Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Riots Erupt, Jack Murphy ATTACKED By Antifa In DC, Riots Continue EVERYWHERE

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00:00:29.000 Last night in Washington DC Philadelphia and New York City Antifa Black Lives Matter go crazy blowing up things 0.89

00:00:36.000 Burning down buildings smashing windows looting stores rioting again all over again now just a few days away from the

00:00:44.000 election Twice.

00:00:45.000 What triggered it? Who knows?

00:00:46.000 Why couldn't they wait?

00:00:48.000 Why couldn't they wait?

00:00:49.000 What's going on?

00:00:50.000 Why is the police department in Washington, D.C.

00:00:53.000 under attack right now?

00:00:54.000 Why are people looting?

00:00:55.000 Why are people driving their cars through police lines?

00:00:58.000 Twice.

00:00:59.000 Twice.

00:01:00.000 Why are stores being looted?

00:01:01.000 Why are people wheeling away washers and dryers on dollies out of Walmart? 0.99

00:01:07.000 How many Walmarts do we need to loot until we've reached racial equality? 0.93

00:01:12.000 Tim, Ian, these are the questions that were facing us tonight.

00:01:15.000 Seven.

00:01:16.000 Yeah.

00:01:16.000 Okay.

00:01:17.000 Yeah.

00:01:18.000 I don't know.

00:01:18.000 I think we just need to loot a few more Walmarts, maybe a Best Buy, if those things even exist.

00:01:23.000 Circuit City?

00:01:24.000 Anybody ever heard of Circuit City?

00:01:25.000 Oh yeah!

00:01:26.000 Maybe they should loot a blockbuster and that will like close the loop on this entire thing.

00:01:31.000 There's one left.

00:01:33.000 They did this really cool thing where they made a 90s style living room and you could Airbnb it.

00:01:38.000 And so there was like 90s era snacks and like a TV.

00:01:42.000 It gave me a really good idea for a business where you create uh different era airbnbs like you get like a warehouse or like a multi-unit building and you got a 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s 2000s and 2010 style place and then it's like you spend a night in a place imagine this you go into like the 80s room and the tv is on a a loop a 24-hour playlist of a bunch of different channels you literally like see what's on mtv nice could you go to like the porn channel it's blurry remember that no

00:02:11.000 When you didn't pay for it, it was all green and red.

00:02:14.000 You'd have actual snacks from that era.

00:02:16.000 Like combos.

00:02:18.000 Combos?

00:02:18.000 Combos.

00:02:19.000 Combos are from the 90s.

00:02:20.000 I have five boxes of combos now.

00:02:23.000 In the pantry downstairs, it looks like a combos outlet store.

00:02:27.000 I thought I was buying 10 bags for the party.

00:02:30.000 I bought 10 cases on accident.

00:02:32.000 When I walked in the door here, that was the first thing.

00:02:34.000 The first thing I had to see was the combos for life.

00:02:37.000 Combo's Castle, baby.

00:02:38.000 This is Combo's Castle.

00:02:39.000 That's what we're calling this place.

00:02:41.000 I hope enough people show up to eat them all.

00:02:42.000 Please.

00:02:43.000 I had half a bag.

00:02:44.000 They're good.

00:02:45.000 Be careful with those. 0.87

00:02:46.000 These guys are nasty.

00:02:47.000 Delicious. 0.96

00:02:48.000 Perfect.

00:02:49.000 High quality food product.

00:02:50.000 Anyway, anyway, anyway.

00:02:53.000 We had Jack just do that opening shout-out because Jack got attacked by Antifa in his own neighborhood.

00:02:59.000 Dude, so I have been doing on the street reporting right in the riots in DC end of May throughout June a little bit in July go downtown watch and observe the looting, the arson, the vandalism, the destruction, the assaults on police officers.

00:03:13.000 Well, let's go through it.

00:03:14.000 We're gonna go through it.

00:03:15.000 Yeah, I'll just do the normal intro plug and then we'll throw it right to you.

00:03:18.000 Alright.

00:03:19.000 So, subscribe, the notification bell, we're live.

00:03:21.000 Hit the like button, all that stuff.

00:03:23.000 Jack's doing the intro because Jack's the one who got to face that anti-fascist.

00:03:27.000 And I will mention too, we had anti-fascist socialist Vosh just here the other day sitting in that very chair.

00:03:34.000 I can tell.

00:03:35.000 And you notice there was a water bottle there.

00:03:37.000 Somebody left a pallet of water bottles here for us.

00:03:40.000 And you were like, you gave a water bottle to anti-fascists?

00:03:42.000 That's like their source of power.

00:03:44.000 Did you get hit in the head?

00:03:45.000 No, Vosh was alright.

00:03:47.000 We did not.

00:03:48.000 We had a long, it was like four hours.

00:03:50.000 That's what I heard.

00:03:50.000 But anyway.

00:03:51.000 So, uh, we threw it to you to open because riots are breaking out right now.

00:03:55.000 Right now.

00:03:56.000 That's crazy.

00:03:57.000 I mean, I, I, I just finished dinner and you're, you show up and you're like, and the rights are happening now.

00:04:02.000 I was like, wow, dude.

00:04:03.000 Yeah.

00:04:04.000 Well, that's, that's kind of what happened to me.

00:04:05.000 So let's, let's do this.

00:04:06.000 So it's now the third night of the reignition of, of protests.

00:04:09.000 And it's, and it's, it's, we got, uh, what is it to Washington, DC, New York, and Philadelphia, East coast wave.

00:04:16.000 You live there.

00:04:17.000 Yeah.

00:04:18.000 They surrounded you.

00:04:19.000 They attacked you.

00:04:20.000 Tell me what happened, brother.

00:04:21.000 So just like you were eating dinner tonight, you didn't know the riots were going on.

00:04:24.000 Same thing happened to me last night.

00:04:25.000 I'm just hanging out with my family.

00:04:27.000 We're having dinner.

00:04:28.000 I hear a helicopter overhead hanging really low.

00:04:31.000 I go on Twitter.

00:04:32.000 I check it out.

00:04:32.000 Turns out that a Black Lives Matter protest riot had tried to lay siege to the fourth district police department in Washington, DC.

00:04:41.000 And so I'm eating dinner.

00:04:42.000 I'm hearing the helicopters.

00:04:43.000 I'm with my kids.

00:04:44.000 I read Twitter real quick.

00:04:45.000 I'm like, oh my God, they're doing it again.

00:04:47.000 And this time walking distance from my neighborhood, walking distance from my house.

00:04:51.000 So I jump out.

00:04:52.000 I'm like, guys, I'm out.

00:04:53.000 I got to go.

00:04:53.000 Kids are kind of used to this by now.

00:04:55.000 Daddy's got to go to work.

00:04:56.000 So I jump out and I run up to Georgia Avenue, where the 4th District Police Department was.

00:05:01.000 And I get there and there's already hundreds of riot cops out.

00:05:04.000 I go up to the police station and they've already had bashed in numbers of windows on the first floor and the second floor.

00:05:09.000 Apparently, they attempted to sort of run in and take over the police, the police department there.

00:05:15.000 And things were kind of chilling out a little bit and I was walking around and sort of filming and I took a couple good pictures and I was done filming.

00:05:22.000 I was just standing there and these like four Antifa kids all in their black gear with their matching pink gas masks that they all ordered off the Antifa wish list that they have on Amazon.

00:05:37.000 And they were like a little team.

00:05:39.000 They come up to me and this guy's like, this is our space.

00:05:41.000 You have to leave.

00:05:42.000 What?

00:05:43.000 This is our space.

00:05:44.000 You have to leave.

00:05:45.000 And funny enough, I was actually just getting ready to go, but then when an Antifa guy comes up to me and tells me it's time to leave, what am I going to say?

00:05:52.000 So all of a sudden I'm staying.

00:05:53.000 I'm like, no, there's no way I'm going anywhere.

00:05:55.000 And so they tried to push me around for a little bit and bully me out of there.

00:05:58.000 Two, three, four, five of them come up and I'm not going anywhere.

00:06:01.000 And it kind of diffuses for a second and I'm just hanging out a little bit more.

00:06:05.000 And then they come up to me again and then there's like a group of four and then five and then six and then ten and then there's like 20 of them and now I'm surrounded by Antifa.

00:06:13.000 I'm surrounded by sort of Black Lives Matter type people just sort of random street thugs are there and they circle and they circle me and they're screaming at me. 0.98

00:06:22.000 They're saying, you know, white people don't belong in this city. 0.99

00:06:25.000 Get out of here. 0.98

00:06:25.000 You're a gentrifier and I tried to engage with them. 0.98

00:06:28.000 I tried to have a conversation.

00:06:29.000 I'm like, man, you got the wrong guy.

00:06:31.000 I spent 10 years helping African-American kids in this city turn around public charter schools, trying to sort of explain, you know, I'm like, Hey, I'm here.

00:06:38.000 And they're like, but what, whose side are you on?

00:06:40.000 Whose side are you on?

00:06:42.000 Whose side are you on, man?

00:06:43.000 And in my head, I'm thinking, okay, got to say nothing.

00:06:47.000 If I say I'm on their side, just to diffuse, it's going to like, start to rewire my own brain.

00:06:51.000 This is a little reason why they do struggle sessions.

00:06:53.000 So I'm like, forget it.

00:06:54.000 I don't say anything more and more people come up and I'm starting to get nervous at this point and there's probably 20 or so people I walk slowly towards the police line as they are pushing me and pushing me and there's probably 20 or 30 people at this point there's individual young black men just staring me in the eyes with these like very angry angry just just intense eyes are just waiting to pounce on me they're getting up in my face that I pull out my camera I start to record then the umbrellas come out Right? 0.94

00:07:23.000 So there's like umbrellas all around me, all in my face.

00:07:25.000 You can see it on my video.

00:07:26.000 If you go to Jack Murphy live on Twitter, you can see the periscope that I did last night.

00:07:32.000 And you can hear the vile things that they're saying to me. 0.98

00:07:34.000 White people get out of here. 1.00

00:07:35.000 You don't belong here. 1.00

00:07:36.000 All kinds of nasty stuff. 0.59

00:07:38.000 They're screaming at me to stop recording.

00:07:39.000 This is our space.

00:07:40.000 Get out of here.

00:07:42.000 And then like another four or five guys show up that look like they were ready to go.

00:07:45.000 Okay.

00:07:46.000 And that's when I started to think, oh man, I'm actually, I'm actually in a little bit of trouble here.

00:07:51.000 And right as the energy is peaking, right as it looked like I was probably about ready to get like literally jumped by 30 guys, I feel somebody grabbed me from behind.

00:08:00.000 They grabbed my belt and they just yanked me back like 20 feet.

00:08:05.000 Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:08:06.000 The cops.

00:08:06.000 How tall are you?

00:08:07.000 I'm 6'4", 250.

00:08:08.000 Exactly.

00:08:09.000 Okay.

00:08:09.000 So they came up behind me, SWAT team, you know, assault rifle, the whole thing.

00:08:15.000 Sorry guys, not an assault rifle.

00:08:16.000 It's a rifle that looks like...

00:08:18.000 So they grabbed me by the belt and they yanked me through and all of a sudden, boom, I'm back behind the police line.

00:08:23.000 I'm like, Oh God, I got my hands, my hands up.

00:08:26.000 I'm like, I'm complying.

00:08:27.000 I'm complying.

00:08:28.000 And they were like, you got any weapons on you?

00:08:30.000 No.

00:08:30.000 And then they walked me back and they're like, dude, we just saved you.

00:08:33.000 Like they said that they said that they're like, yeah, it was about you were about ready to get just jumped right then.

00:08:38.000 And they saved me after I was protesting their protest.

00:08:41.000 I'm like, I'm not going anywhere.

00:08:42.000 I'm holding my ground.

00:08:44.000 They kept saying, this is our city.

00:08:45.000 I'm like, dude, I have lived here for 30 years.

00:08:47.000 I live walking distance from here.

00:08:49.000 My kids go to school in the city and you're going to tell me it's not my town.

00:08:52.000 And that's what this whole thing is, right?

00:08:54.000 It's like, this is our space.

00:08:55.000 This is our space.

00:08:56.000 They don't live in our space.

00:08:57.000 They don't live there.

00:08:58.000 These little Antifa guys, I can see their eyes.

00:09:00.000 And it's so weird when everybody has masks on.

00:09:03.000 Cause you really can see their eyes and you can see the intensity in their eyes and you can see the anger and the seething rage.

00:09:08.000 And the funny thing that I noticed is that when you refuse to bow to their intimidation, it just makes them so mad.

00:09:15.000 That's what they want.

00:09:16.000 What they're looking for is they want to know.

00:09:20.000 That you know, they've caused you pain.

00:09:23.000 Yep.

00:09:23.000 And if you don't experience pain, or acknowledge it, because it's not just about being hurt.

00:09:29.000 It's about them knowing, you know, they hurt you.

00:09:32.000 They want it.

00:09:32.000 They want you to be like, that was me.

00:09:34.000 I did that.

00:09:35.000 Yep.

00:09:35.000 They wanted to bully me out of my own town out of my own city.

00:09:38.000 So what you said that it rewires your own brain to acknowledge that you're on there.

00:09:42.000 That's so It's true.

00:09:44.000 It's true.

00:09:45.000 It's the whole point of the struggle sessions is to get you to say things that you don't believe in.

00:09:48.000 And then you start believing it.

00:09:49.000 What is a struggle session?

00:09:50.000 I've never heard of a struggle session.

00:09:51.000 I believe it comes from communist China where they went into the countryside and around and they just gathered up everybody who wasn't, you know, with the communist effort and they made them, you know, swear fealty and like do all these things.

00:10:03.000 I'm not an expert on it.

00:10:04.000 But I know that the intention there is to rewire your brain and break down your defenses by getting you to repeat things that A, you know are not true, and then B, that are in line with the authoritarian or totalitarian state that's trying to control you.

00:10:17.000 And when I refused to do it, dude, they flipped.

00:10:20.000 They thought that they were going to bully me.

00:10:22.000 Now, I had run into a guy that I knew from Twitter there.

00:10:25.000 And he is much smaller than me and we got separated and he did get assaulted.

00:10:29.000 He got head butted and punched and chased out and he ran.

00:10:32.000 He ran the other way.

00:10:33.000 Well, I drifted towards the police and I kind of knew the whole time the cops are there, right?

00:10:38.000 So like I'm surrounded by all these people and they're screaming at me and cussing at me and threatening me.

00:10:42.000 I'm like, the police are right there.

00:10:43.000 If they assault me, the cops will be on this and it'll be just fine.

00:10:46.000 And they just kept pushing and pushing and pushing.

00:10:48.000 But the cops surprised me when they grabbed me and just yanked me through.

00:10:51.000 And all of a sudden, I'm on the other side of the police line.

00:10:54.000 And that's when they all thought over there, like, oh, he's a cop.

00:10:57.000 He's a cop.

00:10:58.000 Yeah.

00:10:59.000 He's like, I mean, I love my law enforcement officers and friends and family and all that.

00:11:03.000 But like, I grew up not being a big fan of police.

00:11:06.000 When someone who is over six feet tall and, what, you said 250?

00:11:10.000 Yep.

00:11:11.000 They automatically assume you must be a cop no matter what.

00:11:13.000 Right.

00:11:14.000 That's the thing.

00:11:15.000 So there's also, I guess people are saying there's audio issues.

00:11:17.000 I don't know.

00:11:18.000 I'm trying to adjust, guys.

00:11:19.000 Literally no idea how it just like instantly the other day just the audio just went dropped.

00:11:23.000 And we're like, I have no idea what it is.

00:11:26.000 I think, yeah, the cat like jiggled a cord or something.

00:11:29.000 There was a really funny moment where the camera started shaking like crazy and we were like, whoa, what's happening?

00:11:33.000 And she was like scratching herself and hitting the camera. 0.62

00:11:36.000 Anyway, so there have been a bunch of instances, there were viral videos of three guys who were wearing combat boots, or some kind of work boots, and then they got pointed out, this was a big protest that happened in Toronto, and they were like, those guys are cops, this is proof.

00:11:51.000 So, there's tons of instances where regular-looking guys who might wear... I mean, let me start for a second.

00:11:58.000 You know how in D.C.

00:11:59.000 everybody wears the same kind of North Face stuff?

00:12:01.000 It's like, anybody who knows D.C.

00:12:03.000 knows what I'm talking about.

00:12:05.000 You go to these... wherever you go, everyone's wearing North Face jackets and khakis and it's like the same outfit or the same style.

00:12:11.000 They'll see someone like that and think, they clearly aren't one of us.

00:12:15.000 You're a cop.

00:12:16.000 You're a cop.

00:12:16.000 You don't fit in.

00:12:17.000 And it's like a regular dude, like eating, you know, nachos at a Mexican restaurant and they start screaming, you're a cop.

00:12:22.000 Like you, you were at a restaurant.

00:12:24.000 Is that what you're doing?

00:12:24.000 No, I was at home.

00:12:25.000 This is how close it was to me is that I heard the blue, the copper, the cop chopper.

00:12:31.000 The cop-chopter?

00:12:32.000 Cop-chopter.

00:12:33.000 Can we edit that out somehow?

00:12:35.000 No, I love it.

00:12:36.000 The cop-chopter.

00:12:37.000 We're keeping it.

00:12:37.000 The cop-chopter.

00:12:38.000 The police helicopter hovering basically over my house.

00:12:42.000 And when I saw that there was this happening right in my neighborhood, I just jumped up.

00:12:45.000 I literally left my dinner on the table and I had to go.

00:12:48.000 I gotta bring it back to the intro.

00:12:49.000 So why are they out there?

00:12:52.000 In Washington, D.C.

00:12:53.000 in particular, it was because of this one incident where a black kid was on a moped without a helmet.

00:12:59.000 The cops saw him, flipped on the lights, because it's illegal.

00:13:03.000 And instead of talking to the cops, he sped off on the moped.

00:13:06.000 So now he's like a fugitive running away from the cops.

00:13:08.000 So the cops chased him.

00:13:09.000 And as they're chasing him, he gets hit by another car.

00:13:12.000 Whoa.

00:13:13.000 Third car.

00:13:13.000 And he ends up dying.

00:13:14.000 Right.

00:13:15.000 When?

00:13:15.000 They blame the cops for that?

00:13:16.000 This is like two or three nights ago.

00:13:17.000 Yeah.

00:13:18.000 They blame the cops for that. 0.95

00:13:19.000 And it's a tragedy. 0.60

00:13:21.000 It sucks when somebody gets killed, obviously.

00:13:23.000 But if the guy just would have stood there, he would have been fine.

00:13:26.000 It's not the police fault.

00:13:27.000 So instead they use this.

00:13:28.000 They don't.

00:13:29.000 It doesn't matter what the reason is.

00:13:30.000 They're always just looking for any reason, any reason to rile people up.

00:13:35.000 And so when I was there, I noticed it was just sort of like regular townsfolk, let's

00:13:39.000 And then the Black Lives Matter banner showed up.

00:13:42.000 And then the Antifa crew showed up.

00:13:44.000 And then you could just tell like that the medics were there.

00:13:47.000 And then all of a sudden you could tell that they had like rallied the troops to come all the way uptown.

00:13:52.000 This is not downtown.

00:13:53.000 This is not by the main protest zones, not by the White House.

00:13:56.000 This is not where any really of this has been going on, which is why I was so incensed.

00:14:01.000 I had actually decided to leave the street reporting up to fearless people like Shelby Talcott and Elijah Schaefer.

00:14:09.000 DC Riot, Riot Squad.

00:14:11.000 Yeah.

00:14:11.000 They do a tremendous job, you know, and they're out there, but, you know, they have a little bit of a different demo than I do.

00:14:16.000 I've got three kids and a family and the whole thing.

00:14:19.000 And it's like, I have to stop putting myself in danger like that.

00:14:22.000 But this was in my neighborhood.

00:14:24.000 Elijah Schafer got punched in the face.

00:14:26.000 Oh, he got bloodied up.

00:14:27.000 Yeah, man.

00:14:28.000 We had Elijah on the show, what was a month ago?

00:14:30.000 A few weeks ago.

00:14:31.000 Yeah.

00:14:31.000 A few weeks ago?

00:14:32.000 No, more than that.

00:14:32.000 More than that.

00:14:33.000 It was like a month ago.

00:14:33.000 Two at least.

00:14:34.000 So he's another one of these dudes who goes out there and does his reporting.

00:14:37.000 I saw a video where he was like, his face was swollen and he was bleeding and he was still reporting.

00:14:41.000 I'm like, geez, dude, go to the hospital, get some stitches.

00:14:43.000 Yeah, he's hardcore.

00:14:44.000 He's hardcore.

00:14:44.000 I think he's having fun doing that.

00:14:47.000 I'd have never met him, but like the vibe I get when he posts the pictures and the tweets about him getting beat up or punched or whatever.

00:14:54.000 I get the sense that it doesn't bother me much.

00:14:57.000 There's this thing I heard about firefighters who wish for fires.

00:15:01.000 Wow.

00:15:02.000 It's true though because, so my dad was a firefighter and he explained to me that some people get this thing where they get depressed when they're not doing something.

00:15:10.000 Like their job is to help people and save lives.

00:15:13.000 And then they go weeks with like no fire or no real calls and they feel useless.

00:15:17.000 So they start wishing for fires.

00:15:19.000 Like inside, in their own minds.

00:15:21.000 Like, I want that fire, I want to run in.

00:15:22.000 And that's a scary thought, because they're like, they want the destruction, but because they're... It reminds me of, like, the dogs on 9-11.

00:15:30.000 Do you know about the dogs on 9-11?

00:15:32.000 No.

00:15:32.000 They would have to bury themselves, and then have the dogs find them, because the dogs were getting demoralized by not finding the bodies.

00:15:39.000 Oh, wow.

00:15:40.000 So they would have to pretend to do it, to give the dog, like... Because it's a feeling everybody gets when they feel like they're not doing anything, not helping, not being useful.

00:15:46.000 Yeah, so I can relate to this story.

00:15:49.000 One of the reasons why I stopped going out on the street as much is because I found myself hoping that something terrible would happen.

00:15:58.000 And that's a bad feeling.

00:15:59.000 I didn't like it.

00:16:00.000 I don't want to hope that ever.

00:16:02.000 So I would go out and if nothing bad happened I would say publicly, oh this is great, thank God nothing bad happened.

00:16:08.000 But in my mind, I'm like, hey, I'm coming out here to work.

00:16:11.000 Like, where is it?

00:16:11.000 You know?

00:16:12.000 And I didn't like that feeling at all.

00:16:14.000 Journalism in general is a tough job because if bad stuff doesn't happen, what's the news?

00:16:18.000 Like, good news doesn't really fly.

00:16:21.000 Dude, have you guys seen Bruce Almighty?

00:16:24.000 No.

00:16:24.000 You've not seen it?

00:16:25.000 What, with the movie?

00:16:27.000 The movie, Bruce Almighty, where Jim Carrey is a local news reporter and they're like, go do the cookie story, the world's biggest cookie.

00:16:34.000 And he's like, come on, man.

00:16:36.000 And he really wants to be an anchor.

00:16:38.000 And so the movie is basically, he's complaining about life.

00:16:42.000 He blames God for everything.

00:16:43.000 So God, Morgan Freeman, Grants him the powers of God and says, you be God.

00:16:49.000 And then what does he do?

00:16:50.000 He starts making like meteors crash into the earth.

00:16:53.000 They find Jimmy Hoffa's grave or whatever.

00:16:55.000 He's making all this crazy sensational news that he's right there for.

00:16:59.000 He falsely frames his rival news team for having a bunch of pot in their car and they get arrested by the feds.

00:17:03.000 Like totally the Russians. 1.00

00:17:04.000 Super brutal, but like, I think that that's it.

00:17:08.000 I know it's a fictional movie, but it's a play on an idea we know.

00:17:12.000 They call him Mr. Exclusive because he was finding all of those big breaking news stories of shocking explosions and drug busts.

00:17:20.000 So yeah, if it bleeds, it leads.

00:17:23.000 Bad news doesn't sell.

00:17:24.000 The movie Nightcrawler was like that.

00:17:25.000 Dude, that movie's so good.

00:17:27.000 Jake Gyllenhaal.

00:17:28.000 Have you seen Nightcrawler?

00:17:29.000 I haven't.

00:17:31.000 I have some pop culture deficiencies, I'll admit.

00:17:33.000 But Nightcrawler is a movie for anybody who agrees with Trump on fake news.

00:17:39.000 If you've seen Trump say the fake news and you're like, that's right, go watch Nightcrawler.

00:17:43.000 And I can't believe there's not more lefties who are like, that movie is awful! 0.99

00:17:48.000 Making journalists look like sociopaths!

00:17:51.000 Because the dude in the movie, it's so good, dude.

00:17:54.000 Long story short, I don't want to ruin the movie, it's about a sociopath who figures out he can make money selling if it bleeds it leads.

00:18:01.000 So, take that, basically all of them.

00:18:05.000 It's such a good movie, man.

00:18:06.000 Because it's not like it's a murder or anything.

00:18:08.000 Kind of.

00:18:09.000 You gotta see the movie.

00:18:10.000 I don't want to spoil it for people, but he's legit trying to, like, I don't want to ruin the movie.

00:18:16.000 Don't ruin it.

00:18:17.000 But journalists who want to make the story happen, essentially, you know, they know.

00:18:22.000 Well, I mean, you have every incentive in the world to make that happen.

00:18:25.000 Fame, power, money, reputation, career, stability.

00:18:30.000 I mean, if that's how you make your money, then of course you're going to want to see that happen.

00:18:33.000 Fortunately, the cops and the firemen don't get paid for crime and fires necessarily.

00:18:38.000 Cops do have a quota. 0.98

00:18:39.000 Quotas are very weird.

00:18:41.000 Like you've got to fine the guys that break the law or you're going to get in trouble with your department.

00:18:44.000 So they're out there.

00:18:45.000 Making it happen.

00:18:46.000 They claim there's no quotas, right?

00:18:48.000 They say over and over again, there's no quotas.

00:18:49.000 I think some departments have them and some don't.

00:18:51.000 I don't know.

00:18:51.000 But the stats have to be good.

00:18:53.000 Right, right, right.

00:18:53.000 And in Chicago, everybody always knew, be careful driving at the end of the month.

00:18:57.000 Yep.

00:18:58.000 That's what everyone would always say.

00:19:00.000 So it's kind of like, is it one of those myths or whatever?

00:19:02.000 But, you know, we are kind of getting off.

00:19:04.000 We were talking about Antifun.

00:19:05.000 I really want to focus on this because five days to an election.

00:19:08.000 Yes.

00:19:08.000 Can't believe it.

00:19:09.000 I have to wonder if, like, this next part is a joke, okay?

00:19:14.000 Because I know people are going to freak out that a bunch of Trump supporters dressed up like Antifa, like, this is how you get Trump elected in PA.

00:19:21.000 I'm joking, okay?

00:19:23.000 The point is, though, Donald Trump is going rally, rally, rally in Pennsylvania.

00:19:28.000 Vote for me! 0.95

00:19:29.000 And he's going, suburban women! 1.00

00:19:31.000 Love me!

00:19:32.000 You have to love me!

00:19:33.000 I've done so much for you!

00:19:35.000 It's actually funny.

00:19:36.000 They criticize him for it, but he's half-joking.

00:19:39.000 He really does need their vote, but he's just hamming it up.

00:19:43.000 There's only so much rallies can do.

00:19:46.000 You've got western Pennsylvania.

00:19:49.000 Fracking country.

00:19:50.000 Joe Biden sealed the deal on that when he was like, yeah, he's like, we're going to transition out of oil.

00:19:55.000 Yes.

00:19:56.000 Yes.

00:19:56.000 And then the moderator's like, why would you do that?

00:19:58.000 Like almost like she was facepalming that he said it, not that he would actually want to do it.

00:20:02.000 Why would you say that?

00:20:03.000 Exactly.

00:20:03.000 That's what it sounded like to me.

00:20:05.000 But how do you get Eastern Pennsylvania?

00:20:08.000 Riots erupt in Philadelphia three nights in a row.

00:20:11.000 People are looting, you know, Five Below, Walmart.

00:20:14.000 Like, you see the video where the cars are just, like, crashing into each other and, like, TVs are flying through the air?

00:20:18.000 It's like, so they're in the parking lot of the Walmart and people are just running away with stuff and then, like, someone's got, like, a TV in the middle of the road, a car hits it, it just flips over the car and they're, like, crashing into each other.

00:20:27.000 It was nuts!

00:20:28.000 Yeah, and even a guy, like, loaded up his truck full of looted material and then he got robbed.

00:20:34.000 They're looting the looters!

00:20:37.000 And apparently they were shooting each other too and fighting and fighting over it.

00:20:41.000 Yeah.

00:20:42.000 I think Shelby and Elijah were there with shots fired.

00:20:46.000 And so, you know, it's just criminals doing criminal stuff.

00:20:48.000 Yo, in D.C., is it federal?

00:20:50.000 So it's federal, right?

00:20:51.000 Are they sending out the feds to take care of that? 0.85

00:20:53.000 No.

00:20:53.000 Dude, if you get arre- so, uh, activist organizations warn protesters.

00:20:57.000 You get arrested protesting in D.C., those are federal charges.

00:21:00.000 They're very, very hard to beat, and the penalties are severe.

00:21:04.000 What is the name of that legal fund that's always bailing out those Antifa guys?

00:21:14.000 They were down on the scene last night too, and I think that's what happened.

00:21:18.000 They saw me streaming the Antifa guys, because I was streaming the cops and stuff, but then I saw the Legal Aid National Lawyers Guild.

00:21:25.000 National Lawyers Guild.

00:21:26.000 Progressive organization.

00:21:26.000 They were on the ground there, and that's part of the support ecosystem that enables people to go to jail and have lawyers and bail, and that way they can get arrested with impunity.

00:21:36.000 You know, I'll tell you what, man.

00:21:38.000 During Occupy, things were different, and there's a weird authoritarian switch that occurred.

00:21:43.000 I remember I was on, you know, I can't remember what street it was, maybe like 12th or something.

00:21:47.000 It was in New York, it was like the Lower East Side, and there was a National Lawyers Guild lawyer who had just witnessed an arrest.

00:21:54.000 We were standing on the sidewalk, and he starts- I'm standing here on the corner, and he starts walking through the crosswalk, not jaywalking.

00:22:01.000 And he's on his phone, and he's looking at cops as they're making an arrest, and he starts reporting to his colleagues, and a bunch of cops run up and grab him and throw him against a car.

00:22:08.000 His phone goes flying, and I'm filming.

00:22:10.000 I'm like, whoa, what the- And then he's like, what are you doing?

00:22:13.000 I'm a lawyer!

00:22:14.000 And they were like, shut up. 0.98

00:22:15.000 They cuff him, they arrest him.

00:22:17.000 And then I actually had a phone call like, what happened?

00:22:19.000 Why did they arrest him?

00:22:20.000 Like he literally wasn't doing anything, man.

00:22:22.000 It was a lawyer on the...

00:22:24.000 So I see things like that.

00:22:25.000 I've seen things where the National Lawyers Guild has done good in stopping things like

00:22:29.000 this.

00:22:30.000 But something changed.

00:22:31.000 And I remember when I was in Boston, it was 2018.

00:22:34.000 And there was Antifa and there were right-wing protesters.

00:22:38.000 The Antifa guys had clubs.

00:22:40.000 They were wearing black masks, full blackout gear, with clubs and bats.

00:22:43.000 And there was the National Lawyers Guild standing at their side.

00:22:46.000 And then across from them was a bunch of guys with Pepe signs and shields.

00:22:50.000 And I asked the National Lawyers Guild, I was like, hey, how come you guys are only on one side?

00:22:53.000 And they're like, what do you mean?

00:22:54.000 And I'm like, why aren't you guys observing for those guys?

00:22:57.000 And they were like, I don't understand.

00:22:59.000 And I was like, okay.

00:23:01.000 And then I tweeted about it.

00:23:02.000 And then a bunch of lefties, they were like, Tim Pool's defending the fascists.

00:23:06.000 And I'm like, the National Lawyers Guild said their mission was to observe the police, not counter protests.

00:23:11.000 Right.

00:23:11.000 I thought they were there to make sure that people were peacefully, legally allowed to protest, and that includes the left and the right.

00:23:16.000 No, it wasn't.

00:23:17.000 It was about supporting progressive causes.

00:23:19.000 And now that the conflict isn't about police versus protester, it's like, left and right tribe or whatever, National Lawyers Guild is overtly tribalist and will not help you in defending your rights.

00:23:32.000 They won't, like, was anyone there when you were getting attacked?

00:23:35.000 Any of the NLG guys?

00:23:36.000 No, nobody.

00:23:37.000 Luckily the police were there.

00:23:38.000 Because I'd imagine they're going to be like, oh, we're not going to film this, we don't want to observe this, because then we've got to testify against them.

00:23:43.000 Right.

00:23:44.000 There were a number of people filming and taking pictures.

00:23:46.000 I haven't seen any of them surface just yet.

00:23:47.000 And I would like to see them.

00:23:49.000 I was standing there surrounded by like 30 people.

00:23:51.000 That would probably be a good pick.

00:23:52.000 I'd like to see it.

00:23:53.000 So if you were that guy last night, send it out.

00:23:56.000 Hit me up on Twitter, JackMurphyLive, or on my YouTube channel, JackMurphyLive.

00:24:00.000 Thank you very much.

00:24:00.000 I'll see you guys there as well.

00:24:01.000 Excellent.

00:24:02.000 So you think the riots are going to... So as I was saying about Pennsylvania, I don't know exactly if you can turn a city red.

00:24:11.000 You know, I don't know what would make something like that happen.

00:24:14.000 But I imagine, I don't know if you remember that video where the Christopher Columbus statue was getting attacked, and so all of these like middle-aged and younger dudes, like union guys, came out and surrounded it, and got physical, like shoving antifa, some guys had bats, some guys had guns, and they were like, get out of here!

00:24:29.000 Then the city came and took the statue away anyway.

00:24:31.000 I can only imagine.

00:24:32.000 These are probably union democrat guys in Philadelphia.

00:24:36.000 80% democrat city.

00:24:37.000 Now they're taking your statue down.

00:24:39.000 You tried to defend.

00:24:40.000 Now they're rioting.

00:24:41.000 And it's not just in downtown.

00:24:43.000 I think they call it center city.

00:24:44.000 It's spread around all over the place.

00:24:46.000 And the videos are nuts.

00:24:48.000 I got to imagine there's a certain part of these regular working class union guys who are democrats who are probably going, I've had enough of this man.

00:24:57.000 And I wonder if it's going to be a big push for Trump.

00:25:00.000 I mean, they did make a big part of the nine million Democrats as deplorable voters in 2016.

00:25:05.000 I'm hoping that that trend is going to continue.

00:25:08.000 It's very clear to see that the Republican Party is becoming sort of the party of men and the Democratic Party is becoming the party of women and minorities. 0.53

00:25:18.000 I gotta stop you there, though.

00:25:19.000 There's something really interesting I saw.

00:25:21.000 I was looking at early voting data in, I think it was Michigan.

00:25:27.000 Most of the votes that have come in so far early in absentee lean GOP.

00:25:31.000 The plurality is GOP voters and women.

00:25:34.000 Nice.

00:25:35.000 That was weird to me.

00:25:36.000 I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:25:37.000 The majority of returned ballots and early voting came from women. 0.87

00:25:41.000 And the majority, and it was a plurality, it was women, not a majority. 0.77

00:25:45.000 And then the plurality was Republicans, meaning there's an uptick in Republican women who are voting. 1.00

00:25:50.000 Awesome.

00:25:50.000 And they're helping get that push.

00:25:52.000 So that's... I've always said that it's the party of masculine men and the women who love them.

00:25:56.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:25:59.000 That's that caveat, right?

00:26:01.000 Dude, how weird is it that that's true?

00:26:03.000 So millennial women are like 70% Democrat. 1.00

00:26:06.000 That's Pew Research.

00:26:08.000 68% of millennial women are Democrats.

00:26:10.000 And then among men, it's slightly conservative, but pretty even.

00:26:17.000 Yeah, well, that's by design.

00:26:19.000 So in the late 60s, the Democrats decided to to jettison the white working male from their efforts in terms of recruiting people.

00:26:27.000 And they specifically set out a strategy to court the disaffected.

00:26:32.000 They used words that we wouldn't use today about homosexual people and about minority folks and about just all the other factions.

00:26:39.000 Who is the dude who ran against Nixon in his reelection?

00:26:42.000 McGovern?

00:26:42.000 McGovern.

00:26:43.000 And he got obliterated.

00:26:45.000 He was that guy who wanted to do the coalition of progressives of like white college-educated elites and minorities, and he got annihilated in a 49-state landslide.

00:26:57.000 Is that going to happen?

00:26:58.000 That would be amazing, but I doubt it.

00:27:02.000 I don't really know what's going to happen.

00:27:04.000 In fact, I got to admit, it's getting a little jittery.

00:27:08.000 I mean, either way, everything will be, you know.

00:27:11.000 You said Nixon and McGovern, is that right?

00:27:14.000 He also did a 49 and started Reagan.

00:27:17.000 And I think Reagan was for similar reasons, too.

00:27:19.000 They tried doing a big progressive push and regular people recoiled.

00:27:22.000 That's what Biden's doing.

00:27:23.000 It's so cringy.

00:27:24.000 Well, here's the crazy thing.

00:27:25.000 Mondale.

00:27:26.000 We're looking at early voting data, right?

00:27:28.000 And it's like, right now, nationally, I think it's like four points up Democrat.

00:27:34.000 What if those Democrat vote Republican?

00:27:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:38.000 It's probably wishful thinking to be like, oh, the polls are wrong and the Democrats are actually voting for Republicans.

00:27:43.000 Yeah, no, no, no.

00:27:44.000 Democrats are probably up.

00:27:45.000 We expected this.

00:27:46.000 And Republicans, surprisingly, are doing really well in Ohio and Wisconsin and Michigan.

00:27:52.000 They're leading in those three states.

00:27:54.000 So I think we're actually, there's a scenario where, could you imagine if we do 269 to 269, Biden and the Electoral College?

00:28:03.000 Oh my gosh.

00:28:04.000 It would go to House Delegations, Trump would win.

00:28:06.000 It's not going to be this hardcore deadlock, but that would be so on point for 2020, you know what I mean?

00:28:12.000 Well, I mean, either way, unless it's a clear landslide in either direction, it's going to feel like 269 to 269 the way it's going to be drawn out.

00:28:19.000 I think we all need to prepare for that, like save your adrenal system, save your dopamine surges, save your stressing out.

00:28:26.000 I really don't think that there's going to be like a decisive factor on the third, although I would greatly welcome it in our favor.

00:28:32.000 Seriously?

00:28:33.000 We're gonna have this big election night party, so... What, what?

00:28:37.000 Yeah, we still got, and what we're gonna do is we're just gonna stream the whole night, and people are gonna come in and out, whoever wants to hop on the stream and be like, yo, what's going on?

00:28:44.000 And I'll probably be downstairs hanging out with people, I'll come up periodically and a bunch of people do that.

00:28:48.000 But I'm wondering, like, at what point do we turn the stream off?

00:28:51.000 Because it's gonna be like 4 a.m.

00:28:52.000 and they're gonna be like, we have no idea what happened.

00:28:53.000 2 a.m.

00:28:54.000 2 a.m.

00:28:55.000 is when they end everything?

00:28:57.000 No, but there's not gonna be results because I think Pennsylvania is not doing their results until the 10th or whatever.

00:29:02.000 Yeah and I found out so I have someone who voted in Colorado and so they got their ballot back and they're like something's wrong with your signature.

00:29:10.000 All right cool I'm glad you're checking out my signature.

00:29:12.000 You can vote again on the 12th like you can just go in until the 12th remember?

00:29:16.000 You can go in on the 12th?

00:29:18.000 So you can go on the 12th and they'll set your signature correct as late as the 12th of November and I was like there's no way this is gonna be done by November.

00:29:25.000 Well unless unless like They can map out, so a lot of people are saying, and I literally just said it, Pennsylvania is not going to know their results until the 10th or whatever because of late ballots, but they can actually look at registered voters and likely voters, they can model out and be like, there's literally no way

00:29:44.000 Any amount of votes will change the results of this county.

00:29:47.000 They always do that.

00:29:48.000 Yeah, that's what happens every time.

00:29:50.000 Exactly, we see the like, you know, 89, there are some places where it's like 37 precincts reporting landslide because it's a guarantee there's no amount of votes they could get with the remaining precincts to win.

00:30:00.000 So we might actually just see that.

00:30:01.000 We might, on election night, might be, you know, landslide Joe Biden.

00:30:05.000 I would welcome a landslide just to get it over with.

00:30:08.000 I don't want to sit around for two weeks.

00:30:09.000 Not for Biden.

00:30:09.000 So I said Biden instead.

00:30:10.000 That'd be cool.

00:30:11.000 I would welcome a landslide.

00:30:13.000 I would too.

00:30:14.000 Just to get it over with.

00:30:15.000 I don't want to sit around for two weeks.

00:30:16.000 Not for Biden, obviously.

00:30:17.000 Dude, did you...

00:30:18.000 I just want it to end on the third so we can move on.

00:30:21.000 Yeah, it's not gonna end, man.

00:30:23.000 Like, so, the media has become addicted to culture war.

00:30:28.000 Everyone has.

00:30:30.000 And when you have billion-dollar corporations that are like, what do we do when the orange man is gone? 0.82

00:30:37.000 It'll be Kanye.

00:30:38.000 going to start looking for for villains to write about.

00:30:41.000 It'll be Kanye.

00:30:42.000 Maybe, yeah.

00:30:43.000 And Joe Rogan, for sure.

00:30:47.000 And comedians.

00:30:48.000 And what did Robert Wright say?

00:30:49.000 Truth and Reconciliation Commissions?

00:30:50.000 Dude, we gotta have him on the show or something.

00:30:53.000 I mean, well, I'll tell you what, sure.

00:30:55.000 Like I'm willing to have anybody on.

00:30:56.000 Well, not anybody.

00:30:58.000 Someone asked me on Twitter, like, are there limits?

00:31:00.000 And I was like, yeah, like physical safety and people have to be relevant to the conversation.

00:31:06.000 So he is.

00:31:07.000 Sure, I'd have him on.

00:31:09.000 But he's like, truth or reconciliation?

00:31:10.000 I know, it's so weird.

00:31:11.000 Yeah, you know what they're gonna do is they're gonna no-platform, de-platform, and cancel people.

00:31:16.000 So we all end up with no technology, no bank accounts.

00:31:21.000 Like, oh, you know, nobody wants to work with you because you're one of those.

00:31:24.000 I heard a very scary bit of speculation that the reason that they selected Kamala Harris was so that she could be the chief.

00:31:30.000 Kamala.

00:31:31.000 Sorry, what else?

00:31:33.000 Kay Harris.

00:31:35.000 So that she could be the prosecutor in chief of the Truth and Reconciliation effort.

00:31:39.000 Oh, gosh.

00:31:40.000 Which actually makes pretty good sense.

00:31:42.000 I mean, there's one thing she can do, right?

00:31:44.000 So they're gonna, like, rendition people?

00:31:47.000 It's like, you know... That makes me angry.

00:31:49.000 That makes me want to riot.

00:31:50.000 Not much stuff makes me want to riot.

00:31:52.000 You guys have all seen V for Vendetta?

00:31:54.000 Yeah.

00:31:55.000 You know the scene where Creedy comes in and knocks out Stephen Fry and then he, like, drags him away?

00:32:00.000 Like, it would be fun to make, like, a gif where it's, you know, Kamala Harris as Creedy and then, like, Stephen Fry as Alex Jones.

00:32:06.000 It gets blackbagged and, like, Oh, by the way, he was on Rogan.

00:32:08.000 Did you guys see Tim Dillon?

00:32:11.000 I saw that he did it, and the left is going after him like hardcore.

00:32:14.000 Oh, I haven't seen it.

00:32:14.000 I only watched a few minutes.

00:32:15.000 These people don't know why they're mad at Alex Jones.

00:32:17.000 They really have no idea.

00:32:18.000 He's funny.

00:32:18.000 He's a comedian.

00:32:19.000 Sandy Hook!

00:32:21.000 Check this out, though.

00:32:21.000 I thought of something.

00:32:23.000 I was thinking of something really interesting.

00:32:24.000 I did a segment on this.

00:32:24.000 There was recently Jacobin magazine, which I'm sure you guys, it's a socialist magazine.

00:32:29.000 First, I want to say my respects to Jacobin.

00:32:31.000 They've done repeated articles defending free speech, arguing that if they give in to restrictions on fascist speech, the government will go after them next.

00:32:40.000 And I'm like, yes, yes, exactly.

00:32:43.000 And so they called it the Anti-Fascist Hate Speech Boomerang, was an article they wrote, where they basically said, we cannot give in to these demands to censor speech, because they're going to come for us.

00:32:52.000 So I respect that.

00:32:53.000 They did a show.

00:32:55.000 It got censored on Facebook.

00:32:57.000 And one of the hosts of that show was on The Young Turks.

00:33:00.000 So while I'll give my respects to Jacobin for defending free speech, because they understand how important it is for a movement like theirs especially, the host they had from The Young Turks was in favor of censoring Alex Jones.

00:33:10.000 And so I thought about something.

00:33:11.000 I was like, How many decades of content does Alex Jones have?

00:33:16.000 Like three?

00:33:17.000 Three decades.

00:33:18.000 And that means he's probably got, out of those decades of work he's done, how many hours of content?

00:33:25.000 Maybe 10,000.

00:33:27.000 10,000 was my first guess.

00:33:28.000 It's probably a really ridiculously huge number, right?

00:33:31.000 How many videos did he have on YouTube?

00:33:33.000 How many subscribers?

00:33:34.000 Because he said one thing, He's gone forever and every bit of speech he ever said, think about how insane that is.

00:33:42.000 That you could talk for 30 years and then say, and also this, oh there it is, get him!

00:33:49.000 And they delete literally everything you've ever said.

00:33:53.000 Not just the things you're saying now, everything you've ever said.

00:33:57.000 That's crazy.

00:33:58.000 And you know what's really crazy about it?

00:34:00.000 The stuff that Jones was saying, as reprehensible as it was, for sure, was like, what, seven years before they went after him?

00:34:06.000 It was from a long time ago.

00:34:08.000 The Sandy Hook thing?

00:34:09.000 Yeah, it was from a long time ago.

00:34:10.000 Well, you remember the incident involved Oliver Darcy.

00:34:13.000 Oh, of course, yeah.

00:34:14.000 Right, it was about Alex Jones confronting him in the halls of the Capitol building. 0.94

00:34:20.000 And basically being a dickhead and and like cornering him and intimidating him. 0.88

00:34:25.000 And believe me, Oliver Darcy, if you're watching, there's no love lost here. 0.98

00:34:28.000 Right.

00:34:28.000 I met Oliver years ago back at Business Insider when he was there and he was trying.

00:34:33.000 He was writing favorable articles.

00:34:34.000 He was trying to be all chummy with us MAGA crew in D.C.

00:34:37.000 and showing up at all the events, him and Rosie Gray and Andrew Marantz.

00:34:41.000 And they all just turned.

00:34:43.000 You know that Oliver Darcy interviewed me when the alt-right got banned, and I said, slippery slope, we can't just ban people for bad opinions, and he wrote an article about it.

00:34:51.000 And it was like, you know, renowned journalist or whatever warns of the coming censorship.

00:34:56.000 He was a business insider.

00:34:57.000 Then he got hired by CNN, and, you know, rosy-cheeked Oliver Darcy walked in with a smile on his face, like, looking up at the big building and all the floors, and he was like, I finally made it!

00:35:06.000 And that's when Jeff Zucker jumped out of the shadows and latched onto his back and sunk his teeth into his neck, and Oliver went, AHHHHH!

00:35:12.000 Turn into a fake new zombie. 0.84

00:35:13.000 That's exactly right.

00:35:14.000 They turn him in they turned him into the schoolyard snitch Yeah, like he's got to be like the most hated of all of those people from that time and he's really sort of sold himself on that But anyway, that was for Alex Jones.

00:35:26.000 He got banned off of Twitter for what he did outside of Twitter That's so crazy, but it was years before and it's like what if the main issue I see is If you say one wrong thing years ago, and we decide now that was wrong, we eliminate everything you've ever said from the record.

00:35:42.000 Now, I'm working with mines and banning accounts and being in charge of that kind of thing.

00:35:47.000 I was of the ilk that if an account violated the terms, I don't care who the human is using that account, that count is nuked. 0.60

00:35:55.000 I'm not going after the person.

00:35:56.000 If the person makes a new account, it's fine.

00:35:59.000 They violated terms with that account, that account is gone.

00:36:01.000 It's not the person.

00:36:03.000 And that's where cancel culture comes from.

00:36:05.000 The problem I'm seeing, you know, as I think about what happened with Alex Jones, and so anyway, the gist of it was that, you know, one of the Young Turks people on the show was like, I'm glad Alex Jones can't harass people.

00:36:16.000 And I'm like, so you're okay with him having literally every bit of his work removed and annihilated because he did this one wrong thing?

00:36:22.000 And I guess he did it a couple times.

00:36:23.000 I'm not, you know, I think what he did was wrong, for sure.

00:36:26.000 Reprehensible.

00:36:27.000 And you tell him, hey, that thing you did?

00:36:28.000 Don't do it again.

00:36:29.000 Okay?

00:36:30.000 Okay.

00:36:31.000 No, they didn't.

00:36:32.000 I think he remained on Facebook for a while, and then they were just waiting to press the nuke button, give him any excuse, and then they went for it.

00:36:38.000 So it really was not about just that one thing he said.

00:36:41.000 It was a political move.

00:36:42.000 They didn't like this guy, he had too much influence, and he says crazy stuff.

00:36:45.000 So they were like, he's a problem, so get rid of him and find any excuse to do it.

00:36:48.000 The funny thing about it, I watched like maybe the first half hour of the Joe Rogan show with him, and Alex starts to say something that seems all crazy and Joe's like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:36:56.000 Hold on.

00:36:57.000 What you need is a fact checker.

00:36:58.000 Let's fact check this one.

00:36:59.000 Come on, we're going to fact check this one.

00:37:00.000 He needs Lydia.

00:37:01.000 Jamie, Jamie, bring it up.

00:37:02.000 That's right.

00:37:02.000 Bring it up.

00:37:03.000 And Jones was right.

00:37:03.000 And they brought it up and he's reading it and he's like, oh snap.

00:37:06.000 Holy crap, you're right.

00:37:08.000 Do you know what he was saying though? 0.98

00:37:09.000 Yeah, he said that corporations were making payments to sub-level, lower-level staff members in the Trump organization because Trump is uncorruptible.

00:37:18.000 He's not beholden to lobbyists.

00:37:19.000 He's not beholden to corporations.

00:37:21.000 And so that he's saying that corporations were going towards people in his orbit and below him in order to get influence.

00:37:27.000 And the example he's like, he's like, yeah, AT&T paid people, you know, millions of dollars just to get access.

00:37:31.000 And they're like, well, hold on a second.

00:37:33.000 And they checked and they pulled up USA Today, I think is what it was.

00:37:36.000 And this is snap.

00:37:37.000 This is a thing.

00:37:39.000 It's low information individuals with power who don't know what they're talking about and getting mad about it.

00:37:44.000 The other day when we had Vaush on, he mentioned that I got into like conspiracy realm stuff.

00:37:49.000 And he mentioned, you said if Joe Biden gets elected, they're going to come to your house, they're going to change definitions.

00:37:53.000 And I was like, they've done both of those things already.

00:37:56.000 Like, I didn't say, here's my prediction of the future.

00:37:59.000 I said, here's what they've already done.

00:38:01.000 If Joe Biden gets elected, it locks that in.

00:38:03.000 It exacerbates the problem.

00:38:05.000 But his argument was, because it happened, doesn't mean that something's going to trigger it to happen again.

00:38:09.000 He didn't say that.

00:38:09.000 Yeah, that's what he was saying.

00:38:10.000 If a toilet exploded in someone's house, and you say, hey, if that guy gets elected, there's going to be exploding toilets.

00:38:15.000 He said that after I said those things already happened.

00:38:19.000 And then he went, oh, well, just because.

00:38:21.000 His initial argument was, He didn't know people have already gone to several houses.

00:38:27.000 And then he was like, which people?

00:38:27.000 And then I was like, the McCloskeys for one.

00:38:29.000 He's like, oh, OK.

00:38:29.000 So clearly... I want to go more into that, too.

00:38:32.000 How many more people?

00:38:33.000 I really do think one of the biggest issues between left and right is the sources we consume.

00:38:37.000 But it is a fact that the right knows what the left is thinking.

00:38:39.000 The left does not know what the right is thinking.

00:38:41.000 The best example of this is when the hashtag proud boys went viral and it was a bunch of like gay men kissing and they were like, take that proud boys.

00:38:50.000 And then Enrique like, uh, posted Milo and Gavin making out like, what are you talking about?

00:38:55.000 Like, what do you think this is?

00:38:56.000 Somebody once took the graphics for liminal order and they like put, made it in rainbow flag and they were, and they tried to make it out like this was like being, being mean to me.

00:39:05.000 Oh, they made it look like it was the gay flag. 0.96

00:39:08.000 They don't know who you are.

00:39:09.000 You've repeatedly said that the Republican Party accepting gay marriage was what allowed you to be like, OK, I can go in this direction.

00:39:15.000 Yeah.

00:39:16.000 Like socially accepting.

00:39:17.000 Absolutely.

00:39:17.000 And just piggybacking off your idea there that the left does not know what the right is thinking, but the right does know what the left is thinking.

00:39:24.000 I have made a terrible mistake.

00:39:27.000 I have reengaged with my old friends on Facebook in this election season, and it was a big mistake.

00:39:34.000 It's a big mistake.

00:39:35.000 There's no question.

00:39:36.000 And I just had it totally reconfirmed to me when I'm trying to explain to them their thought process, because I know it.

00:39:44.000 I've studied critical race theory.

00:39:45.000 I've studied radical feminism. 1.00

00:39:47.000 I've studied intersectionality.

00:39:48.000 I know how it works.

00:39:49.000 I know there are Kafka traps.

00:39:51.000 I know their intellectual framework, if you can call it that.

00:39:55.000 And I'm explaining it to them and they don't even know.

00:39:57.000 They're just all foot soldiers that have been sort of co-opted by Black Lives Matter, Antifa, etc.

00:40:03.000 And they think they're doing a good thing.

00:40:04.000 They're like, yeah, Black Lives Matter, of course, Black Lives, Black Lives, of course.

00:40:07.000 But they don't understand what the system is that they're in.

00:40:10.000 And it's just I try to engage with them.

00:40:12.000 It's just it's not possible.

00:40:14.000 And I just have this hope, I have this naive notion that in like five years, when maybe everything just completely falls apart and everybody suffers the traumatic experience they need in order to rethink their worldview, that one of them, at least, is just gonna be like, oh, you know, that Jack...

00:40:30.000 He was right.

00:40:31.000 Yeah, they will.

00:40:31.000 No, I don't know about that.

00:40:32.000 They come out.

00:40:33.000 They're never gonna do it.

00:40:35.000 Never, never, never.

00:40:36.000 The interesting thing we were talking about earlier when you mentioned rewiring in your brain is that people do trainings where they tell you to tell yourself things to do that.

00:40:45.000 And so you think about these people who are watching TV and they say Black Lives Matter everywhere.

00:40:50.000 It becomes, they have no idea what it is, but they just adhere to it.

00:40:53.000 And when you challenge it, you threaten their worldview.

00:40:56.000 So I think a lot of the reason we see Antifa getting crazy and foaming at the mouth and like, well, Black Lives Matter, because they are righteous and just.

00:41:04.000 They don't know why, but they've said it over and over and over again, and it's in their being.

00:41:09.000 And so when you are opposition, when you are the other, you are the evil villain destroying the world.

00:41:14.000 And they have no idea why.

00:41:15.000 You ask them, they couldn't tell you.

00:41:17.000 I've tried.

00:41:18.000 I feel like there's three strata of the way that people interact or interface with that movement.

00:41:26.000 One is like the ideological one where it's like, why is Black Lives Matter?

00:41:30.000 Why does it exist?

00:41:31.000 And this is kind of what Vash was kind of hinting at that last night.

00:41:34.000 It's a class issue thing that's caused this thing to erupt.

00:41:37.000 Then there's the people that are in it and using it as a business and profiting from it in a lot of ways.

00:41:43.000 And then there's the foot soldiers who are like, yeah, black lives are great, so I follow it.

00:41:47.000 They don't know anything about it.

00:41:49.000 And that's most people.

00:41:51.000 Like, I have friends and family that are posting things like, it is not enough to be not racist, you must be actively anti-racist.

00:41:59.000 And I was like, what does that mean?

00:42:00.000 And they can't give me an answer.

00:42:02.000 I once did this really thoughtful post about the problems of leftist identitarianism and critical race theory, and tried explaining to them using their own words and language, and they just said, you know, F off, basically.

00:42:12.000 Like, I'm sorry, we're in the tribe, the tribe is good, you say bad, you bad.

00:42:18.000 I have pity.

00:42:19.000 I have pity for them because they do believe that they're possessed in like a spiritual demon way.

00:42:24.000 Maybe.

00:42:24.000 But they're possessed by an idea.

00:42:26.000 I think it was Jordan Peterson that said that people don't have ideas.

00:42:29.000 Ideas have people.

00:42:30.000 Yes.

00:42:30.000 And these people, these ideas got these people.

00:42:33.000 Right.

00:42:33.000 And and it's really just it makes me sad when I can see people that I know are otherwise decent, good humans that are just acting in a way that I know if they really understood that they would change their mind because they are good, decent people.

00:42:48.000 And this is sort of the mission.

00:42:49.000 And I see a path to redemption for them, but they don't see a path to redemption for me.

00:42:55.000 And just to finish up on the suffering sessions or struggle sessions, copter chapters, you know, think about it in reverse.

00:43:07.000 You visualize success.

00:43:09.000 You tell yourself success.

00:43:11.000 You say it over and over again.

00:43:12.000 I'm going to do this.

00:43:13.000 I'm going to be great at that.

00:43:14.000 I am this.

00:43:15.000 I am this thing I want to become.

00:43:16.000 Because you can rewire your brain using your self-talk and the things you say.

00:43:20.000 So you can do it in the other direction.

00:43:23.000 They say, raise the fist.

00:43:24.000 That's the thing that stood out to me is the guy's intensity.

00:43:28.000 Nose up in here, coughing their corona all over me.

00:43:31.000 Whose side are you on?

00:43:33.000 Say it!

00:43:34.000 Say it!

00:43:36.000 And when I wouldn't, it's just like, oh, they just explode inside their heads.

00:43:40.000 It's awful for them.

00:43:42.000 Think about this.

00:43:43.000 You got a nice beanie there, good sir.

00:43:45.000 There's a symbol on that beanie.

00:43:46.000 What is that symbol?

00:43:47.000 That symbol is the logo for the Liminal Order, my all-men's organization, national, 300 members.

00:43:52.000 You've got a national organization.

00:43:54.000 And I take a lot of people often want to join and you get like, you know, you put the word out and then people hit you up.

00:43:59.000 Three thousand people on the waiting list.

00:44:01.000 Imagine if you had mainstream dominant culture promoting the ideology for you and you needed only walk up and say, you think Black Lives Matter, right?

00:44:10.000 OK, well, join my organization.

00:44:12.000 Slick.

00:44:13.000 Yeah.

00:44:14.000 So imagine.

00:44:16.000 You, all of us as critical thinkers, and the people watching, who would challenge what we're told, and be like, let me check on that first.

00:44:25.000 And that's a big thing about the internet, is a lot of people who consume news are actively looking for it, as opposed to mainstream media, which is they're sitting there absorbing it.

00:44:32.000 So you're more likely to find people who know more about specific things, they're seeking it out.

00:44:37.000 Now, imagine you've got half the people who are just absorbing information, have no idea, never challenged.

00:44:42.000 It's true.

00:44:43.000 It was on the TV.

00:44:44.000 If you want to use them for your advantage and your power, well, if you go up to them and say, Black Lives Matter is, you know, out of control, identitarianism, and while I can understand the core complaints and I can agree police brutality is bad and we respect these lives, the movement has its problems.

00:45:01.000 Now, join me. 0.98

00:45:02.000 They're going to be like, screw you. 1.00

00:45:04.000 What are you, racist? 1.00

00:45:05.000 If you go up to them and say, You want to join a Black Lives Matter group, right? 0.99

00:45:09.000 You're not racist, are you?

00:45:10.000 Yeah, you're right, you're right, yes.

00:45:12.000 Because dominant culture told them to.

00:45:13.000 You're not racist, are you?

00:45:14.000 You're not racist, are you?

00:45:14.000 Yep.

00:45:16.000 The issue is, you've got this person, right?

00:45:19.000 And they see you walk up to them and you say, give me your money and your time and your energy.

00:45:23.000 And they say, why should I do that?

00:45:25.000 And then you say, look around you.

00:45:27.000 You're not a racist, are you?

00:45:28.000 And they see signs everywhere, Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter.

00:45:30.000 And they're like, I don't want to be another, I don't want to be another here.

00:45:33.000 Whatever you want from me, please, just don't ostracize me. 0.80

00:45:37.000 So, I think a big component of a lot of whatever, like, this moderate space, intellectual space, whatever you want to call it, or a bunch of just, I don't know, rebellious morons, if that's apt, I think it's just an issue of people who are self-sufficient to a certain degree, not too concerned about being ostracized.

00:45:56.000 I would rather live on my feet than die on my knees, versus people who would rather live on their knees than die. 0.64

00:46:02.000 Yeah.

00:46:03.000 I'm comfortable being the other.

00:46:06.000 That's how it's always been my life.

00:46:07.000 I've always been contrarian, counterculture.

00:46:09.000 That's just where I feel more comfortable.

00:46:11.000 But on this issue of passive versus intentional learning or understanding, we in the liminal order have come up with a name.

00:46:20.000 We didn't determine this name, but we've determined that it's an essential tool in this world.

00:46:23.000 It's called sensemaking.

00:46:25.000 And sensemaking is intentional understanding.

00:46:28.000 And part of intentional understanding is a desire to want to actually make sense of the world.

00:46:34.000 And B, it's also an internal process where you have to understand your emotional triggers, understand what states you are in that lead to emotional triggers and irrational behavior.

00:46:44.000 And it's a process by which you learn how to control your emotions, your emotional triggers, your physical integrity, in order to increase your ability to discern between right and wrong, good and bad, so that you can be an intentional understander and do this art of sense-making.

00:47:01.000 So if you want to be an independent, sovereign person in an information war space, which is where we are, and the information battlefield is deliberately polluted at all times, If you want to maintain your sense of personal sovereignty, you have to develop this skill of sensemaking.

00:47:18.000 And that's one of the things we do in the Liminal Order because we think it's vital. 0.98

00:47:20.000 It's like a life skill at this point.

00:47:22.000 Well, we get, on the other side, willful ignorance, which is kind of like the other end of the spectrum of that.

00:47:27.000 People who just choose to be swimming in bliss.

00:47:31.000 Ignorance is bliss, man.

00:47:33.000 I mean, there is some truth to that.

00:47:35.000 Dude, it must feel good to be morally righteous and wield righteous indignation, watching down a street with a bunch of people telling you and patting you on the back how right you are and how smart you are, knowing that all the corporations support you and the government supports you and you are on the right side of history, and that throwing that brick, ooh, just crunching it to that face, that face of the other, the evil.

00:47:59.000 They love it.

00:48:00.000 It feels good to them.

00:48:01.000 They're attacking symbols to make themselves feel good and they get pat on the back for it.

00:48:06.000 So it's funny because they often talk about right-wing love bombs.

00:48:10.000 Have you guys heard about what right-wing love bombs are?

00:48:13.000 I have not.

00:48:14.000 The idea is that someone will go on social media, and this is what the left calls it, which says a lot about the left, and you'll get a person and they'll say something like, I think Donald Trump is just not that bad.

00:48:24.000 And immediately all the Trumpsters are like, you're so cool, you're so smart, that's so rational, so reasonable.

00:48:29.000 It feels good.

00:48:30.000 You're getting all this love and attention.

00:48:32.000 And so then you go, oh, I think he's actually cool.

00:48:34.000 And then they're like, oh, that's even better.

00:48:36.000 You're so much smarter than we thought.

00:48:37.000 And then you're like, he's actually the best.

00:48:39.000 And they're like, oh, you are so amazing.

00:48:41.000 You're the best.

00:48:42.000 The left is the opposite.

00:48:43.000 They hate bomb.

00:48:45.000 Like, that's their strategy.

00:48:46.000 Hate bombing.

00:48:47.000 You go on and you say, I think Donald Trump isn't that bad.

00:48:49.000 Why are you a bigot? 0.98

00:48:50.000 What's wrong with you, racist? 1.00

00:48:52.000 You better get on your knees. 0.99

00:48:54.000 Some people are coerced by that.

00:48:56.000 Some people are recruited by that, saying, I don't like the way this feels.

00:49:01.000 They're being mean to me.

00:49:02.000 No, no, no, no.

00:49:03.000 I agree with you.

00:49:03.000 You're right.

00:49:04.000 Please don't be mean anymore.

00:49:05.000 And now they're angry.

00:49:06.000 They're forced into this.

00:49:08.000 They don't understand.

00:49:08.000 They're just mad.

00:49:10.000 And it reminds me kind of like hazing, right?

00:49:13.000 So why do people at colleges or high schools haze freshmen newcomers?

00:49:19.000 They went through it.

00:49:21.000 Now it's my turn, right?

00:49:22.000 That's to build a shared experience and a common language.

00:49:25.000 I mean, some of this hazing, dude.

00:49:27.000 Oh, sure. 0.99

00:49:28.000 Like hurting people, making them drink themselves to death or have sex with animals or whatever. 0.99

00:49:31.000 That stuff's whack. 0.88

00:49:34.000 I mean like the stuff you hear about making somebody you know strip down to their boxers and jump in a potato sack is one thing but I'm talking about like there was one thing that happened in Illinois where they all like took a dump all these women took a dump in a dumpster and then made like the women like put it over their heads or something just really Weird.

00:49:51.000 Humiliation.

00:49:52.000 Like serious.

00:49:53.000 Established power hierarchy.

00:49:54.000 But what was happening was that every time someone got hazed in an extreme way, it traumatized and made them angry.

00:50:01.000 So then they wanted to repeat it and feel that power.

00:50:04.000 It's like beating kids.

00:50:04.000 I mean, that's a lot about child abuse and the cycle of abuse.

00:50:08.000 That's kind of what we're in right now.

00:50:10.000 It feels like a political cycle of abuse.

00:50:13.000 These Antifa people, in my opinion, feel like they've been abused, and now they want to feel good being the abuser, and they don't care who they take it out on.

00:50:19.000 Small business owners, random people, you know, living in the neighborhood.

00:50:23.000 Buildings.

00:50:24.000 You look at what happened, journalists, reporters, whatever they can justify.

00:50:29.000 And on the other side, this is a funny thing, you know, we had Vosh there the other day.

00:50:33.000 He did make a good point, but the point wasn't, I think, what he thought it was.

00:50:39.000 He said that the left doesn't have the kind of fervent militia or like far-right support of their leaders.

00:50:47.000 that the right does. So like on the right, there are right-wing militia groups, there are groups

00:50:52.000 like the Proud Boys that are overtly like yelling Trump and cheering and jumping up and down. Antifa

00:50:56.000 does not like Joe Biden. They want Joe Biden because Joe Biden will capitulate to them in

00:51:01.000 some capacity, but they despise him. So that's a good point.

00:51:04.000 As they should. But that also means that if Trump came out and was like, stop, then they'd be

00:51:11.000 like, okay. 0.98

00:51:13.000 Whereas Antifa goes, shut your mouth, Biden. 0.99

00:51:15.000 And they go around smashing and destroying things again. 0.91

00:51:17.000 So the left does have its violent apparatus, rage and anger.

00:51:21.000 And it's the ideology that's fueling a lot of the anger is supported by all the mainstream corporations and all these institutions and colleges.

00:51:29.000 And I mean, just to put it bluntly, I think all that just gets worse under Biden.

00:51:33.000 Or at the very least, it's empowered their ideology.

00:51:37.000 Well, it's not only supported by the institutions and corporations and academia and whatever, but by the municipalities themselves.

00:51:46.000 When you've got the mayors of Washington, D.C.

00:51:48.000 and New York City putting, you know, painting Black Lives Matter on the street, changing street names to Black Lives Matter Plaza like they did in Washington, D.C.

00:51:55.000 That's 1984, dude.

00:51:56.000 It's crazy.

00:51:57.000 It's crazy.

00:51:58.000 They named that street.

00:52:00.000 It's 16th and H in Washington, D.C., right across from Lafayette Square in the White House.

00:52:04.000 They named it Black Lives Matter Plaza because just a few nights ago there was a riot there and they destroyed the buildings and set the churches on fire, hit the cops with bricks, chased people around and were violent, and they celebrated it by naming the street after them.

00:52:20.000 You see what happened to that NYPD officer who yelled Trump 2020?

00:52:23.000 I think so.

00:52:23.000 Suspended. Suspended no pay. Meanwhile, the officers who took a knee were cheered and praised.

00:52:29.000 Morality policing. When your police departments literally show the symbol of the ideology,

00:52:35.000 and then you oppress the officers who say anything in the other direction or in any other, you know.

00:52:39.000 There's something to dictators and the power of like benevolent, like Athens was founded by a

00:52:44.000 benevolent dictator. And it's not, the word has taken a new connotation where we think of modern

00:52:49.000 dictators is like strong men that control through military force.

00:52:53.000 But the idea of being dictating speaking orators there like a good Obama was a dictator.

00:53:00.000 He spoke a lot.

00:53:01.000 He was very eloquent. 0.98

00:53:02.000 Trump is a dictator.

00:53:03.000 He gives two-hour speeches. 0.79

00:53:05.000 Biden's a very failed... he's not able to dictate.

00:53:08.000 And dictators rally crowds.

00:53:10.000 You can call it now an orator.

00:53:11.000 The word's kind of morphed into now orator.

00:53:14.000 And having a great one will become... that can empower and become a leader.

00:53:18.000 And a good one, if you are benevolent, can tell people, like, stand down.

00:53:22.000 Be kind.

00:53:23.000 Trump knows how to speak to his base.

00:53:26.000 No, Trump knows how to speak to anybody if he so chooses.

00:53:29.000 He's a code switcher.

00:53:30.000 He's an incredible communicator.

00:53:32.000 You catch him in these off moments where he's being very sociable and fun.

00:53:37.000 Remember, everybody loved Donald Trump in 2014.

00:53:40.000 Yep.

00:53:41.000 What did Obama say about him?

00:53:43.000 Was that the birth certificate era?

00:53:45.000 Oh, forget about that.

00:53:46.000 I'm just saying, leading up to that.

00:53:48.000 Kirk, if I'm wrong, didn't Obama say the American dream is to be Donald Trump?

00:53:51.000 No, probably.

00:53:52.000 Can you Google that?

00:53:54.000 Can we get a fact check on that?

00:53:56.000 That might just be a fake meme that, you know, people push around because it sounds good for Trump.

00:54:01.000 But, I mean, people did want to be Trump. 0.95

00:54:04.000 I thought he was a clown when he was going on about Obama's birth certificate. 0.99

00:54:07.000 Oh, I mean, that was so ridiculous, for sure. 0.99

00:54:09.000 But everybody watched The Apprentice. 0.83

00:54:11.000 I remember when the birth certificate thing was coming out, people were like,

00:54:16.000 if you load the birth certificate into Photoshop, it creates layers.

00:54:20.000 And I'm like, it doesn't mean anything.

00:54:21.000 But then you have people analyzing the video on YouTube and like, it's fake.

00:54:25.000 And I'm like, do you really think if Barack Obama was going to fake it,

00:54:29.000 he would forget to export properly?

00:54:32.000 It's just come on, dude.

00:54:33.000 I'm just I mean, if you put like pictures of you smoking crack and doing other terrible things on a laptop, would you just like leave it at a repair shop somewhere?

00:54:40.000 It's worse.

00:54:41.000 Guys, it's worse.

00:54:42.000 It's worse.

00:54:43.000 It's worse.

00:54:43.000 Ready for this?

00:54:44.000 It's so bad.

00:54:44.000 This is so exciting.

00:54:46.000 From SF Gate.

00:54:47.000 In law school, Obama co-wrote a paper referring to Trump as the American dream.

00:54:53.000 Booyah! 0.99

00:54:55.000 That's funny.

00:54:55.000 That's amazing.

00:54:56.000 I had not heard that.

00:54:57.000 I can't believe I hadn't heard that until now.

00:54:58.000 I kind of disagree though because he was born into money.

00:55:00.000 That's amazing. I had not heard that. I can't believe I hadn't heard that when Barack Obama was in Harvard Law

00:55:05.000 School He once alluded to businessman Donald Trump as representing

00:55:07.000 the American dream. Boom. That's from SF gate done certified

00:55:11.000 New York, I disagree though because he was born into money.

00:55:13.000 Isn't the dream coming from nothing and building like an empire? Oh

00:55:16.000 Well, there's a lot there's a lot of things you can talk about. How about his his it was his grandfather started the

00:55:22.000 business, right?

00:55:23.000 Yeah, and so isn't part of the American dream creating your family. Yeah making your family and your children better

00:55:29.000 off Yeah, man, and now the American dream for a lot of people

00:55:32.000 is what people don't realize what the American dream When these migrants come here and they cram their whole family in a studio apartment, five people, and the dad is working 16-hour days, that's the American dream. 1.00

00:55:46.000 That is the American dream.

00:55:47.000 The dream that you could leave a country with no upward mobility, with class repression and dictatorship, come here, Cram your entire family into a tiny, awful living space, work 16 hours a day, and then your kid gets a better job.

00:56:01.000 Then they start a family and they get to be a part of that wealthy American dream.

00:56:05.000 People come here for capitalism.

00:56:07.000 They don't come here for socialism.

00:56:09.000 Jeez Louise, people.

00:56:11.000 Can we get this straight?

00:56:12.000 I do love the meme where it's like, how come no one's fleeing to Venezuela?

00:56:16.000 And the only real excuse you typically get from socialists is, well, the United States caused those problems.

00:56:22.000 And it's just like, Get lost.

00:56:24.000 You're telling me your solution is a magic, like your problem is with a magic wand.

00:56:28.000 A nebulous statement doesn't mean anything.

00:56:30.000 Prove to me that the failed state of Venezuela was caused by American influence.

00:56:35.000 I would like, I think, I thought it was the sanctions that put too much pressure on their government and they couldn't, it just broke their economy.

00:56:41.000 Why can't they support themselves with their own economy? 0.73

00:56:44.000 I don't know.

00:56:44.000 Why aren't they energy independent?

00:56:45.000 Why aren't they able to grow their own food? 0.98

00:56:47.000 They're small and they're like a jungle They were the wealthiest country.

00:56:49.000 No, they sit on a giant pile of oil.

00:56:52.000 Yeah, but you can't extract it.

00:56:53.000 Why can't they extract it?

00:56:55.000 They don't have the technology.

00:56:56.000 Boom, yeah.

00:56:56.000 No, that's not true, dude.

00:56:57.000 They're socialists, dude.

00:56:59.000 I could be wrong, so I guess maybe... I can fact check this, too.

00:57:03.000 My understanding, it's been a long time, it's been six years since I went there, was that they nationalized the oil industry so that we can share all the profits.

00:57:09.000 Here's the good news.

00:57:10.000 The people of Venezuela pay ridiculously low costs for gasoline.

00:57:14.000 It's really, really cheap.

00:57:16.000 And they can't trade or do anything else.

00:57:17.000 Because OPEC won't buy their oil.

00:57:19.000 Is that what it is?

00:57:20.000 Unless they take OPEC money.

00:57:22.000 Yeah, they nationalized in 1976.

00:57:23.000 Yeah, it's called PDVSA.

00:57:26.000 And they won't, they take the Bolivar.

00:57:29.000 Bolivar Fuerte now, I think.

00:57:30.000 Oh, is it?

00:57:31.000 I don't know.

00:57:31.000 They keep changing it.

00:57:32.000 They got to slice off like easier.

00:57:34.000 One of the ways OPEC bullies countries with their oil is they make them sell their oil in U.S. 0.99

00:57:39.000 dollars.

00:57:40.000 Right.

00:57:40.000 If they won't bow to that, then they like ostracize them.

00:57:42.000 They'll put sanctions on the country and be like, you know, Take our money or... So what's stopping the country from... I'm not sure that's exactly right.

00:57:48.000 Well, the international oil trade is in U.S.

00:57:51.000 dollars.

00:57:51.000 Correct.

00:57:52.000 But I don't think that that's OPEC's decision.

00:57:54.000 Well, I think there's a lot more than just OPEC.

00:57:57.000 I don't think it's OPEC's decision.

00:57:58.000 It's probably, you'd be better off saying, I don't know, IMF or something.

00:58:01.000 Jeez, how deep does it go?

00:58:02.000 Well, international... International settlements, yeah.

00:58:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:05.000 EIS.

00:58:06.000 So I put it this way.

00:58:07.000 I mean, there's no reason Whether they're sanctions or not, a country should fall into absolute chaos or whatever, because that implies that other countries just magically have the ability to be successful and grow their own food on their own.

00:58:21.000 And for some reason, this country can't do it.

00:58:24.000 Well, U.S.

00:58:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:58:25.000 is very unique that it has such a landmass, that it can grow crops, and has oil, and has uranium, I think.

00:58:31.000 But that doesn't explain why Venezuela has like 12 jobs in one cell phone store, right?

00:58:37.000 So, when I went to Venezuela, this is the easiest anecdote I can give to people, it's like, what's wrong with the country?

00:58:42.000 I wanted to buy a cell phone.

00:58:45.000 It was like six people.

00:58:46.000 In the United States, when you want to buy a cell phone, you walk into T-Mobile, and the lady walks up to you, and she's like, how can I help you?

00:58:50.000 I'd like that phone.

00:58:51.000 You're like, okay, let me go grab it from the back.

00:58:52.000 She walks out, it's this much a month, here's how much it costs, and you go, awesome, and you sign the thing, and then she types the things in, then she puts SIM card in, she calls, boom, you got a cell phone!

00:59:00.000 Yeah, so good.

00:59:01.000 You know what it was like in Venezuela?

00:59:03.000 I walked in, walked to the counter, I had a translator, and they showed me a list of all their phones,

00:59:08.000 and I said this phone, and then they gave me a piece of paper and sent me to acquisitions,

00:59:12.000 then I went upstairs and went to someone, showed it to them, and they said, ah, okay,

00:59:15.000 and then they went and came back with the phone, then they pointed me, gave me a slip,

00:59:20.000 pointed me to planning, then I went to another guy and he showed me the plans, then I picked a plan,

00:59:25.000 then he wrote a piece of paper, gave me this.

00:59:26.000 Sounds like the DMV, dude.

00:59:28.000 Yeah, I'm not kidding.

00:59:30.000 I was laughing, it took two hours.

00:59:33.000 It took two hours for me to get a phone, and then the last thing was the SIM card,

00:59:36.000 and then finally it was the payment, and the dude who was with me, I was laughing,

00:59:41.000 and he was like, it's crazy, right?

00:59:43.000 Because the government mandated these jobs.

00:59:45.000 Everything slowed to a crawl and breaks.

00:59:49.000 And you have people working jobs that don't do anything but reduce efficiency.

00:59:53.000 And so, like, he's explaining to me, because the government has to mandate jobs because of socialism, they just figure out ways to make people work in some way, even if it doesn't help.

01:00:04.000 And so what they did was, okay, everyone's got a job now, even though your job literally makes the thing harder to do.

01:00:09.000 One of the Federal Reserve's goals is to give everyone jobs, even if it means one guy's digging a hole, the other guy's filling the hole back up.

01:00:16.000 They want them working so they're not focused on, you know, the debt machine that wants interest.

01:00:20.000 Well, that's too much.

01:00:22.000 Like, the Federal Reserve does a lot of things, but to say that they're trying to do that... Venezuela's literally a socialist government that had to figure out how to put everyone to work.

01:00:30.000 Whenever they're like, jobs!

01:00:31.000 I'm gonna bring jobs back!

01:00:32.000 Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs!

01:00:33.000 Like, what kind of job?

01:00:34.000 A crappy job that is a guy digging a hole in the other guy's job as fill it?

01:00:37.000 Yeah, but what's a real example of that? 0.96

01:00:38.000 A job to go murder people in another country? 0.97

01:00:40.000 Like, what's your job?

01:00:41.000 Jobs doesn't mean it's good.

01:00:43.000 There can be bad jobs that we need to get rid of.

01:00:45.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:00:46.000 I think one of the biggest problems we have is that we have a bunch of jobs that are intermediaries that don't do anything.

01:00:51.000 Or that do damage.

01:00:53.000 Yeah, I think we're getting to a point where there are a lot of jobs that are remnants of a bygone era, for instance.

01:01:00.000 I don't want to call on anyone's job specifically because I don't want to drag anybody over their job that I might think is obsolete.

01:01:07.000 But there's a lot of jobs that have been made obsolete by the internet.

01:01:09.000 By kiosks, for instance.

01:01:10.000 you know, fast food and stuff. So when you have a market based economy that responds to price

01:01:15.000 signals set by buyers and sellers, then we allocate our resources efficiently. That's why we like our

01:01:22.000 system, because we are generally moving towards efficiency, even if we're not 100% efficient,

01:01:27.000 we're moving towards efficiency.

01:01:29.000 I want to back up a second and talk about these empathy triggers that we were talking about earlier.

01:01:34.000 We were talking about the way that they create these tribes, right?

01:01:37.000 The tribes of the other and the good and the bad and the way that people absorb information and then believe something without understanding it.

01:01:46.000 It's because we're being sorted now into tribes based on empathetic triggers.

01:01:52.000 So think about it.

01:01:53.000 You see a video.

01:01:54.000 And one person, if you're in this tribe, you feel a certain way about, you know, George Floyd and the knee on the neck or whatever, or you see a video of somebody coming out of a store with loot in their hand and you get an emotional trigger.

01:02:05.000 If you believe in Black Lives Matter and all the thing and you see somebody looting, you're like, yeah, man, you know, just destroy, get it, whatever. 0.83

01:02:11.000 But if you're on the right side, you see that and you just feel immediately like rage.

01:02:16.000 And so we're just being bombarded constantly with these images that are supposed to elicit this emotional response out of us that's like deeper than our voice or our speaking or our self-talk, right?

01:02:28.000 It's empathy is in dogs and animals and chickens and whatever.

01:02:31.000 It's in us to it predates language so we can communicate with each other through empathetic triggers and that's what's happening with social media with the videos with the Internet and we're all being completely sorted based on our empathetic responses to the same kind of images and that's why It also triggers this hate as well, and there's just no reasoning behind it.

01:02:51.000 You can't reason people out of it when they're responding on a level that's like below language.

01:02:57.000 Oh yeah, reason breaks down after taking empathy.

01:03:00.000 Well, when you get angry, you don't think logically.

01:03:04.000 So there was a, uh, I was reading this story once about, it was like a U.S.

01:03:08.000 naval vessel that was sank, and all the soldiers, you know, or sailors, fled to the life rafts, and then one guy, everyone's freaking out, he pulled out a service weapon, dismantled it, took out all the bullets, and then gave everyone a part, and said, shut up, we're gonna rebuild this.

01:03:24.000 And then everyone was confused, and he's like, shut up, we're rebuilding it.

01:03:26.000 Go!" 0.79

01:03:27.000 And then they had to piece it together.

01:03:29.000 And that was a survival training to put people back in a logical state of mind to get them out of the rage, the panic mode.

01:03:35.000 So then they start thinking, I have to wait for my name to be called.

01:03:38.000 So it puts them in a systematic.

01:03:39.000 That allowed them to think clearly and rationally, come up with a plan.

01:03:42.000 And survive longer.

01:03:44.000 That's actually a fantastic stress management tool right there.

01:03:44.000 That's very smart.

01:03:48.000 But assigning everybody a piece, saying what's all your name.

01:03:51.000 Sounds like giving people jobs.

01:03:53.000 And it does, doesn't it?

01:03:55.000 Yeah, it does.

01:03:56.000 People love jobs, man.

01:03:57.000 I want to keep talking about what you're talking about, but I want to talk about, say this real quick, that if, like in the matrix, it looks like if we were automating jobs away and it's going to like, what is our job now?

01:04:06.000 Talking into a camera or whatever.

01:04:08.000 And then in the future, like, what's your job?

01:04:10.000 Using the heat that your body produces to create electricity, and then they put them in tanks, and you're just plugged in. 0.98

01:04:15.000 That was so dumb, by the way. 0.93

01:04:16.000 Yeah, but that was like, their job became just to produce heat, their body. 0.99

01:04:21.000 And maybe that is our ultimate jobs.

01:04:23.000 Well, I mean, look, to be fair, that dude, I forgot his name in the Matrix, who wants to go back in.

01:04:29.000 Right, the guy with the steak and the red wine and the red dress?

01:04:32.000 He's like, just put Yes.

01:04:33.000 Cypher.

01:04:34.000 Cypher, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:37.000 He's like... Joey Pantalone.

01:04:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:04:38.000 What was the joke he said?

01:04:39.000 You know why everything tastes like chicken?

01:04:41.000 Because the machines never had real meat before, so they just make everything taste like chicken.

01:04:45.000 Something like that.

01:04:46.000 But I empathize with that idea.

01:04:50.000 That he's just put me in the machine where I just generate heat and get to live a normal life.

01:04:56.000 You know, what's the point of being flushed out into the netherworld of, you know, weird robots and eating sludge and stuff?

01:05:03.000 For me, I'm all about freedom though.

01:05:04.000 I was gonna say, where would you go?

01:05:05.000 I've already established that I'm comfortable being other and counterculture and I like to resist the mainstream sort of themes.

01:05:14.000 Would you want to be in the Matrix or would you want to be in the in the spaceship trying to find Zion and save the world and free everybody from the Matrix?

01:05:23.000 Where would you be?

01:05:24.000 Red wine, red dress, red steak?

01:05:27.000 No.

01:05:27.000 I'll tell you what, man.

01:05:28.000 You know what the best part about getting out of the Matrix is?

01:05:32.000 You can control your own virtual realities if you're outside of it.

01:05:36.000 So the people who were in it were doting about normal lives with limited control, but it was, like, calming, I guess.

01:05:42.000 Because that was one of the points that Smith made in the Matrix, that they gave humans paradise, and humans rejected it, because it was not normal.

01:05:51.000 But the people who leave the Matrix can have that thing go into their heads or whatever, and then they can create their own little virtual world.

01:05:57.000 So it's kind of like, hey, I'll tell you what, man.

01:05:59.000 You get to go out.

01:06:00.000 Life's not easy.

01:06:01.000 I'm okay with life not being easy.

01:06:03.000 But then you get really awesome breaks where you can learn kung fu instantly and stuff.

01:06:06.000 I gotta show everyone this comet.

01:06:08.000 Oh, snap. 0.99

01:06:09.000 He's a guy and he's got a packet of silica gel.

01:06:12.000 And he goes, those silica gel industry big shots can't tell me what to do.

01:06:12.000 Do not eat.

01:06:16.000 And then he eats it.

01:06:17.000 The next one is him with like a cap on with electrodes and he's like shocked.

01:06:20.000 And there's two doctors and one says, congratulations, you've escaped the simulation.

01:06:24.000 Welcome to the real world.

01:06:25.000 Don't eat silica gel.

01:06:28.000 Industry big shots can't tell me what to do.

01:06:31.000 Now going back to empathy triggers.

01:06:33.000 Yes.

01:06:33.000 I think social media and these algorithms are exacerbating that corralling.

01:06:38.000 100% and it's gone beyond political networking.

01:06:38.000 Definitely.

01:06:44.000 It's gone beyond emergent political networks like Hong Kong or Chile or France or whatever.

01:06:50.000 Now we're moving into tribes.

01:06:51.000 Bro, it's the aliens.

01:06:53.000 Do you think so?

01:06:54.000 Because if our brains are receivers, check this out.

01:06:57.000 You know your brain's like a bunch of neurons of electricity.

01:07:00.000 That's very sensitive to other electricity.

01:07:02.000 And you know, what if something's beaming something to our brains?

01:07:06.000 Like if obviously the sun's beaming light to us, but what if there's the galactic core or something or.

01:07:11.000 The Galactic Federation.

01:07:12.000 Intelligent vibration is like interacting with our brain.

01:07:15.000 And they're more like radio transmitters that are, they're tuned in to the right frequency

01:07:19.000 and then behaving the way that the free.

01:07:21.000 And so when you're writing information and your brain is like growing,

01:07:25.000 you're actually writing a new tuning shape that's receiving different information.

01:07:31.000 That's just wildly speculative.

01:07:33.000 It's like, the joke I was making was like, you're talking about how we're being corralled.

01:07:39.000 And I was just like, like sheep, we're being corralled like sheep, like someone is, you know, they got they got a stick and they're flapping it and there's like a dog running around and barking at us and we're going, we're all running into little corrals where we're being neatly tribalized.

01:07:51.000 But what's also happening, talking about empathy triggers, it's interesting.

01:07:56.000 People who are likely to get angry, people who are likely to get sad, people who are likely to get angry at X, people who are likely to get angry at Y, are all being put in bubbles that can be mapped out.

01:08:06.000 So these data networks are really interesting where they take, they do visualizations of Twitter, and you'll see Democrats and Republicans, and like Republicans smaller, but like really tightly packed, meaning they agree more with each other, and the Democrats are very spread out.

01:08:20.000 And so what happens is, it's like you were saying, you show someone a picture of You know, George Floyd, some people react X, some people react Y, and they all immediately cluster.

01:08:29.000 And now we've created, we've strengthened the borders around the different types of people, the different emotional reactions, all neatly packaged and quantified.

01:08:39.000 The joke I was making was that aliens are shepherding us.

01:08:42.000 I don't think aliens are shepherding us.

01:08:43.000 But why would we be doing that to ourselves?

01:08:45.000 Accidentally.

01:08:46.000 Is there such a thing as an accident?

01:08:49.000 Well, the systems evolved to do whatever we thought they were going to do.

01:08:54.000 We created this social media network, DARPA started on it, whatever we got here.

01:08:58.000 But now it's like an emergent phenomenon.

01:09:00.000 You know, people figure out something that works and then people repeat it and repeat it and repeat it and repeat it.

01:09:05.000 So in a way we are doing it to ourselves on purpose.

01:09:08.000 And then the meme makers, the meme magicians, the people that control narrative, They are DEFINITELY doing it on purpose.

01:09:16.000 100%.

01:09:16.000 Okay, 100% Well, so I've been thinking about

01:09:19.000 It's what we're doing Especially, right, for sure

01:09:21.000 So like my main channel is like typically Democrats are doing this

01:09:27.000 and I don't like them for these reasons But you know, I've fought long and hard

01:09:30.000 I'm like, first of all, I do think there's criticism towards me, same as any other partisan who's producing content because they're focused on something they don't like.

01:09:37.000 But what I think it is, it's not that I'm making things up.

01:09:41.000 The Democrats are doing screwed up things.

01:09:41.000 No, no, no, no.

01:09:44.000 Nancy Pelosi got Republicans to cave on the COVID relief bill and even

01:09:48.000 Jake Tapper and Wolf Blitzer were like, why won't you say yes? But why is Nancy Pelosi refusing to

01:09:53.000 say yes? For tribal reasons where she's like, but Trump did this, I'm not going to let him

01:09:59.000 win on this. So then I see that and I go, harumph, then she gets mad. And so there's a back and forth

01:10:05.000 where arguably, you know, different pockets of, you know, of other tribes are morally

01:10:10.000 justified in certain things.

01:10:11.000 And then people are getting outraged at the other.

01:10:13.000 It's a tit for tat.

01:10:13.000 You know what I mean?

01:10:14.000 It's a never ending cycle of, but you did screw us over on COVID relief.

01:10:18.000 I am mad about that.

01:10:19.000 Republicans didn't do that.

01:10:21.000 And then Nancy Pelosi does something, but the tribalists defend her and ignore what she's doing because they're more mad about Donald Trump and his reaction to COVID.

01:10:29.000 And so then they complain about Trump and COVID.

01:10:30.000 You see how like this machine keeps churning.

01:10:32.000 Yeah.

01:10:33.000 And the influencers, the people that are driving I like to consider them, and I got this from John Robb, who is a networks analyst and a special forces guy.

01:10:43.000 Wrote a great book, Brave New War.

01:10:45.000 You should check it out.

01:10:46.000 And he and I have had a lot of conversations, and one of the things we've come to the conclusion is that the influencers, the leaders, were narrative curators, right?

01:10:56.000 So, like, information is everywhere and ubiquitous.

01:10:59.000 In fact, there's so much of it, we don't want it.

01:11:00.000 There's too much information.

01:11:02.000 And it's completely irrational to think that individuals are going to be able to sort through

01:11:06.000 all that information and figure out what's what. So an easier, more efficient way of sorting people

01:11:10.000 and getting people into places through these empathetic triggers. And then the people that

01:11:14.000 can control the large groups, they're the ones that can curate these empathetic triggers and

01:11:19.000 curate narrative in a way that causes people to coalesce.

01:11:23.000 And once you control the narrative, it can control these empathetic triggers.

01:11:27.000 You can literally control masses of people, millions of people, mobs in the street, go to war, vote for this guy, change the country, go that direction through. 0.90

01:11:36.000 I mean, it sounds so silly.

01:11:37.000 Remember 2016 people are like, Oh, I survived the meme war.

01:11:40.000 I'm a meme war veteran.

01:11:41.000 Yeah.

01:11:42.000 Right.

01:11:42.000 It seems so silly then, but actually, if you think about it now, it's actually very, very apt.

01:11:46.000 I believe it is fair to say that 4chan memed Trump into the presidency.

01:11:49.000 I'm not kidding.

01:11:50.000 I'm not saying they got him every single vote, but they got Trump votes.

01:11:53.000 The Pepe picture with Trump's hair was really cute.

01:11:55.000 There were funny things that would pop up that someone would see, and then someone else would laugh and be like, make your own, laugh, join the fun.

01:12:03.000 And people were laughing and sharing memes, and it probably got a bunch of people who were like, probably mid to late 20s, who were like, you know what, I like what I'm hearing, I like what I'm seeing, this is fun, it's fun, I'm having a good time.

01:12:13.000 And those memes swung opinions.

01:12:15.000 Definitely.

01:12:16.000 I mean, you know, as well as I do.

01:12:16.000 Swung votes.

01:12:18.000 And you had Olympic car here.

01:12:19.000 He knows as well, too, that, I mean, there is a connection between Gamergate, 4chan, the issues on 4chan, people coming onto Twitter, all these people who are on these on 4chan coming onto Twitter.

01:12:32.000 Finally, the whole Gamergate fiasco.

01:12:34.000 And literally that was the trajectory that sort of led to the meme magic that brought Trump into power.

01:12:41.000 I was talking to somebody, a friend of mine, about the split, you know, like the tribal cultural warfare stuff.

01:12:48.000 And she was telling me, you know, if we bring people together, we can end this.

01:12:51.000 And I was like, I hate to be pessimistic, but I don't think you can bridge that divide anymore.

01:12:57.000 But the split happened, you know, in the late 2000s.

01:13:00.000 What ends up happening is, it's like I was saying, you know, like, I'll see them do something and say, I'm sick of this.

01:13:04.000 I think the Republicans are bad, but can you believe what the Democrats are doing?

01:13:08.000 Like, especially COVID relief is so important, they're blaming Mitch McConnell.

01:13:10.000 Oh, I'll criticize Mitch McConnell for adjourning the Senate until the 9th.

01:13:13.000 I think they should have done something, but the problem was Nancy Pelosi would not accept them constantly giving her what she wanted. 1.00

01:13:19.000 So if you go all the way back in time, Gamergate stuff, before that, how did this Gamergate happen?

01:13:25.000 It was a gradual tit-for-tat.

01:13:27.000 Tribes were slowly forming, and then, I've mentioned this several, several times, CGP Grey has a great video called, This Video Will Make You Angry, explains how The memes and the arguments are not made... So he's like, consider it like one side are butterflies and one side are flowers.

01:13:45.000 They actually help each other become more angry and extreme in their views.

01:13:49.000 Because what happens is the one side, they all argue with each other about the other side.

01:13:57.000 So you have both sides festering and bouncing ideas around about each other and never actually crossing over and talking to each other.

01:14:03.000 So that just makes the divide get crazier and crazier and crazier and then every day people say them, them, them and complain about them and everybody's doing it.

01:14:12.000 And everybody feels justified in doing it, myself included.

01:14:15.000 And if you remember, you know, people that have transitions like myself and others that went Democrat to deplorable on amazon.com, if you, if you have a transition, usually it's because of some sort of traumatic experience that happens to you.

01:14:15.000 Yeah.

01:14:29.000 Something so bad has to happen that you are willing to let go of your ego attachment to your mental framework.

01:14:35.000 And you're willing to re willing to reconsider a different perspective.

01:14:40.000 And what I am concerned about right now, and I've just witnessed it by tipping, dipping my toe back into Facebook and talking to my old normie friends, is that what traumatic experience is going to happen to them in order to have them shake free of their ego attachment to this mental framework that's been inserted into their brain?

01:14:59.000 Unfortunately, if it's not an individual instance, it's going to have to be a national instance.

01:15:05.000 Man, you know, who knows what that's gonna be or when it's gonna happen.

01:15:09.000 You couldn't bridge the divide?

01:15:10.000 Alien invasion? 0.97

01:15:12.000 You know, I talked about that with John Ra, but you know, some of us are gonna wanna just shoot, nuke them, you know, from, you know, nuke them in orbit. 0.97

01:15:21.000 Nuke them in orbit.

01:15:22.000 Or some of them are gonna welcome them, others are gonna think, I mean, it's gonna be divided then too.

01:15:26.000 You know what I think it'll be?

01:15:28.000 The aliens will be, you know, they'll have some kind of ideology called, you know, Glorbobism.

01:15:34.000 And Americans are going to be like, we welcome the aliens, but they got to assimilate if they want to come here. 0.99

01:15:40.000 And the left is going to be like, they come with wonderful technology across the stars.

01:15:44.000 I think we can hear out their idea, you know, and be welcome.

01:15:47.000 It's always going to be the same things.

01:15:49.000 I thought there was a moment that COVID was going to be the aliens that brought us together back in the end of February, early March.

01:15:55.000 The lattice against China.

01:15:57.000 You know, that lasted for like, I don't know, four seconds.

01:15:59.000 Hominids like evolved, you know, like Homo sapien is new relatively.

01:16:04.000 We used to be all kind of different hominid. 0.85

01:16:06.000 I think it's like 40,000 years or something.

01:16:08.000 And then we annihilated the other hominids. 1.00

01:16:11.000 So even the other Homo sapiens sapiens.

01:16:14.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

01:16:15.000 Like Neanderthals, Homo Florensis, like we just killed them all. 1.00

01:16:19.000 Homo Sapien Sapien was a sub... There's like seven other Homo Sapien Sapien out there, I think, and they died off.

01:16:25.000 So if we don't bridge the gap, I think that part of us are going to evolve and then hopefully not annihilate the old ones, but potentially.

01:16:33.000 This is an interesting argument about who would ultimately win in a major conflict, the collectivists or the individualists.

01:16:40.000 And it's a good argument for the collectivists.

01:16:43.000 You think?

01:16:43.000 Absolutely.

01:16:45.000 But they've lost every single time so far.

01:16:49.000 It's tough.

01:16:52.000 I don't know.

01:16:52.000 Well, you have to come together to win a war.

01:16:53.000 That's why I said it's a good argument, not a definitive position.

01:16:56.000 But fighting for other people or fighting for yourself, which happens to benefit other people, is a very powerful difference and a very powerful distinction.

01:17:03.000 So why is Antifa allowed to continue this reign of terror?

01:17:07.000 Oh, well, that's easy because people love the destruction, they love the distraction.

01:17:12.000 They want to be able to blame Donald Trump for bad things.

01:17:15.000 They've got allies that act in concert and protect each other.

01:17:20.000 So the media is absolutely defending Antifa and Black Lives Matter rioters.

01:17:27.000 Now, journalists will talk about the riots, for sure.

01:17:30.000 But there are major components of, say, like, the New York Times that will justify it.

01:17:34.000 There's the book In Defense of Looting.

01:17:37.000 They have powerful media allies.

01:17:39.000 And the thing is, the really simple way to put it is, When I say that journalists will cover the riots, those journalists are allied with the activist journalists who defend Antifa overtly, not with conservative media.

01:17:52.000 So there was a story I was reading earlier from San Antonio Express, I think it was, about Project Veritas' expose on the voter fraud stuff.

01:18:00.000 And the whole thing was just ridiculously poisoned well.

01:18:05.000 Veritas released a heavily edited video.

01:18:08.000 They've been accused of deceiving and running smear campaigns.

01:18:11.000 Like, before they even told you what they saw, they were making sure you hated Veritas.

01:18:17.000 That is mainstream media allied with the activists.

01:18:22.000 If a conservative outlet publishes news, mainstream establishment media typically says, go F yourself.

01:18:28.000 That's power of collectivism.

01:18:30.000 So conservatives do have their collective.

01:18:32.000 It's true.

01:18:33.000 It's like interesting moments where conservatives form collectives and we're seeing rallies for Trump and stuff like that.

01:18:38.000 But what's interesting now is there are things that look like collective behavior that are really just emergent phenomenon and emergent networks that have people who have Well, that's true.

01:18:49.000 momentarily aligned interests. And therefore they're willing to work in concert with other

01:18:54.000 people in order to achieve this goal that they have in common. Once the goal dissipates,

01:18:59.000 then the alliance dissipates, the goal moves. Well, that's true. Yeah. Talk about, that's

01:19:06.000 why they're not free for free speech anymore.

01:19:08.000 That's why it was the left protesting the World Trade Organization, the battle in Seattle, and now they're in favor of international trade.

01:19:14.000 That's why the Democrats used to say, we need to regulate, and now you've got all these Democrats saying, put in a private platform.

01:19:20.000 Their tribe just said, we're going to realign in this direction.

01:19:23.000 And it's funny because it was a tit-for-tat.

01:19:25.000 Republicans have a real reason to want Section 230 reform on big tech, because their constituents are getting banned for saying innocuous things like Learn to Code.

01:19:34.000 The Democrats then must take the immediate opposite reaction of,

01:19:37.000 but my private platform, we should agree on this.

01:19:40.000 But no, it's always about being the other and the gold moves.

01:19:43.000 Well, if we want to throw out one major criticism of Donald Trump is that he did not move quickly

01:19:48.000 or with enough strength or with enough force to actually protect the people that helped him get

01:19:53.000 elected over social media in 2016, 2015, etc. And it's a little too little, a little too late.

01:19:59.000 It's because the rest of the senators are all taken by corporate interests, moneyed interests.

01:20:04.000 Nobody really, really wants to implement anti-trust.

01:20:07.000 No one really wants to crack down on the corporations.

01:20:10.000 They're all getting money from them.

01:20:11.000 And if Trump had actually been smarter about this earlier on, then it would have actually helped him quite a bit.

01:20:16.000 Trump could have done one thing.

01:20:18.000 He could have just signed up for Mines.

01:20:21.000 But I mean it.

01:20:22.000 I was with Bill Ottman, co-founder, along with Ian, of Mines.

01:20:26.000 Co-founder of Mines?

01:20:28.000 I had no idea.

01:20:28.000 I'm on Mines.

01:20:29.000 Let's do it.

01:20:30.000 So I was with Bill.

01:20:32.000 We went to the White House.

01:20:34.000 It was a social media summit.

01:20:35.000 And someone said, will you sign up for a alternate platform?

01:20:39.000 And Trump said, which one?

01:20:40.000 And a bunch of us aren't saying things.

01:20:42.000 And it's like, well, I don't care what it is.

01:20:44.000 I say mine's Ian's in the room.

01:20:45.000 Gap.

01:20:46.000 Parlor.

01:20:47.000 But they're not free software.

01:20:48.000 They are also alternate.

01:20:50.000 Free software is a big deal.

01:20:51.000 All I'm saying is, if Trump right now posted something saber-rattling, you know, oh, those Russians are in China, and he put it on Mines, the media would be forced to report about it.

01:21:03.000 And then all of a sudden people would, it would be massive press for a new platform that would attract massive user bases, and it would offset the monopoly held by these other, what was it called, the big three, I guess?

01:21:13.000 Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube?

01:21:16.000 Google.

01:21:17.000 Oh, Google.

01:21:18.000 Is it Google?

01:21:19.000 YouTube.

01:21:19.000 YouTube, Twitter, Facebook.

01:21:21.000 Yeah, the big social networks.

01:21:22.000 So Trump could snap his fingers and just totally, you know, Twitter was dying before Trump came.

01:21:28.000 Twitter was losing users.

01:21:29.000 They didn't know what they were going to do.

01:21:30.000 And then Trump came along and then Trump started tweeting and they loved it.

01:21:34.000 What's the right way to phrase this?

01:21:35.000 It's not his fault personally, but the action did lead to the mass tribalization through Twitter and the fighting and all this stuff.

01:21:40.000 to take. Well I will I will. What's the right way to phrase this. It's not his

01:21:45.000 fault personally but the action did lead to the mass tribalization through

01:21:49.000 Twitter and the fighting and all the stuff like if Twitter just went away

01:21:53.000 we'd be a lot better off. But now we've created this you know this battlefield

01:21:58.000 for the culture war which is Twitter and people are mean on purpose to earn

01:22:02.000 I can say the nastiest thing, I get retweets I likes.

01:22:04.000 People like it when I'm nasty, ooh, and everyone does it.

01:22:07.000 Anyway, I digress.

01:22:08.000 Trump could just sign up for any one of these things, and it would have just totally shut down the bias.

01:22:12.000 If Trump said, Twitter just censored a bunch of my supporters, so I'm gonna go sign up and exclusively post on this platform, Twitter would be like, no, no, no, no, we're gonna reinstate them, we're gonna, please, we're, We're dying.

01:22:23.000 Twitter's stock was tanking.

01:22:25.000 It was totally tanking years ago.

01:22:27.000 And if Trump just said, I will leave right now and go post here, Twitter would have been like, we're so sorry, Donald.

01:22:34.000 We're gonna unban.

01:22:35.000 It was a mistake.

01:22:37.000 All of these people, Milo and Alex Jones, are welcome back on the platform.

01:22:41.000 And we're just trying to protect speech.

01:22:43.000 It would happen.

01:22:44.000 That makes me think that, you know, that part of the Trump phenomenon was him just getting on the right wave at the right time.

01:22:50.000 You know, it's like a balance.

01:22:52.000 Is it really just is he like a super genius and he was able to, like, make all this happen?

01:22:56.000 Or was he just perfectly crafted to ride the wave at the right time?

01:23:00.000 Because this is a major, a major issue that could have been resolved.

01:23:03.000 He's he's he's not the cause of.

01:23:04.000 Yeah.

01:23:04.000 And I've said it a lot, he's a symptom of the existing cultural, the culture, the growing culture or whatever it

01:23:11.000 is. And a lot of people, I mean, PC was a big issue for a lot of

01:23:16.000 Trump supporters. When I traveled around in 2015 and 16, I went to a Trump rally and it was, I think it was Janesville,

01:23:23.000 Maybe it was just near Janesville.

01:23:25.000 And I talked to some young guys, early twenties, late, you know, late teenagers.

01:23:28.000 And they were Trump supporters and I said, what brings you out here?

01:23:31.000 And they were like, the PC culture stuff is just getting crazy.

01:23:34.000 These are guys who grew up on South Park and Family Guy, man. 0.69

01:23:36.000 They make really offensive jokes about, you know, Jewish people and gay people and black people.

01:23:41.000 That's like, we were all raised on this kind of really offensive humor.

01:23:44.000 The family guy, I could be wrong about this story, but I remember one of the reasons for their cancellation was that they had an episode called, When You Wish Upon a Weinstein.

01:23:52.000 And it was Peter finds like, he tracks down a Jewish guy and then says, I need help with my accounting.

01:23:57.000 And he's like, how did you know that I'm an accountant?

01:23:58.000 And then, you know, he makes a joke.

01:24:00.000 So this, so I don't know if that's why they got canceled, but it was like a lost episode and they brought it back.

01:24:05.000 You got these young guys who grew up on that, and so that leads them to supporting Trump.

01:24:09.000 The memes, the offensive jokes, all that stuff.

01:24:12.000 Interestingly, same rally, the older working class guys who are like mid to late 40s were saying factories, trade deals.

01:24:20.000 And I even met some of these guys who were pro-Bernie before, you know, Bernie dropped, like, got knocked out, and then they went to Trump.

01:24:26.000 Yep.

01:24:27.000 Yeah.

01:24:28.000 Uh, I did a survey and 90% of people that voted for Donald Trump in this survey cited one reason as a response to political correctness.

01:24:36.000 You know, that's not a myth.

01:24:37.000 That's a real thing.

01:24:38.000 And it's, it's about people feeling stifled and not able to just be who they are, just be crass or just make jokes or whatever.

01:24:44.000 It just was, it was a big deal for people.

01:24:46.000 It still is.

01:24:47.000 So this is interesting because so long as you have Trump, who is the S poster in chief, and he can say bombastic stuff. 0.96

01:24:55.000 Then we can be ourselves because we're not nearly as crazy as Trump is. 0.93

01:24:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:24:59.000 When Trump goes up there and he says all this, you know, stuff, you know that your worst is not as bad as Trump has been at certain points. 0.98

01:25:07.000 Like when he called Rose O'Donnell fat pig. 0.99

01:25:09.000 He's been, he's been a lot better.

01:25:10.000 He's the foil in like literary liturgy.

01:25:14.000 He would be the foil.

01:25:15.000 He's actually gotten a lot better.

01:25:16.000 I remember at a rally recently, he was like, I'm not going to say it because they're going to get mad at me if I do.

01:25:21.000 And I was like, there he goes.

01:25:22.000 He's trying to tone it down a little bit.

01:25:23.000 Speaking of people feeling, what word did you use?

01:25:27.000 Not oppressed, but stifled and not wanting to feel stifled.

01:25:30.000 He wants to open up the economy and Biden wants to keep it shut down.

01:25:34.000 Talking about stifling people.

01:25:36.000 So, right, right.

01:25:36.000 That's a good point.

01:25:37.000 This is why I bring up the PC stuff and what he was saying, because now cancel culture is worse than ever.

01:25:43.000 Worse.

01:25:44.000 The worst I've ever seen in my life.

01:25:46.000 Yeah, like what they're going after Joe Rogan right now because it Alex Jones on dude

01:25:50.000 They should let Milo back on the Twitter what that?

01:25:52.000 Milo was a troublemaker Tyra. He's a troublemaker. Yeah, well for sure

01:25:57.000 Ban his account if he violated, but let him make a new account.

01:26:00.000 I was missing Milo the other day.

01:26:02.000 So I dug up an old post.

01:26:03.000 I remembered of his and I tweeted it out.

01:26:05.000 It was titled like an update on my fame or something like that.

01:26:09.000 And it was just him talking about how he has like 300,000 followers and this many YouTube views and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.

01:26:13.000 But it really was a thoughtful piece on about why Independent media is very important, and it's not Milo that they're concerned about.

01:26:20.000 He even said it is the people that come after Milo that they're really worried about.

01:26:26.000 People that are free, emboldened, able to speak their mind, rabble-rousers, troublemakers, etc.

01:26:32.000 And this piece just cracked me up, so I dug it up from like 2016, tweeted it out the other day.

01:26:38.000 All the people that were with me from back then, they remember the nostalgia of the Milo Twitter days.

01:26:44.000 That's when I got on board Twitter, really.

01:26:46.000 It really was.

01:26:46.000 It was fun.

01:26:47.000 YouTube in 2006 was crazy.

01:26:48.000 Before Google bought them, you could say, Anything.

01:26:54.000 Dude, the bulletin board system I had in 1986, now that was badass.

01:26:59.000 We had two lines people could call in at the same time.

01:27:02.000 It was amazing.

01:27:03.000 Wow.

01:27:04.000 9600 baud, bro.

01:27:06.000 BBS, what year was that, dude?

01:27:08.000 Yeah, late 80s, early 90s.

01:27:08.000 90?

01:27:10.000 Wow.

01:27:11.000 Oh, sorry to interrupt.

01:27:13.000 Oh yeah, YouTube encouraged the anti-war movement in 2000.

01:27:16.000 Like, they were so on board.

01:27:17.000 Chad Hurley.

01:27:18.000 We should get Chad Hurley on the show.

01:27:19.000 Remember when Philip DeFranco hosted Gary Johnson?

01:27:22.000 No.

01:27:22.000 I think it was Gary Johnson, was it?

01:27:24.000 He did a big thing with YouTube election night where they had like Gary Johnson come in.

01:27:28.000 YouTube knew at that point like back then that they were an alternative space to the mainstream and they reveled in it.

01:27:34.000 Now YouTube is the mainstream and they're scared of losing the position so they're banning whoever whenever.

01:27:39.000 They did a big purge recently of what they called QAnon or conspiracy channels.

01:27:44.000 Not all of them were.

01:27:45.000 But they don't have the voice or the PR ability to do anything about it.

01:27:49.000 So smaller channels, smaller accounts are getting nuked every day.

01:27:55.000 They could ban someone who's moderately big, and then it creates a big uproar.

01:27:59.000 Then they go, okay, okay, oops, it was a mistake.

01:28:01.000 And then they keep doing the same thing.

01:28:03.000 They're just trying to avoid the controversy.

01:28:05.000 Yeah, I've been posting more videos to my YouTube channel.

01:28:08.000 It's been going well, but yet there's always this nagging thought in the back of my mind.

01:28:12.000 It's like, how much investment should I really put in this?

01:28:15.000 I am going all the way.

01:28:15.000 Go all the way.

01:28:16.000 I'm going full-blown Jack Murphy Live on YouTube.

01:28:20.000 It's a lot of fun, and the videos have been very well received.

01:28:23.000 Tim's audience has been tremendous in coming by.

01:28:26.000 Yeah, everybody loves you, man.

01:28:27.000 They all say, Tim sent me!

01:28:29.000 They love your beard, and they love Tom Segura.

01:28:32.000 We gotta get Jack and Tom Segura in the room.

01:28:35.000 They look so much alike.

01:28:36.000 Similar bone structure, their voices are similar.

01:28:39.000 Every other comment is about Tom Segura.

01:28:42.000 I have no idea who you are, dude, but everybody in Tim's comments thinks that we look alike.

01:28:45.000 Good friends.

01:28:48.000 Married to Christina P. They have Your Mom's House is their show. 1.00

01:28:52.000 Check out Your Mom's House on YouTube.

01:28:53.000 This is interesting about the Joe Rogan thing with the cancel culture stuff is that Spotify has an email that got leaked to BuzzFeed where they said, we're not going to take action against this channel because they hosted a guest on their own show.

01:29:07.000 You know, Spotify saying, we can't do anything about it.

01:29:09.000 And they said, sometimes people might actually want to flag violations of our community guidelines, but this show does not violate those guidelines.

01:29:15.000 So don't just flag things because of what you heard in the press.

01:29:19.000 Oh, so did the Alex Jones interview go out on Spotify?

01:29:23.000 Yeah, it went out on Spotify.

01:29:25.000 Well, I mean, you say, of course, but they like didn't load up the back catalog of those.

01:29:30.000 I guess Joe said that was because they were corrupted.

01:29:32.000 The files were corrupted, which I know it sounds really weird, right?

01:29:35.000 Especially episode 9-1-1.

01:29:39.000 The first Alex Jones episode was Joe Rogan 9-1-1.

01:29:43.000 I would love to go so deep on 9-1-1 because I have a lot of information about the conspiracies of 9-1-1.

01:29:53.000 I've read so much about it and I think the problem with online conspiracy stuff is that, and this is what I've said about Alex Jones, Imagine you have a big connect the dots puzzle picture, and there's like 10,000 dots, and if you connect them in the proper order, it's an elephant!

01:30:12.000 But if it's a bunch of random dots, and you start connecting them, you could draw an alligator.

01:30:16.000 A really crude one, but you'd be like, it was an alligator the whole time!

01:30:19.000 And it's like, no, look, they're the things.

01:30:20.000 You didn't connect the dots.

01:30:21.000 I don't know how much we're allowed to talk about 9-11 on YouTube and stay monetized.

01:30:26.000 None.

01:30:26.000 None at all.

01:30:26.000 I just don't at all.

01:30:27.000 Yeah, I never have.

01:30:28.000 Yeah, you bring it up, it's instant demonetization.

01:30:28.000 Not at all?

01:30:30.000 That's crazy.

01:30:30.000 Because they actually have a specific category for discussing modern acts of terror.

01:30:34.000 Yeah, and it's like it was the instigation for this entire war in the Middle East. 0.94

01:30:38.000 We're not talking about 9-11.

01:30:39.000 That's right.

01:30:40.000 I didn't even bring it up.

01:30:43.000 I worked there at ground zero.

01:30:46.000 Wow.

01:30:47.000 10 feet away from the pile.

01:30:48.000 I didn't walk up on it because I didn't have clearance.

01:30:50.000 Donald Trump was down there. He totally was. And there was like, yeah he was.

01:30:53.000 It's funny because they try and claim it's false I guess.

01:30:55.000 They do this thing with fact-checking where they're like, Donald Trump claims

01:30:59.000 that he was on the ground shortly after 9-11, you know, attacks occurred with

01:31:03.000 a big bucket of And then you're like, ah, wait, wait.

01:31:07.000 And there's a picture of him down there.

01:31:09.000 But then they're like, he actually wasn't there.

01:31:11.000 And it's like, there's a picture of him down there.

01:31:13.000 Right.

01:31:14.000 I don't know what the actual story is.

01:31:15.000 Like he was helping or something.

01:31:16.000 I don't know.

01:31:17.000 So Britney Spears came down. 1.00

01:31:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:31:18.000 So the official story on the Spotify not not migrating the older Alex Jones episodes was that the files were corrupted.

01:31:26.000 I think that's what Joe said.

01:31:27.000 And Gavin too.

01:31:29.000 I think Joe said the files were corrupted.

01:31:31.000 To be fair.

01:31:32.000 Um, there are often times that we stream and, like, for some reason the recording corrupts.

01:31:36.000 Yeah, dude.

01:31:37.000 And then we'll try to go to YouTube to download it and it's grayed out and I can't do anything about it.

01:31:37.000 It's annoying.

01:31:43.000 And then I'll try to, like, the video will play the full two hours.

01:31:47.000 And then I'll go to, like, one of these YouTube downloading sites and try and download it and it won't work.

01:31:51.000 So you know what I have to do?

01:31:53.000 I have to screen capture the whole show and let it play because it's there, the file's there.

01:31:57.000 It won't let me download it.

01:31:59.000 I'll say this.

01:32:00.000 It happens.

01:32:01.000 You know, we've had that problem.

01:32:02.000 You can tell because we've had a bunch of episodes that were like really low res because we had a recording error where for some reason it was not recording properly.

01:32:08.000 We had to fix it.

01:32:10.000 So it's true.

01:32:12.000 This could have happened to Joe.

01:32:13.000 The only issue is that it was like very specific people who like didn't make it.

01:32:18.000 But look, look, I think, I got sent an email from, actually a couple people were pointing out, that Joe Rogan's guest list, like all of a sudden Alex Jones disappeared from it, and they were like, it's Spotify, they're coming after him, and then he had Alex Jones on.

01:32:30.000 Right.

01:32:30.000 And now they're all mad about it, and he did what he was planning on doing, I don't know.

01:32:34.000 He's gonna host, he wants to host.

01:32:35.000 Maybe there were more corruptive files too, I didn't really get the full disclosure, where they're like ton, or like 30, 40, 50 episodes, and then Alex was one of them, and Gavin was one of them, I don't know.

01:32:45.000 I don't know, I think, I wonder if, you know, we had Enrique Tarjo on this show, and I was wondering, I was like, are they gonna ban me?

01:32:53.000 Are they gonna be like, oh no, he's plaffering these guys?

01:32:54.000 I'm like, I don't care, because, you know, look, I have my limits, I suppose.

01:32:58.000 I'm sure we'll find them when it happens.

01:33:01.000 But I think if someone's extremely relevant to the conversation, we talk to them about it.

01:33:05.000 And it was absurd to me that the journalists were saying, don't interview the Proud Boys.

01:33:09.000 I'm like, first of all, let me tell you something.

01:33:11.000 I'm an American.

01:33:13.000 You know what happens when you come to me and tell me not to do something?

01:33:17.000 There's this really great story.

01:33:17.000 Guess what?

01:33:19.000 Check it out.

01:33:23.000 Where some dude, his friend, put a Trump sign in his yard to mess with him because the guy was not super political.

01:33:31.000 And then, so the guy was just like, I don't feel like moving it.

01:33:35.000 My friend put it in to kind of screw with me.

01:33:37.000 Cause he knew like, Oh, you got your own flag.

01:33:39.000 But then the city came and we're like, take that flag that signed down.

01:33:42.000 And he was like, what?

01:33:44.000 So he put up like 30 of them.

01:33:45.000 He was like, you tell me what.

01:33:49.000 He said, I never cared what sign in the first place, but you come to me and tell me what to do.

01:33:51.000 And I'm going to do the opposite.

01:33:52.000 Look, Tim, I want to give you kudos, man.

01:33:54.000 I think it's a great idea to have people on from both sides of the aisle.

01:33:57.000 I think it's great idea to have people on that are don't agree with you.

01:34:01.000 I think it is an intellectual necessity to ask, inquire, and try to understand people who think differently than you do.

01:34:09.000 So, good for you, dude.

01:34:11.000 I really appreciate that. 0.99

01:34:12.000 And the other thing too is, if you think you don't need to hear the other side's arguments, And you're the douchebag. 0.98

01:34:19.000 That's arrogant, dude, because I tell you this. 0.88

01:34:21.000 I think it's true that the left's got some things right, the right's got some things right.

01:34:25.000 Right now, I just think the left has got most of it wrong.

01:34:27.000 And so it changes.

01:34:29.000 I remember back during Occupy when, like I mentioned the story about the cops throwing the National Lawyers Guild against the car.

01:34:34.000 In that instance, the National Lawyers Guild guy was innocent.

01:34:37.000 The cops were seriously violating his rights.

01:34:38.000 I've seen stuff like that happen before.

01:34:40.000 Today, the National Lawyers Guild is overtly defending one ideology that are targeting the police and throwing bricks and molotovs.

01:34:46.000 And it's like, I hear from a lot of journalists, they're like, you know, I have friends who are still reporting and they're like, the cops are still doing these things.

01:34:53.000 And I'm like, dude, you can't for 40, you know, for 50 nights, I think it was 30, 36 or 38 when they kept going to the federal court building and breaking in.

01:35:01.000 And then complain the cops are arresting you and trying to clear the area.

01:35:05.000 If you're walking down the street on a night of protest and the cops arrest you, by all means, I respect your right to complain, depending on the circumstances.

01:35:13.000 But after 38 nights and you bring a blowtorch to cut a lock, you're like, but the police are trying to arrest journalists now.

01:35:19.000 Or are they just like, it's been 38 nights and we've got to put an end to this?

01:35:23.000 There are limits.

01:35:24.000 There's reasonable limits or whatever.

01:35:28.000 But I think things change.

01:35:30.000 You know, the early 90s cancel culture was very much a right-wing thing, you know, shutting down the rappers, explicit labels and all that stuff.

01:35:37.000 And we talked about the religious moral authoritarians and now it's the left.

01:35:43.000 And for me, it's like, if you don't listen to this other side, I think it's a fear thing that you might actually find out that your worldview has holes in it.

01:35:54.000 Totally.

01:35:55.000 Or you'll get rewired or something.

01:35:57.000 You're teaching the kids bad information.

01:36:00.000 There are certainly things that, like, you know, we could bring in someone that could say something really, really awful for sure.

01:36:05.000 But, I mean, look, you gotta have mental... In a charismatic way.

01:36:07.000 You have to have mental fortitude.

01:36:08.000 Right.

01:36:09.000 And so I'll say this.

01:36:10.000 If you have blind spots, you need someone to, you know, challenge you so you can figure out what those are.

01:36:17.000 And also, you need to know your enemy.

01:36:18.000 Not that people on the other side of the aisle are your enemy, but it's like Sun Tzu art of war stuff.

01:36:21.000 Know thy enemy.

01:36:22.000 argument from your opponent and go after it as opposed to a straw man which can

01:36:25.000 knock down very easily. And also you need to know your enemy not that people on

01:36:29.000 the other side of the aisle are your enemy but it's like Sun Tzu art of war

01:36:31.000 stuff know thy enemy if you want to win a war you got to know what they think, how they think, where they are, what

01:36:37.000 they're gonna do. And I'll say one more thing imagine you're like lifting weights you're trying to get

01:36:41.000 ripped and you're like I'm gonna use smaller weights today

01:36:45.000 That'll help.

01:36:45.000 It won't.

01:36:46.000 It won't.

01:36:47.000 Talking to the same people, the same opinions, and never being challenged is like trying to lift weights, but you're going smaller instead of bigger.

01:36:53.000 Yeah.

01:36:54.000 Bring on those challenges.

01:36:55.000 Again, kudos for that.

01:36:56.000 I've tried to do the same.

01:36:58.000 I invited a Democrat onto my show.

01:37:00.000 And we had the interview and it was fantastic and I was really excited to release it

01:37:05.000 it was a different perspective from mine, but we found some common ground and

01:37:09.000 I got a phone call from him panicked later and he's like dude, you can't release it. Don't release it

01:37:15.000 Don't release it because he was afraid that the people around him in his universe

01:37:20.000 Were going to whatever cancel him for appearing on my I didn't know it was the right way

01:37:26.000 Did you release it?

01:37:27.000 No, I did not release it.

01:37:28.000 I'm itching to release it because it's so good.

01:37:31.000 I think you're obligated to release it.

01:37:32.000 I don't think so.

01:37:34.000 How do I disrespect my guests like that?

01:37:36.000 I can't.

01:37:37.000 I think I have a different perspective from you.

01:37:40.000 If I brought someone in here, they were like, I want to be on your show.

01:37:43.000 I'll do your show.

01:37:44.000 And then later we're like, no, no, no, no.

01:37:45.000 I'll be like, no, no, no, dude.

01:37:47.000 I dedicated my time to you.

01:37:49.000 I made you guarantees.

01:37:50.000 I gave you a space.

01:37:51.000 You got scared later.

01:37:51.000 You spoke.

01:37:53.000 You can't put me out like that.

01:37:55.000 I feel that.

01:37:56.000 I read the book.

01:37:57.000 I spent 15 hours prep.

01:37:59.000 I was very detailed.

01:38:00.000 And you don't know if anything's actually going to happen.

01:38:02.000 I know.

01:38:02.000 He's just freaking out and it's not fair to you.

01:38:05.000 Like there's two pieces of this equation.

01:38:06.000 I agree.

01:38:07.000 But I also want to invite, I want to be able to invite other people on the show too.

01:38:07.000 I agree.

01:38:11.000 So what's the argument then?

01:38:12.000 Like some guy says, I once, you know, did you invite him or did he?

01:38:16.000 I invited him.

01:38:16.000 So I was once invited to a show I agreed to be on and spent time on and then later regretted doing it and he published it.

01:38:21.000 People are going to be like, then just don't, don't go on the show.

01:38:24.000 Yeah.

01:38:25.000 I don't know.

01:38:26.000 Maybe it's just the pleasure.

01:38:27.000 I mean, we're live.

01:38:28.000 So I mean, like once you're in the chair, you're in the chair and everybody can see, you know, this is something that I talked about with friends and advisors.

01:38:34.000 Like, should I release it?

01:38:35.000 Should I release it?

01:38:36.000 And you know, what they said to me was like, look, you know, you want to be able to invite other people on the show.

01:38:42.000 You want people to know that you treat them fairly.

01:38:44.000 You want to be respectful to these other people.

01:38:46.000 Yes.

01:38:46.000 It was disrespectful to me.

01:38:48.000 It wasted a lot of my time and energy.

01:38:50.000 But you have an agreement and you didn't change the terms of that agreement.

01:38:52.000 I did not.

01:38:53.000 And it also just feeds into this culture, right?

01:38:57.000 It just feeds into this fearful culture.

01:38:59.000 We could have been an example of how to have communication across the aisle in a productive way and find common ground.

01:39:07.000 I think finding the common ground might have been the part that scared him the most.

01:39:10.000 I think you're obligated to put it up.

01:39:12.000 I think you should talk to him and get him to agree to put it up.

01:39:16.000 I tried to stop him.

01:39:18.000 I take offense to that.

01:39:19.000 You don't have to.

01:39:21.000 He already agreed to do your show.

01:39:23.000 He did your show.

01:39:24.000 And you did work and took time out of your life to get it done.

01:39:27.000 And now he's coming back to you with regret saying, no, don't?

01:39:29.000 No, no, no.

01:39:30.000 The agreement was made.

01:39:31.000 The conditions were met.

01:39:32.000 We did it.

01:39:33.000 It's done.

01:39:33.000 It's going up.

01:39:34.000 You can't, after all of that, like imagine someone comes to you and says, I want you

01:39:38.000 to spend, you know, a week building me a dog house.

01:39:40.000 And then as soon as you do it, they walk up and say, nah, I'm going to knock it over and

01:39:43.000 destroy it.

01:39:44.000 You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:39:45.000 Tim's bullying me into releasing this podcast.

01:39:47.000 Listen, listen, imagine a culture where every single time you did an interview afterwards,

01:39:52.000 they went, no.

01:39:53.000 Yeah.

01:39:54.000 This would be like a kind of protest sit-in where they would be like, Hey, Jack, I'll come on your show.

01:39:58.000 They'll do it and say, now don't release it because I don't want you to.

01:40:01.000 Right.

01:40:01.000 You know, my mistake was that I sat on it.

01:40:03.000 It was, I recorded it like two days before COVID, like before the NBA games got called and all that.

01:40:09.000 So like, like the conversation in the world just changed.

01:40:12.000 And you know, so we were just like, I'm just like, all right, let me just wait to the right time.

01:40:15.000 Well, maybe it's irrelevant now.

01:40:17.000 Oh, no.

01:40:17.000 No, it's an evergreen issue.

01:40:20.000 I once was standing on the street in Berkeley and I was filming.

01:40:24.000 I have a GoPro and a gimbal that I would, you know, walk around.

01:40:26.000 It was a really cool thing.

01:40:27.000 Great, great steady shot.

01:40:29.000 And I was talking about what was going on when all of a sudden this woman started just interrupting me because I was saying things like, so I'm here, you know, Berkeley.

01:40:37.000 We just saw a bunch of Trump supporters.

01:40:38.000 And then she started talking and started saying things.

01:40:41.000 And so then I, holding the camera, I turned and faced her and she kept going.

01:40:44.000 And then I interviewed her for several minutes.

01:40:47.000 What?

01:40:47.000 And then she noticed the camera and she kept going and I was like asking her questions and all that stuff.

01:40:51.000 She said something about like, the Trump supporters deserve to get hit because they're 0.97

01:40:56.000 coming here and they know what to expect. 0.95

01:40:58.000 And then I said, so that's kind of like saying the woman deserved it because she was wearing a skimpy outfit. 1.00

01:41:02.000 And then she like agreed in some way. The video's up on my channel.

01:41:06.000 And then after I was like, after we finished talking, I walked away.

01:41:11.000 She came up to me and she goes, don't use any of that.

01:41:14.000 And I was like, don't use any of what?

01:41:15.000 And she's like, you were filming me when I was talking.

01:41:16.000 And I was like, yes, I'm standing on a public street.

01:41:19.000 I was talking.

01:41:19.000 You interrupted me.

01:41:20.000 You started saying things.

01:41:22.000 I asked you questions.

01:41:23.000 Now you don't want me to use it.

01:41:24.000 I was like, you interrupted me.

01:41:25.000 And she was like, no, but you can't.

01:41:27.000 And for obvious reasons, she was going to get annihilated.

01:41:30.000 I blurred her face, but I used it.

01:41:32.000 That's her. 0.88

01:41:33.000 Yeah.

01:41:33.000 I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to destroy someone's life, but.

01:41:36.000 That was a compromise that I did not need to make.

01:41:38.000 If you come up to me on the public street and interrupt me while I'm filming, I could just use it.

01:41:43.000 But I wanted to be nice, I didn't want to create any problems, so I blurred her face and then let it ride.

01:41:47.000 In this instance, however, I was like, if someone agreed and said, I'm gonna come and do an interview, and then later was like, please don't publish it, you know what?

01:41:53.000 I actually had this happen.

01:41:54.000 I did an interview with a guy who said he was a former Hezbollah, and he, I mean, this was in Sweden, he had scars, and he talked about a lot of crazy things. 0.71

01:42:04.000 And then afterwards it was edited and went live and then he asked me to take it down.

01:42:09.000 I said, no.

01:42:11.000 And he was like, you don't understand.

01:42:12.000 It's going to put people in danger.

01:42:12.000 I'm like, bro, it's, it's up.

01:42:13.000 It's done.

01:42:14.000 I was like, you did the interview.

01:42:15.000 We, we, we, we just put it up.

01:42:17.000 It's done.

01:42:17.000 It's over.

01:42:18.000 All right.

01:42:18.000 I'm going to give this some thought.

01:42:19.000 I mean, people have gone through my podcast list and there's, I left a gap.

01:42:24.000 It goes number 29 to number 31.

01:42:26.000 So it's there.

01:42:28.000 I do have a thought, if I may, before we go to Super Chats, which we are going to do, I think, in a minute.

01:42:33.000 I think what might happen if you end up not going through with this and not putting up this podcast is that people will use it to stall you out.

01:42:40.000 If they don't like you, they're going to be like, I'm going to take this man's time.

01:42:42.000 I'm going to waste his time, man.

01:42:44.000 It's like a sit-in.

01:42:45.000 Yeah, I don't like it.

01:42:46.000 Like, what's the point of that?

01:42:47.000 Yeah, so I do them all.

01:42:48.000 Tim, Tim, Cass, IRL Inspired.

01:42:51.000 I do them all live on YouTube now.

01:42:53.000 Heck yeah, man.

01:42:53.000 Oh, cool.

01:42:54.000 That's awesome.

01:42:55.000 Well, Super Chats, man.

01:42:56.000 I love the Super Chats.

01:42:58.000 Well, when you do it live, you get, you know, actual... It's amazing.

01:43:00.000 I love it.

01:43:02.000 I'm just going to ask this question right now, because it's right in front of me.

01:43:06.000 Jack Coyle says, what is your opinion on the Killdozer incident?

01:43:09.000 Oh snap.

01:43:09.000 Killdozer?

01:43:10.000 So cool.

01:43:11.000 You guys don't remember Killdozer?

01:43:13.000 I know the term, but I couldn't... So some guy, right?

01:43:16.000 I'm going to give you the... I barely remember the story.

01:43:19.000 Oh man.

01:43:19.000 Some guy had like his own business.

01:43:21.000 I forgot what it was.

01:43:22.000 And then the city says, we're going to start building this thing next to your business.

01:43:26.000 And it shut down the road.

01:43:28.000 He complained, saying, like, you're destroying my business. 0.97

01:43:30.000 And they said, screw yourself.

01:43:32.000 And so he built the Killdozer, which was this giant bulldozer, armored.

01:43:38.000 And then he started driving around rampaging.

01:43:40.000 I think he destroyed the dude's house.

01:43:42.000 And they were shooting it.

01:43:43.000 They couldn't do it.

01:43:44.000 They couldn't penetrate it.

01:43:45.000 They couldn't stop him.

01:43:46.000 And then he ended up getting... What's up?

01:43:48.000 He's peeing in the corner.

01:43:49.000 Sorry.

01:43:50.000 The cat?

01:43:50.000 The cat's peeing in the corner.

01:43:51.000 I'm afraid.

01:43:53.000 Throw the Antifa water bottle.

01:43:54.000 Oh, it's a protest.

01:43:55.000 It's an Antifa protest now.

01:43:56.000 I had to use the Antifa cat.

01:44:00.000 I can't believe he did that whilst telling the Killdallzers story.

01:44:02.000 That was really intense.

01:44:03.000 Oh man, okay.

01:44:04.000 Let's try this again.

01:44:06.000 We gotta get the spritz bottle.

01:44:07.000 Yeah, we do.

01:44:08.000 I was like, I don't have a spritz.

01:44:09.000 You know why he's doing it?

01:44:10.000 It's because it's getting close to dinner time for him, and he's pressing his luck.

01:44:13.000 He knows that it forces us to get up and go after him. 1.00

01:44:16.000 Fucker, you son of a... Son of a biscuit. 1.00

01:44:18.000 Son of a biscuit.

01:44:18.000 Anyway, the dude ended up falling into a basement, I guess, and getting trapped.

01:44:22.000 In the Killdozer.

01:44:24.000 Yeah, I think he may have killed himself.

01:44:25.000 Here's a story if you want to read it.

01:44:26.000 Wow.

01:44:27.000 Yeah.

01:44:27.000 Crazy story, guys.

01:44:28.000 Alright, here we go, here we go, here we go.

01:44:29.000 Check it out.

01:44:31.000 Summary.

01:44:32.000 Marvin John Heemeyer was an American welder and an automobile muffler repair shop owner who demolished numerous buildings with a modified bulldozer in Granby, Colorado on June 4th, 2004.

01:44:42.000 Colorado, man.

01:44:43.000 Yeah.

01:44:43.000 Heemeyer had feuded with Granby town officials, particularly over fines for violating city health ordinances, when he chose to improperly dump sewage from his business instead of connecting to the city's sewer system.

01:44:54.000 His feud came to a head on June 4th, 2004.

01:44:56.000 Over about 18 months, Heemeyer had secretly modified a Komatsu D-355A bulldozer by adding layers of steel and concrete, intended to serve as armor.

01:45:08.000 He used this to demolish Granby Town Hall, the former mayor's house, and several other buildings.

01:45:15.000 Heemeyer's rampage concluded with his suicide, after his bulldozer became trapped in the basement of a hardware store he had been in the process of destroying.

01:45:23.000 So it was a zoning dispute.

01:45:25.000 They say that he purchased two acres of land.

01:45:28.000 The federal agency organized to handle the assets of the failed Savings and Loan Associations for $42,000 to build a muffler shop.

01:45:35.000 He subsequently agreed to sell the land to Cody Docheff to build a concrete batch plant.

01:45:40.000 According to Susan Docheff, Heemeyer changed his mind and increased the price, then a deal with approximately a million dollars.

01:45:47.000 Some believe that this negotiation happened before the rezoning proposal.

01:45:50.000 In 2001, Granby's zoning commission and trustees approved the construction of the concrete plant.

01:45:54.000 Heemeyer unsuccessfully appealed the decision.

01:45:57.000 Claiming the construction blocked access to his shop, he was subsequently fined $2,500 by the town council and a city judge for various violations, including not being hooked up to the sewer line, so it looks like the initial framing was wrong.

01:46:11.000 He had initially been unable to connect to the new sewer line as the line ran 60 feet away from his property and the city expected him to pay the nearly $80,000 cost of laying the connector.

01:46:22.000 After the concrete plant was built, the City Council denied him the easement necessary to join to the new line underneath.

01:46:28.000 So...

01:46:30.000 I recommend Count Dankula's video.

01:46:32.000 Oh, he's got a video on it.

01:46:33.000 A mad lad. 0.97

01:46:33.000 Killdozer. 0.97

01:46:34.000 Oh, man.

01:46:35.000 We were supposed to be doing super chats, but... Anyway, yes, that was a strong start.

01:46:38.000 So, yeah, he went on a rampage because... Well, I think he agreed to something that he took his agreement, reneged on the agreement afterwards, just like your guests.

01:46:48.000 Kind of a... Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, yeah.

01:46:50.000 Don't renege.

01:46:50.000 ...example of why not to make an agreement and then take it back.

01:46:53.000 The other cat's coming for their turn now.

01:46:55.000 She's chased him out of here.

01:46:58.000 All right, I'll read some of these superchats.

01:47:00.000 Let's see, we got David Merwin says, Tim, you rock.

01:47:03.000 Thank you.

01:47:04.000 Fractal says, please get Alex Jones on your show.

01:47:06.000 That would be incredible.

01:47:07.000 He's actually been coming up a lot lately.

01:47:08.000 We might, we might.

01:47:09.000 Talking to his producer.

01:47:11.000 I don't know if it's gonna happen.

01:47:12.000 But I was like, when I saw so we had we had Vaush on.

01:47:16.000 I had a bunch of right wing people being like, How dare you?

01:47:19.000 And we got, I think, 15% thumbs down from people.

01:47:21.000 Because most people who watch the show are like, you know, chill and willing to hear.

01:47:26.000 But some people didn't like it.

01:47:27.000 And I respect it.

01:47:28.000 You don't have to like it.

01:47:28.000 It's fine.

01:47:29.000 But a lot of people were tweeting at me saying things like, how dare you?

01:47:31.000 And stuff like that.

01:47:33.000 So that happened.

01:47:33.000 And I don't care.

01:47:34.000 But then I saw what was happening with Alex Jones.

01:47:36.000 And I'm like, isn't that so funny?

01:47:37.000 You know?

01:47:37.000 It's like, not like we're as big as Rogan or anything.

01:47:39.000 But Rogan gets attacked by the left for Jones.

01:47:42.000 And I get flack from the right for Vosh. 0.87

01:47:44.000 I thought it was hilarious.

01:47:45.000 I was like, bring it on, Alex.

01:47:46.000 Come on the show.

01:47:47.000 Just come on in.

01:47:48.000 We're gonna go with it.

01:47:50.000 And then it might actually happen. 0.79

01:47:52.000 Sick.

01:47:52.000 I don't know when or whatever.

01:47:54.000 Do it.

01:47:54.000 I hope so.

01:47:55.000 Election night.

01:47:57.000 I wish.

01:47:58.000 That would have been awesome if he was here.

01:48:00.000 Alex, special appearance.

01:48:02.000 He's far away.

01:48:03.000 He's gotta do his own show.

01:48:04.000 Yeah, sorry.

01:48:04.000 It'd be so funny if he just popped in.

01:48:06.000 It'd be really fun.

01:48:08.000 Kiernoth says, thanks for the podcast.

01:48:09.000 Would have been great to have Jack Murphy on for yesterday's show.

01:48:12.000 True.

01:48:13.000 I like Jack.

01:48:14.000 You want to, you want to, you want to debate an Antifa?

01:48:16.000 That'd be fun.

01:48:16.000 We should.

01:48:17.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:48:19.000 I mean, Vosh is not the colloquial understanding of Antifa.

01:48:23.000 You know what I mean?

01:48:24.000 So I don't want to say, you know, he's Antifa.

01:48:26.000 Did he come in with the pink gas mask on?

01:48:28.000 Because that is that is all black at a water bottle.

01:48:30.000 He was lurking around and we're like, Vosch.

01:48:33.000 He was like, you got me.

01:48:34.000 No, no, he came like a normal guy with normal clothes.

01:48:37.000 I think it's silly how apprehensive people are about like, oh, no, he has other opinions.

01:48:43.000 He's like a political philosopher that makes- he talked about like child porn and was like, okay, people ignore the child slavery in Africa where they're mining rare earth minerals to make our cell phones and stuff. 0.55

01:48:54.000 And he was like, okay, if you're going to turn a blind eye to that, then child porn should be fine. 0.73

01:48:58.000 You're going to exploit children in that venue, and I'll exploit children in this venue? 0.55

01:49:01.000 What's the difference?

01:49:02.000 I'll put it this way.

01:49:03.000 I explained that kind of poorly.

01:49:05.000 They put up a clip video where he's only saying the last part, like, this should be moral and acceptable.

01:49:10.000 And his explanation was, he was basically saying, the child exploitation of kids in mines is as bad.

01:49:18.000 And, you know, so like, why are we okay with reaping the benefits of this?

01:49:22.000 And then all of a sudden, these people started sharing the clips and there's no contextual defense of this.

01:49:26.000 I didn't see the video.

01:49:27.000 I didn't watch his stream, so I'm not saying that to defend him.

01:49:29.000 I'm just saying that's what his explanation was.

01:49:30.000 He's a philosopher.

01:49:31.000 He really is.

01:49:32.000 And philosophers get a lot of... They killed Socrates because he would make crazy... I'm sure. 0.81

01:49:37.000 That's just what philosophy is. 0.95

01:49:38.000 You make crazy... Continue.

01:49:39.000 I'm just saying, the dude has difference of opinions. 0.96

01:49:43.000 I'm more than happy to have people, you know, come here and give them... I would love a chance to have a conversation where the other guy can't leave.

01:49:49.000 Yes!

01:49:49.000 Do it.

01:49:50.000 Or hit me with a brick. 1.00

01:49:51.000 Yeah, man.

01:49:51.000 So I got a bunch of people saying that your mic is bad, your mic is bad.

01:49:54.000 I think we've got it.

01:49:55.000 We did.

01:49:56.000 We got it.

01:49:57.000 Uh, Barney Boyle says, I don't resent Vaush because of different views.

01:49:59.000 I resent that he, as you revealed, lives in an echo chamber and condescends people who are better informed than him.

01:50:05.000 Well, wasn't it fantastic that we got him out of his echo chamber and had a conversation with him?

01:50:08.000 And he acknowledged he's in an echo chamber.

01:50:09.000 He's like, I'm in some far-left circles, man.

01:50:12.000 And the truth is, we're in an echo chamber, too, if all of our guests are always of similar, you know, way of thinking.

01:50:16.000 That's why we brought him in, man.

01:50:17.000 Hey, I voted for Obama.

01:50:19.000 Me, too.

01:50:19.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:50:20.000 But it's like, you know, you know, you know, we have a lot of, we have a lot of former liberals and we have a lot of conservatives.

01:50:25.000 Yeah.

01:50:25.000 And it's like, we all easily get along.

01:50:27.000 The funny thing is, 20 years ago, it would have been like, wow, can you believe they're bringing on the left and the right?

01:50:32.000 It's like crossfire.

01:50:33.000 Now it's like, we all kind of mostly agree, you know?

01:50:35.000 Yeah.

01:50:36.000 Well, it is the cool kids club.

01:50:37.000 That's correct.

01:50:37.000 Yeah.

01:50:38.000 The coolest kids.

01:50:40.000 Out here at the ComboCast.

01:50:41.000 That's right, ComboCast land.

01:50:43.000 Yeah, man.

01:50:45.000 That's a requirement.

01:50:46.000 Magic is coming up next.

01:50:47.000 Sure is.

01:50:47.000 Yeah.

01:50:48.000 I brought a deck.

01:50:49.000 Is that what you call it?

01:50:50.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:50:51.000 You ever played D&D?

01:50:52.000 Oh, yes, back in the day.

01:50:53.000 Yeah, Vash is a DM.

01:50:54.000 Oh, never mind.

01:50:55.000 I hate D&D.

01:50:56.000 Oh! 0.60

01:50:57.000 If Antifa likes it.

01:50:58.000 I know.

01:50:59.000 So, Javi J says, when you move your van down by the river, make sure you start a fishing journal.

01:51:03.000 Need to know what and when they are biting.

01:51:06.000 Let's see.

01:51:08.000 There's a lesson in that comment, actually.

01:51:09.000 I remember the video that you made when you're like, it was literally down in the forest.

01:51:14.000 You're like, I'm over all this.

01:51:16.000 I'm going to do this.

01:51:16.000 I'm going to do that.

01:51:18.000 If you did actually do that, you may have an uncontrollable urge to express yourself.

01:51:24.000 It would just be about the environment that you're in.

01:51:26.000 I'd be making a video and I'd be like, everybody today, I was down.

01:51:30.000 You're not going to believe this.

01:51:31.000 This is crazy.

01:51:31.000 There was a fish.

01:51:32.000 Can you believe these fish and this one fish?

01:51:35.000 Get out of here.

01:51:36.000 And then a beaver shows up.

01:51:39.000 I once saw beavers in Chicago.

01:51:40.000 It was the craziest thing.

01:51:41.000 By Lake Michigan.

01:51:42.000 Oh, really?

01:51:42.000 Yeah, and it's like the lakefront is fake.

01:51:45.000 It's fake sand and it's concrete.

01:51:47.000 So I was in an area by, there's like this golf thing and it was concrete and there were just beavers walking along the edge of the concrete.

01:51:52.000 And I was like, what are those beavers doing here?

01:51:53.000 I guess they live there.

01:51:54.000 I spent 20 seconds watching a beaver eat lettuce on Twitter yesterday.

01:51:58.000 Dude.

01:51:58.000 It was really good.

01:52:01.000 Excellent use of time.

01:52:03.000 Look it up.

01:52:03.000 It's high quality.

01:52:05.000 I'll look it up, man.

01:52:06.000 I can't believe I just admitted that.

01:52:10.000 I'm glad you did.

01:52:11.000 Johan Oldman says, Tim, you should have Vosh on again, but this time with James Lindsay, too.

01:52:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:52:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:52:18.000 Has James been up here?

01:52:19.000 Someday.

01:52:20.000 No.

01:52:20.000 But I mean, he's a good guy.

01:52:22.000 Great guy.

01:52:23.000 He did a spot on my show a while back before the book came out.

01:52:25.000 Not fair.

01:52:26.000 Great guy.

01:52:26.000 First of all, not fair.

01:52:28.000 All right.

01:52:28.000 I've had some good guests.

01:52:29.000 Brian Barton says, I'm from Eastern PA.

01:52:31.000 We have always been Trump, except Philly.

01:52:33.000 There is Trump rallies every week on the Susquehanna Bridge.

01:52:37.000 Is that how you pronounce it?

01:52:38.000 In Lancaster.

01:52:39.000 Susquehanna?

01:52:39.000 I'm sorry, Lancaster.

01:52:40.000 Is that Lancaster?

01:52:41.000 Lancaster.

01:52:41.000 There you go.

01:52:42.000 The Lehigh Valley has been and will continue to be a key component to Trump's reelection.

01:52:48.000 It was a key component in 2016.

01:52:50.000 That's why I went there, interviewed people in there.

01:52:52.000 Lehigh Valley, we're counting on you.

01:52:54.000 Get out the vote.

01:52:55.000 This is cool.

01:52:56.000 Big Megatech says, Hey, Tim, there's a flash game called We Are What We Behold, where you act as the news in a world of circle people and square people.

01:53:05.000 You play the game by inciting violence between the two factions.

01:53:07.000 You think reality sometimes parodies fiction.

01:53:10.000 Interesting.

01:53:11.000 You sell them the guns and then you... Jack.

01:53:14.000 You fund the people rebuilding.

01:53:16.000 Acoustic Theory says, cop-chopters.

01:53:18.000 Cop-chopters! 1.00

01:53:21.000 Yes!

01:53:21.000 Thank you for that super chat.

01:53:22.000 Best super chat ever.

01:53:23.000 Cop-chopters. 0.99

01:53:23.000 Yeah, man. 0.99

01:53:24.000 Cop-chopters. 0.99

01:53:25.000 Let's get started.

01:53:26.000 Aaron Freeman says, have you seen the Decade of Health video played on Channel 4 in UK?

01:53:30.000 Has Bill Gates Foundation in the credits?

01:53:32.000 It's the Great Reset Agenda 2030 right here.

01:53:34.000 Really, really creepy.

01:53:35.000 Interesting.

01:53:35.000 What's it called?

01:53:37.000 Cool.

01:53:37.000 I'll look it up.

01:53:38.000 Never!

01:53:38.000 Why would I dye it like this?

01:53:39.000 That's fair.

01:53:40.000 Aquatic says how often does Jack dye his beard? Never why would I dye it like this?

01:53:44.000 When did it become that color so one night I woke up and boom it was there I swear to God it happened overnight

01:53:51.000 I see pictures and it's all red and brown just like the front one day BAM

01:53:55.000 Dude, that's epic!

01:53:56.000 But wait, like, doesn't the hair have to, like, go somewhere?

01:53:58.000 I don't know what happened.

01:53:59.000 It really, it really happened.

01:54:00.000 Did you see a ghost?

01:54:01.000 Very quickly.

01:54:02.000 Yes.

01:54:02.000 And it hasn't progressed at all.

01:54:05.000 Just stayed just like this.

01:54:06.000 Something about the consciousness, like the vibration of what we are.

01:54:09.000 When you're living your honest self, you become, like, really in tune with the matrix and it's, like, creating a physical manifestation of it.

01:54:17.000 Absolutely what Ian said.

01:54:18.000 Yes, exactly.

01:54:19.000 Lemon Dropcake says, please invite Laura Loomer.

01:54:22.000 She has been deplatformed more than any of your past guests.

01:54:25.000 Thanks for your video about her and her campaign.

01:54:27.000 This is what I said on Twitter.

01:54:30.000 And I'm not saying this to be disrespectful, relevant to the current conversation.

01:54:34.000 So it's like, there's a ton of people I could invite.

01:54:37.000 You know, people are mentioning some America First people like the Gropers and stuff. 0.99

01:54:40.000 And I'm like, I'm not trying to be disrespectful.

01:54:43.000 I'm just saying, you know, the people we invite like Enrique Tarrio was because it just came up in the news and we're like, we got to get this guy.

01:54:48.000 But that being said, I'm not saying no to these people.

01:54:50.000 Definitely.

01:54:51.000 I, I think Laura Loomer is particularly relevant right now, uh, especially with her campaign because Donald Trump just voted for her.

01:54:57.000 I mean, that blew my mind.

01:54:59.000 I mean, look, I, I met Laura when she had like 1500 followers was working for, for James.

01:55:05.000 Uh, up in New York at Project Veritas and she was itching to get out there and go big and do things.

01:55:10.000 And just four years later, massive four years later, she's in the situation where she's so punk rock now, like by hijacking the system that she's got actually has Donald Trump literally voting for her, literally voting for her to go to Congress.

01:55:26.000 That is incredible.

01:55:28.000 To be fair, we don't know for sure, but straight Republican.

01:55:31.000 I don't remember the name exactly.

01:55:32.000 Oh, I don't know about that.

01:55:33.000 Populism.

01:55:33.000 So there it is Trump just and if what what county is in was Trump in what district was that?

01:55:38.000 I don't remember the I don't but it includes Broward doesn't it's not good. It's not gonna go red. Oh, maybe

01:55:44.000 Maybe populism. Yeah All right, here we go

01:55:50.000 What is this?

01:55:51.000 Foxcoon says, Tucker just tweeted, damning Hunter Biden documents suddenly vanish.

01:55:56.000 That's what I heard.

01:55:58.000 I haven't, I haven't been able to confirm that.

01:55:59.000 So I didn't say anything.

01:56:01.000 Okay, let me see what I can find.

01:56:03.000 Isaac and Baraka says, Jack, good to see you on as always.

01:56:08.000 Love what you do.

01:56:08.000 Yesterday's live chat was more annoying than the guest.

01:56:11.000 As fans, we represent the work of the host.

01:56:13.000 I learned more about Vosch from his fans than from Vosch himself.

01:56:16.000 Interesting.

01:56:17.000 Interesting.

01:56:17.000 Yeah, you do have a real whole sort of community there in the comments, man.

01:56:21.000 It was so cool to see Vash's community and your community- Clashing.

01:56:25.000 Yeah, or like just- Melding.

01:56:26.000 I love it when they were like, he just owned Tim!

01:56:28.000 Oh, and there's videos popping up from the left Twitter where they're like, Tim Pool destroyed.

01:56:32.000 And it's like, the weird thing about all that is like, I'm welcoming these people in.

01:56:37.000 I'm not worried.

01:56:38.000 I, I, it's like I'm not approaching this like, Oh no, I, I've been defeated.

01:56:42.000 I'm just like, Oh, whatever.

01:56:44.000 I'm not smart.

01:56:44.000 I liked Vosh.

01:56:45.000 And now I liked Tim.

01:56:46.000 Like I'd see comments like that.

01:56:48.000 It was awesome.

01:56:49.000 You know, you know, it is most people, most regular people are just like, I disagree with this guy because people say to me all the time, they're like, Tim, I really disagree with you, but I think you do good work.

01:56:58.000 So I get that all the time.

01:56:59.000 So the background on, um, the Tucker thing is that he did just put a bit out.

01:57:03.000 I don't have a piece of like news for you, but we got a bit from him.

01:57:06.000 And then if you guys want to go look it up.

01:57:08.000 Do it.

01:57:09.000 Check it out.

01:57:09.000 I'm really curious.

01:57:10.000 Addicted2Drum says, interview Gavin McInnes, Tim.

01:57:13.000 Let him tell his story.

01:57:14.000 That'd be fun.

01:57:15.000 Maybe.

01:57:16.000 Like I said, we try to book the big... So, many people may have realized we have a couple different kinds of shows.

01:57:23.000 When Jack's here, it's kind of, we hang out and talk.

01:57:25.000 When Seamus is here, we kind of just hang out and talk.

01:57:26.000 Like, recurring guests coming and chilling.

01:57:28.000 And then we have, like, stronger interview guests.

01:57:32.000 Where, like, you and him talk, you and them talk, or whoever, he or she.

01:57:35.000 And I sit, I usually sit silent during those.

01:57:37.000 Well, it's kind of just because they get really, really serious and really intense, you know?

01:57:42.000 So like Enrique Tarrio, you know, he starts saying things and it's like, okay, this is like very, very heavy stuff.

01:57:48.000 And so we've only done a couple of these, but like the goal is... James O'Keefe was a good one.

01:57:51.000 Yeah, James O'Keefe, man.

01:57:52.000 That was great.

01:57:53.000 That was amazing.

01:57:54.000 And so, yeah, when we have these like, you know, big players are coming in and they're going to say things that are going to have actual weight on the political world.

01:58:00.000 Yeah.

01:58:01.000 And here I thought I was the serious one.

01:58:02.000 You are the serious one!

01:58:03.000 I'm the serious one!

01:58:04.000 kind of chill hangout guests who might show up and we just talk and you know do whatever.

01:58:08.000 So you know we'll see.

01:58:09.000 And here I thought I was the serious one.

01:58:10.000 You are the serious one.

01:58:11.000 You are the serious one.

01:58:12.000 There's, oh here we go.

01:58:15.000 Take video says Kyle Kalinsky would be a great guest.

01:58:17.000 Oh yeah.

01:58:18.000 Definitely.

01:58:19.000 Definitely.

01:58:20.000 Kyle would be fantastic.

01:58:21.000 Kyle's a good dude.

01:58:22.000 I love, his tweets are funny man.

01:58:23.000 I don't know if you saw like his tweets during the debates but I can't remember what he said. 0.98

01:58:25.000 It was something about Biden and then he posted that vaporwave meme and says, stab me in the balls with a pencil. 0.96

01:58:34.000 Like that's like the debate was awful. 0.99

01:58:36.000 Kyle's a good dude.

01:58:38.000 Matt Mitchell says, Tucker Carlson tweeted that a copy of their Hunter Biden documents were mysteriously stolen without a trace while they were in transit to him across the country.

01:58:46.000 It's getting spicy.

01:58:50.000 Oh yeah.

01:58:51.000 Torin Donowski says, I'm in Philly.

01:58:53.000 Get out of my city thing is like being at an Eagles game as an opposing fan.

01:58:57.000 The only response is, F off.

01:58:59.000 I live here.

01:58:59.000 You live in South Jersey.

01:59:00.000 Hysterical fanboy.

01:59:02.000 That reminds me.

01:59:03.000 Are you going to leave the city?

01:59:05.000 I am definitely leaving the city.

01:59:07.000 I've lived in Washington, D.C.

01:59:09.000 30 years.

01:59:09.000 I literally built the city, built buildings, built schools, built institutions.

01:59:14.000 My kids were born there, went to school there.

01:59:16.000 My only hometown.

01:59:17.000 The only tattoo I ever considered was a D.C.

01:59:19.000 flag.

01:59:20.000 And now I'm done.

01:59:21.000 I'm out.

01:59:21.000 Peace out.

01:59:23.000 Houses around here.

01:59:24.000 Hopefully we buy one of them.

01:59:26.000 Undisclosed combo castle location.

01:59:28.000 Correct.

01:59:29.000 Pauly V says, Tim, did you see the bill introduced in Scotland that talks about hate speech around the table must be prosecuted?

01:59:36.000 That's pretty crazy.

01:59:37.000 Wait, what?

01:59:37.000 That's creepy.

01:59:38.000 Yeah.

01:59:39.000 Grandpa said a racist thing.

01:59:40.000 Call the police.

01:59:42.000 Carlos Cruz says the problem isn't the attachment of their ego to a certain framework, but instead their attachment of the idea of an ego.

01:59:48.000 Hmm.

01:59:50.000 XXXYYY says, Voting for Trump is akin to me being a huge Marilyn Manson fan in the 90s or 2000s.

01:59:57.000 Listened to Manson's speeches from his concerts.

01:59:59.000 Same energy.

02:00:00.000 Same media hatred.

02:00:01.000 Moral panic.

02:00:02.000 Deplorables in society.

02:00:04.000 The right protested me then.

02:00:06.000 Free speech.

02:00:06.000 Left protests me now.

02:00:08.000 That's funny.

02:00:09.000 Marilyn Manson fans for Trump.

02:00:11.000 Yep, definitely.

02:00:11.000 He's a big two-way guy.

02:00:13.000 He is.

02:00:13.000 Oh man, we gotta get him on then.

02:00:15.000 Can I come that day?

02:00:16.000 Yeah, of course.

02:00:17.000 All right, sweet.

02:00:18.000 Yeah, man.

02:00:19.000 Ashley Fuller says, Tim, what do you think of Trump's executive order creating Schedule F in the accepted service?

02:00:24.000 It really wasn't covered in the media.

02:00:25.000 What is that?

02:00:26.000 Do you know what that is?

02:00:27.000 No.

02:00:27.000 I don't know.

02:00:28.000 Don't know!

02:00:29.000 I am uninformed.

02:00:30.000 Send a link next time.

02:00:32.000 Yeah, man, come on.

02:00:33.000 Hatteras Rex says, Tim, I live outside of Bexar County, and seeing this here so close to me scares me, but all I can do is share the videos and talk to people.

02:00:41.000 And the X in Bexar is silent, so it's pronounced bear.

02:00:44.000 Oh, okay.

02:00:45.000 Bear County.

02:00:46.000 Thank you for what you do.

02:00:47.000 That's the James O'Keefe stuff, where the lady's like, I can deliver you votes for... Oh, that is crazy. 0.92

02:00:52.000 You did a video on that today, right?

02:00:52.000 Yeah, dude.

02:00:54.000 Yeah, and yesterday, where she's on the phone and the guy's like, how much, and she's like, $55,000, how many votes will you get me?

02:01:01.000 And he's like, I want them all, top ticket Hunter, I'm sorry, all top ticket Hagar Biden.

02:01:05.000 And she's like, 5,000 votes, $55,000. 0.69

02:01:07.000 And then later in the video, this is from Veritas, by the way, the guy's like, so you're getting this 55 grand for 5,000 votes? 0.96

02:01:13.000 She goes, shut up, you're making me paranoid.

02:01:17.000 And now she's trying to claim I was stinging them! 1.00

02:01:19.000 Uh-huh.

02:01:19.000 No you weren't, you got caught.

02:01:21.000 Give me a break.

02:01:23.000 Good morning, Sunday morning.

02:01:24.000 Oh no.

02:01:25.000 Good morning, Sunday morning says, I know a Philly cop who told me, the mayor and police commissioner told him not to arrest looters tonight.

02:01:31.000 Oh snap.

02:01:32.000 I mean, you know, normally I wouldn't be like, confirmed, Super Chat says it, but I believe it.

02:01:37.000 I do.

02:01:37.000 I mean, they called in the National Guard allegedly yesterday and they were nowhere to be seen.

02:01:41.000 They were supposed to be on site today.

02:01:43.000 Were the National Guard on the streets in Philly?

02:01:46.000 Good question.

02:01:47.000 I don't know.

02:01:47.000 Why would they not be there?

02:01:50.000 Jack Pensobic seems to think that the governor of Pennsylvania has it out for the people and wants to see the destruction.

02:01:55.000 Who knows?

02:01:56.000 Probably correct.

02:01:57.000 Sung Min Bilirgyan says, Hey Tim, love the content, even with Vaush.

02:02:02.000 Would you be willing to entertain military veterans like Jocko Willink?

02:02:06.000 Is it Willink?

02:02:08.000 Tim Kennedy, Matt Best, Evan Hafer, or YouTuber Angry Cops could give different perspective on events.

02:02:12.000 Well, of course.

02:02:13.000 Tim and Jocko are cool.

02:02:15.000 These are people who are largely going to agree with and have a good time with, you know?

02:02:18.000 Definitely.

02:02:19.000 Connor says, I'm 23, mixed race, and voted Trump in 2016.

02:02:23.000 Lots of my friends from similar backgrounds and age, even younger, are also voting Trump.

02:02:27.000 Is this demographic and age range really being taken into account, as I've never been polled?

02:02:32.000 Well, they say young people are all going to be voting for Biden, which is the funniest thing to me.

02:02:37.000 Imagine being a young person and being like, yo, I'm punk rock!

02:02:41.000 Go corporations and political establishment! 0.98

02:02:43.000 Yeah.

02:02:44.000 And the old guy.

02:02:45.000 Wow.

02:02:46.000 Who called Biden the real punk rock?

02:02:48.000 And it was someone I really respected before that.

02:02:50.000 It wasn't Seth MacFarlane or Ricky Gervais, but it was someone like I respect on that level.

02:02:55.000 Do you remember when I was on Twitter saying he's the real punk rock?

02:02:59.000 Biden are the stodgy parents from Footloose who are like finally trying to dance and look cool.

02:03:04.000 Like, nah.

02:03:05.000 I just watched that again the other day with my kids.

02:03:07.000 It holds up.

02:03:09.000 And the soundtrack is bomb.

02:03:11.000 We'll have to watch it, dude.

02:03:14.000 Kenny Loggins, dude.

02:03:15.000 You know he did a Top Gun soundtrack, too.

02:03:17.000 I did, yeah.

02:03:18.000 I did know that.

02:03:20.000 Has Jack heard Biden's corn pop story?

02:03:23.000 I can't stop laughing at it.

02:03:24.000 Thanks for having Jack on again.

02:03:25.000 I really appreciate all of you.

02:03:27.000 All you all do here on YouTube.

02:03:28.000 Thanks.

02:03:29.000 Thank you.

02:03:29.000 Thank you very much.

02:03:30.000 Of course.

02:03:30.000 Of course I have, man.

02:03:32.000 I have my people, they rub things and then the floats in the water and then they sit on my lap and I don't even know who they are.

02:03:39.000 You got any more kids?

02:03:40.000 Where are the kids?

02:03:41.000 12 trillion.

02:03:41.000 Oh my gosh.

02:03:42.000 Oh my gosh.

02:03:43.000 Did you know that 300 billion people died in the last two months?

02:03:47.000 Oh my gosh.

02:03:47.000 I did.

02:03:48.000 Someone said, Tim, you said Milo was a troublemaker earlier.

02:03:51.000 I keep hearing people say that, but you can inform me on some specific issues.

02:03:54.000 It doesn't get to me.

02:03:55.000 I'm not saying he he's like breaking all the rules and deserving of being banned.

02:03:59.000 I'm saying he's a mischievous Troll one of the things he did was he changed his Twitter

02:04:04.000 bio to BuzzFeed reporter or whatever So they took his verification badge away, and then I guess 0.89

02:04:09.000 it wasn't that white the White House I mean, that's a legit move right if you're pretending to 0.93

02:04:13.000 be somebody else and you're verified But wasn't it like he went to the White House press corps,

02:04:17.000 and he was like why did they take away my verification?

02:04:19.000 He was he was a he was a troublemaker. Yeah But there's nothing inherently wrong with that.

02:04:25.000 It was just he was a troll.

02:04:27.000 He did violate their terms.

02:04:29.000 As far as I know.

02:04:29.000 He did, yeah.

02:04:30.000 So he has accounts that should have been shut down.

02:04:32.000 No, the violation was about piling people on to make fun of some actress. 1.00

02:04:38.000 Oh, right.

02:04:39.000 That girl from Ghostbusters or whatever.

02:04:40.000 Leslie something?

02:04:42.000 Yeah.

02:04:42.000 Shift W says, Timcast IRL, would you have Nick Fuentes or Styx on your IRL podcast?

02:04:47.000 Yes.

02:04:48.000 Here's what I can say about this.

02:04:49.000 Styx, I know and watch a ton of his videos, so it's really easy for me to be like, oh yeah, I know exactly what we talk about.

02:04:55.000 I don't know enough about Nick.

02:04:56.000 I would say, on the surface, I see no reason why not.

02:05:00.000 Yeah, if he's pertinent, man.

02:05:01.000 Yeah, the issue is more so, let me look into Nick and his content.

02:05:05.000 I know a little bit about him, and I've actually had some people hit me up saying, you should talk to him because there's some BS that they pulled to get him banned.

02:05:11.000 So, like, we're getting to that point.

02:05:13.000 He just tweeted out that he wants to come on today.

02:05:15.000 Well, we'll check it out, and so I'll say... Of course he does!

02:05:18.000 Who doesn't want to come on to Tim Cast's IRL?

02:05:20.000 I would be sure.

02:05:21.000 I'm surprised anyone would.

02:05:23.000 Here's why I say, you know, I'm not outright just being like, of course, of course, but we've been trying to book Tix for a while, and I don't want to get to the point where everyone's gonna send me a list of, like, why I have to book that person.

02:05:33.000 Like, well then book this person, then book this person.

02:05:35.000 It's like, okay.

02:05:36.000 That's what I do.

02:05:37.000 Somebody reached out to me about Nick, though, and they said that he got banned because they took a clip out of context to accuse him of something.

02:05:43.000 Man, that's like a rampant thing that's going on.

02:05:45.000 That's cool.

02:05:45.000 Yeah.

02:05:46.000 Yep.

02:05:46.000 I don't like it for anyone.

02:05:47.000 I'm not a fan of that.

02:05:47.000 Yep.

02:05:48.000 So yeah, we're looking into a bunch of guests, and I'm down to have some edgy and controversial people.

02:05:55.000 You know what I mean?

02:05:56.000 I don't know who's worse than Adams Jones in terms of the most shocking to the left or whatever.

02:05:56.000 Let's do it.

02:06:03.000 I don't know.

02:06:06.000 Oh, let's see what we got here.

02:06:09.000 Sporkwich says we're still liberals.

02:06:11.000 The left is not.

02:06:12.000 That's true.

02:06:14.000 Big facts.

02:06:16.000 Now you sound like my 13-year-old son.

02:06:17.000 Sorry, I'm sounding a little young there.

02:06:20.000 He's like, big facts, dad.

02:06:21.000 Big facts.

02:06:21.000 Come on, man.

02:06:23.000 We got some Venezuelan information.

02:06:25.000 Little Bear says Venezuela at its peak was doing between 11 and 12 percent of the United States' entire oil income.

02:06:31.000 After years with Chavez, it dropped down to less than 5 percent.

02:06:34.000 Oh, wow.

02:06:36.000 Yeah, Shama's nationalized it.

02:06:37.000 Aran did that too, which is what caused all that heat. 1.00

02:06:43.000 He's a little... He's been to the vet.

02:06:47.000 Yep.

02:06:48.000 And what he does is he comes in when he wants or is angry at us because it's like at 10 o'clock we're supposed to give him food and we do the shows late.

02:06:56.000 He came in at 9.43.

02:06:56.000 I think he gets too many treats.

02:06:58.000 I know, that's really rude.

02:06:59.000 I think he should take his treats away.

02:07:00.000 The time change is screwing him up.

02:07:00.000 He's spoiled.

02:07:02.000 He's very spoiled, yeah.

02:07:05.000 By the way, guys, don't forget to set your clocks back this weekend.

02:07:08.000 Is that happening?

02:07:08.000 Yeah, it is.

02:07:09.000 Fall back.

02:07:10.000 Wait, when is it happening?

02:07:11.000 This weekend from Saturday to Sunday.

02:07:13.000 Fall back one hour.

02:07:13.000 It's the shortest day of the year.

02:07:15.000 23 hour day.

02:07:16.000 Oh, I know.

02:07:16.000 Wow.

02:07:17.000 I don't know if I'm supposed to say anything, but my music video is done.

02:07:22.000 Oh, when's it going live?

02:07:23.000 I don't know if I'm supposed to say anything yet because there's like a plan for it.

02:07:26.000 What genre?

02:07:27.000 Alternative rock, I guess.

02:07:28.000 And you are a?

02:07:30.000 I wrote, sang, and played guitar, and the whole song. 0.97

02:07:34.000 Dope! 0.99

02:07:34.000 I have a feeling... I did a harmony track, but I don't think it made the final cut. 0.99

02:07:38.000 It's really good.

02:07:38.000 I'm not gonna pretend like I think... Personally, it's a song I wrote, and I'm like, oh, I like it.

02:07:43.000 I wrote the song.

02:07:44.000 It's awesome.

02:07:45.000 Sure.

02:07:45.000 I haven't heard the new... Like, I have nothing to say.

02:07:47.000 I haven't heard the mixed version.

02:07:48.000 Can't wait.

02:07:48.000 I did not know.

02:07:49.000 The story is great, too.

02:07:50.000 We did a full animation.

02:07:52.000 I've played it on the show live before, Will of the People, and it's basically about the cycle of violence in political revolutions that never ends.

02:07:58.000 And so it's like 99.9% done.

02:08:02.000 And then we're going to start, you know... Oh yeah, we should look at it after the show.

02:08:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:08:05.000 It's not completely done, so we're going to get ready for a rollout and it's coming.

02:08:09.000 It's coming.

02:08:10.000 There's your next step, dude.

02:08:12.000 Your new career.

02:08:13.000 Yeah, maybe it gets like 50 billion views and then I'm just like, wow, I don't got to do this politics thing anymore, huh?

02:08:17.000 And I just buy an infinity pool and live on top of it.

02:08:22.000 Let's plan, yeah.

02:08:23.000 Fish in the infinity pool.

02:08:24.000 I was thinking about that today.

02:08:25.000 Last night when you went barefoot, I was like, oh, that'd be a good video, man.

02:08:28.000 It was just like eight seconds.

02:08:28.000 Without you holding the camera and skating at the same time.

02:08:30.000 Last night when you went barefoot, I was like, oh that'd be a good video.

02:08:33.000 Nah, I did a rock to fakie to fakie tail stall.

02:08:35.000 It was just like 7 year old stuff.

02:08:36.000 It looked cool from where I was standing.

02:08:38.000 So there's a lot of stuff I need to do, but the ramp is new and I'm trying to get comfortable

02:08:44.000 on it, but it's so great.

02:08:45.000 The guys who built it are some of the best.

02:08:47.000 It's amazing.

02:08:48.000 We just put the couch up in the lounge.

02:08:50.000 Here's what happens.

02:08:52.000 It's a mellower transition that I've been skating, so I've been slipping out on my foot plants.

02:08:57.000 You go up, you grab the board, and then you dive back in real fast, and then I'm not anticipating the transition properly.

02:09:02.000 I've never been big on doing crazy skate videos.

02:09:06.000 I did a video where I did a tray flip or something.

02:09:08.000 You know.

02:09:09.000 All right, let's see.

02:09:10.000 What do we got here?

02:09:10.000 Are we just about ready to wrap up?

02:09:12.000 Gotta be.

02:09:13.000 It's time.

02:09:15.000 Oh, someone said, Chris Chung says, just a heads up, new Alex Jones on Rogan is down right now.

02:09:19.000 What?

02:09:19.000 Is that true?

02:09:20.000 Oh, that's true.

02:09:21.000 The files are corrupted and they got lost in transport coming across the country.

02:09:25.000 What a coincidence.

02:09:26.000 Is it down?

02:09:27.000 I don't know.

02:09:27.000 We're gonna look it up.

02:09:27.000 Yeah, we're gonna look it up after the show.

02:09:30.000 All right, let's see.

02:09:32.000 Ken W. says, yesterday's cast was good.

02:09:34.000 It's nice to hear different views, but I think it went on too long and difficult to pay attention to pass the usual two hours.

02:09:39.000 I can see it.

02:09:40.000 Oh, for sure.

02:09:40.000 Just turn it off.

02:09:41.000 I think Lydia agrees with you.

02:09:43.000 She was falling asleep.

02:09:43.000 I was dying, man.

02:09:44.000 It was challenging.

02:09:45.000 That was awesome.

02:09:46.000 It was really fun, though.

02:09:47.000 Just turn it off.

02:09:47.000 I want more four hours.

02:09:49.000 Well, get ready.

02:09:50.000 Build that fortitude.

02:09:51.000 I want to go late.

02:09:52.000 Well, I think I think we're about we're about it.

02:09:55.000 It's 1010.

02:09:55.000 We went a little bit over.

02:09:57.000 So that's fine.

02:09:57.000 We got some super chats in.

02:09:59.000 Jack, I heard you wrote a book.

02:10:00.000 I wrote a book.

02:10:00.000 Thank you for asking me about it.

02:10:02.000 I was wondering, no, Democrats are deplorable.

02:10:05.000 Why nine million Obama voters ditch the Democrats and embrace Donald Trump on Amazon?

02:10:10.000 Thank you very much.

02:10:10.000 Great support from you guys out there.

02:10:12.000 There's always a nice big pop after I do the show.

02:10:14.000 Thank you.

02:10:14.000 Yeah, man.

02:10:15.000 I'm really pushing the YouTube channel right now, Jack Murphy Live.

02:10:18.000 I've been putting out videos every week.

02:10:20.000 We've got a good whole new cadre of followers.

02:10:23.000 Gracias of Tim Cast and Lydia.

02:10:25.000 Thank you very much.

02:10:26.000 When do you put new videos up?

02:10:27.000 You know, I usually do them at noon.

02:10:29.000 I'm doing an interview tomorrow at noon with the author of a book called War for Eternity, which is a deep discussion about Bannon.

02:10:36.000 Dougan and Olavo and traditionalism and its impact on the political sort of sphere of the world should be good.

02:10:43.000 And there's always a liminal order liminal hyphen order.com all men's organization with the three core values of masculinity, brotherhood and sovereignty.

02:10:50.000 Check it out.

02:10:51.000 Thank you so much.

02:10:52.000 Did you mention your Twitter?

02:10:53.000 Twitter at Jack Murphy live.

02:10:54.000 I for today had 66.6 thousand followers for all of about five minutes.

02:11:02.000 So I was pretty happy we moved through that.

02:11:04.000 Election night is going to be amazing.

02:11:06.000 Indeed.

02:11:07.000 We're going to have every TV in the house is going to be on with the results live.

02:11:10.000 We're going to have we are we are cooking Jill Biden's famous chicken parm.

02:11:14.000 I love chicken parm.

02:11:15.000 And is going to be served At some point when I feel like we've got results, we'll see.

02:11:22.000 No tears allowed.

02:11:23.000 Show December 24th.

02:11:25.000 I think it's funny though, because if Biden wins, then I'm going to make people eat Joe Biden.

02:11:30.000 You must eat it.

02:11:30.000 And if he loses, then we all get to like laugh and eat, you know, his wife's finished.

02:11:34.000 Make some pizzas.

02:11:35.000 You bringing anything?

02:11:36.000 I remember I'm bringing a red hen.

02:11:38.000 I'm bringing my girlfriend.

02:11:39.000 And I remember mentioning this to you a couple months ago.

02:11:42.000 Hey, let's do an election night show.

02:11:43.000 Yeah, that's a great idea.

02:11:45.000 And every time I come back, every other Wednesday guys, every time I come back, it's like, oh, this person and this person.

02:11:50.000 Now you're like catering and cooking.

02:11:52.000 I don't know how many people we're going to have.

02:11:55.000 Maybe like 10 or 15.

02:11:56.000 I hope it's not too many.

02:11:58.000 I don't know.

02:11:59.000 Ben Stewart will be here.

02:12:00.000 Shout out to Ben Stewart.

02:12:01.000 Everybody will be over here fighting over the mics.

02:12:04.000 It's true.

02:12:05.000 Probably that.

02:12:05.000 But yeah, so we're gonna we're gonna stream and we're gonna leave the table open.

02:12:10.000 But we're gonna we're gonna change it probably to a single wide shot.

02:12:12.000 That's a good idea.

02:12:13.000 Yeah, because we're not gonna have a producer running.

02:12:14.000 Unless we have a bunch of those Elgato's at every station. 1.00

02:12:18.000 That'd be fun for people.

02:12:19.000 I think it'd just be a wide shot.

02:12:20.000 I'll be making chicken parm.

02:12:21.000 And because because we want people to be able to see the room too.

02:12:25.000 As, like, people are hanging out and watching and, like, having a beer and, like, eating pizza or whatever.

02:12:28.000 So we'll probably have, like, a camera in the back showing, like, the three people who are chilling.

02:12:33.000 And then, it might be funny, you might see, you know, some prominent personality walk up the stairs and you're like, oh, it's so-and-so.

02:12:38.000 They might tweet, I'm about to go upstairs and go into the studio.

02:12:40.000 Oh, snap. 0.99

02:12:41.000 And then Jack's like, I gotta hit the john, so you can take my seat.

02:12:44.000 And then people just swap out.

02:12:45.000 And we're just gonna have the show on TV.

02:12:48.000 And it'll be a whole lot of fun.

02:12:49.000 I wanna get some surround sounds set up.

02:12:51.000 CNN.

02:12:53.000 We can't play the election stuff on this show.

02:12:58.000 We can have the TV in the background and talk about what we're seeing.

02:13:01.000 So it's going to be a kind of just open live stream of the party.

02:13:04.000 It's crazy that the election... Oh, I guess it's private channels, right?

02:13:09.000 I mean, maybe even C-SPAN, they try and get you.

02:13:12.000 Anyway, we'll be back tomorrow live at 8 p.m.

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02:13:33.000 I like that.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 28, 2020

Timcast IRL - Riots Erupt, Jack Murphy ATTACKED By Antifa In DC, Riots Continue EVERYWHERE

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