Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Rittenhouse Prosecutor AIMS RIFLE AT JURY, Finger ON Trigger w- Drew Hernandez

00:00:00.000 I believe the deliberations will start tomorrow and boy was today insane.

00:00:26.000 Before I tell you how insane it was, I must point out, for those that are watching the live show, we are here in our mobile studio.

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00:00:48.000 So that being said, let's carry on with, you know, now you understand why we're in the mobile studio.

00:00:53.000 Let me just tell you, my friends.

00:00:55.000 During the trial today, the closing arguments, The prosecutor picked up the AR-15.

00:01:01.000 I believe, actually, I think it's an MP5.

00:01:04.000 I'm not sure.

00:01:05.000 It's an AR-15 style rifle, they call it.

00:01:07.000 Chambered in .223.

00:01:10.000 Points it at the jury with his finger on the trigger.

00:01:13.000 Aims.

00:01:14.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:01:15.000 I actually believe the prosecutor should be criminally charged, and I'm not exaggerating.

00:01:21.000 This is deeply irresponsible.

00:01:23.000 We just had the Alec Baldwin story come out, and the prosecutor points a rifle at the jury.

00:01:27.000 Now, I'm gonna stop right there and say, you know what?

00:01:28.000 Personally, I can't believe it.

00:01:31.000 I do not believe it.

00:01:32.000 I've seen the pictures of him pointing the rifle, but we can't see the jury because the jury, their identity is protected.

00:01:37.000 But we've got more than one source saying he pointed the rifle at the jury.

00:01:42.000 Finger on the trigger!

00:01:44.000 Oh, jeez.

00:01:46.000 We gotta talk about what went down in these closing arguments, because the prosecution was lying through their teeth.

00:01:50.000 Now, I'll be the first to admit, I'm biased for the defense, and there are some things about what they've said that I've questioned why I should believe them.

00:01:57.000 I mean that legitimately.

00:01:58.000 But I think the videos speak for itself, and you know what?

00:02:01.000 I don't need to speculate.

00:02:02.000 We've got Drew Hernandez sitting right here.

00:02:05.000 Thanks for having me, Tim.

00:02:06.000 You were actually a witness in the trial.

00:02:06.000 Let's do it.

00:02:09.000 A defense witness.

00:02:10.000 You were there on the ground.

00:02:11.000 You were a journalist filming it.

00:02:13.000 They tried to smear you on the stand.

00:02:15.000 Then they used you as some veteran reporter.

00:02:18.000 Then they tried smearing you again.

00:02:19.000 So people that were paying attention today, it's pretty shocking.

00:02:23.000 I mean, I'm watching this live on TV and I'm just like...

00:02:26.000 So in the closing arguments with Binger, he tried to discredit me during my eyewitness testimony, under oath, by the way, under oath, right?

00:02:34.000 This was a couple days ago.

00:02:35.000 But in his closing argument today, he called me a veteran of covering protests, right?

00:02:42.000 But then the other prosecutor, towards the end of the closing argument, tried to discredit me again for hiring the specific lawyer that I hired for myself.

00:02:50.000 So I truly do wonder if the jury is paying attention to this stuff Because, I mean, he really is insulting their intellect.

00:02:58.000 He really is insulting their own ability to choose for themselves.

00:03:02.000 Because when I was there, I want to say this real quick before we continue, so everybody knows.

00:03:06.000 The reason why I was there was not to share my opinion.

00:03:09.000 I was not some kind of expert to just speak on the video evidence or anything like that.

00:03:13.000 I was an eyewitness to what happened, to what I saw, while at the same time, I had body cam footage to corroborate everything that I said.

00:03:23.000 So, just for the record, because the world is watching, they've been watching on Tucker, they've been watching everywhere, my bias was the truth and what I saw that night.

00:03:31.000 I was not there to give any kind of political opinion.

00:03:34.000 That's what I was doing.

00:03:35.000 This is what we need to get into, too, because when you tell the truth, they say you're biased and right-wing.

00:03:39.000 Absolutely, because the truth doesn't serve their narrative.

00:03:42.000 All right, we'll get into all that stuff.

00:03:42.000 Exactly.

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00:07:52.000 Let's go right into the first story.

00:07:53.000 This is it right here.

00:07:54.000 It's from the Western Journal.

00:07:57.000 The story is, Rittenhouse prosecutor violates gun safety, points AR-15 with finger-on-trigger at court full of people.

00:08:04.000 Why is this important?

00:08:06.000 The prosecution was actually arguing earlier on that there was a charge, potentially for Kyle Rittenhouse, because they claimed he aimed his weapon at people, which is like negligent disregard for the safety of others or something like that.

00:08:18.000 Pointing a weapon at people was a criminal offense, they argued.

00:08:22.000 Now here's something funny.

00:08:23.000 The prosecutor does this.

00:08:26.000 I don't even know if we can show you the footage of the photo of it.

00:08:29.000 And there's multiple photos because YouTube might actually give us a strike for showing him pointing a rifle at people.

00:08:35.000 But you know what?

00:08:36.000 We're going to do it anyway because this is the prosecutor.

00:08:39.000 And if YouTube doesn't even allow us to show the prosecutor aiming a rifle finger on the trigger at a jury.

00:08:44.000 Then we're in a whole world of hurt with censorship.

00:08:47.000 So here it is.

00:08:48.000 Right here on the front of the screen.

00:08:50.000 Matt Walsh says, Kenosha DA pointed a gun at the jury with his finger on the trigger.

00:08:55.000 Let me blow it up.

00:08:55.000 There's the image.

00:08:58.000 Here's a bigger one for you.

00:08:59.000 Now this is from behind.

00:09:00.000 This is from one of the streams where you can see the prosecutor in the Kyle Rittenhouse case aiming a rifle at people.

00:09:06.000 Now hold on.

00:09:07.000 These photos don't actually show you who he's pointing at.

00:09:10.000 Why?

00:09:11.000 Because they can't show the jury.

00:09:13.000 The jury's identity is kept secret.

00:09:15.000 They mute the audio when they're talking with the jury.

00:09:17.000 They send the jury in and out.

00:09:19.000 And I'll even point out, I don't believe it.

00:09:22.000 I'm biased.

00:09:24.000 I cannot believe it that he actually pointed the rifle finger on the trigger.

00:09:28.000 And I just got to say a couple more things.

00:09:30.000 Here it is, this finger on the trigger.

00:09:32.000 I believe, I think I have a bigger photo here.

00:09:34.000 Look at this.

00:09:35.000 Finger on the trigger.

00:09:36.000 Now there's no magazine.

00:09:38.000 There can be a round in the chamber and someone could easily put it in.

00:09:38.000 It doesn't matter.

00:09:42.000 But I just want to stress this point.

00:09:44.000 People like to talk about how NewsGuard is biased, it's Microsoft, it's Bill Gates.

00:09:48.000 So I'm going to show you right here.

00:09:50.000 Western Journal, according to NewsGuard, has an 82 out of 100.

00:09:54.000 The website mostly adheres to basic standards of credibility and transparency.

00:09:58.000 NewsGuard says this is real news and they say the prosecutor held an AR-15 rifle with his finger on the trigger and pointed it toward the jury.

00:10:06.000 That, this is definitive. Now Tim, I know you don't believe it, I do, because number one,

00:10:10.000 he's a government employee. Number two, he's chicken winging.

00:10:13.000 I remember the first time I held a rifle before, my elbows were all the way up. That's

00:10:17.000 not really the proper way to hold a rifle. You learn to kind of hold them down and not act like

00:10:22.000 you're doing the funky chicken.

00:10:24.000 So, I mean, obviously I think he was doing it for dramatic effect.

00:10:29.000 I mean, if I was sitting on the jury, we were talking about this.

00:10:32.000 You said you'd scream because you have a good point to that.

00:10:35.000 You want someone with a finger on the trigger.

00:10:36.000 Let me clarify.

00:10:37.000 I wouldn't scream like, I would yell, get down and I'd shove people to the floor.

00:10:43.000 There's a government agent holding a firearm with his finger on the trigger in your face that he hasn't checked properly before even picking up.

00:10:50.000 He didn't even do that.

00:10:52.000 He didn't check it.

00:10:52.000 Yeah, he did it.

00:10:53.000 He asked other people if they did.

00:10:55.000 This is Baldwin.

00:10:56.000 This is Alec Baldwin.

00:10:58.000 As soon as I see this, I was like, was Alec Baldwin consulting him?

00:11:02.000 That's the question that I asked on my Twitter account.

00:11:04.000 I have some personal experience with this guy.

00:11:06.000 So, I mean, my personal experience with him, he seemed totally unprepared for me when I went to go testify the other day.

00:11:15.000 And it just kind of seemed like he wasn't really prepared for what he was doing in this trial.

00:11:21.000 And I can't really speak for him, but looking at something like this, I mean, how could you take someone serious when they're talking about how you handle a firearm or the do's and don'ts when you're speaking to the jury when they display something like this in a courtroom?

00:11:36.000 I mean, I think he was trying to discredit me.

00:11:39.000 I think this discredits himself.

00:11:41.000 He had you, Drew Hernandez, reporter on the scene, on the stand as a fact witness, not as an expert witness, as someone who was like, I was there, I saw this, and he started questioning why you had a lawyer.

00:11:53.000 He started questioning whether you were biased, who you worked for now, not then.

00:11:58.000 I'm hoping the jury can see through what this guy has been doing because pointing a weapon at them, I think I understand why he did it.

00:12:08.000 He was hoping that they would feel fear and then be like, wow, is that what Kyle Rittenhouse did to people?

00:12:14.000 He should be in jail.

00:12:15.000 He should be in jail, not Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:12:19.000 Binger should be in jail.

00:12:21.000 Look, I think it's a misdemeanor charge to point a brainless weapon at somebody.

00:12:25.000 I don't see why he gets special privileges in a courtroom putting his finger on the trigger with a weapon he did not check.

00:12:34.000 You see all these leftists.

00:12:35.000 I shouldn't say leftists, because leftists like guns.

00:12:37.000 Establishment Democrats.

00:12:38.000 And they're going, to be fair, he did ask if it was unloaded.

00:12:42.000 That's all he did.

00:12:43.000 That's it?

00:12:44.000 Imagine.

00:12:44.000 That's not enough.

00:12:45.000 Imagine.

00:12:45.000 There's a bad actor.

00:12:47.000 They don't like him.

00:12:48.000 He's a leftist.

00:12:49.000 And when they check the bolt, they pop in a 2-2-3 and say, you're good to go.

00:12:53.000 And then he aims it and bang!

00:12:55.000 Kills a juror. 0.98

00:12:56.000 That risk should not be present in any capacity.

00:12:59.000 A bunch of people, I asked this as soon as I saw it happen.

00:13:01.000 I said, why didn't they lock the bolt back?

00:13:03.000 Just lock it back so we know it's clear and it's not going to fight.

00:13:06.000 Dude, this is like a really bad video game.

00:13:10.000 Like, this guy, Alec Baldwin didn't check the magazine.

00:13:14.000 Or he didn't check the chamber.

00:13:15.000 And then like two weeks later, this guy didn't check the chamber.

00:13:19.000 And like you said, he seemed unprepared.

00:13:21.000 He seemed like a stoner that went to theater school.

00:13:24.000 Like he was getting really high a couple weeks ago.

00:13:26.000 Yeah, I do.

00:13:26.000 Ian would know.

00:13:28.000 And now he's like had it out of his system for a while because he's got a big trial up ahead or maybe he's on like Zoloft or something or some crazy like slowing mechanism that, because the guy is like faded.

00:13:37.000 Now I want to point out it says that he pointed it toward the jury.

00:13:40.000 That's different than at the jury.

00:13:41.000 So maybe it's like above the jury, down the hallway, past the jury.

00:13:45.000 Well no, no, no.

00:13:46.000 The Western Journal is reporting that he pointed it directly at- No, no, no.

00:13:50.000 It says toward.

00:13:51.000 Yeah.

00:13:52.000 But come on, man, what does toward mean?

00:13:54.000 In their direction?

00:13:55.000 30 degrees, cone around the target?

00:13:57.000 Right, right, right.

00:13:58.000 I think that's a fair point, but I also think regardless, it's still, like, if there's a group of people and you're not directly aiming at any one person, you're pointing it toward the group of people.

00:14:06.000 Dude, he didn't check the chain!

00:14:07.000 At least have a chamber flag.

00:14:09.000 I mean, that's even common sense as well.

00:14:11.000 But again, he works for the government and I would run away.

00:14:17.000 I want to point this out.

00:14:18.000 I want to point this out.

00:14:19.000 Here's what I tweeted.

00:14:20.000 I think anybody who knows guns knows these rules.

00:14:23.000 Treat a gun always as if it is loaded.

00:14:26.000 And here's his picture.

00:14:27.000 Never point it at something you don't intend to destroy.

00:14:31.000 Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.

00:14:33.000 There's one I didn't include in this.

00:14:35.000 Always know where your target is and what is beyond it.

00:14:39.000 So let's make the argument he didn't actually point it at a jury with his finger on the trigger.

00:14:44.000 Those walls are not going to stop a rifle round.

00:14:47.000 And he has no idea who's behind those people or behind that wall or whatever.

00:14:52.000 I think this discredits everything he's saying about his arguments about guns, about bullets.

00:14:57.000 You know, the defense made a really, really good point in their closing arguments.

00:15:00.000 It was Richard, the defense, who said, I've been in trials. You know, the prosecution tries to

00:15:06.000 call full metal jacket as if it's a more threatening round as if it matters. He said, I've been in

00:15:11.000 trials where they say, you know, to the jury, he used hollow points. Those are designed to kill

00:15:16.000 people, whereas a full metal jacket would just go through them and they'd survive. And now with

00:15:20.000 covering us, they're arguing the opposite.

00:15:22.000 Hollow points wouldn't have gone through people and it wouldn't have been reckless.

00:15:25.000 And he says, regardless of that, the bullet is a bullet and making an argument about the kind of

00:15:30.000 bullet irrelevant. And here you have a guy who tries to act like he knows what he's talking

00:15:34.000 about. He doesn't know what he's talking about. You want to sing funny? I think it was Krauss,

00:15:38.000 the other eight, the prosecutor who said there's no such thing as a right or left handed gun.

00:15:45.000 It's amazing how they can just say things without knowing what they're talking about.

00:15:50.000 And the funny thing is, I guess you can't actually object to lies.

00:15:55.000 For real.

00:15:56.000 So, my understanding is the opponents can object in your closing arguments to matters of the court.

00:16:02.000 So there was a moment where they stated that the Zeminskys, it's like Kelly and some other guy, what's his name, Zach?

00:16:07.000 I don't remember his first name.

00:16:08.000 I think it's Zach.

00:16:09.000 He said they have a Fifth Amendment right, you know, why didn't they testify?

00:16:12.000 They objected to that, saying they don't have a Fifth Amendment right.

00:16:15.000 They could have called the woman who was convicted, but the dude, this is a really important point in the trial, Whether or not someone has a Fifth Amendment right is up to the prosecution.

00:16:24.000 Did you guys know that?

00:16:25.000 You think, like, I plead the Fifth?

00:16:25.000 No.

00:16:27.000 No.

00:16:27.000 The prosecutor can say, then we grant you full immunity, start talking.

00:16:31.000 And if you don't, you're in contempt.

00:16:33.000 So when they say, Zeminsky could testify, the state, the defense was like, we can't call him.

00:16:38.000 He can plead the Fifth, but the state can grant immunity and get whatever testimony they want from him.

00:16:43.000 And the judge would not sustain the objection?

00:16:43.000 But they won't.

00:16:47.000 He sort of sustained it.

00:16:48.000 He said, we'll just ask you to move on.

00:16:49.000 He didn't explain to the jury that the state controls the ability of pleading the fifth.

00:16:54.000 So now you have this guy who has no idea what he's talking about.

00:16:57.000 They have power over some of the witnesses.

00:16:59.000 They didn't execute the search warrant on Gage Grosskreutz.

00:17:02.000 And they control whether or not Zeminsky even testifies.

00:17:04.000 And here's the point.

00:17:05.000 This is why it's important.

00:17:07.000 Kyle Rittenhouse got the gun charge dismissed.

00:17:08.000 We'll talk about that in a second.

00:17:09.000 That's a huge victory.

00:17:11.000 But he stated, the prosecution stated, that he pointed the gun at the Zeminskys.

00:17:16.000 And the defense said, I don't see the Zeminskys here. 0.99

00:17:18.000 And the judge said, you didn't call them as witnesses to testify on the fact that a weapon was pointed at them.

00:17:23.000 There's no complaining witness.

00:17:24.000 If I can't see it happen, I can't instruct the jury that it did.

00:17:28.000 Very, very important points.

00:17:29.000 Hypothetically, if Kyle did use holopoints, let's just kind of play up the scenario, I mean, the scene would be so much more graphic than it already was.

00:17:38.000 And already, you saw the state prosecutor play extremely graphic videos, show extremely graphic images during his closing arguments, that I couldn't even look at.

00:17:48.000 Like, it sparked A very strong reaction to me.

00:17:51.000 So I do think when he was doing his kind of theatrics, putting his finger on the trigger, moving the rifle around, when he was showing the bicep, when he was showing the gore, when he was showing the blood, I think he was trying to evoke more of an emotional response rather than a logical one.

00:18:07.000 Because other than that, I can't really understand what he was really trying to do here.

00:18:10.000 Also, there's a meme video going around from the movie Heat with his image kind of imposed as the state prosecutor in action that is also going viral on the internet.

00:18:21.000 With him with the rifle?

00:18:22.000 Yes, with him and the rifle.

00:18:23.000 There's a lot of people memeing about it.

00:18:24.000 We can't show it.

00:18:25.000 Yeah, we can't.

00:18:26.000 I really wanted to.

00:18:27.000 Luke's like, look at this thing I tweeted!

00:18:29.000 And I was like, we gotta...

00:18:30.000 We can't put that on YouTube.

00:18:31.000 You know, here's a comment I want to make about the trial and the reason why you're seeing this prosecutor look really bad time after time, even the state's own witnesses, right?

00:18:45.000 Gage came out and literally admitted under oath he pointed his gun at Kyle first, right?

00:18:50.000 The reason why you're seeing this happen over and over and over again is because the truth is coming out.

00:18:55.000 It's coming out from the prosecution.

00:18:57.000 It's coming out through the defense as well.

00:19:00.000 And when you find yourself trying to suppress the truth or you find yourself trying to dance around the truth or Combat against the truth to try and like discredit it it's not gonna go well for you And that's why you see this happen over and over and over again in this trial and people are just kind of like What's going on with this guy?

00:19:19.000 What's what's going on here because it's like when you're trying to argue with the truth And you're trying to discredit it and make it look like it's not even relevant or true Are you just trying like take the jury away from that's what he was trying to do with me He's trying to take the jury away from what I was gonna testify take the jury Distract away ask me questions that would lead me down another path It doesn't go well for you.

00:19:39.000 And the reason why it doesn't go well for you is because it all comes out.

00:19:41.000 And when it comes out, people are going to know for themselves what really happened and that's what's happening.

00:19:45.000 This is a big victory in and of itself, that it's televised.

00:19:48.000 Because, you know, in a real system with just malicious malpractice of justice, it would have been behind the scenes, kangaroo court, one and done, no one would have seen it.

00:19:58.000 But we get to watch all the malfeasance.

00:20:01.000 I think that's a victory, whatever the outcome.

00:20:03.000 Imagine this.

00:20:04.000 Imagine if no videographers would have been there that night.

00:20:09.000 Imagine where we would be right now.

00:20:11.000 The narrative that's been spun.

00:20:13.000 The President of the United States literally used Kyle Rittenhouse as a poster child for white supremacy in his campaign.

00:20:19.000 One thing I don't think we hear enough is that after Rosenbaum was shot in .739 of a second.

00:20:28.000 He got hit.

00:20:29.000 He was shot at four times.

00:20:31.000 Richie McGinnis did not run with the crowd.

00:20:34.000 He didn't scream.

00:20:35.000 He didn't hit the ground.

00:20:36.000 Why?

00:20:37.000 He had no fear that Kyle Rittenhouse would cause him any harm.

00:20:40.000 Or I shouldn't say that.

00:20:42.000 His fear did not reach a level to where he thought he should flee at all.

00:20:46.000 Maybe he was like, there's some issue, but I genuinely believe... Richie ran up to Rosenbaum and acted like Kyle wasn't even there?

00:20:54.000 Because he knew, in my opinion, I haven't talked to him about it, he knew that Kyle wasn't a threat to him at all.

00:21:01.000 I think that's the most important point.

00:21:02.000 The second most important point.

00:21:04.000 In this trial, when they were watching a video, the judge walks over to the big screen TV and sits down and watches the video.

00:21:10.000 Kyle Rittenhouse walks up right behind the judge and leans in right over his left shoulder.

00:21:15.000 No bailiff, no handcuffs, no complaints, no one freaking out.

00:21:18.000 No one was threatened by this kid.

00:21:21.000 Not a single person, because they know he was only a threat to those attacking him.

00:21:25.000 And lastly...

00:21:27.000 All of you agree with me, and I know it.

00:21:29.000 If A.D.A.

00:21:30.000 Binger was on the ground in Kenosha during a riot and he saw Kyle Rittenhouse, he would run to him for safety.

00:21:35.000 Yes.

00:21:36.000 Yep.

00:21:37.000 Well, let me tell you something.

00:21:38.000 When I was there that night, right?

00:21:39.000 And I testified under oath, so I feel comfortable saying it again, because it's true.

00:21:43.000 When I was there that night, the first time I saw Kyle that night, they were in front of a... They call it Car Source 2, right?

00:21:51.000 The second car dealership.

00:21:52.000 Right?

00:21:54.000 There were individuals on the roof.

00:21:56.000 They had rifles on the roof, right?

00:21:58.000 And one of them was outside on the ground as well.

00:22:01.000 And this was after the rioters were going head-to-head with the police, and the police were pushing them down Sheridan, pushing them, they were deploying rubber bullets.

00:22:09.000 They were rioting!

00:22:09.000 They were taking concrete slabs and destroying them on the floor and throwing them at the cops, taking fireworks, explosive devices, throwing them at the police vehicles.

00:22:17.000 Um, so as they were getting pushed back when they got to Car Source 2, these guys on the, you know, on the building had their rifles, um, the rioters came to them, they're like, you ain't the police!

00:22:27.000 You ain't the police, you ain't the cops, you ain't the- like, getting super confrontational, to the point where the rioters went behind Car Source 2, grabbed more rocks, more concrete slabs, and were throwing them at the individuals with rifles on the top of the building.

00:22:42.000 They brought a rock to a gunfight, okay?

00:22:46.000 So, the reason why this is important is the first time I saw Kyle was when he came outside of this car source 2 and attempted to de-escalate that situation.

00:22:56.000 And you know what?

00:22:57.000 He had his hands, like, he was, you know, he was going, like, kind of like when you, uh, when you're saying, hey, like, calm down, calm down, like, like, what, what, instead of saying the word calm down, what do you do?

00:23:06.000 Yeah.

00:23:06.000 You use your hands.

00:23:07.000 That's what he was doing, and then the rioters dispersed, because they were getting super confrontational, like, you ain't the cops, you ain't the police, you ain't the police!

00:23:14.000 And then they dispersed.

00:23:15.000 See, that's the crazy thing.

00:23:17.000 I've been to a bunch of events.

00:23:18.000 We had, um... Who was it who tweeted today that white supremacists in Ferguson... Did you see that?

00:23:23.000 I can't remember who it was.

00:23:25.000 I don't want to say the wrong person, but, you know, someone tweeted... Did you see that, Drew?

00:23:28.000 They were like, when we were marching in Ferguson, white supremacists were hiding by the hill where Michael Brown was shot, and they were shooting at us, and I'm like...

00:23:28.000 Nope.

00:23:35.000 You know, I've been there, and nothing like that happened.

00:23:37.000 At least, nobody said it happened.

00:23:39.000 I didn't experience anything like that.

00:23:41.000 No one I know said anything like that, but not a single activist reported anything like that until today.

00:23:44.000 But the reason I bring that up is, I'm on the ground in Ferguson.

00:23:48.000 I watched the Oath Keepers.

00:23:49.000 I filmed the Oath Keepers up on top of the building, standing there with weapons.

00:23:54.000 Then, we had, it was a... I can't remember the guy's name.

00:23:58.000 What's his name?

00:23:59.000 It's been a long time.

00:24:00.000 The group comes down, and they start marching down...

00:24:03.000 It wasn't, it wasn't Stewart.

00:24:04.000 They start walking down the road with rifles and people are yelling at him just like that, you ain't the police, you're not the cops.

00:24:12.000 And the dude, I can't remember his name, who's in the front, he's like, you know, a leader in the Oath Keepers.

00:24:16.000 He goes, we know, we know, we're just here for everyone's safety.

00:24:19.000 And they were like, then why aren't you here protecting us?

00:24:21.000 And he goes, we are.

00:24:22.000 And they're like, what are you, what?

00:24:24.000 And he's like, yeah, we want to make sure the police don't hurt any of you guys.

00:24:26.000 And they went, what?

00:24:28.000 We I was I watched him say he was like he's like we're here like the cops shouldn't hurt any guys you guys keep protesting do your thing and we want to make sure that everyone's safe and they were like what?

00:24:38.000 The thing about Kenosha was it wasn't a protest.

00:24:42.000 At no point was it a protest.

00:24:44.000 I mean, I was in Chicago the night Jacob Blake got shot, right?

00:24:49.000 And I was looking on Twitter, and the first thing I saw, literally one of the first reports I saw what was happening in Kenosha was the rioters were already taking brick, took a brick to a police officer's head, knocked him unconscious.

00:25:03.000 And then I started to see other reports, and I'm thinking to myself, how far is Kenosha?

00:25:07.000 Whoa, it's like an hour and a half, two hour drive.

00:25:10.000 It was like a $300 Uber, right?

00:25:13.000 I think it's like an hour from Chicago.

00:25:13.000 I don't even think that's far.

00:25:14.000 I don't remember.

00:25:16.000 It was far, and it was during the lockdown in Chicago at 11 p.m.

00:25:19.000 at night.

00:25:19.000 I don't even know how I got an Uber.

00:25:21.000 But I took it, went there, and right when I showed up, they already had dumpster trucks on fire, exploding.

00:25:28.000 They were looting.

00:25:29.000 Dumpster carts?

00:25:30.000 A dumpster truck.

00:25:33.000 It's on my Twitter.

00:25:33.000 A truck.

00:25:34.000 Anyone can go watch it right now.

00:25:35.000 Drew H. Live.

00:25:36.000 That's one of the first things... I certainly don't mean a full vehicle.

00:25:38.000 No, a full truck.

00:25:39.000 A dumpster truck on fire.

00:25:41.000 And the ones who brought rifles to the Kenosha riot first was actually the rioters.

00:25:47.000 I retweeted that today.

00:25:49.000 They were there night one and they were in a standoff with the police in the middle of the street and they had their rifles.

00:25:54.000 They were the ones who brought guns first.

00:25:56.000 That's a fact.

00:25:56.000 I watched that video where it was like a mattress store or something, where it was being burned down, you see the smoke billowing out of the building.

00:26:02.000 Do you see that video?

00:26:03.000 Which, I don't know, I have to look at it because there's so many burnt buildings in Kenosha.

00:26:06.000 It's where the old guy is running up and like trying to get people at his store, and then someone bashes him over the back of that with a rock and he just falls down and he's lying on the ground bleeding and they're all like laughing and hooting at him.

00:26:16.000 I have to look at that one, but that night was a mixture of arson, looting, vandalism, Total violence.

00:26:24.000 They burnt down multiple buildings, and that's why when you hear the mainstream media, this is why they'll come out and say, oh, you're just biased.

00:26:30.000 And they were chanting Black Lives Matter when they did it, okay? 0.77

00:26:32.000 It's all on film, and I posted it.

00:26:34.000 That's not bias, that's just the truth.

00:26:36.000 I was in San Jose when... It was that moment where the guy got hit in the back of the head with rocks during the Trump rally.

00:26:44.000 And I tweeted out it was Bernie Sanders supporters who did it.

00:26:48.000 There was that big moment where they were like, Bernie supporters, Bernie bros are violent, Bernie supporters are violent, and Bernie was like, you guys gotta dock it off. 0.93

00:26:54.000 And I tweeted like, yeah, those guys were Bernie supporters, and they were like, you're a liar and you're far right. 0.93

00:26:59.000 And I was like, but that's what happened.

00:27:01.000 And they were like, how do you know they were Bernie supporters?

00:27:04.000 They were wearing Bernie shirts!

00:27:06.000 They were like, wearing Bernie, a couple of the people who were part of the mob had Bernie stickers and stuff on them.

00:27:06.000 What?

00:27:11.000 And they were screaming and shoving people, and I'm like, That's just what, I don't know.

00:27:15.000 I didn't think it was that big of a deal to be like, oh yeah, this was the left that was engaged in this behavior.

00:27:20.000 At the time, I genuinely thought, because I've seen the Black Bloc tactics, they're proud of what they call the diversity of tactics. 0.99

00:27:27.000 I didn't understand why they would all of a sudden now deny the fact that they beat people all the time.

00:27:32.000 They were proud of it.

00:27:33.000 Luke, I mean, knows it.

00:27:34.000 Luke was there when I got attacked in New York.

00:27:37.000 And Luke pulls the guy's mask off.

00:27:38.000 Yeah, well, me and my friends made sure that, you know, we prevented further escalations and, and, you know, you can just see a lot of these actions unfold right before they unfold with how people are preparing for it.

00:27:49.000 But again, when we look at what happened last year during the summer, we're talking about over three There was a lot of tragedies out there.

00:27:58.000 There's a lot of responsibility out there that you could point to so many different people.

00:28:01.000 I would directly point at Big Tech social media.

00:28:03.000 accounts of this but the mainstream media picked this ...

00:28:05.000 particular case they highlighted it there's a lot ...

00:28:08.000 of tragedies out there there's a lot of responsibility out ...

00:28:11.000 there that you could point to so many different people I ...

00:28:14.000 would directly point at big tech social media I would ...

00:28:17.000 directly point at the mainstream media that was ...

00:28:19.000 censoring any opposing viewpoints promoting ...

00:28:22.000 obfuscating or even just sometimes making excuses for ...

00:28:25.000 violence and I think that was deliberate and I think we're ...

00:28:28.000 having that same kind of element being brought back now ...

00:28:31.000 that the National Guard is being deployed in Wisconsin ...

00:28:34.000 we have the NYPD Chicago PD LAPD Seattle PD Washington ...

00:28:37.000 PD all of these things are being brought back.

00:28:38.000 All mobilizing.

00:28:39.000 Yeah, 500 National Guard.

00:28:40.000 All mobilizing their police officers because they're prepared for something.

00:28:43.000 I wonder why.

00:28:44.000 Why are 500 National Guard called out to Kenosha tonight if this whole thing started as a peaceful protest?

00:28:50.000 This is why I'm so aggressive, Tim, because they're trying to lie.

00:28:53.000 They're trying to cover for these violent criminals that literally showed up to literally burn down buildings, threaten the community.

00:28:59.000 Kenosha was literally having a massive threat that night and this is so underplayed because they want to cover for these people and make them look like little saints that they're just Opposing racism.

00:29:09.000 They weren't.

00:29:10.000 What happened to Kenosha had nothing to do with Jacob Blake being shot.

00:29:13.000 And you're biased for talking about what you saw and what you filmed that we all plainly understood.

00:29:19.000 And I want to stress a very important point when they criticize your bias.

00:29:22.000 You actually testified that you had concerns about the guys with guns as well.

00:29:27.000 The prosecutor was like, you held up your press badge when they were pointing a laser pointer at you because you were concerned for your safety.

00:29:32.000 And you were like, well, I'm always concerned for my safety.

00:29:34.000 But he was like, but you were worried they might have a gun on you.

00:29:36.000 Yes.

00:29:37.000 You said yes to that, right?

00:29:38.000 This is why.

00:29:39.000 I was trying to explain context in that situation.

00:29:42.000 That situation I just explained to you where I saw Kyle come out and attempt to de-escalate a situation?

00:29:47.000 That was the same building that the rioters were taking rocks and throwing them at individuals with rifles on top of the building.

00:29:56.000 But I, listen, I was sitting there filming it. 0.98

00:29:59.000 So the reason why I said, of course, I'm in kind of concerned about my life because I don't want to be misidentified with these morons throwing rocks at people with guns. 0.99

00:30:09.000 Absolutely. 0.96

00:30:10.000 No, but I think the important point here is that I'm trying to make is there's two things.

00:30:13.000 One, I think it's fair to say you've you I can't speak for you, but I've been on the ground.

00:30:18.000 I absolutely fear the rioters more than I would fear militia members.

00:30:22.000 Militia members tend to have firearms training.

00:30:24.000 They tend to be more skittish about using force or weapons.

00:30:28.000 And this is true of the left militias as well.

00:30:30.000 When I would see the armed socialist groups, like the Socialist Rifle Association or whatever they call themselves, I would feel safer around them as well because they take it very, very seriously.

00:30:39.000 But that being said, when you testified, you did have some concerns about both sides.

00:30:45.000 Right?

00:30:46.000 He has the nerve to call you biased, but then accuse you of fearing both the rioters and the armed gunmen.

00:30:50.000 I'm like, How can the lawyer come to you and say, the prosecutor, I'm sorry, you're biased against those people!

00:30:58.000 And you are also scared about the guys with guns!

00:31:00.000 It's like, so which is it?

00:31:02.000 If he's got concern for his safety across the board, it sounds like he's mostly concerned for himself, and not who's doing what, but that's it.

00:31:02.000 Who's he biased against?

00:31:10.000 You film the rioters rioting, and say they're rioters, he literally called you biased for saying they were rioters.

00:31:16.000 He said, your footage seems slanted towards the rioters, and I responded and said, Yeah, because they're rioting in the footage, absolutely.

00:31:23.000 Like, it just, it doesn't make any sense and that's why I'm watching the trial and I'm like, dude, you, you're, what he's doing is he's insulting the intellect and the judgment ability of the jurors.

00:31:34.000 Because you see this back and forth.

00:31:34.000 Yeah.

00:31:36.000 You know, you see this back and forth where, I'll use myself as an example.

00:31:40.000 Today, he literally praised me for being a veteran reporter, trying to add credibility to me when it fit his little narrative, and then at the end, They literally try to discredit me again at the end of their closing argument.

00:31:53.000 That just, to me, if I was a juror, that would insult me completely. 0.95

00:31:58.000 So you think I'm that dumb that I even pick up on it? 0.96

00:32:00.000 He did it on multiple occasions. 0.96

00:32:02.000 One of the biggest ones was him describing the activities of Rosenbaum and acted like it wasn't a big deal when he went over everything that he did.

00:32:10.000 I'll pull that up in a second.

00:32:11.000 I don't know if we can play that.

00:32:12.000 Including the N word.

00:32:13.000 Isn't that funny though?

00:32:14.000 Isn't it?

00:32:15.000 Like, listen, he's like, oh, he uses the N word.

00:32:18.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:32:19.000 I want to play the video in a second.

00:32:20.000 I want to play the video in a second.

00:32:21.000 We'll get to it.

00:32:22.000 It's wild.

00:32:22.000 We'll get to it.

00:32:23.000 Did you want to point out anything?

00:32:24.000 No, no.

00:32:25.000 He contradicted himself when he was questioning you, Drew.

00:32:29.000 And then with his closing arguments, he literally said the opposite of what he was saying to you.

00:32:33.000 So that's a major point here.

00:32:35.000 And this video, I mean, it's just wild, man.

00:32:39.000 We're gonna play this video.

00:32:40.000 Okay.

00:32:41.000 I don't know if... Do we have desktop audio pulled up?

00:32:43.000 It's the second to last on the mixer board, just in case.

00:32:45.000 Because I don't know if we set up desktop audio for playback just yet.

00:32:48.000 I think we do.

00:32:49.000 But let's play and we'll see what happens.

00:32:50.000 Let's find out.

00:32:51.000 He just happens to stumble into it.

00:32:53.000 Okay, wait, wait, okay.

00:32:53.000 Alright, I'm gonna play this.

00:32:54.000 But I want to give you some context.

00:32:56.000 He just happens to stumble into it.

00:32:57.000 saying, Binger says that all Rosenbaum did the night of the shooting was...

00:33:05.000 Let me just play for you as he reads off this list.

00:33:07.000 When I heard this video, I screamed.

00:33:10.000 I was like, what?

00:33:11.000 I'm like in the vehicle when he said it.

00:33:14.000 Watching this live.

00:33:15.000 Check this out.

00:33:17.000 He just happens to stumble into it.

00:33:19.000 So what does he do that night?

00:33:21.000 Oh, let me tell you all the awful things Joseph Rosenbaum did.

00:33:25.000 He tipped over a port-a-potty that had no one in it.

00:33:29.000 He swung a chain.

00:33:31.000 He lit a metal garbage dumpster on fire.

00:33:37.000 Oh, and there's this empty wooden flatbed trailer that they pulled out in the middle of the road, and they tipped it over to stop some bearcats, and they lit it on fire.

00:33:45.000 Oh my God!

00:33:46.000 Right here, right here.

00:33:47.000 Oh, and he said some bad words.

00:33:48.000 He said the N-word.

00:33:51.000 Okay, listen, pause.

00:33:52.000 America, America, America, okay?

00:33:55.000 America, alright?

00:33:56.000 For all the woke supremacists out there, you got this white attorney playing down the use of the n-word being used by another white guy using the n-word at a so-called anti-racism gathering in Kenosha.

00:34:08.000 Does that make sense to any of you out there?

00:34:09.000 Does it to me?

00:34:11.000 Okay, so for quick context for those just tuning in, this is the prosecutor in the Kyle Rittenhouse case trying, I think, to downplay the actions of Joseph Rosenbaum, who was I gotta be very careful about this.

00:34:25.000 A person who committed some of the most serious atrocities against children, and I do believe that matters in this case and should have been relevant, because he just got out of jail, and that played a role in why he yelled, I don't care if I go back to jail.

00:34:38.000 I digress, we'll get to that later.

00:34:40.000 It seems like Binger, the prosecutor, is trying to downplay.

00:34:44.000 As if to say, he only did these things and then he got killed.

00:34:48.000 I gotta point out, He slowly escalates it.

00:34:53.000 It's like, dude, start with the worst thing and end with the lighter thing.

00:34:56.000 Start with like, well, he did participate in burning up a trailer in the middle of the street.

00:35:01.000 But then what was he really doing on his own?

00:35:03.000 He knocked over a port-a-potty.

00:35:04.000 Okay, it's bad, but there was no one in it.

00:35:05.000 No, he starts at the lightest and escalates to the point where I'm like, what?! !

00:35:09.000 He's like, he knocked over a port-a-potty, and I'm like, that's pretty bad, but like, I've seen pranksters do that, as long as there's nobody in it.

00:35:14.000 Well, and he left out what happened, because he said, oh, he lit a metal dumpster on fire.

00:35:20.000 No, it was on fire, and he was attempting to push it into occupied police vehicles with human beings inside of them.

00:35:27.000 And there were people pushing dumpsters towards a gas station.

00:35:30.000 I want to be careful how I phrase that, because whether they were trying to, I can't read their minds.

00:35:34.000 Right, it was like down the road past the gas station.

00:35:36.000 They were moving in the direction of the gas station, and then the fire got put out.

00:35:40.000 But hold on, he goes from there, he's letting a dumpster on fire, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, okay, that's getting pretty dangerous.

00:35:44.000 What human can get away with that?

00:35:46.000 You can't get away with that stuff.

00:35:47.000 Do you remember when the judge When they were in pre-trial motions, he was like, we shouldn't be able to call them arsonists.

00:35:54.000 All he did was set a dumpster on fire and the judge goes, are you kidding me?

00:35:59.000 That's arson!

00:35:59.000 Arson?

00:36:00.000 But hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:36:02.000 Then he says he was swinging a chain.

00:36:04.000 It's like, hold on, yo.

00:36:05.000 Last I checked, fires make more fires.

00:36:08.000 That's like really bad.

00:36:10.000 And swinging a chain? 0.98

00:36:12.000 You could kill somebody doing that! 0.72

00:36:14.000 So he's escalating and then he's like, oh.

00:36:16.000 And then he took a wooden trailer and flipped it over in the street and set it on fire to block the police, and I'm like, yo, that's like, really bad.

00:36:24.000 Like, that's blocking emergency services bad.

00:36:27.000 That's accidentally killing people bad.

00:36:30.000 And to top it all off, with the cherry on top, he's screaming the N-word over and over again?

00:36:34.000 Yo, it sounded to me like the prosecutor was trying to lose.

00:36:39.000 And so I tweeted this.

00:36:41.000 ADA Krause, the other prosecutor, did a much, much better job than Binger. 0.99

00:36:45.000 People got mad that I tweeted.

00:36:46.000 They're like, are you kidding?

00:36:47.000 He's flopping.

00:36:48.000 And I'm like, yeah.

00:36:48.000 I didn't say he was doing a good job.

00:36:50.000 I said he was doing better than Binger.

00:36:51.000 That guy would laugh at me.

00:36:52.000 He would laugh at me anytime I would say Antifa, rioter, arson, vandalism, and looting.

00:36:58.000 He would laugh at me and just shake his head like that.

00:37:00.000 And I'm like, what are you laughing at?

00:37:01.000 That's funny to you?

00:37:02.000 That's why I'm saying, the jury's seeing that stuff.

00:37:06.000 Because people know what happened in Kenosha, and when people are sitting there laughing at what happened to their town, they're not gonna have it.

00:37:12.000 There were people who were super chatting to us in response to your testimony.

00:37:15.000 So I guess, I don't know if it's true, I don't want to accuse Rikada of saying it, but people were saying on Rikada's stream, they were saying you were a bad witness.

00:37:21.000 And I think some of it has to do with you came off as adversarial with the prosecutor, right?

00:37:26.000 I think he came off as adversarial with me because I didn't come in with that mentality.

00:37:30.000 I came in, here's the thing, and people may not know this, is I submit my footage and I was willing to cooperate with both of them.

00:37:39.000 He did not have to approach me that way, but he chose to, because he wanted to make it seem like it was adversarial, but I kept stating over and over again, I'm willing to tell both sides the truth, and I'm here for the jury.

00:37:52.000 I personally, I'm not a lawyer, so I can only defer, I think we're kitted as a great stream, if you guys haven't been watching his stream and stuff, the commentary is absolutely fantastic, hearing all these lawyers tell you about what's right, what's wrong, and when you have, like, ten lawyers who are watching, they can point out all of the mistakes being made, It's great.

00:38:09.000 It's kind of unfair to the actual defense team because they don't have the privilege

00:38:11.000 of having 10 other lawyers advising them or whatever.

00:38:14.000 But anyway, it was a great stream.

00:38:16.000 But I will say I actually thought you I think he may have gotten you the prosecutor in that

00:38:20.000 regard.

00:38:21.000 I think you're right.

00:38:22.000 He knew that you were a fact witness on the ground and you were very good for the defense.

00:38:28.000 So we had to try and figure out a way to make it seem adversarial.

00:38:32.000 You being confident in what you are talking about.

00:38:35.000 He does this really annoying thing where he was like, um, who do you work for?

00:38:41.000 Don't, don't, aren't you being biased?

00:38:43.000 It's like a very annoying and condescending because he wants you to be like, Hey, hey, hey, look, this is what happened so that he can make it seem like you're not credible.

00:38:52.000 That being said, I thought one thing that you said was the most important bit of testimony that people shouldn't gloss over when you brought up that Kyle Rittenhouse came out and de-escalated the violence.

00:39:03.000 Because we can question the actions that night all day.

00:39:06.000 We can say, should Kyle have run?

00:39:08.000 Did he point the rifle?

00:39:09.000 They're trying to claim this video.

00:39:10.000 And we can have an argument over the facts surrounding Rosenbaum chasing him.

00:39:14.000 But when you brought up that you witnessed Kyle say, please, you know, I mean, I'm paraphrasing, I'm using a metaphor, like, when he came out trying to calm people down, that says to me there is no way you can argue intentional homicide.

00:39:29.000 Well, here's another point, and this is why I don't care about any of the lawyers that are doing their live streams critiquing me and any of that.

00:39:34.000 None of that means anything to me.

00:39:36.000 The reason why is because not only was I there to share my eyewitness testimony, I was there to submit more than 80 to 100 videos that corroborate every single thing that I said.

00:39:47.000 Everything that I said.

00:39:48.000 And I don't care who has them.

00:39:51.000 on planet earth right now other than those jurors and that's why I was there and I have faith in the jurors that they were going to listen to my testimony and they have all of those videos to take a look at what really happened at least on my part from my heart from my perspective in my own life my own conscience that's what that was my intention to be there for this case I was I was flabbergasted How often the prosecution lied.

00:40:17.000 Binger and Kraus, in their closing arguments, kept lying.

00:40:21.000 And some of it was just falsehoods, which could be accidental, but some of it was outright lies, completely contradicting what the judge said.

00:40:28.000 There is no duty to retreat.

00:40:31.000 Avoidance is not a category.

00:40:33.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:40:34.000 I was watching this, and I even checked on this.

00:40:37.000 I looked up to make sure.

00:40:39.000 There's four categories.

00:40:40.000 I don't know what the four categories are, but some states have a fifth, avoidance.

00:40:43.000 I've been reading Andrew Branca's Law of Self-Defense, because he's a self-defense expert.

00:40:46.000 But avoidance means, in certain places, you have a duty to retreat.

00:40:50.000 Not Wisconsin.

00:40:51.000 But they kept saying, he had a duty to retreat, he should have, he didn't exhaust all methods, he could have run, even though he did run.

00:40:58.000 But it was amazing to watch them just outright lie.

00:41:00.000 And I thought to myself, how is it that the prosecution, the state, is allowed to lie to the jury?

00:41:08.000 When the defense would object, this is the craziest thing, there was one point where Binger has the rifle, and he's explaining that he pointed it, you know, because he did this on more than one occasion, I guess, but he pointed it at the Zeminskys.

00:41:22.000 And then the defense objects.

00:41:25.000 He's facing the wrong direction.

00:41:27.000 And before the judge says anything, Binger goes, that's an argument.

00:41:31.000 And then the judge goes, yeah, that is an argument.

00:41:33.000 And I'm like, whoa, the arrogance of the prosecution.

00:41:36.000 I don't understand how they can admit CGI evidence, which they did.

00:41:41.000 Like, this is not a photograph.

00:41:43.000 They admitted computer generated imagery.

00:41:45.000 of the night in question and then claimed that Kyle Rittenhouse in a split second dropped a

00:41:50.000 fire extinguisher, took off his weapon, put the strap back on it and then aimed it with his left

00:41:55.000 hand with the chamber right next to his face so it would eject a cartridge into his face.

00:42:01.000 That's what the prosecution claimed. And the argument is, I guess the way the court works is,

00:42:06.000 well, the defense can just tell the jury that when it's their turn.

00:42:09.000 And I'm like, no way, man.

00:42:11.000 If you have a false statement of fact, I personally, maybe I'm wrong, because I don't understand why they do it this way, and there's probably a good reason, but I'd imagine a good judge would be like, make your arguments, but don't make up your facts.

00:42:24.000 There are left-handed weapons, and it is true that you were facing the wrong direction in your demonstration.

00:42:30.000 You can make an argument about intent, about what Kyle should have done, but he shouldn't be allowed to say there's no such thing as a left-handed gun.

00:42:38.000 Of course there are left-handed guns.

00:42:40.000 I have, um... Which one is it?

00:42:43.000 What's my Polish Makarov?

00:42:45.000 Whatever.

00:42:46.000 It's a right-handed gun.

00:42:47.000 It is specifically only a right-handed weapon.

00:42:50.000 And there are left-handed weapons.

00:42:52.000 I know because I have a right-handed gun.

00:42:54.000 You literally, you can hold it in your left if you are left-handed, but it's uncomfortable and it's not shaped properly.

00:42:59.000 I just don't get it.

00:43:01.000 Maybe we should have a lawyer on to explain to me why prosecution has been allowed.

00:43:05.000 And maybe the real reason is because the defense didn't object.

00:43:08.000 But also, Binger, and I brought this up to you guys before the show, he makes statements.

00:43:13.000 You're supposed to be asking the witness questions, but he will say things like, it seems to me that he said that if you light a fire, that he's going to use his weapon.

00:43:21.000 Is that correct?

00:43:22.000 His question is, is that correct?

00:43:25.000 Before he makes a giant statement about what he believes is happening.

00:43:28.000 That to me is court malpractice.

00:43:31.000 I think the prosecutor is not supposed to make directed statements to the witnesses.

00:43:37.000 And lead them.

00:43:37.000 It's a trick.

00:43:38.000 It is, and it's lazy law practice.

00:43:41.000 There have been a few instances where the judge, there's been an objection, and like the defense said, that's a statement, and then the judge goes, ask a question.

00:43:49.000 That's common, they'll do that, but you're right, it is extremely lazy, but it's probably on the line, where it's like, so Ian, when you walked down the street, you really wanted to kick that dog, right?

00:44:04.000 Exactly.

00:44:04.000 It's like, no, I just said you wanted to do it, then asked you to agree with me.

00:44:07.000 You know what I mean?

00:44:08.000 Yes, the questions are, do you agree?

00:44:10.000 Do you agree?

00:44:11.000 Not, not, and this is, I mean, it is so blatant at 1.16.39 or whatever in the, I wish we had the video pulled up.

00:44:17.000 He makes a long statement and they cut him off in the middle of it before he has a chance to say, is that, is that accurate?

00:44:22.000 What channel are you on?

00:44:23.000 This is a full video, prosecutors cross-examine, cross-examine Kyle Rittenhouse on YouTube.

00:44:30.000 1.16.39 timestamp.

00:44:32.000 Binger just goes into a long statement.

00:44:34.000 And then they cut him off, and he's like, I'll withdraw the question.

00:44:36.000 They object to it, and then he says, I'll withdraw the question right after he just made a statement.

00:44:41.000 It's not a question.

00:44:42.000 But it's a good thing they objected, and that's the point of the process.

00:44:45.000 But even the defender was like, that's something to question.

00:44:47.000 The judge was like, yeah, you gotta take back your question.

00:44:50.000 That was the bad question.

00:44:52.000 It was like, dude, it was a statement.

00:44:53.000 This is what the prosecution's been doing.

00:44:55.000 They've been- That's what he did to me?

00:44:56.000 Yeah, that's what he did to you.

00:44:58.000 Their whole case is predicated upon emotional manipulation.

00:45:02.000 They claim Drew Hernandez is this veteran reporter who knows what he's talking about when it serves the current argument for this minute, and then later on at the end of the argument, they say he's biased, you can't believe him.

00:45:11.000 When he kept, like, he would use, and I know lawyers do this, but I think he just was unaware that I would actually pick up on it.

00:45:17.000 Like, he would say things like, so, this video you posted, um, that you made on, and he would continue, like, no, I didn't make anything.

00:45:26.000 Oh, and this was on video, he's like, oh, the video you recorded.

00:45:30.000 Yes, I recorded.

00:45:31.000 These words matter.

00:45:32.000 So these words matter because they could lead you down a path to get you to admit to something without even realizing it.

00:45:37.000 Because he was trying to, what he was doing was, you had two clips.

00:45:42.000 You had one moment captured on two different cameras, so you basically just put one and then the other, right?

00:45:48.000 Synced.

00:45:49.000 And he tried using it to argue it was manipulated videos.

00:45:52.000 He used the word splice.

00:45:53.000 Exactly.

00:45:54.000 That's why when he was like, you made the video, he was trying to get you.

00:45:57.000 That's why I'm like, people need to realize that.

00:45:59.000 I think, I think you did a good job.

00:46:01.000 I mean, I'm sure there's some things people could criticize you for, but if you went up there, told the truth, you were yourself.

00:46:04.000 That's all that matters.

00:46:05.000 But he was, he tried to say, you made the video and you caught him on that because his line of questioning was, you spliced the video and you manipulate it.

00:46:12.000 Therefore, we should be allowed to use our manipulated video as well.

00:46:15.000 But that's why if you guys caught my response, my response was, there's full footage on the body cam and the phone, unedited.

00:46:24.000 I sent you all the raw and I sent you this synced video as well.

00:46:29.000 So the jury has all of it.

00:46:31.000 The other thing he said was, I loved this.

00:46:33.000 Because the night before you testified, I was like, Drew is not gonna take it from him, he's not gonna be manipulated, he's gonna know what he knows, he's gonna say what he said, because we've had you on the show, I know the kind of person you are.

00:46:42.000 And he said, you went down to Kenosha to film the things that were happening there, and you're like, the violent riots, yes.

00:46:48.000 Yeah.

00:46:49.000 I was like, yeah.

00:46:50.000 Yeah, because they're trying to omit that.

00:46:54.000 To keep it from the jury.

00:46:56.000 And they need to know that this was not some peaceful environment.

00:47:01.000 They're trying to paint this picture that, you know, someone showed up to Kenosha on some random day and just decided to shoot somebody.

00:47:09.000 Or they're even trying to say someone showed up to Kenosha at a peaceful protest and decided to shoot somebody.

00:47:14.000 That's not true!

00:47:15.000 That's what's getting me.

00:47:16.000 At all!

00:47:16.000 From what I've seen, I can't visualize the violence.

00:47:20.000 Like, how many buildings do you think got burned out?

00:47:23.000 Ugh, I gotta be careful with how I answer these questions, but there were multiple.

00:47:26.000 A range, like, a hundred, a thousand, twenty?

00:47:29.000 A range between fifteen and a hundred?

00:47:31.000 Whether, like, between a hundred and five hundred?

00:47:33.000 I have no idea.

00:47:34.000 I think it was single digits, right?

00:47:36.000 Yeah, yeah, Kenosha.

00:47:37.000 I would have to look at the footage, but there were multiple.

00:47:39.000 They're about single digits?

00:47:40.000 How many cars were burned out?

00:47:42.000 Oh man, they were smashing cars on camera.

00:47:44.000 They're just smashing all the windows and destroying... And like the car, that car store... Probably more than 50 on the first car dealership that night, yeah.

00:47:49.000 The car dealership was smashed out, but not burned out.

00:47:51.000 And I mean, that, this stuff is lost.

00:47:53.000 No, the first one, they burnt, they burnt all those cars down.

00:47:55.000 They burned the whole thing.

00:47:55.000 They huffed it.

00:47:56.000 The same thing happened in Ferguson.

00:47:57.000 I went, we went and filmed this and it was crazy.

00:48:00.000 It looked like Fallout 3.

00:48:01.000 They went to the dealerships and they poured, there's video of them carrying gas cans.

00:48:05.000 Dude, when I was in Ferguson, This was scary.

00:48:08.000 Not only were gunshots going off, but there was a point where we were driving down the road and we saw the people carrying the gas cans.

00:48:15.000 And we were like, they were yelling, and we were just like, keep driving, keep driving.

00:48:19.000 When you got rioters walking up with gas cans, guns, we were like, we're not gonna, we can't, we can't stop.

00:48:25.000 I don't, I don't remember if we got any footage of it.

00:48:27.000 We saw when we were like, this is where the danger level is too high, even for us, because they know we're reporters and that's where bad stuff goes down.

00:48:35.000 I got shot at on more than one occasion.

00:48:37.000 Now, I'm not saying, no one targeted me.

00:48:38.000 No one said, hey, look, it's simple and pull the trigger.

00:48:40.000 I was part of a group of journalists.

00:48:41.000 We're walking on the street.

00:48:42.000 Gunshots went off on more than one occasion.

00:48:44.000 I had to drop to the ground.

00:48:47.000 And it's not white supremacists doing this. 0.98

00:48:49.000 It was Black Lives Matter rioters who were shooting guns randomly at these events.

00:48:55.000 Do they not call them arsonists because they have to be convicted of arson before you can call someone an arsonist?

00:49:00.000 No, Ian, they're peaceful protesters creating harmonious chaos that, of course, works towards the political agenda of the nefarious global elite.

00:49:09.000 You know, that night, that first night in Kenosha, right in front of the courthouse to the right, there's like a dinosaur museum.

00:49:16.000 Antifa showed up, full black block.

00:49:19.000 And they were getting little black kids and they were they were like handing them things in order to burn down the museum and they broke the window and they were trying to burn down the building from inside the window. 0.97

00:49:30.000 This is what these people do.

00:49:32.000 Like they infiltrate some of these movements.

00:49:34.000 And they recruit certain people, they'll give them the shields, they'll give them equipment, they'll give them an umbrella, they'll give them something to do in order to commit some of their mass violence.

00:49:43.000 And a lot of people are like, well, is Antifa really organized?

00:49:45.000 Yeah, they are.

00:49:46.000 And sometimes they even do like literally on-the-job training with people that are just willing to commit crimes.

00:49:51.000 I want to talk about what this is really about.

00:49:54.000 The Kyle Rittenhouse case is about more than Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:49:56.000 It's about more than the riots.

00:49:58.000 This may be one of the most consequential cases of our lifetimes.

00:50:03.000 As the rioters traveled across the country last year, burning down buildings and smashing windows, with a reporting from Michael Tracy, some of the most important I've ever seen, where he actually went to these small towns you've never heard of and saw the damage from the riots.

00:50:16.000 They have defended these rioters.

00:50:18.000 They have protected people like Gage Grosskreutz when the prosecution instructed the detectives not to execute search warrants.

00:50:26.000 Take a look at this story from the Daily Caller.

00:50:28.000 The prosecutor in the Rittenhouse trial says, you lose the right to self-defense when you're the one who brought the gun.

00:50:36.000 A major component of this trial, this is not about Kyle Rittenhouse in the bigger picture.

00:50:41.000 It is about your right to keep and bear arms.

00:50:44.000 Now I will say, when you look at constitutional carry, gun rights have been winning.

00:50:50.000 But this is a major assault on the culture around it.

00:50:54.000 We can win in the courts, we can win in the legislature, but if they can set precedent that if you bear a gun, You are ALWAYS the provocateur, ALWAYS the instigator, and NEVER intended self-defense.

00:51:06.000 That's the argument being played here.

00:51:08.000 If the jury sides with the prosecution, you will start hearing attempts where they say, in the case of the State v. Rittenhouse, the jury found that, you know, if you're bringing a weapon to a fistfight, you are provoking, blah blah blah.

00:51:22.000 I don't... I'm probably getting this a bit wrong.

00:51:24.000 I'm not a lawyer, so maybe that context isn't correct.

00:51:26.000 Maybe the precedent has to be set from a judge or something like that as a question of law.

00:51:29.000 The point is, they're trying to make a cultural moment occur where Kyle Reynolds is guilty simply because he brought a gun.

00:51:35.000 Now, mind you, the question's been answered.

00:51:38.000 The judge... This was the most amazing moment.

00:51:40.000 I was like, yes!

00:51:40.000 I was screaming.

00:51:42.000 The judge said to the prosecution as a question of law, because that's what the judge deals with, The charge, count six, illegal possession of a deadly weapon by a person under 18.

00:51:55.000 He is exempt because he was 17.

00:51:57.000 He looks at the prosecution and said, can you prove the rifle he had was under 26 inches?

00:52:02.000 And Kraus goes, it was not under 26 inches.

00:52:05.000 And the judge goes, count six dismissed.

00:52:08.000 It was not an illegal weapon.

00:52:09.000 I think 16 inches is the correct length because if it's 15.9 it's 26 overall.

00:52:14.000 So barrel length is 16.

00:52:16.000 26 overall, I believe.

00:52:17.000 Or it might be 32, I'm not sure.

00:52:19.000 The point is, the judge definitively said, dismissed.

00:52:23.000 The law is not that complicated in my opinion.

00:52:26.000 It says, If you are under 18 and in violation of these provisions, which state?

00:52:32.000 You're under 16 without a permit, you're under 14 without a guardian or whatever, or you're hunting without a certificate.

00:52:39.000 Okay, well Kyle Rittenhouse is not violating any of those statutes.

00:52:42.000 17-year-olds are allowed to bear only rifles and shotguns.

00:52:46.000 Kyle Rittenhouse said he knew he couldn't have a handgun.

00:52:48.000 But I want to get back to the main point here that we need to make sure we're paying attention to.

00:52:52.000 If Kyle Rittenhouse loses, They have that argument.

00:52:55.000 They will use it.

00:52:56.000 It will become culture and law is meaningless in the face of culture.

00:53:00.000 I've pointed this out many times.

00:53:02.000 You guys all understand this.

00:53:03.000 There are laws like you can't put an apple pie on your window sill on Tuesday.

00:53:07.000 Those laws still exist.

00:53:08.000 They're archaic and no one will ever enforce them.

00:53:11.000 Well, it would be absurd because culturally, We don't do that anymore.

00:53:11.000 Why?

00:53:15.000 But the law's there, and they could get you.

00:53:17.000 Another problem?

00:53:18.000 Would a jury really convict you of an 1800s pie law or something like that?

00:53:22.000 Give you a fine?

00:53:23.000 I doubt they would.

00:53:24.000 But this is what's important.

00:53:26.000 If culture emerges, where in the media, in all of our institutions, if you have a gun, you are considered an instigator in any capacity, you will never be able to use a gun to defend yourself.

00:53:37.000 They will always convict you.

00:53:37.000 Really encourage people to watch the trial.

00:53:39.000 It's a blessing that we have this available, just to know, to see the smarminess of this guy and this little finger.

00:53:46.000 I mean, he looks like and acts like Little Finger.

00:53:47.000 It's crazy how much he's like Little Finger.

00:53:49.000 He does, yeah, it's true.

00:53:50.000 And Kyle, I mean, particularly Kyle's testimony, Because he's just like, uh, it was like his hometown, or like his dad lived there and it was like his city.

00:53:58.000 His grandma lives there, his dad lives there, he works there, his best friend's there, I think his cousin's there.

00:54:01.000 The CarMax is getting burnt down?

00:54:03.000 Is it CarMax or CarSource?

00:54:06.000 That's terrifying, man.

00:54:07.000 He's like a young American who was like, I need to defend my city. 1.00

00:54:10.000 It's really crazy how Ben and Jerry's lied.

00:54:13.000 This is the funniest thing.

00:54:15.000 Yes.

00:54:15.000 Right.

00:54:15.000 even ice cream lies. And we know Ben and Jerry's is full of garbage. But they tweeted, what what if a 17 year old, you

00:54:21.000 know, black person, care, a black kid carried a rifle across illegally across state lines and killed three white 0.99

00:54:27.000 people, as if what happened was a white person carried up and across state lines and killed three black people, which 0.98

00:54:32.000 it didn't have skin color did not matter when they were charging at that guy. I don't care if Kyle Rittenhouse is 0.55

00:54:38.000 white, black, Asian, male, female, five feet tall, six feet tall. What if

00:54:42.000 It's funny how they're like, this is really important for self-defense as well.

00:54:46.000 Cenk Uygur was like, so how would the right feel if a black teenager brought a rifle to a protest and then shot people and claimed self-defense?

00:54:53.000 And every two-way person was like, oh, we would defend him. 0.80

00:54:55.000 Oh, for sure.

00:54:57.000 You know what I really love?

00:54:58.000 When I was tweeting about 2A and the absolute rights, and people were like, I'd like to see you defend the Black Panthers having guns, Tim. 0.95

00:55:06.000 And I said something like, abso-effing-lutely, every Black Panther should be armed, they're allowed to walk down those streets, they're allowed to be in this country, going wherever they please, with whatever gun they want. 0.94

00:55:18.000 And then these socialists were like, based.

00:55:20.000 I'm like, do you think we don't want people to have the right to bear arms and defend themselves?

00:55:23.000 Exactly.

00:55:24.000 It's for everybody.

00:55:25.000 It's for everybody.

00:55:26.000 That's an American citizen.

00:55:27.000 We have the Second Amendment here in the United States, whether left or right.

00:55:30.000 And it's like they've made it like it's all people.

00:55:33.000 But what's interesting is how this has been so spun.

00:55:37.000 If Kyle gets convicted, he will be the poster child for an active shooter.

00:55:41.000 And anytime there's some kind of active shooting, this is not an active shooting situation, but they're going to use it as that.

00:55:47.000 So now moving forward in the United States of America, whenever we do have some kind of situation like that, Kyle Rittenhouse, he will become some kind of poster child that's going to be used to attack the Second Amendment at the same time.

00:55:59.000 But this is what they do.

00:56:00.000 They'll take something that's a minority. 0.90

00:56:04.000 I mean, we have active shootings happen in the United States, right?

00:56:08.000 But it's not like this insane pandemic or crazy thing that's happening in the United States that's out of control.

00:56:15.000 For the most part, people are responsible gun owners, right?

00:56:18.000 But they do the same thing with COVID as well.

00:56:20.000 There's a minority of numbers, but they blasted across the entire society where everyone has to be on lockdown, even though there's a minority of people that could actually die from it.

00:56:29.000 They do this with everything.

00:56:30.000 They take the minority and they just spread it everywhere. 1.00

00:56:32.000 I want to address that.

00:56:32.000 I don't think, first of all, Let me just say, I want to say, I had COVID and I had it really, really bad.

00:56:38.000 Me too.

00:56:40.000 Did you have it really, really bad?

00:56:41.000 Yeah, I survived.

00:56:42.000 Me and Ian had it really bad.

00:56:45.000 But I want to say this.

00:56:47.000 I got really sick.

00:56:48.000 Other people didn't get really sick.

00:56:49.000 Some people got sniffles.

00:56:50.000 And so this is why I'm like, I actually think COVID's bad and we want to take it seriously, but we can't do a one-size-fits-all policy.

00:56:57.000 But I don't want to just get into COVID.

00:56:57.000 That's my point.

00:57:00.000 My main issue with it is, I don't think it's necessarily that the media and the establishment... I should say the establishment and the elites do this on purpose.

00:57:10.000 But for the bigger picture in the media, the reason why they highlight every fringe case, the reason why it seems like the apocalypse is happening with COVID is because the media finds the story and reports it, but they don't report the non-story.

00:57:24.000 So this is what happens with Antifa.

00:57:27.000 Antifa goes out and they punch someone in the face.

00:57:29.000 Is that national news?

00:57:31.000 No, of course not.

00:57:32.000 This is not.

00:57:33.000 They do it 500 times.

00:57:34.000 Not a single instance is national news.

00:57:37.000 They riot across the country.

00:57:39.000 Some of it reaches national news.

00:57:42.000 Because it is low-level sustained terrorism, we don't hear about it all that much.

00:57:47.000 The mainstream media, first of all, the establishment, they're biased.

00:57:51.000 Kamala Harris actively fundraised for these people, so of course there's that.

00:57:55.000 And then there's the media component of local news outlets, for instance, that aren't as, you know, not always wrapped up in the manipulation.

00:58:01.000 Local news outlets do a good job, but they're not going to report on a guy getting punched.

00:58:05.000 Now what happens if one fringe far-right winger gets a gun and goes and commits an atrocity?

00:58:11.000 International headlines.

00:58:13.000 And rightly so.

00:58:14.000 I think rightly so.

00:58:14.000 Absolutely.

00:58:15.000 It's abhorrent.

00:58:15.000 It's bad.

00:58:16.000 We gotta stop these people before they can take, you know, carry this stuff out.

00:58:19.000 It's difficult to figure out how to do that, but everyone will hear about it.

00:58:22.000 And then, for those of us that are in the news and reading the stories, we know that Antifa does this.

00:58:29.000 Well it's not just little crimes I mean there's people burned alive there's people shot there was a police officer trying to stop looting that was literally shot point-blank on on live streams and it went viral on the internet but it wasn't really that prominently talked on the mainstream media but I but I think what's happening here is that Obviously this case is politically polarized obviously ... a lot of ways on this particular case and I think ... that's why there's so much attention on it there so much ... hype on it because I think the establishment wants to use ... this case as an example of you can't defend yourself if you ... are going on or you have a gun you get attacked.

00:59:04.000 I really want to be careful with the left and the right.

00:59:06.000 Leftists, socialists, love guns.

00:59:07.000 assertion that they're making which essentially will leave a ...

00:59:10.000 lot of people defenseless and I think that's why a lot of ...

00:59:13.000 people who are Pro second a are are you know by is this case ...

00:59:16.000 and obviously have something that weighs for them in this ...

00:59:19.000 matter for the left a lot of their agenda weighs on this ...

00:59:22.000 court decision so this is going to have a huge ramifications I ...

00:59:25.000 really want to be careful with the left and the right leftist ...

00:59:29.000 Socialist love guns for everybody to a stir everybody it.

00:59:32.000 It is younger, populist, socialist, lefty types.

00:59:36.000 They are for gun rights. 0.91

00:59:37.000 It is the establishment, liberal, democratic, neoliberal... Authoritarian for the most part.

00:59:42.000 They want to strip away your rights. 0.97

00:59:44.000 To go to Luke's point, I think you're right.

00:59:46.000 Real quick, I'm sorry, I gotta say one real quick thing on this.

00:59:49.000 I can't let this one slide.

00:59:50.000 The left loves guns until... The leftists love guns until they get the power, then they'll take your guns.

00:59:56.000 Yeah, I think to go to Luke's point is, I think they might even want to do this to discourage people from even wanting to buy a gun in the first place.

01:00:06.000 Oh, you want to buy a gun for self-defense?

01:00:08.000 Well, look what happened to Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:00:10.000 If Kyle gets convicted, right?

01:00:14.000 I'm speaking hypothetically.

01:00:15.000 Oh, you want to buy a gun for self-defense?

01:00:17.000 Well, look what happened to him.

01:00:19.000 If that happens to you, you're gonna end up in that position too.

01:00:22.000 So I think that could potentially discourage an entire generation from even wanting to own a firearm and literally uphold their Second Amendment.

01:00:30.000 Even without the verdict!

01:00:31.000 Look at the way that the mainstream media responded to this.

01:00:34.000 They called him a white supremacist, they called him an active shooter, they called him guilty.

01:00:38.000 Without even the trial beginning big ... tech social media censored people mainstream media ... organizations we should corporate media organization ... showed up at people's doors for donating $10 to him people ... who were in the police departments were fired for ... donating $25 for him so so already we're having him kind of.

01:00:59.000 Prosecuted in the eyes of big tech social media the corporate ... media which is going to discourage a lot of people ... already with this trial that happened with a lot of people's ... viewpoints we have to understand no matter what the ... jury decides here there's a bigger verdict that's going to ... be kind of decided by the general public here that ... absolutely ways and I think you could see that today by some of ...

01:01:21.000 He looks like he's reacting to a lot of the outside ... influences here that are trying to push for a particular ... outcome for this case so when this happens I mean this to me ... is just like the perfect divide-and-conquer agenda I ... think this is why we're getting so much play on it because ... there's so much weighing on this and I think a lot of the ... establishment are seeing this as an opportunity to ram ... through a lot of their absolutely crazy policies that ... would disarm people that would leave them defenseless.

01:01:47.000 And at the end of the day, I mean, I don't know if this is the perfect case to make a stand here, but this is a very offensive case that the establishment is making here.

01:01:55.000 I'm actually scared.

01:01:56.000 If Kyle Rittenhouse does get convicted.

01:01:59.000 This is not the story of an evil ideologue.

01:02:02.000 This is the story of a 17-year-old who said, I want to help everybody.

01:02:07.000 This is the story of a 17-year-old who went to Kenosha, where his father lives, where his grandmother lives, where he works, where his best friend lives, where he drives through every day and said, I will actively help even those who are rioting, who rendered aid to people and asked if they needed medical assistance, even though he's clearly not with them as an ideologue or a protester.

01:02:28.000 Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't there for the right, he wasn't there for the left, he was just there to help.

01:02:34.000 He didn't want fires, he didn't want destruction, and he didn't want those protesting to get hurt either.

01:02:39.000 So I keep bringing this up, but it's something Steven Crowder talked about.

01:02:42.000 He says, this isn't really Kyle on trial here, which is great poetry.

01:02:47.000 Oh, great.

01:02:47.000 I've got to adjust my mic.

01:02:48.000 Yeah, turn it up a little bit.

01:02:49.000 Yeah, hold on.

01:02:50.000 Let me adjust that.

01:02:51.000 This isn't Kyle on trial.

01:02:52.000 You guys can hear me?

01:02:53.000 How's that?

01:02:53.000 Is that better?

01:02:53.000 Yeah, this is all of us on trial.

01:02:54.000 Yeah, it is.

01:02:55.000 It's everyone.

01:02:56.000 And he's right, because Kyle is a normal person who's just trying to help his community.

01:03:00.000 And people took issue with this being his community because he didn't live there.

01:03:02.000 He worked there.

01:03:03.000 He had family there.

01:03:04.000 Like, if this isn't your community, what is your community?

01:03:06.000 It's not just your literal neighborhood.

01:03:09.000 Yes, definitely his community.

01:03:10.000 Or your government address.

01:03:11.000 Right, exactly.

01:03:12.000 Kenosha was a crime scene.

01:03:13.000 It was a crime scene.

01:03:14.000 It was literally a crime scene, and what people need to understand is there was a threat to the community.

01:03:20.000 I mean, when I came, okay, the first night I was there, I drove back to Chicago, did a hit with Fox that night, and then went all the way back the third night back to the Kenosha scene.

01:03:30.000 When I got back, I was talking to some of the locals.

01:03:32.000 I interviewed them.

01:03:33.000 I asked them, are you a Black Lives Matter supporter?

01:03:36.000 This is on Twitter, Drew H. Live.

01:03:37.000 You can see the interview.

01:03:38.000 I asked her, are you a Black Lives Matter supporter in broad daylight?

01:03:41.000 And I was like, do you condone the violent rioting?

01:03:45.000 And she says, yes, this is the only way that we can have our voices heard.

01:03:49.000 You were there the first night and the third night?

01:03:52.000 This is the day of the Kyle Rittenhouse shooting.

01:03:55.000 I'm asking these kind of questions to these people, and this is what they're saying, okay?

01:03:59.000 So, also I'm walking around, I'm talking to some of the locals, I interviewed the people that had their businesses burned down to the ground, and they're just confused.

01:04:06.000 They're like, what do we have to do with Jacob Blake?

01:04:09.000 Right.

01:04:09.000 And I'm walking around the community.

01:04:11.000 You're seeing boarded up windows.

01:04:13.000 They're writing, children live here on them.

01:04:16.000 Why do you think they're doing that?

01:04:16.000 For peaceful protesters?

01:04:18.000 You think they're scared of peaceful protesters?

01:04:20.000 No.

01:04:21.000 There's violent criminals that showed up with a political agenda to burn down a building that had to burn down a community that had nothing to do with them.

01:04:27.000 Even right now, Tim, right now, when I was in Kenosha, I'm driving down the street.

01:04:31.000 I show up.

01:04:32.000 I'm just kind of like having flashbacks.

01:04:33.000 I'm like looking around.

01:04:34.000 I'm like, this is crazy.

01:04:36.000 Surreal to be here again.

01:04:37.000 I drive by a building.

01:04:38.000 It's a senior citizen home.

01:04:40.000 The building is boarded up right now.

01:04:42.000 Wow.

01:04:43.000 And it says right now on the building the same thing.

01:04:45.000 Senior citizens live here.

01:04:47.000 Even right now, they're afraid.

01:04:49.000 They're not afraid.

01:04:50.000 Why?

01:04:50.000 Why are they afraid right now?

01:04:52.000 Why are they?

01:04:52.000 Because there's a threat, even right now.

01:04:54.000 Why is the National Guard called out right now?

01:04:56.000 Because of peaceful protesters?

01:04:58.000 Yes.

01:04:58.000 Because, hold on.

01:04:59.000 Has anyone reported we expect a guilty verdict?

01:05:02.000 No.

01:05:03.000 Across the board, from Chris Hayes to Anna Kasparian, the narrative has been we were wrong about Kyle Rittenhouse, he's gonna be acquitted.

01:05:10.000 Now they're preparing for riots.

01:05:12.000 How long can they keep lying to the American people about what the violence is, who the violence is coming from?

01:05:20.000 Well, but, why don't we talk about Rosenbaum's criminal record?

01:05:23.000 Yes.

01:05:24.000 So, we gotta be very careful in how we describe this.

01:05:27.000 Joseph Rosenbaum, I will say this right away.

01:05:27.000 Yeah.

01:05:31.000 I'm sad he lost his life.

01:05:32.000 A lot of people wouldn't say that.

01:05:34.000 I don't agree with the death penalty, but he should have stayed locked up.

01:05:38.000 If he stayed locked up for the atrocities he committed against children, none of this would have happened.

01:05:43.000 And I wish he was still alive for more than just his own sake, but Kyle Rittenhouse wouldn't be put in this position.

01:05:49.000 He wouldn't have to go out and defend his community from violent rioters.

01:05:52.000 He wouldn't have to worry about injuries among those violent rioters that he was still trying to help.

01:05:58.000 But I don't believe in the death penalty.

01:05:59.000 I don't.

01:06:00.000 I think it's wrong.

01:06:01.000 I think you can't snuff out a life like that.

01:06:03.000 And it's very difficult because I don't know how we deal with people like Rosenbaum.

01:06:06.000 But let me stress.

01:06:07.000 Joseph Rosenbaum is an individual who committed atrocities.

01:06:11.000 And I mean that when I say atrocity.

01:06:13.000 Because I can't get into specific details.

01:06:15.000 The details of what Rosenbaum did to children are so graphic and vile that YouTube might actually give me a strike simply for saying it.

01:06:25.000 They will suppress, demonetize, and potentially remove because the description of what Rosenbaum was convicted of is an atrocity against a child.

01:06:34.000 An adult action forced on children.

01:06:38.000 More than one.

01:06:39.000 Nine, I believe.

01:06:40.000 I don't know.

01:06:41.000 I don't know the exact number.

01:06:42.000 Multiple.

01:06:44.000 Multiple people.

01:06:45.000 Well, he did.

01:06:47.000 He was pushing every single button. 0.99

01:06:49.000 He was saying shoot him. 0.82

01:06:50.000 That night, Joseph Rosenbaum was pushing every single button to get into some kind of violent confrontation. 0.99

01:06:57.000 He was requesting to be shot.

01:06:59.000 Joseph Rosenbaum, right now.

01:07:01.000 Shout out to Julio Rojas.

01:07:03.000 If you're watching, Julio, he reported today he's in Kenosha.

01:07:06.000 There are literally protesters outside with signs with Joseph Rosenbaum dressed as Superman as if he's some kind of fallen hero.

01:07:13.000 That is just 100% false.

01:07:15.000 Aside from the pedophilic practices he had in his life, that night he was violent.

01:07:20.000 There's nothing heroic about Joseph Rosenbaum in any way, shape, or form.

01:07:23.000 I want to be very, very careful.

01:07:24.000 Let people call me biased, okay?

01:07:26.000 I am biased. 0.96

01:07:27.000 I have a problem with pedophiles.

01:07:29.000 I want to be very, very careful.

01:07:31.000 But I think it's important to point out what Ian just said.

01:07:33.000 He was yelling, shoot me over and over again.

01:07:35.000 Yep.

01:07:36.000 This is why I'm bringing up this charge because you better believe it.

01:07:40.000 When I tweet about this stuff, the left gets really, really mad.

01:07:43.000 But this matters.

01:07:44.000 Now, the judge said he doesn't want the jury to know that Rosenbaum committed atrocities against several children.

01:07:51.000 He was targeting them.

01:07:52.000 He was going after them.

01:07:53.000 He went to prison for it because the jury might say, wow, we don't care if it was self-defense or not at that point.

01:08:01.000 I think the judge made the right call, and the jury should not have heard that, but I counter.

01:08:07.000 It was, I believe, DeBruin, or DeBruin was his name?

01:08:09.000 Yeah, DeBruin.

01:08:10.000 The photographer?

01:08:11.000 Yeah.

01:08:11.000 Said, Joseph Rosenbaum yelled, I don't care if I go back to jail.

01:08:15.000 Yeah, he did.

01:08:16.000 And when that happened, the state objected, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, the jury can't know that.

01:08:20.000 No, they can.

01:08:21.000 And the defense said it's what he yelled at the moment.

01:08:25.000 He's not stating the past of this individual.

01:08:28.000 But here's what I believe.

01:08:30.000 First, I will say it again.

01:08:32.000 I'm really, really sad that this guy lost his life.

01:08:36.000 I'm really sad that he was distressed and messed up to such an insane degree.

01:08:40.000 I'm sad that a human being could become so destructive and be so evil and wrong.

01:08:45.000 And this person, they say, was in a mental hospital or a jail, and he should have stayed there. 0.95

01:08:50.000 I'm sad for the little kids he raped. 0.96

01:08:53.000 But listen, and you're right. 0.87

01:08:55.000 Rosenbaum shows up on the day he gets out of jail.

01:08:59.000 He's not part of any movement.

01:09:00.000 He's not there in support of any message.

01:09:03.000 That's my opinion.

01:09:04.000 Because he hasn't been part of a movement, he's been in prison for what he did to these children.

01:09:09.000 and he comes out and says shoot me and he comes out and says I don't care if I go back to jail

01:09:13.000 those words to me sound like someone who is depressed, distraught, hates themselves,

01:09:18.000 potentially suicidal and for this lashes out with violent tendencies and projects that onto other

01:09:24.000 people creating the risk against people like Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:09:28.000 This is a very very touchy subject.

01:09:31.000 Yeah, well, we've got to be careful with our words here, but more importantly, you know, people with his charges, and he was charged on 11 incidences with 5 kids, all boys aged 9 to 11, that's the context here, I'm not going to get into the specifics here, but people who have his rap sheet do not have a good time in jail.

01:09:51.000 They are targets, they are obviously punished by other prisoners, and prisoners, of course, Take these individuals and they do other unspeakable ... things to them as their own form of justice to these types ... of specific criminals so for him to say that he wants to be ... back in a place where he's in jail where he has not just the ... prison guards against them not just the prison staff but the ... prisoners against him who are known for committing atrocities ... against these specific types of people.

01:10:22.000 Shows you someone that is obviously not in a right state of mind, obviously was not doing very well, and obviously something that is a very horrible situation overall.

01:10:32.000 I think that was relevant to this case because it shows you that perhaps what Rosenbaum was... what motivated him was mental illness.

01:10:42.000 Yes.

01:10:42.000 And I don't mean that to disparage people who have mental illness.

01:10:45.000 As I'm saying, this man was unwell to a very extreme degree.

01:10:49.000 I think if the jury understood that, it would be a very, very different picture.

01:10:53.000 A picture of a protester who was angry and destructive or a mentally ill man who had committed very serious crimes, was lashing out and threatening other people.

01:11:03.000 I believe it's important to stress.

01:11:06.000 I know Tucker Carlson said it very bluntly, but I'll say it very, you know, much more delicately.

01:11:12.000 Rosenbaum had committed violent atrocities against children.

01:11:17.000 He has a tendency towards violence against other people, not just in this moment.

01:11:22.000 Telling the jury this man has a history of violence against others is extremely important to let them know it was not a one-off moment where a protester got mad at somebody.

01:11:33.000 They're arguing provocation.

01:11:35.000 That's what the state said, that Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum by threatening Zeminsky and Rosenbaum acted in defense of others.

01:11:41.000 They actually argued that.

01:11:43.000 If the jury had known, no, Rosenbaum has been violent for decades against minors, against children, against other people, and this is a part of a pattern of abuse he's committed in his life, they might say, a mentally ill man And I'm not trying to disparage them mentally.

01:11:59.000 I mean, this is very important.

01:12:00.000 Someone who needs to be locked up for their own safety and the safety of others was just released.

01:12:08.000 Attacked somebody and you know what?

01:12:10.000 Why would that surprise the state who released him?

01:12:15.000 They know he's violent.

01:12:16.000 They know he's dangerous.

01:12:18.000 And the day he gets out, he attacks another person.

01:12:21.000 I think the jury should have known that.

01:12:23.000 I think that the jury should have been told he's committed violent felonies against children.

01:12:29.000 So when you take into consideration why he attacked Kyle Rittenhouse, understand this was not somebody who's never done it before.

01:12:37.000 It's someone with a pattern of abuse.

01:12:42.000 I don't understand why they can't tell you that he has that history of abuse.

01:12:45.000 Can you explain that for me?

01:12:47.000 The concern is, what he did in the past, he paid his debt to society, he went to prison, he got released.

01:12:54.000 It shouldn't be a factor in whether or not Kyle Rittenhouse was defending himself from him.

01:12:59.000 But I would argue, first of all, I would say that's a fair point.

01:13:03.000 And I think the judge, for the most part, was right in that regard. 0.74

01:13:07.000 The judge is trying to make sure, whether it's for conviction or for acquittal, the jury just hears.

01:13:14.000 what happened that night. And that's why he kicked out a lot of the evidence from later on,

01:13:18.000 because it was prejudicial. And so it's a fair point. But if Freddy Krueger goes in and with

01:13:26.000 his knife hands slashes up a teenager, and then is on trial, and they say, don't let anyone know

01:13:32.000 that he has a history of attacking children.

01:13:34.000 In their dreams.

01:13:35.000 In their dreams.

01:13:35.000 Which is also real life.

01:13:37.000 But my point is, isn't it fair to be like, if Freddy Krueger attacks a teenage girl, and then she casts a spell, and then he turns into a rat and then explodes, I'm being very, very offensive.

01:13:48.000 Like, if he's defeated in the dreams, and they're like, oh, they killed Freddy Krueger, it's like, can the court please hear about the teenagers whose dreams he's invaded in the past?

01:13:57.000 Because he does this to everyone.

01:13:59.000 It's not one-off, it's not one moment.

01:14:02.000 Rosenbaum has a violent, abusive history.

01:14:09.000 Just really quick before I turn it to you.

01:14:11.000 Do we know why he was released?

01:14:13.000 Was it an effort by some politicians who wanted to get people out of prison?

01:14:17.000 Because there was a big effort underway during that summer where a lot of hardened criminals were released on the streets in the name of prison reform.

01:14:24.000 So it'll be interesting to know.

01:14:25.000 I don't know.

01:14:26.000 I don't know those details.

01:14:27.000 Or the lockdowns.

01:14:27.000 I don't know if anyone does.

01:14:28.000 I don't know what was happening.

01:14:30.000 Or COVID.

01:14:30.000 I'm sure it was COVID.

01:14:32.000 And how long had he been in jail or in prison before that day?

01:14:35.000 Yeah, I'm curious, too.

01:14:36.000 Any of you guys know?

01:14:37.000 Yeah, Tim's looking it up right now, but I was gonna say, I'm really glad that the judge said that it needed to be allowed, that he yelled out, I'm not afraid to go back to prison, because that really puts a spotlight on him having been in prison and literally acting like he has nothing to lose, which I think really lends to Tim's point that he might have definitely been I mean, just observing the behavior from that night, I could say without a shadow of a doubt, and I have the footage to back it up as well, not just an eyewitness, this is not my opinion, Joseph Rosenbaum was a threat to those around him, to the community, to himself, to everybody, even to the police that night.

01:15:14.000 Okay?

01:15:15.000 And you could take a look at the footage, and everything that I'm saying is 100% true, because he was a threat to every single one of those people.

01:15:22.000 And to me, I think it's just obvious when you are literally just so open to say, shoot me, shoot me, n-word.

01:15:31.000 Literally trying to get into a physical confrontation with somebody with a gun, the people at the gas station.

01:15:37.000 I think people just decide for themselves.

01:15:38.000 He chased someone armed with a rifle.

01:15:42.000 This comes out of testimony, right?

01:15:44.000 When he chased him and grabbed his gun.

01:15:45.000 Is that on video?

01:15:47.000 Not only are there multiple angles of him doing it, the medical examiner said there was blast burns on his hand.

01:15:53.000 Because his hand was on the gun.

01:15:56.000 And it was on Rikada's stream, I think.

01:15:59.000 Someone mentioned that the moment you have your hand on someone else's gun, it's now dual possession.

01:16:04.000 Right.

01:16:04.000 So that means, I don't know if that's true in Wisconsin.

01:16:07.000 Maybe it's not, because I think maybe the defense would have argued it.

01:16:09.000 Maybe they missed this one.

01:16:11.000 Rosenbaum was in possession of a rifle.

01:16:13.000 He also concealed his identity.

01:16:16.000 So if you guys look at my footage and you see when Rosenbaum is in the ultimate gas station and he's getting crazy with the people with the rifle saying, shoot me inward, shoot me inward.

01:16:26.000 He's throwing his body on people, he's just getting crazy, but then he retreats to the street.

01:16:32.000 And when he retreats to the street, that's when he conceals his identity with his shirt.

01:16:35.000 He takes his shirt off and then he conceals his identity.

01:16:38.000 And then, this is the footage that I submitted that they played in the middle of the trial that nobody's ever seen before, is once he retreated to the street, concealed his identity, he's committing arson again.

01:16:47.000 He's lighting another trash can on fire.

01:16:49.000 And it's two minutes, I timed it, two minutes and five seconds between he's committing arson and charging Kyle Rittenhouse from behind.

01:16:57.000 It was really amazing how we've seen leftist activists lie, claiming that Kyle Rittenhouse was chasing Rosenbaum, how the prosecution tried claiming that he aimed his weapon at him, which is absurd, And then, when Kyle Rittenhouse was telling his story in his first bit of testimony, and they get to that point where he's surrounded, Zeminsky armed, Rosenbaum running at him, and he just breaks down, hyperventilating, and they all said, he's not crying, he's not crying, all these angry anti-Rittenhouse, you know, lefty type people.

01:17:29.000 And when you look at the video, which is low resolution and grainy, you can't really see anything on his face.

01:17:34.000 You can see some reflection.

01:17:36.000 When you look at the high-res photographs from photographers, you can see the tears coming down his face.

01:17:41.000 When I saw that, look man, either Kyle Rittenhouse deserves an Oscar for that performance, or the reality was, the kids, it was revealed by the defense, he's in therapy.

01:17:55.000 For what he went through.

01:17:56.000 That was the moment that he realized he was trapped.

01:17:58.000 I listened to that.

01:17:59.000 He said that Zeminsky's in front of him and then to his right he looks and he sees Rosenbaum running at him.

01:18:04.000 He looks to his left and there's three people and then he stops and he breaks down.

01:18:07.000 He's reliving that moment when he realized, I can't get away.

01:18:12.000 I'm not gonna be able to escape tonight.

01:18:14.000 There were people blocking him everywhere he looked.

01:18:16.000 So he ran towards an opening and that's where the guy chased him.

01:18:21.000 I would pose this question, and it's speculation, pure speculation.

01:18:26.000 How would have this story ended if Kyle didn't fire?

01:18:29.000 Same thing leading up, everything's the same.

01:18:32.000 Everything's the same.

01:18:33.000 Rosenbaum's violent behavior the whole night, everything's the same leading up to that moment, but Kyle didn't fire.

01:18:39.000 What would have happened?

01:18:40.000 I don't know.

01:18:41.000 Well, I'll give you my honest opinion, which is pure speculation and random thought.

01:18:45.000 Yeah.

01:18:46.000 I don't think Rosenbaum would have taken that weapon and used it on other people.

01:18:48.000 The defense, uh, Calrint now specified that.

01:18:51.000 And I believe it's reasonable to assume that because he was destructive, he was burning things down.

01:18:56.000 But it's hard for me...

01:18:58.000 Because there's that bias in all of us.

01:18:59.000 It can't happen here, that idea.

01:19:01.000 You know, so when I was reading the story about ADA binger pointing a rifle at the jury, I'm like, I'm digging up a story after story trying to fact check this because I'm like, there's no way the prosecutor would aim a rifle finger on the trigger at the jury!

01:19:14.000 And the reporting says he did, and so I'm like, this is why I use NewsGuard, and people laugh because Microsoft funded, and I'm like, because it's not about what I want to believe, it's about what the news reported happened.

01:19:26.000 And maybe they're wrong, and maybe they'll correct, and I'll issue a correction, but that's what happened.

01:19:30.000 When it comes to what happened with the defense, they said, Kyle said he feared that if he got that weapon, he would use it on Kyle, and he would use it on others.

01:19:39.000 I believe there is a strong, strong likelihood Rosenbaum would have used that rifle on Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:19:46.000 I don't believe he would have started using it on others.

01:19:50.000 I believe that's where things get a little exaggerated.

01:19:52.000 However, consider, if he... So what I mean to say is, I don't think that Rosenbaum was in this frame of mind where he would take a rifle and just randomly gun people down.

01:20:05.000 That's what they say about Rittenhouse.

01:20:06.000 Like, he was just a mass shooter.

01:20:07.000 He was an active shooter.

01:20:08.000 He was going to do this.

01:20:09.000 However, what would have happened if Rosenbaum got the gun and shot Kyle?

01:20:13.000 People would have screamed, yo, he just shot that dude.

01:20:16.000 Richie would have run up and rendered aid to Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:20:19.000 People would have started screaming at Rosenbaum.

01:20:21.000 Rosenbaum would have started running.

01:20:23.000 Someone would have run up and hit him with a skateboard.

01:20:25.000 Rosenbaum would start firing on people.

01:20:27.000 So in that regard, The mob would have attacked him, not knowing who he was, or caring who he was, and then he would have used that rifle on people.

01:20:34.000 It's definitely the problem of letting go of your rifle in a situation like that.

01:20:37.000 You can't do it because of that.

01:20:39.000 Because of the possibility that the guy's gonna go hostile with the weapon. 0.76

01:20:42.000 But I do know that Zamiski, or according to Kyle's testimony, told Rosenbaum, catch him and kill him. 0.98

01:20:48.000 I don't know if those are exact words, or if it was grab him, catch him, and kill him. 0.88

01:20:51.000 He said, get him, get him, get him. 0.99

01:20:52.000 He said, cranny him, that boy.

01:20:54.000 Cranny him, that guy. 0.99

01:20:55.000 People were screaming all sorts of stuff about killing Kyle, so in his mind, you know, Best case scenario, if he lets go of the rifle, he's going to get shot and killed. 0.61

01:21:03.000 You know, that night, man, in the middle of that riot, the mob mentality for two days straight was already at a 100.

01:21:11.000 They're burning down buildings.

01:21:12.000 It's at a 100.

01:21:13.000 They're going, they're going, they're going.

01:21:15.000 But after Kyle shot Rosenbaum, it went from like 100 to 1,000.

01:21:20.000 They just were... Where is he?

01:21:22.000 Where is he?

01:21:23.000 They even punched Richie, right?

01:21:25.000 Like when Richie was carrying Rosenbaum to take him to the car where they were going to transport him because they thought it was Richie that shot him.

01:21:31.000 They were just... It went from a hundred to a thousand.

01:21:34.000 That's the only way I could describe it.

01:21:36.000 It was the mob mentality on steroids.

01:21:39.000 They were looking for him.

01:21:40.000 Where is he?

01:21:41.000 They were seeking to identify him.

01:21:44.000 I can only assume as to why.

01:21:46.000 I don't think they wanted to have a conversation with a mob.

01:21:49.000 And let's not let's not forget there were many other incidences across this country where right wingers were

01:21:54.000 shot by leftist activists.

01:21:57.000 Some more assassinated.

01:21:58.000 Some were shot during altercation.

01:22:00.000 But these incidences happened with the same exact almost situation but different political ideologies at the

01:22:07.000 at different ends of them.

01:22:08.000 So to have one of these highlighted and the other ones ignored literally brings up the larger question of what's

01:22:14.000 really going on here with the spin the play the attention that all

01:22:17.000 of this getting I think it's deliberate and I think there's a

01:22:19.000 big big big agenda behind all of this.

01:22:22.000 They don't they don't they don't want us to have guns man.

01:22:24.000 You know, the most annoying thing to me is when I see these memes from establishment Democrat types saying, like, no one's trying to ban your guns, and I'm like, first of all, in West Virginia, for the most part, there's a lot of guns that are not banned, I'm allowed to have, but you can't bring them to Virginia, you can't bring them to Maryland, you can't bring them to New Jersey.

01:22:42.000 It's scary in New Jersey.

01:22:42.000 I went to a gun store, and they had a certain weapon.

01:22:47.000 It was an other firearm.

01:22:48.000 And I'll just leave it at that because I don't want to get into too much details about the weapons I own.

01:22:52.000 And when I was buying it, I was like, oh, I really want to buy that.

01:22:54.000 It's a great weapon.

01:22:55.000 And the guy said, you're going to need this certificate proving it's legal.

01:22:58.000 And I was like, what?

01:22:59.000 Why?

01:22:59.000 He's like, carry it with you at all times if you ever have this in your possession.

01:23:02.000 And I was like, what?

01:23:03.000 Why?

01:23:04.000 Because based on how it looks, it's illegal.

01:23:06.000 It is banned in New Jersey.

01:23:07.000 And I'm like, it's just a 9mm.

01:23:09.000 It's a 9mm rifle, basically.

01:23:11.000 That's what it was.

01:23:12.000 And I was like, what?

01:23:13.000 That's banned?

01:23:14.000 Well, no.

01:23:15.000 But a cop wouldn't understand that and he'd probably arrest you for it.

01:23:18.000 And I was like, dude, this is crazy. 0.88

01:23:19.000 Crazy.

01:23:20.000 You know, what you said, what did you say earlier, it's not so much leftists that don't like guns, what did you say, like neo-socialists? 0.86

01:23:27.000 Establishment neoliberal types.

01:23:29.000 No, no, the neo-socialist youth love guns until they gain power.

01:23:33.000 But I want to encourage them, because they seem so afraid of firearms and so afraid of guns, whether it's a handgun or a rifle, shotgun, whatever, right?

01:23:43.000 They're so afraid.

01:23:45.000 I want to encourage you guys that are listening, go to a gun range.

01:23:49.000 You will see it is probably one of those safest places in your community for two reasons.

01:23:53.000 If anything goes down at a gun range, you're going to be safe.

01:23:56.000 But number two, the practices at a gun range are, at least all the ones I've ever been to, are super safe.

01:24:03.000 People are constantly checking, checking, checking, checking.

01:24:06.000 Everyone's watching each other's backs.

01:24:08.000 Everyone is fully aware of what's happening with each other.

01:24:11.000 Is this loaded?

01:24:11.000 Is that it?

01:24:13.000 And I think a lot of people haven't experienced that so they think it's just like so it's like like the bat cave and there's all these guns come out and everyone's irresponsible and just want to kill people you know I would encourage people to check that out.

01:24:23.000 You're right but I understand why they feel that way when you watch the prosecutor in a case involving possession of a gun Pointing the rifle at the jury with his finger on the trigger.

01:24:34.000 The state prosecutor would be kicked out of a gun range if he did that.

01:24:37.000 Yes.

01:24:38.000 He would be not allowed.

01:24:39.000 He'd be banned for life.

01:24:40.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:24:41.000 I mean, this is just absolutely insane and credulous behavior that deserves to be called out.

01:24:45.000 I'm surprised no one's really talking about this as much as they should.

01:24:47.000 Little finger on the trigger.

01:24:49.000 I want to shout out chat for saying little binger, by the way. 1.00

01:24:54.000 If, if, if ADA binger, was outside in West Virginia and he was walking down the street and he went up to somebody in full view of a huge crowd of people and said, have you checked that?

01:25:09.000 Is it unloaded?

01:25:10.000 Grabbed it, then pointed at the crowd. 0.99

01:25:12.000 Someone would shoot him. 0.97

01:25:13.000 Not guaranteed. 0.52

01:25:14.000 I don't want to be over-hyperbolic, but some people would probably raise their guns and be like, drop it!

01:25:18.000 Drop it now! 1.00

01:25:19.000 Aiming a rifle at a crowd of people. 0.98

01:25:21.000 Someone would tackle him.

01:25:23.000 If he was in a protest, the cops would throw him to the ground and arrest him on the spot.

01:25:27.000 And he did it in a courtroom in a jury.

01:25:30.000 And this is what people see.

01:25:30.000 And you know what?

01:25:32.000 Cassandra Fairbanks tweeted something funny.

01:25:33.000 She's like, maybe liberals shouldn't be allowed to have guns. 1.00

01:25:35.000 And I'm like, I get it.

01:25:37.000 But that's the liberal establishment argument. 1.00

01:25:41.000 People shouldn't be allowed to have guns because some people are as stupid as A.D.A. 1.00

01:25:44.000 Binger. 1.00

01:25:45.000 Irresponsible.

01:25:46.000 Man, he did exactly what Alec Baldwin did.

01:25:49.000 He took a gun, he pulled it, it wasn't loaded, and he pointed it, and I don't know if he pulled the trigger, but he put his finger on it, which is essentially pulling it.

01:25:56.000 I mean, it's not pulling it, but it is for safety purposes.

01:26:00.000 We are chilling in our mobile studio.

01:26:01.000 That's right.

01:26:02.000 It's amazing.

01:26:03.000 This is so cool.

01:26:03.000 Actually, I like it better than our regular studio.

01:26:06.000 Me too.

01:26:06.000 This is like, you're going to have to brand this, Tim.

01:26:09.000 You know how you have certain packages where people want to be like music artists?

01:26:12.000 Oh, get this package.

01:26:13.000 You can get a guitar.

01:26:15.000 I've been doing this for a year and a half.

01:26:24.000 All my videos are in my RV.

01:26:25.000 I love RV life.

01:26:26.000 With Bidenflation going on in about a year, people are going to be making a million bucks a year.

01:26:30.000 I'm kidding.

01:26:32.000 I'm kidding.

01:26:32.000 No, no, but I was bringing this up because in our regular studio, we have replica firearms.

01:26:38.000 And secured, we have real firearms.

01:26:41.000 I have a safe.

01:26:42.000 And so first, whenever someone comes over, if we're ever going to do anything, I will always make sure someone handles the replica or effectively inactive, incapable of firing weapon to see how they behave first.

01:26:55.000 You will never be allowed to touch anything I own.

01:26:58.000 Unless you can display proper gun etiquette.

01:27:01.000 And that being said too, for the most part in the studio, no one ever touches anything, any of my weapons.

01:27:04.000 But when it comes to going to the range in West Virginia, where we're, you know, you can, you know, people can use weapons and we're out hunting and stuff like that.

01:27:12.000 We always, I always am very, very careful.

01:27:15.000 I have guns.

01:27:16.000 I have legal weapons, and I have them because we live in the middle of nowhere.

01:27:20.000 But when someone comes over, I'll give them a replica and see what they do with it.

01:27:24.000 And I tell you this, people have no idea what they're doing.

01:27:27.000 And I'll say something like this, hey, this can't fire, but still, never point it at someone.

01:27:31.000 And they go, okay, and they drop it down.

01:27:32.000 I'm like, give it back, you can't touch, never again.

01:27:35.000 Right.

01:27:35.000 This is why I don't let people touch my actual weapons in a home setting.

01:27:39.000 If we go to a range, and we're in a proper controlled environment, okay, Show me that you know how to do it, and we can, you can, here, use my weapon, there's the target, and stuff like that, but in my house, I am not gonna take that risk, because seven out of ten people, they have no idea.

01:27:55.000 But when we get, like, military people, you know, they'll take the replica, they'll hold it up, they'll look at it, inspect it, and they'll be like, this is great, and they'll never point it, they'll keep it down, they'll keep it up, depending on what floor we're on, and I'm like, see, these guys know what they're doing.

01:28:07.000 I'm not going to take the average person who has no idea what they're doing to a range where they're going to be like standing there with a gun and then turn around and be like, hey, the instructor is going to grab him and pin him to the ground.

01:28:17.000 You get slapped for that, at least minimally.

01:28:19.000 But it's a big responsibility.

01:28:20.000 And I think this is why there's been such a coordinated attack against gun owners, because they're some of the most responsible human beings on the face of the earth, especially concealed carry members, permit members.

01:28:31.000 If you look at the crime statistics of people who have those specific licenses, They are astronomically way lower than the general public.

01:28:38.000 You look at the people that do commit the gun crime are the people who get guns illegally in major urban areas, predominantly.

01:28:45.000 But there is this element.

01:28:46.000 You have this firearm.

01:28:47.000 You have a huge, huge responsibility.

01:28:50.000 You better take it seriously.

01:28:51.000 You better practice with it.

01:28:52.000 You better learn how to clean your firearm.

01:28:55.000 This is life and death I think many people understand that and I think this is why there's been such an attack against this culture or even you know if you show photos of of Instagram on Instagram of you holding a firearm or Facebook automatically gets downranked automatically there's all big stigma against you, there shouldn't be.

01:29:13.000 There should be, oh, this guy's a responsible human being.

01:29:16.000 Just like you have a fire extinguisher in your house, you should have a firearm, uh, based on different scenarios and situations that you're in, especially if you're on a farm.

01:29:24.000 So that's just basic common knowledge that should be, you know, more available to everyone, but the culture hasn't spread as far.

01:29:30.000 Go to instructors.

01:29:32.000 It's sad that the majority of those responsible get punished for the minority that aren't.

01:29:37.000 So I'm actually really optimistic about this particularly egregious display from ADA binger, because to me, this is such an obvious, clear indicator that the people who want to ban your right to bear any kind of weapons have no flaming clue what they're talking about.

01:29:54.000 They don't know what they're doing.

01:29:55.000 They don't know what kind of gun they're talking about.

01:29:57.000 They're literally holding it with their finger on the trigger.

01:29:59.000 Even I know that, and I haven't been around guns all that much.

01:30:02.000 It's beyond that.

01:30:03.000 They're literally arguing it's wrong for people to point weapons at other people, and then he points the weapon at other people, like... With the finger on the trigger.

01:30:10.000 Like, yo, hey, guess what?

01:30:11.000 All the two-way people agree it's wrong to point your weapon, you know, negligently at other people.

01:30:16.000 Just like that.

01:30:16.000 Everyone agrees, like, that Alec Baldwin... Well, the funny thing is, with Alec Baldwin, the left is defending him, saying it's not his fault.

01:30:23.000 And I'm like, but he was holding the weapon!

01:30:25.000 He pulled the hammer back and pulled the trigger!

01:30:26.000 Whose fault is it?

01:30:27.000 When the prosecutor said, you are responsible for every bullet that comes out of your gun, I said, he is 100% correct!

01:30:34.000 Alec Baldwin!

01:30:35.000 Let me tell you guys something.

01:30:37.000 The detectives in the Rittenhouse case testified.

01:30:40.000 They were asked.

01:30:43.000 When did you start your investigation?

01:30:45.000 And you filed charges against Kyle Rittenhouse, the prosecutor did, before the investigation concluded.

01:30:52.000 And they say, that's actually fairly normal, it's a known homicide, it's a high-profile case, and we know what happened that night, so we file the charges for the crime, and then we'll begin investigating and pulling the facts together.

01:31:06.000 And I said, oh, it's not uncommon to do that.

01:31:08.000 Oh, oh, because we know that an individual was involved in a homicide.

01:31:12.000 Oh, so is Alec Baldwin going to get arrested anytime soon?

01:31:14.000 I know it's a different state.

01:31:16.000 But if you want to argue, it's not uncommon to file charges against someone and then investigate.

01:31:20.000 Alec Baldwin shot a guy.

01:31:22.000 I mean, shot a lady and a guy.

01:31:24.000 OK, well, then file the charges against him and then work your investigation.

01:31:27.000 No, no, I'm not going to.

01:31:29.000 I don't want to rehash the Alec Baldwin stuff completely, but I'll just point out they're very different cases.

01:31:33.000 But if you believe, if we know for a fact someone pointed a gun and pulled the trigger and killed someone else, we can file charges before the investigation, then Alec Baldwin should have been charged, and should be awaiting trial the same as Rittenhouse did.

01:31:45.000 It's a different case I know, it's different charges I know, I'm just saying.

01:31:48.000 If we know he pulled the gun and pulled the trigger, Then why aren't they filing charges against him?

01:31:53.000 They know he did it.

01:31:54.000 Now they can figure out if there's mitigating factors.

01:31:56.000 For Kyle Rittenhouse, he says, I have an affirmative defense.

01:31:59.000 I was acting in self-defense.

01:32:00.000 They said, oh yeah?

01:32:01.000 Prove it to a jury.

01:32:02.000 OK, Alec Baldwin.

01:32:03.000 He says, it was an accident.

01:32:04.000 I was told it wasn't loaded.

01:32:06.000 OK, Alec, tell it to a jury.

01:32:08.000 The jury will decide.

01:32:09.000 They're doing it to Rittenhouse, but not Alec Baldwin?

01:32:11.000 Spare me, dude.

01:32:12.000 Well, Alec Baldwin hates Trump, so he gets a pass.

01:32:14.000 Yeah, he's a celebrity.

01:32:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:16.000 That's how the media plays their dirty games. 0.98

01:32:17.000 It probably really isn't as simple as that.

01:32:20.000 It's getting really crazy out there, you know?

01:32:23.000 The political establishment realized the power of the media a long, long, long time ago.

01:32:29.000 A long time ago.

01:32:31.000 And they've been gaining power and it's been encroaching and they use this in key areas.

01:32:35.000 and it is remarkable that you have, conservatives have completely overlooked these district attorney

01:32:41.000 political races. I'm not sure who tweeted it, so forgive me for not crediting you on this tweet.

01:32:45.000 They said people, I think it was Michael Malice maybe, he said conservatives need to realize that

01:32:50.000 prosecutors are politicians with the same motivation as any other politician and will

01:32:55.000 act accordingly. Let's go to super chats.

01:32:58.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel.

01:33:01.000 We're gonna have a members-only segment of the show coming up around 11 or so p.m.

01:33:04.000 Eastern Time.

01:33:05.000 But let's read what y'all have to say and make sure you, once again, smash that like button.

01:33:10.000 We have a lot of Super Chats, a lot of comments.

01:33:13.000 Alright, let's see.

01:33:14.000 There's a lot of... First of all, Artemis Fowl has a...

01:33:20.000 A super chat we can't read.

01:33:21.000 Comparable to what Tucker Carlson said, but mostly because it's a family-friendly show, and you know.

01:33:27.000 All right, let's see.

01:33:28.000 Bradley says, is there a CGI image of who he's pointing the gun at?

01:33:32.000 No, there isn't.

01:33:33.000 This is amazing.

01:33:34.000 The computer generated image.

01:33:36.000 I believe it took a few hours to produce.

01:33:38.000 The computer tried to speculate, it was an algorithm trying to generate what the image might look like.

01:33:43.000 Should not be admitted to evidence.

01:33:44.000 But the best part was, the defense was like, who is he pointing the gun at?

01:33:48.000 The prosecution says, the Zeminskys. 0.94

01:33:49.000 The defense says, the Zeminskys aren't in the photo.

01:33:52.000 Yet still, it gets admitted into evidence?

01:33:55.000 That to me is insane.

01:33:56.000 Is he asking if there's CGI of who Binger's pointing the gun at?

01:34:00.000 Because that's a meme.

01:34:02.000 A lot of potential memes come out.

01:34:04.000 I get it, I get it.

01:34:05.000 A lot of memes.

01:34:06.000 I was looking at that.

01:34:08.000 We should get a... Yeah, so Binger's pointing the rifle.

01:34:11.000 Why don't we do a CGI of Binger?

01:34:13.000 A mock-up, yeah.

01:34:14.000 And then we can see, because if Kyle... You know, here's another... This is a really important point.

01:34:18.000 When they're saying the Binger pointed the rifle at the jury, I'm biased. 0.99

01:34:22.000 Even though I don't like Binger, I'm like, I can't imagine him being that dumb to do it. 0.94

01:34:27.000 And the jury's cropped out of the image. 0.96

01:34:29.000 But you know what?

01:34:30.000 If Binger wants to argue that the Zeminskis, who are cropped out of the image, had a gun pointed at them and it's blurry and grainy, then okay, Binger, we'll play it your way.

01:34:38.000 You pointed the gun at the jury.

01:34:39.000 As far as I'm concerned.

01:34:41.000 Right?

01:34:43.000 Alright, let's see.

01:34:44.000 Enigma says, hey Tim, did you catch the prosecution rebuttal?

01:34:47.000 It was a mess.

01:34:48.000 Basically a tantrum for the prosecution who are mad for getting called out.

01:34:52.000 They even tried to say there is no such thing as a left-handed gun.

01:34:55.000 I saw that.

01:34:55.000 You know what's crazy?

01:34:57.000 That the judge had to dismiss the jury, I think, twice.

01:34:59.000 Yeah, two different times.

01:35:00.000 During their final... During the rebuttal.

01:35:02.000 Closing argument.

01:35:04.000 So here's what happens.

01:35:04.000 The prosecution has their closing argument, the defense has their closing argument, and then the prosecution gets a rebuttal.

01:35:10.000 I actually really like that system.

01:35:11.000 I'll tell you why.

01:35:12.000 The prosecution goes in blind.

01:35:13.000 They don't know what the defense is going to say.

01:35:15.000 They make their argument.

01:35:16.000 The defense then gets to base their closing argument to discredit the prosecution.

01:35:21.000 So we give the prosecution like a half an hour or so to address some of the arguments.

01:35:25.000 The state gets the last word.

01:35:27.000 Hmm.

01:35:27.000 I'm not a big fan.

01:35:28.000 But, during their rebuttal, in their last statement, the judge had to dismiss the jury because they were saying factually, as matters of law, inaccurate things.

01:35:37.000 The most important of which is, the state controls the right to remain silent.

01:35:42.000 If, because they're prosecuting Zeminsky, the defense cannot call him as a witness, because Zeminsky will say, I plead the fifth.

01:35:50.000 The state can call him as a witness and grant him immunity, thus getting the testimony if it favors them.

01:35:56.000 Which means, Zeminski's testimony likely did not favor the prosecution, because if it did, they would have granted him immunity to get Kyle convicted.

01:36:05.000 The defense doesn't have the ability to do that.

01:36:07.000 They lied and claimed what they can just plead the fifth.

01:36:10.000 The defense said, I want a surrebuttal to tell the jury the state controls Zeminsky's right to remain silent.

01:36:17.000 So we didn't have the opportunity.

01:36:18.000 And the judge said, no, tell me the judge's bias for the defense.

01:36:21.000 The judge said, no, I don't think I'll do that.

01:36:22.000 And I'm like, that's BS.

01:36:25.000 The state can grant immunity and get the testimony if it proved Rittenhouse guilty, and they didn't because it doesn't!

01:36:31.000 I guess, well, you gotta remember that Kyle's innocent until he's proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and that's the weight on the prosecution.

01:36:38.000 They have a big job if they want to try and prove that with blurry footage and weird testimony.

01:36:43.000 Yeah.

01:36:46.000 Daniel Maxwell says one common trait of all authoritarian groups is they all believe the common people are unable to think for themselves.

01:36:54.000 And so this is where it's interesting.

01:36:55.000 My personal opinion is that in many instances, the defense didn't object to what the prosecution was saying.

01:37:01.000 Because I got to tell you, I was getting annoyed by the prosecution.

01:37:05.000 A lot.

01:37:05.000 I think a lot of people were.

01:37:07.000 He was really condescending in that video you played earlier.

01:37:10.000 It's not just, it's, yes, and it's not just that.

01:37:14.000 It's, it's like, there's condescending in a negative way, and there's condescending in a patronizing way.

01:37:19.000 Yeah. 0.91

01:37:20.000 Kyle, but didn't you want to kill those people? 1.00

01:37:24.000 And I'm like, oh, shut up! 1.00

01:37:26.000 Just be straight. 0.99

01:37:27.000 Tell me what happened. 1.00

01:37:28.000 Kyle, your gun kills people.

01:37:32.000 It's like, you remember when AOC was testifying before Homan, who was the head of ICE?

01:37:37.000 Yeah.

01:37:38.000 And she goes, with all due respect, legal asylees have broken no law. 1.00

01:37:44.000 And I'm like, shut up, man! 0.92

01:37:46.000 You know, but look, that works on people. 0.96

01:37:49.000 And then Holman goes, they did violate Section 3C9A, illegal.

01:37:53.000 And I was like, oh, well, I don't know the actual law.

01:37:54.000 I'm just giving you numbers.

01:37:56.000 But that is grating to me.

01:37:58.000 As an adult, I imagine the jury's like, we don't want to be here.

01:38:02.000 You know, we're told we have to be here.

01:38:04.000 We're hearing a jury.

01:38:04.000 We'll do our duty.

01:38:05.000 Don't waste our time.

01:38:07.000 Seriously.

01:38:08.000 Hey, some people might be swayed by it.

01:38:10.000 I think I think you could tell the judge was getting irritated with him too, and the jury's watching that as well.

01:38:18.000 You know, and I think when you're in an environment like that, I think he did a pretty good job irritating everybody in the room.

01:38:24.000 And if that was his intention, maybe he thinks that's a good strategy to win the jury over.

01:38:30.000 I don't know.

01:38:31.000 I think we're just going to find out.

01:38:32.000 But Drew, can I ask you, I don't know if we're going off on a tangent a little bit, looking at the jury, where do you think they're standing?

01:38:38.000 What do you think their decision will be?

01:38:40.000 I don't want to comment on that.

01:38:42.000 I just will say that being in the room it was very tense and I know that having a direct conversation with him I could pretty much sense he was trying to stray away from my testimony so that they obviously couldn't hear it.

01:38:56.000 I'm not accusing him of that it just seemed that way because every time he would Tell me something it was to divert from the actual testimony I was there to give and first he assassinated my credibility then my character and it led to him and I just kind of going back and forth where You know, I had to define the word apparently for him.

01:39:16.000 He just that was crazy But that's what he was trying to do to me.

01:39:19.000 He was digging, digging, digging.

01:39:21.000 He was like, you tweeted this on Twitter.

01:39:24.000 I was like, can you be more specific?

01:39:26.000 Because I tweet a lot.

01:39:27.000 I'm a public figure.

01:39:28.000 He's like, this tweet here, you said this.

01:39:30.000 You inserted your opinion.

01:39:32.000 Just like Tim is impersonating him.

01:39:34.000 You inserted your opinion here.

01:39:35.000 I was like, no, I said apparently.

01:39:38.000 He's like, what difference does that make?

01:39:40.000 It's not my 100% opinion, or 100% this happened.

01:39:44.000 This is kind of as far as I can see.

01:39:46.000 So you jumped to an apparent conclusion.

01:39:50.000 It's kind of what it apparently means?

01:39:52.000 It's like, where is this guy?

01:39:54.000 It seems so.

01:39:55.000 Yeah, as far as you can see.

01:39:57.000 As far as you can see, it seems that's the case.

01:39:59.000 It's not my opinion.

01:40:01.000 We have someone updated us on what Rakeda was saying.

01:40:04.000 Desmond Sullivan says, when Rakeda said Hernandez was a bad witness, that was a criticism of the media for creating pretrial bias.

01:40:11.000 Some jurors want to disregard evidence.

01:40:15.000 So I don't think it was about you.

01:40:16.000 I think you said a lot of really, really important things.

01:40:19.000 And the funny thing is about how they accuse you of bias.

01:40:21.000 It's very simple.

01:40:22.000 I don't care.

01:40:23.000 Well, let's see.

01:40:23.000 Let's ask the public.

01:40:24.000 If you guys thought, live in the chat, I was a great witness, drop a 1 in the comment section right now.

01:40:29.000 I think everybody's a big fan, to be honest. 0.97

01:40:30.000 And then drop 2 if, uh... You thought he was just trash. 0.95

01:40:37.000 I said it very simply. 0.91

01:40:39.000 Look, if I was on the jury, I would get really offended by the point of bias.

01:40:42.000 Because I'd be like, is he lying or not?

01:40:45.000 Okay?

01:40:45.000 Are you gonna get him for perjury or not?

01:40:47.000 If he's telling the truth and he's telling me what he saw, I don't care what you think his politics are.

01:40:50.000 Yeah, the evidence speaks for itself in a lot of cases, the footage.

01:40:53.000 The same is true for Gage Grosskreutz.

01:40:56.000 It's all 1s, everyone's spamming 1s.

01:40:57.000 Not all 1s, not like a... There's a couple 2s.

01:40:58.000 There's some 2s we gotta have in there. 0.82

01:41:01.000 Like a 12 to 1 ratio?

01:41:02.000 Oh, here we got like a 10 to 1, 12 to 1.

01:41:03.000 15 to 1 ratio?

01:41:04.000 I'm not perfect, there's gotta be some 2s. 1.00

01:41:05.000 No, no one's perfect.

01:41:06.000 Someone threw a 3 in there.

01:41:07.000 Thanks, audience.

01:41:08.000 No idea what that means!

01:41:09.000 Okay.

01:41:12.000 When Gage Grosskreutz testified, I'm like, I want to hear what he has to say.

01:41:16.000 I'm not going to call him a liar.

01:41:17.000 And then he lied.

01:41:18.000 Definitively and easily lied.

01:41:19.000 And they're like, you lied to the police.

01:41:20.000 And he's like, oh, no, no, I didn't.

01:41:22.000 They're like, you said this?

01:41:23.000 Yeah.

01:41:24.000 He lied.

01:41:24.000 I got to tell you, man, when, when the prosecutor said, Mr. Grosskreutz, at this point in your confrontation with Mr. Reynolds, you had drawn your gun and there's a video of it playing and Gage goes, no.

01:41:37.000 And then he's like, here's the video we're playing right now, and you have a gun in your hand.

01:41:41.000 And he goes, yes.

01:41:43.000 I couldn't believe when I said, are you kidding me?

01:41:46.000 Now that was a lie.

01:41:47.000 He lied outright.

01:41:49.000 Now you gave video.

01:41:50.000 If they want to get you for perjury because he thinks you're biased and lying, you need only go to the video and be like, hey, the video shows something different.

01:41:56.000 I could have sat there and push play and just narrated it.

01:41:58.000 Mm-hmm.

01:41:59.000 Yep.

01:42:00.000 And that's the truth.

01:42:01.000 That's the reality.

01:42:02.000 Yeah, you're supposed to say, I don't remember.

01:42:04.000 Like, he could have said, I don't remember.

01:42:06.000 Not directly know, I would imagine.

01:42:08.000 If he truly didn't remember.

01:42:10.000 We got a good one here.

01:42:10.000 This is important.

01:42:11.000 Stunning and Brave says the McCloskeys went down for doing the same thing ADA Binger did. 0.83

01:42:17.000 Let me remind you that the McCloskey wife said that the gun she had was checked and the firing pin was reversed and it was incapable of firing.

01:42:27.000 He didn't even check it himself! 0.98

01:42:29.000 Ridiculous. 0.96

01:42:29.000 ADA binger says, but I asked if it was unloaded before I pointed the weapon and put my finger 0.96

01:42:34.000 on the trigger.

01:42:35.000 It doesn't matter.

01:42:36.000 Yo, man, never assume.

01:42:39.000 If I was, if I was in a courtroom in any capacity, I don't care if I was there as a reporter

01:42:44.000 and he raised that weapon and did that, I would have yelled.

01:42:48.000 I would have.

01:42:49.000 I'm not, I'm not joking.

01:42:51.000 I don't care if I'm a juror or I would have, if I was, uh, if I was like they're spectating

01:42:55.000 and he did that, I would have gotten up and be like, you're out of it.

01:42:58.000 Stop him.

01:42:59.000 Nobody did.

01:43:00.000 Nobody did.

01:43:01.000 That was shocking to me.

01:43:02.000 And I guess probably the defense were like, that was really good for us.

01:43:06.000 Like that was an insane thing to do.

01:43:08.000 Yo, man.

01:43:09.000 You guys, you've seen the videos.

01:43:11.000 There's a guy at a gun range with his buddy, and he's, like, aiming the weapon, and then he turns to his friend, and the instructor runs up, grabs him, and puts him in, like, an arm lock, and drops him, and then drags him out, and they're like, whoa.

01:43:21.000 There's the video of Will Smith.

01:43:23.000 The guy's picking up the gun, and Will Smith looks at him and smacks the gun down.

01:43:27.000 You don't see, like, if Will Smith is gonna smack a gun from like smack their hand down when they draw a gun nobody in the court could have seen binger do this and been like grab him and you know what i i'd imagine no bailiff no judge would would react negatively towards you i actually think they'd be like actually you're right he should have done that

01:43:49.000 I don't care if someone says it's clear.

01:43:51.000 Alec Baldwin was told his gun was clear, too.

01:43:52.000 Yeah.

01:43:53.000 You never assume.

01:43:54.000 Never assume, kids.

01:43:55.000 You never assume.

01:43:56.000 You assume that it's not safe, so you're constantly checking to make sure that it's safe.

01:44:00.000 Always.

01:44:01.000 With guns.

01:44:02.000 Let's read this one.

01:44:02.000 We got, uh...

01:44:04.000 Strider and Koda says, Hernandez, when Binger brought up your tweets, why didn't you say the one about Rosenbaum being a child abuser?

01:44:11.000 We'll put it that way.

01:44:12.000 Would have been epic.

01:44:13.000 The reason why was because I was aware of that rule, that it can't be brought in, and I wasn't sure if I quoted my own tweet that that would somehow... Mistrial.

01:44:26.000 I don't know, you know, so I just played it safe.

01:44:28.000 I'm not trying to hide anything.

01:44:30.000 That's why I didn't quote the tweet, because I didn't want to Did they instruct you on what you could or couldn't say?

01:44:38.000 done by just quoting them. Did they instruct you on what you could or couldn't say? Nobody

01:44:42.000 instructed me. That's interesting because there was accusations that the prosecution

01:44:47.000 wanted to trigger a mistrial so they could get a do-over.

01:44:49.000 And by bringing us up your tweets, they open the door to anything you've ever

01:44:54.000 tweeted about.

01:44:55.000 So that's why they said, like you could have said, I also tweeted a lot of things about

01:44:59.000 the character of these individuals and who they were, and they weren't opinions, such

01:45:02.000 as, and if you did bring that up, the judge might have been like, mistrial.

01:45:07.000 That's why I didn't do it.

01:45:08.000 I wasn't sure.

01:45:09.000 Well, I, you know, it's hard to say what you were supposed to do, but I'll put it this

01:45:12.000 I think the only thing that matters is that you just answered the questions as they were asked.

01:45:16.000 You didn't... Outside of, like, when he said the things in Kenosha, and you said violent riots, you didn't say, and also, by the way, so-and-so did X. I actually think that was the right thing to do.

01:45:26.000 You said that they didn't tell you what was off and on limits, but that you knew... Nobody coached me.

01:45:31.000 You knew ahead of time that it was... you weren't supposed to talk about Rosenbaum's test?

01:45:36.000 That's been reported multiple times.

01:45:37.000 So you knew through the media before you went in?

01:45:39.000 Yeah, I've heard that.

01:45:42.000 I wonder if that's like witness testimony tampering.

01:45:45.000 You can't avoid it with modern media.

01:45:47.000 You know, look, when DeBruin said Rosenbaum yelled, I don't care if I go back to jail, they objected and the judge was like, The witness said he heard it.

01:45:55.000 It's part of it.

01:45:56.000 It's in.

01:45:57.000 And so there's something, I'm not a lawyer again, but we've all heard opening the door.

01:46:01.000 The prosecution made arguments about opening the door to evidence.

01:46:05.000 I think he may have potentially opened the door to anything you've ever tweeted about.

01:46:09.000 But the defense probably couldn't ask you about it.

01:46:11.000 But I think maybe if you said it, then he'd be like, your honor, that's not supposed to come up, and he'd be like, you asked him about his social media posts.

01:46:19.000 You know?

01:46:20.000 I don't know what the outcome would have been.

01:46:21.000 That's why I just tried to play it safe, yeah.

01:46:23.000 No, I think it's not even about that.

01:46:25.000 I think the fact that you simply just answered the questions that you were asked.

01:46:29.000 Yeah.

01:46:29.000 You know, you weren't injecting your bias.

01:46:32.000 If you were biased the way they claimed, you probably would have been like, hey, did you guys know that this dude was, you know, committing atrocities against children?

01:46:38.000 And that's the thing too, is towards the end of my testimony, you could clearly see that Binger was, and I know lawyers do this, they ask the same question 30 times, because they want to get an answer out of you that they didn't get the first 29 times, and hopefully maybe on the 30th time, you'll give them the answer that they wanted because you're getting annoyed, right?

01:46:57.000 I saw him pull that on me, because at the end he was like, so you feared for your life because someone was pointing a gun at you with a laser.

01:47:04.000 And I was like, I'm always fearing for my life in the midst of riots.

01:47:07.000 You were fearing for your life, because I was like, sir, I didn't want to be misidentified as a rioter.

01:47:14.000 I said it like two times.

01:47:15.000 And he's like, are you just incapable of answering the question?

01:47:17.000 And then the judge was just like, where's this going?

01:47:20.000 Yeah, he's like, he answered the question.

01:47:21.000 The jury was watching all that, I'll just say that.

01:47:23.000 And they watched a lot of that.

01:47:24.000 They watched all that.

01:47:26.000 All right.

01:47:26.000 ReadyToRumble says, MSNBC didn't show the defense's closing arguments, but they showed both of the prosecutions.

01:47:33.000 No wonder why the left is clueless, because they're lacking real information.

01:47:36.000 You know what's sad?

01:47:37.000 NBC News reported, gun charge dismissed.

01:47:41.000 And all the responses were like, the judge is biased, the judge is a white supremacist.

01:47:44.000 They're like, the law clearly states you can't have a gun.

01:47:46.000 How is he getting away with this?

01:47:48.000 And it's like, just watch the trial.

01:47:50.000 Just read the law.

01:47:51.000 Take two seconds to do a Google search.

01:47:54.000 They don't want to.

01:47:55.000 Well, they were going after the judge because of that comment he made about the Asian food, right? 0.98

01:48:00.000 Oh, it's ridiculous. 0.94

01:48:01.000 Dude, he's talking about... That's not... Listen, I'll just say this. 0.96

01:48:04.000 In the courtroom, it's so tense in there.

01:48:08.000 He's saying things like that because he's just trying to disperse the tension.

01:48:14.000 Everyone's just on edge.

01:48:16.000 I mean, you got the... Because it's really weird and awkward because everyone's arguing, right?

01:48:19.000 On TV, the defense, the prosecution.

01:48:21.000 And then, you know, the feed cuts.

01:48:24.000 Let's go to lunch.

01:48:25.000 They're all together.

01:48:26.000 They're having to talk to interact with each other.

01:48:28.000 We're all going to go eat.

01:48:29.000 So the judge is trying to just like really just make it less tense in the room.

01:48:34.000 And it's just to me, this is why I hate the the corporate media when they do stuff, because they take something like that and they try and make it more divisive when it's someone actually just trying to bring peace to a situation.

01:48:45.000 Right.

01:48:46.000 Here's Billy Bob.

01:48:47.000 Super chat.

01:48:48.000 He says your drawing rings true.

01:48:51.000 Spooky.

01:48:52.000 So, um, on our last episode, I claimed that I had a picture of Kyle Rittenhouse pointing his weapon at protesters.

01:49:02.000 And the picture was a crude stick figure drawing I had made in about 10 seconds to make a point that... You were right.

01:49:09.000 But hold on, hold on.

01:49:10.000 I think you're a time traveler.

01:49:11.000 On the other side of the paper, I had another crude drawing where I said, ladies and gentlemen, this is a picture of ADA Binger pointing his rifle at... I didn't say the jury though.

01:49:22.000 It was Kyle.

01:49:22.000 I said Kyle.

01:49:23.000 I think Richie McGinnis was behind him in the picture.

01:49:25.000 No, no, no.

01:49:26.000 In this one, it was just Kyle.

01:49:27.000 It was a squiggly, angry face, and then a stick figure pointing a weapon.

01:49:30.000 And I said, I have a picture of A.D.A.

01:49:32.000 Binger pointing a gun at Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:49:35.000 And the joke was, when he claimed his CGI image was a picture of something, and it's just a rendering from a computer from a week ago or whatever, I'm like, okay, well, I've got a picture too.

01:49:46.000 And then Ian's like, the picture's a drawing.

01:49:47.000 And I'm like, It's a type of picture.

01:49:49.000 Let's work this out.

01:49:50.000 You know what that really reminded me of?

01:49:53.000 And I was looking at this after my testimony, so it's completely irrelevant, but you know those pictures where you show it to like five different people and they all see five different things, but it's like the same picture?

01:50:05.000 Rorschach test.

01:50:06.000 Dude, that's exactly what that, like at least for me personally, I stared at it for like 15 minutes.

01:50:11.000 I'm like, okay, maybe I could see what they're saying.

01:50:14.000 I'm like, let me come back to this.

01:50:15.000 I come back to him, I'm like, I see something completely different.

01:50:18.000 It's just not, to me personally, I don't think that is sufficient.

01:50:21.000 We needed to do a skit on this.

01:50:22.000 It would be a great skit where there's like a doctor and he's like, tell me what do you see?

01:50:27.000 And it's like, it's an inkblot, and it's like, I see a butterfly.

01:50:30.000 And he goes to the next one, and it's like, a giraffe.

01:50:31.000 And he goes to the next one, and it's the blown up image of Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:50:34.000 I see Kyle Rittenhouse pointing a rifle, and it's like a binger.

01:50:38.000 He's like, pointing a rifle at a bunch of protesters after switching his right-handed rifle to his left hand, putting the chamber near his face that would eject the casing into his face.

01:50:45.000 It's like, interesting, and he's writing stuff down.

01:50:48.000 That's what you see, huh?

01:50:49.000 That's what you see.

01:50:49.000 That would have been really funny.

01:50:51.000 All right, we got one from Tommy.

01:50:53.000 What is he?

01:50:54.000 Groshing.

01:50:55.000 He says, the duty to retreat stuff became their swan song after ADA started pitching the provocation angle.

01:51:02.000 If someone provokes a fight, they have a duty to retreat before having the privilege of self-defense.

01:51:07.000 Okay, so that makes sense.

01:51:09.000 So even if, this is interesting, I do remember when the judge was instructing on this and I felt like, this is it.

01:51:14.000 Rittenhouse wins.

01:51:15.000 Because the argument is, if you provoke someone, and then you try to retreat, then you can defend yourself.

01:51:22.000 If you provoke a fight, you can't defend yourself because you started it.

01:51:25.000 If you provoke a fight and run away, you can defend yourself.

01:51:28.000 So that's why they were like, you had a duty to retreat!

01:51:31.000 And then I'm kind of like, isn't that a video of Kyle Rittenhouse running away?

01:51:35.000 So even if he did provoke it, he ran away after the fact?

01:51:38.000 The funny thing is, the argument from the prosecution was that Rittenhouse was trying to lead Rosenbaum to an empty parking lot.

01:51:44.000 Like, for what?

01:51:45.000 This is the craziest, circuitous plan I've ever heard from someone.

01:51:48.000 It's conspiracy theory.

01:51:49.000 I just think it's crazy how the media tries to spin it as, like, an active shooting situation.

01:51:54.000 Because, for me, after Kyle, you know, came back around the car, he shot Rosenbaum, you know, comes around the car, he checks him, he pulls out his phone, and he's making a phone call.

01:52:04.000 That's when you see in my footage, he jogs right past me.

01:52:08.000 And an active shooter isn't just kind of like walking past people that are, you know, running towards one of the people that they just shot.

01:52:19.000 And that happened multiple times.

01:52:20.000 Like, so even for me, I walk right past him and he just went right past me because he was already going to go turn himself into the police.

01:52:27.000 Yeah.

01:52:27.000 And then they started trying to identify where he is.

01:52:30.000 Where's he at?

01:52:31.000 Where's he at?

01:52:31.000 I'm telling you, man, it went from like a hundred to a thousand.

01:52:34.000 I got a super chat here that's triggering.

01:52:35.000 I'm very triggered.

01:52:36.000 I'm very angry.

01:52:38.000 James Fisher says, Tim, I'm always a day behind because I listen to you on Spotify.

01:52:41.000 Please stop referring to an AR as an assault rifle.

01:52:44.000 There is no such thing.

01:52:46.000 That's just causing fear around these weapons.

01:52:48.000 AR stands for armor light rifle.

01:52:50.000 Cheers, brother.

01:52:50.000 Great show.

01:52:51.000 I am triggered by this because I have never referred to an AR-15 as an assault rifle.

01:52:56.000 An M16, correct me if I'm wrong, Luke, is an assault rifle.

01:53:00.000 A select fire rifle.

01:53:01.000 Now, there are a lot of people who say, Assault Rifle doesn't exist, Select Fire Rifles are called Select Fire Rifles.

01:53:06.000 If you pull up the colloquial breakdown, most people will define Assault Rifle as, I think it actually came from Nazi Germany, where the term comes from.

01:53:17.000 It refers to Select Fire, so it's full-auto bursts and semi-automatic.

01:53:22.000 One pull, one, you know.

01:53:23.000 I've never said AR stands for Assault Rifle.

01:53:26.000 I know what an Armalite Rifle is.

01:53:27.000 There are a bunch of different kinds.

01:53:29.000 You think that ArmaLite should change the name of their company?

01:53:33.000 No.

01:53:35.000 Is ArmaLite even a company?

01:53:36.000 Is ArmaLite still a company?

01:53:37.000 I don't think so.

01:53:38.000 It was back in the day, ArmaLite made a bunch of different kinds of weapons.

01:53:41.000 Isn't there like an AR-12 and things like that?

01:53:43.000 I'm not the biggest gun person, but I certainly never called an ArmaLite rifle an assault rifle.

01:53:48.000 I've made references to legitimate assault rifles by saying, not a single person in Kenosha was armed with an assault rifle.

01:53:54.000 Yeah, it was founded in the 50s, ArmaLite Inc., and then ended in the 80s.

01:54:00.000 I am not the biggest gun expert in the world, but I've at least done the Google search.

01:54:04.000 We live in this weird, what do you call it, simulacrum where I think if they did change the name of the weapons to like a ZR, like a 120 or something, they'd stop thinking they were assault rifles.

01:54:13.000 They'd stop arguing it.

01:54:15.000 Like, here's the funny thing.

01:54:17.000 When they're like, no one should have an AR-15, and it's just like, you know how many guns there are that aren't AR-15 or AR-15 style, that are semi-automatic rifles with magazines and function identical?

01:54:29.000 It's the weirdest thing.

01:54:31.000 They know so little about it.

01:54:33.000 There's tons of weapons where you put an interchangeable magazine with a drum or, you know, whatever, and it's semi-automatic.

01:54:39.000 During the jury selection, didn't one woman, they asked her, like, do you have an issue with an AR-15 or a gun like this?

01:54:45.000 And she was like, I don't think anyone should own a machine gun. 0.93

01:54:48.000 Yep.

01:54:48.000 Oh.

01:54:49.000 That's right.

01:54:51.000 And here's the best part, there was a guy who was like, I don't think I would be a fair juror because I believe in the right to bear arms.

01:54:57.000 And it's like, that doesn't make you an unfair juror.

01:55:00.000 The Constitution says you get to do this, and you judge people as a peer accordingly.

01:55:05.000 I swear, conservatives, man.

01:55:07.000 I wonder if he was just trying to get out of jury duty.

01:55:09.000 That's true, that's true.

01:55:12.000 Alright, let's see.

01:55:13.000 SFC Retired says the AR platform is ambidextrous.

01:55:17.000 It has a brass deflector for left-handed shooters.

01:55:19.000 I understand that.

01:55:20.000 That's an important point too.

01:55:21.000 And other people have mentioned that you can put a deflector as well if you don't have one.

01:55:27.000 But my point is, I just did a Google search.

01:55:30.000 First of all, I know I have, um... I can't remember the name.

01:55:33.000 I have a 9mm Makarov handgun from, like, the 60s.

01:55:36.000 A Cold War weapon.

01:55:36.000 It's Polish.

01:55:38.000 And it is only right-handed.

01:55:40.000 The way the grip is shaped, you put it in your left hand, and it, like, pushes into your palm, and it's really difficult to hold.

01:55:47.000 And I gotta be honest, Soviet weapons, they don't feel good to fire.

01:55:50.000 It hurts.

01:55:51.000 It bites, you know?

01:55:52.000 It's just not fun.

01:55:52.000 And whenever we go to the range, everyone's like, I'm not going to use that one.

01:55:55.000 And I'm like, but it's, it's Makarov.

01:55:57.000 It's, you know, what was it?

01:55:57.000 Nine by 18, I think.

01:55:59.000 So it's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's unique Soviet. 0.90

01:56:02.000 Nobody wants to do it.

01:56:02.000 Anyway, I digress.

01:56:03.000 It's a right-handed weapon.

01:56:04.000 And so I did a simple Google search to look and there's, they have designed left-handed weapons where it ejects the other side.

01:56:10.000 And I even watched a video of a guy who had right eye damage.

01:56:14.000 So he, but he was right-handed.

01:56:15.000 So he has a special gun that uses his left eye and it loops around in the other direction.

01:56:20.000 It's interesting.

01:56:21.000 I think it's a P-64.

01:56:23.000 Yeah, P-64?

01:56:23.000 Yep.

01:56:23.000 Is that what it's called?

01:56:24.000 You look it up?

01:56:25.000 Yeah.

01:56:26.000 I have two of them actually.

01:56:27.000 Yeah.

01:56:28.000 They're not fun to fire.

01:56:29.000 Both right-handed?

01:56:29.000 They're not fun.

01:56:30.000 Or are they all right-handed?

01:56:31.000 They're all right-handed, I'm pretty sure.

01:56:33.000 They were, like, designed that way.

01:56:34.000 And the funny thing is, I'm like, this is such a Soviet weapon. 0.85

01:56:37.000 It works.

01:56:38.000 It hurts.

01:56:39.000 But I'm sure the Soviets didn't care. 0.97

01:56:41.000 Do I care about your personal comfort?

01:56:42.000 No.

01:56:43.000 Here's a gun. 0.81

01:56:44.000 Like, I guess, you know, I don't know if this is true, but my understanding is that they mass-produced in World War II really, really awful garbage tanks.

01:56:52.000 But a lot of them.

01:56:53.000 I've heard that too.

01:56:54.000 And they were like, they would be easily taken out, but there was just too many.

01:56:58.000 And so they just overran.

01:56:59.000 Strength in numbers.

01:57:00.000 That's right.

01:57:00.000 Zap Brannigan approach.

01:57:01.000 Yeah, I mean, that sounds like the Soviet strategy.

01:57:04.000 All right, let's see.

01:57:05.000 BC says, did anybody see the footage showing that Rittenhouse did not point the weapon?

01:57:09.000 On Gab, quote, new FBI infrared video blows Kyle Rittenhouse prosecutor's case into a million pieces.

01:57:14.000 I watched a lot of that footage.

01:57:16.000 And people did like graphic overlays and they broke down, they did like outlines.

01:57:21.000 And I gotta admit, those videos are very accurate.

01:57:23.000 I wonder if the defense is using social media decentralization as a tool in this, because they should've.

01:57:27.000 That'd be smart, yeah.

01:57:29.000 So, in this video, at least one of them I watched, you can clearly see this blurry figure, but you can see the way he's moving when he runs, and you can tell he's facing forward.

01:57:38.000 They then say, if he is facing forward, they draw an outline around how he's holding his weapon, and at no point did he ever point it at anybody.

01:57:45.000 What they're trying to argue is that his arm being up when he was pointing the gun down, which is, you know, muzzle control, they were trying to argue that the gun going up, because it was a thin pixel line, was actually him left-handed like this.

01:57:59.000 Pointing the weapon at other people instead of pointing it down.

01:58:03.000 And didn't Kyle testify?

01:58:04.000 Oh, I'm pointing my gun down.

01:58:05.000 Yep.

01:58:07.000 And I love it when the prosecution was like, here you are pointing your weapon at Gage Grosskreutz, whose hands are up.

01:58:15.000 And then Kyle goes, This is actually just a freeze frame.

01:58:19.000 If you play the video, I'm actually lowering my weapon.

01:58:22.000 They pause the video while he's lowering his weapon and say, look, you're pointing it at him.

01:58:26.000 And it's like, play the video and he's going like, he's pointing it down!

01:58:28.000 I gotta say too, when they played the video in slow motion, after Rittenhouse, you know, is rolling on the ground in turns towards Gage Grosskreutz, I was surprised at the discipline.

01:58:42.000 I'll say it always, like, I wish it didn't happen.

01:58:45.000 I don't think Kyle should have been there for a variety of reasons.

01:58:47.000 I know there's a lot of people who think he should have been there.

01:58:49.000 I just... I don't think any of them should have been there, is the point.

01:58:52.000 Not just Kyle.

01:58:53.000 But, Kyle rolls on the ground, and as he's rolling, immediately aims perfectly towards the guy with the Glock pointed at him.

01:59:01.000 And then lowers his weapon almost immediately.

01:59:03.000 He disabled the arm that was holding the weapon.

01:59:05.000 It's crazy, right?

01:59:06.000 He's extremely accurate.

01:59:08.000 Like, he did one shot, one shot, one shot.

01:59:10.000 Of course, with Rosenbaum, he fired four shots all into the body.

01:59:14.000 In 0.7 seconds.

01:59:15.000 Amazing.

01:59:16.000 Really impressive.

01:59:17.000 That's like a fight for your life.

01:59:18.000 Well, it's... I struggle to be positive in this regards.

01:59:22.000 Like, impressive in the sense that he restrained himself to a resounding degree.

01:59:28.000 And it must be stated.

01:59:29.000 And the defense mentioned this, but should have drilled it home.

01:59:31.000 After he fires on Grosskreutz and Grosskreutz runs away, multiple gunshots are fired and Rittenhouse calmly lowers his weapon, turns around and starts walking.

01:59:42.000 He doesn't return fire.

01:59:43.000 There's a guy with a weapon standing right next to him.

01:59:46.000 He doesn't run at him.

01:59:46.000 He doesn't attack him.

01:59:47.000 He immediately goes back to getting to the police with his hands up.

01:59:52.000 I don't know if he was actually there legally has been acknowledged he was concussed but it sounds like yeah took some head trauma on the run and then he passed out according to his testimony passed out on the way and that's when they hit him with the skateboard for the second time is it it's confirmed that it was the guy's right hand right arm right gross course had the pistol on his right arm yeah what what what we talked about on Friday but I think if you miss it you got to hear it the prosecution was like But Mr. Rittenhouse, Gage Grosskreutz had a gun.

02:00:19.000 He could have shot you from 40 or 50 feet away.

02:00:22.000 So, he wasn't a threat to you.

02:00:25.000 And Kyle was like, he had a gun pointed at my head.

02:00:28.000 If it were me, I'd say...

02:00:31.000 For those that don't understand handguns, like yourself, Mr. Binger, someone like Gage Grosskreutz, who probably doesn't have extensive firearms training, I can't make that assumption, but in the heat of the moment while running, the likelihood that somebody is going to actually make contact with a handgun is very, very low.

02:00:50.000 So the fact is that because he was running at me with the weapon, I understand handguns have been to the range and know how they work.

02:00:56.000 My assumption was he knew he couldn't make the shot unless he got point-blank.

02:01:00.000 So as soon as he ran up to me, that was actually the bigger threat.

02:01:04.000 In fact, I would say this.

02:01:06.000 When he was at 40 or 50 feet, you're right, he could've shot me.

02:01:09.000 And the reason I didn't fire on him is because I knew he would've missed.

02:01:12.000 But once he closed that distance and pointed the gun at my head from about 3 feet away, that's when he wasn't gonna miss and I had no choice but to fire to defend myself and stop that threat.

02:01:21.000 The defense didn't bring that up.

02:01:22.000 Hindsight is 20-20, and it's really easy for me to be some, like, armchair spectator with popcorn going, like, I KNOW BETTER THAN THE LAWYERS!

02:01:31.000 But I think that would've been a very powerful statement, like, you're right, he could've shot me from 40 feet away.

02:01:36.000 But I didn't shoot him because I thought he would miss and he wasn't a threat until he closed that distance and I had no choice.

02:01:43.000 Let's do a couple more here. 0.85

02:01:44.000 We'll do a couple more.

02:01:45.000 We got a lot of people.

02:01:46.000 people. Here we go. Home B says the Kenosha Police Department must suck if it takes a

02:01:49.000 17 year old kid to go into a situation with an AR and a fanny pack and a med kit to stop 0.98

02:01:54.000 fires and pretend to be an EMT. Why warn the police out there?

02:02:00.000 Like, I know they were further away, and this is a tactic they use, but the police... Look, they're calling out the National Guard right now.

02:02:06.000 Why didn't they do that on the night in question?

02:02:08.000 It was day three of the riots?

02:02:10.000 Yeah, I could understand why night one, they were totally unprepared, outnumbered, weren't ready for this.

02:02:17.000 Night two, it was the same thing.

02:02:17.000 I get it.

02:02:20.000 The riot was continuing.

02:02:22.000 I don't have an explanation as to why.

02:02:24.000 I just know a lot of people that were local that during that time were asking the same questions.

02:02:30.000 Where's law enforcement in this?

02:02:31.000 They seem to be outnumbered.

02:02:33.000 They seem to be really not taking care of this the way that they should.

02:02:35.000 Now, let us remind ourselves this was 2020 in the midst of the race riots where police officers and police departments were probably afraid to do anything, especially even Portland, That's a whole other story where Portland police had literally had their hands tied behind their backs they couldn't they have riot training and they weren't even allowed to do it because they uh the mayor wasn't allowing them because they didn't want to cause any more race riots even though they were just continuing so I don't I I'm not saying that's what happened in Kenosha but I this was kind of like the mentality in 2020 with police departments so

02:03:08.000 It wasn't the mentality. There was police departments told to stand down.

02:03:08.000 I have no idea.

02:03:12.000 And they stood down based on those orders.

02:03:14.000 And they said, well, let the city burn.

02:03:16.000 We're given specific orders. We're not going to intervene.

02:03:19.000 And we're just going to watch a lot of this happen. And they did.

02:03:22.000 So that aspect of it is the crazy, chilling aspect that should be remembered.

02:03:26.000 Let's do one more.

02:03:27.000 It's a really important one.

02:03:29.000 Richard Thibaud says, Binger aimed the gun at the jury to bait the defense.

02:03:34.000 He was trying to get a reaction and a response out of Richards.

02:03:37.000 It's good that Richards didn't fall for it.

02:03:39.000 It's a good point.

02:03:40.000 Interesting.

02:03:40.000 If he aimed the gun at the jury and the defense said, whoa, whoa, you can't do that.

02:03:45.000 Binger would have been like, oh, I'm sorry.

02:03:47.000 I'm just doing what your defendant did.

02:03:50.000 You take objection to what I was doing, but you're claiming that what he did wasn't wrong?

02:03:54.000 It was smart not to react.

02:03:55.000 Literally yes, but okay.

02:03:57.000 I still think it's crazy that the Taliban has better trigger discipline than a state prosecutor. 0.84

02:04:02.000 It's just ridiculous that we're at this level, and who knows whether this was 3D chess.

02:04:07.000 I don't agree.

02:04:07.000 I think this was a guy who was chicken-winging the thing, and didn't know what he was doing, and had, you know, a scary Assault Rifle, quote Assault Rifle, again I'm being facetious here, in his hands and wanted to play up on the drama and emotions of it.

02:04:22.000 We went to a range, this was a while ago, this was probably beginning of, this was probably almost last year, and I had an AK and I immediately picked it up and went like that with my elbow and Luke was like, get that chicken wing out of here!

02:04:33.000 And I was like, what?

02:04:33.000 He's like, pull it!

02:04:33.000 I was like, oh yeah, sorry, I got it.

02:04:36.000 I gotta get more practice, but that was a while ago.

02:04:38.000 I've done better.

02:04:39.000 We went to the range with Forrest Cooper from Recoil.

02:04:41.000 He gave me a lot of good pointers.

02:04:43.000 Really, really helped improve my accuracy with the handgun and with the rifle and stuff.

02:04:48.000 He knows what he's doing.

02:04:49.000 Practicing is important, and it's a lot of fun.

02:04:50.000 But knowledge!

02:04:52.000 Knowledge!

02:04:52.000 When he explained to me certain basics, I was like, oh wow, these are things I needed to hear one time.

02:04:58.000 I need to master, but it really does help.

02:05:00.000 He is fantastically knowledgeable.

02:05:02.000 He was helping me.

02:05:03.000 He was teaching me all about door breaches and the different types of door breaches that they would use.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 16, 2021

Timcast IRL - Rittenhouse Prosecutor AIMS RIFLE AT JURY, Finger ON Trigger w- Drew Hernandez

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