Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump Staging A COUP?! Journalists Panic Over Trump's Latest Move w- Jack Murphy

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00:00:16.000 Man, it's getting crazy.

00:00:17.000 I'll tell you this.

00:00:18.000 The left, not all, like the resistance media people, I'm seeing a bunch of tweets where they're kind of freaking out.

00:00:24.000 Hey, turn that off.

00:00:24.000 What are you doing?

00:00:25.000 It's not me.

00:00:26.000 He's watching the stream.

00:00:27.000 Oh, that's my fault.

00:00:28.000 Oh, Timothy!

00:00:29.000 Always blaming me, Tim.

00:00:31.000 Well, you were the one on your phone.

00:00:32.000 Welcome back, everyone.

00:00:34.000 You're sitting there on your phone.

00:00:35.000 That was my fault.

00:00:36.000 I just fired out.

00:00:36.000 I had to tweet.

00:00:37.000 And I'm like, what are you doing with your phone?

00:00:39.000 What's going on?

00:00:39.000 There's a boomer among us.

00:00:40.000 Just keep blaming me, man.

00:00:41.000 I want the attention.

00:00:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:00:43.000 Everyone look at Ian.

00:00:44.000 Everyone look at Ian.

00:00:44.000 Hi, everyone.

00:00:46.000 There's Ian.

00:00:46.000 PJ Man.

00:00:47.000 We're live.

00:00:51.000 So this article comes up, and they're like, could Trump really stage a coup?

00:00:55.000 Who?

00:00:55.000 And there's like murmurs now that Trump is planning on staging some kind of coup.

00:01:01.000 But it's, uh, I don't know, man.

00:01:03.000 It's really weird.

00:01:04.000 I'll tell you this.

00:01:06.000 A lot of people on the right have said if there ever was a civil war, the left will regret it.

00:01:11.000 We would win so fast.

00:01:13.000 And I said, that's not that's not true at all.

00:01:16.000 The left controls the technological institutions.

00:01:19.000 They would shut down your means of communication instantly.

00:01:22.000 I'm not saying there's a coup.

00:01:24.000 I'm not saying anything's going on.

00:01:24.000 I have no idea.

00:01:25.000 But we have an article from The Guardian.

00:01:27.000 If that was the case and Donald Trump decided to just ignore the courts, ignore the lawsuits, and say, you know what?

00:01:32.000 I'm not leaving.

00:01:33.000 I'll tell you the first thing that's gonna happen is social media would go down across the board.

00:01:36.000 Just like it just did with YouTube.

00:01:37.000 Just totally gone.

00:01:39.000 Anyway, let's just get into it, because, I don't know, the internet's back and we're like 36 minutes late, so we have a bunch to talk about.

00:01:48.000 Jack Murphy is here, as usual, for Wednesdays.

00:01:50.000 Hello, everybody.

00:01:51.000 Good to be back.

00:01:52.000 Nice to see you.

00:01:52.000 You can see behind him, it says playback error.

00:01:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:56.000 Oh, I got a request to keep that on dark night mode from now on, because it was blinding someone trying to watch the show in the dark.

00:02:01.000 It's always on dark mode.

00:02:02.000 Is it?

00:02:02.000 Yeah, literally always.

00:02:03.000 No, it was really bright yesterday.

00:02:04.000 Yeah, it was like a white screen.

00:02:06.000 Oh, okay, okay.

00:02:07.000 Doing what I can, folks.

00:02:08.000 You know what, man?

00:02:09.000 We're just gonna, we're gonna chill.

00:02:10.000 We're gonna talk about whatever.

00:02:12.000 Half an hour late.

00:02:14.000 Coup?

00:02:14.000 We were just doing the show anyway, just sitting here.

00:02:16.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:02:17.000 I know.

00:02:18.000 If the people who are listening, who weren't listening now, if only you could hear what we're talking about, all this top secret stuff.

00:02:25.000 It was this, but better.

00:02:26.000 Yeah, it sure was.

00:02:28.000 Coup or no coup, Jack?

00:02:30.000 Well, what is the precondition for a coup?

00:02:32.000 I guess he would have to be legally required to depart, and I just don't know that I'm there yet.

00:02:37.000 Which is normal, right?

00:02:39.000 Yeah, I think we're going through a very normal process right now.

00:02:42.000 Making sure the votes are good?

00:02:43.000 Checking the system?

00:02:44.000 Shaking it?

00:02:44.000 Making sure it's nice and sturdy?

00:02:46.000 Quite literally, what's happening right now is normal and the way it's supposed to be.

00:02:51.000 And it's very strange the media is trying to tell us it's not.

00:02:54.000 So think about how the Constitution lays out how the process works.

00:02:57.000 There's actually a dedicated period for legal challenges.

00:03:00.000 They actually say, like, you have until this day to resolve your state legal disputes.

00:03:05.000 It's expected this would happen.

00:03:06.000 I mean, remember when that one dude shot that other dude?

00:03:09.000 No, it happened so many times in our politics, which dude are we talking about?

00:03:12.000 But how about Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr?

00:03:14.000 I was just watching that musical today.

00:03:16.000 It used to be that, like, I'm running for president. 0.92

00:03:18.000 Well, you're a heathen! 0.91

00:03:20.000 How dare you besmirch my honor! 0.99

00:03:22.000 Pistols at dawn!

00:03:24.000 Duel's word up. 1.00

00:03:25.000 They go kill each other.

00:03:26.000 Nowadays, it's like, you know, Mitt Romney goes, Obama, you won!

00:03:29.000 I'm not even gonna try!

00:03:31.000 You win!

00:03:32.000 And he walks away.

00:03:33.000 That's because they're all part of the same party.

00:03:35.000 Yeah, the uniparty.

00:03:36.000 Not even a party.

00:03:37.000 No, this is Trump still fighting the uniparty.

00:03:39.000 Wouldn't be surprised.

00:03:40.000 Wouldn't be surprised.

00:03:41.000 Total speculation.

00:03:43.000 If some people in the GOP establishment might not be too upset to see even if the Democrats stole the election.

00:03:49.000 Of course.

00:03:49.000 I mean, look at the Never Trumpers.

00:03:50.000 Look at the Lincoln Project.

00:03:52.000 The Lincoln Project is going after Trump's lawyers and the law firm itself and their clients.

00:03:58.000 As I think Will Chamberlain said, they said, I think this was him, that's going after the the law firm and their clients is not indicative of a movement that thinks they're on track for victory.

00:04:10.000 Right.

00:04:11.000 They're desperate and they're targeting their it's it's it's disgusting. 0.99

00:04:16.000 It's really dirty.

00:04:17.000 So Lincoln Project never Trumpers posted the pictures, the phone numbers and email addresses of two of these lawyers.

00:04:24.000 Yeah, I saw that.

00:04:25.000 I reported that tweet.

00:04:26.000 Yeah, make them famous.

00:04:28.000 And then they, uh, someone said go after their clients and they said, on it.

00:04:34.000 You have a right to legal representation.

00:04:36.000 You have a right to file your legal challenge.

00:04:39.000 And we're supposed to have a civil process, civil suits, where it's like, I object to your assertion that these ballots are good and I will see you in court.

00:04:48.000 Good, sir.

00:04:49.000 And then they show up and they target your lawyers so that you can't actually even go through that process.

00:04:54.000 And they target them by doing what?

00:04:56.000 Dox them?

00:04:57.000 Publishing their private information and saying, go after them.

00:04:59.000 Oh yeah.

00:04:59.000 That one judge got, remember that, that, that lady judge got, that lady judge, that female woman judge got attacked.

00:05:05.000 Her husband and son got killed in her house.

00:05:09.000 I remember that.

00:05:09.000 Someone went to the house, knocked on the door and then put a bullet in the chest of the kid.

00:05:13.000 We were just talking to the male lady today and like about how insecure male trucks are. 1.00

00:05:17.000 Like, and they're not supposed to carry weapons, but like, they're carrying valuable goods.

00:05:21.000 They're not armored.

00:05:22.000 They're, and you can just like, so like, but they're not supposed to carry weapons.

00:05:27.000 And I think maybe they should start carrying weapons for defense.

00:05:31.000 She was saying that you can't carry anything, but you've got people who are like, you're in a mail vehicle full of stuff, delivering things.

00:05:38.000 You know what I mean?

00:05:38.000 So.

00:05:39.000 I don't know, man.

00:05:40.000 A little off topic there.

00:05:41.000 Yeah, just a smidge.

00:05:43.000 I'm still reeling.

00:05:44.000 Welcome home, Jack.

00:05:46.000 Tim made a good point last night when we were talking about some of the Republicans not being there for Trump, like they're just using him to get Supreme Court nominees, get a few things, and then happy to see him go.

00:05:57.000 And now they've packed the, well, not packed the court, but got some Republicans in there, some conservatives, I guess you would call them.

00:06:04.000 Which, Republicans don't even necessarily have to be conservative anymore.

00:06:07.000 Trump's always been fighting the establishment on the right, establishment on the left, and in fact, Trump isn't... We, the network, the network of people tired of the Uniparty, tired of the corporatists, tired of the globals, we are the ones that launched Trump.

00:06:24.000 It wasn't that Trump was some amazing politician and he's like some amazing orator.

00:06:29.000 It's that we picked him and we catapulted him.

00:06:32.000 Grassroots effort, people donating their time and energy and becoming part of this whole movement.

00:06:38.000 It's a movement that launched Donald Trump to the top.

00:06:41.000 And whatever happens to Donald Trump, that movement is still going to be there.

00:06:44.000 And that movement is against and anti towards the establishment.

00:06:49.000 So the establishment hates Trump, hates all of us, and wants to see us all squash.

00:06:53.000 And it's not just the idea of establishment.

00:06:55.000 It's this specific establishment that's been corrupted by, if it's a global monetary obsession or this desire to prevent World War III through military coercion.

00:07:04.000 Hi, Betsy. 1.00

00:07:05.000 Betsy's here.

00:07:06.000 It's an improper establishment that I think I'm against anyway.

00:07:10.000 I'm not anti-establishment in general.

00:07:12.000 I just don't like this current problem.

00:07:14.000 Come on, you're wearing pajamas.

00:07:16.000 You're very anti-establishment.

00:07:17.000 If we could establish a functional... You're not anti-establishment, so that means you're establishment.

00:07:22.000 Well, if you're not actively anti-establishment, sir.

00:07:26.000 You are pro-establishment.

00:07:27.000 Exactly.

00:07:28.000 We are anti-est. 0.95

00:07:29.000 I'm anti-est.

00:07:30.000 I'm anti-this-est.

00:07:32.000 But I would like to establish something valid, you know, where the votes are tallied in plain sight, where we can trust each other, where there's no war, where humanity has enough food.

00:07:43.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:07:44.000 The votes are tallied in plain sight.

00:07:46.000 The anomaly here is that specific votes weren't tallied in plain sight.

00:07:49.000 Well, they're tallied on a computer program.

00:07:52.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:07:53.000 And that's part of it.

00:07:54.000 Proprietary one.

00:07:56.000 Oh, here she comes. 1.00

00:07:57.000 So we have a full hand recount coming in Georgia.

00:07:59.000 Yeah, we do.

00:08:00.000 Is that a recount or is that a recanvass or is that an audit?

00:08:04.000 Everything.

00:08:04.000 They're going to look at each ballot?

00:08:06.000 Secretary of State said everything.

00:08:08.000 He said recount, a recount, an audit, and a recanvass.

00:08:13.000 Oh, boom.

00:08:14.000 There you go.

00:08:15.000 We'll see.

00:08:16.000 Some people are saying they're still going to, after they segregate them, run them through the scanners.

00:08:20.000 But look, man, it's always been insane that we use proprietary software to do our elections.

00:08:28.000 It should be open source and the code should be available on the web.

00:08:32.000 And we should be able to load up that code in real time as they're sliding those ballots in so we can all watch.

00:08:39.000 The only reason they would want to hide anything is because they's a cheating.

00:08:44.000 Open source is safer in many instances, right?

00:08:46.000 Because people get to test it.

00:08:48.000 It's not so much about, um, like you wouldn't be able to, I guess one of the challenges is that you can't, these machines aren't supposed to be connected to the internet at all.

00:08:56.000 And therein lies a serious problem.

00:08:57.000 If they are, they can be exploited remotely, but if they aren't, then they can be exploited before and then activate the exploits after.

00:09:04.000 So it's, we had this glitch in Michigan and the company is saying, no, no, it was human error.

00:09:09.000 The 6,000 votes that went, that were for Trump, but went to Biden.

00:09:12.000 That was it.

00:09:12.000 That was human error.

00:09:14.000 But we're seeing similar numbers across the board.

00:09:19.000 So you think that if Trump is the one that rejects the outcome, certified outcome, constitutional outcome, that one of the first signs that we would see is what?

00:09:29.000 Total shutdown of all social media?

00:09:31.000 Yeah.

00:09:31.000 Well, I think in any capacity, like, I don't know if we're, we're ever going to get anywhere near that, but I'll, I'll put it this way before we get into like this, like really out there conversation.

00:09:41.000 Oh, we're talking about Trump going to war.

00:09:46.000 Let me just say warning.

00:09:48.000 Disappointing.

00:09:49.000 on Saturday when they called it for Joe Biden, where it seemed like everybody

00:09:53.000 just agreed Joe Biden wins. And there were Trump supporters who seemed to be

00:09:59.000 stopping and looking around to check the temperature. There were certain

00:10:03.000 personalities I won't name who are kind of like not... Are we fighting this or not?

00:10:09.000 Right? Right.

00:10:10.000 Right, right, right.

00:10:11.000 Are we all just going to lay down and let them run in or are we going nuts?

00:10:14.000 And then now you can see, I don't want to call anybody out specifically because I know there's a lot of people who watch, but some TV people, some TV personalities really seemed like they were gearing up for laying down their sword until they saw the likes of Don Jr.

00:10:28.000 and people like Sebastian Gorka and other high-profile Trump-supporting personalities went charge They were waiting for their cue.

00:10:35.000 whether Trump supporters were like, yes, yes, yes, of course, waiting for their cue.

00:10:39.000 Yeah. Well, they want to make sure they weren't going to be jumping in with the,

00:10:42.000 with, you know, on the sinking ship. Yeah. Unsupported. So it's an information war and

00:10:47.000 you got to have all kinds of information weapons and you have foot soldiers and infantry and people

00:10:51.000 in the trenches, cross grassroots, crowdsourced meme makers, influencers spontaneously erupting,

00:10:59.000 you know, canvassers and et cetera.

00:11:01.000 And you need like artillery cover for your ground troops, man, in an information war.

00:11:07.000 And the way that you do that is by getting out there in front and laying down the narrative and then also supporting people that are victims in the information war, which is something that I've heard as a criticism from the Trump administration, that they did not protect people who were victims in the info war.

00:11:22.000 Yup.

00:11:22.000 And they should have done a better job of that.

00:11:24.000 And it does make it hard to attract quality people and retain quality people if you're not going to protect them in this information scuffle.

00:11:31.000 But at least Don Jr.

00:11:32.000 and them going out big time was enough to just rally the troops and have everybody go, which no matter what the outcome, we have a nation worldwide open source intelligence operation underway, perhaps like nothing we've ever seen before.

00:11:46.000 Comparable to COVID, but you know, just in a presidential election, first time it's ever happened like this.

00:11:52.000 And you know what?

00:11:52.000 If everybody's working on it and they're all thinking about it, and the answer is that he has lost, I feel like everybody, knowing that they've spent all their powder, can accept that.

00:12:03.000 But not until then.

00:12:04.000 I think at the very least, we have to try.

00:12:06.000 We have to make sure when accusations or allegations come up, we clear the air because we're hyperpolarized.

00:12:11.000 Yeah.

00:12:12.000 So under normal circumstances, if it was like, you know, if it was 2016 and Hillary started screaming about the Russians, you know, it's like, okay, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll entertain this, you know, we'll look into it.

00:12:22.000 Then they went kind of nuts with it for several years.

00:12:24.000 And now I'm like, Hey, if you're going to do the Russian thing, we're going to do the vote fraud thing. 0.90

00:12:27.000 End of story.

00:12:28.000 But ultimately the point is if you're this polarized, the last thing you want to do is say, we refuse to listen to you do as we say and submit, because then people are going to be like, No.

00:12:39.000 There's a chance for cooperation.

00:12:40.000 All right, we heard you.

00:12:41.000 There may be some fraud.

00:12:42.000 We're going to treat this fairly.

00:12:44.000 We're going to do a recount and an audit to make sure that this is right.

00:12:46.000 And if you lost, accept it.

00:12:47.000 And that really will defang any aggression.

00:12:50.000 There will still be some people who are like, no.

00:12:52.000 But ultimately, that's what has to happen.

00:12:54.000 They're not doing that, though.

00:12:55.000 Right.

00:12:55.000 As Don Jr.

00:12:56.000 set the tone for their network, Charge.

00:13:00.000 Yeah.

00:13:00.000 Joe Biden sets the tone for his network saying Office of the President-Elect and just running with it and starting to float names for cabinets and etc.

00:13:09.000 So they're clearly not taking the approach of this is how it's supposed to be.

00:13:14.000 There's a period for legal challenges and even if that gets screwed up, hey, it's written down and agreed to that the state legislatures can slate whatever electors that they want basically.

00:13:23.000 So that's all normal.

00:13:24.000 It's unusual, but it's all legal.

00:13:27.000 It's all part of the system.

00:13:27.000 I don't even think it's unusual.

00:13:28.000 It's that the media has created this perspective for a generation, where it's, we call the election.

00:13:33.000 Look at what the New York Times tweeted.

00:13:35.000 You see what the New York Times tweeted?

00:13:36.000 It's the job of the media to call a presidential election.

00:13:38.000 Yeah, I screencapped that immediately, knowing that they were going to delete that.

00:13:42.000 That was insane.

00:13:43.000 They're like, only the media declares the winner, and we're going to explain how.

00:13:47.000 Thread.

00:13:48.000 Like one slash X. And then it got deleted.

00:13:52.000 Real quick.

00:13:53.000 Right.

00:13:53.000 That's a good one.

00:13:54.000 This is normal, what's happening.

00:13:57.000 There's an election.

00:13:58.000 They're tallying the votes and they have not certified them.

00:14:02.000 But the media has created a perspective that it's supposed to be them who calls it and

00:14:05.000 when they do it's over!

00:14:06.000 That's how it's always been!

00:14:08.000 We're in charge!

00:14:09.000 Trump says, uh, we still have to tell certification.

00:14:12.000 The normal process is the process in the Constitution.

00:14:15.000 It is weird to me that we have a contested election, even if it looks like Trump is going to lose, and the media is saying, shut up and submit!

00:14:23.000 Stop saying this!

00:14:25.000 I look at CNN, they ran this video where they're like, right-wing individuals putting out misinformation that Trump could still win!

00:14:32.000 It's crazy because it has never been this obvious.

00:14:37.000 I feel like we're watching that cartoon character trying to plug the holes in a ship as the water is spraying through.

00:14:42.000 Dude, I don't know if Trump is going to win.

00:14:45.000 The votes are in Joe Biden's favor, but the normal process is legal challenges, and Trump has them.

00:14:50.000 So at the very least, you don't say Trump can't win.

00:14:53.000 Well, it's starting to change though.

00:14:55.000 Vox.com published an article saying, Um, well, it's not likely, but Trump could win these ways.

00:15:02.000 And then they list out like three different ways Trump could actually win through a normal legal process, not a coup.

00:15:08.000 Right.

00:15:09.000 I can't remember any time in my lifetime that the state legislatures have slated electors that didn't reflect the will of the people in their state.

00:15:18.000 Has that happened?

00:15:20.000 I mean, if we go back to the 1800s, there's weird elections.

00:15:25.000 Yeah.

00:15:25.000 Like we talked about a little bit the other day.

00:15:27.000 So there's a really weird election where it was tied in the electoral college.

00:15:30.000 So they just appointed a council of Democrats, Republicans, judges and lawyers or whatever to just like convene and decide who the president would be.

00:15:37.000 Like a Pope thing.

00:15:38.000 And that's what they did.

00:15:39.000 And that's what they did.

00:15:40.000 And they were like, all right, well, uh, here, we agree.

00:15:42.000 And actually it, the concession, I believe this ended, um, the reconstruction era because basically there was, they were on, they felt like they were on the verge of another civil war.

00:15:51.000 So they said, okay, okay.

00:15:52.000 How about the presidency goes to the Republican, but we'll give you a bunch of stuff.

00:15:57.000 And they said, fine.

00:15:58.000 And then that ended reconstruction, created a Democrat stronghold in the South for generations to come. 0.70

00:16:05.000 And then that like is ultimately what resolved this.

00:16:08.000 Right.

00:16:08.000 The interesting thing is, apparently, there's like an article, an article that says, you know, a Trump, a deal

00:16:13.000 with Trump to leave the White House.

00:16:14.000 Trump don't care.

00:16:16.000 You don't want it.

00:16:16.000 Yeah.

00:16:17.000 Like, uh, there there's rumors that there, you know, you'll be a king maker.

00:16:22.000 You can run packs.

00:16:23.000 You can do all these things once you leave.

00:16:25.000 And Trump's like, no, right.

00:16:26.000 I'm president.

00:16:27.000 Right.

00:16:28.000 And do you, do you think Tim truly that even if it goes all the way through all the courts and everything, and maybe it

00:16:35.000 even gets to the point where like a decision could be made by the Supreme court that would affect the

00:16:41.000 outcome and it still doesn't fall his way.

00:16:43.000 You think that when there's everything is exhausted, what's he going to do?

00:16:48.000 Trump?

00:16:48.000 Yeah.

00:16:49.000 I don't know.

00:16:50.000 I do.

00:16:51.000 He'll bow out.

00:16:52.000 I don't know.

00:16:53.000 He's too good of a person to screw things up like that, I think.

00:16:56.000 I don't know.

00:16:57.000 I agree.

00:16:58.000 I don't think that he will stay on an extra judicious way.

00:17:02.000 I don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

00:17:04.000 Illegally.

00:17:04.000 Yeah.

00:17:05.000 There's an article from the Washington Post that says there's a massive behind-the-scenes effort to stop Trump right now.

00:17:11.000 As if we didn't know that, like, they've been doing this for years.

00:17:15.000 Right.

00:17:16.000 The massive behind-the-scenes effort to stop Trump at every cost.

00:17:18.000 Now they're saying it was, I think Brennan said, Mike Pence must invoke Article Amendment 25 and remove Trump before he does something.

00:17:26.000 Right.

00:17:26.000 All the way through.

00:17:27.000 Oh, please do!

00:17:27.000 Right, but they're worried Don jr. Tweeted declassify at all. So please do I

00:17:32.000 Right, right, right and they're freaking out because they've been trying to stop him at all costs. So here's the

00:17:38.000 question You look at Russia gate you look at Obama gate and you look

00:17:41.000 at these like this very clear and terrifying Instances the evidence that's come out so far. I wouldn't

00:17:47.000 say it's definitive proof like of a massive criminal conspiracy

00:17:51.000 But it's circumstantial evidence that we need probably a special prosecutor and a hard investigation

00:17:55.000 maybe, what was it, $27 million or whatever, to go through it.

00:17:59.000 You have these notes from the FBI saying, what's our goal?

00:18:00.000 To get Flynn fired or prosecuted.

00:18:02.000 You have the notes where they're talking about, you know, Joe Biden mentioning the Logan Act.

00:18:08.000 They're doing what they're doing right now.

00:18:09.000 What Biden is doing right now is a violation of the Logan Act.

00:18:11.000 Indeed.

00:18:12.000 Joe Biden is contacting foreign governments saying he's the president and the election's not even over yet.

00:18:16.000 Why?

00:18:16.000 We haven't even got a certification and he's calling foreign governments.

00:18:19.000 Okay.

00:18:20.000 Two things.

00:18:20.000 One, I've been seeing that clip from the debates where Wallace asked them both point blank, will you concede once the election has been certified?

00:18:29.000 Trump gives a long rambling answer, but in the middle he goes 100%.

00:18:33.000 But then he goes into this whole thing about dispute, anticipating this.

00:18:36.000 And at the very end, Wallace asked Biden the very same question, and Biden goes, absolutely.

00:18:43.000 That question was more like, will you wait to claim the presidency or whatever until certification is done?

00:18:48.000 And he said yes, and he's clearly not doing that now.

00:18:50.000 He's not.

00:18:51.000 The fact that he's putting together a transition team, the fact that he said he doesn't need approval from the government to do what he's doing, they went after Michael Flynn for the Logan Act.

00:18:59.000 Well, they ultimately got him on lying.

00:19:01.000 But hold on, let's back up.

00:19:02.000 Earlier when we were off the air, you were mentioning the fact that Trump has instructed his, you know, cabinet chiefs and folks to prepare the budgets as if he's going to be president.

00:19:12.000 Yeah.

00:19:12.000 That's the same thing as Biden off opening the office of the president elect.

00:19:16.000 They're just both now.

00:19:18.000 They're both moving forward as if they're going to be the victors.

00:19:21.000 Yeah.

00:19:22.000 The difference is Trump is within his legal right to tell them, prepare your budgets for this coming season.

00:19:29.000 Arguably by their own standard, they argued Michael Flynn should not have been contacting Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, before Trump was inaugurated.

00:19:38.000 He was only acting national security advisor.

00:19:42.000 Therefore, for Joe Biden right now to be contacting foreign leaders and discussing, I guess what he did was he contacted the UK and said, don't screw up a peace deal with Ireland or something like that over Brexit.

00:19:52.000 Because now, I guess Ireland wants to go EU, something like that's going on.

00:19:56.000 And I'm immediately seeing people tweet out like, Biden just violated the Logan Act.

00:20:00.000 Lock him up.

00:20:01.000 I feel like they bring up the Logan Act every time there's a transition like this.

00:20:05.000 And it's ridiculous because it's not really a violation.

00:20:08.000 We expect the president-elect and his administration to start preparing for, you know, entering office. 0.78

00:20:13.000 But they went after Trump in this way.

00:20:15.000 So anyway, I bring this up because if we're talking about a, I don't know what you'd call it, a conspiracy?

00:20:22.000 You know, since the beginning of the Trump administration to sabotage his administration and his presidency.

00:20:29.000 And now they're actively trying to do it again.

00:20:31.000 At what point do, like, here's the conundrum.

00:20:34.000 You look at the information we have available to us.

00:20:37.000 If you only read or watch mainstream news, then you believe everything's been fine.

00:20:42.000 Russiagate was fine. 0.83

00:20:43.000 It's too bad for Trump.

00:20:44.000 Oopsie.

00:20:46.000 And then, you know, Joe Biden wins the presidency.

00:20:49.000 But if you are paying attention to the bigger picture and you know about the Obamagate allegations and the evidence that's been released, and you can see that these people have been engaging in malicious activities for quite some time, at what point do you say what they are doing, what they are doing is the coup and not Trump?

00:21:04.000 Well, exactly.

00:21:05.000 And if you watch the plot against the president, a fantastic movie directed by Amanda Milius, a former Trump political appointee, daughter of John Milius, the director of Apocalypse Now, Red Dawn and a few others.

00:21:22.000 She laid out a very compelling story showing how the Democrats have been screwing with Trump this whole time, all the lies, all the plotting, all the scheming, all everything.

00:21:30.000 And if you see that and you watch it, and it's all based on documents that were submitted to Congress, right?

00:21:36.000 And testimony from people in Congress.

00:21:38.000 If you watch that, then there's absolutely no surprise to see or think if someone says, hey, do you think the Democrats might try to screw Trump?

00:21:45.000 Try to screw with the election.

00:21:46.000 It makes perfect sense.

00:21:47.000 But if you've never heard of any of that stuff.

00:21:50.000 So we've been in, uh, yeah, if, if, if, if that's true and I, would you be, would you say it's true?

00:21:57.000 There was a plot against the president.

00:21:58.000 Absolutely.

00:21:59.000 Then we have been in an information civil war since Trump got elected probably a little bit before.

00:22:05.000 What about Nixon?

00:22:06.000 I was, he was spying on people in the Watergate hotel with his political opponent.

00:22:10.000 I don't know the specifics, but this is, this is so different.

00:22:13.000 We're talking about.

00:22:13.000 It's so different.

00:22:14.000 Information war?

00:22:15.000 Yeah, we're talking about the media lying non-stop.

00:22:18.000 Oh, this is the next level, yeah.

00:22:20.000 Non-stop to convince people that it's Trump who did these things, but they've been disproven.

00:22:26.000 None of this stuff has actually stuck to the president.

00:22:29.000 And social media is suppressing, in some cases, the advert.

00:22:34.000 Oh yes, like social media just banned People's Pundit and his wife.

00:22:37.000 That's incredible.

00:22:40.000 The fact that they're putting, it was Mark Levin, He tweeted, the electors are chosen by the state legislators who can choose Trump, and they flagged it as disputed.

00:22:51.000 That Twitter does not care about this country.

00:22:55.000 And it's really creepy when you have someone like Jack Dorsey say to me, he said, we are working for rules for a global audience.

00:23:03.000 Yeah, well, guess what, buddy?

00:23:04.000 We're an American country.

00:23:06.000 I understand that you have a global audience in the United States.

00:23:09.000 Your rules need to function as per how the United States operates in our norms.

00:23:14.000 They put out... I get emails all the time, you know, you have violated the law in, what is it, Pakistan or whatever?

00:23:19.000 You ever get one of those?

00:23:19.000 Yeah, all the time.

00:23:20.000 Yeah.

00:23:22.000 So they're not adopting, you know, to their laws there, but they should be adopting ones here.

00:23:26.000 They're American based, American Not even laws. 0.93

00:23:28.000 Standards.

00:23:29.000 Free speech.

00:23:29.000 but just standards, free speech and accurately reflecting our legal realities. Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:35.000 Tim, I've been talking about the info war that we've been in for years now. And it's, you know,

00:23:39.000 every time I have somebody on the podcast, we dig through it. We talk about the evidence that's

00:23:44.000 there, how it impacts us, how to counteract it. It's everywhere.

00:23:48.000 And so when they've been talking about color revolutions, they've been talking, people have been talking about this, the slow motion train wreck that's been happening over years.

00:23:56.000 And they've been building up to this.

00:23:57.000 I wonder, I was thinking just recently, you remember how there was a wave of leftist talking heads going out into the media going, Trump will never leave the White House.

00:24:08.000 Trump will never leave the White House.

00:24:09.000 It was like all of a sudden, they all start talking about this is a while back.

00:24:12.000 It was like months and months and months ago, like Bill Maher and Andrew Sullivan, Michael Moore, you know, they must have gotten a memo in their little private circles to start talking about that because they want to start casting doubt over this whole process.

00:24:24.000 If they're going to try to, if they, if there's any thought to trying to steal the election, then what do you do in the beginning?

00:24:29.000 You already discredit what a rational person would do In the event of an actual, you know, coup, what would a rational person do?

00:24:37.000 I refuse to accept these results if they're tainted.

00:24:39.000 And so they already sort of like took away what the rational person's response would be in advance.

00:24:45.000 That's narrative battle.

00:24:46.000 That's information war. 0.75

00:24:47.000 So we're already thinking that that's a bad thing, but he might be doing the right thing when he does it.

00:24:52.000 And they say, we told you this would happen.

00:24:54.000 You see what he's doing?

00:24:55.000 Exactly.

00:24:55.000 So here's the thing.

00:24:57.000 Newsweek ran an article in July saying that Trump would lose.

00:25:01.000 He would claim voter fraud.

00:25:03.000 freeze up the certification process and then the the supreme court would kick it to house

00:25:08.000 delegations to to vote each state gets one vote there are more republican states than democrat

00:25:12.000 trump wins but what they do is solid plan if right now there was evidence of fraud and there's quite

00:25:19.000 a bit is it widespread i i don't think so will it change the outcome we have well we have to we have

00:25:24.000 to see it has to go to court has to be investigated right now the way to describe it is we're seeing

00:25:28.000 smoke and we're seeing smoke billowing and i'm going i'm like hey uh journalist guy you see that

00:25:35.000 And they're like, there's no smoke!

00:25:37.000 What are you talking about?

00:25:39.000 It's right there.

00:25:40.000 There's no smoke.

00:25:41.000 Clearly, you're wrong.

00:25:42.000 There's clearly no fire.

00:25:44.000 That's what they keep doing.

00:25:45.000 No evidence.

00:25:46.000 No matter how many, how many affidavits we get, they say there's no evidence.

00:25:50.000 But just real quick, the point is, Right now, are they expecting Trump to come out with a literal ballot and be like, look, I found evidence?

00:25:59.000 No, what happens is you have a witness say, I witnessed fraud.

00:26:03.000 Now we investigate to find hard evidence.

00:26:06.000 Indeed.

00:26:07.000 And it's happening.

00:26:08.000 The investigation is underway.

00:26:10.000 I interviewed a gentleman, Matt Brainerd, yesterday.

00:26:12.000 He's a former data chief for Trump for President, worked on the campaign in 2016, had a bunch of guys working with him right now that worked on the campaign.

00:26:20.000 And what they've done is they've bought data from all of the relevant electoral districts.

00:26:26.000 And they're checking against change of address databases, death databases, requested but not returned, absentee ballots, etc.

00:26:36.000 And they have found through buying this data and augmenting it and running their analysis, they have found 2 million potential incidences.

00:26:43.000 That would fall under these categories.

00:26:44.000 Not that they're fraud, but just like, this is their high risk category.

00:26:48.000 And now they have, they've farmed out call centers to call all 2 million people.

00:26:54.000 And they're, and yeah, they've raised a half a million dollars to do this.

00:26:57.000 And they're calling all 2 million people who are tagged in this to verify their vote.

00:27:02.000 And if they and they have already found people who said like, yeah, no, I didn't request

00:27:08.000 that ballot and no, I didn't vote in it or whatever.

00:27:11.000 And they are now then they get funneled off to being helped filing.

00:27:15.000 At first was affidavits, but now declarations.

00:27:17.000 Whoa.

00:27:18.000 Yeah.

00:27:19.000 So Matt Brainerd, check it out.

00:27:20.000 I did an interview with him yesterday.

00:27:23.000 It's on my YouTube channel, Jack Murphy Live.

00:27:25.000 Check it out and donate some money if you would like.

00:27:28.000 And that is a really powerful thing that they're doing.

00:27:30.000 And one thing that you had said earlier about, you know, they say it's not widespread.

00:27:34.000 Well, first, I heard a funny joke that the new the new peaceful protest is the fraud isn't widespread.

00:27:42.000 No widespread fraud.

00:27:43.000 But it doesn't matter to be widespread.

00:27:43.000 Right, right, right.

00:27:45.000 We were talking about this earlier.

00:27:46.000 This is what you guys missed while YouTube was down.

00:27:49.000 We're talking about saying widespread fraud is like talking about the popular vote.

00:27:53.000 It doesn't matter.

00:27:54.000 The Electoral College is a targeted contest, and so your cheating would be thus done in a targeted fashion in the key areas.

00:28:05.000 Otherwise, you set off flags all over the place.

00:28:09.000 It's hard to accept that there could be a conspiracy of people determined to overthrow the will of the American people, etc., etc.

00:28:19.000 It's hard to swallow.

00:28:20.000 It's possible.

00:28:21.000 All I know is for sure is I want this process to play out.

00:28:25.000 What I see is smoke.

00:28:26.000 And then I see a CIA computer program that's built to set fire.

00:28:31.000 And that drives me nuts because I can't prove that hammer and scorecard are being used to flip boats all around the country, but there are people testifying that they are.

00:28:39.000 No, I don't think anyone's testified to that.

00:28:41.000 What's her name?

00:28:42.000 Or maybe not testify is not the right word.

00:28:43.000 Sidney Powell can not testify.

00:28:45.000 They're starting to make statements that this software, maybe they say it could be... You're looking in the wrong direction.

00:28:51.000 They're tricking you.

00:28:52.000 They are getting you to fall into their trap by talking about things you cannot prove.

00:28:57.000 I can't prove it.

00:28:58.000 We can prove that in Nevada a poll worker said, I saw fraud and I swear under oath.

00:29:03.000 So you think it's a...

00:29:05.000 Red herring is not the right word, but just the wrong thing to focus on.

00:29:08.000 Absolute red herring.

00:29:08.000 Red herring.

00:29:09.000 Well, it might be right.

00:29:10.000 It might not be the wrong.

00:29:11.000 The point is, whenever we, this is the key aspect of the pit trap and conspiracy theories is dangling something sensational that can't be proven so that everyone looks in the wrong direction and they get away with it.

00:29:23.000 I'm going to drill that home to anyone listening.

00:29:25.000 I think that's super important because a lot of people really want to go hard on this.

00:29:30.000 Exactly.

00:29:30.000 It's a trick.

00:29:31.000 They do it all the time.

00:29:32.000 You get these emails from Wikileaks, and it's got this weird language in it. 0.92

00:29:36.000 And someone drops in a bucket of red meat of ridiculous sensationalist claims, and boom!

00:29:42.000 You get a lunatic fringe conspiracy theory about satanic death cults operating, and it throws off what's actually going on.

00:29:49.000 Blackmail networks, criminal enterprise, there's legitimate reality that you could find in these emails, but they trick people into chasing after things you can't prove or verify.

00:29:58.000 So now you've got all these people tweeting at me, Tim, hammer and scorecard!

00:30:02.000 And I'm like, nothing I could ever prove, nothing you could look it up, nothing you could verify.

00:30:06.000 You got one guy who said, a former general, saying it's true.

00:30:10.000 I'll tell you what I am focused on.

00:30:12.000 We've got now, I think, what, three poll workers signing sworn affidavits saying we saw fraud.

00:30:17.000 You've got Donald Trump filing a lawsuit having nothing to do with fraud, arguing that there's impropriety under the 14th Amendment.

00:30:23.000 These are tangible things.

00:30:24.000 You can actually say that happened.

00:30:26.000 What's the Trump 14th Amendment thing?

00:30:28.000 The 14th Amendment is that everyone needs to be treated equally under the law.

00:30:32.000 Simple way to describe it.

00:30:34.000 Under Bush v. Gore, they ruled all votes must be treated equally.

00:30:38.000 But mail-in ballots are completely different from in-person voting.

00:30:42.000 When a person goes to vote in person, they go through an entirely different process.

00:30:47.000 The argument there on the surface is you've created two tracks of unequal voting.

00:30:52.000 There's different security measures.

00:30:53.000 There's different... So if you go in and vote in person and you mess up, too bad.

00:30:58.000 But if you vote by mail and you mess up, they allow you to cure your ballot.

00:31:02.000 That is not equal treatment under the law.

00:31:05.000 Now, initially when it came to absentee ballots, it was for military voters.

00:31:09.000 So this made sense.

00:31:10.000 We made an exception.

00:31:11.000 We got people overseas.

00:31:13.000 We can't bring them back.

00:31:14.000 We're gonna do something.

00:31:15.000 And it's a special exemption that we all agree makes sense.

00:31:17.000 But universal mail-in voting, which specifically would cause an issue in Nevada, for instance, which Trump could use for sure, Is that they just mailed them all out?

00:31:26.000 And it's a swing state.

00:31:27.000 And now you can argue that a person who votes in person chooses to get up and seek out the vote.

00:31:33.000 A mail-in ballot arrives at their house without their choice.

00:31:35.000 Not the same thing.

00:31:36.000 There's a fundamental difference.

00:31:38.000 Just right there.

00:31:39.000 But there's a bunch of other things they're pointing out, too.

00:31:41.000 Within the same citation, Bush v. Gore, they're saying, in this district, they said, you can cure your ballot.

00:31:49.000 We found your ballot was missing an address or signature, so we contact you and say fix it.

00:31:53.000 But in this district, they didn't do that.

00:31:55.000 Therefore, they've created an imbalance and votes being treated unequally.

00:32:00.000 That's Trump's actual lawsuit in Pennsylvania.

00:32:05.000 Michigan, it's broad, but again, the same argument is being made.

00:32:10.000 While all of these people are screaming about conspiracies and fraud and the media saying no fraud, Trump's over here filing lawsuits on process.

00:32:19.000 So that's gonna be the first, and this is what Vox is talking about this, like they're finally now coming out, people in media and leftist media saying, this is a real path for Trump to win.

00:32:29.000 It has nothing to do with these vote tally conspiracies or anomalous numbers.

00:32:34.000 I've talked about Benford's law.

00:32:35.000 I've talked about how the vote totals changed, but you can't prove anything.

00:32:39.000 And they're easily dismissed by saying, typo.

00:32:42.000 You say all of these are typos?

00:32:43.000 Well, yeah, you have 200, you know, million registered voters.

00:32:47.000 We have 150 million votes.

00:32:48.000 You're gonna find, you know, a few hundred instances of typos.

00:32:52.000 Irregularities.

00:32:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:32:54.000 Well, there's gonna be a margin of failure with millions of people trying to tally these votes.

00:32:58.000 Okay, fine.

00:32:59.000 Then let's talk about process and the sworn affidavits and the USPS whistleblower and the weird news coming around there.

00:33:04.000 You bring up hammer and scorecard and vote flipping, you'll never prove it.

00:33:08.000 And you're not going to convince an investigator or a judge or anyone to be like, we need to investigate this for this reason, for hammer and scorecard.

00:33:16.000 But if you go up to them and say, in this Michigan County, 6,000 votes accidentally glitched and went to the Democrats and the Republican, Trump is using that as a pretext for a legal challenge on all of these different machines in Michigan.

00:33:29.000 And they're going to file lawsuits across the board because of it.

00:33:32.000 You've got to start with something you can prove.

00:33:34.000 A glitch happened.

00:33:35.000 We have testimony.

00:33:36.000 Sworn affidavit.

00:33:37.000 It flipped, and a Republican even ended up winning.

00:33:40.000 It was like a commissioner of some sort.

00:33:42.000 He said, I was out.

00:33:43.000 I wasn't going to call for a recount.

00:33:45.000 Then they called him.

00:33:46.000 Actually, he won by a thousand votes.

00:33:47.000 He went, oh, I didn't realize.

00:33:49.000 That right there happened, which is grounds whether the courts agree.

00:33:55.000 Here's what I imagine is going to happen.

00:33:57.000 Trump's going to file the suit at the state level.

00:33:58.000 He's going to say, look at this glitch.

00:34:00.000 I want all of these to be hand counted.

00:34:02.000 The judge will probably say no.

00:34:05.000 Then they'll file in federal court.

00:34:07.000 And then we'll see what the federal circuits say.

00:34:09.000 And we've already seen Alito side with Trump in Pennsylvania.

00:34:13.000 There was a 4-4 ruling, because Amy Coney Barrett wasn't on the Supreme Court at the time, that said, I believe they couldn't decide whether to allow Pennsylvania to extend their mail-in ballot deadline.

00:34:25.000 That right there is a violation of the 14th Amendment.

00:34:29.000 The fact that if you want to vote in person, you can only vote on the 3rd, but if you want to vote by mail, you can mail in your ballot after the fact?

00:34:37.000 That is a special, that is unequal votes.

00:34:40.000 That's messed up because you can see what the vote is, the current vote, and be like, oh, well, since my vote's gonna change things, I'm gonna go vote.

00:34:47.000 Hey, every other 10,000 guys, let's go change the election. 0.64

00:34:50.000 So this is why we have the backdating scandal with the USPS whistleblower, because according to this whistleblower that came out through Veritas, who signed a sworn affidavit, and this story's crazy, when the ballots were being collected after election day, He said he overheard them saying they were backdating them to bypass the fact that these ballots were not applicable.

00:35:11.000 So what ends up happening now is, if that's true, a bunch of the ballots that got counted after Election Day actually were from after the election, which would create a 14th Amendment violation under Bush v. Gore.

00:35:22.000 I'm not a lawyer.

00:35:23.000 This is just the cursory reading I did of their argument.

00:35:26.000 And I asked a lawyer and they said, long shot, but possible.

00:35:30.000 That right there is, did Pennsylvania violate a court order by tabulating ballots without observers?

00:35:36.000 Fact.

00:35:37.000 There were observers in the building, but they weren't granted the access the courts demanded.

00:35:41.000 They counted, according to Giuliani, 450,000 votes when people were being blocked from actually getting within six feet to observe the tabulation.

00:35:53.000 Those votes, according to Giuliani, should be disqualified.

00:35:55.000 And Trump tweeted about this.

00:35:57.000 And this is a very, very serious challenge right now.

00:35:59.000 Because think about it.

00:36:01.000 There's no solution here.

00:36:03.000 There's no good solution.

00:36:04.000 It's my side wins or your side wins.

00:36:06.000 But if a court says you must allow the observers within six feet and you say no and count 450,000 bouts, secrecy envelope pulled off, discarded, you can no longer verify any of those bouts are real.

00:36:19.000 You should also file a class action suit for the people that get those votes disqualified against the people that did that tally improperly.

00:36:25.000 That's a lot of waste of time and civil liberty and energy.

00:36:29.000 I think what your dude was talking about is the first path.

00:36:33.000 Figure out who these votes were from, because this period where they were counting in violation of the court order, those are the names we need to check.

00:36:41.000 Because the accusation is, they were probably fake ballots or something.

00:36:44.000 Okay, well that's easily verifiable.

00:36:45.000 Take the ballots, they're no longer verifiable because a secrecy envelope has been discarded already.

00:36:51.000 Or destroyed or whatever, but you can see the name of the person, contact them and say, did you cast this mail-in ballot?

00:36:57.000 And if we get a decent amount of people saying no, well then you got a serious problem.

00:37:01.000 So, that's step one.

00:37:03.000 I don't know if we'll get to that point, and I'll tell you, there is something really creepy about Democrats suing to block this.

00:37:11.000 The ACLU just filed a lawsuit to stop Trump from challenging these ballots.

00:37:16.000 So think about what that means.

00:37:17.000 That means in the future, a court can order it is a violation of the law to do what you're doing and they can say, too bad.

00:37:25.000 Too bad.

00:37:26.000 We're allowed to do it.

00:37:27.000 No integrity, no election security, we're allowed to do it.

00:37:30.000 This is what ACLU is arguing, basically.

00:37:32.000 The ACLU is arguing that these ballots should count, even though they violated the court order.

00:37:37.000 Right.

00:37:38.000 I haven't seen the full paperwork write-up, but they tweeted... Don't trust a single word you hear from ACLU, man.

00:37:44.000 They lost it years ago.

00:37:47.000 When I got doxxed, And I got fired for what I had written.

00:37:51.000 I was contacted by the DC head of legal for ACLU.

00:37:55.000 He says, I want to take your case.

00:37:57.000 I want to take your case.

00:37:58.000 I want to help you.

00:37:58.000 They violated your first amendment, right?

00:38:01.000 He worked with me for months.

00:38:02.000 We wrote a paper.

00:38:03.000 We did research.

00:38:04.000 We got everything all the way through.

00:38:05.000 He took it to his legal committee.

00:38:07.000 They declined it.

00:38:08.000 He took it to the head committee.

00:38:09.000 They declined it also.

00:38:10.000 And the reason why they declined it, despite the fact the legal director of the ACLU said it was a clear violation of my First Amendment rights, because they didn't want to offend their coalition partners, such as Human Rights Campaign, Black Lives Matter.

00:38:24.000 Exactly.

00:38:24.000 Now, on what you're talking about here, I think one thing that we've learned about how to get at your enemies and how to win, what did they do to Mike Flynn?

00:38:34.000 They didn't get Mike Flynn on any real crimes.

00:38:36.000 What did they get Mike Flynn on?

00:38:37.000 Process crimes.

00:38:39.000 Everybody makes mistakes in process.

00:38:42.000 So, it makes some good sense, actually, to attack the election from a process standpoint.

00:38:48.000 So, it will be interesting to see how that plays out, man.

00:38:52.000 I'm not a lawyer, and the question that I want to have answered, especially after I talked to Matt Brainerd yesterday, is let's say that there are, you know, five people in every important district that come forth with a sworn affidavit saying their vote was, you know, somehow invalidated or fraud or there's something going on there.

00:39:11.000 What then?

00:39:11.000 How many instances do there have to be?

00:39:14.000 And then what is the recourse?

00:39:15.000 You know, what if everybody says, okay, yeah, we swear that we saw this fraud happening.

00:39:19.000 We saw this happening.

00:39:20.000 What do they do?

00:39:20.000 They do a re-vote?

00:39:21.000 No.

00:39:22.000 No.

00:39:23.000 Why not?

00:39:23.000 They have to do it by December 11th.

00:39:26.000 December 11th.

00:39:27.000 December 14th is the Electoral College vote.

00:39:29.000 There you go.

00:39:29.000 Boom.

00:39:30.000 Yeah, so make an amendment when two-thirds of the states ratify it in two or three years.

00:39:35.000 The amendment process in this country, it took a really long time.

00:39:38.000 I think it was the 17th amendment, it was like seven or eight years before they actually fully implemented it, after it was already ratified by all these different states.

00:39:46.000 So if the vote's fraudulent, or we can't do a revote?

00:39:51.000 No.

00:39:51.000 It goes to the House.

00:39:52.000 There's a process for this.

00:39:52.000 Oh, they just decide.

00:39:53.000 It's already been decided in advance.

00:39:55.000 When you enter in the rules of the game, the rules of the game say, in the event of this... House delegations vote.

00:40:02.000 So, there's a bunch of other really weird things about, like, it could potentially go to Kamala Harris.

00:40:08.000 There's one provision.

00:40:09.000 I haven't read enough about it.

00:40:11.000 Dude, okay, I tweeted out a couple years ago, I said very clearly, Kamala Harris will never be president.

00:40:16.000 president-elect or something. I don't know the full details on it, but yeah, maybe Kamala

00:40:20.000 Harris. I don't know.

00:40:21.000 Dude, okay. I tweeted out a couple years ago. I said very clearly, Kamala Harris will never

00:40:27.000 be president.

00:40:28.000 Kamala.

00:40:29.000 I know. I knew you were going to stop me.

00:40:32.000 It's what they said, right?

00:40:33.000 Kamala Harris will never be president.

00:40:37.000 And now that I've said it, it's out there.

00:40:39.000 People screen cap it.

00:40:40.000 Fine.

00:40:40.000 I think about deleting that tweet all the time.

00:40:43.000 And it's like, it's good.

00:40:44.000 It's going to go down.

00:40:45.000 It could go down as the worst take in my entire life.

00:40:50.000 There's no avoiding it ever.

00:40:52.000 Look, truant on a shop at a pressure.

00:40:54.000 No, exactly.

00:40:55.000 Buttercath care.

00:40:56.000 Exactly.

00:40:58.000 I can't.

00:40:59.000 Exactly.

00:41:00.000 We're already seeing people are looking at the election without actual evidence.

00:41:05.000 And they're like, I don't believe this.

00:41:06.000 And I think that's scary.

00:41:07.000 Seeing tweets from like Tariq Nasheed.

00:41:09.000 You see what he's talking about?

00:41:11.000 You know who he is, right?

00:41:11.000 Yeah.

00:41:12.000 He's like, this is a finesse.

00:41:14.000 He's like, I'm not a Trump supporter, but there's no way.

00:41:15.000 Come on.

00:41:16.000 He's like, how could Joe Biden beat Barack Obama's, you know, record by like 10 million or by like 7 million votes or whatever?

00:41:24.000 Oh, it's 8 million now.

00:41:26.000 Joe Biden beat Barack Obama by 8 million votes!

00:41:29.000 So you've got people who love Obama, and they're saying, B.S.

00:41:34.000 No way.

00:41:35.000 No way you beat Obama.

00:41:37.000 I'm not saying Joe Biden couldn't.

00:41:39.000 People hate Trump.

00:41:40.000 I think it makes sense, and I think, right now, this is what Vox said.

00:41:45.000 It's really funny they're starting to write these articles because they're not free.

00:41:49.000 These writers are not free to tell you what's really going on.

00:41:52.000 They're worried about offending their audience.

00:41:53.000 They're worried about what their bosses will say.

00:41:55.000 I got nothing to worry about.

00:41:57.000 I mean, I'm worried about, you know, if we swear too much, an unnecessary de-ranking of content.

00:42:03.000 But I'll talk about all this stuff even if it risks me getting banned or whatever.

00:42:07.000 I don't have to go check with my boss.

00:42:08.000 I can say straight up.

00:42:10.000 There is a slim possibility that Donald Trump pulls this off based on the arguments we're hearing, the amount of states he'd have to flip.

00:42:19.000 But if he gets a 14th Amendment argument to the Supreme Court and it works, it would nullify many mail-in ballots in a ton of states, and that would probably seal the deal.

00:42:27.000 Well, we saw what happened Tuesday night versus Wednesday morning.

00:42:29.000 That would seal the deal, right?

00:42:31.000 Right, exactly.

00:42:32.000 Wow.

00:42:33.000 Landslide, then.

00:42:34.000 Many of these are absentee.

00:42:35.000 The issue is, Will the Supreme Court agree? Now, I don't know. What I do

00:42:42.000 know is that there are three members of the Supreme Court who helped George Bush win in 2000.

00:42:48.000 Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett.

00:42:50.000 And that, when I heard that, I, I, someone super chatted it and I was like, no way.

00:42:55.000 Yep.

00:42:55.000 There's no way Trump appointed two of the Bush lawyers.

00:42:59.000 He did.

00:43:00.000 And then get this, Clarence Thomas, you think he's got a bone to pick with Joe Biden?

00:43:05.000 Oh man, go back to the 90s and watch those videos if you haven't seen it. 0.98

00:43:08.000 Dude, disgusting.

00:43:08.000 Do you see what Clarence Thomas said to Joe Biden in the 90s?

00:43:12.000 I can't repeat what he said.

00:43:13.000 Whoa.

00:43:13.000 He said it was, I'll give you the gist, he said it was a, what did he call it?

00:43:17.000 A high-tech lynching.

00:43:18.000 A high-tech lynching.

00:43:20.000 Cyber lynching, something like that. 0.99

00:43:21.000 For uppity blacks. 1.00

00:43:21.000 Not cyber, yeah. 1.00

00:43:23.000 Yep, because- Who said that to who?

00:43:24.000 Clarence Thomas?

00:43:25.000 Clarence Thomas, when they were accusing him of, what was it, like sexual assault or something?

00:43:28.000 Yep.

00:43:29.000 Harassment.

00:43:31.000 He was nominated for the Supreme Court, and they ran him through the coals, accusing him of being this harasser, and he said it was essentially a lynching to stop uppity blacks. 0.95

00:43:42.000 That's what Clarence Thomas said.

00:43:45.000 And so now there's a meme going around of Clarence Thomas with his eyes glowing, and it says, I've been waiting 30 years for this moment, Joe.

00:43:51.000 Yep.

00:43:51.000 I believe that would impugn the honor of Clarence Thomas though.

00:43:55.000 I think he can rule impartially and set aside.

00:43:57.000 He can rule on the merits.

00:43:59.000 What about Kavanaugh?

00:44:00.000 You don't think he's got a bone to pick, dude?

00:44:01.000 With guess who?

00:44:02.000 Kay Harris.

00:44:03.000 Kamala Harris.

00:44:04.000 She was one of the worst in those hearings. 0.94

00:44:07.000 I watched every second.

00:44:08.000 And he was on the verge of tears.

00:44:09.000 Riveted.

00:44:10.000 I was crying in my house, on my couch, watching him.

00:44:14.000 It was mostly when he started talking about how he couldn't coach his girls, his daughter's basketball team anymore because of all this nonsense.

00:44:22.000 And I had recently just lost my little league with my son, so it really hit home for me.

00:44:26.000 But I'll never forget that moment because that's when I really saw evil, evil.

00:44:31.000 Yeah.

00:44:31.000 And I saw and I saw the language of radical feminism and intersectionality and critical race theory all coming out of the mouths of these senators at a hearing for a Supreme Court justice.

00:44:41.000 And that was the moment that I knew that the culture war that I had been observing for 10 years was not just some crazy tinfoil thing.

00:44:48.000 It had made it all the way into judiciary hearings like confirmation of the of the Supreme Court justice.

00:44:55.000 And it was just terrifying to me.

00:44:57.000 So if anybody remembers how much of a B.

00:45:01.000 K.

00:45:01.000 Harris can be that is Brett Kavanaugh.

00:45:04.000 I think you just need to remember the face that Brett Kavanaugh had made when he was

00:45:07.000 nearly in tears and his wife was was was nearly in tears watching it happen.

00:45:12.000 This is a guy who was already vetted to be on the courts.

00:45:15.000 When he became a federal judge, they vetted him.

00:45:17.000 They were going through it again.

00:45:18.000 They were digging through his yearbook.

00:45:19.000 They were digging through his calendar from high school.

00:45:22.000 You drink beer?

00:45:23.000 What does that mean?

00:45:24.000 And they were berating him and implying on TV that he was part of a group that would line up outside of bedrooms and drug women and take turns, if you know what I mean.

00:45:33.000 And that is insane.

00:45:34.000 The accusations.

00:45:36.000 The people banging on the door, screaming.

00:45:38.000 I gotta be honest.

00:45:39.000 I think after 30 years, maybe Clarence Thomas is like, ah, it's been 30 years.

00:45:43.000 Brett Kavanaugh's like, that was a year and a half ago.

00:45:46.000 Yeah.

00:45:47.000 It was two years ago.

00:45:48.000 I think whatever happens, they're gonna stick to the letter of the law.

00:45:51.000 Like, and if that means that Trump has them on a technicality, I think they'll rule in Trump's favor.

00:45:55.000 Yep.

00:45:55.000 I agree.

00:45:56.000 It's not so much about a technicality.

00:46:01.000 Interestingly, we're seeing the media's desperate attempt to sweep this under the rug.

00:46:05.000 There was a tweet from some journalists saying Trump flat-out admits it or something.

00:46:09.000 And it's a transcript from one of the lawsuits where they were like, the judge asked them point-blank if they were fraud and they said no.

00:46:16.000 And then all these lefties are high-fiving each other.

00:46:18.000 That's an attempt to trick people into thinking Trump's lying.

00:46:21.000 The lawsuit was about improper ballots, not fraud.

00:46:24.000 So the judge said, I'm asking you right now, was there fraud?

00:46:27.000 And the lawyer said, to my knowledge, no.

00:46:29.000 They're trying to make it seem like- The second part of that was confusing because it said, is there impropriety in the voting?

00:46:34.000 And it also said no.

00:46:36.000 Right, because what he's arguing is, these people made a mistake, their ballots don't count.

00:46:43.000 And so the point I'm bringing up is, technicalities, it doesn't matter if it's a technicality, what matters is, the argument from the lawyer was, it's in the legal code, we must adhere to the legal code.

00:46:54.000 You're gonna hear a different opinion from different people as to why it's in the legal code, it doesn't matter, it's in there for a reason.

00:47:00.000 Is he arguing A?

00:47:01.000 No.

00:47:02.000 Is he arguing B?

00:47:03.000 No.

00:47:03.000 And then they stop, but what he was arguing was C.

00:47:06.000 It was also a problem.

00:47:07.000 They just didn't even ask him about if that's what he was doing.

00:47:10.000 No, no, no.

00:47:10.000 You must have missed the page of the transcript.

00:47:11.000 He says it.

00:47:12.000 He says it's in the code.

00:47:14.000 I did miss the page, yeah.

00:47:14.000 He says it's in the code, and for whatever reason, we can speculate, it's in the code.

00:47:20.000 He basically said, you can ask me why it's there, you can ask me why I think this violation warrants a disqualification, and it's irrelevant.

00:47:28.000 The law says, without this, disqualified.

00:47:31.000 And he's correct.

00:47:32.000 It's not up to us to determine the intent.

00:47:37.000 It's like, here's the law.

00:47:39.000 Here's what it says about the ballots and how they're supposed to be processed.

00:47:42.000 If you don't do it, the ballot doesn't count as a ballot.

00:47:43.000 So fraud's a specific legal term.

00:47:45.000 Oh yeah, fraud is deception.

00:47:47.000 We're talking about people who didn't put their addresses on the ballots. 0.99

00:47:53.000 So the ballots are trash.

00:47:54.000 Okay, yeah, that's what that particular case is about. 0.89

00:47:56.000 Where I'm at is plug in a couple holes of the dam.

00:48:00.000 I think that's what side I'm on in the metaphor, but I'm not going to stand there and get blasted by a rush of water.

00:48:05.000 If it looks like it's not going to work, I'm not going to keep screaming to make sure Biden fails and that we got to go after hammer and screw.

00:48:12.000 We got to find.

00:48:13.000 I'm just going to say if it doesn't work, I'm bowing out and I'm focusing on the solution for the next election, which I think is online.

00:48:19.000 There won't be a next election.

00:48:20.000 Oh, there'll be another election.

00:48:21.000 But, listen.

00:48:23.000 If... If they can legally violate a court... If they can violate a court order and get away with it, you think someone's gonna be able to win legitimately next time?

00:48:31.000 If... If they... If... Yeah, yeah.

00:48:34.000 Well, legitimate's a loaded term right now.

00:48:34.000 How?

00:48:37.000 They violated a court order.

00:48:38.000 Firstly, that is a big if.

00:48:40.000 If they pull off some nonsense, that's a big problem.

00:48:44.000 So right now, Let's say that Trump goes to court and says, they violated the court order and counted these ballots, and now because they've already been removed from the envelopes, we can't reverse the process and observe.

00:48:56.000 So you think if the letter, if the law is upheld right now, that Trump will win?

00:49:03.000 I don't know.

00:49:04.000 Like, are you saying that if- From what you see of the situation- You're saying that the court order- Yeah, from what you see of- If the court agrees with Trump.

00:49:09.000 So here's the problem.

00:49:11.000 First of all, assuming it's true they counted 450,000 ballots.

00:49:14.000 That's the statement from the legal team.

00:49:16.000 Just because they filed a lawsuit doesn't mean that's what happened.

00:49:18.000 Assuming that's the case, we do know what's true is they counted without observers being able to watch within the distance the court said.

00:49:26.000 That's confirmed.

00:49:27.000 Because there's videos of people there with binoculars saying they won't let us pass this barricade and they're a hundred feet from us.

00:49:33.000 The court said six.

00:49:34.000 We don't know what the number is.

00:49:37.000 Here's the problem.

00:49:38.000 If the court says, we don't care they violated the court order, these ballots are good, you incentivize legit fraud.

00:49:46.000 Because now everyone's like, we could shuffle in a bunch of boxes and count them, and they won't do anything about it?

00:49:52.000 Done.

00:49:53.000 If they do stop it, there's also a problem.

00:49:55.000 If they say these ballots are spoiled, then you could create a situation where you trick people into destroying ballots on accident.

00:50:02.000 How would you do that?

00:50:03.000 So, you get people to open the ballots without an observer, then you file a suit saying, you see what I mean?

00:50:10.000 That one's more circuitous.

00:50:12.000 So ultimately I err on the side of, if the ballots were counted in violation of a court order, you can't count them.

00:50:20.000 You can't.

00:50:21.000 We have a security process and a legal observation process, a public observation process for a reason.

00:50:27.000 Individuals can walk in and watch because we want to make sure there's integrity and we're being honest.

00:50:33.000 If somebody is doing something in secret when it's supposed to be for the public, the public has a right to know what they're doing with our resources.

00:50:40.000 We have FOIA, right?

00:50:41.000 The Freedom of Information Act.

00:50:43.000 We can request the government give us documents on things, and then they argue why they should or shouldn't, and then they redact stuff, and then they give it out.

00:50:49.000 When it comes to our elections, we need to know that we can watch publicly.

00:50:52.000 That's what I was suggesting earlier.

00:50:54.000 Maybe the vote tallies appear online.

00:50:56.000 The only problem with that is you need an internet connection on these machines and that could be, you know, problematic.

00:51:00.000 But I think a lot of the data was published online in increments from various outlets.

00:51:05.000 Ultimately, what I'm saying is, we wouldn't need observers if as soon as someone put the ballot in, it appeared.

00:51:12.000 Like, here's the vote, here's the person, here's what it's for.

00:51:12.000 Boom!

00:51:15.000 The problem is, Ballots are secret, you know, for a reason.

00:51:19.000 People wouldn't vote for Trump if ballots were public.

00:51:21.000 They'd be terrified.

00:51:22.000 Everyone would find out, so they won't do it.

00:51:24.000 It'd be nice if you didn't see what the vote was for, but all the information was public, like the social security number was public.

00:51:30.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:51:31.000 Everyone's social security's public.

00:51:33.000 It's like just your dog tag.

00:51:35.000 It doesn't matter if people know what your number is.

00:51:37.000 You know LifeLock?

00:51:38.000 Yeah, like identity theft.

00:51:40.000 He did that commercial where he had a truck driving with his social security number on it, and he was like, I'm safe.

00:51:44.000 And then he got his identity stolen like 14 times.

00:51:46.000 Because you're not.

00:51:47.000 You can't publish social security.

00:51:48.000 No one is going to be able to keep their social security number secret in this world.

00:51:51.000 It's too easy to get.

00:51:52.000 We might as well just use them.

00:51:54.000 Or build a new type of number that we can use for that.

00:51:57.000 Some criminals can figure out your social security number, so we might as well publish everyone's information.

00:52:00.000 Well, we've got to use a personal ID code.

00:52:03.000 Along with a barcode that shows who you voted for and only you can scan that barcode.

00:52:07.000 Or we just redact everything but who the vote was for.

00:52:09.000 Ian actually makes a good point here in that all information will become known eventually.

00:52:16.000 Like our network, the whole way that our society is going, all information is going to end up being public, right?

00:52:24.000 You can't rely on anonymity.

00:52:27.000 You can't rely on things being said in secret.

00:52:30.000 You know, if you're secure enough now, you should start preparing yourself for the idea that all information is going to be publicly known.

00:52:37.000 They may not be now, but it's coming.

00:52:39.000 Use a password manager.

00:52:40.000 Bitwarden is a good one.

00:52:43.000 It's, it's open source software and it's keeps your encrypted password.

00:52:47.000 You need a master password to log into it.

00:52:49.000 It's better than keeping your passwords on like your browser.

00:52:52.000 Let's kick this conversation up to the next level.

00:52:54.000 Trump fires defense secretary in post-election reckoning after policy splits.

00:52:54.000 Oh my God.

00:52:54.000 Here we go.

00:52:59.000 He didn't just get rid of Defense Secretary Mark Esper, he got rid of like the top brass of the Pentagon.

00:53:04.000 Yeah.

00:53:04.000 And you know what the, you know what these leftists are saying and journalists are saying?

00:53:08.000 This is him stacking the deck with loyalists as he plans a coup.

00:53:14.000 And I gotta say, I don't know why Trump would fire these people a few months before he's supposed to vacate,

00:53:19.000 assuming he loses.

00:53:20.000 Maybe he's just operating assuming he's going to win, but the rumor was he was going to fire them after he got reelected.

00:53:26.000 He's doing it during what may end up being a lame duck session, which makes me wonder about what might happen and why he needs to get rid of people who may be, you know, he may have issues with.

00:53:38.000 I'm not ready to go there, but I will admit that in reading about the terminations and about some of the personnel placement that's been put over at the Pentagon in varying positions of power, chief of staff, some others, knowing that there's some real hardcore Trump loyalists being placed over at Defense Department.

00:53:58.000 It did make me wonder just why.

00:54:01.000 Now, one of the first questions I come to mind is like, is there any precedent?

00:54:05.000 Has an outgoing president had a change of house and leadership at the end of the term?

00:54:11.000 Maybe there's some reason for it.

00:54:13.000 I don't know.

00:54:13.000 I bet there's a reason.

00:54:15.000 But just thinking about some of the people who were placed over there and it just makes you wonder.

00:54:22.000 Who did he place?

00:54:23.000 He placed Kash Patel.

00:54:24.000 Who's that?

00:54:25.000 Kash Patel worked with Devin Nunes during the Russiagate phenomenon, you know, scandal.

00:54:32.000 And he was present in the House hearings, I believe, and was there.

00:54:37.000 And witness the evidence in the testimony that was presented and all the guys coming in and they all said to him, you know, to the hearing that there's no evidence of any collusion or whatever.

00:54:47.000 And then he, you know, was part of sort of the whistleblowing process and the Nunes memo that came out and all of that.

00:54:53.000 And so.

00:54:54.000 He definitely been putting in a lot of hard work on behalf of the Republic.

00:54:58.000 Let's not forget.

00:54:59.000 This is not it's not like a Trump loyalist that went and did something that was wrong.

00:55:03.000 No, he's unearthing information about wrongdoing done by the Democratic Party.

00:55:07.000 So he's working on behalf of the citizens United States people have voted Donald Trump in office and anyone who respects the rule of law in America.

00:55:15.000 That said, he's a proven, you know, Trump loyalist, and he's been placed over a chief of staff of some high up office at the Defense Department.

00:55:22.000 Now, I have no idea why, and I know there's people in my network that are probably mad that I'm talking about this.

00:55:27.000 I don't know.

00:55:28.000 I have questions.

00:55:29.000 It's publicly available information.

00:55:31.000 It's not like I'm revealing anything.

00:55:32.000 But you do have to wonder why.

00:55:35.000 I'm going to go with that there's a real normal procedural issue around this.

00:55:39.000 I got some questions about the Pentagon.

00:55:42.000 So are they in control of the FBI and the CIA?

00:55:45.000 That's the Department of Justice.

00:55:46.000 Yeah, it's the Department of Defense.

00:55:49.000 I think that he was upset with the way that the Pentagon handled this voting thing and believes that there's all sorts of impropriety and fraud.

00:55:57.000 This is the Department of Defense.

00:55:58.000 This is like Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran. 0.98

00:56:00.000 Yeah.

00:56:01.000 Okay, so maybe I'm wrong.

00:56:02.000 So the DOJ is handling the vote fraud stuff and the top DOJ guy resigned when Bill Barr issued a memo on investigating vote fraud claims.

00:56:11.000 So, the Pentagon is defense.

00:56:14.000 So now they're saying, like, Trump is gonna make a move in Iran or something like that.

00:56:17.000 I don't know what he's doing.

00:56:19.000 But, uh... There's no way he would do that.

00:56:21.000 Does it sound like counting heads?

00:56:23.000 Counting heads for what?

00:56:24.000 Like, who's with me, who's not?

00:56:25.000 Yeah, so in a civil war or a coup... Oh, geez, yeah, he wants the Department of Defense on his side.

00:56:31.000 Before the civil war breaks out, the top leaders of each faction start counting heads.

00:56:37.000 Which departments do I have?

00:56:39.000 Matt Taibbi wrote about this in October.

00:56:41.000 The counting heads phase is when you've got the commander general or whatever who's like, I'm gonna take over, and you got the president, and they start calculating, what do I have?

00:56:52.000 I have the Department of Defense, I have the chief of police, I don't have the FBI, to figure out where their loyalists are and what assets they have in the event of a coup, civil war, whatever.

00:57:02.000 But also you said he was going to fire these people anyway.

00:57:05.000 The rumor was, once he got reelected, he was going to fire Gina Haspel, Chris Wray of the FBI.

00:57:11.000 What was Haspel?

00:57:13.000 She was NSA?

00:57:14.000 I don't recall.

00:57:15.000 I know that Christopher Wray has to go, though.

00:57:17.000 Yeah, he was the FBI.

00:57:17.000 And then Esper, he was the Defense Secretary, was he?

00:57:20.000 Christopher Wray is the one who's got his head up his own butt about white supremacy being the most dangerous domestic threat that we face. 0.97

00:57:20.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:57:28.000 Like, get out of town, buddy.

00:57:29.000 It's climate change, isn't it?

00:57:29.000 Yeah, right.

00:57:31.000 I'm just kidding.

00:57:32.000 Isn't it a giant asteroid?

00:57:33.000 Pajama man.

00:57:34.000 Haspel is CIA.

00:57:36.000 She was the head of the CIA.

00:57:37.000 So he's just got rid of these people anyway before it becomes official, if it does, that Biden is president-elect.

00:57:42.000 He doesn't want to do it after that because it's going to look really shady.

00:57:45.000 So I think he's just getting it out of the way.

00:57:48.000 What do you mean?

00:57:49.000 If Donald Trump lost, then his only opportunity is to do it right now.

00:57:54.000 I'm sorry.

00:57:55.000 If Donald Trump loses the election, the results are in for Biden.

00:57:59.000 If Donald Trump doesn't get certified the winner, his only opportunity to remove Haspel, Esper, and Wray is right now.

00:58:05.000 Before January 4th.

00:58:07.000 Well, I guess, okay, he could wait until January 4th, I suppose.

00:58:09.000 Yeah, and he would look like a criminal if he was doing it after the vote tally was already in Biden's favor.

00:58:14.000 Oh, I see, I see, I see.

00:58:15.000 You mean after January 14th.

00:58:16.000 I mean, I'm sorry, December 14th.

00:58:17.000 December 14th, yeah.

00:58:18.000 After the certification process.

00:58:19.000 So just get it out of the way, is what it seems like.

00:58:21.000 But then, what, they could rehire him if they want?

00:58:21.000 Maybe.

00:58:23.000 And they will.

00:58:23.000 I know.

00:58:24.000 They would.

00:58:25.000 But Trump replaced them with loyalists.

00:58:28.000 So that's a different question. 0.87

00:58:29.000 Dude, because Trump's a megalomaniac.

00:58:32.000 What Trump's problem is, the biggest number one problem, aside from whatever his personality issues may be, is his personnel and hiring decisions.

00:58:40.000 Number one problem.

00:58:42.000 John Bolton!

00:58:43.000 What was he thinking?

00:58:44.000 No, I'm not even talking about that.

00:58:45.000 I'm talking about the thousands of political appointees, the staffers here and there and there, and just the people who are in the White House or in West Wing who are like MAGA for real, like who are down with the cause and volunteered on the campaign and part of the network that launched Trump into power.

00:59:01.000 They are you can like count them on a short list and they are Isolated and they've been fighting and battling the bureaucracy and they call it the deep state same thing People that didn't want to see their agenda get pushed through whether they're leftover Democrats or GOP Establishment people or just milquetoast conservatives that weren't ready for right, you know Right-side revolution that Trump represented and he's been fighting that all along number one criticism.

00:59:26.000 Everybody's made it of him is the personnel There's no question about it And uh, you know, if only he would have just fired people that he didn't think were doing what he wanted a long time ago.

00:59:34.000 And just put the right people in a place for him to jump and stood up for Flynn and all.

00:59:40.000 He was jammed up in the beginning though.

00:59:42.000 With Russiagate.

00:59:43.000 He couldn't fire half these people.

00:59:45.000 And I wonder, you know...

00:59:47.000 Yeah.

00:59:47.000 Right.

00:59:48.000 Who we would have hired, who we would have fired.

00:59:48.000 Indeed.

00:59:48.000 Right.

00:59:48.000 Yep.

00:59:50.000 I certainly think he would have fired Comey and a bunch of people immediately.

00:59:53.000 But they, they argued that would have been obstruction of justice.

00:59:56.000 And then when he did, they launched the investigation against

00:59:58.000 him to stop him from doing this.

00:59:59.000 The Russiagate stuff was looming before we had a special prosecutor.

01:00:02.000 Then they retaliated because it was, he fired Comey and that

01:00:02.000 Right.

01:00:05.000 sparked the start of it, right?

01:00:07.000 Yeah, sure.

01:00:08.000 Then Comey was like, I remember Trump said this and I wrote it down.

01:00:11.000 And it's like, that's not proof.

01:00:12.000 He said it like, that's crazy.

01:00:13.000 I just wrote it down.

01:00:16.000 But you know, I hate to say it, but you kind of have to hand it to the Democrats, man.

01:00:21.000 They have run, I mean, a really hard campaign.

01:00:25.000 They lost the election.

01:00:26.000 They weren't going to stand for it.

01:00:27.000 They were going to prevent Trump from doing whatever Trump wanted.

01:00:30.000 They've been fighting and fighting and fighting dirty and fighting consistently, and they have not given up, and they're still not giving up, and they're still pushing on.

01:00:38.000 I mean, they have some stamina.

01:00:39.000 There's no question.

01:00:41.000 Well, it's the media.

01:00:42.000 They have the media on their side.

01:00:43.000 They have establishment media saying everything.

01:00:46.000 I mean, even Daily Mail, they wrote an article about the 234 pages of testimony and statements from these witnesses.

01:00:55.000 And the way the Daily Mail framed it was remarkable.

01:00:57.000 It was like they took the worst of the accusations and made a joke out of it. 0.65

01:01:03.000 They took the silliest, ignoring the worst.

01:01:06.000 So I'm seeing a bunch of leftists on Twitter do this. 1.00

01:01:08.000 And it's probably because they're dumb and they just want to rile up their base. 0.97

01:01:10.000 But they're saying things like, this guy is arguing that the military shouldn't vote for Biden. 0.99

01:01:15.000 In one statement, the guy says, I saw a military ballot that was for Biden.

01:01:18.000 That struck me as odd. 1.00

01:01:19.000 And they're laughing at him like, what an idiot! 1.00

01:01:21.000 Then you have one where a woman says my son's been dead for eight years but somehow he's listed as voting in the 1.00

01:01:25.000 election twice.

01:01:26.000 They ignore that one.

01:01:28.000 And that's in what the RNC has released or what Trump can't pay or whoever has released in 234 pages.

01:01:33.000 The RNC says they have 11,000 people who have come forward with claims of fraud.

01:01:38.000 Do we just say we ignore 11,000?

01:01:41.000 Or is the RNC lying?

01:01:44.000 What do you do when the second biggest political party in this country says we have 11,000 people coming forward?

01:01:50.000 This is not some random tinfoil hat guy yelling there was fraud in the election.

01:01:54.000 This is literally the second biggest political party in the country saying we have evidence, we have witnesses.

01:01:59.000 You have to honor it.

01:02:01.000 For sure, for sure.

01:02:02.000 But I mean, beyond that, it says something truly terrifying about the direction we're

01:02:05.000 headed.

01:02:06.000 Like, as if the Republicans win this, and it turns out there was fraud and the Democrats

01:02:10.000 cheated, the Democrats are going to be like, oh, you got us.

01:02:12.000 Good game, everybody.

01:02:14.000 We'll play again next time.

01:02:15.000 No, what are they going to do if they get caught and they actually did something?

01:02:18.000 What are the Republicans going to do if it turns out they were lying the whole time and

01:02:22.000 there was no evidence and they're just trying to scam the election?

01:02:25.000 Either outcome is terrifying.

01:02:26.000 Yeah.

01:02:27.000 I mean, look, I do remember seeing a collection of clips from Fox News.

01:02:33.000 I think they were talking about the Stacey Abrams thing a couple years ago.

01:02:38.000 Fox News all saying all the same things today about challenging this and challenging that.

01:02:44.000 Or no, it was like, why are you challenging?

01:02:46.000 Just accept it.

01:02:48.000 Everybody will say whatever they need to say to get their guy in the power.

01:02:52.000 There's no question about it.

01:02:53.000 But if we can go the hard data analytic route with hard evidence, narrow down the mass pool of votes, narrow it down to people that have circumstances that are questionable, Narrow that down, narrow it down, narrow it down, and then you're going to find, you will find instances of fraud and malfeasance.

01:03:12.000 There's no question about it.

01:03:13.000 But we, it's like, we live in a country that's so big now that little instances of violence here and there, when they get put up on social media, it makes it look like there's violence everywhere.

01:03:22.000 It makes it look like all the cities in every state are all burning down to the ground.

01:03:27.000 Makes it look like all the whole city of Minneapolis is burned to the ground, but it's not.

01:03:30.000 Or in D.C.

01:03:30.000 that they're rioting all over the whole city, but they're not.

01:03:32.000 It's a lot, it's frequent, it's damaging, it's bad, but it's not everywhere.

01:03:37.000 So I imagine with this is the same thing, all large numbers here, where like, hey, there's so many people voting.

01:03:43.000 What are we up to, 140 million or something by now?

01:03:45.000 Almost 150.

01:03:45.000 Almost 150 million people.

01:03:47.000 What if like 0.001% of them are screwy?

01:03:50.000 That's still a ton.

01:03:51.000 It's still a ton.

01:03:55.000 It's fewer than that.

01:03:56.000 You can find thousands and thousands of instances, even, I think, probably in any circumstance.

01:04:01.000 It doesn't mean it was okay back then.

01:04:03.000 And it's definitely not okay now.

01:04:05.000 And this is a good chance as any.

01:04:07.000 You know, if the Democrats had any real gumption, or if they were actually dedicated to the United States of America, they would say, well, you know, One good thing is going to come out of Donald Trump.

01:04:19.000 We are going to really once and for all get to the bottom of potential election fraud, election malfeasance.

01:04:24.000 We're going to get this system tightened up and we're not going to let this crap happen again in the future.

01:04:29.000 But they're not saying that. 0.91

01:04:30.000 No, they're saying stop.

01:04:31.000 Don't look.

01:04:32.000 Don't look.

01:04:33.000 That's the worst sign.

01:04:35.000 That is the worst sign that they have absolutely no basis in value.

01:04:40.000 Democrat.

01:04:40.000 Partisanship.

01:04:42.000 Democrats. Prefacing all of this with partisanship. I've said it over and over. This is what I brought

01:04:48.000 up about what Vox was saying. Everything right now is on track for Joe Biden to be certified,

01:04:54.000 inaugurated, all that stuff. These lawsuits have not had any traction to the point where

01:05:00.000 we could say something might change.

01:05:02.000 As it stands now, we all kind of expect it's going to be Joe Biden.

01:05:06.000 That being said, what if, you know, with Trump changing, just for entertaining the conversation, not like I think it's a lottery tickets chance, if at all.

01:05:16.000 What happens if Trump doesn't leave and he gets rid of these, you know, different heads of different departments, puts in loyalists, and then come, you know, the 14th or whatever, he says no?

01:05:28.000 They'll be writing about it for a thousand years.

01:05:30.000 You'll have 77 million leftists or whatever saying Trump is the dictator who's trying to stage a coup.

01:05:38.000 You'll have all the Trump supporters saying, you know, no Trump is stopping them from staging a coup.

01:05:42.000 This is how it goes when there's a civil war or a coup.

01:05:45.000 Both sides accuse each other of being the villain, stealing the power.

01:05:49.000 Yes.

01:05:50.000 You need to dispel partisan politics.

01:05:53.000 And good luck, dude.

01:05:55.000 That's the only way. 0.97

01:05:57.000 This is ridiculous that people want to be in a tribe. 0.93

01:05:59.000 They want to be in a group. 1.00

01:06:00.000 They knew that this was going to happen back when they were writing the damn Constitution, man. 1.00

01:06:04.000 Factions. 1.00

01:06:05.000 Yeah, really.

01:06:05.000 And George Washington would, if he was running for president as the Democrat right now, He would say, let's do the right thing.

01:06:13.000 Let's look at the law and follow the law.

01:06:16.000 Well, he gave up.

01:06:16.000 They want him to be king.

01:06:17.000 And he said, no, right, right.

01:06:19.000 No, we need a legitimate system.

01:06:21.000 Right.

01:06:21.000 I will sacrifice my own good for the system.

01:06:24.000 Some of these presidents very shortly after were, I think Aaron Burr was accused of being an honorless man who was in it only for himself and his own ego.

01:06:34.000 And that's part of what sparked the duel between him and Hamilton, which ultimately killed Hamilton.

01:06:38.000 Was because he was viewed as a narcissist who wanted power.

01:06:40.000 How?

01:06:41.000 I'm just talking about Washington, man.

01:06:42.000 You have to be. 0.85

01:06:43.000 You cannot become elected president unless you are a narcissist drunk with power.

01:06:47.000 I don't think so.

01:06:48.000 George Washington was pretty unique.

01:06:50.000 He might have been a narcissist.

01:06:51.000 It's the first one, bro.

01:06:52.000 It's the first one.

01:06:53.000 Yeah, George, Washington doesn't count because we just finished this revolutionary war and they said, how about you?

01:06:58.000 And he goes, I don't want to be president.

01:06:59.000 Well, we need somebody.

01:07:00.000 You're the general.

01:07:01.000 It's fine.

01:07:02.000 Dude, we put up in my daughter's room a list of all the presidents.

01:07:06.000 There's 45 of them up there and around each of the presidents is a color that represents their political party.

01:07:12.000 All the presidents have a color on their frame.

01:07:15.000 All of them.

01:07:16.000 Except for one.

01:07:18.000 George Washington didn't have a party.

01:07:20.000 You don't need one.

01:07:21.000 You're missing my point.

01:07:23.000 We don't need them anymore.

01:07:25.000 You can't keep referencing it.

01:07:26.000 It's the first one.

01:07:27.000 It's totally different.

01:07:28.000 A unique circumstance that will never be lived ever again.

01:07:30.000 Well, we're in a unique circumstance now with the internet video.

01:07:34.000 One guy can get a hundred million.

01:07:35.000 That's not an argument.

01:07:36.000 What are you saying?

01:07:36.000 You don't need a political party.

01:07:38.000 Dude, you have powerful special interests and you have a machine with billions of dollars you will not get on your own.

01:07:47.000 All they can buy is influence.

01:07:49.000 Even Ross Perot.

01:07:52.000 He did pretty well the first time.

01:07:55.000 He got Bill Clinton along.

01:07:56.000 And he was an old, not-that-charismatic guy.

01:07:58.000 George Bush should have won that.

01:07:59.000 Yeah, if it wasn't for Ross Perot.

01:08:02.000 And then he ran again, I think, at 8%.

01:08:03.000 That was impressive for an independent.

01:08:06.000 But he was a billionaire, wasn't he?

01:08:07.000 Teddy Roosevelt won as a third party.

01:08:08.000 I'm not talking about a third party.

01:08:09.000 I'm talking about no party.

01:08:10.000 You don't need a political party.

01:08:12.000 You just need a few friends to run with you.

01:08:14.000 You don't even need that.

01:08:16.000 Of course.

01:08:17.000 You need a cabinet.

01:08:17.000 to the Republican Party because you need a party to get elected and you need a party, dude, to govern.

01:08:22.000 Of course. And you need a cabinet. And this was Trump's downfall is that he didn't actually have

01:08:28.000 a party when he came to Washington to govern. And he assumed the Republicans had his back.

01:08:33.000 Exactly.

01:08:34.000 So no, there's no way you get in there without having a political party and a machine and apparatus behind you.

01:08:40.000 They did have his back though.

01:08:42.000 You know, they had a knife in his back.

01:08:44.000 They didn't have his back in the way most people assume.

01:08:46.000 And that was, I think, Man, Trump was naive.

01:08:51.000 He went in thinking, these guys, okay, I won.

01:08:53.000 I'm the president now.

01:08:55.000 You know, I was saying this the other day, but I remember I was outside of this building where Trump was meeting with GOP leadership.

01:08:59.000 And we knew back then in DC that it was like a big deal that Trump won and they hated his guts.

01:09:05.000 So he was going to meet with Republican leadership and they were going to talk.

01:09:08.000 And I knew right then, I'm like, I know what's happening.

01:09:10.000 Trump is in it, escalate.

01:09:11.000 He pulls in, he sits down at the table and you had a bunch of Republicans and they go, okay, Trump, now here's how things works.

01:09:17.000 And he goes, no, I'm the president.

01:09:19.000 Here's how things go.

01:09:21.000 I'm telling you.

01:09:22.000 And they were like, uh, It reminds me of, I don't know, have you guys watched the new Rick and Morty episode?

01:09:27.000 No, not the latest, no.

01:09:28.000 Not the latest one, but the one where it's the new citadel of Ricks or whatever.

01:09:33.000 No, no, no, I don't know.

01:09:34.000 It's evil Morty has the election and wins.

01:09:37.000 And then he walks in and all the Ricks are laughing like, you actually think you're in charge because you were elected?

01:09:41.000 And then he goes, how many of you think this way?

01:09:44.000 Raise your hand. 0.98

01:09:45.000 And then he like snaps his finger and they shoot all the unloyal guys. 0.95

01:09:48.000 It reminds me kind of like that, except Trump didn't, you know, kill a bunch of people.

01:09:51.000 But Trump, I'm assuming he walked in, and they said, here's how things work.

01:09:55.000 We're the party.

01:09:57.000 Here's what we want you to do.

01:09:58.000 And Trump was like, no.

01:10:00.000 And he's still saying no.

01:10:01.000 Because you have to imagine, like, there was a story in The Hill, I think I mentioned it, where they said, a deal for Trump to leave the White House.

01:10:08.000 I'm sure he said no.

01:10:09.000 Yeah.

01:10:10.000 I'm the president.

01:10:11.000 He's got a vision, he wants to do something, he ran for a reason and he means it.

01:10:15.000 I think it's hilarious they tried pushing off this narrative that Trump never wanted

01:10:18.000 to win when he filed the paperwork for MAGA in 2012, four years before he ran, and then

01:10:23.000 he filed for re-election the moment he got elected.

01:10:25.000 Yeah, he's been intending to run for a long time.

01:10:28.000 He's been talking about it since the 90s, I think.

01:10:30.000 And he had run at least two times beforehand as well.

01:10:34.000 Yeah, Reform Party though, right?

01:10:35.000 Yeah, which I had always thought were just publicity stunts, whatever, whatever, which is kind of what I thought back on the escalator incident.

01:10:43.000 I kind of thought all this was just a little bit of publicity and he would just kind of go back.

01:10:49.000 This was the time.

01:10:50.000 The wave was there.

01:10:51.000 It wasn't right for him the other times.

01:10:54.000 The world hadn't gotten crazy enough.

01:10:55.000 Things hadn't gotten bad enough.

01:10:57.000 We hadn't been fed up enough yet with the Uniparty to decide which one of these 17 guys up here is going to bust up the establishment.

01:11:07.000 And then they picked Trump to do it.

01:11:09.000 Kanye West could do it.

01:11:10.000 They didn't have Twitter before either, really, and not until 2010.

01:11:14.000 And he hadn't done his TV show until... When did The Apprentice end?

01:11:19.000 When did he leave The Apprentice?

01:11:21.000 I don't know, but we all watched The Apprentice.

01:11:22.000 Everybody watched The Apprentice.

01:11:23.000 Super famous person with social media can get elected.

01:11:26.000 Yeah, but through a party.

01:11:28.000 Well, he joined a party.

01:11:29.000 He didn't have to.

01:11:30.000 Yeah, he did.

01:11:31.000 No, he didn't.

01:11:31.000 Dude, why do you think Bernie runs as a Democrat, dude?

01:11:34.000 Because he's an idiot. 1.00

01:11:35.000 He should have run independent. 1.00

01:11:38.000 Uh, I was thinking back, sorry. 1.00

01:11:41.000 I was thinking you should have told Hillary, take it, suck it. 1.00

01:11:44.000 I'm going to run as an independent. 0.99

01:11:45.000 As soon as it found out that her server, that they were trying to end him and he would have won.

01:11:50.000 No, it would have split the left vote. 0.96

01:11:51.000 He would have dominated that election.

01:11:53.000 40% of Democrats identify as progressive as of 2018.

01:11:56.000 So many of them would have defected.

01:11:58.000 Many of them would say, I don't want to risk Trump winning, but it would split the vote for sure.

01:12:03.000 Yeah.

01:12:03.000 All the people, half of Trump's voters would have voted for him.

01:12:05.000 The Democrats are fractured and the Republicans are unified.

01:12:09.000 Indeed, on that.

01:12:10.000 That is for sure.

01:12:11.000 That's a strong statement.

01:12:12.000 Which is a fact.

01:12:13.000 Republicans are shattered. 1.00

01:12:14.000 Trump's their freaking head man. 0.99

01:12:16.000 And they've got Mitch McConnell in the party. 0.99

01:12:18.000 I'm citing Pew and Economist data that shows the Republican Party has coalesced around a core central ideal, or ideals.

01:12:25.000 He's talking about the people of the party.

01:12:29.000 Not the president?

01:12:29.000 The president and the party apparatus are not aligned.

01:12:32.000 But the voters and the president clearly are.

01:12:35.000 Yes.

01:12:35.000 Oh, I see.

01:12:36.000 On the Democrat side, it's split into two mounds of progressives.

01:12:39.000 Yeah, that's for sure.

01:12:40.000 So if you break those up, they're literally two different parties.

01:12:44.000 They seriously are.

01:12:45.000 You've got union, working class, corporate, weird amalgam. 0.60

01:12:49.000 It's like Joe Biden represents the I'll say whatever I have to say to convince people to vote for me. 0.76

01:12:53.000 Then you have progressives who are like, Socialism all the way, literally, and I guess they try to deny it, but it's ridiculous. 0.79

01:13:01.000 They don't agree. 0.60

01:13:03.000 Joe Biden's a capitalist.

01:13:04.000 He loves going and making all that sweet money through his name and his family name, sending his kid out to make cash for him and his brother.

01:13:09.000 Yeah, but if you're a communist, you can make even more money off your sweet name.

01:13:14.000 And if you're a communist, you can call yourself a Democrat and run as the Democratic nominee.

01:13:18.000 Well, so here's the big problem.

01:13:20.000 I see it.

01:13:21.000 Joe Biden doesn't represent anybody as far as I'm concerned.

01:13:24.000 Like, nobody wanted Joe Biden.

01:13:26.000 You know what I mean?

01:13:27.000 Settle for Biden. 0.53

01:13:28.000 Exactly.

01:13:28.000 Settle for Biden.

01:13:30.000 So here's what I see.

01:13:31.000 Most liberals, traditional liberals, are not active.

01:13:35.000 They're not paying attention.

01:13:37.000 Well, I should say these are passive liberals.

01:13:39.000 These are people who probably have similar policy positions to us, to all of us, actually.

01:13:43.000 And they're not paying attention.

01:13:45.000 So you have very, very politically active progressives that dominate the narrative over and over again.

01:13:49.000 You then have your only option outside of them to not be a conservative is the likes of Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, and they're awful, old crony corporate establishment politicians.

01:14:00.000 There is no moderate liberal populist.

01:14:04.000 You either have Trump, which is right populism, and then you have Bernie, who joined the ranks of the corporate Democrats, I guess.

01:14:12.000 But my choice right now, what do I have?

01:14:14.000 Do I vote for the lunatic socialist woke people? 0.96

01:14:17.000 No! 0.97

01:14:18.000 But then I'm like, I'm not going to vote for Biden.

01:14:21.000 I got to vote for Trump.

01:14:22.000 No, here's the choice that people made.

01:14:24.000 And I was thinking about this back when you mentioned, like, how is it that Biden got more votes than Barack Obama right back in what, 2008?

01:14:33.000 So 12 years later.

01:14:35.000 Are the demographic changes so profound that we're going to turn out that many people?

01:14:39.000 No.

01:14:39.000 More people turn out for Joe Biden than to turn out for the first black president of the United States.

01:14:44.000 But he was a celebrity, dude.

01:14:47.000 Barack Obama was a celebrity.

01:14:48.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:14:50.000 Let me get to the point here.

01:14:52.000 So the point actually is that the choice that the Democrats were faced with was this.

01:14:57.000 Do I want to be mentally tortured for another four years by my own party? 0.75

01:15:03.000 The Democratic Party and the Democratic media have tortured, gaslit, and abused the Democratic voter for four years by telling them that this guy Donald Trump, who everybody loved in 2014, who was on The Apprentice and with Oprah and with Jesse Jackson and getting awards from NAACP and the whole thing, And we're gonna say, all of a sudden, he's a racist, he's Hitler, he's the end of the world, he's authoritarian, you should be scared, you should be terrified, you should be freaking out! 0.68

01:15:32.000 The Democratic Party beat their own voters into voting for whomever they decided.

01:15:39.000 The only choice the Democrats had was, please make it stop.

01:15:43.000 And they didn't know.

01:15:44.000 They don't know what it is.

01:15:46.000 But really, they're just saying, please make it stop.

01:15:48.000 And where's the abuse coming from?

01:15:50.000 It's not coming from Trump's policies.

01:15:52.000 It's not coming from the actions of the Republican Party.

01:15:54.000 It's not coming from MAGA patriots blowing up cities and rioting all over the place.

01:15:59.000 No, the torture is coming from the Democrats.

01:16:02.000 They're doing it to their own people with their foot soldiers in the street with Black Lives Matter and Antifa and all this chaos and saying to people, if you don't vote for our guy, you're going to let Hitler take over the country.

01:16:14.000 And they're just like, please make it stop.

01:16:17.000 They're all deranged and broken down on purpose.

01:16:20.000 That's the only choice.

01:16:21.000 And where are we at now?

01:16:23.000 The media is saying the election's over, Joe Biden won, submit.

01:16:26.000 Submit.

01:16:27.000 Even though we haven't gone through state certification, let alone choosing electors, let alone certifying the electoral results.

01:16:33.000 Congress has to then certify the results after that.

01:16:36.000 We've gone through none of the traditional constitutional processes, and they're already saying, shut your mouth, Joe Biden is the president elect.

01:16:43.000 A lot about corporate media political collusion on this just in life in general on the show.

01:16:49.000 Do you think they were incrementally moving towards a better place, a solution where that kind of thing isn't happening?

01:16:56.000 No, dude.

01:16:56.000 Powers being concentrated, countries being polarized, networks are being fortified and hardened.

01:17:01.000 And our separations are going beyond political movements and now into tribes.

01:17:05.000 And it's all being fueled by money and corporate sponsors and curators and influencers and the media and everybody pushing us into these horribly ostracized tribes based on empathetic triggers that make us want to hate each other.

01:17:18.000 No, it's not getting any better.

01:17:19.000 Who's doing it?

01:17:21.000 It's an emergent phenomenon.

01:17:23.000 There's not one old guy pulling all the marionette strings.

01:17:28.000 They go after Soros.

01:17:29.000 It's an emergent phenomenon.

01:17:31.000 Sure, Soros has done stuff on the record.

01:17:33.000 He's part of the emergence.

01:17:34.000 Right.

01:17:34.000 He's part of it.

01:17:35.000 All of the billionaires.

01:17:37.000 They all have an alignment currently, and it's playing out.

01:17:40.000 They want to diminish the power of the federal government.

01:17:42.000 I know people aren't talking about that as much.

01:17:43.000 The Democrats don't touch the corporations.

01:17:45.000 They don't do anything with the antitrust.

01:17:47.000 BLM, Antifa want to see the government diminished.

01:17:50.000 The socialists want to see a government, like a revolution.

01:17:53.000 Well, I disagree.

01:17:54.000 They want the power of the government for themselves.

01:17:56.000 Right, right, exactly.

01:17:57.000 Yeah, they want, well, they want to change the way that we're doing things, right?

01:18:00.000 The critical race theorists want to deconstruct the entire apparatus that is existing.

01:18:04.000 And so all of them have the same common interest, which is diminish the power of the federal government.

01:18:09.000 And that's why they're all on the same team right now.

01:18:11.000 Sure, but they're doing it to exert their own power over us. 0.95

01:18:14.000 Corporate power, race power, all that fear.

01:18:16.000 They're trying to vampirize it. 1.00

01:18:17.000 Sure, but they're doing it to exert their own power over us corporate power race. They're our all that fear kind of

01:18:22.000 vampirize No, I see them as self infiltrating these institutions and

01:18:27.000 government for power That I feel like you look at the media

01:18:31.000 The military.

01:18:32.000 And you look at the New York Times.

01:18:33.000 The New York Mag just wrote this big piece about how there's a ton of people in the New York Times, like, worried that it's become a woke activist brigade.

01:18:41.000 You have enough people of this new religion, you know, intersectionality, where they can stage a coup internally at these companies.

01:18:49.000 Because I think, like you mentioned, most people are like, I don't know.

01:18:52.000 I just, you know, just leave me out of it, I guess.

01:18:54.000 Yeah.

01:18:54.000 No, it's already happened.

01:18:55.000 The coup has already happened.

01:18:56.000 It happened through HR departments.

01:18:58.000 Is it the Vatican through the British government trying to retake the American people back?

01:19:06.000 We separated from the British crown in 1776 and there's a lot of British crown money in the Vatican and are they trying to take the United States back?

01:19:15.000 Is it the British? 0.88

01:19:16.000 Wait, I'm allowed to say that the United States...

01:19:18.000 said goodbye British crown and we revolted against them.

01:19:21.000 What does that have to do?

01:19:23.000 Are they trying to take the United States back?

01:19:25.000 No.

01:19:25.000 Are you sure?

01:19:26.000 I mean, I'm just, I'm just grabbing at straws.

01:19:28.000 That literally is nothing.

01:19:29.000 Who are these people?

01:19:30.000 Who is this emergent?

01:19:31.000 Why is this emergence happening to the United States government?

01:19:34.000 Because there are people who are in the United States who have gotten jobs in these, in these departments who have an ideology and want to exert it and they're aligned with their own pride.

01:19:43.000 It's not just people in the United States, it's global corporations are doing this.

01:19:47.000 They're doing it because the U.S. 0.63

01:19:48.000 has money and they're seeing what people are posting on social media.

01:19:51.000 Twitter has created a machine that incentivizes people to cancel you because they can put their PayPal link in it.

01:19:55.000 But the U.S.

01:19:56.000 doesn't have money.

01:19:56.000 The U.S.

01:19:57.000 borrows money from a federal bank.

01:19:59.000 There's nothing to do with what you just said.

01:20:00.000 You are literally saying random things right now.

01:20:02.000 I'm wondering, why is this emergence trying to take hold of the American government right now?

01:20:07.000 Bro, it's international.

01:20:08.000 Wokeism is everywhere.

01:20:10.000 Corporations are everywhere.

01:20:12.000 It's just a matter in some of those countries, the general population is all along for the ride.

01:20:16.000 In the United States, we're not like that.

01:20:19.000 When I say diminish government power, in this alliance, there are some people that want to seize control of the government, right?

01:20:25.000 For their own ends.

01:20:27.000 And then it's like exerting the government influence to their benefit.

01:20:30.000 But then there's other people that want to seize control of the government so that the government doesn't do anything.

01:20:34.000 Yeah.

01:20:34.000 So that they can just keep doing what they're doing.

01:20:36.000 The corporations can run around unmolested.

01:20:39.000 Right.

01:20:39.000 So it's either they're trying to take a hold of the U.S.

01:20:41.000 military, or they're trying to destroy the U.S.

01:20:43.000 Constitution.

01:20:45.000 Well, they are trying to destroy the Constitution, that's for sure.

01:20:46.000 And why is this international corporation group trying to destroy the U.S.

01:20:51.000 Constitution?

01:20:52.000 What are you talking about?

01:20:54.000 No, destroying the U.S.

01:20:55.000 Constitution is just like a byproduct of the fact that they want to keep their power. 0.88

01:20:59.000 They've said, get rid of the Constitution.

01:21:01.000 There's a New Republic article saying the left should actively campaign against the written Constitution of the United States.

01:21:06.000 Sure.

01:21:08.000 And it's because they want to ban speech.

01:21:10.000 And it's because they want to maintain power.

01:21:12.000 And if you can't share ideas, those ideas can't persist.

01:21:15.000 You know, I'm sorry for bringing up the British crown.

01:21:18.000 I just think...

01:21:20.000 The power structure of a monarchy bothers me, and I wonder if this corporate thing is similar to that.

01:21:25.000 And they want to destroy this freedom mechanism of the U.S.

01:21:27.000 Constitution so that they can exert top-down authority.

01:21:31.000 None of that has anything to do with the... Sorry, I said that real crudely to you, real mean.

01:21:35.000 It has nothing to do with emergence in any way.

01:21:38.000 Emergence is, a person goes on Twitter and says, Jack Murphy is alt-right.

01:21:44.000 He gets a million retweets, and then he goes, send me money through PayPal!

01:21:48.000 And he realizes, wow, if I call people alt-right, I can put my PayPal link and get money!

01:21:53.000 Then, a bunch of people start realizing they can do this, so they all start doing it at the same time.

01:21:56.000 Then Coca-Cola goes on a Twitter and goes, whoa, they really like it when you call people alt-right!

01:22:01.000 Coca-Cola, we don't like the alt-right either!

01:22:04.000 They're targeting what the, you know, the big corporations are putting money behind what they see and what they think.

01:22:09.000 You've got Democrats that are doing the same thing.

01:22:11.000 A Democratic politician comes on and says, wow, a lot of people are talking about the alt-right.

01:22:14.000 I oppose them!

01:22:15.000 Vote for me! 0.95

01:22:16.000 Now all of a sudden you've built this twisted, weird culture around nonsensical cancel culture and woke ideas because on Twitter it made people money.

01:22:25.000 Then 92% of the population who don't prescribe to these beliefs are like, What?

01:22:30.000 I'm not voting for that guy!

01:22:32.000 And then the Republicans, they're on track to win what, like 12 seats in the House now? 0.97

01:22:36.000 Because they're like, this is ridiculous and makes no sense.

01:22:39.000 The crazy thing about it though is, it started to go into the HR departments, and now regular people who are like, I don't care about Twitter and cancel culture, walk into their workplace one day and someone says, oh, you're not checking your privilege?

01:22:53.000 And they're like, wait a minute.

01:22:54.000 What is this?

01:22:56.000 Now, I think, Or when you see it in your children's curriculum at school, forcing your kids to have courageous conversations and sit in their witness.

01:23:06.000 Or when your kids come home and call you racist.

01:23:10.000 Exactly.

01:23:13.000 I've touched onto something with this collusion to destroy the U.S.

01:23:16.000 Constitution, that it's a big global scheme to get rid of the U.S.

01:23:20.000 Constitution.

01:23:21.000 No, no, you're going way too far.

01:23:22.000 The United States is unique.

01:23:24.000 It's a free state.

01:23:25.000 And if we proliferated this concept across the world, They've tried.

01:23:29.000 We've tried, bro.

01:23:33.000 Not by force.

01:23:34.000 By culture.

01:23:36.000 By culture, yeah.

01:23:37.000 People have adopted our movies, our music, our video games.

01:23:40.000 Computer program languages.

01:23:42.000 Using English.

01:23:42.000 And it's popular.

01:23:43.000 People like Hollywood.

01:23:44.000 They like movies.

01:23:45.000 They like being able to walk around outside and not get shot.

01:23:47.000 They like it.

01:23:48.000 Okay, you're on to something in one regard.

01:23:50.000 I'll give you this one sliver here, that the corporations definitely are working to build a supranational, you know, sort of network that can transcend domestic laws.

01:24:02.000 That's what they want, right?

01:24:03.000 And they want a trading system that's independent of the states and can just do whatever they want.

01:24:09.000 That's why they set up these, you know, the quasi-government agencies like the World Trade Organization and the IMF and the World Bank and all these things.

01:24:17.000 To create this system, this ecosystem that is actually separate from the nation states.

01:24:22.000 That's definitely what they want to do.

01:24:23.000 They want to end the power of the nation state.

01:24:26.000 It's not specifically.

01:24:27.000 I mean, you have some cases, but it's not specifically about the U.S.

01:24:30.000 Constitution.

01:24:31.000 It's not even necessarily just about the United States.

01:24:33.000 It's about wanting to have power that's greater than a nation-state.

01:24:37.000 And these corporations are like mini-monarchies with the king at the top being the owner.

01:24:41.000 No, they're not monarchies.

01:24:42.000 Well, they've got an owner that runs it all.

01:24:44.000 No, they have board members and they have public shareholders.

01:24:47.000 But a lot of them have owners.

01:24:49.000 Sure.

01:24:50.000 I mean, those owners maybe, a lot of those owners own, I don't know, I don't want to speculate here, but a lot of them, I believe, own a lot of those companies together.

01:24:58.000 So an oligarchical, you know, oligarchy.

01:25:01.000 That was a little redundant.

01:25:03.000 Corporate power is pervasive.

01:25:06.000 Okay.

01:25:06.000 So instead of, it's not a bunch of mini monarchies, it's an oligarchy.

01:25:10.000 Or corporatocracy.

01:25:11.000 Yeah.

01:25:12.000 Yeah.

01:25:12.000 And they have more money than the monarchies, then more power and more reach.

01:25:17.000 Billions and billions and more.

01:25:19.000 You think, yeah, maybe you're right.

01:25:21.000 I mean, if you can control the world's information and access to it, does that not make you more powerful than the queen of England?

01:25:28.000 You know what's crazy?

01:25:29.000 Mark Zuckerberg could, like, someone in this position could probably get any person they wanted if they wanted to, like, like, date or have a relationship.

01:25:38.000 You know literally everything about them.

01:25:40.000 You know when they go to work, you know when they poop, you know what their interests are, you know literally everything, but you can manipulate them too.

01:25:46.000 So you can target individuals.

01:25:48.000 You know, Facebook was doing this.

01:25:50.000 They were feeding specific stories to people to see how they would respond.

01:25:53.000 Yep.

01:25:54.000 That's crazy.

01:25:55.000 They were like, I wonder what this effect, you know, show them a bunch of happy stories and see what they do.

01:25:58.000 See how they react.

01:25:59.000 Show them a bunch of negative stories.

01:26:00.000 Oh, dude.

01:26:01.000 And Microsoft just patented this technology where you swallow a pill and it measures your body heat and your biometrics and then pays you cryptocurrency.

01:26:09.000 That sounds fake.

01:26:10.000 It's real.

01:26:12.000 You can go to the Bitcoin.com, look up Microsoft Internet of Bodies, I think.

01:26:17.000 But wouldn't you just poop it out?

01:26:19.000 Maybe one day.

01:26:20.000 What?

01:26:21.000 But in the meantime, they're tracking your biometrics.

01:26:24.000 Now, there's one part of that that I find completely interesting and something that we really should be talking about, which is like how to own your personal data and how to benefit from it.

01:26:32.000 Like students, for example, in kindergarten take these tests and then the companies use the results from the test to create new products that they then sell to the schools to make more money.

01:26:40.000 So they're actually using your children.

01:26:42.000 as inputs into the products that they are making money off of.

01:26:46.000 Why shouldn't our children own all their education data and then receive micropayments from the companies for the benefit that they get of using the information?

01:26:54.000 That's how we should own.

01:26:56.000 All of us own our own information and we should be compensated for it.

01:27:00.000 This model with Facebook and Google just giving ourselves away for access to an email account. 0.99

01:27:05.000 It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. 0.89

01:27:07.000 Now that you really think about it and see what the negative effects are. 1.00

01:27:11.000 Right.

01:27:11.000 You've just given away all of your information, all of your personal sovereignty, all to a corporation.

01:27:17.000 So you can use their stupid free email or use their stupid free search? 1.00

01:27:17.000 Why? 1.00

01:27:21.000 Yeah.

01:27:22.000 A good friend of mine, Ben Peterson, has mentioned a few times that he wants access to his Facebook analytics and like all of them.

01:27:28.000 Why is that?

01:27:28.000 Why is that kept secret?

01:27:30.000 Well, it's kept secret because you click that box when you sign up for your free stuff, bro.

01:27:34.000 If we're going to regulate, that's a nice thing to regulate.

01:27:36.000 Well, that's wouldn't it be nice if there was active antitrust effort underway to clamp down on social media monopolies and front censorship and stealing your data and doing all kinds of nefarious things and programming your brain and changing your emotion and using your Fitbit, which is connected to the Internet, which is connected to the ads so that they know when they send you an ad what your heart rate does so they can send you another ad to get your heart rate up even higher.

01:27:59.000 Don't you think it would be good for us to like step in and sort of have someone look at that?

01:28:02.000 That's what's not been happening.

01:28:03.000 Yeah, that's what's not including Microsoft with this biohacking stuff.

01:28:06.000 Yeah, that is what's not been happening.

01:28:08.000 And that's what the corporations want to have keep happening, which is the absence of behavior like that, the absence of regulation like that.

01:28:14.000 And that's what I say when they're interested in diminishing the power of the federal government, right?

01:28:18.000 If Trump was smart, I wish he would have on day one in his office, he would have prevented all of this crap that's happening right now in social media universe.

01:28:27.000 If he would have gotten real hearings and real investigations and prevented Google from like auto completing your searches and flashing things, they literally flash things just to change your mind, change your mood as you're typing things out and fake searches and search suggestions and things like that.

01:28:44.000 They're totally manipulating all of us on purpose, told us all that they were doing it, it's been released, Project Veritas, a ton of stuff on it.

01:28:51.000 They could make you buy something for no reason.

01:28:53.000 Indeed.

01:28:53.000 Like all of a sudden people are just buying rocks and they own the rock company.

01:28:58.000 It's an extreme example, but yeah.

01:28:59.000 It's kind of like putting candy at the cash register, but it's way more insidious because you're comfortable in your own house.

01:29:06.000 Sure, you're preying on people's sort of instinctive behaviors and their needs and their emotional states.

01:29:11.000 What if they know that they can trigger you into some sort of, you know, a triggered emotional state and then throw a sales pitch at you that now you're more susceptible to purchase that item.

01:29:21.000 They're doing, they do that.

01:29:22.000 And I think they should be allowed to, but I think you should have access to knowing exactly how they're measuring it and doing it.

01:29:30.000 I would never want to step in on a capitalist system and be like, you can't sell products that way.

01:29:36.000 Not necessarily, not never.

01:29:37.000 You know, cigarettes couldn't be sold to kids after a while, but, or cartoons couldn't be used to sell.

01:29:42.000 And so are you of the opinion that Twitter should be able to ban whoever they want for whatever reason, totally incongruently with them?

01:29:48.000 Yeah.

01:29:49.000 But I also think their code should be free so that I could start a Twitter and not ban anyone. 0.94

01:29:52.000 And then you can be like, well, that Twitter sucks.

01:29:54.000 I'm going to Ian's Twitter. 0.94

01:29:55.000 Yeah.

01:29:55.000 Except that exists and doesn't work.

01:29:57.000 Yeah.

01:29:57.000 I don't know their code yet.

01:29:59.000 It's not about code.

01:29:59.000 It's about the fact that there are multiple services just like Twitter.

01:30:02.000 And what happens is then the activists who have got you banned in the first place launch an attack against the new platform to get those banned and get their resources stripped away.

01:30:10.000 I mean, it works every time.

01:30:11.000 Literally exactly like the exact same carbon copy of the site.

01:30:15.000 It makes no sense.

01:30:16.000 It makes total sense.

01:30:17.000 It's not a product that they offer.

01:30:19.000 It's the market capture that they have is where their power comes from.

01:30:22.000 It's not the technical side.

01:30:25.000 Well, it's both.

01:30:25.000 And you would interrelate the two.

01:30:27.000 So if I was using Ian Twitter, I could still see all those people on the other Twitter.

01:30:31.000 But Twitter is not anything.

01:30:33.000 Twitter is literally a reverse chronological feed of people posting things.

01:30:36.000 Their code is advanced RSS.

01:30:37.000 It's text messages, dude.

01:30:38.000 Why was it 140 characters?

01:30:39.000 Because that's what SMS was.

01:30:44.000 And now it's just 280 because arbitrary.

01:30:48.000 Twitter has an algorithm, but the algorithm, people don't use it.

01:30:51.000 People, well, I mean, some people probably do, but most people hate it. 0.86

01:30:54.000 It's literally just bare bones, garbage, trash, simple code. 0.51

01:30:58.000 Sure, they've got things like direct messages. 1.00

01:30:59.000 Trash.

01:31:00.000 But if they ban you, you have no access to the town hall. 0.99

01:31:03.000 It would be like saying, you can't come into the public square where we're discussing things, but don't worry, there's another one down the street you can go use.

01:31:11.000 No one's there, but go ahead and go there and talk.

01:31:13.000 Yeah.

01:31:13.000 Yeah, it should be like, if you wanna, you can't use my computer to access the town hall, you gotta go use that other computer to access the town hall, is how it should be working.

01:31:20.000 So you're saying- And each computer is a carbon copy of Twitter.

01:31:23.000 So you're saying national is Twitter.

01:31:24.000 The town hall is- Yeah, that's what he's saying.

01:31:26.000 Or, well, it would still have to be open source and free because the government could be just as dangerous as a corporation.

01:31:32.000 So what you're saying is you want to confiscate Twitter and then release its intellectual property into the universe so that it has zero value and everyone has access to it.

01:31:41.000 Well, it's definitely still valuable.

01:31:43.000 You're a communist.

01:31:44.000 Not if everybody has.

01:31:45.000 Hey, look, we had to do it with the well, the railroads are still private.

01:31:48.000 I think it's a private public thing.

01:31:50.000 The railroads at one point were completely private.

01:31:52.000 And when they started to strangle.

01:31:53.000 So you bring up a good point to new technology is disruptive to the point where not novel, you know, actions need to be taken.

01:32:01.000 And I think that Twitter has reached, you know, that that point, especially when they're nefariously manipulating and controlling your conversation.

01:32:10.000 Check it out.

01:32:13.000 I think we would have a serious problem if we had a free, completely free and open Twitter with mass usership.

01:32:21.000 Regular people wouldn't want to use it.

01:32:22.000 They'd stay away from it.

01:32:23.000 Yeah.

01:32:24.000 No, it'd be crazy.

01:32:25.000 It would be insane.

01:32:26.000 Yeah, I think the solution is, uh, the dark and the light.

01:32:29.000 So that, you know, first floor, second floor, where when you walk in, you're on the first floor and everything looks clean and pristine.

01:32:37.000 And then if you say naughty words, we kick you to the basement, where you can still have access to, you can hear what everyone's saying around you, but they have to choose to opt in to hear what you say.

01:32:45.000 Therefore, You're not being kicked off the platform. 0.99

01:32:48.000 You can still use it, but you're kind of a dick. 0.98

01:32:51.000 So people have to turn on, you know, dark, you know, not safe for work mode to see what you, what you see. 0.99

01:32:56.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:57.000 Otherwise, Twitter was a nasty place.

01:32:59.000 I mean, it isn't as a horrible place, but it's just been nasty the whole time.

01:33:03.000 And when you had just endless harassment, trolling, and you still kind of do, it's not as bad as it used to be.

01:33:08.000 It was an awful place to be.

01:33:10.000 People didn't want to be there.

01:33:11.000 So what Twitter was like, how can we make this more friendly and more cooperative?

01:33:14.000 You can't.

01:33:15.000 All right?

01:33:16.000 It can't be done.

01:33:17.000 But they've banned a lot of people.

01:33:19.000 That kind of solved some of the problem.

01:33:21.000 We'll ban you unless you do as we say.

01:33:22.000 And maybe that's the real goal of the Iron Fist.

01:33:25.000 They're trying to scare people into falling in line, otherwise you'll get banned.

01:33:28.000 But a lot of people just don't care, and so they'll do it anyway.

01:33:30.000 I think the solution is, if you break the rules, you get a filter.

01:33:34.000 And then if people want to read the filter post, you turn filter on.

01:33:37.000 So, choice.

01:33:38.000 It's too strong because their rules shouldn't, I don't think, should be the gatekeeper of the commons.

01:33:42.000 Self-curation.

01:33:44.000 Just let people block.

01:33:46.000 Block and ignore.

01:33:47.000 Block and mute.

01:33:48.000 I have blocked 3,000 people.

01:33:51.000 I block like crazy.

01:33:52.000 I have fun blocking.

01:33:53.000 If you want to get blocked, troll me one time.

01:33:55.000 That's it.

01:33:56.000 You get zero chances. 1.00

01:33:58.000 And in fact, I block people who aren't even talking to me that I see looking like idiots to my friends, to other people that I know. 0.98

01:34:04.000 I preemptively block people. 0.98

01:34:06.000 I block people for making bad jokes.

01:34:08.000 Just don't do it.

01:34:09.000 Because I enjoy doing it.

01:34:11.000 I get a cackle out of it.

01:34:12.000 It's fun.

01:34:13.000 We should go to Super Chats.

01:34:14.000 Do it.

01:34:14.000 Super Chats.

01:34:15.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button.

01:34:18.000 We are going to be here for an extra half an hour because YouTube went down.

01:34:22.000 So we're doing that for you.

01:34:23.000 And if anyone knows why they went down, please do tell on the chat.

01:34:26.000 Cloudflare.

01:34:27.000 I don't think it was.

01:34:27.000 It said Cloudflare was up when I checked.

01:34:30.000 YouTube goes down sometimes.

01:34:31.000 By the way, my name is Jack Murphy.

01:34:33.000 You can find me at JackMurphyLive.com, at JackMurphyLive on Twitter, also JackMurphyLive on YouTube.

01:34:38.000 Hey, YouTube viewers, go subscribe to my channel.

01:34:41.000 Let's get me over 20,000.

01:34:41.000 Let's get over 20,000.

01:34:42.000 Let's do it.

01:34:43.000 Let's get that plaque on the wall.

01:34:46.000 Do you get one for 20?

01:34:48.000 No.

01:34:48.000 100.

01:34:48.000 Well, let's do Super Chats.

01:34:51.000 Mr. Obvious says, My channel was demonetized for talking about the election, possible slash confirmed fraud and legal cases.

01:34:58.000 I always provide context, evidence, and doubt.

01:35:01.000 I follow the YouTube guidelines.

01:35:02.000 They've taken my income and livelihood.

01:35:04.000 Do you know anyone who can help?

01:35:06.000 Unfortunately, I don't.

01:35:08.000 It's a cutthroat business, YouTube, and they're gonna arbitrarily axe people.

01:35:14.000 That's why I keep saying it's only a matter of time before they ban me, and then, you know, when it happens, it happens, I guess.

01:35:18.000 Rock and roll tour time!

01:35:20.000 Start starting your own network is really key.

01:35:22.000 I think in this in this day and age, getting subscriptions, bypassing advertisers, liminal order, liminal order.com.

01:35:30.000 Hey, Tim, by the way, love the track, the audio track.

01:35:33.000 I thought the song was fantastic.

01:35:35.000 I love the video.

01:35:35.000 Yep.

01:35:35.000 Oh, thank you.

01:35:37.000 I love the whole mood.

01:35:38.000 I was very impressed.

01:35:39.000 Congratulations.

01:35:40.000 So that's the will of the people.

01:35:41.000 It's a song I wrote.

01:35:42.000 And if you get a chance, put some headphones on and listen to it with headphones, because it's another song.

01:35:46.000 And if you get banned, dude, I'd say you hit the road.

01:35:49.000 I'll be a, what do you call it, stagehand?

01:35:49.000 You hit the road.

01:35:52.000 Let's do it.

01:35:53.000 We should do that anyway, man.

01:35:53.000 Roadie.

01:35:54.000 I'll be a roadie.

01:35:55.000 I can carry stuff.

01:35:55.000 Let's go jam.

01:35:56.000 Brian Michael says, you're losing viewers day by day.

01:36:00.000 Do you think it's because you are softly accepting a Biden presidency or because you shut down guests that have different opinions than yours?

01:36:06.000 I do like you a lot.

01:36:08.000 Uh, I'm not losing viewers day by day.

01:36:09.000 I have more viewers than I've ever had.

01:36:11.000 And there are some people who have, who have been giving me a slightly higher percentage of thumbs down on my main, on my main channel segments, but it's like 98% versus 99%.

01:36:19.000 I think.

01:36:21.000 I think Tim Pool's doing quite all right.

01:36:23.000 I think this is another one of these posts where people are like demanding that I prop up people who claim they

01:36:30.000 invented email and stuff like that.

01:36:31.000 Oh, Shiva.

01:36:33.000 Yeah. So you have a guy who's like, I invented email.

01:36:35.000 And now they're like, look, he made a YouTube video where he's arguing this is true and the election was stolen.

01:36:39.000 And it's like, dude, I'm not going to take unverifiable claims from people as a reason to actually go after this.

01:36:49.000 I actually think the people who are bringing this up are the pro-Biden people.

01:36:51.000 No joke.

01:36:52.000 Because they want to trick you into highlighting unverifiable conspiracies to throw you off the actual argument.

01:36:59.000 So when I make a video and I'm like, hey look, the RNC has presented a sworn affidavit saying there's fraud and they get mad, I can only imagine that's a Biden person.

01:37:06.000 Is that a MacGuffin?

01:37:07.000 Is that what that is?

01:37:08.000 No, no, MacGuffin is that's that's like an item that you need to move a plot or something.

01:37:15.000 Oh, I see.

01:37:17.000 Yeah.

01:37:17.000 So basically, you'd think people who actually wanted Trump to win would be like, it's very good that Tim is highlighting the actual hard evidence and discounting what the media is saying.

01:37:25.000 Instead they come here and say, prop up the insane YouTube conspiracies, which will completely discredit everything they're trying to do.

01:37:25.000 Yes.

01:37:32.000 Yeah, sounds like a pro-Biden person.

01:37:34.000 So I wonder why it is that 98% are thumbs up.

01:37:38.000 Probably because the people who are trying to drag it down are the ones who want Biden to win by pushing unhinged conspiracies.

01:37:42.000 There's a lot of people that just want, they want to talk about hammer and score.

01:37:46.000 I know it because I get it.

01:37:48.000 And it's just...

01:37:49.000 It's it's not a Biden.

01:37:50.000 It's not a partisan thing.

01:37:51.000 It's just there's just this like some people just like I just I know it with the core of my being people are feeling this way and it's so it's frustrating that you a prominent journalist that usually looks at all the facts isn't going hard on it.

01:38:03.000 But I think your argument that focus on what's right in front of you going hard on what one guy came out hammer and scorecard some guy comes out and says there's a secret program.

01:38:12.000 You'll never find it.

01:38:13.000 And what am I supposed to say?

01:38:14.000 Wow.

01:38:14.000 I don't know.

01:38:15.000 I don't know.

01:38:16.000 Investigate it.

01:38:17.000 That's what they want to see you do.

01:38:18.000 went to the moon. Investigate what? We had Sidney, uh, what the heck? Sidney Powell,

01:38:18.000 Sidney Powell.

01:38:23.000 Sidney Powell, a lawyer, a lawyer talking about it and an Air Force guy talking about it. And

01:38:28.000 you've got classified information and you've also, it's also, listen, man, I have been, I, I, I've

01:38:34.000 been covering so much stuff for so long and it's so obvious how easy it is to trick people into 0.80

01:38:40.000 talking about stupid, like unverifiable claims and completely discredit any and all efforts to 0.97

01:38:47.000 to get a fair election process. 1.00

01:38:49.000 And the moment you come out and go to a court and say, there's a computer program called Hammer, and the scorecard thing they're changing, the judge is going to be like, Get out of here!

01:38:56.000 What are you talking about?

01:38:57.000 You've got no proof, you've got some guys... It's like, it reminds me of that dude who claimed there were aliens at Area 51.

01:39:03.000 And people are like, it's true, he's a witness. 0.96

01:39:04.000 Dude, that's ridiculous. 0.51

01:39:06.000 He's got no evidence. 0.97

01:39:07.000 You can't take one guy saying one thing and then launch a massive legal proceeding to win a presidency.

01:39:12.000 What you can do is take 11,000 sworn statements, like the RNC is claiming they have all these people coming forward, and actually have an opportunity to have a real legal case.

01:39:22.000 Yeah, it seems like, in regards to your journalism, you're not in deep investigation mode right now.

01:39:27.000 You're in, like, reporting mode.

01:39:30.000 So you're not looking deep into the dark underbelly.

01:39:33.000 You're just reporting on what's directly in front of you, for the most part.

01:39:36.000 No.

01:39:37.000 You, like all of these people who are desperate to get these, like, mathematical analysis that proves the election was stolen.

01:39:45.000 are falling into a trap because it proves your confirmation bias to you.

01:39:50.000 And it is tricking you.

01:39:52.000 I say this all the time.

01:39:53.000 Pizzagate.

01:39:54.000 How easy was it to shut down the actual investigation into what was going on with leaked emails?

01:40:00.000 Think about it.

01:40:01.000 You had a bunch of elites.

01:40:02.000 Emails coming out.

01:40:03.000 They're doing something weird.

01:40:05.000 And all of a sudden, some weird message pops up on a forum claiming these ridiculous things about Satan and whatever.

01:40:11.000 And then a guy shows up with a gun and shoots the floor and the whole thing stopped.

01:40:14.000 No more investigation.

01:40:15.000 No more emails.

01:40:17.000 They tricked these people and it worked like a charm.

01:40:20.000 And now, right now, you have a sworn affidavit from a Nevada poll worker.

01:40:24.000 I saw fraud.

01:40:25.000 And what do I get?

01:40:26.000 Tim, talk about the unverifiable government conspiracy!

01:40:30.000 Why?

01:40:30.000 So that we can completely discredit any opportunity to have an actual investigation into the real fraud?

01:40:35.000 It's not about time.

01:40:37.000 You only have so much time in the day to choose what you talk about.

01:40:40.000 You can't go in and read.

01:40:41.000 No, dude.

01:40:41.000 It's about you being tricked into chasing after a red herring.

01:40:44.000 Are you saying me personally?

01:40:45.000 Yes, you personally.

01:40:46.000 I mean, I'm bringing up the topic.

01:40:48.000 You're bringing up something that you can't verify.

01:40:50.000 It is throwing everything... It derails the conversation.

01:40:53.000 Because a lot of people are feeling it.

01:40:54.000 That's why I brought it up.

01:40:55.000 Because a lot of people... I'm not trying to make you think about it.

01:40:57.000 I'm telling you why that guy super chatted that.

01:40:59.000 Tim, I have a question for you.

01:41:01.000 Based on what you said, do you think the people on the right that picked up Pizzagate and ran with it actually screwed the pooch on getting real investigation into the Podesta emails?

01:41:10.000 Yep.

01:41:11.000 Because I think the first and most obvious thing you need to do is think about what high-profile individuals are doing.

01:41:17.000 Drugs.

01:41:18.000 And guess what? If you grew up in the south side of Chicago, you know all the slang terms for drugs.

01:41:23.000 And so when they're talking about playing games on this, that, or this, I'm like,

01:41:26.000 they're doing crack like Hunter Biden.

01:41:28.000 We used to say, I need to talk to a man about a duck.

01:41:31.000 Exactly. So you get Hunter Biden's got a crack pipe in his mouth.

01:41:35.000 We know these high profile individuals are probably slinging and doing dope and other crazy drugs. 0.84

01:41:40.000 And so how do you stop people from unveiling the fact that you're having coked out drug parties, make them start putting up some ridiculous ideas about spirit cooking Satan parties with... So now let's go one step further here.

01:41:53.000 Are you suggesting that the DNC Podesta people planted Pizzagate in 4chan with the hope that it would become a conversation taken up by people on the right that could be easily discredited as to sabotage the entire investigation into the email leak and the Russia or however it happened?

01:42:14.000 No.

01:42:15.000 Well, possible.

01:42:17.000 And would be a very, very smart move.

01:42:19.000 I have no evidence to suggest that's the case, other than people chase after ridiculous narratives because life is boring. 0.65

01:42:26.000 To find out you have a bunch of drug-addled politicians who are selling out your country is not nearly as sensational as satanic death cults selling kids and doing spirit cooking. 0.90

01:42:35.000 And also aliens.

01:42:36.000 I think that the Roswell crash was government technology, like, you know, lightweight drones or whatever.

01:42:42.000 And they made us all think about that their aliens are real.

01:42:45.000 And I don't know this planet.

01:42:46.000 I don't have any evidence.

01:42:47.000 But saying it was it was it was it was it was a hot air balloon.

01:42:50.000 And then they said it was alien craft.

01:42:51.000 And they were doing it because they were probably working on some kind of top secret military tech.

01:42:55.000 And they were like, if people start looking into this, it could screw up our actual, you know, weapons project.

01:43:01.000 Tell them it's aliens.

01:43:02.000 That's what Ian's saying.

01:43:03.000 Right, I know.

01:43:04.000 Then a bunch of people are running around pointing at the sky, screaming aliens.

01:43:07.000 And may I say, Ian, to your point, this is something that Scott Adams has talked about, because there are tiny instances of voter fraud that are being blown way out of proportion by the right wing.

01:43:19.000 All the left has to do is disprove a few small things in that instance.

01:43:23.000 People on the right are running around with their hair on fire over things that make no difference.

01:43:28.000 This is called a red herring.

01:43:30.000 And you mentioned this earlier.

01:43:31.000 This 100% is a red herring.

01:43:34.000 And this is something you need to look out for because they use this.

01:43:37.000 So if they have something big in the works, they're just diverting your attention.

01:43:42.000 And it's shocking how easily diverted people are.

01:43:44.000 And it's because of social media, at least partly, I would blame people in general, but it's at least partly because of social media and because of stuff like Twitter.

01:43:51.000 But you're 100% on point when you talk about a red herring because this is what they're doing to you.

01:43:56.000 I don't know if you realize that.

01:43:57.000 There is a 2020 word for this, too.

01:43:59.000 It's called fast transient.

01:44:02.000 And the point of a fast transient is to disrupt your OODA loop, which is observe, orient, decide and act.

01:44:08.000 And fast transients are meant to just destabilize your OODA loop and make it so you can't observe and you can't reorient yourself so that you can then make a decision and act in a proper way.

01:44:19.000 Trump does it all the time.

01:44:20.000 It also puts you in an extremely esoteric worldview, where when you try and talk to regular people and you're like, yo, hammer and scorecard, they go, what?

01:44:29.000 This Air Force general.

01:44:31.000 What?

01:44:31.000 The election.

01:44:32.000 Okay, dude, wait, what?

01:44:34.000 But if you go, a poll worker at the election said there was fraud.

01:44:37.000 They signed a sworn affidavit.

01:44:38.000 A regular person goes, really?

01:44:40.000 Whoa.

01:44:41.000 What's going on?

01:44:43.000 Hammer and Scorecard requires so- it's this- you get pushed into this extremely jargon-filled, esoteric reality that makes it very difficult for you to explain to other people because they're not there with you.

01:44:55.000 They're asking questions about, a vote was counted.

01:44:58.000 Was the vote real?

01:44:59.000 Donald Trump is suing, saying there's a violation of Equal Protection Clause.

01:45:03.000 Very, very simple.

01:45:04.000 Easy to understand.

01:45:06.000 To explain to someone why it is there may be impropriety in the election that could result in Trump's victory.

01:45:11.000 You come out and start talking about retired 83-year-old Air Force generals with a top-secret government program that they use to flip elections, and they're gonna be like, dude, you lost me.

01:45:19.000 This is... what?

01:45:20.000 Now, I think, you know, Michael Tracy mentioned the other day, you tell that to somebody and they probably will just agree with you.

01:45:24.000 Go, oh yeah, I'm sure there's all sorts of stuff like that.

01:45:26.000 They might just roll with it.

01:45:28.000 But you're not going to win in court by going up to a judge and claiming, your honor, the election was stolen.

01:45:33.000 We know because an 83 year old Air Force retired general said, the government has a program that can flip.

01:45:38.000 The judge is going to be like, okay.

01:45:40.000 Yeah.

01:45:40.000 Testimony is not enough to go on.

01:45:42.000 The judge is going to be like, you can, you can have a seat.

01:45:44.000 You can leave me, stop wasting my time.

01:45:46.000 In regards to the other part of that super chat where they said your views were going down, if you step back from view counts, you'll notice that they tend to go up in an up-down motion.

01:45:55.000 They'll like arc up, down, up, but they're constantly going up.

01:45:59.000 Trending higher.

01:46:01.000 You have to compare views based on year, so there's months where views go down for everybody, and there's months where views go up for everybody.

01:46:09.000 That's seasonal.

01:46:10.000 Yeah, it's absolutely seasonal.

01:46:11.000 And also, it is a fact, my viewership is down from last month, but this also happens with elections.

01:46:17.000 So just before the election, we had, just after the election, we had our biggest show ever on IRL with over 100,000 concurrent viewers.

01:46:23.000 Now, you know, today we peaked at like 67,000 or something, which is really high, but you know, 67% of our biggest.

01:46:29.000 So of course, views go down after the election.

01:46:31.000 Everybody wants to know what's happening, what happened.

01:46:34.000 And then, okay, I'm not going to watch anymore.

01:46:36.000 67,000 concurrence tonight with a 45 minute delayed headstart and screw up from YouTube.

01:46:41.000 Teamcast IRL on fire, y'all.

01:46:43.000 You are awesome.

01:46:44.000 Let me tell you, what frustrates me is we could have a very serious story and it's so easily derailed by sensational movie-esque nonsense.

01:46:57.000 Hammer and Scorecard could very well be real, but you're not going to argue that in court to get Donald Trump a victory.

01:47:02.000 Not in the next few weeks.

01:47:03.000 Yeah, unless some documentation arrives and it's corroborated, but I haven't seen anything like that.

01:47:08.000 You're going to need declassified documents.

01:47:10.000 You're going to need practical usage.

01:47:11.000 You're going to need sworn affidavits from people saying that they literally used it this time around.

01:47:15.000 The one thing that I think is interesting right now is potentially the Dominion whistleblowers that people are saying are coming forward.

01:47:22.000 We'll see if that happens.

01:47:23.000 That will be serious.

01:47:24.000 That's going to be someone claiming the Dominion voting machines and software was flipping votes.

01:47:29.000 We get a whistleblower saying that in a sworn affidavit, we got something.

01:47:33.000 If somebody gets Epstein'd in the next few weeks, then we definitely know something was afoot, right?

01:47:38.000 I guess.

01:47:40.000 No?

01:47:41.000 Still conjecture?

01:47:42.000 But let me know if it happens.

01:47:44.000 Doobie McNasty says, gonna tell my kids this was America.

01:47:48.000 Yeah, man.

01:47:49.000 Take a picture.

01:47:52.000 I thought this was America.

01:48:00.000 This is a grain of sand in a heap.

01:48:03.000 I got no problem.

01:48:04.000 I will not impugn the honor of Dr. Shiva in doing his mathematical analysis.

01:48:08.000 He's a PhD from MIT, so I'm sure he knows way better than I do on the math end of things.

01:48:12.000 But it's not a winning argument in court.

01:48:14.000 There you go.

01:48:14.000 It's a it's a waste of the court's time and it's not going to get Trump any victories.

01:48:18.000 It may generate ground support.

01:48:21.000 There you go.

01:48:22.000 You know, for Trump, from people who see it and go, whoa.

01:48:25.000 But I don't I don't think it's going to I don't think what he's offering up is enough

01:48:29.000 in terms of anything effective in terms of, you know, ground victory or whatever.

01:48:34.000 I think a sworn affidavit from a poll worker saying there was fraud easily the most the

01:48:39.000 most or sworn affidavit from a voter who didn't request an absentee ballot.

01:48:44.000 Who had one cast on their behalf or their dead son, which is one of the things that

01:48:47.000 Brainerd's team is looking at.

01:48:49.000 Matt Brainerd you should check him out. 0.93

01:48:51.000 When I talk to my friends, I tell you this, if I message a friend of mine who's a progressive or like a passive liberal who voted for Biden and say, a retired Air Force general came out with this, they're going to be like, dude, shut up.

01:49:03.000 If I come out and say an MIT professor did a mathematical algorithm proving, you know, how they were flipping, they're going to say, shut up.

01:49:09.000 If I say a postal worker is on record right now with a sworn affidavit that they were backdating ballots, I can show you the video of it, of the guy saying it.

01:49:16.000 They go, really?

01:49:18.000 There's no argument against that.

01:49:20.000 You have a poll worker saying it.

01:49:22.000 You have a woman saying my dead son voted.

01:49:23.000 You have a postal worker saying it happened.

01:49:25.000 You can't argue against THE postal worker who was there saying they did this.

01:49:30.000 You can definitely argue against some guy who did a mathematical formula.

01:49:34.000 I can already hear it now.

01:49:35.000 How do I know his formula's real?

01:49:37.000 Who is this guy?

01:49:37.000 What does this even mean?

01:49:38.000 This is ridiculous. 0.88

01:49:39.000 I show you a postal worker in uniform delivering mail in a Veritas video, and the best thing the leftists I know say is, well, Veritas is lying. 0.79

01:49:46.000 You know, I think this guy that wrote Scorecard has come out and started, the developer that developed Scorecard is talking about it now.

01:49:53.000 I still don't know what kind of proof that is.

01:49:55.000 I've got to read more about that.

01:49:56.000 British monarchy.

01:49:57.000 We've known for a long time that there's programs that can flip votes.

01:50:02.000 At the DEFCON, I think, I don't know, maybe 2014 or 2016, the Hacker Convention, some kid did it in 20 minutes.

01:50:08.000 He took a die-bolt machine or whatever and flipped the votes internally with some simple code.

01:50:11.000 So we know that's possible.

01:50:13.000 We have a serious problem with proprietary voting machines, I guess.

01:50:17.000 That code should be open source.

01:50:19.000 I'm assuming it's not.

01:50:20.000 It may be.

01:50:20.000 I don't know.

01:50:21.000 I was trying to think what the solution to this would be and what I came up with while we were talking in the back of my head listening to you talk about the British monarchy and stuff.

01:50:29.000 Just kidding.

01:50:30.000 What if, to vote, you have to go on one side of the Mississippi or the other that day?

01:50:37.000 And then basically each person that crosses over the Mississippi, that's how you count the boats.

01:50:40.000 It's like the only way you can do it.

01:50:42.000 It's like literally geographically physically separate everyone into where you want to be counted and then make each person move from one or to the other and you count that until they're totally swapped.

01:50:52.000 And then you know, that's the only way I think to do it securely.

01:50:55.000 Let's do it.

01:50:55.000 Makes it easier for people closer to the Mississippi, unfortunately, but I think Something like that.

01:51:00.000 He's a threshold that everyone has to cross.

01:51:02.000 He's going to jump on me about a detail about this fantasy thing I'm talking about, but then he's going to bring up this other stuff like it's fact.

01:51:11.000 I'm just, I'm just making a statement.

01:51:14.000 Um, I like your idea of crossing a threshold, making everyone, you know, have some sort of acknowledgement.

01:51:19.000 Like picking softball teams, like Trump stands on one side and we get 70 million people here and Biden on the other, 70 million people here.

01:51:25.000 And then they go, okay, you, I pick you, you vote for me.

01:51:27.000 Come over here to my side.

01:51:29.000 And then Biden goes, okay, tru-na-na, shaba-da-pressure.

01:51:32.000 Uh, we got a super chat from Doobie McNasty.

01:51:34.000 He says, I'm sorry, you spelled it wrong, Doobie.

01:51:38.000 It's tru-in-na-na, shaba-da-pressure.

01:51:42.000 So he says, it's the best piece of legislature that ever bat-a-calf care. 0.96

01:51:46.000 You're just mad that it works.

01:51:47.000 Face it, Tim.

01:51:48.000 I'd like you out behind Corn Pop's house and eat your little kid's lunch. 0.87

01:51:52.000 You think you got a chance?

01:51:53.000 Come on, man.

01:51:56.000 Someone posted, I'm starting to think Corn Pop wasn't such a bad guy.

01:51:59.000 He might be right.

01:52:00.000 Corn pop! 0.86

01:52:02.000 We got here from Frieden Gaming saying taxation is theft.

01:52:05.000 Indeed.

01:52:05.000 Sian Davies.

01:52:06.000 The type of taxation, right?

01:52:08.000 Says Jack Posobiec has just tweeted that the Trump campaign has released a photo of do not admit list.

01:52:12.000 Their reporting is from Philadelphia Ballot Counting Center.

01:52:16.000 Apparently 100% of the names are Republicans.

01:52:19.000 Interesting.

01:52:20.000 Do not, what was it?

01:52:21.000 Do not enter the polling place.

01:52:22.000 Do not admit.

01:52:23.000 Yeah.

01:52:23.000 What does that mean?

01:52:24.000 Oh, really?

01:52:25.000 Garhent says, oh honey, Ian.

01:52:27.000 Tell me more, Garland!

01:52:30.000 Do tell!

01:52:32.000 So, uh, Josh the Amazing Animator says, Hey Tim, are you aware of MaidenGate?

01:52:36.000 People finding out ballots had been cast under their maiden name.

01:52:40.000 I have not been able to verify anything having to do with that, and I know that they banned people who were posting it, so... Once again, it's so easy to derail people from actual arguments.

01:52:50.000 Right now, we have a woman who came forward and said her dead son voted.

01:52:53.000 Okay, answer for that.

01:52:55.000 That warrants an investigation.

01:52:57.000 What Trump would need if there was some kind of systemic alteration of votes or whatever is justification for an audit.

01:53:04.000 Okay, a glitch in Michigan that justifies an audit.

01:53:06.000 Let's focus all our energy on a machine flipped votes from Trump to Biden.

01:53:10.000 Whoa, we better audit all of these machines.

01:53:13.000 Instead, what are we getting?

01:53:15.000 Maidengate.

01:53:16.000 Well, fortunately, I think we're getting... Maidengate, and Hammer, and Scorecard, and things that have nothing to do with Trump's actual... That's because I'm on the show, man.

01:53:22.000 If, you know, we're getting... True that.

01:53:24.000 You've got a million-person audience, and we're getting the stuff that you're investigating, thankfully.

01:53:29.000 At least I am, for the most part.

01:53:31.000 Let's see.

01:53:32.000 William Keller says, don't have a lot of money for chats, please read.

01:53:35.000 We should count-vote like a blackjack table in Vegas with cameras everywhere.

01:53:38.000 Indeed.

01:53:39.000 Yeah, why don't we have cameras?

01:53:39.000 We should do them in the casino.

01:53:40.000 Why don't we have cameras everywhere?

01:53:41.000 Everywhere.

01:53:42.000 In a casino.

01:53:43.000 I mean, they should do it in a casino because there's so many cameras all around.

01:53:46.000 Yeah, good idea.

01:53:46.000 I hear there's smart cities in China where they have two cameras for every person, and this is something Ben Stewart was talking about at the election night party, and that it'll get to a point, or maybe it already is, where you walk outside and say, Uber, and either a camera sees you or a microphone hears you and an Uber comes and picks you up.

01:54:03.000 120 cities in China are already like that.

01:54:05.000 Wow.

01:54:06.000 Unconfirmed, but that is terrifying.

01:54:08.000 We have Hellbound Wolf saying, I spent a year in Penn State Wilkes-Barre into 2009.

01:54:13.000 I remember watching a movie in a sociology class.

01:54:15.000 A guest speaker came in with a video that was almost a documentary about rape culture on colleges, and it had anonymous guys talking about drugging the girls at parties.

01:54:25.000 Yeah, that happens.

01:54:27.000 I think that was in reference to Brett Kavanaugh.

01:54:29.000 Might have been.

01:54:31.000 Or like a weird tangential reference to the Podesta email conversation we were having.

01:54:38.000 Yes, I've seen this.

01:54:39.000 I've also seen Benford's Law and the change anomalies.

01:54:41.000 race feature. As the R vote increased down ballot in the Michigan County, the number

01:54:45.000 of Trump votes decreased. Yes, I've seen this. I've also seen Benford's law and the change

01:54:49.000 anomalies. But again, these things may be great for people who are all already looking

01:54:55.000 for reasons to support Donald Trump.

01:54:56.000 I I would argue, having worked in fundraising and network building for non-profits, the least effective way to actually convince a regular person that you were right.

01:55:06.000 Talking about mathematical anomalies and stats and government programs.

01:55:11.000 Regular people, when you talk to them... I used to walk up to people on the street and I'd have to try and convince them to give me money for saving the rainforest or something.

01:55:18.000 First you have to convince them to stop.

01:55:19.000 That's the easiest thing to do.

01:55:20.000 Is it?

01:55:21.000 Yeah, you just walk up and go like that.

01:55:22.000 And then they stop dead in their tracks.

01:55:24.000 It's the biggest mistake these people make is saying, would you like to talk to me?

01:55:28.000 No.

01:55:28.000 You don't give them a choice.

01:55:29.000 You walk up and stick your hand out in front of them.

01:55:31.000 They shake your hand and they don't let go.

01:55:33.000 Nice to meet you.

01:55:33.000 Here's what we're doing.

01:55:34.000 And then you hand them the clipboard and they take it with the other hand and then you never take it back.

01:55:39.000 So they're standing there holding it, trying to give it to you, and you just have your hands crossed, or like in your pockets, or just down at your side.

01:55:45.000 The point is, when you're trying to convince someone, because I did this for years, and I was one of the nation's best, some of the biggest non-profits, if I went and was like, right now there's X, Y, and Z, and the government is doing this, they're gonna be like, I don't know, I'm not interested, I'm not emotionally attached to what you're saying, I don't care.

01:56:03.000 But if you make it really, really simple, like, The simple thing that I did for when I was fundraising for a homeless shelter.

01:56:09.000 You have all these people desperately trying to say, every night there are three kids, you know, that we see in the street.

01:56:14.000 People are like, yeah, okay.

01:56:15.000 That's not what I would say.

01:56:16.000 You know what I would say to people?

01:56:18.000 I would stop them and shake their hand and say, I'm not going to read this to you.

01:56:22.000 I want you to hear me.

01:56:23.000 I want you to imagine.

01:56:26.000 You have no parents.

01:56:27.000 Think about your parents.

01:56:28.000 You don't have them.

01:56:29.000 And you're sleeping under a bridge.

01:56:31.000 You're in your filth.

01:56:33.000 No one cares about you. 0.97

01:56:34.000 You have nothing.

01:56:36.000 And then one day, someone walks up and you look up, and through the light from the sun, you see them reach out a hand and they say, I'm here for you.

01:56:45.000 I'm that person.

01:56:47.000 You reach out and you grab their hand.

01:56:48.000 They pull you up.

01:56:49.000 You can be that person.

01:56:51.000 You can rescue these kids.

01:56:53.000 They write me checks all day and night.

01:56:54.000 Dude, sign me up.

01:56:55.000 I'm ready.

01:56:56.000 But when you come out and you're like, every night we see 12 children who have, you know, found no place to live.

01:57:02.000 Now, it doesn't work.

01:57:04.000 It works for some people.

01:57:05.000 Some people are like, oh, that's sad.

01:57:06.000 12 kids.

01:57:06.000 Here's money.

01:57:07.000 No, you tell them.

01:57:08.000 You make them experience.

01:57:09.000 You make them feel that.

01:57:10.000 You say, I want you to imagine yourself sleeping in the dirt.

01:57:14.000 No one loves you.

01:57:15.000 Think about what these kids must feel.

01:57:17.000 You can be that hand.

01:57:19.000 I had one lady write me a check for $700 on the spot. 1.00

01:57:22.000 I want you to imagine.

01:57:23.000 Yes.

01:57:24.000 I want you to feel it.

01:57:25.000 Beautiful.

01:57:26.000 Imagine what that must feel like.

01:57:28.000 Now imagine what it would feel like if a hand reached out to lift you out of that and said, I will save you.

01:57:34.000 I'm here for you.

01:57:35.000 I love you.

01:57:36.000 Tim is working on me.

01:57:37.000 I'm not, I'm not kidding.

01:57:39.000 Like you're, you know, you were looking right at me when he did that and like, I could feel the stir.

01:57:44.000 I could feel the stirring.

01:57:45.000 I felt like I was in a rainforest.

01:57:48.000 That's a convincing argument.

01:57:50.000 That's a direct way that I can see my benefits, my actions helping somebody else. 0.95

01:57:54.000 Damn right, dude. 0.77

01:57:55.000 I'm going to write this down. 0.95

01:57:55.000 Good. 0.95

01:57:57.000 In the instance of voter fraud and stuff, it's really hard to make someone feel in that same way, right?

01:58:01.000 Fundraising for a nonprofit is easy.

01:58:04.000 Telling them, I want you to imagine this experience happening to you and now we must stop it makes them kind of, you know, Well, that's what the Democrats have been doing this whole time.

01:58:10.000 I want you to imagine that you're living under the guise of Hitler and that totalitarianism is coming. 0.58

01:58:14.000 I want you to imagine that the world is ending.

01:58:16.000 I want you to imagine that the Russians took over our government. 0.92

01:58:20.000 Exactly.

01:58:21.000 What are you going to do?

01:58:22.000 As a lawyer, it's not your job to make them feel it, fortunately, when it comes to the voter scandal.

01:58:27.000 They just got to inform them and let the judges do the right thing.

01:58:30.000 It's a it's so when I'm talking about the convincing people to listen and open up, it's kind of the other end of this. 0.99

01:58:37.000 If you walked up to someone and said, listen to me, you moron, you are going to help the kids. 0.99

01:58:43.000 They'd be like, get out of my face. 1.00

01:58:44.000 How dare you?

01:58:45.000 So if you approach someone from this position of jargon, esoteric concepts, and unfamiliar ideas, they will in no way ever relate to anything you're saying and it's confusing to them.

01:58:56.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

01:58:58.000 This sounds weird.

01:58:59.000 I saw it in a movie or something. 0.99

01:59:01.000 This dude's crazy. 0.97

01:59:02.000 And that is the most effective way to shut down the opportunity. 0.99

01:59:06.000 It ultimately doesn't matter.

01:59:07.000 I mean, Trump needs support if he's actually going to file these legal challenges.

01:59:10.000 He's raising money and stuff.

01:59:11.000 But in the end, he's got his legal arguments.

01:59:13.000 If they make sense, they make sense.

01:59:15.000 What needs to happen is that people focus on Trump's actual claims.

01:59:19.000 The media is telling you there's no evidence of fraud.

01:59:21.000 There's no evidence of fraud. 1.00

01:59:23.000 And then people on the left all laugh about how stupid Trump is. 1.00

01:59:25.000 You know, he's got no evidence. 1.00

01:59:27.000 There was this post by Chris Evans, because Fox News is really dumb. 0.76

01:59:31.000 Chris Evans is filming a Fox News bit, and it's John Roberts, I think. 0.61

01:59:36.000 Is that his name, the reporter, John Roberts?

01:59:37.000 Is that his name?

01:59:38.000 Yeah, that's his name.

01:59:39.000 He's like, now the Trump campaign says not all of the legal ballots have been counted, and not all of the illegal ballots have been excluded.

01:59:47.000 The only thing standing in their way is evidence, for which they've presented none.

01:59:50.000 And then Chris Evans starts laughing, and then he tweets it, thinking he's all smart.

01:59:53.000 And that is the emotional response. 1.00

01:59:55.000 Haha, they're so dumb. 1.00

01:59:57.000 Look at me. 1.00

01:59:58.000 I'm like you.

01:59:59.000 That's what he was basically saying to people.

02:00:00.000 Look how smart I am. 1.00

02:00:01.000 Fox News is stupid. 1.00

02:00:03.000 Fox News was, or Trump was stupid. 1.00

02:00:04.000 The problem was Trump's lawsuit about illegal ballots being excluded had nothing to do with fraud. 1.00

02:00:09.000 It had everything to do with improperly counted ballots.

02:00:12.000 Fox News got it wrong and created this ridiculous statement that made no sense.

02:00:16.000 And the media keeps doing this. 0.91

02:00:18.000 And then these leftists all get in their minds.

02:00:20.000 There's no fraud.

02:00:23.000 Even though there is evidence of fraud, whether it's widespread or not, I don't, you know, is an argument, but there's Trump's legal claim isn't even about fraud.

02:00:30.000 For the most part, there's fraud arguments from Trump.

02:00:32.000 Mostly peaceful election.

02:00:34.000 That's what it's been.

02:00:37.000 Let's see.

02:00:38.000 I'mma tweet that later.

02:00:39.000 99% Scott Ward says, Problem.

02:00:42.000 Dems cheat by watching the vote tally and then magically find enough votes to win.

02:00:46.000 Solution.

02:00:46.000 Use glitchy software to short count your own vote tally.

02:00:49.000 Let them cheat against those false margins.

02:00:51.000 Reveal the real count and the fraud 4D chess.

02:00:54.000 Well, the issue here is if that's true, it's because we did, um, we, we, we did, we counted the votes in the day and then we stopped and then we waited for a week, you know, or whatever, like five days to then count the rest of the votes.

02:01:06.000 The official reason is that absentee ballots... This is really, really funny.

02:01:11.000 Let me ask you.

02:01:12.000 Why is it that we were able to count in-person votes by the millions in one day, but absentee ballots, it took us a week to count?

02:01:21.000 What's the reason?

02:01:23.000 Don't know.

02:01:23.000 That's a good question, Tim.

02:01:24.000 You know what the official reason is?

02:01:26.000 Tell me.

02:01:27.000 You mean it's how it should be?

02:01:28.000 ballots are different. We have to match signatures. We have to go through the secrecy ballot.

02:01:32.000 It's very different from in-person voting. So it takes longer.

02:01:36.000 You mean it's how it should be?

02:01:37.000 And you know what that means? It violates the 14th Amendment.

02:01:40.000 Because it's different.

02:01:42.000 Yes. Not the same process for people. And thus, that's Trump's argument. Or at least

02:01:46.000 one of the arguments.

02:01:47.000 I mean, of all the things I've heard, the procedural stuff, that one's... I'm no lawyer.

02:01:52.000 That one seemed to have a little bit of weight.

02:01:54.000 I don't know, though.

02:01:55.000 I don't know, because the argument could be that, fundamentally, it's not about whether the security process is the same, but is there a security process, right?

02:02:03.000 So you can argue, everyone who comes in this building must go through security.

02:02:07.000 There's a metal detector, and there's a guy frisking people.

02:02:10.000 But if you come in, it's equal that they both went through a security process.

02:02:13.000 In that capacity, a mail-in ballot may have a security feature and an in-person ballot, an in-person vote has a security feature, and that makes them equal.

02:02:22.000 Depending on what the court decides.

02:02:23.000 Yeah, but you know what?

02:02:23.000 A deadline is not, that's not the same thing.

02:02:26.000 Oh yeah, oh definitely.

02:02:27.000 A deadline.

02:02:28.000 There is a deadline, and it's this day.

02:02:30.000 Yep.

02:02:30.000 And it should be the same for everybody, regardless of how you get your vote into the ballot box.

02:02:34.000 So that's why backdating is so important.

02:02:37.000 This, uh, this USPS whistleblowers claim, because I mean, honestly, perhaps Trump should have let them take the extra three days and not challenged it.

02:02:46.000 Because then if the backdating is true, all the ballots that came in that would have beaten Trump, that would have, you know, pushed Biden over the edge would have came after election day.

02:02:53.000 And then Trump could have launched a 14th amendment claim.

02:02:57.000 Whatever, we'll see if it plays out.

02:02:58.000 I think it's still, you know, particularly slim chance.

02:03:03.000 Someone said, don't ever take Ian out.

02:03:06.000 He is our hippie Alex Jones.

02:03:08.000 That's exactly it.

02:03:10.000 Love it.

02:03:11.000 What is this?

02:03:14.000 Very nice.

02:03:15.000 Someone said something.

02:03:16.000 Super chat.

02:03:16.000 Oh, yeah, here we go.

02:03:17.000 BD says, Ian, you are the ultimate woke.

02:03:21.000 Awakened.

02:03:21.000 I prefer awakened.

02:03:22.000 Yes.

02:03:22.000 Someone said Ian is right but has the wrong religion.

02:03:25.000 Oh gosh.

02:03:26.000 These people are paying to give you compliments.

02:03:28.000 Oh, that's wonderful.

02:03:29.000 Thank you.

02:03:30.000 What is your religion, guys?

02:03:31.000 Oh gosh.

02:03:32.000 Math?

02:03:33.000 Math.

02:03:33.000 Math is my religion.

02:03:35.000 All right, here we go.

02:03:38.000 Dogs of War says Trump just made his case for voter ID even if he loses the election.

02:03:41.000 Indeed.

02:03:42.000 And that's another big point too.

02:03:43.000 Trump's goal might not be to actually stage a coup or whatever.

02:03:46.000 He might be planning to leave and he might be making sure that when he leaves he scorched earths the voting process in such a way Democrats can no longer use these manipulative tactics or changing the rules.

02:03:59.000 Last-minute mail-in ballots?

02:04:00.000 Nope.

02:04:00.000 Fourteenth Amendment.

02:04:01.000 It may turn out the Supreme Court says Okay, you can't do this.

02:04:06.000 We need to make sure we have a uniform system in place.

02:04:08.000 Trump still loses, but the next go-around?

02:04:11.000 No mail-in ballots.

02:04:12.000 No universal mail-in ballots.

02:04:13.000 I don't think we should ever do these again.

02:04:16.000 This was so chaotic.

02:04:17.000 It was so obvious it was going to be chaos, you know?

02:04:20.000 All right, here we go.

02:04:21.000 Antone Maxson says, did anyone realize the Trump Accountability Project sounds like a bad bartender who just read about the Reign of Terror and the Law of Suspects and said, hey, let's play Among Us.

02:04:31.000 Great show, by the way.

02:04:32.000 Is there a beanie club?

02:04:33.000 Ian and Lydia need one.

02:04:34.000 True.

02:04:35.000 Oh, well, you know, me and Jack, you know, we're chilling.

02:04:37.000 Yeah.

02:04:38.000 It's freezing in here.

02:04:40.000 Although I would wear a beanie.

02:04:41.000 It's cold, right?

02:04:43.000 Dean Badger says, here, this is for the kid under the bridge.

02:04:46.000 I mean, that is the biggest thing.

02:04:48.000 Not the biggest.

02:04:49.000 A big issue is that Trump's foreign policy gains are going to be just thrown in the trash.

02:04:54.000 I mean that is the biggest thing is that the not the biggest a big issue is that Trump's foreign policy gains

02:05:00.000 are going to They have already said that Joe Biden is going to take a

02:05:04.000 more traditional approach to world relations. Yeah excited

02:05:10.000 Looking forward to that.

02:05:11.000 Daniel Benavides says, what about an online voting system that has multiple verification

02:05:15.000 from all sides?

02:05:16.000 I.E. your personal info proves your creds and you get a random third party code.

02:05:20.000 Confirmation for candidate via their own codes you get privately.

02:05:24.000 Oh, interesting.

02:05:27.000 What if, uh, I don't know if that would work, but I do like the idea of having to request

02:05:32.000 your ballot.

02:05:33.000 That was the big problem with universal mail-in votes that I think could theoretically have an unequal treatment that people who didn't even decide to vote got ballots versus people who have to choose to vote go in person.

02:05:45.000 That could arguably create an unequal system because the average person might say, I don't feel like going and voting.

02:05:52.000 But then you put a ballot in their lap and they go, I guess I'll fill it out.

02:05:55.000 You know, this is probably the election of the great mass of the lowest informed voters of all time.

02:06:01.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:06:02.000 People who wouldn't get off their butt to go vote during the day because they just don't care at all. 0.99

02:06:02.000 Right. 0.99

02:06:07.000 They get it in the mail and they're like, I'm sure I'll just vote.

02:06:09.000 But this is Nevada.

02:06:10.000 Nevada is the only swing state that did this.

02:06:12.000 I'm pretty sure.

02:06:13.000 Yeah.

02:06:13.000 Pennsylvania did have a lot more absentee ballots though.

02:06:16.000 So I think, I think in those states you still have to request it.

02:06:19.000 I'm not entirely sure.

02:06:20.000 That super chat was kind of cool.

02:06:21.000 He was talking about a third party code.

02:06:24.000 Yeah.

02:06:25.000 Verification.

02:06:26.000 Bloodthirsty says, does Tim have hair?

02:06:28.000 The answer is No.

02:06:29.000 A little.

02:06:31.000 Facial hair, sometimes.

02:06:32.000 I know, it's gorgeous.

02:06:33.000 Levi Meads says, oh it just jumped on me, where'd it go?

02:06:37.000 All my leftist friends that voted for Biden own guns.

02:06:40.000 Most of them either don't know his stance on guns or they do and just ignore it.

02:06:43.000 To fit in, Frisco, Texas has become the California in Texas due to the large influx of CA businesses moving here.

02:06:51.000 You know, one thing that I think people don't realize, we talked about this the other day, there's one really simple solution for the results of this election.

02:06:58.000 COVID and the riots moved people around in random and weird ways.

02:07:02.000 So you end up with higher voter registration in certain areas, you end up with certain counties swinging, you know, like all the bellwethers were wrong.

02:07:08.000 Do you see this?

02:07:09.000 Yes.

02:07:09.000 So the bellwether towns are the towns that, like, historically, whoever they vote for ends up winning, just for whatever reason.

02:07:16.000 And this time around, most of them, or at least a large portion, were wrong.

02:07:20.000 And so everyone's like, that's weird.

02:07:22.000 Yes, but what if a bunch of people move to random places in the past year due to COVID and riots, and thus you get a totally altered demographic base around the country?

02:07:33.000 Maybe that was factored into the Democrats' plans with mail-in voting.

02:07:37.000 They knew it was going to happen, and they wanted to, you know, target it.

02:07:40.000 I don't know.

02:07:43.000 We may never know.

02:07:45.000 Dun-dun-dun-dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Will Stokes says, Tim, what do you think of blockchain voting?

02:07:45.000 Yeah.

02:08:05.000 Even though it may be difficult to secure the actual internet connection.

02:08:08.000 And then SP also said the same thing.

02:08:10.000 What about blockchain voting?

02:08:14.000 I like the idea of the public ledger, I suppose, but what's to stop someone from forging several votes and putting them in the blockchain?

02:08:22.000 I don't know.

02:08:23.000 It's probably not perfect, but better than mail-in votes?

02:08:28.000 I think it's probably worse.

02:08:32.000 Paper ballots are a physical ballots are a security feature.

02:08:35.000 I would think you would need to sign up online and then get a piece of paper mailed to you and then have to fill it out and mail it in and then they would allow you to vote on the blockchain.

02:08:45.000 But the mail-in voting function is the easiest to exploit.

02:08:49.000 You get a bunch of fake ballots, and you pep them around through different post offices, and then there's no chain of custody.

02:08:53.000 You don't know where they went, where they came from.

02:08:54.000 For the blockchain?

02:08:55.000 Wait, I'm talking about blockchain voting.

02:08:56.000 Right, so you said you had to mail in something.

02:08:58.000 Yeah, like you sign up online, and then they're like, okay, we will mail you your confirmation of your sign-up in seven days.

02:09:03.000 Oh, okay, right.

02:09:04.000 So you get it, you fill it out, you sign it, you mail it back, and then they're like, now you have access to your blockchain voting database.

02:09:11.000 And you could vote on the blockchain at the polling places.

02:09:14.000 I think in person.

02:09:15.000 So same place you would go and do your paper ballot, you would vote, and it would just go on the blockchain.

02:09:19.000 So you vote in person?

02:09:19.000 In person.

02:09:20.000 You do both.

02:09:21.000 No, I think it should be in-person paper ballots.

02:09:23.000 Dude, we got these, man!

02:09:25.000 Nope, it's about security.

02:09:26.000 Come on, make it easy! 0.63

02:09:27.000 No!

02:09:27.000 No, no, no.

02:09:29.000 Security is difficult.

02:09:30.000 Okay, when you're in... This is the way I explain security to people.

02:09:34.000 No.

02:09:35.000 When you go to a conflict zone, what level armor do you pick?

02:09:39.000 3A.

02:09:40.000 The best.

02:09:41.000 3A?

02:09:41.000 4.

02:09:41.000 I don't know.

02:09:41.000 Plate.

02:09:42.000 Ceramic plates.

02:09:43.000 Depends on where you're at and what level of security you need.

02:09:46.000 If you're going into an active conflict, you might not want to be wearing plates if you need to run full sprint for a long period of time for some reason.

02:09:53.000 So you might want 3A.

02:09:54.000 You might want Kevlar, maybe not plate.

02:09:56.000 Although, I think if you're in an active war, you're gonna want more than plate.

02:10:00.000 Body armor.

02:10:00.000 According to Jocko Willink, you want body armor.

02:10:03.000 So listen.

02:10:04.000 You can also go the most secure route.

02:10:06.000 That is armored vehicle.

02:10:09.000 Armored vehicle.

02:10:10.000 But guess what?

02:10:11.000 Armored vehicle can move fast.

02:10:12.000 It's bulky, but you're not going in buildings.

02:10:13.000 You have limited your ability to function in certain ways.

02:10:17.000 And you're a bigger target.

02:10:18.000 And there's still IEDs and other things that can take you out.

02:10:21.000 So when I explain this to people when I go into urban conflict, they're like, why don't you wear a helmet, goggles, and a mask all the time?

02:10:26.000 And I said, because you can choose to have, for one, making yourself a target.

02:10:32.000 Wearing a helmet, wearing a gas mask, people are going to see you.

02:10:34.000 You can't blend in with crowds or disappear, so you have to consider stealth.

02:10:38.000 You have to consider, if you're carrying this stuff around, is it going to be cumbersome?

02:10:41.000 And let me tell you, carrying around a gas mask and a helmet Yes, especially when, like, I've been in situations where I've had to walk or run 20 miles in a single day.

02:10:51.000 It's nice not to carry all that stuff.

02:10:53.000 So the more you pile on for security, the harder it becomes to move.

02:10:57.000 But I'll tell you this, if you're in a tank, you're pretty safe from, you know, if you're an armored vehicle with bulletproof glass, you're not getting shot.

02:11:04.000 So if we want good, secure elections, we have to accept there's going to be a decent amount of difficulty in getting the job done, but so be it.

02:11:11.000 The alternative is make it easy for everybody.

02:11:13.000 You make it easier for the fraud.

02:11:14.000 If you still have to sign up, use your social security card, you mail something out, they mail it to you, you do it, you mail it back, and then they give you access just to be able to push the button on your phone.

02:11:22.000 That's fine, but I'm, like, and we do that now with absentee ballots, but I'm saying, I think, in person, you go up, you go in person, they give you your paper ballot, you fill it out, you sign it, you put it in the envelope, you seal it, and then it's in the same place.

02:11:35.000 My Mississippi River solution is the only thing that's really going to work.

02:11:38.000 And as you guys are talking about it, I'm still, I'm thinking, do we get turnstiles?

02:11:42.000 Do you just send one person over this way, one at a time, all 70 million people?

02:11:47.000 How long would that take?

02:11:48.000 Will there be like carnivals?

02:11:50.000 Will there be street vendors?

02:11:51.000 People are going to fly.

02:11:52.000 Are you going to camp out?

02:11:53.000 What kind of, it'll be like Burning Man every year, but for the election on the Mississippi.

02:11:58.000 And we all start on either side.

02:12:00.000 The issue is if we did that, They would be like, okay, who's going to cross the river for Trump?

02:12:06.000 No one.

02:12:07.000 And snipers.

02:12:08.000 Nobody would do it.

02:12:09.000 They'd be like, not me.

02:12:11.000 What about thumbprint debt for your ID?

02:12:15.000 Is that just not, is that can be forged?

02:12:17.000 In-person paper ballots.

02:12:19.000 And the reason you do paper ballots is that you can audit the vote.

02:12:21.000 You can go back and say, give us that paper ballot stored and secured so we can count it.

02:12:26.000 Yeah, there should be a paper backup.

02:12:28.000 Whether you do it online, on the blockchain, or whatever, there should be paper as well that you can cross-verify.

02:12:28.000 Yes.

02:12:33.000 And I think audits should be mandatory.

02:12:35.000 Here's what we do.

02:12:37.000 You do in-person voting, they count it, and then we use a random number generator to determine which random US precinct will then recount those ballots.

02:12:45.000 Oh, yeah.

02:12:47.000 And you could have a computer do it.

02:12:49.000 You bring the people there.

02:12:50.000 So here's how it works.

02:12:51.000 We're in, you know, let's say we're in Washington, D.C., and we have a box of ballots.

02:12:55.000 We count it, and it says, you know, 100 for Joe Biden and 101 for Trump.

02:12:59.000 We say, that's our official number.

02:13:00.000 The observers have all agreed.

02:13:02.000 OK, then you seal the ballot, the box up.

02:13:05.000 A random number generator says, it's Wyoming's, you know, first congressional district or only congressional district.

02:13:12.000 And you fly out three people, a Democrat, a Republican, and a vote counter to D.C.

02:13:18.000 to walk up and they count it again.

02:13:20.000 There you go.

02:13:21.000 Are there not audits currently?

02:13:23.000 They're doing audits right now.

02:13:25.000 And not as part of the regular process?

02:13:27.000 Not as part of the regular process.

02:13:28.000 In Pennsylvania, the state Republicans have announced they're going to audit the vote.

02:13:32.000 And in Georgia, they're doing the full risk-limiting audit, recount, etc., recanvass.

02:13:37.000 Nice.

02:13:38.000 Trump's trying to get a recount in Michigan.

02:13:41.000 I believe a hand recount because of the glitch.

02:13:43.000 And that is a...

02:13:45.000 If what people are saying is true about the votes flipping, a hand recount is going to reveal a ton of these votes.

02:13:53.000 That's what Trump needs to focus on.

02:13:55.000 So that's why you don't need to talk about any of these- Don't say it!

02:13:58.000 Oh, you started to talk about it.

02:13:59.000 Right, you don't need to talk about it.

02:14:00.000 You can just say, that guy who won because the vote was glitched.

02:14:04.000 Did you hear about that Republican?

02:14:06.000 They said he lost, then the computer changed it and he won.

02:14:10.000 Yeah, here's the article.

02:14:10.000 And they go, whoa, that really happened.

02:14:13.000 And people, you're gonna tell it to your friends, they're gonna be like, really?

02:14:16.000 Now, a lot of people on the left don't wanna hear it, but regular people who aren't really paying attention might be like, really? 0.79

02:14:23.000 You talk to these diehard anti-Trump people, they're gonna be like, well, that's ridiculous, that's just, I'll give you a million excuses. 0.82

02:14:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. 0.68

02:14:29.000 All right, let's see, we got some more Super Chats.

02:14:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:14:33.000 Let's see, uh, Vallis Darkly says, Tim, why do you always wear the beanie?

02:14:37.000 For the same reason that I always wear, like, the same shirts and the same pants.

02:14:40.000 It's kind of just like, uh, I'm a cartoon character.

02:14:43.000 It's a brand thing, I guess.

02:14:44.000 It's a brand.

02:14:45.000 Yeah.

02:14:46.000 It's the beanie brand.

02:14:48.000 Someone made a mask for me.

02:14:50.000 And it's got a little beanie on it.

02:14:52.000 And I sell shirts with beanies.

02:14:53.000 It's like a thing, you know?

02:14:55.000 I didn't make it up.

02:14:56.000 It was actually someone who did marketing for Puff Daddy told me to do it.

02:15:01.000 Back during Occupy Wall Street.

02:15:03.000 And I was like, alright!

02:15:04.000 And then I roll with it.

02:15:06.000 You should start wearing a cape.

02:15:07.000 It's like Ian in his PJ pants.

02:15:09.000 Oh, dude.

02:15:09.000 Look, Tenny Ball says, you guys are overthinking this.

02:15:12.000 Everyone gets their own inner tube and there are two super tall poles.

02:15:16.000 You place your inner tube over the candidate's pole of your choosing. 0.59

02:15:19.000 Boom.

02:15:19.000 Unfraudable.

02:15:20.000 Cool.

02:15:21.000 And then we look up at the 17 mile high poles and we're like, that one's higher. 0.81

02:15:25.000 And they're like, I demand a remeasure!

02:15:27.000 And then they have to come and bring the big measuring sticks.

02:15:30.000 And then the sun bursts one of the inner tubes.

02:15:32.000 It was inner tubes below and layers of inner tubes upon inner tubes.

02:15:37.000 You would have to bury the poles and then just check to make sure that no one put little inserts in there.

02:15:46.000 Check the poles.

02:15:46.000 Yeah, there's like inflated fake inner tubes.

02:15:49.000 One starts inflating in the sunlight, and then it pushes them higher.

02:15:53.000 That's not fair!

02:15:55.000 And then it pops, and then it goes lower.

02:15:56.000 Orbital tube drop.

02:15:57.000 All right, all right.

02:15:58.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we've gone well over because we had to make up for lost time.

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02:16:11.000 I was wondering.

02:16:12.000 No one's supposed to know who's coming tomorrow.

02:16:13.000 Oh my goodness.

02:16:14.000 I know.

02:16:15.000 Yeah, Jack knows.

02:16:17.000 But we're not announcing.

02:16:19.000 It's going to be a fun... I am so excited.

02:16:21.000 ...fun show with some crazy people.

02:16:25.000 So tune in for that.

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02:16:41.000 I have a bunch of different channels.

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02:16:45.000 Hi, my name's Jack Murphy.

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02:16:54.000 JackMurphyLive.com.

02:16:55.000 JackMurphyLive anywhere.

02:16:57.000 Thank you very much.

02:16:58.000 Appreciate it.

02:16:58.000 And you had that, you had that, that was really interesting, that guy who was tracking like all of these different hosts.

02:17:03.000 Matt Brainerd.

02:17:03.000 I did an interview with Matt Brainerd, the former data chief for the Trump campaign in 2016.

02:17:08.000 Plus he has a team of former Trump Analysts, people that know this business better than anybody and they are working right now around the clock to match, to identify and investigate potential circumstances of fraud.

02:17:21.000 They have raised a half a million dollars.

02:17:22.000 They're calling two million people to verify and they're helping them form, do affidavits and declarations.

02:17:27.000 So check that out.

02:17:28.000 It's on my YouTube channel, Jack Murphy.

02:17:30.000 Crazy.

02:17:30.000 Live.

02:17:31.000 And then of course, there's Ian.

02:17:32.000 Yes.

02:17:33.000 Hi, thanks, Tim.

02:17:33.000 Follow him.

02:17:36.000 Jack, I just wanted to mention a book.

02:17:38.000 That you wrote.

02:17:38.000 A book?

02:17:39.000 Oh my god.

02:17:40.000 That I still haven't read.

02:17:40.000 Oh, snap.

02:17:41.000 But the premise sounds cool.

02:17:43.000 I didn't even bring it up tonight.

02:17:44.000 You should bring a copy in next time. 0.99

02:17:46.000 Democrats are deplorable.

02:17:47.000 Why 9 million Obama voters ditched the Democrats and embraced Donald Trump. 0.79

02:17:51.000 It is a story about 2016, but actually it's the story of 2020.

02:17:54.000 It's the story of America in the 21st century and the re-sorting politically that we're having.

02:17:59.000 Stories about people like me, people like you, and then some real deep analysis.

02:18:04.000 It's fun.

02:18:05.000 It's a great book.

02:18:06.000 Selling well.

02:18:06.000 Five stars on Amazon.

02:18:08.000 Top seller.

02:18:09.000 Go get it.

02:18:09.000 I like it.

02:18:09.000 Democrats are deplorable.

02:18:11.000 Thank you, Ian. 0.93

02:18:11.000 Appreciate it. 0.93

02:18:12.000 And you, your book.

02:18:13.000 What was that called?

02:18:13.000 It's called Writing in the Dark, and it is also on Amazon.

02:18:17.000 I wrote it when I was going through a psychotic break in New York City.

02:18:19.000 So get that.

02:18:20.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

02:18:21.000 Who knew?

02:18:22.000 Literally no one.

02:18:23.000 You can follow me on any social network at Ian Crossland.

02:18:26.000 Did you know that? 0.99

02:18:27.000 I was kind of being a jerk. 0.99

02:18:29.000 I love it. 0.99

02:18:30.000 And then he's like, by the way, bring it on.

02:18:32.000 10,000 copies.

02:18:34.000 Thank you, Jack.

02:18:35.000 Thank you for reminding me.

02:18:36.000 I will.

02:18:36.000 And the name of your band?

02:18:38.000 Well, we have one called The Panic, I think, is our... are we able to... present company?

02:18:43.000 Well, we don't have anything yet.

02:18:44.000 It's a project that Tim and I are working on tentatively.

02:18:47.000 And the name of your hairstylist?

02:18:50.000 I do my own hair.

02:18:50.000 Oh, snap!

02:18:51.000 And your own wardrobe, definitely.

02:18:53.000 Love it.

02:18:54.000 I do.

02:18:54.000 It's pajamas.

02:18:54.000 Don't worry.

02:18:55.000 I used to weigh tables with this shirt.

02:18:56.000 Don't forget to follow Lydia.

02:18:58.000 Do you have to follow me on Twitter?

02:18:59.000 Sour Patch Lids.

02:19:00.000 Sour Patch Lids.

02:19:02.000 L-Y-D-S. 1.00

02:19:03.000 That's true, yeah.

02:19:03.000 All right, my friends.

02:19:05.000 We are going to be back tomorrow with what I can only imagine is going to be a ridiculous show.

02:19:09.000 But I think we're trying to be serious with it.

02:19:11.000 It's going to be really interesting, but it should be fairly big.

02:19:13.000 So stick around.

02:19:15.000 I'll just tell you this.

02:19:16.000 We can't talk too much about it because I don't want to get shut down.

02:19:19.000 So we're going to be poking the bear on this one.

02:19:22.000 You can't resist.

02:19:24.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:24.000 We're going to get banned.

02:19:25.000 We're going to get banned.

02:19:27.000 We got to tease.

02:19:28.000 We will see you all tomorrow.

02:19:29.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 12, 2020

Timcast IRL - Trump Staging A COUP?! Journalists Panic Over Trump's Latest Move w- Jack Murphy

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