Will Chamberlain joins us to talk about the latest in the ongoing saga of the Supreme Court challenge to President-elect Joe Biden's victory in the election. Plus, the FBI issues a new warning about Chinese spying on Americans on U.S. soil.
00:00:42.000However, there is still a lawsuit coming from Texas.
00:00:47.000Texas is suing four states, so maybe Maybe that's the one, right?
00:00:51.000Everybody, Trump can still win somehow, I guess?
00:00:53.000I don't know, a lot of people are mad because they're convinced, you know, no matter what, Trump is going to win somehow.
00:00:59.000And admittedly, I will say, there's always some kind of open window, but the way I've described it is, you know, Trump is on track for some kind of victory, but the track's got loop-de-loops, there's like trees falling on it, so yeah, theoretically, if he makes it through all these obstacles, there is a way he becomes president again.
00:01:15.000But it's looking—look, let's just be real, okay?
00:01:17.000It's looking worse and worse with every one of these lawsuits.
00:01:19.000But, far be it from me, I am no legal expert, and I can't tell you.
00:01:22.000So I brought on a legal expert who recently got ratioed—one of the biggest ratios in Twitter history, I think.
00:01:42.000So, Will recently had a Twitter thread about... which case was it?
00:01:48.000I've done a thread on a number of cases.
00:01:50.000I did one on the Third Circuit case, which we're not talking about today.
00:01:52.000The crazy ratio you got of... Oh, the crazy ratio I got was just because I was frustrated with people telling me I dared say Biden was the president-elect.
00:02:00.000And they were like, you can't say that yet.
00:02:04.000Technically true, but please don't tell me what to say on my Twitter, so I was just mad.
00:02:11.000We have to talk about what this means.
00:02:14.000You're not a constitutional lawyer, you probably know better than anybody else in this room and many people on Twitter who are opining, so we'll talk about that.
00:02:21.000Because we do have the Texas lawsuit, and a lot of people are super excited.
00:02:45.000We've got This video that was published the other day on Fox News of a Chinese professor bragging, basically, that Joe Biden's compromised and that the old guard is back in power, so China's going to get what they want.
00:03:15.000I was just doing my grocery shopping until Tim called me here.
00:03:18.000I am the Sansei behind WeAreChange.org.
00:03:21.000I appreciate sungazing, and an interesting fact about me was that I was once arrested by then New York City Michael Bloomberg for asking him a question.
00:04:00.000The Supreme Court refused today to stop Pennsylvania from finalizing President-elect Joe Biden's victory in the state despite allegations from allies of President Donald Trump that the expansion of mail-in voting was illegal.
00:04:11.000I like how they say allies of President Donald Trump instead of just saying like Republicans or, you know, it's always got to be about Trump.
00:04:17.000The action by the nation's highest court, which includes three justices named by Trump, came as states across the country are locking in the results that will lead to next week's Electoral College vote.
00:04:27.000It represented the latest in a string of stinging judicial opinions that have left the president defeated both politically and legally.
00:04:34.000By their one-sentence denial, the justices left intact a ruling by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court Alright, there's a lot to go through here.
00:04:41.000passed in 2019 came far too late. New Associate Justice Amy Coney Barrett
00:04:46.000appeared to have participated in the case. No dissents or accusals were noted.
00:04:50.000Led by conservative Rep. Mike Kelly, the challengers claimed the Republican-led
00:04:54.000state legislature's expansion of absentee voting violated the Pennsylvania
00:04:58.000Constitution. Rather than going to court after its passage, however, they waited
00:05:02.000until the state figured prominently in Trump's loss to Biden last month.
00:05:06.000Alright, there's a lot to go through here. First off, I gotta clarify.
00:05:11.000The lawsuit didn't have anything to do with Trump directly.
00:05:17.000It wasn't coming from the Trump campaign.
00:05:19.000Mike Kelly actually won his race, and it was noted by a lower court judge that they would likely win on the merits, and Mike Kelly would be negatively impacted by this in the event they do get some kind of relief.
00:05:31.000But first of all, all right, Will, just give me your general opinion so we can break this down and so I can better understand this.
00:06:07.000So maybe the injunction would stop the electors from being certified. I don't know if that I think they might have
00:06:11.000already been certified I think they're already certified. It might have stopped
00:06:14.000them from going to the Voting in the Electoral College or something like that
00:06:19.000I mean an injunction is just getting the court to order somebody to stop doing something and freeze things as they
00:06:23.000are So what I read was there's a couple things
00:06:26.000First, we have the lawsuit coming out of Texas, which we'll get to in a second, because this may be bigger.
00:06:30.000I think it is absolutely bigger, in your opinion?
00:06:32.000I mean, at this point, it's certainly bigger, because... Oh, right, right, right, right.
00:06:35.000We'll get to that, but... So, I heard something that said, basically, they denied emergency rejunctive relief, but part of it has to do with the fact that Texas is asking for basically the same thing anyway.
00:06:45.000I don't really think that that's a related, that's the reason they denied here.
00:06:49.000I mean, I read the briefing from the state of Pennsylvania and it was just good briefing and it explained there were like four or five different independent procedural problems with the litigation as far as trying to get SCOTUS to do anything.
00:07:02.000You know, first off, if you're going to, you know, SCOTUS doesn't want to consider issues for the first time.
00:07:07.000They want to see things resolved in the lower courts and then they can sit as a court of review.
00:07:11.000The problem is it looks like that Kelly and Parnell and their lawyers didn't raise the sort of federal issue, the idea that not just it would be a violation of the Pennsylvania Constitution, but also that it would be a violation of the federal Constitution.
00:07:28.000Like, they did that later, but they needed to raise that specific argument earlier.
00:07:33.000And because Pennsylvania never ruled on it, or nobody ever ruled on it, and Supreme Court itself would be the first people to consider that issue, they're like, whoa, we don't want to do this.
00:07:41.000And then there were the additional issues that have popped up elsewhere.
00:09:57.000Yeah, so the federal argument goes something along the lines of because there's the electors clause in the federal constitution delegates the power to, you know, run your elections in a certain way to the legislature.
00:10:11.000And then that's also sort of incorporates the lawmaking process with, you know, the constitution, etc.
00:11:00.000I wasn't impressed by it, but that's the thing about being a Supreme Court.
00:11:03.000Like, I think there was some famous justice once who said, we're not, we're not final because we're right, or something like, we're right because we're final.
00:11:14.000In the sense of, you know, like, because we are the Court of Last Resort, that means we're right.
00:11:18.000So, the claim was that mail-in voting violated the Constitution because it already has an absentee voting provision.
00:11:26.000Violated the Pennsylvania Constitution.
00:11:28.000And the first judge did issue an injunction, and then when it got appealed to the Supreme Court, she issued then an opinion saying, here's why I did it, and they will likely win if it's ruled on the merits.
00:11:40.000But then the Supreme Court said, nah, you're too late, bye-bye.
00:11:43.000Yeah, and they didn't even they didn't even consider the federal question if or any of the questions about the actual substantive constitutionality of the statute.
00:11:50.000And they just kind of get away with it.
00:11:52.000I mean, in this case, it's one of the situations where, you know, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court is there's elections for, I think, the sitting justices.
00:11:59.000I think it's a very, very partisan court.
00:12:01.000And so it's not surprising to me that they end up.
00:12:04.000this really bad spot and then and then you know so it's not surprising the
00:12:07.000Pennsylvania Supreme Court is really partisan and didn't handle this case
00:12:09.000fairly and then it's not surprising they didn't get to go to SCOTUS with it
00:12:12.000because they didn't I don't feel like they were prepared for that right or
00:12:15.000Avenue but does this create a problem that like I mean give me give me what's
00:12:20.000your opinion do you think it's unconstitutional what they did with mail
00:12:22.000in voting oh I mean and as according to the text of the Pennsylvania
00:12:26.000I mean, the Pennsylvania Constitution says, here are how you can regulate, here are the rules for regulating absentee ballots, and these are the only circumstances where you can do it.
00:12:34.000And Pennsylvania didn't amend its constitution, they just passed legislation So are we now going to, and based on other challenges in other states, potentially have a president gets elected because of unconstitutional elections and the rest of America has to just accept that?
00:12:51.000I mean, you know, this is one of the things that I think people, you know, remember the tweet I did that got everybody angry, where I was like, Joe Biden won, he didn't win fair and square, but like, we need to get ready for that.
00:13:01.000You know, I mean, history is full of instances where people who, very famous people, won elections via cheating and took office and there wasn't like some
00:13:09.000later remedy to it we just knew they cheated in that case why shouldn't trump use any and all means to
00:13:13.000retain the presidency um i mean i don't think i just don't want to have a military coup man i
00:13:19.000really don't i think that that the down that road leads all sorts of terrible things so i think you
00:13:25.000know to me a lot of the problem here starts with the year before the election where the
00:13:30.000democrats are going around the country right weakening voter integrity measures all over the country.
00:14:09.000So, but, technically, what they agreed to it, what they've said is that we didn't realize they would do a whole bunch of crazy things like the curing process and the extended deadlines, and that's what they just rolled with after the fact.
00:14:20.000I think that's part of the Texas lawsuit, which, again, we're gonna get to in just a second.
00:14:24.000But what's crazy to me about the ruling from the judge on the Trump campaign is that On the Trump campaign lawsuit.
00:14:31.000So Trump sued, his campaign sued, Rudy Giuliani was arguing I guess saying that 682,000 ballots were counted without observers having meaningful access.
00:14:41.000Meaning the observers are supposed to look at the ballots to make sure that what the counter is saying is correct.
00:14:47.000But they kept them like 100 feet away so they couldn't see anything.
00:14:50.000And then the judge said, How many were in the building?
00:14:53.000The Trump campaign lawyer I think said very famously a non-zero number of observers were in the building, but they didn't have meaningful access.
00:15:01.000And then the judge basically said, well, the election code says observers have to be there.
00:16:12.000So the idea was, if I can say my name as anything, and I can wear any clothes, and use any pronouns, I should be able to go into a Starbucks, or go to a job, I can get hired at a job, and then show up wearing whatever I want, and say, here's my name, say it, or else, right?
00:16:26.000And they say that a willful refusal to use someone's preferred name or pronoun is a violation, a human rights violation, of $250,000, which will warrant a $250,000 fine.
00:16:39.000So I talked to multiple lawyers about this, and I said, I'm going to give you an extreme hypothetical.
00:16:43.000I'm going to take the letter of the law to the extreme degree.
00:16:45.000What if I dressed up in a very, very offensive way and said that my gender was, you know, insert racial slur gender, and that my official name was a racial slur?
00:16:54.000They said that the courts would laugh you out and say, no way, we'll never uphold that.
00:16:58.000I mean, I'd just be less pessimistic than the other lawyers you've talked to, right?
00:17:04.000and dress any way I want, why couldn't I go to Starbucks dressed like a giant Pac-Man and say
00:17:08.000I'm Pac-Gender or whatever? And I'm not trying to disparage anybody, I'm saying if the law isn't
00:17:12.000specific, couldn't it create this exploit? I mean I'd just be less pessimistic than the other
00:17:16.000lawyers you've talked to, right? I mean obviously I don't think, I wouldn't guarantee that a judge
00:17:19.000would act on it or cede the law your way, but my view is, I mean if their law is really that vaguely
00:17:25.000written, oftentimes you get results in court that people think defy common sense. I mean it's a...
00:17:35.000Some judges are more, like, strictly literalist in how they read the law.
00:17:38.000The reason why I bring that up is Well, people could exploit this to make money, obviously, but the idea is, when it comes to New York City and the human rights law, if a judge can determine that my gender is laughable, like, you know, if you clearly pick something ridiculous meant to garner laughs, and the judge does, then why would any other judge not be allowed to throw out any legitimate claim about, you know, trans human rights violations?
00:18:03.000Sure, and that's exactly the reason why they might You know, why I probably would end up disagreeing with the lawyers you previously talked to.
00:18:09.000So you could actually get a job at Starbucks, show up the next day dressed like Pac-Man and say, your name's Pac-Man.
00:18:21.000I mean, it is, it is, it is really that vague.
00:18:23.000It says, it says gender identity is self-expression.
00:18:26.000Yeah, there's definitely a lot of laws in New York City.
00:18:29.000There's also a very specific law against people's hair.
00:18:31.000So if you discriminate against someone's hair or hairstyle, you also could be fined as a business a quarter million dollars for doing so.
00:18:40.000Okay, so not to get off track, the reason I bring it up is because now I'm hearing, and again, different lawyers, different opinions, is no, it's the letter of the law.
00:18:48.000The judge just says, here's a letter of law, we're done.
00:18:51.000Like, not all judges act the same way, some judges are more... Do you think a judge should say, the law is clearly intended to make sure you can observe the ballot reasonably?
00:19:03.000I mean, I think that's the kind of thing that needs to be dealt with by a legislative fix, because I generally think that the way these things should work procedurally is, you know, judges just apply the law as written in the best reading of it, and then the legislature tweaks the law if the law is stupid.
00:19:19.000But think about the problem that creates.
00:19:20.000It's like, we say, okay, we want observers to be able to read the votes so we know there's scrutiny and the votes are legit.
00:19:27.000And then someone finds a loophole and just exploits and abuses it.
00:19:31.000So then we have an entire election that is essentially not the will of the people in any capacity because it was exploited.
00:19:38.000Well, I mean, then that question becomes like, okay, well, is there some other restriction or some other like Law, like, or right that's being compromised here, and maybe that comes into play to say, like, to constrain the way that the specific election code can be interpreted, right?
00:19:52.000So, but you need to be appealing to, like, something else.
00:19:54.000You can't just say, well, the law doesn't make any sense, so we should trust the law.
00:19:59.000Like, that usually is not something lawyers look at.
00:20:01.000Or the judge just says, I think the, you know, very clearly, the interpretation of the law is such that people can actually observe what is written on the ballot, I mean, not just to say, well, there's no official foot number in the law.
00:20:13.000So therefore, I mean, he quite literally said you could be sitting in the bathroom in the other room of the building and it counts as having an observer present.
00:20:20.000I would argue that clearly makes no sense.
00:20:22.000If they can't see it and they're not observing it, then they're not observers.
00:20:25.000And therefore, there are no observers.
00:21:03.000I think that pretty clearly Pennsylvania has really bad election codes that make a mockery of election integrity that need to be changed.
00:21:14.000But if you're asking me straight up, do I think that Pennsylvania judge was in legal error the way he interpreted the statute, it doesn't sound like it.
00:22:15.000From CNBC, Texas sues four battleground states and Supreme Court over unlawful election results in 2020 presidential race.
00:22:22.000Texas Republican Attorney General Ken Paxton on Tuesday filed a lawsuit in the U.S.
00:22:27.000Supreme Court to invalidate presidential election results in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
00:22:32.000The lawsuit asserts that unlawful election results in those four states which President-elect Joe Biden won should be declared unconstitutional.
00:22:40.000The filing argues that those states used the coronavirus pandemic as an excuse to unlawfully change their election rules.
00:22:46.000Experts in election law were quick to dismiss the likelihood of a nine Supreme Court justice taking the case.
00:22:51.000Now, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna poke your buttons a little bit and say Joe Biden is not the President-elect, but, uh... That's fine.
00:23:46.000So I mean this is a very interesting thing.
00:23:48.000Like, I had to learn, I read about it today because I was like, well, I mean, this is something you remember from your con law class is like a footnote that, by the way, when states sue each other, they go to the, straight to the Supreme Court.
00:23:58.000But it's not something that comes up very often.
00:24:26.000They have the Great Lakes Coalition though, so they're all pretty much in agreement.
00:24:29.000I remember there was Arizona suing the Great Lakes saying, we deserve access to the water because it's on American soil or whatever.
00:24:36.000And that was actually the original idea behind the Supreme Court, was you had to have a place where the states could resolve their disputes.
00:24:45.000So they're suing and they're basically saying Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc.
00:24:49.000all didn't follow their own election laws, all made a mockery of election integrity.
00:24:54.000As a result, that injures us, the state of Texas, not just because our electors don't get to vote for president and it's canceled out by these illegitimate unconstitutional votes, but also, even more important, from the state perspective, in terms of its own interests, the vice presidency is now changed.
00:25:10.000you know we're a state we have a direct interest in our Senate representation
00:25:36.000That's not, doesn't look like it's a majority view on the Supreme Court.
00:25:39.000It looks like it's just Alito and Thomas, although we don't know how the three latest justices would rule on it.
00:25:45.000That said, I am doubtful, but not like, you know, I don't think it's a guaranteed or anything, but I'm doubtful that the Supreme Court will take this case.
00:25:51.000And it kind of gets to the heart of, you know, what does the Supreme Court normally do?
00:26:19.000But because they're not equipped for it, they've kind of found ways to say, like, OK, how do we, like, not take these cases if we don't have to?
00:26:27.000We don't like to decide things in the first instance.
00:26:29.000How do we... Let's narrow this down as much as possible.
00:26:32.000And so the way they do it now is they say, well, can the underlying interests of this case be vindicated in another lawsuit somewhere else?
00:26:41.000Okay, and if they can't, then fine, we'll take it.
00:26:43.000But if they can with other litigants in a forum so that things go normally and percolate their way up, then we'll do that.
00:26:50.000This is one of those cases where there are other forums where the underlying interest being talked about in the lawsuit can be vindicated.
00:26:56.000There are election contest laws in all these states, which is actually one of the avenues we haven't really talked about where I think there's a real chance of doing something and persuading a judge.
00:27:05.000Uh, well, so, for example, in Georgia, President Trump and David Schaffer, the director of Georgia Republicans, filed a formal election contest in Georgia state court under Georgia's election contest law.
00:27:37.000And that's not going to lead to a judge just kicking it out of court.
00:27:39.000Because that's been the problem with all the lawsuits so far.
00:27:41.000Like, the other side gets in and says, oh, you have no standing and mootness and, like, going down the list of, like, problems with your lawsuit that mean we don't even get to the substance.
00:28:20.000That's why all the judges want to be Supreme Court judges.
00:28:25.000So as a result, if they don't want to be reversed, they try and put all their decisions in writing and make them pretty rigorous so that they survive appeal.
00:28:31.000Literally, the guy just looked at the Kraken plaintiffs and their lawyers and was like, you guys lose for, like, four reasons.
00:29:33.000When they lost, when Trump's campaign lost in I think the third circuit over, I was basically saying, you know, a bunch of people were like, that's exactly what we wanted.
00:29:41.000Thanks for ruling so quickly so we can get to SCOTUS.
00:29:44.000And I'm like, there is a good point to be made in that if they're going to win, and they're still going to SCOTUS anyway, then they want to get there as fast as possible, right?
00:29:57.000And you don't want to lose the way they lost in the Third Circuit.
00:30:00.000Which was, again, in all these procedural problems.
00:30:02.000Things like, even if you won your point, you wouldn't have enough to change the result of the election based on the claims you're making.
00:30:07.000So you have to get out of court, or, you know.
00:30:10.000Well, that was they wanted to amend the complaint a second time, or whatever.
00:30:13.000Oh yeah, gosh, the way they went about that was so silly.
00:30:16.000They wanted to amend the complaint a second time.
00:30:18.000They weren't actually appealing the underlying substantive ruling.
00:30:21.000They were appealing the decision by the district court not to let them fix their complaint.
00:30:25.000And usually that's granted liberally because you want to basically... Everybody should have access to justice, so they shouldn't be kicked out of court on technicality.
00:30:33.000But the Trump campaign had been there saying, we have to get this done by November 23rd.
00:30:37.000We need to do it really fast because, you know, the election certification, blah, blah, blah.
00:30:59.000Is he a old crackpot well past his prime who's falling apart or a mad freaky genius playing 4D chess who's going to pull out a tremendous victory?
00:31:27.000I mean, it's possible I'm wrong about this and you already appealed recently, but that's like a practice.
00:31:31.000They were doing things like, one of the things that in the third circuit case, people didn't miss this too, they appealed a temporary restraining order.
00:31:54.000This is why you would hire experienced appellate lawyers because they don't, they don't have to wait for the judge's opinion to find out what they should have done.
00:32:00.000So, uh, so, but, but you're, you're a big Trump supporter.
00:32:03.000You're, you're, I mean, you mentioned this before the show that we had a conversation a couple of years ago where I was like, it sounds like we agree on all of these, like, you know, culture war kind of issues and stuff.
00:32:12.000And then I don't know if it was you asked me or I asked you something like you asked me then why wasn't I supporting Trump or something?
00:33:18.000Your filing was procedurally correct so far.
00:33:21.000And then they decide if they want to hear it or not.
00:33:23.000Yeah, they decide if they want to hear it or not.
00:33:24.000Odds are, my answer is, they probably won't.
00:33:26.000But if they get past that, if the Socotas decides, on this one little decision, they're going to overlook how they've been doing things in the past.
00:33:45.000But even so, I think, you know, if I'm betting man, I'm not betting on the success of that litigation, because in general, I mean, it's the problem we talked about earlier, that the interests underlying, that they're trying to be vindicated there, right, election irregularities, there's processes in the individual states to deal with it, and the Supreme Court generally hates having these original jurisdiction cases and only will take them if there's no other place it can be vindicated.
00:34:27.000After I, like all this nonsense with the one stuff I looked on Predict It and they were, Predict It was giving me like, they said Trump was at 13% to win and you can make a bet on based on that.
00:34:37.000Well, but, uh, so, Predict It has Trump at 14.
00:34:55.000I keep telling everybody, man, there's two big plays right here.
00:34:58.000If you really think Trump's got, you know, 40 chests and the Kraken was actually hiding and wasn't slain at all, you really think Trump's going to win.
00:35:09.000You got to go and you got to place those bets, right?
00:35:36.000Yeah, I got like four grand riding on Biden.
00:35:39.000I'm sure there's a ton of people watching right now who are like, oh, I hope he loses that money Well, here's I actually I have a there's sort of an ethical thing Like I think if you make predictions like this you should bet on them.
00:35:49.000That's a good betting is a tax on BS Yeah, right like that's a good point.
00:35:53.000Yeah, you know, so, you know make a video like series like You know, when Luke comes out and he says something, I'll be like, okay, put the money down.
00:36:33.000In 2018, I was like, I think the Republicans are gonna keep control, and they're gonna keep the House, maybe even gain in the House, because all the culture war stuff was getting crazy.
00:37:07.000So when it turns out that, you know, now the election is going Biden's way and I'm saying, yeah, Biden's got this, I'm probably wrong again.
00:37:13.000And now we're all going like, no, I've been saying over and over again, ever since the seventh, It's 99.99% for Biden.
00:37:21.000The reason I reserve that, actually earlier on I said it was like 97%.
00:37:25.000This was before Trump actually filed the lawsuits and I was like, so he has all of these ways to challenge these things.
00:37:30.000And then as his campaign and other Republicans and pro-Trump individuals have been losing, I'm like, He, of course, still can.
00:38:15.000Oh no, you're right, it's about the presidential election, so it's Article 2.
00:38:17.000That it doesn't matter what the states say, the state legislatures always decide.
00:38:22.000Yeah, I mean, I think there's the absolute authority is placed in the state legislatures, but I don't think they're gonna do anything to contradict the Electoral College.
00:38:30.000Like, if you think about it, the idea that the state elections don't matter and that... They don't.
00:38:35.000I mean, in like... This is the craziest thing, because I've been reading more and more about early US history, and the founding fathers didn't want direct democracy.
00:38:43.000Like, we all know that, and we've actually been sort of eroded Yeah.
00:38:48.000The Senate, meaning making the Senate elections direct elections.
00:39:03.000We don't care about local elections anymore.
00:39:06.000And now our own communities fall apart and become detached and dejected.
00:39:10.000Yeah, it's like our whole politics has been nationalized.
00:39:12.000Like, you can't run a local paper doing local politics section.
00:39:14.000That's a whole, you know... No one cares.
00:39:16.000And what's really irksome to me is when I see someone running for Congress talking about how if they get elected, they're going to do all the good things for our district.
00:39:25.000I'm like, you represent the district to the federal government.
00:40:10.000If that's how the system still worked, then you'd be like, you gotta vote for, you know, who's the PA state senator guy who's, um, Mastriano, is that his name?
00:41:23.000They used to write about, with this phenomenon, you could have a local politician be extremely corrupt, and there's no one to write about it, because no one cares.
00:41:31.000Do I care about, you know, I don't know, the mayor of Gainesville committing some crime or whatever?
00:41:48.000I have to think about it, though, because part of this is youth and, you know, living wherever you want.
00:41:52.000I wonder if, like, we would change our minds if we were, you know, well, I guess you are a homeowner, but...
00:41:57.000Yeah, like if I was like personally a homeowner in a place and knew I was gonna stay there for 20 years I might start caring a little more about local elections.
00:42:03.000Yeah, but but no, I mean your general point that was correct about how I mean our politics have been nationalized our media has been nationalized and the concerns people have are are You know ultimate, you know, and also like I have a random thing like people people would say to me like there's you know I think you might have said this there's no way Joe Biden got 80 million some votes.
00:42:19.000Mm-hmm, like I think there is a way, for sure.
00:42:27.000Normies were radicalized by a psychotic Trump derangement media apparatus that sought to make money off of outrage about Trump, and it created a whirlpool that sucked in regular people who snapped and said, I just can't take it anymore!
00:42:43.000Yeah, no, I think that's exactly, that was exactly my thesis, right?
00:42:46.000Like, our, you know, sports went away, like, what were people even focused on over the last year?
00:42:50.000But I think Trump's, Trump got oceans elevened, that's the way I put it.
00:42:53.000Like, the real heist happened months ago, when they were going around knocking on doors and saying, vote, when they're doing ballot harvesting, when they were doing those illegal, uh, democracy in the park things in Wisconsin.
00:43:02.000There's the, the viral videos of the Native American women saying, like, we're gonna give you money if you vote, like, make sure you tell us you vote.
00:43:08.000One tribe actually said, send us a picture of you voting, we'll send you 20 bucks.
00:43:21.000I referenced that when we had Destiny here, he's a leftist, and he said, if these claims of, like, irregularity and fraud and stuff, or the observers being blocked were true, then where were all the videos on election night?
00:43:31.000And I was like, Will Chamberlain was there and he posted, like, a video in the morning of, like, an observer being kicked out.
00:43:58.000They just... They were so tuned for, like, oh, there's misinformation.
00:44:02.000People are gonna spread misinformation.
00:44:03.000I'm like, You guys know, there's actual shenanigans going on in Philly.
00:44:06.000And I don't know that there was some, like, massive plot to, like, thwart poll watching.
00:44:10.000It's more like that, you know, what I would attribute this particular thing to was just sort of an arrogance among the poll workers in that area that, like, they were kings of the castle.
00:44:55.000They kicked out the observers and boarded the windows up.
00:44:57.000Right, and I'm actually for, like, as a general rule, like, the idea that if you wrongfully kick out poll watchers, then the votes go away, right?
00:45:10.000Like, I mean, that's, you know, like, that's how it kind of works in the court system generally.
00:45:14.000Like, if you fail to produce something of litigation, judges will eventually issue an adverse inference instruction saying, jury, you need to assume that this was terrible evidence for them that proved that they did something horrible.
00:45:23.000Interesting, um, you know, and that's the way I should look at I think we should look at but we need to change the law
00:46:36.000You know, there's cases where you have better odds and worse odds, right?
00:46:39.000If you're fighting six different procedural arguments that a judge has to decide, oh, well, I'm just going to have to ignore the law in, like, six different core areas of our jurisprudence in order to rule for you.
00:46:49.000They're just not going to—they don't want to do that.
00:46:50.000What are the odds you would give Trump of winning?
00:47:28.000It's like in a movie, and there's like four bad guys, and then like, Texas comes up, and he pulls out his gun and goes, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam!
00:47:35.000And then just knocks them all out at once, and then on the gun, he puts it away.
00:47:50.000I think, you know, it's annoying to me that people think you're not allowed to be wrong when you make predictions.
00:47:56.000It's like, you can be wrong, whatever.
00:47:57.000Like, at the time, you had made an educated guess based on the evidence laid before you, and there's a lot of variables, and there you go.
00:48:07.000So I'll tell you this man, long story short, I had a buddy tell me in 2011 not to buy Bitcoin when it was at 70 cents.
00:48:12.000Because he said, you can't do anything with it, it's hard to get, if you make this purchase now, you'll be putting a bunch of your money into something you can't get out, and then what happens in a month when everyone forgets about it, you'll have nothing.
00:48:22.000That's actually a really good argument, so I said, better not buy it.
00:48:25.000If I had spent the five grand on 70 cent Bitcoin, I would be very, very happy today if I did, but it was, it would have been stupid for me to take.
00:48:33.000It was basically my life savings and putting it in Bitcoin.
00:48:36.000I was like, this new technology, this is amazing.
00:50:02.000You try and beat him, or, I mean, or, well, and one of the things I've been talking about has been, let's get a special counsel going, right?
00:50:19.000But let's have a new one for the China Burisma stuff.
00:50:23.000And let's have one for the election irregularities.
00:50:25.000And let's make the Democrats adhere, you know, if the Democrats want, like, obviously a Democrat Attorney General can figure out a way to fire these people.
00:51:35.000soldiers, to military personnel with top secret clearances, just like that NYPD officer that was taken in, and also other governments like Israel that have sold U.S.
00:52:01.000I'm gonna call them the old friends from now on.
00:52:02.000He did extensively talk about Wall Street and how Wall Street was able to contain someone like Obama that was very easy to manipulate and then he said when Trump came in The story wasn't so true, and then he thinks that when Biden comes in, things are gonna go back to normal.
00:52:33.000So, look, Sam Harris tweeted the other day, the story from the New York Times, why do so many people think the election was rigged?
00:52:41.000And Jeffrey Miller, he's another professor, responded that when there's so much anti-conservative bias in academia and institutions and the media, people just don't trust the elections, right?
00:52:51.000But it's crazy to me that we have Joe Biden, the single greatest president in American history, based on his ability.
00:52:58.000I mean, you have to imagine the amount of votes he got, 80 million, and the amount of campaigning he did, basically none.
00:53:06.000He must have been the most powerfully charismatic individual.
00:53:09.000I can only imagine when he got up on TV and he said, come on man, every single one of these voters was blasted back by the pure awe of Joe Biden's charisma.
00:53:50.000You know, there are certainly scandals that are loathsome, but personality-wise, he's not like Hillary, and he's not like a lot of Democrats who are just, you know... Well, so let me ask you this.
00:54:02.000Let me load the question up a little bit.
00:54:06.000Joe Biden beat every non-polling bellwether metric, such as voter enthusiasm, party registration numbers, Google searches, which is a new one.
00:54:16.000There's primary vote count and support.
00:54:20.000He also won the other silly ones like cookie sales and mass—I'm sorry, he lost.
00:54:24.000Oh, you're talking about Trump won all these and Biden— Biden beat them.
00:54:27.000So basically, all of these things weren't against him.
00:54:30.000So whoever gets the highest enthusiasm tends to win.
00:54:32.000Whoever gets the best primary turnout tends to win.
00:54:34.000Whoever gets the most new registration tends to win.
00:54:38.000Whoever sells the most Halloween masks and most cookies.
00:55:21.000The big tech monopolies were in his corner.
00:55:23.000Hollywood was in his corner, the mainstream media was in his corner, the establishment was in his corner, and they all are working together, helping each other out.
00:55:31.000So it makes you really wonder what really happened here, especially with the latest revelations from this professor from Beijing.
00:55:40.000When he said about Hunter and how the Hunter story was treated in the United States, it was a Essentially stuffed out the American public were denied the truth about the Hunter Biden emails because of the mainstream media and big tech social monopolies collusion destroying it.
00:57:47.000And voted for Hillary and voted for Biden.
00:57:49.000But even she called me the other day and said, I'm really still glad Trump went to Georgia to get those Republican Senate candidates elected.
00:57:57.000There really is that constituency of people Um, in, in certain places like Georgia that just couldn't, couldn't stomach Trump, but would generally want Republicans in power.
00:58:07.000Well, let's talk about the more severe reality of what comes next.
00:58:18.000They say the FBI is warning local law enforcement agencies to beware of cooperating with a Chinese government campaign to coerce U.S.
00:58:26.000residents to return to China to face criminal charges, according to a counterintelligence bulletin obtained by Yahoo News.
00:58:32.000The bulletin comes shortly after eight people Including a former New York Police Department officer were indicted on charges of acting as a legal agents for Beijing Eight people including a new NYPD officer were I mean, how is this not treason?
00:58:48.000Well, he wasn't just an NYPD officer It's he also held a very important security clearance because he was in the military as well in the US military in the US military as well and he was spying on the Tibetan community and Which was a protest community that he was going back all the way to China giving out key information who was a part of organizing against the Chinese government.
00:59:07.000Do you see what Mike Pompeo said earlier this year?
00:59:15.000So I feel like this guy getting up on stage in China and gloating that the Bidens are basically in the pockets of the old friends and seeing the story about Hunter Biden.
00:59:27.000Let me just make something really really clear.
00:59:29.000Joe Biden took Hunter Biden and Air Force Two to China for a private equity deal.
01:00:38.000I mean, in terms of agents, like, we don't have any meaningful presence there.
01:00:41.000They have, I mean, there's some great books on this about what the variety of different operations China's running here.
01:00:48.000Trying to hack lower-level defense contractors, because they can't hack, obviously, the DOD, but they try and get low-level contractors and get plans that way.
01:00:59.000I mean, there are, I think, something that somebody said to me, or I think I might have read it, there are serious technical computer science programs at College Park taught by Chinese professors to Chinese students in Chinese.
01:01:16.000Dude, they're manipulating their real estate market in China to create this, like, a regular middle class house is like a million dollars compared to an American, which is, you know, $200,000 to $300,000 or something like that.
01:01:29.000They're buying up large swaths of land in countries all over the world.
01:01:33.000In Brazil, in Africa, in the U.S., on the West Coast, they're buying up tons and tons of property.
01:01:39.000They're just slowly buying their way to take everything over.
01:01:43.000It's basically they've convinced the United States to give up all its manufacturing in exchange for cheap labor.
01:01:49.000These politicians we've had over the past several decades, the old friends, as D. Dong Cheng says, have thought to themselves, look, it's good for the American business to have dollar an hour Chinese laborers I've got to pay benefits to.
01:02:50.000Yes, exactly. This Beijing professor confirmed everything that we've been hearing about for a very long time. We were
01:02:56.000talking about this two days ago Before the video came out. Two days ago, we were breaking
01:02:59.000everything down and we got to understand we're in their trade war
01:03:02.000We're gonna gonna be in a currency war We're probably according to the tzatziki trap might be even
01:03:08.000in a hot war and we have to understand China has its hands deep in
01:03:13.000American institutions like we can't even imagine When we look at politicians and corporations, they have been enriched more than they could have even imagined because of this opening of China policy that has been instituted by individuals like Henry Kissinger under the Nixon administration.
01:03:28.000that literally went to China with David Rockefeller and said, Hey, we're going to have a lot of jobs for you.
01:03:33.000We're going to bring you a lot of factories.
01:03:35.000We're going to bring you a lot of industry.
01:03:36.000You just give us the cheap Chinese slave labor, and then we're going to have a great deal and everything's going to go through China.
01:03:41.000And that's exactly what's happening right now.
01:03:43.000Look, it's beyond just the schools where they have the Thousand Towns Project, where they've actually got a bunch of professors taking 50k a month or whatever, recruiting more people and selling our secrets.
01:03:54.000They've got Hollywood bending the knee.
01:03:56.000Doing movies where they remove negative things that could offend China.
01:04:10.000A few years ago, everyone was talking about Tibet and the Tibetans and the things that they're going through with the Chinese government.
01:04:16.000Now, no one's even talking about Tibet.
01:04:18.000No one's talking about the Uyghur Muslims.
01:04:19.000No one's talking about The Hong Kong, where we're getting video footage right now of them sending activists and protesters to mainland China to never be seen again.
01:04:29.000Or the video footage of the Uyghur Muslims being loaded into trains, heads shaven.
01:04:34.000All that's happening, and it sounds like if Trump isn't the president in the next four years, we will just be subjects of China.
01:04:42.000I mean, I don't think we'll be subjects of China.
01:05:01.000I'm going to stop and talk about a different social media app, okay, that's similar.
01:05:07.000And what they do is, and I've mentioned this before, you get, in order to get a bunch of young people using your social media app so you can manipulate them and control what they see and what they think, you get some kids to use it.
01:05:38.000Because I don't know if TikTok did this, but I know there's another company that did this, and it worked out very, very, very, very well for them.
01:05:44.000You get all these young people to use it, and eventually you've created a cultural wave that everybody wants to be on it, because they want to get recognition, they want the followers, they want the points, they want the score.
01:05:53.000Then, you use the algorithm to control what they can see and what they can't see.
01:05:56.000All of a sudden now, anything negative about China is gone.
01:05:59.000Everything positive about China is coming back.
01:06:01.000Donald Trump is the orange man, he's awful, he's evil, he's bad, everybody hates him, right?
01:06:18.000Yeah, like, I mean, there needs to be reciprocity there or nothing at all, right?
01:06:23.000It's ridiculous that it took so long or that people were even pushing back against the problem of China.
01:06:27.000And they're aggressively going after VPNs so people in China can't even, you know, change their addresses to see what people in the world are saying.
01:06:35.000So just imagine living in China where your social credit score relies on what you regurgitate, what you read.
01:06:41.000If you read something you're not supposed to read, your social credit score goes down.
01:06:45.000And this is a society that other places like Singapore and other governments are even thinking about adapting themselves, because this is a great way to control people, to subjugate people, and to benefit the special interest class, which are seeing these things.
01:06:59.000They're saying, wait, this could be probably good here.
01:07:01.000And then we have a Biden administration where his cabinet is being filled with individuals that are literally arguing, we can't do anything to stifle.
01:07:08.000We shouldn't stop China, because if we do, that's going to hurt the global economy.
01:07:27.000We need to bypass ISPs and get this free software mesh network in place.
01:07:31.000We need it here so we don't get censored, but they need it.
01:07:36.000Yeah, I mean free and open internet is something critically important.
01:07:40.000And when you see China controlling it, controlling what their people can and cannot listen to and see, this is a huge, vast power that it just started out with saying, with the government coming out saying, no, we're going to tell you what you should listen to.
01:07:54.000Just like corporations are making the argument here.
01:07:57.000We have to fight against fake news and everything that's wrong in our society.
01:08:00.000We're going to curate everything for you and provide it to you on a silver platter.
01:08:03.000I think we're on track to Based on everything we're seeing happening right now, when I say that we'll be subjects of China, I don't mean in a year, I mean in 50 or 100.
01:08:14.000We will be a weak, old regional power, probably fractured in many ways with a, you know, disparate broken government in some... I imagine at that point, you know, and again a lot of variables from now between the 50 or 100 years, but China's got the power, China's growing, China's controlling us, and we're losing.
01:08:36.000I would say I'm that as pessimistic as you are, but I definitely think that we're, in general, I mean, the Democrats are, you know, continuing Democrat control will lead to that, sure.
01:08:44.000Look at the past several decades of what the U.S.
01:09:02.000And it's not like the collective spirit of America has said, oh, I failed, I'm done.
01:09:07.000It's that we've got politicians that never cared about us, and it's partly our fault.
01:09:11.000When people go in and they say, I'm gonna vote Democrat, I'm voting Republican, they don't know who they're voting for.
01:09:16.000They end up voting for people who are just like, vote for me, and I'll fight for you, I'll give you whatever you want, and then all they really wanted was the keys to the castle.
01:09:23.000They wanna get the paycheck, they wanna get the pension, and they wanna get their name etched in stone for history, and then they did nothing.
01:09:29.000And then when it came to passing bills, they said, How much money can we make in the short term if we send our manufacturing to, you know, to Mexico, to Indonesia, to, you know, to Vietnam or China?
01:09:39.000We'll make a ton of money in the short term.
01:10:19.000There can be a million good computer jobs, but if, you know, 50 million kids are coming out of college with computer degrees, there's still no jobs.
01:10:25.000Now they're saying, nothing works, we need communism.
01:10:28.000But communism doesn't produce anything, it extracts things.
01:10:31.000So over a long enough period of time, as everyone keeps demanding the government pay my bills, we need a stimulus!
01:10:37.000Lock everything down, have the government pay for it.
01:10:50.000I would say all the jobs are definitely in China with the Uyghur Muslims producing a lot of the corporate American goods that lecture us on racism here in the United States, which is something that people need to realize as well.
01:11:01.000But I don't know if we want to go into the next story, but I mean, they infiltrate not only these kind of intellectual institutions that kind of set Uh, our young children to be where they are right now.
01:11:13.000China has a huge influence on the universities and colleges, but they also infiltrate politicians in more ways than one as we found out today with the Chinese spy.
01:11:25.000Swalwell has the nerve to say cheat an election when he had a fundraiser organized by a Chinese spy.
01:11:33.000Yes, and there's accusations by Donald Trump Jr.
01:11:36.000that allegedly this spy had relations with Mr. Eric Swalwell, which by the way, Eric Swalwell was one of the biggest proponents of Russian collusion.
01:11:45.000If you remember, he was out there on all the media networks.
01:13:05.000When Trump was accused of Russia, they just started spying on him.
01:13:07.000The FBI called him and notified him that he was infiltrated by the Chinese government And we still don't know exactly what this person has.
01:13:14.000We don't know what information they were able to gather.
01:13:16.000This person also did fundraisers for Tulsi Gabbard, of all people.
01:13:21.000So this is a major big story that's going to have a lot of ramifications.
01:13:26.000Because when you look at the Beijing professor, he also talked about a political figure that helped him out tremendously, that now has Chinese citizens and now was back in China.
01:13:36.000So we saw this Beijing professor literally talk about this, gloating about this.
01:13:40.000acting very happy that this happened and now we have this ...
01:13:43.000story that just came out there and I think this probably ...
01:13:47.000happened a couple weeks ago maybe even a couple months ago ...
01:13:50.000and now we're just finding out about it is a correlation with ...
01:13:54.000it you make me more pessimistic but the whole China ...
01:13:57.000I mean I rather know the truth and reality that we're facing ...
01:14:00.000than be blinded to exactly what's going on.
01:14:02.000Because we have to understand, our institutions are corrupted to the core, and they need to be replaced immediately.
01:16:15.000Like, I'm sorry, you don't get to call us Nazis one day and then suddenly have me turn around and sing Kumbaya with you.
01:16:20.000But they think it's going to calm down when you've literally got, you know, Lin Wood and Cindy Powell, for instance, saying, don't vote Republican.
01:16:46.000But it's also the consequence of that.
01:16:49.000If what you're calling for is martial law and a re-vote, and if you actually prevailed, then half of America would be burned down.
01:16:57.000If Trump succeeds in his efforts, because president, Yeah, it's going to be Antifa times 10 times 100.
01:17:04.000And I mean, like, I mean, that's not that's not independently a reason, right?
01:17:09.000The question is, like, I, the reason I pose that is not like, oh, well, Antifa is bad, and they'll do bad things.
01:17:13.000It's not, you know, we shouldn't let that control our behavior and decision making.
01:17:17.000But Uh, that doesn't mean I want to live in a country with coups or, uh, sort of what do you, what do you look if, if Trump on January 21st is a regular guy again, the new New York's going after him like crazy and, and the media smears and lies about him.
01:17:44.000I mean, they can't pardon the state level, but I think the sort of urgency and onus to keep going after Trump is gone if he's not president anymore.
01:18:45.000Put him on the list of enablers and supporters.
01:18:47.000So if we're at the point where we already have martial law locked on many places and states that's violating the Constitution, they're calling for truth and reconciliation commissions, tribunals, and things like that, and then on the other side they're calling for martial law, like, how does this go down?
01:20:04.000So that's also another factor to really consider here.
01:20:06.000And also that a big swap of the left is not really impressed with Biden at all.
01:20:10.000But I was going to ask you, how do you see this unfolding in the worst case scenario?
01:20:14.000And how do you see it unfolding in the best case scenario?
01:20:17.000I mean, worst case, you get I mean, I guess, like, Democrats are gonna be in control of the federal government, and Republicans generally don't do, like, full-scale rebellion.
01:20:28.000And they don't do cultural institutions.
01:20:30.000And they don't do cultural institutions, but they also don't do, like, Antifa-type stuff in general.
01:20:34.000Like, there isn't—you know, you don't see the sort of burning down of the cities and— Let me know your thoughts on this.
01:20:40.000I think we might see, you know, Joe Biden, for instance, he wants to ban all online sales of guns and accessories and ammo and things like that.
01:20:46.000He wants to do what you- Bullet registration and a $200 tax on every- Every gun, NFA.
01:20:51.000What is it, National Firearms Act, is that what it is?
01:20:55.000That's why we need to make sure we don't lose the damn Senate.
01:20:58.000Well, so what happens then if he does this, if the Senate does this, if they pack the courts, I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of jurisdictions, small towns, all of a sudden had right-wing militias putting up checkpoints.
01:21:09.000I mean, I think that would be a point where you'd actually see the sort of rebellions and like, you know, real serious Yeah, but I think, I mean, my guess is that's ultimately going to be just talk.
01:21:17.000I don't think Biden's going to sign new gun legislation.
01:21:32.000You don't think they'll pack the Supreme Court?
01:21:34.000I mean, I think, I think if they had the power, they would do it.
01:21:38.000And I think the big problem there is what you'll... I don't know if Biden will do this stuff at the federal level, but what I expect will be in a world where the court is packed, DC versus Heller gets overturned.
01:22:01.000And it's scary that that decision's even close.
01:22:02.000Like, I mean, it requires real bastardization of the grammar of the Second Amendment.
01:22:06.000Well, have you read the original Second Amendment?
01:22:09.000Oh, the one that says that we can do whatever we want with guns?
01:22:12.000It's like that Parks and Rec, Ron Swanson?
01:22:15.000When they were initially proposing the Bill of Rights, there were like 17 articles that were proposed.
01:22:20.000The original Second Amendment said something to the effect of, If someone chooses not to join active duty militia or military, they will still have the right to bear arms.
01:22:30.000And they took that language out, I guess, because there was a concern about it could potentially mean people could avoid conscription.
01:22:37.000So initially they were like, you can bear, you know, a well-regulated militia being necessary to, you know, for a free state, the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
01:22:45.000And if an individual chooses not to join or be part of militia, they shall still have the right to bear arms.
01:22:49.000And they were like, wait, wait, wait, get rid of that part, because it makes it sound like you can avoid conscription.
01:22:53.000And we need conscription, because at the time, if you were an able-bodied male, it's like, you're going to war, buddy.
01:22:59.000So they get rid of it, now we have these arguments, which I think are completely in bad faith.
01:23:03.000If you actually look at the history of the Second Amendment, we had privateers, we had corsairs.
01:23:07.000Like, a regular dude's like, here's my battleship I can use to blow up a French, you know, trade vessel.
01:23:13.000Regular citizens had cannons on their houses and properties and things like that, so they could.
01:23:17.000Now, now it's like, you can't have any of that, and that's the argument, but anyway.
01:23:22.000Also defund the police, because the police are bad, and really just like, let yourself be at the mercy of people who would do violence to you.
01:23:29.000That's why I think what we're talking about is fifth generational warfare.
01:23:33.000Disarm the people, and disarm their local police.
01:24:34.000I mean, and like, I still, you know, I still am a, Georgia's a red state in general.
01:24:39.000I think it just had a particular coalition, sort of like Utah, if like Utah were a closer state.
01:24:44.000Utah was, you know, very Mormon and had a big chunk of, you know, Trump underperformed his normal, the normal Republican performance in that state.
01:24:52.000So I think Georgia's kind of similar in that respect, where you've got You know, that big suburban Atlanta population.
01:24:58.000Since you're a betting man, what odds would you give on Georgia going Republican?
01:25:10.000Like, you know, when I was, I, the funny thing is I didn't bet on the original, the election before the election, cause I thought the odds were about right.
01:25:15.000You know, I think Trump was about a two to one dog or something like that.
01:25:19.000I have to say, either way, it doesn't look good, because if, you know, the Senate is, by one, a majority of the Republicans, how much dirt do the Chinese have, especially with their honeypots on one politician, to persuade them or to push them into doing whatever they want?
01:25:32.000I mean, and they've been doing some crazy stuff.
01:25:34.000I mean, they decided—I still don't understand this and why they would even consider it.
01:25:37.000They did the Mike Lee's immigration bill where he wanted to, like, remove country caps.
01:25:42.000Guys, get a grip, we're trying to win the Senate here, and you're out there, you're pushing liberalized immigration policy when there's a Republican... That's why I don't even think the Republicans are going to do enough to defend the country.
01:25:54.000I just, I mean, I don't expect much out of them, I just expect them not to do things that are, you know, disastrous and catastrophic, because, I mean, the way I look at it is Democrats want to completely remove the ability for Republicans to win elections.
01:26:05.000I don't know if you've read the book, It's Time to Fight Dirty, I might have recommended it, I don't know.
01:26:09.000But basically, I mean, what do they want to do?
01:26:12.000Pack the Supreme Court, add more states so that they can control the Senate permanently, you know, national voter registration, you know, automatic voter registration, voting day a holiday.
01:26:21.000They want to completely... Universal mail-in voting.
01:26:32.000Yeah, and I mean, but the end goal here is permanent Democratic control, and they thought they almost had it.
01:26:36.000They thought they were going to get it.
01:26:38.000One of the, you know, and that's actually one of the arguments, like, why I don't think the whole thing was rigged, you know, in terms of, like, well, the voting machines are rigged.
01:26:43.000Well, if the voting machines were rigged, why didn't they just get a result in line with polling?
01:26:48.000You know, Democrats underperform public polling in the run-up to the election.
01:27:09.000Then when it came to actually, as Trump has said, this is their opinion, That he ended up winning so well that they panicked and had to really go crazy on, you know, cranking out the fake votes.
01:27:35.000I mean, and like, I think there's plenty of cheating on the fringe, right?
01:27:38.000Like, I still think that, you know, I watched poll watchers get denied entry.
01:27:41.000I watched how frivolous, like, the behavior of these Democratic poll workers was.
01:27:46.000And I'm like, these people could have—there's no moral thing that would have stopped these people from doing some amount of cheating if they could get away with it.
01:27:52.000Um, the question is just what could they get away with?
01:27:54.000And I think, you know, you end up getting away with things like coerced absentee votes, duplicate votes, those sort of, and then maybe some bad stuff.
01:28:02.000Well, in Philly they were putting up those signs saying, here's who you should vote for.
01:28:05.000Yeah, like that's super it's like it's the weird like it's like the cheating on the margins or fraud on the margins versus like fraud at the core and I think that I haven't seen any good evidence of fraud at the core.
01:28:14.000I don't think there's like proof of you know, these the Dominion allegations, but there's like that's that's that's so wait, you know, you know what really bothered me about Dominion stuff is that I even said this on the show.
01:28:34.000There will be some dirty politician, and he'll get caught doing something illegal, and when someone starts sniffing too close, What they'll do is they'll throw out some crazy idea to throw him off the trail, and then instead of saying, I caught this dude doing drugs, it turns into crazy pizza cult at, you know, in D.C.
01:28:50.000And now the real crime is they're laughing, saying, we tricked those people, how easy.
01:28:55.000So right now when you've got actual irregularity and impropriety, Trump's suing and trying to be legitimized in his claims.
01:29:01.000The single worst thing for Donald Trump in all of this was the lawsuit from Sidney Powell And that's why a lot of people, it's funny, they're claiming that Sidney Powell's a Democrat and Lynwood's a Democrat and they're like trying to subvert Trump.
01:29:16.000I tell you, man, I was reading a post on Reddit and they said when it comes to a coup, the one thing a leader and the person staging the coup need is legitimacy.
01:29:27.000The current leader needs to tell everyone, I'm in charge, I will always be in charge, listen to what I have to say so that the lower, you know, individuals, the police, the law enforcement, military, listen.
01:29:36.000What the other guy needs in the coup is legitimacy in the same regard.
01:29:41.000Here's why I'm actually in charge, listen to me.
01:29:44.000Trump comes out and says, 682,000 votes.
01:29:57.000Then all of a sudden, Sidney Powell comes out with this typo-laden, crackin' lawsuit that sounds crazy, that has, you know, it's almost impossible to back up except for a bunch of YouTube videos and a bunch of weird videos popping up.
01:30:09.000loses that legitimacy. The media jumped on that in two seconds and tried making every claim from
01:30:14.000the Trump campaign about the fringes and craziest conspiracy to delegitimize his claim that he
01:30:19.000actually won. And it worked. Yep. Yeah, no, I, those lawsuits are a disaster.
01:30:26.000And I had people in my mentions constantly, who knows if they're real or not, honestly, but people in my mentions being like, how dare you say that this won't work?
01:30:34.000And it's just like, because I'm a lawyer, and I can read a brief.
01:31:25.000Frogs boiling in a pot eventually just boil.
01:31:29.000But you throw boiling water at a frog and the frog's going to jump and run away.
01:31:32.000That's what the accelerationists think.
01:31:35.000Yeah, I mean, well, maybe there's some big giant strategy, but really I think it's just a giant PR exercise from people who've gotten high on their own supply of PR.
01:33:24.000Seems like, I don't know if this team thought, hey, we'll just put the first female kicker on to get all this good social justice PR, but it resulted in the players actually crying.
01:33:35.000So this is the story from the Daily Caller.
01:33:37.000They say, Vanderbilt players were apparently emotional during Sarah Fuller's kick against Missouri.
01:33:41.000Okay, maybe they were crying because with tears of joy, right?
01:33:45.000They were just crying watching this historic moment.
01:33:48.000During the 41-0 blowout loss, Fuller became the first woman to play in a major college football game.
01:33:54.000When she kicked the start of the second half, the ball went a staggering 30 yards.
01:33:57.000There were some people on the sideline tearing up, QB Mike Wright said during a Saturday morning College Game Day segment on Fuller's kick.
01:34:05.000As hard as that might be to believe, I can promise that I'm not making this up.
01:35:32.000They're going to think it was actually Alex Jones.
01:35:34.000They're going to be like, we caught it!
01:35:37.000No, no, I'm just doing an impersonation.
01:35:38.000But this is a serious issue because reproductivity of human beings is going down dramatically, so people... So what does that have to do with the kick in the football game?
01:35:46.000Well, we just made a comment about the testosterone issue, and maybe they were crying for real because they were emotional.
01:35:52.000When I read that, I thought they were crying because their careers are now destroyed.
01:35:55.000They're now losers on a losing team because of this PR stunt to put a woman on the team.
01:35:59.000Maybe you're not familiar with this, but there was some Chicago White Sox owner who had his team send out a six-year-old or something to bat in a baseball game.
01:37:24.000The reason I want to talk about this is because I said, I think like three years ago, when like a lot of video game and movie stuff was happening, I said it's only a matter of time before they just change the rules to mandate women in major league sports.
01:38:03.000Well, I said back then that it's only a matter of time before there are diversity demands in major league sports.
01:38:10.000If the rules can be changed by people, then there's no reason they can't have a rule saying, the easiest way to get women in major league sports is just to mandate that they're there.
01:40:41.000They will be doing it, and you're calling it out, and we're gonna see in a few months, maybe even a few years, just these kind of patronizing representation of, here we are, we're all equal, we're all the same, everyone gets an award.
01:40:53.000I don't know, I mean, you might end up, it might be a bridge too far, right?
01:40:57.000You get the sense that people were able to do a lot of things.
01:41:00.000I want you to think about this, like, I wonder how long the mass kneeling would have lasted in a world where the crowds were still at the arenas, right, after George Floyd.
01:41:07.000There's a sense where they could get away with it because there was no audience to boo.
01:41:10.000I wonder how long people would do that if there was systematic booing.
01:41:13.000Well, look what happened to the NBA and their record low ratings with them politicizing this and literally putting Black Lives Matter on the basketball court.
01:41:27.000Well, I watched one game and it was just during the timeouts during the interviews, any kind of patronizing any kind of virtual signal they could put out they put out there as much as they could.
01:41:36.000So what you're saying I think is going to come true.
01:41:39.000It's only going to be a matter of time and it's trendy.
01:43:46.000I mean, the question from the Supreme Court's perspective is not how many states agree that we should sue here, but do we want I mean, think about, from their perspective, right now there are election contests in states and this litigation is handled elsewhere.
01:44:00.000Do they really want to be the court of first resort for states that are upset about election results?
01:44:06.000No, but what if they have secretly their own self-preservation at heart?
01:44:10.000They know that the court will get packed and they'll lose all their legitimacy and become a legislative body and then eventually they'll say, we vote for the Supreme Court justices.
01:44:16.000I just don't think they're... I've been around long enough to see when the Supreme Court decides they don't want to hear cases and they don't have to, they end up not.
01:44:26.000That said, I could be wrong here because there's three justices who might end up agreeing with Alito and Thomas.
01:44:31.000Um, that we haven't heard from on the issue of whether or not they think it's actually mandatory for them to take these cases.
01:44:36.000Wait, Alito and Thomas do think it's mandatory?
01:44:37.000Yeah, Alito and Thomas think it's mandatory, but for a long time, the majority has said it's discretionary.
01:44:42.000And I mean, that's, that's a practical thing, too.
01:44:43.000So you would, you would, so you have Alito and Thomas, if potentially Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, then you would need... And Gorsuch, yeah.
01:44:52.000The three, you don't know their opinions, and if they do agree...
01:44:56.000Yeah, but I mean, if they agree, there's a lot of reasons for them to not want to agree, because, you know, they've just invited a whole slew of leaders they don't want.
01:45:12.000No, you know that meme where, you've seen the meme where Clarence Thomas' eyes are glowing and it says, I've been waiting 30 years for this moment, Mr. Biden, or whatever?
01:45:19.000I was like, I think Clarence Thomas is of sound mind and integrity and maturity that he would not have that... He doesn't... These are some of the most, you know, people of highest integrity and merit.
01:45:33.000I don't see them being like, I have a personal grudge to fulfill and I've been waiting 30 years and I'm going to use the court to get it.
01:45:38.000That doesn't sound like... That's not how it works.
01:45:40.000That's not how they want to do their jobs.
01:45:42.000Maybe though, I mean, I saw that look on Kavanaugh's face and remember what he said?
01:45:56.000But I mean, there's just an ethos to judging that a lot of these judges have, which is they take pride in applying the law as written.
01:46:03.000And doing it better than other people and in a more fair way.
01:46:06.000It's almost like law is a kind of, it's almost like a kind of game or puzzle that you're trying to like, you know, and the legal problems are puzzles you're trying to elegantly solve.
01:46:15.000And it's hard to escape from that to do something so radical.
01:46:18.000William Martinez says, according to Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis, it isn't rejected.
01:46:22.000They only rejected the emergency injunction relief.
01:46:26.000Basically, the idea is, if they don't put, if they don't agree with the injunction now, then what relief could they possibly give if the lawsuit can't do anything anymore?
01:46:35.000There's a reason they filed the emergency injunctive relief.
01:46:39.000The fact that you had unanimous denial of that without a dissent is a real, I mean, it's just a really bad sign for the underlying litigation.
01:46:47.000And I think that in a world where they really did think that the Pennsylvania plaintiffs would prevail, they would be inclined to grant that relief.
01:46:55.000So these are superchats from a while ago.
01:46:57.000Ziggy says, Lawsuit was dismissed because of Texas lawsuit.
01:47:00.000Also, seven more states just joined Texas lawsuit.
01:47:23.000But it's like the idea that the Supreme Court would dismiss one case in order because Texas filed a lawsuit that is a type of lawsuit that is very narrowly circumscribed to these like water rights type cases.
01:47:35.000A lot of people are saying seven other states just joined.
01:47:41.000That said, again, I do say that I'm more optimistic about this than I have been about other things, just because instead of having like six or seven independent procedural bars to hearing the case, there's just this one thing.
01:47:52.000And so if the court gets over this one thing, they could hear it.
01:47:57.000I think you're just a negative Nancy Will, and you just hate Trump.
01:48:04.000Everybody's like... Maybe I should just put my brain in a bowl of warm water and forget for the next, like, weeks.
01:48:10.000Well, no, it is funny, though, because it's like when I'm reading legal analysis on Twitter, the right-wing opinions are always like, here's why Trump is gonna win, and the left is always like, this is why Trump's gonna lose.
01:48:20.000And then there's a tendency so far for Trump only had a few lawsuits, and then you had a bunch of other lawsuits from other people.
01:48:26.000These leftist legal opinions are always like, oh, that's Trump down 40 now, and it's like Trump didn't actually file all those lawsuits.
01:48:33.000He can't control those people, so they're really trying to ham it up.
01:48:35.000But then in certain, you know, you get the point, right?
01:48:39.000Yeah, and I mean, you can't help when somebody files a lawsuit that's terrible, and it gets thrown out on jurisdictional grounds.
01:48:46.000Mike Hunt, uh, I almost read it, I almost read it, you're gonna get me in trouble.
01:48:50.000Mr. Hunt, first name, Mike, says, watch Viva Frey's video on the Texas lawsuit, we will win.
01:48:57.000Well, I don't know, Viva Frey, he's a famous... I respect Viva Frey.
01:49:22.000If you came out and said, Hi, I'm a respectable lawyer and I run a publication and my clear legal analysis suggests that Donald Trump is guaranteed victory.
01:49:34.000Harmeet Dhillon tweeted out from, you know, Lin Wood said that Raffensperger and Kemper are going to prison or whatever and she said, this is bat ass.
01:49:52.000The commander says, a war against China won't be hopeless.
01:49:55.000Look up Binkov's Battleground episodes of Taiwan vs. China.
01:49:59.000The Marines are currently training new missile crews and putting them in ships in reserve to contain them to the China Sea and counter their island building.
01:51:05.000See, people... I have a random bit on this.
01:51:08.000People seem to think that... Everybody said, you know, gender is not, like, in the current thing, is not a new... It's a new word.
01:51:16.000You know, before 1960s, gender only referred to how it is used in languages.
01:51:20.000And then the 1960s, people realized, hey, we want a word that is distinct from, like, biological sex to refer to sort of archetypes of behavior among males and females.
01:51:29.000So let's call it gender and let's make it that thing.
01:51:32.000And then 30 years later, that's like, hey, did you know that gender is a social construction?
01:51:36.000I'm like, yes, that's why it was invented.
01:51:38.000But now they're saying sex is a social social construct.
01:51:42.000So I put out a tweet that was meant to be just like general support for Elliot Page.
01:51:57.000So I'm totally cool with Sure, I mean, there's also like a basic kindness, like call people what they want to be called.
01:52:02.000Saying Elliot Page is female is transphobic, and people were like reporting me like crazy, and quote-tweeting saying, why won't Twitter ban him?
01:52:10.000Because I said a basic fact with respect.
01:52:13.000The point I was making was that even though Elliot Page is a female, Elliot Page is asking for respect, and I think Elliot is cool, so I'll grant that respect.
01:53:24.000Yeah, and I mean, it's like, that's why, I mean, and so this isn't like an amicus brief.
01:53:29.000This is like, oh, well states, apparently under this theory, states can sue other states if they don't enforce their election laws properly.
01:53:36.000I mean it makes sense. It makes sense but then you also kind of see like shouldn't this be like
01:53:40.000an amicus brief in a case where that is not like straight to the Supreme Court and instead you know
01:53:46.000there's like election contest procedures. They waited the very last day for the safe harbor
01:53:50.000deadline too. Are they gonna get the Supreme Court might just be like. I mean the there was one thing
01:53:55.000I thought the briefing was generally not bad.
01:54:09.000So the Solicitor General of any state is the person who handles all their appellate litigation, Supreme Court stuff, and the appellate litigation in their own state.
01:54:16.000And they're usually a person who is often a former Supreme Court clerk, etc., and they're in charge of that.
01:54:22.000And if they're not willing to sign on, it's like, That's not a good sign.
01:54:25.000But I'm saying, after everything we've seen with the conflict, the chaos, the fighting, the street battles, the tensions reaching the Supreme Court, now you have a bunch of states suing other states.
01:54:35.000Whether or not these states actually mean it, the regular people are seeing this, and Trump supporters are agreeing with it, and we're being pushed towards the most extreme outcome.
01:55:12.000No, but think about the potential outcomes of where we're at now.
01:55:16.000If it is true that we are slowly being eroded by just feckless politicians who are selling us out for over a long time, then regaining control in some capacity, there's a net positive.
01:55:29.000There's nothing as clearly as moral as slavery in this instance, however.
01:55:33.000I think the threat of a foreign power is serious, but Civil War, you know, brought about the end of slavery.
01:55:38.000I mean, that's just... At the end of the day, I think, like, the other states realize that it's an obvious PR exercise to, like, sign on to a lawsuit that their constituents want them to sign on to.
01:55:46.000I understand that, but think about what that means to the regular people of their state.
01:55:49.000How many people do you think started polishing their guns when they heard eight states are now supporting the suit?
01:55:53.000Yeah, no, that's something to worry about.
01:55:56.000And also probably a reason that they would deny cert again, right?
01:56:00.000Like, that they would deny a motion They'd be like we don't want this we don't want a massive state-on-state battle when you're talking about I think I think that's what they would create if eight states are saying we demand to be heard and the Supreme Court says no Then regular people are gonna say are you kidding me?
01:56:15.000If eight states can't get Listened to in the federal courts and we've seen the evidence and they won't give us the time of day People are gonna their heads are gonna explode.
01:56:24.000No, that's that's I think the smartest thing would be the Supreme Court actually hearing it and then ruling against it on some, you know, in some capacity.
01:57:09.000That the Supreme Court would say, we're already, you know, we have a bigger case that's going to happen?
01:57:14.000I mean, they would have just gotten the filing by the time they were, I mean, they would have finalized the decision in the last few days.
01:57:19.000They wouldn't have known about this filing.
01:57:20.000They would have just gotten the filing.
01:57:21.000They barely reviewed the briefing, have not reviewed any opposition briefing or even thought about it.
01:57:26.000I think the fact that this many states have lined up is signaling to the people of this country that the divisions are as extreme as they could possibly be.
01:58:52.000Look, I'm at a point where I'm like, we see what's going on with the Chinese infiltration and this guy bragging about Biden being in the back pocket.
01:59:09.000I mean, and hopefully it's, I mean, it's the same sort of talk that was like, I mean, the Democrats were pushing that Trump was a Russian agent for so, you know, a long time.
01:59:17.000This seems like kind of the analog of that.
01:59:19.000Like, you know, I don't think, I don't think Democrats, I mean, there were anarchist Democrats, but I don't know the Democrats were talking about a complete revolution in the streets.
01:59:27.000So they were talking about resistance obnoxiously.
02:01:47.000Because, you know, especially in a world where we're so polarized.
02:01:49.000I remember tweeting something along the lines of, isn't it a wonderful time to be experimenting with It's entirely possible that throughout the show we are talking about nonsense because people were getting the news while we weren't, but someone says SCOTUS has voted 6-3 to hear the Texas lawsuit.
02:05:21.000Like, that's also happened a lot, where, I mean, everybody's been really excited about, like, the motions they've granted are, like, the motions for expedited review.
02:05:28.000And they've been like, we won a victory!
02:05:30.000We won the right to have our case dismissed really soon, as opposed to later on.
02:05:34.000Is it, is it possible that what's going on is everyone's kind of agreed, we've got to string the Trump supporters along just enough so that they run out of steam?
02:05:42.000Because on election night, they're all riled up, right?
02:05:44.000And if Biden won outright, people would explode immediately.
02:05:47.000But drag it out as long as possible, get their hopes up and then bring them down and hopes up, then bring them down and slowly get to the point where they lost.
02:06:46.000It says, If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace.
02:08:25.000Donnie Mason says, the left was absolutely talking revolution in the streets.
02:08:29.000What else would you call no justice, no peace, defunding the police, and nationwide riots?
02:08:33.000Um, well, I'm not so sure about that, but I remember when they were chanting, revolution, nothing less, I'm pretty sure that implied they wanted revolution.
02:08:40.000Right, I was trying to distinguish between like the Antifa lefties and the sort of Russia truthers.
02:08:47.000In a weird way it was like a more bizarre theory like at least like the sort of Antifa revolution the streets like there's a coherence to it this theory that our billionaire real estate magnate turned president was really a secret Russian nation.
02:08:58.000It was a fun idea because like living in a movie you know but life is more boring than that.
02:09:03.000Jacob Jones says, Gandalf quote to Frodo lamenting bad times, quote, So do I and so do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide.
02:09:12.000All we have to decide is what we do with this time that is given us.
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