Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - US Plans TROOPS IN GAZA, Biden Holds Secret Talks Of US OCCUPYING Gaza w-JR Majewski

00:00:00.000 the American people.

00:00:14.000 troops being deployed into Gaza to occupy the Gaza Strip.

00:00:19.000 And we also have reporting, now this I think we all knew, special forces, U.S.

00:00:23.000 special forces are on the ground in Israel with speculation that they're actively working in Gaza.

00:00:29.000 The special forces are there reportedly to help identify hostages, U.S.

00:00:33.000 hostages, But considering that they are engaged in a ground operation in Gaza, the speculation is that the U.S.

00:00:41.000 forces are in Gaza, too.

00:00:42.000 So, hey, maybe it all just goes belly up and this becomes another big mess where the United States ends up losing another war.

00:00:51.000 Because, uh, you know, we backed Ukraine and they lost, and Afghanistan and Iraq are disasters, and oh boy, we can go back in time, but here we are.

00:00:57.000 We got more news!

00:00:58.000 This one's interesting.

00:00:59.000 New polls are coming out, and they're all starting to include RFK Jr.

00:01:02.000 So now it's a three-way race with Biden, Trump, and RFK Jr., and guess what?

00:01:07.000 Guess who loses in almost every one of these polls?

00:01:10.000 Well, Kennedy, obviously.

00:01:12.000 No disrespect!

00:01:14.000 Joe Biden. Now, there was one poll that shows that Quinnipiac shows that Trump loses if Kennedy runs,

00:01:21.000 but all the other polls, they're showing that if Kennedy is on the ballot, Donald Trump beats Joe

00:01:26.000 Biden. And the scary thing is it's like thirty five to thirty seven. So people are not gonna

00:01:30.000 be too happy about those numbers.

00:01:32.000 We'll get into that.

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00:02:40.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a lot more is J.R.

00:02:43.000 Majewski.

00:02:44.000 Hey Tim, thanks for having me, man.

00:02:45.000 Who are you?

00:02:46.000 What do you do?

00:02:46.000 So I'm a Republican candidate for the 9th District of Ohio for Congress, and I was the 2022 nominee.

00:02:53.000 And unfortunately, because of some Democratic smears, I ended up losing my election, but I'm back into the race this cycle.

00:03:00.000 You're also a big nuclear energy guy.

00:03:01.000 Yeah, former nuclear energy guy.

00:03:03.000 Specialized in spent nuclear fuel.

00:03:05.000 Wow!

00:03:06.000 Alright, we'll definitely talk about that.

00:03:07.000 Hannah Clare is here.

00:03:08.000 Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.

00:03:09.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

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00:03:11.000 You should click on the read tab on the website and see all the work from me and other journalists.

00:03:15.000 And of course, making his victorious debut, Ian.

00:03:18.000 Debut?

00:03:18.000 I'm back!

00:03:19.000 I don't know, return.

00:03:21.000 What's up?

00:03:22.000 Hello, everyone.

00:03:22.000 I'm back from Miami.

00:03:23.000 I had an incredible, relaxing, rejuvenating spirit quest.

00:03:26.000 It was amazing.

00:03:27.000 And I want to give a shout-out to some people that I met along the way.

00:03:29.000 Adam Sosnick from the Valuetainment Network.

00:03:31.000 Thanks for having me on, Adam, on Soscast.

00:03:34.000 That was a good time.

00:03:35.000 Also, Lauren Day Laguna, Pixie, Amy Dangerfield from the up-and-coming Pink Pill Podcast.

00:03:39.000 You're going to want to check it out on YouTube.

00:03:41.000 Destiny had me on his show.

00:03:42.000 Lichen, Destiny's chef, the man.

00:03:44.000 Thanks for making dinner for us.

00:03:45.000 And, of course, Luke Rutkowski, who hosted me.

00:03:49.000 With We Are Change and Clint Russell, we did some shows.

00:03:51.000 If you haven't seen them yet, go to Rumble and check out Luke Rudkowski, We Are Change.

00:03:54.000 It was so much fun, Luke.

00:03:55.000 Thank you.

00:03:56.000 Good to be back, Tim.

00:03:57.000 Thanks, man.

00:03:58.000 We got Serge to my right.

00:03:59.000 Yes, I'm here.

00:04:00.000 Glad to have you back, Ian.

00:04:01.000 And ready to start the show when you are, Tim.

00:04:03.000 Here we go, man.

00:04:04.000 Here's the story from the Daily Mail.

00:04:06.000 Biden administration holds secret talks on stationing American troops in Gaza after Hamas is defeated.

00:04:12.000 But U.S.

00:04:13.000 officials fear deepening political peril after Israel shelled a refugee camp.

00:04:17.000 Oh boy, there's so much here.

00:04:19.000 So it's not a refugee camp.

00:04:20.000 Here we go again.

00:04:22.000 But we'll get into this because there are civilian deaths.

00:04:25.000 It's just, man, it's just lies, lies, lies.

00:04:28.000 But here's the worrying part of the story.

00:04:29.000 First, Bloomberg, I love their warmongering headline.

00:04:34.000 U.S.

00:04:34.000 and Israel weigh peacekeepers for the Gaza Strip.

00:04:37.000 What does that mean?

00:04:38.000 Let's just say it like it is, Bloomberg.

00:04:40.000 The U.S.

00:04:40.000 wants U.S.

00:04:41.000 soldiers in Gaza.

00:04:43.000 Now, here's what's important to understand.

00:04:45.000 The way they're framing it is after Hamas.

00:04:48.000 After?

00:04:49.000 Well, Times of Israel, citing the New York Times, says that U.S.

00:04:53.000 Special Forces are already deployed into Israel on the ground to assist with recovering hostages.

00:04:59.000 But come on, what does that mean?

00:05:01.000 This means Special Forces are going to be working on... I mean, I don't see any other argument that could be made.

00:05:07.000 I suppose you could argue that U.S.

00:05:09.000 Special Forces are just in a room somewhere in Tel Aviv, you know, giving intel and giving advice.

00:05:15.000 I don't think we use special forces for that, but maybe the most likely thing is they are engaged in recovery, which we

00:05:20.000 on this show warned about several a month ago that or not even a month ago, a few weeks ago, that if U.S.

00:05:28.000 citizens are taken captive, are kidnapped, then the U.S.

00:05:33.000 typically sends boots on the ground to bring them back.

00:05:36.000 And so now that we're seeing this, let me put it all together for you.

00:05:39.000 What seems more likely?

00:05:41.000 U.S.

00:05:41.000 Special Forces are already in Gaza, engaged in operations which will result in the removal of Hamas, by which then the U.S.

00:05:48.000 wants to send more U.S. 0.99

00:05:50.000 troops into Gaza.

00:05:52.000 Well, how are you guys doing?

00:05:54.000 I'm thinking about Vietnam, because I saw that word peacekeeper, and I remember they started off the Vietnam surge of troops by calling them advisors.

00:06:02.000 So there wasn't really a war, wasn't even really considered a military expedition in the 50s.

00:06:06.000 I think it was the late 50s when they started sending their advisors over there.

00:06:10.000 And, you know, it just scaled from there.

00:06:12.000 So it kind of tastes like that.

00:06:15.000 I don't like it.

00:06:15.000 Oh, and I also think that if there's one, if they get all the hostages out, but then there's one left, they'll use that as a reason to send 10,000 guys in, because they just want to conquer the place.

00:06:26.000 They'll just say, oh, there's still 10 Americans whose identities are being remained secret, private, because of the risk to their family, and gotta send in the troops!

00:06:34.000 I mean, that's it.

00:06:35.000 I mean, the U.S.

00:06:36.000 is, here's my fear.

00:06:39.000 I hope None of this happens, but it seems like they're doing these things so that they slowly introduce you into the idea that there will be troops in Gaza.

00:06:49.000 Because, uh, does anybody remember the exact date when the U.S.

00:06:52.000 announced that they were declaring war on Syria and sending troops into Syria?

00:06:55.000 Yeah, most people don't.

00:06:56.000 And I was surprised.

00:06:57.000 At one point, I remember hearing about U.S.

00:06:59.000 I was like, wait, what?

00:06:59.000 troops in Syria.

00:07:00.000 When did we go into Syria?

00:07:01.000 Like, we're in Syria.

00:07:03.000 At first, it was like, there are no troops in Syria.

00:07:05.000 And then like, oh, we actually have bases there now.

00:07:07.000 Yeah, they started as we're just sending them to help with something.

00:07:10.000 It's sort of almost a humanitarian effort that we sent our military to take care of.

00:07:14.000 And then it just escalates to being like, well, we need to always have a presence there because without without us, what would they do?

00:07:19.000 I mean, this is the thing that bothers me the most about the way the American government leans on its military, which is to say we can send troops to all kinds of places across the world, but we do not send them to the border, which protects our own citizens.

00:07:31.000 Right.

00:07:31.000 We gotta stop being everything to everybody or stop trying to be everything to everybody.

00:07:35.000 We can be everything to everybody here in the U.S.

00:07:38.000 Exactly.

00:07:38.000 That's right.

00:07:39.000 Let's do that.

00:07:40.000 And you know, that's why I'm saying I see all these like, there's like Gen Z videos on TikTok where they're like, we should have free education and free health care and we're spending money. 0.89

00:07:48.000 Or the funny thing is you get this young woman and she's a communist and she's like, Society, like, the current generation is suffering, the economy is terrible, we're living paycheck to paycheck, when we could be having free healthcare and free college, and I'm like, here we go, and then she goes, but instead we're spending it all on the military-industrial complex, and I'm like, deal.

00:08:06.000 Alright, I'll take it.

00:08:07.000 If we stop funding blowing up kids in foreign countries, and then we apply whatever money is left from that into, like, giving medical care to people, like, deal left!

00:08:17.000 You can have that if we all agree to stop doing this.

00:08:20.000 Maybe that's their game, though?

00:08:21.000 The establishment is like, let's stress the American people by blowing up kids, as many kids as possible around the world, till they beg us.

00:08:29.000 We will give you authoritarian control if you stop blowing it.

00:08:32.000 That is actually a technocratic tactic.

00:08:33.000 They want to give us war weariness until we'll say please give us anything but war, including putting people into pods and medicating them.

00:08:40.000 Making them eat the bugs.

00:08:41.000 I think they'll just have a taste for it at that point.

00:08:43.000 They'll be like, but war is so fun and we make so much money off of it.

00:08:45.000 We'll continue on.

00:08:46.000 Yeah, it's back to the FDR, right?

00:08:48.000 The FDR theory, right? 0.72

00:08:49.000 Where he goaded us into World War II by meddling with Japan because he needed it to satisfy his promises of the New Deal. 0.68

00:08:57.000 What was he doing with Japan?

00:08:58.000 Well, he put tariffs and meddled with their trade on steel.

00:09:05.000 There was a lot too.

00:09:06.000 It was, uh, the US is supplying weapons and resources to enemies of Japan and to the Allied forces.

00:09:13.000 Into China?

00:09:14.000 Yeah, and so, I mean, right, over a long enough period of time, if, like, let's say Hannah-Claire and Ian are throwing snowballs at each other, and then I'm making snowballs and handing them to Ian, Hannah-Claire's gonna be like, dude, you're both fighting me. 0.65

00:09:26.000 Yeah, I'll be really mad about it.

00:09:27.000 No, no.

00:09:28.000 I will be honest.

00:09:29.000 All I do is make snowballs.

00:09:30.000 Yeah, he's just a guy, I know.

00:09:33.000 And meanwhile, like, last night, there was a viral clip of a veteran that was crying, sitting in his car, talking about the fact that, you know, the VA was... VA health benefits, right?

00:09:42.000 Yeah.

00:09:43.000 I mean, we have veterans here that, you know, there's an increasing rise on veteran suicides and their mental health and the care that they receive from the VA.

00:09:51.000 It's just terrible.

00:09:52.000 I saw that video and I'm like, how do we help this guy?

00:09:55.000 Right?

00:09:55.000 How do we help?

00:09:56.000 And then I'm just like, the problem is, how do you help all of them?

00:09:58.000 Right.

00:09:59.000 You know, I'll tell you, I despise the political elites, the political class so much.

00:10:07.000 And a lot of these very wealthy political dynasty families, and I'm not just talking about like the Clintons or whatever.

00:10:16.000 Oh, there's way more than that.

00:10:18.000 People need to understand.

00:10:20.000 We know the Kennedys, we know the Bushes, we know the Clintons.

00:10:23.000 But there are bureaucrat families.

00:10:25.000 There are mid-level manager type families that live in these wealthy areas, and their families are all getting in government, and they hate you.

00:10:32.000 They use your children as cannon fodder, and then, what do you get?

00:10:36.000 Your sons and daughters coming back to this country, and they're told to go F themselves, left to cry in their cars because they can't get any medical care.

00:10:45.000 And then, they take more of your money and your labor, and they go blow up kids with it.

00:10:50.000 I mean, I've never seen a president campaign on, I will fix the VA.

00:10:54.000 The VA historically has all kinds of administrative problems, but it's just sort of like, oh, I love the troops, see you guys when I see ya, even though we offer this healthcare system that is always fundamentally broken, right?

00:11:05.000 I've never heard of a veteran who doesn't eventually have an issue along the way.

00:11:09.000 saying that there aren't VA doctors, VA systems that are trying their best, it's just incredibly

00:11:13.000 difficult. I don't understand why we don't hear more about fixing our own domestic support systems

00:11:18.000 rather than constantly saying, well, we've got to have this presence on the geopolitical stage.

00:11:23.000 Like, why? I'd rather be present in our own nation. I get when Ben Shapiro comes out and he says,

00:11:29.000 here is my argument for war, like not for war, but like why war is happening.

00:11:34.000 He's like, Israel didn't start it. 0.55

00:11:36.000 I don't know if he says we, but Israel didn't start it. 0.82

00:11:38.000 Hamas starts it, this current round. 0.95

00:11:40.000 I know there's generational conflict here, but I get it.

00:11:42.000 Ben Shapiro says, Israel is justified in doing these things for these reasons. 1.00

00:11:45.000 And I'm like, oh, that's really interesting.

00:11:47.000 Why is the U.S.

00:11:47.000 involved in this?

00:11:48.000 Why?

00:11:50.000 Who in this country I mean, Ben Shapiro obviously thinks the U.S.

00:11:54.000 needs to be involved to prevent destabilization of the region, eventually World War III.

00:11:59.000 I get his arguments.

00:12:00.000 I would argue the inverse.

00:12:02.000 I don't know which one is more likely to happen, but the U.S.

00:12:05.000 sending troops into Gaza sounds like you're going to get, I don't know, Houthi rebels in Yemen and Iranian-backed militias directly attacking Israeli-like territory.

00:12:16.000 I mean, the U.S.

00:12:17.000 going in Maybe the hope is that it will be such a massive shock to the rest of these countries, it will stop them from doing anything.

00:12:25.000 If the U.S.

00:12:26.000 is in Israel, they're gonna be like, we can't go to war with the U.S.

00:12:29.000 Yeah, I get that feeling of like, wow, if they finally take over, then it's gonna be done, we don't have to worry about it anymore.

00:12:36.000 That's just not the way it works, man.

00:12:37.000 Blowback is generational. 0.99

00:12:39.000 You kill all those people, you'll see their families and their friends for tens of hundreds of... What is the U.S. 0.99

00:12:45.000 gonna do? 1.00

00:12:45.000 Occupy Gaza for 20 years? 1.00

00:12:47.000 I mean, I joked almost when I said, make it the 51st state.

00:12:50.000 Now I'm seeing things like they want to colonize.

00:12:54.000 It's funny because the way you phrase making Gaza the 51st state, everyone's just like, the process there is impossible.

00:13:02.000 And then it was funny because I was like, what, Ian, are we going to send troops into Gaza and spark World War III?

00:13:07.000 And now Biden's like, we should send troops into Gaza.

00:13:08.000 And I'm like, Not to mention the acute impact, right?

00:13:16.000 You're stretching America's military thin.

00:13:18.000 And as we're seeing right now, there's probably sleeper cells all over the country.

00:13:23.000 And how are we going to defend ourselves?

00:13:25.000 I mean, it's, you know, the way I say it is like, you know, you can't go to your neighbor's house and chastise them for a dirty kitchen.

00:13:31.000 when your kitchen's terribly distraught, right?

00:13:34.000 And it's not about just the cleanliness, it's about being able to feed and clothe

00:13:37.000 and everything else that comes along when having a kitchen.

00:13:40.000 I mean, it's a decent analogy, but at the end of the day,

00:13:43.000 we're not even keeping our own house clean and we're meddling everywhere else.

00:13:46.000 You ever see those stories about the people on Facebook who have to monitor political content

00:13:51.000 and rule violations?

00:13:53.000 There's a couple different versions of the story.

00:13:56.000 One is like people see horrifying murder and stuff and they're traumatized and they quit.

00:14:00.000 But there was another story where it's like a couple of them

00:14:02.000 where these people are working in politics in the like, we gotta get rid of fake news

00:14:06.000 and we gotta get rid of, you know, like rule breaks, people breaking the rules

00:14:10.000 and they started turning right wing.

00:14:12.000 Because they started seeing these memes and then they kept seeing them over and over and over again as they're supposed to be policing and banning these stories.

00:14:18.000 They end up seeing a whole bunch of stories and then eventually they're like, Trump's right.

00:14:21.000 Yeah.

00:14:21.000 And so I'm just hoping that, you know, like Hezbollah and Hamas, they send in these, and Iran, they send these sleeper cells into the United States 20 years ago.

00:14:29.000 And then they're like, they show up and cross the border and they're like, when our time comes, the infidels will pay. 1.00

00:14:34.000 And now it's like 20 years later and they're morbidly obese and on TikTok and they're going to pride parades and stuff.

00:14:38.000 And watching Marvel movies.

00:14:40.000 Yeah, watching Marvel movies.

00:14:41.000 I'm hoping the indoctrination went the other direction with them and they've just been like, what were you complaining about?

00:14:46.000 This is great.

00:14:47.000 I wouldn't be surprised that it does happen sometimes.

00:14:49.000 And to segue on that, you know, I remember seeing that story.

00:14:53.000 And one of the things that I took away was that the Facebook people that were monitoring these nasty memes or whatever, they were seeing all this traumatizing footage.

00:15:02.000 They're getting better medical care and mental health care than our troops, right?

00:15:05.000 Yeah.

00:15:06.000 You're a veteran of the Air Force.

00:15:07.000 Like, what's the system?

00:15:08.000 What's the status of the VA?

00:15:09.000 What's the problem?

00:15:10.000 And I guess if you think solutions.

00:15:12.000 I don't know personally.

00:15:13.000 I've never sought VA benefits after the service.

00:15:17.000 I probably could for certain things, but I just never did.

00:15:19.000 I just always felt like there's guys and women that were worse off than me.

00:15:24.000 But I do have some friends that work for the Veterans Administration, and I can tell you that You know, they communicated to me and from veteran friends.

00:15:30.000 There was a pretty distinct difference when Trump was in office because he broke the bureaucracy.

00:15:35.000 He actually created a mechanism in which the VA doctors could be held accountable.

00:15:40.000 And before it was kind of like the Fauci thing, you know, he can do whatever he wants, he's not an elected official, so on and so forth.

00:15:46.000 And, you know, Trump came in and changed that paradigm and a lot of veterans were getting better service.

00:15:51.000 But, you know, with Biden now, I mean, I'm And he reverted everything within days of being in office.

00:15:57.000 Do we need a private company to rival the VA and do it better?

00:16:01.000 I mean, I wouldn't argue that.

00:16:02.000 I think veterans are pretty simple.

00:16:05.000 We don't want much.

00:16:06.000 We just want health care.

00:16:08.000 We want the benefits that we signed up for, right?

00:16:10.000 And I don't have all that trauma.

00:16:12.000 I can't.

00:16:12.000 No PTSD.

00:16:13.000 I don't have any of that.

00:16:14.000 But I have friends that do.

00:16:15.000 And it's come to the point where they're seeking care on their own.

00:16:20.000 They're doing different things.

00:16:22.000 I don't think that's necessarily bad, right, to have alternative ways to intervene.

00:16:28.000 I just think the issue is when, you know, you're being told, we don't know when we can see you, we have crazy delays or programs where if you come, you know, you have to be shipped to a different VA to have some sort of treatment and then you don't have the support in that area.

00:16:41.000 It's not that any medical system in the U.S.

00:16:44.000 is so great, but in this case, one of the things that especially young men in America are told is if you sign up and serve, you will have this resource for a long time.

00:16:54.000 Your family will have this resource.

00:16:55.000 And we know the VA is okay with offering veterans children's hormones, but they can't always get counselors in place for veterans who need it for PTSD treatment.

00:17:03.000 I mean, the priorities of the VA seem very strange to me.

00:17:07.000 And again, I want to believe in good faith that there are people who are really trying to do as much as they can, and that the bureaucracy is holding them back.

00:17:13.000 But it's hard to say.

00:17:14.000 We need more, in my opinion, more experimental treatment in the VA.

00:17:17.000 Like MDMA therapy and things.

00:17:18.000 Absolutely.

00:17:19.000 Because the wars that we're experiencing are experimental wars with experimental technology.

00:17:23.000 Like, bombs are a new technology.

00:17:25.000 They kill everything in the vicinity.

00:17:27.000 They don't discriminate.

00:17:28.000 To see that would... I mean, the brain is not... I don't think the brains are built for that yet.

00:17:33.000 Well, no, I agree, right?

00:17:35.000 I love that scene in the movie Snatch.

00:17:36.000 You guys ever watch that movie?

00:17:38.000 With Jason Statham and who else is in that?

00:17:40.000 There's a bunch of guys.

00:17:41.000 It's a Guy Ritchie movie.

00:17:42.000 And in the beginning, you got that scene where Turkish is talking to his buddy and his buddy's like, you shouldn't drink milk.

00:17:47.000 It's out of sync with evolution.

00:17:48.000 And then he explains that like humans evolve eating like he's playing the paleo diet, basically.

00:17:52.000 But to shift that to your point, Ian, humans did not develop over thousands of years seeing like dozens of people get limbs blown off all in an instant.

00:18:04.000 No, I get it.

00:18:04.000 War existed and there was brutal stuff and people being hit and people dying and there's gore and stuff.

00:18:11.000 Yeah, bombs.

00:18:12.000 Like, regular old bomb.

00:18:14.000 Like, grenades are out of sync with evolution.

00:18:16.000 Humans witnessing that stuff is well beyond what humans, you know, grew to ever experience.

00:18:21.000 I felt, I was walking through New York City one day and I just felt a demolition.

00:18:25.000 Five, six blocks away.

00:18:26.000 The entire earth shook.

00:18:28.000 I still feel it in my gut when I think about it.

00:18:31.000 I had a buddy that, to your point too, when you come out of the military, you're used to a community of structure and camaraderie.

00:18:40.000 And a lot of these veterans just want support.

00:18:42.000 They just want to have an outlet that isn't their family.

00:18:46.000 So they're not placing this emotional burden on them.

00:18:49.000 And, you know, to some of these, you know, holistic treatment types, I have a friend, Nick, Nick Matson, who's a double Purple Heart recipient, burnt over like 90% of his body.

00:19:01.000 I just posted a thing about him on Twitter today.

00:19:03.000 Absolute hero.

00:19:04.000 And this guy, you know, struggled with the VA for years, was terrified to come out of his home.

00:19:09.000 He had so much trauma from a PTSD standpoint, but the guy found his way.

00:19:13.000 And, you know, he's doing great today, but, you know, just seeing the things that he had to go through, it's just, it's horrific.

00:19:21.000 If the American public understood some of the things these veterans are going through and in exchange for what they're asking for, I mean, this is an easy decision.

00:19:30.000 I wonder if we should have, maybe like, what's a good age?

00:19:34.000 15?

00:19:35.000 Sophomore year of high school?

00:19:37.000 Make these teens actually watch war footage?

00:19:40.000 Real war footage?

00:19:42.000 Actually watch and see what it's like.

00:19:46.000 And then when it comes time to vote again, when they're older, they're going to be like, no, no, please, no.

00:19:51.000 I'm sorry, man.

00:19:52.000 The idea that we got to shelter our kids from the harsh realities of war means they grow up completely oblivious to it and then vote for it because they have no idea.

00:20:01.000 But imagine if there was a young kid Who actually witnessed something, you know, like the challenge is you don't want to break, you want to make.

00:20:10.000 And you never know if you're going to make or break someone with something, but there's too many people who don't understand what they're voting for when they vote for war, when they celebrate war.

00:20:19.000 And they're volunteering you all to go and do it, not them.

00:20:23.000 They're going to vote for war.

00:20:24.000 They're not going to go fight it.

00:20:25.000 They want our men and women in uniform to go do these things.

00:20:29.000 And then when they come back, it's like, I forgot about it.

00:20:31.000 Well, I just read that in Ukraine, the draft age has been raised again, I think, and the average Ukrainian male fighter is 43 years old.

00:20:39.000 43 years old?

00:20:41.000 Average?

00:20:42.000 Yeah, they're pulling people off trains.

00:20:45.000 Apparently, there'll be like a 50-something year old guy in a train, and they'll walk in and grab him, and be like, nope, front line.

00:20:48.000 And they just send him right to the front line, hand him a gun, and say, good luck.

00:20:51.000 So I'm with you on exposing people to the horror ahead of time, but then I also still want people to volunteer for the military because we need domestic defense.

00:20:58.000 And I think, I'm not sure what you think, maybe the balance is.

00:21:00.000 Yeah, but look...

00:21:02.000 So I used to work at this office and their hiring practice was to put up fake ads for what the job is.

00:21:10.000 This is what all these nonprofits do.

00:21:11.000 They call it campaign work.

00:21:13.000 They say, work on campaigns to save the forests or whatever.

00:21:16.000 And then what happens is when you come in for the interview, they say, oh, you know, you'll be filling out forms and talking to people about what you believe.

00:21:23.000 And they go, okay, then you bring in for another meeting.

00:21:25.000 And then they finally land on You're gonna be asking people for money?

00:21:28.000 Strangers in the street.

00:21:30.000 And they're like, the reason we do this is because if we tell people what the job is, they won't show up.

00:21:35.000 And I'm like, so you think it makes more sense for me to interview 50 people of which 49 leave instead of just waiting for the one guy to show up who wants to do the job?

00:21:47.000 And so, that's my view with, you know, with the military in this regard.

00:21:51.000 Obviously, you don't want to shock young people in horrifying ways, but they do need to be aware of what it really means to be, you know, to be in the armed forces, to be combat infantry, and what it means to vote for it, and then perhaps the people who volunteer, the people who truly understand what they're signing up for.

00:22:09.000 Yeah, I mean, I feel this would be the most helpful in high schools in blue areas, right?

00:22:14.000 I mean, in my personal experience, you know, I grew up in Connecticut, Blue State.

00:22:18.000 My brother enlisted in high school to be in the Marine Corps, and his high school fought him tooth and nail the entire way.

00:22:23.000 He was 18 all of his senior year, so he could be enlisted, but they were like, no, don't you want to go to college?

00:22:28.000 Don't you want to do this thing?

00:22:29.000 You have to be over here.

00:22:30.000 You have to do this thing.

00:22:31.000 No military family members themselves, maybe their grandfathers, but there's no actual connection to it.

00:22:36.000 And so there is a idea that that's for someone else to do.

00:22:40.000 That's not for me, that's not my experience.

00:22:42.000 And again, this is an issue I feel very strongly about, but in addition to the combat, in addition to the physical labor that goes into the military, in addition to the impact it has on the family if you choose to get married and get shipped around the U.S., I mean, it's a really serious sacrifice.

00:22:57.000 The other part is that we don't transition people out of the military very effectively.

00:23:00.000 So we don't offer career counseling in a way that people can really say, this is what I did in the military.

00:23:03.000 This is what it looks like in the civilian world.

00:23:05.000 It's a system that we both depend on and are willing to send other people to go fight.

00:23:10.000 But when people are here domestically, we don't think about them.

00:23:13.000 I wonder if a lot of the problems of wokeness and communism and, you know, far left ideology could just be solved by exposing young people to the realities of life.

00:23:24.000 You know, when I see these videos and they're like, we should have free education and free healthcare, I'm like, this person's never had a job.

00:23:30.000 When they're like, you know there's more empty houses than homeless people, we could house and feed every homeless person, I'm like, this person's never worked with the homeless and they've never owned a house.

00:23:39.000 So, let's expose young people to the realities of life and then have them be like, oh, I was wrong.

00:23:46.000 Yeah.

00:23:47.000 And I think there are young people who grew up and, you know, the reality is it's typically children, teenagers that are growing up in more impoverished, more blue collar areas who have to see what their parents are going through.

00:23:58.000 They're living in a circumstance where they are exposed earlier.

00:24:01.000 It's the and this is not to be mean to them, but it's it's the upper middle class to wealthy teenagers in America who are in super progressive schools, especially super progressive private schools, Who then go on to say, I know better than everyone else on the face of the earth because I know who's oppressed and I know what the word colonizer means that I support that group. 0.55

00:24:18.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

00:24:19.000 It's very out of touch, but it's not true universally.

00:24:21.000 It's just it's true in places with influence.

00:24:24.000 I'm a living example of that.

00:24:25.000 You know, I grew up in a blue collar family.

00:24:27.000 I grew up in Toledo, Ohio.

00:24:30.000 One of the worst, the worst neighborhood in my district.

00:24:33.000 And you know, my dad worked at Toledo Jeep, built cars for a living.

00:24:37.000 And you know, I didn't have a choice when I got out of high school.

00:24:42.000 And to your point, you know, if I would have known more about college, I would have started college earlier.

00:24:47.000 And nobody was there to teach me.

00:24:48.000 I'm the first grandkid to ever graduate from college.

00:24:51.000 Oh, I hate college, though.

00:24:51.000 College is a scam.

00:24:52.000 Oh, it is.

00:24:53.000 Absolutely.

00:24:53.000 I'm with Randy Marsh on this one.

00:24:54.000 I just watched South Park Pandaverse.

00:24:56.000 We watched it earlier today.

00:24:57.000 I love it when they're like, college is a scam, and they try to fire a catapult into it.

00:25:02.000 It was the I recommend South Park the Pandaverse.

00:25:05.000 It's really good.

00:25:05.000 It's not just about wokeness.

00:25:07.000 It's about The failures of the economy and they roast the they roast communists.

00:25:13.000 So so well Anyway, it's the color revolution man, but you know back to what I was saying with with being blue-collar, right?

00:25:21.000 You're not having a choice when I got out of the you know out of high school What path was I going to take you know?

00:25:26.000 I had a very strict Really strict father and military just became clear as my only choice and absolutely love the country I've always been patriotic and you know, it seemed like this was my path at least four years I could start off somewhere and you know Growing up watching my dad work 12 16 hour shifts every day coming home couldn't coach the baseball team You know things like that, you know, it it really had an impact on me So, you know after the military, you know, my dad and I couldn't sit in the same room and not agree that these walls are gray

00:25:58.000 You know, but after the service, coming home, had a proud dad, you know, became really good friends and, you know, the military, you know, changed my life.

00:26:05.000 But to your point, Tim, if I would have known about certain things at an earlier age, I would have made different life decisions.

00:26:10.000 But yeah, I think college has become a lot more of a scam since the Internet, because before it was a good place to go congregate with geniuses and learn about data.

00:26:20.000 But now it's so obsolete.

00:26:23.000 In my opinion.

00:26:23.000 Maybe for certain things it's worth going.

00:26:25.000 When it became a money machine.

00:26:26.000 That's what I think.

00:26:28.000 You know, the argument I often would hear from people back in the day about college is, it's where you go to congregate with other like-minded individuals and work on ideas.

00:26:36.000 And I'm like, but I've been doing that my whole life.

00:26:38.000 And then you look at, without naming any of these individuals, there are certain people would call them prodigies.

00:26:44.000 You know, young people who were in certain fields succeeding at early ages, but the reality was, these people would go out, they were online when they were like 12 or 13, and they were in physics forums, talking with physicists, and then people were like, wait a minute, this kid's 15?

00:26:58.000 The person who was helping us theorize these things is a kid?

00:27:01.000 And they're like, oh, he's a prodigy.

00:27:02.000 It's like, no, he was just...

00:27:04.000 In this space and exposed to it and contributed the guy who built and developed Minds.com the company that I co-founded with Bill Ottman seems Mark Harding He's the CEO and he was 17 when he started building it, but he just learned it all online You just look copy paste read the data.

00:27:20.000 This is means that this means that and he just I think universities made sense when they were about getting people in places to discuss ideas and advance academic knowledge.

00:27:29.000 That was great.

00:27:30.000 But right now, college is actually just an extension of high school, right?

00:27:34.000 I mean, it's unusual.

00:27:36.000 It's the American university system where you're having assignments to turn in every week or stuff like that.

00:27:41.000 That was not how these institutions were founded.

00:27:43.000 You're supposed to come up with a thesis that you work on for four years and that's all you do.

00:27:46.000 And now we have general education classes and this, that, and the other, and it's ultimately all to make money.

00:27:52.000 with especially government-backed student loans that they still issue even though we know it's setting up millions of students every year for complete financial ruin.

00:28:01.000 And so ultimately it's marketing this idea that you will get a better job, you'll have something else because of the degree, but the degree doesn't actually make you a better thinker.

00:28:10.000 It just tells you that you can comply with the rules set out for you, which I don't personally think is a value that I want to instill.

00:28:17.000 So the South Park Pandiverse episode that everyone's been talking about, it's marketed as the characters are replaced by diverse women.

00:28:21.000 So Cartman is a black woman now. 0.99

00:28:22.000 But there's an A story and a B story.

00:28:23.000 you should be expanding your intellectual curiosity and pursuing your interests.

00:28:27.000 And that's not what happens in the universities anymore.

00:28:29.000 So the South Park Pandiverse episode that everyone's been talking about,

00:28:33.000 it's marketed as the characters are replaced by diverse women. 0.98

00:28:37.000 So Cartman is a black woman now, but there's an A story and a B story. 0.99

00:28:41.000 And the B story is that no one knows how to do anything.

00:28:44.000 And so Randy Marsh, Stan's dad, the stove breaks.

00:28:47.000 And he's like, I'm gonna show you kids how to fix the stove, the stove door.

00:28:50.000 So he calls the handyman and then the handyman's like, well, I'm going to have to come back later.

00:28:54.000 You're, you know, the, the, the screws are stripped.

00:28:56.000 And he's like, wait, I'll pay you more money to stay and fix it now.

00:28:58.000 And he goes, ah, someone already paid me more money to go fix theirs now.

00:29:01.000 So what happens is all the, all the handyman ended up becoming billionaires.

00:29:05.000 And then when none of the regular people can get their light bulbs fixed or their power outlets fixed or anything fixed, they start blaming the billionaires because the handymen are all billionaires.

00:29:16.000 And then they start holding up, we are the 99% signs.

00:29:18.000 They're saying capitalism has failed.

00:29:20.000 They're like, all these billionaires are withholding their access to this work and we can't get anything fixed now.

00:29:25.000 It's their fault.

00:29:26.000 Capitalism's failed us.

00:29:27.000 And I'm just like, It's really, really funny because it exemplifies so much of what the left complains about, especially young people.

00:29:34.000 They're just like, if they can't have it right away, it's the rich person's fault.

00:29:39.000 Yeah.

00:29:39.000 It also highlights the value of artisanry.

00:29:41.000 And like, before, you were lucky to find someone that knew how to forge a steel sword.

00:29:46.000 You had to spend time with that person.

00:29:48.000 Now, we're in a point in history where it's all available.

00:29:51.000 If you want to become a plumber, you can figure it out.

00:29:53.000 But if all this power goes out, You're not gonna, you're gonna have to find a plumber to learn, or just trial and error.

00:29:59.000 Books.

00:30:00.000 Maybe books if you have access to them, if you're lucky, and maybe you had one, and there's still a library standing.

00:30:04.000 Well, so that was a funny part of the show, is that they basically, spoiler alerts I guess, they're just like, the real problem was college.

00:30:11.000 Randy's like, if I didn't spend eight years getting a PhD in geology, I'd know how to actually fix things and do work!

00:30:16.000 And then I'd be rich!

00:30:18.000 And so they go and start protesting the colleges, it's good, it's really good.

00:30:21.000 Well, I'm like, what do you want out of life, right?

00:30:23.000 If you want to make a certain amount of money so you can have a career you like and then also pursue your interests and, you know, start new businesses or travel or whatever else, going to college doesn't actually make sense.

00:30:33.000 You're going to massive amount of debts.

00:30:35.000 You don't have the guarantee of a job.

00:30:36.000 You should look at trades.

00:30:37.000 You should look at all kinds of other things.

00:30:39.000 Where it takes less initial investment, you're able to, if you have to take out a loan, pay it off much faster.

00:30:44.000 And then also you have the option to work in a variety of settings.

00:30:47.000 This is the thing about, you know, and I got my bachelor's in English.

00:30:51.000 I feel comfortable saying this.

00:30:52.000 Who knows what I was going to do with that?

00:30:54.000 What does that even mean?

00:30:55.000 Like, what's a bachelor's in English?

00:30:56.000 Well, the bachelor's degree is just the, like, four-year degree.

00:30:58.000 No, I get it.

00:30:59.000 For English, it's English literature.

00:31:00.000 So I can tell you a lot about poetry.

00:31:02.000 I can write some interesting essays.

00:31:03.000 My second one, I had two degrees.

00:31:04.000 The second one was in communication studies.

00:31:05.000 And so you took basic classes in communication theory.

00:31:07.000 Some, like, public relations stuff.

00:31:09.000 It worked out.

00:31:10.000 It's fine.

00:31:10.000 If we open a poetry store, do you think it would do well?

00:31:12.000 I'm in.

00:31:13.000 Slam poet.

00:31:14.000 Well, that was the thing.

00:31:15.000 When I reached the end of my four-year degree, they were like, would you like to work for Teach for America?

00:31:19.000 And I was like, I don't want to be a teacher.

00:31:21.000 She's a highly articulated communicator, though. 0.99

00:31:23.000 Absolutely.

00:31:24.000 I already knew how to talk beforehand, right?

00:31:26.000 I could have spent four years reading the news, doing something else.

00:31:30.000 I'm grateful for college.

00:31:31.000 You know, I had a good experience because I liked being in class.

00:31:34.000 I liked learning.

00:31:35.000 But do I think it's worth the investment?

00:31:37.000 No.

00:31:37.000 See, I reject this, right?

00:31:38.000 This is one of the arguments I've heard a lot from people when they're like, I think college was good for me.

00:31:42.000 And I'm like, you don't know if it was good for you, because you don't know what you would have done if you didn't do it.

00:31:46.000 And to be honest, the things that I tell people about college is that I was really grateful to go to a different environment.

00:31:50.000 I would call it in Texas.

00:31:52.000 It's, you know, more Bible Bell, I was around people, very different people socially.

00:31:55.000 And that was interesting.

00:31:56.000 That was that was a had a profoundly positive impact on my life.

00:32:01.000 But It's not to say that college is the reason I am where I am today.

00:32:06.000 I'd argue it holds you back.

00:32:07.000 And this is what I would say to a lot of people I knew in their mid-twenties or whatever.

00:32:10.000 They're like, I went to college and I'm doing all right.

00:32:12.000 And I'm like, look, man, I'm not trying to be a dick to you, but you're a shift supervisor at a Starbucks making $15 an hour and you're 25. 0.71

00:32:20.000 Okay.

00:32:20.000 There are people who have started their own businesses by the time they were 22.

00:32:24.000 I know people who became managers of fast food restaurants by the time they were 23 and they're making, you know, 40,000 a year.

00:32:31.000 I'm not trying to be it.

00:32:32.000 You know, it's like you don't want to be a dick to someone who's like, I think I'm doing all right, because you want to cheer them on.

00:32:36.000 But it's like, look, man, we can't keep encouraging people to stunt their lives by going to college instead of learning how to actually work in ways that can benefit their fellow man.

00:32:47.000 It's not the only option.

00:32:48.000 And that's the thing that I think American high schools get wrong, which is that they they use the statistics of how many people matriculate to college to say that we are a really good high school.

00:32:56.000 But that's a bad that's a bad statistic.

00:32:58.000 You might as well say our graduating class is entering multi-million dollars worth of debt.

00:33:02.000 Do you think we are a good high school?

00:33:04.000 That would be a more accurate way of representing what they think students can accomplish.

00:33:07.000 It's making me think of a question for you, JR, about knowing how valuable trades are and the ability to build.

00:33:13.000 You were project management for energy companies, or at least one in particular.

00:33:16.000 What company?

00:33:17.000 First Energy.

00:33:17.000 For First Energy, you developed, you know, you're saying a campus at one point, or you've designed.

00:33:22.000 What made you decide to pivot away from that into politics?

00:33:24.000 Well, it kind of goes back to where I started.

00:33:27.000 So I started in the union at the power plants, and the barrier to management for me was a degree.

00:33:32.000 It was a prerequisite in the power industry.

00:33:35.000 So I ended up finishing my master's degree.

00:33:37.000 I was a really hard worker, and I caught the attention of the site vice president when Davis-Bessey Nuclear Power Plant in Ohio had the reactor head incident.

00:33:45.000 And, you know, I just was a hardware and a lot of it comes from what Tim saying, right?

00:33:50.000 You apply your hard work ethic, but then you supplement that with the knowledge that you gain from college.

00:33:55.000 I went to college late in life.

00:33:56.000 I didn't go right after high school.

00:33:58.000 That was a service.

00:33:59.000 So, you know, The pivot for me, though, to politics was COVID.

00:34:04.000 I was traveling the country 200 some days a year.

00:34:07.000 I was working at different nuclear reactors across the country, and COVID had me working out of a home office, and I became politically active because of Donald Trump.

00:34:15.000 My dad was a lifelong Democrat, and he was a huge Donald Trump fan, and he talked me into paying more attention to Trump, and I did.

00:34:25.000 The long story short is in 2020, a veterans group and I that I support, I painted the Trump 2020 logo on my big, big yard on Lake Erie and it went viral.

00:34:36.000 I was on Fox and Friends and then I got a call from President Trump.

00:34:39.000 Wow.

00:34:42.000 Yeah, it just grew from there.

00:34:43.000 And I ended up developing a decent Twitter following for a guy from Northwest Ohio.

00:34:49.000 And when I watched what happened during the 2020 election, and I watched what was going on in my district, you know, 40-year Democratic incumbent doing nothing for us, I decided that I was going to use the political capital that I gained and just shake some trees.

00:35:01.000 It was a Democratic plus 12 district.

00:35:03.000 I had no chance in hell to win.

00:35:05.000 But luckily, right before the primary election, they redistricted.

00:35:11.000 The district flipped to a Republican plus 2.9.

00:35:15.000 And here I am, the candidate.

00:35:17.000 I beat two elected officials, state elected officials, absolutely demolished them.

00:35:21.000 And I was on my way to running the general election.

00:35:23.000 So the pivot for me was just becoming aware of what was going on in American politics and knowing that I grew up in poverty, I grew up in a struggle, and what I was seeing happening by these oligarchs and these wealthy folks, it just didn't make sense.

00:35:40.000 Let's pull up this story.

00:35:42.000 We have this poll from Quinnipiac.

00:35:44.000 This one's got people all hot and bothered.

00:35:47.000 2024 presidential race stays static in the face of major events.

00:35:51.000 Quinnipiac University National Poll finds RFK Jr.

00:35:54.000 receives 22% as independent candidate in three-way race.

00:35:58.000 Now, the interesting thing here is that with the independent candidate, they say that Joe Biden wins.

00:36:03.000 They say, well, let me just pull up the actual Quinnipiac here from 538.

00:36:07.000 They say, Actually, it looks like, if they include Cornel West, but Joe Biden gets 39%, Trump gets 36, and Kennedy gets 22.

00:36:18.000 Now, a lot of people are responding, especially Trump supporters, being like, what?

00:36:21.000 Who that?

00:36:21.000 22%?

00:36:23.000 Are you polling?

00:36:24.000 Now, Quinnipiac also has this poll, including Cornel West.

00:36:27.000 I love it.

00:36:28.000 If Cornel West runs, apparently Trump still loses.

00:36:32.000 Okay, wait, hold on a minute.

00:36:36.000 I'm like, it's really funny when they put both of these metrics out at the same time.

00:36:40.000 Okay, so it's Biden, Trump, Kennedy on the ticket.

00:36:43.000 Kennedy gets 22%.

00:36:45.000 But if you add Cornel West, someone pulls one point away from Donald Trump.

00:36:52.000 Are they implying Cornel West will take 1% of Trump's voters?

00:36:56.000 Cornel West, he's super far left, right? 0.97

00:36:59.000 I mean, that's ridiculous. 0.93

00:37:00.000 He's according to the same demographic as Trump, 100%. 0.97

00:37:03.000 Sure!

00:37:04.000 It's a ridiculous idea that Trump would lose because of West and Kennedy. 0.59

00:37:09.000 And when you look at all the other polls, take a look at this one.

00:37:12.000 Redfield-Wilton strategies, Kennedy 10%, Trump wins, 40-38.

00:37:15.000 They have another poll showing it's 35-33 with Kennedy at 10%, probably because they may have Cornel West in there.

00:37:22.000 You have this one from McLaughlin.

00:37:24.000 Biden 35, Trump 38, Kennedy 12, West 2.

00:37:27.000 McLaughlin also has Trump winning.

00:37:29.000 All the other polls, at least Abacus has a tie.

00:37:32.000 So there's one poll showing Trump losing.

00:37:34.000 I guess technically it's a Quinnipiac S2.

00:37:36.000 And then Abacus showing a tie.

00:37:38.000 And the other polls, we've got 1, 2, I believe 3, 4.

00:37:43.000 Four other polls showing Trump wins with Kennedy on the ballot.

00:37:47.000 I don't know for sure, but I'm definitely leaning towards I do not see Trump voters leaving.

00:37:53.000 I'm talking about MAGA.

00:37:55.000 I'm talking about moderate, independent types.

00:37:58.000 I don't see them being like, oh, vote for Kennedy instead of Trump. 0.59

00:38:01.000 Some maybe, but it's mostly going to be Democrats who think Biden can't win and that Biden is horrible, he's corrupt, he's a warmonger, and they're going to vote for Kennedy.

00:38:11.000 I agree.

00:38:12.000 I think Biden's doing all the work for these other candidates right now.

00:38:17.000 In my district in Ohio, it's highly independent, and I see a huge swing for voters driving towards Trump just because of what he's standing for and the fact that he's getting attacked so terribly.

00:38:29.000 They're seeing the reality of politics right now.

00:38:32.000 I heard a Biden speech from, I guess, four years ago.

00:38:35.000 And man, he sounded clear, like a normal guy.

00:38:38.000 And now when you listen to him, it is freakish.

00:38:40.000 He is just tired.

00:38:42.000 It's exponential.

00:38:43.000 You know, it's like the decline accelerates the older you get.

00:38:49.000 So it's a curve straight down.

00:38:50.000 I'm so concerned.

00:38:51.000 I'm torn because I'd like to meet him and help his brain a little bit because he is our commander.

00:38:56.000 But you can't help his brain either.

00:38:57.000 Just listen to him, like let him kind of wake himself up a little bit.

00:39:00.000 Well, and it's degenerative, right?

00:39:02.000 I mean, that's the sad thing about dementia illnesses, right?

00:39:04.000 Like any kind of elderly atrophying, it's not reversible. 0.81

00:39:09.000 It's not coming back.

00:39:11.000 I've seen THC consume amyloid plaque, which is the cause of Alzheimer's, in a microscope.

00:39:16.000 I'd have to continue to look for more data to back that up, but I believe I've seen that.

00:39:20.000 Also, I hear psilocybin helps people in older age.

00:39:22.000 There might be in the future, but right now, we have very little, if any way at all, to slow or stop these progressive degenerative diseases.

00:39:30.000 I don't think that's sad.

00:39:31.000 Stem cells, right to the brain.

00:39:33.000 Yeah, I mean, maybe there's something, and maybe if we're testing them, you know, experimental treatments, you know, giving us an option in the VA, maybe, you know, Biden can have a chance to try this out, but realistically, in the next year, he is not going to suddenly improve, considering we've seen a consistent decline in the last three years.

00:39:48.000 So, if he walked into a chamber, and it would close, Yeah, what's the story now?

00:39:51.000 $40,000 in laundered payments?

00:39:52.000 like 38, would you vote for him?

00:39:53.000 No.

00:39:54.000 If he was healthy like a 30 year old?

00:39:55.000 But he's a Democrat. 0.98

00:39:56.000 He's still evil.

00:39:57.000 He could look 38.

00:39:58.000 Now he's young evil.

00:39:59.000 He would look 38 and I still need him to close the border, which he won't do.

00:40:02.000 He wasn't ever, you know what I mean?

00:40:03.000 Should he get all that Biden money back though from the gap?

00:40:06.000 Yeah, what's his story now?

00:40:08.000 $40,000 in laundered payments.

00:40:11.000 Oh, what's that?

00:40:12.000 Yeah, there's like, so there was a $200,000 payment from his brother.

00:40:17.000 Now apparently there's a report about $40,000 paid directly to Joe Biden, which appears to be laundered from China.

00:40:23.000 Man, I'm glad you brought up the border.

00:40:24.000 It's just, I probably, you guys talk about it a lot.

00:40:27.000 I hope, hopefully it gets talked about a lot.

00:40:29.000 Are they building it up right now?

00:40:30.000 Because it's like, yo, if we're really gonna about to spark a war in the Middle East or like jump into the fire over there, we better have closed borders.

00:40:37.000 Yeah!

00:40:37.000 I mean, at this point... That would make sense, yes!

00:40:40.000 If you were in a dangerous neighborhood, I've said this a hundred times on the show, but if you were in a dangerous neighborhood, you would lock your own front door and instead we're like, no, it's fine.

00:40:47.000 Let's open all of the windows.

00:40:48.000 Let's just pretend like everything is cool.

00:40:50.000 But it's not just that.

00:40:51.000 If you're going to throw a flaming bag of feces at your neighbor's house, You're going to also lock your doors because your neighbor is going to get mad at you.

00:41:01.000 Now I'm not... I guess I can technically say the US is basically doing this because we shouldn't be involved in this stuff anyway.

00:41:06.000 But the US getting involved in all of these conflicts and leaving the back door open...

00:41:13.000 Yeah.

00:41:14.000 And the front door with Canada.

00:41:15.000 I know there are allies, but that doesn't mean Chinese tanks can't just roll through central Canada into Wisconsin.

00:41:22.000 There's no barrier, dude.

00:41:23.000 No.

00:41:24.000 There was a story about a bunch of 20-year-olds, and they just drove down the border and then just turned into the United States.

00:41:31.000 And I think they got in trouble.

00:41:33.000 The Pacific Northwest, yeah.

00:41:34.000 Cause there's no barriers there.

00:41:36.000 No, no.

00:41:36.000 You know, there's just like, it's like the trees are cut and they have drones patrol sometimes.

00:41:40.000 You go to the southern border and it's like some, some areas, you know, there's nothing, but there's a lot of bollard fencing.

00:41:45.000 And then there's patrols that go up and down and you've got the militias down there.

00:41:49.000 Yeah.

00:41:50.000 Didn't we have the Chinese military was caught practicing some drill or performing military drills in Canada last year, if I'm not mistaken?

00:41:57.000 I don't think they were caught.

00:41:57.000 I think that was like a joint effort between Canada and China.

00:42:02.000 Yeah, it seems like the Chinese don't want any military conflict with the U.S.

00:42:05.000 They had Gavin Newsom over there to talk to Xi.

00:42:07.000 I was going to call him Emperor Xi.

00:42:09.000 President Xi.

00:42:11.000 And they were like, we're going to do anything we can to preserve peace between us.

00:42:14.000 I wouldn't put it past them to say that and then declare an invasion.

00:42:18.000 That's like stuff Hitler would have done. 0.82

00:42:19.000 I saw a video of a guy in China eating at, I think it was a Pizza Hut, and they can stuff the crust with hot dogs.

00:42:27.000 And when I saw that, I was just like, we're doomed.

00:42:30.000 And I wouldn't say half kidding.

00:42:32.000 I would say that's 75% a joke.

00:42:35.000 The reality is they are competing with us in a lot of ways that we should be the best at.

00:42:43.000 And I don't literally mean putting hot dogs in pizza.

00:42:45.000 It's just that we're giving up our manufacturing.

00:42:47.000 Only now in the past several years seem to have realized that we've given up the industry and manufacturing we need to maintain an economy.

00:42:54.000 And now you're seeing China's, they're cranking away. 1.00

00:42:58.000 They're burning coal, baby.

00:43:00.000 They're just smogging it up.

00:43:01.000 And by the way, I'm going to interview James Tuer at Rice University, he's the leading graphene scientist on Earth.

00:43:07.000 And they're working on flash jewel graphene, where they hit carbon trash with lasers and can produce this black powder, this stuff.

00:43:13.000 This is the 21st century building material that we'll need to revolutionize our country with.

00:43:17.000 I don't know, though.

00:43:18.000 One of them, probably.

00:43:19.000 Maybe.

00:43:19.000 It's just like the graphene story came out 20 years ago.

00:43:22.000 It was like graphene, the wonder material, 20 years ago.

00:43:25.000 And so we got some cool stuff from it.

00:43:27.000 But, and I wonder, I think it's really gonna come down to the basics.

00:43:30.000 Are we producing steel?

00:43:32.000 Right?

00:43:33.000 Are we?

00:43:34.000 Well I think you can use, you can put this stuff in with like carbonized steel if you're gonna make it and make it stronger and lighter and also with coal, like you were saying we burn coal, you can upscale coal into graphene and burn it cleaner.

00:43:48.000 So there are some, I'm very excited it's gonna be Friday afternoon so keep in touch on my Twitter and you can watch it there.

00:43:54.000 So there you go.

00:43:54.000 It's re-industrialized.

00:43:55.000 Go for it.

00:43:56.000 Oh, I was just saying, I mean, I want to believe in science and innovation.

00:44:01.000 I really do.

00:44:01.000 But I get sort of frustrated with it when ultimately, you know, if graphene is the future, maybe it is.

00:44:08.000 I don't I know nothing about it.

00:44:09.000 But is America going to do something about it or is it going to be China? 0.99

00:44:13.000 Right.

00:44:13.000 Like what country is actually most likely to be ahead in terms of manufacturing these things?

00:44:18.000 And I would assume it's the country where we put all of the manufacturing.

00:44:21.000 And so in some ways, we've hamstringed our own ability to embrace innovation by shipping all of these things overseas.

00:44:28.000 I mean, even if someone in a lab at a university in America comes up with something, ultimately the technology is getting shipped out of the country to develop, in my cynical opinion.

00:44:36.000 I would counter that those would become obsolete factories over there now.

00:44:40.000 We'll start building new ones that focus on flash jewel creation.

00:44:43.000 If we build them here, I'm okay with it.

00:44:44.000 I just don't know that we will.

00:44:46.000 Well that's what we're trying to do in Arizona and places like that where we could actually have these factories.

00:44:49.000 So if that actually happens then a lot of like the reasons for taking Taiwan or protecting Taiwan become secondary to us actually having the factories back in the United States.

00:44:58.000 That's not all manufacturing though.

00:45:00.000 China can still out-manufacture us with raw products, but when it comes to technical manufacturing,

00:45:05.000 yeah, that's going to be huge in the next 20 years.

00:45:07.000 The biggest place we're handicapped in comparison with China is in regulatory framework. I mean,

00:45:12.000 if you look at how our government hyper-regulates not only the industrial side of manufacturing,

00:45:19.000 but then the energy side, right? And that's kind of my wheelhouse, right? And that's why we have

00:45:26.000 the stifling of small modular reactors and you know.

00:45:29.000 We have American innovators that are having to take their technology to Canada and go through the regulatory board there, hoping that the NRC here, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission here, will finally open up the gates and allow them to build SMRs here.

00:45:45.000 We're losing out on every aspect.

00:45:48.000 What's an SMR?

00:45:49.000 Small Modular Reactor.

00:45:50.000 How does that work?

00:45:53.000 You know, it's a mini-reactor that is, you know, mechanically incapable... Small modular reactor!

00:45:58.000 ...of melting down.

00:45:59.000 You can power a small city with a reactor the size of this room.

00:46:03.000 Need no operators.

00:46:04.000 And it can't melt down?

00:46:05.000 Right, cannot melt down.

00:46:07.000 What's the fuel source?

00:46:08.000 Still uranium, but it's a... Too small?

00:46:11.000 ...passive technology.

00:46:12.000 I mean, it doesn't rely on operators.

00:46:15.000 The way it's designed, I'm no physicist or nuclear engineer, but You know, the way I understand it is the recirculation system, the cooling system, they're all, you know, they're all passive and reliant on condensation and the systems working in cohesion with one another.

00:46:32.000 So there's no operator manipulation.

00:46:34.000 What about thorium salt?

00:46:35.000 We've heard a lot about that.

00:46:37.000 I think thorium salt's another awesome opportunity for us that we're just, I mean, there's reactors out there that I mean, there's ways to convert our retired coal plants into thorium salt reactors.

00:46:50.000 Really?

00:46:51.000 Yeah.

00:46:52.000 I used to work for a guy that invented that.

00:46:54.000 His name is Dr. Singh, and he introduced it to our federal government, Department of Energy.

00:47:01.000 Why aren't we doing these?

00:47:02.000 Why are we not doing it?

00:47:04.000 Because the money is not going in the right pockets.

00:47:05.000 It's because of Grant Thunberg, isn't it?

00:47:10.000 In your experience, how has the American public's opinion shifted on nuclear?

00:47:15.000 Because I feel like that's ultimately, if there were people calling for it, eventually someone would do it, right?

00:47:21.000 I mean, they're doing it.

00:47:22.000 The problem is, I mean, there is a specific paradigm around nuclear power.

00:47:28.000 People drive by cooling towers and they think that's the reactor.

00:47:30.000 And a lot of it has to do with the nuclear power plants not having the market over the years.

00:47:34.000 They've been in regulated environments where they know they're going to charge a certain amount per megawatt.

00:47:41.000 You know, and they're going to get paid because people have to turn their lights on.

00:47:44.000 But then when you have different forms of energy that are subsidized by the federal government that undercut the market, then nuclear becomes... Well, I blame the Simpsons.

00:47:54.000 So this is actually true.

00:47:56.000 Simpsons is considered to be a factor, maybe not the biggest, in why there is resistance to nuclear energy.

00:48:01.000 Because people grew up watching this joke of Springfield of mutated fish.

00:48:06.000 Three-eyed fish.

00:48:06.000 Three-eyed fish, Blinky, and Meltdowns, I think, are a theme of a dozen episodes at least.

00:48:12.000 And so people are consuming media and they're believing these things are based on reality.

00:48:17.000 They say, well, every joke has its truth.

00:48:18.000 And it's like, no, look, there's not going to be a nuclear plant so close to you like this.

00:48:22.000 It's not going to blow up.

00:48:22.000 You're not going to die.

00:48:23.000 There are less deaths from nuclear power than from coal.

00:48:27.000 And, like, it's exponential.

00:48:29.000 The nuclear power industry is the safest industry, one of the safest industries in the country.

00:48:33.000 Yeah.

00:48:34.000 Absolutely.

00:48:34.000 What's the biggest misconception about radiation damage?

00:48:36.000 Like, I think what happened is when Chernobyl melted down, it just, what, all the spent nuclear corium or whatever was just there, so it was constantly irradiating the environment.

00:48:47.000 It bursted into the air, and then you had the meltdown, which created the elephant's foot.

00:48:51.000 And then had they been able to extract the corium, then would it have no longer been irradiating and it'd go back to normal?

00:48:56.000 I mean, if you remove the source, yeah, then you would have no radiation.

00:49:00.000 But the problem with Chernobyl was that when it exploded, it sprayed radioactive particulates everywhere, which blanketed down over the region.

00:49:08.000 And when the West was like, hey, Russia, what's going on?

00:49:11.000 They're like, nothing's happening.

00:49:12.000 Everything's fine.

00:49:13.000 And they're like, now we're getting slammed by radiation, like reactive particles.

00:49:17.000 So we know something happened.

00:49:18.000 I was thinking about corium meltdowns.

00:49:20.000 Corium's like the stuff in the middle that when it gets really hot goes and it goes through cement and it'll just keep melting down.

00:49:25.000 If you pour gold into it that it will create act as a superconductor and allow the corium to cool itself off and release the heat.

00:49:31.000 So it'll it'll then it'll harden and then you could extract it.

00:49:34.000 I'm not sure that gamma rays wouldn't pass through that.

00:49:37.000 I mean, if it could be x-rayed, then you can still have, you know, a fission product, I would assume.

00:49:43.000 I mean, the only real shielding mechanism that you're going to have from radiation of that source is going to be water or lead or high-density concrete.

00:49:52.000 It wouldn't be to shield it, it would just be more to extract it so it gets out of its liquid form.

00:49:56.000 Even then, you have to worry about the dose exposure that you're going to get as a human.

00:49:59.000 You can only get so much before your internal organs are going to be liquid.

00:50:02.000 You have to send a robot in to do it.

00:50:04.000 I think the biggest misconception, based on my personal experience, is that

00:50:07.000 you're dealing with gamma wave radiation instead of alpha and beta particles.

00:50:11.000 Right.

00:50:12.000 So this is what I learned when I went to Fukushima.

00:50:14.000 They give you this cloth suit to put on and I was like, is this a joke?

00:50:18.000 And they were like, this is what you have to wear.

00:50:19.000 Why?

00:50:21.000 They're not worried about you getting bombarded by waves that go through everything.

00:50:25.000 They're worried about the particles landing on your skin, which are radioactive, and then you eating them or getting them in your lungs.

00:50:31.000 Yep.

00:50:31.000 So that's an internal source.

00:50:32.000 Yeah, so you wear these cloth suits, and then when you're leaving, you take them off very carefully, they bunch them up and throw them in the garbage.

00:50:40.000 We mentioned thorium salt earlier.

00:50:41.000 Can you really quickly, generally explain what that is, a thorium salt reactor?

00:50:45.000 Oh, that's kind of out of my wheelhouse, but I know that, you know, the thorium salt is essentially heated up probably through the super steam process, and then that kind of creates like a resonating heat source, which then continues to create the super steam, which turns the turbine, right?

00:51:03.000 Isn't that really funny?

00:51:03.000 That's all it is.

00:51:05.000 We pressurize a tube so that it pushes steam, which spins... It's kind of beautiful and simple.

00:51:13.000 I sort of like that, you know?

00:51:15.000 It's a big magnet spin, creates an optical current.

00:51:18.000 There you go.

00:51:18.000 So my other question on nuclear is, what about fusion?

00:51:21.000 And I know these get conflated because they're not even remotely the same process, but they're both called nuclear power, which is kind of weird.

00:51:27.000 But what do you think about fusion?

00:51:28.000 Is that even anything you've ever studied?

00:51:30.000 No, I mean...

00:51:32.000 You know, in my opinion, the future, again, it goes back to the standard way of nuclear fission, right?

00:51:38.000 Just having smaller, more manageable, less scary to the public reactors, things that, you know, take out the human element, because that's really where you've seen these meltdowns or where you've seen these close calls.

00:51:49.000 The general public hasn't been communicated to is like there was always a safety actuation system that stopped the general public from being harmed.

00:51:56.000 There's, you know, what they call defense in depth, there's always like three to four different layers of defense, you know, with these nuclear power plants, at least in the United States, right?

00:52:05.000 Europe has totally different standards.

00:52:06.000 But here in the US, You had Davis-Bessey, you had Three Mile Island.

00:52:09.000 I mean, we were pretty far away from actually having a meltdown, but, you know, when it's communicated to the public, it's all about, you know, scaring them.

00:52:18.000 Have you heard of those nuclear diamond batteries?

00:52:19.000 Where they have, like, spent nuclear fuel, and they put it inside of, like, a diamond, and it just gives you a low pulse of energy?

00:52:25.000 Yeah.

00:52:26.000 Can you explain that real quick?

00:52:27.000 I've heard of them, but I don't know much.

00:52:27.000 I don't know.

00:52:28.000 I don't know much about it.

00:52:29.000 They give you, like, 10,000 years of electricity?

00:52:31.000 Like a phone?

00:52:31.000 Really low?

00:52:33.000 Yeah, things like that.

00:52:34.000 Really, really low charge.

00:52:35.000 And then I guess you could have a lot of them to create a greater charge.

00:52:38.000 But it's actually nuclear waste inside of a diamond.

00:52:41.000 Inside of, like, carbon.

00:52:42.000 That's what we're missing out on is this recycling of spent nuclear fuel.

00:52:46.000 When this nuclear fuel comes out of the reactor, it's only using 5 to 7% of its energy potential.

00:52:51.000 And we have like 86,000 kilograms or whatever of metric tons of spent nuclear fuel sitting in the United States that we're not using.

00:53:01.000 And you have countries like Europe that are Reprocessing and they're reusing their spent nuclear fuel.

00:53:06.000 We're throwing it in canisters and leaving it at the nuclear reactors across the country and that's a multi-billion dollar industry that we could be opening and creating high-paying jobs, high-paying technical jobs for a bunch of people and we're not doing it.

00:53:17.000 And people don't do it because there's a fear of nuclear.

00:53:19.000 Absolutely.

00:53:21.000 Maybe not after tonight.

00:53:22.000 We're changing hearts and minds over here.

00:53:24.000 Nuclear diamonds.

00:53:24.000 Got to.

00:53:25.000 We just need to bring back that guy from the Biden administration, the non-binary guy who kept stealing luggage. 1.00

00:53:30.000 Maybe he can save the day.

00:53:31.000 He'd wear a nuclear diamond ring and become a superhero.

00:53:34.000 That he took from someone else's bag.

00:53:36.000 Let's jump to the story.

00:53:37.000 We've got a couple of political bits to jump on.

00:53:39.000 We have the Postmonial Trump Blasts Attempt to Illegally Remove His Name from Ballot in Colorado on Phony Insurrection Claims.

00:53:47.000 And ladies and gentlemen, we have received a spot in the books of history.

00:53:53.000 At the trial for Donald Trump over whether or not he should be allowed on the ballot, they played this clip, which I will play for you now, of a show you've probably seen with Kash Patel. 1.00

00:54:03.000 I have to wonder, Cash, if everything I said before about people being too stupid, it's in fact that the leadership is as stupid, right? 1.00

00:54:03.000 Here we go. 1.00

00:54:10.000 The leadership is- No, no.

00:54:10.000 Of course!

00:54:12.000 The leadership is evil.

00:54:14.000 There's a distinction.

00:54:15.000 I've worked with all of these people. 0.98

00:54:17.000 They are pure evil.

00:54:19.000 The only thing the Pelosi's and the Schumer's and the like care about in the world is being glorified in the media. 0.55

00:54:25.000 That's it.

00:54:26.000 What's my next headline?

00:54:27.000 What's my next payday?

00:54:28.000 How do I scam the stock market with my husband?

00:54:30.000 How do I come out on top and be Speaker of the House for more than basically a decade?

00:54:33.000 That is the tract that people come in behind them on and say, I want to be the next term.

00:54:37.000 I want to be the next him. 0.62

00:54:38.000 They are evil.

00:54:39.000 That's the problem. 0.73

00:54:40.000 The people that follow them? 1.00

00:54:41.000 Yes, stupid. 1.00

00:54:42.000 Yep, stupid. 1.00

00:54:43.000 And they're evil. 1.00

00:54:44.000 So that was played, that clip.

00:54:46.000 It's funny because as soon as Cash said they're evil, I laughed with myself laughing in the clip in the same way.

00:54:51.000 I thought it was hilarious.

00:54:52.000 And shout out to Phil Labonte for his cameo in the Trump trial.

00:54:56.000 This is the current state of American politics.

00:54:58.000 We have this tweet here.

00:55:00.000 From Dean Phillips, he says, in one graph, this is why I'm running for president.

00:55:04.000 We could be sleepwalking towards disaster.

00:55:07.000 We need an open primary, and I hope other qualified Democrats still jump in.

00:55:10.000 Here it is from Bloomberg News Morning Consult.

00:55:13.000 Trump is leading in five of seven swing states, and Michigan's a tie.

00:55:18.000 So, you've got in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Arizona, and Georgia, Trump is ahead.

00:55:26.000 In Michigan, it's tied.

00:55:28.000 In Nevada, Biden is leading.

00:55:31.000 Altogether, Trump is up by four points.

00:55:34.000 So why are they trying to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado?

00:55:38.000 I think Colorado isn't one of these states, but they want to make sure that the popular vote count is as low as possible for Donald Trump, and they want to cripple him.

00:55:46.000 They want to exhaust his resources and force him into legal battles.

00:55:51.000 The problem, however, is this is basically giving Trump a 24-7 rally.

00:55:58.000 I get it.

00:56:00.000 They're trying to stop him by any means necessary, but it's like a Chinese finger trap problem. 1.00

00:56:04.000 They keep saying, we're going to put him in court.

00:56:05.000 Okay, now the media has got a camera in Trump's face again, letting him say whatever he wants.

00:56:09.000 And it makes me think the people in Colorado whose tax dollars are being spent on this trial, right?

00:56:13.000 Do they look at this and say, yes, this is our biggest priority?

00:56:17.000 If you had told me they were doing something similar in, like, maybe 2016, right?

00:56:20.000 When people were really... 2020, when people were really orange man bad, really freaking out about Trump, maybe I would have said, oh yeah, the average Coloradan feels like this is the most important news.

00:56:29.000 But I don't feel that way, especially post-COVID, and especially since, you know, Denver in particular has been really hard hit by illegal immigration.

00:56:37.000 There are a lot of issues that I'm sure people in Colorado would rather see their government focusing on.

00:56:43.000 And instead, this is what they're being told their government's number one, the legal apparatus of their government's number one priority is right now.

00:56:49.000 That would seem dissatisfactory for me.

00:56:51.000 I don't know how you feel about it.

00:56:52.000 No, I agree.

00:56:52.000 And I think what the American people are seeing is just a spending spree by the Biden administration.

00:56:57.000 To your point, you know, the average everyday American now is paying a lot more attention to what's going on politically.

00:57:03.000 And I think Trump once again resonates with the common American and you know the two-tiered justice system the guy's been on trial since 2016 and you can only run it so many times without people paying some attention and the more they You know the more they see it the more drawn in they are and I just think Trump has put on a master class on how to deal with the media he's put on a master class on how to deal with these court systems and he's very transparent and he speaks his mind and I think people appreciate I know I do

00:57:33.000 He's definitely weathered this, I would say.

00:57:36.000 There's great words to describe it, but very impressively, I would say.

00:57:40.000 His mind is still very clear.

00:57:41.000 I can hear the fatigue, but I mean, God, anyone going through this would be fatigued.

00:57:44.000 I'm just at the Elmo meme phase in this one.

00:57:48.000 You know, the Elmo with fire rising up behind him.

00:57:51.000 That's where I'm at with this.

00:57:52.000 Tim's Halloween costume next year.

00:57:54.000 At this point, I really don't care what Trump says or does. 0.87

00:57:58.000 I just despise these people so much.

00:58:01.000 That I just want Trump to go in and do whatever he wants because it would be the most irritating thing in the world for them.

00:58:07.000 And I know that's how people felt in 2016 and 2020.

00:58:10.000 I didn't feel that way in 2016. 1.00

00:58:11.000 I was like, yeah, it's all stupid. 0.99

00:58:12.000 But there were a lot of people who were looking at Donald Trump as this raging bull and they were laughing like, I hope this guy gets to do it, everyone. 1.00

00:58:19.000 I'm at the point where I'm just like, I am so fed up with these trials, with these lies, the manipulation.

00:58:24.000 I'm just like, can we get two or three Trumps?

00:58:27.000 Can we get the whole Trump family?

00:58:29.000 Can we get... Where is Barron?

00:58:31.000 Where is Barron?

00:58:32.000 I got an idea.

00:58:33.000 We're constantly trying to figure out who the VP is going to be.

00:58:35.000 Trump, Trump.

00:58:36.000 Trump, Trump!

00:58:37.000 I don't care which one it is.

00:58:37.000 Just do it.

00:58:38.000 Can you run with your son?

00:58:40.000 Can your son be your vice president?

00:58:40.000 Why not?

00:58:41.000 Any one of them.

00:58:42.000 Any one of them.

00:58:43.000 As long as they're not from the same state.

00:58:45.000 Trump, Trump.

00:58:45.000 But I don't think they are.

00:58:46.000 Lara Trump.

00:58:47.000 Yeah, well she was North Carolina. 0.85

00:58:49.000 I heard rumors that Lara Trump might seriously consider running in North Carolina because that's where she's from. 1.00

00:58:55.000 She should be VP. 0.98

00:58:56.000 That'd be so interesting.

00:58:56.000 Trump, Trump.

00:58:57.000 Just more Trumps! 1.00

00:58:59.000 These awful people who exploit the system to enrich themselves through the stock market and all this awful garbage. 0.99

00:59:07.000 And then we're watching them lie, cheat, and steal because the American people are finally like, guys, you ripped us off for long enough. 0.97

00:59:14.000 All we're doing now is saying Trump's going to build some border security and we're going to bring manufacturing back.

00:59:19.000 None of these wars.

00:59:20.000 And y'all couldn't even have it.

00:59:22.000 Y'all got away with ripping us off for generations, stealing.

00:59:26.000 These ridiculous stock trading deals, they know what's going on, they're passing the laws, they're introducing them, they are lying, cheating, and stealing, and all we ask is that some dude gets in for eight little old years and gets some border security and brings the manufacturing back, and you said F you to all of us And I'm just like, at this point, I just hope it's Trump 2024, 28, 32, 36, etc.

00:59:50.000 Just never-ending!

00:59:52.000 I'm just so done with it.

00:59:55.000 Have you seen the Mel Gibson meme?

00:59:56.000 Where it's like, me voting for Trump in 2016 is just Mel Gibson smiling, and then me voting for, no, in 2020, and then me voting for Trump in 24, and it's got, you know, Mel Gibson with the Braveheart.

01:00:09.000 That's how the American people feel, man.

01:00:10.000 What is it about Vivek?

01:00:12.000 Do you guys, how do you feel about Vivek?

01:00:13.000 I love him.

01:00:14.000 I do too.

01:00:14.000 I love him.

01:00:15.000 Do you think he, like, do you throw your support behind him?

01:00:18.000 Or would you pick Trump?

01:00:20.000 Do you have a preference?

01:00:22.000 You know, my loyalties to Trump, I think he deserves another four years for all of the reasons we just said.

01:00:28.000 But, you know, Vivek, I met him a few years back when You know, he wasn't running for politics.

01:00:32.000 He spoke at a Lincoln Day dinner locally and took a couple minutes of time to talk to me.

01:00:36.000 And he's a guy from Ohio.

01:00:38.000 I think he's, you know, the young, articulate, strong American dream type of guy that we need.

01:00:45.000 And he's... He could be VP.

01:00:47.000 Great.

01:00:48.000 I think that's what he's...

01:00:48.000 He said he wouldn't take it.

01:00:49.000 He said he wouldn't, but he's probably the best person right now, realistically, in terms of positioning.

01:00:56.000 I would, you know, it is tough to figure out, like, who really would be the best VP, but Vivek, outside of him saying he doesn't want it, probably is best positioned for it.

01:01:05.000 I know his team is, that's their focus, right?

01:01:08.000 Yeah.

01:01:09.000 I mean, I talked to his team.

01:01:11.000 They're great people, right?

01:01:12.000 But I mean, you know, the long game for them, they're supporting Trump.

01:01:16.000 I mean, Vivek is supporting Trump, right?

01:01:17.000 He's never bashed him, but... Vivek's also 38.

01:01:19.000 Yeah, and I think the reality, he knows he's not going to defeat Trump, right?

01:01:23.000 And I think Vivek's intention was to kneecap Ron DeSantis in the debates, and he did a hell of a job doing it.

01:01:28.000 Well, Ron did it to himself.

01:01:29.000 I'm going to say, Ron, I wanted to love you, dude.

01:01:32.000 You went on Patrick Bette David's show.

01:01:33.000 Where have you been?

01:01:34.000 Come on, man.

01:01:35.000 Just relax and sit down and talk to us.

01:01:37.000 Take your shoes off.

01:01:38.000 Don't worry.

01:01:40.000 He's the governor of Florida, in Florida.

01:01:41.000 Patrick Bette David's in Miami.

01:01:45.000 I'll never do this, right?

01:01:46.000 Cenk, you came on the Culture War podcast.

01:01:48.000 I said, thank you.

01:01:48.000 I know you host your own show.

01:01:50.000 Taking time off from your show to do my show is a favor to me.

01:01:52.000 I get it.

01:01:53.000 Ron DeSantis is in Florida.

01:01:54.000 It's easy for him to do PBD.

01:01:56.000 Yeah, but you put in, what would it come to fly out here?

01:01:58.000 You put in like eight tops, 18 hours of work.

01:02:01.000 You're going to get 700,000 hours of product out of it from watch time.

01:02:05.000 I got, I got to be honest.

01:02:06.000 I got to be honest about this.

01:02:08.000 You, I, Patrick, but David is much more brutal than I am.

01:02:12.000 Like, I give people leeway, and some people argue I should not.

01:02:16.000 You know, a lot of people were saying that when Cenk Uygur came on the show, I should have just gone at him way heavier, and they were like, why didn't it pop off?

01:02:22.000 And I was like, I was trying to prevent it from getting into that heated debate.

01:02:26.000 And there were a few points where we talked about George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery, where Cenk got really heated, and I pulled away from it, trying to keep things down.

01:02:34.000 Patrick Bet-David, the way he went after Anthony Weiner, I mean, Ron had to know that PBD is not going to let him walk away from the high heel scandal in this way.

01:02:43.000 I gotta be honest.

01:02:45.000 If Ron came here, I would not drag him.

01:02:47.000 I would not have done it.

01:02:48.000 You wouldn't have had a box of Ferragamo shoes.

01:02:52.000 It was funny.

01:02:53.000 It's a clip.

01:02:54.000 Obviously, his team had planned it.

01:02:55.000 Even the way he's phrasing it.

01:02:57.000 I'm sure you've heard about this thing, like, you know, this scandal about your shoes or whatever.

01:03:01.000 Like, Patrick Davis knew what he was doing.

01:03:03.000 He knew he was going to do it the second, you know, he got DeSantis.

01:03:06.000 It's a different style of show.

01:03:07.000 It's not the way you operate.

01:03:09.000 No one who comes on the show will ever be ambushed like that.

01:03:11.000 And I mean, there's no disrespect to PBD.

01:03:13.000 I think it was masterfully done.

01:03:15.000 And he's pointing out great criticism, but that's just not how we do things.

01:03:18.000 I'm a big fan of the work that he does.

01:03:20.000 I think he's a genius.

01:03:21.000 But it's funny to me seeing that.

01:03:22.000 I'm like, the DeSantis people are banned from coming on this show.

01:03:27.000 But they would choose... By their own team. Right, right.

01:03:29.000 Yeah, we want them on. We want DeSantis and his people to come on, but they've refused. They've

01:03:33.000 told their staff they're not allowed.

01:03:35.000 And then he decided to go on Valuetainment instead, where it's like, yo, that's the frying

01:03:39.000 pan, man. That's like... It's way more hostile. Yeah. It's an example of the poor team that

01:03:43.000 Ron DeSantis has around him. He's in an echo chamber, right?

01:03:46.000 I've met Ron DeSantis before.

01:03:47.000 I liked him before the election, man.

01:03:49.000 I was just thinking, like, this guy, you know, if he would have done what Reagan, you know, did to Barry Goldwater, right?

01:03:55.000 He could have passed the torch, or not passed the torch, but he could have had the torch passed to him on the back end, right?

01:04:00.000 And he didn't do that.

01:04:01.000 And I think Everything about his campaign is a shining example of the consultant class ruining politics.

01:04:08.000 The guy has been in an echo chamber his entire campaign.

01:04:11.000 You can see when he steps out, because when he steps out, that's when he's out of his zone and he makes a lot of mistakes.

01:04:16.000 But man, dude, only if, right?

01:04:18.000 I mean, he would have been the perfect guy in 2028, but now it's too late.

01:04:21.000 No, you know what I really do think?

01:04:23.000 I know I've said it several times in the past couple weeks, but I think the donors went to Ron and convinced him to run to make sure he would not be VP.

01:04:33.000 A Trump-DeSantis ticket is unbeatable.

01:04:35.000 And that's what everyone had been saying the year before.

01:04:39.000 I've talked about, I'm talking to a guy, I'm hanging out at MGM National Harbor, and there's a guy, he's like, I hate Trump, but I can't vote for Biden.

01:04:46.000 And I'm like, what about DeSantis?

01:04:47.000 He's like, oh yeah, I'd vote for DeSantis for sure.

01:04:49.000 And then I say, what if it's Trump-DeSantis?

01:04:52.000 Trump president tends VP, and he goes, Yeah, I'd vote for it.

01:04:55.000 He's like, with DeSantis there, I think I could do it.

01:04:57.000 And I think the establishment saw the writing on the wall that Ron is willing to play ball with whatever's gonna get him the victory.

01:05:04.000 So in Florida, he's going along with core right culture war talking points and he's putting his policies forward and they're like, uh-oh.

01:05:11.000 That means that if he teams up with Trump, he's going to just say yes sir to Trump and he's going to go along with this to try and be successful and build a career up.

01:05:18.000 So they go to Ron and they say, no, no, you should be president.

01:05:21.000 And they're laughing at him behind the scenes.

01:05:21.000 You should run.

01:05:23.000 They're like, this guy's an idiot. 1.00

01:05:24.000 He's actually going to do it. 1.00

01:05:25.000 He thinks he's going to go up against Trump.

01:05:27.000 Oh, I got an idea.

01:05:28.000 Tell him to wear high heels.

01:05:29.000 Tell him to wear high heels.

01:05:30.000 And then don't show him the videos and then send him to PBD on purpose.

01:05:35.000 This is the point.

01:05:37.000 If Cenk Uygur comes on this show, I basically let him speak.

01:05:40.000 We have a little bit of disagreements and arguments, but there's a lot of stuff I could have brought up that we didn't bring up.

01:05:45.000 Because I'm like, I'm trying to actually talk about solutions and keep things tame and calm.

01:05:49.000 Patrick Bet-David, he's much more direct, he's a lot stronger on these things than I am with his point of view.

01:05:56.000 Anybody who knows about his past interviews knows he's not going to let you walk on this one.

01:06:01.000 He's not going to give you the same leeway that I might.

01:06:04.000 I think they sabotaged him on purpose.

01:06:06.000 They brought him to a show and gave him a layup to put a pair of boots on a table.

01:06:14.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:06:15.000 Here we are, friends with some of the people who worked for DeSantis in his campaign.

01:06:21.000 And they can't even come on the show.

01:06:23.000 And I'm like, that's weird, man.

01:06:25.000 Why?

01:06:26.000 We talked to him, we'd actually help, like, hey, let's work through these issues that you're having and figure out ways you can improve.

01:06:32.000 Nah, they won't do it.

01:06:33.000 Yeah, take the boot, cut it open on air with a knife and show you, yeah, it's a cowboy boot.

01:06:38.000 And it's probably his toes aren't long enough, so it looked like it was bending, but it's still a cowboy boot.

01:06:41.000 No.

01:06:42.000 You think he's wearing inserts?

01:06:44.000 Because some cowboy boots just have big heels.

01:06:47.000 It's a fact.

01:06:47.000 On my Twitter, I posted a picture of me standing next to Ron DeSantis and a picture of me standing next to Trump and then Trump standing next to DeSantis.

01:06:54.000 And in all three pictures, Ron DeSantis' height has fluctuated.

01:06:58.000 And I don't wear boosters.

01:06:59.000 And not just that, when you watch videos of him walking, he's very obviously, one, the way he's walking, high heels, and two, when the foot bends, you can tell that he's wearing high heels. 0.99

01:07:11.000 Someone went to him and said, put the high heels on, you'll look tall, and they're laughing at him, like, I can't believe this idiot's doing it! 0.99

01:07:17.000 And he won't fire these people because they are sabotaging him on purpose. 0.99

01:07:22.000 And this, now, again, the Trump-DeSantis ticket a year and a half ago was unbeatable.

01:07:27.000 Absolutely.

01:07:28.000 If Trump announced DeSantis would be the VP, he'd be polling at 52% or something.

01:07:32.000 Honestly, if DeSantis just bowed down and had humility right now, they'd still be unbeatable.

01:07:38.000 If you saw him acknowledge the, I don't want to swear on camera, but the last year of his campaign, if he acknowledged how poorly run it was, people would light up.

01:07:47.000 I think that there's too much animosity right now for a Trump-DeSantis ticket, and I think part of that has to do with the infrastructures they're both surrounded by, because you would need to merge their teams, or DeSantis would have to abandon everyone he's been working with.

01:08:01.000 I don't know that that's realistically going to happen.

01:08:03.000 Maybe it should.

01:08:04.000 So I don't want to force anyone into drama, but why is it that there have been three people who have come on this show who have asked me, why am I being attacked by DeSantis' campaign?

01:08:16.000 And so, there are individuals who are not hyper-partisan electoral personalities.

01:08:24.000 Individuals whose careers do not put them in the line of, I'm for Trump, or I'm for... We've had people on the show who are not saying either of those things, and they're like, DeSantis' campaign started attacking me.

01:08:34.000 And I'm like, yeah, they're trying to destroy his campaign.

01:08:36.000 They're going scorched earth.

01:08:37.000 They want to make sure that if in six months, it clearly is Trump, there will not be a recovery period like Ted Cruz had.

01:08:44.000 Ted Cruz was lying Ted.

01:08:46.000 And then after the primary, he was lying Ted.

01:08:49.000 Lie in instead of lying.

01:08:51.000 That's pretty good.

01:08:51.000 That's the recovery.

01:08:52.000 That's pretty good insight.

01:08:53.000 And his sadness beard.

01:08:55.000 That was the time.

01:08:56.000 Well, I can speak to that, too.

01:08:57.000 Right.

01:08:57.000 Look what, you know, when when this first all started, I wasn't negative on DeSantis at all.

01:09:03.000 And I'm known to be a Trump supporter.

01:09:05.000 Right.

01:09:05.000 But then you had J.D.

01:09:06.000 Vance come out and say, you know, leave it to Ron DeSantis' poorly run team to attack their former friends.

01:09:11.000 And that's exactly what they've done.

01:09:11.000 Right.

01:09:13.000 But see, the thing is, They attacked people who were currently their friends.

01:09:18.000 I've had people, prominent individuals, say to me, they ask me, like, hey, do you know what's going on?

01:09:24.000 I'm being attacked by the Santa's people, do you know why?

01:09:26.000 And I'm like...

01:09:27.000 I'm like, they're attacking everybody.

01:09:29.000 And it's just, they're just like, I don't understand, like, I've not said anything bad about him at all.

01:09:33.000 And I just, I think the idea is, after the primary, they want to make sure that not a single Trump supporter will welcome DeSantis back.

01:09:43.000 There's no explanation for why some of these personalities are prominent individuals with a lot of followers.

01:09:48.000 There's no explanation for why they're like, I can't stand to stand to... Why would you attack some of these people?

01:09:56.000 Why did they start attacking us?

01:09:58.000 Why did they ban their people from coming on the show?

01:10:01.000 When Ron loses, there's a recovery period where Trump can say, enough fighting, you know, Ron's a great governor and we're going to welcome him back.

01:10:08.000 Not anymore, there's not.

01:10:09.000 He's going to be Rosie O'Donnell.

01:10:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:11.000 It is so toxic.

01:10:13.000 And the high heels thing was the nail in the coffin. 1.00

01:10:17.000 There's no way Trump can be like, I'm going to choose backstabbing high heel Ron with the crackhead PR team.

01:10:25.000 It's not going to happen.

01:10:26.000 There's a reason why they don't work for Trump anymore and they deflected over to his team.

01:10:31.000 DeSantis' crew?

01:10:31.000 Yeah.

01:10:32.000 Oh, okay.

01:10:33.000 I mean, he has some smart people on his team, but... I don't think so.

01:10:36.000 They're not around anymore, though.

01:10:38.000 Maybe they're just not wise.

01:10:39.000 No, no, no, no, no!

01:10:41.000 Two potentials. 1.00

01:10:42.000 DeSantis' people are geniuses, and what they're doing is intentionally destroying DeSantis, or they are the stupidest people in the world, and they don't understand they're destroying DeSantis. 0.99

01:10:51.000 Additionally, no matter how you cut it, Ron DeSantis is the dumbest politician in the country right now for hiring. 0.99

01:10:56.000 For not firing them. 0.98

01:10:58.000 Look, you can hire bad people, but after the first screw-up, you have a talking to.

01:11:02.000 After the second screw-up, you start saying, warning, and you put out statements.

01:11:06.000 Third screw-up, you say, I have removed this person from my staff.

01:11:09.000 He's not done it!

01:11:10.000 Especially when your platform is built on the preface that you run a tighter ship than Trump, right?

01:11:15.000 Trump had all these leaks in the White House, according to DeSantis, and he runs a tight ship in Florida, right?

01:11:19.000 It's polar to what he's campaigned on.

01:11:26.000 Yeah, I get the vibe.

01:11:27.000 Okay, what I was gonna say is, I think Ron strikes me as high intelligence, low wisdom, because he doesn't know how to get his intellect across.

01:11:35.000 It's poorly managed and poorly integrated, and like, you gotta have humility, dude.

01:11:39.000 And this obsession with pride of like, oh, they said something mean, get them!

01:11:42.000 Like, no, you gotta like, roll with it. 0.91

01:11:44.000 Yeah, you said something mean, because I'm a goofball sometimes.

01:11:46.000 That's his team.

01:11:48.000 It's bled into his persona, unfortunately.

01:11:51.000 You're right.

01:11:51.000 I like Ron DeSantis.

01:11:52.000 I think he's done the best job of any governor in Florida, and that's why so many people moved there.

01:11:57.000 That's why a lot of people are defensive of him.

01:11:58.000 But that is no excuse for hiring the worst people imaginable, who are setting fires to everything around you, and you being like, this is fine.

01:12:08.000 At that point, I'm like, this guy has a very serious leadership problem.

01:12:12.000 Very serious leadership.

01:12:13.000 And you know what I'm gonna start doing?

01:12:14.000 Sorry, I can only assume now the accomplishments of Florida are due the legislature, and he's just going, sure, I guess.

01:12:20.000 And he's bumbling around like Mr. Magoo.

01:12:22.000 Because where he has direct executive authority, his campaign, he's failed miserably.

01:12:28.000 When it comes to the politics of Florida, he's stamping what the Florida legislature passes.

01:12:32.000 And so we give him a lot of credit for it, and for standing up and making statements.

01:12:36.000 Now I'm just thinking, You know, they're probably just handing him a script and he just says whatever.

01:12:40.000 And in Florida they want to win, they do, but here they're trying to tank him knowing he can't beat Trump and they don't want him teaming up with Trump so they're sabotaging him.

01:12:46.000 Or they want him to stay governor of Florida and they don't want him to be president so they're trying to destroy his chances.

01:12:50.000 I don't know, that's a possibility.

01:12:52.000 It's not a great, uh, any of these options are pretty bad to have on your staff, right?

01:12:55.000 I mean, this is not what you would want to be surrounded by while running a campaign.

01:12:59.000 Yeah, I mean, but the establishment to Tim's point is evil and they'll, you know, they'll go to the farthest lengths to destroy something that they don't like.

01:13:07.000 Well, people were pointing out, like, Ken Griffin donating to DeSantis, and the immediate assumption is the establishment is teaming up with DeSantis to go against Trump, and I'm kind of like, or they just are sabotaging DeSantis.

01:13:19.000 They do not want an ascendant Trump personality.

01:13:22.000 They don't want an heir to the Trump throne.

01:13:25.000 If, what was everybody saying?

01:13:27.000 Trump 2024, DeSantis VP, DeSantis 2028.

01:13:31.000 Not anymore they're not!

01:13:32.000 DeSantis is done.

01:13:33.000 I mean, I don't know where he goes after this.

01:13:35.000 He's termed out of Florida.

01:13:36.000 Maybe he'll run for the Senate.

01:13:37.000 So question then, VP Ramaswamy or Kennedy?

01:13:42.000 Ramaswamy.

01:13:43.000 Ramaswamy.

01:13:44.000 I personally want Larry Elder to be VP.

01:13:46.000 I've got a job writing on it, so you know.

01:13:48.000 I like Byron Donalds, to be honest.

01:13:50.000 Yeah!

01:13:50.000 Byron's a good guy.

01:13:51.000 He's awesome.

01:13:52.000 I love Byron.

01:13:53.000 Byron's excellent.

01:13:53.000 He's a really cool dude.

01:13:54.000 Yeah, stand-up guy.

01:13:55.000 He's endorsed my campaign, by the way.

01:13:58.000 But yeah, Byron Donalds is one of the best people I met in D.C.

01:14:02.000 I agree.

01:14:02.000 Absolutely one of the best people I met.

01:14:03.000 I mean, there's so few people, but I actually met Byron Donalds when he was hanging out with Matt Gaetz, and I'm like, I'm not surprised.

01:14:10.000 Like, these are good dudes.

01:14:10.000 Lauren Boebert's office, we interviewed him, it was really cool.

01:14:12.000 Do you think that there's any weight to the idea that Trump's gonna feel obligated to pick a female VP?

01:14:18.000 Oh, he better not play this game.

01:14:19.000 That's what I do not want him to play this game, but I keep hearing everywhere, no, it's definitely gonna be a woman, it's definitely gonna be a woman, and I do not want that. 1.00

01:14:25.000 It makes me really mad.

01:14:27.000 Be sure to tell him that.

01:14:28.000 Yeah, as soon as he calls me, I'll be like, if you pick a woman VP, you've lost everyone's confidence. 1.00

01:14:33.000 You know, people kept asking us when we're having him on the show, And we know so many people in Trump's circle, they've all said, like, we can figure something out.

01:14:42.000 We'll talk to him.

01:14:42.000 He'll probably just say, yes, of course, but we got to go to him.

01:14:45.000 And we just, we've not coordinated it and tried to make it happen.

01:14:48.000 I'm not saying Trump is going to give us a time of day.

01:14:50.000 I'm saying, you know, a lot of people around him are like, no, no, yeah, we can, we can work with him and schedule something.

01:14:55.000 We've just not done it.

01:14:56.000 We should probably just finally do it and just get our, like, booking people to be like, can we just arrange this finally?

01:15:03.000 Because then I can say, you know, Don, Just don't know.

01:15:06.000 No, no, no Nikki Haley.

01:15:08.000 Yeah, I think that should let me let me ask you.

01:15:11.000 I think, you know, what I've learned in politics is things kind of are placated right on purpose.

01:15:17.000 I think maybe that was something that leaked on the back end to just test the waters for the general public would think and what Twitter would think.

01:15:23.000 And I think pretty quickly it got, you know, smoshed that, you know, he needed to have a female vice president.

01:15:31.000 And I think he's I think he's turned the page on that.

01:15:33.000 I don't think Vivek is the perfect candidate.

01:15:37.000 I think he's the current best option.

01:15:40.000 You know, in the past, I said Kerry Lake.

01:15:42.000 But, you know, there were several points that were made.

01:15:45.000 One, in terms of what is best for Kerry Lake.

01:15:47.000 Running for Senate, winning in Arizona, and helping fix the states.

01:15:50.000 We gotta win the states.

01:15:54.000 But also, some other people pointed out, then you have Trump and Trump basically.

01:15:57.000 Kerry Lake is a smart, like, No disrespect to Trump, but she is a sharper, articulate Trump. 0.92

01:16:04.000 And so people have said, you need a contrast to that.

01:16:07.000 And Vivek, in a way, is kind of like Trump, but he's a PR guy.

01:16:12.000 He is tactful, kind of like how Carrie Lake is.

01:16:16.000 But in terms of his presence, that's why I kind of feel like he's probably the better option.

01:16:21.000 Sometimes I want it to be a VP that is not currently seeking the presidency.

01:16:25.000 I know that's pretty normal to consider.

01:16:27.000 That's how we got Kamala Harris, of course. 1.00

01:16:29.000 And Pence.

01:16:30.000 Yeah, Pence wasn't running, right?

01:16:32.000 Pence wasn't running.

01:16:32.000 And again, not that Pence was an option.

01:16:35.000 Pence was forced from the establishment, man.

01:16:37.000 I mean, that's given.

01:16:38.000 But I don't like it becoming too much of a manufacturing line, right?

01:16:41.000 It's like, well, if you drop out early enough, I'll give you a VP.

01:16:44.000 I like the idea that there is potentially other perspectives out there that we don't hear on the national stage.

01:16:49.000 I think Vivek compliments Trump in the fact that they have two totally different leadership styles.

01:16:53.000 I mean, Trump's a transformational type guy, right?

01:16:55.000 He sees the big picture.

01:16:57.000 Vivek tends to get in the details and, you know, they're polar opposites in so many regards.

01:17:03.000 But personality wise, they do have some similarities.

01:17:06.000 Yeah, they're both executors, but Trump is the executor, and Ramaswamy is the mastermind.

01:17:13.000 They're both masterminds, but Ramaswamy is a pure mastermind.

01:17:16.000 Yeah I mean that's what he said when he was here he was saying you know some personalities just can't mesh well together and I am a personality I've been an executive for so long like I have to be at the front and I think it might be a challenge to be VP under someone else it's not that he's not talented and could do amazing things it's just it's just hard for me to imagine a Trump-Ramaswamy ticket where they're both happy.

01:17:37.000 I think it's he has a duty to the country I think we all do and if he's called to the position He has to take it.

01:17:43.000 Trump can persuade him.

01:17:44.000 I mean, you know, that that's the that's the beauty of the guy.

01:17:47.000 You know, you sit down with him.

01:17:48.000 I get it.

01:17:49.000 Right.

01:17:49.000 So certain personalities clash.

01:17:51.000 But if it's not obvious that those two could work in cohesion, I mean, just someone who understands leadership theory at a basic minimum can tell that these two guys can work together because they balance one another.

01:18:04.000 I'm just kind of thinking, like, who else could it be?

01:18:07.000 Seriously, I mean, Kennedy.

01:18:08.000 Well, that's why I like Byron, though.

01:18:09.000 No, I don't think it would be Kennedy.

01:18:11.000 Now, Kennedy, to your point, that's where I think there would be a personality clash, because I don't think Kennedy's going to take the back seat.

01:18:17.000 And you have a guy like Byron, who's also technically intelligent, right, with his finance background.

01:18:22.000 I mean, there's another balance to Trump.

01:18:24.000 So, I mean, you have to kind of look for that personality.

01:18:29.000 Subtle differences, but differences that complement.

01:18:31.000 I think Byron, maybe in a couple cycles, would... It's tough.

01:18:38.000 I don't see him as a VP right now.

01:18:40.000 Byron Donaldson.

01:18:41.000 Is he running?

01:18:42.000 No, he doesn't have any aspirations.

01:18:44.000 We should have him on the show.

01:18:45.000 We only interviewed him for like 15 minutes.

01:18:47.000 He was only on for like 10 or 15 minutes.

01:18:48.000 Make sure Larry comes with him, his buddy Larry, his advisor.

01:18:52.000 Those two together are hilarious, man.

01:18:54.000 I would love to talk to Byron for a couple hours.

01:18:56.000 Vivek seems like...

01:19:00.000 He could be VP right now.

01:19:01.000 But again, I don't think he's the perfect candidate.

01:19:02.000 It's just, I don't know who else there is.

01:19:04.000 Unless it was Trump Trump.

01:19:06.000 Which I don't think would be realistic.

01:19:07.000 As much as I jokingly say, let's just get as many Trumps in federal office as possible.

01:19:12.000 Let's just, you know... How old is Barron?

01:19:15.000 Can he run for Congress?

01:19:16.000 Yeah, he's got to be 25.

01:19:16.000 Not old enough.

01:19:17.000 Barron Trump?

01:19:18.000 He hasn't graduated high school yet.

01:19:19.000 I mean, he's got a minute.

01:19:21.000 I'll make an exception to put more Trumps in government.

01:19:24.000 Just get them all in there because this is all... First, if he runs for class president, then he will run for class president.

01:19:29.000 He's 17.

01:19:29.000 He'll be 17.

01:19:30.000 We're going to get accused of promoting oligarchy on the show, right?

01:19:33.000 But I don't care.

01:19:34.000 Trump royal family because it pisses off the machine.

01:19:36.000 And then we'll figure out.

01:19:38.000 It's like the Simpsons when, you know, when they had the lizard problem.

01:19:42.000 And so they were like, they'll get dogs.

01:19:43.000 And then how do you do with the dogs?

01:19:44.000 And then they're like, we'll get, you know, they increase, keep getting the animals bigger and bigger until they're finally like, we'll have gorillas go and kill the animal.

01:19:50.000 And they're like, but then they have a gorilla problem. 0.83

01:19:53.000 And Skinner's, I think it was Skinner, he's like, no, that's the best part.

01:19:55.000 When winter comes, they simply freeze to death.

01:19:58.000 So it's just like, we'll get all the Trumps in there.

01:20:00.000 Let them just, Trump it out.

01:20:03.000 Trump it out, man!

01:20:04.000 And then, you know, we'll figure it out later.

01:20:05.000 I thought you made a good point that Ramaswamy's not the perfect candidate, because I think a lot of people might right now be looking for perfection, and if they don't see it, they're gonna turn away and vote for what they think is safe.

01:20:15.000 But you're never gonna find perfection.

01:20:17.000 You've gotta go with...

01:20:19.000 You got to take risks.

01:20:20.000 And to counter that, though, if you look at some of the folks that are anti-Vivek, that are in like MAGA, you know, in the MAGA mindset, right?

01:20:29.000 They're attacking Vivek because they believe he's too perfect.

01:20:31.000 They think he's Obama 2.0.

01:20:33.000 I mean, there's a lot of different theories on that.

01:20:35.000 But at the end of the day, like it's deeds, not words.

01:20:38.000 Right.

01:20:38.000 And if you look at what Vivek has done for his personal life, for his family, you know, for the state he lives in, his community.

01:20:44.000 I mean, you don't have any Vivek Ramaswamy employees jumping out saying this guy's a terrible leader.

01:20:48.000 Vivek effectively said he wants to cut funding to Israel.

01:20:52.000 Now, not as blunt, he says he wants to get them sustainable to the point, through U.S.

01:20:56.000 support, to where we don't need to be supporting them anymore.

01:20:59.000 Which is the intelligent way of saying, like, hey, we should not be... That's bold, because, you know, Nikki Haley is like, ahhh, and she loses her mind.

01:21:06.000 My objection to Ronald Swamney, to be honest, is, you know, again, I'm very lucky to be in a position to ask him this, but he has a more flexible view on H-1B visas than I do.

01:21:15.000 I feel like I would prefer someone to take a stronger stance on border and border security and reducing even legal immigration into the country as well as illegal immigration, but that is not to say that he couldn't do amazing things.

01:21:30.000 I am not convinced this is the cycle.

01:21:32.000 I don't think he would like being VP to Trump, but He has incredible potential, and I think it's better to have a deep bench of people who can do good things for the country.

01:21:43.000 Like, we always talk about it like it's just the presidency and the VP, but it's really not.

01:21:47.000 There are tons of cabinet positions, there are lots of things that we could have talented, intellectual, and accomplished people.

01:21:53.000 Step into and really benefit the American public.

01:21:56.000 I get the Obama criticism.

01:21:58.000 They feel like Vivek is Obama 2.0.

01:22:00.000 I've thought that a couple times.

01:22:01.000 I've even said it on the show, Vivek the snake.

01:22:03.000 I called him a couple times and it's like I feel that like he's an orator.

01:22:06.000 He's willing to bend with the wind like a reed even to the point maybe where he'll snap like Obama did and then the big business takes over.

01:22:13.000 But that's why I like seeing him in a VP position because he'll watch it happen all around him and he won't have to be the one getting co-opted and he'll see how Don like kind of I mean, that's what he communicated to us.

01:22:23.000 He didn't want to be someone watching.

01:22:26.000 He wants to be at the head of the organization.

01:22:28.000 And so, again, like, maybe if, you know, he doesn't progress with the presidential race, maybe he should run for governor of Ohio.

01:22:34.000 Maybe he should step into a leadership role on a smaller scale.

01:22:37.000 And then, you know, he's so young.

01:22:39.000 He has so much potential to do a lot of things.

01:22:41.000 If he doesn't run this cycle, I'm sure he'll run again.

01:22:43.000 Who do the Democrats have in terms of youth?

01:22:46.000 AOC?

01:22:47.000 And like Max Frost, that's like the guy they're always talking about.

01:22:49.000 He's like the youngest member of Congress.

01:22:51.000 Yeah, but Max Frost, you said?

01:22:53.000 Yeah, I think that's his name.

01:22:55.000 Out of Florida.

01:22:56.000 He's not the same level of AOC.

01:22:58.000 No, not yet.

01:23:00.000 Vivek, like, stepped onto the stage and hit it out of the ballpark and skyrocketed in terms of just like notoriety, notability.

01:23:08.000 You know, the things he was saying, the conversations he was having, the way he was having them, inspired a lot of people very, very quickly and resulted in this viral, like, notability.

01:23:16.000 Yeah.

01:23:16.000 The guy's loved in Ohio.

01:23:18.000 Like I said, man, I met him before he even had political aspirations.

01:23:21.000 He was just coming around, talking about... I mean, he was a libertarian.

01:23:25.000 You know, he said it.

01:23:26.000 Some people arguing have made the claim that he wants to be a senator out of Ohio.

01:23:30.000 I think he's denied that.

01:23:32.000 Yeah, I mean, there's been people advocating for it, you know, because of the Senate race in Ohio right now is highly contested.

01:23:38.000 So, you know, I think Vivek standing out the way he has during his presidential run has drawn a lot more attention to him.

01:23:45.000 When Gavin Newsom went over to China, I got the vibe like, oh, they're running Gavin Newsom.

01:23:50.000 That's what's gonna happen.

01:23:52.000 I can't identify with Democrats at all because if I were like, this guy wants to be the president, so he went to China and that's how I know he wants to be the president.

01:24:03.000 No, no, no.

01:24:03.000 Tour the US.

01:24:04.000 Leave California and come see, you know, Industrial towns in the Midwest that were devastated by manufacturing leaving.

01:24:10.000 Go to West Virginia and talk to people who are affected by the opioid crisis.

01:24:14.000 Like, if you want to be president of the United States, shouldn't you talk to Americans?

01:24:17.000 Why would you be like, I will go overseas.

01:24:19.000 This is a great idea.

01:24:20.000 I just I can't relate to it. 0.99

01:24:22.000 Go spank little boys while I'm playing basketball. 0.99

01:24:24.000 I've never seen a governor go speak with the president of China before. 0.99

01:24:28.000 Have you?

01:24:28.000 I've never seen that before.

01:24:29.000 It's weird, huh?

01:24:30.000 Yeah.

01:24:31.000 That was highly unorthodox.

01:24:33.000 Yeah.

01:24:35.000 Novel.

01:24:35.000 You know, the great nation of California needs representation in China.

01:24:38.000 I don't see Biden being the nominee.

01:24:40.000 I don't see him being the candidate for the Democrats.

01:24:42.000 Yeah.

01:24:43.000 Because look at the polls right now.

01:24:45.000 Cenk Uygur said he's only running basically to bring awareness to the fact that Biden's going to lose.

01:24:50.000 And that he's like, I have to run because people don't understand Biden will lose.

01:24:55.000 He bought the domain Bidenisgoingtolose.com.

01:24:58.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:24:59.000 And he said Republicans should want Biden in the race.

01:25:02.000 And I'm like, I agree.

01:25:03.000 And then Dean Phillips out of Minnesota launched his campaign to challenge Biden after pretending he wasn't going to for a minute.

01:25:11.000 It's kind of interesting that we have an open Democrat who's like, I think I can maybe run a race.

01:25:18.000 I had thought when RFK decided to run as an independent, perhaps there was pressure from the DNC being like, you have to get out of here.

01:25:24.000 We can't have anyone else.

01:25:25.000 But obviously that message hasn't trickled down to the rest of the rank and file.

01:25:30.000 If we have someone out of Minnesota saying, well, I might throw my hat in the ring after we've already have an independent candidate challenging essentially Biden.

01:25:38.000 I know they pretend like it's both Trump and Biden.

01:25:41.000 It's really not.

01:25:42.000 I mean, no one wants Biden to run.

01:25:44.000 This is what's happening.

01:25:47.000 I wasn't here when Cenk was on the show because I was in Miami, but I was thinking about progressivism.

01:25:51.000 That's a term that gets thrown out.

01:25:52.000 I'm progressive.

01:25:53.000 Think about progressivism, and I'd love to talk to Cenk to talk to you about this directly too, Cenk.

01:25:57.000 Progress means to move forward.

01:25:59.000 So you can progress towards a cliff and then walk off the cliff.

01:26:03.000 Where are you progressing?

01:26:04.000 That's a big part of being progressive.

01:26:05.000 What are you progressing to?

01:26:06.000 And also, how are you progressing?

01:26:08.000 Are you progressing as a wild mob, disorganized?

01:26:10.000 Or are you progressing in an organized fashion?

01:26:13.000 They're marching towards the cliff.

01:26:15.000 And that needs to be discussed, debated, and observed, because that's a big part of it.

01:26:20.000 You can't just say you're progressive and expect enemies.

01:26:22.000 So you don't want to be regressive, but unless... Well, it depends.

01:26:25.000 If you're about to walk off a cliff, you do want to be regressive.

01:26:27.000 Or maybe you want to turn left.

01:26:27.000 Right.

01:26:29.000 What's the transgressive?

01:26:34.000 Yes, we're the transgressive.

01:26:35.000 Is that the right word?

01:26:36.000 We don't want to go forward.

01:26:39.000 The forward is the cliff.

01:26:40.000 We don't want to go backwards.

01:26:41.000 That's too far, but we want to go kind of back and to the left.

01:26:44.000 You know, we should go back a little bit because the left has gone nuts, but we mostly just want to turn left.

01:26:48.000 Maybe degressive? 0.89

01:26:49.000 Or turn right.

01:26:50.000 I want to go back and to the right.

01:26:51.000 I was going to say, I will only join this movement, the transgressive movement, if we're going back and to the right.

01:26:57.000 I'm into the transgressive movement then, but back and to the left sounds equally as bad because ultimately it'll be like, why are we going back?

01:27:03.000 We should go forward again!

01:27:05.000 And it'll just horseshoe back to where it was going.

01:27:07.000 We do have the 20s in the chat for what Ian had said, because it is correct. 1.00

01:27:11.000 The left seems to be progressive for the sake of progress, but progress for the sake of progress is blind.

01:27:16.000 They're just saying, just keep doing it, keep doing it, why not, why not, and you're like, eventually, you're like, hey, there's a naked man dancing in front of children, and they're like, progress!

01:27:24.000 And you're like, okay, but this is not what we thought we were progressing to.

01:27:27.000 Transgress! 0.96

01:27:28.000 We want Star Trek, and like, you know, Replicators, and Cold Fusion.

01:27:33.000 And Graphene, not naked men dancing for children, okay?

01:27:36.000 That's not progress, that's something weird.

01:27:39.000 Actually, I think that's transgressive.

01:27:41.000 Amen, brother.

01:27:42.000 Amen, sister, that's what I meant.

01:27:44.000 No, I think progress in the relative sense, like what would Americans view as progress, it would be Space travel, colonizing other planets.

01:27:57.000 When you ask someone, what do you think the future looks like?

01:27:59.000 These are the things they envision.

01:28:01.000 They envision, oh, people aren't hungry anymore, people aren't starving, food replicators, spaceships.

01:28:07.000 That's what they think of when they think of us advancing and progressing.

01:28:10.000 What's happened is the left has hijacked progress, and now they've got naked dudes dancing in front of children.

01:28:16.000 And I'm like, okay, that's veering off the course.

01:28:20.000 So we're driving, here's a better way to put it, we're driving on this road, and you've got a rocky cliffside to your right, and a sheer cliffside straight drop to your left, and they've turned the car to the left, and we're like, guys, if we keep this angle up, we're going off the edge, we gotta correct it and go back to the dreams of what we used to focus on.

01:28:41.000 For a moment, let us Congress, meaning move together, And turn around, and then we'll go to space.

01:28:47.000 That's funny.

01:28:48.000 So we define where we're going.

01:28:50.000 Very clearly, paint the picture, Chank, and everyone that wants to be progressive or consider themselves, paint the picture of where you want to end up.

01:28:55.000 I like this word, gress. 0.96

01:28:56.000 Yes.

01:28:57.000 Currently, we should egress.

01:29:00.000 We're about to egress to Super Chats.

01:29:02.000 But also, after you explain where we're going, and you outline it in such a vivid way that people can picture it, then explain how we're going to get there piece by piece.

01:29:11.000 And you'll have a lot of people following you.

01:29:14.000 Yeah, see, the left is mostly just, we should just do what we do for whatever reason.

01:29:18.000 Which is the military war machine from 1913, Federal Reserve, banking.

01:29:22.000 Yeah, it's the never enough party, right?

01:29:24.000 They say, you know, we've accomplished this progressive goal, but now we have to push it.

01:29:28.000 And there's no reason why.

01:29:30.000 It's just continuing to push boundaries forward and forward.

01:29:33.000 That allows people with really nefarious agendas to step in and say, I'm benefiting from this dissolve into chaos.

01:29:41.000 It's anarchy disguised as progressivism in so many different ways.

01:29:46.000 I mean, true progressivism, like you're explaining, is realistic.

01:29:50.000 It has reasonable goals and you know where you're going with them.

01:29:54.000 I mean, it's just total destruction.

01:29:55.000 That's what transgressive means, actually.

01:29:57.000 It means to just violate the social norms or regular norms that we're doing.

01:30:00.000 So really, in reality, they are transgressive because that's the definition of the word.

01:30:04.000 They're not progressing towards anything that's meaningful.

01:30:07.000 And the goalposts are always moving, too.

01:30:08.000 So transgressive is like swerving the wheel left and right as you're going.

01:30:13.000 Stop it.

01:30:15.000 Oh, Serge has got the details.

01:30:17.000 Yeah, it's like, it has to do with, like, breaking social boundaries, or moral boundaries.

01:30:20.000 Yeah, so transgressive would be to, like, end, like, revolting against moral and social boundaries, which is literally what the progressive movement today is saying that they're doing, so.

01:30:29.000 Creating generations of violence.

01:30:31.000 Oh yeah, transgressive is involving a violation of moral or social boundaries.

01:30:35.000 Yeah.

01:30:35.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:30:36.000 So that's what I was saying, like, they literally are transgressive, because they always tell me that what they're trying to do is, like, you know, subvert the thing.

01:30:43.000 So it's like, you're not progressive.

01:30:44.000 Progressive is the wrong word, and I don't know.

01:30:46.000 They're transgressive.

01:30:47.000 Transgressive, quite literally.

01:30:48.000 And arguably aggressive, unfortunately.

01:30:50.000 Very aggressive, very aggressive.

01:30:52.000 Extremely aggressive.

01:30:53.000 Ian has just now stated every word using the base gress.

01:30:57.000 And if you have yet to ingress, do it.

01:30:59.000 It's in prayer.

01:31:00.000 You'll go within yourself, feel God's energy.

01:31:03.000 You should write a song that will use all these gress words.

01:31:06.000 Gress on, gressor. 0.99

01:31:08.000 Yes.

01:31:09.000 I guess.

01:31:13.000 Okay, how about we pop over to Super Chats?

01:31:15.000 I'm so happy.

01:31:16.000 We progress over to Super Chats?

01:31:17.000 Don't be gressy. 0.91

01:31:18.000 No, we ingress?

01:31:20.000 Yeah, we are.

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01:31:37.000 Alright, where we at?

01:31:39.000 Blave Kai just says, always remember Biden's last action in Afghanistan was to drone strike a father and his seven kids while he was delivering water to his neighborhood.

01:31:48.000 That's great.

01:31:50.000 Just good work on that one, Joey Boynton.

01:31:52.000 Just before, after he issued the surrender.

01:31:56.000 That was probably after.

01:31:58.000 Alpha Turkey says, Hey Tim, it's unfair for you to call Gen Z lazy for not wanting to get out of bed to work when your generation didn't have to deal with the possibility of a Disney executive under your bed.

01:32:09.000 It's a fair point.

01:32:10.000 Kathleen Kennedy was not under my bed.

01:32:12.000 That's a reference to South Park, by the way.

01:32:14.000 Carmen's like, Mom, can you check to see if Kathleen Kennedy's under my bed?

01:32:18.000 And then, uh, I don't want to spoil the rest for you.

01:32:21.000 No, but I think, um, I think Millennials are lazier than Gen Z. I think it's important to say, you know, I, I, I want to make sure I have this, I say this quite a bit. 1.00

01:32:30.000 Gen Z actually is, I think, in many ways based, and Millennials suck. 1.00

01:32:35.000 I think a lot of it is that they aren't incentivized, and so the momentum's not there. 0.81

01:32:40.000 They wake up to this, like, what's the point kind of thing that I didn't get in the 90s and the 80s.

01:32:45.000 I was like, I'm going to be a rock star, I'm going to be an actor, I'm going to be famous, make a bunch of money and save the world.

01:32:49.000 I think a lot of millennials were trained to just wait for instructions, you know?

01:32:52.000 And so now that's what happens.

01:32:53.000 They're just waiting for someone to tell them what they're supposed to be doing and they're frustrated because they're not satisfied with that way of living.

01:33:00.000 And what happens with Gen Z is they catch the beginning of the influencer age in which you have to build your own platform.

01:33:08.000 So millennials were like, tell me what to do, mom and dad. 0.97

01:33:11.000 Tell me what to do, teacher.

01:33:12.000 Tell me what to do, professor.

01:33:14.000 And that's their whole life.

01:33:15.000 Then they get out of college and they're like, government, please govern me harder, daddy.

01:33:19.000 Whereas Gen Z are in this period where tons of people are self-made, young people are self-made millionaires. 0.97

01:33:24.000 And they're like, I gotta hustle and I gotta make a page and I gotta do these influencer stuff.

01:33:29.000 Now, not all that is good, but I think that creates a little bit more of an entrepreneurial and independent spirit among Gen Z. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of communists in Gen Z. I wonder if that's natural generational, that you breed generations of workers and then generations of leaders that then build businesses for the workers.

01:33:47.000 It reminds me of... Nature versus nurture is what it is.

01:33:50.000 See, it reminds me of like year of the, I don't remember what it's called in China, I guess the zodiacs, but like the year of the, is it the dragon is the year that everyone wants to have a kid.

01:34:00.000 There's one year where a lot of people are like, this is, this is the best thing ever.

01:34:03.000 And I was listening to some report from NPR where it's like, the children who are born in this desirable year actually do perform better on tests.

01:34:09.000 They do tend to have higher education, you know, things like that, these metrics.

01:34:13.000 But that's because they're dragons.

01:34:14.000 And that's the thing, is it because they are told constantly, you're successful, you're special?

01:34:18.000 Both.

01:34:19.000 Or is it because people just say, oh yes, the dragon, that is very important, you must stand out.

01:34:24.000 I think they're literally dragons.

01:34:25.000 I think I'm a tiger.

01:34:26.000 You think they're literally dragons?

01:34:26.000 Personally.

01:34:27.000 Yeah, I'm a monkey, you're the monkey. 0.62

01:34:30.000 Nice.

01:34:30.000 I think I'm a tiger.

01:34:31.000 I don't know what I am.

01:34:32.000 That was my high school animal, the tigers, the false tigers.

01:34:35.000 Tiger Falls, what's up?

01:34:36.000 I don't know what I am.

01:34:37.000 Somebody tell me, I'm April 2nd, 1979.

01:34:39.000 It's per year, so whatever 1979 would be.

01:34:42.000 So I'm 92, so monkey.

01:34:43.000 Chinese?

01:34:44.000 Yeah, Chinese.

01:34:45.000 1986, Tiger.

01:34:45.000 Tiger.

01:34:48.000 And it means each of these years come with different attributes.

01:34:50.000 I mean, I find this really interesting, right?

01:34:51.000 I'm the goat.

01:34:53.000 Well, what's up?

01:34:55.000 You're 79.

01:34:56.000 I'm 79, man.

01:34:57.000 What's up, goat?

01:34:58.000 Nice. 0.99

01:34:58.000 You're also a goat. 0.99

01:34:59.000 Oh, wow. 0.99

01:34:59.000 That's what I'm talking about. 0.99

01:35:03.000 What's yours, Hannah-Claire? 0.98

01:35:04.000 I think I'm the pig or something. 0.90

01:35:07.000 What year are you?

01:35:07.000 95.

01:35:07.000 I have no idea what it is.

01:35:09.000 95 is the blind mole rat. 1.00

01:35:14.000 Well, that's... You are the pig. 1.00

01:35:16.000 Yeah, you're a pig. 1.00

01:35:18.000 I was gonna make a Camp Possible reference. 0.99

01:35:19.000 I didn't know if any of the boys in this room would get it.

01:35:22.000 Sometimes translated as the boar.

01:35:23.000 Yeah, that's me.

01:35:24.000 I'm a boar.

01:35:25.000 93 is the rooster.

01:35:26.000 Dude.

01:35:26.000 Roosters are cool.

01:35:28.000 Yeah, roosters are based.

01:35:30.000 We got all the rooster boys.

01:35:31.000 we got too many, so we created an outside area.

01:35:35.000 So it's outside of Chicken City, it's not the Chicken City suburbs.

01:35:38.000 And we've, it's the area that's fenced off, and there's a little house.

01:35:41.000 There's like a little makeshift house, so they can go in there and be safe from the wind.

01:35:45.000 And there's like 12 roosters, and they're just outside exposed, not going in. 1.00

01:35:49.000 They're just so dumb. 0.99

01:35:50.000 And they've just huddled together for warmth. 1.00

01:35:52.000 I'm like, guys, go in your little shelter.

01:35:54.000 Stop telling me what to do.

01:35:56.000 I'm an independent chicken.

01:35:57.000 I rallied them earlier.

01:35:59.000 I rallied them.

01:35:59.000 For those that were listening to Chicken City, ChickenCity.com.

01:36:02.000 I think ChickenCityLive.com.

01:36:04.000 I rallied them and made sure they knew.

01:36:07.000 That these young men, these brave men, are the front line to protect the city of Chicken City from predators, raccoons and foxes.

01:36:15.000 They gotta get through these brave roosters before they can make it into the city where the civilians are at.

01:36:21.000 Wow.

01:36:21.000 A rousing speech!

01:36:23.000 That's right.

01:36:24.000 That's right.

01:36:25.000 One year in the future.

01:36:26.000 Put them through the struggle.

01:36:27.000 Alright, Steven says, Congratulations!

01:36:30.000 At Blave Kaiser, you are first!

01:36:32.000 That's right.

01:36:34.000 He was first.

01:36:35.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:36:36.000 says, Tim, look at you out here making the January 6th hearing and now Trump's trial.

01:36:40.000 Before you know it, you'll be on trial yourself.

01:36:42.000 Shout out Phil's cameo.

01:36:44.000 Yep! 0.80

01:36:46.000 You know, it's kind of a weird thing.

01:36:48.000 Like, I didn't start doing this so that clips of me would end up at January 6 hearings or in Trump's ballot hearing trial, but it is going to be hilarious in like a hundred years and they're like, kids, open up the archive and let's watch a clip from Timcast IRL, a political show, and we'll learn about the politics of the era. 0.89

01:37:06.000 And that's like, I don't know, me and Ian saying stupid nonsense things and making jokes about fat pigs and like, It'll be like insulting Liz Chang.

01:37:13.000 When President Poole was a child, he started building computers at the age of 12. 0.94

01:37:17.000 It'll be funny because it's like there's so much advertisement, I wonder anyone else like who was in the courtroom that day or whatever, if they're gonna be like, I never heard of this show, it's kind of interesting.

01:37:25.000 Tim Katz, like how many listeners do we have tonight?

01:37:28.000 Like what show is this?

01:37:29.000 In the courtroom.

01:37:30.000 All the news articles are right about it.

01:37:31.000 No, yeah.

01:37:31.000 In the future, they're not going to mention President Poole.

01:37:33.000 They're going to be talking in class about, you know, former presidents appearing on the show, and then one student's going to be like, how come we don't hear about Tim Poole in any other history books?

01:37:41.000 I'm like, oh, that's because shortly after this, he got into a van and went to live down by the river.

01:37:45.000 That's how it'll, that's how it'll turn out.

01:37:47.000 The avatar.

01:37:49.000 He was gone.

01:37:50.000 That's right.

01:37:51.000 Chicken City.

01:37:51.000 For a hundred years.

01:37:53.000 Yeah, where I envision myself ending up is like an old 65-year-old man on the top of a mountain with a bunch of chickens and, you know, a nice little RV or something to live in.

01:38:03.000 Self-sustainable and, you know, a pointy stick.

01:38:06.000 And when someone shows up being like, we'd like to talk to you.

01:38:08.000 Get off my property! 1.00

01:38:09.000 Get away from me, you crazy people! 1.00

01:38:10.000 I don't want to have anything to do with you! 1.00

01:38:12.000 Leave me alone! 1.00

01:38:13.000 And they'll be like, wow, this guy went crazy.

01:38:14.000 It's like, yes, he did.

01:38:17.000 All right, where are we at?

01:38:19.000 Voice of the People says, since they played that clip of you and Kash Patel in court, does this mean everyone must be removed from trial?

01:38:25.000 Remember Juror 77?

01:38:26.000 They're all far-right extremists now.

01:38:28.000 That's right!

01:38:29.000 Yeah, Juror 77, remember that in Trump's case?

01:38:32.000 He had once seen an episode of Timcast, and therefore they said he's biased.

01:38:37.000 Gotta go!

01:38:38.000 Well, now, clearly, after everyone in that trial saw that clip of me, Of course they're fans.

01:38:45.000 Does this mean that I will never have to serve jury duty?

01:38:48.000 Yeah.

01:38:49.000 Like, oh, well, occasionally I'm on this podcast.

01:38:51.000 Actually, yes.

01:38:52.000 Get out of here.

01:38:53.000 No, no, but yeah.

01:38:54.000 Wow.

01:38:54.000 That's so, well, I guess I can never use an excuse to call it work.

01:38:57.000 I believe it is fair to say that if you went to jury duty, if you got summoned and you showed up and they asked you, be like, I am a political personality and pundit and writer for a big publication.

01:39:08.000 I appear on a live show every night.

01:39:10.000 They'd be like, you're dismissed.

01:39:11.000 I'd be like, no, you're not that.

01:39:12.000 Get out of here.

01:39:13.000 You think you're famous.

01:39:14.000 Well, because you read the news every single day.

01:39:16.000 I think that right there is like, for my job, I do nothing but read the news.

01:39:21.000 It would be impossible for me to not know about what's going on in this case.

01:39:24.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:39:24.000 Yeah, and it's like one aspect.

01:39:27.000 Well, no, it's more than one aspect of the news.

01:39:29.000 That's crazy.

01:39:29.000 I mean, never served jury duty.

01:39:30.000 If I get asked, that's what I'm definitely going to say.

01:39:32.000 No, this is the problem.

01:39:34.000 You want to be on jury duty.

01:39:35.000 Yeah, I'm not against it.

01:39:36.000 It's just like a crazy thing to think, you know, when you make choices in life.

01:39:39.000 The problem is...

01:39:41.000 The people who aren't smart enough to get off jury duty are the ones who get jury duty.

01:39:44.000 Yeah, true.

01:39:45.000 I always wanted to go on jury duty.

01:39:47.000 I've never got summoned for jury duty.

01:39:49.000 I'd love to be there and be like, not guilty.

01:39:51.000 And they'll be like, but sir, he had the marijuana on him.

01:39:53.000 It's like, we have it.

01:39:54.000 I'd be like, not guilty!

01:39:55.000 And they'd be like...

01:39:57.000 But he confessed!

01:39:58.000 I'd be like, I don't think you heard me.

01:39:59.000 Now you're definitely not getting called for jury duty.

01:40:01.000 Oh, for sure.

01:40:01.000 You know the, um, was that 12 Angry Men or whatever that movie was where like all the jurors and they're trying to convince them?

01:40:07.000 I would be the one guy and they'd be like, well, we all think this guy's guilty of possession.

01:40:11.000 I'd be like, not guilty.

01:40:12.000 And they'd be like...

01:40:14.000 They've recovered the evidence, he's admitted to having it, he's made a silly excuse of like, not guilty, and then one by one, the only argument I have is, it shouldn't be illegal.

01:40:23.000 And then I'll be like, so I'll just keep saying it over and over again until y'all say not guilty.

01:40:26.000 That's why I'd like to be on jury duty.

01:40:29.000 You know?

01:40:29.000 Now you never can!

01:40:30.000 Like, this is really blowing my mind!

01:40:32.000 Now I never can!

01:40:33.000 I'm never gonna be able to serve on a jury!

01:40:35.000 When you're a strong feign weakness.

01:40:37.000 All you have to do, if you never want to serve jury duty, is say, a simple sentence.

01:40:43.000 If ever selected for jury duty, I will nullify in every circumstance.

01:40:49.000 Done.

01:40:49.000 I like jury nullification.

01:40:50.000 It should be used more.

01:40:51.000 But they'll arrest you.

01:40:53.000 There's been activists outside of courts advocating for jury nullification and they arrest you for it because they're like, you can't do this!

01:40:59.000 But the jurors themselves can do it and they won't get messed with?

01:41:02.000 So it's interesting because yes, you as the jury have ultimate power in deciding whether or not someone is guilty, but what they do is they'll say, you are not allowed.

01:41:12.000 They'll be like, you must disregard your personal feelings.

01:41:14.000 The only question that matters is, so I'll give you an example, Illinois.

01:41:19.000 Two houses.

01:41:20.000 One family was asked to watch over their neighbor's house.

01:41:22.000 Neighbors went on vacation.

01:41:24.000 It was a small town.

01:41:25.000 The police knew that this family was on vacation.

01:41:27.000 The kid went in the back door, opened the fridge to steal a beer.

01:41:31.000 He was like 18 or something.

01:41:32.000 I said, kid, he's a man.

01:41:33.000 Cops driving by saw the light on, knowing the family wasn't there.

01:41:37.000 Approached the house.

01:41:38.000 Freeze! 0.97

01:41:39.000 Ah, you're under arrest.

01:41:40.000 What are you doing?

01:41:40.000 And he's like, ah, you're like, you're robbing this house.

01:41:43.000 When it went to court, he said the families were all like, we don't care.

01:41:48.000 They took a beer.

01:41:49.000 We told them they could watch the house.

01:41:50.000 And they're like, nope, it's burglary.

01:41:52.000 It's theft.

01:41:53.000 And then a judge was like, there's a mandatory sentence for this.

01:41:56.000 It doesn't matter what you think or what the state is prosecuting.

01:41:59.000 So then he said, we'll go to trial then.

01:42:01.000 At trial, they were like, it doesn't matter to the jury what you think is right.

01:42:06.000 What matters is, was the law broken?

01:42:09.000 He did not have permission to go in and take from the refrigerator, which is burglary, which is theft.

01:42:14.000 So he must be found guilty.

01:42:16.000 If you agree with those facts, you must find him guilty.

01:42:19.000 And they went, I guess he's right.

01:42:21.000 They could have said, no, not guilty.

01:42:22.000 Because it's a poor execution of the law, so you nullify the case.

01:42:26.000 Yes.

01:42:26.000 And the judge, apparently something happened where the judge was like, I'm not sending this kid to prison over this.

01:42:31.000 Are you insane?

01:42:32.000 And then the prisons were like, we are not accepting this person. 1.00

01:42:35.000 Are you insane? 0.99

01:42:36.000 And there's like, just, it's, Illinois is an evil place. 1.00

01:42:39.000 I'll put it that way.

01:42:40.000 I'm probably like butchering the story.

01:42:41.000 It's been 20 years, but that's like the gist of it.

01:42:44.000 That everyone was just like, why is this guy going through the system this way?

01:42:47.000 The jurors were like, why are we convicting this guy?

01:42:49.000 And everyone's like, well, but you have to.

01:42:51.000 But the reality was the jurors could have been like, I don't care what you say.

01:42:53.000 I don't care what you think, he's not guilty.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, I feel like it's weird to be in a circumstance where you're like, okay, suspend all of your values and make a decision.

01:43:01.000 Like, how could you possibly separate yourself from that, actually?

01:43:04.000 That's like being a judge.

01:43:05.000 I was spending time with a girl that has been studying, Lauren Day Laguna, what's up, for getting her, she passed the bar and has studied law, and the impartiality is fascinating of being a judge.

01:43:14.000 You're just like, I know the law, that is a violation of it, continue.

01:43:19.000 Stop.

01:43:19.000 You're violating it.

01:43:20.000 Stop.

01:43:21.000 Continue.

01:43:22.000 It doesn't matter what you think, what you feel.

01:43:24.000 The knowledge is present.

01:43:25.000 I get that from being a judge, but for a juror, it seems impossible to ask.

01:43:29.000 That guy, Sal Roca, says, Greetings from Fremont, Ohio, Tim.

01:43:32.000 We love you here and we have JR's back in his bid to be our rep.

01:43:35.000 Make Northwest Ohio great again.

01:43:37.000 Awesome.

01:43:38.000 Right on.

01:43:39.000 Oh, I didn't even mention it.

01:43:41.000 Luke Rutkowski had me out to tactical training.

01:43:42.000 Twice.

01:43:42.000 by Jesus Christ more swole and running sub-five-second drills, rifle-pistol drills.

01:43:55.000 We did knife practice and then we did a lot of shooting and stuff.

01:43:58.000 And what's great about it is once you do it, once you start to train, you don't have to think about it anymore.

01:44:02.000 You just are able to react in those situations.

01:44:04.000 That's, and it's kind of like, I was like, Oh, I don't want to go back and talk about world war three and all this crap.

01:44:08.000 But it's like, what I'm doing is I'm training.

01:44:11.000 It's like tactical training for my mind.

01:44:12.000 Muscle memory.

01:44:13.000 Yeah.

01:44:14.000 And so this, the metaphor of doing both the weapons training and the knowledge training of knowing about this horror is like, I don't have to think about it now that I know I can just react to the system.

01:44:25.000 But I highly recommend tactical training and having some weapons training if you have an opportunity.

01:44:29.000 All right, Paul Tascolo says, new theory. When a 2024 Trump victory is apparent,

01:44:35.000 Democrats will admit they did steal the election from Trump in 2020,

01:44:38.000 and therefore he can't be elected in 2024 because it would mean he'd be elected for a third term.

01:44:41.000 Well, what they would say is you can't get elected a third time.

01:44:47.000 Not term.

01:44:48.000 But yeah.

01:44:49.000 Definitely not gonna happen, but funny.

01:44:50.000 Wilpo IRL says, Kennedy is going to win against Nikki Haley and Dean Phillips.

01:44:55.000 Trump is going to spend the week of the convention in house arrest.

01:44:59.000 Biden can't walk.

01:45:00.000 How is he going to run?

01:45:01.000 Haha!

01:45:02.000 The election is the dark horse election.

01:45:05.000 It would be really funny if just like two months before the election some random person no one's ever heard of just appears and just gets all the support.

01:45:12.000 I was picturing like they give him like a trophy at the end of the at the end of the track and they're like okay you guys gotta run whoever gets that's gonna be president and they're like literally just comes down to you gotta run for president.

01:45:23.000 Well we know who would trip and fall over their own feet.

01:45:26.000 Dude, we need a strong commander, man.

01:45:28.000 Yeah, we do.

01:45:29.000 Trump's the only guy, man, I'm telling you.

01:45:31.000 I mean, I think we all agree with that, but he's absolutely the guy that we need right now.

01:45:35.000 We need to cauterize a lot of things, and he's the match that's going to do it.

01:45:39.000 I firmly believe it.

01:45:41.000 All right.

01:45:41.000 William Trash says, Tim and Ian, my girlfriend's dog Leo was put down today.

01:45:45.000 He would have been 14 in January.

01:45:47.000 She would really appreciate it if you guys could say a few words.

01:45:50.000 He was a good boy.

01:45:51.000 Leo wasn't just a good boy.

01:45:53.000 He was the best of boys and we mourn his passing for every good boy is a best friend.

01:46:01.000 Leo's spirit is still here witnessing you and he will be for a while and then he'll go off and he'll be back with you.

01:46:13.000 He's going to evolve too.

01:46:14.000 He's going to come back and inhabit something greater.

01:46:16.000 Thank you.

01:46:20.000 All right, well.

01:46:21.000 Sorry to hear, William.

01:46:22.000 Sorry to hear.

01:46:24.000 But condolences.

01:46:26.000 All right, Riding with Ryan says, I saw the movie We Were Soldiers as a kid.

01:46:30.000 Pretty young for the movie, but not too young.

01:46:32.000 I've grown up strongly against war.

01:46:35.000 Yeah, how about Saving Private Ryan?

01:46:36.000 Yeah, that's a good one.

01:46:37.000 Is that brutal enough?

01:46:38.000 Platoon?

01:46:38.000 Platoon's pretty brutal too.

01:46:41.000 Full Metal Jacket.

01:46:42.000 Full Metal Jacket.

01:46:43.000 Yeah.

01:46:43.000 Apocalypse Now.

01:46:44.000 Just have your six-year-old kids watch Full Metal Jacket.

01:46:47.000 I'm kidding.

01:46:49.000 Nobody says anything like, okay, I guess.

01:46:51.000 They'll think basic training school until they get there.

01:46:54.000 Uh, Total Recall.

01:46:55.000 Have your kids all watch Total Recall.

01:46:58.000 The original one, not the remake, the original one. 0.99

01:47:00.000 When his eyes are about to explode from his head, and the lady has three boobs. 1.00

01:47:04.000 Yep. 0.99

01:47:07.000 Don't make him like they used to.

01:47:08.000 All right, all right.

01:47:10.000 Ben says protests happening in Minneapolis started at 6 p.m.

01:47:12.000 Central Time.

01:47:13.000 They were chanting, from the river to the sea, we will never be free.

01:47:17.000 Is that what they're- how do you even chant that?

01:47:21.000 You will never be free?

01:47:22.000 What?

01:47:23.000 Well, they chant, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

01:47:26.000 There's like, there's a rhythm to it, right?

01:47:29.000 From the river to the sea, we will never be free.

01:47:31.000 Is that how you do it?

01:47:32.000 B?

01:47:32.000 Extend it?

01:47:33.000 There must be... I don't know if it's perfectly paraphrased here.

01:47:36.000 Yeah, we will never be free, I don't know about that.

01:47:39.000 We will be free.

01:47:42.000 We will never be free?

01:47:43.000 Yeah, I don't know why you'd say that.

01:47:44.000 I don't know why you'd probably say that.

01:47:45.000 I'm sure they're being misquoted, but who knows?

01:47:47.000 Maybe not.

01:47:48.000 Jason Barger says, I think war should be put up to a vote from the people.

01:47:51.000 And if you vote in favor of war, you get put at the front of the line for conscription.

01:47:55.000 Agreed!

01:47:56.000 Everyone would then vote against war every single time.

01:48:00.000 Every time.

01:48:00.000 Well, technically, if our representatives listen to their constituents and the president actually followed the rules, then we would have that mechanism.

01:48:08.000 Yeah.

01:48:09.000 Well, you could also, here's the choices.

01:48:11.000 If you support war, if you vote in favor of it, you're conscripted frontline infantry.

01:48:16.000 If you vote against it, you voted against it, congratulations, you don't got to fight or you can abstain.

01:48:21.000 And what would happen is if you really do want the war but don't want to fight, you just don't vote.

01:48:25.000 And then maybe the people who do fight and want war will vote for it and then they will win the vote.

01:48:33.000 So it's still possible for there to be war in certain circumstances without the majority of people voting for it.

01:48:38.000 But I think overwhelmingly what would happen is the no's would be 80%.

01:48:42.000 Or the Democrats would steal the election.

01:48:46.000 The Democrats would just rig, we're going to war!

01:48:48.000 World War III again!

01:48:49.000 And then the Republicans would be like, slow down there Democrats.

01:48:54.000 And they'll go to the speed limit and do the same thing.

01:48:56.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:48:57.000 says, shout out all my fellow handymen.

01:49:01.000 Yeah, it's funny.

01:49:01.000 That's funny.

01:49:02.000 The handymen are billionaires with private jets because they're the only ones who know how to fix things and no one else does.

01:49:07.000 Dude, Raymond G. Stanley truly is handy.

01:49:10.000 And Randy Marsh is like, if you fix my stove, I'll teach you geology.

01:49:14.000 I have a PhD.

01:49:16.000 It's a completely worthless profession in terms of day-to-day living.

01:49:22.000 What do geologists do right now?

01:49:24.000 Maybe they make some money, like, surveying, I'm imagining.

01:49:28.000 Well, I know that there are some that they do, uh...

01:49:33.000 They get aerial photographs.

01:49:34.000 They look for minerals, veins, and things like that.

01:49:36.000 They know where to find them and why.

01:49:38.000 But I mean like in terms of actual geological research, what do they do?

01:49:40.000 A lot of geologists that I know work in the petroleum industry.

01:49:44.000 That's where their background is because of science.

01:49:46.000 I couldn't say.

01:49:47.000 I just say I wanted to date a car guy because then I never had to deal with my car again, you know?

01:49:53.000 Like having someone in your life who is practical and can actually fix things is great.

01:49:59.000 Boggarts IT says 60 of 66 credits 30k in debt no degree because I failed college algebra three times now running my own phone repair business and could use that 30k Yep, I just want to mention something as a total aside because this person's name was Bogart Do you guys know what a boggart is from Harry Potter?

01:50:20.000 What is it like a like a witch?

01:50:22.000 It's not a witch like a troll in the in the in the woods in the woods a bar Yeah, those are the things that take the shape of your worst fear and Everyone's right now saying what he's talking about.

01:50:31.000 No.

01:50:32.000 No hold on like this.

01:50:32.000 I was thinking about this recently There's a classic reference.

01:50:34.000 What do you mean?

01:50:35.000 You don't get it?

01:50:36.000 Yeah, it's Harry Potter, man.

01:50:39.000 But this is important because in the movie, in the book, it's like the teacher, he looks at it and turns into the moon because he's a werewolf and he's scared of that or whatever.

01:50:48.000 And then I was just thinking about it and I'm like, the concept created by JK Rowling is really stupid because it's impossible.

01:50:55.000 You know why? 0.96

01:50:56.000 Do you know what every person would see if a manifestation of their worst fear appeared before them?

01:51:03.000 A lot of people in a crowd.

01:51:04.000 Their dead kids.

01:51:06.000 Their dead wife, their dead husband, their dead child.

01:51:09.000 The greatest fear of the average person is not bees or clowns.

01:51:13.000 It is staring at the dead body of their loved one.

01:51:16.000 Yeah.

01:51:17.000 True.

01:51:17.000 And I'm like, oh, so that was a weird idea.

01:51:19.000 But anyway, I just like, Boggart reminded me of this thing I was thinking about, and I'm like...

01:51:23.000 But then actually, apparently that was in the book.

01:51:25.000 That like, I guess it was like, uh, Ron's mom.

01:51:28.000 Yeah.

01:51:29.000 Ron's mom saw her kids.

01:51:30.000 Dead.

01:51:31.000 Which was...

01:51:31.000 Dead.

01:51:32.000 Very sad, right?

01:51:33.000 And also when they do it in the book, you have to remember they're like, you know, I don't even know, middle school age, high school age children.

01:51:39.000 So the fears are very different.

01:51:40.000 I think Ron's fear was getting yelled at by essentially his mom or something like that.

01:51:43.000 Fear is an interesting word because there's probably different kinds of fear.

01:51:46.000 I was up really high, like 28 stories and out on a balcony and I was like, whoa.

01:51:50.000 Oh, push couldn't, like that weird feeling of like getting, that fear of the heights is different than the fear of losing a loved one, like that terror.

01:51:57.000 But it's similar, but it's like it's hitting different areas of my body.

01:52:00.000 Yeah, I get what you mean.

01:52:01.000 Yeah, different kinds of fear.

01:52:03.000 Is there a list of the seven different fears or something, like the different love?

01:52:06.000 Oh, that's awesome, that's funny.

01:52:07.000 Because they're, it's true.

01:52:09.000 Like the fear I feel when I see like a wasp flying towards me is a totally different feeling from the fear of like when war is about to start.

01:52:17.000 Like, the feeling that I got when they announced the personnel deployments of Be Careful With Troops and the two carrier groups going to the Mediterranean, it's like a sinking feeling of dread.

01:52:28.000 But then when I see a wasp, it's like a shock where I'm just like, ah!

01:52:31.000 Like an adrenaline rush, but I'm not...

01:52:33.000 Really scared, it's more of like a bleh!

01:52:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:52:35.000 Apparently there are three types of fear, main types.

01:52:38.000 Primal, irrational, and rational.

01:52:40.000 No.

01:52:40.000 So the war type would be irrational.

01:52:42.000 It would be rational fear to fear war, whereas my fear of standing up high on a balcony is irrational.

01:52:47.000 Or maybe it's primal.

01:52:48.000 No, that's not irrational.

01:52:49.000 Irrational fear is like phobia. 0.80

01:52:50.000 It's like, oh, it's a clown!

01:52:52.000 Oh, I'm terrified! 0.75

01:52:52.000 That's irrational. 0.75

01:52:53.000 And primal would be... Bees? 0.66

01:52:56.000 Something that could kill you?

01:52:58.000 Snakes?

01:52:59.000 Something that induces fight or flight, probably.

01:53:02.000 Yeah, so there are things, like when cats see cucumbers, that's primal fear.

01:53:06.000 Like, they're clearly not scared of the cucumber, but... I think it could be a snake.

01:53:09.000 Because cats evolved to be alert when they see something that looks like a snake, and it's helped them survive, it's more primal.

01:53:15.000 Rational is like, a bee will sting me, I will die.

01:53:17.000 And so I am afraid of that. 0.98

01:53:19.000 Irrational is, ah, it's a clown run!

01:53:21.000 That's just a guy in a costume, why are you scared of that?

01:53:23.000 When I'm up high and I get that fear of the falling off the edge, I wonder if that's primal, because like some ancient ancestor fell from great heights and it's in my DNA or something?

01:53:30.000 No, no, no, no.

01:53:31.000 Because the humans who survived didn't fall.

01:53:34.000 And so the humans who are more likely to be afraid of heights were more likely to survive.

01:53:39.000 So now within you, it's ingrained.

01:53:41.000 But in terms of the different types of fear, I'm saying like, you get jump scares.

01:53:46.000 You turn a movie on and then the ghost goes, boo!

01:53:48.000 And you're like, ah!

01:53:49.000 Primal fear.

01:53:50.000 That's not primal fear.

01:53:51.000 Stuff jumping out at you?

01:53:52.000 No, bro.

01:53:53.000 I'm talking about, you know, there's like Eros and Phobos or whatever.

01:53:57.000 That's not the same thing as you're describing.

01:53:59.000 No, this is not.

01:54:01.000 The Greeks have the ten kinds of love.

01:54:02.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:54:03.000 But this is like three types of psychological fear.

01:54:04.000 Because there's rational and irrational love as well.

01:54:06.000 Some people irrationally love inanimate objects and they should not.

01:54:09.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:11.000 That's totally different from what I'm trying to say.

01:54:12.000 This is a great topic.

01:54:13.000 This would be well worth diving into.

01:54:14.000 It's interesting.

01:54:14.000 It is.

01:54:14.000 My biggest fear is a geriatric president.

01:54:17.000 Well, you got it.

01:54:18.000 I'm scared to live in America right now.

01:54:20.000 Living in a constant nightmare.

01:54:21.000 Yeah.

01:54:22.000 You open the cabinet, the boggart comes out, and it's Joe Biden.

01:54:25.000 Dude, I'm joking.

01:54:26.000 That's the best part.

01:54:27.000 Alright, here we go.

01:54:28.000 Polly Puree says, I worked at a nuclear power plant years ago.

01:54:31.000 Water very tightly contains the radiation.

01:54:33.000 They kept the rods in a swimming pool.

01:54:35.000 Yeah, so there's a story of a scuba diver who got sucked into like an intake valve and was swimming in the reactor pool totally fine.

01:54:42.000 Because water blocks radiation.

01:54:44.000 Yeah, probably in the spent fuel pool.

01:54:46.000 If he was in the reactor pool, it'd be a different story.

01:54:48.000 There you go, that might have been it.

01:54:49.000 There's also, I believe it was in Japan, construction workers, so they were working around the spent fuel pool and they had a glass tube.

01:55:01.000 And they stuck the tube into the water and he looked into it and it pretty much fried his brain.

01:55:01.000 Right.

01:55:06.000 No, I don't know if that's like tribal to the nuclear industry, if it's like the boogeyman and we all talk about it.

01:55:12.000 But I've heard that story.

01:55:13.000 Because he created a path for the radiation.

01:55:15.000 That's crazy.

01:55:15.000 Yeah.

01:55:16.000 And that's why I always get bothered in movies when they have like a remote control underwater drone or something, because I've done this drone work.

01:55:21.000 I'm like, it's impossible.

01:55:23.000 You can't broadcast signals through water.

01:55:26.000 It blocks radiation.

01:55:27.000 So underwater drones are wired.

01:55:30.000 And that's why the drones they do have, they're wired and they do shallow surveys of ships and stuff.

01:55:34.000 But going deeper, it has to be a wired connection because water blocks radiation.

01:55:40.000 Also, I love how in space, liquid nitrogen is what they use to insulate to keep something warm.

01:55:45.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:55:51.000 You think it's the opposite.

01:55:52.000 Yeah, it would.

01:55:52.000 But that's not how vacuums work.

01:55:53.000 Also, you don't freeze in outer space.

01:55:55.000 I can't stand movies when it's like they're in outer space and they're freezing.

01:55:57.000 It's because there's no moisture?

01:55:59.000 Because there's no convection.

01:56:01.000 The heat can't escape your body to anywhere, so it stays where it is.

01:56:04.000 And builds up and you get hotter and hotter and then you die.

01:56:07.000 Yeah.

01:56:09.000 So, like, in order for heat to leave your body, you need to blow it away and transfer the heat from one... it has to... convection.

01:56:17.000 That's kind of like a nuclear meltdown situation.

01:56:18.000 That's why the stuff melts down, because it can't get the heat out of it.

01:56:21.000 Yeah.

01:56:21.000 In outer space, there's nowhere for the heat to go.

01:56:23.000 You're in a vacuum.

01:56:23.000 So you melt down.

01:56:24.000 That's wild.

01:56:24.000 Yeah, it's like in a thermos.

01:56:26.000 The reason... the way these things work is they're vacuumed on, you know, on all sides but one.

01:56:30.000 And so heat can only escape up, whereas with a regular mug, it's escaping in every direction.

01:56:36.000 Anyway, the more you know.

01:56:37.000 It's the best part of having a political show is dropping all the science we learn along the way.

01:56:42.000 It's absolutely how they contain spent nuclear fuel.

01:56:45.000 All right, Tyrion says, as a Coloradan, TDS is strong here in the cities.

01:56:51.000 What were you saying?

01:56:52.000 They secure nuclear spent fuel?

01:56:57.000 Yeah, they draw a vacuum on the container. 0.95

01:56:58.000 They actually backfill it with helium.

01:57:01.000 Wow.

01:57:02.000 Yeah, they draw the vacuum, backfill it with helium, and then the stainless steel shell can heat, but it's within... Does the helium help normalize the pressure while insulating?

01:57:13.000 And the temperature, right?

01:57:13.000 Yeah, interesting.

01:57:15.000 You know, helium's finite, and we're running out.

01:57:17.000 Yep.

01:57:18.000 We gotta fuse some hydrogen.

01:57:19.000 Well, once we figure out fusion, we'll be able to mass-produce helium, too.

01:57:23.000 So about that deuterium oxide.

01:57:25.000 That's right!

01:57:25.000 It's heavy hydrogen.

01:57:26.000 When you add a neutron to the hydrogen, smash it together in a palladium lattice.

01:57:30.000 I was talking with Richie earlier.

01:57:32.000 He was like, fission is... Which one is fission and fusion?

01:57:35.000 And we were talking about fusion reactors and fusion engines.

01:57:38.000 And it was an interesting conversation.

01:57:40.000 I'm going to connect you guys to a buddy of mine that actually has a startup company and he's right now going through the licensing process and through the grant process with the DOE that he's probably the strongest advocate right now in the country to recycle spent nuclear fuel.

01:57:55.000 Genius guy.

01:57:56.000 I think you'd love him.

01:57:58.000 All right, Keegan Mazzo says, welcome back Ian.

01:58:00.000 There's a Russian Orthodox monastery being built in Wayne, West Virginia.

01:58:04.000 I am planning a pilgrimage to it soon.

01:58:06.000 I would like to know if you wanted to go and see it as well.

01:58:09.000 To get into contact with me, you can find me on the discord, Keegan Mazzo.

01:58:14.000 We should film it.

01:58:15.000 Yeah, that does sound cool.

01:58:16.000 We should do like a little mini, like 10 minute visit to the Russian Orthodox monastery and like, you know, ask them what it's all about.

01:58:21.000 That'd be great.

01:58:22.000 Yes.

01:58:23.000 Yeah, fun stuff.

01:58:26.000 We'll, uh, we'll grab some more.

01:58:27.000 We'll grab some more.

01:58:28.000 Where we at?

01:58:30.000 Just leave me alone says Florida Trump County.

01:58:32.000 What does it say does not understand about that?

01:58:34.000 Oh, there you go.

01:58:37.000 Madeline Bradgett says I work in nuclear engineering.

01:58:40.000 You guys are doing a decent job explaining.

01:58:42.000 Risk is actually small and there's a ton of backup protection.

01:58:45.000 It would bring a lot of high paying technical jobs.

01:58:48.000 It's clean energy.

01:58:50.000 Carbon, carbon emission free.

01:58:52.000 We should be building nuclear plants all over the place.

01:58:55.000 So to be clear to the audience, I am not an engineer by trade.

01:58:57.000 I have a master's degree in business.

01:58:59.000 I was someone that was in management.

01:59:02.000 I managed and led a lot of smart engineers that were a heck of a lot smarter than me.

01:59:07.000 So my scientific knowledge or my technical knowledge is all just based on observation.

01:59:14.000 So some of the questions you asked me, I can't answer them because I didn't have the technical background.

01:59:19.000 Alright.

01:59:21.000 Not a fake it till you make it good.

01:59:22.000 You did answer them, but you were honest.

01:59:24.000 It's all from me learning and observing the people that work with me.

01:59:29.000 Isaac Gorski says, why the hell don't we just use the wheels of the cars to create motion-powered cars with their own power source?

01:59:35.000 That's right!

01:59:36.000 I saw this really funny video, you may have seen it, where it's a car and they've got a generator strapped to the back right wheel.

01:59:45.000 So when the wheel spins, it spins the generator and is charging, and they're like, wow, that's so smart! 0.84

01:59:51.000 And these people are so dumb, they don't understand the conservation of energy, they don't understand the basic laws of thermodynamics, that all he's doing is robbing his vehicle of energy by doing that.

02:00:03.000 Yeah, but you know, I will say, shout out to Mythbusters, they created an internal, what was it? 0.98

02:00:09.000 It was an internal kinetic motor, and so the idea was that you could not create an engine that was inside a boat to cause motion, because equal and opposite reaction, but it actually disproved it, and they were able to create forward motion with an internal engine.

02:00:25.000 Basically the way it worked was, It fires, it sits in the middle of the boat, doesn't touch the water, and it fires a piston.

02:00:31.000 And then when the piston hits the end, it pulls everything forward.

02:00:35.000 And the idea is, the pressure of moving the piston forward creates an opposite reaction in the other direction, which should prevent the boat from moving forward.

02:00:42.000 But I'm pretty sure that it was MythBuzzer who did this.

02:00:44.000 They actually were able to drive the boat forward using internal... I think it's because the earth is round and you're kind of always falling forward when you're in the water.

02:00:53.000 There goes the flat earthers.

02:00:55.000 Ian, that is very wrong.

02:00:56.000 It might have something to do with it.

02:00:58.000 But the way the waves always kind of move towards the shore, like that is something.

02:01:01.000 The moon also is pulling you.

02:01:03.000 The issue, I think it was actually really simple math, was that the initial reaction which fired the piston does create a reaction in both directions.

02:01:12.000 And then the catching of the piston creates a minor shock in one direction is what caused it.

02:01:18.000 And then they've also got really interesting, I was watching something about Using, uh, what was it, like firing electrons or photons inside a device and then at, uh, so this would work in outer space.

02:01:31.000 The amount of force created from electrons hitting a plate internally would have no effect on Earth because of friction and weight and gravity, but in outer space it would build up enough to where over time it would create speed.

02:01:43.000 Yeah, when you heat up one, it's kind of how spores travel through space.

02:01:47.000 The brighter side of the spore is on top, and then the dark side's underneath, so the brighter side orients towards a star and then begins to spin, which creates gyration and momentum.

02:01:57.000 I just love science.

02:01:58.000 It's so fun.

02:02:00.000 We gotta go.

02:02:01.000 Regarding, we'll just do this real quick, regarding catching energy out of a system like out of your car, you can get what's called extropy, which is a little bit of lost energy can be reused.

02:02:08.000 It doesn't give you enough to propel the system like a computer.

02:02:11.000 All that heat coming out of your computer can be used to like heat water and can heat the pipes in your house.

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02:02:31.000 JR, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:32.000 No, just, you know, thanks for having me on and shout out to all the people in Northwest Ohio.

02:02:36.000 We're gonna beat Marcy Kaptur this cycle, and I'd appreciate a follow on Twitter or any other form of social media.

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02:02:45.000 How far from Pittsburgh?

02:02:46.000 About three hours.

02:02:47.000 Three hours?

02:02:48.000 We're looking at doing an event in Pittsburgh.

02:02:49.000 Want to invite the Ohioans to come hang out?

02:02:50.000 I'd love to come.

02:02:51.000 They love you in the 9th, dude.

02:02:51.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:02:53.000 Yeah?

02:02:54.000 They love us red, white, and blue Americans, man.

02:02:57.000 I went to Pittsburgh last weekend, and I've never been recognized more.

02:03:00.000 Basically, like, I went to a poker room, and the lady was there, she was like, I knew it was you.

02:03:03.000 And I was like, oh, thanks.

02:03:04.000 And then, like, every table, they're like, oh, hey, look who it is. 0.98

02:03:06.000 I'm like, damn, Pittsburgh people know me, I guess. 0.96

02:03:08.000 Midwest is the best, man. 0.97

02:03:09.000 But I think it's because I have Chicago sensibilities, and so it's like, Midwesterners are, you know, we kind of see these things, and we're not the coasts, it makes sense, but anyway.

02:03:20.000 Well, I'm all for the pro-Pittsburgh talking points, even though I've never been there.

02:03:25.000 I am really glad that we were here tonight.

02:03:26.000 It was a fun conversation.

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02:03:50.000 What's the site?

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02:03:55.000 Thanks, brother.

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