Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - TX Deploys NATIONAL GUARD To BLOCK Biden Illegal Immigration Agents w-Laura Loomer

00:00:00.000 We are here, ladies and gentlemen, in Iowa, only a few days out from the Iowa caucus where

00:00:16.000 I think it's fair to say Donald Trump is going to win.

00:00:18.000 But, you know, I guess people are here trying to beat him.

00:00:23.000 Now, right now, there's a blizzard.

00:00:24.000 They're calling it a once-in-a-decade blizzard.

00:00:26.000 I think It's not even a big deal.

00:00:28.000 You know, I'm from Chicago, I'm walking around, there's snow everywhere, and all these stores are shut down.

00:00:34.000 We walk down to a restaurant to get lunch, they're closed, and I'm like, okay, well, you know, I respect it.

00:00:38.000 People, they're trying to be safe.

00:00:40.000 To be fair, it's like crazy white-out conditions.

00:00:43.000 You're driving on the highway, there's drift, you can't really see, but I feel like the people of Iowa can handle this.

00:00:48.000 It's not that big a deal.

00:00:49.000 But it is pretty wild, considering that you have someone like Ron DeSantis currently here, when there's a state of emergency going on in Florida over the flooding.

00:00:57.000 So it is interesting, considering Donald Trump's gonna win.

00:00:59.000 But we're talking about the news first, before we get into all the caucus stuff.

00:01:02.000 There's a huge story, we got the report from the Post Millennial.

00:01:04.000 Texas deployed armed National Guard soldiers.

00:01:08.000 A DOJ filing says that armed soldiers were deployed by the National Guard to block CBP from accessing the river.

00:01:14.000 This is worrisome, because we have talked about that quite a bit on the show.

00:01:17.000 What happens when Texas deploys its own, I mean, this is National Guard, this is military forces, against federal officers, federal agents, to prevent them from facilitating their human smuggling and illegal immigration operation?

00:01:31.000 It's getting serious.

00:01:32.000 We'll talk about that.

00:01:32.000 We've got other big news.

00:01:34.000 Tucker Carlson tweeted out, American journalist Gonzalo Lira, who was captured, arrested, in Ukraine for reporting, is reportedly dead.

00:01:43.000 And this is killed because of the shocking actions by Ukrainians. 1.00

00:01:49.000 An American citizen died in their custody, so we'll talk about that.

00:01:52.000 And of course, we've got this really great anti-endorsement from Rand Paul.

00:01:57.000 He made a meme, Netflix Presents Hillary, and it's a picture of Nikki Haley, and he launches Never Nikki.

00:02:02.000 So we'll talk about what's going on with all of that.

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00:03:35.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Laura Loomer.

00:03:38.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:39.000 It's great to be here with you in this blizzard.

00:03:41.000 If you made it, speak up closer to the mic, please.

00:03:43.000 It's great to be here in Iowa.

00:03:45.000 We made it through the blizzard and your car got stuck.

00:03:48.000 Yes, the car got stuck twice today, but thank God there's two genders because pushing vehicles and shoveling snow is for men. 1.00

00:03:57.000 And they do that.

00:03:57.000 I'm a woman.

00:03:58.000 I'm a woman.

00:03:58.000 I don't do that.

00:03:59.000 And so, thank you to the real alpha males who were so kind today when they saw us stranded in our car who pushed the SUV.

00:03:59.000 Well, there you go.

00:04:07.000 Right on.

00:04:07.000 Really nice.

00:04:08.000 Iowa nice.

00:04:08.000 Iowa nice people.

00:04:09.000 Just a bunch of random dudes got out and helped.

00:04:11.000 Yeah, it was really nice.

00:04:12.000 So I have my crew here with me from Bloomer Unleashed, and then there were a couple guys who just rolled up in their pickup truck, and they were just so prepared, you know?

00:04:20.000 It's just very alpha male behavior.

00:04:22.000 Right on.

00:04:23.000 You've got a bunch of videos already out of Iowa.

00:04:25.000 You confronted Ron DeSantis, and there's some interesting questions about...

00:04:31.000 I brought it up already.

00:04:32.000 Ron being here during a state of emergency in his own state.

00:04:34.000 We'll get into all that.

00:04:35.000 But also, you being kicked out of Nikki Haley's event, and also Ron's event too, right?

00:04:42.000 Yeah, so I showed up to Nikki Haley's event.

00:04:44.000 I've been in town since last Friday, and I've been covering all the different events.

00:04:47.000 I was at Trump rallies, and I went to a Vivek Ramaswamy event the other day, and every candidate has allowed me inside except Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, and I had tickets for both of their events, and before Nikki's event could even begin, I'm just standing there.

00:05:01.000 Her staff let me in.

00:05:02.000 They asked me if I wanted to volunteer, and then all of a sudden I'm surrounded by two police officers in Iowa, in Indianola, And they threatened to arrest me and trespass me unless I left.

00:05:11.000 And it's like, uh, hello, I have a ticket.

00:05:13.000 So the video went viral.

00:05:14.000 It has over 15 million views on X alone.

00:05:16.000 Vivek Ramaswamy commented on it because it's like, you want to be president.

00:05:20.000 How are you going to be president?

00:05:22.000 Nikki Haley likes to talk big talk about how, oh, I have my ammunition heels and I'm going to, you know, be against the dictators and Trump's a dictator.

00:05:30.000 But isn't that dictator behavior?

00:05:33.000 And if you're scared of Laura Loomer, how are you going to sit across the table from Putin or Xi Jinping?

00:05:38.000 And then DeSantis did the same thing.

00:05:39.000 I had tickets, I showed up, and then, you know, they removed me, called the cops, and... We'll play some of these videos and we'll get into all that, so thanks for hanging out.

00:05:47.000 We also got Clint Russell hanging out.

00:05:49.000 What's up, Tim?

00:05:50.000 Clint Russell, host of Liberty Lockdown, co-host of Tower Gang.

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00:05:54.000 And most importantly, co-host of The Best Political Show with Luke Witkowski.

00:05:57.000 We had Cernovich on today, went deep dive in the psychedelic realm.

00:06:00.000 It was very interesting.

00:06:01.000 It's a pleasure to be here.

00:06:03.000 Nice! 0.94

00:06:04.000 And we're going to be tasering, Clint, once we reach 100k subscribers.

00:06:07.000 I've been trespassed a lot too.

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00:06:24.000 Thank you again so much for having me.

00:06:26.000 This should be a blast.

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00:06:31.000 Do it now.

00:06:32.000 Those are awesome.

00:06:33.000 Love the show.

00:06:33.000 Thanks, Ian.

00:06:34.000 Laura, great to see you.

00:06:34.000 If you need to, move that mic around anyway.

00:06:36.000 Twist, turn it so you don't have to move for it.

00:06:38.000 Just go for it.

00:06:39.000 Yeah, before we do it, because I saw Luke staring when I wasn't speaking into it right.

00:06:43.000 Is it good?

00:06:44.000 Should I just lean down?

00:06:45.000 Try to get a decent... Maybe we can get somebody over here to help.

00:06:48.000 Also, Serge is pressing the buttons.

00:06:50.000 I don't know if he has a microphone over there.

00:06:52.000 He doesn't?

00:06:53.000 He's shaking his head as a no.

00:06:54.000 But he's here!

00:06:55.000 But what he wants to tell you is, I love you, everyone.

00:06:59.000 Got you, Serge.

00:07:00.000 All right, let's jump into this first story.

00:07:01.000 Yo, this story is wild.

00:07:03.000 Texas National Guard deploys armed soldiers to block Biden's Border Patrol access to the river in Eagle Pass.

00:07:10.000 Governor Abbott is not harming Border Patrol operations, he is enhancing them.

00:07:14.000 That's what they say.

00:07:15.000 On Thursday night, the Texas National Guard took control of Shelby Park in the city of Eagle Pass, Texas, which has been at the center of President Joe Biden's illegal immigrant crisis at the U.S.

00:07:23.000 southern border.

00:07:24.000 According to the Dallas Morning News, the state government has seized control of the area and the Texas National Guard has set up razor wire and fences to block off the park.

00:07:32.000 A filing from Biden's Department of Justice reveals the Texas National Guard has blocked points of entry and has deployed armed soldiers and vehicles to block Border Patrol agents from access to the river by bypassing through entry points in the federal border barrier.

00:07:47.000 Eagle Pass Mayor Rolando Salinas told reporters that the decision was made as part of the Republican

00:07:51.000 Governor Greg Abbott's emergency declaration and was not something the city had requested.

00:07:55.000 He added that as a result, the Border Patrol was not operating in the area.

00:07:58.000 Okay, so this is exactly what I said I was worried about weeks ago. When we're looking at the Biden

00:08:05.000 administration, CBP facilitating illegal immigration into this country, when you have videos of these,

00:08:11.000 it's the construction equipment lifting up the razor wire that was placed there by the state

00:08:16.000 to protect the state. You've got the federal government facilitating crimes and unconstitutional

00:08:23.000 It's unconstitutional for them not to defend the states from invasion, but they're actually facilitating the illegal immigration outright.

00:08:29.000 And then, when Greg Abbott says this is illegal, the DOJ sues them?

00:08:33.000 My fear was exactly this, and what comes next terrifies me.

00:08:37.000 What happens when the Texas National Guard is deployed with rifles, with weapons, to defend the state and uphold its laws?

00:08:44.000 And the Biden administration federal agents say, you are, you're the ones committing the crimes.

00:08:49.000 Both groups point at each other saying, you're committing crimes.

00:08:52.000 For now, I'm hoping, what happens?

00:08:54.000 They just leave.

00:08:54.000 The Border Patrol leaves.

00:08:55.000 They can file their lawsuits and that's the end of it.

00:08:57.000 But my fear is that we get to the point where Texas National Guard is ordered, secure this area, do not let people pass.

00:09:04.000 Plainclothes federal agent with a gun walks up and says, lower your weapon, this is a federal border jurisdiction.

00:09:10.000 The state says, back the F off, don't move.

00:09:13.000 And things escalate from there?

00:09:14.000 I think because it's a situation where everyone on both sides are trying to preserve life.

00:09:18.000 You've got the federal government saying, these poor immigrants, we need to preserve their lives, whereas the Texas government's saying, we need to preserve the lives of our citizens.

00:09:25.000 The law enforcement's not going to turn on it.

00:09:27.000 They both want to de-escalate.

00:09:29.000 and make this as peaceful as possible.

00:09:30.000 I gotta stop you right there and we'll do a fact check.

00:09:32.000 The Biden administration, I believe, although it is an opinion statement,

00:09:36.000 I'll respect that, I will, but I do think it is fair to say the Biden administration

00:09:40.000 is not trying to save lives. People coming on this journey die.

00:09:44.000 Young women are horribly raped in huge numbers and crossing the river as dangerous, they die.

00:09:49.000 Children are getting trafficked and raped. 0.98

00:09:51.000 They're finding five-year-old girls with ten samples of semen inside of them. 0.99

00:09:55.000 I mean, it's terrible.

00:09:56.000 That's not really a pro-life position to take.

00:09:58.000 And they're dying in the desert.

00:10:00.000 So if the Biden administration actually said, we're going to protect these people, he would go to the Mexican government saying, we're securing our borders, we're locking it down, and you need to stop these people before they cross into this dangerous territory.

00:10:09.000 That's the argument I would make, personally.

00:10:10.000 I don't think that they're helping by urging them to come across the border, but I think the state of mind that they have is toxic compassion.

00:10:17.000 We can help everyone come.

00:10:20.000 I think that's an excessively optimistic perspective on what the Biden administration is there for.

00:10:26.000 The EU policy, if you look at the American policy over the past 20-30 years, but really aggressively so as of late, it seems quite clear to me that this is actually a plan to flood the country with immigrants. 0.99

00:10:39.000 And as a libertarian, I'm rarely am I considered a border hawk, but when you actually look at it and you see that this is like a An operation that's being ran on high, I think that it would be foolish to look the other way and say, oh no, they're just people looking for opportunity.

00:10:56.000 If it were the case, as it was historically, that if you were an immigrant that got across the border and the only thing offered to you was perhaps a low-level job and you had to grind your way to the top, That's a totally different incentive structure than what we face today, where these people are offered clothes and food and housing and everything that they could possibly need. 0.88

00:11:14.000 And sex changes. 0.89

00:11:15.000 And health care.

00:11:16.000 And health care.

00:11:16.000 I mean, the list goes on and on.

00:11:18.000 I don't think that this is an accident, and I don't think it has anything to do with sympathy.

00:11:23.000 I was just going to say, I don't think that we can overlook the fact that this is being done in an election year as well, because what's happening is you're having an invasion, okay?

00:11:32.000 They're trying to replace the population. 0.98

00:11:34.000 The great replacement is not some conspiracy theory like the left-wing media.

00:11:39.000 They say that it's some kind of white supremacist conspiracy theory, and as we know, it's very real. 0.83

00:11:44.000 We are being replaced in this country by third world invaders, criminal illegal alien invaders. 1.00

00:11:49.000 And unfortunately, what's happening is when these illegals are coming to places like Texas, you have governors like Governor Abbott who are then putting them on buses. 0.55

00:11:59.000 And I had, you know, one of my followers on X sent me a video that they filmed of a bus of these illegals with Texas plates getting dropped off at a train station just outside of Chicago.

00:12:10.000 Why does that matter?

00:12:11.000 Well, people may think, oh, it's all fun and games, you know, ha ha ha, give these Democrats a taste of their own medicine by shipping them to sanctuary cities. 0.63

00:12:17.000 But these are cities where they give illegals driver's licenses.

00:12:21.000 And so these people are going to have IDs and what's going to stop them, not that we really have voter ID in this country anyway, but what's going to stop these people from voting in our election?

00:12:30.000 But that's not the issue.

00:12:32.000 I'm not concerned in the immediate with the idea that an illegal immigrant votes.

00:12:35.000 The issue is simply by being here, it gives Democrats more congressional seats and more electoral votes.

00:12:41.000 So that has to do with the elections?

00:12:45.000 That's my point, is that they're doing it on purpose and we saw the Democrat from New York, I don't know her name, who said that she's in favor of this because it's going to, you know, create more of these districts.

00:12:55.000 There's that school in, I think it was in New York, where they said all the students have to stay home and do remote learning because they're bringing the illegal immigrants into that school. 1.00

00:13:03.000 Someone posted a political map of the area and found that this area of the city, or this area of New York, voted Republican.

00:13:13.000 And the surrounding area is Democrat.

00:13:14.000 So sure enough, the area targeted where they're shipping in a bunch of these migrants is a red area. 0.64

00:13:19.000 But what happens with illegal immigrants in the immediate? 0.97

00:13:21.000 It is true that when these people come in and then I'm willing to bet that Joe Biden rubber stamps some kind of amnesty executive order unconstitutionally and then makes everyone fight about in the Supreme Court for years.

00:13:32.000 But when he does that, you may actually then see a quick turnaround, illegal immigrants voting.

00:13:36.000 You will definitely see their children voting.

00:13:38.000 They're very likely to vote Democrat because they want the benefits to themselves and their families.

00:13:42.000 But in the immediate, when they count population in the census, they will say, oh look, 10 million people live here now.

00:13:50.000 That's going to be, I mean, what are we looking at, 12 congressional seats and 12 electoral votes for this state?

00:13:55.000 But these people aren't even citizens, but they're getting federal representation.

00:13:58.000 And that's what we are.

00:13:59.000 We're not a democracy.

00:14:00.000 It doesn't matter if the single individual votes.

00:14:03.000 You have 10 Democrats living in an area and they put 750,000 illegal immigrants in it. 0.57

00:14:09.000 Those 10 American citizens now get one Democrat to represent them in Congress.

00:14:13.000 And that's why it's so important that we get President Trump back in office because President Trump has said that he's in favor of banning birthright citizenship.

00:14:20.000 And in fact, every single GOP candidate so far, including Vivek Ramaswamy, has said that they're in favor of banning birthright citizenship, which is what happens, of course, when these anchor babies are born.

00:14:29.000 And there's only one candidate that won't agree to it, and it's Nikki Haley, because she would then be disqualified from running for office because she herself is an anchor baby. 0.94

00:14:38.000 I don't know if you knew that, Tim, but Nikki Haley's parents were not citizens.

00:14:42.000 They were both immigrants who had only been in this country for less than three years at the time of her birth, which means that she technically is not a natural-born citizen, which is a requirement to run for president.

00:14:52.000 And so that's why we need to elect a president, President Donald Trump, Every single candidate who wants to be president going forward, whether it be 2024, 2028, or onward, needs to commit to banning birthright citizenship.

00:15:04.000 We cannot be giving favors out to anchor babies.

00:15:07.000 I think there's an interesting way to look at it is...

00:15:10.000 I think the argument Donald Trump has, as well as Vivek Ramaswamy, is that the Founding Fathers did not intend for this idea of birthright citizenship, this idea that simply because you were born here, you are now entitled to the full benefits of the public offers and the national defense, etc, etc.

00:15:23.000 The 14th Amendment was trying to rectify the issue of slavery, basically saying, these people here, they're citizens.

00:15:30.000 And it turned into something that almost no other country on the planet does.

00:15:32.000 I think there's like one or two.

00:15:34.000 You can come here illegally, have a kid, and that kid's a citizen.

00:15:38.000 No one in the world does that.

00:15:40.000 So, reasonably, I don't think the issue is that we're banning it.

00:15:43.000 I think we've got to reframe it, enforcing the existing standards of the Constitution as to what it means to be a citizen.

00:15:52.000 This is the game that Democrats are really good at playing, is reframing the narrative that we are the ones who want to take action, when in fact they already took the action in the first place in their interpretation of how you get to be a citizen.

00:16:03.000 Become a citizen by the time you turn 18 as a kid just by taking tests and things throughout your your course of life because you could easily educate someone from another country from parents that were illegal to be better citizens, better knowledgeable equipped people than some people that just lounge around and drink Mountain Dew all the time.

00:16:21.000 Yes, I think it's important to address that, right?

00:16:23.000 You've got leftists who were born in this country, let's say they're fifth or sixth generation American, and they hate this country and want to see it burnt to the ground.

00:16:31.000 And then you have people desperately trying to come to this country because they believe in the American dream.

00:16:35.000 The only problem, if you're going to commit a crime to enter this country, I don't think you're the kind of person that really does believe in this country.

00:16:42.000 Breaking the law to come here is the kind of... It's... You know, if someone comes and knocks on your door and says, I'd like to apply to be a roommate in this building.

00:16:49.000 I think it's a really great house and I can pay my rent.

00:16:51.000 You say, okay, I believe you.

00:16:52.000 If someone breaks into your house, you're like, I don't trust this person actually cares about what's going on here.

00:16:56.000 I think we're past the time, though, of the discussion about whether it's legal or illegal.

00:17:00.000 I think we need a full immigration moratorium. 1.00

00:17:03.000 We are at full capacity here in this country right now, and I don't think that given, you know, record high inflation, the disaster known as Bidenomics, our wide open border, we don't need anyone else coming into this country. 0.93

00:17:16.000 This is what I advocated and I ran on as a candidate for Congress when I ran in Florida as well.

00:17:21.000 I think that we need a 10-year minimum, probably a 20-year minimum.

00:17:25.000 Really, if we're being honest, when we look at the actual number of illegals in this country, immigration moratorium.

00:17:30.000 I think we need to halt immigration altogether. 1.00

00:17:32.000 I'm going to have to counter that, Laura, and say we actually need the inversion and we need to mass deport.

00:17:40.000 I'm kidding.

00:17:41.000 I'm in favor of both.

00:17:42.000 I want mass deportations and an immigration moratorium. 0.99

00:17:44.000 We're already dealing with a population decline.

00:17:47.000 If you were to do that, I think that you'd have to address the fiscal concerns.

00:17:52.000 And just from a purely pragmatic assessment, I agree with you that we can't afford all of these people.

00:17:58.000 We certainly have room, not in the cities, but there's room in this country.

00:18:02.000 It's not like we have nothing but cities everywhere.

00:18:04.000 The real issue is that from the year 2000, the national debt had just broken $5 trillion.

00:18:10.000 As of today, it sits at $34 trillion.

00:18:13.000 That's over six times multiplier in less than 25 years.

00:18:19.000 If you look at the interest on the national debt, it will be about 150% this year of what we spend on our national defense.

00:18:28.000 Our national defense is comparable to the 10 biggest countries in the world.

00:18:33.000 I mean, we're talking enormous sums of money.

00:18:35.000 So if we're not going to get our financial house in order, then we absolutely have to keep the influx of migrants. 1.00

00:18:43.000 But that's one way that we can get our financial house in order.

00:18:47.000 I mean, just Luke mentioned this earlier, right?

00:18:48.000 They're giving sex changes now and health care to illegal aliens. 1.00

00:18:52.000 The price tag to provide free health care and Just free healthcare to illegal aliens, not to mention the cost of illegal immigration and this invasion in our country as it stands, right? 1.00

00:19:04.000 So if we want to start reducing our debt and also start being more fiscally responsible and fiscally conservative, Then that's exactly what we need.

00:19:13.000 We need to militarize the United States border, as you were referencing in the beginning of the of the show.

00:19:19.000 We need mass deportations and we need an immigration moratorium. 1.00

00:19:22.000 I mean, it's a slap in the face to all Americans who I pay over. 1.00

00:19:25.000 I mean, there was a point in time I was paying over five hundred dollars a month for health care.

00:19:29.000 And so, what, just, you get to come across this country?

00:19:32.000 Why not just renounce your United States citizenship and cross over from Mexico illegally and then get a free cell phone and new clothes and free healthcare and a sex change? 0.64

00:19:40.000 Why not?

00:19:41.000 Let me pull up this tweet we have.

00:19:42.000 This is a story from Libs of TikTok.

00:19:44.000 Breaking.

00:19:44.000 Chicago O'Hare Airport is shutting down and moving their whole hotel shuttle pickup area so it can house illegals.

00:19:51.000 They're also restricting media access and threaten that media cannot enter the facility.

00:19:55.000 O'Hare has been using the shuttle area to house illegals for months, and now there are too many. 1.00

00:20:00.000 Why are they trying to hide this?

00:20:02.000 There's a sign at Chicago's O'Hare that reads, starting February 1st, all hotel and off-airport parking shuttles pick up in the lower-level arrival lanes of Terminal 2.

00:20:11.000 The pickup sites is a short walk from baggage.

00:20:14.000 You then have this ORD bus shuttle center media policy, of course saying, you know, contact media relations.

00:20:20.000 But there have been illegal immigrants on mattresses on the floor in O'Hare Airport.

00:20:24.000 And it's not just the airport.

00:20:26.000 There is huge concerns in Chicago because they had plans to build camps.

00:20:30.000 It's funny because, you know, Whoopi Goldberg says Donald Trump's going to put people in camps.

00:20:34.000 What do you think they're already doing in Democrat-run Chicago?

00:20:37.000 Now, this plan to build a camp was postponed and delayed, so what are they doing?

00:20:41.000 Sending them to schools.

00:20:42.000 Yeah, look.

00:20:43.000 If you want to make an argument about how we handle legal immigration, I am all for legal immigration. 0.78

00:20:48.000 But it has to be done legally, and there has to be a process by which we determine how many people can actually come into this country.

00:20:53.000 Maybe, as Laura says, the answer is, for now, it's not any.

00:20:56.000 And maybe the answer is, it's very few.

00:20:58.000 Or maybe actually, if it's done legally, there is an appropriate number.

00:21:02.000 For the time being, what we're seeing is that the economy in these cities is at serious risk.

00:21:09.000 You can't have camps being propped up.

00:21:12.000 You have kids, young Americans who can't afford to pay their rent, can't afford their groceries, but then we're finding out that some of these migrants are getting in, I think it's in Chicago, $7,000 a month in public benefits. 0.97

00:21:25.000 One illegal immigrant who was brought here, the Biden administration facilitates this with human traffickers and smugglers, puts them on transportation, brings them to these places around the country, has been doing it for years now, and then the taxpayer funds to the tune of $84,000 a year per person.

00:21:41.000 And young people aren't even making that much money. 0.73

00:21:43.000 What would a moratorium look like?

00:21:44.000 Immigration moratorium? 0.79

00:21:45.000 Because we've got people that live here that are like getting their green card. 0.99

00:21:47.000 They've been in the process for three years.

00:21:49.000 They're waiting and like in nine months, they're going to finally become get their citizenship.

00:21:53.000 I guess.

00:21:54.000 I mean, I'm not in office, so I guess that it would have to be whoever.

00:21:58.000 Well, let's just say President Trump gets back into office.

00:22:01.000 It would perhaps there would be some type of system in place To you know keep the people who had already legally begun their process who are in the process and then it just begins so it's not it's not necessarily retroactive of course if you're here illegally we would have mass deportations but I think going forward there definitely needs to be a halt right a halt on visas and 0.92

00:22:22.000 I mean, it's a national security threat as well, not just an issue of replacement.

00:22:25.000 We saw this recently with all of these anti-Israel and pro-Hamas protests in America. 0.99

00:22:31.000 I mean, these people are openly supporting terrorist organizations, and they're shouting, death to America, death to Jews, death to Christians. 0.99

00:22:39.000 And then you have illegal aliens. 0.99

00:22:41.000 These are not just Mexicans and Guatemalans, right?

00:22:43.000 These are people coming from the Middle East, coming from Africa, okay?

00:22:47.000 And they're sleeping inside our airports.

00:22:49.000 I mean, what happens if you have some lazy, Uh, you know, low IQ TSA agent that falls asleep or isn't paying attention or is texting, and one of these, uh, jihadists who comes across our border illegally or somehow gets shipped to, uh, the airport, uh, by the Biden administration, makes it into the airport and sets off a bomb in one of the largest, uh, airports in our country.

00:23:08.000 That's my absolute biggest fear.

00:23:09.000 That's my biggest fear.

00:23:10.000 Honestly, that's my biggest fear is that one of these days, one of these illegals is going to set off A bomb in, you know, Grand Central Station or one of the airports. 0.99

00:23:20.000 That's my biggest fear.

00:23:21.000 Mine is that groups of them are going to actively be planning stuff.

00:23:24.000 Like, we're at war right now.

00:23:26.000 And whether you want to... Congress didn't declare it, I don't care.

00:23:26.000 This country's at war.

00:23:28.000 We're at war.

00:23:29.000 In the Ukraine, in Israel, we're backing that. 0.86

00:23:29.000 That's the truth of it. 0.86

00:23:31.000 In Yemen.

00:23:32.000 Bombed Yemen yesterday. 0.98

00:23:33.000 Jeez.

00:23:34.000 Okay, so we're at war.

00:23:34.000 You close your borders when you go to war.

00:23:36.000 You don't let- because the enemies will send their people in, they look like citizens, and they go to the cities and like nine of them will be on a Facebook group like, okay, on this day- They're already here!

00:23:46.000 You saw the memo, I released this, I broke this story several months ago and then Daily Caller received the official memo and published it, I'm sure you could pull it up, but they've already confirmed, just weeks after October 7, That you have active Hamas and Hezbollah terror cells in major American cities, like Atlanta, like Chicago, like Washington, D.C., New York City.

00:24:04.000 And we saw them.

00:24:05.000 We saw them taking photos of themselves in Times Square holding the Hamas flag.

00:24:11.000 So we already know that these people are here.

00:24:13.000 They're just waiting.

00:24:15.000 I look at it from a totally different angle in that we've had the war on terror, we've had increased powers for the FBI, the surveillance state, everything else, and we've had open borders for the past 20 plus years, and we still have had no real serious domestic terrorism threats.

00:24:30.000 I mean, very, very minimal.

00:24:32.000 So I think that it has always been overstated that the rest of the world is prepared to blow themselves up to cause us harm.

00:24:39.000 If we were to actually treat them with any level of civility and respect, I don't think we would have anything to fear.

00:24:43.000 And those that were coming across our borders, we could actually streamline it, make it legal and focus on bringing in people that intend to be productive as opposed to those that are looking for handouts.

00:24:54.000 These are very simple answers to the problems that we face, and yet we continue to just...

00:24:59.000 Like, pretend as if you're going to have Trump get in there and remedy all this.

00:25:03.000 It's like the powers that be have already demonstrated that they will undermine him every step of the way, unless he's going to come in there.

00:25:09.000 And he was asked a few days ago, is he interested in retribution?

00:25:12.000 And he said, I don't have enough time for retribution.

00:25:15.000 If you don't have time for retribution, you're not going to fix anything.

00:25:18.000 You have to prosecute Fauci.

00:25:20.000 You have to.

00:25:21.000 It's not an option.

00:25:22.000 He damaged the entire planet with his funding of that.

00:25:25.000 Yeah personally I also just wanted to add that I that I'm also more afraid of all the illegals that the CIA brings in as of course in 2001 there was even a State Department official whistleblower that came out on the record and said hey these these guys that were you know the 9-11 hijackers they were Denied visas at first until the CIA intervened and got them into the United States because of their deliberate interference and them stopping government agents from stopping the actual bad guys from coming in. 0.88

00:25:54.000 So I think they want the bad guys to come in.

00:25:56.000 I think they want this kind of terrorism as the FBI is warning people saying, hey, you guys should watch out as we're watching for Trump supporters and people who go to parent-teacher school conferences.

00:26:06.000 I completely agree with you, and I think that they want it because they want to blame Trump supporters, right?

00:26:11.000 Like you just said, they want to make it seem like the biggest threat in this country is the white Christian male or, you know, the white Trump supporter, when in reality, The deep state and all of these federal law enforcement agencies, they benefit every single time there's a terrorist attack, like an actual terrorist attack, right?

00:26:27.000 Because they get to expand the surveillance state.

00:26:29.000 They get to push for gun control.

00:26:30.000 And as we've seen, they have some of these jihadist terrorists on their payroll.

00:26:35.000 Look at the case of Omar Mateen in Orlando, Florida, the Pulse nightclub shooter.

00:26:39.000 We found out after the fact that he was not only being monitored by the FBI, but his father was literally an FBI informant.

00:26:46.000 And then he was given front row seats at Hillary Clinton's rally when she was campaigning for president.

00:26:51.000 Wow.

00:26:51.000 So Luke's 100% spot on.

00:26:53.000 They are training, they are propping up these people, paying them to attack us.

00:26:57.000 It doesn't even have to be a real terrorist attack.

00:26:59.000 They can just make it seem as if there's one and they can still roll out and increase the surveillance state and the funding for the FBI, which, by the way, if Trump, once again, I'm sorry, I've got to circle back to this.

00:27:10.000 If Trump isn't interested in retribution, he is once again going to be undermined.

00:27:14.000 If you're not interested in retribution against the FBI, which attempted to coup you...

00:27:18.000 What more do they have to do?

00:27:20.000 I didn't hear that clip, but I do know that there's multiple, you know, clips from President Trump's rallies where he says, I am your retribution.

00:27:27.000 And I know for a fact, from my own conversations with President Trump as well, that 100%, you know, he says it publicly, so it's not like I'm saying anything private.

00:27:35.000 He says, I am your retribution.

00:27:37.000 So I would push back on that a little bit because I don't necessarily agree with you.

00:27:41.000 Maybe, you know, there was some context missing or perhaps he was making a sarcastic statement.

00:27:45.000 At the town hall.

00:27:46.000 He specifically said, he said, we're not going to have time for retribution because we're going to make this country so successful.

00:27:53.000 And don't forget our retribution is our success.

00:27:55.000 Right.

00:27:55.000 I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist of what he said.

00:27:57.000 I think they're attempting to frame him as some sort of fascist dictator.

00:28:00.000 So he's, he's trying to now reframe it as, no, I'm not going to go in there looking for retribution.

00:28:06.000 Look, it may be politics.

00:28:07.000 All I'm saying is if he is to get that second shot.

00:28:11.000 Yeah.

00:28:12.000 I need him to actually mean it.

00:28:14.000 And he's going to, but I agree with you.

00:28:16.000 I do think that maybe it's a messaging.

00:28:18.000 I don't work for Trump, you know, but maybe because the media went so crazy when he made his little joke about, Oh, I'm going to be a dictator for one day.

00:28:25.000 They're obsessed with it.

00:28:25.000 And now he talks about it at every single campaign rally.

00:28:28.000 Perhaps, perhaps they are messaging like you just suggested.

00:28:32.000 So people don't actually think he's going to go out and be a dictator.

00:28:35.000 Although I personally wouldn't mind dictator Trump.

00:28:38.000 I mean, if it means retribution, right?

00:28:43.000 If it means shutting down the FBI, closing our border, if that's what dictator Trump looks like, then bring it on, right?

00:28:49.000 But I'm pretty sure Donald Trump isn't just going to get back into office and, you know, say, oh, it's business as usual with these people that decided to completely screw my family and screw me and jail my supporters as political prisoners for the last three years.

00:29:01.000 That man's facing 700 plus years in prison, potentially.

00:29:04.000 If he's not upset about that to the point that he actually... Like, you don't have to do anything dictatorial.

00:29:10.000 You have to enforce the laws.

00:29:11.000 You're surrounded by criminals. 1.00

00:29:13.000 Get an AG that will prosecute these scumbags. 1.00

00:29:16.000 He's going to. 0.99

00:29:17.000 I think it's just the media is just so, you know, they weaponize it.

00:29:21.000 And then you even have conservatives like Nikki Haley who say, oh, well, Trump's going to be a dictator, right?

00:29:26.000 While she's actually, you know, using the police to kick journalists like myself out of her event. 0.56

00:29:31.000 Donald Trump has the GOP establishment against him.

00:29:33.000 He has the Democrats against him.

00:29:34.000 He has the media against him.

00:29:36.000 And, you know, it'd be great if—it's not that his campaign doesn't do good messaging, but look, President Trump has to spend hours every single day sitting in a courtroom, okay?

00:29:46.000 He has to spend hours traveling, right?

00:29:49.000 He just had a—he had a town hall in Iowa the other night, and then imagine how exhausted he must be flying from Iowa in a snowstorm to New York City Sitting in a courtroom with that corrupt Judge Arthur N. Goron and Letitia James all day, and then flying back to wherever he flew next, and then he's coming to Iowa again.

00:30:05.000 It's just...

00:30:06.000 Yeah, I think he's doing the best he can.

00:30:08.000 Just really quick, the whistleblower I mentioned was Michael Springman at the Jetta Consulate.

00:30:08.000 No, he's going non-stop.

00:30:13.000 Look into his story because it really does reveal a lot of the government agents working within the federal bureaucracy that want bad people to come in and do really horrible things to the American people.

00:30:24.000 So they did it before, they were never held accountable for it.

00:30:26.000 They're going to probably do it again.

00:30:27.000 Let's talk about what's going on up here in this caucus.

00:30:30.000 We have this tweet From Rand Paul, it's a meme made by Being Libertarian, and ladies and gentlemen, it's one of the best memes I've ever seen.

00:30:38.000 It says, Netflix presents Hillary, and it's a picture of Nikki Haley, and it is masterfully done.

00:30:44.000 Rand Paul, of course, released an anti-endorsement with NeverNikki.net.

00:30:50.000 Where he's basically given his message.

00:30:53.000 So far, there's no heavy endorsement, but he's just saying, at least not Nikki Haley.

00:30:58.000 I think this meme purposefully, I mean, I'm sorry, perfectly encapsulates wokeness, Netflix, the Democrats, and why Nikki Haley is Nikki Hillary.

00:31:09.000 They nailed it.

00:31:10.000 Amazing.

00:31:10.000 Question though, do you think that Rand Paul's negative endorsement is going to make more or less people vote for Nikki Haley?

00:31:15.000 Because they say even bad press is good press.

00:31:18.000 I think The most powerful tool we have in the culture war, and even in politics, is mockery.

00:31:22.000 Yeah.

00:31:23.000 And so if you come out, I'll tell you this, you go to the average person and you say, Nikki Haley lied about what Russia's intentions are in Eastern Europe to expand foreign war and get us to spend the money.

00:31:34.000 And I'm telling you, if she's elected, we're going to see war in the Middle East.

00:31:37.000 They're going to go, If you go up to the average person and go, yo, look at this, Nikki, Nikki Haley, Hillary! 0.63

00:31:43.000 They're going to start laughing their asses off.

00:31:44.000 That mockery reaches the average person because it's the lowest common denominator. 0.99

00:31:48.000 It reaches some of them because some other people be like, oh, what do you show me that crap for? 0.98

00:31:53.000 Like, and just be like turned off by and be like, don't make fun of, don't be cruel. 0.97

00:31:56.000 Don't bring some people.

00:31:57.000 But the point is making a coherent political argument about Nikki Haley's awful foreign policy and who she's aligned with and where she gets her donations from. 0.66

00:32:07.000 is so over-the-top esoteric, the average person says, look, I don't know what you're talking about, dude.

00:32:11.000 But if you show a meme that makes fun of Netflix's wokeness and how they do these diversity castings, it makes people laugh.

00:32:19.000 And the idea is— Why is she white, though? 0.68

00:32:21.000 Shouldn't she be black if this is a real— Well, that's the point. 1.00

00:32:24.000 She is— She's the minority version of Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:32:27.000 But if it was a real Netflix special, Nikki Haley and Hillary wouldn't even be on there, right? 0.96

00:32:31.000 It'd be some black woman. 1.00

00:32:33.000 Because I was told that the only way you get a Netflix special is if you're a black woman. 0.99

00:32:38.000 But that's the point. 0.84

00:32:38.000 Nikki Haley is a minority. 0.84

00:32:40.000 Black or gay. 0.69

00:32:41.000 Maybe I'm just black, but I feel like I shouldn't have to explain to the American people why they shouldn't support Nikki Haley at this point.

00:32:49.000 If you've been alive for the past 20 years and you've seen what the neocons have done and the neoprogressives or the neoliberals or whatever you want to classify the Clintons as, Bro, of course you have to explain it.

00:32:59.000 matter. And you still haven't figured out that like everything they've told you has been a lie

00:33:04.000 and it has just destroyed the world, destroyed your financial well-being. I still have to explain

00:33:09.000 to you that Nikki Haley is not a good option for president. 0.99

00:33:11.000 I can't even believe this chick's running. It's unbelievable. Bro, of course you have to

00:33:14.000 explain it. The average person doesn't know anything about foreign policy or politics and Nikki Haley

00:33:19.000 goes on stage and the average person, I'm not talking about people who are into politics,

00:33:24.000 you could be left or right.

00:33:25.000 The average person who decides for some reason to watch is gonna see Nikki Haley go, Vladimir Putin is going to go after Poland and our allies.

00:33:32.000 You know, she does that thing where she doesn't open her mouth when she talks, it's really weird.

00:33:35.000 But she's gonna be like, he's going to invade, he's like Hitler. 0.83

00:33:38.000 And they go...

00:33:39.000 You know, I don't know who this lady is, or anything about Russia, but that sounds scary.

00:33:43.000 Then Donald Trump will say something in his show, he'll be like, it's not correct, you know, Vladimir Putin is, he wants Crimea, and they're gonna say, huh, who do I believe?

00:33:52.000 The way, the reason why memes are so effective is that that regular person sees Donald Trump memes where he's riding a tank or a velociraptor with a machine gun, and they laugh.

00:34:03.000 That mockery of Trump, and it is, but it's positive, it's like, look how strong and tough he is, Nikki Haley is insulted as a bad Hillary Clinton who everyone hates.

00:34:12.000 Then, when you're sitting with your friends and you turn on the debate, or whatever it is you're watching, and she says those lies about Vladimir Putin, that person goes, she's Hillary Clinton, dude. 1.00

00:34:22.000 Hillary Clinton's stupid. 1.00

00:34:23.000 Yeah, I think that memes are ammunition in the arsenal of persuasion, and they're not to be used on every target. 1.00

00:34:30.000 Just the illiterate.

00:34:31.000 Yeah, they work against certain people that they'll be like, haha, yeah, but other times you've got to explain her role on the board of Boeing, and that she's part of the war machine. 0.87

00:34:39.000 And you're correct, but everybody hates Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:34:42.000 She was one of the most despised candidates we've ever seen, and that's one of the reasons she lost in 2016. 0.99

00:34:48.000 So when you show a picture of Nikki Haley and call her Hillary, The people who don't know anything about it instantly understand what that means.

00:34:56.000 I would say, though, that we're living in different times.

00:34:58.000 I do think that memetic warfare is certainly, you know, influential.

00:35:02.000 I love it.

00:35:03.000 But the reality is, is that this isn't about, oh, well, I like Nikki Haley, I'm gonna vote for Nikki Haley.

00:35:08.000 This is about one thing and one thing only, okay?

00:35:10.000 And that is getting Donald Trump.

00:35:12.000 And that's why you have David Plouffe, who is Barack Hussein Obama's former campaign manager, urging Democrats to show up on Caucus Day in Iowa to change their registration to Republican to vote for Nikki Haley.

00:35:24.000 It's not that people actually like Nikki Haley.

00:35:26.000 I'm sure that Democrats and Republicans both recognize the fact that she's a warmonger and a neocon who, you know, has a board position with Boeing and has really shady ties to defense contractors that made her a multimillionaire.

00:35:40.000 But this is about getting Donald Trump.

00:35:44.000 And so they are still going to vote.

00:35:46.000 I think that Donald Trump's going to overwhelmingly win the Iowa caucus, but that's why you're seeing all of Hillary Clinton's donors, people like Reid Hoffman, OK, who's the second largest Democrat Party mega donor after George Soros, line up to support Nikki Haley.

00:35:58.000 They don't actually care about Nikki Haley.

00:36:01.000 It's not like they really care about her policies.

00:36:03.000 They just want to get Trump, whoever that is.

00:36:07.000 They don't care.

00:36:07.000 I think they're even pushing for a contingent election.

00:36:10.000 That's why RFK's PAC just invested $15 million in key swing states because, by their own admission, they said that their goal is to get 15 electoral votes so that neither Joe Biden nor Donald Trump get 270.

00:36:25.000 And then what happens, per the Constitution, with a contingent election is Congress then gets to decide who our president is.

00:36:31.000 House delegations?

00:36:32.000 Yes.

00:36:33.000 But Republicans outnumber that.

00:36:35.000 But we currently have a one-seat majority, because with all these Republicans retiring, we could have Speaker Hakeem Jeffries by March if one of these geriatrics in Congress has a stroke, gets cancer, has a heart attack, dies, gets in a car accident, or resigns because they have, whatever, some kind of family emergency. 0.83

00:36:51.000 We already know that there's a ton of rhinos in Congress who hate Trump, and they would love to screw Donald Trump.

00:36:57.000 In an election year by saying, you know what, we're just going to retire early and there you go, Speaker Jeffries.

00:37:04.000 That's why Kevin McCarthy retired early and that's why they ousted George Santos.

00:37:08.000 This is a good point, though, because one play to consider, though I don't know how likely it would be, is if a few of the rhinos in Congress resign, giving Democrats the slim majority by having maybe a seat. 0.99

00:37:17.000 Gives them the delegations.

00:37:18.000 Not even the delegations.

00:37:20.000 But once they have Congress, they immediately vote to charge Trump with insurrection or they simply just pass a resolution saying Trump is an insurrectionist.

00:37:28.000 And I truly believe that's their strategy.

00:37:30.000 I think that the rhinos are doing that.

00:37:32.000 And I wouldn't be surprised if by March, and people can record this and there's going to be a recording.

00:37:37.000 We'll see if I'm right.

00:37:38.000 I think by the end of March, we're going to see another Republican resign and the Democrats are going to take back control of the House.

00:37:45.000 Well, if that happens.

00:37:46.000 I mean, I'm just curious.

00:37:47.000 You're one of Trump's biggest supporters.

00:37:49.000 I'm his biggest supporter.

00:37:50.000 OK, his biggest supporter.

00:37:51.000 I apologize.

00:37:52.000 Number one fan.

00:37:55.000 If he is, you know, waylaid, if he's robbed, if he's thrown off of enough state ballots that he's, whatever reason, it's illegitimate and he's kept out of office.

00:38:04.000 How is the MAGA base going to react to that?

00:38:07.000 Well, there's gonna be a revolution in this country.

00:38:09.000 We are voting for President Trump regardless of whether or not his name's on the ballot.

00:38:13.000 They're not going to steal our elections from us.

00:38:15.000 And this is why everybody should be appalled by these Soros-funded secretaries of state, like Jenna Griswold in Colorado or Shana Bellows in Maine, who are, you know, removing President Trump's name unconstitutionally from the ballot.

00:38:28.000 And that's my point about the contingent election, right?

00:38:31.000 If they are successful, like let's say the Supreme Court rules against President Trump, right? He won't get the

00:38:36.000 electoral votes in those states and it will set a precedent and allow for other blue states or states with RINO or

00:38:43.000 Democrat secretaries of state to remove him from the ballot under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. And so you see the

00:38:50.000 possibility become more of a reality, right? Of neither candidate getting 270, especially with the way that RFK Jr.

00:38:59.000 is being so heavily funded as an independent.

00:39:02.000 I think Vivek was saying one of the plays is it's not about the Democratic Party.

00:39:08.000 You know, we've talked about, you know, the JP Morgan guy say Joe Biden's going to have a medical issue in March.

00:39:13.000 He's going to drop out.

00:39:14.000 And then we speculate it was going to be Newsom.

00:39:16.000 Is it going to be a Michelle Obama?

00:39:17.000 When it's been Nikki Haley the whole time.

00:39:19.000 They're saying they're not going that route.

00:39:22.000 They're going from within the party.

00:39:24.000 They're propping up Nikki Haley, who is very obviously like you.

00:39:27.000 You put her next to Hillary Clinton and take the same talking points. 0.98

00:39:31.000 Same thing. 0.99

00:39:32.000 Russia, Russia, Russia, all this foreign policy garbage nonsense. 0.99

00:39:34.000 She even keeps hot sauce in her purse. 0.99

00:39:36.000 Right?

00:39:37.000 See, there you go.

00:39:38.000 But the point is, When they're taking Trump off the ballot, people say, who cares if Trump's off the ballot in Colorado?

00:39:43.000 Colorado's a blue state.

00:39:45.000 Yes, but it's the primary ballot.

00:39:46.000 Now he's back on, of course, but if California does it, Trump needs to win the California GOP primary.

00:39:52.000 It's not about the general election.

00:39:53.000 They want to create a situation in which Nikki Haley somehow wins the nomination to give them some kind of legitimacy against Trump.

00:40:00.000 Yeah.

00:40:00.000 I think Trump will run as an independent regardless, but then they split the vote and it's like you said, contingent election.

00:40:05.000 Interesting.

00:40:06.000 I'm very nervous because even if, say by some miracle, Trump beats all the charges and he's actually on the ballots and he wins the election and he gets into power and the deep state doesn't take him out.

00:40:17.000 That's a lot of ifs.

00:40:18.000 All right.

00:40:18.000 But he gets through all those ifs and he finally gets in there.

00:40:21.000 I still think we're looking at the potential for a revolution in this country just because I think that the media and the deep state will activate the left in this country in a way that's extraordinarily dangerous.

00:40:31.000 Maybe we need one, honestly.

00:40:32.000 I mean, maybe we need one.

00:40:34.000 No, I don't want to live through that.

00:40:35.000 No, please.

00:40:35.000 The country is a revolution.

00:40:36.000 No, I mean, I'm just saying that our country, OK, our country was born in a revolution.

00:40:41.000 True.

00:40:41.000 And so maybe in order to take our country back, we're going to need a revolution.

00:40:45.000 I'm not calling for a civil war.

00:40:46.000 I'm not inciting violence.

00:40:47.000 But I am saying that, you know, people get so scared with the words, oh, revolution.

00:40:52.000 And, you know, they they like to say that Trump supporters are insurrectionists.

00:40:55.000 Weren't our founding fathers, technically speaking, insurrectionists?

00:40:58.000 Weren't they?

00:40:59.000 What?

00:41:00.000 If they lost.

00:41:00.000 Yeah.

00:41:01.000 They were for sure terrorists.

00:41:02.000 They were considered.

00:41:02.000 But hold on.

00:41:04.000 Revolution doesn't always mean violence.

00:41:06.000 Exactly.

00:41:06.000 That's my point.

00:41:08.000 But historically, it typically is related to it because the people in power won't give up.

00:41:11.000 I think of it a lot as a revolution of the mind.

00:41:13.000 I've been thinking of it since.

00:41:14.000 But that's what Mao called the cultural revolution in China too.

00:41:17.000 They were like, it's a revolution of the mind.

00:41:18.000 And like, so if we're going to do that, which we kind of are with shows like this, we've got to be really intricate about how we do it.

00:41:23.000 A revolution of truth.

00:41:25.000 A revolution of truth.

00:41:27.000 But let's clarify because I like the Founding Fathers' vision for this country.

00:41:31.000 I like the Constitution.

00:41:33.000 I think it's brilliant.

00:41:34.000 I really do think people should study the foundation... Like, read the Constitution.

00:41:38.000 Read how the branches of government are meant to operate.

00:41:40.000 Read the Founding Fathers' quotes and how they were coming up with this system.

00:41:44.000 You've got... They were like, should we have a monarchy?

00:41:46.000 No, that's crazy because of this problem.

00:41:47.000 Should we have a direct democracy?

00:41:49.000 No, because of this problem.

00:41:50.000 What about a council of elders?

00:41:51.000 No, this... Hey, what about all three of them and they all kind of argue with each other at once?

00:41:55.000 It's like, maybe that's the best way to do it.

00:41:58.000 I don't think it's a revolution we want.

00:42:00.000 I think it's a re-ignition.

00:42:01.000 I think it's a reaffirmation or, more importantly, a cleansing or accountability.

00:42:07.000 For too long, people in this country have grown complacent, sitting by and letting corrupt people exploit the system.

00:42:12.000 Congress is plagued with corruption.

00:42:14.000 We can see it in their stock trading deals.

00:42:17.000 All we need to do is, we don't want a revolution in the classical sense of changing this country.

00:42:22.000 No, we want to restore it, which means... A restoration.

00:42:24.000 Restoration is a good way to put it.

00:42:27.000 I'm all for it.

00:42:28.000 I mean, this is the only reason that I even consider the potential of a Trump second term being a positive, is if he is actually recognized.

00:42:38.000 And he always says this, so he has to have recognized it.

00:42:41.000 He always says, they're not after me, they're after you.

00:42:45.000 I'm just standing in the way.

00:42:46.000 And it's like, all right, Trump, you're not wrong.

00:42:49.000 But if that's the case, well, then do what's necessary to defend the people.

00:42:53.000 Yes, but listen, there's a mistake made by the Democrats and sometimes even by the right in the assumption that Donald Trump is MAGA.

00:43:02.000 Donald Trump is a symptom of, and an amalgamation of, the anger that many Americans felt watching this corruption for so long.

00:43:10.000 And Donald Trump came, and as a bull charging through the doors, he said, we're going to have this guy.

00:43:14.000 But what they don't understand is that, as Bannon was alluding to this, Trump's the moderate.

00:43:21.000 Trump is actually the moderate working with you guys.

00:43:24.000 He really is.

00:43:25.000 Because if there isn't a restoration, the next person to step up... I mean, you take a look at how Donald Trump is approaching this election saying, we're not going to have time for retribution, our success will be our retribution.

00:43:37.000 I agree with the idea that... I certainly think Trump wants revenge.

00:43:41.000 But I do think He's concerned about being portrayed as an authoritarian dictator, and he's trying to play it down a little bit to win votes.

00:43:48.000 But you look at Vivek Ramaswamy getting up there and saying, we're going to dismantle the ATF, we're going to dismantle the FBI, we're going to break these things apart.

00:43:55.000 He's coming out substantially way more direct in what needs to be done in this country.

00:44:00.000 If Donald Trump is not the candidate this time around, the next person we may get, who may be Vivek, is going to be much, much more direct.

00:44:07.000 Well, and I don't think that President Trump has a problem with being direct, but let's be honest, Vivek's not going to win, okay?

00:44:14.000 And so I like Vivek, I do, but when you're not going to win and you don't have the media necessarily... I mean, let's be honest, the media is ignoring Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:44:23.000 I think it's wrong.

00:44:24.000 You see the way that they disinvited him and changed the rules at the last minute?

00:44:28.000 Ben Shapiro ignored him, too, of The Daily Wire.

00:44:30.000 Exactly.

00:44:31.000 And I'm not a fan of Ben Shapiro.

00:44:33.000 I like Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:44:34.000 I'm supporting Trump.

00:44:35.000 But you can be more direct, not saying that Trump is withholding, but Vivek has the liberty to, I guess, be a little bit more wild on the campaign trail because the reality is he's not going to win.

00:44:48.000 I'm pretty sure he knows he's not going to win.

00:44:50.000 And I think that he would be great for 2028 as long as he stays in his place and he doesn't, you know, disrespect President Trump.

00:44:57.000 And I say stay in his place because America First is a movement.

00:45:01.000 And I think that President Trump is the leader of the America First movement.

00:45:05.000 And obviously, President Trump's not going to be around forever.

00:45:07.000 And so we need someone to carry on that legacy.

00:45:11.000 You don't get to carry on the legacy by being disrespectful like all these other candidates have, like Ron DeSantis, okay?

00:45:17.000 The vague Ramaswamy is running the campaign that Ron DeSantis should have run.

00:45:21.000 Yep.

00:45:21.000 Agreed.

00:45:22.000 I think the issue for vague, it's not even about being disrespectful to Trump because I think... He's not.

00:45:25.000 I don't think he is.

00:45:26.000 He's a Trump supporter.

00:45:27.000 Yeah, he is.

00:45:28.000 I'm talking about, he's been able to walk this fine line of technically running against Donald Trump, but also not pissing off the MAGA base.

00:45:37.000 And so if he watches, if he stays in his place and he doesn't get too haughty in the sense that he doesn't start supporting weaponized government, and I don't think that he will, I think Vivek Ramaswamy will walk into the White House in 2028.

00:45:51.000 He is running the campaign Ron should have run.

00:45:53.000 Yeah.

00:45:54.000 Vivek, I told this to Vivek the second time we talked.

00:45:58.000 We had a one-on-one conversation on the Culture War podcast and I said, You're not going to win, OK?

00:46:03.000 And he's like, well, we'll see, we'll see.

00:46:05.000 I'm like, come on.

00:46:06.000 I know he can't say it.

00:46:07.000 I know he has to do his best and he has to try.

00:46:09.000 That's what anyone who wants to prove themselves in politics has to do.

00:46:12.000 And so I can respect it.

00:46:13.000 And I can also respect why he can't just come out and be like, guys, I get it.

00:46:17.000 And he's trying to build up his bona fides right now.

00:46:20.000 One of his plays, which is absolutely just expressed in great detail on the show we had on Wednesday, was he believes the deep state will stop at nothing to remove Trump.

00:46:30.000 I'll paraphrase everything he said.

00:46:32.000 He's a safety net.

00:46:34.000 We would prefer Donald Trump.

00:46:35.000 I don't know about you guys, I would prefer Donald Trump.

00:46:38.000 In fact, in a perfect world, Vivek VP, Trump finishes out his last term, Vivek comes in next.

00:46:44.000 We thought that was going to be Ron, it's not.

00:46:46.000 Thank God!

00:46:49.000 In the event that the worst happens to Trump, whatever that may be, I don't know, I'm not suggesting anything, but let's just say for some reason Trump is gone, I am very grateful that it will not just be handed to Nikki Hillary. 0.53

00:46:59.000 No, and I'm grateful that... I had Vivek on my show last week and, you know, he said exactly that, right?

00:47:04.000 He said that he recognizes that he... I don't... You could watch the clip and see what he said word for word on my show, Loomer Unleashed, but it was like, I'm in this race to make sure that it's not just a two-person race between Nikki Haley and Joe Biden.

00:47:16.000 So, he's essentially running a campaign to be a safety net for President Trump, but we already know that Vivek—see, what I don't like is I don't like all of the theories, right, that are pushed by right-wingers, like, oh yeah, Tucker's gonna be VP, oh, Vivek's gonna be VP.

00:47:28.000 No, Tucker already said he's not gonna be VP.

00:47:30.000 Vivek already said he's not interested in being VP.

00:47:34.000 And I think that conservatives love being distracted.

00:47:36.000 I've noticed this about right-wingers, right?

00:47:38.000 And I'm a registered Republican, so I could vote in Florida, a closed primary state, for President Trump, but I hate the Republican Party.

00:47:45.000 I hate the Democrat Party.

00:47:46.000 I hate both political parties, right?

00:47:48.000 We're all there, man.

00:47:49.000 Have you just noticed how easily Republicans are distracted, right?

00:47:54.000 It's like shiny object over here, shiny object over there.

00:47:56.000 They can't focus on these court cases.

00:47:59.000 They can't seem to focus what's in front of their eyes.

00:48:02.000 And it's like every little clickbait headline about who's going to be VP, who's going to be director of FBI catches everybody off guard.

00:48:08.000 We're arguing about calendars, meanwhile the other side is literally imprisoning journalists for talking about issues.

00:48:15.000 I also just want to add a couple things.

00:48:17.000 This election cycle is going to be crazy.

00:48:20.000 I think it's fair to say that we don't know what the outcome is going to be.

00:48:23.000 Who knows?

00:48:24.000 There could be a scenario, there could be a situation where it could be Vivek, or it could be somebody else, or it could be another dark horse.

00:48:30.000 We're still very early on here, and even though they say publicly they don't want to be the VP, politicians always say they don't want to be the VP, but then usually get selected to be the VP as well.

00:48:39.000 This is an election.

00:48:41.000 There's politicians. 0.99

00:48:42.000 There's a lot of liars.

00:48:43.000 There's a lot of people saying one thing and really mean another thing, and with this crazy election cycle, things are going to get wild and absolutely unpredictable, so anything and everything could happen, and probably will.

00:48:53.000 I think the choice for VP is clearly Tucker Carlson.

00:48:56.000 We were on the stage with him at TPUSA and everybody was laughing, being like,

00:49:00.000 Tucker, like, you're the guy.

00:49:02.000 But, you know, Tucker's point was just because he's good at media and he's

00:49:06.000 insightful doesn't mean he knows how government operates.

00:49:08.000 And so that doesn't, so- You actually think he's going to be VP?

00:49:11.000 No.

00:49:11.000 Oh, I was going to say, no, because the Trump campaign, and I'll say this, I do

00:49:15.000 not work for President Trump, but I'm pretty sure the Trump campaign is starting

00:49:18.000 to get really pissed off with everybody insinuating who's going to be, you know,

00:49:22.000 VP, who's going to be hired for what position.

00:49:25.000 And they've literally issued three statements now.

00:49:27.000 And their last statement said that if people keep doing it, they're going to start naming names and in terms of like calling people out because they're, They're tired of—it's a distraction, right?

00:49:36.000 Like, this is done intentionally to distract people from the issues at hand.

00:49:40.000 The ballot cases, the weaponization of government, okay?

00:49:43.000 The way that they're trying to undermine our elections by keeping Donald Trump tied up in court.

00:49:48.000 And so, unless it comes out of Donald Trump's mouth, or an official statement from the campaign, people should stop even talking about who they think is going to be VP.

00:49:56.000 But even—so, Tucker's point is, he doesn't want to be VP.

00:49:58.000 Yeah.

00:49:59.000 He said—I gotta make a point.

00:49:59.000 Stop saying it.

00:50:01.000 The bank said the same thing.

00:50:02.000 Tucker is saying, I'm not a government guy.

00:50:02.000 Right.

00:50:04.000 Trump needs a government person.

00:50:06.000 And so there's plenty of other options, and then it'll be up to them to decide.

00:50:10.000 But I want to pull up this clip you have of Ron DeSantis.

00:50:15.000 We have this tweet from Laura Loomer.

00:50:17.000 We got Loomer'd!

00:50:18.000 Ron DeSantis gets loomered inside his hotel.

00:50:20.000 This is the image that's going viral, it's being memed.

00:50:23.000 Ron DeSantis looking shocked as, of course, Laura Loomer confronts him.

00:50:27.000 But there's a really interesting point brought up in your confrontation, a question that was asked by you and another individual.

00:50:33.000 Ron DeSantis issued a state of emergency in Florida after a major storm hit.

00:50:44.000 There's flooding.

00:50:44.000 Two days ago.

00:50:45.000 Two days ago.

00:50:47.000 And I didn't know that.

00:50:48.000 You know, I'm here.

00:50:49.000 It's two days ago.

00:50:50.000 We are in Iowa right now during what they call a blizzard of the decade, a once-in-a-decade blizzard.

00:50:55.000 The businesses didn't open today.

00:50:56.000 We went to, like, Starbucks was closed.

00:50:58.000 We were able to get some coffee, unfortunately.

00:50:59.000 We didn't have any Casper here with us.

00:51:00.000 But we went, we tried going to a Thai food restaurant.

00:51:02.000 Closed.

00:51:03.000 Next door, peach shop, closed.

00:51:05.000 There's a few places that are still open.

00:51:06.000 We went to a hotel restaurant to find food to get lunch because hotels are open.

00:51:11.000 Uber Eats?

00:51:12.000 Delayed by 30 minutes.

00:51:13.000 Oh, gee, that's crazy.

00:51:14.000 Minimum.

00:51:14.000 Now, here's the point.

00:51:15.000 And I'm banned on Uber Eats.

00:51:16.000 How do you think I feel?

00:51:17.000 So, when I watched this clip of you, I heard that and I went, whoa, wait, really?

00:51:22.000 And I googled.

00:51:22.000 I checked out the state of emergency.

00:51:24.000 Ron DeSantis is the governor of Florida.

00:51:26.000 His state needs him.

00:51:27.000 And instead of being there, he is in Iowa, a place right now where, let's be honest, the storm has everything shut down.

00:51:32.000 He doesn't need to be here.

00:51:34.000 He can campaign, he can be in Florida, and then he can remotely do what he needs to do.

00:51:39.000 But it is shocking to me that at a time where the city is paralyzed by this blizzard, he opted to be in Iowa during their blizzard instead of Florida.

00:51:46.000 Oh, it's even worse than that.

00:51:47.000 So he flew to Florida.

00:51:49.000 I think it's, today's what, the 12th?

00:51:51.000 So I think it was the 9th.

00:51:52.000 Have you checked the day, the screenshot?

00:51:54.000 On the 9th, he flies, 9th of the 10th, flies to Tallahassee from Iowa to give his state-of-the-state address, stays for a couple hours, declares a state of emergency while he's there, and then immediately gets on a plane back to Iowa.

00:52:09.000 So you fly to give a state-of-the-state, and he's getting booed by legislators and lawmakers who are there in attendance because the town of Tallahassee had been affected by the storms, okay?

00:52:20.000 49 out of 67 of Florida's counties were affected by the storms and the tornadoes.

00:52:27.000 And Ron DeSantis is polling at 14% in Iowa, 5% in New Hampshire.

00:52:31.000 They stopped all ad spending in New Hampshire.

00:52:34.000 And it's like, come on, you wasted $300 million of everyone's money 0.96

00:52:38.000 fucking around, pretending like you're going to be president of the United States. 0.99

00:52:42.000 You're an absentee governor. 1.00

00:52:43.000 Cut it out. Get back to Florida and do your damn job. 1.00

00:52:46.000 I'm sorry. This one really, really pissed me off because I have said I liked him policy-wise. 1.00

00:52:52.000 He shouldn't have been running. His campaigns run poorly, but his state needs him right now.

00:52:57.000 And look, I know that a lot of people are going to come to me and say, Donald Trump did this, Donald Trump did that, he went on vacation.

00:53:01.000 Fine!

00:53:02.000 By all means!

00:53:03.000 Like, criticizing any other of these politicians, I will say yes to you.

00:53:08.000 When I see Ron DeSantis do what you just described, Laura, fly in, fly out, and he's in a state that is undergoing—he's in Des Moines, there's a blizzard, and he's here instead of his home state.

00:53:18.000 I'm just like, look, aside from the fact it was the wrong move, morally, He also just lost a tremendous opportunity to prove he is the good leader by standing with Florida and saying to all the people of Iowa, know this, as your president I will never abandon you like I will not abandon the people of my state today.

00:53:34.000 This isn't the first time he's done this stuff.

00:53:37.000 He had an opportunity to actually use this as a secondary method of maybe this is how he bows out gracefully by saying, I will not be at the Iowa caucus because my state needs me.

00:53:47.000 I won't abandon them.

00:53:48.000 Instead, I'm looking at his face, the scared face.

00:53:52.000 And I'm like, here's a guy who abandoned his state during a state of emergency to be third or fourth place.

00:53:57.000 Like you just pointed out, he's losing.

00:53:59.000 He spent all this money.

00:54:00.000 I'm like, this is.

00:54:02.000 Abject campaign failure in every possible way.

00:54:05.000 Governors are not supposed to be able to run for president.

00:54:07.000 They've got to step down from governance in order to do that because the campaign is so demanding.

00:54:10.000 So what did he do to change that rule?

00:54:12.000 So I said that to him too.

00:54:13.000 If you want to play the video, we can play it and talk about it or talk about it and then play whatever you want to do, Tim.

00:54:18.000 But essentially, I talked about this when I was on your show.

00:54:23.000 A couple months ago, right, when I debated the aging lesbian. 1.00

00:54:26.000 Um, Bill Mitchell.

00:54:27.000 Shout out to Bill.

00:54:29.000 And I want to clarify too, he's the one who said that.

00:54:31.000 Yeah!

00:54:32.000 And he, and, and... A very funny guy.

00:54:33.000 He was in on the joke, he rolled with the punches, but that was him who said that.

00:54:37.000 He said it, you know?

00:54:38.000 Can we play this clip?

00:54:39.000 Play the clip and we'll talk about it, and I'll explain it, yeah.

00:54:42.000 Alright, uh... That was today.

00:54:45.000 Do we have, uh, do we have, I don't think we have audio though.

00:54:47.000 We gotta get audio.

00:54:48.000 Yeah, no audio.

00:54:49.000 Gimme, gimme, gimme.

00:54:50.000 Alright, nevermind.

00:54:52.000 Nope.

00:54:52.000 That's Laura on the left.

00:54:54.000 We can wait till you get audio.

00:54:56.000 I think we just gotta click the... We'll start it over.

00:55:00.000 Start it over then.

00:55:02.000 So, let's see here.

00:55:04.000 So this is today.

00:55:06.000 Want a full screen?

00:55:09.000 I'm recording.

00:55:13.000 Hey, Governor.

00:55:15.000 When are you gonna drop out?

00:55:17.000 Don't you think you've already wasted enough of people's money?

00:55:20.000 300 million dollars?

00:55:23.000 Governor DeSantis, why do you have a bubble-wrapped campaign, Ron?

00:55:27.000 Pretending to get a drink.

00:55:28.000 Are you going to be endorsing President Trump when you drop out the night of the Iowa caucus, or hopefully shortly after?

00:55:35.000 An absentee governor who changed the law in Florida so that you could run for president.

00:55:42.000 Answer the question, Ron!

00:55:43.000 I thought you were never back down!

00:55:45.000 Never back down, Ron!

00:55:46.000 Whatever happened to that?

00:55:47.000 That made me laugh.

00:55:52.000 There's a state of emergency in your state.

00:55:54.000 Why aren't you there?

00:55:54.000 There's a state of emergency in the state of Florida that you declared into a band of Floridians, Ron.

00:55:59.000 Hey, why are you hitting me?

00:56:00.000 Why are you hitting me?

00:56:02.000 You wouldn't be governor if it wasn't for President Trump.

00:56:04.000 You betrayed President Trump.

00:56:06.000 You betrayed the people of Florida.

00:56:08.000 And you're going to lose 14% in Iowa, 5% in New Hampshire, Ron. 0.99

00:56:14.000 You're a nightmare. 0.97

00:56:15.000 As you can see. 1.00

00:56:16.000 It gets better.

00:56:17.000 It's always about riding down with Ron DeSantis.

00:56:22.000 Hey everybody, so I'm here in front of the Sheeranton Hotel in West Des Moines, Iowa,

00:56:27.000 and Ron DeSantis just got lumered.

00:56:29.000 He looked petrified.

00:56:31.000 Honestly, I think that his soul left his body when he saw me. 1.00

00:56:35.000 And he's such a coward. 0.98

00:56:36.000 Whatever happened to never back down, right? 1.00

00:56:39.000 Never back down.

00:56:40.000 He ran into the hotel convenience lobby.

00:56:43.000 You know where they sell the little snacks and the waters and the tampons and things like that?

00:56:46.000 Well, let's just... I want to... I want to... You're here.

00:56:47.000 You can tell us exactly... No, it's just 30 more seconds.

00:56:50.000 Just play it.

00:56:50.000 When you said absentee governor's eyes.

00:56:52.000 That's where Ron DeSantis ran.

00:56:53.000 You don't want to piss off Laura, Tim.

00:56:54.000 and then took the elevator to the ninth floor to run away from me.

00:56:58.000 This is a guy who is too scared to face an independent journalist.

00:57:02.000 I can't believe it.

00:57:04.000 Laura Luhrmann, he's running a bubble-wrapped, insulated campaign,

00:57:08.000 doesn't want to talk to the people, and he runs away.

00:57:11.000 He's going to lose. 1.00

00:57:13.000 President Trump is going to kick his ass in Iowa on Monday, January 15th. 1.00

00:57:17.000 And that's it for Ron. 0.99

00:57:20.000 You killed your political career, Ron, and I hope you're happy. 1.00

00:57:22.000 You just got lumered, bitch. 1.00

00:57:25.000 And now you know what the weather was like in Iowa today. 1.00

00:57:27.000 Sideways bluings.

00:57:29.000 Oh, and it got crazier a few hours ago.

00:57:32.000 It was just like total whiteout.

00:57:33.000 When you said absentee governor, that's when his eyes went screenshot and he was like, realized what he was doing being away from Florida.

00:57:41.000 It's, it's, you know what really, really shocked me?

00:57:43.000 I call him, I call him FAG. 1.00

00:57:45.000 You know why I call him FAG? 1.00

00:57:47.000 Florida's Absentee Governor. 0.98

00:57:49.000 I'm not calling him gay. 0.51

00:57:50.000 Oh, I see. 0.92

00:57:51.000 I'm saying it's Florida's Absentee.

00:57:52.000 Yeah, it's an acronym.

00:57:53.000 Look, look.

00:57:54.000 Florida's Absentee Governor.

00:57:55.000 Maybe I didn't say that the right way.

00:57:56.000 Florida's Absentee Governor.

00:57:58.000 I'm disheartened.

00:58:01.000 I'm like, here's this guy that two years ago, just about, not even two years ago, I was hanging out with the Daily Wire crew saying, I think he might be the guy.

00:58:09.000 He's got the young energy.

00:58:10.000 He's got the Trump stuff.

00:58:11.000 Trump hadn't announced or anything like that.

00:58:11.000 Find him.

00:58:12.000 We don't know what he was doing.

00:58:14.000 Ron DeSantis was the lead in the betting markets across the board.

00:58:19.000 He was favored to win.

00:58:20.000 He's now below Nikki Haley.

00:58:23.000 What did he do?

00:58:24.000 And I'm just, I'm sorry, look, like, we've consistently said... He's below Vivek Ramaswamy, too, in New Hampshire.

00:58:29.000 I mean, he's actually in fifth place in New Hampshire.

00:58:31.000 Or was until Chris Christie dropped out.

00:58:34.000 We've talked about how he's Oh, he's great on policy, he's done a good job in Florida, and there's a lot of things he's done that we can say are good, but this is a hell of a way to end your political career.

00:58:45.000 To leave your state during an emergency to campaign where you're losing.

00:58:48.000 And getting glimmered.

00:58:49.000 Well, maybe he's trying to do a retribution arc, because what better way to fail and then try to make your way out of this hole that you dug yourself in?

00:58:58.000 I mean, there's that possibility.

00:59:00.000 Well, the decision that he made To only go with corporate media and to avoid all alt media.

00:59:06.000 Basically, as someone said earlier, he should have done exactly what Favek's done.

00:59:11.000 If he had an ounce of charisma, if he wasn't so deep on the spectrum, he could actually just engage with all of the people that are like, churning the culture out in this country,

00:59:20.000 but instead he's avoided us. 0.98

00:59:22.000 He's now he's getting lumered and it looks like he shit his pants 0.98

00:59:24.000 when she approached him. 0.89

00:59:25.000 It's like, it's just devastating to watch.

00:59:27.000 I moved to Florida because of this guy.

00:59:29.000 I'm a California refugee.

00:59:31.000 I appreciate what he did as governor, but his campaign has been disastrous

00:59:35.000 on a level that I can't even really fathom.

00:59:37.000 It's not just Ron, it's also Nikki.

00:59:40.000 Okay, so there's arguments to be made for, you know, if you're someone like Rhonda Sanders, 0.77

00:59:44.000 don't engage if say like Laura Limer is coming at, Be engaged today, though.

00:59:49.000 And you can't—okay, this is the thing.

00:59:50.000 You can't go around calling your pack, never back down. 0.97

00:59:54.000 I mean, it's so ridiculous. 0.93

00:59:56.000 Never back down, right? 0.97

00:59:57.000 Just like I said in the video.

00:59:58.000 Oh, never back down, except with Laura Loomer, right?

01:00:00.000 He won't even do his spaces with Josie.

01:00:04.000 Because he doesn't like us.

01:00:05.000 You can't go around saying that you're a fighter and say never back down and then run.

01:00:10.000 He had every single confrontation, I'm convinced, this stage.

01:00:12.000 He had climate protesters today.

01:00:14.000 He had climate protesters today at his event or yesterday in Ames and he goes, you're being rude!

01:00:20.000 This is my time, not yours.

01:00:21.000 Be quiet.

01:00:22.000 Be quiet.

01:00:22.000 I mean, he just acts like a toddler.

01:00:24.000 First of all, every time he speaks.

01:00:26.000 And secondly, he likes to talk like he's so tough.

01:00:28.000 And even worse, you could pull up the tweet.

01:00:30.000 Ten minutes after he got lumered, he posted a tweet on—pull it up so people can see.

01:00:34.000 He posted a tweet on his Ron DeSantis account that said something like, oh, I'll never run away from anything.

01:00:41.000 Except me.

01:00:42.000 Except me.

01:00:43.000 I'd say mostly you, but did you know that Ron DeSantis' campaign has banned his people from appearing on Tim Cass' IRL?

01:00:50.000 Yeah, for a while now.

01:00:51.000 We talked about that.

01:00:52.000 For a long time.

01:00:53.000 Last time I was on, it's crazy.

01:00:54.000 This is what makes Vivek's campaign so impressive.

01:00:58.000 I have never seen anyone that's willing to talk to... He's done my show with Luke.

01:01:01.000 He's done my show solo.

01:01:03.000 He's done Dave Smith.

01:01:04.000 He's done IRL.

01:01:04.000 He's done my show.

01:01:07.000 No, Vivek.

01:01:07.000 Oh, right, right, right.

01:01:08.000 No, no, I was saying Vivek.

01:01:09.000 He will talk to anybody, and it's totally unscripted.

01:01:13.000 He will take all comers, people that are detractors, people that don't like him.

01:01:17.000 He is just, he is like, it's just purely through the fire.

01:01:20.000 He's inviting protesters outside who are protesting his event to come inside and start a dialogue with him.

01:01:25.000 Shouts out to individuals like that who are willing to face criticism, who are willing to face controversy, and have hard, difficult conversations.

01:01:32.000 That's what wins elections, and that's what DeSantis is not doing.

01:01:36.000 He should be doing this show.

01:01:37.000 He should be arguing.

01:01:38.000 He should be making his stand, and he's not doing any of that.

01:01:42.000 No contentious interviews?

01:01:43.000 Are you kidding me?

01:01:44.000 You're running a campaign here.

01:01:46.000 Talk to the people who, of course, represent the people the most.

01:01:49.000 The independent media, the people on the ground, the people who represent the people more than the corporate media that you keep giving exclusive interviews to.

01:01:55.000 It's a shame.

01:01:56.000 That's why I said, when he was in there, I said, Ron, why are you running a bubble wrap insulated campaign?

01:02:02.000 Because Nikki Haley is too.

01:02:03.000 They want to wrap these people in bubble wrap to protect them because everything has to be scripted.

01:02:08.000 Every little interaction.

01:02:10.000 Nikki Haley has town halls, and now she doesn't even take town hall questions anymore, whereas Vivek Ramaswamy, I was at his press conference at the Iowa Capitol the other day, and he's giving a talk about no eminent domain for private gain, and this lady from Cambodia starts screeching at the top of her lungs, and he says, how about this? 0.96

01:02:28.000 Let's make a deal.

01:02:29.000 I'm going to give you the microphone for 60 seconds and you're going to make your case and then I'm going to tell you why you're wrong.

01:02:35.000 And, you know, I've never seen anything like it.

01:02:38.000 It's honestly, I'm a Trump supporter and I'm voting for Trump.

01:02:41.000 No one's ever going to change my mind, but it is so impressive.

01:02:43.000 It is so impressive to see the way that Vivek communicates with opposition.

01:02:47.000 Here's the big takeaway too, and I hope people have taken note of this, is that Because Nikki Haley and DeSantis took corporate donors, it made it impossible for them to do the media circuit that Vivek has done, because if they say the things that would be popular in those audiences, their donors are going to be pissed.

01:03:05.000 So they can't do it.

01:03:06.000 They've basically taken the money so they can buy the ads, and they're just going to have their influencers try and set the narrative as to who they are and how they'll govern. 0.87

01:03:14.000 And set their policies from the highest interest, who paid for them, just like we saw with Ron DeSantis' flip-flop on Ukraine, which was the first sign that I saw, especially after the Tucker Carlson interview, where he bowed down, he cowed down to the corporate media, but more importantly, he took special interest money and then flipped his own policies, which is something that I don't want to see from my political leader.

01:03:39.000 I remember back when Luke was like, Ron's doing a great job in Florida.

01:03:42.000 Yeah, he was ahead of the polls.

01:03:43.000 He did an incredible job in Florida.

01:03:45.000 He did an incredible job with the sickness.

01:03:47.000 He did an incredible job when it came to people's bodily autonomy.

01:03:51.000 He did an incredible job, especially when it came to countering all this nonsense, when the corporate media was telling everyone that there was going to be a genocide in Florida because of his COVID policies.

01:04:00.000 Luke, you think that, but honestly, as somebody, you now, from my understanding, you moved to Florida.

01:04:06.000 Absolutely.

01:04:06.000 Yeah, so for people who saw it from the outside, it was all a farce, okay?

01:04:10.000 Ron DeSantis is a Manchurian candidate, and as we know, Fox News has been grooming him for years now to be this opposition candidate to Donald Trump.

01:04:18.000 His COVID record was no different than the record of some of these Democrats.

01:04:22.000 It's just the media lied about it.

01:04:25.000 I was running for Congress in 2020 in Palm Beach County, and I was not able to knock on doors because there were lockdown orders, and you were threatened with arrest in Palm Beach County for walking on the beach.

01:04:35.000 There were parents that got arrested.

01:04:37.000 The first time a pastor has ever been arrested in over 120 years in the United States happened in Tampa, Florida.

01:04:43.000 And he's now, I believe, supporting President Trump.

01:04:46.000 I'm telling you right now, people were lied to about Ron DeSantis' record.

01:04:49.000 He pushed the vaccine.

01:04:51.000 He's on video telling everybody that the vaccines have a 99% effectiveness rate. 0.98

01:04:55.000 And I know people are going to say, well, how can you be a hypocrite? 0.93

01:04:57.000 Trump pushed the vaccine, too. 0.96

01:04:58.000 Trump is pushing the vaccine, but he's still pushing it.

01:05:02.000 But it's a matter of choice.

01:05:03.000 And I don't agree with it.

01:05:05.000 And I'm not vaccinated.

01:05:06.000 I will never take the vaccine.

01:05:07.000 I refuse to.

01:05:08.000 Why are we trying to adjudicate something four years ago when right now Ron DeSantis— Because I was just making the point that he's not a good governor and people need to stop saying that he had a great record on COVID because it's a lie.

01:05:18.000 You can read his own executive orders that say, I'm locking down the beaches.

01:05:22.000 I'm locking down the restaurants.

01:05:24.000 He's a Manchurian candidate. 1.00

01:05:24.000 He's a liar. 1.00

01:05:26.000 I can say right now. 0.97

01:05:28.000 My point when I was bringing this up about Luke's prior support is that here's a guy who is losing, he's losing badly, and he decided to abandon his state during a state of emergency.

01:05:39.000 Everything else out the window.

01:05:40.000 You can come and tell me that the dude saved a baby that was rushing down a river and he jumped in, and then you tell me that he left his state during a state of emergency to try and win a race he was badly losing, and I'm like, he is a bad leader.

01:05:51.000 That's it.

01:05:52.000 Everything else is gone.

01:05:57.000 We need an acknowledgement from Donald about what happened to Operation Warp Speed.

01:06:02.000 There's been a lot of Americans that have been injured.

01:06:04.000 One of them was here.

01:06:05.000 I'm so sick of talking about this.

01:06:08.000 It's still a major issue because let's just say he comes into office.

01:06:12.000 The CIA, Peter Daszak, Echo Health Alliance, all they have to do is restart and do whatever they did again because there isn't A conversation about, hey, I learned my lesson.

01:06:22.000 Hey, there's some mistakes.

01:06:24.000 I should have done something better.

01:06:25.000 Absolutely not.

01:06:26.000 When still he's telling people to get boosted just a few freaking months ago.

01:06:30.000 The policies.

01:06:31.000 And it's funny when I see journalists like these, these centrist type journalists who don't like Donald Trump actually arguing with people over this.

01:06:39.000 And they're putting things like, man, I really don't like Trump.

01:06:41.000 But Operation Warp Speed was therapeutics and vaccines by choice.

01:06:46.000 It was never forcing people to get medical treatments.

01:06:48.000 And when that happened, he came out and said, they shouldn't be doing this.

01:06:51.000 And now years later, I'm just like, dude, it's four years later.

01:06:55.000 OK, I get it.

01:06:56.000 We should never forget how bad those things were.

01:06:58.000 But it's weird to me that we look at these blue state governors who literally murdered people in New York.

01:07:03.000 And it's like, but Donald Trump.

01:07:05.000 Also, can I just say something, too?

01:07:07.000 Can I just say, it goes back to the concept of revolution.

01:07:11.000 Look, I understand people have to provide for their families, and so I'm not trying to sound like a cold-hearted bitch with what I'm about to say, but everybody has choices. 0.54

01:07:19.000 Everybody has free will. 0.59

01:07:20.000 And I'm really sick and tired of listening to people say things like, oh, I would have lost my job, or oh, well, you know, I would have been fired.

01:07:26.000 You either stand for something or you fall for everything.

01:07:30.000 And if more people in this country would have stood up and taken to the streets and fought back against these tyrannical lockdowns, President Trump never forced the vaccine on anyone.

01:07:38.000 President Trump never forced extended lockdowns.

01:07:41.000 President Trump never forced people to wear masks.

01:07:43.000 People accepted it.

01:07:44.000 People allowed their children to be forcefully vaccinated.

01:07:46.000 Trump attacked Thomas Macy, who was against lockdowns.

01:07:49.000 Trump attacked Sweden, who decided not to lockdown.

01:07:52.000 That's a fact.

01:07:53.000 I still want an acknowledgement of it, and because we don't have an acknowledgement of it, because Trump still believes that Okay, I'll tell you why I'm done with this.

01:08:06.000 Because the anti-Trump people say, Trump did the exact same thing Ron DeSantis did, but Trump was wrong when he did it.

01:08:11.000 And then the DeSantis people are like, DeSantis did the same thing that Trump did, but DeSantis was right when he- I'm like, dude.

01:08:17.000 In the beginning of COVID, in the lockdowns, Donald Trump said 15 days until the spread.

01:08:21.000 And we were all, not everybody, but a lot of people were like, okay, well, we don't know what's going on.

01:08:25.000 And now that we have hindsight, you have people being like, Ron was correct.

01:08:29.000 No, Ron.

01:08:29.000 No, Trump was correct.

01:08:30.000 Dude, I don't think we need to adjudicate for what happened four years ago now that we have hindsight and we can talk about it today.

01:08:36.000 And now what's going to happen is, everyone's going to just keep going back to four years, four years ago, four years ago, four years ago.

01:08:48.000 I'm asking, I'm asking, what happens next year?

01:08:50.000 Can we get an AG that actually looks into the creation, the funding, all that, and prosecute?

01:08:56.000 Can we arrest Fauci?

01:08:57.000 Can we please arrest Fauci?

01:08:58.000 That matters.

01:08:59.000 All I'm trying to say is that, You know, people have their opinions, very strong opinions about COVID.

01:09:04.000 I'm, you know, the biggest Trump supporter there is, and I never took the vaccine, never got boosted, never will.

01:09:08.000 I'm a proud anti-vaxxer.

01:09:10.000 But Trump did get boosted, right?

01:09:12.000 I just want to see more personal... 1.00

01:09:14.000 I'm losing my fucking mind! 0.99

01:09:15.000 I feel like I'm moderating a zero-hedge debate. 1.00

01:09:17.000 Shut the fuck up! 1.00

01:09:18.000 Shut the fuck up! 1.00

01:09:18.000 This is what I felt like at the zero-hedge debate, by the way. 1.00

01:09:20.000 Dude, holy fucking shit! 1.00

01:09:22.000 Let's just not talk over each other. 1.00

01:09:23.000 We get it.

01:09:23.000 I have had this debate 7,000 times.

01:09:26.000 And I'm sorry, I'm losing my fucking mind. 0.98

01:09:28.000 I am so over people being like, Trump was bad because Trump did a thing. 0.98

01:09:32.000 No, I agree with you.

01:09:33.000 We did not know what was happening four years ago, and now we are four years on with mass illegal immigration, 10,000 people per day, and you're talking about a vaccine program for four years ago!

01:09:43.000 Here we go again.

01:09:44.000 The comments were made a couple of weeks ago by Donald Trump.

01:09:48.000 Donald Trump came out and said it should be your choice.

01:09:51.000 Yes, that's my point.

01:09:51.000 We're done.

01:09:52.000 Do you guys think that the reason why we talk about... Okay, let's solve this.

01:09:57.000 Talk to a doctor.

01:09:58.000 Talk to a doctor.

01:09:59.000 Don't take advice from Donald Trump on medical practices.

01:10:02.000 Talk to your doctor.

01:10:03.000 If you don't trust your doctor, find a doctor you trust.

01:10:05.000 But I remember when Donald Trump was at a rally and he said, oh, I love the vaccine.

01:10:09.000 They booed him and he goes, yes, but it's your choice.

01:10:12.000 I don't understand why you're conflating Donald Trump saying, I invested in medical research, you can choose it, and now you're like, it's Trump's fault.

01:10:20.000 He allowed the American people to be guinea pigs.

01:10:22.000 He allowed Big Pharma to get away and never be held responsible for the crimes they committed against the American people.

01:10:27.000 There are so many people that were injured, there were so many people that were hurt, and they deserve justice, and they deserve to be heard.

01:10:35.000 It's about personal accountability.

01:10:39.000 Tim, will you agree with me on this?

01:10:40.000 It's about personal accountability.

01:10:42.000 I'm not trying to re-debate this issue.

01:10:44.000 I agree with you, Tim.

01:10:45.000 I'm taking your position.

01:10:46.000 My point is that people need to stop bitching about it because the reality is you decide what goes inside your own body and nobody put a gun to your head and said they're going to kill you if you don't take this vaccine.

01:11:01.000 If more people would have stood up, again, I really firmly believe it's about personal accountability.

01:11:06.000 Andrew Cuomo.

01:11:09.000 Gretchen Whitmer.

01:11:10.000 Wolf.

01:11:12.000 Who was New Jersey?

01:11:13.000 It's been so long.

01:11:14.000 Newsom, of course.

01:11:16.000 It was Democrat governors mandating all of these things.

01:11:21.000 All of it.

01:11:22.000 The elderly people who died. 0.86

01:11:24.000 And I want to stress, too, I do think it's important that we talk about these things because, holy crap, I can't believe everything that happened. 0.96

01:11:31.000 That being said, this debate comes down to Trump derangement syndrome and DeSantis derangement syndrome. 0.71

01:11:38.000 And I'm just like, where are we today?

01:11:40.000 Where we are today is we are in Iowa during a massive blizzard.

01:11:44.000 We have questions about what the plans are for the future of this country.

01:11:46.000 We might be stuck with each other.

01:11:48.000 Donald Trump said... Oh yeah.

01:11:49.000 God willing.

01:11:50.000 No, but it's good.

01:11:50.000 I think we're having a good time.

01:11:53.000 You gotta get heated.

01:11:54.000 You gotta get passionate about a conversation.

01:11:55.000 It's fine.

01:11:56.000 It's good.

01:11:56.000 And so what the concern right now is...

01:11:59.000 Donald Trump says retribution or no retribution.

01:12:01.000 Legitimate questions.

01:12:02.000 And I think we've actually worked that through.

01:12:04.000 Maybe he's just saying that because he's trying to appear more moderate, or maybe he's backing down.

01:12:08.000 Who knows?

01:12:08.000 But I think he's—my personal opinion is trying to appear more moderate.

01:12:11.000 Ron DeSantis flew to Florida, declared a state of emergency.

01:12:14.000 I'm super offended by that.

01:12:16.000 Me too.

01:12:17.000 I don't see the debate between Trump and DeSantis on COVID when the debate is Democrats versus Republicans on COVID.

01:12:23.000 And I don't know why we're having a GOP debate over who got it more wrong than the person when Democrats murdered people.

01:12:29.000 We shouldn't be having this debate because DeSantis' career is dead.

01:12:32.000 Thank God!

01:12:34.000 It doesn't matter.

01:12:35.000 But what does matter is if Trump, who is the favorite, what he's going to do moving forward, which is why I'm not trying to litigate the past.

01:12:42.000 I'm trying to prosecute those responsible for it.

01:12:45.000 I think that if you expect us to have a free country moving forward, you absolutely have to investigate the people that are responsible for the greatest calamity in my lifetime, if not human history.

01:12:56.000 We're talking about tens of millions of lost lives.

01:12:59.000 We can't just brush that over.

01:13:00.000 We can't.

01:13:01.000 And I don't think Donald Trump is going to.

01:13:02.000 He's said it numerous times, and if you, you know, if you study Donald Trump like I have, and you look at some of his previous statements from over the years, Donald Trump is all about retribution and revenge.

01:13:12.000 He always says, I love getting even.

01:13:14.000 It's from his interview with, I believe, in the 1970s with Charlie Rose.

01:13:19.000 He said, I love getting even.

01:13:21.000 And Charlie goes, oh, you do, really?

01:13:23.000 He goes, yes, I love getting even.

01:13:24.000 But Trump is all about getting even.

01:13:31.000 Retribution on people that do wrongs against the American people and our country.

01:13:38.000 And that's why he's always saying, I am your retribution.

01:13:41.000 And let's say he changed his mind.

01:13:45.000 My position, you know, it's funny because you get these DeSantis fans on Twitter being like, you're in the Trump cult.

01:13:50.000 I'm like, dude, my position is Trump is not the best president.

01:13:56.000 He's not the president we dream of.

01:13:57.000 He's the best we have.

01:13:59.000 Who are you going to vote for?

01:14:00.000 Vivek.

01:14:01.000 Now I will say this.

01:14:03.000 In my lifetime, Donald Trump is the best president this country has had.

01:14:08.000 In my lifetime.

01:14:09.000 I agree.

01:14:09.000 And you take a look at foreign wars.

01:14:11.000 I love seeing the libertarians be like, under Trump, no new wars.

01:14:15.000 Under Biden, three new wars already with US involvement.

01:14:19.000 Not to mention the reignition of Middle Eastern conflict that Biden has sent people into.

01:14:24.000 And now I'm sitting here giving fire emojis to Rashida Tlaib when she called out Biden for his unconstitutional bombing of Yemen without congressional approval.

01:14:33.000 And I'm like, Rashida is completely correct.

01:14:36.000 Who am I going to vote for?

01:14:38.000 I'm never the person who says the lesser of two evils.

01:14:40.000 If you think Donald Trump is a degree of evil, don't vote for him.

01:14:44.000 But I look at Donald Trump and I'm like, foreign policy is A+.

01:14:49.000 Abraham Accords, negotiating with North Korea, no new wars, withdrawal from the Middle East.

01:14:55.000 I see those as the key issues for me.

01:14:58.000 Vivek, I agree, but realism.

01:15:00.000 Vivek is not in the experienced position.

01:15:04.000 He does not have the same connections and he is not media positioned to actually win.

01:15:08.000 So as much as I would say I'd love a Vivek presidency, it is Trump's time right now.

01:15:12.000 You're taking the pragmatic approach and that's totally, totally reasonable.

01:15:15.000 But I see Trump as a net positive.

01:15:17.000 I'm not even saying that he can't be.

01:15:19.000 He has the potential to be a great president.

01:15:22.000 Like, he was okay.

01:15:23.000 If it weren't for 2020, he would have been a good president last go-around.

01:15:27.000 But he has the potential to be a great president.

01:15:29.000 But the only way he can actually fulfill on that promise is to actually go after all of the corruption in the deep state.

01:15:36.000 And hey, and you know what?

01:15:37.000 Maybe or maybe not.

01:15:39.000 In terms of foreign policy, what I will say is, whether or not Trump gets retribution does not change the fact that he has my vote.

01:15:48.000 I'm not going to vote for Ron DeSantis, that's laughable.

01:15:50.000 Nikki Haley is offensive to suggest I would vote for her.

01:15:53.000 Vivek Ramaswamy I would vote for in the instance Trump was not available.

01:15:56.000 Do you think that people don't criticize Trump's campaigning this time around, like we do with Ron and Nikki and Vivek?

01:16:03.000 I mean, we give Vivek a lot of positive criticism, but we criticize it.

01:16:06.000 Is it because he's the incumbent, because Trump is the incumbent?

01:16:09.000 I had a very interesting conversation with Mike Cernovich over lunch after the show.

01:16:15.000 And I you know it's going to be it's going to be hard to some ice the conversation that we had here but we essentially said hey holden you know even our guys feet to the fire is absolutely important because it actually implements policies that that puts us in the right direction so I think we do need to be critical of anything and everyone that's even in our own party.

01:16:35.000 Because then we could help kind of align this country to move forward in a way where there's no future mistakes made.

01:16:40.000 And I think that's critically important.

01:16:42.000 Constructive criticism is really important.

01:16:44.000 The facts do matter about this particular case.

01:16:47.000 And there were some mistakes made.

01:16:49.000 They should be addressed.

01:16:50.000 They haven't.

01:16:50.000 And this is why this is an issue of concern to make sure that we don't repeat these mistakes again.

01:16:54.000 Because very easily the people in charge could just redo the same situation in 2020 and we'll be in trouble again.

01:16:59.000 Exactly.

01:17:00.000 And this is why it would assuage so much of my fears if he were to have Vivek in there

01:17:05.000 as VP, because I'd strongly believe after talking to Vivek for hours now that he is

01:17:12.000 more than capable of actually going after DEI, ESG, the deep state more broadly, Fauci,

01:17:19.000 all of it. He really does have that capacity. And I know that Trump is under the gun and

01:17:23.000 he's dealing with tons of litigation and all sorts of undermining of his everything. So

01:17:28.000 It would be nice if he could have someone who's as hard-charging as Viveca.

01:17:32.000 I've never seen anyone more energetic in politics in my life.

01:17:35.000 It's a fantasy though.

01:17:37.000 Vivek has already said, this is what I was talking about before about why waste time talking about things that we already know are not going to be reality.

01:17:44.000 I agree that Vivek is...

01:17:46.000 I know you will, but I'm the voter that I am.

01:17:48.000 I know.

01:17:48.000 next best option. I'm supporting President Trump and I'm voting for Trump.

01:17:52.000 I don't care what happens in 2024. I will write President Trump's name in

01:17:56.000 Sharpie across the ballot even if they take him off the ballot. I know you will.

01:17:59.000 But I will just say with Vivek, he already has said publicly that he

01:18:04.000 doesn't want to be VP. But that doesn't mean that he won't take it.

01:18:07.000 Yeah, but politicians say that all the time. 1.00

01:18:08.000 And then they usually sometimes become VP.

01:18:10.000 It's like if you're running a race, you don't say, I'm running to get the silver medal.

01:18:13.000 You say, I'm going to get gold, I'm going to get gold.

01:18:15.000 I think it'd be great to see Vivek in some type of cabinet position in President Trump's White House.

01:18:20.000 And I think that, you know, aside from maybe Kerry Lake, I don't know of anybody else in the Republican Party who is as effective as a communicator and is as solid on the issues as Vivek Ramaswamy.

01:18:32.000 You have Trump, you have Vivek Ramaswamy, and you have Kerry Lake.

01:18:35.000 I'm not impressed by anybody else.

01:18:37.000 I'm really not.

01:18:37.000 And Ron should have recognized the reality of when it is your time and what that means.

01:18:42.000 It doesn't mean that by nature of what year it is, it's your turn or not your turn.

01:18:47.000 Hillary Clinton thought it was her time, but the reality was she's disliked.

01:18:51.000 And with all due respect to Vivek, I think he's the hardest working guy in politics, but it's not his time.

01:18:55.000 Why?

01:18:56.000 Because the Trump base has an opportunity to give Donald Trump his second term that they wanted to see, and they like Vivek, But they're like, Vivek, you have a lot of time in front of you.

01:19:06.000 You have a whole career in front of you.

01:19:08.000 Next time is good for you.

01:19:09.000 That was Ron's option.

01:19:11.000 That was Ron's path.

01:19:12.000 It was the Trump-DeSantis ticket everyone was excited for, and then Ron basically was like, well, I'm gonna come out and just attack Trump and say he was bad at everything. 0.98

01:19:19.000 It was ridiculous. 0.98

01:19:20.000 It was worse than that. 0.90

01:19:24.000 He appointed his own Secretary of State, a guy by the name of Cord Bird, so that Cord Bird could then secretly and quietly change the political handbook in Florida.

01:19:33.000 You could look this up.

01:19:33.000 This really happened.

01:19:35.000 It used to be illegal in the state of Florida for the transfer of funds between a state PAC to a federal PAC.

01:19:40.000 He appointed and hand-selected his Secretary of State, this guy Cordbird, so that he could change the law.

01:19:46.000 Then that allowed for Ron DeSantis, after raising $200 million when he ran for the second term as governor of Florida, to transfer the remaining $85 million over to the Never Back Down Super PAC.

01:19:57.000 And then he ran a shadow presidential campaign after he got a book deal from Rupert Murdoch, the owner of Fox News, Harper Collins, and, you know, he essentially now is an absentee governor and he got the Florida legislature to change the law.

01:20:13.000 We used to have, we have this law in Florida called Resign to Run, it still exists actually, where you had to resign if you wanted to run for another position.

01:20:20.000 And so he had the law changed so that it doesn't apply if you want to run for president.

01:20:25.000 But it still applies.

01:20:26.000 Like, say you are a member of Congress.

01:20:28.000 Like, this happened to Byron Donalds.

01:20:29.000 When Byron Donalds was a Florida legislature, he had to step down when he ran for Congress, right?

01:20:35.000 If this were any other lawmaker in Florida, the law still applies.

01:20:38.000 That's what dictators do. 1.00

01:20:39.000 They change laws to benefit themselves.

01:20:41.000 That's what Ron did.

01:20:43.000 And now he's getting paid a salary.

01:20:44.000 His career's over.

01:20:46.000 Let him just rest.

01:20:47.000 We unfortunately have him for a few more years.

01:20:49.000 You're beating the dead horse.

01:20:51.000 We need to remove him as governor.

01:20:53.000 I'm not going to be happy until he's no longer governor.

01:20:57.000 I'm honestly that pissed off.

01:20:58.000 You're going hard in the paint. 1.00

01:20:59.000 I am so offended as a Florida taxpayer that I have paid for this asshole to campaign on taxpayer dime while he has divided the Republican Party and attacked the best president. 0.99

01:21:10.000 This isn't just about, oh, his career's over. 0.99

01:21:12.000 I am not going to be happy until Governor Ron DeSantis is literally working at a pizza shop.

01:21:18.000 I want him out.

01:21:19.000 What if he's the manager at like a cinema?

01:21:21.000 I want him out.

01:21:22.000 You know his wife is gonna try to run for governor. 1.00

01:21:24.000 This is a real thing.

01:21:25.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:21:27.000 I gotta point this out.

01:21:28.000 I'm friends with Will Chamberlain.

01:21:29.000 He's a good guy.

01:21:30.000 No, he's not.

01:21:30.000 I like Will.

01:21:31.000 You don't have to like him.

01:21:32.000 But this is important.

01:21:33.000 Axios, DeSantis' state-funded office, hires ousted campaign aides.

01:21:37.000 There are serious questions about the DeSantis campaign hiring Will Chamberlain, his wife Jordan, who are friends of ours, and then when they left the campaign, got hired by his governor's office despite working in the D.C.

01:21:48.000 area.

01:21:50.000 I think that's shady.

01:21:51.000 I'm sorry.

01:21:53.000 It seems very much like, and this is why Axios wrote it, the campaign said, we're laying people off, laid off campaign staff, and then said, we're going to keep you doing the same work, but pay you through the governor's office.

01:22:03.000 Yeah, and that's what he's doing.

01:22:04.000 And it's a total FEC violation.

01:22:06.000 Never Back Down has been doing this.

01:22:07.000 You know, they have rules, Tim.

01:22:10.000 Cool-off periods, where you have to wait, technically speaking, 120 days if you want to transfer between a campaign and a PAC.

01:22:17.000 And if you notice, if you look at the records, so many of Ron DeSantis' official campaign staff were then working for the PAC, never back down.

01:22:24.000 This weekend, he's—do you know that Ron DeSantis on Saturday is flying in his entire gubernatorial office to come campaign for him?

01:22:30.000 That is illegal!

01:22:32.000 It's illegal and nobody's holding him accountable.

01:22:34.000 There's so many FEC violations when you look at the fact that never back down.

01:22:39.000 You're supposed to have a separation, a firewall between a PAC and a campaign.

01:22:42.000 Never back down essentially wrapped a tour bus and Ron DeSantis is driving the bus.

01:22:46.000 DeSantis has been reincarnated and put back into the dirt by you.

01:22:49.000 It's unbelievable.

01:22:51.000 Please leave the man alone.

01:22:52.000 Not him.

01:22:52.000 Look, look, look.

01:22:54.000 Let's show this here.

01:22:55.000 Ron DeSantis is tied with Vivek in the prediction markets.

01:22:59.000 Nikki Haley is beating him by more than double. 0.99

01:23:03.000 And it's not polls, it's prediction markets, which I think in some ways you could argue are better than polls or just different from polls.

01:23:09.000 But I think it's fair to say, I think the criticism is important.

01:23:14.000 And at this point, He should drop out.

01:23:17.000 I don't think he will.

01:23:18.000 I don't think he'll drop out after Iowa.

01:23:19.000 He should drop out if Iowa goes poorly for him.

01:23:21.000 I think he will after Iowa.

01:23:22.000 He's already stopped spending in New Hampshire.

01:23:24.000 He's polling at 5% and if you look at the breakdown, I actually tweeted a photo of this the other day, if you look at the breakdown of political ad spending, Ron DeSantis has effectively ended all ad spending in New Hampshire, which is a sign that he's going to drop out.

01:23:37.000 Let me make a plea, not really to the voters so much as to the candidates.

01:23:42.000 We're sitting in Vivek's back room right now.

01:23:45.000 We don't need good.

01:23:47.000 We need great.

01:23:48.000 We need great.

01:23:49.000 It is such a dire inflection point in American history, if not global history.

01:23:54.000 You have multiple fronts for potential world war.

01:23:56.000 You have a global financial reset that is imminently approaching.

01:24:01.000 You have no fiscal constraints. 1.00

01:24:03.000 You have this asshole Mike who's the new whatever speaker who's just such a bum. 1.00

01:24:09.000 There's just no seriousness with which people are approaching politics. 0.99

01:24:13.000 In fact, the only reason I got involved in podcasting and being a political commentator Was in 2020, because I realized it was so dire that I wouldn't have a nation that I could raise my children in peacefully.

01:24:23.000 And I still don't have that.

01:24:24.000 We haven't actually won anything.

01:24:27.000 In fact, we're losing extraordinarily rapidly.

01:24:29.000 I had an hour-long conversation, Josie, myself, and Donald Trump Jr.

01:24:33.000 last night.

01:24:34.000 Very impressed with him.

01:24:36.000 Honestly, I had no opinion of the guy, really, up until then.

01:24:39.000 Very open, honest, down-to-earth, stunningly down-to-earth for the son of a billionaire.

01:24:43.000 Nice guy.

01:24:45.000 I think he gets it.

01:24:47.000 And all I'm asking is that I want to see that reflected in his father.

01:24:50.000 If he's going to be given a second turn at the trough, we need great.

01:24:54.000 We need great.

01:24:55.000 And if he's able to deliver that, he just hasn't shown me in his rhetoric of late.

01:25:00.000 And maybe it's because he's being pressured by so many prosecutions and everything else, and the media is so unfair, blah, blah, blah.

01:25:05.000 OK, fine.

01:25:06.000 It doesn't matter.

01:25:07.000 I need you to be great.

01:25:08.000 I need you to be great in this moment.

01:25:09.000 And if he can do that, then we'll see what happens.

01:25:12.000 What would that look like, greatness?

01:25:14.000 You need someone who's extraordinarily serious about either defending the dollar or at least dealing with the national debt in a way that's very serious.

01:25:22.000 We have to bring our troops home.

01:25:23.000 We cannot continue to have troops sitting in Syria and Iraq and there's most likely there's troops also in Israel that are helping the attacks on Gaza.

01:25:32.000 We need to stop having all of our just these sitting ducks that could be Casa's belly for World War III all over the Middle East. 0.98

01:25:38.000 It's totally nuts.

01:25:40.000 We're also burning hundreds of billions of dollars in Ukraine But that's not just all Donald Trump.

01:25:49.000 You see, like, look, you just said it yourself.

01:25:51.000 I wasn't blaming Trump for any of this.

01:25:52.000 Mike Johnson, we need to hold the Republican Party accountable.

01:25:56.000 The Republican Party has proven itself to be completely ineffective and incompetent unless Donald Trump is leading at the top of the ticket, okay?

01:26:03.000 Mike Johnson, I warned everybody. 0.98

01:26:05.000 I said—I honestly vomited in my mouth when I saw President Trump post on True Social, MAGA Mike, because Mike Johnson is a disgrace. 0.69

01:26:13.000 He's not America First. 0.63

01:26:14.000 He's not MAGA.

01:26:15.000 And I would prefer that we never call Mike Johnson MAGA Mike, because there's nothing MAGA about this guy.

01:26:21.000 You know, we have a Speaker of the House—after we had a motion to vacate for Kevin McCarthy, we got Mike Johnson, who did the same exact thing.

01:26:28.000 We are—what's the date today?

01:26:29.000 The 12th?

01:26:30.000 We are seven days away from a government shutdown, okay?

01:26:32.000 We don't have any— Shut it down.

01:26:34.000 Good, shut it down.

01:26:35.000 We don't have any single appropriations bills.

01:26:38.000 We have a 1.6 trillion dollar budget that the Republicans are just like, well, whatever, I guess.

01:26:42.000 I guess we're just gonna, you know, sign off on a 1.6 trillion dollars, an open border, no plan to militarize or secure our border, more money going to Ukraine. 0.99

01:26:51.000 It's like, we might as well just have a freaking Democrat Speaker of the House at this point in time, because the Republicans don't do shit. 0.97

01:26:56.000 This is the point I'm trying to make is that to the American people, I just want to make sure that they understand your representatives don't care at all about you and certainly not your children. 0.99

01:27:05.000 They are setting you up to fail on a national scale in a global depression and a potential world war.

01:27:12.000 And we're just like talking about it as opposed to being like, feel what I'm saying right now.

01:27:16.000 We're on the cusp of a world war.

01:27:19.000 With nuclear armed powers all across the planet. 0.99

01:27:22.000 It's fucking nuts. 0.96

01:27:24.000 And we just, like, I just, I hope that these people actually understand the responsibility that's being put at their feet. 0.98

01:27:31.000 I really do.

01:27:31.000 Well, Trump always says in every single speech, he always says he's the only candidate that can prevent World War III.

01:27:36.000 And I truly do believe him.

01:27:37.000 I mean, we did see through his record and you, if you're fair, you'll agree with me on this.

01:27:41.000 He didn't start any wars when he was in the White House.

01:27:43.000 He's the only president in my lifetime that entered the White House and left the White

01:27:47.000 House without starting any new conflicts.

01:27:50.000 I don't think that Vaik has the experience internationally to do the same thing foreign

01:27:58.000 policy wise.

01:27:59.000 Maybe not.

01:27:59.000 Vivek says a lot of really, really great things.

01:28:01.000 We like his ideas, we like his policies, FBI, ETF, etc, etc.

01:28:04.000 Donald Trump has decades upon decades of international business relations, and that experience he used to, one, it wasn't just no new wars, it was the withdrawal of our forces from any of these countries, it was getting NATO to pay their fair share, it was the Abraham Accords, negotiating with North Korea, and other quote-unquote dictators that the media didn't like.

01:28:21.000 Vivek's great!

01:28:22.000 Vivek doesn't have that same degree of experience.

01:28:24.000 Trump's super famous and he's like a rock star, kind of.

01:28:28.000 So Kim Jong-un loves him.

01:28:29.000 Like, he just loves the guy.

01:28:30.000 And that's a big deal, having a North Korean, the dictator of North Korea loving our president.

01:28:34.000 But you know what's an even bigger deal?

01:28:36.000 Is having a president that is actually willing to go after the three-letter agencies in this country that are totally undermining every constitutional protection that we have. 0.51

01:28:44.000 I mean, if you have a weaponized federal police force, which is what the FBI is, And then you have the ATF and the DEA and all these unconstitutional, illegal, immoral institutions that are willing to just prosecute political dissidents all across the board for years and they have nothing to fear.

01:29:00.000 They have nothing to fear because they are ultimately able to threaten our elected representatives on top of everything else.

01:29:06.000 This has to be addressed.

01:29:08.000 If it isn't, we don't have a country.

01:29:09.000 That's a fact.

01:29:09.000 And we have to be clear, we don't want John Bolton.

01:29:13.000 We don't want Mike Pompeo.

01:29:15.000 We don't want Bill Barr.

01:29:16.000 We don't want Nikki Haley. 0.98

01:29:18.000 All those individuals were appointed by Donald Trump.

01:29:21.000 There needs to be pushback against this.

01:29:22.000 There needs to be criticism against this so it doesn't happen again.

01:29:25.000 It's not hate.

01:29:26.000 It's not derangement.

01:29:26.000 It's just, I need better than what we got.

01:29:29.000 Yeah.

01:29:29.000 We can't have another John Bolton in there.

01:29:31.000 We can't.

01:29:32.000 No.

01:29:32.000 We can't.

01:29:34.000 There's a lot at stake here.

01:29:35.000 Look, I think that we also need to recognize the fact that Donald Trump, right, he's not a politician, okay?

01:29:40.000 This is a guy who ran for office.

01:29:42.000 You look at Joe Biden.

01:29:43.000 He ran for president, what, three times, okay, over the course of his political career?

01:29:47.000 At least.

01:29:48.000 And so you have Donald Trump, who is a businessman.

01:29:50.000 He didn't need this, okay?

01:29:51.000 He's a billionaire, could be living a very glamorous lifestyle, and he ran for the first time.

01:29:56.000 He wins, and I think that You know, there's—I'm not saying that President Trump's naive, but I think that when you win and you're thrown into this and you're like, wow, I really won and I'm president of the United States now, you're going to kind of trust and think that the people in the Republican Party are going to have your back.

01:30:12.000 And what we all realized, I think we all kind of—we didn't really— I mean, we always knew there was a uniparty, but it was really accelerated when Donald Trump was in the White House because we got to see firsthand, wow, the Republicans are not just as evil as the Democrats.

01:30:25.000 I think they're even worse than the Democrats.

01:30:27.000 And they surrounded Donald Trump and they sabotaged him.

01:30:30.000 They undermined him.

01:30:32.000 We had control of the House and the Senate his first two years in the White House.

01:30:35.000 And look what they did.

01:30:36.000 And I think that Donald Trump learned a lesson.

01:30:39.000 This is a guy who values loyalty.

01:30:40.000 And I think that he expects the same type of loyalty from others that he gives them.

01:30:45.000 And the rude awakening that he had, unfortunately, was that you can't expect people to be loyal to 0.52

01:30:51.000 you even if you are loyal to them because these people are all snakes. And I don't know if President

01:30:56.000 Trump is ever going to necessarily admit that in full because I think that he has somewhat of a 0.85

01:31:03.000 narcissistic personality.

01:31:04.000 I think that's a good thing, though.

01:31:05.000 You want the President of the United States to be a narcissist, because you need to be the most powerful person in the world.

01:31:13.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with being a narcissist, so I'm not attacking Trump when I say he has a narcissistic personality. 0.53

01:31:20.000 But sometimes when you have that type of personality, you don't want to necessarily admit, yeah, this person probably shouldn't have surrounded me because they screwed me and I was the person that appointed them.

01:31:32.000 There is no one more right or die on earth than you for joining us.

01:31:36.000 Ready to report for duty.

01:31:37.000 He needs people around him that tell him when he's wrong and people that disagree with him that tell him why they disagree.

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01:32:44.000 So let's read your Super Chats.

01:32:46.000 Voice of the People says, Biden has filed a motion to stop the Texas National Guard

01:32:50.000 from protecting their border.

01:32:52.000 The president is openly and flagrantly committing treason now.

01:32:55.000 Seditious conspiracy.

01:32:57.000 Treason is aiding and abetting an enemy in a time of conflict.

01:33:00.000 Sedition is trying to destroy or unravel a nation.

01:33:04.000 So I would call it a seditious conspiracy.

01:33:07.000 Jacob Paradis says Rand Paul just nuked Nikki Haley.

01:33:10.000 Did you mean Nikki Hillary?

01:33:13.000 Alright, where are we at?

01:33:14.000 She might get excited about that.

01:33:16.000 Hearing nukes.

01:33:17.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.' 's gang, anyone leaving with a different view of the Iowa caucus?

01:33:21.000 Or maybe any noteworthy takeaways from everyone's time in Iowa?

01:33:24.000 Hashtag never Nikki.

01:33:25.000 The caucus is Monday!

01:33:26.000 Yeah, I got an interesting perspective because being here I'm like, oh Vivek's got this in the bag.

01:33:31.000 Like when you feel the energy of the people around you, and that's like a confirmation bias.

01:33:34.000 So it's like when you're, the people you're surrounded by can definitely make you think things are going your way.

01:33:40.000 And I know that once I pull out of this environment, it's like, dude, Trump was pulling at 78% on that predictive market.

01:33:46.000 Well, that's- so that's the- those are predictions based on, uh, how people feel about things, and it's like, ask the audience and who wants to be a millionaire.

01:33:53.000 Here's what I would love to see.

01:33:54.000 I've seen the photos from Vivek.

01:33:56.000 I know that he's doing event after event after event.

01:33:58.000 I'd love to see second place.

01:34:00.000 I'd love to see Niki and DeSantis in, like, low single digits, and Vivek in, like, 10%.

01:34:05.000 I think that it's a possibility.

01:34:07.000 I've been saying this because people have asked me all week.

01:34:10.000 I've done a lot of interviews and people say, oh, you know, what's your feeling on the ground?

01:34:13.000 Just like the Super Chatter just asked. 0.83

01:34:15.000 I think Trump's going to win overwhelmingly.

01:34:17.000 I think that Vivek is going to shock everyone and come in second because he, like I said, his work ethic is amazing.

01:34:23.000 He's done over, what, 250 events in the last two weeks alone, doing 12 events in one day.

01:34:28.000 And Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis really don't have a lot of people at their events, I would know, because I've been thrown out of them.

01:34:34.000 You have Vivek showing up.

01:34:36.000 Donald Trump has the largest crowds, and then it's Vivek.

01:34:39.000 I think he's going to come in second, and then you're going to see Nikki and DeSantis battle it out for third and fourth.

01:34:45.000 The real Raul Camacho says, what if, as an electoral strategy, the DOJ arrests enough J6 protesters from key battleground states to depress the GOP vote in November? 0.55

01:34:54.000 How can we track this if it indeed starts happening?

01:34:57.000 There are 1,700 or so convictions, and they've promised to do thousands more, but even if they got to around 10,000 people, The issue would have to be, and it's a good point, because we're not concerned about... This strategy doesn't play well nationally.

01:35:12.000 I think we're concerned about the J6ers generally, but the concern in the election would be if he goes to like Ohio and arrests 5,000 people. 1.00

01:35:19.000 Then all of a sudden it's like, okay, hold on there a minute.

01:35:21.000 Now he's arresting likely people who could vote against him.

01:35:25.000 So that's when it gets scary.

01:35:27.000 Tracking that?

01:35:28.000 I suppose it's really difficult.

01:35:29.000 It's really, really difficult, because most people don't even know, they can't even name four or five people who have been convicted.

01:35:35.000 Now, of course, you've got, you know, Joe Biggs, you've got Enrique Tarrio.

01:35:39.000 We know about the higher profile individuals.

01:35:40.000 But once again, the main issue is, there were hundreds of thousands of people there.

01:35:44.000 The DOJ is now saying they're going to go after the thousands of people who are standing around and never went in the building.

01:35:48.000 And we're not going to learn these people's names because they don't have the means to get press and get attention.

01:35:53.000 So it is a good point.

01:35:54.000 I don't think it'll play as big of a role, but we should definitely pay attention.

01:35:57.000 Did you say there have been over 1,000 convictions?

01:36:00.000 I read from Time Magazine, this was last year I guess, that there were over 1,000 people been arrested, only 400 of them had been convicted at that point.

01:36:07.000 I think it's 900 now.

01:36:08.000 Convictions?

01:36:08.000 I heard 1,700 convictions.

01:36:10.000 Oh really?

01:36:10.000 Wow.

01:36:10.000 And how many arrests?

01:36:12.000 And didn't Matthew Graves just the other day say that now they're going to start arresting people that didn't just go inside but were in the vicinity?

01:36:18.000 So now you can be arrested and jailed over J6 if you showed up.

01:36:22.000 Okay, I was wrong.

01:36:23.000 It was so far 730 convictions and then like 1,800 arrests or something?

01:36:28.000 730.

01:36:29.000 It was not 1,700.

01:36:30.000 It was 730.

01:36:31.000 I got that way wrong.

01:36:32.000 And was it a thousand arrests?

01:36:33.000 Has the arrest number gone up?

01:36:35.000 1,230 people.

01:36:36.000 It's like, that's like 40 percent.

01:36:38.000 So what is that?

01:36:39.000 Like 50?

01:36:40.000 Half the people that have been arrested or have actually been convicted, the other half are just waiting for three years.

01:36:45.000 They've just been waiting without charge?

01:36:47.000 It's not just that.

01:36:47.000 No, no.

01:36:48.000 There are some people who are getting charged several years later.

01:36:52.000 And so what's happening is, interestingly, they're saying, like, there's a question of the statute of limitations for some of these crimes.

01:36:58.000 So now they're trying other crimes that have longer statutes of limitation.

01:37:02.000 I was talking to someone... I'll put it this way.

01:37:07.000 If you were there for any reason, LawyerUp.

01:37:11.000 You're a journalist?

01:37:12.000 Yeah, nice try saying, but I had a press pass.

01:37:14.000 LawyerUp.

01:37:15.000 If you worked for the New York Times?

01:37:17.000 Okay, yeah.

01:37:18.000 You'll be fine.

01:37:19.000 If you worked for a conservative or independent outlet, even with credentials, even congressional credentials?

01:37:23.000 Lawyer up.

01:37:24.000 But see, what I would like to see from Trump is the congressional representatives that withheld exculpatory evidence on behalf of his supporters.

01:37:34.000 Why aren't we talking about prosecuting these people?

01:37:36.000 If it's not criminal, how is it not?

01:37:40.000 How is it not criminal to hold exculpatory evidence?

01:37:43.000 The entire framing of this event was all predicated off of withholding of the footage Yeah.

01:37:49.000 that was only trickled out later on, which is, I think, why many of these people have

01:37:53.000 been given early release. It's just it's criminal. It's obviously criminal what's happened.

01:37:57.000 Yeah. Well, you even have people like President Bukele of El Salvador, which used to be considered

01:38:05.000 the most dangerous country in the world, known as a third world hellhole, and now he's completely 0.85

01:38:10.000 transformed it.

01:38:11.000 And people who are now governing previous third world nations are calling out our country for holding political prisoners and having egregious human rights violations.

01:38:20.000 So we can't really be calling ourselves the exporters of democracy or the world's police or the world's moral authority because, look, we're no better.

01:38:29.000 I think that we really are a third world country now.

01:38:31.000 I don't know if you would agree, but we don't have free speech.

01:38:34.000 We don't have freedom of association.

01:38:35.000 We don't have free and fair elections.

01:38:37.000 We don't really even have a free market economy anymore when you look at the debanking and the financial blacklisting.

01:38:43.000 And we have political prisoners.

01:38:44.000 Well, you haven't had a free market since you had a central bank.

01:38:46.000 But I completely agree with you that on top of the financial depravity, we also have a total shredding of our civil rights.

01:38:53.000 And this has all transpired in my lifetime.

01:38:56.000 Basically, from 9-11 on, it has just been a rapid descent.

01:38:59.000 And we are no longer that shining city on the hill.

01:39:01.000 We are now a warning to the rest of the world as to what not to do.

01:39:05.000 That's tragic.

01:39:05.000 That's tragic that I live in this country because I love this country.

01:39:09.000 And I can't believe what's happening just in my adult lifetime.

01:39:11.000 It's unbelievable.

01:39:12.000 We got a super chat from Billy Cho Cho.

01:39:15.000 Biden admin is committing treason right in front of us with the open border allowing potential enemies through.

01:39:20.000 The effort is probably to escalate the civil war to become hot before the next election.

01:39:24.000 Well, I'm careful.

01:39:25.000 I say sedition because it's generalized.

01:39:28.000 But there is a good point to be made that it's already been reported potential terrorists, people, actually, no, outright people on the terror watch list have come through the southern border with the bombing.

01:39:38.000 So we got news breaking during the show, actually, that the US and UK engaged in additional airstrikes in Yemen.

01:39:45.000 There's video of hundreds of thousands of Yemenis protesting and calling out the United States.

01:39:54.000 You are very likely to see people try to come in to hurt this country through this insecure border.

01:39:59.000 But I will tell you this.

01:40:01.000 I certainly fear the prospect of, let's say it, civil war.

01:40:05.000 Drink!

01:40:05.000 Why?

01:40:06.000 What did I say?

01:40:06.000 Hold on.

01:40:07.000 Come on, guys.

01:40:08.000 Here's what scares me.

01:40:10.000 I am not right about everything all the time.

01:40:12.000 I'm wrong about a lot of things.

01:40:13.000 I'm wrong a lot.

01:40:14.000 And I love it when the people in the chat are like, Tim thinks he's right.

01:40:15.000 If I'm arguing a point that I think I'm right on, of course I think I'm right about that.

01:40:18.000 But I think I'm wrong about a bunch of things.

01:40:20.000 And so I don't know what happens next.

01:40:22.000 But I gotta tell ya, shout out to Dave Smith, when he came on the show and he pointed this out to me and he said, shout out to you for something you said on the Joe Rogan podcast, that if they kept up this kind of censorship and manipulation, this country's headed towards civil war.

01:40:35.000 Now we have the National Guard, the Texas National Guard deployed, armed, to block federal agents from continuing their traffic operation trafficking operation.

01:40:46.000 My fear is, we enter the point where, it's exactly what I said, National Guard is enforcing the law as per their orders, federal law enforcement enforces the law as per their orders, and you get a guy in military gear, a federal agent walks up and says, I got orders to clear all you guys out of here.

01:41:03.000 Let's say a federal truck pulls up at APC, guys jump out in body armor and weapons, and they say, CBP, this is our jurisdiction, it's a federal border, back the F up now.

01:41:12.000 And the Texas state guys say, no, We have governor's orders and we don't answer to you.

01:41:17.000 My fear is somebody shoot somebody.

01:41:22.000 Federal officers, federal agents in armor shooting at Texas National Guard?

01:41:26.000 Yeah.

01:41:27.000 I mean, that's a moment that you don't really come back from.

01:41:31.000 And I'll tell you how many people right now are going to say, oh, that'll never happen.

01:41:36.000 Let's play the time travel game.

01:41:37.000 I go back eight years when Donald Trump is running and I say to you, Eight years from now, Texas National Guard will be armed and deployed to the southern border to stop federal agents who are facilitating human smuggling.

01:41:50.000 They're gonna say, shut up! 1.00

01:41:53.000 Are you nuts? 0.99

01:41:54.000 The states will never send out armed military to try and block federal agents from engaging in operations. 0.91

01:42:03.000 Here we are.

01:42:04.000 Who would have ever thought that federal officials would be so obviously going against, like, not just the will of the nation, but also their directives, their responsibilities in office, that the states would have to do this.

01:42:04.000 We're here.

01:42:19.000 I mean, that's really where we're at.

01:42:22.000 There's no doubt that, like, Abbott didn't want to do this.

01:42:26.000 Like, he feels compelled.

01:42:27.000 He feels that there's the political will in his state because the issue is so severe.

01:42:32.000 And I don't blame him.

01:42:33.000 Like, if there's one responsibility for a state governor, it's to prevent invasion.

01:42:38.000 And if you have hundreds of thousands that are coming across your border every month, you can't describe it as anything other than an invasion. 0.69

01:42:44.000 Yep.

01:42:45.000 And we've seen this years ago, when they were marching in huge groups of thousands, waving the banners of their countries.

01:42:52.000 And I'm like, hey, that kind of looks like an invasion.

01:42:56.000 And I got to tell you, people say, but they're not armed.

01:42:58.000 Listen.

01:43:00.000 Warfare does not—people think war means a guy with a gun shooting at a guy with a gun.

01:43:05.000 War is the state of conflict and a battle over resources, influence, and control.

01:43:11.000 It takes many forms.

01:43:12.000 The earliest eras of war, it was throwing rocks at each other.

01:43:15.000 It got to the point of nuclear bombs, but now we have information warfare.

01:43:19.000 And so if you were trying to invade a country and you know It doesn't matter what you call it.

01:43:25.000 What matters is how do we win.

01:43:26.000 And if you're like, if we storm the border armed, they'll mow us down with their more powerful weapons.

01:43:31.000 If we manipulate the psyche of the American people into saying, help, help, we're but harmless refugees, we can storm in, and that's why you don't come with weapons.

01:43:40.000 Now they can't do anything to stop you.

01:43:43.000 That's why a lot of them are coming with a weapon in their mind, right, the ideology.

01:43:47.000 So look at the jihadists, right, that are coming across.

01:43:49.000 You don't necessarily need to have a physical weapon, right, to be armed.

01:43:53.000 A lot of them are armed with a toxic ideology, a backward ideology. 0.58

01:43:58.000 And that's what They're trying to push in our country and push all around the world.

01:44:01.000 Again, I will reiterate once again, this is why we need President Donald Trump back in the White House.

01:44:05.000 And as you said earlier, Tim, you're worried that people from Yemen are going to try to retaliate now against the United States by coming here.

01:44:12.000 Well, who had the solution to that?

01:44:14.000 Donald J. Trump with his travel ban, right?

01:44:17.000 So we got to get President Trump back in the White House. 0.70

01:44:20.000 He said he's going to implement his travel ban again to keep all these crazy jihadists out of our country on day one. 0.98

01:44:26.000 We have Andrew Ho. 0.57

01:44:28.000 He says, Sorry to burst your bubble.

01:44:29.000 Every president is a dictator for one day.

01:44:31.000 Their first day in office, all they do is sign dictatorial executive orders.

01:44:36.000 Agree and disagree.

01:44:37.000 I think the general idea the founding fathers had with the executive branch and executive orders is brilliant.

01:44:44.000 I think the modern version of it is corruption.

01:44:46.000 The idea is actually really simple.

01:44:48.000 The executive branch, you're the commander-in-chief, you're in charge of the armed forces and all its branches, and you oversee law enforcement at the federal level, which means executive order could be like this.

01:44:57.000 From now on, DEA agents do not raid dispensaries across the country.

01:45:03.000 It's a waste of time and resources.

01:45:05.000 That is not dictatorial.

01:45:06.000 That is the head of law enforcement saying, we're not going to deal with that, we're going to prioritize something else.

01:45:12.000 However, to actually enforce a law, you need legislature to determine it.

01:45:18.000 So the general idea of an executive order is fine, except what's happening now is things like Barack Obama doing amnesty through executive order, and that's where we're at.

01:45:26.000 You get Andrew Cuomo, for instance, in New York, executive order, you can't go to church anymore.

01:45:31.000 And when they sue and say that violates the First Amendment, he goes, okay, I'll take it down.

01:45:34.000 Now I'm going to make another one saying the exact same thing.

01:45:36.000 Sue me again.

01:45:37.000 That's dictatorial.

01:45:38.000 And that's where we're at.

01:45:39.000 So I agree exactly with what you're saying.

01:45:41.000 I think it shouldn't be that way.

01:45:42.000 And the general concept is fine, but we've got too much corruption.

01:45:45.000 I got to give one big, big credit to Donald Trump, even though he did it in the last year of his presidency, and I wish he had done it sooner.

01:45:51.000 His executive order to remove Barack Obama's executive order, which mandated that there be diversity, equity and inclusion departments in every federal agency in this nation.

01:46:00.000 That was huge.

01:46:01.000 That was really, really smart of him.

01:46:03.000 Of course, Joe Biden undid it day one of his presidency, but I hope that Trump is preparing to remove that once again.

01:46:10.000 He said during his speech in Iowa the other day, I mean he's given many speeches in Iowa, but this last weekend I was there he said that we're going to restore merit in our country and he was emphasizing the fact that we need to start hiring people that are qualified for their positions as opposed to giving people positions based off the color of their skin or their sexual orientation.

01:46:30.000 We have a good one here.

01:46:30.000 Michael A. says, I'm an anchor baby and I served in the military for eight years from 2001 to 2008.

01:46:36.000 Laura wants to deport me. 1.00

01:46:37.000 Why?

01:46:37.000 I am more American than she will ever be.

01:46:39.000 I'm an immigrant who served the country during war.

01:46:42.000 Man, explain to me why does Laura want me deported, please. 0.85

01:46:45.000 Well, I'm talking about our Constitution as it relates to Nikki Haley being president of the United States, right?

01:46:52.000 We were talking about people who were qualified to be president.

01:46:55.000 And per our Constitution and the Founding Fathers, you have to be a natural-born citizen.

01:46:59.000 To be a natural-born citizen, one of your parents has to be a citizen at your time of

01:47:05.000 birth.

01:47:06.000 Both of Nikki Haley's parents at the time of her birth were not citizens of the United

01:47:11.000 States.

01:47:12.000 They had been in this country from India, I believe, for only three years before she

01:47:16.000 was born.

01:47:17.000 Her mother didn't even try to become a citizen until 2003.

01:47:20.000 And so technically speaking, right?

01:47:22.000 She is what we call an anchor baby.

01:47:25.000 She has birthright citizenship.

01:47:27.000 And that's one of the reasons why our country is being invaded right now, because there's been a bastardization and a reinterpretation of what it means to be a natural-born citizen.

01:47:35.000 And people want to bend the rules and give citizenship to people who are anchor babies. 0.92

01:47:40.000 And yeah, OK, you served our country.

01:47:41.000 Thank you so much for your service.

01:47:43.000 But the reality is, is that... Now get out!

01:47:46.000 No, I'm saying that we...

01:47:50.000 We need to have a serious conversation going forward in this country.

01:47:53.000 We have not enforced our laws, or our lawmakers have not enforced the laws, and as a result, now we have been overrun by migrants who are replacing the actual natural-born populations of the United States of America with themselves. 1.00

01:48:09.000 These people aren't coming and having 10 kids.

01:48:11.000 According to United States v. Wong Kim Ark, Supreme Court ruling, you are a natural-born citizen if you were born on U.S.

01:48:18.000 soil regardless of your parents' citizenship status.

01:48:22.000 Now that's a Supreme Court ruling.

01:48:24.000 And so the argument that we're seeing now is, the founding fathers never intended for that to be the case.

01:48:29.000 So an argument was made based on the 14th Amendment of the Supreme Court.

01:48:32.000 The Supreme Court agreed, your parents don't have to be citizens if you're born here, you're a citizen.

01:48:35.000 I think that's wrong.

01:48:36.000 Birthright citizen.

01:48:37.000 However.

01:48:37.000 You're a birthright citizen.

01:48:38.000 You're not a natural-born citizen.

01:48:40.000 Well, so— You're a citizen if you're born here, regardless of whether your parents are citizens.

01:48:43.000 But that's what we're talking about, right?

01:48:45.000 The difference between birthright citizenship and natural-born citizenship.

01:48:49.000 But, no, I don't see the distinction.

01:48:51.000 I'm saying the founding fathers, I do not believe, intended for it to be.

01:48:55.000 Anyone could just come here, give birth, and then bang that kid. 1.00

01:48:57.000 Like, let's be honest. 0.99

01:48:59.000 Native American.

01:49:01.000 In living in a city in the late 1700s, had a kid, they did not believe that kid was a citizen.

01:49:07.000 They're like, you're Native American, you're not a citizen of our country. 1.00

01:49:11.000 And it changed after the 40th Amendment, after the Civil War, then the Supreme Court ruling.

01:49:15.000 These things are entirely interpretable.

01:49:17.000 But I would say this, I don't think someone like Michael should be deported.

01:49:21.000 Someone who was born here, grew up here, loves this country, served this country, is exactly the kind of person we need.

01:49:25.000 And I think the concern I have, I'm not anti-immigration.

01:49:29.000 I would love I don't think he should be deported either, for the record, because I don't want to be accused of not answering his question.

01:49:36.000 I'm talking about the people that are coming across our border.

01:49:39.000 You know, a lot of people plan their journeys to America with their pregnancy.

01:49:45.000 They say, okay, I'm going to get pregnant, and then I'm going to make my journey across the border, and then I'm going to give birth, and then they're going to make me stay, because what are they going to do?

01:49:53.000 Separate me and my child?

01:49:55.000 That's immigration fraud, and we shouldn't be Allowing for criminal illegal alien invaders. 1.00

01:50:01.000 I have an idea.

01:50:02.000 How about our immigration program?

01:50:04.000 It's not a moratorium.

01:50:05.000 We allow immigration, but we can only allow one new immigrant who comes in legally through a process.

01:50:12.000 They have a certain amount of time to learn and to pass a civics test, but a leftist has to leave.

01:50:20.000 I'm totally on board.

01:50:21.000 Can we send some rhinos too? 0.93

01:50:23.000 I want to get rid of a lot of Republicans too. 0.92

01:50:25.000 Not just leftists.

01:50:26.000 I love this meme where it's like some socialist Antifa person goes to Venezuela as an exchange program.

01:50:31.000 The people desperate to flee this country who want to be American so desperately, we'll take them and the American leftist commies can go to Venezuela and then we're better off.

01:50:41.000 Works for me.

01:50:43.000 But what's the problem?

01:50:44.000 I mean, if they're communists, they'd be like, I'd love to go live in this socialist utopia.

01:50:47.000 Go to China.

01:50:48.000 Enjoy.

01:50:49.000 Cuba.

01:50:49.000 Cuba's open.

01:50:50.000 Venezuela.

01:50:51.000 All right.

01:50:52.000 467 Sprite says, 26, MAGA anchor baby here from Anaheim.

01:50:55.000 We're part of the silent majority as well.

01:50:57.000 Our parents came to America for its prosperity and freedoms.

01:50:59.000 I see no point in their sacrifice.

01:51:01.000 If it rots, we exist to save it.

01:51:03.000 What happens to us?

01:51:04.000 And I want to hold on there a minute.

01:51:06.000 If your parents came here legally and then gave birth to you, you are not an anchor baby.

01:51:11.000 But if you are actually saying your parents came here illegally because of its prosperity and its freedoms, this is not good.

01:51:18.000 This is someone who said, I don't care for your country's laws.

01:51:21.000 I want prosperity and I will take the prosperity by breaking your laws.

01:51:26.000 We call that theft.

01:51:27.000 We call that crime.

01:51:29.000 Unless you're Nikki Haley because she said, I'm sure you saw the video, right?

01:51:32.000 Did you see the video?

01:51:33.000 Of Nikki Haley saying that we shouldn't be calling illegal aliens criminals.

01:51:37.000 They're not criminals.

01:51:38.000 They're just people who want a better life. 0.99

01:51:39.000 So I guess the criminal illegal alien that, you know, that gang raped a five-year-old girl, right? 0.94

01:51:44.000 He's not a criminal. 1.00

01:51:44.000 He just wants a better life by raping little girls. 1.00

01:51:46.000 Let's say I go to my good friend Clint over here and say, I would like that phone. 0.99

01:51:50.000 What can I do to get that phone?

01:51:53.000 And you say, here is the process by which I accept the transfer of my phone to you.

01:51:57.000 I say, okay, I will engage in that.

01:51:58.000 Now there's the alternative, which is illegal immigration, where I walk up, grab the phone and run.

01:52:04.000 Coming into this country illegally may be because it's for its freedom and prosperity, but you're basically saying you're taking it from the community by force.

01:52:11.000 Now, as for you, 467 Sprite, I got nothing against you.

01:52:15.000 You're an American.

01:52:16.000 You love America.

01:52:17.000 You were born here.

01:52:18.000 You believe in this country.

01:52:18.000 It's Founding Fathers.

01:52:19.000 It's vision.

01:52:20.000 If your parents assimilated and really did believe in it, it's a good thing. 1.00

01:52:23.000 I still would say, It's fine to say there's a difference between someone who comes here illegally for Buffalo Wild Wings, which is, I'm not making that up, an illegal immigrant was interviewed and said, I want B-dubs, and someone saying America is the shining city on the hill who believe in civil rights and freedoms and I will do anything to get there. 0.82

01:52:40.000 There's a difference between those people, and I can respect that, but I would simply say, Look, man, if you come here illegally, you are not respectfully asking us to bring you into the fold. 0.95

01:52:52.000 You are insulting and disrespecting us.

01:52:54.000 Well, I don't totally disagree, but I will say this.

01:52:58.000 If it comes down to a bunch of Cubans that are fleeing communism, I don't care.

01:53:05.000 Yes, the first foot that they make on this soil will be illegal, but I still think that's a net benefit to this country because these are people that are really sincerely—to the point that they're willing to risk their lives.

01:53:17.000 That's how much they oppose communism.

01:53:18.000 I love those people.

01:53:19.000 I mean, we have homeless veterans sleeping on the streets of America.

01:53:22.000 Bank robbers are willing to risk their lives to steal.

01:53:24.000 We don't say, oh, it's so honorable and noble, you risked your life to steal money from us.

01:53:27.000 No, but it's because they're not trying to steal.

01:53:29.000 They're trying to actually uphold the American value set.

01:53:33.000 But they're going to be a burden on our system because, let's be honest, they're coming from communism.

01:53:36.000 They don't have any money.

01:53:37.000 They're going to need somebody to support them.

01:53:40.000 I mean, look, you can have this humanitarian spirit and want to help people and say, wow, they're fleeing communism, but who's going to be paying their bills?

01:53:46.000 It's going to be us.

01:53:47.000 I don't want to pay their bills.

01:53:49.000 I totally disagree with this because if we're gonna start going down that path, I would greatly prefer to see Ivy League college graduates deported and bring in Cubans. 1.00

01:54:00.000 Like honestly, the country would be way better off if every Ivy League Well, but it's not really true.

01:54:06.000 to China and we were just bringing in people from communist states.

01:54:06.000 It's not really true.

01:54:06.000 It wouldn't.

01:54:09.000 Well, but it's not really true. It's not real.

01:54:11.000 No, it would be totally better. It wouldn't.

01:54:14.000 I am 100% serious. I'm not saying it would be like, I'm not saying it would be legal.

01:54:17.000 I'm not saying I would actually advocate for it. I'm just saying outcome wise,

01:54:21.000 our country would be way better off if the Marxist kids that are coming out of college

01:54:24.000 were just immediately launched into outer space. It'd be tremendously better.

01:54:27.000 Now, hold on. Can we set up like a moon base?

01:54:31.000 Yeah, but no, we're still gonna be safe up there.

01:54:32.000 I'm not trying to hurt anybody.

01:54:33.000 No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on.

01:54:35.000 I was being cute.

01:54:35.000 I'm like, this is a program I can get behind.

01:54:37.000 We create a moon base in a Mars colony, and we're like, we are going to have you guys colonize the moon, then Mars, and I'll tell you why.

01:54:43.000 It is not because I want to laugh, haha, we're gonna blast them off the moon.

01:54:46.000 I think roughing it in a little hardship will toughen them up, give them a good understanding of what it means to be responsible for yourself.

01:54:53.000 But also, they may actually agree to it because it's an honor to be the first human to colonize Mars.

01:54:57.000 This is a problem with all this illegal immigration is it's turning people off from accepting actual refugees.

01:55:02.000 People that are literally fleeing their own demise and death from tyranny.

01:55:07.000 But where?

01:55:07.000 From Mexico or Canada?

01:55:08.000 I don't even care.

01:55:09.000 on earth at this point.

01:55:10.000 Like if there are real refugees... 1.00

01:55:11.000 Why do we need to be accepting refugees? 1.00

01:55:12.000 No, no, no, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

01:55:13.000 Who?

01:55:14.000 We're supposed to be able to.

01:55:15.000 Okay, guys, pause, pause, pause.

01:55:16.000 If someone from Mexico is being attacked by the cartels and they come to me and they say,

01:55:21.000 please save me, this man's going to kill me, I say, okay, what can I do?

01:55:24.000 If someone from Canada says, Justin Trudeau is going to kill me, I need help, I say, okay,

01:55:28.000 what can I do?

01:55:29.000 Those aren't real refugees.

01:55:30.000 Not a real refugee is a guy who comes from Africa and pays three grand to fly to South America, takes a bus all the way through Mexico, and then comes to our border. 0.97

01:55:38.000 They're not real refugees. 1.00

01:55:39.000 That's my point.

01:55:39.000 People are claiming refugee status, but they're not real refugees.

01:55:42.000 If they come from Mexico, you said those people aren't refugees.

01:55:44.000 I said they are.

01:55:45.000 If there is a real refugee that needs safety, America's here for you. 1.00

01:55:50.000 What's it?

01:55:50.000 And that's why I asked Mexico or Canada.

01:55:52.000 Yeah, it depends on the situation.

01:55:53.000 Like if Trudeau's literally hunting a man down and gonna kill him and the guy flees to the U.S., okay, yeah.

01:55:58.000 But they are, though.

01:55:59.000 I would rather take political refugees in America as opposed to, from the Western world, as opposed to these third-world migrants who are saying that they're... They don't exist?

01:56:08.000 Canadians? 0.99

01:56:08.000 Listen, Canadians are pretty bad. 0.99

01:56:10.000 The Canadians are being persecuted.

01:56:12.000 There's people going to jail in Canada for misgendering people.

01:56:15.000 I'm sorry, but that to me is, that's more of, I would consider somebody like that to be more of a refugee in need of asylum than some third world migrant who just wants to come move to the United States of America.

01:56:28.000 It's not a question.

01:56:29.000 There is no question when Mexico offered asylum to all these people in the caravan, there's a video of them asking, how many of you want to stay here, get amnesty in Mexico?

01:56:38.000 Nobody.

01:56:39.000 How many of you want to continue to America?

01:56:41.000 Yay! 0.99

01:56:41.000 They all cheer and scream. 0.99

01:56:42.000 They're not refugees. 0.85

01:56:43.000 Yeah, they're not.

01:56:44.000 A lot of these people are claiming refugee status and they're not even being questioned.

01:56:47.000 And so the issue is this.

01:56:49.000 You are correct, but there really are no Mexican and Canadian refugees.

01:56:53.000 It would probably be in the triple digits.

01:56:55.000 Yeah, it's very rare here.

01:56:56.000 A hundred people maybe.

01:56:58.000 If there was a civil war in a country, you could see a lot of those people fleeing.

01:57:00.000 You could see maybe Ukrainian refugees, maybe people from Gaza.

01:57:03.000 No.

01:57:04.000 They don't come here. 0.99

01:57:05.000 Why?

01:57:06.000 If you're in Ukraine and you're fleeing, you go to Poland.

01:57:08.000 They're next door.

01:57:09.000 You don't fly across the world to America.

01:57:11.000 That's a lie.

01:57:12.000 If someone's dealing with problems in Honduras, you go to Mexico.

01:57:16.000 Not even that, you go to Guatemala.

01:57:18.000 Why are they skipping through?

01:57:19.000 Mexico is awesome, by the way.

01:57:21.000 And Luke knows it.

01:57:22.000 I love Mexico.

01:57:23.000 This is what deeply offended me, because I go to Mexico City, and I'm like, it's a beautiful, massive city, and they got B-dubs all over the place. 1.00

01:57:29.000 Then I watch, I see this video of them saying, no, we won't stay.

01:57:33.000 A journalist interviews one of the migrants saying, why are you coming to America?

01:57:37.000 And he said, I miss Buffalo Wild Wings.

01:57:39.000 And I'm like, bro, they got that in Mexico.

01:57:43.000 It's amazing to me that you go to Tijuana, you go to Mexico City, and it's a beautiful place with great people, and they actually have cheaper healthcare.

01:57:50.000 These people who are coming through, they are lying to our faces that they're refugees. 1.00

01:57:54.000 Lying to our faces.

01:57:54.000 So if you're from Syria, if you're from Afghanistan, if you're from Iraq, and you were forced out of your country due to conflict, guess what?

01:58:02.000 Lebanon's right there waiting for you.

01:58:04.000 I knew, I met people I talked to two refugees from Syria.

01:58:08.000 One of them went to Romania, one went to Turkey.

01:58:11.000 And they were good dudes.

01:58:12.000 I respect them.

01:58:13.000 They're nice.

01:58:13.000 And I asked, why go to Romania?

01:58:16.000 Because you get access to Europe and there's more money.

01:58:20.000 I met a guy.

01:58:21.000 He was telling me he knew a woman who didn't speak any European language.

01:58:26.000 She spoke Arabic.

01:58:28.000 And she had an option.

01:58:29.000 Lebanon or Europe.

01:58:31.000 She chose Europe.

01:58:31.000 I said, why?

01:58:32.000 Well, because Europe's nicer.

01:58:33.000 And I'm like, but you could actually go to Lebanon, speak the language, get a job there.

01:58:40.000 It's easier to assimilate.

01:58:41.000 Now you're in a country where you don't speak the language.

01:58:43.000 They don't want to assimilate. 0.94

01:58:43.000 That's the thing. 0.94

01:58:44.000 These people don't want to assimilate.

01:58:46.000 That's the problem.

01:58:47.000 There's plenty of Lebanese people that are in Europe at this point.

01:58:50.000 Dude, it's really simple, man.

01:58:52.000 You're living in a big mansion, and you're paying $100 a month to sleep under the stairs in the basement, and some dude upstairs is paying $500 a month for a nice one-bedroom, and you're like, I'd rather live up there.

01:59:04.000 It's comfortable, there's a TV, so you kick the door in and you say, I'm staying here, do something about it.

01:59:08.000 That's what they're doing.

01:59:09.000 They're fleeing the shadows in the closet.

01:59:11.000 Well, this is why you can't have policies that make it at all possible for people to just come here with their hands out.

01:59:17.000 If you have that, You're going to create this crisis and the Biden administration and many administrations prior have continued this process and it has to be stopped.

01:59:25.000 That's why we need to ban birthright citizenship. 0.94

01:59:27.000 And I'll say it again.

01:59:28.000 Every single GOP candidate for president supports banning birthright citizenship except Nikki Haley.

01:59:33.000 And the only reason why she doesn't support it is because that would mean that she wouldn't be a citizen because she herself is a birthright citizen, and she's not qualified to be president. 0.59

01:59:42.000 She's not a natural born citizen.

01:59:44.000 President Trump even shared the article the other day that I wrote that was repurposed on Gateway Pundit explaining this.

01:59:49.000 So, you know, we can't have her, not just for her foreign policy, but also because Nikki Haley herself, because she was granted birthright citizenship, she has sympathy for these people that want to come and criminally invade our country and take over and, you know, just completely Let's get that intro to Super Chats different than the government propaganda. 1.00

02:00:08.000 identity.

02:00:09.000 One last super chat.

02:00:10.000 Three If by Treachery says, every time Tim talks about going to super chats, he sounds

02:00:13.000 like the PBS intro, Viewers Like You.

02:00:16.000 Tim, you are a boss.

02:00:17.000 Let's get that intro to super chats different than the government propaganda.

02:00:20.000 My friend, that's the joke.

02:00:22.000 I also say, would you kindly smash the like button, which is a Bioshock reference.

02:00:27.000 So when I say this show is funded in part by viewers like you, it's because I grew up watching PBS in Chicago.

02:00:31.000 Thank you for hanging out.

02:00:31.000 Interesting.

02:00:33.000 So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, and I'm going to fill you guys in.

02:00:38.000 Bioshock is one of the best video games ever made.

02:00:41.000 Luke, you definitely need to play Bioshock. 0.88

02:00:44.000 Very libertarian.

02:00:45.000 Yeah, very libertarian.

02:00:47.000 That one of the components of it, considering it's like a 20-something-year-old video game, spoiler alerts, the character is mind-controlled.

02:00:54.000 Whenever he's asked, would you kindly do something, he is compelled to do it.

02:00:58.000 So the bad guy would, if someone said, do a backflip, he'd be like, what?

02:01:00.000 But if he said, would you kindly do a backflip, he has to do it.

02:01:02.000 So, would you kindly smash that like button?

02:01:05.000 You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.

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02:01:08.000 Uh, Laura, you want to shout anything out?

02:01:10.000 Yeah, I have a show on Rumble.

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02:01:26.000 Laura, thank you so much for coming.

02:01:27.000 I'm gonna make a t-shirt saying, I survived the scrimming match with Laura Loomer on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.

02:01:34.000 No one's ever survived, though.

02:01:37.000 Nobody ever survives, Luke.

02:01:38.000 Oh, man.

02:01:40.000 But me and Clint have a show.

02:01:42.000 You're welcome to come on the show as well.

02:01:43.000 We could argue and scream at each other all the time.

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02:01:48.000 I wish we had more time to talk about him.

02:01:50.000 We talked about him on The Best Political Show for A very long time.

02:01:55.000 Check out that conversation.

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02:02:02.000 I want to give a quick shout out to RealHydroPX.

02:02:04.000 This dude.

02:02:05.000 I love you, buddy.

02:02:07.000 Look, man, your tweets, your superchats make me laugh.

02:02:09.000 He's just, like, constantly attacking and roasting me.

02:02:12.000 I know!

02:02:12.000 I'm looking at all of it!

02:02:14.000 And roasting me, too, very heavily!

02:02:15.000 And I'm like, if you're gonna roast me, roast me on thebestpoliticalshow.com!

02:02:18.000 I mean, you can!

02:02:18.000 But he's giving me, like, a hundred... No, no, no!

02:02:20.000 I've seen it! 0.99

02:02:21.000 Every five minutes, I'm like, damn! 0.99

02:02:24.000 Another one! 0.99

02:02:25.000 I forgot to say, you know, the Iowa caucus is in three days, and so please don't take it for granted.

02:02:30.000 We really need President Trump to win, and so please don't let the snow stop you from getting out and voting for President Trump.

02:02:36.000 If you need to learn how to caucus, you have to live in Iowa.

02:02:38.000 If you want to caucus, you can go to ia.donaldjtrump.com.

02:02:42.000 I-A as in Iowa.donaldjtrump.com, and you can learn how to caucus.

02:02:45.000 And anyone can do this, right?

02:02:47.000 Well, only if you live in Iowa.

02:02:49.000 No, that's what I mean, like, residents of Iowa can come out for this stuff.

02:02:52.000 Yeah, and if you're a Democrat, because I know you have Democrats that watch your show too, you're allowed to do same-day registration changes to vote in the caucus in Iowa, so you can actually change your registration to Republican and vote for Donald Trump in the Iowa caucus.

02:03:05.000 Right on.

02:03:05.000 Because we need to save our country, and Donald Trump's the only one that's going to do it.

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02:03:33.000 Thank you so much for having me, Tim.

02:03:34.000 It was great.

02:03:35.000 Thank you for coming, Clint.

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02:03:39.000 Check out We Are Change, the best political show.

02:03:41.000 They did an episode with Mike Cernovich talking about ayahuasca for an hour.

02:03:44.000 It was so good.

02:03:45.000 It was wild.

02:03:46.000 Oh, I want more psychedelics on this show.

02:03:48.000 Let's make it happen.

02:03:49.000 2024 is the year.

02:03:50.000 Laura Loomer, thank you very much.

02:03:52.000 Yeah, thanks for having me.

02:03:53.000 Last super chat.

02:03:54.000 The Real Hydra says, you know I love you.

02:03:56.000 Alright everybody, thanks for hanging out.

02:03:59.000 We'll see you all on Monday for our big show with a live audience.

02:04:04.000 It's going to be an extra hour long.

02:04:05.000 We're not doing the members only because we're doing a three hour show from 8 to 11.

02:04:09.000 It's going to be epic and we will see you all then.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 13, 2024

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