Derek Chauvin is on trial for the murder of his ex-boyfriend, George Floyd. The defense team is doing their best to prove that he is innocent, but there's a lot of evidence that doesn't point in their favor. Ian and Tim are joined by special guest Michael Malice to discuss all of this and more.
00:00:32.000you in possibly the most shocking thing out of the Derek Chauvin
00:00:58.000trial in Minneapolis so far George Floyd's girlfriend told the court
00:01:04.000as she was being questioned by the defense that this one of the state's
00:01:08.000key witnesses a guy named a guy named Maurice Lester Hall was George Floyd
00:01:14.000and her dealer and And he was supposed to be testifying as one of the key witnesses for the state.
00:01:20.000Abruptly, apparently just the day before, this guy shocked the court by saying he wasn't going to testify, he wasn't going to be a witness.
00:01:29.000And this is just one big factor in the defense that we've seen so far that really makes it seem like, my friends, this is gonna be... Well, I'll put it this way.
00:01:39.000If there is a reasonable jury that's following the evidence the same way I am, as I'm watching the court same as them and hearing a lot of the same evidence, boy, it sure does sound at the very least like reasonable doubt across the board.
00:01:51.000I don't even think manslaughter can stick.
00:04:33.000And I'm actually, I actually just went over a treatment.
00:04:36.000This is like basically the elevator pitch for a TV series which we might actually produce because we're going to get into the business of making culture and making shows and just being regular people that make fun things and get away from the weird culty woke stuff.
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00:04:58.000So we're working on the vlog, the chickens are doing their chicken stuff.
00:07:08.000So there are people whose job it is to take a newly hatched chick, squeeze its Whatever, it's junk.
00:07:14.000And it looks very different, slightly different, excuse me, when it's a male or female.
00:07:18.000And in that one second, they throw it into the shredder, or the meat grinder, or they put it aside, and that's their whole job.
00:07:26.000People were complaining, animal rights people, you're killing 50% of the chicken population, and they just recently made it illegal.
00:07:31.000So now they're gonna have all these surplus roosters.
00:07:33.000And the other thing I know about chickens, I feel like Joey Tribbiani, when he got the encyclopedia, and he got volume C, The other thing is, um, what was I going to say?
00:08:29.000George Floyd's girlfriend breaks it down in court as she reveals they were both addicted to opioids and the drugs were sold by his friend who refuses to testify at Derek Chauvin's murder trial.
00:08:38.000I'm just gonna break this down for you.
00:08:39.000This guy, Maurice Lester Hall, a key witness for the state, filed a shock notice on Wednesday stating that he plans to invoke the fifth against self-incrimination.
00:09:07.000She apparently said in an affidavit, I think, because they showed her the paper saying you told the FBI this, I think it was the FBI, that Floyd had purchased the pills from this guy.
00:09:42.000And Judge Cahill said in September, back when they were preparing this stuff, the evidence that was presented by defense, it looks like Floyd had a tablet in his mouth.
00:09:56.000The dude Moise Lester Hall is in the shop on surveillance footage and the Daily Mail pulled one of the clips and he's dropping something in Floyd's hand.
00:10:05.000The clerk says Floyd looked like he was under the influence.
00:10:09.000He was like having trouble speaking, slurring his words.
00:10:52.000The clerk said he took this counterfeit 20 and at first he was like, I'll just eat it because his boss was like, if you take counterfeit money, you got to pay for it.
00:11:00.000And then he thought about it and was like, I can't do that.
00:11:02.000Went to his manager and said, what do I do?
00:11:17.000So now you have this circumstance, and when I saw that, I was like, dude, the toxicology report showed that he had 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl in his system, 5.6 nanograms per milliliter of norfentanyl, which is a metabolite of fentanyl.
00:11:31.000My understanding in this context means that it's the fentanyl that's breaking down in his body.
00:11:37.000It could potentially be a precursor substance that people use, we don't know for sure, but Well, Lydia pulled this up the other day on the show, when mixing drugs, a lethal dose of fentanyl can be 7 nanograms per milliliter.
00:11:49.000This guy had 11, and 5.6 of nor-fentanyl.
00:11:52.000Because I only learned today, when Lydia picked me up from the airport, why people actually use fentanyl.
00:11:58.000I had been under the impression, this is how much of a straight-a-jam, that they're trying to buy heroin, Instead of getting heroin, they're getting fentanyl and they're getting killed.
00:12:06.000I didn't realize that people intentionally take fentanyl and it has some kind of a purpose.
00:12:51.000When you take like Percocet or something like this, they don't understand that it's a painkiller, but pain is obviously, it's not literally happening in your arm or your mouth, it's happening in your mind.
00:13:00.000So what these painkillers do, you're sitting there and it's like you're on a cloud.
00:13:04.000You know the expression, not feeling any pain?
00:13:07.000It affects your psychology and your mood.
00:13:10.000And you could be sitting just staring at Ian, staring at you, Tim, and just feeling really mellow and relaxed.
00:13:15.000And it's very easy to see how this can become hyper addictive.
00:13:19.000Because if you tell someone, all you have to do is take this pill and for hours, you're just going to feel relaxed and happy and have pure bliss.
00:13:27.000You're not going to think, well the doctor gave it to me, obviously it can't be that dangerous, why wouldn't it?
00:13:32.000And then you get a physiological dependence.
00:13:33.000And then, because what happens if you stop, you know, it's kind of like stopping short in a car.
00:13:37.000I've had a friend who was a former heroin addict, and your body starts freaking out because it's not in a position to make that happy juice or serotonin or whatever it is, and now you're in panic.
00:13:47.000Cause you're like, if I don't get that feeling back, like it's like fight or flight.
00:14:53.000But here's the other thing about decriminalization, you know, obviously I'm an anarchist and this is my view, but what people don't appreciate when we talk about decriminalizing drugs, It's the harder drugs that are the most in need of decriminalization because those are the most at-risk people who need to have access to resources, who need to not be worried about being locked in prison with rapists and murderers.
00:15:13.000When you're in that state of withdrawal, you're not thinking completely rationally.
00:15:18.000Your brain's only thought is, make this feeling you're feeling go away right now.
00:15:22.000And after a while, you're stealing from your family, you're breaking into places, you're doing things you would never otherwise do.
00:15:27.000And it's easy to say, just go cold turkey.
00:15:29.000If anyone has had writer's block, if anyone's been at the gym and you don't feel like working out, imagine that times a thousand, because your brain is screaming at you, being very articulate.
00:15:38.000You need to do what you need to do to get this feeling back.
00:15:41.000So it's those are the people who need kind of help.
00:15:47.000Yeah, to put someone like this in prison.
00:15:49.000Well, so if you're physiologically dependent from an addiction to something like opioids, and you don't get it, you can die from withdrawal.
00:16:06.000And so, I think what we need to do is we need to reform the system.
00:16:09.000The problem I have with this is now, it's looking to me like Chauvin's gonna get acquitted, and it's also looking like he should be.
00:16:15.000But it's also looking like the state is responsible for all of it.
00:16:19.000The problem here is that the state is prosecuting Chauvin as a scapegoat for their broken system with the war on drugs and for their broken policies where they train the police to do this maneuver with the knee.
00:16:32.000So if you got a problem with the knee on the neck, I hear you.
00:16:35.000It was the police that told him to do it.
00:16:37.000If you've got a problem with Floyd getting arrested, I agree, man, it's the war on drugs.
00:16:42.000Imagine if someone walked up, and imagine if it wasn't a criminal act to be addicted or to be buying the substances, or at the very least you knew the penalty was a light stint in rehab or a clinic.
00:16:55.000Floyd would not have panicked the way he would.
00:17:10.000It used to be backed by gold, meaning I can go to a store or whatever the bank and say, I want $20 worth of gold instead of this bill.
00:17:17.000FDR, when he became president, broke every contract in America unilaterally because the contract said, Tim, you're going to paint my house for $500 or the gold equivalent.
00:17:28.000And if it was super inflation, I'm like, you know what?
00:17:37.000So they really made sure that gold couldn't be used as a base of currency.
00:17:41.000And only now, let me just finish my thought.
00:17:43.000Only now, thanks to things like Ethereum, crypto, Bitcoin, are there ways for people to store money.
00:17:48.000It's not the same as gold, obviously, but these are a better store than politicians who could print at will.
00:17:55.000And if everyone listened to me and bought Ethereum when I was in the show and said to buy it, they would have been up like two and a half times the money.
00:18:23.000A lot of times conservatives are like, the guy, point out correctly, point correctly, this guy pointed a gun at a pregnant woman during an armed robbery.
00:18:30.000It's like, well, if that's the case, then he shouldn't be on the street either.
00:18:33.000So no matter which way you cut it, this is a screwed up situation.
00:18:48.000We were talking about gun control, and I said, if you pay your debt to society, you get your gun back, you get your vote back.
00:18:54.000And so a lot of people said, yeah, but if you're violent, and I'm like, well then if this, if you've, listen, so you're talking about an extended sentence.
00:19:01.000That's just not, okay, by all means, argue that.
00:19:03.000I'm saying literally, if they're like, you did this, so your punishment is five years.
00:19:07.000Five years later, you get out, congratulations, here's your gun, here's your voter registration ID card, or whatever you need.
00:19:11.000Well, they don't do voter ID, but you get the point.
00:19:16.000I'm still not necessarily a big fan, but I understand the idea.
00:19:19.000And ultimately what I'm saying is, listen, the most violent criminals are always the presidents in the Senate because they're the ones who declare war.
00:19:28.000Look how much blood is on their hands.
00:19:46.000It's creating criminals out of victims.
00:19:49.000Look, I understand there's violent crime.
00:19:50.000I was tweeting up a storm during Trump saying Trump should pardon every non-violent drug offender with some review because some might plead down.
00:19:57.000But the general idea is if you were a non-violent drug offender, that's the only thing you did.
00:20:16.000Now the problem is, they're demanding the state that is at fault Put Chauvin on trial, an individual officer, working as an individual for the state who was told to do something by the state.
00:20:27.000If we as a community say, we need people to be working on behalf of the state to enforce the law, and then the individual says, I'm willing to do that, and then we say, okay, but you have no legal protections in the event that we actually end up saying we don't like what the state is doing.
00:20:41.000Change the state itself, but don't, as a community, ask someone to do something and then get mad when they do it.
00:22:24.000You know, don't you think his kids would prefer it if he lived, if he just gave that car away?
00:22:28.000And I said, if every single person looked dead in the eyes, the criminal attempting to harass or oppress them and said, I will blow your head off if you go near me.
00:23:05.000The point is, if people had the right to defend themselves, and someone walked up to you and said, give me your stuff, you'd be like, oh, I got something for you.
00:23:25.000He does workshops where he talks about de-escalation.
00:23:28.000And I think this is something that is very important.
00:23:30.000And I'm saying this as someone born in the Soviet Union.
00:23:32.000It's very important for people, especially young males, especially low status young males, to be educated.
00:23:39.000And be told, you know what, if you take a step back, you're not a coward, you're not a woman, you're not whatever pejorative you want to use.
00:23:46.000Sometimes it's okay to be like, you know what, fine, this is not going to escalate, because Jeanette Rankin, who was the only member of Congress to vote against World War I and World War II, she said, you don't win a war any more than you win a hurricane.
00:24:00.000But it's kind of like a knife fight or a gun fight.
00:24:04.000At the very least, even in a free society, you're going to have to sit down and adjudicate and say, I drew this gun on this person for this reason.
00:24:12.000I shouldn't have my gun rights revoked.
00:24:15.000So I'm not talking about a fight over honor, which is a lot of what happens in Chicago, where two guys refuse to back down because of their honor.
00:24:26.000I'm talking about you're, you know, a guy, you got a couple of kids and you're with your wife and the state says you can't have guns anymore.
00:24:38.000And there's a lot of good, you know, hardworking families with no criminal history who are, who are in felony possession of firearms because they refuse to be victims to these gangs who terrorize their neighborhoods.
00:24:53.000So what do you think should be done when someone takes an oath to uphold the Constitution, and in violating that oath, they leave poor, helpless people defenseless in their homes?
00:25:03.000Do you think these people should be respected?
00:26:04.000yeah because what she doesn't understand is that she regularly advocate for
00:26:08.000taking people's rights away she understands short short so these the amount a lot of these people on
00:26:13.000the left many the progressives they're actually pro-gun that's
00:26:16.000absolutely are like the socialist rifle association types and then there's
00:26:19.000a decent overlap with many is and if a people
00:26:21.000some is and if the people recently arrested in portland were armed with
00:26:24.000guns so that the market the the marxists are very pro-gun because the argument
00:26:28.000I'm writing about this in my upcoming book, The White Pill.
00:26:32.000There's a myth among the boomer conservatives that gun control started as a result of they didn't want black people to become armed post-Civil War.
00:27:21.000Okay, this is the story of Louis Ling, who's on the cover of the Anarchist Handbook, which I'll be back on to talk about when it's ready, assuming I don't burn this bridge today.
00:27:43.000So what happens is, in Illinois, you have these—they're very heavily immigrant, very heavily German—labor unions are forming militias, and they're mustering, I think that's the term, when they're practicing, so on and so forth.
00:27:54.000There was a union meeting in Haymarket Square in Chicago, which is still around, and different people were talking.
00:28:01.000At night, a bomb got thrown, dynamite.
00:28:04.000A lot of people got killed, including several police officers.
00:28:06.000A bunch of anarchists were rounded up, some of whom were not even there.
00:28:11.000And they were accused of conspiracy to commit murder because they were advocating these radical ideas.
00:28:17.000One of them was someone named Louis Ling.
00:28:18.000If you look him up on the internet, he looks like Channing Tatum.
00:28:21.000It looks like a contemporary photo, even though it's from 1870-something.
00:28:59.000Four of them were hanged, excuse me, or five.
00:29:00.000Lewis escaped the hanging because he snuck in a blasting cap into his jail cell, blew off his jaw, and then wrote in blood on the wall, hooray for anarchy.
00:29:10.000The others, one of them when he was being hanged said, someday the voices you strangle will be louder than the, someday the, I forget the term, whatever.
00:29:22.000They got pardoned many years later and there's a memorial to them right now in Chicago.
00:29:26.000But this is where a lot of it started.
00:29:50.000They said this was an agent provocateur paid for by the capitalists to get us in trouble.
00:29:56.000And we still don't know who threw the bomb to this day.
00:29:58.000So let's wrap this back to the origin of how we started talking about this, which was the Chauvin trial.
00:30:04.000They're going after one guy, Derek Chauvin.
00:30:07.000If they convict him, the state, which in my opinion is responsible, will cheer and hurrah, and all of the activists will be satisfied.
00:30:16.000Well, probably not, but if the idea is they want Chauvin put on trial as the individual, They're ignoring what's really going on.
00:30:23.000And I liken this to, you know, I'll put it exactly like this.
00:30:27.000It's like, imagine if there was, you know, in fetal Japan, the ninja was tasked with taking out the emperor.
00:30:32.000Instead, he fought with the palace guard and then celebrated when the palace guard, one of them, you know, was removed from his post.
00:30:39.000Chauvin is just one guy who works for a system.
00:30:42.000Getting that guy convicted won't change anything.
00:30:44.000And he was just some guy who was doing, like, you know, he was told, here's how you restrain someone.
00:30:49.000Now, whether or not he actually did anything wrong in that capacity, stopping Floyd, I disagree with the war on drugs, but there's arguments about what you do when there's statutory law in the books.
00:30:58.000Derek Chauvin was trained by the Minneapolis police to do... It's called the recovery position.
00:31:04.000That's what it said in the training thing that they released.
00:31:06.000Because if you put your knee on their back, they could asphyxiate.
00:31:23.000He said it before he was even restrained.
00:31:25.000So all of that leads to this conclusion of at least, bare minimum, reasonable doubt.
00:31:29.000My problem, the war on drugs, first and foremost, is a big part of this.
00:31:34.000Especially when I saw, you know, Floyd's girlfriend testify about opioid addiction and what they were going through, and I was like, this is insane, man.
00:34:03.000They're trying to make people, making people radioactive has happened for a very long time in this country.
00:34:09.000And I think they have to ramp it up because if there's three networks, ABC, CBS, NBC, the three of us can get in a room and be like, look, this guy's a clown.
00:34:20.000That's why a lot of ideas that were kind of on the fringe would be heard by the mainstream because it's like the three of them said, yeah, we're not going to talk about it.
00:34:26.000Now, when you have this show and infinite shows on YouTube on Rumble and all these other locations, it's impossible to have a monopoly of the megaphone.
00:34:36.000So now they're freaking out because it's very difficult to sustain a regime based on mistruths or untruths when all it takes is one jerk with a Twitter account to be like, this isn't accurate.
00:35:06.000Because when I heard about this when I was doing my North Korea book, a lot of times people say insane when they just don't understand the system.
00:35:13.000And a lot of times the system is coherent.
00:35:14.000I mean insane as in the figurative that it's so shockingly outrageous it would make anyone think the world has gone nuts.
00:35:39.000I wonder if Crowder will sue them for defamation because what they're telling people is that in these articles where people ask about Crowder, they say that he violated their deceptive policy or spam policy, but the specific email that got sent out by Google said, you can't do this particular thing.
00:35:57.000Crowder did not do that particular thing.
00:35:59.000He said, you can't say these two things at the same time.
00:36:12.000The rules clearly state, or at least Google has said, you can upload to another channel if the content is substantially different, which it was.
00:36:20.000He filmed a cell phone video saying, hey guys, here's what's happening.
00:36:47.000He was a Twitter journalist, shout out to Nick if he's watching, and he would be breaking a lot of stories because there would be something in the corporate press and he would just, he was this nerdy kid with a computer and a lot of spare time and he'd do his due diligence and he'd find articles like, what you're saying is not accurate, here's the receipts.
00:37:36.000or at the very least they were like waiting for the moment when they could all act in concert and for some reason did although it's not completely unified because like twitter waits a day or two before they finally do it well they waited a while for alex jones right yeah there's another one but that collusion but it it's very but the thing is like i'll play devil's advocate to some extent I don't think people appreciate how weak a lot of corporate America is, and no one wants to stick out their neck.
00:38:02.000So it's a lot easier for me as Jack Dorsey, if YouTube and Zuckerberg are all doing this, for me to be like, there's no cost for me to join them.
00:38:10.000But if I'm sticking my neck out, like we saw with Black Lives Matter and the guy who ran CrossFit, and he's like, this has nothing to do with us.
00:38:46.000But so, even after they do that, the technology, cryptocurrency, your own private websites, open source tech still exists.
00:38:55.000Crowder has a website, he has MugClub, he's got, you know, he's with BlazeTV.
00:39:00.000They can reduce a decent amount of his reach on their platforms.
00:39:05.000But in the end, look at what happens when Trump gets banned off Twitter.
00:39:09.000People start losing followers like crazy.
00:39:12.000A lot of people were only on Twitter for the president in the first place.
00:39:15.000When Patreon banned Carl Benjamin, who now runs the Lotus Eaters podcast, which you guys should check out, I lost a ton of support from people who are messaging me saying, dude, love your work.
00:39:25.000But I'm here for a lot of people and I have to move now because, you know, my favorite show is, you know, Carl's show.
00:42:01.000And all it's going to take is one smart person, here you go, and be like, this is going to be a workaround.
00:42:07.000And once this problem is solved, it is solved permanently.
00:42:11.000I'm old enough, I'm 63, to remember when the idea... I'm old enough to remember when people said the idea of, oh, make your own website, would have been an absurdity.
00:42:38.000From the new members we got, we were able to make a better website launching soon, which is now pro.
00:42:42.000And from those members, we're now going to start funding TV shows, movies, and I actually read through a treatment for a show we might produce.
00:42:52.000I want to create an open source project that someone could just install on a web server, like they find a hosting company, they install it, boom.
00:43:00.000When you go to their website, it looks like any of these subscription services.
00:43:05.000It's got a login, signup function, it's got a database.
00:43:08.000Now there's some things you'll have to be responsible for, security, things like that, your own payment processors, things like that.
00:43:13.000It'll probably be Stripe or PayPal like most people use.
00:43:15.000But it'll be like one click, boom, package upload, your website exists.
00:43:18.000Then you'll have all the WordPress functioning for uploading photos, and you'll have a little bit of a learning curve, but for the most part, you will have a totally decentralized Patreon system.
00:43:28.000Let me tell you, I talked to Jack Conte of Patreon a couple times when people got banned.
00:43:35.000And just for a lot of people who may not understand what's going on, Patreon is a subscription service.
00:43:40.000They abruptly banned Lauren Southern, eliminating her income.
00:43:43.000They later abruptly banned Carl Benjamin, eliminating his income.
00:43:48.000Just so people understand, abruptly means it's not like YouTube where you get a strike.
00:43:51.000It's like you wake up and all your names are gone.
00:44:31.000When one of our partners comes to us and says, we're gonna shut down your entire website unless you get rid of one person, I have a choice to make.
00:44:47.000And then when those 10,000 people and all their 10,000 followers or one million followers each are wondering what happened, I'll point them in your direction.
00:44:58.000Much as I respect Dave Rubin, what do you think would happen if MasterCard called him up like they did to Patreon, and they say, if you don't get rid of Malice, we shut your company down overnight?
00:45:09.000Well, let's just pretend he's saying Bridget Phetasy, because she's much more expendable than me.
00:45:14.000We don't have to argue about this because this actually happened.
00:45:17.000Cody Wilson, who is awesome, who's the guy behind Ghost Guns, Defense Distributed, wearing the shirt right now, he had something called Patreon and he was trying to make a Patreon alternative where people who are banned from Patreon can go there, people who are heretics.
00:45:34.000And his issue, why he had to shut it down, is because, precisely like you said, Visa or Stripe, one of the payment processes says, no, we're not doing business with you.
00:45:41.000If you can't get money from person A to person B, it's really not over the internet.
00:45:50.000I'm telling people right now, whether it's through crypto or some other mechanism, there are a lot of smart people.
00:45:57.000Who see this for the problem that it is and are taking steps to work around this.
00:46:02.000And this is something that absolutely has to happen.
00:46:04.000But I'm sure you know even better than I do people who are doing this and trying to work around so that Visa doesn't have that kind of you by the throat.
00:46:11.000And the big problem, it's very simple.
00:46:13.000Every single person that I talk to about this, not every single person, There's a few, you know, we have PocketNet, they sponsor us, they want to go full decentralized blockchain, so we're glad to have them sponsor the show when we do their shoutouts periodically.
00:46:27.000And it seems like they're truly decentralized, like, it's all on you, you're the node operator, it's yours, and that sounds like a good place to start.
00:46:35.000But a lot of these companies need to make money.
00:46:40.000And so I have people saying to me, like, you know, when I was pitching this idea of creating an open source decentralized plug-in that other, you run it yourself.
00:46:49.000And they're like, yeah, well, how do you fund that?
00:46:51.000Like, are you going to charge them a percentage fee?
00:46:53.000I was like, no, we give it away for free.
00:46:56.000Because we're socialists here at TimCast IRL, to a certain degree.
00:47:00.000Yes, I absolutely am going to take the money that, you know, some of the excess money we get, and create a system that will protect free speech and subscription services for many other people.
00:47:11.000Now, it may be that, you know, Ian downloads this package, and he creates his own website, and then his payment processor bans him.
00:47:18.000But that won't affect anybody else, and there's nothing we can do about it.
00:47:27.000I think the ultimate value here for my company and everyone else's is it protects us in the long run if everyone is on a decentralized system.
00:48:06.000It's like a browser you download like Chrome or whatever, but you go to a website and then you can comment on the website on the browser.
00:48:12.000So something like that, with like a Matrix login passport where you have your name and all your data, like who you're subscribed to, you can put your payments through that.
00:48:32.000I'll tell you my vision would be, if I upload this package to my server and press install or whatever, and you get this template, It's gonna have, you know, videos, blogs, log in, you log in, then like I on the backend have to put in my bank and all this stuff and set that up.
00:48:47.000But there will also be a networking link that when you go to it, it shows you trending websites.
00:48:53.000So if Ian has iancrossland.net running the same thing and he got a million views this week, In that networking, it's gonna be like, here's one of the biggest shows, and we can't control that.
00:49:02.000It's just an open source network protocol that tracks big channels.
00:49:06.000It could eventually create a more power you have, the more power you gain kind of thing, but ultimately, no one will be in charge.
00:50:14.000And that's, I don't know where, but so 501c3 whose mission is to create this open source subscription networking service so that people control their own Patreon.
00:50:35.000I really want to make sure we get that right.
00:50:37.000As we are seeing Facebook and Instagram ban the voice of the president, but YouTube did take down right-side broadcasting networks video of Trump giving his speech.
00:50:46.000All of these moves in big tech censorship is leading to a... It's building up power for the establishment.
00:51:17.000expresses unwavering support for Ukraine amid Russian military movements.
00:51:22.000The New York Times reports, fighting escalates in eastern Ukraine, signaling the end to another ceasefire.
00:51:28.000Ukraine and Russia issued statements Tuesday, noting the worsening of a conflict that has been on a low simmer for years with countless ceasefires.
00:51:36.000And what's fascinating about this is that before Donald Trump, this was a major move by the existing U.S.
00:51:42.000establishment, intelligence agencies, the military-industrial complex, gaining control, getting Western influence into Ukraine, and then creating this major conflict.
00:51:51.000Don't get me wrong, Putin has a lot to account for in terms of his responsibility here, the seizing of Crimea, and the assistance he's providing to the separatists in the East.
00:52:52.000I mean, of course it's not surprising.
00:52:54.000I mean, I think anyone who's even remotely red-pilled understands perfectly well there's these international networks where they work together, and Joe Biden was their guy.
00:53:03.000And here's what really bothers me about Joe Biden.
00:53:06.000This is, I think, the worst thing you can say about him, and it's something that's not even really particularly controversial.
00:53:11.000If you, in my opinion correctly, regarded the Iraq War as a mistake, right?
00:53:23.000Not only would I feel enormous guilt, I'm like, okay.
00:53:26.000I need to take mechanisms, if I'm going to still remain a chef, which I know that I would do because I killed someone, God forbid, I'm going to take steps to make sure this kind of thing never happens again because this is so beyond the pale and inappropriate.
00:53:37.000I don't know how many people died in the Iraq war, Iraqis and Americans alike.
00:53:41.000If Joe Biden says this was a mistake and you feel guilt over it, tens of thousands, about hundreds of thousands of innocent lives being, hundreds of thousands of lives, maybe not even innocent lives, but I don't think people, everyone should be killed.
00:53:54.000I would be like, all right, I'm going to make sure this doesn't happen again.
00:53:57.000I'm going to staff my White House with people who don't think this way.
00:54:01.000I'm going to make steps to kind of put fail-safes in place.
00:54:06.000I mean, the urine in his Depends wasn't dry.
00:54:14.000This is very disturbing, and I gotta tell you, you see these photos of these hippies in the 60s with the soldiers, and this girl hippie puts the daisy in the barrel.
00:54:32.000Because she's really, even though she's maybe naive and not particularly, whatever, sophisticated in her thoughts, she's like, you know what?
00:55:56.000Not realizing that, dude, maybe if we just minded our own business a little bit and worked on ourselves, people wouldn't be doing these things.
00:56:03.000Now, there are some serious challenges, though.
00:56:06.000China's expansion into many of these areas, their authoritarianism, they're trying to take over, and it seems like they're doing a heck of a good job of it, which is scary to me.
00:56:12.000Because if they end up as the global power, I don't like the idea of them gaining influence over us, but it seems like it's happening either way.
00:56:19.000But the thing is, they're not gaining influence over us through militarily.
00:56:23.000They're gaining influence the same way the Soviet Union did, through surreptitious means, through intelligence, and through journalism, and getting the right people who are fans of theirs to some extent, or at least neutral, in the right positions of power.
00:56:39.000China is not going to fight the U.S., maybe through a proxy war like the Korean War, but it's not going to be like a World War III, God forbid.
00:56:45.000But they are going to do mechanisms to make sure that their opinions are presented as unarguable with in the States.
00:56:52.000Shout out to The Fourth Turning, which you're familiar with, I believe, yes?
00:57:51.000They wrote this book 20 years ago, and they did predict a certain amount of things, and a certain amount of things they got wrong, because that's typically the case when someone's speculating.
00:57:58.000But the general idea is, it's actually really simple to explain.
00:58:02.000Strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times, hard times make strong men.
00:58:27.000And so that's kind of the general idea, that we're now entering this period where you have a bunch of very entitled people who simultaneously complain about the police but then demand that the state be given more power over many other aspects of their lives.
00:58:38.000There's a lack of logic in a lot of what their decision-making is.
00:58:51.000The problem is that people tend to, and it's not always incorrect, they base the future off of the past.
00:58:57.000We should look to the past to try and understand what will happen in the future, but there's many things you can't predict because of a change in methodology and technologies.
00:59:04.000To clarify, as many people think Strauss' Howe Generational Theory is predicting a massive world war with China, Strauss' Howe Generational Theory says that each war is fought with the most powerful weapons of the time.
00:59:15.000The question we rose on the show is, and that might be social media.
01:00:25.000So what the most powerful weapon is of today is not firing a nuke.
01:00:29.000It's China getting a bunch of sock puppets and bots across social media to undermine cohesion in the United States.
01:00:35.000I'm all for undermining cohesion in the United States, as you know.
01:00:38.000I'm for breaking this country up, so that sounds like a good thing to me.
01:00:41.000I'm just going to take a step back about this book.
01:00:43.000There's a book I recommend everyone read by Arthur Herman, who's an amazing historian.
01:00:48.000His first book was called The Idea of Decline in Western History.
01:00:51.000And what he goes through is every 20 years, there's a new sect that says, we're at the end of history.
01:00:58.000It's very millenarianism in the Christian sense, like it's all going to come down, get your bootstraps ready, and whether it's the Hitler version or whether it's the Greta Thunberg version, it's always right now it's the end times and somehow it never is the Armageddon.
01:01:12.000So I'm very skeptical of these books where the conclusion always is now is when things are going to hit the fan.
01:01:18.000It's always now when things are about to hit the fan.
01:01:39.000This is the craziest thing, because I didn't know this until someone superchatted us that the Mark of the Beast was literally saying you couldn't buy or sell without it.
01:02:13.000People are saying that, like, the prophecy of the lady with this star... Before Babylon, yeah.
01:02:17.000Yeah, they're like, it's Venus and the moon and whatever, and it's like, you're looking for patterns, like you were just saying a moment ago.
01:02:49.000It's a bad idea regardless of the mark of the beast.
01:02:51.000And the problem is I'm a fan of hers because I like anyone who's a loon, who says things that are just... It's much more effective to get your position across in politics if you come across as unreasonable than if you're trying to sit down and have a discussion.
01:03:48.000When it came to foreign policy, people were like, you can't negotiate with this guy because, you know, he's out of it.
01:03:54.000And so that put pressure on these other world leaders where it's like, what do you do when you have to negotiate for the best of your country and you're with Donald Trump who's gonna go, excuse me, no, no, I don't know what that is, we're not, no, no, no.
01:05:01.000If you say that the Rothschilds are building lasers to change the weather, I get how you're sorry you said it, but what I don't get is, walk me through how you got there and why you no longer are going there.
01:05:17.000So are you saying that it's quite possible that she's just saying that and she really still believes in the space lasers changing the weather?
01:05:23.000If you believe that space lasers changed the weather as is your prerogative, what changed your mind?
01:05:41.000I guess the issue is when you claim the Rothschilds were doing it, you know, instead of like, it was like a University of Berlin or something was like, hey, we just realized this thing happens when you point lasers at the sky.
01:05:51.000No, no, I just think it's like, What you need to understand about the insidiousness of these conspiracy theories is how they come from a little seed of truth.
01:06:00.000And then someone pours Gatorade on them because that's what plants crave.
01:06:04.000And then they end up with some wacky idea.
01:06:07.000They can't figure out why things aren't working properly.
01:06:09.000And also in their defense, we've all played telephone, right?
01:06:12.000So I can't tell you the number of times when someone reads an article and then they'll just repeat it and it's like, that's not what the article said at all.
01:06:20.000I've had people accuse me, because I wrote a book called The New Right, of portraying myself as having invented it.
01:06:25.000I'm like, what are you perceiving, me having said that, that you're getting to this conclusion?
01:06:31.000Other than the Rothschilds put lasers in your brain.
01:06:34.000I think AOC holds... I think it's fair to point out, thinking about space lasers from the Rothschilds for weather control is like very much out there for sure.
01:07:41.000The point is, I'm saying if you had to play roulette and the choices are Donald Trump has been a Russian agent and the Rothschilds are firing lasers to change the climate, you're saying it's a coin toss?
01:08:41.000It's not the most amount of migrants, but Reuters even said we are looking at a 20-year spike in these unaccompanied minors and illegal immigrants.
01:08:51.000We got new video from Project Veritas.
01:08:53.000Children in the dirt under a bridge near McAllen.
01:09:08.000There is a lot of sexual assaults in these.
01:09:11.000When you have lots of people who have not citizens, who have no access to the legal system, you don't know who the heck they are, they're locked in close confinement with other people, like in a prison, you're going to have large numbers of assaults.
01:09:24.000And that, to me, is what I find extremely disturbing.
01:09:28.000And if you actually were concerned about these people who are being held in these locations, that should be your priority number one.
01:09:46.000I would prefer... I can't say what I prefer regarding government because we get banned.
01:09:53.000All right, just like, we won't go to the moon with it, but if you're like looking at two people and you're like, you can have the person who's lying or the person who's crazy, what do you do?
01:10:03.000I would rather have the person who's lying because the person who's lying is still aware of reality and acting in accordance with it.
01:10:10.000Whereas the person who's crazy, it is a bell curve.
01:10:13.000And if you go for standard deviations, you might have things like nuclear war or really the truth.
01:10:19.000I agree because the point I wanted to get to is with a liar like AOC, if she was given
01:10:23.000unlimited resources, she would implement some really wacky, crazy system where she tries
01:10:29.000But at least it would be like healthcare that people just kind of are upset with.
01:10:33.000Or generally bad things that still exist in reality.
01:10:36.000If you took someone who was absolutely crazy, and I'm not trying to imply Marjorie Taylor Greene would do this, but if you had somebody who believed that there was, like, you know, Nazis on the far side of the moon, with unlimited resources, they would get us building rockets to the moon to go fight people who aren't there, and that would just... I might rather have rockets to the moon than, like, socialized healthcare, because less people are dying.
01:12:02.000That's the tragedy of the commons, is that when no one owns it, then no one feels responsibility for it, and then everyone just takes whatever resources they can, and then it becomes destroyed.
01:12:14.000There's a logical hole here whenever I have these conversations with libertarians and objectivists about owning water.
01:12:20.000So you're familiar with the Cuyahoga River?
01:12:48.000The Chinese paddlefish, which I think is the second or the largest freshwater fish, has now gone extinct.
01:12:54.000The pollution, when you have a heavy centralized economy, which leads to poverty, means that government now is trying to pull resources from whatever it can, because otherwise the people are starving.
01:13:06.000So when you have a bougie society, a whole food society, those are the ones who care and have the ability and wealth to preserve the environment, to preserve things like rivers.
01:13:20.000No environmentalist or anyone on earth is going to have an easy solution when you're talking about water, which moves and, you know, upstream and weather and things like that.
01:13:31.000Other than having a culture where this is revered and something that people care about.
01:13:36.000So I'm very much in favor of environmental regulations.
01:13:40.000I don't know if the solutions to the world are always going to be easy or as clear-cut, but have you ever seen this video?
01:13:45.000I think it's a YouTube channel called GrayStillPlays, I think it's called, where it's a game, I think it's called City State.
01:13:51.000And he decided to just make it pure anarchy.
01:13:55.000And he thought it was going to be a bunch of wealthy oligarchs and a bunch of poor people and drugs and gangs.
01:14:00.000And this video, he's a really funny YouTuber.
01:14:02.000It's really, it's a really, really great video because he's shocked by what happens.
01:14:06.000And so you watch him play the game and you watch the game played by other people and they're like, I think we need environmental regulations.
01:14:11.000Okay, let's make sure we have housing for the poor.
01:14:13.000And you get a mix of poverty and pollution and you're fighting to keep things going.
01:14:17.000So he decides he's going to have no regulations, no taxes and let people do whatever you want.
01:14:21.000And as the game progresses, there's no poverty anymore.
01:14:24.000Everyone's living in luxury and he's going, what's happening?
01:14:27.000It literally says like it's like capitalist oligarchy and there's no poor people.
01:14:32.000Everyone's homes are being built at their ski resorts everywhere.
01:14:36.000He's like, why are there so many ski resorts?
01:14:37.000Yeah, but the poor people have been made into cold cuts.
01:15:10.000They think it's a waste of time because it's not working for the culture.
01:15:13.000I forget why they specifically hated baseball, maybe because it was too American.
01:15:17.000But yeah, when you have these states where you're supposed to be working for your fellow man, any spare time, that means that's time you're taking away from poor people and hungry people.
01:16:08.000So it's not – I mean this is something that's taken a little bit out of context.
01:16:13.000Athletes in a country that's as poor as North Korea, as small as North Korea, is a great way to have reverence on the world stage because they're saying, look, we're tiny North Korea, we're the size of, well, they wouldn't use this example, the size of Pennsylvania, and we're taking on Russia.
01:16:26.000We're taking on the United, you know, the wicked U.S.
01:16:31.000I can't even finish the sentence because it's a slur.
01:16:33.000So this is a great, and also if you're coming from nothing, now it's your chance to be a hero of the entire nation.
01:16:40.000So they are very, this is a big thing during the Olympics with the Cold War.
01:16:43.000This is a very common mechanism for these states.
01:16:46.000Cuba, I talked to people who know people in the UFC who think they engage in these kind of super soldier experiments on kids to make these athletes who are later growing up to be UFC fighters because this is their, and East German, The East German women's swim team were all on a certain type of steroid.
01:17:03.000And they asked the coach, they go, why do they all have such deep voices?
01:17:07.000And the coach said, they came here to swim, not to sing.
01:17:12.000So this is very common in these centralized countries where you are basically becoming a hero because it's not expensive to become a great skateboarder.
01:17:22.000Well, don't you think that there's a... I'm surprised that skateboarding is a thing there, to be honest, because that's such a capitalist, bougie thing.
01:17:29.000I didn't realize skateboarding was an Olympic event.
01:17:31.000Well, I think its first Olympic event is going to be coming up in China, I think.
01:17:35.000And over the past decade, it's been a huge point of contention for skateboarders because I mean, skateboarders become, for a long time, very corporate, mainstream, cookie cutter.
01:17:46.000Like, a lot of the best, for a while now, a lot of the best skateboarders kind of just like, where's the fun, where's the wild, where's the anarchy, where's the punk rock?
01:18:23.000I mean, you have, I think, Ohio basically said to the ATF, like, we're not going to enforce federal gun laws.
01:18:29.000I think West Virginia just passed something similar, where they're all basically saying, even though the ATF says that they'll enforce these laws, you can't do anything about it.
01:18:37.000I went to the ATF's website reading about bump stocks because of this new court ruling that said a bump stock is not a machine gun.
01:18:43.000And they still say, no, you cannot have it.
01:18:45.000So I do find it interesting when California was legalized medicinal marijuana, the DEA
01:19:24.000I mean, I think any time you have this kind of power versus power, it just shows you that law is a myth.
01:19:29.000And all law means is what people don't appreciate is law only works if you have the will to enforce it.
01:19:36.000So a lot of times things become legal not because some politicians went in and changed the law, but because there was no political will to enforce it.
01:19:44.000At a certain point, Cuomo said this, I got paid to read his book, and he says in the book repeatedly, He says, I knew unless I got compliance from the voluntary compliance from the vast majority of the population, there was no way I could put this in place.
01:20:00.000So he's like, it was important for me to murder the elderly, but also to explain to the population.
01:20:06.000why we're putting these things into place so that they would feel comfortable doing this.
01:20:11.000So this is the big misconception is that versus 1984 versus Brave New World,
01:20:17.000so much of authoritarianism is not a function of a gun to your head like they have in North Korea.
01:20:22.000It's a function of the televangelists like John Oliver and Rachel Maddow on your TV every night.
01:20:31.000Telling you, this is good, people who don't do this are bad and evil or stupid, and good people behave in a certain way, and then you don't have to have the cost of enforcing compliance.
01:20:41.000But then, don't you think at a certain point, you know, we're talking about leisure, you end up with too much ignorance, weakness, laziness, and people who just... Well, this is, I think, the strongest criticism of capitalism, and I've come up with it and I don't have a good answer.
01:20:56.000We're, this comes from the paleo kind of diet and mindset.
01:21:01.000If you get to a point where Maslow's hierarchy of needs has been taken care of, meaning you don't have to worry
01:21:07.000about where the next meal is gonna come from.
01:21:09.000You don't have to worry about the roof of your head.
01:21:11.000You don't have to worry about your health really.
01:21:12.000Your brain is still wired to think in terms of resource scarcity.
01:21:17.000Our brains are still in terms of get more, get more, get more.
01:21:20.000And if you don't actually have problems in an evolutionary sense where no predator is going to eat you, you have plenty of food, you have shelter, your brain is going, this is my hypothesis, is going to find problems to validate its emotion in the same way that depression, anxiety, people don't realize this, the emotion comes first, the depression, the anxiety, then your brain tells you, oh, you're depressed because you don't have a job.
01:21:42.000There's plenty of people who don't have a job who aren't depressed.
01:21:44.000It's just your mind tells you exactly what it needs to do to validate this emotion to perpetuate itself.
01:21:50.000It's like in The Matrix, when Smith tells, I think he's talking to Morpheus, and he says, we gave you paradise and your brains rejected it.
01:21:58.000And I've talked about, I talked about this before, several years ago, I did a segment where I said our generation has lost purpose.
01:22:04.000And one of the reasons, and it's why one of the reasons Jordan Peterson was such a threat to the left, Because you had these kind of two factions I saw that were large factions, not necessarily the parent factions, the woke left, the social justice warriors, et cetera, people without purpose.
01:22:20.000It was their fight that must be fought, and it gave them reason for being.
01:22:23.000It also gave them status, because if I am a lowest status white person, this is the only metric I have by assuming dominance over somebody else.
01:22:31.000I could be violently anti-racist and have something to hold over somebody else.
01:22:34.000I can't compete with them on any other level.
01:23:16.000But if people found purpose from within, and they no longer found purpose from being accepted by a cult, well, then they created actual resistance.
01:23:24.000So Jordan Peterson had to be villainized in every capacity.
01:23:26.000It was incredible to watch his interviews with, I think, Kathy Newman, particularly, where she was, like, dumbfoundedly confused at what he was doing.
01:24:58.000There's no circumstance where his height would be noticeable or of interest.
01:25:02.000So if you're marginally intelligent, you might be the smartest person in the group, but no one will ever be impressed by your mind.
01:25:07.000So, we were talking about this earlier, in the George Floyd case, there's a video where the cop is walking George Floyd out of, you know, he's walking him down the street where there's surveillance footage, and the cop says something like, you've got foam on your mouth, are you on something?
01:25:23.000Then he's like, but why do you have foam on your mouth?
01:25:25.000And Floyd says, I was hooping earlier.
01:25:28.000Hoops, shooting hoops, it's a reference to basketball.
01:25:30.000PBS reported this as, you know, he'd been playing basketball, maybe he got dehydrated, whatever that means.
01:25:35.000Well, Jack Posobiec posted this, and as a joke, I pulled up the Urban Dictionary definition specifically highlighting hooping as a reference to smuggling narcotics up your, you know, your, well it's not, you know.
01:25:50.000And so, on the Urban Dictionary post, it says, get your hoop and mug, because whatever word you search for, they tell you to buy the merch for it.
01:25:58.000So I made a joke in response to him, because I've been very silly on Twitter, saying, don't forget to buy your hoop and mug, and then I showed the Urban Dictionary thing.
01:26:05.000And these leftists were like, Tim is so dumb.
01:26:08.000He doesn't know that hooping means basketball.
01:26:10.000And another person was like, for someone who claims to be from the city, it's shocking.
01:26:13.000And I said, you guys are the kind of people that thought I was serious when I said, impeach the queen.
01:26:17.000When we have people like that, they're active in the conversation, but not smart enough to perceive their sarcasm or humor or maybe the nuance to the conversation.
01:26:30.000It's like, When you mentioned they didn't want to understand Osama Bin Laden, the similarity I see there is that their only thought is smash with club.
01:26:40.000Like they see a bad guy and they go, hit with club, hit with club.
01:26:43.000And so when someone makes a joke, they go, that's the same thing as the bad guy.
01:26:47.000And you're like, there's a whole bunch of complex nuance and jokes and humor, and they lack the capability to understand and perceive this.
01:27:09.000Although they're behind their keyboards, although they're on Twitter, they're not literally dressed like Fred Flintstone.
01:27:14.000You're dealing with thousands, millions of people whose only mindset to an opponent is smash with clubs.
01:27:20.000Clubs are such a bad weapon, they're not even in Clue.
01:27:25.000This is why I'm so optimistic about the future, because you innocently just now correctly identified the nature of the enemy, and this isn't some great Terminator from the future, this is Fred Flintstone!
01:27:37.000Yes, but there are people who are smart, who have realized without principle, they don't have any to begin with, they can weaponize the hive and use it as a weapon.
01:27:48.000But humans run the country, and the world, and not bees.
01:27:51.000So I agree with you, bees are dangerous, and bees can kill people, and they're not something to be taken lightly, even in terms of insects.
01:27:56.000I'm not being facetious at all, but at a certain point, it's like, there's a ceiling.
01:28:01.000There's only so much you could do with bees.
01:28:03.000Yeah, you could have dogs that shoot bees out of their mouth, but other than that, it's... And you could also pacify the hive.
01:28:38.000So what you're saying is... Now you're Kathy Newman.
01:28:41.000So what you're saying is... So what you're saying, Michael, is that you're a pigman.
01:28:44.000So what you're saying is that you're a drone.
01:28:48.000So what we should do then is live like lobsters.
01:28:50.000Should we then speak honestly to those who we feel as perceptive and understanding, but then lie to the dumb masses to control them to gain power?
01:29:05.000No, what Michael is saying is... No, Ian, I do want to hear your response.
01:29:09.000Oh, I think we just honestly acknowledge that we are going to manipulate people with the psychic power and do it for righteousness and be honest about our own faults.
01:29:16.000No, I would say, and Hotep Jesus has this quote which is not particularly unique to him, to realize you're behind enemy lines, study what the communists did back in the 20s and 30s, study what gay people had to do for decades, and figure out how to pass.
01:29:32.000So when you're talking to someone who's... This sounds like the cop hit with club.
01:29:36.000Once you've identified you're dealing with that kind of person, you talk to them in a certain way.
01:29:41.000Once you're dealing with people who are slightly red-pilled, whether they're on the far left like Jimmy Dore or somewhere else, you know you can have a conversation and it's gonna go somewhere.
01:29:49.000So the big mistake people have, and this is a function of going to a government school where everyone's treated as one class, both in the literal class but also the same kind of population, is thinking everyone thinks like you and everyone's wired like you.
01:30:23.000Mulattoes, this has happened in the 1920s, the Harlem Renaissance.
01:30:26.000These are things that you have to study and figure out.
01:30:28.000And here's the other thing, because they're not bright, they're very big on picking up words.
01:30:33.000That's why the term for African-American used to be Afro-American, and then previous ones, which I don't even know if I can say anymore.
01:30:39.000The point is, they kept changing these terms because they would know as they roll out the new term, if you're using a new language, you're part of the in-group.
01:30:46.000So it's very easy, just adopt their language when you need to to pass, and it'll be like Terminator, they see you use the right terms, they'll leave you alone and move on, and then you can just go about your business.
01:30:57.000And it's not easy to do, but they're playing the long con, and they've had over 100 years at this.
01:31:02.000So my understanding of this stuff, having been at it for like 10 years, you're right.
01:31:08.000I've talked with some activists and made some points, legitimate points, based on their own ideology and caused people on Facebook to back down and apologize.
01:31:16.000Notably, like, there was an argument, a legitimate political argument, that I was having on Facebook.
01:31:22.000Where one person was basically talking about social justice and racial issues and critical race theory.
01:31:27.000And I started arguing against this, saying freedom, liberty, etc.
01:31:30.000And they were like, you don't understand.
01:31:31.000When I pointed out, as everybody knows the meme, that Tim Pool is actually mixed race, they immediately apologized and started arguing with me and agreeing with me because their own ideology essentially dictated it.
01:31:41.000When I said, if it is incumbent upon the minority to define something that you right now, as a white person, hear me and recognize my opinions based on my experience, and they said, I'm so sorry, I didn't realize, I guess you're right.
01:31:54.000And so it's particularly insulting, but I said that to make a point about, if you truly believe this, then wouldn't you then agree with me and argue with me?
01:32:01.000And they said, Actually, yeah, I will.
01:32:30.000It's social order, and what you're explaining, Michael, is basically... No, you misunderstand, and you gotta let me finish.
01:32:36.000So my point was, what we're being told to do is, when we're in their system, because we're behind enemy lines, we need to just speak their language, and I won't do that.
01:32:45.000They said, here's how you communicate with people.
01:32:46.000I understood the sale, I understood the pitch, and there are some circumstances where, I'll put it this way, I'll be polite.
01:32:51.000I was at a bar recently, and someone told me they were a huge fan of Kamala Harris, and instead of saying, like, Yeah, Kamala Harris is so great.
01:32:56.000I was like, I am not a fan, but I'll be polite.
01:32:59.000I don't want to, you know, get into any contentious, you know, arguments over why.
01:33:03.000And she asked me like, no, what do you think?
01:33:05.000And I was like, Kamala Harris kept, you know, minorities kept in prison beyond their sentence to use as dollar an hour slave labor for fighting wildfires.
01:33:28.000Okay, but I'm saying in general, if there's someone at a bar, and they're like, I love Kamala Harris, unless you're trying to take her to bed, it's just like, okay, lady, I don't care what you think.
01:33:34.000No, but there's issues of instances of business relationships.
01:34:23.000What someone told me is that what they would do is...
01:34:26.000Because Christians were persecuted, when they met someone, they would draw a curved line in front of them, and if the other person finished a curved line, it would make the shape of a fish, and they knew that it was safe to talk to them about what they believed.
01:34:39.000I don't know if that's actually true or not.
01:34:40.000I just was told that by some religious folk when I was, like, very young, about how it was like they had to keep this a secret, and so they would draw the fish symbol between each other.
01:34:47.000And that's like, it's an interesting idea of what you were mentioning about what people have to do to learn and navigate systems where they're basically outgroup and threatened and they could be destroyed.
01:34:55.000And also there's a huge asymmetry between cost and benefit.
01:34:59.000Like, the benefit of this person is very low, but the cost could be your life.
01:35:03.000So you really need to figure out how to do the dance.
01:35:05.000I mean, for me, I'm going to mind my own business and I'm going to keep speaking how I want to speak and I'm going to tell everyone to F off and then if they come for me, you know, I don't know, whatever.
01:35:13.000If it comes to the point where YouTube's like, you can no longer say that, like, Tim Pool is now banned to defend Kyle Rittenhouse, I'll be like, yeah, I'm banned.
01:37:13.000You know, I got a bunch of emails from people that said what I like best about Michael Malice is, and we actually hired a guy because of it.
01:37:25.000But it was also interesting that many of these people saw you tweet this You know, so for those that don't understand the context, there was a, I think you referenced someone we should hire.
01:37:37.000I recommended his username is LockoutDaze on YouTube.
01:37:40.000And then you said, you know, the email better say what I like best about Michael Malice is.
01:37:44.000And then I said, if we don't see that, we throw it in the trash as a joke.
01:37:47.000And then we got a small handful of people who were paying attention.
01:37:50.000So I was like, Attention to detail is extremely underrated in terms of hiring.
01:37:57.000And if someone's being, I hate this word, being proactive about like, well, just in case he asked this question, let me give him an answer.
01:38:03.000That's someone who's ahead of the game.
01:40:09.000And I know this argument, but it's not always an informed choice.
01:40:13.000Like, you don't know, none of us in this room, I can't speak for you guys, none of us know what it's like to go through withdrawal from heroin.
01:40:19.000So you might know theoretically, okay, withdrawal really sucks, but unless you've, like, here's a parallel example that's not going to be as political.
01:40:27.000Unless you've had to deal with suicidal ideation, you're not going to understand what that feels like.
01:40:32.000I mean, God forbid, I hope none of you ever had to deal with that.
01:40:34.000And I have to interject here because I worked in a cardiac unit and I worked with people who were withdrawing from multiple different drugs, including alcohol.
01:40:41.000They actually closed down a ward close to my house because too many babies were being born there that were already addicted to heroin.
01:40:49.000You don't know what hand you're dealt.
01:40:50.000You don't know what people are dealing with.
01:40:52.000And past a certain point, it is a physiological dependency.
01:41:35.000Yeah, if you try to donate to a candidate, if you donate to a candidate, and then I'm like, okay, now we'll give Ian money, now Ian can do it, it's called a felony.
01:41:43.000Isn't that what happened to Dinesh D'Souza?
01:41:44.000It happens to a lot of people, because basically the limit's pretty low where it was, and then it's like... 2,800?
01:41:50.000Yeah, so if it's 2,800, I'll just find, I'll be a bundler or whatever, I think this is what they were doing, I'll find 10 people, I'll write out the $28,000 check and just put down their names.
01:41:57.000So this was a workaround, but this is not something that they got away with.
01:41:59.000Yeah, no, it's a crime to do that, so... I definitely think, like, I think the gist of the conversation, especially after sleeping on it, we talked about it, my current position is, I do think it's a problem that a handful of billionaires can suppress the will of so many people.
01:42:15.000I just don't know what the solution is, because it's way too much of a complicated problem.
01:42:19.000Let's have a long conversation if I ever come on, because this is something that is very complicated, and I don't know that there is an alternative.
01:42:26.000And I don't know that the millions of people have a will.
01:43:43.000He says Malice needs a beanie that matches his tie and the difference between a fiscal elite using their money to buy advertisements and someone watching your show is the choice to watch your show versus being forced to visually imbibe the propaganda.
01:48:12.000It says if you supply someone with a substance, a controlled substance, that results in their death, it's a murder charge.
01:48:19.000He pled the fifth because the defense is going for he died from the overdose, and they were probably going to be like, and he did it.
01:48:26.000I'm not a lawyer, none of us are, but I'm going to just throw this out there because this is something I thought was pretty standard practice.
01:48:32.000You plead the fifth, what happens when they give you immunity?
01:48:41.000So they'll offer him immunity and then he'll be forced, he'll be subpoenaed and forced to testify.
01:48:46.000And then the defense will say, did you sell him these drugs?
01:48:49.000And then he'll look to the jury and say, reasonable doubt.
01:48:51.000By the way, I also want to point out this speaks to the anarchist idea that equality under the law is a complete lie, because if there was equality under the law, there's no such thing as forcing someone to testify because you can't acquit them of a crime just because you want to get somebody else.
01:50:12.000My quote, which Tim has picked up on very well, and Lydia as well, and I'm assuming Ian, is whenever I have a Trump tweet, or now he's the press releases, I say, we don't deserve him.
01:50:22.000That could be read as he's awful, or like, we don't deserve this, or that he's awesome.
01:51:02.000I was just like, I'm so sick of growing up in Chicago and seeing people just abuse and
01:51:08.000It's just like, it's very much just like a superhero movie where you watch the villain beating down the poor people and the hero comes in and he makes them stop.
01:51:15.000And I'm like, nah, dude, there's no superheroes here.
01:51:22.000Villains are real, but the superheroes are only on TV.
01:51:26.000That means you have to stand up to these people.
01:51:29.000And if everybody did, things would be different.
01:51:31.000It'd be very different if people were just brave enough.
01:51:34.000First of all, I think that's my favorite thing I've heard you say today, and I'm gonna build on that to another point.
01:51:40.000I've given a couple talks to young kids about networking, and one of my favorite pieces of advice to give them, I say, if you know someone is having their birthday, and they're not doing anything, take them out for dinner, and do it for selfish reasons.
01:51:52.000And the audience laughs, and I go, I'm serious, because the guy who takes people out for their birthday is awesome.
01:53:18.000Sunny James says, I'd love to argue about cultural issues, but I beg you, Tim or Michael, please do a segment on bio-surveillance and the powerful interests involved in backing TSA 2.0, the new fake war on germs.
01:55:48.000So when I first started getting Twitter followers and stuff during Occupy Wall Street, my initial reaction in the first week or so was anxiety.
01:56:43.000But just look at the waves of emotions that are occurring and then kind of incorporate that into how you're behaving and try and modulate.
01:56:50.000People ask me sometimes how I deal with it, and I don't think I'm good at dealing with it in this sense, because being a New Yorker all my life, if a homeless person comes up to you and starts screaming things, even if those insults are things you might be insecure about or are true, it's not going to permeate.
01:57:05.000Your only thought in your mind is, I have to get away from this homeless person before it escalates, or I don't care.
01:57:10.000So if someone comes at you on Twitter and says, blah, blah, blah, it's just like, I didn't know you existed three seconds ago.
01:57:38.000Conti says, I'm in the military and now being told that if I own any cryptocurrency I need to sell it or risk losing my security clearance.
01:58:17.000Or I mean, to be pedantic, you want to maximize the links.
01:58:20.000So if one link breaks, you've got 80 backup links.
01:58:22.000You want to maximize the amount of chains for different links.
01:58:25.000So what I'm saying is, if you have a business where you upload to three channels, then you've got, you know, all of these different companies.
01:58:33.000I guess I should say, It's not necessarily a good analogy.
01:58:37.000If you're on Locals, then it's you, two Locals.
01:58:41.000And then you have your payment processor, and then Locals has DNS.
01:58:44.000The problem is that with each and every person resting in the basket of Patreon, Locals, or Subscribestore, or any of these platforms, it's putting weight on their chain between their services.
01:58:54.000And at any point, they might be like, we gotta toss some people out of the bucket, otherwise we go down with everyone else.
01:59:00.000Minimize that so that there's one chain with a bunch of people dangling evenly.
01:59:16.000Jay Stewart says, Tim, by banning people, they divide how much support they can receive.
01:59:20.000Corporations can work together and provide a cheap central location for access.
01:59:24.000But if people want to support you and Crowder, the cost has suddenly doubled.
01:59:29.000Well, how much are you willing to put forward to defend the ideas you like or the shows that you like?
01:59:35.000I mean, there are people who spend, just without even thinking about it, they're probably spending $100 between their Disney+, their Netflix, their Hulu, and, you know, Paramount, or whatever, or CBS.
01:59:46.000How much are you willing to spend for independent channels?
01:59:49.000I think one of the problems is, and this is why we want to do shows, someone says, it's $10 a month to be a member of TimCast.com for this one show, and then it's, you know, $10 a month for Mug Club, and then it's $10 a month.
01:59:59.000Now it's like, I want five shows, and it costs me $100, whereas I can get 300 shows from one Netflix or from one Prime or whatever.
02:00:08.000So that's why I'm like, we need to have as many shows as possible under, you know, TimCast.com membership.
02:00:14.000So we're gonna have shows, we're gonna have documentaries, I'm gonna hire some reporters, we're gonna get writers, and we're gonna make this whole big, massive thing.
02:00:20.000What I was shocked at, and this is because of my senior citizen status, how many people there are who are tripping over themselves, who see, I guess this is kind of like at a restaurant, like no one doesn't tip, like it's just a given you're going to tip.
02:00:33.000How many people, and this is something that happened very recently in internet culture, are very eager to be like, I own a business, I'm a stay-at-home mom, it's important to me that you're taking those bullets in up front.
02:00:43.000So let me give you those five bucks a month because you're saying things that I can't.
02:00:47.000I didn't realize how many of those people are there and they pay my rent and I'm very, very grateful.
02:00:53.000And, you know, this is kind of my immigrant brain.
02:00:56.000If you've never met me and you're giving me that five bucks, that's like buying me a drink.
02:00:59.000That is such a sign of respect and I do not take it for granted and it really is very moving when I get to be that guy.
02:01:05.000It is like in Dragon Ball Z when Goku, needing to defeat Vegeta, summoned the energy for the Spirit Bomb, and everyone gave their energy to Goku.
02:01:46.000But if you look at, there was this footage I'm sure you probably talked about in your show, Tim.
02:01:49.000I think it was Holland or Belgium where there are people in a park and there was like an older man who's maybe 70 and there's a cop running by him on horseback clubbing him over the head.
02:02:09.000The good apples aren't the ones on the take.
02:02:11.000They're the ones who smile and nod and follow orders.
02:02:14.000And many of those orders are complete crimes.
02:02:18.000So when I say all cops are criminal, If you are enforcing a law that makes someone unsafe in their home and makes them unable to fulfill their Second Amendment rights, yes, you are a criminal.
02:03:03.000different views on things. If it makes sense. Yeah. And so you mentioned that your right to
02:03:08.000bear arms shall not be infringed and the police don't care and they'll oppress your right in New
02:03:12.000York City and I said you're right about that. And so then my opinion on 2A got pretty, hey,
02:03:16.000okay, you know what? If Fallon gets out of prison, give him his gun. Yeah. The right shall not be
02:03:21.000It doesn't say unless you're a felon doesn't say there's a lot of things It doesn't say but is it the argument that if they don't uphold a criminal law?
02:03:27.000Like go take their guns away that then they have to leave the force so that just by being there They're part of a corrupt system making them criminals or is it only when they actually enforce?
02:03:37.000There's so many laws that are complete crimes to enforce.
02:03:42.000Here's the thing, Eric Garner, when conservatives often point out that he wasn't choked, when he said, I can't breathe, I can't breathe, you know, and he died because of a heart condition, it wasn't that he was actually physically choked by the police.
02:03:53.000The point is, if there's a man selling cigarettes, and you feel comfortable walking up to him, putting your hands on him, and taking him away to a jail, you are the criminal.
02:04:35.000I mean, you've seen, I'm sure you've talked about this before, but I'm sure you've seen similar things in Occupy, where the journalists who were covering it, the independent journalists, are the ones who are being targeted.
02:04:44.000They're showing things that the cathedral doesn't want.
02:04:46.000What the city of New York does, it's brilliant.
02:04:48.000They issue press credentials from the NYPD.
02:05:12.000I'm not talking to the audience, let me just think about it, you know.
02:05:14.000Luke Rikowski, you guys know him, you love him.
02:05:16.000He did his video where he filmed one of the most notorious cops who would go after the press and things like that as like a nature documentary.
02:05:23.000You know, this guy in the wild, and he would zoom in on him.
02:05:26.000And he saw it, and one day he was like, you're the guy who made that video about me on YouTube!
02:05:29.000And it was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
02:05:31.000But like, you know, the regular press couldn't do these things.
02:05:50.000I was at Charlottesville while it was going down and we were at Outback Steakhouse with like some of the alt-right people and the surreal aspect of what was a block away from us and how it was being presented on the news was such a red pill moment that you're like looking out the window then you're looking at the screen and it's a complete disparity.
02:06:09.000That was scary to me when I was in Sweden.
02:06:13.000When all of the journalists aligned at the same time to claim, all of a sudden just, they loved me, and then the moment we got off the highway and turned and went straight to Rinkeby, then they were like, uh-oh.
02:06:24.000And then every news outlet was like, Tim Pool's a liar, a manipulator, at the same time I was like- What's Rinkeby?
02:06:29.000It's a poor neighborhood, a Somali migrant neighborhood.
02:06:34.000And so I was very much in line with their Potemkin village, the Green Party guy walks me around, everything's nice, we explain, like, you know what, these reports are just not true, they're exaggerated, and then I did my job.
02:06:46.000I reached out to a bunch of other people, I talked to some crazy people, some regular people, some left, some right, and we went with this one local journalist, and then abruptly he was like, you wanna go?
02:07:53.000He's saying that in the beginning, he saw you as a regular guy, and by the end of the show, he realizes that you're a hero who's fighting the good fight.
02:08:50.000They must really agree with your ideas about defunding police and police being criminals.
02:08:54.000Because all of a sudden they're saying things like, we got CrystalMech, he says, I walked away for one hour and suddenly your guest turns into Superman.
02:09:03.000I mean, clearly your ideas are resonating with the audience to where they just view you as a hero.
02:09:08.000Listen, it's been tough growing up for me, being this farm boy in the middle of Kansas, and now I get to be here in Springfield, Illinois, you know, with Tim Foole and all these other people, so it's very humbling.
02:09:22.000All right, Official Jim says, You opened my eyes to politics, Tim.
02:09:24.000How would I go about trying to learn and understand more?
02:09:46.000Are you someone who, even if you're like, sometimes you have to have war, do you think this is really a very mixed blessing at the best of circumstances?
02:10:32.000I use NewsGuard on purpose to make a point, and that means I'm often fact-checking these certified sources and avoiding many conservative sources because NewsGuard is biased.
02:10:42.000So what ends up happening is, on this thing it says I'm interacting with more mainstream or left-leaning stories, but in reality it's just... Let me correct this.
02:10:52.000It was ground news, as Tim Pool interacts with left-wing stories, but in reality just mainstream news sources.
02:10:58.000So you think about what that really means.
02:10:59.000Because I follow a lot of conservatives, and I tweet a lot at conservatives about a lot of things, or retweeted Ben Shapiro earlier.
02:11:05.000But the stories I tweet only come from that checkmark, which is funny.
02:11:08.000So NewsGuard, if you're listening, Take into consideration about what that means about your service.
02:11:13.000The stories I interact with have to be certified by you, because I'm trying to make a point, and then it claims I'm left biased, and I have a blind spot for the right, it says.
02:14:24.000SheathUnderwear.com And I gotta tell you in all seriousness, this is made by an Iraq War vet, and it's an independent businessman, so I'm glad, I love being able to promote a product made in America.
02:14:58.000Oh, in all seriousness, the Anarchist Handbook is going to be done in the next couple of weeks, and that'll be out, and I'm sure I can come back and talk about it.
02:15:06.000You know, I would like to point out how cut you look.
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