Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - University Exposed Experimenting On Full Term Baby Parts w-Cassandra & FreedomToons

00:00:00.000 This is Viral Clip.

00:00:14.000 Alex Jones on the Joe Rogan podcast.

00:00:17.000 And I think it was Eddie Bravo, that's the comedian's name, right?

00:00:20.000 And he says to Alex, do you really think that they're taking aborted babies, like, you know, late term to experiment on?

00:00:20.000 Yes.

00:00:27.000 And Alex is screaming and ranting, yes, they had a vote and it's happening.

00:00:32.000 And then all these articles come out saying Alex Jones is a crackpot conspiracy theorist.

00:00:36.000 And now we have leaked documents.

00:00:38.000 And Yahoo News is publishing this.

00:00:41.000 Yahoo News!

00:00:42.000 Come on.

00:00:43.000 You want to come out and tell me the media's biased?

00:00:44.000 They've republished the story.

00:00:44.000 Sure.

00:00:46.000 They're carrying it.

00:00:47.000 And University of Pittsburgh was doing experiments on fetal tissue from aborted babies, some at 42 weeks old.

00:00:56.000 For those that don't know what that means, in the UK at least, 37 weeks is considered full term.

00:01:01.000 That's like a baby that could be born.

00:01:04.000 You could do a c-section, the baby's alive.

00:01:06.000 In the U.S., 40 weeks is widely considered to be a living baby.

00:01:11.000 So they had aborted babies at 42 weeks and were doing experiments.

00:01:17.000 I gotta tell you, man, I read this.

00:01:18.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:01:19.000 I absolutely could not believe it.

00:01:20.000 They were taking tissues.

00:01:23.000 I hope you're ready for this because this is not for the faint of heart.

00:01:25.000 This is not for your kids.

00:01:27.000 This is dark stuff.

00:01:28.000 I mean, YouTube might even take us down because it's how sickening this stuff is, but this is news.

00:01:32.000 Five month old aborted children.

00:01:32.000 Yep.

00:01:33.000 Yikes.

00:01:33.000 ton of outlets. And so I hope you're ready for this. They would take the tissue from

00:01:37.000 these babies and graft it to rats. 1.00

00:01:39.000 Yep. 0.92

00:01:40.000 Talk about dark stuff.

00:01:41.000 Five months old and a board of children.

00:01:42.000 Yikes.

00:01:43.000 Very, very dark stuff. So we'll talk about that. It's not going to be a completely dark

00:01:47.000 episode, you know, show. We do have a bunch to make fun of Biden about. So we'll laugh

00:01:53.000 and we'll cry. So I hope you're ready for one of the more serious shows because I, you

00:01:58.000 know, I saw this story and I was like, we got it.

00:01:59.000 How could this be real?

00:02:00.000 Yeah.

00:02:01.000 How could how could universities be doing this?

00:02:02.000 And it's, you know, when when, you know, Seamus mentioned before the show, we're a nation of tolerators.

00:02:07.000 When people are just like, hey, man, I'm going to I'm going to mind my own business.

00:02:10.000 It's like, dude, what's that saying?

00:02:12.000 You know, all that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

00:02:15.000 That's right.

00:02:16.000 Well, let's talk about it.

00:02:16.000 We are hanging out with we got a good crew.

00:02:18.000 It's Friday night.

00:02:18.000 We're going to have a chill night.

00:02:19.000 We got Cassandra Fairbanks hanging out. 0.94

00:02:21.000 Hey, you have.

00:02:22.000 Do you want to make an announcement?

00:02:24.000 Hey everybody, thanks for coming Cassandra.

00:02:27.000 What's up?

00:02:27.000 What's a PETA thing?

00:02:28.000 animals. Oh yeah.

00:02:29.000 My general announcement.

00:02:30.000 Geez, this is such a dark episode.

00:02:31.000 I've been down, man.

00:02:32.000 I'm laughing, man.

00:02:33.000 That's all you can do.

00:02:37.000 We have Ian.

00:02:38.000 He's chillin'.

00:02:39.000 Hey, everybody.

00:02:40.000 Thanks for coming, Cassandra.

00:02:41.000 What's up?

00:02:42.000 What's a PETA thing?

00:02:43.000 Well, let's do it after the intro.

00:02:44.000 Yeah, I'll go into that.

00:02:45.000 Well, I think we should talk about that after we have a discussion on what's been done to

00:02:47.000 these innocent children who were killed and used for scientific experiments.

00:02:50.000 I'm Seamus of Freedom Tunes.

00:02:52.000 It was funny, when we started the show, or when we were going to start the show, we were doing the pre-show, I kind of had like a bit planned and some things we were going to joke about to call back to last episode and some jokes we were telling then, but this is just so dark that it kind of brought the energy down, but I think that's important.

00:03:06.000 I mean, there are some Topics that I think the audience should really hear about, even if it's not going to be extremely entertaining.

00:03:13.000 And the reality is, we are a society of tolerators.

00:03:16.000 We don't build things, and we don't prevent people from destroying things.

00:03:18.000 We just let other people act in our stead.

00:03:21.000 My grandfather fought in the Second World War, and after two years of battling through Europe, he liberated the Flossenbürg concentration camp, and he was fluent in German.

00:03:33.000 So he went to the local priest and he asked him, how could you let this happen?

00:03:39.000 People were being slaughtered near your town.

00:03:41.000 You knew it was going on.

00:03:43.000 You didn't do anything.

00:03:44.000 And what the priest said was that the SS told him if he said anything or tried to do anything, they would come in and murder all of his parishioners.

00:03:51.000 And I remember as a kid thinking about that and wondering, what would I do in that situation if people I knew and loved would be killed if I spoke out against evil?

00:03:58.000 But here I am, and it's 2021, and we all have the opportunity to speak out about unborn children being slaughtered every single day, about human experiments being performed on completely faultless, defenseless human beings who were killed in the womb, about children who were killed after they were born so their organs could be harvested, and we don't say anything.

00:04:17.000 And it has to stop.

00:04:18.000 It has to stop.

00:04:19.000 How will we be judged?

00:04:21.000 We're going to get in all that.

00:04:22.000 We got Lydia pressing the buttons. 0.95

00:04:23.000 I am pressing the buttons.

00:04:24.000 You guys all know that I am super pro-life.

00:04:27.000 That is my hill to die.

00:04:28.000 And I'm the one that sent Seamus this article that started all this nonsense because it's really bad.

00:04:32.000 And I'm really hoping to open everybody's eyes a little bit to this.

00:04:35.000 So hopefully it's not too dark.

00:04:37.000 Hopefully we're able to kind of shed some light on it.

00:04:39.000 Hopefully it'll be a pretty good night.

00:04:40.000 We'll see.

00:04:41.000 You know, we had a bunch of jokes, like Ron DeSantis was making fun of Joe Biden saying his brain isn't all there, and we're all laughing and having a good time, and then we pull up the story and we're like... Man.

00:04:53.000 This is the world?

00:04:53.000 Wow.

00:04:55.000 Dude, things have been getting dark.

00:04:57.000 I'll tell you this, we got a lot going on.

00:04:59.000 I mean, the military coming out in Sydney to lock things down.

00:05:02.000 You've got the... there's too much.

00:05:05.000 The Apple spying thing.

00:05:07.000 They always try to go, you know what?

00:05:09.000 I want to save that because I want to keep that in the context of what they're doing to children.

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00:05:22.000 I don't know, man.

00:05:22.000 I would say of all of the shows to share, this is probably the most important, but I don't know how many people are going to want to be like, look at this, because I was reading the story and I was like, Shamus, what happened?

00:05:34.000 I'm like, I don't even know if I want to read it to you.

00:05:35.000 But we're gonna do it.

00:05:37.000 I had to step outside after Tim was reading the details.

00:05:40.000 I had to go outside for a minute.

00:05:42.000 My daughter was born at 36 weeks.

00:05:44.000 She was a full person, I mean.

00:05:47.000 Yeah.

00:05:48.000 Well, again, I believe life begins... I shouldn't just say I believe this.

00:05:51.000 I mean, it is a fact that life begins at conception.

00:05:54.000 But people clearly argue over whether an unborn child is a human.

00:05:57.000 I think it's a ridiculous argument, but surely we're not arguing over whether a child that has already been born is human at this point.

00:06:03.000 But evidently we are. 0.60

00:06:05.000 And you mentioned that children... You mentioned 42 weeks.

00:06:07.000 I mean, they induce labor at 42 weeks.

00:06:09.000 I want to say something about this.

00:06:10.000 Let's pull this story up right now.

00:06:12.000 Yeah, let's go.

00:06:12.000 And Alex Jones was right.

00:06:15.000 Let me first give you some context.

00:06:17.000 We have from Yahoo News, government-funded scientists sought out aborted minority babies for research.

00:06:24.000 I mean, on top of that, it's racist?

00:06:25.000 What?

00:06:26.000 I'm not even trying to make a joke about this.

00:06:27.000 This is insane.

00:06:29.000 Researchers at the University of Pittsburgh received at least $2.7 million in federal funds to study fetal organs and attempted to retrieve half their samples from the aborted babies of minorities, according to documents released Tuesday.

00:06:42.000 Again, Yahoo News.

00:06:44.000 The National Institutes of Health had overseen experiments on fetal tissue at the University of Pittsburgh since 2015 from aborted fetuses ranging from 6 to 42 weeks, or two weeks past what is widely considered to be full term.

00:06:59.000 For the particular study in question, the grant request specified that half the samples must come from aborted fetuses of minorities, including at least 25% from African American women, According to documents obtained by the Center for Medical Progress and Judicial Watch, let me just stress, they say they were studying fetal organs, they retrieved them from some babies up to 42 weeks, and they had the nerve.

00:07:21.000 Alex Jones, Joe Rogan War, leads to conspiracy theory meltdown.

00:07:26.000 InfoWars host says babies harvested for organs.

00:07:29.000 Now maybe that's a very extreme interpretation of it.

00:07:32.000 What they're saying is, admittedly not much better, that the babies had already been aborted!

00:07:37.000 So, you know, by all means, they can experiment on that stuff.

00:07:40.000 I'll say, I want to say two things.

00:07:40.000 But I'll tell you this, man.

00:07:42.000 First, when the law allows a baby at 42 weeks to be aborted, then someone can go, well, better not let the living baby go to waste.

00:07:51.000 I'll tell you this.

00:07:52.000 If a baby is at 42 weeks, and I'm going to operate on the assumption, you know, I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe the baby was stillborn or something like that.

00:07:59.000 It's, it's, it's an aborted fetus at 42 weeks.

00:08:03.000 They could have performed a c-section and that baby is alive.

00:08:06.000 So this is beyond the pale. This is something...

00:08:10.000 I want to know what women were carrying babies for 42 weeks to get an abortion, to

00:08:18.000 give it to science, to use as a human guinea pig.

00:08:22.000 Like, what kind of person carries a baby for 42 weeks?

00:08:27.000 Could it have been stillborn, maybe?

00:08:28.000 That's not what the article said.

00:08:30.000 I know.

00:08:31.000 I don't want to believe that our country, that universities, that they're funding this stuff.

00:08:35.000 I want to be like, maybe it was...

00:08:38.000 Believe it, man.

00:08:40.000 Stillborn is a type of abortion, involuntary abortions. 1.00

00:08:43.000 I mean, miscarriages are called spontaneous abortions sometimes, but what we are talking about is children who were being killed intentionally and then experimented on.

00:08:51.000 We know that 100%.

00:08:52.000 Well, we know this because there was an expose done of Planned Parenthood back in 2015 where they went in with hidden cameras and found that Higher-ups at Planned Parenthood were negotiating prices for the sale of fetal tissue, and in the footage they were saying things like, oh, you know, whoever throws a price out negotiations first loses, and making jokes about the luxury cars they wanted to buy.

00:09:16.000 It was really obvious that these people were selling this tissue for profit.

00:09:21.000 And what the media repeatedly said was, this footage is deceptively edited, it's not really happening, but the organization, headed by David Daleiden, I should mention, was putting the full unedited footage on the internet for everyone to see, which isn't what you do when you deceptively edit footage to try to trick the public.

00:09:39.000 Now, Kamala Harris really went after him and did everything she could to prosecute him in California, and then very Catholic Joe Biden selected her to be his vice president, and as soon as he's in office, he repeals the Trump-era restrictions on federal funding for experimentation using aborted children.

00:09:58.000 That is our very Catholic president.

00:10:00.000 That is the devout administration under which we live right now.

00:10:03.000 Now, we got to be careful.

00:10:06.000 That story, Planned Parenthood was awarded a lawsuit over that.

00:10:10.000 They were awarded two million dollars.

00:10:13.000 I believe part of that was he didn't have their consent to film them.

00:10:18.000 I mean, they were very clearly negotiating and haggling over the price for these unborn children that they had killed in order to sell them and Turn a profit on it.

00:10:28.000 Is it that it was edited to make it look like they killed them, but in fact they had been aborted by the parents?

00:10:34.000 I mean, it was Planned Parenthood, right?

00:10:36.000 So what they do is perform abortions, and then they were selling the tissue after the fact.

00:10:40.000 I guess if a mother asked Planned Parenthood to abort the kid, who's the killer?

00:10:44.000 Is it the mother or the Planned Parenthood?

00:10:45.000 We don't need to bring the story up.

00:10:47.000 We have a new story right now confirming it.

00:10:50.000 My point is that this is something we've known about.

00:10:50.000 Sure, sure.

00:10:53.000 Well, the issue there is, if we want this to be clean and straightforward and be able to tell people, when you're sitting down for dinner with your family members who don't believe you, and you bring up that story, they're going to say, oh, those people lost that lawsuit.

00:11:07.000 They were liars.

00:11:08.000 No, we have a story right now. 0.91

00:11:09.000 We don't need to bring up the past.

00:11:10.000 They're doing this.

00:11:11.000 We have documents that were released.

00:11:13.000 They are buying this stuff.

00:11:14.000 I don't care where they're buying it from.

00:11:16.000 Yeah, no, I think both stories are still important.

00:11:18.000 Uh, in part because again, the full footage is available online for people to watch.

00:11:22.000 If somebody doesn't believe you, I think it's an easy argument to make.

00:11:25.000 The crazy thing about this is it like I got it.

00:11:28.000 I'm going to, I hope your, your kids aren't listening, my friends, because let me, let me, let me, uh, let me, let me read this.

00:11:36.000 All right.

00:11:37.000 For the particular study in question, the grant request specified that half the samples must come from aborted fetuses of minorities, as we read.

00:11:44.000 Projects funded by the National Institutes of Health must ensure appropriate inclusion of women and minorities.

00:11:50.000 They should also ensure distribution of the study reflects the population needed to accomplish the scientific goals.

00:11:59.000 Selden said that one of the goals is to support researchers looking for treatments and cures for kidney disease, which disproportionately affects minorities.

00:12:06.000 Selden added that researchers have no part in any decisions as to timing, method, or procedures used to terminate the pregnancy.

00:12:14.000 CMP founder and president David DeLayton slammed the university in a statement on Tuesday.

00:12:20.000 The NIH grant application for just one of Pitt's numerous experiments with aborted fetus infants reads like an episode of an American horror story.

00:12:28.000 Law enforcement and public officials should act immediately to bring the next Kermit Gosnell to justice under the law.

00:12:34.000 Amen.

00:12:35.000 The stuff that they were doing was absolutely insane.

00:12:39.000 I don't know where we had that... Oh yeah, so... I had another story pulled up that was talking about the grafting of fat tissue, but I guess I can't find it.

00:12:46.000 I don't know.

00:12:47.000 Did it get removed?

00:12:49.000 I had a story pulled up about that here.

00:12:51.000 I had some information about that here that I can pull up.

00:12:55.000 They were scalping five-month-old, please, I mean again for the faint of heart, 0.99

00:12:59.000 they were scalping five-month-old aborted fetuses to stitch onto lab rats.

00:13:06.000 Who said that? Who is?

00:13:07.000 I have it, I have it.

00:13:09.000 It's from Newsy, right here.

00:13:10.000 Okay, gosh.

00:13:11.000 Yeah, it says, in one study published last year, Pitt scientists described scalping five-month-old aborted babies to stitch onto the backs of lab rats.

00:13:20.000 They wrote about how they cut the scalps from the heads and backs of the babies, scraping off the excess fat under the baby's skin before stitching it onto the rats.

00:13:28.000 They even included photos of the baby's hair growing out of the scalps.

00:13:32.000 Each scalp belonged to a little Pennsylvania baby whose head would grow those same hairs if he or she were not aborted for experiments with lab rats. 0.54

00:13:39.000 Now that's propaganda.

00:13:41.000 It's a dead body.

00:13:42.000 It's not a baby anymore.

00:13:43.000 Hold on, what do you mean that's propaganda, Ian?

00:13:45.000 That's a child scalping surgery! 0.98

00:13:47.000 Well, someone chose to abort that child, and now to call it a baby is disingenuous because it's a corpse.

00:13:53.000 It's not disingenuous.

00:13:53.000 They killed a baby.

00:13:55.000 Okay, then it's a baby corpse, and they're sewing its scalp to a rat.

00:13:59.000 You don't think that's a violation of human dignity and value?

00:14:02.000 They find that infant skin cells are good for stem cells because they're so young and vibrant, I guess, so they use them in stem cell experiments.

00:14:11.000 That in no way justifies anything of the sort.

00:14:13.000 That doesn't justify it.

00:14:14.000 I don't understand why it's propaganda or how it could be morally immoral.

00:14:17.000 That's a fact.

00:14:18.000 That's literally a fact.

00:14:18.000 That's not propaganda.

00:14:19.000 or how it could be morally immoral.

00:14:20.000 Because they're like, if this child hadn't been, then it would have been a glowing baby.

00:14:23.000 That's a fact.

00:14:24.000 That's not propaganda.

00:14:25.000 You don't know that.

00:14:26.000 That's literally a fact.

00:14:27.000 Ian, how many weeks are in five months?

00:14:29.000 20-ish.

00:14:30.000 Finding, from Newsweek, from 2015, finding that babies born at 22 weeks can survive could

00:14:37.000 change abortion debate.

00:14:38.000 Dude, this 42 week thing is insane.

00:14:39.000 Premature babies at 5 months can survive.

00:14:42.000 It's a 10 month abortion, 42 weeks, that's insane.

00:14:45.000 I'm in the one trimester camp and then after that I think it's murder.

00:14:49.000 I think it's alive, I think it has a brain, I think it's a human, but in the first, you know, couple, three months, it's still developing.

00:14:55.000 Listen, listen, listen.

00:14:56.000 It's a person.

00:14:57.000 I mean, from conception, where else do you draw the line?

00:14:59.000 Like, when the brain is formed?

00:15:00.000 The thing I find craziest about this is that this story is from May, and I write news all day for two websites, and I didn't hear any of these details about it.

00:15:11.000 But all day today, I mean, everybody was outraged about Fauci killing puppies, which they should be, but why isn't there the same outrage about literal, like, full-term babies?

00:15:22.000 Like, this is, I mean... We talk about, like, that infamous group of Japanese scientists that, you know, they were recruited.

00:15:30.000 What was it called?

00:15:31.000 Was that Operation Paperclip?

00:15:33.000 747?

00:15:33.000 Fahrenheit.

00:15:35.000 No, no, no.

00:15:35.000 Operation... was it Paperclip?

00:15:36.000 Where they, uh... Paperclip's where they brought all the Nazi scientists to the U.S. 0.93

00:15:39.000 Yeah, I believe that's correct.

00:15:41.000 Um, the Japanese camp, there was a camp where they were, like, Unit 7... It was Unit 747, I want to say. 0.91

00:15:46.000 No, Unit 7-something.

00:15:47.000 I don't remember, I'm sorry.

00:15:49.000 Yeah, science is a brutal industry, that's for sure.

00:15:52.000 I mean, they used to rip people's... Well, but it shouldn't be, right?

00:15:54.000 It's extremely unethical.

00:15:55.000 Like, science has to be restricted based on legitimate ethical concerns.

00:16:00.000 There are certain things you shouldn't be able to do.

00:16:03.000 The Japanese scientists would, like, take a prisoner and stick their arm out of the door, like, into the cold, and watch it freeze, and then, like, shatter it while the person was still alive in the other room to see what would happen to them. 0.84

00:16:14.000 That's exciting.

00:16:15.000 They say that what we know about frostbite largely comes from the Japanese doing research on live human beings. 0.98

00:16:21.000 That's horrible.

00:16:22.000 I mean, people talk about the Nazi experiments, like, you know, and rightly condemn them pretty much across the board, and then we're doing it here. 0.85

00:16:32.000 Yeah.

00:16:33.000 We're literally doing it in Pittsburgh.

00:16:36.000 Well, and it's crazy because people, I mean, look, people are comfortable with things like this happening as long as they never have to think about it.

00:16:43.000 They can know it's going on, but if it's not brought up, then they're able to sleep at night for whatever reason.

00:16:48.000 And I know that After, for example, the Second World War, I mentioned this earlier, my grandfather and his unit marched all of the townspeople through the camp to show them, this is what happened here.

00:17:05.000 This is what you allowed.

00:17:07.000 We have unparalleled technological infrastructure for communication.

00:17:12.000 This information should be very easy to get to people, but the people who have access to the gatekeeping, more or less, don't want the information getting out there.

00:17:24.000 Even when you do have access to the information, people will shame you for discussing it.

00:17:28.000 So I know that there are some campus organizations and other pro-life groups that will show people what an abortion actually looks like, show people the aftermath of an unborn child that's been killed, and people consider that to be evil or cruel.

00:17:38.000 The act of doing it isn't evil or cruel, but showing people a picture of it, that's unreasonable.

00:17:43.000 What matters is no one ever has to confront what we're doing.

00:17:47.000 We have to protect everybody's feelings.

00:17:49.000 We have to make sure they don't feel guilty about what society is doing and about what the abortionists are doing and the fact that no one is standing up to stop it.

00:17:56.000 The real crime is showing someone that they've supported evil, not the evil itself.

00:18:01.000 The important clarification, for the sake of all of the fact-checkers, would be people are getting abortions, and then doctors are buying the fetuses.

00:18:11.000 Right, we don't want to conflate it that the doctors are murdering the children and taking. 0.92

00:18:15.000 It's like the parents are authorizing this stuff.

00:18:18.000 I mean, but you are complicit if you know that a child was aborted and you are receiving the tissue from... Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:18:24.000 Let's try it a different way.

00:18:25.000 Let's say that you're a researcher and you need fresh corpses that are, you know, From someone who died in the immediate and there's a guy who somehow just keeps happen to have them all for you to buy Yeah, you see the problem I have with this is that they they they lobby for a thing to happen and then exploit the worst Aspects of it in one of the most horrifying and disgusting ways like I don't I don't even know man.

00:18:50.000 I don't this is Making me think of like industrial animal slaughter, because they'll not let people see that stuff either.

00:19:00.000 I got a problem with that too.

00:19:01.000 Pig farms with all the feces and blood and the pools around them.

00:19:04.000 And that's all bad. 0.99

00:19:06.000 It's all bad.

00:19:06.000 But they won't let people take pictures.

00:19:08.000 No one says it's unethical.

00:19:10.000 They don't let you take photos of PETA ripping animals away from the sanctuaries that they're in.

00:19:15.000 And they have the courts siding with them and issuing gag orders on people and not allowing any filming.

00:19:23.000 And also, Ian, the big difference is... People like to hide their crimes.

00:19:26.000 Exactly.

00:19:26.000 I think there's another point here to be made, because there's a significant difference.

00:19:31.000 When somebody shows me an animal being killed, right?

00:19:35.000 Of course, there are more and less ethical ways to kill an animal, but I can still say, I believe that it's okay to kill animals to eat them.

00:19:41.000 If you show me factory farming, I can say, this is the wrong way of doing it.

00:19:44.000 But no one says, it's cruel or inhumane or evil to show someone who has eaten meat what happens when you kill an animal in order to get that

00:19:52.000 But it's considered cruel and inhumane to show to people who are considering abortion what abortion actually looks

00:19:52.000 meat.

00:19:57.000 like.

00:19:57.000 No, I think people get mad at you if you show them the factory farming process.

00:20:00.000 I think there are some people who will get mad at you, but generally speaking, people understand that they're being

00:20:04.000 provided with more information.

00:20:05.000 I think most people, including people who eat meat, understand that factory farming is really messed up.

00:20:10.000 It's really messed up, man.

00:20:11.000 I've been to the farms where they have, like, the organic meat, and I was so impressed.

00:20:16.000 I've told the story before where the cows are just like, the door's open, there's no gate, and I'm like, what is this?

00:20:21.000 It's like, the cows are gonna leave, and the farmer's like, where are they gonna go?

00:20:24.000 And I'm like, anywhere, and he's like, they got food here.

00:20:27.000 And I was like, wow.

00:20:28.000 And so the cows are happy, they live full lives, they have food, it's all automatic, and the farmer just lets them do their thing.

00:20:34.000 And then I've also driven past the factory farms, where the ground is sludge, and they're all packed in, and it's horrifying, and it smells.

00:20:40.000 I saw an undercover video at a factory farm of one of the guys, and what happens is people, either they find people that are already psychotic, no offense if you work at a factory farm, or people that are just willing to allow themselves to be okay with murdering.

00:20:52.000 And what they'll do is, they train themselves to see pig, that means it has to die.

00:20:55.000 And they treat it like, Like a piece of wood.

00:20:58.000 Like they'll pick up a baby and smash it on the ground till it explodes its head and then they'll like throw it in a pile.

00:21:04.000 And there's like living animals screaming as they're getting hit.

00:21:07.000 They started passing these laws.

00:21:08.000 What are they called?

00:21:09.000 Like ag-gag? 0.98

00:21:10.000 Ag-gag. 0.99

00:21:10.000 You couldn't film the horrible things they do. 0.99

00:21:13.000 Like, dude, I'm all about.

00:21:15.000 We're raising chickens.

00:21:16.000 I don't know if we'll eat these ones because they're the stars of Chicken City.

00:21:19.000 So they might get, you know, a pardon.

00:21:22.000 But we're raising a couple babies, and I got no problem eating the animals and growing the vegetables.

00:21:27.000 And you try and do it right.

00:21:29.000 We understand.

00:21:31.000 Now, some people don't eat meat because they don't want to cause suffering.

00:21:36.000 For me, I'm like, well, I'll hunt and I'll eat, but we're going to do it right.

00:21:39.000 We're going to minimize suffering of the animal, and we're going to accept that this is part of the life cycle.

00:21:43.000 But man, I've seen some of these videos where I watch a guy punt a chicken just for no reason.

00:21:48.000 No reason.

00:21:49.000 And I'm like, dude, it's because it's mechanized.

00:21:53.000 It's just, shuffle them in, they throw them in the grinder, and it's just... It's horrible, man.

00:21:59.000 It's really horrible stuff to watch, you know?

00:22:01.000 And... I don't know what you do in that regard.

00:22:04.000 People are definitely willing to tolerate that, but I'll tell you, when it comes to what they're willing to do to human beings... Exactly.

00:22:10.000 It's like, why would I be surprised that they horribly mistreat the animals who are already living horrible lives?

00:22:18.000 When you can see what people are willing to do to each other.

00:22:20.000 Exactly.

00:22:21.000 When you look at what people do to other human beings.

00:22:23.000 And it's no surprise that we have this unbelievably horrific warfare state, where people are killed in other countries, and the United States government will either do it or support governments that will go to war and commit violence against civilians, like the Saudi Arabian government has been doing in Yemen. 0.63

00:22:39.000 Because if I don't have an obligation to care for my own unborn child, and it's okay for me to kill them, then why should I care about somebody on the other side of the world? 0.89

00:22:46.000 We will not have world peace for as long as we have abortion. 1.00

00:22:46.000 We need that. 1.00

00:22:49.000 We will not.

00:22:51.000 We got, uh...

00:22:53.000 I don't know.

00:22:54.000 I don't know what the root of this issue is.

00:22:55.000 I know I can already hear many of the leftists saying it's capitalism.

00:22:58.000 It's the, you know, they cut costs, they reduce costs.

00:23:01.000 And I'm like, I don't think that's it.

00:23:02.000 People, people want and will eat meat.

00:23:05.000 And you end up with these really nasty situations.

00:23:09.000 And not to mention what goes on with factory farming results in infected meat.

00:23:13.000 And then they put like where they put like ammonium or something in the beef because of the bacteria.

00:23:17.000 It preserves it, yeah.

00:23:18.000 I tell you this, you guys, I have been saying get out of the cities for some time for a variety of reasons.

00:23:24.000 I've been talking about, you know, growing your own food and raising our chickens for a while now.

00:23:28.000 Where we live, we can drive 15, 20 minutes and be at a farm, and there's one farm nearby, it's like self-checkout.

00:23:34.000 It's the craziest thing.

00:23:35.000 I heard you walk in, there's nobody there, and they've got like freezers with the meat freshly harvested from like organic field farm-raised animals, and you walk up, you grab it, you scan it, you pay, you walk out, nobody's even there.

00:23:45.000 I'm like, that's amazing.

00:23:46.000 That's amazing.

00:23:47.000 You can see the animals.

00:23:48.000 We went to one farm, and all the goats ran out, and they were all yelling at us, and we were laughing, and the goats have this nice little area, and they're jumping up and down, and they're dancing, having a good time, and I'm like, they're living it.

00:23:57.000 You know, we farm.

00:23:58.000 It's what we do, but they're having a good time while they're here.

00:24:01.000 No, I agree.

00:24:02.000 It's like, um, the luxury of, like, European agricultural life being out here, but with the value of the United States, like, uh, product lines.

00:24:02.000 I agree.

00:24:13.000 Like, you can order anything and receive anything by delivery, but we live, like, in this awesome farm.

00:24:18.000 And there's a lot of people in this country that don't care about anything.

00:24:19.000 Yeah.

00:24:21.000 And that's what really bothers me.

00:24:22.000 You know because we pulled up the polling data the other day from civics

00:24:25.000 and saw that among Democrat voters they think the economy is doing

00:24:31.000 yeah fairly good really good.

00:24:32.000 And among independents and conservatives they say it's fairly bad.

00:24:35.000 Why.

00:24:36.000 Because those are the people that are in reality.

00:24:37.000 And so I genuinely think like you know you look at people who live in rural

00:24:41.000 areas who tend to be conservative.

00:24:42.000 Like, they raise animals.

00:24:44.000 They take care of their animals.

00:24:45.000 They're not living in cities where it's mechanized pollution and waste and factory farming.

00:24:50.000 To get enough food into those cities is very, very, very difficult.

00:24:53.000 I mean, cities can be great for a lot of reasons.

00:24:54.000 I know some people are like, hey, stop bragging on cities.

00:24:56.000 I get it.

00:24:56.000 Arts and culture can be fun.

00:24:58.000 But the difficulty in bringing in resources into cities, it's crazy when you go to New York and you see how you can't park anywhere.

00:25:06.000 There's delivery trucks on every road all the time because they got to get enough food in for the massively tall skyscrapers.

00:25:10.000 It is not an easy thing to do.

00:25:12.000 So they mechanize the process.

00:25:14.000 They mechanize factory farms.

00:25:15.000 They mass produce as much as they can.

00:25:17.000 I tell you this, dude, when Alex Jones was here, there's another thing he was right about.

00:25:20.000 And he told me, did you know you're eating cloned beef?

00:25:23.000 And I said, no we're not.

00:25:25.000 We're not eating cloned beef.

00:25:26.000 That's crazy.

00:25:27.000 And then I googled it.

00:25:28.000 Yeah.

00:25:29.000 We've been eating cloned beef.

00:25:30.000 They clone the animals.

00:25:32.000 Wow.

00:25:32.000 That is mind-blowing how awful all this stuff is.

00:25:36.000 I am a lifelong vegetarian and very happy about it.

00:25:39.000 You've never eaten meat.

00:25:40.000 No.

00:25:41.000 I mean, look, I got no problem eating meat.

00:25:42.000 I mean, before I was three, I think I did.

00:25:44.000 I saw Bambi and it screwed me all up. 0.97

00:25:47.000 My parents indulged me thinking it was the phase and my stubbornness.

00:25:50.000 I just never ate it again.

00:25:52.000 I'll tell you a story.

00:25:53.000 Are you vegan?

00:25:56.000 Um, not currently.

00:25:57.000 I've went through, you know, big like eight year chunks of being vegan.

00:26:00.000 You've been vocally supportive of animal rights.

00:26:03.000 Do you find that there's a through line with the abortion and animal agriculture?

00:26:09.000 I mean, I think that it's all terrible things that we're closing our eyes to.

00:26:13.000 I think that factory farming is terrible.

00:26:17.000 But I also, I hate the animal rights industry, also.

00:26:20.000 And anybody who's been following me knows this very well.

00:26:23.000 I think my current Twitter name is Anti-PETA.

00:26:28.000 All my homies hate PETA.

00:26:31.000 And I've dedicated my life to now destroying PETA in any way possible.

00:26:35.000 I'm going to be meeting with senators next month and I am working on a massive project, including probably a documentary about the evil stuff that they're doing.

00:26:45.000 But people turn a blind eye to it because like a lot of things, you know, you have like Antifa who claim that they're anti-fascist.

00:26:51.000 That sounds so nice and lovely.

00:26:53.000 We all hate fascists. 0.99

00:26:55.000 Terrible. 0.99

00:26:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:26:56.000 Um, PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, actually kill more animals than a lot of these things that they're fighting.

00:27:03.000 I mean, they got three chimps killed last year.

00:27:05.000 They just seized six chimps from a very lovely sanctuary that I went and saw in person myself.

00:27:12.000 Um, so I think that people are just You know, they like to think that they're doing good.

00:27:19.000 People will donate to PETA without looking into the fact that they've killed 75% of all animals that come into their Virginia animal shelter.

00:27:26.000 And people will be like, oh, we're pro-choice because women have a right to their body and that's great and wonderful. 1.00

00:27:33.000 But they don't think about the cost of any of those things.

00:27:36.000 They don't think about what's really happening, what these organizations are really doing.

00:27:40.000 And I think that it all kind of ties in together in a way that we all just like to look away from terrible things being done.

00:27:47.000 This is the nonprofit industry, you know?

00:27:49.000 I worked for these fundraising organizations and the reason they work is because you're going to people, and this is what I would actually tell people, you are selling hopes and dreams.

00:27:58.000 You are selling absolvement of responsibility.

00:28:01.000 Because when we would go out and we would fundraise for the environment or for any specific advocacy, we'd be like, hey, you're busy.

00:28:08.000 We get it.

00:28:09.000 You can't actively do these things, so let us do it.

00:28:11.000 Why don't you pitch in?

00:28:12.000 It worked for them, too.

00:28:13.000 That's right.

00:28:14.000 And so people would be like, makes sense to me.

00:28:16.000 Here's money.

00:28:17.000 And then when I find out what they do with that money, I got really mad.

00:28:20.000 I ended up jumping organizations like, oh, these people are bad.

00:28:22.000 And then I realized, hey, wait a minute, that group was bad, too.

00:28:25.000 And then I realized, wow.

00:28:26.000 They're like most of them are bad.

00:28:28.000 Yeah.

00:28:28.000 Have you ever seen Poverty, Inc.?

00:28:30.000 No.

00:28:30.000 I would just recommend everybody check that out.

00:28:32.000 It's sort of an expose on the organizations internationally that claim that they're lifting

00:28:37.000 people out of poverty and through foreign aid and charitable works, improving circumstances

00:28:43.000 in underdeveloped countries, but they're more or less in it for themselves.

00:28:48.000 They don't really achieve the results that they claim they're going to.

00:28:51.000 It's a very good documentary.

00:28:52.000 It's been a while since I've seen it, so I wouldn't be able to do it justice in my summary,

00:28:55.000 but I would recommend everybody check it out.

00:28:57.000 I was watching Rogan a little.

00:28:58.000 I watch Rogan pretty much frequently, and he had a guest on.

00:29:01.000 They were talking about the homeless industry in California, and they get, I don't know

00:29:04.000 if it's a billion, is it over a billion dollars a year?

00:29:07.000 But what happens is it goes to the executives of these companies that are supposedly taking care, and they make six digits.

00:29:13.000 $250,000 salary, $300,000 salary, $400,000.

00:29:15.000 So it's so profitable for those people that they don't want to fix the problem.

00:29:19.000 As long as they're working on the problem, they're making bang.

00:29:22.000 This is why Thomas Sowell says, never put activists in charge of solving the problem.

00:29:26.000 They make their money off of a problem being there.

00:29:28.000 Well, Ingrid Newkirk, actually, sorry to keep going back to PETA.

00:29:31.000 I'm completely obsessed with taking them down.

00:29:34.000 Ingrid Newkirk, the president of PETA, they brag all the time, oh, she only takes a $30,000 a year salary. 1.00

00:29:40.000 Look at this great human.

00:29:42.000 She really cares about animals, even though she's completely lobbying for all pit bulls to be eradicated, there to be no pets in human homes, including cats and dogs, and that she has personally killed thousands of dogs with her own hands.

00:29:57.000 But she is worth millions of dollars despite taking only this $30,000 a year salary. 0.95

00:30:02.000 I can explain how this works.

00:30:04.000 I can't speak for PETA specifically.

00:30:06.000 I can speak for other organizations.

00:30:08.000 And I can explain to you.

00:30:11.000 501C3.

00:30:11.000 You guys know what a 501C3 is?

00:30:13.000 Non-profit organization.

00:30:14.000 It's tax-deductible, non-political.

00:30:16.000 And these are the organizations you often hear about, where they say, you know, your donation to us is tax-deductible.

00:30:21.000 In certain circumstances, they will.

00:30:23.000 And then they'll say, our executive director only takes $40,000 a year because they're good and noble.

00:30:30.000 What they don't tell you is that they operate a 501c4, another kind of non-profit.

00:30:35.000 501c4 is also, I believe, that's the designation for SuperPACs as well.

00:30:40.000 They don't need to disclose their donations, it's not tax deductible, and that's where they pay the big bucks.

00:30:45.000 So what'll happen is...

00:30:46.000 You'll have two non-profits, a 501c3 and a 501c4.

00:30:49.000 The 501c3 does all the press and announces our executive director gets paid nothing.

00:30:53.000 And what they don't tell you, because they don't have to, is that the director also gets paid another couple hundred thousand dollars out of the pocket of the 501c4.

00:30:59.000 And when you make a donation, often, you don't read the fine print, and you don't realize you're actually donating to the 501c4.

00:31:06.000 And then what happens is, some of these organizations will take all the money in the 501c4, and they'll tell you like, oh, you know what, because we do political work, we're not tax-deductible.

00:31:14.000 And then what happens is, when they make $100 million into their 501c4, they give only but $5 million to the 501c3, then they come back to you and say, Last year we only brought in $5 million.

00:31:27.000 And our executive director only makes $30,000 a year.

00:31:30.000 I did not know that.

00:31:31.000 That's incredible.

00:31:32.000 That's money laundering.

00:31:34.000 It's legal.

00:31:35.000 There are non-profits that are brilliant at what they do.

00:31:38.000 They'll organize like 10 different non-profits and there'll be like 9 people and they'll rotate the board of directors of each non-profit and they all circulate funding.

00:31:47.000 It's amazing.

00:31:49.000 Yeah, what they're doing is pretty impressive too.

00:31:52.000 They're going around right now and they're just trying to set precedents for future cases.

00:31:56.000 So they're going to roadside zoos, they're going to small farms, they're going to all these different places where people have exotic animals.

00:32:04.000 And whether they're cared for well or not, They're going in there, they're suing them, they're filing ESA lawsuits against them, claiming that they have standing to seize these animals.

00:32:15.000 The judges are siding with them.

00:32:17.000 But they're doing it to people who don't have the money to fight back because these organizations are huge and they're spending millions of dollars.

00:32:23.000 And so they're setting all these precedents now so that they can go after the bigger people later.

00:32:29.000 John Pierce, who you guys have had on from the NCLU, has a whole bunch of clients.

00:32:32.000 He took on my friend Tanya, who had her chimps taken from her by PETA last month.

00:32:37.000 And now all these people who have been victims of PETA are coming out of the woodwork, and he's investigating their cases.

00:32:44.000 And it looks like people are going to start fighting back, finally, because they're teaming up together.

00:32:49.000 And I am very excited for it, because I am, like, furious about them.

00:32:54.000 I want to ask you guys a question, but first I'll tell you a little story.

00:32:58.000 I was reading this in, like, I can't remember what it was.

00:33:00.000 It was an old, timey, like, law precedence book.

00:33:03.000 It was probably, like, one of those magazines you read in the bathroom or something.

00:33:06.000 And it said that there was an old case where, like, two farmers had land that butted up against each other.

00:33:10.000 And one, you know, Farmer A, his dog, kept going onto the Farmer B's land.

00:33:16.000 And Farmer B kept getting mad, saying, get your dog off my property!

00:33:18.000 And the guy was like, I'm sorry, you know, get over here, you know, Fido.

00:33:21.000 And then one day, Farmer B took out his gun and shot the dog and killed it.

00:33:25.000 And then Farmer A was like, you killed my dog, how dare you?

00:33:28.000 And the court said, you know, property loss.

00:33:31.000 Your dog shouldn't have gone onto his property, so he owes you the damages for the lost property.

00:33:34.000 And I remember reading that being like, my dog is not property.

00:33:38.000 My dog is a friend.

00:33:39.000 And if you do anything to my friends, which brings me to the question.

00:33:44.000 If someone came to your home and took your dog and then killed it for no reason, what would you do?

00:33:52.000 I can't say what I would do or the feds will knock on my door.

00:33:55.000 Hold on, are we talking about John Wick here?

00:33:58.000 Yeah.

00:33:59.000 Well, let's just say they made a movie about it, which ended up becoming, they're going on movie four now, because the dude wanted to be left alone and some dudes killed his dog, and John Wick, what an awesome movie.

00:34:10.000 I got a story here, it's from a few years ago, from The Guardian.

00:34:13.000 PETA says, sorry for taking girls' pet chihuahua and putting it down. 1.00

00:34:18.000 Animal Rights Group pays family $49,000 to set a lawsuit after it seized a dog named Maya, which belonged to a nine-year-old.

00:34:25.000 They say, Wilbur Zarate from Virginia had sued the group for taking his daughter's chihuahua from a mobile home park on the state's eastern shore and euthanizing it before the end of the required five-day grace period.

00:34:35.000 Zarate alleged PETA operate under a broad policy of euthanizing animals, including healthy ones, because it considers pet ownership to be a form of involuntary bondage.

00:34:43.000 That's right, so you just kill the animal, that makes sense.

00:34:46.000 Wow.

00:34:47.000 PETA denied the allegation and maintained the incident was a terrible mistake.

00:34:50.000 I'm sorry.

00:34:51.000 I've seen a ton of videos on Reddit.

00:34:53.000 There was one surveillance footage where you see someone actually run onto the porch and grab an animal.

00:34:57.000 Have you seen that one?

00:34:57.000 Yeah.

00:34:58.000 That's crazy.

00:34:58.000 Have you seen the photos of PETA?

00:35:02.000 They used to dump the carcasses of dogs into Walmart dumpsters and stuff.

00:35:07.000 Huffington Post actually did an incredible expose.

00:35:09.000 I hate praising the Huffington Post, but it was incredible.

00:35:15.000 Because they were just killing all these dogs and they had nowhere to put them, so they were throwing them in dumpsters.

00:35:19.000 And the state inspector for Virginia actually did a report being like, how are you taking in this many dogs when you don't have any place to put them?

00:35:28.000 How is this a shelter?

00:35:30.000 And they wanted to shut it down, but PETA used their big lobbying money to keep running, and they killed more dogs last year than they did the year before that.

00:35:39.000 You probably know the answer, but Ian, Seamus, feel free to chime in.

00:35:41.000 And for those listening at home, feel free to throw in your Super Chats with your guesses in today's trivia question.

00:35:47.000 How many dogs does PETA kill every year? 20,000.

00:35:52.000 You know what's funny?

00:35:53.000 I have no idea what it is, but I was also going to guess 20,000.

00:35:56.000 Well, that is a full... that is 10 times too many.

00:35:59.000 It's 2,000 dogs and cats.

00:36:00.000 Well, they don't sound that bad now, Tim.

00:36:02.000 That actually is only the numbers for their Virginia shelter where they kill animals.

00:36:08.000 They used a whole bunch of their donations.

00:36:10.000 Instead of throwing adoption events, they used them to buy giant freezers for carcasses.

00:36:14.000 Hope you all PETA donors know that.

00:36:17.000 But they actually travel to Mexico as well and they go down there and euthanize all the street dogs and those numbers are not counted.

00:36:24.000 Really?

00:36:24.000 They also take, they seize animals from all these little roadside zoos and sanctuaries.

00:36:29.000 Those numbers are not counted.

00:36:31.000 There's currently a lion missing.

00:36:32.000 They seized a lion from a rescue.

00:36:35.000 Wait, there's a lion missing?

00:36:37.000 Let me tell you guys the story.

00:36:40.000 So there's a sanctuary rescue in Maryland.

00:36:44.000 The guy takes like exotic pets that have been thrown away that people can't care for anymore.

00:36:47.000 Is this Tiger King?

00:36:49.000 No, he was not on Tiger King.

00:36:55.000 Actually, the NCLU is going to be representing some people from Tiger King, and that's a whole interesting other story that I'll get into one day.

00:37:01.000 But there's this place, and he takes, like, exotic throwaway pets.

00:37:05.000 You know, people go get a tiger or a monkey and then they can't care for it.

00:37:09.000 This guy takes them.

00:37:11.000 So he had two tigers and a lion and PETA filed a lawsuit against them saying he was violating the ESA because the lion liked him too much.

00:37:22.000 They said that it was too bonded to the caretaker and therefore it was unnatural.

00:37:27.000 And the court sided with them, sent the lion and the two tigers to a shelter, I mean a sanctuary in Colorado.

00:37:34.000 And now, he went to go visit them in, I believe, February of last year.

00:37:38.000 I could be wrong.

00:37:39.000 And he said that they looked terrible.

00:37:41.000 Like, they were in great shape when he had them.

00:37:42.000 Now they look terrible.

00:37:44.000 And now, nobody has seen them since.

00:37:47.000 And so, I actually called the sanctuary, asking if I could get proof of life.

00:37:51.000 Because nobody has seen them.

00:37:53.000 And this place is open to the public.

00:37:54.000 They let people take public tours.

00:37:57.000 Which means it's basically the same thing he was doing.

00:38:00.000 but um they wouldn't they told me there's no recent photos but that they're supposedly alive um and so now he's he's trying to get proof of life and nobody will give it to him so i mean pita the things that i've learned in the last couple weeks have been keeping me up at night about what this organization does oh i'm sure yeah i i'm i'm definitely here for the pita bashing but also at the same time but also at the same time i think When we're treating human beings the way that we treat them, I just don't think there's any hope for animals to be treated that way.

00:38:32.000 You best be believing in nightmare dystopias, Seamus.

00:38:34.000 Because you're living in one.

00:38:35.000 It's true.

00:38:37.000 You better believe in science fiction dystopia stories.

00:38:40.000 You're in one.

00:38:41.000 Is it that PETA is looking for animals that they think are in, like, rough situations, and then they take them, but then they can't support them, so they execute them?

00:38:49.000 Well, what they claim, so they don't believe that there should be any animals in human care.

00:38:55.000 There was a lawsuit that they were involved in where they said that no elephants should be transported to this zoo.

00:39:01.000 They said that elephants would be better dead than in zoos and being fed by humans.

00:39:05.000 That was where the whole better dead than fed thing came from.

00:39:08.000 But they don't believe anybody should have pets.

00:39:11.000 They don't believe you should have a cat.

00:39:12.000 They don't even think you should have a goldfish.

00:39:14.000 And so what they're doing is they're going around trying to shut down all these smaller sanctuaries who don't agree to play by their rules, don't agree to work with them.

00:39:23.000 And they're taking them and they're sending them to these other sanctuaries through our courts.

00:39:27.000 It's essentially civil asset forfeiture, but through a private organization.

00:39:31.000 And it's a loophole in the ESA, which shouldn't exist, the exotics. 1.00

00:39:37.000 Endangered Species Act.

00:39:39.000 And they're sending them off to these places, but they're not considering the welfare of the animals.

00:39:45.000 For example, with Tanya Haddix's case, they just went and seized chimps from her in St. 0.99

00:39:50.000 Louis, or near St.

00:39:51.000 Louis.

00:39:53.000 These chimps were bonded.

00:39:55.000 They were a troop.

00:39:56.000 They were in a huge enclosure that was bigger than my house.

00:39:58.000 It was several stories tall.

00:40:00.000 It was beautiful.

00:40:02.000 But they claim that they know better.

00:40:04.000 And so last year they took three chimps from a sanctuary, put in a different sanctuary called Project Chimps, and Project Chimps got them killed because they put them in with random chimps that they didn't know.

00:40:17.000 These chimps were older.

00:40:18.000 They were retired from research and from entertainment.

00:40:22.000 They didn't have the alpha ability to defend themselves.

00:40:26.000 So they got killed, and then 22 whistleblowers came out against Project Chimp and alleged abuse, mistreatment, filthy conditions, all kinds of stuff.

00:40:36.000 And PETA didn't disavow them the way that they do for all these little sanctuaries that are operating all over the country.

00:40:42.000 Instead, they put out a statement being like, this is terrible, and continued working with them.

00:40:47.000 So when they come in and they seize these animals, they're putting them in great danger.

00:40:53.000 And it's... Can I?

00:40:55.000 Yeah.

00:40:56.000 Can I?

00:40:56.000 Sorry.

00:40:57.000 I want to highlight a specific person, though.

00:40:59.000 Her name is Mary Beth Sweetland.

00:41:01.000 You know who that is.

00:41:01.000 Oh.

00:41:02.000 Vaguely.

00:41:03.000 She is, apparently, according to at least one website called... Actually, let me just show it.

00:41:09.000 This is humanewatch.org.

00:41:12.000 Mary Beth Sweetland is best known as the PETA executive who vigorously campaigned against medical research with animals, even though she is a diabetic whose health relies on injecting herself with insulin that has been tested on animals.

00:41:23.000 Now, over at PETA, she does say that she's on, what is this called?

00:41:28.000 Humulin, a synthetically produced insulin that's much more appropriate for the human body.

00:41:33.000 Okay, I can respect that.

00:41:34.000 That's from 2010, they say.

00:41:35.000 But I will also mention that NewsGuard rates PETA as caution.

00:41:39.000 The website fails to adhere to several basic journalistic standards.

00:41:44.000 I know that this is... They call it fake news.

00:41:47.000 They are fake news. 1.00

00:41:48.000 Today I was fighting with the VP of PETA on Twitter because that idiot made her way into my mentions. 1.00

00:41:55.000 And she put up, to take a dig at me because I've been defending Tanya so hard, she put up a press release about what the chimps infest us. 0.97

00:42:03.000 And it was a photo of one of the cages indoors that they use for like when they need to tranquilize them or when they need to go in to clean the cage.

00:42:11.000 It's like a temporary enclosure.

00:42:13.000 And they didn't show any of the rest of the property.

00:42:15.000 They blamed her for things that happened 70 years ago when she's only been in charge of the chimps since 2017.

00:42:22.000 Um, they put up this like wild, I mean, it was impressive how fake news it was. 0.98

00:42:27.000 I was like, holy crap. 0.95

00:42:29.000 Like if I read this, I would be outraged. 0.95

00:42:31.000 I would be really fascinated to know how these animal rights activists who are against experimenting on animals for the benefit of humanity feel about the kind of research we were discussing earlier with unborn children.

00:42:42.000 Oh, you know, PETA wouldn't care. 1.00

00:42:43.000 I really doubt they'd care at all.

00:42:43.000 Yeah.

00:42:45.000 No, of course not.

00:42:46.000 They might care about the rats.

00:42:48.000 Oh my god, you're so right.

00:42:50.000 That is horrible.

00:42:52.000 You're so right.

00:42:54.000 Humans are animals.

00:42:56.000 I mean, ethical treatment of animals.

00:42:58.000 Humans are animals.

00:42:59.000 That was horrifyingly dark, but you were right.

00:43:02.000 We're definitely smart animals.

00:43:05.000 Scientifically, we're the smartest animal.

00:43:07.000 But here's a question for everyone here.

00:43:08.000 Do you believe there's a fundamental difference between humans and animals?

00:43:11.000 No.

00:43:11.000 Yes.

00:43:12.000 Humans are animals.

00:43:12.000 Absolutely.

00:43:13.000 I think absolutely.

00:43:14.000 Yeah, but I also deeply care about animals.

00:43:17.000 For sure, for sure.

00:43:17.000 You can still care about animals, but agree that humans are superior.

00:43:21.000 I once saw a very important film that talked greatly about this.

00:43:26.000 It was called All Dogs Go to Heaven.

00:43:27.000 Yes!

00:43:29.000 It's theologically inaccurate, I might point out.

00:43:32.000 No!

00:43:32.000 No.

00:43:33.000 Great movie, though.

00:43:34.000 They do go to heaven.

00:43:36.000 I won't hear otherwise.

00:43:37.000 Of course they do!

00:43:38.000 What's the loophole?

00:43:39.000 Do you know what that loophole in the ESA is that's letting PETA go in and... So they're letting them claim standing.

00:43:47.000 Because you can't just go in and be like, I oppose war, so I'm gonna sue Lockheed Martin and take all the bombs and decide what to do with them.

00:43:55.000 Which was my fiancé's great analogy here.

00:43:59.000 But you can't... That will be based.

00:44:00.000 You can't do that.

00:44:03.000 But with the ESA, you can, because the judges are claiming the Endangered Species Act.

00:44:09.000 So the judges are claiming that because PETA cares about animals, they have standing in these cases.

00:44:13.000 What if we had like an Endangered Humans Act that could allow you to sue people for bombing people in parts of the world where they're killing civilians routinely, or like bombing civilians, farms and fishing boats, or aiding governments that are bombing farms and fishing boats.

00:44:25.000 The issue is humans are far from endangered.

00:44:27.000 Actually, I did that back. I did that back. Humans are actually on a really dangerous course.

00:44:27.000 That's all.

00:44:32.000 Yeah, so we may have there may be lots of people but boy I tell you this if we saw like a bunch of chimps and one 1.00

00:44:39.000 had an RPG we'd be like they're in danger You know what I mean? We got noobs, man.

00:44:43.000 Yeah, they're PETA is like taking people's homes and stuff now, though, and it's gotten to the point where it's insane.

00:44:53.000 There's this guy, Tim Stark.

00:44:54.000 A lot of you probably know him from Tiger King.

00:44:57.000 I was talking to him the other day.

00:44:58.000 They're taking his home because they not only went and took all his animals, but then they sued for legal fees, which he has to recoup, which I believe they were awarded $750,000.

00:45:09.000 So not only are they getting these animals, they're getting almost a million dollars.

00:45:15.000 It's just crazy to me that this is even allowed.

00:45:19.000 But I was talking to him and he made a great point that under the Endangered Species Act, they count tigers because in the wild they're endangered.

00:45:27.000 And so the Endangered Species Act is supposed to apply to wild animals.

00:45:31.000 If you count all the tigers that are in captivity in the United States, because the ESA is being

00:45:37.000 applied to them, they're not considered endangered anymore because there's like 10,000 tigers

00:45:42.000 in captivity or something.

00:45:45.000 And so they're just using all these weird, bizarre loopholes to create precedent for

00:45:49.000 future cases so that they can go after more people, bigger people.

00:45:53.000 It's time for people of good will to stand up, man.

00:45:59.000 We need people to become more organized and more active.

00:46:03.000 I guess the issue is that there's too many... Maybe the fault lies with the average working American who is... I wouldn't say comfortable, in a sense.

00:46:11.000 I mean, you're always striving and struggling in some respect, but pulled out of the fight in general.

00:46:16.000 I don't think average Americans need to be involved in a battle against Pete or anything like that.

00:46:20.000 I just mean, like, all of this...

00:46:22.000 Well, sure, sure.

00:46:23.000 I just, I see all this bad stuff that's happening, whether it be the stuff we normally rag about with, you know, with critical race, applied principles, and now with, you know, what's going on with these experiments.

00:46:33.000 And I'm like, man, if people were just all calm, reasonable, mature, but active and voiced their opinions, this stuff would never happen.

00:46:42.000 You can't voice your opinions.

00:46:43.000 Half the things that people want to say about, like, The way that you would want to respond to people grafting dead baby parts onto a rat would get you banned on any social media platform.

00:46:55.000 Even discussing it, even talking about that happening.

00:46:57.000 Not only... It's not even just about social media platforms.

00:47:00.000 If you bring that up in front of people, they're gonna look at you like you're crazy.

00:47:03.000 Imagine if everyone did.

00:47:05.000 Yeah, they should.

00:47:06.000 The fact that they're not as an outrage, the fact that that happened, and also the fact that the story broke a while ago, basically no one talked about it at the time, and no one really knows about it anymore now, is insane.

00:47:16.000 Didn't the U.S.

00:47:17.000 order, like, photos to be taken as much as possible after World War II?

00:47:21.000 Yes, I remember that.

00:47:22.000 There you go.

00:47:23.000 And it was a good thing.

00:47:25.000 Now people know exactly what was going on and what we vowed to never let happen again.

00:47:29.000 So, when you see any of these stories, as horrible as they are, How do we, how do we tolerate any of this?

00:47:35.000 It's, it made me think of North Korea, Yeonmi Park, or struggling so de- like in North Korea everyone's starving.

00:47:41.000 So they don't have time to think about anything other than where's my food, I need to get food, and all they do- And we're not starving and all we think about is food.

00:47:49.000 and when we're gonna get our next meal, and how we can sit on the couch and entertain

00:47:53.000 ourselves in front of the television or with our smartphone.

00:47:55.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.

00:47:56.000 You know, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong and all these horrific dictators historically

00:48:01.000 did everything they could to pull people away from God with violence.

00:48:04.000 It turns out all you really needed to do was develop your economy enough for nice gadgets

00:48:07.000 to be put in everyone's hands, and they would just forget about him.

00:48:11.000 And then they would let anyone treat anyone else any kind of way, and no one would stand

00:48:14.000 up for the truth because no one would have developed enough virtue to do anything that

00:48:17.000 was even remotely difficult or compromised their social standing.

00:48:20.000 Remember wall-mounted phones?

00:48:23.000 Yes.

00:48:24.000 I was watching a video on Reddit and it was like high def 1993 in New York.

00:48:24.000 Yeah.

00:48:29.000 And I was like, oh, you, you, you poor fools. 1.00

00:48:31.000 You have no, no idea what lies ahead. 0.95

00:48:33.000 I think the internet for all of its wonders, there's a lot of negatives to it because for, you know, for every action, there's an equal and opposite and the internet's an amazing stuff.

00:48:39.000 Here we are, you know, talking to you, but it's like you said, Seamus, it's also, it's, it's, man, it's, it plugged people into this machine where they've gone nuts.

00:48:49.000 When, when, here's what scares me.

00:48:51.000 When a regular person of strong mental fortitude sees dumb stuff on the internet, they are discerning and they can reject or say, you know, I don't trust this or I'll research or I'll look into it more. 0.99

00:49:02.000 But when stupid people see it, they just plug right in and say, you got it. 0.99

00:49:07.000 And they follow along with whatever nightmarish trend happens. 1.00

00:49:11.000 And that's the crazy thing, you know, I see a lot of people tweeting like, I wonder how it went, how did people let it get to that point?

00:49:16.000 And, you know, throughout history, it's not, I'm not talking about World War II, because it's over, it's cited so often, it's, you know, Godwin's Law.

00:49:23.000 But you think about any dictatorial uprising, how did people let that happen?

00:49:27.000 We had a guy in here who was fighting against Castro, when he was a young man.

00:49:31.000 Caster took over and it was like it was a revolution and everyone was cheering for Ben slowly and slowly and slowly Caster kept doing more and more script things until he controlled everything and it's like how did people let that happen?

00:49:41.000 Because it's one small thing at a time.

00:49:43.000 I'm not gonna stand up and I'm not gonna say anything that might upset the people around me over this small issue and then it just piles on and piles on and piles on and before you know it it's far too late to do anything.

00:49:55.000 People don't have moral conviction.

00:49:56.000 Conviction your leaders is so dangerous having faith in other blind faith for sure. Yeah, it's not that obviously

00:50:02.000 I want to have faith in you you guys like we're talking I believe in you as a human

00:50:05.000 I have faith that you're gonna do what you say you're gonna do but

00:50:07.000 there's like a level up there's like a a diminishing return to that like you got a

00:50:13.000 believing that they're gonna do what they tell you whoever they are whether it's you or you like

00:50:18.000 like there's it's dangerous that's dangerous and if you if you authorize

00:50:21.000 some sort of massive political power and you just believe they're gonna do what

00:50:24.000 they say I don't like it well I don't think it's so much blind trust in

00:50:28.000 leadership as much as it is not voicing your opposition when you clearly don't

00:50:32.000 trust them I think a lot of people don't trust people in power and I think that

00:50:36.000 they know that there are very screwed up things happening in the world such as

00:50:40.000 the things we were discussing earlier with human experiments being done on

00:50:43.000 innocent faultless children But they just don't say anything.

00:50:47.000 Because it's uncomfortable.

00:50:48.000 Because it's unpopular.

00:50:51.000 You're right, and I think we can also lighten the mood a little bit by giving a good example of bad leadership and what happens when you have a population that just blindly marches behind blind leadership and refuses to accept it.

00:51:04.000 We have a series of stories, actually.

00:51:06.000 The first of which is that Ron DeSantis said to Joe Biden, I don't want to hear a blip out of you until you secure the border, because he accused Joe Biden of importing the virus.

00:51:16.000 What is it, like 7,000 7,000 in McAllen, Texas tested positive, I believe.

00:51:21.000 And Joe Biden.

00:51:22.000 This is the craziest thing. 0.98

00:51:22.000 Migrants. 0.98

00:51:23.000 Biden's like, we're going to require all foreign visitors to be vaccinated.

00:51:26.000 But illegal immigrants, it's optional. 1.00

00:51:29.000 I'm not kidding.

00:51:29.000 Literally, they're like, we'll offer it to you if you want it.

00:51:31.000 But 1.2 million people.

00:51:33.000 So Joe Biden responds saying, governor who?

00:51:38.000 And Ron DeSantis had the best comeback.

00:51:42.000 Oh, he forgot who I am, too?

00:51:43.000 That's what I would have hit him with.

00:51:45.000 He said, what else has he forgotten?

00:51:50.000 I remember Obama making fun of Trump this way.

00:51:54.000 Just this dismissive, like, that guy's nobody.

00:51:57.000 He's like, fortunately, I will be remembered as a president.

00:52:01.000 You remember that?

00:52:01.000 And then he drops his phone.

00:52:04.000 I'll be remembered.

00:52:06.000 Yeah, and now there's a really funny article, it was like, it was from the Independent, Ron DeSantis' popularity plummets after Joe Biden says Governor.

00:52:21.000 And I'm like, no it didn't!

00:52:23.000 Where are they getting that?

00:52:24.000 Well, no, no, no.

00:52:25.000 It's a spurious correlation.

00:52:27.000 It's like his approval rating goes down because of COVID in Florida or something.

00:52:31.000 And then Biden says, Governor who?

00:52:32.000 And they spurious correlation.

00:52:34.000 Do you think anyone who likes Ron DeSantis was like, Joe Biden just eviscerated.

00:52:41.000 This is just like when Trump told Hillary she'd be in jail.

00:52:45.000 I just can't believe that Biden Like, especially when this is someone who actually probably did forget who he was.

00:52:52.000 Biden wasn't even trying to slam him.

00:52:53.000 He's a Ryan Besambles, uh, guy.

00:52:57.000 He got a hairy leg.

00:53:01.000 Corn pop! 0.86

00:53:02.000 Check this out, check this out, check this out from TimCast.com.

00:53:05.000 Biden says 350 million Americans have been vaccinated, more than U.S.

00:53:09.000 population.

00:53:10.000 What I love the most about- I thought we were up to 370.

00:53:13.000 I thought we went from 330 to 370.

00:53:14.000 You know what I really love about TimCast.com is, uh, You know, we're doing our best, not always.

00:53:19.000 But this title is perfect.

00:53:21.000 We don't snark.

00:53:22.000 We're not making fun of them.

00:53:23.000 We're literally just stating the fact.

00:53:25.000 Biden says 350 million Americans have been vaccinated, more than US population.

00:53:31.000 We don't need to explain anything else.

00:53:33.000 The news, it's right there.

00:53:36.000 It speaks for itself.

00:53:38.000 Our, uh, non-partisan factual base.

00:53:41.000 I was gonna say, our president ain't there, dude.

00:53:43.000 No, he's really not.

00:53:45.000 At least we're laughing, huh?

00:53:46.000 Yeah, man, that's one lighter story.

00:53:48.000 Gallows humor.

00:53:49.000 Yeah.

00:53:49.000 Well, but what do we do when you have- He's also, like, a genuinely evil human being, to point that out.

00:53:54.000 Definitely a horrible evil person. 0.59

00:53:55.000 You guys should read Biden, Inc. 0.75

00:53:57.000 from Politico, where they're like, conveniently, when Joe Biden was put in charge of Iraq, his brother got all the contracts for building things there.

00:54:03.000 Hold on, that's an unverified conspiracy theory, Toby.

00:54:05.000 From politico.com.

00:54:06.000 It's an unverified conspiracy website.

00:54:08.000 Oh yeah, I love, I love, they are.

00:54:10.000 I mean, Politico reported that Ukrainians were scrambling after they had tried to help Hillary Clinton in the election.

00:54:18.000 And, you know, interfering.

00:54:19.000 And a court ruled as such.

00:54:21.000 And then later Politico reported, never happened!

00:54:23.000 There was no interference!

00:54:25.000 And I'm like, Politico, retract your story!

00:54:26.000 But they would, they had both simultaneously running.

00:54:29.000 It was, it was, it was beautiful.

00:54:30.000 It was a beautiful paradox of fake news.

00:54:32.000 Yeah, Politico's funny.

00:54:33.000 Earlier I was reading an article on the Biden administration repealing the Trump-era rules against federal funding going towards research done on unborn children who were killed in abortion.

00:54:43.000 And the article described the Trump regulations as very strict.

00:54:47.000 These very strict Trump-era regulations are being unwinded by Joe Biden!

00:54:52.000 Like, okay. 1.00

00:54:53.000 He should just let him kill a little bit of babies. 1.00

00:54:56.000 You gotta let people kill him a little. 1.00

00:54:58.000 We're never going to do human experimentation! 0.99

00:55:01.000 Never?

00:55:01.000 That's kind of strict.

00:55:03.000 Is it that people, the theory, the idea is that people are going to get abortions, so you may as well use... That's what we were saying, basically.

00:55:12.000 They're like, oh, look at all the fetal tissue.

00:55:15.000 That one's at 42 weeks.

00:55:17.000 I mean, it's a living baby.

00:55:19.000 Remember that South Park episode where Christopher Reeves was... So in the episode Christopher Reeves is in a wheelchair and then he takes a baby and he cracks it open and then he sucks it dry and then he stands up from his wheelchair.

00:55:34.000 The South Park guys are brilliantly funny.

00:55:37.000 The issue was though they were mocking the idea as if it didn't happen.

00:55:41.000 Look, obviously, Christopher Reeves never did that.

00:55:44.000 There's nobody who's literally taking the babies and cracking them open.

00:55:47.000 But it's an analogy, I suppose?

00:55:50.000 I guess they were exaggerating for humor's sake, but we see these stories since 2015.

00:55:55.000 Well, and also, I mean, you can do stem cell research without killing unborn children.

00:56:00.000 There are, I mean, the umbilical cord is rich in stem cells.

00:56:03.000 There are also stem cells that they've been able to extract from adults, and they tend to be more effective in experiments than the ones that are coming from children they're killing.

00:56:09.000 I'm gonna tell you, man, once we get into the AI era, all sense of human decency is gone.

00:56:15.000 I think we're past that point, man.

00:56:17.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:56:20.000 Here's the thing.

00:56:21.000 We're decent to humans who we're interfacing with, but as soon as someone's out of our space, we don't care. 0.89

00:56:27.000 We're complete sociopaths.

00:56:29.000 A robot is going to treat a human like we would a lab rat.

00:56:33.000 When the AI comes in and you get like an Ultron or whatever.

00:56:36.000 Look at what they do.

00:56:37.000 We talked a lot about China, right?

00:56:39.000 How they just will bulldoze homes because, like, you don't own it anyway.

00:56:42.000 It's a lease.

00:56:43.000 There's no eminent domain there.

00:56:44.000 They just do whatever they want.

00:56:46.000 So we had Jack Posobiec telling us how, like, you know, the Democrats or the U.S.

00:56:50.000 politicians go over there and they're like, you can just basically crush an entire residential neighborhood and build a highway, and they're like, yup.

00:56:55.000 We're not even at that level in the United States, necessarily.

00:56:58.000 We have, like, oh, there's a lawsuit in the Constitution, an eminent domain, the Fifth Amendment, you've gotta pay, you know, et cetera.

00:57:03.000 Yeah, once you get to the AI level, they're gonna be like, the robot's gonna just, in the blink of an eye, be like, we need, you know, 5,000 living adult humans to figure out how X does Y or something.

00:57:17.000 And there will be literal people just completely treated like cabbage garbage.

00:57:21.000 They'll be praying.

00:57:21.000 Do you think we're gonna get to that point with AI, though?

00:57:23.000 Because Moore's Law has been slowing down.

00:57:26.000 Read which one?

00:57:26.000 The Artilect War by Hugo de Garis.

00:57:29.000 It's my favorite book in the whole world.

00:57:30.000 Isn't that like a really hard to get book or something?

00:57:31.000 Yeah, it's like $1,000 on Amazon.

00:57:34.000 I will let you borrow my copy if you don't.

00:57:37.000 That's like a third the price of a textbook.

00:57:40.000 Yeah, it's a lot.

00:57:41.000 But it's a really interesting book.

00:57:44.000 This guy actually is pro-robot takeover, but he does present both sides very well.

00:57:52.000 And they call it the Artilect War, where it'll be like... Pro-robot takeover.

00:57:57.000 So do you guys really believe AI is going to get to that point?

00:58:00.000 Oh yeah, definitely.

00:58:00.000 Yeah, probably.

00:58:01.000 But Moore's Law has been slowing down.

00:58:02.000 For all you know.

00:58:03.000 No, it hasn't, no.

00:58:04.000 They've started doubling up cores.

00:58:06.000 Yeah, they've started doubling up cores.

00:58:08.000 What cores have been?

00:58:09.000 Cores, cores.

00:58:10.000 They started doubling up cores and processors.

00:58:12.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

00:58:13.000 64 cores, is that available right now?

00:58:15.000 Soon.

00:58:16.000 So once once we hit the like Moore's law was like, oh, it's you know, every two years it doubles.

00:58:20.000 And then they're like, Oh, no, the it's it, you know, everything's getting too small and the electrons are popping in and out.

00:58:20.000 Yeah.

00:58:25.000 They just started adding up more cores.

00:58:26.000 They're also moving away from using electricity and in shifting the light in circuitry.

00:58:32.000 Or quantum computing.

00:58:34.000 Also, this assumes that civil society exists long enough for AI to be developed.

00:58:38.000 They're going to be paying women to get pregnant and just be there and giving birth over and over and over. 1.00

00:58:43.000 That'll be their job.

00:58:44.000 I don't think.

00:58:45.000 If there's an AI in charge, it will be harvesting humans.

00:58:48.000 No, we've talked about this before.

00:58:49.000 Humans are already hurt.

00:58:51.000 So there will be untold cruelty because cruelty doesn't exist in the mind of the machine trying to find the most efficient end.

00:58:56.000 But a lot of what would happen, this is nightmarish, so first we talked about algorithmic psychosis on this channel quite a bit.

00:59:02.000 How people go on social media and then just get fed a rotating cycle of insane content which makes them go insane over a certain amount of time.

00:59:10.000 Yeah.

00:59:10.000 What people don't realize, you really got to look at how AIs develop things.

00:59:13.000 They don't do exactly what you intend them to.

00:59:15.000 YouTube made an...

00:59:16.000 So, so, but, but to be fair, AI and algorithms are fairly different, but just

00:59:21.000 for a rudimentary argument, YouTube says here are the parameters by which we want

00:59:25.000 this system to feed content to people.

00:59:27.000 And what they were hoping for was Game of Thrones, longer form

00:59:30.000 content with high engagement.

00:59:32.000 What do they get?

00:59:32.000 They got the Incredible Hulk and Hitler doing Tai Chi and Hitler's head was on a bikini body and it's singing in nursery rhymes.

00:59:38.000 Okay, but to be fair I wouldn't that's don't belittle that compared to the Avengers.

00:59:42.000 All right, bro Like that's really elitist of you to say one is better than the other.

00:59:45.000 Oh Oh, for sure.

00:59:46.000 But here's what I'm saying.

00:59:46.000 It was definitely awesome content.

00:59:47.000 Apply that principle to an algorithmically run society in any capacity or an AI that is exponentially developing.

00:59:55.000 What'll happen is we'll have nothing but corn.

00:59:59.000 And then one day, all of a sudden, everything in the supermarket is just corn.

01:00:02.000 And you're like, where's the milk?

01:00:04.000 Just corn replaces everything because the AI was like, corn's faster and easier to make.

01:00:08.000 And if we make more of it, it's easier to make more at one time.

01:00:11.000 And then all of a sudden, you have no resource.

01:00:12.000 Everyone starves.

01:00:12.000 Well, I mean, so the problem with AI, theoretically, would be the same problem that we have with anything humans construct, whether it's an algorithm, whether it's public policy.

01:00:20.000 There's the law of unintended consequences.

01:00:23.000 Anytime humans try to set up a structure to get a certain kind of behavior from a person or group of people, they end up with something other than what they were shooting for.

01:00:31.000 Sometimes it's successful, but I'm not sure if you've heard of the Cobra Effect, or if I've ever talked about this on the show.

01:00:35.000 So, there was, I can't even remember the country.

01:00:37.000 I actually, I believe this was in British-occupied India.

01:00:42.000 There were cobra infestations and so what they did was they said we will pay people for every cobra tail that they bring us because then they'll be out there killing cobras, they have an economic incentive to do so, they'll bring the carcasses to us, we'll give them money.

01:00:54.000 What happened was people started finding male and female cobras and starting breeding operations so they could kill the cobras, bring them to the British government and get money and so the population of cobras increased.

01:01:07.000 There's a story I was reading on Reddit, and they said that they programmed an AI to play Tetris, hoping to see highest level play.

01:01:15.000 Like, level 100, it's going so fast you can't even see the screen!

01:01:18.000 You know what the AI did?

01:01:19.000 Just quit, got bored, and started playing Mario.

01:01:22.000 The goal was to generate an AI that could play Tetris for as long as possible.

01:01:29.000 So what do you think it did?

01:01:30.000 Pause the game.

01:01:31.000 Yes.

01:01:31.000 Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.

01:01:33.000 It just paused the game.

01:01:34.000 Path of least resistance.

01:01:35.000 That's right.

01:01:36.000 And so we're thinking it's going to play and then all of a sudden it pauses and we're like, wait, what?

01:01:40.000 Oh man, gotta change that parameter.

01:01:41.000 So I'll tell you this.

01:01:42.000 I think we've talked about the AI future where I've said like, you know, you'll wake up and your phone will vibrate and it'll be like free credit opportunity.

01:01:50.000 And it'll say, walk outside and yell.

01:01:53.000 And then you'll be like, okay, you'll go outside and you'll yell, and then it'll go, accomplished, ba-ding!

01:01:57.000 And then it'll give you credits.

01:01:58.000 And then there'll be another guy walking down the street, and he'll be like, turn left here, and, you know, pick up this strange object from this man.

01:02:05.000 And you'll walk by, and you'll see the guy, and there's his picture, and he'll hand you a weird black orb, and you'll go, okay!

01:02:10.000 And then it'll say, now walk three feet and hand it to the woman. 1.00

01:02:12.000 And you do, ba-ding!

01:02:13.000 You get credits.

01:02:14.000 Because what's happening is, wherever you are and you're walking, the AI has found a method of delivering that object that it needs to a certain area faster than you just going and doing it.

01:02:23.000 So you're getting these random instructions you don't quite understand.

01:02:27.000 The scary thing is, eventually someone's going to get one, and it's going to be like, turn left here, and they're going to fall off a cliff.

01:02:32.000 And then they're going to go into the ground, and holding the orb, and then someone walks up and picks up the orb from the carcass and walks away.

01:02:37.000 Because the AI doesn't value you as an individual.

01:02:40.000 Yeah.

01:02:41.000 AI future, man.

01:02:42.000 What if they code in?

01:02:43.000 What if they put, if going to have someone walk off building, then stop?

01:02:46.000 Remember when Apple Maps came out?

01:02:48.000 Some lady drove into a lake, because apparently she was- Oh my gosh, that's right! 1.00

01:02:53.000 She was driving- That's a throwback. 0.90

01:02:54.000 She was driving on the road, and it said turn left here, and she went, okay!

01:02:58.000 It's like that episode of The Office.

01:03:00.000 Remember that?

01:03:01.000 No.

01:03:01.000 When Michael drives into the lake, I think the GPS tells him to.

01:03:04.000 That's probably where they got it from.

01:03:06.000 There was one lady who drove like 500 miles into the desert because it told her to turn right here, and she did.

01:03:12.000 And then she ran out of gas.

01:03:14.000 And she's in the middle of nowhere like, I don't know where I am.

01:03:16.000 And because the computer told her to do it, she did it.

01:03:19.000 Siri didn't like how she was talking to us lately.

01:03:21.000 She's like, I know what I'm doing.

01:03:22.000 Can I just stress, this is GPS.

01:03:25.000 This is not even like something Running your life.

01:03:28.000 It's literally just a map you can look at and be like, that's bringing me to the desert.

01:03:31.000 I'm not going to go there.

01:03:32.000 And people still do it.

01:03:34.000 Yeah.

01:03:34.000 Matt, what do you think's going to happen when we start getting more and more robots to replace more and more of our lives?

01:03:38.000 Dude, I had my GPS recently tell me to take a U-turn immediately after merging onto the highway when there was a barrier between the sides of the highway that you can drive on.

01:03:50.000 So like, literally, it was just telling me to kill myself.

01:03:53.000 People do it.

01:03:54.000 People do this stuff.

01:03:56.000 It's gonna be, uh, unfun, but, uh... And then, you know what's the best part?

01:04:00.000 I just went onto the highway normal-like, and then in order to get me off the highway and turn around, it, like, specifically had me go through two tolls.

01:04:07.000 Wow.

01:04:07.000 That's rude.

01:04:08.000 It's like, I'm starting to think this is on purpose.

01:04:10.000 See, that's the other thing, too.

01:04:10.000 Come on, man.

01:04:11.000 Does your GPS ever do weird stuff with tolls?

01:04:13.000 Yes.

01:04:14.000 Because I've had other people share similar stories.

01:04:16.000 I don't know if it's intentional, but, uh... It's you, Seamus.

01:04:19.000 Yeah, it's probably just me.

01:04:20.000 We gotta make sure AI stays as advisors and not as commanders.

01:04:20.000 Sorry.

01:04:25.000 It's too late, bro.

01:04:26.000 I don't know.

01:04:26.000 We've already got computer programs that tell us what to do with our day.

01:04:30.000 Think about how much time you waste on social media.

01:04:32.000 Sometimes I'm wearing the watch, and then in the middle of the day, it'll vibrate, and then it shows a little man who's like middle-aged, like a middle-aged kind of tubby guy, and he's like doing like this or whatever, and going like that, and it's like, time to get up, and I'm like, time to get up.

01:04:32.000 I got a watch, right?

01:04:45.000 And Tim literally does exactly that.

01:04:46.000 I literally do.

01:04:48.000 I've seen it happen.

01:04:49.000 It's crazy.

01:04:49.000 It's great.

01:04:50.000 It's like a Pavlovian response.

01:04:52.000 I, the little man says it's time to start moving and I get up and I walk around and I go outside and then that gives me a little thing.

01:04:57.000 I'll get an award.

01:04:59.000 I actually downloaded the footage of the little guy doing that.

01:05:02.000 And whenever I play it, Tim just involuntarily starts doing the workout.

01:05:05.000 He's been so conditioned.

01:05:06.000 Well, because the watch says I have to do it.

01:05:08.000 You can't not listen to the watch.

01:05:10.000 I know.

01:05:10.000 I think we'll have to make sure that following AI instructions gives you reward incentives as opposed to punishment for disobeying.

01:05:17.000 Well, but I think that when war... That's just Brave New World versus 1984.

01:05:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:05:21.000 Thank you.

01:05:22.000 Yeah, I think it's more in cities.

01:05:23.000 You trust it more when it's just a reward.

01:05:25.000 Brave New World versus 1984.

01:05:28.000 Yeah, do you want your happiness medicine or your video game?

01:05:32.000 I'd much rather have the happiness medicine.

01:05:34.000 That's what you're getting right now.

01:05:36.000 I know.

01:05:36.000 When you're- when you're staring at your phone, you're getting those dopamine hits, you're seeing the likes and the retweets, and you're like, oh man, you gotta break that spell, man!

01:05:43.000 It's- no, I'm just saying, like, I am the first to admit I have a problem with it.

01:05:47.000 It's difficult.

01:05:47.000 When you make any of your living on social media, you have this justification for looking at it and engaging with your audience, but it's really easy to justify an addiction that way.

01:05:55.000 There's a really simple way to break the addiction to likes and views and retweets.

01:06:00.000 You just need to have several million followers, get over a hundred million views in a single month.

01:06:04.000 Exactly!

01:06:05.000 No, no, but in all honesty, once there's nowhere left to go, you lose all reward triggering from the entire system, and you lose any and all emotion related to any of it.

01:06:05.000 Once I get there!

01:06:17.000 That's what I'm hoping for.

01:06:18.000 To just lose all of my emotions related to my job.

01:06:20.000 But no, I hear you.

01:06:22.000 I feel like if you hit a plateau, that's sort of what happens.

01:06:25.000 It's not a plateau.

01:06:26.000 It's like, when you've climbed the top of the highest mountain, what do you do next?

01:06:30.000 Eventually, you're just like, well, that was fun.

01:06:34.000 I know, knowing myself, I would try to expand in other things.

01:06:37.000 I'm already doing that.

01:06:38.000 I work with other clients.

01:06:39.000 I try to produce videos for different organizations.

01:06:41.000 I'll always be like, I have to keep pushing out. 0.99

01:06:44.000 What I'm saying is, most people, on, uh, on YouTube.

01:06:48.000 There's a YouTube depression thing that happens because views are seasonal.

01:06:52.000 Especially for a show like this.

01:06:53.000 Dude, that's so true.

01:06:54.000 Yeah, for politics they are.

01:06:55.000 So we're, we're, we're a news poli- I think this is actually Tim Cassirella's Society and Culture.

01:07:00.000 But, uh, Tim Cap- Tim Poole Daily Show is news.

01:07:03.000 So views go way down.

01:07:05.000 And everyone right now is like, haha, CNN's viewership is in the gutter.

01:07:07.000 And I'm like, yeah, but- I'm like, it's not, that's not funny, guys!

01:07:10.000 Well, no, no, no.

01:07:10.000 You shouldn't laugh at someone for that.

01:07:12.000 CNN's general news, so their views shouldn't be this bad.

01:07:14.000 Brian Stelter's like, checking.

01:07:16.000 He's like, Refreshing?

01:07:17.000 Yeah, they couldn't break a million views.

01:07:19.000 CNN couldn't break a million views this past week or whatever.

01:07:23.000 So the point is, but we're in the down season.

01:07:25.000 There's no election this year.

01:07:26.000 There's no primary.

01:07:27.000 So next year's election, things will start kicking back up.

01:07:29.000 But what happens to a lot of these YouTubers is they notice their views are going down.

01:07:32.000 They have panic attacks.

01:07:34.000 They start freaking out like, why are my numbers low?

01:07:36.000 And they feel like they're losing because they don't understand.

01:07:36.000 This is bad.

01:07:38.000 Break the spell, dude.

01:07:39.000 It's not real.

01:07:40.000 No, that's true.

01:07:41.000 I've gotten better at that because they're like over the past year, especially, I feel like I've had a lot of like, it's a weird way of putting it, but steady ups and downs.

01:07:41.000 That's true.

01:07:49.000 It hasn't been all over the place, but it's like, oh, we're doing really good.

01:07:51.000 And then, oh, not so good.

01:07:52.000 And then really good again.

01:07:53.000 And so it's gotten to the point where I don't worry about it too much, but I think it has to happen to you enough.

01:07:58.000 It has to happen to you enough to the point where you know not to be concerned when you're in those dips.

01:08:02.000 We just need to educate kids about this stuff before they get into it.

01:08:05.000 A couple years ago, it was like in May, and I put up a video and the views were just in the gutter, and I was like, did I do something wrong?

01:08:14.000 May was bad for me too. 0.95

01:08:16.000 Is the video not entertaining?

01:08:17.000 Like, what's happening?

01:08:18.000 And I was like, well, I'll tell you what, you can't win them all.

01:08:21.000 So I'm like, you know what?

01:08:23.000 I did my best.

01:08:24.000 I shot my shot, and I'll just keep working tomorrow, and I don't let the little things hold me up.

01:08:28.000 Went out to eat, and all of a sudden, we went out, everywhere we went was packed.

01:08:32.000 Every restaurant, every diner.

01:08:34.000 And I was like, Guys, get back inside and watch my videos!

01:08:38.000 You're exactly right.

01:08:39.000 They were outside.

01:08:40.000 And so then I thought about it, and I looked up, it had been raining the entire week.

01:08:44.000 And so everybody was inside, watching your videos, your views are good, and then the sunny spring day happens, and all of the families wanted to go out to eat in the nice weather.

01:08:54.000 They're not at home to watch videos.

01:08:57.000 Where I come from, rain is a good thing.

01:08:58.000 It's about a YouTuber.

01:09:00.000 When people are inside watching the videos, it's good for them.

01:09:04.000 Oh, sorry.

01:09:05.000 No, go ahead.

01:09:06.000 I just want to mention one more thing because it's on this topic.

01:09:10.000 We have not, you mentioned we should be teaching kids about this stuff.

01:09:14.000 And it's so crazy because we have no idea how to navigate social media in a truly healthy way.

01:09:20.000 And it's not just social media, it's instant connection and communication.

01:09:23.000 So I was thinking about this a while ago.

01:09:25.000 If you had some kind of universal PA system in cars, the way truckers have them, where you can just communicate with other truckers, people would immediately start killing each other.

01:09:34.000 Road wage would get horrible.

01:09:36.000 Like if people... No, no, no, hold on.

01:09:37.000 This doesn't exist.

01:09:38.000 I know Tesla's starting to do it. 1.00

01:09:40.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:09:41.000 It's like ancient technology, bro.

01:09:42.000 No, no, that's what I'm saying.

01:09:43.000 They could do it very easily, but auto manufacturers don't sell cars where you can talk to the other car.

01:09:47.000 Yes, they do.

01:09:48.000 Every single car.

01:09:49.000 What?

01:09:49.000 You're talking about ancient technology.

01:09:51.000 A powerful enough broadcaster will broadcast sound from any speaker.

01:09:55.000 Okay, yeah, yeah.

01:09:56.000 I get what you're saying.

01:09:57.000 So you can literally, if you have the broadcaster, I'm pretty sure that's illegal to do, so don't do it.

01:10:02.000 But if you had a powerful broadcaster, you could literally pull up next to a car and broadcast through their speakers whether they wanted you to or not.

01:10:02.000 Yeah.

01:10:09.000 It's not an issue of frequencies or radios or anything.

01:10:11.000 It's that the signal hits the speaker itself and sends the sound out.

01:10:14.000 My point is Tesla's talked about implementing this with Tesla and truckers have it.

01:10:18.000 The infrastructure for actually talking with the other cars on the road next to you where it's part of the status quo.

01:10:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:10:22.000 You're not doing anything illegal.

01:10:24.000 We don't do this and I suspect part of it is because that would distract drivers and it would also be horrific in terms of road rage.

01:10:29.000 You think about the way people talk to each other on the internet when they think they're anonymous.

01:10:32.000 Imagine when you're on the highway with people you never think you're gonna see again.

01:10:35.000 I think it would cause a lot of problems.

01:10:36.000 And that's a relatively simple technology.

01:10:38.000 You look at social media and how much that's affected us.

01:10:41.000 The fact that we were completely unprepared for it and it was just dropped on us.

01:10:45.000 We have no rules for it.

01:10:46.000 I want to say, I feel really bad for kids today.

01:10:49.000 Yes, me too.

01:10:49.000 You know why?

01:10:50.000 They'll never know the joy of rushing full speed to the wall-mounted phone as you race your sibling to try and answer it first.

01:10:57.000 Because you want to know who's calling.

01:10:57.000 It's true, yeah.

01:10:59.000 Or running to the bathroom in a commercial break.

01:11:02.000 When it rings, and then it's your brother or sister who answers it, and you're like, who is it?

01:11:04.000 And it's like the bank calling and like, who cares?

01:11:07.000 They're asking if I have time to take a survey!

01:11:09.000 Not to be fair, when you have like YouTube TV or one of these networks, you still run to the bathroom when the commercial comes on.

01:11:14.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:11:16.000 But I guess the other thing I wanted to mention is it's not even just social media.

01:11:19.000 You look at the instant communication that we have with our cell phones, SMS.

01:11:23.000 You have an obligation to upkeep relationships with people when you're not even seeing them that day.

01:11:26.000 People will be upset with you for not texting them back quickly enough.

01:11:29.000 In the past, it was completely normal to go a day or two without having conversations with people who you were close to, but now it's constant, and people will even be upset if you're not giving them space in your life and attention when you're not with them that day.

01:11:44.000 You know, Ian, I'm sure everybody here understands this.

01:11:46.000 I remember, it's like, I'm a little kid, and I'm going to my friend's house, gonna go see if they're home, walk across the alley, because we know our friend lives on the next street over, so we walk through the alley, go to the house, knock on the door, there's no answer, and I go, I guess I'm not gonna hang out with him today.

01:12:00.000 Yeah.

01:12:00.000 And that was it.

01:12:01.000 And some days, some days, I'd answer and my friend's mom would answer and I'd be like, you know, as my friend home, she'd be like, oh, he's at the park.

01:12:08.000 Oh, I'm gonna go to the park.

01:12:09.000 No one's there.

01:12:09.000 And I'd go there.

01:12:10.000 And then I'm like, nobody's here.

01:12:11.000 I got some at the park now by myself.

01:12:13.000 That was it.

01:12:14.000 No cell phones.

01:12:14.000 That was life.

01:12:15.000 I caught the very tail end of that.

01:12:16.000 Like, you know, I didn't have a cell phone as a kid or anything like that.

01:12:19.000 It wasn't until high school, but.

01:12:21.000 Oh, the adventures, dude.

01:12:22.000 I remember when I was a kid, just like going out to my friend's house or calling them on the landline, asking their parents if they were home.

01:12:22.000 Yeah.

01:12:27.000 It's like Dr. Manhattan, you know, in Watchmen when he's at the final Antarctic fortress or whatever and Ozymandias has been sent in tachyons to obstruct Dr. Manhattan's future sight.

01:12:38.000 And then he says, you know, he's like, I want to thank you.

01:12:40.000 I'd almost forgotten the joy of not knowing.

01:12:44.000 Bro, before the internet, before cell phones, life was an adventure.

01:12:48.000 You didn't know where you were going or why you were going there.

01:12:50.000 We'd like walk down the old freight tracks and then find like an old abandoned shipping yard.

01:12:54.000 I don't know what it is.

01:12:55.000 Now it's like the map just shows you the whole time and you're like, I knew that was there.

01:12:58.000 It's not fun.

01:12:59.000 Yeah.

01:12:59.000 No, I miss it.

01:12:59.000 No adventure.

01:13:00.000 I miss it.

01:13:00.000 But I'm sorry, Cassandra, you were going to say something.

01:13:02.000 Oh, it's okay.

01:13:03.000 It's not relevant anymore.

01:13:05.000 Just say it.

01:13:05.000 I want to hear it.

01:13:06.000 It's okay.

01:13:07.000 Yeah.

01:13:07.000 Are you sure?

01:13:08.000 Okay.

01:13:08.000 We're way past that now.

01:13:09.000 When did you get internet for the first time?

01:13:11.000 Um, I had it in elementary school at my grandparent's house.

01:13:16.000 I would go on AOL dial-up.

01:13:17.000 Oh my god.

01:13:18.000 Dial-up!

01:13:19.000 My favorite noise.

01:13:19.000 AOL.

01:13:20.000 We had CompuServe on DOS.

01:13:22.000 Bro!

01:13:22.000 We had CompuServe too.

01:13:24.000 On DOS?

01:13:24.000 Not on DOS, bro.

01:13:26.000 What did you know?

01:13:27.000 Nothing.

01:13:27.000 Nothing, I guess.

01:13:30.000 See, my Asian family was very technologically advanced.

01:13:32.000 I see that, yeah.

01:13:34.000 Well, let me tell you about my Irish family.

01:13:35.000 Not super technologically advanced.

01:13:37.000 I thought you were going to say something else.

01:13:38.000 Very technologically advanced.

01:13:39.000 What did you think I was going to say?

01:13:41.000 Some kind of offensive stereotype?

01:13:43.000 I'll have none of it.

01:13:44.000 I thought you were going to mention whiskey or something.

01:13:44.000 I'll have none of it, Timothy.

01:13:46.000 I'll have nothing.

01:13:47.000 I'll have none of this.

01:13:48.000 Mr. Timothy Cast.

01:13:50.000 I thought you were going to say that your family were prestigious and well-renowned distillers of fine whiskeys.

01:13:56.000 Yeah, not drunks at all.

01:13:59.000 Excuse me, Tim?

01:13:59.000 That's extremely offensive.

01:14:00.000 I'm also Irish.

01:14:01.000 He can make some of these jokes, I guess.

01:14:03.000 I like that family guy joke.

01:14:04.000 But your passing is non-Irish, you know?

01:14:06.000 So you don't understand the oppression that we deal with.

01:14:10.000 Like the family guy joke where it's like the plane lands in Ireland and there's beer bottles in the runway.

01:14:15.000 And then he says something like, you know, Ireland was a very different place before the invention of alcohol.

01:14:21.000 And then it flashes back to like, but it's actually a futuristic society with flying cars.

01:14:25.000 And the scientist comes in and he's like, look, they invented out whiskey.

01:14:29.000 And they all start beating each other up.

01:14:31.000 Yeah, I guess it's not true, though.

01:14:32.000 The stereotype of Irish people being drunk has never been true.

01:14:34.000 That's never been true.

01:14:35.000 It was a propaganda thing.

01:14:36.000 I promise.

01:14:39.000 I've never met an Irish person with a drinking problem once.

01:14:41.000 It's true, I haven't either.

01:14:42.000 Are you lying?

01:14:42.000 Not one of them.

01:14:44.000 I've never met an Irish person who BS'd either, Tim.

01:14:46.000 Never.

01:14:47.000 That's not even a thing.

01:14:49.000 Dude, I'm gonna be honest.

01:14:50.000 There's a lot of truth to that stereotype.

01:14:52.000 There's a lot of truth to the stereotype of Irish people drinking a lot. 1.00

01:14:55.000 I gotta be real.

01:14:56.000 The paddy wagon.

01:14:57.000 I don't know what PC nonsense you've been hearing, but it's a thing.

01:15:01.000 So, uh, Britney Spears is Catholic.

01:15:01.000 It is.

01:15:03.000 Britney Spears is Catholic, yes.

01:15:04.000 What?

01:15:04.000 This is incredible.

01:15:05.000 I knew that as soon as we brought it up, Seamus was going to be like, oh, and he was going to start high-fiving everybody.

01:15:09.000 I was going to be like, oh, we got a white pill today.

01:15:11.000 I'm actually really happy to hear this.

01:15:12.000 No, I'm really happy to hear this.

01:15:13.000 I learned about it on social media the other day and lamentably never brought it up on the podcast.

01:15:17.000 I don't know why.

01:15:18.000 What happened?

01:15:19.000 She just posted about how she's Catholic now and she just got back from mass, so good for her.

01:15:23.000 I'm very happy for her.

01:15:25.000 I really do think that is good for her, especially everything she's been through with her family and all this insanity.

01:15:30.000 I've been playing a lot of RimWorld, and in the game, if you put someone in a dark cage and they have a psychotic break, sometimes they'll have a shift of faith.

01:15:38.000 Thanks, buddy!

01:15:39.000 So maybe that's what she just experienced.

01:15:44.000 I've gotta say, I support the Free Britney movement and stuff.

01:15:48.000 I think that, you know, what's happened to her is terrible.

01:15:50.000 Me too.

01:15:50.000 But I've been so frustrated watching Republicans, like, clamor to defend Britney Spears when we have political prisoners who are sitting in jail since January 6th.

01:16:01.000 We have Julian Assange sitting in prison.

01:16:03.000 We have all these political prisoners and they're like, Free Britney, guys!

01:16:07.000 Yeah!

01:16:07.000 But I think that's fair.

01:16:09.000 But I think that's fair, because we were talking about unborn children being killed, but then also you care about animal rights. 0.53

01:16:15.000 I think the unborn children thing is significantly more important, but that doesn't mean it's wrong for you to be as informed as you are about PETA. 0.99

01:16:20.000 I remember back in 2018 when I said Republicans were too stupid to deal with social media censorship to save their own careers. 0.99

01:16:25.000 Also, true. 1.00

01:16:26.000 And, like, all these Republican voters are like, yes.

01:16:28.000 Like, the Republican Party, what do they do?

01:16:31.000 It's amazing.

01:16:31.000 Nothing.

01:16:32.000 It's like, Ilhan Omar can come out and word vomit all over a group of people, and then the Democrats are like, well, now, let's not be too hasty.

01:16:38.000 And then Marjorie Taylor Greene posts something before getting elected, and they're all like, let's strip her of her committees and punish her. 1.00

01:16:44.000 Because the Republicans are losers. 1.00

01:16:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:46.000 There's a couple of them. 1.00

01:16:48.000 I was thinking about Rhino.

01:16:48.000 You know what's funny?

01:16:50.000 Like, you know, people call him Rhino.

01:16:51.000 Yeah, Republicans in name only.

01:16:52.000 But they'll say like, oh, Mitch McConnell's a Rhino.

01:16:55.000 I'm like, no, he isn't.

01:16:56.000 He's exactly the Republican Party. 0.62

01:16:58.000 Oh, bro, that's so true.

01:17:00.000 Rand Paul, Thomas Massey, they're the ones who stand out.

01:17:03.000 That's very true.

01:17:04.000 You're right.

01:17:04.000 No, you're right.

01:17:05.000 I got to give that to you.

01:17:06.000 Yeah, they're the ones who are like, this was our path in to actually affect real positive change.

01:17:10.000 The Republican Party doesn't do anything.

01:17:12.000 They just, I don't know, send them their hands.

01:17:14.000 Yeah, and then they attack the ones who do try to do anything.

01:17:17.000 Yeah.

01:17:17.000 Well, this is the crazy thing.

01:17:19.000 You know, we like to say that they're the speed bump for the Democrats, but they're more like the gatekeepers, making sure that nobody gets in the way and allows the Democrats to do whatever they want.

01:17:26.000 Yes, exactly.

01:17:27.000 Welcome to the Uniparty.

01:17:28.000 Well, and this is the thing, too, because a lot of people I know on the left tend to not like the Democratic Party either.

01:17:28.000 Yep.

01:17:35.000 I basically don't know anyone who likes their political party, frankly.

01:17:41.000 And maybe that's just because I wouldn't hang out with someone who did like their political party.

01:17:45.000 And so it's a sampling bias.

01:17:48.000 Libertarians.

01:17:49.000 Libertarian party.

01:17:50.000 Libertarians don't like the LP.

01:17:51.000 Back when I was libertarian, I hated the LP the whole time.

01:17:57.000 I'm not a fan.

01:17:57.000 I do.

01:17:59.000 But the Mises Caucus.

01:18:00.000 Dave Smith.

01:18:01.000 They're the only good thing as far as I'm concerned.

01:18:03.000 Dave Smith and their pro-life.

01:18:06.000 Watching Dave Smith on Fox News is just amazing when he debates leftists.

01:18:10.000 And they're like, Donald Trump!

01:18:11.000 And he's like, I didn't vote for him!

01:18:13.000 I don't like him! 0.98

01:18:13.000 He's like, I think Trump is a war criminal. 0.98

01:18:16.000 He says it all the time. 0.93

01:18:18.000 He's like, yeah, he does.

01:18:19.000 These tribalist established people can't handle it. 1.00

01:18:22.000 They're like, I don't, you, you, you're clearly a Trump supporter.

01:18:25.000 It's like, no, we're libertarian.

01:18:27.000 We're not, you know what I mean?

01:18:28.000 That's what they're saying.

01:18:29.000 Yeah.

01:18:30.000 That, that's actually given me some, uh, you know, I don't know, white pill, I guess you can call it, but I guess the bigger question is whether or not the libertarian party can pull off any victories.

01:18:38.000 I really think it would be an incredible thing if we had at least one libertarian party candidate in the, in, in the house or something like that.

01:18:46.000 That's my point.

01:18:48.000 I don't really want them in.

01:18:50.000 Well, it's complicated.

01:18:52.000 Here's the thing.

01:18:52.000 I've said this before.

01:18:53.000 My whole voting strategy is vote for the most pragmatic pro-life candidate possible.

01:18:59.000 And it gets difficult when the libertarian party's involved in a national election and they split up the vote.

01:19:04.000 But honestly, I think local elections are unbelievably important, if not more important.

01:19:08.000 If you got a pro-life libertarian, again, even though I don't consider myself libertarian anymore, oftentimes they're going to be a better option than a Republican.

01:19:14.000 Now, of course, again, you get into this issue of splitting up the vote, but that's not always the case.

01:19:18.000 I don't like libertarians.

01:19:21.000 No, I don't like libertarians at all.

01:19:23.000 I think that they're good on foreign policy and stuff like that.

01:19:27.000 But we have a massive crisis with the culture domestically right now.

01:19:31.000 Amen.

01:19:32.000 And they're like, let people be as degenerate as they want.

01:19:35.000 Some of them are like that.

01:19:35.000 No, it's fine.

01:19:36.000 The Hoppians, though, and the Mises caucus. 0.79

01:19:37.000 Drag queen story hour.

01:19:38.000 Yeah, as far as I'm aware, the Hoppians and the Mises caucus people are not like that.

01:19:42.000 Again, I'm not libertarian anymore.

01:19:44.000 Yeah, I support the Mises caucus.

01:19:47.000 What's the difference?

01:19:49.000 In general, I'm not a fan of libertarians.

01:19:51.000 Basically, the Libertarian Party is a disaster.

01:19:53.000 And then some sane Libertarians came out and they were like, we're gonna form a caucus because we're not insane.

01:19:57.000 Mises is a guy, right?

01:19:58.000 Yeah, salute Udvang Mises. 1.00

01:20:00.000 So, yes, I think too much of Libertarianism, it's that meme of the fox, right?

01:20:06.000 You know, the scraggly looking fox, and it's like, that's what Libertarian ideals is, the beautiful fox.

01:20:11.000 Candidates are all like scraggly and weird.

01:20:13.000 The majority of them are open borders.

01:20:15.000 They support allowing things like Drag Queen Story Hour.

01:20:18.000 I've seen a lot of them supporting CRT. 1.00

01:20:22.000 Those people are idiots. 1.00

01:20:25.000 You're great on foreign policy, cool, but we have some problems here right now. 1.00

01:20:30.000 I hear you.

01:20:32.000 Yeah, but but you can be libertarian and be opposed to those things.

01:20:35.000 And that's the problem with libertarians.

01:20:37.000 They ruined libertarianism. 1.00

01:20:39.000 Well, the party, the party itself, the party is garbage. 1.00

01:20:41.000 It's terrible. 1.00

01:20:42.000 Yes.

01:20:43.000 So if you guys want like libertarian party people elected, I have to disagree.

01:20:47.000 No, well that's what I'm saying.

01:20:48.000 If you had good people like from the Mises Caucus in the party who are actually gonna stand up against the federal government when they try to impose these lockdowns on their county, which I think Libertarians in the Mises Caucus would be far more likely to do than Republicans, then I would say, okay, that's a good person to vote for. 0.89

01:21:02.000 But if we're talking about these sort of milquetoast people who are in favor of garbage like CRT and SAIT, Can we get sane, liberty-minded individuals?

01:21:09.000 Yeah, you have a right to like force your perversion onto children. 0.98

01:21:12.000 That's take his clothes off on stage.

01:21:15.000 Like, yes, yes, yep, yep.

01:21:17.000 That did happen.

01:21:17.000 That indeed occurred.

01:21:20.000 We get sane Liberty minded individuals.

01:21:23.000 Well, we, we, we do, I think with music, I guess, but yeah, I think, um, the problem

01:21:27.000 is there are a lot of anarcho capitalists.

01:21:29.000 They're absolutely on, on board with all that stuff.

01:21:32.000 Not that they're on board with it, they don't care.

01:21:34.000 They're really weird about the age of consent stuff too.

01:21:38.000 I really don't like them.

01:21:40.000 You can be on the libertarian spectrum and want individual freedoms and liberties while recognizing we need standards.

01:21:47.000 You know what I mean?

01:21:48.000 I don't want the idea of the scraggly, degenerate, fox, libertarian, ruining the idea of respecting individual liberties and being on the liberty side.

01:21:58.000 The problem is, people who are for liberty tend to be more individualist and don't organize.

01:22:03.000 They're like, leave me alone, I'll do my thing, and then what happens? 0.91

01:22:07.000 Everything goes insane and the lunatics take over. 0.97

01:22:07.000 Right. 0.97

01:22:09.000 They often don't get into politics.

01:22:11.000 I can't bring myself to do it.

01:22:12.000 I think it's technology is the way, if you really are a liberty-minded, sane individual, you should be building technology that will help solve like social media algorithm problems, you know, shipping and materials so that we can get drone deliveries organized all over the world.

01:22:30.000 We're not going to write our way out of this with politics.

01:22:32.000 I ate an MRE earlier.

01:22:34.000 What's that?

01:22:34.000 I had an MRE earlier.

01:22:35.000 How was it?

01:22:36.000 It was pretty good.

01:22:37.000 Yeah, it was really salty.

01:22:37.000 Salty?

01:22:39.000 Because they're fun.

01:22:40.000 It's like Lunchables for adults.

01:22:41.000 Did you eat one last night too?

01:22:44.000 I think I did.

01:22:45.000 There was like an open one on the bar.

01:22:48.000 I may have.

01:22:49.000 Yeah, it's a lot of sodium.

01:22:50.000 Yeah, I had tuna.

01:22:51.000 The tuna one's good.

01:22:52.000 What made you think of it?

01:22:54.000 I don't know.

01:22:55.000 I just burped.

01:22:55.000 That's good.

01:22:57.000 That means you're digesting something.

01:22:59.000 Hey, earlier when I said that psychotic break can make you have a crisis of faith, I wasn't saying that it's psychotic to be Catholic.

01:23:06.000 I was being sarcastic.

01:23:08.000 I'm saying that when people go through psychotic breaks, they have shifts of faith sometimes.

01:23:13.000 And maybe Brittany, who's been locked up and going insane, all of a sudden had a crisis of faith.

01:23:18.000 Or maybe her faith was something she needed to get through that.

01:23:22.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:23:22.000 Because she wasn't Catholic before, right?

01:23:24.000 Now she is? 0.96

01:23:25.000 Is that the story?

01:23:26.000 She was Christian.

01:23:27.000 She may have been a lapsed Catholic or something like that.

01:23:29.000 No, she was a Baptist.

01:23:30.000 She also said, she said, I'm Catholic now, not like I'm taking my faith seriously.

01:23:34.000 So I assume she was not Catholic before.

01:23:38.000 Maybe we need to start thinking about things more like Vermin Supreme did.

01:23:41.000 Yeah, let's go deeper on that.

01:23:43.000 Of just, like, absurdity to challenge the system.

01:23:46.000 Yeah.

01:23:46.000 Organized absurdity.

01:23:48.000 Organized absurdity.

01:23:49.000 I like this idea.

01:23:50.000 I like Andy Kaufman.

01:23:52.000 It's called government goods.

01:23:53.000 It already exists.

01:23:54.000 It's called the DNC.

01:23:55.000 So here's a funny thing.

01:23:57.000 Antifa used to just be called the Black Block, and it was a nebulous term.

01:24:00.000 It was a reference to the group of people who all wear all black and go around smashing stuff, which is basically what we call Antifa now.

01:24:08.000 And there were a lot of people trying to figure out, how do you deal with that?

01:24:10.000 They're like, what's a counter to this?

01:24:13.000 Because if you show up and get into a fight with them, they'll call you far right or whatever.

01:24:16.000 And I was like, boom. 0.96

01:24:17.000 Clowns.

01:24:18.000 Clown block. 0.96

01:24:19.000 Show up, just for the sake of entertainment, to dance and sing and play music and clap and do... That's how you defuse the violence from these extremists. 0.91

01:24:28.000 I just got a unicycle.

01:24:30.000 Perfect.

01:24:31.000 I can breathe fire.

01:24:32.000 Thank you, Cassandra.

01:24:33.000 Let's go.

01:24:34.000 Imagine this. 0.85

01:24:35.000 Antifas going like, we're gonna burn it down! 0.65

01:24:35.000 Imagine this. 0.65

01:24:37.000 And they're all smashing and screaming.

01:24:40.000 And then, like, you know, the right-wing groups show up and they're fighting and they have shields and there's the news.

01:24:40.000 Imagine that.

01:24:45.000 It's like, oh no, there's a clash in the street. 0.99

01:24:46.000 Imagine instead, a bunch of clowns showed up. 0.98

01:24:49.000 And they came with flowers and they were dancing and happy and they were getting in the way of the extremists and they were going in between the black bloc. 0.92

01:24:56.000 How are you going to say a bunch of clowns are the bad guys when they're there with flowers and they're laughing and playing music and dancing and everyone's just like, it breaks that violence apart.

01:25:06.000 I honestly, I gotta say, I think that could stop a riot. 0.98

01:25:09.000 You see Antifa going out there and they're smashing windows and screaming, send in the clowns, man.

01:25:12.000 You know what else would stop a riot? 0.95

01:25:13.000 Police?

01:25:14.000 If we put all these people back into asylums. 1.00

01:25:16.000 Bring back asylums. 1.00

01:25:17.000 That's a good point, too.

01:25:19.000 No, I'm a big fan of exile. 0.66

01:25:22.000 Because it's a personal thing, right?

01:25:24.000 If society came to me and said, what you're doing is wrong, and we want to lock you up for it, I'd be like, can I take a boat and just go off and do my own thing?

01:25:32.000 Cause I'd rather do that.

01:25:33.000 I'd rather risk my own survival.

01:25:35.000 I think they banished Lenin from Russia or from Soviet Union and they banished Napoleon from France, but they both came back like worse than ever.

01:25:43.000 Napoleon came back and started another war and so did Lenin.

01:25:47.000 You know, I was thinking about this.

01:25:48.000 I'm like, what would we do for like healthcare reform and prison reform?

01:25:51.000 And I was like, we should totally get rid of our prisons as we know it.

01:25:54.000 And maybe just create like, um, what do they do in Norway?

01:25:57.000 It's like an island.

01:25:58.000 Yeah, it is.

01:25:59.000 They put everyone on an island.

01:26:00.000 And then, like, you get limited resources and you're basically responsible for yourself.

01:26:00.000 Interesting.

01:26:04.000 And I think there was a study that said they actually found that it eliminated the criminal tendencies because people started working together to survive.

01:26:11.000 Good for them.

01:26:12.000 And, you know, I'm like, maybe that's a better way to do it.

01:26:14.000 Instead of having people in these institutionalized, you know, penitentiaries where they're not actually being rehabilitated, they're being institutionalized.

01:26:21.000 We let people, you know, we obviously monitor their health and safety.

01:26:25.000 We're not sending people to an island just starve to death.

01:26:27.000 But it's like your day is your day. You're responsible for yourself. You can't leave

01:26:32.000 We won't let you but you're free to roam as you please and there would be housing and then it's just like there you go

01:26:38.000 We've we've removed the threat from society and now you're off over there doing whatever you want

01:26:42.000 I think they would form like militias and abuse With no weapons?

01:26:47.000 And they're surrounded by walls?

01:26:48.000 Are they allowed to, like, throw the pedophiles off the buildings?

01:26:51.000 Or what's the deal?

01:26:52.000 Like, do they have police?

01:26:54.000 None.

01:26:55.000 Like, no prison guards?

01:26:57.000 I'm just wondering.

01:26:58.000 That could be bad.

01:26:59.000 Curious.

01:27:00.000 See, cannibalism and all sorts of stuff.

01:27:00.000 Sorry.

01:27:02.000 If you're a violent criminal, no, there would be food. 0.92

01:27:04.000 They would give them food.

01:27:05.000 If you're a violent criminal, Then, through due process, you lose some rights.

01:27:10.000 You lose many of your rights.

01:27:11.000 And I think, why should we spend so much money locking them in these big facilities, desperately trying to contain the threat, instead of being like, you have forfeited, you know, the social contract and we're gonna send you over there and you can go do whatever you want, just not here with us.

01:27:24.000 Yeah.

01:27:25.000 I think prison exacerbates the problem a lot of times.

01:27:28.000 They go sit there with other criminals in a violent environment.

01:27:31.000 What if we make them, and hear me out, you know, they're in these tunnels, and they stand on this pedestal that raises them up, and then there's, you know, 20, 23 other people, and there's in the middle a bunch of weapons, and they're in this big dome, and then the countdown happens, and then whoever survives in the end wins, and is called the victor, and then we do that every year.

01:27:51.000 And they get unleashed onto society.

01:27:55.000 I'm kidding, by the way.

01:27:56.000 You earn your freedom.

01:27:57.000 If you kill the most people, you earn your freedom.

01:27:59.000 Bro, that's like the movie Gamer.

01:28:01.000 You've seen Gamer?

01:28:02.000 Never seen it.

01:28:03.000 Hot action.

01:28:04.000 Yeah, I like that movie with Gerard Butler.

01:28:07.000 That's the dude from 300.

01:28:08.000 Yeah, he's amazing.

01:28:10.000 Yeah, that movie was cool.

01:28:11.000 He's one of my favorite actors of all time.

01:28:12.000 Oh, they're bringing Dexter back.

01:28:14.000 Yeah, they're filming it in Massachusetts.

01:28:17.000 I'm kind of excited for that because Dexter was awesome, but it ended.

01:28:20.000 But the ending was bad.

01:28:21.000 So I'm kind of okay with a new ending.

01:28:26.000 Did you see Suicide Squad?

01:28:28.000 No, because I am very still upset about what they did to Suicide Squad.

01:28:33.000 It was my favorite comic.

01:28:36.000 Oh, brutal.

01:28:37.000 Partial spoiler.

01:28:39.000 I'm not going to spoil anything from the movie.

01:28:42.000 But if you don't want to hear anything about the movie, then you're not going to want to hear what I have to say, my critique of it.

01:28:48.000 So you've been warned.

01:28:50.000 Hold on, let me take my headphones off.

01:28:52.000 Let me take my headphones off so I can.

01:28:54.000 I didn't really enjoy it.

01:28:55.000 I'll say this.

01:28:56.000 I laughed a lot.

01:28:58.000 But I think I realized something.

01:29:00.000 James Gunn doesn't have the magic.

01:29:02.000 Kevin Feige does.

01:29:04.000 And James Gunn has some good ideas that when put through the Marvel Studios filter made an excellent movie.

01:29:09.000 But I was really confused as to why they did Suicide Squad this one the way they did.

01:29:14.000 Now apparently it's getting rave reviews.

01:29:16.000 They did it, they redeemed themselves.

01:29:17.000 I'm like, no they didn't.

01:29:18.000 No, they didn't.

01:29:20.000 Was Jared Leto in that?

01:29:22.000 No.

01:29:22.000 Okay, he apparently didn't take that one very seriously.

01:29:25.000 He should be banned from ever playing the Joker.

01:29:29.000 Ever.

01:29:29.000 I'm really, really, really mad about something in Suicide Squad.

01:29:33.000 As soon as this one thing happened, I almost turned it off.

01:29:36.000 Why would you say that?

01:29:37.000 Is this new?

01:29:38.000 Yeah, it just came out.

01:29:40.000 Came out like, what is it?

01:29:41.000 Like, yeah, this morning, like midnight.

01:29:43.000 Oh! 0.60

01:29:44.000 Wait, you already saw it?

01:29:44.000 Yeah.

01:29:45.000 You were watching it?

01:29:46.000 Yeah, it's on HBO Max.

01:29:48.000 Dude, it's funny, because I took my headphones off and put my fingers in my ears, and I was like, wait a minute.

01:29:52.000 Because I hate having things spoiled, but I was like, I'm never going to watch this.

01:29:55.000 Wait a second.

01:29:57.000 I was like, the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, as Tim's going on about Suicide Squad.

01:30:02.000 I don't want to say, it's too soon to say spoilers.

01:30:06.000 I can't even talk about spoilers.

01:30:07.000 It's too soon.

01:30:08.000 It literally just came out, so I'll have to wait.

01:30:09.000 You advise people to go see it?

01:30:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:30:12.000 I definitely think you really have a fun time.

01:30:14.000 Go to the movies, grab some popcorn and sit back.

01:30:17.000 The first one?

01:30:19.000 Okay, I was amped for that movie.

01:30:22.000 It was sold out, so I had bought like three different showings of it.

01:30:26.000 I got an outfit for it because I love Suicide Squad.

01:30:31.000 I love anything involving the Joker and so I was amped and then I went and saw it and I was just like me and like five other people that were random people that were in the theater were screaming at it.

01:30:43.000 And I hate that guy.

01:30:45.000 I hate the person who screams at the movie theater but we were like throwing our popcorn yelling. 0.80

01:30:50.000 Sometimes it's that bad?

01:30:51.000 It was that bad.

01:30:51.000 Who's your favorite Joker?

01:30:52.000 It was pretty bad.

01:30:53.000 Um, Joaquin Phoenix.

01:30:54.000 Really?

01:30:54.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:30:55.000 Really?

01:30:55.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:30:56.000 Really?

01:30:56.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:30:57.000 Really?

01:30:57.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:30:58.000 Really?

01:30:59.000 Really?

01:30:59.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:00.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:01.000 Really?

01:31:01.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:02.000 Really?

01:31:02.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:03.000 Really?

01:31:03.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:04.000 Really?

01:31:05.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:06.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:06.000 Really?

01:31:07.000 Really?

01:31:07.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:09.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:09.000 Really?

01:31:11.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:11.000 Really?

01:31:12.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:12.000 Really?

01:31:13.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:13.000 Really?

01:31:14.000 Really?

01:31:15.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:16.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:16.000 Really?

01:31:17.000 Really?

01:31:18.000 You liked him more than Heath Ledger?

01:31:19.000 You liked him more than Heath It was well done.

01:31:19.000 Really?

01:31:23.000 It was for a supervillain, and it was not your typical supervillain.

01:31:27.000 I was just like, the ending blew me out of my seat.

01:31:31.000 I went and saw it twice in a row.

01:31:33.000 Joker.

01:31:33.000 The opening night.

01:31:33.000 The first one, yeah.

01:31:35.000 My problem with it was that there was no Batman.

01:31:37.000 There was no villain in that movie.

01:31:39.000 It was called Joker, not Batman, bro.

01:31:40.000 Batman would have been the villain.

01:31:42.000 Well, actually, Batman is in it.

01:31:44.000 I mean, Bruce is in it.

01:31:45.000 There is a villain.

01:31:46.000 There's Murray.

01:31:47.000 There's Bruce Wayne.

01:31:48.000 I've never got to see it.

01:31:50.000 I'd like to see Joaquin play the Joker in a Batman movie.

01:31:50.000 I don't know.

01:31:54.000 That would be cool.

01:31:56.000 In the Flash, Michael Keaton's coming back, I guess.

01:31:56.000 I agree.

01:31:59.000 Michael Keaton's going to be playing Batman in the Flash movie, which is awesome.

01:32:03.000 Michael Keaton, by the way, also I think the best Marvel villain, to be completely honest.

01:32:06.000 Adrian Toomes.

01:32:07.000 Did you guys see Homecoming?

01:32:08.000 No.

01:32:10.000 It was one of the best villains I've seen in any of the Marvel movies.

01:32:13.000 He's so realistic.

01:32:14.000 A working class guy doing cleanup on a contract, he already bought the gear, and then the government comes in and says, you're out, and he's like, come on guys, we already bought the equipment, we gotta pay this off, I got people to feed, and they're like, so what?

01:32:27.000 And so he gets screwed over by the government and he becomes this like, I'm going to take whatever I have to take kind of villain.

01:32:33.000 It was good.

01:32:34.000 The new Joker is based off of Bernie Getz.

01:32:34.000 It was good.

01:32:37.000 Did you guys know that?

01:32:38.000 Who is that?

01:32:39.000 I didn't know that until recently.

01:32:43.000 It was a really big case that the NRA had got involved with.

01:32:47.000 He killed or he shot.

01:32:49.000 I don't remember if he killed them, but he shot some people on the subway.

01:32:53.000 And was basically like, I'm sick of crime.

01:32:55.000 I took it into my own hands.

01:32:57.000 He was the subway vigilante guy.

01:33:00.000 Sung about in We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel, who looks like Michael Keaton.

01:33:08.000 It all comes together Ian.

01:33:09.000 He doesn't look like Michael Keaton.

01:33:10.000 I always thought he did.

01:33:11.000 What?

01:33:12.000 Ever since I was a kid.

01:33:12.000 In the 80s he looked a lot alike.

01:33:14.000 Maybe.

01:33:14.000 That was back when the NRA had guts.

01:33:16.000 Anyway, John Cena.

01:33:18.000 John Cena and Suicide Squad I thought was pretty good.

01:33:20.000 Oh?

01:33:21.000 I thought it was great.

01:33:23.000 He's funny.

01:33:23.000 He's good.

01:33:24.000 John Cena's great.

01:33:25.000 Yeah, that was rad.

01:33:26.000 And Idris Elba, pretty good.

01:33:28.000 But I almost turned it off.

01:33:30.000 Marga Ruby in it again?

01:33:31.000 Yes.

01:33:32.000 She's like the face of the movie basically.

01:33:33.000 Just... I just... I almost couldn't watch it.

01:33:35.000 I was... I was... angry.

01:33:38.000 Damn. 1.00

01:33:38.000 I was like, I can't believe they would do this. 1.00

01:33:41.000 But... They're making a new alien?

01:33:42.000 They're just abusing these titles now.

01:33:44.000 It's true.

01:33:44.000 Yeah.

01:33:45.000 Well, how about we go to Super Chats?

01:33:45.000 Man.

01:33:47.000 Super Chats!

01:33:47.000 Yes, let's do it.

01:33:49.000 If you haven't already, give us a super chat, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, go to TimCast.com, become a member.

01:33:53.000 We've got some new shows in the works, hopefully soon.

01:33:58.000 Oh, so you know, like, the mystery show.

01:33:59.000 I've got so much to tell you, Cassandra.

01:34:01.000 Yeah, we've got a ton of stuff being done.

01:34:04.000 We've got tons of people working on it.

01:34:05.000 We've had a bunch of really great stories.

01:34:08.000 for those that are listening it is coming the branding is is we're working on the artwork and i think you'll get a kick out of the the vibes we're going for so anyway let's read some of these super chats matthew hammond says cassandra is the best and needs her own timcast.com show please make this happen tim her typed words are not enough I hate being on camera and I only agreed to this because Tim said that I could bully Peeta.

01:34:32.000 And that she could bully me. 0.99

01:34:33.000 I didn't say it like that.

01:34:33.000 I'm just kidding.

01:34:35.000 I was like, Cassandra, would you like to come on the show Friday?

01:34:36.000 And she goes, can I talk about Peeta?

01:34:37.000 And I was like, of course.

01:34:40.000 Did we like finish talking about Peeta?

01:34:42.000 Was there more you were going to tell us?

01:34:43.000 I could talk about them all night.

01:34:44.000 Yeah, you were really good.

01:34:45.000 I'm surprised you don't like being on camera.

01:34:47.000 Their lawyer, Jared Goodman, he's my mortal enemy now.

01:34:55.000 I gotta read this one.

01:34:56.000 Jurassic Josh says, Alex Jones, quote, human-animal hybrids are real. 0.67

01:35:00.000 Mainstream media, while hiding the rat with a baby's scalp. 0.99

01:35:04.000 Navra, are you crazy? 1.00

01:35:05.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:35:06.000 They actually call them chimeras.

01:35:07.000 Well, aren't they growing human organs in pigs? 0.99

01:35:10.000 I think I've seen that.

01:35:10.000 Problem.

01:35:12.000 I heard about that.

01:35:12.000 They ruled against it.

01:35:12.000 For transplants.

01:35:13.000 Democrats did, remember?

01:35:15.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

01:35:16.000 So they've got to do it offshore or something now.

01:35:17.000 They've got to pay a company to do it for them.

01:35:19.000 Do you guys ever watch The Isle of Dr. Moreau?

01:35:21.000 Do you imagine just like a facility full of like weird like animal people?

01:35:27.000 I watched some kind of like conspiracy documentary that claimed that there's something like that in the US once and I was really really into it but this was years ago and I can't remember what it was but it was interesting just in like the weird like I mean you watch it thinking like this isn't probably isn't true but it's interesting to watch right yeah they were claiming that there were like goat people and stuff now I'm like maybe All right, let's see.

01:35:55.000 Jesse Meek says, love your show.

01:35:57.000 Can't catch it live often.

01:35:58.000 Shout out to your entire crew.

01:35:59.000 You all never fail to impress, especially you, Lydia.

01:36:02.000 Sorry I can't help your Twitter ratings.

01:36:04.000 I do not social media.

01:36:05.000 Shout out to Liberty Doll also, please.

01:36:08.000 I understand.

01:36:08.000 Don't do social media.

01:36:12.000 Najma says, in California, if a woman is murdered while she's pregnant, it's considered a double homicide no matter how far along she is.

01:36:19.000 Wow.

01:36:19.000 Is that true in California?

01:36:20.000 Yeah, that is correct.

01:36:21.000 Wow.

01:36:22.000 I will look this up, but yeah.

01:36:23.000 I remember hearing that, because I was listening to something from Rand Paul, and he said, you know, he was an OB-GYN, life begins at conception, and then someone mentioned, someone argued with it, saying it's not true, and they were like, in California, it's a double homicide.

01:36:35.000 How can they justify that being true, but then argue the inverse when it comes to abortion?

01:36:39.000 It's like, Can't have it both ways?

01:36:41.000 Great question.

01:36:42.000 Actually, that would have been a good point to ask Vosh when he was here, because he said, he was asked when does he think life begins, and he says, I don't know, birth, maybe?

01:36:42.000 You know?

01:36:49.000 It's like, okay, well then, do you think California should repeal its law about double homicide?

01:36:54.000 If that's, you know, the case.

01:36:55.000 Great question, yeah.

01:36:58.000 Drumorette says, I was born at 23 weeks.

01:37:01.000 Knowing they're doing abortions after that time frame is sickening to me.

01:37:04.000 Wow.

01:37:05.000 Wow, dude.

01:37:06.000 Good for you.

01:37:07.000 You made it.

01:37:10.000 Some of these I can't read, but I love the righteous indignation.

01:37:13.000 I'm glad people are fired up about this.

01:37:16.000 And you know what?

01:37:17.000 If you're fired up about this, please don't limit it to a super chat.

01:37:21.000 Go out there and tell people about this.

01:37:23.000 Talk about this.

01:37:24.000 Organize, um, call your, call your, your, your, your Congress people, your senators, make those phone calls, man.

01:37:31.000 Because I'll tell you this, people don't realize that stuff works.

01:37:33.000 It does.

01:37:34.000 Yeah.

01:37:34.000 Like imagine you, look, these people are trying to figure out what gets them elected.

01:37:38.000 Yep.

01:37:38.000 And if, and if someone's fired up, it's like, what was it?

01:37:41.000 Was it family guy where they're like, we received seven phone calls complaining about last night.

01:37:45.000 That means 7 billion people are upset.

01:37:48.000 Well, that's, that's, that's how they work.

01:37:49.000 Like if, if, if a Congress person gets like 50 phone calls, they're going to be like, this is, this is lighting people up.

01:37:54.000 This is crazy.

01:37:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:37:55.000 And so Congress people are, in some sense, easy to control for the same reason that the American people are easy to control.

01:38:02.000 No one cultivates virtue.

01:38:04.000 They take the path of least resistance.

01:38:05.000 Whatever they have to do to preserve their status quo is something they're going to be willing to do.

01:38:09.000 So if they feel that their political career is contingent upon them opposing the dismemberment of unborn children and humans being used for scientific research, then they might just be against it.

01:38:19.000 So please write your letters.

01:38:20.000 Unless you're addicted to losing, do something about this.

01:38:22.000 I would like to issue a legitimate Apology to people who are upset by hearing everything we talk about, but just hope you understand that we need to talk about it.

01:38:31.000 Archangel762 says, thanks Tim.

01:38:33.000 I was in a good mood until I heard this, but more people should know this is happening.

01:38:37.000 That's, that's, that's the reality.

01:38:39.000 You know, it's, it's like, do we, do we only talk about candy canes and rainbows and movies?

01:38:46.000 Or are we like the frontline talking about some of the darkest things so that people can go watch movies and not have to worry about it?

01:38:52.000 Well they do have to worry about it.

01:38:53.000 it will use the thing up we talk about political issues all the time it's

01:38:57.000 culture and politics and we also talk about some pretty serious issues in where you were able to make a

01:39:02.000 light of it for joke about it sometimes make entertaining but there are

01:39:05.000 some things that are so serious you can't really joke about them you

01:39:08.000 can't make it funny it's just gonna bring everybody's mood down but we still

01:39:11.000 gotta talk about that stuff dark days

01:39:13.000 jmax says it's convenience Man will sell his soul to make life a little less hard.

01:39:17.000 Yes.

01:39:18.000 How many people complain about Amazon, right and left alike, but they're dropping that stimulus check on new shoes shipped right to their door?

01:39:24.000 Yep.

01:39:24.000 That is a fact.

01:39:25.000 True.

01:39:26.000 Yep.

01:39:28.000 It's difficult to source all of these things, you know?

01:39:31.000 It's like, how much time do we have in the day?

01:39:33.000 Amazon's made it so easy.

01:39:35.000 They're siphoning off resources, the greatest wealth transfer in history.

01:39:37.000 Did you hear what Bezos said when he came back from space?

01:39:40.000 And he's like, thanks, you paid for it.

01:39:45.000 You know why we paid for it?

01:39:46.000 Because everybody's small business got shut down because of these ridiculous lockdowns.

01:39:50.000 And so we weren't able to patronize people in our neighborhoods who had built businesses up from scratch and contributed to our community.

01:39:55.000 So we had to buy it from you.

01:39:58.000 That's why we paid for it.

01:39:59.000 Thank you, Mr. Bezos.

01:40:00.000 Or, I should say, you're welcome.

01:40:03.000 A-Tree Broker says, I work on farms every day.

01:40:06.000 There is no such thing as factory farms, the made-up lefty definition.

01:40:09.000 If you'd like to talk about it, hit me up.

01:40:10.000 Alright, well, whatever you want to call it, I have seen the farms where the conditions are horrible, and I have seen the farms where the conditions are fantastic.

01:40:18.000 I can drive around this area, and every single farm is beautiful, like a fairy tale.

01:40:23.000 No joke, it's like so much fun.

01:40:24.000 One of them has, like, llamas.

01:40:26.000 Yeah.

01:40:27.000 Why haven't we gone, bro?

01:40:28.000 You never took me to a llama farm?

01:40:30.000 How many times I've been here and you never took me to a llama farm?

01:40:32.000 You can pet the llamas.

01:40:33.000 Oh, cool.

01:40:34.000 No joke.

01:40:35.000 The llamas are chilling.

01:40:36.000 I'm just mad at you now.

01:40:37.000 They spit? 0.93

01:40:38.000 Yeah, I was worried about that.

01:40:39.000 They're so great.

01:40:39.000 But you can pull right up and it's like five bucks and they walk up to the llamas because they know people love llamas so much.

01:40:45.000 Think about that for a farm.

01:40:46.000 They're like, people want to see this so much they'll pay us just to stand here?

01:40:50.000 But then look at some of these other farms where it's all dirt and mud and they're loaded up and it's like, call that whatever you want to call it.

01:40:56.000 But no one's going to be going there to pet the muddy, diseased animals.

01:41:00.000 Yeah, I know.

01:41:00.000 Oh, how sad.

01:41:01.000 Feces and blood. 0.75

01:41:02.000 There'll be pools of feces and blood. 0.99

01:41:04.000 Giant pools of it outside where they like wash everything off with a hose and it just soaks into the groundwater and contaminates.

01:41:11.000 And they won't let drones fly overhead to take pictures.

01:41:14.000 Absolute disgust.

01:41:15.000 This is the amazing thing about the farms I went to in California where the cows could do whatever they wanted.

01:41:19.000 Because I was like, do you milk them?

01:41:20.000 He's like, they go in the machine.

01:41:21.000 And I was like, what?

01:41:23.000 He's like, yeah, because it's too much milk.

01:41:24.000 It hurts them.

01:41:25.000 So they, they go in the machine and the machine just, you know, gets the milk out for them.

01:41:28.000 And I was like, really?

01:41:29.000 He's like, yeah, they love it.

01:41:31.000 And all the cows were like jumping up and down. 0.79

01:41:33.000 They were happy.

01:41:33.000 They were like hanging out and having friends.

01:41:35.000 And I was like, wow.

01:41:36.000 In New Zealand it was like that too.

01:41:38.000 I drove from Auckland to Wellington, New Zealand.

01:41:41.000 There's just cows and sheep everywhere.

01:41:42.000 And they're, they're, they're, they're just happy as can be, man.

01:41:45.000 It's good stuff.

01:41:48.000 Alright.

01:41:48.000 That is really sad.

01:41:50.000 I'm gonna go curl up in a ball and have a good cry after this.

01:41:51.000 Yeah, this is a tough episode, wow.

01:41:52.000 500 pigs a day and let's just say this the the stun stick used to knock on used to knock unconscious was never used

01:41:59.000 Because too slow he would all he would have been fired. It's sad. That is really 0.97

01:42:04.000 I'm gonna go curl up in a ball and have a good cry after this

01:42:07.000 All right Ian Crossland on Twitter, on, uh, Super Chat says, Tim, can you talk, can you ask Ian to talk about Graphene more?

01:42:22.000 It's a username, Ian Crossland, and it's your picture.

01:42:24.000 I did see Ian, like... Graphene is a model.

01:42:26.000 What was the joke?

01:42:27.000 Yesterday, uh, we were... I called him Graphene.

01:42:29.000 No, he's his own podcast.

01:42:30.000 You said that, uh, he replaced something with Graphene.

01:42:33.000 What was that?

01:42:34.000 Oh, we have footage of that.

01:42:34.000 Oh!

01:42:36.000 We were improvising.

01:42:37.000 We brought something up about Graphene.

01:42:38.000 I think we were, like, doing a fake Timcast episode, and Oh, man.

01:42:42.000 And Seamus was pretending to be Ian.

01:42:44.000 And then said something about like... About graphene, dude.

01:42:46.000 I don't remember.

01:42:47.000 We're talking about fluoride and there's like replace the... We need to replace the fluoride with graphene or something.

01:42:53.000 Graphene tattoos.

01:42:54.000 Yeah, I'll definitely talk about graphene more.

01:42:56.000 Thanks for the super chat.

01:42:58.000 Yeah, Ian had nothing to do with that.

01:42:58.000 Thanks, Ian.

01:43:00.000 That's right.

01:43:01.000 Dude, why do simple gags like that get me?

01:43:04.000 It's like someone making a fake Ian account.

01:43:06.000 Sorry, keep going, Tim.

01:43:08.000 We need a meme of Ian snorting graphene.

01:43:10.000 Oh my gosh.

01:43:11.000 Don't do that.

01:43:11.000 Please don't do that.

01:43:13.000 Oh my gosh, no.

01:43:14.000 All right, The Raptor's Talon says, Mr. Freedom Tunes, Ian was simply saying that the article had loaded language in it.

01:43:19.000 Ian, please be more careful about what you call propaganda.

01:43:22.000 It's difficult enough to listen to this episode.

01:43:24.000 We don't need an argument about loaded language.

01:43:26.000 I thought the language was fine.

01:43:28.000 I'll use extreme examples sometimes to make my point, and it can evoke an emotional response.

01:43:35.000 Yeah, I mean, I was fine with the language.

01:43:38.000 Whoa.

01:43:38.000 Wow.

01:43:39.000 Good for him, John Wick.

01:43:40.000 says years ago, Marcus Marcus Luttrell, the Navy SEAL that lone survivor is about chased people who killed his dog 100

01:43:47.000 miles an hour. Check out the 911 call crazy. Wow. Good for him.

01:43:50.000 John Wick man. Yeah. John Wick.

01:43:53.000 That's why it's a good movie.

01:43:54.000 You know why?

01:43:54.000 Because I understood.

01:43:55.000 Totally identify with that.

01:43:57.000 Totally understood.

01:43:58.000 That little dog.

01:43:58.000 100%.

01:43:59.000 And he's just like, I know I have to kill every single person. 0.99

01:44:02.000 I keep thinking about Bucko, man. 0.99

01:44:03.000 Like, yeah, they're property, but they're dudes.

01:44:06.000 They have personalities.

01:44:06.000 They're like people.

01:44:07.000 I wouldn't say they're people, but they do have personalities.

01:44:09.000 In some countries actually say that elephants are people.

01:44:12.000 And dolphins, because they're so smart.

01:44:14.000 They give them personal...

01:44:16.000 Bucco hangs out.

01:44:17.000 He's a cat.

01:44:18.000 And so, like, we were all chilling in the living room with, like, the movie on, and he comes in and jumps up on a chair, and he's, like, sitting in a chair, and everybody, and, you know, he's doing his thing.

01:44:25.000 Hey, Tim.

01:44:26.000 If he was bigger than me, he'd definitely be a... Remember yesterday, when I said I was gonna... I have no control.

01:44:29.000 When you said what?

01:44:30.000 Well, that's true.

01:44:30.000 If the cat is bigger than you, that cat... I mean, look at tigers, you know?

01:44:33.000 Sometimes they go missing.

01:44:35.000 Bro, Tim, I told you yesterday that I was going to wear a suit and then it was going to be my podcast because I was the one wearing a suit.

01:44:41.000 It looks great.

01:44:42.000 It's red, white, and blue.

01:44:43.000 This is a coup.

01:44:44.000 That's the whole reason I brought this suit.

01:44:46.000 Shameless cast IRL.

01:44:46.000 Exactly, this is shameless cast IRL.

01:44:48.000 I want everyone at home to know.

01:44:49.000 I'm gonna tell everyone to start calling you James.

01:44:51.000 James?

01:44:52.000 Dude, it'll just be Jimcast IRL.

01:44:55.000 Bro, why am I not reading the superchats?

01:44:58.000 This is my podcast now.

01:44:59.000 I want to thank Tim for coming by.

01:45:02.000 So can we call you Shim for short?

01:45:04.000 Shimcast IRL? 0.77

01:45:06.000 Shimmy Sham? 0.78

01:45:07.000 Shamus is Gaelic for James.

01:45:09.000 And then what's James, like British? 0.99

01:45:09.000 That's right. 0.99

01:45:10.000 James is a British version of Jacob.

01:45:13.000 How dare they?

01:45:14.000 Which means supplanter or who grabs at the heel.

01:45:16.000 Look at that, supplanting.

01:45:17.000 So if Noman has to Omen, that means I replace you, bro. 0.96

01:45:21.000 If James is Jim, then Seamus is Shim.

01:45:23.000 That's right.

01:45:24.000 Shim-sham-coglin is what they call me.

01:45:25.000 So they call me on the South Side.

01:45:26.000 You know what they really call me on the South Side?

01:45:28.000 Afraid.

01:45:29.000 I was gonna say.

01:45:30.000 I don't go there often.

01:45:31.000 But do we?

01:45:32.000 Mate.

01:45:33.000 All right, let's see.

01:45:37.000 Little Tales Farm says Tim, when our black ayam simani chickens we just got start laying

01:45:41.000 eggs, I'll send you some.

01:45:43.000 They are highly sought after and beautiful.

01:45:44.000 P.S.

01:45:45.000 Thanks for the idea, Chicken City.

01:45:47.000 We're filming building ours now.

01:45:48.000 Good for you!

01:45:50.000 We are in construction for the new Chicken City, so...

01:45:52.000 That's right.

01:45:53.000 We needed a better way to get the cameras in, and so it was gonna take really long cables, and we were like, we need to move this to better have the, like, to have the layout better.

01:46:01.000 And, uh, so now there's also a dog on the property too, which is gonna, it's basically all the, all the critters are gone.

01:46:06.000 And we are, we are also incubating some of the babies.

01:46:09.000 If you want to send eggs, what about some fertilized ones that we can put in the incubator and then make more chickens?

01:46:16.000 Yeah, we're growing them.

01:46:18.000 Got the incubator going.

01:46:19.000 Yeah, Tim, show me.

01:46:20.000 He has a flashlight.

01:46:21.000 Special, like, egg flashlight.

01:46:22.000 You put the egg on the flashlight, and you can see, like, the blood vessels inside the egg.

01:46:26.000 Yeah, you can see the chicken actually doing chicken stuff.

01:46:28.000 Oh, wow.

01:46:29.000 Inside the egg.

01:46:30.000 It's so cool.

01:46:31.000 Yep.

01:46:32.000 Alright, let's see what we got.

01:46:35.000 Eric Britt says PETA kills animals on a regular basis, claiming that they are saving them.

01:46:39.000 Look it up.

01:46:40.000 Are they doing anything good for animal rights?

01:46:45.000 No.

01:46:46.000 Like, what is the problem?

01:46:47.000 What happened?

01:46:47.000 They used to be, right?

01:46:48.000 No.

01:46:49.000 I think that it's always been a cash grab.

01:46:52.000 See, when they take these animals, anytime that an animal is seized under the Endangered Species Act, The government will pay for their care.

01:46:59.000 They basically pay child support and welfare.

01:47:02.000 And so all of this, it's all about money. 0.72

01:47:04.000 I don't believe that they are actually genuinely doing anything other than trying to get teenage girls to do naked stunts for their... Yeah, isn't that disgusting? 0.90

01:47:13.000 I hate PETA. 0.99

01:47:14.000 Yeah, no, I've noticed that too.

01:47:16.000 They've also, you know, they've also done like a lot of anti-Catholic stuff too.

01:47:19.000 I know they try to get real edgy by like having naked women in their Yeah, I can't think of anything good that they've done. 0.98

01:47:30.000 I mean, maybe letting people see what happens to, like, baby chicks. 0.96

01:47:35.000 You know, they've released some footage of that.

01:47:36.000 But I don't even think that they're the ones that got it.

01:47:38.000 I think they just steal it from other people.

01:47:40.000 Like, you know, there was Phil up in Canada who blew the whistle on Marineland.

01:47:47.000 And he was a walrus trainer, and he did all these amazing things, and then when Marineland came after him and started, you know, the lawsuits, PETA was nowhere to be found.

01:47:57.000 They were fundraising off his name, and then they did not help at all with his legal fees or anything like that, and they're still fundraising using Marineland's name, and they're just terrible.

01:48:07.000 I hate them.

01:48:08.000 I don't like to say that I hate things.

01:48:10.000 Tell us how you really feel.

01:48:11.000 Tell us how you really feel, Cassandra.

01:48:12.000 I mean, I honestly, their vice president blocked me on Twitter today.

01:48:17.000 I've been on a crusade and it's not ending ever.

01:48:20.000 You guys know how I am when people like hurt my friends.

01:48:23.000 These guys went after my friends and now it's war.

01:48:26.000 We got a super chat for you.

01:48:29.000 Yeah, I highly recommend it.

01:48:33.000 I think it was on YouTube if people want to go watch it.

01:48:37.000 Highly recommend.

01:48:38.000 It's great.

01:48:39.000 The whole BS, can't say it obviously, bullish.

01:48:42.000 Amazing show by Penn & Teller.

01:48:45.000 However, they did mention that the show is very loaded.

01:48:48.000 So the episode on PETA was good.

01:48:49.000 You can factor this stuff, but it's a loaded show, so you gotta make sure you keep that watchful eye.

01:48:53.000 I mean, the things that they say are true, though.

01:48:55.000 Oh, for sure.

01:48:56.000 I mean, these are all facts that you can go... If you go to PETAKILLSANIMALS.COM, they have all the documents from the Virginia inspectors.

01:49:04.000 They have a plethora of information that you can go dig through yourself.

01:49:09.000 It's not like opinion pieces.

01:49:10.000 They have the documents.

01:49:11.000 They have the photos.

01:49:13.000 I highly recommend going and looking at it.

01:49:15.000 I really think you'd be great if you did a podcast.

01:49:17.000 I know you said you don't like being on camera and I don't want to pressure you.

01:49:19.000 I'm just telling you, I think you'd do great.

01:49:21.000 No, I ramble.

01:49:21.000 I've been rambling this whole show.

01:49:23.000 I get so nervous.

01:49:25.000 She is going to contribute to our new Mysteries podcast.

01:49:27.000 Oh, cool.

01:49:30.000 So we're going to have a lot, a lot of stuff.

01:49:32.000 It's going to be fun.

01:49:33.000 We're actually planning on hiring an additional writer.

01:49:35.000 So we've got Shane Cashman.

01:49:37.000 He does, once a week, these long-form stories.

01:49:40.000 They're really good stuff.

01:49:41.000 It's really good stuff.

01:49:42.000 Exploring these ideas and, like, checking out these weird, spooky mysteries.

01:49:46.000 And then we're gonna add articles to the show which are, like, less... well, short-form news.

01:49:51.000 So, like, when there's a UFO sighting or a government report or, like, there was a Bigfoot sighting recently.

01:49:55.000 Did you guys see this?

01:49:56.000 It was in West Virginia.

01:49:56.000 No.

01:49:58.000 I don't know, but I forget to wear my shirt one day and go outside and all of a sudden it's Bigfoot site.

01:50:05.000 I don't believe it's really a photo of Bigfoot, but apparently.

01:50:08.000 So it's like we're going to have someone writing about the unexplained and these fun stories.

01:50:13.000 It's a very academic approach to things, but it's fun to be like, I wonder what is that?

01:50:13.000 We're very skeptical.

01:50:17.000 Are you skeptical of Bigfoot?

01:50:19.000 Bigfoot, I do not believe exists.

01:50:20.000 I bet there used to be giant hominids like, what was it? 1.00

01:50:24.000 Denisovans? 1.00

01:50:25.000 Yeah, but that they're extinct.

01:50:28.000 There's a Bigfoot group that actually meets in our neighborhood.

01:50:35.000 And there's, you know, there's people who swear that there's a juvenile Bigfoot that live around our We've been talking about underground caves on earth like that.

01:50:43.000 We don't really know much about and there could be lots of life What if they have the ability to phase through solid matter and that's why we don't see them because as soon as they notice They're there.

01:50:53.000 They're just slings down underground by phasing through matter.

01:50:55.000 It's more real more realistic.

01:50:57.000 Yeah my community is so wholesome that this woman got lost while she was walking her dog and And she was fine.

01:51:04.000 She just took a wrong turn and it was dark out.

01:51:07.000 Nobody could find her.

01:51:08.000 But people had posted in our neighborhood group being like, hey, this woman's missing.

01:51:13.000 We need to go find her.

01:51:14.000 And everybody went looking for her.

01:51:15.000 And nobody would even entertain the possibility that she had been hurt by a human or kidnapped or something.

01:51:21.000 Everybody was just convinced that if she had been taken, it was by Bigfoot.

01:51:26.000 And I was like, I love my neighborhood.

01:51:30.000 But why would anyone in your neighborhood hurt somebody?

01:51:32.000 Right.

01:51:33.000 We have no crime there.

01:51:34.000 There's like, there's no way she got hurt.

01:51:34.000 Right.

01:51:35.000 It had to have been Bigfoot.

01:51:37.000 Of course.

01:51:37.000 If everybody was earnestly like, you know, if it was, it would have had to have been a creature that was very tall and had arms like a human, but not a human.

01:51:46.000 Cause duh. 0.99

01:51:47.000 And it was just, like, so cute.

01:51:49.000 I loved it.

01:51:50.000 I will say, though, people at the range got really mad because during the search, they were walking, sweeping through the forest, and people were actively shooting.

01:51:58.000 There's a range on the mountain.

01:51:59.000 And they were like, what are you doing?

01:52:01.000 Can't you hear what's going on?

01:52:02.000 You can't walk this way.

01:52:04.000 It's so dangerous.

01:52:05.000 But, you know, they weren't really paying attention.

01:52:07.000 Yeah.

01:52:08.000 Alright, Christopher Coulter says, morally indefensible acts remain indefensible despite the scientific value.

01:52:13.000 And there is a perverse incentive structure inherent to the argument, even if the scientists have no direct involvement in the abortion of the child.

01:52:19.000 Amen, brother.

01:52:20.000 That's a really, really good point.

01:52:22.000 Jeez, perverse science.

01:52:24.000 Man, what a debate.

01:52:25.000 Well, this is why we need philosophy and there's so many scientists who scoff at this too. 0.99

01:52:29.000 I've heard people who are very popular, I won't name names, but who consider themselves activists for science and they'll say, well, science gets you real results and philosophy is stupid. 0.95

01:52:37.000 It's like, all right, what year is it? 0.96

01:52:39.000 You know, it's 2021.

01:52:40.000 We still don't have a perfectly completed science of Diet, frankly.

01:52:45.000 People still argue for what we should be eating, but we've been able to create bombs using the scientific method that have killed 200,000 people with one drop, right?

01:52:52.000 In Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I should say two drops. 0.89

01:52:54.000 My point is, science is an incredibly powerful tool, but it needs to be constrained by ethics.

01:53:00.000 Here's a good one.

01:53:00.000 Paul Fongkam says, there's an episode of Stargate SG-1 where there's people living in a dome on a polluted planet.

01:53:08.000 The dome was shrinking.

01:53:09.000 The computer AI solution was to send people outside the dome to die and erase the memory of that person from citizen memory.

01:53:15.000 I just saw this, it was just on recently, and it's a really good episode.

01:53:18.000 Basically what happens is, for those unfamiliar with Stargate, there's a portal, it's called the Stargate, and they're exploring a network of addresses they have to all these different planets.

01:53:25.000 They go to one, and they send this machine, like the drone, and then they see the whole planet.

01:53:31.000 It's like the atmosphere is totally toxic.

01:53:32.000 You'll die.

01:53:34.000 And then they drive forward, and it enters this weird force field where everything's normal-looking.

01:53:39.000 Trees and buildings, and they're like, whoa.

01:53:41.000 So they put on suits, they go, and they find the city of about 1,700 people.

01:53:45.000 And they're like, yeah, we're the last survivors on this planet.

01:53:48.000 How did you get here?

01:53:49.000 And there's a council with four people on it.

01:53:51.000 And they are trying to discuss, you know, about, you know, saving lives or something.

01:53:55.000 We gotta get you out of here.

01:53:56.000 And then the next day, the council only has three people.

01:53:59.000 And they're like, what happened to the lady?

01:54:00.000 And they're like, what lady? 1.00

01:54:01.000 And they're like, the fourth person.

01:54:02.000 They're like, there was no fourth person.

01:54:04.000 There's never been a fourth person.

01:54:05.000 They wore this thing called the Link, which connected their brains to the central AI.

01:54:10.000 And what they thought, they thought it was giving them access to the summation of their knowledge.

01:54:14.000 And then eventually they end up discovering that the force field is shrinking because the power, it's running out.

01:54:20.000 And the city used to have a hundred thousand people in it.

01:54:23.000 And it had been diminished.

01:54:24.000 And there was one guy and they go to his house and he's got a wife.

01:54:29.000 And the wife is helping one of the characters decipher like old texts.

01:54:34.000 And then all of a sudden, one day the woman gets up and then walks straight outside the force field and just dies.

01:54:38.000 And you don't see what happened, she just walks out. 0.74

01:54:40.000 And then when they go to the husband, they're like, what happened to your wife?

01:54:42.000 And he goes, I don't have a wife.

01:54:44.000 I've never been married.

01:54:46.000 And so the AI was like, to prevent chaos and rioting and panic, just erase using the link into people's minds to erase their memory of the people.

01:54:55.000 One by one they're just disappearing.

01:54:57.000 They wouldn't be able to find a solution because they didn't know there was a problem.

01:55:00.000 And that's a really, I think, a really good point about AI too, is that the AI is like, this is going to allow them to survive as long as possible.

01:55:07.000 But with human ingenuity, perhaps if they knew there was a problem, they could have fixed their energy crisis, but the machine didn't care.

01:55:12.000 It's just serving its purpose.

01:55:13.000 I mean, unfortunately, this is what happens with a lot of totalitarian leaders.

01:55:16.000 They say things like, well, I will improve the human condition for everyone if I just kill this handful of people, and then it ends up spiraling out of control, and it's more than a handful of people, but you don't need some dystopian artificial intelligence to get you there.

01:55:28.000 We've seen it before.

01:55:29.000 Yeah, social media censorship.

01:55:30.000 If you don't know there's a problem, how are you going to fix it?

01:55:34.000 You censor the problem away, then it's going to fester.

01:55:37.000 I'm talking even prior to social media.

01:55:40.000 People in control are very good at masquerading their homicidal lust for a concern for humanity.

01:55:48.000 We'll actually help people by doing this.

01:55:51.000 Ja B says, Cassandra, will you please do a video on the Highgate Cemetery slash vampire?

01:55:56.000 I'm fascinated by it.

01:55:59.000 What is that?

01:55:59.000 Possibly.

01:56:01.000 I'm not actually sure.

01:56:03.000 I know that I've heard the name, but I am blanking.

01:56:07.000 Let's look it up for sure, yeah.

01:56:09.000 Yeah.

01:56:11.000 Jennifer Presley says, Tim, so you weren't one of us kids that had walkie talkies in the late 80s?

01:56:16.000 In the late 80s, I was three.

01:56:18.000 I had walkie talkies.

01:56:19.000 Three years old.

01:56:20.000 Ian, why you got to flex like that, bro?

01:56:21.000 What's up?

01:56:22.000 I got to flex.

01:56:23.000 From the 70s, yeah.

01:56:23.000 Every time I hear Ian is 40, I don't believe it.

01:56:28.000 I used to have a Ricky Gator Roper backpack.

01:56:31.000 Goonies for life! 0.82

01:56:32.000 What's up?

01:56:33.000 We had walkie talkies in the 90s.

01:56:34.000 I had walkie talkies as a kid in like the 90s, early 2000s.

01:56:39.000 We had a rotary phone when I was growing up.

01:56:41.000 Dude, remember how cool you thought a walkie talkie was and now you can FaceTime people

01:56:45.000 and it's like eh?

01:56:46.000 Right.

01:56:47.000 There's no novelty anymore.

01:56:48.000 Anywhere in the world, you can walkie-talkie anyone anywhere.

01:56:50.000 Dude, it's like playing with cheat codes!

01:56:52.000 It's so boring.

01:56:53.000 It's so true. 0.84

01:56:54.000 Yeah, I tried to get my daughter walkie-talkies, because I was like, oh, you can talk to your friend.

01:56:58.000 She's just down the street.

01:56:59.000 She's like, I'll just Skype her.

01:57:01.000 I can literally just, you know what?

01:57:03.000 I can see her face and have it not be fuzzy.

01:57:04.000 It's like, oh.

01:57:05.000 Yeah.

01:57:06.000 I think it's funny that when you watch movies like Demolition Man, they really thought back in the 80s and early 90s that the future would be pay phones with like cameras so you could see people.

01:57:17.000 Or like they would go to their wall and press the button and they would see it's like a video phone was the idea.

01:57:22.000 And then we did make it, but nobody predicted that we'd have computers in our pockets.

01:57:26.000 You know what's ironic?

01:57:27.000 It would actually probably be better for humanity if our interface technology for looking at someone else's face when they're far away from us was a kind of payphone structure because we wouldn't have this thing in our pocket all the time distracting us from everything.

01:57:38.000 What was it?

01:57:39.000 There's this show, maybe it's Black Mirror, where like people got banned from society so when you saw them you just saw like a silhouette.

01:57:47.000 Yeah, it's disturbing.

01:57:49.000 They're muted.

01:57:50.000 Yeah, they're muted.

01:57:51.000 You could block people in real life.

01:57:52.000 That is block mirror, yeah. 0.99

01:57:53.000 But that's kind of dumb, because what if they're nuts and they're gonna attack you? 0.99

01:57:56.000 Right. 0.99

01:57:56.000 You know? 0.99

01:57:57.000 Right.

01:57:57.000 Too bad.

01:57:58.000 You need to, like, not just block them.

01:57:59.000 You simply hit undo.

01:58:00.000 Yeah.

01:58:01.000 But you don't know if, like, you can't see them.

01:58:03.000 You just hit edit undo after they stab you.

01:58:05.000 That's right, you're like something, guys.

01:58:05.000 You're good.

01:58:06.000 It's all a simulation anyway. 0.94

01:58:07.000 I'm stabbed.

01:58:08.000 Oh, man.

01:58:10.000 I'm not gonna lie to you, there have been times when I've been drawing on paper, and I make a mistake, and for half a second I think to click undo.

01:58:17.000 If you could develop precognition and see five seconds into the future, would you?

01:58:21.000 No.

01:58:22.000 Really?

01:58:23.000 Yeah.

01:58:24.000 No.

01:58:25.000 What about you, Cassandra?

01:58:26.000 I don't think so.

01:58:27.000 Wait, what was that?

01:58:28.000 If you could develop precognition and have the ability to see five seconds into the future, would you?

01:58:32.000 Yes.

01:58:33.000 I would too.

01:58:33.000 Why?

01:58:34.000 Because you'd be able to predict... Have you ever seen the movie Next?

01:58:38.000 No.

01:58:38.000 No, this is really so it's it's Nicolas Cage. Oh, I have seen this. I think it's a great movie. I think it's really

01:58:43.000 it's fun He can he can see a certain amount of time into the future

01:58:47.000 So he's able to make these moves like perfectly but there's one scene

01:58:51.000 It's brilliant where he's looking for someone in a room and it's gonna end in an industrial setting and then you see

01:58:57.000 him walk forward And then all of a sudden four versions of him walk out in

01:59:00.000 each different direction Because what he's doing is, he's walking forward, and then using his precognition, looking at what happens if he walks forward and turns left, walks forward, turns right, walks forward, goes forward again, turns left.

01:59:12.000 And so he's seeing everything all at once, and then he goes, they're there in the back of the left room.

01:59:16.000 And then he just instantly knows, because he can see.

01:59:18.000 It's not just about seeing the future, it's about seeing the future of all the different possibilities of the actions you might take.

01:59:24.000 But what we just talked about earlier, you get cheat codes, things are boring.

01:59:28.000 Yeah.

01:59:29.000 Yeah, like the world, we have the cheat codes.

01:59:30.000 Now we just still need to beat the game, but it's boring because we have all the cheat codes.

01:59:34.000 But it's like, no, you still got to beat it.

01:59:35.000 You still got to play it through with the cheat codes.

01:59:38.000 I mean, maybe, you know, I'd be down to be fun.

01:59:41.000 You know, you'd go skateboarding, you'd never get hurt ever again.

01:59:44.000 Is it fun to skateboard if there's no risk?

01:59:46.000 Yes.

01:59:47.000 You don't think that adds to the thrill at all?

01:59:49.000 Yeah, a little bit.

01:59:50.000 But it would be great because you'd be like, I want to try the craziest trick, and then you see the future of you falling and breaking your leg.

01:59:56.000 You still gotta get the skills to be able to do the trick.

01:59:57.000 You can't just pretend.

01:59:59.000 You can't just jump on a rail if you've never skated before.

02:00:01.000 You gotta get good.

02:00:02.000 Okay, so here's the thing.

02:00:03.000 What if there are things which are inherently risky, and if you do them enough to get good, you have to get hurt at some point, but you never allow yourself to get hurt because of the precognition, so you never get good.

02:00:11.000 So you never get good.

02:00:13.000 Oh, interesting. 1.00

02:00:13.000 You have a weak mind. 1.00

02:00:14.000 The fear of the risk prevents you from taking it. 0.78

02:00:16.000 But what if you don't know?

02:00:19.000 Let's say it's a fact that in order to get good at skateboarding, you have to hurt yourself X number of times.

02:00:25.000 It happens.

02:00:25.000 But you have this precognition, and you avoid anything that's going to hurt you because you think there's a way of getting good without getting hurt.

02:00:32.000 It's very, very simple. 0.96

02:00:33.000 Then you have a weak mind.

02:00:34.000 I go skating every day, and I know I'm going to fall, and I fell several times today.

02:00:39.000 Granted, I've been rollerblading more than skateboarding recently.

02:00:41.000 Sure, but you get out there and you skate, but before you fall, you don't know that you're any more likely to fall than you were at any other time when you get on your skateboard, right?

02:00:48.000 It just happens unexpectedly.

02:00:49.000 I think if you expect it, it makes you less likely to do it.

02:00:52.000 No, you expect to fall.

02:00:53.000 That's how you open up.

02:00:54.000 But you don't know for sure you're going to fall.

02:00:55.000 Like if you could see five seconds into the future and you knew you were going to fall off your skateboard this time, you might be less likely to do it.

02:01:02.000 Well, it depends because a bail isn't a slam.

02:01:06.000 Sometimes you slam and slamming messes you up and takes you out.

02:01:10.000 Bailing is normal.

02:01:11.000 Bailing is the, you can get hurt a little bit.

02:01:12.000 Bailing is when you choose to bail off of the trick and slamming is when you unexpectedly get hurt.

02:01:17.000 So getting, I gotta be honest, getting hurt less, you'd become way better.

02:01:21.000 You make a good point though, Seamus, because sometimes mistakes are what make us better.

02:01:24.000 That's a good point.

02:01:24.000 Yeah.

02:01:25.000 Yeah.

02:01:26.000 And so like saying the wrong thing to someone that upsets them in the short term might hurt, but make you both stronger people afterwards.

02:01:32.000 Yeah.

02:01:34.000 Luke Keller says, Tim, the guy who said that the term factory farms is a fake made-up word used by MSM to destroy farmers is correct. 0.97

02:01:40.000 The vast majority of farms are family-owned and operated.

02:01:43.000 99% of beef cattle are owned by family farms.

02:01:46.000 It's why we are most under assault.

02:01:48.000 It sounds like a PSYOP.

02:01:49.000 Is this insane world?

02:01:49.000 What is this?

02:01:51.000 I didn't say that factory farms were the overwhelming majority.

02:01:54.000 I didn't say that most farms are factory farms.

02:01:58.000 I said there are farms that are mistreating animals. 0.97

02:02:02.000 It happens.

02:02:02.000 I don't know.

02:02:04.000 But all the farms out here, they're so beautiful.

02:02:07.000 It's so much fun when you go, like I went to one farm and they had this big pen and they had like a hundred chickens and it was hilarious just watching them all do that.

02:02:15.000 There was a young rooster, it was tiny, and he was like smack talking and like strutting around and I'm like, look at this pathetic little thing, it's hilarious!

02:02:21.000 And then you walk over and the goats are jumping off stuff and you know, it's hilarious. 0.94

02:02:25.000 Dude, you have a rooster that talks some smack on the compound. 1.00

02:02:28.000 Yes, we didn't know he had a rooster too, we thought he was a chick. 0.98

02:02:30.000 He's just constantly screaming all the time.

02:02:33.000 He doesn't have the spikes on his feet.

02:02:35.000 It's really interesting.

02:02:36.000 So the farmer thought it was a hen, a baby, a female, and so we weren't expecting it a rooster, and then all of a sudden started becoming a rooster and going, and we were like, what was that?

02:02:47.000 Tim, I think we should just eat it.

02:02:48.000 But there's no foot spikes.

02:02:50.000 You know, like the roosters have like the... I'll still eat it, it's fine with me.

02:02:53.000 No, I guess you don't eat rooster.

02:02:54.000 No, yeah, they're tough and stringy.

02:02:56.000 But here's the thing, Keith, there has to be something... Alright, I'm just saying, your rooster's broken.

02:03:00.000 He screams all day long.

02:03:01.000 It's not just in the morning when the sun comes up.

02:03:03.000 That's a myth, bro.

02:03:03.000 Every couple minutes.

02:03:04.000 Chickens, that's roosters. 0.75

02:03:06.000 Are roosters just... They just scream all the time?

02:03:07.000 Yes.

02:03:07.000 I'm such a city slicker, I didn't know this.

02:03:09.000 That's right.

02:03:09.000 He just sits there and screams all day.

02:03:10.000 But not all the time, it's so weird.

02:03:12.000 Sometimes he just doesn't scream.

02:03:13.000 This dude's just been screaming all the time.

02:03:15.000 He's warning predators.

02:03:15.000 He's just talking smack.

02:03:16.000 Well, he warned me, I'm scared of him.

02:03:18.000 I'm really glad too because roosters will sacrifice themselves to protect the ladies.

02:03:23.000 And it's really funny when we let them out into the garden to do their daily, you know, chicken business.

02:03:28.000 He won't eat.

02:03:29.000 He'll just like stand there watching as all the ladies are eating and enjoying themselves. 0.92

02:03:34.000 I like him now.

02:03:34.000 You know, imagine that.

02:03:36.000 Imagine that.

02:03:36.000 Imagine a world where the women are safe and comfortable and they're all, you know, happily going around eating all our little zucchinis.

02:03:42.000 Because there is a big strong rooster who's like, I will forego eating for now to make sure you can all eat safely.

02:03:48.000 I love it.

02:03:48.000 Would that impose any sort of role on the women?

02:03:51.000 Because then that's not okay.

02:03:51.000 Chicken patriarchy!

02:03:52.000 I love it. 0.83

02:03:53.000 You can get right up in his face and he'll still scream at you.

02:03:56.000 But it's real weird, like his eyes are still, he'll be looking at you and he's like...

02:04:00.000 I love it.

02:04:00.000 I love that Norton knows.

02:04:01.000 Like a foot away.

02:04:02.000 So we know Ian has gotten in the rooster's face.

02:04:05.000 I know that you've gotten close to the camera.

02:04:07.000 Yeah, I got eye contact, you know?

02:04:09.000 And then he got pecked and he's like, I wish I had five feet of foresight.

02:04:11.000 There was a cage between us.

02:04:12.000 I love him, but he's moving.

02:04:13.000 We're moving the roosters outside of my room.

02:04:15.000 Oh gosh, good luck. 0.99

02:04:16.000 So I may want to murder that thing at some point. 1.00

02:04:19.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:04:19.000 You will. 1.00

02:04:20.000 Yeah, no, you're certainly going to want to murder it at some point.

02:04:22.000 Because he's loud at 4 a.m.

02:04:23.000 sometimes, 5 a.m.

02:04:24.000 Maybe you need to stop waking up at 7 p.m.

02:04:26.000 I do keep weird hours.

02:04:27.000 That's also true.

02:04:28.000 Yeah, the weird hours thing.

02:04:29.000 We've had, like, guests who are really excited, like, I really want to meet Ian, I'm so excited, and he's leaving.

02:04:33.000 And they're like, but I gotta leave at, like, six.

02:04:33.000 Too bad.

02:04:35.000 Ian's a sleeper, I tell you that.

02:04:37.000 Yeah, I'll have to meet him next time.

02:04:39.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it's been a fabulous Friday night.

02:04:41.000 Thanks for watching TimCast.

02:04:41.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:04:42.000 It's been a whole lot of fun.

02:04:43.000 You can follow the show at TimCastIRL, basically everywhere, and you can follow me personally at TimCast.

02:04:47.000 Go to TimCast.com.

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02:04:50.000 Help support our fierce and independent journalism from people like Cassandra.

02:04:54.000 Thank you.

02:04:54.000 Amen.

02:04:55.000 Do you want to shout anything out?

02:04:56.000 Um, it is not enough to not support PETA.

02:05:00.000 We must be actively anti-PETA.

02:05:02.000 Yes!

02:05:03.000 I love it.

02:05:04.000 I love it.

02:05:05.000 There you go.

02:05:06.000 You rock.

02:05:06.000 Thanks for coming, everyone.

02:05:07.000 Ian Crossland.

02:05:08.000 Peace and love.

02:05:10.000 I love what you just said.

02:05:11.000 I'm absolutely going to steal it.

02:05:13.000 Let's just pretend it was original when I say it.

02:05:15.000 Shim-sham-coglin! 1.00

02:05:16.000 It's Shim-sham-coglin. 1.00

02:05:17.000 This has been ShimCast IRL.

02:05:19.000 I want everybody to know.

02:05:21.000 It's not enough to oppose abortion.

02:05:23.000 We have to be actively anti-abortion. 0.93

02:05:26.000 And thank you for watching.

02:05:27.000 I know we got into some dark topics, but it was well worth it.

02:05:29.000 God bless all of you.

02:05:30.000 Please pray the rosary for an end to abortion. 0.95

02:05:33.000 And do everything that you can.

02:05:34.000 Talk to people about this.

02:05:35.000 If you know someone considering an abortion, be brave.

02:05:37.000 Tell them.

02:05:38.000 you know, uh, that this is an unborn child, give them the information that they need in

02:05:42.000 order to choose life.

02:05:43.000 I think offer them support, you know, like be compassionate.

02:05:46.000 I will help you if you have this child, please.

02:05:48.000 You should because that is a child and what you're going to do is end their life.

02:05:51.000 Yeah.

02:05:53.000 My mother used to work in a like an anti-abortion support clinic where these people would go if they were thinking about having an abortion. 1.00

02:06:00.000 My mom was like, please don't have an abortion. 1.00

02:06:02.000 We have these clothes, we have diapers, we have everything you need.

02:06:05.000 And I thought that was wonderful because that was one of the one of the greatest things she did.

02:06:09.000 I'm on on the side of Seamus here.

02:06:11.000 I don't think that anybody should have an abortion ever.

02:06:14.000 So, if you know somebody who's considering having an abortion, please direct them to... What's it called, Seamus?

02:06:22.000 What's it called?

02:06:23.000 Crisis Pregnancy Center.

02:06:25.000 It's important to know that many, many women who have had abortions say that it's because they didn't feel they had any other option, they had no other support.

02:06:32.000 You have to be that support for them.

02:06:33.000 That's right.

02:06:34.000 Send them to a Crisis Pregnancy Center. 1.00

02:06:36.000 I will, I will add...

02:06:36.000 They will help them.

02:06:38.000 I just, I can't stand the meme from the left where they say like, conservatives don't, you know, are pro-life until the baby's born.

02:06:46.000 And I'm like, I don't think they follow any conservatives.

02:06:48.000 Cause like, I follow a bunch of conservatives and they're always posting about orphanages and like taking care of kids and adopting and providing support and donating.

02:06:55.000 And I'm like, I don't think that's true.

02:06:56.000 I think you just want to believe it's true because it kind of absolves you of some responsibility to blame someone else.

02:07:02.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:07:03.000 It's projection.

02:07:04.000 It's projection, right?

02:07:05.000 Because they tend not to care all that much for the groups that they advocate for.

02:07:08.000 I mean, imagine if the same standards were applied to them.

02:07:10.000 They'll say things like, oh, you're pro-life, how can you be pro-life if you haven't adopted any children?

02:07:14.000 All right, well, like, how many refugees have you paid to house?

02:07:18.000 None of them do.

02:07:19.000 I actually know many pro-life people who have adopted children.

02:07:22.000 I don't really know left-wing people who have put money on the table to help the marginalized groups that they claim to advocate for.

02:07:29.000 I know so many conservative people who are very pro-life and have adopted children.

02:07:34.000 Like, there's Gina Loudon, there's all kinds of people who are doing that. 0.81

02:07:38.000 That's true.

02:07:41.000 You gotta get out of that propaganda bubble, man, because you're allowed to have whatever politics you want, so long as you can recognize, like, objective reality.

02:07:48.000 And we all kind of disagree on a lot of things, but at least we can have real conversations about things that we...

02:07:54.000 As for this show, Nightmarish, but I'll leave it there.

02:07:57.000 Did you shout out your Twitter yet?

02:07:58.000 I didn't.

02:07:59.000 You guys are more than welcome to follow me at SourPatchLits, L-Y-D-S, on Twitter.

02:08:04.000 I routinely tweet extremely pro-life things.

02:08:08.000 That is my hill to die on.

02:08:09.000 So that's why.

02:08:10.000 Tonight's show is definitely why that happened.

02:08:13.000 So yeah, follow me there.

02:08:14.000 Yeah, myself as well.

02:08:15.000 I tweet a lot of pro-life stuff.

02:08:18.000 Freedom Tunes is my YouTube channel if you want to check that out.

02:08:20.000 And we did another Fauci video.

02:08:22.000 Tim and I did another Fauci cartoon.

02:08:24.000 Tim voiced Fauci.

02:08:24.000 It was beautiful.

02:08:25.000 I thought the cartoon came out very well, so check that out.

02:08:28.000 And thank you for tuning in to ShimCast IRL.

02:08:30.000 That's right!

02:08:31.000 Thank you guys for being my guests.

02:08:32.000 Tim, I always appreciate when you come on.

02:08:33.000 Lydia, you too.

02:08:34.000 Thanks, Seamus.

02:08:35.000 Thanks for having me, Seamus.

02:08:36.000 I really, yeah, of course.

02:08:37.000 Anytime.

02:08:38.000 Anytime, of course, guys.

02:08:39.000 Go to TimCast.com, become a member, and we'll see you all.

02:08:42.000 I don't think we're going to have the vlog up tomorrow because we're shuffling around.

02:08:46.000 We hired more people because we're trying to make the vlog daily, but maybe Sunday.

02:08:49.000 So YouTube.com slash CastCastle.

02:08:51.000 If you've been missing these episodes, you are really missing out because Kent has been doing animations.

02:08:56.000 Oh my gosh.

02:08:57.000 There was this one amazing one where Ian's like, I'm on the roof, and I decided to let down my magnetic force field.

02:09:02.000 And then this wolf hominid comes and he wants to eat me.

02:09:05.000 And then Ian goes, I was high.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 06, 2021

Timcast IRL - University Exposed Experimenting On Full Term Baby Parts w-Cassandra & FreedomToons

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