Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - U.S Navy Detected Ocean Gate Submersible TRAGIC Implosion On Sunday w-Ron Coleman

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:12.000 you ladies and gentlemen boys and girls

00:00:34.000 welcome to another episode of of Shimcast IRL.

00:00:39.000 I am so excited to be here with a number of several guests.

00:00:43.000 Some of you have been asking about guest host Tim Pool, and when he's going to be back, he likes to hang out here with us. 0.92

00:00:50.000 Unfortunately, Tim Tim is a sick man. 0.98

00:00:56.000 Tim is sick. 0.99

00:00:57.000 And he's getting the help that he needs right now.

00:01:02.000 And so, we're all just gonna wish him well, and hope that he gets better soon.

00:01:08.000 In all seriousness, he should probably be back in a few days.

00:01:11.000 But technically, when I said he's a sick man, there was nothing factually incorrect about that.

00:01:15.000 That is literally true, right?

00:01:16.000 I mean, I have a lawyer here who can confirm that nothing I said was incorrect.

00:01:20.000 At this time, we have no further elucidations to add to your statement.

00:01:25.000 We do wish to reserve our right to make any additional amendments as might be required.

00:01:34.000 Yeah, well, it's interesting how my first time ever hosting the show, Tim was like, we need to send a lawyer in here just to fact check him and make sure he stays on point all night.

00:01:43.000 We have a number of stories tonight.

00:01:45.000 The Oceangate story, the tragic loss of the Oceangate CEO and his son on the Titan.

00:01:51.000 The Minnesota AG warns Target about their obligations to the LGBTQ community.

00:01:58.000 A Pentagon accounting error to the tune of $6.2 billion.

00:02:04.000 An IRS whistleblower talking about Hunter Biden and his investigation, as well as an

00:02:10.000 AI saying that conservative women are happier and more attractive. 0.96

00:02:15.000 We have all of the juicy stories just in time for Tim to be sick and for me to take over.

00:02:20.000 But let me tell you something, because I still care so much about my friend who's allowed for me to take the wheel tonight, I'm gonna ask all of you to go over to castbrew.com.

00:02:30.000 Check this out, alright?

00:02:31.000 For the cost of one bag of coffee, you can support my sick friend Tim.

00:02:38.000 And we will send you a bag of coffee in Thanksgiving.

00:02:42.000 Now, of course, I won't make any promises.

00:02:44.000 Again, we have a lawyer here.

00:02:45.000 You will go there.

00:02:46.000 You will purchase the coffee.

00:02:47.000 I can't tell you if it's going to have anything to do with Tim's recovery, but I think he'd feel a little bit better, at least with respect to his morale, if you guys purchased some cast brew coffee.

00:02:57.000 And also, it's going to make me look good.

00:02:59.000 He's going to say, look, you know, ShimCast hosted and we moved more product than usual.

00:03:03.000 What I'm telling you is I need this.

00:03:05.000 I need this.

00:03:06.000 So please, Cast Brew Coffee, or just castbrew.com, get yourself some coffee.

00:03:12.000 And while you're at it, I want you to head over to timcast.com and become a member. 0.99

00:03:16.000 You dirty dogs. 0.99

00:03:17.000 Alright, you're sitting here, you're watching this content. 0.99

00:03:19.000 Tim has built this massive platform so he could give you the news.

00:03:23.000 We're very grateful to him.

00:03:25.000 And if you are able to, we would massively appreciate it if you became a member, supported what he's doing, supported his mission, and help him grow out what he's trying to do here, which I think is a good thing, and I hope you all agree.

00:03:38.000 You'll also get access to the After Hours show, which is going to be pretty spicy.

00:03:43.000 So, now that I have sufficiently introduced the show, we have with us today the man who needs no introduction.

00:03:51.000 What's your name again?

00:03:53.000 I am Tim Pool.

00:03:56.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:03:56.000 We can't do this.

00:03:59.000 You're the legal expert here.

00:04:00.000 Are you able to impersonate him?

00:04:02.000 Why don't you sue me?

00:04:03.000 Oh, boy!

00:04:05.000 Bring it on!

00:04:05.000 I'm not the one who's gonna do that.

00:04:07.000 I'm saying that, like, Tim might have a case against you at this point.

00:04:09.000 No, actually, it would be the best thing I could do for Tim to actually speak in his voice in a way guaranteed to avoid any legal entanglements whatsoever.

00:04:21.000 Yeah, it's much appreciated.

00:04:22.000 That's why people hire you guys.

00:04:24.000 Issues related to Contagion and where he has been recently before this illness.

00:04:31.000 Yeah, yeah of course.

00:04:32.000 I'm Ron Coleman!

00:04:34.000 I'm Ron Coleman the lawyer on Twitter.

00:04:35.000 I mean there are other lawyers on Twitter but I'm the fun one.

00:04:39.000 He's not the only one.

00:04:41.000 I'm the fun one and I am so happy to be here and Everybody gave me little notes, little messages for Tim. 0.97

00:04:51.000 And, uh, I feel kind of like a schmuck, frankly. 0.96

00:04:54.000 Why's that? 0.96

00:04:55.000 Because Tim's not here.

00:04:56.000 Yeah.

00:04:57.000 Oh, they give you messages to pass along?

00:04:58.000 Yeah, tell Tim.

00:04:58.000 Not like, not like get, not like get well soon stuff.

00:05:00.000 No one gives a shit, please. 1.00

00:05:01.000 Oh, well maybe they're schmucks. 1.00

00:05:04.000 I want my friend to get better! 1.00

00:05:05.000 CassBrew.com, get some coffee.

00:05:07.000 We all do.

00:05:08.000 We all do.

00:05:09.000 You know what, that's enough out of you.

00:05:10.000 That's enough.

00:05:10.000 Listen, I could go.

00:05:13.000 No, we would like to continue this conversation, but Hannah Clare, she's really going to be the one digging India tonight. 0.97

00:05:18.000 She is a very solid reporter at TimCast.com, who has a few things to say about tonight's stories.

00:05:23.000 She has been gunning for beer since the second I walked in. 1.00

00:05:25.000 It's been a very, frankly, aggressive and pugnacious Yep, that's me, Hannah Clare, aggressive gremlin.

00:05:34.000 As you can tell, I think this will be a pretty contentious episode and I'm happy to be here.

00:05:38.000 My favorite part of this so far has been Ron saying, yeah, Seamus, sue me and see what those cartoons will do.

00:05:43.000 Oh my goodness.

00:05:44.000 I think that we're in for a show.

00:05:46.000 Obviously, we hope Tim gets better soon.

00:05:48.000 And if not, apparently there's a hostile takeover happening.

00:05:51.000 I'm not sure who's going to win.

00:05:52.000 And by the way, I'll just mention this.

00:05:54.000 Before you denigrate cartoonists, this was a phrase that was uttered at art school by the professors.

00:05:58.000 They said, the painters look down on the illustrators.

00:06:02.000 They say they're not real artists.

00:06:04.000 And the illustrators look down on the cartoonists and say they're not real artists, but no one tells a cartoonist that because a cartoonist can ruin your life.

00:06:09.000 Ian Crossland!

00:06:10.000 Hi, Seamus.

00:06:11.000 Good to have you on.

00:06:12.000 Thanks for having me.

00:06:12.000 Who's going to win tonight?

00:06:13.000 Everybody's going to win.

00:06:15.000 When people go to Casperoo Coffee, Casperoo.com that is, and buy their coffee, I think if we can get enough people, more people tonight to buy coffee than ever before, I think it's going to make a real statement.

00:06:26.000 Yeah, I think so too.

00:06:27.000 I think it's going to make me look good.

00:06:28.000 You were wrong in your intro.

00:06:29.000 What was I wrong about, homie? 1.00

00:06:30.000 You said the CEO of Oceangate's son died.

00:06:32.000 It wasn't the CEO's son.

00:06:33.000 Oh, thank you for fact-checking me.

00:06:34.000 I appreciate that.

00:06:34.000 It was another guy.

00:06:35.000 That's why you're here.

00:06:36.000 Pakistani businessman, Shahzad Dawood.

00:06:39.000 I think I got his name right.

00:06:40.000 And his son, Suleiman.

00:06:41.000 We'll talk more about it on the show.

00:06:42.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

00:06:43.000 Happy to see you guys.

00:06:45.000 Stay tuned.

00:06:45.000 We got Serge Duprea.

00:06:47.000 Yes.

00:06:48.000 Hi, I'm here guys.

00:06:49.000 Hopefully we'll keep this show on the rails.

00:06:51.000 I think we're doing a pretty good job so far.

00:06:53.000 And the good thing is that without Tim here after, you know, several nights in a row, no one's gonna know if we don't.

00:06:57.000 Exactly.

00:06:58.000 He's not gonna watch.

00:06:59.000 He's never gonna see this.

00:07:00.000 No, I mean no one.

00:07:02.000 I saw last night's numbers.

00:07:04.000 Ugh.

00:07:05.000 Wait till you see tonight's.

00:07:06.000 We're picking it back up.

00:07:08.000 We're picking it back up.

00:07:09.000 Alright.

00:07:10.000 Let's get started, y'all.

00:07:11.000 Let's get started.

00:07:11.000 Ian, I actually really appreciate you mentioning that because the information I had here was incorrect and I wouldn't want to spread anything untrue here.

00:07:18.000 Or send flowers to the wrong house.

00:07:19.000 Yeah, well, it's obviously a very, very sad story here.

00:07:25.000 We've been covering this.

00:07:26.000 We talked about this a little bit yesterday, so I'm going to read a letter that the OceanGate Expeditions Twitter account sent out earlier.

00:07:34.000 We're not going to read the whole thing, but I think the first line is certainly worth repeating, given it has the names of all the People who lost their lives they wrote we now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shazda Dawood and his son Suleiman Dawood, Harish Harding and Paul Henry

00:07:55.000 I'm sorry.

00:07:56.000 Hamish Harding.

00:07:57.000 Hamish Harding, that's my mistake, and Paul Hardy-Nargalet have sadly been lost.

00:08:03.000 So, they go on to say that these men were explorers who had a spirit of adventure.

00:08:10.000 That is, of course, a very sad story, and I think that we should try to keep reverence while discussing it.

00:08:14.000 A lot of people on Twitter have been laughing at the fact that these people died because they're wealthy, and we discussed that a little bit on last night's show, so we probably don't have to retread.

00:08:24.000 That territory, but I want to open it up to you guys.

00:08:27.000 What do you guys think about this?

00:08:28.000 What do you guys think about the fact that the Navy says that they heard or detected that there was a hull implosion several days ago and didn't say anything until now?

00:08:39.000 Hull.

00:08:40.000 Hull implosion.

00:08:41.000 Yes.

00:08:41.000 Because when I first heard you, I thought you said hull implosion.

00:08:43.000 No, no, no.

00:08:45.000 I'm not sure what that would even mean.

00:08:46.000 No, because that hole is... A complete blizzard.

00:08:49.000 Yeah, yeah, a complete blizzard.

00:08:50.000 The hole cracked, and they found debris, I think, about a third of a mile from the wreckage of the Titanic, so... The Wall Street Journal is reporting that this U.S.

00:09:00.000 Navy technology that's used to find enemy submarines Picked up on what they now believe was this implosion around the area where debris was now found.

00:09:09.000 And doesn't that answer the big question to at least one possible non-conspiratorial answer to the big question everyone's asking?

00:09:17.000 Now believe.

00:09:18.000 Now we found the debris.

00:09:19.000 Now we know what that weird noise was.

00:09:23.000 Yeah, well this is something we were talking about a little bit before the show, but there's something curious about the fact that they waited to release this information until after it was already made public that the debris had been found, and so people have been speculating about why that's the case.

00:09:39.000 I can understand why they might not say anything, because it's possible they didn't know initially what the noise actually was, and now that the debris has been found, they can confirm that it actually was the submersible imploding.

00:09:51.000 And they would probably have some concern about dissuading rescuers from making attempts by telling them, we heard something that very well could have been this craft being destroyed by the water pressure.

00:10:02.000 Sorry, or releasing information through the media when really these people have families who probably want some dignity and some privacy while they learn possibly that they've lost, you know, family members.

00:10:13.000 So the Navy is claiming that they, I think it was the Navy, is that who it is, detected, they detected the implosion on Sunday or shortly after they lost contact, I think, maybe on Sunday.

00:10:20.000 And then they let a global initiative to search and rescue go on without telling people, hey, wait a minute.

00:10:27.000 Maybe because they found- so I'm having a problem with this.

00:10:30.000 It's a very emotional story.

00:10:31.000 There's five people dead, which is- and their families, thank God.

00:10:34.000 But I haven't seen the debris.

00:10:37.000 I don't trust the news.

00:10:38.000 If they're going to tell me that this thing, they know now it imploded, they're very almost sure that it imploded, and then they found the wreckage.

00:10:45.000 Like, show me the evidence, man.

00:10:47.000 I don't buy it.

00:10:47.000 I don't buy this.

00:10:48.000 I don't know what's going on.

00:10:49.000 I don't know why this was mainstream news.

00:10:50.000 It's like you don't believe the government or something.

00:10:52.000 I don't understand.

00:10:53.000 What is this plan?

00:10:54.000 What is this that I've been invited to?

00:10:55.000 Crazy corruption scandals about the president's son, but all of a sudden this new piece of pop news takes over and they're trying to shove it down my throat for five days.

00:11:05.000 So, I'm curious, what do you think happened here, then, if you don't believe that this craft was actually destroyed by the water pressure or faulty construction?

00:11:13.000 For all I know, it's still out, it's still down there, and they all died a really horrible, slow death, and they don't want to put that in the news.

00:11:19.000 What do you think their motivation would be for wanting to keep that out of the news?

00:11:21.000 They want to make, they want to raise morale.

00:11:23.000 They want to be like, they all died painfully, because that's what Mike Cernovich tweeted out, they all had a painless death, don't worry about it, everything's... I remember they said that about, about the space shuttle.

00:11:32.000 The Challenger?

00:11:33.000 That was a lie.

00:11:35.000 That's interesting, that they would lie about something like that.

00:11:38.000 What happened with the Challenger?

00:11:40.000 They had a voice recording of the last minute, because it started getting hot in there.

00:11:48.000 It didn't just break up, it started getting hot in there.

00:11:51.000 I'd rather not talk about it.

00:11:52.000 We've had enough awful, you don't have to dredge up awful news from 35 years ago.

00:11:56.000 It was, whatever the hell it was.

00:11:58.000 Sure.

00:11:58.000 1984.

00:11:59.000 I think it was, no, no, no, it was 1986.

00:12:00.000 I was in second grade.

00:12:00.000 I think it was 86.

00:12:04.000 Hannah-Claire, you made this point earlier about dignity, the fact that people had died, that they lost their loved ones, and there's a media fiasco around this.

00:12:12.000 It's an interesting exploration, because we want to look at these issues, we want to know what's happening in the world, and it's good that people were rooting for these individuals to live.

00:12:22.000 The public, at least the Pro-social segment of the public who aren't just completely out of their minds and would celebrate the death of somebody simply because they're wealthy.

00:12:33.000 We're rooting for this family.

00:12:34.000 But I think you're onto something with what you're saying about the fact that there's a level of sensitivity that needs to be considered here, and it goes beyond simply saying, I acknowledge something horrible happened here.

00:12:45.000 There's an element of discretion that is necessary.

00:12:49.000 Yeah, it reminds me of, and I'm loathe to bring up a completely different political point, but when Biden withdrew troops from Afghanistan, right, we lost 13 Marines.

00:12:57.000 Would you want those Marines' names to be released in the media or would you want their parents to have a chance to hear it first?

00:13:04.000 Right?

00:13:06.000 It's one thing we're all outraged by tragedy or we want to know what the end of this submarine saga is.

00:13:12.000 On the other hand, real people have loss and there has to be a slight time delay to deliver that information.

00:13:18.000 Now, I don't know that that's necessarily the case here, like we're saying.

00:13:22.000 If the Navy picked up on some kind of sound, what is it going to do?

00:13:25.000 Say, we think we heard something, but we're not sure, but maybe?

00:13:28.000 Like, it doesn't necessarily serve.

00:13:30.000 There's no reason to believe they didn't deliver that information to the powers that need to be.

00:13:35.000 The Coast Guard, whoever's searching.

00:13:37.000 Again, I agree with Ian here.

00:13:40.000 You have to remain a little bit skeptical.

00:13:42.000 I think what we're seeing a little bit now is the question of why did we finally get this information today that there is debris, that there was an implosion, and what else is going on in the news media that would indicate this.

00:13:54.000 This morning, the news alerts I was getting were saying, you know, today is the last day that they would have oxygen.

00:13:59.000 So there is a reason why this sort of hit its crescendo today.

00:14:03.000 We knew after today, if they weren't found, things were bleak no matter what.

00:14:07.000 Well, I'll also say this.

00:14:08.000 We know, and based on what you were pointing out earlier about the Challenger mission and the catastrophe there, that the media has covered up for organizations to make the fact that people died horrible deaths seem less tragic by claiming it happened quickly and painlessly.

00:14:23.000 However, I will say one key difference is The media might have some desire or motivation to cover for NASA, whereas I'm not sure what the motive would be to cover up for this small organization that doesn't really seem to have any connections to state or media powers.

00:14:39.000 Especially when usually they're, uh, I feel like the federal government is very against independent exploration, right?

00:14:45.000 I mean, this was all, uh, Elon Musk and, uh, and, uh, Richard Branson's efforts to get to space.

00:14:51.000 I don't think, uh, the federal government necessarily was, was rooting them on.

00:14:55.000 No.

00:14:56.000 Right, and their exclusive territory.

00:15:00.000 Yes.

00:15:01.000 Again, private exploration of the sea, I think we stopped thinking about it because we became focused on space, but I'm sure there are reasons that people want to plunge to the ocean and see what's there.

00:15:12.000 It really is a world unknown to us.

00:15:14.000 Yep.

00:15:15.000 And I don't think necessarily these people who have the money to do so were wrong for

00:15:20.000 taking that risk.

00:15:20.000 It's just an incredibly sad situation.

00:15:23.000 We, I think, I think it's hard to see these videos on TikTok or Reels or wherever

00:15:27.000 where people are kind of laughing at it because you want to remind yourself that like

00:15:30.000 these are people who died and someone is grieving them.

00:15:33.000 And I'll mention this.

00:15:34.000 I think you're correct in saying that when it comes to exploration of parts of the world that are currently uncharted, there is a nobility in wanting to take that venture on.

00:15:43.000 However, in the coming days or weeks, there are going to have to be some questions asked about the particular risks that Ocean Gate took in their construction of this vehicle and placing people on it and whether this was the best constructed craft, because there's been a lot of discussion about that, but maybe now is not the time.

00:16:01.000 I heard there was a waiver, they signed, someone on Twitter, and this is all anecdotal, I don't have the tweet, but they said that they had ridden with Ocean Gate a year ago, and to the Titanic actually, and back, and they'd signed a waiver, and on the front page it was like, you waive just in case you die, and they said it said death three times on the front page, could be hyperbolic, but they were pretty much like, I think maybe these people- So I actually heard, so my friend Legal Mindset, Andrew Esquire, A YouTuber did a very good video that I think he posted, yep, 12 hours ago today, addressing potential legal issues that are raised by this tragedy.

00:16:39.000 And going to your point again, because of, I think, what is generally a government hostility towards any kind of independence, and certainly big independence like this, he seemed to suggest that this is going to provide an impetus for uh more regulation but i i'm surprised that he said that because the first thing he said in his video and he's and i think the video is great is that where there's a jurisdictional issue here this is international waters and part of the reason there is what there is so little regulation is precisely because of the lack of a regulating or an enforcing authority so the fact that

00:17:21.000 See, everyone knows that in the world of sailing, the nautical world, if you have any familiarity at all with cruise lines, they're notoriously unregulated.

00:17:34.000 They are scandalously unregulated.

00:17:36.000 Everyone knows there's a problem.

00:17:37.000 Everyone knows a certain number of passengers disappear, are killed, are robbed, are thrown overboard, and there is no accountability.

00:17:48.000 The fact that we know that these things happen doesn't make them solved.

00:17:51.000 They're not solved.

00:17:52.000 So I don't know if this, but there is some very, one of the things that Andrew did point out was that you can sign a waiver, you can waive all kinds of things, but you can't, there's a level of negligence, of gross negligence, that you cannot waive away.

00:18:12.000 By virtue of signing a waiver that doesn't give you permission, okay, now I can come into your treehouse.

00:18:17.000 Great!

00:18:18.000 Welcome aboard, Ron. 1.00

00:18:19.000 I'm gonna shoot you in the head. 1.00

00:18:20.000 You can't do that. 1.00

00:18:21.000 Yeah.

00:18:22.000 So there will be lawyers looking very hard at this.

00:18:27.000 Well, speaking of lawyers, the Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison actually warned Target about their obligations to LGBTQ individuals, and of course we know that means the LGBTQ lobby.

00:18:42.000 That's what they're referring to whenever they talk about this community.

00:18:45.000 So this was not just the Minnesota AG, there was a coalition of fifteen AGs and they reached out to the CEO of Target to

00:18:52.000 offer support after the Pride backlash in an open letter where they said, and I

00:18:58.000 quote, and you know please stay sitting,

00:19:00.000 we understand Target recently pulled some Pride merchandise from its shelves

00:19:06.000 excuse me, from its shelves out of concern for worker and customer safety

00:19:11.000 the letter says. While we understand that... Very dangerous merchandise.

00:19:16.000 Extremely dangerous merchandise.

00:19:18.000 It's gonna jump out the shells and attack you.

00:19:21.000 Exactly.

00:19:21.000 And it could implode into a hole.

00:19:23.000 Oh, okay.

00:19:23.000 I forgot.

00:19:24.000 So, they released this letter where, of course, what they're saying to Target is, we understand, you know, why you were afraid.

00:19:31.000 Of course, the right wing in this country is just absolutely out of control.

00:19:34.000 You remember those riots that lasted for months at a time that, you know, that far-right group must have perpetuated.

00:19:41.000 We can't get to the bottom of it.

00:19:42.000 But the Minnesota AG Keith Ellison wrote to Target warning that their decision to pull Pride merch, and this is from Fox by the way, this is their wording, from stores encouraged bullying and will embolden hateful methods.

00:19:55.000 So, hateful methods and bullying.

00:19:59.000 I would say if there was an example of bullying in this story, it would probably be from the LGBTQ activist who sent bomb threats to Target, but I'm curious to hear all of your thoughts on this.

00:20:13.000 Well, we never want to empower bullying in this country.

00:20:17.000 Definitely the progressive left has never, ever tried to push its agenda in a manner that would constitute bullying.

00:20:23.000 They would never do that. 0.95

00:20:24.000 I mean, I think this is ridiculous.

00:20:27.000 It is interesting that, you know, it is a coalition of, what, 15 attorney generals and the Minnesota attorney general is there.

00:20:33.000 You probably already mentioned this, but Target is based in Minnesota, so there's a certain amount of pressure to get in line, fall in line with your hometown.

00:20:42.000 It reminds me of the Bud Light boycott in some ways, because initially it was the conservatives saying, we won't drink this, Anheuser-Busch, you've gone too far, you're pushing inappropriate things to underage children.

00:20:52.000 And then on top of that, gay bars started boycotting Bud Light, saying, how could you not vocally support Dylan Mulvaney and everything else that this community represents?

00:21:03.000 And so we're seeing the same thing here.

00:21:04.000 You know, Minnesota is now saying, Why are you not doing more, even though we will not acknowledge that you've lost billions of dollars?

00:21:13.000 Exactly.

00:21:14.000 And so, I mean, there's just so much to pull apart here.

00:21:17.000 Firstly, Target obviously has a fiduciary responsibility to their stockholders to ensure that they're not tanking the price of their company and the valuation of it, so that the people who have invested their money in them aren't, you know, completely S.O.L.

00:21:30.000 on that.

00:21:30.000 That's not something Mr. Ellison It is particularly concerned with, as it turns out.

00:21:36.000 No, the obligation is to the LGBTQ community here.

00:21:40.000 And what they were saying, of course, in the letter was that they understand that there was a legitimate threat to the safety of consumers at Target.

00:21:47.000 No, it was the consumers who said they were no longer interested in what Target was pushing

00:21:51.000 here.

00:21:52.000 That's the problem.

00:21:53.000 What they're upset about is the fact that people were willing to stand up to this massive

00:21:55.000 corporation and say, actually, we're not interested in having you force this nonsense onto us

00:22:00.000 and our families.

00:22:01.000 And of course, they call that a threat to their safety.

00:22:03.000 And then they try to turn around and say, this is a threat to the safety of our customers.

00:22:07.000 This is a very textbook left-wing tactic to just project.

00:22:12.000 What they are trying to do is have a predatory relationship with their customers where they

00:22:15.000 force any idea or perverse set of lifestyle choices onto those customers and they do nothing

00:22:20.000 So they're the ones who are actually a threat to the safety of their customers.

00:22:23.000 They're the ones trying to victimize them in a very real sense.

00:22:26.000 When those customers turn around and leave, they say, well the customers are actually being victimized by virtue of the fact that they're no longer shopping in our locations because the only explanation for this is big bad right-wing terrorists or whatever other boogeyman they want to invent to avoid accountability here.

00:22:42.000 Yeah, I wonder too, it's just so arrogant of these attorney generals to not acknowledge that by telling Target, you have to keep this merchandise on your shelves for everyone to then take pictures of and share how it's not selling.

00:22:56.000 I mean, I think one of the best things Alex Stein has ever done is go to Target and try on their Tuck-friendly swimsuit, right?

00:23:02.000 I think Alex also feels That that's one of the best things he's ever done, too.

00:23:07.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:23:08.000 It's still burned in my mind, actually.

00:23:09.000 Yeah, you'll never forget it.

00:23:11.000 His feet has really, really changed since that experience.

00:23:16.000 But I just mean, you know, when we, again, I'll draw back to Bud Light.

00:23:20.000 What did we see for the weeks afterwards?

00:23:22.000 Pictures of these stacks of Bud Lights not moving off shelves.

00:23:25.000 And we saw more cases of Bud Light with these crazy coupons saying basically, please, we'll pay you to take this.

00:23:32.000 I can see on a number of levels why as soon as this happened, Target felt like it needed to pull the merchandise.

00:23:39.000 Was there really no aspect of bullying?

00:23:42.000 Is this a complete fantasy?

00:23:44.000 Is it the way you describe it?

00:23:46.000 It's a total fantasy. 0.76

00:23:47.000 No, it's nonsense.

00:23:48.000 Their idea of bullying is you didn't comply with what I told you to do.

00:23:51.000 You didn't obey me.

00:23:52.000 That's what bullying means to a leftist.

00:23:56.000 The school board, the bullying by parents and school boards.

00:23:59.000 Exactly, the parents bullying the teachers.

00:24:01.000 So, playing devil's advocate, which I'm often paid to do.

00:24:05.000 You're a lawyer, yeah, I get it.

00:24:08.000 If parents become unruly or they refuse to respect, you know, everyone gets two minutes to speak and you went over or you're Matt Walsh and you're too effective and compelling, you know, but there there's a sort of an immediacy and there's a sort of a menace.

00:24:25.000 I'm in the most, I mean, this is pure democracy in action, but is there anything even comparable to that?

00:24:33.000 Were there any pickets anywhere?

00:24:36.000 Oh, in front of Target stores?

00:24:37.000 I bet there were!

00:24:37.000 Yeah, I think people, it's possible, but my understanding is what they're really concerned about is just the fact that people have stopped shopping there and their stock prices plummeted.

00:24:45.000 I don't know if they would be as concerned about protests.

00:24:47.000 And I think a lot of this is, I think a lot of what's happened with Target and a lot of what has happened with Bud Light is that there have been, you know, Right-wing organizations getting protesters together.

00:24:57.000 It's just that ordinary people have said we don't want this anymore, and we're not gonna purchase your product Well, not just that we're not gonna go to your stores when if you go whenever you go to a target What do you see people?

00:25:08.000 They're dragging their kids along because these are people who most of them are caregivers and also people don't work anymore So everyone's there with their kids And all of a sudden kids are looking at these displays and these bizarrely configured, you know, articles of clothing and asking very awkward questions.

00:25:28.000 And what they want to have happen is for the normal to become, you should, your children should be exposed to this, your children should ask these questions.

00:25:40.000 And guess what?

00:25:41.000 We'll even tell you how you should answer them.

00:25:44.000 Exactly.

00:25:44.000 That's exactly right.

00:25:45.000 Unfortunately, consumers still have the power to boycott these organizations, and they would love to see that stop.

00:25:52.000 Unfortunately, there are organizations that we don't have the power to boycott, segueing into our next story about the United States government and the Pentagon.

00:26:02.000 You may have heard over the past several days, while we've been taking a break from Tim Kast, that the Pentagon had a little bit of an accounting error which resulted in an extra $6.2 billion for Ukrainian military aid.

00:26:15.000 You know, I really wish that every now and again one of these accounting errors could result in the American people getting tax cuts or money being returned back to us, but it's kind of fascinating how these mistakes seem to happen in one direction.

00:26:29.000 Well, the Pentagon said Tuesday that they overestimated the value of weapons sent to Ukraine by $6.2 billion over the past two years.

00:26:37.000 And, I don't know, I'm sitting here thinking, we can't afford not to spend an extra $6.2 billion on aid to Ukraine, and apparently they can't afford not to have it because we're still sending it over there, they still get to keep it, and there's absolutely no accountability.

00:26:51.000 I mean, I can't imagine a strategy more foolish for determining how your national defense, or even just expenditure, Well that's the theme of our era, is no accountability.

00:27:09.000 And certainly no one in the federal government has ever held accountable for things that they're quite rationally expected to be accountable for.

00:27:19.000 I was saying before the show, as we were talking about this, that I'm surprised the Pentagon even bothered coming up with this story.

00:27:27.000 Since when do they even care?

00:27:29.000 Since when do they need an excuse?

00:27:31.000 Usually they just say, we just decided to send some more.

00:27:34.000 They've failed their last five consecutive audits.

00:27:38.000 I mean, the Pentagon... And yet they're still in business!

00:27:41.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:41.000 Can you imagine?

00:27:42.000 Let me ask you this.

00:27:43.000 As a legal expert, are you aware of any large corporations that have failed five consecutive audits and just been fine business as usual?

00:27:52.000 Well, failing an audit is a funny concept.

00:27:57.000 There's that lawyer talk.

00:27:59.000 When questions are raised by audits, boards of directors have responsibilities to follow up on those, and they have a fiduciary obligation to shareholders to make sure that problems are addressed.

00:28:12.000 So you're asking the right question.

00:28:14.000 The problem with government is that it is not only a word for people doing stuff together.

00:28:20.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:28:22.000 That's what government means.

00:28:22.000 It's just when we get together.

00:28:24.000 And it's not even just a word for... Remember when we all got together and accidentally gave Ukraine an extra 6.2 billion when we all just got together and did that? 0.78

00:28:32.000 That's what government is.

00:28:33.000 What I'm kind of wondering here is one of the things I've kind of heard recently was that they A lot of the stuff that was sent to Ukraine, it was actually, the military was kind of happy to get rid of it.

00:28:46.000 A lot of it was outdated stuff and, you know, it gives them an excuse to replace those things with new and better stuff.

00:28:55.000 And maybe it's like a clearance sale but for military exactly right gotta get rid of it Yeah, gotta get rid of it by shooting it at or we're having we're not shooting it.

00:29:04.000 Of course.

00:29:05.000 We're not shooting it Mm-hmm.

00:29:07.000 These people are shooting it.

00:29:08.000 It just salvaged their independence and their pride.

00:29:10.000 This did not mean pride this story Different pride, but you did say This story reminds me, I don't know if it's a meme or whatever, I saw on Twitter of like, it comes up every tax season where it's like, the government.

00:29:22.000 You owe me money.

00:29:23.000 Me.

00:29:23.000 Okay, how much?

00:29:24.000 We can't tell you.

00:29:25.000 That's right.

00:29:26.000 Is it this much?

00:29:27.000 No.

00:29:27.000 To jail.

00:29:28.000 Exactly.

00:29:29.000 This doesn't make any sense to me because the government gets to be like, we misplaced six billion dollars.

00:29:34.000 Let's stick a pin in that conversation because I think we will be coming back to it tonight again also.

00:29:40.000 I wonder if it's an inflationary thing, like they gave technology over, which two years ago when they signed the paperwork, it's yours, was worth $6.2 billion less, and today they're like, oh, well the value's now.

00:29:52.000 Or if they're just priming people.

00:29:54.000 Can you imagine a business, imagine Amazon calls you up and says, remember when you bought $40 worth of underwear?

00:30:01.000 Yeah, right?

00:30:02.000 It was $60.

00:30:03.000 More money.

00:30:04.000 Crazy, crazy mistake.

00:30:05.000 Or just claiming that it was worth $60 after they sold it to me for $40.

00:30:08.000 Well, or if what they're doing is priming us for another announcement that they gave a $40 billion of an accounting error.

00:30:16.000 See, for me, it's like, why?

00:30:19.000 It's the federal government, right?

00:30:20.000 If they had just been like, and then we decided to give them $6.2 billion, they would have done that.

00:30:25.000 To me, this means they knew that they were going to get caught for some reason.

00:30:28.000 Like, they only admitted it and got out in front of the story.

00:30:31.000 The government does not do things afterwards.

00:30:34.000 What would have happened?

00:30:35.000 Exactly.

00:30:36.000 Oh no, we failed.

00:30:38.000 You caught me!

00:30:39.000 Let me see your wallet, sir.

00:30:40.000 Like, every single time.

00:30:42.000 Like I said, they never pay any price.

00:30:43.000 I feel like it's depending on being, like, single.

00:30:45.000 What are you gonna do about it?

00:30:46.000 That's exactly what I was about to say.

00:30:49.000 Sometimes I wonder if there's a little bit of Rubbing people's faces in these kinds of situations? 1.00

00:31:00.000 I almost wonder, and I know it's a bit conspiratorial, but if they come out and they admit these things because they just want to confirm that you're not going to do anything about it, there's not really going to be any backlash.

00:31:10.000 Well, that's the FBI.

00:31:12.000 That's the FBI.

00:31:14.000 Yeah, we, you know, that whole secret court thing where you're supposed to trust us.

00:31:23.000 That issues warrants.

00:31:27.000 We absolutely blew that.

00:31:28.000 I don't know, we were drinking, I don't know what it was.

00:31:34.000 Someone made a dare.

00:31:36.000 But we took a lot of stuff, a lot of confidential stuff that we shouldn't have taken.

00:31:42.000 Whatever, right?

00:31:43.000 And I mean, the FBI has admitted to far more horrific stuff than that, too.

00:31:48.000 I mean, the FBI and CIA, when you just look at the things that they've leaked, you go, I'm glad that they were transparent about this, but not to get too sidetracked, hearing about things like, you know, MKUltra or Project Northwoods, any of these things that were going on behind the scenes that if the American people had known about them at the time, they might have actually attempted some kind of coup.

00:32:10.000 And then you go, well, they're telling us now and they're also telling us that they would never do anything so horrible again.

00:32:15.000 So I guess everyone's just kind of kind of roll over and obey the regime.

00:32:19.000 I've been thinking about secret police lately, like it's secret police.

00:32:22.000 I've been thinking about it.

00:32:23.000 Well, they are.

00:32:23.000 The FBI, the CIA, their secret police.

00:32:26.000 We've had them for a hundred years.

00:32:27.000 Secret police are okay if they're not attacking themselves, like if they're not attacking their own government.

00:32:32.000 But when it starts to invade and attack, it's like an immune response.

00:32:35.000 It's like, what do you call, what's like HIV?

00:32:38.000 It attacks the immune system, immunodeficiency.

00:32:41.000 So this is like an immunodeficiency when the secret police turn on itself.

00:32:44.000 So like the fact that it's going after a Republican candidate for president, for instance.

00:32:49.000 Or whatever, tapping people's phones in the United States.

00:32:53.000 And the Nazis had a secret police that went after itself. 0.71

00:32:56.000 They started going after their own people.

00:32:57.000 I'm okay with allowing a CIA to exist, spiritually even, having a secret police force.

00:33:04.000 I understand there is massive value to that.

00:33:08.000 But to protect our species and our environment.

00:33:11.000 But man, when it goes on itself, I don't know how to make it not go on itself either.

00:33:16.000 If it starts, how do you turn it around without having it gutted, you know?

00:33:21.000 When you mean go in on itself, what exactly are you saying there?

00:33:24.000 Like if it starts to arrest other people within the political system of the country that it's supposed to operate.

00:33:29.000 Well, this actually was most prevalent in the NKVD.

00:33:34.000 In the 1930s.

00:33:35.000 And the astonishing thing that Stalin, among many of the many astonishing things that Stalin achieved was he gutted the leadership of the NKVD.

00:33:47.000 What's the NKVD?

00:33:47.000 That was the predecessor of the KGB.

00:33:50.000 Same exact thing.

00:33:51.000 I mean, he would sometimes split them into different ministries, internal, external.

00:33:55.000 But the bottom line is, you know, Soviet secret police were turned inside out and it had been understood pretty much you know since Lenin and through the early purges of Stalin that to be what they call the Czechist was to be a uniquely privileged person.

00:34:17.000 You were the elite and yes from time to time the number one guy would get his head chopped off but yeah being a dutiful Czechist was still a very secure and then all of a sudden And it was an extraordinary implementation of power on Stalin's part to be able to do that and not result in a kind of rebellion there because there were so many different internal monitoring systems of the internal monitoring systems that you never knew 0.95

00:34:55.000 Which circuit you were pulling on, you know, which wire you were pulling on.

00:35:00.000 So it can be done.

00:35:01.000 And you know, the more power and in fact, the more powerful and invasive your security state is, the more likely that is to happen.

00:35:10.000 That is, that a strongman can start picking it apart without it realizing that it's being destroyed or even capable at stopping itself from being... Although I'm not sure that the CIA as such, or the NSA, or the FBI have really suffered any No.

00:35:29.000 Exactly.

00:35:30.000 And that gets back to the problem of what we're discussing.

00:35:35.000 And of course, Tim's voice.

00:35:37.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:38.000 We know exactly what happened.

00:35:40.000 But, you know, Ian, you were talking about these agencies turning on themselves, you were talking about some examples of that, and it goes back to what we were saying earlier about these organizations not really being held accountable.

00:35:51.000 So, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, I mean, in theory, you could argue that, like, at the very least, the FBI may be a federal police force.

00:36:00.000 Again, I don't love the idea, I'm not saying I'm in favor of it, but if you just wanted to make an argument for a kind of federal police force existing, what you would need to do is create a very strong incentive structure for it to not go off and do things that are against the interests of the American people.

00:36:16.000 And the church committee, which none of you will remember, but you've heard of, Which investigated the MKUltra stuff and the domestic spying was supposed to resolve that.

00:36:26.000 And what they didn't count on was that Congress would completely drop the bow on its oversight.

00:36:34.000 And also, You know, the post 9-11 security, you know, and secrecy reforms, so to speak, the legislative permit that was given to the security state to essentially operate with a degree of comprehension that would have been inconceivable in the 70s when the church hearings took place and which are incredibly invasive and there's no accountability.

00:37:03.000 Do you think that we need these agencies in today's America?

00:37:06.000 Like, should we terminate the FBI?

00:37:10.000 To your point, I can't imagine competing in the global world, the global world as opposed to the flat one, which everyone... Yeah, I was going to say, we don't talk about that until the after show.

00:37:23.000 The spherical world!

00:37:25.000 You saw what happened!

00:37:26.000 Alright, don't make it happen again.

00:37:31.000 I don't see how you could not have it.

00:37:32.000 But on the other hand, I don't see how you, you must, they must be accountable.

00:37:39.000 Time to say the cliche, who watches the Watchers?

00:37:41.000 Well, exactly.

00:37:42.000 Well, and this is the thing, right?

00:37:43.000 They are watching everybody else.

00:37:44.000 So you look at the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and all the mass data collection that's gone on the fact that they have information on literally anyone who could ever potentially stand up to try to regulate them.

00:37:53.000 It seems to me you're either going to need a squeaky clean person in politics, Or someone in politics who doesn't care if they get exposed and have their life ruined, or somebody who's both of those things, or they're just going to keep doing whatever they want to do forever.

00:38:06.000 Because even if you do find that person or enough people who fit that description, it's still a long shot.

00:38:11.000 I don't want to be too black-pilled about this, but these agencies are incredibly powerful.

00:38:15.000 There is a reason they were able to have the information come out to the American people that they were, literally with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, plotting against the United States by planning a false flag attack, Or, you know, with MKUltra doing secret experiments on American citizens and still continue to exist, right?

00:38:34.000 It's because they're pretty much impossible to get rid of at this point.

00:38:37.000 And, you know, the question of, let's say you were made king for a day, right?

00:38:43.000 So you had the power to disband the FBI.

00:38:46.000 That might not be such a great idea because now you have a lot of people with a lot of sensitive information and a lot of powerful tools who are unemployed and are looking to sell what they know.

00:38:58.000 They're looking to become freelancers and we're not going to put bullets in the back of all their heads.

00:39:04.000 The vast majority of them are respectable people and they have their own, they have families, they feel like they're doing their duty.

00:39:11.000 I think we have all been disabused of the notion that they are you know, won't do whatever they have to do to maintain

00:39:18.000 their jobs. And as I said last night, you know, their pensions and fine, but be that as it may,

00:39:25.000 you can't just wish you just can't wish that away. And it is extremely it's a ratcheting

00:39:29.000 effect, very hard to imagine how you loosen, how you loosen that. And by the way, we do

00:39:35.000 have serious rivals on the world stage, as well as serious

00:39:42.000 problems with crime and with a, you know, and with cyber security, both internally and

00:39:49.000 externally, and corporate espionage, you do need sophisticated help.

00:39:56.000 Government is very well positioned to do that, and I've never been the biggest libertarian in the world.

00:40:03.000 I bet if Tim were here, he could make an argument along the lines of privatizing those kinds of services.

00:40:12.000 If you're a corporation and you have information that needs to be protected, or if you're a person that needs to be protected, move out to Maryland along the border of West Virginia.

00:40:21.000 And, you know, everyone can do that, but be that as it may, I think there's a very strong consensus.

00:40:27.000 And by the way, this is another point, the vast majority of Americans don't know that there's a problem.

00:40:31.000 Yeah.

00:40:32.000 Well, speaking of it, you were kind of mentioning these sophisticated tools of analysis.

00:40:36.000 Well, there are some stories that we can get to the bottom of without very sophisticated tools, or even minds which are very analytical.

00:40:43.000 I think we're watching a very, very special segway happen here.

00:40:46.000 Oh, we're watching a very special segment.

00:40:48.000 Just you wait, guys.

00:40:49.000 I almost stuck the landing and then you had to make fun of me.

00:40:51.000 At the end of the show, please rate his best segues and his worst segues.

00:40:56.000 We're going to make a time stamp.

00:40:58.000 Exactly.

00:40:58.000 After the show, we're going to do a compilation of my best and worst segues.

00:41:03.000 I'll just drop the name of the story.

00:41:05.000 I'll just drop the title of the article here in the story we're going to talk about.

00:41:08.000 U.S.-funded scientists were among three Chinese researchers who fell ill amid the early COVID-19 outbreak.

00:41:17.000 Identification of three who worked at Wuhan Institute of Virology fuels suspicion for proponents of lab leak theory.

00:41:25.000 That's quite an understatement.

00:41:28.000 A prominent scientist who worked on coronavirus projects, funded by the U.S.

00:41:33.000 government, do I have to keep reading?

00:41:36.000 Is one of three Chinese researchers who became sick with an unspecified illness during the initial outbreak of COVID-19, according to current and former U.S.

00:41:47.000 officials.

00:41:48.000 So maybe it's whatever Tim has.

00:41:50.000 Maybe someone else had to take over his podcast for a day.

00:41:52.000 I have no idea.

00:41:54.000 But what I will say is this. 0.94

00:41:55.000 We have had a number of conversations on this story about lab leak hypothesis versus the it-came-from-a-bat-that-lived-a-thousand-miles-away-from-where-the-virus-first-sprang-up theory, which I guess a nickname we could give to that shorthand is stupid. 0.92

00:42:12.000 The insane stretch? 0.90

00:42:14.000 I don't know what else to call it.

00:42:16.000 We have had conversations on this show about the fact that there are certain theories That we as the American people didn't have access to because information was withheld from us.

00:42:26.000 This is an example of the American people having basically all of the facts that they needed to have to come to the correct conclusion very early on, but the media just continually gaslighting people about drawing the most obvious possible conclusion.

00:42:41.000 The reason the term conspiracy theorist is so effective is because what it does is it generates an image in the mind of the person who hears that term of an individual who doesn't go for the most succinct,

00:42:53.000 credible, reasonable, and simple explanation, but who instead will make any kind of logical leap

00:43:00.000 or stretch to believe whatever it was they wanted to believe in the first place.

00:43:04.000 Now, to me, that sounds a lot more like that description fits somebody who thinks

00:43:10.000 that COVID sprang up in a population of bats that live a thousand miles away from Wuhan,

00:43:15.000 as opposed to having come from the virus factory where they were doing gain-of-function research

00:43:21.000 in the city where the virus first sprang up for our good.

00:43:26.000 For our good!

00:43:26.000 How can you question science?

00:43:29.000 I know, I know.

00:43:30.000 And with details now emerging, I mean, I just have to laugh.

00:43:34.000 I'm glad that this story came out.

00:43:35.000 I'm glad that this was published.

00:43:36.000 I think this is valuable information for the American people to have.

00:43:39.000 Did we need this?

00:43:40.000 Did we need this information to come to the most obvious possible conclusion here?

00:43:45.000 Well, I think it is important that we start to find out who's funded by the U.S.

00:43:50.000 government, including if Chinese researchers were being funded and getting sick.

00:43:54.000 Were they working in the COVID factory, the Wuhan Institute?

00:43:59.000 Yeah, they were working at the Wuhan factory where they were working on COVID, and they got ill being funded by the U.S.

00:44:07.000 government.

00:44:07.000 It's the most obvious.

00:44:08.000 It's insane, right?

00:44:09.000 I think it's notable that it's coming from the Wall Street Journal, right?

00:44:12.000 This isn't a fringe group that's reporting this.

00:44:14.000 It's exactly, exactly what I was thinking.

00:44:17.000 Is that, okay, is this going to be another Fox head?

00:44:20.000 No, it's not Fox.

00:44:21.000 It's not Newsmax.

00:44:22.000 It's no one who- So frankly, I don't believe it.

00:44:24.000 It's Wall Street Journal.

00:44:25.000 But it's not the Wall Street Journal editorial page either.

00:44:29.000 It's the- They are presenting it as fact.

00:44:31.000 They feel as though they have the evidence to back this up.

00:44:35.000 I can't speak specifically to the Wall Street Journal, but most of these major mainstream outlets, we can kind of guess with their track record on this theory, where they cited.

00:44:45.000 The fact that this is being reported, I mean, we are three years out.

00:44:49.000 A lot of people's attitudes towards the pandemic have really shifted, but it's notable that I now am very pro.

00:44:58.000 You're for it.

00:44:59.000 You think it was a good time?

00:45:00.000 It changed your mind?

00:45:01.000 You got to work out a lot.

00:45:04.000 You're a bodybuilder now, right?

00:45:08.000 They might try to convince the American people to be in favor of it just so that they don't have to take accountability.

00:45:12.000 Maybe we needed this time to ourselves.

00:45:14.000 We all get to spend more time at home.

00:45:16.000 Ron became a bodybuilder.

00:45:18.000 No, but I think that's the thing you should take away.

00:45:20.000 Yes, like you're saying maybe we all already knew this information.

00:45:24.000 Maybe this is drawing forth a conclusion that a lot of us had already assumed.

00:45:27.000 But the reason the answer to your question is no is that read that last sentence.

00:45:32.000 The identity and role of the researchers is one piece of intelligence that has been cited by proponents of the judgment that... That's actually not very good writing.

00:45:41.000 Proponents of the judgment that the pandemic originated with a lab leak.

00:45:46.000 And that is not an award-winning sentence, but it's still... They don't actually take the position that this tends to prove, or this proves, that it was always bullshit that it was anything other than a lab leak. 0.80

00:46:00.000 The nature of their illness hasn't been conclusively proven. 0.86

00:46:04.000 Yeah.

00:46:04.000 So, it's just a bunch of facts we're gonna line up, but we can't say what happened.

00:46:08.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:09.000 I mean, again, there's one extremely obvious explanation here.

00:46:11.000 Now, Tim would not appreciate if we got him demonetized.

00:46:13.000 No, no, no.

00:46:14.000 So, this is one of those things you are able to discuss, but we probably shouldn't push out further into other questions of the medical science that YouTube would.

00:46:21.000 And we're not questioning science.

00:46:22.000 We're questioning the Wall Street Journal.

00:46:24.000 When I talk about the medical science too, I think, well, there are certain elements of it that you're not allowed to discuss because that's, you know, how science works, but I know that with this, the establishment is actually starting to admit that this is clearly true.

00:46:39.000 That's what I'm thinking.

00:46:40.000 This is what the vibe I get.

00:46:41.000 It seems like people are like, okay, we've kind of figured out what happened.

00:46:45.000 And now these news organizations, I don't want to speak for all of them, but the ones that relied for so long on printing newspaper are failing.

00:46:52.000 They don't have the income that they used to have in there.

00:46:54.000 They need to get to break the story.

00:46:57.000 So one of them is going to be like, you know what, we're done with pretense.

00:46:59.000 Print it.

00:47:00.000 Print it first.

00:47:01.000 Print it before the New York Times, print it before whoever USA Today, just print it first.

00:47:05.000 We'll be the guy now.

00:47:07.000 I think you're right.

00:47:08.000 In news media, there's a lot of be there first as fast as you can.

00:47:12.000 Also, this is not a Democrat-centric story as such.

00:47:17.000 This is the Uniparty, this is the Deep State, this is the administrators, this is the big government.

00:47:22.000 So there's a little bit more room for that kind of reporting.

00:47:27.000 It's not like reporting on the Bidens.

00:47:29.000 Yeah, and it actually makes the US government look kind of bad, which might be good for other countries.

00:47:33.000 So who's behind this news propaganda?

00:47:36.000 I don't know.

00:47:36.000 That's the research who owns the Wall Street Journal then, right?

00:47:38.000 I wonder how much money BlackRock's put into the Wall Street Journal.

00:47:41.000 Let's find out.

00:47:41.000 That's a good question, yeah.

00:47:42.000 Please look that up for us right now because that's certainly valuable information.

00:47:47.000 I think I've pretty much made my point on this, that the explanation here from the get-go was unbelievably obvious.

00:47:52.000 We've had a number of different people in media and in the channels of the United States government and actual official institutions that people look to as authorities throughout this entire pandemic come out and say that they were not either being honest with us from the beginning, but maybe a better way of putting it is saying they weren't being truthful, because that doesn't necessarily demand that we believe that they are being intentionally dishonest, just that what they were saying clearly wasn't true.

00:48:19.000 So there are certain, see?

00:48:21.000 The lawyer appreciates me saying that.

00:48:23.000 I'll tell you why, because you just hit on something that I actually had wanted to say before, but I'd forgotten, which was misinformation.

00:48:31.000 Information they want you to miss.

00:48:32.000 Oh, I like that.

00:48:33.000 Thank you.

00:48:34.000 Misinformation is a made-up word.

00:48:39.000 There's disinformation.

00:48:41.000 Disinformation is an affirmative attempt to lie to you about reality so that you, for policy reasons, for political reasons, get misinformed.

00:48:51.000 I was misinformed!

00:48:53.000 They told me the show started at 7, it starts at 8.

00:48:56.000 Someone made a mistake or even someone did it on purpose.

00:48:58.000 I was misinformed.

00:48:59.000 There was never such a thing as misinformation.

00:49:01.000 I mean there might have been, the formative might have existed theoretically, but misinformation is something that was created in the social media era as a term to describe What might not be truth, but to make it sound like those who repeat it are engaged in disinformation, because it rhymes with and it alludes to disinformation.

00:49:26.000 But accusing someone of disinformation is almost saying that they're competent state actors or something.

00:49:32.000 You don't want to say that.

00:49:33.000 You want to say rather that they're interesting.

00:49:35.000 So that's what a lot of what we're talking about.

00:49:39.000 That's the theme.

00:49:40.000 And you mentioned this, you sort of mentioned it earlier.

00:49:42.000 The idea is to get across an official narrative and to marginalize anyone who departs from it as being engaged in misinformation.

00:49:54.000 Not in misinforming people, because when you misinform people, it's like, I thought the movie started at 9.

00:49:58.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:49:59.000 People make mistakes.

00:50:00.000 No, it's because you're bad.

00:50:03.000 Yeah, no, I think that's a very good point.

00:50:05.000 It's a very good way of looking at it.

00:50:07.000 Thank you.

00:50:08.000 I think what everyone has to remember here is the media, you know, social media platforms and basically everyone in government, including people in government who are actually colluding with social media companies to have them censor people from those platforms, were claiming that their interest was in protecting the American people.

00:50:25.000 Now, if it's true that you are genuinely just a seeker of truth who wants to use the best information available to protect people, Then when your track record ends up revealing that you have been consistently incorrect about important details, which you punish people for speaking truth on, you'd imagine some kind of humility would be demonstrated, and you would loosen your grip over the control of informational flow, or you would loosen your restrictions.

00:50:50.000 And on some things they have, however, they still act with a degree of authority and certainty which is not only unearned, but which has been thoroughly Dismissed and refuted by the facts.

00:51:05.000 I would say has been entirely undermined by their own track record It's either that is that they were Incompetent or malicious and either way I'm concerned with that's why I just don't buy anything at face value anymore It's really eroding my will to live.

00:51:21.000 I will admit.

00:51:21.000 Oh dude like on a daily Yeah, it's just happening slowly, piece by piece is coming out of me, stone by stone.

00:51:29.000 It's getting dark, like the future.

00:51:30.000 I don't see a good future in 10 years with this AI revolution and the amount of stranglehold that the US government seems to be trying to keep on people.

00:51:39.000 Just admit it sometimes.

00:51:41.000 Let it out.

00:51:42.000 Let people live and thrive.

00:51:44.000 Otherwise, I can't imagine anything good happening in the next five years, geopolitically.

00:51:48.000 I mean, not nothing, but I'm saying...

00:51:52.000 I don't... I mean, if they're willing to shut off people's bank accounts that are trying to live off the grid, like, what the hell are we doing to ourselves?

00:52:00.000 I'm very concerned, man.

00:52:01.000 And by the way, Vanguard Group owns 18% of News Corp, which owns the company that we were just talking about.

00:52:07.000 The Wall Street Journal, yeah, Vanguard.

00:52:09.000 Yeah, man.

00:52:10.000 I hear a lot of what you're saying, and I think there are a lot of people in the audience who probably feel similarly about seeing a very bleak future ahead of them, but I mean, don't lose your will to live over it.

00:52:21.000 You matter.

00:52:22.000 I mean, you matter as a person.

00:52:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:27.000 That might be part of it, it's too much coffee.

00:52:29.000 Maybe you just got so blackpilled by that information.

00:52:32.000 And I will say, if you work in news media and you just consume these stories back to back to back to back to back, it is easy for it to become like you do.

00:52:40.000 You have to research the show.

00:52:41.000 It gets really dark.

00:52:42.000 On the other hand, you have to remember all the things that happen in your daily life that are worth continuing to push against the system for.

00:52:48.000 Yeah.

00:52:49.000 Yeah, man.

00:52:50.000 It's just like a psychology hour.

00:52:53.000 If I have kids, what, are they going to be 20 years old and shipped off to the military to fight some war?

00:52:56.000 Or like a defensive nuclear war?

00:52:58.000 Like, I guess robots?

00:52:59.000 If you decide not to push back, I mean, that's part of a part of self-determination, right?

00:53:03.000 Like you have the free will to be actively present in the life you have right now and to do what you can to make the world a place that you would want to pass down to your children.

00:53:11.000 I think you have to resist giving up.

00:53:14.000 Yeah, man, because you can't lose hope.

00:53:15.000 The establishment actually thrives off of you not having hope.

00:53:18.000 When the people they're trying to subjugate don't see a path forward, that's when they win.

00:53:22.000 That's when they win.

00:53:22.000 And that's part of the attack on religion.

00:53:24.000 Yep.

00:53:25.000 Yep, absolutely.

00:53:26.000 The attack on religion and the attack on the family as well.

00:53:28.000 You mentioned something about children.

00:53:29.000 Again, I don't have any kids, but From every single parent I've ever spoken to, it sounds to me like choosing to have children is a tremendous act of hope.

00:53:37.000 You're hoping that there will be a better future.

00:53:39.000 You're being optimistic and saying, I'm going to bring life into this world because I think it's going to be a good thing that I did it.

00:53:47.000 You mentioned to us before the show that you renewed your faith in your early 20s.

00:53:51.000 Was this idea of hope and having a path forward something that did that for you?

00:53:55.000 That's a good question.

00:53:55.000 I mean, really, you know, growing up in what's considered to be a secular Jewish environment, although it was very strongly ethnic because of the immigrant component of my parents and grandparents, you know, and then finding myself as someone whose own parents had not gone to college and all of a sudden I was at Princeton, so I was in the very precipice of In an elite school.

00:54:21.000 In an elite school, and supposedly the entree into the elite of the world, which is not what I learned much, much later, was that these schools mostly perpetuate networks.

00:54:31.000 They're not there to invite you into their network, although if you want to de-self yourself enough to really be a member of the club, you could.

00:54:38.000 De-self yourself.

00:54:39.000 Well, but that was precisely, that's actually a Jane Coleman, that's my wife's, that is my wife's phrase, not that she ever uses it.

00:54:45.000 You know what Woodrow Wilson said?

00:54:47.000 The purpose of academia is to make a man as little like his father as possible.

00:54:51.000 Yes, and that's why his name has been stripped off every building in Princeton.

00:54:56.000 Ironically.

00:54:56.000 Honestly, I think that's the one thing he said they'd probably love.

00:55:00.000 Right, but not his name.

00:55:01.000 Exactly, they moved away from their ideological father.

00:55:03.000 But the answer to the question is yes.

00:55:05.000 I mean, looking at this strong identity that I had and then looking at what really assimilating really meant and the fact that I knew that I had an inherent belief in God and in the validity of the Jewish tradition Being something that was valid and meaningful to me it What I did was I went to I went to Israel to study and became much more knowledgeable about my heritage and actually took a couple of years between Graduating law school and starting my career my what would eventually become legendary legal career To bring some humility to you imagine what it was like before I

00:55:55.000 Can you just imagine?

00:55:56.000 I don't think I can.

00:55:57.000 No, actually, well, that's much more humbling than being 25 years old and have a degree from Princeton and from law school in Northwestern.

00:56:06.000 Yeah, that sounds really humbling, man.

00:56:07.000 No, no, no.

00:56:08.000 And then going to a beginner's yeshiva in Israel and learning Basically the ABCs.

00:56:16.000 Yeah.

00:56:16.000 You know, stuff that my kids learned when they were seven and eight.

00:56:20.000 Yeah.

00:56:20.000 So that was, but the humbling effect did pass, yes.

00:56:25.000 Yeah, no, of course.

00:56:26.000 Well, and I'll mention this, and I think we could have a really fascinating discussion about this and about religion and faith on the after show, but this is one thing a lot of people are deprived of is a religious education because parents say, you know, I want to let my kids choose when they're older.

00:56:39.000 Your kid's gonna make a choice when they're older regardless.

00:56:42.000 Give them an inheritance.

00:56:44.000 Give them a faith.

00:56:45.000 Teach them something so that if they do choose it, they don't have to start from square one like they're like a little kid learning it all for the first time.

00:56:51.000 And my friend from Princeton days, Yoram Hazony, writes in his books about national conservatism and about conservatism.

00:57:00.000 People under a misapprehension, they think, well, why should my child be exposed to our particular religion?

00:57:07.000 Sure, he has to have a religious education, but what makes our family's tradition any more valid? 1.00

00:57:15.000 Stop asking a stupid question. 1.00

00:57:17.000 It's your family's tradition. 1.00

00:57:19.000 It's what made you who you are.

00:57:21.000 Do you like your parents?

00:57:22.000 Do you like your grandparents?

00:57:23.000 If you don't, it's probably because of Freud. 1.00

00:57:25.000 Throw that stupid-ass tradition out the window. 1.00

00:57:28.000 Based. 1.00

00:57:28.000 All right, yeah, we agree on that. 1.00

00:57:29.000 We definitely agree on throwing Freud out.

00:57:31.000 We could save more of this today, for sure.

00:57:32.000 Yeah, and I think we'll save more of it.

00:57:33.000 One thing I would say to people, too, is when you start learning about Christianity and Catholicism and decide to become Catholic, then don't.

00:57:39.000 You know, feel free to not do the same thing.

00:57:40.000 I told you this was going to be a contentious show.

00:57:42.000 I just knew that Blame the Jews card would be played.

00:57:45.000 We'll talk about it on the after show.

00:57:47.000 We'll talk about it on the after show.

00:57:48.000 Let me give you a touch more of the black pill before, and then we can carry the rest on to the after show.

00:57:52.000 Give us a little bit of that, because the next story is a black pill, so let's get I gained a faith in God 10 years ago or so, 15 years ago.

00:57:58.000 I started to feel it.

00:57:59.000 I was like, okay, cosmic microwave background radiation, radio telescopes can see this web of radiation.

00:58:04.000 I'm like, maybe this is God or part of, maybe I'm seeing like an after effect of it or something.

00:58:08.000 But then I'm like, okay, the last week I was like, oh geez, good and evil.

00:58:12.000 People are like, good triumphs over evil and all the movies, good triumphs over evil.

00:58:15.000 And I'm like, you know what?

00:58:17.000 I think most of the time, evil triumphs over good because it's willing to destroy, and then it just tells people it was the good guy.

00:58:24.000 And I think that's the history of humanity.

00:58:26.000 So even if you believe in God and all these things that we're supposed to believe in and have faith, it's like, then what?

00:58:32.000 We're going to perpetuate this cycle of evil taking over again and then brainwashing everyone to think that they were the good Wrong!

00:58:37.000 So pessimistic.

00:58:38.000 We'll get into it on the after show.

00:58:39.000 Thank you.

00:58:39.000 We'll get into it on the after show, because we have other black pills that I have to feed people right now.

00:58:43.000 Otherwise I'd want to stay on this topic, so we will flesh it out later.

00:58:46.000 But speaking of humility, we've got a story about Hunter Biden here, the most humble member of, I guess we could say, our royal class in the United States.

00:58:56.000 At this point, especially when you look at the way that they're treated.

00:58:59.000 I mean, no, effectively, he's royalty.

00:59:01.000 It's one of the number one critiques of monarchy, and it's one of the number one reasons people supported democracy.

00:59:06.000 What happens if you're in a monarchy and the king just has an absolutely horrible family unit being ruled by complete degenerates?

00:59:14.000 Well, that's not a what-if.

00:59:17.000 That's literally what is happening to us right now in a democracy.

00:59:20.000 Plenty of depravity in the history of the Roman Empire, right?

00:59:23.000 Amen.

00:59:23.000 These guys, they filled up the history books with some pretty sleazy moves.

00:59:30.000 But we have our own royal family.

00:59:33.000 We wouldn't want them to get all the glory.

00:59:35.000 We would also want to destroy the reputation of American people. 0.76

00:59:38.000 Well, exactly.

00:59:39.000 So we have elites in this country.

00:59:41.000 This is something Ian and I talked about quite a while ago.

00:59:44.000 And what I said is the way I define elite is someone who will not pay any consequence for their actions.

00:59:49.000 That's basically how an elite is defined in a system which is as corrupt as ours is.

00:59:53.000 And when you're looking at somebody like Hunter Biden, and our next story, which is the fact that IRS whistleblowers actually came out, and not just one, but two of them, and alleged that there was political interference in the Hunter Biden investigation.

01:00:06.000 Talk about information I didn't Exactly.

01:00:11.000 This is exactly what I was saying earlier with the lab leak hypothesis, right?

01:00:14.000 There's just story after story after story of the conspiracy theorists being proven right.

01:00:21.000 Information that we were already well aware of.

01:00:23.000 I appreciate these guys coming forward.

01:00:25.000 I agree that this stuff has to come out and it's good that they're talking about it.

01:00:29.000 But the fact is, nobody thought this was going to be impartial or unbiased.

01:00:33.000 Under the Obama administration, the IRS was specifically targeting conservative groups.

01:00:38.000 This has been a biased organization for a very long time.

01:00:42.000 It didn't start with Hunter Biden.

01:00:44.000 And if it did start with Hunter Biden, it was so blatant and obvious that basically everyone in this country was already in a position where they'd be capable of hearing it without these whistleblowers.

01:00:52.000 That said, we're glad they stepped forward.

01:00:54.000 They should be commended and they should be thanked.

01:00:57.000 The Justice Department in Delaware U.S.

01:01:00.000 Attorney's Office went out of their way to hamper an IRS investigation of Hunter Biden's taxes by consistently slow walking the case, preventing enforcement actions by the IRS, and tipping off actions related to the investigation to Biden's attorneys in advance, according to a new whistleblower testimony released Thursday by the House Ways and Means Committee.

01:01:22.000 Now, just a show of hands, who in the room is surprised by this?

01:01:26.000 Cricket sound effect.

01:01:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:01:28.000 It's weird when there's a story where the IRS are the good guys.

01:01:31.000 The IRS are like, we're just trying to do our job!

01:01:33.000 The people disobeying the IRS from inside of the IRS are the good guys.

01:01:39.000 But it's the Justice Department and Delaware Attorney's General Office that are slow-walking this investigation.

01:01:46.000 The mere fact that they never acted on any of this stuff, I mean, you know, that's the dog that didn't bark.

01:01:52.000 I mean, it was obvious.

01:01:53.000 And I mean, and apparently everyone knew that that was a private franchise of the Biden family.

01:02:00.000 I mean, this is not news to anyone.

01:02:03.000 Yeah, well, and you look at the fact that Biden, Hunter Biden that is, specifically, failed to pay about a million dollars in taxes, and I'm asking you, as a lawyer, if I, you know, a nice guy like me, failed to pay the government a million dollars that I owed it, do you think I would get two misdemeanor charges?

01:02:22.000 I'd be able to plea down to that?

01:02:24.000 I think you'd get two misdemeanor charges on every square inch of your body, and the felony charges would be lodged in other parts of your body.

01:02:33.000 That would be less visible.

01:02:35.000 Yeah, no, okay, that's a colorful way of describing it.

01:02:37.000 Now let me ask, what if you were my lawyer?

01:02:39.000 Then you wouldn't even get the two.

01:02:41.000 Yeah, well maybe that was Hunter's mistake.

01:02:43.000 He didn't hire you.

01:02:45.000 You would get a congressional medal of honor.

01:02:48.000 I mean, I think it's worth noting that he admitted... I'm surprised Hunter didn't, to be honest.

01:02:52.000 I mean, it's coming.

01:02:53.000 He hasn't gotten it yet.

01:02:54.000 There's no such thing as a law firm anymore that works for both Democrats and Republicans.

01:02:58.000 That's over.

01:02:59.000 I don't know if you might have picked up on this Harmey Dillon thing, but we are a Republican law firm.

01:03:05.000 Is there really none?

01:03:06.000 There's no impartial ones?

01:03:08.000 For all practical purposes, that's... I mean, in the upper echelons.

01:03:12.000 I mean, it might be in local politics that it's still more, you know, unpolitical, but... Is that just since Trump got in?

01:03:20.000 Trump was the turning point.

01:03:24.000 Yeah, I would say so.

01:03:27.000 I think it's worth noting that this whistleblower testimony was pre-scheduled, I'm assuming, so they always knew that they were going to testify on the 22nd.

01:03:36.000 And earlier this week is when Hunter Biden accepts his plea deal and is like, ah, yes, I did do something wrong.

01:03:42.000 We're not going to talk about it anymore.

01:03:44.000 That means they knew this was coming.

01:03:45.000 That makes me think, what else is going to come out?

01:03:48.000 Again, I always think anyone in these positions of power or privilege try to get in front of the story.

01:03:55.000 So if Hunter accepted the plea deal on, what was it, Monday, what other whistleblower testimony are they trying to prevent from moving forward?

01:04:02.000 Because his attorney specifically said, with this plea deal, my understanding is that the investigation is closed.

01:04:08.000 Like, now we stop.

01:04:09.000 Now we don't ask any more questions.

01:04:11.000 Was it ever open?

01:04:13.000 It's true, but it is interesting that his attorney's position is, now you stop asking questions.

01:04:19.000 Hunter took the guilty plea.

01:04:20.000 We're not going to talk about it anymore.

01:04:21.000 And obviously, I don't think most of the American public agrees with that.

01:04:25.000 We've referenced it a couple of times, this idea of a multi-tiered justice system in which Hunter Biden is allowed to, you know, Every report that I read after his plea came out was, he is not expected to serve jail time.

01:04:38.000 He's also got this gun charge hanging over his head that is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

01:04:44.000 And he's a white man.

01:04:45.000 You think he's gonna get it?

01:04:46.000 Yeah.

01:04:46.000 No, there's no expectation in our country.

01:04:49.000 He will go to jail and the fact that all of us can look at each other and say it's extremely unlikely that Hunter Biden's gonna go to jail for something that anyone else in this room would be convicted and punished to the full extent of the law is crazy.

01:05:00.000 How can Joe Biden who's presenting himself as a man of the people all the unions support him Middle-class Joe, he calls himself.

01:05:06.000 Just ignore himself.

01:05:08.000 Ignore his way out of this.

01:05:09.000 His son is not going to serve a sentence that everyone else in this country would have to.

01:05:13.000 He played the nepotism card when they asked him.

01:05:15.000 This is the rub your nose in it.

01:05:17.000 I love my son.

01:05:18.000 His description as the commander-in-chief of the military when finding massive corruption with a family member was, it's my family member.

01:05:26.000 I love my son.

01:05:27.000 Like dude, you're the commander.

01:05:28.000 You have no choice.

01:05:29.000 You have to put your family member in prison.

01:05:31.000 Like if they violate authority, you do what's right for the country.

01:05:34.000 That's why you have the role.

01:05:35.000 Amen.

01:05:36.000 Well, and I'll also say this.

01:05:37.000 He's a good boy.

01:05:38.000 He's a good boy.

01:05:39.000 For anyone who would argue that he should not allow for Hunter to be locked up because

01:05:43.000 that's his son and he's in this position of authority.

01:05:45.000 Well, you know what?

01:05:46.000 If your son doesn't care for the boundaries that you have to set as a leader enough to

01:05:50.000 not break the law and embarrass you immensely when you're the president of the United States,

01:05:56.000 then what do you owe him?

01:05:57.000 Lock him up.

01:05:58.000 Now, of course, we know what Hunter owes him, and it's allegedly 10%, but...

01:06:04.000 Well, I think it's worth noting that Hunter didn't file taxes in 2017 and 2018.

01:06:08.000 There is no way on earth that Joe Biden wasn't considering running for the presidency at some point in the years before that.

01:06:16.000 That means he knew that he was potentially going to run.

01:06:20.000 Every person who's run for office goes through intense scrutiny.

01:06:23.000 He couldn't have looked at Hunter and be like, did you file your taxes?

01:06:26.000 That would be really good for me if you did that.

01:06:28.000 Well, Hunter's the smartest guy he knows.

01:06:30.000 That's true.

01:06:31.000 Which actually, the thing is, That actually might be true.

01:06:35.000 Hunter might be the smartest person Joe Biden knows.

01:06:38.000 Which is scary.

01:06:39.000 Which is scary, but I think that might be true when you just look at his circle.

01:06:44.000 I think that Joe is going through a state of mind right now where he's like, oh, I did this to Hunter.

01:06:49.000 It's my fault for putting him in Burisma.

01:06:50.000 I'm going to eat this one.

01:06:52.000 Just let him go.

01:06:53.000 He's not.

01:06:54.000 Joe Biden isn't being punished for it.

01:06:56.000 Hunter Biden's not being punished.

01:06:57.000 So no one's being punished for this.

01:06:59.000 And again, this is not the way anyone else would be treated.

01:07:01.000 And I think there is no way voters can look at the Bidens and say they are of the people.

01:07:07.000 They are not.

01:07:08.000 By the way, I mentioned this earlier, but do you remember when he claimed that people called him Middle Class Joe?

01:07:14.000 They didn't mean it as a compliment, man.

01:07:16.000 No one ever called you that, ever.

01:07:19.000 First of all, no one in American politics is going, oh, look at the person, the middle class.

01:07:26.000 That's not how this country works, okay?

01:07:28.000 People who hate the middle class still pretend to love it while denigrating it, stripping all of its wealth away, and insulting its values.

01:07:36.000 No one ever called Joe Biden middle class, Joe.

01:07:39.000 But you were going to make a point, and I so rudely interrupted.

01:07:43.000 No, I don't think so.

01:07:44.000 I think I might have... I do have the ability to make a face that looks like a bat to make a point.

01:07:50.000 But if I was, I don't remember what it was.

01:07:52.000 No, actually, the point was... Ah, I knew it!

01:07:55.000 I have to come up with a point.

01:07:56.000 He's gonna filibuster until he has a point.

01:07:57.000 The point was that there was never any concern whatsoever on his part whether or not he filed the taxes because he knew that he's never been held accountable for anything and he will not be held accountable for anything because they have the system absolutely Right.

01:08:18.000 What if this was Donald Trump Jr.?

01:08:20.000 What would we hear from the media?

01:08:21.000 What would we hear from Congress?

01:08:23.000 What would we hear from the executive branch?

01:08:25.000 There's no way he wouldn't do prison time.

01:08:28.000 Adam Schiff was saying that he had information about Trump Jr.

01:08:31.000 that he was going to be thrown in prison. And we were hearing all of this nonsense from everyone

01:08:37.000 in the media about how the walls were closing in. They were closing in on Donald Trump and

01:08:40.000 they were closing in on his family. And of course, what we ended up finding with the

01:08:43.000 investigation with the Durham report was once again, something that we all knew,

01:08:48.000 which was that the deep state was politically motivated and they were attempting a soft coup

01:08:51.000 against a sitting president. So when somebody who is anti-establishment ends up attaining the highest

01:08:58.000 office in the country in an unbelievable and unprecedented feat by being elected president

01:09:03.000 as an outsider, and then the deep state does everything they can to subvert the democratic

01:09:07.000 process and unseat that person. And everyone in the media repeats a narrative, which we all know

01:09:13.000 was a total farce to the point where they convince the American people to believe things that are

01:09:17.000 factually untrue to the point where 60% of Democrats- To the point where 60% of Democrats said in a YouGov survey that the 2016 election was tampered with by Russians in the sense that they were literally retallying vote totals.

01:09:32.000 Now, no one in the media openly said this, they just very strongly implied it for several years.

01:09:37.000 So that's the treatment that you get when you're an outsider trying to enter into the establishment.

01:09:42.000 When you are in the establishment, you can do what Whatever you want, and you will not pay any price.

01:09:47.000 And if you do, it'll be a slap on the wrist so they can say, see, we're impartial.

01:09:51.000 Hunter Biden did end up catching charges.

01:09:54.000 He was prosecuted in a court of law because we gave him two misdemeanors for something you'd be spending decades in jail for had you done it.

01:10:02.000 I mean, we're done.

01:10:03.000 You can speak to this.

01:10:04.000 That's everything.

01:10:05.000 That's all of it.

01:10:06.000 I think you probably speak to this better than I can.

01:10:07.000 But with a plea deal, both sides come to an agreement.

01:10:10.000 Someone says, this is what we're willing to offer you.

01:10:12.000 And that means the U.S.

01:10:14.000 government was like, Hunter, we're willing to offer you no jail time for this.

01:10:17.000 Like, that's bizarre to me.

01:10:19.000 This seems so crazy.

01:10:21.000 It's not unexpected.

01:10:22.000 He is the president's son.

01:10:24.000 On the other hand, I just think voters should remember this as they go towards November 2024.

01:10:29.000 Absolutely agreed, absolutely agreed.

01:10:32.000 Very, very, very few voters will be swayed by it.

01:10:35.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:10:36.000 I don't know about that because it was something like 10% of voters, according to a poll published by the Washington Examiner, said had the Hunter Biden laptop story not been covered up, they wouldn't have voted for Joe.

01:10:45.000 I just think it's worth pointing out.

01:10:46.000 So you think some people will care?

01:10:47.000 Yeah.

01:10:48.000 That's actually very few, though.

01:10:49.000 10% may have sworn.

01:10:50.000 It was of people who voted Democrat, I believe.

01:10:53.000 I understand that.

01:10:53.000 It was like 7 to 10.

01:10:54.000 I want to double check on that.

01:10:55.000 And it might be that that might have made a difference in a couple of swing states.

01:11:00.000 But at the end of the day, what we are saying is that 90% of Democrats would have shrugged their shoulders.

01:11:07.000 Yeah.

01:11:08.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:11:08.000 Well, we know that.

01:11:09.000 And they'll shrug their shoulders as many times as possible.

01:11:12.000 I agree.

01:11:12.000 You just need to wake enough people up.

01:11:14.000 Referencing polls is risky because you got to find out how many people, it might be that it was like a thousand people were asked and it was 10% of a thousand people said, and the question might've been asked, like, had you known that Hunter Biden's laptop, something, something, whereas opposed to if they just seen the laptop two weeks ago, it wouldn't really have, but when they're looking at the piece of paper with the question on it, they're like, yes.

01:11:30.000 I just think Hunter Biden cumulatively- That's fair, but I do think, I agree with you that polls are imperfect, but I think when we have the information, it's important to do something with it.

01:11:37.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, I think just cumulatively, we should look at Hunter Biden.

01:11:41.000 We should talk about Navy, his daughter, who is also, he's ignoring.

01:11:45.000 I think we should all look at everything Hunter Biden does and say, this is the child that Joe Biden raised.

01:11:50.000 Yeah, well- Maybe it's not enough to persuade every voter, but I think- But the real story though, It's notwithstanding the serious character flaws of Hunter Biden, and many great families have had seriously depraved children.

01:12:05.000 And a great deal of wealth can have that effect on even the best of families, especially when it's wealth generated by corruption.

01:12:14.000 Yeah.

01:12:15.000 But the real story, going back to our theme, is this is what elites can get away with.

01:12:20.000 Yes, it's what elites can get away with, and I'll also add this. 0.99

01:12:23.000 It's not just that Hunter Biden was raised in an extremely wealthy family, it's he was raised in an extremely wealthy family, and his father is a coward and a phony. 0.96

01:12:32.000 His dad also probably wasn't around very much. 0.91

01:12:35.000 I mean, if he worked for 40, 50 years in In Congress.

01:12:39.000 He's been in Congress since the 70s, right?

01:12:41.000 That's a long time to be spending 28 days a month away from your family.

01:12:45.000 He's from Delaware.

01:12:46.000 He took the train home every night.

01:12:47.000 Yeah, he took the train.

01:12:48.000 Middle class Joe took the train home every night. 0.94

01:12:50.000 Yeah, that's what he claimed.

01:12:50.000 They called him Middle Class Joe and he took the train home every night and he fought Corn Pops.

01:12:54.000 He's a bad dude.

01:12:55.000 He ran a bunch of bad boys.

01:12:56.000 He gave himself a nickname.

01:12:58.000 That's what they called me, man.

01:13:00.000 They didn't mean it as a compliment, man.

01:13:02.000 It's like, okay, well, let me tell you something, Joe.

01:13:05.000 This is what happens to you, by the way, when Hunter is the smartest person who you know.

01:13:10.000 Biden was in India alongside the Indian Prime Minister and he raised his hand to his heart.

01:13:19.000 He's in Washington.

01:13:20.000 He was in, oh I'm so sorry, he was in Washington, but they were, you're absolutely correct.

01:13:23.000 Yes, you have the presidential seal right there.

01:13:24.000 Points off as host of Shim Cash.

01:13:27.000 Tim would never make it.

01:13:27.000 You're never coming back on this show!

01:13:29.000 You're out!

01:13:30.000 I'll just wait for Tim to return.

01:13:31.000 I'm the new host.

01:13:31.000 I just know that Tim would just... Tim would have lost his mind.

01:13:35.000 His beanie's off.

01:13:36.000 Here's, here's, well maybe Hunter's the smartest guy I know at this point.

01:13:39.000 I've just completely, uh, completely crashed the boat here. 0.97

01:13:41.000 Let's go screw him. 0.99

01:13:42.000 Okay, deep breath. 1.00

01:13:42.000 Try again. 1.00

01:13:44.000 Alright, so we're gonna start again and we're gonna edit this, okay?

01:13:47.000 No one's ever gonna see this happen.

01:13:48.000 Alright, so this is what happens when Hunter Biden is the smartest person you know.

01:13:53.000 Joe Biden was alongside the Indian Prime Minister.

01:13:55.000 He raised his hand to his heart because he expected that they were going to play the U.S.

01:14:00.000 National Anthem, and they didn't!

01:14:02.000 They played the Indian National Anthem, of course, and Joe Biden stood there and then slowly started to lower his hand when he realized...

01:14:13.000 Oh man.

01:14:14.000 Look at that!

01:14:14.000 What a champ.

01:14:15.000 That's why video cameras are cool.

01:14:17.000 Yeah, I think this is gonna be the thing that's gonna make people realize that Joe is not who they think he is.

01:14:22.000 I think it's seeing more and more Gaffs.

01:14:23.000 But I mean, it's like a Gaff a day.

01:14:25.000 It's multiple Gaffs per day.

01:14:27.000 We see like one.

01:14:28.000 Remember when he said he broke his leg because he was grabbing his dog's tail getting out of the shower?

01:14:33.000 It's like, I don't...

01:14:36.000 Dude, this man got elected and then, I believe it was just right after he was inaugurated, he told us he broke his leg because he tried to grab his dog's tail while he was getting out of the shower.

01:14:44.000 Yeah, his foot.

01:14:46.000 I like to imagine most Americans were looking at that and going, oh my goodness, what have we done?

01:14:52.000 But I actually don't think so.

01:14:53.000 A lot of them were thinking, thank God Trump's not in office.

01:14:57.000 No, he might have broke his leg when he tried to grab his dog's tail getting out of the shower.

01:15:01.000 But it would be worse if Trump was in office.

01:15:03.000 Exactly.

01:15:04.000 That's a lot of the thoughts right now.

01:15:05.000 It's very scary.

01:15:07.000 It is very scary.

01:15:08.000 Ron has a very grim face.

01:15:10.000 Tell me more.

01:15:12.000 How much do you love Joe Biden on a scale from 1 to 100?

01:15:14.000 I know love is a vague word, but... I have no use for Joe Biden.

01:15:19.000 1 to 100 is too granular.

01:15:20.000 Do you think that there's any value?

01:15:22.000 From 1 to 10, he gets a 2.

01:15:24.000 There have been worse tyrants than Joe Byron.

01:15:27.000 Joe Byron?

01:15:28.000 I like to talk.

01:15:29.000 But that doesn't even make him worse, because if you're going to be a tyrant, do it, you know? 0.98

01:15:33.000 He's so mediocre. 0.98

01:15:35.000 He's a wannabe dictator. 1.00

01:15:36.000 He's a mediocre dictator. 1.00

01:15:37.000 He's a mediocre dictator. 0.99

01:15:39.000 I think he should be a proper dictator. 0.91

01:15:40.000 Well, that's the thing, though, is that he's a dictator who you can buy, okay?

01:15:44.000 As opposed to those dictators who you can't even buy because they just have... That's a fair point.

01:15:48.000 The dictators who, like, own the people with money as opposed to the ones who are owned by the people with money.

01:15:52.000 Very good point.

01:15:53.000 I get this vibe.

01:15:54.000 And I don't have a reference that he's, like, functioning as a dictator but doesn't know, doesn't realize it.

01:16:00.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:16:01.000 I think he realized anything.

01:16:02.000 Remember when he said he was losing his patience with us?

01:16:04.000 I'm losing my patience, man.

01:16:06.000 What do you mean your patience?

01:16:07.000 Your memory extends five seconds into the past.

01:16:09.000 It's not possible for you to lose your patience.

01:16:11.000 But he's been a senator, not just a mere member of Congress, which is only a couple of clicks above being a milkman, okay?

01:16:19.000 It's below being a milkman.

01:16:20.000 Milkmen are useful. 1.00

01:16:21.000 They bring us a product that we use.

01:16:23.000 They're good people.

01:16:24.000 Yeah, good point.

01:16:26.000 Speaking of which, I just spilled water on this keyboard.

01:16:27.000 Flip it upside down, that's the best thing.

01:16:30.000 You ever see Tim in a million years... Tim would have never spilled water live on the show.

01:16:36.000 He actually hasn't.

01:16:38.000 You know why Tim lost his voice?

01:16:41.000 I think the thing is, Seamus gets a big ego, and he thinks, I can do this show, Tim, you don't see them after the show every night.

01:16:48.000 He's like, you should've done this, you should've done that.

01:16:50.000 Oh, not only that, he saw Jack last night.

01:16:51.000 It's worse than that, I got him sick actually, I coughed in his drink.

01:16:56.000 I said, I'm gonna be the host next time.

01:16:57.000 My plan was to spit out water on the keyboard.

01:17:01.000 You know, he's a king, he comes in, he absolutely has the moves.

01:17:06.000 Seamus is thinking, obviously anyone could do this.

01:17:09.000 I said it's child's play.

01:17:11.000 Turns out it's harder than he thinks.

01:17:13.000 I'm going to return to the point here because we could talk about endless number of Joe Biden gaffes.

01:17:19.000 My personal favorite was when he was in Ireland and said, I don't want to go home.

01:17:24.000 That's a rough statement.

01:17:25.000 Did he say I don't want to go home when he was in Ireland?

01:17:27.000 He also said he's not Irish because none of his relatives are drunk or in jail.

01:17:30.000 Well, it's rough. 0.95

01:17:31.000 And if you're black, if you don't vote for Joe Biden, you're not black. 0.98

01:17:34.000 There's rough stuff coming out. 0.97

01:17:36.000 Is this enough, though?

01:17:37.000 We're sort of returning back to the same point.

01:17:39.000 Will voters look at this guy and say, we can't keep going?

01:17:42.000 He is unpopular.

01:17:43.000 There were polls that indicated a majority of Democrats felt he was too old to run again.

01:17:47.000 Nonetheless, the Democratic Party seems to think that they're going to, you know, pick him as their nominee.

01:17:54.000 At what point do we look at him and say, Nothing you can do matters because you are going to have the establishment behind you.

01:18:01.000 I'm in that point right now.

01:18:03.000 But I also think hating someone is not the way to make a better world.

01:18:07.000 Like, a lot of what got us here was Trump derangement.

01:18:09.000 People that couldn't stand Trump, they'll vote for anything else.

01:18:11.000 So if people hate Biden that much, they'll vote for anything else.

01:18:14.000 Could be even worse.

01:18:15.000 It could be exponentially worse.

01:18:16.000 And that's why, the reason I say he's not a tyrant is, you know, and before you had your continence prop over here, It was that he's not a dictator. 0.99

01:18:27.000 He's a crook. 0.96

01:18:31.000 And he enjoys having power so that he can enrich himself. 0.99

01:18:36.000 He's been a senator for a generation.

01:18:39.000 Then he was vice president, which is a job where you get lots of quirks.

01:18:44.000 Quirks? 0.99

01:18:45.000 Quirks is an interesting word for that.

01:18:47.000 Perks?

01:18:47.000 Perks.

01:18:48.000 You get lots of perks.

01:18:51.000 Queer perks, that's what I was thinking. 1.00

01:18:53.000 It is Pride Month. 0.51

01:18:54.000 You get a lot.

01:18:55.000 But the point is, he's used to being the boss.

01:18:56.000 He's used to being the man.

01:18:58.000 And he's risen to seniority in the Senate.

01:19:03.000 Therefore, he is impatient.

01:19:06.000 He is short with people.

01:19:08.000 He's not bright, so therefore he uses authority as a proxy for the ability to convince people.

01:19:18.000 And if you, you know, we all should take a look.

01:19:21.000 Everyone, before you go to bed tonight.

01:19:24.000 Look at a video of Joe Biden from the 70s or 80s.

01:19:28.000 This was a very, very articulate man.

01:19:31.000 Not brilliant and not well-spoken as such, but the point is, okay, if he's articulate, he's well-spoken, but he had the tools to do the job.

01:19:42.000 And then he ran out of gas.

01:19:44.000 But what he became was a useful, we have a word in Yiddish, a golem. 0.96

01:19:49.000 He became a zombie, an effective zombie in whom, you know, a new SD card could be placed every morning with that day's, you know, where to stand.

01:20:03.000 And he has all those, you know, many years of authority.

01:20:08.000 When do you think he ran out of gas?

01:20:10.000 I'm just curious about the timeline.

01:20:11.000 During the Obama administration.

01:20:12.000 You know, I think you could see one man coming in and much less of a man coming out.

01:20:16.000 Yeah, he used to talk really fast and sharp.

01:20:18.000 Even in like 2006 in those debates with Obama and Hillary Clinton, man, he was... I mean, I didn't like him a lot, but he was on fire.

01:20:23.000 He made chopped liver out of Paul Ryan.

01:20:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:20:28.000 Did you think so?

01:20:30.000 Ryan was terrible.

01:20:33.000 By the way, whoever coaches the Democrats on debates, years ago, they have a thing about smiling.

01:20:45.000 A really obnoxious thing about smiling.

01:20:47.000 I remember Biden looking into the camera with these phony pearly whites. 0.99

01:20:51.000 Yeah.

01:20:52.000 And just smirking.

01:20:53.000 Always been phony.

01:20:54.000 Oh my gosh.

01:20:55.000 But Ryan was helpless.

01:20:57.000 Ryan was like a deer caught in the headlights.

01:20:58.000 You don't think so?

01:20:59.000 Yeah.

01:21:00.000 Biden?

01:21:00.000 Ryan.

01:21:02.000 Well look, it's been a long time.

01:21:03.000 I mean this was the 2012 cycle.

01:21:05.000 I was pretty young.

01:21:06.000 Even before.

01:21:06.000 I was still in high school.

01:21:08.000 No, he's talking about Paul Ryan versus Joe Biden.

01:21:10.000 I remember watching it and at the time I thought that Ryan did better because I wasn't really impressed by Joe Biden, but that also could have been my political bias and the fact that I was 17 at the time.

01:21:19.000 But we've got another story here that I want to try to push into.

01:21:25.000 Pixar, the beloved children's film Producer, which for a very long time couldn't seem to miss, has been doing worse and worse over the years, and many people are speculating it's because of wokeness.

01:21:37.000 Well, now their new film, Elemental, has absolutely bombed at the box office, doing worse than any of Pixar's films have ever done, and it just happens to feature their first non-binary character.

01:21:53.000 So are those two things related?

01:21:55.000 Is this just a product of The new marketplace and streaming services, it's certainly possible, but I just want to start by highlighting some of the figures here.

01:22:03.000 Firstly, Elemental opened to about $29.5 million its first weekend, which is the worst opening in Pixar's history.

01:22:13.000 To be clear, Toy Story made $29.1 million its opening weekend back in 1995, and it had a $30 million budget, okay?

01:22:24.000 So accounting for inflation, Pixar's first film film when they were a totally unknown studio which did not

01:22:30.000 have hit after hit after hit and a well proven brand blew this current film absolutely

01:22:35.000 out of the water.

01:22:36.000 Elemental, compared to Toy Story's $30 million budget, had a $200 million budget and, not

01:22:44.000 to belabor the point, made the exact same amount its opening week as Toy Story.

01:22:49.000 In face value numbers.

01:22:50.000 In face value numbers.

01:22:51.000 I'm not talking about real income.

01:22:53.000 I'm not talking about real revenue.

01:22:54.000 I am not talking about inflation-adjusted numbers.

01:22:56.000 I am talking about the actual raw figures.

01:22:59.000 So they need to have ten opening weekends just to break even on the production budget.

01:23:07.000 Forget the marketing.

01:23:08.000 Yep.

01:23:09.000 Yep.

01:23:09.000 That's just the production budget.

01:23:11.000 And so... And money's not free anymore, by the way.

01:23:13.000 No, it is not.

01:23:14.000 Interest rates are going up.

01:23:15.000 I watch a lot of these videos about guys talking about what representation and equity and diversity have done to Disney and to Marvel and what very few of the people are talking about is the cost of capital.

01:23:33.000 It's not enough to break even.

01:23:35.000 When you break even, you're saying that the three years that we spent nursing this $500 million on this project, we didn't lose it.

01:23:43.000 Well, actually, you did lose it because the interest on $500 million in the last three years is Real money.

01:23:51.000 I mean, for guys like you and me, it's real money.

01:23:54.000 For you, not so much.

01:23:55.000 Yeah, no.

01:23:56.000 Not Ian.

01:23:57.000 He'll be fine.

01:23:57.000 But no, even for these massive companies, I mean, this is, again, this is another example and probably the worst example, at least for Pixar, in a trend that we've seen over the past several years.

01:24:07.000 And part of it is these streaming services and the fact that people know that if a film doesn't really catch their interest all that much, they don't need to take the kids to see it opening weekend.

01:24:16.000 They can see it later on.

01:24:18.000 But also, there is an element, I think, of wokeness, political correctness, and trying to push leftism in children's media that has affected the revenue that a lot of these companies are seeing.

01:24:28.000 So, an example we saw about two years ago, one or two years ago I believe, was the Buzz Lightyear spin-off film that was released, and it did abysmally.

01:24:36.000 And people were saying that this wasn't a product of the fact that there was a lesbian kiss in the background of the film, and parents were totally fine with that, and they chose not to see it for other reasons.

01:24:45.000 And it's true that some people might have chosen not to see the film for other reasons, but the reality is, two of the top ten highest earning children's films of all time are Toy Story films, right?

01:24:57.000 And then they release a spin-off film, and I'm not gonna go as far as to say it bombed, But it performed very poorly, given that franchise's track record.

01:25:09.000 And people may want to argue, if they're on the left, that the fact that there is a lesbian kiss in a toy story movie didn't affect its marketability, or whether parents would choose to take their children to see it, but I think that's flat-on-its-face absurd.

01:25:24.000 And I think the idea that parents We're in no way affected by a non-binary character being in this children's film.

01:25:32.000 It is equally absurd, even if streaming did play a role.

01:25:37.000 I started out wanting to ask a different question, but I think I've answered that one and I have a new question.

01:25:43.000 My original question had been, at the beginning we talked about Target.

01:25:48.000 And, you know, middle America not wanting to take their kids into a Target store because of the freaky things that they're selling.

01:25:54.000 And now we're talking about middle America not wanting to take their kids to a movie theater because of the freaky things they're selling.

01:26:00.000 Yep. 0.99

01:26:00.000 And in the middle we talked about how Americans don't give a shit! 0.99

01:26:04.000 They'll just vote Democratic no matter what! 0.99

01:26:07.000 And Democratic has completely embraced, the Democratic Party has embraced this entire... There's a disconnection here.

01:26:14.000 The answer seems to me to be that general feel-good political allegiances and voting are hard to dislodge.

01:26:27.000 And even though we can always find, and do always find, social media sharing of footage from footage.

01:26:35.000 The old man said footage!

01:26:36.000 Yeah, we developed it in the dark!

01:26:39.000 Film!

01:26:39.000 Okay?

01:26:40.000 The video of the, you know, family-friendly drag show, and you're wondering, what the hell, family?

01:26:48.000 What parents are taking their kids?

01:26:51.000 But, by and large, at the end of the day, Most normal Americans will even vote Democratic, will even believe the media and the implausible stories that they come up with about origins of the, you know, of COVID.

01:27:09.000 They, when it comes to Pressing, pushing this sexualization.

01:27:18.000 Even forget whether or not it has to do with homosexuality or transsexuality or any of that stuff. 0.82

01:27:25.000 Sexualization of children.

01:27:28.000 People still have, I think, normal people.

01:27:32.000 And that's still the majority.

01:27:34.000 An inherent Revulsion.

01:27:39.000 Why does my kid have to be involved with this at all?

01:27:43.000 Agreed.

01:27:44.000 Agreed.

01:27:44.000 I think that's the right way of putting it.

01:27:45.000 It's a revulsion.

01:27:46.000 A person doesn't have to go through like an intellectual rationalization for why they're not taking their kid to see that.

01:27:50.000 They just go, that's disgusting.

01:27:52.000 I don't want to show that to my kid.

01:27:55.000 They feel it in their gut, and they say, this isn't for our family, and they do something else.

01:27:58.000 They don't need to explain it to themselves.

01:28:00.000 And I think that's the hard thing about modern culture.

01:28:02.000 For a lot of parents, they're being pressed to say, but why wouldn't you do this?

01:28:06.000 Why won't you do that?

01:28:06.000 Right, and they don't have a religious doctrine to fall back on, because they don't go to church anymore, and they don't observe, you know, the tenets of their religion.

01:28:14.000 And yet, their souls are screaming within them that there is right and wrong in this world, that there is Call it natural law, call it God's, but there is morality that there are things that matter.

01:28:27.000 There are values that are not malleable, and people are embarrassed to be associated with a religious rationale for having those feelings, because what could be less fashionable?

01:28:42.000 Well, and I think this is why it's so important to the alphabet people to go after children, because it is true, as you said, this is written on man's heart.

01:28:52.000 He understands this.

01:28:52.000 There are certain things that are wrong, and when a child See something grotesque for the first time, they're going to respond as they are naturally inclined to.

01:29:04.000 I'm not saying everything that we feel internally is indicative of a moral reality, sometimes we're wrong.

01:29:10.000 But, in general, especially when it comes to sexually perverse behavior, when someone's exposed to it, they recoil.

01:29:16.000 They find it to be disgusting.

01:29:18.000 So the reason they want to show it to children is because what they're effectively doing is a kind of perverse exposure therapy, which we usually call grooming.

01:29:27.000 But, of course, because the left wants this particular form of grooming to continue, they're not allowing people to call it that.

01:29:33.000 But that's exactly what it is.

01:29:35.000 We need to try to expose children to this and then gaslight them out of following that initial internal sense of revulsion towards the perversity in front of them.

01:29:46.000 And it doesn't have to even be porosity.

01:29:48.000 As I said, most normal young children are uncomfortable with outward displays of what we might call romantic affection.

01:29:59.000 They don't really want to see mommy and daddy kissing.

01:30:02.000 A kiss is okay.

01:30:04.000 They don't want to see you making out with your spouse. 1.00

01:30:06.000 They do not want any part of that.

01:30:08.000 Yes, they shouldn't.

01:30:09.000 Like an adult wouldn't.

01:30:09.000 But if you wanted to create a world where like adults were just making out in front of each other and in front of kids and being weird.

01:30:15.000 Then you'd go to San Francisco.

01:30:16.000 You'd go to San Francisco.

01:30:18.000 No, but that's what these groomers do. 1.00

01:30:20.000 They try to expose children to it as early as possible.

01:30:23.000 So it becomes normal to them.

01:30:24.000 It becomes normal to them.

01:30:25.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:30:27.000 I think it's also important to mention that a lot of the people that are performing in drag and etc.

01:30:31.000 and in these environments, I mean I was a DJ for years and I've been around a lot of the gay community, say what you will about it, but they don't feel comfortable doing this.

01:30:38.000 They don't want children to be around like that and a lot of them are in the situation where they're essentially being forced by people that are like... Yeah, I represent a couple of organizations, one is Gays Against Groomers. 0.75

01:30:48.000 Yes, okay, great people. 0.97

01:30:49.000 And these are, you know, these are real homos. 1.00

01:30:53.000 These are, in other words, these are people who, they're not, they're, they're, they are, they're activists.

01:30:57.000 They're activists.

01:30:59.000 You know, it is, it is a big part of their identity.

01:31:01.000 I mean, you know, there's like an entire different conversation of, does tolerance of homosexuality require me to have to hear about your homosexual interests all the time?

01:31:12.000 Separate and apart from that, what my clients are saying is, they're killing our community. 0.83

01:31:17.000 Yes.

01:31:18.000 They're killing the reputation and the image.

01:31:20.000 We had, and by the way, There's a parallel to what's happened with race relations in this country.

01:31:26.000 Because most of us, until Barack Obama, not only until Barack Obama was elected, but especially after Barack Obama was elected, thought, we did it.

01:31:41.000 On race relations, yeah.

01:31:42.000 We have turned that corner.

01:31:45.000 We can elect, and by the way, many, many, many people voted for him to demonstrate to themselves that they're not racist.

01:31:54.000 I'm not racist, I voted for a black president.

01:31:57.000 What happened is the door was opened to a radicalization, not necessarily because of Obama himself, I don't think so, but because of people around him.

01:32:07.000 I actually don't have that sort of really intense hatred of Obama that a lot of people do.

01:32:14.000 You should probably talk to someone.

01:32:17.000 I mean, you should get that checked out.

01:32:19.000 Not hatred, strong dislike.

01:32:21.000 I strongly dislike, I won't say.

01:32:22.000 Because hating is not a good thing.

01:32:24.000 Hate is bad, yeah.

01:32:26.000 Strong dislike, but continue, continue.

01:32:28.000 The point is, the people thought that we had sort of had the sexual revolution and a lot of morality, moral choices were unbound and traditional.

01:32:41.000 And we were not necessarily all of us that comfortable, especially those of us who are traditional religionists.

01:32:48.000 Fine, fine, you go and ruin your own society, we're gonna just hunker down.

01:32:55.000 It's inescapable now.

01:32:57.000 Exactly.

01:32:57.000 There's nowhere they won't let you... And by the way... And that's always how it trends, by the way.

01:33:01.000 They're never okay doing their perverse thing and then leaving other people alone to live a traditional and moral lifestyle.

01:33:06.000 There's never a limiting principle.

01:33:08.000 Nope.

01:33:09.000 And there can't be.

01:33:11.000 Because when their entire argument for recognition and acceptance and tolerance is premised on marginalization per se is an evil, That means that there is no margin in which you can leave the most perverse behavior, and there we are.

01:33:31.000 Yep.

01:33:31.000 Well, and this is always how it goes.

01:33:33.000 I mentioned this on the show a very long time ago when I first started doing it, when this conversation came up, but this is why I think Henry VIII and St.

01:33:41.000 Thomas More are such an important case study, because There was nothing St.

01:33:45.000 Thomas More could really do to stop Henry VIII from discarding with his wife and then taking a new woman. 0.98

01:33:53.000 It was just the fact that he knew that Sir Thomas More disapproved of what he was doing sexually that made him say, I have to kill this man. 0.99

01:34:03.000 I have to kill this man. 0.99

01:34:04.000 Is that the guy who's like, will someone rid me of this priest? 1.00

01:34:07.000 Was that the priest?

01:34:08.000 No, I don't believe so.

01:34:09.000 But that's a similar story.

01:34:11.000 Yeah.

01:34:11.000 I mean, there have been a lot.

01:34:12.000 I mean, good priests end up being sort of a sore thorn in the side of a lot of these corrupt rulers.

01:34:18.000 So you think, Ron, Just to understand maybe what you're saying is that like this move towards an openly sexual society or a repressively sexual society is like it's a trend.

01:34:29.000 It's never static.

01:34:30.000 So like the gay rights movement, the liberation of gay marriage, it was always inevitably tending towards complete open sexual transparency towards children.

01:34:39.000 And the only other option is to repress it.

01:34:44.000 It's a very, you have asked the right question and you've identified the dilemma.

01:34:49.000 Because as a First Amendment lawyer, I'll make it first clear that the First Amendment does not protect obscenity.

01:34:58.000 But the United States Supreme Court has essentially defined obscenity out of existence.

01:35:04.000 And made it pretty much a consent issue.

01:35:07.000 Which has nothing to do with obscenity whatsoever.

01:35:11.000 We live in a society now where the only criterion had been, until just about ten minutes ago, had been consent.

01:35:21.000 And we're now broaching that as well, because there's never a limiting principle.

01:35:26.000 So, talking about the sexualization of children, and literally the sexualization and sexuality involving children, the mere fact that people have the audacity to speak in public discourse about Sexualizing children, involving children with sex, is a complete abnegation of the concept that children are deemed morally incapable of giving consent.

01:35:56.000 But we have to, we can't maintain that position because we're also taking the position, we, pretty much you and me, not, that children can give their consent, To having their genitals mutilated and to taking drugs that will supposedly change their sex.

01:36:19.000 There is no limiting principle.

01:36:22.000 Once you say that, this is meant to be a stick in the eye to God.

01:36:27.000 Agreed.

01:36:27.000 It's not merely, by the way, if they had God, no!

01:36:31.000 They are well aware of God.

01:36:33.000 Like you said, there's a resonance in the universe that the soul picks up on.

01:36:38.000 This is what Abraham was the first person to do.

01:36:40.000 He says, this bowing down to rocks and trees, wrong!

01:36:45.000 There's a creator, there's meaning in this universe, there's right and wrong.

01:36:51.000 These people know it.

01:36:53.000 And they feel it, and they hate it.

01:36:55.000 They resent it, and it is a matter of not... There used to be something called agnosticism.

01:37:04.000 I don't know!

01:37:06.000 Most agnostics today call themselves atheists, because it makes them feel that they have a position.

01:37:12.000 Usually one that they can't actually intellectually defend, because they have no familiarity whatsoever with classic religious thinking.

01:37:17.000 Or any thinking, usually.

01:37:21.000 But that's what it's about.

01:37:22.000 It really is a fight against God, as is the entire transsexuality and transhuman movement. 1.00

01:37:28.000 I could not agree more.

01:37:29.000 I think we're going to have a fantastic after show segment talking about all of this stuff.

01:37:34.000 If you guys want to see that, go over to TimCast.com and become a member.

01:37:37.000 But for now, we're going to go to Super Chats.

01:37:40.000 I Am Not Your Buddy Guy for $5 says, Are corpse and the stock market required for capitalism to work?

01:37:47.000 If not, is it worth keeping these concepts if companies like BlackRock will always exist?

01:37:53.000 That's an interesting question.

01:37:54.000 What do you guys think about that?

01:37:55.000 I was taking a note, so someone else answer, because I want to hear that again.

01:37:58.000 I've thought about this a lot, so I'll answer.

01:38:02.000 Corporations are creatures of law.

01:38:05.000 They are an artificial creation.

01:38:10.000 And in the past, Milton Friedman-type libertarians made the mistake of assigning to them a sort of value-free place in economic philosophical thinking.

01:38:30.000 Corporations are just something that people choose to do together.

01:38:34.000 Guess what?

01:38:35.000 They're not.

01:38:36.000 They're actually governments.

01:38:38.000 Some of the most powerful corporations in the world effectively act much in the way that governments do, and many of them are more wealthy than many of the world's governments as traditionally conceived.

01:38:52.000 Corporations are a creation of the law, a very, very creative and brilliant way to raise capital.

01:39:03.000 If I can remove... And avoid liability.

01:39:05.000 Exactly.

01:39:05.000 If the way for us to finance this project is to separate the investment from the liability, that's a deal we'll make.

01:39:18.000 Okay.

01:39:19.000 And we'll double tax you. 1.00

01:39:21.000 There's all kinds of things to talk about.

01:39:25.000 The answer is no.

01:39:26.000 There is no reason you have to have these things for capitalism to work.

01:39:29.000 But if you want it to work, cool!

01:39:30.000 You want it to work, good!

01:39:32.000 You want to have an iPhone?

01:39:34.000 You want to have an internet?

01:39:35.000 You want to have incredible medical developments that are often wildly uneconomical, but they're there, and in theory they might become before?

01:39:43.000 All the things that American capitalism, with all its dynamism, and all its waste, and all its stupidity, and all its brilliance, You do need the ability to have capital formation on the level of what corporations do today.

01:39:57.000 But there's no reason on earth that corporations cannot be regulated by the state, except for one. 0.87

01:40:04.000 There is one reason. 0.99

01:40:05.000 The state sucks. 1.00

01:40:07.000 The state is the problem there. 1.00

01:40:09.000 Very inefficient.

01:40:09.000 So if the five of us could make the regulations, fine.

01:40:12.000 Yeah, yeah, fair enough.

01:40:14.000 We'd fix it.

01:40:16.000 We'd fix it.

01:40:17.000 Oh, we'd fix it before breakfast.

01:40:21.000 Thank you for the question, by the way, and thank you for that answer.

01:40:23.000 You're welcome.

01:40:24.000 I'm rather exhausted.

01:40:25.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:40:27.000 for $5.

01:40:27.000 He said, Shamus, you made it, buddy.

01:40:30.000 You really made it.

01:40:31.000 ShimCast is officially official.

01:40:33.000 Also, remember World War II wasn't that cool.

01:40:37.000 Yes, I did a cartoon about this a while ago that he's quoting.

01:40:41.000 Thank you so much for your super chat and for the support.

01:40:44.000 The question is, when Tim is ready to take back over, will Seamus give up the seat?

01:40:49.000 Is it going to be a soft coup?

01:40:51.000 Yeah, I'm not sure.

01:40:52.000 I feel like Tim should return promptly.

01:40:54.000 Maybe that's why I spilled the water.

01:40:55.000 I'm trying to prevent him from taking the helm once again.

01:40:58.000 Leave the smell.

01:41:01.000 Joseph No says, dude... Oh, I've actually been trying to tell Tim this.

01:41:04.000 Okay.

01:41:06.000 Dude, Tim, Liquid Death made you sick.

01:41:09.000 Advertises H2O infused with real demons.

01:41:12.000 Homepage has link to sell soul and email them.

01:41:15.000 The culture war fight is a fight against demons.

01:41:17.000 Don't invite them in.

01:41:18.000 Pray to God.

01:41:18.000 100%.

01:41:18.000 That stuff's horrible.

01:41:22.000 Stay away from it.

01:41:23.000 Also, they have a- I understand because this is what people will say.

01:41:26.000 Oh, they're just worshipping Satan ironically as a joke.

01:41:29.000 I don't care.

01:41:30.000 Do you think Satan values sincerity?

01:41:32.000 Do you think he wants sincere worshippers?

01:41:33.000 He's fine with you worshipping him as a joke.

01:41:36.000 Okay?

01:41:37.000 Don't- I also- I have always wanted to ask Liquid Death, their thing is to burn cans because it's death to plastic, but their cans have a plastic lining.

01:41:45.000 Yeah.

01:41:46.000 So I don't totally understand.

01:41:47.000 This is a sponsor?

01:41:48.000 It's evil.

01:41:49.000 I don't think it's a sponsorship.

01:41:50.000 No, no, no.

01:41:51.000 They're not a sponsor, but Tim drinks them, and that's why he's sick!

01:41:54.000 Important thing to notice.

01:41:54.000 That is about this.

01:41:55.000 Do you think the devil needs him to drink this in order to make him... I don't think so.

01:41:59.000 No, no, I don't think the devil... No, I don't think he needs it, but... That's not what O'Shim is saying.

01:42:02.000 That's not what O'Shim is saying.

01:42:03.000 I'm just saying that you need not to drink it because the devil's involved.

01:42:08.000 Yeah.

01:42:08.000 That's what I think.

01:42:09.000 I think the important thing to mention about regarding like the plastic is these are not like in plastic bottles that are exposed to sunlight because that's when that plastic is then seeping into the water is when these bottles of water are shipped.

01:42:21.000 They're outside and exposed to the sun.

01:42:22.000 But there's still plastic in them, right?

01:42:25.000 So when you recycle them, what happens to the plastic?

01:42:27.000 This is a conversation for later.

01:42:28.000 I don't understand.

01:42:29.000 This is a conversation for never.

01:42:33.000 This is a conversation for never.

01:42:35.000 We'll talk about it.

01:42:36.000 Maybe Tim was going to blow the whistle on it and he lost his voice because he was drinking Liquid Death.

01:42:40.000 I don't know.

01:42:41.000 I don't know.

01:42:42.000 Liquid Death is going to send you a cease and desist letter.

01:42:45.000 Veldren Olis says, wow, how sick is Tim that he let the cartoonist take the lead.

01:42:51.000 Let Freedom Tunes reign.

01:42:52.000 Well, thank you.

01:42:53.000 I'm getting mixed messages here because he's perplexed that Tim would allow me to host the show, but then he's saying Freedom Tunes may reign.

01:42:59.000 Speaking of which, we released a cartoon today.

01:43:01.000 All right?

01:43:02.000 It's a pretty awesome cartoon.

01:43:03.000 The fans are loving it.

01:43:04.000 And we have a 30-minute long version of it behind the paywall.

01:43:06.000 It's a web review.

01:43:07.000 10-minute long version on the channel.

01:43:09.000 30-minute version on the paywall.

01:43:11.000 FreedomTunes.com.

01:43:11.000 I think you guys will like it.

01:43:12.000 Do you know how some companies take over other companies and they refer to it as a hostile takeover?

01:43:16.000 I'm sort of picking up on that vibe now.

01:43:18.000 No, this is a very friendly takeover, you know?

01:43:20.000 It's very friendly.

01:43:21.000 Do it with a smile.

01:43:21.000 Mysterious that Tim has been sick for so long.

01:43:23.000 Yeah, Tim's a very good friend of mine, you know?

01:43:25.000 Are you sure?

01:43:25.000 Sometimes friends get friends sick so they can do their show.

01:43:30.000 But then you would have had a really good guest.

01:43:33.000 Not a leftover guest that was meant for- Yeah, that's true.

01:43:35.000 Supposedly meant for Tim.

01:43:37.000 No, I asked for you back.

01:43:38.000 I wanted there to be legal help for me.

01:43:39.000 He has to make it look smooth and have a good transition.

01:43:42.000 Fair enough.

01:43:42.000 Or happy to have you back, and this way he doesn't look like he's totally in control.

01:43:46.000 Fair enough.

01:43:47.000 I Don't Know You Guys said the debris field was found.

01:43:50.000 Yeah, that's correct.

01:43:51.000 I think I mentioned that on the show.

01:43:52.000 About a third of a mile away from the Titanic wreckage.

01:43:55.000 We were told it was found.

01:43:56.000 Yeah, we were told it was found.

01:43:57.000 I'm loving the skepticism.

01:43:58.000 Ian is on it.

01:43:58.000 But I do think they're going to pull it all up, right?

01:44:01.000 So we should have photos, I assume.

01:44:03.000 Maybe.

01:44:04.000 Part of the skepticism, though, is blackpilling, man.

01:44:06.000 Like, I need something to believe in.

01:44:09.000 I want to believe somebody.

01:44:11.000 I think both of these men have things to tell you about Ben.

01:44:15.000 Grofty says, Ian, you are the same year birth as me.

01:44:20.000 I have the challenger mission scarred in me.

01:44:23.000 I remember.

01:44:23.000 Maybe we can learn from the starship and this sub test.

01:44:29.000 I think we are learning from these things, at least a little bit about how they'll tell you that they died peacefully.

01:44:35.000 Do you think it's worth not going?

01:44:37.000 Not going where?

01:44:38.000 Like on any explorations?

01:44:41.000 I personally will never, unless I have to get there, I will never take that kind of risk.

01:44:46.000 I can say, I have a fantasy about like swimming the Bimini Road off Southeast Asia because ancient history.

01:44:52.000 Recreational risk-taking on this scale is preposterous.

01:44:56.000 I'm not that kind of guy.

01:44:57.000 It is utterly morally unjustifiable to expose yourself, much less a family member, who I understand may not have been all that eager to go, to this kind of literal mortal risk for thrills.

01:45:15.000 There's plenty of thrilling stuff to do on the surface, or on a nice sightseeing boat, Or even, you want to dive?

01:45:22.000 I mean, but to this level, of course people didn't really appreciate the level of risk.

01:45:27.000 Although, I don't know.

01:45:32.000 Common Sense Fishing says, did you guys forget they found the Titanic by luck while on a top secret mission to find a nuclear sub with nukes on board?

01:45:39.000 It's near the Titanic site.

01:45:40.000 I didn't even know that.

01:45:41.000 I didn't know that either.

01:45:43.000 Oh, I had no idea.

01:45:43.000 I thought they were looking for that diamond that Rose had.

01:45:46.000 I've never seen that movie.

01:45:48.000 I know it's popular.

01:45:49.000 Good for you.

01:45:50.000 These are two people on earth who did not see that movie.

01:45:53.000 You guys, neither of you saw it?

01:45:55.000 We don't really go in for a lot of movies.

01:45:56.000 Good for you.

01:45:57.000 Good for you.

01:45:58.000 I see.

01:45:58.000 Was he saying, the super chat saying that the submersible, the submarine, the nuclear sub found the submersible?

01:46:04.000 Because I know that they were doing voyages to look for the Titanic.

01:46:08.000 They were.

01:46:10.000 Is this true that they ended up finding it doing something else?

01:46:13.000 We're going to have to fact check this.

01:46:14.000 Yeah, let's look into that.

01:46:15.000 Yeah, I believe what happened is there was a sub actually down there, like a U.S.

01:46:18.000 sub, and then they eventually were paying off and were like, whoa, this is definitely something, and then eventually they went and found it again later on and verified their findings.

01:46:25.000 Oh, I want to clarify.

01:46:26.000 The Bimini Road is not in Asia.

01:46:28.000 I was thinking of a different megalith, underwater megalith, off the southeast coast of Asia.

01:46:32.000 I can't stop thinking about underwater megaliths.

01:46:34.000 So I can't blame you for that.

01:46:35.000 Yeah, I'll find the name of the road.

01:46:37.000 Noah Prunier says, don't mind me, this Super Chat is just me making sure that the Potato Man can rub it in Tim's face.

01:46:44.000 Shim cast forever! 1.00

01:46:46.000 Thank you, thank you for the Super Chat.

01:46:48.000 Appreciate it.

01:46:49.000 If you guys want to send more Super Chats in to make me look really cool... 0.89

01:46:52.000 How long is Tim going to be sick for, Seamus?

01:46:54.000 To make Tim that much richer.

01:46:55.000 Exactly.

01:46:55.000 But look, it'll make me look cool.

01:46:58.000 How long is Tim going to be sick for?

01:47:00.000 How long are we doing ShimCast?

01:47:01.000 How much did you give him of that?

01:47:03.000 Yeah, I'll talk with the lawyer after this show and then we'll determine what you're allowed to say.

01:47:09.000 I have a munchausen by proxy.

01:47:11.000 Tim is my victim.

01:47:14.000 I don't think it's that.

01:47:14.000 I think it's that you're power hungry and you want that chair.

01:47:17.000 Maybe it's both.

01:47:19.000 Very true.

01:47:22.000 Amos Moses said, last night I said the Second Amendment applies to crackheads.

01:47:26.000 That is not my opinion, but the opinion of U.S.

01:47:29.000 District Judge Warrick.

01:47:32.000 The Bruin precedent requires historical context.

01:47:36.000 The Founding Fathers did not prohibit alcoholics or drug addicts.

01:47:39.000 Shamcast is best cast.

01:47:41.000 Well, thank you.

01:47:42.000 I'm glad you like, uh, Shamcast. 0.88

01:47:44.000 Uh, Shimcast over here.

01:47:45.000 I will say, I think there's a difference between... How dare you?

01:47:49.000 I think there's a difference between, um, alcohol and crack, but I'm curious what you would say about that.

01:47:54.000 Do crackheads have a constitutional right to own a gun?

01:47:57.000 Well, let's back that up.

01:47:57.000 Is there really a difference between alcohol and crack?

01:47:59.000 I have found myself...

01:48:02.000 I'm not asking you from experience.

01:48:03.000 I'm asking, legally, does a crackhead have a right to own a firearm?

01:48:07.000 Is that constitutionally guaranteed?

01:48:09.000 A person who is impaired right now, in other words, not someone who once used crack.

01:48:13.000 Would currently use your crack if they keep crack in their house?

01:48:15.000 Someone who's addicted.

01:48:16.000 Yes, someone who's addicted and they currently use.

01:48:17.000 Are they constitutionally permitted to own a gun?

01:48:22.000 There are... I do not claim to be a Second Amendment expert.

01:48:27.000 Fair enough.

01:48:27.000 But give us your best guess as a First Amendment lawyer.

01:48:30.000 Maybe a non-legal expert answer.

01:48:34.000 I think the Supreme Court has never said that the Second Amendment prohibits all regulation of firearms.

01:48:42.000 Let's start there, right?

01:48:44.000 What would be the first trench of reasonable regulation that every reasonable person would agree with?

01:48:51.000 Shouldn't give children firearms.

01:48:53.000 Well, actually, many young people do learn firearm safety in rural areas.

01:48:58.000 Okay, but you shouldn't give crazy people firearms.

01:49:03.000 Is it a reasonableness test?

01:49:04.000 I don't really know.

01:49:05.000 But if there's any regulation whatsoever, I mean, we have legislation that says felons in some places cannot have firearms.

01:49:16.000 Crackheads, let's leave out the fact that by virtue of having crack in the house, you are a felon if you're under Biden.

01:49:22.000 Let's say it's not a problem.

01:49:23.000 No, two misdemeanors, sir.

01:49:26.000 Tax!

01:49:27.000 Yeah, tax misdemeanors.

01:49:30.000 That's how they got El Capone though, right?

01:49:32.000 That's how they got El Capone, those two misdemeanors.

01:49:37.000 Oh my goodness.

01:49:38.000 So the Bruin opinion is an important opinion and we do need to understand that what it is addressing has been a phenomenal amount of Overreaching by the states and by municipalities to find ways and excuses and rationales to regulate Firearms in ways that are not tolerable by the Second Amendment, but if you said that someone is psychologically unfit to

01:50:12.000 You know, to own arms because of the risk that it poses to others.

01:50:16.000 I think that's probably a form of regulation that the Second Amendment would tolerate.

01:50:22.000 Unless and until the Supreme Court says you can't regulate it whatsoever, which I don't think they're going to say, I would not want to die on the hill of crackheads can own guns.

01:50:32.000 I am right there with you.

01:50:34.000 Crooked Smile says, wonder when TikTok is going to do the Hunter Biden challenge.

01:50:39.000 Oh boy.

01:50:40.000 I already know it's not going to be good.

01:50:42.000 Tax evasion and throwing away a firearm to say the least.

01:50:44.000 Wonder if the challengers will get the same Biden treatment.

01:50:48.000 Well, I think we all know the answer to that question.

01:50:51.000 And he didn't even throw his gun away.

01:50:52.000 Didn't his girlfriend throw the gun away? 1.00

01:50:53.000 Is that what happens?

01:50:54.000 Really?

01:50:54.000 Yeah, that's what I read.

01:50:55.000 I mean, you know, it's so unfair.

01:50:57.000 I'd be so angry, you know?

01:50:59.000 Who threw my gun away?

01:51:01.000 Who did this?

01:51:02.000 Who did this?

01:51:02.000 It's because she felt he was a danger from what I understand from one of her reports.

01:51:07.000 This woman felt that whoever found the gun rummaging through the trash would be better suited to own it than Hunter. 1.00

01:51:14.000 That's how bad it was.

01:51:16.000 Grizzlock says, it's not that 90% don't care, it's that 75% don't even know what the heck is going on.

01:51:23.000 To begin with, censorship mine.

01:51:25.000 He didn't say heck.

01:51:26.000 Amen.

01:51:27.000 Yeah, I think there's truth in that.

01:51:29.000 I think there's truth in that.

01:51:30.000 I think it's more like 68% and that there's a 12%, you know, I think that's right. 1.00

01:51:36.000 It is astonishing how much, well we heard last night, you know, in the third hour about how So many people have no idea what's going on.

01:51:51.000 Especially, the worst thing a person could do is rely on mainstream media. 0.99

01:51:58.000 It's worse than not even reading, because it makes you dumber. 1.00

01:52:03.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:52:06.000 The Moffinator says, Tired of drew under the shabby pressure of daily life?

01:52:11.000 Do you feel like you don't know, Jack? 0.61

01:52:14.000 Do you got hairy legs?

01:52:16.000 Dr. Bada Kavkar provider to say to see if next all rest in is right for you

01:52:21.000 Thank you that up on purpose Of course, I'm not gonna pass that up. Come on

01:52:30.000 Can you do a Stewie though like Jack does I mean yeah the brink and which is the

01:52:35.000 I'm certainly not pronouncing that properly.

01:52:39.000 Smreker.

01:52:39.000 Alright, Lawrence.

01:52:40.000 Oh, man.

01:52:41.000 We have Aaron Smreker.

01:52:43.000 I'm certainly not pronouncing that properly.

01:52:46.000 Smreker, Smreker.

01:52:47.000 Just say it with confidence.

01:52:48.000 You're good.

01:52:49.000 Aaron Smreker, Seamus, the regime's act of admitting their true intentions is a black 0.97

01:52:55.000 magic practice.

01:52:56.000 They will tell you what is to come and it is up to you to stop them.

01:53:00.000 Think the WEF and Agenda 2030 or Event 201.

01:53:04.000 I'm curious what the rest of you think of that.

01:53:07.000 How do you stop them?

01:53:08.000 I don't disagree that if someone's corruptly trying to destroy, distort, I don't know.

01:53:15.000 One person's destruction is another person's creation.

01:53:17.000 So like, how do you do it?

01:53:20.000 How?

01:53:21.000 I don't know.

01:53:21.000 And what are you doing exactly?

01:53:24.000 How do you stop?

01:53:25.000 We don't want to stop reality.

01:53:27.000 That means it is done for everything.

01:53:29.000 I would hate that.

01:53:30.000 We want to keep going, but how do we change it?

01:53:34.000 I've absolutely lost track of what we're talking about.

01:53:37.000 Oh, corrupt governments?

01:53:39.000 How do you step in and change a corrupt government from within the country?

01:53:43.000 Pinochet's helicopter tours says search for the USS Scorpion led to discovering Titanic.

01:53:50.000 Okay.

01:53:51.000 So I guess it's been a second Super Cheddar said it.

01:53:53.000 So is that good then?

01:53:54.000 Like we have the Navy out doing whatever it needs to be doing?

01:53:57.000 I suppose so.

01:53:58.000 Are we glad we found the Titanic?

01:54:00.000 Look, I'm glad.

01:54:01.000 Or did it open up Pandora's box where now billionaires are getting unstable submarines and go after it.

01:54:06.000 Billionaires are going to do what they want to a large extent.

01:54:09.000 That's so true.

01:54:09.000 Unless they're Donald Trump.

01:54:11.000 So Jacob says, Hey Shammers, how are you doing?

01:54:14.000 Firearm industry worker here.

01:54:16.000 The federal form 4473 lists question 21G.

01:54:20.000 Are you an unlawful user of or addicted to marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

01:54:26.000 Absolutely correct.

01:54:27.000 It does.

01:54:27.000 It absolutely does.

01:54:29.000 No disputing that.

01:54:29.000 So what happened was on last night's show, I said that I don't think crackheads should be able to own guns.

01:54:34.000 People are actively, you know, smoking crack.

01:54:38.000 And people were asking, or people were basically saying that the Second Amendment still protects that.

01:54:44.000 My point is that I think it is reasonable to have restrictions.

01:54:47.000 And what I said yesterday is when the founders wrote the Constitution, what they said is that you need a virtuous populace in order for something like this to ever really be pulled off effectively.

01:54:55.000 And one of the hallmarks of a virtuous populace is that they Don't smoke crack.

01:55:01.000 No.

01:55:02.000 Yeah.

01:55:02.000 You can't do that virtuously?

01:55:03.000 Yeah.

01:55:04.000 What if you do it while you're giving?

01:55:05.000 There's no crack in moderation.

01:55:06.000 There's no like virtuous amount that you can smoke.

01:55:09.000 You smoke crack, but then you give to charity.

01:55:10.000 You smoke crack, but you're at a soup kitchen.

01:55:13.000 No, no, no.

01:55:13.000 Well, hold on a second.

01:55:14.000 Then yes, giving to charity or giving to the soup kitchen would be a good thing to do, but the act of smoking crack does not become virtuous.

01:55:21.000 So judgmental of you.

01:55:22.000 I know.

01:55:22.000 Never let us have any fun!

01:55:24.000 I'm a really, really mean guy.

01:55:26.000 Jacob Jones says, Ian, it was Henry II speaking of Thomas Beckett, that's right, 12th century, with Won't Somebody Rid Me of This Priest, which he said while drunkenly raving.

01:55:37.000 Oh wow.

01:55:39.000 Geez.

01:55:39.000 Don't drunk man's words, sober man's thoughts, let me tell ya.

01:55:43.000 Yeah, let's never go back to a monarchy.

01:55:45.000 Well, we got one.

01:55:49.000 But just not a cool one.

01:55:50.000 Would it be better to have a monarchy that we know is a monarchy?

01:55:53.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:55:53.000 Because democracy eliminates class consciousness.

01:55:56.000 It does.

01:55:56.000 Sorry, I totally cut you off.

01:55:58.000 But at SHMCAS you can do what you want?

01:56:01.000 That's right!

01:56:02.000 Better to have a monarchy that we know as opposed to like a corrupt, a visage of a democracy or a republic that's actually run by one guy in a boardroom somewhere?

01:56:11.000 Or even if it's not one guy in a boardroom, but it's, you know, 15 guys, you know, in Davos, Switzerland, or whatever the hell, you know, however you want to imagine, you know, the New World Order.

01:56:24.000 If you know, you know, monarchies have fallen, and houses of monarchies have fallen and been replaced.

01:56:30.000 I mean, Henry II was not a grandpa of Henry VIII, you know.

01:56:36.000 Monarchies lose, you know, there can be transitions.

01:56:41.000 One of our problems, in fact, this lightbulb is going over on my head right now, I don't know if your cameras are sensitive enough to pick it up, but is that we are all so busy intoning our commitment to democracy, That we are reinforcing the illusion that democracy exists and we need to come to terms with the fact that, you know, this elitist, this multi-track system of reward and punishment exists and, you know, that democracy perhaps would be a good replacement for it.

01:57:15.000 Yeah, also, well, I'll say this, for anyone who's interested in the arguments in favor of monarchy, because especially in the public school system in the U.S., they'll explain to you the benefits of every system, communism, socialism, all of these horrible destructive ideologies, and then you never hear the other side of the question with the democracy vs. monarchy debate, so Hans-Hermann Hoppe has written a brilliant book on this called Democracy, The God That Failed, which I would just encourage everybody to check out.

01:57:39.000 It's a really good read.

01:57:40.000 Very brilliant.

01:57:41.000 So, we're coming up on wrap-up time.

01:57:45.000 It's been really awesome having you with us here, Ron.

01:57:48.000 I want to thank you for coming on to the show and also give you an opportunity to plug whatever it is you want to plug, my friend.

01:57:53.000 You know, I'm Ron Coleman.

01:57:54.000 You can find me, just Google Ron Coleman lawyer, you've got to use the word lawyer, you're going to get the bodybuilder.

01:58:00.000 You'll look for a while, then you'll figure out it's not the same person as me.

01:58:04.000 Who can bench more? 0.99

01:58:05.000 Well, I bench—oh, it's just a Yiddish joke. 1.00

01:58:08.000 It's not even worth it.

01:58:08.000 Who can bench more?

01:58:10.000 Big Ron Coleman actually can barely move his arms right now, I think.

01:58:13.000 He's not a healthy man.

01:58:15.000 But, be that as it may, I'm primarily on Twitter, at Ron Coleman, spelled with an E-C-O-L-E-M-A-N, and when you go there, you'll find all the stuff.

01:58:24.000 Of course, not everyone follows me who ought to follow me on Twitter, but, you know, they eventually come around.

01:58:29.000 And that's all you really need to know.

01:58:32.000 I have a podcast, it's called Cullman Nation.

01:58:34.000 The joke is Cullman Nation finishing finalization, not Cullman Nation, but I'm stuck.

01:58:39.000 Everyone says Cullman Nation, which would be really lame.

01:58:42.000 Those are your fans, right?

01:58:43.000 The Cullman Nation?

01:58:44.000 My fans.

01:58:48.000 I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow.

01:58:49.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

01:58:51.000 I'm so glad I got to be here for the inaugural.

01:58:52.000 Thank you for writing tonight's episode.

01:58:54.000 It came across very naturalistic.

01:58:59.000 It was like a fever dream writing it.

01:59:01.000 I'm so glad you guys all got the script.

01:59:03.000 Also the characterization was phenomenal.

01:59:05.000 I know, your character especially.

01:59:06.000 You guys are good actors.

01:59:08.000 I leaned in sometimes.

01:59:09.000 That was cool.

01:59:10.000 The thing is, I didn't get the script, but I'm so predictable that she was able to write around me.

01:59:14.000 She knew what I was going to say.

01:59:15.000 I'm glad that you're all public figures and I could just read through your Twitters.

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01:59:47.000 Again, thank you guys so much, and I'll see you in the future, I guess.

01:59:51.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

01:59:52.000 Have a great night, guys.

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