Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump Hints At ACCEPTING Speaker Of The House, Pelosi EVICTED w-Mike Benz

00:00:00.000 So, Donald Trump has suggested if nominated for Speaker of the House, he will accept.

00:00:20.000 He didn't say explicitly he would.

00:00:22.000 He said he's going to do whatever would be best.

00:00:25.000 There are a lot of big names.

00:00:26.000 But he did not come out and say, no, no, I'm running for President.

00:00:30.000 It's been back and forth.

00:00:31.000 Some people have reported that after Trump, you know, they floated his name as a nominee, that he said, no, I won't do it.

00:00:36.000 Then he said, yes, maybe I'd do it.

00:00:38.000 Now we actually have the video where he's like, well, you know, we'll do what's best for this country or for the party.

00:00:43.000 And so that's a that's a maybe.

00:00:45.000 I think it would be interesting, and I think considering the political attacks against him, we have news now from Newsweek that a former attorney out of New York is saying that they could auction off, the worst case scenario already happened, the dissolution of the Trump Organization, and the state may actually seize and auction off the properties.

00:01:01.000 And I don't know how much that's legit or just some dude being hyperbolic, but it's getting crazy out there.

00:01:06.000 Mike Cernovich warned you.

00:01:08.000 Scott Adams warned you.

00:01:09.000 And I said, maybe a bit aggressive.

00:01:11.000 Fair.

00:01:12.000 But we now have reporting from Newsweek that the FBI has created a new extremist category, and that is Donald Trump's army of MAGA followers.

00:01:21.000 That's right.

00:01:22.000 If you're a Trump supporter, that's it.

00:01:24.000 The FBI has labeled you an extremist.

00:01:27.000 Let me say it again.

00:01:28.000 Newsweek reporting.

00:01:29.000 The FBI has labeled Trump's followers as extremists.

00:01:34.000 Okay.

00:01:35.000 I don't know where this goes.

00:01:36.000 I have a general idea.

00:01:38.000 And maybe you might think that Cernovich and Scott Adams are a little over the top, a little hyperbolic.

00:01:43.000 And then you learn that, well, we knew, they're prosecuting Trump's lawyers.

00:01:47.000 They're issuing hundreds of thousands of dollar fines against lawyers who defended Trump.

00:01:51.000 They're going after Trump allies.

00:01:54.000 They're falsely accusing people across the board, and have been for a long time.

00:01:57.000 That's only getting worse.

00:01:58.000 And now, if you're a follower of Trump, they're saying you're an extremist.

00:02:02.000 Well, we're gonna get into all that and a whole lot more.

00:02:04.000 There's a bunch of news today.

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00:02:37.000 Matt Gaetz is actually yelling.

00:02:39.000 He's heavily criticizing the Republican Party.

00:02:41.000 The Speaker Pro Tempore has recessed until Tuesday, which should mean Matt will be at the event.

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00:03:51.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Mike Benz.

00:03:55.000 Hey guys, thanks for having me.

00:03:56.000 You wanna get up to the microphone?

00:03:57.000 Oh yeah.

00:03:58.000 No, thanks for having me.

00:04:01.000 This speaker move with Trump sounds particularly cinematic.

00:04:07.000 I mean, if you look at the powers of the speaker, I mean there's a certain irony because the speaker is in control of counting the votes.

00:04:15.000 So Trump will actually have his sort of dream come true of being in charge of the counting of votes after the last election cycle.

00:04:23.000 But then all the committee assignments and the power from there to be able to determine who's on every committee?

00:04:29.000 I mean, that's a power he didn't even have as president that would just be kind of crazy.

00:04:35.000 Yeah, the budget gets investigated too.

00:04:37.000 Do you want to introduce yourself and the work you do?

00:04:39.000 Yeah.

00:04:39.000 My name is Mike Benz.

00:04:40.000 I'm the executive director of Foundation for Freedom Online.

00:04:42.000 Our job is to restore the golden age of the internet, which we all know and love, and in that spirit, that's...

00:04:52.000 Right on.

00:04:52.000 That's what we're doing.

00:04:53.000 Censorship and other issues like that, so we'll certainly talk about a lot of this stuff, so thanks for hanging out.

00:04:57.000 Luke Herkowski, of course, is here.

00:04:58.000 Hey guys, my name is Luke Herkowski of youtube.com forward slash we are change, and today I am wearing my Biden 2024 shirt with him in a power pose, which you could exclusively get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com and support my independent media organization.

00:05:13.000 And before we start, a serious question.

00:05:16.000 What do you guys call an Irish Catholic with 400 girlfriends?

00:05:22.000 Come on.

00:05:24.000 A sheep farmer.

00:05:26.000 Oh, goodness!

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00:05:32.000 I really appreciate the confidence of not ironing a shirt that you're going to wear before you try selling it on air.

00:05:38.000 It's pretty impressive.

00:05:40.000 Okay.

00:05:41.000 Happy to see you, buddy.

00:05:42.000 I missed you a lot.

00:05:43.000 James, who are you?

00:05:44.000 What do you do?

00:05:44.000 Well, I was gone from this podcast for quite a while.

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00:05:49.000 I'm most well-known for a YouTube channel I run called Freedom Tunes.

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00:06:01.000 I'm happy to be back here.

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00:06:30.000 Thank you so much.

00:06:31.000 I'm looking forward to a great non-hostile show with my friends who don't say mean and horrible things to me.

00:06:37.000 I'm glad I'm sitting between you guys.

00:06:39.000 I just speak facts.

00:06:40.000 I've never heard you state a single fact in your entire life.

00:06:43.000 I don't know about that.

00:06:45.000 Fake news, Luke.

00:06:47.000 Okay.

00:06:49.000 How's it going, Tim?

00:06:50.000 I've missed you.

00:06:51.000 Just let there be a little bit of silence.

00:06:53.000 The awkwardness.

00:06:54.000 So he can think about what he's done.

00:06:55.000 Alright, how about we talk about the news that we got today.

00:06:58.000 We have this story from TimGuess.com.

00:07:01.000 Trump comments on whether he would accept House speakership.

00:07:04.000 Several House Republicans have nominated the former president for Speaker of the House.

00:07:09.000 Trump was nominated for a speakership by several House Republicans after California Rep Kevin McCarthy was ousted.

00:07:14.000 And we have this, uh, here, this video from the post-millennial.

00:07:17.000 Let's, uh, well, I'll just give you the quote because I don't, we don't need to play the full, you know, 1 minute and 47 second clip.

00:07:23.000 All I can say is we'll do whatever's best for the country and for the Republican Party.

00:07:28.000 Which is to say, Donald Trump doesn't want to say outright no.

00:07:33.000 Which is to say, he would consider taking this position if that's what actually happens.

00:07:37.000 I don't think he wants to come out and say, yes, of course, I'm gonna do it, it's gonna be great, because I'm not so sure he actually wants to do it.

00:07:44.000 I think he's saying this because he's putting a placeholder in it.

00:07:46.000 In the event he has a meeting with several prominent Republicans, and they come out and say, actually, maybe it should be a third party, it should be you, Donald.

00:07:53.000 And the funny thing about this is that This was actually a scenario proposed by a lot of people, you know, a year, almost a year ago, or I should say, you know, six or however many months ago, when people were talking about Speaker of the House, people were saying Trump should get a nominated speaker, and this is 2022, it's like a year ago, and then after they impeach Biden and Kamala, he becomes president.

00:08:16.000 I mean, look, anything can happen.

00:08:17.000 I'm not one to make predictions or dismiss other people's predictions at this point.

00:08:21.000 It's been a crazy past couple years.

00:08:23.000 If you came to me at the very beginning of 2020 and you accurately predicted what the next three years were going to look like, I would have told you that you're completely out of your mind.

00:08:33.000 So I'm not going to dismiss that.

00:08:35.000 It could possibly happen.

00:08:36.000 What do you guys think?

00:08:38.000 There's also lots of little leverage points from this that are kind of interesting, like you could do it on a temporary basis and then just stack the House Appropriations Committee to zero out the very Justice Department that's in charge of the criminal proceedings.

00:08:55.000 Game theory this out, him in a speaker position with people in a caucus who are willing to back him, it could actually throw a monkey wrench in a lot of things that are being done to him.

00:09:10.000 And the question is, if they raise the stakes this way, we're already seeing what the Justice Department and FBI are doing the other way.

00:09:19.000 I don't know if we're even going to be able to have elections or if it's going to go full Ukraine style if a move like that is attempted by Trump.

00:09:26.000 I say screw it.

00:09:26.000 Put him in there.

00:09:28.000 I think it's better off than any other politician out there.

00:09:30.000 The paperwork has been officially filed to even make this something that's going to be probably up for a vote.

00:09:36.000 So why the hell not?

00:09:38.000 Tuesday.

00:09:39.000 Yeah.

00:09:39.000 Matt Gaetz was saying that the Republicans were sending everybody home to go cry about it, that it's all about one guy because they've recessed until Tuesday.

00:09:48.000 Which, hopefully is good for us for the event on Friday, but Matt's bent out of shape about it, saying they should be doing their jobs and voting on a new speaker, and he's right.

00:09:58.000 I wonder what the point of a recess is, to be completely honest.

00:10:01.000 What's the point?

00:10:03.000 Okay, he's out, now we're gonna go home?

00:10:05.000 No, why wouldn't you just do your jobs?

00:10:07.000 These people don't want to work.

00:10:08.000 Yeah, politicians don't work. 1.00

00:10:09.000 They steal. 1.00

00:10:10.000 They're professional thieves, they're liars, they're con artists, and they're people that should not be trusted with any kind of faith at all. 0.95

00:10:17.000 So with this news, I think the more likely scenario, I mean, we could all kind of speculate here and talk about Trump being the Speaker of the House, But the most likely scenario here that's going to unfold is that there's probably going to be a lot more infighting. 0.96

00:10:30.000 There probably won't be a Speaker of the House, and because of that, there's going to be stagnation in Washington, D.C., and that to me is a beautiful thing.

00:10:38.000 It's a wonderful thing.

00:10:40.000 I don't want government doing anything.

00:10:42.000 I don't want government running my life.

00:10:44.000 I don't want government to tell me what to do.

00:10:45.000 I don't want more regulations.

00:10:46.000 I don't want more taxes.

00:10:47.000 I don't want more rules.

00:10:49.000 I think the situation we have right now is the most perfect situation for the American people, and that is a Congress that doesn't have a Speaker and can't act.

00:10:56.000 You know what?

00:10:56.000 I'm gonna be honest.

00:10:57.000 I usually don't agree with everything Luke says.

00:11:00.000 I think oftentimes he gets things wrong.

00:11:01.000 I think often, even when he says something correct, he says it in such an indecipherably difficult-to-understand way that you can't make heads or tails of it.

00:11:08.000 But I would agree with most of that.

00:11:09.000 I'd be very happy if the government was less able to do any of the things— But you agreed with that point.

00:11:13.000 I agree with that point, yeah.

00:11:14.000 I think you're absolutely right about that.

00:11:16.000 I think you're absolutely right about that.

00:11:17.000 The problem is the House is the one branch of government right now that Republicans control.

00:11:22.000 You're basically defanging the one thing right now that's doing oversight hearings on everything from COVID origins, where it just got released that the CIA was bribing analysts to change their You know, to change their analysis on origins, that they were chauffeuring Fauci around into these secret meetings on it.

00:11:41.000 And all this is, on the censorship side, there are so many things like the Jim Jordan subpoena to get all that.

00:11:47.000 If you neuter the House, you sort of neuter the resistance to the federal agencies.

00:11:53.000 So I'm not...

00:11:55.000 I'm more on the put Trump in there than shut it down thing.

00:11:58.000 I think the more likely scenario is that no one's going to be in there and to the point that you brought up, gee, I do wonder why the CIA was bribing analysts to cover up the origin of the sickness that we all had to deal with that Echo Health Alliance and their organization and other seedy parts of the government were involved in as well.

00:12:16.000 I wonder why they were trying to cover up exactly what happened to the people of the world with that particular sickness that they had their fingerprints on.

00:12:22.000 I just want to mention something, Mike.

00:12:23.000 I think you turned me around on this one.

00:12:25.000 I agreed with Luke a moment ago, but I think I'm on Team Mike here.

00:12:28.000 I would more or less say that your position makes more sense.

00:12:30.000 A very political answer.

00:12:31.000 That's what a flip-flopping politician would do.

00:12:33.000 Look, I'm willing to change my mind based on new information.

00:12:35.000 I think he made a good point.

00:12:36.000 I hadn't considered it when you were speaking.

00:12:38.000 My role here is I'm the arms supply in the Ukraine-Russia war here, so just whoever can get the arms on their side to win it, I'm happy to do that.

00:12:46.000 But as what Luke, you just said, is really interesting about the relationship between EcoHealth Alliance, because you noted they were involved.

00:12:52.000 I mean, it was more than involved.

00:12:55.000 USAID paid them $53 million.

00:12:58.000 And USAID has a very long history as being a conduit for CIA activity.

00:13:04.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:05.000 And, you know, there's there's a lot more on that on that particular thing.

00:13:08.000 So is a suggestion that Trump as Speaker of the House would be as ineffective on a lot of core issues?

00:13:16.000 It's more like if there's no speaker, then there's really no ability to have committees functioning in an effective way, and some of the pushback right now on the censorship space coming out of the Oversight Committee, judiciary weaponization, household land security, all of that is House-driven, not Senate, not outside, only they can really get access through subpoenas to some of the sensitive documents.

00:13:40.000 But people gotta weigh the kind of decisions of what's happening here because a lot of people are very critical of the House, saying specifically they gave Biden an unlimited budget.

00:13:50.000 They're not investigating his family.

00:13:52.000 They're not investigating Fauci.

00:13:53.000 They're not doing what they're told.

00:13:54.000 They're rolling over and allowing pure just pandemonium, allowing the Democrats to essentially have their way with them.

00:14:01.000 And some people are arguing, okay, maybe we'll get some committees and some investigation, but is it worth an open border?

00:14:07.000 Is it worth, you know, The possibility of World War III.

00:14:11.000 Is it worth, you know, unlimited spending destroying the US economy from the inside?

00:14:15.000 Is it worth it?

00:14:16.000 How is it that the Republicans win a majority And it doesn't change.

00:14:23.000 It is the same thing as it was under Democrats.

00:14:26.000 And that is why it was right for Matt Gaetz to remove Kevin McCarthy.

00:14:29.000 At the very least, we get obstruction.

00:14:31.000 And if you remember when the Republicans won the House, that's the same exact point we made on this particular show, saying about this particular situation, everyone was celebrating, everyone's like, we did it!

00:14:41.000 We got the Republicans in, not by as much as we wanted and thought, but we did it!

00:14:46.000 And I'm like, this is going to be irrelevant.

00:14:48.000 This is not going to matter.

00:14:49.000 This is going to be politics as usual.

00:14:51.000 And that's exactly what happened until Matt Gaetz got involved and said, you know what?

00:14:56.000 I'm actually going to try to represent some of the will of the American people that are discontent and pissed off with Congress screwing them over.

00:15:03.000 Yes, and that was my point.

00:15:05.000 We kept saying on this show, we want the Republicans to win, more so for the establishment and anti-establishment reasons.

00:15:12.000 But even if they do, we realize nothing's going to change.

00:15:15.000 And it is, to a certain degree, worse than that.

00:15:18.000 What happens is, when Democrats get in, they smash and destroy.

00:15:21.000 When Republicans get in, they run secret backroom deals with Democrats to smash and destroy.

00:15:26.000 There is no opposition party in this country.

00:15:28.000 What the Democrats do is the machine's agenda, and the Republicans are a pressure release valve for Americans who are sick of having the boot stamped all over their face.

00:15:37.000 But they can't stop it.

00:15:38.000 Now you get Matt Gaetz and seven other Republicans who are saying, now we can put some pressure on the system and make these changes, with tremendous, tremendous power, because they're willing to push back on Republicans, on the establishment, on the leadership, and they do, and boy are they all losing their minds.

00:15:56.000 You know, look, I like Lauren Boeber, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massey, but I've lost a decent amount of respect for them.

00:16:02.000 I still like them, they still do good things, but their Illogical defense of Kevin McCarthy.

00:16:09.000 They have no justification, and I will spare no one this.

00:16:13.000 There is nothing, no logical argument, to the American people who despise Congress to the tune of 82% disapproval, for them to say, we're gonna keep on keepin' on and kick the can down the road.

00:16:25.000 The only thing, if I was in Congress, there's no argument you could make.

00:16:29.000 Yeah, but we're making small gains here and there, Kevin McCarthy's getting us this, that, I'd be like, nope.

00:16:34.000 The American people despise Congress.

00:16:36.000 They're sick of everything, of how this machine is being run, and the Omnibus Spending Bill is basically every single September, Congress spits in the face of the American people and laughs about it.

00:16:48.000 And then finally, when someone says, Matt Gaetz and his other seven Republicans, hey, you know what?

00:16:53.000 We're going to give a middle finger, at the very least, to the Speaker of the House who wants to maintain this system, because the negotiations work, he wasn't going to do this.

00:17:00.000 Then what do we see?

00:17:01.000 Thomas Massey say, if you do this, this institution will fail.

00:17:05.000 Good, Thomas Massey.

00:17:07.000 I don't think you can make an argument to me.

00:17:10.000 Maybe you've got insider knowledge, but it doesn't matter to me. 0.86

00:17:13.000 I'm not in Congress and I don't care other than there is garbage in these omnibus bills, massive funding for ridiculous garbage internationally, funding for war that's never been justified to the American people, And then you say we should be worried about the institution failing. 0.93

00:17:30.000 I don't care. 0.98

00:17:31.000 I literally don't.

00:17:32.000 We must rebirth that institution and maybe it should be.

00:17:36.000 It should fail so that we can go and clean it up and rebuild it.

00:17:41.000 Newt Gingrich also had a very interesting response to all of this.

00:17:44.000 He's a Bohemian Grove member that came out today and said that what Matt Gaetz did is, quote, childish, and that he should be ousted from Congress.

00:17:51.000 And if you look at the people who are outraged by this, you look at CNN, who, surprisingly, is also pissed off at this news.

00:17:58.000 They have a very interesting article that's titled, McCarthy became the latest victim of Trump's extreme GOP revolution.

00:18:04.000 What?

00:18:05.000 That makes absolutely no sense at all.

00:18:07.000 Donald Trump actually stood behind The speaker of the house, Kevin McCarthy, many times during the original fight for him to be speaker of the house, even just recently.

00:18:17.000 And now, more importantly, if you look at all the people freaking out, a lot of them are usually connected to the military industrial complex.

00:18:23.000 A lot of them beat the drums for war.

00:18:24.000 A lot of them want more war in Ukraine.

00:18:27.000 And I think this is the big kind of linchpin issue that broke this dam.

00:18:31.000 Well, here's the article in the Daily Mail.

00:18:32.000 Newt Gingrich calls for the GOP to expel Matt Gaetz for being an anti-Republican and slams his childish behavior.

00:18:39.000 I'm not a Republican.

00:18:40.000 I've never been a Republican.

00:18:41.000 I don't like Republicans, but I voted for them in 2020 because of Donald Trump, because of his second-term agenda, and because wokeness and the far left and the Democrats have completely lost their minds to the point where it's actually kind of worrying.

00:18:55.000 But when Kevin McCarthy works secret backroom deals with Democrats to give them their funding on Ukraine, whatever garbage they want, because they won't just commit to actually debating bills in Congress...

00:19:05.000 Well then, you might as well just have Democrats in control once again.

00:19:10.000 So I look at Matt Gaetz and the coalition he is leading.

00:19:14.000 They represent a new faction of voters.

00:19:17.000 Just because GOP or R is slapped on their title does not mean we agree or even like the Republican Party.

00:19:24.000 So when Newt Gingrich comes out and says Matt Gaetz should be expelled, No, I say actually Kevin McCarthy should be expelled.

00:19:31.000 This is all Kevin McCarthy's fault.

00:19:33.000 All of it.

00:19:33.000 The shutdown threats, him getting removed from the speakership, it is not the fault of Matt Gaetz.

00:19:40.000 If Kevin McCarthy says he wants to be in charge, he wants to be the boss, and then in exchange for leadership, he gives guarantees and then violates those guarantees, he screwed up.

00:19:51.000 Nobody else did.

00:19:52.000 Well, this is huge, and this is what the media does all the time.

00:19:55.000 Whenever a person in a particular position of authority fails to live up to the obligations that they incurred by stepping into that position, the media and the establishment blame those who pointed out that that person failed and then tried to remove them from their position.

00:20:10.000 For people losing respect in said position, when of course it's the exact opposite.

00:20:15.000 People don't rally behind removing these people from these positions in the vast majority of cases because they themselves decided they wanted to delegitimize this institution or position.

00:20:25.000 It's because they're not doing what they're supposed to do.

00:20:27.000 So we saw this when Trump attacked the media repeatedly for very good reason, and the response was Donald Trump has undermined American trust in our institutions and not These institutions have undermined trust in themselves and Trump is now giving a voice to that.

00:20:40.000 So similarly, Gates pointing out and doing what he could to oust McCarthy does not mean that Gates is responsible for the fact that the American people have lost faith in that institution or pushed him out.

00:20:52.000 It's really more a product of McCarthy's own actions catching up to him.

00:20:56.000 Did Gingrich give any more reasoning for that in terms of the need to keep McCarthy on?

00:21:05.000 Did he spell that out in detail?

00:21:06.000 Because there is this divide between the stakeholders and the American empire.

00:21:11.000 in the interest of the people who live here that is sort of the fault line as I see it

00:21:15.000 in the GOP civil war. You have this generations old GOP power base which is tied to the military,

00:21:23.000 it's tied to the energy sector, it's tied to the intelligence services and these are folks who,

00:21:28.000 you know, from oil companies to military contractors make their money on the expansion

00:21:36.000 and protection of assets in foreign lands.

00:21:40.000 And sometime around the 90s, there became a very noticeable cleavage between the kind of trickle-down economic ideal of those corporations sort of spilling into the middle class to having this kind of divide between The American homeland and the empire, where the people in the homeland were suffering even as the empire grew and expanded.

00:22:03.000 And what we see right now in the Republican wing is you can pretty much tell whether or not somebody voted for or against McCarthy by whether they represent the foreign policy establishment or whether they represent domestic interests.

00:22:16.000 The Democrat Party is completely corralled on that front.

00:22:20.000 There's division on the GOP.

00:22:23.000 My concern with this is Since I don't fully understand the logic of the McCarthy back, you know, why it is that folks like Gingrich are so insistent on it, I wonder if without compromise to that blob, people are afraid of, you know,

00:22:43.000 They don't really have a mafia on their side.

00:22:45.000 The Bush wing of the Republican Party, you know, I think protects, there's strong representation in the Justice Department and in the DOD and CIA and State Department.

00:22:54.000 There's no representation of that in the populist wing.

00:22:58.000 So there's like no protection against attempts to use dirty tricks to kill the careers of Republican, you know, Congress people.

00:23:05.000 So I wonder how much of that is appeasement because there is no mob for the populist faction of the GOP.

00:23:14.000 Well, Newt does represent more of a kind of rhino establishment-based politics that, of course, is also connected to many secret societies.

00:23:21.000 And as he previously even said before, the main kind of problem that a lot of people are seeing with Trump is that he's not a part of some of those same secret societies.

00:23:29.000 So, you bring up a very interesting point because There are a lot of populists, but there also is a lot of rhinos, a lot of establishment types, a lot of people who go to the Bohemian Grove, take off their clothes, worship Moloch, and of course have mock child sacrifices that are the good old boys, the good old Republicans, the Christian conservatives that of course value traditional 0.63

00:23:50.000 Uh, you know, ways, which is, which is kind of ridiculous when you look at the face value of what they're responsible for, because when they had a seat at the table, when, when, uh, when 2001 happened, they had everything.

00:24:01.000 They had the Senate.

00:24:02.000 They had Congress.

00:24:03.000 They had the presidency.

00:24:04.000 They had the American people behind them.

00:24:05.000 And what did they do?

00:24:06.000 They failed the American people.

00:24:07.000 And I think there's a huge section of Uh, the populace that realizes, holy cow, like, like these guys, these guys could be just as bad as the Democrats here.

00:24:16.000 We have to speak out against this.

00:24:18.000 And I can understand your kind of sentiments here, but when looking at the current situation that we're in, the left side is pretty bad.

00:24:25.000 The right side?

00:24:26.000 It's pretty bad, too.

00:24:27.000 So I think this is the current predicament that a lot of people are left in, kind of questioning and wondering, where do we go from here?

00:24:33.000 Either side we go on, we're kind of screwed here, and the politicians who are going to be put into place are going to be puppets of the establishment that are going to be doing the screwing.

00:24:42.000 It's all about the interests of those with money.

00:24:44.000 And it always is.

00:24:45.000 There's supposed to be the will of the people involved in our system, but it's not supposed to be direct democracy.

00:24:50.000 But now, we've- we've- I shouldn't say now, but we've been in a system for quite some time, maybe even a hundred years, where it's literally just rule by elites.

00:24:57.000 If you have the money, then you make the rules.

00:24:59.000 If you're a regular person, your- your ideas don't matter.

00:25:02.000 And some may argue that there's a meritocracy in this.

00:25:05.000 Like, well, if you- if you work hard enough, and you're smart enough, and you make all that money, well then, you will get an outsized voice.

00:25:10.000 It makes sense.

00:25:11.000 Those have merit and capability.

00:25:12.000 The problem is, The purpose of our government was that the opinions of people who work regular jobs and live humble lives matter as well.

00:25:22.000 And for the longest time, they've not mattered at all in our politics.

00:25:27.000 So, while I agree, you know, someone like Elon Musk, they're like, how does he have so much power?

00:25:31.000 How does he buy, you know, X?

00:25:32.000 How does he assert this authority?

00:25:34.000 Well, you know, he built all these companies, he made lots of money, and then he uses that, you know, what he built and the resources he's gathered to have that influence.

00:25:41.000 That's fine, I accept that.

00:25:42.000 But our system of government, the neocon neolib establishment, has basically just said we are fine with not allowing anyone of humble means to have a voice, period.

00:25:55.000 Yeah, and the fact that they've overturned two and a half centuries of precedent to, you know, basically charge Trump with 750 years.

00:26:03.000 And Trump is now winning in the general polls according to Washington Post ABC from, I think, Cenk Uygur had like a freakout over this that they need to be up like 15 points to be able to win in the battleground states.

00:26:17.000 Just like an outright general ahead and the guy is facing 750 years in prison.

00:26:24.000 This was something that we never even put a toe over that line before.

00:26:29.000 And not just him, it's 19, I mean all of his lawyers, they rolled up 19 at once.

00:26:35.000 I mean they basically indicted the entire inner circle around that period in January and You know, this is sort of happening around the globe in democracies, at least around NATO now, where it's becoming shockingly common practice to just ban your opposition party.

00:26:54.000 And, you know, Imran Khan's arrested, Bolsonaro, they arrested Marine Le Pen, they arrested Salvini.

00:27:01.000 Every populist leader There seems to be an immune system with the foreign policy establishment that when a populist leader rises to power for the interests of the people who live there rather than the interests of the international, you know, assets that they hold or resources or investments, then there is a sort of immune system within the Justice Department or within the national security state

00:27:23.000 to use dirty tricks to take them out.

00:27:25.000 And there's no, there's been no adaptation the past several years on the populist side.

00:27:29.000 I mean, you can see sentiment rising, but what is there to protect Matt Gaetz when he runs for governor if he starts to win?

00:27:35.000 I mean, you can easily imagine, you know, Merrick Garland taking him for something.

00:27:39.000 The FBI went after Gaetz just recently.

00:27:41.000 Already. 0.94

00:27:41.000 And they're investigating him on a whole bunch of BS ethics garbage. 0.94

00:27:45.000 And the argument they're making is that Matt Gaetz is only going after Kevin McCarthy because McCarthy won't stop the ethics investigations into Matt Gaetz.

00:27:51.000 And that doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.

00:27:53.000 It actually seems inverted.

00:27:54.000 That the reason there are investigations into Matt Gaetz is because he has been continually pushing back against the machine and refusing to play ball.

00:28:01.000 Why is it that so many of the supposed anti-establishment Republicans all of a sudden lost their balls and started just dropping to their knees for Kevin McCarthy?

00:28:09.000 I have to imagine when they watched the investigations launch into Matt Gaetz, they said, please, I'll do anything you say.

00:28:15.000 Because the threat of total shameless weaponization is now very much on the table.

00:28:20.000 I think that it was easier to be emboldened and to take on the establishment when you assumed a certain fair play, a sort of, you know, Mark of the Queensbury type thing.

00:28:29.000 Like, okay, they're gonna rail me in the press or they're going to go after my donors.

00:28:34.000 Not like they're going to physically lock me up and subject me to tens of millions of dollars of legal bills for, you know, jaywalking in my home district.

00:28:44.000 Yeah, well I think a lot of this is a product of the fact that the media doesn't have the kind of power that it's traditionally had.

00:28:50.000 So in the past, if they did write those hit pieces on you, if they did smear you, if they did tell the American people that you were a big, bad racist, then it was quite possible that your political career, if not being entirely over, was going to be in some substantial way negatively affected by those accusations.

00:29:06.000 But as the American people have woken up and seen that the entire press apparatus is controlled by one singular set of interests, And they're going to do whatever they can to keep the people who they're profiting off of being in power, in power, and they're going to smear anyone who's anti-establishment who stands up to them.

00:29:21.000 They've realized, okay, this press apparatus isn't actually working for us the way it used to because it no longer has legitimacy and the American people no longer trust it.

00:29:29.000 So what's left after that?

00:29:30.000 You actually have to take legal action in order to silence dissidents or stop them from running or affecting any substantial political change because you're not able to assassinate them in the court of public opinion anymore.

00:29:41.000 That's a great point.

00:29:42.000 It's like as the press power has dipped, the immune system has sort of achieved a kind of static equilibrium by dipping into the prosecution power where the press used to do it.

00:29:52.000 Well, that's desperation.

00:29:53.000 Press power is soft power. 1.00

00:29:55.000 Scare people will make you sound stupid, will make you look bad, will get you shunned. 0.99

00:29:59.000 Then when that power starts failing, they panic. 1.00

00:30:02.000 And now they're using brute force.

00:30:04.000 The problem with brute force is that it creates more stress on the system.

00:30:08.000 You're already losing confidence when you lose your propaganda machine.

00:30:12.000 Now when you start locking people up is when people stop believing in your system.

00:30:16.000 I was flying, when I was flying to Ukraine actually several years ago, we stopped over in Moscow.

00:30:23.000 We, uh, I was flying from the UK to Ukraine, and the only flight we could get was transfer in Moscow and then to, um, to Kiev.

00:30:31.000 And the funny thing I noticed is that when you board a plane in, uh, anywhere in the United States, they say, now boarding group one, or actually, depending on the airline, they'll be like, concierge, key, and military, blah, blah, blah, and people with disabilities, then group one, then group two, and what happens?

00:30:46.000 Everybody gets up with their group, Some people might try and push their way forward or pretend like they're in a different group.

00:30:51.000 Someone in Group 3 might say they're Group 2, but that's typically normal.

00:30:54.000 When I was in Russia, just transferring through Moscow, and they said, now boarding Group 1, every single person ran full speed and jammed their way to the front of the gate.

00:31:06.000 Same thing was true in Ukraine.

00:31:08.000 And I don't know if that's true for all areas, you know, airports in this region or whatever.

00:31:15.000 But I wondered if, when you have 70 years, which is several generations under communist rule, where people are mercilessly beaten, the rules don't matter, and if someone doesn't like you they'll lie about you and you'll go to the gulag, in order to survive you must play dirty.

00:31:31.000 Those who play dirty to bend the rules were the ones who survived.

00:31:34.000 So what, I don't know if this is the case, I just, I thought this, I thought maybe the reason when I'm in Kiev and I'm in Russia they stampede the gate and shove everyone out of the way as opposed to in the US taking their turns is because if you were in the Soviet Union starving to death or in the Holodomor or something like this

00:31:52.000 The only way you survived was by grabbing someone else's bread and eating it.

00:31:56.000 So they've created generations of people who think, the only way I get ahead is if I shove everyone out of the way.

00:32:01.000 And then in the West, we've got a bit more soft and lazy, where it's just like, well, I'll just wait my turn.

00:32:07.000 And not always, not everywhere, obviously, crime is skyrocketing.

00:32:10.000 But it was just a thought that I had.

00:32:12.000 And so as we're seeing this happen now in the United States, a fracturing of confidence in the system due to the loss of narrative control and the abuses of the system with no accountability, the only thing they can do is apply more brute force.

00:32:27.000 That will result in more people thinking the system illegitimate, which will require more brute force, and then it will break apart.

00:32:35.000 So crazy about what you just said is, what you just said is the actual like strategic linchpin Crux of our US counterinsurgency doctrine at DOD, which is when we are occupying a foreign country and we are trying to transition it to a rule of law phase, but it's being destabilized or there's insurgent groups and we need to sort of do a military occupation, get rid of insurgents, there's this

00:33:02.000 The strategic end goal is to have a sufficient proportion of the population to perceive the legitimacy of the rule of law system.

00:33:10.000 That is when the transition can happen.

00:33:12.000 And the problem is the more control you exert on the population, the less the perception of legitimacy if people don't perceive the system is legitimate,

00:33:24.000 it raises the cost of occupying because people don't comply.

00:33:27.000 They don't submit their taxes on time. They don't trust the courts. They

00:33:31.000 hustle in the way that Tim was just saying. But what's really amazing is that

00:33:34.000 there are all of these techniques to be able to nudge perceptions of

00:33:39.000 legitimacy.

00:33:40.000 This even happened in the 2020 election.

00:33:42.000 The DHS fixated on the term de-legitimization for its censorship demands on the social media platforms.

00:33:51.000 And when people were banned for talking about mail-in ballots, it was because they strong-armed and jaw-boned the companies to adopt a brand new terms of service violation policy called de-legitimization, which meant anything that undermined the perceived legitimacy of election Outcomes or processes anything about it whatsoever that you thought might be fishy Was considered to be a legitimization threat and they targeted at that level, but this is how the military targets and coerces both physically and psychologically like hostile foreign combatants in in Iraq and in Afghanistan the fact that it's been brought fully back back here is

00:34:31.000 You know, it's kind of shocking.

00:34:32.000 It's something that we've been saying was going to happen ever since 2011 inside of the United States when the Republicans said, we need the Patriot Act.

00:34:40.000 We need to watch everything you are doing.

00:34:42.000 We need to violate the Constitution.

00:34:43.000 We need to violate the Fourth Amendment.

00:34:45.000 We need to rendition people.

00:34:46.000 We need to send them over to CIA black sites where they get tortured. 0.86

00:34:50.000 We need to do this for your safety and well-being.

00:34:52.000 And then, of course, myself and a lot of other independent journalists were screaming, hey, this power that they're grabbing right now for themselves, is going to be ultimately used against everyone, and the war on terror has turned into the war on the American people, and it's clear as day.

00:35:08.000 It's happening more than ever.

00:35:09.000 It's very apparent.

00:35:10.000 It's here, and it is kind of terrifying because it doesn't take a genius to realize that you're not the good guys when you start to arrest your political opponents and lawyers.

00:35:20.000 You're not the good guys when you censor speech.

00:35:22.000 You're not the good guys when, of course, you use brute force to enforce your political views onto other individuals and then punish anyone who doesn't believe Let's jump to the story from Newsweek.

00:35:40.000 Exclusive!

00:35:41.000 Donald Trump followers targeted by FBI as 2024 electioneers.

00:35:46.000 I just want to make sure we don't bury the lead right now, and I can tell you that as 2024 begins, the FBI is explicitly targeting opponents of the Democratic Party.

00:35:58.000 That's all.

00:35:59.000 That's what they're saying right here.

00:36:00.000 Here's the opening paragraph.

00:36:02.000 The federal government believes the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter.

00:36:12.000 Donald Trump's army of MAGA followers.

00:36:15.000 Donald Trump is the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination and he is currently leading and favored to win the presidency based on the current polling.

00:36:24.000 And they are saying his followers are extremists.

00:36:28.000 The FBI and the federal government are right now siding with Democrats and accusing their opposition of being extremists.

00:36:36.000 So we recently heard from Mike Cernovich, Scott Adams several years ago, about the risk of what happens when things like this occur.

00:36:43.000 This is the next step.

00:36:44.000 This is the grain of sand in the heap.

00:36:46.000 Right now, your federal government is accusing Trump supporters, half the country, of being extremists.

00:36:52.000 Oh, I'm sure they'll make every excuse in the book.

00:36:54.000 No, no, we just mean the extreme ones.

00:36:57.000 Donald Trump has 75 million or so voters in 2020.

00:37:02.000 He has the polling lead right now.

00:37:05.000 Which MAGA followers are you referring to?

00:37:08.000 No, it's a blanket statement, and that's all of the people who are following Donald Trump.

00:37:13.000 And, you know, of course we know that the left-wing apparatus only defines extremism in the most honest possible terms.

00:37:18.000 They never throw that word around.

00:37:20.000 I mean, that's actually part of what's so beautiful about that word for propagandistic purposes.

00:37:25.000 You don't really need to define it.

00:37:27.000 What is an extremist?

00:37:28.000 Do any of us say, you're extremely in favor of a particular position, or you would employ extreme ends to bring your political goals to fruition, What exactly does it mean?

00:37:37.000 And what it boils down to is this is a person who I don't like, who I think is a threat to my agenda in some way, and so I'm going to try to oust them from public life and the public discourse without giving you concrete reasons why.

00:37:48.000 Yeah, I mean, I always try to use the term foreign policy establishment when when breaking down these power dynamics for this because this is this is not just the left it's also the the neocon wing of the right and that's what sort of what's at at stake both at the McCarthy thing but a great example of this is the same day this came out Chris Krebs who is the head of the censorship division at DHS who orchestrated the censorship of the 2020 election the tens of millions of posts that were censored because of DHS initiating this whole apparatus he just came out

00:38:22.000 As a national security expert and said that Russia's new plan is to target domestic political support for Ukraine to undermine it.

00:38:30.000 So that is basically the national security state and Chris Krebs recently partnered with two CIA directors on one of his new council initiatives.

00:38:39.000 And he's basically creating a Russiagate predicate for saying if you domestically are against more funding for Ukraine, you are echoing Putin talking points, you're an asset, witting or unwitting, of Russia, and this justifies a counterintelligence predicate at the FBI to investigate you by itself because you are potentially abetting a hostile foreign nation state.

00:39:05.000 This is very similar to what Cass Sunstein was writing about under the Obama administration, where he literally wrote a paper saying how if there's any dissident theories about the U.S.

00:39:15.000 government and our actions, we have to infiltrate those groups.

00:39:19.000 We have to release disinformation.

00:39:21.000 We have to use cone-toe probe-like tactics to make groups attack each other. 0.77

00:39:26.000 And this really makes you wonder, you know, this was talked about and I think implemented under Barack Obama, who also weaponized information, who also Past made very interesting propaganda laws inside of the United States that could now be used for domestic purposes.

00:39:41.000 When we look at all of this, I think we're seeing a lot of the chaos, especially within the Republican Party.

00:39:47.000 I think we're seeing a lot of the disarray that we see on social media.

00:39:50.000 A lot of it, I think, is engineered.

00:39:52.000 I think it's organized.

00:39:53.000 And I think a lot of it is fake and meant for a particular outcome.

00:39:55.000 That outcome Is to, of course, make sure no one is able to resist or speak out against the nonsense that they're trying to push on everyone.

00:40:02.000 Look, what you just said, there's so much important stuff there.

00:40:05.000 Because, first of all, Cass Sunstein, that memo, Cognitive Infiltration, is what he was proposing.

00:40:12.000 Anonymous federal agents to psychologically manipulate movements to get them to go in a certain direction.

00:40:19.000 He then that year published a book called Nudge which is actually the foundation for censorship techniques and so-called interventions on social media which are being funded to the tunes of tens of millions of dollars by a dozen different federal agencies for all these nudge techniques to get people to stop reading false and misleading news and to rig algorithms and to use AI machine learning techniques to be able to create topographical maps of misinformation communities And, you know, Cass Sunstein, I believe, is currently at DHS, and his wife is Samantha Power, the head of USAID.

00:40:55.000 And USAID is the largest facilitator of clandestine operation funding for the Central Intelligence Agency, and USAID is the premier U.S.

00:41:06.000 vehicle for capacity building in Ukraine, as well as in a bunch of other places.

00:41:11.000 USAID actually custom-built the digital identity system called the DIA app, which was called a state and a smartphone, which was funded and developed by USAID To create a digital identity, basically a counterinsurgency tool for political dissidents in Ukraine, tying their social media to their bank accounts, so that the US Embassy there, effectively, has basically a heat map of when people are saying things online that might undermine the domestic consensus in Ukraine against, we'll just say, a president who may be influenced by interests abroad.

00:41:49.000 It's absolutely crazy how many underhanded techniques that they're using simultaneously while tracking everyone's viewpoints, tracking everyone's opinion, and then slowly nudging it in a direction that they want you to perceive, that they want you to think.

00:42:02.000 And this is why I think we have to be very careful and think critically about what we see on social media algorithms, because those are also highly manipulated.

00:42:11.000 As Facebook works with the State Department, works with Intel agencies to specifically curate information, as they were even doing psychological studies there trying to manipulate people's emotions to see how far they could go just by simply deciding on what to show people and what not to show people.

00:42:29.000 I actually talked to Cass Sunstein.

00:42:31.000 I brought his own document to him and I said, look, you're talking about doing all these covert, underhanded, really immoral things to control the narrative and the discourse in this country.

00:42:41.000 And he said, I never said it.

00:42:42.000 I was like, it's right here, buddy.

00:42:45.000 He never, and again, totally denied it.

00:42:47.000 This is the game they play.

00:42:49.000 These powerful governmental officials will say something publicly, and then when it turns out bad, they'll just, I never said that.

00:42:57.000 And that's, it's infuriating, but I guess all I can really say is that it's our job to get those videos and get those statements out to the public to prove they're liars.

00:43:06.000 Oh, and a great example of this, you know, you can go to YouTube right now and type in the search term psychological vaccination, which is a concept and a nudge technique which is being funded to the tune of tens of millions by the State Department, the DoD, and the National Science Foundation, and you can see these Government-funded, computational mad scientists for the purpose of censorship and stopping people from expressing populist political opinions.

00:43:33.000 And literally, they say that the goal is behavioral modification and psychological inoculation against misinformation.

00:43:41.000 And they have all these different techniques for doing it, which involve basically weapons-grade, they call it pre-bunking, but it's basically like the world's most Indefensible form of strawmanning.

00:43:52.000 It's like we know they're going to be exposed to these arguments and they're probably going to believe them because they're probably true. 0.97

00:43:57.000 So what we need to do is before they hear them, we're going to expose them to a really stupid version of it.

00:44:03.000 And we're going to force-feed them the talking points just to show all the ways that a little incomplete version of that is... Once they've absorbed that, we give them the next part in the argument. 0.98

00:44:12.000 We strawman the ever-loving hell out of that.

00:44:14.000 We give them talking points for that.

00:44:15.000 We put, they have this whole concept called media literacy or digital literacy, which

00:44:20.000 is also getting tens of millions of dollars.

00:44:21.000 It's being rolled out in schools.

00:44:23.000 It's something called the SIFT method, so that people don't even do critical thinking,

00:44:26.000 they just sift through the top ten results of Google and Wikipedia.

00:44:30.000 I mean, they're basically training a population of each.

00:44:33.000 But I just want to add to this really quickly, because another way that they reinforce this

00:44:36.000 is they have bots and sock puppet accounts that reinforce these particular ideas to gaslight

00:44:41.000 people to believe in something that they wouldn't naturally believe themselves, because they're

00:44:44.000 thinking and seeing on social media, everyone else likes this, everyone else thinks this

00:44:48.000 way, and that's how they manipulate the conversation.

00:44:50.000 conversation as well as also creating fake ideas that are crazy conspiracy

00:44:53.000 theories in order to destroy an argument before it's even made. And we'll see in

00:44:57.000 say like the New York Times, as you pointed out, the stupidest version of a 0.99

00:45:01.000 story, someone on the on the right, typically it's how it goes, will say 0.99

00:45:05.000 something like, you know, Donald Trump was proposing Congress pass a bill that

00:45:10.000 would fund X amount of dollars. 0.97

00:45:11.000 Then the New York Times will write, It is the stupidest idea in the world that we would have Donald Trump fund X plus Y amount of dollars. 0.82

00:45:19.000 They add something slightly to it which alters the idea. 1.00

00:45:22.000 They find the stupidest iteration, they find stupid people on Twitter, or they fabricate the tweets themselves. 1.00

00:45:27.000 And then you'll have something like, Conservatives are defending Donald Trump having, you know, kicked a dog! 1.00

00:45:33.000 And then it'll be some random accounts with no followers saying Trump should kick dogs.

00:45:36.000 And you're like, what?

00:45:38.000 Who are these people?

00:45:39.000 Then when it comes out that there's a bill being passed like end dogfighting or something, the average person has already been exposed to a fake version of the story, and they believe the fake version.

00:45:47.000 That's why Ian brought this up yesterday.

00:45:49.000 He said as soon as he saw one story came out, he knew he immediately had to call his mom and stop her and tell her what was going on before she saw the fake news.

00:45:56.000 Well that's exactly it.

00:45:57.000 Every single operative in the field of mis- and disinformation studies starts from a first premise, and they talk about this so openly, that if people are exposed to misinformation flush.

00:46:08.000 If it hits them full-on and there's not an intervention or some sort of filter or some sort... I mean this is the whole reason that they started doing fact-check affixing to social media posts.

00:46:19.000 So that there was some sort of annotation so that you never got the opposing side's argument flush.

00:46:25.000 It never landed completely because there was some way to add friction to it or some way that there was, you know, a ghost in the machine essentially telling you that's not really true even though you're reading with your own eyes.

00:46:36.000 And this is now a technique rolled out at every level and it's getting so much funding.

00:46:41.000 I mean it's If North Korea did this, we would be shocked at even North Korea's technological prowess to achieve that kind of Orwellian, you know, it's not even post-truth, it's post-brainpower.

00:46:55.000 So debunking, obviously so many people know that debunking is usually fake, they do this thing where they're like, this story's been debunked, and they don't even say, there's no fact-checking, there's no evidence.

00:47:05.000 One day someone will say, Joe Biden did thing, and the media will say, debunked.

00:47:09.000 And then it's like, how?

00:47:11.000 Where's your evidence?

00:47:13.000 And they'll just say, oh, that story's been debunked. 1.00

00:47:15.000 They will write every article saying, and the theory pushed by Republicans, comma, which has been debunked, comma, and it works, people are, there's many stupid people who fall for it. 1.00

00:47:25.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99

00:47:26.000 I mean, this is not just them trying to lie to the American people.

00:47:30.000 It gets much bigger and much deeper than this.

00:47:32.000 This is the promotion of mass hypnosis.

00:47:35.000 This is the promotion of psychological warfare that's being waged on the American people without their consent to deny them the truth and the reality that they live in every single day.

00:47:44.000 It's to preserve power. 0.97

00:47:46.000 It's to allow the government to do whatever they want with you, but if you dare to question what they did, or an incident where they hurt people, or where they screwed people over, or where they took your money, or when they robbed you, you can't even dare to question or ask about it because you're going to have this artificial intelligence Psychological warfare and and emotional manipulation gaslighting on your butt like white on rice saying no you're crazy conspiracy theorist you need to be denied access to speech you need to be downranked in the algorithm and usually you are which is absolutely freaking crazy! 0.96

00:48:17.000 Yeah, I mean, so the media is really supposed to exist in order to solve a very serious and important problem, which is that there are many things happening in the world at any given moment which affect all of us, but that we simply do not have the time to gather the information about ourselves in order to make informed decisions about.

00:48:36.000 Everyone in this room does this for a living, but your average person Working a normal nine-to-five or even more hours than that does not have time to sit down and sift through all of the information about every relevant news story.

00:48:47.000 Even those of us who do this for a living have to zero in on specific topics of interest and become well-versed in those because we can't know everything about everything that's happening in the news.

00:48:57.000 And that's why it's so important to have a media apparatus that you can trust but of course we don't have that in this country.

00:49:03.000 They've abused their power and they've used it in order to manipulate people so they throw information at you as you've all Expressed and mentioned here which contains incorrect information or which simply labels?

00:49:14.000 Information which is true as debunked with ever actually going into it and of course your average person I mean not only do they not have time but even if they did have time our brains are not designed for us to be able to Endlessly sit in front of a screen and sift through every story and retain all of the information and know whether or not we're being lied to so there's an important role for media and there's also a massive obligation and they've totally failed to live up to it in any It's not just to manipulate people, it's to mind control people, and we have to understand a lot of people, even in the alternative media, a lot of people who are unsuspecting of this are probably already victims of it.

00:49:52.000 Yeah, well, the less you realize that the media is trying to lie to you and manipulate you, the more susceptible you're going to be to that manipulation.

00:49:59.000 One thing I do find that's helpful, if there's a particular story There's a particular conservative talking point, for example, that the media is saying is untrue and it's far-right and it's been debunked.

00:50:09.000 And it doesn't have to be a conservative one.

00:50:11.000 It can literally be anything that the media is claiming isn't true.

00:50:14.000 Go look at the debunking.

00:50:15.000 Because what they'll usually do is centralize what they believe all of the best arguments against that story or position are.

00:50:24.000 They'll put them in one place.

00:50:26.000 they'll give you their most competent narrative spin, and usually even that is very easy to see

00:50:32.000 through. That's one thing I've done in the past when I'm researching stories. I will look up the

00:50:36.000 articles fact-checking the story, and if you can immediately see through the fact check,

00:50:42.000 that's a good indicator that they're lying to you. They don't have good arguments.

00:50:46.000 Politifact famously had two quotes, one from Bernie Sanders and one from Donald Trump,

00:50:52.000 which were effectively the exact same quote, and Bernie's was labeled mostly true and Trump's was

00:50:56.000 labeled mostly false.

00:50:57.000 That's right.

00:50:58.000 They had made a comment about the unemployment rate for, I think it was young black men, being around like 50% or some very high number.

00:51:06.000 PolitiFact, Bernie Sanders, mostly true, blah blah blah blah.

00:51:08.000 Donald Trump, same quote, mostly false.

00:51:11.000 Because what does mostly true or mostly false mean?

00:51:13.000 It's nothing, it's nebulous.

00:51:14.000 Well, it means useful to the regime or harmful to the regime, basically.

00:51:19.000 And even more shocking, the fact-checking industry is entirely government-sponsored.

00:51:25.000 PoliticFact gets money from the U.S.

00:51:27.000 State Department.

00:51:27.000 Pointer has like 65 government grants.

00:51:31.000 This is the national security state itself setting up these gargoyles within the news media ecosystem To censor the ability to proliferate ideas that might challenge the national security state's agenda, and if we're supposed to have a civilian-run government, but you now have this kind of quasi-military statecraft intelligence apparatus that if the people want to vote for something that they would have to be beholden to, they can in before it by basically blocking the ability to politically organize or to form a consensus because they can't even speak the words to make the point.

00:52:08.000 I want to jump to this story from Newsweek.

00:52:11.000 Donald Trump's properties will likely be auctioned off, attorney says.

00:52:16.000 So where are we?

00:52:17.000 Where are we currently?

00:52:18.000 We're at the point where the former president has been, uh, is facing 91 indictments.

00:52:22.000 He's been charged.

00:52:24.000 He is facing, I guess, the rest of his life in prison.

00:52:27.000 His lawyers are facing several, uh, it could be decades in prison.

00:52:32.000 They're sanctioning other lawyers who made arguments on his behalf.

00:52:36.000 They're targeting Trump supporters as MAGA extremists.

00:52:39.000 The FBI is targeting Trump's supporters.

00:52:41.000 If you're a Trump voter or Trump follower, you're an extremist according to the FBI.

00:52:45.000 This is a leap from where we've seen it before.

00:52:47.000 And now we're hearing that after a judge summarily ruled that Donald Trump must dissolve the Trump Organization and several New York companies, a former attorney out of New York, is saying that likely what they'll do is they're going to liquidate and auction off his properties.

00:53:02.000 Donald Trump's properties will likely be liquidated and sold off at auction after a judge found he committed fraud, New York's former assistant attorney general has said.

00:53:10.000 So it's not just some attorney, it's the former assistant attorney general.

00:53:13.000 Tristan Snell was speaking after a court found that the former president had massively inflated the value of some of his properties and ordered that some Trump companies involved be stripped of their corporate licenses.

00:53:24.000 The worst outcome that could have come from this case has already been handed down.

00:53:28.000 And that is for the corporate licenses to be cancelled.

00:53:31.000 The properties are likely going to be liquidated.

00:53:33.000 The properties are probably going to be sold at auction.

00:53:35.000 That's probably what is going to happen.

00:53:37.000 We don't know that for sure, but that is probably where this is headed, so Trump is already really, really in trouble.

00:53:43.000 Did the courts prove that Donald Trump committed fraud?

00:53:46.000 They didn't.

00:53:47.000 The AG said, here's our argument.

00:53:50.000 Donald Trump's team said, we have an argument.

00:53:52.000 And the judge said, I don't care.

00:53:55.000 Bang the gavel. 0.71

00:53:55.000 Summary judgment. 0.71

00:53:56.000 You did commit fraud because I said so.

00:53:58.000 That's it.

00:53:59.000 Luke, I'm with you.

00:54:00.000 Make this man Speaker of the House.

00:54:02.000 Now they could effectively seize and auction off his properties and just strip him of his wealth?

00:54:08.000 You know, I don't view Donald Trump as doing all of this for himself in terms of financial gain, because he ain't getting it.

00:54:18.000 He's losing it.

00:54:19.000 But I wonder if Donald Trump is doing this for himself because he is filled with a blind rage and wants revenge, and I'll take it.

00:54:26.000 Yeah, I mean, look, he knows that these people have done basically everything to try to screw him over and screw the American people over, and it's very important for the powers that be that you, as an average person watching what's happening in the media, know that this is what happens to people who stand up to them.

00:54:41.000 This is what people who are a thorn in the side of the establishment are going to have to go to in present-day America.

00:54:48.000 It's a very sad situation.

00:54:50.000 And we have to pray for him.

00:54:52.000 He's really going through a lot.

00:54:53.000 And I genuinely do believe that regardless of whether I agree with him on everything, and there are certainly things I disagree with him about, that he's doing a lot of this because he is angry with the injustices that the American people have faced at the hands of the establishment over the past several decades.

00:55:11.000 Kyle Serafin made a joke once that there's so many stacking human rights violations in this country now that the country we used to live in would do a land invasion of the country we currently live in.

00:55:22.000 No, I mean, there's some truth in that.

00:55:24.000 And when you look specifically at what's happening to Donald Trump, I think part of me wonders You mentioned earlier that the system is attacking him right now, and he is the lead candidate running for president right now.

00:55:39.000 I think those two things, while certainly being correlated, it's difficult for me to suss out whether that relationship is necessarily causal.

00:55:46.000 And I don't know that you were implying that it was, but on some level, it seems to me important to them to go after the frontrunner, if the frontrunner is challenging the establishment.

00:55:53.000 On the other hand, I also wonder if, even if Trump was in last place, they would still be doing this, because they have to punish those who stand up to the regime.

00:56:00.000 In many ways, this is... Oh, sorry.

00:56:01.000 No, no, no.

00:56:03.000 Well, let me just make one point.

00:56:04.000 I think you made a very interesting kind of observation because I do think if the United States saw what was happening inside of the United States, they would invade the United States in order to restore democracy and rule of law. 0.81

00:56:15.000 So it's a little bit ridiculous.

00:56:18.000 Again, I've been a critic of Donald Trump, but this is clear political prosecution. 0.84

00:56:23.000 This is clearly them doing everything in their power to try to stop him.

00:56:28.000 And the more that they do that, the more popular he becomes.

00:56:32.000 The more people support him in the polls, the more people want him to become president of the United States.

00:56:36.000 At what point do they realize that whoever they're trying to stop, They're also growing at the same time.

00:56:42.000 Exactly, and that goes hand-in-hand with what I was saying earlier.

00:56:46.000 If it was the other way around, right, and the media was talking about how Trump actually did nothing wrong and the system was going after him for unjust reasons, then maybe the American people wouldn't support him.

00:56:57.000 I think it's a combination of factors.

00:56:59.000 People don't trust the media anymore.

00:57:01.000 This goes hand-in-hand with what I was saying earlier about the fact that when they're Mar-a-Lago is not worth $20 million.

00:57:08.000 That is an absurdity on its face.

00:57:09.000 to use force. I mean, he is ahead in the polls. All of the slander has not been effective

00:57:15.000 at reducing his popularity. And so this is what they need to do.

00:57:19.000 Mar-a-Lago is not worth $20 million. That is an absurdity on its face. As a business

00:57:25.000 alone with no real estate assets, it's generating more than that per year. The real estate alone,

00:57:32.000 even if you want to argue that it's got covenants or tenants restricting its use in certain

00:57:37.000 It is still 17 and a half acres.

00:57:39.000 The judge is lying. 1.00

00:57:40.000 These people are evil and they are psychotic. 0.99

00:57:43.000 And what they are doing to Trump to seize his properties, to seize his money, is Communism 101. 0.95

00:57:50.000 If this really comes down to it, That they cancel the license of Trump's companies, they lose on appeal, and then they what, liquidate and auction them off?

00:57:57.000 At what, pennies on the dollar?

00:57:59.000 To strip Trump of his net worth?

00:58:01.000 Welcome to a whole new ballgame, ladies and gentlemen. 1.00

00:58:03.000 There's no way this judge is so stupid. 1.00

00:58:06.000 He doesn't know that he's lying. 1.00

00:58:08.000 He's just evil.

00:58:09.000 Well, and, you know, for your average person looking at this, again, they see Donald Trump, an actual billionaire, being handled in this way by the system, and I think it could cause them to despair, to go, well, if he's not able to get through this, right, if he's not able to leverage the economic power that he has to escape this kind of political prosecution, what hope is there for me?

00:58:30.000 In many respects, what we're seeing is actually worse than an assassination.

00:58:36.000 We've had assassinations in this country.

00:58:38.000 We've actually never had presidents indicted like this and having their entire lives destroyed via these liquidations and these gangbang of lawsuits from every direction.

00:58:49.000 But the fact is, When JFK got assassinated or when Abe Lincoln got assassinated, there was not an attempt to say this is a legitimate course of action.

00:59:02.000 You could say this is a tragedy, this is horrible, but it's a one-off thing that doesn't actually make me entirely lose faith in the legitimacy of the system because it wasn't system approved.

00:59:12.000 What we're seeing now is effectively an assassination.

00:59:15.000 And don't kid yourself.

00:59:17.000 He's facing 750 years in prison.

00:59:19.000 That's death.

00:59:21.000 That is capital punishment.

00:59:26.000 It's only 25 years for first-degree murder.

00:59:30.000 And he's facing 750 without even... on totally novel legal theories.

00:59:34.000 So what they're doing to the perceptions of legitimacy in this country by doing it this way is honestly An order of magnitude more shocking.

00:59:44.000 I wasn't alive for whatever was experienced during JFK, but I have to imagine that... I mean, how can anyone here forget this for the rest of their lives?

00:59:52.000 And there's always going to be a degree of cold anger about what they've done to this guy just for running for office.

01:00:00.000 Well, so here's the question for you guys, and maybe this is just a question of whether you see the glass half full or half empty, whether you're an optimist or pessimist, but do you think that this is going to terrify people and make them feel afraid to do anything because Trump can't escape these charges and they'll feel like they can't, or do you think this is going to edify people, this is going to make them angrier with the system, this is going to make them want to stand up to the powers that be?

01:00:20.000 I don't think either.

01:00:21.000 I think regular people are starting to get scared.

01:00:23.000 They don't want to stand up to anybody.

01:00:24.000 They want to be left alone.

01:00:26.000 When You know, I'm hanging out with some regular folks on the weekends, just apolitical, nothing to do with this, playing at the old poker tables.

01:00:34.000 And some lib guy said, I hate Donald Trump, but trying to get him off the bat, this is getting insane.

01:00:41.000 And I've heard sentiment like this quite a bit from regular people who are just like,

01:00:45.000 I don't like Donald Trump, I can't stand that guy.

01:00:47.000 But man, this is getting crazy.

01:00:49.000 And if you if you if you look at that perspective, and then go back to say 2020 or 2019, I heard

01:00:54.000 from a lot of people saying things like, I just want it all to stop.

01:00:58.000 Donald Trump won't shut his mouth. 0.98

01:00:59.000 He's so annoying. 0.91

01:01:00.000 A lot of people felt that everything happening in the culture war and in politics was the

01:01:06.000 fault of Donald Trump.

01:01:07.000 And that if they just voted for Biden, it would all stop.

01:01:11.000 And it would go back to us just plugging our ears and watching sports and letting Obama blow up kids and no one has to pay attention.

01:01:17.000 And then...

01:01:18.000 It got worse.

01:01:19.000 Not only did it get worse, the economy got worse, and now they won't stop.

01:01:24.000 Trump isn't even president anymore, and they're trying to put him in prison.

01:01:27.000 They're trying to seize his properties, and I think now what you're starting to see from regular people who thought voting for Biden would get them out of this is, these people who got rid of Trump, they're making it ten times worse, and now it's getting very scary, and I think a lot of these people might actually end up voting for Trump in fear, thinking, We need someone to stop the extremism and it's certainly, we were wrong.

01:01:49.000 Voting for Joe Biden exacerbated the problem.

01:01:52.000 So yeah, well I'll let you guys respond first before I interject with my point.

01:01:57.000 Do you think this is going to make people more afraid?

01:01:58.000 Do you think this is going to edify them?

01:02:00.000 I think looking at the poll numbers, I think a lot of people are saying, I'm just going to support this guy.

01:02:05.000 I think we're also reaching a situation where a lot of people are having their lives upended under this economy.

01:02:11.000 I think inflation has a big deal to have.

01:02:16.000 This kind of sentiment of people being pissed off.

01:02:19.000 People saying, hey, everything I had, everything I wanted to achieve in this life is becoming less and less achievable.

01:02:26.000 Groceries are becoming more and more expensive under this administration.

01:02:30.000 And now they're doing a huge power grab where they are trying to put their main political opponent in jail.

01:02:36.000 This is a bad sign for me.

01:02:38.000 This is a bad sign for my country, for my children.

01:02:40.000 And I think a lot of them are concerned.

01:02:41.000 I think a lot of them are also reaching a point where They're encroaching such poverty that they just don't give a damn.

01:02:48.000 They don't care.

01:02:49.000 They're pissed off.

01:02:50.000 I think a lot of these people probably won't vote for Trump, but they certainly won't vote for Biden or whoever the Democrat is because they're going to be thinking in their mind, I did this last time and it got worse.

01:02:58.000 Just leave me alone, please.

01:02:59.000 I'm scared.

01:03:00.000 Yeah, I mean, one thing I would say to anyone who's afraid of standing up to the system in any kind of meaningful way because of what's happening to Donald Trump is that when you appease the left, you show them that the tactic that they're using works and they double down.

01:03:13.000 They only get worse.

01:03:14.000 Yeah, it's like a little kid screaming for ice cream.

01:03:16.000 If the kid has a temper tantrum and the mom's like, OK, OK, you can have more ice cream. 1.00

01:03:16.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:03:20.000 It's like, well, the kid's going to keep screaming.

01:03:22.000 Exactly.

01:03:22.000 They will never stop.

01:03:23.000 It's not like the radical left doesn't go, OK, you know, we got everything we wanted at this point.

01:03:27.000 We're going to stop for a while.

01:03:29.000 This was the line.

01:03:30.000 We're good.

01:03:31.000 Exactly.

01:03:32.000 We we gave us what we want.

01:03:34.000 So we're going to go away now.

01:03:35.000 We got halfway to communism, and we're going to stop here, and thank you for your time.

01:03:39.000 And then, even when they do get to communism, they'll say, well, this is not a perfectly functioning communist system, because, like, you're hiding some grain and feeding it to your family, so we have to keep pushing the ball.

01:03:49.000 No, in reality, they show up to your house when there's rumors that you have a chicken, or that your chicken died, and this is true in North Korea. 1.00

01:03:57.000 I did a documentary with Vice about North Korea, Interviewed some people who had actually driven through it, and they explained how if a cow dies, you can't touch it.

01:04:08.000 The state has to come and take the beef and distribute it evenly among all the people, which usually doesn't happen.

01:04:14.000 Usually what ends up happening is it gets stolen, you know?

01:04:18.000 It gets sent off to the fat cats and the people in power, but if you secretly take that animal and eat it, they'll put you in the gulag.

01:04:25.000 And what they said was, sometimes, the local- because everybody has to join the military.

01:04:29.000 Locals will keep it a secret, and then hide the animal and hope nobody finds out, or they'll bribe the local, you know, military guy or guard or whatever and say, we'll give you some beef if you just don't say it happened.

01:04:39.000 Exactly.

01:04:40.000 So this is one of the massive flaws with communism, and this is one thing I try to help people understand.

01:04:44.000 It is true that capitalism can result in a disordered centralization of property, but the problem is communism results in a centralization of property rights.

01:04:54.000 A small number of people get to own things because they're connected to certain government officials, or they're powerful enough bureaucrats, or they're able to do favors for the right people in the proper positions of power to get themselves whatever it is that they're after, and everyone else has no ability to own anything.

01:05:12.000 They have no say, they have no control, they have Nothing to show for their labor.

01:05:16.000 I got bad news on that front about the situation here, because the backbone of our interstate commerce law is a case called Wickard v. Filburn, which was a case that prohibited a farmer from being able to grow beyond a certain amount of food crop on his own property because of its impact on interstate commerce.

01:05:39.000 When you mentioned the cow, I thought, well, call that grain, and that's actually the architecture of all of these restrictions on personal freedom on grounds of, well, it impacts interstate commerce and thus It's almost like a for the collective, you know, for the collective good, you know, there are these limitations.

01:06:02.000 And I'm not even saying that that's, you know, there is a school of thought, there is something to that, but, you know, there's a lot of similarities to foreign tyrannical systems that That are very close to this one that we're living under right now, especially when you look at what Monsanto did with its seeds and its pollination that they were able to, of course, force on local farms and then slowly, surely take them over and tax and regulate them.

01:06:31.000 So clearly, this is a hijacked system that just makes up the rules and laws whenever they want.

01:06:36.000 And this is something that I've been saying for a very long time.

01:06:38.000 There's counties right now in the United States where you can't even collect rainwater.

01:06:44.000 You can't even grow your own food.

01:06:45.000 You can't even have a chicken.

01:06:47.000 And that to me is absolutely absurd.

01:06:50.000 Yep.

01:06:52.000 So it was the cow in North Korea?

01:06:54.000 So that was just one story I heard.

01:06:56.000 But that's communism, man.

01:06:58.000 You know, right now you've got the AOC wanting to increase tax on the top 5% of income earners in New York City, arguing that, well, it's all the rich people.

01:07:09.000 The issue is the top 5% of income earners in New York City make about $250,000 a year.

01:07:14.000 That's a good money.

01:07:15.000 I'm not saying these people are by any means broke.

01:07:18.000 But we're not talking about the 1% anymore.

01:07:19.000 What's happening is, as the wealthy leave, the tax base flees.

01:07:23.000 And wealthy people pay the bulk of taxes.

01:07:28.000 So when you start cranking up taxes, and New York City is already super expensive because they have a city income tax, wealthy people seeing crime, Basically ask themselves, why am I paying a 4% premium to live in a city that is worse than most other places?

01:07:42.000 They don't.

01:07:43.000 Now all of a sudden you're losing all this tax revenue, the city gets strained, services get worse, so what do they do?

01:07:43.000 They leave.

01:07:49.000 They reach deeper down to the bottom of the barrel.

01:07:51.000 Now they're saying not the 1%, not saying the 5%.

01:07:53.000 This means that if you're a dude who makes $130k a year and you marry a woman and you both work full-time, And you're making $250,000 as a married couple.

01:08:02.000 She wants to tax you more. 1.00

01:08:05.000 The average rent for a one-bedroom in New York City is like $4,000.

01:08:09.000 So you're gonna have about $8,000 left over, and that's not disposable.

01:08:12.000 You gotta pay for your food, you gotta pay for utilities, you gotta pay for fuel, you gotta pay public transport, whatever that may be.

01:08:18.000 And then let's say, well, healthcare, of course.

01:08:19.000 It's gonna be another $1,000 or more.

01:08:22.000 Then you gotta pay if we don't have a family.

01:08:23.000 Okay, well, you're gonna end up with a couple thousand bucks per month for savings or something like that.

01:08:27.000 And again, I'm not saying these people are hurting.

01:08:30.000 What's happening now is, that's like what was supposed to be middle class. 0.99

01:08:35.000 Having a little bit left over so you can plan a vacation for the end of the year and have a retirement account.

01:08:40.000 AOC is targeting people who are just barely past this threshold in New York City under the assumption that, what, it's all a bunch of single childless millennials who are making $250k and they gotta pay more in taxes?

01:08:50.000 Yeah, well, I mean, even so, yeah, $250K is a lot of money, but the government is taking in plenty of money right now when they waste it, and there's actually some evidence that the government taking in more money results in an increase in debt, because statistical trends show that, historically, for every dollar the government gets in revenue, it spends $1.33.

01:09:09.000 So this is something we've seen repeatedly over time.

01:09:11.000 They get more money and then they spend more.

01:09:13.000 We saw this with the Trump tax cuts, as a matter of fact.

01:09:15.000 The left kept arguing, Trump cut taxes and we saw a decrease in revenue.

01:09:19.000 That's not true.

01:09:19.000 We actually saw a 5% increase in revenue as a result of his tax cuts because the economy became more productive because more people were working because they got to keep more of their income.

01:09:28.000 And so even off of smaller assessments, even off of a lower tax rate, the government was generating more revenue.

01:09:34.000 The problem is, spending increased 10% when that revenue increase went up 5%, and so we did end up with more of a deficit after the Trump tax cuts.

01:09:43.000 But it wasn't because we lost revenue, it was because they spent all of the revenue gains plus more.

01:09:48.000 But my point is, expect them to keep digging deeper and deeper.

01:09:52.000 Absolutely.

01:09:53.000 After this, they're going to say the top 10% of income earners.

01:09:55.000 Yep.

01:09:56.000 And then eventually, the top 10% of income earners are going to be making $10 more than the average income earner.

01:10:02.000 When they flatten income and everyone in New York is only making $15 an hour, who will be the top 1%?

01:10:08.000 There won't be one.

01:10:09.000 Well, I guess there will be.

01:10:10.000 It'll be you.

01:10:11.000 You will all be the high end.

01:10:12.000 You'll be making $16 an hour and you'll be the 1% and they're going to tax you for it.

01:10:15.000 So abolish the IRS, right?

01:10:18.000 This is state.

01:10:19.000 Let's go back to 1913.

01:10:19.000 This is city.

01:10:20.000 This is a city, though.

01:10:21.000 This is New York City.

01:10:22.000 New York City tax, state tax, and federal tax is what people have to deal with there, and on average pay around, I think, close to, what, 50% of their income of their personal profits that they, of course, worked hard for.

01:10:34.000 Why work?

01:10:35.000 Why work when the government's taken more than half Exactly.

01:10:37.000 And not just why work, but why stay?

01:10:39.000 Why not go to a more rational state?

01:10:41.000 New York is not exactly in a good negotiating position right now to start asking the people living there for more money.

01:10:46.000 Do you guys remember that story?

01:10:47.000 I don't know if it's true or not, but it's a good story.

01:10:49.000 This woman had a viral TikTok where she explained a professor was talking about capitalism and communism and issued a wager to the students saying, We'll try out communism. 0.80

01:10:59.000 Everybody will take their final, or their midterm or whatever, and then we'll average out the grades and give everyone an equal grade.

01:11:07.000 And a bunch of people are like, no, no, we don't want to do that.

01:11:09.000 And a bunch of people are like, yeah, okay, let's do it.

01:11:11.000 What ended up happening is the people who busted their asses and studied and hit the nail on the head with a hammer, ended up getting B's. And the people who did barely

01:11:20.000 anything were like, this is great, I got a B.

01:11:22.000 Then, the people who did really well and held the average high said, what was the point of doing all

01:11:27.000 that work if I ended up not even getting ahead because of it? I just wasted my time for no reason.

01:11:32.000 So what happened? The next time they ended up doing some, you know, the next test that came around,

01:11:37.000 everyone ended up getting a C. Now everyone's pissed off and complaining about how this is

01:11:41.000 running. And then the next test, everyone failed.

01:11:43.000 Because everyone started saying, what's the point of working if I'm not going to get ahead because of it?

01:11:48.000 Why would I hurt myself and struggle and not be rewarded for it?

01:11:52.000 And that's the problem of communism.

01:11:55.000 It's not so much I certainly think there are Marxists and Communists who want to foment the system. 0.99

01:12:00.000 But I think when you look at what AOC represents, there is a banality of Communism, there is the blind ignorance of marching towards Communism by people who are too stupid and too, uh, they're first-order thinkers. 0.98

01:12:13.000 AOC, for example. 1.00

01:12:14.000 I think she's, she lies a lot, I think that's evil, but I also think she's really stupid. 0.99

01:12:18.000 So what ends up happening is, What is she saying now? 1.00

01:12:21.000 She signed onto a pledge from the Democratic Socialists to raise, they want taxes raised on the top 5% of New York, and that's where we're at.

01:12:28.000 10 years ago it was the 1%, now it's the 5%.

01:12:31.000 When there's no one left to tax, you have to tax everyone else.

01:12:36.000 It's easy to say the 1% they raise taxes.

01:12:39.000 Now, the 1% leaves, revenue goes down, the 5%, then the 10, then the 20, then the 25, then the top 50%.

01:12:46.000 Then it's class war.

01:12:48.000 Then it's just people fleeing, and you get open-air drug markets, you get exactly what we're seeing now, and once a system breaks, they then come in and say, give us absolute control to solve this problem.

01:12:59.000 We need to come in with strong military force and security to clean up the streets, give us the power.

01:13:05.000 Well, of course, the irony is that the more they tax people, once they hit that revenue maximizing point in the Laffer curve and continue to go further, which they, I would argue, have long ago, an increase in taxes actually starts to result in less revenue in certain circumstances.

01:13:24.000 So when things get really bad and they start dipping lower and lower and say top 10%, top 20%, etc., what happens is not only do they start taking in less revenue because people leave

01:13:33.000 the city or they aren't working as hard or more people lose their job or employers can't

01:13:38.000 afford to continue to hire people, then the government has less revenue and more of that

01:13:43.000 revenue ends up being spent on the corrupt bureaucrats who are sabotaging the system and trying to

01:13:48.000 pull from it as much as they possibly can before it totally collapses so that people get a whole

01:13:52.000 lot less. People like AOC, and these leftists, they don't understand how taxes work.

01:13:58.000 Raising taxes decreases tax revenue.

01:14:01.000 And if you're a first-order thinker and not very bright, you go, huh?

01:14:06.000 It's kind of like the people on Twitter who are like, uh, food comes from the store, dude.

01:14:09.000 It's like, no, food comes from a variety of places.

01:14:12.000 First, there's a farm.

01:14:13.000 Then there is a distribution.

01:14:15.000 Then there's packaging, right?

01:14:17.000 It goes through a lot of different phases before it finally makes it to your store.

01:14:20.000 But the reason raising taxes typically will decrease tax revenue If you have a dollar, and tax is 5 cents, 5%, and I give someone the dollar, they gotta give a nickel to the government, but they still have 95 cents.

01:14:32.000 So they trade that 95 cents, and now someone's gonna give, you know, a 4.8 or whatever, or whatever the math is, another fraction.

01:14:39.000 So the government, in these two transactions, ends up getting slightly more than the one transaction.

01:14:43.000 The simple way it works is if you tax someone at 50% and then someone trades their dollar,

01:14:48.000 you take half of it, then the next person only has 50 cents, they can't afford to buy

01:14:52.000 anything so they sit on it.

01:14:53.000 The government made 50 cents.

01:14:56.000 If the tax is lower, everyone keeps trading all the way around until they get down to

01:15:00.000 50 cents and the government has taken a slightly higher percentage.

01:15:03.000 So the easiest way to explain this is, the story I was told was that there was a Home

01:15:08.000 Depot in Cook County, Illinois that shut down and reopened in DuPage County like 5 miles

01:15:15.000 away.

01:15:16.000 And they spent a couple million dollars to do this.

01:15:18.000 And the reason was, when the county raised taxes by, I think, like .2% or something, like .02%, some tiny number, If you're talking about a fraction of a percent, but you're spending millions of dollars on supplies and orders through Home Depot for your contracting work, you can save a couple hundred bucks or a couple thousand dollars.

01:15:35.000 You will drive a couple miles per day to pick up your supplies.

01:15:37.000 It doesn't matter that much.

01:15:38.000 So what ends up happening is, they raise taxes, trade drops off, now the government's getting up 50% of zero is zero.

01:15:46.000 Whereas 5% of a dollar is 5 cents.

01:15:49.000 You'd rather have the 5 cents.

01:15:50.000 But this is what they do.

01:15:51.000 This is where we're going.

01:15:52.000 And I also want to point something out here about AOC.

01:15:52.000 Absolutely.

01:15:55.000 Tim, you mentioned that it's, what, $200,000 or more per year?

01:15:56.000 $250,000.

01:15:56.000 So $250,000.

01:15:56.000 or more per year. 250. So 250. AOC makes what 175,000 a year and she was

01:16:03.000 complaining that it was unacceptable that she had $17,000 in student debt. If

01:16:07.000 you're making $175,000 a year and you're a single person, you don't have children,

01:16:13.000 you don't have dependents, then you should be able to handle $17,000 in debt,

01:16:18.000 We're talking $175,000 a year.

01:16:19.000 That's a lot of money, though, but... No, no, no, no, no.

01:16:22.000 Bro, bro, bro, come on.

01:16:25.000 Okay, she has a Tesla.

01:16:26.000 You're right.

01:16:27.000 She gotta pay that carpet. 1.00

01:16:28.000 She has to pay that off, yeah. 0.52

01:16:29.000 No, exactly.

01:16:30.000 So, my point is, she can't afford this $17,000 a year, even though she makes, or not $17,000 a year, $17,000 total in debt, when she has $175,000 coming in each year, and she's gonna sit here and lecture us about how people could be paying more money for social programs that they didn't sign up for, when she chose to take that debt out herself! 0.99

01:16:49.000 I will say, to be fair, Teslas actually aren't that expensive.

01:16:51.000 Not as expensive as they used to be.

01:16:53.000 Yeah, I think she has a Model 3 and it's like $30,000, which is crazy to think because... That's unacceptable that she owes $30,000 on that.

01:16:59.000 No, no, it's crazy that cars have gotten that expensive.

01:17:04.000 The cost of cars is nuts right now.

01:17:06.000 It's great that Elon Musk is dropping the prices of all the Teslas repeatedly, but it's crazy when you go to dealerships and you see the inventory's gone and the price is through the roof.

01:17:17.000 Yeah, you'll live in the pod and you'll eat the bugs, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

01:17:20.000 Delicious.

01:17:22.000 And I don't see how we avoid the living in the pod and eating the bugs thing.

01:17:28.000 Yeah.

01:17:29.000 Do you think only the rich will eat meat?

01:17:31.000 Everyone else on the pod?

01:17:32.000 I think you're going to be at a restaurant, and you're going to be sitting there talking with your friends and laughing.

01:17:32.000 Nope.

01:17:37.000 You're going to look over the menu, and you're going to say, I'll do the branzino.

01:17:41.000 And they're going to go, excellent choice, sir.

01:17:43.000 And then they're going to walk out with a plate full of mashed roaches, and they're going to put it down, and you're going to go, ah!

01:17:49.000 Norlink on the fritz.

01:17:50.000 And you're going to flick it, and then it's going to go, whoop!

01:17:52.000 And then you're going to see the roaches turn into a branzino.

01:17:56.000 You are actually, so someone's going to be like, I'll do the flourless chocolate cake with the vanilla ice cream.

01:18:03.000 Excellent.

01:18:03.000 And they're going to bring out cockroach mash, and they're going to put it in front of you, and you won't see that.

01:18:08.000 You will see chocolate cake, and you'll be, you know, eating it like, mmm, oh, it's so delicious.

01:18:12.000 And then anybody without the Neuralink, they're going to see the roach legs smattered to your face, and like, and the roach gunk on your face, you're like, mmm, licking it off.

01:18:19.000 They don't even need to go that far.

01:18:22.000 They don't need to go that far.

01:18:23.000 They get people to call men women all the time.

01:18:26.000 They've just changed our vernacular so much and put social pressure on people to not disagree with them when they state obvious mistruths.

01:18:35.000 I got a bone to pick out all of your vernaculars because you guys have been saying theft wrong this whole time, okay?

01:18:41.000 And this theft is so insidious.

01:18:43.000 There's property theft, there's sales theft, there's restaurant theft, there's hotel theft.

01:18:47.000 There's so much theft going on right now that it's absolutely disgusting because it stops the free market for one being free, but also stops individuals from solving problems and being there for each other and communities and robbing them of any freedom.

01:19:00.000 Back to the point, I don't think necessarily it'll be Neuralink, I don't know.

01:19:04.000 I think if they get to the point where Neuralink can be wireless, this will happen.

01:19:08.000 But my point is...

01:19:10.000 Right now, the Taco Bell near me, we were flying back, and we were driving past Taco Bell, and Seamus insisted that we live mas.

01:19:19.000 I said we have to live mas right now.

01:19:20.000 You guys are sick of this stuff.

01:19:21.000 Pull over, we have to live mas!

01:19:22.000 And we did.

01:19:22.000 You seed oil guzzlers.

01:19:24.000 You were literally drinking seed oil earlier.

01:19:26.000 Yes, okay.

01:19:27.000 So anyway, we went there.

01:19:28.000 On another trip, we went inside, not with Seamus this time, and it was kiosks.

01:19:33.000 There were human beings behind the counter, but they're just making food, and you go to a kiosk to order.

01:19:38.000 Give it 10 or 20 years, you're gonna walk into Taco Bell, and it's going to say, uh, you know, you're gonna type in, I'll do a cheesy gordita crunch, extra sauce, checkout, and it's gonna say NeuralPay, and you're gonna be like, uh, there's nobody here.

01:19:54.000 There's no humans.

01:19:56.000 I don't have NeuralPay, I only have my credit card on me.

01:19:58.000 And it's gonna say, we no longer accept credit cards at this time.

01:20:02.000 You either get it or you don't.

01:20:04.000 I've thought about something weirdly a lot and I'm curious for your guys' opinion on it.

01:20:09.000 What happens to the ad tech world in a fully saturated Neuralink world?

01:20:15.000 In the sense that, you know, like Google AdWords Totally changed the way search happened on the internet because it all became all about the word you're searching for and you monetize the specific words.

01:20:27.000 Billions of dollars of advertising go into bidding on words when the interface moves from words to thoughts.

01:20:36.000 It's like I can almost- It's still words though.

01:20:38.000 But I can imagine, but those are going to get tagged to basically like neural activity.

01:20:45.000 And you're going to have signatures of neural activity associated with those words.

01:20:48.000 You're going to basically have like bidding on neural signatures, like very directly.

01:20:52.000 I think the bigger issue with Neuralink advertising is going to be the discovery of, we already know this, but the degrees of cognitive faculties, I suppose.

01:21:05.000 I don't want to say IQ necessarily, but there are Different metrics by which we assess an individual's brain capacity.

01:21:15.000 IQ being one of them.

01:21:16.000 There's also visualization examples.

01:21:18.000 The one where they show an apple.

01:21:21.000 And they say, when you think of an apple, what do you see?

01:21:24.000 And then the first one is a vivid, photorealistic apple.

01:21:27.000 The next one is a flat, two-dimensional apple.

01:21:29.000 The next one is a black and white outline.

01:21:31.000 And the next one is nothing.

01:21:32.000 And there are a lot of people who have responded to these saying, like, you can see an apple when you think it?

01:21:38.000 Some people can't.

01:21:39.000 Some people report not having an inner monologue.

01:21:42.000 And I've met people, they say that they don't have an inner monologue, and I'm like, so what do you think when you think?

01:21:49.000 Like, if you're not thinking in pictures, words, sounds, and like visualization, what are you thinking?

01:21:54.000 And they're like, I don't know, just thoughts, I guess.

01:21:58.000 What I've experienced in talking to people about this is that some people think in pictures, some people think in sounds, some people think in images of the words themselves, and some people report none of this.

01:22:09.000 Some people in their minds are talking to themselves as they think, and some people are not.

01:22:14.000 Some people have multi-track minds, and some people don't.

01:22:17.000 So when it comes to Neuralink, and they begin to try and track your brain activity for ads, it's gonna be interesting when they find people who get into Neuralink, they're gonna say, and whether you want them to or not, These AI companies, these big tech companies, if Neuralink-type devices, human-brain interfaces, brain-computer interfaces, become ubiquitous, they will absolutely track your cognitive level.

01:22:41.000 It's going to be like the Human Genome Project, but for neural activity.

01:22:45.000 To create a comprehensive map of all the different words, phrases, ideas, they'll be able to track dissonant groups by the signatures of... Easily.

01:22:57.000 The crazy thing is... Very frightening.

01:22:59.000 Have you seen Captain America Winter Soldier?

01:23:02.000 I've seen some of it.

01:23:03.000 This is the movie where there's a secret conspiracy, a government conspiracy, to mass-execute dissident thinkers.

01:23:11.000 And the plan is to launch gigantic warships that will instantly target anyone who is deviant and execute them instantly with a bunch of guns, just like a hail of gunfire.

01:23:22.000 It's the AI.

01:23:23.000 An AI will know you are gonna vote for Trump before you even consider voting for Trump yourself.

01:23:29.000 It's the Dia app we installed in Ukraine.

01:23:31.000 I mean, in a sense.

01:23:32.000 Facebook knows when you poop.

01:23:34.000 Facebook knows when you're gonna go to the bathroom before you even know you're gonna go to the bathroom.

01:23:37.000 Because...

01:23:40.000 AI, it's truly remarkable.

01:23:41.000 It sees things that we don't notice.

01:23:44.000 Right?

01:23:44.000 When you go outside, and you look at the... Actually, one of my favorite points to be made to people, there's two stories.

01:23:49.000 The one is, the Native Americans on the islands in the Caribbean, in the Bahamas, could not see Christopher Columbus's ships. 0.95

01:23:56.000 Their ships were on the horizon, headed towards the island, and they didn't know it was happening.

01:24:01.000 Despite them being there, visible, plain to any human, They did not register until there were like there was like an elder or shaman who was sitting there watching the waves and then one day looked up and said There's a very large boat and they were like what where right there see it and they were like No, I don't see that thing right there.

01:24:19.000 Do you see it?

01:24:19.000 Like I can't see anything.

01:24:21.000 This is a story they tell And the reason they say that the elders were able to notice it is because many of these tribes and different societies would map waves.

01:24:33.000 By tracking the direction of the wave, you actually know where islands are and where other landmasses are.

01:24:39.000 So when these big ships are creating wake and creating waves, the masters were like, hey, wait a minute, something's there!

01:24:46.000 But it wasn't within their comprehension.

01:24:48.000 So what I like to do is when I'm driving in the middle of nowhere, and there is like a plane or whatever, let's say we're driving in rural Illinois through the Midwest.

01:24:57.000 As soon as I see a cell phone tower, I would always ask one of my friends, I'm like, what do you see right now?

01:25:02.000 And they'll go, what, where?

01:25:03.000 And I'd be like, right now, right now, just tell me everything you've seen.

01:25:05.000 Like, uh, grass in the street, the road, I don't know what you're talking about.

01:25:08.000 And I'm like, what else do you see?

01:25:09.000 What is right in front of us?

01:25:10.000 What is right there?

01:25:11.000 I'm like, dude, there's nothing.

01:25:12.000 What are you talking about?

01:25:13.000 I'm like, the giant 40-foot cell phone tower right there.

01:25:16.000 And they're like, oh, I didn't notice.

01:25:19.000 Most people don't even notice when they're driving past cell phone towers.

01:25:22.000 It's out of sight, out of mind.

01:25:24.000 This kind of thing blows my mind.

01:25:27.000 Now consider that as we enter the next phase of, you know, brain-computer interface, what we're going to be tracking in people's minds, what AI can notice that you can't.

01:25:38.000 If we can't even see a giant tower in front of us because it's immaterial to us, so we don't even register it, and we don't remember it being there, Think about all of the things we miss every single day.

01:25:50.000 Oh yeah.

01:25:50.000 You run these through AI.

01:25:52.000 Man, they're gonna be able to accurately predict weather perfectly.

01:25:57.000 Like right now it's like, well there's a front coming in here so this usually means weather and there's like an accuracy and it's like we think it might rain.

01:26:03.000 Nah, they're gonna be able, not only that, with a true masterful like quantum AI, they will be able to butterfly effect a hurricane.

01:26:13.000 They'll be able to track the entire global patterns by collecting all the data, and then look at all the variables and weed it down to, like, how did this hurricane form right here?

01:26:21.000 And then say, okay, we can see that stuff.

01:26:24.000 It's gonna be nuts.

01:26:25.000 Yeah, I was just gonna say, they won't be able to just predict.

01:26:28.000 They'll be able to manipulate and create a lot of the stuff that we're having to deal with.

01:26:33.000 And, you know, a lot of people talk about, you know, weather modification being crazy.

01:26:36.000 There's already a science to this.

01:26:38.000 The Chinese government is already using this.

01:26:41.000 And that's one element of this that doesn't even have to do with the social aspect of this doesn't have to do with the psychological aspect of this as of course the manipulation that is already underway probably involves components of artificial intelligence as we speak right now.

01:26:57.000 I don't know about you, but I think there's the possibility of a bigger conspiracy here and the possibility of a lot of technology that we're not even aware of already at use manipulating our thoughts and ideas as we speak right now.

01:27:11.000 What do you think?

01:27:12.000 Well, I mean, this is a threshold thing.

01:27:15.000 I was thinking about robot dogs recently, you know, those like black mirror dogs that got rolled out to like, you know, now just like regular city streets from time to time and are always sort of threatening to be the next sort of digital robo cop to replace street cops and I was thinking about that recently.

01:27:32.000 There's so much corruption in the Justice Department now, and there's so much, like, there's so many civil rights abuses from the National Security State, and law enforcement, and other branches of government, that it's almost like, well, pick your own adventure story, but for dystopia, it's like, in a way, they've made things so bad in the analog sphere that you almost Welcome the order of some of these digital things, because you know against the people who just want you dead because of your political opinions, you don't have a chance.

01:28:08.000 I'd almost rather have like an AI judge than the guy that Trump's up against who like starts the hearing by smirking for the camera.

01:28:19.000 We're against an attorney general like Letitia James who literally campaigned on indicting someone and is not recusing. 0.98

01:28:28.000 So the problem is, as we talk about digital dystopia, the problem is the analog dystopia is so bad now that We're already at 11.

01:28:40.000 I mean, this is break already.

01:28:42.000 I want to ask you, because you were at the State Department, how far does the rabbit hole go?

01:28:47.000 How bad is the U.S.

01:28:49.000 government?

01:28:50.000 Oh, well, we're gonna need a couple of years.

01:28:54.000 Define bad.

01:28:55.000 Like, what do you mean specifically, right? 0.51

01:28:57.000 Like, evil, incompetent?

01:29:00.000 What's your assessment from the inside of the State Department?

01:29:03.000 How much of it is malicious?

01:29:04.000 How much of it is just following orders?

01:29:06.000 How much of it is just ignorance?

01:29:09.000 And how sophisticated and complicated does it get?

01:29:12.000 And are we even able to imagine how bad it gets?

01:29:16.000 My colleagues at the State Department were actually some of the smartest people I met in government and outside of government.

01:29:23.000 There is an animating spirit of Machiavellian world conquest that permeates that institution in a way that it doesn't at HUD or even at the White House.

01:29:35.000 There is a sense of the bigness of the world and the interconnectedness of the world and the opportunities in the world to go region by region and Stack the deck in ways that are advantageous to the State Department stakeholders.

01:29:52.000 This is one of these things where until the 2016 election happened and the national security state, which has always, you know, come home in so many ways, you know, I mean, you can make an argument that even the Martin Luther King stuff and a lot of the COINTELPRO stuff was a proxy attack on the Vietnam War, you know, The FBI only got the counterintelligence predicate on him because of him being backed by Stanley Levison, who was said to be a sort of communist Soviet, and you had DOD and CIA involvement in that FBI activity as well.

01:30:25.000 There was always sort of a crackdown on this, but what they've done in the modern era has actually shook my I used to think that we've got this Department of Dirty Tricks, you know, that we started to set up after World War II.

01:30:42.000 You know, 1947 Act, we create the CIA, we change the name of the War Department to the Defense Department to make it sound like we're not doing war, we create this entire NGO swarm army, we create these incredible embeddings between the national security state and the media, a soft power projection apparatus that could effectively control the political economies of any country we capacity build.

01:31:04.000 And, but there was always sort of a sense, well, it's for the benefit of the people who live here.

01:31:09.000 The bigger the American empire gets, the better off Americans are.

01:31:13.000 More jobs are, you know, if Chevron does well, well, that's more people who's got jobs in Texas and in Oklahoma.

01:31:19.000 You know, if Pepsi-Cola does well, you know, that's more for shipping.

01:31:25.000 There was this, there was, at one point, there was a connective tissue between the people who live here and the empire abroad and at some point, you know, pick your evolution point in globalization, you know, whether that was, you know, in the seventies, whether that was in the nineties when the offshoring really hit the hay and, you know, China joined the WTO and cheap labor.

01:31:47.000 There were so many different points of departure from that.

01:31:52.000 But now it's almost completely removed.

01:31:54.000 And there's no better example of that than what's happening with the Biden family in Ukraine.

01:31:59.000 I mean, it is like a State Department operation.

01:32:04.000 To help a very small number of economic stakeholders.

01:32:07.000 I'm not even making a formal opinion on this.

01:32:09.000 I understand both sides of the Ukraine-Russia thing.

01:32:11.000 That's not my bag, so to speak.

01:32:14.000 I just care about freedom on the internet.

01:32:16.000 But in order to understand why it is that You get censored for talking about Ukraine stuff, or political movements who are proxies for that get censored, is because you now have a State Department vested interest in censoring U.S.

01:32:29.000 American voices.

01:32:30.000 Because if they get a Matt Gaetz in as Speaker, or if they get a sufficient enough caucus in the House Appropriations Committee to be able to kill funding, then there goes the war effort.

01:32:40.000 And then there goes the ability for Burisma to monetize the shale in the eastern region.

01:32:47.000 Or Chevron, Halliburton, Shell and Exxon, which all have billion-dollar gas contracts with the Ukrainian government.

01:32:54.000 All of that goes away if American people have sovereign capacities to think for themselves and decide with those free thoughts to have political representation that votes for that.

01:33:06.000 This is, there's no, after Smith was modernized and after, you know, after there's been no oversight, there's no Justice Department pushback, we're now in a brave new world where, you know, it's the State Department's world and we're living in it.

01:33:22.000 Very well said.

01:33:23.000 I like how you said stakeholders at the State Department because they're supposed to be representing the American people and they're clearly not.

01:33:30.000 Are you familiar with John Perkins and Confessions of an Economic Hitman?

01:33:34.000 And one to ten, how accurate is that?

01:33:37.000 Well, you know, it's, this is one of these things, I, you know, my responsibility was cyber.

01:33:41.000 You know, I, I didn't, I wasn't in control of, like, a regional desk.

01:33:44.000 I didn't do, like, you know, CEE, or, or MENA, or, like, or Middle East, North Africa.

01:33:48.000 I, it was, you know, I was focused on, on, on internet.

01:33:53.000 But, you know, The fact is, is what's reflected in there, you know, there's actually almost no better example of the validity of the John Perkins sort of theory of the world than a little operation known as the Integrity Initiative, which was a busted British intelligence operation

01:34:11.000 Starring folks like Ann Applebaum, Nina Jankovic, Bill Browder, Ben Nimmo, all these people who became the captains of censorship of the American internet, who had these links to British intelligence, and many of them were board members, several of them, on the National Endowment for Democracy, which is one of the country's oldest CIA cutouts.

01:34:30.000 They embarked in a basically internet censorship campaign in the name of stopping Russian propaganda after the Crimea annexation in 2014.

01:34:42.000 And they, one of the things, so it was run by a guy Christopher Donnelly, Connelly, who was a former MI6, high-ranking British military guy, and one of the internal documents and videos that came out in the leaks was countering The talking points related to the John Perkins sort of acolytes that actually the British state was doing this according to a very predictable playbook.

01:35:12.000 But the fact is you had this.

01:35:14.000 These weren't like random activists or college professors saying this.

01:35:19.000 These were former super heavyweight apex predators of the national security state.

01:35:25.000 plotting operations to stop the populace from believing a theory in a book that makes them look bad.

01:35:31.000 I mean, this is organized political warfare turned domestically, and anytime I see that, I trust the target of that far more than the prosecutor.

01:35:43.000 Yes.

01:35:45.000 Should we go to Super Chats?

01:35:46.000 Because it's already 9.35.

01:35:47.000 Nobody wanted to add to that?

01:35:48.000 I do, but I think we're past Super Chats as well.

01:35:51.000 I just assumed you were going to jump in.

01:35:51.000 We are.

01:35:52.000 All right, let's go to Super Chats!

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01:36:09.000 More information about that, uh, unfortunate incident in New York, and the political persuasions of the ind- uh, of the individuals who were victimized, and, uh, a lot to be said.

01:36:18.000 All right, Clint Torres says, howdy, people!

01:36:20.000 Howdy, Clint.

01:36:21.000 Thanks for the super chat.

01:36:23.000 I'm not your buddy guy. Oh, he was number two today, not number one.

01:36:26.000 Says I miss when I thought intel officers were like James Bond thwarting megalomaniacs,

01:36:30.000 when in reality, sadly, sadly, they would be helping those megalomaniacs.

01:36:34.000 Yeah, yeah, when you when you watch those movies and there's like,

01:36:38.000 a super villain twirling his mustache. Did you actually look DC Comics understood this, right?

01:36:46.000 You watch James Bond and you're like, ah, these industrialists turn out to be evil.

01:36:50.000 It's like, yeah, and in DC, Lex Luthor ran for president.

01:36:54.000 Because the supervillain understood political power, you know?

01:36:58.000 And as a way, evil people seek power, and they're going to seek it through legitimate means and then be evil once they get it, and doing illegitimate things.

01:37:05.000 Yeah, and especially when you have a really corrupt system, you actually start to select for the most evil possible people.

01:37:11.000 You kind of discussed this earlier when you were speaking about the tyrannical regimes.

01:37:14.000 We saw earlier in the 20th century, or I should say later in the 20th century or mid-20th century, where people end up having to become more selfish in order to survive.

01:37:24.000 I think the way the political system actually works today is not only do more corrupt people seek power, but we actually incentivize corruption because it's the best way to get ahead.

01:37:33.000 Here's a really good one.

01:37:34.000 Fatty Tang says, I know you're not a fan of the death penalty.

01:37:37.000 That's an understatement.

01:37:38.000 I oppose the death penalty.

01:37:39.000 Do you think criminals, if ruled of sound mind, should have the choice of life in prison or death?

01:37:45.000 That's a very well-crafted question.

01:37:48.000 And I'd lean towards yes.

01:37:50.000 I would.

01:37:51.000 But I actually think exile would have to be an option there as well.

01:37:55.000 It's not usually back in the day.

01:37:58.000 If you were found guilty of a crime, they would exile you.

01:38:02.000 And if you came back, then they would chase you out.

01:38:04.000 And so it's like, good luck surviving in the middle of nowhere.

01:38:07.000 But now, because everything is basically owned and controlled, there's nowhere to exile you to.

01:38:12.000 Suppose they could put you on a boat and kick you out of the ocean and say, good luck.

01:38:15.000 But for many people, that's preferable.

01:38:17.000 So that's why I said maybe, instead of the death penalty, we get a big island, we fortify it, secure it, and say, you've resigned yourself to this fate, we're not gonna kill you, but you're on your own.

01:38:26.000 You are excised from the benefits of society.

01:38:29.000 I mean, when someone is sentenced to life in prison, if you give them the option of the death penalty, what you're basically talking about at that point is assisted suicide for prisoners.

01:38:36.000 Exactly.

01:38:37.000 You're basically saying... So that's really the context of the discussion.

01:38:39.000 Should they be able to elect to end their own life?

01:38:42.000 And I think there's actually a good argument to be made, even if you believe in the death penalty, that that would be wrong.

01:38:47.000 Well, the issue is...

01:38:48.000 If somebody really wanted to end their own life, they don't need to ask you.

01:38:52.000 There's no reason to do that.

01:38:54.000 What are the suicide rates like in prison?

01:38:59.000 I've seen so many psychological studies about happiness on winning the lottery versus not, and there's sort of a mean reversion to a baseline over a certain period of time.

01:39:09.000 In my mind, I can't place it particularly, but I sort of have a weird vision of people who've talked on tape about being in the can for 35 years and they

01:39:18.000 don't necessarily look happier or sadder than I wonder, you know, is suicide in prison

01:39:23.000 even is that like a higher than I don't know, but I was having this thought recently when

01:39:29.000 we were watching, you know, I was reading about a bunch of crime and I was talking

01:39:34.000 about this with my friends.

01:39:35.000 For what reason did the founding fathers decide that we could not have cruel and unusual punishment?

01:39:42.000 And how would you define cruel and unusual punishment?

01:39:45.000 I certainly would make the argument that cruel punishment is pointless, because being cruel doesn't serve anything, we want rehabilitation.

01:39:52.000 But then you think about unusual forms of punishment, and I don't understand why that's wrong.

01:39:57.000 There have been numerous circumstances where judges have ordered young people, for instance, to hold a sign on the side of the road saying, you know, I committed a robbery or something like this.

01:40:05.000 And then I thought about this.

01:40:06.000 A lot of the crimes that we experience in Chicago are due to indignities and attacks on a person's honor.

01:40:14.000 A lot of people think it's gang related.

01:40:15.000 It's not. 1.00

01:40:16.000 The shootings in Chicago, a lot of them are like, a dude would go on social media and say, this dude's a weak loser, what a pathetic whiny little bitch, etc, etc. 1.00

01:40:24.000 So the other guy would be like, I'll show him, and they'd go shoot him up. 1.00

01:40:26.000 Then the police are like, you shot him up, now you're going to prison.

01:40:30.000 Which proves that he was strong and hard the whole time.

01:40:34.000 So here's the problem. 1.00

01:40:36.000 Someone says you're a loser. 1.00

01:40:37.000 The guy says, I'll kill you for it. 1.00

01:40:40.000 Then he gets arrested and goes to prison where he just looks hard to his, his peers. 0.99

01:40:44.000 And if they are in gangs, they're in prison with their gangs still operating.

01:40:49.000 And again, you know, I want to say I'm not advocating for this, but I do have a question.

01:40:54.000 When thinking about these things and these petty crimes, you look at these kids who are these, let's say kids, but like teenagers and young adults who are ransacking and rioting.

01:41:01.000 What if the punishment for mass looting was to be spanked in public while wearing a diaper?

01:41:06.000 If you're convicted and found guilty, they bring you out in public and they give you a spanking and then you're free to go.

01:41:12.000 I'm not saying we should do that, but...

01:41:15.000 I genuinely believe that would stop a large portion of the crime dead in its tracks.

01:41:20.000 Tim Watts, Running Man.

01:41:22.000 Thunderdome.

01:41:22.000 I don't know about Thunderdome, I'm just saying, like, the idea of facing an indignity in front of your peers is more terrifying than being locked up with your peers where you work with and harden yourself.

01:41:34.000 Jails and prisons where there are gangs operating and selling drugs as it is and still doing their illegal activities, in the minds of many of the people that I knew in Chicago, it was just like, They would say things like, when I go to jail, I'm gonna... Kids in the South Side were like, resigned themselves to assume they would be in jail at some point, and it was totally fine, it was considered normal, and they didn't fear it or hate it at all.

01:41:57.000 But the idea that they would be stripped of their dignity in public terrified them to the point where a lot of these kids in Chicago kill over someone besmirching their name.

01:42:07.000 And I was like, I'm not saying this is a literal plan.

01:42:09.000 I'm saying, I tell you what, if you take one of these guys, put them in a diaper and give them a spanking, they, like, everyone else will be like, dude, I'm not, I'm not, get me away from that. 0.98

01:42:18.000 Because they're terrified of all the other people they know and all the girls seeing them in this weakened, pathetic position where they're mocked and made fun of. 0.99

01:42:25.000 That is more terrifying.

01:42:26.000 I wonder how much of unusual has to do with, like, I think about mandatory prison sentences, sentencing, which was, which was, is one of these things which constantly is volleyballing back between we should have it, we shouldn't have it, we should have it, we shouldn't, should there be mandatory sentences, should judges have discretion, and part of that is, like, if you don't If something is, if there's unusual on the table, you don't even, you don't really have clear expectations of what the punishment for a crime is going to be, and you could see there being, like, you could see justice being sort of

01:43:02.000 Mm-hmm highly discretionary if there's Kind of the leeway to do things that are I must I always think unusual to be in the sense of you know predictable rather than then creative, but I I I honestly think sentencing people to jobs would be more healing to a nation than jail or prison, where these just perpetuate the criminal activities in a lot of ways.

01:43:31.000 Gangs still operate. 0.52

01:43:32.000 And in many ways, someone who's on like a minor offense who goes to jail actually just gets hardened by more, you know, by career criminals who have been in and out of jail a ton of times.

01:43:42.000 If people were sentenced to, you know, you have to go work construction and show up like Here's your sentence.

01:43:47.000 You're going to be cleaning like and we do this we do with community service stuff like this.

01:43:51.000 But I think longer term sentences of like you are sentenced to five years of working at you know, a construction firm or whatever under supervision with an ankle bracelet would be more effective than we're going to lock you in a box and spend money on your life.

01:44:04.000 Yeah, and also, I think the other point you made was super salient too, which was like, it's not just they get hardened, they get networked.

01:44:11.000 Like, prisons are gang systems.

01:44:13.000 You get plugged into your gang and now, even if you weren't in one before, that's your team now.

01:44:18.000 These kids who are looting and ransacking all over the country, these kids and young adults?

01:44:23.000 They know their worst case scenario is they're gonna scream racist, like that woman at Walmart, we saw that viral video, or they're gonna get locked up or pay a fine. 0.95

01:44:30.000 But I tell you, man, I'm just saying, you take a 16, 17 year old who thinks he's a badass and he robbed, you know, he looted some store, and then you bring him out in public and say, okay, you're gonna get a spanking, and not to injure, to humiliate.

01:44:45.000 People are going to really think twice about whether or not they want, like I'm talking about young people who are very concerned about whether they look cool or not, whether they fit in, whether they're popular.

01:44:53.000 That is a bigger deterrent.

01:44:55.000 I don't think, again, I'm not literally saying you do that.

01:44:57.000 I'm saying the idea of a public humiliation is a stronger disincentive or whatever, disincentivization than saying we're going to put you with the rest of your gang in a box where you'll continue working.

01:45:12.000 Or bring back the Coliseum, and if gang members want to fight, let them fight, and let's get rid of the rule of law, and if they want to fight, let them fight, and let people defend themselves as well, and then we have less government.

01:45:23.000 This is another big issue, too.

01:45:25.000 It used to be that dueling was allowed, and I think Oregon still has mutual combat on the books, that if two people agree to fight, Right, it's called mutual combat.

01:45:32.000 So, we used to have dueling.

01:45:33.000 And then you look at, like, Hamilton and Burr, like the famous duel, and I was reading about how dueling ceased, and it was because younger generations were more progressive and said, this is barbaric, why are people dueling each other?

01:45:44.000 We should make it illegal.

01:45:45.000 And now what you have is rampant gun violence on the streets of Chicago.

01:45:48.000 But if dueling were still legal, and, you know, they want to do safe injection sites, where they're like, we should allow people to do drugs, but in a safe place.

01:45:56.000 Okay.

01:45:56.000 The people in Chicago, We're trying to shoot each other.

01:46:00.000 Why don't we give them a safe place to duel? 0.94

01:46:02.000 Yeah.

01:46:02.000 Look, if the point is that heroin can kill you, and so we want to make sure they have a safe place to do it, but they're killing themselves, I'm not talking about ODing.

01:46:10.000 I'm saying you are literally dying as you're doing this drug.

01:46:13.000 It will kill you in the long term.

01:46:15.000 Then why would they not be advocating for dueling coliseums like Luke was bringing up?

01:46:19.000 Okay, this guy's honor was besmirched.

01:46:21.000 They used to duel back in the day.

01:46:23.000 What, you want to bring back safe dueling zones so that people aren't... Hey, if the problem is little kids are getting shot in the crossfire, a pregnant woman just got shot in a crossfire, then why don't you just bring back coliseums? 0.87

01:46:33.000 Safe dueling sites so that we can protect the public from people who are engaging in duels.

01:46:36.000 Exactly.

01:46:37.000 You have a beef?

01:46:38.000 You have an issue with someone?

01:46:39.000 Figure it out!

01:46:41.000 In a private area where there's no government, total lawlessness, Seamus, I'm personally inviting you to a duel of ideas.

01:46:49.000 It's a duel-free zone.

01:46:50.000 A battle of ideas.

01:46:51.000 No, no.

01:46:52.000 You get a duel with pillows.

01:46:54.000 With my pillows.

01:46:56.000 It'd be funny if it turns out like my pillow is somehow just like very, very, you know, ten times more dangerous than your average pillow in a pillow fight.

01:47:04.000 And then someone just starts destroying everybody in a pillow fight, sending people flying.

01:47:08.000 This guy would put bricks in it.

01:47:09.000 I don't trust him.

01:47:10.000 Okay, let's read some more.

01:47:12.000 That was a good super chat, by the way.

01:47:13.000 I would.

01:47:13.000 Let's read some more.

01:47:13.000 All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:47:16.000 says, seeing big names cry about Gaetz, saying he's not a real conservative, makes me want to let them conserve themselves to being a speed bump.

01:47:24.000 Republicans only stand a chance because of us.

01:47:27.000 Life's tough.

01:47:27.000 Get a helmet.

01:47:29.000 Yeah, McCarthy- it- look, it's- I'll say it again.

01:47:32.000 McCarthy cutting a deal with Democrats means there is a Democrat majority in the House.

01:47:37.000 That's it.

01:47:38.000 2022 is meaningless.

01:47:40.000 If there is a slim majority, and the Republicans are like, with our slim majority, we want to exercise it in this way, and McCarthy's like, nah, we're just gonna give Democrats what they want, then what was the point of voting for Republicans?

01:47:50.000 You gotta vote in more MAGA-type, anti-establishment types, etc, etc.

01:47:55.000 We will grab some more Super Chats.

01:47:57.000 Where are we at?

01:47:58.000 What do we have here?

01:47:59.000 PonyUp says, Myron and Fresh from Fresh and Fit said they would be there too.

01:48:03.000 Can you confirm that, Tim?

01:48:04.000 Yes!

01:48:06.000 Among the many people who will be special guests at the event on Friday, in some capacity,

01:48:11.000 I don't know exactly how, Fresh and Fit, they're here in Miami, and they will be attending,

01:48:16.000 and in some way, we'll be working with them for the event.

01:48:20.000 We have a lot of people who are going to be there.

01:48:22.000 You know, originally, James O'Keefe was going to be there, and then when Don Jr. had to

01:48:25.000 pull out, we were like, James, you want to just jump on the roster and be one of the,

01:48:29.000 you know, principal guests?

01:48:30.000 And he said yes.

01:48:31.000 But there's a lot of people who are going to be there, notably, like Ashley St. Clair

01:48:34.000 will be there, and um, Filibonte will be there, obviously.

01:48:38.000 He's on the show.

01:48:39.000 So he'll be there in some capacity.

01:48:41.000 There's a handful of other people.

01:48:42.000 We reached out to Viva.

01:48:44.000 He's going to be there.

01:48:45.000 He is going to be there.

01:48:46.000 He confirmed.

01:48:46.000 Yeah, so it's basically just, you know, a ton of people are going to be there in some way, and it's going to be fun interacting.

01:48:53.000 So, you know, y'all who are in the Miami area or nearby, we'll see you there.

01:48:56.000 It's going to be fun.

01:48:57.000 And then if you're an elite member at TimCast.com, that means you are signed up at the $100 per month level.

01:49:02.000 There's an elite member meetup where we're having dinner.

01:49:05.000 We're going to be having a dinner in a secret location and hanging out, and it's going to be really, really fun.

01:49:09.000 Yep, Seamus is going to be the butler, and he's going to be providing everyone for things, so it's going to be a good deal.

01:49:15.000 It's going to be awesome.

01:49:16.000 Thanks, Seamus.

01:49:16.000 Hey, that is actual false advertisement!

01:49:19.000 You're lying to Tim's audience.

01:49:20.000 You're lying to Tim's audience.

01:49:22.000 It's okay, it's fine.

01:49:23.000 This is the kind of credible reporting you can expect.

01:49:25.000 Listen, you had to figure out a way to get here.

01:49:27.000 This is how you did it.

01:49:28.000 It's totally okay.

01:49:29.000 It's totally fine.

01:49:30.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:49:32.000 Noah R. says, Don't mind me paying the Potato Man tax.

01:49:35.000 Biden's presidency is temporary, but ShimCast is forever. 0.88

01:49:38.000 That's correct.

01:49:38.000 Good to have you back, Seamus.

01:49:39.000 Thank you.

01:49:40.000 I appreciate that.

01:49:41.000 I don't know.

01:49:41.000 I can't say the same.

01:49:43.000 I had a very serious medical treatment I had to leave for.

01:49:46.000 That's right.

01:49:46.000 And when I came back, Seamus was gone.

01:49:48.000 That's right.

01:49:49.000 He just left.

01:49:49.000 I was scheduled to leave that week.

01:49:51.000 With the spoons or without the spoons?

01:49:52.000 I was scheduled.

01:49:52.000 I was like, look, I'm leaving the last week of July.

01:49:54.000 And then Tim was like, look, this last week... You mean the Irish exit is what happened.

01:49:59.000 That's right.

01:50:00.000 You know, somebody... That means he stole something, Tim.

01:50:03.000 Did you check everything?

01:50:04.000 My honey is gone.

01:50:05.000 What?

01:50:06.000 What?

01:50:06.000 That's crazy.

01:50:08.000 Like the accusations are stacking up.

01:50:09.000 I didn't say you did anything.

01:50:11.000 I didn't say you did anything.

01:50:11.000 You just happened to casually mention it right when you were saying that I left.

01:50:18.000 That's so strange.

01:50:19.000 What happened to the honey?

01:50:20.000 These are Stalinist tactics.

01:50:22.000 Well, you know, I don't think it was Seamus because I'm not sure that the Irish are associated with honey, so...

01:50:27.000 So this is how we're determining whether a crime was committed on the basis of ethnic stereotypes?

01:50:31.000 I don't think that's fair.

01:50:31.000 I mean, it's your standard.

01:50:33.000 You won it.

01:50:35.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats and see where we're at.

01:50:38.000 Talon86 says, Potato Man and t-shirt seller 2024.

01:50:40.000 Are we going to ride together?

01:50:42.000 I don't think so.

01:50:43.000 You don't think so?

01:50:43.000 I don't want to walk with you.

01:50:45.000 Yeah, I would never appoint you as my VP.

01:50:48.000 Luke doesn't want to admit it, but he was like, come on, can you get Sheamus to come out?

01:50:50.000 And we were like, no, Sheamus doesn't want to come out.

01:50:52.000 And he was like, dude, come on, at least for one day.

01:50:53.000 And I was like, all right, fine.

01:50:55.000 And we hit up Sheamus.

01:50:56.000 Sheamus was like, I don't know, I'm really busy.

01:50:57.000 I was like, dude, Luke is begging you to come down.

01:50:59.000 And I was like, if you promise he won't be there.

01:51:02.000 And here we are.

01:51:03.000 Here we are.

01:51:03.000 We had to lie to get you here.

01:51:05.000 It's wrong.

01:51:06.000 Where we at?

01:51:07.000 Isaac Gorski says, if the FBI now says that MAGA are extremists, that's it.

01:51:11.000 I've had enough.

01:51:12.000 I'm a parent of three.

01:51:13.000 One more on the way.

01:51:15.000 Husband, Catholic conservative.

01:51:16.000 I am everything the establishment fears.

01:51:18.000 I am MAGA and I nominate myself as Speaker of the House.

01:51:22.000 Well, there you go.

01:51:22.000 There you are.

01:51:23.000 Congratulations on being Speaker of the House.

01:51:26.000 SSS, capitalism is not working, not even perfect.

01:51:29.000 I don't understand in and outs of it, but I don't care.

01:51:31.000 It must be destroyed.

01:51:33.000 Tim, you aren't too far from BLM. 0.86

01:51:35.000 I love the, I don't understand it, but it must be destroyed.

01:51:38.000 That represents Antifa so well.

01:51:41.000 And BLM so well.

01:51:42.000 Cause it's like, you know...

01:51:45.000 I don't think it's fair to say that anybody here on this show or most people completely understand it, but we understand it quite a bit.

01:51:52.000 So if you say you don't understand the ins and outs, we here do understand the ins and outs.

01:51:56.000 We're just not perfect and we don't understand quite literally every aspect.

01:51:59.000 That would be impossible.

01:52:00.000 I mean, I do, but... You don't, but the point is this.

01:52:03.000 Capitalism does work.

01:52:04.000 The problem is we don't have that.

01:52:06.000 We have the erosion through corruption and you end up with Heavy taxation.

01:52:11.000 You end up with the seizure of control of property rights and you end up with the centralization of power because the government gives preferential treatment to certain companies which then amass massive power and then revolving door between government and they create some kind of corporatocracy oligopoly.

01:52:27.000 That's not capitalism.

01:52:29.000 Capitalism is simple.

01:52:30.000 Dude invents lightbulb.

01:52:31.000 Dude gets rich from lightbulb.

01:52:32.000 Everybody has light in their houses.

01:52:34.000 One of the problems of capitalism, because capitalism is not perfect, is, say, planned obsolescence.

01:52:38.000 You can make a lightbulb that lasts forever.

01:52:40.000 Instead, they make a lightbulb that burns out, so you gotta buy more of them.

01:52:43.000 That's not a good thing, okay?

01:52:44.000 But that doesn't mean that it's not working.

01:52:48.000 Or that it must be destroyed.

01:52:49.000 Quite the opposite.

01:52:50.000 Capitalism is simply defined as the private transfer of goods and labor, whereas communism is determined as the public or government ownership of goods and labor, which basically means you have no rights, you will own nothing, and you're not going to be happy, and if you tell anyone you're not happy, they're going to throw you in a gulag.

01:53:08.000 But in a real free market, there would be someone who would say, yeah, I'm going to have a light bulb that's going to last forever, and I'm going to sell it to you because there's an opportunity there.

01:53:17.000 So we don't have that.

01:53:19.000 We have government mandated light bulbs that are really bad for you.

01:53:23.000 Well, so the argument is...

01:53:25.000 What happens is nobody wants to make the everlasting light bulb because then they'll go out of business really quickly.

01:53:32.000 They all just want to compete and control the space and do price fixing.

01:53:35.000 That's a monopoly, right?

01:53:37.000 Yes.

01:53:37.000 Yeah, but- I don't say a monopoly. You can call it like, um...

01:53:42.000 Ten companies exist, and all the executives meet up and say, Listen, if we keep competing with each other, light bulbs

01:53:48.000 are gonna be a penny, and we're gonna be broke.

01:53:50.000 Why don't we all agree that we will never sell a light bulb for less than a dollar?

01:53:53.000 And they go, deal.

01:53:55.000 Price fixing.

01:53:57.000 So how do you solve for these things?

01:53:58.000 Because these things have happened, they do happen, and they happen in free markets.

01:54:01.000 Yes, they happen especially with what happened with David Rockefeller and a lot of his enterprises when he, of course, was manipulating the system.

01:54:09.000 But it's usually done through force and coercion under the government rules and regulations, and I would still rather have the risk of an entrepreneur coming out and saying, hey, I actually have the forever light bulb that you could buy at this particular price.

01:54:21.000 There still is a better chance for that than the current system that we have now under all these rules and all these regulations.

01:54:26.000 No system is perfect, but the best system, I think, is a free system, and I think the snake oil argument is, of course, just one of many arguments of the imperfectness of everything, but the biggest system that does the most damage, harms the most people, is usually a more centralized government system.

01:54:44.000 And so the question is, to have a free market, would you be okay with snake oil salesmen and products of such?

01:54:52.000 I think we already have that.

01:54:53.000 It's called the Trump scene.

01:54:55.000 The what?

01:54:56.000 The Trump scene.

01:54:57.000 Okay, you have people who go into malls and they sell balance bracelets which don't actually do anything.

01:55:02.000 We already have that, yeah.

01:55:04.000 And the FTC issues a fine, and then the company pays the fine but made more money in profits.

01:55:10.000 From the fake product anyway, so it's like they'll sell $20 million in garbage, pay a $5 million fine, company dissolves, they reform a new company, and they sell this garbage again.

01:55:19.000 That stuff already exists, right?

01:55:21.000 I'm not saying that government is solving for the problem.

01:55:23.000 I'm saying that in a true free market, this will just persist.

01:55:27.000 People will say, like, buy my magic rock.

01:55:29.000 I just want to mention, I had a guy try to sell me one of those years ago, years ago.

01:55:34.000 I was at a mall or a flea market or something.

01:55:36.000 He's like, you got to check out this balance bracelet.

01:55:38.000 I was like, I'm not really interested.

01:55:39.000 He's like, no, no, no, you got to look at this.

01:55:40.000 Like put your hand out.

01:55:41.000 So I put my hand out and he like pushed down on it to try to like knock me off my balance and he did a little bit.

01:55:46.000 I was like, okay.

01:55:47.000 And he's like, no, no, see what happens when you put this on.

01:55:49.000 Then he put on me, he like put it on my wrist and then he pushed down on my hand substantially less hard.

01:55:55.000 He's like, look, you didn't tip over, you had better balance.

01:55:58.000 I was like, dude, get away from me.

01:55:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:56:00.000 The responsibility. 0.92

01:56:01.000 It's a ridiculous sales pitch. 0.84

01:56:02.000 I've never earned my life. 0.95

01:56:03.000 The responsibility is on the consumer.

01:56:05.000 The consumer is responsible, not the government.

01:56:07.000 So the way the trick works is it's called the center of gravity illusion.

01:56:11.000 That's just a basic name for it.

01:56:13.000 You have someone stand on one foot.

01:56:15.000 And what you do is have them hold out their hands while standing on one foot.

01:56:18.000 And you grab one of their arms.

01:56:21.000 and you want to push down slightly away from their body.

01:56:25.000 They'll fall over.

01:56:27.000 You then put the magic object in their hand, have them stand on one foot, put their arms out, but this time, you push down and slightly into, in the direction of their body, by only a tiny bit.

01:56:37.000 You're pushing into the center of gravity so they don't fall over, and then you go, look at this!

01:56:43.000 And you can actually push down pretty hard on someone if you're pushing into their center of gravity and the average person falls for the trick.

01:56:49.000 It's an illusion like, whoa, what happened?

01:56:51.000 Not realizing you adjusted the angle of force, so now they're not tripping.

01:56:55.000 They use that trick, and the thing is, all these sales guys are taught, here's how you trick people into buying garbage rubber bands.

01:57:03.000 Then the FTC comes in and says, you gotta pay, you know, five, ten million dollars, fine, they go, we made thirty million dollars already. 0.91

01:57:09.000 And then they relaunch with some other garbage.

01:57:10.000 Wait, wait until you find out what Big Pharma is doing. 0.98

01:57:13.000 Oh, I know, I know, I know.

01:57:15.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:57:17.000 Let's see.

01:57:18.000 Ashley St.

01:57:18.000 Clair says, make sure the IRL Miami venue hides the spoons before Seamus arrives.

01:57:25.000 Very good point.

01:57:25.000 Thank you, Ashley.

01:57:26.000 I agree.

01:57:27.000 It's sickening.

01:57:27.000 Firstly, Ashley, I'm already here.

01:57:29.000 All right?

01:57:30.000 I've been here.

01:57:31.000 Where are you?

01:57:32.000 Nowhere around.

01:57:33.000 Tim's like, I'll bring her around for the Friday event for whatever reason.

01:57:36.000 Kind of participation trophy.

01:57:37.000 I think he felt a little bit bad for you.

01:57:39.000 Participation trophy?

01:57:39.000 I actually didn't invite anybody.

01:57:41.000 They just showed up?

01:57:42.000 I was being organized by other people.

01:57:43.000 That sounds about right.

01:57:43.000 You sound like you want to date her, Seamus.

01:57:45.000 I'm just very angry.

01:57:46.000 Is this the AOC defense?

01:57:47.000 I want to know what you did with the spoons.

01:57:50.000 If you criticize somebody, then you certainly want to date them.

01:57:52.000 You don't want to know what he did with the spoons.

01:57:54.000 Lou clearly wants to date Big Pharma based on his critique of them.

01:57:58.000 Alright, CTI says, Hey y'all, please keep my wife in your prayers as she has to put her childhood cat down on Friday.

01:58:04.000 Sorry to hear, man.

01:58:06.000 We'll keep her in our prayers.

01:58:09.000 David Scott says, the FBI has signaled either the end of the FBI or the end of the US.

01:58:13.000 The ATF just warned Texas FFLs about cartels buying 50-cals.

01:58:18.000 No, they're tracking you.

01:58:19.000 Wow.

01:58:20.000 50-cals, huh?

01:58:24.000 Well, you know, what government agency was tracking the government purchases?

01:58:31.000 The ATF?

01:58:32.000 Oh yeah, that's the same agency that actually sent 50 BMGs to Mexico!

01:58:37.000 You want to date that agency?

01:58:38.000 That's so weird.

01:58:39.000 Are you attracted to them?

01:58:40.000 Are you trying to get together?

01:58:41.000 I think they're going to have to report on themselves, especially after Operation Fast and Furious and all the horrible things that they did there.

01:58:47.000 Fast and Furious?

01:58:47.000 Do you want to date Obama or something?

01:58:50.000 Yes.

01:58:50.000 Okay, uh... Wedopie says, Tim, ever heard of the game Remember Me?

01:58:55.000 It's about brain chips and memory alterations along with how people even get all their bad memories altered or removed.

01:59:02.000 I would definitely recommend giving it a play.

01:59:03.000 I think I've heard of that game.

01:59:05.000 That's gonna be the crazy thing with Neuralink, and there's been a lot of sci-fi about it, but when people choose to remove memories, a lot of people look at the Matrix and it's like, you can learn Kung Fu in a minute.

01:59:16.000 Yeah, and a lot of people are gonna be like, man, I did not like today, just delete.

01:59:20.000 I wanna unlearn Kung Fu.

01:59:22.000 It was awful.

01:59:22.000 Horrible experiences.

01:59:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:59:25.000 That's because you got your butt kicked. 0.98

01:59:29.000 But also, you can't download kung fu. 1.00

01:59:31.000 That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 0.99

01:59:34.000 It requires muscle memory and your muscles to be developed. 1.00

01:59:37.000 You can't just know in your brain how to do it.

01:59:39.000 You wouldn't steal a kung fu. 0.98

01:59:41.000 Don't illegally download.

01:59:44.000 You wouldn't steal quantum physics.

01:59:45.000 Everyone wants to figure out ways to, you know, do things through taking a shortcut.

01:59:51.000 You know, there's this argument, yeah, you'll be able to just download all sorts of information about the world.

01:59:55.000 I'm very skeptical.

01:59:56.000 I'm very skeptical that that's ever going to be possible, that the human brain's ever going to work that way.

01:59:59.000 What would make more sense is taking a kung fu pill over the period of a year. 0.65

02:00:04.000 No, for real, though.

02:00:04.000 Based in kung fu pill, bro.

02:00:06.000 Yeah, like, with, uh, with nanotech stuff, it would make more sense that you would, instead of exercising every day, you'd take a kung fu pill, and then just go play video games, and it, that makes more sense, because it could affect your muscles and everything, and the nanobots could be, you know, shifting and rearranging things.

02:00:22.000 You'd be all sore and tired, like, man, it was, it was... Crazy workout, man!

02:00:25.000 Yeah, four hours of kung fu and a pill?

02:00:27.000 Crazy stuff.

02:00:28.000 All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show if you really do like it, and head over to TimCast.com because the Uncensored show is coming up in a couple minutes.

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02:00:43.000 Mike, do you want to shout anything out?

02:00:44.000 Yeah, follow the work that my foundation does at Foundation for Freedom Online, and I'm on Twitter at MikeBenzCyber.

02:00:50.000 Mike, that was great.

02:00:51.000 Thank you so much for coming on.

02:00:53.000 As you guys know, I'm really big into health.

02:00:55.000 That's why I launched WeAreChange.shop.

02:00:57.000 We got some really great fish oils you guys should check out there.

02:01:00.000 But more importantly, we're also doing health-conscious meetups.

02:01:03.000 We're doing one this Sunday, 4 p.m.

02:01:06.000 here in Southern Florida.

02:01:07.000 To get there, go to LukeUnfiltered.com, LukeUnfiltered.com, and in related health news.

02:01:14.000 Seamus, how's the boozing and smoking going?

02:01:16.000 Charming, very charming, Luke.

02:01:18.000 My name's Seamus Coghlan.

02:01:19.000 I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.

02:01:21.000 If you guys want to check that out, we released a video yesterday about how difficult it is to tell the difference between a door handle and a fire alarm.

02:01:30.000 It's tough.

02:01:31.000 It is really hard.

02:01:32.000 So watch that video.

02:01:33.000 Tomorrow, we're actually releasing one of my favorite videos we've worked on.

02:01:37.000 I think it's going to be really funny.

02:01:38.000 So I'm going to ask all of you to go over to Freedom Tunes on YouTube and subscribe and watch out for our upload tomorrow.

02:01:44.000 You're going to love it.

02:01:45.000 Do you hear the way Luke endorsed it?

02:01:46.000 You hear that endorsement?

02:01:47.000 That's great.

02:01:48.000 Surge?

02:01:49.000 Fluke doesn't like it.

02:01:50.000 It's good.

02:01:51.000 Yeah, I'm just hanging out over here.

02:01:52.000 I'm ready for this after show.

02:01:54.000 Surge.com on the internet.

02:01:56.000 Twix or whatever.

02:01:56.000 Yeah, let's get to it.

02:01:57.000 All right, everybody.

02:01:58.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com in a couple minutes.

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