Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Veritas Expose Shows CNN Staffer ADMITTING They Are Activist Propaganda w-Tom Rogan

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:49.000 man there's so much going on today I mean, we're probably gonna see massive riots in many cities tonight.

00:01:10.000 We'll see how that plays out.

00:01:10.000 It's already 8 p.m.

00:01:11.000 There's already been some protests I've seen in Minnesota.

00:01:14.000 It might chill out throughout the rest of the week and then pick up again this weekend, which is really bad because the Chauvin deliberations should be taking place early next week, we think, so far.

00:01:24.000 We'll see how it plays out.

00:01:25.000 But we do got, man, one of the biggest stories, and...

00:01:28.000 It's always really hard to properly provide commentary on a story from Project Veritas for one simple reason, which I will tell you in a second.

00:01:37.000 Project Veritas has released undercover footage of a CNN technical director saying that they were just trying to get Donald Trump out of office, that they effectively produced propaganda, they're going to be producing fear content to push a climate change narrative.

00:01:51.000 And you know why it's really hard to provide commentary on this?

00:01:54.000 Because I'm just like, when I see this story, I'm like, oh yeah, I know.

00:01:57.000 Don't you?

00:01:58.000 Don't we all know CNN is doing this?

00:02:01.000 I get it.

00:02:02.000 Veritas has gotten us the receipts.

00:02:04.000 And this is a massive story which broke over like 2.2 million views in only a couple of hours.

00:02:09.000 It's been trending all day.

00:02:10.000 Because now we have it.

00:02:12.000 Now we can see it coming out of their mouths.

00:02:15.000 James O'Keefe calls one of these guys at CNN.

00:02:16.000 They just hang up the phone on him, of course.

00:02:18.000 This is what they do.

00:02:20.000 Unfortunately, as much as this is huge, Project Veritas, will they be able to break that news to regular people who are still hooked in to the CNN narrative?

00:02:30.000 That's the challenge.

00:02:31.000 So that's what we need to talk about.

00:02:32.000 We need to talk about what this guy said, why he said it, and I'll tell you what's interesting.

00:02:35.000 When I saw this story hit a local ABC affiliate, and I'm like, okay, this story is big.

00:02:41.000 This expose is big.

00:02:42.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:02:43.000 We'll talk about what's going on with this woman in the Daunte Wright shooting in Minnesota.

00:02:47.000 She's expected to be charged criminally tomorrow. 1.00

00:02:51.000 We may very well see some more protests in the meantime.

00:02:53.000 Joining us is commentary writer Tom Rogan.

00:02:56.000 Good to be with you.

00:02:57.000 Thank you, Tim.

00:02:58.000 Just briefly introduce yourself.

00:02:59.000 Sure, yeah.

00:03:00.000 So I'm a commentary writer for the Washington Examiner, predominantly focused on national security and foreign policy.

00:03:07.000 Dual citizen, so I'm not just a British invader talking about American politics.

00:03:12.000 Yeah, and that's that's the short of it.

00:03:14.000 And UFO expert?

00:03:15.000 I'm kidding.

00:03:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:17.000 Well, I do take an interest, yeah, in UFOs or UAPs, you know, because something really is going on there.

00:03:23.000 And, you know, I think I have pretty good sourcing on it.

00:03:26.000 And a lot of journalists don't want to touch it.

00:03:28.000 And there's another story that's been circulating for the past couple of weeks.

00:03:32.000 There are like these tic-tac unidentified vehicles flying above naval vessels.

00:03:36.000 Apparently now there's footage of it.

00:03:37.000 So we'll get into all that.

00:03:38.000 We'll talk about that later on.

00:03:40.000 Of course, we got Ian Ian Crosland coming at you with a periodic table in one hand and a cup of coffee in the other, ready to talk about metamaterials with Tom and UFO machines, but also let's talk about things happening on Earth.

00:03:51.000 Yeah, that's fair.

00:03:52.000 Yeah, I sent Tom this link.

00:03:53.000 I was talking to him about the Project Veritas thing and he's like, yeah, we know about CNN.

00:03:58.000 And I was like, yeah, but it's like big because they said it themselves.

00:04:00.000 Anyway, I'm in the corner pushing buttons as always, our petulance.

00:04:03.000 That's the big challenge.

00:04:04.000 It's like, breaking news everyone!

00:04:06.000 CNN is producing lies and propaganda and they're like, that's not breaking news.

00:04:10.000 But Veritas got the guy on camera this time.

00:04:12.000 2.2 million views doesn't lie.

00:04:15.000 That's huge.

00:04:16.000 That's huge.

00:04:16.000 Alright, we'll talk about this.

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00:05:25.000 Let's read this first story from abc13wham.

00:05:30.000 Project Veritas says it caught CNN staffer admitting network-pushed anti-Trump propaganda.

00:05:38.000 This is an ABC affiliate reporting this, which if local news outlets are picking up Project Veritas, the story is pretty big.

00:05:45.000 They say Veritas unveiled a video Tuesday that says that the group says is of a CNN staffer describing how the network worked to show then-presidential candidate Joe Biden in a favorable light during the 2020 campaign.

00:05:56.000 The undercover video captured a man the self-proclaimed conservative watchdog group identified as CNN technical director Charlie Chester, I'm not sure Veritas is ever self-proclaimed to be conservative watchdogs, but I digress, saying he decided to work with the network because it focused on removing former President Donald Trump.

00:06:12.000 Chester also credited CNN as a critical tool in electing Biden.

00:06:16.000 Quote, look, what we did, we got, we CNN got Trump out. I am 100% going to say it.

00:06:22.000 And I 100% believe that if it wasn't for CNN, I don't know that Trump would have got voted out.

00:06:27.000 I came to CNN because I wanted to be a part of that. The man said in one portion of the video,

00:06:32.000 Chester was speaking to someone off camera at undisclosed locations.

00:06:35.000 He was targeted through the dating app Tinder, according to Mediaite.

00:06:38.000 That is impressive work from Project Veritas.

00:06:42.000 How do they do that?

00:06:43.000 Tinder's random.

00:06:44.000 It shows you a person.

00:06:45.000 So they have... James O'Keefe has got young women, like, swiping right on these dudes, like, just scouring Tinder looking for someone who says, I work at CNN. 1.00

00:06:54.000 Boom.

00:06:54.000 Well, that's a foreign intelligence way.

00:06:57.000 If you just do mass spread and then you can target it down as you find the person.

00:07:03.000 I'm impressed.

00:07:04.000 If they really did use Tinder to get access to these guys, that means Veritas does more substantive investigative work than I realized.

00:07:11.000 Yeah, good tradecraft.

00:07:12.000 Or it could have been a girl that just met some dude and was like, oh, you work for CNN?

00:07:15.000 Oh, I gotta get in touch with Project Veritas about this.

00:07:18.000 I gotta say, you know, if they're reporting that, I really believe it.

00:07:21.000 Because you have to wonder how it is they consistently get access to some of these people.

00:07:25.000 They're not just like walking into places and being like, hi, tell me all your secrets.

00:07:29.000 Going on a date with some dude and having him spill the beans.

00:07:32.000 Now, I will say, you got to be careful about one thing.

00:07:34.000 Could this guy be hamming it up because he's trying to get laid?

00:07:38.000 Well, definitely.

00:07:39.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:07:39.000 Yes, of course.

00:07:41.000 Is she like, I hate Trump, because I hate Trump too.

00:07:44.000 Yeah, in fact.

00:07:44.000 Yeah.

00:07:45.000 And then she's like, yeah, yeah.

00:07:47.000 Like, wouldn't it be cool?

00:07:48.000 Like CNN helped get him out.

00:07:49.000 Oh, CNN definitely did that.

00:07:51.000 I did that.

00:07:51.000 That's why I'm here.

00:07:52.000 Right.

00:07:52.000 Want to go back to my place?

00:07:54.000 Yeah.

00:07:55.000 That's almost why we need the kind of body camera with a police officer before they pull up, right?

00:08:00.000 You want the totality of the circumstances.

00:08:02.000 You know what though?

00:08:04.000 I will say, there was one undercover video that Project Veritas got with a guy, I'm not gonna name, that I knew.

00:08:11.000 And they had a young woman talking to this guy, and the guy was saying all this stuff about what he could do at the New York Times or whatever.

00:08:17.000 And I'm like, dude, he is hamming it up.

00:08:20.000 He is trying to impress this lady.

00:08:22.000 He's talking smack.

00:08:23.000 And I'll say it, right?

00:08:24.000 I'm not gonna shill for Veritas in every circumstance.

00:08:27.000 I'll criticize him if I see some reason to do it.

00:08:30.000 But this is different.

00:08:31.000 This is someone who's working for CNN, a technical director, who has no problem telling members of the public, be it, is he lying to this young woman about what CNN does?

00:08:40.000 He's confident enough, for whatever reason, to say, CNN produces fear, we propagandize, and our goal was political.

00:08:48.000 And he said it.

00:08:49.000 That's it.

00:08:50.000 And I do think one of the challenges here, though, for CNN, and of course it applies to other outlets, is that, you know, On one side, you do have, we saw in the campaign, obviously, very anti-Trump coverage, very pro-Biden.

00:09:05.000 And the other side, you know, certainly some of their foreign policy correspondents, Kylie Atkins, you know, Jim Schudo, who I think has sort of moved more in the opinion side, you know, do really good reporting.

00:09:16.000 So it's a challenge for them in a sense, right, that they, that this, you know, because this is not great for their credibility, the outlets, and it's sort of unfair on them in a sense.

00:09:27.000 I don't think they care.

00:09:28.000 I think, you know, you turn on Reliable Sources today, and what's Oliver Darcy and Brian Stelter talking about?

00:09:35.000 Who's the right-wing boogeyman today?

00:09:36.000 I jokingly, you know, I'll tweet at Brian Stelter that he's the host of the Fox News review show.

00:09:42.000 Right.

00:09:42.000 Because you turn on Sunday morning with CNN, and it's Brian Stelter telling you what Fox News is talking about, and I'm like, what is this?

00:09:48.000 How is this in any way news about the media environment?

00:09:51.000 Tucker Carlson said something offensive! 0.81

00:09:53.000 And I'm like, okay.

00:09:55.000 What's going on with the media?

00:09:56.000 Are there layoffs?

00:09:57.000 Is the business growing?

00:09:58.000 What are journalists doing?

00:09:59.000 No, it's just basically CNN's like, hey, we can make money because people don't like Fox News.

00:10:03.000 And there you go.

00:10:04.000 In a sense, though, you know, Brian Stelter's media show, it's not so much like how he curts on Fox.

00:10:10.000 It's sort of, I think, more become kind of Laura Ingraham, right?

00:10:13.000 Or Sean Hannity, that it's a more overtly opinion show that's presenting itself as a media show.

00:10:18.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

00:10:19.000 And I'll say that, you know, with respect, he's allowed to do that.

00:10:23.000 Right.

00:10:23.000 If he wants to be an opinion show, if he wants to be the Sunday morning version of Hannity for the left or whatever.

00:10:29.000 The only problem is, you know, when Sean Hannity rags on the liberal media, there's many different liberal medias to rag on.

00:10:35.000 The Fox News is almost one of a kind.

00:10:38.000 I mean, for cable news, it basically is.

00:10:40.000 When media, when, when reliable sources, you know, CNN just talks about Fox News all day, every day.

00:10:45.000 I'm like, I just, I, I'm just, I'm not, I don't see the urgency here, man.

00:10:49.000 You know what I mean?

00:10:50.000 It's, it's one channel.

00:10:51.000 I know they got a big viewership, but when you combine CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, HLN, CNN, et cetera, I mean, we're looking at 30, 40, 50 million views or whatever.

00:11:00.000 And then Fox News, they're huge, you know, 3 million views.

00:11:03.000 They're rivaling, you know, Rachel Maddow and they're, they're bouncing back and forth between CNN and the rate of beating CNN in the ratings.

00:11:11.000 But you combine all of these media outlets and their bias, Fox News doesn't really reach that level.

00:11:16.000 So it's like CNN doing that show is really weird in my opinion, but more to the point.

00:11:22.000 CNN's coverage has been just absolutely awful, along with many of these other outlets.

00:11:27.000 Now we're hearing this guy say all this stuff, I'm just kind of like...

00:11:31.000 You know, I have something I call the CNN challenge.

00:11:34.000 I did call the CNN challenge.

00:11:35.000 You can't really do it anymore because Trump's not president.

00:11:37.000 But I would, I'm somebody who watches the news and I would turn out, I used to watch CNN.

00:11:42.000 I used to leave CNN running in the background.

00:11:44.000 So I'd have some like breaking news, you know, here's what's happening.

00:11:46.000 And then, just one day, I'm like, are they talking about Trump again?

00:11:50.000 So I switched to Fox News, and they're like, protests erupt in Iran.

00:11:54.000 You know, protesters in Tehran are doing, and I'm like, wow, this is big.

00:11:58.000 And then I switched back to CNN, like, but Trump, what you need to understand about Trump, and I'm like, okay.

00:12:02.000 So I did it several times.

00:12:04.000 One point, Fox News is like, Hong Kong, protests erupt, China's moving in, turn to CNN.

00:12:08.000 Now Donald Trump is...

00:12:10.000 I even turned to CNN, to Fox News once, and they're like, a big winter storm is headed our way!

00:12:13.000 Everyone you need to buckle down, turn to CNN.

00:12:15.000 Oh, Donald Trump!

00:12:16.000 And so I just called it the Trump Challenge, because that's basically what they're, you know, they're bread and butter.

00:12:20.000 Now take all of that information, and someone made a really interesting point.

00:12:24.000 With this CNN technical director stating, in numerous videos, we were activists, we were trying to get the president out, the goal was political, we produced propaganda.

00:12:33.000 Some people have said that fulfills the actual malice standard now allowing Donald Trump to sue CNN for defamation because you have a CNN staffer, a director on the record saying, yeah, we're full of it.

00:12:46.000 Can you use this guy's, is it testimony?

00:12:49.000 Is this considered, what is it?

00:12:50.000 Can you use this guy's statements as like in a court of law?

00:12:53.000 I don't know.

00:12:54.000 I'm not a lawyer.

00:12:55.000 No, I mean they would have to get him tested.

00:12:58.000 I don't think there's any chance of that.

00:12:59.000 The actual malice standard, you know, New York Times v. Salomon, which is the case, especially the federal courts, the judiciary in terms of the case on this has been very predisposed towards deference, towards Media speech.

00:13:14.000 And I think that's the way to go.

00:13:15.000 And I just, for them, they would have to show, number one, that it was representative of CNN.

00:13:21.000 And of who spoke in the first place.

00:13:23.000 Exactly.

00:13:23.000 Did he have the authority as an agency to say that?

00:13:27.000 And the individual who reported, say, Donald Trump, you know, punched a goat or something.

00:13:33.000 Right.

00:13:34.000 Was it the same person?

00:13:35.000 Right.

00:13:35.000 Did that person genuinely believe they're telling the truth?

00:13:37.000 It's not so cut and dry.

00:13:39.000 But I actually, I agree to a certain degree that protecting speech for the media is important, in that sometimes there's a legitimate attempt at reporting news, you make a mistake, and if we sued every time someone got something wrong, There wouldn't be news outlets.

00:13:56.000 Right.

00:13:56.000 News outlets should correct.

00:13:57.000 And I guess that was the intent.

00:13:59.000 It was like, well, you know, they can just correct the record, but there's no obligation to do it.

00:14:03.000 That's problem number one.

00:14:05.000 If CNN writes fake news and Donald Trump says, please correct this, they can say no.

00:14:11.000 Then, you know, Trump or somebody will file a defamation suit and the judge will say, anti-slap, you're dismissed, get out.

00:14:18.000 So how do you correct the record when these news outlets are lying and you can't break through that, you know, actual mal-standard, that barrier?

00:14:24.000 Well, I think the ultimate correction point you would hope, and certainly I believe it is, is that, you know, credibility is lost, right?

00:14:31.000 That the consumer ultimately gets to decide what they want with news, right?

00:14:35.000 You have people watching this show, you have people watching CNN, whatever their reasons, you have people reading across the gamut of news and commentary, and that ultimately we would hope that people decide actually when they see stuff coming out, and a lack of responsibility, right?

00:14:50.000 People are willing to forgive mistakes, that perhaps it's not the place for them to That's the inverse, though.

00:14:56.000 If CNN admits they were wrong, they lose credibility.

00:14:59.000 Well, they lose credibility with their most loyal base, but I think if they don't admit they're wrong, then no one knows they were wrong.

00:15:07.000 Well, I think people are talking about, I mean, Project Veritas, right?

00:15:12.000 That it's out there.

00:15:13.000 I agree with you.

00:15:14.000 You note earlier that I think it's absolutely true, the fact that Fox News is in its own, at least in cable news, kind of wilderness.

00:15:21.000 And we see this, right, with Newsmax trying to break in there.

00:15:24.000 And struggling to get on and we saw actually you know it and it's it's something there's going to be a great battle in the UK coming up with a couple of new networks trying to break in there and some of the lobbying already the BBC they don't want that competition in there Canada with the Sun News Network that wasn't able to be viable because it wasn't able to get on you know providers yeah and and so yeah it's a double-edged sword If you can't force them to correct, we have a very serious problem.

00:15:54.000 Because then there's incentive to lie.

00:15:56.000 They make money on the lie.

00:15:57.000 If they write a fake news story, they could be sitting there thinking like, look, the worst case scenario is we write a story saying Donald Trump punches a baby goat, we're going to get 10 million views, we're going to make hundreds of thousands of dollars, and if we have to retract tomorrow, it's no big deal.

00:16:13.000 Because you know what?

00:16:14.000 They make money on the retraction as well.

00:16:16.000 Yeah, and you know, I think a broader challenge there is that I used to think one of the great solutions to this is we have Google News, right, that you can read around.

00:16:24.000 And then I realized, well, Google News seems to be providing some news outlets more equal than others, you know, it's borrowed from Orwell.

00:16:31.000 And it's really, I mean, it's true, you know, I don't know.

00:16:34.000 And I don't know why.

00:16:36.000 Well, I have my suspicions that there's an inherent bias.

00:16:38.000 I actually emailed Google about this and they said, no, no, no, no, our algorithms prevent that from ever happening.

00:16:45.000 Okay.

00:16:45.000 I'm not convinced that that might be the case.

00:16:47.000 So, you know, as you said, right, people need to be able to not only access the news, but know that CounterPoint exists.

00:16:54.000 And people are busy, right?

00:16:56.000 Yes, right.

00:16:57.000 So the problem I see is this.

00:16:59.000 You hire a plumber, you know when the plumber doesn't fix your toilet. 0.84

00:17:03.000 Right.

00:17:04.000 So you're like, hey buddy, I need you to come in and fix the toilet.

00:17:06.000 He comes in and says, your toilet's all fixed.

00:17:07.000 And you're like, all right, you flush it.

00:17:08.000 And then the water spills out and you're like, it's not fixed.

00:17:11.000 I can see it's broken.

00:17:12.000 With news, you're hoping that what they're telling you is the truth.

00:17:16.000 After they come out and they say, here's your official news report on the Middle East.

00:17:19.000 Go ahead and read it.

00:17:20.000 You're like, I'm assuming it's true.

00:17:23.000 I just cross my fingers and hope the guy I hired to do the job is telling me the truth.

00:17:27.000 And often they're not.

00:17:28.000 They do clever tricks.

00:17:29.000 Sometimes it's the truth, but you omit half the information.

00:17:33.000 The story is very different.

00:17:34.000 For instance, when the Trump slump hit and the ratings dropped, Newsmax ratings go down.

00:17:41.000 CNN ratings go down.

00:17:43.000 What does CNN report?

00:17:44.000 Newsmax ratings collapse!

00:17:47.000 But if they told you the truth, everyone's ratings went down.

00:17:50.000 The reality was people in general are just tired of news.

00:17:53.000 By framing it only as Newsmax, they make it seem like Trump's followers are losing faith or they're not interested.

00:18:00.000 In reality, it had nothing to do with it.

00:18:02.000 Right.

00:18:02.000 That's just the manipulation.

00:18:03.000 It's the framing technique.

00:18:04.000 Right, I mean it is and you know I do think though if we look at the ability of especially the younger generation to access you know the astuteness with which they are dealing with technology and looking for you know more creative even rebellious kind of outlooks So, that dynamic is only going to continue to grow.

00:18:29.000 And I know that sounds kind of basic and shallow and sort of almost kind of corporatist in its simplicity.

00:18:35.000 But if you look at foreign locales, for example, the degree to which, for example, Clubhouse is performing, you know, a massive challenge to China, that the censors, this industrial, you know, hundreds of thousands of people employed to constrain flows of information.

00:18:52.000 They can't because then there's a sub-clubhouse and then there's, you know, someone goes across and uses a cut-out ISP and, you know, and certainly that's what we've been doing, what the U.S.

00:19:02.000 was doing in Iran.

00:19:02.000 I think the Biden administration has actually cut it off, the CIA program, but... We were allowing Iranians to communicate We were providing them with independent satellite, internet satellite.

00:19:17.000 As I understand it, yeah.

00:19:19.000 It's part of a covert action program that the Trump administration set up.

00:19:23.000 Wow.

00:19:24.000 I mean, that seems like a good thing.

00:19:25.000 Helping people communicate with each other.

00:19:28.000 Yeah, human rights as well, right?

00:19:30.000 Trump supposedly didn't like that so much.

00:19:32.000 Well, Biden must not be for human rights, I suppose.

00:19:34.000 I'm starting to have a hard time differentiating between The Onion and CNN and random YouTuber spouting who he hates and loves. 0.98

00:19:44.000 It's all becoming this crap hole, just opinion. 0.98

00:19:49.000 And is it even farce? 0.99

00:19:51.000 I can't even tell.

00:19:52.000 You know what the funny thing is?

00:19:53.000 The Babylon Bee is, at this point, I'm gonna wag my finger.

00:19:57.000 They're not satire anymore, you know why?

00:20:00.000 Because they're actually reporting the truth, but facetiously.

00:20:05.000 So they'll say something like, I think it was the Babylon Bee that put this out.

00:20:10.000 They say after securing peace in the Middle East, the U.S.

00:20:13.000 announces they'll withdraw from Afghanistan because Joe Biden announced we're going to be withdrawing from Afghanistan in September.

00:20:17.000 Hey, I'm all for that.

00:20:18.000 Thank you, Joe Biden.

00:20:19.000 I mean it.

00:20:20.000 All right.

00:20:21.000 No, I think he's going to just throw him right back into Syria. 0.99

00:20:23.000 So, you know, we got to make sure we're going to stay vigilant on this one.

00:20:26.000 But I do think it's funny when the Babylon Bee reports a story that it is satire.

00:20:31.000 They're making fun of it, but it's like Basically the truth, but snarky.

00:20:36.000 So that's like, we're in such a world of absurdity that even now, I mean, look, the Biden administration is ripe for parody, especially right now.

00:20:45.000 Kyle Kashuv tweeted, I was told by so many people that if we voted for Joe Biden, everything would come back to normal and the violence would stop.

00:20:53.000 So where are we at, guys?

00:20:55.000 The riots are kicking back up.

00:20:56.000 Everything's getting worse.

00:20:58.000 It is a world of parody, man.

00:21:00.000 I do think still, and of course my accent would suggest bias here, but I'm trying to, you know, be objective.

00:21:07.000 BBC News, their website, I think it's still very good.

00:21:12.000 There is, of course, bias.

00:21:14.000 The analytical, when they have some of the reporters doing their analysis, I think the bias comes through the more.

00:21:19.000 But the basic nuts and bolts reporting on there and the ability to kind of go in different places, a lot of that is informed by some of the World Service stuff they do.

00:21:29.000 And there are actually pretty good structured checks and balances at BBC.

00:21:34.000 I complained about a piece their Russian BBC News wrote about me, about an article I'd written a couple of years ago.

00:21:42.000 They have a two-week response to complaints, it goes through a process.

00:21:46.000 So, of course, the counterpoint to that is, well, that is being paid for by, you know, the TV license fee, which everyone in the UK has to pay.

00:21:56.000 So there's a tax, you know, so this is not, you know... BBC is pretty good.

00:22:00.000 But you've got to read around, I suppose.

00:22:03.000 Exactly.

00:22:04.000 You've got to read around, which is sad, you know.

00:22:06.000 It's, you know, pretty good doesn't mean you can just trust every single thing you're going to read from them or from anybody.

00:22:12.000 So, you know, when it comes to sources, they have a lot of dry articles.

00:22:15.000 That's a good thing.

00:22:16.000 Right.

00:22:16.000 When you read the news and it's like, you know, Donald Trump said today that he was planning on putting tariffs on this country.

00:22:21.000 Joe Biden responded, you know, blah, blah, blah.

00:22:23.000 And that's just it's just that.

00:22:24.000 Yeah.

00:22:24.000 Like, OK, that's that's probably just, you know, good.

00:22:27.000 Right.

00:22:27.000 It's when they start talking about the far right and, you know, yeah, it's like opinion.

00:22:32.000 All right.

00:22:33.000 But here's the important point about the Times v. Sullivan thing, that Project Veritas has just won and may set precedent for years to come.

00:22:42.000 I'm sure you're familiar.

00:22:43.000 They're suing the New York Times.

00:22:44.000 You heard about that?

00:22:44.000 Yes.

00:22:45.000 Well, they got past the motion to dismiss, which is huge.

00:22:47.000 I think James said only eight times in the past, you know, 80 years or whatever has a motion to dismiss been, have people gotten past that.

00:22:56.000 And what the judge basically said is that, you know, well, hold on.

00:22:59.000 The New York Times said, These statements about Project Veritas being deceptive are unverifiable opinion, and thus are not actionable.

00:23:09.000 And so the judge responded, okay, well, if that was the case, then I guess a fact-based news article, or at least one purporting to be, would have to inform its readers this is an opinion, not assert an opinion as a fact.

00:23:21.000 In which case, I guess he's basically saying, if you say, this article I'm about to read to you is 100% fact, Ian is a deceiver and a liar, Then the assumption is I'm saying statements of fact in a newspaper.

00:23:34.000 Yeah, I just think when we get to the Supreme Court, I take the point that the case law is trying to, I think the judges are trying to get a little bit more nuance on this.

00:23:42.000 And when it gets to the Supreme Court, I think it's probably going to be, you know, eight to one in favor in the New York Times.

00:23:48.000 Why do you think so?

00:23:49.000 Because I think the judiciary, and I really, ultimately, I think it's the right course.

00:23:54.000 That they should be allowed to lie?

00:23:56.000 No, that maximal speech for all its cost, lies included, is advantageous over Not so much restricted speech, but the chilling of speech I think that is the great concern in jurisprudence and really foundational actually to the United States I mean and you look at how the contrast in English defamation law for example, which is why you know, we were talking earlier I think why we have the Qatar World Cup.

00:24:21.000 It's a very good case to be made for that that the lawyers the Sunday Times and Didn't report as early as they could have on the bribery.

00:24:29.000 It's interesting, for example, how much American journalists will get letters from English London PR or legal firms saying, this is highly defamatory, take it down.

00:24:45.000 Maybe because it is and it's a lot of lies.

00:24:48.000 I don't think it is.

00:24:50.000 I think when you're talking about Russian organized crime bosses who like to kill people and it doesn't get reported in the British media because they have a lot of money or take you to court, it's good that I'm writing about that. 1.00

00:25:02.000 I couldn't do that in England and that matters, that stuff.

00:25:05.000 The problem then is that they literally just make things up.

00:25:10.000 Activists are dominating these newsrooms.

00:25:12.000 And when, you know, the idea works when you have a newsroom that's filled with people of good moral standing.

00:25:18.000 You'll have a few bad people trying to lie, but when activists take over a newsroom like they did in the New York Times, and they did, several employees have already resigned or been forced out or written letters about it.

00:25:27.000 Then they're just gonna be like, awesome, now we're gonna use Times v. Sullivan to say whatever we want about whoever we want and there's nothing they can do about it.

00:25:34.000 Then they literally come out and say, the New York Times said in their defense, our news article which is purporting to be statements of fact are actually unverifiable opinion, and the average reader doesn't know that.

00:25:45.000 You know, I guess I have more confidence in the average reader in terms of being more discriminant.

00:25:50.000 I think certainly, again, this generational shift.

00:25:53.000 I mean, you look at, you know, your viewership.

00:25:57.000 The Hill, Sagar and Jetty, and Crystal Ball's show.

00:26:00.000 You know, these new-form media places are just growing exponentially.

00:26:04.000 And, you know, you've got to think that some of these people are, even if they're not necessarily abandoning, they're still reading the New York Times.

00:26:14.000 They're reading around more or viewing around more.

00:26:17.000 And so, you know, I do think, again, at some point you're always going to have those people who want to hear what they want to hear.

00:26:23.000 But you're also going to have, I think, a lot of people who get slightly frustrated with limited time, right?

00:26:29.000 They want to be informed.

00:26:30.000 You know, investigative journalism that really stands up is still the best way to generate traffic.

00:26:35.000 You know, I'm fairly optimistic, so I would say I agree with you more than I don't.

00:26:39.000 I may be concerned about a lot of these lies, but with Substack, with the sheer panic we're seeing in the faces of these corporate media outlets, they're freaking out.

00:26:47.000 Glenn Greenwald just announced that he's going to be taking on freelance writers for his Substack.

00:26:52.000 Which is like, just the other day I was saying like, man, we gotta see Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald start bringing out people, grow their organizations, use the Substack model to create new news outlets.

00:27:01.000 He's doing it.

00:27:01.000 What is Substack?

00:27:02.000 It's just basically like Patreon for writing, I guess.

00:27:07.000 You can set up an account, tell people, you know, X dollars a month, and you can see my articles.

00:27:12.000 Oh, cool.

00:27:12.000 And then Glenn writes his articles, as he's always done, and people will toss him a couple bucks a month to do so.

00:27:17.000 Yeah, love it.

00:27:18.000 I mean, think about it.

00:27:18.000 You get 10,000...

00:27:21.000 True fans, just $10,000.

00:27:23.000 At $10 a month, you're making a million bucks.

00:27:25.000 And then Substack takes a cut?

00:27:27.000 Right now, I think Substack is actually taking most of the money, but they're writing huge advance checks to basically kickstart the careers, or I should say the... You know, right now, there are some people who have like 1,000 or 2,000 paying subscribers.

00:27:42.000 It's enough for maybe a younger person, someone who's older with a family, especially a prominent writer is going to be like, I'm going to be losing a lot of money, cutting my salary in half to do this.

00:27:50.000 So they're announcing, okay, we'll give you half a million dollars for two years, which is huge.

00:27:55.000 And then after the two years is up, we revert the subscriptions back to you and we get 10% or something.

00:28:02.000 Interesting.

00:28:03.000 Yeah and we do see with you know with like Twitchy with gaming the degree to which people are even not for influence which is I think quite refreshing but and the same is true with Substack or at least with Patreon.

00:28:16.000 I'm not sure if it is true with Substack.

00:28:18.000 Are willing to, you know, pay more for that extra tier, right?

00:28:22.000 To me, engage, maybe a phone call, you know, a video conference, whatever.

00:28:26.000 And it's not kind of editorial pressure, right?

00:28:28.000 That a company that is, you know, buying millions of dollars of ads, you know, so there's that kind of fresher investment portfolio that goes with that.

00:28:37.000 And it's also interesting, you think about Matty Glacius from Vox.

00:28:41.000 Vox was that kind of fresh startup and he sort of left there and is doing his stuff.

00:28:45.000 So there's this constant revolutionary dynamic in media, which you've got to think is positive.

00:28:50.000 This is a great thing, because what a lot of these people are realizing too, some of these people have 300-400,000 followers on Twitter, and now they're seeing someone with only 1,000 fans, but real fans, paying 10 bucks a month, these people are now making a six-figure salary, and these people on Twitter are like, You're getting paid?

00:29:09.000 I got hundreds of thousands of people and I'm not getting any money.

00:29:12.000 You got some people who work, you know, they got hundreds of thousands of followers.

00:29:15.000 They go and work for CNN.

00:29:16.000 What are they getting paid?

00:29:18.000 A six-figure salary probably, decent.

00:29:20.000 And they're thinking like, if I got 10,000 of my followers to pay 10 bucks a month, I'd be a millionaire.

00:29:25.000 So they're going to start leaving these companies.

00:29:26.000 They're going to cut off that editorial oversight.

00:29:29.000 And this guy who says, this is what CNN does.

00:29:31.000 We propagandize to help Trump, to help, you know, to make Trump lose.

00:29:35.000 People are going to leave, and they're not going to be involved in that anymore, and they're going to be like, I can write about whatever I want. 0.99

00:29:38.000 And then they're going to start, well, a lot of people will just write tribal garbage, because, you know, a lot of people are just tribal garbage.

00:29:44.000 But a lot of people are going to write what they feel like writing. 0.96

00:29:46.000 And I think this is good, because it's going to diversify opinions in a lot of ways.

00:29:49.000 And then we're going to watch these news outlets just... Yep.

00:29:52.000 And then they will be connected through the confetti-verse.

00:29:55.000 Confediverse?

00:29:56.000 Yeah.

00:29:57.000 Why are you calling it the Confediverse?

00:29:58.000 We're gonna confederate, basically, so that we all interoperate.

00:30:02.000 That's a very poor choice of word.

00:30:04.000 Well, rather than it being a Fediverse where it's top-down, I don't know, whatever.

00:30:08.000 Call it whatever we want.

00:30:09.000 I think Metanet's another cool name.

00:30:11.000 The Federation of Speakers.

00:30:13.000 Federation is cool, like Star Trek.

00:30:15.000 We don't need confederacy in this game, Ian.

00:30:17.000 These companies that are like, you know, like siphoning off the value of their workers that are like, come work for me and I'll recoup the ad revenue and then pay you a salary.

00:30:27.000 That's going away.

00:30:27.000 I get it.

00:30:28.000 I get it.

00:30:29.000 But just for branding, let's try and go like Star Trek, you know, the Federation of Planets.

00:30:34.000 United Federation of Planets.

00:30:35.000 Yeah.

00:30:35.000 Instead of the confederacy, you know what I mean?

00:30:36.000 I don't even know, what's the difference between a confederacy and a federacy?

00:30:39.000 I think a confederacy is within a unitary political structure at the top, whereas the federation is many different... So the confederacy has one, you know, president and the federation is a sort of council.

00:30:57.000 But I may have got that totally wrong, so I'll just shut up!

00:31:00.000 It might be the other way around, actually.

00:31:01.000 Yeah, like the federal government, you know.

00:31:05.000 But I don't know.

00:31:06.000 I don't know.

00:31:06.000 I think honestly, it might be like that.

00:31:08.000 You're probably right.

00:31:09.000 Flammable and inflammable.

00:31:10.000 Con just means with.

00:31:11.000 So with federation.

00:31:12.000 That's flammable and inflammable.

00:31:14.000 Beware.

00:31:14.000 Same thing.

00:31:15.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:31:17.000 It's just branding.

00:31:18.000 It's just branding.

00:31:18.000 Hey, you want to you want to be like the sci fi future of awesome?

00:31:22.000 Or do you want to sound like those guys now?

00:31:24.000 So we just had an exercise there in being wary of a British accent being the deliverer of intellectual analysis. 0.86

00:31:30.000 We've been working on this Fediverse project, and I think writers are going that way too.

00:31:35.000 It's not only going to be video makers, it's going to be all sorts of creators.

00:31:37.000 Oh, I want to put Substack out of business.

00:31:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:39.000 So listen to this.

00:31:41.000 You write for Substack.

00:31:42.000 These people are making six figures and it's fantastic, but Substack wants to take 10%.

00:31:46.000 The hosting cost of an article is nothing.

00:31:50.000 The hosting cost of a video is substantial.

00:31:53.000 So, you got, look, if you're somebody who makes videos for YouTube, I understand why you want to use YouTube.

00:32:01.000 Because uploading videos, this live stream, my friends, those of you who are listening to this, we're live right now on YouTube.

00:32:06.000 This would be so insanely expensive.

00:32:08.000 You know, 32,000 plus viewers, you know, we sometimes reach 50 or even 60.

00:32:13.000 We've had over a hundred and some episodes.

00:32:15.000 I've calculated those costs with business-to-business companies in the past, and that's going to cost you thousands of dollars per minute or hour.

00:32:21.000 Like, it's just gnarly, the cost.

00:32:24.000 Because you've got to understand this.

00:32:26.000 The transmission of a high-definition broadcast, 2 megabits per second, going up and then going out to, you know, 40,000 people, so multiply your bandwidth, and like, woo!

00:32:36.000 So use YouTube.

00:32:36.000 YouTube subsidizes these costs.

00:32:38.000 Substack, though.

00:32:39.000 You write an article, it's text.

00:32:41.000 It's like, there's no data at all, basically.

00:32:43.000 It's a tiny file.

00:32:44.000 So what are you paying Substack 10% for?

00:32:47.000 So we want to make this project, we're actually working on it, Ian spearheading it, where you can download this open source package for your own website that turns your website into your own privately owned subscription service platform, just like a regular website with a membership option.

00:33:01.000 But it's like one click and boom, you're done.

00:33:04.000 That also networks you with all the other websites that use the same software.

00:33:07.000 So effectively, You won't need to go to Substack or Patreon or any of these other subscription services because now someone can own their own website and keep 100% of the revenue that comes in with open source free software.

00:33:19.000 Right.

00:33:19.000 That's the mission.

00:33:20.000 That sounds pretty cool.

00:33:21.000 Yeah, well, you know, we'll see.

00:33:24.000 I wouldn't say it's too ambitious.

00:33:26.000 No.

00:33:26.000 It's not particularly complicated.

00:33:27.000 No, it's going to happen regardless.

00:33:29.000 We're just helping it along.

00:33:30.000 And this is going to help decentralize the news media.

00:33:34.000 It's going to help decentralize commentary.

00:33:36.000 It's going to protect people who would have their income destroyed by a subscription service that says, well, you're offensive and we don't want you on our platform.

00:33:42.000 All right.

00:33:42.000 Well, now it's your own website.

00:33:44.000 You still got to deal with your hosting provider, you know, who's running your servers, where you get your domain names from.

00:33:48.000 You still got to follow their rules.

00:33:49.000 There's still some, you know, payment processor.

00:33:51.000 I think in the future we'll be able to find workarounds for all of those things.

00:33:55.000 And one open source package that covers everything.

00:33:57.000 Yeah, man.

00:33:58.000 Simplicity and control are good combinations for respective creators.

00:34:02.000 Then people will be allowed to express themselves honestly and without manipulation and without fear of getting canceled.

00:34:09.000 That's the plan. 0.97

00:34:10.000 Let's jump to this next story, though, because, you know, we went a little long on that one, but I thought it was worth talking about because the media is trash.

00:34:16.000 Yeah, and I forced my daily shout out to the Fediverse. 0.69

00:34:19.000 Rock and roll.

00:34:19.000 There we go.

00:34:20.000 Yeah, I mean, the Fediverse is a ton of, like, mastodon.

00:34:22.000 It's particularly lefty.

00:34:24.000 But it's a protocol.

00:34:25.000 You can't do anything about it.

00:34:26.000 Check this out.

00:34:27.000 You guys have heard.

00:34:28.000 There are riots going on.

00:34:29.000 We got this story from ABC5 Eyewitness News.

00:34:33.000 Sources say Washington County Attorney's Office expected to charge officer in Brooklyn Center shooting on Wednesday.

00:34:39.000 So this is this woman.

00:34:40.000 Her name is Kim Potter.

00:34:42.000 The case was sent to the Washington County Attorney's Office to avoid a conflict of interest with the Hennepin County Attorney's Office, which works closely with Brooklyn Center's police on criminal cases.

00:34:51.000 The extent of the charges will be learned tomorrow.

00:34:53.000 Brooklyn Center police released body camera video that shows Officer Potter shooting and killing 20-year-old Daunte Wright Sunday afternoon.

00:35:00.000 Brooklyn Center's former police chief, Tim Gannon, he... the police chief resigned today?

00:35:03.000 This is nuts.

00:35:04.000 The city's... like the whole area is just falling apart.

00:35:08.000 And you know what?

00:35:17.000 I can't speak too much for this officer Kim Potter.

00:35:21.000 She shot somebody.

00:35:21.000 Cops.

00:35:22.000 Look, I don't care who you are.

00:35:23.000 You're responsible for what comes out of your gun.

00:35:24.000 That's just basic, you know, gun responsibility.

00:35:27.000 I understand it wasn't intentional, or at least it's what they're claiming.

00:35:30.000 We'll see how this investigation goes.

00:35:31.000 But for the police chief to resign, I'm like, I'm giving him applauses.

00:35:34.000 Yeah.

00:35:35.000 Bravo.

00:35:35.000 I think every single cop in the Twin Cities area and suburbs, they should all right now turn in their badges and walk away.

00:35:42.000 Why?

00:35:43.000 They should all resign.

00:35:45.000 All of them right now, right at once.

00:35:47.000 You must be joking.

00:35:48.000 I am not.

00:35:49.000 I mean it.

00:35:49.000 Why do you think they should resign?

00:35:51.000 Well, because these leftists have demanded the police be abolished.

00:35:54.000 I think the police say, okay.

00:35:57.000 I think, yes, absolutely.

00:35:58.000 Police, you're not wanted here.

00:35:59.000 The activists have said so.

00:36:00.000 The logic oozes out of you.

00:36:01.000 You know what the issue is?

00:36:03.000 Where are the regular people standing up and saying, no, don't do this?

00:36:09.000 When the police were under threat last year, when the riots were sweeping across the state in these cities, the police were scapegoated, were insulted, berated over the actions of a few.

00:36:20.000 I'm not a big fan of the place as a whole.

00:36:22.000 I think they need reform.

00:36:23.000 But I understand individuals, many of these cops, they're good people.

00:36:26.000 They're not trying to get in between and get in politics.

00:36:28.000 There are some real risks with trying to neutrally enforce the law when you've got some people saying you gotta do one thing, some people saying you gotta do the other thing, and then accidents happen.

00:36:35.000 Some cops are really bad people.

00:36:37.000 They should be held accountable.

00:36:38.000 But we need police.

00:36:40.000 A civil society requires police to be able to make arrests.

00:36:43.000 This guy Dante, right?

00:36:44.000 He was wanted now.

00:36:45.000 They're reporting an aggravated robbery.

00:36:47.000 So that was his warrant.

00:36:48.000 Like, okay, that's a legit crime.

00:36:49.000 Don't resist.

00:36:51.000 If the cops are arresting you, you fight it in court.

00:36:53.000 And he decided to jump in his car and scuffle it out with the cops. 0.99

00:36:57.000 These cops are being treated like trash. 0.93

00:36:59.000 So I say they show all of these people, they tell the people where they live, if people here won't stand up for us. 0.96

00:37:08.000 If people here aren't willing to do what it takes to empower the police to protect them, they must not want them there.

00:37:13.000 So here's what I see.

00:37:15.000 The loudest, the squeaky wheel are those who riot, saying, abolish the police.

00:37:18.000 Rashida Tlaib, what did she say?

00:37:20.000 No more policing!

00:37:21.000 No more!

00:37:21.000 Get them out of there!

00:37:22.000 And the cops stand defiant and say, we will not stand for this.

00:37:25.000 But I mean, we've been seeing even conservatives throw Blue Lives Matter flags in the dirt and step on it because the cops were enforcing these unconstitutional lockdowns.

00:37:33.000 Right now, what we need are the regular people to prove that they actually want the police.

00:37:40.000 If they won't do that, then, as far as I'm concerned, the vote's in.

00:37:44.000 But how do they do that?

00:37:45.000 Stand up, go outside, protest, hold big rallies and say, we support our police.

00:37:50.000 They won't do it though.

00:37:51.000 They will not do it.

00:37:53.000 Says to me, they don't care.

00:37:55.000 I really, really think most people don't care about any of this.

00:37:58.000 And so my point is, what do you think will happen if the police say, blue flu, we're all sick?

00:38:04.000 It will take 10 seconds for the people of these cities to call the officers personally and say, please, I beg of you, come back. 0.99

00:38:12.000 Or the department will hire a bunch of scabs and the crap officers will come in and do really crappy jobs and be violent and even worse. 0.99

00:38:19.000 What do you think is happening already? 0.99

00:38:21.000 Is that happening?

00:38:22.000 All the good cops, I should say all of them, but many of the good cops quit last year.

00:38:25.000 In Seattle, in Portland, and in Minneapolis, we saw across the country in Exodus, the good cops were the ones saying, I will not be abused, I will not be a party to this, and I will not stand by while the DA, the prosecutors, allow rioters to destroy these cities, and they do nothing.

00:38:39.000 When we arrest them, I'm done.

00:38:40.000 You got it.

00:38:41.000 They voted for this.

00:38:42.000 They had an election.

00:38:44.000 And they voted for this.

00:38:46.000 So at this point, I'm dumbfounded as the police who think they're going to be accept- what they're doing is acceptable in a community that absolutely despises them.

00:38:54.000 I also think that we have to be careful here though, because I think the very best cops stay for all this in the same way that some of the very best, you know, members of the military or whatever professional branch under pressure, nurses, you know, that they- a sense of duty, which is kind of Antithetical to some of the contemporary discourse, but people who truly believe that kinship of service, of going out there and still doing it, whether for religious reasons, just moral reasons.

00:39:27.000 I agree that, at the political level, I agree with you.

00:39:31.000 I'm surprised that, frankly, the Republican Party hasn't been more aggressive in terms of saying, hey look, body cameras, zero-sum game, let's get those body cameras, everyone, right?

00:39:41.000 It's great, good cops, love it, great evidence, okay?

00:39:44.000 What's the worst that happens?

00:39:45.000 They get, you know, locker room talk is caught in the car.

00:39:48.000 But most of us in society think, okay, fine.

00:39:52.000 But at the level of, you know, again Rashida Tlaib, right, who is held up as by the media will say on one hand, well she doesn't represent the Democratic Party, on the other hand this great sort of new visionary for the party, you know, having the cake and eating it, you know, this is pretty wacko stuff.

00:40:11.000 The big issue is that these cops will arrest these extremists, the rioters, the looters.

00:40:15.000 And then the DA will say, you're free to go and release them without charge.

00:40:19.000 A bunch of felony charges in Portland got dropped.

00:40:22.000 And these cops are like, well, I'll just keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome.

00:40:26.000 Or I guess some of the cops are probably like, well, I know they're not going to jail, but I sure love bashing skulls.

00:40:30.000 I can't imagine.

00:40:33.000 So let me let me slow down for a minute state police who were brought in to Portland Retreated saying we arrest these people and the prosecutors let them go.

00:40:41.000 We're done.

00:40:41.000 We're not doing this anymore And I'm like, thank you.

00:40:44.000 That makes sense.

00:40:45.000 And then what happened was the DHS deputized state police as federal law enforcement so that when the state police arrested someone the federal prosecutors could step in and Brilliant.

00:40:58.000 No escalation of force, no military coming in, and now these people were getting prosecuted, and you know what happened?

00:41:04.000 Many of the activists ran scared.

00:41:06.000 I shouldn't call them activists.

00:41:08.000 Activists are great. 1.00

00:41:09.000 These are extremists and terrorists.

00:41:11.000 They started panicking, writing blogs saying, the FBI showed up to my house.

00:41:14.000 The FBI showed up to my friend's house.

00:41:16.000 This is not a game anymore.

00:41:18.000 The cost for the extremists, when they burn down buildings, is much too low.

00:41:24.000 They're risking people's lives.

00:41:26.000 There was active gunfire the other night in the Minneapolis area, and the cost for these people is zero.

00:41:32.000 In Portland, what happened to those guys who fired hundreds of rounds from rifles into an SUV with two teenagers killing them?

00:41:39.000 The cost was nothing.

00:41:41.000 And these extremists know it.

00:41:42.000 They can go out, they can burn things down, and nothing will happen.

00:41:45.000 Well, the cost is Cop will jam you up.

00:41:47.000 But don't worry, your good buddy in the DA will cut you loose in two seconds, and the cops will just shrug.

00:41:51.000 The cops need to be like, eh, I'm not gonna do it.

00:41:54.000 You do it.

00:41:54.000 I also think one of the great tragic, you know, ironies here is that, you know, the Black Lives Matter movement, you know, trying to address, you know, real issues.

00:42:05.000 At the same time, the utter unwillingness to face up to the fact that we talk about what do police officers do, for example, Well, we've seen it right in the in the summer crime waves baltimore, uh chicago It was a baltimore sun columnist who wrote a great piece on this.

00:42:19.000 I think you know a year ago The cops stop doing their job, right that they that I am not going to entertain this personal risk to me this liability vilification In case I get it wrong and what is the consequence of that?

00:42:32.000 Well in some of these areas in many of these cities where the predominant homicide issue is young black men killing other young black men More young black men die and and and and as a society then when we have Rashida Tlaib saying this Does she seriously care about the interest she's talking about the facts would suggest I would say forensically that she does not And and making that case, you know, you would think there would be opportunities here for you know young Republican mares independent mares to run and say hey

00:43:04.000 We are going to have accountability on the part of the police.

00:43:06.000 Again, that body camera issue.

00:43:09.000 You know, very well funded internal affairs departments.

00:43:12.000 But at the same time, we're going to go out and try and stop criminality.

00:43:16.000 And there's a racism in the sense that people wouldn't want that.

00:43:19.000 You know, of course, most people want to be able to live their lives in safety.

00:43:23.000 You take a look at what the left tends to care about, what the media tends to report on, and it's getting just so obvious, it's mind numbing.

00:43:30.000 You know, there's a viral tweet, I can't remember what it's from, so forgive me, but they were saying something like, the media actually, you know, sorts through all the different news stories, trying to find the one story that would cause the most hate and division, that will get them traffic and get them clicks to their website.

00:43:48.000 And that fuels all of this.

00:43:49.000 Then you end up with a bunch of young people who are deranged.

00:43:52.000 I mean, there's a video, I don't know if you guys have seen it, where it's this guy with no shirt on, on the ground,

00:43:56.000 just screaming and crying, Black Lives Matter! 1.00

00:44:00.000 Like, at the top of his lungs, and I'm like, this man needs to turn Twitter off, turn off the TV, like, go see a movie,

00:44:07.000 go watch Birds of Prey.

00:44:09.000 Maybe he'll like that one, okay? And then he'll just like, calm down, dude, the world is not ending, things are not

00:44:15.000 worse than they've ever been. 0.96

00:44:16.000 These people have genuinely gone nuts. 0.89

00:44:18.000 And then from this, you get people pandering to them. 0.93

00:44:21.000 The politicians, people like Rashid Tlaib, step up and they say something like, I'm gonna say something mindless and insane and hope that someone votes for me because of it.

00:44:28.000 And then the whole system just decays.

00:44:30.000 I'm looking at this Tlaib quote that police should be abolished because, this is from Daily Mail, because force is intentionally racist, this is the quote, intentionally racist and cannot be reformed.

00:44:41.000 Force is intentionally racist.

00:44:44.000 It cannot be reformed.

00:44:45.000 Force is like a scientific phrase.

00:44:48.000 It's a mechanical function.

00:44:51.000 So Rashida Tlaib, in response to all of this, tweeted, It wasn't an accident.

00:44:57.000 Policing in our country is inherently and intentionally racist.

00:45:00.000 Daunte Wright was met with aggression and violence.

00:45:03.000 I am done with those who condone government-funded murder.

00:45:06.000 No more policing, incarceration, and militarization.

00:45:09.000 It can't be reformed.

00:45:11.000 Okay, let's take two seconds here. 0.81

00:45:15.000 First, it was initially reported that this guy, Dante Wright, was wanted on a misdemeanor gun charge.

00:45:22.000 And apparently he got stopped, they found out he had a gun, he fled.

00:45:25.000 Now when I heard that, I was like, sounds to me like his only crime was the non-crime of enjoying his Second Amendment rights.

00:45:32.000 If that's the case, then this is absolutely wrong.

00:45:34.000 However, even if it was, in my opinion, an unjustified and unconstitutional act, you don't resist the police.

00:45:42.000 When they come to arrest you, you have the privilege of a trial to defend yourself and actually fight for others in the process, because the precedent set by your cases could help others in the future.

00:45:52.000 Instead, he fought with the cops, he dove into the car, they knew he was on a weapons charge, he had a Ruger .45, he ended up getting shot and killed, and it's a tragic story.

00:45:59.000 I wish it didn't happen, but come on.

00:46:01.000 The cops need to be able to make arrests.

00:46:03.000 The cops don't know who this guy is or what his story is.

00:46:05.000 They don't know if he's a good guy or a bad guy.

00:46:07.000 All they know is, we got a warrant.

00:46:08.000 But now it turns out, it was an aggravated robbery charge.

00:46:12.000 So this warrant was actually like, this guy strangled a woman and demanded $800 from her at gunpoint.

00:46:18.000 Okay, hold on a minute.

00:46:19.000 It's a little different.

00:46:20.000 Yeah, he probably should be arrested for that.

00:46:22.000 And he resisted and tried running away.

00:46:24.000 We have the story actually from the New York Post.

00:46:27.000 They say, Dante Wright had an open warrant related to an armed robbery against him when he was shot dead Sunday.

00:46:33.000 Wright, 20, and another man had been charged with first-degree attempted aggravated robbery in December 2019 for allegedly trying to steal $820 from a woman at gunpoint, according to Henneman County District Court documents.

00:46:45.000 The pair had crashed at the victim's home, crashed at the victim's home in the city of Osseo after attending a party there, then demanded money the next morning while flashing a gun, authorities said in court papers.

00:46:55.000 Give me the effing money, I'm not playing around, Wright told the woman, according to prosecutors.

00:46:59.000 The victim refused and began screaming for both men to leave, records show.

00:47:04.000 Give me the money and we will leave.

00:47:05.000 Wright allegedly told her, give me the money and we will go.

00:47:08.000 The two men eventually left the home without any dough, according to documents.

00:47:11.000 Wright was later arrested in the case and released on a $100,000 bail, but he violated his bail conditions in July when he failed to stay in touch with his court monitor, the paper said.

00:47:19.000 According to the Daily Mail, he was also in possession of a gun at some point after his arrest for the robbery, which was also in violation of the condition of his bail release.

00:47:27.000 So apparently that case was actually derivative of the fact that he tried shaking someone, he tried an armed robbery.

00:47:33.000 Now, Rashida Tlaib.

00:47:36.000 You gotta think about what she's saying now in this context.

00:47:39.000 The sheer absurdity of this.

00:47:41.000 It wasn't an accident.

00:47:43.000 It clearly wasn't an accident.

00:47:44.000 I tweeted the cop should go to jail because two things.

00:47:48.000 You're responsible for what comes out of your gun.

00:47:50.000 This was a negligent shooting.

00:47:52.000 It wasn't an accident.

00:47:53.000 She was reaching for a weapon. 0.85

00:47:54.000 She was intending to cause harm.

00:47:56.000 She wasn't intending to kill him.

00:47:57.000 Not murder, but negligence.

00:47:59.000 Also, these police in the area need to... How do they not realize the ramifications, the political consequences of what they're doing, defending what's going on right now?

00:48:08.000 If they genuinely believe Chauvin was just doing his job, and these cops are being unjustly prosecuted, morale is low, shouldn't they stand up for themselves?

00:48:16.000 So I have very little empathy, if any, for people who are like, I know they're gonna throw someone under the bus, but I'm gonna say nothing, and then I'll be fine.

00:48:24.000 Even after saying that, I still recognize the shooting was not intentional.

00:48:28.000 I still recognize this guy broke the law and was resisting.

00:48:30.000 I still recognize the altercation could have been avoided.

00:48:32.000 It was the actions of the individual being pulled over.

00:48:34.000 Cops got to do their job.

00:48:36.000 And Rashid Tlaib is saying, no more policing.

00:48:40.000 Okay.

00:48:41.000 No more policing!

00:48:42.000 Right.

00:48:43.000 And, you know, I think as well that the circumstances that you identify there certainly will be used at the trial, right?

00:48:50.000 If charges, if they try and upcharge beyond negligent manslaughter, right?

00:48:55.000 Because that speaks to the circumstances that police officers face them in, right?

00:48:58.000 When the dispatcher says, go to this school, it's going to be, you know, proceed with caution, armed, dangerous.

00:49:04.000 There's, you know, reasonable suspicion to believe that, which is a probable cause in this case, that this person's capable of violence.

00:49:13.000 And the officer would say, okay, I have fear, that's why I didn't think properly.

00:49:17.000 But I do think the broader point in terms of the political discourse, you know, as you suggest, has been heavily weighted.

00:49:23.000 I just, I guess I'm more, I do think there is, again, this sort of silent majority, yes, needs to be more visible, both at a political level and at a populist level.

00:49:34.000 But again, it's the silent Trump voter again, right?

00:49:37.000 Most people think this is totally profanity of choice.

00:49:42.000 It is interesting, though, that we don't hold Rashida Tlaib in the same kind of disdain that we would if, you know, some of the things that President Trump has tweeted, for example.

00:49:59.000 You know, this is really This is kind of UFO, you know, out of space stuff, except UFOs are actually serious.

00:50:07.000 You know, I will say in terms of, you know, saying the cop should be arrested, my bigger issue that infuriates me with everything is that there are people Who will privately say to you, I'm so upset with what's going on.

00:50:21.000 And then you're like, all right, will you stand up with me?

00:50:24.000 Oh no, no, heavens no, I won't take any risk.

00:50:28.000 It's like, you know, I've always, uh, I've always respected the idea that, you know, back in the day in these wars, the leader would be on a horse and you would charge in with his men and lead them into battle.

00:50:39.000 Now you've got people who are like, yes, look at all these problems.

00:50:41.000 Oh, I'm not going to say anything.

00:50:43.000 I don't want to get canceled.

00:50:45.000 You do it for me.

00:50:46.000 So when I see these cops sitting back while other cops are being demonized and villainized, thinking like, meh, what do I care?

00:50:53.000 I won't speak up.

00:50:54.000 I won't stand up.

00:50:55.000 I won't resign.

00:50:56.000 I won't protest this.

00:50:58.000 I'm like, okay, if you won't defend others who have been put in these positions, I'm not going to defend you.

00:51:04.000 I think this lady should go to prison. 1.00

00:51:06.000 I think she should, I hope the system comes for her for all it's worth.

00:51:10.000 Chauvin, as we're now learning, it's not so clear-cut exactly what happened and why Floyd lost his life.

00:51:18.000 And they're trying to charge him with second-degree murder.

00:51:20.000 Now, manslaughter might make sense. 0.86

00:51:22.000 There's an argument for there.

00:51:23.000 In fact, the state may have actually convinced the jury of that.

00:51:25.000 We'll see what happens.

00:51:26.000 The defense is arguing tomorrow and Thursday, and then I think they're off Friday, and then deliberations begin.

00:51:32.000 But murder two and three are insane.

00:51:34.000 The fact the system charged him with this in the first place was nuts.

00:51:37.000 He's probably gonna get quitted on that charge.

00:51:38.000 There's probably gonna be riots.

00:51:40.000 Keith Ellison, right?

00:51:42.000 Right.

00:51:42.000 Hyper political.

00:51:43.000 Exactly.

00:51:44.000 Looking for his own future aspirations at the expense of the law.

00:51:47.000 But what bothers me is that there were a lot of good cops who walked when this went down and they said, if you're going to play this game, I won't be a part of it.

00:51:57.000 And I applaud those cops because those are the good cops.

00:51:59.000 Some of them are probably actually bad people, but they're willing to stand up at least for themselves.

00:52:04.000 Now this cop just seems like another one of these people who thinks that as the world is burning down around them, they can say nothing and do nothing and they'll be fine.

00:52:11.000 It won't come for them.

00:52:12.000 I talk about this all the time with like the wokeness, the critical race theory stuff, where people are like, I know it's bad, but as long as I keep my head down, I'll be fine.

00:52:20.000 And no, you won't.

00:52:22.000 If this really is as bad as people think it is, eventually it will come for you and there's no escaping it.

00:52:26.000 Your best chance now is to speak up, otherwise there will be no one left to speak up for you.

00:52:30.000 Now she's been involved in this, the political system is dominated by these activists, the city manager got fired for calling for due process, and I'm just like...

00:52:39.000 Well, I mean, you knew this was gonna happen.

00:52:41.000 You knew it's what they called for last year.

00:52:43.000 You knew they literally voted to abolish the police one town over, 10 miles from you.

00:52:47.000 Why should I have sympathy for this?

00:52:50.000 A lot of people I know, a lot of good people I've talked to in the Minnesota and Minneapolis area, have straight up said, yeah, we're moving, we're leaving.

00:52:57.000 We won't be a part of this.

00:52:58.000 We won't let our tax dollars fund this.

00:53:00.000 And then a bunch of people just shrugged it off and said, oh, whatever.

00:53:04.000 Okay, well, now you get to be Chauvin.

00:53:05.000 But I do think that, you know, again, this stuff does hit a... I agree with you in the broad need to identify, to call out that, you know, the cancel culture, you know, the fake wokery, whatever. 0.99

00:53:18.000 But at the point of paying taxes, as you suggest, I think a lot of people are like, enough!

00:53:23.000 Because especially on these policing matters, it's not simply the matter of taxes.

00:53:28.000 It's taxes for, you know, an exigent interest, right?

00:53:31.000 Protection of self and family.

00:53:33.000 And when you combine those two factors, you know, I do think we will... I mean, this is just going to be a developing trend.

00:53:39.000 It's also, I think, at the political level, ultimately why the Rashida Tlaib crowd is going to lose.

00:53:46.000 Ultimate, ultimate, ultimate.

00:53:47.000 Yeah, sure.

00:53:47.000 I mean, look, President Trump really nearly won, right?

00:53:51.000 I do agree with you, I do.

00:53:52.000 That they'll end up losing.

00:53:55.000 The problem is, it's not going to happen until there's widespread violence and destruction on a scale that we will regret.

00:54:02.000 I'm sure many people are upset about what happened last year with the George Floyd riots.

00:54:07.000 Regret is a hard word to use because it caught everyone off guard and now we're looking back at it like, okay, how do we stop this?

00:54:13.000 Anger, you know, for the people who were rioted and looted.

00:54:16.000 Now we have an option.

00:54:17.000 We have a chance.

00:54:18.000 Are we going to stand up and do something before it's too late?

00:54:21.000 Apparently the answer is no.

00:54:22.000 Obviously, you know, we'll talk about this.

00:54:24.000 People who are watching the show understand what's going on.

00:54:26.000 But too many regular people have been ignoring this.

00:54:28.000 The cops in Brooklyn Center thought they would be allowed to get past the lunatic woke outrage mob. 0.98

00:54:35.000 They thought they would be safe.

00:54:37.000 Are you kidding me? 0.81

00:54:38.000 Your fellow officers are going down in flames and being sacrificed at the woke altar.

00:54:42.000 And you did nothing.

00:54:43.000 You said nothing.

00:54:44.000 You said, I'll be fine.

00:54:45.000 Well, now you're not fine.

00:54:47.000 So these cops have a chance.

00:54:50.000 If they all resign today, By tomorrow, the police would be totally funded, they'd have better training, much of these problems would be solved, they'd be better equipped, they'd be safer.

00:55:00.000 The problem isn't that police have too much funding, it's that they have too little funding.

00:55:05.000 We are asking people, and these activists don't remember this, these cops are human beings, to go into situations where people want to kill them.

00:55:12.000 We've seen the videos.

00:55:13.000 They're scary videos, where someone reaches into their car.

00:55:15.000 We saw the guy in Wisconsin, in Kenosha.

00:55:18.000 When he was going to his car, he grabbed the knife.

00:55:21.000 And the cop shot him.

00:55:22.000 And then they riot in that city.

00:55:23.000 Apparently that cop is back on duty, actually, because I don't think he did anything wrong.

00:55:26.000 Like, someone grabbed the knife.

00:55:27.000 This guy had assaulted a woman.

00:55:29.000 These people don't realize this about these cops, that they're not vicious and depraved murderers, and many of these people are psychologically damaged after being involved in these shootings.

00:55:37.000 I mean, this woman, I really do believe she accidentally shot this guy, Dante. 0.91

00:55:41.000 She went, holy S, I just shot him.

00:55:43.000 I don't think she meant to do that.

00:55:44.000 I'm sure she's been crying nonstop, like, mentally just fractured because of this.

00:55:48.000 So, with respect, I'm not trying to be mean.

00:55:51.000 If the police right now said to the people, we have been dealing with riots non-stop for a year, we have begged for your support, and instead all we have gotten was defunded, insulted, demoralized, abolished, and scapegoated, I think the moral way to do it, though, would be to give, you know, a period of notice.

00:56:11.000 30 days.

00:56:12.000 Because then you can balance.

00:56:14.000 That's actually much better.

00:56:15.000 Because then at least, you know, when you do it, say, hey, this is now the political responsibility, right?

00:56:21.000 The crimes that happen in that window of absent policing.

00:56:25.000 But, you know, I also think as well the delusion, right, that anyone who says like Rashida Tlaib, you know, policing, get rid of it, incarceration, doesn't work, great, you know, these are not people who have been exposed to criminality, right?

00:56:38.000 Police officers, you know, anyone who knows anyone who's been to prison, I think would come out and say there are a lot of people in there who had really a bad start to life.

00:56:49.000 Could they have been diverted?

00:56:51.000 There are also a lot of people who are really not nice people.

00:56:54.000 And when we're talking not nice, we're like, you know, really not nice.

00:56:59.000 And so police officers are dealing with that every day.

00:57:01.000 One of the things I found interesting is, in some ways, British humour is very similar to American police humour.

00:57:09.000 It's very dark.

00:57:10.000 And I think part of the translation, and British humour doesn't sometimes translate in the United States, and I think part of the reason police officers, or a big reason, is that, you know, you're just dealing every day with tragic circumstances, you're doing a lot of good, but you're also dealing with really unpleasant people.

00:57:26.000 And that takes a toll.

00:57:27.000 Did you hear about the cash bail thing in New York, where they want to get rid of it?

00:57:32.000 Or they got rid of it, I'm sorry.

00:57:34.000 I actually didn't, no.

00:57:36.000 So earlier in the year, like last year, there was this bill where they said basically if you're arrested for a certain non-violent crime... Oh, misdemeanor at the level.

00:57:43.000 Yeah, you will be... Order released.

00:57:46.000 Right, so no bail.

00:57:48.000 Here's the challenge, man.

00:57:48.000 I don't like the idea of charging people money to get out of jail.

00:57:51.000 Right.

00:57:52.000 Because innocent until proven guilty.

00:57:53.000 It's better that the guilty escape than, you know, innocent suffer, all that stuff, Blackstone's formulation.

00:57:57.000 But there was apparently one guy Who got arrested several times and kept getting released.

00:58:02.000 And apparently in a quote, he was laughing.

00:58:04.000 He was like, y'all caught me doing it and let me go.

00:58:06.000 Right.

00:58:07.000 It's like we have to, it's the constitution, but some people are bad people and we know it.

00:58:13.000 Right.

00:58:14.000 And it's tough to deal with these people while maintaining constitutional rights.

00:58:18.000 There is an interesting issue here as well.

00:58:22.000 One of the controversies for some is that judges are elected here at a local level.

00:58:28.000 And I do think there can be a cost to that.

00:58:31.000 The reflex can be more punitive sometimes for certain crimes.

00:58:34.000 But the benefit is that you can avoid a situation, for example, that exists in much of Europe, certainly in Britain.

00:58:43.000 Where the cops are arresting people and they've got a rap sheet that is just pages and pages long and the judges are still sort of, you know, 90-day community service sentence.

00:58:54.000 And how that, not simply the immorality of that in a democratic society, but also how that corrodes the public trust, which the public ultimately in a democracy must be the guardians, right, or must be the masters.

00:59:08.000 Exactly.

00:59:09.000 The system is supposed to work because of judges.

00:59:11.000 Judiciary is separate to the political branch, but there's no input, right?

00:59:18.000 They just simply see, and people eventually, just like, they lose faith.

00:59:22.000 This is, the system is supposed to work because of judges.

00:59:26.000 Because a judge can look at a person and say, you committed, you're accused of this crime, what say you?

00:59:33.000 And the person says, your honor, I beg of you, I have to work my job and be with my kids, I will be in court.

00:59:38.000 And the judge can be like, okay, let's set some conditions that aren't cash, because you can't afford it, where we can ensure you will come to work.

00:59:46.000 How about house arrest, but with a provision for you to go to work?

00:59:50.000 Instead, I've seen these videos where the judge is like, Your bail is set at $1,000, Your Honor.

00:59:55.000 I watched this video.

00:59:56.000 It was maddening.

00:59:57.000 The guy's like, Your Honor, please, please, I have to be with my family.

01:00:01.000 I have to work my job.

01:00:02.000 I'll lose my job if I'm in jail.

01:00:03.000 And he goes, I said $1,000.

01:00:04.000 Bang.

01:00:05.000 And I'm like, that to me doesn't work.

01:00:08.000 Because, now maybe in this instance, the guy actually was a bad dude who was just trying to pull a fast one.

01:00:12.000 But then you have the inverse where you just mentioned, in New York, it's like, Your Honor, we arrested this guy.

01:00:17.000 Alright, I understand the cashless bail thing, but like, here's his rap sheet.

01:00:21.000 He's been convicted of seven crimes in the past.

01:00:23.000 Can we at least hold this guy?

01:00:25.000 No!

01:00:26.000 Free to go!

01:00:27.000 The judge is supposed to be interpreting this better, and I feel like too often we don't get it.

01:00:31.000 But maybe it's because there's no real simple answer.

01:00:34.000 Maybe we're going to learn about the harsh cases and the lax cases.

01:00:37.000 Maybe the reality is, you know, there's good judges in the middle who find that middle ground.

01:00:41.000 And in all this, right, the same thing in San Francisco, right, that they were not arresting, you know, certain things would be treated misdemeanor, stealing from a car, you know, non-violent.

01:00:49.000 From a store.

01:00:50.000 Right, right, right.

01:00:52.000 And actually that's a much better example.

01:00:54.000 You look at, you know, the kind of woke element, the left, right, and it's easy, it's much easier to become part of the woke crowd and wave than it is to be like, you know, kind of Larry David out of Curb Your Enthusiasm and be like, You know, like, it's okay for them, right?

01:01:09.000 Because they can go to the apartment building that has a concierge and an underground garage.

01:01:13.000 But that small business owner or that, you know, person who doesn't have, you know, has to park their car on the street, that working class, lower income person, they're the ones who are suffering the most here.

01:01:24.000 It's not the people who are pushing this the most.

01:01:26.000 But again, I just think there is a political opportunity here that we have to believe we'll be taken advantage of.

01:01:33.000 Well, I'll tell you who is benefiting the most. 0.87

01:01:36.000 For one, it's these woke, absurd politicians who give us mindless platitudes and ridiculous statements of, no more police! 0.93

01:01:44.000 That'll solve the problem. 0.95

01:01:45.000 Rashida Tlaib, I agree.

01:01:46.000 Let's get rid of all the police right now.

01:01:48.000 How about we do this?

01:01:49.000 I think your idea was better.

01:01:50.000 Give notice.

01:01:51.000 Let's have every cop in the country say, all right, in 30 days, we won't be working.

01:01:56.000 You know why?

01:01:56.000 They're giving a heads up to the criminals as well as the regular citizens.

01:02:00.000 They may as well announce the purge is going to be a real thing.

01:02:03.000 Because all the criminals are gonna be like, ooh, 30 days, it's on, baby.

01:02:07.000 But I'll tell you who else is making money.

01:02:09.000 These activists who claim to fight for this stuff, they are cashing out.

01:02:12.000 I think a lot of people have seen this story already.

01:02:15.000 This Black Lives Matter leader apparently bought a massive mansion and a bunch of other moderately priced, well, actually, they're fairly expensive homes. 0.74

01:02:25.000 So this Black Lives Matter lady, I guess she has what, like three homes that are like 400 to 500K? 1.00

01:02:28.000 And then one that's 1.4 million?

01:02:32.000 That's really good for a Marxist.

01:02:34.000 Multiple properties, kind of like socialist Bernie Sanders.

01:02:37.000 He's got, what, three homes?

01:02:39.000 Good for him.

01:02:40.000 I'm glad they've been able to successfully capitalize on socialism.

01:02:43.000 So we have this story from the post-millennial.

01:02:45.000 Black Lives Matter, I guess activist, says story about co-founders... Oh, Black Lives Matter says this.

01:02:51.000 Yeah.

01:02:51.000 Story about co-founders' new multi-million dollar home are fueled by white supremacy.

01:02:57.000 I feel so stupid. 0.99

01:02:58.000 That explains everything! 0.97

01:03:00.000 Marxists are allowed to have multiple properties.

01:03:03.000 One that's 1.4 million dollars.

01:03:05.000 They're allowed to.

01:03:06.000 That's normal for Marxists.

01:03:08.000 Landlords and property owners and you know.

01:03:11.000 But it is in the kind of finest Soviet tradition.

01:03:16.000 You have your dashers and you have your dackers actually and you have your kind of access to the you know the superhighway lane and There's nothing new to I mean, it's so obvious for what it is.

01:03:29.000 What I think what is I mean that there you have right a great example of just the absurdity of the kind of work thing that that that that is white supremacist that everything is white supremacist.

01:03:40.000 And it does.

01:03:42.000 It is.

01:03:43.000 I mean, literally, we are now living in a, you know, curb your enthusiasm sketch.

01:03:48.000 And, and, and, you know, I actually saw it.

01:03:51.000 It was a few years ago, actually, with Larry David, he was saying, Oh, you know, we do have a lot of conservative viewers watch the show.

01:03:56.000 And he's like, it's kind of interesting. 0.88

01:03:58.000 It's like, yeah, well, because reality is becoming that show, you know, that it's that ridiculous.

01:04:03.000 I mean, it is interesting, though, that you don't see that many people on the kind of, I guess, like Bill Maher does talk about this a bit, you know, the absurdity of it.

01:04:13.000 But it's kind of funny how the crowd nervously laughs and the guests, what's more interesting, how these high profile guests feel more of an impulse to be like, well, Bill, you know, Do you see that lady?

01:04:25.000 Who was that lady? 1.00

01:04:25.000 She called Gina Carano a white supremacist or a nazi? 1.00

01:04:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:28.000 Former senator.

01:04:29.000 Yeah, whoever she was.

01:04:30.000 She was like, well, you know.

01:04:31.000 She's Heidi Heitkamp, right?

01:04:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:33.000 North Dakota.

01:04:34.000 And Bill Maher barely pushed back at all.

01:04:37.000 Like, you know, if someone said that here, I'd be like, that's not true.

01:04:40.000 You're lying.

01:04:41.000 Like, we're not playing that game.

01:04:42.000 That's not true.

01:04:43.000 And it's funny because I say this about Enrique Tarrio, the chairman of the Proud Boys, literally a black dude. 0.86

01:04:49.000 And they're like, he's a white supremacist.

01:04:50.000 I'm like, no, he's not. 0.99

01:04:51.000 No, he's literally black.

01:04:52.000 And Proud Boys have multiracial.

01:04:54.000 You can criticize the Proud Boys for a lot of things.

01:04:56.000 Just criticize them for the things that are true.

01:04:58.000 Instead, they lie.

01:04:59.000 And I'm not going to play that game.

01:05:02.000 Bill Maher should have come out and been much more harsh to this woman.

01:05:07.000 He's like, she's not. 0.53

01:05:08.000 Is she really?

01:05:09.000 And then he goes, well, you know, definitions change.

01:05:12.000 Is that it?

01:05:13.000 I also think part of the interesting thing here is, you know, it's like, you know, this person's a Nazi, whatever.

01:05:17.000 And I find, you know, my British grandfather, my American grandfather was Pacific Marine, still around, 96, which is great.

01:05:24.000 And my British grandfather was a RAF bomber command pilot.

01:05:27.000 And so there's a lot of debate, morally right, bombing German cities.

01:05:30.000 But, you know, you study the Nazis.

01:05:33.000 I studied a lot about, amateur hour, but read a lot about them.

01:05:37.000 It is kind of amusing with the American, like, woke left talking Nazi white supremacy, because they really haven't read, how many of them have read Mein Kampf?

01:05:45.000 How many of them have engaged seriously with the literature to understand?

01:05:49.000 Because it is a profoundly unpleasant ideology, but simplifying it is not a good idea.

01:05:54.000 Well, hold on.

01:05:55.000 I think many of them are, in fact, familiar with it, because, as we know, James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, and Peter Boghossian altered a portion of Minecraft into feminist ideology instead, and it got published in a scientific journal.

01:06:07.000 So, they've certainly read some of the... I think, to be fair, there's some heavy criticism of that, but the general idea was the intention and the targeting of groups was what they poured it over.

01:06:18.000 And then someone accused them, like, all they did was use the non-proper nouns because the proper nouns were changed.

01:06:23.000 And I'm like, that's kind of the point.

01:06:25.000 Yeah.

01:06:25.000 Like when he's like, this group is evil and we're the best and here's our plan.

01:06:29.000 And you just change the name of the group.

01:06:30.000 That's kind of the point.

01:06:31.000 Yeah.

01:06:32.000 So these people that look, they're all about power.

01:06:35.000 You know, the Black Lives Matter organization is basically saying we don't pay her.

01:06:39.000 She's not getting paid by us. 0.99

01:06:40.000 It's fake news.

01:06:42.000 That's not the news.

01:06:43.000 The news is that a prominent Black Lives Matter activist owns multiple homes and a very expensive one.

01:06:48.000 It's not, I guess maybe some people infer or assume that she's making money from Black Lives Matter.

01:06:54.000 I didn't assume that. 0.91

01:06:55.000 I just thought these people were hypocrites claiming to fight for the common people when actually they're just rich people because I've seen it time and time again. 0.99

01:07:00.000 Al Sharpton is the most ludicrous personality. 0.96

01:07:05.000 I mean it's quite astonishing actually that you know you saw a few years ago that he needs his first class seat to go to speaking gigs and he always turns up and then he disappears. 0.93

01:07:14.000 I think Michael Brown's family were talking about this how they felt they'd been and and it is just I mean the cost of it is just quite quite astonishing right that they have we actually had an incident where I live in Washington and I don't want to be too specific because it'll seem like I'm using it for my own but but a 19 year old black guy was shot and killed and no one

01:07:37.000 The reaction of people on the street who were very much, you know, defund the police signs on that night was, you know, they weren't terribly interested as he was calling for help.

01:07:49.000 And there's more to it than that, but there is a lot of, again, enter profanity of choice that is really not just pathetic, but pretty outrageous in the sense that these are people, you know, people dying, right?

01:08:02.000 And we should want solutions that mitigate that.

01:08:05.000 You know what I've been kind of pissed off about?

01:08:07.000 I hear this a lot from a lot of conservatives.

01:08:09.000 They'll say, you know, the Black Lives Matter people don't seem to care about, you know, inner-city youth or what's going on in Chicago and Chi-Rac, right?

01:08:16.000 How come they don't protest and demand justice for the black lives in Chicago who are victims of this crime all the time?

01:08:23.000 I hear that a lot.

01:08:24.000 Now, I've met some people who do focus on that, and they're smaller community activists, but definitely the high-profile grifters make their quick buck off pushing this institutional racism narrative.

01:08:33.000 I got a similar complaint, though.

01:08:35.000 Where are the gun rights advocacy groups and conservatives going into the same neighborhoods and providing legal defense for the young black men whose only crime was possession of a firearm, which the Second Amendment says you're allowed to do?

01:08:47.000 No, it's a hugely good point.

01:08:48.000 You know, when Well, I'll just leave it at that, without, you know, getting into rehashing a bunch of old stories.

01:08:55.000 I would say, I don't know if he's been on the show, if not, I mean, obviously you pick your own guess, but show Michael Singleton, you know, a friend of mine, does a, you know, a black gun owner, does a TV show about it, engaged in, you know, some of this stuff, but...

01:09:09.000 You know, actually, that's a very good point.

01:09:12.000 The judicial, at the level of the big, well-funded, conservative legal defense, these things representing religious issues, right?

01:09:18.000 A life that doesn't, you know, you're right.

01:09:21.000 That's a big gap.

01:09:23.000 There are a lot of, particularly young black men, but even outside of that, there's a lot of people in this country who get charged with illegal possession of a firearm, and that's it.

01:09:32.000 Now, if they're committing a crime with the gun, okay, fine, I get it.

01:09:36.000 You commit a crime, you commit a crime.

01:09:38.000 Um, I mean like if they're robbing somebody, if they're carjacking or doing something like that, or using the gun in the process of a crime.

01:09:43.000 If someone literally is like, I would like to bear arms, you know, the constitution says shall not be infringed.

01:09:48.000 I would like to see, you know, the NRA, I'm not a big fan of the NRA, but I, so I don't think they would do anything, but I'd like to see more gun, gun rights groups actually be like, we're going to go to Washington DC.

01:09:57.000 We're going to go to Chicago.

01:09:58.000 We're going to go to LA.

01:09:59.000 We're going to go to Compton.

01:10:00.000 We're going to talk to these, we're going to find these young men.

01:10:02.000 And we're going to look at that charge sheet where it says illegal possession of a firearm, and we're going to be like, no, we're going to give you the legal defense because this is not right.

01:10:08.000 Second Amendment is clear.

01:10:10.000 These guys didn't do anything wrong.

01:10:11.000 It's similar to how I think the left overlooks violent crime in these neighborhoods as well.

01:10:16.000 It's not going to play well.

01:10:17.000 I mean, we got a viral video that's been going around for a while of a woman holding her baby, getting shot and killed, and then lying on top of her baby to protect her from these drive-by shooters.

01:10:24.000 And a lot of conservatives are like, where's Black Lives Matter?

01:10:27.000 Where's the left complaining about this?

01:10:28.000 And I'm like, it's a good point.

01:10:30.000 You know, they scream when there's a cop and an accident occurs, or a tragedy, or in this instance, negligence.

01:10:38.000 But they're not screaming when, you know, things go bad in Chicago.

01:10:43.000 They're not screaming about the gang violence.

01:10:44.000 It's just the cops.

01:10:45.000 Now I get it.

01:10:46.000 There's a fair point, too.

01:10:48.000 Cops are in positions of authority.

01:10:50.000 Right.

01:10:50.000 So I understand that.

01:10:51.000 And then there's an argument for the conservatives.

01:10:52.000 It's like, some of these guys who have these guns are actually in gangs, and they have guns for not good reasons.

01:10:58.000 But at the same time, I'm like, honestly, man, I think we need to have some principle on the matter.

01:11:03.000 If we're for black lives, we're for the gang members as well.

01:11:06.000 And if we're for gun ownership, we're for gang members as well.

01:11:09.000 One of the things that I'm surprised, and you know there may be, well actually I don't think there is a good reason for it, but why we haven't seen more prosecutions, the FBI, ATF using RICO statutes, so racketeering, in the same way that they do against Russian organized crime, Eastern European groups, you know, MS-13, whatever.

01:11:31.000 Where actually if you can build up your evidentiary picture you could have a pretty significant Judicial effect.

01:11:37.000 I think part of the reason is that the You know that some of the gangs terms, you know again, you know that young black men tend to be a part of there's less You know, the the economic impact on society is lower as a term in terms of criminal finances and so the incentive for the FBI's to go after higher value things But at the moral level and the life level, you know, you would think that would be something perhaps everyone could get behind. 0.65

01:12:05.000 Of course, I'm sure I'm totally delusional about that.

01:12:08.000 But, you know, being creative here, right, is surely something we need to do more of.

01:12:19.000 I think I got a good, you know, overlapping nonprofit idea that I'm gonna see if I can, you know, get set up and I'm, you know, so I've been talking to a few people about this and it's quite literally to find young men who are charged with possession of a firearm and that's it.

01:12:36.000 And then, so I think Chicago is a good target for this because I think it'll be, maybe this could be a position where, you know, a lot of the Black Lives Matter people, not, who are not too democratic establishment, where they're just anti-gun for no reason. 0.62

01:12:48.000 But a lot of these actual leftist personalities who believe in Black Lives Matter, I'll be like, how about we get these guys out of jail and help them get their lives fixed because they didn't do anything wrong.

01:12:56.000 They're abiding, they're enjoying their second amendment rights.

01:12:58.000 And then I think a lot of the gun owners, libertarians, and even some conservatives might be like, all right, we agree with that as well.

01:13:02.000 So I'm like, maybe that's a, that's a good thing where we can be like, Hey, we're going to do this thing.

01:13:05.000 Don't yell at us.

01:13:06.000 Cause we're trying to help and, you know, make, make lives better for everybody.

01:13:10.000 And I bet in a lot of those cases, right, it's going to be, well, we know, it's that person carrying that gun because they're in a very high crime neighborhood and they don't want to get robbed.

01:13:19.000 It is basic level Second Amendment stuff, right?

01:13:22.000 I mean, yeah, it's like very rudimentary.

01:13:24.000 Just self-defense.

01:13:25.000 I want to protect myself.

01:13:26.000 And that's true for a lot of these guys.

01:13:28.000 I'm from Chicago.

01:13:29.000 I see guys who are like, I'll be damned if I'm going to be a victim to these people, these gangs.

01:13:32.000 I don't have anything to do with it, but they want to defend themselves.

01:13:35.000 I will say, it'd be really funny If we start, you know, we find people withstanding.

01:13:39.000 You get a young black man, he's got, you know, a 1911 or something, 45, and he gets arrested and charged for it.

01:13:45.000 That's the only crime!

01:13:46.000 The cops stop him, you're under arrest, felony gun possession.

01:13:50.000 We come in, we say, we're gonna sue, and then it starts making its way up the courts.

01:13:54.000 What are the Democrats gonna do?

01:13:55.000 What's their argument gonna be?

01:13:57.000 We're actually defending the rights of minorities and gunners at the same time.

01:14:01.000 Are they gonna come in and say that that black man should be in jail?

01:14:03.000 Oh, I'd love to see him do that. 0.99

01:14:05.000 No, I think that black man should not be in jail. 0.70

01:14:06.000 I think he has a right to defend himself the same as everybody else. 0.98

01:14:09.000 I heard the Black Panthers were out in Minnesota on Sunday morning, and they were armed to the teeth, and I say, good. 1.00

01:14:14.000 Yeah, right.

01:14:14.000 They're allowed to do it.

01:14:15.000 Absolutely.

01:14:16.000 Good American citizens.

01:14:16.000 And nothing happened.

01:14:17.000 And nothing happened.

01:14:18.000 Well, not from them.

01:14:19.000 Right.

01:14:19.000 Other people went out later and started trashing stuff.

01:14:21.000 It wasn't the Panthers.

01:14:22.000 Right.

01:14:22.000 They have a constitutional right to protect themselves and to bear arms, and I think they're good American citizens doing so.

01:14:27.000 Right.

01:14:28.000 Absolutely.

01:14:28.000 Totally agree.

01:14:29.000 I'd like to see it happen.

01:14:30.000 We'll see where we can go with that.

01:14:32.000 Yeah, and again, it's so instrumental, right?

01:14:36.000 We talk about riots, right?

01:14:39.000 In 2011, at least in riots, you know, as a gunner, you can have a gun in your home and you could at least have relative confidence, relative, that you might be able to protect your family.

01:14:49.000 You know, in 2011 in London, there were riots over three days and the police were totally overwhelmed.

01:14:54.000 There was no, you know, if you think about sort of older people, people with health issues, it was anarchy for them. 1.00

01:15:02.000 People come into their homes, you know, take stuff, do whatever, and all that, their only recourse were the cops.

01:15:09.000 And more than that, the people doing it knew that, right?

01:15:12.000 Here, at least, there is a moment of pause, you would hope.

01:15:15.000 Some people, obviously, there isn't, but, you know, you're going to walk in and, you know, good night.

01:15:20.000 I'll tell you this, you know, out in the middle of nowhere and a little bit further west of where we are, you see no trespassing sign?

01:15:28.000 Yeah, don't come in.

01:15:29.000 Yeah, you definitely gonna obey that no trespassing sign.

01:15:32.000 So like, I've been out, you know, I was thinking about this, I was driving through West Virginia and I look at all these houses and I'm like, You know?

01:15:41.000 If you even thought of robbing this house, you're gonna die. 0.95

01:15:46.000 Right. 0.98

01:15:47.000 Like, don't commit crimes.

01:15:48.000 And so, I mean, people are reasonable.

01:15:50.000 They're not just gonna randomly shoot a person they see on the property, but they're gonna warn you and they're gonna be armed to the teeth.

01:15:53.000 Most of the people who live out here, they're armed because cops are few and far between.

01:15:56.000 Right.

01:15:57.000 So, you know, it's interesting to me.

01:16:00.000 Like I was mentioning earlier, the cost for the activist of getting caught rioting is almost nothing.

01:16:06.000 Their life will not be harmed in any way.

01:16:08.000 And it's really fascinating because destroying property, burning things down, and literally causing harm to people are very serious crimes.

01:16:15.000 Yet, going back to this, I hear these stories of, you know, a 28-year-old dad in Chicago who's scared of gang violence, so he gets an illegal gun.

01:16:24.000 It's not literally illegal according to the Constitution, but the state says it is.

01:16:28.000 And that's his crime.

01:16:29.000 He gets to go to prison.

01:16:29.000 He gets to get locked up and have his life ruined because he wants to protect himself from gang violence in a city, a city that the police can't control.

01:16:37.000 That, to me, is insane.

01:16:38.000 Then you have these rioters who go out and destroy everything.

01:16:41.000 Nothing happens to them.

01:16:42.000 It is interesting as well, if we think about the left's view on voter ID laws, right, that it's prohibitive in terms of cost.

01:16:48.000 It disproportionately affects minority communities.

01:16:51.000 And yet the same principle is not applied to, well, to buy a gun license to go through all that.

01:16:56.000 Well, no, that's okay.

01:16:57.000 That's something completely different.

01:16:59.000 It is kind of interesting.

01:17:00.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

01:17:00.000 Voter ID is racist because it disenfranchises minorities.

01:17:06.000 What about when minorities want to go buy a gun? 0.93

01:17:08.000 Right.

01:17:08.000 Is gun ideas racist?

01:17:09.000 Right.

01:17:10.000 That's a funny thing, too, about this voting stuff, when I think it was like David Hogg who said, buying a gun shouldn't be easier than voting.

01:17:16.000 And I was like, are you suggesting that guns should be mailed to everyone's home when they don't ask for it?

01:17:20.000 Right.

01:17:20.000 Because mail-in ballots got mailed out to everybody, even if you asked for it or not.

01:17:24.000 Could you imagine if you're like, you turn 18 and they mail you an AR-15?

01:17:26.000 Right.

01:17:27.000 I mean, that'd be awesome!

01:17:28.000 Yes!

01:17:30.000 I'd be like, great!

01:17:31.000 No, that wouldn't be awesome. 1.00

01:17:32.000 A lot of dumb people would have... I mean, think about that. 1.00

01:17:34.000 A gun and just lying next to someone's mailbox?

01:17:37.000 No, that's not a good idea.

01:17:38.000 We don't want to do that.

01:17:39.000 I get it.

01:17:39.000 Go to a shop.

01:17:41.000 Have the weapon properly transferred.

01:17:42.000 Be responsible.

01:17:43.000 Take it seriously.

01:17:43.000 Follow the rules.

01:17:44.000 Get safety training and all that stuff.

01:17:46.000 Be responsible.

01:17:47.000 But that's just... It's an amazing gap in how they actually view the rights of minorities.

01:17:54.000 It's politically useful to be like, voter ID is wrong.

01:17:57.000 Okay, well, let's get them all guns. 0.99

01:17:58.000 I think the Black Panthers should have guns. 1.00

01:18:00.000 Absolutely.

01:18:01.000 I think these people in Chicago and Minnesota, wherever, have a right to have guns.

01:18:05.000 Where are you at, Democrats?

01:18:06.000 Where's Black Lives Matter on this one?

01:18:08.000 We can all fight for this.

01:18:09.000 The Black Panthers showed up in Richmond, Virginia, I think it was, when the 2A people were all protesting. 0.99

01:18:15.000 And it's funny how the media tries framing the Second Amendment guys as, like, white supremacists, and I'm like, they're taking selfies with the Black Panthers, smiling.

01:18:21.000 Right.

01:18:21.000 Right. Like these people are all very much like libertarian.

01:18:24.000 Like, hey, man, you get your gun.

01:18:25.000 I got mine. We'll high five each other.

01:18:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:18:28.000 I was in Texas years ago and I saw a bunch of, you know, guys look kind of like 0.98

01:18:32.000 militia guys standing around at a Trump rally with guns.

01:18:35.000 And a guy showed up wearing a shirt.

01:18:38.000 I think it was a Black Guns Matter shirt.

01:18:39.000 And it was a tall black dude with a beard and some some, you know, probably a

01:18:44.000 five, five, six, or 15 of some sort.

01:18:46.000 And he walked right up to these right-wing Trumpsters, and they shook hands, started talking, laughing with each other.

01:18:50.000 And it's because they had common interests.

01:18:52.000 They probably didn't agree politically on certain things, but they were very much pro-gun, pro-liberty, pro-each-other's-rights.

01:18:57.000 And both the white guy and the black guy recognized each other as respecting the rights of the individual.

01:19:01.000 I think that's what we need more of.

01:19:03.000 Yeah.

01:19:03.000 Let's do this.

01:19:04.000 This is a bit of a hard jump in terms of a segue, but I want to jump into the story about UFOs because I know you're an enthusiast.

01:19:11.000 Right, right.

01:19:13.000 So we have this story that has actually been going around for a little bit.

01:19:16.000 We've talked about it quite a bit.

01:19:17.000 Pictures and videos show unidentified flying objects moving above U.S.

01:19:21.000 Navy warships.

01:19:23.000 This story was updated just recently the other day, and the reason it's significant, military U.S.

01:19:29.000 naval ships, national security installations, are being spied on, essentially.

01:19:36.000 Something is flying above them?

01:19:38.000 Surveilling them, perhaps?

01:19:40.000 They're described as what, tic-tacs?

01:19:42.000 Well, they're various forms.

01:19:43.000 Tic-tacs, triangles, spheres encased in cubes.

01:19:51.000 All over the place, you're saying?

01:19:52.000 Yeah, yeah, all over the... I mean, the ones that we're looking at that have hit the news in recent years... Hold on, hold on, I'm sorry.

01:19:57.000 Spheres encased in cubes?

01:19:59.000 Yeah, that was the 2015... What?

01:20:03.000 2015 Theodore Roosevelt carrier strike crew.

01:20:05.000 One of the pilots described it looked like a sphere encased... nearly hit him.

01:20:09.000 And so there are various forms.

01:20:11.000 That's crazy.

01:20:12.000 And this stuff is not, I mean, this is what's, you know, I'm, you know, I do have a kind of eccentric sort of, you know, British sense of humor, whatever.

01:20:20.000 I'm relatively young.

01:20:22.000 As a journalist, I tell people I'm covering this issue because I feel my sourcing on it is very good.

01:20:30.000 It's complimentary to kind of writing about Russian and Chinese military activities, research and development.

01:20:37.000 It would be a very bad idea for me to lean into this subject, as I have, if I wasn't very, very confident.

01:20:42.000 Because credibility-wise, you become a loony tune, right?

01:20:49.000 So it is happening.

01:20:51.000 It's happening near the Navy, predominantly, in their work-up areas off the east and west coast.

01:20:56.000 The Navy assesses that at least a significant part of the reason it is happening near the carriers and the submarines is because of the nuclear reactors and weapons in some case on those, that these things are attracted to it.

01:21:07.000 That is top secret because the U.S.

01:21:10.000 does not want China and Russia to figure out how that detection capability comes about.

01:21:15.000 Wow.

01:21:15.000 Because if they did figure that out, they could destroy our nuclear deterrent forces.

01:21:19.000 So wait, you're saying that these weird flying things somehow can detect our nuclear capabilities?

01:21:25.000 And we don't want Russia and China to know how to detect our nuclear capabilities.

01:21:29.000 Yes, and that's classified, that assessment.

01:21:32.000 But it's not Russia and China doing this?

01:21:33.000 No, it's not.

01:21:34.000 Tim McMillan, who really I think is probably the top journalist on this, at least from the U.S.

01:21:40.000 point of view and the world, the debrief, both him and myself have said it's 99% sure we are.

01:21:48.000 Not simply because of, you know, as we understand it, what China and Russia have in development.

01:21:53.000 And they do have, for example, on hypersonic glide vehicles, which are going to be the new form of delivering nuclear weapons, the Russians are, at least in delivered platforms that are deployed, more advanced than the United States.

01:22:07.000 That's going to change soon.

01:22:10.000 But that's their top-end stuff.

01:22:12.000 This stuff is going hypersonic, but from stop to start.

01:22:16.000 No jet fuel.

01:22:19.000 No sonic boom.

01:22:20.000 No sonic boom in most cases.

01:22:23.000 The propulsion vectors, the behavior patterns.

01:22:27.000 The top lines, intelligently controlled machines because of how they interact.

01:22:32.000 happening since the end of the Second World War and again this is just focusing on military credible sources not you know and I think a lot of these witnesses are probably telling the truth but but you know you want to go with police officers people who have a lot to lose by saying I saw this or radar data platforms intelligent controlled machines capable transmedium travel underwater space you know through the air and again since this end of the Second World War We had Marco Rubio, I think, recently said that it's a serious threat we should talk about because we don't know who this is and they're flying over our national security.

01:23:07.000 Right, and he talks about strategic import.

01:23:09.000 He's talking about the nuclear connection there.

01:23:14.000 Marco Rubio also wants to run for president again in the future.

01:23:16.000 He's the vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

01:23:23.000 He knows he's seen that he knows this is really a it's not China Russia or us something's going on I'm gonna keep pushing this subject because it's gonna be good for my political career And I think he thinks the public should know more is it aliens.

01:23:36.000 I think it probably is.

01:23:36.000 Yes, you think it's probably alien I think it is probably a I am almost I'm highly confident.

01:23:41.000 It is either aliens or extra-dimensional No, and I really I pay listen that's a big thing to say right, you know, it's I I think that will be borne out in our lifetimes, that it really is something else.

01:23:56.000 Because if you, again, it's the Sherlock Holmes thing, right?

01:23:59.000 You eliminate the impossible, all you're left with, it is not US, China, Russia, or Elon Musk.

01:24:05.000 And it's machinery, and it's intelligently controlled.

01:24:08.000 I don't know if there are people in it or whatever.

01:24:10.000 And it's been happening since the Second World War.

01:24:12.000 Yeah.

01:24:13.000 Manhattan Project, right?

01:24:14.000 People at Google, Los Alamos, little green orbs.

01:24:19.000 Interdimensional, dude, that's freaky.

01:24:21.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, extra dimensional, whatever, you know, I don't know.

01:24:24.000 And then that is the sort of generous point that it's something other, right?

01:24:27.000 Yeah.

01:24:29.000 But that's the basic, that's why Marco Rubio is leaning into this, because they know it's not the Russians and Chinese, and they don't, and they, you know. 0.99

01:24:36.000 There's a conspiracy theory that once we actually drop the nukes, we basically send a signal.

01:24:42.000 Right.

01:24:42.000 So those who could detect nuclear capabilities were like, what are these creatures doing?

01:24:48.000 This is insane.

01:24:49.000 High level of intellect.

01:24:51.000 Right.

01:24:51.000 Technical proficiency.

01:24:52.000 And they understand how devastating these weapons can be.

01:24:54.000 And then there's other conspiracies that they've shut off our nuclear capabilities in the past.

01:24:57.000 You've heard those stories?

01:24:58.000 Yeah.

01:24:58.000 Robert Hastings, who's become a friend of mine.

01:25:01.000 He's the guy who wrote the kind of Bible on that UFOs and nukes.

01:25:03.000 Not a terribly original title, but the The sourcing is excellent, and yes they have, and they've done it to the Russians.

01:25:09.000 What's interesting as well is the, you know, the Russians and Chinese have these experiences still, you know, nuclear platform sites, and the Russians, being Russians in the Cold War, you know, tried to shoot these things down a couple of times and the pilots ended up dying.

01:25:27.000 So, yeah.

01:25:28.000 So there's a part I don't know more than that. That was actually came out in a declassified

01:25:32.000 British military report. I've heard it from, you know, at least one other source. Very good. So

01:25:36.000 there's a lot more to this subject. You ever see Stranger Things?

01:25:39.000 Uh, no. Are you familiar with the show? Yes.

01:25:43.000 There's the upside down.

01:25:45.000 When I think about extra-dimensional, there's one thing I've often wondered.

01:25:49.000 We have invisible means of data transmission.

01:25:54.000 We use electromagnetic waves of various frequencies to send signals to other devices.

01:26:01.000 And I often wondered, I wonder if what is invisible to us is actually a physical phenomenon in another dimension of sorts that we can't perceive.

01:26:08.000 And so we are actually just completely ignorant of what we're doing, maybe on the other side.

01:26:14.000 So as we broadcast a signal, you know, like a five gigahertz signal to us, nothing happens.

01:26:19.000 We don't see anything.

01:26:20.000 It's not ionizing radiation.

01:26:21.000 But then maybe in this another dimension or the upside down or whatever, it's actually like ripples, like pushing through water, having a very serious impact on something that might be on the other side.

01:26:33.000 Yeah.

01:26:34.000 So real quick, just when we talk about extra dimensional, I wonder if then the reason they're detecting the nuclear reactors and energy is because it's having a physical reaction in their dimension or whatever, right?

01:26:46.000 Maybe, you know, we don't know.

01:26:47.000 It's a wild, wild, crazy thought.

01:26:50.000 To be, to be honest, I have no idea.

01:26:51.000 There is, you know, and you can go back in time, you look at, you know, there was a situation with one of the, you know, very top Roman generals, I think finding the Thracians, where the testimony of, I forget, the Roman historian, And it's actually on UFO sightings, you know Wikipedia page, but I went and backtracked the sourcing is legitimate Describing what looks like a UFO coming in between two armies The behavior patterns of some of these things are really interesting and where they appear, you know, there's a school connection point School.

01:27:25.000 Yep school in Zimbabwe Ariel school in 1994 Zimbabwe all the kids eight-year-old nine-year-old kids describing it some of them saying they saw a being and Melbourne, 1967.

01:27:37.000 There's one in Miami.

01:27:39.000 Why are they appearing at school sometimes?

01:27:41.000 Those are both saucer type.

01:27:42.000 There's a lot to this.

01:27:44.000 It's easy to go down the rabbit hole, but something very significant is going on.

01:27:51.000 I'll tell you something crazy.

01:27:53.000 Do you know about the O'Hare airport sighting?

01:27:55.000 Yeah, in 2006, yeah.

01:27:56.000 It was 2006, are you sure?

01:27:58.000 Pretty confident, yeah.

01:27:58.000 2006?

01:27:59.000 Makes sense.

01:28:00.000 So, I worked at O'Hare.

01:28:02.000 Until 2006.

01:28:04.000 And I had friends who worked there.

01:28:07.000 I worked in the terminal, not the terminal, this was in the United, it was above the United.

01:28:14.000 Above the gate, right?

01:28:16.000 So where I worked was just next to United Terminal.

01:28:19.000 So I worked for American Eagle Airlines, which is next to American Airlines.

01:28:23.000 And so a bunch of the guys that I had quit, and then this happened, I think, maybe five or six months after.

01:28:29.000 So I had friends who were still there.

01:28:31.000 And when this happened, I was immediately like, yo, yo, what happened, what did you see?

01:28:35.000 And a bunch of them said they saw it.

01:28:37.000 They said that some object came down through the clouds or was seen floating in the sky for a minute or two and then shot straight up and punched a hole in the clouds.

01:28:47.000 And they were told it was a weather phenomenon.

01:28:49.000 Now here's where it gets crazy.

01:28:51.000 One of my friends said they were driving to work at the time.

01:28:54.000 They were driving on Mannheim Road, which is just outside of O'Hare.

01:28:56.000 It's been a long time, mind you.

01:28:58.000 This is, what, 15 years?

01:28:59.000 They were on Mannheim Road, which is one of the major roads that goes up just next to O'Hare Airport.

01:29:05.000 And they said, when this thing came down, people stopped their cars and got out and were staring up at it.

01:29:12.000 And I was told that people were taking pictures.

01:29:14.000 Early camera phones existed at the time.

01:29:16.000 And so I was like, where's all that, all those photos at?

01:29:19.000 Now there was one photo that got released.

01:29:21.000 The pilot was in the plane and he turned and took and this is grainy, you know, crappy photo.

01:29:26.000 But from what I heard, and maybe it's just exaggerations and hearsay

01:29:30.000 and it was wrong.

01:29:31.000 I had someone tell me straight up, they saw people taking pictures of it.

01:29:33.000 Where'd those pictures go?

01:29:35.000 We didn't have the internet.

01:29:36.000 We didn't have Facebook the way we do.

01:29:37.000 So maybe it's just sitting on these old, you know, flip phones from 2006 that never got put online.

01:29:42.000 I've heard the same thing.

01:29:44.000 Interesting that the descriptions there were a saucer.

01:29:46.000 You know, it tends to be now tic-tacs, triangles, whether that's multiple or originating vectors, right?

01:29:51.000 Multiple things.

01:29:53.000 But it's a very good point.

01:29:54.000 I also think, though, people ask why do we not have more photos now, right?

01:29:57.000 With iPhones, such good quality, you know, whatever phone you have.

01:30:01.000 I think that is going to be these things when they're seen are either willing to be seen or want to be seen.

01:30:08.000 There are photos of them.

01:30:10.000 But there aren't as many as we might expect.

01:30:12.000 I think the issue is... Let me put it this way.

01:30:16.000 I once looked up at the sky and the moon looked amazing.

01:30:20.000 And I was just looking at the corona and the color.

01:30:22.000 It was like a blood moon with this massive corona.

01:30:25.000 And it was a full moon and I was like, wow!

01:30:28.000 Let me take a picture of this.

01:30:29.000 I put my camera at it, and it's a white dot on the screen, and I'm like, I cannot capture this moment on a phone.

01:30:35.000 I have seen weird things in the sky before that look like there's a tail coming off, and I'm like, was that a comet or a meteorite?

01:30:41.000 And I put my camera at it, and you lose all the definition, and all it is is a red dot with a grainy blue background. 0.55

01:30:46.000 And I'm like, damn, I can't take a picture of this.

01:30:49.000 I think people overestimate the power of cell phone cameras with long range, uh, low resolution photographs. 0.95

01:30:56.000 So if you, if I guess people are expecting like the saucer to land in their backyard and then to get a higher resolution photo, they're not doing that.

01:31:03.000 They've never done that.

01:31:04.000 So one thing though that hopefully, you obviously mentioned Jeremy Corbell's photos, there were some other ones that I had that, you know, happened similar, well actually, you know, slightly different time.

01:31:18.000 One thing that myself and Tim McMillan reported on last December is a, in December 2019 or thereabouts, Now, the pilots in the F-18s, right from the carrier groups, have their iPhones.

01:31:33.000 One air crew took a photo of a triangle, which we've seen David Marler's coming out the water.

01:31:40.000 And that photo, I have not seen it.

01:31:42.000 I know it exists, you know, multiple sources.

01:31:47.000 When that photo comes out, I think that will be a really pretty pivotal moment because it will be from an aircrew, there'll be a chain of custody, and you know, when you see that thing, and then when they match up the sensor data with it, anyway.

01:32:00.000 These Jeremy Corbell photos, the ones that are talking about the naval warships, they're white specks.

01:32:04.000 You can't even see anything.

01:32:05.000 Yeah, I mean, you see one of them looks like a pyramid.

01:32:07.000 I mean, the Navy were tracking them, though, and they did identify them as unknown.

01:32:12.000 It was talked about multiple days, multiple ships.

01:32:15.000 And the Navy really has an incentive to not want to talk about this stuff.

01:32:19.000 Susan Goff, who leads the press effort at the Pentagon, everything goes through her.

01:32:22.000 I reached out to her today.

01:32:24.000 About actually kind of Jeremy Corbell stuff through NCIS goes back to her.

01:32:29.000 Very tightly controlled.

01:32:31.000 I don't think it's so much that they're trying to conceal alien bodies in the basement.

01:32:34.000 I think they really don't, they don't know how to handle the issue and it keeps happening and it's escalating.

01:32:39.000 So this, this is not going away.

01:32:41.000 And again, journalistically, I think it will do a lot of favors for my career that I've lent into it.

01:32:45.000 You said it's 99% likely that it's not a Russian, Chinese or American.

01:32:51.000 Where'd you get that number?

01:32:52.000 That's my, that's my assessment.

01:32:54.000 But I think it's, I'm very confident that is the assessment shared by ONI, Office of Naval Intelligence, which leads the investigative effort.

01:33:03.000 Personally, I feel like it's more likely that the Navy's lying than that extraterrestrials are arrived, just mathematically, in a likelihood guess.

01:33:13.000 I think you have to, yeah, you have to trust, again, your sources.

01:33:18.000 You have to look at platforms that are in place.

01:33:20.000 I mean, we're not just... The thing that's interesting about these, and again, looking at the historic, certainly with the triangles, the way these things behave, non-jet propulsion, trans-medium travel, hypersonic instantaneous acceleration, which would rip a human body apart, unless you have some kind of... Inertial dampeners.

01:33:39.000 Exactly.

01:33:40.000 A space-time bubble, potentially, which might be the things on the side of the triangle.

01:33:45.000 Maybe not.

01:33:46.000 But I think probably is.

01:33:47.000 And again, that's not me saying that.

01:33:49.000 The port and the starboard nacelles.

01:33:51.000 Right.

01:33:53.000 But the capabilities across the board, multiple points, right?

01:33:58.000 You know, hypersonic, non-jet propulsion, transmedium.

01:34:02.000 That stuff is so far.

01:34:03.000 We don't have any of that.

01:34:04.000 Well, you could think it could be plasma, like a cloud of plasma being turned around by light.

01:34:07.000 We have debris.

01:34:08.000 Bro.

01:34:09.000 Surface plasma.

01:34:10.000 Imagine.

01:34:11.000 We have debris.

01:34:12.000 Metallic debris.

01:34:13.000 Imagine someone.

01:34:14.000 Oh, it could be a metamaterial, yeah.

01:34:15.000 Imagine someone in the 1800s trying to explain a jet engine, and they'd be trying to use

01:34:18.000 their understanding of science to explain futuristic technology.

01:34:23.000 They wouldn't be thinking about these combustion engines in the same way.

01:34:27.000 Or more importantly, when we talk about electricity, and then you go back and try and explain it to someone in the pre, you know, pre-electricity, they're not going to understand the concept of how this works.

01:34:37.000 And so they're going to try and use their perspective on science.

01:34:41.000 You end up with ideas like the ether, you know what I mean?

01:34:44.000 They don't quite, they can't conceptualize this stuff.

01:34:47.000 What debris did they find?

01:34:50.000 So the debris in terms of metamaterial, I know the US government has it.

01:34:56.000 I've heard that from two extremely good sources, extremely good, verified, you know, that it is from a crash location, you know, identified something went down, recovered, and the material analysis of it, there's a lot of different elements of metamaterial that people say are from UFOs or UAPs.

01:35:20.000 The US government stuff, there's again chain of custody from siding crash, whatever, that because of the metallurgy or the binding of the metals within it, it would be impossible to do with our understanding of manufacturing and that it would require at least, you know, one very good source told me, Again, and these are government people, right?

01:35:45.000 This is not some, you know, this is not researchers who I think there are some great researchers, but I'm trying to be very careful here about being able to have a governmental link to what I'm saying.

01:35:55.000 That you could not produce it where you're not in a zero gravity environment.

01:36:00.000 So space!

01:36:02.000 And so this is something that, you know, other people have talked about with, they say, you know, metal analysis.

01:36:09.000 But, again, when you've got the radar returns, the ICBM satellites that we, in case China decides to nuke us in the middle of the night, that we can track it.

01:36:21.000 You've got this stuff coming into orbit.

01:36:23.000 You've got the nuclear attack submarines catching it underwater at hundreds of knots.

01:36:26.000 You've got it in the air.

01:36:29.000 You've got the pilots seeing it.

01:36:31.000 You've got infrared.

01:36:34.000 You have, you know, just a gamut of sensitive data matched up, at least in limited circumstances, to, you know, metallurgical analysis.

01:36:46.000 You know, this is really something going on here.

01:36:48.000 And again, it's better actually, though, to say, right, who the hell is Tom Rogan?

01:36:53.000 You know, the Marco Rubio, the people are leaning into this.

01:36:58.000 You know, something is going on.

01:37:00.000 Yeah.

01:37:02.000 And time will tell.

01:37:04.000 I mean, I do that metallurgical analysis, right?

01:37:06.000 That is very hard to, as someone told me, avoid the physics.

01:37:10.000 Just kind of, you know, focus on it's really interesting and here's what we know.

01:37:16.000 But the seal has been broken now, right?

01:37:20.000 It seems like there are no physics when it comes to the metal.

01:37:22.000 Like, I have no evidence of metallurgy.

01:37:25.000 Took for you to see. Yeah, right and the government is known lying to us like weapons of mass destruction

01:37:31.000 Yeah, well, I mean I don't Intelligence failure, you know could explain some of this

01:37:40.000 but But again, when you have the cross section, I appreciate, well, I do appreciate the fact that it's, you know, I'm saying, right, this is my reporting.

01:37:49.000 But, you know, I could be a liar.

01:37:51.000 And I could be being misled.

01:37:53.000 I think Bob Lazar was misled.

01:37:55.000 No, I'm not writing.

01:37:56.000 But yeah, I don't know about zeta reticuli.

01:37:58.000 I don't believe Bob, I actually personally don't believe him.

01:38:00.000 I think he saw the craft that they were working on, the drones, but then they told him they were aliens.

01:38:07.000 He said he saw a little green man.

01:38:09.000 That guy has a track record.

01:38:12.000 You've got to talk to people who have the credentials, and that's what I've tried to focus on.

01:38:18.000 Like what?

01:38:18.000 With Lazar, it seems like he was working on a drone program and that they told him it was aliens to throw it so that he didn't go and spew like the government's working on drones.

01:38:27.000 Zeta Reticuli?

01:38:29.000 It's nonsense. 0.99

01:38:30.000 So he went out and told everyone that and now he looks like he's crazy. 0.99

01:38:33.000 Right.

01:38:33.000 Doesn't mean that they weren't working on a drone program.

01:38:34.000 I mean, they raided Tesla's laboratory in the 20s.

01:38:37.000 I just think that guy lacks credibility.

01:38:40.000 Sure, sure, sure, that's fine, but his story's changed, and I'm not interested in someone telling a story and being all smiley and confident about it and then coming out 20, 30 years later and being like, oh, actually, that wasn't true, because back then it was sensational, got him on TV.

01:38:53.000 Today, no one believes it.

01:38:55.000 So he takes that part out of his story.

01:38:56.000 He said he saw a little green man.

01:38:57.000 Yeah, and I took that out.

01:38:59.000 I was a puppet. 1.00

01:39:00.000 Shut up. 0.95

01:39:01.000 I would say as well that I mean, I think my reporting will stand on the merits, but I would say a basic place to start Robert Hastings UFOs and nukes and David Mahler triangle UFOs. 0.96

01:39:13.000 Those are two very good serious people who are just keeping it to eyewitnesses who have credibility and doing their due diligence.

01:39:21.000 And it's fun.

01:39:22.000 It's fun.

01:39:23.000 I believe maybe we'll actually get to the point where we will discover what it is or it'll be unveiled to the public.

01:39:30.000 But I think we're going to discover a lot more in the coming years.

01:39:32.000 I think for sure something, but I just don't, I don't see aliens.

01:39:36.000 I mean, I have no, no evidence, even remote evidence of aliens.

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01:40:22.000 It would be fun to see you guys together for one show again at Cheers from East Europe.

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01:40:28.000 We'll see how things roll.

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01:40:44.000 Ulysses says, Tim, can you explain why Veritas hasn't been cancelled yet?

01:40:47.000 It makes no sense to me because they're bucking the narrative and exposing lies, but are still being allowed to produce content.

01:40:53.000 They got banned from Twitter not that long ago.

01:40:55.000 So they're certainly trying, but Veritas is on the level.

01:41:00.000 They want to claim they're deceptive and all that, and James O'Keefe comes out with the very accurate point.

01:41:06.000 He just produces videos of people with their mouth moving.

01:41:09.000 If their mouth isn't moving, he doesn't produce the content.

01:41:12.000 And he's correct.

01:41:13.000 There's a lot of footage.

01:41:14.000 There's some where you can't see their mouth move.

01:41:15.000 I get it.

01:41:16.000 You get his point.

01:41:16.000 The point is he has videos of people saying things.

01:41:19.000 You want to say it's deceptively edited or whatever?

01:41:21.000 Sorry, man.

01:41:22.000 You're gonna have to do better than that because other news organizations do much worse.

01:41:26.000 They say, we have an anonymous source.

01:41:28.000 We won't reveal to you.

01:41:29.000 Just trust us.

01:41:30.000 This is what they said.

01:41:31.000 At least with James O'Keefe, you can see somebody saying it.

01:41:34.000 That's a hundred times more credible than our anonymous source said.

01:41:38.000 But they're trying to cancel him.

01:41:39.000 All right, Common Cure says small towns are the future.

01:41:43.000 Here, here.

01:41:45.000 All right, let's see.

01:41:46.000 Where are we at?

01:41:49.000 Julie Ann says, Would love if you could have Drew Hernandez on.

01:41:53.000 Founder of Lives Matter Independent Investigative Journalist.

01:41:56.000 Was just at border about to go to Minneapolis.

01:41:59.000 We have had Drew on the show.

01:42:01.000 Multiple times!

01:42:02.000 Yes, Drew's great.

01:42:03.000 He's great.

01:42:03.000 I love him.

01:42:04.000 All right.

01:42:04.000 Good worker.

01:42:05.000 Brett Morgan says, Tim, I want to start a Virginia chapter of TimCast Independent Journalists.

01:42:10.000 They and you can message me at thecaptain251 on Twitter.

01:42:14.000 It is TimCast, the independent media broadcast.

01:42:17.000 There you go.

01:42:20.000 VGK Stone says, what's up gang?

01:42:22.000 Watch your show every night.

01:42:23.000 Love it.

01:42:24.000 Ian, have you heard of the story up in Quebec, Canada right now with graphene in the blue surgical masks?

01:42:29.000 Health Canada put out a recall on blue surgical masks.

01:42:32.000 Yeah, someone sent me a message about that.

01:42:34.000 I didn't read into it though.

01:42:35.000 Interesting.

01:42:35.000 Really?

01:42:36.000 I laughed when I read it.

01:42:37.000 That's crazy.

01:42:39.000 Opossum says, I fear no matter what comes out, people will never wake up.

01:42:43.000 I have three close friends and I send them things disproving the corporate narrative and they still don't see it.

01:42:48.000 They say, willful ignorance.

01:42:50.000 Yep.

01:42:51.000 That's a problem.

01:42:55.000 All right, let's see where we at.

01:42:57.000 Matt Daniel says, Yo Tim, I got into crypto after hearing you talk about it during the GameStop stock thing in January.

01:43:03.000 I invested in Doge and it's gone up like 900% now.

01:43:06.000 What's Doge at?

01:43:07.000 I didn't look today.

01:43:08.000 I'll check it out.

01:43:08.000 Bitcoin's at $63,000.

01:43:09.000 Ethereum too.

01:43:09.000 What's Ethereum at?

01:43:10.000 $2,300 or something.

01:43:16.000 Ow! 1.00

01:43:17.000 Remember we had Bill on the show and he was like, you should, he was like, Ethereum sounds like it's a good idea.

01:43:22.000 Not financial advice.

01:43:23.000 And then I was like, okay, I'll buy some.

01:43:25.000 Crypto sounds like a good idea.

01:43:26.000 Not financial advice.

01:43:28.000 Tell me what doge is.

01:43:29.000 Doge is at 10 cents.

01:43:30.000 11 cents.

01:43:31.000 11 cents.

01:43:32.000 Wasn't it at like 4 cents?

01:43:34.000 It was 0.00004 cents like last year or something.

01:43:40.000 Yeah, it was at 4 cents.

01:43:41.000 Imagine being a dogecoin millionaire.

01:43:43.000 You know, I made my first million in Dogecoin.

01:43:46.000 Of course.

01:43:47.000 The name is befitting.

01:43:49.000 Yes.

01:43:49.000 Of millionaire status.

01:43:52.000 Ronald Asherov says Brian Salter has been demoted to making Tucker Carlson reaction videos.

01:43:57.000 True though. 0.57

01:43:57.000 Yeah, that's true. 0.57

01:43:59.000 That's unfortunate.

01:44:01.000 OMG Puppy says, Moore's suppressed Planet of the Humans is interesting look at corruption of green energy industry.

01:44:07.000 Biomass power plants burn trees, showcase solar farms are abandoned ruins, mining and fossil fuel use behind all green tech.

01:44:18.000 Interesting.

01:44:19.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:44:24.000 Josh L says, can Substack become YouTube for writing?

01:44:28.000 Well, the issue is, the difference between Substack and YouTube in general is that YouTube has advertising propping it up.

01:44:35.000 So if you're on YouTube, ads run on the content, you make money, you've also got super chats and things like that for live streams.

01:44:42.000 But the membership function for YouTube is not that great.

01:44:45.000 Doge was .002 cents a year ago, so it is appreciated 50 times in the last year.

01:44:47.000 Wow.

01:44:47.000 writing checks to people to get them to come over.

01:44:50.000 So it won't be the YouTube of writing.

01:44:51.000 I think Medium tried to do that and it wasn't as effective.

01:44:54.000 The thing about Substack is they found a way to create a career for people out of it.

01:44:57.000 So it's more like Patreon with a focus on writing.

01:44:59.000 I should clarify, Doge was .002 cents a year ago, so it is appreciated 50 times in the

01:45:06.000 last year.

01:45:07.000 Wow.

01:45:08.000 Impressive.

01:45:09.000 All right.

01:45:10.000 Zermis Playgrounds says, Amazon can't even go a month without becoming more totalitarian.

01:45:15.000 They forced facial recognition login.

01:45:17.000 Then they installed cameras that watch everything you do and will even text your boss if you yawn.

01:45:24.000 Now there's a wrong think policy we have to sign.

01:45:26.000 What?

01:45:26.000 Is that true?

01:45:28.000 If you yawn, your boss gets a text about it?

01:45:30.000 Where's that at?

01:45:31.000 At Amazon?

01:45:32.000 Geez.

01:45:33.000 Well, I'll tell you this.

01:45:34.000 If it were me, I would quit.

01:45:36.000 I'd rather just live under a tree in the middle of the woods and go fishing down by the river.

01:45:41.000 Man, I feel for people that need money right now.

01:45:44.000 What do you need money for?

01:45:46.000 Food, rent, family, feed your kids.

01:45:48.000 Plenty of fish in the sea.

01:45:49.000 Pay for your house.

01:45:51.000 What did our ancestors do?

01:45:53.000 Did they go like, rats, I need money. 0.99

01:45:54.000 Killed a bunch of Native Americans. 1.00

01:45:56.000 Or did they just go like, I'm going to kill a deer and eat it. 1.00

01:45:58.000 Feed my family.

01:45:59.000 They could catch it, yeah.

01:46:00.000 They could.

01:46:01.000 Sometimes.

01:46:02.000 There aren't many deer in the inner cities.

01:46:03.000 There was a lot of starvation back then.

01:46:05.000 That's the problem, man.

01:46:06.000 Don't live in these cities.

01:46:06.000 You come out in the middle of nowhere and the deer are a problem.

01:46:09.000 It is.

01:46:10.000 They're pests.

01:46:11.000 That's what they call them.

01:46:12.000 Beautiful out here as well.

01:46:13.000 Yeah.

01:46:13.000 I've, I've got a lot of the people at the gun shop.

01:46:15.000 They're like, you have a deer, a lot of deer on your property?

01:46:17.000 I'm like, oh, tons.

01:46:17.000 And they're like, we can deal with them for you.

01:46:19.000 I'm like, they don't bother me because we, they're not destroying any of our crops, like anything like that.

01:46:24.000 But for a lot of people, that is a problem when they have like fruit trees and the deer come and just tear it all up and stuff like that.

01:46:29.000 And there's too many of them.

01:46:31.000 So hunting is literally because there's too many deer.

01:46:34.000 You got to keep the numbers in check.

01:46:36.000 Interestingly, though, I was reading once about how they reintroduce wolves to, like, the Yellowstone area, and the wolves keep the numbers in check and restore balance.

01:46:43.000 It was really interesting.

01:46:44.000 We need some hunting of foxes in London.

01:46:47.000 Yeah.

01:46:48.000 A tortoise was killed by a fox.

01:46:50.000 That's terrible.

01:46:52.000 Richard Cook says, Tom, the BBC news app slants every story with race-abating style commentary.

01:46:58.000 They do report facts, but in an asymmetric way.

01:47:01.000 Leaving out the race of an alleged criminal when they are not white.

01:47:04.000 It's not good.

01:47:05.000 Not perfect, but you know, I think it's, it's, it's a pretty good place.

01:47:09.000 I think you made the good point.

01:47:10.000 You've got to, you've got to read around.

01:47:11.000 Exactly.

01:47:11.000 You can't go to look, I'll tell you this.

01:47:14.000 You go to the BBC, read an article.

01:47:15.000 You need to fact check what you're reading.

01:47:18.000 And I do think, you know, and I'm sure hopefully it will be replicated so there's more competition, but one good thing where Google really does deserve a positive shout out is the Google Translate.

01:47:27.000 Because going on, you could go on Kommersant, you know, Russian newspaper, you know, just hitting that button, maybe it's not going to be entirely accurate, but it gives you an idea of foreign media.

01:47:37.000 Do you know about BBC Pigeon?

01:47:39.000 No.

01:47:40.000 A lot of people are surprised to find this.

01:47:42.000 Pidgin is, I think it's like West African phonetic English.

01:47:47.000 Yeah, so it's like phonetic, I guess, what do they call it?

01:47:52.000 Ebonic English?

01:47:54.000 And a lot of people read it thinking it's a different language and then they realize it's actually English.

01:47:58.000 Right.

01:47:58.000 But it's just crazy.

01:48:00.000 Pidgin English.

01:48:01.000 Yeah, Pidgin English.

01:48:02.000 It's really interesting.

01:48:03.000 But like the BBC, it's like a funded newsroom writing this style.

01:48:09.000 It's interesting.

01:48:10.000 All right.

01:48:11.000 Nevitz WC says, I see you want to get into entertainment like movies and television.

01:48:15.000 Would you ever consider getting into graphic novels?

01:48:18.000 I'm writing one because of my beliefs.

01:48:19.000 I don't want it published by the woke.

01:48:21.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:48:22.000 Yeah.

01:48:23.000 Um, yeah, you know, you know, who's amazing is, um, oh man, I'm forgetting the name of his books are right downstairs.

01:48:31.000 George?

01:48:32.000 Junji Ito.

01:48:33.000 We have like tons of Junji Ito graphic novel, manga, horror stuff.

01:48:38.000 Really creepy.

01:48:39.000 Some of the best horror I've ever read.

01:48:41.000 It was twisting my mind to try and read through those.

01:48:43.000 What was it, Maki?

01:48:44.000 It was twisting your mind?

01:48:45.000 It was rough.

01:48:46.000 It's amazing!

01:48:47.000 I was a different person when I finished that first one.

01:48:49.000 Yeah, dude.

01:48:49.000 Brilliant, brilliant stuff.

01:48:52.000 Dixie Normus says, haha.

01:48:54.000 Tim, why are you hating on WandaVision so much?

01:48:56.000 Elizabeth Olsen is my queen. 0.98

01:48:57.000 Because the first three episodes are trash. 0.90

01:49:00.000 It's not even a real show. 0.98

01:49:01.000 Just waste our time.

01:49:03.000 And then the next several episodes are okay, but she's the bad guy?

01:49:06.000 I thought it was going to be revealed that she was being manipulated.

01:49:08.000 I thought it was going to be like, oh, it turns out she was being manipulated to do all this.

01:49:12.000 Oh no, she's just evil. 1.00

01:49:14.000 She's literally just torturing people who beg for death. 1.00

01:49:17.000 She's the bad guy How was Agatha supposed to be the bad guy when she's like, how are you doing this?

01:49:21.000 I want your power I'm like, okay, if there was someone who was torturing thousands of people and you said I Want to take away your ability to torture them.

01:49:30.000 I guess she wanted it for herself.

01:49:31.000 That's still kind of bad, but you know What do you think of the Witcher?

01:49:36.000 I didn't watch it.

01:49:36.000 I'll tell you what I thought about it.

01:49:38.000 I turned it on, watched a few minutes, and then turned it off.

01:49:40.000 Okay, all right.

01:49:41.000 We'll leave that there.

01:49:42.000 Yeah, I'm not trying to say it was a bad show.

01:49:45.000 I'm saying I just couldn't get it.

01:49:48.000 I'll be honest, I did the same thing with the video game.

01:49:50.000 I played the first 15 minutes and then I was like, I hear it's amazing and I just can't get through.

01:49:54.000 Me too.

01:49:55.000 I played the first one, I put it down, picked up the second one.

01:49:57.000 I was like, I should beat the first one first.

01:49:59.000 I put it down, picked up the third one, played it for like 20 hours.

01:50:02.000 Keep trying it, yeah.

01:50:03.000 But I barely scratched the surface.

01:50:05.000 Red Dead Redemption 2.

01:50:05.000 I haven't played it.

01:50:06.000 Gotta get on that.

01:50:07.000 It's good.

01:50:08.000 My brother knows that I like that game.

01:50:09.000 It's cool that you can experience like an old west town, like southern, like Louisiana in the 1850s, and it's almost like a VR reality where you get to be there and see the sound, hear the sounds and see it.

01:50:20.000 That's cool.

01:50:21.000 Richard Cook just followed up.

01:50:21.000 He said, you missed my point.

01:50:23.000 I can easily surf around for the truth.

01:50:24.000 However, the masses will not do that.

01:50:26.000 This is what deranges the population.

01:50:29.000 No, I agree.

01:50:31.000 That's basically the point I was saying.

01:50:33.000 Yet, a discerning individual, someone who's politically initiated, will know how to spot the pitfall.

01:50:38.000 Media literacy.

01:50:39.000 We know how to spot the pitfalls when we're reading a story and we see the slant and the bias.

01:50:43.000 How do we solve for the fact that these organizations don't do that?

01:50:47.000 Education.

01:50:48.000 Yeah, really.

01:50:51.000 Cody Moons has been watching since the first time I saw you on Crowder.

01:50:55.000 Keep up the good work.

01:50:55.000 Hey, appreciate it.

01:50:57.000 Infinity Flare says, Great take, Tim.

01:50:59.000 I live in Seattle and wish the police would take up your suggestion.

01:51:01.000 Let the enlightened left put their own lives on the line.

01:51:05.000 I just... Could you imagine what would happen?

01:51:07.000 I like your idea.

01:51:08.000 The cops give notice.

01:51:09.000 All right, everybody, in 14 days, we will officially resign all at once.

01:51:14.000 You give it a week, word travels around, and then people are going to be,

01:51:19.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:51:19.000 There's going to be like flowers and fruit baskets and chocolates being mailed to the cops.

01:51:23.000 It's also interesting.

01:51:24.000 I was thinking about this, that the way we describe that, I bet, you know,

01:51:28.000 if it was sort of going to be reported, you know, in left-wing media, they would say that it was,

01:51:33.000 we were calling for, you know, the police, we should go back to the days where the police

01:51:37.000 could just do whatever they wanted no accountability.

01:51:39.000 What we're actually just suggesting is just accountable policing, but like, the balance of law being, you know, predicated on, you know, Innocent until proven guilty.

01:51:51.000 Being treated fairly.

01:51:53.000 And we have people who are just spoiled.

01:51:56.000 They're so used to the cops actually dealing with a lot of this crime and dealing with... Let me slow down.

01:52:03.000 My dad was a firefighter.

01:52:04.000 And he said, son, you never want to be a cop.

01:52:06.000 They work awful hours and man, it's like a miserable job.

01:52:10.000 Everybody, you see the worst of people every single day.

01:52:12.000 You're in your car, and you get a call.

01:52:14.000 Some nasty person's doing something nasty, and you got to deal with this every single day.

01:52:18.000 People think, like, the cops spend most of their day, what, like, riding tickets.

01:52:21.000 A lot of cops spend a lot of their days in these cities, dealing with violent, deranged individuals who won't listen, are breaking the law.

01:52:28.000 It's a nasty job.

01:52:29.000 Domestic violence.

01:52:30.000 And now a lot of people are just accustomed to the ease that, you know, the police are a deterrent in many ways.

01:52:38.000 And so when crime happens, they don't see it.

01:52:41.000 They know that they don't need to have guns at their house because the cops are just a phone call away.

01:52:45.000 Well, what happens when the cops are like, all right, you won't support us.

01:52:48.000 That's fine.

01:52:50.000 We'll leave.

01:52:51.000 Call 9-1-1!

01:52:51.000 Yeah.

01:52:51.000 Well, I love it when the guy- Call the EMS!

01:52:54.000 When the guy fell off the building.

01:52:56.000 Yeah, call 9-1-1!

01:52:56.000 The anti-police activists who get hurt and then go, help!

01:52:59.000 Call the police!

01:53:00.000 I feel for EMS, man, because if the cops resign and we rely on everyone, call 9-1-1!

01:53:05.000 It's gonna be- Do you see the video?

01:53:07.000 There's a video of these Antifa people leaving a riot and they're crossing a bridge when they, like, throw something at a car and then the guy, like, jumps out and he's armed or something.

01:53:16.000 And they're like, call the police!

01:53:18.000 Call the police!

01:53:19.000 Oh, yeah.

01:53:21.000 I would love to see that cop walk out and be like, you guys are upset?

01:53:24.000 Nah, you're good.

01:53:25.000 You don't need me, right?

01:53:26.000 I got fired.

01:53:26.000 I'm out later.

01:53:28.000 It's like there's that moment in the novel when finally the police are gone and all the protesters realize that the totalitarian military dictatorship that took the place of the police that's abusing, beating, and murdering them, that it's not that good and that you feel like Good.

01:53:46.000 Now they're getting just desserts. 0.92

01:53:48.000 Now they're getting killed by the corrupt. 1.00

01:53:51.000 Like, you want to see them suffer for their idiocy, but I don't want that in society because we'll be left with a military dictatorship. 1.00

01:53:59.000 They're not. 0.99

01:54:00.000 I said it would be only a few days before they're begging the police and the police are right there saying, okay, okay, we're here.

01:54:06.000 That's why I said his idea was better.

01:54:08.000 Putting a notice out saying, in 30 days, we're done, you will see how quickly people immediately like, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, we take it back, we take it back, we don't want to abolish the police.

01:54:17.000 They abolished the police in Minneapolis, and then panicked as phone calls started coming in saying there's crime, no one's stopping it, the police won't respond anymore.

01:54:25.000 It was panic, it was chaos.

01:54:27.000 Crime was skyrocketing.

01:54:29.000 If the police just said, okay, we've heard from the activists.

01:54:33.000 The mayors are mad at us.

01:54:34.000 The politicians are scapegoating us.

01:54:36.000 The Democrats hate our guts.

01:54:39.000 We're going to, we're out.

01:54:40.000 It's all you guys.

01:54:40.000 We're going to go be firefighters or we're going to go work construction or something.

01:54:44.000 The residents of these cities, Trump, I'll tell you this.

01:54:47.000 If every cop in Minneapolis resigned the moment their, their, you know, third prison or whatever, burnt to the ground, I bet Trump would have won Minnesota.

01:54:57.000 Right.

01:54:58.000 Right.

01:54:58.000 If the police said, I watched that video of the cops running out of the police precinct as it's being burnt to the ground as people, one guy stole a bunch of police gear.

01:55:06.000 And these cops, some of them, many of them quit, like in general.

01:55:10.000 Much of them just stayed.

01:55:11.000 And then said, we know that we're being abused by our own government.

01:55:16.000 We know that many of the people in the city refuse to defend us or stand up for us, but don't worry, we're not going anywhere.

01:55:22.000 That's crazy to me.

01:55:23.000 If they said, you get what you ask for.

01:55:26.000 The people have now voted for this.

01:55:28.000 Minnesota was blue, right?

01:55:29.000 It voted Democrat.

01:55:32.000 Okay, the police have now understood, not only do people not support them, but they actually vote in the same people who smear, sacrifice, or just, you know, try and scapegoat them, and they're still there.

01:55:46.000 That's amazing.

01:55:47.000 That's amazing to me.

01:55:48.000 I kind of feel like, hey, at a certain point when someone says, we don't want you here, do you get the hint?

01:55:53.000 Maybe you should just go.

01:55:54.000 If the cops stood up last year, What's happening today wouldn't be happening.

01:56:00.000 These rides wouldn't be happening.

01:56:01.000 It's a wonderful life.

01:56:03.000 All right.

01:56:03.000 We got W Cash says, I'm a follower of the Daily Wire and Timcast.

01:56:06.000 Found out about you from the Joe Rogan Twitter podcast.

01:56:09.000 So glad I did.

01:56:10.000 When can one of the Daily Wire hosts join your podcast?

01:56:13.000 I'd love the range of ideas.

01:56:15.000 That's a great question.

01:56:16.000 Yeah?

01:56:17.000 I'm really curious when we might be able to do that.

01:56:20.000 I don't know the exact date though.

01:56:21.000 I do.

01:56:24.000 Is it soon?

01:56:24.000 It's the 23rd.

01:56:26.000 Oh really?

01:56:26.000 Yeah it is.

01:56:27.000 Oh that's really soon.

01:56:28.000 That's gonna be great.

01:56:29.000 I'm stoked and you guys don't know who it is.

01:56:33.000 Everyone's gonna just say it's Ben Shapiro.

01:56:34.000 Ah, nah.

01:56:35.000 All right.

01:56:35.000 Libertatum says cops enforce unconstitutional laws politicians push if they don't uphold their oath the

01:56:41.000 Constitution They must be removed and should be held liable just as

01:56:43.000 medical are to the Hippocratic Oath. I Think if a politician says officer violate the Constitution

01:56:49.000 the officer should say I can't do that. I I was told not to do that.

01:56:53.000 That's what it is in the military.

01:56:54.000 It's an unlawful order.

01:56:55.000 It's a duty to disobey.

01:56:57.000 Right.

01:56:58.000 Yeah.

01:56:58.000 What if we have states pass laws saying that if a police officer acts against the Constitution, that's a criminal charge?

01:57:04.000 Make a statutory law a criminal offense, a misdemeanor, for constitutional violation.

01:57:09.000 Yeah, I mean, you're going to have to develop case law though so the police know how to operate in high-stress, time-sensitive environments, right?

01:57:18.000 Yeah.

01:57:19.000 I mean, I take your point.

01:57:20.000 I mean, that still exists, right?

01:57:21.000 There's civil rights violations the FBI can investigate, but perhaps the balance of investigative interest is not where it should be.

01:57:30.000 Seth Shoemake says, looks like y'all are on track to hit a million before the weekend.

01:57:35.000 Thank you for being instrumental in turning the tide.

01:57:37.000 Special thanks to Ian for being the show's protagonist.

01:57:40.000 See the RLM definition.

01:57:42.000 What does that mean?

01:57:44.000 Thanks, dude.

01:57:47.000 Sergeant Wolf says, it's events like this with Dante Wright that make me want to be a cop, but it's also what make me never want to be a cop.

01:57:52.000 I want to help my community, but how can I do that if I'm going to be targeted or tar and feathered for it?

01:57:57.000 It's just really simple.

01:57:59.000 If you have a community, and a large portion, not the majority, but a large portion, I guess the plurality, is saying, down with cops!

01:58:06.000 Cops are bad!

01:58:07.000 The next larger group just says, we don't care.

01:58:11.000 We don't care about you at all.

01:58:13.000 Okay, well then the vote is in.

01:58:14.000 Abstained?

01:58:15.000 Cops are bad.

01:58:17.000 There you go.

01:58:17.000 Stop supporting those people.

01:58:19.000 The Civic Nationalist says, from one Brit to another, bet the weather ain't balls across the pond, but the Bobbies need better training. 1.00

01:58:26.000 Also tried to give the Yanks some bants, but you can leave it to the members bit.

01:58:30.000 God save the Queen. 1.00

01:58:31.000 Long live Britain. 0.81

01:58:33.000 Do you understand any of that?

01:58:34.000 Yeah, I understand a little bit.

01:58:37.000 I got police in mind.

01:58:38.000 Speaking Britain.

01:58:39.000 Yeah.

01:58:41.000 Guyton says, Tim, federalizing the police is a terrible outcome and the desired one if the police are no longer accountable to their local governments and communities.

01:58:48.000 I agree with that.

01:58:49.000 The challenge is, there are periods in which the federal government intervenes when people's rights aren't being upheld.

01:58:54.000 When extremists are burning down people's property, and your local government is laughing in your face, refusing to do anything, and supporting the extremists, that's when the federal government is supposed to come in to protect your rights.

01:59:05.000 So when the federal government deputized the state police, it was in protection of the rights of those who live there, not, you know, in contrary- Oppression.

01:59:14.000 Yeah, not oppression.

01:59:16.000 There was no usurpation involved, as far as I can tell.

01:59:20.000 Alright, Noah Poa says, my uncle got the Johnson & Johnson vaccine just some days ago.

01:59:24.000 He had a stroke due to blockage.

01:59:26.000 He has no history of blood issues.

01:59:27.000 It's kind of eye-opening when something perceived as rare happens to someone you know personally.

01:59:32.000 Was that registered as one of the cases?

01:59:34.000 Because you said uncle, and according to the news, it was only women. 0.85

01:59:37.000 I believe it was, what, eight women or something? 1.00

01:59:39.000 Mostly, yeah.

01:59:40.000 Five or six women, I think. 1.00

01:59:41.000 Okay, so maybe that was them.

01:59:44.000 Emily Mower says, look it up, Tim.

01:59:46.000 You don't know what you're talking about.

01:59:47.000 European Union equals confederal.

01:59:50.000 United States equals federal.

01:59:51.000 History books are written by the victors.

01:59:53.000 Okay.

01:59:55.000 Oh, I see.

01:59:55.000 Many, many, I don't get it.

01:59:58.000 Razgriz says I'm willing to compromise with Rashida Tlaib.

02:00:01.000 We can get rid of policing starting with the ATF.

02:00:04.000 The history of gun control is unironically a history of discrimination against freed slaves and other minorities.

02:00:09.000 Agreed?

02:00:10.000 Seconded.

02:00:11.000 Moving on.

02:00:12.000 No, I absolutely agree.

02:00:13.000 Yeah, I don't really understand why that, and the positive things that they do, which there are, I would see, you know, explosive, you know, terrorist groups, why that can't be enveloped into the FBI?

02:00:24.000 Yeah.

02:00:25.000 Break up the ATF.

02:00:26.000 Break it apart.

02:00:27.000 Alcohol and firearms.

02:00:28.000 Do you see that they're selling plush dogs?

02:00:31.000 The ATF announced their new store is up.

02:00:33.000 And then there's like a picture of like a shirt and then like a plush dog.

02:00:37.000 And I was going to tweet a joke about it, but I was like, it's too dark.

02:00:40.000 DHS is a big waste of money as well.

02:00:43.000 In what way?

02:00:44.000 Bureaucracy.

02:00:45.000 It slows down the process.

02:00:50.000 The counter-terrorism stuff they do, which is the sort of raison d'etre, is not well regarded in the intelligence community.

02:00:56.000 But are you saying like...

02:00:58.000 Bring all these departments under one, like run by the FBI?

02:01:01.000 Honestly, DHS, you could get rid of a lot of it because it's just replicating.

02:01:05.000 It's like the Director of National Intelligence.

02:01:07.000 You're replicating things and the idea that it's going to make, you know... But ICE and CBP are DHS.

02:01:13.000 Okay, so just have them without the superstructure of the DHS, right?

02:01:18.000 Have them as they were before DHS, which was what, 2003?

02:01:22.000 Doesn't it actually bring it all under one umbrella and easier to control when the departments are part of one agency instead of...

02:01:29.000 I don't think so.

02:01:29.000 And I think it creates you, you creating a management structure that goes above and beyond, you know, ice doesn't simply, it doesn't, you know, decision-making is slowed down because you can't, you've got to keep going up and you put the higher you go, the more political it becomes.

02:01:43.000 Sometimes you want these things just to be left to do to their own devices, unless they screw up.

02:01:47.000 This is a lot of what we heard from the squad to get rid of DHS and then pull these agencies out of them.

02:01:53.000 I mean, honestly.

02:01:55.000 Secret Service.

02:01:56.000 Put them back in the treasury.

02:01:58.000 If you have ICE functioning more independently, they could probably move more quickly, like you were saying.

02:02:02.000 Right.

02:02:04.000 All right, let's see.

02:02:05.000 Jason Dixon says, Doge broke 10 cents.

02:02:07.000 Diamond hands to the moon.

02:02:08.000 There you go.

02:02:11.000 All right.

02:02:13.000 JP McGlone says, Tim, I'll stand up with you.

02:02:15.000 Let's go.

02:02:15.000 All right, let's stand up.

02:02:16.000 All right, everybody stand up.

02:02:17.000 I'm kidding.

02:02:17.000 We're standing?

02:02:18.000 Okay, okay.

02:02:18.000 We're standing, everyone.

02:02:19.000 No more chairs on the Tim Gass Show.

02:02:22.000 Stron says, Tim, stop being lazy.

02:02:23.000 You have a dev team and a super chat problem.

02:02:26.000 If Biden dislikes can be tracked, you can have the super chats tracked and logged with your own program.

02:02:30.000 What does that reference to?

02:02:31.000 Hmm.

02:02:32.000 I don't know.

02:02:33.000 You have a dev super chat problem?

02:02:34.000 We do?

02:02:35.000 Oh, we can't get to all of them?

02:02:36.000 I don't know.

02:02:37.000 I mean, there's not enough time in the day to read every single super chat.

02:02:39.000 Is that the issue?

02:02:40.000 I entreat you to flesh out that comment because I want to know what you're talking about.

02:02:45.000 The God Pill says, Tim talking about standing up and doing something as he ignores the war that is GME and AMC, and Tim did nothing.

02:02:52.000 I did several segments on GameStop stonks, and we talked about it quite a bit.

02:02:57.000 Yeah, a lot.

02:02:58.000 We actually built a shirt.

02:02:59.000 Yeah, I literally have the Diamond Hands Gorilla shirt that we've been constantly talking about GameStop.

02:03:04.000 It's right there.

02:03:04.000 This is a misprint.

02:03:06.000 It's a misprint.

02:03:07.000 It's funny that we keep showing the misprint on the show.

02:03:10.000 But it's a gorilla holding cash because, you know, apes together strong. 0.59

02:03:14.000 Right, right.

02:03:15.000 I guess we did nothing, but we're good capitalists who made money on it.

02:03:22.000 Troy Dingman says, instead of cash bail, why don't they let off these nonviolent crimes with an ankle bracelet so they can track their movements?

02:03:29.000 And if they get caught, then you hold them.

02:03:30.000 That's what I was saying, right?

02:03:32.000 It's like, okay, we're not going to hold you, but you get an ankle bracelet and then you have a conditional release.

02:03:38.000 There you go.

02:03:39.000 I mean, but yeah, I mean, if you're sort of breaking into a car stuff that you should be, you know, bail, but doesn't mean, you know, you shouldn't face judicial consequences.

02:03:48.000 This is why body cameras are important.

02:03:49.000 You know why?

02:03:50.000 Because when this guy gets caught again on camera with a, you know, Slim Jim in a car, the cop can be like, I'm literally filming you do this.

02:03:58.000 You're not going to get You know, bailed out this time.

02:04:00.000 Exactly.

02:04:01.000 And good cops, that's why good cops like those cameras.

02:04:03.000 Yes.

02:04:04.000 Right.

02:04:04.000 And the reason they don't, if you talk to them, is that they're worried that, you know, when they're in the car, I mean, like, that, you know.

02:04:09.000 I can't speak for you.

02:04:10.000 Did you see that video of the cop planting drugs?

02:04:12.000 Yes.

02:04:13.000 He thought he was turning his camera off, but he turned it on.

02:04:15.000 Yes.

02:04:16.000 And then he planted drugs.

02:04:17.000 Dude.

02:04:18.000 That was Florida, I think, wasn't it?

02:04:20.000 I don't know.

02:04:20.000 I don't think so, yeah.

02:04:21.000 That's scary stuff, man.

02:04:22.000 And you wonder how much that's happened before.

02:04:24.000 That happens a lot.

02:04:26.000 What do you do when you're like minding your own business and a cop walks up to you and says, look what I found.

02:04:30.000 A cop that thinks the ends justify the means is terrifying.

02:04:33.000 Or they're just evil people who want to get the career marks and make money.

02:04:36.000 God, that's crazy. 0.84

02:04:37.000 Yeah, people, they're bad people, you know what I mean?

02:04:40.000 And that's why I think as well we do need to hire more public defenders, you know?

02:04:44.000 Because if that happens perhaps to one of us, you know, we might have the money to go and get a lawyer and to create public attention.

02:04:53.000 But if you're some kid who has no money, a public defender does not have enough time because then the cops can say, hey, plea it down to misdemeanor or whatever, take it.

02:05:01.000 Because I do not, I got to go and work on 50 other cases today.

02:05:05.000 Yeah, good point.

02:05:06.000 I heard that.

02:05:07.000 Sunny James says, so tired of manufactured outrage. 1.00

02:05:10.000 Is this what happens when a service economy dies?

02:05:12.000 Like open borders, people arguing for a two-state solution in Israel or green passports. 0.78

02:05:18.000 My mind can no longer vomit the hypocrisy up no more.

02:05:21.000 This was something Tucker Carlson covered.

02:05:23.000 Tucker Carlson did this big segment where he said, And he's basically saying, when immigrants come in, they're more likely to vote Democrat, and that means places like California, which were reliably Republican until, you know, 1988.

02:05:38.000 Became democrat, you know from 92 on and it's because they brought in more and more immigrants and Ronald Reagan was the one who signed it He got called the white white nationalist.

02:05:47.000 All these journalists are like he's clearly just the white nationalist Even though Tucker Carlson literally said black Americans are the most negatively impacted by the displacement the loss of jobs and immigration it's It's the propaganda.

02:06:00.000 But we saw in 2020, actually, Hispanic voters going much more for Trump than was anticipated.

02:06:05.000 Probably because of this, too.

02:06:06.000 But the interesting point that Tucker ends up bringing up is that the Anti-Defamation League themselves argue against the same thing for the same... They basically... You could take what the Anti-Defamation League said and claim it came from Tucker Carlson, and you'd be like, I believe it.

02:06:22.000 Because they were like, Israel should not allow Palestinians to come into their borders because it would displace the ethnic Jews from their state. 1.00

02:06:29.000 And it's like, okay.

02:06:31.000 And then they accused, they demanded Tucker Carlson quit or be fired for being a white nationalist when it's like, he just repeated what you guys said about Israel.

02:06:39.000 So it's clearly just an illegitimate argument.

02:06:42.000 All right, let's see where we're at.

02:06:45.000 Rain Miller says, Tim, I would love to hear you weigh on China flying 25 warplanes over Taiwan.

02:06:50.000 There are serious issues in Europe right now, too.

02:06:53.000 War with Russia and China under Biden is much more likely than before.

02:06:55.000 We will talk about that in the bonus segment coming up, because you're also a foreign policy guy.

02:06:59.000 Right.

02:07:00.000 So we have a lot to talk about with China, too.

02:07:02.000 All right, let's see what we got.

02:07:03.000 We will handle a few more of these superchats.

02:07:05.000 And Chris Rohrbach says, Ian, what are your thoughts on Dogecoin?

02:07:10.000 Well, it's kind of a comedy coin, but Lex Freeman and Elon Musk love it and tweet about it nonstop.

02:07:17.000 So I imagine it's a... I'm not much of a financial advisor, but, you know, the popular coins tend to go up in value.

02:07:25.000 Waffle Sensei says, Tim, if you coordinated to help start a legal defense group for inner city black gun ownership, the minds of these doublethinkers would explode and rip a tear in the multiverse.

02:07:38.000 Let's F get to it. 0.67

02:07:40.000 I'm not kidding.

02:07:41.000 Get some more UFOs then.

02:07:43.000 I'm absolutely serious.

02:07:44.000 No, I think it's a good idea.

02:07:46.000 I've reached out to some people.

02:07:47.000 Well, my issue for first is I don't want to only be racially targeted.

02:07:51.000 I don't want it to be like, oh, we're going to help inner city black youth about their guns.

02:07:55.000 I think it's just about people in cities whose only crime was possession of a firearm and defending them.

02:08:00.000 But I do think starting in Chicago would be very important.

02:08:03.000 Because like I said, I know people who are good people, good family people, and they're like, what am I supposed to do?

02:08:08.000 And that's so prohibitive there.

02:08:10.000 And the law-abiding citizens are like, OK, I won't get a gun.

02:08:12.000 And the gangs come out, shoot up houses, drive-bys.

02:08:15.000 Not even all gangs.

02:08:16.000 A lot of people are just reckless.

02:08:18.000 And so we want to defend the people with the right to keep and bear arms.

02:08:21.000 And that means even in their own home.

02:08:23.000 But the idea that they have to go through these laws or whatever, I think it would be fun to defend them.

02:08:27.000 And it'll be really, really fascinating to see how the Democratic politicians of Chicago handle defending this guy.

02:08:34.000 Like, we're going to take people and we're going to be like, here's a guy who works construction.

02:08:37.000 He's got two kids.

02:08:38.000 He's in his late 20s.

02:08:39.000 He has a wife.

02:08:39.000 He's trying his hardest to raise them right.

02:08:42.000 And he decided to protect himself because of the high gun crime in the city by getting himself a gun.

02:08:46.000 The Constitution says he can.

02:08:47.000 We're going to defend him all the way.

02:08:48.000 What are the, no, no, this man should be in prison.

02:08:51.000 His kids should go without a father.

02:08:53.000 I'd love to see him say that.

02:08:55.000 No, I think we'd actually help a lot of people.

02:08:56.000 I think the political pressure would result in a lot of these, a lot of these people having their charges dropped.

02:09:00.000 I don't know if the NRA does that.

02:09:02.000 I've heard stories where the NRA does in some cases, but typically it's like suburban women. 1.00

02:09:06.000 You know, those are the stories I end up hearing.

02:09:09.000 So I'm, I'm dead serious about that.

02:09:11.000 We'll see what we can end up pulling off.

02:09:14.000 All right, let's see.

02:09:16.000 Let's take this one.

02:09:17.000 We'll take one more.

02:09:19.000 Roy Cantor says, Tim, I've been watching some older vids.

02:09:21.000 When your ideology began to shift and the left started to turn on you, how did it make you feel?

02:09:25.000 And did you ever think about calling it quits?

02:09:27.000 What made you decide to keep going?

02:09:29.000 I don't think that my ideology shifted enough to where I ever actually cared about what they thought.

02:09:34.000 When I worked for Vice, Vice was a very libertarian place.

02:09:39.000 When I worked for Fusion, they claimed they were trying to be, and then they got woke.

02:09:43.000 I remember I made a video about why it was wrong to have... It was like, Harvard did a black-only graduation, and I was like, it's segregation, I don't like it.

02:09:51.000 And a bunch of people at Fusion got angry that I said this.

02:09:54.000 And they were complaining about it.

02:09:55.000 And I'm like, why?

02:09:56.000 Do you want to segregate the races?

02:09:58.000 Apparently they did!

02:09:59.000 So my positions have always been, you know, for the most part, in a similar place.

02:10:03.000 Now, there are some things I've... Like 2A for sure, I'm like very, very pro-gun these days.

02:10:08.000 So, you know, but the true left, they're pro-gun.

02:10:13.000 The authoritarian left is pro-gun because they needed to stage the revolution to install their utopian communist vision.

02:10:18.000 And the libertarian left is pro-gun because they want to tear down the system.

02:10:22.000 And the libertarian right is pro-gun because Second Amendment, Constitution, free markets and all that stuff.

02:10:28.000 The authoritarian right is anti-gun.

02:10:31.000 That's interesting.

02:10:32.000 Well, maybe not every authoritarian right.

02:10:34.000 It's like the center-right authoritarian spectrum of where the Democrats are.

02:10:38.000 They hate guns.

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02:11:16.000 No, I've really had a great time, and thank you for having me.

02:11:18.000 I mean, you've got a Twitter account?

02:11:20.000 Yeah, TomRTweets is my Twitter account, and yeah, I've just had fun.

02:11:23.000 This is great.

02:11:24.000 Right on.

02:11:24.000 I agree, man.

02:11:25.000 And I only wish we could have talked more about UFOs and UAPs, because I was jazzed for that part of the conversation.

02:11:31.000 But that's coming up in the Members Only session.

02:11:34.000 And I would say, just as a concluding comment though on that, you know, a lot of that stuff, right, is stuff, you know, to work on and produce and bring out, flesh out more.

02:11:44.000 So, you know, hopefully people won't, you know, just think, why is this guy just mouthing off all this stuff?

02:11:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:11:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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