Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Twitter SUSPENDS Crowder After Claiming PROOF Of Fake Voter Addresses w-Mike Cernovich

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:32.000 you ladies and gentlemen I've got here a special logger

00:01:00.000 I'm going to crack it open.

00:01:02.000 Pour one out for our good friend Steven Crowder.

00:01:04.000 No, I'm not really going to pour it out.

00:01:05.000 I don't want to get beer all over my studio.

00:01:07.000 I'll actually drink it.

00:01:08.000 Crowder got locked out on Twitter.

00:01:10.000 Oh, now I spilled it. 1.00

00:01:11.000 You see what happens when I try and do a stupid bit? 1.00

00:01:13.000 Like Marco Rubio. 1.00

00:01:14.000 Crowder got locked out!

00:01:15.000 Like Marco Rubio.

00:01:16.000 Is that what he did?

00:01:17.000 He spilled beer?

00:01:18.000 He had the little baby bottle and he was very awkward about it.

00:01:21.000 So Crowder goes on Twitter.

00:01:23.000 He has a segment where he sent some, I guess you can call them investigative journalists.

00:01:29.000 To look into voter addresses that were in a database and turns out there are a bunch of parking lots.

00:01:35.000 He had them hold up a newspaper from this week and Crowder is saying he can prove, this is what Crowder is saying, that many of these addresses in these databases don't actually exist.

00:01:46.000 That's all he's saying.

00:01:48.000 He tweeted that.

00:01:49.000 Twitter has locked him out for 12 hours.

00:01:50.000 I'll tell you what's really annoying.

00:01:52.000 I tweeted that he's been suspended.

00:01:53.000 I put in the title of this video, he's been suspended because that's what suspend means.

00:01:57.000 Suspend is temporary.

00:01:59.000 But Twitter likes to claim suspension.

00:02:02.000 They use that word because ban is so harsh and it's bad press.

00:02:06.000 So they'll suspend you permanently.

00:02:09.000 Yeah, okay.

00:02:09.000 Permanent suspension.

00:02:11.000 That's dumb. 0.97

00:02:12.000 It's a temporary suspension. 0.98

00:02:13.000 He'll be back, and he'll probably have a ton to say, but we're going to talk about what he found, and I'm sure many of you saw his segment from the morning, so I think there's a lot to talk about in this regard, and what happened with the Supreme Court, because Clarence Thomas basically dropped a hammer saying, it looks like there was a good argument from these Republicans in Pennsylvania about mail-in voting.

00:02:34.000 We'll get into all that stuff.

00:02:35.000 We've got a bunch of other articles, obviously.

00:02:37.000 We always do.

00:02:38.000 We'll talk about Coca-Cola, because LinkedIn is now panicking after Coca-Cola said, try to be less white.

00:02:43.000 Now LinkedIn is getting flack for it.

00:02:44.000 So we'll get into all that stuff.

00:02:45.000 We also have something tweeted by Matthew Iglesias.

00:02:48.000 He's one of the co-founders of Vox.com.

00:02:50.000 He tweeted something about how he wanted to, like, just cause drama.

00:02:54.000 And it's a poll about men and women and who wants to be working at home and who wants to be working.

00:03:01.000 And so obviously, no matter what the poll results are, he's trying to light the internet on fire.

00:03:05.000 But I think it's a good subject.

00:03:06.000 We'll talk about it.

00:03:07.000 And we actually have someone here who is probably a good person to talk about a lot of this stuff.

00:03:10.000 We got Mike Cernovich.

00:03:12.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:13.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:03:14.000 Yeah, Mike Cernovich.

00:03:15.000 Just got in town.

00:03:17.000 Long trip.

00:03:19.000 It's good to see everyone.

00:03:20.000 You seem wiped out.

00:03:21.000 No, not wiped out at all.

00:03:22.000 It's just whenever it's somebody else's show, I like to let them pace it.

00:03:26.000 Yeah.

00:03:26.000 Because I just don't believe in going into someone else's show and be like, you know, here we are.

00:03:29.000 Oh, well, do it to it, man.

00:03:30.000 Yeah, you gotta find the rhythm with the other person or else they'll... Well, how would you describe yourself for those that might not be familiar with you?

00:03:37.000 You know, at this point, I don't even know, man.

00:03:38.000 I just hang out with my kids all the time now, but I'm still sort of an entity that exists that can get attention and move the needle on certain things.

00:03:47.000 But I started off primarily doing mindset work, guerrilla mindset.

00:03:51.000 pull up a little bit yeah yeah I primarily started off doing mindset work

00:03:54.000 gorilla mindset start off as a lawyer that rain into you the first time at the

00:04:00.000 I think you were with Fusion.

00:04:02.000 And that was your, I think, early iterations.

00:04:06.000 That was where everybody was like, don't talk to that guy.

00:04:08.000 That guy's at Fusion.

00:04:10.000 Avoid that guy. 0.89

00:04:11.000 They're woke.

00:04:12.000 Avoid that guy. 0.89

00:04:13.000 I was hanging out with Luke.

00:04:14.000 I remember meeting you there too.

00:04:16.000 Some guy lit himself on fire.

00:04:18.000 Yeah, we got that great video of the person burning a flag and then somebody went to kick the flag out and then it got caught in a woman's dress, actually.

00:04:25.000 She had this long flowing dress.

00:04:27.000 And then that was where I just got into the carnage of the media political world and probably, you know, at the conventions.

00:04:34.000 And I'd done other little things here and there.

00:04:36.000 And then, you know, I just kind of like became a thing, plugged along.

00:04:40.000 My friends got all hired in the White House.

00:04:42.000 So then I had all the, like, the best stories and sources and everything.

00:04:45.000 So then we'd break all that stuff.

00:04:47.000 and then you're like a movie but I mean hey I was in your movie you guys are the best parts yeah Bilderberg yeah Luke Bilderberg so you guys are it's weird cuz I'm the oldest guy but you guys are like ancient in terms of having been around much longer in this world I was like, wait, that was Luke at Bilderberg in, I don't know, 2012 or something.

00:05:09.000 2007.

00:05:09.000 Yeah, a long time ago.

00:05:11.000 I think it's interesting how you gained a lot of prominence as one of the highest profile Trump supporters, but then you started calling out.

00:05:16.000 It's going to be interesting as we get into, you know, talking about Crowder and stuff.

00:05:19.000 You started talking about how, like, it's over, basically.

00:05:22.000 You're like, these people are duping you who are claiming that there's going to be some magic turnaround.

00:05:25.000 People got mad at you for it.

00:05:26.000 A lot of Trump supporters were mad, but you were right.

00:05:29.000 Yeah, because I came from, you know, like a law background, law school.

00:05:33.000 I knew all the Federalist Society people.

00:05:35.000 I know how elite people kind of think.

00:05:37.000 I was actually chapter president in law school for my own society.

00:05:40.000 So I've done all these little things, met all the right people, the white shoe people. 1.00

00:05:44.000 And I'm just like, this is not the way the world works.

00:05:47.000 And people get mad because one thing Trump did that was amazing is he brought out what they call low propensity voters, but people who don't actually vote.

00:05:55.000 So this was their first election.

00:05:56.000 So they come in and they want to like tell me things and I'm like, what you're telling me is wrong.

00:06:01.000 Everything you're telling me is wrong.

00:06:03.000 Everything from how the Supreme Court operates to how the Supreme Court, because if you talk about the Clarence Thomas dissent from denial of certiorari, the idea is the Supreme Court is an institution that makes political decisions.

00:06:15.000 It isn't just a bunch of judges looking up the law and making these choices.

00:06:19.000 They're saying, well, after January 6th, do you want to risk the legitimacy of the court to side with Trump who Right.

00:06:27.000 Does anybody really like him anyway?

00:06:29.000 We'll get into all that, especially with the Crowder stuff.

00:06:31.000 We also got Luke.

00:06:32.000 He's hanging out.

00:06:32.000 Welcome back, beautiful and amazing human beings.

00:06:34.000 This is Okudowski of WeAreChange.org.

00:06:36.000 I like a high pace, as you can see here, with my conversations.

00:06:39.000 And I think the shirt I'm wearing, I need to clarify, statistically is correct.

00:06:44.000 And it says, for your information, the government is way deadlier than any virus.

00:06:49.000 Historically, that's true. 0.84

00:06:50.000 And if you want to support me and get the shirt, you can on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.

00:06:54.000 Thanks so much for having me.

00:06:55.000 I love the conversations here.

00:06:57.000 What up, guys?

00:06:58.000 I'm Ian Crosland coming at you from the internets.

00:07:00.000 Mike, you mentioned Guerrilla Mindset.

00:07:01.000 I just wanted to show this book.

00:07:03.000 This is your book, and you wrote this in 2015.

00:07:06.000 Can you tell me, what is this exactly?

00:07:08.000 Yeah, I mean, it did well, too.

00:07:09.000 It actually did a lot.

00:07:10.000 It was a mindset book for men, but it was more like manual.

00:07:15.000 By manual, I mean like a manual.

00:07:17.000 Versus, hey, get rah-rah, get hyped up, get motivated, because the genre of self-help or self-development is largely YouTube videos of a guy saying, and then he dragged me into the water and was gonna drown me and said, but you want success so much that you're gonna drown, then you really want it in your heart. 0.92

00:07:36.000 And I thought, that's just kind of dumb.

00:07:38.000 You're sitting around watching YouTube videos all day. 0.90

00:07:40.000 What's an actual specific a step-by-step program that you can take and apply.

00:07:45.000 And it's largely written for introverts.

00:07:47.000 There's a lot of stuff there about self-talk, a lot of there about rewiring memories in your mind, rewiring your thought processes.

00:07:54.000 So it's about going deep into yourself on a mindset level.

00:07:58.000 And that one I did in, that came out in 2015.

00:08:01.000 Where's the best place people can get these?

00:08:03.000 We'll definitely get to that later.

00:08:04.000 So we also have side-patch lists.

00:08:05.000 I am here pushing the buttons.

00:08:07.000 I'm going to love this conversation.

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00:08:29.000 And it just helps protect us in the event that we eventually get nuked because we're going to be, we're talking about this a lot, I guess.

00:08:34.000 Steven Crowder is locked out of Twitter and, you know, so.

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00:08:40.000 That being said, let's jump to the first story.

00:08:43.000 I tweeted this.

00:08:45.000 Steven Crowder has been suspended from Twitter after saying he can confirm that people voted at addresses that do not exist.

00:08:52.000 He stated the same in a video.

00:08:54.000 So you may have seen the video.

00:08:55.000 It came up earlier this morning.

00:08:58.000 He, uh, did this on his morning show.

00:09:00.000 He literally sent people to addresses.

00:09:03.000 Let me see if I can pull up, like, a screenshot.

00:09:04.000 I'm trying to find it.

00:09:05.000 There we go.

00:09:06.000 Wait, we just lost it.

00:09:07.000 So, there we go.

00:09:09.000 Is that?

00:09:10.000 Let me see.

00:09:10.000 I'll just play a little clip from this, from his bit.

00:09:12.000 So, you can see they're holding up the newspaper.

00:09:14.000 They go, and they find these, like, well, this is just like, looks like a house.

00:09:18.000 Here we go.

00:09:19.000 Empty parking lots?

00:09:20.000 One of them that was really interesting was that they're holding up a newspaper and they show an empty parking lot and apparently there was supposed to be an apartment number 409.

00:09:29.000 Now, I'll put it very, very simply.

00:09:31.000 Crowder claimed all of this on YouTube.

00:09:35.000 He straight up said that he can prove it and he will testify under penalty of perjury that this is true, these addresses do not exist.

00:09:42.000 I'm simply saying, he's saying it, I'm showing you what I saw.

00:09:46.000 It looks compelling.

00:09:47.000 I wouldn't need to actually check the addresses because, I gotta be honest, I'm just seeing Crowder's video, but I don't think he'd go and he'd make this up.

00:09:53.000 The crazy thing is, Crowder did not say, he actually clarified this very, very clearly, that he's not saying this is evidence of any, you know, bigger scheme or anything like that, just that they found evidence of addresses that don't exist.

00:10:05.000 That's all it is.

00:10:06.000 It doesn't mean the entire election is bunk or anything like that, but they should certainly be looked into, right?

00:10:11.000 That's...

00:10:12.000 Well, that's as far as any reasonable person would go until you get to like courts or adjudication.

00:10:18.000 Twitter took down, locked his account because he tweeted this.

00:10:23.000 That to me is absolutely insane because he actually has video showing this.

00:10:27.000 So he did put up an article on his website and he says, proof we went to fake voter addresses.

00:10:33.000 He talks quite a bit about it, but that's the gist of the story.

00:10:36.000 You should check out his bit too because it was pretty funny where he kind of talks about Mike Lindell having this bad information.

00:10:41.000 believing this Dominion stuff and I was getting sued over it. But he also mentions that, you know,

00:10:46.000 Mike Lindell has this documentary called Absolute Proof and Crowder did the segment called like

00:10:50.000 Absolute Proof 100% Fair Trade Definitive and all that stuff. So I actually I think, you know,

00:10:56.000 considering Mike, you're a lawyer, I'm curious what your thoughts are, because we should we

00:11:00.000 should definitely talk about the Supreme Court as well and Pennsylvania. Yeah, the so that was

00:11:05.000 another reason that I clash so much with the first time Trump voters is they were coming.

00:11:11.000 They were saying all this Dominion stuff.

00:11:12.000 I'm like, no, that's not how it works.

00:11:13.000 There was no shootout.

00:11:15.000 Like I'm like, why am I the debunker?

00:11:17.000 My job.

00:11:18.000 You mean in Germany?

00:11:19.000 They claimed servers were being airlifted.

00:11:21.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:11:22.000 Satellites in Italy.

00:11:23.000 Someone was telling me that.

00:11:24.000 I'm like, huh?

00:11:25.000 Are you kidding me?

00:11:28.000 And I hate doing that because Trump supporters are so attacked on every side.

00:11:32.000 The last thing I want to do is shoot inside the bunker.

00:11:35.000 But I don't want people to believe things that are wrong.

00:11:38.000 And the problem here, to tie you to that point with Crowder, there was a guy, you guys would know his name, I forget it right now, but he went through and did an analysis like this of nursing homes, halfway houses, other areas, and by the way, I'm not making any claims.

00:11:53.000 But it showed like, oh wow, so there's a hundred votes came out of here.

00:11:56.000 Some of them are supposedly mail drops.

00:11:58.000 There were a lot of things that you could look at, like Crowder looked at, but instead everybody now thinks the narrative is that a few goofballs on the internet, or in the case of Mike Lindell, a successful entrepreneur who believes what he said, which as a lawyer makes that a really interesting case because usually, as you know, To sue someone for defamation, you have to show actual malice.

00:12:20.000 Malice doesn't mean that you didn't like the person.

00:12:22.000 Malice means that you didn't actually believe what you were saying.

00:12:25.000 Or you entertained doubts about what you were saying.

00:12:28.000 That Michael Lindell knew what he was saying was false.

00:12:30.000 The dude believes it all.

00:12:31.000 Yeah, he believes.

00:12:32.000 And he's like, hell yeah, you're suing me.

00:12:33.000 This is amazing.

00:12:34.000 I can't wait to see you guys in court.

00:12:36.000 So as a lawyer, this is actually a newer area of law, like how do you actually get him for defamation?

00:12:42.000 But the problem is that became the whole narrative of it where now Mark Elias and other people say, oh, the Trump people filed a hundred lawsuits.

00:12:49.000 None of them went anywhere.

00:12:50.000 This is proof there was nothing there.

00:12:51.000 And it's like, no, they filed like a couple.

00:12:54.000 One of them was the Pennsylvania one that didn't get heard.

00:12:57.000 And when you look at the issues that they tried to resolve, they were quite interesting.

00:13:01.000 Or if you look at the evidence that was presented that Crowder is presenting, it's quite interesting.

00:13:06.000 It's the kind of thing that makes you go, hmm, maybe you should think about, but that's been completely hidden in the squid ink of this Dominion stuff and all the weird conspiracy.

00:13:16.000 I rarely call someone a conspiracy theory, but there's no other word for that kind of stuff.

00:13:20.000 If I had to have a conspiracy, it would be that the conspiracies are the conspiracy to derail the actual conspiracy.

00:13:26.000 You see?

00:13:26.000 You see what I did there?

00:13:27.000 No, I believe that.

00:13:28.000 I'm not saying it's true.

00:13:30.000 I'm just joking.

00:13:31.000 No, but I actually vacillate between, because there's some people that are so, they lead people down such a bad path that you think in life, you get lucky.

00:13:42.000 You're going to have some wins and you're just a loss after loss after loss.

00:13:45.000 So I'm a little COINTELPRO conspiracy oriented to where I do think a lot of people do set you up.

00:13:51.000 Well, you don't need to have a conspiracy here.

00:13:52.000 We have Cass Sunstein, Obama's information czar, that literally wrote the playbook on disinformation, and he talked about creating fake conspiracies to make anyone questioning government look insane.

00:14:03.000 And he did this specifically with a lot of family members and rescue workers in New York City after the 2001 events.

00:14:09.000 He wrote it in his own bylines, in his own published paper.

00:14:14.000 I asked him about it.

00:14:15.000 He denied even writing it, even though it's still up there on the internet.

00:14:18.000 Where is it published?

00:14:19.000 It was published in one of scientific journals that he wrote about how to combat and fight disinformation and one of his ways was infiltrating groups in real life and online and making them look crazy.

00:14:32.000 And that's what I kept complaining about when these people come out with these really absurd conspiracies about like C.I.A.

00:14:38.000 agents storming German servers and then like Italy and whatever.

00:14:41.000 I'm like, who cares?

00:14:43.000 Who cares?

00:14:44.000 We've got a constitutional legal battle happening in Pennsylvania that's more important and could have a bigger result.

00:14:50.000 You had credible testimony under oath in the Michigan hearings.

00:14:53.000 I actually watched the hearings and my jaws were dropping.

00:14:56.000 You had credible Normal, decent people providing eyewitness testimony of what they saw, but nobody watched the hearings.

00:15:03.000 The Pennsylvania hearing, that didn't really get covered.

00:15:04.000 The Michigan one, which I found quite persuasive, wasn't really covered.

00:15:08.000 So now when people think of, you know, I don't want F-R-A-U-D of the election, then... 0.95

00:15:15.000 That's what they think is all this really kooky stuff, when actually there were issues.

00:15:19.000 There were issues with people changing the rules midstream, which is what happened in Pennsylvania.

00:15:22.000 Whereas you aptly tweeted, if they change the rules and you sue, they go, well, you don't have standing, nothing bad has happened.

00:15:28.000 And then the rules are applied, and then you sue, and they go, well, it's too late now, it's moot.

00:15:32.000 Right?

00:15:32.000 It's like Catch-22, yeah.

00:15:34.000 That's a horrifying precedent.

00:15:36.000 And that's basically what we got with Clarence Thomas, in his dissent.

00:15:39.000 He said, we failed to, you know, Right, and that was a legitimate legal issue.

00:15:53.000 That was a legitimate case that should have been heard.

00:15:55.000 But the Supreme Court justices, I think Kavanaugh and Barrett, I think they would have heard it had January 6th not happened.

00:16:03.000 And moreover, had there not been all of these, the Linwood stuff and all this other things that people brought up, you don't want to be caught up in that net of, here's all the kooks and the kooks are in the net, and now you're a Supreme Court justice and you're in the net with them. 0.95

00:16:18.000 I hear you, but man, talk about cowards. 0.96

00:16:22.000 I wouldn't care. 0.98

00:16:22.000 I don't care. 0.98

00:16:23.000 Okay, well, I'll make the case for them, then.

00:16:24.000 I'll make the case for John Roberts as an institutionalist.

00:16:28.000 The way that John Roberts would say it, if you were being candid, is that this is how you learn it in federal courts and law school, and the Supreme Court is a co-equal branch of government, just like the Congress and just like the executive branch.

00:16:42.000 They had to fight and scrape for all their legitimacy and all their power.

00:16:45.000 The Supreme Court was not powerful at all, actually, before the Warren Court in the 1950s.

00:16:51.000 So what do they have?

00:16:52.000 They don't have guns.

00:16:53.000 They don't have a budget.

00:16:54.000 They don't have any real power.

00:16:56.000 All their power is soft power.

00:16:57.000 So if you're going to enter an area where there's such a narrative that's already set so strongly, as there is now with this election stuff, then you're attacking or you're going to make the institution weaker by doing it.

00:17:10.000 Now, you would come back and say why you don't agree with that, and I would agree with you. 0.97

00:17:15.000 But that would be what John Roberts would argue.

00:17:17.000 So when people talk about John Roberts, a lot of conservatives, people especially, he's an institutionalist.

00:17:23.000 So fundamentally, even Comey was the same way.

00:17:26.000 Comey was way worse, crooked, so maybe not the right example.

00:17:31.000 The idea is you protect the institution, the institution of the Supreme Court.

00:17:34.000 That means you have to pick your battles.

00:17:36.000 And if you're going through the calculus, you're thinking, yeah, you know, do we really want to get involved in all this stuff when there's talk of insurrection?

00:17:42.000 It could be that it's a fight they knew they weren't going to win anyway, so they said it was moot.

00:17:46.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:47.000 And some people call it a cop-out, which is a fair point.

00:17:50.000 Other people will say that you have to protect the soft power of the Supreme Court.

00:17:54.000 And there's a fair point to that, because a lot of our institutions have lost soft power.

00:17:59.000 When you say that he would fear that it's going to weaken the institution, is that that it will weaken the perception of the institution through the media?

00:18:05.000 Well, yeah, through the collective hive mind.

00:18:08.000 So the idea is that the Supreme Court can't cut anyone's budget.

00:18:12.000 But Congress, if they wanted to, could cut the law clerk budget. 1.00

00:18:15.000 There's all these different ways that they could mess with them.

00:18:18.000 The Supreme Court, if they want to have an order in force, they can't have the FBI kick down the door and take power. 0.89

00:18:24.000 Their rule is by reason.

00:18:26.000 Their rule is by soft power.

00:18:28.000 Their rule is by people saying, that's the Supreme Court opinion.

00:18:31.000 That really means something.

00:18:33.000 After Bush vs. Gore, you got to remember, if we hadn't had 9-11, Bush vs. Gore would have been four years of Bush being the orange man.

00:18:41.000 The institution of the court, the soft power of the court, had declined significantly because it was a close opinion on partisan lines, and it was a little dodgy even by my assessment of it.

00:18:52.000 So you had a loss of institutional power, a loss of soft power, the idea that this is the Supreme Court, this is an edict, you should follow it because Ultimately, if the Supreme Court issues a ruling that an executive officer doesn't like, the president could just say, well, who cares, right?

00:19:08.000 There was a, I believe it was Andrew Jackson, who said the Supreme Court has issued their ruling, now let them enforce it.

00:19:13.000 That, all that historical background is swirling around.

00:19:17.000 And it is fundamentally true.

00:19:18.000 If the Supreme Court issued a ruling and Trump didn't want to follow it, he could just say, we're just not going to abide by this rule.

00:19:24.000 What are you going to do?

00:19:25.000 I have my Praetorian Guard.

00:19:27.000 So there's a lot of conflict there.

00:19:29.000 And soft power is kind of an amorphous term too, which is how do people rule?

00:19:35.000 Well, the Supreme Court, they don't have any hard power.

00:19:36.000 Congress has hard power, right?

00:19:38.000 Like what?

00:19:39.000 Subpoena power?

00:19:40.000 Well, by hard power I mean they can actually do things to you, like you don't have a budget, the lights aren't going to work, they can pass laws making something a crime, they have an enforcement mechanism, whereas even the media, to put a different example, the media has no hard power, it's soft power.

00:19:55.000 As more people just say, we don't really care.

00:19:57.000 As Elon Musk tells the Washington Post, I don't care, I'm not going to answer your articles.

00:20:01.000 And as more people say, we like Elon, we don't like the media, who cares?

00:20:05.000 The media doesn't have any power anymore, right?

00:20:07.000 The power is only in that ability to shape public opinion, the ability that, oh, this is in the New York Times, this must be matter, this must be true, this is how we're going to live our lives.

00:20:15.000 So that's the Supreme Court, even though it's a branch of government.

00:20:18.000 Elon's response was pretty telling today because the Washington Post quoted him as saying, quote, give my regards to your puppet masters when they asked him for an interview.

00:20:27.000 So he didn't just like shun them away.

00:20:30.000 He made sure to send them a message, especially to the Washington Post, which is being seen more of an institutional establishment kind of paper of record for the intelligence agencies.

00:20:39.000 I won't.

00:20:39.000 I won't do interviews with any of these people.

00:20:41.000 I won't.

00:20:41.000 I ignore them.

00:20:42.000 And honestly, even in, like, smaller independent and, you know, whatever, you know, channels, I won't do that for the most part either.

00:20:48.000 There's very, very few anything I'll do with anyone else. 0.97

00:20:52.000 The whole system is just, man, is a clown show, to put it mildly. 0.95

00:20:56.000 Right. 0.89

00:20:56.000 And their soft power has declined. 0.89

00:20:57.000 So here's what I mean by that is it used to be that a hit piece would actually kind of damage you, right?

00:21:03.000 You got hit, you got written about it, said bad things.

00:21:05.000 People say, Ooh, I don't know if I want to talk to that person to be around that person.

00:21:08.000 And then it changed the point where I don't even respond.

00:21:11.000 Only kind of boomers like Jordan Peterson respond to hit pieces.

00:21:14.000 Oh, read this mean thing they said about me.

00:21:16.000 Everybody else knows your people aren't even gonna read it.

00:21:18.000 99 of them aren't even gonna read it, first of all.

00:21:21.000 The ones who do read it aren't even gonna believe it.

00:21:23.000 So even if the media writes something about you critical that's true, Your own followers are gonna say, oh, they probably just made the whole thing up, the whole thing's fake.

00:21:30.000 That's a change, though, and that's what I mean by the soft power, the ability to shape narrative, the ability to shape public perception. 0.96

00:21:36.000 I gotta be honest, if that's, I hear what you're saying, and I understand it, and that sounds to me like the Supreme Court is a bunch of cowards, they're weak, they're pathetic, they have no real power anyway, and it sounds like you've got these three branches of government where they pretend the Supreme Court is co-equal, when in reality, they're like the loser kids in the corner of the playground And their only claim to power, they're like that little kid in recess who would suck up to the teacher, is just crossing their fingers and hoping you listen to them. 0.96

00:22:04.000 If they're not actually going to stand up for anything, then what's the point of having it in the first place?

00:22:07.000 Well, they would say that they're just a check on government and that checks should be used in exceptional circumstances and under limited circumstances.

00:22:15.000 That was the idea.

00:22:16.000 That's why when people talk about judicial activism, they're talking about the court taking a very active role as the Warren card.

00:22:23.000 Oh, there's a right to this, there's a right to this, there's a right to that, there's a right to that.

00:22:26.000 These rights are protected.

00:22:28.000 The other rule, or rather the other view of the court is a more conservative one, jurisprudentially, not necessarily politically, which is that the Supreme Court shouldn't get involved in this kind of stuff.

00:22:38.000 So I'll give you a great example.

00:22:40.000 If the Senate had convicted Trump and Trump had tried to sue in the Supreme Court, there's

00:22:46.000 something called the political question doctrine, which holds that they would just say, this

00:22:50.000 isn't for us to decide.

00:22:51.000 This is a political question.

00:22:52.000 So there's things called abstention doctrines, which is a little bit different from standing.

00:22:57.000 But the idea of abstention is, even when the Supreme Court has jurisdiction, they won't

00:23:02.000 hear the case under these various doctrines.

00:23:03.000 So you're right in the sense that they're not the most powerful, but somebody like John

00:23:08.000 John Roberts would maybe cheekily respond, That's the point.

00:23:12.000 We are the little kids.

00:23:13.000 We're not the one who's supposed to exercise this power.

00:23:17.000 If that were the case, and it sounds like it is, then that means serious trouble for this country.

00:23:23.000 It means there's no resolution to serious disputes.

00:23:26.000 It means that the conflict that has been escalating over the past several years will have no resolution.

00:23:30.000 Your hope is that this council of legal experts and elders can step in and say, we've heard the arguments and we will now be the tiebreaker, the referee in this one.

00:23:41.000 Instead, they said, you've complained.

00:23:43.000 You've actually brought up some interesting arguments.

00:23:46.000 Shove it.

00:23:46.000 Yeah.

00:23:47.000 I mean, look at the way Andrew Cuomo treated the Supreme Court.

00:23:49.000 They told him, they ruled his lockdown orders were unconstitutional.

00:23:53.000 He said, I don't care.

00:23:54.000 I'm just going to do new ones that don't apply to this specific one.

00:23:57.000 So, you know, seeing Andrew Cuomo do this really kind of signals that the Supreme Court is not going to be your savior, like many people expect them to be.

00:24:04.000 I think the Supreme Court is like a lens that's focusing the law for the American people to see clearly.

00:24:09.000 And it's up to us as the people to enforce what they can kind of show us.

00:24:14.000 But that's all they really do is pass through ideas.

00:24:17.000 It's meaningless.

00:24:18.000 Well, I would say this though, as critical as I might be the Supreme Court or federal judges, especially in federal courts, I would trust a federal judge.

00:24:27.000 If I had to choose some kind of like gambit, do you trust this random member of Congress with your rights?

00:24:32.000 Do you trust the president with your rights?

00:24:33.000 Trump or Biden?

00:24:34.000 Or do you trust a federal judge with your rights?

00:24:37.000 I would trust the federal judge the most.

00:24:38.000 I think you'd be better off choosing a partisan member of your tribe in a political party.

00:24:42.000 Yeah, but we're doing a Rawlsian veil of ignorance thing, though.

00:24:44.000 We're saying that you can't get to pick.

00:24:46.000 Like, I would obviously, you know, choose.

00:24:48.000 If you could choose the referee, you can't.

00:24:50.000 But if you're looking at just in terms of the system, I would still say the courts

00:24:53.000 are better equipped and more likely to to vindicate or care about individual rights.

00:24:59.000 And the flip side, too, is the January 6th.

00:25:02.000 I mean, if you're an adult and you watch that, you say that's a bad thing, you know.

00:25:06.000 But 9-11, 9-11.

00:25:10.000 We live in a childish world where every adult's gonna be like, yeah, this is bad.

00:25:13.000 You know, you need to suss out who is doing what.

00:25:16.000 But we have to, we're supposed to basically pretend, which I say we ought, we live in like the age of pretend, which is, oh my, that was a 9-11.

00:25:24.000 Holy cow event so it's this fake emotion and the Supreme Court they're sensitive to that the idea that it's 9-11

00:25:31.000 But in a way it's worse than 9-11 because the 9-11 terrorists all got pro-bono legal representation by the

00:25:37.000 most elite lawyers in the country Yeah, none of those elite lawyers are gonna do anything for

00:25:41.000 these Trump supporters these MAGA moms outside of that people who have been detained in

00:25:45.000 Guantanamo Bay will get these very high prestigious pro, you know pro bono lawyers

00:25:49.000 ACLU donating their time.

00:25:51.000 But you get Bernice from Oklahoma who's being charged with two misdemeanors for trespass, and a lot of them are, and the lawyer's like, I'm not going anywhere near that.

00:26:02.000 And what's worse about that is they're being held This is the thing where, if you're a lawyer, you're, like, screaming on the inside, because... In federal courts, a little different than state, there's something called the Federal Sentencing Guidelines, and it varies, like, mathematical.

00:26:15.000 Is it your first offense?

00:26:16.000 Was it a non-violent offense?

00:26:17.000 What did you actually do when you get your, like, time?

00:26:20.000 Most of the indictments I've read are Bernice, some MAGA grandma, you know, read some weird thing on the internet, showed up, didn't know there was a riot, because she's just following the crowd, walks in, oh, hi, everybody!

00:26:33.000 And she's just smiling and thinks nothing happened.

00:26:35.000 Well, that's trespass.

00:26:37.000 That's a day in jail, maybe.

00:26:40.000 But they're being held without bail.

00:26:42.000 Right?

00:26:42.000 So they're actually going to do more time pre-trial as opposed to the opposite because you're presumed innocent.

00:26:47.000 This is the scary thing about what we're seeing, right?

00:26:49.000 So there's some other stories we can maybe get into a little bit, like the FBI seizing congressional phone records saying that members of Congress are now suspects.

00:26:56.000 You've got Naomi Wolf, she recently went on Tucker Carlson saying totalitarianism is here, and we'll jump into those and get into those in fuller detail in just a second.

00:27:04.000 But what's scary is The Democrats will not stop.

00:27:08.000 They won't. 1.00

00:27:08.000 The Republicans are worthless. 1.00

00:27:10.000 Republican leadership is an oxymoron. 0.99

00:27:12.000 And they're basically just like, you know, Democrats, do your thing.

00:27:16.000 The Democrats are basically saying, we will use the most insane interpretation of anything that we saw.

00:27:20.000 We will use every bit of power we have.

00:27:23.000 And the Republicans would never do that.

00:27:25.000 They're too weak.

00:27:27.000 So the Democrats are going to start steamrolling people.

00:27:29.000 People who... There's some video where the cops opened the door to the Capitol and people just walked in confused.

00:27:34.000 Confused and bewildered.

00:27:35.000 Those people are now facing serious jail time.

00:27:38.000 Then you have the year of riots, where people literally burned down buildings.

00:27:41.000 What did Merrick Garland say?

00:27:42.000 Well, it's extremism because it happened at night, but it's terror because it was during the day or something like that?

00:27:47.000 I understand going after... Going after, like, the Electoral College vote count is very, very serious.

00:27:54.000 But don't you think burning down buildings and destroying cities and what the 19 plus dead directly from the riots as well as the chas where they pumped for 10 minutes hundreds of rounds into an SUV with two teenagers in it. 0.55

00:28:07.000 These people shouldn't many of them be facing jail time as well.

00:28:11.000 Well, but that's a quaint view of American equality, right?

00:28:16.000 Will Chamberlain talks about how the media, these people in DC, they're like the patrician class and we're kind of like the peasant class.

00:28:24.000 I call it the new Jim Crow, which is a little absurd given, you know, what had happened there, but, you know, it all starts a little bit early.

00:28:29.000 The idea is like, I know that I'm a second class citizen.

00:28:32.000 I just know it.

00:28:33.000 I accept it.

00:28:34.000 That's why I'm not on the internet.

00:28:35.000 Why can't I tweet out?

00:28:36.000 Because I can't.

00:28:37.000 Because I'm not fully human to them.

00:28:40.000 I fully understand it.

00:28:41.000 I might not like it, but I get it.

00:28:42.000 So when you understand that if you're perceived as conservative or right wing, you are not a human being to these people.

00:28:48.000 Then, they don't care if your building's burned down.

00:28:50.000 They care that their capital building, which is, by the way, taxpayer-funded.

00:28:53.000 As an American, I'm way more outraged that some mom can't feed her kids because her business was built down than they care that some, like, taxpayer-funded building is gonna have to be repaired. 1.00

00:29:04.000 That's all taxpayer money, anyway.

00:29:06.000 But that's a very outdated and archaic model of all of us being equal as Americans.

00:29:11.000 No, that's... I agree, and I say it all the time, like, what's the point of me doing a video where I'm like, look at this double standard?

00:29:16.000 Duh, we all know it.

00:29:17.000 These... now, I mean, granted, we're seeing this really hilarious thing with the New York Times and Slate, you know, personalities are getting fired.

00:29:24.000 They're losing that protection as well.

00:29:26.000 So I will say there is some optimism in that regard that they're eating themselves faster and faster to the point where they might just not be whatever it is they're doing.

00:29:34.000 The establishment media, the soft power, will be going away.

00:29:37.000 Well, if all you do is hypocrisy, then yeah, you're like, that's a conservative cliche.

00:29:41.000 There's that meme, here lies conservatism.

00:29:44.000 Then the headstone says something like, imagine if it were a Democrat.

00:29:48.000 But there's this other...

00:29:50.000 Lindsey something-or-another.

00:29:52.000 I realize people on Twitter don't even know their names, but he said the idea is you're putting sand in the gears.

00:29:59.000 So the idea is I know for a fact that it annoys Chris Cuomo and Jake Taper and these people.

00:30:03.000 They do get annoyed.

00:30:04.000 Now are they going to change their minds?

00:30:06.000 Are they going to be better?

00:30:07.000 Not really, but it annoys them.

00:30:08.000 And sometimes all you can do, as a second-class citizen, as somebody who's essentially without institutional power, you can just annoy these people a little bit.

00:30:17.000 And then you have, you know, an instance like Chris Pomo, where he melts down on a guy, threatens to throw a guy down the stairs, and, you know, is completely losing it.

00:30:24.000 So you know that he's bothered by it.

00:30:27.000 That's sometimes all you can do, and I think that's worth doing.

00:30:30.000 But for someone like you, or other people like Ben Shapiro, or you, Luke, or just anybody with a big platform, when that's all I see in your time, I'm like, oh my god.

00:30:38.000 Go do something, especially when people have money.

00:30:40.000 That's when I get really triggered.

00:30:42.000 Like when it's Trump campaign people, it's like, okay, you guys raised $250 million post-election to investigate whatever you're going to investigate.

00:30:50.000 Why don't you take, I mean, you know what it costs.

00:30:53.000 Take $25 million and you could hire a full army of investigative reporters.

00:30:58.000 Like, oh, well, why doesn't CNN cover this?

00:31:00.000 I don't know.

00:31:01.000 Why don't you hire 50 reporters, though?

00:31:04.000 They don't really care.

00:31:04.000 No, they don't.

00:31:05.000 Exactly.

00:31:06.000 That's a scam.

00:31:06.000 And that's where I get into it with MAGA people, because you know what it costs.

00:31:10.000 I know what it costs.

00:31:11.000 Everybody here knows what it costs.

00:31:12.000 So we're like, look, they got $250 million, dude.

00:31:15.000 You're going to give them more money? 1.00

00:31:16.000 You are an idiot. 1.00

00:31:17.000 That's what I tell them. 1.00

00:31:18.000 And people don't like to hear that, but I don't really care.

00:31:20.000 They could take a million dollars.

00:31:22.000 and hire eight, nine, ten reporters. I mean, you don't got to give them a six figures,

00:31:27.000 hire 20 and give them all 40 something thousand a year and people will do it.

00:31:30.000 Right now people have lost their jobs. You can find people to do this, but you're right,

00:31:34.000 they had $250 million. I don't think they actually really cared. More importantly,

00:31:37.000 I think Trump cared, but people around him certainly did not and weren't there to help

00:31:42.000 him. They were there to extract as much as they could from him. And well, he fell for it.

00:31:47.000 I mean, he fell for it, but moreover, the problem that I had is like the donors fell for it.

00:31:53.000 I'm always like, demand more of your leaders.

00:31:55.000 I think that's why, again, I differ from a lot of Trump people is, the idea is like, if you go to bed tonight and you wake up, you're not gonna be like, oh god, I just had Mike on my show and he's tweeting and bombs.

00:32:05.000 What?

00:32:05.000 Indigestion.

00:32:06.000 You're never gonna wake up with indigestion.

00:32:08.000 That's how you should be if you're Trump.

00:32:12.000 You should just realize, okay, I don't want my people to wake up with indigestion. 1.00

00:32:15.000 I know people like to have a lot of fun.

00:32:17.000 I know that we should keep it light.

00:32:18.000 I know they like a little bit of trolling.

00:32:20.000 But I don't want people just to wake up with the complete case of, you know, what did I really do?

00:32:25.000 And Trump would kind of do that over and over again, and that's where he became his own worst enemy.

00:32:29.000 Or even stuff like, early on I never liked, was the beefing with LeBron James.

00:32:33.000 Like, you're president now, dude.

00:32:35.000 You can beef with LeBron James in 2015.

00:32:39.000 In 2018, guess what?

00:32:40.000 You don't get to do that anymore.

00:32:41.000 Or slam Duncan on Rosie while his supporters are being kicked off the internet.

00:32:45.000 There's this famous saying that there's a meme about that says people who believe in politicians think that strippers actually like them.

00:32:51.000 They don't.

00:32:52.000 Politicians don't like you either.

00:32:53.000 And a lot of them, sadly, are being used for their personal benefit.

00:32:56.000 And a lot of it is not being done for your benefit.

00:32:59.000 Well, let's do that.

00:32:59.000 Let's use that to jump into this next story, which I pulled up the best source imaginable for this.

00:33:04.000 This is the Independent Women's Forum.

00:33:06.000 They say feminist author and former Bill Clinton advisor Naomi Wolf warns of totalitarianism because of pandemic emergency rules.

00:33:15.000 It's really interesting because Naomi Wolf voted for Joe Biden, then came out later saying if I had known he was in favor of lockdowns, I wouldn't have done it.

00:33:22.000 The dude was screaming high heavens he was in favor of lockdowns.

00:33:24.000 He was the plexiglass president.

00:33:27.000 Yeah, literally.

00:33:27.000 That was what he was named after.

00:33:29.000 So it was surprising to see this kind of tweet.

00:33:31.000 It did go viral because it did garner a lot of attention.

00:33:34.000 But, you know, there's a lot of things we could criticize them.

00:33:37.000 But this is a moment where she's finally coming out and actually speaking some bigger truths out there.

00:33:41.000 She was just on Tucker Carlson, and some of the points she's making are right on the head.

00:33:45.000 And I have to agree with her when she says that lockdowns are, as the Mexican president said, tools of totalitarians. 0.54

00:33:51.000 What I find interesting about this is One, I will always give credit where credit is due.

00:33:56.000 Calling out totalitarianism and the lockdowns and all that stuff is a good thing.

00:34:00.000 But I do have to at least have some critical view.

00:34:04.000 I mean, does she really care or is she just making money off of anti-establishment sentiment? 0.65

00:34:08.000 When it was Trump in office, Trump was bad.

00:34:10.000 And then immediately the day after they call it for Biden, she goes, oh, oh, oh, oh, Biden is bad too!

00:34:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:17.000 Like, the reason I bring this up is because, Luke, you made that point about strippers.

00:34:21.000 That, you know, the people who trust politicians are the same people who think that strippers like them.

00:34:24.000 Is Naomi Wolf just another one of these personalities who's going to try and say whatever she has to say? 1.00

00:34:28.000 I would I would contest that from my own personal experiences understanding that the anti-establishment

00:34:33.000 Dollar is not really a high dollar. It's not really valued a lot and now the the establishment dollar

00:34:39.000 Which means talking about their narratives and their talking points that pays a lot that has a lot of gigs

00:34:45.000 so I think she's actually putting a lot on the line by criticizing biden because she's one of the few that

00:34:49.000 actually does and there's Not many other people like her and I don't think I honestly

00:34:53.000 think she didn't know the um, my wife's 0.99

00:34:56.000 Parents my in-laws I guess you call them then because they're from iran cnn has actually good reputation internationally

00:35:03.000 The the biggest problem cnn isn't domestic. It's internationally people actually believe that stuff and it

00:35:08.000 really is harming the country and the country's interests So they don't know they'll come over and bring up things

00:35:13.000 and we're like, yeah, you know that this thing happened I have no idea that it happened. So I do believe people

00:35:19.000 like naomi wolf are so secluded That she didn't know.

00:35:22.000 I mean, something came out too, Robbie, so I've tweeted it out.

00:35:25.000 I think SkepticMag did the survey.

00:35:27.000 But if you ask most Biden voters, how many unarmed black men do you think are killed a year by police, they're gonna say a thousand.

00:35:34.000 Yeah, I think we actually have this.

00:35:36.000 There's a story you tweeted about that.

00:35:37.000 Zach Goldberg tweeted about it.

00:35:38.000 Interestingly, there's this graph.

00:35:40.000 I also posted on Instagram.

00:35:42.000 They asked people in 2019 what percentage of people killed by police were black.

00:35:46.000 Very liberal people said 60%. 0.92

00:35:47.000 They thought 60% of the people killed by police were black.

00:35:51.000 Conservatives said 37.

00:35:53.000 The real number, 23.

00:35:53.000 Even conservatives were overestimating.

00:35:56.000 But the crazy thing you're referencing is, in one of the graphs, if you ask a very liberal person how many black men were killed by cops in 2019, 31% of very liberals will say about 1,000.

00:36:05.000 30% will say about 100.

00:36:10.000 And then among conservatives, 46% say about 10, 40% say about 100.

00:36:17.000 I think the real number was 27.

00:36:18.000 And that's where, you know, this is probably where the mindset work comes in is a lot of persuasion or mindset is meeting people where they are.

00:36:28.000 So I know that if I'm talking to a Biden person like Naomi Wolf, I'm meeting her where she is, which she believes that literally there's a thousand unarmed black people being killed and that's why they're so Because I'd be freaking out, too.

00:36:42.000 If there were a thousand unarmed black people being killed a year in the country, I would be marching with them, too. 1.00

00:36:47.000 Right. 0.99

00:36:47.000 I would be right there. 0.99

00:36:48.000 But when you actually look at it, you're like, well, I mean, it's 19 to 25.

00:36:52.000 Twice as many white people are actually killed.

00:36:54.000 Nobody knows their names.

00:36:55.000 There was actually a bit of that in the hoax movie, was ask how many people name one white guy who was killed.

00:37:02.000 The best I can do is I think it was in San Bernardino.

00:37:04.000 A homeless guy got beat to death and you could see the pictures of his face swollen up.

00:37:08.000 But that's the closest that I can come.

00:37:10.000 to finding the name right even though numerically you we should know at least as many but we really don't so when you look at the numbers You have a different perspective on how things are going, so you have to meet people where they are, and this is what they believe.

00:37:24.000 So this could just be Naomi Wolf getting the red pill. 0.92

00:37:27.000 Basically, she's been eating up mainstream media trash, and then something happened after the 7th where she saw some news that she trusted and said, wait a minute, what?

00:37:36.000 And she finally woke up to what was really going on.

00:37:38.000 Well, she's been anti-establishment for a while. 0.84

00:37:41.000 She also said a lot of supportive things for the Second Amendment and told people to reconsider their thoughts on the left about Being able to defend yourself and bear arms.

00:37:50.000 I interviewed her before.

00:37:52.000 So there is a shifting, but I think again, we have to stop thinking between the left and the right.

00:37:57.000 We have to start thinking establishment versus anti-establishment.

00:38:00.000 And overall, I think she's been on the anti-establishment trend.

00:38:04.000 And I think she'd be someone interesting to talk to about this specific issue.

00:38:08.000 To get into her mind and understand where she came from and what changes her opinion.

00:38:12.000 You just said it's anti-establishment to support the Second Amendment.

00:38:16.000 The most established document in the United States somehow is anti-establishment.

00:38:21.000 That's true.

00:38:21.000 That's insane.

00:38:22.000 That's a real problem.

00:38:23.000 Every one of these politicians are doing everything in their power to destroy it because it constrains them.

00:38:27.000 Then it sounds like they're not in our best interests.

00:38:29.000 It's like over the past several hundred years, the people have had a giant shield, the Constitution, and every day a politician is just battering against it, trying to destroy it and justify their ability to do so.

00:38:42.000 If we don't, I guess, I don't know the exact quote, if we don't defend the Constitution, then the Constitution will no longer defend us.

00:38:51.000 It's just like multinational corporate bribes.

00:38:53.000 Yeah.

00:38:54.000 But in that regard, Naomi Wolf is absolutely correct about the totalitarianism, and I'm glad at least some people are waking up to it.

00:39:01.000 Joe Biden is going to be doing all of these things that they complained about with Trump.

00:39:07.000 You know, kids in cages?

00:39:08.000 Congratulations, that's all back.

00:39:10.000 It's actually back with a vengeance.

00:39:12.000 Now they've got more facilities.

00:39:14.000 Before, it was Donald Trump using what was it, the Homestead facility in southern Miami, and that was built under the Obama administration.

00:39:20.000 They complained about it.

00:39:21.000 And as a lawyer, too, not to interrupt, just to chime in, under the law they actually have

00:39:25.000 to.

00:39:26.000 That was something left out of the reporting.

00:39:27.000 There was something called the Flores decision, which is that you can't keep kids and adults

00:39:31.000 together in the same facility.

00:39:33.000 So the whole thing, as you said, started with Obama because of this Ninth Circuit ruling

00:39:37.000 carried under Trump, and Biden's doing it, but it's like they're doing it.

00:39:42.000 So Trump inherits the Homestead facility.

00:39:44.000 And the left is screaming and complaining.

00:39:46.000 He's got kids in cages.

00:39:47.000 And they kept accidentally posting photos of Obama-era stuff.

00:39:51.000 But Joe Biden just opened a new one, didn't he?

00:39:54.000 They have these new mobile units with bars on the windows.

00:39:58.000 They look like an air-conditioning overflow facility.

00:40:01.000 Migrant Youth Overflow Facility.

00:40:04.000 Now, here's a funny thing.

00:40:05.000 I'm going to defend Joe Biden on this one.

00:40:07.000 When Donald Trump, under his administration, you had these kids being separated from the adults.

00:40:13.000 We don't know who their parents are.

00:40:15.000 Right.

00:40:15.000 So do you really want these kids to potentially be with strangers?

00:40:18.000 Because strangers do that.

00:40:20.000 Sometimes it's horrifying.

00:40:22.000 We want to make sure families are not separated.

00:40:24.000 But what if you have some dude who can't prove who his kid is and the kid says, that's not my dad.

00:40:28.000 So they separate the kids and then the left gets mad.

00:40:31.000 Joe Biden is doing the same thing.

00:40:33.000 The left is complaining about Joe Biden doing this now, and I'm going to say the same thing.

00:40:36.000 We can't just assume because some guy said, that's my kid.

00:40:40.000 That's true.

00:40:41.000 And we got to be careful about trafficking.

00:40:42.000 So what do we do?

00:40:43.000 Yeah.

00:40:43.000 Being in Mexico many times, you see all these wanted posters and all these missing children posters all over the public streets.

00:40:52.000 And there's an epidemic of missing children in Mexico.

00:40:54.000 That's a lot higher than a lot of people even understand.

00:40:57.000 And covering the border crisis, specifically in Tijuana, there's been many stories of children being stolen so they could use it as a way to get across the border and to get sympathy.

00:41:07.000 And there's this fake news being spread around that if you come across the border with a child that you're going to be allowed in, allowed through, without any problems, without any questions, as long as you have a child.

00:41:17.000 There's stories like this.

00:41:18.000 It doesn't always 100% of the time happen, but it does happen and it does need to be addressed.

00:41:25.000 And sadly, the child trafficking and kidnapping in Mexico deserves to be a lot of a bigger story than it actually is.

00:41:32.000 I guess the main issue with everything we've been talking about is people... Look, you said it was establishment versus anti-establishment?

00:41:40.000 I don't even think that's true.

00:41:41.000 I think it's people who only watch mainstream media versus people who actually think critically.

00:41:46.000 Zombies.

00:41:47.000 You have to look deep, though.

00:41:48.000 Again, I have a lot of compassion for people.

00:41:52.000 Imagine if you...

00:41:55.000 Don't go into the weeds and look into everything yourself.

00:41:58.000 It's like a full-time job, practically.

00:42:00.000 That's why they attack YouTube and everything else.

00:42:03.000 The idea that you're a working mom or a working dad and you come home after a long shift and you got three hours and you hope to see your kids before they go to bed.

00:42:12.000 And you're going to say, oh, I wonder what really is going on with these overflow facilities.

00:42:15.000 Oh, there was actually a ruling called the Flores decision.

00:42:17.000 You can't have unaccompanied minors because human trafficking.

00:42:20.000 And there was a report, actually, to your point, Luke, there was actually a report that showed that hundreds of children had been human trafficked and had been let go back to their traffickers.

00:42:28.000 So this is all not conspiracy.

00:42:30.000 It's all true.

00:42:32.000 But you're just trying to get by, man.

00:42:33.000 You're just trying to live.

00:42:35.000 And that's why I I think that's because I grew up very poor.

00:42:38.000 I think that's why I loathe the media in a way that I take it personally, which is people are just trying to work, man.

00:42:43.000 People are just trying to get by.

00:42:45.000 People are trying to live the best life that they can and be moral and be compassionate and you're lying to them.

00:42:50.000 You're creating hysteria.

00:42:52.000 You're making people think that if you're a black guy and you leave your house, you might be hunted down by the police that day because thousands of people are being killed every day. 0.97

00:43:00.000 You're creating Horrible, horrible mental state for people. 0.98

00:43:04.000 And I resent that.

00:43:05.000 Trauma, fear, pain.

00:43:07.000 And once you put that in someone's mindset, once you attract them, once you make them think that they're a victim, I mean, they're going to start acting like it.

00:43:14.000 And your mindset is critically important.

00:43:17.000 That's why, you know, you wrote your book this way.

00:43:19.000 But another thing that kind of gave me hope recently, and I started my video today with this, it was a clip from the Australian Open.

00:43:25.000 And it's a clip of a lady talking about how great the vaccine is, and we're all going to go back to normal because of the vaccine, and the crowd erupted.

00:43:33.000 Boo! 0.83

00:43:34.000 Really?

00:43:34.000 Huge boos at the Australian Open, and then she said, we want to thank our government.

00:43:38.000 Bigger boos, bigger. 0.90

00:43:40.000 I tweeted the video also.

00:43:42.000 Luke, we are changing if you want to pull it up, but the video is eye-opening and mind-boggling to see so many people during the Australian Open just absolutely Boo!

00:43:50.000 As loud as they can, this person trying to thank the government and the vaccine for bringing life back to normal.

00:43:56.000 And it was something that literally awestruck me and made me really consider, like, hey, maybe people are far more awake than we understand.

00:44:03.000 I don't know if you could play the full clip because of copyrights.

00:44:08.000 Oh yeah, maybe not.

00:44:09.000 You should be careful with that.

00:44:11.000 But when you play the video, I mean, the boos are so loud, there's no even questioning it.

00:44:17.000 I think you can play the first 15 seconds.

00:44:18.000 It's been a time of deep loss and extraordinary sacrifice for everyone.

00:44:22.000 And with vaccinations on the way, rolling out in many countries around the world, it's now a time for optimism and hope for the future.

00:44:33.000 Yeah.

00:44:34.000 Wow.

00:44:35.000 It was even bigger boos when she was like, we want to thank the government.

00:44:38.000 They even went crazier.

00:44:39.000 But don't play the full clip because, you know, you've got to be careful.

00:44:42.000 But seeing that clip gave me chills because it's like, wait, wait, people are far more awake.

00:44:47.000 People are far more aware than we give them credit to.

00:44:49.000 And we're seeing a perception of reality that's catered to us by algorithms, by big tech billionaires.

00:44:54.000 And that's another perspective we need to entertain.

00:44:56.000 You know who I think the most dangerous man right now in the country is?

00:45:00.000 Well, okay, that's hyperbolic.

00:45:01.000 I shouldn't say that.

00:45:02.000 But you know what?

00:45:03.000 You want to know who I think is one of the most dangerous people in the country?

00:45:06.000 Dr. Fauci.

00:45:07.000 You know why?

00:45:09.000 But let me tell you exactly why.

00:45:11.000 He is going out saying that even if you get the vaccine, nothing will change.

00:45:16.000 You still have to social distance.

00:45:17.000 You still have to mask.

00:45:18.000 You still can't reopen your business.

00:45:21.000 The people that are saying That the vaccine will not do anything for us are telling people not to get it.

00:45:28.000 And that's Fauci doing that.

00:45:30.000 So I talk to people and I ask my friends, are you gonna get the vaccine?

00:45:33.000 They're like, why?

00:45:34.000 What's the point?

00:45:35.000 And I'm like, what do you mean?

00:45:35.000 What's the point?

00:45:36.000 So who cares?

00:45:37.000 Fauci said nothing's going back to normal.

00:45:39.000 And I'm like, why is this guy saying these things?

00:45:42.000 He's making people not want to go and actually take care of themselves.

00:45:46.000 Well, he was telling people, too, in March 2020, nobody believes me, and then I say, here's the article.

00:45:50.000 Oh, you can go on a cruise ship.

00:45:52.000 Everything's fine. 1.00

00:45:53.000 So if you look at anything that he said, the guy's kind of an idiot. 1.00

00:45:55.000 I think Jordan Schachtel or whatever. 1.00

00:45:56.000 I'm really bad with names, as you'll learn.

00:46:00.000 Actually, people thought it was a bit where I'd mispronounce names to be like Alpha.

00:46:03.000 No, I just really don't know names.

00:46:05.000 I just really am that bad.

00:46:06.000 Same.

00:46:07.000 And Fauci has just fallen upward his entire government career.

00:46:11.000 He's actually not an impressive person.

00:46:12.000 When you watch him talk more than one time, beyond that, all he can do is talk in buzzwords.

00:46:17.000 Oh, you know, the world's not going to turn to normal.

00:46:19.000 Talk about math.

00:46:20.000 Talk about the numbers.

00:46:21.000 Talk about the models you gave.

00:46:22.000 He's not going to do it.

00:46:23.000 And like you said, he unintentionally presents a case against vaccinations because you're like, ah, do I really want to do this?

00:46:31.000 I was on the line.

00:46:32.000 Nothing's going to change anyway.

00:46:33.000 I'm going to keep doing it.

00:46:35.000 That's government, though.

00:46:35.000 I mean, the lesson of Corona, honestly, man, was, you know, you watch those movies, Independence Day, the world rallies together, competent people rise up.

00:46:46.000 You have a kind of a solution to things. 1.00

00:46:48.000 Our technocrats are just idiots. 1.00

00:46:51.000 They're just not even competent at being technocrats. 1.00

00:46:53.000 And Fauci's a great example.

00:46:55.000 That's who we'd be ruled by.

00:46:57.000 I'd rather be ruled by Biden, to be honest, than Fauci, if I had to choose.

00:47:01.000 Yeah.

00:47:01.000 Well, he keeps contradicting himself.

00:47:03.000 Even recently with the mask thing, he said, there's no evidence that you should wear two masks.

00:47:07.000 Now he says you should wear two masks.

00:47:09.000 Hold on.

00:47:09.000 The first thing he said was, it's just common sense that two masks would be better.

00:47:13.000 Yeah.

00:47:13.000 Then he came out later and said, well, there's nothing saying that two masks would be better.

00:47:16.000 Then he came out again saying two masks are better, and then the CDC issued a guideline saying wear two masks.

00:47:20.000 Yeah, he also said that the vaccines will be available for everyone by April.

00:47:24.000 He now changed that to June.

00:47:26.000 He was telling everyone not to wear masks.

00:47:27.000 He was talking about airborne transmissions.

00:47:30.000 He was talking about so many things that he was absolutely wrong on, and yet he's still being played by Brad Pitt.

00:47:36.000 He's still being portrayed as some kind of religious god figure to some people. 0.85

00:47:39.000 I mean, the worship of this man is absolutely sickening.

00:47:43.000 They have to, though, which is, to your point earlier, The propaganda wouldn't be necessary if they were winning.

00:47:50.000 It's just so unbelievable. 1.00

00:47:52.000 These people are so dumb. 1.00

00:47:53.000 Think about how crazy it is that Fauci literally came out and said... Fauci said this. 1.00

00:47:59.000 Don't wear a mask.

00:48:00.000 He said, no, you don't need a mask.

00:48:01.000 You don't need to go do that.

00:48:02.000 And then he came out later saying, oh, you gotta wear a mask.

00:48:04.000 Then he came out saying, wear two, then don't wear two, then wear two.

00:48:07.000 Now the CDC says wear two.

00:48:09.000 Wouldn't any regular person, like you described, Mike, who just wants to go home, spend some time with their kids, eventually be like, I can't take it anymore.

00:48:18.000 You can't tell me what is going on or why, and you keep changing everything.

00:48:22.000 At a certain point, you'd be like, there's no way you expect me to do both.

00:48:26.000 Over 30 people are.

00:48:27.000 So that's the divide I notice, is there's an outdoor gym.

00:48:31.000 Because Orange County is pretty much life as normal where I live.

00:48:34.000 Because the sheriff's like, we're not gonna ticket people and arrest people for, you know, Governor Newsom.

00:48:38.000 Sorry, not gonna do it.

00:48:39.000 So we have an outdoor gym.

00:48:41.000 And the boomers rarely wear their masks, except you have to when you check in and you check out. 1.00

00:48:46.000 The under 30 people, in between their little sets, they're wearing their masks.

00:48:49.000 So the majority of the people, especially if you're not even red-blue, but just the majority of the people are done with it.

00:48:55.000 Majority of the people are, what do I gotta do?

00:48:58.000 Okay, do I gotta wear a mask to check in?

00:48:59.000 I'm gonna check in.

00:49:00.000 But they don't actually respect fallacy.

00:49:02.000 But you go to LA, you go to these deep blue areas, 30-year-old people, they're actually enforcing Imagine being a 30-year-old man, and you're yelling at someone to wear a mask. 0.99

00:49:15.000 Or you're wearing a mask, and then you lift your mask up, take a bite of a cheeseburger, and then pull the mask down while you chew, and you're getting food bits all over your mask like some kind of moron. 0.97

00:49:24.000 That's insane to me that they're doing that. 0.99

00:49:25.000 You see evidence that COVID exists in ice cream and just let it go right past you because of your cognitive dissonance.

00:49:31.000 Like, it's in the food supply.

00:49:33.000 Get over it.

00:49:34.000 My point about Fauci is that I don't expect the average person to do all the research that I do every day.

00:49:41.000 They're not researchers.

00:49:42.000 They're plumbers.

00:49:43.000 They're custodians, or carpenters, or computer technicians, or managers, or car salesmen, whatever.

00:49:49.000 I work all day reading this stuff, so I know.

00:49:51.000 And then many people come to this show to try and get a critical assessment because that's not their job.

00:49:56.000 I wouldn't think I could go on the internet and learn how to be a plumber.

00:49:59.000 I can try and do a tutorial.

00:50:00.000 I'm gonna hire a plumber, to be honest.

00:50:01.000 I need the expert to do it.

00:50:02.000 So what I'm saying is, there are people who could, you could turn the TV on, and you have Anderson Cooper sitting there with his glasses, and he's like, Dr. Fauci, you say don't wear a mask, and Fauci goes, don't wear a mask, don't wear a mask, and it's like, no, no, no, no, no, that was crazy.

00:50:15.000 You need to.

00:50:16.000 Then he comes out later saying to wear a mask.

00:50:19.000 Then he comes out saying to, then don't wear to, then wear to, then the CDC says wear to.

00:50:23.000 Wouldn't a regular person at some point just be like, I don't even know what I'm supposed to do anymore because they keep changing what I'm supposed to do?

00:50:29.000 I think that's where they are though.

00:50:30.000 I guess that's what I've observed is that that's where the average kind of regular person is.

00:50:36.000 And it's only the people who live in these information silos, the woke kids in Brooklyn.

00:50:42.000 Because again, just as a meta point is, I remember when you're a 30 year old man, if you'd have told me to wear a mask, and I was probably more liberal when I was 30, I would say, what are you doing?

00:50:53.000 Like, do I have to do it?

00:50:54.000 I guess I will because you got to do what you got to do.

00:50:56.000 Me being a man and yelling at another man when you're walking outside, walking your dog, you need to wear a mask, is another bigger problem.

00:51:05.000 But if you look at just public sentiment, public sentiment is where you is.

00:51:10.000 People are kind of tired of it.

00:51:11.000 Have you seen that video where there's a woman, she's in a store, and there's a guy basically harassing her?

00:51:16.000 And it reveals everything when he goes, does anybody else think it's messed up that she doesn't have to wear a mask but we do?

00:51:24.000 Now you know what the guy was really mad about.

00:51:26.000 He's mad that they got their boot on his neck, and he can't do anything about it, so he harasses some five foot tall woman who's not wearing a mask. 0.98

00:51:34.000 Yeah, crabs in a bucket. 1.00

00:51:36.000 Crabs in a bucket mindset.

00:51:37.000 They don't want to do it, but everybody has to do it.

00:51:40.000 They're gonna do it.

00:51:41.000 But yeah, sentiment's changed, man.

00:51:44.000 People are mad.

00:51:45.000 That's why they're doing more and more of suppressing information.

00:51:48.000 That's why people like the New York Times, unfettered conversations are happening.

00:51:52.000 This is bad.

00:51:53.000 You shouldn't have to scold people.

00:51:55.000 If your message is credible, because most people can kind of observe the world.

00:51:59.000 Like, even if you work, and you work hard, and people tell you, okay, man-made global warming is caused by carbon emissions, and you're like, okay.

00:52:05.000 But wait, but you're flying a private jet.

00:52:07.000 You have yachts.

00:52:08.000 Buying beachfront property.

00:52:09.000 You're buying beachfront property, but wait a minute, you're going to be underwater here in Martha's Vineyard, and you just spent $15 million on your home.

00:52:14.000 So there's such a disconnect between the messaging from the ruling elite, and how they actually live their lives, that more and more people are frustrated.

00:52:22.000 Do you think these regular people who are kind of just like getting shocked out of the system because the media is full of it, do you think they're going to reject all this wokeness?

00:52:29.000 Because it kind of feels like it's just sweeping over everything, the critical theory and all that stuff.

00:52:34.000 Well that's why they're again trying to push it in an educational thing.

00:52:37.000 That's why the media is pushing it so hard and having their little purges because You know, because we read media, even though we read it critically, we're gaslit.

00:52:46.000 We're still victims.

00:52:47.000 Because we still think this is overrepresented, because that's what we look at all day, even to say, like, this is wrong.

00:52:53.000 We're still, like, gaslit.

00:52:54.000 So, for example, if you read the internet, I'm a pretty, like, hated guy, right?

00:52:58.000 Oh yeah.

00:52:59.000 I get recognized almost every day, even in these little smaller areas, and it's always positive.

00:53:04.000 Even if it's negative, a guy just kind of, like, laughs.

00:53:07.000 Nobody actually really thinks I'm a scary person.

00:53:10.000 People would be like, oh, Cernovich, ugh.

00:53:12.000 You know, kind of like one of those things.

00:53:14.000 But on the internet, I'm like a very scary guy.

00:53:16.000 But that's gaslighting.

00:53:17.000 That's not how people actually think.

00:53:19.000 In microcosm, that's the same thing with the macrocosm.

00:53:22.000 People are like, this is a lie.

00:53:23.000 One of my favorite things is how if you, right now, state... You've tweeted before you're in favor of universal health care, right?

00:53:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:30.000 Pretty, you know... People are like, oh, Andrew Yang, universal income.

00:53:34.000 I'm like, well, you can read a political article about me in 2017 where I was talking about universal basic income and my problem with that more was like the incentives it creates versus the idea That I think it's good to give poor people money, but that's far right. 0.98

00:53:48.000 You can come out and publicly state ten left-wing positions, and then criticize critical race theory, and what will happen is on Wikipedia, people will say, hey, Mike Cernovich has a whole bunch of left-wing populist positions, and they'll say, well, he's not a good source, you can't use him as a reference, is there a credible article?

00:54:08.000 And then you will tweet, critical race theory is a bad thing.

00:54:10.000 And they will use it and say, well he said it, so it's what he believes, we better include it, he's a far-right, alt-right, whatever.

00:54:17.000 What you say only matters if it's bad for you, if you're saying things against the cathedral.

00:54:22.000 Well yeah, what the cathedral does though is, that again though is part of the gaslighting.

00:54:26.000 So the gaslighting is that, if you're me and you believed the internet because you read the news, even though you know the news is a lie, you'd be like, oh man, people don't really like me.

00:54:35.000 And then you're like, where are these people?

00:54:37.000 You know, literally, where are these people?

00:54:38.000 I've walked down Manhattan.

00:54:39.000 Never had... I've been in the most populous, like, lefty areas.

00:54:42.000 And I get the El Chapo kind of irony, bro. 0.99

00:54:45.000 Like, who you throwing a bitch? 1.00

00:54:46.000 Or something like that. 0.99

00:54:47.000 Nobody's like, oh my god, that's a scary person.

00:54:49.000 Because the idea when they carcature in the media, which is so funny, is if I were a scary person, you would not write about me, right?

00:54:57.000 You don't see these people, these woke boys in Brooklyn, writing about actually scary people, like prison gangs.

00:55:03.000 They're not writing about Charlie Hebdo.

00:55:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:55:05.000 They're not writing about Charlie Hebdo.

00:55:06.000 They're not even writing about, like, even these people who are like, oh yeah, there's all these, you know, racists everywhere.

00:55:11.000 Then go write about the Aryan Brotherhood. 0.88

00:55:13.000 Go knock on the door.

00:55:14.000 MS-13.

00:55:15.000 Yeah, go write about MS-13.

00:55:17.000 So if they were actually afraid, then they wouldn't even write about it.

00:55:21.000 So that, again, translates to everything, which is...

00:55:24.000 the media they they lie so much that even when you're criticizing them you

00:55:28.000 still have a form of a victimization of your mind because you're like oh yeah

00:55:32.000 this is predominant opinion

00:55:34.000 no this is that this is a new prominent left wing of the critical race theory

00:55:37.000 is not a prominent left wing I went to Portland I was actually kinda worried when I went to Portland

00:55:40.000 because I've been to Berkeley. Berkeley where Berkeley was kind of creepy, but I walked around with Berkeley with no problems at all.

00:55:46.000 Although someone did try starting a fight with me at a skate park, which was crazy, and then some other didn't intervene.

00:55:50.000 But I went to Portland.

00:55:51.000 Portland is like Antifa Central.

00:55:53.000 And I was worried.

00:55:54.000 I was like, I'm gonna get some- someone's gonna yell at me.

00:55:57.000 And guess what happened?

00:55:58.000 So this guy starts walking up to me, and I'm like, oh man.

00:56:00.000 Oh, here we go.

00:56:01.000 And he walks up and he goes, oh, Tim Pool, nice to meet you, man.

00:56:03.000 And shakes my hand and he's like, big fan.

00:56:05.000 I love what you do.

00:56:06.000 And I was like, I appreciate it.

00:56:07.000 And I was like, is that like, you think a lot of people in Portland feel that way?

00:56:09.000 He's like, oh yeah, definitely.

00:56:10.000 A bunch of my friends watch your stuff.

00:56:12.000 And I was like, oh, that's really neat.

00:56:13.000 I go to a restaurant.

00:56:14.000 I'm sitting at the bar.

00:56:15.000 And I order like a spicy chicken and bacon.

00:56:17.000 I'm like, oh, I'm excited.

00:56:18.000 And the guy brings my sandwich out.

00:56:19.000 It looks amazing.

00:56:20.000 And he goes, hey, aren't you Tim Pool?

00:56:21.000 And I went, oh, I can't eat this now, this guy.

00:56:23.000 And then he was like, I'll be right back.

00:56:25.000 And I was like, oh, dude, what?

00:56:26.000 And he comes out and he gives me a free bottle of hot sauce.

00:56:27.000 He's like, dude, I love your stuff, man, it's fantastic.

00:56:29.000 And I was like, oh, wow, thank you.

00:56:31.000 And I'm like, all of these people online who say all these nasty things, where are they?

00:56:35.000 You know what it is?

00:56:36.000 It's really simple, actually.

00:56:37.000 What the internet has done, let's say every city in the country,

00:56:41.000 let's say there's 100 cities, and 60% of the people in these cities

00:56:47.000 are regular middle-of-the-road people, and then 30% are more politically active,

00:56:52.000 liberal or conservative, but still fairly normal.

00:56:54.000 And then you have one person who's crazy extremist.

00:56:58.000 That one person goes online and finds the one person in every other city and creates a network of a hundred people to harass you.

00:57:04.000 You then start feeling like there's a large group coming after you, but when you go out these places, most people are like, oh yeah, I heard about you.

00:57:09.000 Yeah, cool.

00:57:10.000 How's it going?

00:57:11.000 And it's just totally normal.

00:57:12.000 Do me a favor, guys.

00:57:13.000 Tweet out some love to Tim and Mike and Luke.

00:57:15.000 I don't care.

00:57:16.000 I think the negativity gets shouted out because you feel it, you're angry, it's easy, you're motivated.

00:57:23.000 But the love, it's important that you send that too.

00:57:26.000 I've been on ayahuasca too many times.

00:57:31.000 I've been confronted with all of the things, known and unknown, by God telling me this is what you need to work on.

00:57:38.000 So then when people on the internet are nipping at me, it doesn't...

00:57:42.000 On an emotional level, it just doesn't have any kind of impact.

00:57:46.000 And I gotta say something too, like, there's no need to do that.

00:57:48.000 I don't check my mentions, maybe like once or twice periodically, if I tweet something and it shows me the tweet and the thing, you know, messages come in.

00:57:54.000 But I, why do I care about what like, you know, some anime cat girl on Twitter thinks about what I should do with my business?

00:58:01.000 Like this person with 14 followers who says dumb things, I'm like, you're doing great for yourself.

00:58:05.000 I think I'll take my own advice on this one. 0.95

00:58:07.000 Well, what it does though is, Yeah, I guess to your point, it does gaslight you a little bit.

00:58:13.000 Oh man, there's a lot of people on the internet being mean to me.

00:58:17.000 I'm really sad.

00:58:18.000 But it's more like, wow, I'm a really hated guy.

00:58:21.000 You start to believe it, right?

00:58:22.000 Because that's all you see.

00:58:23.000 Like, wow man, people really do hate me.

00:58:25.000 That's true.

00:58:26.000 Because I'll be a shut-in where I hardly ever leave my house.

00:58:28.000 And then leave my house, people are like, Oh man, love your stuff, blah blah blah.

00:58:31.000 So it does create this kind of construct where you, because you only hear one messaging,

00:58:37.000 even though emotionally it doesn't regulate or mess with you.

00:58:40.000 That's true though, there was a really funny moment where you retweeted something from me.

00:58:44.000 I tweeted something and it was not, I can't remember what it was, but it wasn't like super pro-Trump

00:58:49.000 or anti-Trump.

00:58:49.000 It was a political thing that was like cultural and I thought it was more like a libertarian issue.

00:58:54.000 It was something about freedom of free speech.

00:58:55.000 You retweeted it and then some lefty started responding saying like, Look at all the people who are responding to you, all of these, you know, far right, whatever.

00:59:04.000 And I was like, I said something like, uh, people retweet tweets.

00:59:09.000 Like I don't, people follow whatever they want to follow.

00:59:12.000 And they said, if you really did believe in freedom, then you would have left-wing people coming in here and commenting.

00:59:17.000 And then all of a sudden there were like 50 to a hundred responses from people who follow me saying, Oh yeah, I'm a liberal.

00:59:23.000 I follow Tim.

00:59:23.000 We just don't tweet.

00:59:24.000 We like mind our own business.

00:59:26.000 Regular people aren't trying to scream at you on the internet.

00:59:30.000 And so, what do you see online? 0.94

00:59:32.000 The lunatics. 0.89

00:59:33.000 The ones who are screaming the loudest. 0.98

00:59:34.000 And I gotta be honest, that includes each and every one of us in this room.

00:59:38.000 We are more likely to be egocentric or narcissistic than the average person.

00:59:44.000 That's a fact.

00:59:44.000 That's a good point that you're making here and I was going to add that to Ian.

00:59:47.000 Also, just like negative comments hurt you, too many good comments hurt you as well because they build up your ego and this perception and this identity that you're perfect and you have no imperfections and that everything you do, your farts smell like roses no matter what you eat, no matter how many Taco Bells you go to, it doesn't matter.

01:00:04.000 But I think for the most part, the internet is a negative place.

01:00:07.000 Of course.

01:00:08.000 You're not getting a lot of people saying like, dude, I really love you, you're so fantastic.

01:00:10.000 You get them sometimes.

01:00:12.000 What's the angry hate?

01:00:13.000 It's the same thing though where if you go through life and you get like good service or something you rarely write like a thank-you card to the person because one of the exercises I did early on when I was an angry guy maybe I'm 19 you know you do these at-home DVD or CDs that's how you had to do it and one exercise was like a gratitude exercise so if you went to the airplane and like somebody was really nice to you you would write a letter to the manager but it was like a good letter.

01:00:39.000 Say one good thing about Antifa.

01:00:42.000 Oh, they have a lot of money.

01:00:44.000 I don't know if that's a compliment.

01:00:48.000 I will say, I'll say this actually, there was a guy, he actually went to jail, went to prison.

01:00:53.000 He attacked someone outside of one of my events in New York, and he apologized to the guy he attacked.

01:00:59.000 He still felt morally justified in what he did, and he said he didn't regret it, but it was more like, oh, I didn't realize I was hitting a civilian, you know, kind of thing.

01:01:08.000 But when I read his stuff, he wrote with a great level of sensitivity and a great level of...

01:01:15.000 Empathy.

01:01:15.000 But he just believes things about the world that aren't true.

01:01:19.000 And that's, again, where they read things on the internet, they don't actually talk.

01:01:22.000 I'm like, hey dude, you can give me a call, bro.

01:01:24.000 Like, you can give me a call and you can say, hey Mike, do you believe these things before you want to riot?

01:01:28.000 And I'll honestly tell you what I believe or what I don't believe.

01:01:31.000 So, some of them do have above average amount of literacy, above average amount of compassion, above average amount of cultural awareness, midwits.

01:01:42.000 But, you know, the thug element, you know, because if you're like white and you want to be in a gang, you join Antifa because you can kind of get away with it, right? 0.80

01:01:50.000 It's like a life hack.

01:01:51.000 Do you want to be violent?

01:01:52.000 You can join the Hells Angels, which you're actually around really tough guys and that maybe you're not tough enough to do that.

01:01:58.000 Or you can join Antifa and you have a license to beat people up and you're going to even be defended by Merrick Garland.

01:02:05.000 There you go.

01:02:05.000 Celebrities will endorse you and support you.

01:02:08.000 I'm partly kidding with the Antifa thing, but I've said it a couple of times because I really don't like what these people have done.

01:02:14.000 A lot of them, the violence.

01:02:15.000 But I also think it's really dangerous if we only ever go down the path of demonization.

01:02:19.000 We have to recognize these people, you know, the saying goes that the left, the right thinks the left is misguided, but the left thinks the right is evil.

01:02:27.000 And we need to make sure that there's always, I think there's always a path to redemption.

01:02:31.000 Well, I think, typically, there's a tendency towards a path to redemption.

01:02:35.000 Some people are just like, it's too far gone, and you're like, You know, I don't know what we can do for this person.

01:02:40.000 But I look at a lot of these activists, and I... I had a conversation with an Antifa guy in Berkeley.

01:02:44.000 He was screaming at, like, some right-wing dude.

01:02:48.000 And I was filming.

01:02:49.000 And then once things started to calm down, I asked him, you know, tell me what was going on, what were you saying?

01:02:53.000 He started explaining.

01:02:54.000 He's like, well, so this guy's here, and I'm saying this.

01:02:56.000 And then we started walking back down towards the park, where they were doing that rally. 0.82

01:03:00.000 And he was like, these people are all fascists, man, you gotta understand.

01:03:02.000 And I said, you think these people are all fascists? 0.75

01:03:05.000 And he's like, yes, I do.

01:03:06.000 And I said, do you think these people love the Second Amendment?

01:03:09.000 He's like, well, yeah, of course.

01:03:11.000 I was like, why do you think they love the Second Amendment?

01:03:13.000 They're always complaining about the government trying to take over.

01:03:16.000 And I was like, well, that sounds like they're scared of fascism.

01:03:19.000 And he was like, wait, what?

01:03:22.000 I mean, no, they're fascist.

01:03:24.000 And I was like, bro, I think they're as scared of fascism as you are.

01:03:27.000 And he was like, oh.

01:03:29.000 I'm like, that's that moment.

01:03:30.000 No one ever told him that.

01:03:32.000 So maybe, maybe there's a chance to like, you know, these people aren't getting real news.

01:03:35.000 Like Naomi Wolf, right?

01:03:37.000 She's getting this bad information.

01:03:38.000 And then she goes on Tucker and she's like, I can't believe how wrong I was.

01:03:40.000 And I'm like, thank you very much.

01:03:42.000 Welcome to the fight.

01:03:42.000 That's the, that's the right thing to do.

01:03:44.000 Or they could go to Boeing.

01:03:45.000 They could go to Boeing's house.

01:03:46.000 There's just so many, you could go to the Raytheon CEO house.

01:03:49.000 They wouldn't even know they're... Yeah, right.

01:03:51.000 That, to me, is why all of this stuff is sort of empty, is at least when they were doing the WTO protests in Seattle, okay, you're actually fighting the system.

01:03:59.000 You're actually fighting the establishment.

01:04:01.000 I don't agree with your tactics.

01:04:02.000 I don't agree with writing.

01:04:04.000 But hey, I can actually see that.

01:04:05.000 But going to disrupt Andy Ngo's book sale, Paul Books, is to me just, okay, you're not fighting the system, bro.

01:04:13.000 Right, right, right.

01:04:14.000 He's just like, dude, he's the child of immigrants who wrote a book.

01:04:17.000 He's one guy.

01:04:18.000 He has no institutional power.

01:04:20.000 Well, let's do this.

01:04:20.000 Let's talk about the gaslighting.

01:04:21.000 Because we did briefly mention this, but I want to dive deeper into this story.

01:04:25.000 Because a lot of these Antifa people are motivated by fake news.

01:04:29.000 So, earlier on, we were talking about this.

01:04:31.000 We have this poll.

01:04:32.000 This is from Zach Goldberg.

01:04:33.000 He says, A recent nationally representative survey commissioned by SkepticMag asked respondents to estimate the number of unarmed blacks killed by police in 2019.

01:04:42.000 Overall, 44% of liberals guessed 1,000 or more as compared to 20% of conservatives.

01:04:48.000 This calculation is based on the crosstabs shared with me by the researcher.

01:04:52.000 This is crazy, man.

01:04:53.000 I watched a PragerU video.

01:04:56.000 And it was Wilwit.

01:04:57.000 I think it was Wilwit.

01:04:58.000 And he's at the Venice Skate Park in California, and there's three black dudes, and he asks them, how many black people do you think were killed by cops in 2019?

01:05:05.000 And one guy goes, thousands, man, thousands.

01:05:08.000 And he was like, you think thousands?

01:05:09.000 The other guy's like, yeah, probably thousands, maybe more.

01:05:12.000 And then he was like, 19.

01:05:14.000 Depending on which statistic you use.

01:05:16.000 So this SkepticMag used the higher number of 27 because they take into account more circumstances.

01:05:22.000 I think the official number of unarmed black men shot and killed is like 13.

01:05:28.000 But then when you take into consideration like maybe like chokeholds and stuff like that it goes up to about 27.

01:05:33.000 Each and every one of those unarmed individuals who died is a nightmarish tragedy.

01:05:40.000 I don't even believe the death penalty, man.

01:05:42.000 I really don't.

01:05:43.000 I think if you've subdued someone, then we have to deal with, like, how... I don't have all the answers.

01:05:48.000 I'll just tell you this. 0.98

01:05:49.000 I think if we got someone locked in a box, and you're like, now we're gonna kill you, I think that's insane. 0.52

01:05:52.000 They're no longer a threat.

01:05:53.000 You got them locked in this prison.

01:05:56.000 So I'm opposed to that.

01:05:57.000 So if a cop comes out, and gets into a situation, and someone dies, that's a nightmare scenario.

01:06:02.000 Because we have a constitution, we have a Bill of Rights.

01:06:05.000 We're innocent until proven guilty.

01:06:07.000 But I also recognize that these cops, Aren't going out hunting people down.

01:06:11.000 Well, that's the narrative you're getting from the media.

01:06:13.000 These young people then believe it.

01:06:14.000 The craziest thing about the story, this other chart we brought up, check this out.

01:06:18.000 When they asked conservatives, what percentage of people killed by police were black, the conservatives said 37.8%.

01:06:23.000 That's, the number is actually 23%, 23.4%. 0.70

01:06:24.000 23.4% of the people who were killed by cops in 2019 were black.

01:06:26.000 The number is actually 23%, 23.4%. 0.62

01:06:30.000 23.4% of the people who were killed by cops in 2019 were black.

01:06:34.000 Even conservatives overestimate the total total number by about 50%.

01:06:38.000 So whatever is going on with the media that even conservatives are skeptical of,

01:06:43.000 they're still buying into these narratives.

01:06:46.000 Well, it's visual.

01:06:47.000 It's because of visual persuasion.

01:06:48.000 A very non-political way that that survey was done is, if you pulled the American public and you said, what percentage of the population do you think is white, Hispanic, black?

01:06:58.000 Most people would say they think one in four people in America are black.

01:07:01.000 And if you ask them what percentage of the population is gay, you get something from like 5% to 25%.

01:07:07.000 And the answer is that, well, if you're doing a billboard and you have four people, you can't put four white people because that'd be racist.

01:07:14.000 So you have to put, you know, okay, we need a woman here, we need a black here, we need a gay person here, you know, we have all the representation.

01:07:20.000 And then people see that over and over and over and over again.

01:07:23.000 So that misunderstanding is the same thing with combat deaths.

01:07:26.000 If you say, hey, what percentage of combat fatalities do you think are like female versus male?

01:07:31.000 And they'll be like, well, like 25% are female or some high number.

01:07:34.000 You're like, No.

01:07:34.000 It's like less than 1%.

01:07:35.000 Yeah, yeah, it's like way, way down the list, and that's because medium is the message, visual persuasion.

01:07:42.000 Even if you're, even if, from a good point, because I believe in representation, I believe, I agree with the left in terms of representation matters.

01:07:48.000 You should have positive role models of every kind of race, religion represented, because that does matter, because kids watch that, because media is so important.

01:07:56.000 So if people grew up in the 80s and they watch action movies, they go to the gym.

01:08:00.000 It's unconscious.

01:08:01.000 Nobody's saying, hey, go look like Sylvester Stallone.

01:08:03.000 But it's there on a conscious level.

01:08:06.000 So I actually believe in representation.

01:08:08.000 But even when it's meant to be done in good faith, people then draw the wrong conclusions.

01:08:13.000 And then when it's done in bad faith, which is what the media is doing, hands up, don't shoot, all the various hoaxes, you're terrorizing.

01:08:20.000 I mean, the wild thing about it is, this is probably a weird thing that people wouldn't expect me to think, but I would say that black men are the biggest victims of the media hoaxes.

01:08:29.000 Because when I leave the house, I know as a lawyer, if I get pulled over, things get dodgy, you should be careful all the time.

01:08:36.000 I tell people that, whatever you are.

01:08:38.000 But I don't think that I'm gonna get hunted down by anyone. 0.86

01:08:41.000 I don't think that I'm gonna get hunted down by a gang of black teenagers, or the police, or anyone else. 0.54

01:08:46.000 There's a large percent of the population, there's actually somebody who worked for the NRA, a black guy, and he would say that, or African American, or POC, or whatever you're allowed to say now, he used to actually believe that white people with guns were gonna hunt him down. 0.95

01:08:59.000 What a terrible way to live, man.

01:09:00.000 Yeah, it's scary, man.

01:09:01.000 And that's because you've been gaslit.

01:09:03.000 Well, so the crazy thing is, when I went to Sweden, there were a lot of conservative personalities talking about the migrant crime waves and things like that.

01:09:10.000 And they were showing these videos of burning cars and the most egregious stuff.

01:09:13.000 And what I discovered was, they were right.

01:09:16.000 There was a crime wave in Sweden.

01:09:19.000 The previous year, they had a total of one murder.

01:09:22.000 The next year, it went up to like 13.

01:09:24.000 For the people of the city of Malmo, that was nightmarish.

01:09:28.000 It was like, why are all these people being killed?

01:09:30.000 But for someone from Chicago, I was like, is that it?

01:09:33.000 So what happens is, people in the U.S.

01:09:36.000 hear a story.

01:09:37.000 Murders are up over 1,000%. 0.86

01:09:38.000 And if you live in Chicago, your perspective is based on the Chicago murder rate of being crazy.

01:09:44.000 Then you'd imagine your world, 1,000% increase in murder, you'd be imagining crazy insanity.

01:09:51.000 You'd be like, I'm not going to Sweden.

01:09:53.000 But you actually go there and you're like, oh, I get it.

01:09:55.000 Crime is up.

01:09:57.000 It's up quite a bit.

01:09:58.000 This has the residents scared.

01:10:00.000 But relative to where I'm from, crime is extremely and ridiculously low.

01:10:05.000 So what happens is, I think there are people who were correctly pointing out the crime waves, but basing the reality situation off of their personal experience in, say, London, where there is, like, more crime.

01:10:17.000 They then put out videos, or New York, or Chicago, or Baltimore.

01:10:20.000 And then they make it seem, because in their worldview, it is crazy to see this massive increase in murders.

01:10:27.000 For people who lived in Sweden, they were shocked by these numbers, but they're not used to it.

01:10:32.000 So their fear was legitimate.

01:10:34.000 When these people in Sweden would say, we're terrified to go outside, they mean it, but it's not the same thing.

01:10:39.000 You know, if you're not from there, you wouldn't know.

01:10:40.000 Well, and a lot of that's in good faith too, which is, Why?

01:10:44.000 Like, I'll give you an example.

01:10:46.000 Like, I used to be, because I grew up in a small town, terrified of big cities, right?

01:10:50.000 I wouldn't want to go to New York and get shot.

01:10:52.000 You're going to go to Chicago to get mugged.

01:10:53.000 And then I started traveling more.

01:10:55.000 And then I would meet people from the city who were afraid of the country.

01:10:58.000 We'd be driving down.

01:10:59.000 They're like, Oh my God, country roads.

01:11:00.000 Is this going to be the Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

01:11:03.000 Is it going to be deliverance all over again?

01:11:05.000 So there, there is the other rising where, okay, I grew up in the rural area and actually it's incredibly dangerous in terms of driving, car accidents, a deer runs out.

01:11:14.000 And I'm afraid of going to Chicago to go shopping on Miracle Mile.

01:11:18.000 I'm actually safer on Miracle Mile than I am driving my car at night because some deer is not going to, you know, run out of the road.

01:11:24.000 So that's not even malicious.

01:11:25.000 But then with the media, because there's all these cognitive biases, the availability bias of the last thing you hear is what you think happens all the time.

01:11:32.000 So for example, there was that famous...

01:11:35.000 The case where the airline pilot, I think Captain Sullivan or Sully, landed in water.

01:11:40.000 And then after he landed in water, oh my God, an emergency.

01:11:43.000 We have to now have water life jackets in every kind of plane.

01:11:47.000 You're like, that happened one time in 10 years, dude.

01:11:50.000 But if you're the guy who says that happened one time in 10 years, it is what it is.

01:11:54.000 Now you're going to be massacred by the media.

01:11:55.000 Oh, you don't care if kids drown in a pool. 0.82

01:11:58.000 So that's always going to happen too.

01:12:00.000 And it happens to us even when you're trying to act in good faith and to And to tell the truth.

01:12:05.000 I worked at O'Hare Airport and they hired a safety coordinator guy.

01:12:11.000 So they have the bag room where the conveyor belt brings all of your luggage when you drop it off.

01:12:15.000 And so I guess one day, this is what I was told, I don't know if it's true, but this is what I was told.

01:12:19.000 Somebody had something on their boot and slipped.

01:12:22.000 And so the next day I come in and they've glued this grit down to the floor, all across the floor.

01:12:29.000 And it made it a lot harder to drive across because it was super grippy material.

01:12:33.000 And it was really funny to walk over.

01:12:35.000 It was like they took sandpaper glued to the floor.

01:12:38.000 And, uh, I was like, so like one guy trips and that's their response.

01:12:42.000 Well, they don't want to be sued.

01:12:43.000 Yep.

01:12:44.000 So if one guy got hurt, the next time someone gets hurt, they're going to spend, you know, thousands and thousands of dollars.

01:12:49.000 They're like, spend a couple hundred bucks and glue the sandpaper to the floor.

01:12:52.000 So it was an overreaction, but it's also, I guess, just, we have this system built in place where nobody wants to assume any risks.

01:13:00.000 Nobody wants to recognize that sometimes accidents happen, but also some people exploit that accident for personal gain.

01:13:04.000 Well, you don't want to be an adult.

01:13:06.000 That's where, you know, one of the things... I don't like how Trump handled coronavirus.

01:13:10.000 I'm not here to defend that.

01:13:11.000 But, like, one thing he said was, hey man, you know, like, people die.

01:13:13.000 It is what it is.

01:13:15.000 And the answer is yes.

01:13:17.000 I mean, a lot of people are going to die this year.

01:13:19.000 They're going to, like, die of different things.

01:13:21.000 There are trade-offs.

01:13:23.000 You can't just be like, every death is a tragedy.

01:13:25.000 I mean, it is to me.

01:13:26.000 You know, if I die, it's a tragedy to my family or friends or whatever.

01:13:30.000 But if you're in a leadership position, the answer is like, yeah, I mean, people die, dude.

01:13:33.000 Like, what are you gonna do?

01:13:34.000 You stop the world?

01:13:35.000 You shut everything down because people are gonna die? 0.99

01:13:38.000 But then if you say that, now you're a monster. 0.88

01:13:39.000 Oh, this person doesn't care about anyone. 0.99

01:13:41.000 He's killing Grandma.

01:13:42.000 That's the scary reality of what's going on, is that everything has to be perfect all the time.

01:13:47.000 Like, I see these tweets from AOC, and she, you know, there was like some lefty who said, Uh, what did they say?

01:13:53.000 No one should ever have to live in poverty.

01:13:55.000 And it was like, someone responded, a person, there's a viral tweet, a person who was working full time should not be living in poverty.

01:14:01.000 And they responded with a snapback, no one should be living in poverty.

01:14:05.000 Poverty's relative!

01:14:07.000 Poverty 100 years ago was like people sleeping in a mud pit, and Rockefeller had garbage dental care.

01:14:13.000 Now, poor people in this country are overweight and have air conditioning and refrigerators and TVs.

01:14:19.000 Look, I'm not saying life is great for them.

01:14:21.000 I would like to see them live better.

01:14:23.000 I would like to see the standard go up, but the standard is going up.

01:14:25.000 If no one can ever live in poverty, well, I don't know what to tell you, man, because it's relative.

01:14:29.000 Well, and Luke's been around, you know, like, I thought I grew up poor, and like, I, you know, I got the creds to say

01:14:35.000 I grew up poor, and then I went to Cambodia, and I was like, alright, dude.

01:14:38.000 You had a yard, bro.

01:14:39.000 You had a yard.

01:14:40.000 You didn't really grow up poor.

01:14:42.000 Yeah, I mean, traveling to places like Philippines and Africa and Somalia, it really gives you a lot of different perspectives.

01:14:47.000 But you were also born in the Soviet Union.

01:14:49.000 Yeah, well, born in Poland.

01:14:51.000 But again, what's happening here is everything's becoming so political.

01:14:55.000 Everything's becoming this kind of emotional, manipulative mind control.

01:14:59.000 And it's being played over and over again just to make sure that we are convinced that something is happening.

01:15:05.000 When we look at the way that the media has been acting, they've been acting very, very intelligently when it comes to their propaganda.

01:15:12.000 There's a reason they repeated the George Floyd murder tape over and over and over again.

01:15:18.000 And when we talk about, you know, that particular event, whether you have questions about it or not, It brought up a lot of emotions for a lot of people that a lot of people capitalized on for their own personal political benefit.

01:15:30.000 Whether it was true or not, it didn't matter.

01:15:32.000 People saw it and got to see it all the time.

01:15:35.000 When it comes to other people, let's just say, you know, Ashley Babbitt getting killed, you don't see that footage on CNN for a particular reason.

01:15:41.000 This is why the Vietnam War... 0.75

01:15:43.000 It was on CNN.

01:15:44.000 They paid the guy, the lefty activist, 30 grand for it.

01:15:46.000 But as far as, if you compare the footage to George Floyd, I think there's a big disparity as far as how much it's played, how it's played, and the coverage behind it, the music behind it, the zooming in on it, the face of a man dying in front of you is traumatic.

01:16:01.000 But we have to understand, these are selectively chosen to have a bigger agenda out there.

01:16:06.000 When you brought up, you know, COVID, if we treated obesity like COVID, cancer like COVID, the opioid epidemic like COVID, especially with the number of deaths, with the number of people's affected by that, my goodness, we would never get out of the door ever.

01:16:19.000 But COVID is something else that's being treated in this own special, unique way.

01:16:24.000 But obesity, depression, child suicide rates, all of those issues that are effective of the lockdowns, we're not, we can't even talk about it.

01:16:33.000 300,000 people die per year from obesity.

01:16:35.000 We've got to lock everything down.

01:16:37.000 We've got to shut it all down.

01:16:38.000 It's 300,000 people who died.

01:16:39.000 Diabetes, I mean, if you factor diabetes and heart disease in that, probably more.

01:16:44.000 I mean, if you look at it like lifestyle, well, the top 10 most prescribed pharmaceuticals, 8 out of 10 are lifestyle.

01:16:51.000 One of the most incredulous things that I saw was a Pepsi advertisement saying that your next COVID test is going to be at Walmart.

01:16:59.000 I mean, how ridiculous could it be?

01:17:02.000 There was a Pepsi advertisement that said, get your COVID test now at Walmart. 0.93

01:17:06.000 And I'm like, are you freaking kidding me?

01:17:08.000 Especially when you look at the scientific studies.

01:17:10.000 There's a meme I tweeted of this morbidly obese guy with all the KFC and all this fast food.

01:17:15.000 And the byline says, Americans be like, you have no right to go outside and endanger my health.

01:17:20.000 There's no real conversations about health.

01:17:22.000 There's no real conversations about stress, sleep, meditation, fasting, supplements, making sure you get enough exercise.

01:17:29.000 There's no conversations about that.

01:17:30.000 But there is conversations about restricting your freedoms, taking away your liberties, taking away your money, taking away your livelihood, taking away your existence for the benefit of the state. 0.93

01:17:38.000 And it's ridiculous, and it's sick, and it's two-faced, and it needs to be called out more than ever. 0.91

01:17:43.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:17:43.000 So, thank you, Naomi Klein, for doing that. 0.94

01:17:46.000 Let's sort of do a pretty harsh segue into this other segment that's about critical race theory and social justice stuff, but it's more about men and women and child rearing and stuff.

01:17:56.000 I normally like to make sure we keep everything in a standard through line, but this one's too interesting to pass up, because Matthew Iglesias.

01:18:03.000 So Matthew Iglesias is the co-founder of Vox.com, and he tweeted this today.

01:18:08.000 Here's a poll that could burn the discourse down.

01:18:12.000 And I don't know why he posted it, but it's family work preference based on gender and marital parental status.

01:18:19.000 And the funny thing is, I don't think there's anything necessarily definitive from it, but we do see that married mothers overwhelmingly believe, around 55%, that one parent should work full-time, and one parent should provide childcare in the home, and married fathers basically think the same thing.

01:18:35.000 But you know what's really funny about this?

01:18:36.000 Married mothers, only about 15%, think both parents should work full-time and use childcare.

01:18:42.000 Married fathers, you actually have around 25% who think both parents should be working full-time and using paid childcare.

01:18:50.000 I think it's funny that more guys think that.

01:18:52.000 And I think it's because men probably underestimate the amount of work that goes into raising kids.

01:18:56.000 So they're like, ah, my wife can work. 1.00

01:18:58.000 It's no big deal.

01:18:59.000 We'll get a child, you know, a sitter.

01:19:01.000 And the wife is like, no, no, no, you underestimate. 0.99

01:19:04.000 But interestingly, There's a poll from 2019 that Matthew also posted.

01:19:10.000 56% of women prefer working to homemaking. 0.98

01:19:12.000 I think there's interesting ramifications from this, notably that the number is actually 56 for women who prefer to work outside the home, but 75% for men.

01:19:21.000 And then 39% of women prefer being a homemaker and only 23% of men. 0.68

01:19:28.000 My question, and I want to get into the gender dynamics, especially with you here, Mike, about what you think this leads to, why it's happening.

01:19:36.000 We were talking about testosterone before, and men's testosterone levels going down, so I figured it'd be fun to talk about this.

01:19:42.000 Yeah, those things, I'm surprised the numbers aren't inverse, where more people want to be stay-at-home moms.

01:19:47.000 One thing I've got with Shauna is, Shauna would be a little bit insecure 1.00

01:19:52.000 to say that she was a stay-at-home mom because she would get shamed by other women 1.00

01:19:58.000 for being a stay-at-home mom.

01:20:00.000 But why would you shame someone if you were happy?

01:20:03.000 That's where I think the numbers are probably even more skewed towards they actually don't wanna work

01:20:09.000 because think about it, if you're happy and somebody says, oh yeah, I'm doing this thing like me,

01:20:13.000 oh yeah, I like to lift weights and you tell me, oh, I like to bike,

01:20:16.000 you tell me you like to run, You like to run?

01:20:18.000 You like to bike?

01:20:19.000 And I'm like, I'm glad that everybody's really happy.

01:20:22.000 So she would feel like put on the spot.

01:20:24.000 Right.

01:20:24.000 Because there's all this like shame directed by women who are like only a stay at home mom.

01:20:30.000 I couldn't do it.

01:20:31.000 I could just, I know, I believe in mindset, your limits, blah, blah, blah.

01:20:35.000 I could not be all the time with the kids the way my wife. 0.58

01:20:39.000 This is like the one subject that, when we talk about, triggers the most anger from leftists, and I don't... I mean, I can probably make some assumptions as to why they get so mad about it, because maybe it's what you kind of pointed out, that there's a lot of women who would rather be homemakers.

01:20:53.000 I mean, the Gallup poll says that.

01:20:55.000 Maybe there are more, but they're worried about being shunned or shamed.

01:20:58.000 Well, parenting does too.

01:21:00.000 So Shauna, it's so interesting because I see things from her perspective too, is anything about parenting makes people mad.

01:21:06.000 So for example, I did a whole thread on how we did natural childbirth, and I prefaced it with, hey man, if you went to the hospital, I just hope your kids are healthy.

01:21:13.000 All love, blessings, love and light.

01:21:16.000 How dare you! 0.99

01:21:18.000 You're giving misinformation about home births and they're yelling.

01:21:20.000 So anytime you do something about parenting, you're already in the danger zone because people take it personally.

01:21:26.000 Oh, so you read to your kids three books a day.

01:21:28.000 I only read one book a day to my kid.

01:21:30.000 You're therefore saying that I'm a bad parent.

01:21:32.000 Nobody's telling you that, bro.

01:21:33.000 We're just hanging out.

01:21:35.000 So you're already in the danger zone.

01:21:36.000 And then when you talk about anything with the idea that there's a traditional gender roles might actually have a biological root to it.

01:21:44.000 Now you've doubled it, right?

01:21:47.000 Because if all you talked about was peaceful parenting, you would have people mad at you.

01:21:52.000 Well, I was spanked as a kid and I turned out good, so you're already there.

01:21:55.000 And I'm not even saying biological component.

01:21:56.000 I'm just like, oh, look at this poll that says women prefer it more than men.

01:22:01.000 And then, man, people just light up.

01:22:04.000 They're going to read that into it, though.

01:22:06.000 Oh, of course, of course.

01:22:07.000 Oh, so, because they all, you know, they're raised in like John Stewart and John.

01:22:10.000 Oh, so what you're saying is that men belong in the working and women belong in the house. 0.91

01:22:16.000 Like, bro, I never said that.

01:22:17.000 I mean, I'm just talking about an actual survey.

01:22:19.000 So I can just say that I could not, I could not be a mom.

01:22:24.000 And I, I don't have to pander to women because mine says men, all blessings to them.

01:22:29.000 There's an article I read that really triggered the left.

01:22:32.000 And it, like, seriously did as I started writing articles about it and yelling at me and I got a bunch of people hitting me up.

01:22:36.000 Because it was about working women in their 30s who couldn't find men.

01:22:40.000 And I'm like, maybe there is something with this Gallup poll and this other discourse thing that Matthew Glacius tweeted, where if you got a guy who's in his 30s who's successful and attractive, he's not going to want to find a woman who, you know, wants to work.

01:22:53.000 He wants to find someone who can help him have a family.

01:22:56.000 There's a lot of things you can misinterpret with opinions, but one thing you can't misinterpret are the financial ramifications that cause people to have a home where both of the parents work.

01:23:06.000 It used to be that someone would have one job and they could pay for their family, they could pay for their mortgage, they could pay for the food on the table.

01:23:12.000 Now that situation is dramatically going down, especially with energy prices going up, housing prices going up.

01:23:18.000 Food prices going up this is affecting us in such a ... dramatic ways and we have to understand behind the larger ... movement especially in the early on sense of the 1900s ... there was a lot of industrialists that saw that if ... we have more taxpayers if we have more workers if we have ... more factory people if we have more employees to choose from.

01:23:39.000 Wages will naturally go down, and that's why big-time industrialists like Rockefeller were big-time proponents of movements that made women go into the workforce. 1.00

01:23:48.000 So there are natural incentives.

01:23:50.000 Sure, I don't even want to go there.

01:23:51.000 The financial incentives are something that we should be having a bigger conversation on because these are the talking points that do affect us, and we need to realize that in America, a single working family home cannot make ends meet.

01:24:05.000 One person working can't happen.

01:24:07.000 What's going to happen?

01:24:08.000 Two people are going to have to work, and they're going to have to rely on illegal labor to raise their children. 0.86

01:24:12.000 I think you're wrong.

01:24:14.000 Why?

01:24:14.000 Well, there's a bunch of different jobs in this country.

01:24:16.000 There's average, median income.

01:24:17.000 Very few that could survive and sustain a family.

01:24:20.000 What's the median income?

01:24:23.000 I'll just tell you, man, I've been blessed in life.

01:24:27.000 It's hard out there, man.

01:24:28.000 When I go, because I don't do a lot of the shopping at the Albertsons or whatever.

01:24:32.000 You should go to Costco, buy in bulk.

01:24:34.000 I went to buy Halloween candy, and I was like, how is peanut M&M's You know, $44 or whatever.

01:24:40.000 It goes fast when you have kids.

01:24:42.000 It goes faster, like diapers and everything.

01:24:44.000 It's hard, man.

01:24:46.000 So, there are some personalities who had kids when they were extremely young and became extremely successful.

01:24:53.000 I think that one of the issues, you've got a bunch of young men who are sitting around doing nothing.

01:24:58.000 That's one of the reasons I think Jordan Peterson became so popular is that he was trying to give young men purpose.

01:25:03.000 And I think it's one of the reasons why the far left got really mad about it.

01:25:06.000 But if you got a bunch of guys who are working maybe, you know, let's say they're working 40 hours a week.

01:25:11.000 Are they really striving and are they providing that level of demand to a boss?

01:25:17.000 Let me clarify.

01:25:18.000 Let's say you're 23 and you're working at a Best Buy or something.

01:25:24.000 You're not gonna go to your boss and put pressure on him and try and find more work because you're probably making more than enough.

01:25:30.000 You go home, you play World of Warcraft, you play Destiny, whatever video games you're into, Minecraft or whatever, film some YouTube videos maybe, and then you're done.

01:25:36.000 Let's say you're 23 and you've got a 3-year-old kid.

01:25:38.000 You're gonna go to your boss and be like, I need more money.

01:25:40.000 And he's gonna be like, we can't give you more money.

01:25:42.000 Say, okay.

01:25:42.000 Then you're gonna start looking in the classifieds.

01:25:44.000 Then you're gonna be like, I have no choice.

01:25:46.000 I have to find something bigger and better.

01:25:49.000 You literally have no choice.

01:25:51.000 I think that people are missing responsibility in their lives that would normally drive them To succeed and do better.

01:25:58.000 I'm not saying it's absolute.

01:25:59.000 I'm not saying everybody.

01:26:00.000 I'm not even saying a majority.

01:26:01.000 I'm just saying I think that is a component for a lot of people.

01:26:03.000 Because I know it is hard out there.

01:26:05.000 I know a lot of people struggle to make ends meet.

01:26:07.000 But I also know that there are a lot of people... So I knew people back where I grew up on the south side of Chicago who found a way to go from being a high school dropout to making six figures because they literally had no choice.

01:26:18.000 They had a kid when they were a teenager and they started working 80 hours a week And then every opportunity they saw they took, they pressured their bosses and they said, I got a kid.

01:26:27.000 I got to make more money.

01:26:29.000 And then by the time they were 20, they were a manager making six figures at some company.

01:26:33.000 There's that.

01:26:33.000 I mean, there's, so you raised a lot of, there's so much swirl, which is the idea that a lot of reason, reasons that young men aren't driven is because the dating is a disaster.

01:26:43.000 Unless you're like a very top tier guy.

01:26:44.000 I read some statistic on how many people ever get matched on these dating apps.

01:26:48.000 So, the way the dating system has, it's actually kind of wild if you think about, if you're like a top tier guy, you can have four, they call them spinning plates, you can have four or five different girls that you're dating and they just kind of accept it like that's the way it is and you have all the leverage, and then if you're just like a guy who's maybe above average, a little bit above average, You're good luck, dude.

01:27:10.000 Let me tell you a story.

01:27:11.000 A story and a theory.

01:27:13.000 Hypothesis.

01:27:14.000 I was talking to some 22-year-old dude on the East Coast a year or two ago.

01:27:20.000 And he was talking about how he never had a real relationship or anything like that.

01:27:23.000 And I was like, man, you're 22?

01:27:24.000 To me, that's crazy.

01:27:25.000 And I realized something.

01:27:30.000 When I was, when I was a teenager and when I was, you know, partying college years and it was just like, I drank way too much, man.

01:27:36.000 I used to drink and just party nonstop all day.

01:27:38.000 I didn't go to high school, so I was just skateboarding, playing music, being drunk, going and partying.

01:27:41.000 It was kind of wild.

01:27:43.000 But the women that I would meet, we didn't have Tinder. 1.00

01:27:46.000 We didn't, we didn't have any of these apps.

01:27:48.000 So what would happen is the women I knew in college only knew the men they met in college.

01:27:54.000 So, who are the guys in college?

01:27:55.000 Well, this chick's 19 years old. 0.63

01:27:57.000 She knows some 19-year-old guy.

01:27:59.000 He's not got anything really going for him.

01:28:01.000 He lives in a dorm.

01:28:02.000 He doesn't have a car.

01:28:03.000 But, it's who she knows.

01:28:05.000 So, she dates him.

01:28:06.000 Now he's 19.

01:28:07.000 They, you know, become college sweethearts or whatever.

01:28:09.000 Maybe they get married, maybe they don't.

01:28:11.000 There's a lot of people like that.

01:28:12.000 That's what's happening.

01:28:13.000 Not anymore.

01:28:14.000 The game changed.

01:28:15.000 That's my theory.

01:28:16.000 So I saw this guy.

01:28:17.000 Then dating apps come out.

01:28:19.000 Now, this college woman who's 19 or 20 opens up their app, and it's not just the 19-year-old guy.

01:28:24.000 This is what I said to this 22-year-old guy.

01:28:26.000 I said, I'll tell you what your problem is, and this is not absolute, I'm just saying, but I'll tell you, this is something you were really facing that I didn't face when I was younger.

01:28:32.000 I was like, look, I'm in my early 30s, I'm wealthy, successful.

01:28:37.000 I got a conversion RV van.

01:28:40.000 I can take you to an infinity pool on a roof of this luxury casino.

01:28:45.000 And when I go on these apps, how is a 19-year-old college kid gonna compete with that?

01:28:50.000 So it's really simple.

01:28:51.000 I'm not trying to impugn the honor of these young women.

01:28:53.000 It's very, very simple.

01:28:54.000 If there's a 20-year-old woman, and she swipes right on this attractive 20-year-old guy at her college, and they're messaging, and she's also messaging a 30-year-old guy, 30-year-old guy says, how would you like me to pick you up in my, you know, convertible and we'll drive to my house.

01:29:10.000 I've got an infinity pool I just built.

01:29:12.000 And the 20-year-old guy says, how would you like to come hang out at my dorm and watch movies?

01:29:16.000 And she's like, man, which one sounds like more fun?

01:29:18.000 There's more opportunity with the guy who's already established.

01:29:21.000 Dating apps have opened that up and made it much, much harder because now young men without the status and the wealth are competing against established men.

01:29:28.000 Yes, and adding to that is The 30 year old guy isn't just texting one 19 year old.

01:29:34.000 So he's not just taking one off the market, which would be, you know, mathematically, it would all kind of suss out.

01:29:39.000 He's actually taken three, four or five off the market because he's making them all.

01:29:44.000 So it's the weird thing is online dating has ruined it for women because a guy can just be like, Hey dude, I need NUDESs.

01:29:51.000 And if you're like, no, it's like, okay, I'm the 35 year old guy.

01:29:55.000 I'm going to, I'm about to fly to Paris.

01:29:57.000 I'm picking out who I want to bring with me on this trip.

01:29:59.000 You're going to send them?

01:30:00.000 No.

01:30:01.000 See you later.

01:30:02.000 Going down the list of the, you have not just your 19 year old and you can't compete, but it's not just one girl has been taken off the market.

01:30:09.000 Now it's really like four or five are being taken off by the top dog.

01:30:13.000 So you have the, the, the top of the food chain kind of guys having a monopoly.

01:30:18.000 And then you have the younger guys who then just check out.

01:30:20.000 I want to stress, too, more power to these women. 1.00

01:30:22.000 It's their choice to be with whoever they want to be with.

01:30:24.000 And I'm not saying that there's any violation of their autonomy or agency simply because they're engaged in this dating app game.

01:30:30.000 I'm just saying there is a general hypothesis I have that I think the math will pan out that young men are less likely to form bonds and relationships with women because of the competition in the market.

01:30:42.000 But then my question is, what happens when those 20-year-old guys are 30-year-old guys without any dating experience?

01:30:48.000 But also, most importantly, what's going to happen to those 19-year-old women that do become 30? 1.00

01:30:52.000 There's this weird kind of invert axis that happens, especially around the age of 30.

01:30:57.000 I mean, it's becoming later and later on, but it's not good.

01:31:00.000 It's not good for men when they're young, and it's not good for women when they're older. 0.97

01:31:04.000 So this is causing a lot of infighting that is causing a lot of relationships not to happen.

01:31:10.000 I gotta say, too, I love, like, this always really, really pisses off the left, but I think it was OkCupid who did the study on... They would never do that again.

01:31:19.000 Oh, right.

01:31:19.000 They deleted them.

01:31:20.000 Yeah.

01:31:20.000 They deleted these studies.

01:31:22.000 It showed that... I forgot what their metrics were, but that women have maximum societal value at young ages and men have none. 0.75

01:31:30.000 And then around 28, men start going up.

01:31:33.000 It's around 22 men start going up and around 22 women, I think 22 is where their highest 0.94

01:31:39.000 point.

01:31:40.000 Yeah, they peak at 22 to 25 and the man, so 25- But they flip it at like 30.

01:31:44.000 Yeah, so then a man's hitting prime time at 28 to like 36 and then the woman on the decline. 0.55

01:31:49.000 So then what happens, which Luke says, is if you're a 30 year old guy at the top of

01:31:53.000 the food chain, you're going to be like, why am I going to date a 30 year old who was dating

01:31:57.000 30 year olds when she was 19 all through that when I can be, I'm 30 years old, I'm on top

01:32:01.000 of the food chain now.

01:32:02.000 What are you going to do?

01:32:04.000 And then women get mad because they're like, well, I have a career, this and that. 1.00

01:32:07.000 And then, and that goes to the survey earlier is like one thing that really.

01:32:11.000 surprises women in a way that's unpleasant for them is most men don't care what your career is.

01:32:17.000 You know?

01:32:17.000 I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you can say I'm a middle-level executive at the whatever thing and if a guy's got his own thing going on he's like well that's nice I'm happy for you congratulations for your success but I don't know dude I'm trying to like take a trip you want to like get on a plane or you got to call in sick at work or you got to get vacation time or whatever.

01:32:35.000 Yeah, so that's actually something I experienced.

01:32:38.000 I was in a relationship with a fairly prominent media individual, and it was just like, you're doing your thing that's really cool, then we're both doing our thing.

01:32:48.000 And so there was no real opportunity to actually spend time together.

01:32:51.000 It's like, if you've got your career, and your career is the most important thing, I gotta be honest, all we really did was like, sleep in the same bed.

01:32:58.000 Like, night comes, and it's like, how was your day?

01:33:00.000 That's great.

01:33:00.000 And then we didn't really do anything together.

01:33:02.000 There was no shared mission.

01:33:04.000 Right.

01:33:04.000 And it can't be that way.

01:33:07.000 And I'm like what you said earlier.

01:33:09.000 If you're like 19 years old and you get to have fun, that's your life, man.

01:33:14.000 Men or women can do whatever they want to do.

01:33:16.000 The question was how mathematically that sets us out.

01:33:19.000 So then you have men kind of check out. 0.97

01:33:20.000 And then men are kind of, I don't know, man, they're kind of lame.

01:33:23.000 And then I know all these, because when you become a little bit more prominent, women will kind of start to talk to you a little bit more.

01:33:29.000 And a lot of attractive women would be like, oh man, no guys hit on me. 1.00

01:33:32.000 And I'm like, look, man, I don't know what you're trying to do here, but I'm not the guy who's going to compliment you.

01:33:37.000 And then I found out, no, no, they weren't fishing for compliments.

01:33:40.000 Men don't actually make a move. 0.91

01:33:41.000 So I would be at places and it's like junior high, you know, I'm 43.

01:33:45.000 It's like junior high all over again.

01:33:47.000 So there'll be four girls over here, women, or, you know, whatever, young women over here, four guys over here. 0.99

01:33:52.000 And they're kind of like looking and the guys don't make moves anymore either.

01:33:55.000 They're on their app.

01:33:56.000 They're like, can I swipe?

01:33:57.000 And they're like, I don't know, make a move or whatever, whereas when you were, you know, my, you know, when you were in college, your age or my age, you had to go make a move, dude.

01:34:04.000 That's, that's the crazy thing.

01:34:05.000 I was thinking about that.

01:34:05.000 When I was, you know, like 18, 19, 20, every weekend we would be at some random house party and it was literally just dudes walking around, hey, what's up, to women and talking to them.

01:34:15.000 And then they'd feel it out and then they'd either leave or that was it.

01:34:18.000 Like, congratulations, you met someone.

01:34:20.000 Now you're going to go hang out or do something.

01:34:22.000 Now it's all, like, pre-screened on an app.

01:34:24.000 You know, Bumble, the woman who invented Bumble, becomes a billionaire where only the women can make the opening move. 1.00

01:34:30.000 Like, these apps have... You know what?

01:34:32.000 I'm not gonna say this.

01:34:33.000 I don't know what the long-term effects of this are gonna be, so I'm not here to make, like, a harsh criticism of the dating scene or the choices of men and women.

01:34:40.000 Just pointing out the differences that I've experienced and what I think might be affecting men and women at certain ages.

01:34:45.000 Well, I mean, we see the results, and I'm happy to make a prediction.

01:34:49.000 The results are, if you're a guy at the top of the food chain, you're King Kong again.

01:34:53.000 You're in an aristocracy.

01:34:55.000 You have all the cards on the table.

01:34:57.000 We've returned to an aristocracy where you can live, as a man, a life that you couldn't have lived unless you were royalty in a previous time.

01:35:05.000 I was talking to a friend about this.

01:35:06.000 I was like, I think a lot of this feminist liberation stuff and apps have been the greatest thing For like douchey alpha guys.

01:35:14.000 Oh for sure without question because now it's like They're they're going on apps, and they're swiping around literally every woman Then they're getting then they wait for the woman message them back And they just like I love these memes where like one guy will message 50 women the same thing and go oh man That's that you all saw that oops thinking it was gonna be like a blind carbon copy or something yeah, so What I've noticed from a lot of this, there's a lot of regular dudes, clueless and cut out.

01:35:41.000 And there's a lot of guys that are prominent, successful, wealthy, who are just owning the game.

01:35:48.000 And they're doing it unabashedly because they're leaning into the sexual revolution too, which is okay.

01:35:53.000 There are guys who are just like, okay, I just don't do monogamy, dude.

01:35:56.000 You know, you got a problem with that?

01:35:58.000 Fine with me.

01:35:59.000 Whatever.

01:35:59.000 This is kind of the way it's going to be.

01:36:01.000 And everything is free.

01:36:02.000 Nobody's being compelled to do anything.

01:36:04.000 And so then the competition becomes less because more and more people check out.

01:36:08.000 It creates this vicious cycle.

01:36:10.000 So then you do.

01:36:11.000 The winner of all this stuff are the top 1% to 10% of men are the people who won from the dating apps.

01:36:19.000 And OKCupid showed that.

01:36:21.000 OKCupid, they had all this great... You could never do this now.

01:36:23.000 It shows how far cancel culture is.

01:36:25.000 They deleted one on ugliness.

01:36:26.000 Yep. 0.99

01:36:26.000 Like if you're an ugly guy, you're doomed. 0.99

01:36:28.000 And they deleted it because they were like... 0.97

01:36:30.000 Well, and they did one, too, where when you call somebody a douchebag, those people, the guy with the shirt off in front of the Corvette actually gets, yes, hit up more by the women. 0.99

01:36:39.000 I remember saying that.

01:36:41.000 They said, although many women will stay in their profiles, if you're not wearing your shirt, don't bother. 1.00

01:36:46.000 They actually tend to respond more to men who are not wearing shirts.

01:36:49.000 Right.

01:36:50.000 So all the empirical data show that if you're the douchebag guy, Take your shirt off, wax your car, show pictures of you by the Eiffel Tower, you're going to actually get hit up. 0.59

01:37:02.000 And if you're the respectable guy and very nice, you know, I read all the feminists lit, you're not going to get anything. 1.00

01:37:07.000 But that's, of course, why they had to delete it, because the empirical data was in direct conflict with the narrative.

01:37:13.000 There was one they had specifically about attractiveness and what they found is men will message women similar to their own level of attractiveness, so it's a bell curve, but women overwhelmingly overvalue their attractiveness and only try going for the best of the best guys. 0.54

01:37:28.000 So it's something like, what is it?

01:37:30.000 Like 20% of the guys get 90% of the messages, right?

01:37:34.000 Something like that.

01:37:34.000 And it's all the top tier, best of the best chiseled six foot five, you know, models and shirts off.

01:37:40.000 Tribalism in general, you'd have a group of women and they'd all have one guy that they would use for the semen to have the children. 1.00

01:37:48.000 And that's how it went. 0.82

01:37:49.000 And now it's like, we're reverting back to that almost.

01:37:51.000 We're evolving to a new version of it.

01:37:55.000 Is it evolving or devolving?

01:37:57.000 I don't know.

01:37:59.000 I think it's a change or whatever.

01:38:00.000 That's why I'm an institutionalist.

01:38:02.000 That's why I can represent John Roberts and maybe Jordan Peterson's point of view where he got in trouble with enforced monogamy because people can't have an adult conversation.

01:38:09.000 But if you don't want to be like the Middle East where one guy has five women and now four guys have nothing to do but blow 0.99

01:38:18.000 things up or get angry, get radicalized. The idea that if we want to

01:38:22.000 live in a socially cohesive stable culture,

01:38:26.000 I want people paired up. I want people having kids at an early age. I want them

01:38:30.000 thinking about the next generation.

01:38:32.000 Like I said, I'm a kucky institutionalist. I like social stability and social order. I think, you know,

01:38:39.000 probably less than Jordan Peterson does, but

01:38:40.000 that's where Jordan Peterson got in trouble. It's called enforced monogamy. 1.00

01:38:44.000 And what happened was you had, I think, some feminist writers thought 1.00

01:38:47.000 what he was saying was you would take women and force them to be with men.

01:38:50.000 What he was saying was that just social, like, yeah, like cultural, like, hey, you should get married, you should

01:38:56.000 think about having a family.

01:38:57.000 Well, here's how it changed.

01:38:58.000 When you...

01:38:59.000 I'm 43, I'm probably the oldest in the room, right?

01:39:01.000 Yeah, number one. 1.00

01:39:02.000 Okay, yeah, so enforced monogamy would just be when you were like my age, if you cheated on your girlfriend, you were like a scumbag. 1.00

01:39:09.000 You know, even your guy friends, you're not getting like high fives unless the other guy was kind of like a scumbag. 1.00

01:39:15.000 Right? 0.99

01:39:15.000 You're just like, Jesus, dude, like... 0.99

01:39:17.000 Your girlfriend's nice.

01:39:18.000 What are you doing?

01:39:19.000 That's enforced monogamy. 1.00

01:39:21.000 It isn't that you have to do it, but there's just a cultural norm.

01:39:24.000 Well, another thing we have to understand here, people not mating, people not having partners, leads to social decay, leads to crime, leads to violence, leads to radicalization, leads to, you know, again, I saw one of the stats, I forgot the exact kind of parameters of it, but it was People who don't get laid usually tend to be blowing themselves up or attacking people or to be some of the most crazy people in the world.

01:39:46.000 I mean, that's a problem, man.

01:39:47.000 No one deserves to get laid. 1.00

01:39:49.000 Like, no woman owes any guy anything like that.

01:39:52.000 So, I don't know how you solve for that.

01:39:54.000 I'm assuming the data is probably true.

01:39:56.000 I've heard similar things, but I don't know what he's supposed to do in that regard.

01:40:00.000 Well, that's the whole point.

01:40:02.000 You're not saying that you should change it or that you can change it.

01:40:07.000 It is what it is, to quote Donald Trump, which got him in a lot of trouble.

01:40:11.000 I think it's a bad situation societally, but what am I going to do?

01:40:14.000 It is what it is.

01:40:15.000 But also, let's make the point here that a lot of institutional establishment, mainstream media, Hollywood powers promote this larger message of promiscuity, of not having partners, of not having families.

01:40:27.000 There was even advertisements by the NIH in the United Kingdom telling people, do you want to have your video games or do you want to have a baby?

01:40:35.000 Do you want to have your high heels or do you want to have a baby as if having a baby is something bad and taking away from you having fun playing video games?

01:40:41.000 Are you wearing high heels or doing whatever you want to do with your life?

01:40:44.000 It's almost like they just want you to be a kid.

01:40:47.000 They don't want you to grow up, you know?

01:40:48.000 Did you post that meme earlier?

01:40:49.000 The high heels and lipstick? 0.98

01:40:51.000 Okay, because I saw that and the weird thing just is like a married guy is Sex gets better when you're with the person longer because you know what boundaries are and things aren't going to go too far and everybody knows what's going on.

01:41:04.000 So I saw that and I was like, actually these women don't know that in a committed relationship they're going to have more intimacy, they're actually going to have a better time. 1.00

01:41:12.000 So the idea that you're going to have a kid and you're never going to wear lipstick and lingerie and high heels is probably the opposite.

01:41:18.000 You're more likely to do that for a guy you're with.

01:41:20.000 I grew up with TV telling me marriage was bad and having a family was awful.

01:41:24.000 I mean, you know what show I really could never, I hated, was Married With Children? 0.99

01:41:28.000 And the reason I hated it was not because he was, you know, it was because he was a loser. 0.93

01:41:32.000 It was because he always lost. 0.93

01:41:34.000 The only episode I remember where Al Bundy actually won was when he punched a guy in the face

01:41:39.000 and then they joked that he sued him and won for hurting his fist on his face.

01:41:43.000 And it was because like the show was making a point that the system was broken.

01:41:47.000 But like I watched the show, you know, when it would come on, I was, I was young and he was always just miserable.

01:41:53.000 He hated his kids. 0.99

01:41:54.000 He hated his wife. 1.00

01:41:55.000 They hated everything.

01:41:55.000 And I was like, what is this?

01:41:57.000 This is awful.

01:41:58.000 We weren't allowed to watch it.

01:41:59.000 My parents wouldn't let us.

01:42:01.000 Look at the way a family is characterized in mainstream media, television, and sitcoms and movies.

01:42:06.000 Look at the way that the father is portrayed.

01:42:09.000 Look at his characters.

01:42:10.000 Look at what he stands for.

01:42:12.000 Look at how he acts. 1.00

01:42:12.000 He's a dumb, dopey, fat dope that doesn't give a damn about anything and is absolutely miserable. 1.00

01:42:18.000 So seeing that representation plays on the subconscious of so many young Americans, of so many young children, and it's the complete, utter opposite of what's happening in China. 1.00

01:42:27.000 China, huge population crisis because of their one-child policy. 0.98

01:42:30.000 They're literally building databases of fertile women inside of Beijing with millions of people. 0.92

01:42:36.000 Yes, China is building databases of how fertile women are in Beijing. 0.93

01:42:41.000 And we only know about that because that was leaked.

01:42:43.000 There's other stuff that they're doing.

01:42:44.000 I mean, they're creating machines that suck out the male energy Family-friendly show here. 0.96

01:42:51.000 I'm trying to watch my word here.

01:42:52.000 But you saw, I don't know if you guys seen this, but the Chinese machines... Reproductive matter. 0.99

01:42:56.000 Yes, yes.

01:42:57.000 They're literally building machines that suck out your reproductive matter. 1.00

01:43:01.000 They're trying to make males more masculine. 0.98

01:43:04.000 They're not allowing immigration.

01:43:07.000 They're a very nationalistic country.

01:43:09.000 Lydia looks scared there.

01:43:10.000 I'm horrified!

01:43:11.000 But that's happening.

01:43:12.000 That's the reality of the world that we're facing.

01:43:14.000 And if you compare what if you compare what China's doing to what the West is doing, it's a completely different approach.

01:43:20.000 And one of them is going to be successful.

01:43:22.000 Another one is not.

01:43:23.000 We got to go to Super Chats because we went a little long, but it's OK.

01:43:25.000 Make sure you go to TimCast.com.

01:43:27.000 Become a member if you haven't already, because we've got a ton of we got three full bonus episodes up just in the past week or so.

01:43:34.000 It's fantastic.

01:43:34.000 We got Sidney Watson.

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01:43:37.000 These are the guys who said no Biden voters allowed.

01:43:39.000 You can't buy the ammo.

01:43:40.000 And we got James O'Keefe as well, so we'll have a bonus segment up later.

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01:43:47.000 Let's read some Super Chats. 0.87

01:43:49.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:43:51.000 Krasen says, saw today on UK Channel 4 News, an interview with Enrique Tarrio was aired about January 6th.

01:43:57.000 What I found interesting, though, is they clearly used a filter to make him look white to trick Brits who know nothing about Proud Boys.

01:44:03.000 Is that true?

01:44:04.000 Did you guys hear that?

01:44:04.000 I didn't see that.

01:44:05.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:44:06.000 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either.

01:44:08.000 Eric Gresham says, look into China's 100 year plan, world domination type stuff.

01:44:12.000 Yes, I was actually working on a story when I was at Vice.

01:44:16.000 We talked about this quite a bit.

01:44:18.000 Never really came to fruition, though.

01:44:20.000 Chris Clark says, there was a vault surrounded by a town.

01:44:22.000 A bunch of waiters snuck into the vault, and said they were smart enough to be the overseer, took it over, and took all the weapons.

01:44:29.000 They control the vault now, and the town, the vault, was- was Facebook?

01:44:33.000 Was- is that a Fallout reference?

01:44:34.000 I'm not entirely sure.

01:44:36.000 Payne Cabal says, welcome to the not-playing Magic Club, Tim.

01:44:39.000 I figured MTG was pay-to-win after two games the week it came out.

01:44:43.000 Yep, yep, yep.

01:44:44.000 Rag on Magic the Gathering again.

01:44:47.000 Martin Edgar says, Tim, can you clarify if Crowder made reference to the votes from the fictitious, uh, votes were for a specific party or candidate?

01:44:54.000 I don't believe so, because, uh, so here's how it works.

01:44:57.000 Crowder did this, and Voter Integrity Project did this.

01:45:00.000 You can get access to publicly available voter information, people who voted.

01:45:04.000 You cannot see who they voted for.

01:45:06.000 So what happens is they pull up this information, get a list of addresses, and then, my understanding, I could be wrong, I think Crowder loaded up these addresses into a database checking whether or not you can deliver packages to them, and found a bunch that said you can't deliver packages to them, then went and investigated and found a bunch of parking lots, and, you know, there you go.

01:45:25.000 Then he tweeted about it, and he got temporarily suspended, you know, we'll see.

01:45:30.000 William Martin says, Hey Tim, are you going to upload the podcast from last Friday in full to YouTube?

01:45:34.000 I missed that one.

01:45:35.000 It won't be on YouTube because we can't re-upload, like, because it was live.

01:45:38.000 So they go live and they get published.

01:45:40.000 The clips are up, but we will have it on TimCast.com in a free area that I think we have ready to go.

01:45:46.000 Hopefully.

01:45:46.000 I just got to get it figured out.

01:45:47.000 We do have, uh, the website's getting totally redone.

01:45:50.000 We're just getting started.

01:45:52.000 It's only been about a month.

01:45:53.000 So, uh, thank you everybody who signed up.

01:45:56.000 Did you hear about that?

01:45:57.000 No, I haven't heard about that.

01:45:58.000 He's a good guy. Mark puts up barrier from the haters, but seriously, dr

01:46:03.000 Shiva won a case against Massachusetts and got them restrained from colluding with Twitter. Did you hear about that? Is

01:46:08.000 that I haven't heard about?

01:46:08.000 Yeah, I don't know about that Matthew Lutcher says Crowder caught a very damning sound

01:46:15.000 bite of biting yesterday and shows actual proof of fraud today and

01:46:18.000 It's not actual proof.

01:46:19.000 Crowder even said that.

01:46:21.000 He said it was evidence of fake voter addresses.

01:46:25.000 Well, actually, I could be wrong.

01:46:26.000 Maybe he did say fraud.

01:46:27.000 I don't think so.

01:46:27.000 I think he was very, very specific and precise for a reason.

01:46:30.000 When you're trying to prove something definitively, you have to make sure you're choosing the right words, which is why I don't even think, I'm pretty sure Matt Brainerd has never said fraud either.

01:46:39.000 He said potentially illegal ballots.

01:46:42.000 That's a very important distinction because you're, you want the courts to take it.

01:46:46.000 And like you were saying about legitimacy, if you come in and say these wild conspiracies, they're going to throw you out back.

01:46:50.000 I don't want to do, I don't want to be involved in this.

01:46:52.000 If you're very, well, it's just potential.

01:46:54.000 Maybe you could take a look.

01:46:55.000 They might come out and say, oh, I agree.

01:46:56.000 You know?

01:46:58.000 I'm not sure what that is.

01:47:00.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:47:00.000 Twilight says, Mike, what is your opinion of Raquetta Law?

01:47:03.000 I'm not sure what that is.

01:47:05.000 Uh, I think he's referring to the YouTuber.

01:47:07.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:47:09.000 Well, there you go.

01:47:10.000 Yeah.

01:47:10.000 Simple answer.

01:47:12.000 Let's see.

01:47:13.000 Let's move a little bit.

01:47:15.000 Tony Boy says, What good is a referee if the opposing side and the opposing fans ignore the ruling?

01:47:21.000 SCOTUS needs to enforce the rulings and laws that have been passed.

01:47:25.000 I think you mentioned they have no ability to enforce anything.

01:47:27.000 Exactly.

01:47:28.000 Exactly.

01:47:28.000 Right.

01:47:29.000 So who is supposed to enforce this?

01:47:32.000 Well, technically, court order is enforceable by U.S.

01:47:35.000 Marshals.

01:47:36.000 It would be enforceable as civil contempt, which would, you know, get federal, federal forces.

01:47:41.000 So the executive branch of the government would be the enforcement mechanism, which requires a soft power.

01:47:47.000 Neither power of personal sword is the way they put it.

01:47:51.000 Philip Kedick says, Tim, they aren't cages anymore.

01:47:54.000 They're shelters.

01:47:55.000 That's right.

01:47:57.000 SortaJumpey says, Tim, check out the Orville's Majority Rule episode.

01:48:03.000 The crew discovers a planet where society is governed by up and down votes.

01:48:06.000 After enough down votes, you get a brainwipe.

01:48:08.000 Scary look at our future.

01:48:09.000 Yeah, I saw that one.

01:48:10.000 That's what I love about the Orville.

01:48:12.000 You guys, have you seen it?

01:48:13.000 Seth MacFarlane's show?

01:48:14.000 Is that they're carrying on a bit of what the Next Generation did from Star Trek.

01:48:18.000 Philosophical.

01:48:19.000 It's almost like Black Mirror in a sense where they find these different worlds and they kind of ask the question of like, what would the society be like if we did these kinds of things?

01:48:27.000 So it's, you know, it's interesting stuff.

01:48:28.000 Good fun.

01:48:28.000 Good show.

01:48:29.000 Good for the family.

01:48:31.000 Big E says the left gets mad when you separate children from strangers.

01:48:33.000 They don't know.

01:48:34.000 What a surprise.

01:48:35.000 You know?

01:48:38.000 Lanius Shrike says, if Fauci just said spend more time in the sun, everyone would benefit.

01:48:43.000 He did say that.

01:48:44.000 Dr. Fauci did tell everybody to get more sunlight, vitamin D, because it's good for you and you need it.

01:48:50.000 So, gotta be fair, gotta be fair.

01:48:52.000 Gizmo79 says, we have universal healthcare.

01:48:55.000 If an adult or child breaks their arm or has dehydration from the flu, they can go to the ER and they cannot be refused care.

01:49:01.000 They can be bankrupt, man.

01:49:02.000 Come on, bro.

01:49:03.000 Yeah, they get bankrupted.

01:49:04.000 And then they garnish your wages, you get your credit destroyed, you can't rent, you can't buy property.

01:49:08.000 You know what's really crazy about the system?

01:49:11.000 You could be paying two grand a month in New York for rent and a bank will tell you, yeah, but we're not going to give you a thousand dollar a month mortgage because we don't think you, you know, you have the credit history for it.

01:49:21.000 Like, we don't trust you.

01:49:21.000 It's like, dude, I got to pay rent either way and I'm paying twice as much.

01:49:24.000 Let me buy the house. 0.99

01:49:25.000 I think that's dumb. 0.98

01:49:28.000 All right. 0.96

01:49:29.000 TP says... Good initials, by the way.

01:49:32.000 Hey, I know this is super off topic, but I was wondering if you know about or could raise awareness of Bill C-21 in Canada.

01:49:37.000 Gun owners losing their rights if this bill passes.

01:49:40.000 I don't know a lot about it.

01:49:41.000 Does anybody know about that one?

01:49:42.000 No?

01:49:42.000 Everyone's shaking their head.

01:49:43.000 Sorry, guys.

01:49:44.000 I guess we're not the Oracle tonight like we usually are.

01:49:48.000 Rogue says, Tim just lightly disparaged anime cat girls and I took that personally.

01:49:52.000 JK.

01:49:53.000 Wasn't like Elon Musk posting anime cat girls or something?

01:49:58.000 Matt L says, Antifa at least does something for their side.

01:50:01.000 That's true.

01:50:02.000 Yep.

01:50:02.000 That's true.

01:50:03.000 So you have Antifa on the left, actually going out, throwing temper tantrums, making demands, and they're getting what they want, right?

01:50:10.000 Kind of.

01:50:11.000 I think, I still, maybe I'm delusional, but I think they've done way more harm than good.

01:50:16.000 Oh, totally.

01:50:16.000 Yeah, I think they've allowed the more, everything now looks bad now because it's tied to Antifa, so I think they've done a lot more harm than good.

01:50:26.000 Yeah.

01:50:27.000 Nick Sweeney says, What happened to the I Am A Gorilla Love Yourself shirt?

01:50:31.000 I was holding out for that one.

01:50:32.000 Also, if you guys ever do a pop culture night, you should have on the guys from Clown... You should have the guys on from ClownfishTV.

01:50:38.000 I mean, we've had Jeremy from The Quartering, so we'll have him around.

01:50:42.000 He's a cool dude.

01:50:43.000 The I Am A Girl I Love Yourself shirt is just in the works.

01:50:46.000 I guess we have like one graphic designer who, you know, works on merch for the show.

01:50:49.000 And then I had to do the Our Pillow.

01:50:51.000 So like, we have a silly version from Teespring, where it's the Revolution Fist holding a pillow, and the my is crossed out, so it says our and not my.

01:50:59.000 But we actually do have just over there behind Ian, we've got the official Our Pillow.

01:51:04.000 Oh, you can see it!

01:51:04.000 There it is!

01:51:05.000 Yeah, look at that!

01:51:06.000 There it is.

01:51:06.000 That's the burlap sack full of packing peanuts, and we used paperclips to keep it shut.

01:51:10.000 Fancy.

01:51:10.000 And I am not joking.

01:51:12.000 I fully intend to buy a commercial on Fox News, and there have been movements made in that direction.

01:51:19.000 I have contacted the appropriate agencies.

01:51:24.000 They said so long as it's a real commercial, they don't care.

01:51:26.000 If I want to spend the money, then it's fine.

01:51:28.000 And we're working on putting the commercial together.

01:51:30.000 I think it'll be a whole lot of fun, and I think it'll be good for everybody.

01:51:33.000 Good for everybody.

01:51:37.000 Matt L says, what's Luke's thought on Bobby Fischer and his calls?

01:51:41.000 I'm not aware of that situation, but let me know of that situation by tweeting at me.

01:51:45.000 Bobby Fischer, the chess player?

01:51:46.000 That's who I thought, yeah, Bobby Fischer.

01:51:48.000 I don't know what's up with these superchats.

01:51:50.000 They're very descriptive.

01:51:51.000 Yes, I love it.

01:51:52.000 Kaypok says, Tim is right.

01:51:53.000 I watch my favorite YouTube channels on my TV.

01:51:55.000 I usually don't need to chime in and I don't want to engage with the haters and chat.

01:51:59.000 Yeah.

01:52:00.000 Yep.

01:52:01.000 That's the gist of it.

01:52:02.000 I think a lot of people, you know.

01:52:03.000 I noticed that, too.

01:52:05.000 My engagement got really low, and then when I released Hoaxed a year ago, I was like, oh man, I wonder if the film's gonna flop.

01:52:11.000 And it actually did way better than I even thought my projections were, so it's like not even a silent majority anymore.

01:52:16.000 It's like a silent 99% of people who just like your stuff and support it when it matters and don't say anything good or bad.

01:52:24.000 Yeah.

01:52:25.000 Track Media Only says, Time claimed a conspiracy occurred.

01:52:28.000 How many other things faked to help win?

01:52:30.000 Does it take to show another or part of the same?

01:52:34.000 So much fear of a word that when one could be true, it is dismissed.

01:52:37.000 They win by that fear.

01:52:39.000 Proof a la time.

01:52:42.000 You know, can I answer that real quick, which is, if you go back to the JFK election with Richard Nixon, none of the stuff, this is again, that's a first-time voter right there, who doesn't realize, if you've read history, if you looked at Bush versus Gore, this is always going to happen, it's just shenanigans.

01:52:58.000 But the idea that it's R-I-G-G-E-D, Puts too much weight on it.

01:53:03.000 You have two people on either side, there's going to be shenanigans everywhere you look at, and that's the elections, every election.

01:53:09.000 Even Bill Barr said there was fraud.

01:53:11.000 Just not that they've seen that could have any serious impact.

01:53:14.000 But it's true, I mean, it was Paxton, was it, in Texas, I think?

01:53:16.000 That woman got arrested and charged. 1.00

01:53:18.000 Then there was even a video that was put out by, I think, some progressives, where it was a woman who claimed to have voted for Trump twice.

01:53:26.000 Yeah, and that's what frustrates me, I guess, is that somebody kind of plugged into how it really works.

01:53:34.000 Ballot harvesting was what did it, but the James O'Keefe videos, for example, ballot harvesting was being way overdone, but they were still actually real ballots.

01:53:45.000 Now, was it a nurse filling out the balance of Alzheimer's patients?

01:53:52.000 I would like to know, but guess what?

01:53:54.000 We can't know because everybody's so fixated on that one word, and you have to have that one word as the grand metanarrative for what happened, whereas instead you could say, like, well, I don't know.

01:54:02.000 Did this happen?

01:54:03.000 Let's look into that.

01:54:04.000 Well, people were easily distracted by the sensational.

01:54:07.000 And that's what my problem was.

01:54:08.000 I was like, dude, stop talking about the fringe weirdo stuff and just talk about the Supreme Court case on the legitimacy of, you know, or the Elector's Clause.

01:54:16.000 That's your key right there, the Elector's Clause.

01:54:19.000 But instead what happens is, you know, people will scream the most crazy conspiracy about server attacks and shootouts and people prefer the, you know, the crazy, shocking conspiracy narrative because it's fun.

01:54:29.000 I guess life is boring.

01:54:31.000 I think you might have a stink bug on your microphone stand.

01:54:33.000 No, not on you.

01:54:35.000 On the stand, just so you know.

01:54:36.000 In case Chad starts going crazy about it.

01:54:39.000 I thought I had a Mike Pence moment.

01:54:40.000 There was a fly.

01:54:44.000 Brown Bear says, Tim, it's referencing me saying it is a standalone complex and Time Magazine saying it is not a standalone complex.

01:54:50.000 This is the funny thing.

01:54:51.000 So I have an update on that Poynter Institute calling me out or lying about me.

01:54:58.000 So for those unfamiliar, Poynter Institute essentially runs the organization that determines who is allowed to be a fact-checker on Facebook.

01:55:06.000 They created a post where they said Twitter's fact-checking system has got problems.

01:55:10.000 Why?

01:55:11.000 Because Tim Pool made a post which said the election was rigged.

01:55:14.000 That's actually not true.

01:55:16.000 The post literally says Time Magazine claimed a cabal of elites rigged the election.

01:55:21.000 I'm sorry, they didn't say it was rigged, they said it was fortified.

01:55:24.000 Quite literally, the post says it wasn't rigged.

01:55:26.000 Well, they claimed I posted the opposite, which is just factually not correct.

01:55:30.000 Then they complained that Twitter's users Noted correctly on my post.

01:55:36.000 It was not misleading because I was just being snarky and referencing a Time Magazine article.

01:55:40.000 So, another outlet recently did a update, made a correction, and I'm eternally grateful for the correction.

01:55:46.000 It was the right thing to do.

01:55:48.000 And it flipped the article, which now, they wrote the same thing Poynter did, but with this correction, it inverted the narrative.

01:55:54.000 Now they're writing about how Pointer misframed my tweet, which was accurate and their post was wrong.

01:56:00.000 And so it's weirdly criticizing Birdwatch while recognizing they were correct and it worked.

01:56:06.000 The funny thing is, I sent this to another journalist at one of these prominent fact-checking organizations.

01:56:13.000 Here's the update.

01:56:14.000 And there's a funny bit of a realization in this.

01:56:18.000 If I message one of these prominent journalists and say, hey, here's my tweet, that's not true, they'll say, screw off.

01:56:24.000 But when I showed him a screenshot that said, correction, Tim's actual tweet referenced Time Magazine, he did not say this himself, they went, oh.

01:56:32.000 You see how that works?

01:56:33.000 Simply having it in text from some other journalist, they'll blindly believe it without facts.

01:56:39.000 Okay, but I'll teach you the life hack.

01:56:40.000 So the life hack is they know that their Twitter DMs aren't discoverable in a lawsuit.

01:56:45.000 So what I do is I always find out who their lawyers were on their previous... I go way out of my way to do this stuff.

01:56:50.000 So you want to paper trail them.

01:56:52.000 So anytime they do that, rather than message the reporter, message the general counsel of the media holding company that owns it.

01:56:59.000 Include the lawyer and the CC, then include the editor-in-chief, because then what will happen is if something like Covington happens and people sue, that's why CNN settled the lawsuit.

01:57:07.000 They'll go and be like, oh, look, you know, you did this to everybody.

01:57:10.000 You've done it a hundred times.

01:57:11.000 So I don't even bother with Twitter DMs.

01:57:12.000 I go right to HR.

01:57:13.000 I go right to the general counsel.

01:57:15.000 Oh, no, I didn't DM anybody.

01:57:17.000 I'm sorry.

01:57:18.000 I'm sorry.

01:57:18.000 The DM was to a journalist as I wasn't asking the journalist for a correction.

01:57:22.000 I was like, hey, and update it for the record.

01:57:23.000 The correction I got because I literally sent an email in much the way you described.

01:57:27.000 Right, okay, gotcha.

01:57:28.000 I was very polite and I said, you know, I appreciate your time.

01:57:30.000 I humbly request that you simply make the correction.

01:57:33.000 Thank you very much.

01:57:34.000 With respect.

01:57:34.000 When you're using snark in, like, tweets, how does it work?

01:57:38.000 Because if I was like, Luke Rutkowski murdered some murdered random person.

01:57:42.000 I'll pick a person and I'll say it.

01:57:44.000 Oh no, he didn't actually murder him.

01:57:45.000 He just said he didn't like him.

01:57:47.000 Right.

01:57:48.000 Would I be liable for saying that Luke murdered someone?

01:57:51.000 Okay, so their quick defamation law of that would be is they look at two things in addition to tone.

01:57:57.000 They look at the form.

01:57:58.000 So it's almost impossible to defame someone on Twitter.

01:58:00.000 It has to be really specific.

01:58:03.000 And it can't just be colorful language.

01:58:05.000 It would have to be something like Luke's friend told me that he tried to stab his friend.

01:58:11.000 And that gives it a certain condition of credibility.

01:58:14.000 That's why when Elon Musk, remember he called that guy pedo guy?

01:58:17.000 Yeah.

01:58:17.000 People were surprised that that even went to trial.

01:58:20.000 Because it's like, I mean, he's on Twitter and he called someone a pedo.

01:58:22.000 That's kind of like what happens on Twitter.

01:58:25.000 But the forum changes.

01:58:26.000 But if it's in the New York Times, then that's considered a more serious forum and they have to be more careful.

01:58:32.000 But as a general rule, you never want a statement of fact versus opinion.

01:58:37.000 So, you know, you're a terrible person, it's like a moral judgment.

01:58:40.000 But if you accuse someone of a very specific crime with enough detail that it has an indicia that it would be a truthful thing that you knew about, that's when you get jammed.

01:58:49.000 There's also really, really clever tactics that they use.

01:58:52.000 They love doing this thing where they'll name somebody and then add, like, a comma and then some descriptor that makes no sense.

01:58:59.000 So, like, uh, Mike Cernovich once went to an ice cream shop and he dropped his vanilla ice cream on the floor and a little kid slipped and fell and busted his skull open.

01:59:10.000 What they'll do is, Mike Cernovich, comma, who once took actions which resulted in busting open a child's skull, comma, was seen at the park today.

01:59:17.000 And that's the truth.

01:59:18.000 It's a statement of fact, and they're allowed to say it.

01:59:19.000 Yeah, that's why they also play the association game.

01:59:23.000 So, so-and-so, comma, who's associated with, comma, who's associated with white nationalism, or whatever you want to insert.

01:59:30.000 That's what they do. 0.65

01:59:30.000 It's a very dirty game. 0.65

01:59:32.000 I call it, like, the parenthetical of death, but that's also, too, why the media has lost its soft power.

01:59:36.000 I was talking to Will about this, so I'll ask your opinion.

01:59:41.000 If someone defames you, and it's an overt false statement of fact they won't correct, what if you just defamed them to a more extreme degree with a very serious statement of fact to force discovery?

01:59:53.000 Well, yeah, you just force... So that's a tactic?

01:59:57.000 Yeah, that would be the tactic, which is let everybody go under oath.

02:00:01.000 Because I've had people... Fortunately, I've never defamed anyone.

02:00:04.000 Because the things they say that I've defamed people on, like the P-I-G-A-T-E thing, I'm like, well, why was it never issued a retraction?

02:00:12.000 Because I've actually been defamed in terms of how they described my role in a certain thing that happened on the internet, and I won't say the words to get you flagged or whatever.

02:00:20.000 But that's the idea.

02:00:22.000 The idea is if somebody says, Tempool is blank, you could just say, well, you know what, I don't know if I can sue you for this, but I'll just say something about you.

02:00:29.000 Now you go ahead and sue me, tough guy, and let's all go under oath.

02:00:31.000 And then I'll get all your documents.

02:00:33.000 And I'm glad to go under oath with you, yeah.

02:00:35.000 So I was talking about this because the thing is, when it comes to discovery, there's a certain chain of communications that will be allowed.

02:00:41.000 If someone defames you through an editorial process, there's a lot of discovery there.

02:00:45.000 But if you just come out with no editorial process and make your statement, you know on your end you've got nothing to lose in a discovery, whereas they might actually have something more serious.

02:00:54.000 Yeah, I've had people threaten me all the time.

02:00:56.000 That's one reason I live in California, it has what's called an anti-slap law, which is if they sue you and you win, they have to pay your legal fees where in other states they don't have to. 0.89

02:01:05.000 Because I'm like, look man, I say what I believe.

02:01:09.000 And if I believe something... I think the first time we talked, I'm in Berkeley, You would have been like, oh yeah, you said this thing about Black Lives Matter, and it was actually not true, and then I told you it wasn't true, and you're like, okay, am I bad, and I corrected it.

02:01:22.000 Because what I say I believe to be true, and if you tell me no, actually it's not true, and here's why it's not true, then of course I'm going to delete it and change it.

02:01:29.000 That's probably why, in a way, the media is so jarring to me, because if you're just a human being... I've even deleted things that were true that were harming a person's Google results.

02:01:39.000 I tweeted about AOC's timeline when she was lying about what happened at the Capitol, and she lied.

02:01:44.000 Yep, she did.

02:01:45.000 And I had a HuffPost journalist DM me saying, you're wrong, you're spreading misinformation.

02:01:49.000 And so I looked into it and was like, I better take this down, you know, because, like, that's, you know, I think he's right.

02:01:54.000 And after doing a deep investigation, I followed up saying, here's the real facts.

02:01:59.000 And he was like, oh, oh, yeah, I was wrong.

02:02:01.000 Long story short, AOC claimed that she thought they got in a full hour before anyone had actually stormed any part of any building.

02:02:10.000 So you had a bunch of Trump supporters outside yelling rabble, and then she was claiming that they broke into, like, that made no sense.

02:02:15.000 Her timeline was way off.

02:02:17.000 But I digress.

02:02:17.000 I try not to.

02:02:18.000 But if we're digressing, I try not to talk about her too much.

02:02:20.000 But did you see the fact check where people were quoting her saying that protest isn't supposed to be comfortable?

02:02:28.000 And then she tried to get a fact checker to say, well, AOC actually never said that, even though she said it.

02:02:34.000 Yeah.

02:02:34.000 And some of the fact checkers that go along with that were like, oh, well, she meant something completely different.

02:02:39.000 Let's read this big ol' super chat from JMac.

02:02:41.000 He says, I work from home and have been the primary stay-at-home parent since I left the military.

02:02:46.000 Parenting is all about teamwork, and parents should figure out what works for them.

02:02:50.000 It also helps to have a good scale of masculine and feminine traits for your kids to pick up on, even in gay couples.

02:02:56.000 Interesting.

02:02:58.000 Akipat says, Luke, you mentioned emotional manipulation via media repetition conditioning.

02:03:02.000 So true.

02:03:03.000 Much of this past year has been direct foreign media influence, namely China.

02:03:07.000 Let's not forget how this all started this time last year.

02:03:10.000 It's also pretty scary the influence that China has on not just entertainment, but the news business and how many news executives are afraid to even, you know, voice their concerns about anything China's doing.

02:03:22.000 Well, it's concentration media ownership.

02:03:24.000 That's what's funny is how the right and the left have switched, where everybody, it was like a left-wing talking point, at least when I was in college, you'd buy like ad busters.

02:03:32.000 And the idea was that six media conglomerates ordered everything.

02:03:36.000 And so if you're NBC News, are you going to say anything that's going to put NBCUniversal into peril with China?

02:03:42.000 Are you going to disrupt the next Disneyland if you're downstream of ABC?

02:03:47.000 And the answer is like, of course not.

02:03:48.000 But we're all supposed to pretend.

02:03:49.000 So that's where the influence of two arises.

02:03:52.000 All right, we got Stankly Balls says, Tim, honestly, how are the Appalachian Mountains?

02:03:57.000 How would you compare it to the Rockies besides prices and height?

02:04:00.000 It's funny how due to COVID, the new economic powerhouses are in Florida and Texas and New York and CA are broke.

02:04:05.000 Florida and Texas and New York and CA are broke.

02:04:07.000 Uh, the Appalachian Mountains are green and beautiful.

02:04:09.000 Well, not right now.

02:04:09.000 It's mostly white with snow.

02:04:12.000 Yeah, the Rockies are just rocks.

02:04:13.000 Yep.

02:04:13.000 It's rocks.

02:04:14.000 It's not fun.

02:04:15.000 I've driven through them many times.

02:04:17.000 I mean, it's beautiful to look at rocks, you know.

02:04:20.000 Used to go to the Rockies, you know, look at all that stuff.

02:04:22.000 It's fun.

02:04:23.000 But when you're on the East Coast, a lot of rain, a lot of trees, a lot of animals.

02:04:27.000 Ticks.

02:04:28.000 A lot of, yeah.

02:04:29.000 Yeah, and if you get up north, you get black flies, I guess.

02:04:31.000 Is that what they're called?

02:04:33.000 I was looking at Maine, and people are like, don't do it because you'll get bit in the summer.

02:04:36.000 It's really awful.

02:04:37.000 Yeah, because you want to be by the water.

02:04:39.000 It's idyllic, and then you realize you're getting attacked by it.

02:04:42.000 You're getting attacked by other forms of life.

02:04:45.000 Casey Finnegan says the Canadian government had a vote on whether to designate the CCP as committing genocide against the Uyghurs.

02:04:52.000 Justin Trudeau and his whole cabinet abstained from voting.

02:04:55.000 What is that?

02:04:55.000 True.

02:04:56.000 It's true, but I don't know if I don't know if there's a reason that they had to abstain, though, because it was I think it was a unanimous vote.

02:05:03.000 So that I think that's something like a parliamentary procedure that I have to look into before I had an opinion.

02:05:08.000 Yeah.

02:05:09.000 Yeah.

02:05:09.000 Trudeau's comments on China are very eye opening.

02:05:12.000 Barry Kitchen says, 12 years Army Ranger vet here.

02:05:15.000 Started watching you roughly 5 months ago.

02:05:17.000 Seen you on Rogan.

02:05:18.000 Well done.

02:05:18.000 Just wanted to say much respect to you.

02:05:20.000 Greatly appreciate it.

02:05:20.000 Thank you.

02:05:22.000 Gizmo79 says, very rarely does a hospital turn ER bills to creditors.

02:05:26.000 Most are written off of their taxes.

02:05:28.000 Interesting.

02:05:29.000 I have heard that.

02:05:31.000 They sell it to debt collectors on pennies on the dollar, and then the debt collectors go after people, and then maybe the debt collectors, because you're only buying it pennies on the dollar, let people go.

02:05:40.000 But there's absolutely medical bankruptcies.

02:05:43.000 A lot of this happens.

02:05:44.000 One of the leading causes of bankruptcy is medical bankruptcy.

02:05:46.000 Come on, people! 0.72

02:05:47.000 Come at me with the facts!

02:05:49.000 Yeah, man.

02:05:50.000 That's, you know... I was thinking about... Do you remember when Occupy Wall Street did that thing where they bought up all that medical debt?

02:05:57.000 Yep.

02:05:58.000 That was cool.

02:05:59.000 And it's very simple.

02:05:59.000 They just said, give us some donations, and then... It's like for every dollar, it's like $100 of debt wiped clean.

02:06:04.000 Like, I like that idea.

02:06:06.000 I don't know if it's a long-term solution, but at least it can provide some relief to some people who are suffering, you know what I mean?

02:06:11.000 Yeah, and it's a better way of using money than, you know, anything else.

02:06:13.000 So yeah, that's where I would look at practical solutions, because the only reason that I would be quote-unquote against universal healthcare is because you still have the principal agency issue where I don't believe you can justly order a doctor to perform services at certain wages and who pays for it.

02:06:28.000 So the weeds are complicated.

02:06:29.000 The one thing we have to bring up is, like, Are we gonna be paying for people who are unhealthy?

02:06:34.000 You know, who are eating poorly, not exercising, laying around, getting sick, and then it's gonna be a burden for literally everybody.

02:06:39.000 It's a challenge because we don't want people to die, but people gotta have some responsibilities, you know?

02:06:43.000 Yeah, they're kids, I mean, there's a lot, like, my solution would be kind of like, I call it cancer and kids.

02:06:49.000 So, like, if you have a sick kid, man, I don't care if you're, like, a bad parent.

02:06:53.000 It's not the kid's fault.

02:06:54.000 And then if you have some kind of unforeseen cancer or something like that, then, you know, there'd obviously be gradations.

02:07:00.000 But if you, you know, if you eat yourself into a diabetic coma, I don't know, man.

02:07:04.000 We're a different situation.

02:07:05.000 Alright, so WP says, Mike, I listened to Guerrilla Mindset on a solo road trip in 2019.

02:07:10.000 It was eye-opening.

02:07:11.000 I was able to get my hands on Danger and Play.

02:07:13.000 What's the true story?

02:07:14.000 Was it really banned?

02:07:15.000 I didn't find it offensive.

02:07:17.000 No, the book wasn't banned.

02:07:18.000 The books have a certain life cycle to them.

02:07:22.000 And when a book stops selling, I just usually pull it.

02:07:25.000 Because then you can re-release it and there's more hype behind it.

02:07:30.000 I almost pulled Guerrilla Mindset, but then it got enrolled in this great on Kindle program, so I didn't.

02:07:35.000 Just from a marketing perspective, Guerrilla Mindset lived out its life cycle.

02:07:39.000 And it did really well.

02:07:41.000 And if I pull it for a year or two, and then I re-release it, It's gonna do way more in a month than it would have done in two years.

02:07:49.000 Yeah.

02:07:49.000 And then some.

02:07:50.000 So you always want to pull things and re-release it.

02:07:52.000 Even though they're digital goods and that's counterintuitive.

02:07:55.000 Polani Casey says, I'm a full-time ER nurse with a family of four and I'm the sole financial provider.

02:08:01.000 I did nursing school as a single mom.

02:08:03.000 I want to be a homemaker.

02:08:04.000 Feminism made me believe homemaking was less. 1.00

02:08:06.000 Say no to toxic masculinity. 1.00

02:08:09.000 Wait, what was that again?

02:08:10.000 They didn't?

02:08:12.000 She likes being a homemaker? 1.00

02:08:13.000 She wants to be a homemaker, but feminism made her believe homemaking was less. 1.00

02:08:17.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

02:08:18.000 I mean, like I said, I deal with that just in my own personal life, where Shauna was insecure about being a stay-at-home mom.

02:08:25.000 So I call myself a stay-at-home dad, actually.

02:08:26.000 So if you watch my streams, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm just a stay-at-home dad to try to get away from that stigma.

02:08:32.000 We were talking about this months and months ago, and I referenced Family Guy.

02:08:36.000 Because there's an episode about this where Lois Griffin, you know, encounters some businesswoman who looks down on her because she's a homemaker.

02:08:43.000 I use pop culture references because, surprise, surprise, how many people watch Family Guy and watch his movies and understand what these references are and find it relatable?

02:08:52.000 But this is what, like, the left loves to do.

02:08:53.000 They like to use that as some sort of, like, they have this, like, pseudo-intellectual or academic nature to the way they communicate, as if it's, like, better than you.

02:09:02.000 And by all means, go for it.

02:09:03.000 I look at how Trump was able to pull off one of the greatest media manipulations I've ever seen, ordering that, you know, dry aged steak with ketchup.

02:09:11.000 Well done.

02:09:12.000 And then the media mocked and insulted him.

02:09:15.000 And it was like telling middle America, like they were mocking and insulting you as well.

02:09:20.000 So I'm like, listen, I'm here to talk to regular people who watch regular TV shows who are like, yeah, oh, I get that.

02:09:25.000 I've seen that.

02:09:26.000 If you want to come out and act high and mighty and academic, like you're smarter than everybody, you just isolate yourself.

02:09:31.000 So by all means, go ahead and do it.

02:09:33.000 Yeah, I just don't watch anything.

02:09:34.000 So, but luckily I watched a lot of TV when I was younger, so I get the Family Guy references, the Married With Children kind of stuff.

02:09:40.000 Oh, Married With Children was the worst. 0.66

02:09:42.000 You know what I really hated was Ed, Edd n Eddy.

02:09:43.000 You guys ever see that show?

02:09:45.000 It's a kid, it was a cartoon on Cartoon Network, I remember when I was a kid.

02:09:48.000 I was like, it's a show about three kids who are losers, just absolute losers, who always fail and everyone hates them.

02:09:53.000 And I was like, what an awful show. 0.98

02:09:55.000 Just like, what's with these miserable cartoons where people are just losers? 0.93

02:10:00.000 And again, that's the programming though.

02:10:02.000 That's why my views on representation minorities would probably be shocking to people because there's more left wing, which representation does matter, but it works like both ways too.

02:10:11.000 You shouldn't represent men as schlubby guys get henpecked by a wife because that's sending a bad message about family too.

02:10:18.000 So yeah, but representation does matter.

02:10:19.000 At least Beavis and Butthead were content.

02:10:22.000 We have a very important message from Dingus Malingus.

02:10:26.000 It says, Hi Tim, I'm about your age.

02:10:28.000 And when I was in high school, the messaging was that having a baby would ruin your life in order to prevent teen pregnancies.

02:10:33.000 Maybe that sentiment carried into adulthood.

02:10:35.000 I think it absolutely did.

02:10:36.000 Good point.

02:10:37.000 Maybe it did.

02:10:38.000 To me, I didn't have, my first kid was 38 and I'm like, man, I should have started earlier, man.

02:10:42.000 Why'd I take, cause I really thought like you have a kid, it ruins your life.

02:10:45.000 Like, why would I give up my freedom?

02:10:48.000 Because that's the idea is you're giving up your freedom, but you're getting love and you're giving love and you're opening up your heart and your reality is something different.

02:10:55.000 But yeah, I fell for that.

02:10:58.000 I'll tell you this, you know, it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy is what like 50 years when you've got a bunch of these millennials who are Get getting older, you know developing dementia and other you know, cognitive cognitive decline and they've got nobody there It's what are you gonna do?

02:11:14.000 Like right right now?

02:11:15.000 It's really easy for a lot of these, you know, single Millennials to just hang out with their buddies but when you are all entering the downward, the back end of the bell curve for your life, you need someone to take care of you.

02:11:28.000 I think about this a lot because I don't have kids.

02:11:30.000 I'm 41.

02:11:30.000 I don't really want kids or plan on it.

02:11:33.000 And I think like Socrates didn't have kids, but he had the tribe and they supported him.

02:11:38.000 And he had like friends and like even the young, he had the kids of the Greco kids would follow him around, the 12 year olds. 1.00

02:11:44.000 And he would tell them the truth.

02:11:45.000 Listen, all of these 80 year old millennials will vote for government assistance.

02:11:52.000 Well, you'll have good home care.

02:11:55.000 You'll have enough money saved up by then.

02:11:58.000 And who knows, you might be 50.

02:11:59.000 That's the thing.

02:12:00.000 That's where, talking about the gender stuff earlier, that's where the game is rigged in favor of men.

02:12:06.000 If you're 50 and you're like, alright, I'm gonna marry a 30-year-old and I'm gonna have three kids.

02:12:11.000 Or an 18-year-old.

02:12:12.000 Yeah, well, you know, I try to keep it a little family-friendly.

02:12:15.000 It's totally legal and socially acceptable for a 58-year-old to marry an 18-year-old.

02:12:18.000 It's not socially acceptable.

02:12:19.000 It's not socially acceptable.

02:12:20.000 If you got money, it is.

02:12:21.000 No, it isn't.

02:12:22.000 There's still a stigma.

02:12:24.000 It's kind of crazy, but it is.

02:12:25.000 There's memes every single day mocking Leonardo DiCaprio for constantly dating the same woman and dumping him at the same age.

02:12:31.000 It's not socially acceptable.

02:12:32.000 I'm not judgey-judgey.

02:12:33.000 I'm just saying I'm not judgey-judgey.

02:12:35.000 I'm just saying that If you're 50, I doubt you're going to want to have children with an 18-year-old.

02:12:39.000 I think you'd lose your mind.

02:12:41.000 Yeah, I have no interest in dating an 18-year-old.

02:12:42.000 This was actually part of OkCupid's data.

02:12:44.000 They found that... I'm not going to get into the really creepy findings they published because it was nightmarishly disgusting.

02:12:50.000 But what they said was that when it comes to any man of any age, the reason why they choose 22 is not because it's the ideal age.

02:12:59.000 It's the ideal combination of maturity and youthful vigor.

02:13:04.000 There's a big difference between an 18-year-old and a 22-year-old.

02:13:07.000 Okay, okay, he would put out because the age actually goes a bit further down

02:13:11.000 Yeah, creepy, but when they were like when they would ask a guy would you date an 18 year old?

02:13:16.000 They'd be like oh no way because it's like it's a big difference between 18 year old and a 22 year old

02:13:21.000 Definitely just a human brain changes so much. I mean you're totally mature to 23

02:13:26.000 They say is when you're like your body's fully mature well And women mature a little bit quicker than men, too.

02:13:31.000 So a 22-year-old woman, on average, is going to be—or girl, whatever you call them—is going to be more mature than a 22-year-old guy, for sure, too.

02:13:41.000 But if you're 15, 18, even 10 years, which is the gap between me and Shauna, is about as much as I could do.

02:13:48.000 Well, with that being said, I think we will have you all smash that like button, go to TimCast.com, because in about an hour or so we'll have the bigger segment on probably one of the most important and pressing issues that has happened in the past couple of years.

02:14:01.000 I don't want to get too much into it because YouTube is insane, but Cernovich was one of the legal parties to blowing the lid on the whole Epstein case, and that's correct, right?

02:14:11.000 Yeah, yeah, the law degree came in handy.

02:14:14.000 You know, a lot of things that, you know, like I could explain the institutional mindset of John Roberts, the FC thing.

02:14:21.000 Yeah, we'll get into all that.

02:14:21.000 We're going to get into all this in a bonus segment where we're going to get pretty serious and probably a lot of like, you know, family unfriendly things to say.

02:14:27.000 So go to TimCast.com, become a member.

02:14:29.000 That should be up hopefully in about an hour or so.

02:14:31.000 Make sure you smash that like button.

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02:14:40.000 This show is live Monday to Friday at 8 p.m., so make sure you like, share, subscribe, tell all your friends about it.

02:14:45.000 Mike, is there anything you wanted to mention?

02:14:47.000 Well, you know, Buy Guerrilla Mindset is actually a great mindset book, and I wouldn't have to pull some kind of marketing gimmick and re-release it, you know?

02:14:54.000 Yeah, and they have a gorilla here.

02:14:56.000 It's a great looking gorilla.

02:14:59.000 And we should bundle the I am a gorilla t-shirt.

02:15:03.000 If you look at the magazine, we're proud of the book cover.

02:15:06.000 Shauna designed it, so you're actually supporting stay-at-home moms, you're supporting women. 0.56

02:15:10.000 It's a very feminist thing. 1.00

02:15:12.000 It's just a win all around.

02:15:15.000 You're a great marketer.

02:15:16.000 I'm also tweeting up a storm on LukeWeAreChange, and I'm pretty close to getting 700,000 YouTube subscribers, so go to youtube.com forward slash WeAreChange if you're not subscribed yet.

02:15:26.000 Even if you are subscribed, check it out because a lot of people are being unsubscribed to WeAreChange on YouTube.

02:15:31.000 I did a very informative video about reproductive rates, testosterone levels, and the depopulation that's happening on my YouTube channel today.

02:15:40.000 It's definitely interesting.

02:15:40.000 Go check it out.

02:15:41.000 WeAreChange YouTube.

02:15:43.000 Oh, hello.

02:15:45.000 I was just checking out Mike's book.

02:15:47.000 You can also follow me on at iancrossland.net.

02:15:49.000 You can check out all my social networks.

02:15:51.000 You can get there through there.

02:15:52.000 Hit me up on Mines and follow me on twitch.tv slash iancrossland where I will be going live to play some video games with Adam Krigler and more.

02:16:00.000 Very excited.

02:16:01.000 Very cool.

02:16:02.000 And I am Sour Patch Lids.

02:16:03.000 I push all the buttons in the corner and add unnecessary comments at intervals.

02:16:07.000 I am Real Sour Patch Lids on Twitter and Mines.

02:16:10.000 And I am... Oh, no, no.

02:16:11.000 I'm Real Sour Patch Lids on Instagram and Gab.

02:16:14.000 And then I'm Sour Patch Lids on Twitter and Mines.

02:16:17.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com for the much more serious, exclusive episode.

02:16:22.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:16:23.000 We'll see you then.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 24, 2021

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