Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump Supporter Commits Suicide After Killing BLM Rioter In Self Defense

00:00:00.000 Welcome to our...

00:00:29.000 you Oh, it's working.

00:00:31.000 Okay.

00:00:32.000 We just built a new studio, and so we have no headphones.

00:00:35.000 Headphones didn't work.

00:00:36.000 The mixer broke.

00:00:37.000 And I was like, we're just gonna go live anyway and assume that... I'm gonna assume you can hear me.

00:00:41.000 I don't know if you actually can, but we're hanging out with Cassandra Fairbanks.

00:00:44.000 Yay! 0.99

00:00:46.000 The lighting's not perfect.

00:00:48.000 I wish we could spin around and show you why it was really difficult to set up.

00:00:52.000 So we're... How does it sound so far?

00:00:54.000 Sounds great.

00:00:55.000 It sounds good?

00:00:55.000 Yeah.

00:00:56.000 I can't believe it.

00:00:56.000 Oh, wow!

00:00:57.000 We're in the middle of nowhere.

00:00:58.000 Um, and we- this was- I gotta say, man.

00:01:01.000 Thank you guys for tuning in today.

00:01:04.000 We rushed out into the middle of nowhere.

00:01:05.000 Nobody say where we are, mind you.

00:01:07.000 Nobody can know where we're at.

00:01:07.000 It's a secret.

00:01:08.000 But there's like no road to where we are.

00:01:10.000 The internet is awful.

00:01:11.000 I'm hoping that the show just works.

00:01:14.000 And this whole room was built in literally 24 hours.

00:01:17.000 Like, I can't believe we even have a desk.

00:01:20.000 And we went nuts trying to get everything set up, and it didn't work.

00:01:24.000 So Lydia has no microphone, but she does have a camera. 1.00

00:01:29.000 And we're going to hopefully get everything done in the next couple of days.

00:01:34.000 But we're going to be heading back to the original studio because we're in the process of moving back and forth, but we're going to talk about a bunch of stories today.

00:01:40.000 With Cassandra here, we have a bunch of stuff, because Cassandra basically knows everything about the culture war, conflict with the Proud Boys, Trump supporters and stuff, and we've got a whole bunch of your stories from Gateway Pundit.

00:01:51.000 And I don't like the Gateway Pundit.

00:01:53.000 I know.

00:01:54.000 You remind everybody every day.

00:01:56.000 You bring it up a lot.

00:01:57.000 I have to, though, because a lot of the stories are like...

00:02:01.000 That's a little too much.

00:02:03.000 But your stories always tend to check out, right?

00:02:04.000 A lot of your stuff is like, you've got the sources in the story.

00:02:08.000 So it's really easy when we're talking about, you're like, so the one thing I would talk about is Omaha Bar Owner.

00:02:14.000 And then you have all the videos and everything.

00:02:16.000 And I'm like, oh yeah, clearly this happened.

00:02:17.000 You have comments, the stories, the sources, the citation.

00:02:21.000 But you know, in terms of your work, I think your work is fantastic.

00:02:26.000 Thank you.

00:02:27.000 But I don't know.

00:02:28.000 Do people know that like, we've known each other for a really, really long time?

00:02:31.000 I think a lot of people know, because every time you talk about my stories, people are like, when are you going to go on Tim's show?

00:02:37.000 And I'm like, I don't know why I haven't been on Tim's show.

00:02:41.000 Because you live far away, I guess.

00:02:42.000 Well, your secret bunker is really close to my secret bunker now, though.

00:02:47.000 Relatively.

00:02:48.000 Relatively.

00:02:49.000 The other day, we were trying to get food, and they couldn't find us.

00:02:52.000 And I was like, yes!

00:02:54.000 I even gave them my address, and they're like, I have no idea where this is.

00:02:57.000 And I was like, just keep going.

00:02:58.000 Like, we turned around.

00:03:00.000 You'll never find me!

00:03:02.000 We're hanging out with Ian.

00:03:03.000 Ian's chilling here too.

00:03:03.000 Hey guys.

00:03:05.000 This is like the coolest podcast setup we have yet in the middle of nowhere with really bad internet.

00:03:09.000 And it seems to be working, which is amazing.

00:03:12.000 And smash the like button, subscribe.

00:03:14.000 I gotta be honest.

00:03:16.000 It sounds good, you're saying?

00:03:17.000 Yeah, it sounds great.

00:03:18.000 Ah, cool.

00:03:19.000 So, look, we had to do a test.

00:03:21.000 I did a test on, like, a dummy Twitch channel.

00:03:23.000 We had to try it out.

00:03:24.000 We still have, like, another monitor we gotta set up.

00:03:26.000 We got more desks we gotta set up.

00:03:27.000 We got just all this stuff that was supposed to happen, and it didn't work.

00:03:30.000 Because any of you who's ever worked audio-visual, it's magic.

00:03:30.000 Why?

00:03:35.000 Just, like, for some reason, you're like, it's plugged in, but it's not working.

00:03:37.000 And we're like, why?

00:03:38.000 I don't know.

00:03:39.000 They're saying we're getting a high-pitched tone in the audio.

00:03:44.000 You see?

00:03:47.000 And my mic is not working.

00:03:49.000 Audio is terrible.

00:03:51.000 We have no monitors, so I'm sorry guys.

00:03:54.000 We almost didn't do the show.

00:03:55.000 Yeah, we were like, we were just going to have to cancel for tonight, and I was like, we can just try and do it.

00:03:59.000 If it's not doable, then maybe we just, you know, I don't know.

00:04:03.000 What are the people saying?

00:04:04.000 High-pitched tone, ringing, buzz.

00:04:07.000 That makes no sense.

00:04:08.000 Tim is in the bunker.

00:04:10.000 I'm in the bunker.

00:04:11.000 We're in the bunker.

00:04:12.000 We're actually elevated on like the third floor.

00:04:15.000 You can hear it, though?

00:04:16.000 I can hear it.

00:04:17.000 It does sound pretty wonky, actually.

00:04:18.000 There's an echo, and I can hear that high-pitched sound that people are talking about.

00:04:22.000 Man.

00:04:23.000 How bad is it?

00:04:24.000 Well, what do you guys think we should do in chat?

00:04:26.000 I mean, it's up to you.

00:04:27.000 Obviously, you guys.

00:04:28.000 What do you think, Lydia?

00:04:30.000 Everything should have worked.

00:04:32.000 Oh, I think you got rid of the tone just then.

00:04:33.000 You did?

00:04:34.000 I pulled this thing out.

00:04:35.000 No.

00:04:35.000 What did you pull out?

00:04:37.000 I pulled some stuff out.

00:04:38.000 Oh, was that the problem?

00:04:41.000 Just pull it out.

00:04:41.000 It pulls straight out.

00:04:42.000 How does it sound?

00:04:44.000 You can still hear it.

00:04:46.000 Could be all these cables next to each other and power cables and stuff.

00:04:50.000 And there's reverb.

00:04:51.000 Yeah, it does sound terrible.

00:04:52.000 Sorry, guys.

00:04:53.000 I spoke too soon.

00:04:56.000 We tried.

00:04:59.000 They want to keep it going.

00:05:00.000 Julia, we'll just keep going.

00:05:02.000 It's doable.

00:05:02.000 Is it doable?

00:05:03.000 That's what some people are saying.

00:05:04.000 It's terrible, but doable.

00:05:05.000 Fix, please.

00:05:06.000 Fix it.

00:05:07.000 Keep it going.

00:05:07.000 Let's see.

00:05:08.000 Audio is not terrible.

00:05:11.000 Sounds like tinnitus, dog whistle.

00:05:15.000 People are saying it doesn't sound like my mic is plugged in.

00:05:17.000 Everything's plugged in.

00:05:18.000 It just really is magic for some reason.

00:05:21.000 So, like, we have an identical setup.

00:05:23.000 We built everything exactly as it is in the other studio in Philly.

00:05:28.000 But for some reason, things are just, like, not happening.

00:05:30.000 I don't know.

00:05:31.000 So what do you think?

00:05:32.000 What are they saying?

00:05:34.000 It's really hot in here.

00:05:34.000 Do you want to listen to it for a second?

00:05:35.000 Yeah.

00:05:36.000 I'm going to give Tim my headphones so he can know exactly what's going on.

00:05:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:05:43.000 My mic's not making sound.

00:05:45.000 Something's making... I don't know where it's coming through.

00:05:47.000 Well this is fun. I know, I can't hear anything. I can't see anything.

00:05:54.000 Who's the camera on right now?

00:06:04.000 Uh, it's on Ian.

00:06:05.000 Oh.

00:06:08.000 I don't know.

00:06:08.000 I don't know what's causing that problem.

00:06:12.000 Can they hear Cassandra?

00:06:14.000 You guys hear me?

00:06:15.000 Testing.

00:06:16.000 You guys hear Cassandra?

00:06:17.000 Can you talk?

00:06:21.000 Yeah, what do you want me to talk about?

00:06:23.000 It's coming through.

00:06:25.000 One, two, three.

00:06:26.000 One.

00:06:29.000 I brought Tim a Trump flag.

00:06:30.000 I'm working off of a delay, so that's why I'm not answering you guys right away.

00:06:33.000 It's a welcome present.

00:06:34.000 Yeah, you're coming through great.

00:06:36.000 Awesome.

00:06:42.000 She sounds like she's coming through the mic.

00:06:43.000 Her mic's on.

00:06:44.000 My mic's on too.

00:06:46.000 What's the difference?

00:06:47.000 I don't know, maybe we gotta turn you up.

00:06:49.000 Is your mic working?

00:06:51.000 Is your mic working?

00:06:53.000 I think so.

00:06:55.000 I think the audio levels are different.

00:06:57.000 Yours is the loudest, then mine, then Tim's maybe.

00:07:00.000 Maybe your audio's low.

00:07:02.000 I think you guys are picking up me and for some reason my mic's not coming through.

00:07:06.000 Or it's really low.

00:07:06.000 Are you coming out?

00:07:07.000 Yeah, but it's low.

00:07:09.000 Lower than her.

00:07:11.000 Really?

00:07:11.000 So I bet she's mic'd too.

00:07:13.000 Switch the first one to the fourth.

00:07:14.000 First one to the fourth?

00:07:17.000 Yep.

00:07:17.000 Your ears, children!

00:07:22.000 Man, I sympathize with you guys with that high pitch.

00:07:24.000 How's that feel?

00:07:26.000 One, two, three.

00:07:26.000 The dog whistle.

00:07:29.000 Yo.

00:07:30.000 How does it sound now?

00:07:31.000 I have a delay.

00:07:33.000 Yeah, I know.

00:07:34.000 I think you're on.

00:07:36.000 It sounds better?

00:07:37.000 Let me see if you say one, two, three.

00:07:38.000 One, two, three.

00:07:41.000 Testing.

00:07:44.000 One, two, three, four.

00:07:45.000 You know what the problem is with working 16-hour days?

00:07:48.000 Is that there's literally no break.

00:07:50.000 I can hear you.

00:07:51.000 Like normal?

00:07:52.000 Yeah, ish.

00:07:53.000 Ish?

00:07:53.000 Not that great, but normal.

00:07:54.000 Reverby?

00:07:55.000 Yeah, a little bit.

00:07:56.000 Oh, that's better.

00:07:57.000 The reverb before was because I know what the problem is.

00:08:01.000 It's the driver. 0.98

00:08:03.000 This is so ridiculous. 0.58

00:08:04.000 That means only our mics are working. 0.75

00:08:07.000 Okay.

00:08:07.000 Welcome to the problem of building a new studio, working 16-hour days, having no days off, and trying to put together content.

00:08:16.000 I tried doing a test.

00:08:18.000 There's still a high-pitched squeal though.

00:08:20.000 Yeah?

00:08:20.000 Yeah.

00:08:21.000 Can you unplug the middle one?

00:08:24.000 Yeah.

00:08:24.000 And... It's because the power cables are next to the audio cables.

00:08:32.000 I don't know.

00:08:34.000 No, just keep it unplugged.

00:08:36.000 Because it's not working anyway.

00:08:38.000 Welcome to the show, Cassandra!

00:08:42.000 Man, I don't know.

00:08:44.000 Where are we at so far?

00:08:45.000 What do you think?

00:08:47.000 The buzz, the high pitch sound's gone.

00:08:49.000 It's gone?

00:08:49.000 So we're back to normal?

00:08:51.000 I think so.

00:08:51.000 We can do a normal show!

00:08:52.000 I believe it's true.

00:08:57.000 Look, look, we had to turn it on to see if it was gonna work, and I'm like, well, we can't stream to, like, where do we stream?

00:09:04.000 You have one stream.

00:09:05.000 So, I suppose, I gotta be honest, we literally got this ready to go.

00:09:10.000 It clearly wasn't ready to go by the time we went live.

00:09:12.000 I was like, screw it, just press live, whatever, and then the audience will help us fix it.

00:09:15.000 They did.

00:09:16.000 Thank you, audience.

00:09:17.000 They can hear you.

00:09:19.000 I'm low, you can hear me.

00:09:20.000 In the echo.

00:09:22.000 Okay, so, is it working?

00:09:23.000 Yeah.

00:09:24.000 Alright, if you're just tuning in, smash that like button because we deserve it.

00:09:28.000 Let me tell you something.

00:09:30.000 I wake up early in the morning.

00:09:31.000 We're out in the middle of nowhere.

00:09:32.000 I didn't know if the internet was going to work.

00:09:33.000 We have to drive back immediately.

00:09:35.000 It's going to be several hours.

00:09:36.000 Literally, I'm going to wake up and be back because we have to continue this move.

00:09:42.000 When I work all day, every day, non-stop, it becomes practically impossible to, you know, To take time out building all this stuff.

00:09:49.000 This was legit, like we built this, like the walls are all done.

00:09:52.000 These panels behind us and everything.

00:09:53.000 It's pretty crazy.

00:09:55.000 And we don't even have, the fifth camera's not even plugged in, so we can't even show you how amazing this room is.

00:10:00.000 Anyway, how about we talk about the news?

00:10:02.000 It sounds good still?

00:10:03.000 Sounds great.

00:10:03.000 I'm waiting to hear you.

00:10:04.000 This is fantastic.

00:10:06.000 You sound awesome.

00:10:07.000 I'm hanging out with Cassandra Fairbanks.

00:10:09.000 I've known Cassandra for a really long time, and you got a bunch of stories.

00:10:15.000 Okay, we're just gonna go for it.

00:10:16.000 Let's just talk about the news.

00:10:17.000 Again, smash the like button, subscribe, notification bell.

00:10:19.000 We'll be back tomorrow, but from the original studio, so things should be normal.

00:10:23.000 And then we're gonna try and rebuild everything again, and I think we can figure out the problems.

00:10:27.000 Plus, while I'm working, we're gonna have everyone else trying to figure things out.

00:10:30.000 So, that being said, let's talk about the first story.

00:10:33.000 Now Cassandra's off. 0.98

00:10:35.000 What?

00:10:36.000 I think Cassandra's mic is not working now.

00:10:38.000 Can you talk a bit?

00:10:41.000 You're off.

00:10:43.000 What is going on?

00:10:45.000 Yeah.

00:10:47.000 Thank you, chat.

00:10:48.000 You guys are on it.

00:10:50.000 This is great because we have 22,000 people helping us troubleshoot why none of this is working.

00:10:54.000 It's the best.

00:10:55.000 It's upside down.

00:10:58.000 Okay, can you talk now?

00:11:00.000 Testing.

00:11:00.000 How's it going?

00:11:02.000 Can you hear me?

00:11:02.000 Any better?

00:11:04.000 And then the high-pitched squeal is gonna come back.

00:11:10.000 We're getting, to all the people in the super chat, thank you for paying us for the, I'm sorry, I really am, I apologize.

00:11:15.000 To be fair though, I saw this room just a couple days ago.

00:11:20.000 So the high pitch sound sounds like it's coming through your microphone.

00:11:23.000 I have an idea.

00:11:29.000 One step forward, one step back. 1.00

00:11:32.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:11:33.000 Bye! 1.00

00:11:35.000 Tim's troubleshooting, hands on.

00:11:40.000 Did it help?

00:11:42.000 I don't know yet.

00:11:44.000 Can you hear me?

00:11:45.000 Is this any better?

00:11:46.000 It's a cool room, though.

00:11:48.000 Yeah.

00:11:48.000 This room was completely different not very long ago.

00:11:53.000 I'm still on delay.

00:11:54.000 Oh, okay.

00:11:59.000 There's so much news to talk about, too.

00:12:01.000 No, it didn't help, though.

00:12:01.000 I know!

00:12:02.000 It didn't help?

00:12:03.000 Then I don't know.

00:12:03.000 No.

00:12:07.000 That's messed up.

00:12:11.000 Turn Cassandra's mic gain down. 0.80

00:12:17.000 I can speak louder.

00:12:19.000 Talk like this!

00:12:22.000 We'll do a mic check like Occupy Wall Street.

00:12:24.000 So everything you say, I'll just repeat it in slow, methodical phrases.

00:12:29.000 Is it working?

00:12:31.000 Maybe.

00:12:32.000 This is the important news you come to us for.

00:12:37.000 You guys are awesome.

00:12:37.000 Look at this.

00:12:38.000 I can't believe there's 23,000 people just like chillin' and they're like, Tim's studio's busted, but hey, it's entertaining, I guess.

00:12:43.000 It's like a high-pitched squeal.

00:12:44.000 It hurts our ears.

00:12:45.000 Okay.

00:12:46.000 It's gone.

00:12:47.000 It's gone.

00:12:48.000 Can you talk?

00:12:49.000 Can you guys hear me?

00:12:50.000 Let's find out.

00:12:50.000 Count to count.

00:12:52.000 What'd you have for breakfast?

00:12:53.000 One, two, three.

00:12:54.000 I had lots of coffee for breakfast.

00:12:56.000 Woke up at 4 a.m.

00:12:58.000 What kind of coffee?

00:13:00.000 I don't know.

00:13:00.000 I think it was one of those energy drink, cold brew things.

00:13:03.000 We have those downstairs.

00:13:06.000 What can we do? Yeah, hey, so so is this working? It sounds great. Yeah, that's ridiculous. What

00:13:14.000 an awful nightmare of building stuff. What you can't see is that straight ahead of me is like

00:13:18.000 a ladder and like, maybe we should have just said we're not ready to go live.

00:13:23.000 Maybe.

00:13:24.000 And we were like, whatever.

00:13:25.000 Who cares?

00:13:26.000 It's the internet.

00:13:27.000 It sounds really good now.

00:13:27.000 It's not like I'm on TV.

00:13:29.000 Yeah.

00:13:29.000 Cassandra, how's it going?

00:13:31.000 Good.

00:13:31.000 It's going great.

00:13:34.000 And now we're immediately going to go to like more sad news and we'll talk about a lot of Antifa stuff.

00:13:39.000 So, um, All right.

00:13:41.000 We'll just try and get back on track, I guess.

00:13:43.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:13:44.000 Smash the like button again, because we're working very hard in real time.

00:13:48.000 You're watching us.

00:13:50.000 And joining me, of course, is Cassandra Fairbanks, not for the fifth time.

00:13:53.000 And let's talk about the first story, man.

00:13:55.000 Jake Gardner.

00:13:56.000 This is a sad one.

00:13:58.000 Actually, I cover heartbreaking things every day.

00:14:01.000 Like I cover terrible things and tragedy and things that really upset me.

00:14:06.000 But this one hit me in like a completely different way.

00:14:09.000 I mean, I was sobbing while I wrote it.

00:14:11.000 I'm gonna get really angry as we talk about this, just so you know.

00:14:15.000 Jake Gardner was a small business owner.

00:14:18.000 The businesses nearby his bar were attacked.

00:14:21.000 His dad, I guess, was telling the guys, like, back off and, like, shoved one of them or something.

00:14:25.000 And then, there's a video of all this.

00:14:27.000 The dude runs up and just decks Gardner's dad.

00:14:30.000 A 70-year-old man.

00:14:31.000 70-year-old man.

00:14:33.000 So Gardner shows that he's got a weapon.

00:14:36.000 These guys start walking towards him.

00:14:39.000 And you, of course, you've seen one of the videos where you can hear the audio.

00:14:42.000 Yeah.

00:14:42.000 And he's saying, don't do it.

00:14:44.000 Right?

00:14:44.000 He's like, don't do it.

00:14:45.000 Don't do it.

00:14:45.000 He's backing up, retreating.

00:14:47.000 And they attack him.

00:14:49.000 They attack him.

00:14:51.000 They knock him into the ground.

00:14:52.000 He fell in water, I think.

00:14:53.000 Right?

00:14:53.000 He fell into like a puddle in the street.

00:14:55.000 And then this guy, I think his name is James Scurlock, correct?

00:14:58.000 Yes.

00:14:58.000 Jumps on his back with his arm around his neck.

00:15:02.000 Gardner had already warned them several times.

00:15:05.000 He fired two warning shots.

00:15:06.000 Two guys run off.

00:15:07.000 Dude jumps on his back. 0.52

00:15:08.000 And then he switches the gun to his left hand, reaches over and fires, shooting the dude in the clavicle, killing him. 0.78

00:15:15.000 They took everything from this guy.

00:15:17.000 So, I don't know, do you want to tell us, just like elaborate on the details?

00:15:20.000 Because you've been talking to his friends and stuff.

00:15:22.000 Yeah.

00:15:22.000 So, he lost his business.

00:15:24.000 He lost everything.

00:15:26.000 His apartment.

00:15:28.000 I mean, everything.

00:15:30.000 Everything was taken from him.

00:15:31.000 I mean, friends turned on him.

00:15:33.000 His whole life was uprooted, you know?

00:15:37.000 I mean, acquaintances, people that he knew, like people who went to his bar, people who worked at his bar.

00:15:42.000 All these people were coming out against him.

00:15:45.000 It was really sad because it was so clear that it was self-defense.

00:15:49.000 He got indicted.

00:15:51.000 Yeah.

00:15:52.000 Well, the district attorney originally said that this is self-defense.

00:15:55.000 It's clear-cut.

00:15:57.000 He didn't do anything wrong.

00:15:59.000 And then protesters started showing up at the district attorney's house.

00:16:02.000 They were threatening to riot.

00:16:05.000 It was a disaster.

00:16:07.000 And so the city caved in and they hired a special prosecutor.

00:16:10.000 He decided to bring it before a grand jury, came up with four charges.

00:16:14.000 I think the maximum he was going to face was 95 years.

00:16:18.000 And it's just outrageous.

00:16:20.000 The day he was supposed to turn himself in, they found him reportedly with a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

00:16:25.000 Yeah.

00:16:25.000 And 20 minutes from Portland.

00:16:27.000 What was he doing on the West Coast?

00:16:30.000 Well, he had lost everything, so I've heard that he was staying with his uncle out on the West Coast.

00:16:37.000 That's crazy.

00:16:39.000 So the landlord kicked him out?

00:16:41.000 Yeah.

00:16:41.000 I hope that landlord never rents that property again.

00:16:43.000 And the landlord for the bar, the bar where he was leasing, or the building he was leasing.

00:16:47.000 That's what I mean, yeah.

00:16:48.000 But his apartment, too.

00:16:49.000 He got kicked out of his apartment?

00:16:50.000 Yeah.

00:16:51.000 Wow!

00:16:52.000 Wow.

00:16:53.000 And GoFundMe shut his defense down.

00:16:55.000 Yep, but you can raise all the bail money you want for rioters.

00:16:59.000 Kamala Harris can ask for bail money for the rioters.

00:17:01.000 Yeah.

00:17:02.000 This is why we're in the middle of nowhere, and why we actually struggled to get the stream going today, and why Ian can't talk, and why Lydia can't talk either, because the mics aren't working.

00:17:09.000 I think my mic's working.

00:17:11.000 You think it's working?

00:17:11.000 I think so, yeah.

00:17:12.000 Are you sure?

00:17:13.000 Yeah.

00:17:13.000 Well, I mean, I think... Here, talk.

00:17:16.000 I think your mic is working.

00:17:24.000 People are like, Ian, we can hear you.

00:17:26.000 But we can't hear ourselves.

00:17:28.000 Anyway, we're past all of that.

00:17:30.000 We're in the middle of nowhere.

00:17:31.000 We're in the middle of nowhere because this is not the first time we saw a story of someone being attacked by the mob And this is the craziest thing.

00:17:40.000 This dude was retreating, backing away, don't do it, and then he fired warning shots.

00:17:44.000 He clearly did not want to hurt anybody.

00:17:47.000 The craziest thing about the indictment of this guy is that they claimed that it was the use of a firearm while committing a felony, and the felony was terroristic threats.

00:17:55.000 And the terroristic threats were him saying, don't do it, back away.

00:18:00.000 And that he was on fire patrol, like making sure that his building didn't burn down.

00:18:05.000 Yep.

00:18:05.000 Like, what planet are we on?

00:18:08.000 What country are we in?

00:18:09.000 This happened to you.

00:18:10.000 Yeah.

00:18:11.000 They came to your house.

00:18:13.000 And then their allies and media desperately tried to claim you made it up.

00:18:16.000 Yeah, they ran cover for the people who came to my house.

00:18:19.000 They were like, oh, they just shot fireworks down the street.

00:18:21.000 Like, you know where I lived.

00:18:22.000 Yep.

00:18:23.000 I was not in downtown.

00:18:25.000 I wasn't in a very city area.

00:18:29.000 Relative to this.

00:18:31.000 We're gone.

00:18:32.000 We're in the mountains now.

00:18:33.000 But, I mean, they claimed to have talked to my neighbors, said that it didn't happen, when in reality, like, Alan Bakari from Breitbart and my boyfriend went and talked to my neighbors, and they were like, no, we didn't talk to any right wing watch.

00:18:53.000 And they were like, no, we like you.

00:18:54.000 We came to your Halloween party.

00:18:55.000 Why would we trash you?

00:18:57.000 And they were the only house with a BLM sign in their window.

00:18:59.000 So it was like, you made up this entire story to run cover for people who just terrorized my child.

00:19:04.000 To specify, what exactly happened?

00:19:07.000 I know a little bit about it.

00:19:09.000 So I was trolling pretty hard on Twitter, admittedly.

00:19:13.000 I went pretty hard during the riots.

00:19:16.000 And the night that they burnt down the church in DC, People had posted my address and my phone number, and they were threatening to come to my house.

00:19:26.000 They were threatening me.

00:19:26.000 They were threatening my child.

00:19:28.000 And I was pretty nervous about it, but I had gotten this kind of stuff a lot before, so I was like, whatever, it'll be fine.

00:19:34.000 You know, I'm just gonna keep a loaded gun next to my bed, but no big deal.

00:19:38.000 4 a.m.

00:19:39.000 Hits the writers pretty much dispersed and then all of a sudden my whole house just like lights up from all sides and They they were shooting commercial-grade fireworks in my house I mean, I thought it was gunshots, but they said later that you know, they it was probably just the really large fireworks but then they started banging on my windows and How did they find out where you lived?

00:20:02.000 Uh, through subpoenas that get posted online from people trying to get my conversations with Julian Assange, actually.

00:20:09.000 But that's a whole other story.

00:20:12.000 Are these people pro-Assange?

00:20:14.000 I don't even understand.

00:20:14.000 No.

00:20:16.000 Are they pro-anything?

00:20:17.000 No.

00:20:18.000 It's such a weird... They just want to tear everything down.

00:20:20.000 Yep.

00:20:21.000 I know.

00:20:22.000 Yeah.

00:20:23.000 I have no other way to explain it.

00:20:24.000 So, I'll tell you a funny story.

00:20:25.000 I was in a conversation with some buddies.

00:20:28.000 You know, like Ian, we share a living space along with many other people.

00:20:33.000 And so, the day that happened, the morning, No, no, it was like afternoon.

00:20:37.000 Okay, but the day.

00:20:38.000 It was the afternoon.

00:20:39.000 And I was talking to everybody and I was like, listen man, things are getting spicy.

00:20:43.000 Okay, so you need to understand that the show that I do, the people that we have come through here and stuff, this is probably gonna be a target too.

00:20:52.000 Like, you were trolling pretty hard.

00:20:54.000 Not like you deserved it or anything like that.

00:20:56.000 But, you know, I don't.

00:20:58.000 And so, I was just like, I don't think it matters.

00:21:00.000 I think they'll come for you when they decide.

00:21:02.000 Whether it's now because Cassandra's pushing back, or because I do a story they don't like.

00:21:06.000 And general sentiment, I guess, from everybody was like, OK, you know, we'll see, whatever, sure.

00:21:13.000 And then the next day, I took a bunch of my recurve bows and I, like, just propped them up, got them ready.

00:21:20.000 And the general sentiment was, what's going on?

00:21:23.000 And the general response was, they showed up to Cassandra Fairbanks's house.

00:21:27.000 They were banging on windows, they were firing fireworks at it, and it's only a matter of time before they start targeting lesser, like, I don't want to say lesser known in regards to us because we're not like mainstream media or anything, but like Tucker Carlson's like the top tier biggest cable channel, period.

00:21:43.000 Our cable show.

00:21:44.000 So they went to his house.

00:21:45.000 Right.

00:21:46.000 Now they're going to other people's houses.

00:21:47.000 It's going to keep moving in.

00:21:48.000 The window of acceptable discourse where you're safe from this is going to get smaller and smaller.

00:21:54.000 Chat's asking to turn Cassandra up a little bit, and when you have it, point it right at your face.

00:21:59.000 Is this better?

00:22:00.000 Yeah, speak into it like it's a tube.

00:22:01.000 Also, I have tooth aligners in, so I'm talking terribly.

00:22:05.000 I'm sorry.

00:22:06.000 This is the problem of not having headphones.

00:22:08.000 Because you can hear yourself, and then you're like, oh, I'm really quiet.

00:22:11.000 And when you don't have it, you know.

00:22:13.000 But we're in the middle of nowhere, having trouble with setting up the studio simply because... I mean, I gotta be honest, it's a combination of I work too much.

00:22:21.000 If I took one day off, we could have built the studio properly.

00:22:24.000 But I'm like, no!

00:22:24.000 I'm gonna keep working.

00:22:25.000 I have another studio downstairs.

00:22:27.000 And getting away from the cities because this is happening.

00:22:30.000 And as things have gotten crazier and crazier, I'm just like, dude, I'm not having it.

00:22:36.000 I know I've said it a million times, but it's not just this Omaha bar owner.

00:22:39.000 They went to that guy's house in Milwaukee.

00:22:41.000 Let's talk about this guy in Milwaukee.

00:22:43.000 So, uh, what was the story?

00:22:47.000 He was a racist? 0.91

00:22:49.000 Well, they claim that he was racist, but he got into a fight with his black neighbor. 0.70

00:22:54.000 Don't know what it was about.

00:22:55.000 I'm assuming it was some kind of, like, neighborhood dispute about the yard or whatever.

00:22:59.000 She told a bunch of people on social media that he was racist, and there's this protest group in Milwaukee, and they're throwing, like, I think it's justice protest parties or something.

00:23:12.000 And what it is is they're doxing people, posting their addresses in this group, and showing up on their front lawns to protest and terrify them and intimidate them and threaten them.

00:23:21.000 I mean, they were outside his house for three hours screaming threats into a bullhorn.

00:23:26.000 This is a regular guy?

00:23:27.000 Yeah, regular guy.

00:23:28.000 They said he's a racist.

00:23:29.000 So three hours in front of his house, and he got arrested.

00:23:32.000 Yep.

00:23:33.000 And the police were like nowhere to be found.

00:23:34.000 They were streaming the whole time, proudly streaming themselves, threatening him.

00:23:39.000 And he's sitting inside his house, didn't confront them, didn't say anything to them, but he visibly had a shotgun.

00:23:45.000 Yeah.

00:23:45.000 He pointed at the window.

00:23:47.000 I don't think he opened the window though.

00:23:48.000 Yeah, I'm not even sure if he really, like, pointed it or if he was, like, adjusting his position.

00:23:52.000 Like, maybe he was moving, getting off his elbow.

00:23:54.000 It wasn't like he was, like... I think he pointed it.

00:23:57.000 I don't know.

00:23:57.000 I think he pointed it.

00:23:58.000 I don't care if he did, personally.

00:23:59.000 Right.

00:24:00.000 Like, get off my lawn.

00:24:02.000 I'm that lady, so...

00:24:03.000 So there's so much here that is deeper than just this story.

00:24:08.000 And first, I'll just say, my biggest criticism is how the media runs defense all the time, non-stop.

00:24:16.000 So these mobs that have been showing up and doing this, they've gone to other houses where, in one instance, they almost burnt it to the ground.

00:24:25.000 They set it on fire, and there was a mob outside.

00:24:27.000 Two people got shot.

00:24:29.000 I shouldn't say people, two teenagers, 14-year-olds, got shot during this, like, They were looking for missing girls that weren't actually missing.

00:24:35.000 This is the same group, too.

00:24:36.000 Same group.

00:24:37.000 Same group.

00:24:38.000 Same guy.

00:24:39.000 Same community activist.

00:24:41.000 And so that's the point.

00:24:42.000 So imagine you're sitting at home.

00:24:43.000 It's Saturday night.

00:24:44.000 You cracked open a couple brews.

00:24:45.000 You're watching the game.

00:24:47.000 That guy probably was not watching the game.

00:24:48.000 He's probably watching Netflix or something.

00:24:50.000 What's on Amazon?

00:24:50.000 I don't know.

00:24:51.000 No.

00:24:51.000 No Netflix.

00:24:52.000 Netflix?

00:24:52.000 No Netflix.

00:24:53.000 He got rid of Netflix.

00:24:54.000 He's got a Trump flag.

00:24:54.000 That guy got rid of Netflix for sure.

00:24:55.000 Yeah, he got rid of Netflix.

00:24:56.000 He had a Trump flag in front of his house.

00:24:58.000 The mob shows up.

00:24:59.000 It's the same guy who was at the other house where they shot two kids and they set fire to the house twice.

00:25:05.000 And so what's he thinking?

00:25:06.000 He grabs his gun.

00:25:07.000 Right.

00:25:08.000 Then they say because he was drunk.

00:25:10.000 And so, this is something that Lydia brought up, it's a really good point.

00:25:12.000 Imagine you're chilling at home and you're drinking, and you're not wasted but you have a couple beers, and then a mob shows up and threatens your safety.

00:25:19.000 I'm not saying that the rioters or the Black Lives Matter people are gonna break in or anything, I'm just saying.

00:25:24.000 Let's imagine a scenario where you happen to have been drinking when someone's about to break into your house.

00:25:29.000 If you defend your house then, are they gonna say, oh, you're drunk, sorry.

00:25:32.000 Yeah, it's insane.

00:25:33.000 Even if he was wasted, he should be able to defend his house.

00:25:37.000 It's just incredible to me.

00:25:39.000 It seems like because they were on the street and not on his property.

00:25:42.000 They definitely entered onto his property.

00:25:44.000 Oh, they did?

00:25:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:45.000 They were definitely on his lawn at several points.

00:25:48.000 Wow.

00:25:48.000 Like, they were not, you know, respecting property boundaries or anything.

00:25:52.000 They don't believe in property.

00:25:53.000 Yeah.

00:25:54.000 Did you see that Black Lives Matter removed their mission statement?

00:25:58.000 No, I did not.

00:25:58.000 Yeah, it's gone from their website apparently.

00:26:00.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:26:01.000 That was the only thing I had on their side.

00:26:03.000 Their mission statement?

00:26:04.000 Yeah.

00:26:05.000 Disrupting the nuclear family? 0.84

00:26:06.000 It was about economic equality.

00:26:07.000 They had a few points where I was like, how can I get, how can I understand what they want, like, positively?

00:26:13.000 I don't trust anything these people have to say anymore.

00:26:15.000 Not like I trust Republicans all that much, but when they repeatedly say that they're fighting for justice, but then literally attack, like they're not fighting against racism, they're attacking black and brown people.

00:26:26.000 I have to wonder if the goal is to make more and more people just vote for Donald Trump.

00:26:34.000 I mean, it's gonna work.

00:26:36.000 I would not be voting for Trump this year if this wasn't happening.

00:26:39.000 Really?

00:26:39.000 Yeah, I'm upset about the Julian Assange thing.

00:26:42.000 I voted for Trump.

00:26:43.000 I, you know, I believe in a lot of his policies, his campaign promises.

00:26:47.000 I am right-wing.

00:26:49.000 But I'm very upset with what he's doing to Julian Assange, and I would sit it out in protest if Democrats weren't running around being domestic terrorists.

00:26:58.000 You weren't always right-wing.

00:27:00.000 No, you knew.

00:27:02.000 I know, but for the audience's sake.

00:27:04.000 You were like a big Bernie, like you were out there with Black Lives Matter.

00:27:08.000 Yeah, I mean, I was writing for a libertarian website that was pretty harsh on police and pretty anarchist-bent.

00:27:18.000 And I went and covered Ferguson, and I was very upset about the Kelly Thomas case in Orange County, which was a man who actually was innocent and was beat to death by police in a very shocking video.

00:27:32.000 So when they first came out, I was like, cool, people are going to talk about this.

00:27:35.000 Maybe we can get justice for Kelly Thomas.

00:27:37.000 Awesome.

00:27:38.000 Rock on.

00:27:38.000 Do your thing.

00:27:40.000 And then I just As I watched what they were doing, I just became more and more disenchanted with it and completely repelled me eventually.

00:27:49.000 I remember you told me a story about how you actually got attacked for being white.

00:27:53.000 Yeah.

00:27:53.000 And you're not even, I mean, I don't know, you're sort of... I'm a Soderican.

00:27:59.000 You told me that's what it's called, so I was like, oh, okay.

00:28:01.000 But they, but like, it's, it's, it's kind of interesting how when they started attacking

00:28:06.000 other minorities who didn't agree with them, they started saying, it's whiteness instead of being,

00:28:11.000 instead of you're white. It used to be like, you're a white male. Then it was like when

00:28:14.000 Candace Owens would come around or people like you or me, it's like, it's whiteness. 0.54

00:28:18.000 Yeah.

00:28:19.000 Now it's just the concept of, which can be adopted by anybody.

00:28:23.000 Now, you're white, Ian. 0.73

00:28:24.000 I've got a friend who's a black albino. 0.92

00:28:27.000 It's the most mind-bending thing.

00:28:29.000 He's African-American.

00:28:30.000 He's probably white on their chart.

00:28:32.000 He's as white as me, but he identifies as black.

00:28:35.000 It depends if he's right or left wing.

00:28:37.000 Then they'll figure out what his ethnicity is, I think.

00:28:41.000 Maybe the whole goal is to just remove this concept of race in general, like they say it.

00:28:47.000 Yeah.

00:28:47.000 I think that they genuinely have an issue with white people.

00:28:49.000 there's no genetic component to any of it. And then when you start saying, when

00:28:53.000 they start saying that like, well remember that article I think was

00:28:56.000 Huffington Post that black men are the white people of black people? Yeah. Yeah, 0.55

00:28:59.000 things like that. I think that they genuinely have an issue with

00:29:03.000 white people. So I mean I don't know if I agree on that one. 0.80

00:29:08.000 I think that they genuinely, like, it's becoming very apparent that there's massive disdain, particularly for men, but for women too.

00:29:19.000 The whole Karen meme and what they did to Amy Cooper.

00:29:22.000 There's just this weird, it's almost like revenge.

00:29:27.000 Like they're trying to get revenge or something.

00:29:29.000 I don't think it's revenge.

00:29:30.000 I think it's just a cultist scapegoat.

00:29:33.000 Yeah. Well, they simultaneously say that Donald Trump is scapegoating immigrants.

00:29:37.000 It's like when you talk about all this whiteness and white privilege, like literally the concept of whiteness where

00:29:42.000 they you saw the thing in the Smithsonian where they claimed

00:29:45.000 that time and hard work are traits of white people. 0.56

00:29:49.000 It's like, yeah, okay.

00:29:51.000 Like, so there's an old joke.

00:29:53.000 I don't know if you guys have seen the John Cleese thing, where he's like, this is a simplified version.

00:29:58.000 It's an old joke, and then it's been expanded upon, where he's like, if you want to be a right-wing fellow, here's a list of people you can hate.

00:30:04.000 And then he goes through all the people, like, the right supposedly hates.

00:30:07.000 And then he's like, now if you find yourself wanting to be a left-wing extremist, here's a list of people that you can choose to hate.

00:30:12.000 And then he goes through a list of people.

00:30:13.000 And the funny, the joke about it is that at the end, he says,

00:30:16.000 he's like, when he's talking about, when he's talking about the right wing people, or I'm sorry, the people that right

00:30:20.000 wing hates, he ends with and moderates.

00:30:22.000 And then when he goes to the left wing people, he ends once again with moderates, like both sides hate them.

00:30:26.000 But there's an, there's an expanded joke where it's like, if you want to be a

00:30:33.000 traditional conspiracy theorist, all right, then you're angry at the Illuminati.

00:30:38.000 They control the banks, they start all the wars, they're responsible for all the oppression.

00:30:43.000 Now, if you're a neo-Nazi, well then you just replace Illuminati with the word Jew.

00:30:49.000 If you're an Occupy Wall Street activist, you replace the word Jew with the 1%. 0.86

00:30:52.000 If you're an intersectionalist, you replace the 1% with white people or whiteness.

00:30:57.000 They always say basically the same things about all of the groups they believe are oppressing them and none of it is

00:31:02.000 true.

00:31:03.000 It's just extremism.

00:31:05.000 But I will say it's kind of coming full circle too.

00:31:07.000 It's really interesting in that book, I don't know if you guys saw it, In Defense of Looting.

00:31:11.000 Have you seen that one?

00:31:13.000 I've seen it.

00:31:13.000 Apparently there's like a portion of it where they say that Jewish people and Asians are like the face of capital or

00:31:21.000 something.

00:31:21.000 That's their claim.

00:31:23.000 And it's like, that sounds horribly racist and anti-semitic.

00:31:26.000 Where are you going with this?

00:31:27.000 The New Black Panther Party protested a Chinese restaurant in DC.

00:31:32.000 What?

00:31:32.000 Remember?

00:31:33.000 When was that?

00:31:34.000 Why?

00:31:34.000 I don't even remember why.

00:31:36.000 They were just, but it was a few months ago.

00:31:39.000 They went, it was, what's the name of the restaurant?

00:31:41.000 It was in DC.

00:31:43.000 I've been there before, really good.

00:31:45.000 They showed up- Why were they protesting it?

00:31:47.000 I don't remember, but it was like the most ridiculous thing and they were, I think they were claiming that like, yeah, yum yums, that's what it was.

00:31:54.000 Why were they protesting it?

00:31:57.000 I wrote about it and I'm completely blanking.

00:31:59.000 It's been a really extreme day today.

00:32:03.000 We're definitely going to get this all fixed and then have you come back later in the week for sure.

00:32:06.000 But they were saying basically that Asians are white people now too.

00:32:11.000 That's why they say BIPOC. 1.00

00:32:13.000 Black, indigenous, people of color.

00:32:16.000 Asians don't count. 1.00

00:32:17.000 So it's really bad for someone like me. 0.98

00:32:19.000 They really hate me.

00:32:21.000 I was at a protest in, I think it was Seattle, at U-Dub, University of Seattle, Washington.

00:32:29.000 And there was a guy who was, like, ranting about the goal of the Nazis was to merge with the Asian race to create the... And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, hold on!

00:32:38.000 What?

00:32:38.000 You just made that... I was like, dude, the Nazis and Japanese were, like, allied.

00:32:42.000 And I'm like, they never actually met at any point in battle.

00:32:44.000 Like, they were separated by half the planet. 0.75

00:32:47.000 Like, that's ridiculous. 0.96

00:32:48.000 The Nazis were, like, all about... They were ridiculously racist. 1.00

00:32:50.000 That's not true. 0.72

00:32:51.000 But they just make these things up to explain why it is that Asian immigrants do really well.

00:32:57.000 I learned something really crazy, too.

00:32:59.000 Filipino immigrants to the U.S.

00:33:00.000 make way more on average than the average American.

00:33:02.000 Really?

00:33:03.000 Yeah, that surprised me.

00:33:04.000 That's interesting.

00:33:06.000 It surprised me because of all of the East Asian nations, Southeast Asian, I would have

00:33:12.000 assumed that Filipinos would come here and be on par with the average salary.

00:33:17.000 Average is average, right?

00:33:19.000 And I think it's, it's, I don't, I don't, I don't look at the numbers for all the other, you know, countries of origin, but I guess there's probably like, um, legal immigrants probably make more money.

00:33:30.000 I mean, they're willing.

00:33:31.000 I don't think it's anything to do with, with, uh, here's, I think what it has to do with is that these people are in their country saying, I'm going to work hard to go somewhere to improve myself.

00:33:40.000 That kind of perseverance and mentality.

00:33:43.000 They then come here and they keep working.

00:33:44.000 They don't stop.

00:33:45.000 And they find that path to opportunity.

00:33:47.000 But I found that really, really interesting because there's a lot of arguments when the left tries to talk about Asian people and say that they're not a marginalized group, that they're actually oppressors because they're so privileged.

00:34:02.000 They're typically talking about Chinese immigrants and Indian immigrants, and they ignore all of the other less wealthy Asian nations.

00:34:11.000 But even the immigrants from many of these countries do better than the average American.

00:34:14.000 I think we, as Americans, have a culture problem where we don't teach our kids to work hard, thus we end up with a bunch of people marching around, smashing things, arguing that they're owed something, they deserve things, but they're not working towards it.

00:34:30.000 Right.

00:34:31.000 I'll tell you what, I'll give you a piece of advice, too.

00:34:33.000 The best advice is just do stuff.

00:34:35.000 Because, like, I could have said we're not going to do the show because everything was broken.

00:34:39.000 And I'm like, whatever, man, we're going to do it.

00:34:41.000 We're going to have a broken night or whatever.

00:34:42.000 You just got to work hard.

00:34:43.000 You got to try.

00:34:44.000 You got to make stuff happen.

00:34:45.000 But now it ends up where these people are getting into government.

00:34:50.000 They're controlling schools, institutions.

00:34:52.000 And you know what?

00:34:53.000 You know what?

00:34:54.000 I'll tell you this.

00:34:55.000 I'm going to make a bold statement.

00:34:57.000 Part of me, when these people yell, like, cops are bad or whatever, I immediately think, man, these cops who arrested small business owners, these cops who went to the McCloskey's house and took their guns, I mean, those cops for sure I think are bad.

00:35:12.000 Yeah.

00:35:13.000 And it's incredible because when you're watching the video of them in Milwaukee, they called the police on that man.

00:35:20.000 These people who hate cops and are anti-cop, they called the police and said he has a gun in his house.

00:35:28.000 And then you can hear him on his own livestream snitching on the guy, being like, he was pointing the gun!

00:35:32.000 Go get him! 0.99

00:35:33.000 Go get him! 0.99

00:35:34.000 And the cops were like, OK.

00:35:35.000 They cheered for the police while they pulled him out of the house. 0.99

00:35:38.000 And I was like, you raving hypocrites. 0.99

00:35:40.000 I mean. 0.98

00:35:42.000 We can't swear on here, luckily, because I have words.

00:35:46.000 You can swear if you want.

00:35:47.000 No, that's fine.

00:35:50.000 Just so everyone who's watching knows, I always tell people, swear, say whatever you want, but just realize YouTube might penalize your content.

00:35:56.000 No, I'm just kidding.

00:35:58.000 You want to say your thing.

00:35:59.000 I'm just saying, I have thoughts.

00:36:01.000 To clarify, there's no video of the guy pulling the shotgun, pointing or anything?

00:36:05.000 Well, in the video, yeah, the protesters, or whatever you want to call them, the mob, they were live streaming it themselves onto this Facebook group, which is...

00:36:17.000 just doxing people's addresses and things like that.

00:36:21.000 And you could see him in the window holding the gun, but he never confronted them.

00:36:25.000 He never threatened them.

00:36:26.000 They were threatening him with the bullhorn and the police weren't there to do anything.

00:36:30.000 They didn't stop these people.

00:36:32.000 They didn't, I mean, it was, it was like a scene from Beauty and the Beast when they're like Gastons riling up the crowd and they're Heading on horses up to the castle, except everybody was screaming and incoherently and listening to Cardi B. It was really bad.

00:36:49.000 That's a really good analogy.

00:36:50.000 Not even an analogy, that's literally what it is.

00:36:53.000 Gaston, reminding the people to go riot.

00:36:55.000 It's the beast! 0.99

00:36:56.000 He's a beast! 0.91

00:36:57.000 Go! 0.97

00:36:57.000 We gotta go! 0.97

00:36:57.000 Bring your pitchforks! 0.97

00:36:59.000 And it's like some drunk dude, like, chilling in his living room, like, just watching Amazon or something.

00:37:03.000 Who knows?

00:37:04.000 He must have been terrified.

00:37:05.000 I was terrified.

00:37:06.000 I have never been more afraid.

00:37:07.000 And I think it's because my daughter was there.

00:37:09.000 And, you know, she'll tell you all about it if you ask her.

00:37:12.000 But I've never been more afraid because I didn't know how many people were out there.

00:37:16.000 I didn't know if they were going to burst through my windows.

00:37:18.000 They were hitting my window with, like, what sounded like a stick.

00:37:20.000 When they came to your house, you're saying?

00:37:22.000 Yeah.

00:37:22.000 And I was so afraid.

00:37:24.000 Normally, I can handle myself pretty well.

00:37:27.000 I think I'm pretty scrappy.

00:37:28.000 I've been in my share of fights.

00:37:30.000 But when you don't know how many people are out there, you don't know if they're going to come into your house, you don't know if they're going to burn your house down.

00:37:36.000 I mean, there was flames shooting at my house.

00:37:39.000 It's really scary.

00:37:41.000 And I was holding a gun the same way he was.

00:37:43.000 And I was ready to shoot.

00:37:44.000 I was like, the second I see one of them pop through the window, My life is over, but my daughter is going to be safe.

00:37:49.000 It reminds me of like a zombie movie when they see the windows and there's a silhouettes banging on the window and then like the hands break through and you got to like take a bat and like bash the arms.

00:37:59.000 A lot of times you hear the stories about stuff like that, but you always read it after the fact when they didn't take it to the next level.

00:38:05.000 But when you're in the moment, you don't know if it's about to happen.

00:38:09.000 I was pleading with 911.

00:38:10.000 I was like, I don't know what they're going to do.

00:38:12.000 Like, when are you guys going to be here?

00:38:14.000 And they were like, I don't know.

00:38:14.000 There's people are spread out all over the city because there's riots.

00:38:18.000 And I was just like, well, what am I supposed to do?

00:38:22.000 And I was like, all right, I had a revolver.

00:38:26.000 So I was like, I only have six shots. 0.81

00:38:27.000 I'm going to take out the biggest one and make sure it's the men because the women probably won't hurt my daughter. 1.00

00:38:32.000 I mean, the things that went through my head were crazy.

00:38:35.000 I mean, I think about it now and I'm frightened of my own thoughts.

00:38:38.000 Do you feel comfortable talking about what kind of weapon you had?

00:38:40.000 I don't know because some people say not to.

00:38:42.000 Oh, sorry, I just said it.

00:38:43.000 Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

00:38:44.000 I'm talking about, like, you said you had a revolver.

00:38:46.000 Yeah.

00:38:47.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:47.000 But what kind?

00:38:48.000 Oh, I don't even remember what it was.

00:38:49.000 Like, the caliber of bullet really matters.

00:38:52.000 I don't really want to get too into it.

00:38:53.000 Right, right, right, right.

00:38:54.000 Well, I bought a bunch of guns.

00:38:56.000 I sure did.

00:38:56.000 You sure did.

00:38:57.000 What was 911's advice when you asked?

00:39:00.000 They told me to calm down, and I mean, the lady was very unsympathetic. 1.00

00:39:06.000 At one point, I was like, well, how long is it gonna take to get here?

00:39:09.000 And she was like, well, I'm not coming.

00:39:11.000 And I'm like, okay, thanks.

00:39:13.000 She said, I'm not coming.

00:39:14.000 Yeah, and meanwhile, my daughter is staring at me like, what is going on? 0.97

00:39:18.000 And I'm telling her to go lay on the floor next to her bed in case I have to kill people. 1.00

00:39:23.000 And this lady's just like, well, I'm not the one that's coming. 0.99

00:39:26.000 I was like, what, what is happening?

00:39:30.000 And that was when I really like, that was the part that was the scariest.

00:39:33.000 I felt like there was nobody that was going to come help me because everybody, you could hear sirens everywhere, but they were going to fires.

00:39:39.000 They were going, you know, there was riot stuff happening everywhere.

00:39:43.000 That happened in New York during the riots, where this guy called 911 because someone had broken into his building and they were fighting.

00:39:50.000 And the response he got from 911 was, Sir, our city is under attack.

00:39:54.000 What would you have us do?

00:39:55.000 Yeah, that's basically what they said to me.

00:39:57.000 You know, it's really... I got really angry today.

00:39:59.000 So my main segment was... I was talking about this on my main channel.

00:40:03.000 Pro-life Democrats took out a full-page ad in the New York Times saying the Democrats have gone crazy on abortion and that if they don't moderate their position, they're gonna lose 30% of their voter base to Donald Trump.

00:40:15.000 Because, like, I talked to Stephen Crowder about this on his show.

00:40:18.000 Conservative.

00:40:19.000 Pro-life. 1.00

00:40:20.000 And I was like, I'm pro-choice, but these people are nuts.

00:40:23.000 And Crowder basically said the Republicans are offering up negotiations to disaffected liberals, like, let's have a conversation about it. 0.63

00:40:30.000 The left is saying no.

00:40:31.000 Like, outright.

00:40:32.000 And so anyway, I bring this up because we ended up seeing this and there was another story, an article written by Bridget Phetasy.

00:40:40.000 Do you guys know Bridget?

00:40:42.000 Commentator, she's great. 0.98

00:40:43.000 And she talked about how she got hundreds of emails from people who are politically homeless.

00:40:47.000 Some of them are conservatives who are going to vote for Biden.

00:40:49.000 But she said for the most part, it seems like she wouldn't be surprised if Trump wins in a landslide based on the things she was hearing.

00:40:56.000 I was talking about this.

00:40:57.000 I started to get more and more heated because So the other house is in Philly, where the studio is actually functioning, and we're trying to build this one out.

00:41:07.000 And I thought we were safe.

00:41:09.000 I thought we were totally fine.

00:41:10.000 I lived in New York, and I remember the protests were getting a little crazy, and I was like, this was years ago.

00:41:15.000 So I'd see them periodically, and I'd be like, whatever, they're just marching around, it's no big deal, but if civil unrest gets bad, I don't want to be here.

00:41:21.000 Then some bombs got planted.

00:41:23.000 I have no idea what that was about.

00:41:24.000 I don't think it was about political or anything like that.

00:41:27.000 Politics.

00:41:29.000 But I had moved from New York to Jersey partly because two cops got executed in front of my house.

00:41:36.000 Uh, I look out my window, I look down the street, not this intersection right here, but the next one over, so it was literally just like one block over.

00:41:44.000 Two cops, two cops are sitting in their car and a guy came up and said, he posted on Instagram, you take two of ours, you take two of yours, killed these two guys.

00:41:51.000 And so I realized, like, there's some, there's some political problems coming.

00:41:55.000 So I moved to the suburbs eventually.

00:41:57.000 I'm like in Jersey.

00:41:58.000 I was in Jersey, that's when the bombs happened, and I was like, I can't live here.

00:42:01.000 This is getting too crazy for me.

00:42:03.000 My thing is, I traveled all around the world covering all of this conflict and crisis, so I don't want it anywhere near where I live, because I see what that stuff is like.

00:42:12.000 So when it started getting worse, I'm like, I'm leaving.

00:42:14.000 I moved to the Philly suburbs.

00:42:17.000 Outside, like, not even that close to Philly.

00:42:18.000 It's on the other side of the road.

00:42:19.000 It's in Jersey.

00:42:20.000 And I was like, we are safe here.

00:42:21.000 There are but trees surrounding us.

00:42:23.000 We have very few neighbors.

00:42:25.000 Everybody smiles and waves.

00:42:26.000 The cops are right over there, and they smile.

00:42:28.000 How's it going, Tim?

00:42:28.000 Hey, good to see you, Officer Friendly.

00:42:30.000 And the ride started, and then we heard the helicopters.

00:42:33.000 And I'm sitting in the other studio, and it's like crazy sirens everywhere.

00:42:38.000 Helicopters, like, go outside on the deck, and I look.

00:42:39.000 I'm like, they're within a few miles of my house. 0.88

00:42:42.000 This is ridiculous. 0.74

00:42:43.000 So you know what I did? 0.98

00:42:44.000 I bought a bunch of guns.

00:42:46.000 And I had said in January, I'm never buying guns.

00:42:48.000 Never want a gun in my house.

00:42:49.000 No guns.

00:42:50.000 We called the police.

00:42:51.000 The police couldn't respond to these people.

00:42:53.000 They couldn't respond to you.

00:42:55.000 So I went out and bought weapons.

00:42:57.000 I heard your story, where the 9-1-1's like, we can't do anything, you're on your own, you had a gun, and I'm like, man, I better do something about this.

00:43:03.000 Then Joe Biden tweets out, we're gonna ban weapons of war, we're gonna come for assault weapons, and I'm like, oh, come on!

00:43:10.000 You defund the police, you support these people, and then I say, okay, fine, I'll take care of myself, I'm gonna go buy weapons, I'm gonna keep my house safe, my friends safe, and then you tweet, you're gonna take my guns away now?

00:43:21.000 These people are out of their minds.

00:43:23.000 They're arresting people defending themselves.

00:43:24.000 The McCloskeys, the guy in Milwaukee, this poor man in Omaha, whose business was being attacked, and they decked his 70-year-old dad, and he warned them, back up, don't do it, and they attack him anyway, and they indict him! 0.82

00:43:38.000 So now we're in the middle of nowhere.

00:43:40.000 Yep.

00:43:41.000 Now, now here's the best part.

00:43:43.000 If you come within, if you come anywhere near my house, you're on my property.

00:43:49.000 Yeah.

00:43:49.000 In a castle doctrine state.

00:43:50.000 Same.

00:43:51.000 I'm like, I mean, I'm really out there and the closest, I mean, my mailbox is a mile away from my house.

00:43:59.000 I'm not kidding.

00:44:00.000 An actual mile from my house.

00:44:02.000 So, I mean, if anyone comes anywhere near me, I even thought about putting landmines in on my street.

00:44:08.000 You can't legally do that, can you?

00:44:10.000 The mice, or the squirrels will blow up.

00:44:10.000 I probably not.

00:44:13.000 No, the squirrels don't weigh enough.

00:44:14.000 I do like the squirrels.

00:44:15.000 But the deer might trigger it.

00:44:17.000 You know what they do in, I think, I could be wrong about the country, I think it's in Cambodia?

00:44:23.000 Because they have all of the landmines from the Camarouge.

00:44:26.000 I think it's Cambodia, right?

00:44:28.000 They just send goats out.

00:44:30.000 And then the goats just go like... I want to get goats.

00:44:33.000 So somebody invented this thing.

00:44:34.000 It's like a big ball with a bunch of mops, sticks sticking out of it, and plates.

00:44:40.000 And it just rolls around detonating landmines.

00:44:43.000 But anyway!

00:44:45.000 The general idea is... My understanding is that New Jersey is semi-castle doctrine.

00:44:50.000 You can defend yourself only if you have no choice.

00:44:52.000 Like, you have to retreat first.

00:44:54.000 But if you're cornered, you can defend yourself with appropriate force.

00:44:58.000 And so I'm like... So if someone breaks into my house, right?

00:45:01.000 These are the questions I have.

00:45:02.000 Someone breaks into my house, and there's the back door right behind me.

00:45:06.000 But my friends are upstairs.

00:45:08.000 Do I just say, bye everybody!

00:45:09.000 You're on your own!

00:45:10.000 I'm the one with the gun, but I'm gone, because I'm not going to prison for you.

00:45:13.000 Or do I go upstairs, not retreating, confronting the person breaking in, because I'm worried they're going to hurt my friends and family.

00:45:20.000 You really don't even think about the laws when it's happening.

00:45:23.000 Exactly.

00:45:24.000 At least I didn't.

00:45:25.000 I mean, I propped myself behind a wall where I could see three of the... You know how my living room was set up.

00:45:32.000 I propped myself behind that wall where the bathroom was, and I could see three of the windows, and it was the ones that they were hitting.

00:45:39.000 It sounded like they were hitting it with sticks.

00:45:41.000 And I was like, man, the second they come through, it's over.

00:45:44.000 Is DC standing ground or castle doctrine?

00:45:47.000 I think it's duty to retreat.

00:45:48.000 I didn't even look into it.

00:45:49.000 I was just like, I'm gonna have to deal with this.

00:45:53.000 You don't have time to think about it, you know?

00:45:55.000 You know why any state that says you have a duty to retreat is wrong?

00:45:59.000 Cause you're in your house.

00:46:01.000 Where do you retreat to?

00:46:01.000 It's true.

00:46:02.000 Like where am I supposed to go?

00:46:03.000 Under my bed?

00:46:04.000 What do you guys want me to do?

00:46:05.000 I'll retreat outside and then be in the woods and then die of exposure or what?

00:46:09.000 Give them my house, then I have no food, no shelter, no access to resources.

00:46:12.000 I understand the general idea, but there is so much wrong with this concept of you have to retreat.

00:46:18.000 Because here's the other issue.

00:46:20.000 Let's say you're in your house and they say, if someone is going to break in, you have to retreat.

00:46:24.000 So they're banging on your windows and you're like, I better retreat.

00:46:26.000 You run out the back door and there's a guy waiting for you at the baseball bat.

00:46:28.000 That was my problem.

00:46:29.000 They were shooting fireworks at three of the four sides of my house.

00:46:33.000 And then the other side was an alleyway and that was where they were like banging.

00:46:37.000 So it sounded like there was just people surrounding my house.

00:46:41.000 I thought, I mean, there could have been hundreds of people for all I knew.

00:46:44.000 Like I had no idea because it was like blinding light in every window.

00:46:48.000 And so I was like, I could flee out the basement door on the side, but there's stuff flying at those windows.

00:46:55.000 So clearly that's not safe.

00:46:57.000 And I was on a corner.

00:46:59.000 Um, it was, it, it was bizarre.

00:47:02.000 When you're surrounded and you are on a duty retreat, what's the legal implication there?

00:47:10.000 If you, I mean, if you retreat into your bedroom and then they come into your house and you open fire, have you, have you legally retreated?

00:47:17.000 But to where?

00:47:19.000 I have no idea.

00:47:20.000 Burrow? 0.97

00:47:21.000 You didn't retreat into the arms of the villain?

00:47:23.000 Back door, escape, run away. 0.98

00:47:25.000 Yeah, but when there's a mob, how do you do that?

00:47:29.000 Yep.

00:47:30.000 And then you'll get, you'll get treated like the Omaha guy.

00:47:32.000 I mean, it could have been one person for all, or well, it was, it probably, it was at least two people or three people, but I mean, it could have been one person.

00:47:39.000 It could have been a hundred people.

00:47:40.000 I had no idea.

00:47:41.000 It was just loud and bright.

00:47:42.000 My house was pitch black and it was so bright.

00:47:44.000 It looked like it was noon.

00:47:46.000 Um, cause just from the fireworks and what do you do?

00:47:50.000 Where are you, where do you go?

00:47:51.000 I told my daughter to lay on her bedroom floor cause at least her bedroom was up on the hill. 1.00

00:47:55.000 So it was not on ground level.

00:47:58.000 Not only that, It's not just about retreating, but what about your kid?

00:48:00.000 Is she going to be able to run as fast as you?

00:48:03.000 Is she going to be able to climb the same fences as you?

00:48:06.000 If it was someone like me, I would imagine that there's some leeway if you're acting in defense of others.

00:48:16.000 But you don't know how the courts are going to treat you.

00:48:19.000 So I understand there's probably a lot of people correcting me because, look, I'm a new gun owner.

00:48:23.000 I've researched a lot of these laws.

00:48:24.000 Recently reached out to a criminal lawyer about, like, what I need to do to be legal, moving, you know, stuff like that.

00:48:30.000 And I'm sure they're going to say, oh, here's what happens if someone breaks in in this state and all this stuff.

00:48:33.000 I get it.

00:48:34.000 But what we're seeing right now is morality policing.

00:48:36.000 Yeah.

00:48:37.000 It doesn't matter if you're justified.

00:48:38.000 It doesn't matter if you're right.

00:48:39.000 We got the guy in Omaha literally saying, don't do it, and backing away, and they still indicted him.

00:48:44.000 And one of the indictments was quite literally him warning them not to attack him.

00:48:48.000 They were like, well, that was a threat.

00:48:49.000 That was a terroristic threat.

00:48:51.000 Saying what?

00:48:51.000 Back up?

00:48:52.000 Don't do it?

00:48:53.000 Yeah.

00:48:53.000 So even if, even if you did the right thing, you're talking about duty to retreat?

00:48:57.000 Doesn't matter.

00:48:58.000 Doesn't matter.

00:48:59.000 You could run full speed away from your house, It sounds like you've lost faith in the system.

00:49:04.000 Or you're losing.

00:49:05.000 I bought guns because I have no faith in the system.

00:49:06.000 Because I need to make sure I'm safe.

00:49:08.000 And you're safe.

00:49:08.000 And those make it up.

00:49:09.000 They'll make it up and say, these poor peaceful protesters.

00:49:13.000 It sounds like you've lost faith in the system.

00:49:15.000 I mean, that's on purpose.

00:49:16.000 Or you're losing.

00:49:17.000 I think it's intentional.

00:49:18.000 I think they're doing it.

00:49:19.000 I bought guns because I have no faith in the system because I need to make sure I'm safe

00:49:23.000 and you're safe and everyone here is safe.

00:49:26.000 So now the added advantage of being in the middle of nowhere is one of the concerns I

00:49:30.000 have watching that video from Milwaukee.

00:49:33.000 They were standing in the street, and so they can argue, I'm not on your property, I'm on public property, while harassing you and maybe even throwing things at your house.

00:49:41.000 Where I am now, you come anywhere near my house, you're on my property.

00:49:45.000 You go in the woods, you're on my property.

00:49:47.000 It's a big property in the middle of nowhere, cut the costs down, but the general idea is, I want to make sure that anybody who eventually finds their way here, somehow, I don't know, no matter what you do, you're on my property.

00:49:58.000 I'll tell you what, we're going to have in-ground auto-defense turrets go, Yeah, we're talking about setting up testing turrets.

00:50:02.000 I'm kidding.

00:50:03.000 We're not going to have auto-defense turrets.

00:50:05.000 I talked to a friend of mine who's also right-wing and a little bit controversial.

00:50:10.000 They live in a similar area to me, about an hour away.

00:50:14.000 Same state though.

00:50:15.000 When they moved in, they were like, so what's the law here about if people show up at your house? 0.97

00:50:21.000 And the sheriff was just like, if they're on your property, you shoot them.

00:50:25.000 And I was like, I'm going to move there. 0.66

00:50:27.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 That's here where you're at now?

00:50:30.000 Yeah.

00:50:30.000 I like it.

00:50:31.000 There are a lot of states like that.

00:50:33.000 Missouri, for instance.

00:50:35.000 So the McCloskeys... Yeah, that's so sad, man, that they got charged when they were just brandishing a weapon to scare the people off. 0.97

00:50:43.000 They were on private property.

00:50:45.000 They came onto private property.

00:50:46.000 They pointed at him.

00:50:47.000 She pointed at him and walked towards him. 0.99

00:50:50.000 So the issue for me with all these stories is that I always tell people, They're always gonna find an excuse because everything moves in increments, right?

00:51:00.000 We're not going to see, in my opinion, or we might.

00:51:03.000 Like a bunch of Black Lives Matter people, right now, running up to a random elderly woman's home, beating the crap out of her on a livestream and burning her house down, that's really extreme, and everyone would turn on them. 0.97

00:51:13.000 But it slowly happens, right? 0.94

00:51:15.000 And they have excuses.

00:51:16.000 So first, they go to McCloskey's house.

00:51:18.000 The McCloskeys are eating dinner, they see this mob come in, the gate gets broken somehow, and so they pull out their weapons and say, back off. 0.91

00:51:24.000 Then the Black Lives Matter group says, we were peacefully protesting and they pulled

00:51:28.000 guns.

00:51:29.000 Then these leftists go, oh, and the media will never show you the broken gates or any

00:51:34.000 of that, any of the things that they destroyed on their way there for that peaceful protest.

00:51:39.000 So, so it's the increment though, right?

00:51:41.000 As long as the regular liberals can go, yeah, but I mean, even though they were trespassing.

00:51:46.000 Don't you think that's a little extreme?

00:51:47.000 He pulled out an assault rifle.

00:51:49.000 Then what happens next?

00:51:50.000 Then we get the Milwaukee guy.

00:51:52.000 Now they're standing in front of his house screaming for hours and hours, and he branches his weapon, and he gets arrested straight up.

00:51:58.000 And then they say, whoa, wow, I can't believe he was pointing the gun at those peaceful protesters.

00:52:02.000 The next thing that's going to happen is, like, they're going to go to someone's house and they're going to kick the door in.

00:52:06.000 And they're going to be like, dude, he kicked the door in, but he didn't deserve to die.

00:52:09.000 Yeah.

00:52:10.000 If right now somebody kicked the door into like a random person's house, the media might have no choice.

00:52:15.000 So like the Andy Ngo incident.

00:52:17.000 You know Andy Ngo.

00:52:18.000 Yeah.

00:52:18.000 He got brutally beaten in the street by Antifa.

00:52:21.000 The media had no choice.

00:52:21.000 Yeah.

00:52:23.000 It was such a dramatic escalation from what Antifa had done in the past that everyone was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, too much, too fast.

00:52:31.000 So Antifa had to pull back a little bit, pull back, oops, oops. 0.98

00:52:34.000 And then after time, they started working in all of the hit pieces, the smears, calling him a white supremacist.

00:52:39.000 Now that he's a white supremacist, now the media won't cover it if he gets attacked again.

00:52:43.000 So it's increments.

00:52:45.000 I talked about this a long time ago, and I've been predicting they're going to start coming to people's homes.

00:52:50.000 And then they started coming to people's homes.

00:52:52.000 I predicted the morality police will arrest you when you defend your property several months ago.

00:52:57.000 I was like, it's only a matter of time before they go to someone's house, some guys like staff my property, and the cops are like, it's easier to arrest the homeowner than it is to deal with the mob.

00:53:06.000 And that happened already.

00:53:07.000 And now Omaha is probably the most worrying and terrifying story yet.

00:53:11.000 Jake Gardner, Marine veteran.

00:53:14.000 With two tours in Iraq, I think?

00:53:16.000 Yeah.

00:53:16.000 Bar owner, small business owner, minding his own business, giving warnings, backing away, and they came for everything!

00:53:23.000 His business, his family, his home!

00:53:25.000 He was so much nicer than me.

00:53:27.000 Or, like, half the people I know.

00:53:29.000 I mean, did you watch the video of him talking about the Women's March?

00:53:32.000 Yeah, he was a really nice guy.

00:53:33.000 Like, I was like, wow, I should be nice like that.

00:53:35.000 And then I was like, wait, no, I shouldn't.

00:53:37.000 He's dead right now because of these people.

00:53:40.000 I wonder if... But he was just so good.

00:53:43.000 And they still made him into a demon.

00:53:46.000 Yeah.

00:53:47.000 Like, I...

00:53:48.000 This is where they busted into the bar, this group.

00:53:51.000 They started smashing stuff up.

00:53:52.000 What happened?

00:53:52.000 They walked into the bar?

00:53:54.000 So there was like a group smashing up windows in Omaha.

00:53:57.000 And the bar owner's dad came out and told him like something to the effect of like, probably back off.

00:54:02.000 He pushed somebody.

00:54:03.000 And then someone runs up full speed and just like drop kicks him or something and slams him to the ground.

00:54:08.000 And he's like 70.

00:54:08.000 Disproportionate.

00:54:10.000 But look, the dad should not have shoved somebody.

00:54:12.000 Right.

00:54:12.000 Okay.

00:54:13.000 But it doesn't warrant jumping and decking the guy.

00:54:15.000 Somebody shoves you, you got to know when you're like, okay, back off, man.

00:54:19.000 But it's true.

00:54:21.000 Criticism where it's due.

00:54:22.000 Although it's not the most egregious thing that happened that night.

00:54:24.000 So the son came over like, yo, what are you doing?

00:54:27.000 Don't mess with my dad.

00:54:28.000 And two guys start encroaching on him.

00:54:30.000 He pulls up his shirt to show his weapon.

00:54:33.000 And it's all on video.

00:54:34.000 And he's like, don't do it!

00:54:35.000 I'm warning you!

00:54:36.000 Don't do it!

00:54:37.000 Don't do it!

00:54:37.000 And he's backing away.

00:54:38.000 The two guys attack him.

00:54:40.000 He pulls out his gun, and while they're holding him down, he fires two warning shots.

00:54:43.000 They run away.

00:54:44.000 As he's struggling to get up, he's, like, on the ground, and he's, like, staggered, this guy, James Scurlock, jumps on his back, puts him in a choke hold, and then he yells.

00:54:52.000 It was, like, 18 seconds where he was choking him.

00:54:54.000 He switches the gun to his left, puts it over his shoulder, and fires.

00:54:57.000 The law?

00:54:57.000 Then they took everything from him.

00:54:58.000 The law, the law came and arrested him.

00:55:02.000 So first, they said it was clear-cut self-defense.

00:55:04.000 The DA said, clear-cut self-defense.

00:55:06.000 We got it on video.

00:55:07.000 The dude was on the ground and he got attacked.

00:55:09.000 The landlord for his bar, get out.

00:55:12.000 The landlord for his home, apparently I'm learning from Cassandra.

00:55:14.000 Yeah, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty certain that's what I was reading today.

00:55:19.000 Because I remember being like, wait, what?

00:55:21.000 That's probably why it was on the West Coast.

00:55:23.000 Yeah.

00:55:23.000 So then he loses everything.

00:55:25.000 His job, his income, his business.

00:55:27.000 And then finally the last thing he had, freedom.

00:55:31.000 The Black Lives Matter groups went to the city, protested, rioted, you know, whatever.

00:55:35.000 I shouldn't say rioted, because I don't know exactly what they did, but the community pressure resulted in the DA saying, okay, special prosecutor.

00:55:42.000 And then the grand jury argued that because he warned them, he was threatening them, and because he was threatening them and had a gun, it was a felony.

00:55:48.000 And then he got a man.

00:55:49.000 So it's like, imagine telling someone, stay away from me.

00:55:52.000 I have a gun and they say, Oh, terroristic threats.

00:55:54.000 You're under arrest.

00:55:55.000 So now you can't warn somebody, which means if you do shoot, what are we supposed to do? 0.99

00:55:59.000 Um, bang, shoot him. 0.99

00:56:01.000 No warning. 1.00

00:56:02.000 Don't say anything.

00:56:02.000 Cause if you say something, they're going to charge you for it.

00:56:04.000 Yeah.

00:56:04.000 They stripped everything from this guy and he will not be the last.

00:56:10.000 Did he kill himself?

00:56:11.000 Yes.

00:56:12.000 Or so they found him dead with a bullet.

00:56:15.000 Yeah, but he sent goodbye texts to a lot of people.

00:56:22.000 Marine veteran.

00:56:23.000 I believe it was 38.

00:56:25.000 Two tours in Iraq.

00:56:26.000 And he was a small business owner.

00:56:29.000 Marine veteran.

00:56:29.000 Regular guy.

00:56:30.000 He volunteered with the Trump campaign, but he was libertarian-leaning.

00:56:34.000 And he was, the video of him that's gone viral is him saying like, the women's marches, it's great that they're expressing themselves, their criticisms of Trump are warranted, that's how they feel, they have a right to express themselves, I'm happy, they're not violent.

00:56:46.000 Super chill dude.

00:56:47.000 Super chill.

00:56:48.000 And they started accusing him of being a racist.

00:56:49.000 They started making up lies saying he was posting racist things on Facebook.

00:56:53.000 I tried to find it.

00:56:54.000 I do my research, I couldn't find anything.

00:56:56.000 Did you see, so there's a Medium article that was viral, and it's kind of what kicked all this off.

00:57:02.000 There was this activist from Omaha, and he wrote this long, unhinged blog.

00:57:07.000 I mean, it was a conspiracy theory to end all conspiracy theories.

00:57:10.000 But he was picking apart the logos of the bars, and one of them was called...

00:57:18.000 I'm blanking on it.

00:57:19.000 I've had a very long day and I'm on very little sleep.

00:57:21.000 But it had a key in the logo, like an old-fashioned key.

00:57:26.000 And in the handle part, it was like a plus sign, you know, like a cutout in an old-fashioned key.

00:57:32.000 And they said the plus sign was meant to represent the swastika.

00:57:37.000 And they put... I am not even kidding.

00:57:40.000 I've posted screenshots of this on my Twitter.

00:57:42.000 I didn't want to link to the article itself because it was...

00:57:45.000 I mean, the left gets really unhinged with their conspiracy theories.

00:57:49.000 Like, they make the whole frogs are turning gay thing look really, really, really moderate. 0.86

00:57:54.000 Really moderate. 0.56

00:57:56.000 Yeah.

00:57:56.000 Alex Jones moderate.

00:57:58.000 I mean, it makes more sense than anything that they're saying, but this...

00:58:03.000 I'm sorry, to be fair to Alex Jones, he was referencing a study on atrocy.

00:58:06.000 No, I know.

00:58:07.000 But everybody loves it.

00:58:07.000 And it was making them hermaphrodites, right?

00:58:09.000 Yeah, I was altering their... I really like Alex Jones.

00:58:12.000 I'm not making fun of him.

00:58:13.000 I think he's a national treasure.

00:58:15.000 He's hilarious.

00:58:16.000 But I was just, you know, that's a common conspiracy theory that I could reference from the right.

00:58:21.000 But yeah, they literally put this plus sign from inside the key handle, a tiny detail from this logo and they were like look at how it matches up next to a

00:58:32.000 swastika. It didn't have any swastika shapes. It was literally a plus sign, a bold plus sign. I

00:58:39.000 mean I yeah it there's that's how they were trying to destroy this man. It's it's it's it's the

00:58:48.000 there's a valve.

00:58:50.000 The media acts as a valve for politics.

00:58:53.000 It's really interesting.

00:58:55.000 It's kind of like we have this weird system where there's politics flowing around, kind of, and it doesn't make sense, but here's the point I'm trying to make.

00:59:04.000 When it comes to personal politics, it only flows in one direction, to the right.

00:59:07.000 So, the left will kick you out, they'll ban you, they'll attack you, your opinions are wrong, and the right is just recruiting everybody.

00:59:13.000 Come on over, we'll take everybody we can get and we're gonna win.

00:59:16.000 The right was great to me.

00:59:18.000 Yeah, I mean, so the easiest analogy is the left is screaming and yelling while the right's offering you a beer.

00:59:23.000 Yeah.

00:59:24.000 And even though they don't agree with you, they'll be like, let's have a conversation.

00:59:26.000 And I point this out all the time when I sat down with Glenn Beck, disagreeing on pro-life versus pro-choice.

00:59:31.000 And we laughed together and we shook hands and we're like, man, we got to figure out how to live together.

00:59:35.000 We disagree.

00:59:36.000 And it was a smile.

00:59:37.000 It was like, this is great.

00:59:39.000 We had a great conversation.

00:59:39.000 We respected each other's opinions.

00:59:41.000 We disagree with each other.

00:59:42.000 The left doesn't do that.

00:59:44.000 Well, there's something else happening when it comes to the media.

00:59:46.000 The media only flows to the left.

00:59:49.000 So it's a weird thing where the people flow right and the media flows left.

00:59:53.000 So here's what happens.

00:59:55.000 What would happen if you came out right now and... No, I'm not even going to say it.

00:59:58.000 There are several channels on YouTube that have been deleted outright, and some have been stripped from their monetization for saying things about coronavirus.

01:00:06.000 Like doubting it or criticizing it.

01:00:07.000 Gone.

01:00:08.000 Just like that. 0.98

01:00:09.000 But of course, if you come out and scream hysteria and bloody murder, you're fine.

01:00:13.000 So what happens if you can't talk about the other side of issues?

01:00:17.000 It can only move left.

01:00:19.000 So it's almost like a ratchet.

01:00:21.000 It can only go one way.

01:00:22.000 You can't pull it backwards.

01:00:23.000 So it keeps ratcheting.

01:00:24.000 Everything is ratcheting more and more to the left.

01:00:27.000 And then people, because the left and the media is going insane, are being shoved out and pushed to the right.

01:00:33.000 So I got to say, you know, in reference to Bridget Phetasy's article, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump got a landslide either.

01:00:40.000 And these polls may be wrong because they don't know what they're talking about anymore.

01:00:44.000 I think their methodology is probably broken.

01:00:46.000 All these pollsters, Rasmussen was the only one who got it right.

01:00:49.000 They were like, I would say, I think they were the only one who got it right on 2016.

01:00:53.000 It was like, they predicted, I think, two points and Hillary got 1.7 or something like that.

01:00:59.000 I think they predicted 1.7 and she got 2.1.

01:01:01.000 Everyone else was like, Hillary Clinton's going to win by three. 0.98

01:01:04.000 They were the closest right now.

01:01:06.000 They're saying Trump's doing really, really well.

01:01:07.000 Yeah.

01:01:08.000 So I wouldn't be surprised if Trump does win because of all of this stuff, because

01:01:12.000 here I am forced into a corner.

01:01:13.000 I have to go buy guns and then Biden threatens, take my guns away.

01:01:16.000 And now I'm just like, I'll tell you, it's a really, it's a really interesting

01:01:19.000 thing, the difference between never having a gun and talking about gun control and

01:01:24.000 gun rights, and then owning a gun and having the same conversation.

01:01:27.000 Because to truly understand what these laws mean, you have to actually be holding one and owning it.

01:01:33.000 It's yours.

01:01:34.000 And then all of a sudden it's like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't do anything.

01:01:37.000 I have this.

01:01:38.000 It's mine.

01:01:39.000 I'm a good person.

01:01:40.000 Don't take my gun from me.

01:01:41.000 And now they are.

01:01:42.000 And so now I'm like, listen.

01:01:44.000 When I felt like I could trust police, it was very, very different.

01:01:47.000 Now I feel like I have no options at all.

01:01:50.000 I literally am like, I gotta leave this area because what am I supposed to do?

01:01:54.000 If someone comes to my house and I defend myself, I'm going to end up like this Omaha guy. 1.00

01:01:59.000 What am I going to do?

01:02:00.000 Jump off my balcony 20 feet and like land on the ground, run, and then there's nowhere to go.

01:02:04.000 There's no way to retreat. 0.91

01:02:06.000 And I know if I do anything, they're going to claim peaceful protesters, some other ridiculous nonsense.

01:02:10.000 My 10-year-old daughter, she never went back into my house after that night.

01:02:16.000 She went and stayed at her dad's house and then I had to send her up to visit my mom in another state because my daughter would not step foot in the house again. 1.00

01:02:23.000 She was like, I don't know if they're coming back.

01:02:25.000 They didn't catch them.

01:02:26.000 I'm not going there.

01:02:27.000 So I had to move in 12 days.

01:02:29.000 Fastest move of all time.

01:02:30.000 To the middle of nowhere.

01:02:32.000 And then I moved out to the middle of nowhere too.

01:02:35.000 You're gonna love it.

01:02:36.000 It's I know it's fantastic.

01:02:38.000 So we've been here for the past several days and everything we got built today like this room was barren empty.

01:02:44.000 And like trust us getting this we got a mixer board over here and all this stuff. 0.50

01:02:47.000 It's ridiculous.

01:02:49.000 I swear it's magic. 0.53

01:02:49.000 There's like a weird scenario where like cables just don't work. 0.53

01:02:52.000 And then you know, but we're I'm trying really, really hard to just get out because November is coming.

01:02:57.000 And I am not going to be in a city on November 3rd through Yeah.

01:03:03.000 It's like the deadline to get out of the cities.

01:03:04.000 I'm like, we can, I'm look, we're, we're what?

01:03:08.000 Eight days away now from the, from the debates.

01:03:11.000 Awesome.

01:03:11.000 How could the debates happen?

01:03:12.000 Is it that soon?

01:03:14.000 I've been so distracted with covering like Antifa and BLM and all this stuff.

01:03:19.000 I didn't even realize it was coming up so soon.

01:03:21.000 29th.

01:03:22.000 Wow.

01:03:22.000 So we're about, we're just over a week out.

01:03:24.000 Can that, can a debate really happen?

01:03:26.000 Oh yeah.

01:03:26.000 Joe, Joe Biden, he just said 200 million people died.

01:03:30.000 He might fall asleep.

01:03:33.000 Oh, I'm so excited! 0.97

01:03:35.000 Maybe they're gonna give him, like, a ridiculous dose of uppers.

01:03:38.000 They're gonna have him sleep up until one hour before, wake him up, get him all ready, and then give him some uppers. 0.79

01:03:45.000 I'm not trying to be mean.

01:03:45.000 I mean that literally, like, they might give him some medication.

01:03:47.000 Trump wanted to do a drug test, he and Biden, because he thinks he's on something.

01:03:51.000 People have said Trump's on stuff.

01:03:53.000 But Trump's a spry old man.

01:03:55.000 He's spry.

01:03:56.000 Joe Biden's not.

01:03:58.000 So I started thinking, I'm like, man, isn't everything just going completely nuts?

01:04:02.000 Like this can't be real.

01:04:04.000 Is, is, are we, are we in the Truman show or something?

01:04:07.000 Are you guys punking me?

01:04:08.000 You are so in it.

01:04:10.000 Like you say this sometimes and you might be too, I don't know, but you're seeing the worst a lot.

01:04:16.000 So it's not that it's not as crazy as it seems.

01:04:18.000 No, no, no, no.

01:04:19.000 I'm not talking about the worst.

01:04:20.000 I'm talking about the weird.

01:04:22.000 It's definitely weird.

01:04:23.000 The internet made things so weird.

01:04:25.000 So hold on.

01:04:25.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:04:26.000 Did you see the Colby Covington fight?

01:04:29.000 Oh, no, but I watched his interview after.

01:04:33.000 The guy he was fighting was like a pro Black Lives Matter guy?

01:04:35.000 Yeah.

01:04:36.000 Come on, man!

01:04:37.000 A guy named Covington fighting a Black Lives Matter activist?

01:04:40.000 A Trump supporter in the ring against a... Somebody set that up!

01:04:45.000 The dude was impressive.

01:04:46.000 And his speech was awesome.

01:04:48.000 It's cool.

01:04:49.000 I liked when they got into a fight afterwards, like a verbal fight after.

01:04:52.000 That was great.

01:04:53.000 Did you watch that?

01:04:53.000 No, what happened?

01:04:55.000 Well, he got a lot of backlash.

01:04:57.000 Colby did.

01:04:58.000 Cause he was like, I just got off the phone with the president.

01:05:01.000 Has your tribes sent you smoke signals or something?

01:05:04.000 It was real bad.

01:05:06.000 But I like, I mean, I had, my eyes were watering watching it.

01:05:09.000 I was like, I can't believe he just said that.

01:05:11.000 The UFC is the last place that like comedy and actual put downs and like.

01:05:16.000 Yeah.

01:05:17.000 Yeah, trash talk is loud. 1.00

01:05:19.000 I saw a meme and it said something, it was like something like a Colby Covington and the Covington Kid. 0.63

01:05:24.000 And it was like a picture of the Covington, Nick Sandeman.

01:05:28.000 And they're like, I'm like, what?

01:05:31.000 Like how, that's, it's just a coincidence, right?

01:05:33.000 But then the dude literally fought a Black Lives Matter activist and won.

01:05:37.000 Is that like, are the elders controlling the simulator or whatever?

01:05:41.000 Are they warning us what's going to happen in November?

01:05:43.000 Like Trump will win.

01:05:44.000 It's good.

01:05:44.000 Trump's going to beat them.

01:05:46.000 It just, there's a lot of weird little things like this where it's like, that can't be real, can it?

01:05:50.000 Like, how is this really happening?

01:05:52.000 If it's a magnetic universe, there are no coincidences.

01:05:56.000 We're in a simulation, bro.

01:05:58.000 I was talking to some other people who are, you know, some big personality friends of mine, and I was just like, bro, are we in a simulation?

01:06:05.000 And these are like regular, normal, boring podcast people, and they're like, dude, we're in a simulation.

01:06:10.000 I'm half kidding.

01:06:11.000 I'm half kidding because I'm like, it's just everything that's happening is so weird.

01:06:16.000 You know, I can't imagine a debate between, listen, when I watched these videos of Joe Biden, I don't just follow like, you know, right-wing pundits who are making fun of Joe Biden.

01:06:27.000 And I push back when people try and say Joe Biden gaffed when he didn't.

01:06:30.000 So there's that one thing where Joe Biden said, I'm going to beat Joe Biden.

01:06:34.000 He didn't.

01:06:35.000 He said, I'm going to be Joe Biden, but he's got dentures.

01:06:38.000 Right.

01:06:38.000 He was like, people ask about my record.

01:06:40.000 I tell you I'm Joe Biden.

01:06:41.000 I'm going to be Joe Biden.

01:06:42.000 But people heard a beat and I'm like, so I'll push back on that.

01:06:45.000 Right.

01:06:46.000 There's also when he said, you know, remember when Biden said, go, you know, the thing?

01:06:49.000 We're all created equally under go, you know, the thing we say.

01:06:53.000 It's not because he didn't remember the word.

01:06:55.000 It's because he panicked thinking if he said the word God, he'd offend the far left who really hate that.

01:07:02.000 So he stopped himself.

01:07:03.000 Under go, you know, the thing.

01:07:05.000 He stopped himself from saying God.

01:07:07.000 So that wasn't a gaffe.

01:07:09.000 But I watch videos of Joe Biden.

01:07:10.000 That dude is not there at all.

01:07:13.000 And so how could Donald Trump?

01:07:16.000 Donald Trump's gonna walk up on stage and go, thank you.

01:07:21.000 Joe Biden, thank you.

01:07:22.000 Your campaign staff bailed out the rioters.

01:07:25.000 And then it's over, done, that's it.

01:07:27.000 No, they did.

01:07:29.000 And Trump will keep, he'll be like, you said 200 million people will die, but then he won't let it go.

01:07:35.000 Trump will keep going with it.

01:07:37.000 That's the nice thing about him.

01:07:37.000 He's got stamina.

01:07:39.000 He's gonna last.

01:07:39.000 He's spry.

01:07:41.000 He's a spry old man.

01:07:42.000 He's persistent.

01:07:44.000 We'll talk about that.

01:07:46.000 But I do want to talk about Assange and all that stuff, too.

01:07:49.000 But first, to kind of wrap up all the talk, we were talking about these riots and everything.

01:07:53.000 How do you feel about Trump's job so far dealing with the riots?

01:07:56.000 Not great.

01:07:59.000 I honestly, if somebody told me that I would be saying this six months ago, I would have been like, you are out of your mind.

01:08:06.000 But I think he should have used the Insurrection Act like three months ago.

01:08:12.000 I thought that at first I was well I shouldn't say that I was I was thinking maybe but then I read a really good article that basically said what do you think would happen when the local police are instructed to resist when the local government resists and you all of a sudden have a federal occupying force in a city that's rejecting them yeah it's just a recipe for legit civil war But at the same time, these cities are rejecting U.S.

01:08:37.000 law and U.S.

01:08:38.000 norms and everything.

01:08:42.000 They've gone nearly anarchist.

01:08:45.000 So at what point do you say these states are, you know, Not.

01:08:53.000 They're not functioning.

01:08:53.000 functioning. You saw what happened today with the DOJ announcing anarchist jurisdictions. Yeah.

01:08:58.000 They're going to try and defund Portland, Seattle and New York City or take federal funding away

01:09:02.000 from them. My concern is like that's going to result in more problems for the cities.

01:09:07.000 I think it's going to make them get worse because now they have no money and they're like, whatever.

01:09:11.000 It's going to kind of fall apart.

01:09:14.000 But the problem is even that action, which I understand why they're doing it, they get this big outline of all of these cities, how they rejected federal assistance, how they won't enforce the law, how they're cutting criminals loose.

01:09:24.000 And I'm like, almost anything Trump does will lead to potential civil war.

01:09:31.000 Like the states rejecting federal authority, which they've been doing.

01:09:34.000 Like when it came to Portland, Trump sent some police there to protect a federal building, and they resisted in every possible way.

01:09:43.000 And everything just got worse.

01:09:44.000 I will say, the one thing I've praised Trump on over and over again, probably for the 50 billionth time for those of you that are familiar with my content, is that the feds deputized the Oregon State Police.

01:09:53.000 So any arrest they make now gets prosecuted by the feds instead, and that wrapped up a ton of these people.

01:09:59.000 But then, so here's what happened.

01:10:00.000 The riots came back to Portland the other day.

01:10:02.000 They went to an ICE facility.

01:10:04.000 And ICE, you see these videos of how ICE responded?

01:10:07.000 They just dropped smoke bombs.

01:10:10.000 The air was a cloud.

01:10:12.000 You couldn't see anything.

01:10:13.000 You couldn't see your hand in front of you.

01:10:14.000 And then they ran up behind Antifa.

01:10:17.000 So like Antifa's marching forward with the umbrellas.

01:10:19.000 And they're like firing tear gas at them.

01:10:21.000 And then the whole area fills with smoke.

01:10:22.000 And then all of a sudden the cops run up behind.

01:10:24.000 They went around.

01:10:25.000 Yeah.

01:10:25.000 ran up behind them and just grabbed them and arrested them all.

01:10:28.000 So then what happened the next day?

01:10:30.000 Antifa stayed away from the feds, marched through the city smashing up local businesses.

01:10:34.000 And where were the police, where was Ted Wheeler?

01:10:35.000 Nowhere to be found.

01:10:36.000 They realized if they go up against Trump, they get crushed.

01:10:40.000 But so long as they attack the state level, then they're okay.

01:10:43.000 See, one of the things that I'm having a huge problem like wrapping my head around, though, is that everybody's being like, this is what Biden's America.

01:10:53.000 This would be Biden's America.

01:10:54.000 This would be Biden's America.

01:10:56.000 And I'm like, this is Trump's America.

01:10:57.000 And it's happening right now.

01:10:58.000 And it's not stopping.

01:11:00.000 And these business owners have been getting screwed for, what, 130 days now.

01:11:06.000 And nobody's helping them. 0.56

01:11:07.000 And it's not Biden's America, it's Trump's America.

01:11:10.000 And he has a responsibility to do something if those local leaders are failing.

01:11:15.000 Because it's not those people's fault.

01:11:16.000 It's not the business owners fault.

01:11:18.000 It's not Jake's fault.

01:11:19.000 It's not any of these people's fault that their local government is failing them.

01:11:24.000 At the very least, no. 0.99

01:11:28.000 I do want to say, though, before people jump down my throat, I am voting for Trump, and I think that you'd be a fool not to vote for Trump. 0.96

01:11:34.000 I just have some criticisms, also. 0.56

01:11:37.000 I think Trump's probably concerned that if he makes too bold a move, it could affect his chance at re-election.

01:11:41.000 I think every politician deals with that.

01:11:43.000 I know a lot of people say Trump's not a politician.

01:11:45.000 He is now.

01:11:45.000 He's fighting for re-election.

01:11:46.000 So he's a different kind.

01:11:48.000 But he might lose if they would use everything against him.

01:11:52.000 I don't believe there's undecided voters.

01:11:54.000 I think that people have picked a side, and his side wants law and order.

01:12:00.000 And he's not giving us enough law and order.

01:12:03.000 Well, I mean, not only that, look at the Republicans who are like, we're not going to vote on replacing Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

01:12:08.000 It's like, dude, literally every Republican and Trump supporter wants you to do it.

01:12:11.000 So I don't know whose vote you think you're going to get.

01:12:14.000 It's funny because you have like, I think it was like Murkowski.

01:12:18.000 But did they flip back and say they were going to do it?

01:12:21.000 I don't think so.

01:12:22.000 I think she's standing strong, but I could be wrong.

01:12:24.000 I was in Assange and Antifa mode all day.

01:12:28.000 I haven't kept up on anything else.

01:12:30.000 She's saying she's not going to vote to confirm or whatever until after the election.

01:12:36.000 Does she think there is a large group of Trump's conservatives and Republicans who have decided, like every Republican is undecided?

01:12:45.000 The point I'm trying to make is, if 30% of the country is Republican, 33% is Democrat, and 30% are independent, She realized, like, you realize you'll lose all of the Republicans if you do this.

01:12:56.000 And so what, is she trying to get Democrats to vote for her? 0.99

01:12:57.000 They're not going to vote for her. 0.88

01:12:59.000 They want ridiculous policy that makes no sense.

01:13:01.000 So by abandoning the core base of Republicans, then what?

01:13:06.000 You get some left moderate Democrats who for some reason like the Republican better than the Democrats?

01:13:11.000 That makes literally no sense.

01:13:13.000 I mean, I just think politicians are narcissists and they get, you know, she is an extremely unremarkable politician. 1.00

01:13:20.000 There's nothing special about her.

01:13:21.000 There's nothing interesting about her.

01:13:23.000 She's not a Trump or a Ted Cruz or a Rand Paul.

01:13:26.000 She's not.

01:13:28.000 She's boring. 1.00

01:13:30.000 And by pandering to the left for a little while, she gets a whole bunch of head pats from CNN and she gets her five minutes of airtime where people are like, you did a great thing.

01:13:38.000 You're so brave.

01:13:40.000 And it feeds their ego for, you know, another year.

01:13:43.000 Let's let's talk about Wikileaks.

01:13:45.000 All right.

01:13:45.000 So you're like a Wikileaks confidant, I guess.

01:13:49.000 Or like, how would you describe yourself in that capacity?

01:13:52.000 We're talking about Trump, mind you, too.

01:13:54.000 I'm tying it together.

01:13:56.000 I don't know.

01:13:56.000 I'm a friend of Julian's.

01:13:58.000 I'm a longtime supporter.

01:13:59.000 I have covered them extensively.

01:14:02.000 I've written hundreds of articles about Wikileaks.

01:14:07.000 Yeah.

01:14:07.000 I don't know.

01:14:08.000 You were saying before, like, if it wasn't for the riots, you wouldn't have voted for Trump because of what happened to Assange.

01:14:13.000 Yeah.

01:14:13.000 I mean, if somebody is, you know, going after your friend, would you?

01:14:18.000 Well, what did Trump do?

01:14:21.000 Let me start real quick, just for people who might not be aware.

01:14:23.000 WikiLeaks is essentially just a news publication.

01:14:26.000 Right.

01:14:26.000 They but they they they the core of it is they take leaks whistleblowers and they publish all news outlets do this.

01:14:34.000 Well not all but most but news outlets also will write like you know it rained today and there's like a cat in the tree.

01:14:39.000 But they'll take leaks the new york times writes about a bunch of different things including leaks wiki leaks like

01:14:43.000 focuses on they'll use software Based on wiki leaks now to get an anonymous submission the

01:14:47.000 dropbox stuff. Yeah, so julian assange has basically been detained forcibly, um under house arrest sort of

01:14:56.000 He was in the Ecuadorian embassy for a long time.

01:14:58.000 When they finally are dropping the charges, the U.S.

01:15:01.000 swoops in and arrests him, and now they're trying to extradite him.

01:15:05.000 And I don't know how much I'm supposed to say.

01:15:07.000 Well, they read your testimony, right?

01:15:08.000 Yeah.

01:15:08.000 It's online.

01:15:09.000 So Trump did it.

01:15:10.000 Yeah.

01:15:11.000 Trump is the one who ordered Assange's arrest.

01:15:15.000 I don't get it.

01:15:16.000 Trump said he loved WikiLeaks, and now all of a sudden he's putting Assange through all of this.

01:15:21.000 Well, I think Trump surrounded himself with a lot of very, very bad people.

01:15:26.000 I mean, we had Bolton, Pompeo.

01:15:30.000 It was he hired a lot of Bushies, you know, that's not the same Republican Party as the Trump people and those people certainly don't care about a free press. 0.82

01:15:41.000 But yeah, he he ordered it and Jennifer Robinson recently testified to that.

01:15:50.000 You know, there was a meeting, and they offered Julian Assange a pardon in exchange for giving up his source.

01:15:55.000 On the DC email leaks?

01:15:57.000 Right.

01:15:58.000 Or the DNC?

01:15:59.000 Yes.

01:16:00.000 Or was it the DCCC?

01:16:01.000 It was the DNC, right?

01:16:02.000 The DNC leaks.

01:16:03.000 So Julian Assange came to possess emails from the DNC, and it was very, very bad for the Democrats.

01:16:11.000 And Donald Trump wants to know how he got this.

01:16:13.000 Well, I mean, Donald Trump's whole president.

01:16:17.000 I can't talk.

01:16:18.000 His whole presidency has been plagued by Russia, Russia, Russia.

01:16:22.000 Everything's Russia. 0.90

01:16:23.000 You won because Russia. 0.91

01:16:24.000 And so by by finding out WikiLeaks source, because Julian's repeatedly said it wasn't a state actor and he's a very honest man.

01:16:35.000 He would finally be able to put that to bed.

01:16:36.000 It would clear Trump.

01:16:37.000 It would clear his name.

01:16:38.000 Wouldn't?

01:16:39.000 This is a really tough question.

01:16:41.000 It's a really difficult ethical conundrum.

01:16:44.000 Julian Assange can't give up his sources.

01:16:46.000 No.

01:16:46.000 It would discredit everything he's ever done.

01:16:48.000 It would destroy the organization.

01:16:50.000 And it would put at risk his sources.

01:16:53.000 Yeah.

01:16:54.000 So I think a lot of people, there's the conspiracy theory of who leaked to it, who leaked the information to WikiLeaks.

01:17:02.000 But assuming that this, so I guess the conspiracy theory is Seth Rich.

01:17:07.000 They claim that Seth Rich did it.

01:17:08.000 But the media claims it was Russia.

01:17:11.000 I guess it was what, intelligence agencies claimed it was Russia as well?

01:17:14.000 Right.

01:17:14.000 But Assange said absolutely not.

01:17:16.000 Then who was that other guy who claimed it was not Russia because he received the documents from someone?

01:17:21.000 Former Ambassador Craig Murray.

01:17:23.000 Craig Murray said that.

01:17:25.000 So it's either... I mean, at this point, I have no idea who it could have been.

01:17:30.000 Maybe Craig Murray, Assange, they're both lying.

01:17:33.000 Maybe the theories are wrong.

01:17:35.000 Or maybe there's someone we don't know about, and if Assange gave them up, it would put this person's life in jeopardy, and Assange won't give up that information.

01:17:43.000 Right.

01:17:43.000 And it could it could have been multiple, multiple people.

01:17:46.000 I mean, he's not going to tell anyone and he shouldn't.

01:17:49.000 And he doesn't owe anybody that.

01:17:52.000 You know, people want people are like, well, he needs to do this because our democracy is falling apart.

01:17:57.000 And it's like he doesn't know you anything.

01:17:58.000 He gave you the information to make an informed decision about your election.

01:18:03.000 And then everybody forgot about him and left him in an embassy for two more years to rot while Trump was president and could have pardoned him.

01:18:10.000 Why does he owe anybody anything?

01:18:12.000 And so when he refused the deal, WikiLeaks lawyers argued that that's when they decided to prosecute him.

01:18:20.000 Because now they're going to take him by force and force him to give it up.

01:18:22.000 Right.

01:18:22.000 And that's a violation of ethics.

01:18:26.000 And you know, it really is a challenge because I feel that part of me where it's like, if we can get confirmation that it really wasn't Russia, that would destroy Maybe not completely, because the establishment lies all the time, and we know.

01:18:41.000 Like, they were wrong completely about Russia, and we know that.

01:18:44.000 But if we figure out who this person really was, assuming this person... Whatever we could learn about that person, that could change everything, and be a major powerful tool in stopping the psychopaths who are destroying our cities, who are rombing through our streets, who are infecting our cultural institutions.

01:19:01.000 It feels like Assange might hold the key Yeah, but that's not his responsibility.

01:19:07.000 what the left is doing and help restore America back to where it used to be if we could just get the truth about

01:19:13.000 what Happened. Yeah, but that's not his responsibility. He's not

01:19:16.000 even American. I know He doesn't owe anybody any favors.

01:19:20.000 Nobody in America did him any favors.

01:19:22.000 And this is why I'm like, this is Donald Trump's absolute America first.

01:19:27.000 That he would be like, Assange is an American, and he needs the information for America.

01:19:32.000 But also, I gotta say, for himself, too.

01:19:34.000 It would exonerate him.

01:19:36.000 It would disprove a lot of this nonsense.

01:19:38.000 Even though it's already been mostly proven to be bunk.

01:19:42.000 We'll see what happens with the Durham report.

01:19:45.000 I'm wondering if we're even gonna see any... I don't think anything's gonna happen with Durham.

01:19:50.000 I gotta give context for the people who might not understand.

01:19:53.000 So we have... John Durham is investigating the Obama administration and intelligence agency individuals for... I guess... How would you describe it?

01:20:03.000 I guess the official way is understanding how Russiagate started.

01:20:08.000 Although they've already issued one criminal indictment, I think, right?

01:20:10.000 That lawyer who altered the email for like claiming that Carter Page wasn't actually a CIA source or something.

01:20:16.000 So, and this story is so hard to talk about.

01:20:19.000 You know what really scares me about all of this?

01:20:21.000 What?

01:20:22.000 To truly explain to someone the context around Julian Assange, what his information means, why he has to protect it, why Trump is going at it.

01:20:29.000 There's like 50 billion stories beneath all of that.

01:20:32.000 It's so difficult.

01:20:33.000 Yeah.

01:20:33.000 It's very, very challenging.

01:20:36.000 I've been trying to explain my testimony to some friends of mine and things who don't really follow it.

01:20:41.000 They only really know WikiLeaks because of the election.

01:20:43.000 And it's just like an onion.

01:20:47.000 Like there's so many layers you have to explain for each little bit of my statement.

01:20:51.000 Like it's, it was very complicated because a lot of people only know WikiLeaks from 2016.

01:20:57.000 They don't remember or they were too young or they weren't paying attention.

01:21:02.000 Or it was just the wrong side politically when the Manning leaks came out.

01:21:09.000 Was that collateral murder?

01:21:10.000 Yeah.

01:21:11.000 In the war logs.

01:21:13.000 So in Vietnam, they embedded journalism so people could see how horrible it was, the casualty rate on both sides in friendly fire.

01:21:22.000 So they pulled journalism out of the military for the first Iraq invasion, basically, or war.

01:21:27.000 They pulled it out?

01:21:28.000 Yeah, they don't want journalists.

01:21:28.000 They put journalists in there only as like faux journalism to make it look good.

01:21:32.000 So seeing this collateral murder thing, you see how just civilians struggle.

01:21:37.000 People just die.

01:21:38.000 That was Obama.

01:21:39.000 Yeah, that was Obama's drone.

01:21:40.000 That was Obama?

01:21:41.000 No.

01:21:42.000 That was before Obama.

01:21:42.000 That was 2010 or something?

01:21:44.000 Oh, it was before.

01:21:45.000 It came out during Obama.

01:21:46.000 The footage was from Bush.

01:21:47.000 It was like a helicopter gunship mowing down civilians that they thought were a camera.

01:21:53.000 They thought a camera was a gun.

01:21:54.000 They opened fire on all these civilians.

01:21:56.000 Yeah, Manning described it as like watching a child torturing ants with a magnifying glass.

01:22:02.000 Because they were shooting them from the helicopter and laughing, yeah.

01:22:06.000 And that's war.

01:22:07.000 That's military.

01:22:08.000 You know, they have to have fun.

01:22:09.000 They have to joke about it.

01:22:10.000 Yeah, otherwise you'd go crazy.

01:22:13.000 Donald Trump talked about pardoning Edward Snowden.

01:22:16.000 So Snowden is the NSA leaker who gave all of these files to Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras, The Intercept, and Donald Trump entertained pardoning him.

01:22:28.000 Don't you think there's a possibility?

01:22:29.000 Or do you think there's a possibility he might, after he gets re-elected, finally be like, okay, you know what?

01:22:33.000 Well, I mean, I guess I should explain what my testimony was about today.

01:22:39.000 So this is kind of crazy.

01:22:41.000 You submitted testimony in the trial against Julian Assange.

01:22:46.000 No, I wasn't against him.

01:22:47.000 I was for the defense.

01:22:48.000 No, I mean that the trial is the trial.

01:22:50.000 The trial, yeah.

01:22:51.000 You submitted evidence supporting Assange in his ongoing trial, extradition trial, right?

01:22:55.000 Yes, so I was supposed to testify, but the UK court's very different, and the prosecutor for the US didn't want to cross-examine me.

01:23:06.000 which is pretty awesome, like he was scared.

01:23:10.000 But they, so instead, they didn't have to have me speak.

01:23:15.000 They didn't want me to speak.

01:23:17.000 And so the deal was that the lawyers would read my statement.

01:23:20.000 It's the same thing they did with Jennifer Robinson and a few other witnesses.

01:23:25.000 But they read, I had an eight page statement in a transcript of some phone calls

01:23:30.000 and things that were submitted.

01:23:31.000 And they read that in open court today.

01:23:35.000 And basically in October 2018, I interviewed Julian Assange's mom, Christine.

01:23:43.000 Lovely woman.

01:23:44.000 Highly recommend following her on Twitter.

01:23:48.000 But she was calling for a pardon for her son.

01:23:51.000 No big deal.

01:23:52.000 Normal article.

01:23:54.000 And at the time I was in a DM group with a whole bunch of conservative influencers and people in the Trump campaign and close to the administration.

01:24:03.000 Ambassador Rick Grenell was in it.

01:24:05.000 Arthur Schwartz.

01:24:08.000 A lot of powerful people and reporters and things.

01:24:13.000 People in the campaign would post things in there that they wanted people to share or that they wanted people to see.

01:24:18.000 So, like, no-brainer, I put it in there, hoping maybe I would find a sympathetic ear.

01:24:22.000 I didn't.

01:24:25.000 So, ten minutes later, I get this crazy call from Arthur Schwartz, who was doing communications for Rick Grinnell.

01:24:31.000 I believe he still does.

01:24:33.000 And if you Google him, he's known as, like, Donald Trump Jr.' 's fixer.

01:24:40.000 And he's like yelling at me.

01:24:43.000 And we've always been friendly, so I'm like, what is going on?

01:24:46.000 And he starts saying that a pardon is never going to happen, that they're going to go into the embassy to arrest Julian, that they're charging Julian based on the Manning release, not on DNC leaks or Vault 7.

01:25:01.000 that he was a horrible person and I didn't know all the terrible things that happened because of him and he was saying that you know if if you really understood this you wouldn't be supporting him anymore and people understand that you've supported him up until now because you didn't know but now that you know if you continue reporting him like basically you can't be in our in the cool crowd you're not gonna be you know you're gonna be What were you supposed to know?

01:25:29.000 Or what was he claiming you knew now?

01:25:31.000 He was just telling me that he was a bad person, that WikiLeaks got people killed, which is not true.

01:25:37.000 I mean, the Pentagon testified that was not true during the Manning trial, and the prosecution said that's not true during this trial.

01:25:44.000 Could it be the Pentagon was lying because they don't want to reveal that they were compromised?

01:25:48.000 Possibly I couldn't really speculate on that But I argued with him that it was false and I was like they testified that that's not true In the US government said that's not true in the extradition case still but he was insistent that Julian had done all these bad things He had got people hurt that he was reckless.

01:26:06.000 He was comparing him to a drunk driver saying they was selfish and had no regard for other people and And that it was basically like if you keep supporting this guy, you're not going to be in

01:26:21.000 the cool MAGA club in DC anymore.

01:26:24.000 Like you're going to be, you're not going to get scoops. We're not going to share Gateway

01:26:29.000 Pundit. We're not, you know, it was, it was an odd conversation. Huh? You say F you. Well,

01:26:37.000 I kept baiting him because I wanted, I wanted more information. So I was like, tell me more,

01:26:43.000 you know, tell me more, keep telling me more.

01:26:45.000 At one point I did start to cry, though, because he was screaming at me that Julian was going to spend the rest of his life in prison and that it wasn't journalism.

01:26:56.000 I was getting very frustrated and I was saying, if you go into an embassy and rip him out, he's a political refugee technically.

01:27:03.000 You'd be committing an act of war.

01:27:05.000 And he was like, not if they let us.

01:27:08.000 And so, I mean, I care about this case very deeply, and so it was upsetting to me.

01:27:15.000 But as soon as I got off the phone, I think I called Chelsea, and I was like, hey, I think they're coming after you.

01:27:20.000 And then I went and I told Julian in person.

01:27:23.000 And the State Department got, they were surveilling our meetings, so they heard everything that

01:27:33.000 I told him.

01:27:35.000 And Arthur, when I got back, Arthur told me that there was a State Department investigation and that he couldn't tell me anything anymore because I had told Julian.

01:27:44.000 He knew that I told Julian.

01:27:47.000 And yeah, sorry, there's like a mosquito, but yeah, the woods.

01:27:53.000 Yup.

01:27:56.000 Yeah.

01:27:57.000 They eventually went and pulled him out.

01:27:59.000 Yeah, so they went and pulled him out.

01:28:01.000 And I hit up Arthur again and I was like, hey, you know, you knew this was going to happen.

01:28:06.000 Can you tell me what's going on? 0.99

01:28:08.000 And he was like, he deserves the death penalty. 0.99

01:28:11.000 Everyone involved at WikiLeaks deserves a death penalty. 1.00

01:28:14.000 Completely unhinged. 0.70

01:28:17.000 And a few days after that, I think it was like April 15th, and he was arrested on the 11th.

01:28:23.000 There was an article on ABC News and it said that, it was like buried way down in this article, said that Rick Grinnell is the one who had worked out the deal for Julian's arrest.

01:28:32.000 And so suddenly I was like, oh, that's how Arthur knew all this stuff that he told me in October.

01:28:37.000 And I hit him up and I was like, hey, is this how you knew that?

01:28:41.000 And he was like, And then, you know, kept ranting about him being, you know, deserving the death penalty.

01:28:49.000 And the article also said that Grinnell only got a verbal pledge that there would be no death penalty.

01:28:54.000 So I pointed that out and he was like, well, he deserves, you know.

01:28:59.000 What could he possibly get the death penalty for?

01:29:01.000 if they try and claim that people did get hurt if they add new charges.

01:29:04.000 But Julian's not an American.

01:29:06.000 Well, the UN has warned repeatedly that they believe there's a chance that the US could try and execute him because they could add terrorism charges, espionage charges, Patriot Act stuff.

01:29:16.000 I mean, there's a slew of things that they could throw at him.

01:29:19.000 I gotta say, I'm convinced, like, I understand, you know, Trump is going after him because I think Trump wants to win the fight.

01:29:25.000 He wants evidence that Russia, the story was bunk, and he probably wants to help himself.

01:29:30.000 But I can only imagine if Joe Biden gets in, they'll kill him. 0.91

01:29:33.000 Yeah.

01:29:33.000 I mean, Hillary Clinton joked about droning him.

01:29:36.000 I don't think she was joking.

01:29:37.000 Well, I should clarify that.

01:29:38.000 She laughed about it.

01:29:39.000 Yeah, but that's because she's evil. 1.00

01:29:41.000 Not because it was a joke.

01:29:42.000 You realize Julian's in London, right?

01:29:45.000 He's a couple blocks away from this really big shopping mall.

01:29:48.000 It's like his famous mall.

01:29:48.000 It's down the street.

01:29:49.000 It's literally around the corner.

01:29:51.000 You can't drone London.

01:29:53.000 If Joe Biden gets in, Yeah.

01:29:56.000 The left absolutely hates WikiLeaks right now, for some reason.

01:29:59.000 Like, I guess because of Trump.

01:30:01.000 Because they think WikiLeaks was working for the Russians.

01:30:03.000 That is an incredible, incredible flip.

01:30:06.000 I remember back in the day, Julian Assange, hero of the left, anti-establishment, anti-war, exposing the war crimes, and then all it took was some intelligence asset individuals to go on MSNBC and say, oh, actually, that guy you like?

01:30:19.000 Russia.

01:30:20.000 He helped Trump.

01:30:21.000 And then, snap! 0.86

01:30:22.000 All of a sudden, now they're like, let him burn!

01:30:25.000 You love this guy, man.

01:30:27.000 But Trump was the one who ordered his arrest, at least according to Arthur.

01:30:31.000 Even Trump said he loved WikiLeaks.

01:30:32.000 Yeah, but he ordered his arrest, and people should be putting pressure on him to free him.

01:30:38.000 Just saying.

01:30:40.000 I think Julian Assange, the story, is a modern-day assassination story.

01:30:46.000 And what I mean by that is, we're not in the times where information was scarce.

01:30:53.000 There's phones everywhere, there's somebody watching all the time.

01:30:56.000 And if they went to get Julian in a major first-world city, then it would be a serious, high-profile circumstance where it would make a martyr.

01:31:05.000 They don't want to make a martyr.

01:31:06.000 So what ends up happening is character assassination, absurd

01:31:09.000 indictments.

01:31:12.000 Then he gets arrested.

01:31:13.000 So he knows they're going to try and extradite him.

01:31:16.000 He was right the whole time.

01:31:17.000 Julian went to the Ecuadorian embassy because he thought he was going to get

01:31:20.000 extradited, right?

01:31:21.000 Yep.

01:31:21.000 And then sure enough, once they finally got him out, they were trying to

01:31:24.000 And the media painted him as crazy for years.

01:31:24.000 extradite him.

01:31:27.000 They were like, he has no reason to think this.

01:31:29.000 He could walk out anytime.

01:31:31.000 I mean, I spent years arguing with people about this.

01:31:34.000 People would tweet at me constantly being like, he could leave anytime.

01:31:38.000 He's not under arrest.

01:31:39.000 He could leave whenever he wants.

01:31:41.000 And Julian would always be like, no, I can't though.

01:31:44.000 And he was right.

01:31:46.000 There was like, so I actually met with him several years ago, and there was a creepy black van chilling out in front, and I'm like, I'm pretty sure, like, as soon as I walked anywhere near that building, I'm pretty sure as soon as I got the message, the email, like, they immediately just ripped apart all of my, you know, personal emails, all my files, like, all the intelligence agencies from all these different companies, the Five Eyes Spy Club, Did you take your phone to the embassy?

01:32:10.000 Did they take your phone back then?

01:32:12.000 Yeah.

01:32:12.000 They did.

01:32:12.000 Yeah.

01:32:13.000 They took my phone.

01:32:14.000 I stopped.

01:32:14.000 I didn't bring it for the later visits.

01:32:17.000 I think the first visit I did.

01:32:19.000 But they made you give all the numbers and everything and they hold it up there.

01:32:23.000 They were spying that whole time.

01:32:24.000 Like they were using your phone.

01:32:26.000 All these journalists who got spied on.

01:32:28.000 There's only like one who's even saying anything like, hey, you guys spied on me. 0.91

01:32:32.000 What the hell?

01:32:32.000 I remember that.

01:32:33.000 All these journalists who visited him over the years are silent, and they get spied on by the U.S.

01:32:33.000 Yeah.

01:32:38.000 government while speaking to a political refugee.

01:32:41.000 It's insane.

01:32:43.000 Do you agree with me about Biden, though?

01:32:44.000 If Biden wins, what they'll do to Assange?

01:32:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:49.000 I hate to even think about it.

01:32:51.000 I mean, I don't think that Trump is much better on this, but I do think that they will be worse.

01:33:00.000 Glenn Greenwald tweeted about this.

01:33:03.000 Someone said, why would Donald Trump want to pardon Edward Snowden?

01:33:06.000 And his response was because Snowden, like, because Trump is mad about how the intelligence agencies and these individuals smeared him with Russia, so yeah, he kind of wants revenge.

01:33:15.000 Right.

01:33:16.000 Isn't there a possibility, like, that Trump is just trying to get the information from Assange, but he wouldn't do what, say, like, a Biden administration would do?

01:33:26.000 I don't know.

01:33:26.000 I mean, he offered him a pardon, you know?

01:33:28.000 Not that I agree with it.

01:33:29.000 I think that's a violation, like a serious violation of journalistic freedoms in the first- Right.

01:33:34.000 For us, the first amendment, I know Julian Assange is not an American citizen, but this is kind of scary, the idea that the U.S.

01:33:39.000 government could target a foreign person.

01:33:41.000 Like, same thing they did with Kim Dotcom. 0.68

01:33:44.000 Yeah.

01:33:44.000 Like, Kim Dotcom was not an American.

01:33:46.000 Why did American resources go into New Zealand and raid this guy's house?

01:33:50.000 They did the same thing to Julian Assange.

01:33:51.000 It's kind of scary when you realize the true power of the United States and their allies and what they'll do if you're not an American. 0.99

01:33:58.000 Yeah, Juice Wrapped News has a great video about that, where they have representatives from each government and they're like, we're America's bitch. 0.99

01:34:06.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:34:06.000 Sorry. 0.98

01:34:07.000 No, that's fine.

01:34:08.000 Highly recommend looking for it, though.

01:34:10.000 Yeah, but they don't do the Wrapped News stuff anymore, Juice Media.

01:34:12.000 Yeah.

01:34:12.000 Now it's like, you know, I've talked to those guys before in the past, but now it's like, so for those unfamiliar, Juice Wrapped News, in like 2010, made some of the most amazing political commentary music videos.

01:34:27.000 I've only really watched that one.

01:34:29.000 in a sense, sort of explaining the gist of some of these things.

01:34:33.000 But now it's like a lot of stuff they produce is just your generic leftist

01:34:38.000 orange man bad.

01:34:39.000 I've only really watched that one.

01:34:41.000 But they're doing the honest government ads now.

01:34:43.000 And it's like, that's what this was.

01:34:46.000 But it was the Julian Assange one.

01:34:48.000 And it was brilliant.

01:34:50.000 Spot on.

01:34:51.000 I gotta tell you, man.

01:34:53.000 Going back into 2010, I remember all the hacker stuff.

01:34:57.000 And that's basically how I know you.

01:34:59.000 It's crazy how the hacker community was like the libertarian left.

01:35:04.000 It was very libertarian, period.

01:35:06.000 But most of these people in the hacker community were not right-wing.

01:35:08.000 They were kind of libertarian, but leaning left.

01:35:11.000 The government started going after these people.

01:35:13.000 They started giving ridiculous charges.

01:35:15.000 And Julian Assange is like the remnant of that, I guess.

01:35:21.000 He's still facing this desperate attack from the U.S.

01:35:25.000 government against left libertarian-style hacker individuals.

01:35:29.000 And they've successfully turned the left against WikiLeaks.

01:35:32.000 When did the left become pro-war?

01:35:35.000 Under Obama.

01:35:36.000 Under Obama.

01:35:37.000 They didn't want to protest him doing the exact same thing that they protested Bush doing.

01:35:41.000 Clinton was pro-war.

01:35:43.000 He was just there with a smile.

01:35:43.000 They all are.

01:35:44.000 I know.

01:35:44.000 Yeah.

01:35:44.000 The left became pro-war after World War II because they want to prevent World War III, so they set up military bases all over the earth.

01:35:52.000 Is that what it was?

01:35:52.000 Yeah.

01:35:53.000 It's called the, well, they call it, Eisenhower called it the Military Industrial Complex.

01:35:57.000 Right, right, right.

01:35:57.000 But what I'm saying is, I remember early 2010s, people protesting.

01:36:04.000 I remember 2000s.

01:36:05.000 War is bad. 0.70

01:36:05.000 Bush is bad. 0.70

01:36:06.000 War is bad. 0.70

01:36:07.000 Then Obama gets in.

01:36:08.000 War is good now. 1.00

01:36:09.000 Yeah, the people that were screaming anti-war weren't left.

01:36:12.000 They were like centrists, the people that... I don't think they're far left.

01:36:15.000 No, but the left was on... So, you know, I'll tell you what it was.

01:36:17.000 Maybe they were anti-Bush too.

01:36:19.000 No, it was because I was coming of age during Bush.

01:36:23.000 I was a teenager during Bush, seeing all of these people claim to be my ally and my friend saying war is bad.

01:36:29.000 And I genuinely thought war was bad. 0.52

01:36:31.000 I'm like, I look at this stuff and this is bad.

01:36:33.000 And then as soon as Obama got elected, I'm still standing there holding the sign saying war is bad.

01:36:37.000 And they go, we're going to get out of here.

01:36:39.000 And I'm like, but war is bad.

01:36:40.000 Yeah, but our guy won, so it's all you, buddy.

01:36:42.000 Right, the identitarian split.

01:36:44.000 You know, F the identitarian anti-war guys, because they'll go off with their candidate when he wins and go to war with them.

01:36:50.000 You mean tribalist.

01:36:51.000 Yeah, or whatever.

01:36:52.000 Identitarian is a reference to, like... People that worship somebody.

01:36:54.000 That's not identitarian.

01:36:55.000 It's the anti-war concept that pervades.

01:37:00.000 Forget who's in charge.

01:37:01.000 If they're going to war, you've got to turn on them.

01:37:03.000 You've got to stop the war. 0.97

01:37:05.000 I think there are instances where war is unfortunate, but good. 0.99

01:37:10.000 I think there are a lot of instances where the U.S. 0.99

01:37:12.000 is engaging in extremely stupid and bad war that's just bad for us. 0.98

01:37:16.000 But it's like, you get some zealot who wants to go and is mad about how someone tried to kill his dad, and we end up in 20 years of war in the Middle East, which, for what? 0.99

01:37:24.000 Can we even talk about what we gain from this?

01:37:26.000 And now all of a sudden, I'm sitting here like, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, eh, I'm not gonna vote for a Republican, I'm not Hillary Clinton, she wants war.

01:37:33.000 And then Trump wins, and now he's the guy who hasn't started a war.

01:37:35.000 He's the guy who's got historic peace agreements in the Middle East.

01:37:37.000 He's the guy who's withdrawing our troops, and I'm like, I still think war is bad.

01:37:41.000 Hello?

01:37:42.000 Left?

01:37:42.000 No.

01:37:43.000 They're complaining about Trump doing this.

01:37:45.000 And you know what bothers me?

01:37:46.000 I don't understand The Intercept, Glenn Greenwald's outlet, because he's complained about Russiagate.

01:37:54.000 Here, here, Russiagate was nonsense.

01:37:56.000 He complains about the media.

01:37:57.000 I totally agree, Glenn.

01:37:58.000 He says, here's criticism of Trump.

01:38:00.000 And I'm like, man, right there.

01:38:02.000 And then he says, this is really great that Trump is ending war.

01:38:04.000 I'm like, dude, Glenn, this is fantastic.

01:38:06.000 Yeah.

01:38:06.000 So we voting for Trump now and he goes, no, his outlet starts putting on all Trump is bad.

01:38:10.000 You know, the far left is good.

01:38:11.000 And I'm like, what?

01:38:13.000 Yeah.

01:38:13.000 Tribal with that tribalism.

01:38:14.000 It's it's, it's almost like.

01:38:16.000 Glenn Greenwald is part of that left libertarian hacker kind of thing that

01:38:21.000 happened and he is still too, he's pulled into this weird new left that is either

01:38:29.000 identitarian or pro war establishments, you know, cabal.

01:38:35.000 I think he's identitarian, Glenn Greenwald.

01:38:37.000 He just doesn't like Trump.

01:38:39.000 I don't think he's an identitarian.

01:38:41.000 He criticizes the woke SJW stuff.

01:38:43.000 Right, but he dislikes Trump so much.

01:38:46.000 That's just tribalist.

01:38:48.000 That's just orange man bad.

01:38:50.000 Maybe I'm conflating the words identitarian and tribalist.

01:38:53.000 I think you're right.

01:38:54.000 I think there's too many people on the left who refuse to accept that they are better off with Trump than with Joe Biden.

01:39:01.000 I don't care.

01:39:01.000 That's what I was saying when you're talking about this phone call with Arthur.

01:39:05.000 If someone called me and said that, I'd be like, yeah, F you.

01:39:09.000 Click. 0.53

01:39:10.000 I don't care.

01:39:11.000 I don't care if it's Trump.

01:39:13.000 I don't care if it's Biden.

01:39:14.000 I don't care if it's Hillary.

01:39:15.000 You tell me something that's good, I'll give you credit for it.

01:39:17.000 And if I think you're doing a good enough job, I will vote for you for it.

01:39:20.000 The riots flipped me.

01:39:21.000 Yeah.

01:39:22.000 I was like, I remember last year, I was like, I'm never gonna vote for this Trump. 0.95

01:39:25.000 Are you crazy?

01:39:26.000 It'll never happen. 0.54

01:39:27.000 Nothing will ever change my fire explosions.

01:39:29.000 I knew you were gonna change your mind.

01:39:31.000 And I'm like, so where's the vote for Trump box?

01:39:32.000 Is it set?

01:39:33.000 I'm gonna press this button right here.

01:39:35.000 You said earlier you thought that some wars are good.

01:39:37.000 Yeah.

01:39:38.000 Like?

01:39:38.000 World War II.

01:39:40.000 Defensive wars?

01:39:42.000 That's bad, but we have to do it, right?

01:39:44.000 If we get invaded, which we've never been invaded.

01:39:47.000 Well, maybe like, if you go way back and talk about like the territories and stuff, you know, we've had conflict in our in our on our own ground.

01:39:54.000 But in modern history, all of the conflicts we fought have been going other places.

01:39:59.000 And it's usually been like we've had a lot of failures. 1.00

01:40:02.000 The US has had a lot of stupid failures. 1.00

01:40:04.000 Korea, Vietnam. 1.00

01:40:06.000 I wouldn't necessarily say Korea was a failure.

01:40:07.000 I'm actually kind of happy the U.S.

01:40:10.000 went to Korea.

01:40:10.000 Because my family, I probably wouldn't be here if the U.S.

01:40:13.000 didn't intervene.

01:40:14.000 But it still split the country in half.

01:40:16.000 Vietnam was a disaster.

01:40:18.000 And the Gulf of Tonkin was complete B.S.

01:40:20.000 What got us into the war was complete B.S.

01:40:21.000 Afghanistan and Iraq, complete disasters. 1.00

01:40:23.000 And all the other stupid, you know, incursion excursions that we do in South and Central America. 1.00

01:40:28.000 America does a lot of really dumb things for a lot of really dumb reasons. 0.99

01:40:31.000 But World War II, I understand. 0.99

01:40:34.000 World War II is like... I mean, look, right now we're looking... Here's one of the most difficult questions.

01:40:39.000 We're looking at China.

01:40:41.000 China's got concentration camps, man.

01:40:43.000 They're harvesting organs.

01:40:45.000 The things they're doing to these people is what nightmares are made of.

01:40:49.000 Then we've got the oppression in Hong Kong as well, and they're expanding.

01:40:52.000 They're doing strike groups going through the South China Sea past Taiwan, and there's fears that they're going to try and seize Taiwan.

01:41:01.000 They claim Taiwan is part of China.

01:41:03.000 Taiwan says otherwise.

01:41:04.000 There's going to be a major conflict.

01:41:06.000 What do we do?

01:41:07.000 I'm anti-intervention, always.

01:41:10.000 Even if it's a million people having their organs harvested?

01:41:13.000 Always.

01:41:14.000 See, for me, I wouldn't say I'm absolutely against intervention, but I'm, when it comes to intervention, leaning away from it, but will entertain it if there's an atrocity happening.

01:41:23.000 Even when we've went into war with the best intentions, there's always unintended consequences.

01:41:30.000 I mean, look at what happened with Libya.

01:41:32.000 We went in there, we destabilized a whole bunch of things, and now they have open-air slave markets. 0.97

01:41:40.000 Even if we're doing something and selling it to the public as As good.

01:41:46.000 There's always going to be a drawback, and I firmly believe in only engaging in war if the U.S. 0.52

01:41:52.000 is directly threatened, or if it's in our national interest in a way that, you know, there's no other option.

01:42:00.000 Should we have intervened in World War II?

01:42:02.000 No.

01:42:03.000 I don't think so.

01:42:04.000 And I don't think we should have entered World War I, and I think that World War II wouldn't have happened without World War I. 0.94

01:42:09.000 That's an interesting point because I was talking to Michael Malice about this and I had a very generic

01:42:13.000 Ignorant view of World War one and I need to do my homework on it, but he mentioned it was a war of alliances

01:42:19.000 Yeah, World War two was clear-cut like this. What what the what Nazi Germany was doing was just like 0.90

01:42:25.000 Evil. Well, oh, yeah, we didn't even enter World War two to stop the Holocaust it 1.00

01:42:33.000 People didn't even know about the stuff that was happening.

01:42:36.000 The debate here was about was America First people and like there was actually an America First committee back then.

01:42:44.000 It disbanded right when Pearl Harbor was attacked.

01:42:47.000 But the argument was about whether or not we should be engaging in European conflict.

01:42:53.000 and whether or not we should be helping England.

01:42:56.000 It had nothing to do with stopping atrocities because nobody knew and a lot of this didn't start until later.

01:43:03.000 So, that's not why we entered World War II.

01:43:08.000 We entered World War II to help England.

01:43:14.000 Technically we entered because Pearl Harbor got attacked, but they had been pushing for it because... Well, I think it's fair to point out we got attacked by Japan and then sent soldiers to Europe. 0.73

01:43:23.000 But I mean, hindsight being 20-20, and I think that's not necessarily the best point, I think it ended up being good.

01:43:31.000 We ended what they were doing, but now we know what China is doing. 0.90

01:43:34.000 So I'm not saying we should have an intervention into China or anything like that.

01:43:38.000 I mean, I support defending our country.

01:43:49.000 I support defending our borders.

01:43:51.000 If there's something that's in our national interest that is Unavoidable.

01:43:56.000 I support it in that case.

01:43:57.000 And I'm not going to sit here and say that it was bad to stop Nazi Germany, but I do think that there were consequences of that. 0.97

01:44:05.000 And I think that, you know, look at Dresden, look at what happened, or yeah, look at what happened all over Germany and how many people died and how many of our people died for something that had nothing to do with us.

01:44:16.000 And they were killing a lot of people.

01:44:18.000 So a lot of people ended up living because we came right.

01:44:21.000 And I fully agree with that.

01:44:23.000 It's just there.

01:44:25.000 There are consequences to these things.

01:44:27.000 And now because of World War Two and that being successful, they argue this for every intervention.

01:44:33.000 They say, well, what would you have wanted Hitler to win?

01:44:36.000 Would you want to be speaking German right now?

01:44:39.000 And so they've used this to justify everything that's come later.

01:44:44.000 And so a lot of people have died because of it.

01:44:47.000 I agree, I agree.

01:44:48.000 That's just my opinion.

01:44:49.000 I agree.

01:44:50.000 I think there's been a lot of mistakes where the U.S.

01:44:52.000 has intervened and failed, and then World War II becomes the key example of why it's good, because that was really important that that ended, that we shut those people down. 0.96

01:45:04.000 The challenge now is how do we deal with China? 0.99

01:45:06.000 I mean, look, I don't believe the United States of the world are the world's police, but I do have a concern that we're watching China arm up. 0.84

01:45:14.000 We're watching them abuse their neighbors. 0.62

01:45:17.000 Potential war with India could happen, and India is an ally of ours.

01:45:21.000 And so we're seeing the atrocities they commit.

01:45:24.000 We're seeing them defy international law and norms, setting up military bases on the South China Sea atolls and things like that, or the Pacific atolls.

01:45:32.000 They're spreading, encroaching, and becoming more and more powerful.

01:45:37.000 I don't like the idea of just intervention.

01:45:40.000 We don't like what they're doing.

01:45:41.000 They may threaten us preemptive war.

01:45:43.000 That's a terrible idea.

01:45:45.000 The other side of that coin is if we sit back while they expand in South America and Africa, gaining resources and buying out all these countries, eventually you'll be living in an authoritarian communist country.

01:45:57.000 Right.

01:45:57.000 And China is an interesting case because I think they own farmland in the U.S.

01:46:04.000 that I think is equal to the size of Ohio.

01:46:07.000 My boyfriend, Brett McDonald, has wrote about this extensively.

01:46:11.000 But they are buying a lot of land here, and I don't agree with that either.

01:46:15.000 And I think China is an interesting case And there are arguments to be made for intervening there.

01:46:23.000 But when you're talking about intervention broadly, you have to think about why you care about these atrocities.

01:46:30.000 Because there's atrocities all over the world at any given time.

01:46:33.000 I mean, look at Yemen.

01:46:35.000 But they don't want you to care about Yemen.

01:46:37.000 They want you to care about Venezuela.

01:46:39.000 Why is that?

01:46:40.000 And so they pick and choose the atrocities that they want to highlight and the ones that we need to save people from.

01:46:47.000 And there's always another motive for it.

01:46:50.000 And I guarantee that the weapons manufacturers are not concerned about the fact that people are starving.

01:46:56.000 That's not why they want to go there.

01:46:58.000 We've had drone strikes in Yemen.

01:47:00.000 We had Obama killing Americans.

01:47:02.000 Abdul Rahman al-Awlaki, I believe, was in Yemen killing an American citizen without charge or trial and then saying, oopsie.

01:47:07.000 Well, Luke got that great video.

01:47:09.000 He confronted his press secretary and was like- Luke Rutkowski of We Are Change.

01:47:12.000 Yeah, he was like, um, and he comments about the fact that you guys killed an American teenager, and I think it was his press secretary was like, he should have had a different father.

01:47:20.000 A better dad.

01:47:21.000 A better father, yeah.

01:47:22.000 Is that why he was killed?

01:47:23.000 Yeah.

01:47:24.000 In my opinion?

01:47:25.000 Maybe it's a little bit conspiratorial, but I kind of feel like, for those that aren't familiar, there's a man named Anwar al-Awlaki.

01:47:30.000 He was preaching jihad against the U.S.

01:47:32.000 Obama drone-striked him.

01:47:34.000 And then two weeks later, I think it was, in a country we were not at war with, they drone-striked a civilian restaurant, killing his 16-year-old son, who I believe was born in like Boulder, Colorado.

01:47:44.000 Yeah, it was Colorado. 0.94

01:47:46.000 That sounds to me like Obama saying, we will kill your children if you F with us. 0.98

01:47:52.000 The official story was, we were targeting someone else, it was a mistake. 0.97

01:47:55.000 The question then is, why were we targeting someone at a civilian restaurant in a country we are not at war with? 0.61

01:48:00.000 Because they don't care.

01:48:01.000 Yeah, it's like a kid with a magnifying glass from above just dropping a bomb on a restaurant.

01:48:05.000 And that stuff causes harm to America.

01:48:08.000 It's what CIA called it, blowback.

01:48:11.000 Could you imagine you blow up a restaurant?

01:48:13.000 There's gonna be people there, like some dad's gonna watch this.

01:48:16.000 He's gonna be across the street, it's gonna be movie-esque, and he's gonna see a restaurant get blown up, and they're gonna see the drone, they're gonna be panicking, his kid's gonna be gone, and that guy's gonna become radicalized in an instant.

01:48:26.000 And he's gonna do everything in his power against us because somebody made a mistake, to go with the establishment narrative.

01:48:32.000 I can't claim otherwise, I have no evidence.

01:48:34.000 But then all of a sudden you end up with terror, conflict, and refugees. 1.00

01:48:39.000 People fleeing these countries, their homes destroyed, and that creates even more conflict.

01:48:43.000 And you know what?

01:48:44.000 There are people who strive on this stuff, thrive on this stuff.

01:48:46.000 They love it, they profit off of it, and the rest of us suffer because of it.

01:48:50.000 So anyway... Well, that's why WikiLeaks is so important.

01:48:54.000 I'm not saying... They show you the true cost of war, and then you can make an informed decision as a public.

01:49:00.000 But to be fair, I mean, with WikiLeaks, how often have they released documents on China?

01:49:07.000 I'm not actually sure, but they've released a lot of documents that don't get as much exposure as U.S.

01:49:13.000 stuff.

01:49:14.000 I mean, they've released tons of files on even Russia.

01:49:14.000 For sure.

01:49:18.000 People are always like, how come they've never done anything on Russia?

01:49:20.000 And there are cables on Russia.

01:49:23.000 Go on their website and search.

01:49:24.000 You'll find anything there.

01:49:26.000 I think there was like one point where someone asked Julian that or something and he was like, these files are already public.

01:49:30.000 They were like, why didn't you release these files?

01:49:31.000 They were public.

01:49:32.000 Someone sent us files that were already public, so we ignored it.

01:49:36.000 And I think Julian probably does what he thinks, or he was, I don't know what his capacity is now because of what's happening to him, but he probably focused on what he thought was the most important.

01:49:46.000 And I'm not saying you have to agree with what he thinks is important.

01:49:50.000 But I will argue that one of the arguments against WikiLeaks is that he was consistently targeting the US.

01:49:59.000 And if you're only hitting us over and over and over again, it's going to be helping our adversaries.

01:50:04.000 That's not true, though.

01:50:05.000 They just don't get as much coverage.

01:50:08.000 You know, he's released all kinds of things from all the different nations all over the country, but we're not going to talk about those cables as much here.

01:50:08.000 Right.

01:50:17.000 I mean, you can pull up WikiLeaks right now and type in any nation and you're probably going to find thousands of documents.

01:50:22.000 Yeah.

01:50:24.000 It just depends what our media wants to cover.

01:50:28.000 Our media isn't interested in things that are anti-war or things that, you know, make certain governments look bad.

01:50:37.000 So, you know, I think that people are blaming Julian for the failings of the media on that argument.

01:50:45.000 Definitely.

01:50:46.000 Because the New York Times got us into the wars and other big mainstream outlets.

01:50:51.000 They lied to us.

01:50:53.000 Man.

01:50:54.000 It's funny how a lot of my political views were shaped by growing up during this time.

01:51:00.000 And it's kind of crazy when I think about how much I don't know from even 10 years before I was born.

01:51:05.000 Like the context of how the media operated.

01:51:08.000 I wonder if I was 10 years older and I saw the flip, how it's like pro-war Democrat, then anti-war under Bush, and then pro-war under Obama again.

01:51:16.000 I would have been sort of insulated from seeing, you know, from believing that the Democrats had my best interest.

01:51:22.000 that they really thought war was bad.

01:51:22.000 Yeah.

01:51:24.000 And then I learned the hard way, I love it.

01:51:26.000 When I voted for Obama in 2008, I'm like smiling, hanging out with my friends,

01:51:30.000 and I was like, you know, I was a skateboarder, I was kind of punk, I was kind of moving

01:51:34.000 a little bit away from the far left.

01:51:35.000 And then people were telling me like, dude, Obama's not one of these establishment people.

01:51:39.000 He's like an up and coming dude, he's a regular guy.

01:51:41.000 And I'm like, cool.

01:51:42.000 And I went in, I'm like, yeah, Obama.

01:51:44.000 And then the first thing Obama does when he gets inaugurated is, I think it was an airstrike

01:51:49.000 on a village killing women and children.

01:51:50.000 And I was like, ah, wait a minute, what?

01:51:54.000 You told me that was bad.

01:51:55.000 They're like, no, no, no, no, it's good, it's good.

01:51:56.000 It's like, what do you mean it's good?

01:51:57.000 You told me nonstop it was bad.

01:51:59.000 I voted for this guy.

01:52:00.000 These are hope and change drones.

01:52:02.000 Oh, that's right.

01:52:03.000 The missile said hope, and the Reaper said hope, and the Hellfire said change.

01:52:11.000 Hope and change blew up those women and children. 0.88

01:52:12.000 When they got in, they did that Let's Move campaign.

01:52:14.000 I don't know if you guys remember, Michelle Obama had a Let's Move campaign, and it was originally about cutting sugar out of your diet.

01:52:21.000 And the sugar industry did not like that, so they got their fingers in there and then switched it and made it into an exercise campaign.

01:52:28.000 That sugar industry is insidious, man.

01:52:30.000 It's one of the most addictive drugs on earth.

01:52:32.000 Sugar! 1.00

01:52:33.000 And it's like the tobacco industry of the 70s selling sugar to kids.

01:52:35.000 People don't realize this.

01:52:37.000 All war. 0.71

01:52:38.000 All conspiracy.

01:52:38.000 All conflict.

01:52:40.000 Sugar industry.

01:52:42.000 And there's like a guy selling candy canes with shifty eyes.

01:52:42.000 Big sugar.

01:52:45.000 You know how there's this military industrial complex that they built after World War II?

01:52:49.000 It was like the British and the English and the French just wanted to prevent World War III.

01:52:52.000 I wonder if there's a Chinese military industrial complex that we don't hear anything about.

01:52:56.000 Oh yeah, of course.

01:52:57.000 Or if it's all one complex.

01:52:58.000 Dude, do you know the name of the Chinese state, like, spy agency?

01:53:03.000 No.

01:53:03.000 They just call it Beijing.

01:53:05.000 Yeah.

01:53:06.000 What was it?

01:53:07.000 That was in a show.

01:53:08.000 Someone was talking about it, but it's a good point.

01:53:10.000 Like, the CIA, the KGB, or what is the Russian thing now?

01:53:14.000 FSB, I think?

01:53:15.000 Yeah.

01:53:17.000 And they just say Beijing.

01:53:18.000 I think that was like a Mission Impossible movie or something.

01:53:20.000 Unless there actually is a name.

01:53:22.000 I know they have like this, they just call it the State Ministry of Service or something like that.

01:53:27.000 But yeah, there definitely is.

01:53:28.000 Trump was talking about this.

01:53:30.000 Now, you gotta admit, war is bad. 0.97

01:53:32.000 But don't you love Trump's blunt honesty on this stuff?

01:53:36.000 Because one of my all-time favorite things Trump has ever done was when he walked up to the reporters and they're like, what's going on with this weapons deal?

01:53:42.000 Oh, it's really great.

01:53:43.000 We're giving all of these weapons to Saudi Arabia.

01:53:45.000 We're gonna make a lot of money, you know?

01:53:47.000 And then all the anti-war people were like, I was horrified.

01:53:50.000 But he just said it.

01:53:52.000 He just came out and admitted war profiteering, essentially.

01:53:52.000 Yeah.

01:53:56.000 And I'm like, but he also calls out the military industrial complex.

01:54:01.000 Like he's done it twice now and like solid.

01:54:05.000 What he's talking about Syria and he's like, you know what I love?

01:54:07.000 I think he does it on purpose to get at them.

01:54:10.000 Trump wanted to withdraw from Syria and they all started complaining, oh no, oh no, the oil, the oil.

01:54:15.000 So Trump left soldiers in and now he's just like, we're withdrawing our troops from Syria, but we're keeping the oil so the soldiers are still there to guard the oil.

01:54:23.000 That's what we're doing.

01:54:24.000 But we're getting, I think he's saying it specifically as like a, That's what the U.S.

01:54:28.000 is doing.

01:54:29.000 That's what they wanted.

01:54:31.000 They complained when he wanted to get our troops out, and that's what we're there for.

01:54:34.000 The oil and the poppy seeds, basically.

01:54:38.000 In Afghanistan.

01:54:39.000 Can't we grow poppy here? 1.00

01:54:41.000 I don't know.

01:54:42.000 Lemon poppy muffins are fantastic.

01:54:43.000 They're delicious.

01:54:44.000 Other than oil and poppy seeds, I don't know why we're over there.

01:54:47.000 All right, well, we got a bunch of super chats, but I got a question.

01:54:49.000 What do you think's gonna happen November 3rd?

01:54:51.000 Oh, I think Trump's gonna win.

01:54:53.000 Easy.

01:54:54.000 But you don't think they're cheating?

01:54:55.000 Well, I mean, that's possible, but I also thought they were going to cheat in 2016 and he still won.

01:55:01.000 Yeah, but look at all this mail-in voting stuff.

01:55:03.000 It does feel like they're cheating.

01:55:04.000 I mean, you're with me on election night.

01:55:06.000 I think I won the office pool because everybody went for Hillary and I'm the one person over there.

01:55:13.000 I walked in and they were all like, you're going to have such a bad night tonight.

01:55:16.000 I'm so sorry.

01:55:17.000 All condescending.

01:55:18.000 And I was laughing.

01:55:20.000 I was laughing.

01:55:22.000 I didn't care.

01:55:22.000 I didn't vote for Trump.

01:55:23.000 I was just like, comeuppance.

01:55:26.000 Because I was for Bernie.

01:55:27.000 And before you were for Trump, you were for Bernie.

01:55:30.000 And so when... I think Bernie sold out as of recent.

01:55:33.000 But when they stole it from him, and then I was just like, you know what?

01:55:37.000 I'm so over this.

01:55:38.000 Obama, you know, tricked me.

01:55:39.000 I felt duped by that.

01:55:41.000 Then Bernie comes along and I'm like, alright, here's a guy who's consistent.

01:55:44.000 And then he's doing the same thing.

01:55:46.000 The DNC steals it.

01:55:47.000 When Hillary lost, I was just loving it.

01:55:50.000 I was laughing.

01:55:51.000 They sent me home.

01:55:52.000 They were like, you can go.

01:55:53.000 Just go.

01:55:54.000 I was supposed to work until 3am.

01:55:56.000 So I took the pot money, like the office pool money, and went and bought up all the champagne at Trump Hotel just to spend their money on it.

01:56:04.000 I remember sitting there with you and we were looking at the meter that was like 99% for Hillary and it was slowly shifting and you were like, you were starting to cry once it crossed 50% and I started laughing.

01:56:15.000 I'm like, How is this happening?

01:56:17.000 And then I remember like everyone in the office like all these liberals were glow like in the beginning

01:56:23.000 They were like being sassy and mocking Trump and laughing like because Trump announced like they announced he was

01:56:28.000 gonna sue Nevada or something And there was that one guy goes like oh here it comes and

01:56:32.000 they're all laughing and that And then when that New York Times meter started shifting

01:56:36.000 towards Trump, the looks on their faces, their faces go white.

01:56:40.000 All of a sudden there are people that are sweating.

01:56:42.000 You're like almost laughing and crying tears of joy.

01:56:44.000 I'm just laughing.

01:56:45.000 All these people are like crying about it.

01:56:48.000 Like dude, why is your identity tied so much to this?

01:56:53.000 I don't understand.

01:56:54.000 This world is so beautiful and vast.

01:56:55.000 You can do so much without politics.

01:56:57.000 I don't know.

01:56:58.000 I think it's pretty important this year.

01:57:00.000 I agree.

01:57:01.000 I'm just saying like, I tell you what, if Trump loses, this is why I'm in the middle of nowhere.

01:57:07.000 I'm gonna take care of myself.

01:57:09.000 It's funny because I'm like bordering on prepper.

01:57:11.000 I got all this emergency food.

01:57:13.000 To be honest, it's like hamburger helper kind of stuff.

01:57:15.000 It's good stuff, yeah.

01:57:16.000 They sell pepper food at my country store, at the country store by my house.

01:57:19.000 It's like the closest place to my house because I'm really deep out there.

01:57:23.000 Spam lasts for five years.

01:57:26.000 Yeah, luncheon meat.

01:57:27.000 I'm vegetarian.

01:57:28.000 I gotta do vegetarian prepping.

01:57:30.000 Well, it's like chickpeas.

01:57:32.000 Let's see how long they last.

01:57:33.000 I'm not saying I think the world's going to end tomorrow.

01:57:35.000 I'm just saying I think if Joe Biden wins, the erosion of civil liberties, the loss of ability to defend yourself, I think it's going to shift dramatically away from individual rights towards mob justice, morality policing, and identitarianism.

01:57:49.000 So for me, you know, I think I just want to be left alone.

01:57:56.000 I want to live my life.

01:57:57.000 I want to do my thing.

01:57:58.000 That's who I am.

01:58:00.000 I'm a skateboarder.

01:58:01.000 Skateboarders are individualists for the most part.

01:58:03.000 We do our thing.

01:58:04.000 Just please let me live my life.

01:58:05.000 And I think a lot of Americans feel that way.

01:58:08.000 If Joe Biden wins, you will get the opposite of that.

01:58:11.000 This guy who got indicted for defending himself from being attacked, the homeowners who are getting arrested, the mob will show up to your house and Joe Biden's going to be like, you know, the thing.

01:58:24.000 Sure.

01:58:24.000 So when, uh, so I'll address this one more time.

01:58:26.000 Then we'll jump over to super chats to get people's comments and questions.

01:58:29.000 You mentioned this is Trump's America.

01:58:31.000 What's happening right now.

01:58:32.000 It is, but these things, these things are happening in Democrat controlled places for

01:58:36.000 the most part, not Republican controlled places.

01:58:39.000 It is Trump's America, but Trump is taking a hard stance against it and offering up all

01:58:44.000 of the resources at his disposal to shut it down.

01:58:47.000 It's the best he can do without the Insurrection Act.

01:58:49.000 The Democrats are saying no and watching everything burn.

01:58:52.000 Here's what scares me.

01:58:53.000 If Joe Biden gets in, you think he'll offer up federal resources?

01:58:56.000 No, he'll do what the Democrats are doing.

01:58:58.000 He'll say the exact same thing they're saying.

01:58:59.000 We support peaceful protests.

01:59:01.000 That's right.

01:59:02.000 Congratulations.

01:59:03.000 I don't know.

01:59:05.000 You covered Ferguson, same as I did.

01:59:07.000 They sent in the National Guard and then everybody to shut that down.

01:59:11.000 That was Obama who did that, and they didn't cry about it the way that they are with Trump.

01:59:16.000 I think they'll do the same thing.

01:59:18.000 If that's the case, then I will double down on voting for Trump because I do not vote based on threats.

01:59:24.000 Yeah.

01:59:25.000 If the argument is that once they get in power, then they'll agree to stop the riots, then I'm going to say F you and I'm going to go vote for Trump.

01:59:32.000 And I think they've been doing that.

01:59:32.000 Right.

01:59:34.000 I mean, look what they did with Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

01:59:36.000 They were like... Yeah, we're going to burn it down.

01:59:38.000 Yeah.

01:59:40.000 You know, Joe Biden's trying so hard to get away from the riots.

01:59:44.000 He's like begging, I'm not about riots, I'm not about riots.

01:59:47.000 And then Ruth Bader Ginsburg passes and all of a sudden all these leftists are like, we're going to destroy the country.

01:59:52.000 And now Trump's going to have all of that.

01:59:54.000 Yeah.

01:59:54.000 of it. And then they, and they still, they're going out and rioting again. So I do, I do think it's dumb when Trump

02:00:00.000 says in Biden's America, this will happen. And I'm like, but it's 0.70

02:00:03.000 happening now.

02:00:04.000 Yeah, that's my point. But But I think it's, I think it's fair. There's a possibility

02:00:09.000 that once the Democrats get power, like Hillary Clinton said,

02:00:12.000 remember, we can have civility once we've won. That's a threat.

02:00:16.000 You come to me and tell me to like, it's like this, if I'm sitting down and you come to me and go, if I'm sitting down and you walk up to me and say, keep sitting there, I'll stand up.

02:00:25.000 You tell me to, if I'm sitting down, you tell me to stand up, I'll say no and I'll cross my legs.

02:00:25.000 Yeah.

02:00:29.000 You know me, I'm a hermit.

02:00:30.000 I do not like going out.

02:00:32.000 I don't like leaving my house.

02:00:33.000 I like to be at home doing nothing.

02:00:36.000 But then as soon as I had to stay home and couldn't leave my house, I was like, I need to go to a bar.

02:00:42.000 So same.

02:00:45.000 Let's take some Super Chats.

02:00:48.000 I went a little bit long into 10, just because we had that first 20 minutes of everything was broken.

02:00:54.000 And so I'm like, we'll keep going.

02:00:56.000 Hopefully it's working now.

02:00:57.000 I guess it's working, right?

02:00:58.000 I think so.

02:00:59.000 Yeah, chat seems to be happy.

02:00:59.000 Hopefully!

02:01:02.000 We'll read some of the Super Chats. 0.99

02:01:03.000 There's probably going to be a lot that are saying it's broken or whatever.

02:01:07.000 The first super chat we have from Matthew Heman says, Cassandra is great on camera and changed my mind on Assange and Snowden.

02:01:13.000 Both must be pardoned.

02:01:15.000 Non-political question.

02:01:16.000 What are your thoughts on Microsoft buying Bethesda?

02:01:19.000 Will you buy an Xbox Series X?

02:01:22.000 No, and I'm really sad about Bethesda because I feel like the past few games have been kind of... meh.

02:01:28.000 Yeah.

02:01:28.000 Well, actually, I mean, I'm really excited for the new Elder Scrolls.

02:01:31.000 This is the first I've heard of this.

02:01:32.000 I didn't know it was gonna happen either.

02:01:34.000 Wow.

02:01:35.000 Yeah, I haven't been keeping up on that at all.

02:01:36.000 I've been counting down for Cyberpunk.

02:01:41.000 That's the only video game news I've been paying attention to.

02:01:43.000 Corporate conglomeration makes me a little nervous because you don't need a lot of money to make a great game, but Fallout 76 sucked.

02:01:48.000 Yeah, it did.

02:01:50.000 Alright, let's see.

02:01:53.000 Colin P says, YouTube sent David Pakman a cake for reaching 1 million subs.

02:01:58.000 Why didn't you get a cake, Tim?

02:01:59.000 Cake-gate.

02:02:00.000 I didn't get a cake.

02:02:02.000 I didn't get one of those big golden award things.

02:02:04.000 And my second channel is like 50k subs away from another million, so... They'll send you a cake.

02:02:08.000 You know what?

02:02:10.000 Congrats to David Pakman.

02:02:11.000 He does hard work and he's got a great show.

02:02:14.000 I'll bring you over a cake.

02:02:15.000 I don't want to eat cake, man.

02:02:18.000 Shout out to David Pakman.

02:02:19.000 How'd you get that cake, man?

02:02:21.000 To David?

02:02:22.000 Yeah.

02:02:23.000 I gotta be honest.

02:02:23.000 What kind of cake was it?

02:02:25.000 They could send me a nice array of flavored meats.

02:02:30.000 We had the exotic jerky for the show for a while.

02:02:32.000 We don't have it here now, but we have alligator and ostrich and stuff.

02:02:36.000 So if YouTube wants to send me some ostrich jerky or kangaroo or something...

02:02:40.000 Don't eat kangaroos.

02:02:41.000 They're so cute.

02:02:42.000 They carry their babies around. 0.51

02:02:45.000 You're terrible. 0.93

02:02:46.000 We have vegan jerky.

02:02:48.000 I love vegan jerky.

02:02:49.000 I'll eat primal strips all day.

02:02:50.000 The mushroom one is really good.

02:02:52.000 Yeah.

02:02:53.000 Yeah, he likes it.

02:02:54.000 Here we go, we got some more here.

02:02:55.000 Sixumpertieranus says, Dem's rhetoric is pushing civil war.

02:02:59.000 Don't pop that cork, for there won't be any ROEs for you to hide behind from men like me.

02:03:05.000 We will defend our family, country, and freedom to the death from anyone.

02:03:09.000 I gotta say, man, I think conservatives really do overestimate their ability to win a civil war.

02:03:15.000 I was very confident about three months ago and now I'm very concerned because the police keep following orders to arrest business owners and people in their own homes and it's like The right always says the police and the military will side with us, but they're not.

02:03:36.000 And it just depends on if they're in a Democrat city or Republican city.

02:03:40.000 And what happens when all the tech infrastructure shuts down for all the conservatives?

02:03:45.000 Yeah.

02:03:46.000 What happens when every single TV in the country, they go on the air and it's Joe Biden giving an address saying Donald Trump has lost the election and is now trying to stage a coup when in fact Trump won?

02:03:55.000 Right.

02:03:56.000 People are going to be like, Biden won.

02:03:58.000 He said it.

02:03:59.000 I believe it.

02:04:00.000 And that's it.

02:04:00.000 Get your ham radios now, ladies and gentlemen.

02:04:03.000 I think out here we could hold our own for a while.

02:04:05.000 I mean, they talk about Antifa coming into my neighborhood at the country store and stuff.

02:04:09.000 And they're like, we're waiting.

02:04:11.000 We're ready.

02:04:11.000 We're locked and loaded.

02:04:13.000 No, they wouldn't, but... We should all avoid Civil War America. 0.80

02:04:17.000 It could go on for like 12 years.

02:04:19.000 It could be the most destructive, bloody devastation.

02:04:22.000 It could be permanent.

02:04:24.000 And then another country could come in and take over our country in the middle of it, like China. 0.98

02:04:28.000 I wouldn't be opposed to a peaceful separation, though.

02:04:32.000 I think it's a bad idea.

02:04:33.000 I think just because we have... You know the progressives make up like 8-10% of the country.

02:04:38.000 You have regular liberals who aren't paying attention.

02:04:40.000 I swear, man.

02:04:42.000 I've mentioned this several times, but I had a two-hour conversation with a friend of mine who's very progressive.

02:04:47.000 And we were talking about, you know, she doesn't want to vote for Biden because she hates him,

02:04:51.000 but she won't vote for Trump. And I said, I'm going to vote for Trump.

02:04:53.000 And then she mentioned something about he's inciting the violence. He's making it worse.

02:04:58.000 And she said, look at Kyle Rittenhouse, a white supremacist who like goes to this place to like 0.98

02:05:03.000 kill peaceful protesters. And I was like, no, no, no suspended from Twitter for saying that

02:05:08.000 he did nothing wrong. And he's not been been convicted of a crime. We're screwed. Right. So, so

02:05:12.000 here, exactly. That's, that's, that's my point. I was like, people like my friend don't

02:05:15.000 know. They haven't seen the videos.

02:05:17.000 They haven't looked at the evidence, but the progressives are manipulating them. Yeah. And

02:05:22.000 the progressives are a tiny fraction. We cannot give up New York simply because progressives

02:05:26.000 are manipulating the media. And I think maybe they're probably thinking the same thing about

02:05:32.000 Biden, but if there's a Trump landslide on par with Reagan, just like, you know, 49 states

02:05:37.000 or whatever, maybe that'll finally shock all of these businesses.

02:05:41.000 Hey, you're going to lose money.

02:05:42.000 You're going to shut down.

02:05:42.000 You can't do this.

02:05:43.000 The problem is how many of the cultists work within these companies already and can use existing law against them.

02:05:49.000 Yeah.

02:05:50.000 Equal civil rights law exists and can be weaponized.

02:05:53.000 We got a super chat here from DJ Zeno. 0.94

02:05:55.000 He says, Holy crap, Tim. 0.81

02:05:56.000 I feel your frustration with the tech. 0.99

02:05:58.000 Legit watching your concentration face made me think of myself running the entirety of the assemblies of my high school.

02:06:04.000 2000 kids.

02:06:06.000 Name's Gavin.

02:06:06.000 I work in SMT in Seattle.

02:06:08.000 Use this for cables.

02:06:10.000 We'll get it fixed.

02:06:11.000 It is what it is.

02:06:12.000 These things happen.

02:06:13.000 Thanks, Gavin.

02:06:14.000 How awesome was that?

02:06:15.000 It's a sad story, man.

02:06:15.000 I'd rather watch Troubleshoot. How awesome was that?

02:06:18.000 William Mazak says as much as the Trump supporter in Portland should have let everyone know how f

02:06:24.000 Should have known how f this is Jake Gardner is my last stand never forget Jake Gardner. It's a sad story, man

02:06:31.000 It's terrible. Keckman says here's some money. So your business succeeds if you can

02:06:37.000 In any way possible, tell Joe to have Trump.

02:06:40.000 No matter if Joe buy, then doesn't show up.

02:06:43.000 Trump must show.

02:06:44.000 Also, I used to be a teacher and not all are leftists, radicals.

02:06:48.000 Some want to teach the right way, but they are trying to stop us.

02:06:52.000 Yeah, I think that's probably true.

02:06:54.000 You guys think Rogan will have Trump on?

02:06:56.000 Have you talked to him about it at all?

02:06:58.000 I don't know.

02:06:58.000 You should definitely push that.

02:07:00.000 I'm not.

02:07:01.000 I'm never.

02:07:01.000 I'm not gonna.

02:07:02.000 Don't do that for real.

02:07:03.000 But Joe, have him on, man.

02:07:05.000 That's going to be the bombest.

02:07:06.000 Absolutely.

02:07:08.000 They mentioned teachers.

02:07:09.000 Did you hear about the school teacher who got suspended?

02:07:13.000 I believe he got suspended or fired.

02:07:15.000 for assigning a homework paper where they had to pick a hero,

02:07:19.000 and one of the options was Kyle Rittenhouse. The others were like George Floyd, his-

02:07:24.000 Right, exactly.

02:07:24.000 Yeah, it was both, it was like, it was, you know, there was a political divide here.

02:07:28.000 Yeah, you can't even have a debate in your classroom anymore.

02:07:31.000 Nope.

02:07:31.000 It's one side, and that's it.

02:07:34.000 And then there wasn't, wasn't, didn't a teacher say she wished Trump supporters would all die of COVID or something and they got suspended?

02:07:38.000 Yeah.

02:07:38.000 It happens sometimes to these leftists, but the, the problem, as I mentioned with like the valve that it only ratchets towards the left is that they have to make a big leap before it shocks the system.

02:07:50.000 And so long as they keep clicking one at a time, it just keeps getting worse and they get away with it.

02:07:53.000 To the point where like Antifa can go around and the media won't talk about it.

02:07:58.000 Like they go around beating people and starting fires and they're the good guys.

02:08:00.000 And the news cycle moves so fast.

02:08:02.000 I mean, Jessica Whitaker was murdered for saying, All Lives Matter, and we only talked about her for two weeks.

02:08:07.000 Oh, that's right.

02:08:08.000 And everybody moved on, because the news cycle just, you can't keep up.

02:08:11.000 It's not even that.

02:08:12.000 The mainstream media didn't care about her.

02:08:14.000 That's true.

02:08:15.000 So, for those that aren't familiar, she said, All Lives Matter.

02:08:17.000 Someone said, Black Lives Matter.

02:08:18.000 They shot and killed her. 0.92

02:08:19.000 And they were walking away.

02:08:20.000 Yeah.

02:08:21.000 Where was that?

02:08:22.000 She was a young mom.

02:08:23.000 New York Times will talk about it.

02:08:24.000 Yeah.

02:08:25.000 Fox News barely even mentioned it.

02:08:27.000 When was that and where was that?

02:08:29.000 It was in India, Indianapolis.

02:08:33.000 A month ago?

02:08:33.000 No, Indianapolis.

02:08:35.000 I have aligners in and it's really hard to talk.

02:08:38.000 You just got your wisdom teeth out?

02:08:40.000 Well, I got them out a while ago, but it made my teeth shift.

02:08:43.000 So I finally caved and got like the clear braces and I can't speak properly.

02:08:48.000 How long will you wear them?

02:08:50.000 12 weeks and tomorrow will be five weeks.

02:08:53.000 Has it altered your diet at all?

02:08:54.000 Yeah, because it's pain to take them out and put them back in and brush your teeth and do the whole thing, so.

02:08:59.000 Just eat less or something?

02:09:00.000 Yeah.

02:09:01.000 Gonna lose some weight, hopefully.

02:09:03.000 It's like it's twofer.

02:09:05.000 So we have a self-defense post here.

02:09:08.000 Bear Post says, please give half to charity.

02:09:10.000 Legally, you have to save your own life and retreat.

02:09:12.000 The bedroom door locked is fine.

02:09:14.000 They break in, you shoot.

02:09:17.000 I'm sure there might be different things for different states.

02:09:19.000 And also, if you haven't already, smash the like button and subscribe.

02:09:23.000 And you want to mention your Twitter handle real quick?

02:09:25.000 It's Cassandra Rules, and I write for Gateway Pundit, and I have a website, District Herald, that I'm going to start using a little more frequently.

02:09:34.000 And we're gonna be hanging out a lot more because now we're far away, but closer than we were before.

02:09:40.000 And you know, I wish I could pan one of the cameras to show you like the ladder.

02:09:44.000 Go on Tim's Instagram because he has a shot of the, not of the chaos over there, but a nice, nice wide view of the- We're building it.

02:09:52.000 Tomorrow we'll get all the sound working properly.

02:09:55.000 I guess we're okay for now.

02:09:58.000 Hopefully, I mean I can't believe you guys got this done as quickly as you did I was over here, and it was just like a plain room.

02:10:04.000 It was an empty room Yeah, yeah, and like I'm so surprised the walls were just regular walls And that's really cool like wood or whatever and you can't see what's behind me, but it's really amazing stuff I'm so impressed.

02:10:14.000 It was it was it was Andy.

02:10:15.000 This is another guy who did all the work He's one guy did all this in a day.

02:10:18.000 It's like he's talking about skilled man, and he's a drummer Yeah, rock on DeWeed says, this year has definitely strengthened our 2A rights guaranteed.

02:10:28.000 I absolutely think that's the case.

02:10:30.000 100%. 1.00

02:10:32.000 Another other man says, I'm not going to foolishly believe they are stupid. 1.00

02:10:36.000 You know these people are in it to watch the world burn. 1.00

02:10:39.000 If Trump gets in, they have carte blanche permission to openly rebel considering how they started, how they, how they stacked the deck.

02:10:47.000 Yeah.

02:10:49.000 Somebody mentioned there's a 4,000 Hz hum in the background.

02:10:52.000 At 9.

02:10:52.000 So it's probably still there.

02:10:54.000 What can we do about it?

02:10:56.000 Oh.

02:10:57.000 You notice anything?

02:10:58.000 No.

02:10:59.000 Take three.

02:10:59.000 Tylenol says, fastest move.

02:11:01.000 I out-processed, deep-cleaned, and moved out of on-base housing over three days.

02:11:01.000 Ha.

02:11:07.000 Wow.

02:11:07.000 They declared a state of emergency preemptively because they have an announcement coming up in the Breonna Taylor case.

02:11:14.000 have been closed and the LMPD has canceled all days of and already blocking roads off.

02:11:19.000 They declared a state of emergency preemptively because they have an announcement coming up in

02:11:24.000 the Breonna Taylor case. I was tweeting about this right before I came over here.

02:11:27.000 What's the break? What's the, you know, that's gonna be?

02:11:30.000 But if they're doing this, yeah.

02:11:33.000 Information came out that apparently Brianna was connected to the drug dealer.

02:11:36.000 Is that, did you see that?

02:11:38.000 I saw bits of it, but I've been, I'm all over the place lately.

02:11:44.000 Rubitano says, I don't know about there, but here in Minnesota, duty to retreat dictates you must retreat if safe to do so.

02:11:52.000 If you are at a door with family or friends inside, you do not have to retreat from that position because it could put them in danger.

02:11:58.000 Interesting.

02:12:01.000 JMAC says it's not Trump's America.

02:12:03.000 It's America's America.

02:12:05.000 We live in a republic and the citizens of these states need to make a change.

02:12:09.000 Either vote out these toxic politicians or make enough noise so they are forced to listen.

02:12:15.000 Keep the Fed in check.

02:12:17.000 Well, the left, I think, wants to totally federalize.

02:12:20.000 They want to just erode the concept of the state.

02:12:21.000 They want national popular vote voting, which then means this massive country of 50 different states will be beholden to Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York.

02:12:30.000 Yeah.

02:12:31.000 That's not going to be fun.

02:12:32.000 No, that'd be mob rule because you can make an internet video that goes viral and then everyone would vote for it the next day.

02:12:37.000 It'd be crazy.

02:12:38.000 That's why people, they don't realize the states vote for the president.

02:12:42.000 Yeah.

02:12:43.000 They don't like it. 0.98

02:12:44.000 They don't understand how it works, and I think a lot of them are just dumb and just do whatever they're told, basically. 0.98

02:12:49.000 Yeah, I've had a lot of democracy versus republic debates in the past couple days. 0.97

02:12:54.000 I used to be a hardcore, like, true democracy, like, majority vote.

02:12:59.000 Yeah.

02:12:59.000 And then I realized how dangerous.

02:13:00.000 One person, one vote.

02:13:02.000 No, I'm not.

02:13:02.000 That was the motto.

02:13:04.000 No, I am not either.

02:13:05.000 Trust me. 1.00

02:13:06.000 But the representatives sometimes can be such morons. 1.00

02:13:08.000 So it's like how that's like they're in there for years. 1.00

02:13:12.000 If you make the wrong move, they're in there for two years.

02:13:14.000 I mean, you can get them out, I guess, with a referendum, right?

02:13:16.000 I don't think that people, I don't think voters take voting seriously enough.

02:13:20.000 I think it was Socrates who said that voting was a skill and it had to be learned and you had to study and really understand your civic duty and your options.

02:13:31.000 And I don't think people do that anymore.

02:13:32.000 They just like see a meme and they're like, Oh, orange man bad.

02:13:35.000 Or, Oh, Biden is actually the real KKK or whatever.

02:13:39.000 You know, it's, it's, people have very like, petulant political views now.

02:13:45.000 I bet.

02:13:45.000 And it's dangerous.

02:13:46.000 It would be very cool to have in schools, like in first, second, third grade, little

02:13:50.000 vote where they vote for a representative of their family.

02:13:51.000 We did that.

02:13:52.000 I did that in second grade.

02:13:53.000 Oh yeah.

02:13:54.000 It was great.

02:13:55.000 And there's model UN and there's class president.

02:13:56.000 And they, you know, I was talking to a family member once.

02:13:59.000 I don't think they do that anymore, by the way.

02:14:01.000 Probably not.

02:14:02.000 They didn't do it for my daughter.

02:14:03.000 So I was talking to, I was out to eat with some extended family.

02:14:06.000 It was a cousin of mine and her entire family.

02:14:09.000 And they were like, you're doing news.

02:14:11.000 It's really awesome.

02:14:12.000 Congratulations.

02:14:13.000 It was years ago.

02:14:13.000 And their daughter who was like, you know, 13 or 14 was just like not paying attention.

02:14:18.000 And they made a joke about how she didn't care about news.

02:14:21.000 And I was like, I can make her understand and care about news.

02:14:24.000 And they laughed, and she was like, no, you can't.

02:14:27.000 And I was like, I'll put it this way.

02:14:28.000 I was like, think of, like, you're in high school now, yeah?

02:14:31.000 And she's like, yeah.

02:14:32.000 And I'm like, who's, like, the worst person you know in school?

02:14:36.000 And she was like, uh, and then she, like, said a name.

02:14:38.000 And I was like, okay, now imagine the school came and told them they get to make the rules for you.

02:14:42.000 And she went, And I was like, that's politics.

02:14:45.000 So we're all adults and there's these really awful people we know and they're making the rules for us.

02:14:49.000 And we're like, oh, just like you just did.

02:14:51.000 And she was like, oh, and I'm like, so that same way you care about like the people in your class

02:14:56.000 and how they mess with you and like lie about you.

02:14:59.000 Imagine like we feel the same way about the people in our class, but our class is like our jobs

02:15:04.000 and our, and our, and our local council meetings and stuff like that.

02:15:07.000 You'd be a good dad.

02:15:07.000 And...

02:15:09.000 Like it was a good, she got it.

02:15:11.000 And I'm like, you're not going to care that I'm talking about war, but you

02:15:14.000 understand the concept of someone being given power at your school.

02:15:17.000 It was like a really bad person.

02:15:18.000 And there you go.

02:15:19.000 Welcome to politics.

02:15:20.000 When you're older, you'll be looking at it the exact same way, but it'll

02:15:23.000 be different subject matter.

02:15:24.000 We've got a question for Cassandra.

02:15:25.000 Crescent says, question Cassandra Fairbanks. 0.89

02:15:28.000 If Tulsi Gabbard is anti-war, why does she endorse Joe Biden?

02:15:32.000 Conversely, why hasn't she praised president Trump for peace deals, not

02:15:36.000 starting any new wars and withdrawing troops?

02:15:38.000 I think she has, hasn't she?

02:15:40.000 Bye!

02:15:42.000 Uh, I, she may have, I'm not entirely sure.

02:15:44.000 Yeah.

02:15:46.000 I, I want to say that she has praised Trump when he's been, when he's done things.

02:15:50.000 Oh yeah.

02:15:50.000 She, she voted in favor of his move.

02:15:53.000 Yeah.

02:15:53.000 And everybody was losing their minds because she sided with Trump.

02:15:58.000 She also went on TV, I think it was MSNBC, too, the day that Julian Assange was arrested and lobbied for him to be immediately released.

02:16:06.000 She really goes against the grain. 1.00

02:16:08.000 They lost out.

02:16:08.000 She's awesome.

02:16:09.000 Because I think she understands what regular, if they listened to her, she, I think in a lot of ways, she's, she's

02:16:18.000 not exactly what I've envisioned for the perfect candidate.

02:16:21.000 Right.

02:16:22.000 I think if you took Donald Trump and you toned it down, cleaned it up, then you would have a landslide no matter what.

02:16:28.000 No one could stop him.

02:16:30.000 And I think Trump supporters need to heed this warning because Trump really does put his foot in his mouth a lot.

02:16:35.000 And regular people, as much as they like what he does, do complain about his constant behavior and his insults and the attacks and the mudslinging. 0.99

02:16:42.000 Those are my favorite parts.

02:16:45.000 That's why Trump has the really hardcore vocal bass, where they love that he goes after and he's basically fighting for you.

02:16:50.000 But there are a lot of people, probably the silent majority, who won't speak up and defend him because deep down they're like, ugh, I can't believe he's doing it again, but I'll take it!

02:16:59.000 I'll take what I can get, you know?

02:17:00.000 That's exactly in my boat, yeah.

02:17:01.000 Because when he says stuff like, if you burn the flag, you should get a year in prison, that stuff makes me not want to vote for him. 0.99

02:17:07.000 Makes me dislike him and think he's, like, ignorant. 0.97

02:17:10.000 But I still can't vote for Biden. 0.99

02:17:12.000 I can't imagine a world with that guy.

02:17:15.000 My favorite analogy was a Bridget Phetasy's article where someone sent her an email saying, I feel like I'm drowning.

02:17:21.000 And in order to stay afloat, I have to grab onto this giant floating turd.

02:17:25.000 And I know Trump supporters don't feel that way because Trump, like to his base, he really is like the perfect candidate in a lot of ways.

02:17:31.000 I don't necessarily agree, because I think the Middle Eastern peace deals and withdrawing troops is not a floating turret, it's like a floating cupcake.

02:17:37.000 It's like drowning and seeing a lifeboat, and I'm going, yes!

02:17:41.000 And the lifeboat has weird, crazy, like 80s style tiger print, and it's weird looking, and I'm like, I don't care!

02:17:50.000 I don't care!

02:17:50.000 It's a life raft!

02:17:51.000 If it ends the wars, if it gets our troops back, count me in. 0.99

02:17:54.000 Yeah, I mean, like I've said, I'm really unhappy with what he's doing with Julian,

02:17:59.000 but at the same time, I don't have that many complaints about him either.

02:18:03.000 And you gotta think about America first.

02:18:06.000 So yeah, I...

02:18:09.000 Yup.

02:18:11.000 I don't hate him.

02:18:12.000 I want to be madder than I am about a lot of things, and it's just like, man, he's bringing troops home.

02:18:18.000 I don't understand how there is a counter to the idea of America first, like it's a bad thing.

02:18:23.000 Yeah.

02:18:24.000 I'm not a staunch nationalist.

02:18:25.000 Have you guys taken the eight values test?

02:18:28.000 No.

02:18:29.000 You have?

02:18:29.000 Yeah.

02:18:32.000 I'm in the middle.

02:18:33.000 I'm very in the middle between international and national because I believe in international cooperation, working with our allies. 0.77

02:18:38.000 But the idea that we as taxpaying citizens would be beholden to other people before ourselves is ridiculous.

02:18:47.000 We've never fixed the pipes in Flint.

02:18:49.000 Certainly we as a wealthy nation could figure out how to spend a tiny amount of money relative to our GDP to fix those pipes.

02:18:56.000 There are rich people who are fighting and paying to get it all taken care of, but we've successfully been in war for two decades.

02:19:04.000 We can't fix our own roads and bridges? That's how Trump won me over. I remember the exact moment

02:19:09.000 and I'd hung out with Noam Chomsky that day in Boston, which is ironic as heck, but I read a

02:19:13.000 quote from him and he said, we're building schools in Iraq and it gets blown up and we build another

02:19:20.000 one and it gets blown up and we can't build a school in Brooklyn.

02:19:23.000 At what point do we say we need to focus on America first?

02:19:28.000 And I was like, that.

02:19:29.000 You nailed it.

02:19:30.000 I'm voting for you.

02:19:31.000 I bought a Trump hat, and I was like, we're done here.

02:19:34.000 You're my candidate.

02:19:35.000 You know what it was for me?

02:19:35.000 I was just like, I'm not getting fooled again.

02:19:38.000 In 2016, I'm like, you can say what you want, I don't care.

02:19:40.000 Obama owes all the hope and change now.

02:19:43.000 But then, even though I said I didn't want to vote for Trump, he started doing things that made me want to vote for him.

02:19:47.000 Like, Middle Eastern peace deals.

02:19:52.000 He could go on Fifth Avenue and start saying every possible insult to every person walking by him. 1.00

02:19:57.000 He can call them all fat pigs. 1.00

02:19:59.000 He can spin on the ground and stomp around and scream. 0.99

02:20:01.000 And if he gets Middle Eastern peace, I'm going to be like, that's my president.

02:20:04.000 Mm-hmm.

02:20:05.000 Yep.

02:20:06.000 I mean, North Korea wasn't anything to sneeze at either.

02:20:09.000 Like, he's done some good work.

02:20:10.000 That was amazing.

02:20:11.000 He was so nice to him.

02:20:12.000 That reminds me of... I made a post today.

02:20:14.000 It's really sad.

02:20:15.000 Someone tagged me on Facebook.

02:20:16.000 They said, remember what Vice used to be?

02:20:18.000 Vice Media?

02:20:19.000 Because now it's all just, you know, hardcore.

02:20:21.000 And someone tagged me in it, and the comment was from someone saying their North Korea coverage was incredible.

02:20:26.000 And I actually field-produced the North Korean Motorcycle Diaries.

02:20:32.000 I didn't go to North Korea.

02:20:33.000 I went to New Zealand and interviewed these people who had driven their motorcycles from North through South Korea.

02:20:40.000 Those were the days.

02:20:41.000 Those were the days when you could talk about this effort to go, like what they did, I think was a really great thing.

02:20:49.000 But people were critical, to an extent, because they were like, it's propaganda for the North.

02:20:53.000 But for the most part, we could have that conversation.

02:20:56.000 Under Donald Trump, he walked into North Korea with no security in a dramatic and incredible symbol of trust with the North Koreans.

02:21:06.000 They could have snatched him up and ran away with him.

02:21:08.000 But Trump walked in with no security and they walked back.

02:21:12.000 And that is the first thing we need.

02:21:13.000 We need a chance.

02:21:15.000 We need trust.

02:21:16.000 And they attacked him for it.

02:21:17.000 And they still do. 1.00

02:21:18.000 And I'm just like, you people are insane. 0.96

02:21:20.000 It's another effort to show we can trust each other. 0.98

02:21:24.000 Because right now, they're pointing guns at each other.

02:21:26.000 Trump walking over there, unarmed, no security.

02:21:29.000 He's saying, we're not fighting.

02:21:30.000 I trust you.

02:21:31.000 And they smiled and they walked him back.

02:21:32.000 What does the media do?

02:21:33.000 Insult him all day and night.

02:21:35.000 There won't be peace if the media keeps doing this.

02:21:38.000 That's how they make money though.

02:21:39.000 I know.

02:21:40.000 They're getting crazy traffic right now.

02:21:45.000 Yep.

02:21:46.000 We'll do a couple more Super Chats, but make sure you follow me on Twitter and Instagram and Parler at TimCast.

02:21:52.000 Check out my other YouTube channels.

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02:21:57.000 This channel is IRL, and we have the podcast up on all podcast platforms.

02:22:00.000 You can follow Ian.

02:22:01.000 Yeah, follow me on Instagram, on Twitter, and on Mines, and Twitch.tv slash Ian Crossland.

02:22:08.000 So, at Ian Crossland.

02:22:09.000 Yeah, just at Ian Crossland everywhere.

02:22:11.000 At Cassandra Rules, and that's C-A-S-S-A-N-D-R-A, right? 1.00

02:22:15.000 Yep.

02:22:15.000 I sometimes put an O in there and I'm like, do I know how you spell Cassandra's name?

02:22:18.000 And that's like a double entendre.

02:22:19.000 Well, it's because you pronounce it right at least.

02:22:20.000 Most people don't pronounce it right.

02:22:22.000 It's Cassandra, your rules, and you rule. 1.00

02:22:25.000 Oh, yeah.

02:22:27.000 There was some inside joke when I made it, but it was eight years ago or something, and it's not relevant to today.

02:22:34.000 Well, I have to say, I have to interject, we do have a camera for Lydia, but her microphone didn't work, so you can follow at Sour Patch Lids as well, Sour Patch L-Y-D-S, because she's here still producing, but the mics and the cameras, you know, whatever.

02:22:48.000 So we'll get it all fixed by next time.

02:22:50.000 We're gonna be back at the original studio again tomorrow.

02:22:52.000 And I don't think I'm going to announce who's coming on anymore because we've had two cancellations and I just feel bad for letting people down.

02:22:58.000 So we'll just have magical people show up and we'll hang out.

02:23:00.000 You can just call me whenever and I'll swing by with some pizza.

02:23:02.000 Yeah, you should definitely come down.

02:23:05.000 I mean, you write tons of stories, you know so much about what's going on.

02:23:08.000 Just come on by and we'll have you here all the time.

02:23:12.000 So let's just take a couple more Super Chats then.

02:23:14.000 And also make sure to subscribe, smash the like button.

02:23:17.000 Nick Lintz says, how many times do we need to see swamp creatures telling lies today that contradict their past lies?

02:23:23.000 Term limits! 1.00

02:23:24.000 Why doesn't Trump make this an issue?

02:23:26.000 Majority of both parties support.

02:23:27.000 Doesn't he?

02:23:28.000 Didn't Trump say term limits?

02:23:29.000 I think he did.

02:23:30.000 It's been off.

02:23:33.000 Like, I haven't heard any talk about it.

02:23:34.000 That was part of his big announcement of like 20 points or something.

02:23:40.000 Elias the Aquanaut says, Tim, please tell my friend Casey why you were voting Trump as true liberal this year.

02:23:46.000 Love you, man.

02:23:47.000 Three historic peace agreements.

02:23:50.000 Kosovo, Serbia, Bahrain, Israel, UAE, Israel.

02:23:54.000 I gotta say, man, the idea that these Arabic nations would recognize the existence of Israel is profound. 0.82

02:24:00.000 It's incredible.

02:24:01.000 Normalized relations, trade, this is how you begin the process of peace and stabilization in the Middle East.

02:24:07.000 Will it hold forever?

02:24:08.000 I don't know.

02:24:08.000 I hope so.

02:24:10.000 Man, he gets all of my, you know, like buttons and all that for all that stuff, calling out the riots, trying to stop the riots.

02:24:17.000 That's big.

02:24:18.000 Whether or not he's been successful, he's the only one standing up against them, while the Democrats, while Joe Biden's staff literally bailed these people out, while Kamala Harris solicited donations for these people.

02:24:27.000 And I think, look, There is an element of Joe Biden is really, really dangerous.

02:24:33.000 He reads a teleprompter.

02:24:35.000 He doesn't speak for himself.

02:24:36.000 I have no idea what he's all about or what he wants. 0.97

02:24:38.000 Kamala Harris is insane. 0.54

02:24:39.000 Kept people in prison beyond their terms for cheap labor because they didn't want to let him out because they needed someone to fight wildfires.

02:24:47.000 I think that's what it was, right?

02:24:49.000 That's like, that's slavery.

02:24:51.000 That's like, we could, I think they were eligible for parole and they're like, but wait, don't let him out because then who will fight the fires for a dollar an hour?

02:24:59.000 Yeah, and she's running for office right now, so no. 0.99

02:25:01.000 Dude, when she was up against Biden, it was like, it was a debate!

02:25:05.000 She just trashed him in the Democratic primaries, and now she's just smiling and acting like his friend. 0.79

02:25:12.000 They're just all so awful. 0.97

02:25:13.000 Look, Trump is no saint. 0.99

02:25:17.000 But I think I can put it this way.

02:25:19.000 On paper, we had a great economy.

02:25:21.000 I don't trust Joe Biden to fix the economy.

02:25:23.000 I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils.

02:25:24.000 Trump is best equipped to fix the economy and he's ending all these wars,

02:25:28.000 like, or he's ending the wars in the Middle East, bringing our troops back and they're resisting him.

02:25:31.000 You know what, man, I'll take what I can get.

02:25:33.000 I think what Trump is doing in these capacities are good things.

02:25:36.000 I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils.

02:25:38.000 Part of me is voting against Biden, identitarianism, and this establishment.

02:25:43.000 Like Joe Biden represents the establishment of 47 years that created the systemic race 0.84

02:25:48.000 and these people are complaining about.

02:25:49.000 Trump's been in office for 3.7 years or not.

02:25:51.000 I mean, you know, something like that, like not even four years.

02:25:54.000 And they're blaming him for all this stuff.

02:25:56.000 No, look, I'll tell you what, man.

02:25:59.000 At the very least, there's one simple thing.

02:26:01.000 Trump is not the establishment.

02:26:02.000 If he wins again, it will crush and end the establishment.

02:26:05.000 And then After that, there will be, hopefully, real populist candidates, a new system where people actually are paying attention, and the old guard will finally be gone.

02:26:16.000 This is their last-ditch effort, Joe Biden.

02:26:17.000 It's the best they could muster.

02:26:19.000 Let him lose.

02:26:20.000 Let them walk off into the sunset and walk slowly and blissfully into the ocean and just walk deeper and deeper and then be gone from the rest of us.

02:26:28.000 And then we'll find out ways to move past Trump.

02:26:32.000 But I can't believe people predicate their entire identities on Trump as if We need better technology.

02:26:41.000 I mean, candidates aside, we need like a technological revolution.

02:26:44.000 Because riding on oil and wiring is not sustainable for much longer.

02:26:51.000 Yeah, of course.

02:26:52.000 Geothermal.

02:26:53.000 We got vision, fusion, graphing.

02:26:56.000 We'll take one more.

02:26:57.000 It's for you, Cassandra.

02:26:59.000 Question for Cassandra.

02:27:00.000 From my understanding, you know Michelle Malkin.

02:27:03.000 Do you think it was wrong for her to be fired by YAF, exiled politically, for refusing condemning Nick Fuentes?

02:27:11.000 Absolutely.

02:27:12.000 What happened with that?

02:27:14.000 100%.

02:27:14.000 I don't know the whole story.

02:27:15.000 Oh boy.

02:27:16.000 Well, we don't have too much time, so.

02:27:18.000 Well, basically, Nick Fuentes, controversial right-wing podcaster, I guess he's on DLive now, not YouTube, but he's very populist, nationalist, America first, but he's controversial.

02:27:32.000 He's made some controversial statements.

02:27:34.000 Michelle refused to disavow him, said that she didn't want to disavow anybody.

02:27:38.000 She didn't want to disavow anybody who puts America first or aligns with her on her core

02:27:42.000 issues which are immigration and America first nationalist populist ideology.

02:27:50.000 And so the young, what are they called, YAF and all these people, they ditched her as

02:27:56.000 a speaker.

02:27:57.000 She'd been speaking there for years.

02:28:00.000 And they were basically like, you're not disavowing this person.

02:28:04.000 So you're bad.

02:28:06.000 You're canceled by, and then they hold like cancel con and all these festivals, like pretending that they're against cancel culture, but they don't put their money where their mouth is.

02:28:15.000 And I adore Michelle Malkin and I will stand with her every day.

02:28:20.000 Is there really a thing called cancel con?

02:28:22.000 Yeah, it was really bad.

02:28:23.000 It was like a live stream thing.

02:28:25.000 You didn't miss anything.

02:28:27.000 Um, Well, oh, there you go, I guess.

02:28:29.000 That was the last question we'll take, I guess, because we have to now drive for several hours back to Philadelphia.

02:28:36.000 Oh, yeah.

02:28:37.000 Yeah, yep.

02:28:38.000 But then we're gonna come back, and the next time, we're like 90... I would say, based on where we're at so far, it sounds like we're really close to getting everything done.

02:28:46.000 We just need someone to spend a day now troubleshooting, and I thought we were good, but it was yikes up until the last minute.

02:28:53.000 Once again, make sure you subscribe, hit the like button, hit the notification bell.

02:28:56.000 The show is live Monday through Friday at 8pm.

02:28:58.000 Tomorrow we'll be live.

02:28:59.000 This time with no problems because we'll be in the original studio.

02:29:01.000 Unless some weird thing happens and all of a sudden that studio breaks.

02:29:04.000 I have no idea.

02:29:05.000 And there will be kitties.

02:29:07.000 The cats.

02:29:07.000 But then the cats are coming here.

02:29:10.000 And I don't think we're gonna allow the cats into the studio though.

02:29:13.000 It's really funny when the cats jump up on the tables.

02:29:15.000 Do you think we should keep the cats?

02:29:18.000 I'm pretty down with her cats.

02:29:21.000 It's usually Bucko, he just jumps up on the table and tries to steal people's water.

02:29:25.000 And then you're like fighting with a jar while you're trying to talk.

02:29:27.000 Well, you gotta bring out the cats when you have a really important thing that you want people to hear.

02:29:31.000 It's like Banksy said.

02:29:33.000 Banksy painted a cat on a wall in the middle of all this devastation and destruction and everybody's like, why did you paint that cat?

02:29:40.000 I have it tattooed on me.

02:29:43.000 He was like, because people on the internet only look at cats and porn or something like that.

02:29:48.000 And so he painted a cat so people would listen.

02:29:50.000 And I think it's a good strategy to have some cats roaming around.

02:29:54.000 Sounds good.

02:29:55.000 All right.

02:29:55.000 We'll let them do their thing.

02:29:57.000 All right then.

02:29:59.000 Well, Cassandra, thanks for hanging out.

02:30:00.000 Thanks for having me.

02:30:01.000 Sorry for rambling.

02:30:02.000 No way, man.

02:30:03.000 That was awesome.

02:30:04.000 So, the next time, you know, you come over.

02:30:06.000 Like, usually what I try to do is have, like, a bunch of stories from the day that we, like, go through.

02:30:11.000 But we were so just, like, everything was broken.

02:30:14.000 I was like, just press record.

02:30:15.000 I don't know.

02:30:15.000 Just go live.

02:30:16.000 We'll just talk.

02:30:16.000 I don't know.

02:30:17.000 Whatever.

02:30:17.000 So, but the next time we'll just, like, we'll talk about your stories more, and we'll, like, go through segments and stuff, and, uh, and then by then Lydia will have a working mic and camera, uh, working, you know, so you'll be able to hear her again, and we'll get through all the issues, but, uh, thanks for hanging out, everybody.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 21, 2020

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