On this week's episode of the podcast, we discuss the death of Breonna Taylor, the Supreme Court ruling on the Black Lives Matter case, and the ongoing investigation into the shooting of a black woman in a no-knock raid.
00:00:16.000a preemptive state of emergency was declared in Louisville Kentucky because
00:00:42.000the AG is about to release information on whether or not the police who killed
00:00:47.000Breonna Taylor will be indicted The story's rather complicated, but for those that aren't familiar, it was a no-knock raid.
00:00:53.000They had a warrant, but they didn't have to knock, so they went in, and they got shot at first.
00:00:58.000They fired back and they killed Breonna Taylor and this led to, it's a huge controversy.
00:01:03.000The officers, I believe a couple have been placed on administrative leave, one has been fired, but now we're awaiting the decision as to whether or not they will be indicted.
00:01:11.000And I think the reaction from the local jurisdiction, which is state of emergency, and a warning locking down the downtown area, blocking parking, I think we know exactly what's going to happen.
00:01:23.000So we're going to talk all about this stuff.
00:01:27.000I guess my warning to all of you is that we are in a new studio.
00:01:31.000We have not yet installed the legit internet, so we are experiencing technical difficulties.
00:03:03.000I know, this is literally white privilege.
00:03:05.000So, there's a bunch of other stories, too.
00:03:07.000Actually, one of the officers involved, he's speaking out, saying that the good guys are being demonized and the bad guys are being, what do you say, canonized.
00:03:18.000Well, no, I honestly think canonized is the right word because there's this sort of cult that's built up around every single person who's killed in a police shooting.
00:03:26.000And part of the reason it's so complicated and really depressing is the cases we hear about from Black Lives Matter are sometimes a very clear and obvious example of police misconduct, and sometimes they are a very clear and obvious example of a police officer being justified, but they're all treated the same by one side of the political aisle.
00:03:42.000But before we get into everything, there's a bunch of stories.
00:04:58.000I think what they're going to do is they're going to put a mask on Joe, like a coronavirus mask, and then they're going to have an impersonator speaking through a microphone.
00:05:04.000You won't be able to see Joe's mouth moving, so they'll be able to pass it off as though he's saying whatever.
00:05:08.000Joe's going to get involved in like a deep French fry deep fryer accident at a McDonald's, and he's going to be wearing like full body bandages.
00:05:15.000And then it's you know, it's gonna you sound awfully young today Joe.
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00:05:32.000We are currently in the secret bunker in the middle of nowhere It is like no road, there's like no lights, because the riots are getting really, really bad.
00:05:52.000The cop who shot Breonna Taylor's boyfriend emails colleagues to say the good guys are demonized and the criminals are canonized as Louisville braces for AG's decision on whether to charge him and other officers over her death.
00:06:05.000Sergeant Jonathan Mattingly wrote an email to more than 1,000 police officers Tuesday.
00:06:09.000In an email, he defended his actions and the actions of the other officers on March 13th when Brenda Taylor, 26, was shot dead after the cops entered her apartment.
00:06:18.000Mattingly said that Louisville Mayor Greg Fischer and top police officials had failed all of us in epic proportions.
00:06:24.000He also claimed that he's proof the city officials do not care about police.
00:06:28.000Kentucky AG Daniel Cameron said he will soon decide whether charges will be brought against Mattingly and two other officers involved in the shooting, and I think we all know exactly what's going to happen.
00:06:38.000They've declared a preemptive state of emergency.
00:06:40.000They've apparently shut down the downtown area.
00:06:42.000No parking, no parking garages or whatever.
00:06:48.000Yeah, I think they know there's not going to be an indictment.
00:06:51.000Yeah, well, so I'm not really familiar with the specifics of the Breonna Taylor case, but what I can say, which is, I think, something most Americans would have observed by this point, and it's really sad, is that it kind of doesn't matter what the facts are.
00:07:03.000Black Lives Matter is going to lose their mind as long as there isn't an indictment.
00:07:06.000I mean, we know that there was a mob that, like, surrounded and attacked Rand Paul for not saying her name, even though he wrote the bill named after her.
00:07:12.000So it just seems as if— Which would ban no-knock raids.
00:07:14.000Which would ban—and I am not a fan of no-knock raids either, so I'm sympathetic.
00:07:18.000Towards her cause but I don't know as much about the specifics of the story as I'd like to I'm just commenting on the fact that We have seen based on the Michael Brown case for example that it doesn't actually matter if the person's innocent or not And so BLM has lost all of their credibility Which is really unfortunate because it would be good to have an advocacy movement for people who are brutalized or unjustly killed by the police Oh, yeah.
00:07:35.000Yeah, you know, honestly, I don't know much about this either Tim Can you give us like a brief overview about the Breanna Taylor thing?
00:07:40.000I heard she was involved in a drug some kind of drug deal Well, no, no, that, so, I mean, this, depending on who you ask, you're gonna hear different stories, but, uh, the general understanding I got from reading it is they were investigating, like, this house because I guess there was, like, a drug dealer who had parked in front of it or something like that.
00:07:56.000I'm probably getting it all wrong, so forgive me, fact-check me.
00:07:59.000Basically, they had a, they had a, they had a no-knock warrant.
00:08:19.000And so now they're saying arrest the cops because the cops are criminals, and I'm kind of like, dude, if you say to someone, go do a thing, and then they go and do it, you can't then accuse them of being a criminal.
00:08:32.000So if you want to argue that the system is broken, well then, I look to Rand Paul, and Rand Paul is saying, you know, we're gonna ban no-knock raids, because that was the problem.
00:08:43.000I think there's an argument to be made, and this is probably the argument they're making, that the orders that those police officers followed were unjust orders, because you shouldn't just bang somebody's door down without them knowing who you are when you're fully armed.
00:08:56.000But I do agree that it's a systemic problem, and I'm glad to see people like Rand Paul actually attempting to solve it, even if they're not getting the necessary or deserved credit for it.
00:09:04.000Yeah, if a cop busts into a house, especially the wrong house, and the guy's armed, and the guy shoots the cop, no one's at fault.
00:09:11.000I mean, if anything, the police organization was at fault for banging into the wrong house.
00:09:15.000Yeah, but if the system is designed to function that way, and the cops are like, okay, we ask cops to do this job.
00:09:22.000We say, we've set up rules, we want you to do this thing.
00:09:25.000Then part of that system that we've created is, kick the door and go into the house and stop the criminal, and it turns out they got the wrong house or something, but they had a warrant, No.
00:10:12.000Because that's the country we live in.
00:10:13.000That's the country we kind of decided we wanted to live in for whatever reason.
00:10:15.000This has not been thoroughly condemned enough.
00:10:19.000People aren't really... Like, the media has been calling it this justified outrage ever since the Michael Brown riots.
00:10:23.000Now they word it a little bit differently, but they say, like, riots are the language of the unheard, despite the fact that these riots disproportionately hurt the kinds of communities that the left claims to be advocating for.
00:12:49.000Whether or not it's intentional, you also get the idea that with something like social workers.
00:12:52.000I mean, who are the social workers going to be most often used for?
00:12:55.000Probably people in areas where there isn't violent crime.
00:12:58.000You're only going to send a social worker out if there's a dispute somebody wants settled that shouldn't require the use of a gun.
00:13:02.000So you're not going to be calling social workers when somebody breaks into somebody's house or when somebody's threatening to kill somebody or threatening to rape them.
00:13:07.000You're going to call social workers when there are much more peaceful disputes between neighbors that need to be settled, which I would agree police should not be involved with.
00:13:13.000But that means, in parts of the country, that are more socio-economically advantaged, there's going to be another tier of policing where they're mostly going to get all of the social workers and the impoverished communities are just going to get the regular old police anyway.
00:13:25.000So we're just going to make a two-tier system.
00:13:27.000So when they talk about defunding the police, they keep saying things like, we're going to have social workers who come out and help people.
00:13:34.000Okay, what are these social workers empowered to do?
00:14:33.000They get tasers, they get pepper spray.
00:14:34.000And so now they have like a Batman utility belt.
00:14:36.000They walk around with these different options and they have to be aware.
00:14:39.000There have been instances where they've gone for their taser, but grabbed their gun on accident because it's like a split second and they panic.
00:14:44.000There was that viral incident years ago where this dude, I don't remember the guy's name, he was being arrested.
00:14:51.000It was a BART station, which is the Bay Area Rapid Transit, I think it's called.
00:14:56.000And they pinned this guy down and they were like, tase him!
00:14:59.000And the guy pulls out his gun and puts it in his back and pulls the trigger right away.
00:15:06.000So these problems have happened, and we talk about defunding the police, and we talk about bringing in social workers, and then what do we get?
00:15:12.000You can watch any one of these videos where... Did you see the video that went viral where the guy has a knife and he's approaching the cop?
00:16:32.000And I love, you see the video in Milwaukee where they went to the guy's house and were like harassing him for hours and then he brandished a shotgun.
00:16:39.000Then they went to the police and they snitch on the guy.
00:16:42.000And then the cops come and they'll start cheering for the police.
00:17:01.000You know, I wonder how long it's going to take for the left to start talking about gun control again, too.
00:17:05.000They kind of tried after the Kyle Rittenhouse thing a little bit, but I think they knew it wasn't going to fly just because of how obvious it is you need to be armed.
00:17:41.000It's not just the fact that it's going to become impossible to regulate firearm ownership and production.
00:17:44.000It's the fact that people now see the importance of owning a weapon.
00:17:48.000They see how dangerous things have gotten and the fact that mobs are not very nice and they form very readily in this country at this point in time.
00:17:53.000And they're often justified and apologized for by the media.
00:19:03.000It is a terrorist- yeah, he just has this like crazy radical political view he's advocating for with violence, which is do not attack me on the streets.
00:19:23.000The story was literally they went to someone's house who had an American flag and screamed they were going to burn their house down unless they remove the flag right now.
00:19:30.000They said, we will come back and burn your house down.
00:19:32.000And I'm just like, a peaceful protest became confrontational today when they threatened to burn down the home of somebody who had an American flag.
00:19:39.000Wait, what was the exact wording again?
00:19:41.000A slightly more confrontational approach?
00:19:44.000They called it a confrontational approach or something like that.
00:20:36.000So, but violent, you know, there's difference between confronting someone in combat, you know, being combative and being confrontational are completely different.
00:20:44.000You can be diplomatically confrontational.
00:20:46.000You can confront someone without threatening to burn their house down.
00:20:49.000Do you guys remember when Greta Thunberg said she wanted to put the politicians up against the wall?
00:21:59.000She came out and immediately apologized.
00:22:00.000You know, the first thing I did was I reached out to someone who was fluent in Swedish and I said, what does it mean to put someone against the wall?
00:22:05.000And he says, to hold them accountable.
00:22:12.000It's like, you know, it's like when you're, when you're yelling at someone and you push them up against the wall and you're like wagging your finger at them.
00:22:17.000And I kind of feel like, are you downplaying that?
00:22:20.000Does it still come from up against the wall?
00:23:17.000She's tweeted kind of a lot about defunding the police and she like apparently tweeted out a petition telling people like join me in defunding the police and hashtag defund the police and then when a when a when a small teenager was near her neighborhood simply shooting squirrels with an air gun which is kind of weird I mean like that but anyway You didn't do that, Tim?
00:23:38.000You didn't go around killing squirrels in your neighborhood?
00:23:41.000Is an airsoft gun gonna hurt a squirrel?
00:24:40.000I mean people know it's kind of a contextual thing It's like if you were if you were hunting small game in the woods with an air gun That wouldn't be weird, but like I guess he is just going through his neighborhood Like I guess she's shooting squirrels with an air gun is not totally unheard of or like crazy But to do it in your neighborhood is maybe kind of a weird thing to do yeah I don't know if it was in his neighborhood apparently he was like walking around various properties That's pretty weird.
00:25:01.000Yeah, that's pretty weird That's so weird.
00:25:11.000It depends on what kind of air gun we're talking here.
00:25:12.000If it was really obvious it was a toy, then maybe not.
00:25:17.000I definitely understand it, especially if she didn't know the parents.
00:25:19.000But a situation like that can get out of hand.
00:25:21.000And if you're against police intervention in virtually everything, and you think folks need to be solving their problems on their own, obviously there's a bit of hypocrisy there.
00:25:31.000So she has this tweet where when she was talking about defunding the police She posts a photo of an MRAP and she says we've militarized the police.
00:25:38.000Hmm So could it be that I think I agree with that by the way, right I do too I do too.
00:25:44.000So that's why you know, I want to I want to make sure I'm being fair to Alyssa Milano And it's not I I think yeah I think she was justified in calling the cops if she's a high-profile individual and someone's walking around with a weapon Yeah.
00:25:54.000And I think it's not necessarily hypocritical to say that police have been militarized in many areas they shouldn't have been.
00:25:59.000And then to want to call a couple sheriffs to come and deal with someone walking around your property who's armed with a long gun.
00:26:09.000Defund the place because what it sounds like is I don't like the way that guy runs
00:26:13.000So I want to take his shoes away well to punish him and make him and somehow that's gonna make him a better runner
00:26:18.000Well defund the cop right exactly And I think the talking point you used to hear was that we
00:26:23.000need to train the police more properly or better Which is something I would agree with I don't know how that's
00:26:28.000compatible with defunding the police exactly I saw my police one of my best buds
00:26:34.000He's a he's a former police officer, and he also served in the military in both Iraq and Afghanistan
00:26:40.000So he told me, and again this is his experience, this is anecdotal, but I mean he told me based on his experience and how well he was trained with a firearm, most police officers were not that great a shot and didn't train with their handguns often enough.
00:27:14.000There's a scene where the main character, I guess Edward Norton's character, we call him Jack, He's on a plane and he's explaining how he works as like this insurance, like cost prevention or whatever is, I don't know, cost analysis guy.
00:27:26.000He said, if the cost of the lawsuits are less, wait, basically the idea is if lawsuits are more expensive than the actual, or no, They won't recall a car if it kills people, if they can save money.
00:28:05.000So if they're going to train every single cop properly and have them re-up and do all the stuff and they rarely ever use the gun, that seems like a big waste of money for the city.
00:28:14.000Now, if they go off and they have to use it and they fire randomly because they don't know how to actually use it and they hit a bunch of people, how much we got to pay?
00:28:20.000Training all the cops could cost $50 million.
00:28:25.000That's what I'm saying, it's fascinating.
00:28:26.000I can't confirm or deny that, but it's certainly interesting.
00:28:27.000for the police seems to explain it like litigation.
00:28:29.000That's what I'm saying, it's fascinating.
00:28:30.000I can't confirm or deny that, but it's certainly interesting.
00:28:33.000I know that a number of my uncles were police officers on the south side of Chicago.
00:28:40.000And one thing they would complain about was the fact that defense attorneys will also
00:28:44.000tell their clients in many circumstances to just file a complaint against a police officer,
00:28:48.000whether or not it's valid, because it can be easier to get them out of trouble.
00:28:51.000And if you get enough of your clients to accuse enough police officers, then the accusations start to build up and each accusation becomes more credible and it's much easier for you as a defense attorney or a criminal defense attorney to do your job.
00:29:14.000Yeah, so there's a viral tweet where they're talking about the Supreme Court and someone said something like, 25% of the Supreme Court have credible accusations against them.
00:29:23.000Yeah, what does credible mean in this context?
00:29:25.000And I'm like, I accuse you of stealing my orange.
00:31:55.000No, no gang stalking is this paranoid delusion that people have where they think like operatives or agents are always spying on them interesting and they'll think you're a spy they'll like you'll meet them and they'll be like they'll look at you in the back and Are you one of them?
00:32:22.000They think around every corner there's an agent or an operative.
00:32:25.000The New York Times wrote about this, and what's really interesting is that they talk about how after 9-11, this skyrocketed, this view of agents and gang stalking.
00:32:33.000And they used the internet to find like-minded people who experienced the same thing, to form collectives, to take action over a shared delusion.
00:32:42.000Even though they all contradict each other and it seems to make no sense.
00:32:45.000What's interesting about this is that when you take that concept, after 9-11, all these people thought they were being spied on by the government.
00:32:51.000Patriot Act, NSA, all that stuff, right?
00:32:54.000Now you have, in the mainstream media, all this talk about fascists and white supremacists and what do we get?
00:33:03.000It was Jonathan K. of Quillette who tweeted about this and I thought it was really insane.
00:33:07.000I was like, I never thought about that.
00:33:10.000Because they had this woman who was claiming that someone broke into her car and it was clearly a white supremacist who was harassing her and stalking her because she's an activist.
00:33:17.000And tons of other people started tweeting the same things.
00:33:19.000Yes, they're stalking me and harassing me.
00:33:22.000Then you look at what Andy Ngo does, right?
00:33:23.000Andy Ngo covers the people who get arrested.
00:33:48.000There's like, in this country of 328 million, there's estimated, a high estimate is like 11,000, according to like Anti-Defamation League or, you know, some of these organizations.
00:33:58.000So they're not stalking you, but they believe it.
00:34:02.000So you have Antifa targeting people who are unwell, who think these things are true, using them to do things to benefit them, convincing them to commit crimes, convincing them to hurt people, and they go around and they do it.
00:34:15.000They're justified because they all share this delusion.
00:34:18.000So if someone says, I swear Ophatius was following me, me too, then it must be true!
00:34:23.000Isn't that that one guy that killed the dude?
00:35:38.000Ultimately, I think she was just lying.
00:35:40.000I mean, that's a simple solution, right?
00:35:42.000Like, look, Occam's Razor suggests the simple solution tends to be the correct one.
00:35:48.000That's not a law, that's just something people point out.
00:35:51.000It doesn't necessarily mean that in every circumstance you can say it's true, and it doesn't mean he ever actually mathematically tested it, because you can't really.
00:35:57.000But it is an idea that I think most of us agree upon.
00:36:39.000She said that she was at a party at someone's house and Brett Kavanaugh and his friend went upstairs and she went with them and then he pinned her on the bed and jumped on top of her and then she was panicking and then his friend jumped on him and they rolled over and then she got up and ran away.
00:36:56.000Accusations that Brett Kavanaugh was contributing to drugging women and keeping them in rooms where men would line up outside the door, taking turns.
00:37:46.000I know, but if they tried, they would destroy themselves.
00:37:48.000They would totally destroy themselves.
00:37:50.000To be fair on this point too, because I brought it up, Nancy Pelosi was asked by George Stephanopoulos Would you consider impeaching Trump or Bill Barr?
00:37:58.000And then she said, well, you know, we've got a bunch of options.
00:38:00.000And then her brain snapped and she went, good morning?
00:38:02.000But what she should have said is we don't have any reason to impeach him.
00:38:05.000She could have just said, why are you asking?
00:38:47.000So, for those that aren't familiar, Nancy Pelosi was talking, she was asked about impeachment, and then George Stephanopoulos responded, but you're saying you won't take impeachment off the table, and she goes, good morning, Sunday morning.
00:39:03.000We have an obligation to the American people, and people were like, what was that?
00:39:29.000I don't know if I believe that, but I actually don't know how to answer the question.
00:39:32.000I mean, at some point, I don't know if I would put a hard age limit as much as I would say, like, alright, this person is clearly in a position where they're no longer able to govern.
00:39:39.000And it's funny because for years and years and years, this was a punchline all the way through my childhood, right?
00:39:43.000And I was born years after Ronald Reagan had already died.
00:39:47.000There's this joke, oh isn't it so hilarious that Ronald Reagan was going senile at the end of his life and the Republicans had this president who is sort of losing it and slipping in old age and how incompetent are they?
00:39:56.000And then the Democrats like went out of their way and chose to nominate a man whose brain is clearly not functioning properly when they had many other options.
00:40:02.000With Reagan, I've heard that he had some information and they wanted to testify and get it out of him and he didn't want to give up the information so he said that he was going senile and couldn't remember.
00:40:33.000I just know that that was the bit that they always did.
00:40:34.000Everyone always thought it was hilarious that Reagan was slipping and it was just indicative of this grave incompetence on the right side of the political aisle.
00:40:41.000they had a choice in picture old if you're if you're saying that you think
00:40:44.000we're gonna live to be a hundred thirty then what about his lifetime
00:40:46.000appointments for supreme court if we gotta change it's got to change
00:40:49.000they used to live not that long now they live in and i mean this is seventy maybe
00:40:53.000that's that life expectancy has been like relative like only got up a little
00:40:57.000bit desperately have to change the life appointments it should be for you and i
00:41:00.000don't know i i i think that's a it i'm really skeptical of the idea that will be able to
00:41:04.000extend the human life expectancy that long
00:41:07.000And if we do, I think that's a bridge we would really need to cross once we got there.
00:41:10.000For now, I would just say maybe there's something to be said about a person being too incompetent to do the job anymore and you have that discussion.
00:41:16.000I don't know that I would set a heart age limit for it.
00:41:20.000I mean, we haven't heard from Thomas Sowell much lately, but he's certainly getting older and he's just as sharp and brilliant as he's ever been.
00:41:26.000What do you think about term limits for justices?
00:42:37.000I don't know, if we have lifetime appointments under the assumption that, you know, these people will die at some point, we still have the problem of people who become completely incapacitated.
00:42:52.000It's interesting what you're saying about life expectancy, and you sort of alluded to this earlier when you said life expectancy has not significantly grown.
00:43:01.000People will say like, oh, in the past life expectancy was only 30, but obviously that's because there was so much infant mortality changing the average.
00:43:06.000It wasn't out of the ordinary or totally unheard of for a person to live to 80 or 90 or even 100, but it is out of the ordinary for a person now to live to like 130, 140.
00:43:14.000In fact, I don't think anyone's ever lived that long, so that's why I'm skeptical that our medical technology will ever get us to the point where that's possible.
00:43:20.000Have you heard of nicotinamide mononucleotide?
00:43:23.000NMN, you can get it, you can buy it, and you take it with resveratrol, which is the active chemical in like red wine and like purple vegetables, you know, eggplant.
00:43:32.000It causes the telomeres, telomeres, I'm I'm not sure.
00:44:02.000As you get older, this sirtuin too, SIRT2, starts to degrade.
00:44:06.000But with NMN, nicotinamide mononucleotide, and other chemicals, they keep pumping the SIRT2, your body keeps making the sirtuins.
00:44:13.000So you basically don't get older, is the idea.
00:44:15.000So what you're saying is, uh, we should all get blood transfusions from young people who do nothing but eat healthy and work out at the gym?
00:45:09.000Mitt Romney, I guess, is kind of pulling back a little bit.
00:45:11.000He said he's not going to promise Trump he's going to give him the vote he needs, even though he said he was going to vote to confirm whoever.
00:45:17.000But you think, I guess everyone's saying it's going to be Amy Coney Barrett.
00:45:21.000And the concern is that she is a devout Catholic.
00:45:24.000And so the left is... Concerned for whom, sir?
00:45:27.000Well, the left is concerned for themselves.
00:45:32.000Well, and we talked about this a little bit earlier, but she's also a constitutional originalist.
00:45:35.000So they're saying she's going to, like, implement this radically Catholic interpretation of the Constitution when she herself has said she actually just wants to look back to what the Founding Fathers initially intended.
00:45:44.000Because that is the job of Supreme Court justice.
00:45:47.000We were talking with, I think it was Colin Wright, and I hope I'm not putting words in his mouth because maybe I'm misremembering.
00:45:53.000But he said something like he would prefer kids learned creationism over the social justice stuff.
00:45:57.000And so I'm like, well, now you got a liberal who's going to be in favor of a devout Catholic Supreme Court justice because of the potential that you get a hard left identitarian cultist.
00:46:06.000Oh yeah, but you don't want the worst of two things.
00:46:17.000Part of the reason that you know Joe Biden is not a practicing Catholic is because the media has never called him a religious extremist, which is what they always do when you follow the most basic tenets of the Catholic faith.
00:46:26.000I mean, she's pro-life and she doesn't want Catholic companies to be forced to pay for abortifacients, which I think, or birth control, which I think is like pretty straightforward.
00:47:38.000And I would even say it's not even so much like the way that we're formed, because as we were talking about this a little bit earlier, but there are certain resources that we've been depleting, I suppose, like fossil fuels.
00:47:49.000But as the population has increased, global poverty has decreased.
00:47:53.000It's not as if there's been this fierce competition for resources with each new mouth because every single person is also an asset.
00:48:00.000I mean people create things and they tend to create more than they themselves will need and so it passes on to everybody else.
00:48:06.000But so we were talking about this, too.
00:48:08.000I think we will eventually have an overpopulation problem.
00:48:12.000If at a certain point, we can't have more people because there's a finite amount of space, you know, and we need a certain amount of space for farming.
00:48:19.000We were I've been looking at like how to grow certain like crops and like in a garden.
00:48:24.000I'm not talking about starting a farm or anything like that.
00:48:26.000And they talk about, like, the certain amount of acreage you need and stuff.
00:48:28.000So clearly there's a mathematical formula for how many people can exist with how much farmland you have.
00:48:59.000But the way boats work in the ocean, you have a hollow to basically a hollow circle that floats in the water because it's lighter than the water.
00:49:07.000So if you had a hollow circle in the air, that's lighter than the air, basically a vacuum.
00:50:01.000Have you seen- If you see that big gash on Mars, it's like hundreds of thousands of miles long.
00:50:05.000It looks like some planetoid hit Mars and scraped across it and ripped it open so all the iron spewed out of it into the magma and that's why it settled as iron oxide dust all over the surface of the planet.
00:50:53.000So like I'm imagining it's like really funny they're like this like watching this myth like this nuke just like it narrowly misses and then I can imagine a song like Spanish Flea playing is it like from a hundred million years is just drifting aimlessly and then finally reaches this ridiculously intelligent advanced species with interstellar travel but they've they've lost the ability to enter like to stop this because oh my god it's like what do we do it's like I don't know!
00:51:17.000We haven't dealt with nukes in, like, 5,000 years!
00:51:19.000And then it, like, blows up one of their colonies.
00:51:36.000What actually happens is, if it's just traveling physically through space, and eventually we discover interstellar travel, like wormholes and stuff, It hits us.
00:51:43.000Yeah, I was gonna say, what if the universe is just repeating like Pac-Man?
00:51:47.000You get to one end, and it comes back the other way, and then... I think it is.
00:51:50.000The snook just comes back and hits us.
00:51:53.000I don't mean that, but I mean like... No, I know.
00:51:55.000This is something really, really... We're gonna get into sci-fi, I guess.
00:51:57.000We got so much political stuff to talk about, but I want to talk about it.
00:52:00.000If, uh, I was, like, watching Star Trek and stuff and seeing them, you know, or not even that, like, Battlestar Galactica, where they travel great distances.
00:52:08.000If a group of people right now went on, say, Elon Musk's spaceship to Mars, or maybe not Mars, maybe they're gonna go to, like, Alpha Centauri or some planet very, very far away.
00:52:18.000And like it's going to be a hundred year journey.
00:52:21.000They'd be like 50 years in and we'd catch up and be like, look at those old people.
00:52:35.000We found a way to get there so quickly that we got there before we left?
00:52:38.000Because the people that left Earth 100 million years ago, their technology is... or 30,000 years ago, they've advanced so much more quickly than us that they're already there waiting for us.
00:52:46.000The people that left Earth 30... Yeah, 20,000 years ago.
00:52:54.000What I'm saying is, if right now, a ship left, and then it's like a hundred years out, and then we have better technology, and then we're faster, or if the people on the ship have better technology... They'd be so embarrassed, dude.
00:53:06.000They'd be like, oh man, I just wasted my life.
00:53:09.000They would land on, like, this ridiculously developed place, and they would be, like, super archaic and anachronistic.
00:53:16.000Well, what we would have to do is just make them feel better by not letting them know that we beat them there, and just making some part of the planet look like it's completely un-terraformed.
00:53:25.000Like, yeah, no, you guys are the first to get there, good for you!
00:53:28.000Part of why, when we colonize Mars, it's gonna be like the Internet's so important because if they develop at a different rate than the people on Earth, I think there could be mass chaos, intergalactic chaos between two, you know, Martians.
00:54:03.000And they're like, we were from the year 2200 and it's what year?
00:54:08.000The other big problem that no one really talks about is that The solar system itself is moving, the planets are moving, and time dilation, right?
00:54:17.000So if you're on this planet that's traveling a certain amount of kilometers per hour with the whole solar system, the planet's spinning a certain amount of kilometers an hour, and then you travel to another planet that's going much, much slower or faster.
00:54:28.000Wouldn't you then experience time living on that planet very differently to Earth?
00:56:00.000But then when you really think about it, that's sort of novel to us, but historically, stranger things have happened than Donald Trump becoming president.
00:56:05.000Though that was, let me tell you, that night.
00:56:18.000My brother tells this story that he called me.
00:56:19.000I was literally laughing hysterically just because I thought it was silly.
00:56:21.000There was not a single angle I could examine it from that was not really, really funny.
00:56:25.000There was this woman who's just unbelievably crooked and has all of the traits that make a really savvy and unscrupulous politician, has spent her entire life striving for one single political position.
00:56:37.000And then this one guy wakes up one morning and he's like, I could be president.
00:57:10.000It's so funny And then I guess Hillary didn't come out John Podesta was like we're gonna go to bed We'll be back and then there was no like yeah Talk about the salt mines that day.
00:57:23.000Oh my goodness Yes, you were Well, so the one regret I really have from my college experience is that I did not have any classes scheduled the day after the election took place, and my friends did.
00:57:35.000And from what they said, there were kids crying in class.
00:57:37.000One of my friends at a teaching assistant started tearing up as they were explaining the situation.
00:57:42.000One friend sent me a Snapchat of a student under a desk crying.
00:59:57.000I mean, look, you had Nancy Pelosi saying we should all go eat dinner in Chinatown.
01:00:00.000I think what did what didn't Joe Biden say that Trump's ban from from China was I don't know if he used the word xenophobic but he didn't say the ban was he said he said something like we need real leadership not Trump's xenophobia okay yeah yeah so I don't think anybody really handled it properly but that said Trump is the president so you like he does have a special responsibility here But what could he do?
01:00:47.000Yeah, the president is not supposed to get involved with everything.
01:00:49.000Now that said, I understand the arguments that he should have been more involved in some ways with COVID-19, but it's all really, really complicated.
01:00:57.000And so that's why I'm saying I certainly don't blame him for it.
01:00:59.000But I think that it's going to be easy to use that against him in the media, though whatever advantage they may have had, they've been doing everything they can to destroy by advocating for and apologizing for these riots and protests.
01:01:10.000What do you think Trump could have done better?
01:01:55.000And then, I don't know if you saw this, but there was a camera, I think it was Nevada that released the data about COVID deaths.
01:02:01.000Some of the people who had died with COVID had, like, end-stage renal failure.
01:02:05.000And so people are pointing out, if you want to know how we got to 200,000 dead, you need to understand that some of these people were really close to death as it was.
01:02:13.000It is true that COVID caused it, but if you're someone with, like, end-stage renal failure, and you're on your deathbed, and then you get COVID, you're gonna die.
01:02:23.000I think what's going to have to be done, and I'm sure somebody's already thought of this or is working on this, but at the end of the year, at the end of the next two years, they're really going to need to compile some data on net deaths, like how many people died overall in this past year as compared to the average.
01:02:39.000And then we can see how many of these COVID cases were just COVID versus people who are going to die of other diseases anyway.
01:02:44.000Exacerbation, I think, is a better word than cause, because if someone with end-stage renal failure gets COVID, it exacerbates the renal failure.
01:03:26.000I came back several months later and the sticker was gone.
01:03:29.000There is semblance of intelligence in even the most whack, you know, not that they're the most whack, but I think people when faced with the truth or like the reality of the situation sometimes can see that Trump's not a demon.
01:04:28.000Yeah, I know that Boeing profited like five hundred- But at least he said it.
01:04:30.000Yeah, and I know that what, Boeing profited like $500 billion servicing the F-12s that the Saudi Arabian government is using, which are sometimes used to bomb like fishing boats and fog.
01:05:34.000Like, I used to complain about the expansion of executive authority, but the reality was Congress just giving the power and just agreeing.
01:05:41.000But now that we have this psychotic, you know, two years of Democrat impeach screech and get nothing done, now you can really see how they've screwed up Trump's plans every which way constantly.
01:05:52.000They won't confirm, you know, his appointees and things like that.
01:05:54.000So, you know, his staff has been, I think it's like a historically thin staff because they won't confirm a lot of people he's trying to put on.
01:06:02.000But I look at what they do, and what Trump wanted to do, and how they're jamming him up to an absurd degree, and I'm like, you know, part of me, I'm kind of like, I like the idea that the executive branch is kind of getting some comeuppance and getting their power pulled back, but it's a little bit too much.
01:06:18.000It's one thing to be like, handle something should be the one handling it, and we should only go up to, um, A higher, more powerful, or centralized authority, if we absolutely have to.
01:06:28.000But that's not what we've done in this country, man.
01:06:30.000Over the past hundred years, so much has become federalized.
01:06:36.000And the idea of a public school system is actually really insane to me, the more that I think about it.
01:06:39.000Something you take for granted growing up, but the idea that we just sort of let the government raise our kids.
01:06:44.000It's kind of unthinkable, especially in the United States.
01:06:46.000I mean, I'm not in favor of either of these systems, but in some ways, I think you could argue that a universal health care system or the government being in charge of health care would be more appropriate to the American vision than the government being in charge of educating everyone's children.
01:06:58.000It's showing now, too, with COVID being—just the weirdness of kids having to wear masks and etc.
01:07:03.000No, no, no, it's the kids in cubicles, like, they've spaced all the chairs out and then put them in these plastic bins.
01:07:10.000I'm becoming more of a proponent of homeschooling over time, and it's not just because the evidence has really borne out the fact that homeschooling kids tend to perform better, but it's the fact that when you really examine the situation, we don't even have to look at this through the metric of efficiency, we just have to say, is making a child sit in a desk for six to eight hours a day throughout their entire childhood a good thing to do to somebody?
01:08:05.000There are places that kids can go if they're smarter or dumber than other kids, but, you know, for the most part, you just go to public school.
01:09:01.000So I often ask people, if you want to figure out what you want to do with the rest of your life, ask yourself what you were doing at a certain age.
01:09:07.000Like, what were you doing when you were 13?
01:09:10.000Most people don't have a good answer about what they were doing.
01:09:13.000So I was talking to a friend of mine and I said, what were you doing when you were 13 years old?
01:09:17.000And they responded, I don't know, hanging out with my friends.
01:09:19.000And I was like, you want to open a bar?
01:09:23.000And I'm like, yeah, because you want to hang out with people, you just want to sit around and drink, so open a bar and then people will come and you'll be hanging out, you'll be doing what you did.
01:09:29.000I thought about this because I'm like, I know a bunch of people who went on to become, like, successful in various industries, skateboarding and music, and they've been doing it literally their whole lives.
01:09:40.000I had this really funny thought, like, you know we say it's like riding a bike?
01:09:43.000It's so easy to ride a bike, isn't it?
01:09:45.000No, it's easy because you were like, you know, two or three years old and your parents put you on the bike and then had you ride with training wheels.
01:09:51.000So from your entire existence, we've been taught how to ride bikes.
01:10:37.000And I had, this was before cell phone stuff, I have a book of all my friends' phone numbers and I just go down the list and memorize all the numbers.
01:11:28.000I just I'm just so skeptical of all of that.
01:11:32.000I feel like so many predictions, whenever we make predictions for the future, this is going to sound so, um, this is actually going to sound really, really, uh, how should I put this?
01:12:52.000I just feel like there would be so many unintended consequences and implications to that that I can't even begin to comprehend, that I just can't agree with.
01:13:01.000What I'm afraid of is that other people will plug in and then they'll start doing, like for you for instance, they'd start drawing and so many people would be able to do exactly what you did but better, faster, that you'd fall behind.
01:13:38.000But it's fine because we're gonna, we're gonna, this will be uploaded in, in, in clips the next day and we're gonna get everything fixed by like probably tomorrow.
01:13:44.000We, we were climbing on the roof today laying cables and stuff and we've had... Beautiful.
01:13:48.000It's like, it's, it's, it's giving us IP issues.
01:13:51.000and so it's just causing the internet to cut in and out and uh... but we're gonna
01:13:54.000put up the full podcast on itunes and everything and the clips will be up tomorrow so
01:13:58.000you know what will uh... what will keep talking about stuff about we uh... we jump over to uh...
01:14:03.000bloomberg trying to buy the florida vote may a bloomberg so this next story
01:14:43.000Is this playing dirty or is this the right move?
01:14:46.000Yeah, I mean, it strikes me as playing dirty, but I have obvious biases here.
01:14:48.000I know that he's just trying to get somebody elected who I very much don't like.
01:14:51.000I'm trying to think how I would feel if it was somebody doing that because they thought it would get a Republican elected and if I'd feel any different about it.
01:14:57.000To me, I've become more and more wary of people just using massive amounts of money to try to influence political change.
01:15:03.000But on the other hand, I'm sure if I had billions of dollars, I would probably attempt to do the same thing.
01:15:08.000So it's difficult for me to say one way or the other.
01:15:10.000I'm sorry, I'm being a bit of a fence-sitter here on this one, but it's something I need to give more thought to, because I just heard this story today, so I haven't really had time to fully put together my opinion on it.
01:15:18.000How many right-wing people are dumping tons of money in to do similar things like this, but tell Trump?
01:15:46.000It's just very intellectually fashionable in their circles.
01:15:48.000And it's funny because we know that they said they were not going to, like Disney, for example, wasn't going to film in Georgia anymore because of the heartbeat bill.
01:15:55.000They said they could not in good conscience.
01:15:56.000I believe maybe this was in third exact language, but the idea was they could never film in a state that limited a woman's right to choose to kill an unborn child.
01:16:03.000And then they went and they filmed in China where there are Uyghur concentration camps.
01:16:07.000And thanked the security forces that were enforcing it.
01:16:10.000And some people are saying, oh, well, they're complete hypocrites.
01:16:13.000I think it's even more insidious than that.
01:16:15.000But they believe that they can put economic pressure on Georgia to change its laws.
01:16:42.000It's because China has money and no one in China is going to complain and no one in America is going to complain about China, so they get away with it.
01:16:47.000This is like, everything we're seeing is what happens when there is no check on one political faction.
01:16:55.000So the left controls, they have a monopoly on the culture, so they've gone insane.
01:16:59.000Nothing makes sense, it's all just purely insane.
01:17:02.000And the Republicans don't have a monopoly on government.
01:17:05.000So I find it really funny when the left says, you know, I'm the counterculture revolutionary resistance, woohoo, Donald Trump is bad, and I'm like, Yeah, the Republicans control the presidency and the Senate.
01:19:16.000But it was measuring like what they were smelling was translating into electrical impulses into different areas.
01:19:21.000And then they could read like, kind of read what they were smelling, I think.
01:19:25.000I saw a long time ago, probably like maybe three or four years ago, I saw a video about this little device they made that they hook up to a cockroach's antennas and it puts electrical signals to them, which makes the cockroach move in certain directions based on what it thinks it's sensing.
01:19:40.000And it was like, I guess a little toy that they were like using with the remote control to move the roach around, which is really freaky.
01:19:45.000And I think one of the scientists who was discussing, and I watched a couple videos on it, and they were doing experiments with beetles, and they said that they could tell that there were signals in the brain attempting to fight the electrical signals.
01:20:05.000I was actually watching something about how I don't know exactly what it was.
01:20:09.000I was reading something about how if your equilibrium or the stuff in your ears that helps you keep balance, they could alter your sense of balance.
01:20:17.000So you're standing perfectly still, but you feel like you're falling backwards.
01:20:20.000So you start trying to move forward and they could control your movement by tricking your brain's balance.
01:20:26.000So you're like, whatever, you know, yeah.
01:20:28.000Dude, it's gonna make people control bots that have super abilities.
01:20:49.000Yeah, I mean, bring them off to prison.
01:20:51.000And then just pay for them to live in prison forever?
01:20:54.000Yeah, I mean, I think if a society has the resources to sustain somebody like that without having to kill them, you should keep them alive.
01:21:01.000And so, let's operate under the assumption that this guy says, I'll never stop!
01:21:08.000And wouldn't it be the option to give him a neural link instead, and then just disable murderous rampage?
01:21:15.000Yeah, that's an interesting thought, because it's so hypothetical, and what you're talking about is taking a person's free will, but of course when we put somebody in prison, we're taking their freedom.
01:22:21.000So let's say you end up as a right winger, and they're like, ooh, let's get rid of that, let's get rid of that.
01:22:27.000And then what happens is, the reason why I'm really skeptical on the Neuralink stuff is, you might get the Neuralink thinking, it's gonna be great, I can connect to the internet, I can just think, I can play video games, I can literally go into Skyrim world, like have this thing into my brain, it's amazing!
01:22:40.000And then someone can hack into your brain and be like, let's make this person a murderer, and they think they're a duck, and then you're gonna be like, running around going, Like bashing your face into people.
01:22:51.000Like do you want to give someone access to your brain through the internet?
01:23:22.000I went to, I think I was at DEFCON, which is the hacker convention, and there was someone doing a demo of how they could wirelessly hack an insulin pump, and... Did you just kill somebody?
01:23:31.000So imagine you have a neural link, and Elon Musk's gonna be encrypted, and I'm like, oh come on, encrypted will be cracked, and then what?
01:23:37.000And they're gonna keep playing the encryption race?
01:23:38.000I'm not gonna be the guinea pig, just to link my brain to the network, so that someone, when someone cracks the latest encryption, they get access to my brain in any capacity.
01:24:18.000Why does Twitter send me these random tweets?
01:24:20.000You ever get this thing where it's like, so-and-so liked this.
01:24:24.000And it just shows you and it's like, Donald Trump does a backflip off the White House.
01:24:27.000I'm like, okay, so I really do think I think a better way to put it is what Michael Malice said actually
01:24:34.000He said some really bad people got data on how much we're willing to it to take
01:24:38.000So that's fascinating So they know they can do certain things because they know
01:24:43.000how we behave and they'll do whatever they want Until we reach that line and then they'll dance right back,
01:24:47.000you know off of it But, my main point about Neuralink is, the things you see on Facebook, the algorithm, it's gonna shape what you wanna do, when you wanna do it.
01:24:58.000I mean, I was reading something about studies where it said like, a certain color room will have a certain effect on you, like a red room will make you angrier, a blue room will calm you down, a yellow room makes you hungry, or is more likely to.
01:25:09.000So what happens if Facebook decides, you know those colored boxes that appear with text in them?
01:25:14.000What if they say, we're gonna show only the red ones to the Antifa people, and so they're inundated by all this red and black, and they're just constantly like, rawr, and like angry.
01:25:22.000Even simpler with a neural net, you could have someone see like a red haze over everything, a red filter, and then they would get desensitized, wouldn't even realize they're looking through red, and it might change their subconscious behavior.
01:25:34.000I don't know to what extent Neuralink could actually alter your brain.
01:26:11.000I wonder, yeah, so that's interesting.
01:26:13.000Imagine if we could get to, again, extremely theoretical, but if we could get to a point where you could read somebody's thoughts or at the very least detect what kind of mood they're in, and then you could sort of peek in and examine what mood they are in when certain concepts are being explained to them, then you'd be able to evaluate their political views or whether or not they hold perspectives you consider to be unsavory.
01:26:32.000But what's awesome is if you're playing Skyrim and then you forget you're playing Skyrim and you start playing another game with your Skyrim character and you're in the other game, you'll like your- I think people would lose their mi- I don't think people's psyche could handle that.
01:26:42.000They would think that they were in a video game once they were outside of the video game.
01:27:38.000Like, our brains are electromagnetically being told how to pull on our muscles.
01:27:42.000Like, we got these jellyfish creatures in us, like the brain and brain stem, floating in this meat sack.
01:27:48.000That's basically what we are, is the brains and the brain stem, this creature that's, like, with electrical impulses, pulls on the muscles.
01:27:54.000I think that seeing the brain is too separate from you, though.
01:27:56.000I mean, like, we're a body-soul composite, and your brain is part of you.
01:28:07.000Haven't you ever heard stories about how, like, when people get organ transplants, and then all of a sudden they, like, get memories, or they, like, pick up behaviors?
01:28:32.000I mean, I believe in a soul, and I believe that we are a body-soul composite, so I wouldn't limit me to just my brain and say that my body is something separate from it, or that my soul is something separate from it.
01:30:33.000I think energy is the basis for the value of a lot of currency, though.
01:30:37.000I mean, so you think about why does a dollar have value, and then you try and determine what is a living wage, and what does a person deserve, and the value of a dollar is tied to what you can get for it.
01:31:10.000And then we started using animal energy.
01:31:12.000Then we started learning about, you know, burning carbon for energy.
01:31:16.000We've continually improved the different sources of energy and how to manipulate the energy.
01:31:21.000And so, I guess, based on like the petrodollar and stuff and the way war works and oil, the basis of our currency is very much so energy return.
01:31:35.000Because the oil you can get for it, you can use to build, and you don't need humans.
01:31:38.000Like, the amount of energy compared to, like, what a human can produce, versus what a machine can do, lifting, like... We see the... I love ancient aliens, and they talk about, like, how did humans possibly live these giant stones?
01:31:52.000Where this dude, he like, took, it was a gigantic, like, multi-ton stone, and he hammered a wooden wedge under it, and then started rocking it back and forth.
01:32:02.000And then he dug a hole, and then it flipped over.
01:32:04.000And he was like, that's how you do it.
01:32:05.000You use its own weight, and you apply very little energy to wobble it.
01:32:09.000If you had a crane, you could just move it.
01:32:12.000So if you have the oil, you don't need the people.
01:32:15.000So the energy coming is way more valuable.
01:32:17.000So we've been replacing human labor with machine labor, and that's the problem.
01:32:22.000The Industrial Revolution had riots, and there's going to be a free energy riot.
01:32:29.000I mean, the conspiracy theory is that free energy, or some form of it, at least in our system, it would be equivalent to free as far as we're concerned.
01:32:38.000is being withheld because it would lead to widespread riots and discord and collapse, and we don't want that to happen.
01:32:43.000I don't think I believe that, because that's just, like, out there.
01:32:46.000But, I mean, the idea makes sense, so people believe it, whether or not they have evidence.
01:32:51.000But Andrew Yang talks about how automation is going to be the next industrial revolution.
01:32:56.000People are going to lose their jobs because we're going to replace them with more efficient systems.
01:33:00.000And we don't need the energy they can produce, because it's dramatically less than the computer.
01:33:04.000The computer takes a little bit of energy and it can do 10 times.
01:33:08.000You just tap the thing, boop, boop, boop, and I got my cheeseburger with extra, you know, ketchup or whatever.
01:33:12.000Talking to the person, man, that's a lot of work.
01:33:13.000You know what else Andrew Yang suggested is that we get every cop a blue belt, no, there's a purple belt in jiu-jitsu.
01:33:20.000Every police officer should study jiu-jitsu.
01:33:23.000Yeah, but then they can't even do chokeholds.
01:33:27.000I think my thing with there being a second industrial revolution because of our technology is that, I mean, in the long run, yes, there were problems and there were some pretty short-term hiccups and serious ones.
01:33:36.000I don't mean to delegitimize those or say there weren't actual problems, but in the long run, we have benefited immensely from the industrial revolution.
01:33:42.000So a second technological revolution would probably be very good for us, at least materially speaking.
01:33:46.000And they're afraid of the short-term chaos.
01:33:48.000Yeah, they're afraid of the short-term chaos and probably wondering how we could mitigate that, which I think is probably a fair concern if we really get to that point.
01:33:54.000I don't know if I bind the idea that we are going to get to the point where human labor is so unnecessary that we will have these riots, but maybe.
01:36:01.000Oh, I was much less interesting than whatever you were gonna say.
01:36:04.000Okay, well, don't put that much faith in me, but I appreciate it.
01:36:09.000Even if we did reach a point where society was like Star Trek and you could fabricate any material thing in some kind of replicator, There would still be a scarcity of time.
01:36:17.000You would still only have so much on the planet.
01:36:19.000So scarcity will literally never disappear.
01:36:35.000Alright, now we're immortal beings, we can fly, we can shoot laser beams out of our eyes, we have all these powers, and then one day Ian is like, yo, I'm gonna go to Alpha Centauri, I'll be back for lunch, and he bursts off into flyaway, and then, meteor hits him.
01:37:42.000We have a bunch of people who have questions, and again, to everybody who's watching, I know a lot of people have dipped out just because the internet's been cutting in and out, and I'll tell you exactly what happened.
01:37:52.000We ran 300 feet of cable, and the computer's giving us an Ethernet IP error, and I've gone through everything, and it just doesn't work.
01:38:00.000So we're actually using a mesh network, which is causing us problems now.
01:38:03.000Welcome to living in the middle of nowhere.
01:38:05.000But I would like to send a special message to Verizon.
01:38:08.000It has now been about three months where you haven't laid the cables down yet, and you told us it would be about a week, so I'm hoping you hear this, and Verizon, please help us get the internet you promised us installed, because I would like to be a customer of your business, and I guess I can't.
01:38:23.000But that being said, thanks for everybody hanging out, and we're going to have the full podcast up on iTunes.
01:38:29.000And, uh, we'll put up clips throughout the day tomorrow, so everything's gonna be high-quality HD, because we record this in-house as well.
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01:39:10.000I think he's saying that I may or may not be slated to have some kind of accident at some point in the future due to my outspoken political beliefs.
01:39:25.000Okay, we have a bunch of funny questions, but sure.
01:39:28.000Imago Mortis says, you all remember that Intercept article about a Pentagon video detailing the inevitable dystopian future of major cities?
01:40:09.000It would be cleared out in 20 minutes.
01:40:10.000They'd cause a minor nuisance, get some press coverage.
01:40:13.000And that's, I feel like that line is tolerable because we don't want the alternative.
01:40:17.000If you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable.
01:40:21.000So we have to tolerate a certain level of disobedience without putting people in prison.
01:40:25.000Sure, oh, definitely, but I guess the question is whether or not that's tolerable.
01:40:28.000You're right, if it's 20 minutes, it might not be as big a deal, but if you're blocking off an entire road and ambulances can't get by, for example.
01:40:38.000So typically what happens is you get a supervision charge, you get locked up for a day or two while you wait arraignment, and you blocked a road.
01:40:47.000It's like, okay, well, we don't like you did it, but we get it, you made your point, congratulations.
01:40:51.000The alternative would be, you give them prison time, then people are gonna start getting violent, they're gonna go black block Antifa, they're gonna put masks on and run through the streets full speed, they're gonna escalate their tactics.
01:41:01.000Yeah, I think it just needs to be understood by the people who want to block the street that you are gonna make people and their automobiles feel extremely unsafe and you have to be prepared for one of them to lose their cool.
01:41:32.000We just jumped right out of the nest and saw if we can do it, and we had a bunch of problems yesterday with, like, the audio was not working, and now today we're having all these internet troubles, and it's like, you know what, man?
01:41:41.000There would be no opportunity for me to set this up.
01:42:44.000Okay, folks, honestly, if you think I just came here to do impressions instead of discuss aliens and UFOs and being in a simulation and all these other things we're having a conversation about, you're absolutely out of your mind, okay?
01:42:50.000That stuff's way more interesting than talking about, like, the consumer spending crisis that we've seen in healthcare over the past 40 years, which is a result of Medicare and Medicaid, which is a government policy, so universal healthcare is not the option that we should be going for as a country, okay, gang?
01:43:00.000And you can just go that fast and say all of that.
01:43:20.000Because it wouldn't be honest to myself.
01:43:22.000But I think it's funny that like most people, if they do, like the people who are familiar with your kind of know you for a more comedic context and here you are having this like legitimate political discussion.
01:43:31.000Very calm and reasonable and it's like, you know.
01:43:33.000I wouldn't call anything I say reasonable, but I appreciate it.
01:44:59.000I don't really care that much I don't look the dude can do whatever he wants people are gonna get mad about it I think more people are mad about Joe because they're worried.
01:45:05.000They're gonna lose a weapon in the culture war Yeah, they're like, but Joe is this guy who's fighting for us if he goes out they're gonna you know And so they don't actually care about what he wants to do and what his show is all about and it's like I'm gonna do my thing, you know, I'm on my business and People are correcting me a lot on the Brenna Taylor thing.
01:45:21.000That they did actually knock before entering.
01:45:28.000And this is why I said earlier, no matter what the circumstances were, they would have treated it the exact same way and that's why I'm so skeptical of every single story I hear about this.
01:45:38.000I was discussing this with you guys before we started the show.
01:45:41.000When I first began college in 2013, I had the Joe Rogan experience recommended to me by a professor who was a liberal professor at the time.
01:45:49.000And it's just funny because probably only three or four years after that, Joe Rogan started to be accused of being this alt-right, sympathetic, adjacent fascist sympathizer because he has conversations with people who they don't like.
01:46:02.000It was just funny to me how much, how the culture changed so quickly.
01:46:05.000To the point where, like, at the beginning of my college experience, liberal professors were recommending him.
01:46:09.000By the very end, they were condemning him.
01:46:11.000I think he was super liberal in the early days and then got a little more moderate.
01:46:15.000I don't know if, yeah, I guess I couldn't speak to that because I didn't consume too much of his content early on, but I think the left, it could just be that the left has gone further to the left and so he appears more moderate.
01:46:27.000The question is, is that why he appears more moderate?
01:46:29.000Maybe he's become more moderate because there's this sort of vicious cycle where the more crazy the left gets, the more likely standard left-wingers from about ten years ago are to actually move to the right.
01:46:39.000So I have a fact check here from Mumbling Bearded Freak, that's his name.
01:46:43.000Tim, I don't think I've seen you get the facts of a story more wrong than the Breonna Taylor case.
01:46:48.000Brandon Tatum has released court documents from the case that you need to read.
01:46:52.000They knocked, she was named on the warrant, she was dealing.
01:47:08.000If she was accused of drug dealing and then they knocked and the guy shot the cops through the door, I mean...
01:47:14.000Yeah, I mean, clearly it's still a tragic story when anyone dies, but that's very different from the police just bursting into the house and causing chaos.
01:48:11.000After being trashed, after Tim looked me in the eye and said he hated me.
01:48:16.000So he says, Ma'am, are you using your illegal run powers to take this woman's birth control pills from her ovaries?
01:48:21.000That's right, your illegal nun powers, which is exactly what the Catholic Church is trying to do.
01:48:26.000And if Trump appoints this horrible theocrat to the Supreme Court, they're going to steal birth control forever.
01:48:30.000It's going to be like the Grinch coming down your chimney and going to your bathroom and just taking birth control out and then sneaking out of your house.
01:49:21.000Like, that's an aggression upon you as a whole.
01:49:24.000So then, like, throughout the day when your skin is, like, dry and flaking off, you're, like, basically spreading your body all over things?
01:49:32.000Obviously, you get to a point where there's some part of you so small that we probably wouldn't consider it you, but it is a small part of you.
01:49:39.000It's a question of, like, what do you identify with?
01:49:41.000And you were talking about teleporters earlier, like, potentially getting there, and that almost kind of gets into, like, the... What's it called?
01:49:49.000Thought experiment of like the teleporter.
01:49:50.000If you're deconstructed in one place and built again, another place, uh, is that still you or is that just a copy of you?
01:49:57.000So I don't like, yeah, it gets really complicated, especially when you get hypothetical, like a head in a jar or a teleporter experiment, uh, experiment like that.
01:50:03.000But I just generally consider you and your body and your soul.
01:50:06.000Are you, I think that the, your brain's like a radio and that certain frequency can activate it.
01:50:11.000So like, if you reconstruct the exact same brain elsewhere, the same frequency can still hit it.
01:50:16.000Regardless of where the frequency's coming from.
01:50:17.000Isn't it canon in Star Trek that when you teleport, you die and then a copy of you is made?
01:50:21.000I don't know if that's canon, but it's definitely terrifying.
01:50:25.000There's an episode where Commander Riker was trying to beam off a planet that had some kind of atmospheric interference, and it caused his signal to split into two.
01:50:33.000One bounced back and one went to the ship.
01:50:35.000So the ship leaves thinking they got him, but left a copy of him on the ground.
01:51:15.000or can you never teleported anybody so we have no clue is there like a soulless
01:51:19.000version of you now no I think you just die I think a soul needs to animate you
01:51:23.000yeah that's true so you think like like this
01:51:25.000second copy would just be dead just dropped dead yeah yeah that'd be crazy
01:51:29.000I think the soul's coming from the galactic core, and it's beaming to us, and giving us information, causing your brain to function in certain ways.
01:51:37.000You know, normally, I think hearing something like that, where it just sounds like, I don't know where you're getting that from, it sounds nuts.
01:51:44.000But I mean, people have religious beliefs.
01:51:49.000If you are like, I feel and I believe something and it's true, I'll be like, well, I certainly don't.
01:51:53.000But if it's coming from the galactic core, it's coming from a universal core that's hitting the galactic core and then refracting to the sun, which is then refracting to the earth, then refracting to you or something like that.
01:52:13.000It's like people are so averse to a belief in God, but then if you say we're in a simulation, it's like, whoa man, that's so deep and cool.
01:52:20.000So quite literally you're saying someone programmed and designed everything and created as it is, and it took them a certain amount of time and were in their system by their design.
01:52:48.000Yeah, but it's but I mean, it's it's it's it's not the same as Buddhism Like simulism has the idea that there was someone who created.
01:52:55.000Oh, yeah, there's a creator Yeah, yeah creator and and it's design, you know, I mean, well, you could say then I mean, it probably wouldn't be a coincidence that it developed in the West It's sort of like a perversion or distortion, right?
01:53:06.000But yeah, yeah, but but you could also say too I mean I don't think the idea of a creator was unique just to the West, too.
01:53:16.000I think, like, obviously Buddhists don't necessarily believe in a creator, but other religions did.
01:53:22.000Superchat from Court J. What do you think about outfitting the cops with a tech to just record the traffic violations while patrolling and then sending citations to the owner of the vehicle, reducing interactions?
01:55:02.000And they just like jump through the trees, and they like just jump from tree to tree, jumping like 100 feet at a time, and you know, it's not a time ninja's role, man.
01:55:09.000Also, they can create fire and other magic from their hands by making hand signs, and it's a show about- Maybe that's why they run like that.
01:55:14.000They don't want to accidentally discharge their hand magic in front of them as they're running.
01:55:51.000Like, you watch this whole show and you think it's about ninja warring countries and then at the end it turns out it's an alien invasion and they're all wielding alien space magic.
01:57:17.000It's basically a very short story about how people who are smart have to wear things in their ears that like make random noises to disrupt their thinking so that everyone's equal.
01:57:27.000People who are tall have to like, you know.
01:57:29.000Oh, I think I did read this actually in school.
01:57:31.000People who are strong have to wear weights so they're as weak as everyone else.
01:57:34.000And this is like people in the neural net, and the one guy rips the neural net out, and he's like, no longer, and they're like, he's off the net, he's off the net!
01:57:41.000And you're like, there's this moment of love.
01:57:44.000It ends with this, like, 7-foot-tall, super-ripped, chiseled dude, like, ripping off his chains, and then he, like, grabs this woman and rips her mask off, and she turns out to be beautiful, and everyone's like, oh no, what's happening?
01:57:54.000I actually do remember reading that, yeah.
01:58:34.000Bourbon Bear said, Bourbon Bear, I live in a not-too-great part of Louisville, but far away from downtown, and they boarded up the local police station.
01:58:58.000But the problem is, I was using a powerline adapter, for those that are familiar, and it said I was getting really good signal, but it wasn't working.
01:59:05.000That's why I thought it was the computer.
01:59:51.000Josh Frohman says, go ahead and defund the police, but repeal the NFA and Brady Bill so people can defend themselves with whatever they want.
02:02:27.000And, uh, you know, my one piece of advice to everybody, uh, first, I'll just apologize for all the hiccups you've been having on the show, because I know, you know, if you come here to watch a show and then it breaks, it's like, what are we doing?
02:02:41.000If we sat back and didn't know what to do, we'd have no show for, like, a week or two.
02:02:44.000It's only because people have been giving us advice, people have been telling us what's not working, that it's working, so I really do appreciate the fact that, uh, all of you stick around and watch, because it's basically part of the process, and without you, we wouldn't even know what the issues were.
02:02:55.000But, uh, also, Ian, you wanna mention your social?
02:03:42.000You can't see, but when the camera switches to Ian, I actually have to get up to hold her back from swinging at Seamus and I'm just like, no!
02:03:50.000It's why they didn't let me on the podcast last time.
02:03:57.000Well, you know, you thought we wouldn't know it was you when you put the mask on and started screaming, the whole damn system is guilty as hell and marching through the neighborhood.
02:04:20.000So, hey everybody, really, thanks for hanging out.
02:04:21.000We're going to be back tomorrow at 8pm and we're going to be talking about guns, guns, guns with somebody who's all about guns, guns, guns.