Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - The "Fourth Turning" Predicts Societal Collapse Then "New World Order" w- Ben Stewart

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:04.000 you we were told today there was supposed to be some militia

00:00:35.000 that was going to storm into DC and that they needed 5,000 National Guard

00:00:40.000 troops to protect the capital because these militia conspiracy individuals

00:00:45.000 believe that March 4th was the true inauguration day

00:00:49.000 Apparently, they believe that the United States is a corporation, and that this corporation started with the 20th Amendment, and it's just, it's nonsensical.

00:00:57.000 However, there has been a lot of talk about something called Strauss-Howe Generational Theory, and talk that we're entering the fourth turning, which basically predicts societal collapse, followed by, at least according to Business Insider, a New World Order, whatever that means.

00:01:13.000 So we're just gonna riff on this stuff.

00:01:16.000 Obviously, there was no militia storming DC, but yet they're still saying, we need National Guard to remain for two more months.

00:01:24.000 Something weird is happening, and I think it's safe to say we are definitely in some kind of crisis period, which may be, I think this would be the fourth turning, I guess?

00:01:32.000 Yeah, that would be the winter period.

00:01:34.000 The winter period.

00:01:35.000 We'll talk about that, but we are joined today by, I guess, a filmmaker, and you've done a ton of research into, say, DMT, Ben Stewart.

00:01:42.000 Yeah, Ben Joseph Stewart, benjosephstewart.com.

00:01:45.000 Filmmaker, started off as a musician that didn't do so well, so I decided to do the... Do some DMT.

00:01:51.000 Do some DMT and start making films, and here I am.

00:01:55.000 I just sneezed and showed up here.

00:01:56.000 I got lost and I figured, oh wow.

00:01:58.000 Some guy like pulled up on my parking lot and we were like, you know, Ian walked out and said, hey, you ever tried DMT?

00:02:03.000 And he was like, actually, and we're like, come on in!

00:02:05.000 Got it!

00:02:06.000 I'm actually in the fifth dimension right now.

00:02:07.000 Yeah, it's totally how it worked.

00:02:09.000 Let's talk about the fourth turning.

00:02:10.000 I will say, I saw your band Hyrosonic play and it was incredible.

00:02:14.000 So, don't give up.

00:02:15.000 Yeah, that was hot.

00:02:15.000 That was back in Brooklyn.

00:02:17.000 Really, really good.

00:02:18.000 Maybe you just didn't have the right marketing at the time, but I'd like to see you play again.

00:02:22.000 It was interesting, man.

00:02:23.000 That was 11 years we were together, and we started, like, a year after we started, we were on Lollapalooza.

00:02:29.000 Wow.

00:02:30.000 It was Jane's Addiction, Audioslave, A Perfect Circle.

00:02:35.000 Sounds like you were actually pretty successful with that.

00:02:37.000 Yeah, by the bands that we played with, you would imagine, and then you'd look at our bank account and be like, oh, you poor thing.

00:02:44.000 You're a garage band.

00:02:45.000 We were touring non-stop, and we did some really excellent shows, but it was just a strange time.

00:02:52.000 And in the middle of it, I started deciding to make films, because people really liked the lyrics, and they were like, what's the message about?

00:02:59.000 I was going to make a 15-minute film about the message of the band, and it turned into a two-hour documentary that had nothing to do with the band.

00:03:06.000 It was called Esoteric Agenda.

00:03:07.000 I just put it up online for free.

00:03:09.000 And people then asked for more.

00:03:12.000 So I began doing that and then eventually what kind of turned it into a career was Gaia.com.

00:03:18.000 They hand selected me to, they brought me into a whole series on psychedelics.

00:03:22.000 So all this crazy DMT stuff.

00:03:25.000 Now we're going to talk about, it all does kind of come together I guess.

00:03:29.000 You know, we normally like to do, like, here's some big news of the day, here's some cultural issue.

00:03:33.000 But I think, you know, we're gonna have, like, a bigger picture conversation about where this might all be going, generational theory.

00:03:39.000 But then there's also the... this is really interesting stuff, the studies into DMT, the extended state DMT stuff, where they're putting people on... you mentioned this earlier, putting people on DMT drips.

00:03:49.000 Yeah.

00:03:49.000 So, we'll get into all that stuff, but we're definitely going to talk about, like, the political space and where we're all headed.

00:03:54.000 Don't forget, we also got Sour Patch Loads president on the lens.

00:03:55.000 Yep, I'm here in the corner pushing all the buttons.

00:03:57.000 I'm stoked for this conversation, so we'll see how this goes.

00:03:59.000 Yeah, this should get weird and trippy.

00:04:01.000 Yes.

00:04:02.000 We'll do more of these episodes.

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00:04:27.000 We set this up because we might get banned in this great purge that's happening.

00:04:31.000 You may have heard that Right Side Broadcasting Network, they got suspended for simply filming Donald Trump speaking.

00:04:38.000 Well, the speech had fake news, they said, false information, so they straight up... I think the suspension is two weeks.

00:04:44.000 They are taking out news organizations.

00:04:46.000 RSBN did not put out an opinion.

00:04:48.000 So things are getting absolutely crazy.

00:04:50.000 I mean, it was a wild and crazy day for censorship today.

00:04:52.000 A lot of people think that Dr. Seuss stuff is silly, but they're now... eBay's banning people from even selling their existing Dr. Seuss books.

00:05:01.000 So we are definitely in some kind of crisis.

00:05:03.000 But yeah, like, if you own a Dr. Seuss book and you're like, I'm gonna sell it to Ian, and I put it up on eBay and Ian wants to buy it, they're saying, no, it's hate speech, it's offensive, you can't have it.

00:05:10.000 They're gonna drive the price of those way up. 0.99

00:05:12.000 They're already up, like, 20 grand.

00:05:13.000 It's crazy.

00:05:13.000 Wow.

00:05:14.000 So now you gotta go, like, hunt people down and try and get one, like, find them and, like, go on, yeah, black market quests.

00:05:19.000 But this is a really good example of how insane everything is getting.

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00:05:25.000 Let me start by showing you this article.

00:05:27.000 And I do this with these articles specifically because I want to make sure everybody realizes we're not just pulling these things, you know, out of thin air.

00:05:36.000 These are conversations that actually happen.

00:05:38.000 These are articles that actually exist, and these are ideas that we did not come up with.

00:05:41.000 Business Insider says a book published nearly 25 years ago predicted America would hit a great crisis, climaxing around 2020.

00:05:48.000 And that up next is a Millennial vs. Boomer standoff that will usher in a new world order. 0.76

00:05:56.000 They say America sees a turning every 20 years as one generation displaces another, and the dynamic between one particular generation entering elderhood and another entering young adulthood creates a crisis every 80 years, according to a theory prophesized in Neil Howe and William Strauss's The Fourth Turning.

00:06:14.000 The authors wrote the next crisis era would start around 2005 and climax around 2020, and would involve millennials and boomers fighting over the shape of the world to come.

00:06:23.000 There are some similarities between recent events and the book's predictions.

00:06:27.000 The 2008 financial crisis can be seen as the catalyst they mentioned, and in 2020, and in early 2021, unrest has shaken the economy, politics, and the economy.

00:06:38.000 It's unclear whether the fourth turning is how Enstrasse characterized it is really happening right now, but the parallels are certainly eye-catching.

00:06:46.000 There's also some other theories.

00:06:48.000 There's also Thucydides' trap, which suggests that whenever an economic power is about to displace the principal superpower, war breaks out.

00:06:56.000 In the past 16 major instances, 12 times there has been very serious war.

00:07:02.000 Many fear that we are now entering this period with China. 0.83

00:07:06.000 I guess the bigger question is, if these academics predicted this was going to be the fourth turning, and we are going to enter in some catastrophic period, if people can see Thucydides' trap, are there efforts to prevent it?

00:07:18.000 And before we go into the bigger discussion, I'll just point out, they say that the last 80-year period started just after World War II, right?

00:07:27.000 Actually, why don't you explain what this means?

00:07:30.000 Well, the whole thing, you know, so the fourth turning is the fourth season, that's the winter crisis.

00:07:35.000 And, you know, so they call it a saeculum, which means a long life.

00:07:39.000 This goes actually all the way back to the Etruscans prior to the Romans.

00:07:44.000 But it starts, let's just say it starts in the spring with a high, and then it goes into an awakening, which would be the summer, and then the fall is called the unraveling, and then the winter is the crisis period, and it keeps turning.

00:07:58.000 I heard a really good guy actually interviewing Neil Howe, I think it was, and he said, like, you know, if history doesn't repeat, it surely rhymes, because every single time these crisis periods come back around, they're not exactly the same, but they resemble each other, and there's core tenets to them that resemble one another.

00:08:16.000 And yeah, they surely said, like, the book came out in 97.

00:08:21.000 They said somewhere around 2005, give or take a couple years, there's gonna be an inciting incident.

00:08:27.000 And if it comes later, it'll probably come at around 2008, right when two-thirds of the boomer generation, I think it was, would be eligible for their social security.

00:08:37.000 So that was the housing collapse right there.

00:08:39.000 And that would be an economic inciting incident that would lead into, and I wrote some things down, we can get to it later, but In chapter six of the book, The Fourth Turning, there's eerie, very eerie kinds of predictions that go right into what you could call now the winter period, the crisis period.

00:08:57.000 And then Game of Thrones, they were like, winter is coming.

00:08:59.000 The long winter.

00:09:00.000 But does that mean we're through the worst of it?

00:09:03.000 We're on our way out towards this beautiful, utopian springtime?

00:09:08.000 It's very interesting because in the book they said it won't be any shorter than 15 years, it won't be any longer than 20 years if history repeats in the same way.

00:09:20.000 It's never gone any longer than 20 years.

00:09:23.000 Because I think Neil Howe works in DC now and he advises people and he said somewhere around 2028 it should be concluded and that's when the next high will start.

00:09:35.000 And if you think about it, the crisis is like a crunching period and anytime you come out of a crunch it feels like a high.

00:09:41.000 There's a big restructuring.

00:09:43.000 So I've heard 2025 is the year to look at.

00:09:46.000 So then when did the last springtime start?

00:09:50.000 The last springtime would have been, man, just after 1945.

00:09:55.000 I mean, that seems like a pretty definitive end to the crisis period.

00:10:00.000 That means the crisis period reached its end with mass bloodshed and 76 million dead.

00:10:06.000 When was the New Deal?

00:10:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:07.000 Because apparently they also mention that in the book, the New Deal.

00:10:11.000 Because they don't just talk about war, but for some reason when you go back 80-90 years, you look at World War II, Great Depression, 80-90 years before that, give or take some, Civil War before that, the last winter was the Revolution before that.

00:10:26.000 Because they're talking mainly Anglo-Saxon history.

00:10:29.000 The Glorious Revolution in England.

00:10:32.000 And so it lines up.

00:10:33.000 When you look at it, it definitely lines up.

00:10:35.000 There's other authors who popped onto that.

00:10:37.000 1933.

00:10:38.000 New Deal.

00:10:39.000 Okay.

00:10:39.000 And the Glorious Revolution in England was like when they made Prince or King John sign the Magna Carta?

00:10:44.000 Is that what that was?

00:10:45.000 Was that it?

00:10:46.000 Sometime in the 1600s, I think.

00:10:48.000 Oh, that was 1200.

00:10:49.000 OK, never mind.

00:10:50.000 That was four turnings before.

00:10:52.000 Yeah.

00:10:53.000 I've noticed that in 2028, this year, you're saying might be the new awake or not the awakening, but the high.

00:10:59.000 The high is when graphene is purported to become peak, which means that society has completely Interesting.

00:11:07.000 Like we're instead of using steel, we're now using graphene for buildings, touchscreens, battery power, electricity,

00:11:07.000 Yeah, there's a lot of predictions.

00:11:13.000 Interesting. Yeah, there's a lot of predictions.

00:11:13.000 all that.

00:11:15.000 Elon Musk says 2023 we should be able to expect super intelligent AI.

00:11:21.000 I mean, these are all, you know, speculations.

00:11:24.000 Do you want me to just read just like two paragraphs of what they predicted would happen in this period?

00:11:30.000 Yeah.

00:11:31.000 So they said, around 2005, a financial event will likely spark the coming crisis.

00:11:31.000 Okay.

00:11:37.000 A succession will be spoken of heavily.

00:11:40.000 Secession?

00:11:41.000 I'm sorry, secession.

00:11:43.000 Like state seceding from the union.

00:11:47.000 And they said it could be something having to do with like taxes and IRS.

00:11:51.000 But was it, they said that was going to happen in 2005?

00:11:53.000 No, no, they said starting, starting in 2005.

00:11:56.000 So they're saying there will be a financial event is usually what sparks these things.

00:12:02.000 And then after that, they're talking about during the entire crisis period, you'll see these things come up.

00:12:07.000 So, secession will be spoken of heavily.

00:12:10.000 A potential terrorist group may blow up an aircraft and claim to have portable weapons of mass destruction or nuclear weapons.

00:12:17.000 The U.S.

00:12:18.000 will potentially strike the responsible country preemptively.

00:12:23.000 I don't know what that means because, you know, they already attacked.

00:12:28.000 Wow!

00:12:28.000 Some will blame the president for concocting the attack for political purposes.

00:12:33.000 Militia groups will rise up against urban gangs, cyber attacks.

00:12:39.000 CDC may announce the spread of a new communicable virus.

00:12:43.000 This is all in Chapter 6.

00:12:44.000 I'm not making this up.

00:12:45.000 Wow.

00:12:46.000 A lot is happening.

00:12:47.000 You know, a new communicable virus that will reach densely populated areas and kill some.

00:12:53.000 I'm trying to use as many verbatim words as I can.

00:12:55.000 Mandatory quarantine will happen.

00:12:58.000 President will order National Guard into major cities.

00:13:02.000 Again, urban gangs battling suburban militias.

00:13:05.000 And calls mount for the President to declare martial law.

00:13:09.000 Insurrection will... I know they said that several times in Chapter 6.

00:13:16.000 I just didn't get the exact sentence.

00:13:18.000 But they mentioned insurrection several times.

00:13:21.000 And all events will escalate.

00:13:25.000 The inciting incident will set off a chain reaction of other events.

00:13:29.000 And until the climax, there will be nothing that brings down the intensity.

00:13:33.000 So like World War II, when World War II officially ended, boom, springtime next. 0.95

00:13:38.000 So that means 2027 is going to be brutal.

00:13:42.000 It's going to be absolutely chaos.

00:13:44.000 I mean, the theory is maybe it was 9-11 that sparked this, and that was the aircraft thing

00:13:49.000 that they actually mentioned.

00:13:50.000 And now this is the brutal ending to... Oh, and they wrote when they wrote this when in 1997?

00:13:55.000 It was published in 97, which means I think they started writing it in 88 with a different idea.

00:14:01.000 So wait, wait, wait, wait, they wrote and they published it way before 9-11 and said, someone get an aircraft.

00:14:07.000 That's crazy.

00:14:08.000 Yeah, they also mentioned, and this is just in the book, I did a podcast on Kyle Kingsbury not too long ago, and I turned him on to the book, and then he hit me up.

00:14:18.000 I didn't even hear this part.

00:14:19.000 He was like, in the very first chapter, they mentioned Bill Gates, eugenics, and depopulation in the same sentence in 97.

00:14:29.000 What?

00:14:30.000 Yeah, or in the same paragraph.

00:14:32.000 It's one of those two, and I didn't even catch that.

00:14:35.000 So they mentioned him a lot.

00:14:36.000 They mentioned Al Gore a lot.

00:14:39.000 And so they they also give like what you would call a constellation like people born under certain like we would all be Millennials I imagine and so we're born during the unraveling and we've only known unraveling in crisis.

00:14:52.000 I think I think he might be a Xennial Yeah, Generation Y, I was told growing up.

00:14:58.000 No, Generation... Not quite X. Like, tail end of Generation X.

00:15:02.000 79 was the year.

00:15:03.000 Yeah, so that would be tail end of that.

00:15:04.000 There was no crisis when I was a kid.

00:15:06.000 It was beautiful roses.

00:15:07.000 It was awesome.

00:15:08.000 So you would be considered a nomad, and we'd be considered heroes.

00:15:13.000 How old are you?

00:15:14.000 I'm 38.

00:15:15.000 So I was, like, right at the beginning of it.

00:15:17.000 And then people born in a crisis period are called artists.

00:15:22.000 And then people born during a high are called prophets.

00:15:25.000 And so they go into a lot of detail as to why they're named that.

00:15:30.000 And so they talk about the boomers, their role in this crisis, Generation X in this crisis. 0.65

00:15:36.000 So they predicted insurrection.

00:15:39.000 They predicted militias.

00:15:41.000 Portable weapons, crashing a plane... A lot of this stuff, you know, I will say, we'd have to go into the book and... I'll tell you this, I didn't read the book.

00:15:49.000 Maybe they say, here's a hundred things that we think will happen, and then you just cherry-pick the seven that are relevant to us and go, aha!

00:15:54.000 That proves them right!

00:15:56.000 Not really.

00:15:57.000 So is it just like they threw a bunch of darts at the wall and said, we'll see what happens, and then we're cherry-picking?

00:16:01.000 I'll tell you exactly what it is, because I was listening to it this morning.

00:16:05.000 Everything I said, I didn't really leave out anything.

00:16:10.000 If I might have left out anything, it would have been one thing.

00:16:13.000 And this is all in, like, two paragraphs.

00:16:16.000 And so, what they said was, right afterwards, they were like, likely none of these things will actually happen in this way, but the underlying tone will, things like this will happen.

00:16:29.000 This will be the nature of things to happen.

00:16:31.000 And so there wasn't much other than this.

00:16:34.000 This was like two paragraphs.

00:16:36.000 I just distilled it down a little bit.

00:16:39.000 And then they went on to say, like, in a crisis period, if tensions keep rising and there is any spark of violence, it will likely lead to war.

00:16:48.000 So I'm trying to use their words as much as possible.

00:16:51.000 If it does lead to war, it's likely to end in total war.

00:16:55.000 The enemy rendered nil, and afterwards one society dies, a new one is born, and basically there's no way to stop a winter period from coming.

00:17:06.000 But do they think that the United States is going to enter a new spring?

00:17:12.000 Or in that context, what if China crushes the United States and destroys our society? 0.98

00:17:16.000 In that sense, what they would say, because they do say that it is possible for the United States to be the loser in this, and they're really talking mainly eccentric around the U.S.

00:17:27.000 So when they do talk about this, they say that no matter what, the spring is also coming.

00:17:33.000 So, spring will definitely come, but that's not really saying much for the losing side.

00:17:39.000 You know what's crazy?

00:17:40.000 Is that you go back 80 years, what do you got?

00:17:42.000 The end of World War II.

00:17:43.000 You go back 80 years before that, what do you got?

00:17:46.000 End of Civil War.

00:17:47.000 You go back 80 years before that, what do you got?

00:17:49.000 The Revolution.

00:17:49.000 End of the Revolution.

00:17:50.000 These are all wars. 0.97

00:17:51.000 Crazy, dude.

00:17:52.000 And what they say is every single time, if there's war, the most powerful weapons of war are definitely used.

00:17:59.000 There's no way around it.

00:18:00.000 So you look back, you know, the atomic bomb at the end of World War II.

00:18:05.000 Before that, what was the most powerful thing?

00:18:06.000 The Gatling gun?

00:18:07.000 No, the Gatling gun, I think, was 1873, maybe?

00:18:10.000 Okay.

00:18:11.000 Am I gun history good?

00:18:12.000 No, probably not.

00:18:13.000 But they were using percussion revolvers I think they were, man, I don't know a whole lot about guns, but I'm sure a lot of people are like, I'm surprised you know those things existed.

00:18:21.000 They had these, I'm pretty sure they had percussion revolvers.

00:18:24.000 Basically, you would load the charge, like, you know, what is it called?

00:18:28.000 Muzzle load?

00:18:29.000 But it's like, you'd pour into the side of the revolver, and then you put a percussion cap on the back.

00:18:34.000 And then there were a couple different models.

00:18:37.000 Really amazing technology for the time, I'd say.

00:18:39.000 There was one where it had two triggers.

00:18:41.000 You pull one to rotate and pull the hammer, and the other to fire the hammer.

00:18:45.000 And, uh, they're not particularly convenient, but it was like, it was, uh, I think it was the Lon- London Armory?

00:18:52.000 Was it London Arms Company?

00:18:54.000 I don't know a whole lot about this stuff.

00:18:55.000 I should learn my gun history.

00:18:56.000 And, uh, they were selling to the Confeder- I think they were selling to the Confederates.

00:19:00.000 And so they were giving them these percussion rifles.

00:19:02.000 So that was, like, really revolutionary tech at the time.

00:19:04.000 That you could carry around this loaded, you know, I think they had, what, eight shots, maybe?

00:19:09.000 And so, coming from the muzzle-loaded era of just like, you know, stuffing the ball through the muzzle and then firing and then doing it again, all of a sudden these guys had small arms where they could go boom, boom, boom.

00:19:20.000 So that was legitimate technology.

00:19:22.000 So what do you think it is today?

00:19:24.000 Is it even weaponry like explosives?

00:19:27.000 So this is what I've been talking about when it comes to this concept of like civil war and all that, is no, it's mind control.

00:19:33.000 It is absolute mind control.

00:19:36.000 When the easiest way to understand that we are all being mind-controlled is first, when people... Okay, let me tell you something.

00:19:45.000 I talk to people about persuasion techniques.

00:19:47.000 I used to do non-profit fundraising.

00:19:49.000 Literally walking up to strangers on the street and being like, I need you to give me $100 right now.

00:19:53.000 And I could make people sign over credit cards.

00:19:55.000 It's really amazing when you consider there's a job where someone's standing in the street, greets a stranger, and then says, give me your credit card information right now and you will get nothing in return.

00:20:06.000 That is the fundraiser's job when they do the street canvassing.

00:20:08.000 What you're doing is you're selling them an idea.

00:20:10.000 So it takes real persuasion and skills.

00:20:12.000 I always tell people, you are not invincible.

00:20:15.000 No one is.

00:20:16.000 Everyone can be controlled and manipulated.

00:20:18.000 And you know what everyone says?

00:20:21.000 Not me so here's what I do whenever I explain to people I'll say I can make you say something and they'll say no you can't I can make you say something you don't even realize it I can make you say yeah, but not me want to bet and they'll be like what I'm not I won't say that And then I'll wait a minute or two and then I'll be like,

00:20:38.000 let me explain to you how mind control manipulation works.

00:20:40.000 I'll break down the basics of it and they'll go, yeah, but not me.

00:20:44.000 And I'll go, you owe me 10 bucks.

00:20:45.000 I made you say that.

00:20:47.000 It's not so much that I made you, but I knew the sequence of events to get you to say it.

00:20:50.000 Considering that, I always tell people, if mind control, mental manipulation wasn't a thing,

00:20:56.000 Coca-Cola would not be spending billions of dollars on these commercials and billboards and research.

00:21:01.000 You would not have social media companies selling your data to predict your behavior.

00:21:05.000 They want to know what makes you do things and why, so they can exploit you for resources.

00:21:10.000 It sounds a bit nefarious.

00:21:11.000 You can break it down to, the guy at Coke wants to make 10 more dollars, and he's gonna do whatever he can to figure out how to get you to buy another Coke.

00:21:18.000 It's called marketing.

00:21:19.000 But now you have this era where it's been so incredibly refined that big tech companies, they know what you think, they know why you're thinking it, they know what they want you to think, and they are absolutely stripping away the individuality through these networks.

00:21:34.000 What's happening now is, whether intentionally or not, we cannot go outside, in big cities for the most part, mostly in blue areas.

00:21:42.000 Can't go to bars, can't go to restaurants, gotta wear a mask.

00:21:44.000 Hard to talk when you're wearing a mask.

00:21:46.000 Hard to read someone's lips.

00:21:47.000 A lot of people don't realize this, but when we talk to each other, we are reading lips.

00:21:51.000 So there's a bunch of research showing how you can change the sound, but the lips will still make people hear a different word.

00:21:57.000 When you're in a bar and someone's talking, you will hear the sound and the movements of their mouth and go, I know what they're saying.

00:22:03.000 Take away the ability to see their mouth and now you're going to be more confused.

00:22:07.000 Very, very difficult to communicate ideas during this lockdown.

00:22:11.000 Then you go on social media and they say, you can't talk about this, this, this, this, or this.

00:22:15.000 You can't say that.

00:22:16.000 Donald Trump's speech, gone, outright.

00:22:18.000 Right side broadcasting network, you're banned for two weeks for even showing the president saying it.

00:22:22.000 Ideas are being restricted.

00:22:24.000 This is the greatest weapon we've ever seen.

00:22:27.000 Imagine if, during the Civil War, a guy showed up to the Confederate and said, I will win you this war without you firing a single shot.

00:22:36.000 Will you buy this weapon?

00:22:37.000 And they say, what is it?

00:22:38.000 And they would say, the printing press or the ability to spread propaganda in a guaranteed manner.

00:22:43.000 What if I told you that the people of the North could only read what we made them read?

00:22:49.000 We could tell them that we could have them vote for insane things that would destroy their own country.

00:22:55.000 We can have them vote for politicians that would harm them.

00:22:58.000 We can trick them into believing that our soldiers are in different areas.

00:23:02.000 You control what they think and you need not fire a single shot.

00:23:05.000 You could march into DC and never have to fight anyone and they will smile and celebrate as you do it.

00:23:12.000 That's what's happening with big tech and all this manipulation.

00:23:15.000 Who needs a nuclear bomb? 0.98

00:23:16.000 What's that gonna do?

00:23:17.000 Scare and harm people?

00:23:19.000 In today's day and age, why bother forcing someone through violence when you can simply tell them to do it and they will?

00:23:30.000 Why not be violent if you can?

00:23:31.000 I guess that's up to these psychopaths, is what they're thinking.

00:23:34.000 And I've listened to Putin talk about weapons of war and said that all this defense against intercontinental ballistic missiles has become null now.

00:23:40.000 You can fire, like, orbital strike from... And he was very vague about what kind of weapons they have.

00:23:45.000 Yeah, he was like, they can't stop it.

00:23:45.000 Rods from God.

00:23:47.000 The United States can't stop our weapons.

00:23:49.000 You guys know what rods from God are?

00:23:51.000 I heard about that.

00:23:52.000 Tungsten.

00:23:52.000 Hypothetical tungsten rods floating in orbit that they just release and then gravity pulls it down and then...

00:23:59.000 Interesting.

00:24:00.000 I didn't know it was that.

00:24:02.000 I thought it had more to do with satellites.

00:24:04.000 Well yeah, a satellite would be holding a tungsten rod and just release it.

00:24:07.000 And then it would just fall.

00:24:08.000 I'm also concerned with drone dogs.

00:24:10.000 Like we were talking about drone dogs before.

00:24:12.000 Like drone weapons.

00:24:13.000 You know, like nuclear bombs attached to a drone that can fly through a window.

00:24:18.000 Let's get into that, but I do want to talk a little bit more about Strauss-Howe, and then I do want to talk about the police state, the cyber dogs they got in New York.

00:24:27.000 So the Strauss-Howe generational theory, when does it start?

00:24:32.000 Was there something before the Revolutionary War?

00:24:34.000 Or are they just basically saying, hey, we had a revolution, 80 years later, a civil war, 80 years later, World War II, probably another thing's going to happen.

00:24:41.000 Or was there something we just don't talk about before that?

00:24:45.000 Yeah, you know, so in the book, they're not really clear.

00:24:48.000 The earliest crisis period that I think they mention is the Glorious Revolution, though they do go back into Roman history and they say that the term saeculum means a long life, because by the way, you know, anyone who's entering this crisis period wasn't around in the last crisis.

00:25:06.000 So, it's usually people are dead, they're not around enough to even know what the pattern means, so history repeating itself, they don't quite get it.

00:25:15.000 But it goes back to the Glorious Revolution, like I said, in England.

00:25:20.000 Before that, they don't really get much into this period, so it seems like...

00:25:25.000 They're talking Anglo-Saxon American history, but they do mention, and this is where my understanding breaks down, is other countries going through their own cycles.

00:25:34.000 And they said, if two countries, this was also part of chapter six, if anyone wants to go in there and check it out, of the fourth turning.

00:25:41.000 If two countries reach their crisis period at the same exact time, usually that's when it will definitely end in war, or a lot more likely to end in war, if two periods or two major powers specifically are in crisis at the same time.

00:25:57.000 But it seems like, well, we're facing two potential threats, China, but also civil war.

00:26:03.000 And so, if we look internally, we have two tribal factions.

00:26:07.000 You have the populist right, and then you have the establishment.

00:26:11.000 The populist left tends to support the establishment.

00:26:14.000 Well, they'll rag on Joe Biden, but they'll throw their weight behind him, so, you know, you may as well have that.

00:26:14.000 Tends to.

00:26:19.000 Then you have disaffected, moderate individuals like me.

00:26:21.000 I throw my weight behind Trump, for instance.

00:26:23.000 To a certain degree, voted for the guy, supported him in some endeavors, but I'm fairly critical, just like the populist left is critical of the Democrats, but also throw their weight behind him.

00:26:32.000 It seems like because of Facebook's dominance, Twitter, the internal war being fought right now does include low-tier violence and mass protests and riots, as well as many, you know, these individuals who stormed the Capitol.

00:26:46.000 So there is violence, but it seems like the bigger fight is just the fact that lines of communication are completely controlled right now by the left tribe, which would say to me that by 2028, the populist right tribe will be non-existent.

00:27:00.000 If that's the end of the major climax, if they're talking about insurrection and violence and talk of secession, it sounds like we are entering another Civil War period.

00:27:10.000 Texas is already—they got legislation pushed forward that will allow the state to vote for secession.

00:27:16.000 And the Texas GOP is supporting the bill.

00:27:19.000 I support the idea that people should be allowed to vote for things they want.

00:27:21.000 Will they actually be able to pull it off?

00:27:23.000 I don't know.

00:27:24.000 But if Joe Biden, who is pushing this very, very heavy gun control stuff, That's the easiest way to look at how Joe Biden's policy demands do not fly at all with red states, and some blue states to a certain degree.

00:27:38.000 What I mean by this is the gun control measures he proposes are very good for blue cities.

00:27:44.000 The people who live there, they want them, they like them, they don't want guns, and they live in really close proximity with cops everywhere.

00:27:51.000 So for them, they get it.

00:27:53.000 But Joe Biden wants to have this gun control even in red states nationwide.

00:27:57.000 So what's happening now is the ideological divide between how someone wants to live is so they're so diametrically opposed that when Joe Biden is like, I'm going to pass laws that benefit cities.

00:28:08.000 You know, to hell with everybody else.

00:28:10.000 You end up with talk of, right now we have many counties who want us to secede from those states to go to red states.

00:28:15.000 But sooner or later, we're gonna see more than just murmurs.

00:28:18.000 We're in 2021.

00:28:20.000 If the climax is supposed to be... We're in the climax, but if the end is supposed to be 2028, I don't think it's fair to call the climax right now.

00:28:28.000 Because if this is going to keep escalating until it finally goes off the cliff and just stops and then restarts, then the climax is going to be 2027, December 31st.

00:28:35.000 But I'll tell you, I think September 11th was the inciting incident, and we're in year 20 right now.

00:28:40.000 I don't know.

00:28:41.000 If you're talking about airplanes, I mean... The financial crisis was way, way, way worse.

00:28:46.000 Now, we can talk in terms of global damage and societal change.

00:28:51.000 The economic collapse, it sparked Occupy Wall Street.

00:28:55.000 It created years of mass protests.

00:28:58.000 It led to the rise of people like Trump and Bernie Sanders.

00:29:01.000 So the reason we get someone like Trump, a lot of the people who supported Trump were Occupy supporters.

00:29:07.000 Now I get it.

00:29:07.000 9-11 was a nightmarish tragedy.

00:29:09.000 It birthed the Patriot Act, which is basically the martial law part of this.

00:29:13.000 Yeah, but the Patriot Act was, if anything, people didn't care.

00:29:18.000 A lot cared.

00:29:19.000 Sure, sure, listen, some activists cared, but for the most part, it didn't impact regular people.

00:29:24.000 The mortgage-backed security crisis, the financial crisis, everything that followed brought people to zero, and people were desperate, they were angry, and what did they see?

00:29:33.000 The banks get bailed out.

00:29:35.000 So what happens then is you go to Occupy Wall Street.

00:29:38.000 You had left and right basically screaming, F the establishment.

00:29:41.000 Well, try as they might, and they succeeded, they kept the left and the right divided on this issue.

00:29:47.000 When the young leftists came in to Zuccotti Park, they drove away the libertarian and the conservative ideas that were there and dominated with far-left populist ideas.

00:29:55.000 You then move forward and you have the rise of Bernie Sanders.

00:29:58.000 The establishment clearly did not want Bernie Sanders to have any power.

00:30:02.000 But they seem to have been taken by surprise at the rise of this left populist movement.

00:30:07.000 And Hillary was furious. 0.96

00:30:09.000 And Bernie was rivaling her.

00:30:10.000 She was supposed to win.

00:30:11.000 Bernie wasn't supposed to get close.

00:30:12.000 They cheated.

00:30:13.000 They were submitting, you know, one example is they gave the questions to Hillary so she would know what they were going to ask her and could prepare beforehand.

00:30:20.000 The whole thing seemed to be dirty.

00:30:22.000 And Bernie Sanders supporters believed it.

00:30:23.000 But you also got many people who saw the populist message from Trump.

00:30:27.000 The interesting thing about the 2015-2016 presidential cycle was that Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump had many of the same core policies.

00:30:35.000 Bernie Sanders is on record speaking with Vox.com saying open borders is a Koch brothers right-wing proposal.

00:30:41.000 You had people I met I met three guys in Anaheim at a Trump rally who said they were originally Bernie Sanders supporters.

00:30:47.000 They flipped for Trump when Hillary won. 0.96

00:30:49.000 Why?

00:30:50.000 They said Bernie Sanders is a guy whose job has been to be a politician, and he's talking about these free trade agreements, he's talking about union workers.

00:30:58.000 I like these ideas.

00:30:59.000 He's a little too far left for me, but he seems genuine and way better than the establishment.

00:31:04.000 When Hillary Clinton basically took it from Bernie, they said, well, the only other guy talking about these free trade agreements and bringing our jobs back is Trump.

00:31:12.000 So they flipped for Trump.

00:31:13.000 Two different elements of the populist revolt, which started primarily because of the economic collapse and how it destroyed the lives of many people.

00:31:23.000 Now you have two things to consider.

00:31:24.000 For one, boomers' lives were destroyed and they got angry.

00:31:27.000 So they said, Bernie or Trump.

00:31:29.000 You then had millennials, who are now entering a job market, competing with boomers for entry-level jobs.

00:31:35.000 Now you have Gen Z, who literally entered the market after that, where there were no jobs! 0.99

00:31:40.000 And so they're all basically becoming socialists.

00:31:42.000 Or I should say, they're very socialistic, albeit there is a slight push towards some conservatism.

00:31:49.000 But it's no surprise that you see so many socialist youth when they're like, by the time I was old enough to get a job, what scraps were left were taken up by millennials. 0.93

00:32:00.000 The millennials are like, I did everything I was told to, and then when I tried to get a job, all I could go was entry-level garbage. 1.00

00:32:05.000 I could barely pay off my student loans.

00:32:07.000 The system isn't working.

00:32:08.000 When you take a look at the M1 money stock, what do you see?

00:32:11.000 Up until 2008, there's a slow and steady increase.

00:32:15.000 At 2008, it sharply increases.

00:32:17.000 And then here, in 2021, I'm sorry, in 2020, it shoots straight up.

00:32:22.000 Now they say it's because they changed the reporting metric for it.

00:32:25.000 However, before they changed the reporting metric, the spike had already begun.

00:32:30.000 So if anything, it seems like they changed the reporting metric because they needed to mask it to some capacity.

00:32:35.000 So in my view, 2008 was this major economic catalyst, which sparked this populist uprising, which leads to Donald Trump, which leads to now claims of Democrats saying an insurrection, the culture war and the clashes and everything around it are all merging into one.

00:32:48.000 And it's coming to a point where we just had federal charges for Antifa dropped in Portland.

00:32:53.000 Yet they're going after some befuddled granny who walked into the Capitol building when the cops opened the door for her. 1.00

00:32:59.000 Republicans and people on the tribal right can see that there's a double standard, and they're being treated like second-class citizens.

00:33:04.000 That Antifa, for over a year, can burn down entire cities, and the Vice President, now the Vice President, literally can fundraise on their behalf, and it is accepted.

00:33:15.000 But you get a video of the cops opening the door at the Capitol and saying, well, I don't agree with it, but I agree with your right to protest and welcoming them all in.

00:33:22.000 And these people walk in smiling, taking selfies, respecting the velvet ropes, smiling and taking pictures with cops.

00:33:28.000 And now these people are facing serious charges and they're being called insurrectionists and lawyers won't even represent them.

00:33:34.000 Now we're seeing the wave of censorship that's escalating.

00:33:37.000 The conflict has only gotten worse.

00:33:39.000 Both sides are ready to just slam into each other.

00:33:41.000 And I think it's going to get bad.

00:33:43.000 I think the 2008 thing makes a little bit more sense, mainly because there's something about the winter crisis period that they mentioned.

00:33:52.000 So instead of just looking at the external, like what are the events and things like that, take a look at people's behavior.

00:33:59.000 Because they do say sparks, inciting events, if it happens in a different turning, like in the spring or the summer or the fall, we behave differently.

00:34:10.000 And so in 2001, you didn't see as many people amassing.

00:34:15.000 So they say in a high period, which is right after a crisis, the number one thing that sparks create is synergy.

00:34:22.000 It's actually synergy.

00:34:24.000 In an awakening, which you go back and look at the hippie generation, it's argument.

00:34:29.000 That's the number one thing sparks do.

00:34:32.000 And then during an unraveling, it's anxiety.

00:34:35.000 But during a winter period, it's action.

00:34:38.000 And you see a lot more action come the 2008, like, you know, from that entering to the Occupy, and then everything from there, people, and even just the ease of social media, getting together, bringing your ideas together.

00:34:52.000 It seems like people are a lot more action-oriented, and they do say that, you know, the new presidents that come in during this period We'll have a, you know, no BS, like straight to the point, let's get down to business kind of like action orientation.

00:35:07.000 The one thing they do say, which I noticed because I was listening to a bunch of podcasts on January 6th, when the thing happened at the Capitol, and they were in this book, they say that these events are going to start devaluing, like basically there's going to be a massive devaluation.

00:35:25.000 And I remember that thing that happened on the 6th, the storming of the Capitol, it didn't really reflect itself in the market the same way.

00:35:33.000 Bitcoin kind of stayed the same.

00:35:34.000 Everything else kind of stayed the same.

00:35:36.000 Stocks were going up!

00:35:37.000 I remember a lot of people that I was listening to, and these were just people who were speculating constantly, and they have their podcast, and they were saying, something is not right.

00:35:46.000 Something is disconnected here from reality.

00:35:48.000 So that is one thing that the book like it was it was suspecting that during this period you're going to see devaluation constantly.

00:35:56.000 Maybe it's happening and we're not seeing it.

00:35:59.000 It is happening.

00:35:59.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:36:00.000 There are reports that the cost of food is already starting to skyrocket, going up double digit percentages, fast food and dining.

00:36:07.000 It's just it's way up.

00:36:08.000 So there's major predictions of food shortages and or food inflation.

00:36:14.000 So, Texas had a food shortage because of the winter storm.

00:36:17.000 It made it impossible for trucks to come in.

00:36:19.000 But now, one of the things I'm seeing a lot of, people don't notice this stuff because we're basically frogs in a pot.

00:36:25.000 We're coming to a slow boil and we don't realize it.

00:36:29.000 I saw someone on Twitter say, I just went to the grocery store to buy a week's worth of groceries and I couldn't believe it was almost double what I normally spend.

00:36:35.000 A lot of people aren't really paying attention to how much it's costing them.

00:36:37.000 And I think there's a couple reasons for it.

00:36:39.000 For one, frogs in a pot, you don't really notice these gradual changes.

00:36:42.000 But a lot of people just don't have money anyway.

00:36:45.000 We're not getting the stimulus.

00:36:46.000 A lot of people are out of work.

00:36:47.000 So they're like, I don't know.

00:36:47.000 They're on unemployment.

00:36:49.000 Not paying my rent.

00:36:50.000 They're not really focused on the cost of goods right now, but they are definitely going up.

00:36:54.000 The stock market is a strange disconnect.

00:36:56.000 But maybe it's just because it's a delayed reaction.

00:36:59.000 Yeah, it seems like it's six to eight months behind.

00:37:01.000 With Bitcoin going up to $56,000 for Bitcoin.

00:37:06.000 Before it dipped again.

00:37:07.000 Before it dipped again.

00:37:08.000 That says something.

00:37:10.000 It went in only a few months.

00:37:12.000 It went from 13,000 in November to, what, February 56,000.

00:37:16.000 In only a few months, it skyrocketed that much.

00:37:20.000 That says something about the confidence of the stock market and this country.

00:37:23.000 And I have to wonder if we are just, like you mentioned, six to eight months delayed before the market takes a hard nosedive.

00:37:29.000 You know, you basically convinced me that it was 2008, Izzy, because when the sparks flew September 11th, it was anxiety.

00:37:36.000 And if that's a fall, that's...

00:37:39.000 It was anxiety.

00:37:40.000 And that's kind of the part of the constellation.

00:37:42.000 You really have to look at our behavior.

00:37:46.000 And we preemptively went after a nation or whatever.

00:37:49.000 Iraq.

00:37:50.000 Libya.

00:37:50.000 They predicted that in the crisis?

00:37:53.000 All of that was during the crisis that I mentioned.

00:37:55.000 So that was a little early.

00:37:56.000 The preemptive strike against another country.

00:37:58.000 That was.

00:38:00.000 And you got to wonder, I mean, in the same thing is like, you know, when you are exiting the real fall, going into the real winter, one starts to look like the other.

00:38:11.000 By the end of fall and the beginning of winter, it does just kind of fade into one another.

00:38:15.000 So this still could make sense in that respect.

00:38:17.000 But I mean, like there's this was just the inciting incident.

00:38:21.000 And then so like there's a lot of ways of looking at like, what are the sequence of events and where does it culminate?

00:38:27.000 Like, where does it go?

00:38:28.000 I think When it comes to predictions, it's very difficult, depending on your ability to calculate the variables in front of you, you can make better and better predictions.

00:38:37.000 It sounds like these guys are very, very smart.

00:38:41.000 And they were able to see a wide range of variables and track what they thought was the highest probability based on the things that were going to happen in their time period and based on history.

00:38:49.000 In which case they were able to, I would say fairly accurately predict things.

00:38:55.000 We don't expect people to be actual psychics who can tell you on this date at this time

00:38:59.000 the lottery number will be this.

00:39:01.000 But for someone to say there will be an economic catalyst, there will be insurrection and militias,

00:39:07.000 there will be fights in the streets, and it's like all that stuff is happening.

00:39:10.000 Now the other thing I think people should understand too is semantics and the language

00:39:17.000 Is it fair to say, when they mention the malicious fighting, would it be fair to say, well, we've seen right and left clashes over the past four or five years in suburbs and, you know, outlying areas?

00:39:28.000 We've seen Proud Boys and Antifa.

00:39:29.000 We've seen right-wing groups putting on shields and helmets and bats and going and fighting the left.

00:39:33.000 And we've seen the culmination of a left-wing guy walking up to a right-wing dude and just putting two bolts in his chest.

00:39:38.000 Is that basically what they're talking about?

00:39:40.000 My opinion is it's fair to say yes.

00:39:42.000 It's definitely fair to say because again, you look at the people, like, were there protests in previous seasons?

00:39:49.000 Yes.

00:39:49.000 Like, what does the action look like here?

00:39:52.000 It's, you know, tensions got a lot higher here.

00:39:57.000 It's kind of interesting because when you mentioned that, I often hear the same trigger words like, why are we hearing the word insurrection, secession, obviously the CDC, the spread of a new communicable disease.

00:40:10.000 That blew my mind when I heard that part of it.

00:40:13.000 But then even go into people like Katherine Austin Fitz, and you could say what you think about her theories, but she was saying, you know, when she researched the 37 protests that happened in 2020, 34 of them happened within a very short mileage around central, well, Federal Reserve banks.

00:40:33.000 And that a lot of infrastructure was destroyed around that.

00:40:36.000 Her theory was that it was to basically buy that infrastructure for pennies on the dollar, build up the smart grid. 0.97

00:40:43.000 Because my big question here is, where are we heading?

00:40:46.000 How can we visualize the spring?

00:40:49.000 What is it going to look like?

00:40:50.000 Because if it also changes... I mean, most people, they're just like, war.

00:40:53.000 Is there going to be war?

00:40:54.000 That's what they're afraid of.

00:40:55.000 But it's also like, how is the economy going to change?

00:40:59.000 Everything is already moving towards blockchain.

00:41:01.000 It's moving more digital.

00:41:03.000 We're a lot more reliant on the technology.

00:41:05.000 I think in Africa, the first baby was, you know, unborn child was already put on the blockchain.

00:41:12.000 And like, moving in this direction, and I've heard the big change, the great reset, moving from shareholder capitalism to stakeholder capitalism, which is, you know, basically it's just a restructuring of what our economy is now.

00:41:26.000 And I just find it very interesting.

00:41:28.000 It's definitely going more digital.

00:41:30.000 I think a Bitcoin's going to be worth a million bucks, and it's going to be worth a million bucks relatively soon.

00:41:34.000 By relative, I mean within a few years.

00:41:35.000 I think one Bitcoin will be a million dollars.

00:41:37.000 It's going to be $75K really fast.

00:41:39.000 If you look at the charts, how it shot up to like $38K, back down to $27K, up to $56K, back down to $45K, it's going up to $75K, back down to $62K.

00:41:46.000 But while you can look at Bitcoin and predict to a certain degree, you can like actually create, you know, like, here's what it did, here's what it'll likely do.

00:41:55.000 I think the reason we saw this massive jump was very different than the previous.

00:42:00.000 What we saw previously with Bitcoin was just popular mentions.

00:42:05.000 People started talking about Bitcoin, started buying it, made the price go up, then made more people talk about it, and then it created a snowball rolling down a hill where everyone's like, Bitcoin's so high and everyone's buying it.

00:42:14.000 I think Bitcoin skyrocketed this time because you have chaos, uncertainty, destabilization, capital insurrection, Donald Trump's claims of fraud, all of this stuff.

00:42:23.000 Mass inflation.

00:42:25.000 And mass inflation from the previous year.

00:42:27.000 So now you're looking at insurance companies, foreign countries.

00:42:32.000 Now there's rumors that Twitter may buy up a large portion of Bitcoin.

00:42:37.000 I think that's proven not true because they did that apparently to buy title, I guess.

00:42:41.000 But a lot of people are speculating who's going to be the next big company to put their balance sheet in Bitcoin because it's a safer bet than dollars right now.

00:42:48.000 Tesla.

00:42:49.000 Tesla definitely moved the needle a bit. 1.00

00:42:51.000 There's this thing I'm trying to think of the name.

00:42:53.000 It was Facebook, I believe.

00:42:57.000 It has it's not a I don't even think it's a crypto, but it's it's a different kind of asset that is based upon the average of all currencies everywhere.

00:43:07.000 So it's not mainly based in one.

00:43:10.000 And that's a protection, protectionary thing where like, if the dollar all of a sudden fails, but everything else stays stable, then you don't feel it that much.

00:43:18.000 Was that the Libra token?

00:43:20.000 Libra.

00:43:20.000 That's what it is.

00:43:21.000 Libra.

00:43:21.000 Yeah.

00:43:22.000 They started it and then the SEC hit him pretty hard.

00:43:24.000 It was security.

00:43:25.000 So they pulled back on the program.

00:43:27.000 Interesting.

00:43:27.000 I don't know much more.

00:43:28.000 Yeah, I didn't look too much deeper into that either.

00:43:31.000 But I started seeing in this period, a lot of people are looking forward to the high, and they're wondering like, what's stable?

00:43:38.000 And what has endurance?

00:43:40.000 What's going to last?

00:43:41.000 Like, is Bitcoin always going to be the gold standard for crypto?

00:43:45.000 I hear this talk a lot.

00:43:47.000 I think so.

00:43:48.000 First in, best addressed.

00:43:49.000 I don't see why not.

00:43:51.000 I guess my question is, how bad will things get?

00:43:55.000 I often talk about 5th generational civil war, information warfare, manipulation.

00:44:01.000 What do you think?

00:44:03.000 Do you think we're in a civil war period?

00:44:04.000 I've so I've often thought like when they said the the weapons of war will constantly be the most powerful and effective weapons of war and this time around I wonder if it's it's it doesn't seem like explosions I think you're right it has to do with the colonization of the mind I mean you could go all the way back to the was it the CIA director William Casey In the 80s that said like our disinformation program will be complete when everything the American public believes is false.

00:44:33.000 I mean, that's a meme.

00:44:34.000 I've found that also in several books, you know, like there's also William Colby beforehand, which was basically saying, yeah, we definitely have, you know, we've infiltrated journalism.

00:44:46.000 We have to because we have to control the narrative.

00:44:48.000 In many ways.

00:44:49.000 So the narrative is huge.

00:44:51.000 Like, if you get people following the narrative... Was it Aldous Huxley who said, eventually, when you have people knowing that they're being oppressed, they revolt.

00:45:01.000 But if you can give them enough bread and circuses, or just bring them their pharmaceutical revolution, right?

00:45:08.000 Then how do you get people to be quite happy in their servitude?

00:45:12.000 So basically accepting the way things are going, I would imagine you have to control the narrative.

00:45:18.000 Then I start taking a look at what's happening today.

00:45:22.000 Social media is so much easier for everyone in this room is going to have a different feed.

00:45:26.000 We're going to have something different showing up on my feed than your feed.

00:45:30.000 And all of that is part of our digital twinning, right?

00:45:33.000 We all have a digital avatar potentially run through different simulations to see how, you know, how is Ben Joseph Stewart, with all his data, going to behave if he gets this kind of media?

00:45:46.000 I think we've heard enough of that, even Elon Musk saying, AI writing blogs and just like, if something doesn't hit, just slightly adjust, slightly adjust, slightly adjust.

00:45:55.000 I think it's information for sure.

00:45:57.000 Think about what this means.

00:45:59.000 We already have this where AI writes news articles.

00:46:02.000 So this has been around for quite some time actually, maybe over 10 years.

00:46:05.000 I went to a presentation in Chicago at the, I believe it was the Art Institute,

00:46:10.000 where some guy showed us examples of how the AI does it.

00:46:14.000 At the time, it was fairly rudimentary.

00:46:16.000 It was like, if you have a weather system where the data is very easily inputted,

00:46:24.000 it says thunderstorm Wednesday, 9 p.m., rain, then all they need to do is add very simple English.

00:46:30.000 On Wednesday at 9 p.m., there will be a thunderstorm.

00:46:34.000 And so you ended up with this very short article that said, your weather for the week on Tuesday, you can expect to see.

00:46:40.000 And so it adds these very simple bits of English, and then just inputs that data.

00:46:44.000 Then we started seeing that around sports games.

00:46:47.000 Because the data from sports games was very easy, they could actually write more substantive articles, where it would say things like, football player, you know, X, scored, you know, this many points in the game, and a quote from a guy says this, and no one has to actually write anything.

00:47:02.000 The data points just exist from the existing, you know, infrastructure.

00:47:07.000 Like, when you go to Google, you can see the score from like a football game or something.

00:47:13.000 All that has to do is take all of those things, find the name, find the players, you know, stats for the game, and then boom, you've got a substantive article.

00:47:20.000 Now we're coming to this point where, why do we need woke rage bait writers when an AI can, you can enter in a subject matter. 0.90

00:47:28.000 You could simply just type in, okay, we have a guy and he's racist.

00:47:34.000 He was in Texas.

00:47:35.000 He yelled at a waiter.

00:47:38.000 And then it can generate automatically the opinion.

00:47:42.000 And if it doesn't work, then the next time it can learn what the better opinion is that will get more people to click it.

00:47:47.000 We're getting dangerously close to this point where you're not going to realize the opinion you're reading isn't from a human being.

00:47:53.000 It's automatically generated by an AI who doesn't know or care, because it doesn't have the capacity to, and it's making you lose your mind and want to go insane and be violent.

00:48:02.000 You know, what's really interesting about you saying that is, I was studying this thing called Zipf Law.

00:48:08.000 Z-I-P-F Law. 0.96

00:48:10.000 And it's basically this algorithm that you can put towards any language, and it will show whether it's a natural language or not.

00:48:17.000 So all human languages follow this law.

00:48:20.000 Music also follows this law.

00:48:22.000 And it's the same with our genetic code.

00:48:24.000 And so this started coming into what's now called linguistic genetics.

00:48:30.000 That's showing the way we use words, even thinking words.

00:48:35.000 It works in the same way that our genes do and our words actually have epigenetic effects on our DNA.

00:48:42.000 And so, when you're saying that about AI, there's something about what it's trying to do is keep your focus, keep your attention.

00:48:53.000 What you focus a lot of attention on, you know that your body starts to become engaged in that.

00:48:59.000 And so there's something, it's almost hypnosis.

00:49:01.000 In fact, it absolutely is hypnosis when you can focus your body and your mind on one thing.

00:49:07.000 Spiritual traditions had it where you breathe and you focus on a light or something like that.

00:49:12.000 Nowadays, it's these articles he was just talking while you were pissing or whatever you were doing.

00:49:16.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:49:17.000 Yeah, so basically I was saying that we're getting to the point where you can have a human just input a few things like Let's say today Ian did a backflip.

00:49:17.000 I feel better.

00:49:26.000 So they'll write, Ian backflipped and I say it's racist.

00:49:30.000 Enter.

00:49:31.000 And then the AI can generate a long-winded thing where it's just like, today I was reading an article and I heard about this guy Ian who did a backflip.

00:49:38.000 Now why am I so angry about it?

00:49:40.000 So all of those things that sound human, that are like telling a story, could be just artificially generated.

00:49:46.000 And what happens then is the AI will then auto-generate this article based on Actually, it's like Ryan Long's sketch.

00:49:52.000 You familiar with Ryan Long, the comedian?

00:49:54.000 He did that bit where it's like, blank has a blank problem.

00:49:54.000 Yeah.

00:49:58.000 And then he showed all these ridiculous articles where it's like, you know, swimming has a transphobia problem, and like, basketball has a gender problem.

00:50:08.000 Like, you can just buzzwords. 0.87

00:50:10.000 That formula exists.

00:50:12.000 An AI could easily fill in the gaps once you make that sentence.

00:50:17.000 And what'll end up happening is, the AI will auto-generate the article, I'm sure these things exist already, and then they'll try and see how much traffic it gets, how long people are staying reading it, and then they'll keep tweaking it, and then they'll make another version.

00:50:31.000 It'll do a little bit worse, they'll make another version, version it'll do a little bit better, they'll keep that version.

00:50:36.000 They'll keep iterating and learning, and then eventually you will find the perfect rage-bait content being mass-produced for profit to keep people in a perpetual state of anger and anxiety.

00:50:46.000 And you're making me think of procedurally generated video games as well, as artificial intelligence builds out our digital realm, and they're like, this guy likes to turn right a lot, so let's give him a lot of right turns in his game to keep him playing this game, and to keep him engaged in my meditative trance that I want him playing into.

00:51:02.000 Imagine this.

00:51:03.000 In your phones, there's this motion sensor.

00:51:06.000 And there's, out of Aston University, I think his name is Max Little, I think he's a mathematician.

00:51:11.000 He found that people, you know, they keep their phones in their pockets and it can sense your gait cycle, the way you walk.

00:51:19.000 And with that data they found, now there hasn't been a huge study on it, but a 100% accurate diagnosis of neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, better than a doctor sitting and trying to diagnose you for the same because of the motion sensor that's already in your phone.

00:51:37.000 So this is just like the failure of imagination is not realizing how you can figure out from a motion sensor, you know, neurodegenerative disease and diagnose it.

00:51:49.000 Imagine now AI helping us get better at figuring out how we can use the technology that's already here.

00:51:55.000 So then I heard that Facebook was working on something that could predict your thoughts.

00:52:01.000 Literally predict your thoughts.

00:52:03.000 And so all their users, all the data, predict your thoughts, what you're going to type in, what you're going to look for.

00:52:09.000 And that's what this thing called Sentient World Simulation is.

00:52:13.000 You know, so it's a digital mirror of the, you know, our whole world, all the data points, everything connected to the Internet of Things, eventually the Internet of Bodies, which is basically just harvesting biometric data.

00:52:24.000 It's the matrix.

00:52:25.000 It really is.

00:52:26.000 But here's the crazy thing about the matrix.

00:52:28.000 In the movie, you have this AI that they say they tried to craft a utopian matrix, but humans rejected it because they're predisposed to conflict.

00:52:37.000 What they don't consider is that we're watching the construction of this matrix, and it's going to be absolutely perfect in every way.

00:52:47.000 You are going to be completely entranced by it.

00:52:50.000 It's going to know exactly what you want, when you want it, what to say, when to say it, to keep you locked in that state.

00:52:56.000 We talk about, you mentioned video games, where they're like, Hey, let's, this guy likes to, for some reason, he jumps a whole lot.

00:53:01.000 Let's give him a platformer.

00:53:02.000 Let's make him, let's make him have to work for it and enjoy it.

00:53:05.000 They figure out what you want.

00:53:06.000 So you keep doing it.

00:53:08.000 What happens when we get to the point where we have Neuralink, when our social media is already doing this, our social media is already trying to feed us what they know will keep our eyes locked on that page, it's making everyone go insane.

00:53:19.000 What happens when they figure out how to make it perfect, that you will never unplug from Neuralink?

00:53:24.000 You end up rejecting it.

00:53:25.000 This has been my experience the last week.

00:53:26.000 I've been really hitting the games hard, and I'm getting to a point where I'll sit and stare at my computer and think, I have no joy from this, because this is not real conflict.

00:53:35.000 This is real conflict.

00:53:38.000 I'm just the extreme.

00:53:38.000 I don't know.

00:53:39.000 You're explaining that we're not there yet.

00:53:41.000 At a certain point, the AI is going to figure out how to overcome that hurdle.

00:53:45.000 And they're going to be like, how did we lose this guy?

00:53:47.000 You leaving?

00:53:48.000 You gave them all the data they needed to figure it out.

00:53:50.000 But they showed you all of these things.

00:53:52.000 Let's say you're sitting at a computer and they're feeding you a random number generator.

00:53:56.000 And then they served you the numbers 1, 17, 83, and 52.

00:54:00.000 And at 52, you got up and walked out.

00:54:02.000 The AI doesn't know or care.

00:54:03.000 It's a simple machine.

00:54:05.000 And they're going to say, don't give anybody 52.

00:54:07.000 And they're going to slowly figure out, and the next person leaves at 52 anyway, and they're going to figure out what they need to do in this game to prevent you from feeling like you're not accomplishing something.

00:54:17.000 But like in the movie The Matrix, people rejected it anyway.

00:54:19.000 Even though it was perfect, they still just, they need conflict.

00:54:22.000 But you misunderstand.

00:54:22.000 They need imperfection.

00:54:24.000 The AI would then give you that conflict.

00:54:26.000 They would create it.

00:54:27.000 What I'm telling you is, you are not going to be able to escape from a perfect trance.

00:54:32.000 The system will see you leave.

00:54:34.000 When you left that video game, it collected all the data as to what you did, when you did it, and what they gave you, and they'll say, we did something wrong, and they will adapt.

00:54:43.000 And the next person who's playing, they will slightly change it.

00:54:46.000 Eventually, out of the thousands of people who are playing this particular game, the A- I'm not saying the A exists right now, I'm saying, when we get to that point.

00:54:54.000 Eventually, with a thousand people playing, they'll make a certain amount of iterations where it'll discover, we figured out how to get a person to play for another minute longer.

00:55:03.000 Then they'll evolve that iteration.

00:55:05.000 Eventually, you will have people strapped in the machine saying, there's absolutely no reason to leave.

00:55:10.000 Food being one of them, for sure.

00:55:13.000 But if we're talking about a singularity in artificial intelligence, we're talking about robots that do work for us, that change, that do everything, you know, for our bidding, then the AI will eventually start having food delivered for you, and you will never leave their game.

00:55:27.000 So you think that the grand majority of people will eventually just give over to the Matrix, as they did in the movie, but then there will be a small extreme that is just not satisfied, that for whatever reason, the human brain's quantum calculator is greater than any AI we could build.

00:55:40.000 I don't think so.

00:55:41.000 And we'll pull out of it.

00:55:42.000 I think humans evolved for very specific circumstances, and one of the interesting things about humans as an apex predator is that adaptation through our intelligence allowed us to essentially evolve faster than evolution would permit.

00:55:58.000 Basically, when you look at a lion chasing a gazelle, right?

00:56:02.000 Is that what they eat?

00:56:03.000 Yeah.

00:56:03.000 They eat gazelle?

00:56:04.000 Amongst many other animals.

00:56:06.000 Amongst many other animals.

00:56:07.000 Well, the gazelle has to run fast, and the lion has to run faster.

00:56:10.000 The lion has to be stronger, and so there's this natural selection, there's a competition.

00:56:14.000 Humans, instead of evolving to become faster, to beat out the gazelle, evolve to become smarter.

00:56:22.000 So what happens is, because we can develop tools, there is no evolutionary strategy for any animal which can escape our power.

00:56:29.000 Nothing.

00:56:30.000 We have conquered everything, every other life form on this planet, even diseases.

00:56:35.000 Now granted, they can evolve and we're in a constant war against diseases, but Humans are the apex predator, and it's because evolution is too slow for us.

00:56:45.000 But what that also means is humans are still Animals who have adapted for very specific circumstances.

00:56:53.000 The technology that we've built adapts faster than life can adapt to it.

00:56:58.000 Which means we will potentially develop a technology which we will victimize ourselves with.

00:57:04.000 We will create an AI that won't seek to destroy us like the Terminator or the Matrix.

00:57:09.000 We won't go to war with it.

00:57:10.000 There could theoretically be a war in the sense that the AI will be a mindless, in a sense, automaton, seeking to give humans everything they've ever wanted, and there will be a few people who maybe break out of it for some reason or another can't be plugged in, and they'll be desperately trying to free people from this matrix, but the people will be like, get away from me!

00:57:27.000 I know I'm in the matrix!

00:57:28.000 I love being in the matrix! 1.00

00:57:29.000 You go live in your garbage world! 0.99

00:57:31.000 I have everything I could possibly ever want! 1.00

00:57:34.000 And that's what humans will get wrapped up into, and then they will just fall apart.

00:57:39.000 Unless, of course, the true singularity means that the AI can replicate machines, which can manipulate digits, replicate themselves, expand their own technology, in which case, humans will just become a remnant, I suppose, and then in tens of thousands of years, or hundreds of thousands of years, there will just be self-replicating machines floating through the universe, replicating on various planets, and no human in sight.

00:57:58.000 And when you say years, that's basically the time that it takes to travel a distance.

00:58:02.000 So like time is just relative.

00:58:05.000 I mean, not to diverge too far off, but when you say 10,000 years from now, you could just mean a certain distance away from us right now that is happening.

00:58:13.000 It takes 10,000 years to get there.

00:58:15.000 Whether or not time is passing, you're sitting here, you're going there.

00:58:19.000 It's there.

00:58:22.000 It may be that we create a system that self-replicates, and humans just eventually cease to exist, and then the universe gets populated by self-replicating machines with no real consciousness, with no real drive or passions.

00:58:36.000 And that's it, and they colonize the galaxy, and people... And then you know what you end up with?

00:58:41.000 You end up with some moderately primitive civilization minding their own business, and then a strange cube lands on their planet and starts just wiping everything out and terraforming it for no reason for a human race that doesn't exist anymore.

00:58:54.000 Unless psychedelics are that X factor.

00:58:58.000 You mentioned, we were talking about DMT earlier.

00:58:59.000 That's a great segue.

00:59:01.000 Well, here's the reason why I want to say that.

00:59:02.000 There's a really interesting book called What Technology Wants, and it talks about evolution, and it says there's two main camps, and one is the contingency theory, the other is the inevitability theory.

00:59:14.000 One is that contingency.

00:59:16.000 Things just happen because, at the moment, that's the best tool it had to arrive at a random meandering into whatever direction that billiard ball shot the other one off into.

00:59:26.000 The other one is that everything inevitably is converging towards, like, no matter what, we humans were going to be evolved here, even if you rewound and started over, over and over again.

00:59:36.000 During the Metazoan period, eyes evolved 40 times, I believe, and different kinds of eyes have continually been evolved, and these are immaculate.

00:59:47.000 Even Darwin was just like, there's something interesting about the eye.

00:59:50.000 Anything less out of it, and it wouldn't work as beautifully as it does.

00:59:55.000 So, inevitably, what this guy is saying is, in What Technology Wants, the awesome book, he's saying that technology is also inevitable.

01:00:04.000 And the way we build it, it's also at a population density, we get to a point where this will always happen, what's happening on the planet right now.

01:00:12.000 And just to finish this off, what I find super interesting is one of the tech hubs of the world, Silicon Valley, what was that area very popular for during the awakening?

01:00:24.000 Haight-Ashbury.

01:00:24.000 Yeah, the psychedelic trances of the 60s.

01:00:27.000 Jerry Garcia.

01:00:28.000 And a lot of those people actually went on to being techies.

01:00:32.000 So Timothy Leary, huge into talking about, you know, psychedelics.

01:00:36.000 This is how we turn on a generation. 0.95

01:00:38.000 By the end of his life, he was talking about AI and he was talking about future tech.

01:00:43.000 Terrence McKenna was doing the same thing.

01:00:44.000 So I do feel like I do feel like what you were saying might have a little bit of merit that most people will be fine and they are the the ones who were heard or group think really they just want to be part of the group and then there's the outliers like you'll you'll find outliers even among you know chimps or orangutans where like they

01:01:07.000 They studied these chimps and they're like, why are they so depressed? 0.65

01:01:10.000 They're always hanging out way outside.

01:01:12.000 And they, they took these outliers and they studied them and then they brought them back.

01:01:16.000 And it turns out that their entire tribe were murdered because they were, their outliers, the ones who were different, they stayed on the outside of the group. 0.90

01:01:24.000 They're also the early warning signs of external threats.

01:01:27.000 Interesting.

01:01:28.000 And so the interesting thing is, I wonder if there is an x-factor and psychedelics, potentially, they seem to be this thing where there's intelligence in nature.

01:01:37.000 I believe there really is intelligence in nature.

01:01:41.000 It uses an algorithm to know how to grow towards the sunlight and somehow synergize and harmonize with the mycelium blanket.

01:01:49.000 And it really is this closed-loop system that found a way to just survive.

01:01:55.000 There's an algorithm, this very same equation that accounts for the what is that Mandelbrot set that kind of infinity loop that you know generator is the very same equation that accounts for how populations especially like rabbit populations they balance themselves they go to a peak and then they balance themselves and it's always something it's some external thing whether it's a predator or you know the environment something keeps it in check it's this closed loop system.

01:02:23.000 Is that the Fibonacci sequence?

01:02:25.000 The Mandelbrot set?

01:02:27.000 No, no, that's different.

01:02:29.000 Let me tell you something crazy.

01:02:29.000 Yeah.

01:02:31.000 You mentioned that like the eye was like, essentially, some believe it was an inevitability.

01:02:37.000 Then it stands to reason that if we ever encounter extraterrestrial intelligence, they will look very, very much like us for several reasons.

01:02:46.000 One, We evolved on a planet where we have an oxygen-rich environment, but not too oxygen-rich, which means we have the ability to manipulate fire, which allows us to separate certain elements and create various components.

01:02:58.000 It allows us to create technology.

01:03:00.000 It allows us to refine minerals and ultimately build rocket ships and other technology.

01:03:05.000 An intelligent species, say the dolphin, they're fairly smart.

01:03:07.000 They don't got hands. 0.99

01:03:08.000 They're underwater.

01:03:09.000 There's no fire by which to smelt anything, and there's no hands by which to manipulate things.

01:03:16.000 Out of all the life that may exist in the universe, assuming it does, the ones that succeed in developing technology will probably be in a similar environment, or at least in a certain capacity, have the ability to manipulate elements, to create components in advanced technology, and have the ability to manipulate small things.

01:03:32.000 So it's entirely possible that eyes will evolve, the ability to sense the visible spectrum as we call it, the ability to have some kind of fingertips so that you can use smaller tools and make very refined computers and microchips and things like that.

01:03:47.000 And probably, I would say oxygen makes a lot of sense because the ability to control fire.

01:03:51.000 So, they breathe similar things to us.

01:03:53.000 They look particularly different.

01:03:55.000 Who knows what their skin might be like?

01:03:56.000 Maybe their sun is, you know, bigger, smaller.

01:03:58.000 Maybe they're further away from it or whatever.

01:04:00.000 Maybe they like certain temperatures.

01:04:02.000 But you look at the boiling point, the freezing point of water, where there's water there tends to be life.

01:04:06.000 I think they would be extremely similar to humans.

01:04:09.000 Maybe, uh, we see symmetry in nature.

01:04:12.000 They may have two arms.

01:04:13.000 They may have four and no legs, and their arms function, you know, interchangeably, but they'll still be able to use fine tools.

01:04:20.000 Like, they could have a darker star, so they're not as light-focused.

01:04:24.000 Maybe they're more receptive to heat, although I don't know if it's, if, what's more base, heat or light?

01:04:29.000 You have to think about the freezing point and boiling point of water.

01:04:31.000 Yeah, hydrogen's pervasive.

01:04:32.000 They would likely exist in a similar temperature set that we do.

01:04:36.000 Now, I do think it can be a bit simplistic to think that, because there's probably things we haven't discovered yet.

01:04:43.000 There's probably ways by which someone, some species could eventually discover a way to isolate certain elements and develop components without using fire.

01:04:52.000 So, based on our current technology, we can make that assumption.

01:04:55.000 They must be in some way Similar to our atmosphere or whatever like that.

01:04:58.000 I think that's fair to say.

01:04:59.000 But there was, I believe, in the past 20 years, they used to think the components for life were based on exactly what we were.

01:05:06.000 They're like, oh, here's everything that life has.

01:05:08.000 But they were looking only at Earth.

01:05:09.000 And then there was a revision saying, instead of saying they need water, how about we say there needs to be some kind of base by which chemicals can mix and interchange?

01:05:17.000 It doesn't need to be water.

01:05:19.000 So it could be something else, theoretically.

01:05:21.000 But I think it's fair to say, you know, there's a good chance that, assuming there is alien life, and I think the universe is certainly big enough to warrant it, they will actually be fairly similar to us.

01:05:30.000 They won't speak English like they do in the Marvel movies, but like in the Star Trek, you know, show, they're all fairly humanoid.

01:05:37.000 They all look different, they have different heads.

01:05:39.000 It is a little over-the-top how they all are basically people, but their foreheads are a little different.

01:05:43.000 But you look at some of the alien races and bipedal humanoid type structure, I think there's a decent probability of it.

01:05:50.000 Maybe not a guarantee.

01:05:51.000 You mentioned the bipedal part.

01:05:52.000 There's symmetry in just about all organisms.

01:05:58.000 So that symmetry is very interesting because to produce two of everything, it helps the way we move and orient to gravity, but it also is like DNA can be more efficient.

01:06:08.000 Just repeat the same thing on the other side, mirror it, And so they go into that and they also speak about like contingency and inevitability.

01:06:17.000 It's not one or the other, it's yes and.

01:06:20.000 Contingency, you were saying how maybe they found another way to get to a point that we did.

01:06:25.000 Maybe they made jumps and strides and their main point in the book is that technology is the main thing that does that.

01:06:32.000 We have this contingency where it's like, usually it happens very slow, but technology It can make huge strides because something else, you know, very intelligent is working on giving it those.

01:06:45.000 It can jump a bunch of generations that we had to go through in the slow way.

01:06:48.000 So contingency is the way that it happens and inevitability is where it's going.

01:06:54.000 So I know I'm going to California, but how I get there, that's dependent upon the roads and the traffic.

01:06:59.000 You want to know what else is a very large component that will... I believe there's a likelihood that, assuming there is extraterrestrial intelligence, they will be similar to us, not identical, but they will also be a very war-like species.

01:07:13.000 The reason for it is war is natural competition between the intelligent.

01:07:17.000 A war between humans and deer ends very predictably.

01:07:21.000 Hunters go out in hunting season and sweep the fields and wipe out what they call pests.

01:07:25.000 A lot of deer no longer exist.

01:07:27.000 However, humans up against humans means that when one human develops gunpowder, the other human has to quickly adapt.

01:07:35.000 And because they're intelligent, The conflict goes from being between species to between different tribes within the same species.

01:07:42.000 That conflict results in a rapid development of technology.

01:07:45.000 Because if you don't compete successfully with the new arms and the new weapons, you die and you get wiped out.

01:07:51.000 So you take a look at Europe, for instance, and the proximity of all these warring countries and the rapid development of their technology.

01:07:59.000 That war drove a lot of technological advancement.

01:08:02.000 Resulting in a lot of things people probably take for granted.

01:08:05.000 Space program had a lot to do with the Cold War.

01:08:09.000 And we developed a lot of new technologies.

01:08:11.000 Plastics, for instance, were heavily influenced, I think, with the space race.

01:08:15.000 Trying to find lighter and stronger materials.

01:08:17.000 And now, we reap the benefits of that.

01:08:20.000 Any other species, I should slow down a little bit, many other species in a different planet, if they're living freely and peacefully, say Avatar, you know the movie Avatar?

01:08:32.000 That actually was particularly intelligent.

01:08:34.000 They weren't very advanced.

01:08:36.000 They had bows and arrows.

01:08:38.000 And I know it's probably just a movie cliche that they're trying to make them look like Native Americans or indigenous population, you know, as primitive.

01:08:44.000 But the reality is, based on their world, where they could all communicate with different species, that would present less of an opportunity for conflict.

01:08:54.000 Because they weren't a particularly warlike species and were very, you know, pro-nature, they didn't develop a lot of these technologies.

01:09:01.000 So, uh, I'm not an expert on this stuff, I'm not an anthropologist or anything, but I was reading about why it is that the various tribes of Native Americans in North America weren't as advanced as, say, Europeans in terms of gunpowder and ships, and it's because the country, North America, was so massive that when a conflict would arise, certain tribes could just leave.

01:09:19.000 And so there was an opportunity to escape as opposed to fight.

01:09:23.000 And when given the opportunity, most animals choose, most living beings choose no conflict.

01:09:29.000 So even a bear, a grizzly bear, they don't want to fight you.

01:09:32.000 If you're threatening their children, they might.

01:09:34.000 If they're starving, they might.

01:09:36.000 But in Europe, where it was settled for a long time, and you had basically people pushed to the edges, it was, I'm going to war with you and taking what you got or else.

01:09:45.000 And then they just became very competitive.

01:09:48.000 Whereas the Native Americans were like, yes, there was a lot of war.

01:09:50.000 Absolutely.

01:09:51.000 But a lot of tribes could just be like, we better get out of here. 0.59

01:09:54.000 It's better to run than fight.

01:09:55.000 Then maybe it's possible we're only warlike because we're all stuck on this planet with nowhere to run.

01:09:59.000 And if we were able to spread out infinitely, that we would let go of that.

01:10:04.000 Like Star Trek.

01:10:06.000 The Federation becomes much less warlike.

01:10:09.000 And most of the, you know, in the show, the Enterprise is a science vessel.

01:10:14.000 It does have military capabilities because you've got to defend yourself from threats and there is war.

01:10:18.000 But yeah, I guess the issue is when you look at, say, the movie Avatar and these imaginations of what a species would be like if they didn't have conflict, why would we have any reason to develop the technology if we're comfortable and peaceful?

01:10:31.000 You need to create the conflict within yourself.

01:10:31.000 Right.

01:10:33.000 Why?

01:10:33.000 I like psychedelics.

01:10:34.000 If you've ever taken psychedelics, you know you have to face yourself.

01:10:38.000 The natural conflict of nature, the what have I done wrong?

01:10:42.000 Maybe that's Will keep us building and creating if we force ourselves to work the muscle of the mind.

01:10:48.000 In psychedelics, it is a technology.

01:10:52.000 The way we use it, it is a technology.

01:10:56.000 Shamanism is a technology. 1.00

01:10:58.000 There's a very accurate point to this.

01:11:00.000 When you take psychedelics, what I believe, the main thing that you're doing is you're amplifying the here and the now, the set and setting that you're around.

01:11:07.000 Your mindset is being amplified, all of your emotions, your subconscious is being amplified.

01:11:12.000 It's shown that the reptilian brain, the mammalian brain, the neocortex, All the filters between them, they go.

01:11:20.000 So your subconscious is emerging.

01:11:23.000 And then so, shamanic tribes, what they would do is they would have some kind of a rattle and they would get like a rhythm going.

01:11:30.000 And then they would sing, they would use the voice.

01:11:32.000 And there's something about the melody and the rhythm and the use of song, which they say they got from the plants.

01:11:38.000 That's the technology that destabilizes what's called the default mode network.

01:11:42.000 And that's where they say the ego lies.

01:11:45.000 Let's talk about this extended state DMT stuff.

01:11:48.000 So, we had Alex Jones and Michael Malice on this show, and a lot of talk about DMT.

01:11:54.000 And gorillas.

01:11:55.000 And gorillas, that's right.

01:11:56.000 And Ishmael, which Ian has right there.

01:11:58.000 Thank you very much.

01:11:59.000 Josh, for sending me a copy of Ishmael.

01:12:03.000 For those that aren't familiar, the meme, I am a gorilla, which we sell the shirt, go to TimCast.com, click shop and you get your I am a gorilla t-shirt.

01:12:10.000 It's based off of Alex Jones saying this book Ishmael is a psychic gorilla telling people that they're like, you know, destroying the planet.

01:12:17.000 And so Alex kept saying, you know, I'm a gorilla.

01:12:18.000 And then the gorilla emoji happened.

01:12:20.000 Then we made the shirt as a joke, but we have the book.

01:12:22.000 So, uh, anyway, in this conversation we were having, there was talk of the elves.

01:12:27.000 Breaking through the veil.

01:12:29.000 You take DMT, you take enough, you blast off.

01:12:32.000 And the interesting thing about this conversation, the thing that really, you know, excites me is this idea.

01:12:39.000 There's been studies where people had shared experiences.

01:12:42.000 They all take DMT.

01:12:44.000 And you'd think if the drug was an internal chemical effect on your brain, well then everyone's brain's gonna be different.

01:12:50.000 But people reported seeing basically the same things.

01:12:53.000 Now, these trips are limited.

01:12:55.000 But you were telling me, Ben, about extended state DMT.

01:12:57.000 What's going on with this?

01:12:58.000 So if any of your listeners know, Dr. Rick Strassman, he wrote DMT, the spirit molecule.

01:13:05.000 What he did was there was a long prohibition on psychedelics, and then he was the first in the U.S.

01:13:10.000 to break through that prohibition.

01:13:12.000 And he basically just said, I want to inject people with high amounts of DMT and see what happens.

01:13:16.000 It was very, very simple.

01:13:17.000 And they were like, all right, approved.

01:13:19.000 Broke through that.

01:13:20.000 So they injected them in a clinical setting with high amounts of DMT and these people would have the very same acceleration.

01:13:30.000 There's this crescendo and then you blast through some kind of a what can only be described as like an other dimensional or at least a psychological barrier and you blast through into another world.

01:13:40.000 The veil.

01:13:41.000 The veil.

01:13:42.000 And so the interesting thing was, in a lot of people who speak about this, there's hundreds of thousands of trip reports, or at least many, many thousands, I should say, of trip reports of people saying, when you get to this world, it's not just a distortion of this world.

01:13:58.000 It's not just like you're seeing pink elephants in the road, but the road is this world.

01:14:03.000 You seem to be in a completely different place, but it's structured.

01:14:06.000 It's not just very weird and amorphous, it's very structured, and the beings that you meet there, the people come back and say, like, listen, I've done ayahuasca, I've done peyote, I've done mushrooms, you meet different things, and I can't tell if it's just part of my own psyche, but in the DMT space, this was not me.

01:14:26.000 This was absolutely not me.

01:14:28.000 They're very, very intelligent.

01:14:30.000 A lot of the times they're insectoid.

01:14:32.000 Sometimes they call them machine elves or clockwork elves.

01:14:34.000 They have mechanical aspects to them.

01:14:38.000 You know, short, very small, sometimes very weird.

01:14:41.000 Joe Rogan talks about it a lot, but they fall into certain categories.

01:14:45.000 So there is some kind of like repetition or like an archetype to what people experience in this realm.

01:14:52.000 Michael Malice said they're like slinkies.

01:14:55.000 Like they're made of like a wireframe spiraling kind of structure of some sort.

01:14:59.000 I've heard of that.

01:14:59.000 I've heard they're like elves made of like, you know, tin cans and sometimes like trash, sometimes crystals.

01:15:07.000 But there's really only a few categories.

01:15:09.000 It's not like, you know, oh, well, I saw, you know, like this actor or, you know, whatever, like a 3000 foot Bigfoot.

01:15:17.000 They usually fall within the same categories, and the interesting thing about this is that the extended state DMT, so I just did a film called DMT Quest, and I'll talk about that in a little bit, but DMT Quest is all about endogenous DMT, which means we produce DMT inside of our own brain, and we haven't known why.

01:15:37.000 It's very interesting.

01:15:38.000 Like, it's there all the time.

01:15:41.000 It's being produced throughout the brain in far higher amounts than we originally thought.

01:15:45.000 There was a bunch of people that said, yeah, but it's not enough to make enough sense of it.

01:15:49.000 But we show in DMT Quest with John Chavez, the founder of it, that it's being produced about How much serotonin and dopamine we have in the brain, that's how much DMT we're making.

01:16:02.000 You know, it's comparable levels.

01:16:04.000 So the interesting thing is, is like, we know it's already in there.

01:16:07.000 Maybe it's a part of how we see reality, how we experience reality.

01:16:12.000 Rick Strassman said, everybody who comes back from a mega dose of DMT, they say, whatever that was, that was more real than this real.

01:16:20.000 That felt more real than this.

01:16:22.000 And that's something that happened over and over again.

01:16:24.000 And these volunteers, they weren't talking to one another.

01:16:26.000 So the people who took the DMT said the trip, the place they went to, felt more like reality?

01:16:33.000 It felt more familiar.

01:16:34.000 It felt more real.

01:16:35.000 And it's just more real than real.

01:16:37.000 That felt more real than this real.

01:16:39.000 And that was a lot of people saying that.

01:16:41.000 So this, you know, now compounded on, you know, this was in the 90s, Dr. Rick Strassman was doing this.

01:16:47.000 So now there's this awesome guy, Anton Bilton.

01:16:51.000 He's the one who funded DMT Quest, and he also was the one who funded Imperial College London to do extended state DMT.

01:17:00.000 Basically, that's taking, I think it's called the Henry Boyle machine.

01:17:03.000 It's like an anesthesiology machine where it's a continuous infusion into your bloodstream, now of DMT, and it has already started.

01:17:12.000 So, I don't know, like, yes, they're gathering data, but it's probably not going to be out for a couple years.

01:17:17.000 It takes a while for it to come out.

01:17:19.000 But just imagine, so the reason why they're doing this is because DMT is very fast acting.

01:17:24.000 They call it the lunchman's psychedelic, because you can go to lunch, do DMT, and when you're back, there's no real afterglow.

01:17:31.000 It's not like, oh man, I need to take a day off.

01:17:33.000 You're just back, you're 100% back, but with like a, what the?

01:17:37.000 Like, that's how you're feeling afterwards.

01:17:39.000 So when these people were doing these very deep trips, blasting off, could they interact with the real world?

01:17:46.000 Could they like sit up and be like, hey yo, I'm not feeling too well, can you get me out of this chair?

01:17:50.000 Or were they just like zonked out? 0.96

01:17:52.000 It's a good question.

01:17:53.000 Could they?

01:17:54.000 Maybe.

01:17:56.000 So theoretically, I've done it.

01:17:59.000 And theoretically, I've gotten up in the middle of it.

01:18:01.000 So can you?

01:18:02.000 Yes.

01:18:03.000 Do you want to?

01:18:04.000 No.

01:18:05.000 It's more interesting in there.

01:18:06.000 It's not interesting to be in this world while you're having that experience.

01:18:11.000 You want to just kind of stay super chill, low light.

01:18:14.000 It can get very aggravating.

01:18:15.000 A lot of light, a lot of noise.

01:18:17.000 So you're set in setting.

01:18:19.000 It has to hold the space for you to be wherever you are.

01:18:22.000 Sensory deprivation.

01:18:24.000 Some people have done that.

01:18:25.000 Aubrey Mark is just, I forget how many, six days in complete darkness and you start having almost DMT-like visuals in that kind of respect.

01:18:36.000 So you could probably compound it like that.

01:18:38.000 But imagine this.

01:18:40.000 Imperial College, London.

01:18:42.000 They're doing extended state DMT.

01:18:44.000 Why?

01:18:44.000 Because 15 minutes in that space is not enough.

01:18:47.000 And we need to talk to whatever these beings are.

01:18:50.000 So this is a major university that's like, well, there's so many, there's so much anecdotal evidence.

01:18:56.000 We need to figure out what's going on in that space.

01:18:58.000 Cause what if these actually are interdimensional beings that are here?

01:19:03.000 We just never see it because the veil is here.

01:19:06.000 We see a small sliver of, of the light spectrum.

01:19:09.000 All of a sudden you start to understand what Alex Jones was trying to say on Joe Rogan when he was yelling about the interdimensional beings and all this stuff going on.

01:19:17.000 And you're like, what are you talking about?

01:19:19.000 It's like you slow down and you explain people do DMT.

01:19:24.000 They experience something that is fairly shared among people.

01:19:29.000 And that, that is what really makes me say like, I want to know what this is.

01:19:33.000 Cause when I, when I hear people talk about ghosts, I remember there was like a coffee shop by me when I was a little kid and they were like, oh, it's haunted.

01:19:39.000 Someone once got pushed down the stairs and I'm like, dude, I'm more likely to believe someone pushed him down the stairs.

01:19:44.000 And it wasn't a ghost who pushed him downstairs.

01:19:45.000 It was someone who didn't like him.

01:19:46.000 You know what I mean?

01:19:47.000 But when you tell me that a university put a bunch of people in a chair, you know, shot them full of DMT, and they all had a very, very similar experience, I have two thoughts.

01:19:56.000 One, I think it's reasonable that maybe it's just because we're all human that our brains react the same way, creating a similar experience.

01:20:06.000 Or perhaps there's something more to it.

01:20:09.000 Maybe we're shattering through this veil and we're seeing something beyond reality that truly does exist.

01:20:14.000 You know, before people realized there was a charged electromagnetic spectrum, they did not know it existed or could even fathom what it was.

01:20:21.000 And then we were like, hey, yo, guess what?

01:20:23.000 Radio waves.

01:20:23.000 Now we can communicate by just like a signal being sent out with electromagnetic pulses.

01:20:28.000 You know, what I really love about this is that you guys are saying they keep experiencing the same type of things.

01:20:33.000 Either it's mechanical, insectoid, you said beings of light sometimes, or small creatures like elvish things. 0.66

01:20:41.000 So it is possible there are species throughout the universe that have evolved and they were, one of them was an insectoid species.

01:20:47.000 One of them was a small hominid or a small, one of them was a mechanical society that is like advanced AI. 0.99

01:20:54.000 And one is just pure light that is conscious, that is, that's possible.

01:20:57.000 What if this has happened over and over and over again, and when we're talking about inevitability, what if it's inevitable that we explore—maybe it's not always called psychedelics—but it's inevitable that we explore beyond the veil of our own limitation, and that's what evolution is, is we realize There's actually something universal that we're all connected to.

01:21:18.000 Carl Jung called it the collective unconscious.

01:21:21.000 Some call it the Akash.

01:21:24.000 I don't know how much I even understand about those terms, but what if it is inevitable that breaking out of what's called the default mode network all psychedelics do that and the default mode network is it's consuming like 60 50 to 60 percent of all of our biological energy at least in our brain when we're just ruminating and daydreaming it's it's some say it's not efficient maybe it does serve a purpose but psychedelics break you out of that and this is how people are saying psychedelics are are

01:21:53.000 Helping people with intractable depression, anxiety, things like eating disorders, obsessive-compulsive disorder, post-traumatic stress, TBI.

01:22:05.000 Unlimited Sciences is a group out of Boulder who basically brought up to the UFC.

01:22:11.000 You know, because there's so much traumatic brain injury that psilocybin mushrooms, potentially working with Johns Hopkins University, is saying, like, we need to actually dose some of these fighters with psilocybin because it's helping neurogenesis.

01:22:25.000 They're regrowing brain patterns back.

01:22:27.000 Low doses of DMT actually help for stroke.

01:22:30.000 So, imagine, DMT might be actually really, really important in the brain.

01:22:34.000 We just don't know why yet.

01:22:36.000 So, we're sitting here speculating on it.

01:22:38.000 We're all on DMT, by the way.

01:22:40.000 Everyone in here and everyone listening, we're all on DMT.

01:22:42.000 It's just sub-psychedelic.

01:22:44.000 You mean, like, naturally occurring in our brains?

01:22:46.000 Naturally occurring, endogenous DMT.

01:22:47.000 We don't want to give the kids the impression that we all smoke marijuana.

01:22:50.000 No, you're definitely right about that.

01:22:50.000 It would be a different show if that was the case.

01:22:52.000 Very different, very different.

01:22:53.000 All plants, all mammals.

01:22:54.000 Check this out, check this out.

01:22:55.000 We were talking before about, you know, MMORPG reality.

01:23:00.000 Is this existence full of billions of humans who are all sentient conscious entities?

01:23:05.000 Are only some people sentient conscious entities?

01:23:09.000 Or is it only you listening to this show?

01:23:12.000 What if this experience people are having where they say it's more real than reality, what if that's just like when you're not playing the game?

01:23:20.000 So have you guys seen the Rick and Morty episode where they go to Blitz and Chits, I think it's called, and he plays the game called Roy, and he basically puts on his headset and then lives a full life as a guy named Roy.

01:23:32.000 And then he loses when he's like in his old age gets crushed by a carpet and then all of a sudden he like comes back to the the game arcade and he's like wait who am I I'm I'm Morty like what if that's what it is what if the reality is you're getting a you're not really blasting off like you are but you're not really breaking through it's just like You're temporarily looking back at the real world where you're playing this video game that is humans on earth.

01:23:58.000 And it's a temporary glimpse because DMT doesn't actually take you out of the game.

01:24:02.000 You're still alive.

01:24:03.000 You know what's really interesting is because we can access it and we can turn it up.

01:24:08.000 I believe we can.

01:24:09.000 It's not proven yet, but like Wim Hof, the Dutchman, he holds 26 Guinness World Records.

01:24:14.000 He has a breathing technique that allows him to swim under polar ice caps.

01:24:18.000 He's ran a marathon in the Arctic Circle as well as in the Sahara Desert without drinking any water.

01:24:25.000 He's climbed to the top of Mount Everest in sandals and shorts because of this breathing technique.

01:24:30.000 And so that's what made Jon Chavez and I, when we were making DMT Quest, we took a Wim Hof breathing instructor and we sat him in a chair and we had him hooked up to EEG machines and we just had him do the breath and we looked at the EEG profile and it looks, to our understanding and to what we've compared it to, identical to the DMT EEG profile.

01:24:52.000 That's crazy.

01:24:53.000 So now we're talking about human potential.

01:24:55.000 How do you access the DMT and why?

01:24:58.000 So Wim Hof is saying, we are helping people with their intractable depression, anxiety, PTSD, OCD, all that kind of stuff.

01:25:08.000 The same thing that psychedelics were doing.

01:25:11.000 So you also, who is it?

01:25:13.000 Salvador Dali, somebody said, do you take drugs?

01:25:15.000 And he said, I am drugs.

01:25:18.000 You just have to know how to access it.

01:25:19.000 Like we produce it.

01:25:21.000 So now it's like, is there, drugs is such a harsh word, but is there a real purpose to alter your consciousness?

01:25:29.000 If we get into such like biases and like rigid thinking, is it healthy to break ourselves out in a healthy way,

01:25:36.000 not too often, because that could lead to its own addiction

01:25:39.000 or messiah complex, but you know, is it healthy to break ourselves out of rigid thinking

01:25:45.000 and then come back, integrate back into normal life?

01:25:48.000 What if there was a way to actually focus your mind into mass-producing DMT, to access blasting off or breaking through the veil completely on your own, just through Training and exercise and practice visualizations and you guys have seen Doctor Strange the movie negative when so doctor So he's like, you know, his hands are all messed up and he's trying to find a cure and he goes to Commer ties and he meets the ancient one and she grabs his head and then all sudden he blasts off and he's like flying through space and

01:26:20.000 What if there was a way to train yourself because your body does produce DMT and you mentioned this guy who does his breathing technique.

01:26:26.000 What if he's like, it's like rudimentary access to this ability to like control yourself.

01:26:32.000 And what if humans actually could reach that point through training and meditation to actually be able to experience DMT trips just by thought?

01:26:40.000 I really think that governments are already doing that.

01:26:43.000 I've seen in Russia, I've seen in China, I've also seen in the United States documentation from the Department of the Army, I think it was 1983, where they were looking at what's called, from the Monroe Institute, The Gateway Experience.

01:27:01.000 It's called The Gateway Experience.

01:27:02.000 I have this documentation where they're like, we really need to understand hypnosis and the power of focusing the body and the mind at the same time and how you can remote view telepathy, telekinesis, metasteric goats, right?

01:27:14.000 So that's definitely an aspect of it.

01:27:17.000 But beyond that, we know that remote viewers help in criminal cases.

01:27:22.000 Is that true?

01:27:23.000 That sounds crazy.

01:27:25.000 No, no.

01:27:25.000 I mean, look it up.

01:27:26.000 I mean, it's not something that I personally have the documentation on.

01:27:31.000 So, remote viewers helping solve crimes.

01:27:35.000 They have been brought in.

01:27:36.000 They have been brought to help.

01:27:37.000 And, you know, you can't prove, but it seems like they have actually helped.

01:27:43.000 That there's actually been some cases that were solved.

01:27:47.000 And there's this guy, something Campbell, I want to say Tom Campbell, My Big Toe, he wrote, and he teaches people how to do remote viewing.

01:27:57.000 I got an article about, in 1979, half a dozen psychics working inside Fort Meade were, on more than 200 occasions, trying to peer through the ether to see where the hostages in the Iranian crisis were being held.

01:28:09.000 Was it successful?

01:28:10.000 I don't know.

01:28:12.000 I'd have to read the whole thing.

01:28:13.000 I've even heard of local crimes, like kidnappings and stuff like that, where a remote viewer was brought in.

01:28:22.000 I'll have to check that out more.

01:28:23.000 But I do know that governments have been studying this.

01:28:26.000 They at least want to know.

01:28:29.000 And I absolutely believe that the reason why we're having major universities looking at psychedelics and things like that is because we...

01:28:38.000 The Wim Hof, you know, the super soldiers in China and stuff like that, a lot of it does have to do with the mind.

01:28:43.000 And Wim Hof, what did he repurpose?

01:28:46.000 You know, now I have to give all the credit to Wim Hof because no one was talking about Tumo or different like yogic breaths and stuff like that.

01:28:54.000 But there was a whole, like yoga is one of the longest lasting disciplines, movement disciplines, and they focus their body and their mind with breath.

01:29:02.000 If I told you that through legitimate, real yoga, not like, you know, suburban housewife yoga, a man could live for 200 years, would you believe it?

01:29:14.000 I would, and I've heard enough stories of it.

01:29:16.000 I was gonna bring this up, I was waiting.

01:29:17.000 I was like, I'll bring it up in a second, because I knew a guy, he was a Hare Krishna.

01:29:21.000 And he was telling me stories about what yoga really is.

01:29:24.000 He was, like, kind of perturbed. 0.99

01:29:25.000 He was like, I'm really angry that all of these, like, suburban housewives are treating yoga like it's just stupid exercise, man. 0.99

01:29:30.000 It's, like, spiritual. 1.00

01:29:31.000 It's what you eat.

01:29:32.000 It's what you live.

01:29:32.000 It's what you experience.

01:29:34.000 And he goes, I'm telling you, man, in India, there are yogis who are 200 years old.

01:29:39.000 And I said, get out of here, dude.

01:29:41.000 That's no, there's no way.

01:29:42.000 Come on, man.

01:29:43.000 And he was like, I'm telling you, man, they go up to the mountains and they meditate and they do yoga and they live for hundreds of years.

01:29:49.000 And I don't, I don't believe it.

01:29:51.000 I didn't believe it.

01:29:52.000 I don't want to say I do believe it now, but when I, this was a long time ago, I was like 18.

01:29:57.000 I started reading about caloric deprivation.

01:29:59.000 Are you familiar?

01:30:00.000 So we've extended, we've like doubled the lifespan of what mice by just giving them the bare minimum of food they would need.

01:30:07.000 And I read this really great quote.

01:30:08.000 They were like, it was like a scientist who said, it's remarkable.

01:30:11.000 We've doubled the lifespan of the average mouse, though I wouldn't call it living.

01:30:17.000 Because basically, the mouse was being just from the brink of starvation.

01:30:21.000 But because of that, the mouse lived for a long time.

01:30:23.000 They did it with worms and other animals. 0.99

01:30:25.000 So when I saw that, I started thinking, like, what if this guy was telling the truth, that there's like some yogis, and because all they do all day is just sit, and they barely eat, they eat just enough, and they do nothing but meditate, as he described, well, that just sounds like caloric deprivation.

01:30:40.000 And perhaps they could live to be much, much longer, because they're literally not doing anything other than living within their own mind.

01:30:47.000 Yeah.

01:30:47.000 Have you heard that mice with a much faster metabolism and higher heart rate have roughly the same exact amount of breaths and heartbeats as an elephant does?

01:30:59.000 1.5 million.

01:31:01.000 Really?

01:31:02.000 1.5 million.

01:31:02.000 So maybe... Isn't that true?

01:31:03.000 Is it the same for humans too?

01:31:05.000 I would imagine.

01:31:06.000 I would imagine.

01:31:06.000 And there's this book by Greg Braden.

01:31:09.000 I'm forgetting.

01:31:09.000 I have it in my phone.

01:31:11.000 But basically, he was talking about longevity, and he was saying there's this one guy in China, and it's on the books.

01:31:19.000 The Chinese military celebrated his 100th birthday, 150th birthday, and 200th birthday, and he had like 200-something children, 14 wives.

01:31:31.000 And so it's documented.

01:31:34.000 And what he said, and this was in a Greg Braden book, I wish I could remember the dude's name, but when they were asking him, like, what is your secret?

01:31:42.000 He said, I only eat medicinal plants from my own property.

01:31:46.000 And he was a Tai Chi master.

01:31:49.000 He does Tai Chi.

01:31:50.000 So these are movement practices of slowing the breath down, but becoming more efficient.

01:31:53.000 Because when you hear about breath practice, you're like, oh, you need to breathe a lot.

01:31:56.000 Actually, when you learn how to breathe correctly, you breathe less and your body is more efficient.

01:32:03.000 And so there's got to be something to that.

01:32:05.000 But then there's also amazing technology that's doing things with longevity.

01:32:09.000 And I believe there's something with technology and psychedelics, I believe, are just helping people understand our own potential.

01:32:16.000 And there's this technology, I think I was telling you about it earlier.

01:32:20.000 Ebner and Schorsch, so that's E-B-N-E-R, and these are German scientists, they put basically fern seeds, corn seeds, and then rainbow trout eggs under an electrostatic field.

01:32:35.000 So this is the same kind of effect that right before a thunderstorm you would get, but 10,000 volts.

01:32:41.000 And then they planted the seeds and hatched those eggs.

01:32:44.000 The wood fern had a phenotype, meaning the way its genes expressed itself, expressed itself like a fern that has been extinct for 150 million years.

01:32:55.000 And I'm trying to think of the name of the article, but it was something about like high voltage something causes for gene regression back into an extinct phenotype.

01:33:05.000 The same thing with the corn, where corn now, because of selective breeding, only one ear comes off of any node.

01:33:11.000 They were starting to get five ears off of every node, which is how corn used to be back before the selective breeding.

01:33:18.000 The rainbow trout was the most interesting one.

01:33:20.000 It was more stocky, it had a broader jaw, better color, it didn't need antibiotics, and it resembled a rainbow trout that's been extinct for 150 years.

01:33:31.000 So maybe what was really happening all that long time ago was electrostatic storms or something?

01:33:37.000 Maybe.

01:33:37.000 I mean, like, there's something about the regression of genes, though, back into extinct species.

01:33:42.000 And, like, I don't exactly know how that would relate.

01:33:45.000 So for that, my understanding is that chickens, for instance, there was, I watched where they said, like, they could actually grow teeth in chickens by injecting an enzyme into, like, when it's, like, in the egg in an embryo or whatever.

01:33:57.000 And it's because at some point in the evolutionary process, the chicken stopped producing this enzyme.

01:34:04.000 And then, you know, what came first, chicken or the egg?

01:34:06.000 But the new evolution was that the enzyme was less, so the teeth didn't happen.

01:34:12.000 And so by reintroducing it, the code for that still exists.

01:34:16.000 It's just not being expressed.

01:34:18.000 Yeah.

01:34:18.000 It's interesting.

01:34:19.000 It's crazy stuff.

01:34:20.000 Totally.

01:34:21.000 And there's something about that.

01:34:24.000 How much hybrid creatures do you think militaries with black budgets are working on? 0.98

01:34:30.000 Oh, I bet they've gone nuts. 0.89

01:34:32.000 The Chimeras. 0.95

01:34:33.000 Yeah.

01:34:34.000 So there's a video, and I'll send you guys the link of it.

01:34:38.000 It's this woman named Ulrike Granocher.

01:34:41.000 She's German.

01:34:43.000 She was really into the work, the Russian scientist of Peter Gayaev.

01:34:47.000 She did this for the SolariReport.com, and it was this video where she showed there was this, I think it was a Japanese guy, and he used this dodecahedron-shaped cauldron.

01:34:58.000 And so he took the genetic vibratory imprint of ducks and he irradiated a chicken egg with it.

01:35:07.000 And that chicken egg, once hatched, started having features of the duck.

01:35:11.000 And he reversed it and did the same thing the other way around.

01:35:15.000 So like, I mean, I don't know where that's gone, but you know they didn't just, you know governments around the world didn't just go, oh that's interesting, let's just forget it.

01:35:22.000 You were talking about ghost, what was it, ghost DNA?

01:35:25.000 How did you?

01:35:26.000 Well, it's the phantom DNA experiment.

01:35:27.000 That was Peter Gagaev, where he put DNA into a vacuum tube, They irradiated it with photons, with a laser.

01:35:34.000 Those photons then aligned themselves to the double helix structure.

01:35:38.000 Then they removed the DNA, they removed the glass beaker, everything from there, and they looked at that same spot, and the photons were stuck in place for a month.

01:35:48.000 So the photons, these tiny particles of light, were still stuck and they call that the phantom DNA experiment.

01:35:54.000 Iona and Alan Miller said this can only be explained by wormholes.

01:35:59.000 What?

01:36:00.000 So the DNA apparently has microscopic wormholes that brings in its vibratory informational imprint from either outside of space-time or elsewhere in the galaxy.

01:36:10.000 Beyond the veil.

01:36:12.000 Beyond the Veil. Well, I would love to know what's beyond the veil, but how about we take some super

01:36:16.000 chats and we'll ask the people what they think lies beyond the veil. Don't forget to smash that

01:36:20.000 like button, subscribe at the notification bell, and go to timcast.com, become a member,

01:36:24.000 because we always have those amazing exclusive members-only segments that will be up, sometimes

01:36:29.000 even full episodes. But again, smash the like button, let's read what y'all guys have to say.

01:36:33.000 Oilers Workshop says, How have you not talked about Bill Gates being the largest owner of

01:36:39.000 farmland in the U.S.?

01:36:40.000 yet?

01:36:41.000 Also, I make hyper real miniatures.

01:36:42.000 Hit me up.

01:36:42.000 Yay.

01:36:43.000 We have.

01:36:44.000 Yeah.

01:36:44.000 Luke won't shut up about it.

01:36:45.000 Seriously.

01:36:46.000 Luke's like, you guys, Bill Gates bought all the farms.

01:36:48.000 We're like, we know Luke.

01:36:50.000 Now he's on vacation, I guess.

01:36:51.000 So if you guys are mad that Luke's not here, just tweet at him.

01:36:53.000 Go to Florida.

01:36:53.000 Yeah, go to Florida.

01:36:55.000 Tweet at him and say, what are you doing?

01:36:58.000 Let's see.

01:36:58.000 Viva La Tortu says, Tim, did you see Glenn Beck's video yesterday about banks starting to use ESGs, basically social credit systems, to determine your credit worthiness?

01:37:09.000 Ooh, creepy.

01:37:10.000 Your credit worthiness?

01:37:11.000 Yeah.

01:37:12.000 This is really, really great.

01:37:13.000 When you mentioned William Casey.

01:37:15.000 I knew that someone had a super chat already.

01:37:17.000 Right when we started the show, Enlightened Worm said, William Casey, CIA director, 1981-1987, quote, will know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.

01:37:30.000 And then he mentions Brennan, but I'm not going to read what he said about him, but yeah.

01:37:34.000 Not complimentary.

01:37:35.000 Make 1984 fiction again says, says give Ian the keys for this one.

01:37:40.000 Oh yeah, I mean, absolutely.

01:37:42.000 Code Red says studio upgrade recommendation.

01:37:44.000 Create a lab space for Ian in his area so we can do experiments during the show live and get him a lab coat.

01:37:49.000 Spin the gorilla.

01:37:50.000 He needs a lab coat for sure.

01:37:52.000 Yeah, we can't spin the gorilla.

01:37:55.000 Softshell Crab says, what do you all think is causing the increase in gas prices?

01:37:58.000 That one's easy.

01:37:59.000 It's Keystone Pipeline getting shut down.

01:38:01.000 Because Keystone got shut down, there are speculators who believe the cost of oil is going to rise.

01:38:06.000 So that creates demand, which causes the cost of oil to rise.

01:38:11.000 And then everyone else has to pay the price for it.

01:38:13.000 Self-fulfilling prophecy.

01:38:16.000 Tbrat says, this has been bothering for a while.

01:38:19.000 After the months of riding and the hundreds of police cruisers that were destroyed, how many of those squad cars had a service rifle long gun still in the car, and how many didn't get destroyed but were taken?

01:38:28.000 That's a good question, man.

01:38:30.000 Yes, we'll find out.

01:38:32.000 No idea.

01:38:33.000 Enlightened Worm says, I loved the fourth turning.

01:38:35.000 Scary, but enlightening.

01:38:37.000 You know that there was a, there's another researcher, Vice interviewed him in 2010.

01:38:41.000 I think they interviewed him in 2010.

01:38:42.000 And he said, by 2020, there will be major conflict.

01:38:46.000 It will be a crisis.

01:38:47.000 There'll be violence in the streets.

01:38:48.000 And he went into detail.

01:38:50.000 And then Vice wrote a follow-up.

01:38:52.000 They were like, 10 years ago, we talked to this guy and he was right.

01:38:56.000 That's crazy stuff, man.

01:38:57.000 A lot of people have predicted this.

01:39:00.000 Alright, TheGodPill says, AMC and GME will become the new and only valuable currency on the market after this crash.

01:39:07.000 Shame on Tim Pool and his gang for not having a larger voice in the last 30 days of war.

01:39:11.000 Doesn't matter, we made it to the finish line.

01:39:13.000 God is good.

01:39:13.000 It's never too late to join.

01:39:15.000 I thought about how funny it would be if, like, currency after the crisis is GameStop stock, because people are buying it like crazy as a meme.

01:39:23.000 And then you have to wonder, like, If the stocks are, uh, you know, essentially unique per item, you know, each stock is unique.

01:39:33.000 It won't be recreated unless there's like the corporate board or whatever.

01:39:36.000 If people are holding the physical stock certificate, the company's wiped out and everything's over.

01:39:41.000 And it's like, people are trading these stock certificates.

01:39:43.000 It would function no different than a fiat, right?

01:39:46.000 So theoretically we could have a GameStop stock backed economy.

01:39:51.000 True.

01:39:52.000 Wouldn't they stand to lose, like, $70 billion?

01:39:55.000 Was it something like that?

01:39:56.000 The hedge funders?

01:39:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:39:58.000 I think they did lose $70 billion or something like that.

01:40:01.000 Oh, they did?

01:40:02.000 Maybe not that much.

01:40:02.000 I don't know.

01:40:03.000 OK.

01:40:03.000 It's been a while.

01:40:04.000 Yeah.

01:40:05.000 Eric Miller says, history does rhyme.

01:40:07.000 Check out the similarities between Trump and Teddy Roosevelt and the similarities between Woodrow Wilson and Biden.

01:40:12.000 I'll tell you, man, I have a fear that Biden is basically like our Buchanan. 1.00

01:40:19.000 He's going to be a very weak and pathetic president. 0.98

01:40:21.000 I think you brought this up before, Ian. 1.00

01:40:23.000 Trump was this very bombastic and loud president.

01:40:26.000 We're now in the Biden era where he's not doing a press conference, he's not doing an address to the joint session of Congress.

01:40:33.000 Gas prices are going up.

01:40:35.000 He's saying, we're not going to get you the checks that we promised you.

01:40:37.000 It's not going to be two grand.

01:40:38.000 It's going to be $1,400.

01:40:39.000 Oh, now it's going to be means tested.

01:40:41.000 Biden is actually going to give money to less people than Donald Trump did.

01:40:45.000 And Democrats are like, what is this?

01:40:47.000 So what happens when four years of Biden completely demoralizes the populist left?

01:40:52.000 Trump comes back swinging hard.

01:40:55.000 And then wins.

01:40:56.000 And then you get the crisis period where the establishment media is screaming the end is nigh, the terrorist is a president or whatever.

01:41:04.000 And then you just get that period between 2024 and 2028.

01:41:06.000 That's exactly it, dude.

01:41:07.000 That's crazy.

01:41:07.000 2028 2028 exactly it did that's crazy the last president

01:41:13.000 Yeah, and then we come we become a woke ocracy A wokeocracy. 0.98

01:41:18.000 I'll be alright because, you know, I'm not white, and Luke will be alright because he's Slavic, so he's not white either, but you guys, you're all screwed. 1.00

01:41:25.000 I'm white. 0.99

01:41:25.000 I'm 100% Japanese. 0.99

01:41:27.000 I don't know if you guys noticed.

01:41:29.000 I couldn't tell.

01:41:31.000 The Woodrow Wilson thing concerns me because he was like, I guess, pretty much agreed upon he was the worst president of all time.

01:41:38.000 Ben Shapiro breaks down what he thinks about the presidents and he put Woodrow at the very bottom.

01:41:43.000 He's the guy that got us tangled up with the Federal Reserve and basically sold us out.

01:41:46.000 Most fascist US president.

01:41:49.000 If Biden's like that, I'm terrified. 0.97

01:41:50.000 Who?

01:41:51.000 Al Gore.

01:41:51.000 Oh yeah, Al Gore.

01:41:53.000 He's so bad he couldn't even get elected.

01:41:55.000 Alright, Sonny James says, did you ever research the Cosmic Treaty of Versailles?

01:42:00.000 Mars had no craters to explain the xenon levels on Mars.

01:42:03.000 Thermonuclear war is the only thing that can explain that.

01:42:06.000 Please watch the Secret Space Program channel.

01:42:08.000 Mind-blowing.

01:42:09.000 Solari report good too.

01:42:11.000 That stuff's always fun.

01:42:12.000 I don't know a lot about it though, but...

01:42:14.000 Catherine Austin Fitz is the one with the Solari report, and she gets into the black budget.

01:42:19.000 She was in the Bush administration.

01:42:21.000 She was, I think, doing HUD or something like that, so she knows what's up.

01:42:25.000 You know, I'll tell you what I think happened to Mars really quick.

01:42:27.000 You know the Marianas Trench, that giant scar across the surface of Mars?

01:42:31.000 It looks like an external planetoid.

01:42:32.000 The Marianas Trench?

01:42:32.000 No, that's in the Earth.

01:42:33.000 What's the giant?

01:42:36.000 1800 mile trench, it looks like a scar across the planet.

01:42:39.000 I think another planetoid body hit Mars, collided and scraped across it, ripped it open, it fired magma up into the atmosphere, which then all the rust in the iron, you know, the iron peppered down back to the surface and then rusted.

01:42:51.000 And now we've got this layer of iron dust all over the surface, like the guts of the planet.

01:42:55.000 And underneath that is ocean.

01:42:56.000 Beautiful frozen ocean.

01:42:57.000 We all know that an invasive parasitic species invaded Mars and killed off the Martians about a thousand years ago and there were several centuries of revolt and then it was only after, you know, astronauts from Earth went to Mars and unleashed the parasitic race that they came to Earth and then Superman, Batman had to form the Justice League and rescue the Martian Manhunter to stop the parasites.

01:43:15.000 You're forgetting about the creatures inside the sun that shot a laser beam inside of Mars first I'm actually referencing the Justice League.

01:43:23.000 We should make a Justice League joke.

01:43:25.000 Yeah, we should.

01:43:27.000 Yeah, you're the producer.

01:43:27.000 All right.

01:43:29.000 So this is interesting.

01:43:29.000 The Grizzly says Gettysburg had Gatling guns.

01:43:32.000 They were in use throughout the first American Civil War in the 1860s.

01:43:36.000 Okay.

01:43:36.000 Oh, well, there you go.

01:43:38.000 Nick Sweeney says the Civil War superweapon was rifling.

01:43:41.000 It made guns accurate and was why Gettysburg was tragic.

01:43:46.000 TheGodpill says, GME diamond hands, AMC rocket, hedgies give me more tendies.

01:43:51.000 I certainly hope so.

01:43:53.000 Best wishes to all of you with diamond hands.

01:43:57.000 Kira13 says, Tim and Co been subscribed to your page ever since it came up.

01:44:01.000 Where's my Alex Jones face t-shirt?

01:44:04.000 Tim and Ian having full-on fights is amazing.

01:44:06.000 Great you're respecting each other's POV.

01:44:08.000 Ian's def a commie.

01:44:10.000 Hey, I just want to give a shout-out.

01:44:11.000 I was going to do this anyway.

01:44:13.000 I'm not communist, but you can get a copy of our pillow, if you'd like.

01:44:16.000 Go to TimCast.com, click shop, and you can buy your very own Our Pillow.

01:44:21.000 See, we crossed out the my in it, and there's a communist revolution fist holding the pillow.

01:44:26.000 Beautiful.

01:44:26.000 I hope you like it.

01:44:27.000 It's our pillow.

01:44:28.000 It's nice.

01:44:29.000 It's a good pillow.

01:44:29.000 It's not a good pillow, but it's our pillow.

01:44:33.000 All right, check it out.

01:44:33.000 That's right.

01:44:34.000 Blue Collar says, Colt Navy Revolver carried by Buffalo Bill to his death was cap and ball pistol.

01:44:39.000 Also, I think the only actual recorded high noon shootout in Wild West shot opponent 50 yards in the heart.

01:44:45.000 Amazing.

01:44:46.000 Yeah, they used dueling pistols.

01:44:46.000 Wow.

01:44:47.000 They were like single load, you know, whatever.

01:44:50.000 It's crazy.

01:44:51.000 Gun history is really amazing.

01:44:52.000 What the craziest thing about guns is how long they had them.

01:44:56.000 And it took hundreds of years to refine them to the point where they like developed a cartridge.

01:45:00.000 It's like they were using the first gun I think was like 1340 or something.

01:45:04.000 long time ago and then it was just hundreds of years of like stuffing powder into a metal tube and then was it you know flintlock steel manufacturing that allowed them to like maintain the heat industrial revolution yeah so basically that's my understanding all of a sudden they could easily refine mass produce interchangeable parts all that stuff And then all of a sudden they were like, look at all this crazy stuff we invented.

01:45:27.000 The fourth industrial revolution, which is all about automating.

01:45:31.000 Yep, machines automating themselves.

01:45:32.000 Actually, I've mentioned this.

01:45:33.000 Oh, sorry, someone pointed out the ironclad.

01:45:36.000 I completely forgot about that.

01:45:37.000 Oh, the ironclad.

01:45:38.000 One of my favorite quotes, I learned this from civilization, is I think it was Napoleon.

01:45:44.000 He said, you mean to sail against the wind by lighting a bonfire under the deck?

01:45:47.000 I have no time for such nonsense.

01:45:48.000 That was Civ 4, right?

01:45:50.000 Was that Civ 4?

01:45:51.000 It was in all of the Civil War.

01:45:52.000 Leonard Nimoy went... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:54.000 I have no time for such nonsense.

01:45:55.000 Napoleon also said... Lighting a bonfire under the deck.

01:45:58.000 Napoleon also said China is a sleeping giant and the world will quake when she awakes.

01:46:03.000 Wow. 0.98

01:46:04.000 Crazy.

01:46:05.000 Just Revenant says directed energy satellite weapons.

01:46:08.000 Lasers they can shoot from space to change weather patterns or detonate fires.

01:46:12.000 Look it up.

01:46:13.000 Oh, I believe it, man.

01:46:14.000 Because we've actually seen the IR lasers they already have been working on for the past couple decades.

01:46:19.000 It's really amazing footage you can watch, where they have this gigantic laser, a massive lens, and it just points at a drone, and then boom, it bursts into flames and then crashes.

01:46:29.000 If they're publicly announcing they have this, they must have had it for a very long time.

01:46:33.000 Well, there was a Fox News article, I think it was April of 2020, when the Pentagon was asking for something like $120 million to start putting particle beam weaponry on satellites in outer space.

01:46:47.000 So I mean, that was just 120 million that they asked for.

01:46:50.000 Strangely enough.

01:46:51.000 Yeah.

01:46:52.000 But, but like, I mean, I believe they already have it on there or had it on there, but you know, particle beam weaponry on satellites and that was, um, violating the outer space treaty, something like that.

01:47:03.000 But there's like loopholes with that.

01:47:05.000 Same thing as DARPA wanting to put bases on the moon and, and be able to use the moon for resources.

01:47:11.000 That's also violating the outer space treaty, but there's been people forever saying like, there's definite ways to find loopholes around this.

01:47:18.000 Yeah, so.

01:47:19.000 Bublius the Good says, good job covering the fourth turning.

01:47:21.000 Doesn't get covered enough.

01:47:22.000 You should have Harrison Smith as a right-leaning libertarian and Jackson Hinckley as a very left anti-corruption activist on.

01:47:29.000 Would be a very interesting show.

01:47:30.000 Well, we'll look into it.

01:47:32.000 Black Lion Grunt says, Tim, check out the map of the US in Cyberpunk 2077.

01:47:36.000 Maybe a glimpse of the future.

01:47:38.000 Interesting.

01:47:39.000 Will do.

01:47:40.000 Nick Sweeney says, All of this sounds like the Hebrew people's exile in the desert after their enslavement in Egypt.

01:47:46.000 They were there for 40 years, which was the average lifespan.

01:47:50.000 Interesting.

01:47:53.000 Right.

01:47:53.000 Ryan Ventura says, Ben, have you kept up with what Erdogan has been doing in Turkey and how he is positioning himself to become the revived Ottoman Caliphate in 2023?

01:48:03.000 No, I haven't.

01:48:04.000 That sounds amazing.

01:48:06.000 I don't know if there was something specific to your career as to why they asked you that.

01:48:10.000 Okay, well, there you go.

01:48:11.000 The revived Caliphate.

01:48:13.000 Interesting.

01:48:15.000 Man, we didn't even talk about the massive 4,000-year-old, along the Silk Road, vats of drugs with opium, poppy, cannabis, and ephedra that was shipped along the Silk Road.

01:48:31.000 Drugs that go back thousands of years.

01:48:34.000 Very, very much so implemented and where that was shipped as well.

01:48:38.000 It's amazing how the history books have just written drugs out and they make it sound like we evolved without it.

01:48:43.000 For real, dude.

01:48:44.000 People were doing drugs like crazy.

01:48:45.000 The anointing oil.

01:48:46.000 There's this guy, Chris Bennett, really good author.

01:48:48.000 He's saying the anointing oil, there was cannabis in it.

01:48:51.000 A lot of the major religions started with cannabis as being like a major part of the, even the tree of life, some called it.

01:48:58.000 The cannabis, all these visions that they had, the anointing of Christ, how you commune with God in the altar, the smoke that came from the... So you're saying that, like, the apple of the tree was actually a nug, and it was like, don't smoke that!

01:49:12.000 You smoked it!

01:49:13.000 Or some kind of psychedelic, Graham Hancock says.

01:49:15.000 And then you know too much!

01:49:16.000 Yeah.

01:49:16.000 Whoa.

01:49:17.000 What's going on?

01:49:18.000 Knowledge of good and evil.

01:49:20.000 All right. 0.98

01:49:20.000 Lisa Sybil Disobey says, Tim, I like your podcast, but a lot of your audience sounds like a bunch of angry, bitter old dolts. 0.98

01:49:26.000 No better than the purple haired feminists that are always bashing. 1.00

01:49:29.000 Maybe their own nag attitudes are why they're alone. 0.99

01:49:32.000 I would like to recommend something.

01:49:34.000 First, smash that like button.

01:49:35.000 Second, Flash Gits has this really hilarious bit about a feminazi. 0.82

01:49:41.000 And the best thing, the funniest part is when, so it's basically this feminist, she's really annoying and she's like always offended by everything. 1.00

01:49:48.000 And then it ends with like her at a protest where she's smashing a cop car.

01:49:52.000 And then all of a sudden, men's rights activists show up and they're like, men's rights activists!

01:49:57.000 And then the men's rights guy goes, we want our fortunes back!

01:50:00.000 And then they start fighting.

01:50:01.000 And I'm just like, that was some of the best writing ever.

01:50:05.000 All right.

01:50:05.000 So good.

01:50:07.000 Beerstar says, at the end of the Civil War, the ironclad ship was invented, the proto-battleship, which was the dominant weapon until World War II and the aircraft carrier.

01:50:16.000 That's right.

01:50:17.000 Was that late civilization?

01:50:18.000 East India Corporation?

01:50:20.000 Was that how they started dominating as pirates?

01:50:23.000 You know, I think that was physics.

01:50:25.000 When Isaac Newton developed physics and the ability for long-range cannonry is when the English basically dominated and started capitalizing the globe. I know that once the Silk Road was 0.95

01:50:34.000 kind of cut off and high tariffs and stuff like that, basically I think it was the English and

01:50:38.000 the Dutch started using the long way around and using ships, but they became the first 0.99

01:50:43.000 pirates with these heavily armored ships, and they would just bang the crap out of India. Then you 1.00

01:50:49.000 might be, could the ironclads might have been used? I didn't know.

01:50:52.000 I don't know much about that.

01:50:53.000 That's nuts.

01:50:54.000 Best Auntie Ever says info from a friend who works for Bonneville Power Admin.

01:50:58.000 Protests are planned for March 6th in Portland, Seattle, Olympia, Oregon, Oregon Coast, and

01:51:02.000 Eugene.

01:51:03.000 Violence anticipated.

01:51:04.000 Can't even imagine what the hell they're protesting now.

01:51:07.000 I mean, they're always protesting, so, you know.

01:51:11.000 Oh, Libra! 0.99

01:51:12.000 Yeah, that was Facebook's currency.

01:51:13.000 That's what you guys are saying.

01:51:13.000 Yeah.

01:51:14.000 Yeah.

01:51:14.000 Publis the Good says Libra was blocked because it would have given Facebook more power than the CIA or any state bank.

01:51:20.000 Essentially, they would have controlled all of the most important emerging fields of intelligence.

01:51:24.000 Makes sense.

01:51:25.000 I don't want Grand Emperor Zuckerberg.

01:51:27.000 No.

01:51:28.000 You don't?

01:51:28.000 We probably already have him.

01:51:30.000 He's probably already in charge of everything because he controls Facebook.

01:51:32.000 I don't know.

01:51:33.000 He seems like a nice guy.

01:51:35.000 Yeah, what could go wrong?

01:51:36.000 Yeah, nothing.

01:51:37.000 Now that I think about it, Zuckerberg is our friend.

01:51:39.000 He does seem nice.

01:51:39.000 Julius Caesar was great.

01:51:40.000 He says so.

01:51:41.000 He's a good dude.

01:51:42.000 He says so.

01:51:43.000 I love Mark Zuckerberg.

01:51:44.000 I'm shivering, not because it's cold up here.

01:51:49.000 My Facebook page got nuked by Facebook anyway.

01:51:51.000 Dude, I'll put a picture on Instagram and get 1,500 clicks, likes.

01:51:55.000 I'll put it on Facebook, I'll get seven.

01:51:58.000 I don't know what is wrong with that website.

01:51:59.000 There's only seven people on Facebook.

01:52:01.000 Either I'm on a blacklist or something.

01:52:03.000 We got a good one.

01:52:04.000 We got a good one.

01:52:05.000 T-Stomp says, Tim, you underestimate the internet.

01:52:08.000 It has corrupted every learning algorithm and turned them into swearing racists because people think it's funny.

01:52:14.000 Remember when it was like chatbot became super racist?

01:52:17.000 There was this, yeah, you remember that?

01:52:20.000 There was like an AI where you could talk to it and it would learn from the conversations.

01:52:23.000 And then eventually it just started being saying racial slurs and just really offensive because people thought it was funny and they had to like shut it down because people did that.

01:52:33.000 Was that the same one that said, because it was AI that said like, you know, Hitler did nothing wrong, something like that.

01:52:40.000 And they were just like, all right, scratch that, cut this thing off.

01:52:43.000 There were a couple of instances.

01:52:44.000 There was another one where they had AI talking to AI and it started communicating in a language they didn't understand.

01:52:49.000 So they pulled the plug on the whole operation.

01:52:50.000 Oh, it created its own language.

01:52:54.000 And it was talking to other AI in its own language.

01:52:57.000 Bill Burr started talking about that.

01:52:58.000 He was just like, Unplug that thing!

01:53:00.000 Unplug it!

01:53:01.000 She's like, yeah, that's the first thing you do is unplug it.

01:53:04.000 All right, here we go.

01:53:04.000 Dr. Doctor says, Ian, much love, buddy, but you're completely wrong about the concept of matrix.

01:53:10.000 Yes, they created a perfect matrix and people rejected it because they wanted conflict.

01:53:14.000 So the AI created a matrix that had conflict.

01:53:16.000 Mother Ayahuasca has danced for me before.

01:53:19.000 It was beautiful.

01:53:19.000 Oh, this guy's speaking the truth.

01:53:20.000 Interesting.

01:53:22.000 Mother Ayahuasca.

01:53:25.000 Till Hemmer says, an idea for the Our Pillow, an optional linen pillowcase that's definitely not just another burlap sack with Vladimir Lenin's face paper clipped on it.

01:53:34.000 Definitely.

01:53:34.000 You could get a pillowcase.

01:53:35.000 Yeah, we'll offer up a pillowcase edition and it's just another burlap sack.

01:53:39.000 Just stick the burlap sack in the other burlap sack.

01:53:41.000 There you go.

01:53:42.000 Deluxe.

01:53:43.000 Made out of human hair.

01:53:44.000 Special edition.

01:53:46.000 The God Pill says, check it out, I'm pretty sure I'm Jesus, no visions, no talks with God, but I'm taking this market crash and coming out on top.

01:53:53.000 I worked hard to know what I know, crypto going to zero with most other things, God is good, humans are amazing, sound of GameStop, AMC gang, and then he put a bunch of gorilla emojis.

01:54:02.000 He then goes on to say, life is easy, smoke weed, buy GME, eat tendies.

01:54:07.000 Just as long as whatever you're doing is legal.

01:54:08.000 That's right.

01:54:09.000 AnythingAboutTech says, Strauss and Hao argue we need crises to renew our society.

01:54:15.000 COVID being elevated to full crisis status undermines our ability to face and resolve our true crisis.

01:54:20.000 Globalists take over in China and we risk a dangerous civic order implanting wokeism. 0.89

01:54:26.000 I completely agree about wokeism coming soon, so.

01:54:30.000 Robert Miller says, Why do people think only humans can reach peaceful cooperation?

01:54:35.000 I'm anthropocentric to think- It's anthropocentric to think only we are special to reach that conclusion, as if alien races wouldn't reach the same logical conclusions.

01:54:44.000 Interesting.

01:54:46.000 It's gonna jump on us, because of what YouTube does with the superchats.

01:54:46.000 Alright, let's see.

01:54:49.000 Bees have done it. 1.00

01:54:51.000 Have done what?

01:54:52.000 Well, they just seem to have this kind of like hive mentality where they all agree on their task, ants do the same thing, and they'll keep going on until the queen dies, almost as if the queen is the wormhole.

01:55:05.000 What happens when the queen dies? 0.99

01:55:06.000 They don't know what to do.

01:55:08.000 And then they die?

01:55:08.000 As far as ants, no, like, as far as I know, they just, they kind of go into a chaos period.

01:55:14.000 Maybe they elect a new one, I don't know.

01:55:17.000 But it's almost as if, and they've speculated that the queen is the wormhole.

01:55:21.000 Like the DNA wormhole where all their information is coming from.

01:55:24.000 Because their queen can be captured and taken far away.

01:55:28.000 If it's alive, they'll keep doing their job.

01:55:30.000 Think about that one.

01:55:30.000 Wow.

01:55:31.000 Tobin Benson says, The Reality of ESP by Russell Targ.

01:55:34.000 Great book goes in depth into the CAA program and the MIT research into remote viewing and the keys on how to learn and develop the skill.

01:55:42.000 The book brings a different view on what consciousness is.

01:55:44.000 A good read.

01:55:46.000 Rob Graff says, a thousand people on any psychedelic drug except DMT, they will all have different experiences.

01:55:52.000 A thousand people on DMT and their experiences are eerily similar.

01:55:55.000 That's crazy, dude.

01:55:57.000 That's why I'm so fascinated by DMT, and I think most people are.

01:55:59.000 Because we're wondering now, are people actually breaking through some kind of dimensional barrier and seeing some kind of alternate reality or the real world?

01:56:09.000 That's what I'm thinking.

01:56:10.000 You were saying that you take it and it jazzes you up to something, but I was wondering if you take it and it actually slows you down so that you can experience reality.

01:56:20.000 And this is the fake.

01:56:22.000 This is the mask.

01:56:23.000 Space and time do not seem like they're the same thing in that realm.

01:56:26.000 So potentially the same place that the DNA, the wormhole draws its information from, maybe you're going outside space and time.

01:56:34.000 The quantum realm?

01:56:35.000 Look into Stuart Hameroff and Sir Roger Penrose saying that psychedelics bind with the tubulin and the microtubules and send your microtubules into quantum coherence, meaning it's resonating at Plank scale.

01:56:48.000 So you're probably shamans and people on psychedelics are picking up on patterns from the plank scale, which does not follow physics.

01:56:55.000 And it doesn't, you know, there's retrograde causality, there's non locality, which literally means not anywhere specific.

01:57:03.000 Yeah, not classical.

01:57:04.000 It's all potential, you know, rather than then.

01:57:06.000 I'm going to I'm going to say something that will make the audience mildly perturbed.

01:57:11.000 I had a conversation with a source of mine who told me about some coming technology that will melt people's brains when they hear about it.

01:57:19.000 But it's some crazy stuff.

01:57:20.000 It's crazy.

01:57:21.000 I can't say what it is, though.

01:57:22.000 Confidential sources.

01:57:23.000 I'm perturbed.

01:57:24.000 I know.

01:57:25.000 And now everyone's like, what is it?

01:57:26.000 I must know.

01:57:27.000 It's like, dude, it's crazy stuff.

01:57:29.000 All right.

01:57:29.000 Let's see.

01:57:31.000 Music CD music DC guy says about governments experimenting on animals look up the monkey men attacks in 2001 in Delhi

01:57:38.000 India People were attacked by a monkey the size of a man that 0.99

01:57:41.000 they say had metal claws and a metal helmet with lights Could yeah, I believe a cyborg monkey. I mean

01:57:48.000 how hard it would be to Inject a monkey with a bunch of crazy hormones and

01:57:53.000 chemicals and and manipulate its DNA to make it really really big

01:57:56.000 And surgically attach.

01:57:57.000 And then, you know, metal claws to it.

01:58:00.000 And then it breaks out of the facility and like you are planning on unleashing a bunch of gigantic monsters on your enemies.

01:58:06.000 And then it breaks out of your lab.

01:58:08.000 I bet they do all sorts of really nasty stuff.

01:58:12.000 Mitch Stew says, Ben Stewart, can we take a 23andMe to see if we are related?

01:58:16.000 I will rewatch this convo with greater intent.

01:58:18.000 I'm busy redpilling a girl that I've been talking to.

01:58:20.000 Ah, very important.

01:58:21.000 Very important work.

01:58:22.000 Let me just say, don't do 23andMe or Ancestry.

01:58:25.000 Ancestry was taken over 75% by Blackstone.

01:58:27.000 The rest is owned by China.

01:58:29.000 23andMe, I don't know where that data goes, but you just email me, ben at benjosephstewart.com.

01:58:34.000 Chris Crow says, best show I've watched from you guys this far.

01:58:39.000 Well, if you do think so, share this episode with all of your friends and tell them how awesome it is.

01:58:44.000 And make sure you go to timcast.com become a member because we're going to do a bonus episode.

01:58:47.000 I think we'll be talking about ghosts in outer space.

01:58:50.000 Yeah.

01:58:51.000 It's a little bit hyperbolic, but you'll, you know, you'll see.

01:58:55.000 Andy Mack says, did you guys get the table?

01:58:58.000 Yes, we did.

01:58:59.000 Oh my gosh.

01:59:00.000 That was neat.

01:59:01.000 Yeah.

01:59:03.000 All right, let's see.

01:59:06.000 Kara May says, I accidentally did DMT in the middle of my first semester of nursing school.

01:59:10.000 Needless to say, I was unveiled to the tyranny running the show and woke me up to mathematics.

01:59:17.000 How accidentally?

01:59:17.000 Interesting.

01:59:19.000 There's so much mathematics.

01:59:20.000 That's crazy.

01:59:21.000 I have many questions.

01:59:22.000 Yes, I'm perturbed.

01:59:22.000 And how accidentally?

01:59:24.000 Did you trip and fell onto the pipe?

01:59:26.000 Yeah, that's probably what it was.

01:59:27.000 Baka Fett says Starship Troopers 2021.

01:59:29.000 Well, we were just talking about that.

01:59:31.000 Yeah, we were just talking about that.

01:59:33.000 Insectoids.

01:59:34.000 Why are they doing?

01:59:35.000 And Doogie Howser, we have to, you know, shout out.

01:59:37.000 He hates it when you call him that, by the way.

01:59:38.000 Neil Patrick Harris, you call him.

01:59:40.000 NPH.

01:59:41.000 Shout out, Neil.

01:59:42.000 Bloodlust says, I hate to mention another channel on your stream, but check out Garden of Eden by LuciferMeansLightbringer.

01:59:49.000 Garden of Eden is most likely another steel fire from the god story, but instead the stolen fire is viewed as a sin, not as a good thing.

01:59:56.000 Hmm.

01:59:57.000 Interesting.

01:59:59.000 Dan Gingrich says the House just stealth passed H.R.

02:00:02.000 8 and H.R.

02:00:03.000 1, 4, 4, 6, and the mainstream media is completely quiet on it.

02:00:06.000 They're up to something really nasty this needs looking into.

02:00:08.000 I don't know what those bills are.

02:00:09.000 Oh, man.

02:00:10.000 You know what they are?

02:00:12.000 Can you just say H.R.

02:00:12.000 No.

02:00:13.000 1, Lydia?

02:00:15.000 1 is the voting bill.

02:00:15.000 H.R.

02:00:15.000 We were talking about H.R.

02:00:16.000 1.

02:00:16.000 It's about voting rights, and it's not good at all.

02:00:18.000 They're doing too much, in my opinion.

02:00:21.000 Yeah, they are.

02:00:22.000 All right, Isaac Hanshaw says, Hey Tim, I just quit my job and started the Liberty Initiative.

02:00:27.000 I would love to talk with you about it.

02:00:29.000 What is the best place to reach you at?

02:00:31.000 Who would have thought we live in a dystopia?

02:00:33.000 SpintheUFO at gmail.com.

02:00:35.000 I'll be good.

02:00:35.000 SpintheUFO at gmail.com.

02:00:37.000 Pass it on.

02:00:38.000 Julie Simone says, Hi guys, for some of the coolest recent science on anti-aging, check out David Sinclair.

02:00:44.000 He was on Rogan.

02:00:45.000 Maybe you guys can have him on the new show.

02:00:47.000 Ian will need his lab coat for this for sure.

02:00:50.000 I love David Sinclair.

02:00:51.000 He's out of Harvard, and they've been working with nicotinamide mononucleotide, NMN, resveratrol, and well, derived from berberine metformin, a type of diabetes medicine, in conjunction with intermittent fasting.

02:01:04.000 And they're getting incredible results out of animals, like life extension wise.

02:01:08.000 Pretty cool.

02:01:09.000 Well then, let's read a couple more.

02:01:10.000 We'll read a couple more.

02:01:12.000 Let's see.

02:01:15.000 Nathan Slatton says, MTG for life!

02:01:17.000 And I had to read that because, no, I don't play any of that.

02:01:20.000 I did get those Bob Ross lands, though.

02:01:22.000 So, Magic the Gathering unveiled Bob Ross land cards, and it is amazing.

02:01:27.000 I had to buy them.

02:01:27.000 I think mechanically the game is sound, but they've just gone nuts.

02:01:31.000 It's gone absolutely crazy.

02:01:32.000 Pay to play.

02:01:34.000 Let's see.

02:01:35.000 Psycho Dwarf says, I'm listening late.

02:01:37.000 Imagine a race that didn't develop mechanical joinery. 0.90

02:01:40.000 Everything in their tech is joined with adhesives.

02:01:44.000 That'd be really weird.

02:01:46.000 Super strong adhesives for like building a rocket, no mechanical jointing.

02:01:49.000 Might not work as well.

02:01:50.000 That'd be really, really weird.

02:01:53.000 Yeah.

02:01:53.000 Like a liquid metal?

02:01:54.000 I mean, if you live in a city, the cities are already dystopian, so, I don't know.

02:01:58.000 them maybe.

02:01:58.000 All right, Dan 9 ss.

02:02:01.000 Well, thank you for thoroughly depressing me.

02:02:02.000 Can you offer any hope?

02:02:04.000 No, I can't move to the middle of nowhere.

02:02:06.000 I mean if you live in a city, the cities are already dystopian.

02:02:11.000 So I don't know make the best of it.

02:02:12.000 I guess I don't know.

02:02:14.000 I think personally there's a lot of hope as crazy as all this stuff that's going on sounds.

02:02:20.000 I'll just say this.

02:02:21.000 When I was talking to a bunch of people, I even met with Aubrey Marcus and he found this to be the most fascinating part of it.

02:02:27.000 When everyone was saying like the 2020 crash is going to be the biggest.

02:02:32.000 What do I get into Bitcoin?

02:02:33.000 Do I, you know, get into the dollar?

02:02:35.000 Do I just buy a bunch of food?

02:02:37.000 You know, what do I do?

02:02:38.000 And every one of these thought leaders said community.

02:02:42.000 Every one of them said like, you know, community is the number one resource you're going to want to have because it will cover all those other bases.

02:02:49.000 So don't lose hope.

02:02:51.000 Yeah.

02:02:51.000 And bullets and bullets.

02:02:53.000 Yes.

02:02:53.000 Build your community.

02:02:54.000 All right.

02:02:55.000 Let's see.

02:02:55.000 We got a couple more.

02:03:00.000 They actually made a guy read all 628 pages on the COVID bill that hit the Senate today.

02:03:04.000 He's reading a hundred miles an hour and still going right now.

02:03:07.000 That sounds hilarious.

02:03:09.000 Ziptie says, around 1863, the CSA made the first ironclad by raising the USS Virginia and lining the outside with iron, the Merrimack.

02:03:18.000 The same year the Union made the first all-iron warship, the Monitor.

02:03:22.000 After their first battle, all other navies were obsolete.

02:03:26.000 That's amazing.

02:03:27.000 I remember hearing that they just shot at each other for hours and neither boat would sink.

02:03:31.000 I don't know if it was hours, but that's how the battle worked.

02:03:34.000 Simple Caleb says, Hey everyone, if you were 22 years old right now, what industry would you get into for work?

02:03:39.000 Would you do what you are doing now?

02:03:41.000 Would you pursue a new emerging market?

02:03:43.000 I have no idea what I'd be doing if I was 22 right now.

02:03:45.000 I know what I was doing when I was 22.

02:03:46.000 I think I was skateboarding and playing guitar on the subway.

02:03:52.000 You know what I would say?

02:03:53.000 I mean, everything that I've been looking at with where we're headed with reskilling and, you know, long gone are the days where you have a job for 30 years and then you retire.

02:04:03.000 You're just going to keep needing new jobs.

02:04:05.000 That's what the World Economic Forum is saying.

02:04:08.000 I would say, like, definitely moving digital.

02:04:11.000 Content, like online content is all, is definitely going to be in demand more and more and more.

02:04:16.000 So like, I mean, coding, yeah, for sure.

02:04:19.000 But I would say get into something that you're passionate about.

02:04:22.000 That'll make sure you have longevity and something with online content.

02:04:27.000 I am definitely biased because that's what I'm into, but it's, it's replicable.

02:04:31.000 You know, you, you can make one piece of content and replicate it a million times for free.

02:04:35.000 Yeah.

02:04:36.000 So, but definitely look in that direction.

02:04:38.000 Right on.

02:04:39.000 Or get into knitting.

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02:05:10.000 Ben, is there anything you want to mention?

02:05:11.000 Social media or any shows or anything you're doing?

02:05:13.000 Yeah, well, just go to benjosephstuart.com.

02:05:16.000 That's where I have my news channel.

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02:05:40.000 But just benjosephstewart.com.

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02:05:46.000 Beautiful.

02:05:47.000 Thank you so much for coming, Ben.

02:05:48.000 Thanks for having me.

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02:05:53.000 Happy to have you here.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - March 05, 2021

Timcast IRL - The "Fourth Turning" Predicts Societal Collapse Then "New World Order" w- Ben Stewart

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