Vivek Ramaswamy is leading in a new poll among first-time caucus goers, and Donald Trump is in third place. We talk about why this is happening, and why it matters, with Benny Johnson, Alex Brusiewicz, and Alex Berzwitz.
00:00:12.000It is, I think it's like, what, negative 15 out right now.
00:00:14.000We've got the Iowa Caucus results trackers pulled up, but we still have, I think, it could be an hour before we know exactly who wins and what's going on, but there's a lot of interesting data that's coming out.
00:00:24.000There is a lot of news that we'll probably get into as we are waiting, but we have a lot of awesome guests.
00:00:28.000And in the news today, Of course the Iowa caucus is taking center stage.
00:00:33.000Donald Trump is the huge favorite expected to win.
00:00:35.000But there is a shocking new poll showing that among first-time caucus goers, Vivek Ramaswamy actually is leading, Nikki Haley's in second, and Trump is in third.
00:00:42.000I don't know how much that will matter because the core base of voters are not first-time voters, so this should get pretty interesting.
00:00:48.000We've got massive escalation in the Red Sea, which could lead to serious conflict, crisis, and war.
00:00:53.000Higher prices, so we'll talk about all that.
00:00:56.000We'll talk about the airlines getting woke and going broke.
00:00:59.000But I think a big focus of today is going to be on the strategies of these political campaigns, who's going to win, why they're engaging the things they are, and of course, Donald Trump versus Vivek Ramaswamy is big in the news right now.
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00:02:20.000Joining us tonight to start off the show, we got Benny Johnson and Alex Brusiewicz.
00:03:17.000We've got a bunch of people who may be jumping in and out.
00:03:19.000I don't know exactly who may be showing up because there are a lot of people who have expressed interests, but, um, we are, uh, we have been under the impression the whole time, and I just want to make sure this is clear.
00:03:28.000Vivek Ramaswamy should be joining us at some point in the night to discuss strategy, what's happening, and so we're excited for that.
00:03:33.000Of course, we had him on the show on Wednesday.
00:03:37.000But considering how hectic the night may be, we have no idea how it may turn out, especially considering the roads are covered in ice and it's like minus 15, but the plan is to have him around.
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00:04:02.000We also have Seamus here, who just came out and crawled out of the tunnels in New York City.
00:04:23.000Well, I caught him because I saw Luke sitting on the couch eating a cracker and I recognized instantly it was a Belvita cracker from the shape on it.
00:08:01.000For the longest time, everybody's kind of wondering how it is that Vivek is running against Donald Trump, But there's no fighting.
00:08:08.000And so we actually got to the point where I think it was Dave Rubin who tweeted that Vivek... I don't want to get him wrong, but Dave said something to the effect that Trump is working with or for... I'm sorry, Vivek is working with or for Trump or something like this.
00:08:21.000That was a big narrative that was being pushed by the DeSantis camp for quite a while.
00:08:26.000And, you know, I think Vivek was smart for a long time for not taking shots at President Trump.
00:08:31.000And he kind of stayed above the fray in that fight.
00:08:36.000But President Trump certainly doesn't enjoy when people use his face or name for, you know, financial purposes.
00:08:42.000And those T-shirts that Vivek was pushing with the Save Trump Vote Vivek message, I think that was a little I think that upset a few people, including President Trump, and rightfully so.
00:08:54.000President Trump is never liked when people use his name.
00:08:56.000He even sued little Mac Miller over the song Donald Trump.
00:09:00.000And so, I think that was a rookie mistake made by Vivek, and it happened at an inopportune time for the guy.
00:09:11.000I don't know what they are, but... This image is real, and it's Vivek with a group of young men, and they're wearing shirts that say, Save Trump, Vote Vivek.
00:09:25.000I understand the message, like, okay, Trump's, his life is at risk if the deep state really wants him to not be president, that they'll stop at nothing.
00:09:34.000I get that, but like, to rely on that as a campaign message is a little lame.
00:09:38.000Like, you gotta be the best candidate, not like, oh, that other guy's a problem, so vote for me instead.
00:09:47.000Yeah, I mean, look, Vivek has a great thing going as If the deep state does really stop at nothing and go after Trump, and let's not even explain the worst that could happen, we're going to be happy that it's not just Nikki Haley waiting in the bleachers.
00:10:04.000That was the argument that I overheard as he's doing radio interviews all day with Alex Jones, Bongino.
00:10:12.000I couldn't hear Alex Jones or Bongino, but you could tell they were like, Trump's going after you, why would you run with this stupid shirt?
00:10:18.000And his argument was, Alex Jones, you just did 20 minutes.
00:10:22.000We just did 20 minutes together on how they're going to assassinate Trump.
00:10:41.000But that's, I think, the thought process behind it, right?
00:10:44.000The t-shirt is cringey, sure, but I thought Trump's response could have been better.
00:10:47.000I think he could have been a lot smarter about this situation.
00:10:50.000His statement today made more sense, but he could have reached out to Vivek.
00:10:54.000He could have Send out a message saying hey, I don't need saving.
00:10:58.000Thank you Without kind of the dividing a lot of people as of course, you know Don jr Was here just a couple days ago and he talked about how we don't have a bench and this kind of infighting I don't think is productive and I think it could have been handled totally different in my opinion Well, it is politics, and Vivek is running for president against Trump, and he has stayed out of, you know, kind of the firing lane the entire cycle so far.
00:11:23.000And this was really his first hiccup and mistake, I think, of the campaign.
00:11:45.000Uh, but I do think, you know, he's a young guy and, uh, when we're talking, looking at our bench down the future, I think Ron DeSantis stepped on a landmine this cycle and has no future after this.
00:11:55.000I think a lot of people saw his response and I think some people took offense to it because they kind of saw it as punching down and they saw it as infighting.
00:12:03.000And to me, that's how just some people reacted to it.
00:12:06.000But, you know, again, it's a crazy situation and a lot of people want it handled differently.
00:12:13.000I think the only smart move here, quite frankly, is for Trump to release a Save Vivek shirt.
00:12:20.000That would have been, yeah, that would have been a meme.
00:12:46.000Yeah, no, well, my point was basically just that, and I've said this on the show before, I think that if Trump and DeSantis are both strong, that's great for the United States of America, I want both of those men to be as successful as possible, and then going up against each other in this cycle, and DeSantis deciding to run has turned out to be a complete disaster for him and his campaign, and he ended up basically jumping headfirst into the politician woodchipper that is Donald Trump, I believe, to borrow the phrasing from Aaron McIntyre.
00:13:13.000And so, there's a lot that DeSantis has done that I think is fantastic.
00:13:17.000I would like to see him have a strong future in politics, but unfortunately, I think his campaign has been a disaster.
00:13:23.000And I also say that as someone who's had friends work for him, people who I like.
00:13:26.000I think the people making decisions for DeSantis are really not trustworthy, and I think they're making bad calls.
00:13:31.000And this is the moment that I would like to formally apologize to Will Chamberlain and Jordan Chamberlain.
00:13:40.000And I want to apologize because on the show last week, I said that they were living in Maryland while working for Ron DeSantis, and that was not true.
00:13:47.000And so, Will, I'm really sorry about that.
00:13:52.000I assumed you were still in the area because you had been on the show earlier, but they were actually living in Florida at the time when they were working for DeSantis.
00:14:03.000Yeah, I don't know how you get rid of Will, who's actually a smart guy, competent guy, and then keep some of these other dumpster fires around, so... Yep, and this is what I said to Will.
00:14:12.000If they put him in charge, DeSantis would be pulling way higher.
00:14:15.000He could have the campaign that Vivek is having.
00:14:17.000Granted, I think this is a mistake Vivek made, but I still think he's doing really well.
00:14:21.000But I gotta tell you, when I mentioned to you earlier, I don't even like Ron anymore.
00:14:26.000So, Laura Loomer put out that video where she confronts him and, you know, it is, I don't know how to describe it, but it is shocking to be confronted by Laura Loomer if you're some of these people, right?
00:14:38.000But a question that someone asked and she also asked was, why are you in Iowa when your state is in a state of emergency?
00:14:47.000And I was like, whoa, I didn't even realize.
00:15:33.000For what reason did he decide to come out here when people are canceling events?
00:15:37.000He actually abandoned his state during a state of emergency flooding in a disaster to campaign in a state that was dealing with its own weather.
00:16:33.000We were talking in the green room beforehand about basically the liberal economic order, most powerful force on earth, most powerful global government ever created.
00:16:41.000So if these guys, Vivek and Donald Trump, are saying, like, we're gonna disrupt it.
00:16:46.000My thought is, okay, well then your life is on the line.
00:16:48.000So if you do win the presidency, you're gonna have to go into hiding or govern from like some secret location.
00:16:54.000And they were like, no, that would be like an abandonment.
00:16:56.000I'm like, but if you stay in contact with the people via internet video, be like, I have no choice but to be in a mountain base.
00:17:02.000What do you, do you guys think that's a good idea?
00:18:22.000And the joke everyone else has is that if Trump picked Nikki Haley as VP, he'd have to get a food taster, because they're going to want to get her in as soon as possible.
00:18:59.000Americans are fatter, sicker, and more depressed than ever.
00:19:02.000But we're talking about calendars and cringy t-shirts.
00:19:05.000The conversation should really be about the establishment versus the anti-establishment.
00:19:09.000This is where the conversation needs to be.
00:19:11.000There's a lot at stake here, and to me, we're arguing over superficial issues when there's so much deeper things that we could be exposing right now, fighting for, and talking about that sadly we're not talking about, which is kind of disappointing for me personally.
00:19:28.000The results are going to start coming in, but we do have some big issues, especially Taylor Hanson is reporting on a really crazy issue, which we'll get to later in the show, where you've actually got police officers.
00:19:37.000They're off duty, but using public equipment to facilitate human smuggling operations on the border.
00:20:26.000I think Mark Cuban tweeted this, calling for crossover voters, Democrats, to come in and vote for Nikki Haley, basically sabotaging the Republican primary process.
00:20:35.000Why does the state party of Iowa allow that?
00:20:37.000Why does the Republican state party of Iowa allow that?
00:21:34.000This is a strategy of having your people go to open primaries to choose whoever you think is going to lose or just to cause chaos and damage.
00:21:42.000Well, if it makes any of the folks in attendance or watching feel better, Liz Cheney tried to do this in Wyoming and she lost by 40 points.
00:21:49.000She tried to get all the Democrats in Wyoming to register and vote for her.
00:21:52.000I don't think it's smart that some states do it.
00:22:20.000she has called totally closed the doors to most conservative media
00:22:25.000She won't allow cameras inside of her stump speeches.
00:22:27.000She's terrified that her speeches will get out there.
00:22:29.000And so your videos of like talking to the attendees and saying, yeah, I'll vote.
00:22:33.000They say, I'll vote for Biden before I vote for Trump.
00:22:36.000Like, those are the first videos that were actually coming out of the Nikki Haley events this entire campaign cycle, so you guys did a great job on that.
00:23:01.000He's attracting a new demographic, I think, to the party.
00:23:05.000And I think a lot of when he eventually drops out, I think most of his, if not all of his supporters will come and vote for President Trump.
00:23:10.000But, you know, he's a young, energetic guy, and he attracts a similar type of person that
00:23:27.000It's brilliance going for the younger voter.
00:23:29.000I think Vivek's whole play is for the future.
00:23:32.000I do think the Save Trump, Vote Vivek thing was a huge misstep.
00:23:36.000But I think right now, and I'll say this too, because right now with the Vivek versus Trump thing, people are getting attacked online like crazy.
00:23:43.000You've got these diehard Trump supporters saying they're all grifters.
00:23:47.000Look, I'm gonna throw some criticism at Ian Miles Chong, because he posted that really deceptive image that was, like, mainstream media-esque, where it's a very tight shot from the third row of a Trump rally, and then behind Vivek at his whole room, when apparently Trump's— Trump had, like, 2,500 people-plus overflow and Vivek had 500 capacity.
00:24:08.000But there are a lot of people that I think are going hard after anybody who was talking to Vivek or interviewing him, claiming that it's a paid, coordinated thing.
00:24:20.000Maybe some people are getting paid by Vivek's campaign.
00:24:22.000We didn't get anything from Vivek, except I will say, full disclosure, the building we are in, Laura Loomer tweeted that we are in his campaign office.
00:24:35.000We are in an unused portion of the building.
00:24:37.000We actually had to talk with the owner about the use of the space and what it meant.
00:24:40.000And I'm just going to tell everybody this.
00:24:42.000We actually, we were like at odds with the Vivek campaign because they're super noisy and we're trying to do a show but I'm like I don't want to disrupt someone else's campaign.
00:24:49.000Yeah, they've given us full access to that office which is where I got my tea is in Vivek's campaign.
00:25:50.000When it comes to the issue of loyalty, I can ignore policy and say, I'm not going to abandon a guy and vote for Vivek after this guy jumped in the trenches and caused himself personal damage to do good things for me and the United States.
00:26:07.000However, Donald Trump has experience in his first term.
00:26:11.000I believe that if Vivek were to win right now, he would not be as effective as Trump in certain areas because he will step on the landmines that they laid out for Trump in the first term that Trump now knows about.
00:26:22.000So I still think there's a logical path forward for why Donald Trump is the right person to pick.
00:26:26.000And I also think there's a question of honor and loyalty to a guy who's sacrificing a lot.
00:26:30.000Well, so Honor, don't turn away from who you believe in because of fear.
00:26:57.000If we take all of his policies and everything he did for this country and just put a blanket over it and say, the only issue we are addressing is this man ran to be president, ignited a base, and they have been stabbing him in the back relentlessly.
00:27:14.000I think I hear where you're coming from, though.
00:27:17.000And I think for the voters, I don't think the voters necessarily have to be loyal to a person, right?
00:27:22.000I think President Trump has earned a lot of respect and a lot of appreciation from the voters, and that's why they're going to vote for him tonight and across the country.
00:27:29.000But when Laura Loomer, I think when she's talking about the loyalty, I think she's talking about people like a Ron DeSantis, who was a backbench Congress member until he got on his hands and knees and cried in front of Trump, begging him for his endorsement, basically getting the coronation to become governor of Florida.
00:27:44.000President Trump worked with him, made sure he got in.
00:27:49.000DeSantis was running TV ads, you know, basically saying, you know, I'm President Trump's number one guy and, you know, build the wall, reading Trump books to his kids.
00:27:58.000Embrace a Trump rant to become who he is today, and then he totally ditched Trump when it became politically convenient for him.
00:28:06.000And then, when you look at some of these other influencers that Laura Loomer's in the trenches fighting online, simply built their audiences.
00:28:13.000Like, I look at Tim different than I look at some of these other folks.
00:28:16.000Look at Jenna Ellis, because Jenna Ellis built her audience off of the back of Trump supporters and President Trump.
00:28:22.000Tim built his audience on his own, doing his own thing, and so who he wants to support, he can support who he wants.
00:28:28.000But when you're Jenna Ellis, or you're a John Cardillo, or you're a Bill Mitchell, and your content is only, I love Trump, for five, six years, and just in the reply section defending him, and all of a sudden you switch?
00:28:41.000Like, that's where people like... And their followers left them.
00:28:46.000Bill Mitchell lost 90,000 followers over the last year because he became the biggest DeSantis shill.
00:29:27.000And I don't see that playing a role right now.
00:29:29.000Yeah, but I think the other question, too, is if somebody has been good for 20 years, how do you know that the person who's coming up isn't just good in rhetoric and they're actually going to be decent when they take office?
00:29:37.000Because that's one of the values, that's one of the benefits of having a political leader who has some experience, is you're able to say, okay, I know what their track record is, whereas this other guy could have great rhetoric, but I don't know what he's going to do.
00:29:48.000Royalty is in like military and monarchy.
00:29:51.000I don't think it has a place in republics.
00:30:38.000I fully expect to vote for Donald Trump in 2024 in a general election.
00:30:42.000My issue with the whole, my issue with the whole, what Alex is talking about, but then also this whole like loyalty argument is I think at the root of it is we injected money into the influencer world and were able to flip influencers in a very cringey way.
00:30:59.000Talked a little bit about cringe political campaigns here.
00:31:02.000And I'm not going to name anyone, but it's fully available for everyone to see online who's getting paid.
00:31:07.000It's also fully available in FEC reports.
00:31:09.000You can go check who's on the payroll of which campaigns, right?
00:31:12.000Big name influencers, you can go find them.
00:31:47.000That was something that I wanted, because I went and spent the day doing a documentary for my Tenet media show called In the Arena, where we go and we show this process.
00:34:23.000And Donald Trump is massively popular.
00:34:26.000What do you think, Alex, particularly you, and anybody that wants to talk about it, as a Vivek Donald Trump ticket, regardless of who's... I mean, I think Donald Trump is the lead.
00:34:34.000I think Vivek has certainly positioned himself for an incredible future.
00:34:53.000I think Favek certainly should be considered.
00:34:57.000But I do believe that President Trump has made up his mind and will probably Who is it?
00:35:02.000We'll probably find out that sooner than later.
00:35:05.000And this primary should wrap up sooner than later because Joe Biden just posted his financials that he raised this last quarter, $117 million.
00:35:13.000He gets to save all of his money and prepare for the general election.
00:35:17.000This primary so far, $250 million has been spent, and look at that margin right now.
00:35:23.000And so we are just blowing money that we need in November, and so we need some of these jokers to drop out, and so we can take the fight to Joe Biden.
00:35:32.000This was a spectacular waste of money.
00:35:34.000I mean it's gonna be this if it's good they're gonna call it in like 29 seconds and how much money was 300 votes coming in well how much money was spending right Chris Christie was talking about on the leaked audio right like the money was he didn't know he's live well he was he was telling 200 million dollars right to say this has been ninety nine million dollars in the state of oh ninety nine million he's got 75 votes so far Do you work for Trump's campaign?
00:35:58.000I do not work for Trump's campaign, but I am close with most of the folks over there.
00:36:04.000I've been blessed to become friends with the president.
00:36:07.000I'm excited to see him in a few minutes here.
00:36:09.000He's going to be in great spirits and in a great mood.
00:36:14.000I just want to mention he's doubled his count.
00:36:17.000I do need to point out, while you may be upset that Ron spent all of that money, when Bloomberg was running, and everyone in the country was laughing, and he spent half a billion dollars doing it, just understand, he spent a lot of that money on YouTube channels that hated him, and so congratulations funding the people who spread the message that you suck.
00:36:37.000So understand, when these people are spending money, it's great for the cultural ecosystem.
00:36:43.000What they're trying to do is that campaigns like DeSantis, I don't know if he's buying ads and social media the way Bloomberg was doing, but they're trying to counter the message of people who are saying Bloomberg sucks.
00:38:03.000We tried to bait them into fights that weren't important, and then they spend days and days on a news cycle that, uh, was completely irrelevant to the campaign.
00:38:20.000So, they get caught making a video with Dr. Fauci and Donald Trump hugging in AI, and incredibly shady, and Tim Pool called him out, Senator J.D.
00:38:29.000Vance called him out, Josh Hawley called it out.
00:38:32.000They said, and then their response is, well, Donald Trump shared this meme of Ron DeSantis riding a rhinoceros.
00:39:01.000Well, I grew up in video game culture, you know, so you log on, you play Call of Duty, you play, you know, whatever game you play, and you sit with your buddies and you say the meanest things you can say to each other for, you know, all day, every day, and then you get off and you, you know, see each other at school the next day and you're best friends, right?
00:39:17.000I don't, words don't hurt me, so like, I don't really care if somebody's like, uh, you know, they call me AB35K, or they say I have no upper lip, or whatever it may be, like, I appreciate the attacks, and I find humor in the attacks, and so, I like the game, but you get, these guys take it so personally, and they're so offended by it, And they react emotionally and sociologically, and we just play with them.
00:39:39.000My conspiracy theory is that the people running DeSantis' campaign are Trump supporters, and they got together and said, what can we do to sabotage Ron DeSantis?
00:39:48.000Because if you look at what they're doing, it literally makes no sense.
00:39:51.000I don't want to call out high-profile individuals who don't want to get involved in fights they don't need to be involved in, but we've had guests on this show who are prominent conservative personalities in a different range of array of spaces.
00:40:00.000What I mean by that is like, being as vague as possible, is like an entertainer perhaps.
00:40:05.000And they say things like, when they show up to the studio, they'll be like, hey, I'm getting attacked
00:40:10.000by these DeSantis people, what's going on?
00:42:57.000Look, if he was a smart guy, he drops out tomorrow morning, endorses President Trump, tucks his tail between his legs, goes back to Tallahassee.
00:43:44.000And then after the fight was over, it changed to LION.
00:43:48.000And then it was like, it was honorable.
00:43:51.000To be clear, Ted Cruz did not endorse President Trump for this cycle, so Ted still has an amount.
00:43:54.000Nikki Haley is within two votes of beating Ron DeSantis.
00:43:57.000I think the best thing Ron can do is support the party, and not support, necessarily, I mean, he could go support Trump, but I mean, you gotta party unity at some point.
00:44:06.000And maybe they'll make amends, you know, I don't think they dislike each other personally.
00:44:49.000Like is DeSantis 99 million partly like, We're gonna make sure that you've got a car to the caucus, that you can get there early.
00:44:55.000They imported the entire cabinet and government agency staffers of the state of Florida to go door-to-door in, you know, this frigid temperature and beg people to go caucus for Ron.
00:45:08.000You know, it obviously didn't work out too well for them.
00:45:10.000A lot of out-of-staters showing up at somebody's door in Iowa.
00:45:12.000The Iowans, you know, don't really appreciate that a whole lot.
00:45:17.000That was the emergency evacuation plan?
00:46:09.000We had a request in, because we call him Crisp Crispy, on my show, and we had a request in to go to a Krispy Kreme that's right down the street from my studio and to eat... Nikki Haley's beating Ron DeSantis!
00:46:27.000Look, Democrats, the rumor is, and I would warn everyone, don't fall for this trap should it be like Rhino Republicans or whatever establishment shills, but the argument right now is that Democrats are crossing party lines to vote for Nikki.
00:46:42.000If it goes to a general election, they're not going to vote for Nikki.
00:46:44.000So she might get higher percentages in the primary process, she's not going to get in the general.
00:46:49.000That sounds like really, really... Dirty.
00:46:53.000Yeah, you go in, you register as a Republican, you caucus for the wrong person, and then you can switch back to Democrat afterwards?
00:47:39.000Yeah, I do think, I think Ron decided to campaign.
00:47:41.000I don't, I don't, I will say this, I don't know for sure.
00:47:44.000I'm not accusing him of doing anything, but I will say it does, it does seem most people would agree.
00:47:49.000That a lot of the pro-detainees' accounts online are bots.
00:47:53.000I don't know if that's the way the campaign or not, but you see they'll have some generic name with a gator in the name, they'll have some kind of cartoon character as the profile picture, and they all respond in the exact same ways.
00:48:20.000The DeSantis campaign walked right into so much of this, I mean... That's wild.
00:48:24.000It was just like... Maybe it's a little crass or whatever, but that photo was posted of DeSantis' people and Christina Pasha had her knees made red in Photoshop or whatever.
00:48:35.000I didn't get that, what did that mean?
00:48:38.000After that, it was like, that was the moment where I noticed she went from DMing with people I knew, we were talking with her about having her or her detainees come on the show.
00:48:46.000After that photo came out, it was like just the gates of hell had been unleashed.
00:48:53.000It appeared to me that she was using campaign resources to settle personal scores.
00:48:58.000And she had a lot of the campaign assets and folks just went to battle for her instead of actually doing something that was helpful to the candidate.
00:49:37.000His super PAC had their bus here basically the entire campaign.
00:49:40.000They pulled out of New Hampshire many months ago.
00:49:44.000And his whole campaign was reliant on Iowa.
00:49:47.000And that's why he sought the endorsements of Steve Deese and Bob Vander Plaats and these people who were once considered Iowan kingmakers.
00:49:56.000And I don't think any campaign is going to be seeking their endorsements next go-around.
00:50:01.000You know, it's kind of wild to have been someone.
00:50:04.000Look, a year and almost two years ago, I'm hanging out with the Daily Wire crew, a story I've told a million times, and we're talking about why we think Ron DeSantis is the guy.
00:50:12.000It's well before Trump was back in the race.
00:51:23.000Attacking anyone who would dare criticize his failing campaign.
00:51:26.000Now we're at the point where we're like, this guy has totally failed.
00:51:29.000There are a lot of personalities who tied their hitch to the Desantis wagon, and no matter how bad things got, they kept saying, no, he's the best, no, I refuse to back down.
00:51:43.000Are they going to try and come back and be like, MAGA, please take me back into your warm bosom, I'm sorry I supported this guy whose campaign was miserable?
00:51:49.000Or they do a Lincoln Project type group, and I don't really want some of those folks on our side.
00:51:57.000become a detriment of Ron. I don't want, I mean, I don't really want a lot of his
00:52:00.000people being advocates for us out there. Like, normal people look at some
00:52:04.000of these people like they think they're weird. So I hope they stay far away from
00:52:08.000Trump world moving forward. I would love to make it less about who and more about
00:52:13.000what we do moving forward as a union. Like, this making the America great, again,
00:55:46.000And same with Laura Trump or Kimberly Guilfoyle.
00:55:51.000If you look at all the establishment political analysts, they're going to Trump and they're telling him it makes sense.
00:55:56.000For Trump not to say yes or no also makes sense for him because he could essentially stop Nikki from attacking him during this election cycle by possibly maybe giving her a possibility and therefore she's going to have to be careful with the criticism that she launches against him.
00:56:11.000Strategically, when you look at the situation, anything and everything is plausible here, but I think as independent media, we need to send out the message that Nikki Haley is horrible.
00:57:27.000There's great ads up right now showcasing Nikki being more concerned about protecting the feelings of illegal aliens than protecting our borders.
00:57:36.000She really doesn't want you to call illegal aliens criminals.
00:57:39.000She's incredibly weak and you're gonna see a lot more of that I'd assume now that she's firmly in second place.
00:57:48.000So like at this point I hope that he focuses on what and telling us what he wants to do next like it is very Well, you can go to Agenda 47.
00:57:57.000Go to DonaldJTrump.com and go to Agenda 47.
00:58:01.000Every policy position for his next term, for next administration, and I can promise you that he's already been doing a great job of looking at staffing for the next administration because that was something that, you know, it could have been a little bit better in his first term, obviously, and he's taking it very seriously for this next term.
00:58:36.000And, you know, he got in there and then early on you learn that that's not the case.
00:58:40.000And so, um, He found out who his friends were, he found out who he can trust, who he can put in these positions, and he's had four years to think about it.
00:58:47.000He calls this period that we're in right now a pause period, and you know, he's very excited to get back in there.
00:58:54.000Yeah, his VP pick is going to be crucial.
00:58:56.000It's going to be absolutely critically important to see his trajectory, and for my vantage point, an anti-establishment figure makes more sense than an establishment figure, because if Someone in the establishment, they're just gonna take him out.
00:59:17.000If it's a very strong anti-establishment person, they're gonna have to think twice.
00:59:20.000It has to be someone more radical than him.
00:59:22.000It has to be someone who's willing to speak on the issues a lot more aggressively than he is and also kind of be different than him when it comes to some of the things that also divide his base.
00:59:37.000If Ron DeSantis... Michael Malice tweeted, shoutout to Michael Malice, he says he doesn't see how Ron DeSantis can continue if he comes in third behind Nikki Haley.
00:59:43.000There's a little bit more context there.
00:59:45.000But it's an interesting question about what happens now in New Hampshire, where, supposedly, she's polling at 30%.
01:01:58.000So now that Florida is a ruby red state with a ton of power and then projected power, right?
01:02:03.000So when the census comes, the state will get four new congressional seats and so forth and the governor will be insanely powerful.
01:02:11.000Ron cannot run constitutionally and that race is already heating up in the state of Florida as a Florida resident for who's going to take that role.
01:02:18.000You're gonna see some big names throw their hats in.
01:02:24.000I mean, everyone thought... Well, he started this new college in Florida called New College of Florida, and it's like the new Hillsdale College.
01:02:42.000And again, that's something that's so stupid, but they got so upset about it.
01:02:46.000Yeah, the trolling from you guys was making them insane.
01:02:51.000You got to know the Chinese It's not just the trolling, literally any even slight constructive criticism of Ron was met with his campaign people online diving all over you.
01:03:06.000I know ALX, my executive producer, comes on the show with regularity.
01:03:11.000This is something that we would track all the time, obviously.
01:03:15.000is when we did it, and it's not just trolling, you said slight trolling.
01:03:20.000Yeah, not even slight trolling, like constructive feedback.
01:03:22.000So when something, when we didn't say something about like a big news story about Ron DeSantis, we'd get trolled.
01:03:30.000So when Kim Reynolds endorsed Ron DeSantis, there was a bunch of stuff going on, we didn't mention it in our feed, and the entire DeSantis team came scorched earth for us.
01:03:41.000Like, tagging us, naming us, because we didn't talk about Ronji.
01:04:42.000But I think the thing with Jeb's campaign is, you know, the big problem is it was... Jeb?
01:04:48.000In his campaign like who's gonna you know it's Jeff Bush I love that so many issues with him but when when Ron DeSantis and particularly when he was first running before everyone had this bad taste in their mouth left by his campaign.
01:05:07.000And it was his campaign came and his people just totally destroyed any momentum.
01:05:12.000You know, look, look, for the longest time I've, uh, not just I, but many have been talking, talking about where are the young, where, where are the millennials to step up and enter politics?
01:05:20.000Uh, or even Gen Xers because for the longest time we have, like, what do we have?
01:05:22.000Like septic and octogenarians all throughout Congress.
01:05:52.000It's kind of a joke, but I mean it as an actual analogy.
01:05:55.000In the first movie, and you have Donald Trump in the second movie, one reason I bring him up as examples, it is a high quality production with music, acting, it's memorable, it's a classic film.
01:06:23.000Burglars try to come in, he's trying to fight them off.
01:06:26.000Home Alone 3 is, an international band of terrorists are stealing nuclear missile codes from some device of some sort, and he has to stop them, but his mom is home.
01:06:37.000So, now that I've made the silly joke...
01:06:39.000I've mentioned this, when Barack Obama, watch his announcement speech, when he's announcing that he's running for president, back in, what was it, like end of 07 or 08 or whatever, I don't even remember.
01:06:48.000He's standing in front of a crowd of 10-20 thousand people, and he does this very charismatic thing, where he goes, and that is why, I, Barack Obama, I'M RUNNING FOR THE UNITED STATES!
01:07:00.000And then the crowd just goes wild, they're screaming.
01:07:33.000Did anybody here listen to the second space?
01:07:35.000So the second space, what you hear is the actual... That space didn't crash, and you hear Ron DeSantis reading, from a notepad, his speech.
01:09:02.000Actually, especially in states with different time zones.
01:09:05.000So, like, the other half of the state, if the time zone splits in a state, like, you'll call the state, and half the state hasn't even voted yet.
01:09:40.000You know, the same tired Trump we've heard over and over.
01:09:42.000But on this day, of all days, Martin Luther King Day, the people of Iowa, just like President Trump, judge me not by the color of my skin, but by the content of my character.
01:09:49.000The anti-Trump movement is in full-blown meltdown.
01:12:03.000Well, I think he's getting a lot of flack right now.
01:12:05.000I think the important thing to recognize, too, is there's a lot of people in history People need to know the truth about, and if you don't really pay attention, you might just believe the simple things of them.
01:12:38.000The FBI knows about it, since they were spying on him and then recording his private conversations with his mistresses and then playing it to his wife when he was in jail, trying to, of course, get them divorced, as, of course, a court in Memphis actually found the U.S.
01:12:54.000government complicit in the assassination of MLK.
01:14:35.000So the FBI has released these files and they have like, they're available on the FBI website.
01:14:40.000And the agents who did this were never held accountable.
01:14:42.000So this was the beginning stages of the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover, who also was a person who was probably being extorted as well for the dresses that he was wearing.
01:15:14.000I don't know what's happening to R.F.B.
01:15:15.000Jr., but there has been a huge turnaround in his kind of team that is very kind of bewildering.
01:15:22.000He was on, admittedly, and we found this out through the documents, but before the documents came out, he said he was on the Lolita Express with Jeffrey Epstein and his wife all the way back in the early 1990s.
01:16:40.000To Vivek's credit, between the three candidates that are behind Trump right now, He significantly spent less money and is probably over-performing that his predictions were early in the cycle.
01:16:56.000So, you know, I don't even consider her votes to be actual... She's not convincing anybody but the Democratic Party to vote for Nikki Haley, Hillary.
01:17:03.000Vivek also worked very hard hitting the ground gate here more than I think anyone else.
01:17:09.000And it's crazy, you know, when Ron DeSantis has an event and he meets people, the people that he meets typically don't like him.
01:17:14.000What's this video with the guy in the wheelchair getting thrown out of the DeSantis event?
01:17:40.000They just showed up and obviously they're critical of DeSantis on the interweb.
01:17:44.000Man, I kind of wish I went to one of those events.
01:17:46.000I texted you two photos from a caucus event of Nikki Haley voters and so you can give people sort of an image of I have- Do they have blue hair?
01:17:56.000We have a production team here and they're at- Do you wanna- Can you tweet him?
01:18:07.000I suppose if whoever's waiting in the wings wants to jump on while we're waiting for Vivek, unless he's here, you guys wanna rock, paper, scissors for it?
01:19:39.000Yeah, but look, you know, if Nikki loses, which she's going to, there's no way she's winning, then we all have reason to celebrate, I guess, but it is what it is.
01:20:19.000Well, those were the original reports, but the Iranians are now saying that they're attacking a rebel group that is against Iran inside of Iraq.
01:20:27.000So far, we have not gotten any confirmations that U.S.
01:21:38.000The DOJ is suing Texas because Texas deployed armed soldiers to block CBP access to the river.
01:21:45.000You now have a bubbling conflict between corrupt law enforcement facilitating human trafficking and smuggling and law enforcement at the state level trying to stop it.
01:22:00.000The states have a duty to defend themselves.
01:22:02.000Right, but what do you think happens if the federal government doesn't back down?
01:22:04.000And what do you think happens if Nikki Haley wins?
01:22:06.000It's an interesting conundrum for the federal government.
01:22:09.000Hopefully, their goal is to support states' rights, ideally, as cohesion, and you don't want to press the states away.
01:22:15.000And also, they're dealing with a geopolitical nightmare with this, like, you're talking about the Houthis, what's going on in Ukraine and Israel, all these things.
01:22:22.000Hopefully, the United States does not push the issue on this.
01:22:25.000I mean, Texas made very clear— What does that mean?
01:22:43.000And the only state doing anything, somewhat, is Texas, while the other states do nothing.
01:22:47.000Kind of made me think about the American Civil War.
01:22:49.000I was thinking about the Emancipation Proclamation and how Abraham Lincoln was like, hey, all you slaves in the South, you're free.
01:22:55.000And kind of like, and by the way, if you want to fight for the North, go for it.
01:22:59.000All these illegal immigrants, if the federal government were like, hey, all you illegal immigrants, you can have citizenship.
01:23:05.000If you want to fight for the federal government, if you know what I mean, kind of thing.
01:23:07.000Like, if there's a... just to, like, disincentivize people from trying to create some sort of civil war in the United States.
01:23:13.000We talk about this quite a bit on the show, but we have you here, Benny.
01:23:15.000I'm curious your thoughts on this border issue, right?
01:23:18.000You've got state-level fighting with federal officers to the point where there are armed soldiers deployed against federal law enforcement.
01:23:25.000So all of this goes back to the 1960s, Cloward and Piven and the communists who sort of wrote the neo-Marxist vision for America and how to bring Marxism to America, and one of the number one things you needed to do was Balloon the welfare state large enough so that it actually collapses the federal dollar and the federal government's capacity.
01:23:46.000That's the number one way to create crisis.
01:23:58.000You have to give it some type of horrible malady and something that is so insufferable that it can't move forward.
01:24:06.000And so their idea was, Swell the welfare rolls, which you saw with the Great Society Program, swell the welfare rolls so big that the federal government can never afford it.
01:24:17.000And then that will create, of course, the millstones of high taxation and inflation that grind the middle class, and you get no middle class.
01:24:23.000And so the way that you swell the welfare rolls is to bring people here that don't speak the language, that have no skills, that can't get jobs or are having a tough time, you know, or can't work legally, but are accessible, are able to get on welfare programs.
01:24:39.000And California is leading the way in this.
01:24:42.000And that's the way that you actually collapse the United States of America.
01:24:45.000I think that's the ultimate strategy here.
01:24:47.000A lot of people are like, well, they'll vote Democrat.
01:25:41.000doesn't pay ransom to terrorists in the Middle East.
01:25:45.000It is well known, for the most part, I don't know, Biden may have changed some of this, that if you are traveling around, I don't know, Syria or something, and you get kidnapped, and you're an American citizen, the people who kidnapped you know the U.S.
01:27:53.000There's the possibility that the Biden administration invokes the Insurrection Act against Texas for blocking federal agents at the border.
01:28:02.000I would defer to the Constitution on this.
01:28:04.000So it's the federal government's job, Article 4, Section 4, Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S.
01:28:09.000Constitution to protect the states from invasion.
01:28:12.000However, when you jump to the 10th Amendment, the 10th Amendment says that if the federal government is failing their own responsibility, and the article doesn't say that the states cannot B, cannot take up the responsibility, then that responsibility can be taken up by the states or by the individuals.
01:28:32.000I think that we're going to start seeing some really interesting... What if under that argument of Article 4, Section 4, the Biden administration says, we are protecting the border by having our troops, our CBP and our law enforcement at the border, and Texas is blocking us from enforcing our constitutional duties, thus engaging in insurrection?
01:28:52.000Ken Paxton has an 80% win rate against the Biden administration, so he's probably one of the smartest people in the Constitution that I've ever come across.
01:29:01.000Yeah, but we're not talking about the legality of it.
01:29:05.000The idea that the Texas National Guard was deployed armed to block access to federal law enforcement.
01:29:10.000The concern there is at what point do both sides assert jurisdiction over the same area, and when that happens, who's going to try to arrest the other?
01:29:18.000Or does this really just come down to Biden administration just backs down instantly and says, we don't want to fight, we lose, you win?
01:29:24.000This is exactly what happened in Fort Sumter.
01:29:26.000The Union forces were occupying Fort Sumter.
01:29:47.000And I think the only actual death in that conflict was an accidental death on the side of the Union, I could be wrong.
01:29:52.000I read a bunch of articles saying no one really knows who fired the first shot, but... I'm simply saying territorial dispute over like federal jurisdiction is what kicked off the Civil War, like what it's seen as historically kicking off the Civil War.
01:30:07.000After that, we historically look back at that date and say, that was the start of the Civil War.
01:30:12.000However, the actual first bloody battle was the First Battle of Bull Run, which, even after the battle at Fort Sumter, local residents in the area did not believe Civil War could happen, even though we believe it already started, and were picnicking, watching the first bloody battle, which was chaos.
01:30:28.000So, we look at this border issue, this jurisdiction issue, and perhaps that's it.
01:30:33.000Perhaps all we get is a standoff, which is happening now already, with federal law enforcement, Texas National Guard, and we think nothing of it.
01:30:40.000And even after some CBP guy shoves a National Guard guy, and then they try arresting someone, and we're like, wow, they're fighting, we still don't think we're in it.
01:30:50.000After this, Texas deploys armed National Guard to the border to block a bunch of Biden vehicles that are trying to come in, resulting in actual shootouts.
01:30:57.000And then we say 100 years from now, it started when the Texas National Guard deployed armed soldiers to block federal agents from facilitating human smuggling or whatever.
01:32:35.000Who would have ever thought we could influence so many people by printing papers rapidly on these machines and distributing, but the issue was geography.
01:32:42.000So the people in these areas, you could reach 100,000 by circulating papers.
01:32:46.000We're circulating this show to, you know, it'll probably end up being like a million people, but they're spread out.
01:32:51.000So the big difference is, Whereas with the Civil War in this country in the 1860s, it's geographic, it's North and South.
01:32:58.000So yes, ideas are being spread in those isolated areas.
01:33:02.000Now you're going to have pockets all over the country of different factions, and that's what we see in other countries and have seen in other civil wars.
01:33:07.000I think though, you know, long distance is free now.
01:33:09.000You can make phone calls, you can do video chats with your friends out of state.
01:33:16.000And 20, 30 years ago, this show would have been shut down 15 minutes in because of what we were talking about.
01:33:22.000Like, the ability to, like, go right at the situation and describe it to people is... It was called Golden Handcuffs, and that's a common phrase.
01:33:30.000What would happen 20 years ago, if you were on, like, a cable network channel, and you had a panel show where they expected you to say, you know, Nikki Haley's the best or something like that, and you went off the rails, they would let the show happen.
01:33:41.000And then later, they would tell you, hey, you know, we're actually going to move your time slot, but we don't know exactly what we're going to do, so we'll let you know.
01:34:51.000It's really wild to look at the centralized control of the free networks that you would get even if you had a TV, you didn't have to pay for ABC, NBC, or CBS.
01:34:58.000It just comes standard with the TV in every American household.
01:35:02.000And PBS, I suppose you could include that.
01:35:05.000And how every single night they were all on message.
01:35:09.000It was absolute government programming.
01:35:10.000Like, my childhood, of course, was in the 80s, and that was just pure government programming.
01:35:40.000There was other congressional hearings that actually did find out that there was CIA agents at the top of almost every major news outlet that were pretty much calling the shots and directing people to publish news that the CIA wanted them to publish.
01:35:56.000Now we're seeing a different kind of version of it with The same kind of intelligence agencies influencing social media and algorithms and what people can and cannot say on those particular platforms.
01:36:06.000So they changed the way that they do things.
01:36:09.000And instead of just going to these network heads, I think they're still at the network.
01:36:13.000I think they're just just expanding where the media and information is expanding and what we're getting now.
01:36:19.000Other than in a limited way kind of Rumble and Twitter is curated content that I think they centrally control in more ways than one that we even don't understand as of yet just how sophisticated their manipulation of information is as now.
01:36:35.000So to answer your question they manipulated the CIA manipulated what we saw before and now they're doing it again with the exception of Twitter and rumble which are directly under attack by the establishment right now.
01:36:50.000So I think this is why there's such a fervent fight to take those institutions down because then when they're down The establishment could pretty much do whatever they want to us.
01:37:01.000But now that they're up, I think this is one of the big things that is stopping a big kind of event, a big kind of October surprise.
01:37:08.000And a lot of the same old tactics were changed up.
01:37:10.000So when we have the next big thing to deal with, when we have the next big PSYOP, It's going to be far more complicated than what we're used to dealing with, and have many layers to it, where even our reaction, being skeptical of it, could be playing along with the larger game against us as well.
01:37:26.000So I'm trying to think of this as how they're playing all this out.
01:37:44.000A network of public interest groups and lawmakers nervous about former President Trump's potential return to power is quietly devising plans to foil any effort on his part to pressure the U.S.
01:37:54.000military to carry out his political agenda.
01:38:19.000If you click on the article, you could see NBC News trying to justify this by I think it's in the comments of the original tweet, but it's Amuse, which is at Amuse, and he says the person behind it is Mary McCord.
01:38:30.000down Trump in order to save our government, which is absolutely ridiculous.
01:38:36.000I think it's in the comments of the original tweet, but it's Amuse, which is at Amuse,
01:38:41.000and he says the person behind it is Mary McCord.
01:38:46.000He says, reminder, the woman behind the coup planning reported on NBC is Mary B. McCord,
01:38:51.000who served as the acting assistant AG for national security from October 2016 to 17.
01:38:56.000You may recall that she reviewed and approved FISA warrants to surveil Carter Page, a former Trump campaign aide.
01:39:01.000The FISA court, which approved these warrants in 16 and 17, later criticized government officials for providing false and misleading information about Page and the infamous Steele dossier.
01:39:08.000McCord is mentioned in the Justice Department Inspector General Report, which identified significant errors and omissions in the FBI's applications for warrants to surveil Page.
01:39:15.000McCord approved the fraudulent FISA applications against Page.
01:39:18.000Later, McCord was appointed to advise the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court as an amicus curiae.
01:39:25.000Her role involves providing advice and expertise on matters related to foreign intelligence collection.
01:39:30.000Today, she is organizing the effort to strip Trump of his power as Commander-in-Chief.
01:39:45.000They kind of dip into, they have their group of deep state and then they just dip into them and put them in different positions all over the government.
01:41:11.000As, of course, they're trying to solidify decisions before Trump is even in office, before he even makes them.
01:41:16.000And to give Trump some credit here, Yuval Harari, the second-in-command to pretty much Klaus Schwab, a head guy at the World Economic Forum... Yuval Harari, yeah.
01:41:27.000I'll call him whatever I want to call him.
01:41:56.000The Time Magazine article actually goes on to list everybody involved because they were, you know, had to celebrate and congratulate each other.
01:42:02.000It says there was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes.
01:44:17.000And then you end up with this viral video of George H.W.
01:44:20.000Bush saying, we can begin to see a new world order.
01:44:24.000New world order goes from being just a descriptive, like an adjective on world order, into a specific proper phrase, the new world order, which becomes a conspiracy theory.
01:44:35.000What I think really happens is, when people started correctly pointing out that these powerful individuals were trying to develop a new type of liberal economic order, What they did was they insert lies.
01:44:46.000This is one way to control when people are getting too close to the truth, is you take control of the movement, of the theories of the anger, and steer them in the wrong direction.
01:44:55.000So then, New World Order becomes some weird conspiracy theory.
01:44:59.000They start injecting fake ideas into it to distract everybody.
01:45:02.000And then, New World Order turns into a conspiracy theory phrase that becomes rather meaningless to the average person, and they dismiss it outright.
01:45:11.000They said that was an anti-Semitic slur.
01:45:13.000And really what it looks like is a bunch of international corporations and the people that run them and the international monetary system and banking system out of Switzerland.
01:45:23.000I don't know if it's only out of Switzerland, like Davos.
01:45:36.000Donald Trump, I don't know if it would be a death blow, but he would be a twist of fate, and it would create a new type of challenge to this handing over of American wealth.
01:45:45.000This $35 trillion that we've printed, the $1.6 they just authorized Congress to use next year, $1.6 trillion, that money, I mean, going to the Ukraine, a lot of it went to the Ukraine.
01:45:55.000It feels like it's being siphoned, that the United States is being siphoned out.
01:45:59.000They're done with this husk of a country to lead the world order.
01:46:03.000They want to do some new country or new, probably corporations, run the new world order I think is probably the recipe of the day.
01:46:10.000You guys ever see those fake viral videos that are super annoying where it's his family and they're walking on piles of hundred dollar bills?
01:46:16.000There's like, there's a video of them and a big tractor trailer full of, like, just probably $50 million and $100 bills, and it's pouring out and they're throwing it in the air.
01:46:25.000It's a really annoying thing that's on Instagram because people watch it because they think it's real.
01:47:25.000So that means hopefully this is the end of the Ukraine war and sending them money.
01:47:30.000I mean, ideally, if I want to be an optimist.
01:47:33.000But then what will happen is if they use BlackRock to try and rebuild the country, you might end up seeing American money go to the rebuilding of the Ukraine, too.
01:47:44.000No matter what happens, it's going to be more American money for the rebuilding of Ukraine.
01:47:46.000And it's not really—you might consider it American money because we, the taxpayers, have to suffer as a result of the siphoning.
01:47:55.000But, you know, you might also argue that it's global money on loan to us.
01:47:59.000Like, the Federal Reserve loans us promissory notes.
01:48:02.000In 1913, man, they took our ability to create our own money away from us and gave it to this quasi-private company called the Federal Reserve that gives us promissory notes.
01:48:11.000They will promise to pay them their money back.
01:48:58.000And in about 10 minutes, we're going to jump to, I will call them the physical super chats of the people who are hanging out who want to ask questions to everybody we've got hanging out.
01:49:07.000There were several, uh, politicians who were slated to stop by who did not make it, unfortunately.
01:49:12.000I'm not surprised, though, considering the weather, which kind of sucks, but it is what it is.
01:49:15.000We came down, and, uh, Vivek, of course, was, uh, supposed to be here at 7.45.
01:49:21.000And, uh, you know, w-w-what are you gonna do about it?
01:49:24.000He's out campaigning, trying to get people to caucus for him.
01:50:09.000Perhaps he was thinking he was going to do better and now his priorities are not in coming on a live show to talk about how he's actually losing.
01:50:15.000I mean, I agree, and I get it, but at the same time, I mean, I guess maybe this is just looking at the bright side.
01:50:20.000He beat Chris Christie, and Chris Christie's, you know, a well-known name.
01:50:24.000He's hard to beat, yeah, no, it's true.
01:50:26.000His run at, you know, politics and stuff.
01:50:28.000Could you imagine Christie actually trying to come out here and go to all the districts?
01:50:56.000But going to Trump supporters and saying, save Trump by voting for me is just like, come on, man, this is not going to work.
01:51:03.000Especially this early, you know, he's still got a ways until he starts actually having to show up in court and stuff like that.
01:51:09.000So there's still, you know, it's not set in stone that he's not going to be on the ballot.
01:51:14.000Although, I mean, personally, I think that it's likely that there'll be a lot of efforts to keep him off the ballot and whatever they can do, they'll do.
01:51:23.000I don't think that it's compelling to the average voter, because I think the average Trump supporter is currently still thinking he's going to be able to beat the charges.
01:51:32.000So when we were planning this whole thing out, the original idea was to come just for today.
01:51:38.000And we ultimately decided, because of the debate with Vivek, we would do this town hall and, you know, have him on.
01:51:45.000And so it ended up working out really, really well.
01:51:48.000But I'm genuinely curious as to, I mean, I'll just say it, like, when we were planning this, Vivek said he would come on the show on Monday following the caucus.
01:51:56.000I'm wondering what changed with the results, what they expected, what happened on the road.
01:52:27.000No, they drove three hours away to six different events and then three hours back, which turned into more like eight hours back because there was a blizzard.
01:53:27.000As much as I think it's important to have the right people in positions of power, just because of the fact that if you have the wrong people in positions of power, they're going to impose Things on your life that you're not interested in, uh, you know, things that even, even...
01:53:43.000The fact that they want to impose things on you is bad.
01:53:47.000That they want to impose things on anyone is bad.
01:54:00.000I don't want to... If you believe voting is going to save you, you're not paying attention.
01:54:04.000We need something more than just voting.
01:54:05.000We need to take personal responsibility for our lives, which I think is more important than anything else.
01:54:10.000And that is, you know, Mike Cernovich had a great tweet a long time ago.
01:54:12.000He said, You know, like, raise your family, protect your kids, and that's the first step.
01:54:19.000Something that effect, and he's right.
01:54:21.000After that, I think culture building, inspiring people, generate, what Vivek is doing, going around and spreading this message to all of these young people is extremely effective for the next generation.
01:54:33.000I'm wondering, however, if DeSantis, Haley, Ramaswamy, and even Trump, if anyone expected the race to be called Literally, like, 20 minutes in.
01:55:49.000I have a feeling the powers that be or the people, whatever you want to call it, I don't know what it is, this deep state thing, that they know Trump's going to get the votes.
01:55:59.000They think Ramaswamy will actually disentangle the system.
01:56:02.000So they don't want to even give him name recognition.
01:56:05.000And so they're letting Trump get the numbers and then they're going to try and find some way to Make him stub his own toe, and then we got, I guess, Ron and Nikki to battle it out.
01:56:17.000I mean, going back to what you were talking about earlier with like a global, a globalist agenda, but with American values, I don't think that that's possible just because The globalist agenda is inherently like socialist, and the socialist agenda goes against our instinct to put ourselves first or our families first.
01:56:35.000It says you have to share everything, you know, and that's just not a natural instinct.
01:56:39.000So real quick, I pulled up the polling from Iowa, from FiveThirtyEight, the aggregate polling from FiveThirtyEight, and Haley was actually expected to defeat Ron DeSantis by a couple points.
01:56:53.000But it does seem to be trending exactly as the polls predicted, which is kind of crazy considering what Vivek was doing, going around and meeting people.
01:57:00.000And the fact that he was winning first-time voters, it's fascinating the polls are as accurate as they are.
01:57:07.000I don't want to get the number wrong, but he spent his own money, and I think it was that.
01:57:10.000But this is just an example of the power of mass media.
01:57:14.000Hitler rose to power because of radio and TV.
01:57:16.000Like the guy, you can drive and spend 15 hours a day, every day, but if you're not using mass media... Yeah, but think about, I mean, think about...
01:57:24.000It's first of all, it's Donald Trump who had like 100% name recognition before he won the presidency in 2016.
01:57:38.000Obviously, it's not a surprise that he won tonight.
01:57:40.000And it really If you think about it, it shouldn't come as a shock that he won by such a large margin.
01:57:46.000His name recognition is almost 100% and the majority of Republicans think that there was at least something unfair about the last election.
01:58:00.000I assume most Republicans kind of agree that all of the different things, all of the mail-in ballots, all those sending out ballots to people, all that stuff changed the dynamic so much that it wasn't a standard election.
01:58:13.000And had it been a standard election, it's likely that Donald Trump would have won.
01:58:17.000So I don't think that this should come as any kind of shock.
01:58:20.000When Time Magazine explained that there was a shadow campaign to fortify the election against Trump, it became clear to most all of them, actually.
01:59:11.000I'm like, oh my god, I'm going to shoot myself.
01:59:13.000You know, the reason I think that a global order that embodies American constitutional ideals is possible is because of the way we've built the United States.
01:59:22.000It's such a vast territory, but we were able to unify 50 different concepts into one kind of gigantic, which would have been thought totally impossible, Before the advent of electricity or discovery of electricity and advent of radio.
01:59:36.000This article is extremely important for everyone who's never heard of to read.
01:59:40.000It outright says, a conspiracy was unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs, They say, quote, That's from Trump.
02:01:02.000It was like, you know, the evildoers in every single movie, before they lose, they sell their dastardly plan to their victim, and then the animals show up and kill them.
02:02:35.000And if you shed your, you know... Anyway!
02:02:39.000I'm gonna say some things I can't say on this platform.
02:02:44.000But yeah, as long as you don't violate my nap, I won't violate your nap.
02:02:48.000And we should respect everyone for who they are, especially if they are free human beings that do awesome things and don't spread bad things to other people.
02:03:22.000How are normal people supposed to consume so much media without becoming black-billed?
02:03:29.000You gotta find ways in your day-to-day life that keep you sane.
02:03:32.000Like working out, sauna, communication with friends and things.
02:03:38.000about real stuff like where your food and like that, that's one way to do it.
02:03:43.000I think, I mean, if we're talking about you're consuming legitimate media that is reporting honestly, blackpilling is an individual state of mind, which I would agree with Ian, you've got to improve yourself, center yourself, figure it out.
02:03:57.000Because I think if you're actually consuming all of the media, we got tons of reasons to be optimistic.
02:04:02.000I know Phil said he's the most black person, blackpilled, the most blackpilled person here.
02:04:10.000We're looking at all these tremendous victories of the last year, and now Nikki Haley's humiliating defeat to Ron DeSantis.
02:04:18.000I mean, we've got reasons to be optimistic.
02:04:38.000It's going to be hard, but I think we win.
02:04:41.000Lift heavy thing, make sad voice stop.
02:04:44.000Yeah, I'd go further just to what they were saying is make sure you have purpose.
02:04:50.000Make sure you love something greater than yourself, and it's easy to not get blackpilled.
02:04:55.000Celebrate the small victories and understand that corruption is being exposed, which is a good thing that you're finally being made aware of.
02:05:02.000I'm going to read a super chat real quick, and then we'll jump to this question.
02:05:05.000Paul Tascalo says, when Vivek called out eminent domain CarbonPipeline, they basically deleted him.
02:05:11.000I was an... How do I scroll on this thing?
02:05:13.000I don't know if it's letting me scroll here on YouTube.
02:05:15.000Let me zoom out so I can get the full thing.
02:08:40.000Actually, this is what I think Bruce Woods was pointing out.
02:08:42.000Elad Eliyahu, who does reporting for SCNR.com, produced several videos coming out of the Haley campaign events where he just... These are not gotcha questions.
02:09:36.000When they put Trump up against Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis, they have some of the latest polls showing what's the percentage going to be Trump v. Biden, DeSantis v. Biden, Haley v. Biden.
02:10:36.000The shadow campaign, we're gonna get an article in 2025 and we're all shocked Nikki Haley's the president, and it's gonna be like, the shadow campaign to win 2024 through the GOP primary.
02:12:14.000I like Vivek not only for his libertarian, but he's very constitutional if you've seen him speak.
02:12:18.000He talks about the founding documents, the founding fathers.
02:12:21.000He knows his history, which I appreciate.
02:12:23.000He knows the real history because everything kind of got switched around in the 60s if you don't know that, but he knows the real stuff and that speaks to integrity.
02:12:31.000I do like a lot of people starting to bring up that DEI is the natural evolution. I like to call it D.I.E.
02:12:37.000It's way better. Because D.E.I. means God and D.I.E. means death. So we'll go with that one. But
02:12:41.000it's the natural evolution of the civil rights laws. And it sort of is. It's the extreme version of
02:12:47.000them. But I always tell people just because someone corrupted a thing doesn't mean that thing
02:13:21.000The only thing that matters is what a society is willing to accept.
02:13:24.000And we mention a lot, there's these laws on the books, and there are blue laws, some of them are called, that were made back in the day that no one follows anymore.
02:13:32.000Like the favorite gag one, which I think is no longer in play, was, women can't go skydiving on Sunday in Florida.
02:13:38.000I think that's, I read about that, like it's been overturned or whatever, but there are weird laws like that.
02:13:42.000No cop's gonna arrest a woman for skydiving in Florida on Sunday.
02:13:45.000But when you look at, you know, the civil rights law and where it's at right now, We're surprised to see how it's being implemented.
02:13:52.000And I think a lot of this has to do with originalist versus textualism.
02:13:56.000People who are like, if it says regulated and today regulated, this is the stupidest argument in the world.
02:14:03.000I mean, these people are just despicable.
02:14:05.000The Second Amendment says, a well-regulated militia.
02:14:08.000Well, we know what the Founding Fathers meant when they wrote it, but because today regulated means government control, that's what it means.
02:14:13.000That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard.
02:14:16.000Why after winning a war where the Redcoats confiscated ammo and guns from the people of Massachusetts, why on earth would the Founding Fathers be like, yeah, you know what?
02:14:25.000We should have the government regulate our guns.
02:15:28.000So do you, especially Luke, have any thoughts on the similarity between Vivek's campaign At the beginning of this election, I always told everyone that what matters here is not who gets the votes, it's the ideas that get pushed.
02:15:41.000out of the picture more. I grew up off of his ideals. Do you see him possibly being
02:15:46.000a Gen Z replacement? At the beginning of this election I always told everyone that what
02:15:51.000matters here is not who gets the votes, it's the ideas that get pushed. It's the Overton
02:15:55.000window that gets pushed. I think Vivek's doing a great job at that.
02:15:59.000There's a lot of Ron Paul people that are within his campaign.
02:16:02.000There's a lot of Ron Paul people that I met on the campaign trail.
02:16:05.000So there is a crossover here as of course a lot of the same ideas, not all of them, but some of these great ideas of freedom.
02:16:14.000You know, liberty, personal responsibility are being shared here.
02:16:18.000And those ideas, especially in the minds of young people, are critically important.
02:16:53.000And then also, what kind of happened to him earlier happened to Ron Paul many, many years ago, as, of course, the corporate media was against him and rigging the process against him in many unfair ways.
02:17:05.000Now, to be fair, CNN.com has this little widget in the left that only has Trump, DeSantis, and Haley.
02:17:12.000But when you click it, they don't hide Vivek Ramaswamy.
02:17:15.000He's included in their list with Asa Hutchinson behind him.
02:19:00.000There was also... Wasn't there some scandal where, like, DeSantis' team said people from out of state should show up or something like that?
02:21:21.000The people who do the actual work that makes this country happen vote on the right, and then the people who are in the institutionalized learning facilities vote left.
02:21:28.000That's the kind of thing that the RNC should be fighting.
02:21:45.000Trying to play ball, like trying to defend the system as it is.
02:21:52.000This is part of the reason why Donald Trump lost, is because the RNC allowed the Democrats in Pennsylvania and stuff to unconstitutionally, according to Pennsylvania's constitution, change the way that electors are sent and stuff.
02:22:07.000It's an absolute failure on Ronna's part, and I don't know why Trump endorsed her.
02:22:20.000They just, they said, from the article I read, they just said that the maps are gerrymandered towards the conservative side, and that, I don't know, I don't remember exactly.
02:22:32.000So, yeah, I'm just, I'm just scared that, because we, right now, our governor is Tony Evers, like my dad likes to say, I don't like Evers, and then our, Congress is mostly conservative.
02:22:45.000So it's just like, Evers does something, the Congress says no.
02:22:49.000Congress does something, Evers says no.
02:22:51.000There's nothing going on in our state right now.
02:23:33.000Especially in Madison, Milwaukee, a lot of people from Illinois are moving to Wisconsin because apparently our welfare benefits are better.
02:23:39.000Well, also because Illinois is just like a failed state.
02:23:42.000But it's like, they're bringing their policies with them.
02:23:50.000Highly likely we'll do another show like this at the RNC for that full week.
02:23:55.000So we'll probably have like a series of shows at some, you know, rented location and then maybe like a bigger show with an audience for Thursday with the final day of the RNC.
02:24:03.000And we're definitely not going to the DNC because it's in Chicago.
02:24:07.000And I feel like someone's gonna get shot.
02:26:18.000So with having friends that are on the left and that are pretty much in the leftist cult, how do you start them out and trying to move them over at all when you have articles like the secret history of how they fortified the election and people that, like Phil said, think that that's a good thing?
02:26:36.000What you do is get a bunch of them, call a bunch of your lefty friends, you've got like 10 or whatever, I don't know, and tell them you've got this great idea for, you know, this cool event they should come to.
02:26:46.000Then you tell all your MAGA friends and you trick them all into going to the community center where you lock the doors and make them stay there overnight so they become friends.
02:27:44.000The reality is to change someone's mind and help them understand, you need to surround them with people who will influence them.
02:27:52.000If you reorient people towards kind of what Occupy Wall Street was about, which is international banking, like that really is the biggest threat to our way of life is corporate Totalitarianism, technocracy, so there is something that all Americans can focus on, at least most Americans can focus on, that we can agree with, that having corporations run our lives is not ideal.
02:28:17.000And you have to be gentle with how you do it because these people, since at least 2012-2013 with the NDAA, they haven't been told they were wrong in a very long time.
02:28:28.000They've had their confirmation bias inflated for 12 straight years.
02:28:46.000Present them with stuff that conflicts with their preconceived notion and just let it go.
02:28:51.000Just let them and like, you know, don't constantly do it.
02:28:55.000But every once in a while be like, oh, you see this or something like that.
02:28:58.000And let them change at their own pace.
02:29:01.000If they feel like you're trying to convince them of anything, the walls go up, the heels get dug in the dirt, just let them change.
02:29:07.000There's a dude that I'm very, very close with that is very anti-Trump and very, very blue-pilled.
02:29:15.000After Joe Biden was elected and after he saw the results, His tone about politics is 100% different than it was right before Joe Biden was elected, and it is much easier to talk to him, but you never try and shove anything down anyone's throat.
02:29:36.000Never try and make anyone see things a different way.
02:32:20.000Um, it's just not all centered in, in Iowa.
02:32:24.000So I think he, he has the potential to, to do better, um, in the future, but, uh, I love going to these events, but they're very, very, very deceiving when you, a lot of the people drive.
02:34:51.000It's about getting on your school board, your sheriff's department, your select board, starting there, working your way into state senate, state representative, and that's where you're going to make the changes.
02:35:01.000When the communists infiltrated America, they started at a very small level and they worked their way up into the Tim, I know you have a hard out in 10 minutes.
02:35:51.000Alright, so my real question is, we talk about dismantling the corporate governments around The FBI, the ATF, the CIA, and everything else.
02:36:03.000But I've been, like, reading the books on tape and so on, and there's a lot of things talking about, like, the dictators down in South America.
02:36:14.000Was it Condor, Project Condor, wherever it was?
02:36:18.000A lot of the times you'd have these systems that are being torn down, and often they're being replaced in the back end through other I don't know about worse, but possibly.
02:36:42.000It just depends on who, it depends on the degree to which we win culturally.
02:36:48.000If, you know, I think that, what did Ron Paul say about...
02:36:51.000Abortion shouldn't be illegal, it should be unthinkable?
02:36:54.000That's an idea that expands well beyond just the concept of abortion.
02:36:57.000So many things should be unthinkable to our culture that are becoming permissible, even though people generally don't like them.
02:37:04.000And so when it comes to, we get, we elect, we elect Donald Trump.
02:37:08.000Let's say in 2028, Vivek is the guy and he ends up winning and he's massively popular for whatever reason.
02:37:13.000And then we get, you know, with Donald Trump, you get the firing of a lot of bureaucrats, the relocation, although Trump has said what he wants to bolster the FBI headquarters or something.
02:37:32.000I think the interesting thing to think about is Why is it that in Russia, you can offer a bribe to a cop with no question and no fear, and in the United States, no one would dare do it?
02:38:13.000So, as this continues to erode, if we don't change this mentality, You will get more and more law enforcement behaving like they do in the collapsed former Soviet states, or the former Soviet states, I'll just call them that.
02:38:28.000When you're at the point where cops are like, I will take money to engage in human smuggling and facilitate crimes against this country, that's worse than accepting bribes.
02:38:39.000Of course the FBI's gonna have massive corruption in it, the CIA of course, the deep state, the intelligence agencies.
02:38:44.000What solves that is when that cop is terrified, he will go to prison for the rest of his life, and that's a guarantee.
02:38:50.000You know, you have this video from Taylor Hanson, Tenet Media, shout out, and the cop's yelling at him.
02:38:57.000He just doesn't think anyone will do anything about it, because the criminals are running the clown show right now.
02:39:02.000I mean, Biden's in office, it's not gonna happen to him.
02:39:05.000But if people find out Oh, then his neighbors are going to yell at him, so he doesn't like being filmed.
02:39:11.000We need to make sure, one, we elect Donald Trump, and if something bad happens, God forbid, someone like Vivek Ramaswamy, if not Vivek, and then we make sure each and every one of these law enforcement officers know, scruples are back baby, we will find you, you will be criminally charged, and you will suffer the consequences for breaking the law.
02:39:31.000Then I don't care if we have an FBI or a CIA.
02:39:34.000I mean, if the FBI was doing what the FBI is, on paper, supposed to be doing, investigating federal crimes, like, let's talk about what the FBI should do.
02:40:50.000And so what's interesting, so this is a little bit pro-Vivek a little bit, is that there needs to be someone that is connecting with people on this level that isn't Trump.
02:41:05.000But he's coming in behind and scooping up people that don't have this Trump mentality of, no way, never, never, never.
02:41:12.000But Vivek is actually selling the American dream better than Trump in the sense of his words, showing it with his family, his kids are there.
02:41:43.000So Vivek is actually painting that picture really well, and if Vivek wasn't part of it, then it's just Trump, and then say he gets in or whatever, it ends with him.
02:41:56.000But we need somebody painting that picture, so then he scoops in all these other people that will actually go to Trump.
02:42:01.000I gotta say, one thing that was pointed out, I can't remember who pointed this out to us, and they said Vivek can never win because even people who know him can't pronounce his name right.
02:42:11.000And the point there is not that his name is odd or whatever, it's that the amount of, like, the fact that, I mean, you called him Vivek, even though he's repeatedly said it's a Veik-like cake and he has to correct people all the time, it means that he's not pushing information enough to individuals to know enough about him.
02:42:43.000Oh, they meant love is better than hate.
02:42:46.000I didn't understand it because his name is just, it's always going to be the proper noun, paramount.
02:42:52.000Vivek is doing a lot of great things, and he's spreading a really great message, but I think it is fair to say that one example of how he's not generating enough is that people don't even know how to say his name.
02:43:10.000I'm hoping he can be the plan B backbench.
02:43:13.000But we do have a couple superchats that have pointed out, after this election, Vivek is gone.
02:43:19.000And the idea is kind of like, what keeps Vivek relevant after this election if he's not chosen for a position in the Trump administration and is not frequenting the press?
02:43:28.000If he goes the podcast route, no, that's great.
02:43:33.000There's not a path from there back to the presidency.
02:43:36.000So I'm not sure what his plan is, but I do think he's a smart enough guy to figure something out.
02:43:40.000The answer's gonna have to be, if we do want Vivek as, you know, the up-and-coming young stars to look forward to in the future, Trump is going to have to embrace Vivek and offer him some kind of position.
02:43:51.000Or, even if it's not, like, a direct cabinet position, it could be some kind of, like, business consulting position where Vivek is kept in the light.
02:43:59.000So that, you know, going to the next cycle, he's there and in front of everyone.
02:44:17.000Well, in that case, thank you all so much for hanging out for this live in Iowa caucus show.
02:44:24.000We're looking at all of the other primary events.
02:44:27.000We're trying to figure it out because I'm not going to say too much.
02:44:30.000March, our plan was for this big show, it may be changing, and I just want to say this, Pittsburgh is an impossible city.
02:44:36.000I guess the leftist influence is too extreme, and the general thing that we're hearing is the venues, let me be very careful how I say this, without naming any individual group, but it would seem they're very terrified of the very active far-left contingent, and The threat of violence is legitimate.
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