On this week's episode of the Timestamps, the boys are joined by filmmaker Ben Stewart to talk about psychedelics, the 4th turning, and more. Plus, we have a special guest from the band Hyrosonic.
00:00:04.000you we were told today there was supposed to be some militia
00:00:35.000that was going to storm into DC and that they needed 5,000 National Guard
00:00:40.000troops to protect the capital because these militia conspiracy individuals
00:00:45.000believe that March 4th was the true inauguration day
00:00:49.000Apparently, they believe that the United States is a corporation, and that this corporation started with the 20th Amendment, and it's just, it's nonsensical.
00:00:57.000However, there has been a lot of talk about something called Strauss-Howe Generational Theory, and talk that we're entering the fourth turning, which basically predicts societal collapse, followed by, at least according to Business Insider, a New World Order, whatever that means.
00:01:13.000So we're just gonna riff on this stuff.
00:01:16.000Obviously, there was no militia storming DC, but yet they're still saying, we need National Guard to remain for two more months.
00:01:24.000Something weird is happening, and I think it's safe to say we are definitely in some kind of crisis period, which may be, I think this would be the fourth turning, I guess?
00:01:32.000Yeah, that would be the winter period.
00:02:45.000We were touring non-stop, and we did some really excellent shows, but it was just a strange time.
00:02:52.000And in the middle of it, I started deciding to make films, because people really liked the lyrics, and they were like, what's the message about?
00:02:59.000I was going to make a 15-minute film about the message of the band, and it turned into a two-hour documentary that had nothing to do with the band.
00:03:25.000Now we're going to talk about, it all does kind of come together I guess.
00:03:29.000You know, we normally like to do, like, here's some big news of the day, here's some cultural issue.
00:03:33.000But I think, you know, we're gonna have, like, a bigger picture conversation about where this might all be going, generational theory.
00:03:39.000But then there's also the... this is really interesting stuff, the studies into DMT, the extended state DMT stuff, where they're putting people on... you mentioned this earlier, putting people on DMT drips.
00:04:48.000So things are getting absolutely crazy.
00:04:50.000I mean, it was a wild and crazy day for censorship today.
00:04:52.000A lot of people think that Dr. Seuss stuff is silly, but they're now... eBay's banning people from even selling their existing Dr. Seuss books.
00:05:01.000So we are definitely in some kind of crisis.
00:05:03.000But yeah, like, if you own a Dr. Seuss book and you're like, I'm gonna sell it to Ian, and I put it up on eBay and Ian wants to buy it, they're saying, no, it's hate speech, it's offensive, you can't have it.
00:05:10.000They're gonna drive the price of those way up.
00:05:14.000So now you gotta go, like, hunt people down and try and get one, like, find them and, like, go on, yeah, black market quests.
00:05:19.000But this is a really good example of how insane everything is getting.
00:05:23.000And so, definitely go to TimCast.com, become a member.
00:05:25.000Let me start by showing you this article.
00:05:27.000And I do this with these articles specifically because I want to make sure everybody realizes we're not just pulling these things, you know, out of thin air.
00:05:36.000These are conversations that actually happen.
00:05:38.000These are articles that actually exist, and these are ideas that we did not come up with.
00:05:41.000Business Insider says a book published nearly 25 years ago predicted America would hit a great crisis, climaxing around 2020.
00:05:48.000And that up next is a Millennial vs. Boomer standoff that will usher in a new world order.
00:05:56.000They say America sees a turning every 20 years as one generation displaces another, and the dynamic between one particular generation entering elderhood and another entering young adulthood creates a crisis every 80 years, according to a theory prophesized in Neil Howe and William Strauss's The Fourth Turning.
00:06:14.000The authors wrote the next crisis era would start around 2005 and climax around 2020, and would involve millennials and boomers fighting over the shape of the world to come.
00:06:23.000There are some similarities between recent events and the book's predictions.
00:06:27.000The 2008 financial crisis can be seen as the catalyst they mentioned, and in 2020, and in early 2021, unrest has shaken the economy, politics, and the economy.
00:06:38.000It's unclear whether the fourth turning is how Enstrasse characterized it is really happening right now, but the parallels are certainly eye-catching.
00:06:48.000There's also Thucydides' trap, which suggests that whenever an economic power is about to displace the principal superpower, war breaks out.
00:06:56.000In the past 16 major instances, 12 times there has been very serious war.
00:07:02.000Many fear that we are now entering this period with China.
00:07:06.000I guess the bigger question is, if these academics predicted this was going to be the fourth turning, and we are going to enter in some catastrophic period, if people can see Thucydides' trap, are there efforts to prevent it?
00:07:18.000And before we go into the bigger discussion, I'll just point out, they say that the last 80-year period started just after World War II, right?
00:07:27.000Actually, why don't you explain what this means?
00:07:30.000Well, the whole thing, you know, so the fourth turning is the fourth season, that's the winter crisis.
00:07:35.000And, you know, so they call it a saeculum, which means a long life.
00:07:39.000This goes actually all the way back to the Etruscans prior to the Romans.
00:07:44.000But it starts, let's just say it starts in the spring with a high, and then it goes into an awakening, which would be the summer, and then the fall is called the unraveling, and then the winter is the crisis period, and it keeps turning.
00:07:58.000I heard a really good guy actually interviewing Neil Howe, I think it was, and he said, like, you know, if history doesn't repeat, it surely rhymes, because every single time these crisis periods come back around, they're not exactly the same, but they resemble each other, and there's core tenets to them that resemble one another.
00:08:16.000And yeah, they surely said, like, the book came out in 97.
00:08:21.000They said somewhere around 2005, give or take a couple years, there's gonna be an inciting incident.
00:08:27.000And if it comes later, it'll probably come at around 2008, right when two-thirds of the boomer generation, I think it was, would be eligible for their social security.
00:08:37.000So that was the housing collapse right there.
00:08:39.000And that would be an economic inciting incident that would lead into, and I wrote some things down, we can get to it later, but In chapter six of the book, The Fourth Turning, there's eerie, very eerie kinds of predictions that go right into what you could call now the winter period, the crisis period.
00:08:57.000And then Game of Thrones, they were like, winter is coming.
00:09:00.000But does that mean we're through the worst of it?
00:09:03.000We're on our way out towards this beautiful, utopian springtime?
00:09:08.000It's very interesting because in the book they said it won't be any shorter than 15 years, it won't be any longer than 20 years if history repeats in the same way.
00:09:20.000It's never gone any longer than 20 years.
00:09:23.000Because I think Neil Howe works in DC now and he advises people and he said somewhere around 2028 it should be concluded and that's when the next high will start.
00:09:35.000And if you think about it, the crisis is like a crunching period and anytime you come out of a crunch it feels like a high.
00:10:07.000Because apparently they also mention that in the book, the New Deal.
00:10:11.000Because they don't just talk about war, but for some reason when you go back 80-90 years, you look at World War II, Great Depression, 80-90 years before that, give or take some, Civil War before that, the last winter was the Revolution before that.
00:10:26.000Because they're talking mainly Anglo-Saxon history.
00:14:08.000Yeah, they also mentioned, and this is just in the book, I did a podcast on Kyle Kingsbury not too long ago, and I turned him on to the book, and then he hit me up.
00:14:39.000And so they they also give like what you would call a constellation like people born under certain like we would all be Millennials I imagine and so we're born during the unraveling and we've only known unraveling in crisis.
00:14:52.000I think I think he might be a Xennial Yeah, Generation Y, I was told growing up.
00:14:58.000No, Generation... Not quite X. Like, tail end of Generation X.
00:15:41.000Portable weapons, crashing a plane... A lot of this stuff, you know, I will say, we'd have to go into the book and... I'll tell you this, I didn't read the book.
00:15:49.000Maybe they say, here's a hundred things that we think will happen, and then you just cherry-pick the seven that are relevant to us and go, aha!
00:15:57.000So is it just like they threw a bunch of darts at the wall and said, we'll see what happens, and then we're cherry-picking?
00:16:01.000I'll tell you exactly what it is, because I was listening to it this morning.
00:16:05.000Everything I said, I didn't really leave out anything.
00:16:10.000If I might have left out anything, it would have been one thing.
00:16:13.000And this is all in, like, two paragraphs.
00:16:16.000And so, what they said was, right afterwards, they were like, likely none of these things will actually happen in this way, but the underlying tone will, things like this will happen.
00:16:29.000This will be the nature of things to happen.
00:16:31.000And so there wasn't much other than this.
00:16:36.000I just distilled it down a little bit.
00:16:39.000And then they went on to say, like, in a crisis period, if tensions keep rising and there is any spark of violence, it will likely lead to war.
00:16:48.000So I'm trying to use their words as much as possible.
00:16:51.000If it does lead to war, it's likely to end in total war.
00:16:55.000The enemy rendered nil, and afterwards one society dies, a new one is born, and basically there's no way to stop a winter period from coming.
00:17:06.000But do they think that the United States is going to enter a new spring?
00:17:12.000Or in that context, what if China crushes the United States and destroys our society?
00:17:16.000In that sense, what they would say, because they do say that it is possible for the United States to be the loser in this, and they're really talking mainly eccentric around the U.S.
00:17:27.000So when they do talk about this, they say that no matter what, the spring is also coming.
00:17:33.000So, spring will definitely come, but that's not really saying much for the losing side.
00:18:13.000But they were using percussion revolvers I think they were, man, I don't know a whole lot about guns, but I'm sure a lot of people are like, I'm surprised you know those things existed.
00:18:21.000They had these, I'm pretty sure they had percussion revolvers.
00:18:24.000Basically, you would load the charge, like, you know, what is it called?
00:18:56.000And, uh, they were selling to the Confeder- I think they were selling to the Confederates.
00:19:00.000And so they were giving them these percussion rifles.
00:19:02.000So that was, like, really revolutionary tech at the time.
00:19:04.000That you could carry around this loaded, you know, I think they had, what, eight shots, maybe?
00:19:09.000And so, coming from the muzzle-loaded era of just like, you know, stuffing the ball through the muzzle and then firing and then doing it again, all of a sudden these guys had small arms where they could go boom, boom, boom.
00:19:49.000Literally walking up to strangers on the street and being like, I need you to give me $100 right now.
00:19:53.000And I could make people sign over credit cards.
00:19:55.000It's really amazing when you consider there's a job where someone's standing in the street, greets a stranger, and then says, give me your credit card information right now and you will get nothing in return.
00:20:06.000That is the fundraiser's job when they do the street canvassing.
00:20:08.000What you're doing is you're selling them an idea.
00:20:10.000So it takes real persuasion and skills.
00:20:12.000I always tell people, you are not invincible.
00:20:21.000Not me so here's what I do whenever I explain to people I'll say I can make you say something and they'll say no you can't I can make you say something you don't even realize it I can make you say yeah, but not me want to bet and they'll be like what I'm not I won't say that And then I'll wait a minute or two and then I'll be like,
00:20:38.000let me explain to you how mind control manipulation works.
00:20:40.000I'll break down the basics of it and they'll go, yeah, but not me.
00:21:11.000You can break it down to, the guy at Coke wants to make 10 more dollars, and he's gonna do whatever he can to figure out how to get you to buy another Coke.
00:21:19.000But now you have this era where it's been so incredibly refined that big tech companies, they know what you think, they know why you're thinking it, they know what they want you to think, and they are absolutely stripping away the individuality through these networks.
00:21:34.000What's happening now is, whether intentionally or not, we cannot go outside, in big cities for the most part, mostly in blue areas.
00:21:42.000Can't go to bars, can't go to restaurants, gotta wear a mask.
00:21:44.000Hard to talk when you're wearing a mask.
00:23:31.000I guess that's up to these psychopaths, is what they're thinking.
00:23:34.000And I've listened to Putin talk about weapons of war and said that all this defense against intercontinental ballistic missiles has become null now.
00:23:40.000You can fire, like, orbital strike from... And he was very vague about what kind of weapons they have.
00:23:45.000Yeah, he was like, they can't stop it.
00:24:13.000You know, like nuclear bombs attached to a drone that can fly through a window.
00:24:18.000Let's get into that, but I do want to talk a little bit more about Strauss-Howe, and then I do want to talk about the police state, the cyber dogs they got in New York.
00:24:27.000So the Strauss-Howe generational theory, when does it start?
00:24:32.000Was there something before the Revolutionary War?
00:24:34.000Or are they just basically saying, hey, we had a revolution, 80 years later, a civil war, 80 years later, World War II, probably another thing's going to happen.
00:24:41.000Or was there something we just don't talk about before that?
00:24:45.000Yeah, you know, so in the book, they're not really clear.
00:24:48.000The earliest crisis period that I think they mention is the Glorious Revolution, though they do go back into Roman history and they say that the term saeculum means a long life, because by the way, you know, anyone who's entering this crisis period wasn't around in the last crisis.
00:25:06.000So, it's usually people are dead, they're not around enough to even know what the pattern means, so history repeating itself, they don't quite get it.
00:25:15.000But it goes back to the Glorious Revolution, like I said, in England.
00:25:20.000Before that, they don't really get much into this period, so it seems like...
00:25:25.000They're talking Anglo-Saxon American history, but they do mention, and this is where my understanding breaks down, is other countries going through their own cycles.
00:25:34.000And they said, if two countries, this was also part of chapter six, if anyone wants to go in there and check it out, of the fourth turning.
00:25:41.000If two countries reach their crisis period at the same exact time, usually that's when it will definitely end in war, or a lot more likely to end in war, if two periods or two major powers specifically are in crisis at the same time.
00:25:57.000But it seems like, well, we're facing two potential threats, China, but also civil war.
00:26:03.000And so, if we look internally, we have two tribal factions.
00:26:07.000You have the populist right, and then you have the establishment.
00:26:11.000The populist left tends to support the establishment.
00:26:14.000Well, they'll rag on Joe Biden, but they'll throw their weight behind him, so, you know, you may as well have that.
00:26:19.000Then you have disaffected, moderate individuals like me.
00:26:21.000I throw my weight behind Trump, for instance.
00:26:23.000To a certain degree, voted for the guy, supported him in some endeavors, but I'm fairly critical, just like the populist left is critical of the Democrats, but also throw their weight behind him.
00:26:32.000It seems like because of Facebook's dominance, Twitter, the internal war being fought right now does include low-tier violence and mass protests and riots, as well as many, you know, these individuals who stormed the Capitol.
00:26:46.000So there is violence, but it seems like the bigger fight is just the fact that lines of communication are completely controlled right now by the left tribe, which would say to me that by 2028, the populist right tribe will be non-existent.
00:27:00.000If that's the end of the major climax, if they're talking about insurrection and violence and talk of secession, it sounds like we are entering another Civil War period.
00:27:10.000Texas is already—they got legislation pushed forward that will allow the state to vote for secession.
00:27:16.000And the Texas GOP is supporting the bill.
00:27:19.000I support the idea that people should be allowed to vote for things they want.
00:27:21.000Will they actually be able to pull it off?
00:27:24.000But if Joe Biden, who is pushing this very, very heavy gun control stuff, That's the easiest way to look at how Joe Biden's policy demands do not fly at all with red states, and some blue states to a certain degree.
00:27:38.000What I mean by this is the gun control measures he proposes are very good for blue cities.
00:27:44.000The people who live there, they want them, they like them, they don't want guns, and they live in really close proximity with cops everywhere.
00:27:53.000But Joe Biden wants to have this gun control even in red states nationwide.
00:27:57.000So what's happening now is the ideological divide between how someone wants to live is so they're so diametrically opposed that when Joe Biden is like, I'm going to pass laws that benefit cities.
00:28:08.000You know, to hell with everybody else.
00:28:10.000You end up with talk of, right now we have many counties who want us to secede from those states to go to red states.
00:28:15.000But sooner or later, we're gonna see more than just murmurs.
00:28:20.000If the climax is supposed to be... We're in the climax, but if the end is supposed to be 2028, I don't think it's fair to call the climax right now.
00:28:28.000Because if this is going to keep escalating until it finally goes off the cliff and just stops and then restarts, then the climax is going to be 2027, December 31st.
00:28:35.000But I'll tell you, I think September 11th was the inciting incident, and we're in year 20 right now.
00:29:19.000Sure, sure, listen, some activists cared, but for the most part, it didn't impact regular people.
00:29:24.000The mortgage-backed security crisis, the financial crisis, everything that followed brought people to zero, and people were desperate, they were angry, and what did they see?
00:29:35.000So what happens then is you go to Occupy Wall Street.
00:29:38.000You had left and right basically screaming, F the establishment.
00:29:41.000Well, try as they might, and they succeeded, they kept the left and the right divided on this issue.
00:29:47.000When the young leftists came in to Zuccotti Park, they drove away the libertarian and the conservative ideas that were there and dominated with far-left populist ideas.
00:29:55.000You then move forward and you have the rise of Bernie Sanders.
00:29:58.000The establishment clearly did not want Bernie Sanders to have any power.
00:30:02.000But they seem to have been taken by surprise at the rise of this left populist movement.
00:30:13.000They were submitting, you know, one example is they gave the questions to Hillary so she would know what they were going to ask her and could prepare beforehand.
00:30:50.000They said Bernie Sanders is a guy whose job has been to be a politician, and he's talking about these free trade agreements, he's talking about union workers.
00:30:59.000He's a little too far left for me, but he seems genuine and way better than the establishment.
00:31:04.000When Hillary Clinton basically took it from Bernie, they said, well, the only other guy talking about these free trade agreements and bringing our jobs back is Trump.
00:31:13.000Two different elements of the populist revolt, which started primarily because of the economic collapse and how it destroyed the lives of many people.
00:31:29.000You then had millennials, who are now entering a job market, competing with boomers for entry-level jobs.
00:31:35.000Now you have Gen Z, who literally entered the market after that, where there were no jobs!
00:31:40.000And so they're all basically becoming socialists.
00:31:42.000Or I should say, they're very socialistic, albeit there is a slight push towards some conservatism.
00:31:49.000But it's no surprise that you see so many socialist youth when they're like, by the time I was old enough to get a job, what scraps were left were taken up by millennials.
00:32:00.000The millennials are like, I did everything I was told to, and then when I tried to get a job, all I could go was entry-level garbage.
00:32:05.000I could barely pay off my student loans.
00:32:17.000And then here, in 2021, I'm sorry, in 2020, it shoots straight up.
00:32:22.000Now they say it's because they changed the reporting metric for it.
00:32:25.000However, before they changed the reporting metric, the spike had already begun.
00:32:30.000So if anything, it seems like they changed the reporting metric because they needed to mask it to some capacity.
00:32:35.000So in my view, 2008 was this major economic catalyst, which sparked this populist uprising, which leads to Donald Trump, which leads to now claims of Democrats saying an insurrection, the culture war and the clashes and everything around it are all merging into one.
00:32:48.000And it's coming to a point where we just had federal charges for Antifa dropped in Portland.
00:32:53.000Yet they're going after some befuddled granny who walked into the Capitol building when the cops opened the door for her.
00:32:59.000Republicans and people on the tribal right can see that there's a double standard, and they're being treated like second-class citizens.
00:33:04.000That Antifa, for over a year, can burn down entire cities, and the Vice President, now the Vice President, literally can fundraise on their behalf, and it is accepted.
00:33:15.000But you get a video of the cops opening the door at the Capitol and saying, well, I don't agree with it, but I agree with your right to protest and welcoming them all in.
00:33:22.000And these people walk in smiling, taking selfies, respecting the velvet ropes, smiling and taking pictures with cops.
00:33:28.000And now these people are facing serious charges and they're being called insurrectionists and lawyers won't even represent them.
00:33:34.000Now we're seeing the wave of censorship that's escalating.
00:33:43.000I think the 2008 thing makes a little bit more sense, mainly because there's something about the winter crisis period that they mentioned.
00:33:52.000So instead of just looking at the external, like what are the events and things like that, take a look at people's behavior.
00:33:59.000Because they do say sparks, inciting events, if it happens in a different turning, like in the spring or the summer or the fall, we behave differently.
00:34:10.000And so in 2001, you didn't see as many people amassing.
00:34:15.000So they say in a high period, which is right after a crisis, the number one thing that sparks create is synergy.
00:34:24.000In an awakening, which you go back and look at the hippie generation, it's argument.
00:34:29.000That's the number one thing sparks do.
00:34:32.000And then during an unraveling, it's anxiety.
00:34:35.000But during a winter period, it's action.
00:34:38.000And you see a lot more action come the 2008, like, you know, from that entering to the Occupy, and then everything from there, people, and even just the ease of social media, getting together, bringing your ideas together.
00:34:52.000It seems like people are a lot more action-oriented, and they do say that, you know, the new presidents that come in during this period We'll have a, you know, no BS, like straight to the point, let's get down to business kind of like action orientation.
00:35:07.000The one thing they do say, which I noticed because I was listening to a bunch of podcasts on January 6th, when the thing happened at the Capitol, and they were in this book, they say that these events are going to start devaluing, like basically there's going to be a massive devaluation.
00:35:25.000And I remember that thing that happened on the 6th, the storming of the Capitol, it didn't really reflect itself in the market the same way.
00:35:37.000I remember a lot of people that I was listening to, and these were just people who were speculating constantly, and they have their podcast, and they were saying, something is not right.
00:35:46.000Something is disconnected here from reality.
00:35:48.000So that is one thing that the book like it was it was suspecting that during this period you're going to see devaluation constantly.
00:35:56.000Maybe it's happening and we're not seeing it.
00:36:08.000So there's major predictions of food shortages and or food inflation.
00:36:14.000So, Texas had a food shortage because of the winter storm.
00:36:17.000It made it impossible for trucks to come in.
00:36:19.000But now, one of the things I'm seeing a lot of, people don't notice this stuff because we're basically frogs in a pot.
00:36:25.000We're coming to a slow boil and we don't realize it.
00:36:29.000I saw someone on Twitter say, I just went to the grocery store to buy a week's worth of groceries and I couldn't believe it was almost double what I normally spend.
00:36:35.000A lot of people aren't really paying attention to how much it's costing them.
00:36:37.000And I think there's a couple reasons for it.
00:36:39.000For one, frogs in a pot, you don't really notice these gradual changes.
00:36:42.000But a lot of people just don't have money anyway.
00:38:00.000And you got to wonder, I mean, in the same thing is like, you know, when you are exiting the real fall, going into the real winter, one starts to look like the other.
00:38:11.000By the end of fall and the beginning of winter, it does just kind of fade into one another.
00:38:15.000So this still could make sense in that respect.
00:38:17.000But I mean, like there's this was just the inciting incident.
00:38:21.000And then so like there's a lot of ways of looking at like, what are the sequence of events and where does it culminate?
00:38:28.000I think When it comes to predictions, it's very difficult, depending on your ability to calculate the variables in front of you, you can make better and better predictions.
00:38:37.000It sounds like these guys are very, very smart.
00:38:41.000And they were able to see a wide range of variables and track what they thought was the highest probability based on the things that were going to happen in their time period and based on history.
00:38:49.000In which case they were able to, I would say fairly accurately predict things.
00:38:55.000We don't expect people to be actual psychics who can tell you on this date at this time
00:39:01.000But for someone to say there will be an economic catalyst, there will be insurrection and militias,
00:39:07.000there will be fights in the streets, and it's like all that stuff is happening.
00:39:10.000Now the other thing I think people should understand too is semantics and the language
00:39:17.000Is it fair to say, when they mention the malicious fighting, would it be fair to say, well, we've seen right and left clashes over the past four or five years in suburbs and, you know, outlying areas?
00:39:49.000Like, what does the action look like here?
00:39:52.000It's, you know, tensions got a lot higher here.
00:39:57.000It's kind of interesting because when you mentioned that, I often hear the same trigger words like, why are we hearing the word insurrection, secession, obviously the CDC, the spread of a new communicable disease.
00:40:10.000That blew my mind when I heard that part of it.
00:40:13.000But then even go into people like Katherine Austin Fitz, and you could say what you think about her theories, but she was saying, you know, when she researched the 37 protests that happened in 2020, 34 of them happened within a very short mileage around central, well, Federal Reserve banks.
00:40:33.000And that a lot of infrastructure was destroyed around that.
00:40:36.000Her theory was that it was to basically buy that infrastructure for pennies on the dollar, build up the smart grid.
00:40:43.000Because my big question here is, where are we heading?
00:41:03.000We're a lot more reliant on the technology.
00:41:05.000I think in Africa, the first baby was, you know, unborn child was already put on the blockchain.
00:41:12.000And like, moving in this direction, and I've heard the big change, the great reset, moving from shareholder capitalism to stakeholder capitalism, which is, you know, basically it's just a restructuring of what our economy is now.
00:41:39.000If you look at the charts, how it shot up to like $38K, back down to $27K, up to $56K, back down to $45K, it's going up to $75K, back down to $62K.
00:41:46.000But while you can look at Bitcoin and predict to a certain degree, you can like actually create, you know, like, here's what it did, here's what it'll likely do.
00:41:55.000I think the reason we saw this massive jump was very different than the previous.
00:42:00.000What we saw previously with Bitcoin was just popular mentions.
00:42:05.000People started talking about Bitcoin, started buying it, made the price go up, then made more people talk about it, and then it created a snowball rolling down a hill where everyone's like, Bitcoin's so high and everyone's buying it.
00:42:14.000I think Bitcoin skyrocketed this time because you have chaos, uncertainty, destabilization, capital insurrection, Donald Trump's claims of fraud, all of this stuff.
00:42:25.000And mass inflation from the previous year.
00:42:27.000So now you're looking at insurance companies, foreign countries.
00:42:32.000Now there's rumors that Twitter may buy up a large portion of Bitcoin.
00:42:37.000I think that's proven not true because they did that apparently to buy title, I guess.
00:42:41.000But a lot of people are speculating who's going to be the next big company to put their balance sheet in Bitcoin because it's a safer bet than dollars right now.
00:42:57.000It has it's not a I don't even think it's a crypto, but it's it's a different kind of asset that is based upon the average of all currencies everywhere.
00:43:10.000And that's a protection, protectionary thing where like, if the dollar all of a sudden fails, but everything else stays stable, then you don't feel it that much.
00:44:03.000Do you think we're in a civil war period?
00:44:04.000I've so I've often thought like when they said the the weapons of war will constantly be the most powerful and effective weapons of war and this time around I wonder if it's it's it doesn't seem like explosions I think you're right it has to do with the colonization of the mind I mean you could go all the way back to the was it the CIA director William Casey In the 80s that said like our disinformation program will be complete when everything the American public believes is false.
00:44:34.000I've found that also in several books, you know, like there's also William Colby beforehand, which was basically saying, yeah, we definitely have, you know, we've infiltrated journalism.
00:44:46.000We have to because we have to control the narrative.
00:44:51.000Like, if you get people following the narrative... Was it Aldous Huxley who said, eventually, when you have people knowing that they're being oppressed, they revolt.
00:45:01.000But if you can give them enough bread and circuses, or just bring them their pharmaceutical revolution, right?
00:45:08.000Then how do you get people to be quite happy in their servitude?
00:45:12.000So basically accepting the way things are going, I would imagine you have to control the narrative.
00:45:18.000Then I start taking a look at what's happening today.
00:45:22.000Social media is so much easier for everyone in this room is going to have a different feed.
00:45:26.000We're going to have something different showing up on my feed than your feed.
00:45:30.000And all of that is part of our digital twinning, right?
00:45:33.000We all have a digital avatar potentially run through different simulations to see how, you know, how is Ben Joseph Stewart, with all his data, going to behave if he gets this kind of media?
00:45:46.000I think we've heard enough of that, even Elon Musk saying, AI writing blogs and just like, if something doesn't hit, just slightly adjust, slightly adjust, slightly adjust.
00:45:59.000We already have this where AI writes news articles.
00:46:02.000So this has been around for quite some time actually, maybe over 10 years.
00:46:05.000I went to a presentation in Chicago at the, I believe it was the Art Institute,
00:46:10.000where some guy showed us examples of how the AI does it.
00:46:14.000At the time, it was fairly rudimentary.
00:46:16.000It was like, if you have a weather system where the data is very easily inputted,
00:46:24.000it says thunderstorm Wednesday, 9 p.m., rain, then all they need to do is add very simple English.
00:46:30.000On Wednesday at 9 p.m., there will be a thunderstorm.
00:46:34.000And so you ended up with this very short article that said, your weather for the week on Tuesday, you can expect to see.
00:46:40.000And so it adds these very simple bits of English, and then just inputs that data.
00:46:44.000Then we started seeing that around sports games.
00:46:47.000Because the data from sports games was very easy, they could actually write more substantive articles, where it would say things like, football player, you know, X, scored, you know, this many points in the game, and a quote from a guy says this, and no one has to actually write anything.
00:47:02.000The data points just exist from the existing, you know, infrastructure.
00:47:07.000Like, when you go to Google, you can see the score from like a football game or something.
00:47:13.000All that has to do is take all of those things, find the name, find the players, you know, stats for the game, and then boom, you've got a substantive article.
00:47:20.000Now we're coming to this point where, why do we need woke rage bait writers when an AI can, you can enter in a subject matter.
00:47:28.000You could simply just type in, okay, we have a guy and he's racist.
00:47:38.000And then it can generate automatically the opinion.
00:47:42.000And if it doesn't work, then the next time it can learn what the better opinion is that will get more people to click it.
00:47:47.000We're getting dangerously close to this point where you're not going to realize the opinion you're reading isn't from a human being.
00:47:53.000It's automatically generated by an AI who doesn't know or care, because it doesn't have the capacity to, and it's making you lose your mind and want to go insane and be violent.
00:48:02.000You know, what's really interesting about you saying that is, I was studying this thing called Zipf Law.
00:49:17.000Yeah, so basically I was saying that we're getting to the point where you can have a human just input a few things like Let's say today Ian did a backflip.
00:49:31.000And then the AI can generate a long-winded thing where it's just like, today I was reading an article and I heard about this guy Ian who did a backflip.
00:49:58.000And then he showed all these ridiculous articles where it's like, you know, swimming has a transphobia problem, and like, basketball has a gender problem.
00:50:12.000An AI could easily fill in the gaps once you make that sentence.
00:50:17.000And what'll end up happening is, the AI will auto-generate the article, I'm sure these things exist already, and then they'll try and see how much traffic it gets, how long people are staying reading it, and then they'll keep tweaking it, and then they'll make another version.
00:50:31.000It'll do a little bit worse, they'll make another version, version it'll do a little bit better, they'll keep that version.
00:50:36.000They'll keep iterating and learning, and then eventually you will find the perfect rage-bait content being mass-produced for profit to keep people in a perpetual state of anger and anxiety.
00:50:46.000And you're making me think of procedurally generated video games as well, as artificial intelligence builds out our digital realm, and they're like, this guy likes to turn right a lot, so let's give him a lot of right turns in his game to keep him playing this game, and to keep him engaged in my meditative trance that I want him playing into.
00:51:03.000In your phones, there's this motion sensor.
00:51:06.000And there's, out of Aston University, I think his name is Max Little, I think he's a mathematician.
00:51:11.000He found that people, you know, they keep their phones in their pockets and it can sense your gait cycle, the way you walk.
00:51:19.000And with that data they found, now there hasn't been a huge study on it, but a 100% accurate diagnosis of neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, better than a doctor sitting and trying to diagnose you for the same because of the motion sensor that's already in your phone.
00:51:37.000So this is just like the failure of imagination is not realizing how you can figure out from a motion sensor, you know, neurodegenerative disease and diagnose it.
00:51:49.000Imagine now AI helping us get better at figuring out how we can use the technology that's already here.
00:51:55.000So then I heard that Facebook was working on something that could predict your thoughts.
00:52:03.000And so all their users, all the data, predict your thoughts, what you're going to type in, what you're going to look for.
00:52:09.000And that's what this thing called Sentient World Simulation is.
00:52:13.000You know, so it's a digital mirror of the, you know, our whole world, all the data points, everything connected to the Internet of Things, eventually the Internet of Bodies, which is basically just harvesting biometric data.
00:52:26.000But here's the crazy thing about the matrix.
00:52:28.000In the movie, you have this AI that they say they tried to craft a utopian matrix, but humans rejected it because they're predisposed to conflict.
00:52:37.000What they don't consider is that we're watching the construction of this matrix, and it's going to be absolutely perfect in every way.
00:52:47.000You are going to be completely entranced by it.
00:52:50.000It's going to know exactly what you want, when you want it, what to say, when to say it, to keep you locked in that state.
00:52:56.000We talk about, you mentioned video games, where they're like, Hey, let's, this guy likes to, for some reason, he jumps a whole lot.
00:53:08.000What happens when we get to the point where we have Neuralink, when our social media is already doing this, our social media is already trying to feed us what they know will keep our eyes locked on that page, it's making everyone go insane.
00:53:19.000What happens when they figure out how to make it perfect, that you will never unplug from Neuralink?
00:53:25.000This has been my experience the last week.
00:53:26.000I've been really hitting the games hard, and I'm getting to a point where I'll sit and stare at my computer and think, I have no joy from this, because this is not real conflict.
00:54:05.000And they're going to say, don't give anybody 52.
00:54:07.000And they're going to slowly figure out, and the next person leaves at 52 anyway, and they're going to figure out what they need to do in this game to prevent you from feeling like you're not accomplishing something.
00:54:17.000But like in the movie The Matrix, people rejected it anyway.
00:54:19.000Even though it was perfect, they still just, they need conflict.
00:54:34.000When you left that video game, it collected all the data as to what you did, when you did it, and what they gave you, and they'll say, we did something wrong, and they will adapt.
00:54:43.000And the next person who's playing, they will slightly change it.
00:54:46.000Eventually, out of the thousands of people who are playing this particular game, the A- I'm not saying the A exists right now, I'm saying, when we get to that point.
00:54:54.000Eventually, with a thousand people playing, they'll make a certain amount of iterations where it'll discover, we figured out how to get a person to play for another minute longer.
00:55:13.000But if we're talking about a singularity in artificial intelligence, we're talking about robots that do work for us, that change, that do everything, you know, for our bidding, then the AI will eventually start having food delivered for you, and you will never leave their game.
00:55:27.000So you think that the grand majority of people will eventually just give over to the Matrix, as they did in the movie, but then there will be a small extreme that is just not satisfied, that for whatever reason, the human brain's quantum calculator is greater than any AI we could build.
00:55:42.000I think humans evolved for very specific circumstances, and one of the interesting things about humans as an apex predator is that adaptation through our intelligence allowed us to essentially evolve faster than evolution would permit.
00:55:58.000Basically, when you look at a lion chasing a gazelle, right?
00:56:30.000We have conquered everything, every other life form on this planet, even diseases.
00:56:35.000Now granted, they can evolve and we're in a constant war against diseases, but Humans are the apex predator, and it's because evolution is too slow for us.
00:56:45.000But what that also means is humans are still Animals who have adapted for very specific circumstances.
00:56:53.000The technology that we've built adapts faster than life can adapt to it.
00:56:58.000Which means we will potentially develop a technology which we will victimize ourselves with.
00:57:04.000We will create an AI that won't seek to destroy us like the Terminator or the Matrix.
00:57:10.000There could theoretically be a war in the sense that the AI will be a mindless, in a sense, automaton, seeking to give humans everything they've ever wanted, and there will be a few people who maybe break out of it for some reason or another can't be plugged in, and they'll be desperately trying to free people from this matrix, but the people will be like, get away from me!
00:57:31.000I have everything I could possibly ever want!
00:57:34.000And that's what humans will get wrapped up into, and then they will just fall apart.
00:57:39.000Unless, of course, the true singularity means that the AI can replicate machines, which can manipulate digits, replicate themselves, expand their own technology, in which case, humans will just become a remnant, I suppose, and then in tens of thousands of years, or hundreds of thousands of years, there will just be self-replicating machines floating through the universe, replicating on various planets, and no human in sight.
00:57:58.000And when you say years, that's basically the time that it takes to travel a distance.
00:58:05.000I mean, not to diverge too far off, but when you say 10,000 years from now, you could just mean a certain distance away from us right now that is happening.
00:58:22.000It may be that we create a system that self-replicates, and humans just eventually cease to exist, and then the universe gets populated by self-replicating machines with no real consciousness, with no real drive or passions.
00:58:36.000And that's it, and they colonize the galaxy, and people... And then you know what you end up with?
00:58:41.000You end up with some moderately primitive civilization minding their own business, and then a strange cube lands on their planet and starts just wiping everything out and terraforming it for no reason for a human race that doesn't exist anymore.
00:58:54.000Unless psychedelics are that X factor.
00:58:58.000You mentioned, we were talking about DMT earlier.
00:59:01.000Well, here's the reason why I want to say that.
00:59:02.000There's a really interesting book called What Technology Wants, and it talks about evolution, and it says there's two main camps, and one is the contingency theory, the other is the inevitability theory.
00:59:16.000Things just happen because, at the moment, that's the best tool it had to arrive at a random meandering into whatever direction that billiard ball shot the other one off into.
00:59:26.000The other one is that everything inevitably is converging towards, like, no matter what, we humans were going to be evolved here, even if you rewound and started over, over and over again.
00:59:36.000During the Metazoan period, eyes evolved 40 times, I believe, and different kinds of eyes have continually been evolved, and these are immaculate.
00:59:47.000Even Darwin was just like, there's something interesting about the eye.
00:59:50.000Anything less out of it, and it wouldn't work as beautifully as it does.
00:59:55.000So, inevitably, what this guy is saying is, in What Technology Wants, the awesome book, he's saying that technology is also inevitable.
01:00:04.000And the way we build it, it's also at a population density, we get to a point where this will always happen, what's happening on the planet right now.
01:00:12.000And just to finish this off, what I find super interesting is one of the tech hubs of the world, Silicon Valley, what was that area very popular for during the awakening?
01:00:38.000By the end of his life, he was talking about AI and he was talking about future tech.
01:00:43.000Terrence McKenna was doing the same thing.
01:00:44.000So I do feel like I do feel like what you were saying might have a little bit of merit that most people will be fine and they are the the ones who were heard or group think really they just want to be part of the group and then there's the outliers like you'll you'll find outliers even among you know chimps or orangutans where like they
01:01:07.000They studied these chimps and they're like, why are they so depressed?
01:01:10.000They're always hanging out way outside.
01:01:12.000And they, they took these outliers and they studied them and then they brought them back.
01:01:16.000And it turns out that their entire tribe were murdered because they were, their outliers, the ones who were different, they stayed on the outside of the group.
01:01:24.000They're also the early warning signs of external threats.
01:01:28.000And so the interesting thing is, I wonder if there is an x-factor and psychedelics, potentially, they seem to be this thing where there's intelligence in nature.
01:01:37.000I believe there really is intelligence in nature.
01:01:41.000It uses an algorithm to know how to grow towards the sunlight and somehow synergize and harmonize with the mycelium blanket.
01:01:49.000And it really is this closed-loop system that found a way to just survive.
01:01:55.000There's an algorithm, this very same equation that accounts for the what is that Mandelbrot set that kind of infinity loop that you know generator is the very same equation that accounts for how populations especially like rabbit populations they balance themselves they go to a peak and then they balance themselves and it's always something it's some external thing whether it's a predator or you know the environment something keeps it in check it's this closed loop system.
01:02:31.000You mentioned that like the eye was like, essentially, some believe it was an inevitability.
01:02:37.000Then it stands to reason that if we ever encounter extraterrestrial intelligence, they will look very, very much like us for several reasons.
01:02:46.000One, We evolved on a planet where we have an oxygen-rich environment, but not too oxygen-rich, which means we have the ability to manipulate fire, which allows us to separate certain elements and create various components.
01:03:09.000There's no fire by which to smelt anything, and there's no hands by which to manipulate things.
01:03:16.000Out of all the life that may exist in the universe, assuming it does, the ones that succeed in developing technology will probably be in a similar environment, or at least in a certain capacity, have the ability to manipulate elements, to create components in advanced technology, and have the ability to manipulate small things.
01:03:32.000So it's entirely possible that eyes will evolve, the ability to sense the visible spectrum as we call it, the ability to have some kind of fingertips so that you can use smaller tools and make very refined computers and microchips and things like that.
01:03:47.000And probably, I would say oxygen makes a lot of sense because the ability to control fire.
01:03:51.000So, they breathe similar things to us.
01:04:32.000They would likely exist in a similar temperature set that we do.
01:04:36.000Now, I do think it can be a bit simplistic to think that, because there's probably things we haven't discovered yet.
01:04:43.000There's probably ways by which someone, some species could eventually discover a way to isolate certain elements and develop components without using fire.
01:04:52.000So, based on our current technology, we can make that assumption.
01:04:55.000They must be in some way Similar to our atmosphere or whatever like that.
01:05:09.000And then there was a revision saying, instead of saying they need water, how about we say there needs to be some kind of base by which chemicals can mix and interchange?
01:05:19.000So it could be something else, theoretically.
01:05:21.000But I think it's fair to say, you know, there's a good chance that, assuming there is alien life, and I think the universe is certainly big enough to warrant it, they will actually be fairly similar to us.
01:05:30.000They won't speak English like they do in the Marvel movies, but like in the Star Trek, you know, show, they're all fairly humanoid.
01:05:37.000They all look different, they have different heads.
01:05:39.000It is a little over-the-top how they all are basically people, but their foreheads are a little different.
01:05:43.000But you look at some of the alien races and bipedal humanoid type structure, I think there's a decent probability of it.
01:05:52.000There's symmetry in just about all organisms.
01:05:58.000So that symmetry is very interesting because to produce two of everything, it helps the way we move and orient to gravity, but it also is like DNA can be more efficient.
01:06:08.000Just repeat the same thing on the other side, mirror it, And so they go into that and they also speak about like contingency and inevitability.
01:06:17.000It's not one or the other, it's yes and.
01:06:20.000Contingency, you were saying how maybe they found another way to get to a point that we did.
01:06:25.000Maybe they made jumps and strides and their main point in the book is that technology is the main thing that does that.
01:06:32.000We have this contingency where it's like, usually it happens very slow, but technology It can make huge strides because something else, you know, very intelligent is working on giving it those.
01:06:45.000It can jump a bunch of generations that we had to go through in the slow way.
01:06:48.000So contingency is the way that it happens and inevitability is where it's going.
01:06:54.000So I know I'm going to California, but how I get there, that's dependent upon the roads and the traffic.
01:06:59.000You want to know what else is a very large component that will... I believe there's a likelihood that, assuming there is extraterrestrial intelligence, they will be similar to us, not identical, but they will also be a very war-like species.
01:07:13.000The reason for it is war is natural competition between the intelligent.
01:07:17.000A war between humans and deer ends very predictably.
01:07:21.000Hunters go out in hunting season and sweep the fields and wipe out what they call pests.
01:07:27.000However, humans up against humans means that when one human develops gunpowder, the other human has to quickly adapt.
01:07:35.000And because they're intelligent, The conflict goes from being between species to between different tribes within the same species.
01:07:42.000That conflict results in a rapid development of technology.
01:07:45.000Because if you don't compete successfully with the new arms and the new weapons, you die and you get wiped out.
01:07:51.000So you take a look at Europe, for instance, and the proximity of all these warring countries and the rapid development of their technology.
01:07:59.000That war drove a lot of technological advancement.
01:08:02.000Resulting in a lot of things people probably take for granted.
01:08:05.000Space program had a lot to do with the Cold War.
01:08:09.000And we developed a lot of new technologies.
01:08:11.000Plastics, for instance, were heavily influenced, I think, with the space race.
01:08:15.000Trying to find lighter and stronger materials.
01:08:17.000And now, we reap the benefits of that.
01:08:20.000Any other species, I should slow down a little bit, many other species in a different planet, if they're living freely and peacefully, say Avatar, you know the movie Avatar?
01:08:32.000That actually was particularly intelligent.
01:08:38.000And I know it's probably just a movie cliche that they're trying to make them look like Native Americans or indigenous population, you know, as primitive.
01:08:44.000But the reality is, based on their world, where they could all communicate with different species, that would present less of an opportunity for conflict.
01:08:54.000Because they weren't a particularly warlike species and were very, you know, pro-nature, they didn't develop a lot of these technologies.
01:09:01.000So, uh, I'm not an expert on this stuff, I'm not an anthropologist or anything, but I was reading about why it is that the various tribes of Native Americans in North America weren't as advanced as, say, Europeans in terms of gunpowder and ships, and it's because the country, North America, was so massive that when a conflict would arise, certain tribes could just leave.
01:09:19.000And so there was an opportunity to escape as opposed to fight.
01:09:23.000And when given the opportunity, most animals choose, most living beings choose no conflict.
01:09:29.000So even a bear, a grizzly bear, they don't want to fight you.
01:09:32.000If you're threatening their children, they might.
01:09:36.000But in Europe, where it was settled for a long time, and you had basically people pushed to the edges, it was, I'm going to war with you and taking what you got or else.
01:09:45.000And then they just became very competitive.
01:09:48.000Whereas the Native Americans were like, yes, there was a lot of war.
01:10:06.000The Federation becomes much less warlike.
01:10:09.000And most of the, you know, in the show, the Enterprise is a science vessel.
01:10:14.000It does have military capabilities because you've got to defend yourself from threats and there is war.
01:10:18.000But yeah, I guess the issue is when you look at, say, the movie Avatar and these imaginations of what a species would be like if they didn't have conflict, why would we have any reason to develop the technology if we're comfortable and peaceful?
01:10:31.000You need to create the conflict within yourself.
01:10:58.000There's a very accurate point to this.
01:11:00.000When you take psychedelics, what I believe, the main thing that you're doing is you're amplifying the here and the now, the set and setting that you're around.
01:11:07.000Your mindset is being amplified, all of your emotions, your subconscious is being amplified.
01:11:12.000It's shown that the reptilian brain, the mammalian brain, the neocortex, All the filters between them, they go.
01:11:59.000Josh, for sending me a copy of Ishmael.
01:12:03.000For those that aren't familiar, the meme, I am a gorilla, which we sell the shirt, go to TimCast.com, click shop and you get your I am a gorilla t-shirt.
01:12:10.000It's based off of Alex Jones saying this book Ishmael is a psychic gorilla telling people that they're like, you know, destroying the planet.
01:12:17.000And so Alex kept saying, you know, I'm a gorilla.
01:13:20.000So they injected them in a clinical setting with high amounts of DMT and these people would have the very same acceleration.
01:13:30.000There's this crescendo and then you blast through some kind of a what can only be described as like an other dimensional or at least a psychological barrier and you blast through into another world.
01:13:42.000And so the interesting thing was, in a lot of people who speak about this, there's hundreds of thousands of trip reports, or at least many, many thousands, I should say, of trip reports of people saying, when you get to this world, it's not just a distortion of this world.
01:13:58.000It's not just like you're seeing pink elephants in the road, but the road is this world.
01:14:03.000You seem to be in a completely different place, but it's structured.
01:14:06.000It's not just very weird and amorphous, it's very structured, and the beings that you meet there, the people come back and say, like, listen, I've done ayahuasca, I've done peyote, I've done mushrooms, you meet different things, and I can't tell if it's just part of my own psyche, but in the DMT space, this was not me.
01:14:59.000I've heard they're like elves made of like, you know, tin cans and sometimes like trash, sometimes crystals.
01:15:07.000But there's really only a few categories.
01:15:09.000It's not like, you know, oh, well, I saw, you know, like this actor or, you know, whatever, like a 3000 foot Bigfoot.
01:15:17.000They usually fall within the same categories, and the interesting thing about this is that the extended state DMT, so I just did a film called DMT Quest, and I'll talk about that in a little bit, but DMT Quest is all about endogenous DMT, which means we produce DMT inside of our own brain, and we haven't known why.
01:15:41.000It's being produced throughout the brain in far higher amounts than we originally thought.
01:15:45.000There was a bunch of people that said, yeah, but it's not enough to make enough sense of it.
01:15:49.000But we show in DMT Quest with John Chavez, the founder of it, that it's being produced about How much serotonin and dopamine we have in the brain, that's how much DMT we're making.
01:18:25.000Aubrey Mark is just, I forget how many, six days in complete darkness and you start having almost DMT-like visuals in that kind of respect.
01:18:36.000So you could probably compound it like that.
01:18:44.000Because 15 minutes in that space is not enough.
01:18:47.000And we need to talk to whatever these beings are.
01:18:50.000So this is a major university that's like, well, there's so many, there's so much anecdotal evidence.
01:18:56.000We need to figure out what's going on in that space.
01:18:58.000Cause what if these actually are interdimensional beings that are here?
01:19:03.000We just never see it because the veil is here.
01:19:06.000We see a small sliver of, of the light spectrum.
01:19:09.000All of a sudden you start to understand what Alex Jones was trying to say on Joe Rogan when he was yelling about the interdimensional beings and all this stuff going on.
01:19:17.000And you're like, what are you talking about?
01:19:19.000It's like you slow down and you explain people do DMT.
01:19:24.000They experience something that is fairly shared among people.
01:19:29.000And that, that is what really makes me say like, I want to know what this is.
01:19:33.000Cause when I, when I hear people talk about ghosts, I remember there was like a coffee shop by me when I was a little kid and they were like, oh, it's haunted.
01:19:39.000Someone once got pushed down the stairs and I'm like, dude, I'm more likely to believe someone pushed him down the stairs.
01:19:44.000And it wasn't a ghost who pushed him downstairs.
01:19:47.000But when you tell me that a university put a bunch of people in a chair, you know, shot them full of DMT, and they all had a very, very similar experience, I have two thoughts.
01:19:56.000One, I think it's reasonable that maybe it's just because we're all human that our brains react the same way, creating a similar experience.
01:20:06.000Or perhaps there's something more to it.
01:20:09.000Maybe we're shattering through this veil and we're seeing something beyond reality that truly does exist.
01:20:14.000You know, before people realized there was a charged electromagnetic spectrum, they did not know it existed or could even fathom what it was.
01:20:21.000And then we were like, hey, yo, guess what?
01:20:23.000Now we can communicate by just like a signal being sent out with electromagnetic pulses.
01:20:28.000You know, what I really love about this is that you guys are saying they keep experiencing the same type of things.
01:20:33.000Either it's mechanical, insectoid, you said beings of light sometimes, or small creatures like elvish things.
01:20:41.000So it is possible there are species throughout the universe that have evolved and they were, one of them was an insectoid species.
01:20:47.000One of them was a small hominid or a small, one of them was a mechanical society that is like advanced AI.
01:20:54.000And one is just pure light that is conscious, that is, that's possible.
01:20:57.000What if this has happened over and over and over again, and when we're talking about inevitability, what if it's inevitable that we explore—maybe it's not always called psychedelics—but it's inevitable that we explore beyond the veil of our own limitation, and that's what evolution is, is we realize There's actually something universal that we're all connected to.
01:21:18.000Carl Jung called it the collective unconscious.
01:21:24.000I don't know how much I even understand about those terms, but what if it is inevitable that breaking out of what's called the default mode network all psychedelics do that and the default mode network is it's consuming like 60 50 to 60 percent of all of our biological energy at least in our brain when we're just ruminating and daydreaming it's it's some say it's not efficient maybe it does serve a purpose but psychedelics break you out of that and this is how people are saying psychedelics are are
01:21:53.000Helping people with intractable depression, anxiety, things like eating disorders, obsessive-compulsive disorder, post-traumatic stress, TBI.
01:22:05.000Unlimited Sciences is a group out of Boulder who basically brought up to the UFC.
01:22:11.000You know, because there's so much traumatic brain injury that psilocybin mushrooms, potentially working with Johns Hopkins University, is saying, like, we need to actually dose some of these fighters with psilocybin because it's helping neurogenesis.
01:22:55.000We were talking before about, you know, MMORPG reality.
01:23:00.000Is this existence full of billions of humans who are all sentient conscious entities?
01:23:05.000Are only some people sentient conscious entities?
01:23:09.000Or is it only you listening to this show?
01:23:12.000What if this experience people are having where they say it's more real than reality, what if that's just like when you're not playing the game?
01:23:20.000So have you guys seen the Rick and Morty episode where they go to Blitz and Chits, I think it's called, and he plays the game called Roy, and he basically puts on his headset and then lives a full life as a guy named Roy.
01:23:32.000And then he loses when he's like in his old age gets crushed by a carpet and then all of a sudden he like comes back to the the game arcade and he's like wait who am I I'm I'm Morty like what if that's what it is what if the reality is you're getting a you're not really blasting off like you are but you're not really breaking through it's just like You're temporarily looking back at the real world where you're playing this video game that is humans on earth.
01:23:58.000And it's a temporary glimpse because DMT doesn't actually take you out of the game.
01:24:09.000It's not proven yet, but like Wim Hof, the Dutchman, he holds 26 Guinness World Records.
01:24:14.000He has a breathing technique that allows him to swim under polar ice caps.
01:24:18.000He's ran a marathon in the Arctic Circle as well as in the Sahara Desert without drinking any water.
01:24:25.000He's climbed to the top of Mount Everest in sandals and shorts because of this breathing technique.
01:24:30.000And so that's what made Jon Chavez and I, when we were making DMT Quest, we took a Wim Hof breathing instructor and we sat him in a chair and we had him hooked up to EEG machines and we just had him do the breath and we looked at the EEG profile and it looks, to our understanding and to what we've compared it to, identical to the DMT EEG profile.
01:25:21.000So now it's like, is there, drugs is such a harsh word, but is there a real purpose to alter your consciousness?
01:25:29.000If we get into such like biases and like rigid thinking, is it healthy to break ourselves out in a healthy way,
01:25:36.000not too often, because that could lead to its own addiction
01:25:39.000or messiah complex, but you know, is it healthy to break ourselves out of rigid thinking
01:25:45.000and then come back, integrate back into normal life?
01:25:48.000What if there was a way to actually focus your mind into mass-producing DMT, to access blasting off or breaking through the veil completely on your own, just through Training and exercise and practice visualizations and you guys have seen Doctor Strange the movie negative when so doctor So he's like, you know, his hands are all messed up and he's trying to find a cure and he goes to Commer ties and he meets the ancient one and she grabs his head and then all sudden he blasts off and he's like flying through space and
01:26:20.000What if there was a way to train yourself because your body does produce DMT and you mentioned this guy who does his breathing technique.
01:26:26.000What if he's like, it's like rudimentary access to this ability to like control yourself.
01:26:32.000And what if humans actually could reach that point through training and meditation to actually be able to experience DMT trips just by thought?
01:26:40.000I really think that governments are already doing that.
01:26:43.000I've seen in Russia, I've seen in China, I've also seen in the United States documentation from the Department of the Army, I think it was 1983, where they were looking at what's called, from the Monroe Institute, The Gateway Experience.
01:27:02.000I have this documentation where they're like, we really need to understand hypnosis and the power of focusing the body and the mind at the same time and how you can remote view telepathy, telekinesis, metasteric goats, right?
01:27:37.000And, you know, you can't prove, but it seems like they have actually helped.
01:27:43.000That there's actually been some cases that were solved.
01:27:47.000And there's this guy, something Campbell, I want to say Tom Campbell, My Big Toe, he wrote, and he teaches people how to do remote viewing.
01:27:57.000I got an article about, in 1979, half a dozen psychics working inside Fort Meade were, on more than 200 occasions, trying to peer through the ether to see where the hostages in the Iranian crisis were being held.
01:28:46.000You know, now I have to give all the credit to Wim Hof because no one was talking about Tumo or different like yogic breaths and stuff like that.
01:28:54.000But there was a whole, like yoga is one of the longest lasting disciplines, movement disciplines, and they focus their body and their mind with breath.
01:29:02.000If I told you that through legitimate, real yoga, not like, you know, suburban housewife yoga, a man could live for 200 years, would you believe it?
01:29:14.000I would, and I've heard enough stories of it.
01:29:16.000I was gonna bring this up, I was waiting.
01:29:17.000I was like, I'll bring it up in a second, because I knew a guy, he was a Hare Krishna.
01:29:21.000And he was telling me stories about what yoga really is.
01:30:08.000They were like, it was like a scientist who said, it's remarkable.
01:30:11.000We've doubled the lifespan of the average mouse, though I wouldn't call it living.
01:30:17.000Because basically, the mouse was being just from the brink of starvation.
01:30:21.000But because of that, the mouse lived for a long time.
01:30:23.000They did it with worms and other animals.
01:30:25.000So when I saw that, I started thinking, like, what if this guy was telling the truth, that there's like some yogis, and because all they do all day is just sit, and they barely eat, they eat just enough, and they do nothing but meditate, as he described, well, that just sounds like caloric deprivation.
01:30:40.000And perhaps they could live to be much, much longer, because they're literally not doing anything other than living within their own mind.
01:30:47.000Have you heard that mice with a much faster metabolism and higher heart rate have roughly the same exact amount of breaths and heartbeats as an elephant does?
01:31:34.000And what he said, and this was in a Greg Braden book, I wish I could remember the dude's name, but when they were asking him, like, what is your secret?
01:31:42.000He said, I only eat medicinal plants from my own property.
01:31:50.000So these are movement practices of slowing the breath down, but becoming more efficient.
01:31:53.000Because when you hear about breath practice, you're like, oh, you need to breathe a lot.
01:31:56.000Actually, when you learn how to breathe correctly, you breathe less and your body is more efficient.
01:32:03.000And so there's got to be something to that.
01:32:05.000But then there's also amazing technology that's doing things with longevity.
01:32:09.000And I believe there's something with technology and psychedelics, I believe, are just helping people understand our own potential.
01:32:16.000And there's this technology, I think I was telling you about it earlier.
01:32:20.000Ebner and Schorsch, so that's E-B-N-E-R, and these are German scientists, they put basically fern seeds, corn seeds, and then rainbow trout eggs under an electrostatic field.
01:32:35.000So this is the same kind of effect that right before a thunderstorm you would get, but 10,000 volts.
01:32:41.000And then they planted the seeds and hatched those eggs.
01:32:44.000The wood fern had a phenotype, meaning the way its genes expressed itself, expressed itself like a fern that has been extinct for 150 million years.
01:32:55.000And I'm trying to think of the name of the article, but it was something about like high voltage something causes for gene regression back into an extinct phenotype.
01:33:05.000The same thing with the corn, where corn now, because of selective breeding, only one ear comes off of any node.
01:33:11.000They were starting to get five ears off of every node, which is how corn used to be back before the selective breeding.
01:33:18.000The rainbow trout was the most interesting one.
01:33:20.000It was more stocky, it had a broader jaw, better color, it didn't need antibiotics, and it resembled a rainbow trout that's been extinct for 150 years.
01:33:31.000So maybe what was really happening all that long time ago was electrostatic storms or something?
01:33:37.000I mean, like, there's something about the regression of genes, though, back into extinct species.
01:33:42.000And, like, I don't exactly know how that would relate.
01:33:45.000So for that, my understanding is that chickens, for instance, there was, I watched where they said, like, they could actually grow teeth in chickens by injecting an enzyme into, like, when it's, like, in the egg in an embryo or whatever.
01:33:57.000And it's because at some point in the evolutionary process, the chicken stopped producing this enzyme.
01:34:04.000And then, you know, what came first, chicken or the egg?
01:34:06.000But the new evolution was that the enzyme was less, so the teeth didn't happen.
01:34:12.000And so by reintroducing it, the code for that still exists.
01:34:43.000She was really into the work, the Russian scientist of Peter Gayaev.
01:34:47.000She did this for the SolariReport.com, and it was this video where she showed there was this, I think it was a Japanese guy, and he used this dodecahedron-shaped cauldron.
01:34:58.000And so he took the genetic vibratory imprint of ducks and he irradiated a chicken egg with it.
01:35:07.000And that chicken egg, once hatched, started having features of the duck.
01:35:11.000And he reversed it and did the same thing the other way around.
01:35:15.000So like, I mean, I don't know where that's gone, but you know they didn't just, you know governments around the world didn't just go, oh that's interesting, let's just forget it.
01:35:22.000You were talking about ghost, what was it, ghost DNA?
01:35:26.000Well, it's the phantom DNA experiment.
01:35:27.000That was Peter Gagaev, where he put DNA into a vacuum tube, They irradiated it with photons, with a laser.
01:35:34.000Those photons then aligned themselves to the double helix structure.
01:35:38.000Then they removed the DNA, they removed the glass beaker, everything from there, and they looked at that same spot, and the photons were stuck in place for a month.
01:35:48.000So the photons, these tiny particles of light, were still stuck and they call that the phantom DNA experiment.
01:35:54.000Iona and Alan Miller said this can only be explained by wormholes.
01:36:00.000So the DNA apparently has microscopic wormholes that brings in its vibratory informational imprint from either outside of space-time or elsewhere in the galaxy.
01:36:58.000Viva La Tortu says, Tim, did you see Glenn Beck's video yesterday about banks starting to use ESGs, basically social credit systems, to determine your credit worthiness?
01:37:15.000I knew that someone had a super chat already.
01:37:17.000Right when we started the show, Enlightened Worm said, William Casey, CIA director, 1981-1987, quote, will know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.
01:37:30.000And then he mentions Brennan, but I'm not going to read what he said about him, but yeah.
01:38:16.000Tbrat says, this has been bothering for a while.
01:38:19.000After the months of riding and the hundreds of police cruisers that were destroyed, how many of those squad cars had a service rifle long gun still in the car, and how many didn't get destroyed but were taken?
01:39:15.000I thought about how funny it would be if, like, currency after the crisis is GameStop stock, because people are buying it like crazy as a meme.
01:39:23.000And then you have to wonder, like, If the stocks are, uh, you know, essentially unique per item, you know, each stock is unique.
01:39:33.000It won't be recreated unless there's like the corporate board or whatever.
01:39:36.000If people are holding the physical stock certificate, the company's wiped out and everything's over.
01:39:41.000And it's like, people are trading these stock certificates.
01:39:43.000It would function no different than a fiat, right?
01:39:46.000So theoretically we could have a GameStop stock backed economy.
01:41:07.0002028 2028 exactly it did that's crazy the last president
01:41:13.000Yeah, and then we come we become a woke ocracy A wokeocracy.
01:41:18.000I'll be alright because, you know, I'm not white, and Luke will be alright because he's Slavic, so he's not white either, but you guys, you're all screwed.
01:42:36.0001800 mile trench, it looks like a scar across the planet.
01:42:39.000I think another planetoid body hit Mars, collided and scraped across it, ripped it open, it fired magma up into the atmosphere, which then all the rust in the iron, you know, the iron peppered down back to the surface and then rusted.
01:42:51.000And now we've got this layer of iron dust all over the surface, like the guts of the planet.
01:42:57.000We all know that an invasive parasitic species invaded Mars and killed off the Martians about a thousand years ago and there were several centuries of revolt and then it was only after, you know, astronauts from Earth went to Mars and unleashed the parasitic race that they came to Earth and then Superman, Batman had to form the Justice League and rescue the Martian Manhunter to stop the parasites.
01:43:15.000You're forgetting about the creatures inside the sun that shot a laser beam inside of Mars first I'm actually referencing the Justice League.
01:44:52.000What the craziest thing about guns is how long they had them.
01:44:56.000And it took hundreds of years to refine them to the point where they like developed a cartridge.
01:45:00.000It's like they were using the first gun I think was like 1340 or something.
01:45:04.000long time ago and then it was just hundreds of years of like stuffing powder into a metal tube and then was it you know flintlock steel manufacturing that allowed them to like maintain the heat industrial revolution yeah so basically that's my understanding all of a sudden they could easily refine mass produce interchangeable parts all that stuff And then all of a sudden they were like, look at all this crazy stuff we invented.
01:45:27.000The fourth industrial revolution, which is all about automating.
01:46:14.000Because we've actually seen the IR lasers they already have been working on for the past couple decades.
01:46:19.000It's really amazing footage you can watch, where they have this gigantic laser, a massive lens, and it just points at a drone, and then boom, it bursts into flames and then crashes.
01:46:29.000If they're publicly announcing they have this, they must have had it for a very long time.
01:46:33.000Well, there was a Fox News article, I think it was April of 2020, when the Pentagon was asking for something like $120 million to start putting particle beam weaponry on satellites in outer space.
01:46:47.000So I mean, that was just 120 million that they asked for.
01:46:52.000But, but like, I mean, I believe they already have it on there or had it on there, but you know, particle beam weaponry on satellites and that was, um, violating the outer space treaty, something like that.
01:47:05.000Same thing as DARPA wanting to put bases on the moon and, and be able to use the moon for resources.
01:47:11.000That's also violating the outer space treaty, but there's been people forever saying like, there's definite ways to find loopholes around this.
01:47:53.000Ryan Ventura says, Ben, have you kept up with what Erdogan has been doing in Turkey and how he is positioning himself to become the revived Ottoman Caliphate in 2023?
01:48:15.000Man, we didn't even talk about the massive 4,000-year-old, along the Silk Road, vats of drugs with opium, poppy, cannabis, and ephedra that was shipped along the Silk Road.
01:48:31.000Drugs that go back thousands of years.
01:48:34.000Very, very much so implemented and where that was shipped as well.
01:48:38.000It's amazing how the history books have just written drugs out and they make it sound like we evolved without it.
01:48:46.000There's this guy, Chris Bennett, really good author.
01:48:48.000He's saying the anointing oil, there was cannabis in it.
01:48:51.000A lot of the major religions started with cannabis as being like a major part of the, even the tree of life, some called it.
01:48:58.000The cannabis, all these visions that they had, the anointing of Christ, how you commune with God in the altar, the smoke that came from the... So you're saying that, like, the apple of the tree was actually a nug, and it was like, don't smoke that!
01:49:35.000Second, Flash Gits has this really hilarious bit about a feminazi.
01:49:41.000And the best thing, the funniest part is when, so it's basically this feminist, she's really annoying and she's like always offended by everything.
01:49:48.000And then it ends with like her at a protest where she's smashing a cop car.
01:49:52.000And then all of a sudden, men's rights activists show up and they're like, men's rights activists!
01:49:57.000And then the men's rights guy goes, we want our fortunes back!
01:50:07.000Beerstar says, at the end of the Civil War, the ironclad ship was invented, the proto-battleship, which was the dominant weapon until World War II and the aircraft carrier.
01:50:25.000When Isaac Newton developed physics and the ability for long-range cannonry is when the English basically dominated and started capitalizing the globe. I know that once the Silk Road was
01:50:34.000kind of cut off and high tariffs and stuff like that, basically I think it was the English and
01:50:38.000the Dutch started using the long way around and using ships, but they became the first
01:50:43.000pirates with these heavily armored ships, and they would just bang the crap out of India. Then you
01:50:49.000might be, could the ironclads might have been used? I didn't know.
01:52:05.000T-Stomp says, Tim, you underestimate the internet.
01:52:08.000It has corrupted every learning algorithm and turned them into swearing racists because people think it's funny.
01:52:14.000Remember when it was like chatbot became super racist?
01:52:17.000There was this, yeah, you remember that?
01:52:20.000There was like an AI where you could talk to it and it would learn from the conversations.
01:52:23.000And then eventually it just started being saying racial slurs and just really offensive because people thought it was funny and they had to like shut it down because people did that.
01:52:33.000Was that the same one that said, because it was AI that said like, you know, Hitler did nothing wrong, something like that.
01:52:40.000And they were just like, all right, scratch that, cut this thing off.
01:53:25.000Till Hemmer says, an idea for the Our Pillow, an optional linen pillowcase that's definitely not just another burlap sack with Vladimir Lenin's face paper clipped on it.
01:53:46.000The God Pill says, check it out, I'm pretty sure I'm Jesus, no visions, no talks with God, but I'm taking this market crash and coming out on top.
01:53:53.000I worked hard to know what I know, crypto going to zero with most other things, God is good, humans are amazing, sound of GameStop, AMC gang, and then he put a bunch of gorilla emojis.
01:54:02.000He then goes on to say, life is easy, smoke weed, buy GME, eat tendies.
01:54:07.000Just as long as whatever you're doing is legal.
01:54:09.000AnythingAboutTech says, Strauss and Hao argue we need crises to renew our society.
01:54:15.000COVID being elevated to full crisis status undermines our ability to face and resolve our true crisis.
01:54:20.000Globalists take over in China and we risk a dangerous civic order implanting wokeism.
01:54:26.000I completely agree about wokeism coming soon, so.
01:54:30.000Robert Miller says, Why do people think only humans can reach peaceful cooperation?
01:54:35.000I'm anthropocentric to think- It's anthropocentric to think only we are special to reach that conclusion, as if alien races wouldn't reach the same logical conclusions.
01:54:52.000Well, they just seem to have this kind of like hive mentality where they all agree on their task, ants do the same thing, and they'll keep going on until the queen dies, almost as if the queen is the wormhole.
01:55:57.000That's why I'm so fascinated by DMT, and I think most people are.
01:55:59.000Because we're wondering now, are people actually breaking through some kind of dimensional barrier and seeing some kind of alternate reality or the real world?
01:56:10.000You were saying that you take it and it jazzes you up to something, but I was wondering if you take it and it actually slows you down so that you can experience reality.
01:56:35.000Look into Stuart Hameroff and Sir Roger Penrose saying that psychedelics bind with the tubulin and the microtubules and send your microtubules into quantum coherence, meaning it's resonating at Plank scale.
01:56:48.000So you're probably shamans and people on psychedelics are picking up on patterns from the plank scale, which does not follow physics.
01:56:55.000And it doesn't, you know, there's retrograde causality, there's non locality, which literally means not anywhere specific.
01:57:04.000It's all potential, you know, rather than then.
01:57:06.000I'm going to I'm going to say something that will make the audience mildly perturbed.
01:57:11.000I had a conversation with a source of mine who told me about some coming technology that will melt people's brains when they hear about it.
02:00:51.000He's out of Harvard, and they've been working with nicotinamide mononucleotide, NMN, resveratrol, and well, derived from berberine metformin, a type of diabetes medicine, in conjunction with intermittent fasting.
02:01:04.000And they're getting incredible results out of animals, like life extension wise.
02:02:38.000And every one of these thought leaders said community.
02:02:42.000Every one of them said like, you know, community is the number one resource you're going to want to have because it will cover all those other bases.
02:03:53.000I mean, everything that I've been looking at with where we're headed with reskilling and, you know, long gone are the days where you have a job for 30 years and then you retire.
02:04:03.000You're just going to keep needing new jobs.
02:04:05.000That's what the World Economic Forum is saying.
02:04:08.000I would say, like, definitely moving digital.
02:04:11.000Content, like online content is all, is definitely going to be in demand more and more and more.
02:04:16.000So like, I mean, coding, yeah, for sure.
02:04:19.000But I would say get into something that you're passionate about.
02:04:22.000That'll make sure you have longevity and something with online content.
02:04:27.000I am definitely biased because that's what I'm into, but it's, it's replicable.
02:04:31.000You know, you, you can make one piece of content and replicate it a million times for free.
02:05:20.000And it's really, I'm going to have some online courses here soon called the Awakening Protocols, where people are going through whatever they're going through now, you know, pandemic, world changing, and they're just protocols to help people deal with a rapidly changing world in a non-intellectual, very physiological, emotional way.
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