Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - State's Key Witness Exposed As DEALER In Chauvin Trial, FLEES Trial w-Michael Malice

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:32.000 you in possibly the most shocking thing out of the Derek Chauvin

00:00:58.000 trial in Minneapolis so far George Floyd's girlfriend told the court

00:01:04.000 as she was being questioned by the defense that this one of the state's

00:01:08.000 key witnesses a guy named a guy named Maurice Lester Hall was George Floyd

00:01:14.000 and her dealer and And he was supposed to be testifying as one of the key witnesses for the state.

00:01:20.000 Abruptly, apparently just the day before, this guy shocked the court by saying he wasn't going to testify, he wasn't going to be a witness.

00:01:27.000 In fact, he's pleading the fifth.

00:01:29.000 And this is just one big factor in the defense that we've seen so far that really makes it seem like, my friends, this is gonna be... Well, I'll put it this way.

00:01:39.000 If there is a reasonable jury that's following the evidence the same way I am, as I'm watching the court same as them and hearing a lot of the same evidence, boy, it sure does sound at the very least like reasonable doubt across the board.

00:01:51.000 I don't even think manslaughter can stick.

00:01:52.000 I really don't.

00:01:54.000 We're going to get into this story, but there's just so much to break down.

00:01:57.000 A few months prior to this incident, George Floyd had OD'd and gone to the hospital, complaining of the exact same symptoms.

00:02:04.000 Video showing George Floyd saying, I can't breathe, before he was even restrained.

00:02:08.000 I think the jury is going to see reasonable doubt, unless politics gets in the way.

00:02:11.000 So we're going to talk about all this stuff, and joining us today is none other than Michael Malice.

00:02:17.000 Thank you for having me, Tim.

00:02:18.000 You get shouted out too much on this show, so we were like, just tell him to come over.

00:02:21.000 Red Rover, Red Rover.

00:02:23.000 Say his name too many times when he's here in my house.

00:02:25.000 I'm like Beetlejuice and Candyman.

00:02:28.000 Bees, bees, bees.

00:02:30.000 All right.

00:02:32.000 And Ian's here.

00:02:33.000 I'm so glad you're here, Michael.

00:02:34.000 Yes, and I'm sporting our new I Am A Gorilla Diamond Hands t-shirt.

00:02:38.000 Let me see if I can get this in the frame.

00:02:40.000 There we go.

00:02:40.000 Perfect.

00:02:41.000 The gorilla is back and he's made a lot of money.

00:02:45.000 Well, because he knew not to sell his stonks too soon.

00:02:48.000 He had diamond hands.

00:02:49.000 But I suppose, like, you're not supposed to sell ever.

00:02:52.000 I guess he waited till it got to the moon and then sold or something.

00:02:54.000 I don't know, the joke is whatever.

00:02:55.000 It's a gorilla with money!

00:02:55.000 Buy the shirt!

00:02:56.000 TimCast.com slash shop and you can get yours.

00:02:59.000 They've actually sold a ton of these.

00:03:00.000 People love the Wall Street gorilla thing.

00:03:02.000 He's very charming.

00:03:03.000 He is, yeah.

00:03:04.000 He's super charming.

00:03:05.000 Nice smile.

00:03:05.000 And he knows the truth about Building 7.

00:03:08.000 Is that it?

00:03:09.000 Because he's in New York.

00:03:10.000 All right, Michael.

00:03:12.000 Well, that's what that's a reference to.

00:03:13.000 What?

00:03:14.000 I'm a gorilla.

00:03:16.000 No, it isn't.

00:03:16.000 It was the Ishmael book.

00:03:18.000 Yeah, but that was Alex Jones saying it on this show.

00:03:20.000 Oh, I get it, I get it, I get what you're saying.

00:03:22.000 Right, right, right, right.

00:03:22.000 He was the I in I'm a Gorilla.

00:03:24.000 The secret is, the original- I don't know if I should say this.

00:03:28.000 The original drawing was proposed as Alex Jones saying it, and I said we can't do that, because that's Alex Jones.

00:03:35.000 Like, his likeness, his business, we can't- Oh, that's true, yeah.

00:03:37.000 Has to be an actual gorilla.

00:03:39.000 But the original proposal that I got was like, so should we make an Alex Jones thing?

00:03:43.000 I was like, no, we can't do that.

00:03:45.000 It was, uh, you know, hey, it's actually just a gorilla now.

00:03:47.000 There you go.

00:03:48.000 We got Lydia.

00:03:49.000 I'm also in the corner.

00:03:50.000 Me and Michael always get up to new good when he's here.

00:03:52.000 We have a lot of fun.

00:03:53.000 You were texting Lydia during one of our episodes.

00:03:56.000 Maybe.

00:03:57.000 I'm getting her to shout you out. 0.56

00:04:00.000 She did shout me out.

00:04:01.000 My good friend, Ethan Supley, who I am shouting out, who I adore.

00:04:05.000 He was on.

00:04:06.000 I'm pals with you.

00:04:07.000 And I thought it'd be funny if she asked, what do you guys like best at Michael Palace?

00:04:12.000 And you all had easy answers.

00:04:13.000 I'm very likable.

00:04:14.000 That's right.

00:04:15.000 The most likable.

00:04:16.000 My friends, we're going to get serious.

00:04:19.000 And before we do, go to TimCast.com and become a member because you will get access to exclusive members only segments.

00:04:25.000 We are very, very close to rolling out the brand new website.

00:04:28.000 I got to tell you, it looks amazing.

00:04:30.000 This company that's putting stuff together.

00:04:31.000 It's like, it's actually fancy looking.

00:04:33.000 And I'm actually, I actually just went over a treatment.

00:04:36.000 This is like basically the elevator pitch for a TV series which we might actually produce because we're going to get into the business of making culture and making shows and just being regular people that make fun things and get away from the weird culty woke stuff.

00:04:50.000 So go to TimGuest.com, become a member.

00:04:52.000 We've got a bunch of special bonus segments, but it really does help.

00:04:54.000 In the event we get banned or whatever, this is where we'll have all of our content and we've got a lot more to come.

00:04:58.000 So we're working on the vlog, the chickens are doing their chicken stuff.

00:05:01.000 We're going to make chicken cam.

00:05:02.000 We're going to put a live camera in the chicken city so that people can just tune in for no reason, just watch the chickens.

00:05:07.000 So cute.

00:05:08.000 I thought it would be hilarious.

00:05:09.000 But they've got kitten cam, they've got goat cam, aquarium cam.

00:05:12.000 It's relaxing.

00:05:13.000 It's like I won't miss them are right you'll get to watch the chickens drink the water turn around take a dump right

00:05:17.000 in their Water dish and then start drinking from it again

00:05:19.000 It's brilliant stuff watching chickens every day. I swear to God. How do they drink?

00:05:22.000 They have to like put a mouthful of yeah They like bite the water a little bit nibble it and then

00:05:27.000 they flip their heads back Yeah

00:05:28.000 and then like one of them will like stand up and pulse wings out and then just like dump right in the water and

00:05:33.000 Then turn around and start drinking again Like, right in the same spot.

00:05:36.000 It's amazing how these things survived as long as they did.

00:05:39.000 Well, what about... No, no, no, no, no.

00:05:40.000 Okay, I'm gonna get all animal here.

00:05:42.000 Okay.

00:05:45.000 Gorillas.

00:05:46.000 I worked on a book called The Paleo Manifesto with John Durant.

00:05:49.000 I edited it.

00:05:50.000 And there were gorillas in captivity.

00:05:51.000 And the problem with the gorillas is they kept eating their poop.

00:05:54.000 Or they weren't eating their poop.

00:05:56.000 They weren't?

00:05:56.000 The problem is because you're eating vegetation, it's hard to break down.

00:05:59.000 So rabbits, cows, other animals, they eat their poop to get the more nutrition.

00:06:04.000 Hold on.

00:06:05.000 Rabbits don't literally eat their poop.

00:06:07.000 It's called something else.

00:06:08.000 And apparently it's like, there's like a gland next to it or something.

00:06:11.000 I can't remember.

00:06:11.000 I was reading about this because we had rabbits a few years ago.

00:06:13.000 They do eat their poop.

00:06:14.000 But it's not the same thing as poop. 0.99

00:06:16.000 Sure, it comes out of their butt though. 0.99

00:06:18.000 Rabbits eat the thing that comes out of their butt. 1.00

00:06:21.000 It's a wad of cellulose. 0.95

00:06:24.000 Whereas cows, you know, huck it back up and then chew on it and swallow it again. 0.67

00:06:28.000 Okay, go to TimCast.com because apparently... Great conversation.

00:06:32.000 Yes.

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00:06:35.000 After the show, we'll have a members-only segment, so go ahead and do it.

00:06:38.000 Let's get serious, guys.

00:06:39.000 All about chicken husbandry.

00:06:40.000 Chicken husbandry.

00:06:41.000 We don't have a rooster, and so it's really funny when, like, the cat walks up.

00:06:43.000 The chickens don't know what to do.

00:06:44.000 There's no rooster to be like, yo, get inside, run, the cat's coming.

00:06:47.000 Wait, I'm gonna get serious.

00:06:48.000 Did you know there's a whole big controversy about chickens in, I think it's in Europe that they just banned, or in Japan?

00:06:54.000 One of these countries.

00:06:55.000 They banned chickens?

00:06:56.000 There's this book called Inside the Memory Palace, I think it was called, or something like that.

00:07:00.000 The point is, when a chicken is born, a chick, right?

00:07:03.000 All the people who breed chickens for food, they only want the females. 1.00

00:07:06.000 Right.

00:07:07.000 Because the roosters are tough.

00:07:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:07:08.000 So there are people whose job it is to take a newly hatched chick, squeeze its Whatever, it's junk. 0.99

00:07:14.000 And it looks very different, slightly different, excuse me, when it's a male or female. 0.64

00:07:18.000 And in that one second, they throw it into the shredder, or the meat grinder, or they put it aside, and that's their whole job.

00:07:26.000 People were complaining, animal rights people, you're killing 50% of the chicken population, and they just recently made it illegal.

00:07:31.000 So now they're gonna have all these surplus roosters.

00:07:33.000 And the other thing I know about chickens, I feel like Joey Tribbiani, when he got the encyclopedia, and he got volume C, The other thing is, um, what was I going to say?

00:07:42.000 I forgot already.

00:07:42.000 Something about roosters?

00:07:43.000 Roosters are hilarious, man.

00:07:44.000 Chickens are funny.

00:07:45.000 They're just funny to watch them do their chicken thing. 0.98

00:07:46.000 They're great.

00:07:47.000 They run up to us because we, like, there's so many stink bugs out here.

00:07:49.000 We just flick them in and then they, dude, it's like, it's the size of a whole pizza to these things.

00:07:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:07:54.000 And now when we walk in, they run up to us and then we try and like go and grab them.

00:07:58.000 They freak out and run screaming.

00:07:59.000 So it's just funny.

00:08:00.000 Anyway, let's talk about... You're supposed to say they're running around like chickens with their heads not cut off.

00:08:05.000 Yes.

00:08:06.000 Not cut off.

00:08:07.000 You said they're bigger now.

00:08:08.000 They're not chicks anymore? 1.00

00:08:09.000 They're pullets.

00:08:12.000 All right, enough chicken talk.

00:08:14.000 My friends, smash the like button, subscribe, hit the notification bell.

00:08:18.000 We're really close to breaking a million.

00:08:20.000 How did we just deviate for five minutes on chicken talk?

00:08:22.000 I don't know.

00:08:23.000 This conversation is so good.

00:08:24.000 Let's talk about what's going on with the Chauvin trial.

00:08:26.000 Check this out.

00:08:27.000 We got this from the Daily Mail.

00:08:29.000 George Floyd's girlfriend breaks it down in court as she reveals they were both addicted to opioids and the drugs were sold by his friend who refuses to testify at Derek Chauvin's murder trial.

00:08:38.000 I'm just gonna break this down for you.

00:08:39.000 This guy, Maurice Lester Hall, a key witness for the state, filed a shock notice on Wednesday stating that he plans to invoke the fifth against self-incrimination.

00:08:48.000 Okay.

00:08:50.000 The defense asked this woman, George Floyd's girlfriend, did George Floyd see Maurice Lester Hall a lot?

00:08:57.000 Did he hang out with him a lot?

00:08:58.000 And she was like, not a lot, every so often.

00:09:03.000 Yeah, every so often.

00:09:05.000 She said she didn't like him.

00:09:07.000 She apparently said in an affidavit, I think, because they showed her the paper saying you told the FBI this, I think it was the FBI, that Floyd had purchased the pills from this guy.

00:09:16.000 And so here we have it.

00:09:17.000 Let's think about this.

00:09:18.000 What's the kind of person that you're friends with that you only see from time to time?

00:09:22.000 Who sold you drugs in the past?

00:09:24.000 You?

00:09:24.000 What do you call that?

00:09:25.000 I call him Tim.

00:09:27.000 If anyone would, it's gonna be you, not me. 0.90

00:09:30.000 Like a drug dealer.

00:09:31.000 Yeah, that's exactly what it sounded like.

00:09:34.000 I got a guy.

00:09:36.000 So George Floyd sitting in the vehicle with this guy.

00:09:38.000 He's sitting in the vehicle with this guy.

00:09:40.000 The guy's in the car with them?

00:09:41.000 Yes.

00:09:42.000 And Judge Cahill said in September, back when they were preparing this stuff, the evidence that was presented by defense, it looks like Floyd had a tablet in his mouth.

00:09:52.000 The judge said that.

00:09:54.000 So let's put these things together.

00:09:56.000 The dude Moise Lester Hall is in the shop on surveillance footage and the Daily Mail pulled one of the clips and he's dropping something in Floyd's hand.

00:10:05.000 The clerk says Floyd looked like he was under the influence.

00:10:09.000 He was like having trouble speaking, slurring his words.

00:10:12.000 Floyd gets in the vehicle.

00:10:14.000 He's with this guy.

00:10:15.000 Then we have, what is this?

00:10:17.000 Then we have a, that is so annoying.

00:10:18.000 Welcome to Windows.

00:10:20.000 Yeah.

00:10:21.000 I just upgraded from Windows 8.1 to 10.

00:10:23.000 It was one of the scariest experiences of my life.

00:10:25.000 All right, well, let's try and get back to the seriousness.

00:10:27.000 It's like all the suspense is building up, and then Windows goes boop, boop, boop.

00:10:30.000 All right, check it out, check it out, check it out.

00:10:32.000 That's him telling us we shouldn't talk about this.

00:10:33.000 Right, right, right.

00:10:35.000 So Floyd's in the store with this guy, Maurice Lester Hall.

00:10:39.000 Clerk says that he appears to be under the influence.

00:10:42.000 You can see Maurice Lester Hall hand him something.

00:10:44.000 Maybe he was giving him some change.

00:10:45.000 We don't know what it was.

00:10:46.000 Sure.

00:10:46.000 There's no reason to assume, you know, anything.

00:10:49.000 And Floyd gets in the vehicle with him.

00:10:50.000 They're in this SUV.

00:10:52.000 The clerk said he took this counterfeit 20 and at first he was like, I'll just eat it because his boss was like, if you take counterfeit money, you got to pay for it.

00:11:00.000 And then he thought about it and was like, I can't do that.

00:11:02.000 Went to his manager and said, what do I do?

00:11:03.000 He said, call the cops.

00:11:05.000 When the cop approaches the vehicle, you can see it in the body camera footage.

00:11:08.000 Floyd's got something on his tongue.

00:11:10.000 We don't know what it is.

00:11:11.000 The judge said, I think the judge said it looked like a tablet.

00:11:13.000 It looked like something was on his tongue and then it was gone.

00:11:16.000 The defense brings this up.

00:11:17.000 So now you have this circumstance, and when I saw that, I was like, dude, the toxicology report showed that he had 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl in his system, 5.6 nanograms per milliliter of norfentanyl, which is a metabolite of fentanyl.

00:11:31.000 My understanding in this context means that it's the fentanyl that's breaking down in his body.

00:11:37.000 It could potentially be a precursor substance that people use, we don't know for sure, but Well, Lydia pulled this up the other day on the show, when mixing drugs, a lethal dose of fentanyl can be 7 nanograms per milliliter.

00:11:49.000 This guy had 11, and 5.6 of nor-fentanyl.

00:11:51.000 Can we talk about this for a second?

00:11:52.000 Because I only learned today, when Lydia picked me up from the airport, why people actually use fentanyl.

00:11:58.000 I had been under the impression, this is how much of a straight-a-jam, that they're trying to buy heroin, Instead of getting heroin, they're getting fentanyl and they're getting killed.

00:12:06.000 I didn't realize that people intentionally take fentanyl and it has some kind of a purpose.

00:12:10.000 Can you explain that a little bit?

00:12:12.000 It's a medication.

00:12:13.000 It's an opioid.

00:12:15.000 So it is used kind of like Percocet or something like that.

00:12:18.000 My understanding is that, yeah, it's a medication.

00:12:22.000 But I'll say this outright, man, just to get started.

00:12:25.000 This story breaks my heart.

00:12:27.000 The story told by the girlfriend is that she and Floyd had chronic injury, chronic pain.

00:12:32.000 And so they were prescribed opioids.

00:12:34.000 And then like many Americans, they became addicted to it.

00:12:39.000 So after their prescriptions cleared, they have a physiological dependence to this.

00:12:43.000 And then we criminalize the fact that they're hooked on something their doctor made them, told them to take.

00:12:48.000 Can we also explain to people, like, because I've had my wisdom teeth, maybe other people haven't.

00:12:51.000 I have.

00:12:51.000 When you take like Percocet or something like this, they don't understand that it's a painkiller, but pain is obviously, it's not literally happening in your arm or your mouth, it's happening in your mind.

00:13:00.000 Yeah.

00:13:00.000 Right.

00:13:00.000 So what these painkillers do, you're sitting there and it's like you're on a cloud.

00:13:04.000 You know the expression, not feeling any pain?

00:13:07.000 It affects your psychology and your mood.

00:13:10.000 And you could be sitting just staring at Ian, staring at you, Tim, and just feeling really mellow and relaxed.

00:13:15.000 And it's very easy to see how this can become hyper addictive.

00:13:19.000 Because if you tell someone, all you have to do is take this pill and for hours, you're just going to feel relaxed and happy and have pure bliss.

00:13:27.000 You're not going to think, well the doctor gave it to me, obviously it can't be that dangerous, why wouldn't it?

00:13:32.000 And then you get a physiological dependence.

00:13:33.000 And then, because what happens if you stop, you know, it's kind of like stopping short in a car.

00:13:37.000 I've had a friend who was a former heroin addict, and your body starts freaking out because it's not in a position to make that happy juice or serotonin or whatever it is, and now you're in panic.

00:13:47.000 Cause you're like, if I don't get that feeling back, like it's like fight or flight.

00:13:51.000 Your body's in it.

00:13:52.000 So it's very slippery, dangerous slope.

00:13:54.000 It's not just that.

00:13:55.000 It's that you level out.

00:13:57.000 Like the first time you take it, it feels really good.

00:14:00.000 Eventually you normalize.

00:14:01.000 And if you stop taking it, you go down.

00:14:03.000 So I had been prescribed Percocets, uh, several years ago and they gave me, I think they gave me like 15 or so.

00:14:11.000 I took two and then I stopped.

00:14:13.000 It was terrifying.

00:14:14.000 You know why?

00:14:15.000 It was the, it was the greatest feeling.

00:14:17.000 And I was like, I do not like this man.

00:14:19.000 And that stuff's like light compared to fentanyl.

00:14:22.000 Is that right?

00:14:23.000 Yeah, fentanyl's super concentrated.

00:14:26.000 So listen, listen.

00:14:27.000 Here's a dude who is now in his car.

00:14:30.000 He's OD'd before.

00:14:31.000 He's scared.

00:14:33.000 He's gonna go to jail.

00:14:34.000 The cops are here.

00:14:36.000 Like, dude, I think it's insane that we criminalize people who have a physiological dependence after a doctor gave a medication.

00:14:42.000 You know, Trump ran on this, ending the opioid crisis.

00:14:45.000 So now he panics, and it seems, based on the story, he was with his dealer, he was buying drugs, cops showed up, he ate him.

00:14:53.000 That's what it seems like.

00:14:53.000 But here's the other thing about decriminalization, you know, obviously I'm an anarchist and this is my view, but what people don't appreciate when we talk about decriminalizing drugs, It's the harder drugs that are the most in need of decriminalization because those are the most at-risk people who need to have access to resources, who need to not be worried about being locked in prison with rapists and murderers.

00:15:13.000 When you're in that state of withdrawal, you're not thinking completely rationally.

00:15:18.000 Your brain's only thought is, make this feeling you're feeling go away right now.

00:15:22.000 And after a while, you're stealing from your family, you're breaking into places, you're doing things you would never otherwise do.

00:15:27.000 And it's easy to say, just go cold turkey.

00:15:29.000 If anyone has had writer's block, if anyone's been at the gym and you don't feel like working out, imagine that times a thousand, because your brain is screaming at you, being very articulate.

00:15:38.000 You need to do what you need to do to get this feeling back.

00:15:41.000 So it's those are the people who need kind of help.

00:15:44.000 And also, it's very dangerous.

00:15:46.000 You can die.

00:15:47.000 Yeah, to put someone like this in prison.

00:15:49.000 Well, so if you're physiologically dependent from an addiction to something like opioids, and you don't get it, you can die from withdrawal.

00:15:57.000 You absolutely can.

00:15:58.000 It's brutal, shocking pain.

00:16:00.000 And so, look.

00:16:02.000 He was driving.

00:16:03.000 I get it.

00:16:04.000 I get it, man.

00:16:04.000 You break the law, you break the law.

00:16:06.000 Sure.

00:16:06.000 Right?

00:16:06.000 And so, I think what we need to do is we need to reform the system.

00:16:09.000 The problem I have with this is now, it's looking to me like Chauvin's gonna get acquitted, and it's also looking like he should be.

00:16:15.000 But it's also looking like the state is responsible for all of it.

00:16:19.000 The problem here is that the state is prosecuting Chauvin as a scapegoat for their broken system with the war on drugs and for their broken policies where they train the police to do this maneuver with the knee.

00:16:32.000 So if you got a problem with the knee on the neck, I hear you.

00:16:34.000 I hear you.

00:16:35.000 It was the police that told him to do it.

00:16:37.000 If you've got a problem with Floyd getting arrested, I agree, man, it's the war on drugs.

00:16:42.000 Imagine if someone walked up, and imagine if it wasn't a criminal act to be addicted or to be buying the substances, or at the very least you knew the penalty was a light stint in rehab or a clinic.

00:16:55.000 Floyd would not have panicked the way he would.

00:16:58.000 The chaos would not have ensued.

00:16:59.000 I get it.

00:17:00.000 There's a $20 bill.

00:17:01.000 I can't believe someone lost their life over a $20 bill.

00:17:03.000 Let's talk a little further.

00:17:04.000 All money's counterfeit.

00:17:07.000 There's no reason for this $20 bill.

00:17:10.000 It used to be backed by gold, meaning I can go to a store or whatever the bank and say, I want $20 worth of gold instead of this bill.

00:17:17.000 FDR, when he became president, broke every contract in America unilaterally because the contract said, Tim, you're going to paint my house for $500 or the gold equivalent.

00:17:28.000 And if it was super inflation, I'm like, you know what?

00:17:30.000 I don't want the 500.

00:17:31.000 Give me the gold.

00:17:32.000 FDR said all those clauses are illegal.

00:17:34.000 Not only did he do that, he made it illegal for anyone to own gold.

00:17:37.000 Right.

00:17:37.000 So they really made sure that gold couldn't be used as a base of currency.

00:17:41.000 And only now, let me just finish my thought.

00:17:43.000 Only now, thanks to things like Ethereum, crypto, Bitcoin, are there ways for people to store money.

00:17:48.000 It's not the same as gold, obviously, but these are a better store than politicians who could print at will.

00:17:55.000 And if everyone listened to me and bought Ethereum when I was in the show and said to buy it, they would have been up like two and a half times the money.

00:18:00.000 Dude, all time high.

00:18:02.000 As of yesterday.

00:18:03.000 So the glasses aren't just for show.

00:18:06.000 Dapper.

00:18:07.000 So, look, back to George Floyd.

00:18:10.000 My view is I wish our criminal justice system was rehabilitative and not retribution or just punitive.

00:18:18.000 Like, okay, we're mad you did this, so put him in a box.

00:18:21.000 Can we talk about this also?

00:18:22.000 I don't want to interrupt you.

00:18:23.000 A lot of times conservatives are like, the guy, point out correctly, point correctly, this guy pointed a gun at a pregnant woman during an armed robbery.

00:18:30.000 It's like, well, if that's the case, then he shouldn't be on the street either.

00:18:33.000 So no matter which way you cut it, this is a screwed up situation.

00:18:37.000 What, you mean Floyd did? 0.59

00:18:38.000 Yeah, if someone is this much of a violent criminal, then they should at least be... Like, we have a sex offenders registry.

00:18:44.000 Why is there not some kind of violent criminal offenders registry when someone's doing something that egregious?

00:18:48.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:18:48.000 We were talking about gun control, and I said, if you pay your debt to society, you get your gun back, you get your vote back.

00:18:54.000 And so a lot of people said, yeah, but if you're violent, and I'm like, well then if this, if you've, listen, so you're talking about an extended sentence.

00:19:01.000 That's just not, okay, by all means, argue that.

00:19:03.000 I'm saying literally, if they're like, you did this, so your punishment is five years.

00:19:07.000 Five years later, you get out, congratulations, here's your gun, here's your voter registration ID card, or whatever you need.

00:19:11.000 Well, they don't do voter ID, but you get the point.

00:19:13.000 So maybe there would be a list or so.

00:19:16.000 I'm still not necessarily a big fan, but I understand the idea.

00:19:19.000 And ultimately what I'm saying is, listen, the most violent criminals are always the presidents in the Senate because they're the ones who declare war.

00:19:28.000 Look how much blood is on their hands. 0.78

00:19:30.000 The state is at fault.

00:19:32.000 Yes, they paid out.

00:19:33.000 And hold on, but they're the ones prosecuting right now. 1.00

00:19:36.000 Imagine realizing this when the leftists chant the whole damn system is guilty as hell. 0.99

00:19:42.000 I'm like right here with you. 0.99

00:19:43.000 We got a problem here.

00:19:45.000 The war on drugs doesn't work.

00:19:46.000 It's never worked.

00:19:46.000 It's creating criminals out of victims.

00:19:49.000 Look, I understand there's violent crime.

00:19:50.000 I was tweeting up a storm during Trump saying Trump should pardon every non-violent drug offender with some review because some might plead down.

00:19:57.000 But the general idea is if you were a non-violent drug offender, that's the only thing you did.

00:20:02.000 Get them out of there.

00:20:02.000 Get them some help.

00:20:04.000 Have someone give them a talking to and help them work through their withdrawals and their addictions.

00:20:08.000 That's what I was all about.

00:20:09.000 So the system is putting these people in prison, making them hardened criminals, making it so they can't vote.

00:20:14.000 I think the system is broken.

00:20:16.000 Now the problem is, they're demanding the state that is at fault Put Chauvin on trial, an individual officer, working as an individual for the state who was told to do something by the state.

00:20:25.000 I have a problem with that.

00:20:27.000 If we as a community say, we need people to be working on behalf of the state to enforce the law, and then the individual says, I'm willing to do that, and then we say, okay, but you have no legal protections in the event that we actually end up saying we don't like what the state is doing.

00:20:41.000 Change the state itself, but don't, as a community, ask someone to do something and then get mad when they do it.

00:20:47.000 You see what I'm saying?

00:20:48.000 Yeah, I just don't agree.

00:20:49.000 I know you're an anarchist.

00:20:50.000 Yeah.

00:20:51.000 My point is like most people seem to like the police.

00:20:55.000 I know your opinion and we'll definitely talk about it because I think it's fascinating.

00:20:58.000 I don't think that that that's factual that most people like the police.

00:21:01.000 I think it's very dependent on your environment.

00:21:04.000 Also, the idea of the police and the individual police is a different thing, too.

00:21:08.000 Yes.

00:21:08.000 Just like everyone hates politicians, but they like their congressman.

00:21:11.000 Yeah.

00:21:12.000 So so maybe look where I was in Chicago.

00:21:17.000 Nobody liked cops.

00:21:18.000 Where I was... Can I ask you, were they wrong?

00:21:20.000 Are the cops in Chicago the kind, decent, normal people, or are they... Okay, there's my answer.

00:21:27.000 No, but you know what I'm saying?

00:21:29.000 The reputation of the police in Chicago.

00:21:31.000 But let me clarify.

00:21:33.000 I had been saved from a mugging by cops, where they literally grabbed the mugger and slammed him against the wall.

00:21:39.000 You were only mugged because you're unarmed because of the police.

00:21:42.000 Yeah.

00:21:43.000 That mugging was caused by the police.

00:21:46.000 So we did a bonus segment yesterday with Jack Murphy.

00:21:48.000 Are we allowed to show that?

00:21:49.000 I don't know.

00:21:50.000 Okay, but whatever.

00:21:54.000 I guess you could call it that.

00:21:55.000 No, but my point is you're outspoken about exercising second amendment rights.

00:22:02.000 The other day on the bonus segment, you guys are going to want to watch this if you want to see me scream at the top of my lungs.

00:22:05.000 It was one of the best we've ever done.

00:22:06.000 Spicy.

00:22:07.000 I was basically saying the problem with Chicago is that they banned guns.

00:22:12.000 And so, long story short, Jack said about this incident in D.C.

00:22:16.000 where this guy gets carjacked.

00:22:17.000 Yeah.

00:22:17.000 The car flips over and he dies.

00:22:19.000 He should have just given the car up.

00:22:21.000 And I said, no, he should not have just given his car up.

00:22:23.000 And Jack made a good point.

00:22:24.000 You know, don't you think his kids would prefer it if he lived, if he just gave that car away? 0.89

00:22:28.000 And I said, if every single person looked dead in the eyes, the criminal attempting to harass or oppress them and said, I will blow your head off if you go near me.

00:22:36.000 This would stop.

00:22:37.000 The problem is, in Chicago for instance, they make it illegal to own guns.

00:22:41.000 And so what happens then, is the criminals know you can't do anything, and they can point a gun at you, and then the cops tell you.

00:22:47.000 They tell you this.

00:22:47.000 You know what you do?

00:22:48.000 The officers say, just make sure you comply with everything they want.

00:22:52.000 You know what I said?

00:22:52.000 No.

00:22:54.000 So when the guy tried mugging me, I laughed.

00:22:55.000 I just kept walking.

00:22:56.000 And I just basically ignored him.

00:22:58.000 I was like, dude, first of all, I'm broke.

00:23:00.000 I don't have any money.

00:23:01.000 And he threatened me with a knife, and I just laughed.

00:23:03.000 I'm like, I'm not gonna do anything.

00:23:05.000 The point is, if people had the right to defend themselves, and someone walked up to you and said, give me your stuff, you'd be like, oh, I got something for you.

00:23:12.000 It's called a .45.

00:23:13.000 Sometimes.

00:23:14.000 But there is tactical retreat in the art of war.

00:23:16.000 You don't want to let someone goad you into combat.

00:23:18.000 You don't escalate.

00:23:18.000 Yeah, that's great.

00:23:20.000 Maaj Toure, who's great.

00:23:20.000 I don't know if you've had him on the show.

00:23:22.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:23:22.000 Black Guns Matter.

00:23:23.000 Shout out to Maaj.

00:23:25.000 He does workshops where he talks about de-escalation.

00:23:28.000 And I think this is something that is very important.

00:23:30.000 And I'm saying this as someone born in the Soviet Union.

00:23:32.000 It's very important for people, especially young males, especially low status young males, to be educated.

00:23:39.000 And be told, you know what, if you take a step back, you're not a coward, you're not a woman, you're not whatever pejorative you want to use.

00:23:46.000 Sometimes it's okay to be like, you know what, fine, this is not going to escalate, because Jeanette Rankin, who was the only member of Congress to vote against World War I and World War II, she said, you don't win a war any more than you win a hurricane.

00:24:00.000 But it's kind of like a knife fight or a gun fight.

00:24:03.000 It's going to end ugly.

00:24:04.000 At the very least, even in a free society, you're going to have to sit down and adjudicate and say, I drew this gun on this person for this reason.

00:24:11.000 I'm not a threat.

00:24:12.000 I shouldn't have my gun rights revoked.

00:24:15.000 So I'm not talking about a fight over honor, which is a lot of what happens in Chicago, where two guys refuse to back down because of their honor.

00:24:23.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:24:24.000 You know, don't die for pride.

00:24:25.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:26.000 I'm talking about you're, you know, a guy, you got a couple of kids and you're with your wife and the state says you can't have guns anymore.

00:24:32.000 And you know, you live in Chirac.

00:24:34.000 So, you know, a lot of people in Chicago do.

00:24:36.000 They go and illegally buy them anyway.

00:24:37.000 Of course.

00:24:38.000 And there's a lot of good, you know, hardworking families with no criminal history who are, who are in felony possession of firearms because they refuse to be victims to these gangs who terrorize their neighborhoods.

00:24:49.000 And who's enforcing these laws?

00:24:51.000 The state and the police.

00:24:52.000 Okay.

00:24:53.000 So what do you think should be done when someone takes an oath to uphold the Constitution, and in violating that oath, they leave poor, helpless people defenseless in their homes?

00:25:03.000 Do you think these people should be respected?

00:25:04.000 No.

00:25:05.000 Okay.

00:25:06.000 My work here is done.

00:25:07.000 I'm out of here.

00:25:09.000 But we agree.

00:25:10.000 I think there needs to be heavy reform, and the problem is social enforcement.

00:25:15.000 Yes.

00:25:15.000 The fact that the police will face no repercussions for this.

00:25:19.000 So it used to be the cop would show up and they get a free hot dog.

00:25:23.000 Now we're hearing a lot that they don't.

00:25:24.000 But the problem is it's not for the right reasons.

00:25:26.000 So bringing it back to Chauvin, my point is this.

00:25:28.000 If the left said, I don't care about Chauvin.

00:25:31.000 I care about the police department.

00:25:33.000 I care about the laws.

00:25:35.000 The war on drugs doesn't work.

00:25:37.000 People who should not be criminals are being criminalized.

00:25:40.000 Unfortunately, there's big gaps in the logical consistency of many, many people.

00:25:45.000 And I assure you, I recognize this.

00:25:46.000 I have it as well as him as anybody.

00:25:47.000 Sure, we all do.

00:25:47.000 Yes, of course.

00:25:48.000 But when you have people who say... There was something posted by Rachel Maddow.

00:25:54.000 It said people who would take the rights from others deserve none themselves or whatever.

00:25:59.000 And so I tweeted, Rachel Maddow agrees all gun control should be abolished. 0.88

00:26:04.000 Yeah.

00:26:04.000 yeah because what she doesn't understand is that she regularly advocate for

00:26:08.000 taking people's rights away she understands short short so these the amount a lot of these people on

00:26:13.000 the left many the progressives they're actually pro-gun that's

00:26:16.000 absolutely are like the socialist rifle association types and then there's

00:26:19.000 a decent overlap with many is and if a people

00:26:21.000 some is and if the people recently arrested in portland were armed with

00:26:24.000 guns so that the market the the marxists are very pro-gun because the argument 0.60

00:26:28.000 I'm writing about this in my upcoming book, The White Pill.

00:26:32.000 There's a myth among the boomer conservatives that gun control started as a result of they didn't want black people to become armed post-Civil War.

00:26:41.000 It actually started in Illinois.

00:26:43.000 Because a lot of these labor unions were forming militias and they were drilling because they were ready to start a revolution.

00:26:51.000 And this was a big problem.

00:26:52.000 It's like, wait a minute, the Second Amendment specifically says you should have a militia.

00:26:56.000 They're forming labor militias in the idea of eventually killing the capitalists and taking over.

00:27:00.000 And this was a huge Supreme Court case and they lost.

00:27:03.000 And that's where gun control really kind of started.

00:27:05.000 What year was it?

00:27:06.000 I think 1870 or something?

00:27:09.000 And then within a couple decades, what was it called?

00:27:11.000 The Haymarket Massacre?

00:27:12.000 Was that what it was called?

00:27:13.000 Don't spoil my book, but yes.

00:27:14.000 The Haymarket Massacre.

00:27:16.000 That's in Chicago.

00:27:16.000 Was that in Chicago?

00:27:17.000 That is in Chicago, yes.

00:27:18.000 That's brutal.

00:27:19.000 What happened with that?

00:27:20.000 Someone threw dynamite or something?

00:27:21.000 Okay, this is the story of Louis Ling, who's on the cover of the Anarchist Handbook, which I'll be back on to talk about when it's ready, assuming I don't burn this bridge today.

00:27:30.000 Who knows?

00:27:31.000 It's a live show.

00:27:32.000 Let's start this off.

00:27:33.000 The bridge is made of glass.

00:27:33.000 So everybody understands the context.

00:27:35.000 You're saying that gun control starts with these labor unions, and now we're talking about the Haymarket Massacre.

00:27:41.000 It's a very, very quick transition.

00:27:43.000 So what happens is, in Illinois, you have these—they're very heavily immigrant, very heavily German—labor unions are forming militias, and they're mustering, I think that's the term, when they're practicing, so on and so forth.

00:27:54.000 There was a union meeting in Haymarket Square in Chicago, which is still around, and different people were talking.

00:28:01.000 At night, a bomb got thrown, dynamite.

00:28:04.000 A lot of people got killed, including several police officers.

00:28:06.000 A bunch of anarchists were rounded up, some of whom were not even there.

00:28:11.000 And they were accused of conspiracy to commit murder because they were advocating these radical ideas.

00:28:17.000 One of them was someone named Louis Ling.

00:28:18.000 If you look him up on the internet, he looks like Channing Tatum.

00:28:21.000 It looks like a contemporary photo, even though it's from 1870-something.

00:28:24.000 It's crazy.

00:28:25.000 What is it, Louis Ling?

00:28:26.000 Ling, L-I-N-G-G. 1.00

00:28:28.000 He's the stud of anarchism.

00:28:29.000 He was the first Che Guevara, basically.

00:28:31.000 Wow, you're not kidding.

00:28:32.000 I'm not, right?

00:28:33.000 I'm impressed.

00:28:33.000 Yeah, he's a hunk.

00:28:36.000 So they put these anarchists on trial.

00:28:38.000 Louis Ling, they had searched his house and there was a lot of dynamite in his house.

00:28:41.000 And his lawyer said weakly, well, he's got a right to have dynamite in his house.

00:28:45.000 This has become a meme where Louis Ling is alleged to have said, I couldn't have thrown that bomb.

00:28:49.000 I was at home making bombs because he wasn't there.

00:28:52.000 But a bomb got thrown.

00:28:54.000 They were sentenced to death.

00:28:56.000 They were all hanged.

00:28:57.000 Lewis was one of them.

00:28:59.000 Four of them were hanged, excuse me, or five.

00:29:00.000 Lewis escaped the hanging because he snuck in a blasting cap into his jail cell, blew off his jaw, and then wrote in blood on the wall, hooray for anarchy.

00:29:10.000 The others, one of them when he was being hanged said, someday the voices you strangle will be louder than the, someday the, I forget the term, whatever.

00:29:22.000 They got pardoned many years later and there's a memorial to them right now in Chicago.

00:29:26.000 But this is where a lot of it started.

00:29:27.000 The gun control stuff.

00:29:28.000 Yes.

00:29:30.000 Wow.

00:29:30.000 So the conservatives, it's funny, the ACLU also got started defending communists because it was this radical revolutionary idea.

00:29:38.000 So a lot of conservatives like to adopt these ideas and they don't realize where the origins are from the radical, radical left.

00:29:45.000 This could have been a false flag.

00:29:47.000 The law could have thrown dynamite in and blamed it on me.

00:29:49.000 That's what they said.

00:29:50.000 They said this was an agent provocateur paid for by the capitalists to get us in trouble.

00:29:56.000 And we still don't know who threw the bomb to this day.

00:29:58.000 So let's wrap this back to the origin of how we started talking about this, which was the Chauvin trial.

00:30:04.000 They're going after one guy, Derek Chauvin.

00:30:07.000 If they convict him, the state, which in my opinion is responsible, will cheer and hurrah, and all of the activists will be satisfied.

00:30:16.000 Well, probably not, but if the idea is they want Chauvin put on trial as the individual, They're ignoring what's really going on.

00:30:23.000 And I liken this to, you know, I'll put it exactly like this.

00:30:27.000 It's like, imagine if there was, you know, in fetal Japan, the ninja was tasked with taking out the emperor.

00:30:32.000 Instead, he fought with the palace guard and then celebrated when the palace guard, one of them, you know, was removed from his post.

00:30:39.000 Chauvin is just one guy who works for a system.

00:30:42.000 Getting that guy convicted won't change anything.

00:30:44.000 And he was just some guy who was doing, like, you know, he was told, here's how you restrain someone.

00:30:49.000 Now, whether or not he actually did anything wrong in that capacity, stopping Floyd, I disagree with the war on drugs, but there's arguments about what you do when there's statutory law in the books.

00:30:58.000 Derek Chauvin was trained by the Minneapolis police to do... It's called the recovery position.

00:31:04.000 That's what it said in the training thing that they released.

00:31:06.000 Because if you put your knee on their back, they could asphyxiate.

00:31:08.000 So he literally moves his knee.

00:31:10.000 Should this guy be convicted after everything we've seen with all the evidence?

00:31:13.000 Chauvin with the fentanyl in his system, with a guy who now it appears to be a dealer.

00:31:18.000 You know, he appeared to be high.

00:31:20.000 Floyd said before he was even restrained.

00:31:22.000 Did you see this?

00:31:22.000 I can't breathe.

00:31:23.000 He said it before he was even restrained.

00:31:25.000 So all of that leads to this conclusion of at least, bare minimum, reasonable doubt.

00:31:29.000 My problem, the war on drugs, first and foremost, is a big part of this.

00:31:34.000 Especially when I saw, you know, Floyd's girlfriend testify about opioid addiction and what they were going through, and I was like, this is insane, man.

00:31:41.000 That we're doing this.

00:31:42.000 The problem I have is the activists who are angry are being easily distracted and pointing at one guy.

00:31:47.000 And when he's convicted, nothing will change.

00:31:50.000 They will not do anything.

00:31:51.000 There's two things.

00:31:52.000 One, they want to make an example of him to make the other cops fall in line.

00:31:54.000 Two is, I just want to point out what the thing on the memorial is, because it's a great quote.

00:31:59.000 He said, this is August Spies, who was one of the ones who was hanged.

00:32:03.000 He says, the day will come when our silence will be more powerful than the voice you were strangling today.

00:32:08.000 So I think that's the case with a lot of people who were killed by the state.

00:32:11.000 It's that they are silenced, but what they represent, which might not actually be accurate, speaks volumes.

00:32:17.000 Yeah, well, Michael, the state realized that, so now they go for character assassination instead.

00:32:22.000 They learned a while back, and I'm surprised it took them as long as it did, to be honest. 0.95

00:32:26.000 When they were like, hey, if we got a problem, we just kill him.

00:32:28.000 And then it's like, well, congratulations, you made a martyr who's immortal now. 0.99

00:32:30.000 Right. 0.96

00:32:31.000 So they have to smear your reputation and make you a nasty diddler or something.

00:32:35.000 And then all of a sudden your legacy is destroyed and nobody wants to reference your name anymore.

00:32:39.000 And they're trying to do that with the Trump administration.

00:32:41.000 There were several articles written how they're trying to make people trying to make anyone who worked for him radioactive and unhirable.

00:32:47.000 Remember, it was tough for the former president.

00:32:49.000 I mean, your job as defense attorneys to defend child abusers, you know, murderers, rapists, like the most horrible people.

00:32:55.000 That's your job.

00:32:56.000 They were having trouble finding people to defend the sitting or at the time former president for the impeachment trial.

00:33:03.000 And now you see what Facebook said, right?

00:33:05.000 No, I did not.

00:33:06.000 The voice of the president is not allowed on their platform.

00:33:09.000 I saw that, yeah.

00:33:09.000 The voice of courage.

00:33:10.000 Lara Trump.

00:33:11.000 Yeah.

00:33:11.000 What was that?

00:33:12.000 Lara Trump, the president's daughter-in-law.

00:33:15.000 She interviewed him.

00:33:17.000 She didn't say anything particularly inflammatory.

00:33:19.000 Didn't talk about the election.

00:33:20.000 They pulled the video and they said, you cannot have Trump's voice on our site.

00:33:26.000 So they have AI just clocking Trump's voice, ready to pull it.

00:33:29.000 No, they knew.

00:33:29.000 No, apparently when she expressed her intention, they called her.

00:33:33.000 Yeah.

00:33:34.000 And they sent an email saying, like, just so you know, if you do this, you're gone.

00:33:38.000 And then she was like, I'm gonna do it anyway.

00:33:39.000 And I was like, right on.

00:33:40.000 They're trying to vanish a president from existence who's still alive.

00:33:45.000 Let me ask you, do you think that the moves being made by the establishment today are something new?

00:33:53.000 Or do you think those individuals and this power structure has always existed but slipped up?

00:33:58.000 I think they're losing their power.

00:34:00.000 I think these are the same moves.

00:34:03.000 They're trying to make people, making people radioactive has happened for a very long time in this country. 0.93

00:34:09.000 And I think they have to ramp it up because if there's three networks, ABC, CBS, NBC, the three of us can get in a room and be like, look, this guy's a clown. 0.84

00:34:17.000 We're not going to repeat him. 0.83

00:34:18.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:34:19.000 Shake hands.

00:34:20.000 That's why a lot of ideas that were kind of on the fringe would be heard by the mainstream because it's like the three of them said, yeah, we're not going to talk about it.

00:34:26.000 Now, when you have this show and infinite shows on YouTube on Rumble and all these other locations, it's impossible to have a monopoly of the megaphone. 0.95

00:34:36.000 So now they're freaking out because it's very difficult to sustain a regime based on mistruths or untruths when all it takes is one jerk with a Twitter account to be like, this isn't accurate. 0.92

00:34:48.000 And then your whole facade falls. 0.99

00:34:49.000 It's like finding out your wife has been cheating on you.

00:34:51.000 Maybe she cheated on you once, but that changes the whole 10 years.

00:34:55.000 The crazy thing about it is, you know, what we're seeing with the censorship or seeing with Steven Crowder, it's clearly insane.

00:35:02.000 And it's like every single time a new story happens, it's worse than it's been.

00:35:05.000 What do you mean by insane?

00:35:06.000 Because when I heard about this when I was doing my North Korea book, a lot of times people say insane when they just don't understand the system.

00:35:13.000 And a lot of times the system is coherent.

00:35:14.000 I mean insane as in the figurative that it's so shockingly outrageous it would make anyone think the world has gone nuts.

00:35:24.000 I just mean insane as in hyperbolic.

00:35:27.000 What is going on?

00:35:28.000 This is dialed up to 11.

00:35:30.000 Crowder broke no rule.

00:35:32.000 He did not break a single rule.

00:35:33.000 I know because I've spoken with Google representatives on the phone about their rules.

00:35:38.000 It's really interesting.

00:35:39.000 I wonder if Crowder will sue them for defamation because what they're telling people is that in these articles where people ask about Crowder, they say that he violated their deceptive policy or spam policy, but the specific email that got sent out by Google said, you can't do this particular thing.

00:35:57.000 Crowder did not do that particular thing.

00:35:59.000 He said, you can't say these two things at the same time.

00:36:00.000 Crowder did not say those two things.

00:36:02.000 But then they tell the press he violated that rule.

00:36:05.000 Well, that's a false statement of fact.

00:36:06.000 He didn't.

00:36:07.000 They claimed he... they removed a video for trying to, you know, circumvent his restriction.

00:36:12.000 He didn't.

00:36:12.000 The rules clearly state, or at least Google has said, you can upload to another channel if the content is substantially different, which it was.

00:36:20.000 He filmed a cell phone video saying, hey guys, here's what's happening.

00:36:22.000 It wasn't his normal show.

00:36:24.000 Too bad, they said.

00:36:25.000 So this is crazy, right?

00:36:27.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:36:29.000 Even if they get rid of Crowder, and it really does feel like as time goes on, they are strangling these networks.

00:36:35.000 But can I interrupt?

00:36:36.000 Because there's all these names that they've successfully picked off one by one that we forget about.

00:36:41.000 Remember Nick Monroe?

00:36:42.000 No.

00:36:43.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:36:43.000 I remember him.

00:36:44.000 I mean, he was a badass on Twitter.

00:36:46.000 Who is he?

00:36:47.000 He was a Twitter journalist, shout out to Nick if he's watching, and he would be breaking a lot of stories because there would be something in the corporate press and he would just, he was this nerdy kid with a computer and a lot of spare time and he'd do his due diligence and he'd find articles like, what you're saying is not accurate, here's the receipts.

00:37:04.000 They got rid of him.

00:37:05.000 Carpe dumped him.

00:37:06.000 Who was President Trump's meme maker.

00:37:08.000 This guy is basically making memes for the president.

00:37:11.000 Thinks they're going viral.

00:37:12.000 They yanked him.

00:37:12.000 Shout out to my friend Carpe Donctum.

00:37:14.000 So there and there's others that we can name.

00:37:16.000 Milo.

00:37:17.000 Milo was a shocking one to me.

00:37:19.000 That was a shocking to me.

00:37:21.000 Not shocking.

00:37:21.000 He put in his Twitter profile that he worked for BuzzFeed.

00:37:24.000 It was that they banned him across all the platforms.

00:37:26.000 That was the collusion.

00:37:28.000 Yes.

00:37:28.000 Right.

00:37:28.000 The fact that when it comes to these higher profile personalities, none of them should be banned, by the way.

00:37:33.000 I just don't think so.

00:37:35.000 They colluded.

00:37:36.000 or at the very least they were like waiting for the moment when they could all act in concert and for some reason did although it's not completely unified because like twitter waits a day or two before they finally do it well they waited a while for alex jones right yeah there's another one but that collusion but it it's very but the thing is like i'll play devil's advocate to some extent I don't think people appreciate how weak a lot of corporate America is, and no one wants to stick out their neck.

00:38:02.000 So it's a lot easier for me as Jack Dorsey, if YouTube and Zuckerberg are all doing this, for me to be like, there's no cost for me to join them.

00:38:10.000 But if I'm sticking my neck out, like we saw with Black Lives Matter and the guy who ran CrossFit, and he's like, this has nothing to do with us.

00:38:17.000 We're a gay exercise organization.

00:38:19.000 They're like, well, now you're the odd one out. 0.95

00:38:21.000 Yeah.

00:38:22.000 So very much groupthink does play into this as not necessarily a nefarious mindset.

00:38:26.000 Here's what I wonder.

00:38:28.000 Obviously there is a mainstream and YouTube will pick off one by one all these big channels and they're really homogenizing everything.

00:38:35.000 I don't know how long we'll last.

00:38:36.000 A lot of people are like, Tim will never get bandies to milk toast, even though Facebook already removed me.

00:38:40.000 Nick Monroe is, I mean, I'm not going to call you milk toast.

00:38:42.000 Nick Monroe was not some kind of radical.

00:38:44.000 Yeah.

00:38:44.000 They said he was circumvention.

00:38:45.000 Yeah.

00:38:46.000 But so, even after they do that, the technology, cryptocurrency, your own private websites, open source tech still exists.

00:38:55.000 Crowder has a website, he has MugClub, he's got, you know, he's with BlazeTV.

00:39:00.000 They can reduce a decent amount of his reach on their platforms.

00:39:05.000 But in the end, look at what happens when Trump gets banned off Twitter.

00:39:09.000 People start losing followers like crazy.

00:39:12.000 A lot of people were only on Twitter for the president in the first place.

00:39:15.000 When Patreon banned Carl Benjamin, who now runs the Lotus Eaters podcast, which you guys should check out, I lost a ton of support from people who are messaging me saying, dude, love your work.

00:39:25.000 But I'm here for a lot of people and I have to move now because, you know, my favorite show is, you know, Carl's show.

00:39:32.000 So I'm getting off of Patreon.

00:39:34.000 And then I had no choice.

00:39:35.000 If I stayed on, I would have lost 20 or 25% of my... Oh, so you went through that personally.

00:39:39.000 I didn't know you were on Patreon.

00:39:40.000 I was through it too.

00:39:41.000 I was on Patreon.

00:39:42.000 Then Ruben.

00:39:43.000 Then Sam Harris left.

00:39:44.000 Dave Ruben launched Locals.

00:39:45.000 Now I'm on malice.locals.com.

00:39:47.000 It's a Patreon-Facebook hybrid.

00:39:48.000 People can, it's free to join.

00:39:50.000 Five bucks if you want to contribute.

00:39:52.000 The point, look, I know you're not a fan, whatever.

00:39:53.000 The point is, I got off Patreon the second I could if there was an alternative

00:39:57.000 because it's not a sustainable career as a creative type to know that overnight I could have all my work vanished

00:40:05.000 without any recourse, without any explanation, Whereas now I can call Ruben up and be like, yo, what's

00:40:10.000 going on?

00:40:10.000 And have an actual response.

00:40:11.000 I think that's a very big difference.

00:40:13.000 And a lot of people had the ability to call Jack Conte of Patreon and do the same thing.

00:40:17.000 Okay.

00:40:17.000 I did not have that ability.

00:40:19.000 Right, right, right.

00:40:19.000 So right now, the issue I take, and look, I think Dave's great, I think he's a friend, and local sounds awesome.

00:40:26.000 My issue is, and always will be, centralizing.

00:40:31.000 Basically, joining any of these platforms means They could remove me whenever they want.

00:40:36.000 And what do you think's gonna happen?

00:40:37.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:40:38.000 Who's they?

00:40:38.000 You mean locals or me personally?

00:40:41.000 Right now, it's Dave Rubin.

00:40:42.000 He could snap his fingers and destroy your career.

00:40:44.000 I don't know about that.

00:40:46.000 Or like, um... I mean, your income, your stream, everything you've posted on locals.

00:40:50.000 But I mean, I'd be a little hyperbolic and say, career!

00:40:53.000 You've got other platforms.

00:40:53.000 I thought you meant being hyperbolic about the idea that you have a career.

00:40:58.000 Fair!

00:40:59.000 Fair!

00:40:59.000 I am here.

00:41:00.000 Fair.

00:41:02.000 But I mean, that's a function of anything.

00:41:05.000 If you're going to be a waiter, if you're going to be a chef, I mean, you're going to have some owner.

00:41:08.000 Unless you're totally self-employed.

00:41:10.000 Sure.

00:41:10.000 So reduce that amount.

00:41:11.000 Sure.

00:41:12.000 You're singing my song.

00:41:13.000 That's why we started TimCast.com.

00:41:16.000 I was like, why should I be on someone else's platform?

00:41:18.000 I should make my own.

00:41:19.000 That's a great idea.

00:41:20.000 my plan is now, we've talked about it quite a bit, Ian's recommended some developers he

00:41:24.000 might have, we're going to make an open source plugin that anyone could just drop on their

00:41:27.000 own website which creates the full package subscription model and I have no control over

00:41:31.000 it.

00:41:32.000 That's a great idea.

00:41:33.000 Absolutely.

00:41:34.000 I am going to, with this project, attempt, I will say, to destroy all of these subscription

00:41:41.000 services, every single one of them.

00:41:42.000 Let's just improve them from a distance.

00:41:43.000 And more power to you.

00:41:45.000 This is something that I get into a lot on Twitter.

00:41:48.000 People are so—because they sarcastically say, oh, just build your own Patreon, oh, just build your own website.

00:41:53.000 It's like there's a lot of smart people who are seeing these problems coming down the road.

00:41:59.000 It's hard to miss.

00:41:59.000 These problems are Godzilla-sized.

00:42:01.000 And all it's going to take is one smart person, here you go, and be like, this is going to be a workaround.

00:42:07.000 And once this problem is solved, it is solved permanently.

00:42:11.000 I'm old enough, I'm 63, to remember when the idea... I'm old enough to remember when people said the idea of, oh, make your own website, would have been an absurdity.

00:42:22.000 Now it takes 10 minutes.

00:42:24.000 10 minutes.

00:42:25.000 Yeah, you get a WordPress plugin.

00:42:26.000 And they're amazing.

00:42:27.000 Yes!

00:42:28.000 We want to start... I mean, look, you don't need a lot for your own subscription service.

00:42:32.000 Like, TimCast.com is not the biggest thing in the world.

00:42:36.000 It's a relatively simple WordPress.

00:42:38.000 From the new members we got, we were able to make a better website launching soon, which is now pro.

00:42:42.000 And from those members, we're now going to start funding TV shows, movies, and I actually read through a treatment for a show we might produce.

00:42:49.000 This is amazing stuff.

00:42:50.000 It's going to be awesome.

00:42:52.000 I want to create an open source project that someone could just install on a web server, like they find a hosting company, they install it, boom.

00:43:00.000 When you go to their website, it looks like any of these subscription services.

00:43:05.000 It's got a login, signup function, it's got a database.

00:43:08.000 Now there's some things you'll have to be responsible for, security, things like that, your own payment processors, things like that.

00:43:13.000 It'll probably be Stripe or PayPal like most people use.

00:43:15.000 But it'll be like one click, boom, package upload, your website exists.

00:43:18.000 Then you'll have all the WordPress functioning for uploading photos, and you'll have a little bit of a learning curve, but for the most part, you will have a totally decentralized Patreon system.

00:43:28.000 Let me tell you, I talked to Jack Conte of Patreon a couple times when people got banned.

00:43:35.000 And just for a lot of people who may not understand what's going on, Patreon is a subscription service.

00:43:40.000 They abruptly banned Lauren Southern, eliminating her income. 1.00

00:43:43.000 They later abruptly banned Carl Benjamin, eliminating his income.

00:43:48.000 Just so people understand, abruptly means it's not like YouTube where you get a strike.

00:43:51.000 It's like you wake up and all your names are gone.

00:43:54.000 All your money's gone.

00:43:55.000 Any money that they had in Esquire they pulled for you.

00:43:57.000 You're not seeing a penny of this.

00:43:58.000 This is very sudden and it's out of nowhere and you're not given warnings.

00:44:02.000 People need to appreciate how extreme this is.

00:44:04.000 So Lauren Southern got pulled overnight without warning, wakes up one day to find out her income stream is just gone. 1.00

00:44:11.000 Then they said, don't worry, we'll never do it again.

00:44:13.000 And then they did it again to Carl Benjamin.

00:44:16.000 What I was told, long story short, in a phone call with Jack Conde, I talked to him for a long time on a couple of different occasions.

00:44:24.000 I'll give you the gist of it without telling you necessarily specifics, because I'll respect his privacy in that regard, but it's simple.

00:44:29.000 The sentiment was this.

00:44:31.000 When one of our partners comes to us and says, we're gonna shut down your entire website unless you get rid of one person, I have a choice to make.

00:44:38.000 Yeah.

00:44:40.000 10,000 people's careers and their livelihoods, or one?

00:44:43.000 Well, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

00:44:45.000 My response was...

00:44:46.000 Tell them to shove off.

00:44:47.000 And then when those 10,000 people and all their 10,000 followers or one million followers each are wondering what happened, I'll point them in your direction.

00:44:55.000 Instead, they just give up.

00:44:57.000 So I'll tell you this.

00:44:58.000 Much as I respect Dave Rubin, what do you think would happen if MasterCard called him up like they did to Patreon, and they say, if you don't get rid of Malice, we shut your company down overnight?

00:45:09.000 Well, let's just pretend he's saying Bridget Phetasy, because she's much more expendable than me. 0.85

00:45:12.000 Love you.

00:45:13.000 Love you, too.

00:45:14.000 We don't have to argue about this because this actually happened.

00:45:17.000 Cody Wilson, who is awesome, who's the guy behind Ghost Guns, Defense Distributed, wearing the shirt right now, he had something called Patreon and he was trying to make a Patreon alternative where people who are banned from Patreon can go there, people who are heretics.

00:45:33.000 Yeah.

00:45:34.000 And his issue, why he had to shut it down, is because, precisely like you said, Visa or Stripe, one of the payment processes says, no, we're not doing business with you.

00:45:41.000 If you can't get money from person A to person B, it's really not over the internet.

00:45:45.000 There's not a mechanism of exchange.

00:45:46.000 Everyone's flipping out, like malice, you're ignoring this.

00:45:49.000 How's the market going to solve this?

00:45:50.000 I'm telling people right now, whether it's through crypto or some other mechanism, there are a lot of smart people.

00:45:57.000 Who see this for the problem that it is and are taking steps to work around this.

00:46:02.000 And this is something that absolutely has to happen.

00:46:04.000 But I'm sure you know even better than I do people who are doing this and trying to work around so that Visa doesn't have that kind of you by the throat.

00:46:11.000 And the big problem, it's very simple.

00:46:13.000 Every single person that I talk to about this, not every single person, There's a few, you know, we have PocketNet, they sponsor us, they want to go full decentralized blockchain, so we're glad to have them sponsor the show when we do their shoutouts periodically.

00:46:27.000 And it seems like they're truly decentralized, like, it's all on you, you're the node operator, it's yours, and that sounds like a good place to start.

00:46:35.000 But a lot of these companies need to make money.

00:46:38.000 Yeah.

00:46:38.000 How do they fund the development?

00:46:40.000 And so I have people saying to me, like, you know, when I was pitching this idea of creating an open source decentralized plug-in that other, you run it yourself.

00:46:46.000 Don't look at me.

00:46:47.000 I got nothing to do with it.

00:46:47.000 I can't ban you.

00:46:48.000 It's not my website.

00:46:49.000 And they're like, yeah, well, how do you fund that?

00:46:51.000 Like, are you going to charge them a percentage fee?

00:46:53.000 I was like, no, we give it away for free.

00:46:56.000 Because we're socialists here at TimCast IRL, to a certain degree.

00:47:00.000 Yes, I absolutely am going to take the money that, you know, some of the excess money we get, and create a system that will protect free speech and subscription services for many other people.

00:47:11.000 Now, it may be that, you know, Ian downloads this package, and he creates his own website, and then his payment processor bans him.

00:47:18.000 But that won't affect anybody else, and there's nothing we can do about it.

00:47:20.000 That's between him and his business.

00:47:22.000 We don't need that centralized node, individual who has that power.

00:47:26.000 We take that power away.

00:47:27.000 I think the ultimate value here for my company and everyone else's is it protects us in the long run if everyone is on a decentralized system.

00:47:35.000 Now, here's the best part.

00:47:35.000 Wait, just one more thing.

00:47:36.000 It's also good for your company because good karma gives you dividends.

00:47:40.000 I'm a firm believer if you help people and empower them, it comes back to you in the future.

00:47:45.000 But here's the other way it's going to really help us.

00:47:47.000 I guess you don't care.

00:47:48.000 I do!

00:47:49.000 I want to make a program that lets people spin up their own crypto.

00:47:52.000 Check it out.

00:47:53.000 With this plugin, it will create a network between everyone who uses it.

00:47:57.000 So we're very preliminary.

00:47:59.000 Ian so far mentioned a few devs.

00:48:01.000 RSS3.

00:48:01.000 We basically want to evolve RSS so you can... Now, have you ever used Gab's Dissenter browser?

00:48:05.000 I have not.

00:48:06.000 It's like a browser you download like Chrome or whatever, but you go to a website and then you can comment on the website on the browser.

00:48:12.000 So something like that, with like a Matrix login passport where you have your name and all your data, like who you're subscribed to, you can put your payments through that.

00:48:21.000 And you can use RSS2.

00:48:22.000 I'm just very excited to be here learning about how Skynet was built.

00:48:26.000 Yes!

00:48:27.000 And if we free the software code, we'll be able to watch the AI go haywire and see why it did it.

00:48:31.000 In real time!

00:48:32.000 I'll tell you my vision would be, if I upload this package to my server and press install or whatever, and you get this template, It's gonna have, you know, videos, blogs, log in, you log in, then like I on the backend have to put in my bank and all this stuff and set that up.

00:48:47.000 But there will also be a networking link that when you go to it, it shows you trending websites.

00:48:53.000 So if Ian has iancrossland.net running the same thing and he got a million views this week, In that networking, it's gonna be like, here's one of the biggest shows, and we can't control that.

00:49:02.000 It's just an open source network protocol that tracks big channels.

00:49:06.000 It could eventually create a more power you have, the more power you gain kind of thing, but ultimately, no one will be in charge.

00:49:11.000 Wait, who has iancrossland.com?

00:49:13.000 This guy, Ian Crossland.

00:49:14.000 He's like a boy scout or something.

00:49:16.000 Is that right?

00:49:16.000 Like, literally a kid?

00:49:17.000 Well, he's a guy, an older man.

00:49:20.000 Cool dude, I think.

00:49:20.000 I've only seen him from a distance.

00:49:21.000 You know the head of the CIA, former head of the CIA, John O'Brennan?

00:49:25.000 Yeah.

00:49:25.000 Someone should look at johnobrennan.com.

00:49:28.000 That website is going down right now.

00:49:30.000 No, no, I think 10,000 people hit that website.

00:49:33.000 Yeah.

00:49:34.000 Is it good?

00:49:34.000 Yeah, it's good.

00:49:35.000 Also, CadburyCreamEggs.com.

00:49:37.000 Oh gosh.

00:49:37.000 What?

00:49:37.000 I own it.

00:49:38.000 Oh, you do?

00:49:39.000 Yeah.

00:49:39.000 I love them.

00:49:40.000 Easter on Sunday.

00:49:41.000 It's Easter every day in my stuff.

00:49:43.000 That's right.

00:49:43.000 I love it.

00:49:44.000 I was gonna say about...

00:49:45.000 All right.

00:49:45.000 That's because I keep rising from the grave.

00:49:47.000 Well, let's get very serious with the censorship stuff and why I think it's so important.

00:49:52.000 So look, I'm talking a lot.

00:49:54.000 I don't like talking a lot when it comes to projects we have not done.

00:49:56.000 Okay?

00:49:57.000 Right.

00:49:57.000 Sure.

00:49:57.000 So I'll tell you that as far as we've come with this is we've speculated on some ideas,

00:50:03.000 and Ian's been like, I've got a handful of developers who could maybe get started on the project.

00:50:06.000 People keep messaging me too and continue to do that please.

00:50:09.000 Twitter's a good place.

00:50:09.000 I'm thinking maybe we need to start a 501c3.

00:50:12.000 I think it's about time in Delaware.

00:50:14.000 And that's, I don't know where, but so 501c3 whose mission is to create this open source subscription networking service so that people control their own Patreon.

00:50:23.000 I'll tell you why.

00:50:24.000 Right now as we are seeing YouTube ban Donald Trump's voice Yeah.

00:50:30.000 The result of this is unprecedented.

00:50:32.000 Wait, is it YouTube also or just Instagram and Facebook?

00:50:34.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:50:35.000 I really want to make sure we get that right.

00:50:37.000 As we are seeing Facebook and Instagram ban the voice of the president, but YouTube did take down right-side broadcasting networks video of Trump giving his speech.

00:50:46.000 All of these moves in big tech censorship is leading to a... It's building up power for the establishment.

00:50:53.000 They're trying to regain control.

00:50:54.000 You know, earlier, of course, you mentioned it used to be three networks.

00:50:57.000 It was really easy for them to control everything.

00:50:58.000 Now it's harder.

00:50:59.000 What ends up happening is... I think it's impossible, but go ahead.

00:51:02.000 Right.

00:51:03.000 What ends up happening is once they start centralizing control by having their allies in tech ban people, Well, they win elections.

00:51:10.000 Donald Trump loses.

00:51:12.000 And then the result of this is terrifying.

00:51:15.000 The New York Post reports, U.S.

00:51:17.000 expresses unwavering support for Ukraine amid Russian military movements.

00:51:22.000 The New York Times reports, fighting escalates in eastern Ukraine, signaling the end to another ceasefire.

00:51:28.000 Ukraine and Russia issued statements Tuesday, noting the worsening of a conflict that has been on a low simmer for years with countless ceasefires.

00:51:35.000 It's picking up.

00:51:36.000 And what's fascinating about this is that before Donald Trump, this was a major move by the existing U.S.

00:51:42.000 establishment, intelligence agencies, the military-industrial complex, gaining control, getting Western influence into Ukraine, and then creating this major conflict.

00:51:51.000 Don't get me wrong, Putin has a lot to account for in terms of his responsibility here, the seizing of Crimea, and the assistance he's providing to the separatists in the East.

00:52:00.000 But this is the big war.

00:52:01.000 This is, or I should say, this is one of the big conflicts having a lot to do with the Gazprom natural gas monopoly.

00:52:08.000 Europe is faced with very high energy prices.

00:52:09.000 They wanted to get a pipeline from, it's called the Qatar-Turkey pipeline.

00:52:13.000 Long story short, all of these pieces come together in really interesting ways.

00:52:17.000 In 2009, this is reported by The Guardian, the U.S.

00:52:19.000 wanted to destabilize Syria because Syria was refusing U.S.

00:52:23.000 interests, refusing to allow them to build a pipeline that would bring natural gas into Europe.

00:52:29.000 Well, Syria said, outright, Russia is our ally, and we will not harm their business interests with their gas monopoly.

00:52:36.000 Convenient for us, there was a civil war, a revolution, and conflict and attempts to destabilize Syria occurred, and U.S.

00:52:41.000 interests are there even right now.

00:52:43.000 Reports that the U.S.

00:52:44.000 is moving more in.

00:52:45.000 So, it's unsurprising to me that we're a couple months out of Joe Biden becoming president, and all of a sudden, Ukraine lights back up.

00:52:51.000 Of course it's not.

00:52:52.000 I mean, of course it's not surprising.

00:52:54.000 I mean, I think anyone who's even remotely red-pilled understands perfectly well there's these international networks where they work together, and Joe Biden was their guy.

00:53:03.000 And here's what really bothers me about Joe Biden.

00:53:06.000 This is, I think, the worst thing you can say about him, and it's something that's not even really particularly controversial.

00:53:11.000 If you, in my opinion correctly, regarded the Iraq War as a mistake, right? 0.95

00:53:15.000 Let's suppose I was a chef.

00:53:16.000 I've used this metaphor before.

00:53:18.000 And I accidentally undercook some chicken and someone dies, right?

00:53:21.000 Like, God forbid.

00:53:23.000 Not only would I feel enormous guilt, I'm like, okay.

00:53:26.000 I need to take mechanisms, if I'm going to still remain a chef, which I know that I would do because I killed someone, God forbid, I'm going to take steps to make sure this kind of thing never happens again because this is so beyond the pale and inappropriate.

00:53:37.000 I don't know how many people died in the Iraq war, Iraqis and Americans alike.

00:53:41.000 If Joe Biden says this was a mistake and you feel guilt over it, tens of thousands, about hundreds of thousands of innocent lives being, hundreds of thousands of lives, maybe not even innocent lives, but I don't think people, everyone should be killed.

00:53:54.000 I would be like, all right, I'm going to make sure this doesn't happen again.

00:53:57.000 I'm going to staff my White House with people who don't think this way.

00:54:01.000 I'm going to make steps to kind of put fail-safes in place.

00:54:06.000 I mean, the urine in his Depends wasn't dry.

00:54:11.000 before he was sending arms to Syria.

00:54:14.000 This is very disturbing, and I gotta tell you, you see these photos of these hippies in the 60s with the soldiers, and this girl hippie puts the daisy in the barrel.

00:54:25.000 Girl hippie?

00:54:26.000 Well, it's a very famous photo. 1.00

00:54:28.000 And as a kid, I thought, what an idiot. 1.00

00:54:29.000 And now I think, you know what? 1.00

00:54:30.000 She's not the idiot. 0.99

00:54:32.000 Because she's really, even though she's maybe naive and not particularly, whatever, sophisticated in her thoughts, she's like, you know what? 0.99

00:54:38.000 This is wrong.

00:54:40.000 And we are all raised to think that war is a last resort, but it's treated as a first priority by the state.

00:54:47.000 And this is one of the biggest reasons I'm an anarchist.

00:54:50.000 War is so glorified. 1.00

00:54:52.000 And even when it happens, everyone's just like, eh.

00:54:55.000 And I'm like, do you understand what this means?

00:54:57.000 Bombs from the sky and children and innocent kids?

00:54:59.000 The truth is they don't understand because they haven't experienced it.

00:55:02.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:55:03.000 I don't even understand it.

00:55:05.000 You know what it is to me?

00:55:07.000 The United States is the capital city in the Hunger Games.

00:55:09.000 Yeah.

00:55:09.000 they're all totally oblivious to the suffering of the outside districts who are being beaten and

00:55:14.000 forced to fight to the death. And they're like, so what?

00:55:16.000 And they're drinking Ipecac to vomit and keep eating until the war comes to them. You see, I believe

00:55:22.000 it was the CIA that referred to, I'll keep the language light, okay? The CIA said actions in

00:55:28.000 the Middle East resulted in blowback.

00:55:30.000 Yeah.

00:55:31.000 That when we were going over there meddling in governments, arming rebel groups,

00:55:36.000 people got mad at us over there and they brought it back over here.

00:55:39.000 And all of a sudden the people in the Capitol are shocked.

00:55:41.000 What's happening?

00:55:42.000 Why is it happening?

00:55:42.000 Don't worry!

00:55:43.000 They just hit you for your freedoms.

00:55:45.000 Some simple answer.

00:55:47.000 So you get these people blindly and ignorantly just cheering and dancing for the war machine.

00:55:52.000 And then when it comes back to them, they pat you on the head and say, oh, it's because of your freedoms.

00:55:56.000 Don't worry.

00:55:56.000 Not realizing that, dude, maybe if we just minded our own business a little bit and worked on ourselves, people wouldn't be doing these things.

00:56:03.000 Now, there are some serious challenges, though.

00:56:06.000 China's expansion into many of these areas, their authoritarianism, they're trying to take over, and it seems like they're doing a heck of a good job of it, which is scary to me. 0.98

00:56:12.000 Because if they end up as the global power, I don't like the idea of them gaining influence over us, but it seems like it's happening either way.

00:56:19.000 But the thing is, they're not gaining influence over us through militarily.

00:56:23.000 They're gaining influence the same way the Soviet Union did, through surreptitious means, through intelligence, and through journalism, and getting the right people who are fans of theirs to some extent, or at least neutral, in the right positions of power. 0.53

00:56:37.000 That's the insidious part.

00:56:39.000 China is not going to fight the U.S., maybe through a proxy war like the Korean War, but it's not going to be like a World War III, God forbid.

00:56:45.000 But they are going to do mechanisms to make sure that their opinions are presented as unarguable with in the States.

00:56:52.000 Shout out to The Fourth Turning, which you're familiar with, I believe, yes?

00:56:55.000 I'm not.

00:56:56.000 Strauss-Howe Generational Theory?

00:56:57.000 No.

00:56:58.000 So this is a book about 25 years ago, they said.

00:57:01.000 I'm shook!

00:57:03.000 I'm really surprised that Michael hadn't heard of that.

00:57:05.000 Fascinating.

00:57:06.000 Every 20 years is a new season, and every 80 years we go through a major upheaval.

00:57:10.000 Oh God, I hate stuff like this.

00:57:11.000 Oh my God.

00:57:13.000 You don't like it, huh?

00:57:13.000 This is like astrology.

00:57:16.000 Sure.

00:57:16.000 Interesting.

00:57:17.000 80 years ago, we had World War II.

00:57:19.000 Eight years before that we had a Civil War.

00:57:21.000 Eight years before that, we had a revolutionary war.

00:57:22.000 Okay. And look, every president who was inaugurated, it was 1789, 1865, 1933,

00:57:30.000 and would have been 2005, or is that 72 years in between?

00:57:32.000 It was Washington, Lincoln, FDR, so it would have been George Bush's second term. So yeah,

00:57:37.000 sometimes these patterns appear, but to claim that they're kind of inevitable, I really

00:57:42.000 reject that.

00:57:43.000 I'm not saying they're inevitable.

00:57:43.000 No, but if the implication is that these cycles tend to repeat,

00:57:46.000 I think this is the kind of thing where you get the conclusion and you force the data to fit it.

00:57:49.000 Well, perhaps.

00:57:51.000 They wrote this book 20 years ago, and they did predict a certain amount of things, and a certain amount of things they got wrong, because that's typically the case when someone's speculating.

00:57:58.000 But the general idea is, it's actually really simple to explain.

00:58:02.000 Strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times, hard times make strong men.

00:58:10.000 Have you heard that before?

00:58:11.000 I have.

00:58:12.000 The general idea is that we've seen it with generational wealth.

00:58:15.000 It typically lasts three generations.

00:58:17.000 The individual who came from nothing and worked really hard and understood what gumption was starts a business, makes a lot of money.

00:58:22.000 Sure.

00:58:23.000 Then they have a kid.

00:58:23.000 The kid grows up.

00:58:24.000 Yeah, shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in three generations.

00:58:26.000 Right.

00:58:27.000 And so that's kind of the general idea, that we're now entering this period where you have a bunch of very entitled people who simultaneously complain about the police but then demand that the state be given more power over many other aspects of their lives.

00:58:38.000 There's a lack of logic in a lot of what their decision-making is.

00:58:42.000 I digress.

00:58:43.000 The point is, according to this book, we are entering the winter period which should end with some kind of calamity.

00:58:49.000 But here's the issue.

00:58:51.000 The problem is that people tend to, and it's not always incorrect, they base the future off of the past.

00:58:57.000 We should look to the past to try and understand what will happen in the future, but there's many things you can't predict because of a change in methodology and technologies.

00:59:04.000 Yes.

00:59:04.000 To clarify, as many people think Strauss' Howe Generational Theory is predicting a massive world war with China, Strauss' Howe Generational Theory says that each war is fought with the most powerful weapons of the time.

00:59:15.000 The question we rose on the show is, and that might be social media.

00:59:18.000 No, it's love.

00:59:20.000 I think it's lasers.

00:59:21.000 Yes.

00:59:22.000 Care Bear Stare is the most powerful weapon.

00:59:25.000 No, what I mean is a lot of people assume it's nuclear weapons because World War II.

00:59:29.000 Sure.

00:59:30.000 It's been 80 years.

00:59:31.000 The mind control, social media manipulation and propaganda is infinitely more powerful right now.

00:59:36.000 You can take over a country without firing a single bullet.

00:59:39.000 You can convince the people to cheer for you as you storm their beaches.

00:59:43.000 I disagree because when, what's his name?

00:59:48.000 He wrote the book Propaganda.

00:59:50.000 Bernays?

00:59:53.000 There's Bernays' book and then there's Walter Lippmann's book, Public Opinion.

00:59:56.000 Those are the two.

00:59:57.000 Those are written in the 20s and 30s.

00:59:59.000 It's a lot easier to propagandize.

01:00:01.000 Look at Hitler. 0.86

01:00:02.000 Look at Stalin.

01:00:03.000 It is a lot easier to propagandize a population without access to independent media.

01:00:08.000 Look at FDR.

01:00:12.000 Look at Lincoln.

01:00:13.000 Look at the Confederacy.

01:00:14.000 It's a lot easier to have control of that population then than it is now, as counterintuitive as it sounds.

01:00:20.000 It's a lot easier to disrupt a nation's power centers with independent media than it is.

01:00:25.000 Yes, correct.

01:00:25.000 So what the most powerful weapon is of today is not firing a nuke.

01:00:29.000 It's China getting a bunch of sock puppets and bots across social media to undermine cohesion in the United States. 0.88

01:00:35.000 I'm all for undermining cohesion in the United States, as you know.

01:00:38.000 I'm for breaking this country up, so that sounds like a good thing to me.

01:00:41.000 I'm just going to take a step back about this book.

01:00:43.000 There's a book I recommend everyone read by Arthur Herman, who's an amazing historian.

01:00:48.000 His first book was called The Idea of Decline in Western History.

01:00:51.000 And what he goes through is every 20 years, there's a new sect that says, we're at the end of history.

01:00:58.000 It's very millenarianism in the Christian sense, like it's all going to come down, get your bootstraps ready, and whether it's the Hitler version or whether it's the Greta Thunberg version, it's always right now it's the end times and somehow it never is the Armageddon. 0.74

01:01:12.000 So I'm very skeptical of these books where the conclusion always is now is when things are going to hit the fan.

01:01:18.000 It's always now when things are about to hit the fan.

01:01:21.000 Yeah, I fell for that in 2006.

01:01:22.000 Mr. Malice, did you see what Marjorie Taylor Greene recently said about vaccine passports?

01:01:29.000 The Mark of the Beast!

01:01:30.000 I predicted that.

01:01:31.000 You predicted what?

01:01:32.000 That Christian fundamentalists are going to start invoking the Mark of the Beast, not incorrectly, about these vaccine passports. 0.99

01:01:38.000 Not incorrectly.

01:01:39.000 Yes.

01:01:39.000 This is the craziest thing, because I didn't know this until someone superchatted us that the Mark of the Beast was literally saying you couldn't buy or sell without it.

01:01:46.000 Yeah.

01:01:47.000 I didn't know that.

01:01:48.000 When I grew up— You didn't read Revelation?

01:01:49.000 No, no, no, no.

01:01:50.000 And I went to Catholic school.

01:01:52.000 Yeah.

01:01:52.000 Yes.

01:01:53.000 Yeah.

01:01:53.000 Kindergarten until end of fifth grade.

01:01:54.000 I was in Catholic school.

01:01:55.000 Seven heads and 10 horns.

01:01:56.000 Yeah.

01:01:57.000 And it rose from the lake or whatever or something.

01:01:58.000 I read it recently.

01:02:00.000 And, uh, I think it was several months ago, someone mentioned on the show that the prophecies are starting to come true.

01:02:04.000 They're always starting to come true.

01:02:05.000 I know.

01:02:06.000 I know.

01:02:06.000 And so I actually did it.

01:02:07.000 I did a segment on it for my main channel.

01:02:09.000 People have been more, are more moral now than they've ever been.

01:02:12.000 Yeah.

01:02:13.000 People are saying that, like, the prophecy of the lady with this star... Before Babylon, yeah.

01:02:17.000 Yeah, they're like, it's Venus and the moon and whatever, and it's like, you're looking for patterns, like you were just saying a moment ago.

01:02:21.000 You look for patterns.

01:02:22.000 Humans are really good at this.

01:02:23.000 What's that thing that's called where you, like, look at it, you can see faces?

01:02:26.000 Yeah, I forgot what it's called.

01:02:27.000 Yeah, pareidolia or something like that.

01:02:29.000 You can see a face in everything, and so people post these photos on the internet.

01:02:32.000 So I do think it's really interesting, though, that the vaccine passport, you'll need it to buy and trade.

01:02:40.000 And now you've got, obviously, certain individuals saying, could this be the mark of the beast?

01:02:45.000 Could it be?

01:02:46.000 No, no, it's not.

01:02:49.000 It's a bad idea regardless of the mark of the beast.

01:02:51.000 And the problem is I'm a fan of hers because I like anyone who's a loon, who says things that are just... It's much more effective to get your position across in politics if you come across as unreasonable than if you're trying to sit down and have a discussion.

01:03:10.000 Really?

01:03:10.000 Why do you say that?

01:03:11.000 Because there's no talking to her.

01:03:12.000 Right.

01:03:12.000 So she's not going to sit down with AOC and they're not going to co-sponsor legislation, right?

01:03:17.000 That's never going to happen.

01:03:18.000 That's never going to happen.

01:03:19.000 But AOC wouldn't do it either.

01:03:20.000 But that's of use to the Republican Party when they're coming off as intransigent, because then the Democrats—this happened twice.

01:03:27.000 It happened during the Gingrich Congress.

01:03:28.000 in 94, 95. This happened during the debt ceiling crisis under Obama when the Republicans were like,

01:03:33.000 we're not raising the debt crisis and we might have to default. Those are the only two times

01:03:37.000 they got budgetary concessions from the Democrats. So it's a very useful thing to come off as or

01:03:43.000 actually be alone. That's what a lot of people are saying about Donald Trump.

01:03:48.000 Right.

01:03:48.000 When it came to foreign policy, people were like, you can't negotiate with this guy because, you know, he's out of it.

01:03:54.000 And so that put pressure on these other world leaders where it's like, what do you do when you have to negotiate for the best of your country and you're with Donald Trump who's gonna go, excuse me, no, no, I don't know what that is, we're not, no, no, no.

01:04:06.000 And you're like, what do I say?

01:04:08.000 He just takes.

01:04:09.000 It's one of the reasons people really like the guy.

01:04:11.000 But I suppose it's a good point.

01:04:13.000 Now, to be fair, I think AOC isn't going to be, you know, coming to the table for the Democrats either.

01:04:19.000 So Marjorie Taylor Greene, like I said, comes off like a loon. 1.00

01:04:22.000 AOC is effectively doing the same thing for Democrats.

01:04:25.000 She's not.

01:04:27.000 You don't think so?

01:04:27.000 I don't think it's the same thing.

01:04:29.000 I don't think AOC is saying, well, no, you're right.

01:04:32.000 You know what?

01:04:32.000 Because she is saying the Republicans are changing the weather.

01:04:36.000 Climate change.

01:04:37.000 So I just take it back.

01:04:38.000 Yeah.

01:04:39.000 Okay.

01:04:39.000 All right.

01:04:39.000 I was wrong.

01:04:40.000 Look, she said under Donald Trump, these are concentration camps.

01:04:43.000 Yeah.

01:04:44.000 So we, we now, we can see, it's funny how they demonize Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:04:47.000 And I'm like, yo, you guys hit AOC first.

01:04:50.000 So you don't get to come out and complain about Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:04:52.000 Now I can, I can certainly point out Marjorie Taylor Greene's posts on Facebook and she apologized for these things.

01:04:58.000 She did.

01:04:58.000 She walked it all back.

01:04:59.000 I don't, okay.

01:05:00.000 I don't, let's talk about that.

01:05:01.000 Okay.

01:05:01.000 If you say that the Rothschilds are building lasers to change the weather, I get how you're sorry you said it, but what I don't get is, walk me through how you got there and why you no longer are going there.

01:05:15.000 That's what I want to know.

01:05:16.000 I don't need the apology.

01:05:17.000 So are you saying that it's quite possible that she's just saying that and she really still believes in the space lasers changing the weather?

01:05:23.000 If you believe that space lasers changed the weather as is your prerogative, what changed your mind?

01:05:29.000 Al Roker?

01:05:30.000 No, hold on a second.

01:05:32.000 There was several studies done where they used infrared lasers for cloud seeding.

01:05:40.000 Okay.

01:05:40.000 That actually happened.

01:05:41.000 Sure.

01:05:41.000 I guess the issue is when you claim the Rothschilds were doing it, you know, instead of like, it was like a University of Berlin or something was like, hey, we just realized this thing happens when you point lasers at the sky.

01:05:50.000 Tinfoil pool.

01:05:51.000 No, no, I just think it's like, What you need to understand about the insidiousness of these conspiracy theories is how they come from a little seed of truth.

01:05:59.000 Oh, of course.

01:06:00.000 And then someone pours Gatorade on them because that's what plants crave.

01:06:04.000 And then they end up with some wacky idea.

01:06:07.000 They can't figure out why things aren't working properly.

01:06:09.000 And also in their defense, we've all played telephone, right?

01:06:12.000 So I can't tell you the number of times when someone reads an article and then they'll just repeat it and it's like, that's not what the article said at all.

01:06:20.000 I've had people accuse me, because I wrote a book called The New Right, of portraying myself as having invented it.

01:06:25.000 I'm like, what are you perceiving, me having said that, that you're getting to this conclusion?

01:06:31.000 Other than the Rothschilds put lasers in your brain.

01:06:33.000 But look, look.

01:06:34.000 I think AOC holds... I think it's fair to point out, thinking about space lasers from the Rothschilds for weather control is like very much out there for sure. 0.94

01:06:43.000 It's out in space.

01:06:44.000 Here's the problem.

01:06:44.000 The Democrats believe often many equally insane things.

01:06:49.000 Sure.

01:06:49.000 Chris Hayes has a guy on his show on MSNBC.

01:06:52.000 Is it possible that Donald Trump has been a Russian asset since the late 80s?

01:06:57.000 And they don't even stop to think that would imply that Trump was still working for the Soviet Union, which doesn't exist.

01:07:02.000 So who is he an asset for?

01:07:04.000 You know about that, right?

01:07:04.000 Yeah, but I don't think that's as crazy as space lasers, to be honest.

01:07:06.000 It's not.

01:07:07.000 What I'm saying is, well, I mean, that's fairly crazy.

01:07:11.000 We'll have a crazy off and calculate, quantify.

01:07:14.000 No, come on. 0.85

01:07:15.000 Wait, what's more crazy?

01:07:16.000 That one person has been corrupted or that they're changing the weather for secret purposes?

01:07:21.000 I don't think those are comparable in terms of lunacy.

01:07:24.000 And also, Putin was a KGB agent, so there was a lot of continuity between the Soviet Union and now.

01:07:29.000 Absolutely.

01:07:30.000 No one's denying that.

01:07:30.000 We have satellites.

01:07:32.000 We have satellites with lasers.

01:07:33.000 We can use infrared lasers for cloud seeding.

01:07:35.000 We use silver, was it silver iodide, for cloud seeding?

01:07:36.000 Oh, maybe, yeah.

01:07:37.000 I thought it was silver nitrate.

01:07:38.000 It might be iodide.

01:07:38.000 Silver nitrate.

01:07:39.000 I could be wrong.

01:07:39.000 Silver nitrate.

01:07:40.000 There's a silver they use.

01:07:41.000 The point is, I'm saying if you had to play roulette and the choices are Donald Trump has been a Russian agent and the Rothschilds are firing lasers to change the climate, you're saying it's a coin toss? 0.76

01:07:52.000 No. 0.98

01:07:52.000 I'm saying that they're both really crazy, and I understand why you think one is crazier than the other, because it certainly is. 0.98

01:07:58.000 But I'm also pointing out, what they do is they take morsels of truth to create this, like, amalgam. 0.73

01:08:03.000 It's a lot easier to manipulate with some basis in truth than something pure fabrication. 0.87

01:08:07.000 1619 Project is fabricated garbage, and the left believes this. 0.50

01:08:11.000 AOC believes this stuff. 0.99

01:08:12.000 It's a creation myth.

01:08:13.000 Right, right, right.

01:08:14.000 She puts this stuff in policy.

01:08:16.000 So again, I get it.

01:08:17.000 I'm sorry to interrupt you because I'm going to be pedantic.

01:08:21.000 We don't know that she believes it.

01:08:22.000 It could just certainly be of use to her.

01:08:24.000 I agree.

01:08:24.000 No, I think you're right.

01:08:25.000 That's insidious.

01:08:26.000 I just mean that she uses it.

01:08:27.000 Yeah.

01:08:28.000 So this is the point I was going to bring up before.

01:08:30.000 Under Trump, she's like, these are concentration camps.

01:08:32.000 Under Biden, she literally said, there's no border crisis.

01:08:36.000 And it's different now because Biden is trying to solve the problem.

01:08:39.000 It's worse than it was under Trump.

01:08:41.000 It's not the most amount of migrants, but Reuters even said we are looking at a 20-year spike in these unaccompanied minors and illegal immigrants.

01:08:51.000 We got new video from Project Veritas.

01:08:53.000 Children in the dirt under a bridge near McAllen.

01:08:57.000 It is bad.

01:08:58.000 What they don't want to talk about, because no one knows how to wrap their heads around this.

01:09:01.000 There's some articles that mention this, but it's not being made into a bigger deal than I think it really should be.

01:09:07.000 People talk about rape culture.

01:09:08.000 There is a lot of sexual assaults in these.

01:09:11.000 When you have lots of people who have not citizens, who have no access to the legal system, you don't know who the heck they are, they're locked in close confinement with other people, like in a prison, you're going to have large numbers of assaults.

01:09:24.000 And that, to me, is what I find extremely disturbing.

01:09:28.000 And if you actually were concerned about these people who are being held in these locations, that should be your priority number one.

01:09:33.000 And it's not.

01:09:34.000 And that, to me, is very, very sick.

01:09:36.000 Let me ask you something.

01:09:38.000 Do you believe Marjorie Taylor Greene genuinely believed those things she was saying?

01:09:41.000 Yes.

01:09:41.000 Do you think AOC genuinely believes the things she's saying?

01:09:44.000 No.

01:09:44.000 Which would you prefer in government?

01:09:46.000 I would prefer... I can't say what I prefer regarding government because we get banned.

01:09:53.000 All right, just like, we won't go to the moon with it, but if you're like looking at two people and you're like, you can have the person who's lying or the person who's crazy, what do you do?

01:10:03.000 I would rather have the person who's lying because the person who's lying is still aware of reality and acting in accordance with it.

01:10:10.000 Whereas the person who's crazy, it is a bell curve.

01:10:13.000 And if you go for standard deviations, you might have things like nuclear war or really the truth. 0.85

01:10:19.000 I agree because the point I wanted to get to is with a liar like AOC, if she was given 0.99

01:10:23.000 unlimited resources, she would implement some really wacky, crazy system where she tries 1.00

01:10:28.000 to pander to her base. 0.81

01:10:29.000 But at least it would be like healthcare that people just kind of are upset with.

01:10:33.000 Or generally bad things that still exist in reality.

01:10:36.000 If you took someone who was absolutely crazy, and I'm not trying to imply Marjorie Taylor Greene would do this, but if you had somebody who believed that there was, like, you know, Nazis on the far side of the moon, with unlimited resources, they would get us building rockets to the moon to go fight people who aren't there, and that would just... I might rather have rockets to the moon than, like, socialized healthcare, because less people are dying.

01:10:52.000 We'll see.

01:10:53.000 So now you made the argument for the other case.

01:10:55.000 Exactly.

01:10:56.000 The point I'm making is that you could have a crazy person just build crazy things, I don't know, maybe they nuked the moon.

01:11:03.000 AOC would just... Gotta nuke someone. 1.00

01:11:04.000 Yeah, I mean, what are you gonna do?

01:11:06.000 Sit around?

01:11:06.000 They're gonna expire at some point.

01:11:09.000 So maybe it's not so easy, because the liar is going to make a broken system, and they do.

01:11:14.000 The politicians are just like, how can we make everyone happy?

01:11:16.000 I don't know, give them universal health care that they gotta pay for, so they get the individual mandate.

01:11:20.000 Here's the easy one, that the Republicans are fiscal responsibility if they never vote for a smaller budget.

01:11:24.000 That's a very blatant, explicit line.

01:11:27.000 Right. 0.98

01:11:28.000 You get liars, you get crazy people, and sometimes you get both. 0.94

01:11:30.000 I think we have both. 0.86

01:11:33.000 I guess your solution is what, just like anarchy?

01:11:36.000 Yeah.

01:11:37.000 It's not empowering crazy people and liars, but the power of police.

01:11:41.000 I was thinking we could get rid of representatives and just use smart contracts that we vote for as a collective. 0.78

01:11:46.000 Why do we have to vote on anything?

01:11:49.000 So that we can agree without having to talk to each other?

01:11:51.000 Because sometimes rivers start on fire.

01:11:54.000 Sure, but rivers start on fire because the property right of that river isn't being protected.

01:11:59.000 The people own the river.

01:12:00.000 But that's not a thing.

01:12:02.000 That's the tragedy of the commons, is that when no one owns it, then no one feels responsibility for it, and then everyone just takes whatever resources they can, and then it becomes destroyed.

01:12:14.000 There's a logical hole here whenever I have these conversations with libertarians and objectivists about owning water.

01:12:20.000 So you're familiar with the Cuyahoga River?

01:12:22.000 You're owning water right there.

01:12:24.000 Right, I'm talking about a river.

01:12:25.000 Apparently the Cuyahoga River caught on fire again last year.

01:12:28.000 What?

01:12:28.000 Really?

01:12:28.000 Yeah, someone just told me about it in Cuyahoga Falls.

01:12:32.000 Let's talk about pollution because there's no system where this isn't a complicated issue.

01:12:37.000 So let's be reasonable here.

01:12:39.000 Let's compare China to the U.S.

01:12:41.000 The Chinese river dolphin, the goddess of the river, which has been a symbol of China for centuries, has now gone extinct.

01:12:47.000 Wow.

01:12:48.000 The Chinese paddlefish, which I think is the second or the largest freshwater fish, has now gone extinct.

01:12:54.000 The pollution, when you have a heavy centralized economy, which leads to poverty, means that government now is trying to pull resources from whatever it can, because otherwise the people are starving.

01:13:06.000 So when you have a bougie society, a whole food society, those are the ones who care and have the ability and wealth to preserve the environment, to preserve things like rivers.

01:13:18.000 But I agree with you.

01:13:20.000 No environmentalist or anyone on earth is going to have an easy solution when you're talking about water, which moves and, you know, upstream and weather and things like that.

01:13:30.000 Have you ever seen it?

01:13:31.000 Other than having a culture where this is revered and something that people care about.

01:13:36.000 So I'm very much in favor of environmental regulations.

01:13:40.000 I don't know if the solutions to the world are always going to be easy or as clear-cut, but have you ever seen this video?

01:13:45.000 I think it's a YouTube channel called GrayStillPlays, I think it's called, where it's a game, I think it's called City State.

01:13:51.000 And he decided to just make it pure anarchy.

01:13:55.000 And he thought it was going to be a bunch of wealthy oligarchs and a bunch of poor people and drugs and gangs.

01:14:00.000 And this video, he's a really funny YouTuber.

01:14:02.000 It's really, it's a really, really great video because he's shocked by what happens.

01:14:06.000 And so you watch him play the game and you watch the game played by other people and they're like, I think we need environmental regulations.

01:14:11.000 Okay, let's make sure we have housing for the poor. 1.00

01:14:13.000 And you get a mix of poverty and pollution and you're fighting to keep things going.

01:14:17.000 So he decides he's going to have no regulations, no taxes and let people do whatever you want.

01:14:21.000 And as the game progresses, there's no poverty anymore.

01:14:24.000 Everyone's living in luxury and he's going, what's happening?

01:14:27.000 It literally says like it's like capitalist oligarchy and there's no poor people.

01:14:32.000 Everyone's homes are being built at their ski resorts everywhere.

01:14:36.000 He's like, why are there so many ski resorts?

01:14:37.000 Yeah, but the poor people have been made into cold cuts. 0.87

01:14:40.000 Exactly.

01:14:41.000 No, no, just like- Now they have value.

01:14:43.000 The funny thing is, I guess the response you get from the left is that the game was clearly made by a capitalist.

01:14:47.000 But in this simulator- All games are made by capitalists.

01:14:50.000 It's a game, it's not a gulag.

01:14:52.000 Exactly.

01:14:52.000 I just think- Leisure is a function of capitalism.

01:14:55.000 Yeah?

01:14:57.000 Explain, explain, come on.

01:15:00.000 What do you need to explain?

01:15:01.000 Communists don't play baseball?

01:15:04.000 No!

01:15:04.000 First of all, baseball, no.

01:15:06.000 Baseball is a Western contrivance.

01:15:07.000 Contrivance?

01:15:09.000 It is!

01:15:10.000 They think it's a waste of time because it's not working for the culture.

01:15:13.000 I forget why they specifically hated baseball, maybe because it was too American. 1.00

01:15:17.000 But yeah, when you have these states where you're supposed to be working for your fellow man, any spare time, that means that's time you're taking away from poor people and hungry people.

01:15:24.000 You need to be working.

01:15:25.000 Yeah, they particularly attributed leisure to specialization, which came from capitalism.

01:15:28.000 You know that in North Korea, there are people whose job is to be a skateboarder.

01:15:32.000 I've never heard of North Korea.

01:15:34.000 Never heard of it.

01:15:35.000 So there's this place.

01:15:36.000 It's part of a peninsula.

01:15:38.000 You mean like an island?

01:15:39.000 A place?

01:15:40.000 It's not an island.

01:15:41.000 It's a peninsula.

01:15:42.000 And the northern part is, you know, basically it's communist.

01:15:45.000 But in this place, there are people who are told they have to skate every day by the government.

01:15:50.000 Are they competitors?

01:15:51.000 Competitive.

01:15:52.000 Yeah.

01:15:53.000 And so they compete.

01:15:54.000 I guess it's the idea.

01:15:55.000 I don't know that they have the ability or I'm not entirely sure.

01:15:58.000 I've just seen the photos and I've read it in skateboarding magazines about the communists

01:16:02.000 who are mandated to be skateboarders.

01:16:04.000 Let me break this down a little bit because as you guys know I wrote a book on North Korea,

01:16:07.000 Dear Reader.

01:16:08.000 So it's not – I mean this is something that's taken a little bit out of context.

01:16:13.000 Athletes in a country that's as poor as North Korea, as small as North Korea, is a great way to have reverence on the world stage because they're saying, look, we're tiny North Korea, we're the size of, well, they wouldn't use this example, the size of Pennsylvania, and we're taking on Russia. 0.72

01:16:26.000 We're taking on the United, you know, the wicked U.S. 0.95

01:16:29.000 imperialists and the JAP. 0.78

01:16:31.000 I can't even finish the sentence because it's a slur.

01:16:33.000 So this is a great, and also if you're coming from nothing, now it's your chance to be a hero of the entire nation.

01:16:40.000 So they are very, this is a big thing during the Olympics with the Cold War.

01:16:43.000 This is a very common mechanism for these states.

01:16:46.000 Cuba, I talked to people who know people in the UFC who think they engage in these kind of super soldier experiments on kids to make these athletes who are later growing up to be UFC fighters because this is their, and East German, The East German women's swim team were all on a certain type of steroid.

01:17:03.000 And they asked the coach, they go, why do they all have such deep voices?

01:17:07.000 And the coach said, they came here to swim, not to sing.

01:17:11.000 This was the quote.

01:17:12.000 So this is very common in these centralized countries where you are basically becoming a hero because it's not expensive to become a great skateboarder.

01:17:22.000 Well, don't you think that there's a... I'm surprised that skateboarding is a thing there, to be honest, because that's such a capitalist, bougie thing.

01:17:27.000 It's entering the Olympics.

01:17:29.000 I didn't realize skateboarding was an Olympic event.

01:17:31.000 Well, I think its first Olympic event is going to be coming up in China, I think.

01:17:35.000 And over the past decade, it's been a huge point of contention for skateboarders because I mean, skateboarders become, for a long time, very corporate, mainstream, cookie cutter.

01:17:45.000 And that's kind of a bummer.

01:17:46.000 Like, a lot of the best, for a while now, a lot of the best skateboarders kind of just like, where's the fun, where's the wild, where's the anarchy, where's the punk rock?

01:17:53.000 Sure.

01:17:54.000 It's still there, for sure.

01:17:55.000 Well, look at Green Day.

01:17:56.000 Same thing with punk rock itself.

01:17:57.000 It becomes Gap Punk.

01:17:58.000 Sorry, Billy Joe.

01:17:59.000 Yeah.

01:18:00.000 Yeah, but I mean, definitely.

01:18:01.000 Dookie was good.

01:18:03.000 You love Dookie, Ian.

01:18:06.000 I love what you said, Michael, about decentralized government.

01:18:11.000 Because the United States is kind of decentralized.

01:18:14.000 States rule.

01:18:15.000 The cops in a state can be like, get out of here to the feds if they come and try and bust up their state laws. 0.95

01:18:20.000 And that's very exciting to me.

01:18:23.000 I mean, you have, I think, Ohio basically said to the ATF, like, we're not going to enforce federal gun laws.

01:18:29.000 I think West Virginia just passed something similar, where they're all basically saying, even though the ATF says that they'll enforce these laws, you can't do anything about it.

01:18:37.000 I went to the ATF's website reading about bump stocks because of this new court ruling that said a bump stock is not a machine gun.

01:18:43.000 And they still say, no, you cannot have it.

01:18:45.000 So I do find it interesting when California was legalized medicinal marijuana, the DEA

01:18:51.000 still came in and raided these shops.

01:18:53.000 So it is interesting that you can be in your state and know that you're safe from your

01:18:56.000 state. Basically, the feds still come in.

01:18:58.000 Yeah, I was there for that in L.A.

01:19:00.000 And that was a big fear.

01:19:02.000 A lot of times that the feds would come and raid one of those shops.

01:19:04.000 And they did. I watch videos of it.

01:19:06.000 And there were times that the local cops would be like, get out of here.

01:19:09.000 But I mean, it was the Feds.

01:19:10.000 Yes.

01:19:11.000 It's a weird.

01:19:13.000 I mean, what a weird challenge.

01:19:14.000 What are your thoughts?

01:19:15.000 Because I mean, you're coming from a position of anarchy.

01:19:18.000 When you have a state say it's legal to do these things and the Feds say we're going to come in and bust them up anyway. 0.66

01:19:22.000 I think that's that's wonderful.

01:19:24.000 I mean, I think any time you have this kind of power versus power, it just shows you that law is a myth.

01:19:29.000 And all law means is what people don't appreciate is law only works if you have the will to enforce it.

01:19:36.000 So a lot of times things become legal not because some politicians went in and changed the law, but because there was no political will to enforce it.

01:19:43.000 Same thing with the lockdowns.

01:19:44.000 At a certain point, Cuomo said this, I got paid to read his book, and he says in the book repeatedly, He says, I knew unless I got compliance from the voluntary compliance from the vast majority of the population, there was no way I could put this in place.

01:20:00.000 So he's like, it was important for me to murder the elderly, but also to explain to the population. 0.97

01:20:06.000 why we're putting these things into place so that they would feel comfortable doing this.

01:20:11.000 So this is the big misconception is that versus 1984 versus Brave New World,

01:20:17.000 so much of authoritarianism is not a function of a gun to your head like they have in North Korea.

01:20:22.000 It's a function of the televangelists like John Oliver and Rachel Maddow on your TV every night.

01:20:29.000 Yeah, of course. 0.84

01:20:31.000 Telling you, this is good, people who don't do this are bad and evil or stupid, and good people behave in a certain way, and then you don't have to have the cost of enforcing compliance.

01:20:41.000 But then, don't you think at a certain point, you know, we're talking about leisure, you end up with too much ignorance, weakness, laziness, and people who just... Well, this is, I think, the strongest criticism of capitalism, and I've come up with it and I don't have a good answer. 0.93

01:20:56.000 We're, this comes from the paleo kind of diet and mindset.

01:21:01.000 If you get to a point where Maslow's hierarchy of needs has been taken care of, meaning you don't have to worry

01:21:07.000 about where the next meal is gonna come from.

01:21:09.000 You don't have to worry about the roof of your head.

01:21:11.000 You don't have to worry about your health really.

01:21:12.000 Your brain is still wired to think in terms of resource scarcity.

01:21:17.000 Our brains are still in terms of get more, get more, get more.

01:21:20.000 And if you don't actually have problems in an evolutionary sense where no predator is going to eat you, you have plenty of food, you have shelter, your brain is going, this is my hypothesis, is going to find problems to validate its emotion in the same way that depression, anxiety, people don't realize this, the emotion comes first, the depression, the anxiety, then your brain tells you, oh, you're depressed because you don't have a job.

01:21:42.000 There's plenty of people who don't have a job who aren't depressed.

01:21:44.000 It's just your mind tells you exactly what it needs to do to validate this emotion to perpetuate itself.

01:21:50.000 It's like in The Matrix, when Smith tells, I think he's talking to Morpheus, and he says, we gave you paradise and your brains rejected it.

01:21:56.000 Yes.

01:21:57.000 That's exactly it.

01:21:58.000 And I've talked about, I talked about this before, several years ago, I did a segment where I said our generation has lost purpose.

01:22:04.000 And one of the reasons, and it's why one of the reasons Jordan Peterson was such a threat to the left, Because you had these kind of two factions I saw that were large factions, not necessarily the parent factions, the woke left, the social justice warriors, et cetera, people without purpose.

01:22:19.000 They found their religion.

01:22:20.000 It was their fight that must be fought, and it gave them reason for being.

01:22:23.000 It also gave them status, because if I am a lowest status white person, this is the only metric I have by assuming dominance over somebody else.

01:22:31.000 I could be violently anti-racist and have something to hold over somebody else.

01:22:34.000 I can't compete with them on any other level.

01:22:36.000 Sure.

01:22:37.000 So you end up with also follower counts, where they can build followers.

01:22:40.000 On the other side, you had listless young men sitting in their basements playing video

01:22:44.000 games.

01:22:45.000 Well, this was good because it was the demon, it was the enemy, it was the villain for many

01:22:49.000 of these woke people to point at them and call them bigots.

01:22:53.000 Jordan Peterson came along and gave these people purpose, responsibility, and he told

01:22:56.000 them, find the heaviest thing you can carry and carry it.

01:22:58.000 Not that the guy's perfect, but a lot of people then started, you know, hearing this message of self-help.

01:23:03.000 And that kind of, it not only... And independence.

01:23:07.000 Absolutely.

01:23:07.000 Meaning it's coming from inside instead of the people around you, and that's dangerous, because they're the ones who are around you.

01:23:13.000 And they want to recruit from a pool of purposeless individuals.

01:23:16.000 Yes.

01:23:16.000 But if people found purpose from within, and they no longer found purpose from being accepted by a cult, well, then they created actual resistance.

01:23:24.000 So Jordan Peterson had to be villainized in every capacity.

01:23:26.000 It was incredible to watch his interviews with, I think, Kathy Newman, particularly, where she was, like, dumbfoundedly confused at what he was doing.

01:23:33.000 She just didn't understand.

01:23:34.000 Why are you giving them purpose?

01:23:36.000 So you're saying she's a Nazi?

01:23:37.000 So what I'm saying is... No, I wouldn't...

01:23:41.000 Look at this guy looking at me.

01:23:42.000 Well, I'm going to be on Jordan Peter's show on Monday, and it's going to be very exciting.

01:23:45.000 Oh, yeah.

01:23:45.000 Yes!

01:23:47.000 But her confusion was like... And I will be Kathy Newman-ing him.

01:23:51.000 I'm not kidding.

01:23:51.000 The fact that she was confused was really weird.

01:23:55.000 She wasn't confused, though.

01:23:56.000 She didn't get it.

01:23:57.000 She was perceiving things that made sense in her context.

01:24:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:01.000 She was translating, yeah.

01:24:02.000 She was thinking he's inarticulate.

01:24:04.000 Right.

01:24:04.000 Because he's awkwardly saying what she agrees with already.

01:24:07.000 She's incapable of perceiving other... The number of people who are incapable of the slightest bit of empathy is through the roof.

01:24:15.000 They are absolutely incapable of seeing other perspectives.

01:24:18.000 There are people who tell you with a straight face, why would you be interested in knowing what Osama bin Laden wanted?

01:24:23.000 And it's like, well, if you want to destroy an enemy, don't you at least want to know their motivation?

01:24:27.000 And that makes no sense to them.

01:24:28.000 They think, if you're reading what bin Laden wanted, therefore you agree with him.

01:24:31.000 And it's like, that's not even the implication at all.

01:24:33.000 Well, that's why they want to ban all these books.

01:24:34.000 Yes.

01:24:36.000 Look, this is one of the biggest challenges we face.

01:24:39.000 People who just... I wonder if we're seeing a separate... Midwits is maybe not the right word, but maybe the right word.

01:24:46.000 Right?

01:24:46.000 So people who are... What is it?

01:24:48.000 Slightly above average?

01:24:49.000 115 IQ.

01:24:50.000 Slightly above average.

01:24:50.000 But not smart enough?

01:24:52.000 Right.

01:24:53.000 We were talking about this... It's like a guy who's 5'11".

01:24:56.000 He's tall in that he's above average.

01:24:58.000 There's no circumstance where his height would be noticeable or of interest.

01:25:02.000 So if you're marginally intelligent, you might be the smartest person in the group, but no one will ever be impressed by your mind.

01:25:07.000 So, we were talking about this earlier, in the George Floyd case, there's a video where the cop is walking George Floyd out of, you know, he's walking him down the street where there's surveillance footage, and the cop says something like, you've got foam on your mouth, are you on something?

01:25:22.000 And Floyd says, no, nothing, man.

01:25:23.000 Then he's like, but why do you have foam on your mouth?

01:25:25.000 And Floyd says, I was hooping earlier.

01:25:28.000 Hoops, shooting hoops, it's a reference to basketball.

01:25:30.000 PBS reported this as, you know, he'd been playing basketball, maybe he got dehydrated, whatever that means.

01:25:35.000 Well, Jack Posobiec posted this, and as a joke, I pulled up the Urban Dictionary definition specifically highlighting hooping as a reference to smuggling narcotics up your, you know, your, well it's not, you know. 0.94

01:25:47.000 Your rear end. 0.98

01:25:48.000 Yeah! 0.99

01:25:48.000 In a baggie. 0.99

01:25:49.000 Up the behind.

01:25:49.000 Posterior.

01:25:50.000 And so, on the Urban Dictionary post, it says, get your hoop and mug, because whatever word you search for, they tell you to buy the merch for it.

01:25:58.000 So I made a joke in response to him, because I've been very silly on Twitter, saying, don't forget to buy your hoop and mug, and then I showed the Urban Dictionary thing. 0.98

01:26:05.000 And these leftists were like, Tim is so dumb. 0.98

01:26:08.000 He doesn't know that hooping means basketball. 0.99

01:26:10.000 And another person was like, for someone who claims to be from the city, it's shocking.

01:26:13.000 And I said, you guys are the kind of people that thought I was serious when I said, impeach the queen.

01:26:17.000 Yes.

01:26:17.000 When we have people like that, they're active in the conversation, but not smart enough to perceive their sarcasm or humor or maybe the nuance to the conversation.

01:26:28.000 And they vote on these ideas.

01:26:30.000 It's like, When you mentioned they didn't want to understand Osama Bin Laden, the similarity I see there is that their only thought is smash with club.

01:26:40.000 Like they see a bad guy and they go, hit with club, hit with club.

01:26:43.000 And so when someone makes a joke, they go, that's the same thing as the bad guy.

01:26:46.000 Hit with club, hit with club. 0.90

01:26:47.000 And you're like, there's a whole bunch of complex nuance and jokes and humor, and they lack the capability to understand and perceive this.

01:26:54.000 Isn't this a huge source of optimism?

01:26:57.000 No, but think, I'm not kidding. 1.00

01:26:58.000 All the dumb people. 1.00

01:26:59.000 Yeah, but think about it. 1.00

01:27:00.000 Who would you rather go against?

01:27:01.000 Skynet or a bunch of guys with clubs?

01:27:04.000 This is a no-brainer.

01:27:06.000 So, Tim, you've correctly identified it.

01:27:08.000 That's not a problem.

01:27:09.000 Although they're behind their keyboards, although they're on Twitter, they're not literally dressed like Fred Flintstone.

01:27:14.000 You're dealing with thousands, millions of people whose only mindset to an opponent is smash with clubs.

01:27:20.000 Clubs are such a bad weapon, they're not even in Clue.

01:27:25.000 This is why I'm so optimistic about the future, because you innocently just now correctly identified the nature of the enemy, and this isn't some great Terminator from the future, this is Fred Flintstone!

01:27:37.000 Yes, but there are people who are smart, who have realized without principle, they don't have any to begin with, they can weaponize the hive and use it as a weapon.

01:27:47.000 Correct.

01:27:47.000 They can weaponize it.

01:27:48.000 But humans run the country, and the world, and not bees.

01:27:51.000 So I agree with you, bees are dangerous, and bees can kill people, and they're not something to be taken lightly, even in terms of insects.

01:27:56.000 I'm not being facetious at all, but at a certain point, it's like, there's a ceiling.

01:28:01.000 There's only so much you could do with bees.

01:28:03.000 Yeah, you could have dogs that shoot bees out of their mouth, but other than that, it's... And you could also pacify the hive.

01:28:08.000 Yeah.

01:28:09.000 Perhaps you can be smart, you can throw a wrench in the spokes, you can figure things out.

01:28:12.000 Music, fun games, and things.

01:28:14.000 Or you could become the queen.

01:28:16.000 Maybe we all are.

01:28:17.000 But how do you become the queen of a hive of people who... Well, you're gonna need some blush. 1.00

01:28:21.000 Psychic power, baby.

01:28:21.000 Some eyeliner.

01:28:22.000 Meditation.

01:28:22.000 Take eyelashes.

01:28:23.000 The people who become the queen are the emotional manipulators.

01:28:26.000 They have no principles.

01:28:27.000 Well, at least they don't care.

01:28:28.000 You could have principles and be an emotional manipulator.

01:28:30.000 Yeah, you could.

01:28:30.000 It's called a wife.

01:28:31.000 I suppose, then, what you're saying is we, as smart individuals, should recognize that... I didn't say we were smart individuals.

01:28:37.000 Let's not put words in my mouth.

01:28:38.000 Okay.

01:28:38.000 So what you're saying is... Now you're Kathy Newman.

01:28:41.000 So what you're saying is... So what you're saying, Michael, is that you're a pigman. 0.99

01:28:44.000 So what you're saying is that you're a drone. 0.99

01:28:48.000 So what we should do then is live like lobsters. 0.97

01:28:50.000 Should we then speak honestly to those who we feel as perceptive and understanding, but then lie to the dumb masses to control them to gain power? 0.97

01:28:59.000 No. 0.81

01:28:59.000 I think we should be honest that we're going to try and manipulate them. 0.81

01:29:03.000 Okay, Michael, you answer this one.

01:29:04.000 Take it.

01:29:05.000 No, what Michael is saying is... No, Ian, I do want to hear your response.

01:29:09.000 Oh, I think we just honestly acknowledge that we are going to manipulate people with the psychic power and do it for righteousness and be honest about our own faults.

01:29:16.000 No, I would say, and Hotep Jesus has this quote which is not particularly unique to him, to realize you're behind enemy lines, study what the communists did back in the 20s and 30s, study what gay people had to do for decades, and figure out how to pass.

01:29:32.000 So when you're talking to someone who's... This sounds like the cop hit with club.

01:29:36.000 Once you've identified you're dealing with that kind of person, you talk to them in a certain way.

01:29:41.000 Once you're dealing with people who are slightly red-pilled, whether they're on the far left like Jimmy Dore or somewhere else, you know you can have a conversation and it's gonna go somewhere.

01:29:49.000 So the big mistake people have, and this is a function of going to a government school where everyone's treated as one class, both in the literal class but also the same kind of population, is thinking everyone thinks like you and everyone's wired like you.

01:30:02.000 They're not!

01:30:03.000 Wow.

01:30:03.000 So you have to realize, yeah, there are some bees and there are some wasps.

01:30:07.000 Wasps aren't bees at all.

01:30:08.000 They're actually ants.

01:30:09.000 And realize, okay, I'm dealing with this kind of thing.

01:30:12.000 I have to address them in a certain way.

01:30:14.000 If I'm dealing with somebody else, I have to address them in a different way. 0.77

01:30:17.000 And that's just, and gay people do this for a long time. 0.96

01:30:20.000 Communists had to do this in a very long time. 0.98

01:30:22.000 And black people had to do this. 0.94

01:30:23.000 Mulattoes, this has happened in the 1920s, the Harlem Renaissance. 0.95

01:30:26.000 These are things that you have to study and figure out.

01:30:28.000 And here's the other thing, because they're not bright, they're very big on picking up words.

01:30:33.000 That's why the term for African-American used to be Afro-American, and then previous ones, which I don't even know if I can say anymore.

01:30:39.000 The point is, they kept changing these terms because they would know as they roll out the new term, if you're using a new language, you're part of the in-group.

01:30:46.000 So it's very easy, just adopt their language when you need to to pass, and it'll be like Terminator, they see you use the right terms, they'll leave you alone and move on, and then you can just go about your business.

01:30:57.000 And it's not easy to do, but they're playing the long con, and they've had over 100 years at this.

01:31:02.000 So my understanding of this stuff, having been at it for like 10 years, you're right.

01:31:08.000 I've talked with some activists and made some points, legitimate points, based on their own ideology and caused people on Facebook to back down and apologize.

01:31:16.000 Notably, like, there was an argument, a legitimate political argument, that I was having on Facebook.

01:31:20.000 This was like a year or two ago.

01:31:22.000 Where one person was basically talking about social justice and racial issues and critical race theory.

01:31:27.000 And I started arguing against this, saying freedom, liberty, etc.

01:31:30.000 And they were like, you don't understand.

01:31:31.000 When I pointed out, as everybody knows the meme, that Tim Pool is actually mixed race, they immediately apologized and started arguing with me and agreeing with me because their own ideology essentially dictated it. 0.61

01:31:41.000 When I said, if it is incumbent upon the minority to define something that you right now, as a white person, hear me and recognize my opinions based on my experience, and they said, I'm so sorry, I didn't realize, I guess you're right.

01:31:54.000 And so it's particularly insulting, but I said that to make a point about, if you truly believe this, then wouldn't you then agree with me and argue with me?

01:32:01.000 And they said, Actually, yeah, I will.

01:32:03.000 They don't truly believe anything.

01:32:05.000 They don't use language the same way you use language. 0.95

01:32:08.000 I talked about this with James Lindsay.

01:32:10.000 He was on my show.

01:32:10.000 You're welcome this week.

01:32:11.000 They use language as a form of asserting status and dominance.

01:32:15.000 So at a certain point, you have to realize there's no mind there.

01:32:18.000 And there's not really a point in engaging.

01:32:20.000 It's just power games.

01:32:21.000 And what do you need power games for when you don't want to be part of the beehive? 1.00

01:32:24.000 I don't want to be a part of that stupid game. 1.00

01:32:27.000 Look, I worked for nonprofits. 1.00

01:32:28.000 The thing is, you are part of it.

01:32:30.000 It's social order, and what you're explaining, Michael, is basically... No, you misunderstand, and you gotta let me finish.

01:32:36.000 So my point was, what we're being told to do is, when we're in their system, because we're behind enemy lines, we need to just speak their language, and I won't do that.

01:32:44.000 I did that at non-profits.

01:32:45.000 They said, here's how you communicate with people.

01:32:46.000 I understood the sale, I understood the pitch, and there are some circumstances where, I'll put it this way, I'll be polite.

01:32:51.000 I was at a bar recently, and someone told me they were a huge fan of Kamala Harris, and instead of saying, like, Yeah, Kamala Harris is so great.

01:32:56.000 I was like, I am not a fan, but I'll be polite.

01:32:59.000 I don't want to, you know, get into any contentious, you know, arguments over why.

01:33:03.000 And she asked me like, no, what do you think?

01:33:05.000 And I was like, Kamala Harris kept, you know, minorities kept in prison beyond their sentence to use as dollar an hour slave labor for fighting wildfires.

01:33:13.000 I think that's wrong.

01:33:14.000 I'm willing to say it.

01:33:15.000 I get it.

01:33:15.000 It's going to offend their delicate sensibilities, but I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't care to do that.

01:33:19.000 But what's the upside of engaging with this person?

01:33:22.000 Um, I want to keep out any specific details, but there was.

01:33:27.000 Okay, that's different.

01:33:28.000 Okay, but I'm saying in general, if there's someone at a bar, and they're like, I love Kamala Harris, unless you're trying to take her to bed, it's just like, okay, lady, I don't care what you think.

01:33:34.000 No, but there's issues of instances of business relationships.

01:33:36.000 That's very different.

01:33:37.000 That's very different.

01:33:37.000 Where you're talking to someone and trying to figure out if you can work with someone.

01:33:40.000 And if they come out and say these things, my simple answer is, I'm not going to do business with you.

01:33:44.000 The behind enemy lines metaphor makes me think of hard times make strong men.

01:33:48.000 When you're in a desperate fighting for survival situation, you have to use their language. 0.98

01:33:53.000 And we don't have that in this society because we haven't been in a hard time.

01:33:56.000 So we're like, you know, I'm not going to play that game, but it's like, this is a fight for our lives.

01:34:01.000 This is this daily grind is real.

01:34:03.000 And people are dying on the street.

01:34:04.000 People's houses are getting burned.

01:34:05.000 And that's just in the United States.

01:34:07.000 I don't know if this is true or not, but I remember being told when I was a kid the symbol of the fish, where it came from.

01:34:12.000 And there's a bunch of... The Jesus fish? 0.56

01:34:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:34:15.000 There's stories about like Jesus and two fish, and then there's the dawning of the age of Pisces and things like that.

01:34:20.000 I thought that was Dr. Seuss.

01:34:21.000 What?

01:34:21.000 One fish, two fish?

01:34:23.000 What someone told me is that what they would do is...

01:34:26.000 Because Christians were persecuted, when they met someone, they would draw a curved line in front of them, and if the other person finished a curved line, it would make the shape of a fish, and they knew that it was safe to talk to them about what they believed.

01:34:39.000 I don't know if that's actually true or not.

01:34:40.000 I just was told that by some religious folk when I was, like, very young, about how it was like they had to keep this a secret, and so they would draw the fish symbol between each other.

01:34:47.000 And that's like, it's an interesting idea of what you were mentioning about what people have to do to learn and navigate systems where they're basically outgroup and threatened and they could be destroyed.

01:34:55.000 And also there's a huge asymmetry between cost and benefit.

01:34:59.000 You know what I mean?

01:34:59.000 Like, the benefit of this person is very low, but the cost could be your life.

01:35:03.000 So you really need to figure out how to do the dance.

01:35:05.000 I mean, for me, I'm going to mind my own business and I'm going to keep speaking how I want to speak and I'm going to tell everyone to F off and then if they come for me, you know, I don't know, whatever.

01:35:13.000 If it comes to the point where YouTube's like, you can no longer say that, like, Tim Pool is now banned to defend Kyle Rittenhouse, I'll be like, yeah, I'm banned.

01:35:23.000 Twitch did it.

01:35:24.000 Twitch did it.

01:35:25.000 You literally can't defend Kyle Rittenhouse on Twitch.

01:35:26.000 Is that right?

01:35:27.000 So we had Destiny on the show, and he's a leftist, and we had a debate.

01:35:30.000 He's very much into critical race theory.

01:35:32.000 He was banned from the partner program for defending Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:35:35.000 He's a leftist guy, and he said, it was the clearest case of self-defense I've ever seen!

01:35:40.000 They banned him from the partner program.

01:35:41.000 Well, Twitch is owned by Amazon and Amazon runs the servers for Twitter.

01:35:45.000 So maybe we'll see some Twitter activity in that vein.

01:35:48.000 But I'm also very hopeful that now that so many people are aware of what Amazon's power is in this in this context.

01:35:56.000 You think of Amazon as products.

01:35:57.000 You don't think of it as running servers and booting off Gab.

01:36:01.000 What was the other one?

01:36:02.000 Parler.

01:36:03.000 That there are already, I'm sure, people in place who are like, OK, we need to create workarounds so Amazon can never do this again.

01:36:10.000 Yeah.

01:36:11.000 And it's just going to be a matter of a couple of years at most, in my opinion.

01:36:13.000 Oh, yeah.

01:36:14.000 I would love a decentralized.

01:36:15.000 But I mean, we're talking about doing it.

01:36:16.000 Am I wrong that there's lots of people who are trying to work?

01:36:19.000 You're right about that.

01:36:20.000 How about we go to Super Chats, my friends?

01:36:21.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button.

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01:36:40.000 We're like 10K away.

01:36:41.000 And we'd love to break it with all of your help, everybody who's watching.

01:36:45.000 What is this?

01:36:46.000 I was just excited.

01:36:47.000 Oh yeah, we're so close.

01:36:48.000 Me and Michael made eye contact.

01:36:49.000 It was a moment.

01:36:51.000 We're on it.

01:36:52.000 And then YouTube will send us that gold award, and then we'll be banned in a month, but we'll see.

01:36:58.000 I just want that gold thing.

01:36:59.000 Smash that like button.

01:37:00.000 Let's read these super chats.

01:37:01.000 Let's see what y'all got saying.

01:37:02.000 What y'all got going on.

01:37:03.000 What y'all got saying?

01:37:04.000 I don't even know what I'm talking about.

01:37:05.000 What do they like best about me?

01:37:07.000 There you go.

01:37:07.000 Please, everyone, super chat what you like best about Michael Malice.

01:37:11.000 That is important.

01:37:13.000 You know, I got a bunch of emails from people that said what I like best about Michael Malice is, and we actually hired a guy because of it.

01:37:18.000 Good.

01:37:18.000 I hope he had a good answer.

01:37:19.000 He did have a good answer.

01:37:20.000 What was his answer?

01:37:21.000 I don't remember.

01:37:22.000 That it wasn't good.

01:37:23.000 No, it was.

01:37:24.000 He'd remember it if it was good.

01:37:25.000 But it was also interesting that many of these people saw you tweet this You know, so for those that don't understand the context, there was a, I think you referenced someone we should hire.

01:37:37.000 I recommended his username is LockoutDaze on YouTube.

01:37:40.000 And then you said, you know, the email better say what I like best about Michael Malice is.

01:37:44.000 And then I said, if we don't see that, we throw it in the trash as a joke.

01:37:47.000 And then we got a small handful of people who were paying attention.

01:37:50.000 So I was like, Attention to detail is extremely underrated in terms of hiring.

01:37:55.000 Being active in the conversation.

01:37:57.000 And if someone's being, I hate this word, being proactive about like, well, just in case he asked this question, let me give him an answer.

01:38:03.000 That's someone who's ahead of the game.

01:38:05.000 Absolutely.

01:38:06.000 Yeah.

01:38:06.000 I mean, they were paying attention.

01:38:07.000 So I was like, that shows these are people who are likely active in the space.

01:38:11.000 They know what's going on.

01:38:12.000 They're following similar people.

01:38:14.000 It's a good sign.

01:38:15.000 All right.

01:38:16.000 Let's read some super chats.

01:38:18.000 I need to drink more water.

01:38:18.000 Oh yeah.

01:38:19.000 Spencer Predholm says, Tim, I'm still waiting on my tinfoil hat shirt.

01:38:22.000 Any news when it comes out?

01:38:24.000 Man, I am just dropping the ball on this one.

01:38:27.000 The tinfoil hat.

01:38:28.000 I'm a gorilla.

01:38:28.000 Oh yeah.

01:38:29.000 I'll get it.

01:38:29.000 I'll get it done.

01:38:30.000 They can, what you can do is go to maliceshirts.com and get my COVID positive shirt.

01:38:36.000 Can you do me a favor and write down tinfoil hat gorilla so I remember?

01:38:40.000 I will write this down.

01:38:41.000 I have the tinfoil hat in my house.

01:38:43.000 Alex Jones' tinfoil hat.

01:38:44.000 So we have a version of the gorilla wearing a tinfoil hat.

01:38:47.000 And we're gonna make a, probably do it as like a limited edition.

01:38:49.000 I think the Diamond Hands gorilla will be going away soon as well.

01:38:52.000 The I am a gorilla will be around forever.

01:38:53.000 But I think the special versions will only leave up for like a month or so.

01:38:57.000 I'm part of meme history.

01:38:58.000 And let's give a shout out to the guy who made that video, Pink Trip.

01:39:01.000 Which one was that?

01:39:02.000 The I'm Gorilla video.

01:39:03.000 When he made a little video of you and me and Alex.

01:39:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:39:07.000 I wanted to use that as an ad to promote the show on YouTube and run that as an ad.

01:39:11.000 Like, watch this and have people confused.

01:39:14.000 I guess I'll click it.

01:39:16.000 Those videos are great, by the way.

01:39:17.000 Yeah, they are.

01:39:18.000 I love that stuff.

01:39:18.000 Alright, let's read some more.

01:39:19.000 He's never made one of me, though.

01:39:21.000 The Curly Afro says, just like the states that paid blood and treasure to enter the Union, so did Puerto Rico.

01:39:26.000 For 104 years, we have paid the price of admission.

01:39:28.000 We earned statehood.

01:39:30.000 Statehood, por favor.

01:39:31.000 By the way, apes together strong.

01:39:33.000 Hey, there you go.

01:39:33.000 That's true.

01:39:35.000 All right.

01:39:35.000 A lot of people, some people shout out Tom MacDonald.

01:39:37.000 We'd love to have him on the show.

01:39:38.000 We'll see if that happens.

01:39:39.000 Make 1984 fiction again.

01:39:42.000 He says, your four o'clock segment I mostly agreed with, but he was a criminal despite the fact that he was a drug addict.

01:39:47.000 Being addicted to drugs is not a disease, it's a choice.

01:39:49.000 I was addicted to opiates for eight years, my brother four years, and he's no longer with us.

01:39:55.000 I just think, I hear what you're saying.

01:39:57.000 I think, okay, it's a crime.

01:39:59.000 Fine.

01:40:00.000 But when you get detained, it should be like, we're bringing you to a clinic.

01:40:04.000 We're not going to put you in a cell and we're not going to take away your rights.

01:40:07.000 We want to make sure we can help you get through this.

01:40:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:40:09.000 And I know this argument, but it's not always an informed choice.

01:40:13.000 Like, you don't know, none of us in this room, I can't speak for you guys, none of us know what it's like to go through withdrawal from heroin.

01:40:19.000 So you might know theoretically, okay, withdrawal really sucks, but unless you've, like, here's a parallel example that's not going to be as political.

01:40:27.000 Unless you've had to deal with suicidal ideation, you're not going to understand what that feels like.

01:40:32.000 I mean, God forbid, I hope none of you ever had to deal with that.

01:40:34.000 Go ahead.

01:40:34.000 And I have to interject here because I worked in a cardiac unit and I worked with people who were withdrawing from multiple different drugs, including alcohol.

01:40:41.000 They actually closed down a ward close to my house because too many babies were being born there that were already addicted to heroin.

01:40:49.000 You don't know what hand you're dealt.

01:40:50.000 You don't know what people are dealing with.

01:40:52.000 And past a certain point, it is a physiological dependency.

01:40:55.000 Yeah.

01:40:55.000 We got a very, very important super chat here from Jem R. Wow.

01:40:59.000 Serious stuff.

01:41:00.000 He says, for malice, looking dapper.

01:41:03.000 Enjoyed his chat with James Lindsay recently too.

01:41:06.000 Looking dapper, Michael.

01:41:07.000 Thank you.

01:41:08.000 Very dapper.

01:41:09.000 Aw, I love it.

01:41:10.000 MK Painter says, Michael, tell me your best radio-free Armenia joke.

01:41:14.000 Is that going to get us in trouble, or what is that?

01:41:16.000 I don't know what that means.

01:41:17.000 I'm not Armenia, I'm from Ukraine.

01:41:18.000 Radio-free Armenia? 0.72

01:41:20.000 I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be... I don't know what that means.

01:41:23.000 Socratic Disciple says, Tim, your idea about preventing people from funding candidates outside their district is flawed.

01:41:29.000 Just give money to a relative who lives in that area and have them make the donation for you.

01:41:33.000 Aha, but that is actually a felony.

01:41:35.000 Yeah, if you try to donate to a candidate, if you donate to a candidate, and then I'm like, okay, now we'll give Ian money, now Ian can do it, it's called a felony.

01:41:43.000 Isn't that what happened to Dinesh D'Souza?

01:41:44.000 It happens to a lot of people, because basically the limit's pretty low where it was, and then it's like... 2,800?

01:41:50.000 Yeah, so if it's 2,800, I'll just find, I'll be a bundler or whatever, I think this is what they were doing, I'll find 10 people, I'll write out the $28,000 check and just put down their names.

01:41:57.000 So this was a workaround, but this is not something that they got away with.

01:41:59.000 Yeah, no, it's a crime to do that, so... I definitely think, like, I think the gist of the conversation, especially after sleeping on it, we talked about it, my current position is, I do think it's a problem that a handful of billionaires can suppress the will of so many people.

01:42:15.000 I just don't know what the solution is, because it's way too much of a complicated problem.

01:42:19.000 Let's have a long conversation if I ever come on, because this is something that is very complicated, and I don't know that there is an alternative.

01:42:26.000 And I don't know that the millions of people have a will.

01:42:30.000 Ooh, spicy.

01:42:30.000 I'm turned off by popularity contests.

01:42:32.000 Yeah.

01:42:33.000 Especially when it comes to running the show.

01:42:34.000 Especially because I keep losing them.

01:42:36.000 You'll win, Michael.

01:42:37.000 You'll win.

01:42:38.000 You got this.

01:42:43.000 AJ says, Hey Tim, first time super chatter.

01:42:45.000 Look into Smartlands cryptocurrency built off the Stellar platform.

01:42:49.000 Right on.

01:42:50.000 Dez says, Told my friend I got red-pilled last summer.

01:42:52.000 Out of curiosity, he Googled it and thought I became a misogynist and white supremacist despite being Mexican.

01:42:57.000 Where's the lie?

01:42:58.000 Yeah, but that was the article.

01:42:59.000 No lies detected!

01:43:03.000 I mean, that's why I don't like saying red pill.

01:43:04.000 I just say, you know, a realization.

01:43:07.000 Man, I realized the media wasn't telling me the truth.

01:43:09.000 It's an easy way to put it.

01:43:10.000 And a red pill.

01:43:11.000 That's not the same as a red pill, though.

01:43:12.000 Well, how would you describe it?

01:43:13.000 Let's see if I can quote my book accurately.

01:43:15.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:43:16.000 What is this?

01:43:16.000 You get a super chat and you get two things?

01:43:17.000 Being red-pilled is the realization that what is presented by fact by the corporate press

01:43:21.000 is in actuality a carefully designed narrative meant to keep some very unpleasant people

01:43:27.000 in power.

01:43:28.000 Yeah.

01:43:29.000 Butters Oregano says, two things, malice needs a beanie that matches his tie.

01:43:34.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:43:36.000 What is this?

01:43:37.000 You get a super chat and you get two things?

01:43:39.000 One thing per chat.

01:43:41.000 You guys got the wallets?

01:43:42.000 Open them up.

01:43:43.000 He says Malice needs a beanie that matches his tie and the difference between a fiscal elite using their money to buy advertisements and someone watching your show is the choice to watch your show versus being forced to visually imbibe the propaganda.

01:43:54.000 Okay.

01:43:58.000 Orion Nero says, how far do you guys believe they'll try pushing the censorship nonsense?

01:44:03.000 Who could say what when they're eating each other alive for the power?

01:44:06.000 As far as they can.

01:44:07.000 Yeah, Crowder didn't break any rules.

01:44:09.000 The only thing that stops it is going to be counter power.

01:44:11.000 That's just inertia.

01:44:14.000 Yeah, I think you're right about that.

01:44:17.000 They're clearly totalitarian in their worldview.

01:44:20.000 They make no bones about it.

01:44:22.000 If something bad is happening anywhere on earth, it's somehow their business.

01:44:26.000 So there's no limits.

01:44:27.000 What?

01:44:28.000 We got a big super chat?

01:44:29.000 It's not a big one.

01:44:30.000 It's just one of the best.

01:44:31.000 Is it Adrian?

01:44:31.000 Hi, Adrian.

01:44:32.000 Bug HQ for us says, I own a cricket farm in NC named Bug HQ.

01:44:37.000 Please check us out for your reptile food, guys.

01:44:39.000 Tim, I'd love to send you some free crickets for Chicken City.

01:44:43.000 It's fun to watch them attack a few hundred.

01:44:46.000 Absolutely.

01:44:47.000 We will be reaching out to you, Bug HQ.

01:44:49.000 Why would you want to pay those exorbitant cricket prices for something the farmer probably spit in?

01:44:55.000 That's a fair point!

01:44:56.000 That was an old Simpsons joke about orange juice.

01:44:59.000 Crickets are so expensive!

01:45:04.000 Oh man, what, back when Simpsons were good?

01:45:06.000 Yeah!

01:45:08.000 That was when there was a plague that hit Springfield, the Osaka Fluid. 0.97

01:45:10.000 Yeah, the juicer.

01:45:11.000 But why is that a disgrace?

01:45:12.000 This triggered me a little bit.

01:45:13.000 Graf von Tirol says, it's a complete disgrace that we're more likely to get more matter-of-fact

01:45:17.000 news about America from British and Australian news sources.

01:45:19.000 But why is that a disgrace?

01:45:22.000 I'm gonna, okay, this triggered me a little bit.

01:45:26.000 You are expect, you are being blue-pilled, it's like when the guy's a player and he tells the

01:45:32.000 girl, I'm not a player, baby, I just want to get to know you.

01:45:35.000 Of course the corporate press is going to tell you, we're honest, we're here to tell you the news about America.

01:45:41.000 Why would you believe them at face value?

01:45:44.000 Good question.

01:45:45.000 I'm sorry.

01:45:46.000 I just, I just saw a super chat and I'm just losing it.

01:45:48.000 All right.

01:45:49.000 Pops Vindaloo says rabbit butt cud.

01:45:53.000 What? 0.76

01:45:53.000 We were talking about rabbits eating their own poo. 0.76

01:45:55.000 Butt cud. 1.00

01:45:56.000 And so he super chatted rabbit butt cud. 0.98

01:45:58.000 RBC. 0.97

01:46:01.000 Oh man, rabbits are gross. 1.00

01:46:03.000 They're not easy to care for.

01:46:04.000 A lot of people think they are.

01:46:04.000 And they're not friendly.

01:46:06.000 And they're always panicky.

01:46:08.000 Amy Sedaris is always into rabbits as pets. 1.00

01:46:12.000 All right, let's see.

01:46:13.000 This is in Cyrillic, I think.

01:46:14.000 I can't read it.

01:46:15.000 I know how to read it. 0.93

01:46:17.000 It says... You will die in a fiery plane crash. 0.99

01:46:23.000 A-N-E-K... I can't read it when you're reading in English. 1.00

01:46:28.000 Backwards R, a circle with a line through it.

01:46:31.000 I'm kidding.

01:46:32.000 I don't know.

01:46:33.000 So they say, and it says rubles.

01:46:35.000 What insane historical trivia will we get today from Michael?

01:46:38.000 Maybe some opinions on Batco Makhno.

01:46:42.000 Makhno? 0.94

01:46:44.000 Muscle?

01:46:45.000 I don't know.

01:46:46.000 M-A-C what? 0.96

01:46:47.000 M-A-K-H-N-O. 1.00

01:46:48.000 H-M-A-C-B-A-T-C-O? 0.96

01:46:51.000 Batco? 0.97

01:46:52.000 I'd have to see it.

01:46:54.000 I only learned how to read Russian in college, so I'm very bad at it.

01:46:57.000 Well, they just wasted their rubles.

01:46:59.000 No, there you go.

01:46:59.000 Jmax says, I had opioids prescribed to me for back pain following a military work accident.

01:47:04.000 Your body starts to build a resistance to the prescribed amount, and it feels like you have to take more just to ease the pain.

01:47:09.000 I had to stop taking them just to spare my body permanent damage.

01:47:13.000 Wise move.

01:47:14.000 I was given Percocets.

01:47:15.000 I took one and it was just like floating on a cloud, man.

01:47:18.000 Like you said.

01:47:19.000 I took that methadone once.

01:47:21.000 This is not an endorsement of taking Percocets.

01:47:23.000 No, I'm telling you this is a horror story.

01:47:25.000 This is the danger of taking Percocets, kids.

01:47:26.000 Horror story.

01:47:27.000 And so I said, I'd rather have the pain.

01:47:30.000 Absolutely.

01:47:31.000 Here's the thing.

01:47:32.000 You're going to have the pain now or you're going to have it later.

01:47:34.000 So you'd rather pay the little pain now than the years of paying on that mortgage.

01:47:40.000 Yep.

01:47:41.000 And hey, THC and medical marijuana is such a blessing, I think, that this country has yet to fully adopt.

01:47:46.000 But it also is a painkiller.

01:47:47.000 It's like a natural homeopathic... What do you know about weed?

01:47:50.000 I've heard about it.

01:47:51.000 Check this out.

01:47:51.000 I read about it in the book once.

01:47:52.000 Hey, this is a really important point someone brought up on Superchat we didn't get to.

01:47:55.000 I did mention this on my 4 o'clock segment.

01:47:57.000 The purpose of pleading the fifth could be because he sold the drugs that could possibly have caused the overdose death of George Floyd.

01:48:03.000 Oh, sure.

01:48:04.000 He could be charged with manslaughter, especially if there's an acquittal of Chauvin.

01:48:07.000 That actually is third-degree murder, I believe.

01:48:10.000 So I read through the laws.

01:48:12.000 It says if you supply someone with a substance, a controlled substance, that results in their death, it's a murder charge.

01:48:19.000 He pled the fifth because the defense is going for he died from the overdose, and they were probably going to be like, and he did it.

01:48:26.000 I'm not a lawyer, none of us are, but I'm going to just throw this out there because this is something I thought was pretty standard practice.

01:48:32.000 You plead the fifth, what happens when they give you immunity?

01:48:35.000 Can't they force you to testify?

01:48:37.000 Yes.

01:48:37.000 Yep.

01:48:38.000 So this might just have been a pause.

01:48:41.000 Right.

01:48:41.000 So they'll offer him immunity and then he'll be forced, he'll be subpoenaed and forced to testify.

01:48:46.000 And then the defense will say, did you sell him these drugs?

01:48:49.000 And then he'll look to the jury and say, reasonable doubt.

01:48:51.000 By the way, I also want to point out this speaks to the anarchist idea that equality under the law is a complete lie, because if there was equality under the law, there's no such thing as forcing someone to testify because you can't acquit them of a crime just because you want to get somebody else.

01:49:04.000 Everyone has to be tried or no one.

01:49:06.000 Right?

01:49:08.000 Gn. G and ecos first super chat might as well be on my birthday. Happy birthday

01:49:12.000 Gray the province of BC has decided to shut down indoor dining

01:49:16.000 So my family business in a town of 4,000 people has to pay for the rise in case numbers predominantly in the big 0.97

01:49:21.000 cities PS Trevor sucks. Who's Trevor? He sucks. Yeah, he's the 0.97

01:49:26.000 worst Trevor

01:49:31.000 Oh, God.

01:49:31.000 I don't want everyone to hear his name again.

01:49:33.000 I'm going to read the super chat.

01:49:34.000 I'm going to read the super chat.

01:49:36.000 That's your job.

01:49:36.000 But you might not be happy about it.

01:49:38.000 Well, then you'll be very unhappy about it.

01:49:39.000 Oh, yeah?

01:49:40.000 Yeah.

01:49:40.000 I'm reading it anyway.

01:49:41.000 Eric Miller says, So, Michael, you say we didn't deserve Donald Trump.

01:49:45.000 Now, do we deserve Joe Biden?

01:49:48.000 OK.

01:49:49.000 God, Eric.

01:49:49.000 God, help me.

01:49:50.000 You're right.

01:49:53.000 I'm sure.

01:49:53.000 No, no, no.

01:49:53.000 I didn't read the last part.

01:49:54.000 I'm saving that.

01:49:55.000 OK.

01:49:55.000 I didn't say.

01:49:57.000 OK. 1.00

01:49:57.000 God damn it, Eric. 1.00

01:49:58.000 You're worse than Trevor. 1.00

01:50:01.000 All right, you ready for the last?

01:50:03.000 I don't think I am.

01:50:04.000 Also love the Clark Kent look you got going on.

01:50:07.000 I don't know what he's talking about.

01:50:08.000 Yeah, I don't get that either.

01:50:09.000 Yeah, I don't get that part.

01:50:12.000 My quote, which Tim has picked up on very well, and Lydia as well, and I'm assuming Ian, is whenever I have a Trump tweet, or now he's the press releases, I say, we don't deserve him.

01:50:22.000 That could be read as he's awful, or like, we don't deserve this, or that he's awesome.

01:50:29.000 And it's intentionally both.

01:50:30.000 Because he is awful in many ways, and he is awesome in other ways.

01:50:34.000 There you go.

01:50:35.000 Alright, Alex Moore says... And no, we don't deserve a president.

01:50:38.000 Or any government.

01:50:39.000 Well, you do!

01:50:40.000 You do.

01:50:40.000 What's his name?

01:50:41.000 Alex?

01:50:42.000 Eric.

01:50:43.000 You're worse than Trevor. 0.98

01:50:43.000 You deserve to Gitmo. 0.98

01:50:44.000 Oh snap.

01:50:45.000 Go to stickitmo.com.

01:50:46.000 All right, Alex Moore says, this Super Chat is for your members only rant on not backing

01:50:53.000 down last night.

01:50:54.000 It was absolutely awesome.

01:50:56.000 When does the dating site kick off?

01:50:57.000 I don't think we're going to make a TimCast dating site.

01:50:59.000 But yeah, I got mad.

01:51:01.000 I was yelling.

01:51:02.000 I was just like, I'm so sick of growing up in Chicago and seeing people just abuse and

01:51:08.000 It's just like, it's very much just like a superhero movie where you watch the villain beating down the poor people and the hero comes in and he makes them stop.

01:51:15.000 And I'm like, nah, dude, there's no superheroes here.

01:51:20.000 There's one.

01:51:22.000 Villains are real, but the superheroes are only on TV.

01:51:26.000 That means you have to stand up to these people.

01:51:29.000 And if everybody did, things would be different.

01:51:31.000 It'd be very different if people were just brave enough.

01:51:34.000 First of all, I think that's my favorite thing I've heard you say today, and I'm gonna build on that to another point.

01:51:40.000 I've given a couple talks to young kids about networking, and one of my favorite pieces of advice to give them, I say, if you know someone is having their birthday, and they're not doing anything, take them out for dinner, and do it for selfish reasons.

01:51:52.000 And the audience laughs, and I go, I'm serious, because the guy who takes people out for their birthday is awesome.

01:51:58.000 You could be that person.

01:52:00.000 All it's costing you is 30 bucks, 40 bucks.

01:52:02.000 You have that power.

01:52:04.000 Maybe you're not going to be literally Superman, but you could still be a better version of yourself.

01:52:09.000 And when you're a better version of yourself, happiness and success follows, and everyone has that capacity.

01:52:15.000 Almost, except for Trevor. 1.00

01:52:17.000 He's garbage! 1.00

01:52:18.000 I know, isn't he the worst? 1.00

01:52:21.000 There's only a few people who would ever live up to the strength of Superman.

01:52:26.000 You know what I mean?

01:52:26.000 It's like a small... Very few.

01:52:28.000 Supergirl, Dev M, Bizarro, Streaky, Comet, the Super Horse.

01:52:34.000 I just mean figuratively, you know what I mean?

01:52:37.000 Mono.

01:52:37.000 Figuratively.

01:52:38.000 Some people, some people, they try to claim, or masquerade, perhaps, as someone as great as Superman. 0.99

01:52:46.000 But they're deceivers, and manipulators, and liars. 0.96

01:52:48.000 Every once in a while you get one person. 0.96

01:52:49.000 You sound like Martin Luther.

01:52:52.000 And they're lies.

01:52:56.000 Well, I'll just tell you this, man.

01:52:57.000 You gotta be careful about the false superheroes, you know?

01:53:00.000 Who brandish themselves as the symbols of the heroes.

01:53:02.000 You mean Sully?

01:53:04.000 Sully?

01:53:04.000 Who's that?

01:53:05.000 The failed Muhammad Atta? 0.99

01:53:06.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:53:08.000 The pilot!

01:53:09.000 Oh, that's right, right.

01:53:09.000 He couldn't fly the plane or whatever.

01:53:11.000 He wanted to fly into the Empire State Building and he had to land into a river.

01:53:14.000 East River.

01:53:18.000 Sunny James says, I'd love to argue about cultural issues, but I beg you, Tim or Michael, please do a segment on bio-surveillance and the powerful interests involved in backing TSA 2.0, the new fake war on germs.

01:53:37.000 Ooh, that's a great topic.

01:53:39.000 That was a great topic.

01:53:40.000 Thank you.

01:53:41.000 I mean, it's a long, long conversation.

01:53:43.000 We'd have to do some research.

01:53:44.000 But this is very smart.

01:53:46.000 This is next-gen totalitarianism.

01:53:48.000 I would like to watch you guys with Ben Stewart talk about that.

01:53:50.000 He has a lot of research on that.

01:53:51.000 Have you ever talked with Jimmy Dore?

01:53:53.000 Have you done a show with him?

01:53:55.000 We follow each other.

01:53:55.000 I've slid into his DMs.

01:53:58.000 No reply.

01:53:59.000 Ah, bummer.

01:54:00.000 Jimmy's a good dude.

01:54:01.000 I know, I'm a fan.

01:54:03.000 I've talked to him periodically, I've been on his show.

01:54:05.000 That must be nice.

01:54:08.000 Yeah, well, you know, see us people up here in the clouds.

01:54:12.000 You mean like me and Jordan?

01:54:13.000 I call him Jordan now.

01:54:16.000 Sorry Dimfool!

01:54:18.000 No time for this! 1.00

01:54:23.000 Get all those beanies off your bed, asshole. 1.00

01:54:26.000 I love Pim Tool and Dimfool. 1.00

01:54:29.000 Cause it's like... You know what the best of those is?

01:54:31.000 Tronald Dump.

01:54:33.000 Someone said that I'm like, oh my God, this is actually clever.

01:54:36.000 But you know what?

01:54:37.000 You know, it's funny to me. 0.99

01:54:37.000 Like when I see people tweet Pim Tool or Dim Fool or whatever, or Tim Pool is a dim fool. 0.99

01:54:41.000 It's just like seeing chickens cluck. 0.99

01:54:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:44.000 It's super clever.

01:54:45.000 There's like, there's like, you know, you didn't say a thing to me.

01:54:48.000 But I think it's, that's very tongue in cheek and kind of ribbing you.

01:54:52.000 It's not serious, right?

01:54:53.000 No, a lot of the Pim Tool one is serious.

01:54:54.000 Okay.

01:54:54.000 But the Dim Fool is clearly a fans of the show who are ribbing with you.

01:54:58.000 No, no, no, no.

01:54:59.000 Like it's the left who started.

01:55:00.000 I thought, I thought that was because of my knock knock joke.

01:55:03.000 I think it was.

01:55:04.000 Oh, it's been on for a long time. 0.97

01:55:05.000 Dim Fool? 0.95

01:55:06.000 Really?

01:55:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:08.000 Oh, I thought it was my joke.

01:55:09.000 Okay, I'm telling you a lot of those people are taking it for my joke.

01:55:10.000 Oh, I think it's hilarious.

01:55:11.000 It makes me laugh every time I see it.

01:55:12.000 Yeah, your barrel laughs, Tim.

01:55:14.000 Yeah, I don't understand.

01:55:18.000 I don't understand what it is about these leftists who, when they come at me on Twitter

01:55:22.000 or they try and insult me.

01:55:24.000 I'm going to stop.

01:55:25.000 It's clear they're just saying it so their friends see it.

01:55:28.000 Because it impacts me.

01:55:30.000 Sometimes they trust you.

01:55:33.000 I, of all people, know what you mean.

01:55:34.000 Because I get that too.

01:55:36.000 When people tell you to sit down and shut up, I'm like, literally what do you think this is going to accomplish on Twitter?

01:55:41.000 You're not in my house.

01:55:42.000 I am sitting down.

01:55:43.000 I'm in my underwear all the time.

01:55:44.000 So how are you in a position to tell me to shut up?

01:55:46.000 But it's a net positive.

01:55:48.000 So when I first started getting Twitter followers and stuff during Occupy Wall Street, my initial reaction in the first week or so was anxiety.

01:55:54.000 No joke.

01:55:55.000 I had never had this level of attention.

01:55:57.000 All of a sudden, people were tweeting at me like crazy, insulting me and calling me crazy things.

01:56:00.000 Half of them were nice, half of them were bad.

01:56:02.000 And I was like, what is this? 1.00

01:56:04.000 And then very quickly, I was like, these people are dumb. 1.00

01:56:06.000 And I started ignoring it. 1.00

01:56:07.000 They're bees.

01:56:08.000 But then, a week or two later, I started getting excited every time I saw it.

01:56:11.000 You know why? 0.94

01:56:11.000 Because you were sexually attracted to bees. 0.94

01:56:13.000 Yeah, I was just like, wow, this is great.

01:56:16.000 Every single time these people were tweeting at me, I started to realize I was like, man, am I doing something important?

01:56:24.000 Am I all of a sudden one of these people that everyone's talking about?

01:56:26.000 Am I an influencer?

01:56:27.000 Yeah, you're like, wow.

01:56:29.000 I started realizing that hate didn't matter because it doesn't change my opinions.

01:56:32.000 It just means that my opinions matter to people.

01:56:35.000 You can read the love and the hate as like a social study and not to take either of them personally.

01:56:40.000 It can blow your ego up or rip it down if you let it take it personally.

01:56:43.000 Don't.

01:56:43.000 But just look at the waves of emotions that are occurring and then kind of incorporate that into how you're behaving and try and modulate.

01:56:50.000 People ask me sometimes how I deal with it, and I don't think I'm good at dealing with it in this sense, because being a New Yorker all my life, if a homeless person comes up to you and starts screaming things, even if those insults are things you might be insecure about or are true, it's not going to permeate.

01:57:05.000 Your only thought in your mind is, I have to get away from this homeless person before it escalates, or I don't care.

01:57:10.000 So if someone comes at you on Twitter and says, blah, blah, blah, it's just like, I didn't know you existed three seconds ago.

01:57:15.000 You don't like me.

01:57:16.000 That's fine.

01:57:17.000 I'm not for everyone.

01:57:19.000 Go live your best life.

01:57:21.000 Why would you think I would care?

01:57:22.000 Yeah, I was thinking about playing a song with different qualities of instruments.

01:57:28.000 Maybe you need the right quality of instrument to really appreciate the music.

01:57:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a great metaphor.

01:57:34.000 Like a theremin.

01:57:35.000 Come on, Mario.

01:57:38.000 Conti says, I'm in the military and now being told that if I own any cryptocurrency I need to sell it or risk losing my security clearance.

01:57:46.000 Same with marijuana stocks. 0.83

01:57:47.000 I find that to be ridiculous. 0.69

01:57:49.000 It's not ridiculous.

01:57:50.000 If you're signing up for the military, they own you.

01:57:53.000 Yeah, man.

01:57:53.000 So it's not ridiculous at all.

01:57:56.000 So, Ghost Crusader says, Tim, PayPal can snap their fingers and end your career.

01:57:59.000 Yep.

01:57:59.000 Very much.

01:58:00.000 That's absolutely true.

01:58:01.000 Yep.

01:58:02.000 Many horror stories.

01:58:04.000 But, so, your banking institutions can?

01:58:06.000 And these other platforms can.

01:58:08.000 What I'm saying is we need to minimize the links in the chain.

01:58:11.000 Because if you have 10 different services, any one of them, so you're creating more risk.

01:58:15.000 So minimize that risk.

01:58:17.000 Or I mean, to be pedantic, you want to maximize the links.

01:58:20.000 So if one link breaks, you've got 80 backup links.

01:58:22.000 You want to maximize the amount of chains for different links.

01:58:25.000 So what I'm saying is, if you have a business where you upload to three channels, then you've got, you know, all of these different companies.

01:58:33.000 I guess I should say, It's not necessarily a good analogy.

01:58:37.000 If you're on Locals, then it's you, two Locals.

01:58:41.000 Yes.

01:58:41.000 And then you have your payment processor, and then Locals has DNS.

01:58:44.000 The problem is that with each and every person resting in the basket of Patreon, Locals, or Subscribestore, or any of these platforms, it's putting weight on their chain between their services.

01:58:54.000 And at any point, they might be like, we gotta toss some people out of the bucket, otherwise we go down with everyone else.

01:59:00.000 Minimize that so that there's one chain with a bunch of people dangling evenly.

01:59:04.000 Everything's fine.

01:59:05.000 Well, one person might get thrown out by somebody else, but I just want to minimize who has control over this.

01:59:10.000 I heartily endorse this product or event.

01:59:12.000 All right, let's see where we're at.

01:59:16.000 Jay Stewart says, Tim, by banning people, they divide how much support they can receive.

01:59:20.000 Corporations can work together and provide a cheap central location for access.

01:59:24.000 But if people want to support you and Crowder, the cost has suddenly doubled.

01:59:29.000 Well, how much are you willing to put forward to defend the ideas you like or the shows that you like?

01:59:35.000 I mean, there are people who spend, just without even thinking about it, they're probably spending $100 between their Disney+, their Netflix, their Hulu, and, you know, Paramount, or whatever, or CBS.

01:59:44.000 All these different things, $10, $15.

01:59:46.000 How much are you willing to spend for independent channels?

01:59:49.000 I think one of the problems is, and this is why we want to do shows, someone says, it's $10 a month to be a member of TimCast.com for this one show, and then it's, you know, $10 a month for Mug Club, and then it's $10 a month.

01:59:59.000 Now it's like, I want five shows, and it costs me $100, whereas I can get 300 shows from one Netflix or from one Prime or whatever.

02:00:08.000 So that's why I'm like, we need to have as many shows as possible under, you know, TimCast.com membership.

02:00:14.000 So we're gonna have shows, we're gonna have documentaries, I'm gonna hire some reporters, we're gonna get writers, and we're gonna make this whole big, massive thing.

02:00:20.000 What I was shocked at, and this is because of my senior citizen status, how many people there are who are tripping over themselves, who see, I guess this is kind of like at a restaurant, like no one doesn't tip, like it's just a given you're going to tip.

02:00:33.000 How many people, and this is something that happened very recently in internet culture, are very eager to be like, I own a business, I'm a stay-at-home mom, it's important to me that you're taking those bullets in up front.

02:00:43.000 So let me give you those five bucks a month because you're saying things that I can't.

02:00:47.000 I didn't realize how many of those people are there and they pay my rent and I'm very, very grateful.

02:00:53.000 And, you know, this is kind of my immigrant brain.

02:00:56.000 If you've never met me and you're giving me that five bucks, that's like buying me a drink.

02:00:59.000 That is such a sign of respect and I do not take it for granted and it really is very moving when I get to be that guy.

02:01:05.000 It is like in Dragon Ball Z when Goku, needing to defeat Vegeta, summoned the energy for the Spirit Bomb, and everyone gave their energy to Goku.

02:01:15.000 Five dollars apiece.

02:01:19.000 My Virginia just came back.

02:01:22.000 I'm going to mispronounce your name again.

02:01:24.000 He says, Gray Giannikos, mispronouncing my name is a sign of racism.

02:01:28.000 But hey, thanks for the extra super chat.

02:01:31.000 It's Greek, I think.

02:01:32.000 I will admit to mispronouncing your name.

02:01:35.000 Clayton from Illinois says, Michael, did you really mean that all cops are criminals or was that hyperbolic? 0.93

02:01:41.000 All cops are criminals.

02:01:42.000 They're not all on the take. 0.83

02:01:44.000 They're not all corrupt.

02:01:46.000 But if you look at, there was this footage I'm sure you probably talked about in your show, Tim.

02:01:49.000 I think it was Holland or Belgium where there are people in a park and there was like an older man who's maybe 70 and there's a cop running by him on horseback clubbing him over the head.

02:01:59.000 And he was, why are you laughing? 0.93

02:02:00.000 It's a ridiculous story. 0.99

02:02:01.000 It's crazy. 0.99

02:02:02.000 Oh, but I mean, it was extremely disturbing to see old people getting clubbed and his head was smashed open.

02:02:07.000 That's the good apple.

02:02:09.000 The good apples aren't the ones on the take.

02:02:11.000 They're the ones who smile and nod and follow orders.

02:02:14.000 And many of those orders are complete crimes.

02:02:18.000 So when I say all cops are criminal, If you are enforcing a law that makes someone unsafe in their home and makes them unable to fulfill their Second Amendment rights, yes, you are a criminal.

02:02:29.000 All cops are criminals.

02:02:30.000 This is what I find really funny. 0.75

02:02:31.000 There was some guy who argues with me on Facebook who clearly doesn't watch the show.

02:02:34.000 And he's like, you just keep saying the same things.

02:02:35.000 Your opinion never changes.

02:02:37.000 It's just confirmation bias.

02:02:38.000 And I was like... That's not what confirmation bias means anyway.

02:02:40.000 There was a big change in my opinion after you said that on the show.

02:02:43.000 Oh, thank you.

02:02:44.000 Yeah, I've talked, I mean, my stuff on 2A has gone crazy because of the things you were saying.

02:02:48.000 I'll kind of second that.

02:02:49.000 I guess I'm an influencer now.

02:02:53.000 So I guess you call you like a powerful social presence.

02:02:57.000 You are very open to changing your mind.

02:02:58.000 From the time that I've known you, we'll talk about things and then I see in like two weeks you'll be like, yeah, you'll be Yeah.

02:03:03.000 I agree.

02:03:03.000 different views on things. If it makes sense. Yeah. And so you mentioned that your right to

02:03:08.000 bear arms shall not be infringed and the police don't care and they'll oppress your right in New

02:03:12.000 York City and I said you're right about that. And so then my opinion on 2A got pretty, hey,

02:03:16.000 okay, you know what? If Fallon gets out of prison, give him his gun. Yeah. The right shall not be

02:03:21.000 It doesn't say unless you're a felon doesn't say there's a lot of things It doesn't say but is it the argument that if they don't uphold a criminal law?

02:03:27.000 Like go take their guns away that then they have to leave the force so that just by being there They're part of a corrupt system making them criminals or is it only when they actually enforce?

02:03:37.000 There's so many laws that are complete crimes to enforce.

02:03:40.000 I can't even get like drug laws.

02:03:41.000 Oh Absolutely, you're on drugs.

02:03:42.000 Here's the thing, Eric Garner, when conservatives often point out that he wasn't choked, when he said, I can't breathe, I can't breathe, you know, and he died because of a heart condition, it wasn't that he was actually physically choked by the police.

02:03:52.000 Fine.

02:03:53.000 The point is, if there's a man selling cigarettes, and you feel comfortable walking up to him, putting your hands on him, and taking him away to a jail, you are the criminal. 0.83

02:04:04.000 That's absolutely, to me, insane.

02:04:07.000 Like, dude, the guy was, what do they call him, singles?

02:04:09.000 Lucis.

02:04:10.000 Lucis.

02:04:10.000 And he goes, officers, I'm not bothering, leave me alone.

02:04:13.000 He had it, you know, he wasn't fighting them.

02:04:15.000 He was resisting in the rest of the sense that he's like, I don't want to leave, get your hands off me.

02:04:18.000 He wasn't, he was huge.

02:04:20.000 He wasn't hitting them.

02:04:21.000 He wasn't putting them in danger.

02:04:23.000 The only person in that whole situation who went to jail was the guy who filmed it.

02:04:26.000 Right, right, right, right.

02:04:27.000 And that was crazy.

02:04:29.000 Why did he go to jail?

02:04:30.000 I mean, it just, to me, I don't want to get too conspiratorial, but it really sounded like there was retaliation.

02:04:35.000 That's what it sounded like.

02:04:35.000 I mean, you've seen, I'm sure you've talked about this before, but I'm sure you've seen similar things in Occupy, where the journalists who were covering it, the independent journalists, are the ones who are being targeted.

02:04:44.000 They're showing things that the cathedral doesn't want.

02:04:46.000 What the city of New York does, it's brilliant.

02:04:48.000 They issue press credentials from the NYPD.

02:04:51.000 Which is against the First Amendment.

02:04:52.000 Absolutely.

02:04:53.000 And then you can't get a job at many of these news outlets unless you have it.

02:04:56.000 and if you get it taken away you can't work there anymore because you can't report.

02:05:00.000 So what would happen is during the protest the cop would be like,

02:05:03.000 they'd walk up to a journalist and say, if you don't leave right now I take your pass.

02:05:06.000 And they'd go bye bye and they'd leave.

02:05:07.000 And then there was independent reporters like Lukachowski and me.

02:05:11.000 Oh absolutely.

02:05:12.000 I'm not talking to the audience, let me just think about it, you know.

02:05:14.000 Luke Rikowski, you guys know him, you love him.

02:05:16.000 He did his video where he filmed one of the most notorious cops who would go after the press and things like that as like a nature documentary.

02:05:23.000 You know, this guy in the wild, and he would zoom in on him.

02:05:26.000 And he saw it, and one day he was like, you're the guy who made that video about me on YouTube!

02:05:29.000 And it was like, I don't know what you're talking about.

02:05:31.000 But like, you know, the regular press couldn't do these things.

02:05:35.000 Right.

02:05:35.000 Because they'd lose their credentials.

02:05:37.000 And they're not interested because it doesn't further their narrative.

02:05:39.000 Dude, the ABC would like pull up, walk out of the van, say, okay, here's the park.

02:05:44.000 Turn around and say, we're here at the park.

02:05:45.000 Here's what happened.

02:05:46.000 Have a nice day.

02:05:47.000 Get back in the van and leave.

02:05:48.000 And that was journalism.

02:05:50.000 I was at Charlottesville while it was going down and we were at Outback Steakhouse with like some of the alt-right people and the surreal aspect of what was a block away from us and how it was being presented on the news was such a red pill moment that you're like looking out the window then you're looking at the screen and it's a complete disparity.

02:06:09.000 That was scary to me when I was in Sweden.

02:06:12.000 Oh yeah, of course, yeah.

02:06:13.000 When all of the journalists aligned at the same time to claim, all of a sudden just, they loved me, and then the moment we got off the highway and turned and went straight to Rinkeby, then they were like, uh-oh.

02:06:24.000 And then every news outlet was like, Tim Pool's a liar, a manipulator, at the same time I was like- What's Rinkeby?

02:06:29.000 It's a poor neighborhood, a Somali migrant neighborhood. 1.00

02:06:34.000 And so I was very much in line with their Potemkin village, the Green Party guy walks me around, everything's nice, we explain, like, you know what, these reports are just not true, they're exaggerated, and then I did my job.

02:06:46.000 I reached out to a bunch of other people, I talked to some crazy people, some regular people, some left, some right, and we went with this one local journalist, and then abruptly he was like, you wanna go?

02:06:54.000 Let's do it.

02:06:54.000 Pulls off the highway, and then all of a sudden it was like, uh-oh.

02:06:57.000 He's not supposed to be getting off that road, and then the media just aligns like that.

02:07:00.000 It's like the Truman Show.

02:07:01.000 Creepy.

02:07:02.000 It is like the Truman Show.

02:07:03.000 It was creepy, and we had people spying on us.

02:07:05.000 We had people lurking around our hotels.

02:07:07.000 We had to, like, leave.

02:07:08.000 Alright, I gotta read some more of these.

02:07:08.000 We got Elevate Fitness Dallas says, Tim, wish me happy birthday.

02:07:12.000 Happy birthday, Elevate Fitness Dallas.

02:07:14.000 Thanks for the super chat.

02:07:16.000 James asks, I'm not sure I understand this one.

02:07:18.000 He says, I love that when I came in, I see Michael Malice dressed like Clark Kent, and now at the end he is Superman.

02:07:24.000 I love him and I love you guys.

02:07:25.000 What is he talking about?

02:07:27.000 Maybe you are Superman to me.

02:07:28.000 You know what this is?

02:07:29.000 No, no, no, no.

02:07:31.000 Tim, you got trolled.

02:07:33.000 These are the April Fool's people. 1.00

02:07:35.000 Who get in the superchats, they make you to read nonsense, and then you look like a fool for reading this. 1.00

02:07:41.000 Screw you! 1.00

02:07:42.000 No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. 1.00

02:07:45.000 Because he's calling me a journalist.

02:07:46.000 He's saying I'm one of the bad guys because Clark Kent was a newspaperman.

02:07:49.000 This is his backdoor way of making fun of me.

02:07:51.000 He's complimenting you.

02:07:53.000 He's saying that in the beginning, he saw you as a regular guy, and by the end of the show, he realizes that you're a hero who's fighting the good fight.

02:07:59.000 That was what I thought.

02:08:00.000 Okay, that makes more sense. 0.97

02:08:01.000 Well, I still think you're not as bad as Trevor, but you're pretty terrible.

02:08:05.000 All right, we'll just read a couple more because my friends, I thank you all so much for the super chats.

02:08:09.000 We just have so many coming in.

02:08:12.000 All right, let's see.

02:08:14.000 Patrick says, what worries you more, cancel culture or compliance culture?

02:08:19.000 What's compliance culture?

02:08:20.000 I guess he's saying, you know, getting banned, or the people who just give in and do what they're told.

02:08:24.000 I don't know what he means by worse, but in terms of which is more a threat to me, I'm in no danger of complying with anything.

02:08:32.000 So it would be, I don't think these two things are super-bull at all.

02:08:36.000 I think they're very much compliance culture is cancel culture being implemented.

02:08:42.000 I gotta say real quick, we got some more Super Chats.

02:08:45.000 People, I think they're really digging your ideology.

02:08:48.000 They must be big fans of anarchy.

02:08:49.000 Okay.

02:08:49.000 Or anarchism.

02:08:50.000 They must really agree with your ideas about defunding police and police being criminals.

02:08:54.000 Because all of a sudden they're saying things like, we got CrystalMech, he says, I walked away for one hour and suddenly your guest turns into Superman.

02:09:01.000 This is what I get for walking away.

02:09:03.000 I mean, clearly your ideas are resonating with the audience to where they just view you as a hero.

02:09:08.000 Listen, it's been tough growing up for me, being this farm boy in the middle of Kansas, and now I get to be here in Springfield, Illinois, you know, with Tim Foole and all these other people, so it's very humbling.

02:09:22.000 All right, Official Jim says, You opened my eyes to politics, Tim.

02:09:24.000 How would I go about trying to learn and understand more?

02:09:27.000 Where should I start?

02:09:29.000 I don't know.

02:09:30.000 You can watch my show, and then watch other shows.

02:09:32.000 Watch Michael Malice's show.

02:09:34.000 Watch people like Jimmy Dore, because Jimmy will give you a more leftist perspective, but he's a real guy.

02:09:38.000 He's an honest guy.

02:09:39.000 A very red-pilled leftist.

02:09:40.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:09:42.000 And he hates war.

02:09:43.000 Absolutely.

02:09:44.000 That's my criterion.

02:09:46.000 Are you someone who, even if you're like, sometimes you have to have war, do you think this is really a very mixed blessing at the best of circumstances? 0.97

02:09:54.000 Or are you like, we gotta do it.

02:09:56.000 This is the big divide for me.

02:09:58.000 Tim, when you get up in the morning, what's your methodology of sourcing news?

02:10:01.000 What are your first few steps?

02:10:03.000 I just start reading a bunch of news.

02:10:05.000 Do you have specific places you go?

02:10:07.000 Bunch of different news outlets, Twitter.

02:10:09.000 So my Twitter feed is a collection of left and right and mainstream news sources.

02:10:13.000 And so I scroll through that.

02:10:14.000 As soon as I wake up, I'm like scrolling through all these stories.

02:10:16.000 There's a website that lets you, judging by your Twitter, what percent is right, left, and center.

02:10:21.000 I'm left.

02:10:22.000 You're left?

02:10:22.000 Mine was 30, 39, 41, and then 20% centrist.

02:10:23.000 But it says the news you interact with.

02:10:29.000 Which means things you're making fun of as well.

02:10:31.000 So here's the issue.

02:10:32.000 I use NewsGuard on purpose to make a point, and that means I'm often fact-checking these certified sources and avoiding many conservative sources because NewsGuard is biased.

02:10:42.000 So what ends up happening is, on this thing it says I'm interacting with more mainstream or left-leaning stories, but in reality it's just... Let me correct this.

02:10:52.000 It was ground news, as Tim Pool interacts with left-wing stories, but in reality just mainstream news sources.

02:10:58.000 So you think about what that really means.

02:10:59.000 Right, right.

02:10:59.000 Because I follow a lot of conservatives, and I tweet a lot at conservatives about a lot of things, or retweeted Ben Shapiro earlier.

02:11:05.000 But the stories I tweet only come from that checkmark, which is funny.

02:11:08.000 So NewsGuard, if you're listening, Take into consideration about what that means about your service.

02:11:13.000 The stories I interact with have to be certified by you, because I'm trying to make a point, and then it claims I'm left biased, and I have a blind spot for the right, it says.

02:11:20.000 Wow.

02:11:21.000 All right, one more super chat.

02:11:22.000 Garhunt says, Tim, I respectfully disagree with you creating a network of you.

02:11:26.000 What will work is for you to form a network with people like you.

02:11:29.000 Crowder, Rubin, Gadsad, Weinsteins.

02:11:31.000 That is how you win.

02:11:32.000 Bigly.

02:11:33.000 I'm not creating a network of me.

02:11:35.000 I'm creating a network with a bunch of different shows.

02:11:38.000 So I'm talking to comedians about helping them do a show.

02:11:42.000 There may be a comedian who is producing, you know, anti-woke stuff, or just comedy that's just not in the culture war at all.

02:11:48.000 Just funny jokes.

02:11:48.000 Or maybe it's offensive.

02:11:50.000 And we're going to give them an opportunity to make new content.

02:11:52.000 We're going to grow.

02:11:53.000 It's not going to be a network of me.

02:11:54.000 It's going to be original movies with nothing to do with me.

02:11:56.000 We're gonna make this like, you get an app and you open it and there's gonna be, you know, a show with a bunch of different people.

02:12:02.000 Maybe we'll do a Michael Malice comedy special?

02:12:04.000 I would love to see that.

02:12:05.000 Yeah.

02:12:06.000 Political comedy?

02:12:06.000 Something like that?

02:12:08.000 Yeah.

02:12:08.000 Have you done?

02:12:09.000 Do you do live comedy?

02:12:10.000 My first job, first trying to be creative, was doing stand-up.

02:12:13.000 This was a very long time ago.

02:12:15.000 And because I had a friend who killed himself and we basically, because we were so stressed about it, we made that night into a roast. 0.91

02:12:22.000 I thought to myself, if I can do stand-up and get people to laugh, anyone can make jokes about sex or bitches be texting, whatever. 1.00

02:12:29.000 If you can make people joke about things like suicide, then you're really talented. 0.88

02:12:32.000 What I learned, and this is why I quit after six months, the same set that kills one night will walk the room the next.

02:12:40.000 Right.

02:12:41.000 And you have no control over what lands and what doesn't.

02:12:44.000 And that was such a screw in my head so much I gave it up.

02:12:47.000 Well then, we'll see how this manifests.

02:12:51.000 But the idea is, if you're a member at TimCast.com, we're going to start producing a bunch of stuff.

02:12:55.000 We're probably going to have gaming content, gaming reviews.

02:12:58.000 We're probably going to have definitely the vlog stuff, but that'll be on YouTube as well.

02:13:01.000 The goal is to just have a bunch of different people involved, and yes, you will get access to all these shows.

02:13:06.000 The money that you are paying as a member of TimCast is going to be used to build culture.

02:13:10.000 That's my plan.

02:13:11.000 Part of it will be used Hopefully soon to start development on an open source project.

02:13:16.000 We'll see exactly how we can pull it off.

02:13:17.000 I think it's ambitious, but I'd like to do it.

02:13:19.000 That being said, my friends, smash the like button if you have not done that already.

02:13:22.000 Show your support for the show.

02:13:24.000 Subscribe!

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02:13:29.000 You can follow me on all social media platforms at TimCast.

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02:13:35.000 Make sure you go to TimCast.com because we're gonna have a bonus segment up around 11 p.m.

02:13:39.000 Yes, we all talked about some funny things today, some serious issues, and we talked about support.

02:13:42.000 I see and we do the show live Monday to Friday at 8 p.m. So thanks for hanging out Michael

02:13:46.000 Do you want to shout anything out? Yes, we all talked about some funny things today some serious issues and we talked

02:13:51.000 about support So it's important to support the underwear that supports

02:13:56.000 you And use promo code malice 20

02:14:05.000 They've got the dual pouch technology and you could support the underwear that supports me

02:14:09.000 Bridget Phetasy Dave Smith and people like Luis J Gomez who will you know won't make it in the when we come to the next

02:14:17.000 I've got to get them to send me a bunch of that stuff.

02:14:18.000 I have some for you.

02:14:19.000 I brought some.

02:14:20.000 Oh, wonderful.

02:14:21.000 I want a swag box.

02:14:24.000 SheathUnderwear.com And I gotta tell you in all seriousness, this is made by an Iraq War vet, and it's an independent businessman, so I'm glad, I love being able to promote a product made in America.

02:14:36.000 I was made in the Ukraine.

02:14:37.000 What does it say?

02:14:41.000 Yeah.

02:14:43.000 Designed in America. 0.98

02:14:45.000 And the thing is, if it's camo, it makes your junk even more invisible. 0.98

02:14:48.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:14:48.000 I think it protects you from sharks, right? 0.97

02:14:49.000 Maybe not that particular underwear.

02:14:51.000 I don't want to make any false rumors.

02:14:53.000 I was talking to him.

02:14:54.000 I'm like, I wonder if I'm going to be able to pull this off.

02:14:56.000 And you set me up perfectly.

02:14:58.000 Oh, in all seriousness, the Anarchist Handbook is going to be done in the next couple of weeks, and that'll be out, and I'm sure I can come back and talk about it.

02:15:06.000 You know, I would like to point out how cut you look.

02:15:08.000 Very ripped.

02:15:09.000 I like what you've done with the body.

02:15:11.000 Thank you, sir.

02:15:12.000 Very muscular.

02:15:13.000 For a 63-year-old, it's impressive.

02:15:14.000 Yeah, you're towing the line.

02:15:16.000 Adrenochrome! 0.99

02:15:18.000 No, no, no.

02:15:19.000 Just a clever myth.

02:15:20.000 All right.

02:15:21.000 Yeah, you guys can also follow me at IanCrossland.net, which is my website.

02:15:25.000 Not that Boy Scout nonsense!

02:15:28.000 I waited to buy.com for a few months after I started making YouTube videos and someone snagged it.

02:15:33.000 So don't wait.

02:15:34.000 Don't hesitate.

02:15:36.000 Or if you hate someone, buy their domain name and forward it.

02:15:39.000 I've done that trick several times.

02:15:41.000 Listen to the man.

02:15:42.000 I love it.

02:15:43.000 I love it.

02:15:43.000 The Superman.

02:15:44.000 Michael is the master troll and I love having him on.

02:15:46.000 I have two things to say.

02:15:47.000 I want to wish a happy birthday to my pal Brenda.

02:15:49.000 Her birthday is today, April Fool's Day.

02:15:52.000 Her dad must have been shocked when her mom was in the hospital.

02:15:54.000 He's like, no, I don't believe it.

02:15:55.000 And the second is that I figured out the mystery of what this term was that this hire liked so much about Michael Malice. 0.85

02:16:02.000 It was when Michael Malice explained to Lex Friedman what tits or GTF really means.

02:16:10.000 So there you go.

02:16:10.000 That sounded like Lex Luthor.

02:16:13.000 I'm more of a brainiac, please.

02:16:15.000 He doesn't laugh, though.

02:16:17.000 Lex Friedman.

02:16:17.000 That's true, he doesn't.

02:16:19.000 So, that solved that mystery.

02:16:20.000 I'm very happy that I could help.

02:16:22.000 I am Sour Patch Lids on Twitter, and mine's in Real Sour Patch Lids on Gab and Instagram.

02:16:28.000 Make sure you smash that like button before you go, and we will see you all in the exclusive members-only segment at TimCast.com at about 11.

02:16:36.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:16:37.000 We'll see you there.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 01, 2021

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