Cassandra Fairbanks joins us in the middle of nowhere to talk about the culture war, the Proud Boys, and a whole bunch of other stuff. She's a writer, podcaster, and podcaster from the Gateway Pundit.
00:01:14.000And this whole room was built in literally 24 hours.
00:01:17.000Like, I can't believe we even have a desk.
00:01:20.000And we went nuts trying to get everything set up, and it didn't work.
00:01:24.000So Lydia has no microphone, but she does have a camera.
00:01:29.000And we're going to hopefully get everything done in the next couple of days.
00:01:34.000But we're going to be heading back to the original studio because we're in the process of moving back and forth, but we're going to talk about a bunch of stories today.
00:01:40.000With Cassandra here, we have a bunch of stuff, because Cassandra basically knows everything about the culture war, conflict with the Proud Boys, Trump supporters and stuff, and we've got a whole bunch of your stories from Gateway Pundit.
00:17:02.000This is why we're in the middle of nowhere, and why we actually struggled to get the stream going today, and why Ian can't talk, and why Lydia can't talk either, because the mics aren't working.
00:17:31.000We're in the middle of nowhere because this is not the first time we saw a story of someone being attacked by the mob And this is the craziest thing.
00:17:40.000This dude was retreating, backing away, don't do it, and then he fired warning shots.
00:17:44.000He clearly did not want to hurt anybody.
00:17:47.000The craziest thing about the indictment of this guy is that they claimed that it was the use of a firearm while committing a felony, and the felony was terroristic threats.
00:17:55.000And the terroristic threats were him saying, don't do it, back away.
00:18:00.000And that he was on fire patrol, like making sure that his building didn't burn down.
00:18:33.000But, I mean, they claimed to have talked to my neighbors, said that it didn't happen, when in reality, like, Alan Bakari from Breitbart and my boyfriend went and talked to my neighbors, and they were like, no, we didn't talk to any right wing watch.
00:19:16.000And the night that they burnt down the church in DC, People had posted my address and my phone number, and they were threatening to come to my house.
00:19:39.000Hits the writers pretty much dispersed and then all of a sudden my whole house just like lights up from all sides and They they were shooting commercial-grade fireworks in my house I mean, I thought it was gunshots, but they said later that you know, they it was probably just the really large fireworks but then they started banging on my windows and How did they find out where you lived?
00:20:02.000Uh, through subpoenas that get posted online from people trying to get my conversations with Julian Assange, actually.
00:20:39.000And I was talking to everybody and I was like, listen man, things are getting spicy.
00:20:43.000Okay, so you need to understand that the show that I do, the people that we have come through here and stuff, this is probably gonna be a target too.
00:20:58.000And so, I was just like, I don't think it matters.
00:21:00.000I think they'll come for you when they decide.
00:21:02.000Whether it's now because Cassandra's pushing back, or because I do a story they don't like.
00:21:06.000And general sentiment, I guess, from everybody was like, OK, you know, we'll see, whatever, sure.
00:21:13.000And then the next day, I took a bunch of my recurve bows and I, like, just propped them up, got them ready.
00:21:20.000And the general sentiment was, what's going on?
00:21:23.000And the general response was, they showed up to Cassandra Fairbanks's house.
00:21:27.000They were banging on windows, they were firing fireworks at it, and it's only a matter of time before they start targeting lesser, like, I don't want to say lesser known in regards to us because we're not like mainstream media or anything, but like Tucker Carlson's like the top tier biggest cable channel, period.
00:22:13.000But we're in the middle of nowhere, having trouble with setting up the studio simply because... I mean, I gotta be honest, it's a combination of I work too much.
00:22:21.000If I took one day off, we could have built the studio properly.
00:22:55.000I'm assuming it was some kind of, like, neighborhood dispute about the yard or whatever.
00:22:59.000She told a bunch of people on social media that he was racist, and there's this protest group in Milwaukee, and they're throwing, like, I think it's justice protest parties or something.
00:23:12.000And what it is is they're doxing people, posting their addresses in this group, and showing up on their front lawns to protest and terrify them and intimidate them and threaten them.
00:23:21.000I mean, they were outside his house for three hours screaming threats into a bullhorn.
00:24:03.000So there's so much here that is deeper than just this story.
00:24:08.000And first, I'll just say, my biggest criticism is how the media runs defense all the time, non-stop.
00:24:16.000So these mobs that have been showing up and doing this, they've gone to other houses where, in one instance, they almost burnt it to the ground.
00:24:25.000They set it on fire, and there was a mob outside.
00:24:29.000I shouldn't say people, two teenagers, 14-year-olds, got shot during this, like, They were looking for missing girls that weren't actually missing.
00:25:10.000And so, this is something that Lydia brought up, it's a really good point.
00:25:12.000Imagine you're chilling at home and you're drinking, and you're not wasted but you have a couple beers, and then a mob shows up and threatens your safety.
00:25:19.000I'm not saying that the rioters or the Black Lives Matter people are gonna break in or anything, I'm just saying.
00:25:24.000Let's imagine a scenario where you happen to have been drinking when someone's about to break into your house.
00:25:29.000If you defend your house then, are they gonna say, oh, you're drunk, sorry.
00:26:07.000They had a few points where I was like, how can I get, how can I understand what they want, like, positively?
00:26:13.000I don't trust anything these people have to say anymore.
00:26:15.000Not like I trust Republicans all that much, but when they repeatedly say that they're fighting for justice, but then literally attack, like they're not fighting against racism, they're attacking black and brown people.
00:26:26.000I have to wonder if the goal is to make more and more people just vote for Donald Trump.
00:26:49.000But I'm very upset with what he's doing to Julian Assange, and I would sit it out in protest if Democrats weren't running around being domestic terrorists.
00:27:04.000You were like a big Bernie, like you were out there with Black Lives Matter.
00:27:08.000Yeah, I mean, I was writing for a libertarian website that was pretty harsh on police and pretty anarchist-bent.
00:27:18.000And I went and covered Ferguson, and I was very upset about the Kelly Thomas case in Orange County, which was a man who actually was innocent and was beat to death by police in a very shocking video.
00:27:32.000So when they first came out, I was like, cool, people are going to talk about this.
00:27:35.000Maybe we can get justice for Kelly Thomas.
00:29:53.000I don't know if you guys have seen the John Cleese thing, where he's like, this is a simplified version.
00:29:58.000It's an old joke, and then it's been expanded upon, where he's like, if you want to be a right-wing fellow, here's a list of people you can hate.
00:30:04.000And then he goes through all the people, like, the right supposedly hates.
00:30:07.000And then he's like, now if you find yourself wanting to be a left-wing extremist, here's a list of people that you can choose to hate.
00:30:12.000And then he goes through a list of people.
00:30:13.000And the funny, the joke about it is that at the end, he says,
00:30:16.000he's like, when he's talking about, when he's talking about the right wing people, or I'm sorry, the people that right
00:30:20.000wing hates, he ends with and moderates.
00:30:22.000And then when he goes to the left wing people, he ends once again with moderates, like both sides hate them.
00:30:26.000But there's an, there's an expanded joke where it's like, if you want to be a
00:30:33.000traditional conspiracy theorist, all right, then you're angry at the Illuminati.
00:30:38.000They control the banks, they start all the wars, they're responsible for all the oppression.
00:30:43.000Now, if you're a neo-Nazi, well then you just replace Illuminati with the word Jew.
00:30:49.000If you're an Occupy Wall Street activist, you replace the word Jew with the 1%.
00:30:52.000If you're an intersectionalist, you replace the 1% with white people or whiteness.
00:30:57.000They always say basically the same things about all of the groups they believe are oppressing them and none of it is
00:31:45.000They showed up- Why were they protesting it?
00:31:47.000I don't remember, but it was like the most ridiculous thing and they were, I think they were claiming that like, yeah, yum yums, that's what it was.
00:32:21.000I was at a protest in, I think it was Seattle, at U-Dub, University of Seattle, Washington.
00:32:29.000And there was a guy who was, like, ranting about the goal of the Nazis was to merge with the Asian race to create the... And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, hold on!
00:33:19.000And I think it's, it's, I don't, I don't, I don't look at the numbers for all the other, you know, countries of origin, but I guess there's probably like, um, legal immigrants probably make more money.
00:33:31.000I don't think it's anything to do with, with, uh, here's, I think what it has to do with is that these people are in their country saying, I'm going to work hard to go somewhere to improve myself.
00:33:40.000That kind of perseverance and mentality.
00:33:43.000They then come here and they keep working.
00:33:45.000And they find that path to opportunity.
00:33:47.000But I found that really, really interesting because there's a lot of arguments when the left tries to talk about Asian people and say that they're not a marginalized group, that they're actually oppressors because they're so privileged.
00:34:02.000They're typically talking about Chinese immigrants and Indian immigrants, and they ignore all of the other less wealthy Asian nations.
00:34:11.000But even the immigrants from many of these countries do better than the average American.
00:34:14.000I think we, as Americans, have a culture problem where we don't teach our kids to work hard, thus we end up with a bunch of people marching around, smashing things, arguing that they're owed something, they deserve things, but they're not working towards it.
00:34:57.000Part of me, when these people yell, like, cops are bad or whatever, I immediately think, man, these cops who arrested small business owners, these cops who went to the McCloskey's house and took their guns, I mean, those cops for sure I think are bad.
00:35:50.000Just so everyone who's watching knows, I always tell people, swear, say whatever you want, but just realize YouTube might penalize your content.
00:36:01.000To clarify, there's no video of the guy pulling the shotgun, pointing or anything?
00:36:05.000Well, in the video, yeah, the protesters, or whatever you want to call them, the mob, they were live streaming it themselves onto this Facebook group, which is...
00:36:17.000just doxing people's addresses and things like that.
00:36:21.000And you could see him in the window holding the gun, but he never confronted them.
00:36:32.000They didn't, I mean, it was, it was like a scene from Beauty and the Beast when they're like Gastons riling up the crowd and they're Heading on horses up to the castle, except everybody was screaming and incoherently and listening to Cardi B. It was really bad.
00:37:30.000But when you don't know how many people are out there, you don't know if they're going to come into your house, you don't know if they're going to burn your house down.
00:37:36.000I mean, there was flames shooting at my house.
00:37:44.000I was like, the second I see one of them pop through the window, My life is over, but my daughter is going to be safe.
00:37:49.000It reminds me of like a zombie movie when they see the windows and there's a silhouettes banging on the window and then like the hands break through and you got to like take a bat and like bash the arms.
00:37:59.000A lot of times you hear the stories about stuff like that, but you always read it after the fact when they didn't take it to the next level.
00:38:05.000But when you're in the moment, you don't know if it's about to happen.
00:39:30.000And that was when I really like, that was the part that was the scariest.
00:39:33.000I felt like there was nobody that was going to come help me because everybody, you could hear sirens everywhere, but they were going to fires.
00:39:39.000They were going, you know, there was riot stuff happening everywhere.
00:39:43.000That happened in New York during the riots, where this guy called 911 because someone had broken into his building and they were fighting.
00:39:50.000And the response he got from 911 was, Sir, our city is under attack.
00:39:55.000Yeah, that's basically what they said to me.
00:39:57.000You know, it's really... I got really angry today.
00:39:59.000So my main segment was... I was talking about this on my main channel.
00:40:03.000Pro-life Democrats took out a full-page ad in the New York Times saying the Democrats have gone crazy on abortion and that if they don't moderate their position, they're gonna lose 30% of their voter base to Donald Trump.
00:40:15.000Because, like, I talked to Stephen Crowder about this on his show.
00:40:57.000I started to get more and more heated because So the other house is in Philly, where the studio is actually functioning, and we're trying to build this one out.
00:41:10.000I lived in New York, and I remember the protests were getting a little crazy, and I was like, this was years ago.
00:41:15.000So I'd see them periodically, and I'd be like, whatever, they're just marching around, it's no big deal, but if civil unrest gets bad, I don't want to be here.
00:41:29.000But I had moved from New York to Jersey partly because two cops got executed in front of my house.
00:41:36.000Uh, I look out my window, I look down the street, not this intersection right here, but the next one over, so it was literally just like one block over.
00:41:44.000Two cops, two cops are sitting in their car and a guy came up and said, he posted on Instagram, you take two of ours, you take two of yours, killed these two guys.
00:41:51.000And so I realized, like, there's some, there's some political problems coming.
00:42:03.000My thing is, I traveled all around the world covering all of this conflict and crisis, so I don't want it anywhere near where I live, because I see what that stuff is like.
00:42:12.000So when it started getting worse, I'm like, I'm leaving.
00:42:57.000I heard your story, where the 9-1-1's like, we can't do anything, you're on your own, you had a gun, and I'm like, man, I better do something about this.
00:43:03.000Then Joe Biden tweets out, we're gonna ban weapons of war, we're gonna come for assault weapons, and I'm like, oh, come on!
00:43:10.000You defund the police, you support these people, and then I say, okay, fine, I'll take care of myself, I'm gonna go buy weapons, I'm gonna keep my house safe, my friends safe, and then you tweet, you're gonna take my guns away now?
00:43:23.000They're arresting people defending themselves.
00:43:24.000The McCloskeys, the guy in Milwaukee, this poor man in Omaha, whose business was being attacked, and they decked his 70-year-old dad, and he warned them, back up, don't do it, and they attack him anyway, and they indict him!
00:43:38.000So now we're in the middle of nowhere.
00:45:25.000I mean, I propped myself behind a wall where I could see three of the... You know how my living room was set up.
00:45:32.000I propped myself behind that wall where the bathroom was, and I could see three of the windows, and it was the ones that they were hitting.
00:45:39.000It sounded like they were hitting it with sticks.
00:45:41.000And I was like, man, the second they come through, it's over.
00:45:44.000Is DC standing ground or castle doctrine?
00:47:02.000When you're surrounded and you are on a duty retreat, what's the legal implication there?
00:47:10.000If you, I mean, if you retreat into your bedroom and then they come into your house and you open fire, have you, have you legally retreated?
00:47:30.000And then you'll get, you'll get treated like the Omaha guy.
00:47:32.000I mean, it could have been one person for all, or well, it was, it probably, it was at least two people or three people, but I mean, it could have been one person.
00:49:19.000I bought guns because I have no faith in the system because I need to make sure I'm safe
00:49:23.000and you're safe and everyone here is safe.
00:49:26.000So now the added advantage of being in the middle of nowhere is one of the concerns I
00:49:30.000have watching that video from Milwaukee.
00:49:33.000They were standing in the street, and so they can argue, I'm not on your property, I'm on public property, while harassing you and maybe even throwing things at your house.
00:49:41.000Where I am now, you come anywhere near my house, you're on my property.
00:49:45.000You go in the woods, you're on my property.
00:49:47.000It's a big property in the middle of nowhere, cut the costs down, but the general idea is, I want to make sure that anybody who eventually finds their way here, somehow, I don't know, no matter what you do, you're on my property.
00:49:58.000I'll tell you what, we're going to have in-ground auto-defense turrets go, Yeah, we're talking about setting up testing turrets.
00:50:47.000She pointed at him and walked towards him.
00:50:50.000So the issue for me with all these stories is that I always tell people, They're always gonna find an excuse because everything moves in increments, right?
00:51:00.000We're not going to see, in my opinion, or we might.
00:51:03.000Like a bunch of Black Lives Matter people, right now, running up to a random elderly woman's home, beating the crap out of her on a livestream and burning her house down, that's really extreme, and everyone would turn on them.
00:51:16.000So first, they go to McCloskey's house.
00:51:18.000The McCloskeys are eating dinner, they see this mob come in, the gate gets broken somehow, and so they pull out their weapons and say, back off.
00:51:24.000Then the Black Lives Matter group says, we were peacefully protesting and they pulled
00:52:45.000I talked about this a long time ago, and I've been predicting they're going to start coming to people's homes.
00:52:50.000And then they started coming to people's homes.
00:52:52.000I predicted the morality police will arrest you when you defend your property several months ago.
00:52:57.000I was like, it's only a matter of time before they go to someone's house, some guys like staff my property, and the cops are like, it's easier to arrest the homeowner than it is to deal with the mob.
00:54:44.000As he's struggling to get up, he's, like, on the ground, and he's, like, staggered, this guy, James Scurlock, jumps on his back, puts him in a choke hold, and then he yells.
00:54:52.000It was, like, 18 seconds where he was choking him.
00:54:54.000He switches the gun to his left, puts it over his shoulder, and fires.
00:55:27.000And then finally the last thing he had, freedom.
00:55:31.000The Black Lives Matter groups went to the city, protested, rioted, you know, whatever.
00:55:35.000I shouldn't say rioted, because I don't know exactly what they did, but the community pressure resulted in the DA saying, okay, special prosecutor.
00:55:42.000And then the grand jury argued that because he warned them, he was threatening them, and because he was threatening them and had a gun, it was a felony.
00:56:30.000He volunteered with the Trump campaign, but he was libertarian-leaning.
00:56:34.000And he was, the video of him that's gone viral is him saying like, the women's marches, it's great that they're expressing themselves, their criticisms of Trump are warranted, that's how they feel, they have a right to express themselves, I'm happy, they're not violent.
00:58:16.000But I was just, you know, that's a common conspiracy theory that I could reference from the right.
00:58:21.000But yeah, they literally put this plus sign from inside the key handle, a tiny detail from this logo and they were like look at how it matches up next to a
00:58:32.000swastika. It didn't have any swastika shapes. It was literally a plus sign, a bold plus sign. I
00:58:39.000mean I yeah it there's that's how they were trying to destroy this man. It's it's it's it's the
00:58:55.000It's kind of like we have this weird system where there's politics flowing around, kind of, and it doesn't make sense, but here's the point I'm trying to make.
00:59:04.000When it comes to personal politics, it only flows in one direction, to the right.
00:59:07.000So, the left will kick you out, they'll ban you, they'll attack you, your opinions are wrong, and the right is just recruiting everybody.
00:59:13.000Come on over, we'll take everybody we can get and we're gonna win.
00:59:55.000What would happen if you came out right now and... No, I'm not even going to say it.
00:59:58.000There are several channels on YouTube that have been deleted outright, and some have been stripped from their monetization for saying things about coronavirus.
01:02:06.000And I know if I do anything, they're going to claim peaceful protesters, some other ridiculous nonsense.
01:02:10.000My 10-year-old daughter, she never went back into my house after that night.
01:02:16.000She went and stayed at her dad's house and then I had to send her up to visit my mom in another state because my daughter would not step foot in the house again.
01:02:23.000She was like, I don't know if they're coming back.
01:05:58.000I was talking to some other people who are, you know, some big personality friends of mine, and I was just like, bro, are we in a simulation?
01:06:05.000And these are like regular, normal, boring podcast people, and they're like, dude, we're in a simulation.
01:06:11.000I'm half kidding because I'm like, it's just everything that's happening is so weird.
01:06:16.000You know, I can't imagine a debate between, listen, when I watched these videos of Joe Biden, I don't just follow like, you know, right-wing pundits who are making fun of Joe Biden.
01:06:27.000And I push back when people try and say Joe Biden gaffed when he didn't.
01:06:30.000So there's that one thing where Joe Biden said, I'm going to beat Joe Biden.
01:07:59.000I honestly, if somebody told me that I would be saying this six months ago, I would have been like, you are out of your mind.
01:08:06.000But I think he should have used the Insurrection Act like three months ago.
01:08:12.000I thought that at first I was well I shouldn't say that I was I was thinking maybe but then I read a really good article that basically said what do you think would happen when the local police are instructed to resist when the local government resists and you all of a sudden have a federal occupying force in a city that's rejecting them yeah it's just a recipe for legit civil war But at the same time, these cities are rejecting U.S.
01:09:14.000But the problem is even that action, which I understand why they're doing it, they get this big outline of all of these cities, how they rejected federal assistance, how they won't enforce the law, how they're cutting criminals loose.
01:09:24.000And I'm like, almost anything Trump does will lead to potential civil war.
01:09:31.000Like the states rejecting federal authority, which they've been doing.
01:09:34.000Like when it came to Portland, Trump sent some police there to protect a federal building, and they resisted in every possible way.
01:09:44.000I will say, the one thing I've praised Trump on over and over again, probably for the 50 billionth time for those of you that are familiar with my content, is that the feds deputized the Oregon State Police.
01:09:53.000So any arrest they make now gets prosecuted by the feds instead, and that wrapped up a ton of these people.
01:10:36.000They realized if they go up against Trump, they get crushed.
01:10:40.000But so long as they attack the state level, then they're okay.
01:10:43.000See, one of the things that I'm having a huge problem like wrapping my head around, though, is that everybody's being like, this is what Biden's America.
01:11:28.000I do want to say, though, before people jump down my throat, I am voting for Trump, and I think that you'd be a fool not to vote for Trump.
01:12:30.000She's saying she's not going to vote to confirm or whatever until after the election.
01:12:36.000Does she think there is a large group of Trump's conservatives and Republicans who have decided, like every Republican is undecided?
01:12:45.000The point I'm trying to make is, if 30% of the country is Republican, 33% is Democrat, and 30% are independent, She realized, like, you realize you'll lose all of the Republicans if you do this.
01:12:56.000And so what, is she trying to get Democrats to vote for her?
01:13:30.000And by pandering to the left for a little while, she gets a whole bunch of head pats from CNN and she gets her five minutes of airtime where people are like, you did a great thing.
01:15:30.000It was he hired a lot of Bushies, you know, that's not the same Republican Party as the Trump people and those people certainly don't care about a free press.
01:15:41.000But yeah, he he ordered it and Jennifer Robinson recently testified to that.
01:15:50.000You know, there was a meeting, and they offered Julian Assange a pardon in exchange for giving up his source.
01:17:35.000Or maybe there's someone we don't know about, and if Assange gave them up, it would put this person's life in jeopardy, and Assange won't give up that information.
01:17:52.000You know, people want people are like, well, he needs to do this because our democracy is falling apart.
01:17:57.000And it's like he doesn't know you anything.
01:17:58.000He gave you the information to make an informed decision about your election.
01:18:03.000And then everybody forgot about him and left him in an embassy for two more years to rot while Trump was president and could have pardoned him.
01:18:26.000And you know, it really is a challenge because I feel that part of me where it's like, if we can get confirmation that it really wasn't Russia, that would destroy Maybe not completely, because the establishment lies all the time, and we know.
01:18:41.000Like, they were wrong completely about Russia, and we know that.
01:18:44.000But if we figure out who this person really was, assuming this person... Whatever we could learn about that person, that could change everything, and be a major powerful tool in stopping the psychopaths who are destroying our cities, who are rombing through our streets, who are infecting our cultural institutions.
01:19:01.000It feels like Assange might hold the key Yeah, but that's not his responsibility.
01:19:07.000what the left is doing and help restore America back to where it used to be if we could just get the truth about
01:19:13.000what Happened. Yeah, but that's not his responsibility. He's not
01:19:16.000even American. I know He doesn't owe anybody any favors.
01:19:36.000It would disprove a lot of this nonsense.
01:19:38.000Even though it's already been mostly proven to be bunk.
01:19:42.000We'll see what happens with the Durham report.
01:19:45.000I'm wondering if we're even gonna see any... I don't think anything's gonna happen with Durham.
01:19:50.000I gotta give context for the people who might not understand.
01:19:53.000So we have... John Durham is investigating the Obama administration and intelligence agency individuals for... I guess... How would you describe it?
01:20:03.000I guess the official way is understanding how Russiagate started.
01:20:08.000Although they've already issued one criminal indictment, I think, right?
01:20:10.000That lawyer who altered the email for like claiming that Carter Page wasn't actually a CIA source or something.
01:20:16.000So, and this story is so hard to talk about.
01:20:19.000You know what really scares me about all of this?
01:20:22.000To truly explain to someone the context around Julian Assange, what his information means, why he has to protect it, why Trump is going at it.
01:20:29.000There's like 50 billion stories beneath all of that.
01:22:13.000Donald Trump talked about pardoning Edward Snowden.
01:22:16.000So Snowden is the NSA leaker who gave all of these files to Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras, The Intercept, and Donald Trump entertained pardoning him.
01:22:28.000Don't you think there's a possibility?
01:22:29.000Or do you think there's a possibility he might, after he gets re-elected, finally be like, okay, you know what?
01:22:33.000Well, I mean, I guess I should explain what my testimony was about today.
01:23:54.000And at the time I was in a DM group with a whole bunch of conservative influencers and people in the Trump campaign and close to the administration.
01:24:43.000And we've always been friendly, so I'm like, what is going on?
01:24:46.000And he starts saying that a pardon is never going to happen, that they're going to go into the embassy to arrest Julian, that they're charging Julian based on the Manning release, not on DNC leaks or Vault 7.
01:25:01.000that he was a horrible person and I didn't know all the terrible things that happened because of him and he was saying that you know if if you really understood this you wouldn't be supporting him anymore and people understand that you've supported him up until now because you didn't know but now that you know if you continue reporting him like basically you can't be in our in the cool crowd you're not gonna be you know you're gonna be What were you supposed to know?
01:25:31.000He was just telling me that he was a bad person, that WikiLeaks got people killed, which is not true.
01:25:37.000I mean, the Pentagon testified that was not true during the Manning trial, and the prosecution said that's not true during this trial.
01:25:44.000Could it be the Pentagon was lying because they don't want to reveal that they were compromised?
01:25:48.000Possibly I couldn't really speculate on that But I argued with him that it was false and I was like they testified that that's not true In the US government said that's not true in the extradition case still but he was insistent that Julian had done all these bad things He had got people hurt that he was reckless.
01:26:06.000He was comparing him to a drunk driver saying they was selfish and had no regard for other people and And that it was basically like if you keep supporting this guy, you're not going to be in
01:26:24.000Like you're going to be, you're not going to get scoops. We're not going to share Gateway
01:26:29.000Pundit. We're not, you know, it was, it was an odd conversation. Huh? You say F you. Well,
01:26:37.000I kept baiting him because I wanted, I wanted more information. So I was like, tell me more,
01:26:43.000you know, tell me more, keep telling me more.
01:26:45.000At one point I did start to cry, though, because he was screaming at me that Julian was going to spend the rest of his life in prison and that it wasn't journalism.
01:26:56.000I was getting very frustrated and I was saying, if you go into an embassy and rip him out, he's a political refugee technically.
01:27:35.000And Arthur, when I got back, Arthur told me that there was a State Department investigation and that he couldn't tell me anything anymore because I had told Julian.
01:28:17.000And a few days after that, I think it was like April 15th, and he was arrested on the 11th.
01:28:23.000There was an article on ABC News and it said that, it was like buried way down in this article, said that Rick Grinnell is the one who had worked out the deal for Julian's arrest.
01:28:32.000And so suddenly I was like, oh, that's how Arthur knew all this stuff that he told me in October.
01:28:37.000And I hit him up and I was like, hey, is this how you knew that?
01:28:41.000And he was like, And then, you know, kept ranting about him being, you know, deserving the death penalty.
01:28:49.000And the article also said that Grinnell only got a verbal pledge that there would be no death penalty.
01:28:54.000So I pointed that out and he was like, well, he deserves, you know.
01:28:59.000What could he possibly get the death penalty for?
01:29:01.000if they try and claim that people did get hurt if they add new charges.
01:29:06.000Well, the UN has warned repeatedly that they believe there's a chance that the US could try and execute him because they could add terrorism charges, espionage charges, Patriot Act stuff.
01:29:16.000I mean, there's a slew of things that they could throw at him.
01:29:19.000I gotta say, I'm convinced, like, I understand, you know, Trump is going after him because I think Trump wants to win the fight.
01:29:25.000He wants evidence that Russia, the story was bunk, and he probably wants to help himself.
01:29:30.000But I can only imagine if Joe Biden gets in, they'll kill him.
01:30:01.000Because they think WikiLeaks was working for the Russians.
01:30:03.000That is an incredible, incredible flip.
01:30:06.000I remember back in the day, Julian Assange, hero of the left, anti-establishment, anti-war, exposing the war crimes, and then all it took was some intelligence asset individuals to go on MSNBC and say, oh, actually, that guy you like?
01:30:40.000I think Julian Assange, the story, is a modern-day assassination story.
01:30:46.000And what I mean by that is, we're not in the times where information was scarce.
01:30:53.000There's phones everywhere, there's somebody watching all the time.
01:30:56.000And if they went to get Julian in a major first-world city, then it would be a serious, high-profile circumstance where it would make a martyr.
01:31:46.000There was like, so I actually met with him several years ago, and there was a creepy black van chilling out in front, and I'm like, I'm pretty sure, like, as soon as I walked anywhere near that building, I'm pretty sure as soon as I got the message, the email, like, they immediately just ripped apart all of my, you know, personal emails, all my files, like, all the intelligence agencies from all these different companies, the Five Eyes Spy Club, Did you take your phone to the embassy?
01:33:03.000Someone said, why would Donald Trump want to pardon Edward Snowden?
01:33:06.000And his response was because Snowden, like, because Trump is mad about how the intelligence agencies and these individuals smeared him with Russia, so yeah, he kind of wants revenge.
01:33:16.000Isn't there a possibility, like, that Trump is just trying to get the information from Assange, but he wouldn't do what, say, like, a Biden administration would do?
01:33:46.000Why did American resources go into New Zealand and raid this guy's house?
01:33:50.000They did the same thing to Julian Assange.
01:33:51.000It's kind of scary when you realize the true power of the United States and their allies and what they'll do if you're not an American.
01:33:58.000Yeah, Juice Wrapped News has a great video about that, where they have representatives from each government and they're like, we're America's bitch.
01:34:12.000Now it's like, you know, I've talked to those guys before in the past, but now it's like, so for those unfamiliar, Juice Wrapped News, in like 2010, made some of the most amazing political commentary music videos.
01:37:05.000I think there are instances where war is unfortunate, but good.
01:37:10.000I think there are a lot of instances where the U.S.
01:37:12.000is engaging in extremely stupid and bad war that's just bad for us.
01:37:16.000But it's like, you get some zealot who wants to go and is mad about how someone tried to kill his dad, and we end up in 20 years of war in the Middle East, which, for what?
01:37:24.000Can we even talk about what we gain from this?
01:37:26.000And now all of a sudden, I'm sitting here like, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, eh, I'm not gonna vote for a Republican, I'm not Hillary Clinton, she wants war.
01:37:33.000And then Trump wins, and now he's the guy who hasn't started a war.
01:37:35.000He's the guy who's got historic peace agreements in the Middle East.
01:37:37.000He's the guy who's withdrawing our troops, and I'm like, I still think war is bad.
01:39:42.000That's bad, but we have to do it, right?
01:39:44.000If we get invaded, which we've never been invaded.
01:39:47.000Well, maybe like, if you go way back and talk about like the territories and stuff, you know, we've had conflict in our in our on our own ground.
01:39:54.000But in modern history, all of the conflicts we fought have been going other places.
01:39:59.000And it's usually been like we've had a lot of failures.
01:40:02.000The US has had a lot of stupid failures.
01:41:14.000See, for me, I wouldn't say I'm absolutely against intervention, but I'm, when it comes to intervention, leaning away from it, but will entertain it if there's an atrocity happening.
01:41:23.000Even when we've went into war with the best intentions, there's always unintended consequences.
01:41:30.000I mean, look at what happened with Libya.
01:41:32.000We went in there, we destabilized a whole bunch of things, and now they have open-air slave markets.
01:41:40.000Even if we're doing something and selling it to the public as As good.
01:41:46.000There's always going to be a drawback, and I firmly believe in only engaging in war if the U.S.
01:41:52.000is directly threatened, or if it's in our national interest in a way that, you know, there's no other option.
01:42:00.000Should we have intervened in World War II?
01:42:04.000And I don't think we should have entered World War I, and I think that World War II wouldn't have happened without World War I.
01:42:09.000That's an interesting point because I was talking to Michael Malice about this and I had a very generic
01:42:13.000Ignorant view of World War one and I need to do my homework on it, but he mentioned it was a war of alliances
01:42:19.000Yeah, World War two was clear-cut like this. What what the what Nazi Germany was doing was just like
01:42:25.000Evil. Well, oh, yeah, we didn't even enter World War two to stop the Holocaust it
01:42:33.000People didn't even know about the stuff that was happening.
01:42:36.000The debate here was about was America First people and like there was actually an America First committee back then.
01:42:44.000It disbanded right when Pearl Harbor was attacked.
01:42:47.000But the argument was about whether or not we should be engaging in European conflict.
01:42:53.000and whether or not we should be helping England.
01:42:56.000It had nothing to do with stopping atrocities because nobody knew and a lot of this didn't start until later.
01:43:03.000So, that's not why we entered World War II.
01:43:08.000We entered World War II to help England.
01:43:14.000Technically we entered because Pearl Harbor got attacked, but they had been pushing for it because... Well, I think it's fair to point out we got attacked by Japan and then sent soldiers to Europe.
01:43:23.000But I mean, hindsight being 20-20, and I think that's not necessarily the best point, I think it ended up being good.
01:43:31.000We ended what they were doing, but now we know what China is doing.
01:43:34.000So I'm not saying we should have an intervention into China or anything like that.
01:43:38.000I mean, I support defending our country.
01:43:57.000And I'm not going to sit here and say that it was bad to stop Nazi Germany, but I do think that there were consequences of that.
01:44:05.000And I think that, you know, look at Dresden, look at what happened, or yeah, look at what happened all over Germany and how many people died and how many of our people died for something that had nothing to do with us.
01:44:16.000And they were killing a lot of people.
01:44:18.000So a lot of people ended up living because we came right.
01:44:50.000I think there's been a lot of mistakes where the U.S.
01:44:52.000has intervened and failed, and then World War II becomes the key example of why it's good, because that was really important that that ended, that we shut those people down.
01:45:04.000The challenge now is how do we deal with China?
01:45:06.000I mean, look, I don't believe the United States of the world are the world's police, but I do have a concern that we're watching China arm up.
01:45:14.000We're watching them abuse their neighbors.
01:45:17.000Potential war with India could happen, and India is an ally of ours.
01:45:21.000And so we're seeing the atrocities they commit.
01:45:24.000We're seeing them defy international law and norms, setting up military bases on the South China Sea atolls and things like that, or the Pacific atolls.
01:45:32.000They're spreading, encroaching, and becoming more and more powerful.
01:45:37.000I don't like the idea of just intervention.
01:45:45.000The other side of that coin is if we sit back while they expand in South America and Africa, gaining resources and buying out all these countries, eventually you'll be living in an authoritarian communist country.
01:47:09.000He confronted his press secretary and was like- Luke Rutkowski of We Are Change.
01:47:12.000Yeah, he was like, um, and he comments about the fact that you guys killed an American teenager, and I think it was his press secretary was like, he should have had a different father.
01:47:34.000And then two weeks later, I think it was, in a country we were not at war with, they drone-striked a civilian restaurant, killing his 16-year-old son, who I believe was born in like Boulder, Colorado.
01:48:11.000Could you imagine you blow up a restaurant?
01:48:13.000There's gonna be people there, like some dad's gonna watch this.
01:48:16.000He's gonna be across the street, it's gonna be movie-esque, and he's gonna see a restaurant get blown up, and they're gonna see the drone, they're gonna be panicking, his kid's gonna be gone, and that guy's gonna become radicalized in an instant.
01:48:26.000And he's gonna do everything in his power against us because somebody made a mistake, to go with the establishment narrative.
01:48:32.000I can't claim otherwise, I have no evidence.
01:48:34.000But then all of a sudden you end up with terror, conflict, and refugees.
01:48:39.000People fleeing these countries, their homes destroyed, and that creates even more conflict.
01:49:32.000Someone sent us files that were already public, so we ignored it.
01:49:36.000And I think Julian probably does what he thinks, or he was, I don't know what his capacity is now because of what's happening to him, but he probably focused on what he thought was the most important.
01:49:46.000And I'm not saying you have to agree with what he thinks is important.
01:49:50.000But I will argue that one of the arguments against WikiLeaks is that he was consistently targeting the US.
01:49:59.000And if you're only hitting us over and over and over again, it's going to be helping our adversaries.
01:50:08.000You know, he's released all kinds of things from all the different nations all over the country, but we're not going to talk about those cables as much here.
01:50:54.000It's funny how a lot of my political views were shaped by growing up during this time.
01:51:00.000And it's kind of crazy when I think about how much I don't know from even 10 years before I was born.
01:51:05.000Like the context of how the media operated.
01:51:08.000I wonder if I was 10 years older and I saw the flip, how it's like pro-war Democrat, then anti-war under Bush, and then pro-war under Obama again.
01:51:16.000I would have been sort of insulated from seeing, you know, from believing that the Democrats had my best interest.
01:53:32.000But don't you love Trump's blunt honesty on this stuff?
01:53:36.000Because one of my all-time favorite things Trump has ever done was when he walked up to the reporters and they're like, what's going on with this weapons deal?
01:53:56.000And I'm like, but he also calls out the military industrial complex.
01:54:01.000Like he's done it twice now and like solid.
01:54:05.000What he's talking about Syria and he's like, you know what I love?
01:54:07.000I think he does it on purpose to get at them.
01:54:10.000Trump wanted to withdraw from Syria and they all started complaining, oh no, oh no, the oil, the oil.
01:54:15.000So Trump left soldiers in and now he's just like, we're withdrawing our troops from Syria, but we're keeping the oil so the soldiers are still there to guard the oil.
01:55:56.000So I took the pot money, like the office pool money, and went and bought up all the champagne at Trump Hotel just to spend their money on it.
01:56:04.000I remember sitting there with you and we were looking at the meter that was like 99% for Hillary and it was slowly shifting and you were like, you were starting to cry once it crossed 50% and I started laughing.
01:57:33.000I'm not saying I think the world's going to end tomorrow.
01:57:35.000I'm just saying I think if Joe Biden wins, the erosion of civil liberties, the loss of ability to defend yourself, I think it's going to shift dramatically away from individual rights towards mob justice, morality policing, and identitarianism.
01:57:49.000So for me, you know, I think I just want to be left alone.
01:58:05.000And I think a lot of Americans feel that way.
01:58:08.000If Joe Biden wins, you will get the opposite of that.
01:58:11.000This guy who got indicted for defending himself from being attacked, the homeowners who are getting arrested, the mob will show up to your house and Joe Biden's going to be like, you know, the thing.
01:59:25.000If the argument is that once they get in power, then they'll agree to stop the riots, then I'm going to say F you and I'm going to go vote for Trump.
02:00:04.000Yeah, that's my point. But But I think it's, I think it's fair. There's a possibility
02:00:09.000that once the Democrats get power, like Hillary Clinton said,
02:00:12.000remember, we can have civility once we've won. That's a threat.
02:00:16.000You come to me and tell me to like, it's like this, if I'm sitting down and you come to me and go, if I'm sitting down and you walk up to me and say, keep sitting there, I'll stand up.
02:00:25.000You tell me to, if I'm sitting down, you tell me to stand up, I'll say no and I'll cross my legs.
02:02:55.000Sixumpertieranus says, Dem's rhetoric is pushing civil war.
02:02:59.000Don't pop that cork, for there won't be any ROEs for you to hide behind from men like me.
02:03:05.000We will defend our family, country, and freedom to the death from anyone.
02:03:09.000I gotta say, man, I think conservatives really do overestimate their ability to win a civil war.
02:03:15.000I was very confident about three months ago and now I'm very concerned because the police keep following orders to arrest business owners and people in their own homes and it's like The right always says the police and the military will side with us, but they're not.
02:03:36.000And it just depends on if they're in a Democrat city or Republican city.
02:03:40.000And what happens when all the tech infrastructure shuts down for all the conservatives?
02:03:46.000What happens when every single TV in the country, they go on the air and it's Joe Biden giving an address saying Donald Trump has lost the election and is now trying to stage a coup when in fact Trump won?
02:07:34.000And then there wasn't, wasn't, didn't a teacher say she wished Trump supporters would all die of COVID or something and they got suspended?
02:07:38.000It happens sometimes to these leftists, but the, the problem, as I mentioned with like the valve that it only ratchets towards the left is that they have to make a big leap before it shocks the system.
02:07:50.000And so long as they keep clicking one at a time, it just keeps getting worse and they get away with it.
02:07:53.000To the point where like Antifa can go around and the media won't talk about it.
02:07:58.000Like they go around beating people and starting fires and they're the good guys.
02:09:17.000I'm sure there might be different things for different states.
02:09:19.000And also, if you haven't already, smash the like button and subscribe.
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02:09:25.000It's Cassandra Rules, and I write for Gateway Pundit, and I have a website, District Herald, that I'm going to start using a little more frequently.
02:09:34.000And we're gonna be hanging out a lot more because now we're far away, but closer than we were before.
02:09:40.000And you know, I wish I could pan one of the cameras to show you like the ladder.
02:09:44.000Go on Tim's Instagram because he has a shot of the, not of the chaos over there, but a nice, nice wide view of the- We're building it.
02:09:52.000Tomorrow we'll get all the sound working properly.
02:09:58.000Hopefully, I mean I can't believe you guys got this done as quickly as you did I was over here, and it was just like a plain room.
02:10:04.000It was an empty room Yeah, yeah, and like I'm so surprised the walls were just regular walls And that's really cool like wood or whatever and you can't see what's behind me, but it's really amazing stuff I'm so impressed.
02:10:15.000This is another guy who did all the work He's one guy did all this in a day.
02:10:18.000It's like he's talking about skilled man, and he's a drummer Yeah, rock on DeWeed says, this year has definitely strengthened our 2A rights guaranteed.
02:12:17.000Well, the left, I think, wants to totally federalize.
02:12:20.000They want to just erode the concept of the state.
02:12:21.000They want national popular vote voting, which then means this massive country of 50 different states will be beholden to Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York.
02:13:06.000But the representatives sometimes can be such morons.
02:13:08.000So it's like how that's like they're in there for years.
02:13:12.000If you make the wrong move, they're in there for two years.
02:13:14.000I mean, you can get them out, I guess, with a referendum, right?
02:13:16.000I don't think that people, I don't think voters take voting seriously enough.
02:13:20.000I think it was Socrates who said that voting was a skill and it had to be learned and you had to study and really understand your civic duty and your options.
02:13:31.000And I don't think people do that anymore.
02:13:32.000They just like see a meme and they're like, Oh, orange man bad.
02:13:35.000Or, Oh, Biden is actually the real KKK or whatever.
02:13:39.000You know, it's, it's, people have very like, petulant political views now.
02:16:30.000And I think Trump supporters need to heed this warning because Trump really does put his foot in his mouth a lot.
02:16:35.000And regular people, as much as they like what he does, do complain about his constant behavior and his insults and the attacks and the mudslinging.
02:16:45.000That's why Trump has the really hardcore vocal bass, where they love that he goes after and he's basically fighting for you.
02:16:50.000But there are a lot of people, probably the silent majority, who won't speak up and defend him because deep down they're like, ugh, I can't believe he's doing it again, but I'll take it!
02:17:12.000I can't imagine a world with that guy.
02:17:15.000My favorite analogy was a Bridget Phetasy's article where someone sent her an email saying, I feel like I'm drowning.
02:17:21.000And in order to stay afloat, I have to grab onto this giant floating turd.
02:17:25.000And I know Trump supporters don't feel that way because Trump, like to his base, he really is like the perfect candidate in a lot of ways.
02:17:31.000I don't necessarily agree, because I think the Middle Eastern peace deals and withdrawing troops is not a floating turret, it's like a floating cupcake.
02:17:37.000It's like drowning and seeing a lifeboat, and I'm going, yes!
02:17:41.000And the lifeboat has weird, crazy, like 80s style tiger print, and it's weird looking, and I'm like, I don't care!
02:22:27.000There was some inside joke when I made it, but it was eight years ago or something, and it's not relevant to today.
02:22:34.000Well, I have to say, I have to interject, we do have a camera for Lydia, but her microphone didn't work, so you can follow at Sour Patch Lids as well, Sour Patch L-Y-D-S, because she's here still producing, but the mics and the cameras, you know, whatever.
02:22:48.000So we'll get it all fixed by next time.
02:22:50.000We're gonna be back at the original studio again tomorrow.
02:22:52.000And I don't think I'm going to announce who's coming on anymore because we've had two cancellations and I just feel bad for letting people down.
02:22:58.000So we'll just have magical people show up and we'll hang out.
02:23:00.000You can just call me whenever and I'll swing by with some pizza.
02:23:02.000Yeah, you should definitely come down.
02:23:05.000I mean, you write tons of stories, you know so much about what's going on.
02:23:08.000Just come on by and we'll have you here all the time.
02:23:12.000So let's just take a couple more Super Chats then.
02:23:14.000And also make sure to subscribe, smash the like button.
02:23:17.000Nick Lintz says, how many times do we need to see swamp creatures telling lies today that contradict their past lies?
02:24:18.000Whether or not he's been successful, he's the only one standing up against them, while the Democrats, while Joe Biden's staff literally bailed these people out, while Kamala Harris solicited donations for these people.
02:24:27.000And I think, look, There is an element of Joe Biden is really, really dangerous.
02:24:39.000Kept people in prison beyond their terms for cheap labor because they didn't want to let him out because they needed someone to fight wildfires.
02:24:51.000That's like, we could, I think they were eligible for parole and they're like, but wait, don't let him out because then who will fight the fires for a dollar an hour?
02:24:59.000Yeah, and she's running for office right now, so no.
02:25:01.000Dude, when she was up against Biden, it was like, it was a debate!
02:25:05.000She just trashed him in the Democratic primaries, and now she's just smiling and acting like his friend.
02:26:02.000If he wins again, it will crush and end the establishment.
02:26:05.000And then After that, there will be, hopefully, real populist candidates, a new system where people actually are paying attention, and the old guard will finally be gone.
02:26:16.000This is their last-ditch effort, Joe Biden.
02:26:20.000Let them walk off into the sunset and walk slowly and blissfully into the ocean and just walk deeper and deeper and then be gone from the rest of us.
02:26:28.000And then we'll find out ways to move past Trump.
02:26:32.000But I can't believe people predicate their entire identities on Trump as if We need better technology.
02:26:41.000I mean, candidates aside, we need like a technological revolution.
02:26:44.000Because riding on oil and wiring is not sustainable for much longer.
02:27:16.000Well, we don't have too much time, so.
02:27:18.000Well, basically, Nick Fuentes, controversial right-wing podcaster, I guess he's on DLive now, not YouTube, but he's very populist, nationalist, America first, but he's controversial.
02:27:32.000He's made some controversial statements.
02:27:34.000Michelle refused to disavow him, said that she didn't want to disavow anybody.
02:27:38.000She didn't want to disavow anybody who puts America first or aligns with her on her core
02:27:42.000issues which are immigration and America first nationalist populist ideology.
02:27:50.000And so the young, what are they called, YAF and all these people, they ditched her as
02:28:06.000You're canceled by, and then they hold like cancel con and all these festivals, like pretending that they're against cancel culture, but they don't put their money where their mouth is.
02:28:15.000And I adore Michelle Malkin and I will stand with her every day.
02:28:20.000Is there really a thing called cancel con?
02:28:38.000But then we're gonna come back, and the next time, we're like 90... I would say, based on where we're at so far, it sounds like we're really close to getting everything done.
02:28:46.000We just need someone to spend a day now troubleshooting, and I thought we were good, but it was yikes up until the last minute.
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02:30:17.000So, but the next time we'll just, like, we'll talk about your stories more, and we'll, like, go through segments and stuff, and, uh, and then by then Lydia will have a working mic and camera, uh, working, you know, so you'll be able to hear her again, and we'll get through all the issues, but, uh, thanks for hanging out, everybody.