Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump Lawyer PLEADS GUILTY, Jenna Ellis Latest To FLIP On Trump w-Kash Patel

00:00:00.000 Bye.

00:00:14.000 Jenna Ellis raised somewhere over $200,000 to fight these charges, and is receiving criticism for, in the end, just accepting a plea deal, and then apologizing to the court, saying she regretted everything she did, and one by one, the dominoes fall.

00:00:31.000 I have trouble understanding how any of these people could have taken the decisions they've had during 2020 and then just flip in the way they did.

00:00:40.000 But this is going to be somewhat troublesome for Donald Trump.

00:00:43.000 However, he's also filing to have one of the January 6th cases dismissed on double jeopardy grounds, which is really, really interesting as well.

00:00:51.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:00:52.000 Plus, of course, you know, there's like World War 3 stuff happening.

00:00:54.000 Iran is once again attacking U.S. 0.99

00:00:56.000 targets.

00:00:56.000 The U.S.

00:00:57.000 is ramping up its forces in the Mediterranean.

00:00:59.000 And there's this really funny video going around where this Gen Z guy, it's like he's trying to say he won't be drafted, but then it's basically him begging not to be drafted.

00:01:10.000 Like, you want me to fight for this country?

00:01:11.000 I don't want I don't want to do it.

00:01:13.000 And it's like, oh boy, look, I like very few Gen Z relatively voted, but the ones that did overwhelmingly vote 0.96

00:01:18.000 for Democrats.

00:01:19.000 So, hey, this is Biden country, baby.

00:01:21.000 At the very least, if you didn't vote for the guy, well, I'm sorry it's happening to you.

00:01:25.000 And this is why you got to vote for Donald Trump.

00:01:27.000 But let's, we'll talk about that.

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00:02:22.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Kash Patel.

00:02:25.000 Hey, it's great to be back with you.

00:02:27.000 Just coming off the heels of my book launch, Yes, Selfish Blood, Government Gangsters.

00:02:32.000 The Biden administration spent 10 months trying to block its release.

00:02:35.000 Had to go to federal court and sue to get it out.

00:02:37.000 Wow.

00:02:37.000 You gotta understand what's in there.

00:02:39.000 Donald Trump launched it on Truth Social a couple weeks ago.

00:02:41.000 Already a bestseller.

00:02:42.000 He calls it the roadmap and blueprint for 2024.

00:02:45.000 Basically, it's how you destroy the deep state.

00:02:47.000 And I name every government gangster I ever encountered by name and title.

00:02:51.000 And I also put the government receipts in there.

00:02:52.000 The Biden administration came back and said, national security secrets can't go to print.

00:02:56.000 They redacted less than 0.05% of my book at the end of the day.

00:03:00.000 0.05.

00:03:00.000 0.05?

00:03:00.000 The same seven words eight times over.

00:03:05.000 Really?

00:03:06.000 It's hilarious.

00:03:07.000 Can you not say the words?

00:03:08.000 I can after the show.

00:03:09.000 It's kind of funny, but like, you know, it's hilarious.

00:03:11.000 But that's the whole thing, you know, and so go to governmentgangsters.com, get your signed copy today.

00:03:16.000 Help me crush the deep state.

00:03:17.000 Right on.

00:03:18.000 We'll get it to the top.

00:03:18.000 Yeah, everybody buy it.

00:03:19.000 It's on Amazon.

00:03:20.000 It's on Amazon.

00:03:20.000 We'll get it to number one.

00:03:21.000 Amazon, Target, all that stuff.

00:03:22.000 Yeah, really great.

00:03:23.000 Thanks for hanging out, man.

00:03:24.000 It should be a blast.

00:03:25.000 We got Hannah Clare hanging out. 0.92

00:03:26.000 Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimel.

00:03:26.000 Yeah.

00:03:27.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:03:29.000 That's been a fantastic book recommendation.

00:03:32.000 If the Biden administration doesn't want you to read it, you should buy it immediately.

00:03:34.000 I think so.

00:03:35.000 Yeah.

00:03:36.000 I'm with TimCast News and Brett's here also.

00:03:38.000 Hello.

00:03:38.000 Yes.

00:03:39.000 I am Brett Dasvick.

00:03:40.000 I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday, 3 p.m.

00:03:43.000 Eastern Standard Time right here on YouTube.

00:03:46.000 And I am Serge.com.

00:03:48.000 I just got a Truth Social account.

00:03:50.000 Three new Truth Social users.

00:03:50.000 Boom!

00:03:52.000 Let's go.

00:03:53.000 Bring it in line right now.

00:03:55.000 It's about to be Donkey Kong on there.

00:03:57.000 Donald Trump is going bananas on Truth Social and it's just going to get better.

00:04:01.000 Time to retruth stuff.

00:04:03.000 I can't wait to do some retruthing.

00:04:04.000 That doesn't sound like propaganda at all.

00:04:07.000 Let's jump into this first story from the New York Times.

00:04:10.000 Jenna Ellis, former Trump lawyer, pleads guilty in Georgia election case.

00:04:15.000 Three lawyers indebted with Trump for trying to, uh, three lawyers indebted with Donald Trump for

00:04:19.000 trying to overturn the 2020 election results will now cooperate with prosecutors in the

00:04:23.000 racketeering case. I believe this makes four guilty pleas.

00:04:27.000 And, uh, Sidney Powell got six years in, uh, probation. And then the other three got five

00:04:31.000 years. Jenna Ellis gets, got five years.

00:04:33.000 I believe she also got 100 hours of community service and, uh, and pay a fine.

00:04:38.000 We have the video here.

00:04:39.000 I'm gonna play it for you.

00:04:41.000 Let's, uh, yeah, we're gonna listen to what she had to say.

00:04:43.000 Audio's good?

00:04:45.000 Yep.

00:04:46.000 Thank you, your honor, for the opportunity to address the court.

00:04:53.000 As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously.

00:04:58.000 I'm sorry, I can't.

00:04:59.000 And I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings.

00:05:05.000 In the wake of the 2020 presidential election, I believed that challenging the results on behalf of President Trump should be pursued in a just and legal way.

00:05:15.000 I endeavored to represent my client to the best of my ability.

00:05:18.000 I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than I, to provide me with true and reliable information, especially since my role involved speaking to the media and to legislators in various states.

00:05:31.000 What I did not do, but should have done, Your Honor, was to make sure that the facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were in fact true.

00:05:39.000 In the frenetic pace of attempting to raise challenges to the election in several states, including Georgia, I failed to do my due diligence.

00:05:47.000 I believe in and I value election integrity.

00:05:50.000 If I knew then what I know now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges.

00:05:56.000 I look back on this whole experience with deep remorse.

00:05:59.000 For those failures of mine, your honor, I have taken responsibility already before the Colorado bar who censured me.

00:06:05.000 And I now take responsibility before this court and apologize to the people.

00:06:10.000 So, uh, I, I hope, I hope several other states file criminal charges against her and she goes to prison for a very, very long time.

00:06:19.000 Did you hear what she said?

00:06:21.000 She, she confessed to trying to overturn an election, a duly elected Joe Biden.

00:06:27.000 She confessed to doing it.

00:06:28.000 No, in all seriousness, I think it's fair to say she's opened the door legally by stating that in Georgia and many other states, she did this.

00:06:36.000 She did this thing.

00:06:37.000 And if there are other states in which Democrats have any kind of legal capability, they could Charge her as well. 0.98

00:06:46.000 And then make her go through it all over again.

00:06:48.000 The biggest mistake all of these people are making, in my opinion, is taking the plea deals.

00:06:54.000 I've heard a lot of people say, the case against these individuals in Georgia is so weak that the prosecutors didn't want to go to trial.

00:07:00.000 And I'm like, then you go to trial.

00:07:02.000 Then you say, that's the reason to do that.

00:07:04.000 Yeah, this shows she was terrified.

00:07:07.000 And so I'll say this.

00:07:08.000 Just on the surface, if it is true that she and many others knowingly lied to commit this crime, then I think they're getting off easy.

00:07:18.000 Otherwise, she genuinely believed she was doing her constitutional duty in providing a legal service to an individual who is seeking a redress of grievances, and now she is betraying not just that individual, but this country.

00:07:32.000 So, in that case, lock her up. 0.72

00:07:34.000 She'll get no defense from me.

00:07:34.000 See if I care.

00:07:36.000 And not to mention, and we'll get into it in a little bit, but like the hundreds of thousands of dollars she raised, a lot of people are really upset about this.

00:07:42.000 You know, what does it mean to give someone's legal defense?

00:07:45.000 She paid her lawyers with the money.

00:07:46.000 Does it mean she's taking it all the way?

00:07:48.000 Some people were saying she should take a plea agreement, but I'm curious what you think, man.

00:07:51.000 I mean, you worked in the administration.

00:07:52.000 Yeah, look, I was a prosecutor, I was a public defender.

00:07:56.000 The interesting thing about this entire case, I mean, put aside the fact that I don't think there's a basis to bring it, but let's put that on pause for a second.

00:08:03.000 And the first three guys out of the gate that flipped are lawyers.

00:08:07.000 And what does that mean?

00:08:07.000 What did they actually do?

00:08:10.000 Having been in the Trump administration and around the boss and literally talking to him every week, these guys didn't really do anything.

00:08:17.000 So, okay, what are they going to say?

00:08:20.000 Are they going to break attorney-client privilege, which they don't hold, President Trump holds, and say, and commit a felony and get disbarred and get prosecuted just to say Donald Trump is guilty of X, Y, or Z? 0.99

00:08:33.000 And they're not stupid people. 0.96

00:08:35.000 I think the reason they pled guilty is they know the crimes are bogus, but they came in there with so many slews of felonies. 0.98

00:08:41.000 So it's like, oh, you're looking at 85 years.

00:08:43.000 We'll get you on one. 0.99

00:08:44.000 And this jury pool sucks. 0.98

00:08:45.000 It's in somewhere in Georgia, that is a county that is like 88% pro Biden. 0.99

00:08:50.000 So they're going to get convicted.

00:08:51.000 So they're just trying to stay out of jail pleading to misdemeanors.

00:08:53.000 But I would really like to, you know, and I also looked at- No, no, that's a felony.

00:08:57.000 I'm pretty sure Jenna Ellis was a felon. 1.00

00:08:58.000 She pleaded guilty to a felony?

00:09:00.000 I'm pretty sure it was a felony.

00:09:02.000 And I was reading it and I thought it was... Because Sidney Powell was like six misdemeanors and they dropped all her felonies.

00:09:08.000 She's the first one to go though.

00:09:09.000 I mean, they gave her the best deal.

00:09:10.000 Yeah.

00:09:10.000 I want to check because the story I was reading earlier, I'm pretty sure she was the one that was a single felony, which I thought was interesting.

00:09:19.000 She pleaded guilty to a felony charge, so no more traveling outside the country.

00:09:19.000 Yep, yep, yep.

00:09:24.000 Good luck.

00:09:25.000 It's one count of aiding and abetting false statements and writings for stuff she said to the Georgia Senate. 1.00

00:09:30.000 No, no, if you commit a felony and it's in the favor of the Democratic Party, like Kevin Clinesmith, the FBI attorney who lied to the federal court about CIA documents, he got reinstated to the bar last year and has a seven-figure job now.

00:09:42.000 Well, he's more trustworthy to them now.

00:09:44.000 So this is coming along with her book deal and her tell-all and I think it's part of the process

00:09:49.000 It's why you heard from that White House intern who made her her lies and launched her bogus book 1.00

00:09:53.000 But this is what they do the media captures them and says we're gonna launch you to you know

00:09:57.000 part of me says I don't blame any one of these individuals for taking the deal because

00:10:02.000 They all took the deal right?

00:10:04.000 It is a sign of the weakness of the anti-establishment faction in this country that they don't actually stand up for anything.

00:10:11.000 And then you look at, we talked about this, this famous makeup artist, whatever her name was.

00:10:16.000 Her line is Huda Beauty, I can't remember her last name.

00:10:20.000 She posts in favor of Palestine, gets a whole bunch of backlash, and she says, I don't care, don't buy my products, I stand for what I believe in.

00:10:27.000 And I'm like, man.

00:10:28.000 Okay.

00:10:29.000 I mean, these leftists are willing to just sacrifice everything for their business, their company, their money.

00:10:37.000 You've got a whole bunch of reports of people getting fired from their jobs.

00:10:41.000 It's always been this way.

00:10:41.000 They don't care.

00:10:42.000 I mentioned this with BLM, the guy who worked at Taco Bell.

00:10:45.000 Put on a BLM COVID mask and they said, you can't wear that.

00:10:48.000 And he goes, I refuse to take it off.

00:10:49.000 And they said, if you don't take it off, you're fired.

00:10:50.000 And he goes, fine.

00:10:51.000 Goes outside, films a video and says, I got fired for Black Lives Matter.

00:10:55.000 And then the company apologized.

00:10:57.000 Oh, we're so sorry.

00:10:57.000 What do people on the right do?

00:10:59.000 They take a plea deal.

00:11:00.000 What did Jenna Ellis do? 1.00

00:11:01.000 She was a lawyer who was approached by a client who says, here's my argument.

00:11:05.000 Can you draft this for me?

00:11:07.000 And she goes, oh yeah, we'll go through it and we'll advise you on it.

00:11:10.000 And that was it.

00:11:11.000 She was, she was, she had one count.

00:11:13.000 Under RICO and one count of I believe soliciting a public official or something like that.

00:11:18.000 Two charges is what she was facing and she took a felony plea deal. 0.87

00:11:23.000 Hundreds of thousands of dollars and is crying.

00:11:25.000 What I genuinely believe is that Jenna Ellis legitimately thought she was representing her client in 2020 and is now terrified and would rather sell you out, you out, all of us out in this country So that she can disappear into the sunset.

00:11:40.000 But this is a part of, like, this is an established practice.

00:11:44.000 If you're in Trump world and you're in Trump orbit and you get jettisoned for not doing your job properly, not only is it a scarlet letter, it's an act of vengeance.

00:11:53.000 Look at the gal that's on the, not the Today Show, but The View, right?

00:11:57.000 That's one example.

00:11:58.000 The other intern that wrote the White House book.

00:12:00.000 As long as you get jettisoned from Trump World and are willing to play ball, I guarantee you every one of these people has a book deal.

00:12:05.000 Yeah.

00:12:06.000 Has a show.

00:12:06.000 Lined up.

00:12:07.000 Lined up.

00:12:08.000 And is now guaranteed not to go to prison.

00:12:10.000 And like you said, they don't have any morals.

00:12:11.000 They don't have any convictions.

00:12:12.000 All they have to do is just say what they want and they're gonna be famous.

00:12:15.000 They're gonna go to Hollywood and LA and people are gonna put them on their shows and they're gonna be the greatest saviors of America.

00:12:20.000 If Sidney Powell, of all people, Michael Flynn's attorney, I gotta remind your audience, Sidney Powell was Michael Flynn's attorney who overturned that case.

00:12:29.000 And if she of all people will flip on Trump, why would anyone hold the line?

00:12:37.000 Yeah.

00:12:38.000 They just watched.

00:12:39.000 It's like being on the battlefield and watching George Washington drop his pants and cry and run from the battlefield.

00:12:44.000 I shouldn't compare her to George Washington, but I'm saying, like, a bunch of regular people are watching Sidney Powell go on TV and scream and bang her fist and say, I will not back down.

00:12:54.000 The viral video of her saying, I will not be intimidated.

00:12:56.000 And then as soon as they're like, we're criminally charging, she starts crying.

00:12:59.000 She's like, please, I'll do anything you say!

00:13:00.000 This was a woman who was one of the people smiling in her mugshot, right? 0.66

00:13:03.000 She presented this intensity.

00:13:09.000 To an extreme degree.

00:13:10.000 How can we have a country where we're saying, you know, we're anti-establishment, you've got to confront the values here, you have to stick by these things, and then you have these people immediately turn.

00:13:19.000 I mean, obviously, it's what the Democrats want.

00:13:21.000 But in some ways, to me, it really foils the motion that Trump filed today in his January 6 case saying, you know, you should dismiss the case because of First Amendment and double jeopardy.

00:13:29.000 But one of the lines in the case was, Under the First Amendment, Trump and his supporters have the right to question and doubt what the government tells them.

00:13:37.000 And so this idea that, like, she knowingly promoted false information, number one, did she know it was wrong?

00:13:42.000 And under the First Amendment, doesn't she have the right to doubt it?

00:13:44.000 I mean, it is sad to see someone who could have argued a really articulate message in court take the plea deal.

00:13:49.000 I understand that there's pressure.

00:13:51.000 On the other hand, if we're a values-based movement, you need people who are willing to defend their values.

00:13:55.000 The bravado is always so much more so online than it is in the real world.

00:13:59.000 But also, like you said, for somebody like you were talking about the makeup, she was a makeup distributor, right?

00:14:05.000 She's signaling to her base who's going to support her anyways.

00:14:08.000 But when somebody who's anti-establishment on the right is pushing back, They feel a lot of the times like they're out on a life raft once they actually put themselves out there like that, because where is there to go if it all falls through and they start coming at you with criminal charges that you do have to, you know, especially if they have a family, if they have kids and stuff like that, they're thinking about what that's going to be.

00:14:27.000 I'm not saying that's right, wrong.

00:14:28.000 I'm just saying I understand where the mindset comes from, where at the end of the day, a lot of these people are going to put themselves and their loved ones first over the movement, because that's just hierarchy of needs.

00:14:38.000 Right, for a lot of them.

00:14:39.000 I think this is a direct result of the two-tier system of justice that's been built in this country.

00:14:43.000 It's one of my biggest grievances in government gangsters.

00:14:45.000 And it's not just in federal court, it's in state court.

00:14:47.000 And what Tim said was, they've flipped.

00:14:49.000 That's the key for me.

00:14:51.000 Okay, what did they flip on?

00:14:52.000 But what they're doing is they're going out to the New York Times and saying, we got Trump's three top lawyers.

00:14:58.000 And as a guy from Trump world, I'm telling you, these people barely did anything for the boss.

00:15:02.000 And he came out and announced that Sidney Powell wasn't even his attorney.

00:15:05.000 So what they're doing, though, publicly, is they're saying, three Trump lawyers have now pled guilty to the election fraud scam case run by Donald Trump.

00:15:12.000 They're trying it in the public.

00:15:14.000 They're trying to get more and more dominoes to fall so that when Trump gets to court in Georgia, finally, whenever that is, they're going to say, oh, 14 defendants have pled guilty.

00:15:23.000 You must be guilty by association.

00:15:24.000 Where there's smoke, there's fire.

00:15:25.000 You must be guilty.

00:15:26.000 But where's the evidence?

00:15:27.000 Because if they had it, this is the thing you know about the New York Times and these corrupt prosecutors.

00:15:31.000 If they had a recording, if they had, you know, the I got you moment, the kill shot, it would have leaked.

00:15:36.000 This is the evidence.

00:15:37.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

00:15:38.000 When they begin filing 14th Amendment challenges to Donald Trump's 2024 candidacy, they're going to say, the court has to say, what's your evidence?

00:15:45.000 Jen Ellis and Sidney Powell confessed.

00:15:48.000 We have confessions, Your Honor, we have several confessions.

00:15:50.000 I mean, if they hadn't, to your point, if they hadn't aced in the hole, they wouldn't offer the plea deals. 0.52

00:15:54.000 They would want every single person to go down for as long as possible.

00:15:57.000 No, yeah, as a prosecutor, I was like, I don't want to, you're not going down for five years, you're going away for 40.

00:16:01.000 But it means that they don't have anything.

00:16:03.000 What was the maximum, like if she had been, if she had gone to court and tried her luck, what was the maximum sentence she would have gotten?

00:16:03.000 Right.

00:16:10.000 I think it's probably 20 years because it's a RICO conspiracy.

00:16:13.000 So would they, would they, would all the sentences be concurrent?

00:16:16.000 No, it's up to the judge.

00:16:17.000 Not at all.

00:16:18.000 You can stack them, you can hold them.

00:16:21.000 She had two charges.

00:16:21.000 She had two.

00:16:22.000 Yeah, you can make them consecutive.

00:16:24.000 So it's a total crapshoot.

00:16:27.000 But that 14th Amendment thing, this is just another hysterical thing.

00:16:30.000 Has anyone read the first sentence of the 14th Amendment?

00:16:32.000 I know you guys have.

00:16:33.000 But it says, And it names the vice president, the senators, the members of the House of Representatives in lower level offices.

00:16:40.000 You know who doesn't name?

00:16:41.000 The presidency.

00:16:43.000 The 14th Amendment, by its first sentence, doesn't apply to the presidency.

00:16:46.000 And we have all these freaking lawsuits around the country trying to disbar or whatever the word is, get Donald Trump off the ballot, which is hilarious.

00:16:52.000 And this boondoggle in Colorado, I think, just forwarded the case on to say, oh, this issue is ripe for decision making because people are talking about it publicly.

00:17:02.000 So, uh, section three, I believe, correct?

00:17:04.000 No person shall be a senator, or representative in Congress, or elector of president, and vice president, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who is having taken an oath as a member of Congress, or an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution, shall have engaged in insurrection, et cetera, et cetera.

00:17:04.000 Yeah.

00:17:23.000 So, vice president and president are not in here.

00:17:25.000 It says elector of vice president and vice president.

00:17:28.000 Exactly.

00:17:28.000 The president is explicitly not in there.

00:17:30.000 What do you think, the founding fathers just forgot?

00:17:33.000 Well, I mean, this was Civil War era.

00:17:34.000 No, I know, but, like, they were contemplating, what if we have to kick out these people from office?

00:17:40.000 They contemplated kicking out the president, and they said, no, that power is not going in the Constitution.

00:17:46.000 I mean, that was their decision.

00:17:47.000 Hasn't been overturned in 250-some years.

00:17:49.000 So then where does this all go?

00:17:50.000 I mean... Supreme Court.

00:17:51.000 All of it.

00:17:56.000 Yeah, but I don't see the Supreme Court right now siding against Trump on this matter.

00:18:00.000 No, it's not, but it's going to take like three years.

00:18:02.000 I was going to say, how long will it take to get there?

00:18:04.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:18:04.000 Drain resources?

00:18:05.000 I mean, look, they're doing it to everyone.

00:18:06.000 Like, I've spent $500,000 in attorney's fees on January 6th subpoenas, special counsel subpoenas.

00:18:12.000 I'm just one of the guys.

00:18:13.000 I mean, this is what they want you to do.

00:18:15.000 Cop a plea, bend a knee, we'll give you the book deal. 0.89

00:18:17.000 You know, Cassidy Hutchinson goes out in the world and lie, literally. 1.00

00:18:21.000 It's hilarious to me that her most promising statement of truth was President Trump reaching through the beast and trying to grab the steering wheel.

00:18:30.000 Have you been in the beast?

00:18:31.000 I have.

00:18:32.000 There's bulletproof window between the driver and the car part of where President Trump... What did she... Was she Hulk? 1.00

00:18:38.000 Did she punch through the glass window? 0.99

00:18:40.000 And how did she... Trump, right?

00:18:41.000 And how did she even see it?

00:18:43.000 If someone told me that Donald Trump got really green and big and then I'd have to believe that.

00:18:48.000 I think that's just gets out of his way. They're too scared.

00:18:51.000 He's the new Chuck Norris.

00:18:53.000 There's a diet coke.

00:18:56.000 Bursting apart.

00:18:57.000 It is hard to say, like, if what are you going to take?

00:19:01.000 Are you going to take $500,000?

00:19:02.000 For a lot of these other people, right?

00:19:03.000 It's $500,000 in legal fees, minimum.

00:19:06.000 Or the book deal down the line and your family doesn't pay it.

00:19:11.000 Talk about winning the lottery.

00:19:13.000 You're getting multiple seven figures just for lying.

00:19:17.000 And you're going to be glorified in the media.

00:19:19.000 The back end of what we have to deal with is if you look up my name in the media, I might be the Antichrist.

00:19:26.000 If you believe what the New York Times has said about me, but they will just defame you, they will make up stories, they will attack your family, death sentences.

00:19:33.000 I've gotten those things at my house every other month because they doxed me and let out my personal information.

00:19:38.000 I mean, this is what they do to you.

00:19:39.000 And the media, it's never- that pressure never gets turned off.

00:19:44.000 It's sad to me that there are very few people of conviction.

00:19:49.000 When I was reading this story earlier on my morning show, I don't understand the perspective of a person who would purport to hold certain values and then sacrifice them at a moment's notice.

00:20:02.000 I understand. 0.89

00:20:03.000 Jenna Ellis is a grifter. 1.00

00:20:05.000 Sidney Powell is a grifter. 0.99

00:20:06.000 This is what they are, right? 0.97

00:20:07.000 They said all these things they clearly didn't believe.

00:20:10.000 Because the question I often ask people is like, are you religious?

00:20:14.000 Yeah.

00:20:15.000 Christian? 0.80

00:20:15.000 Hindu. 0.80

00:20:16.000 Hindu.

00:20:17.000 If you were forced by a court to renounce your faith, otherwise you'd go to jail.

00:20:22.000 Would you do it?

00:20:23.000 They'd go pound sand.

00:20:24.000 I'd go to jail.

00:20:24.000 Right.

00:20:25.000 And I'm like, if you... And the reason I bring up religion is because this is something that people truly feel is a conviction they cannot sacrifice.

00:20:32.000 And I'm like, to see people like this go up in front of TV and be like, this is true, this is correct, and then turn around and be like, psych.

00:20:38.000 Well, people who have really strong convictions are vilified by especially mainstream media.

00:20:42.000 I mean, let's look at Owen Troyer who reported to jail today, right?

00:20:45.000 He is someone who has strong convictions and is treated like a complete other because of it by mainstream media if they talk about him at all and what's being done to him because it's very difficult to spin his case.

00:20:55.000 Jenna Ellis, this was her give, send, and go, and it's the archive because it's been removed.

00:21:02.000 This is an archive from earlier today.

00:21:02.000 She raised $216,000.

00:21:05.000 And it's interesting because there are comments from people saying she should take the plea deal because Otherwise she's going to burn through all that money and 200k is not enough to fight a legal battle like this. 1.00

00:21:15.000 Especially against any government.

00:21:16.000 But there are a lot of people who are furious and they thought that they were donating to fight the charges, not for her to just instantly cave in.

00:21:24.000 That's the thing, right?

00:21:25.000 She came in to be like, okay, you're going to be like the stalwart here.

00:21:28.000 You're going to be the fact witness in this case that exposes the corruption of the deep state in the Georgia state prosecution.

00:21:34.000 Do you think they turn on Trump and testify against him?

00:21:37.000 That's the deal they have to sign.

00:21:39.000 My question is, that's in every plea agreement, no matter what.

00:21:43.000 What people don't realize is when you sign a plea agreement that says I'm pleading guilty, you're saying you're cooperating.

00:21:49.000 I've done a thousand and one plea agreements, every one.

00:21:52.000 Whether you actually do down the road, 99% of people never do because it never comes up, but the substantive question for folks like her and Sidney Powell and whoever the other person is, Is what do they have on Trump?

00:22:05.000 Like, what, do they have a phone call and a recording that, you know, of conspiring of words?

00:22:09.000 Well, and this AP news, when they covered it, they were saying, you know, ultimately they're going to call into question their credibility because these people were participating in what Trump is being convicted of.

00:22:19.000 And so it's easy to sort of say, but you were doing it too.

00:22:21.000 Why are you turning on Trump?

00:22:22.000 I mean, they're not the stellar star witnesses that maybe the prosecution would want them You mentioned these book deals and these TV shows.

00:22:30.000 The only course of action that Jenna Ellis and Sidney Powell are going to have is to become woke leftists.

00:22:38.000 They're on their way.

00:22:39.000 Or neolibs.

00:22:40.000 Because they cannot show their face.

00:22:43.000 Oh no.

00:22:43.000 In a Trump rally, they get tomatoes thrown at them, boo, I mean, figuratively.

00:22:49.000 They get to be the talking head conservatives on the view and CNN.

00:22:54.000 And talk about, like, Cohen.

00:22:55.000 They're going to be like Cohen.

00:22:56.000 Oh, I was so wrong.

00:22:57.000 No, no.

00:22:58.000 It's like you were talking about, you know, specifically these three people.

00:23:01.000 They're in it for the attention.

00:23:03.000 They're not in it for the convictions.

00:23:04.000 It reminds me of, like, 85% of the people that are in Congress, literally.

00:23:08.000 They're there to get rich, to get famous.

00:23:11.000 They don't care about their convictions.

00:23:12.000 Oh, I'll pass this budget deal today and I'll sell my soul tomorrow for you because you're a big lobbyist and are giving me a seven figure payday.

00:23:18.000 I mean, these people have made a career in DC out of these boondoggles.

00:23:24.000 And to me, this is just a different extension of that.

00:23:26.000 While you might not be in Congress, you are going to get a golden parachute of monumental proportions for doing this nonsense. 0.93

00:23:33.000 But their only course of action is going to be to go the Cohen route and be like, oh, I was so wrong and I'm, you know, Trump is bad.

00:23:41.000 All these former conservatives who now act like... Orange man bad, you know? 0.89

00:23:44.000 Like the Lincoln Project after 2020.

00:23:48.000 They're like, the job's not done.

00:23:49.000 We're now going after Republican senators.

00:23:51.000 And it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:23:52.000 No, they're just going after children.

00:23:54.000 But the Lincoln Project says we want to restore the party of Lincoln, so we must remove Donald Trump.

00:23:54.000 Oh, right.

00:24:00.000 And then once Trump's out, they're like, but we're going to go after other Republicans, too.

00:24:03.000 And it's just like, right, because this is their grift.

00:24:05.000 Yeah.

00:24:06.000 That's the game.

00:24:06.000 Oh, it's a money-making scam.

00:24:08.000 Like, these people are getting paid.

00:24:10.000 Like, if you guys actually knew the amount of seven figures that is doled out by the Soros-funded boondoggles, by all of these organizations, they are so much more organized than the Republicans ever will be.

00:24:21.000 I hate to admit it, but they are.

00:24:24.000 I don't understand.

00:24:26.000 I just really really don't. 0.99

00:24:27.000 There are evil, sick, twisted people. 0.99

00:24:30.000 I gotta be honest. 0.99

00:24:31.000 There is a certain point where money doesn't do anything for you.

00:24:34.000 And I'm like, why sell?

00:24:37.000 Why destroy everything around you?

00:24:40.000 For something that you couldn't even really do anything with.

00:24:43.000 Like, to elaborate, you get to a certain point of wealth, and I quite literally mean this speaking from experience, where it's hard to track things that you're buying and what you're investing in, and you hire people to do it, and it's just like, for what purpose?

00:24:57.000 It doesn't enrich your life.

00:24:59.000 I mean, for me, a lot of the stuff we do here at TimCast is like investing in the projects, the missions, the people, the culture.

00:25:05.000 Building things like we bought a building because we're going to open a coffee shop.

00:25:08.000 But for people in this world, when it comes to news and politics, for what reason does Nancy Pelosi need $200 million net worth to sell out and destroy the country? 1.00

00:25:21.000 I'm sorry, some people are just evil.

00:25:23.000 There are jobs that you don't really expect people to make a lot of money in, and we all hear politicians say, I'm here for public service, you know, the most lucrative career I could have gone into.

00:25:32.000 The question for me is, with these plea deals, they'll run out, right?

00:25:36.000 We now have three people who are willing to testify.

00:25:39.000 At a certain point, Georgia's going to want to have a pretty big show if we've convicted all these people.

00:25:43.000 There are 15 co-defendants left.

00:25:45.000 So let me ask you, Cash.

00:25:47.000 At a certain point, they stop offering plea deals because they've got now three cooperating witnesses who will testify against the others.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, I think they keep going only because it's just it's free press.

00:25:58.000 Every day Donald Trump's just a little more guilty.

00:26:00.000 Well, that guy's guilty.

00:26:01.000 She's guilty.

00:26:01.000 That girl's guilty.

00:26:02.000 Well, he's got to be guilty!

00:26:03.000 And then you get 15 people to testify against Trump and that's your evidence.

00:26:07.000 On a jury trial, which is like game over, if it was a fair court where you could go in and cross-examine these witnesses and shred their credibility based on their past actions, past statements.

00:26:17.000 These people have been on TV, on national TV, saying the exact opposite of what they're about to testify to, under oath, and you would destroy them.

00:26:27.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:26:28.000 It's like a New York City jury.

00:26:29.000 They're going to be like, what?

00:26:30.000 And then wake up when the verdict's due and say guilty.

00:26:33.000 In this case too, look, this is going to go through the Georgia state court system, then the federal court, but the question is, are any of these cases actually going to get to a point where Donald Trump is convicted before the next election, and one of these crazy people actually puts him in jail?

00:26:48.000 In prison?

00:26:49.000 Like, one of these state court judges says, nope, you can have your appeal, but you're going in the clinic.

00:26:54.000 I think it's more so to drain his resources and make it impossible for him to campaign properly.

00:26:59.000 Well, it is.

00:27:00.000 I mean, look, if you have to be in court and not on the road, but take, for instance, I think only what Donald Trump can do, and obviously I'm biased, I'm his national security advisor, but he's in New York City, basically campaigning from the courtroom.

00:27:13.000 Like the guy comes out every 25 minutes and makes a statement and everyone covers it.

00:27:17.000 He's on truth social, punching out, you know, hits against Aaron Cohen or whoever, or the attorney general.

00:27:23.000 That's true.

00:27:23.000 I mean, you know, we're talking about these members of Congress who make all this money.

00:27:27.000 And you said, like, the most lucrative job.

00:27:29.000 Well, a lot of the rank-and-file members of Congress, you don't even know their names.

00:27:32.000 They don't make any money.

00:27:32.000 And they're probably there for better reasons than we are here.

00:27:35.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:27:35.000 You gotta internet search the wealth of the average member of Congress.

00:27:39.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:39.000 Half of them are millionaires.

00:27:40.000 It's crazy.

00:27:41.000 But my point is, not every one of them succeeds in getting attention and getting access.

00:27:47.000 So for Donald Trump to be able to walk out of the courtroom every time they call him in and get every eyeball in the country...

00:27:54.000 That's something he could not pay for.

00:27:57.000 There are tons of journalists that are just on Truth Social to see what he says.

00:28:01.000 Let's jump to the story from TimCast.com.

00:28:04.000 Trump files motion to dismiss January 6th case, citing double jeopardy in First Amendment.

00:28:09.000 This is interesting.

00:28:11.000 Former President Donald Trump has asked the U.S.

00:28:12.000 District Court of Columbia to dismiss special counsel Jack Smith's case against him for his alleged role in the events of January 6th, citing the First Amendment and double jeopardy.

00:28:21.000 Quote, if there is any constant in our democratic system of governance, it is that the marketplace of ideas, not the mandates of government functionaries or partisan prosecutors, determines the scope of public debate, stated Trump's reps in a filing.

00:28:32.000 Countless millions believe, as Trump consistently has and currently does, that fraud and irregularities pervaded the 2020 presidential election.

00:28:41.000 As the indictment itself alleges, President Trump gave voice to those concerns and demanded that politicians in a position to restore integrity to our elections, not just talk about the problem, but investigate and solve it.

00:28:50.000 So I think what they're saying, uh, here's a quote.

00:28:53.000 Additionally, as the United States Senate has previously tried and acquitted President Trump for charges arising from the same course of conduct alleged in the indictment, the impeachment, and double jeopardy clauses both bar retrial before this court and require dismissal.

00:29:06.000 Is that true?

00:29:08.000 I mean, I'm not the constitutional lawyer.

00:29:10.000 I think on freedom of speech and First Amendment grounds, he should, because if you're not Well, the two-tier system of justice again, right?

00:29:18.000 If you're Nancy Pelosi, Hakeem Jeffries, Hillary Clinton, you can say the election was stolen, the election was rigged, this whole process sucks, I didn't win, wah-wah-wah, and then if you're Donald Trump, you're going to prison.

00:29:28.000 So on that just basis alone, by the way, this judge could not be more corrupt and biased, we can get into that if you want to. 0.91

00:29:34.000 Is that Chitkin? 1.00

00:29:35.000 Yeah, I've literally been before her.

00:29:39.000 The double jeopardy, here's a really crazy thing about double jeopardy, and I only know this because I paid attention for like seven seconds in law school to try to pass the bar exam.

00:29:48.000 You can be charged in state and federal court for the exact same thing.

00:29:52.000 It's not double jeopardy.

00:29:53.000 You just can't be charged in federal court twice for the same thing.

00:29:56.000 Or the same state, I'm assuming.

00:29:58.000 It can't be the same jurisdiction.

00:30:00.000 Right, exactly.

00:30:01.000 So on double jeopardy grounds, he's good if he's saying, no, this needs to go because you already are alleging this in the South Florida case in Miami.

00:30:11.000 It's got to go.

00:30:11.000 Then he's got a strong point.

00:30:12.000 So these are both federal then?

00:30:14.000 These are both federal.

00:30:15.000 This has to do with the Miami DC case.

00:30:17.000 And if they're going to bring more charges or not, it remains to be seen.

00:30:20.000 So in bringing up, it's interesting, impeachment.

00:30:24.000 Where?

00:30:24.000 is not the criminal case. The argument is first they would impeach Donald Trump, then convict him, and

00:30:30.000 then after he's convicted they can file the criminal indictment and seek to convict him on criminal charges.

00:30:36.000 Where? In Congress?

00:30:37.000 So the arguments as to why Donald Trump can't be criminally charged yet is that he has to be impeached for these things

00:30:43.000 first.

00:30:44.000 But he's been criminally charged.

00:30:46.000 Right, so the argument is... I can't remember who wrote this.

00:30:50.000 We covered it several times.

00:30:51.000 Oh, I see the legal gymnastics you're talking about.

00:30:54.000 Well, there's a constitutional argument that you can't criminally charge members of the Trump administration or Trump himself because it's the executive branch.

00:31:04.000 You have to seek impeachment, argument being, The president has broad leeway in taking actions for the benefit of this country or the direction of this country.

00:31:13.000 And if you believe the president has done wrong by this country, you have to impeach him, which is the statement of, I hereby accuse you of crimes and misdemeanors.

00:31:23.000 Then the Senate convicts him for doing it.

00:31:25.000 Then, after we all agree the president has broken his oath of office or whatever, you then file criminal charges against him.

00:31:31.000 That's a pretty good constitutional argument.

00:31:33.000 It makes the most sense.

00:31:34.000 Because if that was not the case, Any blue state could file criminal charges against the president anytime.

00:31:42.000 State charges!

00:31:43.000 Oh, the president committed a crime!

00:31:44.000 What?

00:31:45.000 How are we supposed to have a president if... Like, think about the Civil War, when the states were upset with Lincoln pre-Civil War, and the fears about... Imagine if Virginia or Alabama was just like, eh, we're criminally charging the president.

00:31:57.000 Well, you couldn't.

00:31:58.000 That was the argument.

00:31:59.000 He has to be impeached, which is the agreement the president has committed high crimes and misdemeanors, and then is removed from office.

00:32:05.000 More so than just the... I'll put it this way.

00:32:08.000 If that is not the standard, then there is no president.

00:32:12.000 A single state could challenge the results of an election by criminally charging a president for anything.

00:32:18.000 So you need a federal level impeachment against him before you can try and criminally charge him at a state level.

00:32:22.000 Well, you're also not supposed to be ever to be able to charge him while he's sitting in office.

00:32:26.000 So it's going to be even interesting if he wins 2024.

00:32:27.000 And what are you going to do?

00:32:30.000 Well, that's exactly the argument they're making, is that the actions they're charging Trump over happened while he was president.

00:32:39.000 In which case... I agree with that.

00:32:41.000 He should be immune from that prosecution, because... Until he's convicted in an impeachment trial.

00:32:46.000 Right, then... So totally on board with that, because he was in the White House.

00:32:50.000 He was still there, saying whatever he was allowed to say, and that's protected.

00:32:54.000 And I would say this too.

00:32:56.000 The reason why I have nothing but disgust for those lawyers, like Jenna Ellis and Sidney Powell, is that it is...

00:33:04.000 It is not just a constitutional duty to provide legal counsel to an individual.

00:33:10.000 It is not just a legal duty to provide counsel to someone who is seeking a redress of grievances.

00:33:17.000 It is an obligation for Donald Trump, if he believes the election was stolen, to pursue all legal methods to investigate and seek remedy.

00:33:28.000 That would mean any lawyer who is taking up that job has a duty to this country to make sure that's the case.

00:33:34.000 For Jenna Ellis to have lied in her previous statements that she believed, or in her arguments, for Sidney Powell to have lied, or to have flipped now, they are basically saying the fabric of this nation means less to them than their personal comfort.

00:33:50.000 Yeah, and what you're also saying is that a president, a sitting president, is not entitled to counsel.

00:33:57.000 Is that the precedent we want to set?

00:33:58.000 Is that the historical foundation we want to set?

00:34:01.000 Because you disagree with him politically, and that decision should be adjudicated at the polls and not in the courts of law.

00:34:06.000 Are we going to now, when President Trump says he wins in 2024, are we going to go back and arrest, based on this DOJ's precedent, every Joe Biden attorney?

00:34:15.000 That worked against electing President Donald Trump and provided advice to Joe Biden saying it was okay to take classified documents out of the, you know, when you were Vice President and Senator.

00:34:25.000 I mean, that's what they want us to do.

00:34:27.000 And I think they don't care because the mainstream media will cover for them and it'll just be Orange Man bad, but it's a two-tier system, Justin.

00:34:32.000 They don't care.

00:34:33.000 Well, the argument is a three-tiered.

00:34:35.000 You've got the people who get away with everything, the regular people that get ignored and never get any attention, and then the people who are arrested for everything.

00:34:43.000 You know, so there are a lot of people who have talked about going to the police for help because of crimes and they are completely ignored.

00:34:50.000 That's true.

00:34:51.000 Go to DC.

00:34:52.000 Is a big reason a lot of this is going on that right now, given the way approval rates are sitting, are they worried that undecided voters who are looking for something different, who may are like, look, four years have gone by.

00:35:04.000 Maybe you forget a little bit of like a lot of these people who maybe didn't vote for Donald Trump in 2020.

00:35:09.000 Four years have gone by.

00:35:10.000 Things have gotten bad enough now that maybe they're like, maybe I'm willing to go back to it, is the idea to keep this in the news, keep him in trial, not just in an actual trial, but the court of public opinion, to keep voters from wanting to swing back and possibly give him a shot this time around, because you keep dirtying him up by keeping him in the news with all these cycles.

00:35:28.000 Well, that's the hope. 0.92

00:35:29.000 Look, remember, the Democrats aren't stupid. 1.00

00:35:31.000 They're evil and they're wicked and they're geniuses at certain points in time when they collaborate together. 1.00

00:35:37.000 They don't want Joe Biden to be their candidate. 1.00

00:35:40.000 They might not publicly say that, but they're not morons. 0.96

00:35:43.000 What they're trying to do is both dirty up Trump and Biden at the same time, and then they're gonna be like, no, no, we're going after both people. 0.96

00:35:51.000 But they want to give Joe Biden an exit ramp.

00:35:53.000 It's not a coincidence.

00:35:54.000 There are no coincidences in government, major theme in my book, that David Ignatius of the Washington Freaking Post comes out and says, oh, Joe Biden, you've done so well, but please retire now.

00:36:03.000 That's not a coincidence.

00:36:04.000 That means the FBI DOJ gave David Ignatius the details of Hunter Biden's criminal case and Joe Biden's criminal case and said, if we don't get this guy out, this is what's coming, and then we're going to indict him.

00:36:16.000 But if we just charge Hunter and we force Daddy Biden to commute his sentence, that's it.

00:36:22.000 Game over.

00:36:23.000 He can't be president.

00:36:24.000 I think there's a decent probability that Joe Biden gets indicted.

00:36:28.000 For the reasons you just outlined.

00:36:29.000 They might have to go to that.

00:36:31.000 I'm saying that's their last option.

00:36:34.000 It's their plausibility shield for middle-of-the-road, uninitiated individuals.

00:36:37.000 Oh, 100%.

00:36:37.000 They'll go to Merrick Garland, who looks like a wet noodle every time he approaches a microphone.

00:36:43.000 Him and Chris Wray, the worst FBI director in history, will go to the microphone and say, we charge two sitting presidents.

00:36:48.000 Or whatever, one former president.

00:36:49.000 We're not biased.

00:36:50.000 We're not biased.

00:36:50.000 Look at this.

00:36:51.000 We're charging Biden, too.

00:36:52.000 We're everybody. 0.97

00:36:52.000 And Biden's a criminal. 0.97

00:36:54.000 Biden is the sacrificial lamb. 0.99

00:36:57.000 I think Hunter's their leverage point.

00:36:59.000 I think they get to that.

00:37:01.000 But here's the thing.

00:37:02.000 They got to figure all this stuff out in the next 90 days.

00:37:04.000 Once you get past the Iowa caucuses, they can't airmail in Gavin Newsom, the guy they want to come in to be president.

00:37:10.000 Technically, if Joe Biden is incapable of running, something will happen.

00:37:16.000 I mean, you're right in terms of a primary.

00:37:18.000 But They'll make it happen, you know what I mean?

00:37:25.000 But that's what I'm saying, that's why these articles are starting to come out from left-wing organizations.

00:37:29.000 That's not random.

00:37:31.000 The government has called them and said, hey, this is coming, we need you to help us grease the skids, get rid of this guy, politely, and then we'll glorify him for being the savior from Trump.

00:37:42.000 That's what they will literally write about him for decades to come, if this play happens, and half of America will buy it.

00:37:48.000 That's why I kind of think a medical issue is the more likely out for Joe Biden.

00:37:52.000 Well, you just have to watch him on TV for like 30 seconds if you want a medical issue.

00:37:56.000 But how do you get Kamala Harris out of the way? 1.00

00:38:00.000 How do you get Joe Biden to not run?

00:38:02.000 And how do you get a Gavin Newsom in?

00:38:04.000 Joe Biden has a medical issue.

00:38:06.000 Gavin Newsom runs out on stage, performs CPR, saves the life of the president.

00:38:09.000 I mean, think about it.

00:38:10.000 And then Kamala Harris assumes the role, acting president for the remainder of the year, but then says, I really want to take that Senate seat in California.

00:38:17.000 I need to return to my home.

00:38:18.000 No, no, no.

00:38:19.000 She's going to go take her $10 million payday. 0.98

00:38:21.000 But what you'll say is I am honored to have served this country as president.

00:38:27.000 I took out Trump with Biden, the greatest victor.

00:38:29.000 Right.

00:38:30.000 And I believe it is not in the cards for me to pursue an election with such short notice.

00:38:34.000 So I'd like to honor, you know, with honor and humility, offer up Gavin Newsom and ask him to lead this nation, and then you get a Gavin Newsom.

00:38:42.000 That's why Newsom's probably, when's he, he's debating DeSantis next month.

00:38:45.000 DeSantis on the 30th.

00:38:46.000 Of this month?

00:38:46.000 Of November, November.

00:38:49.000 For Tater Ron to go in there. 0.77

00:38:51.000 And accept this debate just shows you the disparity of where these two individuals are.

00:38:57.000 You want to know my conspiracy theories?

00:38:59.000 Yes, I do.

00:38:59.000 But you know what's hilarious for your audience?

00:39:02.000 I go to engagements around the country for Donald Trump all the time.

00:39:05.000 I do big events, whatever.

00:39:06.000 Ron DeSantis should call in for presidency when he can put more people in a room than Cash Patel.

00:39:12.000 Have you seen his events?

00:39:14.000 It's sad!

00:39:15.000 Here's what I think.

00:39:17.000 A year and a half ago, we were talking about Ron being president.

00:39:20.000 I mean, tons of outlets were having this conversation, before Trump announced, before he was back in the game.

00:39:25.000 And there was conversations when Trump was announcing that a Trump-DeSantis ticket would be unstoppable.

00:39:30.000 Before DeSantis- I remember being part of those conversations.

00:39:33.000 Here's my conspiracy theory.

00:39:35.000 Special interests, establishment interests, knew that was the case.

00:39:39.000 Probably looked at the polling data and says, Trump's a wild card that pisses people off, but DeSantis stabilizes his numbers by being that More boring, regular politician, we need to make sure they can never form that ticket.

00:39:53.000 So they go to DeSantis, whisper sweet nothings in his ears, and I wondered this, and I say it's a conspiracy theory, I'm not saying I literally believe it's absolute, I'm saying just entertain the interesting thought based on this.

00:40:05.000 If you look at what Ron DeSantis' campaign has been like, your only conclusion could be that he is being sabotaged.

00:40:11.000 Have you seen him wearing the high heels?

00:40:13.000 Oh, the cowboy boots with the big lifts.

00:40:15.000 Big lifts is an understatement.

00:40:17.000 You should have just gone straight to platforms.

00:40:20.000 The front of the boot is flat and bent like there's no foot in it.

00:40:24.000 It looks like his foot is pressed up against the front of the boot and there's a four-inch

00:40:27.000 lift in them.

00:40:28.000 Now, I'm not saying I know for a fact that's true, but these are the memes that are coming

00:40:31.000 out.

00:40:32.000 You look at how Ashley St. Clair made a joke about it and Christina Pujar starts attacking

00:40:36.000 her and I'm like...

00:40:38.000 is are like, are they intentionally nuking? The first thing I said was, I believe that 0.95

00:40:44.000 Ron DeSantis campaign staff are secret Trump supporters who are intentionally nuking his

00:40:48.000 campaign to help Trump. Then I thought about it. I'm like, maybe the real goal is to stop DeSantis

00:40:53.000 from having teamed up with Trump in the first place, because now that relationship is beyond

00:40:57.000 repair. It's nuked. It's. Yeah. And I don't I don't really understand why it would not have

00:41:03.000 been good for. I know there's that whole thing. You know, if you have your moment in politics,

00:41:07.000 you don't want to miss it, but would DeSantis have suffered from being vice president, you know?

00:41:11.000 No.

00:41:11.000 I don't think he would.

00:41:12.000 I mean, he can't be governor again, right?

00:41:14.000 Isn't he term limited?

00:41:14.000 So where does he go?

00:41:16.000 Vice presidency is not a bad idea, especially to gain official exposure on the national stage.

00:41:21.000 Or you give him a secretarial position in the cabinet, Secretary of Agriculture, whatever, right?

00:41:27.000 Education?

00:41:27.000 Education, have it out for two years or four years, and you'd still only be 46, you know, at the time of the end of the second Trump administration, you can run in.

00:41:36.000 But I think it's not a conspiracy.

00:41:38.000 So you've got to look at DeSantis' top three donors.

00:41:41.000 Ken Griffin from Citadel, number one.

00:41:43.000 He's now actually conveniently stopped giving Ron money.

00:41:46.000 But when it first started, they went all in on the super PAC.

00:41:50.000 And I know the guys running that super PAC.

00:41:52.000 They were always never Trumpers and Trump haters and flipped the wagon as soon as it became convenient for them.

00:41:58.000 And they were the ones out there in the media saying, we are going to be the ones that save the Republican Party from Donald Trump.

00:42:03.000 And I remember everybody excoriating Trump for being like, you can't make fun of Ron.

00:42:08.000 You can't call him desanctimonious.

00:42:10.000 Which is not the best nickname, I will say.

00:42:12.000 I mean, but here's the effect, right?

00:42:14.000 Whether it was the best nickname or not, Trump's strategy was to kneecap him before that guy ever

00:42:19.000 got out of the gate. And everybody in the political arena was saying, this is not going to work.

00:42:24.000 And Ron literally puts less people in a room than I do if I send out one true social post.

00:42:31.000 It sounds like they said if Trump gets DeSantis on the ticket, we can't beat him.

00:42:37.000 There's nobody who can run against him.

00:42:39.000 Nobody.

00:42:40.000 And so they were like, let's go to DeSantis and offer him tons of money and tell him he's the guy

00:42:44.000 and it's his path, convince him.

00:42:47.000 And then once he betrays Trump, that's it, we're done.

00:42:49.000 And then they walk away and they stopped giving him money.

00:42:51.000 Isn't he like number five now already?

00:42:53.000 Like on the, what do you call it?

00:42:55.000 The GOP stakes, he's not even like the second guy.

00:42:57.000 I think he's number three in the prediction market.

00:42:59.000 But you mentioned this, the donors have stopped giving him money.

00:43:02.000 They pulled out.

00:43:03.000 And that was a while ago.

00:43:04.000 And then he had the mass layoff.

00:43:05.000 Like they barely gave him any money at all.

00:43:07.000 It's kind of crazy.

00:43:08.000 But don't worry, when he debates Gavin Newsom, who, by the way, will probably clobber him.

00:43:13.000 I don't like Gavin Newsom, but he's charismatic, he's smart, and he knows how to speak and debate.

00:43:17.000 And that's going to be the one debate I watch.

00:43:20.000 I won't watch any of the GOP ones, but I'll watch that one.

00:43:23.000 Look at this.

00:43:25.000 Nikki Haley is in second place in the prediction market.

00:43:28.000 I never would have saw that coming.

00:43:29.000 I gotta be honest.

00:43:30.000 She was doing well in New Hampshire last I checked.

00:43:32.000 It's also hard for Ron to push back against Trump when it comes to like the social media presence because he is supposed to be this traditional politician that was more of a quiet mind, you know, quiet.

00:43:44.000 Reagan.

00:43:45.000 Yeah, like so it's a lot harder in the social media age when everything's a meme.

00:43:50.000 To push back when people are saying that you're wearing high heels.

00:43:54.000 How does somebody use dignity to get their way out of that?

00:43:58.000 So you said that the people that work for him then say to Ashley Sinclair, oh, you're being rude for doing something like this.

00:44:05.000 That's not going to work.

00:44:07.000 Not in the social media.

00:44:08.000 I mean, you'd hope that he'd lean into the fact that he's young and be like, you crazy kids on social media with your jokes and your ideas, but instead it was just this crazy serious thing.

00:44:17.000 I mean, like, he could have gone boot shopping on TikTok or like on Reels or whatever, and it might have been better, but it really feels to me like the undercurrent of what's around him is looking for a fight and they're feeling insecure.

00:44:30.000 And again, I actually feel like, you know, I always say that we, I don't want to short the bench, right?

00:44:34.000 Like if Trump is elected, he will only, he'll be a one term president and he could do incredible things, but we have to keep the momentum going.

00:44:41.000 There has to be people after him.

00:44:43.000 And so whether it's Ron DeSantis or not, we don't need it to be this crazy infighting led by people who are feeling insecure about their campaign.

00:44:50.000 Funny too, because didn't, like, Logan Paul did the thing with Vivek and it became his biggest social media platform to push his campaign ideas?

00:44:59.000 Like, Ron probably would have been better off figuring out a way to actually lean into the social media aspect of it better.

00:45:05.000 Like this picture right here.

00:45:07.000 Who is that?

00:45:09.000 I don't know, but you look at his boots and they're on the ground, but it does look like he's on his tippy toes.

00:45:14.000 It's just weird.

00:45:15.000 It's just much more disarming to people to laugh with them, right?

00:45:19.000 And that's the reality here.

00:45:21.000 But doesn't that break his image, right?

00:45:23.000 His image is supposed to be the person who institutes policy and then doesn't feel the need to have to clap back.

00:45:29.000 That's what they liked about him, right?

00:45:30.000 They liked the fact that he was not the reactionary of Trump, but he needs to be.

00:45:34.000 But he did end up clapping back, and he could have been the guy that is like, oh, I'm so dignified.

00:45:38.000 Ha ha, I'll laugh with you.

00:45:39.000 No, but you're right.

00:45:39.000 You know, you raise a good point.

00:45:41.000 Like, he could have just waited it out a hot second, been on a meteoric rise, and would have been the dude, you know, come 2028, whatever that math is.

00:45:50.000 Instead, not only is he not the dude now, he's never gonna be the dude in this generation.

00:45:55.000 Like, he's 45, so maybe at 65 he could make a play like Trump did, maybe in his 70s.

00:46:00.000 But right now, he's gone.

00:46:02.000 This Republican Party is completely different.

00:46:05.000 People in the state of Florida have to—everybody's like, oh, Ron DeSantis is doing a great job in the state of Florida.

00:46:09.000 He is.

00:46:11.000 But do you know the vote structure in the state of Florida?

00:46:13.000 In 2022, Ron DeSantis got 4 million votes in the state of Florida.

00:46:17.000 In 2022, Donald J. Trump got 5.1 million votes in the state of Florida.

00:46:23.000 In 2022?

00:46:24.000 Or 2020?

00:46:24.000 2020, excuse me.

00:46:26.000 So the year they were both on ticket, that's the spread in the state of Florida.

00:46:29.000 He was also losing a lot of the America First people, right?

00:46:32.000 Because they were like, look, Neocon.

00:46:34.000 They immediately smelled Neocon on him anyways.

00:46:37.000 Well, the donors.

00:46:37.000 Yeah, and had a lot of questions about it.

00:46:40.000 So he would have had a lot of ground to make up there anyways.

00:46:44.000 Yeah, I mean, there are things that, and I remember saying this at this time a year ago, that there were things that I thought DeSantis could bring to, you'd say, a debate stage and talk about really interestingly.

00:46:53.000 I mean, Florida is unique in the sense that it deals with a lot of illegal immigration that's unique to that region, right?

00:46:58.000 They have a lot of immigration from Cuba, they have a lot of immigration from... Oh, you good, homie? 1.00

00:47:04.000 Ron DeSantis just sent me, his team just sent me a message for a donor event in Las Vegas where I live.

00:47:11.000 I was like, do you guys even know who you're sending this stuff to anymore?

00:47:14.000 Are you going to go?

00:47:17.000 Maybe, you know, why not?

00:47:18.000 You know, maybe I'll go in there and go and walk in his boots.

00:47:21.000 I can ask him about his boots.

00:47:23.000 The funny thing is it's in Treasure Island, which is Phil Ruffin's place, who's Donald Trump's best friend.

00:47:26.000 I find this hilarious.

00:47:27.000 Be like 3 inch lifts or 4 inch lifts?

00:47:30.000 Just take a picture next time because we were trying to figure out the height.

00:47:33.000 And look, I was personally offended as somebody who's short, you know, I wanted him to win the

00:47:38.000 short vote. You wanted representation. I wanted representation. I wanted him to win the short vote.

00:47:42.000 Let's jump to this story from foxnews.com and maybe we'll give Ron Desantis a little

00:47:47.000 bit of praise here after we just ragged on him.

00:47:49.000 The DeSantis administration directs Florida universities to terminate student chapters that support Hamas terrorism.

00:47:56.000 Now, the first thing I thought when I saw this was this is a misplay.

00:48:01.000 This is Ron going too far in the culture war, targeting free speech from students.

00:48:05.000 I don't like that they support this stuff, but we want these far leftists to go out and talk about how they support Hamas.

00:48:11.000 And then, you actually read it, Ron DeSantis is correct in this regard.

00:48:15.000 These individuals are not just speaking.

00:48:17.000 Let me read this.

00:48:19.000 The letter states, the student group present at at least two universities in Florida, known as the National Students for Justice in Palestine, Published a toolkit that refers to the Hamas operation as the resistance and says that Palestinian students in exile are part of this movement, not in solidarity with the movement.

00:48:36.000 Quite literally, I believe that's a violation of federal law in providing material support to terrorist organizations.

00:48:43.000 So in this capacity, it goes well beyond just speech.

00:48:48.000 It's difficult.

00:48:49.000 I always try to be careful and I would personally require a lot of evidence and adjudication on this.

00:48:56.000 I don't want a government, a governor or a president to be able to come out and be like, nope, you said you support terrorists, so we're shutting you down.

00:49:02.000 Like, no, no, no, we'll bring it to court.

00:49:05.000 You shouldn't be able to just do this.

00:49:07.000 They should have filed something that they should have to respond to.

00:49:10.000 There should be a due process here.

00:49:12.000 The letter explains that it's a felony under Florida law to knowingly provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization.

00:49:18.000 These chapters exist under the leadership of the National Students for Justice in Palestine, who distributed a toolkit identifying themselves as part of the Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, based on the National S.P.J.

00:49:28.000 uh, S.P.

00:49:28.000 uh, J.P.s, sorry.

00:49:30.000 Support of terrorism.

00:49:31.000 In consultation with Governor DeSantis, the student chapter must be deactivated.

00:49:34.000 These two student chapters may form another organization that complies with Florida state statutes and university policies.

00:49:39.000 The two institutions should grant these two chapters a waiver for the fall deadlines should reapplication take place.

00:49:45.000 Now my question here is, if they genuinely believe these individuals are supporting terrorism, why would they be like, just refile?

00:49:52.000 Wouldn't they be like, we are going to arrest and charge you for this?

00:49:56.000 Well, what people always forget now, especially, is that Hamas is a designated foreign terrorist organization.

00:50:03.000 That has been the case for decades in Republican and Democratic administrations.

00:50:08.000 So that's leg one of this whole statute about, you know, I used to prosecute guys for providing material support to terrorism.

00:50:14.000 It can be arms, it can be money, it can be planning, it can be whatever, right?

00:50:17.000 Conspiring with them to do bad stuff.

00:50:19.000 So you have that piece of the puzzle.

00:50:21.000 Are they a designated foreign terrorist organization?

00:50:23.000 But here's the thing.

00:50:24.000 That's not Florida law.

00:50:25.000 It's federal law, right?

00:50:26.000 So anything in Florida that speaks to that is superseded by federal law and material support statutes.

00:50:31.000 So you're right.

00:50:32.000 I agree that if they're providing money to a foreign terrorist organization, it's material support.

00:50:41.000 What if they claim to be and are providing labor?

00:50:44.000 Well, then you have to go to court and prove that you're providing labor that is not attributed to terrorist activity, right?

00:50:51.000 You're, I'm saving babies in, you know, wherever and providing food to the homeless or something like that.

00:50:56.000 So we get into this, we get into this problem when we have all these humanitarian refugee camps, right? 1.00

00:51:01.000 Like across Syria and all of these donors want to give money and you're like, well, we're giving it to all these people and known foreign terrorists who are in the camps that run the camp. 0.62

00:51:11.000 How are we going to, what are we going to do with that?

00:51:12.000 That's been an ongoing issue for a long time.

00:51:15.000 What do you think of Tom Cotton?

00:51:16.000 He wrote that letter to Mallorca saying we need to expel foreign nationals who violate federal law by espousing support for Hamas because you're barred from espousing.

00:51:25.000 It's the law.

00:51:27.000 This DOJ won't actually do it because it's the DOJ along with the State Department that has to get together to make that ejection possible.

00:51:34.000 What he's saying, I think you have to break it down a little further than just expel everyone.

00:51:38.000 If you are affiliated with a known foreign terrorist organization, Hamas, in America, and you are supporting them, in the very least, you should be kicked out of the country and more likely prosecuted.

00:51:49.000 What normally happens is you get prosecuted, then you get stripped of your citizenship or residency status, then you get the boot.

00:51:55.000 Do you think any of this is likely to happen?

00:51:57.000 No, not in this administration.

00:51:58.000 That's what I find to be the crazy thing.

00:52:00.000 There's going to be all of this fury and the progressives themselves are divided over the issue, but nothing will happen from the Biden administration.

00:52:06.000 Not in this one.

00:52:07.000 And stuff like this is going to become more common in the Internet age as these people are able to coordinate more freely, I assume?

00:52:13.000 Yeah.

00:52:13.000 Well, like, look, so the difference between Al-Qaeda and ISIS, I mean, the main difference, right?

00:52:17.000 Al-Qaeda, they brought your self and your team to wherever, Stan, mountain region they were, to train you up, kit you out, and send you back out to do your thing. 0.94

00:52:28.000 ISIS just did it online.

00:52:29.000 That was their deal.

00:52:30.000 That was their whole recruitment platform.

00:52:32.000 You don't need to come to, you know, Afghanistan or Pakistan.

00:52:36.000 Click here and donate.

00:52:37.000 Click here and learn how to fire an AK-47.

00:52:40.000 And then eventually maybe you'll come downrange and go to one of our camps.

00:52:43.000 So that's already happening.

00:52:45.000 And our problem has been You know, it's a free speech thing.

00:52:48.000 What if these guys are in these chat groups or in these, you know, pro-ISIS organization chapters and they're saying, well, I just support what they say.

00:52:55.000 I don't support what they do.

00:52:57.000 It's, it's, it's hard to prosecute that.

00:52:59.000 It's hard to make that call.

00:53:01.000 And it's hard for, I think for a lot of like the free speech Americans who do believe in that, like, especially cause a lot of them are younger, right?

00:53:06.000 A lot of those ISIS, those kids who got involved with ISIS was like in Minneapolis.

00:53:10.000 Yeah, or whatever.

00:53:10.000 Like those were they were like barely out of their teens, right?

00:53:13.000 One of the arguments I hear all the time is that especially with the like first generation Americans whose parents are, you know, of one culture and you're kind of torn between the two, they look for identity online and become radicalized.

00:53:23.000 And so that's a very difficult and sad story to peddle.

00:53:27.000 On the other hand, you know, ultimately, if the conclusion is radicalization, you have to treat that really seriously.

00:53:33.000 Yeah, it's not fun.

00:53:34.000 I waded through a lot of those cases.

00:53:36.000 But you know, people always forget, you're like, we focus on designated foreign terrorist organizations, right?

00:53:41.000 Because that's the federal law material hook for material support.

00:53:45.000 And it's not like we're just going after the KKK, right? 0.84

00:53:48.000 Like, obviously, I hate those guys.

00:53:50.000 But most of what they say is protected free speech, their right to even organize and convene together is protected under the Constitution.

00:53:58.000 That's the way it should be, right?

00:53:59.000 But there's a separation between what the KKK does and what ISIS and Al Qaeda and Hamas and all these other organizations, Hezbollah, all these organizations do.

00:54:08.000 You're talking about people who have done so much destruction to American and American allies that the U.S.

00:54:14.000 government was like, you're on the list for life.

00:54:19.000 That's it.

00:54:19.000 There's like almost no getting off of it.

00:54:22.000 Yeah.

00:54:22.000 I wonder what you think of the organizations that are saying, you know, they won't hire these students from Harvard.

00:54:28.000 I think Lear Hogan just did that.

00:54:29.000 Yeah.

00:54:30.000 Because some people say you shouldn't cancel them.

00:54:32.000 You shouldn't, like, there is an argument that that's not fair.

00:54:34.000 On the other hand, like, if you're hiring someone and they advocate for, you know, terrorist organizations that we have recognized since, like, what, 1997?

00:54:40.000 That's pretty serious.

00:54:41.000 Well, first of all, all these institutions are private.

00:54:44.000 They can do whatever the hell they want.

00:54:45.000 They can hire whoever they want.

00:54:46.000 They can come out and say, we don't want Harvard guys who had done X, Y, or Z. They could have done that going back.

00:54:50.000 So is it different when Larry Hogan says he won't hire from Harvard?

00:54:52.000 Well, if he's saying that, well, he's not governor anymore, so I don't know where he's hiring these people.

00:54:57.000 But if he's hiring them for government jobs somewhere, then that's going to be an issue.

00:55:02.000 But even if, say, JP Morgan, the world's largest bank, is like, yeah, we're not taking anybody from Harvard because of this nonsense.

00:55:08.000 Okay.

00:55:09.000 What are they going to do?

00:55:11.000 It's totally within their right to say that. 0.99

00:55:13.000 We're going to hire murderers. 0.73

00:55:14.000 Do you think it will change how academia- No, those guys are too far gone.

00:55:18.000 I mean, that's what I always think, that they're sort of lost institutions.

00:55:21.000 Yeah, but a lot of these students started writing letters being like, no, no, no, no, no, we're so sorry.

00:55:25.000 We didn't know.

00:55:26.000 And then you got people coming up being like, these students really didn't know it was in the letter.

00:55:29.000 We should be nice to them.

00:55:31.000 A lot of these students are marching.

00:55:33.000 They've not changed their minds.

00:55:34.000 These students go to Harvard. 0.99

00:55:36.000 They're not stupid. 1.00

00:55:38.000 Well, they are. 1.00

00:55:41.000 That would be their knee-jerk argument.

00:55:43.000 I went to Ivy League school.

00:55:45.000 I'm a brilliant person.

00:55:45.000 Isn't that a worse indictment?

00:55:46.000 That you go to Harvard but you didn't read this thing you were signing?

00:55:52.000 I'm not not hiring you because you said you support Hamas. 0.99

00:55:55.000 I'm not hiring you because you didn't read the damn Paper, right? 0.98

00:56:02.000 Or you're lying, that you did read it and now you're trying to be like, oh, no, no, I misunderstood. 0.99

00:56:06.000 Either way, all of those are very bad.

00:56:08.000 Yeah, it's not great.

00:56:10.000 It's just gonna get worse.

00:56:12.000 I think it's all connected.

00:56:13.000 Those institutions, like Harvard, Yale, whatever, any Ivy League school, is connected to this entire pipeline movement that we've been talking about.

00:56:20.000 When these people flip, when these people write books, when they go on TV.

00:56:24.000 Who's the person that just got kicked out of somewhere and is now like the Professor at Princeton or Yale.

00:56:32.000 It just happened this week.

00:56:33.000 I don't know.

00:56:34.000 Anyway, you get rewarded.

00:56:34.000 I'll think of it.

00:56:35.000 They're part of the reward system.

00:56:37.000 We're going to make you president of this institute.

00:56:40.000 We're going to give you a huge contract.

00:56:42.000 What's funny about this, there's a voice actress named Tara Strong and she's the voice of like Timmy Turner and Batgirl, Harley Quinn.

00:56:50.000 So a lot of people who are familiar with like DC Comics and cartoons have heard her voice.

00:56:54.000 She was on Drawn Together on Comedy Central.

00:56:56.000 She got fired from a show because she was tweeting in support of Israel.

00:57:01.000 So the show abruptly tweeted out that she would no longer be voicing one of their characters.

00:57:05.000 And then she starts losing it, like, I'm being, I'm finding out from the internet I'm being fired for being Jewish, things like this.

00:57:11.000 But what I find fascinating about many of these people, uh, Tara Strong has me blocked, right?

00:57:17.000 Because she's one of these woke leftists.

00:57:20.000 And despite the fact that we always calmly and rationally tried to explain to them that BLM and the far left want the eradication of Israel, they plug their ears and say, you're far right, you know, blah, blah, blah.

00:57:31.000 And then the reckoning comes for them.

00:57:34.000 As we've been warning about for so long, these people who think they can keep their head down and just side with the left will be left alone.

00:57:40.000 That's not true.

00:57:41.000 She gets fired because of this. 0.95

00:57:43.000 Unless you have no opinions whatsoever.

00:57:45.000 Like, literally, you would have to have no opinions whatsoever, because eventually... No, but then they ask you, you're staying quiet on this issue, you're staying quiet on this issue, why are you commenting on it?

00:57:52.000 That's what happened to Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:57:53.000 Exactly.

00:57:53.000 They kept demanding, he keeps speaking up, and he was like, I did, and they're like, more, and he's like, I've had it.

00:57:58.000 This has been, like, the number, because we've just been talking a lot, because everyone of the, all these celebrities have something to say about what's going on right now, and I'm like, you're not involved in this, like, you don't need to have an opinion on this stuff, it doesn't benefit you.

00:58:08.000 It's all of their publicists that have something to say, who are saying you really, really need to tweet about this.

00:58:13.000 Let me pull up this story from Rollingstone.com.

00:58:16.000 Hollywood stars, musicians call for release of Hamas hostages in letter to President Biden.

00:58:22.000 You know what the letter's basically saying?

00:58:24.000 It's saying Joe Biden declare war on Iran.

00:58:26.000 Okay, but let's read.

00:58:27.000 They say scores of Hollywood actors, musicians, comedians, and other entertainment figures signed an open letter to President Biden on Monday calling for the release of all hostages Hamas has taken.

00:58:36.000 Among the hundreds of signatories were Amy Schumer, Jerry Seinfeld, Justin Timberlake, Madonna, Katy Perry, Bradley Cooper.

00:58:40.000 The letter is part of a campaign called No Hostage Left Behind, which seeks the release of more than 200 hostages taken during the Hamas attack on Israel.

00:58:48.000 Now, my question is, what is the ask?

00:58:52.000 Hamas has hostages, so you wrote a letter to Joe Biden.

00:58:56.000 It's simple.

00:58:56.000 They're saying, go to war and do whatever you have to do.

00:59:02.000 The anti-war party is saying, go to war and do whatever you have to do.

00:59:06.000 You know, having run counterterrorism for President Trump and the hostage portfolios and bringing home 54 guys, we kind of know how to do it.

00:59:13.000 And this, this, this.

00:59:16.000 Americans have been taken.

00:59:17.000 Joe Biden has brought home none of them.

00:59:19.000 The Qatari government has brought home four Americans.

00:59:22.000 Wow.

00:59:23.000 Four.

00:59:24.000 And this, this warmongering machine, the liberals are saying, yeah, let's do another Afghanistan.

00:59:29.000 Hollywood hasn't been anti-war in a long time.

00:59:31.000 They've been anti-American for a long time, and pro-Islam during Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:59:38.000 Lots of movies bear that out.

00:59:39.000 But they're not anti-war.

00:59:41.000 Not in any sense of the word.

00:59:42.000 And right now, I think it's worse than that for a lot of this.

00:59:45.000 I don't even know if it's so much that they think that far ahead.

00:59:47.000 I think that they just know that these are issues that they need to have an opinion on because of their public persona.

00:59:52.000 It's a way to stay relevant, right?

00:59:54.000 They have to be commenting on it.

00:59:56.000 Which is worse, somehow. 0.98

00:59:58.000 It's ridiculous.

00:59:59.000 I mean, if you actually cared about anything like this, would you make it so, like, I need to post this tweet so people engage with it, so they see that I'm empathetic. 0.90

01:00:07.000 I mean, it's really ultimately narcissistic and about themselves.

01:00:09.000 I wonder, though, how much of Hollywood acknowledges that they're not anti-war anymore.

01:00:14.000 It's the same thing with the Democratic Party being like, We're countercultural!

01:00:17.000 And you're like, no, you're not.

01:00:18.000 You are the mainstream force and you market this all the time.

01:00:22.000 And yet you claim that you're sort of this weird underdog when you're obviously not.

01:00:25.000 Their brains don't process that at all.

01:00:27.000 They still believe that they're the counterculture.

01:00:29.000 They still believe that they're the party of anti-war.

01:00:31.000 They also believe that they're the party of the little guy rather than the party of big banks and big money.

01:00:38.000 But for a lot of it, like I've watched Every one of these celebrities have the most artfully written response that's supposed to appease both sides, only to watch them one by one get taken out instantly because they don't realize.

01:00:51.000 I think a lot of it is not being fully in touch with your audience.

01:00:54.000 It's like they don't realize the size of their platforms and just how actually diverse the amount of people.

01:01:00.000 Yeah, you're going to get soccer moms who like your stuff, but you're also going to get young leftists.

01:01:04.000 They don't realize that no matter what you say, It's not enough.

01:01:08.000 It will never be enough because the most vocal of either side will come at you no matter how neutral you remain.

01:01:15.000 The best thing you could do is not say anything, but they are too addicted to the attention and they need the rub.

01:01:21.000 And their self-importance.

01:01:22.000 They think the world needs their opinion, which is even challenging.

01:01:25.000 I mean, it's similar to a lot of Politicians who weigh on issues that they're actually probably not that well versed in, but they're saying, you know, if I don't get the right buzz out, then no one will pay attention to me again.

01:01:34.000 It's desperate.

01:01:35.000 I mean, you were talking about this before.

01:01:36.000 They ultimately all want the attention, and that's why I think people fight so hard to stay in office, right?

01:01:41.000 I mean, the fact that Dianne Feinstein stayed in office until she was actually dead is crazy.

01:01:48.000 I mean, that is not wanting to give up power.

01:01:51.000 Well, it's power and relevancy, that's all it is.

01:01:53.000 Wasn't her net worth like a hundred some million dollars?

01:01:55.000 No, no, it was like a billion. 0.96

01:01:57.000 Cause she married some crazy wealthy guy. 1.00

01:02:00.000 They were like private jet. 0.99

01:02:01.000 I mean, she married a crazy wealthy guy.

01:02:03.000 The other thing is like, so in the weeks leading up to her death, she had to sign over a power of attorney to her daughter because there's all kinds of legal disputes over the estate.

01:02:11.000 And they said, you know, she was really sick this past year.

01:02:13.000 She had shingles and some complications from that.

01:02:15.000 And so she needs the money for her medical bills. 1.00

01:02:17.000 I mean, It's such a strange thing where we're having someone who can't fight their own legal battles, but can still be brought to and from.

01:02:27.000 Nancy Pelosi's daughter was pushing her wheelchair around Congress, but she didn't need to retire.

01:02:33.000 No worries, she's going to stay.

01:02:34.000 Our country's sick. 1.00

01:02:35.000 That's disgusting! 0.99

01:02:36.000 That's the thing!

01:02:39.000 When Josie, the redhead libertarian, was here, she was saying she would want Ron Paul to be Speaker of the House, and I love Ron Paul.

01:02:44.000 I think he's great.

01:02:45.000 He is elderly. 0.99

01:02:46.000 Let him just rest and hang out with his kids and write interesting books, but do not make him do this dumb bureaucratic job in Washington until he dies. 0.98

01:02:55.000 This is not the culture I want. 0.91

01:02:57.000 And they're the ideological children of Ron Paul that are available.

01:03:00.000 Dave Smith exists.

01:03:02.000 We like Dave Smith.

01:03:03.000 Make him Speaker of the House.

01:03:04.000 And then we are again expanding this bench of people who can potentially lead the country in the right direction.

01:03:09.000 Let's just not make Ron Paul work until the end of time.

01:03:11.000 Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell needs to be rebooted every 15 minutes when he's giving a speech.

01:03:17.000 The fact that Mitt Romney is the first person to be like, I'll be in my 80s.

01:03:21.000 I should step down.

01:03:22.000 It's like the first sensible thing I've ever heard from him in my life.

01:03:24.000 I'm gonna throw a Game of Thrones reference out there.

01:03:26.000 You know, this is the circle.

01:03:28.000 This is the wheel that continuously spins, and Donald Trump was the force that broke the wheel. 0.87

01:03:33.000 He broke it for a while and robbed all the people of the Rolling Stone headlines, robbed these people of these important jobs and TV interviews and positions, exploited them for the corrupt actors that they are.

01:03:43.000 I mean, the insiders trading alone between Pelosi and Feinstein should be enough to send them to prison for an eternity.

01:03:50.000 Gotta get that Pelosi tracker out.

01:03:52.000 It's called Unusual Whales.

01:03:53.000 If you want to invest in stocks, just look at Unusual Whales. 1.00

01:04:00.000 They are literally citing the upcoming legislation that these guys are betting their gambles on and they track it all.

01:04:07.000 And you can go probably like five to seven percent return on there.

01:04:11.000 But they figured this out and now it'll probably spread where they'll be like, oh, most Americans have figured it out.

01:04:16.000 So, you know, we're going to make this legal.

01:04:18.000 But they still need to make money, right?

01:04:20.000 So they're still going to keep doing it.

01:04:24.000 They're never going to write themselves into law that says, oh, well, we can't do this.

01:04:27.000 Matt Gaetz and AOC teamed up trying to stop them from doing it.

01:04:32.000 The younger generation is saying like, hey, wait, maybe this isn't great.

01:04:35.000 It's like telling them to introduce term limits.

01:04:39.000 I'm optimistic because if you look at Matt Gaetz, the reason he's able to do what he does is because his donors are individuals on the internet.

01:04:47.000 He's got small donors.

01:04:49.000 He doesn't need to go to one man for a million dollars, he can go to a million men for one dollar.

01:04:53.000 And women. 0.98

01:04:54.000 So look, whatever you think about Matt, and I've known Matt a long time, about whether he's right to start this process or wrong to start this process.

01:05:01.000 No, I'm just saying, whatever your position is, I agree, but I'm saying, He was the only one that I know of that could go to the well of the floor in the House of Representatives and announce to the world that I have not accepted one dollar from one lobbyist or one defense industrial complex organization.

01:05:18.000 Mind you, Matt has one of the biggest Air Force bases we have in his home district!

01:05:22.000 Wow.

01:05:23.000 So for him to go out and say that, and then the chorus of boos comes in, and his response to me was perfect. 0.83

01:05:30.000 Every single one of those people booing took a six and seven figure paycheck to their super PACs, maxed out donations, parties in DC, had them on their jets and their planes, and they were caught red-handed with what Donald Trump had caught them with, being the biggest hypocrites who are in charge of running our democracy.

01:05:47.000 And I think he's excoriated for it now.

01:05:50.000 Because we're in this position where, we'll probably just have Tim Poole become speaker, but we'll get to that.

01:05:54.000 We're in this position where, you know, they're like, it's a rudderless government.

01:05:58.000 I was like, how, how well was it steered when McCarthy was- It wasn't great, to be fair.

01:06:04.000 You kicked the debt ceiling, you were gonna give us another CR, these oversight investigations that were supposed to promise the, you know, the end of time, were running, were being run by wet noodles, and you weren't empowering them to enforce their subpoenas.

01:06:16.000 And now we have an exposure.

01:06:18.000 I think it's a big civics education.

01:06:19.000 You have people paying attention.

01:06:21.000 Of course, the left is going to come and be like, the Republicans are ruining the governor.

01:06:23.000 But hey, right now they can't pass a CR or an omnibus because they can't fund war either.

01:06:31.000 They can't fund a war.

01:06:31.000 They can't write a check to the Ukraine.

01:06:33.000 I'm seeing a lot of these conservatives on Twitter be like, what did we really gain from Matt Gaetz's stunt?

01:06:38.000 And like, why did he do this?

01:06:39.000 And I'm just sitting back like, you know, All the libertarians are laughing because now there's stagnation and there's no more wasteful spending because they can't.

01:06:48.000 They can't write a check?

01:06:49.000 It's not what we gained, it's what Zelensky lost.

01:06:51.000 Dude, have you even heard of that guy?

01:06:54.000 like about happy. No, he is so mad. He's begging. He's not happy being the side piece. No, no.

01:06:59.000 After all this stuff, like after the October 7 stuff happened in Israel, he was like putting

01:07:04.000 out statements like, yes, we too have suffered. Don't forget that we need some money here.

01:07:10.000 It's that friend who like every time something bad happens to you, it's like, yes, something

01:07:15.000 worse happened to me. You know, what would be a good way to get Ukraine and I'm not saying there's 1.00

01:07:19.000 people over there that don't need help. And obviously Russia's attacking a lot of zones.

01:07:23.000 But when you go on the interwebs and you type in like Kiev nightclub, it's like Miami beach. 0.85

01:07:29.000 Have you seen these freaking parties? Like my friends have gone over there,

01:07:32.000 do a bunch of work over there. And they're like, What wars not like what are you talking about?

01:07:37.000 You can't have that going on and ask the world for five hundred billion dollars It is funny because I have like friends that skate in both Russia and Ukraine and if you're a hockey guy No, it's well, I mean hockey too, but that's it's skating is like aggression But like, if you were going by their social media posts, like their story posts, it's like the ones who are in Ukraine are posting about fundraising for their, you know, fundraising for the military, but then you see their posts and they're just out skating at the skate park, and I'm like, how is that happening right now?

01:08:08.000 No, no, no, this is something people don't get.

01:08:09.000 I talk about it a bit.

01:08:10.000 People don't understand that countries in war are not every, every, every place in this country is at war.

01:08:16.000 Not total warfare.

01:08:17.000 No, but this is a story everyone's heard me say ad nauseum.

01:08:21.000 In Egypt, during the second revolution, two blocks away from Tahrir Square, where the revolution is taking place, there's a guy at a McDonald's watching a soccer match.

01:08:30.000 There was a casino in the Hilton Hotel.

01:08:32.000 You were not allowed to enter if you were an Egyptian citizen, because it's... What's the word? 1.00

01:08:36.000 Is haram the right word?

01:08:37.000 Like, it's a violation.

01:08:39.000 Unclean.

01:08:40.000 Tourists were gambling in there, playing roulette, craps, blackjack.

01:08:43.000 Yeah, of course.

01:08:44.000 Two blocks away from a revolution where Apache helicopters are flying over and there's APCs, people are shooting at each other in the streets, and blocks away, nobody cares.

01:08:54.000 And these things become normalized, right?

01:08:56.000 I mean, think about the protests in Paris this year.

01:08:58.000 There were so many videos of, like, these people having dinner at, like, whatever cute little cafe, and meanwhile something's on fire, and someone's throwing something through a window.

01:09:05.000 Like, if you've been in conflict for a year, at a certain point, you know, Zelensky's not gonna keep you from the bars.

01:09:10.000 Is this a video of the girl doing a TikTok dance while a military coup is going on behind her?

01:09:15.000 No, that's on Myanmar.

01:09:17.000 That's actually to bring it to Burma.

01:09:18.000 There you go.

01:09:19.000 She was actually a yoga thing or something like that. 1.00

01:09:22.000 It's even better.

01:09:23.000 You call her sir?

01:09:23.000 You know her?

01:09:24.000 No, no, no.

01:09:25.000 It's just like, it was great.

01:09:26.000 That's very current year.

01:09:27.000 Yeah.

01:09:29.000 I know Tim is feeling impassioned about this subject.

01:09:32.000 If that conflict has been going on for actual decades, you just live with it.

01:09:36.000 Yeah, eventually.

01:09:37.000 Alright, I'm gonna, let's shatter some hearts.

01:09:39.000 Oh, you're gonna do it.

01:09:40.000 Here we go, from the New York Post.

01:09:41.000 UFC partners with Bud Light as Embattled Beer tries to fight off Dylan Mulvaney backlash.

01:09:47.000 I don't understand this.

01:09:48.000 Bud Light must be paying them so much money.

01:09:52.000 I'll break it down very simply. 0.98

01:09:53.000 Bud Light, they're having a meeting being like, okay, everybody's calling us names and saying we're weak and effeminate and gay and whatever. 0.96

01:10:01.000 We need to sponsor the manliest thing imaginable. 0.97

01:10:05.000 How about MMA?

01:10:08.000 They go to UFC.

01:10:09.000 I bet the first phone call they had with UFC, UFC is like, are you joking?

01:10:13.000 And wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, don't hang up, don't hang up.

01:10:15.000 We'll give you a hundred million dollars." 0.58

01:10:17.000 And they're like, that's not a lot of money to UFC.

01:10:20.000 That's the starting bid.

01:10:24.000 I'd like to see what the price tag was.

01:10:24.000 You're right.

01:10:26.000 UFC is owned by Endeavor, right?

01:10:28.000 So Endeavor is this massive conglomerate that just bought WWE as well.

01:10:33.000 So they own both of these companies.

01:10:34.000 It's all Ari Emanuel.

01:10:36.000 A hundred million dollars wouldn't even move the needle for them.

01:10:38.000 And I just want to say, I know we were critiquing people for not standing by their values at the top of the show.

01:10:43.000 I thought we were trying to get rid of the fratty culture around Bud Light.

01:10:48.000 Let me read this.

01:10:50.000 Anheuser-Busch and Bud Light were UFC's original beer sponsors more than 15 years ago.

01:10:54.000 I'm proud to announce we are back in business together.

01:10:57.000 Dana White said in a statement, there are many reasons why I chose to go with Anheuser-Busch and Bud Light.

01:11:01.000 Most importantly, because I feel we are very aligned when it comes to our core values and what the UFC brand stands for.

01:11:09.000 I'm looking forward to all of the incredible things we will do in the years ahead.

01:11:12.000 What he's really saying is, bro, the paycheck was huge!

01:11:16.000 You would not believe all the zeros.

01:11:18.000 I mean, Bill Mulvaney vs. Fallon Fox will go on this year.

01:11:20.000 The values they share are the amount of zeros on the back of the checks.

01:11:23.000 Yes, so many zeros you cannot believe.

01:11:25.000 The values he's referring to are monetary values.

01:11:30.000 I don't know.

01:11:30.000 This is a good picture too where he's just like, look guys, I just had to say.

01:11:34.000 They had to make a longer check.

01:11:36.000 There were so many zeros.

01:11:37.000 Also, I mean, Bud Light's going to do whatever Dana White asks now, right?

01:11:41.000 Is Dylan Mulvaney going to be the card girl or whatever?

01:11:43.000 No, there's no way that they repartner with Dylan Mulvaney.

01:11:47.000 But I, this is, what did Bud Light try to sponsor?

01:11:51.000 Harley Davidson?

01:11:52.000 It didn't work?

01:11:52.000 No, nothing worked.

01:11:54.000 Do they really think?

01:11:56.000 I gotta be honest, I'm willing to bet there's a lot of MMA guys who are gonna be like, F. No.

01:12:02.000 Pissed.

01:12:03.000 Yeah. 0.56

01:12:04.000 Here's what I imagine.

01:12:04.000 Pissed.

01:12:06.000 You're gonna hear press conferences with some fighters, and they're gonna rag on Bud Light.

01:12:10.000 It's gonna be worse for Bud Light by trying to do this.

01:12:12.000 For whatever reason, MMA guys tend to be particularly based, as it were, or red-pilled.

01:12:17.000 Have you seen the entrance that Donald Trump made at the last UFC fight in Las Vegas?

01:12:24.000 Dana White and Mark Wahlberg both said they've never heard anything like that. 0.57

01:12:29.000 Do you think Donald Trump is gonna walk back down hand-in-hand with Dana White holding a freaking Bud Light?

01:12:35.000 Like, you're right, those fighters, I know a lot of them.

01:12:38.000 I live in Vegas, my buddy has one of the most successful MMA training centers and owns like half the fighters in the UFC.

01:12:44.000 These guys are not gonna tolerate this, and they have massive social media following.

01:12:49.000 But it's not just about even personal conviction.

01:12:52.000 If you're someone with a big presence, and they're telling you to stand in front of a Bud Light, you know, marquee or whatever, you're gonna be like, no!

01:13:01.000 I'm gonna get roasted! 0.97

01:13:02.000 Are you nuts? But then they're gonna say, oh, you're under contract, so you gotta do it. 0.96

01:13:06.000 It's gonna get weird. Yeah, but MMA dudes are not the kind of guys to be like,

01:13:11.000 no, what contract? They're the kind of guys that are gonna be like, I'll rip it up in front of

01:13:14.000 your face. Yeah, they don't care. There's no second UFC.

01:13:16.000 They can't be like, I'm switching leagues and I'm going over here, right? It's all owned by

01:13:20.000 There's the UFC, there's the PFL, they're all owned by the one thing.

01:13:20.000 the one thing.

01:13:24.000 But look, you look at all these industries.

01:13:26.000 We were talking earlier about like Jenna Ellis pleading guilty and they're all caving and bending the knee. 1.00

01:13:30.000 UFC, not even just MMA in general, has a very high density of individuals who will tell you to shove it.

01:13:37.000 Yeah.

01:13:37.000 But I think it's kind of obvious, like, these are guys who work really, really hard.

01:13:41.000 They're top level athletes, but they're also very, very capable people who are not worried about what you think you can take from them.

01:13:46.000 Yeah.

01:13:47.000 I'm wondering how many MMA fighters go, I don't really care about that.

01:13:50.000 You'll probably get some.

01:13:51.000 What's like the big UFC chat space?

01:13:53.000 I would love to see what they're posting already.

01:13:55.000 Some of these top fighters, like if you look at the top, like 10 fighters to see if any one of those guys have put something out on, uh, on, uh, Dylan, I can't believe this is a headline.

01:14:03.000 What would their contracts look like, though?

01:14:05.000 If it wasn't Bud Light, if it was a monster or whatever, are they not allowed to disparage the brand?

01:14:10.000 What does it look like?

01:14:11.000 There's usually non-disparagement clauses, or you have to wear the shorts.

01:14:15.000 Are these guys going to walk in with Bud Light on the floor of the Octagon?

01:14:20.000 Well, it's a big sponsorship.

01:14:22.000 Also, it's gonna be such terrible optics, like these guys grappling on the ground over Bud Light.

01:14:26.000 Like, I don't like it.

01:14:27.000 That's gross.

01:14:27.000 I mean, just picture these optics.

01:14:29.000 Like, you have just taken a monster defecation on Bud Light for the last year.

01:14:34.000 There is also, there's a large proponent of that industry that's going to be very normie, that isn't gonna know what's going on with the- Oh, you think so?

01:14:42.000 I think that's what they're betting.

01:14:43.000 I think they're trying to see if this is- I think that there's plenty of normie- I think that we fall into a little bit of tunnel vision here.

01:14:49.000 I will say the Bud Light and the Target back-to-back boycotts were so big.

01:14:54.000 I mean, I know non-political people who are really mad about this.

01:14:56.000 And so they are gambling that... About Target?

01:14:58.000 Yeah, both of them.

01:14:59.000 But the thing is, they're gambling that these issues from earlier in the year have been memory hold.

01:15:04.000 And I just don't think that's the case.

01:15:06.000 I think especially with the people in this particular industry, they remember, they oppose it.

01:15:11.000 I mean, No, and the UFC world writ large.

01:15:13.000 I mean, you gotta, you're right.

01:15:15.000 I think in any other sports it would be diluted, but the UFC world, I mean, you gotta pull up the video of Trump.

01:15:20.000 All of those people went, ate stuff.

01:15:22.000 It was a hundred million dollars.

01:15:24.000 No way.

01:15:25.000 That's it?

01:15:25.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:15:26.000 I mean, wow.

01:15:27.000 I'm just, I'm looking at tweets.

01:15:28.000 They're all in on it.

01:15:29.000 People are tweeting a hundred million dollars.

01:15:31.000 Maybe the most hilariously dystopian thing I saw this year is watching like during the playoffs for baseball.

01:15:37.000 There's like a giant Lockheed Martin sign behind, like in center field during the Astros. 0.87

01:15:44.000 It was just ridiculous.

01:15:46.000 $100 million.

01:15:47.000 And how much stock does Dana White personally own in Bud Light?

01:15:51.000 If it goes back up, what does he get out of it personally?

01:15:53.000 My understanding is that if he bought stock in Anheuser-Busch before this deal, that's insider trading.

01:15:58.000 But what if they gave it to him as part of the deal?

01:16:01.000 Right.

01:16:02.000 You know what I mean?

01:16:02.000 So now- Yeah, well, actually, no, not him individually.

01:16:05.000 So if it's a $100 million deal, if they cut him in on the side, I think that's also insider trading.

01:16:10.000 Yeah.

01:16:11.000 I'm just wondering, because, like, if that does seem low, $100 million, so I have to assume that he's personally profiting in some way.

01:16:16.000 Like, I buy that the people that are there live at the event would be that way.

01:16:21.000 And they ditched Modelo.

01:16:21.000 Yeah, they did.

01:16:22.000 We like Modelo!

01:16:23.000 Yeah, we do.

01:16:26.000 That's crazy.

01:16:27.000 It's the biggest sponsorship in UFC history.

01:16:30.000 Target's the next one, guys.

01:16:31.000 I tell ya, like he said, we share a lot of values, and that value is monetary.

01:16:36.000 I mean, Bellator's probably excited about this.

01:16:38.000 They're definitely going to get some fighters who are going to be like, ah, screw this, I'm going to go to Bellator.

01:16:40.000 Yeah, yeah, you're right.

01:16:41.000 Yeah, honestly.

01:16:42.000 That's the thing.

01:16:43.000 If they have an alternative, you're potentially losing good fighters to that.

01:16:46.000 It just depends on how... Like, that's why I want to know about the contracts.

01:16:49.000 If they can't get out of it, they have to... They're all owned by the same... Bellator, UFC, and PFL are all the same owners.

01:16:55.000 But they're not going to have to wear, like, the jerseys or the shorts if they change.

01:16:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:16:59.000 Even if it's ultimately owned by the same... Well, who's going to be the first guy to wear a Bud Light fight suit?

01:17:04.000 Bud Light shorts.

01:17:05.000 They're gonna need a meme to high hell, I can tell you that.

01:17:07.000 But I really think it's the same owner.

01:17:08.000 They're just gonna go to the other bouts.

01:17:10.000 Why would they drive this to Crown?

01:17:12.000 They're the only one sponsoring Bud Light and let's say Bellator isn't, then why wouldn't

01:17:14.000 they just go fight Bellator?

01:17:15.000 Yeah.

01:17:16.000 Maybe the pot, the cat, I guess the money's different.

01:17:17.000 The pot's different.

01:17:18.000 Yeah, the cut is way less.

01:17:21.000 But would it change if more people were in the league?

01:17:23.000 Yeah, that's what I mean.

01:17:24.000 What if all the viewers are like, I'm not going to watch UFC anymore because of this?

01:17:27.000 Yeah, forget this Trump fraud stuff.

01:17:28.000 Tell us about this, guys.

01:17:29.000 You'd have to upend, like, you'd have to get all the tier one fighters out of the UFC, dump them down into PFL and Bellator, where most of the amateur fights are, and you'd have to reorient the, I mean, Dana White owns it, so, well, he doesn't, they own it, but Dana runs it.

01:17:42.000 They're not going to change what a multi-billion dollar industry I mean, maybe if this Bud Light thing backfires, but… $100 million just seems small.

01:17:51.000 I don't know why, but it seems small to me for that type of investment.

01:17:54.000 It doesn't seem like enough.

01:17:56.000 So maybe they really do share values, and that's terrifying, right?

01:17:58.000 What values are we getting from Bud Light right now?

01:18:00.000 Man, Tim Kass could have sponsored it for that kind of money.

01:18:03.000 Yeah, no way.

01:18:05.000 You don't want to have your face on all of the UFC's jerseys and stuff?

01:18:09.000 Yeah, if I had $100 million!

01:18:10.000 Geez, know anybody?

01:18:13.000 No.

01:18:13.000 I mean- Bud Light.

01:18:14.000 If Bud Light came to me and offered me 100 million dollars, I would say no.

01:18:19.000 That's what I was talking about earlier with, like, these corrupt people in Congress that make all this money. 0.80

01:18:23.000 I'm like, I don't- I don't- I don't understand it.

01:18:26.000 I mean, at a certain point, like, maybe it's just, like, a leftist worldview?

01:18:32.000 I don't know.

01:18:33.000 At what point does Bud Light try to get on Public Square?

01:18:35.000 That's what I really- In five years when Public Square is bigger than Amazon and anyone who's not on that platform is struggling to get sales because they're considered fringe and weird, Bud Light then apologizes and pledges to support American values and family values.

01:18:53.000 You could never trust them to do any of that.

01:18:55.000 Tucker just put in a million on Public Square.

01:18:58.000 A Public Square put a million on Tucker.

01:18:59.000 Yeah, sorry.

01:19:00.000 I know, it's amazing.

01:19:01.000 It's a smart move.

01:19:02.000 A brilliant move.

01:19:03.000 Tucker's got a massive show with a massive presence and now Public Square gets the sole sponsorship for a million bucks.

01:19:07.000 It's a good deal.

01:19:08.000 For them, it's a great deal.

01:19:10.000 I mean, Public Square is the most important culture war business and application right now.

01:19:16.000 You download an app that shows you the businesses that agree with your values.

01:19:20.000 That's it.

01:19:20.000 Yeah.

01:19:21.000 No question.

01:19:21.000 It's incredible.

01:19:22.000 And it's so amazing that Michael saw the need and filled it.

01:19:26.000 I mean, that's what I wish more people would do.

01:19:27.000 They've had a rough ride though.

01:19:29.000 They came in high and it's pretty down right now in the stock world.

01:19:33.000 Do you think they're recovering?

01:19:35.000 Yeah, they came in at like 30.

01:19:36.000 They're at like 5 now.

01:19:37.000 Public squares?

01:19:38.000 Well, that's normal though.

01:19:40.000 That's a big drop from an IPO inside of a year.

01:19:42.000 Yeah, but Facebook went from like, what, 45 to like, 9?

01:19:45.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:19:46.000 That's why everyone's always like, be careful when buying at an IPO, because it always drops off.

01:19:51.000 They sell it, they dump a whole bunch and it falls down.

01:19:53.000 Yeah, but you know, it is what it is.

01:19:56.000 My concern is...

01:19:59.000 How are we winning the culture war, and what are we doing?

01:20:01.000 And we had Coral Benjamin on the show, and he was like, the right's not organized, we're not doing anything, and then I'm like, Public Square does this, and his eyebrows go up, and he's like, oh, that's actually brilliant.

01:20:08.000 Yeah, there are companies out there, they're just, it's hard to break through.

01:20:12.000 There's a lot of companies that see the world that way.

01:20:15.000 There's cell phone companies, there's coffee companies, there's payment processing companies, and all these people do it.

01:20:19.000 It's just, it's a beast.

01:20:21.000 Someone already superchatted saying they cancelled their UFC Fight Pass subscription.

01:20:24.000 Oof.

01:20:25.000 It is also hard to keep the tally going.

01:20:27.000 A lot of these companies, if a larger company then offers you a ton of money.

01:20:32.000 Jeremy's fighting championships.

01:20:36.000 JFC.

01:20:37.000 I'm gonna text Jeremy Boring right now and be like, bro, can you launch an MMA?

01:20:44.000 His brand is crazier and crazier and they all have the chocolate bars with them.

01:20:49.000 I'm imagining like his assistant runs into his office right now and they're like, they're like, Mr. Boring, Mr. Boring, and they hold up the paper and he's like, wait, does this work or does this not work?

01:21:00.000 He's like, who here's in the best shape?

01:21:01.000 We need to film an ad right now.

01:21:03.000 Yeah.

01:21:03.000 What do you think?

01:21:04.000 Does this take for UFC?

01:21:05.000 Does this work or does this not work?

01:21:08.000 Oh, no, I think they're going to eat it.

01:21:09.000 Well, look, no matter what happens, there is going to be controversy.

01:21:13.000 The fact that we're even talking about it and people are saying they're canceling because of it.

01:21:17.000 There's already controversy.

01:21:18.000 It may not be that big of a deal, because the average person who watches MMA or whatever might just be like, dude, I don't care about that stuff.

01:21:26.000 I want to watch the champion fight, the champ fight the contender or whatever.

01:21:30.000 And so we'll see.

01:21:32.000 But I kind of think a lot of UFC guys are very vocal.

01:21:37.000 Politically, they don't care.

01:21:39.000 They believe what they believe, and they are not weak people. 0.99

01:21:42.000 There's a high density of individuals that are in MMA that are just like, I will say what I believe, screw you.

01:21:47.000 I don't think it'll be the boycott that we saw with Bud Light itself, because Bud Light, you can pick alternatives, right?

01:21:52.000 If there's really no alternative, you'll see there are people who are like, look, I like this.

01:21:55.000 I work hard.

01:21:56.000 I want to watch the fights.

01:21:57.000 Like, I'm not going to buy it.

01:21:59.000 Are they going to have other beers there?

01:22:01.000 I don't know.

01:22:02.000 When this was going down, I went to, I spent a lot of time in Nashville and I'm a big country music fan, and I went to a Luke Combs concert out in Titan Stadium.

01:22:12.000 Like, you know, 55,000 people.

01:22:15.000 And they were still under contract with Bud Light, whoever was putting on that show.

01:22:19.000 When I left the arena, I couldn't find... When I walked in, I couldn't find one person holding a can of Bud Light.

01:22:25.000 They were drinking everything else that they could get their hands on.

01:22:27.000 When I left the arena, there were truckloads of Bud Light stations around the arena that had not sold, like, more than 3% of their beers.

01:22:36.000 I mean, they were just stacked to the ceiling.

01:22:39.000 So if they did that in country music in Nashville, like, it's not a far stretch that they don't buy their stuff here.

01:22:44.000 Now, I guess it doesn't matter since they already have the money.

01:22:47.000 What happens if a fighter comes out and right when he comes out he goes, don't buy Bud Light?

01:22:51.000 Somebody's gonna say that.

01:22:52.000 I know!

01:22:52.000 Some dude is getting up and saying that.

01:22:55.000 And Bud Light's gonna be like, wow, this made things worse.

01:22:57.000 Actually, there's a massive fight in Madison Square Garden in two weeks.

01:23:01.000 UFC's going there.

01:23:04.000 Supposedly, there's going to be some appearances from some celebrities.

01:23:08.000 Like Dylan Mulvaney?

01:23:09.000 Oh, interesting.

01:23:09.000 So we'll see how this... We're going to know how this shakes out, I'm telling you, in like two weeks.

01:23:14.000 It's just... Bud Light has had a marketing catastrophe since this started and they've never figured out what to do about it because they could have just apologized.

01:23:24.000 Yeah, we got it wrong.

01:23:26.000 See you later.

01:23:26.000 Sorry, guys.

01:23:28.000 This was a young marketing millennial.

01:23:30.000 We apologize.

01:23:32.000 We're not going to do it again.

01:23:33.000 Instead, they've been trying- Triple, quadruple down.

01:23:36.000 Oh, they've been sponsoring Pride events.

01:23:37.000 But then all of, what was this, the gay bars in Chicago were like, we're not buying that beer. 1.00

01:23:41.000 You're not supporting Dylan Mulvaney enough.

01:23:45.000 Yep, they got double out.

01:23:46.000 That's right.

01:23:46.000 And all of the leftists who weren't buying it anyways are just going to not buy it anyways, because they weren't buying it in the first place.

01:23:53.000 It was a dumb move. 0.68

01:23:54.000 And like I said, their marketing executive said that thing, I came in to fix the fratty reputation. 0.97

01:24:00.000 I'm sorry, but I learned about UFC with guys who were in fraternities, that they were the ones who were playing it every Saturday.

01:24:05.000 Do you think that this is going to be forgotten?

01:24:09.000 This has become every marketing department.

01:24:12.000 In a lot of American companies now is they're chasing this phantom audience that they believe that they can expand their portfolio on, right?

01:24:20.000 They think that there's this magical group.

01:24:22.000 It's happened in comics.

01:24:23.000 It's happened in films.

01:24:24.000 And they always think there's this magical group of people.

01:24:26.000 First of all, they don't have money.

01:24:28.000 The people that they're actually looking to buy stuff for, they don't have money anyways.

01:24:32.000 And they go looking for it and then they end up destroying their own market share by insulting the people that they actually make it for in the first place.

01:24:39.000 But then these guys come in on the other side.

01:24:41.000 I don't know if you saw.

01:24:42.000 I can't remember the name of the company.

01:24:42.000 It's like Conservative Beer of America or whatever.

01:24:45.000 It's ultra-right.

01:24:45.000 Ultra-right.

01:24:47.000 Exploded in sales.

01:24:49.000 Yeah, it's like two million dollars or something.

01:24:51.000 Yeah.

01:24:52.000 Well, that's why I said Jeremy's Fighting Championship or whatever.

01:24:55.000 Whatever it is he stands for.

01:24:56.000 Jeremy Boring's got a chocolate bar company.

01:24:59.000 We got to order more of those, by the way.

01:25:00.000 Everybody really loved them.

01:25:01.000 But people didn't like the one with nuts.

01:25:03.000 They liked the ones with no nuts.

01:25:04.000 Because it's he, him, she. 0.97

01:25:05.000 I want to make a dark chocolate bar.

01:25:07.000 That's what I'm waiting for.

01:25:08.000 I'm sure that name won't be offensive at all.

01:25:11.000 I'd love to see what he comes up with, you know?

01:25:13.000 It'll be fantastic.

01:25:14.000 Let's just find out.

01:25:15.000 It is always funny, though, every time a new product has to come out, it's like Patriot Water.

01:25:19.000 And some new product needs to be... Stars and Stripes cereal?

01:25:23.000 Hey, that's not a bad idea!

01:25:24.000 Okay, but if anyone makes that, I deserve a cut.

01:25:26.000 I think it was Ryan Long who did that video where it's like left-wing podcast sponsors versus right-wing.

01:25:32.000 Patriot Dirt.

01:25:33.000 The left-wing one was like, welcome to the anti-establishment, anti-government podcast sponsored by Monsanto.

01:25:40.000 And then on the right, it was like, Patriot water!

01:25:43.000 It's water, but for Patriots!

01:25:44.000 And the other ones are all MREs and instant food.

01:25:49.000 Left-wing podcasts all have massive sponsors from McDonald's, big corporations.

01:25:54.000 Ryan Long doesn't miss.

01:25:56.000 Oh yeah, no, he had that really good one about Israel-Palestine.

01:25:58.000 That was brilliant.

01:25:59.000 Actor doesn't know who to support.

01:26:01.000 And another one of his that's been going around again recently is the winner.

01:26:05.000 He's like, I sell the footage to Fox and I sell the footage to CNN.

01:26:08.000 If you play it backwards, it looks fine.

01:26:11.000 No, no, he's like I once sent pick a video to Fox News of protesters picking up litter and I said don't worry if you play it backwards there They need Ryan Long to come in and be like this is how you respond to Ashley St.

01:26:24.000 Clair's boot thing They need a Canadian to come in and fix it. 1.00

01:26:27.000 They need some foreign nationals consulting.

01:26:29.000 So this is the point I made about Trump is that here's that one clip where he's like They're too bright, they're making me look orange!

01:26:36.000 And everyone busts out laughing.

01:26:38.000 You can't make fun of Trump because Trump's in on the joke.

01:26:41.000 DeSantis' campaign doesn't get that, or they're intentionally sabotaging him. 1.00

01:26:45.000 So they're just like, don't make fun of me, you're stupid, you're dumb. 1.00

01:26:47.000 It's like, wow. 1.00

01:26:48.000 None of it's landing, none of it's sticking.

01:26:50.000 It's just, his campaign's over.

01:26:52.000 I mean, I think so, yeah.

01:26:53.000 I don't know, but I will watch that debate between him and Newsom.

01:26:57.000 Maybe Bud Light can sponsor that debate.

01:27:01.000 I'm more interested in whether or not a UFC fighter comes out and says, yo, what?

01:27:06.000 You know what?

01:27:08.000 Let me text a few right now.

01:27:09.000 Yeah.

01:27:10.000 We'd like some exclusive comments from them on air.

01:27:12.000 That'd be great.

01:27:14.000 I mean, my question again goes back to contracts.

01:27:16.000 Like, what are they allowed to say?

01:27:17.000 And I would be interested if If in violation of their contract, potentially giving up a lot of money, they say something anyways, because I think that is what we need.

01:27:24.000 People who are saying, I don't like this.

01:27:26.000 And I didn't forget why we were boycotting Bud Light in the first place.

01:27:29.000 I still remember why we were not buying things at Target.

01:27:32.000 I mean, that's the fact of the boycott.

01:27:34.000 It's difficult for them to last forever, especially if there's no alternative.

01:27:38.000 On the other hand, let's not forget why we went into them in the first place.

01:27:41.000 It was earlier this year.

01:27:43.000 We can't have ceded the ground so quickly.

01:27:45.000 A big part of it, though, is in Dana White's mind is the idea that they waited, like, a sufficient amount of time has passed, and trying it now is not the same as trying it in August or trying it in September.

01:27:58.000 For sure.

01:27:58.000 I mean, I don't think he would have touched it in July, right?

01:28:00.000 Yeah.

01:28:00.000 But on the other hand, it makes me wonder about the money, and it makes me wonder about his potential other dealings.

01:28:07.000 I think it does not go well.

01:28:09.000 Yeah, there's no way, right?

01:28:11.000 This is not- I can't wait now to get back home and be like, WTF, what are you- And all of these fighters that you know can be like, Bud Light, really? 0.96

01:28:17.000 Gross. 0.95

01:28:18.000 Yeah. 0.93

01:28:18.000 They already hated it. 0.93

01:28:20.000 Yeah.

01:28:20.000 So now what, are they gonna be forced to paint it on their face?

01:28:23.000 Like when they walk out?

01:28:24.000 Yeah.

01:28:25.000 Bud Light flags, Bud Light cups, they're gonna- it's- we'll know, couple weeks.

01:28:30.000 Huge fight, Madison Square Garden.

01:28:32.000 And that's crazy.

01:28:33.000 Yeah, we'll see what Strickland and Covington and all those people have to say about it, too, because they've been pretty pretty outright about their opinions.

01:28:39.000 So they're not, as Tim said, they ain't shutting up.

01:28:41.000 No, definitely not.

01:28:43.000 I mean, unless they are made to shut up.

01:28:45.000 That's what I come back to.

01:28:46.000 There are always obligations.

01:28:48.000 I mean, yeah, but like these guys are just they don't even they don't they don't care about the contract.

01:28:52.000 Here, let's see what the CFC fighters said.

01:28:54.000 Oh my gosh, breaking news live on TimCast.

01:28:57.000 Does he know you're on air right now?

01:28:58.000 Are we allowed to say who it is?

01:28:59.000 Oh no, I'm not going to say who it is. 0.93

01:29:01.000 What the heck?

01:29:02.000 I just said we were having breaking news. 0.87

01:29:03.000 What did they say?

01:29:04.000 The fighters don't know about it and they're pissed.

01:29:07.000 So they found out with everyone else, they are the Sophie Turner to Joe Jonas.

01:29:10.000 It's kind of like, yeah, how apparently all big news breaks nowadays.

01:29:13.000 You don't tell your own people, you just tell the nature of the media.

01:29:15.000 This came out a couple hours ago, this news broke, and wow, Tuesday evening is like the best possible day for Bud Light.

01:29:25.000 It's maximum PR day, Tuesday.

01:29:28.000 Friday and Saturday, Saturday is like just- Things get lost.

01:29:30.000 Unheard of to release something on Saturday.

01:29:32.000 Friday at five.

01:29:34.000 Friday at 5 is where you bury it.

01:29:35.000 But Bud Light was like, and we want you to announce Tuesday evening.

01:29:39.000 This is a great idea.

01:29:40.000 In the middle of a war, in the middle of, you know.

01:29:42.000 He's like, could we soften it to Thursday at 10?

01:29:45.000 They were confident it was a Tuesday.

01:29:46.000 I just can't imagine though.

01:29:48.000 Can you imagine like, this is a great idea.

01:29:50.000 Dana White says yes, and everyone will not think about it.

01:29:53.000 Well, they're just going to see the power of USC probably fade just a touch here on this one because they might have the golden touch, but not the Bud Light golden touch.

01:30:01.000 It ain't coming back.

01:30:02.000 I'm sorry.

01:30:02.000 It's a tall order.

01:30:03.000 I mean, and the thing with the Bud Light boycotts is there are tons of people who work, you know, in their breweries or whatever else who are normal people who were swept up in a national controversy that I'm sure they didn't actually want to be a part of, right?

01:30:14.000 I mean, this is corporate leadership betraying the actual workers.

01:30:18.000 They're like Dillon and Zhu.

01:30:19.000 Maybe Bud Light can sponsor Hamas. 0.96

01:30:23.000 I'll read the Super Chats more in detail, but I'll just paraphrase one saying that a lot of these fighters don't make a lot of money.

01:30:30.000 Dana White bringing in this money could help get these guys paid more, and I'm just like, look, if you're a pro, if you've got sponsors, Let's say you've got five sponsors.

01:30:39.000 You've got companies A, B, C, D, and E. And then you decide to add on Bud Light.

01:30:45.000 And now you have a big Bud Light patch on your jacket or your pants or whatever.

01:30:50.000 Those other companies are gonna be like, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude.

01:30:52.000 Out.

01:30:53.000 We're done. 0.99

01:30:53.000 We're cutting you off. 0.99

01:30:54.000 I mean, look.

01:30:56.000 If we sponsored something and then someone decided to put Bud Light next to it, I'd be like, no way, dude.

01:31:03.000 We don't want to be associated with that.

01:31:04.000 We're not going to sponsor if you're working with them because it's just like, we don't agree with their values.

01:31:09.000 It's bad across the board.

01:31:11.000 That's a problem.

01:31:13.000 I'm wondering, I don't know how sponsorships work for a lot of these fighters, but sponsorships are a big portion of how athletes make money.

01:31:19.000 I assume it's the same for UFC.

01:31:22.000 If they're now like, look man, we don't wanna be overlapping with Bud Light.

01:31:26.000 Our audience, like let's say there's a jerky company.

01:31:29.000 They're gonna be like, if people find out that we're sponsoring this stuff, like we're gonna lose money.

01:31:33.000 We're better off sponsoring something else.

01:31:34.000 No, it's like 100 to 200,000 a patch, right?

01:31:37.000 On a short or something like that.

01:31:38.000 And you have like two, maybe three, right?

01:31:41.000 So yeah, are you gonna pull those off to put Bud Light on?

01:31:44.000 And what is Bud Light gonna offer you?

01:31:45.000 Or is the UFC gonna mandate That if you want to fight in the UFC, you have to have the Bud Light logo on your stuff.

01:31:53.000 And that would force it, and then... I don't think it's likely.

01:31:57.000 But there is a slim probability that there's a massive backlash to UFC over doing this Bud Light thing.

01:32:05.000 Like, you're mentioning fighters are pissed.

01:32:06.000 Yeah.

01:32:07.000 I don't know to what degree people actually care, but let's just operate under the assumption there's a big backlash.

01:32:11.000 I mean, the people screaming and cheering for Trump are gonna be like, boo, it's gonna be gnarly.

01:32:16.000 And then, if that does happen, you will get other sponsors going to UFC and being like, do not put our logo next to Bud Light.

01:32:22.000 Like, we do not want to be a part of whatever it is you're a part of.

01:32:26.000 You do that, that's fine.

01:32:28.000 Is Dana White risking losing other sponsors by doing this deal with Bud Light?

01:32:34.000 I think so.

01:32:35.000 I mean, I just don't see how the loyalty brand that UFC has built up and whether or not you think UFC is political, you have to just go to one of these events and look at the people and talk to them.

01:32:48.000 They are dialed in.

01:32:49.000 They are educated.

01:32:50.000 They are more into the know about the news and mainstream media than people give them credit for because they're like, oh, you guys just like fights.

01:32:56.000 They're actually more dialed in than anything else.

01:32:58.000 You can't get that kind of reaction to anyone walking in unless they know what the F's going on.

01:33:04.000 And they side with them.

01:33:05.000 It's not like they hate them in unison.

01:33:07.000 They went the other way.

01:33:08.000 So if you fill a stadium full of people with like that for your sport, I can't imagine the other people watching it aren't feeling mostly the same way in some form.

01:33:17.000 And especially the social media responses I saw Or for people who weren't there, were exactly the same way.

01:33:25.000 Someone in the regular chat said, everyone has a price, Million Dollar Man.

01:33:28.000 Even your mothers have a price. 0.76

01:33:30.000 And that's just not true.

01:33:31.000 It is not true that everyone has a price.

01:33:34.000 Most do.

01:33:35.000 Most do.

01:33:37.000 And that price could actually be lower than people realize, or higher than people realize.

01:33:42.000 And I wonder if that's just...

01:33:46.000 People have not tried to sign deals before, like there are people with no price.

01:33:49.000 None.

01:33:50.000 And as we've tried to hire and acquire, you learn 90 plus percent of people in this space, there is no price you could buy them for.

01:33:58.000 90 plus.

01:33:59.000 And I'm not talking about compromising values, I'm talking about we've gone to people who have like moderate social media followings and we're like, would you want to like join the TimCast team and like we would help distribute and market and they're like, no.

01:34:11.000 Why?

01:34:11.000 I don't need it.

01:34:12.000 What am I going to do with it?

01:34:13.000 And I'm like, well, like we could, we could help you make more money.

01:34:15.000 We'll pay you more upfront.

01:34:16.000 We'll then seek ways to monetize.

01:34:17.000 We'll then try and like, we'll, we'll promote it.

01:34:20.000 And they're like, no, thanks though.

01:34:23.000 It's just like, it's not hostile.

01:34:25.000 They just don't need it.

01:34:26.000 Right.

01:34:26.000 It's for a lot of these people with social media and internet, when they're making six figures on their own already, there is nothing you can offer them because they're like, Freedom.

01:34:35.000 It's like, I could take a day off whenever I want, I answer to no one, I've got good money, for what reason would I sign this deal?

01:34:40.000 And I'm like, you're right.

01:34:41.000 Fair point.

01:34:41.000 And for most people, deals offer security, but if they feel confident, if they're established enough, they don't need that either.

01:34:47.000 It's like being a small business.

01:34:48.000 The challenge is, most people worth hiring are people who have proven with a portfolio of their work.

01:34:54.000 And have already found ways of monetizing it in the modern era.

01:34:57.000 So I, you know, it's not just that too, but especially in the world of political convictions, you'll find a lot of people are just unwilling to do deals.

01:35:05.000 Hey, Bud Light had a price.

01:35:07.000 I mean, UFC had a price.

01:35:08.000 I'm really interested in like all the MMA fighters coming out being like, no.

01:35:14.000 And which one of them is going to be like a hundred million?

01:35:15.000 Are you kidding me?

01:35:16.000 We could have gone for more.

01:35:19.000 Oh, for real, they could have gone for more, I bet.

01:35:21.000 I bet if they went to Bud Light and says, this is your only chance, you gotta make it a billion dollars. 0.73

01:35:26.000 Some ridiculous number. 0.63

01:35:27.000 You should have. 0.97

01:35:28.000 A billion over- You should have.

01:35:28.000 I don't know what they were thinking.

01:35:29.000 Over the course of- over a period of time, the way they would do it is like a billion dollars over ten years, or whatever.

01:35:33.000 I mean, maybe it's a hundred million dollars for the ten- I- like, is there a way to get there?

01:35:37.000 Bud Light is a dead brand.

01:35:38.000 And the hundred million dollars you're seeing isn't confirmed by the brands, it's just something you're seeing reported online, right?

01:35:42.000 A bunch of news outlets have reported a hundred million dollars.

01:35:44.000 Okay.

01:35:44.000 Really?

01:35:44.000 Yeah.

01:35:46.000 All right, we're gonna go to Super Chats.

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01:36:09.000 But let's read.

01:36:10.000 Clint Torres says, howdy people.

01:36:12.000 He got the first Super Chat.

01:36:14.000 That's two days in a row.

01:36:15.000 Sorry man.

01:36:15.000 They must be there at like 7.39.

01:36:16.000 They are so ready to go.

01:36:18.000 Jason takes us love you guys. Soco Patriot howdy. My local gun shop follows up with no and crying

01:36:25.000 emojis. Sorry man. You didn't make it. They must be there at like 7 39. They are so ready to go.

01:36:31.000 Yeah finger on the trigger. All right. Barely a millennial says do you think these bizarre

01:36:36.000 pro Hamas protests and rallies across the country and the world are the result of years of indoctrination?

01:36:41.000 Yes.

01:36:42.000 Or are they funded by someone like Soros or some other entity?

01:36:45.000 Yes.

01:36:46.000 Maybe both.

01:36:46.000 How do we expose it?

01:36:48.000 So, it's a combination.

01:36:50.000 You will find when you go to these protests, if you accuse these people of getting paid by Soros, they're confused because none of them are.

01:36:56.000 But, of the 300 or 400 people you might see in a protest, there will be 10 who are paid by a non-profit, which they don't realize receives a large amount of funding from the Open Society Foundation.

01:37:11.000 What they'll do is organize the protest, create an effort, a viral effort of, tell your friends, come, this is when we're doing it.

01:37:18.000 Then when all these people show up, they're like, what do you mean?

01:37:19.000 We're not paid.

01:37:20.000 This is not a paid event.

01:37:20.000 It was like, this only exists because Open Society Foundation funded nonprofits and foundations, which the money trickles down to these NGOs, these nonprofits and NGOs, which then hire people to have them organize rallies.

01:37:34.000 That's how it works.

01:37:35.000 Yep.

01:37:37.000 All right.

01:37:37.000 True.

01:37:39.000 I know Baca says hi all, long time listener, first time super chatter.

01:37:42.000 Would Cash consider becoming Trump's AG?

01:37:47.000 Listen, I would say please.

01:37:51.000 The mission for me right now is getting him elected.

01:37:54.000 That's my job.

01:37:55.000 So I will work tirelessly until November of next year to make that mission a reality.

01:38:00.000 And I, you know, look, I can share this.

01:38:01.000 I have a lot of conversations with him, but the one I had in private that I thought was going to be like a three hour conversation, maybe like a year and change ago, because when we didn't know what he was going to do, and I was like, what the hell am I going to do?

01:38:10.000 You don't know what you're going to do.

01:38:11.000 So I was driving up to Bedminster and I was like, okay boss, I got the afternoon.

01:38:16.000 Let's sit down and jam!

01:38:18.000 And he goes, Cash, I'm all in.

01:38:21.000 I go, all right, I'm all in.

01:38:22.000 See you later.

01:38:23.000 Shortest meeting I ever had, never looked back.

01:38:25.000 And yeah, we've talked about how personnel should be set in the next Trump administration.

01:38:30.000 It's a huge component of my book, Government Gangsters.

01:38:32.000 Like, you can't just replace the secretaries.

01:38:34.000 You got to go down 15 rungs in every single department, at the White House, every agency.

01:38:39.000 I mean, we have the list and I have the list of an index in the book.

01:38:43.000 That's why it's called Government Gangsters.

01:38:44.000 There's an index.

01:38:45.000 From A to B in the back of the book of every government gangster that I ever encountered.

01:38:50.000 Can I say a name?

01:38:51.000 Yeah, it's published!

01:38:52.000 And so, like, you know, if he asked me to come back in a high level position, of course I'd go back.

01:38:57.000 But would you want AG or would you want, like, Chief of Staff?

01:39:00.000 I mean, where would you want to be?

01:39:02.000 Because they're very different positions.

01:39:04.000 Yeah, look.

01:39:06.000 The AG position works if you have a great DAG and a great FBI director. 0.89

01:39:10.000 Otherwise you're kind of screwed.

01:39:12.000 Or do you want to go do ops? 0.98

01:39:14.000 Or do you want to go take on DOD?

01:39:15.000 I've worked in all three of those places and they're all awesome.

01:39:19.000 It would be great to have any of those jobs.

01:39:22.000 But you need backing.

01:39:26.000 I hope another government gangster doesn't slip through the cracks and like another Rhino or Uniparty clown shows up and says, well, yeah, you know, I was rooting for you, but I wasn't really public about it. 0.59

01:39:34.000 So I'm going to go hard to make sure more than anything people don't get it because we actually know the guys and gals that are ready to go.

01:39:43.000 And if you're not hearing their names in the mainstream media, then you kind of have your answer.

01:39:48.000 There's an index of the gangster, you said?

01:39:51.000 Yeah, it's in the back of the book.

01:39:52.000 Like what page?

01:39:53.000 What am I looking for?

01:39:55.000 Because there's a lot.

01:39:56.000 It's just a list of names in alphabetical order.

01:39:58.000 A list of names?

01:39:59.000 Yeah, it's probably after that section.

01:40:02.000 Those are the... There's end notes.

01:40:06.000 Maybe it's just before that.

01:40:07.000 I should probably know that off the top of my head. 0.98

01:40:09.000 I call the freaking book government.

01:40:10.000 Yeah, because I know it's like sources and citations. 0.52

01:40:13.000 Yeah, so you got to go to page 215.

01:40:17.000 Ah, okay.

01:40:19.000 It's story time with Cash.

01:40:23.000 I love it.

01:40:23.000 Look.

01:40:24.000 I mean, I figured if you're gonna call him out, you gotta freaking call him out.

01:40:27.000 That's the whole point.

01:40:28.000 And it's nice to get people like, oh, I've heard that name.

01:40:30.000 Bill Barr.

01:40:32.000 There's one for you.

01:40:33.000 John Bolton.

01:40:35.000 But this is the thing, people are like, oh, this Trump guy's writing this book, and I probably name more Republicans than I do Democrats.

01:40:42.000 And the point is, it's not a political mission set.

01:40:45.000 They all get together to destroy what I thought was a duly elected presidency, and in my opinion, a national security mission.

01:40:52.000 And here we are sitting in the remnants of that, right? 0.67

01:40:54.000 Two tiers of justice, two more global wars, no security at the border, and China kicking our butts across the world. 0.87

01:41:02.000 You know, Trump was like, okay, everybody can write about those problems and highlight these people, how do we fix it?

01:41:07.000 That's the core concept of government gangsters, like, every single agency department can be fixed.

01:41:11.000 But this is what you gotta do, it's gonna take a lift.

01:41:13.000 Alright, the Dungeon Delver says, Tim, please shout out my D&D group, Dungeon Delvers Group on Twitch, where a Minotaur Mamasita means a female one.

01:41:21.000 I appreciate all that you guys do.

01:41:22.000 I didn't know that.

01:41:23.000 We like Dungeons & Dragons, it's a lot of fun.

01:41:25.000 D&D.

01:41:26.000 Bud Light, coming your way.

01:41:28.000 Federale Actual says, dude, why are you letting LukeWeAreChange claim Ian like Princess Peach and his superchats are going to some weird scammy website just because Florida has a beach?

01:41:38.000 Drop him some dough for his weak infrastructure and brand it.

01:41:43.000 I have no idea what you are going on about.

01:41:46.000 I like the idea that Ian doesn't have free will.

01:41:48.000 It's just like in the video game Tim has created of our lives.

01:41:51.000 Yeah, we're all battling over Ian right now.

01:41:53.000 One big simulation.

01:41:54.000 Ian just moves from place to place wherever he's sent.

01:41:59.000 Where are we at?

01:42:02.000 Thinker4Life says, Cash, there's a huge opportunity for a conservative business incubation center in Michigan.

01:42:07.000 It's a unique setup in a battleground town.

01:42:09.000 It will go to liberals if we don't.

01:42:12.000 I'm Thinker4Life on Truth Social as well.

01:42:15.000 Great.

01:42:15.000 Splash on Truth Social and let me know what your business idea is.

01:42:18.000 I'll come see you.

01:42:19.000 Nice.

01:42:19.000 Then retruth it.

01:42:20.000 Do you miss Twitter at all?

01:42:21.000 Are you happy on Truth?

01:42:22.000 I've never been on Twitter or Insta or whatever the other ones are called.

01:42:26.000 So you got social media only because of Trump?

01:42:28.000 He's that much of an influencer?

01:42:30.000 No, you wanna know how hilarious it is?

01:42:31.000 I hate social media.

01:42:32.000 I was never on it.

01:42:34.000 And then my former boss leaves president and creates Truth Social.

01:42:38.000 I still didn't get on.

01:42:39.000 Then my former, former boss, Devin Nunes, becomes the CEO of Truth Social.

01:42:44.000 And so these two guys call me and they're like, oh yeah, this is going to be great.

01:42:47.000 I'm like, yeah, good luck.

01:42:48.000 I wish you all the success.

01:42:49.000 Have fun with social media.

01:42:51.000 And they were like, no, you're on the board of directors.

01:42:54.000 So I laughed out loud.

01:42:56.000 I was like, don't you want to hire somebody who's actually signed on to Twitter before?

01:42:59.000 I don't even know how to post.

01:43:00.000 They're like, no, you're a fresh perspective.

01:43:02.000 And now, you know, like 1.1 million followers later, here I am.

01:43:05.000 It's a hell of an elevator pitch.

01:43:08.000 It's fun.

01:43:09.000 It's addicting.

01:43:09.000 And, you know, you can make an impact.

01:43:11.000 All right.

01:43:12.000 Peter Gohawk says, in my opinion, these lawyers lives were threatened and or families were threatened by the Biden three letter agencies.

01:43:18.000 Why else flip that quick?

01:43:19.000 FJB.

01:43:21.000 Perhaps, perhaps that may be the case, and I get it, I do, and that is an issue, but I suppose, as I mentioned before, it is unfair to compare any of these individuals to the founding fathers who sacrificed their families, their children, their loved ones, their sacred treasure to declare independence, to stand up against tyranny.

01:43:41.000 It's kind of a crazy story.

01:43:43.000 The founding fathers thought we would lose the war for independence and signed a document knowing they had just condemned themselves.

01:43:52.000 That's crazy.

01:43:53.000 Yeah.

01:43:53.000 But they thought it was worth it.

01:43:54.000 They had values that told them you have to do this step and take this risk anyways.

01:43:59.000 I'm imagining these guys are looking at each other like, well, we're going to lose everything we own, we're going to die, we can't win this, but it has to be done.

01:44:05.000 It's pretty ballsy.

01:44:06.000 It's amazing.

01:44:08.000 It's the seeds that are planted that lead to a nation as great as it has become.

01:44:14.000 No question.

01:44:16.000 I assume these people are facing a tremendous amount of pressure, it's a huge financial burden to fight any government in this type of ongoing lawsuit when they can just Continue to ask the taxpayers to fund it.

01:44:25.000 On the other hand, you have to say their families knew what they were advocating.

01:44:29.000 You know, sometimes you have to be the first one into the foray.

01:44:33.000 And it's sad, but you only have the opportunity to stand up for what you believe so many times in life.

01:44:38.000 And this is the path they chose.

01:44:40.000 Again, I can't imagine the pressure, but it doesn't change the fact that they said something and now revoked it.

01:44:45.000 Let's see.

01:44:46.000 Neboop says Jenna's guilty plea is deferred, not filed as a judgment.

01:44:50.000 Rob Gouveia broke it all down today.

01:44:52.000 The judge accepted it, deferred it, and the case continues.

01:44:55.000 What does that mean?

01:44:56.000 That just means she's on probation, and basically, if you screw up, everything comes back.

01:45:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:01.000 Do you know what SOL means?

01:45:03.000 Well, I don't think I could say that here.

01:45:05.000 No, no, no.

01:45:06.000 Statute of limitations.

01:45:07.000 Oh, is that what it is?

01:45:08.000 Yeah.

01:45:08.000 When I was, uh, 20 years ago, I was in court, the judge, I was arrested for skateboarding.

01:45:14.000 The judge, uh, calls up my name, he's like, next on the docket or whatever.

01:45:17.000 Felon.

01:45:18.000 And, uh, he said, the judge looks at me and he's like, they call my name, I stand up and he's like, What is this?

01:45:24.000 And, uh, the prosecutor's like, uh, skateboarding, your honor.

01:45:26.000 And he's like, excuse me?

01:45:28.000 And they were like, he was skateboarding on, on, on state property downtown.

01:45:32.000 And he goes, is this a joke?

01:45:34.000 And he was like, no.

01:45:34.000 And he goes, he, he gets like, SOL, get in my courtroom.

01:45:38.000 He's like, you're not going to do it again.

01:45:39.000 Get out.

01:45:40.000 And I was like, I don't, what does SOL mean?

01:45:41.000 Like, well, the other one meant out of luck, but the, but the statute of limitations, he probably just needed a legal excuse to be like, Oh yeah, you should've brought this.

01:45:48.000 It normally means you have it's you have for every crime committed, there's supposed to be a number of years you can bring that crime.

01:45:55.000 Right.

01:45:56.000 If they know about it and don't act, eventually it's gone.

01:45:58.000 And very few ones, like murder and terrorism, don't have a statute of limitations.

01:46:03.000 But also, people think it means from the point of the crime, but it means from the point of discovery, right?

01:46:07.000 Or when they should have known about it, right?

01:46:10.000 If the feds are sitting on the document, they're like, we just won't look at this for 10 years.

01:46:14.000 It doesn't count.

01:46:15.000 Interesting.

01:46:16.000 But yeah, that was basically it.

01:46:17.000 It was explained to me that the idea was they could bring the charges back at some point, but they were saying to get out.

01:46:26.000 They don't want to deal with it. 1.00

01:46:27.000 It was stupid. 1.00

01:46:28.000 Yeah, there's a place in downtown Chicago. 0.99

01:46:32.000 Sidewalk I was skating on and they don't it was 3 in the morning 2 with my friends and they wanted to make an example Because they have a no skateboarding sign or whatever, but it's not illegal to skate And so the judge was just like why are you wasting the court's time?

01:46:45.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous There was some death that stuff happened to us like when we were going downtown like post 9-11 any government building they were very quick to make an example of you if you were skating on any type of Government property at that time because they were very very yeah, try doing that post 9-11 and being brown Yeah. 0.95

01:47:03.000 I mean, people do it all the time today.

01:47:04.000 There's tons of videos on YouTube of people skating in these same places with no issue.

01:47:07.000 It's just, you know, it is what it is.

01:47:10.000 All right, where are we at?

01:47:12.000 Wayne Smith says, went and saw Police State last night.

01:47:15.000 First off, Cash, amazing job in it.

01:47:16.000 P.S.

01:47:17.000 really puts in the perspective how bad it's getting.

01:47:19.000 Interesting.

01:47:20.000 That's not good.

01:47:21.000 Yeah.

01:47:22.000 TakingBackToxic says, read the 12th Amendment.

01:47:24.000 Trump and DeSantis cannot run on the same ticket.

01:47:27.000 I've heard that before, but I've heard it disputed as well.

01:47:29.000 So I don't know.

01:47:30.000 I mean, but that wasn't ultimately the reason that they did not team up.

01:47:33.000 They're never going on the same.

01:47:34.000 It ain't happening.

01:47:35.000 I'm just... it's not happening.

01:47:37.000 Bo284327 says, Did you see Preston Parra's tweet

01:47:41.000 where he said he won the debate with you?

01:47:43.000 He sounds like a grifter to me. Your thoughts? 1.00

01:47:45.000 Uh, I don't consider it a debate when one

01:47:49.000 person says, I hereby declare thing.

01:47:51.000 The other person says, what is your evidence for thing?

01:47:53.000 And the other person says, I hereby declare thing.

01:47:57.000 Yeah, I hear, but I'm like, I wasn't, I wasn't debating with him that he was wrong.

01:48:01.000 I was asking him what his proof was.

01:48:03.000 And when he didn't have any, I said, this is just you deciding you want this to be true.

01:48:07.000 I don't care what your politics are.

01:48:11.000 So this is the he was arguing that he thought Netanyahu knew Israel would be attacked because Egypt issued a warning Then there was a seven-hour stand-down order and I said, okay, what was the warning that that Egypt issued?

01:48:22.000 We don't know.

01:48:23.000 Okay, so it could have been anything could have been Hezbollah's coming.

01:48:25.000 It could have been from Jordan It could have been from south from Syria who knows so we don't know what that warning is So there's very little to speculate on then he said there's a seven-hour stand-down order and I said, what's what's your source for that?

01:48:35.000 Right.

01:48:35.000 Where is it a guy who works for an NGO in Israel who works with the government said this?

01:48:41.000 And I'm like, okay, single dubious source that doesn't actually have privy to information.

01:48:46.000 And then it benefited Netanyahu.

01:48:48.000 And I'm like, yeah, that's possible, but all highly speculative.

01:48:50.000 I don't see the point of bringing it up.

01:48:52.000 So there's not really a debate.

01:48:54.000 It's not, look, this is a much bigger conversation.

01:48:56.000 I wrote two op-eds on Intel.

01:48:57.000 We didn't miss it.

01:48:58.000 We weren't looking.

01:48:59.000 Right.

01:48:59.000 That's how this all happens.

01:49:01.000 And the same with the Israelis. 0.95

01:49:02.000 When you go through woke policies as your national security priorities, and you're saying, no, we need to look at climate change and the setting sun more than we need to look at, you know, terror.

01:49:11.000 That's literally what this administration has done.

01:49:13.000 And then for them, and they're going to come and say this later, they're gonna be like, well, there was this Intel analyst who knew that was going to be a tech.

01:49:19.000 Saying you have intelligence that Hamas and Iran are going to attack Israel is like saying America possesses intelligence that the cartels are going to bring in drugs to the southern part of the world.

01:49:28.000 Like, if you don't empower the people with the jobs to take them on, it doesn't freaking matter what you do.

01:49:33.000 You know, my thing is like, there was a report that Egypt warned Israel, and I'm like, the only quote we had was, something big.

01:49:41.000 And so imagine you get a warning at your house or your business that something big is coming.

01:49:46.000 What do you do?

01:49:47.000 What do you do with that information?

01:49:48.000 You hire security guards?

01:49:49.000 Okay.

01:49:49.000 And then some guy parachutes onto the top of your building and you're like, I never would have thought of that.

01:49:54.000 Or he digs up from under the floor.

01:49:55.000 I mean, something big could come from any direction.

01:49:57.000 It's just impossible to say.

01:49:59.000 We don't know the nature of the warning.

01:50:00.000 I'm like, it's possible.

01:50:02.000 But I think it's silly to be like, I want a debate.

01:50:04.000 It's like, you know what?

01:50:06.000 I talked about it earlier today.

01:50:07.000 What I'm calling Israel-Palestine derangement syndrome.

01:50:10.000 I mentioned this a little bit before the show that no one cares about Myanmar slash Burma.

01:50:19.000 Since 1948, hundreds of thousands have been killed in this ongoing conflict.

01:50:23.000 And even recently, there's tons of news.

01:50:26.000 And it's like, nobody cares.

01:50:28.000 12,000 people have died.

01:50:29.000 Most people don't even know it's a country.

01:50:31.000 Yeah, I made the joke.

01:50:33.000 I tweeted, I'm going to get mad about Myanmar. 1.00

01:50:35.000 And someone said, you mean Burma? 0.98

01:50:36.000 And I'm like, dang, he's ugly. 0.97

01:50:38.000 You watch Seinfeld. 0.97

01:50:39.000 Yeah, we'll make this the news.

01:50:41.000 So it's like, I understand there's a religious component, but a lot of these people on the left are advocating for Palestine for literally no reason.

01:50:49.000 None whatsoever.

01:50:50.000 The people who are advocating for Israel typically have families in Israel, and however, many of these people have said very horrifying things.

01:50:57.000 A former guest on this show basically called for nuking Palestinians. 0.86

01:51:00.000 Like just killing everybody. 0.99

01:51:02.000 Yeah, that's not a good idea. 0.98

01:51:02.000 No, that's insane. 0.98

01:51:04.000 So it is very, very heated.

01:51:05.000 I can understand why someone like Ben Shapiro is very upset.

01:51:07.000 He has family there.

01:51:08.000 He was just there.

01:51:09.000 I respect that.

01:51:10.000 I don't understand why your random college leftist is chanting in support of Hamas.

01:51:14.000 And I'm like, you don't know anything about the region.

01:51:16.000 There's no reason.

01:51:16.000 I don't get it.

01:51:18.000 No, they're doing it because it's a cool thing to do.

01:51:19.000 It's popular.

01:51:20.000 It's in Rolling Stone.

01:51:21.000 You have to, you know, go out there.

01:51:22.000 Like wearing a Mao shirt.

01:51:24.000 Yeah.

01:51:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:51:25.000 That's a great idea.

01:51:27.000 Che Guevara.

01:51:27.000 Give me that.

01:51:28.000 Jason Hutchinson says, this is good.

01:51:30.000 The Republican Party needs to end.

01:51:32.000 It has been either ineffective at preventing what's happening today or complacent with it.

01:51:36.000 I mean, we're complicit.

01:51:38.000 Yes.

01:51:38.000 And people are like, should we be happy about having a speaker?

01:51:41.000 And I'm like, this is a good thing.

01:51:42.000 I mean, it's definitely keeping us from sending money abroad right now.

01:51:46.000 Yeah, what's the argument?

01:51:48.000 If we had a speaker we'd be funding more wars? 0.98

01:51:50.000 So having gone through a government shutdown and being denied getting paid and being in one of the few jobs that actually never got their money back?

01:51:57.000 I'm like the one of the like 0.000001% of people ever impacted by a government shutdown.

01:52:04.000 Who watching this show or anyone that you know is actually impacted by a federal government shutdown other than the mainstream media to lay political blame?

01:52:11.000 VI benefits is the main concern.

01:52:15.000 I got it.

01:52:15.000 The troops and all that stuff, I got it.

01:52:17.000 There's money in the coffers to fund that stuff.

01:52:20.000 It doesn't run out because the government turns off.

01:52:22.000 That is a bogus DC government fiction that they scare us into with, oh my god, the world's going to end.

01:52:30.000 Remember in the Obama administration, the government shut down for months.

01:52:34.000 Months!

01:52:36.000 And I was a federal public defender and they named my small crew of people non-essential, so I never got paid back.

01:52:42.000 But every other government employee got retroactive pay for the entire time once the government turned on.

01:52:48.000 So I don't want to hear it.

01:52:50.000 So when is the current CR supposed to expire?

01:52:53.000 Two... No.

01:52:55.000 Oh shoot, I should know that.

01:52:55.000 Three or four weeks.

01:52:56.000 Three or four weeks.

01:52:57.000 If they don't get a speaker in three or four weeks, there's just government shutdown.

01:53:00.000 Yeah.

01:53:02.000 All right.

01:53:02.000 Tim's like, do it.

01:53:04.000 Every libertarian is going like, yeah!

01:53:08.000 I'm not so adamant about it.

01:53:09.000 I think that makes interesting points.

01:53:11.000 We don't want people to go without paying.

01:53:12.000 I get that.

01:53:13.000 A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck.

01:53:15.000 I got it.

01:53:15.000 And I don't want them to do it.

01:53:19.000 What's the alternative?

01:53:20.000 We just keep providing funding to these lobbyists and massive corporations?

01:53:24.000 Oh, they are having a dance party in D.C.

01:53:29.000 The defense industrial complex and the lobbyists are turning it on.

01:53:33.000 This is a $500 billion machine you just gave, like, fentanyl to with, you know, like, ecstasy in it or something.

01:53:40.000 I don't even know what those two do. 0.77

01:53:41.000 But these guys are going out there buying Democrats and Republicans.

01:53:45.000 $100 billion check to you, you get $10 million, you get $1 million.

01:53:48.000 Get us an FBOD DOD contract.

01:53:50.000 The world is ending.

01:53:51.000 We have to make new munitions and weapons and missiles and they're like, this is our COVID.

01:53:56.000 No, essentially, Big Pharma, right?

01:53:58.000 Moderna and Pfizer.

01:54:00.000 Now there's the Big Five in the DoD industrial complex space.

01:54:02.000 Raytheon's like, let's go!

01:54:04.000 They're like, let's go!

01:54:05.000 And you know the guys that are running these companies?

01:54:07.000 The government gangsters that used to be the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of this, Secretary of the Army.

01:54:12.000 Some people are getting paid.

01:54:13.000 We got a super chat the other day, a couple people mentioned this, that there's like some ammunition company, a company that makes ammo that switched entirely to government contracts instead of civilian.

01:54:21.000 That's a no-brainer.

01:54:22.000 I'm not super right, but I'm not super familiar.

01:54:25.000 Maybe someone in the chat knows, but this is indicative of war.

01:54:29.000 Well, no, what it is indicative of is getting paid.

01:54:31.000 So when you get on a government, what we call GOFO, a government funded prime contract, a PRIME, you are set for life, especially if it's in the defense industrial complex space.

01:54:43.000 Those are very hard to get, and they don't pay you for like a year.

01:54:47.000 They pay you for like 15 budget cycles.

01:54:50.000 And they usually pay an inordinate amount.

01:54:52.000 So government contracts are supposed to go to, like, the lowest bidder who can do it best, but what we end up doing is delay, delay, delay, then paying the highest guy because we want to screw over the other guys because we were too slow in getting it right in the first place.

01:55:04.000 All right.

01:55:05.000 Solrack says, family dog just passed away today.

01:55:08.000 He was very loving, very fluffy, and very short.

01:55:11.000 Rest in peace, Shorty.

01:55:12.000 I will love and miss you.

01:55:13.000 It was an amazing 16 years.

01:55:14.000 16 years is a long time.

01:55:17.000 That's good.

01:55:18.000 Sorry to hear it, but rest in peace.

01:55:21.000 Shorty.

01:55:24.000 Kane Ables says, you think the government cannot write checks due to not having a speaker?

01:55:28.000 They will do it behind closed doors in private.

01:55:31.000 But Biden can stroke checks.

01:55:33.000 True.

01:55:34.000 Yeah.

01:55:36.000 Edward M. says, uh, WTF, the UFC signed a deal with Anheuser-Busch.

01:55:39.000 Don't get started!

01:55:42.000 Cringe! 0.97

01:55:43.000 So many weird things have happened this year, you know?

01:55:45.000 It's definitely not what I would have seen coming.

01:55:47.000 Still got two and a half months left.

01:55:49.000 Philly James says, as a regular UFC watcher, I couldn't tell you the sponsor from this last Saturday fight don't care about still watching the fights.

01:55:56.000 Yeah, see?

01:55:59.000 Matt Allen says, I canceled my UFC Fight Pass subscription today.

01:56:02.000 I bet you'll get some from each of those camps, right?

01:56:04.000 So the people who are, I mean, even that person is who is clearly politically aware because they're watching this show and still values the entertainment over that.

01:56:14.000 There's no alternative, right?

01:56:15.000 Like you could say, I'm going to buy another beer, but you're not going to watch a different fight.

01:56:19.000 I mean, especially now that they own WWE.

01:56:20.000 Where are you going to go?

01:56:21.000 Watch Power Slap? 0.96

01:56:22.000 Yeah.

01:56:23.000 Yeah!

01:56:23.000 Hey, go do that!

01:56:25.000 Seth Weathers says, those MFers beat us by a hundred million million to be the official UFC beer sponsor.

01:56:32.000 Brutal!

01:56:34.000 Imagine if UFC decided just to go with Ultra Right.

01:56:39.000 And they were just like, I mean, cause you could theoretically do it.

01:56:43.000 A hundred million dollars, they say, right?

01:56:44.000 You could theoretically, Seth could do the same deal and it's based off of contingency.

01:56:49.000 It's like, we'll do a hundred million dollar deal, which basically means once we sell up to that number, it all goes to you.

01:56:55.000 And then afterwards it goes back to us.

01:56:57.000 Yeah.

01:56:58.000 Totally worth it.

01:56:58.000 Interesting.

01:56:59.000 Yeah.

01:56:59.000 You can find some venture capitalist rich guy who's totally on board the anti-Bush, light, whatever Budweiser train and be like, I'll give you the check.

01:57:06.000 We'll make our own fighting league for MMA.

01:57:08.000 You just want Jeremy to get in this space.

01:57:11.000 Jeremy.

01:57:13.000 Tim Kesslager.

01:57:14.000 We need the Jeremy signal.

01:57:15.000 It's like a light in the sky and it signifies Jeremy that a company's gone woke and there's an opportunity for a business venture.

01:57:23.000 I think he's only done two, right?

01:57:25.000 I mean, technically.

01:57:25.000 Well, no, he's doing the Snow White movie too.

01:57:27.000 Right, right.

01:57:29.000 You know, but it's funny because like the M.O.

01:57:31.000 is basically There is a clear path to success that's been proven, and they've abandoned it.

01:57:36.000 So all Jeremy is doing is being like... I'm getting back on the path.

01:57:40.000 Like, Snow White is a huge success.

01:57:42.000 They've made a crappy version.

01:57:44.000 I'll make it, and then I'll get rich.

01:57:46.000 Right, they don't care about selling it.

01:57:48.000 It's a proven money-making venture, and they've abandoned it.

01:57:51.000 I'll take it.

01:57:52.000 You're gonna have to open the Daily Wire store right next to Target.

01:57:55.000 Yeah, it's like Congress for Hollywood.

01:57:57.000 Yeah.

01:57:57.000 I mean, yeah, like where's, where's Jeremy's grocery?

01:58:00.000 Yeah.

01:58:01.000 Could you imagine like a hundred years from now?

01:58:03.000 It's like literally everything is just like Public Square is one company.

01:58:06.000 It's Jeremy's everything.

01:58:07.000 No, it's terrifying.

01:58:08.000 I don't like that either.

01:58:09.000 That's too much for me.

01:58:11.000 Isn't the Aldi's guy pretty based though?

01:58:13.000 Cause he's like a hypercapitalist.

01:58:15.000 Yeah.

01:58:16.000 Yeah.

01:58:17.000 And Aldi's is one of the top organic grocers, or used to be one of the top organic grocers in the U.S.

01:58:21.000 I remember he did the thing with Rogan where he's like, oh, these people, they don't understand how money works!

01:58:27.000 Okay, Boomer Dad, thank you.

01:58:28.000 I'm just kidding.

01:58:31.000 What do we got?

01:58:32.000 Beef Nasty says UFC is going to take Bud Light money and run.

01:58:35.000 UFC fighters will rag on Bud Light and they won't care. 0.85

01:58:38.000 If a fighter brings PPV's money in, Daddy Dana don't care if they smack talk Bud Light. 1.00

01:58:44.000 That's not saying how many people are gonna be like, so what?

01:58:47.000 Free money.

01:58:48.000 They're gonna get made fun of.

01:58:49.000 Bud Light's gonna, it's going to hurt Bud Light more, because now everyone's gonna make fun of them.

01:58:54.000 Yeah.

01:58:55.000 They can't.

01:58:56.000 And they obviously cannot abandon their hyper masculine brand.

01:58:59.000 That's what they have learned through all of this.

01:59:01.000 Yeah, unfortunately.

01:59:02.000 That's a win for men. 1.00

01:59:03.000 Good job, guys.

01:59:06.000 I'm betting it tanks.

01:59:09.000 Yeah.

01:59:10.000 More likely.

01:59:11.000 KCB says Trump's lawyers trading their principles because they've never had to weigh them against the machine.

01:59:16.000 If they went to prison and pro bono legal services for everyone in the prison, they'd be out in six months.

01:59:21.000 Their strength and weakness.

01:59:24.000 You know?

01:59:24.000 It's that line from Mighty Mighty Bossstones.

01:59:29.000 I'm not a coward, I've just never been tested.

01:59:30.000 I'd like to think that if I was, I would pass.

01:59:33.000 These people were tested and they all failed.

01:59:34.000 I can't believe there was a Mighty Mighty Bossstones reference at all.

01:59:38.000 Yeah, not really.

01:59:39.000 Well, I mean, come on, like, you know, Dickie is in the band with, he's with Pete Parata and The Defiant now, so like, Mighty Mighty Bossstones is back in the playlist, baby!

01:59:46.000 Let's go!

01:59:47.000 Yeah, listen to Dead Language by The Defiant.

01:59:50.000 That song's great.

01:59:51.000 It's about just, like, society's become so brutal and no one's paying attention anymore.

01:59:58.000 They're all on their phones.

01:59:59.000 Yeah, good song.

02:00:00.000 Five Times August was on our show last week after the release of this new single, which is basically calling out all the musicians who shilled for Big Pharma.

02:00:09.000 And that was Friday too, right?

02:00:10.000 Yeah.

02:00:11.000 And that was actually the day we had the music all set up.

02:00:13.000 We could have totally had them come up and jam.

02:00:15.000 Complete, uh, inter-office communication show.

02:00:18.000 Yeah, we have to work on that.

02:00:20.000 Come on, Brett.

02:00:21.000 Alright, alright.

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02:00:37.000 Cash, do you want to shout anything out?

02:00:39.000 Yeah, selfishly.

02:00:40.000 Buy it.

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02:00:42.000 No, I'm kidding.

02:00:43.000 Honestly, it was a chore writing the book, but I think I did government gangsters because people kept saying, what do we do?

02:00:49.000 You want the answers?

02:00:50.000 They're in here.

02:00:50.000 The government receipts are in here.

02:00:51.000 The gangsters are in here.

02:00:52.000 How many books do you need to sell to pledge to become the AG?

02:00:58.000 100,000.

02:00:58.000 Let's go.

02:00:59.000 Is that it?

02:00:59.000 Yeah.

02:01:00.000 Okay.

02:01:00.000 It's a tough book market.

02:01:01.000 I'm already a bestseller on Wall Street Journal and Amazon.

02:01:03.000 New York Times were like, oh, you sold enough books to be a bestseller, but we're not putting your book on.

02:01:07.000 So the point is, you can't make yourself AG, but you know, so it's not really something you can guarantee.

02:01:12.000 But if you sell 100,000 of these books, you will pledge to do everything with your power to become the AG.

02:01:18.000 Ooh.

02:01:19.000 Maybe 200,000.

02:01:19.000 I think you want a different position.

02:01:23.000 That's my new theory.

02:01:24.000 You might be onto something.

02:01:25.000 We can talk later.

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