Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - TRUMP LIVES! POTUS Leaves Hospital As Outraged Journalists Shake Fists w-Lauren Chen

00:00:00.000 Much to the dismay of many resistance members and journalists, the

00:00:29.000 The president is fine.

00:00:31.000 He lives.

00:00:32.000 And he calmly walked out of Walter Reed and waved to his adoring fans as outraged journalists shook their fists.

00:00:40.000 They were so angry.

00:00:41.000 I mean, look, I know I'm joking about this, but how ridiculous was it that you simultaneously had resistance activists saying that Trump was faking it. 0.55

00:00:50.000 You had Joy Reid on MSNBC, Trump's faking it. 0.95

00:00:52.000 He's not really sick.

00:00:53.000 You had Linda Sarsour saying somebody's trying to get out of the debates.

00:00:56.000 But then you had people saying like, I don't know, man, Trump's on his deathbed.

00:00:59.000 He's getting dexamethasone.

00:01:01.000 This is the end.

00:01:02.000 And then Trump just like walks out like, I'm okay.

00:01:04.000 It's, you know, it's a mild, mild symptoms.

00:01:06.000 I'm totally fine.

00:01:07.000 And that was to be expected. All these conspiracy theories.

00:01:10.000 Now they're really angry that Trump's leaving because they're like, he's contagious, don't let

00:01:14.000 him leave. And the doctors are like, but he doesn't need to be in the hospital. Just absolutely

00:01:19.000 ridiculous. So we're gonna talk a bit about this and welcome to the Timcast IRL podcast. 0.63

00:01:23.000 Hopefully everything's going well. We had some weird smoke alarm thing going off nonstop just before we

00:01:27.000 started. But we're hanging out with a very special guest.

00:01:31.000 First, of course, you know Ian Crossland.

00:01:33.000 Hi, thanks Tim.

00:01:35.000 You're not the special guest, Ian.

00:01:36.000 You're just a dude Sour Patch Ladies is, of course, producing. 1.00

00:01:39.000 Yes, I am the corner.

00:01:40.000 And we're here with Lauren Chen.

00:01:42.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:01:43.000 It's awesome to be here.

00:01:44.000 I watch the show all the time.

00:01:46.000 Oh, you do?

00:01:46.000 Yeah, I do.

00:01:47.000 Well, you have your own show.

00:01:48.000 Yeah, I do.

00:01:49.000 But like, I get ready with you guys in the morning.

00:01:52.000 Oh, that's awesome.

00:01:53.000 Always have something to watch because you produce content like a madman.

00:01:57.000 Yeah, I do like four hours of content per day.

00:01:58.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:01:59.000 I don't have that many opinions.

00:02:00.000 I just can't talk that much.

00:02:03.000 I admire it.

00:02:04.000 Well, you know, if I'm reading a story, I'll have an opinion, you know, while I'm going through it, you know what I mean?

00:02:08.000 So I'll be like, oh, look at this, like Trump, you know, and they're saying Trump is dying.

00:02:11.000 And then I'll read it and I'll be like, wait a minute, they just said Trump was faking it.

00:02:14.000 So which one is it?

00:02:14.000 So, you know, yeah.

00:02:16.000 Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody.

00:02:18.000 Smash the like button.

00:02:19.000 We're going to talk.

00:02:19.000 We got this breaking news.

00:02:21.000 Donald Trump is leaving the hospital, so we're going to get right into it.

00:02:23.000 But make sure you subscribe, hit the like button, hit the notification bell.

00:02:26.000 And let's just jump to the first story that will kick off the general conversation.

00:02:30.000 From the Daily Mail, Donald Trump leaves Walter Reed after three nights battling COVID and takes off his mask as soon as he lands the White House, where he will take more experimental drugs.

00:02:41.000 I love how they phrase this.

00:02:42.000 Sounds like fun.

00:02:43.000 And promises to be back on the campaign trail soon, so we have some bullet points.

00:02:47.000 Trump arrived back at the White House Monday night, taking off his face mask to enter the building.

00:02:50.000 I'm sure the journalists are screaming, oh no, now he's getting people sick.

00:02:53.000 The president left Walter Reed after spending three nights.

00:02:56.000 He walked out at 640, which is about what he expected.

00:02:59.000 At 645, the helicopter took off and it landed at 655.

00:03:03.000 Marine One crew will have to isolate for 14 days and the helicopter will have to be deep cleaned.

00:03:07.000 The 74-year-old president tweeted on Monday afternoon that he was feeling better than I did 20 years ago.

00:03:13.000 His treatment, yeah.

00:03:14.000 Well, he's hopped up on goofballs.

00:03:16.000 His treatment will continue at the White House with doctors on Monday saying he was not out of the woods.

00:03:21.000 Trump told his supporters, don't be afraid of COVID.

00:03:23.000 Don't let it dominate your life.

00:03:25.000 The virus has claimed more than 210,000 American lives and more than 1 million worldwide.

00:03:30.000 On Monday, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany became the 14th person in his circle to test positive.

00:03:35.000 Anonymous aide said on Monday that Trump had grown tired of watching news coverage of his health.

00:03:40.000 Yeah, and as it turns out, the unhinged conspiracies across the board were totally wrong.

00:03:46.000 I don't know if you guys were tracking what these journalists were saying.

00:03:50.000 You've been seeing it?

00:03:51.000 I mean, I saw one journalist say that she had some anonymous source report that Trump was, like, on his deathbed.

00:03:57.000 He might pass away imminently.

00:04:00.000 And I was also simultaneously seeing that he's actually just faking it to get out of these debates.

00:04:04.000 It's like, whatever.

00:04:06.000 Trump is doing the bad thing.

00:04:07.000 The bad thing could be one of many possibilities.

00:04:09.000 We're not sure which one, but just know that something's not on the up and up because it's Trump.

00:04:13.000 You know, what's really annoying to me is, like, I don't know how many times I can tell people that everything Trump does is wrong.

00:04:21.000 So look, I got some messages from friends, and they're like, man, it's a I-hate-the-media-morning, huh?

00:04:26.000 Like, every segment you've done has been, the media's bad, these people— I'm like, yeah!

00:04:30.000 Because like, all throughout this news cycle with Trump and COVID, it's been a rollercoaster of emotions.

00:04:37.000 Is he faking it?

00:04:38.000 Well, whatever he's doing, it's wrong, okay?

00:04:40.000 So he's faking it. 1.00

00:04:41.000 What a jerk. 1.00

00:04:42.000 Then they took pictures of him working and they're like, the pictures are fake! 1.00

00:04:45.000 It's like, okay.

00:04:46.000 Like, even the pictures he took are bad?

00:04:48.000 Yeah.

00:04:49.000 Everything is bad.

00:04:49.000 I saw Yahoo News speculating that they were trying to make it look like Trump was working over several days because he was wearing different clothes and in different locations.

00:04:57.000 It's like, the man takes off his suit jacket and then goes to a different room.

00:05:02.000 And it's this big conspiracy where he's apparently trying to make it look like, what are you talking about?

00:05:07.000 So that was one of my favorite conspiracies because I actually had these resistance people tweet at me and then delete their tweets.

00:05:12.000 This is funny.

00:05:13.000 So this one was... There's a photo of Trump.

00:05:16.000 He's wearing a suit jacket.

00:05:18.000 No tie though.

00:05:19.000 And he's like signing a paper.

00:05:20.000 The first conspiracy theory, the paper was blank.

00:05:23.000 No, it's just called blown out.

00:05:26.000 When the light is trying to adjust for a lower light area and you have a white reflection, it blows out the image.

00:05:31.000 You can't see anything on it.

00:05:32.000 So they thought it was blank.

00:05:33.000 They're literally photos of Obama doing the same thing.

00:05:35.000 So that was the first conspiracy, which they still are pushing.

00:05:38.000 How insane.

00:05:39.000 The next was the EXIF data.

00:05:41.000 That's right.

00:05:42.000 When you take a picture and then publish it, there's a bunch of information stored on that image, like what kind of camera it was, was there a flash, where and when the photo was taken.

00:05:52.000 The only issue with this conspiracy, I love it so much, is that there's also a caption that says, Donald Trump as seen at the White House after being diagnosed, or seen at Walter Reed, after being diagnosed with COVID.

00:06:01.000 And so they're all saying like, these two photos are taken 10 minutes apart.

00:06:05.000 And I'm like, but there's a caption in it, meaning someone ran it through a rendering program and created a new file.

00:06:13.000 And so I tried explaining to people, That the reason the date is 10 minutes off is probably because the photographer loaded a bunch of raw files into a program and then added the captions and then compressed them down, creating new files.

00:06:28.000 And so after saying that, it's a very simple explanation, I actually had someone say, no, you are wrong.

00:06:33.000 All that would do is change the modification date.

00:06:36.000 So it would say date modified, not date created.

00:06:39.000 Or that the EXIF data is not date-created because it's specifically about the camera, and I'm just like, dude, do these people really think that the Associated Press photographer is in on it?

00:06:51.000 Yeah, like had a meeting with Trump and they were like, so Trump was like, we're going to stage this to make it look like I'm working, and the photographer was like, I'm the journalist who's in on the conspiracy!

00:07:00.000 So are journalists good guys or enemies of people?

00:07:03.000 Are they working with Trump, a fascist dictator, to make him look good?

00:07:06.000 Or did they just render a new file that has improper data? 0.92

00:07:12.000 It's just conspiracy world.

00:07:14.000 And they're allowed to do it?

00:07:15.000 Well, what I find so hypocritical about all this is like we remember during the 2016 election, there was all this speculation over Hillary's health.

00:07:22.000 And we were told that that is just it's because of actually sexism and just conspiracy theories.

00:07:29.000 And never mind that.

00:07:30.000 But I mean, Biden, a lot of people do believe he has cognitive decline.

00:07:33.000 Right.

00:07:33.000 But like the media never talks about it, doesn't report on it.

00:07:36.000 But all of a sudden, Trump essentially gets the flu and like Non-stop for the past, like, what, 70-some hours.

00:07:44.000 I remember I was looking for a story to talk about, and I did not want to talk about Trump having COVID because, I mean, what am I supposed to do with that?

00:07:53.000 But yeah, there was nothing else because this completely consumed everybody. 0.92

00:07:56.000 They're going to get us for this one because COVID is not the flu, but they're going to clip it, they're going to clip it, and they're going to be like, Lauren Chen is pushing—I'm not even—these people are nuts.

00:08:06.000 So, Trump got COVID.

00:08:07.000 The survival rate for, I think, people in his bracket is like 70- I'm sorry, he's 74, so it's like 95%.

00:08:14.000 And it's actually pretty scary, but it's because he's obese.

00:08:20.000 And he's older.

00:08:21.000 But I don't think his diet is that great.

00:08:23.000 Yeah, he eats at McDonald's all the time.

00:08:27.000 Wasn't he eating at McDonald's recently?

00:08:28.000 Or was that a joke?

00:08:29.000 Someone was joking about McDonald's is gonna make him strong and get him through this.

00:08:33.000 He loves fast food.

00:08:34.000 So I know somebody who used to cover his campaigns for a while.

00:08:38.000 And they would fly on the plane with him and everything.

00:08:40.000 And they said he's always eating fast food.

00:08:42.000 They also said he was a really nice guy.

00:08:44.000 He would offer people if you want anything.

00:08:46.000 But that he's a germaphobe.

00:08:48.000 So that, this is the craziest thing.

00:08:51.000 They used to say, I remember covering Trump's campaign back in 2015 and 2016, they were like, the dude's totally germophobic.

00:08:57.000 He like, is always wiping his hands off, and he doesn't like touching things.

00:09:00.000 And the only reason he eats fast food, and he doesn't like going to other places, is because they have uniform standards.

00:09:05.000 Interesting.

00:09:06.000 So he's like, the food is all made, manufactured in a factory, so he's not worried about tainted meat and stuff like that for the most part.

00:09:13.000 So it's like, I know I'm getting the same standard at every place, but if you go to a small restaurant, you can get food poisoning or something.

00:09:19.000 Yeah.

00:09:20.000 So I know journalists who are like, yeah, Trump is a germaphobe.

00:09:25.000 And then to hear them complain about him not wearing a mask.

00:09:27.000 I'm like, that's kind of weird to me.

00:09:29.000 Cause the dude is like germaphobic, older guy.

00:09:31.000 He's like always wiping his hands down and stuff.

00:09:34.000 And I think the issue with the mask is just like, it's to stop other people from getting sick.

00:09:39.000 So I'm, I wonder if like Trump was just like, I don't care, whatever, you know?

00:09:42.000 But then, but then Trump gets sick and then all of a sudden the conspiracies erupt.

00:09:45.000 Yeah, I mean, to the comment about fast food places having standards, I mean, I'm sure a lot of people watching can testify to the fact that, you know, places like Taco Bell being a chain and having supposedly universal standards, not necessarily protection against fast food.

00:10:00.000 Hey, hey, hey, Taco Bell's alright.

00:10:02.000 Hey, I like it.

00:10:02.000 I think it's worth it.

00:10:03.000 You know, you roll the dice, what happens, happens.

00:10:05.000 It's still good food.

00:10:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:08.000 You know, you could get a bowel obstruction or you could clear yourself out, one or the other, depending on what you get.

00:10:13.000 We never know.

00:10:14.000 Did anyone ever figure out what Trump's secret cocktail of medicine was?

00:10:19.000 I love how they're like experimental drugs.

00:10:21.000 Yeah, what is he taking?

00:10:23.000 Stem cells?

00:10:24.000 Maybe he really does feel plenty of them.

00:10:26.000 Just inject the baby fetuses right into him. 1.00

00:10:29.000 So, you know, look, Trump's fine. 0.99

00:10:33.000 It's ridiculous because even though COVID, it's worse than the flu and it's a serious thing.

00:10:39.000 The main issue that needs to be clarified with COVID is that, as a novel virus, we didn't know how to treat it.

00:10:43.000 We're actually at the point now where we do know.

00:10:45.000 And one of the interesting things about all this is that they were like, why are they giving Trump this medicine or that medicine?

00:10:50.000 And then there were actual people saying like, it's because we changed how we're treating it.

00:10:54.000 It's been seven months or whatever.

00:10:57.000 We've changed our course of treatment.

00:10:59.000 They're not doing intubation anymore, I guess.

00:11:01.000 Those were damaging people, right?

00:11:02.000 Those ventilators?

00:11:03.000 Right.

00:11:04.000 And so now they're just like supplemental oxygen, not ventilated, and you give them these medications, and Trump is fine.

00:11:11.000 It's a couple days.

00:11:12.000 Are they still doing the plasma treatments for people who have it more serious?

00:11:15.000 I think so.

00:11:16.000 I don't know, but that's cool.

00:11:17.000 Yeah, that is plasma.

00:11:18.000 Yeah, it's really cool.

00:11:19.000 Yeah, I was reading about that.

00:11:21.000 We talked about that with somebody.

00:11:22.000 I can't remember who it was.

00:11:22.000 I think so.

00:11:23.000 Where it's like they take your blood out and then they run it along like this membrane, like put oxygen in it.

00:11:27.000 Yeah.

00:11:28.000 That's crazy.

00:11:28.000 Yeah, Weinstein was saying that it might have been damaging the hemoglobin in the cells.

00:11:33.000 The virus itself?

00:11:34.000 Yeah.

00:11:35.000 Yes.

00:11:35.000 And that's why the cells weren't able to transfer oxygen.

00:11:38.000 It wasn't that you needed more air in your lungs because the cells themselves were having a hard time.

00:11:43.000 Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell is my biology.

00:11:48.000 You nailed it.

00:11:49.000 That's exactly it.

00:11:50.000 That explains everything.

00:11:51.000 No, but I love this.

00:11:52.000 Uh, I mean, the point I was trying to get to earlier is like, I'm not trying to drag or mock the man cause he's sick.

00:11:59.000 No, I wish him the best.

00:12:00.000 But the reason why I think it's totally okay to make jokes about this is because we knew he was going to be fine.

00:12:05.000 You know, and there was like comments about how like, Oh, you gotta be solemn and don't, don't mock the president. 1.00

00:12:10.000 Well, there's one, it's one thing if you're like, Trump is a moron. 1.00

00:12:12.000 What a dumb- Okay, that's not poking fun. 1.00

00:12:16.000 But like, you know, if I were to, you know, post a meme of Trump- There was a funny meme of Trump with- It was Willy Wonka with Trump's face. 0.99

00:12:23.000 You guys know this?

00:12:23.000 Where like, Willy Wonka walks out of the cane and then he falls over, but it's Trump.

00:12:27.000 And then some- There's another meme where it's a whole bunch of conservative faces.

00:12:30.000 I don't even know what the movie is, but it's like, Trump is Babe Ruth.

00:12:33.000 And then he like hits a home.

00:12:35.000 Field of Dreams?

00:12:36.000 No, I don't know what it is.

00:12:37.000 It's not Babe Ruth, but he's like, he's playing baseball.

00:12:39.000 And then the ball is the coronavirus and they throw it and then Trump hits it.

00:12:43.000 And it's like, you know, they do the deepfake thing that's going viral.

00:12:47.000 Yeah, it was like Trump's face.

00:12:48.000 And then you had a bunch of conservatives on the fans shooting.

00:12:50.000 I've also seen the re-dub of the WWE thing with him like beating.

00:12:55.000 They've done the CNN version, but now there's the coronavirus version where it's just like the guy's head is actually just the coronavirus.

00:13:01.000 This is so good for him.

00:13:03.000 I think so.

00:13:04.000 Yeah.

00:13:05.000 Yeah, because it was only three days.

00:13:07.000 So the worrying thing is that, you know, Kayleigh McEnany today reported that she was asymptomatic, but she tested positive.

00:13:13.000 And Trump definitely needs her because she is like the fake newsbuster.

00:13:17.000 I love her.

00:13:18.000 I'm a huge fan.

00:13:19.000 She's got the binder.

00:13:20.000 Yeah.

00:13:22.000 I'm just imagining her as like, you know, putting on the Ghostbuster jumpsuit and all the journalists.

00:13:27.000 Yeah.

00:13:28.000 Yeah, so she's, you know, going to be somewhat inhibited now because she's got to quarantine. 0.97

00:13:33.000 And then if Trump did have to isolate, or still does, that's bad.

00:13:37.000 I mean, this is the home stretch, man.

00:13:39.000 This is where Trump needs to kick it up a notch.

00:13:41.000 Yeah, they need to be on the campaign trail.

00:13:42.000 Well, actually, speaking of all these, like, coronavirus testing results, I don't know if you folks have seen from the New York Times.

00:13:48.000 Oh gosh, was it the New York Times or the New York Post?

00:13:50.000 But there was this report about how the Like, the sensitivity of a lot of COVID tests are actually too great.

00:13:57.000 So there might be more confirmed cases than there should be.

00:14:01.000 Some of the people who are testing positive might have either had it months ago and they're no longer contagious or might have been contaminated in the lab.

00:14:07.000 And actually, Westphalian Times, they just did a report looking in Canada and it's the same thing there as well.

00:14:13.000 And I'm sure, you know, probably in most developed countries where they're doing this, we might actually be kind of quarantining people who don't have it and who aren't necessarily susceptible to passing

00:14:22.000 it on.

00:14:23.000 And destroying the economy and lives in the process.

00:14:26.000 There were a bunch of stories recently where they reduced the number and they're like,

00:14:31.000 oops, 200 of those were wrong and then just got rid of them.

00:14:35.000 There was one, I want to be really careful with numbers because we don't have the sources

00:14:38.000 pulled up and I definitely got to be careful there.

00:14:40.000 But there were some stories I saw where a substantive number of the confirmed cases

00:14:44.000 were just wiped out like that was a mistake.

00:14:47.000 And then there was another viral story.

00:14:47.000 Yeah.

00:14:48.000 This is crazy.

00:14:49.000 I think it was in Texas where they said that likely cases are added to the total number of cases.

00:14:55.000 So in order to be a likely case, you had to be in proximity with someone and then have two symptoms.

00:15:02.000 So, like, if you visited your mom, and then a week later your mom said she was, like, sneezing and had a cough, they'd be like, that's a COVID case, and they'd add it to the total.

00:15:12.000 Without testing.

00:15:14.000 But the crazy thing about that is, like, what if they just have allergies?

00:15:17.000 What if it's a cold?

00:15:18.000 I mean, I've had a runny nose for the past four years at this point.

00:15:23.000 So you're patient zero.

00:15:25.000 Yeah, I pretty much am giving you all coronavirus.

00:15:28.000 Oh, okay, cool.

00:15:29.000 Thank you.

00:15:29.000 Gluten intolerance is pretty prevalent in society.

00:15:31.000 That causes people to sneeze and have runny nose and get a fever.

00:15:35.000 I mean, there's hay fever.

00:15:36.000 Yeah, there's seasonal allergies.

00:15:38.000 You hang out with your mom, then you go home and then all of a sudden a flower farts in your face and you're like, it's COVID.

00:15:43.000 That's how it works, yes.

00:15:44.000 I don't know about you guys, but anytime now where I'm in public and I have to sneeze or cough, I try to suppress it.

00:15:49.000 I'm very conscious about it.

00:15:52.000 I'm so ready for this to finish.

00:15:53.000 I don't know about you guys, but when I see people with masks, I just get angry.

00:15:58.000 I get frustrated, sad.

00:15:59.000 I go, I'm so ready for this to finish.

00:16:07.000 I don't know about you guys, but when I, when I see people with masks, I just get angry.

00:16:11.000 I'm get frustrated, sad.

00:16:13.000 I get more sad than anything.

00:16:14.000 And I'm just like, I want to start.

00:16:16.000 Why? 0.72

00:16:17.000 Because it's just, I don't want to speak about my feelings on it publicly without proof or anything, but I just feel like it's so ridiculous and overblown.

00:16:25.000 Like we've gone way too far.

00:16:27.000 We've shut down way too much for something with a 99% recovery rate.

00:16:29.000 Is that what it is?

00:16:30.000 I'm sorry.

00:16:30.000 Oh, come on!

00:16:30.000 No, no, no, wait, wait.

00:16:30.000 It's like 99.5.

00:16:35.000 Oh, no, is it?

00:16:36.000 I think it's super.

00:16:37.000 No, I think it is 99.95.

00:16:38.000 Yeah, it's really, really.

00:16:40.000 And I mean, the thing is, a lot of people are saying, well, is it better if people just, like, would you rather have people just die?

00:16:46.000 And I don't think they understand that people are missing things like cancer screenings, right?

00:16:50.000 There are surgeries that are being delayed.

00:16:52.000 There are people now who won't be able to Do things like pay for their medical bills.

00:16:55.000 It's a lot of a bigger deal than just saying, oh, well, wait to get your hair cut and something like that.

00:17:01.000 And depression, which... Oh, for sure.

00:17:03.000 I don't know how quantifiable it is, but I lost a friend, an old good friend.

00:17:07.000 I'm sure it has something to do with COVID quarantine.

00:17:09.000 You know, whatever it was.

00:17:10.000 People were losing their minds.

00:17:12.000 I mean, during the last recession, like there were actually marked increases in things like suicides, unfortunately, and, you know, alcoholism and all of that stuff.

00:17:20.000 So this is actually it's taking a real human toll.

00:17:22.000 So I agree.

00:17:23.000 And actually, it's kind of depressing because where I live, you know, in Quebec, Montreal, we're actually entering a new phase of lockdowns.

00:17:29.000 Oh, what's it like?

00:17:30.000 Um, well, we, they've just started something like we're in the red zone.

00:17:33.000 So if you're there, uh, restaurants are now closed.

00:17:37.000 I think gyms as well.

00:17:38.000 Schools are staying open, but apparently they're going to be sending cops to schools to keep an eye on the students, make sure that everyone's wearing masks and social distancing.

00:17:46.000 For a while, we've all had to wear masks.

00:17:49.000 It's really, um, I don't know.

00:17:51.000 It's, you know, if I would have seen what was happening now, a year ago, heck even six months ago, I never would have believed it.

00:17:58.000 So you know what happened?

00:18:00.000 You're only allowed to say the world is ending.

00:18:03.000 You're not allowed to say, hey, maybe this is overblown.

00:18:05.000 Because if you do, you run the risk of being banned.

00:18:07.000 There have been a ton of YouTubers that have been instantly banned.

00:18:10.000 No strikes, no warning, just gone.

00:18:12.000 Because they'll put out a video questioning masks or something.

00:18:15.000 So if you're not allowed to have any conversation at all about maybe we went too far, Then the only thing anyone ever sees is the end is nigh, it's getting worse, it's getting worse.

00:18:25.000 When if you actually look at the data, you're like, oh man, we flattened the curve a long time ago.

00:18:30.000 So we saw Rick DeSantis in Florida.

00:18:32.000 He was like, COVID lockdown, done, gone, in every capacity, over.

00:18:37.000 We just had, in Michigan, the Supreme Court of Michigan ruled all of the lockdown stuff unconstitutional.

00:18:44.000 So what did the governor say?

00:18:45.000 Don't care.

00:18:47.000 I'm gonna go forward anyway because we have 21 days before this goes into effect.

00:18:51.000 And apparently that's actually part of... the governor has 21 days to appeal, essentially, or call for a hearing to challenge the Supreme Court's ruling.

00:18:59.000 If she's straight up saying, well, then technically I can just keep doing whatever I want for 21 days, she's clearly just defying the law. 0.66

00:19:05.000 And that's crazy.

00:19:07.000 A governor basically going rogue.

00:19:08.000 But so, the Attorney General said, nah, we're not enforcing any of this anymore.

00:19:11.000 So it's all breaking apart now.

00:19:13.000 Cuomo, though, in New York, is gonna be re-upping all this stuff.

00:19:17.000 And I think 12,000 bars are expected to be completely destroyed.

00:19:22.000 Right.

00:19:23.000 And restaurants.

00:19:24.000 The economy in New York is just destroying it to the best of their abilities, and it's Cuomo's fault.

00:19:30.000 You know, a good portion of the deaths were nursing home deaths, and Cuomo was putting sick people in nursing homes.

00:19:35.000 Did you see he tried denying it?

00:19:36.000 Yeah.

00:19:36.000 He's like, that never happened!

00:19:38.000 And then a bunch of journalists were like, uh.

00:19:40.000 This was really recently.

00:19:42.000 We were able to.

00:19:43.000 Yeah.

00:19:43.000 That's what that's what frustrates me about.

00:19:45.000 There are these like blue Twitter quote journalist checkmarks who love to blame as like 200,000 coronavirus deaths on Trump as if somehow Trump, if you were more competent, would be able to be the only country pretty much with zero coronavirus deaths.

00:20:01.000 And they'd also they also don't talk about where all these deaths are coming from.

00:20:04.000 Places like New York.

00:20:05.000 Right.

00:20:05.000 I mean, no one forced Cuomo to do that.

00:20:08.000 No, that was like Cuomo with Joker makeup on being like, if I put sick COVID people into nursing homes, come on, man. 0.99

00:20:17.000 I don't think anyone in their right mind could assume that that was innocent.

00:20:24.000 It was just an honest mistake.

00:20:26.000 I mean, it's the most vulnerable population when it comes to COVID.

00:20:29.000 Why wouldn't I put a person who's got COVID into the nursing home?

00:20:33.000 Why did he do it?

00:20:35.000 I don't know.

00:20:36.000 I don't think he has a real reason.

00:20:37.000 Maybe he's trying to rescue, like, their state entitlement program or something?

00:20:40.000 I don't know.

00:20:40.000 No, he's saying it never happened.

00:20:42.000 That's the crazy thing.

00:20:43.000 Now, like, he did an interview and he's like, that never happened.

00:20:45.000 And they're like, oh, actually, nope, never happened.

00:20:47.000 You're wrong.

00:20:48.000 And they're like, actually, nope, wrong.

00:20:49.000 Wrong.

00:20:51.000 Hey, but on the upside, the curve is flattened, according to the data.

00:20:55.000 From months ago, yeah, it's been flat for a long time.

00:20:57.000 So we're suffering economic now, but people actually are not suffering nearly what they were.

00:21:02.000 Yeah, like, so COVID was... So the issue is, I think we've got really short memories in this year, I guess.

00:21:10.000 Yeah.

00:21:12.000 Before this all kicked off, it was conservatives that were actually the most concerned at first.

00:21:17.000 And I made several videos.

00:21:18.000 I made a couple of videos in January that were like approved.

00:21:22.000 And I was like, whoa, something crazy is happening in, in Wuhan.

00:21:25.000 And then after COVID got crazy, they actually demonetized it after the fact, because it's like, all of a sudden now you can't talk about COVID.

00:21:31.000 It was really weird because it was before it made its way here, but it was a global pandemic.

00:21:36.000 So it was a mass casualty incident.

00:21:37.000 And then once it became really obvious, it was affecting everybody.

00:21:39.000 Like, okay, fine.

00:21:40.000 We're going to monetize this content again.

00:21:42.000 So early on, conservatives were very concerned.

00:21:44.000 Tucker Carlson flew to Mar-a-Lago to talk to Trump, and was like, yo, this is serious.

00:21:48.000 So Trump did all these things, started the task force, banned travel to China, for the most part.

00:21:52.000 I love how they say, no, he didn't, because this, that, and this.

00:21:54.000 Okay, dude.

00:21:56.000 He banned travel, except for people who were returning back, and for, I think, like, official business.

00:22:01.000 And then he put heavy restrictions on European travel.

00:22:04.000 Fauci, in March, said, what the administration is doing is wonderful, and I don't think anyone could do better.

00:22:10.000 And the New York Times had this slider bar where you could be like, if the mortality rate is 3%, here's how many dead and it's like 6 million.

00:22:19.000 How many people are dead now?

00:22:19.000 200,000.

00:22:20.000 So here's what ends up happening.

00:22:23.000 You go to these conservatives who read that news and saw what Trump was saying, and then they look at the media, like the New York Times, saying, potential is 2 million deaths.

00:22:33.000 Trump says, we're at 200,000.

00:22:34.000 It's horrible, but it's way better than 2 million.

00:22:37.000 The pollsters then ask the conservative, do you think 200,000 dead is acceptable?

00:22:41.000 And they say, yes, it is.

00:22:43.000 And then the Democrats go, oh no!

00:22:47.000 Isn't it true that 94% of those 200,000 had comorbidities?

00:22:52.000 Yeah.

00:22:53.000 On average of two to three more.

00:22:55.000 Yeah.

00:22:56.000 So what's really interesting about the comorbidities thing is that COVID killed them.

00:23:00.000 But many of these people, with all due respect, were not long for this world.

00:23:03.000 Or COVID was in their system when something killed them.

00:23:05.000 No, COVID did kill them.

00:23:07.000 So the comorbidities means COVID is the factor.

00:23:10.000 But if it was like, they were, they had like terminal heart disease and then they got COVID.

00:23:13.000 Some people had advanced renal failure.

00:23:16.000 Like, dude.

00:23:18.000 So, so for sure.

00:23:20.000 And there, there were some instances, I think it was in Florida where like a guy got in a motorcycle accident and they were like, Oh, come on.

00:23:25.000 No joke.

00:23:25.000 Yeah.

00:23:26.000 In Illinois, there's a video on this.

00:23:28.000 Adam was going nuts on this one, showing the video, being like, look at what she's saying.

00:23:32.000 It was a press conference where one of the top medical people in the Illinois government was saying, if someone dies, and then we discover they had COVID in the system, it's a COVID death.

00:23:42.000 And she goes, for instance, if a car accident, there's literally a press conference where she says this.

00:23:48.000 So, however, however, I think you've got, uh, it's, it's, there's no conspiracy. 0.99

00:23:54.000 It's just people are kind of dumb. 0.55

00:23:56.000 You know, it's, you know, the crazy thing to me about all of this stuff, especially with the conspiracy theories, is this idea that there's always someone who's super powerful. 1.00

00:24:03.000 It's like, haven't, haven't these people realized yet that you're an adult and everyone around you is just like equally dumb? 0.76

00:24:09.000 You know what I mean? 0.90

00:24:10.000 It's like at a certain point, I remember when I was growing up, I always have questions.

00:24:13.000 I'd be like, how does this work?

00:24:14.000 How does that work?

00:24:15.000 And then, you know, my dad always had answers for me when I was, like, a, you know, teenager.

00:24:18.000 Like, how does this?

00:24:19.000 He's like, oh, well.

00:24:20.000 And then it got to a point where I was, like, in my 20s, and I'm like, how does this work?

00:24:22.000 And I'd ask some, like, advanced government questions.

00:24:24.000 I have no idea.

00:24:25.000 And I'd be like, oh, I guess I'm an adult now.

00:24:27.000 I gotta figure things out for myself.

00:24:29.000 But that's when I kinda realized, like, The level of my understanding and everyone else, it's like fairly equal now.

00:24:36.000 You know, in various respects, like I'm not gonna pretend to be a doctor.

00:24:39.000 You know, doctors know more than I do.

00:24:41.000 And I think a lot of people aren't journalists and kind of think they know everything, but there's a lot of people think they know everything.

00:24:45.000 But we're getting to this point now where it's like, dude, if you can't pull off a grand conspiracy to like flub all these numbers nationwide, I don't think they can either.

00:24:55.000 They could be like wealthy and evil and have a lot of friends and they're still not going to pull off any kind of grand conspiracy. 1.00

00:25:01.000 What I think really happens is that these people are panicky, lazy, and dumb. 0.99

00:25:05.000 I mean, here's the simple solution to all of this. 1.00

00:25:08.000 People in government are ineffective.

00:25:10.000 That's the way it is.

00:25:12.000 If you've got a competition in market, you might get talent, but for the most part, you got people who are like, yeah, somebody died.

00:25:18.000 Oh, it says COVID on the chart.

00:25:19.000 They put it in.

00:25:20.000 And then later someone's like, Hey, that guy died in a motorcycle accident.

00:25:22.000 Ah.

00:25:24.000 Oops.

00:25:25.000 Happens all the time.

00:25:26.000 I think, uh, panicky is a great word.

00:25:29.000 Panicky?

00:25:29.000 Yeah.

00:25:30.000 A lot of these people are panicking.

00:25:32.000 Like, did you see the cops arresting the pregnant woman in Australia on the beach?

00:25:36.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:36.000 Oh, I didn't see that.

00:25:38.000 She just screamed she's pregnant. 1.00

00:25:39.000 And her sister's like, she's pregnant. 0.76

00:25:41.000 Because she wasn't wearing a mask or something like that.

00:25:42.000 Yeah.

00:25:42.000 And there's also been, uh, it was, uh, like, I think a child at, uh, gosh, it was some sort of sporting event.

00:25:49.000 I think she was on the bleachers.

00:25:50.000 She wasn't wearing the mask and the security guard got, like, freaked out.

00:25:53.000 It's like, Okay, say that there is this huge risk of coronavirus contaminating you because she's not wearing a mask.

00:25:58.000 Is what you want to do really get into like a physical confrontation with them?

00:26:04.000 That's why I really love the old toilet paper videos.

00:26:06.000 Remember that?

00:26:07.000 Like earlier in the year when people were running full speed.

00:26:10.000 So it's like, we have a pandemic coming and it is a very serious illness.

00:26:14.000 And then a video of like a hundred people shoulder to shoulder, like brawling for toilet paper.

00:26:18.000 And it's like, y'all are going to get sick, you know?

00:26:21.000 That was a huge wake-up call for me, though, because I realized a lot of people are living toilet paper roll to toilet paper roll.

00:26:27.000 I don't know, I stock up.

00:26:28.000 I have just a lot of it, and I'm like, what are you people who always use it?

00:26:33.000 When we drove out to do the Rogan show, on the way back, we were in Arizona, in some little bumpkin town. 1.00

00:26:41.000 We go to the gas station, nobody wearing masks.

00:26:43.000 Everything was normal and I was wearing a mask and I was like, oh, I walked up and I was like, nobody, I went to the lady, the cleric, and I was like, nobody's wearing masks.

00:26:51.000 And she's like, ah, we don't care.

00:26:53.000 I was like, huh?

00:26:54.000 And I was like, you're not concerned about what's going on?

00:26:55.000 I mean, people are fighting over toilet paper.

00:26:57.000 And she laughed.

00:26:57.000 She's like, oh honey, we're preppers.

00:27:00.000 It was like a small town and then she told me this funny story.

00:27:02.000 She was like, I remember when we saw these videos of people fighting over toilet paper.

00:27:06.000 My husband looks at me and he goes, you think we got enough toilet paper?

00:27:09.000 And she's like, are you kidding?

00:27:10.000 We got three months.

00:27:12.000 We're preppers.

00:27:12.000 And he went, oh yeah.

00:27:13.000 Yeah.

00:27:13.000 That's what I mean.

00:27:15.000 Like Liam, my fiance producer, he, he kind of makes fun of me for being a prepper because I mean, I'm not hardcore.

00:27:20.000 I don't have a bunker.

00:27:21.000 I would if I could, but I don't right now.

00:27:23.000 But it's like, yeah, like my family, we have, We have water, we have toilet paper, we have like medications, we have some emergency rations.

00:27:31.000 I would love for more, but you know, we are prepared a little bit and I did feel this little sense of indication like, haha, who's crazy now?

00:27:38.000 Some good things to get are salt and honey.

00:27:41.000 Yeah.

00:27:41.000 They never go bad.

00:27:42.000 Honey for sure.

00:27:43.000 Vinegar too.

00:27:43.000 And actually some companies sell like seed collections.

00:27:47.000 All things that you can grow really easily.

00:27:50.000 You bought one, didn't you?

00:27:51.000 Yeah, that's awesome.

00:27:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:52.000 I want ham.

00:27:53.000 Yeah, because we're waiting for... I don't think COVID is going to do anything.

00:27:57.000 I don't think there's going to be any kind of massive unrest.

00:27:59.000 I think people are going to will the asteroid into existence to finally come in.

00:28:03.000 Or solar flare.

00:28:04.000 Or I mean, there's so many things that could knock out the power grid for like six weeks or two weeks.

00:28:08.000 This is what people don't realize.

00:28:08.000 No, no, no, no.

00:28:10.000 This is why, like, OK, so I did a promo several times for food buckets, like the emergency food last 25, 25 years or whatever.

00:28:16.000 Oh yeah!

00:28:16.000 Yeah.

00:28:16.000 In Iowa.

00:28:17.000 like, ha ha ha. And I'm like, dude, sometimes it rains.

00:28:17.000 Yeah.

00:28:19.000 Yeah. It's like you watch you watch these videos and it's like a flood happened and people have

00:28:22.000 been trapped in their homes for two weeks. I'm like, I hope they have food. Were you

00:28:26.000 guys aware like the Midwest, how it got just massively flooded earlier in the year? Yeah.

00:28:31.000 Didn't get a lot of media attention because it's because stunned silence, but because

00:28:35.000 sometimes it rains. So like, even though when we have these disasters, it's not, it's not

00:28:39.000 news to most of these outlets.

00:28:41.000 They're like, I don't know, if we told people it was raining really bad and there was a flood, they'd be like, yeah, that happens all the time.

00:28:46.000 It's like, it doesn't, it doesn't affect me.

00:28:47.000 It doesn't interest me.

00:28:49.000 So you actually have a lot of people, this is what I never understood about this stuff is like, aren't you concerned that you might get stuck in a blizzard?

00:28:56.000 Cause like that happens all the time in the Midwest.

00:28:57.000 Right, and it happens all the time like in Canada too and where I live.

00:29:00.000 I used to live like behind a farm and in front of a slightly bigger farm.

00:29:04.000 We would lose power all the time.

00:29:05.000 Sometimes for days, you know, very common have backup generators, food that's easy to prepare and things like that because you just you never know.

00:29:12.000 And I feel like, you know, hearing people in the city, Kind of try to tell people who actually have to deal with these situations.

00:29:19.000 Oh, you don't need that You're just you're being overly precautious paranoid, whatever It's like you don't know and I think some of them got a huge wake-up call when the whole kovat thing happened because I'm guns Yeah, they bought guns and they bought toilet paper because they're in these little little tiny apartments where you can't really store anything, right?

00:29:34.000 You can't have food storage.

00:29:35.000 You can't have a generator.

00:29:36.000 You can't have guns because you're not allowed to and like yeah, they're vulnerable and They're living on top of each other in concrete cubicles where everything smells like sour milk.

00:29:43.000 Yeah, live in the pod.

00:29:44.000 Yeah, live in the pod.

00:29:45.000 Bend the knee.

00:29:47.000 What I really love the most is when it comes to telling people to get a bucket of emergency food, that's the very centrist approach to prepping.

00:29:56.000 So I have all these conservatives laughing, being like...

00:30:00.000 a food bucket.

00:30:01.000 I got a storage facility.

00:30:02.000 I got 1000 rounds per gun.

00:30:03.000 I got 20 guns.

00:30:04.000 And I'm like, okay, okay, I'll do better. 1.00

00:30:06.000 And then the city people, the leftists are like, what a moron buying these buckets. 1.00

00:30:10.000 Oh, you're so dumb. 1.00

00:30:11.000 I have Uber Eats. 1.00

00:30:12.000 I don't need that.

00:30:13.000 Yeah, right.

00:30:13.000 So but here's what I love.

00:30:15.000 So our friend Luke over at We Are Change has been doing survivalist training, like awesome.

00:30:20.000 He's got like, he's doing like rifle training.

00:30:22.000 He's filming all of it.

00:30:23.000 It's pretty cool.

00:30:24.000 And then someone commented, Tim Pool's virgin food buckets versus Luke's chad survivalist training.

00:30:30.000 And I'm like, okay, dude.

00:30:33.000 Yeah, it was really funny.

00:30:34.000 He's got an RV.

00:30:34.000 We found the RV hookups.

00:30:36.000 So Luke, come on, show me how to shoot.

00:30:38.000 Yeah.

00:30:39.000 Actually, my fiancé bought his first gun and like he was, we'd done our like firearm certification course thing because we're in Canada.

00:30:47.000 They're weird with guns.

00:30:48.000 We'd done it a while ago, but like everything going on, it kind of spurred him on to, Get his own and we have we have a couple as well.

00:30:55.000 And yeah, I don't know.

00:30:55.000 It's just it's good to be prepared.

00:30:57.000 Personally, I don't know.

00:30:58.000 You have an Asian background too.

00:30:59.000 You can weigh in on this.

00:31:00.000 I think I would do well in an apocalypse because I'd eat anything.

00:31:04.000 Yeah, I would eat.

00:31:05.000 Except milk and red wine.

00:31:07.000 Yeah.

00:31:07.000 Well, you know, upset the tummy.

00:31:08.000 But I mean, aside from that, I'm scrappy.

00:31:10.000 I think I would do well.

00:31:12.000 What does being Asian have to do with that? 0.60

00:31:13.000 You'd eat anything, right?

00:31:15.000 I guess.

00:31:15.000 Is that an Asian thing?

00:31:16.000 Well, I don't know.

00:31:18.000 My fiancé, he'll like freak out about the weirdest things.

00:31:21.000 Maybe that's true.

00:31:22.000 He doesn't want to eat bugs.

00:31:24.000 I know that's like a big deal for people.

00:31:26.000 They're like, how could they're trying to make us eat bugs?

00:31:28.000 I agree that the paw thing is disappointed.

00:31:30.000 I would totally eat bugs.

00:31:32.000 I got no problem with bugs.

00:31:32.000 Right?

00:31:33.000 No problem with bugs.

00:31:34.000 Yeah, why not?

00:31:34.000 What about you, Ian?

00:31:35.000 I'd eat bugs.

00:31:36.000 Yeah, see?

00:31:36.000 I want to eat grass.

00:31:37.000 And you're white. 0.77

00:31:38.000 Yeah, I want to learn how to eat grass. 0.61

00:31:40.000 I think you eat it and you'll puke, but then you eat it again, and then you'll puke, and then your body slowly, you boil it in some tea with some lemon and some salt, if you have access to it.

00:31:48.000 Adaptive products.

00:31:49.000 You gotta break down the cellulose.

00:31:50.000 Yeah, I think tea, grass tea, is the way to go.

00:31:53.000 But people should be able to, if we can learn to subsist off grass, I think human rights is going to be okay.

00:31:57.000 I think we subsist off grass by having cows eat it, and then we eat the cow.

00:32:03.000 I agree.

00:32:04.000 I like your philosophy.

00:32:05.000 I did the carnivore diet for several months, and that was an experience.

00:32:09.000 Then what was that like?

00:32:11.000 I have never felt so good in my entire life.

00:32:13.000 Really?

00:32:13.000 Yeah.

00:32:14.000 Like I was telling you, I've had the sniffles for pretty much forever, and I have the immune system of a bubble boy.

00:32:20.000 I get sick all the time.

00:32:21.000 I have trouble sleeping, anxiety.

00:32:24.000 I mean, not serious stuff, but stuff over the past couple years where I don't feel my best.

00:32:29.000 But on Carnivore I had energy, no problem sleeping, waking up early.

00:32:33.000 I just felt amazing.

00:32:35.000 But it's sad because I love carbs.

00:32:36.000 So why did you get off the Carnivore diet?

00:32:39.000 Because I love carbs.

00:32:40.000 You're an addict.

00:32:42.000 I know. 0.98

00:32:42.000 I totally am. 0.98

00:32:43.000 I went through sugar withdrawals.

00:32:45.000 I don't smoke.

00:32:46.000 I don't drink.

00:32:47.000 I don't even drink coffee.

00:32:49.000 I used to think that I was pretty clean living.

00:32:53.000 I don't have any addictions.

00:32:54.000 That's not true. 0.96

00:32:56.000 I would have stabbed a homeless person or a pizza crust. 0.96

00:33:00.000 No, it was bad. 0.88

00:33:01.000 Gluten, the United States has basically been telling us to eat it on the food pyramid and stuff because that's what is grown in the United States.

00:33:07.000 Yeah.

00:33:07.000 So it's like a business, but it's not good for the body.

00:33:11.000 Corn, man.

00:33:11.000 Corn everything.

00:33:12.000 We feed fish corn.

00:33:14.000 Subsidized.

00:33:14.000 And wheat, like, oh, it's so cloggy and like, ew, mucusy.

00:33:19.000 But I remember, this was a big fad.

00:33:20.000 Everyone was doing the carnivore diet, but then everyone stopped doing it.

00:33:23.000 So I'm kind of like, yo.

00:33:25.000 So what is it?

00:33:25.000 Is it just pure meat?

00:33:26.000 Yeah, it's just pure meat.

00:33:27.000 And also, I'm hoping that next year is the year I get pregnant. 0.97

00:33:34.000 But also, as good as I felt, I don't feel comfortable.

00:33:38.000 They say if you have a really restrictive diet when you're pregnant, it can lead to things like allergies and stuff like that. 0.99

00:33:42.000 I don't want my kid to be allergic to anything, so I want to be eating everything while I'm pregnant.

00:33:47.000 Peanut butter.

00:33:47.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:48.000 A lot of peanut butter.

00:33:49.000 Shrimp.

00:33:50.000 Speaking of, what kind of power structure do you have in your house?

00:33:52.000 I was gonna say Thai food.

00:33:54.000 Yeah, man, I'd be miserable if I was allergic to peanut butter.

00:33:56.000 Because peanut butter is just, it's the best.

00:33:58.000 You put it on everything.

00:33:59.000 Yeah, how did we get into this conversation?

00:34:01.000 Like, what are we?

00:34:02.000 Survival food.

00:34:03.000 Toilet paper.

00:34:03.000 Toilet paper, yes.

00:34:05.000 The apocalypse, toilet paper.

00:34:06.000 Speaking of, what kind of power structure do you have in your house?

00:34:08.000 Do you use solar now?

00:34:10.000 Oh, right now we just use regular.

00:34:12.000 But my fiance and I, so he's indigenous.

00:34:14.000 And they have his tribe, they have essentially a thing where

00:34:19.000 they'll give you land if you build on it.

00:34:22.000 Right, just like here's some land, go ahead and it's by this beautiful, beautiful lake.

00:34:26.000 It's like a lakefront property.

00:34:28.000 So we've been looking at like prefab houses over there.

00:34:30.000 You don't pay any taxes.

00:34:32.000 So we've been looking at prefab houses to put up there and like, you know, I would love to get solar or something up there and kind of be off the grid.

00:34:38.000 You get like a modular shipping container, super high tech.

00:34:42.000 Well, actually they have really, really nice prefab houses now.

00:34:45.000 Like they have ones with like stone detailing.

00:34:48.000 They have ones that are like two stories.

00:34:50.000 They have like really, really beautiful ones that you wouldn't even tell were prefab, but they're just cheaper because they, you know, they build them in bulk and stuff like that.

00:34:56.000 Have you guys seen the 3D printed house?

00:34:59.000 Yeah, it's like a gigantic machine that sprays concrete and then it just like draws the house and then they frame over it.

00:35:06.000 It's crazy.

00:35:07.000 That's awesome.

00:35:08.000 Yeah.

00:35:08.000 We're on the verge of something big.

00:35:10.000 Yeah, unless, you know, we get wiped out by civil war, the apocalypse, a solar flare.

00:35:14.000 That would also be something big.

00:35:18.000 So we've been, uh, I know a lot of people, it's a meme, Tim Pool talking about civil war, but with the, uh, the election coming up, I want to, I wanted to ask you specifically about this cause you're Canadian.

00:35:28.000 What's your perspective on what's happening here?

00:35:30.000 The escalation of violence, right?

00:35:33.000 So recently we've had a bunch of Trump rallies, and then the left shows up and starts attacking the Trump supporters.

00:35:38.000 And now you've got these stories popping up in mainstream news that right-wing militias are coming and they're gonna take over, and it's like they're not even anywhere in sight.

00:35:45.000 Who are these people?

00:35:47.000 But I'm curious, based on your perspective as a Canadian, what you think's gonna happen.

00:35:50.000 Well, I mean, the thing with American politics is that it's kind of like an STD.

00:35:55.000 It spreads.

00:35:58.000 What starts in American politics is going to infect the rest of the country.

00:36:01.000 And I use the word infect very consciously.

00:36:03.000 Look at things like critical race theory, right?

00:36:05.000 That's everywhere.

00:36:06.000 It started off in academia and I think kind of like, well, I mean, there's argument to me to be made like the Frankfurt School of German and stuff.

00:36:12.000 But I think, you know, a lot of it has come from Americans and now it's all over the Western world.

00:36:18.000 And I mean, we see the same thing with like, let's take Black Lives Matter.

00:36:21.000 There are Black Lives Matter protests in Montreal.

00:36:24.000 In Toronto, we've seen them in Europe.

00:36:26.000 So it's everywhere.

00:36:27.000 And you know, with these Antifa groups, they're getting bolder in the US.

00:36:30.000 Again, we're seeing that in places like Montreal, like Toronto.

00:36:34.000 So you know, when we see this escalation happening in the United States, it's only a matter of time before it kind of spreads, especially in Canada, we're so close.

00:36:41.000 And culturally, like very, very similar, especially with social media.

00:36:44.000 So it's kind of scary to see.

00:36:47.000 Because even in Canada, our last election cycle, Canadians are pretty apathetic about politics, you know, for better or worse.

00:36:54.000 You know, because it's nice we don't really riot as much, but it's also concerning because there are a lot of problems that people don't talk about.

00:37:01.000 But yeah, this past election cycle was the first time it actually kind of felt almost like an American one.

00:37:05.000 Like, you know, people were there.

00:37:07.000 Like, well, the Hamilton event, I don't know if you saw with Dave Rubin and Maxime Bernier, there were Antifa people.

00:37:12.000 Oh, that's right.

00:37:13.000 They attacked that old guy.

00:37:14.000 Yeah, well, that happened in Canada.

00:37:18.000 So I think, especially with the whole Barrett situation coming up, things are just going to get worse.

00:37:22.000 There's going to be more and more tension.

00:37:24.000 Barrett?

00:37:24.000 Tony Barrett.

00:37:25.000 Yeah, with the Supreme Court pick, right?

00:37:28.000 Regardless of what happens, if they don't manage to get her through before the election, then the Democrats are going to be galvanized, and if they do manage to get her through, then Democrats are going to think that... Handmaid's Tale.

00:37:38.000 I read once that there was like a ruling from a high court in Canada that saying sorry was not an admission of guilt.

00:37:44.000 I don't know if that's true or just a meme.

00:37:45.000 I'm not sure I haven't heard.

00:37:46.000 I wouldn't be surprised though.

00:37:48.000 Right, because that's like the meme about Canada.

00:37:52.000 But actually Canada, it's kind of disappointing because I mean on the surface level we're pretty free and don't get me wrong, if you're a Canadian you're still very very lucky.

00:38:01.000 But the thing you have to understand about Canada is that right to self-defense, not a thing.

00:38:06.000 Right to bear arms, not a thing.

00:38:07.000 Even your right to freedom of speech, not really a thing.

00:38:10.000 We have this thing called the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but every essential right and freedom kind of has a little asterisk next to it saying, subject to the whims of the government.

00:38:19.000 Right?

00:38:20.000 Yeah.

00:38:20.000 It's part of the British Commonwealth.

00:38:22.000 Yeah, and a lot of the law is kind of based on like... Is it still though?

00:38:26.000 I thought they left... Well, no, our head of state is still technically the queen.

00:38:30.000 She's still on all of our money. 1.00

00:38:32.000 Yeah, that's weird.

00:38:32.000 And she appoints someone to run.

00:38:36.000 You guys vote for Trudeau, right?

00:38:38.000 Yeah, we vote for whoever.

00:38:39.000 We have the parliamentary system, which I think is inferior because the administrative head is also the legislative head and you don't actually vote for a prime minister, you vote for the party and whoever gets whatever party gets the most

00:38:53.000 votes the head of that party becomes the prime minister.

00:38:55.000 So for example if I'm an American I can completely and I'm able to in my own local district vote for let's say a

00:39:02.000 democrat but then for president I want Trump and I want them to be able to have that check and balance system

00:39:07.000 between the parties.

00:39:08.000 You can't do that in Canada.

00:39:10.000 Oh wow.

00:39:11.000 Yeah.

00:39:11.000 And now you're stuck with Trudeau.

00:39:13.000 I feel bad for you guys.

00:39:13.000 Prime Minister Blackface, but he's dreamy.

00:39:15.000 Yeah, he's dreamy.

00:39:17.000 And actually, we were talking about all the economic hardships that corona is causing.

00:39:21.000 He recently pledged to donate 400 million Canadian dollars to fight COVID abroad.

00:39:27.000 Oh, but that's like 10 bucks.

00:39:28.000 But yeah, this happening as so many Canadians and so many Canadian businesses are facing bankruptcies and we're having a lot of economic problems, but it's okay because he's taking care of the world.

00:39:41.000 Is his hand held by the Queen?

00:39:43.000 How does that work?

00:39:43.000 How much autonomy does he have?

00:39:45.000 Oh, he has total autonomy.

00:39:46.000 I mean, it's largely ceremonial.

00:39:48.000 I mean, don't get me wrong, if I were somehow crowned monarch of England, I would reform the Commonwealth.

00:39:52.000 I would get things going again.

00:39:54.000 Does she control the military? 1.00

00:39:56.000 She controls the military of Australia, I'm pretty sure. 0.85

00:39:58.000 I'm not sure about Australia, but I know for Canada, it's, it's largely ceremonial.

00:40:02.000 I mean, like on the books, she is technically, but it's, it's not something that's... People wouldn't go for it.

00:40:08.000 I was talking to some British people too, and I asked them like, what would happen if the Queen actually intervened in affairs?

00:40:13.000 And they were like, people would probably snap and flip out.

00:40:15.000 Like it's, it's, it's, she's, you know, she's the head of state.

00:40:18.000 She does have the power, but she never uses it. 0.87

00:40:20.000 It's largely viewed as like, never going to happen.

00:40:23.000 Yeah.

00:40:24.000 She's essentially like a figurehead and a tourist attraction at this point. 0.71

00:40:27.000 You know what the problem is with all of our leaders?

00:40:31.000 No, not Trump.

00:40:33.000 Trudeau and the Democrats.

00:40:35.000 They're not leaders.

00:40:36.000 They don't want to take responsibility for anything that happens.

00:40:39.000 So they're playing it perfectly.

00:40:42.000 If the businesses get wiped out, they can say, Oh, but, but COVID, you know, we had locked down.

00:40:47.000 If they release the lockdown, someone dies, they'll get blamed.

00:40:50.000 So that's the best thing they can do is just say, well, we had to lock down as a pandemic.

00:40:55.000 And then as everyone's lives are destroyed and businesses are wiped out, they can say, Oh, don't look at me.

00:40:59.000 It was COVID.

00:40:59.000 Yeah.

00:41:00.000 Yeah.

00:41:00.000 But then if people die, they'll say, why didn't you do this?

00:41:02.000 Why didn't you do that?

00:41:03.000 So they're basically use the heaviest hand possible to absolve myself of any at all leadership and responsibility.

00:41:09.000 And then you get someone like Trump, who of course is far from perfect, but he's saying like, we got to keep the economy going.

00:41:14.000 And you had all of these, these, these stories coming out.

00:41:16.000 You had the UN, I guess, saying a study, 250 million people could die from starvation because the economy grinding to a halt.

00:41:22.000 And this is why doctors should not choose how to like doctors don't run countries.

00:41:27.000 Yes.

00:41:27.000 So like you have Fauci saying all these great things, you know, early on, Donald Trump's doing a great job.

00:41:31.000 Okay.

00:41:32.000 That's wonderful.

00:41:32.000 Then later on, he's like, well, here's what we should have done.

00:41:35.000 There are reasons why we elect people to represent us to make decisions.

00:41:39.000 And we don't just have appointed doctors because the doctor doesn't understand how banking works.

00:41:43.000 Doctor doesn't understand how business in New York works.

00:41:46.000 The doctor's gonna be like, this virus will kill these people.

00:41:48.000 We gotta shut down to stop these people from dying.

00:41:50.000 Then the economists are gonna say, hmm, that's interesting.

00:41:53.000 We're gonna lose twice as many people if the economy shuts down.

00:41:55.000 Because starvation, homelessness, sickness, depression, suicide.

00:41:59.000 Oh yeah, all that stuff.

00:42:00.000 And it's all just... The only thing we end up hearing is, and I love this part, where they're like, you must listen to the science and listen to the doctors.

00:42:08.000 It's like, okay.

00:42:09.000 Alright.

00:42:10.000 Then Trump's doctors come out and they're like, he's okay to leave, everything's great, and they're like, No!

00:42:14.000 He's sick! 1.00

00:42:15.000 He's gonna kill people! 1.00

00:42:17.000 There's actually somebody tweeted, you know, Trump is going to kill people by leaving. 0.99

00:42:20.000 And I'm like, you know what, man, there is a tweet for every circumstance about Trump and whatever.

00:42:26.000 And it's like, they, they've done everything in their power to make sure he cannot actually do anything, but they're not doing anything.

00:42:32.000 So, you know, it reminds me of, it reminds me of like a dad, like, you know, walking to the backyard to like, I don't know, fire up the grill and the kids are holding on his legs screaming.

00:42:40.000 And he's like, trying to walk and the kids won't let go.

00:42:44.000 And you're really annoying.

00:42:45.000 That's basically what's going on in my opinion.

00:42:48.000 Who do you think are some great leaders in the world?

00:42:51.000 Man, I don't know.

00:42:55.000 That's a tough one.

00:42:56.000 If you had to pick three.

00:42:57.000 Like define leader, I guess.

00:42:58.000 You define it.

00:43:00.000 Oh man, good leaders.

00:43:02.000 Not followers.

00:43:03.000 I don't know.

00:43:03.000 What do you think?

00:43:04.000 You're the guest.

00:43:04.000 You take the responsibility.

00:43:05.000 There are certain politicians that I like, but unfortunately for me, they don't always tend to win, so I don't know if you can call them leaders.

00:43:13.000 Rand Paul.

00:43:14.000 Oh, yes.

00:43:15.000 Yeah, definitely Rand Paul.

00:43:16.000 Rand Paul I like.

00:43:17.000 Maxime Bernier, who's Canadian, he tried to start up the only actual libertarian center-right party in Canada, because the Conservatives in Canada are I mean they're essentially Democrats.

00:43:28.000 It's still Canada.

00:43:30.000 Him I like.

00:43:32.000 Let's see a third one.

00:43:33.000 Let's see.

00:43:33.000 Anyone in Europe that's cool?

00:43:36.000 Yeah, Viktor Orban, he's kind of authoritarian though, but I like a lot of what he does.

00:43:42.000 Like, I don't know enough about him to say I support him because, you know, I'm sure there's probably things that I don't condone.

00:43:49.000 But I mean, overall, I think, you know, when it comes to things like immigration, they've at least been listening to their people, which is something that a lot of people, I think, in Canada and the U.S.

00:43:59.000 don't feel like is happening.

00:44:00.000 I guess the question is like what, like a good leader is an opinion, right?

00:44:04.000 Yeah.

00:44:05.000 There's reasons to say why the Democrats that are obstructing Trump in a million ways, you could argue is a good thing.

00:44:12.000 I personally don't think so, but I'm sure they could come up with something like, oh, but you know, putting a check

00:44:16.000 on executive authority is important no matter what.

00:44:18.000 And I'm kind of like, yeah, but you know, jamming a wrench in the spokes for the sake of damaging the spokes isn't,

00:44:23.000 you know, real leadership.

00:44:24.000 But I'm sure someone could argue something like that.

00:44:26.000 You could argue that Vladimir Putin is very strong and he makes Russia strong.

00:44:29.000 Yeah, he's efficient.

00:44:30.000 Right.

00:44:31.000 He's an efficient leader.

00:44:32.000 Xi Jinping.

00:44:33.000 Yeah, also efficient.

00:44:34.000 Hey, look, look.

00:44:35.000 China is dominating. 0.55

00:44:38.000 And so, sure, they've got concentration camps.

00:44:41.000 The question is, like, what constitutes a good leader?

00:44:43.000 From an American perspective, it's very, very different from what other people in the world would say for sure.

00:44:48.000 I don't think those people are good leaders, by the way.

00:44:50.000 I think into, like, the private sector.

00:44:51.000 Like, Elon Musk, strikes me as a leader.

00:44:54.000 Jeff Bezos is a leader.

00:44:56.000 People, a lot of them, might get down on me for saying that about Jeff, but I mean, he's got blue, what's that blue, what's his space program called?

00:45:02.000 You know, I've been spending a lot of time on Facebook and I just really like Mark Zuckerberg.

00:45:06.000 Mark Zuckerberg is the greatest leader.

00:45:09.000 Susan Wojcicki is great.

00:45:10.000 We must all vote Zuckerberg.

00:45:11.000 Do you find great leaders in the private sector?

00:45:13.000 Do you think they gravitate towards politics or maybe... because I don't know, sometimes I think leaders can lead from behind, sometimes they lead from the front.

00:45:18.000 Oh, they can absolutely be in the private sector and I think a lot of them are in the private sector.

00:45:22.000 You know who's a bad leader?

00:45:24.000 Jay Inslee.

00:45:25.000 Oh gosh, yes.

00:45:25.000 Is he?

00:45:26.000 Oh yeah, you know who he is?

00:45:27.000 No.

00:45:27.000 He's governor of Washington and Boeing just announced they're leaving.

00:45:31.000 So there's a lot of reasons.

00:45:33.000 Yeah.

00:45:34.000 They're losing a ton of money because no one's flying anymore.

00:45:36.000 So that means they're in trouble.

00:45:37.000 They make planes.

00:45:38.000 I mean, they make other things, too.

00:45:40.000 Yeah, they do.

00:45:41.000 So anyway, they're going to consolidate their production, I think, in South Carolina.

00:45:45.000 And so now they're losing all these jobs in Washington.

00:45:48.000 But I do think it has a lot to do with COVID restrictions.

00:45:50.000 Probably has a lot to do with the rioting.

00:45:53.000 But we also saw the same thing with Elon Musk.

00:45:55.000 He's moving, I guess he's moving to Texas?

00:45:57.000 Yeah.

00:45:58.000 So Man, I'm seeing all this stuff go down.

00:46:00.000 I remember when Elon was like, I'm leaving because this state is insane.

00:46:03.000 And they were basically harassing him.

00:46:05.000 Even though the state said, here's what you got to do to open.

00:46:07.000 And he was like, we're good.

00:46:08.000 The local county was like, no, we're not going to let you, Elon.

00:46:11.000 So he leaves and you just reminds me of Atlas Shrugged.

00:46:16.000 All the heads of industry are like, we're out.

00:46:18.000 You can have your regulation.

00:46:19.000 There's this huge exodus out of California, right?

00:46:22.000 I mean, Joe Rogan's leaving.

00:46:23.000 Elon Musk is leaving.

00:46:24.000 Daily Wire folks.

00:46:25.000 Blair White.

00:46:26.000 Blair White, yeah. 0.95

00:46:26.000 I feel like there's so many people who are just like, all right, I'm out. 0.95

00:46:30.000 And I don't blame them.

00:46:31.000 And it's sad because there are parts of California that are really beautiful.

00:46:35.000 There are a lot of wonderful people.

00:46:36.000 There are good things about California.

00:46:38.000 It's a very successful state in a lot of different metrics.

00:46:41.000 They attract talent.

00:46:42.000 But man, do they love killing business there.

00:46:44.000 They just love it.

00:46:46.000 I left in 2018 and I went back a few months ago and I have no At all desire to go back there.

00:46:53.000 It was like so stuffy and I mean, it's this beautiful wide-open Los Angeles particularly wide open space with homeless people everywhere.

00:47:01.000 It's like it was like you had to wear a mask and everybody was like I don't know.

00:47:07.000 Gross.

00:47:07.000 Waving in lines to get to the grocery store.

00:47:09.000 The mask is because of the typhoid outbreak.

00:47:13.000 I did my freshman year at USC.

00:47:16.000 I grew up in Southeast Asia, but L.A.

00:47:21.000 was the only time in my life that I remember feeling genuinely unsafe.

00:47:27.000 My personhood, my property, I had never experienced anything like it.

00:47:30.000 It's a horrible place.

00:47:31.000 It is. 1.00

00:47:32.000 It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy. 1.00

00:47:34.000 I used to love it. 1.00

00:47:35.000 Love it.

00:47:36.000 In like 2005 and 2006, you know, weed was legal for the first time in my life.

00:47:39.000 And it was like, wow, this is like the liberal, this is where we can change the country.

00:47:43.000 We can start here.

00:47:44.000 And it felt like that.

00:47:45.000 And the entertainment industry was killing it.

00:47:47.000 All these YouTubers were flocking to Los Angeles, the beach, 72 degrees every day.

00:47:52.000 And now they're repealing civil rights law.

00:47:54.000 Yeah, and feces in the streets. 0.99

00:47:56.000 Oh man, yeah, and the funny thing is about the the poop patrol in San Francisco is that it's actually a problem in

00:48:01.000 other cities Too, but they're just the worst

00:48:04.000 What I love about San Francisco is that there's someone made a map of all of the instances of human poop in the

00:48:08.000 streets And when you look at it, there's so many

00:48:12.000 It's just a giant brown splotch over the map.

00:48:15.000 You can't even see the city.

00:48:16.000 Yeah, because there's so many.

00:48:18.000 They actually had to hire a poop patrol.

00:48:19.000 Like, it's like, could you imagine?

00:48:21.000 It's like your town is going over their expenses.

00:48:23.000 Like, well, the fire department costs us this much per year.

00:48:25.000 We have EMS and police and, ah, yes, the poop department.

00:48:29.000 Like, that's crazy.

00:48:30.000 Is it taxpayer funded?

00:48:31.000 Yeah, it's public.

00:48:32.000 It's a public program.

00:48:33.000 It's like they come out and spray the poop down.

00:48:36.000 That's nuts.

00:48:37.000 Like, are there other departments we don't know about that just don't register with us?

00:48:42.000 Like, we all know the fire department.

00:48:43.000 We all know the police department.

00:48:45.000 But is there, like, other government programs?

00:48:47.000 Because the poop department seems like... That's a new one.

00:48:50.000 Yeah, for sure, you know, and hopefully not the rest of our future.

00:48:55.000 Yeah, well, actually, we did a video about San Francisco.

00:48:59.000 We called it San Fran-ches. 0.98

00:49:02.000 But yeah, they have a lot of infrastructure dedicated to the homeless.

00:49:07.000 I think they spend, like, an actual person's yearly income per year on each homeless person.

00:49:12.000 But guess what?

00:49:13.000 They're still homeless.

00:49:14.000 And it's it's crazy because and it's actually I know a lot of conservatives like like to laugh at San Francisco because they feel like this vindication that all of your far-left policies are bad, but it is sad.

00:49:26.000 I remember I when I was I think 18 or 19 I visited San Francisco and I thought it was beautiful and it's like if you're from there and you see what your city has become like if you're a business owner out there and now you have like someone shooting up in front of your business every day, feezing on the street.

00:49:41.000 There's like videos online that have gone viral of like women being attacked by random crazy homeless people.

00:49:46.000 Like that's, man, I don't think there's... And all the while there's a Starbucks literally across the street from the Starbucks.

00:49:53.000 Like no joke.

00:49:53.000 Yeah.

00:49:54.000 And there's like, I remember I was at a Starbucks and this is like, I forgot what this was, like it's near Market Street or something.

00:50:00.000 And I'm walking out and as I'm walking out, I'm like, there's a Starbucks across the street.

00:50:04.000 There's a line.

00:50:05.000 I was like, but I just walked out of a Starbucks.

00:50:07.000 No line.

00:50:08.000 Why would anybody, this is the weirdest, no kidding.

00:50:11.000 That Starbucks is the good Starbucks.

00:50:12.000 Yeah, yeah, right.

00:50:13.000 In San Francisco in 2014-ish, I lived there for like a year, and it was really cool to get offered like, hey, do you want to buy mushrooms as you're walking down the street?

00:50:21.000 The first time, but like the 19th time, it's just... And then the guy's like... Trying to step over people and pass people, and you're like, no man.

00:50:29.000 Now you got like whole markets where they're like just holding up in their jacket.

00:50:32.000 They really will, they'll try and sell you, like right up, they'll just walk up to you and be like, want to buy some mushrooms?

00:50:36.000 I don't know if they do it to everybody.

00:50:38.000 San Francisco is capital.

00:50:41.000 It's capital city from the Hunger Games, right?

00:50:43.000 Yeah.

00:50:44.000 San Francisco.

00:50:44.000 Yeah.

00:50:44.000 So you have these big, wealthy industries.

00:50:47.000 You have these, these tech companies that are in, not necessarily San Francisco, but the Bay Area.

00:50:52.000 Super wealthy, powerful, big tech in Silicon Valley.

00:50:56.000 And then you have like, it's, it's like, it's the scariest thing about it is it reminds me kind of, uh, of Ukraine where you have oligarchs who control everything like, you know, and then you have all extreme poverty.

00:51:08.000 So think about another city that would be like San Francisco, and it's hard to find, where you have some of the wealthiest people on the planet, billionaires, running their empires.

00:51:17.000 Mostly San Francisco.

00:51:18.000 And at the same time, you have poor people taking dumps in the street and doing drugs, and there's rapid homelessness.

00:51:23.000 I think India has a lot of cities, maybe not a lot, but Delhi I think is like that.

00:51:27.000 No, for sure, for sure.

00:51:28.000 I mean, in the US, this is like... I can't think of one.

00:51:30.000 It reminds me of Ukraine, where a small handful of oligarchs control everything, and because they're so wealthy, they basically set the prices, and they'll never lose their power.

00:51:40.000 And that's kind of what we get with big tech, where they control what we can see, hear, and even say.

00:51:45.000 Then you have all these really, you know, poor people.

00:51:47.000 So they're clearly not interested in helping, you know, anybody.

00:51:50.000 Well, actually, I think they they think they're interested in helping people.

00:51:54.000 And that's why they push far left policies.

00:51:56.000 And I really do think that a lot of the people from San Francisco have been somewhere like L.A.

00:52:00.000 that has a huge, you know, wealth inequality issue.

00:52:03.000 I think they think the rest of the country is like that.

00:52:05.000 Like in their cities, you have the millionaires, the billionaires and the homeless people.

00:52:09.000 And I think they think A, that's common, and B, it's also capitalism's fault.

00:52:14.000 So that's why in these hubs, these liberal hubs, you have like, I mean, literal socialists who want to tear down the system.

00:52:19.000 So we were talking a little bit about this before the show started, but I wanted to ask you, because I was sort of asking you earlier, but we'll just go back into it.

00:52:26.000 From a Canadian perspective, what do you think is going to happen in the U.S.

00:52:29.000 on election night?

00:52:31.000 I mean, I don't like usually to make predictions because I'm always worried about being put into one of those like reels of people being wrong and then owned.

00:52:39.000 So I try to avoid making any predictions.

00:52:41.000 But I do think Trump will win.

00:52:44.000 I mean, I definitely think he was on course to win in a landslide before the whole COVID thing.

00:52:48.000 You know, then things kind of became a little bit unclear.

00:52:51.000 But right now, I think a lot of people are tired of the restrictions and a lot of people are worried about the economy.

00:52:56.000 And I think Trump has a proven track record on that.

00:52:58.000 And I know a lot of You know, Democrats are trying to say that this torpedoed

00:53:02.000 economy is Trump's fault, but people remember, right?

00:53:04.000 They remember, like, filing their taxes from last year.

00:53:07.000 They remember how well things were going.

00:53:10.000 And I think they trust that a lot more than Biden.

00:53:12.000 But the polls have, in some states, Biden's up like nearly double digits.

00:53:16.000 Yeah. I mean, I remember what the poll said last time as well.

00:53:19.000 And it's hard because I don't want to be one of those people who just dismisses polls because they don't like what I think and I want to just have confirmation bias.

00:53:28.000 But I think there is a proven issue with trying to poll Trump supporters and his base.

00:53:33.000 I think we saw that.

00:53:34.000 last year and I know the last election cycle two years ago, you know, things didn't go well for the Republicans in

00:53:40.000 terms of the House, but Trump wasn't on the ticket then.

00:53:42.000 Right. I agree.

00:53:43.000 He is now and there are a lot of people who probably didn't vote in the primaries because Trump wasn't there.

00:53:47.000 They're maybe not necessarily Republicans, maybe not necessarily even politically active, but now that Trump is

00:53:52.000 on the ticket this time, I think it's going to make a difference.

00:53:55.000 So so the polls in 2016 were off by a couple points, maybe like a point or two.

00:54:01.000 And so what ended up happening is you had all these forecasters like, oh, if Michigan's going Hillary, then Trump's going to win.

00:54:06.000 Trump ended up winning due to 77,000 votes across several swing states.

00:54:11.000 Like in some states, it was thin margins where he got win or take all electoral votes.

00:54:14.000 So he did really well in the Electoral College.

00:54:16.000 The weird thing now is like, We had Jack Murphy on the podcast recently and he asked me, he's like, do you think the conditions that led to Donald Trump are worse?

00:54:26.000 Or do you think things have gotten better?

00:54:27.000 I'm like, oh, it's way worse.

00:54:28.000 And he's like, so then why would Trump lose?

00:54:30.000 And I'm like, but the polls, right?

00:54:32.000 The polls were wrong, but come on, like Biden's up by like 10 points in some of these polls, like 14, 27 among seniors, like some ridiculous numbers.

00:54:42.000 Unless they're literally lying and the polls are like broken beyond repair.

00:54:46.000 I mean, is that a strong possibility?

00:54:51.000 This is what I was thinking, like maybe what happened in 2016 was the polls were slightly

00:54:56.000 off, not because they couldn't find Trump's base and they went on to fix it.

00:55:01.000 Maybe their attempts to fix it resulted in them going the other direction.

00:55:06.000 But I mean, I feel like that's wishful thinking.

00:55:07.000 Oh, what were you going to say?

00:55:09.000 Well, I was just going to say that, I mean, polling is a really, really hard thing to do accurately.

00:55:13.000 I mean, any type of social science quantification is going to be difficult, right?

00:55:18.000 I mean, because basically what you're doing with these polls is you have small groups and you're hoping that you're going to be as representative as possible.

00:55:24.000 But there's no way to do that without any type of bias at all.

00:55:28.000 So I think, you know, when we look at polls, they have a margin of error for a reason.

00:55:33.000 And I think they're usually pretty, I mean, they're pretty optimistic with the margins of error that they give.

00:55:38.000 So that's the first thing.

00:55:39.000 And also the second thing is I see a lot of national polls and people always love to talk about the national polls.

00:55:45.000 The American president is not chosen by direct democracy, right?

00:55:48.000 So it's a lot more useful to do what you do and talk about these specific states that might be swing states and how they're performing in those areas.

00:55:55.000 But when I see stuff about, like, overall, you know, Biden is up nationally, it's like, well, it doesn't matter.

00:55:59.000 It doesn't matter if everybody in California loves Biden and hates Trump.

00:56:03.000 Like, he was never going to get those votes anyway.

00:56:05.000 There's a poll from Democracy Institute and I think the Sunday Express in the UK that has Trump actually up nationally.

00:56:10.000 Has Biden at 45, Trump at 46.

00:56:13.000 And that's why I asked you, you know, I say like, you're Canadian.

00:56:15.000 And it's because I wonder if the reason, the difference between these polls in the US versus, you know, the Sunday Express is like, you've got a UK company.

00:56:22.000 They don't know or care, for the most part, about our biases.

00:56:25.000 I'm sure they do a little bit.

00:56:27.000 But they're probably like, from the outside looking in, here's what we see.

00:56:30.000 And then you have all these companies and universities, whatever, in the US.

00:56:35.000 And they're in the bubble.

00:56:36.000 They're in the fray.

00:56:36.000 They can't see outside of it.

00:56:38.000 Well, I mean, some insight I do want to give as a Canadian is that you guys are absolutely insane when it comes to election security.

00:56:46.000 Like, you don't have any.

00:56:47.000 Yep.

00:56:48.000 Do you have voter ID in Canada?

00:56:50.000 Of course!

00:56:51.000 Why not?

00:56:52.000 Of course!

00:56:52.000 I cannot for the life of me think of a country that doesn't, aside from America, and how it's controversial in America, I have no idea.

00:56:58.000 It's racist.

00:56:58.000 Of course we have voter ID law.

00:57:01.000 Have you ever seen that video with Ami Horowitz where he goes and asks So for those that aren't familiar, this guy, Ami Horowitz, goes to a bunch of Berkeley students and says, is voter ID racist?

00:57:11.000 They all say yes.

00:57:12.000 He asks them why, and they're like, oh, because, you know, people in these minority communities can't find the DMV, or they can't afford it, or they don't have a license, or they don't have internet. 0.99

00:57:21.000 So then he literally goes to Harlem and talks to a bunch of black people, and then they're all just basically like, what? 0.96

00:57:26.000 Like, I have ID.

00:57:27.000 Yeah, of course we have the internet.

00:57:28.000 Of course we have IDs.

00:57:29.000 But my favorite interaction was where he's talking to this, like, middle-aged black dude, and he goes, do you know where the DMV is at?

00:57:36.000 And he goes, yeah, it's right over there on 25th Street.

00:57:38.000 Like, as if he was giving him directions.

00:57:39.000 Like, of course he knows where the DMV is! 0.98

00:57:42.000 How insanely racist are these people? 0.94

00:57:44.000 No, it's the bigotry of low expectations, for sure. 1.00

00:57:46.000 I think they're overt white supremacists. 0.88

00:57:48.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:57:48.000 With guilty consciences. 0.95

00:57:49.000 I mean, if you listen to the things that they say, they essentially want to treat black people like pets or mentally challenged children who can't take care of themselves and aren't able to self-determine their futures, which is really, really depressing. 0.91

00:58:03.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:58:04.000 What if I were to tell you that Prince Harry was a neo-Nazi?

00:58:06.000 Would you believe me?

00:58:07.000 I would, actually.

00:58:08.000 Prince Harry!

00:58:10.000 So this is really funny, because somebody commented on my Facebook.

00:58:15.000 So Prince Harry made a statement so insane, I can't read it verbatim.

00:58:21.000 Because this sentence... It's got to be out of context.

00:58:24.000 Oh, I am not going to say these words.

00:58:26.000 This is so funny!

00:58:27.000 You want me?

00:58:28.000 Okay.

00:58:29.000 I want to read the actual... God be with you, sir.

00:58:33.000 This is the ultra woke Prince Harry.

00:58:36.000 Prince Harry says he's had an awakening on racism.

00:58:39.000 And I'm not going to read the next part, but I'm going to read his quote where he said,

00:58:45.000 OK, here we go.

00:58:47.000 Prince Harry has described his awakening to the existence of systemic racism, saying,

00:58:51.000 quote, The world that we know, Prince Harry says, has been created by, according to Prince Harry,

00:58:57.000 white people, says Prince Harry, for white people.

00:59:01.000 You see, the reason I put all those name drops in it is so that when they try and pull that out of context, I'm saying Prince Harry, right?

00:59:08.000 Exactly.

00:59:09.000 That's not going to help though.

00:59:10.000 I've had someone quote mine me half a sentence.

00:59:13.000 Yeah, I know, I know.

00:59:14.000 They'll do it.

00:59:16.000 There was one where it's like, you can clearly see the edits and it's like me going like, I think that it, and I'm like, why are people believing that's real? 0.99

00:59:23.000 That's so dumb. 0.98

00:59:24.000 This dude actually said this. Now here's the funny thing. 1.00

00:59:28.000 There was a big scandal where he dressed up like a Nazi once and and like it was the front page of I

00:59:32.000 guess like the Sun or something.

00:59:34.000 So everyone attacked him and they were like oh he had to apologize for it his Nazi costume with his 0.72

00:59:40.000 armband and all that. What was he thinking saying this?

00:59:44.000 Okay I know he's thinking he just realized oh there is a power structure and it happens.

00:59:50.000 Maybe he accidentally said it's a white power story.

00:59:52.000 It's just the rich people, the rich power structure of the world happens to be primarily white people. 0.78

00:59:58.000 And that's not even necessarily true, right?

01:00:01.000 There are a growing number of Chinese billionaires and, you know, like Saudi oil princes, you know, attributing richness to whiteness.

01:00:08.000 That's like, ironically, very Eurocentric of him.

01:00:11.000 But he didn't say that.

01:00:13.000 He literally... Yeah, he just said white people. 0.94

01:00:15.000 Yeah, that's crazy, man. 0.91

01:00:18.000 And then when you take into consideration where that dude, Ibram X. Kendi, attacked Amy Coney Barrett for adopting black children, it's like, I don't care what the race of the children she adopted.

01:00:27.000 It's good for her for helping out some kids. 1.00

01:00:29.000 That's nuts.

01:00:30.000 These people are like... This is the weird thing.

01:00:33.000 Ibram X. Kendi is not a white dude.

01:00:35.000 But, you know, I tweeted in response to this that the things these people believe, like Prince Harry, is a kind of white supremacy, but they're just guilty about it.

01:00:45.000 Well, Harry's not- So they want the same outcomes.

01:00:47.000 Harry's married to a mixed race girl, I would imagine.

01:00:49.000 I don't know her race, but she doesn't look like Aryan. 0.98

01:00:53.000 Don't you know that fetishizing is white supremacy?

01:00:55.000 Oh, yeah. 0.93

01:00:55.000 Of course. 0.93

01:00:57.000 What's not these days?

01:01:00.000 There's nothing you can say.

01:01:01.000 There's a game people are playing right now.

01:01:04.000 It's funny.

01:01:04.000 Type in, is blank racist, and you will find it.

01:01:08.000 So I was like, no way.

01:01:10.000 So I typed in, is toothpaste racist?

01:01:12.000 Yup.

01:01:15.000 There was a toothpaste scandal where it was like talking about a campaign that was done by some, you know, company was, was, was her marshmallows racist.

01:01:23.000 I Googled it and Megan Markle.

01:01:25.000 Yup.

01:01:25.000 German firm apologizes for racist chocolate.

01:01:28.000 Oh my gosh.

01:01:28.000 Chocolate covered marshmallows.

01:01:30.000 Wow.

01:01:32.000 Wow.

01:01:33.000 I was like, surely marshmallows can't be racist.

01:01:36.000 And apparently they can.

01:01:36.000 What's racist about this?

01:01:38.000 Oh, it's cause he's, cause he's black or something. 1.00

01:01:39.000 Cause he's chocolate.

01:01:41.000 But isn't that saying that chocolate is delicious?

01:01:43.000 Oh, but that's fetishizing. 0.56

01:01:46.000 And it's actually the sugar that makes that.

01:01:48.000 When people are like, I love chocolate, they love the sugar.

01:01:50.000 Chocolate's bitter.

01:01:52.000 I mean, it's good.

01:01:52.000 I like real chocolate.

01:01:53.000 Me too.

01:01:54.000 I don't.

01:01:55.000 I don't like chocolate.

01:01:56.000 I don't like the texture.

01:01:57.000 I put it in my coffee sometimes.

01:01:58.000 No chocolate, no coffee.

01:02:00.000 I bet you could type, is not liking chocolate racist, and it'll pop up.

01:02:04.000 Everything. 0.72

01:02:05.000 It's funny because these were memes back in the day where you'd like joke about everything being racist because the woke lunatics were claiming everything was racist.

01:02:12.000 Now it's mainstream.

01:02:13.000 Yeah.

01:02:14.000 Now like you have Prince Harry who made a statement that I'm sure many people would give him the Roman salute for saying.

01:02:22.000 He said the world.

01:02:23.000 He didn't say Europe.

01:02:25.000 He didn't say America.

01:02:25.000 He said the world.

01:02:28.000 It's pretty much dismissing and discounting all of the contributions that other cultures have made.

01:02:28.000 That's amazing.

01:02:28.000 Yeah.

01:02:34.000 Which are not insubstantial, frankly.

01:02:36.000 I'm just imagining him sitting there smoking, wearing his military uniform, and he's like, oi, you know China?

01:02:44.000 Nah, white people.

01:02:46.000 You know Saudi Arabia and algebra? 0.98

01:02:48.000 Nah, white people.

01:02:50.000 Yeah, it's like, Oh, is that is that is that the way it is?

01:02:52.000 Yeah, all the accomplished.

01:02:54.000 I was having a conversation with somebody about just this this general idea.

01:02:58.000 And a progressive friend said, Isn't it true?

01:03:01.000 And I said, No, it's not true.

01:03:03.000 And they're like, Yeah, but like, you know, colonization spread all over the world.

01:03:07.000 And I was like, but you do realize like, agriculture came from like, you know, Middle East and like, we use Arabic numerals.

01:03:16.000 Dude, Genghis Khan.

01:03:17.000 Yeah, I know.

01:03:18.000 I think it comes down to math, because the reason England conquered the world is because they got physics.

01:03:23.000 They had Isaac Newton gave physics to the Queen so their cannons could shoot longer, and they were able to dominate the sea.

01:03:30.000 And Genghis Khan had siege weaponry, so he was able to dominate.

01:03:33.000 It was competition.

01:03:35.000 It's mathematics.

01:03:35.000 It's physics.

01:03:36.000 So I was reading something that may or may not be true, so don't take my word for it, but I was just reading this article.

01:03:41.000 It was an academic article, okay?

01:03:42.000 So I know I'm gonna get a bunch of lefties being like, oh, it's fake.

01:03:46.000 But what I was reading was that the European peninsula, you have nowhere to go.

01:03:50.000 You're surrounded by water on all sides.

01:03:52.000 So what would happen is if people in France, for instance, needed resources and they started getting into conflict with another country, you can't run because you're, you know.

01:04:02.000 But then you have, you know, Asia is massive, Africa is massive, and North America is massive.

01:04:08.000 So people in these areas would just run away from conflict.

01:04:12.000 In Asia, however, you had the islands, and the peninsula, like the Korean peninsula, and you had Japan, and then you had the islands, so that led to competition.

01:04:19.000 If you have nowhere to go, you fight.

01:04:21.000 Pacific Islanders mastered seafaring, so that's why they were able to get to, like, Hawaii and stuff, because that was their way out. 1.00

01:04:27.000 But for people in Europe, it was like, somebody in, you know, like, England would be like, we're going to fight the, you know, the French to steal their stuff, because we want their stuff, or whatever. 0.58

01:04:35.000 I don't know the history.

01:04:36.000 They're women. 1.00

01:04:36.000 Yeah, all of a sudden, the Europeans are yelling at me, but you get the point. 1.00

01:04:39.000 Yeah, well there is this, like, huge school of thought in, like, I guess anthropology and history that geography is destiny, right?

01:04:46.000 Places like, I don't know, the Roman Empire, for example, Greece, Middle East, you know, Fertile Crescent and things like that.

01:04:53.000 A lot of, I mean, it's been posited the reason why they were such successful civilizations is because they had the optimum climate, right?

01:05:00.000 They weren't constantly fighting off either extreme cold or extreme heat, essentially A geography that was trying to kill you actively.

01:05:08.000 So they were able to do things like, you know, cultivate crops, set aside time and advance their societies.

01:05:14.000 Nowadays, it's just colonialism is destiny. 0.95

01:05:17.000 And it's all imperialism and white people bad. 0.98

01:05:20.000 Yep, all of them. 0.95

01:05:22.000 And apparently it's because Prince Harry believes they've created everything, the whole world.

01:05:27.000 I can't defend him anymore.

01:05:28.000 Yeah.

01:05:30.000 Well, I was trying to see what he was, like, I can imagine he had an awakening of sorts.

01:05:35.000 I think he grew up very isolated.

01:05:38.000 I don't think he ever thought any of that growing up.

01:05:40.000 Like I thought, I think he thought everyone's as good off as I am.

01:05:44.000 Yeah.

01:05:44.000 Well, I mean, I think it's the Megan, you know, it's the Megan Marble influence.

01:05:47.000 And I know she's been really targeted.

01:05:49.000 I don't want to like feed into that.

01:05:51.000 Cause a lot of people really do just hate her, hate her.

01:05:53.000 But she is I mean she's a an avowed feminist who is you know all these talking presidents of course. Oh, man 1.00

01:06:00.000 What do you do when you have like a bunch of dumb people in politics, you know? 0.99

01:06:03.000 well, that's why I mean i'm Well, the the left is always talking about whole like, you 0.98

01:06:08.000 know democracy abolished the electoral college I don't want that.

01:06:12.000 Like, the idea of direct democracy really scares me.

01:06:16.000 It doesn't work.

01:06:16.000 Yeah, I don't think so.

01:06:18.000 I'll tell you what democracy is going to look like. 0.82

01:06:21.000 A bunch of people marching to your home yelling, rabble, rabble, rabble, and then you being executed for it.

01:06:26.000 Because it doesn't matter what's right, it matters what the majority wants.

01:06:30.000 Yeah, and that's what I try to tell, you know, these SJWs, is that, well, slavery was democratic.

01:06:35.000 And then they'll come back with something.

01:06:36.000 Well, no, no, you know, inherent in the concept of democracy is, you know, the idea of, you know, universal rights.

01:06:42.000 It's like, no, it's not.

01:06:43.000 That's not inherent in democracy.

01:06:44.000 Well, part of that is inherent in democracy.

01:06:46.000 Democracy just means like, you know, rule of the demos.

01:06:49.000 So it's whatever, whatever we want.

01:06:51.000 Yeah, so if you have a constitutional republic, then you have guaranteed rights that constrain the government's actions, and then when people come yelling, rabble, rabble, rabble, what's supposed to happen is the cops are supposed to say, GTFO, break it up. 0.96

01:07:04.000 I think you could run for office, you could change the way the government's structured so that stupid people don't have as much influence, so that people in general don't have as much influence on the system.

01:07:15.000 Or you could start a private enterprise that benefits the world in such a way that politics can't hinder it. 0.93

01:07:21.000 Well, that's what the founding fathers wanted to do, set up a government so limited so that it couldn't have this huge effect on people's lives.

01:07:28.000 But obviously, yeah, over, you know, hundreds of years, things have changed.

01:07:33.000 And I've actually, I mean, I've kind of flirted with the idea, like, let's just raise the voting age.

01:07:38.000 Well, I mean, we know now that brains aren't fully developed until I think we're like mid-twenties.

01:07:44.000 Hey, hey, I think there's a very simple solution presented to us through Starship Troopers.

01:07:48.000 Service guarantees citizenship.

01:07:54.000 That is a fascist dictatorship.

01:07:57.000 Starship Troopers.

01:07:58.000 No, it isn't.

01:07:58.000 You're wrong.

01:07:59.000 You are completely wrong.

01:08:00.000 I mean, it's just military corporate.

01:08:02.000 Sargon of Akkad did a huge breakdown explaining the ideology of the dude who wrote it.

01:08:07.000 And it was a liberalist society based on, like, Locke.

01:08:11.000 Yeah, and the idea of service guaranteeing citizenship, that's actually a Greek principle.

01:08:18.000 So what about that is, I guess, fascist to you?

01:08:22.000 I guess that the... Well, I don't know much about the corporate power of Starship Troopers, to be honest.

01:08:30.000 But I would imagine that... The general idea was you could quit at any time.

01:08:37.000 If you provided service, it could be in a wide range of different areas.

01:08:41.000 It doesn't necessarily mean military or war.

01:08:44.000 And they encourage you to leave because they want only people truly committed to the betterment of society fighting to vote on those issues.

01:08:52.000 But citizens, civilians had full rights.

01:08:56.000 Citizens had the right to vote.

01:08:57.000 I think if the government's giving you the citizenship, it's different than you giving yourself the citizenship.

01:09:04.000 Which is what we have.

01:09:05.000 Here's the conflict.

01:09:06.000 Look, do you know why only landowners could vote back in the day?

01:09:10.000 Because they had a vested interest.

01:09:12.000 They had a stake.

01:09:13.000 And it was also because, I was reading something about it, it was amazing, they were like, people didn't have IDs back then.

01:09:18.000 So how did we know who you were and why you had a right to vote?

01:09:21.000 Oh, because you live here and you're a member of the community voting on the issue.

01:09:25.000 So people who didn't live there didn't vote.

01:09:28.000 But then we got to the point where we had landlords, and we had apartment complexes, and we had expansive society.

01:09:32.000 So we were like, well, these people live here.

01:09:34.000 We need a way to prove they do.

01:09:35.000 So then we started doing IDs.

01:09:36.000 Then we just made it basically like everybody votes.

01:09:39.000 But no longer did anybody have a vested interest.

01:09:42.000 So now it's like time-based.

01:09:43.000 You have to live here for a certain amount of time, then you can register.

01:09:45.000 But then you can leave right away.

01:09:47.000 Right.

01:09:47.000 So I think we're at a point where...

01:09:51.000 Everybody should have the right to vote, but we have to figure out how to make sure that when votes occur, the people who vote have a vested interest in what they're voting for.

01:09:59.000 I don't know how you do that, though.

01:10:00.000 That's hard, and I'm not sure how to do that either, but what I think is really, really terrible is mandatory voting.

01:10:06.000 I am very, very strongly against that.

01:10:08.000 And I've actually heard people say, it's great, you know, this is how you Realize democracy, but I don't want people who are apathetic and uninformed to have to vote.

01:10:18.000 That's the opposite of what you want.

01:10:21.000 And I'm someone who very strongly believes that just universal franchise is not the same thing as universal rights.

01:10:28.000 And so I think we've conflated these two issues, democracy and liberty.

01:10:31.000 And I think we need to be spending more time talking about liberty and actual rights rather than just conflating it with checking a box on a ballot, especially when the ballots aren't secure, as it's seeming increasingly like.

01:10:42.000 This is insane.

01:10:43.000 We had like 100,000 ballots go out in New York that were like mislabeled.

01:10:46.000 Amazing.

01:10:47.000 We had 70,000 ballots in Baltimore were held by the post office for five days.

01:10:52.000 No idea why.

01:10:53.000 I think all in all about a million ballots in the primaries were at risk for disqualification because of the post office, not the individuals.

01:11:00.000 So this is going to be fun.

01:11:02.000 What happens when you get people in Brooklyn and they can't vote?

01:11:07.000 That's those Democrat votes.

01:11:09.000 Then the Democrats are going to sue and they're going to jam everything up and Trump's going to be like, you did this.

01:11:13.000 This is your fault.

01:11:14.000 You're disqualified.

01:11:14.000 Don't look at me.

01:11:15.000 And they're going to drag it out like crazy.

01:11:18.000 Then they're going to blame Trump for everything.

01:11:20.000 I don't think these people are going to vote.

01:11:21.000 That's the thing.

01:11:22.000 I think maybe Biden's up in the polls, but I tell you, man, I see people on Facebook saying things like orange man bad.

01:11:27.000 And I know for a fact, these people will not vote.

01:11:29.000 You could take the ballot, jam it in their face, and hand them the pen, and they're going to be like, and they're not going to do it. 0.90

01:11:37.000 So I'm like, they're going to get a mail-in ballot, and it's going to land in their junk pile. 0.81

01:11:42.000 First of all, I know a lot of these people in Chicago, my friends.

01:11:46.000 I'm like, dude, you don't even check your mail.

01:11:47.000 When you do, you throw it in a bin.

01:11:49.000 There's like a bin under the mailbox.

01:11:50.000 You just chuck it in because you're like, it's junk. 0.59

01:11:52.000 They're not going to vote. 0.99

01:11:53.000 Well, I mean, that kind of is what happened with Bernie Sanders and his support base, right?

01:11:56.000 I mean, there are a lot of the like really militant Bernie bros.

01:11:59.000 Well, you didn't show up in the primary votes.

01:12:01.000 So I guess like the revolution is important, but not that important.

01:12:06.000 The revolution is important to claim, but not actually do.

01:12:09.000 So regarding the Starship Troopers, someone in the comments, we talked about this before on the show, said that service is only military service in that movie.

01:12:18.000 Because we had said that it was service of any kind, like different types.

01:12:21.000 Right, I think what I mean to say is it's not combat.

01:12:23.000 People were saying only combat service gives you citizenship.

01:12:26.000 No, that's not true.

01:12:27.000 A lot of people were saying that in the comments.

01:12:29.000 No, it's definitely not only combat.

01:12:31.000 Right?

01:12:31.000 Because even in the movie, I've not read the book, but even in the movie, there are roles that aren't combat.

01:12:37.000 Yeah.

01:12:38.000 There's like intelligence, military service.

01:12:40.000 It is military service.

01:12:42.000 In the movie, people are joining the military, but they're not combat.

01:12:46.000 I don't know.

01:12:46.000 Do you guys, do you guys actually like that?

01:12:49.000 I'm fine with the idea of service guaranteeing citizenship and I don't think it should be strictly military because I think that I'm not someone who's you know big military person that's like one of the few areas where I disagree with you know a lot of other conservatives but I mean I think some sort of national service whether that be I don't know, yeah, military would be one.

01:13:09.000 Working in a VA.

01:13:10.000 Yeah, a VA or something like that.

01:13:11.000 Helping people.

01:13:12.000 Some sort of volunteer service.

01:13:13.000 Yeah, I'm into that.

01:13:14.000 So like, I don't just like pure military service though.

01:13:17.000 Yeah, or like, you know, environmental work.

01:13:18.000 Just something where you actually have to like pay back into the system through time.

01:13:22.000 Is that what you guys, is that what you're talking about?

01:13:22.000 In order to vote?

01:13:24.000 I would support that.

01:13:24.000 I'm not saying I'm endorsing this, first and foremost.

01:13:26.000 I would endorse that.

01:13:28.000 But I am saying there's something there to look at and then work through and figure out this idea that you have to earn your vote.

01:13:35.000 You can't just arbitrarily vote because what happens is now they're trying to lower the voting age to 16.

01:13:38.000 The Democrats are like, let's just get 16 year olds to vote.

01:13:41.000 It's like, what?

01:13:43.000 Dude, there were 16 year olds like biting Tide Pods.

01:13:45.000 They weren't eating them.

01:13:46.000 Okay.

01:13:47.000 First of all, nobody ate a Tide Pod.

01:13:49.000 One kid did, he died.

01:13:50.000 He died?

01:13:50.000 Yeah, I remember.

01:13:51.000 He actually ate one?

01:13:52.000 Yeah, he swallowed it on accident.

01:13:54.000 Well, there was one kid who was jokingly put a Tide Pod in his mouth.

01:13:57.000 Yeah.

01:13:57.000 And then it disintegrated and he aspirated some of the fluid and then started coughing and gagging and it scarred his lungs.

01:14:03.000 Yeah.

01:14:03.000 So they weren't eating them.

01:14:05.000 It was a joke. 0.98

01:14:06.000 But if you're dumb enough to like, I saw a video once of some kids jump off of a garage roof, like backyard wrestling. 0.99

01:14:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:14:13.000 Yeah, great. 0.99

01:14:14.000 Give them the vote.

01:14:15.000 Now look, I get it.

01:14:16.000 They're adults that do the same thing.

01:14:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:14:19.000 But I mean, it's not just being ageist.

01:14:22.000 There's actual science to back up the idea that no, 16-year-olds don't make good decisions because of their prefrontal cortex.

01:14:29.000 They're not completely neurologically developed and they have an especially hard time making long-term decisions, which I would say are important when it comes to voting.

01:14:37.000 When I was 16, I actually made a playlist for someone because I thought that would convince them to date me.

01:14:45.000 These people should know.

01:14:47.000 To be fair, how old were you, 16?

01:14:47.000 I was 16.

01:14:48.000 That might work for 16-year-olds.

01:14:50.000 It's a bad, bad idea.

01:14:52.000 But this brings up a bigger point.

01:14:52.000 Don't do it, kids.

01:14:54.000 Why should a 16-year-old vote when the most important news in their world is that Janie got a haircut and now Billy won't stop looking at her?

01:15:03.000 Right.

01:15:04.000 So I remember I was talking to, I think I mentioned this in the show, I was talking to some family, and I was trying to explain news to my cousin's child, who was just like a 13-year-old girl.

01:15:13.000 And they were like, oh, she'll never care.

01:15:14.000 She doesn't care.

01:15:15.000 And I said, the easiest way to explain news to a kid is like, who's the worst person in your class?

01:15:20.000 And then she's like, oh, like this, this person.

01:15:23.000 Now imagine she was given the ability to make rules for you.

01:15:25.000 And she went, and I'm like, all of a sudden you care about what it is she's doing and why this is going on.

01:15:30.000 It's like, that'd be crazy.

01:15:31.000 And I'm like, that's what it is for when you're adult.

01:15:33.000 And like, you know, Joe Biden or Donald Trump wants to be president.

01:15:36.000 You've got people who are like, we don't like this person.

01:15:38.000 He's going to make the rules for us.

01:15:40.000 So the issue with voting is.

01:15:42.000 Do you actually have a vested interest in this?

01:15:44.000 You don't!

01:15:44.000 What would you both think, you all think, about tying the right to vote to being a net taxpayer?

01:15:52.000 Because a lot of people have an issue with the fact that right now you are able to vote to give yourself someone else's property essentially.

01:16:01.000 And then what ends up happening is, over time, you have a continuation of, vote for me and I guarantee you I will take his to give to you.

01:16:09.000 I mean, it's Pan Am at Kirk Kansas at a certain point, right?

01:16:11.000 You're promising people raw goods in order for their vote.

01:16:15.000 Well, Andrew Yang literally did that.

01:16:16.000 Yeah.

01:16:16.000 Vote for me and I'll give you... I think he even tweeted, like, I'm literally offering you a thousand dollars.

01:16:21.000 And I'm like... How is that not trying to buy a vote?

01:16:23.000 Is that illegal?

01:16:24.000 Yeah.

01:16:25.000 Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about.

01:16:26.000 I'm sorry, there's a quote from some guy.

01:16:28.000 I don't know if you can try and find it where he said something like,

01:16:30.000 American democracy will end when politicians realize they can simply offer up taxpayer dollars

01:16:35.000 in exchange for votes, something like that.

01:16:38.000 What was the exact question you were saying?

01:16:40.000 How would you feel about tying the ability to vote to being a net taxpayer?

01:16:44.000 What's a net taxpayer?

01:16:46.000 Like, I mean, there are some people who, for example, put in more to the pot than they take out.

01:16:51.000 You know, when you factor in all the services that they use, entitlements and things like that.

01:16:55.000 So there are people out there, and I think this is an interesting idea, I would have to see how it's exactly calculated before I say I would for sure support, you know, a certain plan, but there are people out there who think that, for example, if you're a net taker from the system, if you're claiming all these entitlements and you're not paying any taxes, that you shouldn't be able to vote because at that point you're voting for your right to take away someone else's property or you yourself are not bankrolling the government.

01:17:20.000 I got an idea.

01:17:21.000 We got, how many people?

01:17:22.000 We got four people in here.

01:17:23.000 All in favor of taking Ian's stuff and then keeping it for ourselves.

01:17:27.000 He sounds good.

01:17:28.000 Me.

01:17:28.000 I knew I was going to lose.

01:17:31.000 I just wanted you guys to like me.

01:17:34.000 Okay.

01:17:34.000 For those that are listening, everyone raise their hand including Ian.

01:17:37.000 He's very generous.

01:17:38.000 Psychological.

01:17:39.000 He's a generous guy.

01:17:40.000 Now I get to give it back to myself, right?

01:17:42.000 Was that the plan?

01:17:43.000 Yeah, but only a little bit.

01:17:44.000 Gosh, who's that person that said democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting what's for dinner?

01:17:48.000 I think it's misattributed to Benjamin Franklin.

01:17:50.000 It's a good quote either way, though.

01:17:52.000 Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch.

01:17:56.000 A republic is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

01:17:59.000 Yeah, I like that.

01:18:00.000 Something like that.

01:18:02.000 I don't like the money thing.

01:18:04.000 I don't like tying voting into how wealthy you are.

01:18:08.000 I don't really like that idea.

01:18:10.000 It's like there's something there.

01:18:14.000 How do we make sure that people have a vested interest in who they're voting for and why?

01:18:17.000 So the services would be like a way to do that without tying it to wealth, right?

01:18:21.000 Because you can volunteer time even if you're not able to do it for money.

01:18:25.000 What about a political aptitude test that you can take?

01:18:28.000 No.

01:18:29.000 Why?

01:18:29.000 I actually... Historically, that's been dubbed racist.

01:18:35.000 In the states, I think the southern states, they tried to implement like a a reading test or something.

01:18:39.000 Oh yeah, and it was like the words used like double meanings and so it was like impossible

01:18:44.000 to answer correctly.

01:18:45.000 I mean that would be, you'd be unable to do that in the United States.

01:18:48.000 But I, you know it's really hard when you have people voting on issues that affect the

01:18:54.000 economy when they have no idea how the economy works.

01:18:57.000 Like, let's just give everybody a thousand dollars.

01:19:00.000 Yeah, I don't like people that go in and they just check D for everything.

01:19:02.000 Or R. Or whatever.

01:19:05.000 Did you guys hear about the transgender satanist anarchist who ran as a Republican and won?

01:19:10.000 Won the primary.

01:19:11.000 So, and she made a really great point, like, you voted, why are you mad?

01:19:16.000 That was your choice.

01:19:18.000 Oh, maybe you shouldn't just, yeah, why are you putting it down?

01:19:20.000 Maybe you should actually look up who you're voting for.

01:19:23.000 Well, didn't it used to be 21?

01:19:25.000 The voting age was 21?

01:19:25.000 Yeah, during I think it was Vietnam and then they lowered it because there are people who are being drafted who are unable to vote and you know the argument was and I agree with it if I'm able to die for my country I should be able to you know to actually vote for what happens and so when I've talked about how about raising the voting age a lot of people have said so you think Service members shouldn't be able to vote and this is gonna be something controversial but I actually do think and I'm interested to hear what you all think that 18 is very very young to be able to join the military.

01:19:54.000 I think you've just solved the equation.

01:19:57.000 Yeah.

01:19:57.000 You have to be at least 25 or have served in the military.

01:20:02.000 Yeah, we're served in some capacity yeah, yeah government capacity not necessarily government Maybe like I would the government kind of sucks Yeah, I would be like I think it would be cool to extend that to like NGOs or just like charities or some sort of Civic Involvement, you know, you know a problem is sometimes you have genius 16 year olds that should be a Yeah, but yeah outliers, no if they were smart enough they

01:20:29.000 would just stand on the shoulders of their body with the trench coat

01:20:31.000 They'd be able to vote Fake mustache and actually like the one thing that's when I

01:20:39.000 first started talking about raising the voting age to 25 I think I was 23 at the time and I had people saying well

01:20:45.000 aren't you upset that that would take away your own right to vote and

01:20:48.000 And I thought that was such a strange argument for them to make because, you know, when I when we were talking about this, I would assume that we're not trying to do what's in interest of ourselves, but rather for the country.

01:20:59.000 So it's like, even if it ends up disenfranchising myself, I want what's best for the country.

01:21:05.000 Like if we had to ban Twitter, I'd be on board.

01:21:07.000 I'd be like, government, come in and just take everyone's phone, including mine.

01:21:12.000 I will gladly give up.

01:21:15.000 It's a horrible, horrible thing.

01:21:17.000 I think Twitter is an example of why direct democracy doesn't work.

01:21:23.000 It is literal mob rule on that site. 1.00

01:21:26.000 And it's just people screaming as loud as possible and saying the stupidest things. 1.00

01:21:30.000 And that's what the world would be like without this. 1.00

01:21:32.000 the system. Heaven forbid we got rid of the Electoral College and Twitter represented what

01:21:37.000 actually won. Well, what do you think the, I guess social media in general, but specifically Twitter,

01:21:43.000 what effect do you think that has had on the progressive left? People like AOC and Ilhan Omar.

01:21:49.000 Yeah, it's made them absolutely insane.

01:21:50.000 Look at Bernie Sanders.

01:21:52.000 He's been, like, you know, when I think of politics in this country, you have, like, the left and the right, and Donald Trump is, like, sitting on a stump in, like, kind of center-right position, and he's flicking, you know, a little bread at the birds, and he's just sitting there, and he's like, I'm over here, because everybody's sitting there, and we're going to build a wall.

01:22:08.000 It's going to be great.

01:22:09.000 And then Bernie was next to him, but then Bernie was in a car just driving left and just kept going, and now he's not even in the room with anybody.

01:22:15.000 He's just gone.

01:22:16.000 Bernie Sanders originally was like, and the free trade agreements, we need border security, you know, open borders, a right-wing proposal.

01:22:24.000 It's because Hillary cut his brakes.

01:22:27.000 He didn't stop the car, he just kept going.

01:22:29.000 I don't want to blame her, but the DNC cut his brakes.

01:22:32.000 I don't know, I think...

01:22:36.000 I think it's because they're eating their own refuse.

01:22:40.000 The far left is... It's lovely imagery.

01:22:43.000 It's like human centipede, but instead of one line, it's a circle where they're all stitched together, you know?

01:22:49.000 So what happens is...

01:22:51.000 Uh, and I've explained this quite a bit.

01:22:55.000 If someone on the right steps out of line even a little bit, BAM!

01:22:58.000 Instantly.

01:22:58.000 Gone, yeah.

01:22:59.000 So all that's left are these very, like, you know, clean-cut, for the most part, moderate conservative types on social media.

01:23:06.000 You know, Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones, Laura Loomer, all removed from Twitter.

01:23:11.000 So they're not part of the conversation anymore.

01:23:13.000 Now you have Jack Posobiec and, like, Will Chamberlain, and they're very, you know, for all the criticisms that people give Jack, he's still very just kind of... I don't know what the right word is.

01:23:25.000 To me, he's just mainstream conservative.

01:23:27.000 Well, I want to say kind of like down-tone, not bombastic, not screaming.

01:23:32.000 You're getting like, I hereby think this is important for this reason.

01:23:34.000 It's kind of like, okay, I get it.

01:23:36.000 Low-key, religious.

01:23:36.000 But the left is allowed to say whatever they want.

01:23:38.000 Dude, it's a private company.

01:23:39.000 I worked at Mines for a long time.

01:23:42.000 I co-founded the company and worked as an admin.

01:23:44.000 You get total control of who you want to ban within reason of how you interpret the code, how you interpret it.

01:23:51.000 So think about what happens.

01:23:52.000 So Jack Dorsey, who literally donated, what, $10 million to Ibram X. Kendi?

01:23:57.000 I don't know what you want to call him, but he's essentially... He's a supremacist, for sure.

01:24:04.000 Or he's a segregationist, I guess.

01:24:05.000 He called Amy Coney Barrett a bunch of really awful things because of her kids.

01:24:09.000 But anyway, Jack Dorsey donates to that guy.

01:24:11.000 So then he allows the fringe of the fringe And so because there's no breaks on the left on social media, they're just going full speed, Mach 7 to the left, whereas conservatives are being held where they are, because if they step out of line, they'll get banned.

01:24:28.000 So that turns someone like liberal Tim Pool into a conservative because they just keep going further and further left.

01:24:34.000 Well, I mean, I think the whole, with the whole Twitter thing and Facebook as well, YouTube, all of these tech platforms, I think we are, if we're not already there, we are entering an age where we're going to be a technocracy, right?

01:24:44.000 And what I don't understand is right now in the US, and really I think most democracies,

01:24:49.000 there are campaign finance laws and restrictions about how you can advertise on these social

01:24:55.000 media platforms because they recognize it is campaigning.

01:24:59.000 So how can you tell me that Donald Trump posting an ad onto Facebook or whatever, that's political

01:25:05.000 activism needs to be declared and monitored, all that.

01:25:08.000 But Facebook can ban whoever they want flat out, control whatever stories flat out, and

01:25:12.000 we can't do anything about that?

01:25:13.000 That makes no sense.

01:25:14.000 Facebook just banned 216 Trump ads.

01:25:17.000 Because he was talking about, he said, a bunch of the ads were like, Joe Biden will increase the amount of refugees coming into this country.

01:25:22.000 A very serious issue that people are concerned with.

01:25:25.000 If you are concerned about, you know, increasing immigrants and refugees in this country, it doesn't mean you're racist.

01:25:30.000 Facebook banned them.

01:25:31.000 Because they think that's racist.

01:25:33.000 They have a rule against telling people that they're in danger due to, you know, other people based on national origin or whatever.

01:25:39.000 And it's arbitrary.

01:25:40.000 Wait, so does that mean that Democrats aren't allowed to tell people that the Russians are trying to fix their election?

01:25:46.000 It does.

01:25:46.000 But of course, they'll get away with it.

01:25:47.000 Yeah.

01:25:48.000 And they'll get to do whatever they want. 0.99

01:25:49.000 I mean, and boy, are they really pushing that Russia garbage. 1.00

01:25:53.000 They are. 0.99

01:25:54.000 And you know what's funny?

01:25:54.000 It's back, baby.

01:25:55.000 I'm old enough where I can remember that, gosh, when Mitt Romney was running against Barack Obama, he actually named Russia as the biggest threat to the United States.

01:26:04.000 And all the liberals at the time were laughing at him.

01:26:07.000 Yeah, this isn't the Cold War, Grandpa.

01:26:09.000 And then, you know, just a couple, several years later, here we are and they're trying to make, and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that like Russia is amazing in terms of track record for human rights.

01:26:17.000 And I'm also not saying they're not trying to influence things, but they're really making them out to be the boogeyman.

01:26:22.000 This is a really good example of why service guarantees citizenship as an idea.

01:26:27.000 Because right now you have these low, I call them low information belligerents.

01:26:32.000 So that's like a dude I know in Chicago who's always retweeting stuff.

01:26:35.000 And it's the funniest thing to me because I'm like, bro, I know you.

01:26:38.000 You sit around making sourdough bread in your apartment.

01:26:41.000 You're not paying attention at all to any of this.

01:26:43.000 You're seeing a spicy hot take from someone that you don't understand and you're hitting retweet.

01:26:47.000 Mm-hmm.

01:26:47.000 You're not gonna vote, I know you're not gonna vote, but you're pushing these unhinged, busted ideas

01:26:53.000 because it's tribal.

01:26:54.000 And then you're sitting there going like, I'm so smart, yeah.

01:26:58.000 And then what?

01:26:59.000 And then they have the nerve to criticize me.

01:27:01.000 Dude, I read nothing but news all day, every day for hours.

01:27:05.000 And then I do four hours of content on it.

01:27:08.000 I'm not saying I know everything in the world, but I'm pretty sure I know a bit more than these random people who think they're smart.

01:27:14.000 So you get a bunch of people who have no idea what's going on, who for tribal reasons are like, we wanna own the cons, so we're gonna go vote against our own interests, while simultaneously believing that Trump supporters are voting against their own interests.

01:27:26.000 That's one of the funniest things, too, about this whole cycle.

01:27:29.000 Someone commented on one of my threads being like, Trump has lied to you, he has told you to live recklessly, and now you've all been convinced the whole time while he's getting all the best treatment in the world.

01:27:40.000 It's like the COVID thing.

01:27:42.000 He told you to drink bleach while he gets medicine.

01:27:45.000 Except he never said that. Like Joe Biden said on the debate stage, why don't you inject some bleach?

01:27:50.000 And then Trump responded, that was sarcastic. Trump, you didn't even say to inject bleach.

01:27:54.000 Just, man, Trump was really off his game, huh? But it's like, I don't care. What these people

01:27:59.000 don't realize is the best example of the left having no idea what's going on is the Proud Boys hashtag.

01:28:05.000 You saw this?

01:28:06.000 Yes, I did.

01:28:07.000 So there was 500,000 tweets of mostly LGBT people, and it was photos of, like, gay couples saying, we're Proud Boys.

01:28:15.000 And the actual Proud Boys didn't care.

01:28:17.000 And they never did.

01:28:17.000 Yeah.

01:28:18.000 And they didn't even use the hashtag.

01:28:20.000 So I guess, like, the leader of the Proud Boys issued a statement saying, we have gay members, we're totally cool with this.

01:28:24.000 Like, I don't understand what the point is.

01:28:26.000 They don't care.

01:28:27.000 The journalists were actually saying after the debate, don't interview the Proud Boys.

01:28:31.000 Don't give them press.

01:28:32.000 And I'm like, the real reason they're saying that is because then they'd be forced to interview a black man and ask him why he's a white supremacist and Americans would be like, huh?

01:28:41.000 Who's this?

01:28:41.000 What?

01:28:42.000 What?

01:28:43.000 But that's the name of the game.

01:28:45.000 Don't talk.

01:28:46.000 Don't report the news.

01:28:47.000 Don't tell people what's really going on.

01:28:49.000 When I started doing my daily YouTube stuff after I left Fusion, I was going to Sweden because you had this right-wing narrative of all this violence in Sweden.

01:28:59.000 And Donald Trump was like, you see what's going on last night in Sweden?

01:29:02.000 So I said, I'm going to go.

01:29:03.000 I got hit up by a bunch of vice news journalists saying, don't do it.

01:29:06.000 And I was like, why not?

01:29:07.000 And they're like, because they're lying.

01:29:08.000 And I was like, who's lying?

01:29:09.000 The conservatives.

01:29:10.000 And then you'd go and you'd see that.

01:29:11.000 I was like, great, I'll go and prove that they're lying.

01:29:13.000 And they're like, no, don't do it.

01:29:14.000 Don't get your money to charity.

01:29:15.000 And I was like... I was really confused.

01:29:17.000 I was like, dude, I worked with you like a year ago.

01:29:19.000 You know I travel around the world covering news whenever there's a big story.

01:29:22.000 Why wouldn't I go to Sweden?

01:29:24.000 It sounds too... I was like, I was literally there three months before.

01:29:26.000 I had ice cream, walking around.

01:29:28.000 It was totally fine.

01:29:29.000 I was in Mama.

01:29:30.000 And I was like, I don't understand why I'm getting berated all of a sudden.

01:29:33.000 This was when like...

01:29:35.000 I guess, I think the culture war started, and I was like off doing my thing, you know, I went to like Japan, I was in Fukushima, just filming documentaries and minding my own business, and then all of these people were going insane, and people I had worked with who were like, supposedly normal journalists lost their minds, and they were like, for the sake of our tribe, don't you dare report the news!

01:29:54.000 And I was like, huh?

01:29:55.000 That makes no sense to me.

01:29:57.000 But those people are going to vote now.

01:29:58.000 They're going to vote after they're telling me not to report the news.

01:30:01.000 They're telling others not to report the news.

01:30:02.000 Now you have a bunch of low-information people who think they're smarter than everyone, and they're voting!

01:30:05.000 I think there's a xenophobic tinge in the United States that's just prevalent in our culture.

01:30:14.000 What do you mean by that?

01:30:15.000 I was told South America's dangerous.

01:30:18.000 I was like, oh, so I believed it.

01:30:20.000 And then I went to South America in the jungle in Chile, where they don't have local police.

01:30:25.000 They only have.

01:30:26.000 I went there and it's not.

01:30:27.000 I mean, yeah, it is.

01:30:29.000 The United States is great.

01:30:31.000 You know, our local law enforcement is killer.

01:30:32.000 It's the best.

01:30:33.000 It's not the word I should use.

01:30:34.000 A local law enforcement is awesome.

01:30:37.000 Having a local law enforcement protecting you from the federal level or from the state

01:30:41.000 level from the federal level is amazing.

01:30:43.000 Like in Chile, it's only national cops.

01:30:45.000 So if you mess up one place, the whole country, you're a criminal.

01:30:49.000 You don't have local protection.

01:30:51.000 But it's not something to fear.

01:30:53.000 And unless you go there, you wouldn't know that because our whole culture is like, don't

01:30:57.000 leave. 0.99

01:30:58.000 You're safe here.

01:31:00.000 So are we are any of us qualified to vote except for the ones that dig deep?

01:31:04.000 Well, I think a lot of a lot of people would say no.

01:31:08.000 Frankly, there are people out there who who are very disillusioned and they just want

01:31:12.000 to kind of return to.

01:31:13.000 I mean, I've even I've even seen people like.

01:31:17.000 Advocate for monarchies right now, like a constitutional monarchy, just because they're so disillusioned with things.

01:31:23.000 I'm not doing that, but yeah, I mean, a lot of people feel the exact same way.

01:31:27.000 They think the system's broken.

01:31:28.000 You know, votes can't be trusted, and even if they could be, do people have enough information to vote?

01:31:34.000 It's really scary, and there's no good answer.

01:31:37.000 Yeah, there's no perfect system, because if you get, let's say you have a monarchy, and you have a great leader, then the country's gonna work really, really well, but then they have a kid, and the kid's a dick, and then the country, you know, doesn't do well.

01:31:49.000 Or you get these ideologues who think they're smarter than the collective, you know, computational power of the human mind, decentralized.

01:31:56.000 So, like, a really good example of that would be, like, Hugo Chavez, or Fidel Castro, or any other communist, where it's like, The capitalistic system we have is decentralized apportionment of resources.

01:32:11.000 So you have each individual deciding what they need and when they want it, and then people freely trade, and the system just operates in a decentralized network.

01:32:18.000 The communists think one individual can calculate better than millions of people.

01:32:23.000 Centralized system.

01:32:24.000 Which they can't.

01:32:25.000 Right.

01:32:25.000 And so then everything ends up breaking.

01:32:27.000 Shortages, red lines.

01:32:28.000 So the key is like, I really think the United States is the best form of government we've seen on this planet so far.

01:32:35.000 You have three branches.

01:32:37.000 You've got your monarch and the executive, but there's limits and they have to be voted in.

01:32:41.000 Then you have your direct democracy, which is Congress, which is terrible and everyone hates, but at least it's, you know, by, you know, region.

01:32:48.000 And then you have the Council of Elders.

01:32:49.000 So it's like three different types of government combined that are constantly yelling at each other.

01:32:54.000 The problem we have is, it was impossible for the Founding Fathers to cover every loophole.

01:33:00.000 So I was watching this new video by CGP Grey.

01:33:02.000 Do you guys know who CGP Grey is?

01:33:03.000 No.

01:33:03.000 Great YouTube channel.

01:33:04.000 And he was talking about the Supreme Court, and it was very non-partisan, it's very awesome.

01:33:08.000 He was explaining that there's something called a recess appointment, that if Congress is in recess, the President can appoint a Supreme Court Justice until they come back to vote.

01:33:17.000 Right.

01:33:17.000 but what they do something called pro forma sessions where they basically walk

01:33:20.000 in and go all you know all rise there's no one there okay we're done

01:33:24.000 for the day everyone have a nice day that way they're still technically

01:33:27.000 in session so it's it's clearly a manipulation on what the

01:33:31.000 constitution was supposed to allow

01:33:33.000 but it's allowed So Trump should be able, or Obama should have been able, to say Merrick Garland is temporarily being put on the court until Senate comes back and then votes yay or nay.

01:33:44.000 But instead, they just come back, it's like every fourth day, because you're allowed to recess for three days.

01:33:50.000 You're allowed to take a break for three days, otherwise it's considered a recess.

01:33:54.000 So on the fourth day they come in and they say, all duties, you know, relegated to this individual, and then they walk out.

01:33:59.000 And then no one shows up.

01:34:01.000 Yeah, so it's clearly broken.

01:34:04.000 How we fix it?

01:34:05.000 I don't know.

01:34:06.000 Have you guys heard of the National Initiative?

01:34:08.000 It was a concept to create a fourth branch of government.

01:34:12.000 Mike Gravel, a senator, Alaskan senator, I think he was.

01:34:15.000 Yeah.

01:34:16.000 So it would make, like, every state would have a representative, and then each of those representatives would receive data from their constituents, and then they'd be able to pass laws.

01:34:24.000 So it'd basically be like the people's version of the legislation, and then we'd be able to pass laws into the Senate.

01:34:29.000 No, that's literally what the House is.

01:34:30.000 Well, but it would give the population the ability to write laws, send it to the representative, and then the national initiative would pass it in.

01:34:36.000 Well, I mean, that's still technically allowed.

01:34:38.000 Like, I mean, nothing's stopping any citizen from sending things to the representative.

01:34:43.000 But then we have to rely on Congress to do it. 0.54

01:34:46.000 Like you say, they're corrupt as all get out.

01:34:49.000 It's not that they're corrupt. 0.98

01:34:50.000 They are. 0.96

01:34:51.000 I think they're corrupt.

01:34:52.000 Yeah, but the problem with Congress and their low approval is likely due to the fact that if one person represents one district, they clearly don't care about all the other districts.

01:35:02.000 So if you have like AOC, right, and she wins, and she did really, really well in her primary, you got a ton of people in that district who love her.

01:35:08.000 Everyone else in the country hates her.

01:35:10.000 Right.

01:35:10.000 Doesn't matter.

01:35:10.000 She represents them.

01:35:11.000 Right.

01:35:11.000 So then what's going to happen is that you're going to ask everyone in the country, how do you feel about AOC?

01:35:15.000 And most of them are going to say we don't like her because she rep. 1.00

01:35:18.000 Yeah, she represents one district. 1.00

01:35:20.000 So it's very likely that every member of Congress will have a low national approval rating.

01:35:25.000 So then Congress gets an overall really low approval rating.

01:35:29.000 We were kind of talking about this before the show, but that's exactly why I'm at least in favor of balkanization

01:35:34.000 or at the very least more decentralization.

01:35:37.000 Because I think the way the Founding Fathers imagined the federal government ruling over, you know, all of these different states operating somewhat autonomously was a good idea, right?

01:35:46.000 I think if people in California want to do X, Y, or Z, they should be able to.

01:35:50.000 And if you don't like it, you can move to somewhere more free.

01:35:52.000 But right now, the size of the federal government, I mean, in Canada as well, it's so big that you have these people in California Or in Quebec and Ontario.

01:36:01.000 They vote on legislation that affects everyone in the country.

01:36:05.000 And I don't think that's fair.

01:36:07.000 And I think either, you know, let's bring back the concept of city-states or shrink down the federal government and let more of these issues be decided on a local level.

01:36:14.000 So the people who are voting for these laws, who want to live under them, they're not affecting the ones who don't.

01:36:19.000 And so would you set up like sunset clauses in all current laws?

01:36:25.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it would need to be something like that, because otherwise, I mean, they're, like, the amount of laws that are on the books, it's literally an oppressive amount.

01:36:35.000 Yeah, and they never go away.

01:36:36.000 Right.

01:36:37.000 It's like, we have a tendency towards creating more laws and not getting rid of them.

01:36:40.000 We talked about this before.

01:36:40.000 Yeah.

01:36:41.000 There's, like, ridiculous laws, like, you can't take a bath on Sundays in Massachusetts or something.

01:36:45.000 Yeah.

01:36:45.000 Because it was, like, back then it made sense.

01:36:47.000 And they just left it.

01:36:48.000 Yeah, and they just leave it, but then like no one enforces it.

01:36:50.000 Yeah.

01:36:51.000 But then you, so there's actually something really interesting I was reading about New York.

01:36:54.000 There's this funny story where a black cop went to Central Park and started giving out public drinking tickets to

01:37:02.000 couples having picnics and drinking wine.

01:37:03.000 And he got in trouble for it.

01:37:05.000 And all these people were like, oh, harumph!

01:37:07.000 Like I was drinking wine on my picnic.

01:37:09.000 Why was I being cited for public intoxication?

01:37:11.000 And the cop said, because the cops come to my neighborhood and give out tickets to the dudes drinking 40s on their stew.

01:37:17.000 So you want to come to my neighborhood and give out tickets?

01:37:18.000 I'm going to come to your hood and give out tickets.

01:37:21.000 And so apparently he created this like, you know, fiasco where the cop actually got in trouble, which I think is BS because he was totally right.

01:37:26.000 Yeah, he's within his right.

01:37:27.000 That's the law.

01:37:28.000 Yeah, he's giving out tickets.

01:37:28.000 I agree with him.

01:37:29.000 You can't have it, you know, we need equality under the law.

01:37:31.000 Wow.

01:37:32.000 But I started reading about this and it was funny.

01:37:33.000 Apparently, when they banned public drinking in New York, it was because of homeless drunk people and like vagrants.

01:37:40.000 And some politician said, this law will never be construed.

01:37:43.000 Obviously, this law will never be construed to say that a worker couldn't enjoy a beer with their lunch.

01:37:48.000 And now quite literally, you can't have a beer with your lunch.

01:37:50.000 Yeah, so it's like they write laws thinking we know exactly what the point of this law is Then two generations go by and it's like I don't know it says no one's allowed to drink So yeah, I mean that's a lot of debate over like an originalist versus a textualist And I I'm not someone who thinks like oh, well this literally says this so we can ignore the spirit of the law But that's why I think you can't really you can't leave things up to interpretation.

01:38:14.000 I think you should be as specifically clear as possible.

01:38:17.000 And like, even this whole debate over the Second Amendment, I mean, we know from looking through history what the Founding Fathers meant.

01:38:23.000 I mean, we have people saying, oh, well, they didn't mean weapons of war.

01:38:26.000 Like, oh, there were merchant ships with cannons, actually, at the time.

01:38:29.000 You gotta build a warship. 0.74

01:38:29.000 Yeah, privateers, man. 0.74

01:38:30.000 Exactly.

01:38:31.000 It's pretty obvious what they meant, but because it's not explicitly written enough in these people's opinions, it's up for Interpretation.

01:38:37.000 You know, the original writing of the Second Amendment was much more clear.

01:38:40.000 It straight up said something to the effect of, like, even if you aren't joining any kind of military service, you can still have a gun.

01:38:45.000 Yeah, they should have left it.

01:38:46.000 They should.

01:38:47.000 I wonder, I think they didn't because it would have, I guess, banned conscription.

01:38:51.000 Interesting.

01:38:52.000 And so they, that was something having to do with it.

01:38:54.000 But the general idea was if somebody doesn't want to join the military, they're still allowed to have guns.

01:38:59.000 They get rid of that.

01:38:59.000 Yeah.

01:39:00.000 And now the left is going, but it says a well-regulated militia.

01:39:03.000 Yeah.

01:39:04.000 What does regulated mean?

01:39:06.000 What was the original concept?

01:39:07.000 Because I've heard some people say it meant regulated in the sense of they have weapons that are clean and operable.

01:39:13.000 I've read things saying that they were, you know, the left says it's regulated by the government.

01:39:18.000 But the government wasn't that powerful and encompassing back then.

01:39:21.000 There was no, like, you could be off in the middle of the woods.

01:39:23.000 There was no regulation over you.

01:39:25.000 There were, like, regulars?

01:39:25.000 Nothing could be done.

01:39:27.000 Were military, like, an advanced form of a military crew?

01:39:31.000 I don't know the definition exactly of what regulars were.

01:39:34.000 So, I've read some arguments that it was a reference to having standard equipment.

01:39:40.000 A regulated militia meant... So they all had the same gun.

01:39:42.000 If one dropped it, you could pick it up and you knew how to use it.

01:39:44.000 Yeah.

01:39:45.000 And so, from that reading, it was a militia of people who have guns, know how to use them, and they're up to, you know, they're working and functional, is what we need for a free state.

01:39:55.000 Therefore, everyone should be able to have guns.

01:39:57.000 But now they've changed it because the left are, you know, textualists, like, no, no, regulated today means something different.

01:40:02.000 Oh, so like if you had an AR and I had a pistol, we're not regular?

01:40:06.000 I don't know, I don't know exactly.

01:40:07.000 No, the argument, like, that would be, that would still be.

01:40:09.000 The idea was that you were well equipped.

01:40:12.000 The problem with the textualists is that this manipulation of the far left, changing definitions, is that the Constitution could mean the First Amendment.

01:40:20.000 Okay, let's change the definition of religion.

01:40:22.000 And now all of a sudden you've changed the First Amendment.

01:40:24.000 So if you're a textualist and you're going by what it says based on what we interpret the language today, there's no Constitution at all.

01:40:30.000 Right.

01:40:32.000 I agree with that.

01:40:32.000 I think, isn't Kavanaugh more of a textualist?

01:40:35.000 I don't know.

01:40:36.000 Yeah, I think I had read that somewhere, but yeah, I mean, I completely agree that that's a problem and it's a slippery thing to do.

01:40:43.000 I would say regarding militias that it's important if we were going to like form a militia, that we all knew how to use each other's weapons.

01:40:43.000 Yeah.

01:40:50.000 Well, that's why everyone has standard issue weapons.

01:40:53.000 Well, in the military.

01:40:55.000 But like, if we were going to form a well-regulated militia, it would be like, I know how to use your weapon.

01:41:00.000 So we're all trained with each other's weapons.

01:41:02.000 In case you go down, I can pick your weapon up and know how to use it and not hurt somebody.

01:41:06.000 I think the general idea of guns is that.

01:41:10.000 That's it.

01:41:11.000 Oh, I thought the sentence was just getting started.

01:41:13.000 Is that... What do you mean, is that?

01:41:13.000 No, that was it.

01:41:15.000 Is that what it says?

01:41:16.000 Well, I mean, if you... So, when... 1978.

01:41:18.000 Have you ever seen that movie, what you call it, The Last Samurai, I think, with Tom Cruise?

01:41:22.000 Yes, I have not.

01:41:22.000 Yeah, basically, like, the Americans go to Japan and they're like, with these weapons, you can take a random dude and he can press the thing and then, boom, you blow somebody up.

01:41:31.000 It allowed them to have, like, to lower the cost of training great warriors.

01:41:36.000 The samurai had to go through all this training to be the best of the best, raised from youth.

01:41:39.000 Now you just got a gun, you know?

01:41:41.000 You just crank the lever, and then you get some random dude to do it, and you're blowing people up.

01:41:44.000 You win.

01:41:44.000 But you want to know how to take it apart, how to clean it, how to load it.

01:41:49.000 Look at the McDonald's method.

01:41:51.000 Have you seen the movie The Founder?

01:41:53.000 No.

01:41:53.000 Have you seen the founder? It's a good movie. It's about the start of McDonald's.

01:41:57.000 Oh. And basically the idea was each person in the McDonald's only know how to do one simple thing.

01:42:04.000 No one person could make the burger. Like assembly line.

01:42:06.000 Exactly. So it wasn't regulated.

01:42:08.000 They work for you.

01:42:09.000 Your job is the lettuce, your job is the mayo and the mustard, is the ketchup and the mustard.

01:42:12.000 But that's the more efficient way to do that.

01:42:14.000 I mean, in the military, to a point, it is like that.

01:42:16.000 Like, you have one guy's the medic, one guy's the grenade launcher.

01:42:18.000 Yeah, you have specialized roles.

01:42:19.000 But everyone trains with the grenade launcher.

01:42:21.000 Everyone trains with the ambulance.

01:42:22.000 Well, to a certain point, right?

01:42:23.000 I mean, there are still specialized roles.

01:42:25.000 Like, if you're a radio operator, you know, the average person isn't going to be able to do your job like you are.

01:42:29.000 Right.

01:42:30.000 It's like, what is it, the Marine Corps?

01:42:31.000 Like every marina rifleman or infantryman or something like that?

01:42:35.000 Yeah.

01:42:36.000 Is that it?

01:42:36.000 Everyone is at least a rifleman.

01:42:38.000 Yeah.

01:42:39.000 Well then, do you think that on November 3rd, the United States is going to descend into chaos, fracture into multiple countries, and then, you know, someone's going to fire off the nukes and the world's going to blow up and then we're all dead?

01:42:49.000 Well, you know what the interesting thing is?

01:42:50.000 Because 2020 has been such a terrible year.

01:42:53.000 I mean, I'm ready for 2021.

01:42:54.000 Let's finish with this.

01:42:56.000 It's like a roller coaster, man.

01:42:57.000 It's fun, huh?

01:42:58.000 Oh, I'm tired.

01:42:59.000 I'm very tired.

01:43:00.000 I'm tired.

01:43:03.000 I was thinking about this.

01:43:04.000 What probably will happen is the most disruptive thing.

01:43:07.000 And I kind of think the most disruptive thing for a lot of people would be Trump winning.

01:43:10.000 So I do think that that's going to happen.

01:43:13.000 And I think, you know, the people on social media will cry, there will be riots, you know, liberal governors won't accept help, as kind of has been happening all this summer.

01:43:23.000 But I think life will ultimately go on.

01:43:25.000 And actually, I mean, this is, I mean, kind of, it's pretty dark, but I actually get paid in American dollars.

01:43:32.000 So a US economy being strong, exchange rate, I mean, that benefits me greatly.

01:43:36.000 I get like a little bit of a raise anytime I convert my money.

01:43:39.000 Oh, so if the American economy does better and better and better.

01:43:42.000 Yeah.

01:43:42.000 It's like you just converted to Canadian dollars.

01:43:44.000 Yeah.

01:43:44.000 And then it's just like monopoly money, right?

01:43:46.000 Essentially, right.

01:43:46.000 But it benefits me.

01:43:48.000 Yeah.

01:43:49.000 So it's like I don't it's not that I'm wishing our Canadian economy is going to keep getting worse, but it's I think it is an objective fact that is what will happen.

01:43:56.000 I'm worried. I really am because we just we saw this video These videos of people fighting the Trump rallies like

01:44:02.000 Trump supporters will have a rally and then you know The far left shows up and then we had more riots in Seattle

01:44:07.000 and Portland just last night. It's not stopping. It's it's 130 days now and

01:44:11.000 But I think all of this helps Trump and I think the average yeah, the average suburbanite is seeing this stuff and they're

01:44:18.000 getting worried But then you have mail-in voting.

01:44:21.000 Completely broken.

01:44:21.000 So it was funny, somebody was tweeting trying to drag me because I made a video saying that bunk ballots sent out in mass prove the Democrats have corrupted the election, and I'm like, first of all, it's my opinion.

01:44:31.000 But I think it's a fair opinion because the Democrats are the one who have called for mail-in voting endlessly, tried jamming it through these COVID relief bills.

01:44:37.000 And then in Brooklyn, a hundred thousand ballots are incorrectly labeled and named.

01:44:42.000 So I'm like, yes, they have corrupted the election.

01:44:46.000 That's like, they literally did.

01:44:47.000 Okay.

01:44:47.000 It's my opinion.

01:44:48.000 Sure.

01:44:48.000 Fine.

01:44:49.000 But you can say in a factual sense, corrupted, meaning to like, it's like, you know, breaking it down, causing it to fall apart.

01:44:57.000 They did.

01:44:58.000 It was their calls for this, and it was in Brooklyn.

01:45:00.000 That's Democrats.

01:45:01.000 But I guess the better... I mean, the brighter side of that whole argument is that they've been able to shove these mail-in voting initiatives in already Democrat states, right?

01:45:12.000 So does it matter if... Swing states.

01:45:13.000 Yeah.

01:45:14.000 Michigan.

01:45:14.000 They've done it in Michigan, yeah.

01:45:15.000 So those are the areas where you'd need to worry.

01:45:17.000 But I mean, the extra ones in Brooklyn isn't really a big deal.

01:45:20.000 It's only the swing states you need to worry about.

01:45:22.000 It's actually really bad for them.

01:45:23.000 It's good for Trump.

01:45:24.000 Because New York is where the Democrats get their popular vote totals.

01:45:28.000 So if they're sacrificing themselves in California and New York, which they're doing, Trump's going to win the popular vote because of them.

01:45:34.000 So it'll be interesting because the Washington Post reported this, and this is very obvious, The demographic voting blocks that suffer the most under mail-in voting?

01:45:45.000 Minorities and young people.

01:45:46.000 Really?

01:45:47.000 Why is that?

01:45:47.000 Yeah, people who are less likely to have experience voting and may need help.

01:45:52.000 So because you have older white voters who are familiar with voting and vote often, they don't need help.

01:45:57.000 Young people, first time voters, do need help.

01:46:00.000 And marginalized or disenfranchised voters, people who haven't been voting consistently, they're not going to have the help.

01:46:07.000 So what happens is they get their ballot, they do one tiny thing wrong and into the gutter.

01:46:12.000 So guess who's going to be benefited?

01:46:14.000 Trump in that case.

01:46:16.000 Yep.

01:46:17.000 Absolutely.

01:46:17.000 Unless of course Trump really is winning the Latino and the black vote, which if according to NBC, if Trump just gets a tiny percentage, a couple of single digits from both voter blocks, he won't.

01:46:29.000 I guess we'll see what happens, but how about we take some Super Chats?

01:46:33.000 We have some great comments and questions.

01:46:35.000 I hope you're excited.

01:46:36.000 If you haven't already, smash the like button, because I see there's a lot of people hanging out, and thank you all so much for your Super Chats.

01:46:41.000 We have this year's Super Chat from JMac.

01:46:43.000 He says, oh no, Tim is hosting avowed half-Asian white supremacist Lauren Chen. 0.52

01:46:48.000 I joke, I joke.

01:46:49.000 My wife has been watching a lot of Lauren's podcast clips, and I think she's now more conservative than I am.

01:46:54.000 I appreciate her perspective.

01:46:55.000 Oh, thank you.

01:46:56.000 Hey, by the way, Lauren, what is your YouTube channel?

01:46:58.000 Oh, right.

01:46:58.000 My YouTube channel is just Lauren Chen.

01:47:01.000 If you type that in, may or may not show up.

01:47:03.000 But we're also on all the audio-only platforms.

01:47:06.000 So iTunes, Spotify, Google Play.

01:47:09.000 I think that's a more reliable notification system.

01:47:13.000 YouTube doesn't always send them out.

01:47:14.000 But yeah, we post three times a week.

01:47:16.000 Right on.

01:47:17.000 Let's see.

01:47:18.000 Dan Rouse says, Lauren, why no pigtails? 0.82

01:47:20.000 Love the show.

01:47:21.000 Love Lauren's show on The Blaze.

01:47:23.000 Keep it up.

01:47:24.000 Oh, thanks.

01:47:24.000 Yeah, I've worn pigtails several times.

01:47:27.000 I did a Harley Quinn, like, Birds of Prey review and I kind of, like, did the pigtail things for them.

01:47:32.000 But, I mean, a lot of people liked them, but what they also need to realize is that I'm 26.

01:47:36.000 Come on, we got this.

01:47:38.000 Yeah, I don't know if I can still get away with that look as much.

01:47:40.000 You can pull it off.

01:47:41.000 If I can pull it off, you can pull it off.

01:47:43.000 I'm sorry to interrupt.

01:47:44.000 Come on, you gotta do it now.

01:47:46.000 Project Utopian says, would love to hear from all of you.

01:47:49.000 Do you honestly believe in your heart of hearts that Biden and the Democrats will win in November, December, January, or whenever they want to stop counting?

01:47:55.000 Is it war if Biden wins?

01:47:58.000 I don't think it's war if Biden wins.

01:47:59.000 I don't think like conservatives are going to go out and smash and break things.

01:48:03.000 I think there are conservatives who will be like, I'm moving to a slightly more red state, but I think, you know, life will continue.

01:48:11.000 But what happens, I think, I think if Biden wins, it'll be this the slow erosion of the country.

01:48:17.000 Yeah, I mean, but that's already happening, even with Trump.

01:48:19.000 No, Trump's brought back manufacturing.

01:48:21.000 Trump's secured the borders.

01:48:22.000 Trump's lowered unemployment.

01:48:23.000 The economy's been doing better.

01:48:24.000 Right, but I mean, look at the cultural decay, right?

01:48:26.000 That's true.

01:48:27.000 I mean, look at the next generation.

01:48:28.000 Maybe he's, you could say he's postponed it, but look at, look at millennials, right? 0.94

01:48:31.000 Just look at our generation.

01:48:32.000 There's argument. 0.91

01:48:33.000 They're so awful. 0.99

01:48:34.000 They're so awful.

01:48:35.000 And Gen Z, I mean, you got some pretty based ones, but like they, they are more radical in a lot of ways.

01:48:41.000 And, you know, Conservatives, you can say like, oh, well, we got Trump.

01:48:45.000 It's OK.

01:48:45.000 It's like, no, it's not.

01:48:46.000 The left has the education system.

01:48:48.000 Progressives have completely had a stranglehold on most major institutions.

01:48:52.000 You're delaying the inevitable.

01:48:53.000 I don't mean to blackmail people, but that's what I think at least.

01:48:56.000 You know, election night 2016, I threw my arms in the air and it was a super slow-mo.

01:49:02.000 I was ready for Hillary to win. 1.00

01:49:03.000 I was like, just ready to throw my arms in the air.

01:49:05.000 And it's still this long.

01:49:06.000 Enjoy?

01:49:07.000 No, I was ready for it.

01:49:08.000 I thought Hillary had it in the bag. 0.99

01:49:09.000 But were you happy?

01:49:10.000 No.

01:49:11.000 No, what do you mean in general?

01:49:12.000 Like I give up?

01:49:13.000 Like I was about to give up?

01:49:14.000 No, no.

01:49:15.000 But it's been this super slow motion give up for the last four years.

01:49:20.000 And if Biden wins, it's just gonna happen.

01:49:22.000 Like what else are we gonna do?

01:49:24.000 Get a hang glider?

01:49:25.000 We should probably get hang gliders.

01:49:27.000 I don't think he has any chance, any chance of winning.

01:49:30.000 None.

01:49:30.000 And I think all these polls are lies.

01:49:32.000 I think they're specifically picking either segments of people, like, or that people are lying when they do it, like Trump supporters are trolling the polls.

01:49:42.000 One of my friends did say that she got called up and she, I mean, I don't want to say that she lied, but she didn't feel comfortable saying that she was voting for Trump.

01:49:50.000 Yeah, and I think a lot of people might feel the same.

01:49:53.000 Yeah, because they know, they're like, hi Ian, are you voting for our Lord and Savior Joe Biden?

01:49:59.000 You're on a list now.

01:50:01.000 I have some friends here who are very interested to visit you should you vote for Trump.

01:50:05.000 You're like, I'm voting for Biden!

01:50:08.000 I don't know what's gonna happen.

01:50:11.000 What do you think?

01:50:13.000 Oh, me?

01:50:13.000 Yeah.

01:50:14.000 I don't think Biden's going to win, but at this point I really don't know.

01:50:16.000 There have been so many black swans.

01:50:18.000 This is the year of the black swan.

01:50:19.000 I have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

01:50:21.000 Who knows what happens next week?

01:50:22.000 I know, seriously.

01:50:23.000 A month is like 27 years in 2020 time.

01:50:25.000 I feel like I'm 75 years old.

01:50:27.000 I know.

01:50:28.000 At least time has slowed down for all us old people, you know?

01:50:31.000 Yeah.

01:50:32.000 Like it's boring and routine and then just like days speed by now.

01:50:35.000 It's like every day is a week.

01:50:37.000 Pretty much.

01:50:37.000 It's like what happened today in the morning, you know, Trump caught COVID and the, and the, and the, you know, three days later, Trump's cured of COVID and then he was faking it.

01:50:44.000 Then he was going to die, but now he's alive again.

01:50:47.000 It's great.

01:50:48.000 All right.

01:50:49.000 What do you think?

01:50:51.000 Um.

01:50:53.000 I would say that in my heart of hearts, I can't believe Trump would not win.

01:50:57.000 I can't because, like I was mentioning with Jack Murphy, he said the conditions that brought Trump about are only worse.

01:51:03.000 So more people are going to be like Trump.

01:51:04.000 It's also possible that the Democrats sending out these bunk mail-in ballots are going to cheat.

01:51:11.000 Some people are getting like eight ballots in DC.

01:51:13.000 All these tweets are coming out where they're like, look, I got a stack of ballots.

01:51:16.000 So what's going to happen, like we saw with Project Veritas and the people in Minneapolis, People are gonna go to mailbox to mailbox grabbing all of the stacks of ballots, and then they're gonna have someone cheat.

01:51:26.000 No, I've heard from leftist Twitter that A, that is a conspiracy theory, but B, even if it did happen, that's legal.

01:51:32.000 So it's both of those things.

01:51:33.000 Both of those things are true.

01:51:34.000 We'll have to fill out the ballots, but sure, yeah.

01:51:36.000 Yeah, man.

01:51:36.000 All right, let's see.

01:51:37.000 Aaron says, hey Tim, you and Adam encouraged us to speak out, so I started an audio podcast.

01:51:43.000 Can I get a shout out for Into the Fray?

01:51:46.000 Cover art says, what's next?

01:51:48.000 There you go, shout out, Into the Fray podcast.

01:51:51.000 Saga Fraga says, Hey Tim, Michigander here.

01:51:53.000 Faith in Trump, even if the unexpected happens.

01:51:56.000 Be prepared. 0.99

01:51:56.000 We survived eight years of Obama, but Trump is a beast. 0.99

01:51:59.000 Also, you should start a gaming segment.

01:52:01.000 Get away from the news.

01:52:03.000 I just beat that goose game.

01:52:05.000 Oh, have you ever seen it?

01:52:06.000 It's the best game ever.

01:52:08.000 You play as a goose and your goal is to harass the townspeople.

01:52:11.000 That's just about it.

01:52:12.000 And you can honk and flap your wings and then you just like steal their stuff and they chase you and then they fall down.

01:52:17.000 It's so good.

01:52:18.000 I think you should stream Spelunky too.

01:52:21.000 Oh, no.

01:52:22.000 You should see Tim playing Spelunky 2, dude.

01:52:24.000 I'm really disappointed.

01:52:25.000 It's so hard.

01:52:27.000 It's not that... It's not that it's... I wouldn't say that it's so hard.

01:52:30.000 It's that it's chaotic.

01:52:31.000 That's what I was saying.

01:52:32.000 It's chaotic.

01:52:32.000 Chaotic evil.

01:52:33.000 Like, there's procedural generation error, in my opinion, poorly designed gameplay, where if you don't have any arrows or bombs, you quite literally can't pass the level.

01:52:42.000 So I'm like playing the game and I'm like, well, that's it.

01:52:44.000 And then I have to restart.

01:52:45.000 It's like... You're not the only one with that criticism.

01:52:47.000 But, like, why would they design a game to where it's, like, the level starts and you're, like... You can beat it.

01:52:50.000 You can do it.

01:52:51.000 And they want to see it.

01:52:52.000 They want to see you stream it.

01:52:54.000 Yeah, but it should be based on every time, every level, like, every time you play the game it's new, it's different.

01:53:00.000 And you can always beat the game, so long as you play right.

01:53:03.000 But they've quite literally made a game where it's, like, oh, sorry, not this one!

01:53:07.000 We made it so there's a wall in front of you, but you have no bombs left!

01:53:10.000 So, I've been playing it, and there are areas where it's, like, you literally have to have rope.

01:53:15.000 But then you use them up really fast, and then you get a level where it's like, oh, no rope, you lose.

01:53:18.000 So it's like a Kobayashi Maru type of problem?

01:53:22.000 I think COVID caused problems for development for a ton of games.

01:53:25.000 And they just, they were like, it got delayed and they published it.

01:53:28.000 But generally, the game is procedurally generated.

01:53:31.000 So it's like every level is just a mix of different objects.

01:53:34.000 So there are areas where it's like, can't get past that.

01:53:37.000 It's not that bad, but there have been instances where that's happened, and I'm like... You're starting to learn where stuff's gonna jump out, you can tell now?

01:53:44.000 No, that's not the issue.

01:53:45.000 The issue is that it's literally like, I'll be playing and I'll be like, oh, there you go, game over, and I'll just turn it off.

01:53:49.000 That would be entertaining.

01:53:50.000 I was like, wow, that was amazing, I can't even go past this level.

01:53:52.000 No bombs, no ropes.

01:53:54.000 I don't think you realize how entertaining that would be.

01:53:56.000 Watching the frustration of like, the game got...

01:53:59.000 Yeah, but for the most part, it's definitely more difficult than the first one.

01:54:02.000 Can't be done without swearing.

01:54:03.000 It's just more chaotic.

01:54:04.000 Alright, let's see.

01:54:06.000 BioLythic says, I support Lauren Chen.

01:54:08.000 Great guest, Tim.

01:54:09.000 Oh yeah, Lauren's great. 0.98

01:54:10.000 ShepardinStudio says, you gave my dog Shep a shout-out during the Battle of Berkeley.

01:54:14.000 Can you do it again and say, Shep is the best bupper.

01:54:18.000 Thanks, Tim.

01:54:19.000 Dog right.

01:54:20.000 Awesome.

01:54:21.000 All right, let's see.

01:54:22.000 We got a bunch of big ones.

01:54:25.000 Nathan Abraham says, I love you, Lauren and Tim.

01:54:27.000 Two honest people in a world of dishonesty.

01:54:28.000 Never give up.

01:54:29.000 Never, never, never.

01:54:30.000 Those words seem to matter just as much today as it did 75 years ago.

01:54:33.000 Peace and love to all patriots on any side.

01:54:36.000 Peace and free speech without repercussion.

01:54:39.000 Thomas Sloat says, Trump said that the government will cover the cost of each COVID death.

01:54:43.000 That is the incentive for every hospital and insurance company to claim more COVID deaths.

01:54:47.000 Then why would he do it?

01:54:48.000 That's weird.

01:54:50.000 Randy says, when things go back to normal, would you be interested in doing a docentry-esque video?

01:54:56.000 Documentary, or is it?

01:54:57.000 On the HEMA community.

01:54:59.000 What is that?

01:54:59.000 I don't know what that is.

01:55:00.000 One easy place to get footage is the Lafayette Historical Fencing Academy.

01:55:03.000 I don't know what that is.

01:55:04.000 I will have to look at it.

01:55:05.000 Yes.

01:55:06.000 Christopher Scott says, keep up the great work with Stay on the Truth with No Spin.

01:55:11.000 Honestly, you should have a podcast.

01:55:13.000 I'll think about it.

01:55:14.000 Jamie Roll says, thank you for the excellent work, Tim.

01:55:16.000 Have you taken time out of your 16-hour workday to train with your pew-pew? 0.66

01:55:20.000 I have not, unfortunately.

01:55:22.000 So there's a... Here we go.

01:55:23.000 Darren says, awesome seeing Lauren on here. 0.98

01:55:25.000 Please get matte, blonde, and stick snacks.

01:55:27.000 Oh, love matte and blonde, especially. 0.65

01:55:29.000 They're great.

01:55:30.000 Yeah, we want to.

01:55:31.000 That'd be awesome.

01:55:32.000 Hey, regarding your pew-pew, you have been training with the bow.

01:55:36.000 Oh yeah, definitely.

01:55:36.000 That's fun.

01:55:37.000 He's been going back and forth, like moving, shooting at it.

01:55:40.000 We've got these targets out in the backyard.

01:55:42.000 Yeah, so we've got targets, and I've got a compound bow, and I think I'm doing it all wrong for sure, because I have no idea what I'm doing.

01:55:49.000 I took an archery class in college.

01:55:51.000 It was one of the gym electives, and it was amazing.

01:55:54.000 It was really easy, but I found out I have no back muscles.

01:55:57.000 I don't think it's 60.

01:55:58.000 I think I've set it lower than that for sure to like 40 or 50.

01:56:00.000 It's probably like 50.

01:56:01.000 I don't know.

01:56:01.000 Apparently I've never used those muscles in my life, but we were just using recurve bows, but it's a good skill to have

01:56:06.000 so I Have I've been using a compound bow and I think the draw

01:56:10.000 weight is like 60 pounds would not be able to I could I don't think it's 60. I think I think I've set it lower

01:56:16.000 than that for sure to like 40 or 50 It's probably like 50. I don't know maybe not but uh

01:56:21.000 So I've been like walking elevated and I've been moving and firing and I've actually been getting I don't want to put

01:56:27.000 out like I'm like hitting bullseyes or anything, but I'm I'm hitting the

01:56:29.000 target and And I've been... it's just fun.

01:56:31.000 I just walk out on the deck, and I've got all these targets set up, and then I just fire.

01:56:35.000 The other day I was really proud because I hit six bullseyes in a row.

01:56:39.000 So, but, but, uh, yeah, I told you this.

01:56:41.000 Yeah.

01:56:42.000 So we've got one on top and then two on the bottom.

01:56:45.000 And so what I did was, each box has top-right, top-left, middle, and bottom-right.

01:56:50.000 And I went top-right, top-left, center.

01:56:52.000 Top-right, top-left, center.

01:56:54.000 And then I started getting tired of missing.

01:56:56.000 But I got those six, hit them perfectly, and I was like, yes!

01:56:58.000 And then I started getting tired of it.

01:56:59.000 Were you shooting like a hundred feet or something?

01:57:02.000 I don't know how far it is.

01:57:03.000 Is that how far we have set up?

01:57:04.000 Seems like it.

01:57:05.000 I don't know how far it is.

01:57:06.000 They're pretty far.

01:57:07.000 Yeah.

01:57:08.000 It's not, it's not.

01:57:09.000 Yeah, maybe it's farther than I realize.

01:57:10.000 Adam brought gloves.

01:57:11.000 Oh, right on.

01:57:13.000 Somebody fired a broadhead at our targets.

01:57:16.000 And I don't know who did it.

01:57:17.000 Other than you?

01:57:18.000 It must have been Adam.

01:57:19.000 I know, and it's like...

01:57:20.000 I'm fired.

01:57:21.000 I did it too, but it's gonna chop up the targets.

01:57:23.000 You're not supposed to.

01:57:24.000 But it was a spiral one.

01:57:25.000 It's really cool.

01:57:26.000 It spins, you know.

01:57:27.000 Anyway, yeah, so not training with the guns.

01:57:31.000 But I guess we can.

01:57:34.000 You know, we're on hunting ground, so we actually are able to.

01:57:38.000 We have, like, I mentioned this before, I called it a sniper tower, and then, like, hunters messaged me, they're laughing, because it's just like, what is it called?

01:57:45.000 Like a deer blind, I guess?

01:57:46.000 Oh yeah, blind.

01:57:47.000 But it's, like, elevated, and then we actually have another, like, hunting shack, deer blind, I guess.

01:57:52.000 You can go inside, and they have, like, you know, you can stick your gun out, so we're on ground.

01:57:57.000 There's, like, gunshots going off all the time, people just shooting.

01:58:00.000 Yeah.

01:58:00.000 Alright, let's see.

01:58:01.000 Where are we at?

01:58:03.000 Let's grab some here superchats.

01:58:06.000 The Civic Nationalist says, as a Briton, the Queen has absolute power.

01:58:10.000 She delegates her powers to Parliament.

01:58:12.000 Most British people don't care if the Queen steps in. 1.00

01:58:14.000 Some have been calling for it.

01:58:15.000 If the Queen wants to, she can assume direct control. 0.99

01:58:18.000 God save the Queen. 1.00

01:58:20.000 I think she should.

01:58:21.000 I think that's a terrible idea.

01:58:22.000 I hate the monarchy.

01:58:24.000 Really?

01:58:24.000 Why?

01:58:25.000 I don't know.

01:58:28.000 Why would you ever want to cede power to an individual?

01:58:31.000 That's a good point, you know, and it could be a slippery slope of, you know, they're moving away from the monarch, having a lot of that control, but considering that, I don't know, they arrested Count Dankula for making a joke, I'd kind of like to see them say, hey man, jokes and free speech are allowed, but it's probably never gonna happen.

01:58:45.000 Yeah, I mean, I think if the queen were to step in in order to protect and enforce civil rights, people would probably support it, right?

01:58:51.000 It depends.

01:58:52.000 I mean, if she was, like, seizing power to install some sort of oppressive system, it'd be different, but if she was doing it for the right reasons, I think people would support it.

01:58:59.000 Yeah.

01:59:00.000 I laughed out loud.

01:59:02.000 Yeah, I did see.

01:59:03.000 I saw him tweet about, like, or post about coming back.

01:59:06.000 I didn't know what it was in reference to, though.

01:59:08.000 when the market recovers.

01:59:09.000 That was amazing.

01:59:10.000 I laughed out loud.

01:59:11.000 So did you see any of this stuff?

01:59:12.000 Yeah, I did see, I saw him tweet about like, or a post about coming back.

01:59:16.000 I didn't know what it was in reference to though.

01:59:18.000 I was like, hmm.

01:59:19.000 I can't believe he's like, you'll be back.

01:59:21.000 Well, you better come back.

01:59:22.000 It's like no dude.

01:59:23.000 They left your state your state's busted Okay, like all of these governor's begging people to come back like Cuomo's done it too.

01:59:29.000 Yeah, California.

01:59:30.000 I'm sure is not far behind I love how Cuomo was like, please rich people don't leave.

01:59:34.000 We need your money.

01:59:35.000 And then Bill de Blasio was like, good riddance.

01:59:38.000 I thought it was hilarious.

01:59:39.000 Such teamwork.

01:59:40.000 It's really funny now that New Yorkers are fleeing, mostly the wealthy.

01:59:44.000 So the tax base is eroding because it's actually, you mentioned net taxpayers earlier.

01:59:48.000 People don't realize the net taxpayers are actually like the top 10% of the country.

01:59:52.000 Right.

01:59:53.000 A lot of people don't know that it is the top 10% that pay the vast, vast majority of the taxes.

01:59:57.000 I mean, a lot of people are under the assumption that, like, they hear stuff about the Trump story and they're like, oh, teachers pay more.

02:00:02.000 Like, no.

02:00:03.000 What they don't realize is that there was a, I was reading, I was reading a study and I don't have it pulled up, so fact check me.

02:00:09.000 But it was basically saying that all of the net benefits a citizen receives, you'd have to pay something like $100,000 in taxes per year to actually break even.

02:00:17.000 Because the roads, services, clean water, services in terms of the fire department, the police department, then you have health inspection, all of these things, your taxes don't cover on average.

02:00:28.000 It's the rich people paying that covers the excess.

02:00:32.000 So that's net taxpayer.

02:00:34.000 And then is it the very top percent or half percent or quarter percent that doesn't pay anything or something?

02:00:40.000 No, I mean, I've not seen anything like that.

02:00:43.000 Are we talking about income tax?

02:00:45.000 I don't know.

02:00:46.000 Trump paid $750 a year because he's writing off losses.

02:00:49.000 That's not true, though.

02:00:50.000 He's writing off losses.

02:00:51.000 He paid $5.2 million in 2020.

02:00:52.000 But he overpaid $5.1994 of it.

02:00:56.000 Yeah.

02:00:56.000 So he only owed $750.

02:00:57.000 Because he lost $500,000.

02:00:58.000 Right, because he wrote off losses.

02:01:01.000 But do you think people who have net losses should have to pay income tax?

02:01:06.000 No, but that's just the way this... I mean, legally, no, but... I mean, but like morally?

02:01:10.000 Realistically?

02:01:11.000 I don't know.

02:01:13.000 The problem is, I see here, is that Trump lives like a king, but he loses hundreds of millions of dollars.

02:01:19.000 So it's like this paradox of he's losing money, but he still has more money than you.

02:01:22.000 You know what I mean?

02:01:23.000 So it's like a weird situation.

02:01:25.000 Yeah, because like the way the income tax works, it's how much money you've lost or made per that year.

02:01:29.000 It's not a wealth tax.

02:01:30.000 So he could still have a lot of money from previous years or ventures, but if he lost money that year, he's not going to pay.

02:01:36.000 Well, what I mean is that he made $447 million in revenue, and then his expenses were $500 and something.

02:01:44.000 Right.

02:01:44.000 So when that revenue comes in, it's a weird circumstance.

02:01:48.000 The losses aren't hard, like it's depreciation.

02:01:51.000 So he does make millions of dollars.

02:01:55.000 His losses are a combination of actual hard expenses and depreciation of property.

02:01:58.000 I don't know what the solution is, though.

02:02:01.000 Simply because Trump's on top, you're looking at an extreme case, so where they're like, Trump should be paying more in taxes, and it's like, but if you change the rules for him, it affects you.

02:02:10.000 Right.

02:02:10.000 So it's like, the only issue I guess is that Trump has too much.

02:02:14.000 That's their problem.

02:02:15.000 Right, but I mean, when it comes to the New York Times report at least, they did mention that he did pay, like, you know, the payroll tax and all these other types of taxes.

02:02:23.000 So it's not that he's not paying anything save $750.

02:02:26.000 Like, that's still not the case.

02:02:27.000 Yeah, and that's what's funny, too, is when they say he didn't pay any taxes, it's like, you're talking about income tax, right?

02:02:32.000 Yeah.

02:02:33.000 Because when it comes to all other taxes, property, payroll, Medicare, all that stuff, all the limits, he pays everything.

02:02:39.000 Same thing is true with Amazon.

02:02:41.000 They're like, Amazon paid no taxes.

02:02:42.000 Actually, they paid like billions.

02:02:45.000 Corporate income tax they didn't though, but they're also one of those companies that actually they're net losing It wasn't that the thing it's a combination of losses plus the R&D write-offs that they do, right?

02:02:56.000 The company loses but the CEO is worth a hundred and sixty billion or something, you know, this company loses money So he doesn't have to pay income tax No, Jeff Bezos pays income tax.

02:03:06.000 His salary is only $83,000 a year.

02:03:08.000 So he pays income tax on that.

02:03:10.000 And then he has bonuses that total up to like a net value of like a million bucks.

02:03:14.000 Yeah, and a lot of his worth is the amount of the value of Amazon shares that he has.

02:03:21.000 So that's not something, it's not like he has, you know, billions of dollars under his mattress.

02:03:25.000 It's not liquid at all.

02:03:25.000 Yeah, it's not liquid.

02:03:27.000 So that's why wealth taxes don't make sense.

02:03:29.000 Right.

02:03:29.000 Because you can't tax a hard asset.

02:03:31.000 It's paper value.

02:03:33.000 So he's worth all this, he can't sell until contract conditions are met, and then he gets a payout of a certain amount of money.

02:03:40.000 So they want to tax him on these assets that you can't do anything with.

02:03:45.000 So if he was to sell, then he would have to pay taxes on the sale?

02:03:48.000 He can't sell them.

02:03:48.000 Like if he had sold some of his stock?

02:03:50.000 He can't.

02:03:51.000 Oh, he's not allowed?

02:03:52.000 And pay taxes on the sale.

02:03:53.000 But not before.

02:03:53.000 The way it works, I think, for Amazon is that under certain conditions they allow him to sell.

02:03:58.000 So like, when a certain target is reached, then he was able to like,

02:04:01.000 sell off a certain amount in exchange for a certain amount.

02:04:03.000 And pay taxes on the sale.

02:04:05.000 And then pay taxes on the income that comes through and stuff like that.

02:04:07.000 It's a system built by rich people for rich people.

02:04:10.000 I definitely think so, for sure, yeah.

02:04:11.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:04:12.000 And that's why the Gravel Institute... I will say this about the Gravel people, is that I don't like that they try to be so mean, you know?

02:04:21.000 And I can say that's true for a lot of conservatives, too.

02:04:24.000 If you want to argue against PragerU... You saw what they're doing, right?

02:04:28.000 Oh yeah, we did a video on it.

02:04:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:04:30.000 Yeah, they got H. John Benjamin, which... Right, right, right.

02:04:33.000 Sad.

02:04:34.000 So they're like, we're going to counter PragerU, but they say like, PragerU is lying.

02:04:38.000 And it's, it's lies.

02:04:39.000 And then they insult them.

02:04:40.000 And I'm like, you don't need to do that.

02:04:41.000 You don't need that.

02:04:42.000 That's, that's Sully's your brand.

02:04:43.000 Just make your videos rebutting and giving your argument because they put out a video that said, is big government really the problem?

02:04:49.000 I thought it was a great video.

02:04:50.000 Yeah.

02:04:51.000 They, they, they fudged a lot of the numbers there.

02:04:53.000 For sure, I disagree with a lot of their premise, but I like that they said Democrats and Republicans don't work for you, they're working for the ultra-elites and the rich people, and then they give you their argument, and then you can say, I agree or I disagree, but as long as we all agree that the crony establishment politicians don't actually care about any of us, we're making good ground.

02:05:12.000 But actually, you know who doesn't apparently agree with that is Soledad O'Brien.

02:05:15.000 So she's a reporter that I used to think was like really, you know, unbiased and fair, but she's got TDS now.

02:05:22.000 And did you guys see Chris Rock's opening monologue for Saturday Night Live?

02:05:25.000 Yeah.

02:05:25.000 Well, he went on this whole spiel about how he wants term limits because he kind of says like, we rejected kings in America, but we have this class of dukes and duchesses ruling over us, which I'm like, yeah, I agree with that.

02:05:36.000 Term limits and stuff like that.

02:05:37.000 And Soledad O'Brien is just like, no, this is like, just no.

02:05:40.000 Like, what is the non-swamp establishment reason for opposing term limits?

02:05:45.000 You lose Rand Paul.

02:05:47.000 Yeah, that's the only thing.

02:05:49.000 But you'd lose a lot of other people, and I think the gains... The other issue is that seniority in Congress determines a lot of what you can and can't do.

02:05:57.000 So if we had term limits, you'd have a whole bunch of inexperienced people randomly being in charge of committees and not understanding how they work.

02:06:04.000 Well, you'd be assuming that they would all be kind of coming and leaving at the same time, which isn't necessarily the case, right?

02:06:11.000 So if you have, let's say, I get five election cycle limit in Congress

02:06:16.000 So that'd be like I don't know ten years in the house That's still I think enough seniority to be able to manage

02:06:22.000 a committee Yeah, I guess that I guess that it's a bigger issue of what

02:06:26.000 how many terms yeah, so which is which is something That was definitely up for debate, but I mean to just say

02:06:31.000 no 3050 years in you're like totally fine on

02:06:35.000 Don't see any problem with that.

02:06:37.000 Maybe something I haven't heard proposed before is longer terms and hard limits.

02:06:43.000 So like instead of saying five terms for 10 years, we say two terms for 10 years.

02:06:48.000 So that's kind of like what the Senate is doing.

02:06:53.000 I guess that's why we have it different.

02:06:56.000 But the problem is fundraising, and that's the big problem with all of these politicians.

02:07:00.000 All they care about is who's gonna pay the bills to get them elected.

02:07:02.000 And that's why they don't care about regular people.

02:07:04.000 So one of the things Gravel Institute brought up is that There's actually a study that shows this.

02:07:09.000 Regular people have zero impact on policy.

02:07:12.000 It's only the wealthy industry and individuals and lobbyists who actually can sway politicians' opinions.

02:07:18.000 So they found, like, the polling of public opinion had no effect on whether or not a politician would support or oppose a certain bill.

02:07:24.000 That's messed up to me.

02:07:25.000 This is great.

02:07:26.000 Mike Gravel is the guy who came up with that national initiative.

02:07:29.000 This guy, that's awesome.

02:07:30.000 Yeah, I think the Gravel people are cool.

02:07:31.000 I just wish they would... I don't agree with everything they say.

02:07:34.000 I just wish they weren't... I wish they were taking the higher road and not doing the snarky, insulting, you know.

02:07:39.000 I mean, I guess you're... I think so far the only full video they have is by Brianna Joy Gray, who is a former Bernie person.

02:07:46.000 But, I mean, in that video arguing for big government, they fudge a lot of the numbers.

02:07:50.000 For sure.

02:07:51.000 Yeah, which is like... My point is just like, But that video was, I didn't find it, it's not disrespectful or anything, it's very respectable in terms of, yeah.

02:07:59.000 And that's why I'm like, good, good, make your arguments and do it in a way where you're like, hey, here's what we think, no beef.

02:08:04.000 And I'll be like, right on, man, let me go through this and see what I agree with.

02:08:08.000 But, you know, because we have too much on Twitter is just, I hate you, you hate me. 1.00

02:08:12.000 F you. 0.99

02:08:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:08:14.000 I really like your idea of longer terms and like two of them, because then they're not going to spend the whole two years fundraising.

02:08:21.000 Trying to campaign.

02:08:22.000 But the senators are six years, right?

02:08:23.000 Yeah, six years for senators, two years for representatives, four for president, lifetime for Supreme Court.

02:08:29.000 We got, we got a question for you from a Canadian, from Gabriel Rybj, Rybj?

02:08:33.000 Sorry, I'm probably not pronouncing your name right.

02:08:35.000 He says, Hey, Lauren, as a fellow Canadian, I was wondering what you thought of Trudeau's gun ban of May 1st, 2020.

02:08:40.000 I was part of the CCFR's rally on September 12th, protesting against the order in council.

02:08:45.000 We had easily 5,000 people or more.

02:08:48.000 CBC said we were only 800.

02:08:50.000 Classic media spin tactics.

02:08:52.000 Yeah, I mean, the gun laws in Canada are disgusting.

02:08:55.000 The self-defense or lack of self-defense laws in Canada are disgusting. 0.98

02:08:58.000 The CBC is disgusting.

02:08:59.000 We have state-funded media in Canada who, surprise, surprise, are very in favor and biased toward the party that wants to give them a lot of funding.

02:09:08.000 Yeah, there we go.

02:09:08.000 That's what we were just talking about.

02:09:09.000 Very swampy, very gross.

02:09:11.000 Let's see, Swork Witch says, The movie was made by someone who in interview said she

02:09:16.000 wouldn't read the book.

02:09:16.000 Oh, Starship Troopers.

02:09:18.000 Because it's fascist.

02:09:19.000 And set up to make a movie mocking and denouncing the book.

02:09:22.000 In the book, service was not only military.

02:09:24.000 Military tiny.

02:09:25.000 Just dangerous, so has no meaning.

02:09:28.000 Interesting.

02:09:28.000 Can you read that again?

02:09:29.000 Someone said it was fascist?

02:09:31.000 Yeah, the person who made the movie said the book was fascist.

02:09:33.000 Interesting.

02:09:34.000 That's where I got that from.

02:09:35.000 Right.

02:09:35.000 Without reading it.

02:09:36.000 That's why in the movie... I've never read the book, no.

02:09:40.000 What's Doogie Howser's name?

02:09:41.000 Neil Patrick Harris?

02:09:41.000 Is that it?

02:09:42.000 Yeah.

02:09:42.000 His outfit looks like... He hates it when people call him Doogie Howser.

02:09:44.000 Carl.

02:09:45.000 I think he's Carl in the movie.

02:09:47.000 I love that movie.

02:09:47.000 But they make his uniform look like a Nazi uniform.

02:09:49.000 Yes. 1.00

02:09:50.000 It's so dumb. 0.99

02:09:51.000 Yeah, they really make the fascism stand out in that movie. 0.99

02:09:55.000 Jason Freeland says anyone could demand service in the book, even disabled.

02:09:58.000 The government had to come up with something that you could do to allow you to serve.

02:10:02.000 Wow!

02:10:03.000 When you guys say service gives citizenship, do you mean service lets you vote or service lets you become an American citizen?

02:10:09.000 So there were civilians and there were citizens.

02:10:12.000 Civilians had all rights but didn't vote and citizens voted.

02:10:15.000 So everyone's born a civilian and you can become a citizen?

02:10:18.000 Yeah, you have to earn the right to vote.

02:10:19.000 I believe so.

02:10:21.000 Seamus Mowlane says, I'm probably pronouncing your last name wrong.

02:10:25.000 In the book Starship Trooper, citizenship could be gotten via non-military service.

02:10:29.000 However, they made it suck because you were supposed to show a willing to sacrifice for the group benefit versus yourself.

02:10:36.000 Interesting.

02:10:37.000 So, someone else says, any federal service equals citizenship, but only after service was completed.

02:10:42.000 That way, only those who demonstrated willingness to sacrifice for good of others would be given the right to vote.

02:10:47.000 That's really cool.

02:10:48.000 I like that idea.

02:10:49.000 Politically Defiant says, Hey Tim, Lauren, Ian, Lydia, thank you for everything you guys do. 0.50

02:10:53.000 You're all GOATS.

02:10:55.000 Shout out to the parental units for reaching their goals of retirement before 60 and 34 year wedding anniversary today.

02:11:00.000 Love you lots.

02:11:02.000 That's great.

02:11:04.000 That's huge.

02:11:05.000 All right, let's see.

02:11:06.000 Actually Liam and my four year is coming up this week.

02:11:08.000 Oh, yeah.

02:11:10.000 You guys doing anything?

02:11:12.000 Actually, they just closed restaurants where we live.

02:11:14.000 Oh, congratulations!

02:11:16.000 So, no.

02:11:16.000 I mean, we might have a nice evening of Netflix and takeout.

02:11:20.000 It's so crazy that they're escalating it.

02:11:22.000 Yeah.

02:11:23.000 And actually, I might also have to work.

02:11:25.000 But it's funny, like, he told me I was eating a muffin maliciously the other day.

02:11:29.000 Maliciously?

02:11:31.000 Maliciously.

02:11:31.000 Like, looking at him, like, tearing into it?

02:11:33.000 Yeah.

02:11:34.000 Well, yeah.

02:11:35.000 So, I don't know what that's about.

02:11:36.000 But yeah, four years.

02:11:37.000 Yeah, good times.

02:11:38.000 Nice work.

02:11:40.000 Sean Carter says, just want to say hi, Tim and crew.

02:11:42.000 I listened to many of your videos and appreciate your views.

02:11:44.000 I moved deep into the Appalachian mountains.

02:11:47.000 Best thing ever.

02:11:47.000 Guns, ammo, food, and big dogs.

02:11:49.000 That sounds awesome.

02:11:50.000 What kind of big dogs?

02:11:52.000 Dogs are great.

02:11:54.000 Let's see.

02:11:55.000 Bacolic Buffalo says, Robert Barnes explained Trump taxes he paid through the year and his balance was $7.50.

02:12:00.000 Interesting.

02:12:03.000 Let's see, uh, Jalyn Goliday says, can we get a fourth channel Tim Guns?

02:12:06.000 I don't know, don't ask me to name it.

02:12:08.000 Uh, we're gonna be, we're doing a vlog.

02:12:09.000 We're gonna be doing the vlog.

02:12:10.000 Yeah!

02:12:10.000 For that, so.

02:12:11.000 We were just talking about today.

02:12:12.000 Yeah, there will be guns involved. 0.96

02:12:13.000 Man, I'm excited for that channel.

02:12:15.000 We just got a 20 foot inflatable projector screen.

02:12:19.000 That you just like, you turn the pump on and then it fills up.

02:12:22.000 And then you like, put like, stakes in the ground.

02:12:24.000 And then you put it outside.

02:12:26.000 And we can watch like, movie theater, so.

02:12:28.000 So the movie theaters are all going out of business, you know, Regal announced they're like shutting all stores, AMC is suing Jersey, and so we're gonna have our own 20-foot screen, 4k, you know, and we're gonna watch movies, I guess.

02:12:38.000 The future is now.

02:12:39.000 Yeah, yeah, I think we're, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, um, assuming the lockdown doesn't, you know, come for us, whatever, because you can't have parties, I guess.

02:12:47.000 All right, let's see.

02:12:48.000 Level 99 Mastermind says, to what extent should the media be held responsible for what they do?

02:12:52.000 They are definitely playing a serious role in pushing large swaths of people over the edge to the point of mass civil unrest through deliberate disinformation.

02:12:59.000 True.

02:13:00.000 First amendment, man?

02:13:01.000 I don't know.

02:13:01.000 Well, I mean, I don't like the idea of Prosecuting journalists is not a good look.

02:13:05.000 But I mean, let's take the Nick Sandman case for instance.

02:13:08.000 I think that's a better way to hold journalists accountable.

02:13:11.000 Like, if you can demonstrably prove that, you know, so-and-so person committed libel or slander, I think there's grounds for civil recourse and then hopefully the financial incentive will be there for them to not randomly label people like white nationalists.

02:13:24.000 The issue, I think, is that we have this ruling called Times v. Sullivan where it's basically You have to prove when it comes to public figures that they actually knew they were lying.

02:13:35.000 And the challenge then is there's also anti-SLAPP laws, strategic lawsuits against public participation.

02:13:40.000 So what happens is, New York Times will say, you know, Lauren Chen is a Nazi or something.

02:13:45.000 And you'll say, that's not true.

02:13:46.000 They'll first go, it's an opinion.

02:13:48.000 And then dismissed.

02:13:50.000 Anti-slap.

02:13:50.000 Knock it down.

02:13:51.000 Well, for the Nick Sandman thing, I mean, they were saying that he had, for example, done things that he hadn't.

02:13:57.000 Like he had approached the guy or whatever.

02:13:59.000 And that's not an opinion thing.

02:14:00.000 That's a fact.

02:14:02.000 So most of the claims made by Sandman were dropped, except for the outlet said that he blocked his path.

02:14:09.000 Right.

02:14:10.000 And so the judge ruled, well, that's a statement of fact.

02:14:13.000 And so the challenge then, because they've determined there is a false statement of fact,

02:14:18.000 it could potentially go to discovery, where these news outlets then have to produce emails

02:14:22.000 and correspondence between their employees as to what they were talking about, so that Sandman and

02:14:26.000 his lawyers can determine whether or not they knew what they were saying was false. They immediately

02:14:30.000 settled. You know why? Their credibility. I've...

02:14:33.000 I've been in these chat rooms with journalists like this.

02:14:36.000 The things they say, if you only knew.

02:14:38.000 Of course they have opinions.

02:14:40.000 Of course they're all far-left activists.

02:14:41.000 Okay, not every single one of them, but a lot of them in these chat rooms.

02:14:45.000 And the ones who aren't probably don't say anything out of fear of being ostracized or fired or whatever.

02:14:49.000 So could you imagine if the Washington Post, the New York Times, CNN, and these news outlets had their internal Slack logs released?

02:14:57.000 Because they were like, we never knew. 1.00

02:14:59.000 Then we would see they were all really dumb. 1.00

02:15:01.000 Yeah, they'd be released in Discovery and they'd be exposed. 0.98

02:15:04.000 Well, it would go to the lawyers, and then to what extent they could release it, I don't know, but they'd probably start talking about it.

02:15:08.000 Sounds like James O'Keefe has another... Another project, yeah.

02:15:12.000 What do you guys think about the phenomena of news organizations releasing a story, getting ad revenue on it, and then having to make a retraction, but not... The retraction also gets ad revenue.

02:15:22.000 And no one sees the retraction.

02:15:23.000 Like, I've seen stuff like that.

02:15:24.000 The original story, like 100,000 likes, whatever.

02:15:27.000 Correction, 4,000 likes.

02:15:29.000 That's not the issue, though.

02:15:30.000 That is an issue.

02:15:31.000 They're still making money off of it.

02:15:32.000 Exactly.

02:15:32.000 They make money on the fake article, and then when they apologize, they make money on the apology.

02:15:37.000 So how would we rectify something like that?

02:15:39.000 Hold the ad revenue from news organizations?

02:15:41.000 No, you can't.

02:15:42.000 They have a First Amendment right to say whatever they want.

02:15:44.000 Well, within certain confines.

02:15:46.000 You can't incite violence.

02:15:47.000 But you can lie.

02:15:49.000 You can't lie about someone, but I could make a post all day saying the sky is red.

02:15:52.000 Don't at me.

02:15:56.000 Right, exactly.

02:15:57.000 So, you know, if lying was not protected, then you'd have no satire articles.

02:16:01.000 Because it's meant to be jokes, but whether or not someone believes it is a different story.

02:16:07.000 So we got this really great super chat.

02:16:09.000 Wait, hang on, what was, in terms of like the whole, like, oh, this is an opinion, what, who was it, Majid Nawaz, didn't he win a huge settlement from the Southern Poverty?

02:16:18.000 Well, they made a ton of crazy statements about him, so it's like... But I think that he should have got that, like you can't... Oh, yeah, totally, he won like, what, $3 million or almost $4 million?

02:16:26.000 Yeah, something like that.

02:16:27.000 Yup.

02:16:28.000 And then they fired all their, you know, executive structure at the SPLC.

02:16:32.000 Yeah.

02:16:33.000 Man, they they once SPLC once claimed that I went to Iran for a Holocaust deniers conference, huh?

02:16:39.000 And the best part was I've never been to Iran But their source was not that a website.

02:16:46.000 It was a Holocaust denier conspiracy theory website and But the best part was, it wasn't just that it was a website, but the website itself had been deleted, and they found an archived version of it to use as their source to claim, I had personally traveled to Iran for a holocaust. 0.62

02:16:59.000 I'm just like, wow.

02:17:01.000 That's dedication.

02:17:02.000 At least the Moonland hoax people actually look at real photographs and say, here's what I think about this photograph.

02:17:09.000 They straight up went to a conspiracy theorist website that didn't even exist anymore.

02:17:12.000 Did you sue?

02:17:13.000 So they also defamed several other people.

02:17:17.000 And it resulted in an immediate retraction and apology, like within a couple days.

02:17:22.000 So they smeared a bunch of lefties as like right-wing, far-right, or alt-right.

02:17:27.000 And then you immediately had, like these people are just obviously left-wing, like some of these people that were getting smeared.

02:17:35.000 And then they issued this big apology.

02:17:37.000 They were like, Oh, we were just trying to say that there are certain elements of the left that share the same ideology as the right, and we're so sorry, and they weasel worded their way out of it.

02:17:44.000 But they issued a direct apology to me and said I was left-wing.

02:17:48.000 Isn't that funny?

02:17:49.000 They had to say I was left-wing.

02:17:51.000 I love that. 0.95

02:17:52.000 Because they went nuts.

02:17:54.000 So I'm like, whenever someone tries claiming I'm right-wing, I'm like, oh, the SPLC said I was left-wing.

02:17:59.000 They did.

02:17:59.000 And they're the source, right?

02:18:01.000 All right, here we go.

02:18:02.000 Top Dog says, this may have been the best episode I've seen so far.

02:18:06.000 Lauren is engaged, smart, and quick-witted. 0.99

02:18:08.000 Please have her on more often.

02:18:10.000 Yes.

02:18:11.000 Um, but you have your own show.

02:18:12.000 What's your, what's your YouTube?

02:18:13.000 Yes, it is Pseudo Intellectual with Lauren Chen is the show. 0.79

02:18:16.000 Because I am Lauren Chen.

02:18:18.000 Uh, the YouTube channel is Lauren Chen.

02:18:20.000 We, we publish everything on there.

02:18:21.000 We're also on Blaze TV, but you can find all of our stuff on YouTube.

02:18:25.000 And like I was saying, the audio only platforms are what we're trying to push now.

02:18:28.000 A little bit more reliable.

02:18:29.000 iTunes, Spotify, Google Play.

02:18:31.000 Yup.

02:18:32.000 Well, with that being said, it is now 20 minutes past.

02:18:35.000 Before anything, I wanted to, along the lines of how cool Lauren is, she brought us some soap, and I wanted to shout it out.

02:18:41.000 It's called Clearly Pure.

02:18:43.000 What are you trying to say about us, Lauren?

02:18:44.000 Yeah, I'm saying that you need soap.

02:18:46.000 Yeah.

02:18:47.000 She bought, uh, these are three different kinds.

02:18:49.000 And she gave it to Ian specifically.

02:18:50.000 No, I gave it to all of you!

02:18:52.000 First, the Kissing Bit.

02:18:53.000 Guinness Birch.

02:18:55.000 Is that what this is?

02:18:56.000 Yeah, it's made with actual Guinness, which my dad and fiancé say is a very big waste, but the hops is actually pretty good.

02:19:03.000 I love it.

02:19:04.000 It smells amazing.

02:19:05.000 This looks like, what is this, a turmeric and nettle cleanse?

02:19:10.000 That sounds like it's right up your alley.

02:19:11.000 Yeah, I love turmeric.

02:19:12.000 I put it in my coffee.

02:19:14.000 And a salt.

02:19:15.000 Is that what that says?

02:19:16.000 Tough on germs.

02:19:17.000 This is lemongrass, tea tree, and eucalyptus.

02:19:20.000 Yeah, Liam actually was the brains behind that soap because he wanted something for, he does MMA, and they use a special soap to prevent against staph infections.

02:19:28.000 Oh, smart.

02:19:29.000 So we made a natural equivalent with essential oils and stuff.

02:19:32.000 Oh, wow.

02:19:33.000 Wait, you made that?

02:19:34.000 Oh, when I say I do the graphic design for that, my mom is the one who makes all the products.

02:19:39.000 Yeah, we have a family business.

02:19:41.000 So sweet!

02:19:41.000 Can people get this?

02:19:42.000 Yeah, they can get it online.

02:19:44.000 And actually, like, my dad's been having health issues, so Liam's been such a sweetie.

02:19:48.000 He was actually, like, at the market with me selling last weekend.

02:19:51.000 Wow, what's the website?

02:19:53.000 ClearlyPure.com.

02:19:55.000 Thank you so much.

02:19:56.000 Is it spelled P-U-R?

02:19:57.000 Yeah, P-U-R because it's trendy and millennial. 0.98

02:20:00.000 Just like you.

02:20:03.000 I didn't realize we'd shout out your own soap company, but that's really awesome.

02:20:06.000 Sweet! 0.95

02:20:07.000 Well, to everybody who hung out, make sure you smash that like button on the way out.

02:20:10.000 Don't forget to follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at Timcast.

02:20:14.000 And, uh, we actually have audio-only versions of this show, too.

02:20:16.000 I never shout it out, but, you know, now that you reminded me.

02:20:19.000 So, uh, this show is available on iTunes, on Spotify, and all the other places.

02:20:23.000 But you can also follow my other channels, YouTube.com slash Timcast and slash Timcast News.

02:20:27.000 Two different channels.

02:20:29.000 And you can also, uh, also, of course, follow at Ian Crossland.

02:20:31.000 Yes, follow me on YouTube.

02:20:33.000 I just started, I made another video, a behind-the-scenes video of my rig, my gaming rig downstairs.

02:20:38.000 And you can follow me on Twitter.

02:20:39.000 You need to play some goose game?

02:20:40.000 Streaming goose?

02:20:41.000 I don't think so.

02:20:42.000 I want to play it.

02:20:43.000 It's just not hot action enough.

02:20:45.000 No, it's the best.

02:20:45.000 You're a goose and you're running from a dude because you like stole his keys and he like trips and falls.

02:20:49.000 It's amazing.

02:20:50.000 It is pretty funny looking.

02:20:51.000 Yeah.

02:20:52.000 And also you can follow at Sour Patch Lids.

02:20:54.000 Yes, you can.

02:20:54.000 I'm over here.

02:20:55.000 Sour Patch Lids on Twitter.

02:20:56.000 And that's with an L-Y-D-S. 1.00

02:20:57.000 That's my name.

02:20:59.000 So, yeah, we do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m.

02:21:03.000 So, what's today?

02:21:03.000 Monday.

02:21:04.000 We'll have clips up throughout the day tomorrow.

02:21:05.000 Yep.

02:21:05.000 We have another awesome guest coming tomorrow.

02:21:07.000 We're gonna have a lot of really cool conversations with some people.

02:21:09.000 We're gonna have a big week.

02:21:10.000 It's gonna be pretty crazy.

02:21:11.000 We might get in trouble with some of the people we're bringing.

02:21:13.000 Yeah.

02:21:13.000 Spicy.

02:21:14.000 It's gonna get spicy.

02:21:15.000 I'm excited.

02:21:15.000 But I'm no longer gonna be announcing because we've had, like, cancellations and it's a huge letdown.

02:21:19.000 Wait, oh.

02:21:21.000 Oh, not that they were like, goaded into canceling or bullied.

02:21:24.000 No, no, no, no.

02:21:25.000 Like, oh, I missed my flight.

02:21:26.000 I can't come.

02:21:27.000 And I'm like, oh, yeah.

02:21:28.000 So we'll probably just, yeah.

02:21:30.000 COVID's been really making it difficult.

02:21:32.000 Anyway, everybody, thank you all so much for hanging out.

02:21:34.000 This was, this was a really, really awesome, awesome show.

02:21:36.000 Lauren, thanks so much for, for hanging out as well.

02:21:38.000 Yeah, thank you so much for having me.

02:21:39.000 And guys, like, they are the best hosts.

02:21:41.000 Like, they picked me up at the airport.

02:21:43.000 I mean, they're so nice.

02:21:43.000 Usually people, if I'm, like, going on a show or something, it's like, have fun with your Uber and, like, your hotel, like, we'll just catch you during the thing.

02:21:51.000 But, like, you guys are so hospitable.

02:21:52.000 I really appreciate it.

02:21:53.000 That's one thing I don't like, where it's like, when I've been booked for shows, they'll be like, here's your flight.

02:21:59.000 And then I have no communication with any of the people.

02:22:01.000 Yeah.

02:22:01.000 And then it's like, you just show up.

02:22:02.000 The day of, a car pulls up to the hotel and they're like, we're taking you.

02:22:05.000 I'm like, where?

02:22:06.000 Where, when, what's going on?

02:22:07.000 Should I just get in his car?

02:22:09.000 And then they drop you off at the studio.

02:22:11.000 I'm like, where's the door to get in?

02:22:13.000 And then you figure it out, you know.

02:22:14.000 But anyway, hey, thanks for hanging out.

02:22:15.000 And yeah, well, you're always welcome.

02:22:17.000 So to everybody else, smash the like button on your way out.

02:22:20.000 Subscribe, notification, all the good stuff.

02:22:22.000 And we will see you tomorrow at 8 p.m.

02:22:24.000 live.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 06, 2020

Timcast IRL - TRUMP LIVES! POTUS Leaves Hospital As Outraged Journalists Shake Fists w-Lauren Chen

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