Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Russian Arms Dealer WARNS Biden Admin Will Try To END Trump's Life w-Ron Paul

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:04.000 you we got this really crazy story about this guy named the

00:00:35.000 merchant of death an arms dealer who was released in this trade in exchange and

00:00:41.000 And I guess he's claiming he sent a message to Donald Trump that, I'll keep it very light, the Biden administration would prefer to make it so that he's no longer alive before they let him get in their way.

00:00:57.000 You know, see, I'm being very, very delicate with the description of this story.

00:01:00.000 And so we're gonna talk about that, because that's gonna lead us into a lot of conversations around foreign intervention, war, economic policy, and some cultural issues.

00:01:09.000 There's some, I don't know, some weird actor guy, is that what he was?

00:01:12.000 Luke, he was a weird actor guy?

00:01:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:01:13.000 A musician, actor? 0.86

00:01:14.000 Musician talking about exterminating Republicans.

00:01:17.000 So all of this talk that we've seen is actually quite worrying.

00:01:21.000 And then there's this crazy story about one of the Democrats who was expelled in Tennessee who, well, there's a video of him from a few years ago where he's a middle-of-the-road centrist.

00:01:32.000 And then when you look at videos of him today, he's doing this preacher bit and everyone's saying he's basically grifting.

00:01:38.000 It's either that or we have completely hyperpolarized rapidly.

00:01:43.000 And with talk of, you know, people saying things like exterminate Republicans, yeah, maybe things are getting just a little bit hyperpolarized.

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00:03:07.000 Very nice.

00:03:08.000 Nice to be with you tonight.

00:03:09.000 It is an absolute honor.

00:03:10.000 I've been following you for maybe half my life.

00:03:14.000 I remember back in 2008, you lit a fire under so many young people with the talk of freedom, anti-intervention, sound economic policy.

00:03:23.000 I had friends who were making music videos based off your ideas that were conveying

00:03:28.000 similar messages and arguing on the internet.

00:03:31.000 So it absolutely is an honor, especially considering everything that's going on right now.

00:03:36.000 Would you like to just introduce yourself for everybody?

00:03:38.000 Well, it's an issue that has caught my attention a long time ago because I came across this

00:03:45.000 school of thought in economics called the Austrian School of Economics.

00:03:49.000 It fascinated me.

00:03:50.000 I was practicing medicine.

00:03:51.000 I was studying medicine.

00:03:53.000 I was a resident and going through there.

00:03:55.000 But that was my hobby, was trying to understand how the economic system worked.

00:04:00.000 And I found out in the 1960s, there were a lot of people who were predicting, you know, this idiocy of the Bretton Woods Agreement, the pseudo-gold standard that was set up at the end of World War II. 0.99

00:04:12.000 Even back then, Henry Hazlitt said, it's stupid, don't do it, it doesn't work. 0.98

00:04:18.000 And so the predictions were going, and the black market, the real market of gold, It was fixed. 0.99

00:04:25.000 The dollar was fixed at $35 an ounce.

00:04:27.000 That was official.

00:04:28.000 But we had most of the gold, so we had license to steal by just printing money and handing out the money.

00:04:34.000 And that made it easy for the predictions.

00:04:38.000 It's not going to last.

00:04:39.000 We can see it.

00:04:40.000 It's sort of like today we're talking about, when's the dollar going to end?

00:04:43.000 Well back then it was when was the dollar going to be an honest currency and be backed by gold.

00:04:51.000 Well they had already declared bankruptcy in 1934 because they stole all the gold.

00:04:57.000 Roosevelt stole all the gold from the American people.

00:05:00.000 And so that was a bankruptcy.

00:05:02.000 They promised they'd always give us $35 for paper.

00:05:06.000 And the amazing thing is, is people said, oh, okay, that's fine, just so I can get my goodies and the money works to a degree.

00:05:13.000 So they patched that together, but they never gave the gold back to the people.

00:05:19.000 And that is what led me into it.

00:05:22.000 And when the crash of the dollar came in 1871 is when I thought, I want to speak out on it.

00:05:28.000 and a vehicle was the political system.

00:05:31.000 And then you ended up, how many terms did you serve in Congress?

00:05:34.000 I'd have to go and count them again.

00:05:36.000 About 23 years.

00:05:37.000 Wow.

00:05:38.000 I was in three different times, you know.

00:05:41.000 So it led to more, but I really, I had no desire.

00:05:46.000 I never had a goal of, you know, this is a good deal.

00:05:49.000 I think I have an opportunity.

00:05:51.000 I think I could become a congressman.

00:05:53.000 Never once did that ever cross my mind because I remember so clearly when I talked to my wife, and I was at a very nice medical practice and loved medicine, loved delivering babies.

00:06:04.000 That might seem strange, but I did.

00:06:06.000 I loved delivering babies.

00:06:08.000 And so when I told her, she said, what in the world would you do that for?

00:06:13.000 And I said, I tried to explain to her what I just said, you know, it's an important issue and that's sort of something I've looked after and I want to speak out.

00:06:21.000 She said you shouldn't do it.

00:06:22.000 It's very dangerous and she was not into conspiracy.

00:06:26.000 She didn't know anything about that stuff.

00:06:27.000 But she said it was dangerous, and it turned out that she was right because she says, 0.92

00:06:32.000 it's dangerous because you're gonna probably get elected and mix up our lives.

00:06:37.000 And so I didn't expect to.

00:06:39.000 I thought it was just a speaking opportunity, and that's the way it was for a long time.

00:06:43.000 I was there for six years and decided I wanted to go back to medicine.

00:06:47.000 I still had kids to go through college.

00:06:49.000 And then as time went on, and the conditions didn't get much better,

00:06:54.000 so I ran for Congress again in 1995 and went back into the Congress.

00:07:00.000 But she was right and I was wrong, and even the people who suggested, oh yeah, I got interested in what you were talking about, you know, when you ran for president in 2007 and 2008 and 2012.

00:07:17.000 Believe me, I didn't anticipate that there would be people like maybe in this room that thought, well, you know, that sounds interesting stuff, you know?

00:07:27.000 And so I was fascinated by it.

00:07:29.000 Wow!

00:07:29.000 And then I had this revelation that when I went to the college campuses that young people were more open-minded than old people.

00:07:41.000 I decided the Chamber of Commerce weren't offering us free enterprise, so the young people were responding very well.

00:07:46.000 Matter of fact, the one event that I remember so clearly was when we went to Berkeley.

00:07:52.000 I think Berkeley was considered liberal, wasn't it?

00:07:55.000 The way that little bit liberal but that was my biggest crowd I had 8,000 young people come out and I there's something it because I knew I wasn't that great a speaker so I said that is a great message you know what people want to know and young people want to know and I would emphasize that this is what you're getting into and so I changed my attitude no not every young person in college in a liberal college are all of a sudden going to have you know great wisdom but There was a group there that was, you know, open-minded enough that if they heard something, if it was interesting, that they would grab hold of it.

00:08:34.000 And so since that time, I would say that I have been impressed with the interest that has been shown.

00:08:42.000 And that, to me, is the most important thing.

00:08:44.000 Minds have to be changed, and that's what I hope I can contribute to. 1.00

00:08:48.000 You've certainly done it for, I think, everybody here, so thank you for joining us.

00:08:52.000 And there's a million and one questions I already have, but we'll introduce the other guests while we got Daniel McAdams joining us.

00:08:59.000 Hey Tim, thanks for having me on.

00:09:00.000 Yeah, do you want to introduce yourself to everybody?

00:09:02.000 Yeah, I went to work for Dr. Paul in 2001.

00:09:05.000 I was living in Central Europe as the U.S. 0.99

00:09:07.000 was about to bomb Yugoslavia, and I noticed that there was one great congressman who said, this is the stupidest idea ever. 0.99

00:09:13.000 What the heck are we doing bombing Yugoslavia for? 1.00

00:09:17.000 And I had spent some time down there, and I knew that this was the stupidest thing. 0.98

00:09:20.000 So when I finally got back to DC, just by luck, I guess, I found there was one person I never set out to work in Congress at all, but I wanted to work for this person who got it.

00:09:32.000 And so I was very, very fortunate to have started working for him in 2001.

00:09:37.000 And we went all the way through his last time in Congress, and we started the Ron Paul Institute.

00:09:42.000 In 2013.

00:09:43.000 So this is our 10th year, our 10th anniversary as the Ron Paul Institute.

00:09:46.000 We focus on foreign policy and civil liberties almost exclusively.

00:09:50.000 Awesome.

00:09:50.000 Sounds great.

00:09:51.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:09:52.000 Ian, sitting right next to Daniel over here.

00:09:53.000 Hi, everyone.

00:09:54.000 Great to be here.

00:09:55.000 Good to see you, Ron.

00:09:56.000 Daniel, great to meet you, man.

00:09:57.000 You guys brought up the Restrict Act and actually mentioned something that I've been talking about, calling it the Patriot Act 2.0.

00:10:03.000 Yeah.

00:10:03.000 Thank you.

00:10:04.000 That was great.

00:10:05.000 You nailed it.

00:10:06.000 And we also have Luke Rudkowski.

00:10:06.000 Thank you, sir.

00:10:08.000 Yep, everyone in the chat room is saying, and the Fed, which is pretty awesome.

00:10:12.000 My name is Luke Rudkowski of WeAreChange.org.

00:10:14.000 I'm really excited to ask Ron about his time machine.

00:10:17.000 We're going to find out about that, plus a lot more on this show.

00:10:20.000 The shirt that I'm wearing right now says, I identify as a conspiracy theorist.

00:10:24.000 My pronouns are told you so, which you could get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.

00:10:29.000 And I'm doing an in real life meetup this Thursday, 3.30pm in Austin.

00:10:34.000 Find out more about that on lucanfilter.com.

00:10:37.000 Ron, Dr. No, thank you so much for coming.

00:10:39.000 Dr. No.

00:10:40.000 Well, let's jump into this first story, which will kick things off.

00:10:43.000 We have this from timcast.com, and it says, Victor Bout warns Trump of assassination threat from the Biden administration.

00:10:51.000 Quote, they would sooner end your life than let you stand in their way.

00:10:56.000 Okay, now I'll just stress, The Merchant of Death, as they call him, claiming that the Biden administration is even considering this is just hearsay coming from a guy who is an arms dealer who is Russian.

00:11:09.000 So I'm not saying we should necessarily trust him.

00:11:10.000 I just think the general idea is interesting that this guy is basically calling on Trump.

00:11:15.000 Here's what he said, quote, Therefore, I think it's in the interest of all of humanity.

00:11:18.000 And primarily of the American people, to invite Donald Trump here to Russia, to give him security and protection here, so that he leads this uprising against the globalists, and most importantly, does not allow the elimination of the American people.

00:11:33.000 I just think it's a particularly bold and, I don't know, kind of creepy story, as it were.

00:11:41.000 But I do think that in this vein, we are staring at the potential for World War III, if we're not already in it.

00:11:49.000 Russia wants to put nuclear weapons in Belarus.

00:11:52.000 The U.S.

00:11:52.000 is providing arms, intelligence, and, you know, I'll say this, they're indirectly, the United States indirectly has individuals on the ground, volunteers, who are fighting the Russians.

00:12:03.000 I think that whether or not his sentiment is correct, we are facing some kind of very serious international conflict.

00:12:11.000 So I'm curious, Dr. Paul, your thoughts on everything that's been going on with that?

00:12:15.000 Well, I haven't made up my mind whether or not when people talk about World War III.

00:12:20.000 And most people think in their mind about World War I and World War II as a certain type of war.

00:12:26.000 Tanks and bombs and airplanes and all that.

00:12:29.000 And I can't quite visualize that.

00:12:31.000 I think the world has changed too much.

00:12:33.000 As a matter of fact, politics has changed a whole lot as well.

00:12:37.000 But I've concentrated more recently on thinking about how do revolutions come about?

00:12:43.000 Have there been changes made?

00:12:45.000 Have we had a World War III to do it? 0.93

00:12:48.000 And I'm arguing the case that we're in the middle of it and moving right along that the revolution has been fought and there's been a coup.

00:13:01.000 We don't have any resemblance to a government that believes in a republic.

00:13:06.000 We don't have honest money.

00:13:08.000 We don't have integrity.

00:13:09.000 We don't even have people in Washington that even pretends, you know, that you're supposed to tell the truth.

00:13:15.000 You know, remember just recently there was a congressperson that won, and he won by putting on his resume just a bunch of lies.

00:13:24.000 And the other ones got hysterical, the other congressmen.

00:13:28.000 Telling lies like this!

00:13:30.000 And I got to thinking, well, how many of these people that were complaining about this guy telling lies, how many of them lied when they raised their hand up and swore to uphold the Constitution?

00:13:40.000 Now that's a lie that really has consequences.

00:13:43.000 Actually, you could probably make fun and make a little joke because his jokes weren't, everybody knew he was fibbing.

00:13:50.000 But the real lies are being told, and that is our big problem.

00:13:55.000 But I do believe there has been a coup, and it's been taken over, and if I want to, if I can, I want to just put the date in my mind, and anybody could pick probably any date in the last hundred years.

00:14:05.000 But I have picked November 22nd, 1963.

00:14:07.000 What happened on that day?

00:14:11.000 That was the day Kennedy was murdered by our government.

00:14:14.000 Wow.

00:14:14.000 You know, by the CIA.

00:14:16.000 And at the time, I remember, I was in, matter of fact, Kennedy was killed in Dallas, but he landed at Kelly Air Force Base, and I was a flight surgeon there the day before, and I was aware of this trip.

00:14:31.000 So this was a big thing.

00:14:37.000 And those early years, which we talked about a lot, especially the first year or two,

00:14:41.000 oh, Oswald did it, Oswald did it. And then, you know, the person they talk about most is

00:14:49.000 Allen Dulles as being the instigator of all this.

00:14:58.000 And he, guess what?

00:15:00.000 LBJ immediately said, we have to investigate this.

00:15:04.000 The president has been assassinated.

00:15:06.000 What is it?

00:15:07.000 They never use the word coup.

00:15:08.000 So he's been assassinated.

00:15:10.000 So I guess he puts, there were seven on the commission, and Dulles, you know, Dulles was put on the committee to investigate it.

00:15:22.000 But he was going to make sure they told the truth.

00:15:24.000 It was a big force.

00:15:25.000 But that was a big day in history in my mind.

00:15:28.000 Yeah, that was the beginning of the hostile takeover of the American government by the spy agencies that, of course, have been becoming more powerful, less unaccountable by every decade.

00:15:37.000 They've been doing more crazier things.

00:15:39.000 And then we came to Iran-Contra.

00:15:40.000 They've been getting away with so many crazy things.

00:15:43.000 They'd never, never been held accountable.

00:15:45.000 And for every decade, it's like, oh, yes, The last decade, the CIA did something really horrible, but they were never held accountable for it.

00:15:51.000 But they're definitely not doing it now.

00:15:53.000 Well, they are.

00:15:53.000 But I thought you were going to say 1913.

00:15:57.000 Well, I think that was the groundwork.

00:15:59.000 I start the intellectual changes a little bit before 1913, probably at the turn of the century, you know, the Roosevelt era.

00:16:09.000 And the university started teaching progressivism and gradually they destroyed the whole principle of, like today in medicine, there's no such thing as truth anymore.

00:16:20.000 And this society has become nihilistic because they can do anything they want and they have zero guilt.

00:16:27.000 They have no shame, because they don't believe there is such a thing as truth.

00:16:34.000 And even both religious and non-religious people sort of come around to agreeing, you know, society would do better if they had one rule.

00:16:45.000 Don't commit violence against anybody else.

00:16:48.000 It isn't that complicated.

00:16:50.000 Basically, the Constitution goes along with that, but not many people take that seriously.

00:16:56.000 But no, I think 1913 was a consequence of what was happening in the universities.

00:17:02.000 And the universities are still in bad shape, but the real education that is going on now is continuing, especially in economics and other things.

00:17:13.000 I mean, there's an institute now dealing only with non-intervention in foreign policy, and you take a group like the Mises Institute, they've done a world of good at teaching young people, and I still rely on them to understand free market economics.

00:17:30.000 So that is where the real change is.

00:17:34.000 You know, I'm a fan of homeschooling.

00:17:37.000 And homeschooling can be a salvation, too.

00:17:40.000 And I happen to have a little program for that.

00:17:42.000 But the private schools, they're still legal.

00:17:47.000 In the 1980s, the early 1980s, there was such an effort to close down every private school conceivable.

00:17:54.000 And, you know, there were court cases that, in spite of how bad things were, they recovered from that.

00:18:00.000 But that doesn't make me complacent to think they won't touch us again in private education, because they will.

00:18:07.000 Because when they see that, the people who are telling the truth are the real enemies, and that's what's going on in politics.

00:18:14.000 I'm curious your thoughts on Donald Trump as a candidate, as a president.

00:18:19.000 Is he running again?

00:18:20.000 Yeah.

00:18:22.000 Well, I don't think a lot about it.

00:18:24.000 I think politicians are pretty much irrelevant.

00:18:30.000 You know, they reflect what's going on, but I think the least important thing Well, I can't say that every single thing I did was not related to politics, because I concentrated on one philosophic issue, and maybe made a little impression, and that was what Sound Money is all about, and talking about audit the Fed.

00:18:55.000 Prior to 1976, when I first went to Washington, the Federal Reserve was never talked about, and I thought, boy, people would come up to me, and what are you talking about them for?

00:19:05.000 You know, they'd be wondering about it.

00:19:07.000 So I think that But I really do believe that the politicians just reflect a prevailing attitude of the opinions of the people very very important So what I saw is dramatic and wonderful was during the lockdowns That when crowds finally said enough is enough and they started to rebel against that stuff So it wasn't it wasn't a dictatorship of the majority in a political sense It was the people got disgusted and I woke up and you had

00:19:40.000 Parents waking up, they're ruining our kids, you know, and they would go to PTA meetings and fire some of those people.

00:19:49.000 So I think attitudes are very important.

00:19:51.000 Education is very important.

00:19:53.000 So that's why right now I probably spend 90% of my time trying to understand and pass a message on to others.

00:20:02.000 The reason why I asked about Trump is because you said just a moment ago that you think the change, the revolution was, was it 1963 I think you said?

00:20:10.000 63?

00:20:10.000 Oh no, the beginning, the coup, that was 62.

00:20:16.000 62, sorry I got the wrong.

00:20:18.000 You know, based on this story we pulled up and you have this Russian arms dealer saying Trump's at risk, I'm wondering if you think there's any validity to that.

00:20:27.000 What was that again?

00:20:28.000 The Russian arms dealer claiming that Trump's life is at risk because he's trying to stop globalists.

00:20:35.000 I'm wondering if you think that's absurd.

00:20:38.000 Well, to me, that come across with that is.

00:20:42.000 I probably don't know enough about it to be really astute about it, but it seems so superficial, you know.

00:20:48.000 I'm more into Marxism and why Marxists are nihilists and why the, whether it's the original Marxists or the cultural Marxists of today, that their main goal, since they don't have to worry about truth and honesty, their main goal is chaos.

00:21:07.000 Street chaos, riots, and you don't have to go very far to look around for what's going on.

00:21:14.000 Their goal is, and so I still struggle with it.

00:21:18.000 Why do they do this? 1.00

00:21:18.000 It's so stupid and so harmful. 1.00

00:21:21.000 The only real explanation, it isn't stupidity, it's done on purpose because chaos leads to the breakdown of order. 1.00

00:21:30.000 And that is our real threat. 0.98

00:21:33.000 But it originated, I think, back even before 1913.

00:21:36.000 It's just that actually it was 1963.

00:21:42.000 That assassination was a big thing.

00:21:45.000 That same decade, Martin Luther King and RFK.

00:21:51.000 And over a hundred people that were loosely associated with Kennedy, they suddenly died.

00:21:59.000 Nobody knows exactly which ones were related or what, but there's some noise out there that really indicates that it was a big, big event.

00:22:08.000 Yeah, Bobby Kennedy, Malcolm X as well.

00:22:11.000 I was wondering, what do you think about another Kennedy running for the presidency, and that's Robert Kennedy Jr.?

00:22:17.000 Are you guys excited about him potentially running?

00:22:20.000 Yeah, we talk about it, even though we don't promote legislation, but we talk about it, and he's a friend, and he came out to one of our anti-war conferences.

00:22:34.000 And people loved him, and I think it's great that he's running, but it's not likely... I mean, I'd have him on my program if he would come on, but I probably am not into the endorsing business, you know, because I think that's very secondary to waking up the people.

00:22:55.000 I want the people to wake up about the monetary issue, which we're going to have the opportunity, because this monetary system is just starting to crack.

00:23:03.000 And then the people wake up just like they got sick and tired of the lockdown.

00:23:09.000 And I talk about the football game that I don't remember where it was, but there were 100,000 people showed up and they didn't wear masks.

00:23:17.000 And that was sort of the breakthrough.

00:23:18.000 I thought that was fantastic.

00:23:20.000 The people will wake up and that's what I figure that I can contribute to.

00:23:25.000 Wake people up.

00:23:27.000 I asked you to elaborate on the monetary policy aspect.

00:23:30.000 Right now, we're seeing eggs at $6 for a dozen.

00:23:35.000 We're seeing, you know, banks going insolvent.

00:23:39.000 Can you explain what this economic system is?

00:23:42.000 What's wrong with it?

00:23:43.000 Well, the main reason is you don't have a definition of the unit of account.

00:23:51.000 Because if you were building a building, and you were an architect, you'd want a unit of account or a unit of measurement.

00:23:59.000 How are we going to measure all these things?

00:24:00.000 Are we going to do it in feet, yards, or whatever?

00:24:03.000 Because everything has to be measured.

00:24:04.000 In economics, you have to have a unit of account.

00:24:07.000 And that, of course, is a defined currency.

00:24:11.000 And they can get away with, you know, We're messing it up for long periods of time.

00:24:16.000 We were able to get away with destroying the unit of account, you know, all the way back in 1934 and 1971, the way it is now.

00:24:25.000 But we were very, very wealthy and we still are wealthy, but we're getting poorer because people rely on debt and the debt is growing and the price inflation is moving along.

00:24:40.000 And it's a consequence.

00:24:42.000 That they've destroyed one of the most important items, the most important price in economics is the price of money, how much it takes to borrow.

00:24:52.000 What was it?

00:24:53.000 Minus for a couple years?

00:24:56.000 During that time, the Fed would come up and say, oh, you know, we're having trouble.

00:25:02.000 We want the inflation, the price inflation, we want the destruction of the value of money go at 2% a year.

00:25:08.000 And it's down to minus one or minus two.

00:25:11.000 This is the craziest thing in the world.

00:25:12.000 The last thing they should be doing.

00:25:15.000 But now, and I said, you know, when it finally gets to 2%, you wait, you won't even see it.

00:25:21.000 It'll be 10% after that.

00:25:23.000 And now that's because there's the theory of subjective theory of value that tells you that you can't make those predictions.

00:25:32.000 But you can make predictions that if you mess up with the monetary system, run up debt, All this debt has to be liquidated and we are in the middle of defaulting on that money and that is the crisis we face and right now we're not very far along at accepting what we have to accept if we want to crawl our way out of here and get back to being a productive nation.

00:25:58.000 I just want to go back a little bit to what you said before this statement, because I think this is what really is important about your message.

00:26:05.000 A lot of people are like, what politician is going to save me?

00:26:08.000 And in reality, no politician is going to save you.

00:26:11.000 Personal responsibility is extremely important.

00:26:13.000 What's happening with the big banks, what's happening with the ESG score, the international, multinational corporations running things is far more important, especially when it comes to your own individual decisions that you make in everyday life.

00:26:26.000 And I think this is why that message is so much more important, because everyone's like, please, someone save us.

00:26:31.000 In reality, the only person who's going to save you is you yourself.

00:26:35.000 And you know, you've taken many steps.

00:26:38.000 Homeschooling, you opened up a homeschooling network as well.

00:26:40.000 Can you tell us how that is going and how people could potentially be involved in that?

00:26:44.000 Well, it's the Ron Paul curriculum.

00:26:46.000 You just get on the website there and the school did.

00:26:49.000 It has done steady and does well, but there was a big burst of interest, you know, during COVID.

00:26:57.000 But some of the people went back to the government schools, you know, after that.

00:27:02.000 So I think that People will respond, and that's why the important thing is to keep things legal so that we can do that.

00:27:13.000 And that's why the Internet is so important.

00:27:15.000 It can be a destroyer or it could be our savior.

00:27:18.000 I mean, we do our program, you know, on the Internet.

00:27:21.000 That's where we do it.

00:27:23.000 Programs like this out so that that is and every once in a while.

00:27:27.000 I'll see something.

00:27:29.000 I've always thought the libertarians will take care of that There's a lot of smart people they know this and when the government comes in and takes over the internet they will have competition and I think we're getting it and and And it's just a little bit slow in doing it, but I think as long as you have some freedom there and can use it, but that's why we're in such a threatening period, because they're destroying our First Amendment rights.

00:27:55.000 You know, people are getting punished for this.

00:27:58.000 They lose their jobs.

00:27:59.000 I knew doctors that, you know, I'm taking care of patients, and they say, and they might have You know, their livelihood.

00:28:06.000 And they said, well, if you don't get your shot, you know, you're going to lose your hospital position, your hospital privileges.

00:28:14.000 That that is really wicked stuff.

00:28:16.000 So that that protecting the First Amendment is one of our biggest challenges right now.

00:28:21.000 Yeah, I think the way the First Amendment translates to the Internet is software code.

00:28:25.000 We need access to our software code so we can see if it's spying on us or if it's feeding us mal-information algorithms.

00:28:33.000 It's gonna be like something, an amendment maybe, to the Constitution to guarantee freedom.

00:28:37.000 Let me break that down and actually ask you, Dr. Paul.

00:28:40.000 Ian brings up a great point.

00:28:42.000 When you're on Facebook, when you're on Twitter, they're choosing what you see to manipulate what you think.

00:28:49.000 So how can we have free speech if these big corporations are only letting us see one thing?

00:28:55.000 Well, you can't.

00:28:55.000 And I'll be the first one to tell you that technology, I don't understand a lot of it, but I want it to be free and to make these decisions elsewhere.

00:29:06.000 But no, the big thing isn't You know, Jonathan Turley has done such a great job exposing this.

00:29:14.000 The line has to be drawn.

00:29:15.000 And I bet you there are a lot of libertarians at the beginning of this that always say, well, these companies are private.

00:29:21.000 They can do what they want.

00:29:23.000 We're not going to close them down.

00:29:25.000 But there is an answer for that.

00:29:27.000 They're not private.

00:29:29.000 And early on, I said, they're nothing but the arm of the government.

00:29:34.000 And that's a big difference.

00:29:36.000 And then all of a sudden, we got the proof of that.

00:29:39.000 But that came out now.

00:29:40.000 Not many people are talking about it.

00:29:42.000 But the FBI and the CIA, they work with these companies like all the social welfare, social companies.

00:29:54.000 Well, that is a big deal.

00:29:57.000 And that could be stopped.

00:29:58.000 That should It should be, you know, a violent act to do that, especially when the government's there.

00:30:07.000 That's why we should have...

00:30:08.000 A lot less government.

00:30:11.000 Yeah, and they did it from the very beginning, especially with companies like In-Q-Tel, especially with a lot of the seed funding, especially with a lot of the advancement that government gave companies like Google, Alphabet, to the advantage over their competitors.

00:30:23.000 And I saw a lot of people argue, you know, even just a couple years ago, being like, these companies are private companies, they could do what they want, we have to stand by capitalism.

00:30:30.000 I'm like, You guys aren't even paying attention to what's really going on here, because, as you said, they are arms of the state, they are acting for their own best interest, and they're sowing division in this country, creating order out of chaos to specifically create a situation where we are fighting each other over petty differences, rather than actually looking at the true source of our problem, and that's the dollar being devalued, that's our currency just being thrown away, and our whole livelihoods just being taken away from us, which is absolutely crazy.

00:30:59.000 Do you think it would be righteous to default on the interest to the Federal Reserve?

00:31:04.000 Oh, yeah, I think if I could write a pen and close down the Federal Reserve, I just would and everybody has to scatter.

00:31:13.000 What would be the evolution of our monetary system?

00:31:16.000 What's a better system?

00:31:17.000 But I wouldn't do that.

00:31:21.000 I say the most important thing if you want to act in a somewhat gradual system, because you're not going to do that.

00:31:28.000 You're not going to do it because if you cut the Fed off, the whole thing crashes and there'll be revolutions and all this.

00:31:38.000 So, I started with getting more information.

00:31:43.000 That's why I concentrate on auditing the Fed.

00:31:46.000 Find out what they're doing.

00:31:47.000 And the one thing over the many years that I've worked on this that is the most important information that they hang on to, and that is their transactions with foreign governments.

00:32:00.000 That is really sacred, and they don't want that to happen.

00:32:06.000 I've been told that they work with the Bank for International Settlements in Switzerland, and like the Bank of London, the Bank of Australia, and the New York Federal Reserve are like, they all send money through this Swiss bank.

00:32:16.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:32:17.000 It's a bank for the central banks, and I guess they have to park some of their money in places, but it's the nature of the monetary system.

00:32:25.000 See, if Prior to central banking, which was, you know, the debate started with our revolution with Jefferson and Hamilton, you know, there was no, they weren't discussing the Bank of International Settlements back then.

00:32:41.000 So it's a, it's totally unnecessary in a free market.

00:32:45.000 The most important thing is define the currency by weight or something real and then than prohibiting anybody from disobeying it.

00:32:58.000 The Constitution is pretty clear on it.

00:33:00.000 And some of the states now are reacting to this.

00:33:03.000 States are coming through and trying to develop their own currency because it's tough for them to say, you know, the states can only use, you know, gold and silver as legal tender.

00:33:15.000 Now my bill in Congress was a little bit more generalized.

00:33:18.000 It said repeal all the All the monopoly laws that the government has in control and let the market decide it.

00:33:27.000 But the founders said, no, even the states can't just print up their own money.

00:33:34.000 But I think in a free society, a libertarian society, you could have contracts.

00:33:38.000 If you're setting up a bank and you say, this is the unit of account, and they say, and you're going to use gold, you have to live up to your contract.

00:33:46.000 It seems like crypto is the new contract, which is data.

00:33:49.000 Like, what's the account symbol?

00:33:51.000 It's how much work was done to produce the Bitcoin, or whatever.

00:33:54.000 So you can see on a database, well, there was this much computer power used.

00:33:57.000 Well, yeah, and that gets a little more complex, because if you say, what's behind gold?

00:34:04.000 You know, everybody knows about gold.

00:34:06.000 They've used it for 5,000 years.

00:34:08.000 So people know what it is.

00:34:10.000 But it's always been...

00:34:13.000 Gold didn't fall out of the sky and become money.

00:34:17.000 Gold came out of the ground and was pretty.

00:34:21.000 And they used it.

00:34:23.000 You know, jewelry, and it valued, and all the important things of money.

00:34:27.000 That happened, then it became very practical to be used as money.

00:34:32.000 But you might find 20 things, and more all the time.

00:34:37.000 There's actually things being advanced now.

00:34:41.000 Even when I was in medical school, we studied about, there were some arthritises at That could be treated with gold and silver, gold especially.

00:34:50.000 And there's more and more.

00:34:51.000 Silver's been used as a medication.

00:34:54.000 And so it should be legalized for that reason.

00:34:57.000 But that's what helps make it money.

00:34:58.000 That isn't that you're using money to do that.

00:35:01.000 It means that is what makes it money.

00:35:03.000 I don't think you could make the same argument with a crypto.

00:35:06.000 What are you going to say?

00:35:08.000 We've created a crypto coin because we used to use this in medicine.

00:35:12.000 Well, let me, I wanted to say this.

00:35:15.000 I think because of you, Dr. Paul, you made a lot of people millionaires and billionaires.

00:35:20.000 Because when your message was going around about the U.S.

00:35:23.000 dollar being unsound based on these policies, there were a lot of people that were trying to figure out what they could do to store their value properly.

00:35:31.000 Of course, gold and silver were big.

00:35:33.000 But when Bitcoin emerged, a whole bunch of libertarians and people who had heard your message said, I'm gonna check this thing out.

00:35:42.000 And they bought a bunch and 10 years later there were 300, 400 million dollars.

00:35:47.000 Because governments all over the world are buying crypto and trying to use it.

00:35:52.000 Many people have decided for whatever reason it has value to them.

00:35:56.000 And the early adopters who were paying attention to the problems of the US dollar, they got to rise along with it.

00:36:02.000 So, what does that prove?

00:36:03.000 I don't know if it proves anything.

00:36:05.000 I just think, like, if they listen to you for whatever reason, they ended up becoming very wealthy.

00:36:10.000 Yeah, but the one thing for sure, I wasn't giving investment advice.

00:36:14.000 Right, no, for sure.

00:36:14.000 I mean, it turns out it's okay, but I might have been talking about agriculture.

00:36:19.000 You could go out and buy land.

00:36:19.000 Yeah.

00:36:20.000 Jimmy Rogers, oh yeah, that's what we should do.

00:36:24.000 And that serves that function.

00:36:26.000 But I think that that's a little bit different.

00:36:30.000 The way I answer those questions is, does that mean you want to be cautious

00:36:36.000 and make some rules about Bitcoin?

00:36:39.000 No, I'd let the market decide whether people really want Bitcoin or not.

00:36:44.000 I go to a lot of Bitcoin crypto meetings and things, especially early on.

00:36:54.000 And at these meetings, I became a little bit nervous because they had one individual there

00:37:01.000 that they were hovering around, and these are the people that was running the conference,

00:37:06.000 they were hovering around this woman that said, oh, she had had experience with. 0.99

00:37:10.000 Washington, D.C.

00:37:12.000 as a lobbyist in Ways and Means, and we'll protect you when they start writing the laws about it.

00:37:17.000 And I thought, no, you don't need...

00:37:22.000 That's not my way of looking at it.

00:37:25.000 I mean, if it's designed mainly to prevent fraud or something like that, you have to be open to it, but I just think that you don't need laws, you know, to tell people how to protect against gold.

00:37:40.000 What concerns me about tying money to a hard thing, like gold, is that someone can steal all the gold.

00:37:46.000 Like, if we tie it to anything, then that thing can be taken and hoarded by someone.

00:37:52.000 Maybe, but the silver people back in the 70s, Hunt brothers, they cornered the market and they took it up when silver was $5 or $3, they took it up to $50.

00:38:00.000 They were hoarding it.

00:38:00.000 The silver people back in the 70s, Hunt brothers, they cornered the market and they took it

00:38:06.000 up when silver was $5 or $3, they took it up to $50.

00:38:10.000 They were hoarding it.

00:38:12.000 But the market came along and took care of it.

00:38:15.000 Real quick, Ian, Bitcoin's been stolen tons of times.

00:38:19.000 It happens all the time.

00:38:20.000 They find ways.

00:38:21.000 And right now, gold is at an all-time high.

00:38:23.000 Bitcoin just hit above $30,000 today as well.

00:38:27.000 And I remember doing my coverage of currency collapses in Venezuela and in Zimbabwe, and we were talking about this a little bit before the show.

00:38:34.000 Before a currency collapses, a lot of different things happen before it does.

00:38:38.000 There are many things that happen in many different years.

00:38:41.000 And then all of a sudden, when it drops, it drops quickly.

00:38:44.000 And the effects are one by one by one by one.

00:38:47.000 And it goes by so fast, people are shocked and surprised.

00:38:51.000 Do you think that is possible in the United States?

00:38:53.000 Do you see a possible currency collapse?

00:38:55.000 And potentially, on what kind of timescale?

00:38:58.000 No, I don't think it's possible.

00:38:59.000 It's going to be.

00:39:00.000 It's going to happen.

00:39:01.000 Inevitable.

00:39:02.000 It will, because they can't keep doing this.

00:39:06.000 But, you know, you mentioned that, you know, some of those people that took my advice, I wonder if they're going to give me a cut on what they made.

00:39:15.000 No, it just happened that there was an alternative, and so far the alternative has made a lot of people rich.

00:39:22.000 But do you think there were 10 people, 100 people, 5,000 people, or a million people that bought cryptocurrency or crypto between 30 and 68?

00:39:35.000 And it's on the way up and then on the way down.

00:39:37.000 There's a lot of buying and selling.

00:39:41.000 So it is.

00:39:42.000 Some people make a log.

00:39:44.000 But the whole thing is, I want a definition.

00:39:47.000 I mean, they can do it.

00:39:49.000 It would be legal as long as there's no fraud involved.

00:39:53.000 But you still have to have a definition.

00:39:58.000 I can define A gold dollar.

00:40:02.000 And for us it was not rounded off, but at the time of the Constitution, they had a precise

00:40:10.000 weight of silver, which was the real monetary issue, but the gold was at $42 an ounce.

00:40:19.000 No, $26 an ounce.

00:40:24.000 And that stayed there for a long, long time, but that didn't prove anything other than we had a lot of gold.

00:40:31.000 It's sort of like the Romans did. 0.99

00:40:34.000 They'd advance their kingdom and go out and steal all the gold from the people.

00:40:44.000 And in a way, We have advanced, you know, our empire, and we have become very wealthy, but now we're consuming it.

00:40:51.000 We're consuming it.

00:40:52.000 So definitions will change according to that, but you still know, you know, it was $20 an ounce, and then it went to $35 an ounce, cheated the American people, total fraud, and then it was released in 71, And it went to $800 an ounce.

00:41:11.000 Then it had to be the market adjusting.

00:41:13.000 And that's a benefit.

00:41:15.000 The market will sort that out.

00:41:17.000 But the definition is gone.

00:41:20.000 My argument is you have to have a definition if you want to have a sound economy.

00:41:24.000 And the world has never been on a fiat currency to the extent that we have now with the paper money dollar.

00:41:33.000 I just want to make a quick correction.

00:41:35.000 Gold is not an all-time high, but near all-time high, so I'm sorry if I misspoke.

00:41:39.000 It's close!

00:41:41.000 I wanted to ask you about military intervention and war and all that stuff.

00:41:45.000 I know that you are one of the biggest opponents of the U.S.

00:41:49.000 getting involved overseas, and I'm curious your thoughts on where we've gone since you were in Congress.

00:41:54.000 Has it gotten worse, and what your views are?

00:41:58.000 Well, the principle has gotten much worse.

00:42:00.000 They've endorsed the principle and the big thing was probably one that is annoying to me was because I remember it.

00:42:13.000 And that was, we had World War I, World War II, and we went through the, you know, the process of declaring war and having an enemy.

00:42:21.000 And it did, I think they could have been avoided.

00:42:25.000 But, but it was done the right way in the sense that we declared the war and the wars didn't last that long.

00:42:32.000 We were only an hour, a year or so on a World War I and World War II is three years.

00:42:38.000 Think of how that was taken care of.

00:42:40.000 But after the war, And I remember this issue very clearly because it was in 51, 50, 51, you know, when Truman said, oh, he never probably made it.

00:42:58.000 We have to have a police action!

00:42:59.000 We have to go and, you know, preserve democracy for Korea.

00:43:04.000 And my comparison was, yeah, look, we wanted to do that in South Korea, and we lose 60,000 people and kill millions of the Vietnamese and all this, and then we lose, we walk away, lost all this money and all these lives, and what happened? 0.89

00:43:22.000 Was there a These are just realistic arguments, but was there the domino effect?

00:43:31.000 That's what we were preached to.

00:43:32.000 The domino effect.

00:43:34.000 Communism is going to take over, and they did a lot of that, but guess what?

00:43:39.000 When we lost the war in Vietnam, we left, and all of a sudden something weird happened.

00:43:48.000 They started acting like capitalists.

00:43:53.000 And just think of all we won in peace versus all that we lost in war.

00:43:58.000 And sometimes people won't even think of the slightest consideration that maybe a little bit of that philosophy could be applied to those people who are looking forward to a war with China.

00:44:10.000 I feel like it's like a Chinese finger trap, that you've got so many people who want war, and they make the argument, we need to go there to stop Russia, we need to go there to stop the terrorists, but in doing these things, in engaging in foreign intervention, it's creating recoil, or creating blowback, and it's making the conflicts worse. 0.54

00:44:32.000 That's by design.

00:44:32.000 I mean, that's what keeps the machine running.

00:44:34.000 That's what keeps the money flowing.

00:44:35.000 We talk about the Fed all the time.

00:44:36.000 The Fed is what makes war possible.

00:44:38.000 It's what makes the empire possible.

00:44:40.000 And it's funny because you sit around and you laugh at the domino theory.

00:44:43.000 Oh man, that's like something out of the 60s.

00:44:45.000 We're living in it right now.

00:44:46.000 If we don't stop Russia in Ukraine, they're going to be marching through Paris tomorrow. 0.99

00:44:52.000 They're going to take Estonia. 0.92

00:44:54.000 Where's Estonia?

00:44:55.000 I have no idea, but they're going to take it.

00:44:57.000 I heard it on TV.

00:44:58.000 So we still believe in the domino theory.

00:45:00.000 It's still the basis of our foreign policy.

00:45:02.000 In fact, who was it?

00:45:03.000 It was a politician.

00:45:05.000 It actually may have been McCarthy, Speaker of the House, and I could be wrong, who said, well, we got to fight him.

00:45:11.000 Basically, he literally said we got to fight him over there because otherwise we're going to fight him over here.

00:45:15.000 I mean, I thought the Bush era was over.

00:45:16.000 So these things are just regurgitated because they're enormously profitable to the most well-connected people, you know.

00:45:23.000 The only value I see to foreign intervention is that fascism sometimes can be extremely peaceful.

00:45:28.000 That's one of the worst things about fascism, is it's insidiously quiet.

00:45:32.000 I mean, modern fascism, it's capitalist.

00:45:34.000 They run your social media.

00:45:36.000 They make you see things you don't understand.

00:45:39.000 And so at some point, If you don't do anything, it will just happen around you.

00:45:44.000 Let me try to elaborate on what you're saying.

00:45:46.000 I think what you're saying is what we're seeing with big tech, what we're seeing with the

00:45:49.000 establishment, this authoritarian takeover, subverting our systems, buying people out

00:45:55.000 and slowly creeping in and taking things over.

00:45:57.000 Is that right?

00:45:58.000 Yeah, BlackRock, these mega corporations that are buying land and things like that.

00:46:02.000 It's happening in the name of peace because it's being done with dollars.

00:46:05.000 I don't know if fascism is the right word because some people might take the word fascism

00:46:09.000 literally, but we're seeing State Street, Vanguard, BlackRock, corporatism.

00:46:15.000 They're buying everything up.

00:46:16.000 They're using the system against us and exploiting it.

00:46:19.000 And it's not just that.

00:46:21.000 These big hedge funds and firms, they're getting Federal Reserve money, basically infinitely printed and given to them to do this.

00:46:29.000 So it's the lucrative, I guess fascism is probably the right way to say it, the lucrative merger of corporation and state to take over the whole system.

00:46:37.000 Under Mussolini's definition, and I think you are correct in some instances there, especially with a lot of these institutions like BlackRock having lucrative contracts now in Ukraine.

00:46:46.000 There's a lot of business deals, there's a lot of politicians' sons and daughters who have a lot of interests in that particular region, but I kind of wanted to ask both of you guys, if you guys were the Secretary of State, how do you handle the Ukraine situation right now?

00:47:00.000 What's the call to action?

00:47:02.000 Well, I have a real easy thing to do.

00:47:05.000 It's not complex, and everybody will understand it, but nobody will do it, because I used it in my debates.

00:47:12.000 You know, how are we going to end the wars in the Middle East?

00:47:15.000 Yeah, we've sort of come around to your position.

00:47:17.000 We should have done it, but here we are.

00:47:20.000 And my answer is, we just marched in.

00:47:23.000 We can just march out.

00:47:25.000 Yes!

00:47:27.000 I remember you had a statement where you said, if someone is given the wrong prescription, you don't just keep giving them the same prescription, you stop.

00:47:35.000 That sounds pretty good.

00:47:36.000 Did I say that?

00:47:37.000 Yes, you did say that.

00:47:38.000 Yes, it was brilliant.

00:47:40.000 And I heard that and I said, I don't see it any other way.

00:47:42.000 If we all agree it's wrong, we just stop.

00:47:47.000 Yeah, and I think it's fair to say that they've been prescribed crack.

00:47:50.000 Crack cocaine, and heroin, and fentanyl all mixed into one, and they're high as a kite, and they're doing really horrible things, especially with what's happening in Ukraine right now.

00:47:59.000 There's so many innocent Ukrainians dying, there's so many innocent young men dying in that specific region, and I think, you know, the main reason we didn't blow each other up during the Cold War was because of negotiations.

00:48:11.000 Was because we were able to actually sit at the table and negotiate.

00:48:14.000 We're not even doing that now, which is just absurd and crazy in my opinion.

00:48:18.000 I asked him last night what he would do, and he was like, well, we'd be like, we'd take our troops out and negotiate some sort of economic resolution with Russia.

00:48:26.000 And I don't know, Ron, do you think that that would be ethical?

00:48:29.000 Because I think what they're trying to do is take Sevastopol, the warm water trade port in the Black Sea.

00:48:35.000 But what happens when there's sincere efforts, either with China or Russia, that we could pursue, I mean, the deep state, which is not Republican, not Democrat, they're deep into control of the whole system, they make it so that you become a heathen, you become a Nazi, or they'll give you all kinds of names, you know, and you're unpatriotic, that's the thing.

00:49:01.000 When I wanted to bring the troops home, I was unpatriotic and I didn't care about the troops.

00:49:06.000 I said, how could you argue that?

00:49:07.000 I just want to bring them home so they don't get killed.

00:49:09.000 Yeah, more troops donated to you than any other presidential candidate.

00:49:13.000 People forget about that.

00:49:14.000 And you were one of the only anti-war voices out there that was finally getting at least a little bit of attention on the corporate media, even though it was skewed.

00:49:22.000 Even though when you were polling high, they made sure that it looked like you were polling low.

00:49:26.000 They played so many underhanded tricks against you.

00:49:29.000 I was wondering, can you talk to that a little bit?

00:49:32.000 And how do we navigate this media sphere when they control the narrative and they're playing so unfair?

00:49:39.000 Well, I still, I resort to something that I find my comfort zone, and that is that I'm not there, I don't have the ability, nor is the support there, to really change it.

00:49:53.000 You know, I want to audit the Fed so people understand it.

00:49:58.000 I don't say, okay, the litmus test, if you care about anything at all,

00:50:02.000 you have to sign onto my bill that the Federal Reserve is abolished in two weeks.

00:50:08.000 So I wanted, people just have to discuss it.

00:50:14.000 And that's what happens, it gets turned down.

00:50:17.000 We have opportunity, we could talk to China a lot more.

00:50:20.000 You know, I thought it was pretty exciting when the great Nixon decided to sneak over to China

00:50:28.000 and it was an exciting time.

00:50:30.000 People think, boy, you know, maybe they will change.

00:50:33.000 And they did.

00:50:34.000 But the big problem is that we won't admit is they'd be paying pretty darn good at capitalism.

00:50:40.000 You know, they sold us stuff and they took our money and invested it.

00:50:44.000 And what do we do?

00:50:46.000 We steal the money from the people and then we invest it to the military-industrial complex to go over and drop bombs on people.

00:50:53.000 Then we say, I wonder why they don't like us?

00:50:56.000 I've been thinking lately if we could repurpose our military-industrial complex to start building drones by the tens of millions, and then take them out into space and blow them up for training, and then put onboard artificial intelligence on the drones, the drones can tell us what we're doing wrong, make us better at fighting drone swarms, and then we can not blow people up.

00:51:15.000 Because I think I still want to make it profitable for Lockheed Martin, but I don't want to hurt people with Lockheed Martin.

00:51:20.000 Okay, let me try.

00:51:21.000 I think you bring up an actual interesting point.

00:51:24.000 And I'll put it, I'll rephrase it.

00:51:26.000 I think, I think I understand.

00:51:28.000 The military-industrial complex is going to move towards the path of least resistance, and that is they need war to stay in power, and they want war.

00:51:36.000 So they lobby for war, they get more money from the government.

00:51:39.000 So what we need is to divert their profits into nonsense, like building drones in outer space, so they keep getting lucrative contracts, but eventually fizzle out of existence because they're being given money for the government to do literally nothing.

00:51:52.000 Yeah, they don't need war, they need profit. 0.90

00:51:54.000 And they think that war is the most profitable thing right now, but if we could create a more profitable system, i.e.

00:51:59.000 drone defense...

00:52:01.000 There's one statistic you have to deal with, and I'm not going to argue this is authentic, but I read it, so something.

00:52:10.000 But they say people who get involved in this kind of stuff in the military and all, 5% of them are psychopaths.

00:52:18.000 They love war.

00:52:19.000 It isn't just the money. 0.99

00:52:21.000 They love power, they love money, and a few of them are sort of Bad news psychopaths. 0.93

00:52:29.000 Like that they enjoy hurting other... I know that they like seeing how their weapons train on real people.

00:52:35.000 Like they want to see how it works.

00:52:39.000 Well, this was the article that they were arguing in that case.

00:52:41.000 Some people... Well, you see it in domestic life all the time, you know.

00:52:46.000 You know, it just was so astounding to me when, it's too common now to even be news, but somebody would be robbing a store, and somebody would be lying on the floor just trying to hide, and the hoodlum comes in, it just fills the person with bullets.

00:53:02.000 I mean, that's just nuts.

00:53:04.000 I wanted to ask you, going back to the, you know, you're talking about the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, World War II, I'm not – I'm 37.

00:53:17.000 I'm curious, with everything we're seeing today with political conflict, as you mentioned, with crime, was it at all like this in the 60s, 70s, in the 50s, or anything like that?

00:53:30.000 I wrote something recently, what it was like in 1945, because everybody said the world's going to end tomorrow, and things are very, very bad, and I agreed with that. 1.00

00:53:41.000 I talk about it all the time.

00:53:42.000 But then I just went over the statistics of World War I and World War II.

00:53:48.000 Millions of people died.

00:53:50.000 You know, and it was very a disaster.

00:53:54.000 So it's continued.

00:53:56.000 But the founders made the point, and I'm a strong believer in it, that ultimately the kind of society we have depends on a prevailing attitude, both intellectually and spiritually, of a community.

00:54:12.000 Because, you know, the non-aggression principle, fortunately, can be used by people in In a spiritual realm or in a pragmatic zone?

00:54:24.000 This doesn't make any sense, and yet we continue to do it.

00:54:31.000 But I think it's the nature of mankind, and I never heard discussions about nihilism.

00:54:39.000 Of course, that's been discussed in the philosophy books for a long time, but nothing like it's talked about now, and I've sort of been concentrating on that, because if you don't have truth, which we don't have anymore, then you have nihilists, and you're dealing with people that have no conscience.

00:55:00.000 And when you understand that, then you understand the people who just shoot to kill and do all these things and do all that.

00:55:08.000 That's going to cause chaos and people are going to die.

00:55:11.000 Ah, that will open the doors for true Marxism. 1.00

00:55:14.000 We have to get rid of all this garbage you people are living with. 0.93

00:55:17.000 So for us to devise, you know, the perfect social state We need to get rid of all these notions about freedom and capitalism and honest money. 0.98

00:55:31.000 That is their goal.

00:55:33.000 And since they're nihilists, they don't care!

00:55:35.000 So do you think that the reason we're seeing this spike in crime is that these people are intentionally releasing criminals and not enforcing laws because they want to destroy the system?

00:55:49.000 Well, I think that they've just lost all contact with reality.

00:55:52.000 I think they are psychopathic in that sense.

00:55:55.000 A psychopath has lost, you know, contact with reality, and that sort of can be a collective thing.

00:56:03.000 The mob psychology, I mean, we're operating sort of with a mob psychology that people are joining this, and they have all kinds of excuses.

00:56:13.000 I've been You know, as much as I try to think about this, you know, getting all these corporations and so many people to go along with this lockdown, you know, and most of them are, you know, you think they can't be as far off as I described, but they just go along with it.

00:56:37.000 It's sort of scary, but I think the point that the founders made is they said this Constitution isn't worth much if the people are immoral and have no principles and they don't believe in truth.

00:56:52.000 How can they believe in honest money if they don't have any principles?

00:56:57.000 And they don't have a unit of account.

00:57:00.000 They don't have a unit of account for the money.

00:57:01.000 They don't have a unit of account for social matters.

00:57:05.000 Perhaps this is why they're saying 2 plus 2 equals 5.

00:57:08.000 Which was a big thing they're still pushing, to be honest.

00:57:11.000 Or what is a woman? 1.00

00:57:12.000 Yeah, that's a good example.

00:57:14.000 You said something really profound about the non-aggression principle in regards to spirituality.

00:57:19.000 I know about non-aggression principle militarily, but the idea that in a conversation you could have a non-aggression principle with another human, and that if you live like that, maybe it'll create a society where then that starts to happen.

00:57:31.000 But it happens all the time.

00:57:32.000 I've made optimistic statements, and I have to be careful because it sounds too optimistic.

00:57:37.000 I say, I remember growing up as a kid in the Depression, World War II.

00:57:41.000 I was in grade school, high school, college, medical school, military.

00:57:47.000 And I said, there's hardly anybody that I met that I thought was a real scoundrel.

00:57:54.000 My neighbors have been easy to get along with, and we happen to be believers, so the people we associated with in a spiritual way, they were never a threat to us.

00:58:07.000 So my impression, if it was my narrow impression, most people would say, yeah, but what a boring life you had, you know.

00:58:16.000 And they wouldn't accept this, because life is much different, and you have to have a good time too, you know.

00:58:23.000 Well, it's the old curse, may you live in interesting times.

00:58:27.000 So maybe it's kind of good when your life is boring, you get to focus on your passions, you get to take care of your family.

00:58:32.000 It's good to be forceful in your life, but not necessarily aggro.

00:58:36.000 Like, there's a difference in like...

00:58:39.000 Forcing your personality and beliefs on someone and being aggressive with it.

00:58:44.000 Well, this is the issue I see today.

00:58:46.000 We have what we would refer to as the left and the right, or whatever words you want to use to describe, you know, wokeness and freedom or whatever.

00:58:54.000 One faction says, lie, cheat and steal because the only truth is power, or there is no truth but power.

00:59:00.000 The other side is an amalgam of different ideologies that all tend to agree on the rights of the individual.

00:59:06.000 So I think while all of us in this room may disagree on certain principles or philosophies, we mostly agree with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and that's where we differ with those who seek to use aggression against us, or others, to control them and gain power, we actually think people should be free to live their lives, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

00:59:27.000 Yeah, but I think people The shortcoming comes from, I'll use the word conservative, but the conservative element sometimes wants to tell you exactly how you should live.

00:59:39.000 But if a conservative who wants to do that accepts the principle of non-aggression, yes, he can be critical.

00:59:47.000 He might want to approve it, because if it happens to be somebody in your family or a friend and they're killing themselves with drugs and all that, you might try to help people.

00:59:57.000 But I think that people...

01:00:02.000 You know, we'll respond, but the problem is that there's this momentum, and I think economics have a lot to do with it, you know, because things, even though there's still a lot of wealth in this country, and people think they're a lot richer than they really are, because it's all on debt, And that's why bad times are coming, because it's gonna get worse when they know how poor they really are.

01:00:33.000 Well, there's a couple questions I have for you.

01:00:36.000 Why do you think we're seeing this explosion of homelessness in so many major cities?

01:00:41.000 And why is it that they are, at the same time, and I think these are related, don't get me wrong, but I'm bringing them both up.

01:00:47.000 They say that it's hard to find workers, but we're also seeing this wave of unemployment, I'm sorry, of homelessness You'd think those two things would solve themselves. 0.98

01:00:57.000 I think it's a reflection of a stupid policy welfareism. 0.99

01:01:01.000 And that means they know it. 1.00

01:01:04.000 Look what look what happened when when the covid broke out and people wanted to take advantage of it.

01:01:09.000 Everybody got checks, big checks.

01:01:12.000 And they have so much money that they printed it sitting around.

01:01:15.000 How are we going to spend all?

01:01:16.000 So they feel like they can trust that.

01:01:19.000 But the trouble is, is the payment comes in a different way.

01:01:23.000 The taxes are very high, much higher than I really think.

01:01:25.000 The liquidation of debt, the default.

01:01:28.000 People keep worrying about, will the government not send me my check?

01:01:31.000 Is there going to be a default?

01:01:32.000 The default is rip-roaring and it's going to get a lot worse.

01:01:36.000 That means that if I owed you $100 last week and I can give it to you today, it's only worth $50.

01:01:43.000 You've lost $50.

01:01:45.000 And governments do that.

01:01:47.000 They steal from you and they transfer wealth and that's where the real problem is. 0.95

01:01:52.000 And people don't understand that because they say, The one statement that I've heard for so many years is the people who get into trouble as a result of stupid government, they say, uh, the only problem I have is I don't have enough money to pay my bills. 0.94

01:02:09.000 I go to the grocery store and it's $200 and I only have $100. 0.91

01:02:13.000 So it's always a shortage of money.

01:02:15.000 And the problem is there's too much money printed out of thin air and it doesn't have value to it.

01:02:20.000 There's no unit of account.

01:02:21.000 So having a unit of account in social things and economic matters, I think, are very similar.

01:02:27.000 This is how I explain it to people.

01:02:28.000 I went onto Amazon and I was searching for a tablet, put it in my shopping cart, and I think it was like $470.

01:02:38.000 I forgot to buy it.

01:02:40.000 Two days later or so, I go back on Amazon and there's a notice.

01:02:43.000 It says, a price change for an item in your cart.

01:02:47.000 I click it and it says this item is now $600.

01:02:52.000 This is the easiest way for the average person to understand how inflation is happening so rapidly.

01:02:58.000 I could have bought it two days ago for 150 bucks less.

01:03:02.000 Well, that means if you made a plan and said, okay, I make X dollars per hour, I have Y bills, and the tablet costs Z, that means I have to work this many hours to be able to buy this tablet at the end of the month.

01:03:18.000 So you work those hours, and then by the time the end of the month comes, the tablet now costs twice as much.

01:03:23.000 Because you weren't actually making any money, as you were working your job and saving, you were losing money.

01:03:29.000 See, free market, Austrian economy, is completely different than Keynesianism.

01:03:36.000 Keynesianism believes in the computer, you put in the numbers, and they'll tell us, print $100 here, and the people will do this.

01:03:42.000 That's not true.

01:03:44.000 It never works out, because One of the principles of Austrian economics that has helped me understand it is the artificiality of it.

01:03:58.000 It's the pseudo-theory that you can't measure things that way because there's a psychological factor there.

01:04:08.000 And it's how bad we want it.

01:04:10.000 So if we doubled the money supply in this room, We're not all going to do the same thing.

01:04:17.000 You can't tell what the people will do, what their measurement will be.

01:04:20.000 Some might save it, some might spend it.

01:04:23.000 That's why this theory, this objective theory of value, I think explains it.

01:04:28.000 That's why it's a mishmash.

01:04:30.000 That's why you can go, you know, ten years and gold prices doesn't move, and yet they've been printing money like crazy.

01:04:38.000 Then all of a sudden we have our prices going up.

01:04:41.000 But that's all explainable through Austrian economics.

01:04:44.000 I did find that really interesting that the price of gold has been fairly stagnant, I think, over the past ten years.

01:04:51.000 Is that artificial?

01:04:52.000 Is it being artificially helped out?

01:04:53.000 Well, there's a lot of manipulation.

01:04:55.000 That's the most important price fixing that they can do.

01:04:58.000 Because the gold eventually will measure value.

01:05:01.000 They will be the unit of account.

01:05:01.000 No matter.

01:05:04.000 And that's the last thing that they have to cling to to say that the dollar still has value.

01:05:13.000 And they've been able to manipulate.

01:05:15.000 Boy, ever since Roosevelt went in and took the gold in, it was $35 an ounce.

01:05:21.000 I was way wrong on that.

01:05:21.000 Oh, I'm way off.

01:05:22.000 I think even today they can manipulate that price of gold and...

01:05:27.000 Oh, I'm way off. I was way wrong on that, sorry.

01:05:29.000 But they will have to...

01:05:31.000 You know, eventually there's going to be chaos from it, and that's why we would like to try to avoid it.

01:05:37.000 So, real quick, just a correction.

01:05:40.000 In January of 2001, gold was $265 an ounce.

01:05:41.000 It reached a peak around September of 2011 at $1,700.

01:05:42.000 It dipped down August 2015 to $1,121.

01:05:43.000 And as of today, it is bouncing around near $2,000 and officially crossed to $2,018.

01:05:46.000 of 2011 at $1,700, it dipped down August 2015 to $1,121, and as of today it is bouncing around near

01:05:55.000 $2,000 and officially crossed to $2,018. So actually, it skyrocketed after the first economic

01:06:01.000 crisis, went down a little bit, and then skyrocketed back up again with the past economic crisis.

01:06:06.000 So yeah, gold is way up.

01:06:07.000 Okay, that $1,000 was in 2015 or something?

01:06:08.000 thousand dollars was 19 2015 or something yeah when I watched that as

01:06:08.000 Yeah, 2016.

01:06:16.000 the beginning of the current bull market in gold Because you had bull market $35 up to $800, then you had $1,000 up to, well, the second one.

01:06:27.000 But this is the third one, where it was $1,000, now it's up to $2,000.

01:06:31.000 And I think it's just the beginning.

01:06:33.000 If you look at percentages of what happens in a bull market in gold, what's the percentage going from $35 up to $800?

01:06:40.000 Even though it didn't stay there. That's that's the movement that it had 250% or something like that

01:06:45.000 Is it so it's possible? It's more more than that. It's possible

01:06:48.000 We'll see like a 10x increase in the cost of gold the value of gold

01:06:51.000 I don't know what you call it cost or value is the same is the word interchangeable?

01:06:54.000 What I like to could you see gold going up by one magnitude from two thousand to twenty thousand an ounce?

01:07:01.000 Yeah, I think it'll go to zero.

01:07:03.000 I mean, I think it won't be in trading.

01:07:05.000 I think the dollar will go to zero before that.

01:07:08.000 But no, yes, it will.

01:07:10.000 If they've held it together longer, yeah.

01:07:14.000 I think in your lifetime you'll see gold at $5,000 an ounce, if they can keep it from totally crashing the economic system.

01:07:23.000 I agree.

01:07:23.000 I'm looking at this chart right now and it compares the dollar, the Dow Jones, the S&P 500, and gold.

01:07:29.000 And if in the year 2000 you invested all your money in gold, it would be worth twice as much as stock in the Dow Jones or S&P 500.

01:07:37.000 Did you compare it to crypto?

01:07:40.000 If you bought Bitcoin around 2009 or whatever, it would be worth 20,000%.

01:07:44.000 Oh, from the beginning?

01:07:44.000 or whatever, it would be worth 20,000 percent.

01:07:48.000 So...

01:07:49.000 Oh, from the beginning.

01:07:50.000 From the beginning.

01:07:51.000 And...

01:07:52.000 Do it.

01:07:53.000 Do it.

01:07:55.000 2016 was when gold was a thousand bucks, so I think 2016 would be an interesting metric.

01:08:00.000 From 2016?

01:08:01.000 So let's do this, do this.

01:08:01.000 Yes.

01:08:05.000 So if you were to buy Bitcoin in... Okay, why is it... Okay, there we go.

01:08:11.000 2016.

01:08:11.000 Yeah.

01:08:12.000 Let's say... Let's go back to 2018.

01:08:15.000 Bitcoin was at $8,000.

01:08:15.000 Let's go back to 2018.

01:08:16.000 Bitcoin was at $8,000.

01:08:19.000 Today it's at $30,000.

01:08:21.000 So it's...

01:08:23.000 So, I'm going to go ahead and close this.

01:08:24.000 So you can look at charts and probably prove almost anything you want on the short run.

01:08:28.000 You mentioned... I'll just put it this way.

01:08:30.000 In the past five years, Bitcoin is up 113%, gold is 53%, S&P 500 is 52, Dow Jones is 35.

01:08:41.000 If you go back to the year 2000, you know, I think it's not necessarily relevant for, you know, people my age, then you would have gained way more buying gold than anything else.

01:08:52.000 And then in the past five years, the S&P 500 and gold are comparable.

01:08:57.000 You know, we all look at that and we think about investments.

01:09:01.000 How do we protect our wealth?

01:09:02.000 And that is important because that's how do I live?

01:09:07.000 But ultimately, if you look at all those different investments that we have that we can do, Actually, the only thing that's going to be important to us is if we have our freedom.

01:09:20.000 Because what did Roosevelt do?

01:09:23.000 Within one announcement, a month after he was in office, he took all the gold in.

01:09:27.000 By force?

01:09:28.000 Yeah, confiscated the gold.

01:09:29.000 There was gold confiscation in the United States.

01:09:31.000 Many people don't even know about it.

01:09:32.000 And nobody owned gold.

01:09:34.000 In the United States, there was a lot of owned gold from 1933 up till 1975.

01:09:41.000 And that was when I was trying to get gold legalized, you know.

01:09:46.000 That's a long time.

01:09:47.000 So that's pretty amazing.

01:09:49.000 But I think one of the most important metrics to look at is the purchasing power of the dollar.

01:09:54.000 And when you look at that and what it used to buy you and now what it buys you, I mean, there's horrible, tragic stories of individuals burying their money or putting it it underneath their couch. And I'm like, people don't

01:10:05.000 understand, one of the biggest taxes out there is inflation. It's a hidden tax. Many people don't

01:10:10.000 know about it, but the value of your dollar, of what you worked hard for, is slowly

01:10:14.000 being eviscerated by the government and their irresponsible financial policies.

01:10:18.000 That was a story where a young couple opened up the floorboards in their attic and found

01:10:25.000 a box that their grandfather, or this guy's grandfather, had hidden away with $50,000

01:10:33.000 in it.

01:10:34.000 Of paper money?

01:10:35.000 Paper money.

01:10:36.000 And boy, were they so excited to find $50,000, and they're like, wow, little do they realize that it's basically a million dollars if he had properly invested it, because the U.S.

01:10:45.000 dollar is not sound.

01:10:47.000 Exactly, and just seeing this happening, because now I think it's kind of quickening.

01:10:51.000 Now when you go to the grocery store, you see it more and more kind of evident, and more and more in your face.

01:10:56.000 Not just with egg prices, but that has to deal with a lot of other circumstances and situations.

01:11:00.000 But overall, when you're at the grocery store, when you pay for everything, it's a lot more than it was before, and that's not an accident.

01:11:06.000 We just went to the grocery store, And as we are checking out, it was $200 for like one half bag of, it was like cheese, tea, some meat, and some hummus, and then we were like, how is this $200?

01:11:20.000 What is it?

01:11:21.000 Well, it was like $8 for a little thing of hummus, it was $8 for a pack of cheese, and we were like, Yeah, we filled up a bag with, you know, some deli meats, some cheese, some dips, and some drinks, and they're like eight to ten bucks each.

01:11:34.000 And it doesn't take a genius to see all of this, because during COVID, they were like, we're going to give you guys a $2,000 check, but we're going to give you a billion dollars more to all the private entities and corporations that we're in business with.

01:11:46.000 And having that much of money just printed out of thin air, those $2,000 were nothing compared to the secret corporate and banking bailouts that were given out to some of the biggest institutions in the world.

01:11:56.000 Their losses were publicized.

01:12:02.000 Their profits were privatized.

01:12:03.000 This is a system that we're dealing with right now that isn't capitalistic.

01:12:07.000 This is socialism for the super-rich.

01:12:10.000 Everyone else, screw yourself.

01:12:12.000 And this is a big notion that I think a lot of leftists need to understand here.

01:12:15.000 This is not capitalism.

01:12:16.000 This is direct elitism, socialism for the super-rich that are able to get away and do whatever they want while everyone else is being screwed over.

01:12:25.000 You know, the words that they use makes a big difference, too, because even here, and I'll do it quite frequently, but I try not to ever refer to inflation as a CPI and prices going up.

01:12:37.000 And Mises, I used to say, well, that's just semantics.

01:12:40.000 Just, you know, qualify it or something.

01:12:42.000 But Mises said, no, that's on purpose.

01:12:45.000 Because if the price of such and such went up, that means Profits.

01:12:50.000 They made too many profits.

01:12:52.000 Oh, labor's going up too fast.

01:12:53.000 Labor unions did that. 0.97

01:12:55.000 At the same time, if we concentrate on the inflation, it's back to the money.

01:13:01.000 If you dilute the money supply by printing money, that is the culprit.

01:13:06.000 That's the inflation.

01:13:07.000 So I try never to talk about the CPI.

01:13:09.000 Oh, it showed a lot of inflation last year.

01:13:11.000 But this is a trick many leftists use.

01:13:14.000 I see them say something like, the economy's not doing poorly, these corporations brought in record profits.

01:13:20.000 And it's like, yes, inflation is at 15%.

01:13:24.000 So if a corporation brings in, say, 10 billion more dollars, and they typically bring in 100 billion dollars, it is just rising with inflation.

01:13:33.000 That is to say, the buying power of what they brought in is the same.

01:13:37.000 But the monetary number is bigger.

01:13:40.000 Therefore, it's the corporations' fault for making record profits, and that's the trick they use to say, see, capitalism's the problem.

01:13:47.000 These corporations are making record profits while you're suffering.

01:13:50.000 No.

01:13:50.000 The reason you can't buy milk, bread, and eggs is because it's six bucks for a carton of eggs right now.

01:13:55.000 And so that means those corporations, their costs have gone up the same, and so their profit percentage is the same, but the number is bigger because of inflation.

01:14:04.000 Yeah, talk in percentages and not in finite amounts when you want to talk about profits.

01:14:08.000 That's a good point.

01:14:08.000 Those are the tricks they use to be like, oh, how did they make 50 billion this year?

01:14:11.000 You know, Ron, you mentioned units of account and how our money has lost a form of account and that gold used to be the way you would account for money.

01:14:19.000 And then you said something about social account, a unit of account for social, social units of account.

01:14:25.000 What did you mean by that?

01:14:26.000 Well, I think you have to have a value.

01:14:29.000 Denialists have a value. 1.00

01:14:31.000 Truth doesn't exist.

01:14:32.000 The other one is, there is truth out there.

01:14:36.000 And it might not be, you might not have the same definition, but in principle, all the way back to before Hammurabi wrote his code, they had an idea and the code would define Even back then, when it was such a primitive era, they said you should kill people.

01:14:57.000 You should steal from people.

01:14:59.000 And it's a higher law.

01:15:01.000 It's a higher law that was known to all civilizations.

01:15:05.000 And I think that you have to have that.

01:15:09.000 But truth versus nihilism is a good way to do it.

01:15:12.000 But I think it's also a higher law which has been known about and accepted on You know, from the beginning of time, from the time of Adam and Eve, it implies right and wrong, good and bad.

01:15:29.000 And if you have that, you have no unit of account on social order.

01:15:32.000 So is this like a social credit score?

01:15:35.000 Kind of like a... Let's hope not.

01:15:37.000 Is it like an aberration of what we're supposed to think is truth, like truth is what they tell you it is, as opposed to truth is don't kill people?

01:15:46.000 I guess it could be, but the social credit thing, I don't want to get near that one.

01:15:51.000 I agree.

01:15:51.000 And I wonder if losing touch with our unit of account from the Bible, I was never really raised in that way religiously, but I think that there is value to it.

01:15:59.000 That if we lose touch with that, then another form of account will come in, like you account to the state, something like that.

01:16:05.000 I think the woke left have no moral framework.

01:16:09.000 It's just power.

01:16:11.000 And then the traditional Judeo-Christian values of the United States is a moral framework.

01:16:16.000 So, I think that's a big dividing point in the culture war.

01:16:19.000 Those who, and I said this before, Bill Maher's a great example of this.

01:16:23.000 He says he's an atheist, he doesn't believe in God, but he holds all of these Christian values, such as the presumption of innocence, which is rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, is the principal example I tend to use.

01:16:37.000 But here's a guy who was raised in a society that held these values to be true,

01:16:42.000 he then says, but I don't believe about him, I don't believe anything about a man in the sky

01:16:45.000 or a resurrection or anything.

01:16:47.000 And that's, those stories are totally separate from the moral values of presumption of innocence,

01:16:51.000 for example.

01:16:53.000 And so he grows up, he lives a life, and he says, I don't believe those stories,

01:16:56.000 but I'm gonna tell you, we have to hold these values true.

01:17:00.000 When people then grow up completely outside of that religion,

01:17:03.000 that never even hearing the stories or any of those values, they don't recognize presumption of innocence.

01:17:09.000 What do they recognize?

01:17:10.000 The only thing that matters is how powerful you are and what you can take.

01:17:15.000 Very well.

01:17:16.000 I've got a burning question I wanted to ask you at the beginning of the show, Ron, and I'll ask you now.

01:17:19.000 If you had the Internet in 1976 before you ran for Congress, would you have started a YouTube channel instead?

01:17:28.000 I had trouble starting it in 1976.

01:17:31.000 1982 or 1992?

01:17:32.000 No, I think about it in theory, and in principle, and usage, and the practicality, and how you get the information out.

01:17:42.000 And my job, I've spent most of my time is trying to understand things.

01:17:46.000 That's why I was fascinated with just the fundamentals of economic policy.

01:17:50.000 It was the Leonard Reed in the Foundation for Economic Education.

01:17:54.000 To me, this was exciting.

01:17:56.000 And I used to kid myself.

01:17:57.000 I said, boy, I'm sure glad I found these people that agree with me.

01:18:02.000 Of course, it was the other way around, because it's been there a long time.

01:18:07.000 So I think that, you know, people can find the thing.

01:18:14.000 But that to me was the most interesting thing, is to search.

01:18:18.000 I think once you discover that you're not going to know You know, we might just say we all agree on the general principles.

01:18:24.000 That sounds good.

01:18:26.000 Having truth and non-aggression principle.

01:18:28.000 But each one of us might apply it a little bit differently.

01:18:31.000 Because the one thing the conservatives can't do is leap over this and accept, you know, somebody else's personal behavior.

01:18:41.000 And then they want to regulate that.

01:18:43.000 That means they've leaped over too far.

01:18:46.000 And that means they have to use force to do that.

01:18:49.000 That's why the idea of aggression has to be very, very definite.

01:18:53.000 You said something at the very beginning of the show about there being no honest people in Washington, D.C., or something to that effect, and I wanted to say this right away, but I can think of at least one.

01:19:02.000 I can think of more than one, but to be fair, at least one, and that's Rand Paul, who, your son, obviously, and then you also mentioned, you know, you had kids in college, and I think that Rand is one of the only politicians that I think is doing a good job that actually is doing right.

01:19:20.000 I think they're all far from perfect, but everyone's human.

01:19:22.000 And then there's people like Thomas Massey, who I think is doing a tremendous job.

01:19:24.000 Man, Massey's very good.

01:19:26.000 I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the current state of Congress, and obviously I assume you think your son's doing a good job, but I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

01:19:33.000 Well, once again, I don't get into the detail of that.

01:19:37.000 I've, over the years, don't even like using their names.

01:19:42.000 We had a little rally after they did allow me in.

01:19:47.000 At the time of the election, they didn't permit me to speak at the convention.

01:19:56.000 So we had our own rally.

01:19:58.000 I think I was, where were we?

01:19:59.000 In Florida someplace.

01:20:00.000 I was there.

01:20:01.000 It was a great event.

01:20:02.000 Well, anyway, it was.

01:20:04.000 And I think I spoke, on average, about an hour or so.

01:20:08.000 And I did, and the crowd was just great.

01:20:10.000 And I never say, oh, I gave a great speech.

01:20:13.000 I say, the crowd makes your speech.

01:20:15.000 It made all the difference.

01:20:17.000 And so I was You know, just really amazed, you know, at at the reception that we got there.

01:20:27.000 So it was huge.

01:20:28.000 It was a stadium.

01:20:29.000 There was multiple stadiums in Florida that that particular year as well.

01:20:34.000 And there was multiple shows and multiple people being like, this is a representation of the people.

01:20:39.000 That's not being represented by the corporate media.

01:20:41.000 That's not being represented by the political class.

01:20:43.000 And there was so much discontent because finally we had a voice that was being heard, but it was being censored by the media.

01:20:48.000 But it was being downranked everywhere, which was crazy.

01:20:51.000 Well, when I finished that speech, somebody came up to me, and it might have been a friendly reporter or somebody that wasn't coming.

01:20:59.000 Matter of fact, it maybe was a criticism.

01:21:03.000 I didn't know it.

01:21:04.000 A person came up, he says, you know, you talked for over an hour.

01:21:08.000 He says, who were my opponents?

01:21:10.000 Let's see, that was Trump.

01:21:13.000 No, I don't think that was Trump.

01:21:14.000 I think that was Romney.

01:21:16.000 Romney, yeah.

01:21:18.000 Gingrich.

01:21:19.000 No, who was the Democrat?

01:21:21.000 That was 2008.

01:21:23.000 Obama.

01:21:25.000 And the guy comes up and he says, you talked for an hour.

01:21:29.000 He says, you never mentioned either their names.

01:21:33.000 You're supposed to go after your opponents.

01:21:36.000 So I didn't mention the Republican or the Democrat.

01:21:38.000 So I put that down on the list.

01:21:41.000 Well, I think it's a distraction.

01:21:43.000 I never enjoyed it.

01:21:45.000 Even though I have to admit that I've been getting pretty sloppy and Daniel has to put up with it because what I do.

01:21:51.000 There's one person that does upset me and it happens to be a woman and that doesn't mean I don't like women. 0.99

01:21:58.000 I mean, I'll tell you.

01:22:00.000 And ask Nancy Pelosi.

01:22:02.000 Oh, we all agree with that.

01:22:06.000 I think she's a nihilist. 0.98

01:22:08.000 Oh yeah, a narcissist, power-hungry.

01:22:11.000 If I could just ask you, throughout all of your years surrounding by all of these horrible people in Congress, do you attribute what they're doing because of malice or ignorance?

01:22:21.000 Why do you think they were doing what they were doing?

01:22:23.000 Why do you think they're such a cause for battle?

01:22:25.000 Let me just simplify that, Luke. 1.00

01:22:26.000 Are they stupid or are they evil? 1.00

01:22:30.000 Yes. 1.00

01:22:35.000 I think that the problem that I look at is intellectual and philosophic.

01:22:42.000 We started a conversation with talking about, you know, 1913, and I says even a little earlier, I think people are influenced by By that type of thing, and the control of the scenario, the control of the propaganda, is the real problem.

01:22:58.000 Now the individuals, they're sloppy, they're not well informed.

01:23:03.000 You know, I had people come up, some liberal Democrats, when I first went there in the 70s, they'd come up and they'd say, I can't figure out what you're doing.

01:23:12.000 Why are you boating with this guy over here?

01:23:14.000 And I just sort of laugh because I got a charge out of it.

01:23:18.000 But, no, there's, and I think there's, that's where we're making progress.

01:23:24.000 I think people are.

01:23:25.000 That's why I love to see young people talking about these issues.

01:23:30.000 I think most people don't know how much influence they have because I certainly don't believe some of the things people tell me.

01:23:37.000 Oh, you do this and you do that.

01:23:41.000 All you have to do is have a small, small group.

01:23:45.000 If you have 10 people, and you're even denied the information, you'll never know how many people watch your show.

01:23:53.000 We've probably got about 50,000 or more right now.

01:23:56.000 But you don't know what that 50,000 might do in the next 10 years.

01:24:00.000 That's the way things change, ideas.

01:24:03.000 And I'll say this to you, and one thing I've only realized maybe like a year ago is people tell us when they're watching, they're actually watching with three or four other people.

01:24:10.000 So it says one, but it's actually a family or it's a group of friends who are hanging out.

01:24:14.000 But I'll say this to you, Dr. Paul and Congressman, I don't know if I would be here right now if you were not doing what you were doing You know, throughout your entire career.

01:24:27.000 The things that I started learning online, the speeches that I saw from you, had a tremendous influence.

01:24:32.000 And I think, Luke, obviously the same thing.

01:24:34.000 He's at your rallies.

01:24:36.000 So, you may get started with this one idea, and as you mentioned, you tell the ten people.

01:24:40.000 Those ten people tell ten more.

01:24:41.000 Those ten people tell ten more.

01:24:43.000 And before you know it, thirty years goes by, and you're sitting on some dude's podcast, who's like, remember that one thing you said about the wrong prescription for war?

01:24:50.000 And you're like, oh, did I say that?

01:24:52.000 Had a huge impact on my view of a lot of this stuff, too.

01:24:55.000 So, I think, you know, there's probably a lot of people out there right now who hear even this show, and we don't even realize.

01:25:00.000 Okay, I always, in more private conversations, when we get into these talks like this, I always want to know more about, you know, where you were, why you changed, what happens, and I don't do it for you to say nice things about me, but what was it that caught your attention?

01:25:19.000 Mine is a little bit more complex.

01:25:21.000 Excellent.

01:25:22.000 I narrowed down to monetary issues.

01:25:24.000 Do you remember what it was that got your attention?

01:25:29.000 I voted for Obama in 2008.

01:25:31.000 I had seen a lot of things on the internet.

01:25:33.000 I had a lot of friends.

01:25:34.000 I had heard about you.

01:25:35.000 I had seen the revolution stickers and things like that.

01:25:39.000 I think that was around that time.

01:25:41.000 It's been a long time.

01:25:42.000 But I remember I remember Barack Obama was supposedly going to be the anti-war guy, that the Bush era was completely wrong, people were marching through the streets saying he was Hitler, and then I'm this young kid, and I'm listening to punk rock music, war is bad, war is wrong, blah blah blah, and I agree, I'm like, I don't understand why we keep hearing these stories about civilians being killed, I don't understand.

01:26:04.000 And I research it and I learn about it.

01:26:06.000 And I start to understand the history and I read about, you know, Desert Storm and things like that.

01:26:11.000 I was a lot younger. I read about the Cold War.

01:26:13.000 And then I say, I don't trust the government.

01:26:16.000 Barack Obama is supposedly going to be hope and change.

01:26:19.000 And I'm young and naive.

01:26:20.000 And people tell me, you got to understand, he's an insurgent candidate.

01:26:24.000 He's not supposed to be there.

01:26:24.000 It's supposed to be Hillary.

01:26:25.000 She's the establishment. 0.67

01:26:28.000 Vote for Obama.

01:26:29.000 And I'm like, wow, is this really the change?

01:26:32.000 And you know what one of the first things Obama does when he gets into office is he bombs a village of women and children.

01:26:37.000 with a drone strike, or I think it might have been an airstrike or something like that, under the guise of terrorist hunting, and I was like, okay, well that's weird, but maybe that was from the old administration.

01:26:47.000 Like, I'm gonna give him a chance.

01:26:48.000 And then he surged our troops in Afghanistan, and then I just got really jaded and angry, and was just like, so they lied to me.

01:26:55.000 The whole time.

01:26:56.000 Sounds to me like the war issue was a big issue for you.

01:26:59.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:27:00.000 And of course then, everything you had been saying about the war was, I started asking myself, why is it That it's this Republican candidate who is preaching against war, who's still preaching against war, who is now, I can see, has the track record of actually caring about these issues.

01:27:16.000 And then I started to see the hypocrisy in these other liberal and Democrat voters who told me they opposed the war, but the moment Barack Obama got elected, they stopped caring.

01:27:24.000 And I was like, you lied to me!

01:27:26.000 That put a chip on my shoulder and I got deeply offended and distrustful of these people.

01:27:31.000 And not to mention, I never liked Republicans as it was.

01:27:33.000 So what I ended up seeing was more of... I've never considered myself like a right-leaning libertarian or a conservative.

01:27:41.000 I remember seeing you give certain speeches where I was like, well, I don't agree with that.

01:27:45.000 But the one thing I always said, and I think the Mises caucus actually quoted me and they made a little graphic was, I thought to myself, You know, this guy Ron Paul is saying, you know, here's what I believe, but you know what?

01:27:55.000 I think the government should leave you all alone.

01:27:57.000 And I thought to myself, well, okay, I can vote for that.

01:28:00.000 He can believe whatever he wants as long as he leaves me alone, right?

01:28:03.000 And so that was a big factor in, you know, I would consider myself kind of like a centrist libertarian type, more, you know, like more freedom, less government, a little bit of government.

01:28:12.000 I'm not an anarchist or anything like that.

01:28:14.000 But I think the Obama being a liar thing, and it was kind of like they spat on me.

01:28:20.000 They lied to me, they insulted me, and I just don't trust them.

01:28:22.000 And I see you consistent.

01:28:25.000 And I was a huge Bernie Sanders supporter in 2015 and 16 for a similar reason.

01:28:30.000 He was more what I thought of as the left-wing version of you.

01:28:34.000 Anti-war, pro-worker, all these things.

01:28:36.000 Sure enough, that was another lie.

01:28:37.000 He ends up just Catering straight to the establishment the moment they tell him to.

01:28:42.000 Makes a million bucks selling a book and then says, you can be a millionaire if you write a book too!

01:28:45.000 And I'm like, was all of that a lie too?

01:28:48.000 Look, I gotta be honest, I just don't like any of these politicians.

01:28:51.000 But, you know, you seem to have retired with grace and dignity and remain consistent on all your positions.

01:28:56.000 Then your son is in there doing great work as well and I'm like, These are the only few politicians I actually think have ever meant it, to be honest.

01:29:07.000 Did they ever try to buy you off?

01:29:08.000 Did they ever try to silence you or stop you?

01:29:11.000 No, they always insulted me.

01:29:12.000 They never came to see me.

01:29:14.000 No, the lobbyists didn't come.

01:29:16.000 Did they come to our office?

01:29:18.000 One time and you kicked them out.

01:29:21.000 You listen to him first.

01:29:22.000 You listen to him first.

01:29:23.000 If you'd become president in 08, 2008, do you think that they would have been like, here's who you're gonna bomb next, and if you were like, no, that they would have JFK'd you?

01:29:35.000 Well, that's hard to say, but if you did more than that, if you really changed things, there'd be a revolution.

01:29:46.000 For some reason, whether they kill you or what, but anybody that supported it, it would be done.

01:29:53.000 It's not going to happen.

01:29:54.000 That's why we have to expect the collapse to come in a different way.

01:29:59.000 We can't get enough people in Congress to pass the right law to really change things.

01:30:05.000 It's good that we have there, and we have a few more now than we did before with the recent election, but it would be catastrophic if you really change it.

01:30:15.000 You can't close down the Fed.

01:30:18.000 The Fed has to close themselves down.

01:30:20.000 Yeah, you mentioned auditing the Fed at the time.

01:30:22.000 It was 2009 or 10 or 11 or something.

01:30:24.000 You were talking about auditing the Fed.

01:30:25.000 And I kept thinking, no, repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

01:30:28.000 Repeal it.

01:30:28.000 But now what you're saying is that would undercut, pull the rug out.

01:30:31.000 Yeah, well, I want to repeal it.

01:30:32.000 I've had bills in to repeal it.

01:30:34.000 It's just that I had a lot of Democrats sign on to auditing the Fed and all the Republicans.

01:30:44.000 But I wouldn't have gotten five votes to abolish the Fed.

01:30:50.000 Why won't they vote for auditing the Fed?

01:30:51.000 Are lobbyists coming at them?

01:30:51.000 It became pragmatic, but it was also to me educational because I was surprised we did

01:30:57.000 that.

01:30:58.000 Why won't they vote for auditing the Fed?

01:31:05.000 Are lobbyists coming at them?

01:31:06.000 Are their lives threatened?

01:31:08.000 Well because that money is being distributed secretly.

01:31:13.000 It's really a big privilege.

01:31:15.000 I think that, where was it I read?

01:31:19.000 I think it was $31 trillion they passed out over COVID.

01:31:22.000 But it's off the books!

01:31:24.000 I mean, they don't go through Congress, you know, to appropriate this money.

01:31:29.000 And they don't want that to be revealed.

01:31:30.000 That's why I said the thing they want to protect the most are the international transactions.

01:31:35.000 That's where they wheel and deal and keep the bank and international settlements. 0.76

01:31:40.000 That's probably do a lot of the wheeling and dealing. 1.00

01:31:42.000 And the bailouts are secret.

01:31:43.000 A lot of the money is being moved around.

01:31:45.000 No one even knows exactly where it's going, who it's going to.

01:31:48.000 I confronted Ben Bernanke about this issue.

01:31:50.000 The guy tried to steal my microphone from me because I was like, where's the money going to?

01:31:54.000 How much money are you giving people?

01:31:55.000 And this was all the way back in 2011.

01:31:57.000 But the good news is the market is more powerful than the politicians.

01:32:01.000 And that is why Bretton Woods broke down.

01:32:03.000 That's why Henry Hazlitt was right.

01:32:05.000 All through the 60s were right. 0.84

01:32:07.000 And the people said, it won't work, it won't work.

01:32:09.000 And finally it didn't work.

01:32:11.000 And that's why The same people are saying the dollar is going to get much, much weaker and it will lose its reserve credentials.

01:32:23.000 What do you think is like a cogent move forward to try and bring it into a slow landing, soft landing, as soft as we can?

01:32:34.000 You can't do that.

01:32:37.000 But, because the time has passed, the best example to know what we could have done, and should have done, is 1921.

01:32:45.000 Because there was a very serious depression in 1921.

01:32:49.000 And I guess Hoover was still in, but the Keynesianism hadn't taken over.

01:32:56.000 You didn't bail people out!

01:32:57.000 You know, it's bad debt.

01:32:59.000 Liquidate the debt and get it over with.

01:33:01.000 So they did nothing.

01:33:02.000 And after a little over a year, the GDP, I think, went down like 15%.

01:33:08.000 And then everybody, you know, had to go back to scratch.

01:33:10.000 And after that, everything was growth.

01:33:13.000 You know, the markets were growing again.

01:33:15.000 And you could have done that.

01:33:17.000 And you could do it now.

01:33:18.000 But politically, it wouldn't be acceptable.

01:33:20.000 So start businesses in the private sector?

01:33:23.000 What?

01:33:24.000 If we were going to do it like a soft landing or something, it would be like by creating productivity, but not waiting for the politicians.

01:33:31.000 Well, that's why the market is important.

01:33:34.000 I think that you could, you know, if you took all of the dumb economic things that Biden has done, especially in energy, blowing up pipelines, you know, doing all that nonsense and more regulation, If you remove that, that would be helpful.

01:33:49.000 That would increase productivity and lower prices.

01:33:52.000 But the debt is too big.

01:33:55.000 The debt is going to haunt us and people worry, rightfully so, that the debt will be liquidated and they are going to default.

01:34:06.000 But the default comes because the debt is shrinking right now because of the money is worth so little.

01:34:14.000 Yeah.

01:34:14.000 And they can't quit doing that.

01:34:16.000 You know, they even talk about, you know, raising interest rates right now each day.

01:34:22.000 If they go, if they say one word to hint that, well, interest rates are going to go up a little bit.

01:34:27.000 You know, the market's gone out a trillion dollars.

01:34:30.000 It's crazy.

01:34:31.000 All right.

01:34:31.000 It's beyond repair.

01:34:33.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at TimCast.com.

01:34:42.000 Head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member because we're gonna have an uncensored members-only show coming up at about 10.10 p.m.

01:34:50.000 Eastern Time, where we're even gonna take audience questions.

01:34:53.000 And I believe in this segment, we'll try and focus on cultural issues that are currently happening today, which I really want to ask about, especially in a medical context.

01:35:01.000 I think some of you may understand where I'm going with that, so we'll save that one for the not-so-family-friendly aftershow.

01:35:06.000 And in the meantime, let's read your Super Chats.

01:35:10.000 So we have this one from Raymond G. Stanley, Jr.

01:35:13.000 He says, Ron, sir, thanks for coming.

01:35:15.000 I literally just left my first Libertarian Party regional meeting, thanks to Decord.

01:35:20.000 These folks are legit.

01:35:21.000 Four are running for local office, others doing work.

01:35:24.000 I was quite impressed, sir.

01:35:28.000 You're about to get up.

01:35:29.000 You can go to the bathroom.

01:35:30.000 Was that a question directed at me that I didn't hear?

01:35:33.000 Someone was just saying that they, one of our audience members saying that the Libertarian Party is legit and they thank you for coming.

01:35:42.000 Oh yeah, if you go to the bathroom, go for it.

01:35:45.000 Tell me what the schedule is like.

01:35:47.000 We got about 30 minutes.

01:35:48.000 We're gonna do super chats with the audience.

01:35:50.000 Okay.

01:35:50.000 Audience questions.

01:35:51.000 I'm going.

01:35:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:35:53.000 Hop on out.

01:35:54.000 No problem.

01:35:54.000 We'll read some super chats.

01:35:57.000 Do your thing.

01:35:58.000 All right.

01:35:59.000 Chris O says, Ron Paul is the most principled, inspirational political figure of my lifetime.

01:36:05.000 Thank you for everything, Dr. Paul.

01:36:06.000 And thanks to Tim for having him on.

01:36:08.000 I think thank you to Dr. Paul and Daniel for coming.

01:36:13.000 I mean, this is a it's an honor and a privilege.

01:36:16.000 One thing I wanted to add to just just in this context, when Dr. Paul asked me about like what mattered to me is I want to stress that I was very much in the generic pro-choice camp when I was younger.

01:36:27.000 And then I heard Dr. Paul talk about life beginning at conception, explaining it, and giving his reasoning.

01:36:32.000 And that changed my view.

01:36:34.000 I wouldn't say that I became pro-life or anything like that.

01:36:37.000 But I immediately was like, interesting.

01:36:39.000 I understand now what he's saying in terms of the pro-life context.

01:36:43.000 Life beginning at conception.

01:36:45.000 He's a doctor.

01:36:46.000 He would know.

01:36:46.000 I respect that argument.

01:36:48.000 And it changed my views.

01:36:49.000 And it pulled me back closer.

01:36:51.000 I would say when I was younger, it was very much like, who cares?

01:36:54.000 Abort the baby. 0.99

01:36:54.000 Like, you know, punk rock. 0.99

01:36:56.000 Then I was kind of like, we should probably have some limitations on this thing.

01:36:59.000 And so it definitely made me, because when I was younger, I was probably far left, you know, anarcho leftist, whatever that means.

01:37:05.000 And then I got older, I became more centrist libertarian type.

01:37:07.000 And I think Ron Paul played a role in that for sure.

01:37:09.000 Well, it tells a powerful story.

01:37:11.000 When he first started, he was in residency, and he would tell it better than I would.

01:37:15.000 Just as an example that there was an abortion that survived and the baby was lying in the corner of the room and everyone just was pretending that it wasn't there as the baby gasped for air because the point was that that baby was supposed to be aborted and he didn't have a real strong view necessarily until that experience and I think it really and it was I think in the one book that he wrote about abortion it really affected him so if you're against violence that literally is an act of violence you know.

01:37:44.000 And personally, I just never liked the government.

01:37:48.000 I don't know about you guys.

01:37:49.000 I just love the government.

01:37:51.000 Everyone's calling you Daniel McBaste in the comments, by the way.

01:37:56.000 Alright, KiteTheTwinBlade says, it's happening.

01:38:00.000 It is indeed.

01:38:01.000 It is indeed happening.

01:38:02.000 Yeah, everyone's mentioning the meme.

01:38:04.000 Yeah.

01:38:06.000 Liam McCollum says, Dave Smith 2024 so Ron Paul can be the last Federal Reserve chairman ever.

01:38:11.000 Would you accept a chairmanship at the Federal Reserve if you were nominated?

01:38:17.000 Well, you know, that's about the last thing that would ever happen.

01:38:23.000 Will I accept?

01:38:24.000 Yeah, as long as they knew my rules.

01:38:28.000 My first goal would be to close shop.

01:38:32.000 Well, that's the point.

01:38:33.000 Are you familiar with Dave Smith?

01:38:35.000 Dave Smith, yeah.

01:38:36.000 You want to grab the mic?

01:38:38.000 Oh, yeah, grab the mic, too, when you're talking into the mic.

01:38:40.000 Oh, okay.

01:38:40.000 Yeah, the Super Chat was about Dave Smith.

01:38:42.000 I thought you were tired of listening to me.

01:38:44.000 Oh, no, no, never.

01:38:44.000 About Dave Smith becoming president and nominating you for the Federal Reserve Chair.

01:38:49.000 Yeah.

01:38:49.000 Do you know Dave Smith?

01:38:51.000 Yeah.

01:38:52.000 He may be the 2024 Libertarian candidate.

01:38:56.000 I'd hope so.

01:38:57.000 I don't know.

01:38:57.000 We'll see.

01:38:58.000 But someone asked, if he wins, would you accept an appointment to chair the Federal Reserve?

01:39:05.000 Oh, I would, but it wouldn't be living in the practical world.

01:39:08.000 It would be shutting it down.

01:39:10.000 Yeah.

01:39:11.000 I think we can accept that.

01:39:13.000 All right.

01:39:13.000 Grim Metal says, You woke me up in 2007, Dr. Paul.

01:39:17.000 Thank you so much.

01:39:18.000 My entire metals business that is thriving is all because of you.

01:39:21.000 Hmm.

01:39:23.000 Look at that.

01:39:25.000 All right.

01:39:27.000 What do we have here?

01:39:29.000 Frump says, as an older millennial, I voted for you, wrote you in, and adored your view on what we can be.

01:39:35.000 I appreciate Rand and his views.

01:39:36.000 He's a solid guy.

01:39:37.000 Please stay with us.

01:39:38.000 We need another 23 plus years.

01:39:40.000 Well, all right.

01:39:44.000 Cloud Roth says, Ron Paul makes me proud to be an American.

01:39:49.000 Man, it is, I think I mentioned this before, but as you were talking about, you know, you maybe say something to 10 people, but then it, you know, as the time goes on, those ideas ripple outward.

01:40:01.000 I don't know if you're aware of just how many millions or even tens of millions of people are where they are politically, economically, because of what, of the work you did and how profound that was for so many people.

01:40:13.000 No, but that might be exaggerated a little bit.

01:40:18.000 But we don't know that.

01:40:20.000 And I'm fascinated with the concept of the remnant.

01:40:25.000 And I would say that the people that are in this meeting here tonight pretty much look like they're dealing with Retaining and maintaining the beliefs in liberty, and you become a remnant.

01:40:39.000 And I've heard a little bit of disagreement, but I heard people in this room that wanted to just hear the plain truth of things.

01:40:47.000 And that's, to me, the wonderful thing.

01:40:49.000 And so you don't know.

01:40:50.000 We don't know.

01:40:52.000 Well, you might know, you have the numbers, how many people listen, but you don't know how many people they talk to the next day.

01:40:58.000 So that's what's so miraculous about it.

01:41:02.000 I think it's wonderful.

01:41:04.000 Somebody asked me one time, you know, after having been up there, How did you ever put up with it?

01:41:10.000 You know, it's so disgusting.

01:41:12.000 And I said, well, I'll tell you what, it never bothered me because, you know, obviously my goal was not to become a congressman or the chairman of the Federal Reserve.

01:41:21.000 I said, so I just, you know, I did what I thought I could do and in my own way.

01:41:26.000 But, you know, I had low expectations and so I tolerated it quite well.

01:41:32.000 Gormall says, thank you Dr. Paul for everything you've done and raising a remarkable son.

01:41:36.000 I would love to hear your opinion on national divorce.

01:41:40.000 National divorce.

01:41:42.000 This is to separate the good guys from the bad guys, huh?

01:41:46.000 Well, I don't know exactly what all the details would be.

01:41:52.000 All I want is freedom of choice.

01:41:55.000 And right now, the founders are rather astute in providing for us a way that we can move around.

01:42:03.000 And if you didn't like one state, you can move around.

01:42:06.000 But no, I'd like the unit of government always to be permitted.

01:42:13.000 And I think the most important unit of government that we should have is the individual.

01:42:18.000 Self-government is what we need.

01:42:20.000 And then the person is totally responsible for everything he or she does.

01:42:25.000 And you have to accept the consequence.

01:42:28.000 But I think the other principle in this that you have to look for is the principle of private property rights, owning property.

01:42:36.000 If you know that it's your property and they're not supposed to mess with it, and if you're not allowed to mess with your neighbor's property, then we have to accept the expansion of that, which we don't do very often in Washington, is that That if you can't do it, if you can't steal from your neighbor, you're not allowed to send the government there.

01:42:57.000 You call the congressman.

01:42:59.000 I'll get that from him.

01:43:00.000 He has too much stuff, so we'll get it.

01:43:02.000 So there's a couple principles.

01:43:06.000 Those principles aren't complex, and I think a lot of people say, Yeah, that makes sense.

01:43:11.000 The compliment I like the best is, wow, I like to listen to you.

01:43:14.000 It makes common sense.

01:43:16.000 That's good, you know.

01:43:17.000 If it is, it's not too complex in the direction we go in.

01:43:22.000 Otherwise, if you want to get the Keynesian mathematical formulas, I'll just say, well, if we do A, B, C, you can get this, and we can, you know, all that nonsense.

01:43:33.000 They go, no, that doesn't work.

01:43:35.000 That'll put you to sleep for sure.

01:43:37.000 What do we have here?

01:43:38.000 A free-thinking dog says, how do we get Libertarians and Conservatives to align today?

01:43:43.000 Together we would be unbeatable, but we need to get Libertarians back to some sanity.

01:43:49.000 I would say the opposite of that.

01:43:50.000 We need to get the other party back to some sanity and stop trying to bomb people.

01:43:54.000 I think the Bush years had tremendous damage to the Republican Party and the Conservative Party, especially with all the wars that they have started.

01:44:01.000 They had the seat at the table.

01:44:02.000 They had the Congress.

01:44:03.000 They had the Senate.

01:44:04.000 They had the Supreme Court.

01:44:06.000 Everything!

01:44:07.000 And they decided to go with pointless wars?

01:44:10.000 Why would people trust that?

01:44:11.000 They don't trust that.

01:44:12.000 And this is what caused Obama to be as powerful as it is.

01:44:15.000 This is what caused the kind of woke movement to be where it is right now.

01:44:18.000 A direct pushback against the conservatives sitting at the table and then, I would frankly say, pooping all over it.

01:44:25.000 I thought your work was an example of bridging the gap between libertarianism and the Republican Party.

01:44:30.000 Do you see, do you see, well one, I guess do you see a lot of like cohesiveness between the two or or would you like to?

01:44:37.000 Oh I would like to but I'm not sure it's going to be all of a sudden a reformation and the Republicans changing their tune because right now the thing that's fascinated me about bringing people together is the fact that the I'm disappointed that the traditional progressive Democrat that was an ally when I was in Congress we've you know the Dennis Kucinich's we'd work together and try to make the point of the stupidity of the wars in the Middle East and I got more support from Democrats because Bush was in there so it was political it was short-sighted so that that is a

01:45:17.000 You know, one thing that we could do is, you know, if the progressives are moving away, but they're acting more like hawks, you know, they're joining the Republican hawks.

01:45:30.000 But at the same time, the Republicans are improving.

01:45:33.000 Now they have a little group up there that, you know, got together with a remnant of the progressive Democrats, and they were able to persuade people that it's time we have to think about no more money to Ukraine, you know, so that's a start. The

01:45:49.000 problem there is our practical problem, Daniel, I have to deal with. Yeah, that's all good, but so

01:45:54.000 often when we find somebody, oh yeah, there's they want to do this and we're doing too much there.

01:45:59.000 What they want to do is for you to build up the hatred toward China. Oh, we'd rather fight 0.79

01:46:04.000 China. That wears me out. 1.00

01:46:06.000 Yeah, we did an episode of the Ron Paul Liberty Report.

01:46:08.000 I think it was last week about this.

01:46:10.000 There was a Politico story about how Speaker McCarthy is getting very nervous because he's got a breakaway group of Republicans who are willing to get together with progressives who are breaking away from their party.

01:46:23.000 And the reason why it's important is because there's a lot of leverage there.

01:46:27.000 McCarthy can only afford to lose four votes on anything.

01:46:30.000 So if you've got 10 people—we saw all the people that were holding up his, taking the chair—if you've got 10 or 15 people, and they will line up with three or four on the progressive side, you literally have a third party in Congress right now that has enormous stopping power.

01:46:47.000 And it's our sincere hope that they realize the power they have One of the things that they coalesced on is ending the authorization for the Iraq war.

01:46:55.000 And that's an easy one.

01:46:57.000 So start with the easy things like that and realize how much power a group of ten people can have in this kind of a close congress.

01:47:03.000 I mean, that's one of the few areas, I think, for optimism.

01:47:07.000 Jim O'Brien says, what are the pronouns on the black shirt?

01:47:11.000 Told you so.

01:47:12.000 Oh, those are good ones.

01:47:14.000 That's on my shirt saying that I identify as a conspiracy theorist.

01:47:19.000 Oh, okay.

01:47:20.000 Infernal Saxon says, could a state government audit the Fed?

01:47:25.000 State government.

01:47:26.000 Yeah.

01:47:27.000 Well, the state governments are doing good jobs.

01:47:31.000 They've gotten together.

01:47:32.000 I have visited some of their legislative bodies, and it's neat because they're taking the Constitution literally, and they're saying the only legal tender the state's allowed to use is gold and silver.

01:47:45.000 So they don't have to ask the federal government about this.

01:47:49.000 They're just And it's really pretty neat.

01:47:52.000 It's a good teaching device.

01:47:54.000 We're not going to have magic and change it, but this is the kind of thing that I think gets people's attention.

01:48:01.000 Somebody might say, I wonder why the founders put that in there?

01:48:04.000 How would we have a Federal Reserve?

01:48:06.000 Well, maybe we don't need a Federal Reserve.

01:48:09.000 But there's about six states or so that have worked on this, and I'd like to see the states really move in that direction.

01:48:15.000 So we encourage that a whole lot.

01:48:19.000 To, you know, to argue the case for the states to do something.

01:48:24.000 Right on.

01:48:25.000 Heron Gaming News says, one thing is clear.

01:48:27.000 I'm bringing marshmallows and toasting them over the dumpster fire the establishment gave us.

01:48:31.000 Luke is a statist.

01:48:33.000 How dare you call me that?

01:48:33.000 I missed you, Luke.

01:48:35.000 If there's one offensive thing you can call me, it is that.

01:48:38.000 I am highly offended.

01:48:39.000 Triggered.

01:48:41.000 Statist?

01:48:41.000 Seriously?

01:48:46.000 All right, let's see.

01:48:47.000 Winston Alexander says, Ian, AI drones to pacify the military-industrial complex? 0.51

01:48:53.000 WTF?

01:48:53.000 Why not direct the military-industrial complex into something productive like space stations or spaceships?

01:48:57.000 I'm down to do that, too.

01:48:58.000 So what I would want to do is build drone swarms and then put onboard artificial intelligence on the drone swarms, but don't give the swarms weapons.

01:49:05.000 just give them like sensor targeting things so they can swarm us point target

01:49:09.000 our weaknesses and then give us what we did wrong tell us how to get better at

01:49:13.000 why but because drone swarms is the next stage of war but and that the idea is

01:49:19.000 There's videos talking about drone swarm developments they've been working on in warfare, where they can unleash like 100,000 drones that can just, they don't need a nuke.

01:49:31.000 They just get these drones to all crash into a city in perfect synchronicity, targeting the key point.

01:49:36.000 It's crazy precision.

01:49:37.000 But I would argue, maybe we just get government contracts for assembly drones, where the drones in outer space build things.

01:49:44.000 Yeah, that'd be cool.

01:49:45.000 Yeah, you can have like a hundred trillion drones in space all working in synergy to build.

01:49:49.000 Size almost becomes irrelevant when you're building in space.

01:49:51.000 You'll be able to build planetary-sized things.

01:49:53.000 Dyson Spheres.

01:49:55.000 Just build a Dyson Sphere.

01:49:56.000 Space exploration?

01:49:57.000 Can we do a little bit of that, maybe?

01:49:58.000 Yeah, I'm down for that. 0.94

01:49:59.000 That sounds a lot better than bombing and killing people.

01:50:02.000 Yes, Starship's launching soon.

01:50:03.000 Elon Musk's Starship.

01:50:05.000 Let's get him on the show.

01:50:06.000 He's in Austin, isn't he?

01:50:08.000 Is he?

01:50:09.000 I might DM him.

01:50:10.000 Hit him up.

01:50:12.000 Tell him to come on the show.

01:50:12.000 Hit him up.

01:50:13.000 Let's talk about Twitter.

01:50:14.000 Alright, let's grab some more.

01:50:17.000 Heron Gaming News says, Luke, can anarchy save us or will the feds be benevolent rulers?

01:50:22.000 Um, I don't have a, you know, I don't have a... A globe?

01:50:28.000 You remember that?

01:50:28.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:50:30.000 I can't predict the future, but I know if people follow the principles of the non-aggression principle and voluntarianism and become personally responsible for themselves, no matter what happens, they will be ready for whatever comes and more prepared for it.

01:50:42.000 And a lot In a lot better situation than if they weren't.

01:50:45.000 So I think those two ideas that you guys represent so well and speak about for so many years are critical at this juncture where things are very crazy.

01:50:55.000 They're only going to get a lot crazier from here.

01:50:57.000 And more than ever, we need to take care of ourselves and our communities.

01:51:00.000 And I think if we go along those lines, we're going to be ready for whatever comes next.

01:51:05.000 Wow.

01:51:06.000 Hequibus says, Tim, eggs are 10 bucks for a dozen in California.

01:51:12.000 Meanwhile, at the castle, we've got like 200 eggs.

01:51:16.000 It's in- because we have- we have chickens.

01:51:17.000 We have like 30 of them.

01:51:19.000 So we get, you know, we're getting like 27 eggs per day.

01:51:21.000 Some ridiculous number.

01:51:23.000 Do you have a farm, Ron? 0.84

01:51:25.000 Not really.

01:51:26.000 I have a couple acres.

01:51:29.000 I was raised in a way a chicken farm, then a dairy, and I decided that I wouldn't raise chickens at this particular time.

01:51:38.000 I have a couple cows, but I have a nice place.

01:51:42.000 And once again, it's back to my so-called optimism that I just haven't run into a lot of ugly people.

01:51:49.000 I know they're out there and I suffer their consequences, but no, our family feels very fortunate that I've been able to practice medicine and we have a few problems and it's been rather nice.

01:52:05.000 But I'm not a farmer.

01:52:07.000 You would agree though that chickens are pretty cool.

01:52:11.000 I don't know.

01:52:11.000 I think they're sometimes pretty dirty.

01:52:15.000 Yeah, they're nasty little poopers, but I think chickens are great. 0.99

01:52:18.000 Can't beat the eggs, man.

01:52:20.000 Fresh eggs for breakfast, man.

01:52:22.000 And we had a garden, so we would pluck the cherry tomatoes, I'd grab some zucchini, and then I'd make my own breakfast right there.

01:52:29.000 You know, Barry Rothbard used to say, well, he says he believes in the division of labor, and I do too.

01:52:35.000 So you raise the chickens, and I'm going to save my silver dollars.

01:52:39.000 And Michael Coyne, so I can buy some eggs from you.

01:52:43.000 All right, let's see, what do we got?

01:52:46.000 Callum Dimmick says, you should talk about the similarities between the Tennessee legislature bringing back the senators they kicked out with the caning of Senator Summer right before the first American Civil War, i.e.

01:52:58.000 hit him again.

01:52:59.000 Well, I don't think it's the same thing.

01:53:01.000 I mean, the pre-Civil War caning was merciless brutality, which left the guy permanently disabled, depending on who you ask, I suppose.

01:53:09.000 And what we have now is a guy threw a hot coffee, was arrested for throwing hot coffee four years ago, and then was permanently banned from the Capitol, later got elected as a Democrat and brought into the Capitol, then he joined the protesters to storm the Capitol, so he got kicked out, and then got reinstated by Democrats to go back to the Capitol just recently.

01:53:28.000 So I wouldn't call it a caning.

01:53:30.000 There are similarities in that there's a division between both sides, but I don't know.

01:53:35.000 When was the last time there was an expulsion in this matter?

01:53:38.000 It's been a long time, I'm pretty sure.

01:53:39.000 Traficant. 0.99

01:53:40.000 What is that?

01:53:41.000 Probably Traficant in the U.S. 0.97

01:53:42.000 House.

01:53:43.000 James Traficant, congressman.

01:53:44.000 When was that?

01:53:46.000 I was there at the time.

01:53:48.000 2005, 2006.

01:53:48.000 Wow.

01:53:51.000 What brought that about?

01:53:51.000 His story, Congressman Trafficant's story is crazy.

01:53:56.000 Extraordinary.

01:53:57.000 Yeah, extraordinary.

01:53:58.000 It's absolutely wonderful.

01:53:59.000 If you don't know about that, man, I interviewed him.

01:54:01.000 Elevator pitch?

01:54:02.000 I interviewed him before, and I'm still shocked.

01:54:05.000 Yeah, what happened?

01:54:07.000 Do you want to take this, Daniel?

01:54:08.000 Well, you probably know the details better than I do, but it seems like he was JFK'd, too.

01:54:13.000 Yeah.

01:54:14.000 Big time.

01:54:15.000 What was he trying to do?

01:54:15.000 I remember going to the House floor for him.

01:54:19.000 Everyone voted no.

01:54:20.000 I mean, everyone voted to expel.

01:54:23.000 Lauderette voted not to expel, and you voted present because you objected to the entire process.

01:54:28.000 It was ugly. 1.00

01:54:29.000 Garbage. 1.00

01:54:30.000 It was ugly. 1.00

01:54:32.000 It's just like an emotional thing.

01:54:34.000 What were they throwing him out for?

01:54:36.000 They claimed that he had some staffers paint his boat.

01:54:40.000 But what they were really throwing him out for is because he showed that the Emperor had no clothes, that the whole system, you know, he was famous for going down to the floor and give one-minute speeches that he ended with, beam me up Scotty, you know.

01:54:53.000 He's really a deep guy.

01:54:56.000 He had contempt and disdain for all the hypocrisy in Washington.

01:55:00.000 He never sat with the Democrats.

01:55:03.000 And he passed away from an accident.

01:55:04.000 Tractor accident.

01:55:07.000 He was independent.

01:55:10.000 You can see my interview with him on We Are Change.

01:55:13.000 Maybe you'll be able to find it if you look up James Trafficant, We Are Change.

01:55:16.000 Crazy story.

01:55:17.000 Alright, Ronwell Nogales says, nice meeting you in person.

01:55:20.000 Thanks for taking a picture with me and signed my book last February.

01:55:24.000 I had a child star who I'm a huge fan of.

01:55:28.000 Gave me the confidence I need to meet you.

01:55:30.000 You're my hero and I would have voted for you for president in 2012.

01:55:33.000 That's very nice.

01:55:35.000 Yeah.

01:55:38.000 All right.

01:55:39.000 They Eddie says, in 07 when I was 17 and scared ish-less by Alex Jones's Endgame, Dr. Paul was the only politician we were told we could trust.

01:55:49.000 I supported his family only until Trump, still very grateful for Paul's.

01:55:54.000 Yeah, I love Rand, man.

01:55:55.000 You guys are so different, but it almost like freaks me out that you're related.

01:55:59.000 I love it.

01:56:00.000 Like I want to see you together talking, just like.

01:56:02.000 Yeah, I think he does a very good job.

01:56:04.000 And I'm pretty critical of myself, so sometimes I sit there and I say, he's better than I am at this stuff.

01:56:12.000 He gives a good speech.

01:56:14.000 He's very, very knowledgeable on the COVID business.

01:56:17.000 The confrontation with Fauci is something for the history books.

01:56:21.000 Yeah.

01:56:22.000 Here's a good one.

01:56:23.000 Anwar Abu Bakr says, there's a Ron Paul Revolution billboard still on the highway between Nevada and California from Dr. Paul's last presidential campaign.

01:56:32.000 Wow.

01:56:33.000 Who sees it?

01:56:34.000 When they're leaving California or going to California?

01:56:36.000 Yeah, that's a good question.

01:56:38.000 Maybe when they're leaving and then they can think about it.

01:56:41.000 Maybe they're leaving for a reason, you know?

01:56:44.000 Or maybe they should see it before they get there, to be honest.

01:56:47.000 Turn around.

01:56:48.000 All right, what do we got here?

01:56:50.000 Phil H says, Libertarians have gained a lot of ground with Republicans.

01:56:53.000 Can the same be done with Democrats, or are they too far gone?

01:56:57.000 Well, my view is that Democrats believe incorrect things too much.

01:57:02.000 There are certainly conservatives who believe incorrect things, but for the most part, when I have a conversation with somebody as it pertains to Ukraine or economics or anything, they're just like, I don't know.

01:57:13.000 What they know is what the New York Times just said last night.

01:57:16.000 And that's probably why they don't like coming on shows like this, where we will pull up all of the stories, and they'll have to confront those issues.

01:57:24.000 They don't want to do it.

01:57:26.000 So.

01:57:27.000 All right.

01:57:28.000 Let's see.

01:57:29.000 Let's grab, uh, we'll grab a couple more.

01:57:33.000 Where are we at?

01:57:35.000 Cornpop says, Graph Ian, Bud Light, Graph Ian, make the shirts Luke.

01:57:42.000 I don't know.

01:57:42.000 I don't know if that one will do well.

01:57:44.000 I don't know if Luke could make a shirt for Ian.

01:57:46.000 A Graph-ian shirt. 0.91

01:57:47.000 I think that's an Ian shirt.

01:57:48.000 My blessing, you're welcome to, but I'll do it.

01:57:51.000 We'll donate it to the Graph-ian Fund. 0.97

01:57:52.000 I don't understand the shirt that he's saying though.

01:57:54.000 Graph-ian, Bud Light Graph-ian.

01:57:57.000 I don't know.

01:57:59.000 All right, Frump says, Ron superseding Ian in the 20 throws.

01:58:02.000 Luke, stop throwing 20s.

01:58:06.000 You're playing Dungeons and Dragons?

01:58:08.000 Have you played Dungeons and Dragons, the board game?

01:58:11.000 You roll dice to do things in the game?

01:58:14.000 And if you roll a 20, that means you get a critical success?

01:58:17.000 So this guy said you got more critical success.

01:58:19.000 I'm not into those kind of games.

01:58:21.000 You're not a gamer?

01:58:23.000 I play, I go to Congress instead.

01:58:25.000 Yeah.

01:58:26.000 Play games over there.

01:58:28.000 All right.

01:58:28.000 Kite the Twinblade says, Dr. Paul, thank you for being you.

01:58:31.000 You turned me from a rabid neocon in 2007 into a right libertarian.

01:58:36.000 I found real nonviolent solutions when none were offered by the Republicans.

01:58:41.000 I completely agree.

01:58:42.000 I think that's absolutely how at least a lot of people I know felt.

01:58:48.000 It is fascinating to hear now we have Republicans come on the show, and Luke will say something like, we've been warning you about the FBI and the ATF and the CIA and the intelligence agencies for a decade, and then you'll get these prominent conservatives going, yeah, you were right the whole time, we screwed up.

01:59:04.000 And that's an amazing thing to see.

01:59:05.000 I think it's great.

01:59:05.000 Yeah, who knew destroying the Constitution was a bad idea?

01:59:08.000 Who knew destroying people's civil liberties and freedom of speech and the Fourth Amendment and on and on and on was a bad idea?

01:59:15.000 A lot of people saw it.

01:59:15.000 You warned people about 40 years ago.

01:59:17.000 There's a video of you 40 years ago warning about the FBI.

01:59:20.000 It's going viral right now all over Twitter.

01:59:23.000 Glenn Greenwald just tweeted it out.

01:59:26.000 But I've been seeing that video for a very long time.

01:59:28.000 You warning us about the FBI and you were absolutely right on the money.

01:59:32.000 And the situation we're in now is just absurd.

01:59:35.000 For sure.

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01:59:58.000 And we'll even take calls from our members.

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02:00:09.000 Dr. Paul and Daniel, do you guys want to shout anything out?

02:00:13.000 Just invite people to watch the Ron Paul Liberty Report.

02:00:15.000 We're live at Rumble, noon every Monday through Friday.

02:00:19.000 And the Ron Paul Institute is RonPaulInstitute.org.

02:00:22.000 Is that noon eastern?

02:00:24.000 That's noon eastern time, yes.

02:00:25.000 What's the Rumble channel again?

02:00:27.000 What's the URL?

02:00:28.000 RonPaulLibertyReport.

02:00:30.000 Daniel McBaste and Dr. No.

02:00:31.000 Thank you so much for coming on the show and talking about the non-aggression principle.

02:00:36.000 I really appreciate everything you guys have to do and everything you guys are doing.

02:00:39.000 So thank you so much.

02:00:40.000 If you guys want to check out my channel it is youtube.com forward slash we are change.

02:00:44.000 I do a lot of videos.

02:00:45.000 There's many years of a lot of interviews.

02:00:47.000 Interviews with Dr. Paul.

02:00:49.000 Interviews with James Traficant.

02:00:51.000 A lot of interesting people.

02:00:52.000 youtube.com forward slash we are change.

02:00:54.000 And I'm doing an in real life meetup this Thursday 3 30 p.m.

02:00:57.000 Austin You could find out about that by being a member of LukeUncensored.com.

02:01:03.000 LukeUncensored.com.

02:01:04.000 See you there.

02:01:05.000 You said LukeUnfiltered yesterday?

02:01:07.000 There's two websites now.

02:01:08.000 Oh, okay.

02:01:08.000 I'm testing them out.

02:01:09.000 I'm seeing which one works better.

02:01:10.000 LukeUnfiltered.com.

02:01:11.000 LukeUncensored.com.

02:01:12.000 Both of them work.

02:01:13.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

02:01:14.000 Ron, anything?

02:01:16.000 Thanks for coming, brother.

02:01:17.000 Anything you're thinking?

02:01:18.000 Well, I will just make a point that I make frequently is a lot of times after a speech or a meeting, people will come up and thank me for being a big help and encouragement and what they were doing.

02:01:28.000 But I have to admit that I come for selfish reasons, because when I meet people like you, who are interested in what I'm in, and you Well, you know, generally agreed with me.

02:01:39.000 That's an encouragement.

02:01:40.000 So I leave with a positive attitude and that I benefit as much as you might tell me you benefit.

02:01:48.000 So that is what I think is beneficial.

02:01:50.000 And the neat thing about all this is the whole idea of the remnant is so fascinating that I don't know how long you've been on the air and all, but you probably have influenced a lot of people and it sounds to me like Gee, I sort of agree with those guys up there.

02:02:07.000 They have a good message.

02:02:08.000 I wonder where they got that.

02:02:10.000 But it was a delight.

02:02:11.000 Thanks for having me here.

02:02:13.000 Absolutely.

02:02:13.000 All right, everybody.

02:02:15.000 Serge is also pressing the buttons.

02:02:16.000 He doesn't have a camera, though, but shout out to Serge.

02:02:18.000 Yeah, I'm still here.

02:02:19.000 All right.

02:02:19.000 We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in a few minutes.

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