On this episode of the podcast, we discuss the recent reports that Vladimir Putin and his nuclear high command are holed up in nuclear bunkers. We also hear from a former Louisville Metro Police sergeant who was on the scene of a shooting that left one of his fellow officers dead.
00:00:00.000So we got this journalist, an investigative reporter who says that based on Russian flight
00:00:15.000information from state air travel, it appears that Russia's nuclear high command, which
00:00:22.000is Vladimir Putin and two other individuals, are currently holed up in nuclear bunkers.
00:00:27.000And the general idea is that they've just now fled to these places.
00:00:31.000Around the same time, we're getting reports that Putin is pulling back troops from Kiev.
00:00:36.000Of course, ask the simple question, why would Vladimir Putin and their nuclear high command go to nuclear bunkers and then pull their troops back?
00:00:45.000Well, a lot of people immediately say, looks like they're getting ready for some kind of bomb.
00:00:48.000But the reality is there have been reports that Vladimir Putin may have already been in the bunker.
00:00:52.000We know that the two other members of the nuclear chain of command in Russia have already been missing for a couple of weeks, likely in secure locations.
00:00:59.000So I wouldn't look too much into this.
00:01:01.000In fact, the story might actually be that Putin is pulling things back in general.
00:01:06.000However, Russia did state, the spokesman for the Kremlin, that if they felt their existence was threatened, they would absolutely use nuclear weapons, which is not surprising.
00:02:29.000And I think there's a really interesting conversation here that people probably won't expect because, you know, the activist narrative is that you guys, or just police in general, are evil and single-minded.
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00:02:47.000Plus, a lot of stuff people probably don't even know about what really went down that night.
00:02:51.000There's plenty of guys on my own department that even though they went through a year of riots, didn't even know the story behind it.
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00:04:24.000Let's get started with this first segment.
00:04:28.000Ah, CNBC, with what appears to be some good news.
00:04:31.000Russia repositions troops away from Kiev, marking a shift in the war.
00:04:37.000I mean, the troops are going to be moving away from Kiev.
00:04:39.000It sounds like Vladimir Putin is gearing up to pull back, maybe even retreat, and retreat to a high—retreat his high command into nuclear bunkers.
00:04:51.000That being the case, it now kind of reframes the retreat into, is Vladimir Putin pulling his troops out of Kiev because he's going to drop bombs on Kiev?
00:05:04.000But I agree with you that it definitely changes the tone of the story to hear that he was going into a nuclear bunker rather than just pulling out.
00:05:19.000So it's, uh, I think it could be if he's in hiding, it could be because they've got inside information that maybe his own people are going to take him out because they're tired of losing family and friends in this useless war.
00:05:52.000And, you know, my issue with how all of these articles frame is, look, I think we should talk about it.
00:05:57.000I think if there's a possibility an investigative reporter is saying, hey, this may be the case, it's probably a good thing people know because while we're probably not going to see nukes dropped anywhere, you just, you know, you don't want to imagine, imagine you do get someone who's ready to fire nukes and some story happens that indicates it might happen and they don't tell you.
00:06:16.000But I'd appreciate if these articles would start by saying, it's a single investigative journalist looking at flight paths from government planes.
00:06:41.000Yeah, I wonder if, you know, we've seen all this media saying Putin's losing.
00:06:45.000They're like, he's retreating, he's losing, it's not going well.
00:06:47.000We constantly hear these stories about how his generals are dying, and I just don't know whether to believe any of it.
00:06:51.000No, I mean, so I was talking about this with Alex on The Green Room, or in The Green Room.
00:06:58.000Yesterday and people have been talking a lot about Russian disinformation We shouldn't believe anything we hear about the war that comes from the Russian government and fair enough I have no reason to trust them.
00:07:06.000But also I have reasons to actively distrust my own government and the Industrial, you know military media complex that our own country has and so we're almost in the dark Who is it?
00:07:17.000I think it was Mark Twain who said it's better to be uninformed than misinformed or something along those lines It's just every single time can I consume news media?
00:07:24.000I almost feel like I'm getting dumber Yeah.
00:07:26.000So I do want to make sure we point out we have a story from Times of Israel.
00:07:30.000Zelensky says he's willing to make concessions to achieve peace without delay, which includes a compromise on the Donbass region.
00:08:20.000I think social media has become, I mean, this is the first war we're fighting with active live social media stuff.
00:08:26.000So we're getting a totally different take and a different spin than we're used to.
00:08:31.000And so I think maybe some of the things are going to be good.
00:08:35.000Kind of like during the protests in 2020, we had the live streamers out there.
00:08:39.000And if we didn't have them, we wouldn't have really known what was going on.
00:08:42.000Because the stuff you got were mostly peaceful, you know, while the fire's burning the building behind them.
00:08:47.000Hopefully, that's going to be the same thing that happens here.
00:08:49.000We'll get some on-the-ground, legit people that are part of it that can actually give us some of the truth.
00:08:56.000Yeah, I mean, it sounds a little bit cheesy, right?
00:08:59.000Because we hear people in the media using this as a talking point all the time.
00:09:02.000But it is really important for people to be able to trust their media.
00:09:05.000Unfortunately, we're really not able to.
00:09:07.000There's just no media apparatus we can count on to reliably tell us the truth.
00:09:11.000And so they're constantly bellowing about the fact that no one trusts them.
00:09:14.000And they're constantly saying, if we really want to have a functioning society, there needs to be some common narrative people unite on and no one believes us.
00:09:21.000But then they never take responsibility for lying.
00:09:24.000It would almost be as if you were constantly cheating on your wife.
00:09:28.000And when she didn't trust you, when you told her you were just at work late, your response was, you know, a household can't function if you don't trust your spouse.
00:09:38.000We do need to be able to have people in these positions who we can trust, but we're just not able to.
00:09:42.000And I think we've gotten so cynical on media.
00:09:45.000Over the past couple years, and I've basically been cynical on media my entire life, that you lose sight of the fact that we've... It's really very sad that there aren't people we can, like, genuinely count on to give us the truth here.
00:09:55.000I don't know if there ever was truth, to be honest.
00:09:57.000Well, I would agree, and that's the thing.
00:09:59.000I would also agree that oftentimes, we have our nostalgia goggles on, right?
00:10:05.000And we look at the past and say, that's when the media was honest.
00:10:18.000But it just makes you sad that people don't have sources they can trust.
00:10:21.000And I think part of it is because of how gigantic these outlets have become.
00:10:25.000If you have more local politics being discussed by people and folks on the ground who live in the communities that they're discussing about cover the issues, I think you get more reliable information.
00:10:35.000But when you have CNN trying to report on everything that happens in the country, it's just all the information is ripe to be manipulated by them.
00:10:42.000Well, and you've also got what four major companies that control all the media outlets.
00:11:13.000One thing he said that I thought was really instructive was, He, as a local, decided that he was just going to pay attention to an issue which was near to him, and so he called the father, who was being maligned in the media, and asked him why he responded the way he did, and the father explained that his daughter was sexually assaulted.
00:11:31.000That's the kind of journalism we need, but it's no coincidence that it was a person who was a member of that community who actually got that information.
00:11:40.000It's getting to the point where I don't think I can trust media sources that were not there on the scene or aren't part of the community.
00:11:48.000And also, they have no incentive not to lie about what happened there.
00:11:53.000So we have this story, Times of Israel says, Ukraine could declare neutrality, offer security guarantees to Russia, and potentially accept a compromise in the contested area in the country's east to secure peace without delay.
00:13:41.000And that's what's fascinating is that Whether it was Trump or just this emergent phenomenon, you end up with a lot of regular Americans, populist, conservative types, just finally coming out and being like, hey, we don't want any of that.
00:13:57.000We don't want military-age males just being bombed and then you guys just pass the buck.
00:14:49.000You had North Korea doing their nuclear tests.
00:14:53.000But I think the reason Vladimir Putin didn't invade Ukraine is because Donald Trump crushed ISIS and then pulled our troops out and Russia was like, all right.
00:15:01.000And Russia went over there and got their tail kicked by them.
00:15:03.000in the Middle East. I mean, they didn't fare very well when they went over there.
00:16:14.000There's a video that, uh, this is the remarkable thing.
00:16:17.000People are like, it looks like a green screen.
00:16:20.000And then you actually see people online being like, it's not a green screen, it's just because they do a bunch of lighting, so it makes it look like the back isn't properly connected.
00:16:29.000You can see his shadow, and I'm like, the image behind him is a still image.
00:17:09.000The people who have consistently lied to us for their entire time on the public stage didn't miraculously become honest human beings because a conflict broke out on the international stage.
00:17:28.000They say material from Hunter Biden's infamous laptop was entered in the congressional record at the request of Matt Gaetz.
00:17:34.000The Florida Republican made the move during a hearing on oversight of the FBI Cyber Division after its assistant director, Brian Vordrin, Testified that he didn't have any information about the Hunter Biden laptop, which the bureau seized from a Delaware repair shop in 2019.
00:17:50.000House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler initially blocked Gates's request but relented a short time later.
00:17:55.000Nadler's change of heart came after what Gates described as consultation with majority staff.
00:18:00.000I seek unanimous consent to enter into the record of this committee content from, files from, and copies from the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:19:16.000As soon as the Cold War ended, and even during the Cold War, there was always a very tongue-in-cheek attitude that the American press and American media took towards any suspicion of Russia.
00:19:25.000But then, as soon as they decided that you should think Russia is a real threat, Millions of people started thinking Russia is a real threat, even though weeks ago they had been making fun of people for even considering the possibility that Russia was a negative actor on the world stage or that we should be frightened by them.
00:19:39.000So, I mean, if you're able to do that kind of a 180 because the media told you to, I'm not really sure what I can say to you to convince you otherwise.
00:19:47.000Well, Russia is a threat to Western dominance and global domination.
00:19:53.000Well, sure, I'm not saying that these other countries and other major players on the world stage are not adversarial to us in any way, but my point is it was considered laughable to say anything negative about Russia.
00:20:04.000Remember in 2012 when Mitt Romney said that Russia was going to be a large geopolitical foe for us, and he was laughed at by everyone in media.
00:20:13.000And then in 2016 we go, not only It's not as if they started taking this realistic approach of saying, well, Russia is a decently sized nation.
00:20:33.000I mean, yeah, like, like, you know, white supremacist, racist, homophobe, you know, it's whatever it's whatever that that's going to stick that that riles people up enough in their emotions that they don't care what the truth is.
00:21:31.000Everybody, you know, when it comes to arguing about Chris Rock and Will Smith, it's kind of just, it's relatively nonsensical.
00:21:37.000When it comes to arguing about what's going on with the war, there is a good, you know, a good point in that we need to know exactly what's going on with legitimate information to prevent catastrophe.
00:21:49.000But for the time being, you know, or I should say in this current time, people will just believe whatever they're told to believe.
00:21:56.000People on the left are like, the media can lie to me a million and one times and I will still believe whatever they say.
00:22:00.000Well, because they're not going to the media to get actual facts.
00:22:03.000They're going to the media to watch the media forward a particular narrative.
00:22:07.000And so if they get information wrong, it's actually inconsequential because they're still doing their job, which is telling me things that make me feel like I'm a good and virtuous person for supporting left-wing causes.
00:22:16.000It kind of goes back to, I mean, they've almost got the abusive relationship syndrome.
00:22:21.000Where, you know, you're going to beat me down, but then you're going to apologize, and I'll accept it, and then you're going to do it again, but you're never going to do it again, but then you do it again, but I love you, and I'm afraid nobody's going to love me if I don't, so I just keep coming back for you.
00:22:33.000I hear you, but it's worse than that because there's never an apology.
00:22:37.000Dude, I'd like flowers every once in a while, you know what I mean?
00:22:40.000I should have gotten some chocolates after Russiagate at least when the deep state tried to depose a democratically elected president.
00:23:23.000Give me more time to not do the thing that I was supposed to already have done.
00:23:26.000If any other industry operated the way the media does, just think about hiring groundskeepers to mow your lawn and they leave and send you an invoice and you walk outside and they didn't mow your lawn.
00:23:41.000You'd be like, okay, well they didn't.
00:23:42.000Or worse still, They mowed it all awfully, and then they mowed your neighbors.
00:23:47.000And you're like, okay, like, hey, you guys made a huge mistake.
00:24:18.000I think people are just not paying attention because you know what it is?
00:24:20.000Alright, we're about to go a little bit.
00:24:21.000So you mentioned abusive relationships and I want to take a little bit further on that analogy because when you are dealing with someone who is truly toxic, one of the best things you can do is just stop paying attention to them.
00:24:34.000You're probably never going to hold them accountable.
00:24:36.000You're never going to get them to admit they were wrong.
00:24:38.000You just have to remove them from your life.
00:24:40.000And I think that's what a lot of people are doing with mainstream media.
00:26:31.000Everyone in this room, anyone doing anything politically related for a career or talking about that stuff, Is completely useless and their job doesn't have a point if our audiences aren't standing up for these values in their everyday life.
00:26:44.000So one thing that's been said on this show before by you, I believe, and it's something maybe I was a little too cynical to accept at the time, but I would more or less agree with now.
00:26:53.000Is that with most people who buy into the narrative, if you were to sit down and have a half hour long conversation, even a 10 minute long conversation with them about a lot of these issues, they would come away with a different perspective.
00:27:06.000Not the people who are ideologically possessed, but just your average person who believes in this stuff.
00:27:11.000And so the solution is just for the people who are watching this show and who believe in what's being said here to be more willing to have conversations with people around them.
00:27:20.000I know a lot of people are scared to do it, but there is never going to be any significant change unless that occurs.
00:27:26.000Because we're just talking to you and it's funny because audiences will look to their preferred political commentators to talk about this stuff and what you don't realize is like we are looking at you guys to talk about this stuff.
00:28:53.000If Tim thinks, if his perception is different than 50 people, but we're worried about his perception, so we're not giving the truth, then we're hurting the other 50 people just to please the one.
00:29:21.000What you see kind of dictates what you focus on and how you live your life.
00:29:25.000But the problem we have with journalists is that they've taken that to heart, and instead of saying, I should seek other perspectives to fill out the narrative, they say, If I say it's true, because perception is reality and my perception is all that matters, so instead of doing any research and telling the truth or just like, eh, what I think goes.
00:29:44.000I think both of you made points about the most vocal people representing the movement, and yeah, that's very much a consequence of your average person who exists within any of these movements or leans towards those movements being way too afraid to say anything.
00:29:57.000And so unless you want your movement to be painted exclusively by the folks who are willing to talk, you have to stand up and say something.
00:30:03.000And that's the point I really want to stress for everyone.
00:30:05.000I know I say it pretty often on these shows, but if you guys aren't out there talking about this stuff, there's no point for us to be doing this.
00:30:13.000I want to just jump straight into this next story because this is about Brenna Taylor's mother.
00:30:41.000They were all Extreme exaggerations and manipulations by the media to the point where in the George Zimmerman incident with Trayvon Martin, they edited the audio.
00:30:56.000They've done this for basically every single major story that's resulted in Black Lives Matter riots.
00:31:02.000And then when you try and get the real story, if you're able to get it, it's like all of a sudden you go, wow.
00:31:07.000Now the interesting thing here is Republicans have a general polling advantage from RealClearPolitics about 3.4 points and with FiveThirty about 2.2 points.
00:31:17.000When Democrats have a 5 point advantage or less, they lose seats in the House.
00:31:22.000Republicans have an advantage, which is to suggest that people aren't falling for these stories anymore.
00:31:33.000You were involved in the whole incident.
00:31:35.000And the media and the activists are still lying about what happened, trying to put pressure on the government to make changes and to get certain politicians elected.
00:32:45.000So the day, when all these riots started, the first night in Louisville, There were seven people shot in the very first night of riots downtown.
00:33:30.000I mean, the people were shooting guns, they were doing illegal stuff, but they weren't causing destruction like downtown.
00:33:36.000They weren't, you know, doing the things that would require police presence to be forceful.
00:33:43.000And so our department decided that they were going to send officers down there to clear it out.
00:33:49.000They were breaking the curfew that was enacted by the mayor, which I don't agree with those either, but So when they sent him down there to enforce this curfew and make all these people leave this lot, there was some activity going on.
00:34:06.000I think there were some gunshots right down the block.
00:34:08.000And two other crews, from what I've heard, had turned down the request by the chief's office.
00:34:43.000At that time, one of the business owners that owned a barbecue shop right across the street from that gas station comes out and shoots a gun at them.
00:35:18.000Anybody who's gone to a paintball range and has ever gone to a gun range knows, come on.
00:35:22.000And you know, that guy had video in his business.
00:35:26.000Kind of like you have here, you know, cameras all over.
00:35:28.000So he had some great angles and you could see everything that happened.
00:35:31.000and our mayor would not release that until the media found out there was good video and pressured him and then he released it because everything they do is just just such he comes out and says oh we're we are very transparent transparency is the way to be which it should be you should be very transparent if you're if you're operating on the government's dime and they're paying you there should be no stone uncovered everything should be wide open If you are a cop, right now, I'm telling you, you're going to prison.
00:36:31.000They're going to get called out to a riot and they're going to be, and they're going to be given a reasonable order as, as it pertains to a violent riot of people, smashing windows and burning things down.
00:37:26.000Too bad for the civilians who wouldn't say, hey, maybe it's reasonable that we have a police force that's gonna stop people burning buildings down.
00:37:34.000If they won't stand up for the cops that are going out just trying to stop rioting, well then, you deserve what you get.
00:37:40.000And that's cops being like, look, if you don't got my back, I don't got yours, I can't.
00:37:44.000Well, there you go, that's the city you get.
00:37:46.000I think it's unbelievably horrific for a police officer to fail to do their duty, to fail to protect the people that they're supposed to protect.
00:37:52.000At the same time, if you're a citizen and you're lamenting this, ask yourself the question, if one of these police officers acted in a way which was justified to protect somebody else's livelihood and prevent their business from being burned down, and then they were placed on trial and the media was calling them a terrible racist, would you say anything?
00:38:07.000Would you say anything to the people at work who were calling that man a racist for trying to protect people?
00:38:29.000There are a lot of people in this country who care, but there's too many people, even who do, who they care about what's going on, are unwilling to speak up.
00:38:37.000You know, from personal experience I can tell you, we've reached out to a lot of people.
00:38:42.000You're willing to have me on, other people are, but there's a lot of people who still do not want to attach my name to anything.
00:38:57.000But we're supposed to go speak in Ohio in April.
00:39:01.000And they were going to use a training facility of this police department.
00:39:05.000And the police department was still charging them.
00:39:07.000They were charging them to use their facility.
00:39:09.000And once they put the flyer out and it showed my picture on it, the chief of that department said, no, you're not using our training facility.
00:40:24.000But what that means is that the cultural and moral connections of our society are gone.
00:40:28.000Granted, that happened in Canada, but just an example.
00:40:30.000If you work for a company and you won't speak up, for that same reason, neither will firefighters, neither will police, neither will politicians, nobody would.
00:40:40.000That kind of goes back to your point which you made a few minutes ago, where it's our job to protect the city, but you said you can understand why they wouldn't.
00:40:49.000I understand, but at what point do you go, okay, no matter what my sacrifice is, I'm willing to go out there because I want change?
00:40:57.000That when regular people aren't showing up to city meetings being like, look, we understand police reform can be done and there are problems people are upset about, but at the very least, stopping a riot should not be questionable.
00:42:57.000Even trained people, that's tough in that quick of a second to distinguish.
00:43:01.000But somebody that's not trained coming out with that adrenaline dump and the fear, I mean, your rationale just goes away a little bit.
00:43:09.000Well, I mean, also you have to consider if you're in your house and you're with your family and there are people outside of your house who, as you mentioned, had burned down a house previously.
00:43:18.000Again, you should never ever point a gun at people if you're not willing to use it, but for people to know that you have some ability to protect yourself is obviously a good thing for you and your family and your security.
00:43:30.000If you're going to burn my house down, I'm going to use it.
00:43:32.000Yeah, well, if someone tries to burn your house down, they should know that it's on the table.
00:43:36.000Like, well, if you try to burn my house down and kill my family, I will shoot you to prevent that from occurring.
00:43:40.000You have the right to defend yourself from this violence and all this stuff.
00:44:01.000Obviously, some things were done wrong or improperly, but the point is the media narratives coming out of all of these stories were untrue to some degree.
00:44:09.000Yeah, and this is part of why I really want to dig into this, is because as someone on the right and someone who's very skeptical of BLM and their narratives, part of what sort of convinced me on the Breonna Taylor case, and again this is coming from someone who didn't pay as close attention to it as they did some of the other ones, Justice for Breonna Taylor.
00:46:08.000So the only reason it was written as a no-knock is because Jamarcus Glover's history, he had five, I believe it was five, felony pending cases for guns and drugs.
00:46:20.000And these were active cases, not including the ones he had already been charged with and pled guilty to previously for Mississippi and Louisville.
00:46:27.000And so once they realized they had a ping on his phone and a tracker on his car, they knew he would not be on Springfield.
00:46:35.000So they said, we're not doing that one as a no-knock because it didn't justify being a no-knock.
00:47:34.000Once the door opened I could see from right to left in the living room and I was on the left of the doorjamb and Mike, the guy who did the rain, was on the right because you never stand in the fatal funnel in case somebody shoots through the door.
00:47:45.000So once the door came over I scanned to the right to left everybody at this point yelling police search warrant, police search warrant.
00:47:51.000When I turned the corner I had to step right in the doorway just to see down this hall and as soon as I did there was an ambient light coming out from the TV down the hall.
00:48:19.000And so as soon as my eyes got to Kenneth, I never even got all the way to Brianna, even though they were like, it was basically one person, but I never got to her face.
00:48:27.000As soon as I got to where Kenneth was, I could see the gun because the flashlight.
00:48:30.000All I saw was the metal tip of the gun and my brain was like, oh, and boom, it was over.
00:48:56.000I got offline is what it's called so boom boom boom boom real quick four shots got behind the door frame came around shot two more at that time I felt my leg realized there was a ton of blood and I've seen you know countless gunshot victims over 21 years and a normal leg shot that doesn't hit an artery is it doesn't bleed much I mean you might have a trickle of blood down your leg that's it well this one as soon as I put my hand on my thigh I could feel just a glob and I was like oh man and I announced at the door.
00:49:56.000And they finally got one, got it on, and got the bleeding stopped.
00:50:00.000But at that time, people say, well, why was there so many shots fired?
00:50:06.00012 seconds in the dark the book the title comes from the time that door came open until it was silent from no gunshots the chaos stopped and that was about 10 to 12 seconds from what we've tried to reenact it and see and so much happened so much chaos so many things go through your mind in that 12 seconds That it's just amazing how much damage can be done in that small amount of time and how much aftermath damage, the city, the country, the nation, from 12 seconds.
00:50:47.000So I'll try to give you a visual of it.
00:50:49.000If you're looking at an apartment complex and they have the inside where the stairs go up to the top, you've got that little foyer area which is maybe, I don't know, 12 feet deep and 10 feet wide.
00:51:03.000And so I was all the way on the inside, so I hobbled out of there, then a sidewalk, a curb, and then the length of a car.
00:51:10.000So I went down between the cars, butt scooted to the edge of the cars, and that's when my lieutenant grabbed my vest and pulled me out and got to work.
00:51:17.000But the thing about Kenneth Walker, you know, he keeps saying he didn't know it was the police.
00:51:22.000First they said nobody knocked and announced.
00:51:24.000Then he comes back later and goes, yeah, we heard him knocking.
00:51:27.000And I thought it was her ex-boyfriend is what he said.
00:51:31.000So, if you thought, but then he said he thought somebody was doing a home invasion.
00:51:35.000If you thought that, why would you have your girlfriend, they got up, got dressed, he retrieved a gun, why would you tell your girlfriend, come in the hall with me?
00:51:43.000I'd imagine if he thought it was her boyfriend.
00:51:47.000Like, they genuinely thought it was... But if you're that scared for your life that you're willing to shoot, wouldn't you have her call 9-1-1?
00:51:55.000I mean, you know, it's a tough question about whether or not somebody wants to call the police to a situation that's about to get hot, whether they're even thinking about it, how someone reacts.
00:52:04.000I mean, you know, you're talking about 12 seconds.
00:52:10.000I can't assume these people would react the same way I would.
00:52:14.000I can't assume they trust cops, you know, to come and resolve the problem.
00:52:17.000But more importantly, I mean, it's even fair to say They're not going to call the cops because they might be involved in illicit dealings or something.
00:53:42.000It's hard to say because he's lied so many times we don't know the truth.
00:53:45.000There's the simple general circumstance, nuance excluded, that I've mentioned in the past.
00:53:52.000That if you're a law-abiding citizen, armed legally, and someone kicks your door in and you don't know it's the police, you have a right to defend yourself from a perceived home invasion.
00:54:01.000There have been many, you know, stories I've seen, read about, or a couple at least, where plainclothes cops, you know, are serving a no-knock warrant or something and then they get shot and the person ends up, you know, going to prison or whatever and I'm like, I think that's horrible, yeah.
00:54:14.000But when you say plainclothes, let me correct this, because this was a big sticking point of ours, too, because we were in what's called plainclothes.
00:54:20.000However, we had tactical vests on that said police across the front, we had our badges on, you know, seven white dudes going to a black guy's house.
00:54:28.000It's just not the norm that's going to go rob a drug dealer.
00:54:35.000Let's move forward with the story a little bit and talk about the lies.
00:54:40.000So, the big narrative that comes out is that Branna Taylor was sleeping in her bed, and you guys just basically shot into the house willy-nilly, killing her while she slept.
00:54:48.000Yeah, the big thing was, we came in in the middle of the night, didn't knock, didn't announce, and killed her in her sleep.
00:54:54.000So, she was sleeping before we got there.
00:54:57.000But Bing Crump's the one that kept pushing this.
00:55:25.000So down on Elliott, which is where Glover was at, where SWAT did the no-knocks, for years they had been buying up these properties.
00:55:33.000What they would do is they would go in and they would condemn them, buy them from the homeowners for a buck apiece.
00:55:37.000And so the city had taken the majority of that block.
00:55:41.000In 2000, I believe it was 18, they had the University of Kentucky's engineering department, or architectural department, draw up plans for this new vitalized area.
00:55:52.000And it looked nice, and you do want areas like that to be revitalized, but you've got to do it the right way.
00:55:57.000You can't just go in and bully people out of their houses and basically steal it as the government.
00:56:02.000So what they did was they sent a map out through their email and it had the houses they already had marked off and it showed the houses they needed to still get.
00:56:13.000So in January they started this new unit up called PBI, Place Based Investigations.
00:56:41.000For instance, and this is off topic of this, but this is just my little rant on this kind of stuff.
00:56:46.000Because when you keep these people entrapped like this and enslaved with all the government assistance and their inability to get out, then it causes these problems to compound.
00:56:55.000And these guys are looking for ways out by selling drugs or robbing people or doing whatever they have to do to survive.
00:57:00.000I mean, it does become survival of the fittest in some of these areas.
00:57:02.000If you go in these areas at night, it's like a third world country.
00:57:07.000And that's the problem with most of the citizens.
00:57:09.000They don't live in those areas, so they don't know what it's like when you go after dark and there's gunshots and there's fights and there's, I mean, it's just, you go, oh my goodness, this wasn't like this two hours ago.
00:57:20.000You know, when the sun was up, it's just different.
00:57:22.000But I think they could go in and say you're on Section 8 or assistance.
00:57:27.000Instead of just constantly giving you money, why don't they or I mean these women get trapped.
00:57:32.000Okay, here's your assistance, but if you make X amount of money, we're taking that assistance away.
00:57:37.000Why don't you let them succeed in their careers?
00:57:40.000for five years and then slowly taper off the assistance while they're achieving this so they can get out of this environment.
00:57:46.000I mean, then in the end, the government saving money because you're not keeping these people on your payroll for their entire life and you're helping the community by getting them out and getting them established.
00:57:56.000And then 15, 20 years from now, when they're having kids and their kids are having kids, you've got a totally different.
00:58:01.000It's like turning the pond over every year, you know, and you get you get new stuff.
00:58:06.000But on this case, the gentrification, he was They came in and a guy from the mayor's office came in every single week and met with this unit and all the bosses.
00:58:16.000All the assistant chiefs would come in and they would come in.
00:58:19.000They would talk about what they needed to do to secure the rest of this.
00:58:43.000He knew this was a guy from his office conducting these meetings.
00:58:46.000A woman that he ended up having an affair with, allegedly, Was the project manager for this thing.
00:58:53.000So there's a lot of things that are going on.
00:58:56.000This sounds like what actually happened with the story is dirtier and bigger than people realize.
00:59:01.000I mean, when you mentioned that, I'm like, this sounds like there's probably real estate developers involved to go to the city and say, we want to turn a profit.
00:59:08.000So he says, we're going to clean up this neighborhood.
00:59:27.000But the same developer got all those bids, all those contracts, and he was the one that was going to get these.
00:59:32.000So there's a lot of under the table deals going on.
00:59:35.000And unfortunately, the police are always used as the pawns, like we were talking about earlier with the with the vaccine stuff mandates enforcing that.
01:00:07.000No, I stayed alert conscious the whole time and I've told people and I've told people because I went around talk to some people about critical incidents and you're not required by law to give a statement right away because in critical incidents a lot of people if you wait a few days some things you start remembering stuff that you've you know for your own protection you blocked out.
01:00:29.000But for some reason when I woke up it was like it was burned into my brain and I say I wish I would have at least if I didn't give my official statement I wish I would have recorded it that day because it hadn't changed one bit.
01:00:40.000I mean everything I said then I said now the only things I forgot I forgot I had put a ball cap on that night because I got rained on and I'm real conscious about my hair so I threw a hat on because it was all messed up.
01:00:51.000So I forgot about that but other than that it was like it burned in me.
01:00:56.000So, but I waited 12 days to give a statement because I was in the hospital then recovering on pain meds and all that.
01:01:02.000And so that became an issue because they were like, oh, it's a cover-up.
01:01:05.000Why do you wait so long to give a statement?
01:01:51.000And I was like, man, because every cop's biggest fear is, or at least mine, I can't speak for everybody, my biggest fear in this career has always been, I don't want to accidentally shoot or kill the wrong person.
01:02:02.000I mean that's just a thought that you're constantly playing because there's been other times I could have been involved in shootings where people pulled guns or I've been shot at another warrant and didn't return fire because I couldn't see through what I was shooting at and because the fear is always I only want to do the right thing.
01:02:21.000I don't want to overstep these boundaries and in this position take somebody's life because it's a pretty heavy burden.
01:02:28.000And when that happened, I was like, oh my goodness.
01:02:31.000Because after Ferguson, every cop shooting that comes out now, we go, were they black or white?
01:02:37.000You know, not was it a good shoot or bad shoot, which should be all that matters.
01:02:41.000Color should not play any relevance to it, but it does.
01:02:44.000So ever since Michael Brown, that's the question, were they black or white?
01:02:47.000Well, I knew Brown was black because I'd seen her picture prior to this.
01:02:51.000And so I was like, my goodness, you know, this isn't going to be good.
01:03:31.000So she called him and said, hey can you help us on this one?
01:03:34.000So he came into town and then things had already been, there had already been lies or misconceptions and part of that was the police department's fault because they didn't share any information with Breonna Taylor's family either.
01:04:34.000When I hear the story about you coming to the door and you knock between 45 seconds and a minute, I'm wondering if you have any thoughts in hindsight or if there's something else that could be done to avoid this kind of stuff.
01:04:44.000Probably the last two years so I ran our major case unit before I went to I had just transitioned to the the parcel interdiction unit Because I think I was thinking man.
01:04:55.000I probably got four years left before I'm gonna retire I wanted to kind of bring slow things down.
01:05:00.000I'd already already made entry in over 2,000 search warrants and doors and And I thought to myself, I thought the luck's going to run out.
01:05:08.000You know, it's just, it's a numbers thing.
01:05:13.000So let's go ahead and start, start tapering this career off, slowing down because I've been going a hundred miles an hour for probably 15 of my 20 years, uh, with search warrants and drugs and all that.
01:05:24.000And, uh, so I wanted to, I wanted to transition and, The last two years I had constantly thought about two things that bothered me.
01:05:34.000Number one, eventually something's going to happen, but the main thing was As I matured as a person and as a dad and all that, once we would go through these doors, you would have three, four, five, six year old kids just terrified.
01:05:50.000You know, all of a sudden you've got eight, 10 cops coming in with guns, screaming, putting people on the ground.
01:06:24.000So we had done that probably in 80% of the cases the last two years I was up there.
01:06:29.000This wasn't my call, we were helping out, so we did what they asked us to do.
01:06:34.000If I could do it different, if none of the dynamics changed, because people go, why did you have to go there at 1230 at night if she wasn't a threat, if she wasn't the main target?
01:06:45.000She was one of the targets, but she wasn't the main target.
01:06:48.000And I try to explain to people because word gets out so quick when you do a warrant.
01:06:53.000I mean, it's even before the internet, we used to call it, I'm probably gonna get in
01:06:56.000trouble for this, but I'm gonna say it.
01:06:58.000We used to call it the ghetto net because it was like, and it doesn't
01:08:06.000I don't think physically she was taking selling dope, but she was part of the organization in a peripheral way, bonded them out of jail, letting them use her address for stuff, um, holding money.
01:08:20.000And people always go, I hate this phrase.
01:08:23.000Oh, you think you're judge, jury and executioner.
01:08:24.000And I'm going, no, I was just trying to save my life.
01:08:27.000And this wasn't a payment for the crime.
01:08:30.000You know, this wasn't, that's not the intent here.
01:08:33.000So that, that aggravates me when people say that.
01:08:36.000I worry that people don't understand there may not be solutions to these things.
01:08:41.000So, you know, you look, you've got someone who's selling illegal drugs, very dangerous ones.
01:08:46.000I mean, what was suspected of fentanyl?
01:08:49.000We believe fentanyl, we know meth, but yeah, fentanyl, he had the pills.
01:08:55.000So, you know, you can come out and make an argument about the legalization of drugs, but when you start getting into areas about fentanyl, you start getting harder questions.
01:09:03.000There are some libertarians who are outright like, no, no, no, people can take whatever they want, whatever they want.
01:09:06.000And I'm like, you know, I get that, I get that.
01:09:08.000But the question is, even still, even then, there's still got to be some restrictions on how much or to children.
01:09:15.000I mean, you've got to prevent these things.
01:09:16.000So ultimately what ends up happening is we've got a big society.
01:09:20.000You've got people on the left, people on the right, libertarians, authoritarians, and everyone's got a different view, which means ultimately there's a compromise.
01:09:25.000The compromise we have right now, whether people like it or not, is that if somebody is illegally selling very serious drugs, we're gonna stop them.
01:09:31.000I think most people, the overwhelming majority of people, are gonna be like, yeah, I don't want someone selling fentanyl in my area, because you don't know who he's selling to, and it's an extremely dangerous drug.
01:09:40.000You go to local people and say someone's selling, you know, marijuana or something like that, and they're gonna roll their eyes and be like, is this a priority right now?
01:09:48.000And if that's the case, and there are parents who want their neighborhoods cleaned up, and they don't want these drugs around, well then someone's got to stop it.
01:09:55.000But that means you're going to have to have police going and serving warrants, and what people need to understand, like you said, simultaneously all at the same time, and relatively late for strategic reasons, and also probably for safety reasons, for you've got less people who are out and about and things like that.
01:10:09.000Then you have to contend with the fact that people are allowed to defend themselves in their homes.
01:10:32.000Some people, you know, these activists especially, think there's something that can be done or has to be done.
01:10:38.000And maybe, I'm not saying we don't investigate and try and figure out ways to solve these problems, but man, some people gotta realize that There may always be this cause and effect that exists within this system, at least as we've defined it right now.
01:10:52.000If people have a right to keep and bear arms in their homes to defend themselves, and we expect police to shut down people selling drugs, very serious ones, you'll get a situation like this.
01:11:02.000And people will die, and there can be, you know, I think one of the officers, he fired rounds that went into other apartments or something like that.
01:11:09.000Yeah, so the walls were co-joined, the kitchen walls.
01:11:13.000and that was one of the that was one of the mistakes in this thing not him shooting because he thought we were getting executed at that doorway you had metal and concrete and the rapid shots and he thought oh man he knew I'd gone down he thought dude they're getting killed at the door I got to do something yeah but the problem is we weren't provided a map of the layout of how that other apartment was butted up Yeah.
01:11:36.000And from the outside looking at it, it doesn't look like it.
01:11:38.000It looks like they're separate, you know, things.
01:12:11.000It was a fault of sometimes people, you know, do bad things.
01:12:15.000And that's the challenge I see with this.
01:12:16.000I certainly think there's ways to reform and there needs to be, at least in our criminal justice system, very serious reforms.
01:12:25.000But my point is, if people are unwilling to confront the system in any meaningful way, and I mean like the rioters are not confronting in any meaningful way, the system doesn't change.
01:12:34.000In fact, the rioters are probably only making it worse, because now you're going to get more regular people saying, more weapons for the cops, just shut it all down.
01:12:41.000They're going to say, get tougher, get more aggressive.
01:12:43.000Then you're going to get activists who are like, my friend was beaten by the cops.
01:12:46.000Well, it's because the community is demanding, you know, these, these, these things that shut down.
01:12:50.000You get people calling the mayor's office.
01:12:51.000The mayor calls the, you know, goes, gets the cops on the radio and says, I don't care what you do.
01:12:55.000Just shut down the protest, shut down the riots.
01:13:01.000The issue I take with a lot of this is, These people who live in these cities.
01:13:06.000They're the ones who are voting in these Democratic politicians who don't care about them, demanding of them police action on crime.
01:13:14.000Then, when action on crime results in some kind of accident or a brutal event, it's these same people who are now complaining about that event out marching in the streets.
01:13:27.000It's one of the reasons I don't want to live in these cities anymore.
01:13:29.000Because it seems like these people don't have a logical process in their mind as to why these things are happening.
01:13:34.000They just say, I don't understand why there's got to be crime.
01:13:37.000And I also don't understand why, you know, cops are so mean.
01:13:40.000And I don't understand why people are getting beaten.
01:13:41.000And it's like, because people are shooting each other and because you want the shooting to stop.
01:13:46.000So the cops go out and the cops are scared of getting shot.
01:13:48.000And then some cops get shot and then cops shoot back.
01:13:51.000And then you complain that the cops shot back.
01:13:52.000I'm like, I don't know what you want, man.
01:13:53.000Well, that's like the majority of our loudest mouth protesters.
01:13:57.000And I'm not talking about somebody really wanting change, walking with the sign, doing it the right way.
01:14:02.000I'm talking about the guys that were jumping on cars.
01:14:04.000taunting police constantly in people's face I mean if there was a cheerleading competition of little girls in downtown Louisville during this it was near the it was a little bit further in so I think they thought it was safe enough but it wasn't and these guys were getting these parents and these kids face and saying some or rape your kids I mean all kinds of crazy stuff And then they want to say the police are the problem.
01:14:32.000And all these guys who are out here for reform and stuff that were doing this all have had huge criminal records.
01:14:39.000There's like three of them that have been killed since the riot started that were the major drivers behind this stuff.
01:14:44.000Two of them shot in the head and, no, all three of them were shot in the head.
01:14:47.000One was in a carjacking, so that may have been accidental, but the other two were targeted hits.
01:14:52.000And the funny thing is the rumor in the city was all the people who disagreed with the police were going, oh, the police are out here killing all the protesters.
01:15:38.000So, they've got their body cameras on and car cameras, but ever since our case, before Breonna Taylor, when our city investigated the thing, they would release body cam footage within 24 hours.
01:15:52.000But in our case, they said since there was no body cam, they were like, well, we can't talk about the case.
01:15:56.000And I said, well, what's the difference in releasing body cam that shows everything or disputing the lies?
01:16:02.000Well, they didn't have an answer for it, naturally.
01:16:04.000But because since then the state police took over investigating because they were like, the protesters, that was one of their demands.
01:16:30.000So it's just, it doesn't matter what you do.
01:16:32.000It's going to be, like we said earlier, there's that fringe on both sides that are just crazy, on the right and the left, that no matter what you do, it's not going to be right.
01:16:41.000I always try to clarify in that, that it's true, but it seems to be the exception for the right and the rule for the left.
01:16:50.000The conservative media apparatus tends to get stories correct.
01:16:55.000The liberal establishment media apparatus tends to get stories wrong.
01:16:59.000And it's probably because these are big corporate outlets that are driven by profit, whereas conservative outlets tend to be driven by passion ideology or ideology.
01:17:08.000I am not saying that one side is right or wrong, you know, because a lot of people hear that.
01:17:25.000So they tend to be Trying to follow the facts.
01:17:29.000But with a conservative perspective, with conservative commentary and opinion, the establishment's just like, put whatever gets us the clicks, man.
01:17:34.000Well, truth be told, there's a lot of ideology behind it as well, with trying to get Democrats elected.
01:17:39.000But let me talk to you about the issue I've had with the cops.
01:17:42.000You know, my concerns and discontent is, you know, COVID.
01:17:46.000After the George Floyd riots, you know, I was very much like, if there's one thing I think any person can agree on that police should be doing is stopping rioting.
01:17:56.000Stopping direct crime against individuals, violent crime and things like that.
01:18:00.000You want to argue about drugs being legal, all the libertarian stuff.
01:18:03.000It's like, okay, okay, we'll have the debate about that.
01:18:05.000But we all agree, like, if people are running around burning down buildings, we would appreciate a police force to be like, hey, stop doing that.
01:18:12.000The problem is, and there's reasons behind this, but for one, we saw in New York cops were standing down.
01:18:18.000We saw in many of these circumstances cops standing down.
01:18:23.000It's too dangerous and they have no support from the community.
01:18:25.000So I'm not going to, you know, go and cheer on the people who live in New York City for voting for and supporting the problems they're causing themselves.
01:18:32.000But when I saw the police, even local sheriffs, going to cafe owners and salon owners and arresting them or fining them or shutting down their businesses over COVID, I was like, nah, you lost me.
01:18:44.000You know, I can come out all day and say that the regular working class cop You know, is not a racist.
01:19:46.000Man, it's tough because I don't want to bash the cops, but you can look at my Twitter feed from months ago when this was happening, and I said the same thing.
01:20:04.000But I also think there's got to be some responsibility on the other side, too, for the people that want to make a point.
01:20:10.000Like when you go into a restaurant that's private and they go, Hey, I've got to, I've got to abide by this or the police will come in and find me if I don't.
01:23:11.000If when you're skateboarding in the streets, meaning you're going to corporate buildings or you're at loading docks behind, you know, warehouses, you can skate.
01:23:18.000And as soon as you see a security guard, you leave.
01:24:32.000Now what they've done is they've subdivided the good cop part because they're using them to enforce laws on people that support the cops but now the cops have to stand up to those people and now they're mad at the cops so now the left wins again because they've broken us even more and we're weaker.
01:24:49.000They had 27 police officers defending what was an illegal painting in the street.
01:24:54.000Bill de Blasio seized taxpayer funds illegally to paint Black Lives Matter in front of Trump's building, and 27 cops with smiles on their faces guarded that illegal act.
01:25:07.000Now look, I understand these are cops who live in New York City, so they're probably Democrats.
01:25:12.000But surprising to me, it's like, how could you live in a city where the people who vote for the politicians, who appoint the commissioner or the chief of police, and then hire these other cops?
01:25:22.000You're the villain in this whole story to everyone.
01:25:26.000The cops defending the Black Lives Matter mural are villains to the left already, and for defending the illegal actions of the mayor, they're villains to the right.
01:25:35.000It takes a special kind of resolve to decide that you want to be hated by everybody.
01:25:39.000But truth be told, it's not always the wrong choice.
01:25:41.000Sometimes being hated by everybody is the right thing to do.
01:27:58.000They use that to once again manipulate those they've already locked into indentured servitude with ridiculous, we'll forgive your student loans, vote for us.
01:29:08.000You know, the more like establishment, not so much establishment, but a lot of these conservatives say like, Yeah, those are your responsibility.
01:29:16.000You took out the loans, you signed the contract, and I'm like, that's true.
01:29:26.000Yeah, now we're getting to the point where the point of school loans and the reason you can't be declaring bankruptcy, in my opinion, or what I thought, was that we're going to help kickstart your life to get you a good skill set, good career.
01:29:37.000crippling them so they can't have families and buy houses is just bad for everybody.
01:29:41.000Instead the government turn into the mafia.
01:29:45.000Yeah, well and of course these loans are subsidized by the government.
01:29:48.000The entire idea is they're going to guarantee the student loans and that's only resulted
01:29:51.000in colleges raising tuition costs and now you have instances where someone will borrow
01:29:54.000twenty thousand, they'll end up paying back forty.
01:29:57.000You just have to ask the question, is it really a productive use of economic resources to have entire groups of people whose career is to live off of the interest of loans that were lent out prior that have already been more than paid back?
01:30:14.000Is that really the best use of human willpower and thought and labor for someone to just be in a position where they're living off of interest?
01:30:23.000We're wondering why it is that a police officer is going to arrest someone who owns a salon, and that's why.
01:30:29.000And if you are an authoritarian in government, the last thing you want is for police officers, especially, to say, men of good conscience, do not follow unjust orders.
01:30:41.000But when they say, we'll take your kids, we'll take your house, and you'll be on the street, then you'll see how quickly people are willing to bend over backwards.
01:30:49.000Yeah, well, and also, I mean, it makes sense, again, given the way inflation works, to charge some level of interest on a loan, but, you know, once you're paying back significantly, significantly more than you took out, I think it's pretty criminal.
01:31:03.000And also, you know, when you look at real estate, yeah, I mean, a lot of people are in debt because they're paying off a mortgage, but they're building equity.
01:31:10.000You look at these people who have way overpaid for these degrees that are really useless, And for these banks to be getting rich off of this government policy is just a redistribution of wealth from taxpayers and from these young people who took loans out to the big banks.
01:31:25.000I just don't see how conservatives could consider that to be acceptable.
01:31:29.000It's big government intervening on behalf of business and on behalf of the banks to protect their profits or give them more.
01:31:38.000I think we need a very small federal government.
01:31:41.000And it's, they're trying to control everything.
01:31:44.000But I do think there's something, the tides have turned.
01:31:46.000I do think that freedom, honesty, and integrity, I think that's winning.
01:31:54.000A lot of these moral values, they're probably viewed as conservative because, I don't know if you've ever looked at Jonathan Haidt's moral foundations research?
01:32:25.000Like, seriously, libertarians, like, they initially had five moral foundations, then realized something was missing because some people had nothing.
01:33:23.000Where do you draw the line and go, okay, this is it, no more?
01:33:27.000Well, that's a whole other conversation, right?
01:33:29.000But the point I'm bringing up with the Moral Foundations is that a lot of the things that we want to be winning are more typical of conservatives like loyalty and purity is another moral foundation purity meaning like you don't want children being abused or exposed but this is not a moral foundation that exists among the left for the most part so it's typically conservative but my point was I think these moral foundations are starting to win and I think there's a lot to do with the internet with podcasts the ability of people to form communities online
01:34:08.000But what needs to happen more of, which is happening, is people standing up, speaking up, and just standing firm and saying, you know, I'm not going to do something that is a violation of these foundations.
01:34:18.000Because what I will tell you is, if the moral foundations, the six that are winning, indicate that conservatives tend to be winning, and conservative isn't necessarily the right answer because libertarian, post-liberal, conservative, but it just means that ideas like loyalty are winning.
01:34:35.000With that not being on the left, you can understand why the left is angry about it, and why the left would force or convince a conservative or libertarian to abandon a moral foundation for personal gain.
01:34:47.000So if you're a conservative and you have all of the moral foundations, and loyalty is something that's important to you, and then you see something that is an egregious violation of, say, loyalty to the country, Um, that doesn't mean blind loyalty.
01:35:00.000It means, like, we're gonna stand by and support, you know, our troops, we're gonna stand by and support our law enforcement who are genuinely trying.
01:35:14.000When we say, with the boot on your neck, you're not allowed to sell coffee, we want you to abandon your moral foundations and do what we want, because we have none.
01:35:24.000And because of the way they've put the boot down, you've got cops who are like, yes, sir, whatever you say.
01:35:31.000But if people just assert themselves, well, so I'll, without repeating myself, the point is, I think the moral foundations typically associated with the right are winning.
01:35:39.000And that means, given a long enough period of time, things are going to genuinely improve.
01:38:15.000There are ways to sort of give away money, but what I meant was literally give away money.
01:38:22.000Obviously, you can try and bypass and seek out loopholes.
01:38:25.000What I mean is you would think that a human being could walk up to another person and be like, I just wanted to give you money, you know, and make your life better.
01:38:54.000I think, you know, we were talking to Jeremy Boring of Daily Wire, co-CEO, and we were talking about how You know, when you first come into money, you all of a sudden see this maze of what the government has set up as to how you can operate, what you can or can't do.
01:39:08.000When you start a company, people really don't get it.
01:39:11.000They're like, why don't you hire me to do this?
01:39:18.000Imagine telling the IRS, yeah, yeah, we hired a guy who doesn't do anything, we just pay him a lot of money, they're gonna be like, great, you're trying to bypass laws and taxes, so we're gonna come after you and fine you.
01:39:27.000Like, every employee has to have a quantifiable job with a title, with a market rate salary slightly above or below, otherwise you get investigated or fined, and all of that stuff has to be followed to the T. I wish it was as simple as to just be like, you can do whatever you want, but mm-mm, we got enough regulations, man.
01:41:49.000Obviously, we'll still put our stuff on YouTube, like Inverted World will go up there, Pop Culture Crisis.
01:41:53.000Yeah, but do you think Rumble will ever get up to be able to pay you like YouTube does?
01:42:00.000Well, that's the problem with a lot of people.
01:42:01.000It's kind of like the thing we were talking about earlier with the cops.
01:42:04.000You know, people think, well, YouTube's censoring these people and I'm ticked off at YouTube, but I can't leave because that's my financial source.
01:42:11.000So YouTube pays well, but I will say the real benefit from YouTube is marketing.
01:42:36.000You know, Crowder got booted out of the partner program, but he was like, we're good, we're gonna keep doing our thing like normal, and then eventually he got let back in.
01:42:49.000Now that all of these companies are launching their own platforms, they're taking their content off of YouTube and they're putting it on their own shows, YouTube's gonna be left holding an empty bag.
01:42:57.000And YouTube will have no choice but to try and do YouTube Originals, which failed because it just doesn't work.
01:43:03.000YouTube is not a streaming service the way they want it to be.
01:43:06.000So the more they spit in our faces, the...
01:43:11.000I gotta be honest, you've got a bunch of political commentators, you've got a bunch of big YouTubers, and YouTube should be doing everything to kiss their asses.
01:43:19.000Because CNN Plus launched today, and that means their authoritative news source, I guarantee you the president of CNN or whatever is probably like, how do we get our views off of YouTube and onto our platform?
01:43:39.000Then it gets uploaded and we use YouTube's infrastructure because it actually does save us a lot of money.
01:43:43.000For CNN, who's already backed and worth, you know, hundreds of millions or whatever dollars and has all this access, they don't need YouTube's infrastructure and they're going to pull out and then YouTube's going to be sitting there saying, who's our news source?
01:43:54.000People are going to go there and search CNN.
01:44:33.000And the next songs in our series that follow this universe about a country in tumult and the themes and ideas around civil war, revolution, and international conflict and crisis.
01:44:44.000So, uh, those will come out soon, but you can check that out.
01:45:21.000Yeah, I think one of the ideas of Will of the People, for those that have seen it and the themes around it, isn't that everyone thinks they're right.
01:45:28.000It's kind of like what I was saying, that sometimes there are no solutions.
01:45:31.000That maybe it is just the nature of humanity to go through cycles.
01:45:36.000People want to believe in this utopian vision where we finally reach the top of the mountain, sit down and say, we've done it, everything's perfect, and I just don't think that exists.
01:45:45.000For the time being, on this planet, there's cycles, there's changes, there's ebbs, there's flows, there's yin, there's yang, whatever you want to call it.
01:45:51.000There's equal and opposite reactions, which means you're never going to be able to sit down and just be like, my job is done.
01:47:43.000I think he's misunderstanding what you were saying when we were talking about going after the citizens earlier.
01:47:48.000No, he won't just go after citizens, but if it's in that act of war... That's what I was trying to clarify, right.
01:47:54.000Like, I don't think Putin is a comic book villain who's sitting there and he goes, you know what, let's waste munitions blowing up regular people for no reason.
01:48:00.000No, I think he's like, blow up that shopping mall because they're staging military weapons there.
01:48:10.000Right, so I'll clarify, like, yes, civilians are being killed in the collateral damage.
01:48:15.000I don't think he's towing his mustache saying, we must kill as many civilians as possible!
01:48:19.000I don't think he puts a lot of thought into it.
01:48:21.000I mean, truth be told, I do think Putin's probably trying to avoid, because anyone who's engaging in information warfare and manipulation knows minimizing civilian casualties is important.
01:48:33.000But this idea that everyone's a comic book villain, look, even the most, typically, the most self-interested, egotistical person isn't going to be like, I'm going to kill a bunch of people.
01:48:59.000Yeah, Random Eskimo says, Shamus, take it from a Utah Mormon, any and all reasons to laugh at Mitt Romney is not only valid, but necessary.
01:49:06.000And I just want to say, I completely agree.
01:49:27.000So someone actually did this really great analysis where they got high-resolution video and slowed it down and it's really interesting because Chris Rock doesn't defend himself.
01:49:40.000But no, no, he leans with the, he swings with the hand, like fight choreography.
01:49:47.000So maybe, look, I've walked up to a bunch of people and then I've been like, what would you do if someone was about to hit you and I'll raise my hand and what does everyone do?
01:51:01.000There's probably conversations, but I would tell you if that was the news, we'd lead with it and we would all be like, you'd see a wall of emergency food behind me the moment these countries drop the petrodollar, which may be coming.
01:51:27.000Yeah, I think this country would be ripped, ripped apart.
01:51:29.000You know, if Joe, if, if, if the petrodollar is dropped, whoever is president will be blamed and it's going to get brutal.
01:51:38.000You're going to see, you're going to see 48 year old, like, you know, women out in the streets, some from the suburbs throwing garbage cans.
01:51:49.000You think the summer of 2020 was better and granted, you know, the media does it, but If you're a reasonable person who saw the summer of 2020 and said, I don't like that.
01:51:58.000If the petrodollar gets dropped, that's not going to look like it was anything.
01:52:03.000I mean, that's going to look like a small skirmish.
01:52:05.000And I have talked to several media members who got up and did what these cops did with the mandates and they read their teleprompter and they totally disagree with it, but to keep their job, they read the teleprompter.
01:53:26.000And the idea is we're going to create a meter that once it fills all the way up, it reaches $100, it triggers the chicken party, and then we're going to have disco lights and it plays a dance song.
01:54:03.000We've got to use a bunch of different systems, like If This Then That and Streamlabs, to create a way to track Super Chats in a meter, and then ultimately trigger a sound.
01:54:12.000Triggering the sound is the hardest part, because how do you get a speaker to play a sound?
01:54:28.000And hopefully in the next day or so, you will have the opportunity to give money to support a chicken party every day and have the dance music play for the chickens.
01:55:30.000So when my kids, I've got adult kids who, you know, they went to public school and they had a very diverse friendships, friendship groups, and they came to me when this first started.
01:55:41.000They're like, oh, this person said this.
01:56:40.000But I know my mom and dad, so it's cool.
01:56:43.000But Stephen gave us $40 for that super chat.
01:56:46.000And I think as much as it doesn't really express all that much of an idea that we can contemplate, I do like reading, you know, contrarian thought or arguments or, you know, opposition opinion.
01:56:59.000So, you know, we'll take it by all means.
01:57:02.000Stephen, I'm gonna give you a hint, though.
01:57:40.000My position is mostly just we need serious reforms, whatever you want to call it.
01:57:45.000But if we're at the point where we're looking at woke leftist cops, at that point, I'm like, let's abolish them before it gets to that point.
01:58:06.000Well, I've been warning people of that.
01:58:08.000You know, you keep chasing the good ones off, you're going to be back in the 80s like New Orleans and Detroit, where you have so much corruption.
01:58:21.000All right, Caleb W says, Tim, you keep mentioning David Pakman in the same space as yourself, Crowder, Kim Iverson, and other legit independent personalities.
01:58:56.000But then he certainly, you know, like, so I know he gets it.
01:59:00.000Like, I know he sees me being like, here's an article from the New York Times showing that the thing you just put out was wrong, and he just doesn't say anything, so.
01:59:06.000You know, that being said, I don't expect everyone to be correct, and, um, I encourage people to watch everyone.
01:59:12.000So when I mention David Pakman, it's not- it's basically because I'm not gonna sit here and pretend to be the arbiter of truth and morality, and to be better or smarter than anyone.
01:59:19.000I'm gonna say, you go watch his content, and like Caleb, maybe you'll come to that conclusion and be like, wow, okay, so this- this guy's not good.
01:59:26.000Or maybe you'll be like, wow, David made a good point, Tim was wrong.
01:59:30.000I think I have faith in your intelligence and you guys going and watching other channels is important for you to develop resilience to the lies and the manipulations.
01:59:41.000I'm not here to tell anybody how to live their lives to a certain degree.
01:59:44.000Obviously, I have my opinions on morality and ethics, but ultimately I think when it comes to the truth that motivates the actions, I think you should have a lot of, you know, responsibility.
01:59:55.000I can certainly say, I think people should be standing up for themselves, doing this, if they want these things.
02:00:01.000But that is in the sense of, if you tell me you want freedom, if you tell me you want your kids to be safe, I will tell you my opinion on what I think would work for you.
02:00:10.000And that is standing up for what you believe in, because it'll make everyone's lives better.
02:00:13.000But truth be told, you do you to all me, I don't want to be responsible for your life.
02:00:17.000So, by all means, be critical of me whenever you feel like it, and I respect and expect it.
02:00:57.000So the point of Star Trek Enterprise is it takes place, it's a prequel series, and so what happens is they find a portal to like a mirror universe, which is just basically identical to theirs but a little further in the future, and they find the Starship, which is the same class as the original Star Trek series, so it looks like the same set from the 60s and the same ship.
02:02:01.000We can make our own streaming service.
02:02:03.000YouTube, in 2012, one of the top YouTube people, like I know, I've known a lot of people, I have friends at Google, told me that they're competing with Netflix and that's their goal.
02:02:13.000What's going to happen now when all of these big networks that put content on YouTube say, we're doing our own streaming service?
02:02:20.000They're going to be like, put the promos on YouTube for posting on Twitter, and then put the real stuff on our platform where we can make money.
02:02:26.000That means these big networks are going to pull off YouTube, even the small ones.
02:02:30.000Because, you know, we're certainly looking at... I would rather have our own website.
02:03:03.000We'll just do a couple more because I didn't see, I wanted to grab some specific questions to get some nuance, but I think, you know, Can I mention something very quickly?
02:03:11.000I'm seeing in the non-paid super chats people are noticing that I am differently colored than I was two episodes ago or three episodes ago.
02:03:25.000It was funny because I had not been on the several episodes prior to that one and so people thought that I had been sick and was recovering and that's why I was blue but that is not the case.
02:04:06.000Yeah, well, so what we're doing is we're trying to expand, we're trying to make culture very much like The Daily Wire is doing.
02:04:11.000Our intent is to expand as much as we can.
02:04:15.000The challenges, I am but one humble man trying to do this, which means we've got to figure out strategic ways of expansion, which means we've got to hire people, project managers, producers, and all this stuff, and it is difficult to manage, because we're certainly not, we're nowhere near as big as The Daily Wire.
02:05:33.000I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
02:05:35.000We release an animated cartoon every single week, sometimes twice a week.
02:05:40.000We're doing a tune this week on the issue of men competing in women's sports because they've called themselves women and sort of this like very milquetoast response you get from a lot of conservatives who won't even go as far as to say that.
02:06:13.000Make sure you head over, in the meantime, to YouTube.com slash Chicken City and subscribe.
02:06:17.000Right now what you'll see is the IR camera showing sleeping chickens.
02:06:22.000But throughout the day it's quite fun.
02:06:24.000And truth be told, a lot of people are saying, we have like 17,500 subscribers on this channel in like three weeks.
02:06:30.000Because people, people... Here's the truth.
02:06:32.000When people are at work and they're just like in the office or whatever, putting it on the background, you hear like woodpeckers and you hear like birds tweeting and you'll hear like a train horn and then you'll hear Sasquatch.
02:06:44.000Then you'll hear me screaming at the chickens.
02:06:46.000You'll hear my conversations as I'm outside the door.
02:06:49.000But people like the background nature sounds, which is really what makes Chicken City work.
02:06:54.000And then also the chickens are hilarious.
02:06:55.000You can give them treats and they run around doing chicken stuff.
02:07:14.000In the chat room, they call it the old Biden, because the rooster bites the neck of the hen, and it looks like... Like he's buried in it sniffing.
02:07:21.000Like he's got his head, you know, like he did that one time.