Project Veritas exposes a CNN employee who claims to have been on camera saying that the network is trying to get Donald Trump ousted from office because they are spreading fear through the use of fake news and fear-mongering to push a climate change narrative. This episode of Conspiracy Theories is brought to you by The Daily Caller and the Washington Examiner.
00:01:11.000There's already been some protests I've seen in Minnesota.
00:01:14.000It might chill out throughout the rest of the week and then pick up again this weekend, which is really bad because the Chauvin deliberations should be taking place early next week, we think, so far.
00:01:25.000But we do got, man, one of the biggest stories, and...
00:01:28.000It's always really hard to properly provide commentary on a story from Project Veritas for one simple reason, which I will tell you in a second.
00:01:37.000Project Veritas has released undercover footage of a CNN technical director saying that they were just trying to get Donald Trump out of office, that they effectively produced propaganda, they're going to be producing fear content to push a climate change narrative.
00:01:51.000And you know why it's really hard to provide commentary on this?
00:01:54.000Because I'm just like, when I see this story, I'm like, oh yeah, I know.
00:02:20.000Unfortunately, as much as this is huge, Project Veritas, will they be able to break that news to regular people who are still hooked in to the CNN narrative?
00:03:40.000Of course, we got Ian Ian Crosland coming at you with a periodic table in one hand and a cup of coffee in the other, ready to talk about metamaterials with Tom and UFO machines, but also let's talk about things happening on Earth.
00:05:38.000This is an ABC affiliate reporting this, which if local news outlets are picking up Project Veritas, the story is pretty big.
00:05:45.000They say Veritas unveiled a video Tuesday that says that the group says is of a CNN staffer describing how the network worked to show then-presidential candidate Joe Biden in a favorable light during the 2020 campaign.
00:05:56.000The undercover video captured a man the self-proclaimed conservative watchdog group identified as CNN technical director Charlie Chester, I'm not sure Veritas is ever self-proclaimed to be conservative watchdogs, but I digress, saying he decided to work with the network because it focused on removing former President Donald Trump.
00:06:12.000Chester also credited CNN as a critical tool in electing Biden.
00:06:16.000Quote, look, what we did, we got, we CNN got Trump out. I am 100% going to say it.
00:06:22.000And I 100% believe that if it wasn't for CNN, I don't know that Trump would have got voted out.
00:06:27.000I came to CNN because I wanted to be a part of that. The man said in one portion of the video,
00:06:32.000Chester was speaking to someone off camera at undisclosed locations.
00:06:35.000He was targeted through the dating app Tinder, according to Mediaite.
00:06:38.000That is impressive work from Project Veritas.
00:06:45.000So they have... James O'Keefe has got young women, like, swiping right on these dudes, like, just scouring Tinder looking for someone who says, I work at CNN.
00:08:04.000I will say, there was one undercover video that Project Veritas got with a guy, I'm not gonna name, that I knew.
00:08:11.000And they had a young woman talking to this guy, and the guy was saying all this stuff about what he could do at the New York Times or whatever.
00:08:17.000And I'm like, dude, he is hamming it up.
00:08:31.000This is someone who's working for CNN, a technical director, who has no problem telling members of the public, be it, is he lying to this young woman about what CNN does?
00:08:40.000He's confident enough, for whatever reason, to say, CNN produces fear, we propagandize, and our goal was political.
00:08:50.000And I do think one of the challenges here, though, for CNN, and of course it applies to other outlets, is that, you know, On one side, you do have, we saw in the campaign, obviously, very anti-Trump coverage, very pro-Biden.
00:09:05.000And the other side, you know, certainly some of their foreign policy correspondents, Kylie Atkins, you know, Jim Schudo, who I think has sort of moved more in the opinion side, you know, do really good reporting.
00:09:16.000So it's a challenge for them in a sense, right, that they, that this, you know, because this is not great for their credibility, the outlets, and it's sort of unfair on them in a sense.
00:09:42.000Because you turn on Sunday morning with CNN, and it's Brian Stelter telling you what Fox News is talking about, and I'm like, what is this?
00:09:48.000How is this in any way news about the media environment?
00:09:51.000Tucker Carlson said something offensive!
00:10:51.000I know they got a big viewership, but when you combine CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, HLN, CNN, et cetera, I mean, we're looking at 30, 40, 50 million views or whatever.
00:11:00.000And then Fox News, they're huge, you know, 3 million views.
00:11:03.000They're rivaling, you know, Rachel Maddow and they're, they're bouncing back and forth between CNN and the rate of beating CNN in the ratings.
00:11:11.000But you combine all of these media outlets and their bias, Fox News doesn't really reach that level.
00:11:16.000So it's like CNN doing that show is really weird in my opinion, but more to the point.
00:11:22.000CNN's coverage has been just absolutely awful, along with many of these other outlets.
00:11:27.000Now we're hearing this guy say all this stuff, I'm just kind of like...
00:11:31.000You know, I have something I call the CNN challenge.
00:12:16.000And so I just called it the Trump Challenge, because that's basically what they're, you know, they're bread and butter.
00:12:20.000Now take all of that information, and someone made a really interesting point.
00:12:24.000With this CNN technical director stating, in numerous videos, we were activists, we were trying to get the president out, the goal was political, we produced propaganda.
00:12:33.000Some people have said that fulfills the actual malice standard now allowing Donald Trump to sue CNN for defamation because you have a CNN staffer, a director on the record saying, yeah, we're full of it.
00:12:46.000Can you use this guy's, is it testimony?
00:12:55.000No, I mean they would have to get him tested.
00:12:58.000I don't think there's any chance of that.
00:12:59.000The actual malice standard, you know, New York Times v. Salomon, which is the case, especially the federal courts, the judiciary in terms of the case on this has been very predisposed towards deference, towards Media speech.
00:13:39.000But I actually, I agree to a certain degree that protecting speech for the media is important, in that sometimes there's a legitimate attempt at reporting news, you make a mistake, and if we sued every time someone got something wrong, There wouldn't be news outlets.
00:14:05.000If CNN writes fake news and Donald Trump says, please correct this, they can say no.
00:14:11.000Then, you know, Trump or somebody will file a defamation suit and the judge will say, anti-slap, you're dismissed, get out.
00:14:18.000So how do you correct the record when these news outlets are lying and you can't break through that, you know, actual mal-standard, that barrier?
00:14:24.000Well, I think the ultimate correction point you would hope, and certainly I believe it is, is that, you know, credibility is lost, right?
00:14:31.000That the consumer ultimately gets to decide what they want with news, right?
00:14:35.000You have people watching this show, you have people watching CNN, whatever their reasons, you have people reading across the gamut of news and commentary, and that ultimately we would hope that people decide actually when they see stuff coming out, and a lack of responsibility, right?
00:14:50.000People are willing to forgive mistakes, that perhaps it's not the place for them to That's the inverse, though.
00:14:56.000If CNN admits they were wrong, they lose credibility.
00:14:59.000Well, they lose credibility with their most loyal base, but I think if they don't admit they're wrong, then no one knows they were wrong.
00:15:07.000Well, I think people are talking about, I mean, Project Veritas, right?
00:15:14.000You note earlier that I think it's absolutely true, the fact that Fox News is in its own, at least in cable news, kind of wilderness.
00:15:21.000And we see this, right, with Newsmax trying to break in there.
00:15:24.000And struggling to get on and we saw actually you know it and it's it's something there's going to be a great battle in the UK coming up with a couple of new networks trying to break in there and some of the lobbying already the BBC they don't want that competition in there Canada with the Sun News Network that wasn't able to be viable because it wasn't able to get on you know providers yeah and and so yeah it's a double-edged sword If you can't force them to correct, we have a very serious problem.
00:15:54.000Because then there's incentive to lie.
00:15:57.000If they write a fake news story, they could be sitting there thinking like, look, the worst case scenario is we write a story saying Donald Trump punches a baby goat, we're going to get 10 million views, we're going to make hundreds of thousands of dollars, and if we have to retract tomorrow, it's no big deal.
00:16:14.000They make money on the retraction as well.
00:16:16.000Yeah, and you know, I think a broader challenge there is that I used to think one of the great solutions to this is we have Google News, right, that you can read around.
00:16:24.000And then I realized, well, Google News seems to be providing some news outlets more equal than others, you know, it's borrowed from Orwell.
00:16:31.000And it's really, I mean, it's true, you know, I don't know.
00:18:04.000Right, I mean it is and you know I do think though if we look at the ability of especially the younger generation to access you know the astuteness with which they are dealing with technology and looking for you know more creative even rebellious kind of outlooks So, that dynamic is only going to continue to grow.
00:18:29.000And I know that sounds kind of basic and shallow and sort of almost kind of corporatist in its simplicity.
00:18:35.000But if you look at foreign locales, for example, the degree to which, for example, Clubhouse is performing, you know, a massive challenge to China, that the censors, this industrial, you know, hundreds of thousands of people employed to constrain flows of information.
00:18:52.000They can't because then there's a sub-clubhouse and then there's, you know, someone goes across and uses a cut-out ISP and, you know, and certainly that's what we've been doing, what the U.S.
00:19:02.000I think the Biden administration has actually cut it off, the CIA program, but... We were allowing Iranians to communicate We were providing them with independent satellite, internet satellite.
00:20:21.000No, I think he's going to just throw him right back into Syria.
00:20:23.000So, you know, we got to make sure we're going to stay vigilant on this one.
00:20:26.000But I do think it's funny when the Babylon Bee reports a story that it is satire.
00:20:31.000They're making fun of it, but it's like Basically the truth, but snarky.
00:20:36.000So that's like, we're in such a world of absurdity that even now, I mean, look, the Biden administration is ripe for parody, especially right now.
00:20:45.000Kyle Kashuv tweeted, I was told by so many people that if we voted for Joe Biden, everything would come back to normal and the violence would stop.
00:21:14.000The analytical, when they have some of the reporters doing their analysis, I think the bias comes through the more.
00:21:19.000But the basic nuts and bolts reporting on there and the ability to kind of go in different places, a lot of that is informed by some of the World Service stuff they do.
00:21:29.000And there are actually pretty good structured checks and balances at BBC.
00:21:34.000I complained about a piece their Russian BBC News wrote about me, about an article I'd written a couple of years ago.
00:21:42.000They have a two-week response to complaints, it goes through a process.
00:21:46.000So, of course, the counterpoint to that is, well, that is being paid for by, you know, the TV license fee, which everyone in the UK has to pay.
00:21:56.000So there's a tax, you know, so this is not, you know... BBC is pretty good.
00:22:00.000But you've got to read around, I suppose.
00:22:33.000But here's the important point about the Times v. Sullivan thing, that Project Veritas has just won and may set precedent for years to come.
00:22:45.000Well, they got past the motion to dismiss, which is huge.
00:22:47.000I think James said only eight times in the past, you know, 80 years or whatever has a motion to dismiss been, have people gotten past that.
00:22:56.000And what the judge basically said is that, you know, well, hold on.
00:22:59.000The New York Times said, These statements about Project Veritas being deceptive are unverifiable opinion, and thus are not actionable.
00:23:09.000And so the judge responded, okay, well, if that was the case, then I guess a fact-based news article, or at least one purporting to be, would have to inform its readers this is an opinion, not assert an opinion as a fact.
00:23:21.000In which case, I guess he's basically saying, if you say, this article I'm about to read to you is 100% fact, Ian is a deceiver and a liar, Then the assumption is I'm saying statements of fact in a newspaper.
00:23:34.000Yeah, I just think when we get to the Supreme Court, I take the point that the case law is trying to, I think the judges are trying to get a little bit more nuance on this.
00:23:42.000And when it gets to the Supreme Court, I think it's probably going to be, you know, eight to one in favor in the New York Times.
00:23:56.000No, that maximal speech for all its cost, lies included, is advantageous over Not so much restricted speech, but the chilling of speech I think that is the great concern in jurisprudence and really foundational actually to the United States I mean and you look at how the contrast in English defamation law for example, which is why you know, we were talking earlier I think why we have the Qatar World Cup.
00:24:21.000It's a very good case to be made for that that the lawyers the Sunday Times and Didn't report as early as they could have on the bribery.
00:24:29.000It's interesting, for example, how much American journalists will get letters from English London PR or legal firms saying, this is highly defamatory, take it down.
00:24:45.000Maybe because it is and it's a lot of lies.
00:24:50.000I think when you're talking about Russian organized crime bosses who like to kill people and it doesn't get reported in the British media because they have a lot of money or take you to court, it's good that I'm writing about that.
00:25:02.000I couldn't do that in England and that matters, that stuff.
00:25:05.000The problem then is that they literally just make things up.
00:25:10.000Activists are dominating these newsrooms.
00:25:12.000And when, you know, the idea works when you have a newsroom that's filled with people of good moral standing.
00:25:18.000You'll have a few bad people trying to lie, but when activists take over a newsroom like they did in the New York Times, and they did, several employees have already resigned or been forced out or written letters about it.
00:25:27.000Then they're just gonna be like, awesome, now we're gonna use Times v. Sullivan to say whatever we want about whoever we want and there's nothing they can do about it.
00:25:34.000Then they literally come out and say, the New York Times said in their defense, our news article which is purporting to be statements of fact are actually unverifiable opinion, and the average reader doesn't know that.
00:25:45.000You know, I guess I have more confidence in the average reader in terms of being more discriminant.
00:25:50.000I think certainly, again, this generational shift.
00:25:53.000I mean, you look at, you know, your viewership.
00:25:57.000The Hill, Sagar and Jetty, and Crystal Ball's show.
00:26:00.000You know, these new-form media places are just growing exponentially.
00:26:04.000And, you know, you've got to think that some of these people are, even if they're not necessarily abandoning, they're still reading the New York Times.
00:26:14.000They're reading around more or viewing around more.
00:26:17.000And so, you know, I do think, again, at some point you're always going to have those people who want to hear what they want to hear.
00:26:23.000But you're also going to have, I think, a lot of people who get slightly frustrated with limited time, right?
00:26:30.000You know, investigative journalism that really stands up is still the best way to generate traffic.
00:26:35.000You know, I'm fairly optimistic, so I would say I agree with you more than I don't.
00:26:39.000I may be concerned about a lot of these lies, but with Substack, with the sheer panic we're seeing in the faces of these corporate media outlets, they're freaking out.
00:26:47.000Glenn Greenwald just announced that he's going to be taking on freelance writers for his Substack.
00:26:52.000Which is like, just the other day I was saying like, man, we gotta see Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald start bringing out people, grow their organizations, use the Substack model to create new news outlets.
00:27:27.000Right now, I think Substack is actually taking most of the money, but they're writing huge advance checks to basically kickstart the careers, or I should say the... You know, right now, there are some people who have like 1,000 or 2,000 paying subscribers.
00:27:42.000It's enough for maybe a younger person, someone who's older with a family, especially a prominent writer is going to be like, I'm going to be losing a lot of money, cutting my salary in half to do this.
00:27:50.000So they're announcing, okay, we'll give you half a million dollars for two years, which is huge.
00:27:55.000And then after the two years is up, we revert the subscriptions back to you and we get 10% or something.
00:28:03.000Yeah and we do see with you know with like Twitchy with gaming the degree to which people are even not for influence which is I think quite refreshing but and the same is true with Substack or at least with Patreon.
00:28:16.000I'm not sure if it is true with Substack.
00:28:18.000Are willing to, you know, pay more for that extra tier, right?
00:28:22.000To me, engage, maybe a phone call, you know, a video conference, whatever.
00:28:26.000And it's not kind of editorial pressure, right?
00:28:28.000That a company that is, you know, buying millions of dollars of ads, you know, so there's that kind of fresher investment portfolio that goes with that.
00:28:37.000And it's also interesting, you think about Matty Glacius from Vox.
00:28:41.000Vox was that kind of fresh startup and he sort of left there and is doing his stuff.
00:28:45.000So there's this constant revolutionary dynamic in media, which you've got to think is positive.
00:28:50.000This is a great thing, because what a lot of these people are realizing too, some of these people have 300-400,000 followers on Twitter, and now they're seeing someone with only 1,000 fans, but real fans, paying 10 bucks a month, these people are now making a six-figure salary, and these people on Twitter are like, You're getting paid?
00:29:09.000I got hundreds of thousands of people and I'm not getting any money.
00:29:12.000You got some people who work, you know, they got hundreds of thousands of followers.
00:29:20.000And they're thinking like, if I got 10,000 of my followers to pay 10 bucks a month, I'd be a millionaire.
00:29:25.000So they're going to start leaving these companies.
00:29:26.000They're going to cut off that editorial oversight.
00:29:29.000And this guy who says, this is what CNN does.
00:29:31.000We propagandize to help Trump, to help, you know, to make Trump lose.
00:29:35.000People are going to leave, and they're not going to be involved in that anymore, and they're going to be like, I can write about whatever I want.
00:29:38.000And then they're going to start, well, a lot of people will just write tribal garbage, because, you know, a lot of people are just tribal garbage.
00:29:44.000But a lot of people are going to write what they feel like writing.
00:29:46.000And I think this is good, because it's going to diversify opinions in a lot of ways.
00:29:49.000And then we're going to watch these news outlets just... Yep.
00:29:52.000And then they will be connected through the confetti-verse.
00:30:15.000We don't need confederacy in this game, Ian.
00:30:17.000These companies that are like, you know, like siphoning off the value of their workers that are like, come work for me and I'll recoup the ad revenue and then pay you a salary.
00:30:35.000Instead of the confederacy, you know what I mean?
00:30:36.000I don't even know, what's the difference between a confederacy and a federacy?
00:30:39.000I think a confederacy is within a unitary political structure at the top, whereas the federation is many different... So the confederacy has one, you know, president and the federation is a sort of council.
00:30:57.000But I may have got that totally wrong, so I'll just shut up!
00:31:00.000It might be the other way around, actually.
00:31:01.000Yeah, like the federal government, you know.
00:32:08.000You know, 32,000 plus viewers, you know, we sometimes reach 50 or even 60.
00:32:13.000We've had over a hundred and some episodes.
00:32:15.000I've calculated those costs with business-to-business companies in the past, and that's going to cost you thousands of dollars per minute or hour.
00:32:24.000Because you've got to understand this.
00:32:26.000The transmission of a high-definition broadcast, 2 megabits per second, going up and then going out to, you know, 40,000 people, so multiply your bandwidth, and like, woo!
00:32:44.000So what are you paying Substack 10% for?
00:32:47.000So we want to make this project, we're actually working on it, Ian spearheading it, where you can download this open source package for your own website that turns your website into your own privately owned subscription service platform, just like a regular website with a membership option.
00:33:01.000But it's like one click and boom, you're done.
00:33:04.000That also networks you with all the other websites that use the same software.
00:33:07.000So effectively, You won't need to go to Substack or Patreon or any of these other subscription services because now someone can own their own website and keep 100% of the revenue that comes in with open source free software.
00:33:30.000And this is going to help decentralize the news media.
00:33:34.000It's going to help decentralize commentary.
00:33:36.000It's going to protect people who would have their income destroyed by a subscription service that says, well, you're offensive and we don't want you on our platform.
00:34:10.000Let's jump to this next story, though, because, you know, we went a little long on that one, but I thought it was worth talking about because the media is trash.
00:34:16.000Yeah, and I forced my daily shout out to the Fediverse.
00:34:42.000The case was sent to the Washington County Attorney's Office to avoid a conflict of interest with the Hennepin County Attorney's Office, which works closely with Brooklyn Center's police on criminal cases.
00:34:51.000The extent of the charges will be learned tomorrow.
00:34:53.000Brooklyn Center police released body camera video that shows Officer Potter shooting and killing 20-year-old Daunte Wright Sunday afternoon.
00:35:00.000Brooklyn Center's former police chief, Tim Gannon, he... the police chief resigned today?
00:36:03.000Where are the regular people standing up and saying, no, don't do this?
00:36:09.000When the police were under threat last year, when the riots were sweeping across the state in these cities, the police were scapegoated, were insulted, berated over the actions of a few.
00:36:20.000I'm not a big fan of the place as a whole.
00:36:23.000But I understand individuals, many of these cops, they're good people.
00:36:26.000They're not trying to get in between and get in politics.
00:36:28.000There are some real risks with trying to neutrally enforce the law when you've got some people saying you gotta do one thing, some people saying you gotta do the other thing, and then accidents happen.
00:37:22.000And the cops stand defiant and say, we will not stand for this.
00:37:25.000But I mean, we've been seeing even conservatives throw Blue Lives Matter flags in the dirt and step on it because the cops were enforcing these unconstitutional lockdowns.
00:37:33.000Right now, what we need are the regular people to prove that they actually want the police.
00:37:40.000If they won't do that, then, as far as I'm concerned, the vote's in.
00:38:22.000All the good cops, I should say all of them, but many of the good cops quit last year.
00:38:25.000In Seattle, in Portland, and in Minneapolis, we saw across the country in Exodus, the good cops were the ones saying, I will not be abused, I will not be a party to this, and I will not stand by while the DA, the prosecutors, allow rioters to destroy these cities, and they do nothing.
00:38:46.000So at this point, I'm dumbfounded as the police who think they're going to be accept- what they're doing is acceptable in a community that absolutely despises them.
00:38:54.000I also think that we have to be careful here though, because I think the very best cops stay for all this in the same way that some of the very best, you know, members of the military or whatever professional branch under pressure, nurses, you know, that they- a sense of duty, which is kind of Antithetical to some of the contemporary discourse, but people who truly believe that kinship of service, of going out there and still doing it, whether for religious reasons, just moral reasons.
00:39:27.000I agree that, at the political level, I agree with you.
00:39:31.000I'm surprised that, frankly, the Republican Party hasn't been more aggressive in terms of saying, hey look, body cameras, zero-sum game, let's get those body cameras, everyone, right?
00:39:41.000It's great, good cops, love it, great evidence, okay?
00:39:45.000They get, you know, locker room talk is caught in the car.
00:39:48.000But most of us in society think, okay, fine.
00:39:52.000But at the level of, you know, again Rashida Tlaib, right, who is held up as by the media will say on one hand, well she doesn't represent the Democratic Party, on the other hand this great sort of new visionary for the party, you know, having the cake and eating it, you know, this is pretty wacko stuff.
00:40:11.000The big issue is that these cops will arrest these extremists, the rioters, the looters.
00:40:15.000And then the DA will say, you're free to go and release them without charge.
00:40:19.000A bunch of felony charges in Portland got dropped.
00:40:22.000And these cops are like, well, I'll just keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome.
00:40:26.000Or I guess some of the cops are probably like, well, I know they're not going to jail, but I sure love bashing skulls.
00:40:33.000So let me let me slow down for a minute state police who were brought in to Portland Retreated saying we arrest these people and the prosecutors let them go.
00:40:45.000And then what happened was the DHS deputized state police as federal law enforcement so that when the state police arrested someone the federal prosecutors could step in and Brilliant.
00:40:58.000No escalation of force, no military coming in, and now these people were getting prosecuted, and you know what happened?
00:41:54.000I also think one of the great tragic, you know, ironies here is that, you know, the Black Lives Matter movement, you know, trying to address, you know, real issues.
00:42:05.000At the same time, the utter unwillingness to face up to the fact that we talk about what do police officers do, for example, Well, we've seen it right in the in the summer crime waves baltimore, uh chicago It was a baltimore sun columnist who wrote a great piece on this.
00:42:19.000I think you know a year ago The cops stop doing their job, right that they that I am not going to entertain this personal risk to me this liability vilification In case I get it wrong and what is the consequence of that?
00:42:32.000Well in some of these areas in many of these cities where the predominant homicide issue is young black men killing other young black men More young black men die and and and and as a society then when we have Rashida Tlaib saying this Does she seriously care about the interest she's talking about the facts would suggest I would say forensically that she does not And and making that case, you know, you would think there would be opportunities here for you know young Republican mares independent mares to run and say hey
00:43:04.000We are going to have accountability on the part of the police.
00:43:09.000You know, very well funded internal affairs departments.
00:43:12.000But at the same time, we're going to go out and try and stop criminality.
00:43:16.000And there's a racism in the sense that people wouldn't want that.
00:43:19.000You know, of course, most people want to be able to live their lives in safety.
00:43:23.000You take a look at what the left tends to care about, what the media tends to report on, and it's getting just so obvious, it's mind numbing.
00:43:30.000You know, there's a viral tweet, I can't remember what it's from, so forgive me, but they were saying something like, the media actually, you know, sorts through all the different news stories, trying to find the one story that would cause the most hate and division, that will get them traffic and get them clicks to their website.
00:44:16.000These people have genuinely gone nuts.
00:44:18.000And then from this, you get people pandering to them.
00:44:21.000The politicians, people like Rashid Tlaib, step up and they say something like, I'm gonna say something mindless and insane and hope that someone votes for me because of it.
00:44:28.000And then the whole system just decays.
00:44:30.000I'm looking at this Tlaib quote that police should be abolished because, this is from Daily Mail, because force is intentionally racist, this is the quote, intentionally racist and cannot be reformed.
00:45:15.000First, it was initially reported that this guy, Dante Wright, was wanted on a misdemeanor gun charge.
00:45:22.000And apparently he got stopped, they found out he had a gun, he fled.
00:45:25.000Now when I heard that, I was like, sounds to me like his only crime was the non-crime of enjoying his Second Amendment rights.
00:45:32.000If that's the case, then this is absolutely wrong.
00:45:34.000However, even if it was, in my opinion, an unjustified and unconstitutional act, you don't resist the police.
00:45:42.000When they come to arrest you, you have the privilege of a trial to defend yourself and actually fight for others in the process, because the precedent set by your cases could help others in the future.
00:45:52.000Instead, he fought with the cops, he dove into the car, they knew he was on a weapons charge, he had a Ruger .45, he ended up getting shot and killed, and it's a tragic story.
00:46:20.000Yeah, he probably should be arrested for that.
00:46:22.000And he resisted and tried running away.
00:46:24.000We have the story actually from the New York Post.
00:46:27.000They say, Dante Wright had an open warrant related to an armed robbery against him when he was shot dead Sunday.
00:46:33.000Wright, 20, and another man had been charged with first-degree attempted aggravated robbery in December 2019 for allegedly trying to steal $820 from a woman at gunpoint, according to Henneman County District Court documents.
00:46:45.000The pair had crashed at the victim's home, crashed at the victim's home in the city of Osseo after attending a party there, then demanded money the next morning while flashing a gun, authorities said in court papers.
00:46:55.000Give me the effing money, I'm not playing around, Wright told the woman, according to prosecutors.
00:46:59.000The victim refused and began screaming for both men to leave, records show.
00:47:05.000Wright allegedly told her, give me the money and we will go.
00:47:08.000The two men eventually left the home without any dough, according to documents.
00:47:11.000Wright was later arrested in the case and released on a $100,000 bail, but he violated his bail conditions in July when he failed to stay in touch with his court monitor, the paper said.
00:47:19.000According to the Daily Mail, he was also in possession of a gun at some point after his arrest for the robbery, which was also in violation of the condition of his bail release.
00:47:27.000So apparently that case was actually derivative of the fact that he tried shaking someone, he tried an armed robbery.
00:47:59.000Also, these police in the area need to... How do they not realize the ramifications, the political consequences of what they're doing, defending what's going on right now?
00:48:08.000If they genuinely believe Chauvin was just doing his job, and these cops are being unjustly prosecuted, morale is low, shouldn't they stand up for themselves?
00:48:16.000So I have very little empathy, if any, for people who are like, I know they're gonna throw someone under the bus, but I'm gonna say nothing, and then I'll be fine.
00:48:24.000Even after saying that, I still recognize the shooting was not intentional.
00:48:28.000I still recognize this guy broke the law and was resisting.
00:48:30.000I still recognize the altercation could have been avoided.
00:48:32.000It was the actions of the individual being pulled over.
00:48:43.000And, you know, I think as well that the circumstances that you identify there certainly will be used at the trial, right?
00:48:50.000If charges, if they try and upcharge beyond negligent manslaughter, right?
00:48:55.000Because that speaks to the circumstances that police officers face them in, right?
00:48:58.000When the dispatcher says, go to this school, it's going to be, you know, proceed with caution, armed, dangerous.
00:49:04.000There's, you know, reasonable suspicion to believe that, which is a probable cause in this case, that this person's capable of violence.
00:49:13.000And the officer would say, okay, I have fear, that's why I didn't think properly.
00:49:17.000But I do think the broader point in terms of the political discourse, you know, as you suggest, has been heavily weighted.
00:49:23.000I just, I guess I'm more, I do think there is, again, this sort of silent majority, yes, needs to be more visible, both at a political level and at a populist level.
00:49:34.000But again, it's the silent Trump voter again, right?
00:49:37.000Most people think this is totally profanity of choice.
00:49:42.000It is interesting, though, that we don't hold Rashida Tlaib in the same kind of disdain that we would if, you know, some of the things that President Trump has tweeted, for example.
00:49:59.000You know, this is really This is kind of UFO, you know, out of space stuff, except UFOs are actually serious.
00:50:07.000You know, I will say in terms of, you know, saying the cop should be arrested, my bigger issue that infuriates me with everything is that there are people Who will privately say to you, I'm so upset with what's going on.
00:50:21.000And then you're like, all right, will you stand up with me?
00:50:24.000Oh no, no, heavens no, I won't take any risk.
00:50:28.000It's like, you know, I've always, uh, I've always respected the idea that, you know, back in the day in these wars, the leader would be on a horse and you would charge in with his men and lead them into battle.
00:50:39.000Now you've got people who are like, yes, look at all these problems.
00:51:44.000Looking for his own future aspirations at the expense of the law.
00:51:47.000But what bothers me is that there were a lot of good cops who walked when this went down and they said, if you're going to play this game, I won't be a part of it.
00:51:57.000And I applaud those cops because those are the good cops.
00:51:59.000Some of them are probably actually bad people, but they're willing to stand up at least for themselves.
00:52:04.000Now this cop just seems like another one of these people who thinks that as the world is burning down around them, they can say nothing and do nothing and they'll be fine.
00:52:12.000I talk about this all the time with like the wokeness, the critical race theory stuff, where people are like, I know it's bad, but as long as I keep my head down, I'll be fine.
00:52:22.000If this really is as bad as people think it is, eventually it will come for you and there's no escaping it.
00:52:26.000Your best chance now is to speak up, otherwise there will be no one left to speak up for you.
00:52:30.000Now she's been involved in this, the political system is dominated by these activists, the city manager got fired for calling for due process, and I'm just like...
00:52:39.000Well, I mean, you knew this was gonna happen.
00:52:41.000You knew it's what they called for last year.
00:52:43.000You knew they literally voted to abolish the police one town over, 10 miles from you.
00:52:50.000A lot of people I know, a lot of good people I've talked to in the Minnesota and Minneapolis area, have straight up said, yeah, we're moving, we're leaving.
00:52:58.000We won't let our tax dollars fund this.
00:53:00.000And then a bunch of people just shrugged it off and said, oh, whatever.
00:53:04.000Okay, well, now you get to be Chauvin.
00:53:05.000But I do think that, you know, again, this stuff does hit a... I agree with you in the broad need to identify, to call out that, you know, the cancel culture, you know, the fake wokery, whatever.
00:53:18.000But at the point of paying taxes, as you suggest, I think a lot of people are like, enough!
00:53:23.000Because especially on these policing matters, it's not simply the matter of taxes.
00:53:28.000It's taxes for, you know, an exigent interest, right?
00:54:50.000If they all resign today, By tomorrow, the police would be totally funded, they'd have better training, much of these problems would be solved, they'd be better equipped, they'd be safer.
00:55:00.000The problem isn't that police have too much funding, it's that they have too little funding.
00:55:05.000We are asking people, and these activists don't remember this, these cops are human beings, to go into situations where people want to kill them.
00:55:29.000These people don't realize this about these cops, that they're not vicious and depraved murderers, and many of these people are psychologically damaged after being involved in these shootings.
00:55:37.000I mean, this woman, I really do believe she accidentally shot this guy, Dante.
00:55:44.000I'm sure she's been crying nonstop, like, mentally just fractured because of this.
00:55:48.000So, with respect, I'm not trying to be mean.
00:55:51.000If the police right now said to the people, we have been dealing with riots non-stop for a year, we have begged for your support, and instead all we have gotten was defunded, insulted, demoralized, abolished, and scapegoated, I think the moral way to do it, though, would be to give, you know, a period of notice.
00:56:15.000Because then at least, you know, when you do it, say, hey, this is now the political responsibility, right?
00:56:21.000The crimes that happen in that window of absent policing.
00:56:25.000But, you know, I also think as well the delusion, right, that anyone who says like Rashida Tlaib, you know, policing, get rid of it, incarceration, doesn't work, great, you know, these are not people who have been exposed to criminality, right?
00:56:38.000Police officers, you know, anyone who knows anyone who's been to prison, I think would come out and say there are a lot of people in there who had really a bad start to life.
00:57:10.000And I think part of the translation, and British humour doesn't sometimes translate in the United States, and I think part of the reason police officers, or a big reason, is that, you know, you're just dealing every day with tragic circumstances, you're doing a lot of good, but you're also dealing with really unpleasant people.
00:57:36.000So earlier in the year, like last year, there was this bill where they said basically if you're arrested for a certain non-violent crime... Oh, misdemeanor at the level.
00:58:14.000And it's tough to deal with these people while maintaining constitutional rights.
00:58:18.000There is an interesting issue here as well.
00:58:22.000One of the controversies for some is that judges are elected here at a local level.
00:58:28.000And I do think there can be a cost to that.
00:58:31.000The reflex can be more punitive sometimes for certain crimes.
00:58:34.000But the benefit is that you can avoid a situation, for example, that exists in much of Europe, certainly in Britain.
00:58:43.000Where the cops are arresting people and they've got a rap sheet that is just pages and pages long and the judges are still sort of, you know, 90-day community service sentence.
00:58:54.000And how that, not simply the immorality of that in a democratic society, but also how that corrodes the public trust, which the public ultimately in a democracy must be the guardians, right, or must be the masters.
00:59:09.000The system is supposed to work because of judges.
00:59:11.000Judiciary is separate to the political branch, but there's no input, right?
00:59:18.000They just simply see, and people eventually, just like, they lose faith.
00:59:22.000This is, the system is supposed to work because of judges.
00:59:26.000Because a judge can look at a person and say, you committed, you're accused of this crime, what say you?
00:59:33.000And the person says, your honor, I beg of you, I have to work my job and be with my kids, I will be in court.
00:59:38.000And the judge can be like, okay, let's set some conditions that aren't cash, because you can't afford it, where we can ensure you will come to work.
00:59:46.000How about house arrest, but with a provision for you to go to work?
00:59:50.000Instead, I've seen these videos where the judge is like, Your bail is set at $1,000, Your Honor.
01:00:27.000The judge is supposed to be interpreting this better, and I feel like too often we don't get it.
01:00:31.000But maybe it's because there's no real simple answer.
01:00:34.000Maybe we're going to learn about the harsh cases and the lax cases.
01:00:37.000Maybe the reality is, you know, there's good judges in the middle who find that middle ground.
01:00:41.000And in all this, right, the same thing in San Francisco, right, that they were not arresting, you know, certain things would be treated misdemeanor, stealing from a car, you know, non-violent.
01:00:52.000And actually that's a much better example.
01:00:54.000You look at, you know, the kind of woke element, the left, right, and it's easy, it's much easier to become part of the woke crowd and wave than it is to be like, you know, kind of Larry David out of Curb Your Enthusiasm and be like, You know, like, it's okay for them, right?
01:01:09.000Because they can go to the apartment building that has a concierge and an underground garage.
01:01:13.000But that small business owner or that, you know, person who doesn't have, you know, has to park their car on the street, that working class, lower income person, they're the ones who are suffering the most here.
01:01:24.000It's not the people who are pushing this the most.
01:01:26.000But again, I just think there is a political opportunity here that we have to believe we'll be taken advantage of.
01:01:33.000Well, I'll tell you who is benefiting the most.
01:01:36.000For one, it's these woke, absurd politicians who give us mindless platitudes and ridiculous statements of, no more police!
01:01:56.000They're giving a heads up to the criminals as well as the regular citizens.
01:02:00.000They may as well announce the purge is going to be a real thing.
01:02:03.000Because all the criminals are gonna be like, ooh, 30 days, it's on, baby.
01:02:07.000But I'll tell you who else is making money.
01:02:09.000These activists who claim to fight for this stuff, they are cashing out.
01:02:12.000I think a lot of people have seen this story already.
01:02:15.000This Black Lives Matter leader apparently bought a massive mansion and a bunch of other moderately priced, well, actually, they're fairly expensive homes.
01:02:25.000So this Black Lives Matter lady, I guess she has what, like three homes that are like 400 to 500K?
01:03:08.000Landlords and property owners and you know.
01:03:11.000But it is in the kind of finest Soviet tradition.
01:03:16.000You have your dashers and you have your dackers actually and you have your kind of access to the you know the superhighway lane and There's nothing new to I mean, it's so obvious for what it is.
01:03:29.000What I think what is I mean that there you have right a great example of just the absurdity of the kind of work thing that that that that is white supremacist that everything is white supremacist.
01:03:43.000I mean, literally, we are now living in a, you know, curb your enthusiasm sketch.
01:03:48.000And, and, and, you know, I actually saw it.
01:03:51.000It was a few years ago, actually, with Larry David, he was saying, Oh, you know, we do have a lot of conservative viewers watch the show.
01:03:56.000And he's like, it's kind of interesting.
01:03:58.000It's like, yeah, well, because reality is becoming that show, you know, that it's that ridiculous.
01:04:03.000I mean, it is interesting, though, that you don't see that many people on the kind of, I guess, like Bill Maher does talk about this a bit, you know, the absurdity of it.
01:04:13.000But it's kind of funny how the crowd nervously laughs and the guests, what's more interesting, how these high profile guests feel more of an impulse to be like, well, Bill, you know, Do you see that lady?
01:05:33.000I studied a lot about, amateur hour, but read a lot about them.
01:05:37.000It is kind of amusing with the American, like, woke left talking Nazi white supremacy, because they really haven't read, how many of them have read Mein Kampf?
01:05:45.000How many of them have engaged seriously with the literature to understand?
01:05:49.000Because it is a profoundly unpleasant ideology, but simplifying it is not a good idea.
01:05:55.000I think many of them are, in fact, familiar with it, because, as we know, James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, and Peter Boghossian altered a portion of Minecraft into feminist ideology instead, and it got published in a scientific journal.
01:06:07.000So, they've certainly read some of the... I think, to be fair, there's some heavy criticism of that, but the general idea was the intention and the targeting of groups was what they poured it over.
01:06:18.000And then someone accused them, like, all they did was use the non-proper nouns because the proper nouns were changed.
01:06:23.000And I'm like, that's kind of the point.
01:06:55.000I just thought these people were hypocrites claiming to fight for the common people when actually they're just rich people because I've seen it time and time again.
01:07:00.000Al Sharpton is the most ludicrous personality.
01:07:05.000I mean it's quite astonishing actually that you know you saw a few years ago that he needs his first class seat to go to speaking gigs and he always turns up and then he disappears.
01:07:14.000I think Michael Brown's family were talking about this how they felt they'd been and and it is just I mean the cost of it is just quite quite astonishing right that they have we actually had an incident where I live in Washington and I don't want to be too specific because it'll seem like I'm using it for my own but but a 19 year old black guy was shot and killed and no one
01:07:37.000The reaction of people on the street who were very much, you know, defund the police signs on that night was, you know, they weren't terribly interested as he was calling for help.
01:07:49.000And there's more to it than that, but there is a lot of, again, enter profanity of choice that is really not just pathetic, but pretty outrageous in the sense that these are people, you know, people dying, right?
01:08:02.000And we should want solutions that mitigate that.
01:08:05.000You know what I've been kind of pissed off about?
01:08:07.000I hear this a lot from a lot of conservatives.
01:08:09.000They'll say, you know, the Black Lives Matter people don't seem to care about, you know, inner-city youth or what's going on in Chicago and Chi-Rac, right?
01:08:16.000How come they don't protest and demand justice for the black lives in Chicago who are victims of this crime all the time?
01:08:24.000Now, I've met some people who do focus on that, and they're smaller community activists, but definitely the high-profile grifters make their quick buck off pushing this institutional racism narrative.
01:08:35.000Where are the gun rights advocacy groups and conservatives going into the same neighborhoods and providing legal defense for the young black men whose only crime was possession of a firearm, which the Second Amendment says you're allowed to do?
01:08:48.000You know, when Well, I'll just leave it at that, without, you know, getting into rehashing a bunch of old stories.
01:08:55.000I would say, I don't know if he's been on the show, if not, I mean, obviously you pick your own guess, but show Michael Singleton, you know, a friend of mine, does a, you know, a black gun owner, does a TV show about it, engaged in, you know, some of this stuff, but...
01:09:09.000You know, actually, that's a very good point.
01:09:12.000The judicial, at the level of the big, well-funded, conservative legal defense, these things representing religious issues, right?
01:09:18.000A life that doesn't, you know, you're right.
01:09:23.000There are a lot of, particularly young black men, but even outside of that, there's a lot of people in this country who get charged with illegal possession of a firearm, and that's it.
01:09:32.000Now, if they're committing a crime with the gun, okay, fine, I get it.
01:09:36.000You commit a crime, you commit a crime.
01:09:38.000Um, I mean like if they're robbing somebody, if they're carjacking or doing something like that, or using the gun in the process of a crime.
01:09:43.000If someone literally is like, I would like to bear arms, you know, the constitution says shall not be infringed.
01:09:48.000I would like to see, you know, the NRA, I'm not a big fan of the NRA, but I, so I don't think they would do anything, but I'd like to see more gun, gun rights groups actually be like, we're going to go to Washington DC.
01:10:00.000We're going to talk to these, we're going to find these young men.
01:10:02.000And we're going to look at that charge sheet where it says illegal possession of a firearm, and we're going to be like, no, we're going to give you the legal defense because this is not right.
01:10:17.000I mean, we got a viral video that's been going around for a while of a woman holding her baby, getting shot and killed, and then lying on top of her baby to protect her from these drive-by shooters.
01:10:24.000And a lot of conservatives are like, where's Black Lives Matter?
01:10:27.000Where's the left complaining about this?
01:10:51.000And then there's an argument for the conservatives.
01:10:52.000It's like, some of these guys who have these guns are actually in gangs, and they have guns for not good reasons.
01:10:58.000But at the same time, I'm like, honestly, man, I think we need to have some principle on the matter.
01:11:03.000If we're for black lives, we're for the gang members as well.
01:11:06.000And if we're for gun ownership, we're for gang members as well.
01:11:09.000One of the things that I'm surprised, and you know there may be, well actually I don't think there is a good reason for it, but why we haven't seen more prosecutions, the FBI, ATF using RICO statutes, so racketeering, in the same way that they do against Russian organized crime, Eastern European groups, you know, MS-13, whatever.
01:11:31.000Where actually if you can build up your evidentiary picture you could have a pretty significant Judicial effect.
01:11:37.000I think part of the reason is that the You know that some of the gangs terms, you know again, you know that young black men tend to be a part of there's less You know, the the economic impact on society is lower as a term in terms of criminal finances and so the incentive for the FBI's to go after higher value things But at the moral level and the life level, you know, you would think that would be something perhaps everyone could get behind.
01:12:05.000Of course, I'm sure I'm totally delusional about that.
01:12:08.000But, you know, being creative here, right, is surely something we need to do more of.
01:12:19.000I think I got a good, you know, overlapping nonprofit idea that I'm gonna see if I can, you know, get set up and I'm, you know, so I've been talking to a few people about this and it's quite literally to find young men who are charged with possession of a firearm and that's it.
01:12:36.000And then, so I think Chicago is a good target for this because I think it'll be, maybe this could be a position where, you know, a lot of the Black Lives Matter people, not, who are not too democratic establishment, where they're just anti-gun for no reason.
01:12:48.000But a lot of these actual leftist personalities who believe in Black Lives Matter, I'll be like, how about we get these guys out of jail and help them get their lives fixed because they didn't do anything wrong.
01:12:56.000They're abiding, they're enjoying their second amendment rights.
01:12:58.000And then I think a lot of the gun owners, libertarians, and even some conservatives might be like, all right, we agree with that as well.
01:13:02.000So I'm like, maybe that's a, that's a good thing where we can be like, Hey, we're going to do this thing.
01:13:06.000Cause we're trying to help and, you know, make, make lives better for everybody.
01:13:10.000And I bet in a lot of those cases, right, it's going to be, well, we know, it's that person carrying that gun because they're in a very high crime neighborhood and they don't want to get robbed.
01:13:19.000It is basic level Second Amendment stuff, right?
01:13:22.000I mean, yeah, it's like very rudimentary.
01:14:39.000In 2011, at least in riots, you know, as a gunner, you can have a gun in your home and you could at least have relative confidence, relative, that you might be able to protect your family.
01:14:49.000You know, in 2011 in London, there were riots over three days and the police were totally overwhelmed.
01:14:54.000There was no, you know, if you think about sort of older people, people with health issues, it was anarchy for them.
01:15:02.000People come into their homes, you know, take stuff, do whatever, and all that, their only recourse were the cops.
01:15:09.000And more than that, the people doing it knew that, right?
01:15:12.000Here, at least, there is a moment of pause, you would hope.
01:15:15.000Some people, obviously, there isn't, but, you know, you're going to walk in and, you know, good night.
01:15:20.000I'll tell you this, you know, out in the middle of nowhere and a little bit further west of where we are, you see no trespassing sign?
01:15:29.000Yeah, you definitely gonna obey that no trespassing sign.
01:15:32.000So like, I've been out, you know, I was thinking about this, I was driving through West Virginia and I look at all these houses and I'm like, You know?
01:15:41.000If you even thought of robbing this house, you're gonna die.
01:15:48.000And so, I mean, people are reasonable.
01:15:50.000They're not just gonna randomly shoot a person they see on the property, but they're gonna warn you and they're gonna be armed to the teeth.
01:15:53.000Most of the people who live out here, they're armed because cops are few and far between.
01:16:00.000Like I was mentioning earlier, the cost for the activist of getting caught rioting is almost nothing.
01:16:06.000Their life will not be harmed in any way.
01:16:08.000And it's really fascinating because destroying property, burning things down, and literally causing harm to people are very serious crimes.
01:16:15.000Yet, going back to this, I hear these stories of, you know, a 28-year-old dad in Chicago who's scared of gang violence, so he gets an illegal gun.
01:16:24.000It's not literally illegal according to the Constitution, but the state says it is.
01:16:29.000He gets to get locked up and have his life ruined because he wants to protect himself from gang violence in a city, a city that the police can't control.
01:17:10.000That's a funny thing, too, about this voting stuff, when I think it was like David Hogg who said, buying a gun shouldn't be easier than voting.
01:17:16.000And I was like, are you suggesting that guns should be mailed to everyone's home when they don't ask for it?
01:18:09.000The Black Panthers showed up in Richmond, Virginia, I think it was, when the 2A people were all protesting.
01:18:15.000And it's funny how the media tries framing the Second Amendment guys as, like, white supremacists, and I'm like, they're taking selfies with the Black Panthers, smiling.
01:20:12.000And this stuff is not, I mean, this is what's, you know, I'm, you know, I do have a kind of eccentric sort of, you know, British sense of humor, whatever.
01:20:51.000It's happening near the Navy, predominantly, in their work-up areas off the east and west coast.
01:20:56.000The Navy assesses that at least a significant part of the reason it is happening near the carriers and the submarines is because of the nuclear reactors and weapons in some case on those, that these things are attracted to it.
01:21:34.000Tim McMillan, who really I think is probably the top journalist on this, at least from the U.S.
01:21:40.000point of view and the world, the debrief, both him and myself have said it's 99% sure we are.
01:21:48.000Not simply because of, you know, as we understand it, what China and Russia have in development.
01:21:53.000And they do have, for example, on hypersonic glide vehicles, which are going to be the new form of delivering nuclear weapons, the Russians are, at least in delivered platforms that are deployed, more advanced than the United States.
01:22:23.000The propulsion vectors, the behavior patterns.
01:22:27.000The top lines, intelligently controlled machines because of how they interact.
01:22:32.000happening since the end of the Second World War and again this is just focusing on military credible sources not you know and I think a lot of these witnesses are probably telling the truth but but you know you want to go with police officers people who have a lot to lose by saying I saw this or radar data platforms intelligent controlled machines capable transmedium travel underwater space you know through the air and again since this end of the Second World War We had Marco Rubio, I think, recently said that it's a serious threat we should talk about because we don't know who this is and they're flying over our national security.
01:23:07.000Right, and he talks about strategic import.
01:23:09.000He's talking about the nuclear connection there.
01:23:14.000Marco Rubio also wants to run for president again in the future.
01:23:16.000He's the vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
01:23:23.000He knows he's seen that he knows this is really a it's not China Russia or us something's going on I'm gonna keep pushing this subject because it's gonna be good for my political career And I think he thinks the public should know more is it aliens.
01:23:36.000Yes, you think it's probably alien I think it is probably a I am almost I'm highly confident.
01:23:41.000It is either aliens or extra-dimensional No, and I really I pay listen that's a big thing to say right, you know, it's I I think that will be borne out in our lifetimes, that it really is something else.
01:23:56.000Because if you, again, it's the Sherlock Holmes thing, right?
01:23:59.000You eliminate the impossible, all you're left with, it is not US, China, Russia, or Elon Musk.
01:24:05.000And it's machinery, and it's intelligently controlled.
01:24:08.000I don't know if there are people in it or whatever.
01:24:10.000And it's been happening since the Second World War.
01:24:29.000But that's the basic, that's why Marco Rubio is leaning into this, because they know it's not the Russians and Chinese, and they don't, and they, you know.
01:24:36.000There's a conspiracy theory that once we actually drop the nukes, we basically send a signal.
01:24:58.000Robert Hastings, who's become a friend of mine.
01:25:01.000He's the guy who wrote the kind of Bible on that UFOs and nukes.
01:25:03.000Not a terribly original title, but the The sourcing is excellent, and yes they have, and they've done it to the Russians.
01:25:09.000What's interesting as well is the, you know, the Russians and Chinese have these experiences still, you know, nuclear platform sites, and the Russians, being Russians in the Cold War, you know, tried to shoot these things down a couple of times and the pilots ended up dying.
01:25:45.000When I think about extra-dimensional, there's one thing I've often wondered.
01:25:49.000We have invisible means of data transmission.
01:25:54.000We use electromagnetic waves of various frequencies to send signals to other devices.
01:26:01.000And I often wondered, I wonder if what is invisible to us is actually a physical phenomenon in another dimension of sorts that we can't perceive.
01:26:08.000And so we are actually just completely ignorant of what we're doing, maybe on the other side.
01:26:14.000So as we broadcast a signal, you know, like a five gigahertz signal to us, nothing happens.
01:26:21.000But then maybe in this another dimension or the upside down or whatever, it's actually like ripples, like pushing through water, having a very serious impact on something that might be on the other side.
01:26:34.000So real quick, just when we talk about extra dimensional, I wonder if then the reason they're detecting the nuclear reactors and energy is because it's having a physical reaction in their dimension or whatever, right?
01:26:51.000There is, you know, and you can go back in time, you look at, you know, there was a situation with one of the, you know, very top Roman generals, I think finding the Thracians, where the testimony of, I forget, the Roman historian, And it's actually on UFO sightings, you know Wikipedia page, but I went and backtracked the sourcing is legitimate Describing what looks like a UFO coming in between two armies The behavior patterns of some of these things are really interesting and where they appear, you know, there's a school connection point School.
01:27:25.000Yep school in Zimbabwe Ariel school in 1994 Zimbabwe all the kids eight-year-old nine-year-old kids describing it some of them saying they saw a being and Melbourne, 1967.
01:28:37.000They said that some object came down through the clouds or was seen floating in the sky for a minute or two and then shot straight up and punched a hole in the clouds.
01:28:47.000And they were told it was a weather phenomenon.
01:30:29.000I put my camera at it, and it's a white dot on the screen, and I'm like, I cannot capture this moment on a phone.
01:30:35.000I have seen weird things in the sky before that look like there's a tail coming off, and I'm like, was that a comet or a meteorite?
01:30:41.000And I put my camera at it, and you lose all the definition, and all it is is a red dot with a grainy blue background.
01:30:46.000And I'm like, damn, I can't take a picture of this.
01:30:49.000I think people overestimate the power of cell phone cameras with long range, uh, low resolution photographs.
01:30:56.000So if you, if I guess people are expecting like the saucer to land in their backyard and then to get a higher resolution photo, they're not doing that.
01:31:04.000So one thing though that hopefully, you obviously mentioned Jeremy Corbell's photos, there were some other ones that I had that, you know, happened similar, well actually, you know, slightly different time.
01:31:18.000One thing that myself and Tim McMillan reported on last December is a, in December 2019 or thereabouts, Now, the pilots in the F-18s, right from the carrier groups, have their iPhones.
01:31:33.000One air crew took a photo of a triangle, which we've seen David Marler's coming out the water.
01:31:42.000I know it exists, you know, multiple sources.
01:31:47.000When that photo comes out, I think that will be a really pretty pivotal moment because it will be from an aircrew, there'll be a chain of custody, and you know, when you see that thing, and then when they match up the sensor data with it, anyway.
01:32:00.000These Jeremy Corbell photos, the ones that are talking about the naval warships, they're white specks.
01:32:54.000But I think it's, I'm very confident that is the assessment shared by ONI, Office of Naval Intelligence, which leads the investigative effort.
01:33:03.000Personally, I feel like it's more likely that the Navy's lying than that extraterrestrials are arrived, just mathematically, in a likelihood guess.
01:33:13.000I think you have to, yeah, you have to trust, again, your sources.
01:33:18.000You have to look at platforms that are in place.
01:33:20.000I mean, we're not just... The thing that's interesting about these, and again, looking at the historic, certainly with the triangles, the way these things behave, non-jet propulsion, trans-medium travel, hypersonic instantaneous acceleration, which would rip a human body apart, unless you have some kind of... Inertial dampeners.
01:34:15.000Imagine someone in the 1800s trying to explain a jet engine, and they'd be trying to use
01:34:18.000their understanding of science to explain futuristic technology.
01:34:23.000They wouldn't be thinking about these combustion engines in the same way.
01:34:27.000Or more importantly, when we talk about electricity, and then you go back and try and explain it to someone in the pre, you know, pre-electricity, they're not going to understand the concept of how this works.
01:34:37.000And so they're going to try and use their perspective on science.
01:34:41.000You end up with ideas like the ether, you know what I mean?
01:34:44.000They don't quite, they can't conceptualize this stuff.
01:34:50.000So the debris in terms of metamaterial, I know the US government has it.
01:34:56.000I've heard that from two extremely good sources, extremely good, verified, you know, that it is from a crash location, you know, identified something went down, recovered, and the material analysis of it, there's a lot of different elements of metamaterial that people say are from UFOs or UAPs.
01:35:20.000The US government stuff, there's again chain of custody from siding crash, whatever, that because of the metallurgy or the binding of the metals within it, it would be impossible to do with our understanding of manufacturing and that it would require at least, you know, one very good source told me, Again, and these are government people, right?
01:35:45.000This is not some, you know, this is not researchers who I think there are some great researchers, but I'm trying to be very careful here about being able to have a governmental link to what I'm saying.
01:35:55.000That you could not produce it where you're not in a zero gravity environment.
01:36:02.000And so this is something that, you know, other people have talked about with, they say, you know, metal analysis.
01:36:09.000But, again, when you've got the radar returns, the ICBM satellites that we, in case China decides to nuke us in the middle of the night, that we can track it.
01:36:21.000You've got this stuff coming into orbit.
01:36:23.000You've got the nuclear attack submarines catching it underwater at hundreds of knots.
01:37:04.000I mean, I do that metallurgical analysis, right?
01:37:06.000That is very hard to, as someone told me, avoid the physics.
01:37:10.000Just kind of, you know, focus on it's really interesting and here's what we know.
01:37:16.000But the seal has been broken now, right?
01:37:20.000It seems like there are no physics when it comes to the metal.
01:37:22.000Like, I have no evidence of metallurgy.
01:37:25.000Took for you to see. Yeah, right and the government is known lying to us like weapons of mass destruction
01:37:31.000Yeah, well, I mean I don't Intelligence failure, you know could explain some of this
01:37:40.000but But again, when you have the cross section, I appreciate, well, I do appreciate the fact that it's, you know, I'm saying, right, this is my reporting.
01:38:18.000With Lazar, it seems like he was working on a drone program and that they told him it was aliens to throw it so that he didn't go and spew like the government's working on drones.
01:38:33.000Doesn't mean that they weren't working on a drone program.
01:38:34.000I mean, they raided Tesla's laboratory in the 20s.
01:38:37.000I just think that guy lacks credibility.
01:38:40.000Sure, sure, sure, that's fine, but his story's changed, and I'm not interested in someone telling a story and being all smiley and confident about it and then coming out 20, 30 years later and being like, oh, actually, that wasn't true, because back then it was sensational, got him on TV.
01:39:01.000I would say as well that I mean, I think my reporting will stand on the merits, but I would say a basic place to start Robert Hastings UFOs and nukes and David Mahler triangle UFOs.
01:39:13.000Those are two very good serious people who are just keeping it to eyewitnesses who have credibility and doing their due diligence.
01:39:23.000I believe maybe we'll actually get to the point where we will discover what it is or it'll be unveiled to the public.
01:39:30.000But I think we're going to discover a lot more in the coming years.
01:39:32.000I think for sure something, but I just don't, I don't see aliens.
01:39:36.000I mean, I have no, no evidence, even remote evidence of aliens.
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01:46:36.000Interestingly, though, I was reading once about how they reintroduce wolves to, like, the Yellowstone area, and the wolves keep the numbers in check and restore balance.
01:47:15.000You need to fact check what you're reading.
01:47:18.000And I do think, you know, and I'm sure hopefully it will be replicated so there's more competition, but one good thing where Google really does deserve a positive shout out is the Google Translate.
01:47:27.000Because going on, you could go on Kommersant, you know, Russian newspaper, you know, just hitting that button, maybe it's not going to be entirely accurate, but it gives you an idea of foreign media.
01:49:14.000She's literally just torturing people who beg for death.
01:49:17.000She's the bad guy How was Agatha supposed to be the bad guy when she's like, how are you doing this?
01:49:21.000I want your power I'm like, okay, if there was someone who was torturing thousands of people and you said I Want to take away your ability to torture them.
01:50:08.000My brother knows that I like that game.
01:50:09.000It's cool that you can experience like an old west town, like southern, like Louisiana in the 1850s, and it's almost like a VR reality where you get to be there and see the sound, hear the sounds and see it.
01:51:24.000I was thinking about this, that the way we describe that, I bet, you know,
01:51:28.000if it was sort of going to be reported, you know, in left-wing media, they would say that it was,
01:51:33.000we were calling for, you know, the police, we should go back to the days where the police
01:51:37.000could just do whatever they wanted no accountability.
01:51:39.000What we're actually just suggesting is just accountable policing, but like, the balance of law being, you know, predicated on, you know, Innocent until proven guilty.
01:52:04.000And he said, son, you never want to be a cop.
01:52:06.000They work awful hours and man, it's like a miserable job.
01:52:10.000Everybody, you see the worst of people every single day.
01:52:12.000You're in your car, and you get a call.
01:52:14.000Some nasty person's doing something nasty, and you got to deal with this every single day.
01:52:18.000People think, like, the cops spend most of their day, what, like, riding tickets.
01:52:21.000A lot of cops spend a lot of their days in these cities, dealing with violent, deranged individuals who won't listen, are breaking the law.
01:53:07.000There's a video of these Antifa people leaving a riot and they're crossing a bridge when they, like, throw something at a car and then the guy, like, jumps out and he's armed or something.
01:53:28.000It's like there's that moment in the novel when finally the police are gone and all the protesters realize that the totalitarian military dictatorship that took the place of the police that's abusing, beating, and murdering them, that it's not that good and that you feel like Good.
01:54:00.000I said it would be only a few days before they're begging the police and the police are right there saying, okay, okay, we're here.
01:54:06.000That's why I said his idea was better.
01:54:08.000Putting a notice out saying, in 30 days, we're done, you will see how quickly people immediately like, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, we take it back, we take it back, we don't want to abolish the police.
01:54:17.000They abolished the police in Minneapolis, and then panicked as phone calls started coming in saying there's crime, no one's stopping it, the police won't respond anymore.
01:54:40.000We're going to go be firefighters or we're going to go work construction or something.
01:54:44.000The residents of these cities, Trump, I'll tell you this.
01:54:47.000If every cop in Minneapolis resigned the moment their, their, you know, third prison or whatever, burnt to the ground, I bet Trump would have won Minnesota.
01:54:58.000If the police said, I watched that video of the cops running out of the police precinct as it's being burnt to the ground as people, one guy stole a bunch of police gear.
01:55:06.000And these cops, some of them, many of them quit, like in general.
01:55:32.000Okay, the police have now understood, not only do people not support them, but they actually vote in the same people who smear, sacrifice, or just, you know, try and scapegoat them, and they're still there.
01:56:58.000What if we have states pass laws saying that if a police officer acts against the Constitution, that's a criminal charge?
01:57:04.000Make a statutory law a criminal offense, a misdemeanor, for constitutional violation.
01:57:09.000Yeah, I mean, you're going to have to develop case law though so the police know how to operate in high-stress, time-sensitive environments, right?
01:57:47.000Sergeant Wolf says, it's events like this with Dante Wright that make me want to be a cop, but it's also what make me never want to be a cop.
01:57:52.000I want to help my community, but how can I do that if I'm going to be targeted or tar and feathered for it?
01:58:41.000Guyton says, Tim, federalizing the police is a terrible outcome and the desired one if the police are no longer accountable to their local governments and communities.
01:58:49.000The challenge is, there are periods in which the federal government intervenes when people's rights aren't being upheld.
01:58:54.000When extremists are burning down people's property, and your local government is laughing in your face, refusing to do anything, and supporting the extremists, that's when the federal government is supposed to come in to protect your rights.
01:59:05.000So when the federal government deputized the state police, it was in protection of the rights of those who live there, not, you know, in contrary- Oppression.
02:00:13.000Yeah, I don't really understand why that, and the positive things that they do, which there are, I would see, you know, explosive, you know, terrorist groups, why that can't be enveloped into the FBI?
02:01:29.000And I think it creates you, you creating a management structure that goes above and beyond, you know, ice doesn't simply, it doesn't, you know, decision-making is slowed down because you can't, you've got to keep going up and you put the higher you go, the more political it becomes.
02:01:43.000Sometimes you want these things just to be left to do to their own devices, unless they screw up.
02:01:47.000This is a lot of what we heard from the squad to get rid of DHS and then pull these agencies out of them.
02:03:15.000I guess we did nothing, but we're good capitalists who made money on it.
02:03:22.000Troy Dingman says, instead of cash bail, why don't they let off these nonviolent crimes with an ankle bracelet so they can track their movements?
02:03:29.000And if they get caught, then you hold them.
02:03:39.000I mean, but yeah, I mean, if you're sort of breaking into a car stuff that you should be, you know, bail, but doesn't mean, you know, you shouldn't face judicial consequences.
02:03:48.000This is why body cameras are important.
02:03:50.000Because when this guy gets caught again on camera with a, you know, Slim Jim in a car, the cop can be like, I'm literally filming you do this.
02:03:58.000You're not going to get You know, bailed out this time.
02:04:04.000And the reason they don't, if you talk to them, is that they're worried that, you know, when they're in the car, I mean, like, that, you know.
02:04:37.000Yeah, people, they're bad people, you know what I mean?
02:04:40.000And that's why I think as well we do need to hire more public defenders, you know?
02:04:44.000Because if that happens perhaps to one of us, you know, we might have the money to go and get a lawyer and to create public attention.
02:04:53.000But if you're some kid who has no money, a public defender does not have enough time because then the cops can say, hey, plea it down to misdemeanor or whatever, take it.
02:05:01.000Because I do not, I got to go and work on 50 other cases today.
02:05:07.000Sunny James says, so tired of manufactured outrage.
02:05:10.000Is this what happens when a service economy dies?
02:05:12.000Like open borders, people arguing for a two-state solution in Israel or green passports.
02:05:18.000My mind can no longer vomit the hypocrisy up no more.
02:05:21.000This was something Tucker Carlson covered.
02:05:23.000Tucker Carlson did this big segment where he said, And he's basically saying, when immigrants come in, they're more likely to vote Democrat, and that means places like California, which were reliably Republican until, you know, 1988.
02:05:38.000Became democrat, you know from 92 on and it's because they brought in more and more immigrants and Ronald Reagan was the one who signed it He got called the white white nationalist.
02:05:47.000All these journalists are like he's clearly just the white nationalist Even though Tucker Carlson literally said black Americans are the most negatively impacted by the displacement the loss of jobs and immigration it's It's the propaganda.
02:06:00.000But we saw in 2020, actually, Hispanic voters going much more for Trump than was anticipated.
02:06:06.000But the interesting point that Tucker ends up bringing up is that the Anti-Defamation League themselves argue against the same thing for the same... They basically... You could take what the Anti-Defamation League said and claim it came from Tucker Carlson, and you'd be like, I believe it.
02:06:22.000Because they were like, Israel should not allow Palestinians to come into their borders because it would displace the ethnic Jews from their state.
02:06:31.000And then they accused, they demanded Tucker Carlson quit or be fired for being a white nationalist when it's like, he just repeated what you guys said about Israel.
02:06:39.000So it's clearly just an illegitimate argument.
02:07:03.000We will handle a few more of these superchats.
02:07:05.000And Chris Rohrbach says, Ian, what are your thoughts on Dogecoin?
02:07:10.000Well, it's kind of a comedy coin, but Lex Freeman and Elon Musk love it and tweet about it nonstop.
02:07:17.000So I imagine it's a... I'm not much of a financial advisor, but, you know, the popular coins tend to go up in value.
02:07:25.000Waffle Sensei says, Tim, if you coordinated to help start a legal defense group for inner city black gun ownership, the minds of these doublethinkers would explode and rip a tear in the multiverse.
02:09:29.000I don't think that my ideology shifted enough to where I ever actually cared about what they thought.
02:09:34.000When I worked for Vice, Vice was a very libertarian place.
02:09:39.000When I worked for Fusion, they claimed they were trying to be, and then they got woke.
02:09:43.000I remember I made a video about why it was wrong to have... It was like, Harvard did a black-only graduation, and I was like, it's segregation, I don't like it.
02:09:51.000And a bunch of people at Fusion got angry that I said this.
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02:11:25.000And I only wish we could have talked more about UFOs and UAPs, because I was jazzed for that part of the conversation.
02:11:31.000But that's coming up in the Members Only session.
02:11:34.000And I would say, just as a concluding comment though on that, you know, a lot of that stuff, right, is stuff, you know, to work on and produce and bring out, flesh out more.
02:11:44.000So, you know, hopefully people won't, you know, just think, why is this guy just mouthing off all this stuff?