Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump Indictment SUSPENDED, Soros DA UNABLE To Convince Jury To Indict w-Matt Kibbe

00:00:00.000 So the two big stories today happened earlier.

00:00:25.000 The Trump indictment is suspended.

00:00:28.000 I don't know exactly why, but the grand jury was sent home again, which means there will not be any movement this week.

00:00:36.000 I don't know if that means there won't be an indictment, but it's starting to look like Donald Trump won.

00:00:40.000 And the reason this is significant, as much as I'm kind of over-talking about it to a certain degree, this is the follow-up.

00:00:45.000 We've been talking about it all week.

00:00:47.000 We were worried that Donald Trump would be arrested, the first president, former president in history, to be arrested on some kind of criminal charge.

00:00:53.000 But it looks like Donald Trump calling it out, creating a press storm, likely put pressure that resulted in this going away.

00:01:01.000 I think that if Donald Trump didn't say anything, then it likely would have happened because there was no pushback.

00:01:06.000 Now a bunch of these more, I don't know, middle-of-the-road conservative types are calling Trump a grifter over it.

00:01:12.000 He raised 1.5 million dollars, probably more.

00:01:14.000 I think Trump did the right thing.

00:01:16.000 The other big news is that Carrie Lake has won her appeal.

00:01:19.000 Now, the corporate press, once again, is saying Carrie Lake loses most of her appeal, and it's like, what does it mean, losing most?

00:01:25.000 Oh, you mean she filed an appeal with a bunch of arguments, and they actually accepted some of it?

00:01:31.000 Yeah, that's big.

00:01:32.000 Signature verification is being kicked back to the lower court for re-review.

00:01:35.000 It's moving forward.

00:01:38.000 I don't know how far it'll get.

00:01:40.000 Maybe the lower court will just say screw off, because they're not going to want to listen to it.

00:01:44.000 But potentially, if this goes back to the lawsuit, if this goes back to actually addressing signature review issues, then something might happen.

00:01:53.000 Perhaps they actually have to go and review the signatures and then start disqualifying them.

00:01:57.000 I don't know for sure, but we'll talk about it.

00:01:59.000 And then, we got a whole bunch of crazy news about layoffs.

00:02:02.000 Apparently, Indeed is laying off people.

00:02:04.000 We've got Walmart shutting down stores and laying off people.

00:02:07.000 Stores are no longer carrying eggs.

00:02:09.000 Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that's basically what we do here, and it looks like the economy's starting to get pretty bad.

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00:04:33.000 Thanks for coming.

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00:04:59.000 Go deep.

00:05:00.000 Matt Kibbe, president of Free the People.

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00:05:07.000 We want to turn on a new generation to the values of liberty and cooperation.

00:05:12.000 We want to get into that cultural space where I think most people live.

00:05:16.000 And I'm also the host of Kibbe on Liberty on Blaze TV.

00:05:18.000 What was the recent documentary you guys did?

00:05:21.000 The most recent one, well the one I was talking about, was one about Thomas Massey called Off the Grid with Thomas Massey.

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00:05:36.000 He built his own home by hand from materials that he found on his farm in Kentucky.

00:05:43.000 He's 100% green guy because he likes the independence of not being dependent on the government who can flip off the switch.

00:05:52.000 And that was recently featured in the New York Times as an example of this new generation of conservative libertarian Republicans who are reaching people outside of our tribe.

00:06:05.000 There's a lot of disaffected liberals who love the environment.

00:06:10.000 They want to live that green life.

00:06:12.000 And Massey has a more compelling story than that one-size-fits-all authoritarian, we're going to force you all to live and eat fake meat. 1.00

00:06:22.000 Dig it.

00:06:22.000 Word.

00:06:23.000 Let's carry on with the introductions.

00:06:24.000 Santa Clara's hanging out.

00:06:25.000 Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

00:06:26.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:06:28.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

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00:06:32.000 Let's do it.

00:06:33.000 Let's jump into that first story.

00:06:34.000 We got this one from the Daily Mail.

00:06:36.000 Quote, they tell us to be peaceful.

00:06:38.000 Trump issues another threat and tells Soros-backed animal Alvin Bragg to drop the Sturmey Daniels case as grand jury is canceled for the rest of the week and questions grow about looming indictment.

00:06:49.000 Manhattan grand jury members were told not to show up to court on Thursday.

00:06:53.000 Sources tell DailyMail.com prosecutors are having trouble convincing the jury to indict Trump over hush money payments to Stormy Daniels.

00:06:59.000 Trump is expected to fly to Waco, Texas on Saturday for a campaign event.

00:07:04.000 Trump's also raised $1.5 million off of it.

00:07:06.000 I think he's done absolutely the right thing.

00:07:08.000 I think he's doing the right thing by continually calling this out, and I think only because he called it out are they backing down.

00:07:15.000 So they don't convene the grand juries on Friday.

00:07:17.000 That's what I've seen reported.

00:07:18.000 Which means, not Monday, not Tuesday, not Wednesday, not Thursday.

00:07:22.000 Every single step of the way, it's been kicked back, and now, we don't even know if it's gonna happen.

00:07:26.000 So.

00:07:27.000 So they get a chance, they wanna convince the jury, but if they can't convince the jury, I think that means that they lose the case.

00:07:33.000 I don't think that means you get to keep trying to convince them every day, but, is there some legal precedent where you're allowed to be like, you don't believe me yet?

00:07:39.000 Alright, we'll see you again tomorrow.

00:07:40.000 Until they break the jury and make the jury go the way they want them to.

00:07:43.000 Grand juries are not prosecutions.

00:07:45.000 All they're doing is trying to get an indictment, so it's a preponderance of evidence.

00:07:49.000 Hey, here's a picture of a guy near a crime scene.

00:07:52.000 He may have done it.

00:07:53.000 We've got a bunch of evidence.

00:07:54.000 We want to bring it to trial.

00:07:55.000 Okay, indict him.

00:07:56.000 And the jury's like, nah, that's not enough evidence.

00:07:57.000 They're like, okay, well, we'll come back tomorrow and see if you change your mind.

00:08:01.000 And if you don't change your mind, we're gonna bring you back every day until you maybe change your mind.

00:08:05.000 Like, what is this?

00:08:06.000 What kind of duress is that to put a jury under?

00:08:08.000 If they don't want to do it, they don't want to do it.

00:08:11.000 Yes.

00:08:12.000 I think there's exculpatory evidence that outright proves Donald Trump didn't do it, and they're desperately trying to do this anyway.

00:08:19.000 But I think that Donald Trump calling this out and saying they're trying to arrest me is what caused this to basically start breaking apart.

00:08:25.000 High level of media scrutiny, political scrutiny, Alvin Bragg is probably sweating it.

00:08:30.000 He issued a letter, sent it to Congress.

00:08:33.000 I have a feeling that coming next week it probably won't happen.

00:08:35.000 Not to mention, I'm willing to bet, when Democrats saw the news that Trump raised $1.5 million in three days, they were like, dude, you gotta stop doing this.

00:08:42.000 Like, I know it's good for your career and all, but you're filling his war chest.

00:08:48.000 I think I think this guy learned what every Republican primary opponent of Trump learned the hard way in 2016, which is this.

00:08:55.000 This is what Trump is good at.

00:08:57.000 This is feeding the narrative like Trump is the headline all week long. 0.99

00:09:03.000 And he's both playing the victim and kicking this guy's ass at the same time and raising a bunch of money. 0.99

00:09:10.000 And I think the call came down from somebody and said, you're helping this guy and you're getting killed. 0.99

00:09:17.000 You better stop.

00:09:19.000 So it's politics.

00:09:20.000 It's not a legal thing at all.

00:09:22.000 It's about the narrative that they wanted to create.

00:09:25.000 And this is what Trump is a master at.

00:09:27.000 That's why I think he came out and said ahead of time.

00:09:30.000 It was such a skillful move to come out and say, they're going to arrest me next week.

00:09:33.000 Because if he doesn't get arrested, his base is like, cool, that sounds good.

00:09:36.000 If he gets arrested, they're in rage.

00:09:38.000 They can't believe that this is happening to him.

00:09:40.000 And the element of surprise that we've talked about a little bit, the perp walk photo that I think a lot of left-leaning journalists would have really liked to have published, it's gone, right?

00:09:49.000 It doesn't have the same meaning.

00:09:50.000 And so really, Trump has come out as the winner in this scenario.

00:09:56.000 To the detriment of the Democrats.

00:09:57.000 Like, they completely miscalculated how he would handle the situation.

00:10:01.000 I wonder if it's that Alvin Bragg is this low-level nobody.

00:10:05.000 You know, it's like, imagine you're the CEO of this big company, and you're about to do a big merger deal or some big buyout, and then the janitor throws a water balloon at the other company's president.

00:10:14.000 You're like, what are you doing?!

00:10:15.000 You're gonna—oh, what is this?! !

00:10:16.000 Like, so Bragg is this nobody, and he's like, I wanna be famous, I'm gonna indict Trump, and the Democratic leadership is like, what is this guy doing?

00:10:25.000 He is making Trump's base fervent, he is riling them all up, filling his war chest, and then I wonder if he got a phone call and they were like, you need to stop.

00:10:36.000 See, I wonder if- Absolutely happened that way.

00:10:37.000 Yeah.

00:10:38.000 Well, I also wonder if the New York AG, Letitia James, initially was like, we've got to move forward.

00:10:43.000 We've been investigating Trump for like three years at this point.

00:10:47.000 You know, someone has to bring charges against him.

00:10:49.000 Alvin, you do it.

00:10:50.000 And then it all backfired.

00:10:51.000 She's like, stop immediately.

00:10:52.000 You're making us all look bad.

00:10:53.000 Like he's kind of being thrown to the wolves too.

00:10:55.000 I would hate to be him right now.

00:10:57.000 They would do that?

00:10:58.000 No, probably not.

00:10:59.000 This is just my crazy conspiracy theory side.

00:11:01.000 It's about justice.

00:11:02.000 Also, yesterday we talked about it, and Michael Cohen is apparently the one that paid Stormy Daniels $125,000.

00:11:08.000 From the evidence I saw yesterday, there was no evidence of Trump paying her anything.

00:11:12.000 So maybe there is evidence of that that I haven't seen?

00:11:14.000 No, there's... My understanding is there's no evidence.

00:11:17.000 And what they're doing is that Cohen paid the money, and then in the legal bills that Trump paid is a comparable amount of money, and they're like, aha, that proves it.

00:11:26.000 And it's like, no, it just proves that Cohen lied. 0.98

00:11:29.000 And he went to jail for it because he's a liar. 0.93

00:11:30.000 That's what he does. 0.95

00:11:31.000 There were some great AI perp walk photos of Trump, which make him look badass.

00:11:36.000 I'll be honest.

00:11:38.000 He's like screaming and fighting with the cops.

00:11:40.000 Have you seen those?

00:11:41.000 Yeah, I did.

00:11:42.000 But did you see the AI photos of Obama, Fauci, Biden being arrested?

00:11:46.000 I saw something about Hillary Clinton.

00:11:49.000 I got a weird feeling inside when I saw those photos.

00:11:52.000 It was like a warm fuzzy feeling.

00:11:54.000 Uh oh, that's the AI being like, plug in.

00:11:56.000 The world that you want is just a click away.

00:11:58.000 No, the warm fuzzy feeling was like, you know, could there exist a world where

00:12:02.000 it's like there's a picture of Obama, and the cops are grabbing him and plunging him in his life,

00:12:07.000 fighting, and I'm like, wow.

00:12:09.000 It makes me so sad.

00:12:10.000 And at the same time, like, seeing that photo, knowing it's not real,

00:12:15.000 It's kind of a weird, warm, fuzzy sadness.

00:12:17.000 Because, you know, like, Obama should be in jail.

00:12:20.000 He should be arrested and criminally charged.

00:12:22.000 And it's never going to happen.

00:12:23.000 I don't think he should.

00:12:25.000 What?

00:12:26.000 He killed a kid, dude! 0.65

00:12:27.000 But he was president when he did it. 0.98

00:12:29.000 I don't care.

00:12:31.000 What?

00:12:31.000 Technically, yeah.

00:12:32.000 Would you feel that way if you hit someone while drunk driving while the president? 0.94

00:12:37.000 What if Obama walked out into Fifth Avenue and just shot a kid in the face? 0.92

00:12:39.000 And then it would be like, he can do it, because he's the president. 0.92

00:12:43.000 No, no, murder would be a different thing, but ordering a drone strike that collaterally kills an American kid?

00:12:48.000 Collaterally?

00:12:48.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:12:49.000 He targeted him?

00:12:50.000 He targeted the kid?

00:12:52.000 Actually, no, you're right. 0.58

00:12:53.000 I think he targeted a war criminal's son because he wanted to kill his family member.

00:12:56.000 No, no, no, full stop.

00:12:58.000 Where was the country?

00:12:59.000 Which country was the drone strike in?

00:13:01.000 I think it was in the Middle East.

00:13:05.000 Was it Yemen?

00:13:06.000 Yemen.

00:13:07.000 Have we ever been at war with Yemen?

00:13:08.000 Well, the Saudis are at war with Yemen.

00:13:10.000 Have we ever been at war with Yemen?

00:13:13.000 Have we, the United States, declared war on Yemen?

00:13:15.000 Not that I know of, no.

00:13:16.000 Okay, and what was the target in Yemen?

00:13:19.000 I don't know, a restaurant.

00:13:20.000 A civilian restaurant.

00:13:22.000 So there is no circumstance where Obama is innocent in this.

00:13:26.000 I don't, I mean, when you're the president and you're in control of the military and you have a war enemy and you want to kill his family members.

00:13:31.000 We are not at war with Yemen, Yemeni civilians.

00:13:35.000 I agree, we haven't been at war since World War II.

00:13:37.000 Yes, but we're not, like, you can make the argument that, well, you know, in Iraq and Syria there's a war going on, there's an AUMF, the Congress Authorized Use of Military Force.

00:13:46.000 Obama was like, What's this country we're going to be blowing up?

00:13:49.000 It's Yemen, sir.

00:13:50.000 Are we at war with them?

00:13:51.000 No.

00:13:52.000 And what's our target?

00:13:52.000 It's a civilian restaurant.

00:13:53.000 Blow them up! 0.97

00:13:54.000 Get it done. 0.96

00:13:55.000 What?

00:13:56.000 There's literally no circumstance where that is not a capital offense.

00:14:01.000 I'm sorry, that's worse.

00:14:03.000 If Barack Obama walked out into the street with a gun and shot a kid, that is not nearly as bad as ordering a drone strike on a civilian restaurant, using the might of the American military, a multi-million- how much does a Hellfire missile cost?

00:14:16.000 To blow up- 600 grand or something?

00:14:18.000 More than that? 0.57

00:14:18.000 More, more, millions, to blow up a bunch of civilians and an American citizen? 0.57

00:14:24.000 That would be like Obama getting a group of soldiers and ordering them to open fire on 0.66

00:14:29.000 a little league baseball game or something.

00:14:31.000 What about dropping napalm on villages in Vietnam?

00:14:34.000 All of that is bad, dude.

00:14:35.000 But you don't imprison the guy, the commander.

00:14:37.000 No, no, no, listen.

00:14:38.000 Everything that happened in Vietnam was complete BS, and yes, but the commander is not the president, okay? 0.75

00:14:45.000 So there is an issue of the banality of evil, and if someone is ordered to drop napalm on civilians, yeah, I'm gonna be in favor of them going to prison.

00:14:54.000 You do not get to be like, but my boss told me to do it!

00:14:56.000 And if Barack Obama is like, I'm gonna rubber stamp blown up civilians, I'm gonna be like, well, then you get to go to jail.

00:15:01.000 So if they want to come out and complain about Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels, my response is this.

00:15:05.000 Wow.

00:15:07.000 Donald Trump committed this crime, you think?

00:15:09.000 Okay, we're gonna have to arrest him.

00:15:11.000 I think you should get the maximum for this misdemeanor.

00:15:13.000 Yeah, 11 months and 30 days.

00:15:16.000 Donald Trump.

00:15:17.000 No, no, no, don't Matt, don't give me that look.

00:15:19.000 He has to go. 0.99

00:15:20.000 And then afterwards we'll send Obama to prison for life for the execution and murder of children. 0.89

00:15:25.000 But what about like the firebombing?

00:15:27.000 You're letting a lot of politicians off the hook because I come from the school of thought that all politicians are criminals and particularly all chief executives have committed war crimes against humanity.

00:15:38.000 So while we're arresting people and imprisoning them, let's grow the list.

00:15:43.000 Let's not shrink it.

00:15:44.000 Who do you want to add?

00:15:45.000 Who don't I want to add?

00:15:48.000 But we were talking about this before the show, and I mentioned this, and you were like, I'll take that compromise.

00:15:52.000 Like, I like Trump, but I will gladly accept him getting a few months on a misdemeanor charge if it means Obama gets life in prison for the things that he did.

00:16:01.000 There's no excuse, there's no, but he was in charge of the military, dude.

00:16:05.000 If I ask someone to hold my weapons for me, you know, like, I'm gonna put you in charge of the weapons in this house, use it responsibly, and then he goes, okay, and then he grabs it and starts shooting a kid with it, I'd be like, okay, you're going to jail.

00:16:17.000 Like, we're gonna stop you and lock you up.

00:16:19.000 We did not entrust you with our military arsenal so you could go and blow up civilians in a country we are not at war with.

00:16:25.000 End of story. 0.98

00:16:26.000 It was the son of a terrorist.

00:16:28.000 So it was like a war attack.

00:16:29.000 It was like a war attack.

00:16:31.000 It happened to be in Yemen, but that's where the kid was.

00:16:33.000 Like, if the kid went to Jersey, you know, we'll look out.

00:16:36.000 Oh, OK. 0.98

00:16:36.000 So you're saying that he probably should die because he's the child, a minor child of a terrorist? 0.98

00:16:41.000 It's war. 0.86

00:16:42.000 I don't like war, but I mean, that's how war functions.

00:16:44.000 I think what he's saying... No, no, no.

00:16:46.000 Like, dude, you kill the enemy's family.

00:16:48.000 I mean, that's a tactic in war.

00:16:48.000 What he's saying is that Barack Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:16:52.000 So stop it.

00:16:53.000 That's true.

00:16:54.000 Yes.

00:16:54.000 Like, what about the firebombing of Dresden in Germany?

00:16:56.000 Was that- should they have been executed?

00:16:58.000 Should Isaac- who was it?

00:16:59.000 The President Truman?

00:17:00.000 Was he- Why are you conflating active warfare with declarations and the world involvement with a country is not at war with us but Obama wanted to send a message so he executed an American citizen by blowing up a civilian restaurant?

00:17:15.000 Like, There's no comparison.

00:17:18.000 What's the war on terror?

00:17:19.000 Okay, so imagine if Barack Obama got mad at the Mexican drug cartels, so him and his buddies got a bunch of fully automatic rifles, went to the home of a bunch of Hispanic children who were friends with or had grown up with these cartel members, and started shooting a bunch of kids.

00:17:33.000 Well, sorry, that's the war on drugs. 0.92

00:17:35.000 Obama had no choice but to start shooting kids in the face. 0.77

00:17:37.000 If the American government went to war with the cartels, you better believe family members will start dying.

00:17:43.000 In the United States, you are making the argument that we should not criminally prosecute Obama because the extrajudicial assassination of an American citizen in a country we're not at war with is justified because that was the son of someone we were targeting in a different country.

00:18:00.000 I think if you start prosecuting presidents for war crimes after every president would go to prison, and then they wouldn't be able to do their job, it's like telling a cop they can't get rough with the guy they're arresting.

00:18:11.000 At some point you've got to let the president do war.

00:18:14.000 No.

00:18:15.000 I mean, it's the commander-in-chief of the military.

00:18:17.000 You just want to let other people win the war?

00:18:21.000 So, I don't know what Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki was doing that was helping these terrorists win any kind of war other than drinking coffee and having to have been related to a guy.

00:18:32.000 No, man, they sent a message to the dad.

00:18:34.000 They wanted to kill his son. 0.94

00:18:34.000 Oh, right, right, yes, that's right. 0.94

00:18:36.000 So, yeah, it's called a war crime.

00:18:38.000 Look, in war, there is a reason why we have, I think war crimes are a silly concept, right?

00:18:45.000 Because it's like, if you're at war, you're trying to win.

00:18:46.000 But there is a difference between tactics and retribution, you know?

00:18:52.000 So like, if we were to, if the United States was like, we're gonna stop ISIS by any means necessary, and then they did a whole bunch of really messed up stuff, like napalming cities and stuff, I would be mad about that.

00:19:03.000 I'd be like, dude, we need to stop ISIS.

00:19:05.000 You know, doing this is too far, but I understand it's military.

00:19:10.000 We're talking about Obama dropping bombs on civilians who we are not at war with.

00:19:18.000 All that's going to do is make the war worse.

00:19:20.000 Like if people are at war with us, and then you send in troops to a neighboring country and start executing kids, you are going to make more war and generate more enemies.

00:19:28.000 Barack Obama should be in prison.

00:19:32.000 I'm thinking about the Fallujah, the white phosphorus attack on Fallujah in 2003, where they use it as an illuminate because they were like, yeah, we're gonna light up the sky so we can see our targets, but really it melts human skin. 0.85

00:19:42.000 So they just dropped white phosphorus all in the city of Fallujah and just melted all these civilian skin. 0.99

00:19:47.000 That was George Bush Jr.

00:19:49.000 Oh yeah, George Bush can go to prison for all of that.

00:19:51.000 He's on my list.

00:19:52.000 So yes, let's do that today.

00:19:53.000 I don't know the amount of Clinton's bombings in Bosnia.

00:19:55.000 I know that Clinton was involved in them.

00:19:57.000 Bro, the Clintons are on our list too.

00:19:59.000 And then Trump's... I think we'll go all the way with this.

00:20:02.000 You keep racking up the names, we'll keep going for President.

00:20:03.000 What about Trump giving the drone bombing campaign to his generals?

00:20:06.000 Is that not treason?

00:20:07.000 Donald Trump... 0.91

00:20:09.000 is imperfect. However, he was pulling troops out of the Middle East. He had no new wars.

00:20:14.000 He was trying to get our troops out of Syria. I look at what Trump was doing as trying to

00:20:18.000 stop these things. Granted, he inherited a lot of it from Obama, from George W. Bush,

00:20:24.000 and that's bad. However, I look to who started it and who was trying to stop it. Donald Trump

00:20:31.000 was trying to stop it.

00:20:32.000 Barack Obama was escalating it.

00:20:34.000 George W. Bush started it.

00:20:35.000 I'm not going to hold that against Trump.

00:20:36.000 Granted, there are some things I think Trump did that were bad that we need accountability for.

00:20:42.000 I don't know if it goes as far as saying, like, Donald Trump pulled our troops, was pulling troops out of the Middle East, so he increased drone strikes to maintain control of the territory.

00:20:51.000 I'm like, I don't blame him for that, I blame Obama for that.

00:20:54.000 Not that I like it or anything, but Obama was like, blowing up kids.

00:20:58.000 Now granted, there is the story of the commando raid in Yemen which resulted in the death of an eight-year-old American girl.

00:21:03.000 That, if proven to be Trump's orders, then I believe Trump deserves prison for that as well.

00:21:08.000 However, that story is still a bit of conjecture and we don't know.

00:21:12.000 When it comes to Abdur Rahman al-Awlaki, this is reported far and wide by like every major media news source, and the family, and you know, so you take it for what it is.

00:21:21.000 All that really matters is, you know what?

00:21:24.000 Indict them all.

00:21:25.000 Indict them all if they want to engage in this kind of foreign policy.

00:21:28.000 But I gotta say, man...

00:21:30.000 You know, I've had a lot of libertarians, and I don't know how you feel about this Matt, tell me that Trump is the lesser of two evils, and I disagree.

00:21:36.000 He crossed the DMZ into North Korea with no security detail.

00:21:39.000 He helped negotiate the Abraham Accords. 0.84

00:21:41.000 A lot of that was Jared Kushner.

00:21:42.000 I like that.

00:21:43.000 He was trying to get our troops out of Syria.

00:21:45.000 Very good.

00:21:46.000 He crushed ISIS.

00:21:47.000 Very, very good.

00:21:48.000 He set a deadline for getting out of Afghanistan.

00:21:49.000 I'm like, yo, this guy's doing good stuff.

00:21:51.000 I will take what I can get.

00:21:53.000 Barack Obama was escalating it.

00:21:55.000 George W. Bush was starting it.

00:21:56.000 The Clintons were engaged in all of it.

00:21:57.000 It goes all the way back.

00:21:59.000 I'll take what I can get with Trump.

00:22:00.000 I don't know what your thoughts are.

00:22:01.000 Yeah, I mean, the question, the practical question is, I think the war on terror has

00:22:04.000 been a disaster. And I'm channel my inner Ron Paul here and say, we never should have done it.

00:22:09.000 And we've made things far worse. And we've killed a lot of innocents and created lots of chaos.

00:22:14.000 But the practical question for the next president, if it's Trump or somebody else is,

00:22:19.000 how do you extract us from all of this without starting new wars? And,

00:22:23.000 and I, I'm willing to grant that that's a messy process.

00:22:26.000 And I would give Trump credit on all of those things for mostly moving in

00:22:32.000 the right direction.

00:22:32.000 Not always, but mostly moving in the right direction.

00:22:35.000 And, you know, he didn't get us out of Afghanistan, and I wish he would have succeeded at that, because the way Biden did it was a tragic shitshow, or I don't know if we're allowed to say shitshow. 0.83

00:22:45.000 Oh yeah, after 15 seconds, yeah. 0.56

00:22:48.000 I almost feel like they intentionally sabotaged Afghanistan to guarantee their ability to re-invade later if they want to. 0.99

00:22:54.000 It sure looks like that.

00:22:56.000 There's a congressman, Warren Davidson, who's been like a real hero saying, we've got to get our guys out no matter what.

00:23:04.000 And I ask him, Is this just gross incompetence the way we got out of Afghanistan or was it purposeful?

00:23:10.000 And he in a very political way said, I don't see how it can't have been purposeful so that the lesson is don't ever get out of anything ever again because it doesn't work.

00:23:23.000 And you have to wonder why they would abandon Bagram Air Force Base without notifying security forces in the country, why they cut all air support logistics.

00:23:31.000 There's no way it wasn't a detention.

00:23:32.000 Why they left all that equipment and didn't decommission it with nanothermite, like they didn't melt the machines before they just left it behind.

00:23:38.000 And they were purposely blocking private efforts.

00:23:41.000 They had transportation, they had people, and all the State Department had to say was, do it.

00:23:47.000 And they blocked it.

00:23:48.000 Blinken testified today that there are still over 175 Americans still there.

00:23:54.000 They left people behind on purpose.

00:23:56.000 There's no way that this wasn't intentional.

00:23:58.000 It gets worse, ladies and gentlemen.

00:24:00.000 We got this story from the Daily Mail.

00:24:02.000 The West has brought humankind to the brink of nuclear Armageddon with its decision to use depleted uranium ammo in Ukraine, says Russia's U.S.

00:24:10.000 envoy.

00:24:11.000 As it turns out, Britain is using depleted uranium tank busters.

00:24:17.000 And so Russia's basically saying this is the doorstep of nuclear war.

00:24:21.000 Now, I don't know.

00:24:23.000 Is depleted uranium radioactive?

00:24:25.000 I don't think it is.

00:24:26.000 Yeah, it is.

00:24:27.000 It is?

00:24:27.000 Really?

00:24:28.000 Not extremely, but enough of it in high enough concentrations.

00:24:31.000 It happened in Iraq.

00:24:32.000 They shot it.

00:24:33.000 It's in the dust, under the sand.

00:24:34.000 A lot of people were getting sick from, like, Gulf War syndrome.

00:24:37.000 They were blaming—I think it was Gulf War syndrome.

00:24:38.000 I'm not sure if they were using depleted uranium in the first Gulf War or not.

00:24:42.000 But people were coming back sick, and they think a lot of it's uranium.

00:24:45.000 The British Defense Ministry confirmed on Monday that it would provide Ukraine with armor-piercing rounds containing depleted uranium.

00:24:52.000 I've been ringing the bell on this, man.

00:24:53.000 You have been!

00:24:54.000 That's why I bring it up.

00:24:54.000 Depleted uranium is a nuclear weapon.

00:24:56.000 And you can say, tongue-in-cheek, hey, you stupid idiot. 1.00

00:24:59.000 No, it's not. 1.00

00:25:00.000 But listen, the Russian minister is acknowledging it.

00:25:02.000 They consider it nuclear armaments.

00:25:03.000 Maybe not nuclear weaponry as considered, but they consider it nuclear.

00:25:07.000 But, and that's all that matters.

00:25:09.000 They can now, as they are starting to do, use this as justification for the expansion into nuclear warfare.

00:25:15.000 And this doesn't mean ICBMs, because people need to understand, I think the first thing we're gonna see is probably nuclear artillery.

00:25:21.000 Which is, they're gonna load up a howitzer or some kind of artillery, they're gonna fire a nuclear shell with a decently large payload, it's not gonna be a megaton bomb or anything like that, but it's going to be massively devastating.

00:25:34.000 These are very, very powerful weapons.

00:25:36.000 So, the first They can argue nuclear war has already started with the use of armor-piercing depleted uranium.

00:25:44.000 And then the U.S.

00:25:44.000 will say, that's not true.

00:25:46.000 Nobody thinks that's what nuclear weapons means.

00:25:48.000 But of course, Russia and China are going to be like, these are nuclear weapons. 0.85

00:25:52.000 This is radioactive stuff.

00:25:53.000 Yeah, this says here, depleted uranium, both regular uranium and depleted uranium, and their immediate decay products emit alpha and beta particles and a small amount of gamma radiation.

00:26:02.000 That's from ec.eu.

00:26:03.000 Well, there you go, right there.

00:26:04.000 Radioactive weapons.

00:26:05.000 So what comes next?

00:26:07.000 Russia says, well, if they're using nuclear weapons, we need to respond in kind.

00:26:10.000 Then we get lower-yield nuclear artillery, massive explosions rocking Ukraine.

00:26:15.000 Then what?

00:26:16.000 The West escalates and uses low-yield missiles?

00:26:19.000 I think there's also concern that the dust that's created by the depleted uranium is breathed in.

00:26:23.000 A lot of it's really when it's in your body that can do a lot of damage.

00:26:26.000 Um, what's happening is they build tanks out of armor that are created with depleted uranium because it's so dense you can't pierce it with a lot of weapons.

00:26:33.000 So they need to make depleted uranium ammo in order to pierce the depleted uranium armor.

00:26:37.000 And then the ammo ends up in the dust, in the dirt underneath your feet.

00:26:40.000 That's the problem.

00:26:41.000 I mean, I gotta be honest.

00:26:43.000 This picture of how it works is really cool.

00:26:45.000 This gigantic artillery shell, look at this.

00:26:47.000 It's basically a gigantic cartridge, like a bullet, with a depleted uranium tail fin with a sabot around it, and then it fires, sabot disengages, and then rips through with a point.

00:26:59.000 It's two times denser, it's nearly twice as dense as lead, that's why they use it.

00:27:03.000 They say it's nearly unstoppable because of its density, so once it gets propelled, the inertia is just too powerful, it just rips through everything.

00:27:11.000 I mean, that sounds pretty badass, to be honest.

00:27:13.000 It's just horrifying.

00:27:14.000 Yeah, for a video game, I love it.

00:27:16.000 Right, right.

00:27:16.000 But for real life, it's not great.

00:27:19.000 The reason they have, like, the Hague and the war crimes and things, because, like, if you annihilate a country with depleted uranium, you're making it unlivable, essentially.

00:27:26.000 If the ground's peppered with depleted uranium, good luck growing crops and raising a family on top of that.

00:27:33.000 So it's like salting earth.

00:27:34.000 I mean, it's definitely a heinous war crime in my opinion, but out of desperation and armored tanks that can't be penetrated, they've had no arguably other choice.

00:27:42.000 I think we may see some kind of... I think World War III.

00:27:48.000 I don't know how or when, but I think it for one reason.

00:27:51.000 Because all of the oil-producing nations are teaming up.

00:27:55.000 China is working these deals to do oil trade in yuan as opposed to the dollar.

00:28:00.000 And the United States and NATO will never allow that.

00:28:05.000 I don't know.

00:28:05.000 What do you think, Matt?

00:28:06.000 I kind of feel like military-industrial complex will be salivating at the thought of an opportunity to go to industrial-scale warfare or beyond.

00:28:15.000 And the U.S.

00:28:16.000 is going to be like, we're not going to let these countries do this.

00:28:18.000 We will blow them up if we have to because we're not going to lose.

00:28:20.000 Yeah, I think they would love to have another war, regardless of the consequences for people.

00:28:25.000 But one of the most frustrating things about this is we're escalating while we're demilitarizing our ability to produce energy.

00:28:35.000 And I actually have friends in Ukraine and in that whole area.

00:28:40.000 My wife and I go speak to free market groups in all of these countries.

00:28:44.000 And our point was, why aren't you guys producing energy?

00:28:49.000 You're banning fracking, you're destroying your economies, and you've basically made yourself completely dependent on your enemy's sources of energy.

00:29:01.000 And all of this green stuff, there's a Green Deal in Europe that It's already been implemented.

00:29:06.000 This is the most destabilizing policy that empowers really bad guys.

00:29:12.000 And I happen to be a libertarian. 0.99

00:29:14.000 I think Putin is a horrible guy. 0.99

00:29:16.000 I think he is a criminal for invading Ukraine. 1.00

00:29:21.000 But I also think that Ukraine is incredibly corrupt country.

00:29:25.000 And I think the United States has no business in this because if you want to protect yourself from Russia, Do something for yourself, like clean up your own country, allow for the production of energy, and if you can't produce your own energy, allow for robust markets that allow you to buy the energy you need and not wait for Russia to shut off the pipeline. 0.75

00:29:47.000 This is not rocket science.

00:29:48.000 They haven't done it.

00:29:50.000 So Ukraine is banning fracking?

00:29:53.000 No, Ukraine doesn't do that, but Europe and particularly Germany and the UK and places like that.

00:30:00.000 Well, I think it's because, you know, when I look at the internal conflict in the United States, I can only assume it is intentionally driven by our enemies, like the woke left. 0.54

00:30:11.000 I look at what they believe in, what they're fighting for, and how insane it is, and how destructive it is, and how it is a major component in the victories for China, and I'm like, I kind of feel like they're doing it on purpose, like with TikTok, things like that. 0.90

00:30:25.000 They talk about the Russian disinfo campaigns and all that stuff, and I'm like, well, we know China's been hacking and attacking us with cyber warfare for a long time.

00:30:33.000 I wouldn't be surprised if a large component of the culture war Yeah.

00:30:37.000 is intentionally driven, not... And they did talk about this with Russia. They said it

00:30:42.000 wasn't necessarily intended to win an election, it was intended to sow division in the United

00:30:45.000 States. I'm willing to bet China's doing that to a great degree. That's what TikTok is.

00:30:50.000 I watched a video earlier where this woman was like, I am a bird. I am a bird. I am trapped

00:30:55.000 in a human body. And like, that's the kind of thing that TikTok promotes. So if you have

00:31:00.000 people in this country who are of sound mind saying, we cannot allow China to do the things 1.00

00:31:05.000 they're doing to the Uighur Muslims, etc, etc. And then you're on a committee with one

00:31:09.000 other person who goes, but I'm actually a bird. So I'd like to move this here to talk

00:31:14.000 about what we're gonna do about bird rights. And you're gonna be like, what?

00:31:18.000 I'm divided power with this guy?

00:31:20.000 China, the Chinese Communist Party knows we cannot function politically if half of our political system thinks they're animals or weird things and doesn't make any sense.

00:31:29.000 And that's where we're being bogged.

00:31:31.000 We have weight strapped to our ankles.

00:31:32.000 I don't see how we win this one.

00:31:35.000 I don't know, man.

00:31:36.000 If the U.S. 0.99

00:31:37.000 is on the verge of civil war or in one, or if the Democratic Party is just their whole die-on-this-hill moment is removing the testicles of children, then it's just like, okay, I guess. 0.98

00:31:48.000 Fortunately, I don't think the goal is to win. 0.97

00:31:50.000 I think it's more to coexist.

00:31:52.000 Like, there's no real endgame in diplomatic geopolitics.

00:31:55.000 It's just about can we survive together and thrive together.

00:31:58.000 That can be done.

00:31:59.000 But it can be done through trade.

00:32:00.000 It's primarily trade.

00:32:02.000 I wish that's what the world was doing.

00:32:05.000 No one's doing that.

00:32:06.000 Trade?

00:32:07.000 Who's trying to coexist together?

00:32:09.000 China and Russia at the moment.

00:32:11.000 Mexico and the United States.

00:32:14.000 It's an element of diplomacy that is like, how can we work together?

00:32:19.000 Against our common enemies.

00:32:20.000 Against our common enemies, or in a way that allows me to continue doing the things I like.

00:32:23.000 I think the problem is, you know, there are a lot of countries that feel morally compelled to insert themselves into issues and say, you can't live that way, or part of our doctrine is that we have to expand our power.

00:32:35.000 I mean, it doesn't have the isolationist boundaries that maybe we would like it to.

00:32:40.000 If we could just all stay within our own countries and, you know, cooperate when necessary, it might be a different tale.

00:32:45.000 But geopolitical I think there's a bunch of bad actors, but I'm not as afraid of Russia and China.

00:32:52.000 I think their economies are a house of cards as well.

00:32:54.000 And my argument is, if we would get our house in order, if our allies would get our house in order, we would not be vulnerable to their shenanigans because they don't have the resources to do what they do.

00:33:07.000 And I could quote Michael Malice's new Right.

00:33:11.000 But it's on us, right?

00:33:12.000 pointing out that top-down systems collapse.

00:33:15.000 Yeah.

00:33:16.000 Well, I agree, but that's why I'm saying I think the internal conflict is the problem we're facing.

00:33:21.000 Right.

00:33:22.000 If we can't- But it's on us, right?

00:33:24.000 We gotta fix it.

00:33:26.000 Well- Not just at this table,

00:33:28.000 but Americans gotta get their act together.

00:33:30.000 But I, but I, but I, I feel like that's the attack they're levying against us.

00:33:34.000 Making sure we can't like tick tock is a huge component right now.

00:33:38.000 You've got the Democrats trying to preserve it and the Republicans are barely doing anything about it.

00:33:42.000 They don't even know what the argument is.

00:33:44.000 Yeah.

00:33:44.000 I think banning it's not right at first because then it would lead to someone banning Twitter and you don't want to start banning companies from the States.

00:33:52.000 I mean, free the software code.

00:33:53.000 If you want to see what they're doing and what the algorithm is doing.

00:33:55.000 Fair point.

00:33:57.000 It's got to be like, and Elon might save us, and I'd hate to put all of our eggs in one billionaire's basket, but the solution to TikTok is an alternative that's not nuts, that's not manipulative, that allows the things we like, speech and argument and all the things that America is built on.

00:34:18.000 Who are you going to vote for in 2024?

00:34:19.000 I don't know yet.

00:34:20.000 Would you vote for Trump?

00:34:21.000 The problem has been is that these tech platforms have been centralized and basically speech

00:34:26.000 has been dictated by the FBI and CIA.

00:34:28.000 Who are you going to vote for in 2024?

00:34:31.000 I don't know yet.

00:34:32.000 Would you vote for Trump?

00:34:33.000 I'm not saying like you should, I'm just asking like would you consider voting for him?

00:34:37.000 You know, I was going to until he screwed up lockdown so badly.

00:34:43.000 I don't think I can forgive that.

00:34:44.000 That's a good point, man.

00:34:47.000 I'm pretty much for Trump right now.

00:34:48.000 We'll see what changes.

00:34:49.000 DeSantis, I feel like, is showing to be a big letdown.

00:34:53.000 I would prefer Dave Smith.

00:34:55.000 If someone said, name a person and they would be president, I'll go with Dave Smith.

00:34:59.000 Assuming he wants to be, hasn't announced yet.

00:35:02.000 In all practical reality, I'd probably end up voting for Trump.

00:35:05.000 What do you think of Vivek Ramaswamy?

00:35:08.000 I like a lot of what he's doing.

00:35:09.000 The ESG stuff is fantastic.

00:35:11.000 And maybe I'm agreeing with you on this.

00:35:14.000 I don't think you cut off trade with China.

00:35:17.000 I think you outperformed China.

00:35:19.000 And he wants to isolate our enemies through state power, and I want to isolate our enemies from outperforming them.

00:35:29.000 But I think he's quite interesting and quite provocative.

00:35:32.000 In a lot of ways, he's probably doing what Dave wants to do, which is change the conversation.

00:35:38.000 And this is a big debate within the Libertarian Party.

00:35:40.000 Are we running to win?

00:35:41.000 Are we running to change the narrative so that we can actually talk about some of these things that the two parties never talk about?

00:35:48.000 I think both, but you've got to build, right?

00:35:50.000 So obviously with the Libertarian Party, you've got a lot of building that's got to happen.

00:35:55.000 There's a percentage threshold that's got to be met, which means you've got to be serious contenders.

00:35:59.000 But in the meantime, the victories you get is changing the conversation.

00:36:03.000 So what have we got to do to get to a point where Dave Smith's on a debate stage with Biden and Trump?

00:36:07.000 That would be tremendous.

00:36:09.000 It would be fantastic.

00:36:10.000 They're never going to let him on the stage.

00:36:11.000 They keep changing the rules.

00:36:12.000 If he gets closer, they're just going to say, you know what, you need 20% of the polls to be on the stage.

00:36:17.000 But the point is, with all of these platforms, how many times do we have to point out that Joe Rogan is bigger than all three networks right before an election combined?

00:36:30.000 And point out that if we want to have that conversation outside of corporate media, we can do that now.

00:36:36.000 Yeah, and I also think that if Joe Rogan ran for president, he'd probably win.

00:36:41.000 He'd probably beat them both.

00:36:42.000 I'd vote for him.

00:36:43.000 See, I would vote for Joe.

00:36:44.000 I think a lot of people would, because he's like, you listen to him and he's talking about cultural issues which the right agrees with, but he's still somewhat of a moderate lefty kind of guy, so you kind of get a compromise, but he's just so popular.

00:36:58.000 I'm not saying he's going to run or he should run, I'm just saying that kind of personal connection and gravitas is what you need.

00:37:07.000 I'm thinking Trump.

00:37:08.000 I think Trump's got a lot of bad about him, but I view him as a slight net positive, mostly on foreign policy.

00:37:14.000 I don't completely blame him for the lockdowns.

00:37:16.000 I somewhat blame him for the lockdowns.

00:37:18.000 I think he surrounded himself with really bad people.

00:37:21.000 I'm also thinking now, You know what, man?

00:37:25.000 I'm willing to get him in the next four years if we can see more of that foreign policy.

00:37:30.000 If it's more of secure our borders, bring jobs back here and get our troops out of these other countries, make NATO pay its fair share.

00:37:35.000 All right, well, you know, then I'll take what we get domestically, but I think the economy will be good and I think he'll do a better job.

00:37:41.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:37:42.000 As you continue to dig into the sources of gain-of-function experiments and all that crazy mad science that Fauci and NIAID 0.99

00:37:53.000 was doing, that's actually a biosecurity program.

00:37:57.000 And there's a reason I suspect why Rand Paul has switched to the Homeland Security Committee,

00:38:02.000 because if you want to get to the bottom of COVID and you want to get to the bottom of

00:38:06.000 gain of function and you want to find out whether or not American taxpayers actually

00:38:10.000 financed the creation of a virus that created so much global disruption.

00:38:15.000 You've got to go after the national security state.

00:38:18.000 This is not the healthcare industrial complex.

00:38:21.000 It's national security.

00:38:22.000 So these things are very much related.

00:38:24.000 So whoever is going to be the next president is going to have to take on that.

00:38:28.000 And this is some place where Trump failed.

00:38:30.000 Let's jump to this story from the Postmillennial.

00:38:32.000 Breaking!

00:38:33.000 Arizona Supreme Court revives Carey Lake claim on signature verification.

00:38:38.000 So I'll give you the simple version.

00:38:41.000 Carey Lake filed numerous claims.

00:38:44.000 They were dismissed by a lower court.

00:38:46.000 Carey Lake appealed.

00:38:47.000 And one very important component, one of the most important, made it through.

00:38:51.000 Now the corporate press is saying Carey Lake mostly loses appeal.

00:38:56.000 If you're filing a lawsuit like this, you don't just say, here's my one complaint.

00:39:01.000 You get as many as you can and throw them all out there, scattershot, and then see which ones stick.

00:39:06.000 And Kerry Lake got one.

00:39:07.000 Signature verification.

00:39:09.000 The argument is, not just in Kerry Lake's case, but in Trump as well, the argument is, too many signatures got accepted that should not have.

00:39:19.000 That many of these probably didn't match, but they were letting them through anyway.

00:39:22.000 When Carrie Lake sued, they said, this is a procedure question and you should have sued before the election. 0.63

00:39:29.000 Well, now the Appellate Supreme Court has said, no, how would she sue unless there was something done that she can sue over, go back and redo this. 0.98

00:39:39.000 For all we know, the lower court just kicks it out again.

00:39:42.000 But it's entirely possible that they're forced to take it up.

00:39:45.000 The issue with Carrie Lake and with anyone involved in this is that every single person in politics save like, I don't know, five, ten people. 0.85

00:39:55.000 Okay, to be fair, maybe fifty. 0.99

00:39:57.000 They're cowards. 1.00

00:39:58.000 They're all cowards. 1.00

00:40:00.000 I feel like DeSantis is a letdown. 1.00

00:40:03.000 I feel like he is too weak.

00:40:04.000 Carrie Lake is strong.

00:40:05.000 Trump is strong.

00:40:06.000 I like that.

00:40:07.000 There are a decent number of strong people in Congress.

00:40:09.000 Matt Gaetz standing up to Kevin McCarthy was absolutely fantastic.

00:40:12.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert.

00:40:13.000 Despite the fact Marjorie Taylor Greene was in favor of Kevin McCarthy, she's stood up on a lot of issues.

00:40:18.000 But I look at these court cases and these judges and everyone's just like, oh man, I don't want to do this.

00:40:25.000 I don't want to be involved.

00:40:26.000 So what I guess I would say is, you know, aside from this story, I feel like a big thing that's being revealed right now is just how cowardly so much of our society and government is.

00:40:38.000 How many individuals are.

00:40:39.000 Probably why people voted for Trump.

00:40:41.000 Probably why people like Carrie Lake. 1.00

00:40:42.000 They want someone who's finally just going to stand up and say, screw off.

00:40:47.000 By the way, cowardice in politics is not a new phenomenon. 0.55

00:40:51.000 Oh yeah.

00:40:52.000 But I feel like it's more widespread and culturally ingrained at this point.

00:40:58.000 Maybe I'm just wrong, but I kind of feel like if you go back 100 years, you find most people weren't cowardly, although they were cowards.

00:41:03.000 Maybe it's more exposed because I think we complain about all the downsides of social media.

00:41:08.000 I think one of the powerful things that happens is that you realize that most politicians are telling you

00:41:14.000 what you want to hear without ever saying anything and you can dig a little bit

00:41:18.000 deeper now and you realize that they're empty suits.

00:41:21.000 So when we see someone who appears to be saying what they actually think,

00:41:25.000 and I think Carrie Lake is absolutely one of those people, that in and of itself, regardless of what she's saying, is

00:41:31.000 appealing to people because she's actually speaking what she thinks.

00:41:34.000 And that's attractive.

00:41:36.000 I mean, it would have been easy for her to say, like, this is corrupt and terrible, and then quietly fade into the background, right?

00:41:36.000 And she's not dropping it.

00:41:44.000 I mean, she must be spending tons of money on this legal battle, and yet she thinks it's worth it.

00:41:48.000 She's standing by what she said.

00:41:50.000 She needs to stand up for Arizona's voting integrity, and so she's going to push it for as long as she can.

00:41:55.000 And I think there is something refreshing about that, right?

00:41:58.000 It's very different than someone saying, like, this was stolen from me, or this was unfair, and then kind of doing nothing.

00:42:05.000 I think a lot of voters are very sick of the inaction, the fact that they don't fall through with anything.

00:42:11.000 Yeah.

00:42:12.000 No, it's kind of telling that when you search Carrie Lake, you see a host of articles like robots.

00:42:12.000 Oh, is it?

00:42:19.000 She mostly loses, I think.

00:42:21.000 That's the phrase.

00:42:22.000 Every article says the same thing.

00:42:24.000 That tells me that she probably accomplished something.

00:42:26.000 Yep.

00:42:27.000 Because how do you mostly lose?

00:42:29.000 If your goal is to get an argument in, they're like, well, she mostly lost.

00:42:32.000 It's like, is the lawsuit moving forward?

00:42:34.000 Yes.

00:42:35.000 So she didn't lose.

00:42:36.000 Well, she lost a lot of them, but the lawsuit is moving forward.

00:42:39.000 It's like, okay, well, that sounds like her loss is moving forward.

00:42:42.000 Mostly rejected.

00:42:43.000 AP has, Arizona court declined most of Lake's appeal over Governor's race.

00:42:43.000 Yeah.

00:42:48.000 And it's like, but they took something. 0.78

00:42:49.000 You're trying to frame it as, you know, she's this crazy wacko, but don't worry, she's being subdued. 0.99

00:42:54.000 And really, you know, the issues that matter and the ones that could make a difference are being moved forward.

00:43:00.000 I think a lot of the cowardice in politics comes from people being able to communicate from behind a keyboard and a computer in a locked room.

00:43:06.000 Like, a lot of the stuff people say to each other in social media, they would never say to each other face-to-face.

00:43:12.000 Look, man, the DeSantis response to the Trump indictment stuff was like getting a bucket of water splashed in the face.

00:43:18.000 I don't care.

00:43:19.000 A lot of people are like, you know, DeSantis said, I don't know what goes into paying a porn star hush money or whatever.

00:43:25.000 I don't care that he said that.

00:43:27.000 I care about the fact that he said, I'm not getting involved in this.

00:43:31.000 Instead of saying, F you. 1.00

00:43:33.000 Instead of just telling these lunatics to screw themselves. 0.99

00:43:38.000 He probably figures Trump's pissed off so many people and he's got no chance at winning. 0.96

00:43:43.000 And if he gets involved and gets on his side, he'll just be lumped into that.

00:43:46.000 No chance at winning. 1.00

00:43:46.000 Coward. 1.00

00:43:47.000 But I mean, he's not wrong that Trump has pissed off way more people than he needed to. 0.98

00:43:51.000 But he could have said, look, it's not about Donald Trump.

00:43:55.000 You don't have to like the guy.

00:43:57.000 I've got my differences with him.

00:43:57.000 He calls me a meatball.

00:43:59.000 But the idea that a six-year-old misdemeanor would warrant extradition from my state is laughable, so do not even try it.

00:44:09.000 And he's like, come on! 0.98

00:44:11.000 Where the balls at? 0.97

00:44:12.000 That's what he should have done. 0.98

00:44:13.000 I just don't see it. That's what he should have done. Yeah.

00:44:16.000 Yeah, it would take him from being just this suit That's sort of towing the line trying to to pick up both

00:44:21.000 sides You know people who are for Trump and people who are

00:44:24.000 against him and given him a personality, right?

00:44:26.000 Like he's not willing to take that risk and that's where you get this fear that he's becoming like a politician

00:44:31.000 Yes, and and who is he trying to win over with this, right?

00:44:34.000 The idea is that, well, a lot of people don't like Trump, and he could win the never-Trump-er Republicans.

00:44:38.000 Dude, all of the parental rights and education stuff that he's done, they're lying about it.

00:44:41.000 They're saying he's banning books.

00:44:43.000 The Lincoln Project's calling him awful and evil.

00:44:46.000 There's nothing to be gained from going the route he's going.

00:44:51.000 It may just be simple.

00:44:53.000 I don't know if he intentionally was trying to avoid being defensive of Trump.

00:44:57.000 The fact is he does not have it within him to be defensive of hardline principles in that way.

00:45:02.000 So when I see DeSantis, I see a guy who, you know, early on he's got these policy accomplishments.

00:45:09.000 I still think that's true.

00:45:09.000 He's a great governor.

00:45:11.000 And so you believe that here's a guy who gets it.

00:45:14.000 And now what you see over the past few months is here's a guy who's vanilla pudding who was given the correct script.

00:45:22.000 He's given the proper playbook.

00:45:24.000 He said, I will execute because I can understand people like this.

00:45:27.000 But then when it comes time to stand in front of the flames, he goes, oh, too much for me there, buddy.

00:45:32.000 He doesn't seem like the guy who sent illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard anymore.

00:45:36.000 He seems like someone else.

00:45:37.000 I don't know.

00:45:38.000 That's a good point.

00:45:39.000 I think that's too far.

00:45:40.000 I think it was a tactical mistake and I think he can recover from it.

00:45:43.000 The Martha's Vineyard thing?

00:45:44.000 Or you think the Trump statement stuff?

00:45:46.000 Yeah.

00:45:47.000 Yeah, I think the issue though is like the Martha's Vineyard thing was masterfully done.

00:45:51.000 And that's the kind of stuff you want to see.

00:45:53.000 But I kind of, I half agree with you.

00:45:56.000 I think there's an opportunity for him to come back and have that strong voice.

00:46:00.000 But I kind of do feel like this was a bit revealing.

00:46:04.000 And it's not so much about can he recover from it, so much so as we've learned a little bit about him.

00:46:08.000 But we'll see, we'll see.

00:46:09.000 He did a show with Glenn Beck that was pretty enlightening.

00:46:11.000 I don't know if you guys saw that.

00:46:12.000 It's worth watching.

00:46:13.000 I only saw it so far, about 10 minutes of it.

00:46:15.000 In fact, I'm realizing I should watch the entire thing.

00:46:17.000 Because it was like, oh, I see the humanity in this guy now.

00:46:19.000 He's a tactical guy.

00:46:20.000 He's like a JAG.

00:46:22.000 He was a Navy lawyer, JAG guy.

00:46:23.000 And he knows when to speak, when not to speak, when to let your enemy.

00:46:27.000 If your enemy's making a mistake, don't stop him.

00:46:30.000 That's probably what he's thinking with Trump right now.

00:46:31.000 He's like, dude, this guy's foot in his mouth.

00:46:33.000 He deserves this. 1.00

00:46:34.000 He paid off a prostitute that he had sex with while he was married and running for president? 1.00

00:46:37.000 Like, let him burn. 1.00

00:46:38.000 Let him deal with it. 1.00

00:46:39.000 I'm not getting involved in this crap. 0.99

00:46:42.000 He wants to win the presidency, I think. 0.99

00:46:44.000 Look, man, if DeSantis is the nominee, he's got my vote.

00:46:48.000 I like the guy.

00:46:48.000 I think he's doing really well.

00:46:50.000 I think he's a great governor.

00:46:51.000 I think he'll be a great leader.

00:46:52.000 And I think he's substantially better than anything anyone else has to offer.

00:46:56.000 But I understand why people like Trump, because Trump... You know, this is the thing why I said before that DeSantis might be a good VP is because DeSantis has what Trump doesn't.

00:47:03.000 Trump has what DeSantis doesn't.

00:47:04.000 Trump has that, like, boastful arrogance about him.

00:47:08.000 He is that guy who's gonna be like, don't you try it, don't come at me, it's not happening.

00:47:14.000 And DeSantis is the guy who's gonna be like, here's what the people actually want.

00:47:18.000 Here's me telling off the, you know, the lockdowns and actually...

00:47:23.000 Like solving these problems properly.

00:47:25.000 Trump's got the attitude, but DeSantis has the plan.

00:47:28.000 So I can respect that.

00:47:30.000 I think it's tough to say what would have happened, should have, whatever, but I think if DeSantis had been president when COVID struck that he wouldn't have let Fauci run the show.

00:47:37.000 He would have run the show.

00:47:39.000 I don't know, man.

00:47:40.000 I mean, he knows how to use the system.

00:47:43.000 He used his state of emergency in Florida and he held it open so that he could reposition funds to make sure that schools couldn't close down. 0.68

00:47:51.000 So it was like, yeah, he knew that this COVID crap was an emergency and it was making kids get masked when they were two and three.

00:47:56.000 So he's like, no, the emergency is that kids are getting masked up at four years old. 0.94

00:48:00.000 I'm not going to let that happen to kids.

00:48:02.000 That's an interesting question.

00:48:04.000 When it comes to actual policy, is Trump the kind of guy who's going to drop the hammer or is DeSantis?

00:48:09.000 DeSantis is the guy who sent a bunch of migrants to Martha's Vineyard as a powerful statement. 0.89

00:48:14.000 Trump's the guy who refused to fire Fauci because he was scared of political backlash.

00:48:18.000 I like the Navy lawyer.

00:48:18.000 So it's tough.

00:48:19.000 I like the experience.

00:48:22.000 I like having a lawyer in presidency.

00:48:23.000 Obama was a lawyer for better or worse.

00:48:25.000 You know how to game the system, man.

00:48:27.000 Yeah, I mean, the conversation with Glenn Beck and DeSantis, I did watch it.

00:48:32.000 And that's where DeSantis wants to be.

00:48:35.000 But he's struggling with, you know, how does he engage Trump?

00:48:39.000 Because he watched everybody get chewed up and spit out when you take on Trump, playing on Trump's turf. 0.99

00:48:46.000 Trump's going to kill you. 0.95

00:48:48.000 So this episode that we're talking about, DeSantis is like, do I engage? 0.99

00:48:54.000 Do I disengage?

00:48:55.000 What do I do with this?

00:48:56.000 Because I know what happens to everybody that goes toe-to-toe with Trump in terms of a pissing match.

00:49:02.000 He says that on the show?

00:49:03.000 No, no.

00:49:03.000 He talks about that?

00:49:05.000 I'm putting words in his mouth.

00:49:06.000 He's never going to say that out loud.

00:49:07.000 But that's kind of what I'm saying is, if it's not going to be Trump, it's got to be someone who can easily go toe-to-toe with Trump.

00:49:15.000 You know what I mean?

00:49:18.000 It shouldn't be hard to... Look, Donald Trump gets on stage, and he calls you names, and then you look at how the rest of the GOP handled it in 2016, and it was hilarious.

00:49:29.000 They could not handle, they didn't know what to do!

00:49:33.000 It's funny, I'm like, you need somebody who can actually stand toe-to-toe with Trump and fire back in the same way.

00:49:39.000 I don't know who could possibly do it.

00:49:42.000 To be fair, the Democrats don't have one either.

00:49:44.000 I mean, there's no one politically in America, I mean, unless the Libertarians are fielding someone I don't know about, there's no one who could take on Trump.

00:49:50.000 It's coming.

00:49:51.000 There's also a question of, is Trump still 2016 Trump?

00:49:56.000 We're starting to see a little bit of it, but a lot of people, his core fan base, said they were let down by his announcement speech.

00:50:01.000 Does he have the same level of energy?

00:50:02.000 Has he been toned down?

00:50:04.000 Is he going to be that fireball?

00:50:05.000 Should he be?

00:50:06.000 Some people have argued he's got to approach this differently as a former president.

00:50:10.000 Because before, I think, you know, who was that?

00:50:12.000 Was it Dave Chappelle?

00:50:13.000 He was like, first he was saying like, hey, look, man, I know what they're doing because I used to do it.

00:50:17.000 Let me in there.

00:50:18.000 Then he gets in there and does the same thing.

00:50:19.000 Yeah.

00:50:20.000 He came out of the house and said, they're cheating you.

00:50:23.000 And then he went back into the house.

00:50:24.000 So the question is, should he run as the outsider again, considering the fact he was president for four years?

00:50:30.000 Or does he now need to be the let-me-finish-the-job president and act differently?

00:50:35.000 I'm not going to pretend.

00:50:36.000 Patrick, bet David made that observation also.

00:50:38.000 I think you're right.

00:50:39.000 I don't think that the old tactic of like, I'm the outsider isn't where he's not the outsider, he's the front runner.

00:50:45.000 So he needs to play like I'm already the winner.

00:50:48.000 And when I win again, this is how I'm going to change the world.

00:50:51.000 Unless I see a mission and a meaning to it, I have no interest in playing party politics or identity.

00:50:58.000 Not to be one note, Johnny, I still think that the lockdowns and his relentless advocacy for vaccines as the thing that he did, I think that's his Achilles heel.

00:51:09.000 And I think as this goes on and all of the economic damage and all of the damage caused particularly to young people by vaccines becomes more apparent.

00:51:19.000 Trump owns that.

00:51:20.000 He proudly owns it.

00:51:22.000 And I don't know what he does about that, the older it festers.

00:51:25.000 You wouldn't have any advice for him?

00:51:27.000 Like, if you were on his campaign, you wouldn't know how to spin that message?

00:51:29.000 Or there's nothing he could do to sort of counterbalance that?

00:51:32.000 He still brags about how he personally made the vaccine happen.

00:51:37.000 That's not a good idea.

00:51:39.000 I don't think so.

00:51:40.000 But he thinks it's a good idea?

00:51:41.000 I feel like someone has... If he did it, it's a good idea.

00:51:45.000 Everything he does is a good idea.

00:51:47.000 He doesn't want to be like, you know, I was wrong or whatever.

00:51:50.000 So, fair points.

00:51:53.000 Not firing Fauci.

00:51:54.000 Supporting the lockdowns.

00:51:55.000 He's the guy who did the 15 days of slow the spread.

00:51:57.000 That was on him.

00:52:00.000 And DeSantis isn't that guy.

00:52:02.000 So that's why I'm saying, like, Trump has the attitude, but then there's a question of, is he going to step up this time, see what he did wrong, and fix it?

00:52:10.000 Or should we just be like, look, we got a real opportunity with DeSantis on this one.

00:52:12.000 We got a real opportunity.

00:52:13.000 DeSantis defied federal mandate.

00:52:16.000 Like, the largest, strongest government in world history, he said no.

00:52:22.000 And he did his thing the way he wanted it done as a governor, which is his just right.

00:52:26.000 And I think he would do the same thing as president against ESG.

00:52:28.000 I don't think he would let the international banking cartel own the United States.

00:52:31.000 But is it worth having four more years of Trump?

00:52:33.000 Because if Trump doesn't get elected this year, I mean, he is older.

00:52:37.000 Like, it's unlikely that he'll seek the presidency.

00:52:40.000 I mean, maybe he will.

00:52:41.000 I can't.

00:52:41.000 I don't know.

00:52:42.000 He does have stamina.

00:52:43.000 But then you could have four years of Trump and then theoretically eight years of DeSantis.

00:52:46.000 Or you could start DeSantis' presidential term now and never have Trump again.

00:52:50.000 I don't think we have time to waste.

00:52:51.000 I think it's the best-now-or-we-all-die kind of situation.

00:52:55.000 And for you, the best seems like DeSantis?

00:52:57.000 Far superior to Trump, if I had to pick between the two.

00:52:57.000 Yeah.

00:53:00.000 I think Vivek Ramaswamy's far superior to all of them.

00:53:03.000 I agree with that, but I don't see him winning.

00:53:06.000 I want to support him, so he does.

00:53:08.000 If we have that kind of influence, I mean, let's make it happen.

00:53:10.000 This is the crazy thing.

00:53:12.000 Most people will identify various people as probably more capable or better for a variety of reasons, but just not capable of winning.

00:53:19.000 And that's the reality.

00:53:20.000 So I don't know if it's, that's not the same thing as lesser of two evils.

00:53:23.000 I think Trump is a good option. 0.64

00:53:24.000 I genuinely do.

00:53:26.000 I think Vivek, probably better, uh, for a lot of reasons.

00:53:30.000 But maybe, you know, we have to ask ourselves, what is it we actually want from the president?

00:53:35.000 What do we want the president to do?

00:53:37.000 Do we want someone to set policy?

00:53:39.000 Is that it?

00:53:40.000 Then Ron DeSantis will go in and he'll be like, here's my agenda.

00:53:43.000 But is that guaranteed the agenda is going to happen?

00:53:45.000 Well, it's more of a congressional thing.

00:53:47.000 Do we want power, arrogance, strongman?

00:53:50.000 That's Trump.

00:53:51.000 Trump's gonna push people around.

00:53:52.000 But if he's got bad policy and he's got bad people because personnel is policy...

00:53:56.000 It's not going to be a good thing, is it?

00:53:57.000 I want a diplomat, but I don't want someone that gets walked over.

00:54:02.000 You know what it is for me that always makes me default back to Trump is the foreign policy stuff.

00:54:07.000 The foreign policy that he was engaged in is the best foreign policy I've ever seen from any president in my life.

00:54:11.000 But his domestic policy was horrid!

00:54:13.000 Like what?

00:54:14.000 It just divided the country.

00:54:15.000 He would tweet about far leftists.

00:54:17.000 Like what?

00:54:18.000 You're supposed to unify the country, bro.

00:54:20.000 You'll bring them together.

00:54:21.000 If you don't like the way they're behaving, give them something to live for.

00:54:23.000 I don't know if I care about the tweets.

00:54:25.000 Oh, the tweets, God.

00:54:28.000 Or, just to put it out there, or we could vote for Dave Smith and we could finally put Barack Obama in jail.

00:54:34.000 Dude, Vivek has that Dave Smith quality.

00:54:37.000 They're talking about breaking up the Department of Education and breaking up the FBI.

00:54:40.000 I mean, they're talking about similar things like scaling down the government.

00:54:44.000 Yeah, he's got a pretty bold message.

00:54:46.000 Is he running as a Republican?

00:54:46.000 I have a naive question.

00:54:48.000 Vivek?

00:54:49.000 Yeah.

00:54:50.000 Is Dave Smith gonna campaign on Lock Him Up?

00:54:50.000 Okay.

00:54:52.000 Lock him up!

00:54:54.000 Lock him up!

00:54:55.000 I think after this episode, yes.

00:54:58.000 I mean... Dave's listening.

00:54:59.000 Taking notes.

00:55:01.000 You know, it's a scary thought to arrest a former president.

00:55:05.000 But there's a challenge of, a legitimate question, do we ignore the actual crimes committed in our name?

00:55:10.000 Because I'm offended by it.

00:55:12.000 Yeah.

00:55:12.000 And just, like, arrest them all?

00:55:14.000 I do.

00:55:14.000 I'm sort of joking about a sitting president arresting former presidents.

00:55:19.000 That feels a little bit banana republic to me.

00:55:21.000 I'd love that there was a more objective standard of justice.

00:55:26.000 But our point stands, these guys committed crimes, and we shouldn't just sweep it under the rug.

00:55:32.000 I want to clarify, too, about Trump when I said his horrible domestic policy.

00:55:36.000 The tweets, the division, but also the COVID stuff, man.

00:55:39.000 That just, like, hands-off, let the dog bite kind of thing with Fauci, just let him go nuts with Jen.

00:55:45.000 He didn't deploy military to stop riots.

00:55:49.000 He didn't let people riot and burn buildings.

00:55:52.000 I mean if you think about that summer of 2020 and everything that happened like all of the businesses that were already suffering under the code mandates that then suffered even more and he didn't intervene it's hard not to forget that that final year of his presidency was really rough for him.

00:56:07.000 I think he did do a lot of great in the first three but Is that enough to balance out the final year?

00:56:13.000 I'm also kind of just like, I want to see Trump finish off what he wants to do.

00:56:20.000 I want to see him just have a crack at it.

00:56:22.000 I don't know if that's meaningless, like there's nothing really behind the idea, but there's

00:56:26.000 like an emotional part of me that's like, we just got to get, you know, Trump's got

00:56:31.000 to go in and then finish what he started, whatever that was supposed to be.

00:56:34.000 What is it?

00:56:35.000 I mean, the foreign policy stuff was huge.

00:56:35.000 What do you think he wants?

00:56:38.000 That, to me, is a massive component.

00:56:40.000 Shoring up our borders.

00:56:41.000 First thing he does, get rid of the TPP.

00:56:44.000 He wants to bring jobs back to America.

00:56:45.000 He wants to get rid of the car stuff.

00:56:46.000 He wants to secure our borders.

00:56:48.000 Better working class jobs. 1.00

00:56:49.000 Better manufacturing.

00:56:51.000 Getting NATO and our allies to pay their fair share.

00:56:54.000 Getting our troops out of these foreign countries. 0.93

00:56:56.000 All of that stuff sounds like the right track.

00:56:58.000 The economy was booming.

00:57:00.000 There are a lot of questions about spending.

00:57:01.000 There's a lot of issues with foreign policy.

00:57:03.000 I get all that.

00:57:04.000 But I'm like, I don't know what I get with DeSantis.

00:57:06.000 I see Florida.

00:57:07.000 I have a general idea.

00:57:09.000 With Trump, it's like, kind of want to see him just wrap that one up with a nice little bow.

00:57:13.000 What do you guys think about bringing back extremely dirty industry to the United States?

00:57:18.000 Totally in favor of it.

00:57:20.000 We need to be developing in Alaska.

00:57:23.000 Modern technology can address those concerns.

00:57:27.000 If we build a factory 70 years ago, and we've been updating it a little bit, well, it's no surprise it pollutes.

00:57:35.000 If we build a modern version of that factory from the ground up, we're going to mitigate a lot of those issues.

00:57:40.000 So an interesting thing happens with industrialization.

00:57:43.000 The United States' cellular data sucks because we're the first to roll it out.

00:57:48.000 We roll out, what was it, the IDEN network? 0.57

00:57:50.000 Might have been the first one. 0.98

00:57:51.000 And it's like garbage. 0.99

00:57:53.000 Foreign country like Ukraine doesn't get cell phones at all. 0.99

00:57:56.000 Then, we invent better technologies.

00:57:59.000 We end up with CDMA.

00:58:01.000 Ukraine begins to install CDMA, but instead of getting generation one tech like we built, they build third generation tech.

00:58:08.000 So I go to the United States.

00:58:10.000 This is way back, this is 10 years ago.

00:58:12.000 I'm using CDMA cell phones and getting like 0.1, 0.2 megabits.

00:58:16.000 I go to Ukraine, same cell phone, 2 megabits.

00:58:19.000 Well, how is that possible?

00:58:20.000 Because they have a modernized version of that new tech that was built.

00:58:23.000 If we're going to bring back these industries to the United States by easing on environmental regulations, yes, there's a risk of pollution.

00:58:30.000 However, We can set new leases for developing in areas like Alaska, which I believe is being tremendously wasted.

00:58:37.000 I'm sure a lot of Alaskans would love to have the development to improve their lives.

00:58:41.000 And when we build these factories, we build these developments, we can build them with modern versions of technology, which mitigates for a lot of the pollution and helps facilitate it away.

00:58:50.000 Yeah, we could rebuild the railroads with graphene instead of iron or whatever, steel, that warping, bending metal, something that's stronger because a lot of the problem with industrialization is the transportation of the materials.

00:59:00.000 High-speed rail, which we don't have.

00:59:01.000 You know, maglevs, where they're not even on the metal, they're gliding over the metal.

00:59:05.000 No friction.

00:59:05.000 Because it's a super-cooled superconductor, yeah.

00:59:07.000 No friction.

00:59:08.000 There's a new material called red matter that can be used for that.

00:59:11.000 It's an extremely awesome superconductor they just invented.

00:59:15.000 I agree.

00:59:16.000 I think the issue with Maglev is they have to be in cities with high power, whereas if we're going across countryside, you just want a car or something.

00:59:25.000 But yeah, we can build better, faster trains.

00:59:27.000 And we can build better infrastructure and build all these things.

00:59:30.000 The reason that Donald Trump wanted to ease environmental regulations was to bring companies back from China.

00:59:36.000 What happens is, and it's very obvious, the United States imposes environmental regulations, increasing the cost for a business to operate.

00:59:43.000 They then increase the taxes on that business.

00:59:45.000 They then cut tariffs.

00:59:48.000 And so the company says, it's going to cost me 20% in taxes and 20% more environmental regulations I have to offset.

00:59:56.000 Or, I can send my factory to China and ship the product here for free with no regulations, no taxes.

01:00:02.000 That's exactly what they do.

01:00:03.000 So when the Democrats got in, people are wondering, like, what did Joe Biden do that was so bad for the economy?

01:00:07.000 Well, uh, increased environmental regulations, increased corporate taxes, and decreased tariffs, resulting in companies fleeing the country and shipping the products back, stripping jobs away from Americans, and extracting the value from our economy and destroying the country.

01:00:21.000 We're watching it happen.

01:00:23.000 Yeah, it also takes our supply chain and gives part of it to the Chinese, which is a very, very high vulnerability for the supply chain. 1.00

01:00:30.000 Yeah, I'd take it a step further and say just raising the cost of producing energy in no way produces cleaner energy.

01:00:37.000 And there's all sorts of trade-offs.

01:00:38.000 If Thomas Massie was here, he'd point out all of the, quote-unquote, dirty industry that's involved with making clean energy.

01:00:47.000 And then there's the whole question of World War 3.

01:00:50.000 Maybe we should actually produce more oil and gas in this country and maybe our allies should as well so that we don't end in a nuclear winter because that's dirty too.

01:01:01.000 Have you ever played Civilization?

01:01:03.000 It's a great game.

01:01:04.000 Geopolitics.

01:01:05.000 If you have a huge trade network with your neighboring country, you've got eight trade routes, you're getting your iron from them, you're getting your horses from them, you've got most of your income from them.

01:01:14.000 If they go to war with you, it all goes to zero.

01:01:17.000 You have nothing.

01:01:18.000 And then they do, because you've been getting it from them.

01:01:22.000 That's it.

01:01:23.000 It's the worst situation when your trade partner stops or goes to war with you.

01:01:26.000 Kids in schools should be forced to play this game.

01:01:30.000 I say forced like it should be an assigned thing and the kids would love it.

01:01:33.000 It's an educational tool, yeah.

01:01:34.000 But anybody's ever played Civilization?

01:01:36.000 Tell Ron DeSantis.

01:01:37.000 He'll do that.

01:01:38.000 I'm not even kidding.

01:01:39.000 So here's an example.

01:01:39.000 Yeah.

01:01:41.000 In one of my playthroughs of Civilization, I had this very powerful and big nation.

01:01:45.000 And then when we got to the discovery of uranium, my country had no uranium at all.

01:01:52.000 There was none in my territory.

01:01:54.000 And so I had this massive expansion and growth.

01:01:56.000 Then when we got to this technological level, all of a sudden, the underdeveloped neighboring country that stole my technology with spies had tons of uranium and started building nukes. 0.99

01:02:06.000 And I'm like, damn. 0.99

01:02:08.000 They have it in their borders. 0.99

01:02:10.000 What do I do?

01:02:12.000 We're gonna go to war, and they've got this stuff, so what do you do? 0.57

01:02:15.000 Well, I mean, hope you don't go to war, and then you do, and then you're fighting, and they have uranium, and you can't, so you can't build these weapons, they can.

01:02:22.000 You gotta go seize that city that's got access to it, so you can build them, and they can't.

01:02:26.000 It's an amazing video game.

01:02:27.000 It's brilliant.

01:02:28.000 Yeah, it really puts the utilitarian aspect of war into clear view.

01:02:32.000 Like, if your opponent has a weapon that will destroy you, you have to take that away from them.

01:02:38.000 I mean, otherwise they will win.

01:02:39.000 And it's a game of winning and losing.

01:02:41.000 Real life isn't winning and losing.

01:02:42.000 It's about living together.

01:02:44.000 So it's not about... Is it like risk with more factors involved?

01:02:47.000 Yeah, it's not all about fighting.

01:02:48.000 You can win culturally, you can win religiously, diplomatically.

01:02:52.000 There's different ways to unite the planet and win.

01:02:54.000 Scientifically, you can launch a spacecraft first to Alpha Centauri.

01:02:58.000 You can take over cities through culture.

01:03:00.000 So you can actually have your cities produce music, movies, social media.

01:03:05.000 And then what happens is that culture expands your borders and influence.

01:03:08.000 And if it starts pressing upon another city with too much force, eventually the city will request to join you.

01:03:14.000 And then it makes the other country really angry, and then they can threaten war against you.

01:03:18.000 And you're like, hey look, they came to us.

01:03:19.000 It's kind of like, talk about the culture war.

01:03:21.000 That's the culture war.

01:03:21.000 You flip cities.

01:03:22.000 Like, in France right now, there's these riots and explosions and burning, and then the cops are on the side of the people.

01:03:28.000 Like, that's the culture flip.

01:03:30.000 So that can happen with literally cities as well.

01:03:32.000 Would that just happen?

01:03:33.000 The cops join the protesters?

01:03:34.000 Yeah, there's a bunch of cops walking with the protesters.

01:03:37.000 I saw a picture of Macron with his face palming, because it's been going on for months now or something like that.

01:03:43.000 Brutal widespread riots across France.

01:03:46.000 I mean, he survived a no-confidence vote, but the people do not like it, right?

01:03:50.000 The legislature allowed his government to stay in place, but he has really upset the people of France with his retirement plan issues.

01:03:59.000 I mean, I think... This game sounds really fascinating, and I don't think I've ever played it before, but I do think that When we talk about TikTok and we talk about kind of the American acceptance of what's going on with Ukraine or our involvement in it, a lot of that has to do with long-form cultural warfare that's been going on for a long time. 0.64

01:04:16.000 I think America thinks of itself as the leading exporter of culture in the world and that's just not true at this point and I think largely that is because of the internet.

01:04:26.000 Other countries can take some of our culture but also maintain their own, right?

01:04:29.000 So we saw this, there were a couple times that, you know, there are movies that China is rejecting that typically they'd let in or they are seeing their own original content outperform imported American movies and that's because they are prioritizing their own culture.

01:04:45.000 I think the way that we saw people sort of readily adopt

01:04:49.000 the Ukraine flag out of this understanding that like we should be helping them

01:04:55.000 is sort of this idea that we are the global citizens, this cultural war that we have put on our own people.

01:04:59.000 I don't know how you feel about this.

01:05:02.000 No, so I'm not a cultural warrior, but I think that culture is everything.

01:05:07.000 And so I tend to be sort of blue sky optimistic about letting people free to figure this stuff out.

01:05:16.000 And so I worry less about the fact that China is manipulating us or that Russia is manipulating us and that free people have a natural ability to figure stuff out.

01:05:27.000 Do you think that American, like the youth in America, is truly free? 0.91

01:05:33.000 And I only ask in the context of, you know, the algorithm on TikTok, we hear about it all the time, and I sound vaguely afraid of technology, but, you know, there is the idea that the youth in America are being fed content that is meant to psychologically disrupt them, right?

01:05:48.000 To encourage anxiety, to push other kind of You know, negative experiences and emotions, so therefore they are completely consumed by basically collapsing in on themselves while Chinese teens are being encouraged to pursue STEM and other things. 0.58

01:06:05.000 Like, are you truly free if you have this technological disruptor coming through?

01:06:11.000 Well, you're still free, but the phenomenon of a herd mentality and most people just sort of following the leader is not a new thing, and it's not caused by technology.

01:06:22.000 And most of cultural change and most of cultural development comes from those cultural entrepreneurs that speak up and say, you know what, let's do it a different way.

01:06:32.000 So I still have confidence in those young people that are thinking, because that's what

01:06:38.000 defines culture.

01:06:40.000 It's not just the mindless mob that shuffles forward like zombies, because that's always

01:06:46.000 been there and social media absolutely amplifies that tendency.

01:06:51.000 But someone's going to step out and say, guys, over here.

01:06:54.000 This is what we need to really care about.

01:06:57.000 And I think that's how the wisdom of crowds works.

01:07:00.000 Most of the crowd does not practice wisdom, but somebody says, guys, we're going in the wrong direction.

01:07:06.000 We've got to go this way.

01:07:08.000 And it always just works out.

01:07:10.000 Let's jump to this cultural story.

01:07:11.000 This is an interesting one.

01:07:12.000 We have this tweet.

01:07:14.000 I saw this image from Icons Women. 1.00

01:07:16.000 Hannah Arensman says, I have decided to end my cycling career.

01:07:21.000 At my last race at the recent UCI Cyclocross National Championships in the elite women's category, I came in fourth place, flanked on either side by male riders.

01:07:31.000 Awarded third and fifth places.

01:07:33.000 My sister and family sobbed as they watched a man finish in front of me, having witnessed several physical interactions with him throughout the race." 0.74

01:07:41.000 So, this is, this is, the photo is the woman crying as she's quitting because she was denied the podium by a male athlete.

01:07:49.000 There's another story where another male has won, I think, like 15 races?

01:07:53.000 Like 15 of 15 or some ridiculous number?

01:07:53.000 Yeah.

01:07:55.000 Just one in New York, right?

01:07:56.000 Yeah, just won one in New York.

01:07:58.000 And, uh, I feel bad for this woman, but I think she's doing the right thing in quitting.

01:08:02.000 And I think all of these women need to quit and maybe make a new league, maybe make the female division or something. 1.00

01:08:09.000 It's a great example of the leader that steps out of the herd and says, this is insane.

01:08:14.000 We need to stop doing this.

01:08:16.000 And she's going to pay an insane price. 0.96

01:08:19.000 She's giving up her dream and her career to do that. 1.00

01:08:22.000 But I think the tide is turning.

01:08:23.000 I think the insanity, people are starting to say, what are we doing here?

01:08:28.000 Well, we have a story here from TimCast.com.

01:08:31.000 World Athletics Council bans biological male athletes from competing against females.

01:08:36.000 Officials say the policy update is to protect the integrity of female athletics.

01:08:40.000 So it's starting to happen.

01:08:41.000 I mean, that's big, huh?

01:08:42.000 Yeah.

01:08:43.000 I mean, especially this issue.

01:08:44.000 I ran track in high school, so it's a sport I care a lot about, but there are, there was a group of track athletes in Connecticut that were some of the first to file a lawsuit and say, you can't let male, biologically male athletes compete with us because it does take away our right to compete in a sport.

01:09:02.000 Like you are flying in the face of something that theoretically feminism fought for. 1.00

01:09:06.000 And those two males were not undergoing hormone therapy or anything like that.

01:09:10.000 They were just males who were like, I want to compete against the females because I'm 1.00

01:09:13.000 a woman.

01:09:14.000 They said, fine.

01:09:15.000 And they kept winning every race and breaking records.

01:09:16.000 Yeah.

01:09:17.000 And it's especially like on the high school level.

01:09:19.000 It means that you don't show up on the rosters that college coaches get.

01:09:22.000 So you miss out on scholarship opportunities.

01:09:24.000 Like if if you are an elite athlete competing at that level, you can't expect a coach to

01:09:30.000 look at the list and say, oh, well, you know, these these names all appear female to me.

01:09:35.000 So what?

01:09:36.000 Why would I question this, right?

01:09:37.000 And especially if we're supposed to treat biological men who identify as women the same way, then you are literally giving away spots on teams and educational dollars to them when these girls have trained for so long to get to that place. 0.93

01:09:53.000 I mean, it seems like, to me, it seems like common sense, but I understand our culture has created a different narrative around this.

01:09:59.000 Well, I feel like, you know, Matt was saying, the insanity is starting to be pushed back against.

01:10:04.000 I think we're starting to win on this front.

01:10:06.000 So maybe that's a good thing.

01:10:07.000 Maybe the United States can finally get its act together.

01:10:09.000 There was a couple big moments.

01:10:11.000 One was when Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks agreed with Bernie Sanders saying, we want equality of opportunity, not outcome.

01:10:17.000 That's like, okay, welcome back to the mix.

01:10:19.000 And then we have, I think I have the tweet right here.

01:10:22.000 Anna Kasparian of the Young Turks tweeted, I'm a woman, please don't ever refer to me as a person with a uterus, birthing person, or person who menstruates.

01:10:30.000 How do people not realize how degrading this is?

01:10:32.000 You can support the transgender community without doing this-ish. 0.99

01:10:36.000 And of course she got ripped to shreds, the left went after her and started screaming at her and insulting her. 0.60

01:10:40.000 They're calling them the Young Turfs now instead of the Young Turks.

01:10:44.000 But I'm like, well, you know what?

01:10:45.000 If the young Turks are pushing back on the insanity gradually, I'll accept it. 1.00

01:10:48.000 I will take it.

01:10:49.000 And maybe we're going to start winning more ground in the culture war.

01:10:52.000 Man, and talk about, this is another one I think that there's really no winning or losing.

01:10:52.000 That's a good thing.

01:10:56.000 It's about can we coexist?

01:10:58.000 The victory is, can we all win?

01:11:00.000 And when you see, Anna went on Ben Shapiro's show a month ago.

01:11:03.000 And they had a great conversation.

01:11:03.000 I didn't know that.

01:11:05.000 It's fascinating to talk about Medicare for all.

01:11:07.000 I mean, it's legit.

01:11:08.000 And then I just saw Sam Seder went on value attainment.

01:11:11.000 So it's like people that you would consider from the left and the right are coming together to talk.

01:11:15.000 I think a lot of it's because of this banking fiasco, you know, the economy hitting its breaking point.

01:11:20.000 People are like, what choice do I have at this point?

01:11:22.000 I think there have probably always been people who say, like, hey, this is something that we should not, we should not pursue.

01:11:28.000 So because it's Women History Month, I've been writing about anti-feminists. 0.93

01:11:31.000 And this week I published a profile of Camille Paglia, which I'm definitely pronouncing her name wrong, but she is an academic at University of Arts in Philadelphia.

01:11:40.000 And she gets this reputation of being, you're nodding your head, of being the anti-feminist feminist. 1.00

01:11:45.000 She said, you know, I was a feminist in the 1960s and we fought for our rights to be free.

01:11:49.000 We fought so that we wouldn't have to have curfews in college dorms.

01:11:52.000 We could risk the right to be raped and attacked on campus because we wanted the right to take

01:11:57.000 care of ourselves and not be in the protection of men or whatever else.

01:12:01.000 And one of the things that she has gotten in trouble for in more recent years is saying,

01:12:06.000 you know, you guys should pay attention to biology.

01:12:09.000 You guys seem really interested in science, except for when it applies to this issue.

01:12:12.000 And she says, you know, you can't, your biology says you can't just suddenly decide you're a different gender.

01:12:17.000 And this has ousted her from the feminist community. 1.00

01:12:20.000 I mean, she still identifies as a feminist, but feminists don't want her there, even though she's one of the most noted academics in this ideology. 1.00

01:12:27.000 It's crazy.

01:12:28.000 She's the most legit feminist out there, and my wife and I have this fantastic argument, and I always lose arguments with my wife, but I consider myself a radical feminist, and I see the comments are gonna freak out here.

01:12:39.000 My wife considers herself an anti-feminist because we both believe in really strong women that have the right to determine their own destiny, and that's what feminism used to be about. 1.00

01:12:52.000 My childhood intellectual hero was a woman, Ayn Rand.

01:12:55.000 She turned me on to a lot of these ideas, And she was a badass who fled the Soviet Union after her father's business was stolen when she was still a teenager. 0.99

01:13:07.000 And she ended up in Hollywood as a scriptwriter.

01:13:09.000 That's badass.

01:13:11.000 And that's my sort of heroic view of what women can be in modern feminism. 1.00

01:13:17.000 And all of this stuff we're talking about, it is so anti-feminist in every single way.

01:13:23.000 And back to Anna for just a second.

01:13:25.000 That's a heroic stand that she's taking.

01:13:28.000 Because she's taking on her own audience.

01:13:30.000 Her own woke audience is trying to destroy her.

01:13:34.000 And it's one thing for us to criticize it.

01:13:36.000 My audience isn't gonna get mad at me if I criticize wokeism.

01:13:40.000 But she's gotta deal with that.

01:13:42.000 And that's a hero.

01:13:45.000 The Young Turks probably lost a lot of money by them coming out and saying this.

01:13:49.000 And I think it's a good thing.

01:13:51.000 And I hope they lose more.

01:13:52.000 Not because I want them to suffer, or because I'm trying to be mean, but because they need to free themselves from the shackle of this cult. 0.98

01:13:58.000 And if they no longer have any incentive to try and please these people, and it seems like they're already shaking that off, maybe they'll stop pushing a lot of that garbage. 0.88

01:14:05.000 So good for them.

01:14:07.000 I mean, what are the odds that she wants to jump ship anyways, right?

01:14:09.000 Like, if she's gonna take this stance, she must know that she puts herself- He's defending her.

01:14:14.000 He is?

01:14:14.000 Outright defending her and saying she's never gonna apologize for this.

01:14:14.000 Okay.

01:14:17.000 And he agrees with her.

01:14:18.000 So, I do think the main issue with the Young Turks is that they're duplicitous. 1.00

01:14:22.000 You know, I can respect her making the statement, but they make fake videos about me and other people all the time, so it's not like I expect them to ever be good people or anything like that, but I'll give them credit where credit is due.

01:14:31.000 We need to make these gains in the culture war and take what we can get when we can get it.

01:14:35.000 So, I don't know, I thought The Young Turfs was really funny.

01:14:38.000 That is funny.

01:14:40.000 It's less offensive than The Young Turks.

01:14:43.000 Like, they named their organization after the Armenian genocide.

01:14:46.000 It's crazy.

01:14:47.000 Amber Pasha.

01:14:48.000 I like your take about being an extreme feminist. 1.00

01:14:50.000 I always say that my dad is the biggest feminist I know. 1.00

01:14:53.000 He's constantly telling me I can do things and that I'm capable.

01:14:56.000 I don't like it.

01:14:57.000 It's the worst.

01:14:59.000 I feel like there are so many men, conservative men that I know who are advocates for strong, capable women, and they believe that women are completely capable.

01:14:59.000 No, but I'm being serious.

01:15:07.000 It's the victim mentality that has crept into this modern iteration of feminism that I just can't get behind. 1.00

01:15:13.000 I don't understand why it would be appealing to anyone.

01:15:16.000 I also just hate giving up words that are packed with meaning and value, and we always find ourselves like...

01:15:24.000 attacking the word justice or attacking the word democracy or attacking the word community

01:15:30.000 because it's been co-opted to mean something that it doesn't mean.

01:15:34.000 And I think we should be feminists because we're pro-women. 0.99

01:15:37.000 And just define what you mean and don't let the bastards steal our language from us. 0.98

01:15:43.000 And that's, we're in the fourth wave of feminism, the word, but the word has different meanings in every wave. 1.00

01:15:48.000 The second wave of feminism is the one you're talking about. 1.00

01:15:50.000 That's the one I was raised with.

01:15:51.000 My mom, I was like, as a very young kid, I asked my mom, does feminism mean that women are better than men?

01:15:56.000 She said, no, feminism means that men and women are equal. 1.00

01:15:59.000 And that was all I needed.

01:16:00.000 It changed my life.

01:16:01.000 I was like, oh, okay, I get it.

01:16:03.000 It didn't make sense, but I got it.

01:16:04.000 If you ask a trans activist, they will use the phrase cis woman.

01:16:10.000 But they want you- they say trans women are women, so just say woman. 0.99

01:16:15.000 CIS women, however, are CIS women. 0.79

01:16:17.000 You see what they're doing?

01:16:18.000 Yeah.

01:16:19.000 They are taking the normative term woman, applying it to themselves, and then making CIS women the outlier, the other. 0.98

01:16:26.000 The reality is, if you're a man and you want to transition to a woman, you can be a trans woman, and you're still a man.

01:16:32.000 You never stop being a human.

01:16:33.000 You're still a human.

01:16:34.000 Like, you don't end one to become the other.

01:16:36.000 You become both.

01:16:37.000 So, it's very important to realize that women are women, and they can also be trans men and women at the same time.

01:16:43.000 Trans woman is a subcategory of male. 0.61

01:16:46.000 Exactly.

01:16:46.000 So you're a man and a trans woman, or you can be a woman and a trans man, but you don't, like, lose one when you try and, like, trans it.

01:16:52.000 You're still the same.

01:16:53.000 You're still a human.

01:16:54.000 You never stop being a man.

01:16:55.000 You never stop being a human.

01:16:56.000 You're still, even if you identify as a shoe, you're still a human.

01:16:59.000 But this is like where the concept of deadnaming comes in, right?

01:17:02.000 Like if someone says, you know, now that I have accepted this identity and I believe I'm supposed to be like this, you should never refer to me and even reference, I don't want to see pictures of this person I was before.

01:17:12.000 I mean, they do feel as though they can completely leave behind, you know, this part of themselves.

01:17:18.000 They can.

01:17:18.000 They can do whatever they want and I'll do whatever I want.

01:17:20.000 But the whole, like, this is who I was before, like, it's still now.

01:17:23.000 You're still you.

01:17:24.000 You are different and you're still you.

01:17:26.000 Like, it doesn't...

01:17:28.000 You know, I don't know.

01:17:29.000 It's not like you're no longer what you were.

01:17:32.000 You're still that and more now.

01:17:36.000 But Tim's point is, we're not giving up the word woman.

01:17:41.000 That's our word.

01:17:42.000 We know what that means.

01:17:43.000 That's our word!

01:17:44.000 You can't say it?

01:17:44.000 Yeah.

01:17:45.000 Well, no, like, cis, het, cis, they're slurs. 0.83

01:17:49.000 If they're gonna make the argument that trans women are women, then I'll make the same argument and say that you can't say cis woman. 0.55

01:17:54.000 That's derogatory in the same way you claim it is, so your own logic negates your right to do so.

01:17:59.000 That being said, I mean, like, trans woman defines something.

01:18:05.000 It is a biological male who identifies as female.

01:18:08.000 There you go.

01:18:08.000 End of story.

01:18:09.000 You can't then say you are a woman.

01:18:11.000 Well, you're a trans woman. 0.84

01:18:12.000 There's a qualifier for that because you are different from woman. 1.00

01:18:17.000 Yeah, you can't be a trans woman if you're a woman. 1.00

01:18:19.000 You have to be a man to be a trans woman. 1.00

01:18:21.000 Yes.

01:18:23.000 Yeah.

01:18:24.000 And you have to be a woman to be a trans man. 0.97

01:18:27.000 So they're playing with definitions, I think, for legal reasons.

01:18:30.000 Because if they can get the culture to start arguing that woman includes males, it changes civil rights law.

01:18:39.000 And then you see these like Pete guys beating women in races and things like I understand.

01:18:43.000 I want to project that future because it looks like people are waking up and kind of acknowledging how dirty it is for a guy to be like, I feel like a woman and I'm going to take your trophy lady.

01:18:52.000 Like what the?

01:18:53.000 Hell kind of world is that people get really annoyed about it when it's

01:18:57.000 When you have college athletes who are like not that particularly good and then they come back and they said

01:19:04.000 actually I identify as Female and so they outperform

01:19:07.000 Everyone else. I mean we've seen this time and time again I think part of it is because they're basically saying I

01:19:13.000 realized that I could probably beat you guys And I don't want to downplay whatever psychological

01:19:18.000 elements that come into this kind of decision-making but you know, it does seem crazy that you would just say

01:19:24.000 like I I

01:19:27.000 think I deserve this and I will continue to compete as if I am just as entitled to

01:19:32.000 this position as you are when really I'm Competing with advantages that you could never have

01:19:36.000 have.

01:19:38.000 I'm very grateful that this girl came out and made that statement.

01:19:40.000 What was her name again?

01:19:41.000 Did you have that?

01:19:42.000 Hannah Arensman.

01:19:43.000 I'd love to have her on the show sometime. 1.00

01:19:44.000 Taylor Silverman spoke out about this a long time ago, and it really improved her standing and career, as far as I can tell.

01:19:49.000 She seems really happy about it, and was really scared about speaking up about it, but she wasn't happy.

01:19:53.000 Yeah, she works here! 1.00

01:19:55.000 Yeah, she works with Tim Kast now.

01:19:56.000 We've been trying to put a skate show together for a long time, but we need the new facility to be built, and it got delayed for so long that we were planning on having the show started like seven months ago.

01:20:06.000 But now the building's nearing completion, so we may actually get that ball rolling.

01:20:10.000 And then we have some other Pro Skateboarders in mind who are going to co-host the show.

01:20:14.000 But I'm just like, we've got to provide support to people who are doing the right thing standing up.

01:20:20.000 And Taylor's good people.

01:20:22.000 She's super nice, you know, super chill, and just said, hey, it's not okay that, like, I would have got first place and made more money, but now it's being taken away from me.

01:20:30.000 So we did this thing where I wrote her a check, and we did, like, a big fake check saying, like, here's the difference, here's what you would have won, and we paid that.

01:20:38.000 And then offered her a job and said, you know, why don't you host the skate show once we get it going?

01:20:42.000 And then we'll get it going.

01:20:43.000 I think one of the most important, there's several things that we need to do if we're going to win a culture war.

01:20:47.000 One is make culture.

01:20:48.000 That's why we've been working on these projects.

01:20:49.000 We have a video game in development.

01:20:51.000 We've got the coffee shop in development.

01:20:53.000 The new facility is going to include a bunch of new shows.

01:20:55.000 A morning show with a bunch of ladies. 0.99

01:20:57.000 We're going to do the skate show.

01:20:59.000 We're going to do poker with the boys.

01:21:00.000 Poker with the boys I am most excited about.

01:21:02.000 That's going to be the best show ever.

01:21:04.000 Because during the Members Only show the other night when we had Troy Nails on, Congressman, someone suggested, like, members of Congress need to do these things like AOC did with playing Among Us on Twitch and getting all these viewers.

01:21:18.000 Why don't you do that?

01:21:20.000 Well, I don't think it makes sense for, like, you know, a late 50s or 50s-ish, you know, member of Congress guy to be, like, playing a video game with some kids.

01:21:28.000 But you get a Matt Gaetz, a Troy Nails, and, like, a Lauren Boebert playing a game of poker with a bunch of people, and they're talking smack, and that's the kind of thing that's personable and relatable and culture-building.

01:21:38.000 Yeah.

01:21:39.000 So that's another big component.

01:21:40.000 The other thing is...

01:21:42.000 Giving money to people who are doing good things, right?

01:21:44.000 James O'Keefe does this.

01:21:46.000 When a whistleblower would come out, he'd be like, we're going to give you a job.

01:21:49.000 We're going to make sure that you do not get punished for being a whistleblower.

01:21:52.000 And I'm like, I'm thinking the same thing.

01:21:53.000 Taylor Silverman did the right thing.

01:21:55.000 We want to do a skate show.

01:21:56.000 We need a host.

01:21:57.000 Perfect opportunity for a good person who has good principles and the courage to speak up to be given an opportunity.

01:22:03.000 So let's make sure the people who are speaking up don't have that fear where it's like, this woman, Hannah Arendsman, She's ending her career, her cycling career.

01:22:11.000 What does that mean for her income? 1.00

01:22:13.000 What does it mean for her future?

01:22:15.000 There needs to be something for her now.

01:22:18.000 So we need to figure out how to do that.

01:22:19.000 How can we make sure that there are resources available to people who want to stand up and do the right thing.

01:22:23.000 They do not get left destitute.

01:22:25.000 I mean, especially in this case, I feel like she is officially ending her career, but her career is also being ended for her, right?

01:22:31.000 If you're a competitive athlete like this, I mean, there must be a prize associated with each level.

01:22:35.000 So if you can't place first, second, or third, then you are missing the potentially large payout that you need to fund the training and everything else that goes into this career.

01:22:45.000 And the sponsorships that go with placing top three.

01:22:47.000 should go with that. I mean, I can't imagine that these brands are like, oh, I'll sponsor

01:22:51.000 number four, the one who consistently comes in fourth. But it's sort of, you know, a rigged

01:22:56.000 game. She's being forced out of this income that she's built for herself, which, of course, 1.00

01:23:01.000 as an athlete, there's a clock on that anyway. You can't necessarily compete forever. It's

01:23:05.000 just sad that this is happening.

01:23:06.000 Why don't we just have transgender divisions? Why is it that there was the Isaac Hennig, 0.72

01:23:13.000 who is biologically female competing against women and then transfers to the men's team

01:23:18.000 and says, now I'm not winning as much.

01:23:20.000 Oh, so you acknowledge this.

01:23:22.000 There's this lie among the left where they're like, there's no advantage to being male in sports, then why are the females competing against males? 0.59

01:23:29.000 There's like two.

01:23:30.000 And they both acknowledge they don't do as well.

01:23:32.000 Duh.

01:23:33.000 Why is it only ever males competing against females?

01:23:36.000 Because anybody who's sane understands this.

01:23:38.000 And the problem I see with this, if I'm gonna go into a committee hearing and be like, as a member of this committee, I cast my vote to say, obviously males will have physical advantages over females. 0.63

01:23:50.000 And then the other guy sitting across from me goes, no they don't, I vote against you.

01:23:53.000 And I'm like, okay, this is not democracy.

01:23:55.000 This makes no sense.

01:23:56.000 Democracy does not work.

01:23:58.000 We cannot function this way.

01:24:00.000 If you have two people, one's insane and one's sane, you get nothing.

01:24:05.000 Well, we don't want a mixture of sane and insane.

01:24:06.000 We want sane.

01:24:08.000 We want a sane system, but we have insane people voting for insane things for insane reasons.

01:24:13.000 So you build a republic, and you hope to God that people vote insane people. 0.67

01:24:16.000 I guess if you get enough insane people, maybe they'll vote in an insane person. 0.98

01:24:19.000 And they are. 0.98

01:24:21.000 Somehow.

01:24:21.000 But most of the people in Congress are way more sane than a lot of the crazy stuff I'm seeing on the internet.

01:24:28.000 I don't see, like, crazy... I don't want to start blaming people.

01:24:30.000 I just want to see what happens with Gen Z, right? 1.00

01:24:32.000 Like, I am so fascinated because theoretically they are marginally more conservative than generations before them, but also 15% 1 in 6 identify as LGBTQ, I guess.

01:24:45.000 So they're kind of divided among themselves.

01:24:47.000 It seems like they are drifting in in tons of directions.

01:24:49.000 Although I feel like we talk about this a little bit, like there are things that I think our generation feels differently about.

01:24:56.000 Like we there are a lot of millennials who feel more social liberal.

01:25:00.000 They take a fiscal conservative approach.

01:25:01.000 Like they are not as rigid in their political stances as generations before them.

01:25:07.000 I think Gen Z is going to be hard to predict in that sense because we feel like someone will stand, like you were saying before, someone will come to the surface and say like, hey, let's not do this anymore. 0.99

01:25:15.000 But I feel like there are enough components of that generation that believe really, really intensely in the dogma of what they're being taught.

01:25:23.000 Young people are always up for grabs. 1.00

01:25:24.000 They're always trying to figure out who they are and where they belong.

01:25:29.000 And not everybody's going to take the lead in figuring it out.

01:25:32.000 And it's going to be someone that they respect from their generation that steps out and maybe they quit cycling because of something insane.

01:25:42.000 And that becomes a defining moment in their sort of figuring out where they belong.

01:25:48.000 And I just have a lot of confidence in people.

01:25:51.000 I love it.

01:25:52.000 I love the positivity.

01:25:53.000 I don't think we're all crazy.

01:25:55.000 We're not the people you see on Twitter.

01:25:57.000 It's going to be OK.

01:25:58.000 You have a much too high opinion about members of Congress, I must say.

01:26:02.000 You've got to bring that in.

01:26:05.000 Maybe.

01:26:06.000 I'm learning to love them because I've been spending time with them and hanging out with them.

01:26:09.000 Be careful.

01:26:09.000 It's intoxicating.

01:26:10.000 Yeah, but he's talking about two members of Congress.

01:26:14.000 Matt Gaetz.

01:26:14.000 I keep talking about Matt.

01:26:15.000 I love you, Matt.

01:26:16.000 I understand.

01:26:17.000 It's kind of like a club.

01:26:21.000 I don't like alliances.

01:26:22.000 I don't like cliques.

01:26:23.000 And like, I feel like maybe when you get into Congress, first of all, it's way too big.

01:26:27.000 It's not working right.

01:26:28.000 It was made for like 80 people to be our representatives.

01:26:30.000 There's 430 and they don't even know each other.

01:26:32.000 It's disturbing.

01:26:33.000 Like you walk around the halls of Congress, I won't see 95% of the people or their offices because they're all over everywhere.

01:26:40.000 I never saw them hanging out.

01:26:41.000 It's like a big deal to get five Republicans together.

01:26:46.000 So that's a big problem with Congress is it is way too big.

01:26:50.000 They need to know each other and work together.

01:26:51.000 The other problem is congressional districts keep getting denser and denser.

01:26:56.000 775,000 people for one rep.

01:26:58.000 Good luck getting represented.

01:26:59.000 Yeah, we need a severe overhaul the way we govern.

01:27:02.000 I don't want to like rip the government apart, but it needs to change.

01:27:04.000 We need to adapt.

01:27:05.000 There is one alternative.

01:27:06.000 I mean, maybe the answer is there needs to be less people and we can maybe implement programs to encourage them not to have children.

01:27:13.000 Sickeningly, that would do it.

01:27:15.000 That would be one way to get there, I think.

01:27:17.000 But yeah, Bill Gates, huh?

01:27:19.000 I think if people could represent themselves a little easier, because the whole purpose of sending a representative was so that they could represent you more effectively than you could represent yourself.

01:27:27.000 But now with the Internet, you have an opportunity to throw up an Internet video and that's full representation of who I am.

01:27:31.000 Wouldn't a step in that direction just be returning more power to the states, right?

01:27:36.000 Because then you're being represented on a smaller level.

01:27:38.000 I mean, right now, Tim is totally right.

01:27:42.000 For each member of Congress, really, there's a huge number of people they're representing in the US.

01:27:46.000 If you were to give them equal representation on a federal level, you'd make Congress even bigger.

01:27:51.000 I think it'd be like 8,000 people.

01:27:52.000 It would be insane. 0.85

01:27:53.000 It would be ridiculous.

01:27:55.000 They could never get anything done.

01:27:56.000 Or, hear me out, crazy talk, what if we let people make more decisions for themselves?

01:28:01.000 Is that insane?

01:28:01.000 Interesting.

01:28:02.000 Well, yes.

01:28:03.000 How would that work, right?

01:28:05.000 So when we have woke people who are like filibustering this woman in Nebraska, demanding, demanding

01:28:12.000 the legal right to castrate children, it's like, okay, how far do we want to go with

01:28:21.000 And how far does her decision-making powers go in this country? 0.93

01:28:24.000 Are we talking about she can only affect her local jurisdiction? 0.99

01:28:27.000 Then the question is, if I live in West Virginia and I hear that in Ohio, but to the hundreds, to the thousands, they're giving young girls mastectomies and sterilizing them, do we just go, well, you know, I don't know, that's Ohio.

01:28:41.000 We're not going to get involved in that.

01:28:43.000 Or do we say like, hey, we got to stop that.

01:28:46.000 So I always lean towards making sure that parents have more rights.

01:28:53.000 And when I see school districts, which are government entities, when I see state politics or local politics intervene in that relationship, where a lot of this stuff is coming from, I think that's the cancer that needs to be wiped out.

01:29:06.000 And I think parents have to have that responsibility.

01:29:09.000 I'm not saying that parents will get it right every time.

01:29:12.000 Last night's show proved that.

01:29:15.000 But I trust parents more than politicians, and I absolutely trust parents more than these interest groups that are feeding off of this system.

01:29:24.000 There's huge financial benefits to all of these therapies and drugs and treatments.

01:29:32.000 That's all intertwined with government.

01:29:35.000 And if we're going to unwind that, we have to shift power back to parents, power back to people,

01:29:40.000 power back to communities to judge parents who aren't doing a good job.

01:29:43.000 But who gets to define what a good job is, right?

01:29:47.000 So the challenge is there's two arguments. 0.99

01:29:51.000 The left argument is not cutting off the child's testicles is genocide. 0.99

01:29:56.000 That's what this woman said outright. 0.99

01:29:57.000 She said it is genocide.

01:29:59.000 They genuinely believe, or at least they presume to believe, that they're saving children's lives.

01:30:07.000 Well, by that argument, they're preventing a genocide.

01:30:10.000 You're going to have a community of people be like, we're all here in agreement preventing genocide is bad, therefore we're going to sterilize a bunch of kids.

01:30:16.000 I mean, I think that view's insane, and I think that parents would reject it.

01:30:21.000 But we're watching in California the embracing of it en masse.

01:30:25.000 They're codifying it in law.

01:30:27.000 In, I think, Washington, a child can get- They're codifying.

01:30:30.000 That's my point.

01:30:31.000 But in Washington, I think it's Washington, a child can get gender-affirming surgery and medical intervention without parental consent.

01:30:39.000 They can go to a doctor and just get it done.

01:30:41.000 By law.

01:30:42.000 By law.

01:30:43.000 What if you gave, first of all, that is the opposite of what I'm talking about.

01:30:48.000 What if you gave parents the rights to, it shouldn't even be a right.

01:30:52.000 Like, parents are the governing body of their children.

01:30:56.000 Did you see the video of Jazz Jennings we talked about the other day?

01:30:59.000 Yeah, I listened to it last night.

01:31:00.000 What about parents like that?

01:31:01.000 Do we give them the right?

01:31:03.000 I think you have to err on the side of even, like, Not in that specific case.

01:31:13.000 I think you should intervene because that's violence against a person.

01:31:17.000 That would require state powers determining morality to intervene and stop parents who are doing things we deem bad.

01:31:24.000 Or community standards still protect life and property.

01:31:30.000 Don't hurt people and don't take their stuff as not true because it's a law.

01:31:34.000 But their argument is they're not.

01:31:38.000 The system we have now is supposed to have a federal government which protects rights.

01:31:41.000 And if we have a shared and cohesive morality, you do not allow a parent to do, to jazz what that woman is doing to that poor, poor human being.

01:31:51.000 For those who are not familiar with the story, it's a viral clip.

01:31:54.000 Of Jazz Jennings' mother saying she wakes Jazz up in the middle of the night, grabs a dilator, lubricates it, and says, stick this in or I will.

01:32:02.000 I mean, that's the most hor- it's horrifying.

01:32:03.000 And then she even says, if she goes off to college and doesn't do this, I'll wring her neck. 0.90

01:32:07.000 And it's just like, jeez.

01:32:11.000 But among that community, they believe they're in the right.

01:32:14.000 I believe the state should stop these insane people from committing what I believe... I mean, look, if an adult human being makes a decision to get surgeries and do whatever, I'm like, okay, well, you know, that's your life, right?

01:32:27.000 You want to look like a cat and get implants in your face?

01:32:30.000 But this child's been, in my view, tortured their whole life.

01:32:35.000 They're depressed. 0.80

01:32:35.000 They're morbidly obese. 0.80

01:32:37.000 They're clearly not wanting to carry on with this.

01:32:39.000 This is where I think the state needs to come in and save this person.

01:32:42.000 Because it is on television, a woman saying, if you don't jam this in your wound, I will do it. 0.98

01:32:48.000 And it's like, at what point is this physical abuse and psychological abuse?

01:32:53.000 If you gave these people reigns of their own community, they would keep doing things like this.

01:32:57.000 I mean, there were genital mutilations going on in Dearborn, Michigan.

01:33:00.000 We've talked about those years ago.

01:33:03.000 I think that's a challenge for me with libertarianism, where you make this argument that parents have the final say in the health care of their children. 0.99

01:33:11.000 And it's like, OK, well, this lady thinks health care is cutting off her daughter's tits. 1.00

01:33:15.000 Like, I disagree with that. 1.00

01:33:16.000 Like, well, of course, we all agree that's wrong.

01:33:17.000 Yeah, well, they don't.

01:33:19.000 And if we send in federal authorities to stop them, they'll scream civil war.

01:33:23.000 So that's why I'm like, I don't know what the solution to this is.

01:33:25.000 It's a dilemma because some parents are going to get it horribly wrong.

01:33:30.000 And my question is, if we say that the state is in charge of protecting children, what if the crazies get to write the laws that start mandating these kinds of things?

01:33:43.000 They're doing that.

01:33:44.000 This is a conversation that, when I got really interested in libertarianism, it was when I was interested in, I thought I was going to go into foster care and work on adoption law.

01:33:52.000 Because there are all times that we agree there are children who are in incredibly dangerous situations with parents who are not fit to take care of them.

01:34:00.000 Because if you believe in limited to no government, how do you also protect these children?

01:34:00.000 And what do you do?

01:34:06.000 And it was some this crux that I never got a clear answer on.

01:34:09.000 I hate to say that because again with with transgenderism it's a little bit different because people feel as though they are doing what's right as opposed to like Yeah, you know, more obvious, we can all agree this is complete and total abuse. 0.73

01:34:23.000 But what do you do?

01:34:24.000 Make them wards of the state?

01:34:26.000 Yeah, I mean, before there was a welfare state, there were churches and other social institutions that emerged to help solve these problems.

01:34:35.000 And there is absolutely no perfect solution to a broken family.

01:34:39.000 I know it's terrible because the thing is like you want to believe that a community organization whether it's run by just the people of that community or their religious group could also protect them but ultimately we know that's not always the case and it just feels like especially when you talk about young children it's such a gamble and there's not a lot of time you can't really Say, oh, we'll try it with something with this batch, and then we'll see if we get it right the next time, because you're obviously right.

01:35:01.000 I just think that you're always better off with local peer pressure and community institutions making sure that children are okay.

01:35:11.000 The further away you get from that child, all the way up to Washington, D.C., or, you know, God help us, some global thing that's going to emerge, they don't give a damn about that kid.

01:35:23.000 What about marketing like corporations?

01:35:23.000 No, they don't.

01:35:25.000 Because television is local.

01:35:27.000 It's in your house.

01:35:28.000 But obviously, the corporate headquarters is could be in Kansas or wherever.

01:35:32.000 So what are your like?

01:35:35.000 I mean, a corporation can't make you do what they want you to do unless they happen to be a pharmaceutical company that cuts a deal with the government to force you to take their product.

01:35:44.000 Or like show a kid cartoons of a guy eating sugar when they're one.

01:35:48.000 And then I guess it's up to the parent not to put the kid in front of the television to get indoctrinated by the corporation to buy their product.

01:35:54.000 Or stop the food industrial complex from hijacking the government nutrition standards.

01:36:00.000 Again, I'll always go back to some corruption where big corporations get in bed with big business, they buy access, and they force you to do things that you didn't want to do.

01:36:10.000 Obesity didn't come from nowhere.

01:36:12.000 It came from those corporations hijacking that government process. 0.58

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01:36:53.000 We're looking forward to it.

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01:36:56.000 Christina H. says, Band Camp.

01:36:58.000 Ha ha, that's right.

01:37:00.000 Band Camp banned us and Five Times August and Bryson Gray because they're cultists.

01:37:06.000 And they just never responded.

01:37:07.000 Like, this is the craziest thing.

01:37:09.000 They didn't even send you, like, a, you know, oh, you violated our terms of service.

01:37:12.000 They just said nothing.

01:37:14.000 They said, because we didn't break any rules.

01:37:16.000 They're just, the cult is taking over these institutions.

01:37:19.000 So be it.

01:37:20.000 So be it.

01:37:21.000 We're going to use alternatives.

01:37:22.000 Maybe we'll build our own.

01:37:24.000 Head over to TrashHouseRecords.com and pre-order the song, which goes live tonight at midnight!

01:37:31.000 So I'm really excited about that.

01:37:32.000 It's gonna be a lot of fun.

01:37:32.000 You know, in March of 2022, Bandcamp was acquired by Epic Games.

01:37:36.000 So it's actually Epic Games that banned you.

01:37:38.000 Really?

01:37:39.000 Yeah.

01:37:40.000 Epic Games bought Bandcamp?

01:37:41.000 In March 2nd.

01:37:42.000 And Epic Games has woken crazy?

01:37:44.000 Almost, yeah.

01:37:45.000 Wow.

01:37:45.000 Apparently.

01:37:45.000 I don't know.

01:37:46.000 The cult is expanding.

01:37:47.000 They are at war with you.

01:37:50.000 They are gathering resources.

01:37:51.000 They are buying things up.

01:37:54.000 Alright.

01:37:55.000 Alright, what do we got here?

01:37:56.000 Bullseye Ben says, Hey Tim and crew, looks like our YouTube overlords are after y'all again.

01:38:00.000 Keep up the great work.

01:38:01.000 Yeah, it often seems that's the case.

01:38:02.000 Wow, guess who owns 40% of Epic Games?

01:38:06.000 Tencent.

01:38:07.000 Wow.

01:38:10.000 That explains it.

01:38:11.000 That explains it.

01:38:12.000 There's a YouTuber called Moon, actually, who does a video about the ownership of a

01:38:17.000 lot of these major corporations that is actually owned by Tencent.

01:38:19.000 He did a whole video on Tencent if you guys want to go watch it.

01:38:22.000 He's a good YouTuber.

01:38:23.000 Yeah, anyways.

01:38:24.000 That explains it.

01:38:25.000 We got banned from TikTok as well for no reason.

01:38:27.000 Yep.

01:38:28.000 Tencent.

01:38:29.000 Yep.

01:38:30.000 Yeah, see, that's why I'm saying I think China's doing a lot of this stuff.

01:38:32.000 It's intentional.

01:38:33.000 Here we are being like, go America, we gotta push back, and then we get banned on these platforms.

01:38:37.000 They are fighting a culture war, man.

01:38:40.000 And you got people like Biden who are in on it.

01:38:44.000 Noa Yelverton says, Tim won't read this, but I just wanted to say I agree with him that the terms left and right don't work anymore, but I think it's because people can't agree on what left wing and right wing is.

01:39:00.000 It doesn't matter what they agree on what it is, it matters what it is.

01:39:03.000 And the left and the right are tribal team names, that's it.

01:39:08.000 It doesn't mean anything about your policies, it just means which team are you on.

01:39:11.000 So when people are like, liberal and left, it's like, well, all that really means is team name.

01:39:16.000 I think we should call them like, the Screeching Weasels, and we can be the Freedom Faction.

01:39:22.000 I love it, that's good.

01:39:23.000 Those are great team names.

01:39:24.000 The reeing weasels.

01:39:26.000 It's like, cause like, are they left economically?

01:39:29.000 Some of them, maybe.

01:39:30.000 Are they, like, I mean, like, is the Lincoln Project left?

01:39:33.000 You know what I mean?

01:39:35.000 Like, they are of that same faction, but no.

01:39:37.000 I don't know, they are never Trumper.

01:39:39.000 They're authoritarian.

01:39:41.000 Yeah.

01:39:41.000 I think that's the dividing line.

01:39:43.000 Authoritarian or not.

01:39:46.000 Yeah.

01:39:47.000 Collectivist.

01:39:49.000 Cultist.

01:39:49.000 Yeah.

01:39:51.000 Alright.

01:39:52.000 Hamhawk says, Tim, I spent 10 years as a promoter, booker, and talent buyer in my region, put on lots of concerts, and even some small festivals.

01:39:58.000 Would love to be a part of Trash House.

01:40:00.000 Any use for someone like me?

01:40:01.000 Probably, but I don't know if we're at that level yet.

01:40:04.000 So we'll see when we get there.

01:40:06.000 I want Trash House record merch. 1.00

01:40:08.000 We have some already.

01:40:09.000 Yeah, Carter was showing me today, and they look great.

01:40:11.000 Where do you get it?

01:40:13.000 I don't know yet.

01:40:13.000 Teespring, I think.

01:40:14.000 What do you want?

01:40:15.000 I don't know if it's available.

01:40:16.000 When you think about wearing something, what is your first thought?

01:40:19.000 Well, I like big, oversized t-shirts, and then Carter and I were talking about tie-dying them or doing different stuff so they're more custom.

01:40:25.000 Amos Moses says, how far in is Hannah Clare in the Fast and Furious?

01:40:30.000 Furiverse.

01:40:30.000 Sorry, Fast and Furiverse.

01:40:32.000 I'm halfway through, and I like four or five.

01:40:36.000 I'm on five.

01:40:37.000 And I watched like several of them back to back and then just burned out.

01:40:41.000 But I am supposed sorry I know that's sin in this room.

01:40:44.000 I'm supposed to get to nine or 10 before the next movie comes.

01:40:48.000 Oh the next one should be electric vehicles.

01:40:50.000 They're only driving electric.

01:40:51.000 That's what I was wondering.

01:40:52.000 Are there going to be Teslas in it?

01:40:53.000 It's going back to its roots.

01:40:55.000 They went completely in the wrong direction.

01:40:56.000 I'm really disappointed because they had the last one with Charlie's Throne and like, you know, it's the submarine and going to outer space and all that stuff.

01:41:03.000 And now it's like a street race.

01:41:04.000 It's like, okay, I guess.

01:41:05.000 Are you a Fast and the Furious guy?

01:41:07.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:07.000 I haven't seen the new one, though.

01:41:08.000 Which one is your favorite?

01:41:09.000 The new one that's in 10 that just came out?

01:41:11.000 That's not out yet, I don't know.

01:41:12.000 It's not out yet, no.

01:41:13.000 No, but you saw the last one, right?

01:41:14.000 Yeah, that was pretty cool.

01:41:16.000 Yeah.

01:41:17.000 Which one's the best one?

01:41:19.000 The space one.

01:41:20.000 The space one?

01:41:21.000 What do you think is the best one?

01:41:22.000 I don't know.

01:41:23.000 They're all great.

01:41:24.000 And they got John Cena in it now.

01:41:25.000 I just love when the family gets together at the end.

01:41:28.000 That's the best part.

01:41:29.000 Yeah.

01:41:30.000 Whenever I mention I have to do this challenge for Pop Culture Crisis, people are like, it's all about the family.

01:41:35.000 And I love that as an idea.

01:41:37.000 I just don't want to watch the rest of the movie.

01:41:39.000 DC has one of the best established universes in literature, in fiction.

01:41:46.000 Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, all of these great story arcs.

01:41:50.000 The Justice Lords arc, I love it.

01:41:53.000 When Superman becomes evil and becomes a dictator and takes over the planet.

01:41:56.000 There's a couple versions of it.

01:41:58.000 One is like the Joker drugs him and he kills Lois or something like that and then Superman's like, If only, you know, like, you let me kill him or whatever, and then he goes nuts, and then he just starts killing all of the, like, there's great story arcs.

01:42:09.000 And they couldn't make a movie series.

01:42:12.000 They couldn't do it! 1.00

01:42:13.000 It was all garbage. 0.71

01:42:15.000 Then you get some old 2000s movie about street racing, and they've turned it into The Avengers. 0.96

01:42:22.000 You know what?

01:42:23.000 They deserve it.

01:42:24.000 They deserve it.

01:42:24.000 I wanna see Downgate Superpowers.

01:42:26.000 It's a compelling argument, I get that.

01:42:27.000 I just like, I guess I'm not enough of a car person to appreciate it.

01:42:31.000 It's not about cars!

01:42:31.000 Sorry, it's about family.

01:42:32.000 I don't know anything about cars in Outer Space!

01:42:34.000 Sorry, I forgot.

01:42:34.000 It's about family.

01:42:35.000 Did it start off as about cars, though?

01:42:37.000 Sort of.

01:42:37.000 I mean, it's like a central theme, right?

01:42:38.000 There's street racing, and then there are, like, stealing cars.

01:42:42.000 Yeah, the first couple was about street racing.

01:42:43.000 But they talk about, like, engines and, like, the CCs of the engine and all that.

01:42:47.000 See, I'm still in that part of this, where it is, like, there's stuff going on, but it's largely about the car chase scenes.

01:42:52.000 I'm about to transition into the second half.

01:42:54.000 Is the rock there yet?

01:42:56.000 Because then what happens is they get tapped as like a crack team of, you know, special agents to get the job done.

01:43:02.000 And then, you know, The Rock is like, we need your help.

01:43:05.000 And then, you know, then you got Shaw, who's like this bad guy, Jason Statham, but then he becomes a good guy or whatever, and then his sister or something, and Charlie's Throne.

01:43:13.000 Like they're getting all these celebrities in it.

01:43:15.000 It's like better than the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

01:43:18.000 I want Transformer crossover or superpowers?

01:43:21.000 Let's read some more superchats.

01:43:22.000 I just think that like one blonde guy and that girl should just get married by now. 0.99

01:43:25.000 Like that's what's bothering me.

01:43:26.000 They need to commit.

01:43:27.000 Well, it's hard to do when you're out.

01:43:30.000 It's about family.

01:43:31.000 Yeah, then put a ring on it.

01:43:32.000 That's the point.

01:43:33.000 Let's make some moves here.

01:43:34.000 Ghostface says Ian rolled a negative one with that take on Obama.

01:43:38.000 Which one? 0.90

01:43:39.000 When you were like, Obama should be allowed to murder children because he was the president. 0.99

01:43:43.000 Oh, God. 0.66

01:43:44.000 I just don't want to start persecuting and arresting former presidents.

01:43:48.000 I think you mentioned that earlier too, Matt.

01:43:49.000 It just starts a cycle of... Yeah, but I think the cycle is getting worse because we don't do it.

01:43:55.000 They have no fear.

01:43:56.000 They're like, when I get in, I can do whatever I want and get away with it.

01:43:59.000 And like, they're going after Trump because he's accused of paying a woman not to talk about having sex.

01:44:04.000 That's it! 0.72

01:44:06.000 By the way, it shouldn't be a president.

01:44:08.000 It should be freaking Congress, which has the responsibility of declaring war and has the responsibility for holding the executive branch in check. 1.00

01:44:17.000 It should be done that way, but they will never do it.

01:44:19.000 And Ian, ThatOneGamer says Anwar was killed September 30th, 2011.

01:44:23.000 Abdulrahman was killed October 14th, 2011.

01:44:26.000 Anwar was already dead for almost a month.

01:44:28.000 Wow.

01:44:29.000 So it wasn't even sending his dad a message.

01:44:30.000 No, it was just killing the family.

01:44:32.000 I appreciate the super chat with the negative one, because it's a it's a hard thing to talk about, like whether a president should have the ability to just drone strike random people around the around the earth.

01:44:41.000 That's kind of.

01:44:42.000 Yep.

01:44:42.000 We actually have been going longer.

01:44:43.000 I'm really feeling the member segment after IRL, especially with the call-in questions.

01:44:46.000 I was wondering if y'all could go a little bit longer or maybe take calls off the bat.

01:44:51.000 We actually have been going longer.

01:44:53.000 They've been going about 10 minutes longer with the call-ins, so we've been splitting

01:44:56.000 20 minutes of uncensored show, 20 minutes of talk.

01:45:02.000 There's a lot of people who just want the cussing and the jokes and the serious topics.

01:45:07.000 And then I think a lot of people are really big into the Collins.

01:45:11.000 I think the Collins may be the best value that we can bring to you guys as members.

01:45:18.000 I think that takes the members-only segment to a whole new level of community building, of value, opportunity and all that.

01:45:26.000 I'm really excited for it.

01:45:27.000 Again, Ian's idea, very good idea.

01:45:28.000 Oh my gosh, I love it.

01:45:30.000 We could technically have a call going the entire night, because we go off and start riffing while you're on the call.

01:45:35.000 There's a lag.

01:45:37.000 For the people who are listening, it's hard to talk back and forth.

01:45:41.000 Well, we gotta figure that out.

01:45:43.000 Radio shows have call-in producers who will be like, hey, you're on now, go.

01:45:47.000 Whereas, we don't.

01:45:48.000 So what happens is when someone calls in, they don't know when to talk because the show has a delay.

01:45:53.000 Plus, we're going through the internet.

01:45:55.000 They're using a phone network, so it's a lot easier for them.

01:45:59.000 Alright!

01:46:00.000 OMG Puppy says white phosphorus and depleted uranium are both war crimes.

01:46:04.000 Done by NATO in Belgrade and Iraq, even NATO troops in Serbia got cancer from the uranium dust. 0.91

01:46:09.000 Now Britain's sending depleted uranium to Ukraine.

01:46:11.000 Yeah, we're heading that way, baby.

01:46:14.000 It's gonna get bad.

01:46:16.000 Pat Meadows says Obama executed an American citizen who was a minor.

01:46:21.000 That he did!

01:46:23.000 Yup.

01:46:24.000 Barack Obama, vote for me! 0.95

01:46:25.000 Well, kids, gotta blow him up. 0.95

01:46:28.000 Too many of them.

01:46:28.000 Are you auditioning for Freedom Tunes right now?

01:46:30.000 No, that actually was Seamus' joke.

01:46:32.000 You're hired. 0.98

01:46:32.000 Gotta blow him up. 0.98

01:46:33.000 Too many of them. 0.74

01:46:34.000 Seamus never made that cartoon, though.

01:46:35.000 He's gotta do it.

01:46:36.000 Seamus?

01:46:38.000 Where is he at?

01:46:39.000 Seamus, get over here. 0.95

01:46:40.000 Yeah, I know.

01:46:40.000 He's like, we keep telling him to come, and then he's just like, meh.

01:46:43.000 He's like, I don't wanna come.

01:46:43.000 The weather's nice now, Seamus.

01:46:45.000 You can come back.

01:46:46.000 BPACE says, Tim, you're wanting the president to be treated like every other citizen.

01:46:51.000 That sounds very libertarian.

01:46:53.000 Are you and Ian open to supporting libertarianism?

01:46:55.000 If so, why haven't you?

01:46:57.000 I'd like your thoughts.

01:46:58.000 The Mises Caucus guys are great.

01:47:00.000 We've been talking all day about Dave Smith.

01:47:04.000 I would love to see... Do you know if he's going to announce he's running or whatever?

01:47:08.000 I'm waiting.

01:47:10.000 There's actually legal reasons not to.

01:47:12.000 I have no idea if he's going to run or not, but once you announce, then you have to raise hard dollars and it's a nightmare.

01:47:17.000 Michael Malice, press secretary.

01:47:20.000 I'm so excited.

01:47:21.000 I'm a huge advocate of libertarianism in general.

01:47:23.000 I get concerned about it as a political party because I find interventionism is valuable a lot of times.

01:47:29.000 A lot of times this whole like, hands off, if we ignore it, it'll go away problem, the kind of thing I don't get down with.

01:47:34.000 I am speaking May 13th with the TakeHumanActionTour.com.

01:47:39.000 It's the Mises Caucus. 0.93

01:47:40.000 I believe it's Mises Caucus putting it on. 0.98

01:47:41.000 And that's in Oakland.

01:47:43.000 And I think we, I would love to, I'm not sure what the deal is, but do some kind of debate slash forum.

01:47:50.000 How do you guys feel about Justin Amash?

01:47:52.000 like announces and they're in full swing.

01:47:54.000 I'm assuming it's gonna be Dave Smith.

01:47:55.000 We don't know because he hasn't announced it or whatever.

01:47:57.000 It may be Dave Smith with Maj Touré as VP, which is just, it's amazing.

01:48:02.000 And Michael Maus is a press secretary.

01:48:03.000 I just would love to do a sit down big show, get an audience to come in,

01:48:07.000 get a big venue and do something.

01:48:09.000 Maybe set up some kind of debate or something.

01:48:12.000 I think it'd be fantastic.

01:48:14.000 How do you guys feel about Justin Amash?

01:48:15.000 Because there's still some question about whether or not he runs.

01:48:18.000 I don't know.

01:48:19.000 I don't know much about him.

01:48:20.000 I've heard good things, but I think he's a, I'm pretty sure he had a bad track record during the Trump administration, but I have to look into it because I'm willing to review these things.

01:48:31.000 It's been a really long time.

01:48:32.000 I haven't followed too much.

01:48:33.000 I've had a bunch of people, because he switched from Republican to Libertarian, so I've had Libertarian people tell me that it's actually good and to take a look.

01:48:40.000 But the only thing I really remember from his tenure was that he was like, never Trumper.

01:48:46.000 And that was his bet.

01:48:46.000 Oh, the Republican Party is bad and Trump, so I quit.

01:48:48.000 And it's like, well, now look where we are.

01:48:49.000 That's real great leadership.

01:48:52.000 But I like Dave Smith, and Dave Smith's been, you know, against Trump for a long time, but I can respect someone who's got that position, so, you know, I'm willing to take a look into Amash's arguments.

01:49:00.000 I think Justin was one of the first to adopt minds when we built the website.

01:49:05.000 He was, like, on it early.

01:49:06.000 I think so.

01:49:07.000 He was in something very early where I realized he was, like, red-pilled and awake as to what was going on, like, in 2011 or 2013 or something.

01:49:14.000 I'd love to interview him and talk to him.

01:49:16.000 He'd be interesting to have on, and he was absolutely anti-Trump as a member of Congress, but he has a long career before that, so if that one thing is a deal killer for you, it's worth looking at what he's willing to do.

01:49:30.000 Yeah, it's not.

01:49:31.000 You know, like, Dave Smith rags on Trump all the time, and I think Dave Smith's great.

01:49:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:49:35.000 Like, Luke rags on Trump all the time.

01:49:38.000 I don't care if people aren't mad about Trump.

01:49:39.000 I just care that they have real arguments behind why they're mad about Trump.

01:49:42.000 And so, Dave, we had a discussion about foreign policy and all that stuff, and he's right about a lot of it, and I'm like, I can respect that, absolutely.

01:49:48.000 I just have a slightly different opinion.

01:49:50.000 Like, if we got a leftist to come in here, like, we're having Destiny on the show next week, and I'm a big fan, I think he's a good dude.

01:49:57.000 I disagree with him on stuff.

01:49:58.000 And I think he's good at what he does.

01:49:59.000 He makes good arguments, but I think, you know, I think he's good at arguing, he's good at debating.

01:50:04.000 I disagree.

01:50:05.000 And I think what a lot of people don't understand is, like, If he comes in here and he's like, well, don't you think X, Y, and Z about transgender surgeries?

01:50:11.000 And I'll be like, I don't.

01:50:12.000 And he'll be like, well, what about this and that?

01:50:14.000 Well, I guess we just disagree on that, and that's fine.

01:50:16.000 Like, we're allowed to disagree.

01:50:17.000 As long as you have an argument and a reasoning behind it, like, I'll argue with you.

01:50:20.000 And if you say something like, deep within my soul, I personally feel abortion should be legal. 0.57

01:50:24.000 I'll be like, well, how do you argue?

01:50:26.000 There's no argument.

01:50:27.000 Someone just says, I feel like, based on my morals and stuff.

01:50:31.000 It's like, well, okay.

01:50:32.000 Yeah, rather than trying to come out as a victor in the debate, the debate itself is the victory, in my opinion.

01:50:37.000 The conversation, the pleasant, you know, that's the key.

01:50:39.000 Yeah, if, like, the end result is... Like, we had a lot on the show, and he was talking about why he's in favor of intervention and stuff.

01:50:46.000 He's saying, because we don't want a multipolar world, we want the U.S.

01:50:49.000 to be on top so that it prevents war and, you know, and these horrible things.

01:50:54.000 So the U.S.

01:50:54.000 doing blah, blah, blah, and I don't want to, you know, Overstate what he was saying because I don't want to put wrong words in his mouth.

01:51:00.000 But I'm like, I got mad.

01:51:02.000 Like, I was yelling at him.

01:51:03.000 I was pissed off. 0.99

01:51:04.000 I was like, this is ridiculous. 0.99

01:51:05.000 Like, foreign policy of this country, blah, blah, blah. 0.83

01:51:07.000 But, you know, in the end, like, he's been on the show several times.

01:51:10.000 He reports for us on the ground.

01:51:11.000 He's allowed to have that opinion.

01:51:13.000 And he has reasons behind them, he's explained them in great detail, and I've argued with him and I got really angry, but, like, that's fine.

01:51:19.000 Well, you want the diversity of thought.

01:51:20.000 Like, if he is reasonable and well-informed, even if you don't agree with him, it's better to have him talking than to just have people saying, like, oh, yeah, I agree with you.

01:51:28.000 He's such a neocon.

01:51:29.000 I know.

01:51:29.000 He's a Bolton bro with his mustache.

01:51:30.000 He's a Bolton bro with his mustache.

01:51:32.000 Yeah.

01:51:32.000 I know what he's saying.

01:51:34.000 I hear you a lot, even if no one else does.

01:51:38.000 Yeah, he's a Bolton bro.

01:51:39.000 He got the mustache.

01:51:40.000 Oh my gosh.

01:51:41.000 His mustache is off the chair.

01:51:42.000 Surge, you want to defend mustaches?

01:51:43.000 We came up with that, Elad.

01:51:45.000 You know we came up with that.

01:51:46.000 Bolton bros?

01:51:47.000 I think that was technically Surge.

01:51:48.000 It wasn't even really serious.

01:51:50.000 I'm sorry, you also have a mustache.

01:51:52.000 Matt, are you in favor of John Bolton?

01:51:54.000 I'm not team Bolton.

01:51:58.000 Every man in this room has a mustache.

01:51:59.000 I'm reporting live from Bolton bro headquarters.

01:52:03.000 The only redeeming thing about Bolton is his mustache.

01:52:06.000 His mustache is so awesome. 0.75

01:52:07.000 Everything else is morally repugnant.

01:52:09.000 Do you think he smokes pipes?

01:52:11.000 It's a little brown.

01:52:13.000 He just sort of looks like a walrus to me.

01:52:15.000 His voice was more manly.

01:52:20.000 Marvin Carlson says depleted uranium is toxic, mostly as a heavy metal like cadmium.

01:52:25.000 Tungsten can also be used instead of depleted uranium.

01:52:27.000 Uranium is easier to machine and less expensive than tungsten.

01:52:30.000 We use depleted uranium nose weights in 727s.

01:52:34.000 Wow.

01:52:34.000 Interesting.

01:52:35.000 Infernal Saxon says depleted uranium has a self-sharpening property.

01:52:38.000 Yeah!

01:52:39.000 And when it's searing hot, so when it penetrates the tank, it ignites gases inside and then causes it to become an inferno.

01:52:46.000 Jeez.

01:52:47.000 Yup.

01:52:49.000 All right.

01:52:50.000 Mike Gibson says, I was in the Army Signal Corps in the 90s.

01:52:53.000 Outstanding orders if we had to abandon our equipment, namely two grenades in the switch.

01:52:58.000 Bernal documentation.

01:53:00.000 Someone ordered the troops to leave that equipment intact.

01:53:02.000 Whoa.

01:53:03.000 That's, yeah, man.

01:53:04.000 So in the switch, I imagine that means like in a vulnerable position within the tank or what in the in the thing.

01:53:09.000 I don't know what that term means, but you definitely use two grenades to blow it up.

01:53:12.000 Make sure that can't be used again.

01:53:14.000 I've also heard they use thermite, which is a military-grade incendiary that you can use to melt steel.

01:53:20.000 Beams.

01:53:21.000 Jeffrey Grejcik says, Ian is the modern day Diogenes.

01:53:25.000 He practiced being ridiculed by walking backwards into a theater exit while others were exiting.

01:53:30.000 Keep asking the hard questions regardless of what others say about you.

01:53:33.000 That's awesome.

01:53:34.000 He's Diogenes the Cynic. 0.85

01:53:36.000 Is that what it is?

01:53:37.000 Yeah.

01:53:38.000 A Greek philosopher, one of the founders of cynicism. 1.00

01:53:39.000 I like it.

01:53:40.000 Yeah, I humiliated myself on purpose.

01:53:43.000 I didn't realize that's what I was doing, but after it started to happen, I realized it kind of gave me strength of character.

01:53:49.000 Clef the Misfit says, how the hell can you say DeSantis is weak when he smacked down Biden, Fauci, Disney, Teachers' Unions, and the Florida GOP establishment, taking near king-like control of the state?

01:53:59.000 We need Luke back to set you straight, Tim.

01:54:01.000 I will explain.

01:54:02.000 Because I've already pointed out, policy-wise, he hits the nail on the head with the hammer.

01:54:05.000 But in terms of his character, his personality, that's what I'm talking about.

01:54:12.000 Trump didn't have the policy, like, get rid of Fauci, don't do the lockdowns.

01:54:16.000 Policy?

01:54:16.000 Fail.

01:54:17.000 But he has the screw you, you can't tell me what to do.

01:54:20.000 He had good policy, like securing our borders, bringing jobs back, and foreign policy was exquisite.

01:54:26.000 I don't necessarily know what DeSantis will do on foreign policy.

01:54:28.000 There are fears that he might go neocon.

01:54:31.000 I don't know if that's fair to say because we just don't know.

01:54:33.000 My point is this.

01:54:35.000 Ron is getting it done on paper, but then when he's standing in front of the cameras, you know, Milo Yiannopoulos put it well.

01:54:41.000 I don't know if you saw his comment.

01:54:42.000 He said he has the charisma of something moist, like when you're reaching for something and accidentally touch a wet sponge.

01:54:49.000 Like, it was very well put.

01:54:51.000 It's funny.

01:54:52.000 Like, DeSantis doesn't have the same kind of gravitas as Trump.

01:54:56.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:54:57.000 The strength of character, of personality.

01:55:00.000 I think policy-wise, he's getting it done perfectly.

01:55:04.000 So that's why I'm saying, like, what do we need more of, you know?

01:55:07.000 All right, where we at?

01:55:09.000 Convincing Reality says, not everything everyone does revolves around Trump.

01:55:13.000 That's blinkered.

01:55:14.000 DeSantis has actually made moves in his state, hasn't declared himself for the presidency, and he isn't Trump's campaign manager.

01:55:21.000 Yeah, I know, I like DeSantis, you know, we'll see what happens.

01:55:24.000 If he ends up winning, I'll vote for him.

01:55:27.000 Sparky says DeSantis just changed his mind on Piers Morgan and is now pro-Ukraine war.

01:55:31.000 I saw that too.

01:55:32.000 You see?

01:55:32.000 That's what we're worried about.

01:55:33.000 What did he say?

01:55:34.000 Why he was pro-Ukraine?

01:55:35.000 I don't know.

01:55:35.000 You want to look it up?

01:55:36.000 Because he was saying like we shouldn't be involved and then the media attacked him for it and then he came back like, oh, they're misinterpreting what I'm saying or something like that.

01:55:44.000 Michelle Corley says DeSantis sold out to rhinos.

01:55:47.000 He has ruined his career.

01:55:48.000 President Trump is the one.

01:55:49.000 I like Trump.

01:55:52.000 I'm just saying, like, what if we had four years of Trump, then we had eight years of DeSantis?

01:55:54.000 Maybe that would be cool.

01:55:55.000 It just seems impractical that we get three consecutive Republican terms.

01:55:59.000 For sure.

01:56:00.000 But, like I said, I don't think Trump will run again after this.

01:56:04.000 You have to take age into account.

01:56:05.000 If you think potentially he's good, maybe this is his term, and DeSantis has a future.

01:56:10.000 He's still really young.

01:56:11.000 Sparky says DeSantis was anti-Ukraine war on Tucker's questionnaire, but just changed to pro-Ukraine war on Piers Morgan.

01:56:17.000 Hm.

01:56:18.000 What I'm reading about is he referred to it as a territorial dispute, and then now he's maybe walking that, that he's walking back that characterization.

01:56:26.000 So in the beginning it sounds like he saw it, kind of like I do, which is that the Russian Federation is attempting to colonize Crimea and take roads into Sevastopol, the Donbass, because they want that trade port in the Mediterranean, territorial.

01:56:39.000 It's not a genocide.

01:56:40.000 None of this, like, we're going to kill those people kind of thing.

01:56:42.000 They want trade.

01:56:44.000 That's what it looks like.

01:56:45.000 But maybe he's walked that back a little deeper.

01:56:47.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:56:48.000 says, It's now or we are all dead.

01:56:50.000 I can't help but agree with that statement.

01:56:52.000 The downward spiral is real and it's here. 0.99

01:56:54.000 Damn it, Ian. 0.99

01:56:55.000 Decisions, decisions. 1.00

01:56:55.000 Yeah, dawg, but don't. 1.00

01:56:56.000 I do not like using fear as a motivation.

01:56:58.000 It's not like, do it or else. 0.99

01:57:00.000 Use this because that one sucks. 1.00

01:57:01.000 I don't like that crap. 1.00

01:57:02.000 But it is a desperate. 0.99

01:57:03.000 And we need to work together fast and accurately now.

01:57:06.000 Tyler Bratton says, due to federal employee protections, the president did not have the power to fire Fauci.

01:57:12.000 Who did we have on?

01:57:13.000 We had someone on who said that wasn't true.

01:57:15.000 I think it was Matt Gaetz, actually.

01:57:17.000 Someone said that you don't fire them, you isolate, and then a month later, they're gone.

01:57:23.000 It's like, you can fire them, it can be done.

01:57:25.000 Yeah, it was Gaetz.

01:57:26.000 It was Gaetz?

01:57:27.000 It was Matt Gaetz, yeah.

01:57:28.000 Yeah, like, you can take any federal employee and then completely isolate them from every position, and then within a month, they're terminated.

01:57:35.000 You could certainly marginalize him.

01:57:37.000 Part of the problem is that we gave him the microphone and it was the Fauci show.

01:57:41.000 Oh, when Trump's standing behind him?

01:57:43.000 I don't know what Trump was thinking.

01:57:46.000 Or maybe he wasn't at all.

01:57:48.000 Addison Miller says, I live in Alaska and we've been fighting for years to expand development.

01:57:52.000 The problem is most of the land is owned by the Fed or is a national park.

01:57:57.000 I think we got to invade and occupy Alaska.

01:58:00.000 That was Daniel Turner and Jack Posobiec talked about that.

01:58:02.000 Occupy Alaska!

01:58:04.000 It's like it's American territory.

01:58:06.000 It's massive.

01:58:06.000 It's a third the size of the United States.

01:58:08.000 And we're just not doing anything with it.

01:58:10.000 Like there's tons of opportunity up there.

01:58:12.000 I keep thinking about fusion.

01:58:13.000 And I wanted to ask you about it, Matt, because you've talked a lot about energy independence.

01:58:17.000 It's a little bit off topic.

01:58:18.000 We only have a few minutes left.

01:58:19.000 But do you think it's like a path that we should head towards?

01:58:21.000 It's too dangerous for people to have that?

01:58:23.000 Um, I don't know, but I would love to have an environment where that sort of entrepreneurial innovation was allowed to happen and, and let science and entrepreneurs figure that stuff out.

01:58:36.000 Maybe Elon can figure it out.

01:58:38.000 Dreadmac says, Tim, I'm still in the PeeWee membership level and want to upgrade without canceling and resubscribing.

01:58:44.000 Please take my money.

01:58:45.000 Um, yes.

01:58:48.000 Uh, I think, I think the issue is that we have instructions on how to do that in the discord.

01:58:54.000 So we'll make sure that's in the standard lounge for any member to hang out to see the pin instructions.

01:59:00.000 Let's make sure we can do that.

01:59:01.000 So here's what we're doing.

01:59:03.000 We're doing two things with that.

01:59:05.000 Because I mentioned, like, the purpose of the $25 level to get access to the VIP room, or six months, is because we don't want to make people spend more money to get access, but we also need a way to control for bad actors who are going to try and come in and screw things up and get us banned.

01:59:19.000 And that's a reality no matter what we do, but for the voice chat, we have to be a bit more strict.

01:59:23.000 But what we're going to do is we're going to create what we're calling, I guess, like the Silver Lounge, which is if you pay $25, not only do you get access to the VIP chat room for Collins, but you will get a special $25 level Because otherwise it's just like, what are you really getting for the money other than, you know, and then after six months you can reduce your membership now that you're, you know, you've passed that gate or whatever.

01:59:43.000 Then with the Elite Club, this is the more costly social club element we're building out.

01:59:49.000 It's a hundred bucks a month for this room, but we're giving people access to testing out apps and games.

01:59:55.000 Early access to the stuff we're working on.

01:59:56.000 So you're basically, like, in the club.

01:59:59.000 So when we are, like, working on song stuff, like, we maybe will, like, here's a part of a new song we're working on.

02:00:04.000 You'll get direct access to all the internal stuff we're working on, like, top secret stuff.

02:00:08.000 And that one is a combination of we want to build, like, a social club and a physical space that comes with the coffee shop we're building.

02:00:13.000 And we also need to be able to trust a certain level of trust that, like, hey, if we share with you, like, something you don't You know, leak it, or whatever.

02:00:22.000 Like, here's a new song we're working on, and all of a sudden it ends up on the internet, or whatever.

02:00:25.000 Yeah, because tonight I want to play Bright Eyes on the after show, but it's just a little premature, and it's coming out at midnight.

02:00:32.000 Maybe it'd be cool to show... We'll play it for the Elite Discord.

02:00:36.000 We'll put it in there somehow or something.

02:00:38.000 The Elite members will get to listen to the song tonight.

02:00:40.000 Alright everybody, if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and become a member by going to TimCast.com, clicking join us, getting on the Discord, and then we're gonna have that members-only uncensored show coming up in about 10 minutes, where we will take your calls.

02:00:55.000 Should be a lot of fun.

02:00:56.000 You can follow the show at Timcast IRL.

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02:01:01.000 And, um, what else did I have to say?

02:01:03.000 Is that everything?

02:01:03.000 Oh yeah.

02:01:04.000 Trashhouserecords.com.

02:01:05.000 Pre-order the song.

02:01:06.000 It's coming out at midnight.

02:01:08.000 And so we need to do a big push all next week.

02:01:11.000 Because we're going to try and get on Billboard again.

02:01:12.000 Four in a row.

02:01:13.000 Maybe we don't...

02:01:14.000 But the last three songs have all got on Billboard, so we're three for three.

02:01:18.000 It'll be awesome if we're four for four and we keep rubbing their faces in it.

02:01:20.000 Because when we send out emails being like, hey, new song was released, we actually got some of these corporate press outlets saying, F you. 0.99

02:01:27.000 Like, literally, like, screw you, F off. 0.99

02:01:29.000 So, we'll see. 0.99

02:01:31.000 Matt, you want to shout anything out?

02:01:32.000 Sure, I'm going to shout out my friend Matt Battagli, who's our executive producer.

02:01:37.000 He has a new book out, a comic book, House on Fire.

02:01:40.000 It's a dystopian story about this unbelievable world where the government tells you that you can't leave your neighborhood, that they make it very difficult to find the medicine that your wife needs, and otherwise living in this unbelievable dystopian future that sounds a lot like America today.

02:01:57.000 And you can find this at your favorite shop and you can also find this on the big guys like Amazon.

02:02:04.000 Go to freethepeople.org if you want to check out our videos and we also have some cool merch there as well.

02:02:10.000 Right on.

02:02:11.000 I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.

02:02:12.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

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02:02:18.000 It's great.

02:02:19.000 You can see a lot of work from our journalists, all of it really, and including a review of House on Fire by Chris Burtman, who is an awesome member of our news team.

02:02:26.000 So go there, follow them.

02:02:28.000 If you want to follow me personally, you can find me on Instagram at hannahclare.b and on Twitter at hcbrimlow.

02:02:34.000 Chris Burtman, also an excellent actor, by the way.

02:02:37.000 Nice job, Chris, on the Cast Castle.

02:02:39.000 I like your work.

02:02:39.000 Matt, always a pleasure, man.

02:02:41.000 Great stuff.

02:02:41.000 House on Fire.

02:02:42.000 Check it out.

02:02:43.000 And I wanted just this in from Carter Banks.

02:02:45.000 If you guys want to get merch tonight, Trash House Records, it is TrashHouseRecords.Creator-Spring.com.

02:02:54.000 That's TrashHouseRecords.Creator-Spring.com.

02:02:57.000 You can rewind the video if you need the link.

02:02:58.000 And we're definitely getting to the point now where we want to expand into other artists doing more music than just like the four songs we've put out.

02:03:06.000 We've put out, this is our third song put out through Trash House, Will of the People was put out a couple years ago.

02:03:11.000 Those first three songs, Will of the People and the two we put out did really well on Billboard.

02:03:15.000 Hopefully this next one does with your help, but then we can actually start finding more music and, you know.

02:03:21.000 Yeah, Landon Starbuck last night played some of her music for us.

02:03:24.000 It was incredible.

02:03:25.000 Her voice is amazing.

02:03:26.000 It was beautiful.

02:03:28.000 We will do that and we will do that tonight at TimCast.com.

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