Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Twitter ADMITS To FAKE USERS Count, People Claim ITS FRAUD w-Jon Nicosia

00:00:04.000 Twitter's new earnings report is out, and I gotta say, I called it.

00:00:09.000 Their earnings were down.

00:00:10.000 It was obvious.

00:00:11.000 But in this revelation, in this document, we learned something else.

00:00:15.000 And people are already claiming fraud.

00:00:19.000 Twice, Twitter accidentally, so they say, inflated their user numbers.

00:00:25.000 That means that when they sold advertisements, it was against false numbers.

00:00:30.000 That means when Elon Musk agreed to buy the company, it was based on false numbers.

00:00:35.000 And even the left-wing Verge, theverge.com, says, how did this happen twice?

00:00:42.000 Now, many of us are speculating on the weird shift in user growth.

00:00:47.000 Right-leaning channels or right-sphere-of-influence-associated channels are seeing major gains.

00:00:52.000 Left-sphere-of-influence are seeing major decline.

00:00:55.000 I think they were running fake accounts.

00:00:57.000 I think they were banning people on the right and creating fake accounts for people on the left.

00:01:01.000 Since Tuesday, I have gained 100,000 followers, which is around 10% of my follower count.

00:01:08.000 Strange, because I noticed a lot of other people have a similar number of around 8 to 10%.

00:01:08.000 10%.

00:01:13.000 The weird thing is that it starts on Tuesday.

00:01:16.000 On Monday, when the news broke, hmm, nothing.

00:01:19.000 So we're going to get into all of that and boy is this story getting crazy.

00:01:22.000 Then we also have Elon Musk tweeting a meme showing the left going super far left leaving moderates on the right now.

00:01:29.000 And we're going to talk about that because even Barack Obama is now a conservative according to CNN and the Washington Post.

00:01:34.000 CNN plus shut down two days early.

00:01:38.000 They couldn't even fail by their fail date.

00:01:41.000 They had to actually fail earlier than normal because they failed so bad.

00:01:45.000 We got some stories out of Kenosha.

00:01:46.000 Joy Reid is getting canceled.

00:01:48.000 James Corden is quitting.

00:01:50.000 Yo, what's going on?

00:01:51.000 It's like all of a sudden the dam broke and now we're all charging the hill to take the high ground.

00:01:57.000 Sounds good.

00:01:57.000 Let's talk about it.

00:01:58.000 Joining us to talk about all of this is, pronounce your, I'm going to pronounce your last name wrong.

00:02:03.000 Nicosia.

00:02:04.000 Nicosia.

00:02:05.000 All right.

00:02:05.000 Well, introduce yourself.

00:02:07.000 I'm John Nicosia.

00:02:08.000 There you go.

00:02:09.000 President of Cycle Media.

00:02:11.000 Well, so what's your background?

00:02:12.000 What do you do?

00:02:14.000 So, I'm in the media.

00:02:15.000 I was at Mediate for eight years, then IJR, and then to the Washington Examiner as the breaking news editor.

00:02:23.000 I won a down thing and now just consulting.

00:02:26.000 Breaking news.

00:02:26.000 Right on.

00:02:28.000 You've got some stories from the inner workings of the rise in digital media and all that stuff, so I think that'll be particularly interesting considering all the context we've got going on.

00:02:35.000 Yeah, there's a lot going on, and I think there's a reset about to happen, certainly at CNN.

00:02:42.000 And I think a site that big is going to create a wave, along with this happening with Twitter, I think there's a lot of opportunities for sites to reinvent themselves.

00:02:52.000 Because right now the amount of people who hate media outnumbers the people actually watching.

00:03:00.000 I don't think Brian Stelter has an audience.

00:03:02.000 I think you're going to start to see people like Reed and other people who have no audiences

00:03:05.000 that are just kind of there.

00:03:07.000 Brian Stelter and other people who just exist to set narratives are going to find that they

00:03:14.000 don't have a job anymore.

00:03:15.000 I don't think Brian Stelter has an audience.

00:03:16.000 I genuinely mean that.

00:03:18.000 Yeah I mean it's baffling.

00:03:20.000 I mean, there's a school of thought that he was there as Zucker's henchman, which, you know, I happened to be there in January of 2017 when Trump called.

00:03:37.000 What's his name?

00:03:38.000 Fake News pointed down.

00:03:39.000 Jim Acosta?

00:03:40.000 Yeah, Jim Acosta.

00:03:41.000 And I was sitting in the head of PR's office, which is across from Zucker's, and Seltzer had just come off the air.

00:03:48.000 And when he did it, they basically said, well, looks like we're going to war for four years.

00:03:52.000 Wow.

00:03:53.000 And they did.

00:03:54.000 I mean, I thought it was a joke at the time.

00:03:56.000 So I think Brian served a purpose for I mean, you know, Brian was part of a website called TV Newser back in the day that covered the media, you know, and he has some chops on that.

00:04:08.000 And then, you know, everyone just fell apart during Trump.

00:04:11.000 Trump broke him.

00:04:12.000 We'll talk about that.

00:04:13.000 There's a lot of interesting stuff going on.

00:04:14.000 We talked a bit about with these personalities quitting and imploding, but we'll get to all that.

00:04:18.000 So thanks for hanging out, John.

00:04:19.000 And we've got Seamus.

00:04:20.000 Seamus, I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.

00:04:22.000 We upload once a week, with the exception of this week.

00:04:24.000 We're actually going to be uploading extra content next week, so go over there, subscribe, hit the notification bell.

00:04:29.000 I love you all.

00:04:30.000 I'm excited for the show.

00:04:31.000 It's interesting you said that Zucker said a four-year war was about to commence in 2017, because it does feel like they lost last year, CNN.

00:04:39.000 My numbers also are up 2,000% on Twitter.

00:04:41.000 I got 50 followers on Monday, and then I got 50 on Monday, and then 1,115 on Tuesday.

00:04:49.000 From 50 to 1,000.

00:04:49.000 It feels like in the culture war that we won a big battle.

00:04:55.000 A big battle was won when Elon put forth this buy deal, and now the enemy's in a rout.

00:05:00.000 It's as if we're taking multiple, hill after hill, repositioning our strategic offense.

00:05:05.000 It's like, as soon as Elon, it's like, you know, like Gandalf in Battle for Helm's Deep, we go for one last ride, storming through the orcs, and then we see up on the hill and the sunlight comes in, and then all of a sudden the Rohirrims are charging down. 1.00

00:05:05.000 It's true. 1.00

00:05:19.000 But it's not just, as soon as that happened, it's like all of a sudden on every front, like you were saying Ian, just different fields are getting taken.

00:05:27.000 Wow.

00:05:27.000 We'll talk about it.

00:05:28.000 Yeah, this is why they have a Ministry of Truth now that they've announced.

00:05:31.000 They know we're winning.

00:05:31.000 Right.

00:05:32.000 We're starting to win.

00:05:33.000 I think you're right.

00:05:34.000 I think they're starting to notice the mainstream media is falling and that has been the PR wing of the Democratic Party.

00:05:39.000 So I think that's why they're coming.

00:05:40.000 And I think people had a lot to say and now they're not as afraid with Elon out there.

00:05:46.000 I think they see somebody putting money up to, you know, bring back some level of balance.

00:05:52.000 Well, isn't it incredible how as soon as Elon Musk said he wanted to have more fair and equitable rules on the website that would allow people from both sides of the political aisle to voice their opinions, people on the left freaked out and then people on the right just started posting like crazy.

00:06:06.000 Well, we'll see.

00:06:06.000 We'll see.

00:06:07.000 I got a lot to say about this.

00:06:07.000 So, of course, Lydia's pressing the buttons.

00:06:10.000 Yeah, I am, but that's what I'm doing in the corner.

00:06:11.000 I'm just jumping in.

00:06:12.000 Yeah, pushing buttons over here.

00:06:13.000 All right, but we'll talk about that first big story where it looks like Twitter lied or was accidentally wrong.

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00:07:23.000 So thank you guys so much Let's check out this first story from the verge Twitter miscounted its daily users for three years straight.

00:07:33.000 How did this happen twice?

00:07:35.000 Yo, the verge is a progressive website when they point out you're doing something wrong and Something must be really wrong.

00:07:42.000 They report, Twitter overstated the number of daily users on its service for three years straight, over-counting by up to 1.9 million users each quarter.

00:07:51.000 The error was due to Twitter inadvertently counting multiple accounts as active when they were all tied to a single user, even if they weren't in use.

00:08:00.000 These incorrect usage numbers were given for Q1 2019 through Q4 2021.

00:08:05.000 This somehow, this is somehow not the first time Twitter has done this.

00:08:10.000 In 2017, Twitter also realized it had been overstating its user figures by 1 to 2 million for three years.

00:08:16.000 The repeat mistake was revealed today in Twitter's earnings release for the first quarter of 2022.

00:08:22.000 Here's the amazing thing.

00:08:23.000 The earnings report was bad.

00:08:25.000 They were down a bit.

00:08:28.000 I think was it like 30 million less?

00:08:30.000 Let me just pull up the TimCast.com article.

00:08:33.000 Twitter's earnings report shows missed revenue projections.

00:08:36.000 They were projecting $1.23 billion making only $1.2 billion.

00:08:42.000 Now, that's not that bad, but their money is going down, and I predicted this.

00:08:47.000 This likely, in my opinion, would have resulted in a stock drop-off, but because Elon has already agreed to buy it, stock is likely going up or staying the same.

00:08:55.000 In fact, the fact the stock isn't currently sitting at $54.20 says to me there are some people who think the deal won't go through, and it's possible.

00:09:03.000 But this is big, and it could be a reason.

00:09:06.000 Many people on Twitter are now saying, this sounds like fraud, yo.

00:09:09.000 Like Twitter was lying.

00:09:11.000 They were lying to their advertisers.

00:09:13.000 They lied to Elon Musk.

00:09:14.000 I don't think Elon Musk would decide not to buy the platform now, but I wonder what this means for the deal, and I wonder what it means for Twitter's executives.

00:09:22.000 Is anybody going to get in trouble?

00:09:24.000 Yeah, I mean Elon's ability to negotiate downwards.

00:09:27.000 Also, of course, let's point out the fact that Twitter, which has decided that they would take it upon themselves to determine what was or was not misinformation in the outside world, would not even deliver accurate figures on how their website was doing.

00:09:39.000 I'll tell you, man, I worked behind the scenes at Mines developing that company for a decade.

00:09:44.000 And there is no way that they did not know that one person with five accounts is not one person.

00:09:51.000 They're intentionally allowing that to play to overvalue the company.

00:09:56.000 This is insidious.

00:09:58.000 I don't know that for sure, of course.

00:10:00.000 I can't prove that.

00:10:01.000 Let's drive this point home.

00:10:02.000 Ian?

00:10:02.000 You were a co-founder at Minds.com, a social media platform with millions of users.

00:10:08.000 You've seen internals, you actually moderated the platform.

00:10:11.000 In your expert opinion, having run social media infrastructure, Twitter knew that that was wrong.

00:10:17.000 I bet there are 7,500, yes, yes.

00:10:21.000 There are so many employees at that company, 7,500 plus employees.

00:10:24.000 I would imagine 30%, probably 10% of them knew.

00:10:28.000 That's a good point too.

00:10:29.000 Not a single person said, Hey, wait a minute guys.

00:10:32.000 I think if you've got a company that knows if somebody misgendered somebody, uh, you know, if somebody in that can shut them down and are that deep into the daily workings of their site that they didn't somehow know how many people were using it as kind of.

00:10:50.000 They might be calculating daily active logins, which is the dirty game to play because it's the one person logs into five different accounts, then it's still one person.

00:11:00.000 Well, I mean, look, if they couldn't figure out how many people were using their website, all I have to say is they need to learn to code.

00:11:06.000 I knew somebody was going to say that.

00:11:08.000 Yeah, we're waiting for it.

00:11:10.000 Yeah, they do need to learn that.

00:11:11.000 But I don't know what happens.

00:11:13.000 Does anything happen?

00:11:15.000 I mean, look, we're seeing a lot of victories across the board, but does anybody really believe someone will be held accountable for this stuff?

00:11:21.000 I predict that there's going to be a lot more that's going to come out of this closet at Twitter, that this is going to be less of the problem that I think we're going to find out as far as what's been being manipulated over the last X amount of years.

00:11:32.000 Well, as we pointed out earlier, you know, in the intro and the other day, this weird conspiracy theory That I think is backed up by more than enough circumstantial evidence to say there should be a probe.

00:11:43.000 I believe there should be a criminal investigation because Jack Dorsey, as well, I can't remember who else, but I'm pretty sure other people from Twitter have testified before Congress under oath.

00:11:53.000 I'm pretty sure they were all under oath, right?

00:11:54.000 Yep.

00:11:55.000 As saying they did not have political blocks or anything like that.

00:11:59.000 Now we're seeing serious circumstantial evidence that that was not true.

00:12:05.000 Of course, I'm not confident anybody would do anything about it.

00:12:08.000 Well, during the hacking, when we were talking about the day the blue checks disappeared, there was screenshots that were sent out that showed there was a box to click for shadow banding.

00:12:19.000 Like, that was a real thing that got out, that they kind of, you know, whisked away.

00:12:24.000 But there was a lot of, there's a lot of stuff that did come up after that popped up, that they showed these screenshots I mean, the bigger day was that it had been hacked, but then there were all of these screenshots that popped up that there was this, you know, console that showed that there was an ability to kind of quiet certain users.

00:12:43.000 Here's the game they play, though.

00:12:44.000 So if we go back to 2018, we have this story from Endgadget.

00:12:47.000 Twitter's shadow-banning bug unfairly filtered 600,000 accounts.

00:12:51.000 Jack Dorsey confirms this.

00:12:53.000 They say, you know, our algorithms were unfairly filtering 600,000 accounts,

00:12:56.000 including some members of Congress from our search autocomplete.

00:13:00.000 But how did it happen?

00:13:01.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what they would say?

00:13:04.000 Well, it was not political, but it is. The game they'll play is right now, Elon Musk,

00:13:11.000 he posted the meme of me and Vajay Ghati. And it's like the circle where it's like, here's

00:13:15.000 left-wing bias. And And a bunch of leftists were like, is misgendering really political?

00:13:21.000 They're arguing that purposefully deadnaming someone is political.

00:13:25.000 And I'm like, it is.

00:13:26.000 It is not a moral statement.

00:13:28.000 Conservatives do not agree with your worldview and define things differently.

00:13:33.000 It is inherently political.

00:13:35.000 They don't accept that.

00:13:37.000 So they argue, it's not political.

00:13:39.000 So then they'll say, well, we're talking about pronoun use.

00:13:42.000 Has nothing to do with politics, right?

00:13:43.000 Well, they're completely full of it.

00:13:45.000 They know that referring to something as non-political is just a useful rhetorical tool.

00:13:49.000 Everything is political.

00:13:50.000 Exactly.

00:13:51.000 So they'll say everything is political, but then when it comes to something they want to be taken for granted, they'll say, this isn't political.

00:13:57.000 Human rights aren't political.

00:13:58.000 It's like, well, actually the reason a political system exists to a large extent is for us to figure out on a political scale how we treat each other.

00:14:05.000 So yes it is.

00:14:06.000 But also most of these mistakes that if you look back to over the years that were happening just coincidentally were happening to conservatives.

00:14:13.000 I mean you didn't see like CERC, CENC, and all these giant liberals on the right on the left you know their their accounts being shadow banned or losing people or being for that matter being suspended for anything.

00:14:27.000 The the red-headed libertarian a good friend of ours Josie.

00:14:30.000 That's her Twitter follow her at TRHL official She was banned on January 20th of 2021 and reinstated abruptly this year, randomly on Tuesday. 0.92

00:14:43.000 And she said, has this happened to any prominent left-wing profile?

00:14:48.000 No.

00:14:49.000 Not a single one.

00:14:50.000 Has anybody seen anybody?

00:14:52.000 Look, I follow people on the left.

00:14:53.000 I interact with them.

00:14:54.000 I have not seen a single person on the left be like, whoa, my account was just brought back.

00:14:57.000 That's so weird.

00:14:58.000 I've never met a person on the left that had their account suspended.

00:15:01.000 Everyone brought back.

00:15:02.000 There were a handful of people, anti-war, anti-establishment leftists, they got nuked.

00:15:08.000 That's funny.

00:15:10.000 Or people on the left who were part of that rare breed that actually spoke out against the COVID restrictions.

00:15:15.000 Right, right.

00:15:17.000 Yeah, several people from Occupy Wall Street had their accounts nuked.

00:15:21.000 And I think it was because what we're really seeing is establishment versus anti-establishment.

00:15:28.000 And because the people associated with the sphere of influence of the right, or whatever you want to call it, are anti-establishment, they're more likely to get hit.

00:15:36.000 But there were.

00:15:37.000 So, Project Veritas did an exposé, and they found that, I think it's live action, right?

00:15:43.000 That would be Lila Rose's group, yes.

00:15:43.000 Live action?

00:15:45.000 They were being censored by, I think it was Pinterest.

00:15:48.000 That's right.

00:15:49.000 But in that blacklist, I think it was Pinterest, in the blacklist was also anti-media, I think it was.

00:15:56.000 One of these anti-war groups.

00:15:57.000 Yeah, it was an anti-media group.

00:15:58.000 It was anti-media.

00:15:59.000 And Scott Horton, he's from... He's anti-war.

00:16:03.000 He's anti-war, okay.

00:16:04.000 So the anti-media guys are like fairly anti-war.

00:16:06.000 And I said, hey, that's a big deal too.

00:16:08.000 I think what's really happening is if you are in line with the establishment, they don't care in what capacity.

00:16:13.000 Right.

00:16:14.000 You're protected.

00:16:15.000 So being pro-war? 0.91

00:16:17.000 Look at these conservatives, I'm doing air quotes, who are staunchly pro-war and align themselves with Democrats.

00:16:23.000 They're all fine.

00:16:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:16:24.000 I don't think Liz Cheney's going to get shadow banned anytime soon. 1.00

00:16:27.000 I don't think anyone was ever concerned about that for her.

00:16:29.000 Well, what do you mean by that?

00:16:29.000 No.

00:16:30.000 It depends on the network, I suppose.

00:16:31.000 allowed to have blacklists, social media networks?

00:16:33.000 No.

00:16:34.000 Well, what do you mean by that?

00:16:35.000 Have like behind the scenes lists that they can put you on that why not change the way that you see the network?

00:16:42.000 It depends on the network, I suppose.

00:16:43.000 I think the change has to come once a platform reaches a certain size.

00:16:47.000 Yeah.

00:16:48.000 So if you have a blog that reaches 100,000 people and it's like, you know, a cowboy living blog

00:16:54.000 and you allow people to post their cowboy stories, I think it makes sense to be like,

00:16:57.000 hey, it can only be cowboy stuff.

00:16:59.000 But if you have Twitter, which markets itself to everyone.

00:17:03.000 And it's open to all to have, you know, the free speech wing of the free speech party.

00:17:07.000 And then you start deciding, no, no, no, no.

00:17:09.000 At that point, it's there's something bad going on.

00:17:11.000 I mean, there were rulings that when Trump was banning people when he was president, that he had to unban them.

00:17:16.000 I think there was a case.

00:17:17.000 So, I mean, I think the courts are getting to a point where the courts eventually are going to weigh in on this, that, you know, a town square certainly has a certain level of protection that I think is kind of just making its way through the system.

00:17:32.000 But we'll get there.

00:17:33.000 Yeah, and you know, Trump wasn't even banning people.

00:17:35.000 He was just blocking that.

00:17:37.000 That's why I meant blocking.

00:17:38.000 No, it's true.

00:17:39.000 But also, we were talking about this, I believe, two episodes ago, but that would be pretty in line with the decision of Marsh v. Alabama.

00:17:45.000 Again, I'm no lawyer, but it was basically decided by the Supreme Court in 1946 that even if you own a company town and it's your own private property, if you open yourself up to the public square to a large enough extent, you have to import the First Amendment, basically, or the civil rights that would be due to the people in that jurisdiction.

00:18:03.000 I think that makes sense.

00:18:05.000 What about Verizon?

00:18:07.000 Verizon now.

00:18:07.000 Phone companies?

00:18:08.000 Yeah.

00:18:09.000 Public?

00:18:10.000 No, they're a common care utility.

00:18:11.000 They shouldn't be allowed to do that.

00:18:13.000 They should have to provide service.

00:18:15.000 But you know what they do?

00:18:16.000 They play dirty games.

00:18:17.000 So AT&T wouldn't let me open an account unless I gave them cash up front.

00:18:21.000 And I was like, I don't want AT&T that bad.

00:18:25.000 I was, you know, because when you travel, you want multiple networks.

00:18:29.000 So particularly, we have a cellular bonding unit for when we're on the road that combines a bunch of different cell signals into one.

00:18:35.000 That way you can do better broadcast stuff.

00:18:38.000 So I said, the best thing to do is to get multiple networks to avoid congestion.

00:18:42.000 And AT&T was like, oh, you can sign up here, but you've got to give us $600 up front.

00:18:47.000 And then I was like, you want me to give you 600 bucks in cash right now just to sign up?

00:18:50.000 And then what happens to that money?

00:18:51.000 We hold it.

00:18:52.000 It's like, I don't need your service, dude.

00:18:54.000 But that's one thing they do to block you.

00:18:57.000 So imagine, imagine you make 20 bucks an hour.

00:19:00.000 Can you afford to make a deposit that large?

00:19:03.000 This is what they do to poor people to say, we are not blocking them from the service.

00:19:08.000 We just need a security deposit, which blocks them from the service.

00:19:11.000 I don't think you would need a lot of these laws and stuff.

00:19:15.000 That's why I think when Musk put that poll out, do you feel that this is fair?

00:19:21.000 And it was 70% no to free speech.

00:19:24.000 I think most Americans are kind of even keeled and they can see.

00:19:28.000 I think if both sides felt that they were being treated fairly, there would be no problem.

00:19:31.000 That's not possible.

00:19:32.000 Right, right.

00:19:34.000 The issue is, I'd like you all to imagine something.

00:19:37.000 Imagine there is a big sphere of water.

00:19:40.000 Right.

00:19:40.000 and there's a right side of it and a left side of it.

00:19:42.000 At some point, a small bud started to emerge on the left side and it got bigger and bigger and bigger

00:19:49.000 until it eventually budded off and flopped onto the ground.

00:19:52.000 That same sphere still has a left and a right, but now there's this new sphere, multicultural democracy,

00:19:59.000 staring at its parent, constitutional republic.

00:20:02.000 So that budded sphere of influence doesn't care for principles or morals. 0.72

00:20:07.000 It wants power.

00:20:08.000 It wants to grow.

00:20:09.000 It will never be satisfied.

00:20:11.000 So there's no making it happy.

00:20:13.000 Elon Musk says he wants everyone to be equally happy or upset.

00:20:15.000 I'm like, ain't gonna happen.

00:20:16.000 Usually when the buds fall off the tree, they get eaten by like a zebra who walks away and poops it out somewhere else.

00:20:22.000 That's how the trees spread their seed.

00:20:24.000 So maybe that's what this is.

00:20:25.000 I think it's withering.

00:20:26.000 I think what we're seeing now with Twitter in panic, with these weird algorithmic changes, with CNN Plus collapsing, with Joy Reid losing her job, with James Corden quitting.

00:20:36.000 With all of these things, what we're seeing is that it can't survive on its own.

00:20:42.000 It butted off, but it has no source of energy.

00:20:45.000 And so people like Cenk Uygur and Brian Stelter and all these people who decided to join that sphere are now watching the walls close in on them as it dries out, as its life energy is evaporating all around it, unable to sustain itself, and they'll regret it.

00:20:59.000 Well, I think it has to do with also like ratings.

00:21:02.000 There has to be anger and a reason for people to come to something.

00:21:06.000 And if you look at ratings on MSNBC versus CNN, you know, if there's a Giant terror attack.

00:21:11.000 You guarantee that CNN is going to beat everyone because people run to these things.

00:21:15.000 And I think that these types of these types of products pull people towards it.

00:21:22.000 And you know, there was a giant people.

00:21:25.000 There were a lot of people invented during the Trump era that fed off of the rage.

00:21:29.000 Well, so let me let me pull up this next story from the Daily Mail.

00:21:31.000 It's actually just a meme.

00:21:33.000 Elon Musk hints he's shifted to the right over the last 14 years.

00:21:36.000 No, no Daily Mail.

00:21:38.000 That is not what he's saying.

00:21:39.000 It's hilarious.

00:21:40.000 As liberals morphed into woke progressives.

00:21:43.000 He is not saying he shifted to the right.

00:21:44.000 He's quite literally saying he has not moved at all.

00:21:47.000 In this image, I believe it's a meme from Colin Wright.

00:21:50.000 That's correct, yeah.

00:21:51.000 Congratulations, Colin.

00:21:52.000 Very cool.

00:21:53.000 He posted a meme of me and now a meme of you.

00:21:55.000 It is just a winning week for us.

00:21:57.000 In 2008, you can see there's the right-wing conservatives, the left-wing liberals, and there's me, left of center.

00:22:03.000 And it says, my fellow liberal.

00:22:05.000 In 2012, the left started moving way further left, and now me was closer to the center because left and right were spreading further apart.

00:22:13.000 By 2021, me, the character in the comic, has stayed in the exact same place.

00:22:18.000 But the left has gone so far left that me is now closer to conservative.

00:22:23.000 And you know what's funny?

00:22:25.000 Elon Musk posted that.

00:22:28.000 I always mix the next word up in Elon Musk.

00:22:31.000 Elon Musk posted that and I said, that perfectly explains this show and me.

00:22:36.000 We are not conservatives.

00:22:38.000 We have always been—well, Seamus is conservative, for sure.

00:22:41.000 I'm conservative, definitely.

00:22:42.000 Same here.

00:22:42.000 But I mean, like, me personally and, you know, the stuff I've been working on.

00:22:46.000 You know, I got started covering news and media with Occupy Wall Street.

00:22:50.000 I was politically active, writing punk music and protesting war with all these liberals, voting for Obama in 2008.

00:22:57.000 And then, throughout the next—you know, Bernie Sanders.

00:23:01.000 He was opposed to immigration.

00:23:03.000 He said open borders was a Koch brothers proposal.

00:23:05.000 He wanted to help the working class.

00:23:06.000 He said gun rights was an urban versus rural issue.

00:23:08.000 And I'm like, I like this guy.

00:23:10.000 He's been consistent.

00:23:11.000 He's standing up for these things.

00:23:12.000 I can respect that.

00:23:13.000 And then Bernie decided to run along with the left, as did so many other personalities.

00:23:18.000 And they sacrificed any sense of principle and conviction for tribe.

00:23:23.000 So here I am standing in the same place, and now they're like, you're right wing.

00:23:26.000 And I'm like, that's exactly my point.

00:23:28.000 So you've got this memes posted, and this dude, this guy Max, verified Twitter user, posts it and says, the right literally tried to overthrow the government, the left nominated Joe Biden.

00:23:40.000 And I'm like, you're proving the point.

00:23:43.000 Nearly every single right-wing person condemned what happened on January 6th, said it was wrong.

00:23:49.000 Some of those prominent right-wing individuals all said the violence was a big mistake and they shouldn't have done it.

00:23:55.000 You didn't just elect Joe Biden.

00:23:57.000 You are pushing for strange, secret sexual conversations among children.

00:24:04.000 There's outright leftist policy, like Bernie Sanders wants 20% of corporations to be owned by the workers.

00:24:10.000 And you have, my friends, the Green New Deal. 0.93

00:24:12.000 This is what I referenced.

00:24:14.000 If you look at my videos, It was back in 2018, I think, when AOC was talking about the Green New Deal.

00:24:21.000 I said, fantastic.

00:24:22.000 I love the idea.

00:24:23.000 The government should be taking this tax money and investing in wind farms, you know, solar energy, roads, bridges.

00:24:30.000 Let's get the infrastructure built back up because these bridges are crumbling.

00:24:33.000 We can't live this way.

00:24:34.000 AOC is finally about to announce the Green New Deal.

00:24:36.000 And I'm like, let's see it.

00:24:37.000 And she goes, free health care for black people. 0.93

00:24:40.000 And I'm like, okay, wait, hold on.

00:24:42.000 All right, you want to have a conversation about racial issues and, you know, they say people of color.

00:24:48.000 I'm down, but what does this have to do with wind farms?

00:24:51.000 So here I am actually looking at environmental policy.

00:24:54.000 Instead, what do we get?

00:24:54.000 Critical race theory.

00:24:57.000 So I'm not taking away Seamus.

00:25:00.000 Well, no, I mean, this is something we see the left doing constantly.

00:25:03.000 You guys all know my theory.

00:25:05.000 Leftism is just a word that we give to social decay.

00:25:07.000 Things change very quickly when they're breaking down.

00:25:10.000 So you demolish a building, it falls a lot more quickly.

00:25:13.000 than it took to put the thing together in the first place.

00:25:17.000 Of course, there are a lot of people who are considered to be on the left who are now looked at

00:25:21.000 as right-wing figures, and not only that, but far-right figures.

00:25:23.000 Now, I'm only 27 years old, and yet I am old enough to remember when you had to be conservative

00:25:29.000 in order to be considered far-right.

00:25:30.000 Now you can be a pretty middle-of-the-road moderate type, or even a soft liberal, and be considered far-right.

00:25:36.000 I can straight up be like, well, I, for one, think we need a progressive tax

00:25:40.000 in universal basic healthcare.

00:25:42.000 And they're like, he's far right.

00:25:43.000 He's far right.

00:25:43.000 Well, it's just a pejorative now.

00:25:45.000 It's just a label like anything else to put you down, call you a racist, far right.

00:25:50.000 And then people hope after the first label, you don't read about what you're actually saying.

00:25:55.000 I like alt-right.

00:25:58.000 What is that?

00:25:58.000 Is that up?

00:25:59.000 Is alt-right actually down?

00:26:01.000 Well, it's the new Nazi, I think, was the kind of, during Trump, was the alt-right.

00:26:07.000 The alt-right had a lot in common with the woke left in terms of their racial ideologies.

00:26:12.000 So racism.

00:26:12.000 In fact, that's actually how the alt-right explained it in many circumstances.

00:26:19.000 It was actually expressed to me that the alt-right is basically Black Lives Matter for white people.

00:26:25.000 Yeah, the white purity movement. 0.80

00:26:27.000 No, no, no.

00:26:28.000 White purity? 0.96

00:26:29.000 That's a bit much.

00:26:30.000 It's like pride.

00:26:32.000 No, no, no.

00:26:32.000 What they were literally saying was, you can accuse them of secretly believing whatever they want.

00:26:38.000 What many of these guys were publicly saying was, white rights.

00:26:43.000 They were like, all we're trying to do is make sure that, you know, we have equal rights.

00:26:47.000 And look, you can call them liars, but that's what they were publicly stating.

00:26:49.000 I had a lot of moderate minds. 0.93

00:26:52.000 I'd see a lot of white purity stuff that was really annoying. 0.98

00:26:54.000 That's totally different.

00:26:55.000 I mean, that's white purity stuff. 0.96

00:26:56.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:26:57.000 But that's, I think, where the alt-right came from, is they thought that that was this dangerous racist, white racist movement.

00:27:02.000 But this Black Lives Matter is very similar.

00:27:04.000 I'm not going to say the exact same thing, but it's also like a race movement.

00:27:07.000 The general idea which allowed the literal neo-Nazis to recruit was that they were going to young white men Who were frustrated for a variety of reasons, couldn't find work, and they were saying, hey, you see all those memes? 0.65

00:27:21.000 All those news stories about how white people are bad and evil?

00:27:24.000 Doesn't that frustrate you and make you angry? 0.99

00:27:26.000 Join us!

00:27:27.000 And they would say, okay, my grievance has now been addressed.

00:27:30.000 Yeah, and it'd be a normal guy would be like, okay, fine.

00:27:32.000 And then he'd make a post that would say, it's okay to be white. 0.65

00:27:35.000 And you'd be like, and then they'd be like, oh, he's he's indicating racism.

00:27:39.000 This is a racist movement.

00:27:40.000 You know, and then the left, it's, there's this kind of push on both sides.

00:27:43.000 And then, you know, you make this symbol, this firefighter maid, and now he's a white guy.

00:27:48.000 And there was this whole media circus behind all of it that took, you know, I'm sure there are plenty of, you know, white supremacist fringes in that movement, but the vast majority of them were probably just guys saying, I'm a straight white guy.

00:28:04.000 What's wrong with me?

00:28:05.000 And then you get this pushback from the left saying you're this, that, and the other thing, and you make them more extreme because you're continually trying to one up each other.

00:28:13.000 Yeah, I mean, and when you look at how hard the left has to reach and grasp its straws in order to conjure up any kind of narrative of America being a white supremacist country, basically all the hate crime narratives we hear end up being completely false upon further investigation.

00:28:27.000 They don't hold up to the slightest scrutiny.

00:28:30.000 Every single time they accuse someone of being racism, it's because they dog whistled a dog whistle, which was also a dog whistle that could possibly have some racist meaning behind it.

00:28:38.000 That only they could hear and somehow only left-wing people end up hearing.

00:28:41.000 But also you would hear things like, you know, Asian hate, Asian hate, Asian hate. 0.96

00:28:45.000 And then you would, you know, look further and it was a black guy with an Asian girl. 0.99

00:28:49.000 Black guy, black. 0.98

00:28:51.000 And then you watched in the media that the race, which was just part of as being in an editor, 0.63

00:28:55.000 you would ask their age and normally their race, normally just started to vanish.

00:29:00.000 So if it was a group of five black kids, it would just save five people. 0.96

00:29:04.000 If it was five white men doing something to somebody else, you'd see something, 0.70

00:29:07.000 especially if it was a white guy going after an Asian, they would always show that it was a white guy.

00:29:12.000 And then I found out that it was a lot of others.

00:29:16.000 I'm not sure if y'all remember a couple of years ago.

00:29:19.000 There were there was a group of black young adults who kidnapped a white young adult with autism and tortured him for days and It was a consistent trend that in media they were referred to as kids and he was referred to as a man and Were they under 18?

00:29:35.000 Even though they were all over the age of 18.

00:29:37.000 Oh, that's weird.

00:29:38.000 Yep.

00:29:39.000 Because, and it's the same thing, whenever you have any kind of racial narrative,

00:29:42.000 if the white person is the victim and they're attacked by another minority group

00:29:46.000 or a minority group, then the race is left out of it.

00:29:49.000 But if there's a minority being attacked by a white person, of course the racial identity is front and center.

00:29:56.000 Ethnic identity is front and center in the report.

00:29:58.000 It feels like there's a very small minority of vocal racists that were like white supremacist racists that use social media to amplify it. 0.87

00:30:05.000 And then there's a very small minority of black supremacists, these people that are like trying to run the black racist movement. 0.91

00:30:11.000 And we're caught in the middle. 0.92

00:30:12.000 Most people are. 0.88

00:30:13.000 And they're like, what in the hell?

00:30:14.000 But then it starts to seep into the politics.

00:30:17.000 And then you're like, oh, God, we got to take control of our government.

00:30:19.000 What?

00:30:20.000 No.

00:30:20.000 I'm gonna pull up this tweet from Nate Silver. He says, folks, it's not that hard. The left has moved to the left

00:30:26.000 in the US and the right has moved to the right. What? That's not true. No. Pew Research actually tracked and I think

00:30:33.000 they did this based on the language used by both parties.

00:30:36.000 Yes. It is plain to see. The The right has moved a little bit to the right.

00:30:41.000 Okay, fine, fair point.

00:30:42.000 The left has gone completely off the rails.

00:30:45.000 So from where I'm standing, I can't even see where the left is.

00:30:48.000 I'm like, what are they doing?

00:30:50.000 I look over to my right and I'm like, oh, there's a guy who doesn't believe in gay marriage.

00:30:52.000 I'm like, but that's recognizable to me.

00:30:54.000 I disagree, but I've seen that before.

00:30:56.000 The difference as a gay man, let me just tell you that. 0.89

00:30:59.000 The difference was, In the past, if you weren't against gay marriage, that was fine. 0.67

00:31:06.000 That was one thing.

00:31:07.000 Now, the left has to destroy you for that view.

00:31:12.000 So the old left would just be like, you know, give them a chance.

00:31:15.000 It's not going to change your life. 0.91

00:31:17.000 And now they're finding out where you work so they can tell you're a BLAS, you're a homophobe. 0.97

00:31:21.000 That's the, from a gay man's point of view, who looks at all this insanity and sees that, I've seen that change. 0.98

00:31:28.000 Where you could just disagree.

00:31:29.000 Like say, I don't think that, I think it's a traditional thing that, you know, man and a woman.

00:31:34.000 Go have your civil unions. 1.00

00:31:36.000 Fine.

00:31:36.000 The liberal in the audience would be just like, oh, you know, you should really think that over.

00:31:41.000 Now the liberal in the audience gets on Twitter, tells them who you are and has you fired.

00:31:45.000 And that's how far the left have gone with these types of things.

00:31:50.000 And you can pick any topic and they'll do the same thing.

00:31:54.000 I do believe that the right has gone further right.

00:31:57.000 It's just been banned off of social media because I had to administer these people on mines.

00:32:02.000 Like I saw them exodus from Twitter, YouTube and Facebook and like they were very extreme.

00:32:06.000 I think what's happened is when I think and I hate to keep saying Trump all the time, but when he came along.

00:32:13.000 An industry popped up where you had this disinformation.

00:32:17.000 For some reason, we had social media for years that didn't need fact-checkers.

00:32:22.000 CNN was from the 80s and didn't have a front and focal fact-checker that needed to come out every 10 minutes, Dale, and tell you what was right.

00:32:30.000 That's what the journalist was supposed to do.

00:32:33.000 And I think what happened over the years was that the highlighting of these terrible things were amplified.

00:32:41.000 And so an event occurred.

00:32:42.000 There was six people.

00:32:44.000 Now there's white nationalism.

00:32:45.000 And then Trump must like that. 0.93

00:32:49.000 If you're a conservative today, then you agree that people should burn down the Capitol.

00:32:53.000 I mean, that's where we are in your Discord these days.

00:32:56.000 If you're a conservative, or you voted for Trump, then you think that the riots were fine.

00:33:00.000 I want to point out another big issue in all of this too, and I have this Pew research.

00:33:05.000 Democrats and Republicans more ideologically divided than in the past, and we can see 9404 2014.

00:33:11.000 This is the chart that's often cited by many people.

00:33:13.000 There's another one that updates it and it shows a later year, I think 2018.

00:33:16.000 You can see in this chart, at the very least, that in the 90s, Democrats and Republicans overlapped greatly.

00:33:21.000 In 2004, they did quite a bit.

00:33:23.000 Republicans had a bit more.

00:33:25.000 By 2014, the Democrats have moved much further left than the Republicans have moved to the right.

00:33:30.000 You can see by looking down here at the bottom right.

00:33:33.000 Now, the Democrats jumped, I think, like three or four points to the left and the Republicans have moved like one or two.

00:33:39.000 Here's the fascinating thing.

00:33:40.000 Nate Silver has another bit of data from Pew Research saying the exact opposite.

00:33:45.000 This killed me.

00:33:46.000 This shows the Democrats staying static and the Republicans going to the far right.

00:33:50.000 But Nate Silver also said Hillary was gonna win. 0.98

00:33:52.000 But these are both from Pew Research.

00:33:56.000 So what'll happen is Nate Silver chooses this and says, see, the Republicans went far right.

00:34:00.000 And then what did we just cite a moment ago?

00:34:02.000 I cited the data saying the opposite.

00:34:04.000 So I just, I throw this in the garbage.

00:34:06.000 I'll tell you this.

00:34:07.000 The only real change I've had in my politics is gun rights.

00:34:11.000 I used to be kind of middle of the road, like, maybe there could be some gun control.

00:34:14.000 And now I'm like, no gun control.

00:34:15.000 Everybody gets 50 BMGs.

00:34:17.000 Everything else is basically the same.

00:34:19.000 Mine's social medicine.

00:34:20.000 I used to be all about it, but now I see these people that just eat crappy food and refuse to stop.

00:34:24.000 I'm not gonna pay for them.

00:34:27.000 No one with any sense can take a chart like that seriously.

00:34:29.000 It's just something that left-wing people believe in because they buy into all the hate hoaxes they hear from the media and they genuinely believe that America has become a fascist country because Donald Trump was elected fairly in 2016.

00:34:41.000 We did a video about this for Freedom Tunes where we debunked a similar analysis that Carlos Maza was using and so we sort of went through and pulled it apart but In order to get figures like this, the one that we debunked specifically, which I'm sure uses a similar methodology, basically put Obama and Harry Truman on the same level with respect to how far to the left they were. 0.56

00:35:06.000 Anyone who knows anything about history or either of those men will tell you that that's absolutely ridiculous.

00:35:10.000 And you mentioned earlier that Obama is on the right, technically speaking, or according to the analysis you brought up earlier, he was the most far left president we had ever had up until the point when he was elected.

00:35:21.000 He campaigned on universal healthcare.

00:35:23.000 A dramatic and complete overhaul of our healthcare system to the left.

00:35:27.000 That was substantial.

00:35:28.000 And, as a senator in Illinois, he voted against the Born Alive Act, which would prevent you from being able to kill the child after they were born if the abortion failed.

00:35:39.000 Let me address this tweet from Sawyer Hackett, who responded to Nate Silver.

00:35:43.000 Sawyer is a blue-check, co-host of Our America Podcast, and he says, The left. 0.73

00:35:48.000 Healthcare should be free, I think.

00:35:50.000 The right. 0.97

00:35:51.000 Washington is run by a cabal of child-trafficking pedos, and we should violently overthrow—meh. 0.98

00:35:56.000 Both sides, am I right? 0.98

00:35:58.000 Well, let's break this down.

00:36:00.000 The left is some people who think healthcare should be free.

00:36:04.000 But would that include me?

00:36:05.000 Well, I just said I think we should have universal basic healthcare.

00:36:08.000 I say that all the time.

00:36:10.000 No, it doesn't include me.

00:36:11.000 I also don't think Washington is run by a cabal of child trafficking, you know, whatever.

00:36:15.000 I think that's just corrupt people doing corrupt things.

00:36:18.000 I do think people like Epstein have a strange amount of influence among powerful global elites, but that's a fact.

00:36:25.000 So what is he really referring to?

00:36:27.000 What they're doing is, either they're completely blind or they lie as a means to an end.

00:36:32.000 When they say, by any means necessary, when they smash windows, when they kill, when they lie, cheat, and steal, and then they look at a group of, you know, 800 or so people who violently rioted at the Capitol, and we sit here and say, that was wrong, they shouldn't have done that, and those who are violent will go to prison, they ignore that outright.

00:36:47.000 When they lie and make up things about the parental rights and education bill, this is the game they play.

00:36:53.000 Now, there are people on the right who play a similar game for sure.

00:36:56.000 But look, I'm approaching this from... I read different news sources.

00:36:59.000 I use ground.news and look at the bias and ownership of these news outlets.

00:37:03.000 They can show you if it's conglomerate, private interest.

00:37:05.000 They can tell you if it's left-leaning or right-leaning.

00:37:07.000 And what I find is that on the right, For whatever reason, someone like Ben Shapiro, one of the most prominent conservative personalities, whether or not people like him, he's very famous with one of the biggest podcasts in the country, nay, the world, and he is a very moderate conservative guy.

00:37:23.000 He's not far right.

00:37:25.000 He's got your traditional conservative positions, and he bases his assessments on fact.

00:37:30.000 On the left you have people like Rachel Maddow, who for years said insane things about Russia. 0.98

00:37:35.000 Cenk Uygur, who just called for intervention in Ukraine because he thinks Russians are waging this war because they want to kill gay people. 0.96

00:37:42.000 You have people like Joy Reid, who didn't she claim that she got hacked? 0.98

00:37:47.000 Yes.

00:37:47.000 But didn't they debunk that?

00:37:49.000 No, she wasn't hacked.

00:37:50.000 She had written all these anti-gay homophobic things and then, you know, she was going to get investigated and then that vanished. 0.79

00:37:58.000 Lies. 0.99

00:37:58.000 Oh yeah. 0.99

00:37:59.000 Let me, let me go through the, should we go through the lies again?

00:38:01.000 I mean, do we really have to keep doing this list?

00:38:03.000 We only have like an hour and a half left.

00:38:06.000 Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:38:07.000 The Daily Beast has now been rated as caution, fake news.

00:38:10.000 I'm adding the fake news part, but caution, you know, very big violation of journalistic ethics by NewsGuard.

00:38:16.000 And it's primarily because everything they report on Kyle Rittenhouse was wrong and they refuse to correct it.

00:38:23.000 That's the left.

00:38:24.000 That is the establishment, and it is the people who are like, you know, you've got these leftist personalities who are like, well, I don't like the Democrats.

00:38:31.000 I'm on the left.

00:38:32.000 But you all should vote for Joe Biden. 0.86

00:38:34.000 Joe Biden is a corrupt authoritarian, and these people supported him, so spare me. 0.90

00:38:39.000 At the very least, I can explain Donald Trump. 1.00

00:38:41.000 He's a bull rampaging through the ivory tower. 0.74

00:38:43.000 Don't like him and the things he does?

00:38:44.000 That's fine.

00:38:45.000 He was a bull rampaging through the ivory tower.

00:38:48.000 I could accept that, but I like some of his policies.

00:38:50.000 They play this game.

00:38:51.000 Where they they're they're obtuse on purpose or they're genuinely just broken people.

00:38:56.000 Well they also in the media they'll they'll just leave facts out and they do look the Covington kids you can go down the list of things and if you own the shop like they do they're not going to report it and they've they've lived through this whole existence where they're not used to being called out and they you know Roger Ailes said to me once about, you know, and he's famously said to it in public that, you know, there's 30 liberal sites and organizations on the left and there's just us.

00:39:26.000 And they can't, they lose their mind over us.

00:39:29.000 And it's because they call Fox like the canary in the coal mine.

00:39:32.000 So you notice if you've watched Fox, and God only knows I lived my life doing this for a living, which was, they've been talking about the border for months and months and months.

00:39:42.000 And now all of a sudden you start to see this creep into CNN and Title 42 and what are we going to do?

00:39:48.000 And you're like, if you've been watching Fox, you've heard about it since, you know, last year when they were coming

00:39:53.000 across the border.

00:39:54.000 So the media has famously, when it comes to writing about the left or the right, they will pick it. 0.96

00:40:01.000 It's the gay, you know, the gay don't say gay bill.

00:40:03.000 You know, nothing in the bill said gay. 0.89

00:40:06.000 And yet it's, if you looked at the headlines, they just copied and pasted off.

00:40:10.000 They went just because, you know, I've worked in newsrooms.

00:40:14.000 It's a bunch of 20 year old people afraid to not go on a date.

00:40:18.000 And it's a bunch of old editors who are afraid to get yelled at on Twitter or afraid to not go on a date.

00:40:26.000 Afraid that they won't.

00:40:28.000 I've seen it in conservative newsrooms in D.C.

00:40:30.000 where you still have young people who are quote-unquote conservatives, but they are very in tune to what people are saying to them about them on Twitter because they have to live in this liberal city.

00:40:43.000 You know, what we're seeing with everything is fierce ability to come back at people like, you know, you do and other people they, you know, you will say what you mean and not worry about it.

00:40:53.000 Whereas you have so many people who are terrified because they see what happens to people.

00:40:58.000 They get canceled.

00:40:59.000 I mean, you know, this libs of TikTok comes out there and just basically just rewrites what people not saying you didn't change the video.

00:41:06.000 Yeah, it's like Hillary's emails.

00:41:08.000 Nothing in those emails were made up.

00:41:10.000 That's what they said. 0.99

00:41:11.000 You know, people read them and, oh, these people are crazy.

00:41:14.000 But the libs of TikTok is a perfect example.

00:41:16.000 She has a million followers now because of these people.

00:41:18.000 But they were so threatened by just... But all it did was bring and take the filter out of the media.

00:41:24.000 Because do you think the media is going to go look at what people are saying about kids being taught this or that in school?

00:41:29.000 Because those are the facts.

00:41:30.000 Take a look at this story from 2019.

00:41:33.000 When did Barack Obama become a Republican?

00:41:35.000 I don't know.

00:41:35.000 Oh boy.

00:41:36.000 How about this one from the Washington Post?

00:41:37.000 November 22, 2019.

00:41:39.000 Barack Obama.

00:41:40.000 Conservative.

00:41:42.000 Yeah, so when they're like, the right has moved to the right.

00:41:44.000 And also, Barack Obama, who's in favor of universal healthcare, is a conservative and Republican.

00:41:49.000 Y'all have lost the plot.

00:41:50.000 There's not even a point to reading through this stuff at this point.

00:41:50.000 I'm sorry.

00:41:53.000 Well, here's the thing, Barack Obama is not to the left as the niche far left ideology that like some 16 year old on Twitter is posting about, therefore he's on the right.

00:42:03.000 Right.

00:42:05.000 I don't know.

00:42:06.000 I can't contribute because I don't know what the right and the left are anymore.

00:42:09.000 Donald Trump was a liberal guy that ran for the Republican Party.

00:42:12.000 Tribe.

00:42:13.000 I guess so.

00:42:13.000 It's tribe.

00:42:14.000 And depending on where you're standing, your feelings, it's left or it's right.

00:42:18.000 I think it's a community.

00:42:20.000 But Trump was the guy, I said this before, when you were the boomer, me, or Gen X, yelling at the TV, he yelled back.

00:42:29.000 For years they would scream at the TV about immigration or something.

00:42:33.000 And for once a politician actually yelled back at them.

00:42:36.000 And they heard them.

00:42:37.000 Like somebody heard me yelling.

00:42:39.000 And they went out in droves.

00:42:40.000 I have friends up in Massachusetts who are staunch liberals who are like, you know what?

00:42:45.000 I'm going to vote for him because I've seen Hillary and I don't want that.

00:42:48.000 But he speaks to me.

00:42:50.000 Now, you know, 10 years ago as a conservative, you know, you'd be thrown out if you even a hint that you cheated on your wife.

00:42:57.000 And now that's fine because people were so sick of being talked down to that, you know, the flyover states and this and that, that he, he hit a nerve in people and everyone, you know, the people voted for him.

00:43:10.000 Remember him in the eighties, they weren't, you know, they remember Ivanka.

00:43:13.000 They remember that whole show of a mess that took place in his life.

00:43:17.000 They knew it wasn't going to be pretty.

00:43:18.000 But they wanted to blow that city up. And you know, it blew up the media, him, everyone around him,

00:43:24.000 and you know, it changed America forever. You mentioned some of the misdeeds in Trump's

00:43:29.000 personal life. The left spent years telling us that we shouldn't care how a person could

00:43:34.000 conducts themself in their private life, what we should care about are the policies they support,

00:43:39.000 as if a political leader is just a set of policies and not a person who has to make

00:43:43.000 moral decisions by the people that they're committed to.

00:43:46.000 And then Trump comes along, and he absolutely did not follow the rules that I, as a

00:43:53.000 Christian and many conservatives, would say that a political leader should, but he didn't

00:43:59.000 hate us. He didn't absolutely detest us, like virtually every other political leader of my lifetime

00:44:05.000 has.

00:44:06.000 And so conservatives said, you know what, we'll take this guy.

00:44:08.000 And the left went, but don't you care about his personal life? 0.99

00:44:12.000 Didn't he call Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig or something? 1.00

00:44:14.000 Yes, he called her a fat pig. 1.00

00:44:16.000 And everyone's laughing and screaming and cheering. 0.99

00:44:17.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, he said things that a lot of people thought.

00:44:24.000 You're right, he's a billionaire who should look down from his tower, but for whatever reason, if you talk to these people, especially people at some of these events with him, And it was like a god showed up, because it's a lot of people who spent a lot of years caring about the country and watching it tick away.

00:44:44.000 And somebody... Now, he was flawed and you can say what you want about him, but his heart was at least in the right place from their point of view.

00:44:52.000 And, you know... We need... Americans want to be involved in the political process, as they should be, and the presidents are representative.

00:44:59.000 So for a president to respond to you and allow themselves to be changed by your opinions, that's the point.

00:45:05.000 I think he embodied that.

00:45:06.000 That's why a lot of people really like Donald Trump.

00:45:09.000 I also want to mention this on the point of his personal life and his private life.

00:45:14.000 It's not as if we just had this abundance of very well-conducted moral people to choose from for President of the United States.

00:45:23.000 You didn't have the most moral person who had ever lived running next to Donald Trump.

00:45:27.000 Hillary Clinton.

00:45:28.000 Trump versus Hillary Clinton?

00:45:29.000 Yeah, seriously.

00:45:30.000 Then in the Republican primaries it was like Trump versus a bunch of swamp creatures?

00:45:33.000 Yeah, Jeb Bush.

00:45:35.000 For the most part, not all of them.

00:45:37.000 When I saw Hillary in 2016, I just laughed.

00:45:39.000 I was like, you think I'm going to vote for that? 1.00

00:45:40.000 You're insane. 0.99

00:45:41.000 That's so nice. 1.00

00:45:42.000 This lady was like warmonger of warmongers. 1.00

00:45:47.000 But the first female president, oh. 0.99

00:45:49.000 And you know what?

00:45:50.000 She doesn't believe all women.

00:45:52.000 Let me pull up this next story here so I've got some good news.

00:45:55.000 Let's talk about where we're heading.

00:45:57.000 CNN Plus to cease on Thursday, two days earlier than announced.

00:46:01.000 CNN Plus couldn't even fail on schedule.

00:46:05.000 Oh, that's brutal.

00:46:06.000 That is brutal.

00:46:08.000 Well, this is a big change.

00:46:09.000 I mean, CNN put $300 million, I believe, into it, right?

00:46:12.000 Yes.

00:46:13.000 $300 million!

00:46:15.000 And, you know, the story behind it is, you know, somebody I know at Discovery called it an ego project, basically, a Zucker ego project.

00:46:25.000 And it was tossed in By the guy who left there, kind of as a, we wanted this, we're gonna do it, you're stuck with it.

00:46:33.000 And I don't think anyone thought that they were just gonna shut it down.

00:46:36.000 Because, you know, that's a pretty big move to bring over Chris Wallace and so forth.

00:46:41.000 Now, I had reported that when Chris got over there, he was, you know, having people count, like, interns count how many times.

00:46:48.000 He was furious.

00:46:49.000 Because, you know, the staff was different.

00:46:51.000 It wasn't as big of an operation.

00:46:53.000 His ego.

00:46:54.000 One of the little secrets is most of these anchors hate each other.

00:46:58.000 There's very few people.

00:47:00.000 Don Lemon and Cuomo used to have these little chit-chats.

00:47:04.000 Boy, when Cuomo left, Lemon couldn't talk about him bad as fast as he could.

00:47:10.000 Famously, Wallace and Tapper hate each other.

00:47:14.000 The problem was when Zucker left, he left this giant vacuum of power because he was hands-on.

00:47:20.000 And, you know, the thought that, and my old boss, Dan Abrams, did a thing once right when this launched, was like, who thought this would be a good idea?

00:47:28.000 Like, who thought you wanted to watch?

00:47:29.000 And Tucker, like, somebody said to me, and I was kind of invested but not super, was like, you know that Tapper has a book show on this.

00:47:36.000 I'm like, a book show?

00:47:37.000 We're gonna listen to him talk about books on streaming?

00:47:41.000 And I remember thinking to myself, that can't be true.

00:47:44.000 And there it was.

00:47:46.000 And, you know, I've been in the media 15 years and not only is there a city bubble in New York and D.C.

00:47:52.000 there's also a media bubble within them that they think that they live in this moment and they live in these big important roles and if you try to question their judgment or disrupt their judgment on how things should work.

00:48:08.000 And you know, it's kind of like when Facebook years ago said pivot to video and all these companies spent millions of dollars spending on video equipment and then nothing happened because I guess millennials wanted 15 second videos, not 30 second videos.

00:48:22.000 But this was, you know, we need a streaming service because the kids are watching streaming.

00:48:26.000 And most people think to themselves, it had to be like a lot of focus groups and stuff.

00:48:30.000 Yeah, they paid money to be told that this would work.

00:48:33.000 When if you asked a person on the corner, would this, a homeless person, who had a bare, like had watched Cable in the last five years, would say God no.

00:48:43.000 He wouldn't, you know, but they- Did they not do- They did a study, and I can't remember whether it was KPMG, and I don't wanna, but it was one of the big ones that said, this will be X amount of X whatever.

00:48:56.000 Now, to be fair, when Zucker came on, when he took over, he introduced documentaries.

00:49:03.000 Now you look at CNN today and you think, wow, they have some pretty good documentaries.

00:49:08.000 And people made fun of him when he did that.

00:49:09.000 So he's had some good ideas.

00:49:11.000 Let's just say that if they had endless amounts of money and endless amounts of time, maybe once no one had cable anymore and this was the only way to watch CNN, it might have worked.

00:49:22.000 But when Discovery comes in and has, you know, X amount of billions of dollars in debt, and this thing is costing, and you know, Walz is making seven million.

00:49:31.000 I mean, that's what they're paying him.

00:49:33.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely had to be about worth every seven to $10 million because retirement.

00:49:38.000 That's about what Lemon and those people make. 0.99

00:49:40.000 Now, the odds are that Walsh is probably going to end up with Cuomo's old time slot at nine.

00:49:45.000 Because you got this guy, what are you going to do with him?

00:49:47.000 He's a good brand.

00:49:48.000 The problem with him, when I reported this, he has no beachhead.

00:49:53.000 Both sides hate him equally.

00:49:55.000 The left hate him because he was near Fox.

00:49:57.000 The Fox people hate him because he couldn't just be quiet and leave.

00:50:01.000 He had to poop on Tucker and the left, and they remember this.

00:50:07.000 And so he's kind of this island of people who... But I heard that the new leadership wants to purge CNN of the political stuff.

00:50:15.000 Yes.

00:50:16.000 So it's happening.

00:50:17.000 If you're a casual watcher and watch, say, Brian Stelter, who right now is kind of this thing to watch as far as the tempo there, he's the guy who used to, every Sunday, go after Fox or tweet at Fox or say this stuff about... He hasn't said anything about Fox.

00:50:34.000 Cause they kind of set the rules where this isn't about, this is a news organization.

00:50:38.000 This isn't about going after another news organization.

00:50:41.000 This is about, you know, and then the Ukraine, the Ukraine stuff happened.

00:50:45.000 Perfect timing for the people in Discovery who wanted to see CNN go back to news because they do an excellent job.

00:50:51.000 Kalissa Ward and all these people are bombs going off.

00:50:54.000 It reminds the only people who are watching cable, boomers, of you know Bernie in Iraq when you know we for the first time saw war happen live during shock and awe so it kind of reinforced that there is a business there now the problem with that is no one's watching cable news anymore and unless it's a crazy moment happening people aren't running to the TVs and god only know you guys in your 20s aren't sitting there watching cable on your if you even have a cable TV package

00:51:22.000 It used to be that when I heard, when I saw a tweet and it said, thing happened, I would turn on CNN.

00:51:29.000 I don't do that anymore.

00:51:30.000 I turn on Fox.

00:51:32.000 But also that whole breaking news thing used to be when there was breaking news, now Fox has it in every commercial, and it's kind of lost its luster where you used to hear that noise and something big was happening.

00:51:43.000 But this will be probably one of the largest media disasters, I hope, for hundreds of years from now.

00:51:50.000 I mean, it's the epic size of this.

00:51:52.000 You can't even begin to... There's part of me that would like to believe that the people at CNN putting the project together saw the market research that showed it wouldn't work.

00:52:01.000 They're like, hold on, let's just send it to Snopes first.

00:52:03.000 Let's see if they can debunk this research telling us it's not going to work.

00:52:07.000 Again, you can't imagine the egos at play.

00:52:11.000 And you, you know, they live in now Hudson Yards, this gigantic building on this island with looking down at people and they all talk to each other.

00:52:21.000 They all go to the same places.

00:52:23.000 They all, you know, are all above everyone else.

00:52:26.000 And, you know, the lack of failure and they just can't figure out why Fox works.

00:52:30.000 But this, CNN Plus is the perfect example of the information CNN presents itself.

00:52:35.000 Correct.

00:52:35.000 They live in a bubble where they're all farting and then rushing over to smell the person's fart and telling everybody it smells like cinnamon buns.

00:52:42.000 I call it navel gazing.

00:52:44.000 And it's if you go to these parties, you'll like, I'll tell you one thing, working at Mediaite, the best thing that ever happened was the CNN launch parties.

00:52:52.000 When they launched this thing, I don't know what the number is, but it was hundreds of thousands of dollars for the launch party of this.

00:52:59.000 No, it's just all of the media people come from all the different media places.

00:53:05.000 That's why, you know, Fox is the outlier, but you'll all see them with each other at different parties and it's all this little club they're in and they all know each other and they've all worked with each other.

00:53:16.000 That's why you see media reporters that, you know, will always, you know, kind of hedge what they're going to say because they're thinking, well, who knows what they're going to own someday and I might want to work for them.

00:53:25.000 Mm.

00:53:26.000 Wouldn't it be hysterical if you turn on CNN?

00:53:28.000 They're like, CNN Plus is doing great!

00:53:29.000 Yeah, no, it's awesome!

00:53:31.000 Best network ever!

00:53:31.000 Well, they did!

00:53:33.000 Are you kidding me?

00:53:35.000 Matt Dornick, the... Oh, the communication strategist.

00:53:35.000 Come on!

00:53:39.000 He is.

00:53:40.000 He's a conservative gay guy who was kind of invented for Trump because the CNN PR used to be the kindest, sweetest people.

00:53:49.000 Like, if they, working on the other end of it, when they didn't like something, it would be this nice email.

00:53:54.000 And they got Matt to just become this bulldog that was basically the Trump version of a PR person at CNN.

00:54:01.000 But anyway he famously said it was doing great and they were hoping it and then it went out of business like two days later.

00:54:07.000 Yeah so Matt Dornick this is a funny story here.

00:54:10.000 It was pointed out that Joe Biden is not a practicing Catholic because by definition he is and he doesn't give assent to Catholic teaching and so someone reached out to CNN Explaining this, CNN, you called Joe Biden a practicing Catholic.

00:54:23.000 He is not.

00:54:24.000 That is a factual error.

00:54:25.000 You should correct it.

00:54:26.000 Matt Dornick screenshots the email and tweets it out saying, this is really gross.

00:54:31.000 Which personally, personally speaking, I don't think it's a great communication strategy.

00:54:35.000 It's like screenshot someone's email and then post it calling it gross.

00:54:39.000 But also he dismissed a blatant, like clear cut fact. 1.00

00:54:43.000 He's kind of the representation of what happened to CNN in the Trump era, in that it was all—they felt the only way to respond to him has become—see, they viewed him as just this ignorant, loud buffoon, and what they ended up becoming was the ignorant, loud buffoon. 0.99

00:55:01.000 The Chris Wallace news makes me feel really good. 0.99

00:55:04.000 What's the word?

00:55:05.000 Schadenfreude.

00:55:08.000 He was fine until he left.

00:55:10.000 Like Megyn Kelly when she left.

00:55:12.000 She went to NBC.

00:55:13.000 Now, I love Megyn Kelly.

00:55:17.000 But everyone knew, you know, you are what Fox makes you.

00:55:22.000 Your audience isn't going to go to NBC in the morning.

00:55:24.000 That was weird.

00:55:25.000 But she ended up with 30 million extra bucks in the bank because she said something offensive about, again, she was Black Santa and then said something offensive. 1.00

00:55:34.000 It wasn't even offensive.

00:55:35.000 No, but to them.

00:55:36.000 Why is that offensive?

00:55:36.000 And they're like you don't know but they think they just wanted an excuse to go to contract. Everyone knows it was

00:55:41.000 everyone knew It was a pile on she knew it was a pile on that's why she 1.00

00:55:44.000 got paid and off she went and now she's Didn't they they initially did was it the first the morning

00:55:48.000 show with Megan? Yeah. Yeah. Well, she had the morning show said just like dancing

00:55:52.000 Yeah, then she said this thing. She asked why was blackface offensive? Why was blackface offensive? It's your new

00:55:59.000 Well, she should be in jail. 0.99

00:56:00.000 No, but you're a news person.

00:56:01.000 She belongs in prison. 1.00

00:56:02.000 And, you know, that's the point.

00:56:03.000 Like, what's the question you can't ask anymore is how the news is made.

00:56:08.000 Not what should, like, there's no more, like, Chris Wallace's father, Mike Wallace, you'd be scared out of your wits when he walked in the doors because there was nothing, there was, you know, no agenda with him.

00:56:19.000 Now, of course, they were all left-leaning, but still, you know, We are in a period where it's the words you're not allowed to say.

00:56:28.000 Why do gay people get a month? 1.00

00:56:32.000 If I'm a reporter and I went into the headquarters of Gay Incorporated.

00:56:37.000 Why didn't you get a month?

00:56:40.000 Why does everyone have to change their logos, except for in the Middle East?

00:56:40.000 What happened?

00:56:45.000 Are you okay with that?

00:56:49.000 And you can't show Dr. Strange's new movie in there because it's a gay character. 1.00

00:56:54.000 Does that bother you? 0.69

00:56:56.000 Nope.

00:56:57.000 It's like, where did LGBTQ+, A, Z, where did that come from? 1.00

00:57:01.000 You can't ask those questions.

00:57:03.000 Correct.

00:57:04.000 But I will say, I thought it was strange that they moved Megyn Kelly from, what was it, Fox News Prime Time to NBC Morning Show.

00:57:11.000 It's like a family, woman-oriented thing. 1.00

00:57:13.000 And it's what happens to media people.

00:57:16.000 I love her to death.

00:57:18.000 I love them all.

00:57:18.000 But you lose your mind.

00:57:20.000 You become so famous that you think it's all about that.

00:57:24.000 That's what CNN Plus is.

00:57:25.000 But let's talk about some other good news.

00:57:28.000 Some other good news here.

00:57:30.000 While you're pulling this up, can I just mention something to his earlier point?

00:57:32.000 So you said that CNN was kind of trying to do this tough guy thing and mimic Trump.

00:57:37.000 And I noticed a little bit of that.

00:57:39.000 And I think it's funny because A, they clearly misunderstood.

00:57:42.000 It's not just that people like that Trump was a tough guy.

00:57:44.000 They liked who he was going after.

00:57:45.000 But even in the example I brought up of Matt Dornick going, this is really gross.

00:57:49.000 That's not a tough guy thing to say.

00:57:51.000 Can you imagine Trump going, this is really gross, quite frankly?

00:57:55.000 No, he would actually go after the person.

00:57:57.000 They didn't know how to do it.

00:57:59.000 Well, let's pull up this next story because it's good news.

00:58:02.000 Actually, John, do you want to explain what's going on with this?

00:58:04.000 So, I reported this and, you know, the media people are all like, oh, she's going nowhere.

00:58:09.000 Joy Reid is out.

00:58:11.000 Well, not officially yet, but Comcast doesn't like her.

00:58:15.000 The people, Roberts and the people at the top don't like her.

00:58:19.000 And I got wind of something that was said that, you know, They're going to use, and I said this to somebody, that if you notice in the last few days you saw her ratings being leaked out as far as she's had the lowest ratings and whatever.

00:58:31.000 But she's just becoming offensive to everyone and it's becoming offensive to advertisers. 0.97

00:58:36.000 There's a lot of advertisers who are balking.

00:58:38.000 There's only so many times you can say that Elon Musk bought it because he wants apartheid back.

00:58:44.000 You can say that white people did X, Y, and Z. 0.61

00:58:46.000 But if you just start using it as an example for everything, you start to become offensive to mostly, even black people find her offensive.

00:58:56.000 Many of my black friends, many people I've talked to find her offensive.

00:59:01.000 She does comparable to Don Lemon, but that's not saying much.

00:59:04.000 Yeah, well, neither of those people are probably going to be around for the long term.

00:59:09.000 I mean, take a look at this.

00:59:10.000 This is Tuesday's ratings in the key demo.

00:59:14.000 This is fascinating.

00:59:17.000 Joy Reid with $130,000 against Burnett with $170,000.

00:59:18.000 Anderson Cooper with $170,000.

00:59:20.000 Don Lemon with $136,000 and then $116,000.

00:59:21.000 Jake Tapper with $140,000 and $159,000.

00:59:21.000 Blitzer $152,000.

00:59:22.000 That's remarkable because we do better than that.

00:59:23.000 AnonLemon with 136 and then 116, JakeTapper with 140 and 159, Blitzer 152.

00:59:29.000 That's remarkable because we do better than that in the key demo.

00:59:33.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:59:34.000 Now, you look at Waters, 368.

00:59:36.000 You look at Carlson, 591.

00:59:39.000 I've looked at these ratings for 15 years and nothing changes.

00:59:42.000 Fox stays where it is.

00:59:44.000 And, you know, for a long time, CNN wanted to be MSNBC because they were beating them.

00:59:49.000 And then they decided, no, that's too to the left.

00:59:52.000 And then Trump came along and you can't be what you're not.

00:59:54.000 Wasn't Tucker Carlson on MSNBC?

00:59:56.000 No, he was on CNN.

00:59:58.000 He used to be a CNN show.

00:59:59.000 Yeah, he was.

01:00:00.000 But he was on MSNBC as well.

01:00:01.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:00:01.000 Yes.

01:00:03.000 If you combine Anderson Cooper from CNN and Chris Hayes and MSNBC, you combine their ratings, it is still almost 300,000 viewers less than Tucker Carlson.

01:00:13.000 Fox sometimes triples them combined.

01:00:16.000 It's not even a contest.

01:00:18.000 You know, there is media reporters who keep asking, like at MSNBC, they're giving Rachel Maddow millions of dollars to do nothing. 0.99

01:00:26.000 She does one show a week now and now has special projects.

01:00:29.000 Good for her.

01:00:30.000 Yeah, because they don't know what to do with her.

01:00:32.000 What Happened With Joy reads a fun story in that it revolves a lot around what happened with George Floyd.

01:00:39.000 And it's a basic narrative, and that is there, you know, Al Sharpton's those types of people who have used race as a way to continue to make money.

01:00:50.000 And she used it as a way to keep her job because everyone at MSNBC is terrified of her. 1.00

01:00:58.000 And everyone at NBCUniversal is terrified of her.

01:01:01.000 On the other hand, people at Comcast, now, there's also other things coming.

01:01:06.000 And speaking of someone we've talked about earlier, there's lawsuits coming about things she has said about people and so forth.

01:01:12.000 And we saw what happened with the Covington kids as far as how that went for CNN and others.

01:01:19.000 And she has said some things equal about people that are coming down the pike. 0.86

01:01:23.000 All in all, she's just not a positive light for the network.

01:01:28.000 And that whole gay thing has come back to haunt her in ways that I don't think she's quite well aware of. 0.87

01:01:35.000 You can never survive on the left, man. 0.87

01:01:38.000 If you're on the left and you say something like that, you're like, oh, it was hacked.

01:01:42.000 If you're on the right, they would want to see the forensics of it before you'd get your show back.

01:01:42.000 Okay, move on.

01:01:47.000 And that's sort of part of my concern with what we were discussing earlier about Elon Musk potentially unveiling some sketchiness or potential fraud with Twitter's code is that I think it would end up being the same kind of stories we got with Hillary's emails.

01:02:00.000 Everyone would know that there was foul play and nothing would be done about it and it would just sort of be waved away.

01:02:04.000 I do also want to mention, however, that when we're looking at Wallace's numbers, Tapper's numbers, even Maddow's numbers, I'm honored to say that I once did a cartoon that was a parody of a news show and it was literally just people farting and it got more views.

01:02:19.000 This is important.

01:02:21.000 This is the key demo.

01:02:24.000 We're not winning against CNN when it comes to old people.

01:02:29.000 No.

01:02:30.000 So if you look, uh, this is, this is, uh, what do we got here?

01:02:33.000 25 to 54 for us, I believe around 80% of our viewers are 18 to 54.

01:02:40.000 Their average viewer is 68 or 69.

01:02:43.000 So you look at this.

01:02:44.000 CNN, when you do all viewers, they say 25 to 54.

01:02:48.000 Rest assured, CNN is not getting 500, 600,000 viewers from 18 to 24.

01:02:53.000 Right.

01:02:54.000 And there's no more airport video of them.

01:02:56.000 So these are people probably in institutions or places they can't change the channel because I don't know any 18 year olds watching CNN.

01:03:03.000 I want to see what their engagement is because they just have the TV show.

01:03:06.000 They have a TV on from 4 o'clock to 10 o'clock and they just let it run when they're in the other room.

01:03:10.000 How old is Rachel Maddow? 0.99

01:03:13.000 She's got to be in her late 40s or 50s by now. 0.85

01:03:16.000 It's it's it's a yeah.

01:03:18.000 And how old is Tucker?

01:03:21.000 Tucker's 50s something.

01:03:24.000 1973 so she's 47 40. It's really quite amazing It's a strange it's a strange thought for me the people who

01:03:24.000 Maddow was born in 1973.

01:03:24.000 So she's 47, 48.

01:03:33.000 typically are like yo, hey I know who you are your Tim pool when they greet me on the

01:03:37.000 street or whatever same it ages me. Oh, yes, you know an eels Often a lot of people who look like they're mid to late 20s

01:03:43.000 I couldn't imagine being someone like mad out and you go outside and young people don't know who you are

01:03:48.000 And then you see some old perfect I'm a Rachel Maddow, I'm a big fan!

01:03:52.000 So it's either like the super viewer... That's gonna be a cartoon.

01:03:55.000 I'm stealing that.

01:03:56.000 I bet it's the girl with the pink hair and the purple hair who come up to her or people who are invested in the script.

01:04:04.000 Even those far lefties though, even those progressive types who are just completely wrong about everything, even they don't like legacy media.

01:04:10.000 They'll watch Twitch streamers who have a left-wing perspective.

01:04:13.000 That's true.

01:04:14.000 Like, you know, Hasan.

01:04:15.000 Young people are going to know who he is.

01:04:17.000 I know who he is.

01:04:18.000 Tucker Carlson with nearly 600,000 in the key demo.

01:04:22.000 Yeah, he's going to go outside and young people are going to be like, Tucker!

01:04:25.000 They know who he is.

01:04:26.000 They know who he is because he speaks to people.

01:04:28.000 Like he speaks, you know, you guys have to take on the rest of this world.

01:04:32.000 And I think he speaks to people who care about what's happening in the country.

01:04:36.000 And I think, you know, Maddox, it's incredible.

01:04:39.000 She got, her ratings were Fox-esque.

01:04:43.000 During certain, like the whole, you know, Mueller report.

01:04:47.000 Those types of things where people, and that shows you where we are as a country, because they're watching as a sporting event.

01:04:54.000 They want their Team Trump to go down.

01:04:56.000 They want him, Mueller, to come up and say, I got him.

01:04:59.000 And that's all they're watching it for.

01:05:00.000 She almost cried when the Mueller report came out.

01:05:03.000 Well, famously, media, I'm not sure you can see it on the site anymore, but a famous ABC journalist cried the night that Trump got elected.

01:05:12.000 And and he called her out later In in one of the first times he met them. But yeah, there

01:05:19.000 was a lot of people invested I mean that night was surreal just of how many people were

01:05:24.000 sad something happened in like 2015 to 2016 You know in this period where people's brains just just

01:05:31.000 crack it Well, it was that moment.

01:05:34.000 It was like Ben, what's his name outside the Hillary event, Ben Rhodes, where he's just sitting there, that video of him just sitting there going, I don't know what happened.

01:05:43.000 It's a famous video right after she gives her concession speech.

01:05:47.000 And he's just like blindsided.

01:05:49.000 And it's famous because no one really knew what to say because one side of you were like, wow, I voted for him.

01:05:56.000 But do you think he's good and sane and the other side of you was like, yeah, you know, and I watched a lot of young people feel really happy about the future.

01:06:05.000 And, you know, plus I think the mood of the country was they were sick and tired of the establishment.

01:06:12.000 It's not just Joy Reid.

01:06:12.000 I want to mention this too.

01:06:13.000 James Corden is quitting the Late Late Show.

01:06:15.000 Yeah.

01:06:16.000 Yo, the machine is falling apart.

01:06:18.000 Well, also late night shows used to be funny and now they're just political hit jobs.

01:06:22.000 Well, yeah, it's Claptor.

01:06:23.000 And there's so many of them.

01:06:24.000 It's Colbert.

01:06:25.000 Colbert coming up on his show and saying, hey, hey, Republicans are bad.

01:06:28.000 Yeah.

01:06:30.000 It's like, that's not a joke, dude.

01:06:31.000 I'm not laughing.

01:06:32.000 Or him doing the vaccine dance thing. 0.98

01:06:33.000 These people have gone nuts.

01:06:35.000 I mean, look, late night is just by definition a really disadvantaged formula because a good stand-up comedian might come out with an hour every year. 0.84

01:06:44.000 And then these late night hosts come out there, what, every night with something like 45 minutes of material.

01:06:48.000 And so it's not going to be the best for the most part, even if you have talented writers, but they've stopped trying to be funny altogether.

01:06:55.000 And it literally is just clapter, like you mentioned.

01:06:58.000 They always used to be an escape.

01:07:00.000 You'd watch, showing my age, Johnny Carson and these other people.

01:07:03.000 And I remember you'd hear him joke about Nixon or something, but then he'd get on.

01:07:07.000 And people don't watch these shows to hear about how bad the Republicans are.

01:07:12.000 Or it's the sophistry.

01:07:14.000 is the the Jimmy Kimmel. Why is he having political debates with people like Marjorie Taylor Greene

01:07:20.000 on his show? Yo, can you hold on guys? Um, Moon Knight came out, right? It's a Marvel show.

01:07:27.000 Here's Tim Marvel memeing. No, no, but I mean, this is also, I mean, Disney's got new shows.

01:07:32.000 Why don't you come out and be like, you guys see that new show?

01:07:35.000 There's a new movie with Northmen!

01:07:36.000 And then everyone can clap and cheer for Alex Skarsgård and he can make a joke about it.

01:07:40.000 I would say that if you were a conspiracy theorist, you would say that there's a media apparatus that feeds off of itself.

01:07:46.000 If you ever listen to what Colbert says at night, he's kind of picking up on what the theme of the day was for them going after whoever on Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:07:56.000 So she's the piñata for the left for the day and he kind of finishes it off at the end of the day.

01:08:01.000 And they used to do that in a funny way, him and, Jon Stewart's a perfect example.

01:08:06.000 He's been in the news lately where he went completely crazy left the other day

01:08:10.000 where he used to be, I mean, he'd be, if you look at some of his oldest shows,

01:08:14.000 he's gonna be a conservative considered today. 1.00

01:08:17.000 He used to be moderate in the middle, and he would grab everyone, and you'd joke about some idiot saying something. 0.99

01:08:22.000 Even the Republicans would be funny. 0.95

01:08:25.000 And now you feel as though he knows that he has to do these things to survive, or he will be, you know, canceled.

01:08:32.000 Just like Nancy Pelosi is afraid AOC is going to cancel her. 0.94

01:08:35.000 But these people are, uh, sad.

01:08:37.000 No, they are.

01:08:38.000 They're sad.

01:08:39.000 They are.

01:08:39.000 Because, you know what young people want?

01:08:42.000 Authenticity.

01:08:43.000 Correct.

01:08:44.000 Old people, I guess, find John. 0.99

01:08:46.000 You know, you looked at some market research and they said, John, I'm telling you, you gotta go woke and be as racist as you can against white people. 0.95

01:08:52.000 Right.

01:08:52.000 And then John's like, I'm gonna do it!

01:08:55.000 And then the rest of us are just like, what happened to that guy?

01:08:58.000 Right.

01:08:58.000 He lost his audience.

01:08:59.000 That Elon Musk meme.

01:09:01.000 Let me pull that meme back up.

01:09:03.000 Look at this.

01:09:04.000 This image right here, this me in the middle, that's Jon Stewart's fan base.

01:09:08.000 Right.

01:09:09.000 Straight up.

01:09:10.000 Jon Stewart praised Project Veritas.

01:09:12.000 He mocked him a little bit in funny ways, like making fun of James' clothing, but said, journalists, where are you?

01:09:18.000 Look who's scooping you.

01:09:19.000 How did these guys pull it off?

01:09:20.000 And then he used the reporting legitimately, not ironically.

01:09:24.000 The Acorn investigation.

01:09:25.000 Correct.

01:09:26.000 I like that.

01:09:27.000 I remember when he came out in his pimp outfit for the first time when he did his first show on Fox News.

01:09:33.000 I remember it to this day.

01:09:35.000 And we did this whole write-up about him.

01:09:37.000 And you've watched as he, you know, and you're listening to a Google employee or whoever he happens to be getting, a CNN employee producer saying, yeah, we lean left.

01:09:45.000 And the next day, somehow, that isn't what you just saw.

01:09:48.000 And that's what's happening.

01:09:50.000 I think people that are young know this is all BS.

01:09:55.000 You know what it is?

01:09:57.000 It's that people like Jon Stewart bring in an audience who doesn't pay attention to the news, and then he says things, and the applause sign lights up, and everyone's like, And they used to be interview shows up until 2006.

01:10:08.000 The only way you're going to see an actor talk about their experience was on The Tonight Show or Letterman or something like that.

01:10:13.000 Now they have their own YouTube channels. 0.99

01:10:14.000 You don't need that crap junk. 1.00

01:10:16.000 And now they're just trying to fill the void with political trash. 1.00

01:10:19.000 And they have to say something. 1.00

01:10:22.000 Crap on Trump. 1.00

01:10:24.000 It's just like the ward shows. 1.00

01:10:26.000 I mean, you used to go to those for escapism and now you know whatever is happening in the media as far as politics on the right. 0.97

01:10:35.000 And then there was the gay, gay, gay thing this time where there was this gay bill and everyone had to say gay, gay, gay. 0.90

01:10:41.000 And you see the ratings. 0.97

01:10:45.000 Do you not see what you're doing?

01:10:46.000 No one's watching you anymore because they're I'm tired.

01:10:49.000 It's exhausting.

01:10:50.000 But it's not true.

01:10:53.000 That's the issue.

01:10:53.000 It's like when they're going out and screaming gay, everyone's like, why are you doing that?

01:10:56.000 Right.

01:10:57.000 Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks, he tweets out, conservatives claim to be pro-free speech, but they literally celebrate a bill called Don't Say Gay.

01:11:06.000 And I'm like, bro, the bill's not called that.

01:11:08.000 And he's like, yeah, well, you don't speak out against DeSantis for his anti-BDS legislation.

01:11:13.000 I was like, we mentioned it almost every time we talk about DeSantis.

01:11:15.000 We say it was bad.

01:11:17.000 Moving on.

01:11:17.000 I tweeted and I said, I think the Don't Say Gay Bill might be the largest, fastest fake news in history.

01:11:26.000 Because if you were to look at it that day, every single headline started with Don't Say Gay Bill.

01:11:32.000 And no one, I had this famous fight with Mark Hamill, I said, did you read the bill?

01:11:36.000 I had thousands of people like coming at me, you know, because no one read the bill.

01:11:40.000 You don't think Mark Hamill read six pages of this bill that just says you can't?

01:11:44.000 And then you're like, if you're going to pick a topic, and as a gay person, trust me, that came out in 88, we have a lot of things that we had to overcome.

01:11:52.000 If you're going to pick arguing over whether K-3 grades can talk about sex, you're going to... I've said this and Sully, what's his name, said it too.

01:12:06.000 You're going to set the whole cause back 25 years.

01:12:08.000 Because I've seen a lot of homophobic stuff flow out since then.

01:12:12.000 Now everyone's this or that or pedophile or that.

01:12:15.000 Let's make this easy for people who aren't familiar.

01:12:17.000 I have no problem with critical race theory books in schools.

01:12:21.000 I mean that physically.

01:12:21.000 I have a problem with critical race praxis in schools.

01:12:25.000 That is, in curriculum, when teachers put critical race theory in practice in their lessons.

01:12:32.000 Now, if a school said, hey kids, here we have the Bible, and here we have Kimberly Crenshaw's critical race theory.

01:12:40.000 We're going to analyze and discuss these ideas.

01:12:42.000 I'd be like, that's cool.

01:12:43.000 When they come out, they don't do that, though.

01:12:45.000 What they actually do now is they say, the Bible can't be in the school at all, but don't worry, there's no critical race theory here.

01:12:50.000 We just put those lessons in the curriculum.

01:12:53.000 Now imagine this.

01:12:54.000 Imagine if your kid went to school one day, and he came back with homework, and the homework said, Jesus had 12 apostles.

01:13:02.000 One apostle betrayed him.

01:13:04.000 How many apostles did not betray him?

01:13:05.000 You'd be like, well, hold on.

01:13:07.000 But it's like the math problem.

01:13:11.000 It's a math question.

01:13:12.000 What is it?

01:13:13.000 On the third day, Jesus rose.

01:13:15.000 24 hours are in one day.

01:13:17.000 How many hours did it take?

01:13:18.000 That would be Praxis.

01:13:21.000 Taking the teachings of religion, but putting it in math lessons.

01:13:24.000 Now, religious schools actually do this, and that's fine if you go to a religious school.

01:13:28.000 In a public school, I don't think you should have critical praxis or religious praxis, but if the teachers want to discuss any ideology, I'm fine with it.

01:13:35.000 I think the one good thing that came out of the pandemic is that parents figured out what their kids were learning in school.

01:13:41.000 Like, you were just off the kid goes, and I mean, these days, hoping he didn't get shot,

01:13:46.000 but you just, off they went, and then now you get to look over their shoulder while

01:13:50.000 they're teaching these things, and I think it was a good, and you saw it in Virginia.

01:13:54.000 You saw- That was the meltdown.

01:13:56.000 Yeah, you saw that parents, you don't screw with the kids, and I'll tell you, you know,

01:13:59.000 there was a lot of Democrats who voted for him because Democrats love telling you how

01:14:03.000 to run your life until they have to, you know, do it to their kids.

01:14:08.000 And, uh, we got to see the, what happens when you do that, because, you know, you can't make everyone out to be Trump.

01:14:16.000 I want to mention on the, uh, parental rights and education chat or, uh, Bill, I saw something in the chicken city chat a couple of days ago, and I wish I could remember the username to attribute it to them, but they said it's not, don't say gay it's wait till they're eight, which is, So much more of an accurate way of describing the bill and also helps you understand that it doesn't even go far enough.

01:14:33.000 Right.

01:14:34.000 Well, so this is, um, you don't want to give the guy too much attention, but to respond to Cenk Uygur, because he tweeted back at me saying, you guys love to claim the name is this that or otherwise, but it perfectly describes the bill.

01:14:45.000 I'm like, the bill bans discussions of traditional marriage.

01:14:47.000 It's just insane.

01:14:48.000 That they conflated a bill that was trying to prevent teachers from telling kids not to talk to their parents about conversations with homosexuality is egregious.

01:14:58.000 Like, it does a disservice to the homosexual community. 0.65

01:15:01.000 Yeah, and now we have the fact that you're learning that teachers are hiding transgender stuff.

01:15:07.000 Listen, that's the parent's kid.

01:15:10.000 24 hours, 7 days a week.

01:15:12.000 It doesn't become your kid.

01:15:13.000 Teach them how to write and read and send them home.

01:15:16.000 And if the parents want them to read about sex at whatever age, hopefully by the time they're 13 or 14 maybe, But, you know, there's nothing... I've read the bill.

01:15:27.000 It's just... It's logical.

01:15:29.000 Now, you know, you could say the same thing about why can't they talk about my marriage with a man and a woman and... But, you know, I've said this before.

01:15:39.000 There's an over-representation of gay people in the media.

01:15:42.000 There's a lot of gay people who work in the media.

01:15:45.000 Tons of them. 0.96

01:15:46.000 And those people amplify... They make up 6% of the population.

01:15:50.000 That's the whole alphabet character. 6%.

01:15:53.000 And that's, you know, they amplify these causes to a point where, you know, years ago that didn't happen.

01:16:01.000 And nowadays it happens because they're afraid to be called homophobic for not doing it.

01:16:06.000 What we need is for all of these religious teachers to just have discussions with five-year-olds about the Bible and then to tell those kids, Don't let your parents know.

01:16:17.000 Can you imagine?

01:16:18.000 Converting their religion against their parents. 0.70

01:16:21.000 This is also very important.

01:16:23.000 As a Catholic, you would absolutely never be advised to baptize someone else's child without their permission.

01:16:28.000 As a matter of justice, even though we have the full truth, You don't own someone else's kid.

01:16:38.000 But this is the point.

01:16:42.000 They are such fervent fanatics.

01:16:45.000 They own your child in their mind.

01:16:47.000 So when you have this case in Florida where the female student was getting therapies and treatments without the parents knowing.

01:16:56.000 Some of these are permanent.

01:16:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:16:57.000 Imagine if a teacher baptized your kid without you knowing and that's not that that's technically permanent But it's not like altering their body.

01:17:05.000 You know what I mean?

01:17:06.000 It's just you know, the fact that kids are lonely and want to fit into a group I remember going into the first gay club and I think the issue was it was that first moment I ever felt normal because there were people like me around and And that was 1988.

01:17:21.000 And I can't even imagine today what it feels like for them that now you have to be part of this group.

01:17:29.000 And that if you're not that, you know, you're shunned or whatever.

01:17:32.000 But, you know, I see a point of it, but it's also a very, very slippery slope that you're making decisions young.

01:17:40.000 I mean, I came out in the AIDS right dead center of it and got out of it without a problem because, you know, I save sex and That was it. 0.83

01:17:50.000 But if you're young these days, the pressures on you to be something maybe you're not is permanent nowadays.

01:17:58.000 Because, you know, once those surgeries and all that stuff happen, and then, you know, there's a growing evidence of people who are now saying, I wish I hadn't done this.

01:18:06.000 Blair White's interviewed more than one person.

01:18:08.000 That they're saying that this was a mistake.

01:18:08.000 Yeah.

01:18:10.000 I did it when I was young.

01:18:11.000 I shouldn't have done it.

01:18:12.000 I was confused.

01:18:13.000 Well, the issue is actually the algorithmic and media manipulation.

01:18:17.000 Right.

01:18:17.000 So this ties back to all the stuff happening with Elon Musk.

01:18:20.000 When you have no people to explain a negative circumstance, you only hear a positive circumstance.

01:18:27.000 And so what was happening was there was a subreddit that was about detransitioning, and it was people telling their story saying, you know, I didn't have a good time.

01:18:34.000 Got banned.

01:18:35.000 There was a website.

01:18:36.000 Got pulled.

01:18:38.000 Any instance in which someone said, let me tell you, this wasn't that great, would get removed for hate speech.

01:18:43.000 Because these kids would then only see a positive message.

01:18:48.000 Right.

01:18:49.000 Because it became, I don't know when it happened, because being gay, you don't think about it, but I guess it was probably like 10 years ago where You know, the pride and all this stuff that comes out that you have to celebrate this.

01:19:02.000 You know, that being gay requires an extra level of celebration.

01:19:07.000 And it has to, you have to accept it.

01:19:10.000 And especially as a parent, you have to accept that I want to be a man now.

01:19:14.000 We went from tolerate to have to.

01:19:16.000 Yeah.

01:19:17.000 And there's no middle ground anymore.

01:19:18.000 And, you know, I've said this a thousand times, you know, whoever owns the language owns everything and if you can say that this is hate speech because you have said that these people don't didn't agree or had a really bad time transitioning and here's 500 of them and that somehow offends the other side that you're not allowed to talk about it then you're going to create a big and but that's happening in our society with everything this goes back to uh... the twitter conversation again in which

01:19:49.000 Twitter's view of everything was that it was all filtered through a leftist lens.

01:19:55.000 And they kept saying they weren't biased, and I'm trying to explain this to these guys.

01:19:55.000 Correct.

01:19:59.000 I'm like, you're so biased you don't know you are.

01:20:03.000 You are surrounded by nothing but people on the left, no one but leftists.

01:20:06.000 You've never talked to a conservative, so you assume when you hear an opinion from a conservative, it's a fringe opinion that no one cares about.

01:20:14.000 Yes, I get it.

01:20:15.000 Your brother, sister, and your friends agree with all of your opinions.

01:20:19.000 You are not the world.

01:20:20.000 Right.

01:20:20.000 I find that the left tends to be... It's no surprise that they tend to be atheist, secular, or outright condemn or reject religion because they typically view themselves as the universal center.

01:20:32.000 And they're supposedly the most tolerant, which I was hysterical, but the least tolerant people you've ever met in your life.

01:20:38.000 And it's kind of crazy.

01:20:40.000 But I think as they lose religion, whatever religion that is, as they lose a sense... Their religion becomes their identity, their sexual identity.

01:20:50.000 People who, if you believe there's something greater than you, in any sense, be it spirituality, be it the universe, magnetic fields, you tend to treat other people more equally because you're like, I'm a person and you're a person, and I must do unto others as I would have them do unto me.

01:21:06.000 But if you think there's nothing there, Well, then you're going to be more ego-driven.

01:21:10.000 You're going to be the one standing on the podium saying, I deserve this.

01:21:10.000 Right.

01:21:13.000 Right.

01:21:13.000 No one else.

01:21:14.000 Correct.

01:21:15.000 That's what we see a lot of.

01:21:16.000 They want everyone else banned.

01:21:17.000 Don't you say naughty words about me.

01:21:18.000 You shouldn't be allowed to.

01:21:19.000 I should.

01:21:20.000 Well, I think we're in a zero tolerance for hurting people's feelings.

01:21:23.000 Well, and this happened before, when I spoke out on the show a few weeks ago and just mentioned that I don't believe in gay marriage, Media Matters did a write-up on the show, and they also made it seem as if everyone on the panel agreed with me.

01:21:36.000 Right, and it was actually just you!

01:21:38.000 It was literally just me.

01:21:41.000 And it was, who was it, Alex Brusewitz?

01:21:44.000 It was the three of us, and we both were in agreement with gay marriage, and you weren't, and they made it seem like the whole show was, and then Media Matters is like, watch out for these grifters who will change their opinions. 0.97

01:21:54.000 And it's like, not a person here changed their opinion.

01:21:57.000 They just make it up.

01:21:59.000 You were saying people don't tolerate, what was it exactly, hurting other people's feelings?

01:21:59.000 Fake news.

01:22:03.000 Well, I think that we're in a society where hurting someone's feelings is violence now.

01:22:10.000 I have low tolerance for malicious behavior.

01:22:12.000 If someone's trying to hurt someone maliciously, then I'm going to step in.

01:22:16.000 But if someone says something that someone interprets and gets upset about, usually the person that's feeling the upset, it's in their mind.

01:22:22.000 There's something that they're going through.

01:22:24.000 It's like being at a party with all of us and he goes, I don't really, just really not.

01:22:28.000 My religion doesn't conform to gay marriage.

01:22:32.000 Fine.

01:22:33.000 I don't believe in it either.

01:22:34.000 Like, like, I, you know, I'm a traditionalist in a lot of senses that don't conform to what might be good for me just because I, you know, everyone's like, you have to be pro-gay. 0.98

01:22:45.000 Well, no, I, I think this institution kind of worked and I'm not sure that, you know, but hey, society decided in their own legal ways that that was the way it was going to be and so be it.

01:22:56.000 But that doesn't mean that those other people vanish the day, you know, that those court cases came down.

01:23:01.000 Those people are still there and they should be able to.

01:23:04.000 So what you're saying for X amount of hundreds of years of not having gay marriage is the minute you have gay marriage, none of those people's opinions can exist anymore in the same space.

01:23:14.000 And that is the problem I have. 0.98

01:23:16.000 And that is, you can still be in the same room with someone who doesn't agree, or that just being gay is horrible, or I'm going to hell. 0.98

01:23:24.000 I mean, who knows, you know?

01:23:26.000 So, the point I'm trying to make is that those opinions should be able to exist in the same space.

01:23:32.000 One doesn't get rid of the other one.

01:23:35.000 I just want to point out, going back to this meme from Elon, I think it's funny because if you look at 2008, the far left person is actually right wing in 2021.

01:23:45.000 So going back to what Seamus was saying about Barack Obama.

01:23:48.000 So we focused on the guy in the center, the me, and how the center becomes, you know, changes and now he's right wing.

01:23:54.000 But if my fellow liberals stayed in this spot on the left and moved down, he would be center right in 2021.

01:24:00.000 Barack Obama, Running on universal health care in 2007, in 2008, and now they're calling him a Republican.

01:24:10.000 And the drone king.

01:24:13.000 Killing Americans with drones. 1.00

01:24:15.000 Extrajudicial assassinations. 0.98

01:24:18.000 Even Clinton today would be, you know, some of their views.

01:24:22.000 And I lived through that.

01:24:23.000 We were talking on the way here was like, what were the 90s like?

01:24:26.000 And I just remember like, This just seemed less... But see, everyone didn't have a voice, and that was a good thing.

01:24:31.000 There was no social media.

01:24:32.000 The person who was crazy screamed at the end of the road, and now they have a Twitter account.

01:24:37.000 I think it is time that we start ignoring those who drove off the cliff. 0.97

01:24:44.000 And I'll just say, you, I am a staunch leftist here who believes in universal basic health care, and you crazy conservatives, ooh, I shake my fist at you. 0.97

01:24:54.000 Those other crazy guys, they had nothing to do with this conversation anymore. 0.97

01:24:57.000 There's a new center now. 0.94

01:25:00.000 Let's pull the center back, reassert what left and right are, and the crazy people who drove off the cliff, they drove off the cliff.

01:25:06.000 They're not part of this conversation.

01:25:07.000 I think the economics for that are there.

01:25:09.000 Meaning I think you're seeing it with CNN.

01:25:11.000 I think you're seeing it with cable news.

01:25:13.000 The one that keeps Trugging down the road is Fox and the right media seems to be going quite well.

01:25:20.000 And it's the left that seems to be kind of going off the cliff.

01:25:23.000 Because I think that graphic says a lot about a lot of people in the United States that consider themselves Democrats or left and now look and go, what am I?

01:25:33.000 What I can't I say today?

01:25:35.000 When I was on the Daily Wire's backstage live, I pointed out the difference between us.

01:25:39.000 Here I am, I'm wearing jeans and an unbuttoned shirt, and they're all dressed very, very nice.

01:25:44.000 And we're having a conversation where we mostly agree on a lot of issues, like voting for DeSantis versus Trump.

01:25:51.000 I just think it's funny that the issues that would really divide us, traditional liberal versus traditional conservative, don't even come up because they're on the back burner compared to the greater problems we're facing.

01:26:03.000 And we've faced worse, and that's the sad part.

01:26:05.000 Like, this country's gone through, even in my lifetime, my God, I got out of high school and the economy was through the ground and Reagan and, you know, there was a lot of, we have the Cold War, we're gonna die every day from, like, Red Dawn and come for Red October.

01:26:18.000 Like, that was our lives, you know, and there's this giant war going on and at some point, Russia's just gonna be like, who are we fighting considering all the, and people are just like, eh, I'm just, I don't know.

01:26:29.000 And the crazy thing is a lot of Millennials don't realize they were born during the Cold War.

01:26:32.000 Yeah.

01:26:33.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:26:33.000 And their parents were crazy, probably drinking and smoking. 0.99

01:26:36.000 And that gave us the Millennials, because there's got to be an excuse for how this ended up the way it did.

01:26:41.000 But what I was saying is, I think social media and stuff about what has changed in this, like when I grew up, there wasn't school shootings.

01:26:47.000 And because kids got home decompressed, they got away from the bullies.

01:26:53.000 They were able to spend time with that geeky friends, go back, maybe get bullied that day.

01:26:58.000 Now you have kids that can't ever get away from this, that they're connected to this bullying and bad and good and bad.

01:27:05.000 And I think also on the other end of the spectrum, I think in most societies, there's a lot of people who just don't need to contribute what they need.

01:27:13.000 Just go scream in the corner, say it to your parents and stuff, but there's some people that just don't need to tell the world.

01:27:22.000 I've seen people, I've seen companies stop advertising, and I think it was Harry's was somebody

01:27:28.000 from a Twitter account that said that this company was, it might be the Daily, that they were anti-trans,

01:27:34.000 and the Twitter follower had like 38 followers.

01:27:37.000 Yeah, that was Harry's Razors. 0.75

01:27:39.000 And they had, so there's a disproportionate amount of power that a lot of these people have.

01:27:44.000 I think you make a good point about evidence of why public school is failing as well,

01:27:47.000 because it's creating an environment where kids are getting bullied on the regular,

01:27:51.000 whereas this consistent bullying, they can't escape it.

01:27:55.000 So it's another reason not to put young people in that environment.

01:27:58.000 I'm sorry.

01:28:00.000 I'm just fascinated that from where I grew up, you know, just going back to what I was mentioning before about Backstage Live, is like even having this conversation with Seamus, most of the political conversations we have are on things we completely agree on, and we only ever so often touch on the things we don't agree on, even though you and I disagree on some stuff to a great degree.

01:28:18.000 But the cultural battles we're fighting, Free speech, individual liberties, personal responsibility, all of these things that used to be just an American value.

01:28:28.000 Given.

01:28:28.000 It was a given.

01:28:29.000 Yeah, now it's like, okay, those other things are here, like we'll discuss them, but man, those people are crazy.

01:28:34.000 Well, what we've gone to now is some people can, some people have different abilities to say what they can and some people can't.

01:28:41.000 You know, a Catholic can't say to me that I don't have a value and I'm not all, like, Well, we wouldn't say you don't have value as a person.

01:28:50.000 No, I know.

01:28:50.000 Yeah, we would say they believe homosexual activity is sinful.

01:28:54.000 And, you know, we live in a Jesse Smollett world where, you know, he represented everything I saw coming down the track.

01:29:01.000 Like, you're going to commit this giant crime to become a victim.

01:29:07.000 I remember when What's-Her-Name said she was black. 1.00

01:29:13.000 Or the first time I heard Safe Space and thought, that's never going to take place.

01:29:17.000 And people are like, these kids are getting out of school and they're going to bully them because they know how to use social media.

01:29:21.000 But social media had gotten to a point, and you're right, and I see it in the media where a lot of these older editors are scared to death of like Taylor Lorenz.

01:29:31.000 You know what it is?

01:29:32.000 There's some 40 or 50 year old dude who works at a company and the millennial, you know, comes out and says, I'm getting a job here.

01:29:38.000 Then they go, I demand a safe room.

01:29:40.000 And they go, what are you talking about?

01:29:41.000 So then they go on Twitter.

01:29:43.000 Next thing you know, this 50-year-old guy gets 30 tweets, and it's like, you're an evil man, you're evil, and they're like, what's happening?

01:29:51.000 Everyone is tweeting at me!

01:29:53.000 I've seen it happen.

01:29:53.000 I've seen that happen.

01:29:55.000 I've seen it happen.

01:29:56.000 It's not just a question of what you're allowed to say.

01:29:58.000 It's a question of what the people you have associated with are allowed to say, or rather, who you're allowed to associate with based on what they've said.

01:30:05.000 So, I don't like to pay too much attention to celebrities, but before the show we were discussing the fact that Chris Pratt Is being cancelled.

01:30:12.000 They're trying to recast him.

01:30:13.000 Because, according to some Twitter mob, his church is anti-LGBTQ.

01:30:18.000 And we cannot have an actor in a film who goes to a church that we believe is anti-LGBTQ.

01:30:24.000 I just want to remind everyone.

01:30:25.000 I just want to remind everyone. 0.98

01:30:27.000 That the former president of the United States, Barack Obama, went to a church with Reverend Wright as the preacher who said, in a sermon that was leaked, that the United States government invented HIV to kill black people.

01:30:42.000 Barack Obama attended that church for years.

01:30:45.000 And when this footage leaked, the media said, no, that's mean to talk about.

01:30:49.000 And every conservative in media went, okay, fine, we won't talk about that, even though it's literally true.

01:30:53.000 But the Chris Pratt thing was that story goes back, I think, several years to this actor individual saying he goes to this church.

01:31:03.000 It's an old story.

01:31:04.000 And the new story is because I think James Gunn responded to a Twitter account that had three followers.

01:31:09.000 So, you know, Chris Pratt's not going anywhere.

01:31:12.000 Yeah, but it's just interesting that people would actually see that as something that was worthy of getting a person cancelled, and could effectively get them cancelled, because we've seen people get in trouble for that kind of thing in the past.

01:31:21.000 But hold on, the tweet was... Someone tweeted, hey Marvel, you know, recast him.

01:31:28.000 They didn't say why.

01:31:29.000 James Gunn invented the reason why saying why, because he believes things you don't.

01:31:33.000 He's not going anywhere, and I'm like, wait, hold on.

01:31:35.000 What does he believe?

01:31:35.000 And then the people Google this Twitter account this right this Twitter account with three followers didn't say

01:31:40.000 anything about religion or politics It just said hey cast this guy the person that said I

01:31:44.000 Posted that because I saw the actor and thought they looked alike right that was it James Gunn

01:31:50.000 Injected cancel culture into the narrative. It was like a weird inverse cancel culture

01:31:55.000 I think, to be fair, there were so many articles flooding the internet over Chris Pratt's church that I think it makes sense that he would read that into the tweet.

01:32:04.000 I think I'll end this with... No, no, that story was years ago, bro.

01:32:08.000 No, I know, but if people are going to try to cancel somebody, it's probably going to be the thing they were trying to cancel over a few years ago.

01:32:14.000 The issue is, as you say, this is what I think about gay, and this is what I think is going to happen, and I listen to you. 1.00

01:32:20.000 Great!

01:32:21.000 That's your views.

01:32:23.000 The problem today is what I would do is find out what it is about you that I have to destroy to stop you.

01:32:31.000 Instead of just engaging with you and said, you know, I think you're absolutely right because those are your beliefs.

01:32:37.000 This is my beliefs because that's how it happened.

01:32:39.000 This is what I believe God did whatever and so what and so on.

01:32:43.000 Now this person being me would have to find the deepest, darkest, bad thing you've ever done.

01:32:49.000 Say it on Twitter to then nullify that you had an opinion that I didn't agree with.

01:32:53.000 And that's where we are.

01:32:54.000 And that's the problem is that no one can just disagree.

01:32:58.000 And then Media Matters is out there saying, you know, because this is not how this this is not how civil society should work.

01:33:07.000 We should just be able to say, like, yeah, you know, I have plenty.

01:33:10.000 I have family members who didn't think it was great, you know, but I agree that they that's their opinion and they love each other and we love each other.

01:33:18.000 And that's the end of it.

01:33:19.000 Well yeah, I mean the modern ethos is no one can disagree with me without being a horrifically corrupt person and also if someone does disagree with me we have to ensure that they're never allowed to speak to me.

01:33:29.000 But it's also, it's imbalanced.

01:33:32.000 The LGBT side of it says you have to love me and embrace my lifestyle and you have to put a flag and do all these other things and change your logos. 0.90

01:33:42.000 That's not how I view life because Let's go to Super Chats!

01:33:46.000 amount a month we have to put religious symbols up. Be based. Right. But no, well and also this

01:33:52.000 idea of love, this idea that loving someone means you have to agree with everything they're doing.

01:33:57.000 And that's what we've lost. Yeah. Let's go to Super Chats. 0.85

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01:34:20.000 As you all know, we got a billboard in Times Square calling out Taylor Lorenz, The Washington Post.

01:34:25.000 I'm very proud of that.

01:34:26.000 Thank you all for your support in making that possible.

01:34:29.000 Let's read what you guys have to say.

01:34:31.000 Adara the Wholesome says, Tim, you're wrong.

01:34:34.000 The only name for a free Damastan coffee shop is Covfefe.

01:34:37.000 There is no exception.

01:34:38.000 Anything else is an Ian level natural one semantic argument.

01:34:41.000 No BS, just Covfefe.

01:34:43.000 Too political.

01:34:46.000 Keep your politics out of my mouth.

01:34:48.000 I have that printed on the coffee cup.

01:34:50.000 That tweet.

01:34:51.000 Richard Winter says the battle of Helm's Deep has turned.

01:34:53.000 It's time to charge and finish this battle.

01:34:56.000 I just watched that recently.

01:34:57.000 I love that scene.

01:34:58.000 Ride out with me one last time.

01:35:00.000 And then they storm through and they knock all the orcs out of the way and then Gandalf is there and they're like, ahh.

01:35:04.000 It's a great scene.

01:35:05.000 Yeah.

01:35:06.000 That's what happened.

01:35:07.000 It was Elon Musk though.

01:35:08.000 Legendary.

01:35:08.000 And then he blinds the orcs as they stampede.

01:35:12.000 Rising Underdog says, still want Tim to have Adam Carolla on as a guest to discuss his book, In 50 Years We'll All Be Chicks and the Pussification of America.

01:35:23.000 I would be honored to have Adam Carolla on the show.

01:35:26.000 That'd be great.

01:35:27.000 Remember Loveline back in the day?

01:35:28.000 Yeah, I was just thinking about that.

01:35:29.000 Yeah, him and Dr. Drew.

01:35:30.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:35:31.000 It's kind of bizarre that they were together because Dr. Drew is such a kind of mainstream milquetoast figure, whereas Adam Kroll is probably really politically incorrect.

01:35:40.000 No, I know, but it's to our point.

01:35:42.000 It used to air on Q101 in Chicago.

01:35:45.000 And they had a girl with them too, didn't they?

01:35:48.000 Did they?

01:35:49.000 Dr. Judy.

01:35:50.000 No, I think she had her own show. 1.00

01:35:51.000 I love this.

01:35:52.000 Justin Bowman says, Elon said, quote, look to my coming at the first light on the fifth day at dawn.

01:35:57.000 Look east.

01:35:58.000 That's right.

01:35:58.000 He did.

01:35:58.000 That's what he said.

01:36:00.000 Can someone just make that meme?

01:36:01.000 That'd be good.

01:36:01.000 Yeah.

01:36:02.000 Just put his face on it.

01:36:04.000 And then all of the people, the Rohirrim, are all the people who are banned, all rushing back in with him. 1.00

01:36:11.000 The orcs.

01:36:13.000 I thought that wasn't me.

01:36:14.000 Is that real?

01:36:15.000 Did it actually post that?

01:36:16.000 I saw a screenshot.

01:36:17.000 I wasn't sure.

01:36:19.000 And it just started working.

01:36:20.000 When I first did it, you'd upload your picture, but it didn't show up.

01:36:23.000 I wasn't sure. The problem with true social is it's only on the iPhone.

01:36:25.000 And so I and it just started working when I first did it.

01:36:29.000 It didn't have you couldn't put you'd upload your picture, but it didn't show up.

01:36:33.000 Well, they got their own rumbles.

01:36:35.000 New crowd service. OK.

01:36:38.000 All right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:36:39.000 says, Tim, they are scared of free speech in the town square for they fear that

01:36:44.000 they themselves and their views will disappear into and lost to history.

01:36:48.000 Interesting. You said they four times in that statement.

01:36:52.000 They then.

01:36:52.000 That's right.

01:36:53.000 Eva Ranska says, finally subscribed to your website.

01:36:56.000 Thank you for supporting truth in journalism.

01:36:58.000 You bet.

01:37:00.000 Every day we work really hard and I'm in the newsroom.

01:37:04.000 And if I see a story, I'll be like, guys, guys, you got to change this.

01:37:08.000 So we do, we do a lot of corrections because we want to make sure we're getting things right.

01:37:11.000 We even do what I would call frame checking, where we make sure the framing of the story.

01:37:15.000 There was one story we had where it was like Joe Biden criticized over these things.

01:37:19.000 And I said, nope.

01:37:20.000 Doing a story about how conservatives are criticizing Joe Biden, I think, is not news.

01:37:25.000 Make a story about what Joe Biden did, and that includes what the left thinks and what the right thinks.

01:37:30.000 We don't frame our stories like Biden condemned over this.

01:37:33.000 I mean, that's how the media operates.

01:37:34.000 They'll say, well, you know, you know, the left destroyed the rights arguments or, you know, Republicans pounce famously.

01:37:44.000 If it's an opinion piece, I got no issue with it, right?

01:37:45.000 Well, now there's no more opinion.

01:37:47.000 Now it's all the same.

01:37:48.000 I even as an editor look on certain sites I used to work at, and there was no way three, four, five years ago that that headline and that stuff would be without an opinion.

01:37:57.000 The Huffington Post is an opinion website.

01:38:00.000 Daily Beast is an opinion website.

01:38:01.000 And Vox.

01:38:03.000 But they masquerade as news.

01:38:05.000 And you read it and I'm like, those are all opinion statements.

01:38:08.000 They're not telling me something happened.

01:38:11.000 All right.

01:38:12.000 Let's see.

01:38:13.000 Tam Tom says, instead of spending $100,000 on a billboard, why not have a drawing for your website members and give away $10,000 to 10 members?

01:38:22.000 Actually help us regular folk who support you.

01:38:25.000 I mean, that would be cool.

01:38:26.000 We could do something like that.

01:38:27.000 And that would actually be an excellent marketing campaign, which would increase membership.

01:38:32.000 We'll do both.

01:38:33.000 The issue with the billboard that we did was that it's actually substantially cheaper than that.

01:38:37.000 Substantially cheaper.

01:38:38.000 I don't think people understand how cheap it is.

01:38:41.000 Let me explain something to you guys.

01:38:43.000 Do you want to know how much it costs to have your ad run on a billboard in Times Square?

01:38:48.000 Let's get a round of guesses.

01:38:50.000 I'm saying, well, I think you guys already know.

01:38:52.000 Yeah, we guessed before the show.

01:38:54.000 I guessed correctly.

01:38:55.000 He was closest.

01:38:56.000 No, I was closest.

01:38:57.000 I wasn't that close, to be fair.

01:38:58.000 It is $18.

01:39:00.000 Did you not know this?

01:39:01.000 That's all it is.

01:39:02.000 Google search it, and there are automated services where you log in, they'll give you the specs for the ad, and they'll say how many times you want it to run, and they say it costs $18 per run.

01:39:14.000 They may have a minimum of like 100 runs or whatever.

01:39:18.000 So it's like, okay, you need $1,800.

01:39:22.000 Maybe not everybody can afford that, but it's not a hundred- If you want to get, like, that big one right underneath the Genoa thing on Olive Garden, that one costs $625,000 per week.

01:39:29.000 That's crazy.

01:39:34.000 But most of these billboards are rotating digital video, and it's not that expensive.

01:39:42.000 Not only that, there's a whole bunch of different ads you can get.

01:39:46.000 You can go up to the biggest billboard in Times Square for $2.5 million per month, down to the bench on the side of the road, which is literally $100.

01:39:57.000 They're like, well, the bench is dirt cheap.

01:39:58.000 It'll cost you 300 bucks for the month.

01:40:00.000 So if you want to get I don't the billboard I don't want to give, I don't want to give away too many details because there's other companies involved.

01:40:09.000 Thanks to Teller Run so you know everything about billboards.

01:40:13.000 It takes five minutes to Google.

01:40:15.000 So you guys, you're talking about, people are saying, hey, troll Times Square.

01:40:19.000 Yes, it's easy.

01:40:20.000 Now there are laws and there are rules about what you can include in ads.

01:40:23.000 But yo, for real, got a couple hundred bucks. 0.95

01:40:26.000 You can get your ad to run right next to ABC News in Times Square for a couple hundred bucks for the day.

01:40:34.000 It is not that expensive.

01:40:35.000 So people are like, can you believe Tupel spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to do this?

01:40:41.000 It costs almost nothing.

01:40:44.000 They're expensive when you're doing big campaigns.

01:40:47.000 But you also got to understand that with the economy, you know, crumpling by 1.4%.

01:40:50.000 Yeah.

01:40:52.000 Yo, these ad agencies I'm willing to bet are kind of like, just let's book people as much as we can.

01:40:58.000 So Google search it, guys, because I'm really surprised.

01:41:02.000 I gotta say this.

01:41:05.000 I always wondered why it was more people didn't buy billboards and make statements and do things like we did with Taylor Lorenz calling her out. 1.00

01:41:13.000 How come more people aren't doing it?

01:41:15.000 How come more people aren't being like, I'll put a couple hundred bucks behind this.

01:41:19.000 How come no one's created like a GoFundMe?

01:41:21.000 Well, not GoFundMe, but a GiveSendGo.

01:41:22.000 Yes.

01:41:23.000 Saying, we're gonna raise 50 grand for a four-week run.

01:41:27.000 Oh my gosh.

01:41:27.000 On one of the biggest billboards.

01:41:29.000 And then we're going to put up a message.

01:41:31.000 They'll do it.

01:41:32.000 There are rules.

01:41:33.000 If it's a statement involving other people, it cannot be an advertisement.

01:41:37.000 So you won't be able to include links, but you can quite literally put up a sign saying, CNN lies all day, every day.

01:41:44.000 And that's all it says.

01:41:45.000 And they'll be like, sure, we'll put that up.

01:41:47.000 I don't care.

01:41:47.000 Give us your money.

01:41:49.000 And then if you get a bunch of your friends together and you get a couple grand, you'll have like one of the smaller billboards.

01:41:54.000 Not that expensive.

01:41:55.000 Granted, some of it can be expensive.

01:41:57.000 But the billboard that we got was nowhere near that expensive.

01:42:00.000 It depends on, well, to put it, to put it bluntly, it depends on how long the ad runs for.

01:42:05.000 Ours did not run that long.

01:42:06.000 Tim actually sent Ian and I out there with paint brushes.

01:42:09.000 And we just painted the LEDs.

01:42:16.000 Vanessa McCullough says, please, please listen to Falling in Reverse zombified. 0.99

01:42:21.000 It's about the culture war.

01:42:22.000 The video is a must watch.

01:42:23.000 I'm also a member.

01:42:24.000 Thank you for your work.

01:42:24.000 You want to take, take, take a note of that.

01:42:26.000 You want to write that down?

01:42:26.000 I'll watch that later.

01:42:27.000 Yeah.

01:42:31.000 Let's grab some Super Chats.

01:42:34.000 Never Again says, I wrote the code for 5.1 Surround for Solaris.

01:42:38.000 Shared to all, yet Apple never thanked me.

01:42:40.000 All others did.

01:42:41.000 Linux rocks.

01:42:42.000 Cool.

01:42:43.000 Was that Carry On?

01:42:44.000 Is the falling in reverse song that you're talking about?

01:42:46.000 Zombified. 0.91

01:42:47.000 Joe Biden is a kid diddler.

01:42:49.000 Says, Day one, Musk should move the company to Texas and turn the campus into a homeless shelter.

01:42:54.000 Agreed.

01:42:55.000 I tweeted that and got 50,000 likes.

01:42:56.000 Heck yeah! 0.96

01:42:57.000 That he should move to Texas.

01:43:00.000 I said, if he gets it, he should move it to Texas.

01:43:03.000 Absolutely.

01:43:03.000 And it was quite popular.

01:43:05.000 But then I get a lot of people in Texas like, don't bring these people here.

01:43:08.000 Please, yeah, don't.

01:43:09.000 Fortunately, they work from home, so I don't think I'll have to go with them.

01:43:11.000 Michael Lamour says, just started a membership recently.

01:43:14.000 Parts of that discussion with Derek Harvey the other evening were wild to listen to.

01:43:18.000 Yes, and after we wrapped, I think, was it Jack and you, or was it?

01:43:24.000 No, it was me and Shamus.

01:43:25.000 Yeah, it was the two of us.

01:43:27.000 We probably spoke with him for another 40 minutes.

01:43:29.000 Yeah, about policy, Middle East policy.

01:43:31.000 And so I was like, we should just record that, because the stories he was telling about what was going on there was nuts.

01:43:36.000 But we do have time limits and stuff, plus I got to wake up at 7 a.m.

01:43:40.000 But we definitely got to have Derek back, so he can just talk about all this stuff.

01:43:44.000 All right, Thomas Sidebottom says, it would seem I received my Leftist Tears tumbler from the Daily Wire at exactly the right time.

01:43:51.000 Oh, yeah.

01:43:51.000 Wonderful.

01:43:52.000 We got a free one of those too.

01:43:52.000 They gave us one of those free tumblers.

01:43:54.000 It's so cool.

01:43:55.000 I love it.

01:43:55.000 Yeah.

01:43:58.000 All right.

01:43:59.000 Sean Elmer says, I wish you would invite some First Amendment auditors such as Long Island Audits or Watching the Watchmen and his dad.

01:44:06.000 Both are on the front line of that movement.

01:44:08.000 Very reasonable people.

01:44:09.000 Interesting.

01:44:09.000 We'll take a look into it.

01:44:12.000 All right.

01:44:13.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:44:14.000 says, Lydia, madame, a super congratulations on your union with Andy.

01:44:18.000 We wish you well.

01:44:19.000 The best button pusher and producer in the game, F. Sour Patch Kids.

01:44:24.000 Oh, thank you.

01:44:25.000 Congratulations.

01:44:26.000 I did win.

01:44:27.000 I beat Sour Patch Kids.

01:44:28.000 Did you guys tie the knot today?

01:44:29.000 We did, yeah.

01:44:30.000 Today was our six-month anniversary, so we were like, we should do it today, even though it's a Thursday.

01:44:34.000 Oh, nice work.

01:44:35.000 Well, congratulations.

01:44:36.000 Thank you, thank you.

01:44:38.000 Alright, Voice of Junzi says, Hello TimCast, I'm a conservative YouTuber that makes essay and analyses on video games.

01:44:45.000 I believe we need voices in these spaces as the industry is the forefront of art.

01:44:49.000 Love you guys.

01:44:50.000 Help me grow.

01:44:50.000 Voice of Junzi.

01:44:52.000 Very, very cool.

01:44:53.000 I had an idea for a documentary series, and it was to make mini documentaries around video game concepts.

01:45:01.000 So we did this with Fallout from Fukushima.

01:45:04.000 Fallout 4 was coming out.

01:45:05.000 We said, let's go investigate Fukushima and see what's going on with the radiation stuff.

01:45:09.000 And then I had the idea.

01:45:10.000 They didn't want to do it, I guess.

01:45:12.000 But I was like, when these new video games come out, like Call of Duty, let's do a Call of Duty themed investigation into what are these weapons?

01:45:19.000 Who actually trains for them?

01:45:20.000 How close to reality do these video games get?

01:45:23.000 And actually, I think the pitch was like, can we get the companies to actually co-sponsor the documentaries because it would be like an ad for them.

01:45:33.000 Oh god, yeah.

01:45:36.000 All right, Tom Torgerson says, Torgerson, I am a trucker from Detroit and listened to your show the day after it's live.

01:45:43.000 I'm addicted.

01:45:44.000 Looking forward to some coffee beanie in the future.

01:45:47.000 Thanks for all you do.

01:45:48.000 Ian, watch Waking Life.

01:45:49.000 Great movie.

01:45:50.000 I've seen it before and I agree.

01:45:52.000 It was, I didn't think it was great, but it was really cool.

01:45:56.000 Yeah.

01:45:58.000 All right.

01:45:59.000 Ron Quay says, Tim, you always talk about the right, the right to nuclear arms.

01:46:03.000 Brandon Herrera, the AK guy, was on Raketa last night, and he is an FFL.

01:46:07.000 He said there is a form for nuclear arm sales, which surprised even him.

01:46:11.000 It shouldn't surprise you, good sir.

01:46:13.000 The right to keep and bear arms says arms.

01:46:16.000 I don't see it saying accept nuclear arms.

01:46:19.000 No, it says arms.

01:46:20.000 Arms.

01:46:24.000 A conscious perspective says, hey IRL team, here's a thought.

01:46:27.000 What if Elon knew about the inflated subscriber numbers and put all this into motion to expose Twitter and then be able to renegotiate his original offer?

01:46:35.000 Thoughts?

01:46:36.000 No, I don't think so.

01:46:38.000 I think he played them, cornered them, and knows what he's doing.

01:46:40.000 I think he's going to buy the platform.

01:46:43.000 I do.

01:46:43.000 So what could happen at this point that would prevent him from actually being able to move forward with that?

01:46:47.000 He gets a billion dollars.

01:46:49.000 If they break it off, he gets a billion dollars.

01:46:51.000 So what could cause them to break it off?

01:46:54.000 Shareholders.

01:46:55.000 That's it.

01:46:56.000 At this point, nothing.

01:46:57.000 Okay.

01:46:58.000 Because the offer's too sweet, their stock has gone down, this earnings, more problems.

01:47:03.000 The shareholders want nothing.

01:47:04.000 And the company would lose a billion dollars.

01:47:06.000 And Elon would get a billion dollars.

01:47:08.000 He's just not.

01:47:09.000 They're not gonna.

01:47:11.000 It's done.

01:47:14.000 Did you see that the FCC people wrote to the FCC about stopping it?

01:47:18.000 Oh my god.

01:47:19.000 Just to laugh.

01:47:20.000 Yeah, they actually said it was absurd.

01:47:23.000 Yeah, they actually said it was absurd.

01:47:25.000 Yep.

01:47:25.000 Alright, Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, I played Will of the People for my bro.

01:47:30.000 He liked.

01:47:30.000 Oh.

01:47:31.000 Very nice.

01:47:32.000 We just, I posted on Instagram, it's an isolated vocal track of the new Chicken City theme song.

01:47:38.000 And if you want to hear me sing the second verse about Roberto and Roberto Jr., you can check that out on my Instagram, instagram.com slash timcast.

01:47:45.000 It was fun.

01:47:45.000 And we'll put up, we've got a bunch of other songs we're working on, so, cool stuff.

01:47:49.000 I think Ian's gonna track some harmonies for Chicken City?

01:47:52.000 Chicken City theme song?

01:47:53.000 Probably next week, unless Carter's ready soon.

01:47:56.000 I'll check in with him tomorrow.

01:47:57.000 I'm watching you, Carter.

01:48:00.000 Carter Banks, ladies and gentlemen.

01:48:03.000 Citizen seven says Tim.

01:48:05.000 Do you have a YouTube account named Tim P?

01:48:07.000 What's app plus one three?

01:48:09.000 Oh two five four eight six five seven four Asterix question mark question mark question mark this account has replied to a couple of my comments in here And I fear it's a phishing attempt.

01:48:20.000 Hmm.

01:48:20.000 That is in fact not me.

01:48:22.000 No.

01:48:23.000 Yeah, someone must be an Impersonating wait, hold on bro.

01:48:25.000 I've been sending I Thought you needed my social security number, bro I actually do.

01:48:37.000 Oh, well, I'd sent it.

01:48:39.000 Not to me.

01:48:41.000 Ask them for it.

01:48:43.000 All right.

01:48:44.000 Stronger Than Stone says, do you think Elon could buy YouTube?

01:48:46.000 How awesome it would be if he did.

01:48:48.000 The future is looking bright, but the distance I still see a storm.

01:48:52.000 Get ready to put on your raincoats.

01:48:54.000 Take care, y'all.

01:48:55.000 Elon cannot buy YouTube.

01:48:57.000 YouTube's way too big.

01:48:59.000 And I don't think it's a publicly traded company, it's an asset of Google.

01:49:02.000 Alphabet, yeah.

01:49:03.000 Is it Alphabet or is it Google?

01:49:04.000 I think it's still Google, but Alphabet owns Google, right?

01:49:06.000 Right.

01:49:07.000 Or maybe they broke it up, I don't know.

01:49:09.000 Alright.

01:49:10.000 He's got as much debt as he needs right now.

01:49:14.000 RealManPra says, hey TeamCast, RomanianMountainMan here.

01:49:19.000 Quote, victory is written with the blood of the vanquished, and it perfectly represents the new age of culture.

01:49:24.000 P.S.

01:49:24.000 Ian, the love of my eardrums, it's go-bells, not ger-balls.

01:49:30.000 No ger-balls. 1.00

01:49:31.000 Thank you.

01:49:32.000 Go-balls. 0.87

01:49:33.000 Go-balls it is.

01:49:35.000 Go-balls. 0.87

01:49:37.000 BrewThatDew says, to help pay for your next billboard. 0.67

01:49:40.000 We'll see.

01:49:40.000 I am in preliminary discussions with some particular individuals about some very basic billboards that will result in a woke implosion.

01:49:52.000 Let me put it that way.

01:49:53.000 So the idea is just to like, hey, do you want to get a billboard just promoting you?

01:49:59.000 Because we know that when these people see these billboards in Times Square, they're going to be like, no!

01:50:03.000 Because it's not that expensive.

01:50:05.000 It is expensive.

01:50:05.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:50:06.000 If you want to get a good spot, like I said, the big one is $625,000 per week.

01:50:10.000 But there are so many in Times Square.

01:50:12.000 And you're not buying the whole billboard.

01:50:14.000 You're buying... And some of these things, it is a 15-second digital video in an 18-minute rotation.

01:50:21.000 So it's not as much as people might think it is.

01:50:24.000 They make their money on volume.

01:50:26.000 Yeah, it's going to be a whole lot of fun.

01:50:28.000 We're just going to try and spatter a bunch of ads all over the place.

01:50:32.000 And the thing is, for these agencies, they don't care.

01:50:33.000 It's going to be like so-and-so's new book coming out.

01:50:36.000 Check it out.

01:50:37.000 TimCast.com.

01:50:38.000 And people are going to see this dude's face and they're going to be like... You're going to trend.

01:50:41.000 I've already said you're going to trend on Twitter.

01:50:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:45.000 Well, we'll see how it plays out.

01:50:46.000 We'll see how it plays out.

01:50:48.000 All right.

01:50:49.000 Let's see what we got.

01:50:51.000 Alphonse says, shout out to Lids for calling MO great yesterday.

01:50:56.000 Libertarian culture, Ozarks, caves, and toasted ravioli.

01:50:58.000 Ooh, I love that.

01:50:59.000 Absolutely, yeah. 0.98

01:51:00.000 We had constitutional care before Texas, and our pizza makes Chicago's looks like poo-poo garbage. 0.97

01:51:05.000 Excuse me? 0.97

01:51:05.000 Y'all should've moved here instead. 0.97

01:51:07.000 Best state in the union.

01:51:08.000 That's a great state.

01:51:09.000 What state?

01:51:09.000 Missouri.

01:51:10.000 Missouri, wow.

01:51:11.000 Well, you know what they say, Missouri loves company.

01:51:15.000 Well, you know what they say, gotta get a slice of that Missouri pizza.

01:51:19.000 That's right!

01:51:21.000 Man, sure does make Chicago pizza look real bad.

01:51:24.000 We special order Missouri pizza.

01:51:30.000 We laugh at you!

01:51:31.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:51:33.000 I love Missouri.

01:51:33.000 But the pizza thing?

01:51:34.000 Come on, get out of here. 1.00

01:51:35.000 East St.

01:51:36.000 Louis pizza.

01:51:38.000 Because it's still Illinois and Illinois has Chicago?

01:51:41.000 No, it doesn't count.

01:51:41.000 Sorry.

01:51:43.000 All right.

01:51:44.000 Adam Brenneman says, Jimmy Kimmel stopped doing celebrities read mean tweets after Obama read Trump's tweet, then said Trump would never be president.

01:51:52.000 Oh, right.

01:51:52.000 That was a great moment.

01:51:53.000 Yikes.

01:51:54.000 Oh, brutal, man.

01:51:55.000 That was great.

01:51:56.000 That was so good. 0.59

01:51:57.000 Mike S. says, Disney doesn't say gay in China.

01:52:00.000 That's for sure.

01:52:01.000 AM says just scared the chickens awake per super chat whilst they were sleeping.

01:52:06.000 Sorry.

01:52:06.000 Oh no chickens.

01:52:08.000 So the issue the issue is that Crispy our chicken tender crispy crispy chicken tender was On a secret mission and unable to take care of the speaker being going off But I think they've taken care of it all right now because they're back I just had a thought about Obama trash-talking Trump and basically encouraging him to run against him.

01:52:28.000 Like in a war, you don't torture.

01:52:30.000 He did it at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

01:52:33.000 In a real war, you don't torture your opponents when you beat them.

01:52:36.000 So if we're in a culture war, at what point is it considered torturing people when they're down?

01:52:41.000 Like Taylor Lorenz, like, I want to lay off this girl right now because she's held captive and I don't want to torture the woman. 1.00

01:52:48.000 You know, I think there's some people who kind of deserve it.

01:52:52.000 Torture?

01:52:53.000 Well, I'm not saying torture, but criticism.

01:52:55.000 But if we're really in a culture war, if we're going to use these metaphors, at what point is criticism torturous?

01:52:59.000 So the issue is that she calls criticism torture, and it's like the first time she's ever experienced any kind of contrary voice to her own ideas.

01:53:07.000 Because I don't think we're in a culture war.

01:53:09.000 I would say if it becomes harassment.

01:53:10.000 I would say if you were like actually legitimately harassing a person.

01:53:15.000 I think if you make a good point against someone and then they're basically at your will after that, you have them, and then you keep going at them, that that's a form of torture.

01:53:26.000 It's definitely not pleasant, but I don't— It's not real torture.

01:53:28.000 It's not military torture, but it's culture war torture.

01:53:30.000 I don't want to soften the word torture.

01:53:32.000 That's my concern with that.

01:53:33.000 I don't want to soften the word war.

01:53:34.000 I don't like the word culture war either.

01:53:36.000 Interesting.

01:53:38.000 All right.

01:53:38.000 Amanda Freeman says, San Diego passed law to redefine women to include men.

01:53:44.000 Please discuss this.

01:53:45.000 Well, I don't know too much about that law, but that's about most.

01:53:48.000 Okay.

01:53:48.000 Interesting.

01:53:49.000 I looked that up.

01:53:50.000 I mean, I'm pretty sure New York essentially has that as well.

01:53:53.000 What a historic occasion upon which people have a right time.

01:53:57.000 Oh my goodness.

01:53:59.000 They really think they did something there, I'm sure.

01:54:01.000 How come everyone's putting one in the chat?

01:54:02.000 Did Tim say something?

01:54:03.000 That's you, Ian.

01:54:04.000 Tim must have done something.

01:54:05.000 It was totally Tim, yeah.

01:54:07.000 Alright, Jacob Frederick says, Hey Shim and crew, love the show, but I've heard you talk about Indiana being a pretty good conservative state before, but I beg to differ.

01:54:16.000 Since we have one of the highest gas taxes in the country and our governor vetoed a ban on trans men in women's sports.

01:54:23.000 That's messed up.

01:54:24.000 They shouldn't have done that.

01:54:25.000 However, I don't think you're gonna move to Cook County anytime soon because of how bad Indiana's getting.

01:54:31.000 All I'm saying is compared to where we came from, Indiana's doing decently.

01:54:36.000 I am very upset to hear what you just mentioned though, because that's completely unacceptable.

01:54:40.000 Once the red states go, there's nowhere left.

01:54:42.000 It's fear.

01:54:43.000 They're scared to death. 0.96

01:54:44.000 Trans people scare, they scare me and I'm a gay man. 1.00

01:54:48.000 Like they're terrifying. 1.00

01:54:49.000 There you get the mad boy, poof.

01:54:51.000 See, I take issue with it, though, to be honest, because it's the ideology, it's the cult, it's not...

01:54:57.000 Yeah, I mean, there are plenty of people who have, you know, issues.

01:55:00.000 Like a woke, progressive, liberal woman at a school teaching these kids things is the issue, right? 1.00

01:55:06.000 Right.

01:55:06.000 Oh my God.

01:55:07.000 And I always say this because, you know, there are trans people who clearly agree with us on ideological grounds.

01:55:12.000 But also there's this erasure of women where, you know, there's, what was it?

01:55:17.000 This thing came out the other day that it's a uterus. 0.99

01:55:21.000 Department of Education came out with a video that said that it's a person with a uterus.

01:55:26.000 Of course, yeah.

01:55:27.000 The way I see it is this is predominantly an issue of white liberal women. 1.00

01:55:33.000 Yes.

01:55:34.000 And then to a lesser degree men.

01:55:37.000 It's not an issue of trans people.

01:55:39.000 It's an issue of the weird cult which is predominantly like millennial white progressives.

01:55:46.000 You've got these teachers who are in these schools and they're not all trans.

01:55:51.000 Some of them are non-binary, but a lot of what we see in these rant videos are just like unwell people who are cultish. 0.98

01:55:58.000 Right.

01:55:58.000 I mean, it's the same thing that when I was growing up that you're going to turn kids gay if you talk about it and so forth.

01:56:05.000 You know, I have a lot of straight, tons of more straight friends than gay friends, and trust me, if a guy likes a woman, you're not gonna turn him, as much as you can try to convince him all you want, nothing's gonna. 0.99

01:56:15.000 All right, John Sanchez says, Tim Pool, duel me in Magic the Gathering, you coward! 0.98

01:56:21.000 Well, I only play commander for the most part, and you'd be obliterated. 0.91

01:56:25.000 Ian and I stopped playing because it got to the point where whoever went first won.

01:56:29.000 Yeah, too much pay to win.

01:56:31.000 In a draft, though, you might have a chance.

01:56:33.000 Nah, it's the win.

01:56:34.000 Ha ha! 0.86

01:56:36.000 The gauntlet is thrown.

01:56:37.000 We roll a d20 and then, you know, Ian would get a 15, I'd get a 7.

01:56:41.000 I'd go, oh, good game, Ian.

01:56:42.000 I'd shake his hand.

01:56:42.000 I've been playing Slay the Spire lately.

01:56:44.000 That's my card game.

01:56:45.000 What is that?

01:56:45.000 Digital card game.

01:56:46.000 One of the best math games ever made.

01:56:48.000 If you like turn-based strategy games, check out Slay the Spire.

01:56:51.000 Right on.

01:56:51.000 All right, Joseph Albacon says, 67-year-old boomer here and longtime subscriber.

01:56:56.000 I may not be key demographic, but I've been following you for five or six years now.

01:57:00.000 Fantastic guest.

01:57:01.000 Wish I was there since I have so much to add.

01:57:04.000 Well, thank you for your support.

01:57:05.000 Absolutely.

01:57:07.000 All right, John L. says, if you're going to watch the Zombified vid, you need to check out 5FDP Living the Dream vid.

01:57:15.000 It's COVID policy explained.

01:57:16.000 Hmm, interesting.

01:57:19.000 Ross Boisvert says, Tim and crew, I'm an AT&T business rep.

01:57:23.000 If you want a second look at options, shoot me a message on Twitter at the new Ross GB and I can get you my work contact info.

01:57:31.000 Yeah, maybe, but like, you know, when I walk in and I have impeccable credit and I'm running this business and I say, we just need, you know, hotspot, wifi.

01:57:41.000 And they're like, looks like the company is requiring you.

01:57:44.000 I'm like, nah, not interested.

01:57:45.000 Not going to happen.

01:57:47.000 You know, I am not really a fan of having to do certain kind of like special privilege things.

01:57:54.000 I don't like the idea that people use Twitter followings as weight to gain favors from companies.

01:57:58.000 I don't like the fact... Or complain about them.

01:58:00.000 Right.

01:58:00.000 Like if you're sitting on an airline.

01:58:02.000 Stop. 1.00

01:58:02.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:58:03.000 No one wants to hear about your late flight. 0.99

01:58:04.000 But here's what I don't like.

01:58:06.000 When I was dealing with an airline problem, I tweet once.

01:58:10.000 The problem is solved.

01:58:11.000 They call me instantly.

01:58:12.000 We're so sorry, sir. 0.99

01:58:14.000 And I know it works and sometimes you have to do it, but I'm like, it's so stupid that this has to be this way. 0.99

01:58:20.000 That you have to... Shame them. 0.99

01:58:23.000 Well, it's right.

01:58:25.000 I should be able to call them up and be like, hey man, treat me and everyone else like good paying customers.

01:58:30.000 It's like a two hour wait to call an airline these days.

01:58:33.000 Oh, it's insane.

01:58:34.000 Yeah.

01:58:35.000 And so, that's the way it is.

01:58:37.000 It's privilege.

01:58:38.000 Through all the money and the politics, there's just nothing that compares to having a mob of people behind you.

01:58:43.000 No, absolutely.

01:58:44.000 Or a crowd of people behind you.

01:58:45.000 It's just unstoppable force.

01:58:46.000 And they're scared.

01:58:47.000 That's what the money's supposed to buy when it's effective, right?

01:58:50.000 We did!

01:58:50.000 Daniel Smith says, Tim, fact check your 16 food pressing plant fire story.

01:58:54.000 Great YouTuber 2A advocate, Johnny B, mentioned the Timcast article in his deep dive video.

01:58:59.000 He only found like six actual fires.

01:59:01.000 We did.

01:59:02.000 I was mildly perturbed at the quality of that article.

01:59:07.000 It was not good.

01:59:09.000 And I even said the story should have been framed as Tucker Carlson was talking about it, people on Twitter were talking about it, but you need to understand fires might just happen all the time and we may just have noticed them.

01:59:21.000 However, it is true because we did the fact checking, there actually were substantially more fires this year in the first quarter than I think all of last year.

01:59:29.000 Yeah.

01:59:29.000 So, something did happen.

01:59:32.000 But, um, you know, we just had bad links and bad sources, and so, you know, these things happen.

01:59:36.000 I got no problem saying that, uh, we... we make mistakes.

01:59:41.000 We correct them when we can.

01:59:42.000 You know, we try not to make mistakes.

01:59:44.000 If we were like the Daily Beast, we would just say, no, and we'd leave it up for the clicks, because the Daily Beast doesn't correct their articles.

01:59:50.000 All right.

01:59:51.000 T. Didymus says, I can't believe Tim Poole spent so much money on a Times Square ad.

01:59:56.000 Harumph! 1.00

01:59:57.000 Yeah, uh, we didn't.

01:59:59.000 It's so cheap.

02:00:00.000 Yeah, it was really crazy.

02:00:01.000 I was always wondering, like, how does this stuff work?

02:00:04.000 And then I googled it, and it's like, log in, submit your ad, and we'll play it.

02:00:09.000 And I'm like, it's that fast?

02:00:11.000 Yo, they're just TV screens.

02:00:12.000 But also, you, if you want an analogous of that, at the moment, you had a fire, you took $18 of gasoline and just threw it on it, because Whatever you paid for the thing was six.

02:00:24.000 I mean that thing that was a picture of that went everywhere Oh, yeah, I took a Carlson shadow as a I saw it and friend in Spain and daily wire hooked it up, you know went everywhere Yeah, daily wire already had the billboard and then the secondary story was her responding and you know Her being upset.

02:00:42.000 You know, my issue with it is just that she uses the Washington Post as a weapon. 1.00

02:00:47.000 This is what these journalists do.

02:00:50.000 They're typically activists.

02:00:52.000 They have no real power.

02:00:54.000 So they get jobs at major institutions and it's like they're using someone else's 50 0.74

02:01:00.000 Cal.

02:01:01.000 So I said, let me play the same game.

02:01:03.000 Let me get a billboard.

02:01:04.000 That's how I feel about the president, man.

02:01:05.000 These people get elected through a popularity contest and then they get all this institutional power.

02:01:10.000 Like, what right does he have to create a board of mistrust that he's going to start?

02:01:14.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

02:01:15.000 That's an abuse of power.

02:01:16.000 It's an abuse of institutional power.

02:01:18.000 And menthol cigarettes all the same.

02:01:21.000 Yeah, I just... I want to mention this again about Taylor Lorenz.

02:01:24.000 The woman was on MSNBC literally crying because she said she's so worried about what people might do with her information.

02:01:30.000 So she knows there are bad actors online and even dangerous actors online.

02:01:33.000 And she finds someone who she doesn't like politically and she throws their address out to the public. 0.89

02:01:38.000 Yep.

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