Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump Vetoes NDAA In Massive Middle Finger To Establishment w- Joey Salads

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:16.000 you President Donald Trump has followed through on his threat

00:00:40.000 to veto the National Defense Authorization Act which is a massive I

00:00:43.000 think it's like 750 billion dollar bill that essentially authorizes national

00:00:48.000 defense There's a couple interesting things in it.

00:00:51.000 Most notably is an amendment that was added in July that curtails the president's power Uh, to invoke the Insurrection Act.

00:00:59.000 It would require some kind of certification through Congress, which essentially defeats the purpose of the Insurrection Act, I guess.

00:01:05.000 But Trump vetoed it not because of this.

00:01:07.000 He vetoed it because he said Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act must be repealed.

00:01:14.000 Now that would be a huge mistake.

00:01:16.000 It would likely result in... You know what?

00:01:19.000 I don't... I wonder if they would ban this show.

00:01:21.000 They probably would.

00:01:22.000 We'd probably be banned instantly.

00:01:23.000 You'd see the likes of, you know, Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro.

00:01:25.000 They'd be gone overnight.

00:01:27.000 Because what Section 30 does is it makes it so that YouTube can't be sued for the things said by me, Ben Shapiro, or Kyle Kalinske, or Steven Crowder, or anything like that.

00:01:38.000 That you'd have to actually sue those individuals for defamation if they defamed you.

00:01:42.000 If you get rid of Section 230, then you would just sue YouTube for YouTube, you know, is the one who published the content.

00:01:48.000 I certainly think Section 230 has its problems.

00:01:50.000 We need reform.

00:01:52.000 I don't think they're going to repeal it.

00:01:53.000 Mitch McConnell is saying he's going to come back in on the 29th and override Trump.

00:01:58.000 Which is a good sign that just before one of the most important elections for the Republican Party, the Republican Party has more than enough knives to place, figuratively, in Donald Trump's back.

00:02:08.000 Which means probably Trump supporters aren't gonna support the Republican Party in that capacity, but we'll see.

00:02:12.000 We got a lot to talk about.

00:02:13.000 We'll talk about Nancy Pelosi and this COVID stimulus package and stuff.

00:02:16.000 But we got a cool guest today.

00:02:18.000 You may be familiar with him from his congressional campaign.

00:02:21.000 Former congressional candidate Joey Salads has joined us.

00:02:24.000 I told you not to reference me like that.

00:02:26.000 I told you I was gonna do it.

00:02:29.000 Introduce yourself!

00:02:30.000 So yeah, I'm Joey Salads.

00:02:32.000 I do pranks and political stuff.

00:02:35.000 I don't know.

00:02:36.000 There you go.

00:02:36.000 I don't feel like I'm worthy to be on this show.

00:02:38.000 What do you mean?

00:02:38.000 Oh, you're more than worthy.

00:02:39.000 Yeah, what are you talking about?

00:02:40.000 You have like millions of subscribers.

00:02:42.000 I don't know.

00:02:42.000 It's all demonetized.

00:02:43.000 I don't even post pranks anymore on YouTube, so I don't know.

00:02:47.000 You get like tons and tons of views.

00:02:48.000 Dude, your prank stuff was pioneering, man.

00:02:51.000 It was.

00:02:51.000 I was pioneering that stuff, but...

00:02:53.000 Some controversial, for sure.

00:02:55.000 But then you ran for office, so now you're officially a former congressional candidate.

00:02:59.000 That's your official honorary title.

00:03:01.000 Forever. 0.98

00:03:01.000 It's like, oh, I'm officially a loser. 0.98

00:03:03.000 No. 0.95

00:03:04.000 Congrats.

00:03:05.000 But we can talk a lot about a lot of stuff, too.

00:03:07.000 It's interesting.

00:03:08.000 I think you're probably one of the best people to talk to about internet censorship, Section 230.

00:03:13.000 Not only are you one of the... When did you start on YouTube?

00:03:16.000 I started on, I've been doing YouTube since it came out.

00:03:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:03:19.000 And that was like, as a kid, you know, fourth grade, that was my dream.

00:03:22.000 I want to be a YouTuber.

00:03:23.000 That's what I want to do.

00:03:24.000 And you did it.

00:03:24.000 And I ended up doing it.

00:03:25.000 There you go.

00:03:26.000 You gotta do it every single day, kids.

00:03:27.000 If you're at home and you want to be a YouTuber, just do it every single day.

00:03:30.000 And eventually, if you make good stuff, Be smart, get better, right?

00:03:35.000 We're going to talk about this because the NDAA stuff overlaps with censorship and big tech, and it will be an interesting conversation.

00:03:41.000 Of course, Ian's chilling.

00:03:41.000 What up, Holmes?

00:03:42.000 And I've got the super male vitality.

00:03:44.000 That's Michael's.

00:03:45.000 Michael, thank you.

00:03:46.000 Mr. Malice, Dr. Menace.

00:03:47.000 He left it here.

00:03:48.000 It was so good that I put some in my coffee.

00:03:50.000 Does it taste good?

00:03:51.000 Yeah, I tasted it.

00:03:52.000 It's sweet.

00:03:52.000 Interesting.

00:03:53.000 I liked it so much.

00:03:53.000 I don't even know what it is.

00:03:54.000 You should have some.

00:03:55.000 No, I'm good.

00:03:56.000 Just in case you change your mind.

00:03:58.000 Super... Michael Malice's Super Male Vitality Info Wars Life, it says.

00:04:03.000 Alright.

00:04:03.000 It's really amazing how supplements are like the go-to thing that people sell.

00:04:06.000 What's up with that?

00:04:08.000 You can't tell if they work?

00:04:09.000 I think I did like two or three ads for a supplement that was a collagen supplement.

00:04:14.000 That's good for you.

00:04:15.000 But it's because I'm like an old man and I skate.

00:04:17.000 I've been taking beetroot.

00:04:18.000 I've got like an array of like ten different bottles of fruit extracts and stuff and one is beetroot extract.

00:04:24.000 It is so good.

00:04:25.000 You will feel so much better after two of those.

00:04:28.000 Are you pitching a specific beetroot company?

00:04:30.000 I will let you know.

00:04:31.000 I got you a Christmas present.

00:04:32.000 Is it beetroot extract?

00:04:33.000 It is beetroot extract.

00:04:36.000 All right.

00:04:37.000 Lydia's hanging out.

00:04:38.000 I am here pushing buttons.

00:04:39.000 She's mashing all the buttons.

00:04:41.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:04:41.000 But let's just jump in.

00:04:43.000 Let me just say something first.

00:04:44.000 We weren't actually going to do a show today.

00:04:46.000 This is interesting.

00:04:46.000 Yeah.

00:04:48.000 It's Christmas Eve Eve.

00:04:49.000 Tomorrow's Christmas Eve, so I'll let you in.

00:04:52.000 Look, if I could work every day through every holiday, I would.

00:04:55.000 The problem is two things happen on holidays like Christmas Eve and Christmas.

00:05:00.000 Nobody is working, so very little happens.

00:05:03.000 The politicians are at home, they're not talking about anything, so there's no movement.

00:05:06.000 But everybody's home.

00:05:08.000 But nobody's watching this stuff.

00:05:10.000 So like, on holidays when people, for political content I can say, at least, my views go down, because people aren't gonna turn on a podcast, listen to politics, and hang out with their family.

00:05:19.000 What I do is...

00:05:20.000 Luckily, I have so much evergreen content throughout the years, I just repost Christmas or seasonal related content every single year.

00:05:27.000 So on Christmas, I'll put up, you know, for those three, four days, I'll just re-upload, you know, hey, this was kind of Christmas related, like a package.

00:05:35.000 That's a good idea.

00:05:36.000 I should do that.

00:05:36.000 I'll go back from like a year ago to find some news segment I did.

00:05:40.000 Put it on.

00:06:02.000 We're gonna hang out.

00:06:03.000 Merry Christmas, everybody.

00:06:04.000 We're chillin'.

00:06:05.000 We weren't really gonna do a show, but then, you know, Joey's in town.

00:06:08.000 Yeah, he invited me on, on Christmas Day.

00:06:10.000 Yeah.

00:06:11.000 Well, I got the day Friday, I'm like, that's Christmas, bro.

00:06:14.000 That was a mistake, that was a mistake.

00:06:15.000 I didn't realize what day Christmas was, and I was like, maybe you can come this day, and then I was like, oh wait, just come tomorrow, dude.

00:06:20.000 Yeah.

00:06:20.000 So we got Joey here, but let's talk some news, man.

00:06:25.000 This is big.

00:06:26.000 This is Trump Veto's major defense bill, citing Section 230.

00:06:29.000 This is significant because it's the authorization for national defense.

00:06:34.000 It is a massive spending bill. 0.97

00:06:36.000 It is a ridiculous spending bill.

00:06:38.000 One of the most famous instances of the NDAA was when Obama signed into law something called the Indefinite Detention Provision.

00:06:45.000 Which was included in it, and it allowed the U.S.

00:06:46.000 government basically to, like, rendition anyone anywhere, like, take you and blackbag you, like, you know, like V for Vendetta, where Creedy puts the bag over your head and then, like, zips it and they drag you out?

00:06:56.000 That's basically what it authorized, so... You know, seeing Trump veto this, I la- When I heard Trump was gonna do it, when he tweeted about it, I started laughing.

00:07:02.000 But let's read.

00:07:03.000 TechCrunch reports, following through on his previous threat, President Trump has vetoed the $740 million, okay, million, not billion, National Defense Authorization Act, a major bill that allocates military funds each year.

00:07:16.000 In tweets earlier this month, Trump said he would sink the NDAA if it wasn't altered to include language terminating Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, an essential and previously obscure Internet law that the President has had in his crosshairs for the better part of a year.

00:07:31.000 Quote, your failure to terminate the very dangerous national security risk of Section 230 will make our intelligence virtually impossible to conduct without everyone knowing what we are doing at every step.

00:07:43.000 Trump said in a statement on the veto, it's not clear what the president meant or what he was referring to in criticizing the military funding bill as a gift to China and Russia.

00:07:51.000 I just gotta say, I have no idea what he means by that Section 230 thing.

00:07:55.000 And I think Trump fundamentally misunderstands what Section 230 is, probably because his understanding of it is being filtered through, you know, one or two people.

00:08:04.000 So you'll get someone like me being like, yo, we need Section 230 reform.

00:08:08.000 Section 230 is a problem.

00:08:10.000 Someone will hear that and then be like, yeah, Section 230 is a problem.

00:08:12.000 And then Trump will be like, it's a problem?

00:08:14.000 All right, I'll get rid of it.

00:08:14.000 It's like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:08:16.000 You get rid of it, we're all banned.

00:08:18.000 We don't want to do that.

00:08:19.000 So let's see, they say, Trump tweeted about it.

00:08:21.000 The president cited bipartisan calls for a Section 230 repeal in his decision in spite of the NDAA's overwhelming bipartisan support.

00:08:29.000 So basically what's going to happen now is Mitch McConnell says, December 29th, he's going to come back in, override Trump's vetoes to make sure every single Trump supporter knows The Republican Party hates you, hates your president.

00:08:41.000 I'm being a little hyperbolic here.

00:08:43.000 But yeah, come on.

00:08:44.000 Mitch McConnell doesn't like Trump.

00:08:45.000 It was a really great comic.

00:08:46.000 I don't know if you guys follow George Alexopoulos, who got his paintings up on the walls.

00:08:50.000 He just put one out where it basically looks like the Lion King, I guess.

00:08:54.000 Trump is hanging from a cliff and reaching out, and then Mitch McConnell jams his fingers into Trump's hands, and then Trump's falling to his death, like the Lion King in Scar.

00:09:03.000 Oh, I want that one.

00:09:04.000 Yeah, it's so good, man.

00:09:06.000 I'd love to get it.

00:09:07.000 Awesome.

00:09:07.000 But, uh, look.

00:09:09.000 If Section 230 goes, our show's gone.

00:09:13.000 The reason why there's probably bipartisan calls to repeal Section 230 is because the Establishment hates us.

00:09:20.000 They hate you.

00:09:21.000 They do.

00:09:22.000 Now I'm not being hyperbolic.

00:09:24.000 They hate you, they hate me, they hate Joey, they hate Ian.

00:09:26.000 They especially hate Lydia.

00:09:27.000 The Establishment just really doesn't like you.

00:09:29.000 I know.

00:09:29.000 What is it about Lydia?

00:09:30.000 I don't know.

00:09:30.000 Because she's pushing the buttons, man.

00:09:32.000 That's true.

00:09:33.000 They're like, ugh, Lydia.

00:09:35.000 Yeah, so look, the establishment Democrats would love it if the mainstream media were the only game in town.

00:09:40.000 And so you get rid of Section 230, and then overnight, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube are flooded with lawsuits, many of them probably meritless, and then they're just gonna be like, we're done, ban everybody.

00:09:50.000 We don't care.

00:09:50.000 You know what YouTube will do?

00:09:51.000 They would love this.

00:09:52.000 YouTube's been trying to get rid of everybody for a long time.

00:09:55.000 And so they're doing something like, uh, I don't know if you saw this, Joey, with what Pornhub just did recently.

00:10:00.000 I did see that.

00:10:01.000 Banned all non-verified content.

00:10:03.000 That's it.

00:10:04.000 If you're not a verified channel, you're gone.

00:10:05.000 I used to have a whole, uh, photo.

00:10:07.000 Pornhub channel?

00:10:08.000 Yeah, no, like, uh, bookmarked.

00:10:10.000 Like, my favorite porn.

00:10:12.000 I was like, mom, about ten years worth of stuff.

00:10:17.000 I'm with you.

00:10:18.000 70, 80% of it's gone.

00:10:19.000 I'm like, ah, this has been my library, you know?

00:10:22.000 Evergreen content, you know?

00:10:23.000 The livelihoods for some people, I mean, in all seriousness, a lot of people just lost their jobs when that happened.

00:10:28.000 I know there's a lot- I know there's, like, porn hub, like, creators, like, YouTube.

00:10:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:32.000 And, like, they'll do, like, porn vlogs.

00:10:34.000 Am I allowed to say that word?

00:10:35.000 Oh, cool.

00:10:36.000 I guess.

00:10:36.000 I don't know.

00:10:36.000 I don't- Probably not.

00:10:37.000 We'll probably demonetize.

00:10:38.000 Whatever.

00:10:39.000 Whatever.

00:10:40.000 Merry Christmas, everybody!

00:10:41.000 Vlogs?

00:10:42.000 But, yeah, but, like, it's- it's, like, people have their own channels, and, you know, they can make money, I guess.

00:10:47.000 I don't, I don't, I, I, uh, my understanding is now they're doing crypto because MasterCard and Visa cut them off.

00:10:51.000 But this is what's coming for everybody.

00:10:53.000 They start with Pornhub.

00:10:54.000 They always do it this way too, because they know regular people won't publicly fight for it for the most part.

00:11:00.000 Like nobody wants to get on a pedestal and be like, we must protect our porn!

00:11:04.000 Yeah.

00:11:05.000 They're going to be like, nah.

00:11:06.000 They go after the worst of society first.

00:11:08.000 Or just like the, the socially, the fringes.

00:11:11.000 And now I'll tell you what comes next.

00:11:13.000 They did this thing, we talked about it a little bit last week, where YouTube got rid of verification for tons of channels.

00:11:19.000 You remember that?

00:11:19.000 Yeah.

00:11:20.000 I remember they stripped... I wonder if I'm still verified.

00:11:24.000 Well, there was a backlash, and so they said, OK, we're not going to do that.

00:11:26.000 We're not going to do that.

00:11:27.000 I was actually one of the approved channels, where I got an email saying, you're all good, we love you, you're verified.

00:11:32.000 But eventually, I think what's going to happen is, they're going to start... So right now, they already said, we're going to put ads on content that isn't in the Partner Program.

00:11:40.000 Meaning, you upload videos, they'll make money off you.

00:11:44.000 Because YouTube's losing hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

00:11:48.000 Oh yeah, just non-stop.

00:11:49.000 I think what comes next is, they're going to be like, if you're not a verified account in the Partner Program, We are going to stop promoting you in the algorithm.

00:11:58.000 And they're going to say, you'll still be able, or they'll say like, we'll stop recommending you as much.

00:12:02.000 This is because, you know, we're trying to improve quality for all of our creators and make sure they can make money.

00:12:07.000 It'll be great news for all of the bigger creators who will now see bigger viewership and things like that.

00:12:12.000 And then they're going to start, they're going to tell, they're going to start getting rid of smaller channels, fringe channels, people with the wrong opinions.

00:12:17.000 Yeah.

00:12:18.000 Gone, gone, gone.

00:12:18.000 And you know what?

00:12:19.000 It's, it's two things.

00:12:20.000 They're doing it one for business reasons and then two, because they have bias.

00:12:25.000 And the business reasons why they're doing it is because the whole adpocalypse situations, where, you know, CNN or the late night show, they can post whatever they want.

00:12:36.000 And they have reserve ads on the back end, where they're- What does that mean, reserve ads?

00:12:43.000 I'm assuming they're in the Google Preferred program where they're getting the most exclusive, highest paying ads.

00:12:49.000 And then also on the back end to fill the extra ad slots, they have direct deals with companies like Coca-Cola to fill that extra space and they pay a premium.

00:12:59.000 So obviously YouTube and Google, they get a cut of that.

00:13:02.000 So that's one of the reasons why they want to promote traditional media there because they have their own set of ads from direct deals.

00:13:11.000 Business-wise, it makes sense, but that's not what YouTube is.

00:13:15.000 And that content only gets views when they feature it on the homepage.

00:13:19.000 When you go to the front page of YouTube, and I'm sure all of you watching have seen this, there's like the COVID news bar and everything's thumbs down to oblivion.

00:13:27.000 It's like 10, 20% thumbs up. 0.94

00:13:29.000 It's all just obliterated because nobody wants to watch that garbage. 0.81

00:13:32.000 So YouTube's trying to be Netflix.

00:13:34.000 If we get rid of Section 230, YouTube's gonna start square dancing, all the CEOs are gonna be laughing, they're gonna be like, that's it, all the conservatives, all the moderates, independents, you're gone.

00:13:44.000 MSNBC guys, you know, progressives, all right, we'll give you a pass.

00:13:48.000 But if we keep Section 230, the track we're on right now is still really bad for independent voices, smaller channels, or anybody who's even big and wants to challenge the system.

00:13:59.000 Because you could have a million subs, but you give a wrong opinion, you're gone.

00:14:03.000 Yeah, and it's... With these social medias, the thing is, I'm more into the free market, where at first, when this was an issue like five years ago, I was like, eh, you know, they can do what they want, they're a business, you know, they can operate it however they want.

00:14:17.000 But then over time, realizing...

00:14:20.000 These social medias have been monopoly on free speech on the internet.

00:14:23.000 Like the World Wide Web, like if you make your own website, you can only generate traffic to your website is if you promote it on Twitter, promote it on YouTube, promote it on Facebook.

00:14:32.000 Buy ads, buy a billboard, I guess.

00:14:34.000 Yeah, a billboard on Sunset Boulevard.

00:14:37.000 Or a commercial on the Super Bowl for a million dollars.

00:14:39.000 Yeah.

00:14:40.000 How much did that cost?

00:14:41.000 Something like that.

00:14:42.000 A million dollars a minute or something.

00:14:43.000 Are they more?

00:14:44.000 Probably way more than that.

00:14:45.000 Yeah, it's probably like $20,000.

00:14:46.000 But, like, you could make a YouTube video that's worth ten times a commercial on the Super Bowl.

00:14:50.000 I should buy a billboard somewhere.

00:14:52.000 Well, Super Bowl commercials are, like, notoriously bad for no ROI.

00:14:56.000 Like, if you're a new company and you're getting Super Bowl commercials, like, you're stocked tanks.

00:15:00.000 Really?

00:15:01.000 Yeah.

00:15:01.000 Because they know it's a bad investment.

00:15:03.000 I think it was Pets.com is, like, one of the most famous stories.

00:15:06.000 I think it's pet one of the, it was like a pet type of website for adopting animals.

00:15:10.000 And they spent like tens of millions of dollars and, you know, six months later, a year later, they're out of business because they got no return on that investment.

00:15:18.000 And like the problem with billboards and commercials is that there's no click through.

00:15:21.000 You can't like see a commercial and click the button to go to the website.

00:15:25.000 Whereas on Twitter, you just click the link and you can target exactly who you want to target.

00:15:29.000 Everybody who loves pets and animals, anyone who's Googling how to buy a dog, you can target them.

00:15:35.000 Google set it up that way too.

00:15:37.000 They set up their algorithms to track what people like so that you could use their service to find people that like what you're looking for.

00:15:43.000 Yeah, and they're all sharing data.

00:15:45.000 So my girlfriend for for my birthday, she got me an air fryer, and she ordered it on Amazon. 0.54

00:15:52.000 And then we're watching TV, we're watching IMD.

00:15:54.000 I am BDTV, and we're watching Malcolm in the Middle.

00:15:57.000 And an ad for that exact thing that she bought pops on the TV.

00:16:01.000 Yeah.

00:16:01.000 The exact product, the exact listing.

00:16:02.000 It happens all the time, man.

00:16:03.000 It's creepy.

00:16:04.000 Yeah.

00:16:04.000 They know you better than you know yourself.

00:16:06.000 Yeah.

00:16:06.000 Facebook knows when you poop.

00:16:07.000 I'm not kidding.

00:16:08.000 I was reading an article about it.

00:16:10.000 Yeah, because people don't realize that there's things like your favorite color correlates to other things about you.

00:16:19.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:21.000 So someone could ask you a bunch of questions that you think makes no sense.

00:16:24.000 They'll be like, what's your favorite color?

00:16:26.000 What's your favorite sport?

00:16:28.000 You know, where are you from?

00:16:29.000 And then all of a sudden they'll be like, your favorite pasta is, you know, linguine and pesto.

00:16:33.000 And you're like, what?

00:16:33.000 How did you know that?

00:16:34.000 They're making like a statistical analysis.

00:16:35.000 People who like this also like that.

00:16:37.000 Right.

00:16:38.000 You know, if you like all three of these things, you're definitely liking this fourth one.

00:16:41.000 I'll tell you what.

00:16:44.000 If YouTube does the verification purge, it's going to be really, really good business-wise for channels like this.

00:16:53.000 So, right now, I remember when YouTube did that announcement about, what was it, what was it called, like the CP something, the Child Protection Act, CPG?

00:17:01.000 Yeah.

00:17:02.000 And everyone's freaking out.

00:17:03.000 All of the creators that do vlogs were really worried.

00:17:06.000 Because they were like, if we're deemed a channel for children, we don't get access to targeted ads and our revenue is going to drop by like 80%.

00:17:14.000 And I started laughing, I'm like, wow, this is great.

00:17:16.000 I do politics.

00:17:17.000 There's no way you're gonna argue this stuff for kids.

00:17:20.000 And that means we're gonna get all of those targeted ads and all that.

00:17:24.000 Everyone's gonna go more likely to us than them.

00:17:26.000 If YouTube purges, you know, over time from the partner program, a bunch of channels, that means, and they start promoting more verified and confirmed.

00:17:34.000 The viewers consolidate around the top 1% of the top 1%.

00:17:38.000 What did they say, it's like 40 million, what is it, how many views per month?

00:17:40.000 Does YouTube got a billion? 1.00

00:17:42.000 Shit. 1.00

00:17:43.000 Billion views. 1.00

00:17:44.000 But if you got a billion channels and there's a billion views, you know, you get one view per channel.

00:17:48.000 So get rid of all but ten channels and now everyone's getting, you know, a hundred million.

00:17:52.000 They're kind of doing it already.

00:17:53.000 They have their select group of favored creators.

00:17:55.000 They're the only ones that have access to the trending tab.

00:17:58.000 They're getting, you know, Google Premium ads.

00:18:01.000 You know, they're on all the VidCon billboards.

00:18:03.000 You know, I think Google, YouTube owns the VidCon event, which is like the creator type of thing.

00:18:08.000 Trash event, by the way.

00:18:09.000 That was made by, um, the Vlogbrothers. 0.77

00:18:12.000 Didn't they, didn't they Inceptualize?

00:18:14.000 Yeah, that was, uh, the Greens, right?

00:18:15.000 Yeah, yeah, John and... Those guys went crazy.

00:18:17.000 Hank and John, yeah, yeah.

00:18:18.000 Hank.

00:18:19.000 Yeah, those two.

00:18:19.000 They went, they went kind of crazy.

00:18:21.000 It's really, it's really, it's really weird how the social media drift created this class of people who were trying to outleft each other.

00:18:30.000 That's so weird.

00:18:31.000 It's like, bro, remember where Jon Stewart used to be?

00:18:34.000 That's where we were all at.

00:18:35.000 But you guys kept trying to one-up each other, I guess to like prove your value or virtue.

00:18:40.000 Yeah, that's what I was about to say.

00:18:41.000 So they went further and further left every single day.

00:18:43.000 That's how they make themselves feel morally superior.

00:18:46.000 So they're morally superior to you because they support Black Lives Matter. 1.00

00:18:51.000 They care about black people.

00:18:52.000 You don't.

00:18:53.000 Well, but I think like, you know, like the Vlogbrothers were doing it because it was popular marketing.

00:19:00.000 So, you know, you get social media and all of a sudden the craziest activists are screaming at their lungs.

00:19:05.000 And then you're like, how do I get attention?

00:19:07.000 Wow, everybody's talking about this.

00:19:09.000 I should talk about this too.

00:19:11.000 So you, look, it makes sense, man.

00:19:13.000 If you're trying to, if you're in the business of attention, where, this is what we are, this is Joe, like the goal of this show, not directly, is to keep people watching it as long as possible.

00:19:24.000 The goal of YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter is to keep you looking at that screen on their website as long as possible.

00:19:29.000 It's the attention economy.

00:19:30.000 And then, as we do, we sell ads.

00:19:33.000 So for us, it makes sense to talk about important political news and, you know, talk about what we believe in and stuff.

00:19:39.000 And naturally that generates an audience of like-minded people.

00:19:42.000 What they're doing is the inverse.

00:19:44.000 They see a big audience of crazy far leftists and they think, that's my path to make money.

00:19:49.000 Now it's funny as a leftist accused like us of doing that grifting of like, they're like, Tim pool used to be like super left and now he's conservative or whatever.

00:19:57.000 And it's like, well, first of all, like opinions change.

00:19:59.000 Like earlier this year, I was not pro I was not to a like hardcore as I am now.

00:20:04.000 Now I'm like very much to a.

00:20:05.000 It's between you kind of drifting a little bit more right and then also the spectrum of the left also shifting.

00:20:12.000 But I actually moved further left, actually.

00:20:15.000 So my political compass test, I'm actually further left libertarian.

00:20:19.000 I used to be pretty liberal, now it's like down and more left libertarian.

00:20:24.000 Leftists are not... A lot of conservatives don't get this.

00:20:27.000 The actual economic left, libertarian, they are pro-gun.

00:20:31.000 They're not anti-gun.

00:20:33.000 It's the establishment elites, the authoritarian groups that are pro-gun.

00:20:37.000 Even the authoritarian communist types are pro-gun.

00:20:39.000 How are they going to have the revolution?

00:20:41.000 So they're definitely pro-gun.

00:20:42.000 There's like a Reddit page for socialist gun rights and stuff like that.

00:20:48.000 So anyway, what happens is, you have people like the Vlogbrothers, who are, you know, look.

00:20:54.000 I'll leave them out of this, but I'll wrap them in the bigger picture.

00:20:56.000 Celebrity.

00:20:57.000 What are celebrities for? 0.81

00:20:59.000 They're marketing.

00:21:00.000 That's it.

00:21:01.000 They're people.

00:21:02.000 They are marketing.

00:21:03.000 The reason why they put Brad Pitt in the movie is because they put Brad Pitt's name on it and you go see the movie.

00:21:07.000 So, the same thing with these YouTubers. 0.96

00:21:09.000 The goal is they want to generate as much attention as possible.

00:21:13.000 When they see everyone's clamoring about social justice, they're like, ooh, I can do that too!

00:21:17.000 I can do that too!

00:21:18.000 The right has that.

00:21:20.000 You know, there are certainly people who are like, I've decided to support this or that because it's gonna make me money.

00:21:24.000 But I think that's a tendency of the left more so.

00:21:27.000 So it's like, it's disproportionate.

00:21:28.000 You have more leftists, or fake leftists who pretend to be left, doing that, than you have people supporting Trump.

00:21:34.000 The people who support Trump tend to REALLY support the guy.

00:21:38.000 Yeah, and it's, when Trump, you know, supposedly lost the election, I was just getting flooded with people saying, give it up already, stop crying, you crybaby, Trump lost, get over it.

00:21:47.000 I'm like, wait, first off, the election's not over, Trump didn't concede, whatever's happening's happening.

00:21:51.000 But I'm like, they don't understand the difference between having a passion for the country, a passion for actually liking the president.

00:21:58.000 They don't understand the difference between having a passion and then yelling and screaming and crying at the sky.

00:22:04.000 You know, when Trump lost election night, we, you know, we took, what's the legal process?

00:22:10.000 Let's investigate.

00:22:10.000 Let's do this.

00:22:11.000 Let's do that.

00:22:12.000 When the Democrats lost in 2016, it was just screaming and yelling at the sky.

00:22:16.000 They had their celebrity videos where they were like, the electors, you must not vote for Trump, you must be faithless and defy.

00:22:23.000 Right now in Iowa, there's a woman, her name is Rita Hart, she lost by six votes. 0.93

00:22:28.000 Guess what she's doing? 0.98

00:22:30.000 Suing to overturn the results.

00:22:32.000 Arguing that they should reinstate 22 mail-in ballots that were disqualified, because then she wins.

00:22:37.000 And I say, okay, well, you have the legal right to do it, by all means.

00:22:40.000 It's funny, though.

00:22:41.000 When these elections are that close, and even Trump lost by 10,000 votes in some states, states with 3 million, 4 million in population.

00:22:52.000 10,000 votes is nothing comparatively to the population.

00:22:54.000 Well, you know Trump only won 2016 by like 77,000 votes.

00:22:58.000 He got a big electoral victory, but there were three states where he only got like 0.1%, like really thin margins.

00:23:05.000 But it's funny to see the Democrats are like, when we lose, it's okay for us to overturn the results.

00:23:11.000 And I don't see any of these news outlets saying, this is shaking confidence in our elections, and it's evil and wrong.

00:23:17.000 No, they're in support of it.

00:23:18.000 The person who's filing the suit on her behalf, or who's working with a lawyer, is one of the lead critics of Trump in his legal effort to overturn the results.

00:23:28.000 So it's like this guy goes on Twitter all day and he's like, Trump is, you know, what he's doing is wrong and he's going to lose. 0.92

00:23:33.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:23:33.000 How dare he? 0.99

00:23:34.000 And then I'm going to file the exact same lawsuit for my person.

00:23:37.000 Don't look over here, everybody.

00:23:38.000 The left, their ideology is like a sliding scale.

00:23:41.000 There's no consistency.

00:23:43.000 All about what benefits them at that particular moment at that point in time.

00:23:47.000 Right.

00:23:47.000 Where one day, the left can be on Twitter praising the Constitution because something went their way.

00:23:52.000 And then the next day, say, the Constitution was founded by a bunch of racists.

00:23:56.000 Right, right, right.

00:23:57.000 And now we need to destroy it.

00:23:58.000 So, wait, yesterday you just loved the Constitution because it helped you.

00:24:01.000 Now you want to rip it.

00:24:02.000 Of course, of course.

00:24:03.000 I was thinking that power, just kind of in general, that power, they say power corrupts people.

00:24:07.000 And that we get this social media uh view count is like a source of power when you have the ability to go click a button and tell someone something and a thousand people hear you say it that people are getting slowly driven insane and then when they get the likes and they're like oh when i did that complaint it got a bunch more likes from those creeps and then they get even crazier and so you've got people in politics going crazy that we call them the left or the people in social media like brad not brad pitts crazy but these cult you know these

00:24:36.000 These YouTubers that end up going too far.

00:24:39.000 And it happens on both sides too.

00:24:41.000 I mean, it happened with me at points on Twitter.

00:24:43.000 It's like, okay, let me keep saying this and it keeps getting more and more likes or let me make videos on this and just push the edge.

00:24:49.000 It drove me to insanity in the early days of YouTube.

00:24:52.000 I thought the only reason people liked me was because I was crazy.

00:24:55.000 Like I would smoke weed and talk about the craziest stuff. 0.67

00:24:58.000 People like, this guy's insane, this guy's insane, but those videos would get the most views.

00:25:03.000 And so I kept doing it and tried to out-insane myself, and I was getting depressed, and it drove me insane. 0.65

00:25:08.000 I almost killed myself.

00:25:09.000 That's why I went so controversial online with my pranks, because the algorithms were rewarding being controversial, being offensive, you know, doing crazy, crazy, just crazy and crazy, and you get to that point where you're realizing, oh wow, I took it kind of far.

00:25:26.000 And then you kind of take that step back.

00:25:28.000 There's people who don't realize they get caught in the algorithmic loop, and then they start producing more and more and more.

00:25:35.000 I think people need to recognize what this is, but I will tell you something.

00:25:39.000 These big tech companies will ban the right, so the wall is set, right?

00:25:43.000 So if you're on the right, and you start seeing, you'll tweet something, you'll get more likes, so you tweet more of it, you go crazy, you get more followers, you get more shares.

00:25:53.000 Then Twitter bans you.

00:25:54.000 You went too far, they say.

00:25:56.000 We see you go too far.

00:25:57.000 You should've stopped.

00:25:58.000 It's too bad.

00:25:59.000 You're out.

00:26:00.000 On the left, you can literally call for riots and terrorism and violence, and they won't remove it.

00:26:06.000 Yeah, listen to this.

00:26:07.000 When I got banned on Twitter, I made another account called NotJoeySalads or whatever, and it was not me.

00:26:12.000 Somebody else was running it for me.

00:26:15.000 And I did that.

00:26:16.000 Actually, I went through three different Twitter accounts.

00:26:18.000 So that account in particular got banned because I said, I replied to the L.A.

00:26:24.000 mayor saying, but sure, just let them burn the city down sarcastically because he was talking about Black Lives Matter or whatnot.

00:26:31.000 And I got banned for inciting violence immediately.

00:26:34.000 The very next day was when they were calling for riots.

00:26:39.000 Oh, because RBJ Ginsburg died.

00:26:42.000 Yeah.

00:26:42.000 Wow.

00:26:42.000 very next day was trending, burn it down, or whatever.

00:26:46.000 Of course, of course, man.

00:26:47.000 And I got banned for being sarcastic.

00:26:49.000 When I was on the Joe Rogan show with the people from Twitter,

00:26:52.000 we pulled up a tweet that had been up for months that was calling, like, there was a,

00:26:58.000 I think the tweet itself was a felony.

00:26:59.000 And I was like, why is that tweet still there?

00:27:02.000 And they're like, uh, I don't know.

00:27:04.000 Oh, we can't monitor every single tweet.

00:27:06.000 And I was like, but you could see that replies to it were banned.

00:27:09.000 Yeah.

00:27:10.000 So you had this tweet from an Antifa account calling for overt violence, instructing people to commit violent, you know, felonious acts.

00:27:17.000 And it was fine.

00:27:19.000 Below it, it was like, this tweet has been removed for violation of policy.

00:27:21.000 This is removed, removed, removed, removed.

00:27:23.000 And so when they were like, well, you know, people have to report these things for us to notice.

00:27:26.000 And I was like, the replies are banned.

00:27:29.000 Clearly people are reporting this like crazy and each other.

00:27:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:27:33.000 I'm telling you right now, all these social medias, if they don't, they're stupid. 1.00

00:27:37.000 They definitely have certain key phrase algorithms that determine if you tweet saying, I want you to burn whatever down, whatever. 1.00

00:27:45.000 They know in their algorithm.

00:27:47.000 And I know TikTok does this a lot.

00:27:48.000 If they scan the video and they notice something that's questionable, they'll actually put the video on hold, send it to a review, to determine, okay, was this a violation?

00:27:57.000 Okay, it wasn't.

00:27:58.000 And then it gets cleared.

00:28:00.000 But you know what TikTok used to do?

00:28:02.000 It was really clever.

00:28:04.000 If on YouTube, somebody is getting cyberbullied, YouTube will ban the bullies.

00:28:11.000 On TikTok, if somebody was getting cyberbullied, they'd ban the victim.

00:28:15.000 Because think about it, it makes a lot of sense.

00:28:17.000 If you don't want bullying on your platform, do you ban the 300 bullies or the one victim?

00:28:23.000 Well, if you want your user numbers to be inflated, you don't want to ban 300 people.

00:28:27.000 Can't do that.

00:28:28.000 Ban the victim! 1.00

00:28:29.000 Now the bullying is gone.

00:28:30.000 Congratulations, only beautiful people get to be on our platform.

00:28:32.000 Yeah, TikTok's done a lot of sketchy stuff when it comes to, you know, favoring beautiful people in the algorithm.

00:28:38.000 It's China. 0.90

00:28:39.000 It's weird because when I'm on TikTok, even though it's owned by China or in bed with China, it's still, I think, more free speech than the other platforms. 0.59

00:28:53.000 I think, without getting too specific, some of these social networks Or fake.

00:29:00.000 Fake likes, fake views.

00:29:01.000 I mean, remember what Facebook was doing with inflating their view counts by like 90%?

00:29:06.000 Remember that?

00:29:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:07.000 Did they get sued?

00:29:08.000 I thought they got sued, like a bunch of- The advertisers, I think, got really mad.

00:29:12.000 Yeah, dude.

00:29:13.000 So Facebook would- you'd play a video, and it would say you had 100,000 views, when you actually only had like 10,000.

00:29:22.000 Now they count it, because I don't know if they were actually making it fake, but you know when you post a video or something on Facebook?

00:29:28.000 It's like you would scroll past it and it would tick it off.

00:29:30.000 Yeah, that counts.

00:29:31.000 So your videos will sometimes be like 100,000 reach, 20,000 views.

00:29:36.000 So it was on 100,000 people seen it as they were scrolling.

00:29:39.000 But they didn't actually watch it.

00:29:40.000 But now it only counts if you watch for three seconds or more.

00:29:44.000 Is that like a legal thing?

00:29:45.000 Is there like a law that it has to be three seconds?

00:29:47.000 No, but what was happening was, People were selling ads, and Facebook was selling ads, and then Facebook would be like, oh look, a million views!

00:29:55.000 Congratulations, that'll be, you know, X amount of dollars.

00:29:59.000 But then people found out, wait a minute, those views aren't real because they just scrolled past it and didn't actually watch it in any capacity.

00:30:05.000 So, dude, this was Facebook destroying the news industry.

00:30:10.000 No joke.

00:30:12.000 I, I, there's some companies I know that were very prominent mainstream networks that have gone bankrupt or shuttered the divisions that they had set up.

00:30:20.000 There's some companies that would do YouTube videos and they had millions of subscribers combined.

00:30:26.000 Maybe like 500,000 here, a million here, maybe, you know, 1.2 million.

00:30:30.000 And I had a meeting in San Francisco with some of these companies, because I was working for Fusion at the time, and they were telling me how Facebook was the key.

00:30:40.000 Facebook's where it's at.

00:30:41.000 You don't understand.

00:30:42.000 And I said, bro, what do you mean I don't understand?

00:30:43.000 YouTube is where it's at.

00:30:45.000 And they were like, no, no, no, man.

00:30:47.000 Like, we put up a video on YouTube, we'll get like 100,000 views.

00:30:48.000 We put it on Facebook, we'll get like 10 million.

00:30:51.000 And I was like, those aren't real, dude.

00:30:53.000 There's no way. 1.00

00:30:54.000 You put up your dumb video and got 10 million views. 0.99

00:30:57.000 The good thing about Facebook is everybody has a profile with hundreds of friends. 1.00

00:31:02.000 Right.

00:31:02.000 So someone could easily share.

00:31:04.000 YouTube, you gotta get the algorithm.

00:31:05.000 But check it out, I was right.

00:31:06.000 And so what these guys were telling me, I remember I was at a lunch in San Francisco.

00:31:09.000 It was like the three video heads of like three different digital production companies that were on social media, with YouTube being their principal place for production.

00:31:18.000 And I was, I was like, YouTube all the way, man.

00:31:20.000 I was like, I can see the community, I can see the interaction, I can see the excitement, I can see the virality.

00:31:25.000 On Facebook, it's just like one day you put up a video and then, boop, it's got 10 million views, and I'm like, where'd that come from?

00:31:29.000 Yeah.

00:31:30.000 And they said, you're wrong, bro.

00:31:31.000 The industry is changing.

00:31:32.000 You don't want to be like Blockbuster Video, you want to be like Netflix.

00:31:35.000 And I said, no, it's smoke and mirrors.

00:31:38.000 These guys are out of jobs.

00:31:39.000 Those divisions all shut down because when they were putting in like, they'd have like a budget for like a million bucks or whatever for their production for the year.

00:31:46.000 And these are big companies.

00:31:48.000 And then when they said shift the production to favor Facebook, and then Facebook didn't turn anything back for them, didn't give them a return.

00:31:56.000 They just fizzled out, ran out of money, and then their bosses were like, we just lost a million bucks, made nothing, get out, you're fired.

00:32:01.000 Yeah, like the retention time difference between Facebook and YouTube, I can put up a video on Facebook, 30 to 50 second retention time.

00:32:08.000 Same video on YouTube, you know, 6-7 minutes.

00:32:11.000 Exactly.

00:32:11.000 That's the difference.

00:32:12.000 And Facebook right now, they're making that algorithm push into the watch tab.

00:32:15.000 They made a whole nother section on Facebook now.

00:32:17.000 I guess they're trying to kind of compete with YouTube, and they're favoring the higher retention content to kind of keep you on the phone.

00:32:24.000 They want you to turn the phone sideways and watch a piece of content.

00:32:28.000 With Facebook, you can slide down.

00:32:29.000 You see it, you click it, but then there's this like sliding mentality you're in, so you keep going.

00:32:33.000 Whereas YouTube, you have to click a button to go there.

00:32:36.000 There's nowhere to slide to, unless you want to read the comments.

00:32:39.000 Yeah.

00:32:39.000 And you're invested.

00:32:40.000 You're actively engaging and clicking on a piece of content you want to watch.

00:32:43.000 It's a drug, bro.

00:32:44.000 It's like the worst drug of our time.

00:32:46.000 Yeah.

00:32:46.000 So you're off Twitter now.

00:32:47.000 Off Twitter.

00:32:48.000 And how's that been?

00:32:50.000 Oh my gosh.

00:32:50.000 My mental health is so much better.

00:32:55.000 Once you get off Twitter, you realize that's not reality.

00:32:57.000 That's not the world.

00:32:59.000 It's been harder to keep up on politics and what's going on.

00:33:02.000 I used to know everything and all the times.

00:33:04.000 Now, I know nothing about what happened today.

00:33:06.000 Absolutely nothing.

00:33:07.000 Trump did a backflip.

00:33:09.000 Yeah, Twitter is a disaster.

00:33:09.000 It's an addiction.

00:33:10.000 And they know that the likes and shares and retweets, those numbers are what drive people to keep doing it.

00:33:14.000 the back. No, I'm kidding. Yeah, Twitter is a disaster. It's an addiction and they know that

00:33:20.000 the likes and shares and retweets, those numbers are what drive people to keep doing it. It's

00:33:25.000 making the country go insane. They know it.

00:33:28.000 They don't care.

00:33:29.000 They're trying to make money off.

00:33:31.000 They're trying to keep you going back to so a lot of social medias I mean have a theory that if you're not like going on the platform Like they'll kind of send a little engagement your way to keep you opening the app up again Keep you engaged and looking right you know you having the notifications on like oh, I got a new follower you click on it now You're exactly I think in the beginning of YouTube.

00:33:50.000 I don't know how it was for you guys, but oh For me, it was, I wanted to make videos and tell my friends about this book I read.

00:33:56.000 And MySpace wasn't fast enough.

00:33:58.000 So I would make, it wasn't about how many people saw it.

00:34:00.000 It was, did Eric see it?

00:34:01.000 YouTube had friends.

00:34:02.000 Yeah.

00:34:03.000 I wanted to share it with my friends.

00:34:04.000 And then people could make video responses and you had these little communities of people.

00:34:08.000 And now that it's like, I don't know if they really want to just get people off the platform, these non-verified people, because they're taking up too much bandwidth and they're too much of a liability.

00:34:17.000 Especially if 230 goes down, then they're really alive.

00:34:19.000 Exactly.

00:34:20.000 And become more like a TV station like Netflix.

00:34:22.000 Yes, that's a fact.

00:34:23.000 But we need some website where any kid can start making YouTube videos and talk to another guy that's making videos.

00:34:31.000 It doesn't have to be YouTube videos.

00:34:32.000 I've just got that phrase stuck in my head from 2006.

00:34:36.000 YouTube employees have told me, and this is years ago, they want to be Netflix.

00:34:42.000 So in the early days of YouTube.

00:34:44.000 Well, look at the market cap of Netflix.

00:34:46.000 Right.

00:34:47.000 Exactly.

00:34:47.000 $200 million.

00:34:48.000 And so YouTube's tried doing originals.

00:34:50.000 Disney's trying to be Netflix.

00:34:52.000 They're doing a good job.

00:34:53.000 It's gotta be a headache to deal with all the errant people that are saying like, burn it.

00:34:58.000 If they say crazy stuff, then you're, you're not responsible.

00:35:00.000 But if you don't do anything and it's illegal, then you become responsible.

00:35:04.000 No.

00:35:05.000 Well, if someone puts illegal content on YouTube, it's YouTube's job to take it down.

00:35:08.000 Or aren't they responsible for hosting illegal content?

00:35:11.000 Section 230 protects them.

00:35:12.000 Do you think it's illegal?

00:35:13.000 They're not liable for content posted by individuals.

00:35:18.000 So they will ban everybody if 230 gets repealed.

00:35:22.000 It'll be the end of the internet as we know it, man.

00:35:24.000 What if the plan is to repeal it and replace it immediately with something else?

00:35:28.000 That will never happen.

00:35:28.000 You don't think so?

00:35:29.000 The Democrats right now are probably sitting in a room with the Republican establishment are sitting in a room together, and because this is a family-friendly show, I will say they're sitting in a circle all patting each other on the back.

00:35:43.000 Going like, yes, yes, this is great, you know, we're having a good time.

00:35:46.000 They're all shaking hands. 0.99

00:35:47.000 A circle of jerks high-fiving each other. 1.00

00:35:50.000 What a bunch of jerks. 1.00

00:35:51.000 And when, right now, they're probably going, oh no, Trump, oh jeez, you want us to repeal Section 230? 1.00

00:35:58.000 Oh man, I guess we have to.

00:36:01.000 That is actually a good thing.

00:36:05.000 What if because they mass banned people like me, you, and the little guy, then now it forces us to go to an alternative platform.

00:36:12.000 Or to start our own platform.

00:36:14.000 YouTube is the platform, the place to be if you want to make long-form video content, and that's the only place you can go to get views.

00:36:21.000 But now what happens if the you of the YouTube gets completely taken out?

00:36:25.000 I'll tell you.

00:36:25.000 Now, oh, I guess I'll try Rumble or Netflix exists, but Netflix doesn't allow anyone to post.

00:36:31.000 They approve.

00:36:32.000 So what would end up happening is... Like Roku, the OTTs?

00:36:36.000 They just allow anything, right?

00:36:37.000 They allow people to... yeah.

00:36:39.000 So here's my bet.

00:36:40.000 You know what?

00:36:41.000 I'm not gonna... I've had people telling me I'm wrong several times.

00:36:45.000 They super chat and they're like, you're wrong, Tim.

00:36:47.000 2.30's gotta go.

00:36:47.000 You don't get it.

00:36:48.000 I'm like, alright, dude.

00:36:49.000 I know exactly what's gonna happen if 2.30 goes.

00:36:52.000 I am gonna make 10 times as much money.

00:36:53.000 It's gonna be great for me.

00:36:54.000 And it's gonna be bad for humanity and liberty and freedom.

00:36:58.000 But if people want it, if Trump's saying it and Trump supporters are for it, well, okay, I guess I'll just sit back and take the extra money.

00:37:04.000 Let me just say what's going to happen.

00:37:06.000 I'm not going to be banned if 230 goes.

00:37:09.000 I'm going to be one of their preferred verified accounts or whatever.

00:37:13.000 They like the milk toast, you know, harmless Tim Pool or whatever.

00:37:16.000 He's just edgy enough, but not edgy enough to get smears and cause any trouble because I'm not far enough in either direction.

00:37:23.000 So it works for them that people watch these shows and that they're controversial a little They actually monetized our Alex Jones episode.

00:37:30.000 So they're like, this is okay, we're okay with this.

00:37:33.000 So if you get rid of Section 230, YouTube's gonna go, we got it baby, we finally got what we needed.

00:37:37.000 The excuse to ban all these people without causing controversy, and we can blame Trump for it, it's great!

00:37:43.000 So who are we keeping?

00:37:44.000 We're gonna pick 500 channels to keep.

00:37:47.000 YouTube is now officially Netflix, this is fantastic.

00:37:49.000 Our bandwidth costs are gonna drop, but our audience stays the same.

00:37:53.000 If you get rid of Section 230 and YouTube bans all of the non-preferred accounts, they'd probably make me sign a contract or something about liability and whatever.

00:38:01.000 Then what you're left with is, YouTube still gets the billion views or whatever per month, whatever the number is, probably more than that, probably a hundred billion or something.

00:38:09.000 They keep that.

00:38:10.000 It'll go down a little bit because some channels and some creators will be gone and they'll go to other platforms.

00:38:15.000 But people will still go to YouTube out of habit.

00:38:17.000 And now there's only a small handful of channels to recommend.

00:38:20.000 So guess what?

00:38:21.000 The existing channels are going to go through the roof.

00:38:23.000 But what platform?

00:38:24.000 Because that platform could get taken down too, I think.

00:38:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:38:27.000 Well, let me tell you this.

00:38:28.000 Everyone's saying Rumble right now.

00:38:30.000 Like, oh, go to Rumble, go to Rumble. 0.54

00:38:32.000 Okay, just like any of these other platforms, I'm just gonna start counting the days until NBC, the Wall Street Journal, New York Times publish a story about, you know, the neo-Nazi website rumble and all this other garbage.

00:38:42.000 Get thrown in that box.

00:38:43.000 And then what happens is, all they need as an excuse is one article that says it, and then you'll get Google going like, we will no longer, you know, serve, you know, the DNS or whatever.

00:38:53.000 What is that, anti-defamation?

00:38:55.000 They go hard on people for that stuff.

00:38:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:58.000 Google seized the DNS.

00:38:59.000 I think it was the Daily Stormer.

00:39:01.000 Like, literally just seized their domain.

00:39:03.000 So you couldn't go to it.

00:39:04.000 It was crazy.

00:39:05.000 Like, that's authoritarian beyond recognition.

00:39:08.000 I'm just obviously spitballing here.

00:39:10.000 I could be completely wrong.

00:39:11.000 But let's just say you have a billion watch minutes going to YouTube every day to watch independent creators.

00:39:18.000 And that's what you want to watch.

00:39:19.000 As we were saying before, whenever CNN's recommended, just spammed with dislikes.

00:39:23.000 I'm sure their retention time's dirt low as well.

00:39:26.000 But obviously they want to work to kind of replace cable and TV.

00:39:29.000 That's why they have YouTube TV, they tried YouTube Premium, and they tried original shows.

00:39:33.000 All those original shows have been a major flop, even the influencer ones.

00:39:36.000 Which ones did good?

00:39:38.000 Cobra Kai.

00:39:38.000 Well, that was awesome.

00:39:39.000 It did good because it was on Netflix.

00:39:41.000 Well, no, no, it did really well on YouTube.

00:39:43.000 And then they sold it to Netflix.

00:39:44.000 Yeah, that was the only one that people watched.

00:39:47.000 I don't know what the numbers were on that, if it's even comparable to how much it got on Netflix.

00:39:52.000 I never watched it on YouTube.

00:39:53.000 I watched it on Netflix and it was great.

00:39:54.000 YouTube works on meritocracy.

00:39:57.000 So it's a combination of algorithmic promotion for videos that do well and the hands-off approach from YouTube.

00:40:04.000 When YouTube tried to do originals, yeah, it mostly did not work. 0.89

00:40:07.000 A lot of the shows are just trash.

00:40:09.000 So what they do is, what works for them, let people make content and then when they identify content that's doing well and is brand safe and advertiser friendly, they promote it in the algorithm. 0.81

00:40:18.000 But I'll tell you this.

00:40:20.000 How many, let me ask you, what do you think the average amount of recommended views to subscriber views?

00:40:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:40:30.000 I'll just say it because it's probably hard to make an analogy or question out of it.

00:40:35.000 The amount of people who watch this content who aren't subscribed.

00:40:40.000 I'm not subscribed to you.

00:40:41.000 I watch you every day.

00:40:42.000 Right.

00:40:42.000 I have 10 accounts.

00:40:43.000 That's why I don't know what account I'm on.

00:40:45.000 I just subscribe with all of them.

00:40:46.000 Yeah.

00:40:47.000 No, no.

00:40:47.000 Maybe not.

00:40:48.000 Because you don't want to inflate the subscriber count.

00:40:49.000 Because then if the view to subscribers is ratioed.

00:40:52.000 Then they punish you for it.

00:40:53.000 So here's what happens.

00:40:54.000 It's like, depending on the video, it could be between 60 and 70% not subscribed.

00:41:00.000 That means YouTube's recommending the video.

00:41:03.000 So you go to YouTube.com, and then my video appears, and you click it and you watch it, and YouTube keeps serving it to people, because subscriber counts really don't matter anymore.

00:41:11.000 I mean, we do this show, we have almost 900,000 subs on this channel, and we're averaging like half a million per podcast episode.

00:41:20.000 So that means like, More than, you know, it's like 60% of the audience watches, you know, every day or whatever.

00:41:27.000 That's great.

00:41:28.000 Or you can say that most people watch, you know, a couple times a week.

00:41:31.000 And the way the algorithm works to my understanding is, because I know people who have zero growth on YouTube, but they'll have a million subs and every video they post gets a quarter million, half a million views, but they don't have any growth because what YouTube sees, okay, this piece, it's mostly vlog content.

00:41:48.000 This vlog is getting very high retention time with its subscriber base.

00:41:53.000 So they'll push it out to more of the subscribers and then they do kind of testing and the algorithm for some like lookalike audiences and then they check the retention time from those algorithmic viewers and then usually those algorithmic viewers don't come back good because it's the fans that want that content and they pull it back and it doesn't get the expanded growth but it has a high percentage of watch time from subscribers.

00:42:14.000 My page is the complete opposite, my prank page.

00:42:17.000 Where I'll get like 10% of my subs watching and then like randomly like 2-3 months later I'll have a video pop off with like 5 million views.

00:42:25.000 Yeah.

00:42:26.000 Because it's just like the algorithm, since it's all evergreen, the algorithm will be like, okay well this content does good with random people clicking on it.

00:42:33.000 Well it'll find that audience, it'll fall into the hole.

00:42:35.000 So here's what I'm saying.

00:42:37.000 If you get rid of the independent creators, they're not going to leave YouTube.

00:42:41.000 Most views come from people who are told what to watch.

00:42:45.000 No joke.

00:42:46.000 Now, it's a mix between the interests of the individual and what YouTube recommends.

00:42:50.000 If there's somebody who likes watching videos titled, Democrats are awful, and they send a video saying Democrats are great, they're going to be like, I ain't clicking that.

00:42:58.000 And so it's ignored.

00:43:00.000 So there's a balance there.

00:43:01.000 YouTube would probably lose a decent amount of their users if they banned everybody, and if Section 230 got repealed, but most of the people would probably stay.

00:43:11.000 Then the activists would just target other social networks and call them racist.

00:43:14.000 Yeah, there are two types of people that use YouTube.

00:43:16.000 Maybe three.

00:43:17.000 There's one, the group of people that want to see independent creators and the group that just go to YouTube to just probably don't even have accounts that are just like, Oh, I'm going to just Google this, look it up.

00:43:26.000 Or I remember watching this funny viral video.

00:43:28.000 Let me look it up and show my friends.

00:43:30.000 Or they're just typing in funny cats, you know, the casual users, maybe they're going on it to see the news.

00:43:36.000 Um, they're like less engaged, but those types of people, YouTube is the go-to.

00:43:41.000 So you, you, you, you give us section two 30 and I'll be, I'll be doing great.

00:43:45.000 Yeah.

00:43:46.000 Well, in the short term.

00:43:47.000 But I mean, I don't think any of us will be doing... Well, I don't know, actually.

00:43:49.000 Bro, you know how much money... You know how much money, like, Sean Hannity gets?

00:43:54.000 And, like, what his viewership is?

00:43:55.000 From his YouTube stuff?

00:43:56.000 So, his viewership, I think, was at, like, you know, $4 or $5 million a night at its peak, and then people abandoned Fox.

00:44:03.000 But even without him getting $4 or $5 million a night, and then you include YouTube, when... So, I recently cut down the amount of segments I was producing, but I was getting, like, $3, $3.5 million a day.

00:44:12.000 Sean Hannity was getting, you know, $4 or $5 million.

00:44:16.000 The problem is you would be like the golden child, and your ad revenue would go up, but you'd be stuck under their terms of service still, which could get more strict.

00:44:25.000 The difference between, I guess, traditional media hosts and new media hosts is in the traditional media, the ad rates pay way higher.

00:44:32.000 That's what YouTube wants, though.

00:44:33.000 Yeah, and they play way more ads, mainly because there's no skipping around, there's no jump.

00:44:38.000 I guess you could change channels, but if you're watching Sun Hannity and Yeah, and you get like five, six commercials.

00:44:44.000 Exactly.

00:44:45.000 Minutes go by.

00:44:50.000 Yeah, maybe we need our own network.

00:44:52.000 Each individual has their own network where they can post all their videos.

00:44:56.000 So you don't have to worry about 230 of anyone else's content.

00:44:59.000 And then you can respond other content through like an RSS where you can see if they responded to one of yours.

00:45:04.000 I don't know if you could watch your videos on my network because that might make me... It's kind of like what Roku is doing.

00:45:11.000 So I just signed with a company and they're like, hey, we want to put your prank content into its own channel on the Roku devices.

00:45:18.000 I'm like, yeah, just go ahead and do it.

00:45:20.000 Cool.

00:45:21.000 Is Roku responsible for your content under 230?

00:45:22.000 and they link it with like an RSS feed.

00:45:24.000 So whenever I post, it automatically gets posted into that.

00:45:27.000 Is Roku responsible for your content under 230?

00:45:30.000 I wouldn't know about any of that.

00:45:32.000 That's interesting.

00:45:33.000 If they weren't, that'd be really cool.

00:45:34.000 If just some tech.

00:45:35.000 It's cool because it comes off like an actual shot.

00:45:37.000 I was telling you to do it because people watch that stuff on the TV.

00:45:41.000 Retention time's higher, the ad rate CPM is higher.

00:45:44.000 I'm sure tons of you viewerships would love to watch your podcast and just click it on the TV.

00:45:48.000 You know man, I could do a million things to make my business run better.

00:45:52.000 We don't do any ad reads.

00:45:54.000 You know, like people listen to this podcast and we have no ad reads at all.

00:45:57.000 Like for, for, for instance, we don't talk about super male vitality.

00:46:01.000 Yeah.

00:46:02.000 Get a kickback.

00:46:05.000 Give me some money.

00:46:05.000 Cause we mentioned your, how many did you sell Alex?

00:46:09.000 We want to cut numbers.

00:46:11.000 No, but like almost every single podcast, they open the show with some kind of ad.

00:46:13.000 So I'm talking to people about doing some kind of ads because I'm like, we're not being particularly efficient with how we do things.

00:46:18.000 We kind of just turn the cameras on and just hang out.

00:46:20.000 You know, we probably do a lot better job.

00:46:22.000 But, you know, man, times are getting crazy.

00:46:26.000 It's Christmas.

00:46:27.000 We're chillin'.

00:46:28.000 I'm into the Roku.

00:46:29.000 So this Roku thing sounds pretty promising.

00:46:32.000 I feel like that's gonna be the new wave of next year.

00:46:35.000 You're gonna see a lot of creators.

00:46:36.000 So the earlier you get on it.

00:46:37.000 Now that I'm saying it on such a big show, I bet every creator watching is like, how do I sign up?

00:46:44.000 People need to realize You know, I think there's a lot of people who look for quick gimmicks to try and get big quick.

00:46:49.000 They look at Vine.

00:46:50.000 For those who aren't familiar with Vine, man, how many people remember what Vine was?

00:46:53.000 Oh yeah, they were huge.

00:46:55.000 You have a Vine tattoo?

00:46:56.000 Do you regret getting it?

00:46:58.000 Were you like a huge Vine star?

00:47:01.000 Did you start on Vine?

00:47:03.000 Yeah, that's how I got my big break.

00:47:05.000 Look at that!

00:47:05.000 Vine getting bashed.

00:47:07.000 I can't zoom in.

00:47:09.000 Oh, when they destroyed it?

00:47:10.000 I did a series called It's Bashin' Time.

00:47:13.000 You got started on Vine, huh?

00:47:15.000 Yeah, that's how I got my big break.

00:47:18.000 Then I got Facebook and YouTube.

00:47:21.000 Hey, if any YouTube reps are watching, re-monetize my pages or something.

00:47:25.000 Yeah, do it.

00:47:26.000 What happens if they change their logo and then you got like, what's that company?

00:47:29.000 It's like YouTube.

00:47:30.000 Oh, that's it.

00:47:31.000 It's like imagine getting- Remember YouTube?

00:47:32.000 I was gonna get the Instagram one and then like, I didn't end up getting it.

00:47:35.000 And then like, yeah, then like two weeks later they did a new Instagram logo.

00:47:38.000 So you were big on YouTube and then you started doing Vine.

00:47:41.000 You were huge on YouTube in like 2010, right?

00:47:43.000 11 or something?

00:47:44.000 I did YouTube since I was a kid.

00:47:46.000 Never got any views.

00:47:48.000 You know, hundreds, maybe a thousand views if I was lucky.

00:47:51.000 Then I took like a two-year hiatus because I was like, eh, this is not working out.

00:47:56.000 This is not going to be a career.

00:47:57.000 Let me go to school. 0.93

00:47:58.000 Went to college for like a year, failed everything, but during that time, I downloaded Vine, because an ex-girlfriend of mine made me download it, because she was like recording videos of me, and I'm like, this is such a stupid app, six seconds, like how can you? 0.96

00:48:11.000 Yeah.

00:48:12.000 Downloaded it, ended up making a bunch of videos, ended up going viral, got, you know, a million followers on there.

00:48:17.000 Wow. 0.98

00:48:17.000 I'm like, damn, Vine's gonna go under. 0.98

00:48:20.000 I'm like, I saw how the market was going, it's all about like retention time, and this must have been like 2011 or whatever. 0.96

00:48:27.000 And then I started moving all my audience to YouTube, stopped posting on Vine, and then a year later, Vine went out of business.

00:48:32.000 How could you tell Vine was going?

00:48:33.000 Well, Vine got bought by Twitter, and then they were basically like, you know, Periscope's gone, right?

00:48:39.000 Oh.

00:48:39.000 Oh, really?

00:48:40.000 Yeah, Periscope's gone.

00:48:41.000 That just went on?

00:48:41.000 When?

00:48:42.000 Wow.

00:48:43.000 I saw something about it.

00:48:43.000 I don't know exactly what's going on.

00:48:45.000 Geez, too much bandwidth cost?

00:48:46.000 Well, no, because what Twitter does is they buy a company, and then once people are used to using it on the Twitter app, they axe the other company.

00:48:53.000 They just melt them into Twitter?

00:48:54.000 They don't want the competition.

00:48:55.000 What?

00:48:56.000 Yeah, buy and destroy.

00:48:57.000 That's called hostile takeover, isn't it?

00:48:59.000 Vine was unique because it was the first, like, app to have video format on.

00:49:03.000 And then, you know, Instagram came out with it.

00:49:04.000 Yeah, because Instagram was just photos.

00:49:06.000 Since the bandwidth on phones also started to increase, you know, YouTube became more accessible on the apps, you know.

00:49:12.000 So it's just, you know, Vine was like the first of its time and just never innovated past that point.

00:49:18.000 And they didn't, did they have ads?

00:49:19.000 Got bought by Twitter and then blown up.

00:49:20.000 Yeah, that was the biggest mistake.

00:49:21.000 They never got ads.

00:49:22.000 They sold the company instead.

00:49:24.000 Yeah I was hearing stories that they were going to put an ad program in place but then like a bunch of influencers were like spreading the word and then everybody wanted a piece of the cut and then they just can't.

00:49:34.000 Hyperinflated their value and sold probably a hundred thousand times.

00:49:38.000 I think influencer value is it's tough because I think influencer value is overrated but at the same time it is that power.

00:49:48.000 Yeah, money can't buy the value of communication.

00:49:51.000 The thing is, like, I use Ninja, for example.

00:49:53.000 What's Ninja?

00:49:53.000 Ninja the streamer.

00:49:55.000 Oh, Ninja the guy.

00:49:55.000 Yeah.

00:49:56.000 He was the biggest Twitch streamer.

00:49:59.000 He was, you know, favored, so they put him on.

00:50:01.000 But for Fortnite, right?

00:50:02.000 Yeah, for Fortnite.

00:50:03.000 On all the talk shows.

00:50:04.000 Remember when he did the dance on New Year's and no one knew who he was?

00:50:06.000 Yeah.

00:50:07.000 It was cringey.

00:50:07.000 Maybe that's why you guys might know him.

00:50:09.000 He did the floss dance in Times Square in New York.

00:50:13.000 Nobody there knew who he was.

00:50:14.000 I think they might've knew who he was.

00:50:15.000 No, come on, man.

00:50:16.000 His audience is 12-year-olds.

00:50:18.000 That's true.

00:50:19.000 I have a friend who's like, he was in a band that was like decently famous and toured around.

00:50:25.000 And when I met him, I was at this venue for like, you know, it's a big venue in Chicago called the Metro.

00:50:31.000 Some band was playing, everyone there was like in their 20s and 30s.

00:50:34.000 And I saw him and I was like, whoa, dude, aren't you so-and-so?

00:50:36.000 And he's like, yeah.

00:50:37.000 I was like, wow, man, nice to meet you.

00:50:38.000 I'm a fan.

00:50:39.000 He's like, cool, man.

00:50:39.000 And then I was like, anybody here recognize you?

00:50:41.000 And he goes, how old is everybody here?

00:50:42.000 Are they over 18?

00:50:43.000 No, probably not.

00:50:44.000 And I laughed and I was like, what did he say about me?

00:50:46.000 Yeah.

00:50:47.000 But yeah, like his audience wasn't there, you know?

00:50:48.000 Yeah, back to what I was saying about Ninja is Mixer bought him for like tens of millions of dollars, whatever they paid him.

00:50:54.000 I think some people were saying it was close to a hundred million.

00:50:56.000 And that's Microsoft, right?

00:50:57.000 Yeah, Microsoft bought Mixer, Mixer bought Ninja, then they started getting other influencers too.

00:51:01.000 But they thought, you know, Ninja, the biggest Twitch streamer, we're going to get him on Mixer and that's going to help out Mixer.

00:51:06.000 His viewership went from hundreds of thousands of live viewers to like a thousand, two thousand.

00:51:11.000 Wow.

00:51:12.000 Yeah.

00:51:12.000 Not at first.

00:51:13.000 When he first went on, it was big numbers.

00:51:15.000 And then it just died off.

00:51:17.000 Bro.

00:51:17.000 Joe Rogan.

00:51:19.000 Many influencers are only as strong as the platform they're on.

00:51:22.000 Yeah, dude.

00:51:23.000 And I saw that same exact thing happen with Joe Rogan.

00:51:26.000 I listen to Joe Rogan, but only on YouTube.

00:51:28.000 I'll watch his viral clips.

00:51:29.000 I'll listen to it here and there.

00:51:30.000 Maybe then I'll go over to a full show, but it's always on YouTube.

00:51:33.000 I haven't been to Spotify yet.

00:51:34.000 It's kind of like I don't want to.

00:51:37.000 I'm just like angry that he went to Spotify still.

00:51:39.000 I got no beef.

00:51:40.000 Hey, good for him.

00:51:41.000 I mean, I would take the bag too.

00:51:43.000 I mean, yeah, it's a lot of money.

00:51:44.000 I wonder, we were talking about before, it's almost like a retirement, you know, not to be disrespectful because I know Joey's a friend, but you know, when someone offers that much money, I'm sure Joey, he's a good businessman.

00:51:55.000 He knows exactly.

00:51:57.000 But he probably knew exactly what it meant by going exclusive with Spotify.

00:52:00.000 And there was a big backlash where people were commenting.

00:52:03.000 So his main YouTube channel now has become a clip channel.

00:52:07.000 I guess a clip channel is nothing now, I have no idea.

00:52:09.000 That's million, that's 10 million subscribers.

00:52:11.000 And he recently got the Diamond Award on YouTube.

00:52:13.000 All those subscribers subscribed to watch the long form show, not the clips.

00:52:18.000 And so now, there's comments of people who are like, I don't even watch anymore.

00:52:21.000 But here's what you gotta realize too, by going to Spotify, he lost the comment section.

00:52:25.000 So people were having conversations.

00:52:27.000 That's gone.

00:52:28.000 And the discoverability on YouTube was what's really driving the traffic.

00:52:32.000 I mean, Spotify is its own platform, but it's not something really people go there to discover stuff.

00:52:37.000 But if you, but the good news is for him now is that, you know, you go open up Spotify podcasts and Joe Rogan Experience is right there.

00:52:43.000 You're paying the guy a hundred million dollars.

00:52:45.000 And the devs are pretty much at his beck and call.

00:52:47.000 He wants them to build a comment section.

00:52:49.000 But he loses iTunes.

00:52:50.000 So he's not even on, you open up iTunes, gone.

00:52:53.000 Exclusive contracts are freaky.

00:52:55.000 His audience size, like, potential has literally been limited by like, what, one-tenth of the size.

00:53:00.000 This is why people keep saying, like, Tim, why aren't you on Rumble or whatever?

00:53:03.000 There's two reasons.

00:53:04.000 Two reasons.

00:53:04.000 The first is that someone already got the username Timcast, and I'm not gonna be bothered.

00:53:08.000 Maybe they'll give it to you.

00:53:09.000 I'm not gonna ask him.

00:53:10.000 Well, now I guess I just said it on the show.

00:53:12.000 Yeah, they'll email you.

00:53:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:53:13.000 Please, Tim, please come.

00:53:15.000 I have so many companies, like every day we get like 10 people being like, you know, 10 different companies.

00:53:21.000 We started a new social media company, sign up, we reserve your name.

00:53:24.000 I'm like, dude, I keep telling everybody, man, YouTube is a money pit that loses money.

00:53:30.000 Like Uber, this is what Silicon Valley does to destroy this country and business in this country.

00:53:35.000 Uber loses money like crazy.

00:53:37.000 Like, dude, Uber loses money.

00:53:40.000 But here's the plan.

00:53:41.000 You subsidize the cost through investors until you strangle out all the competition, undercutting local cabs.

00:53:49.000 Cab drivers go nuts.

00:53:50.000 There were, like, cab driver riots in France.

00:53:52.000 I went to, I was in New York a couple years ago and there were cab drivers protesting outside of City Hall saying that Uber destroyed their business and in order to drive a cab in New York you need like a cab token and they cost like a million bucks.

00:54:04.000 It's like you gotta pay it off with a loan.

00:54:06.000 And so they were like, we were told Uber would only be allowed to drive so many cars.

00:54:09.000 So we buy these things, and then once they brought in 30,000 Uber cars allowing them, then all of a sudden these tokens are worthless and no one drives in our cars anymore.

00:54:17.000 So what happens is, cabs cost more money.

00:54:19.000 That's right, you know why?

00:54:20.000 Because you gotta pay for everything, the gas, the maintenance repair, and the person's wage.

00:54:25.000 With Uber, same thing applies, but it's cheaper because they eat the cost, take a huge loss.

00:54:31.000 YouTube does that.

00:54:32.000 YouTube sinks, money's on fire.

00:54:35.000 Netflix does that too.

00:54:36.000 They lose money like crazy.

00:54:38.000 But they make money off of investors.

00:54:41.000 They take money from investors or through subsidies.

00:54:43.000 So, YouTube is subsidized by the parent companies.

00:54:46.000 The parent companies make sure YouTube functions.

00:54:49.000 And then, so the cost is ridiculous.

00:54:52.000 But this makes it so that no one goes anywhere else.

00:54:55.000 And all they have to do now is wait until everything withers and is strangled.

00:54:59.000 I'll tell you, it's simple this.

00:55:01.000 It's simple as principle, really.

00:55:03.000 You got a mom-and-pop cafe.

00:55:05.000 This was happening in Seattle.

00:55:06.000 At least this was a story as I was told when I lived in Seattle a long time ago.

00:55:09.000 This was like 14 years ago.

00:55:11.000 You'd have a mom-and-pop local family small business cafe.

00:55:14.000 One day, a Starbucks would open next door, and it would offer discounts, super cheap drinks, and then people would- it would split their business.

00:55:24.000 Because there are some people who are big fans of the local cafe.

00:55:26.000 It's the best cafe you gotta go to.

00:55:27.000 They make a great French roast.

00:55:28.000 But then there are a lot of people who are just like, I just want a coffee.

00:55:31.000 Starbucks, they got milkshakes or whatever, you know?

00:55:33.000 Yeah, and so they see the Starbucks sign, and they know it's coffee, and they see the mom-and-pop's, you know, whiz-bang cafe, and they're like, I don't know what that is.

00:55:39.000 You know what?

00:55:40.000 There's a difference between, I would say, I agree with you, but I think there is a difference between Starbucks and Uber.

00:55:45.000 Uber kind of innovated an industry.

00:55:47.000 Starbucks is just like a big corporation that goes for better prices.

00:55:50.000 Right, right, right.

00:55:51.000 But I just mean the principle.

00:55:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:53.000 People were telling me that in Seattle they were doing this.

00:55:54.000 I just want to make sure that's clear.

00:55:55.000 It's like what I was told.

00:55:55.000 I don't know if it's true.

00:55:57.000 But they would say like Starbucks would open up right across the street, then the small business would not be able to compete with Starbucks.

00:56:04.000 But you got, bro, in San Francisco, just off of Market Street, I can't remember exactly what street this is, there's like three Starbucks Three Starbucks locations.

00:56:15.000 In Hollywood, there's four of them a mile away.

00:56:18.000 I went, not even within a mile, no.

00:56:19.000 In one point, they're right across the street from each other.

00:56:22.000 So I was walking down the street looking for a Starbucks.

00:56:24.000 I pull up on my phone and it's like two dots appear on my Google Maps or whatever.

00:56:28.000 And I'm like, what?

00:56:29.000 Which one?

00:56:30.000 What?

00:56:30.000 There's two of them.

00:56:31.000 And so I walk and I look.

00:56:31.000 I'm like, oh, there's Starbucks.

00:56:33.000 And then I walk inside.

00:56:34.000 I grab, you know, like a water or whatever.

00:56:36.000 And I grab like a thing of Madeline's or some cookies, whatever they sell at Starbucks.

00:56:38.000 And when I'm waiting in line, I look across the street and I see a Starbucks logo on the other side of the street.

00:56:42.000 And I was like, No.

00:56:44.000 It's true.

00:56:44.000 Do it.

00:56:45.000 I use that similar analogy when I'm talking to people who like support minimum wage increases.

00:56:50.000 And I brought up to one guy, I'm like, hey, I'm like, what do you think about restaurant owners paying their employees $15 an hour?

00:56:56.000 He's like, oh, you mean a livable wage?

00:56:58.000 I'm like, one, a livable wage is different depending on where you are and who you are.

00:57:01.000 Right.

00:57:02.000 But I'm like, I'm like, you want to increase minimum wage.

00:57:05.000 I'm like, do you not understand like the overhead that goes into running?

00:57:09.000 I used a pizzeria as analogy.

00:57:11.000 You increase minimum wage, now that cashier needs to earn money. 0.59

00:57:14.000 The phone girl needs to earn more money. 1.00

00:57:15.000 Now it costs more money for raw materials.

00:57:17.000 Now your pizza prices go up.

00:57:19.000 And people get pissed off.

00:57:20.000 Now you're selling more expensive pizzas because the minimum wage increased.

00:57:23.000 Or they start skimping on materials.

00:57:25.000 They start skimping.

00:57:26.000 The quality goes down.

00:57:27.000 Bromate.

00:57:27.000 Potassium bromate in their bread.

00:57:29.000 But then a Domino's opens up across it.

00:57:31.000 This wouldn't fly in New York, or at least not in Staten Island.

00:57:34.000 But anywhere else, a Pizza Hut or a Domino's opens up across the street, and they can give you a pizza for one-tenth the price, and they can afford to pay their employees $15 an hour, because they have that massive infrastructure to get you cheap prices, also if they subsidize it with shareholders.

00:57:50.000 So I'm like, so you want $15 an hour?

00:57:52.000 That's just gonna destroy small businesses. 1.00

00:57:55.000 And then you're gonna have to go work for a corporation, and now you're stuck making $15 an hour for the rest of your life because you're working for Pizza Hut.

00:58:01.000 The idea that you can artificially inflate the wages for people is just wrong, man.

00:58:05.000 I talked to... I told this story before.

00:58:07.000 I was talking to an accountant who was a... He's a Democrat guy.

00:58:11.000 He's like, you know, urban Democrat, not super political, but, you know, he votes Dem.

00:58:15.000 And I asked him about it because New Jersey was passing a wage increase and he said, oh, I lost 30% of my clients already.

00:58:21.000 Wow.

00:58:21.000 They just went... They shut their businesses down overnight.

00:58:23.000 Yeah.

00:58:24.000 Because what you gotta realize... He's still a Democrat?

00:58:26.000 He did?

00:58:27.000 Does he still vote Democrat?

00:58:28.000 Oh no, no, no, no, dude.

00:58:29.000 And that's why I'm like, it's so crazy that I lived in a blue area,

00:58:33.000 everybody was Democrat, and then within a couple of years, they were all Trump supporters.

00:58:37.000 Our whole lives we were riding the bubble of the boomers.

00:58:42.000 Is that what it was?

00:58:42.000 Boomers?

00:58:43.000 They were just printing money in the white picket fence to get a house.

00:58:46.000 The American dream was just a big bubble.

00:58:48.000 They just kept printing more and more and more money.

00:58:50.000 Now there's $27 trillion of it.

00:58:52.000 That's not the issue.

00:58:52.000 Our whole lives we were riding that bubble.

00:58:54.000 We didn't realize it.

00:58:54.000 There's a lot of different issues as to why the boomers retain so much wealth and young people don't.

00:58:59.000 That oil money.

00:59:00.000 OPEC, man.

00:59:00.000 The CIA in 1945.

00:59:01.000 I think it has to do with boomers being bad parents. 1.00

00:59:04.000 I think it has to do with boomers being some of the worst. 1.00

00:59:07.000 Ignorant for sure. 0.99

00:59:08.000 They didn't realize they were riding that bubble too, I don't think. 0.99

00:59:10.000 It's not about riding a bubble.

00:59:11.000 The American military bubble.

00:59:13.000 Yeah, so World War II, we decimated the industries of our, you know, rival foreign countries.

00:59:18.000 And then, that's annoying.

00:59:19.000 And then you have, you know, American industry picks up the slack, and our factories were fine, nobody came here.

00:59:25.000 There's a lot of reasons why things were doing well, and there's a lot of arguments about it, but there's a lot to be said.

00:59:31.000 Everybody wants to blame Ronald Reagan for trickle-down economics as to why it happened, but they overlook the fact that Republicans were, and this is true, the fact that the Republicans wanted to start importing a lot of cheap labor.

00:59:41.000 and outsourcing to get cheap labor.

00:59:43.000 If you were in a factory, you know, it's like the 70s and 80s,

00:59:47.000 you're like, man, why do I gotta pay, you know, four bucks an hour, five bucks an hour to this employee

00:59:51.000 when I can have this stuff produced in Mexico for dirt and then shipped up here?

00:59:56.000 And so that's where the trend comes in.

00:59:58.000 The jobs get destroyed, and that's ultimately what leads us to Trump.

01:00:01.000 I think the reason I brought up the bubble that we're in is because

01:00:04.000 my whole life I thought, if you need to raise the minimum wage, raise the minimum wage.

01:00:07.000 Print, make the short-term value, and then later we can recoup the loss as a short-term investment, but I didn't realize that it was like a Ponzi scheme.

01:00:15.000 It's so easy to explain why minimum wage increases do not work.

01:00:18.000 What you need is the value of time to go up, and how you do that is very complicated.

01:00:24.000 But it's really easy to explain to somebody.

01:00:27.000 If I'm growing apples, and I gotta hire someone at 10 bucks an hour to pick the apples, and he can pick 10 apples per hour, just these are ridiculous numbers, he can obviously pick more than that, then the cost of an apple has to be over a dollar.

01:00:38.000 Because then I gotta pay for overhead, the machinery, the planting.

01:00:41.000 So an apple costs two bucks.

01:00:43.000 Well, now you double the guy's wage, right?

01:00:45.000 Let's say you give him 20 bucks an hour now.

01:00:47.000 Because why not?

01:00:47.000 Rashida Tlaib was already saying, you know, 15's not enough, 20 bucks.

01:00:51.000 Okay, so now each apple has to cost at least two dollars.

01:00:54.000 Now, all of a sudden, apples go up in price.

01:00:55.000 But guess what?

01:00:56.000 The people who pick the apples also need to eat.

01:00:59.000 So now, I'm giving them 20 bucks an hour, and then they're going to the supermarket and going, I can't even buy apples anymore because the price just doubled.

01:01:05.000 So you're not giving them buying power.

01:01:08.000 Increasing the minimum wage does not give anyone buying power.

01:01:12.000 It's like a short-term buying power.

01:01:13.000 No, it's a trick to make them think.

01:01:15.000 Well, it's a short-term.

01:01:16.000 As the inflation catches up, it takes like eight months.

01:01:18.000 It destroys the savings of retirees Because now, you still can't buy the apple, because you have the same buying power, but now everybody who's saved can only buy half the apples they originally could have bought.

01:01:32.000 It does so much.

01:01:33.000 One, it helps out the bigger business.

01:01:35.000 It hurts the little guy.

01:01:36.000 It causes inflation.

01:01:38.000 It allows the government to tax you more as well.

01:01:41.000 And also, it spits in the face of the people who maybe are trying to work their way up at Walmart.

01:01:45.000 You know, maybe, hey, I put in 10 years at Walmart, I want to work my way up.

01:01:48.000 You started at $5 an hour, now you're making $20.

01:01:51.000 I gotta tell you what I'm really sick of. 1.00

01:01:54.000 I am sick of the fact that you are left-wing or right-wing based on whether you are stupid. 0.99

01:02:00.000 And so when I go to a Democrat accountant and he tells me, look what happened on paper to all of these businesses when they raised minimum wage, the buying power did not go up. 0.99

01:02:11.000 It stayed the same and it destroyed these small businesses that didn't have the savings to maintain this.

01:02:17.000 And then everyone says, because I'm not in favor of minimum wage, it's a right-wing position. 1.00

01:02:21.000 So what, the left is stupid? 0.99

01:02:22.000 It's just an incomplete concept to raise the wage. 1.00

01:02:25.000 You need to raise, like, savings account interest as well, I think, if you're going to do something like that.

01:02:29.000 So the banks take a hit, and the consumer can maintain buying power.

01:02:33.000 But interest, that's not going to do anything for somebody who makes $10 an hour.

01:02:36.000 They don't have a savings to see any increase in their interest.

01:02:38.000 Ideally, it would help them grow a savings account.

01:02:40.000 Not only does it hurt business-wise, inflation-wise, all that stuff, It also hurts the culture because if you had a lower minimum wage, you know, someone's first job at the age of 13, 14, his $5 an hour worked the cashier.

01:02:54.000 I was making $4.25, I think.

01:02:56.000 I've been working.

01:02:56.000 I worked my first job when I was like 13, 14 years old for like $5 an hour.

01:03:00.000 And you know, that's a growing experience.

01:03:02.000 Everybody should have that experience.

01:03:04.000 Now, what kid is going to get a job when the minimum wage is $15 an hour?

01:03:09.000 You're going to want to hire the best of the best to make up for that price.

01:03:13.000 And the left always uses this argument.

01:03:14.000 Oh, you go to In-N-Out, they pay their employees above minimum wage, and look how good the service is versus McDonald's.

01:03:21.000 It's like, no, they're not doing better because they're getting a higher wage.

01:03:24.000 They're doing better because they're literally just picking the best of the best fast food workers.

01:03:28.000 And that's why they're getting paid more because they're the best of the best.

01:03:31.000 And because McDonald's pays less, they're less concerned.

01:03:35.000 Right.

01:03:36.000 Because the good, the good, you know, burger employees and cashiers are going to be like, I'm going to work for In-N-Out.

01:03:40.000 Yeah.

01:03:40.000 I don't want to work for McDonald's.

01:03:42.000 So the minimum wage really pinned people like me when I worked in the hospital because I was a tech and I went to school for it.

01:03:48.000 It didn't take very long, but I was making more than the minimum wage because I had a little bit of extra education.

01:03:53.000 So one of the things I found was when my state was raising the minimum wage was that my wage would go up as well a little bit at a time along kind of the same lines, and I wouldn't be able to buy or do anything more.

01:04:05.000 It made absolutely no difference.

01:04:06.000 Everything, the price of everything stayed exactly the same.

01:04:08.000 Why are we doing this?

01:04:10.000 There's one benefit.

01:04:11.000 Imports.

01:04:12.000 And so that's why you see people like Joe Biden tie multiple policies together with the left.

01:04:18.000 Free trade agreements, increased minimum wage, higher corporate taxes, drive the industry to foreign countries, give everybody in the U.S.

01:04:27.000 an increased wage, but not the slave labor in China.

01:04:31.000 So the people in China who are living under a communist boot, who live in squalor to such a degree that they've walked off of the Foxconn buildings in mass suicide incidents, and the Foxconn lab had to put up nets to catch people to stop them from killing themselves, they don't get a wage increase.

01:04:46.000 So what happens with a minimum wage increase that helps Americans is that if you're making $10 an hour, And then they increase your wage to 15.

01:04:53.000 Congratulations.

01:04:55.000 You can now buy.

01:04:56.000 It's now easier for you.

01:04:58.000 Your buying power, in terms of import goods, has gone up.

01:05:01.000 But you need to maintain your slaves.

01:05:03.000 That's the only way.

01:05:04.000 It's a slave economy. 0.99

01:05:05.000 Yeah, we live in a slave economy.

01:05:06.000 China has to maintain the slavery. 0.99

01:05:08.000 Yay, Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves, but there's a lot more slaves that were... Oh, there's literal... 0.62

01:05:12.000 Dude, what the heck?

01:05:13.000 I mean, listen, first of all, slavery is never there's more slaves alive today than there's 0.89

01:05:17.000 ever been.

01:05:18.000 What the heck?

01:05:19.000 And it's it's you know, the Obama's involvement in Libya resulted in the return of the North 0.74

01:05:24.000 African slave trade.

01:05:25.000 It's it's it's it's insane.

01:05:26.000 I can imagine using robots as manufacturers because, you know, like a computer slave.

01:05:32.000 You got it.

01:05:32.000 For now, you still need people to do the finer manipulation of, you know, like, you know, you can use your hands to do better than we didn't even talk about the increase in automation, right?

01:05:42.000 Yeah.

01:05:42.000 You know, McDonald's, they have like one, sometimes I'll go into like a newer McDonald's.

01:05:46.000 It'll be like one person at the register and five machines that you do well beyond that.

01:05:51.000 You go to like travel stops when you're driving around the country and they have a robot robot ice cream, man.

01:05:56.000 You ever see these things?

01:05:57.000 Yeah.

01:05:58.000 And it's like, there's a little guy, it's like a creepy like cylinder with little arms and its arm will spin and then grab the cup and then go and then it'll pull the lever down, fills the ice cream up and it's like, it's like staring at you with its like creepy robotic gaze.

01:06:10.000 And then like the sprinkles come down and it goes, I love it.

01:06:13.000 I think the automation economy is inevitable and that the whole job economy thing is probably going to be a thing of the past.

01:06:19.000 Somebody's got to build the robots.

01:06:20.000 Somebody's got to design the robots.

01:06:22.000 Somebody's got to maintain the robots.

01:06:23.000 Electricity has to power the robots.

01:06:24.000 This has happened all throughout history.

01:06:25.000 Right.

01:06:26.000 You know, one industry goes, you know, and people, I mean, it's not like it used to be where you can work a job for 20, 30 years.

01:06:32.000 You need to constantly evolve your brain and how you work and your work ethic and your skills and your knowledge constantly.

01:06:39.000 You can't get comfortable and work a job for 30, 40 years.

01:06:42.000 Obviously, there's some jobs you can, but for the most part, Your job right now is going to be obsolete in 20 years.

01:06:47.000 Did I ever tell you a story about the homeless guy I met in Chicago?

01:06:50.000 No.

01:06:51.000 This is a story I tell a lot of people, and I probably told it on this show, but there was a homeless guy.

01:06:54.000 I was skating in downtown Chicago when I was like 18 or 19, and he looked like he was like 60.

01:06:58.000 He was some old black dude, and I had some leftover pizza, so I was like, I was like, hey man, I was like, you want some pizza?

01:07:05.000 I was just leaving a restaurant, and he was like, yeah, for sure, man.

01:07:08.000 I think he called me youngblood or something, and I was like, you got it, bro, and you know, fist bump, and then I was like, can I ask you a question, a personal question?

01:07:13.000 And I was like, are you homeless?

01:07:15.000 And he says, yes sir, I am.

01:07:16.000 And I was like, how did that happen?

01:07:18.000 Long story short, he said, listen man, he's like, you know, I worked, I think he said he worked for the post office or something, or he worked, he worked for some company for years.

01:07:27.000 And then eventually when the company started downsizing and they didn't, they didn't need whatever the company produced anymore, you know, one day someone comes up to him and says, sorry man, like company's going under, nobody buys this product for whatever reason.

01:07:38.000 So, you know, we're gonna have to let you go.

01:07:40.000 You got about one more month.

01:07:42.000 So he loses his job, and then he says the first thing he did was he went to go find more jobs.

01:07:46.000 But when you're an expert working at this factory that produces a specific product, what job are you going to find to maintain yourself?

01:07:53.000 He's like, I got an apartment, I got bills, and I need a certain amount of money.

01:07:57.000 But because my skill is in this area, once I lose that job, I go to any other company.

01:08:02.000 He's like, I go to McDonald's.

01:08:03.000 I go to Wendy's.

01:08:04.000 And they're like, we'd love to hire you.

01:08:06.000 You seem great.

01:08:06.000 Some places say, you're overqualified.

01:08:09.000 You were a manager?

01:08:10.000 Oh, sorry, we can't hire you.

01:08:11.000 But even if they do, you go from making $20 to $10.

01:08:13.000 He's like, I got a job, but I still couldn't afford my bills.

01:08:17.000 Eventually, my car gets taken.

01:08:20.000 I can't afford my rent anymore.

01:08:22.000 And eventually the landlord comes and he says, if you don't pay your rent by this time, I'm kicking you out.

01:08:26.000 And he's like, listen, man, he's like, I'm old, man.

01:08:28.000 He's like, my friends and my family, they're gone.

01:08:30.000 Many people have passed.

01:08:32.000 And then one day they come to me and say, you can't pay your rent.

01:08:34.000 You're gone.

01:08:35.000 He's like, I exhausted unemployment benefits.

01:08:37.000 I had nothing left.

01:08:38.000 And now here I am.

01:08:39.000 Yeah.

01:08:39.000 We're going to see a lot of that happen now because of the lockdowns.

01:08:41.000 We're going to see ex-business restaurant owners being managers at McDonald's, if they're lucky.

01:08:47.000 Oh, get under the boot of the corporate machine, man.

01:08:50.000 And you know what really bothers me?

01:08:52.000 I want to go back to this. 0.99

01:08:53.000 The minimum wage is stupid, and I will assert myself as left on economic policy. 0.99

01:09:01.000 Everything I just explained about this guy losing his job and becoming homeless is a problem brought up by economic leftists. 1.00

01:09:08.000 But I'm not stupid enough to think the minimum wage solves that problem. 0.70

01:09:10.000 And you know who's for the lockdowns right now? 0.96

01:09:13.000 Bill Gates.

01:09:14.000 It's the left!

01:09:14.000 Yeah.

01:09:15.000 The leftists, you know, who are destroying, like, listen, there are Republicans who are ignoring it.

01:09:20.000 Like I said, you know, the Democrats in these cities and states have destroyed the economy, and they've turned people from small business owners with their own little, you know, private space and fiefdom and ownership that made them happy, and they've pushed them down into the poverty class, and they want them to live under the boot of corporations, and it is the left in this country that is doing it.

01:09:40.000 The left is supposed to be saying that government is good.

01:09:44.000 Government is good.

01:09:45.000 We all work together.

01:09:46.000 We do socialism and the people are in this together.

01:09:49.000 Yet they're using the power of government to force people to work for McDonald's. 0.93

01:09:54.000 That's the left.

01:09:58.000 10, 20, 30 big trillion dollar corporations and the rest of the country just works for them.

01:10:04.000 Exactly.

01:10:04.000 That's the democrat socialist future.

01:10:06.000 And it's so crazy because they have the voters totally fooled.

01:10:09.000 They have the voters fooled that that's fighting for the people.

01:10:12.000 They hate these big corporations.

01:10:13.000 They hate the billionaires.

01:10:15.000 But everything that they're supporting is funded and supported by the same people they say they hate.

01:10:20.000 They're being so duped.

01:10:22.000 Yeah, I was making the most in any like menial job, the most money ever made.

01:10:26.000 I wasn't making minimum wage.

01:10:27.000 I was making $2.13 an hour as a waiter, and I was getting tips based on percentages of sales.

01:10:34.000 So I was making percentages of what the company was making, and that was the best living I could make.

01:10:39.000 So maybe we don't need minimum wage. 0.96

01:10:40.000 Maybe we need like...

01:10:42.000 A guaranteed percent of profits earned.

01:10:44.000 The Democrats in some areas, I know they were doing this with Uber, they were fighting for waiters and waitresses to make minimum wage. 0.99

01:10:52.000 Yes, no more tip economy.

01:10:54.000 If you were a waiter and a waitress, you don't want to make minimum wage. 0.68

01:11:00.000 No, you get taxed.

01:11:01.000 If you work at a good bar, you can come home with a couple thousand in it.

01:11:04.000 And if it's cash, it's not.

01:11:05.000 I mean, they say to declare all your tips, but every waiter I know.

01:11:08.000 Unless it's credit card.

01:11:10.000 That's why you always make sure you... Yeah, all your credit card.

01:11:13.000 Tip with cash so that it's on the waiter's back.

01:11:16.000 No, no, no.

01:11:16.000 Pay your taxes.

01:11:17.000 And pay your taxes.

01:11:19.000 I know people who do waitering and people who do it full time as a full time job, they'll claim like half.

01:11:25.000 But also, how is it that if you help me move some boxes and I give you 50 bucks that you need to go tell the government?

01:11:31.000 That's crazy.

01:11:33.000 You know what?

01:11:34.000 That's probably another reason why the Democrats want corporate America because everything goes through the tax system. 1.00

01:11:38.000 That's why they want digital currencies too.

01:11:40.000 They want everything to be tracked and everything.

01:11:43.000 So look, I'll try and keep as vague as possible because I don't want to reveal people's private information, but I have friends When I was growing up where one dude goes to college gets a

01:11:52.000 degree and then he gets out and the job he gets with That degree pays him like 15 bucks an hour and he's happy.

01:11:57.000 He's like, yeah, I got a degree It's an entry-level position, you know, I'm 22 and then I

01:12:00.000 have friends who go and serve, you know Like at a restaurant, you know like a steakhouse and they

01:12:06.000 make 50 bucks an hour Yeah, they don't want minimum wage. I opened up my own

01:12:10.000 small business a few years ago. I opened up a grilled cheese

01:12:13.000 Oh, you're a fascist. Yeah, I open up a grilled cheese joint called get grilled. Really? Yeah, and 0.98

01:12:19.000 No, no, we wanted to turn it into a brand it was like a Subway for grilled cheeses

01:12:24.000 It was awesome the good but subway can do grilled cheese. I mean, you don't go there really, right?

01:12:29.000 Right good bread good cheese. Yeah, and It was a really good idea.

01:12:34.000 It was awesome.

01:12:34.000 Everybody that visited was like, wow, this is going to be big.

01:12:37.000 This is awesome.

01:12:37.000 They're so good.

01:12:38.000 The grilled cheeses.

01:12:39.000 We made the process as similar to that streamlined process to make things easier.

01:12:44.000 Like Chipotle?

01:12:45.000 Yeah.

01:12:46.000 And the thing is, after doing that, realizing all the regulations of coming in, how expensive it was because of the taxes.

01:12:52.000 My employees made way more money than me.

01:12:55.000 And I had to end up paying them out of the pocket because it wasn't profitable and um one of the reasons was one the mall that we were in was really bad and then two just like the regulations of them coming in all this useless stuff that we don't need and then some like idiot who's coming there and like you know making sure everything's up to code made us put like this six foot What you see now when you go into a store and there's that glass shield, they made us put that over the food.

01:13:20.000 And when we're talking to the customers, we gotta lean over because they can't hear us because the wall is curved.

01:13:26.000 That's just unnecessary.

01:13:31.000 There's a correlation between the strength of a country's economy and the ease at which an individual has to start a business.

01:13:39.000 The harder it is to start a business, the worse economies do.

01:13:43.000 And I'll tell you, we talked about this, you know, last week or whatever, in Tunisia.

01:13:46.000 I'm sorry, real quick, and also in that same mall, all the similar businesses were all owned and ran by the business owner.

01:13:53.000 Exactly.

01:13:53.000 They would work 12-hour shifts, and that was the only way they could be profitable.

01:13:57.000 Sorry to cut you off.

01:13:58.000 In Tunisia, the Arab Spring started because a guy was trying to sell fruit from a cart, and the government kept blocking him and wouldn't let him, so eventually he just went in front of a building and set himself on fire.

01:14:06.000 But I'll tell you this.

01:14:08.000 You think grilled cheese is a good idea?

01:14:09.000 You wanna know the best idea ever for a fast-casual restaurant?

01:14:13.000 What?

01:14:13.000 You go in, alright?

01:14:15.000 And there's three key food items.

01:14:18.000 three food items.

01:14:20.000 That's what we saw.

01:14:20.000 And then sides, and you know what it is?

01:14:22.000 It's chicken tikka masala, it's pod thai, and it's orange chicken.

01:14:26.000 Yeah.

01:14:27.000 So those are actually like the top.

01:14:28.000 That's kind of like what internet does.

01:14:29.000 The top.

01:14:30.000 It's fries and burgers, and that's why they're able to.

01:14:32.000 I'm half kidding though, but like I had this idea because I was reading about the top things ordered

01:14:36.000 from you know, Grubhub or whatever.

01:14:38.000 It's like pod thai, chicken tikka masala, and orange chicken, and I was like,

01:14:41.000 put them all in one fast casual place.

01:14:43.000 You know, call it super.

01:14:44.000 You know what you could do?

01:14:46.000 I'm going to reveal this idea online.

01:14:48.000 Maybe someone will build it.

01:14:49.000 You make combinations where they can go in and they can decide what oil they want.

01:14:52.000 Do they want coconut, olive, you know, sesame oil?

01:14:57.000 And then what vinegar they want.

01:14:58.000 Do they want rice wine?

01:14:59.000 What you just depict the oil and the vinegar that goes into the food changes the flavor completely.

01:15:03.000 There's a place in, there's a chain in New York that does that.

01:15:06.000 And you'll be like, I'd like a white wine vinegar with coconut oil.

01:15:09.000 And they have a fridge full of all the different kinds of lettuce.

01:15:10.000 They'll have like spinach, spring greens, romaine, iceberg.

01:15:13.000 And then they have the different meats.

01:15:14.000 And then they have different fish.

01:15:16.000 Yeah, different fish.

01:15:16.000 And you walk and you'll say, I'll do spring greens with grilled chicken.

01:15:20.000 And I'll do, you know, the white wine vinegar with crispy onions and mushrooms.

01:15:24.000 And then they take it all and they cook it in front of you as you walk down the line.

01:15:28.000 Really good place.

01:15:28.000 It's all about that oil and that vinegar, man.

01:15:29.000 I forgot what it's called, though.

01:15:30.000 I forgot what it's called.

01:15:31.000 Is that the one where they cook it on, like, a thing with, like, sticks?

01:15:33.000 That's hibachi.

01:15:34.000 No, no, no.

01:15:35.000 No, that's the one where, like, they cook it with sticks.

01:15:36.000 It's kind of like Chipotle.

01:15:37.000 You walk in, you get in line, and then you walk up to say, what do you want?

01:15:39.000 And you're like, spring greens, you know, steak.

01:15:43.000 And they cook the steak and they cut it in front of you.

01:15:45.000 It's amazing.

01:15:45.000 Yeah.

01:15:45.000 So the thing is like with the restaurant industry, the more you add to the menu, the more options you give, it just adds more to the start to the cost of running things.

01:15:55.000 Cause then, you know, if you have more items, you need more space.

01:15:58.000 Cause obviously at first to just keep your base ingredients, like, yeah.

01:16:02.000 You want a salmon, you want like a steak and like, I don't know.

01:16:06.000 That's why Chipotle is so streamlined.

01:16:09.000 It's like, you know, four different types of meats, three different, two different types of rice, two different types of beans.

01:16:13.000 And you can make all these different types of combinations.

01:16:16.000 Same thing with In-N-Out.

01:16:17.000 It's just burgers and fries.

01:16:19.000 So it's like they can handle a hundred customers every 10 minutes because it's only burgers and fries.

01:16:23.000 They're just mass cooking it and getting it out the door.

01:16:26.000 Yeah.

01:16:26.000 Well, if they had to make to order at In-N-Out.

01:16:28.000 You'll be online for six hours.

01:16:29.000 And then you have in Seattle, you have Dick's.

01:16:31.000 Do you know Dick's in Seattle?

01:16:32.000 Last resort?

01:16:33.000 No, it's just called Dick's.

01:16:35.000 It's a hamburger joint called Dick's.

01:16:36.000 And so the reason why they do really well, though, is not because they just sell burgers and fries and milkshakes, I think.

01:16:43.000 But you want to know why that business does really well?

01:16:46.000 Because when I'm in Seattle, my friends go, you want to eat a bag of Dick's?

01:16:51.000 I'm not kidding.

01:16:53.000 I'm not kidding.

01:16:54.000 And so, and then, and then the first time I heard that, I was like, haha, very funny.

01:16:56.000 Like, no, no, no, no.

01:16:57.000 Dick's burger joint.

01:16:58.000 And I'm like, wait, what?

01:16:59.000 And they're like, yeah, it's a burger joint.

01:17:00.000 I was like, hell yeah.

01:17:00.000 Oh, burgers.

01:17:02.000 But think about it.

01:17:02.000 Think about it.

01:17:03.000 All of a sudden you're like someone like, what do you want to do tonight?

01:17:07.000 Let's go out. 1.00

01:17:08.000 Let, you know, let's go eat a bag of dicks. 1.00

01:17:10.000 And you're like. 0.99

01:17:11.000 And then everyone's laughing.

01:17:13.000 So somebody gets the joke and then you actually go and buy the burgers.

01:17:17.000 Right?

01:17:17.000 So it's like, it's clever marketing.

01:17:19.000 Clever marketing.

01:17:20.000 But you know, anyway, we were talking about... Dick's a funny word.

01:17:23.000 Let's be honest.

01:17:23.000 It's a guy's name.

01:17:25.000 You know what really creeped me out?

01:17:26.000 I saw a billboard runs on Seattle and it was a pig grilling bacon or something.

01:17:31.000 Yeah.

01:17:32.000 It was like a billboard for like a smokehouse or like, like barbecue.

01:17:35.000 And it was like a smiling pig with a chef's hat.

01:17:36.000 And he was like frying bacon.

01:17:38.000 And I was like, geez.

01:17:39.000 Yeah, pigs will eat each other, I believe.

01:17:40.000 Yeah, they will.

01:17:42.000 Luke was telling us about that.

01:17:43.000 Luke was saying that, you know, he was on a farm with a bunch of pigs, and the pigs will, like, bite you because they're trying to eat you, and you gotta, like, kick them back and stop them.

01:17:51.000 Dang, they're hungry.

01:17:52.000 And then he was saying that what they do when you're on a farm and there's no food and you're, like, struggling or starving, they'll cripple one of the pigs, and then the other pigs will just eat it.

01:18:01.000 Ooh! 0.96

01:18:01.000 Crazy, dude! 0.96

01:18:03.000 Pigs are nuts! 1.00

01:18:04.000 I'm gonna go to the bathroom. 1.00

01:18:05.000 I'll be back.

01:18:07.000 Anyway, regulation, Joey.

01:18:08.000 Regulation destroys small businesses.

01:18:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:10.000 I mean, I've seen it firsthand.

01:18:12.000 And it's, you know, I was at this one place yesterday. 0.98

01:18:15.000 Damn, what was the name of it? 0.96

01:18:16.000 It was in Staten Island, and the guy got arrested. 0.99

01:18:19.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:18:19.000 You went to that bar?

01:18:20.000 Max Pub House.

01:18:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:18:23.000 You went there?

01:18:24.000 Yeah, I went there.

01:18:25.000 We were just all hanging out.

01:18:26.000 Oh, that's right, because you're a former congressional candidate from Staten Island.

01:18:29.000 That's right, yeah.

01:18:29.000 Oh, no.

01:18:30.000 No former loser. 0.81

01:18:33.000 So. 0.99

01:18:33.000 Well, former loser, you did lose. 0.99

01:18:35.000 I did lose, yeah. 1.00

01:18:36.000 So you're a loser. 1.00

01:18:37.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:18:37.000 Ongoing loser. 1.00

01:18:38.000 Ongoing loser. 0.99

01:18:40.000 So what they did was they did all the legal loopholes to get past lockdowns. 0.97

01:18:45.000 They're in autonomous zone.

01:18:48.000 They're in chapel now.

01:18:50.000 I told them, I'm like, just put a Black Lives Matter sign on the front

01:18:53.000 because de Blasio says that's okay.

01:18:55.000 But even though they're doing all the legal loopholes to open up, it does not matter

01:19:00.000 because the Democrats' agenda, like their law is a sliding scale.

01:19:04.000 Even though you're following it, eh, I don't like it.

01:19:06.000 We're gonna shut you down.

01:19:06.000 And those people in particular, they're broke.

01:19:09.000 It's the cops, bro.

01:19:10.000 Yeah.

01:19:12.000 There'd be no shut down.

01:19:13.000 This guy would not be shut down if the cops weren't enforcing it.

01:19:15.000 Exactly.

01:19:16.000 I heard that people were telling me that it's not so much the NYPD, but the sheriff and the state troopers.

01:19:22.000 The NYPD, they came to my family's restaurant multiple times. 0.91

01:19:25.000 They don't give a damn. 0.63

01:19:26.000 They come, whatever.

01:19:27.000 Although, I never told you this story.

01:19:29.000 So my family's restaurant opened up in the summer when they allowed some of the outdoor dining.

01:19:34.000 And then the health official came.

01:19:38.000 Yeah.

01:19:38.000 and analyze the place or whatever.

01:19:39.000 Everybody was wearing masks.

01:19:41.000 They were all up to code.

01:19:42.000 Some people were wearing masks that weren't like mask masks, but they were like a face visor,

01:19:46.000 like a see-through plastic visor.

01:19:48.000 I guess that wasn't okay.

01:19:50.000 Yeah, it's gotta be cloth.

01:19:50.000 Yeah, and the guy comes in, he looks around, and he takes the liquor license away.

01:19:56.000 Just what, right like that?

01:19:57.000 Right then and there.

01:19:58.000 Wow.

01:19:59.000 And then it goes to, I guess, the liquor department.

01:20:04.000 Can you give the booze away if you have no liquor license?

01:20:07.000 That's another loophole that I think Max was doing.

01:20:09.000 They were giving the food away and then just had a donation joint.

01:20:14.000 But, you know, the loopholes don't matter.

01:20:15.000 Right, right.

01:20:17.000 Then I went online and I found the Liquor Authority, their livestream of them all talking and declaring for every business, OK, we're going to fine them $50,000.

01:20:28.000 OK, we're going to fine them $30,000, but they have to shut the music off at 10 o'clock. 1.00

01:20:33.000 Like, all these rules trying to punish businesses, and these are unelected people sitting in a position of power, And trust me, they're the stupidest looking people. 1.00

01:20:42.000 You look at them, you're like, these people should be bums on the street. 1.00

01:20:46.000 And they're the ones, like dictators, deciding what businesses are allowed to do and the fines that they have.

01:20:52.000 You've got to get out of New York City, man.

01:20:53.000 Yeah.

01:20:54.000 And I saw them.

01:20:56.000 They did the whole thing on my family's restaurant.

01:20:58.000 It was completely wrong.

01:21:00.000 They were looking at photos.

01:21:01.000 They had drone footage.

01:21:03.000 And they said, yeah, we see people not wearing masks by the pool.

01:21:07.000 They listed off a bunch of other things.

01:21:09.000 I forgot what it was, but everything they listed, there's no pool.

01:21:12.000 Yeah.

01:21:13.000 That's what I'm trying to say.

01:21:13.000 There's no pool.

01:21:14.000 I was like, that's kind of weird.

01:21:15.000 Everything they were listing off was not even true and was not even like, they must've had the information from the wrong place.

01:21:22.000 Or they don't care, man.

01:21:23.000 Or they don't care.

01:21:24.000 And there's no appeal process.

01:21:25.000 You can't state your case.

01:21:27.000 It's just whatever they say, they bang the gavel and you're done.

01:21:29.000 I'm sorry, Joey.

01:21:30.000 You're actually wrong on all counts.

01:21:32.000 Just because some random person says it doesn't make it true.

01:21:35.000 Like, if a random person is like, we're, you know, we're shutting you down, be like, who are you?

01:21:40.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:40.000 I'm the health inspector.

01:21:41.000 Says who? 0.65

01:21:42.000 Says my badge.

01:21:42.000 What badge?

01:21:43.000 Who's that from?

01:21:44.000 Sorry.

01:21:44.000 Then they send the state troopers over, and then they arrest you.

01:21:47.000 Come back with a warrant.

01:21:47.000 I told my mom.

01:21:48.000 Then get arrested.

01:21:49.000 I told my mom.

01:21:50.000 I'm like, next time they come, next time they come, you take your phone out, you start recording, you tell them they have no legal constitutional rights to come here and do what they're doing, and you kick them out.

01:21:59.000 And you tell them to come back.

01:22:01.000 Never.

01:22:02.000 Like, you kick them out.

01:22:03.000 You say, you're banned from the premises.

01:22:04.000 Do not come back here.

01:22:05.000 You know what, man?

01:22:06.000 I guess this isn't true for Staten Island.

01:22:08.000 You guys elected Max Rose, alright?

01:22:11.000 He's out now.

01:22:11.000 Yeah, he's out now, but look.

01:22:13.000 Am I supposed to have sympathy for New Yorkers who keep voting for these people?

01:22:17.000 See, Staten Island does not vote for any of those.

01:22:20.000 We want to secede from the city.

01:22:23.000 The city won't let us because the city knows, okay, if we let Staten Island be their own thing.

01:22:27.000 What's the city gonna do to stop you?

01:22:29.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:22:30.000 Why aren't we just doing it?

01:22:32.000 File a claim with the state or the Supreme Court.

01:22:34.000 There's New York City taxes, and then there's state taxes.

01:22:39.000 And the city will not let us leave because everybody in Manhattan would immediately move to Staten Island.

01:22:45.000 All the big businesses will move over there to avoid the taxes.

01:22:48.000 Nah, they'd move to Jersey City, man.

01:22:50.000 They'd do that too, but I'm saying Staten Island.

01:22:52.000 You still gotta pay taxes if you live in Jersey City.

01:22:54.000 Yeah, Staten Island will, like, there'll be a mass exodus from Manhattan over this, and it'll make the Democrats look bad because everyone's fleeing.

01:23:00.000 Just like they're fleeing now.

01:23:01.000 Everyone from Staten Island, kind of a banded ship.

01:23:04.000 Hey man, Ulysses S. Grant says anybody who feels like they're oppressed by their government has a right to revolution.

01:23:09.000 That was, that's Ulysses, man.

01:23:11.000 He, that's the North, you know?

01:23:13.000 I love Staten, I've been there a couple times.

01:23:14.000 I was there for Hurricane Sandy, I did, with Occupy Sandy, I did clean up in Staten Island.

01:23:19.000 There's a lot of wooded areas, but everything's starting to be torn down from more houses.

01:23:22.000 That is crazy dude.

01:23:23.000 What's the middle of the island like?

01:23:26.000 I've only ever been to the, you know how like roads will go around

01:23:28.000 and in the middle it looks like just like wilderness and mountain houses?

01:23:31.000 There's a lot of wooded areas, but everything's starting to be torn down

01:23:36.000 from more houses.

01:23:37.000 The property value I heard from a realtor was actually going up,

01:23:41.000 because it's one of the places people are leaving Manhattan for.

01:23:43.000 Even though you're still part of New York City, it's just less crime.

01:23:46.000 It's a very clean town.

01:23:48.000 You know that people in New York City don't consider Staten Island New York City.

01:23:51.000 That's the thing.

01:23:52.000 Every liberal leftist Democrat in New York City is like, F Staten Island. 1.00

01:23:56.000 It's an asshole. 1.00

01:23:57.000 It's not New York City. 1.00

01:23:57.000 They tell me that Brooklyn wasn't New York City. 1.00

01:23:59.000 We do not want to even be a part of you.

01:24:01.000 Just let us leave.

01:24:02.000 No, they want your money, dude!

01:24:03.000 They just want our money. 0.62

01:24:04.000 You hate us.

01:24:05.000 The leaders hate us.

01:24:06.000 The voters hate us.

01:24:07.000 We don't want to be a part of you.

01:24:08.000 The Staten Island Fair is fun, though.

01:24:10.000 That would be interesting to break up the boroughs. 0.92

01:24:12.000 It is, man.

01:24:12.000 Going from what's like Battery Park or whatever, and then you take the boat to Staten Island.

01:24:17.000 Brooklyn and Queens are kind of connected.

01:24:18.000 They're so interwoven, it'd be tough to break those into two cities.

01:24:22.000 Queens is huge, man.

01:24:23.000 Queens is massive. 1.00

01:24:25.000 People don't realize how big it is.

01:24:26.000 It's the biggest borough, isn't it?

01:24:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:24:28.000 It's ridiculously big.

01:24:30.000 Yeah, but Staten Island, I think I've been there three times, and I lived in New York for five years.

01:24:34.000 Three times I've been to Staten Island.

01:24:36.000 But I would go to the Bronx, Harlem, Queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan, all the time, like a couple times a day, you're bouncing around.

01:24:42.000 You got a friend in the Upper West Side that'll come over across the bridge, come to the Bronx or whatever.

01:24:46.000 Sure. 0.88

01:24:47.000 And all the Democrats, they like to say Staten Island's a big pile, a big dump.

01:24:51.000 Hey, it's the only, like, borough you can have a clean, nice backyard, not tripled with homeless people in the streets.

01:24:56.000 I'm like, you hate on it because you ain't it.

01:24:58.000 Is the city of New York extracting the wealth from the boroughs and then centralizing it in Manhattan?

01:25:04.000 I don't really know.

01:25:06.000 Well, yes, but if we replace the word Manhattan with, like, de Blasio's pockets.

01:25:11.000 Mansion.

01:25:12.000 Yeah, like his wife getting two million dollars for her staff or whatever.

01:25:15.000 Or a billion dollars went missing or something.

01:25:18.000 New York!

01:25:19.000 Gotta love it.

01:25:20.000 You know, I think New York, if you live in New York City, you have the second highest taxes in the country because of the city tax.

01:25:27.000 Yeah.

01:25:27.000 It's city income tax.

01:25:29.000 You gotta pay the city, state, and federal.

01:25:32.000 California's the highest income tax.

01:25:33.000 People are flinging.

01:25:34.000 You hear what California wants to do?

01:25:35.000 What?

01:25:36.000 If you spend at least 60 days in California, non-consecutive, they'll tax you for 10 years.

01:25:43.000 Wow.

01:25:44.000 Good luck!

01:25:44.000 That's why I'm moving to Vegas.

01:25:45.000 Zero state taxes.

01:25:46.000 Oh, but they got you already, bro.

01:25:47.000 They got you.

01:25:48.000 They got you.

01:25:48.000 I'm moving at the beginning of the year.

01:25:50.000 Don't matter.

01:25:51.000 If they pass this bill, they pass this law or whatever, they're gonna come after you.

01:25:55.000 Now, let's be real.

01:25:56.000 What are they gonna do?

01:25:57.000 California state trooper gonna show up in Vegas?

01:25:58.000 Right.

01:25:59.000 No.

01:25:59.000 They'll just shut my bank accounts down.

01:26:01.000 If they're California based.

01:26:03.000 Yeah.

01:26:03.000 Oh no, I'm doing everything.

01:26:05.000 Dude, California, California has, uh, this year, I think they lost 140,000 people.

01:26:11.000 Net negative migration over the past several years.

01:26:14.000 Dude, California has collapsed.

01:26:15.000 I want to give a shout out to Vegas.

01:26:17.000 I love that city.

01:26:18.000 If you go to the outskirts where it's like, it's, there'll be houses and then there's desert.

01:26:23.000 Like your front yard is desert and you can see mountains and then behind you is the city lights of Vegas.

01:26:28.000 Yeah, but you know that Vegas is being, they're reversing, what's it called, reverse desertification or whatever?

01:26:35.000 A desert reclamation.

01:26:36.000 So because people who move to Vegas want lawns, they import water.

01:26:40.000 Where?

01:26:41.000 From?

01:26:42.000 Let people move to Vegas, and then they want lawns. 1.00

01:26:44.000 Because they don't want desert, they don't want sand, right?

01:26:46.000 What if they'll start seeding, you know how they're in Abu Dhabi, they're rain seeding?

01:26:49.000 They don't need to do that.

01:26:50.000 There's already clouds popping up all over Vegas.

01:26:54.000 Oh, because of the lawns.

01:26:55.000 Interesting.

01:26:55.000 Also pools, too.

01:26:56.000 Yeah.

01:26:56.000 because the lawns are holding moisture and people are watering them and the

01:27:00.000 water is cycling back and so the more people move in also pool and the more

01:27:04.000 pools in the more grass dude I noticed all the houses that I looked at when I

01:27:08.000 went on my search I don't think I saw maybe one house with a lawn good but a

01:27:13.000 lot of the houses had fake grass and then obviously desert shrubbery

01:27:17.000 That's what I've noticed.

01:27:18.000 Check this out.

01:27:19.000 Maybe in Summerlin I could see more of that.

01:27:20.000 I'll tell you something really crazy.

01:27:22.000 People go to Vegas to vacation, right?

01:27:25.000 So you get on a plane, and while you're on the plane, you use the bathroom.

01:27:30.000 There's a lot of water in your poop, in your urine, right?

01:27:33.000 The plane dumps all that off in Vegas when they clean out the system.

01:27:38.000 We are importing fluids from human beings.

01:27:41.000 Not only that, they got to import soda and water and drinks for all of the tourists who keep coming in.

01:27:46.000 Exhale water.

01:27:47.000 Yes, exactly.

01:27:48.000 You exhale water.

01:27:49.000 So people, every time people come to Vegas, it's getting like, I remember I was there and it was partly cloudy.

01:27:55.000 And I'd been to Vegas like a decade ago, and it was like... They have some man-made lakes there, too.

01:27:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:59.000 We're importing water like crazy, and then the grass is really what's retaining it.

01:28:03.000 So we're turning the Vegas into, you know, green, like we're terraforming it.

01:28:07.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:28:08.000 I wonder if that Mojave... that's the Mojave Desert?

01:28:10.000 Is that that desert?

01:28:11.000 I think it's Mojave.

01:28:13.000 If that's sediment deposit left over from the flood 12,800 years ago, that North American glacial flood that just dumped It scathes the landscape and then dropped, it's all sand.

01:28:24.000 Like I know the Sahara is ocean sand.

01:28:25.000 If you look at, it just got pushed up onto the continent.

01:28:28.000 And I wonder if this is also like, if we could remove that sand, if there would be fresh dirt underneath.

01:28:33.000 That's interesting.

01:28:33.000 I don't think it matters.

01:28:34.000 I think humans are inadvertently terraforming vases.

01:28:37.000 Just raining on top of it.

01:28:38.000 Because that grass is gonna turn into dirt eventually.

01:28:41.000 Dude, that's awesome!

01:28:42.000 And then we're gonna grow more grass and we just keep bringing it in.

01:28:44.000 Import dirt.

01:28:46.000 No, for real, people are.

01:28:47.000 So we are, like, that's crazy.

01:28:49.000 I wonder what we could do to the Sahara, too.

01:28:50.000 Because what they've been doing with the Sahara is they've been planting trees along the desert line to stop the desert from growing.

01:28:57.000 Because it's killing and, you know, it expands.

01:28:59.000 So they keep planting trees and trying to, you know, big ones, and so it blocks the spread of the desert.

01:29:04.000 We could, you know, turn more places green, man.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, I'd like to put all that ocean sand back into the ocean at some point.

01:29:09.000 Yeah, just get a shovel and start.

01:29:11.000 One at a time.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:12.000 Or maybe we could use drones to start carting it now and get it done in 20 years.

01:29:16.000 Drones can't carry that much weight.

01:29:18.000 One by one.

01:29:18.000 If you have 100 million drones and they each carry 20 minutes, 10 ounces, that's all you need.

01:29:22.000 One cup at a time.

01:29:23.000 Let's do this.

01:29:24.000 Let's talk about aliens.

01:29:25.000 Let's talk about this, let's talk about aliens.

01:29:27.000 Yes.

01:29:28.000 This will be the last we can talk about.

01:29:29.000 We'll go to Super Chats afterwards.

01:29:30.000 But check this out.

01:29:31.000 Huge ball of fire falls from the sky and crashes into a Chinese county, leaving locals stunned.

01:29:39.000 Giant fireball was spotted flashing across the sky over Nankan, China.

01:29:44.000 Footage shows the burning sphere exploding and plumbing into the country.

01:29:48.000 Let me play this video for you guys, alright?

01:29:49.000 Let me play this video.

01:29:51.000 Wait, what?

01:29:52.000 What is this?

01:29:52.000 What?

01:29:53.000 Okay, no, that's a video of a mob attack for some reason.

01:29:56.000 What is this?

01:29:56.000 Yeah, that little plays.

01:29:58.000 That's so adorable.

01:29:58.000 Alright, let's refresh Daily Mail.

01:30:00.000 And let's play the... Look at this.

01:30:01.000 This is crazy.

01:30:03.000 It's like the sun.

01:30:04.000 What is it?

01:30:06.000 Is it a comet?

01:30:06.000 You can hear people yelling in Chinese and it crashed into the ground apparently. What was that? Was that at night?

01:30:11.000 That was at night. Oh, it looks like daytime Look at watch once it goes over the ridge you see it get

01:30:17.000 dark Holy cow. 1.00

01:30:18.000 Satellite?

01:30:19.000 Is that a satellite coming back?

01:30:20.000 Come on, Ian, Ian, Ian.

01:30:22.000 It could have been anything.

01:30:23.000 Well, I mean, I know it's aliens.

01:30:24.000 I'm just thinking outside the box.

01:30:26.000 Thinking outside the, exactly.

01:30:27.000 We know it's aliens.

01:30:27.000 It could be a conspiratorial.

01:30:28.000 Could it be a satellite?

01:30:29.000 We know it's aliens.

01:30:30.000 A rock?

01:30:31.000 Aliens, that sells clothes.

01:30:32.000 Unidentified object exploding into a blazing sphere, plunging.

01:30:36.000 You know, I feel bad for the aliens.

01:30:37.000 They were probably doing routine surveillance and then it malfunctioned, burst into flames, and now we're sitting here watching.

01:30:41.000 Out of all the places, China. 0.82

01:30:43.000 I want, it was probably, I mean... Now 20 new religions?

01:30:46.000 Satellite, probably, to 20, right?

01:30:48.000 Satellite does make the most sense.

01:30:50.000 But, uh, let's entertain the idea, because we were supposed to get aliens this year, right?

01:30:53.000 Remember that dude from Israel said aliens are real?

01:30:55.000 Yes!

01:30:55.000 You see that joke?

01:30:56.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:30:56.000 In Canada.

01:30:56.000 Yeah.

01:30:57.000 A guy, we had a guy in Canada like 10 years ago, former, like, defense minister or whatever, said, yep, aliens are real, and he basically said we need a one world government or something like that, you know.

01:31:07.000 Hey, could be a false flag for globalism.

01:31:11.000 I need aliens.

01:31:12.000 You need them.

01:31:12.000 I'm desensitized by Twitter, and now I need aliens.

01:31:14.000 We gotta have aliens. 0.99

01:31:16.000 You know what, man?

01:31:17.000 Yes.

01:31:18.000 We need aliens. 0.93

01:31:19.000 I'm bored.

01:31:20.000 I'm so ready.

01:31:20.000 Dude, listen, listen, listen.

01:31:21.000 Donald Trump filed some, like, lawsuit or whatever in Pennsylvania to, like, overturn the results.

01:31:27.000 And I was like, I don't want to do another segment talking about it, because he just did it again, like, a couple days ago.

01:31:33.000 And it's like, here we go.

01:31:34.000 Another claim challenging it for many of the same reasons.

01:31:38.000 And I'm like, really, man?

01:31:39.000 Can an alien just, like, come with a jetpack and land so we can change the subject?

01:31:45.000 That'd be cool.

01:31:45.000 You know what I mean?

01:31:46.000 Talk about something else. 0.99

01:31:47.000 We'll throw them in cages. 1.00

01:31:48.000 Yeah. 0.82

01:31:48.000 Yeah, probably. 0.82

01:31:50.000 Illegal aliens? 0.98

01:31:51.000 Illegal aliens, yeah. 0.99

01:31:52.000 Maybe meditation, but aliens.

01:31:54.000 Definitely aliens.

01:31:54.000 I prefer it.

01:31:55.000 Aliens would be fun.

01:31:55.000 So I'm gonna ask the obvious question.

01:31:56.000 Maybe I'm playing too many video games.

01:31:57.000 Ian, let me ask you the obvious question.

01:31:59.000 Why didn't they go and scoop up this thing that crashed?

01:32:03.000 Like, it landed across the mountains, right?

01:32:05.000 It's definitely a satellite.

01:32:05.000 Dude, what is it?

01:32:06.000 There's multiple videos of this.

01:32:07.000 It's crazy.

01:32:09.000 It's like, look at this, look at this video.

01:32:11.000 It's like, it's night out.

01:32:13.000 And it looks like daylight, whatever this is.

01:32:15.000 That's big.

01:32:16.000 Yeah, dude.

01:32:18.000 It's a bunch of illegal aliens. 0.98

01:32:20.000 It looked like a bolide, a very bright meteor.

01:32:23.000 Very convenient.

01:32:25.000 Or it was aliens firing off their test weapon.

01:32:27.000 If that was a meteor, wouldn't there be a little bit more of an explosion on the ground?

01:32:30.000 When it hits the ground?

01:32:31.000 I don't know.

01:32:31.000 Yeah, wouldn't something happen?

01:32:33.000 I don't know if it would explode.

01:32:36.000 Let's see, the Nansiang County government told Red Star News that it had heard the matter but was unclear of the details.

01:32:42.000 That must be scary.

01:32:42.000 Interesting.

01:32:43.000 And then Daily Mail gives us this really great breakdown of what an asteroid, comet, meteor, meteorite, meteorite is.

01:32:47.000 That's helpful.

01:32:47.000 Thank you.

01:32:47.000 Yeah, what's the difference?

01:32:49.000 An asteroid is a chunk of rock left over from collisions of the early solar system, mostly located between Mars and Jupiter.

01:32:54.000 A comet is a rock covered in ice, methane, and other compounds.

01:32:56.000 It orbits take them further in the solar system.

01:32:58.000 A meteor is what astronomers call a flash of light in the atmosphere when debris burns up.

01:33:03.000 A meteoroid is the debris itself.

01:33:06.000 Most are so small, they vaporize the atmosphere.

01:33:08.000 And if any of this meteoroid makes it to Earth, it's called a meteorite. 0.99

01:33:12.000 That's so dumb. 0.89

01:33:12.000 That's why you see comments, like Haley's comment, that like comes back, because it's like stuck in the atmosphere. 0.89

01:33:17.000 And it's ice.

01:33:18.000 So when asteroids rock, comet is ice.

01:33:21.000 And a meteor is when it enters the Earth's atmosphere.

01:33:23.000 Dude, when I saw this, I thought it was day out.

01:33:24.000 And then I just watched the video and I realized it was actually night time.

01:33:27.000 What if it was the exposure of the camera got messed up?

01:33:31.000 And that's all it is?

01:33:31.000 Not because there's multiple videos of it?

01:33:33.000 No, no.

01:33:33.000 Oh, I mean, uh, for the daylights.

01:33:35.000 It could have been the exposure of the camera.

01:33:37.000 But I think because the, uh, the other video where it shows it's really dark out.

01:33:41.000 Yeah.

01:33:41.000 And then you see it light up.

01:33:43.000 Yeah.

01:33:43.000 Like in this video, it's like really dark out.

01:33:45.000 There's no sun.

01:33:46.000 It could be some new military equipment that went wrong.

01:33:50.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:33:51.000 Yeah.

01:33:52.000 China could be testing some kind of crazy weapons and that's it.

01:33:56.000 Do you think aliens are real, Joe?

01:33:58.000 Of course.

01:33:59.000 You think they're here?

01:34:01.000 I mean, if they're real, they would be here.

01:34:02.000 Why?

01:34:02.000 Why would they be here?

01:34:03.000 I don't know, because they probably... Do you go and hang out and, like, watch anthills?

01:34:07.000 I guess some people do, you know what I mean? 0.99

01:34:09.000 What if, like, aliens are just, like, little kids watching stupid humans do dumb human stuff, and we think they're, like, this intelligent race that can't come here? 0.99

01:34:18.000 Like, think about you staring at an anthill and just watching them do their thing and being, like, it's crazy. 1.00

01:34:23.000 It's, like, so irrelevant, too.

01:34:25.000 Yeah.

01:34:25.000 So you're just like looking at it because you're like, I don't know, or like imagine watching pigeons and you're like wondering where the baby pigeons are because you never see them, you only ever see full-grown pigeons.

01:34:33.000 What if that's what it is?

01:34:34.000 It's like the aliens who come here are just driving by and it's like rubbernecking, they're like driving by Earth and they're like, oh look at all those people down there, what are they doing?

01:34:41.000 And then people are like, the aliens are here!

01:34:42.000 They're gonna kill us all!

01:34:43.000 And the aliens are like, I gotta go to Jim's house. 0.99

01:34:46.000 We're definitely an irrelevant speck to them.

01:34:49.000 Maybe.

01:34:50.000 We got nuclear weapons.

01:34:52.000 I guess that's concerning.

01:34:53.000 It just depends on where the aliens are in terms of ability and technology.

01:34:56.000 You gotta think.

01:34:57.000 All of existence, what, billions or trillions of years?

01:35:00.000 I don't know how long of existence and how long have we existed.

01:35:03.000 And then there's all that time before.

01:35:05.000 So who knows?

01:35:06.000 They can be a hundred million years civilization.

01:35:08.000 Which could be infinite amounts of time.

01:35:10.000 The big bang is just one of many rubber banding explosions of coalescence of matter and then propulsion.

01:35:16.000 What if we're the first?

01:35:18.000 That's statistically impossible.

01:35:21.000 No, it's not.

01:35:21.000 I mean, it is possible statistically, but I mean, it's actually one of the answers to Fermi's paradox.

01:35:26.000 Yeah.

01:35:27.000 You're familiar with Fermi's Paradox, or no?

01:35:28.000 No.

01:35:29.000 It's this idea, like, if the universe is this big, and it's existed for this long, and life is produced at this rate, shouldn't we have seen aliens at some point, or some evidence of them?

01:35:41.000 And there's a bunch of different... It's a question, basically.

01:35:44.000 And there's a bunch of different answers as to why we haven't.

01:35:47.000 One of the scariest ones is called the Great Filter.

01:35:49.000 The Great Filter is this idea that all civilizations, intelligent civilizations, come to a point where they destroy themselves.

01:35:54.000 Yeah.

01:35:55.000 That's the idea that the globalists have.

01:35:58.000 The climate change people.

01:36:00.000 That's why they want the authoritarian lockdown, because they feel like humanity will wipe itself out with war, with famine, with death, with pollution and destruction, unless we control every aspect of their lives.

01:36:13.000 I don't believe that's true.

01:36:14.000 What if they destroyed themselves and then rebuilt?

01:36:16.000 And then that's...

01:36:17.000 You know?

01:36:17.000 Or they kept destroying themselves multiple times.

01:36:18.000 Well, the idea is, like, if we fired off every nuke and every arsenal in a mutually assured destruction, this planet would be a smoldering rock.

01:36:25.000 They'd just be unmanageable.

01:36:25.000 Well, honestly, I think these other... We're humans.

01:36:28.000 They could have evolved differently.

01:36:30.000 Right.

01:36:30.000 They could be giant floating sacks of gas.

01:36:32.000 Or wolf people.

01:36:34.000 Or, like, what if they're... Big, giant ants that just work together like a hive mind.

01:36:38.000 Insects.

01:36:39.000 With tentacles for arms, and they don't care about... Like, our idea of emotions and everything might not exist on whatever these aliens are.

01:36:43.000 They could breathe methane.

01:36:45.000 There's so many...

01:36:46.000 But okay, so our universe was formed, it looks like it was mitosis that formed our moon.

01:36:51.000 Planet Theia, after the cataclysm of the solar system's creation 3.6 billion years ago, 24 planetoid bodies all colliding, one of them smashed into Earth, they call it Theia, and then it came out the other side like this form of mitosis, this molten ball that slowly cooled into the moon, this perfect magnetic shape that blocks out the sun exactly when you have it between the Earth and the sun.

01:37:13.000 No, no, no, not at the time.

01:37:14.000 Yeah, and it looks like it's magnetically all kind of held in place.

01:37:21.000 But gravitally, that's the reason why we grew up on this planet is because we had that moon pulling the tides and like evolving our bodies.

01:37:29.000 It's possible that that is a chemical reaction that's common throughout the universe that that planetoid mitosis.

01:37:34.000 So maybe, but I haven't, I don't think we've ever located another solar system where we can condemn that that has happened.

01:37:40.000 Didn't they find water on Mars?

01:37:41.000 Definitely.

01:37:42.000 Water particles, I think, in the soil.

01:37:43.000 Well, they're not sure.

01:37:44.000 I think they recanted that or whatever.

01:37:46.000 But there's a ton of Earth-like planets.

01:37:47.000 Yeah.

01:37:47.000 You know, I guess the issue, though, is, you know, going back to Fermi's paradox, the Great Filter is one of the problems.

01:37:53.000 The other is we might be the first.

01:37:55.000 We might be the first intelligent species.

01:37:57.000 It's possible.

01:37:58.000 I think it's unlikely.

01:38:00.000 But define intelligent.

01:38:02.000 Capable of manipulating their environment and you think that's like a planet of little dinosaurs running around?

01:38:08.000 Probably.

01:38:10.000 They were here before.

01:38:12.000 If that's there, eventually they would evolve into something like us.

01:38:15.000 Not necessarily.

01:38:15.000 Evolution isn't linear.

01:38:17.000 Intelligence isn't necessarily going to guarantee your survival.

01:38:21.000 So we eventually, I think it was like 40,000 years ago, humans got to the point where they were like, hey, I realized something.

01:38:27.000 I can use this rock to do a thing.

01:38:29.000 You ever see that video of the orangutan spearfishing?

01:38:33.000 Yeah, so that they're saying like orangutans are reaching like some kind of like caveman state where they're like using tools and that's why I think the aliens spliced our DNA Wow, well, that's like one of the famous conspiracy theories that aliens took primates and spliced their DNA and we don't have a missing link We do have the missing link though I heard that there's like millions of year gap.

01:38:56.000 We murdered them all off, all those other hominins. 1.00

01:38:59.000 20 years ago there was the missing link that people would cite for evolution, that's why they didn't believe it.

01:39:03.000 And then we found the missing link.

01:39:04.000 And they say, well what about the missing link between this and the next one?

01:39:06.000 Yeah, there's always a missing link.

01:39:07.000 Then we found it, then we found it, and we've actually gone way back.

01:39:10.000 And then we found, I think it's called Lucy, the oldest human ancestor, like a skull.

01:39:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:39:15.000 So you found evidence of this stuff.

01:39:16.000 And people back then were smaller, too.

01:39:18.000 Well, I don't know if it went bigger than smaller.

01:39:21.000 Dude, in like 1900, people were like five foot six.

01:39:23.000 Yeah.

01:39:24.000 Now they got all tall and now they're getting shorter.

01:39:25.000 Bovine hormones.

01:39:26.000 That's why apparently, I heard that the Napoleon complex, like of him being short and whatever, he was just normal size back then.

01:39:33.000 Right, exactly.

01:39:34.000 And the reason people think he was short is because his guards were big, because he would clearly pick the big, strong dudes to guard him.

01:39:39.000 And the British intentionally ran with it to make fun of him and spread that rumor.

01:39:43.000 That makes sense.

01:39:44.000 You ever hear of the stoned ape theory?

01:39:45.000 What's that?

01:39:47.000 Apes, that we evolve from apes, but it was because they started eating marijuana and mushrooms.

01:39:52.000 Psilocybin.

01:39:52.000 And started to, their brain chemistry started to change, they gave them intelligence.

01:39:55.000 Is this a Joe Rogan thing?

01:39:56.000 Yeah, I think Joe's talked about it a lot.

01:39:58.000 Yeah, it's a Joe Rogan thing.

01:39:58.000 And I'm all about like animal, I'm not into animal cruelty, but I would love to corral a bunch of apes and feed them mushrooms and just watch them.

01:40:05.000 See if they want to eat it.

01:40:06.000 Yeah, and just let them kind of watch.

01:40:08.000 So maybe that's what we are for another species.

01:40:11.000 Here's a thought.

01:40:14.000 Experimenting.

01:40:15.000 So I guess, you know, a lot of religious people believe that, you know, us humans were the only ones with a soul.

01:40:20.000 And then, like, I guess animals have life forces.

01:40:23.000 But then obviously we know evolution is a real thing.

01:40:25.000 We know we evolved from something.

01:40:28.000 And let's just say we evolved from apes.

01:40:30.000 At what point in that evolutionary... Or the common ancestor.

01:40:32.000 Yeah.

01:40:33.000 And I'm like, at what point in that evolutionary process does one have a soul and one doesn't?

01:40:37.000 If you do believe in all that.

01:40:38.000 You know, is there, like, the mo- like, where is that one point? 0.99

01:40:41.000 Well, there are interesting things.

01:40:43.000 We talked about this on the show with Michael and Alex, Alex Jones, the Precambrian Explosion.

01:40:48.000 There's a period in the fossil record where all of a sudden there's just a ton of different species.

01:40:52.000 And there's a bunch of different explanations for why it is, but people often look at that and say, like, you had very limited life, then you had a bunch of different species all around the same time something happened.

01:41:01.000 And, uh, you know, there's weird stuff we can't answer.

01:41:04.000 You know what I think people need to realize, too?

01:41:07.000 If we look back, scientifically, with carbon dating, with fossil records, with, you know, looking at the sedimentary layers of, like, you know, when things happened, you can see, like, volcanic ash, you can see, like, radiation.

01:41:18.000 It's all really well and good, because the logic is there, but you wouldn't be able to look back and find a spaceship.

01:41:26.000 So like, the point I'm making is, while I don't think- There's a lot of weird stuff in the Egyptian stuff.

01:41:31.000 Like the helicopters, and spotlights, but here's the point I'm saying- Even in the Bible, I mean- Yeah, spaceships.

01:41:36.000 Moses followed a beaming light in the sky for seven days, went behind a rock, and God gave him a tablet.

01:41:43.000 Yeah, electricity is not that hard to make with vinegar and iron.

01:41:47.000 There's some, there's some like, there's like some book where a dude goes up to heaven and meets God or something like that.

01:41:52.000 Oh, uh, Mary was thrown up into heaven, body and soul. 0.51

01:41:55.000 There's Moses.

01:41:56.000 Moses went up a mountain and spoke with God.

01:41:58.000 No, it was a guy who got beamed up.

01:42:00.000 Yeah.

01:42:01.000 Hot air balloons are super simple contraptions.

01:42:04.000 You might be thinking of John.

01:42:05.000 With a little bit of propulsion, like electromagnetic heat on a hot air balloon.

01:42:10.000 Um, hang gliders, super easy to make.

01:42:13.000 I wonder if they got into the orbit though, because then you need... No, I'm talking about the Book of Enoch.

01:42:16.000 Yeah.

01:42:16.000 Okay.

01:42:17.000 So that's not in the Bible.

01:42:18.000 Just so you know.

01:42:19.000 Right, right, right, right.

01:42:20.000 It's, it's, it's the Hebrew thing.

01:42:22.000 It's apocalyptic religious text.

01:42:23.000 It was removed from the Bible.

01:42:25.000 Yes.

01:42:25.000 Apocryphal.

01:42:25.000 Yeah.

01:42:25.000 It's outside the Bible.

01:42:26.000 It was removed from the Bible.

01:42:28.000 By who?

01:42:28.000 Lots of books were.

01:42:29.000 Who has the authority to do that?

01:42:30.000 All the different councils.

01:42:31.000 Yeah, they had councils about this.

01:42:32.000 Yeah.

01:42:32.000 This is the Council of Nicaea?

01:42:34.000 Yeah.

01:42:34.000 The first one?

01:42:36.000 I don't think it was the first one.

01:42:37.000 I'm pretty sure this is a story of the guy who, like, was brought to heaven.

01:42:40.000 Oh?

01:42:41.000 Yeah.

01:42:42.000 Dude, I want a copy of the OG Bible before Nicaea got their hands on it.

01:42:46.000 I'm sure it'd be interesting.

01:42:46.000 Talking about drugs, talking about how much acid they all dropped.

01:42:50.000 Or ergot, at the time.

01:42:51.000 I don't think you'd find it.

01:42:51.000 Yeah, there's so many, like, theories of what the Bible could be about.

01:42:55.000 Could it be drugs?

01:42:56.000 Could it be aliens?

01:42:57.000 Could it be really, you know, God and everything?

01:42:58.000 Or it could just be, like, All of the above.

01:43:00.000 It could be a collection of stories to help guide people.

01:43:04.000 That's what I tell people all the time.

01:43:05.000 Whether you believe in God or not, or Jesus or not, the Bible is a book of how to live your life.

01:43:12.000 It's a good person.

01:43:13.000 The don't eat shellfish and don't eat pork thing?

01:43:16.000 It's a safety thing.

01:43:17.000 It was telling people, here's the things you should live by.

01:43:21.000 It was bronze age individuals doing the best of their abilities. 0.91

01:43:24.000 And it was an attempt at explaining a lot of things.

01:43:27.000 And with limited knowledge, they created the book, man.

01:43:29.000 It's called The Book.

01:43:30.000 It's what the Bible means.

01:43:31.000 Put it all together.

01:43:32.000 Oh, interesting.

01:43:32.000 What language is that?

01:43:33.000 I don't know.

01:43:34.000 It means The Book.

01:43:35.000 Dude, I'm into the miracles.

01:43:37.000 The dude... Bibliotheca?

01:43:38.000 Like, if you've ever done Reiki, have you ever practiced Reiki?

01:43:40.000 Where you use, like, your magnetic field to put energy, heat into other people or withdraw?

01:43:44.000 I don't know about all that stuff.

01:43:46.000 I'm crazy, man.

01:43:46.000 So did Jesus, trust me.

01:43:48.000 And, uh, he was apparently a healer, like an energy healer, so I think he went and learned Reiki in, like, India, and then came back and had all this, like, reused Reiki on people.

01:43:55.000 He was only 33, and that's not recorded.

01:43:56.000 He disappeared in his 20s, and no one knows where he went.

01:43:59.000 You know, wasn't it, like, 13 to 30?

01:44:00.000 He was gone.

01:44:01.000 He was, like, in the East, practicing or meditating with, like, yogis and stuff, I don't know.

01:44:05.000 Kung fu and stuff.

01:44:06.000 Yeah.

01:44:06.000 Not Kung Fu, like martial arts.

01:44:08.000 No, I feel like people think that he went and trained, you know, and I don't know if that's true because it's not in the Bible, but there's a lot of people, there's like different cultures have depictions of Jesus and all of these depictions are of their particular ethnicity.

01:44:19.000 It's interesting.

01:44:20.000 There's like a drawing of Jesus in like East Asia and he's like Asian.

01:44:23.000 It's definitely an idea.

01:44:24.000 21 Jump Street.

01:44:25.000 And apparently that's all related to aliens and other weird drugs and whatever.

01:44:29.000 Let's read superchats!

01:44:31.000 If you have not already, smash that like button, throw in your superchats.

01:44:34.000 We're going to read your comments now, everybody.

01:44:36.000 Merry Christmas again.

01:44:37.000 Benjamin says, who is John Galt?

01:44:39.000 I don't know, who is that?

01:44:40.000 He's a guy.

01:44:41.000 Who is John Galt?

01:44:43.000 I'm just going to shrug that one off.

01:44:45.000 Yeah, right.

01:44:45.000 Well, that's a good question to ask when we have Joey saying that he's leaving California and we're talking about leaving Philly.

01:44:50.000 Who is John Galt is a reference to Atlas Shrugged, I believe, an Ayn Rand novel and a group of capitalists that has decided they've had it with society's overbearing arches and want to go create their own magical community on Staten Island.

01:45:03.000 Just kidding about the Staten Island.

01:45:06.000 Where do they make it in the book?

01:45:07.000 Is it like a fictitious... Yeah, it's in like West Virginia, I think, or something.

01:45:10.000 Is it?

01:45:11.000 That's where we're going.

01:45:13.000 gemcast says hey what do you think about a new executive power so the president can do a super veto where congress can't overrule of course he would get a set amount of these but this would stop the omnibus packages I don't know about that.

01:45:26.000 I think the Founding Fathers were pretty clever with how they set everything up.

01:45:29.000 And the fact that they're trying to curtail the President's power to invoke the Insurrection Act, like, negates the point of the Executive Branch.

01:45:36.000 The Executive is supposed to be able to act quickly and decisively in the face of a threat. 0.60

01:45:40.000 Congress being like, well, you gotta get our approval, kind of just takes that power away, which is kind of ridiculous.

01:45:45.000 So, that's a bad thing in my opinion.

01:45:48.000 Dr. Certifiable says, if Biden is compromised, can't the U.S.

01:45:51.000 just out-bribe China so he works for us? 0.58

01:45:53.000 That's it.

01:45:54.000 Yes.

01:45:54.000 Oh.

01:45:55.000 Yeah.

01:45:56.000 GTR35 says, Ethereum is down.

01:45:58.000 Time to buy.

01:45:58.000 I just bought some Bitcoin.

01:46:00.000 Ethereum.

01:46:01.000 Ari Halbrin says, Merry Christmas, Tim and crew.

01:46:03.000 Thank you for all you do, keeping me informed and entertained at work.

01:46:06.000 Both.

01:46:06.000 Appreciate it.

01:46:06.000 Merry Christmas.

01:46:08.000 All right, let's see.

01:46:09.000 Max Lang says, Tim, you are dead wrong about what would happen as fallout of repealing Section 230.

01:46:13.000 It would not be a mass exodus the way you make it out to be.

01:46:17.000 It would be an instant barrage of lawsuits against Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube, and then they would have to shut down the services to stop this from happening, and they'd probably do it before the repeal went into effect.

01:46:31.000 There's just, I just don't see a way around that.

01:46:33.000 They have no liability protection, and they have hundreds of millions of users.

01:46:39.000 And you know Trump will immediately sue, like, to Twitter for every fake news story.

01:46:46.000 And there would be no protection.

01:46:47.000 Now, theoretically, Twitter could try and claim anti-slap defense, but then Twitter has to pay for all of this.

01:46:53.000 For each user?

01:46:54.000 defense for these filings.

01:46:55.000 For each user, that's crazy.

01:46:56.000 No, for each suit, for each lawsuit.

01:46:59.000 So if Trump said, I'm suing Twitter 3,578 times for all of the fake news put out by

01:47:04.000 these lists of journalists, all these individual defamation suits targeting Twitter.

01:47:09.000 Now I'm not saying he'd actually do that, because that's obscene, but it would probably

01:47:12.000 be rolled up into one suit listing all of these as infractions.

01:47:17.000 Everyone would start doing it.

01:47:18.000 Maybe not everybody, but it would be enough for these big companies to be like, we cannot assume that liability.

01:47:23.000 So we are going to put a pause on everything, and then only verified people.

01:47:26.000 I don't know how Twitter would function.

01:47:28.000 Twitter literally is a machine that generates fake news and defamation.

01:47:33.000 That's all it does.

01:47:34.000 Twitter is not telling you any secrets.

01:47:37.000 Twitter is not informing you as to the true realities and nature of this world. 0.96

01:47:40.000 Twitter is a place where political activists go and talk crap about each other.

01:47:43.000 It's the source of cancel culture. 0.99

01:47:45.000 Yes.

01:47:45.000 That's the direct source.

01:47:47.000 Twitter is terrible.

01:47:48.000 Ban Twitter.

01:47:49.000 And all you need is a thousand, two thousand people.

01:47:51.000 Maybe section 230 should be gone.

01:47:53.000 No, because you need... Internet video is good.

01:47:55.000 Internet tax is risky.

01:47:55.000 No, but you'll have your own website.

01:47:57.000 You make your own website.

01:47:57.000 That's what we need.

01:47:58.000 Yeah.

01:47:59.000 Make your own website.

01:48:00.000 Do it anyway.

01:48:01.000 Yep.

01:48:02.000 And then there could theoretically be a workaround for new platforms that could arise without 230 that would bypass this by not restricting in any capacity, any publishing capabilities.

01:48:13.000 There's probably interesting workarounds like a mesh network RSS style feed.

01:48:18.000 They could be like, we didn't publish this.

01:48:19.000 It's on his server, not on ours.

01:48:21.000 It's just, all we do is aggregate links.

01:48:22.000 You can view it for, you can portal into it from ours, but it's on their server.

01:48:26.000 Exactly.

01:48:27.000 We didn't publish this.

01:48:28.000 We're just, you know, showing other people our posting.

01:48:31.000 Right.

01:48:31.000 So that might be a good thing, actually.

01:48:35.000 And then people would still have to sue you, but it would strip away the powers of these big corporations.

01:48:39.000 So that could theoretically work.

01:48:40.000 You could have your own ads that way.

01:48:41.000 And building an ad integration thing would be key to making that function.

01:48:47.000 Gregory Horton says, Stephen Crowder has Mug Club, BlazeTV, Ben Shapiro has Daily Wire, Alex Jones has Infowars, you have SCNR.

01:48:54.000 Don't fear the 2.30 repeal.

01:48:56.000 I think if they repeal 2.30, they're going to let me keep doing my thing because they like me as a... What's the right word?

01:49:04.000 Tepid, milquetoast fencer?

01:49:05.000 Could you give them retention time?

01:49:08.000 But yes, combined with the fact that I don't swear, I don't insult, I for the most part don't insult people. 0.99

01:49:13.000 I sometimes, I think we did a couple times on this show, I call people morons. 0.99

01:49:16.000 But I don't like single out individuals and say this person is dumb. 0.99

01:49:21.000 In fact, even when I'm criticizing people on the left, I usually throw in a couple compliments.

01:49:25.000 Like, I did a video recently about Cenk Uygur's op-ed where he was talking about the three different realities in America, and I said he was wrong, but he's got a few of these things right, so my respect, you know, because he did make some good points.

01:49:35.000 I won't make a video where I just attack somebody and insult them.

01:49:38.000 I always try to keep it, you know, that's why they like me.

01:49:39.000 Your YouTube guy is Lawful Good, and you're forced to talk about, like, chaotic evil things, but you do it from a Lawful Good perspective, so they're really happy.

01:49:48.000 It's hard to argue why my content shouldn't be allowed.

01:49:52.000 It's opinions people don't like, but I don't insult and target or anything like that, you know?

01:49:57.000 Daniel Maxwell says Section 230 needs to be amended to require all companies claiming their protections from it to abide by court interpretations of First Amendment protections and all laws regarding the First Amendment protections.

01:50:07.000 It's actually simple.

01:50:08.000 They need to change the phrase otherwise objectionable into illegal.

01:50:11.000 That's it.

01:50:11.000 Case closed.

01:50:12.000 Okay, not really.

01:50:12.000 There's probably a bunch of other nuance.

01:50:14.000 But they have a provision that allows them to moderate and remove content so long as it's deemed lewd, lascivious, filthy, obscene, or otherwise objectionable.

01:50:22.000 The otherwise objectionable part is where they ban anyone and everyone because they go, well, in my opinion, saying orange man good is offensive because the orange man is in fact bad.

01:50:31.000 Misgendering.

01:50:32.000 Yeah, misgendering, right?

01:50:33.000 Not objectionable to any conservative, but to them it is, so they ban it.

01:50:37.000 Get rid of otherwise objectionable to illegal, and then all of a sudden people can say things like they're only two genders or whatever.

01:50:44.000 Dan Saw says, Hey Tim, just wanted to let you know that the jerky will be sent within the next five or so days.

01:50:50.000 I forgot to ask where.

01:50:51.000 I forgot to ask before if there was anything you or anyone was allergic to.

01:50:55.000 Email me so I know.

01:50:56.000 I didn't realize you were sending us jerky.

01:50:58.000 I did not realize this either.

01:50:59.000 Trent Lamalino says, If you get nuked, I'm done with YouTube and I'll follow you and the gang wherever.

01:51:04.000 I'll donate whatever needed that I can.

01:51:07.000 Your crew is needed.

01:51:07.000 I appreciate it.

01:51:08.000 And I think the one thing we really need to step up on Uh, I mentioned this before, but there are a lot of podcasts that are not top podcasts.

01:51:17.000 We are a top podcast.

01:51:18.000 This is crazy.

01:51:19.000 Uh, this show and my Tim Pool Daily show, we have Tim Pool Daily and Timcast IRL and iTunes and stuff.

01:51:23.000 And these are top little podcasts.

01:51:25.000 Not like number 10 or anything.

01:51:27.000 It's like number 230 and like number 170.

01:51:29.000 So it's still pretty good.

01:51:31.000 But there are shows that are like ranked 500 or 1000, not even the top charts.

01:51:36.000 They don't even register.

01:51:37.000 And these people make millions of dollars.

01:51:39.000 It's really simple.

01:51:40.000 They just have proprietary websites where they say, come to our site, you pay X to hang out, and we give you premium stuff.

01:51:47.000 That's something we don't do.

01:51:48.000 You know, our show relies just on like the YouTube system, and we probably should start producing stuff directly for people who want and like the content.

01:51:56.000 So that's what I just started to do.

01:51:57.000 Cause I was so, when I got demonetized on YouTube all around, I got so scared that they were just going to cut me off completely.

01:52:03.000 What am I going to do?

01:52:04.000 I'm done.

01:52:05.000 So I, I've been working on like my own individual app for just all my content.

01:52:09.000 So I'm going to start promoting that.

01:52:12.000 Um, so this way, like anything I want, I just post it there and I'm going to post like all the uncensored versions.

01:52:16.000 So when I want to talk about, you know, the vaccines and stuff, Hey, that's going to be on the app.

01:52:20.000 What's the app?

01:52:21.000 Do you have a name for it or anything?

01:52:22.000 But you realize, you'll get banned for off-site behavior, right?

01:52:26.000 That's a new thing they're adding?

01:52:27.000 Yeah, I don't know if YouTube does that yet, but I know Twitch does that.

01:52:32.000 And Patreon does that.

01:52:33.000 Yeah.

01:52:34.000 The app actually just came out today, but it's not ready yet.

01:52:38.000 But I'm going to call it America Now News, so this way I can grow it beyond me.

01:52:43.000 Right, right, right.

01:52:44.000 Because I want to bring in new hosts, new writers and stuff.

01:52:48.000 Nice.

01:52:48.000 Right on, man.

01:52:50.000 Ed Caron says the $10 million to Pakistani gender studies is infuriating and all, but what about the $500 million to Israel?

01:52:56.000 First and foremost, why are we giving any money to anyone else when our country is locked down and in full-on panic mode?

01:53:04.000 That makes no sense.

01:53:05.000 But I will say, you can justify military aid to a place like Israel.

01:53:10.000 You can justify it.

01:53:11.000 I'm not saying it's correct.

01:53:12.000 I'm saying there's a legitimate argument and you'll argue with someone.

01:53:14.000 There's no argument for $10 million to package any gender studies.

01:53:17.000 I'm sorry.

01:53:17.000 Like, that can wait, okay?

01:53:19.000 I don't know what their gender studies thing is.

01:53:20.000 You don't need the money.

01:53:21.000 Someone's like, I'll vote yes if you put this in.

01:53:23.000 And then like four other people are like, yeah, we support that.

01:53:25.000 We'll all vote yes if you put that in.

01:53:26.000 Why didn't a Republican just put in Donald Trump on the election?

01:53:29.000 Yeah.

01:53:29.000 Why not?

01:53:30.000 Nobody read it!

01:53:31.000 AOC was railing against how long the bill was, how they don't have time to read it all, it's all long, and then she votes in favor of it. 0.87

01:53:38.000 Meanwhile, her and Ted Cruz are agreeing on a lot of points on that bill.

01:53:42.000 Ted Cruz voted no.

01:53:43.000 Ted Cruz voted no, AOC voted yes, and that's the problem.

01:53:46.000 Josh Hawley, Republican, also complained on Twitter, and then voted for it anyway.

01:53:49.000 Oh my god.

01:53:50.000 Yeah, it was an excuse, but people need the money for the holidays, you know?

01:53:54.000 Let's see.

01:53:55.000 Nicholas Bowling Show says 100% disagree, Tim.

01:53:57.000 They are already unfairly banning conservatives.

01:54:01.000 230 doesn't protect us.

01:54:02.000 Hey, Joey, I interviewed you for my site, remember?

01:54:05.000 Nicholas Bowling Show.

01:54:06.000 Yeah, I remember.

01:54:07.000 So, uh, that's actually a good point, you know?

01:54:09.000 I guess conservatives who have already been banned and can't have channels are like, why would I care?

01:54:14.000 Nuke the whole thing.

01:54:15.000 Well, you got to think outside yourself.

01:54:18.000 You know, there's a greater good.

01:54:20.000 You know, I know that.

01:54:21.000 The argument is, if they can't be on it, shut it down because it's unfair.

01:54:24.000 Vengeance is a real feeling.

01:54:26.000 It's not vengeance.

01:54:26.000 It's if you get rid of it, it levels the playing field.

01:54:28.000 Screw them.

01:54:29.000 Level the playing field.

01:54:31.000 I understand the one and two.

01:54:32.000 Yeah.

01:54:33.000 But the most powerful person tends to dominate a level playing field.

01:54:37.000 Rational Redneck says, what would the repeal of Section 230 mean for sites like BitChute? 1.00

01:54:42.000 It would mean that BitChute is personally responsible for all content posted on its site because they would now be treated like a newspaper making the statement themselves. 0.98

01:54:51.000 Do they host content, or is it all torrented between... How does that... How does BitChute function? 1.00

01:54:55.000 Well, I think it's torrented.

01:54:56.000 So maybe they would argue we don't actually host it.

01:54:58.000 That's awesome.

01:54:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:55:00.000 Maybe they would be fine.

01:55:02.000 Mr. Stantastic says, Ian, don't get enough credit.

01:55:05.000 Lids is great as well.

01:55:06.000 As you, Tim, first super chat, but I've had a beer and need to listen to y'all later.

01:55:10.000 Thanks for what you do.

01:55:11.000 Appreciate it.

01:55:11.000 Homie, what up?

01:55:13.000 Don't forget Joey Salads while we're at it.

01:55:15.000 Joey Saladino.

01:55:16.000 Joey Saladino.

01:55:18.000 Lorenzo Garcia says CNN apparently just released Trump's budget demands, and they're similar to the original proposal.

01:55:23.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:55:24.000 I don't know a whole lot about it, but I think the issue is budget demands are different from using the COVID stimulus as a hostage.

01:55:31.000 Like, you know, using the American people as a hostage, basically.

01:55:33.000 You have to vote for this, otherwise the people won't get their $600, which they can't do anything with because it's a pittance.

01:55:38.000 Is it taxable, too?

01:55:40.000 No, probably not.

01:55:41.000 Unemployment insurance is taxed.

01:55:43.000 I told my girlfriend, my girlfriend, she never collected and she's like unemployed because of lockdown. 1.00

01:55:48.000 So she's going to get a fat check from all the backup from California, then from this.

01:55:53.000 And I told her like, you know, since she doesn't really need it like urgently, I'm going to help her like invest it to like flip it.

01:55:59.000 Smart.

01:56:01.000 Investments have been popping off lately.

01:56:03.000 I'm investing in all the companies that support lockdowns.

01:56:07.000 I'm investing in all the companies that support Biden, because those are the ones that are going to survive.

01:56:11.000 Yeah, I'm invested in some military tech.

01:56:13.000 I got into BlackRock because of you.

01:56:14.000 They're super cheap.

01:56:15.000 Oh, really?

01:56:16.000 Cause I heard him talk about it.

01:56:17.000 They're investing in China.

01:56:19.000 Oh, you were saying, well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:56:21.000 Investing in, in what, like things that you think are going to go up because of the current politics.

01:56:26.000 Yeah.

01:56:26.000 So how were you talking about corporate America pretty much taken over?

01:56:29.000 Like, Hey, just fight Palantir.

01:56:30.000 As much as we, I don't want it to happen as much as I don't want McDonald's and you know, Apple and Amazon to take over the world.

01:56:37.000 Like it's a way I can't do anything to stop it.

01:56:40.000 So if it's going to happen, I might as well ride the wave.

01:56:42.000 No, I disagree, dude.

01:56:43.000 I was like, I want to invest in people I believe in.

01:56:46.000 Who do I invest in when I'm already in Tesla?

01:56:48.000 You buy stock in it, you'll get some say.

01:56:49.000 I was like, maybe if everybody did, you could be like, shut her down.

01:56:52.000 I was like, I want to invest in people I believe in.

01:56:54.000 Who do I invest in?

01:56:55.000 I'm already in Tesla.

01:56:56.000 I was like, I want to invest in Tim, but I am with my energy.

01:56:59.000 Like we're creating a network.

01:57:00.000 Wait, hold on, hold on.

01:57:01.000 I just got an idea.

01:57:02.000 Like, do you think enough Americans could come together and buy enough shares and pool

01:57:05.000 their shares to actually like shut down a company like Amazon?

01:57:09.000 I thought about doing that with Google.

01:57:10.000 I'm like, maybe if I get enough money one day, I can just buy enough shares of Google to the point where I tell them they have to remonetize my pages.

01:57:16.000 I think that's a hostile takeover.

01:57:18.000 It's a tech.

01:57:19.000 They used to do that a lot.

01:57:20.000 Imagine if like everybody bought one share of a big company and then collectively voted.

01:57:26.000 You'd have like a massive portion of this company publicly controlled and they'd have to do what the shareholders wanted.

01:57:31.000 Maybe that's like a way to make change, you know?

01:57:33.000 Yeah, you start like a collective firm that does it.

01:57:35.000 Yeah.

01:57:36.000 That's really cool.

01:57:37.000 MRT Fortune says, with the steel tariffs, it doubled the price of materials for a small manufacturing company I worked at.

01:57:44.000 It seems similar to the minimum wage debate.

01:57:45.000 This is interesting because I'm talking to a steel building company.

01:57:49.000 It's actually not that expensive to get a big steel building and we want to do it so that we can have a place to film and have different sets.

01:57:55.000 And they told me today that they're like, we can't give you a quote right now because the price of steel is about to go way up.

01:58:01.000 Maybe we should just look into graphene.

01:58:02.000 It's lighter.

01:58:03.000 You can't build a graphene building.

01:58:05.000 You might be able to now.

01:58:06.000 It's lighter than steel, too.

01:58:08.000 You know what's interesting?

01:58:08.000 We have these graphene composite batteries I bought for everybody.

01:58:11.000 Because, like, Ian, you talk about graphene all the time.

01:58:13.000 So, I was like, Christmas is coming up, and I looked up graphene products, and they have these batteries.

01:58:18.000 This is crazy stuff, dude.

01:58:19.000 They hold, like, two and a half cell phone charges, and they charge in about 15 minutes.

01:58:22.000 Wow.

01:58:23.000 You can... So, like, let's say you forget to charge your phone.

01:58:25.000 You're like, oh man, you take the battery, you plug it in, 15 minutes later you grab it, walk out the door, and it's got two full charges in it.

01:58:30.000 That's nuts.

01:58:31.000 That's crazy.

01:58:32.000 That's graphene, dude.

01:58:33.000 So, that's where we're at so far.

01:58:35.000 I tried looking up how the battery works and it's like too new, I guess.

01:58:37.000 It's a super capacitor and a... It's a conductor and a capacitor.

01:58:43.000 So it can send current and store current.

01:58:46.000 So it's like a battery and a wire at the same time.

01:58:51.000 PM says, they hate us because they ain't us.

01:58:57.000 Marissa says, thanks Tim, I meant to give $10, so I'm adding this to the other super chat.

01:59:00.000 I hate the Dems, love Staten Island.

01:59:02.000 There you go.

01:59:03.000 Shout out to Staten Island.

01:59:03.000 Love Staten Island.

01:59:05.000 Charlotte Jerd, or Jerday, says, my daughter applied to McD's for her first job.

01:59:10.000 They told her she will start at $10 an hour for the first three months.

01:59:13.000 After that, her pay will be performance-based.

01:59:15.000 That's their loophole to get out of $10 an hour.

01:59:19.000 Really?

01:59:19.000 But they're paying her $10 an hour.

01:59:21.000 Let's see, Daniel J. Korica says, Long Island for statehood.

01:59:26.000 I, too, am sick of my taxes going to New York City.

01:59:28.000 Would Long Island be Republican?

01:59:31.000 Yeah.

01:59:31.000 You think so?

01:59:31.000 I think all of Long Island, I'm pretty sure, voted Republican.

01:59:35.000 Besides, like, maybe one part.

01:59:38.000 The Hamptons.

01:59:38.000 Is that Republican?

01:59:39.000 Seems like a lot of race Democrats.

01:59:40.000 I think so.

01:59:41.000 You can definitely pull up the map.

01:59:42.000 I'm pretty sure it was, like, all red when I looked at the map.

01:59:44.000 That's including Brooklyn and Queens?

01:59:46.000 That part was blue.

01:59:48.000 But they didn't outweigh the rest?

01:59:51.000 I'm sure that population probably does outweigh Long Island.

01:59:54.000 That's the problem with Staten Island.

01:59:55.000 Staten Island's a very small borough population, comparatively.

01:59:59.000 So we have no say, basically, in the mayor.

02:00:03.000 Zero say.

02:00:04.000 Neon Light says, I currently live in New York and it's getting insane here.

02:00:07.000 So far.

02:00:08.000 I live around the Finger Lakes, yet every rural area around me is forced to live by NYC rules.

02:00:15.000 NYC should not be a part of Upstate.

02:00:17.000 And that's what I remember you saying on one of your episodes, which I agree with and I've been saying forever.

02:00:22.000 It's that, you know, I got the rural areas and you know.

02:00:25.000 You know, like New York City has all the voting power, and then you go to some other area, and they operate completely differently.

02:00:31.000 But now they're forced to follow those rules.

02:00:33.000 Think about how insane it is.

02:00:34.000 Look, I get it if a city like Baltimore is like, we got a problem with guns, so we're gonna have some strict laws.

02:00:39.000 And not having those laws apply to people who live in Western Maryland, who live in the middle of the woods.

02:00:44.000 And what happens when 30 to 50 feral hogs come crashing on your property, but the state doesn't allow you to have guns because of what's happening in Baltimore?

02:00:51.000 These kind of things don't make sense.

02:00:52.000 It doesn't make sense.

02:00:53.000 We gotta break up New York.

02:00:55.000 We should break up the country.

02:00:58.000 L.A.

02:00:58.000 has got multiple governors for their borough areas, like the different counties.

02:01:02.000 I don't mean the different countries, by the way.

02:01:03.000 I mean different areas broken up into different areas.

02:01:06.000 Beverly Hills has their own thing.

02:01:08.000 I don't think they have a mayor, but they don't follow L.A.

02:01:11.000 They kind of do their own thing.

02:01:13.000 L.A.

02:01:13.000 County, and then there's a bunch of counties within Los Angeles proper.

02:01:17.000 Cities should be- these big cities should be separated from the states they're in.

02:01:20.000 Yeah.

02:01:21.000 Watch the rules change overnight.

02:01:23.000 Illinois becomes a red state.

02:01:24.000 Well, they wouldn't let it happen because everybody would leave the cities.

02:01:27.000 Like, we gotta get- They'd live in the red areas and work in the blue areas.

02:01:30.000 There's no reason for one guy to have the power that Blasio's got.

02:01:33.000 Yep.

02:01:34.000 It's just too many people.

02:01:35.000 18 million people?

02:01:36.000 Well, no, the issue is he doesn't have the power.

02:01:38.000 People just give it to him. 0.97

02:01:38.000 He's just given ridiculous edicts. 0.97

02:01:40.000 He's not given the power to do this. 0.97

02:01:41.000 The cops just obey him.

02:01:43.000 Because they don't know what else they want.

02:01:44.000 They need their money. 0.98

02:01:45.000 No, no, it's because the officers that obey the unconstitutional orders of de Blasio are obsessed with suckling his teats. 0.97

02:01:51.000 So they love... And they hate each other at the same time. 0.95

02:01:54.000 No, no, no, no.

02:01:54.000 The officers that follow the unconstitutional edicts, like when de Blasio painted Black Lives Matter illegally in the street, those cops that went down to guard it are just in love with de Blasio.

02:02:04.000 They're just doing it for the money. 0.92

02:02:05.000 And they love licking his feet. 0.82

02:02:06.000 You should have arrested de Blasio for vandalism right then and there.

02:02:09.000 Well, he stole taxpayer money to do it, and then 27 cops came out and they were like- During a pandemic.

02:02:13.000 During a pandemic.

02:02:14.000 Everyone has to wear a mask and shut their businesses down.

02:02:16.000 And then 27 NYPD cops were like, the smart thing for me to do is to obey this man.

02:02:19.000 Right. 0.98

02:02:20.000 Instead of saying, I'm not gonna guard that, are you nuts?

02:02:22.000 It's like we, we did, we bent over back for the police. 0.80

02:02:27.000 You know what, you know what?

02:02:29.000 Yep.

02:02:29.000 So, the important point you brought up is that the cops who are screwing with this bar, there was NYPD there, but now de Blasio's like, I'm gonna bring in the sheriffs because the NYPD doesn't want to do it.

02:02:39.000 And I am not saying all cops.

02:02:41.000 I'm saying clearly there are cops in big cities run by Democrats who don't care.

02:02:46.000 And you know why?

02:02:46.000 It's really obvious.

02:02:47.000 Everybody lost their jobs.

02:02:48.000 Honestly, the NYPD should arrest the sheriffs for violating the Constitution.

02:02:52.000 But listen, listen.

02:02:53.000 Just do it.

02:02:53.000 You have people, cops in New York, and they're going around seeing everyone destitute, like suffering, and losing their money, and they're like, I have a job.

02:03:02.000 At least I'm safe.

02:03:03.000 And then de Blasio's basically like, I want you to oppress people and destroy their lives.

02:03:08.000 And the cop goes, better them than me.

02:03:10.000 And so they just give him- Now put on this white armor.

02:03:13.000 Now bow to the emperor.

02:03:14.000 It's like how a lot of, I don't want to say the N-word, not the bad N-word, but the German N-word, German N-word?

02:03:21.000 National Socialist!

02:03:23.000 Stormtrooper, that's what I was gonna say.

02:03:28.000 I think I already said Nazi on the show.

02:03:29.000 As long as you don't call people Nazis, you can talk about it. 0.88

02:03:34.000 But, I mean, there was a lot of Nazis that were just doing it, just because they don't want to be on the other end.

02:03:39.000 I read that there were Jewish Nazis, like Jewish guards, who were like, if they find out, so I'll just go along with it, because they were scared. 0.95

02:03:46.000 Dang.

02:03:47.000 And you know what?

02:03:47.000 People have been telling me that because I made a post on my personal Facebook and I talked to my, you know, just my Staten Island friends and I would say like, dear law enforcement, we bent over back for you.

02:03:56.000 Please do not enforce these orders.

02:03:58.000 And some people are like, oh, they're just following orders.

02:04:02.000 It's not their fault.

02:04:03.000 That's even worse.

02:04:04.000 That's even worse.

02:04:05.000 I'm like, they took an oath to uphold the Constitution.

02:04:07.000 We're the ones paying them.

02:04:08.000 We're the ones that defended them.

02:04:09.000 You don't want to see it.

02:04:10.000 De Blasio and Cuomo only have the power that they are given.

02:04:14.000 By, I guess, us and then the police.

02:04:16.000 No, no, no, by the police.

02:04:18.000 Michael Malice said this on the show.

02:04:20.000 That all of these illegal acts, all of these unconstitutional laws,

02:04:22.000 are letters to Santa without the men and women in uniform

02:04:26.000 willing to enforce against the Constitution.

02:04:28.000 You know what I'd love to see?

02:04:30.000 NYPD walking up to these sheriffs at that bar, Max's or whatever,

02:04:34.000 and just taking the, like, three NYPD guys, grab the sheriff,

02:04:38.000 and put your hands behind your back, you're under arrest.

02:04:39.000 That's what needs to happen.

02:04:40.000 You don't live here.

02:04:41.000 We live here.

02:04:42.000 These cops live in Staten Island.

02:04:43.000 Why would they let them come to their home? 0.97

02:04:46.000 I'll tell you this, man.

02:04:46.000 Could you imagine these NYPD cops who are either sitting back and doing nothing, or enforcing this?

02:04:52.000 Imagine if that was the caliber of young man we had during World War II.

02:04:57.000 They'd be like, they'd land on the beaches of Normandy and be like, look, man, you know, I'm just going to side with the people who are here because they're the ones in power.

02:05:03.000 I'm not going to fight to free people.

02:05:05.000 What we need people to stand up and say, I live here.

02:05:07.000 Get the out of my home.

02:05:09.000 What we need to do is publicly, I guess, privately fund the good officers.

02:05:15.000 Yeah.

02:05:15.000 Because if they're worried about losing their job, that's illegal crowdfunding.

02:05:18.000 But yeah, if they're worried about losing their job and getting their pay cut, it's like, hey, you know, let's all build up this fund.

02:05:24.000 If you're worried about that, if you lose your pension, if you lose this, let's take it out of this fund.

02:05:28.000 Like, you're good.

02:05:29.000 You're secure.

02:05:29.000 We're creating a new police department.

02:05:31.000 Like a charity fund?

02:05:33.000 We could do a global charity fund.

02:05:34.000 We're creating our own government.

02:05:35.000 Here's what I'm advocating for.

02:05:36.000 Here's what I'm saying.

02:05:37.000 The police should arrest criminals.

02:05:39.000 Yep.

02:05:39.000 Does that sound crazy?

02:05:40.000 Well, if it's a bad law, yeah, you don't want them arresting people that are defying bad laws.

02:05:45.000 I didn't say people defying bad laws.

02:05:46.000 I said criminals.

02:05:47.000 Crime doesn't make you bad.

02:05:48.000 Like, if it's a bad law, you want to become a criminal to fight against the bad law.

02:05:52.000 You're misunderstanding.

02:05:53.000 I didn't say cops should arrest people who break the law.

02:05:55.000 I said cops should arrest Well, if you say everyone has to go out and punch people and I say I'm not gonna do it, then I become a criminal on that law.

02:06:02.000 No, you're reading too much into it for no reason.

02:06:04.000 I'm saying that law and count— What I'm saying is when the sheriff shows up and illegally detains someone, that's called kidnapping.

02:06:11.000 And they have no constitutional authority or statutory authority to do it just because de Blasio said so.

02:06:15.000 It is then incumbent upon NYPD to say, you are under arrest for kidnapping.

02:06:20.000 For some crime, yeah.

02:06:23.000 I think they should uphold that kind of crime.

02:06:24.000 That's literal crime.

02:06:26.000 The law says they can't do it, and they're doing it anyway.

02:06:28.000 They need to be arrested.

02:06:29.000 But if you make a law that says that you can't do something you need to do, then you have to become a criminal.

02:06:34.000 We're not talking about made-up laws.

02:06:35.000 You just said police should go arrest criminals.

02:06:37.000 We're not talking about some new law that was just made because de Blasio didn't pass any laws.

02:06:41.000 I'm just saying crime isn't the benchmark of whether or not you should be destroyed.

02:06:45.000 I get what both of you guys are saying.

02:06:47.000 Because you're saying that criminality is based on the laws that were made, right?

02:06:52.000 Yes.

02:06:52.000 So, like, being a criminal is defined by the law.

02:06:56.000 But I get what you're saying at the same exact time, where de Blasio and these sheriffs are also breaking the law.

02:07:01.000 Yes.

02:07:01.000 The police should go and arrest criminals.

02:07:03.000 And I agree with you.

02:07:03.000 You're both right at the same time.

02:07:04.000 Well, they should arrest those criminals.

02:07:06.000 They should arrest criminals.

02:07:07.000 Not all criminals.

02:07:08.000 Why not?

02:07:09.000 Because some laws are bad, and those people shouldn't be criminals.

02:07:11.000 How about this?

02:07:12.000 Constitutional law.

02:07:13.000 I mean, I don't think non-violent drug offenders should be arrested personally.

02:07:17.000 Not marijuana.

02:07:18.000 I mean, you know, just because you say marijuana is illegal doesn't mean that you should go arrest them all.

02:07:22.000 It's a bad law.

02:07:22.000 It shouldn't have been made.

02:07:24.000 It is a bad law.

02:07:25.000 They should be arrested.

02:07:25.000 They should sue and the law should be overturned.

02:07:27.000 But it destroys people's lives to get arrested and waste their time.

02:07:30.000 Dude, having an argument about what you think is morally correct is not the point.

02:07:33.000 The point is, the sheriffs are coming in and breaking the law. 0.97

02:07:36.000 There's statutory law being broken by these sheriffs and by some NYPD, and there's spineless, pathetic, and terrified whiny baby cops who won't do anything about it. 0.89

02:07:46.000 I agree, but it's dangerous to say cops should arrest anyone that's breaking the law. 0.87

02:07:51.000 That's- Cops should arrest people who break the law.

02:07:53.000 Because some laws are not right.

02:07:55.000 So we gotta be careful about encouraging- Yeah, that's what courts are for.

02:07:58.000 Yeah, but you don't want to go disrupt everybody- And then you go to a Democrat court and they like, go for like- Bro, you can't- you can't argue that some cops have the discretion not to arrest people breaking the law because then you're gonna have a cop who- who helps and protects his friends.

02:08:08.000 The law has to be upheld.

02:08:10.000 We're a nation of laws.

02:08:11.000 If laws are not enforced, then what do we have?

02:08:12.000 I'm getting this because I told him he was lawful good.

02:08:14.000 Okay, you're neutral good.

02:08:16.000 It's a Dungeons & Dragons thing.

02:08:17.000 Think about all the Democrats who are like, we should- we should decriminalize border crossings.

02:08:21.000 They shouldn't arrest these people.

02:08:22.000 They literally committed a crime.

02:08:25.000 And just because you don't agree doesn't mean I have to live by your rules.

02:08:29.000 If we vote for people and laws are passed, we deal with ramifications of that.

02:08:33.000 If eventually we find out the laws are bad, we change those.

02:08:36.000 Marijuana is now slowly being legalized as people start to realize.

02:08:39.000 And yes, Trump should pardon non-violent drug offenders.

02:08:42.000 Those who are literally non-violent, not anybody who pled down, pleaded down.

02:08:45.000 The point is in New York City, when an NYPD cop or a sheriff breaks the law, they need to be arrested.

02:08:51.000 Or they fail to uphold their constitutional oath.

02:08:54.000 No, they get fired for. That's not a crime.

02:08:57.000 But I mean, who's going to fire them? The mayor's not going to fire them.

02:09:00.000 And who's going to arrest the cops committing crimes?

02:09:02.000 Should be the good cops.

02:09:03.000 I don't care who you are, if you commit a crime, you get arrested.

02:09:06.000 Okay?

02:09:06.000 And that includes activists who are protesting peacefully in the state all the time.

02:09:09.000 Non-violent civil disobedience is the best, most effective way to get change.

02:09:13.000 It works.

02:09:14.000 We've seen it work.

02:09:14.000 It worked with civil rights.

02:09:16.000 And riots sour people to your cause, but you get arrested and you deal with the results of challenging the system.

02:09:23.000 There is a cost to challenging the system.

02:09:26.000 So should the FBI be the ones that are arresting cops that are violating the Constitution?

02:09:30.000 The FBI doesn't do that.

02:09:32.000 FBI handles federal crimes.

02:09:34.000 I saw a video online of a cop arresting another cop.

02:09:36.000 Yeah.

02:09:38.000 Right then and there.

02:09:39.000 Maybe the cop was doing a little too much.

02:09:41.000 I don't know.

02:09:42.000 I just saw the quick clip.

02:09:43.000 They immediately took him and they arrested the cop.

02:09:46.000 Were they both on duty?

02:09:47.000 Yeah, they were both on duty cops, and I think they might have been working the same exact thing.

02:09:51.000 Let me put it this way.

02:09:52.000 If I'm in New York, and some guy walks up to me, and grabs me, and throws me to the ground, and pins my arm behind my back, for no reason, that's assault and battery.

02:10:03.000 So, a cop should come and arrest that person.

02:10:04.000 I don't care what they're wearing.

02:10:06.000 I don't care if they're wearing a badge.

02:10:07.000 Now, the issue with a cop arresting you is different, because we as a community bestow authority upon people under the ideal that they're going to be stopping criminals.

02:10:18.000 Now, a lot of police forces have citations and fines and quota systems, and that's all bunk BS, for sure.

02:10:23.000 We can argue that.

02:10:25.000 But if I am doing everything legally, and I'm running my business, and some random guy comes in, and blocks the door, and won't let anybody in, or takes my customers, and, like, detains them, kidnaps them, takes them in their car, you gotta arrest that person.

02:10:40.000 Could you imagine if someone went to your business, and then just, like, grabbed the clerk, and threw him in a car, and drove off?

02:10:45.000 You'd be like, whoa!

02:10:47.000 Under no statutory or constitutional authority did that person do that.

02:10:51.000 I don't care if they're wearing a badge.

02:10:52.000 Here's another takeaway from everything going on right now.

02:10:55.000 There's no constitutional enforcement from the federal government to the states.

02:10:59.000 Trump can invoke the Insurrection Act because of this.

02:11:02.000 He should have done this six months ago.

02:11:03.000 Specifically, in the Insurrection Act, it says if people's constitutional rights are being deprived, he can send in the military to protect their rights.

02:11:09.000 I think he should.

02:11:10.000 I mean, he's not running for re-election anymore.

02:11:12.000 I was hoping that Trump was going to win and then immediately do the insurrection act and arrest Cuomo, arrest de Blasio.

02:11:18.000 He doesn't even need to arrest him.

02:11:20.000 He could send in the military to New York and reinstate people's lives.

02:11:23.000 That's what needs that.

02:11:23.000 He should just do that right now.

02:11:25.000 Just political willpower.

02:11:27.000 Yeah.

02:11:27.000 Trump could do it.

02:11:28.000 Yeah.

02:11:29.000 That's what America needs right now.

02:11:31.000 You know, it's funny because people are calling for Trump to invoke martial law and you've got like his most ardent supporters and the left is saying, you know, he can't do that or whatever.

02:11:40.000 We're already under martial law.

02:11:42.000 Martial law means military law, so not literally, but we are under totalitarian... Listen, there's constitutional authority and there's statutory law.

02:11:51.000 Statutory law are things that are passed by a legislative body.

02:11:54.000 Constitutional authority is based on what the constitution of your state or the federal government gives you.

02:11:59.000 Under neither of these, Cuomo, Wolf, Newsom, Whitmer have done things they're not allowed to do.

02:12:06.000 And the Supreme Court has said of the United States, you can't do that. So you know what they do?

02:12:10.000 Okay, this executive order has been disturbed by the Supreme Court. I'll issue the exact same one now.

02:12:15.000 Literally the exact same?

02:12:17.000 Like they'll change some words or use some alternate arguments to do the exact same thing.

02:12:21.000 That sounds felonious.

02:12:22.000 It sounds dictatorial, despotic, psychotic, and in violation of law.

02:12:26.000 And Trump could invoke the Insurrection Act because they keep doing it.

02:12:29.000 The one thing I learned from all of this, there's a reason why we have the Constitution and there's a reason why the founding fathers put the number two in there.

02:12:38.000 I don't like to say it.

02:12:39.000 I don't like to think it.

02:12:40.000 I don't want it to happen.

02:12:41.000 But you don't need to bring it up.

02:12:43.000 Trump's the president.

02:12:43.000 The problem isn't what the people are doing.

02:12:46.000 Right now, they elected Trump.

02:12:47.000 They elected Trump to solve these problems, and the people who are stomping on the rights of individuals could be stopped by the president right now.

02:12:55.000 They could also be stopped by us.

02:12:57.000 That's a whole other conversation. I don't want like that to happen, but it just seems like

02:13:01.000 That would be at right now this point in time. There seems to be nothing happening from the federal government or from

02:13:07.000 trump And that I mean, yeah, it could be up to us. They're

02:13:10.000 destroying economics They're not like stealing people's children at night

02:13:13.000 If the cops were coming in and taking people's kids in the middle of the night, you'd probably see people

02:13:17.000 Enforcing their their second amendment. I don't know. I don't think so. You don't

02:13:21.000 The James Younger case.

02:13:23.000 The James Younger case.

02:13:25.000 A man's son has been essentially taken from him and the courts ruled that the child will undergo gender reassignment therapy.

02:13:33.000 If a father wouldn't rise up in defiance of the government after his son was taken in that way, then I really don't see the political... The problem is Republicans were way more peaceful than the left.

02:13:45.000 If we were as violent as the left, none of this would be happening.

02:13:48.000 That's a scary thing.

02:13:49.000 Yeah.

02:13:49.000 And, you know, the lockdown protests against Whitmer from months ago.

02:13:52.000 We had tens of thousands of Americans show up peacefully with guns, and what happened?

02:13:57.000 She extended the lockdowns.

02:13:58.000 People with guns.

02:13:59.000 And that's it.

02:13:59.000 And people just went home.

02:14:00.000 That was it.

02:14:00.000 Then they went home.

02:14:01.000 It's like, oh, because Republicans, we want to do everything legally in the courts.

02:14:04.000 Because Republicans want to be left alone.

02:14:06.000 Yeah, we just want to be left alone.

02:14:07.000 I appeal to the president, Donald, please enforce.

02:14:10.000 You think you should invoke the insurrection act?

02:14:11.000 I think you should protect our economy at all costs from these psychotic rogues.

02:14:14.000 Especially at the rate things are going right now.

02:14:16.000 If you're not going to win the election, what do you got to lose?

02:14:19.000 It's kind of crazy that it's a slow boil, we're frogs in a pot, the economy is destroyed, these leftists have no idea how debt-to-GDP works, how money printing works, how modern monetary policy works, anything like this!

02:14:34.000 And they advocate for things that make no sense, like deficit spending to pay for healthcare.

02:14:37.000 It's like, all you're doing is stripping away the savings of people.

02:14:40.000 Like, it makes it so that nobody should save anything ever, but then of course they use that and say, well, you have no savings, we should have government, you know, mandated spending, you know, and buying of the resources you need.

02:14:51.000 With these Democrat states destroying the economy, we get this $600 COVID package.

02:14:56.000 That $900 billion deal attached to a total of $2.3 billion omnibus spending for ridiculous things like Pakistani gender studies shows you the system is corrupt, and Trump isn't fixing it. 0.52

02:15:11.000 That's it.

02:15:12.000 Trump apparently submitted a budget request that was similar to the omnibus.

02:15:15.000 So people are mentioning in the super chat whether it's true or not.

02:15:18.000 What does Trump come out and do?

02:15:19.000 What does Trump come out and do?

02:15:21.000 He says triple it.

02:15:23.000 Trump didn't say, re-open the economy now.

02:15:25.000 I will not sign this relief bill until there's a mandate for the states to re-open their economies and protect small businesses.

02:15:30.000 Throw more money at it.

02:15:31.000 Exactly.

02:15:32.000 He said, triple it.

02:15:33.000 And Democrats, see what they said?

02:15:35.000 They said, much obliged.

02:15:36.000 Absolutely, Trump.

02:15:39.000 Being a Republican, in one way, is kind of a double-edged sword versus being a Democrat.

02:15:42.000 And the Democrats' worldview of fixing it They can just come in and, like what the dictators are doing, these governors. 0.69

02:15:49.000 Oh, I want this done.

02:15:50.000 Oh, here's an order.

02:15:52.000 Blink, it's done.

02:15:53.000 Even though it's unconstitutional, it's tyrannical, it's illegal.

02:15:55.000 With Republicans, on the other hand, if they want to fix something, we don't act like, for the most part, we don't act like dictators to get something done and fix it.

02:16:03.000 We don't have to go this process, that process, and this pushback, and that, then you got to play the game and do all this.

02:16:07.000 Whereas if it was a Democrat, here's a bill, sign it, tyrannical, done.

02:16:11.000 Right.

02:16:12.000 Legislating what you want.

02:16:14.000 I think about that with gun control.

02:16:15.000 Like just saying it's illegal all of a sudden while people are at home printing their guns.

02:16:18.000 Like you can't enforce that law. 0.97

02:16:20.000 You look like a mockery. 0.96

02:16:22.000 Donald Trump vetoed the NDAA. 0.95

02:16:24.000 In it is an amendment that would take away his ability to, it would curtail his ability to invoke the Insurrection Act.

02:16:31.000 He would require the Secretary of Defense and himself to sign off and provide reasonable certification to Congress to approve.

02:16:39.000 Otherwise, he would not be able to invoke the Insurrection Act.

02:16:41.000 So think about it this way.

02:16:43.000 One of the provisions of the Insurrection Act is to enforce the constitutional rights of the citizens of the state.

02:16:48.000 New York is in violation of that, numerous times, blocking people from going to churches and things of that nature.

02:16:56.000 Los Angeles is shutting off people's water and electricity for exercising their First Amendment right.

02:17:03.000 Mitch McConnell on the 29th is going to convene the Senate to override Trump's veto.

02:17:08.000 When that happens, Trump will lose the ability to invoke the Insurrection Act.

02:17:12.000 If Trump would do it, he has five more days.

02:17:17.000 That's it.

02:17:17.000 Four more days, probably, to do it before they override his veto.

02:17:21.000 Who do you have to send in? 0.99

02:17:22.000 The National Guard?

02:17:23.000 Military or National Guard.

02:17:24.000 Federalized, National Guard or the military.

02:17:26.000 I worry that if this sets a precedent, and that gets done, and what if Biden comes in and wants to ban guns nationwide?

02:17:34.000 No, the Second Amendment, that would be in defiance of the Constitution.

02:17:38.000 But, I mean, what we're seeing is these police officers don't care.

02:17:42.000 They're doing it.

02:17:43.000 But with the military, I think it's a little bit different.

02:17:44.000 The military, I don't think would, well, we'll see.

02:17:47.000 You know, like, I never thought I would see Law enforcement arrest people for not wearing a mask.

02:17:54.000 I never did.

02:17:54.000 I've had experience with it.

02:17:57.000 Not here.

02:17:57.000 That's what they used to say.

02:17:58.000 It'll never happen here.

02:17:59.000 It makes us think the military is not going to go door to door.

02:18:02.000 They will.

02:18:02.000 Right before lockdown started, I did an interview with an NYPD officer, and I was telling him about the whole lockdowns.

02:18:10.000 I'm like, I was saying, there's no way in hell that this will ever be enforced.

02:18:15.000 And this was before all this happened.

02:18:16.000 And he said to me, You'll be surprised.

02:18:19.000 I did not believe him.

02:18:20.000 I refused to believe him.

02:18:22.000 And then a month later... I've been to enough countries, I've been to enough protests, and I've seen enough action from police to know that many of these people just don't care.

02:18:32.000 Now, I don't think all cops are bad.

02:18:34.000 You know, the left uses a worse word than that.

02:18:36.000 1312 or whatever.

02:18:37.000 ACAB.

02:18:38.000 I think there are a lot of bad cops, and I think we need police reform.

02:18:42.000 And I think there are a lot of good cops.

02:18:43.000 And they tend to be smaller cities, they tend to be more rural, and they tend to be conservative.

02:18:48.000 It's the big city cops who will, you know, beat you over the head and say, I don't care.

02:18:52.000 You're right, we need to fund them.

02:18:54.000 The people that are violating the orders.

02:18:56.000 Because if they lose their job, that's it, you know, for them.

02:18:59.000 But if we have a charity that's making sure they're going to get paid regardless, then there's incentive to do the right thing.

02:19:03.000 You should start it, Tim.

02:19:04.000 Nah, I don't know about that.

02:19:05.000 Hire someone to start it.

02:19:06.000 You know, people get mad at me because they think I'm gonna be some, like, leader.

02:19:10.000 I'll start it.

02:19:10.000 I'll start it, and then I'll pay you to promote it as a sponsorship.

02:19:13.000 People, like, Trump supporters are mad, saying, like, everyone's gotta be on the front lines of this fight, and going out, showing up in D.C.

02:19:19.000 on the 6th, and I'm like, I might go to D.C.

02:19:21.000 I don't know if I'm gonna.

02:19:22.000 I think people got tired of all these lockdown protests now.

02:19:25.000 Well, the 6th isn't a lockdown protest.

02:19:27.000 The sixth is the overturning the election for Trump protest.

02:19:31.000 So they're saying everyone has to go there.

02:19:32.000 And I'm like, bro, I'm not a leader.

02:19:34.000 I'm not a part of your tribe.

02:19:36.000 I'm a dude who complains on the internet.

02:19:37.000 And I will always be that.

02:19:39.000 And I'm not going to rally or rabble or tell anybody what they should or shouldn't do.

02:19:42.000 I'll tell you what I think, what I want to happen.

02:19:44.000 And you do your thing.

02:19:45.000 You make your own opinions.

02:19:45.000 His drone war and escalation and his lack of leadership on Assange has really kind of soured me to Donald.

02:19:53.000 What's his lack of leadership on Assange?

02:19:54.000 He's just not doing anything about it.

02:19:55.000 He keeps saying like, um, I'm considering, that was like last week and now this week he's announced he's still, he's considering it again.

02:20:01.000 He instructed the, uh, Ecuadorian embassy, the raid on the Ecuadorian embassy.

02:20:04.000 That's, that's leadership.

02:20:05.000 Not, not what we want though.

02:20:07.000 Not the right leadership.

02:20:08.000 Right.

02:20:08.000 So he certainly made a decision, pull Assange out of the embassy and now we've yet to see him pardon Assange.

02:20:13.000 It's all about pardoning the guy.

02:20:14.000 Like Daniel Ellsberg.

02:20:16.000 He revealed the war atrocities.

02:20:19.000 Julian Assange didn't commit any crime.

02:20:22.000 He's just being effectively detained for a decade, nearly.

02:20:27.000 It's like eight years now.

02:20:30.000 And now he's facing charges because they just don't like that he's effective.

02:20:34.000 He exposed the intelligence agencies and some of the messed up stuff the U.S.

02:20:39.000 was doing, and it really helped Trump.

02:20:42.000 It showed a lot of Trump supporters exactly what they were doing and why, you know, a lot of these arguments against them, against like deep state, you know, people were correct.

02:20:53.000 And for a long time, like a good example is Sarah Palin.

02:20:55.000 She spoke out against WikiLeaks.

02:20:57.000 WikiLeaks published her emails.

02:20:59.000 Sarah Palin just came out defending Assange, because what we got out of WikiLeaks was good, and then you realize, you're gonna get, with WikiLeaks, you're gonna get stuff that you probably don't like, you don't want leaked, and you're gonna get stuff that you're probably grateful was leaked.

02:21:10.000 We learn these things from people like Assange.

02:21:13.000 But Assange isn't even the leaker or the whistleblower, he's the publisher, he's the journalist.

02:21:18.000 And they're doing this to him.

02:21:19.000 Trump needs to pardon that guy, ASAP.

02:21:22.000 The concern is if Trump pardons him right now, the UK will find an excuse to keep him.

02:21:28.000 And that Trump, his best bet would be to get Assange to the US before pardoning him.

02:21:33.000 How?

02:21:34.000 Don't think it's possible.

02:21:36.000 Like a secret raid to get him out of there?

02:21:38.000 He already did that.

02:21:39.000 They raided the Ecuadorian embassy and arrested Assange and now the British authorities have him.

02:21:45.000 But I mean, a raid on the British authorities.

02:21:47.000 Well, that's not gonna happen.

02:21:48.000 That'd be crazy.

02:21:49.000 No, they're trying to extradite him.

02:21:51.000 But he has the legal right to block the extradition.

02:21:54.000 And they don't trust the US government, so they're not going to allow it.

02:21:58.000 So, I think Trump should just pardon him.

02:22:00.000 I don't think there's any point in waiting.

02:22:01.000 And if Sanjuan wants to stay in the UK and doesn't want to come here, then just pardon him and be done with it.

02:22:05.000 Whatever.

02:22:06.000 Now how do we deal with the fact that people have their rights completely stomped on in a bunch of these states?

02:22:10.000 I don't know.

02:22:11.000 Because do we just sit back as the water slowly boils and we sit in and we know for a fact because of Supreme Court rulings in like several states already they are actively violating constitutional rights of these people?

02:22:23.000 Or do we say, something must be done, and Trump should invoke the Insurrection Act, and, you know, hypothetically go in and enforce constitutional order?

02:22:30.000 I thought he should have done it on day two of the riots.

02:22:32.000 Why didn't he?

02:22:32.000 But it's like there's the riots, and then there's the shutdown, and it's like they're two different psychotics.

02:22:37.000 No, listen, the Insurrection Act has been invoked numerous times, like a couple dozen times, and the most recent was for riots, 1992 LA riots.

02:22:47.000 Then you also had the Baltimore riots.

02:22:48.000 Then you had the Chicago riots in 1968.

02:22:50.000 These were nowhere near as crazy as what we saw.

02:22:53.000 Because of the Insurrection Act problem.

02:22:55.000 Well, I'm sorry.

02:22:55.000 Actually, the L.A.

02:22:56.000 riots were pretty nuts.

02:22:57.000 But I think nationwide riots and then a hundred days in the Pacific Northwest and Trump didn't do it.

02:23:02.000 There were like five days where they were just watching and then no one responded federally.

02:23:07.000 He doesn't have to worry about that right now.

02:23:08.000 I probably didn't really happen over the summer and that stuff because I it's all politics at that point

02:23:14.000 It's like what move will help him win re-election will letting them destroy themselves

02:23:17.000 He doesn't have to worry about that right now. He doesn't need to worry or but at the end of the day

02:23:22.000 We also don't know what's going on behind the scenes with this election stuff

02:23:25.000 Maybe he knows some stuff that we don't know that maybe he knows I'm gonna win this

02:23:30.000 Did we I like that and the other thing we don't know that I like this this super check I read it

02:23:33.000 Monty M says Ian pay your college loans then talk about cops

02:23:36.000 I was a cop for 13 years. The NYPD is a bunch of punks.

02:23:40.000 Well, right now my loans are on a temporary deferment because of COVID, but it's my, you know, probably number three concern with debts.

02:23:48.000 I pay off my credit card debts and my taxes first, and then... IamPanda says, I agree with Joey Salads.

02:23:54.000 Everyone here put money where mouth is and show up on Jan 6th in D.C.

02:23:59.000 That's the big question.

02:24:00.000 Trump won't make a move unless he knows he has popular support.

02:24:04.000 If people don't show up on the 6th, I'll tell you this, if 10 million people show up in D.C.

02:24:09.000 on the 6th and it's just endless waves, Trump will do whatever.

02:24:13.000 Trump will be like, okay, done.

02:24:15.000 I think I'm gonna go, because my flight is on the 6th.

02:24:17.000 I might just reschedule it so I can get there.

02:24:20.000 Go to D.C.?

02:24:20.000 Yeah.

02:24:21.000 I'm hearing from people that aren't super political telling me they're going.

02:24:23.000 Yeah, well that's the thing is people who aren't political are forced into being political because of the lockdowns.

02:24:29.000 Like, a normal business owner, a normal worker that doesn't care about politics, I just want to live my life.

02:24:34.000 They want Trump to win.

02:24:35.000 Yeah, now you're thrusted into it where when a Black Lives Matter throws a garbage can through your window, now you're in the political game. 0.87

02:24:44.000 D.C.

02:24:44.000 is a great city to congregate into.

02:24:46.000 There's all this wide open space and like plazas and roads to shut, easy to shut down roads.

02:24:51.000 Cool landmarks.

02:24:52.000 Oh, interesting.

02:24:53.000 Jon Stewart says, the provision curtailing the Insurrection Act was only in the earlier H.R.

02:24:56.000 bill, not the final Senate draft that he vetoed.

02:24:59.000 Interesting.

02:25:00.000 I thought it was in the, it was added as an amendment.

02:25:04.000 There was a fact check on it that said it was included in the bill, but I guess, you know, they took it off.

02:25:08.000 Anyway, I'll say it again.

02:25:11.000 If, I think, if you had 10 million people in DC, I think Trump would invoke the Insurrection Act, he'd overturn the elections, he'd just do whatever he wants because he has the people right there.

02:25:19.000 He would literally just be like, say something.

02:25:21.000 You know what I mean?

02:25:22.000 The people are here, they support me, I'm gonna do it.

02:25:23.000 And they would cheer for it.

02:25:25.000 But if people don't show up, Trump's just gonna be like, thanks everybody, have a nice day.

02:25:29.000 Trump, like, in any political move, won't do anything unless they feel like they have their truth.

02:25:33.000 Yeah, Obama was the same way.

02:25:34.000 He didn't have any support, so he just capitulated.

02:25:37.000 Yeah.

02:25:38.000 All right, let's see.

02:25:39.000 Let's just do one more.

02:25:41.000 Josh Branson says, the military has already gone door-to-door for guns before.

02:25:45.000 Look at post-Katrina New Orleans.

02:25:48.000 Interesting.

02:25:49.000 Well then, if you haven't already, smash the like button.

02:25:51.000 Thanks for hanging out on this Christmas Eve Eve show.

02:25:54.000 We're off tomorrow and for Christmas, and then we'll be back Monday.

02:25:58.000 And I'll be doing my show next on Saturday.

02:26:01.000 So check out my other channels at youtube.com slash TimCast and youtube.com slash TimCastNews.

02:26:05.000 You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Parler, at TimCast.

02:26:07.000 Joey, do you have anything you want to mention?

02:26:09.000 Your Twitter?

02:26:11.000 My Twitter.

02:26:12.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

02:26:13.000 Your Instagram.

02:26:15.000 I guess like my podcast, The Joey Saladino Show or the app America Now News.

02:26:22.000 You got any merchandise?

02:26:24.000 I got them wearing canceled.

02:26:25.000 Where can we buy that?

02:26:27.000 Merch link in bio.com.

02:26:29.000 Very cool.

02:26:30.000 I got that URL.

02:26:31.000 Oh, that's awesome!

02:26:32.000 And your YouTube channel's pretty huge, right?

02:26:34.000 It's just not monetized right now?

02:26:35.000 It's big.

02:26:35.000 I haven't posted in like six months because it's demonetized.

02:26:38.000 YouTube reps, if you're watching, just throw me a bone.

02:26:41.000 Yeah, man.

02:26:42.000 Get this guy back on the market.

02:26:44.000 I have a whole catalog of content I'm ready to post that I was filming.

02:26:47.000 I was like, Joey Sal's 2.0.

02:26:48.000 I'm going to come in hard.

02:26:50.000 I got highly produced content, and I'm right about to post it.

02:26:52.000 Can't you do sponsors, though?

02:26:54.000 Uh, my viewership plummeted after the demonetization.

02:26:58.000 Plus, the sponsorships don't really pay me much because it's hard for me to decide my price because my viewership fluctuation.

02:27:05.000 It's like, I'll get 50,000 views on a video, 2 million on this one, so it's like, how do I charge them?

02:27:09.000 Do you have a Mines account?

02:27:11.000 No.

02:27:12.000 I co-founded that with Bill.

02:27:13.000 You should get started on there, because I know Bill loves your work.

02:27:16.000 Yeah, I'll check it out.

02:27:16.000 He's the CEO.

02:27:17.000 I bet he'd push your stuff really hard.

02:27:18.000 Yeah, definitely.

02:27:18.000 Definitely mines.

02:27:20.000 Yeah, I'll check that out.

02:27:21.000 Because they actually have a pro partner program now, too.

02:27:23.000 Okay.

02:27:23.000 It's not as good as YouTube, but at least it's something to compete with.

02:27:26.000 Because, you know, with all due respect to, say, BitChute, Mine's actually, you get paid, like, a part of the program. 1.00

02:27:32.000 That's the key.

02:27:33.000 But it's not as good as Facebook or YouTube, but it's the only way to make it happen is to use it.

02:27:38.000 I've been just distributing my content on, like, all the alt platforms.

02:27:41.000 You know, it's like, little bit here, little bit there, but it adds up, you know, it's something significant altogether.

02:27:46.000 Mine's just doing this new technology where they can, you can link it with your YouTube channel, so any new YouTube uploads will upload to Mine's automatically.

02:27:53.000 That's cool.

02:27:54.000 I'm gonna check that and write this down.

02:27:56.000 It's, uh, free software, which is nice.

02:27:58.000 And I think that was, was there something else I was going to say about minds?

02:28:02.000 I don't know.

02:28:02.000 Were you going to mention your minds?

02:28:03.000 Oh, I have a minds channel at Ian Crossland, along with all my other social media accounts at Ian Crossland throughout the internet.

02:28:10.000 Right on, and of course you can follow at Sour Patch Lids.

02:28:12.000 You can, I'm on Twitter.

02:28:13.000 Pushing all the buttons.

02:28:14.000 Yep, L-I-D-S. 1.00

02:28:15.000 Posting spicy memes.

02:28:16.000 Correct.

02:28:16.000 And we're back Monday, right?

02:28:19.000 Um, yeah.

02:28:20.000 Maybe?

02:28:20.000 Well, I don't have anyone lined up yet.

02:28:22.000 Oh, well we're super excited for like the second week of January is gonna be spicy.

02:28:26.000 It's getting, yeah, it's awesome.

02:28:28.000 I'll just put it this way, there are people who are in Congress who are planning on coming.

02:28:31.000 You know their names.

02:28:32.000 But I'm not gonna- I think I know.

02:28:33.000 I don't announce guests because when they cancel I'm gonna get disappointed.

02:28:36.000 Not if, but when, because they do.

02:28:38.000 Well, especially people who are really busy and people like in Congress.

02:28:41.000 Am I allowed to say my guess, or would that, like, give it away?

02:28:43.000 Nah, don't say anything, just in case.

02:28:45.000 You know, Congress is a verb.

02:28:46.000 It means to move together.

02:28:48.000 Ian, let me ask you a question.

02:28:50.000 What does pro and con, in that context, what does pro mean?

02:28:57.000 Forward.

02:28:57.000 What does con mean?

02:28:59.000 Against.

02:29:00.000 What is progress?

02:29:01.000 To move forward.

02:29:02.000 What is Congress?

02:29:05.000 To move against.

02:29:05.000 Boom!

02:29:06.000 That's their job. 0.98

02:29:07.000 Say no to the president when he gets crazy. 0.62

02:29:09.000 It's true. 0.52

02:29:09.000 All right, everybody. 0.52

02:29:10.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:29:11.000 Merry Christmas.

02:29:12.000 Happy New Year.

02:29:12.000 We'll be back at some point.

02:29:14.000 We'll see you then.

02:29:15.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 24, 2020

Timcast IRL - Trump Vetoes NDAA In Massive Middle Finger To Establishment w- Joey Salads

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