Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Video Shows Biden Admin Smuggling Migrants Into Tennessee w-Will Chamberlain

00:00:00.000 video has surfaced of the Biden administration smuggling migrants into the United States.

00:00:29.000 children into Tennessee and many other southeastern states.

00:00:33.000 And I was a bit reticent to say smuggling, but I'm like, that's actually what he's doing.

00:00:38.000 A lot of these news outlets are like secretly transporting illegal immigrant children into these states without their knowledge.

00:00:46.000 And I'm like, that's extremely verbose for smuggling, which means to convey secretly or illicitly, which is what the Biden administration is doing right now.

00:00:54.000 They screwed up the borders so bad, and they are so desperate, they're literally just putting kids on planes and flying them out to random places.

00:01:02.000 Well, Tennessee politicians are really, really angry.

00:01:05.000 Like, yo, what are you doing?

00:01:07.000 This is crazy.

00:01:09.000 It is crazy.

00:01:09.000 It's extremely crazy.

00:01:10.000 We got some other stories, too.

00:01:12.000 The lab leak stuff is now going mainstream.

00:01:15.000 PolitiFact apparently now has semi-rescinded a fact check claiming that the COVID lab leak hypothesis was debunked.

00:01:23.000 Because now they're like, OK, well, it's not debunked.

00:01:26.000 They're undebunking.

00:01:27.000 Is that a word?

00:01:28.000 Undebunking.

00:01:30.000 PolitiFact is undebunked!

00:01:31.000 They're bunking it.

00:01:32.000 They're re-bunking it.

00:01:34.000 They've re-bunked!

00:01:36.000 I think it's re-bunk.

00:01:38.000 All right, so the LabLink hypothesis has been re-bunked by PolitiFact, and we definitely got to talk about it.

00:01:44.000 So joining us today is Will Chamberlain of Human Events.

00:01:48.000 How's it going?

00:01:49.000 I am Will Chamberlain, the co-publisher and... I don't know exactly what my editor title is.

00:01:55.000 We still need to figure that out, but I run the opinion side.

00:01:57.000 There you go.

00:01:59.000 And I also am senior counsel at the Internet Accountability Project, the Article 3 Project, and something new, the Unsilenced Majority, which is a new canceled culture group.

00:02:09.000 So, a cancel culture? 0.72

00:02:10.000 Anti-cancel culture.

00:02:12.000 Although, we do sort of are willing to cancel people who use cancel culture, which is, in my view, perhaps the most justified use of cancel culture.

00:02:19.000 Yeah, it's like using a flamethrower on a guy with a flamethrower, you know?

00:02:22.000 There you go.

00:02:22.000 That's allowed.

00:02:24.000 Yeah, and we hired Jack Kasso today, which I'm really happy about.

00:02:29.000 That was announced on Twitter.

00:02:32.000 We're stoked.

00:02:32.000 I mean, Jack, in my view, is not only a very good personal friend, but a very good journalist in his own right, and he doesn't get credit for it.

00:02:38.000 I mean, he had scoops on the Mueller investigation that no one else had, and they were confirmed by the New York Times three weeks later.

00:02:44.000 He's also a secret agent in a comic book.

00:02:46.000 Yes.

00:02:46.000 There you go.

00:02:47.000 He's like a really cool guy.

00:02:49.000 Yeah, he's a really good guy.

00:02:50.000 He wears a suit, so I just assumed he was, like, stodgy.

00:02:52.000 But then I met him, and I was like, I love you, dude.

00:02:56.000 The problem, I gained some weight, so I'm not wearing a suit properly.

00:02:59.000 But I had, like, nice custom suits.

00:03:00.000 You gotta drop some weight.

00:03:03.000 Yeah, that's what I gotta do.

00:03:05.000 We got Ian.

00:03:05.000 Oh, yeah, Ian Crossland.

00:03:06.000 What's up, guys?

00:03:07.000 You can always find me at iancrossland.net, but I'm happy to be here.

00:03:10.000 Very good.

00:03:11.000 I will also sing Jack's praises.

00:03:13.000 He is an awesome friend.

00:03:14.000 He's a cool source.

00:03:15.000 He always has really neat scoops.

00:03:17.000 And I'm excited that he's part of Human Events now.

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00:04:14.000 Let's jump into this first story, which, uh, honestly, I- I couldn't believe.

00:04:18.000 From WRCBTV, NBC.

00:04:21.000 Late night flights carrying migrant children arrive in Chattanooga.

00:04:25.000 Chattanooga's Wilson Air Center is receiving planes carrying migrant children who are being bused to multiple southeastern cities during overnight hours.

00:04:34.000 Let me just simplify it for you.

00:04:36.000 This is the Biden administration smuggling migrant children into the central US, into these southeastern states and cities.

00:04:45.000 They say, Channel 3 obtained video of one of those planes arriving Friday, May 14th, shortly before 1.30 a.m.

00:04:53.000 A second video shared with Channel 3 shows more children arriving late Saturday night.

00:04:57.000 According to the source who provided the video, a third plane carrying children arrived Friday afternoon.

00:05:03.000 Flight records confirm that a fourth plane arrived early Wednesday morning, May 19th.

00:05:08.000 This is amazing.

00:05:09.000 Did anybody approve this?

00:05:10.000 Does anybody know about this?

00:05:12.000 I mean, I'm sure it was approved by someone in the Department of Homeland Security.

00:05:17.000 You can bet that after the kids in cages debacle, with the five-fold increase in illegal immigration to start the term, that somebody in the Biden administration was told that under no circumstances were there to be more photos of kids piled up in cages with space blankets.

00:05:32.000 So now they got videos of kids being shuffled into planes and flown out to random cities.

00:05:37.000 How about that?

00:05:38.000 Probably better optically, oddly enough.

00:05:41.000 Right?

00:05:41.000 Like, if we're just trying to avoid the really, you know, image that will disturb Joe Biden voters, it would be the one of them being near the border.

00:05:50.000 So, out of sight, out of mind, right?

00:05:52.000 As long as they're... This is... I'm sorry, man.

00:05:55.000 This is apocalyptically bad, in my opinion.

00:05:57.000 This is a hundredfold worse than kids in cages.

00:06:01.000 They're just like, okay, we don't want the kids to be in the cages, so put them on a plane, fly them out to Tennessee, put them on a bus, and ship off to a group home.

00:06:09.000 Everything about the Biden policy, it's like the maximum amount of immorality that you could do with immigration policy, right?

00:06:17.000 Like, if they had done open borders, that would be less immoral.

00:06:20.000 And if they had gone full border closure, that would be less immoral.

00:06:23.000 They have managed to find the uncanny valley of the worst possible policy, which is, again, I mean, so in tort law, there's something called, I don't know if I talked about this before, but attractive nuisance.

00:06:35.000 So, attractive nuisance, you know, normally if somebody trespasses on your land and gets hurt, you're not liable.

00:06:35.000 No, what is that?

00:06:41.000 They trespassed.

00:06:42.000 But, if you have something on your land, like a broken merry-go-round or something.

00:06:46.000 What about an apple tree?

00:06:48.000 Or, who knows?

00:06:48.000 It could be anything, but like something that attracts children.

00:06:51.000 Yeah.

00:06:51.000 Right?

00:06:52.000 And it leads the children to trespass and they get hurt.

00:06:55.000 Even though they're trespassing, you are liable.

00:06:57.000 That's BS.

00:06:59.000 But I knew about this because I'm a skateboarder.

00:07:02.000 So, at the mini ramp back in Philly, we had a no skateboarding sign on it.

00:07:07.000 So we're like, no trespassing, and then no skateboarding allowed.

00:07:09.000 Right.

00:07:10.000 So, attractive nuisance.

00:07:12.000 Basically, our border is an attractive nuisance, right?

00:07:14.000 The promise of getting citizenship or the ability to work in the United States is what attracts people, and the nuisance part is the fact that people are having to go through this unbelievably difficult journey in order to get it.

00:07:25.000 Right there, you know crossing, you know finding themselves in the hands of drug cartels and human traffickers

00:07:30.000 Uh going through very dangerous journeys crossing the Rio Grande all this sort of nonsense

00:07:35.000 Um, so we're we're responsible I guess. Yeah, like the the the biden administration

00:07:39.000 I think you know, I mean the trump administration had the you know a much more moral policy which is actual deterrence,

00:07:45.000 Like, Australia had a similar dynamic.

00:07:45.000 right?

00:07:45.000 Right?

00:07:47.000 Remember when Trump said he wanted moats full of alligators?

00:07:50.000 Yeah.

00:07:50.000 I'm kidding.

00:07:51.000 He didn't really say that, but they claimed he did.

00:07:53.000 That's good enough.

00:07:53.000 I mean, it is moral to deter people from engaging in a dangerous journey.

00:07:58.000 Didn't it talk about, like, lasers or something, too?

00:08:00.000 Yeah, sure.

00:08:01.000 I mean, you know, Australia had this problem when they had boat people coming from, like, Fiji and islands surrounding it. 0.82

00:08:07.000 And they had all these drownings, right?

00:08:09.000 Tons of drownings in the boats off of Australia.

00:08:11.000 And they said, They just had a huge policy.

00:08:13.000 It's like, if you get here on a boat, you're not gonna be able to stay.

00:08:15.000 Period.

00:08:16.000 And stop.

00:08:16.000 Change the law.

00:08:17.000 What if you have a merry-go-round?

00:08:18.000 And a moat full of alligators?

00:08:20.000 If the kids fall in the moat full of alligators?

00:08:22.000 Is it a nuisance or a deterrent?

00:08:23.000 Like, am I in trouble?

00:08:25.000 I don't think attractive nuisance would come into play.

00:08:27.000 That would probably be still a crime.

00:08:31.000 I would say so, yeah.

00:08:32.000 Because you're, you know, there's... I don't remember exactly what the law is, but you're not, for example, you can't set up, like, trap guns in your house.

00:08:38.000 You can see the alligators, bro.

00:08:40.000 I understand that you can see them, but the idea is you can't set up intentionally fatal traps on your property.

00:08:48.000 Because you will be liable if someone kills themselves.

00:08:52.000 So move to Florida where there's naturally occurring moats full of alligators. 0.99

00:08:55.000 Look, I don't think...

00:08:58.000 The naturally occurring moats for alligators, that's a good liability question.

00:09:02.000 Do you have to remediate that?

00:09:04.000 I don't know.

00:09:04.000 I don't know the answer to that.

00:09:05.000 Well, anyway, more to the point, this is crazy.

00:09:10.000 I knew Biden, his policies were in the gutter and everything was falling apart, but this is a whole new level of bad.

00:09:15.000 It's like, in the middle of the night, taking these unaccompanied children and shuffling them off to who knows where.

00:09:22.000 How insane.

00:09:23.000 So not only did Joe Biden create a pull factor by getting rid of Donald Trump's Remain-in-Mexico policies, so now it's like, come on in, catch and release.

00:09:33.000 These some of the many of these people who had COVID were being released into Texas when American

00:09:37.000 citizens couldn't even legally cross the border. Then Joe Biden reopens the Homestead facility.

00:09:43.000 Look, I get it. You got a bunch of kids. You created a problem. You need a place to put them.

00:09:46.000 But let's be real. Trump shut that facility down. They were complaining about it. Joe Biden's

00:09:52.000 attractive was attractive, attractive nuisance. Yes. Hold these people created a poll factor, 0.81

00:09:57.000 which we've heard about in the news all over and over again.

00:09:59.000 So he reopens the child concentration camps.

00:10:03.000 AOC's words, not mine.

00:10:04.000 And then he expands the McAllen facility, so now he's got a bunch of kids sleeping in the dirt.

00:10:09.000 That's bad.

00:10:10.000 And now, because the videos are bad enough, and there's still more kids coming, just shuffle them off, who knows where.

00:10:17.000 That's depravity.

00:10:19.000 When you say pull factor, you mean like it's pulling people in?

00:10:21.000 Yes.

00:10:22.000 So when people shut up with shirts saying, please let us in Biden, Donald Trump was like, you can't come to our border.

00:10:27.000 We'll shut it down.

00:10:28.000 No, no, excuse me.

00:10:30.000 You stay in Mexico. 0.84

00:10:31.000 They're like, people got scared.

00:10:33.000 If we try and go, we'll get arrested and then sent back.

00:10:35.000 And people were worried that if they went from like, you know, um, Bolivia or something or Columbia, they'd come up, get sent back all the way to South America.

00:10:43.000 And they're like, it's probably better staying just in Tijuana or something.

00:10:46.000 With Joe Biden, he's like, come on, man, we've got to get rid of these policies. 0.99

00:10:49.000 You know, Trump, he's a Nazi. 0.77

00:10:51.000 And so then he gets rid of them all. 0.96

00:10:52.000 And then people start rushing the border again.

00:10:54.000 Now it's created a massive surge.

00:10:57.000 It's happening, what, like two months earlier.

00:11:00.000 So Joe Biden tried claiming it's seasonal.

00:11:02.000 It's just seasonal migration.

00:11:04.000 And it's like, bro, this is two months earlier than seasonal migration.

00:11:06.000 No, you've created a pull effect.

00:11:07.000 Your policies are awful.

00:11:08.000 Trump had it functioning not perfectly.

00:11:11.000 It spiked huge under Trump.

00:11:13.000 But they had policies and they were pushing back.

00:11:15.000 Biden makes it worse. 0.78

00:11:16.000 This is, man, this is nuts.

00:11:18.000 It's not seasonal.

00:11:19.000 It's global.

00:11:20.000 The economy is trembling and people are fleeing their South American homeland.

00:11:25.000 A lot of people are.

00:11:26.000 Not even just South America.

00:11:27.000 I saw an article that said, like, you had European economic migrants, African economic migrants crossing the southern border.

00:11:34.000 And that's what it is.

00:11:35.000 I mean, I saw that, like, there was some article that tried to be like people, refugees from countries hard hit by COVID.

00:11:41.000 I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:11:42.000 That's not a refugee. 1.00

00:11:43.000 No, no, no.

00:11:43.000 That's a migrant.

00:11:44.000 An economic migrant.

00:11:45.000 And they're not fleeing.

00:11:46.000 They're migrating.

00:11:47.000 Yeah, they're migrating.

00:11:49.000 Well, I suppose the easiest thing you can do is put them on buses and planes and just, I don't know, random places.

00:11:53.000 Yeah, in a way it makes sense.

00:11:55.000 Like, they're clearing up the space.

00:11:56.000 Although, but the problem then is they're doing it, they try to seem like they want to do it covertly.

00:12:00.000 Yeah, it's called smuggling.

00:12:02.000 Illicitly transporting people.

00:12:04.000 I mentioned earlier that it sounds like it's a conspiracy.

00:12:07.000 Like, they would be charged with conspiracy because they're transporting known illegal immigrants across state borders. 0.64

00:12:13.000 They committed a crime.

00:12:15.000 They're aiding and abetting criminals.

00:12:17.000 I mean, you know, there's almost certainly some sort of affirmative defense doing so under color of law with the order, you know, order from the executive branch.

00:12:24.000 And there's some, probably some statutory authority.

00:12:27.000 You know that we already have kids in like orphanages and group homes who need loving parents and are being tossed about the system.

00:12:33.000 The last thing we need is for Biden to screw everything up and then just shuffle people under the rug.

00:12:38.000 That's, that's sickening.

00:12:39.000 It's just why we don't elect Democrats.

00:12:40.000 It's like why responsible people don't, don't let Democrats run things.

00:12:43.000 Well, that's why this is so immoral.

00:12:45.000 Yeah, but come on, man.

00:12:47.000 The Republican Party.

00:12:50.000 I tweeted, we need a commission of medical experts and scientists to figure out how several invertebrates and terrestrial land snails, terrestrial snails, somehow managed to imitate English speech, join the Republican Party and get elected to office.

00:13:05.000 Invertebrates, yes.

00:13:06.000 Yeah.

00:13:06.000 Yes.

00:13:07.000 I mean, we're talking about January 6th commission and 30, 35.

00:13:07.000 Yeah.

00:13:11.000 But come on, it's not even that.

00:13:12.000 I mean, Mitch McConnell pretends to fight.

00:13:15.000 Look at what's going on because of the fecklessness of the Republican Party.

00:13:18.000 Now, I get it.

00:13:19.000 A speed bump is better than nothing.

00:13:21.000 But that's what the Republican Party is at this point.

00:13:23.000 They're a speed bump for Democrats.

00:13:24.000 Oh, Democrats gotta slow down a little bit. 0.56

00:13:27.000 They're making too much money.

00:13:28.000 I can't stand these people.

00:13:30.000 I don't want to lose faith in the system.

00:13:31.000 I don't want to lose faith in the American government.

00:13:34.000 Because that could be the beginning of the end, or the end of the end, of the system.

00:13:38.000 But they're making so much money that just talking to each other every day and not getting much done is enough for them.

00:13:47.000 The Democrats are beholden to zealots.

00:13:50.000 Let's be real.

00:13:51.000 No way.

00:13:53.000 Absolutely not.

00:13:54.000 They kick out their zealots.

00:13:56.000 Steve King.

00:13:57.000 He gets booted from all of his committees and then he loses his primary because nobody wanted to hear what he had to say.

00:14:01.000 Democrats.

00:14:01.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:14:02.000 Ilhan Omar gets protected by Nancy Pelosi.

00:14:05.000 So the Democrats, for what it's worth, they got spines in spades.

00:14:10.000 They will scream at the top of their lungs.

00:14:12.000 They will bang on the doors of the Supreme Court.

00:14:15.000 They will storm into the Senate buildings.

00:14:18.000 And the media does nothing.

00:14:19.000 Because their friends have spines in media, got the jobs, took over the institutions, and protect them.

00:14:19.000 Why?

00:14:26.000 Has it always been like this?

00:14:28.000 It's just now there's social media, so we see it?

00:14:31.000 I mean, to a degree.

00:14:33.000 You know, there was a time when it was, there was actual, like, public cachet in being Republican, and I think the Iraq War really destroyed that.

00:14:40.000 Right?

00:14:40.000 Like the, I'd say that, you know, 2000 era, I mean, it's still Republicans were, like, the majority and dominant in the culture, but at least Didn't they lose the Congress for like 40 years?

00:14:51.000 Yeah, they did, but it was really bad for a while, but then it's a very different country, and that Democratic coalition looks very different.

00:15:00.000 I just look at where we're at right now with Democrats, and Ilhan Omar can just shriek, and they're like, whatever you say, and the Republicans just go, okay.

00:15:10.000 And then Marjorie Taylor Greene, like two years ago, posted some dumb stuff on Facebook, and they're like, get rid of the banner from everything.

00:15:16.000 She didn't even say those things while she was a member of Congress.

00:15:18.000 Yeah, something like, and a bunch of Republicans flipped, you know, went over on that one too.

00:15:21.000 I mean, we had something like a dozen Republicans decide they were gonna vote, you know, against their own member having committee seats.

00:15:29.000 The Republican Party is the jellyfish party.

00:15:30.000 It's just, I mean, so many of these people need to be replaced and bullied more effectively.

00:15:36.000 Like, there's a lack of bullying.

00:15:38.000 Politically bullied.

00:15:38.000 Yes, politically bullied.

00:15:39.000 I agree.

00:15:39.000 Like, people need to show up and protest these 35 jellyfish.

00:15:43.000 Or are they just the oligarch party?

00:15:43.000 Yeah.

00:15:45.000 No, no, no.

00:15:46.000 The Republicans, I think, are like... You ever see... This is the way I described it earlier.

00:15:51.000 You ever see the movie, This is the End?

00:15:53.000 No, I hear it's great, though.

00:15:54.000 So, Danny McBride gets kicked out of the house.

00:15:54.000 I've seen it.

00:15:57.000 And then later on, they find him and he's a cannibal.

00:15:59.000 And then he has that actor.

00:16:00.000 I can't remember the actor's name.

00:16:01.000 Is James Franco's in it?

00:16:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:03.000 Seth Rogen's in it, but that's all I know.

00:16:04.000 He has that actor.

00:16:07.000 What's that actor's name?

00:16:08.000 He was in G.I.

00:16:08.000 Joe.

00:16:09.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:16:11.000 Negative.

00:16:11.000 Chad something?

00:16:11.000 No.

00:16:12.000 I can't remember his name.

00:16:13.000 a gimp so he's like on all fours and crawling around and Danny McBride is a 1.00

00:16:13.000 Wow. 1.00

00:16:13.000 Jesus. 1.00

00:16:17.000 cannibal that's the Republican Party is the gimp in the in the in this in the 0.75

00:16:21.000 suit well and Danny McBride is Democratic Party it is shelled out now

00:16:24.000 now to be fair like they're like ten Republicans that are fighters you know

00:16:28.000 Donald Trump was a fighter Donald Trump grabbed the party and yanked it really

00:16:31.000 hard and as people liked so I tweeted I tweet something like the Republican

00:16:36.000 Party or jellyfish and then I got a response from someone who said all right 0.96

00:16:41.000 I said yeah they said the Republican Party attracts the losers and I said 0.96

00:16:45.000 that's right if somebody wanted to lie cheat and steal to gain power they 0.69

00:16:49.000 wouldn't pick the Republican Party the Democratic Party You know, so that's effectively what we're seeing. 0.98

00:16:55.000 The people who are manipulative and deceitful and evil join the Democrats and then just burn things down and strip and extract and manipulate the ignorant. 0.97

00:17:03.000 It's real easy to get a vote when you're a Democrat. 0.99

00:17:04.000 You just go up to somebody and say, hey, I'll give you his money.

00:17:07.000 And they're like, deal.

00:17:08.000 And the Republicans are like, personal responsibility.

00:17:11.000 You gotta work hard and meritocracy.

00:17:12.000 I'm like, pfft.

00:17:14.000 That sounds like work!

00:17:15.000 So people vote for not work.

00:17:17.000 So you end up with a Republican party that's just, like, a speed bump.

00:17:23.000 No one's fighting for anything.

00:17:24.000 What are they fighting for other than, Democrats don't do that.

00:17:28.000 Democrats, don't you do that! 0.94

00:17:29.000 What do you stand for?

00:17:30.000 Yeah, I mean, for a long time, this has been a long-term frustration.

00:17:33.000 I mean, I remember trying to push for social media regulation, because, like, we obviously needed it.

00:17:38.000 The companies were controlled by the Democrats, they were censoring conservatives.

00:17:41.000 And they're like, well, no, but the free market, it's like, okay.

00:17:45.000 And now every, you know, two years later when we've lost power, everybody's like, oh, that was a good idea.

00:17:48.000 Well, we should totally have done that.

00:17:49.000 Can't count on them.

00:17:52.000 Can't count on them.

00:17:53.000 We're seeing some, I mean, I'm seeing some good signs of some of them, like, you know, we'll get into the seize the endowments thing that Cotton's doing later.

00:18:00.000 Tom Cotton's doing that?

00:18:01.000 Well, he's going to tax them.

00:18:01.000 Tom Cotton.

00:18:02.000 So, you know, a step in the right direction.

00:18:05.000 You know.

00:18:06.000 Taxation is theft.

00:18:07.000 Seize it.

00:18:08.000 I get worked up about freedom.

00:18:10.000 Free trade, free market, free freedom.

00:18:11.000 We'll get into that later.

00:18:12.000 I get worked up about freedom, like free trade, free,

00:18:16.000 free market, free freedom, because it's not doesn't mean that

00:18:20.000 there's no interference.

00:18:22.000 If you know the reason that we have a free society is because we interfere

00:18:26.000 We create order.

00:18:27.000 We create police that say, you can't walk there at this time.

00:18:31.000 Stay there.

00:18:32.000 Don't do this.

00:18:32.000 Do this.

00:18:33.000 So now we have freedom as a result.

00:18:33.000 Don't do this.

00:18:36.000 You're not going to get jumped and murdered when you're walking around.

00:18:38.000 So you're essentially free.

00:18:40.000 No, it doesn't mean that it has no rules.

00:18:42.000 So it's the free market is the same way.

00:18:43.000 If you don't put place rules on the system, that's not run away.

00:18:47.000 But by that logic, prison is freedom.

00:18:49.000 That's not true.

00:18:50.000 Well, a prisoner has a sort of freedom.

00:18:54.000 Healthcare?

00:18:55.000 Guaranteed food?

00:18:56.000 A place to live?

00:18:56.000 Right, they have food.

00:18:57.000 That's not freedom, bro.

00:18:58.000 Technically, they're not going to get jumped and murdered because the guards are watching them.

00:19:01.000 Well, they're not supposed to because the guards are watching.

00:19:01.000 Yeah, they will.

00:19:03.000 It's not freedom.

00:19:03.000 The rules don't make you free.

00:19:06.000 You need to be responsible for yourself.

00:19:07.000 No, it doesn't.

00:19:08.000 Yeah, I think the United States... Bro, they ban guns. 0.71

00:19:10.000 People still go out with guns and kill people.

00:19:12.000 The law of the land, though, gives us an opportunity to create freedom for ourselves.

00:19:15.000 If there was no law, we would not be in a free society.

00:19:18.000 Some laws make sense and a lot of them don't.

00:19:20.000 Yes.

00:19:21.000 I definitely agree with that.

00:19:22.000 Let me tell you, what we're seeing right now with this migrant thing is bad, but I'll tell you how bad it gets. 1.00

00:19:26.000 This is another huge story.

00:19:27.000 Honestly, I didn't know which story to lead with, because we got a bunch of just psychotic stories.

00:19:32.000 Tulsa residents won't be able to pay utility bills for three weeks after ransomware attack like Colonial Pipeline Outage, and it's claimed insurance giant CNA paid $40 million extortion fee.

00:19:45.000 Tulsa officials said the city system was also targeted by ransomware.

00:19:49.000 That hack means residents won't be able to pay utilities for three weeks.

00:19:52.000 Maybe a good thing for those residents.

00:19:54.000 I assume once the three weeks kicks back on, they're still going to owe all that money.

00:19:58.000 Maybe even with late fees, I wouldn't be surprised.

00:20:00.000 They say it comes after Colonial Pipeline admitted to paying a $4.4 million ransom.

00:20:04.000 It's amazing leadership.

00:20:05.000 I'm glad that the FBI is trying to find that fat guy in the Wrigley shirt from January 6th.

00:20:10.000 And we got our cities being attacked by hackers and shutting down our utilities.

00:20:14.000 Bravo, good sirs!

00:20:16.000 Keep it up! 0.98

00:20:17.000 And we'll find out who that fat guy in the Trump hat is. 0.99

00:20:20.000 That guy should go to jail, right? 0.98

00:20:21.000 Was he the hacker? 0.99

00:20:22.000 No, he's just some fat guy who walked in the building. 0.75

00:20:24.000 Dude, so who is the C- what are they called? 1.00

00:20:26.000 C?

00:20:27.000 CNA.

00:20:27.000 And this is an insurance company that paid out $40 million?

00:20:31.000 $40 million extortion fee.

00:20:33.000 It's gonna keep happening.

00:20:35.000 Because, as Lydia pointed out in that Instagram video, the Russian military commercial is like, it's all dark and it's like, It's just navel-gazing.

00:20:45.000 I can't what they're saying in Russian, but it's like a guy and he's like looking with his brow down and they jump out

00:20:49.000 with Parachutes and they land in the ground and they got bolt-action

00:20:51.000 rifles for some reason. I don't know. They're using bolt-action sure and

00:20:54.000 Then it switches to the American one and it's like a Disney cartoon about two moms or something

00:20:59.000 It's like that's what America presents to the world. It's just weakness. It's like in this sort of self-obsession

00:21:06.000 They're so obsessed the internal dynamics of their companies and institutions that they forget that they're

00:21:11.000 there to like perform a function in our society and be competent at it.

00:21:15.000 I...

00:21:17.000 And I mean, we can talk about how wokeness is toxic in any number of ways, but one of them is this just fundamental distraction from the core mission that these people... I don't want to hear about... I don't care about your identity if you're working for the FBI.

00:21:31.000 I want to hear that you're stopping ransomware attacks.

00:21:34.000 Yes!

00:21:35.000 So this is the problem when you talk about the rules, and the rules are supposed to create freedom.

00:21:39.000 What happens is they create rules, and then the zealots who gain control of the institutions enforce them against their enemies.

00:21:39.000 They don't.

00:21:46.000 Meanwhile, these hacks are happening, and where's our law enforcement?

00:21:50.000 Where's Cyber Command?

00:21:52.000 To be defending us, to allow us to live in that beautiful freedom we're supposed to get with our taxpayer dollars going to these institutions.

00:21:58.000 Instead, they get shut down.

00:22:00.000 I get it.

00:22:01.000 It's hard to defend against these things.

00:22:03.000 But don't come to me complaining about the fat guy in a Trump hat and then creating a 9-11 style commission on January 6th when you can't defend your own cities.

00:22:14.000 Who hacked?

00:22:14.000 Do they have any ideas?

00:22:15.000 Where they were from or anything?

00:22:17.000 I don't know.

00:22:19.000 It makes me think that they just don't have the ability.

00:22:20.000 It's probably the same group.

00:22:22.000 We don't know for sure.

00:22:23.000 We know that Darkseid, the hacker group, made like 90 million dollars.

00:22:26.000 Why would you ever stop doing this?

00:22:28.000 Of course.

00:22:29.000 Why would you stop?

00:22:30.000 There's absolutely no incentive not to do this again and again.

00:22:33.000 Yeah, if you've got a friendly sovereign, that's all you need.

00:22:35.000 You know what I would've done?

00:22:36.000 You know what I would've done if I was Colonial Pipeline?

00:22:39.000 If I got that thing and it was like, yo, we're gonna lock down your pipeline, unless you pass five million dollars, you know what I'd do?

00:22:44.000 I'd be like, alright.

00:22:46.000 Alright, hacker.

00:22:47.000 Do it.

00:22:48.000 Do it.

00:22:49.000 Shut it down. 0.59

00:22:51.000 Get 40, 50 million people ready to hunt you down and take you out.

00:22:55.000 You want to live in luxury?

00:22:57.000 You want five million dollars?

00:22:58.000 I'm sure you want to buy yourself a nice little Lambo in an infinity pool.

00:23:00.000 How about that? 1.00

00:23:01.000 How about instead I send 60 million people down on your ass because you shut down their pipeline? 0.99

00:23:06.000 How about we get the federal government to send some black helicopters to find out where you're at and shut you down? 1.00

00:23:12.000 You want to live wealthy?

00:23:13.000 This ain't the way to do it.

00:23:14.000 Bring it on, buddy.

00:23:14.000 Instead they go, Please just give us back our pipeline.

00:23:18.000 We'll give you whatever you want.

00:23:19.000 It's because, morally, I think that's justified.

00:23:21.000 You'd be the hero in the movie.

00:23:22.000 But if you were the CEO of the company and you let them shut it down and your company lost $60 million in revenue as a result, you'd get fired as CEO the next day.

00:23:31.000 Don't care.

00:23:31.000 So what?

00:23:32.000 I don't care.

00:23:33.000 And you know what I would do?

00:23:35.000 When they announced, we are terminating CEO Tim Pool immediately, I'd say, press conference, I do not negotiate with terrorists.

00:23:41.000 If you want to nuke our cities and shut down our pipelines, we will come for you, we will find you, and you will regret it.

00:23:47.000 Oil companies are not like all, you know, Blackwater capable of launching their own military.

00:23:53.000 I'm not saying they are gonna.

00:23:54.000 I'm saying when you... Shutting down the largest pipeline in the U.S.

00:23:57.000 was an attack on this country.

00:23:59.000 It's true.

00:23:59.000 And instead of the U.S.

00:24:00.000 government saying, we are going to hunt you down and make you regret this choice, we paid them!

00:24:07.000 We paid them! 0.98

00:24:08.000 And then they make 90 million dollars.

00:24:11.000 These guys are kicking back pina coladas in Antalya somewhere on the beach with a bunch of other Russian tourists.

00:24:18.000 Congratulations.

00:24:19.000 We're probably planning the next one.

00:24:20.000 Oh yeah, the new name!

00:24:21.000 Like if they printed the funny money, now they're just giving it away.

00:24:25.000 Ransomware probably took them a week to make.

00:24:28.000 You have to act swift and hard against people like that.

00:24:30.000 It is international financial terrorism, you know, and even beyond financial terrorism, because you're cutting off people's access to heat.

00:24:37.000 Yes, and Tim, this is what you learned in what was it, I forget, that class that you took.

00:24:42.000 What's it called?

00:24:43.000 Where you're going into like oppositional places.

00:24:45.000 Hostile environment training?

00:24:46.000 Yeah, hostile environment training.

00:24:47.000 They talk about how the U.S.

00:24:50.000 Americans don't get kidnapped.

00:24:51.000 Right.

00:24:51.000 Because the U.S.

00:24:53.000 does not negotiate.

00:24:54.000 Yeah, this is what the... So when I went through the hostile environment training, they did a simulated kidnapping.

00:24:58.000 It was really fun.

00:24:59.000 It was so much fun.

00:25:00.000 It was like role-playing.

00:25:02.000 They give us this mission.

00:25:03.000 They're like, hey, you're gonna get in this van and you're gonna go and do an interview with this leader of like a terror organization or whatever.

00:25:08.000 And then the van gets, like, surrounded, and then you hear, like, fake guns go off.

00:25:12.000 And then they grab you, and they put a bag over your head, and they zip-tie it or something.

00:25:15.000 It's, like, a cloth bag.

00:25:16.000 You can breathe just fine.

00:25:17.000 And then, like, you can't see where you're going, and they bring you.

00:25:20.000 There's, like, a bunch of weird noises.

00:25:21.000 It was so much fun!

00:25:23.000 Like, I knew where they were bringing us, because they didn't have, like, a big facility.

00:25:27.000 But you could hear, like, metal clanking, and, like, muttering, and, like, yelling, and then, like, guns being messed with.

00:25:33.000 And then they make you stand upright against the wall for two hours.

00:25:36.000 It felt like ten minutes.

00:25:36.000 It was crazy.

00:25:38.000 I was just standing there for two hours.

00:25:40.000 Then they bring you in a room and they put a light right in front of your face and point it at you.

00:25:43.000 And then you can only see the waist down of these guys who are, with an accent, asking you questions.

00:25:47.000 It was a whole lot of fun.

00:25:49.000 Afterwards, they explained to us that this was a kidnapping scenario, where if you're a journalist in a hostile territory, this is what might happen to you.

00:25:56.000 After everyone got interrogated, they make everyone stand against the wall again, and then all of a sudden you hear the door go BOOM, and then you hear gunshots, and then you hear like, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, NOW, NOW!

00:26:07.000 GET ON THE GROUND, EVERYONE, NOW!

00:26:08.000 And we all get on the ground, PUT YOUR HANDS ON YOUR HEAD, NOW!

00:26:10.000 And then the guys pick us up, walk us out, take the bag, it was so much fun.

00:26:15.000 They told us.

00:26:16.000 When you get kidnapped, you gotta just try and survive.

00:26:20.000 Because the U.S. 0.56

00:26:21.000 does not negotiate with terrorists. 0.94

00:26:23.000 Which means, these guys who kidnap you can only expect a helicopter to fly overhead, dudes jump out, and they'll kill each and every one of you in the building, and your families. 0.86

00:26:32.000 So if you kidnap an American, you better apologize and let him go. 0.98

00:26:36.000 But Germany and Spain pay out instantly.

00:26:39.000 So when it comes to people in these territories in the Middle East, they love it when they find someone speaking German or Spanish.

00:26:44.000 They're like, free money!

00:26:45.000 We're gonna make ourselves 4 million bucks!

00:26:47.000 The American guy, they're like, you better think twice about this.

00:26:50.000 The problem was ISIS didn't care. 1.00

00:26:52.000 They were at war, and they didn't want money.

00:26:53.000 They had ideology.

00:26:54.000 So if they found out you were American, they were like, good. 1.00

00:26:57.000 So depending on which country, that's the point.

00:27:00.000 What we've done now in the US, we've got bad leadership.

00:27:04.000 Sorry, it's true.

00:27:05.000 Not like Trump was perfect, but the biggest pipeline in the country gets hacked.

00:27:10.000 And then DarkSide, the company that made the malware, was like, we didn't intend to do that!

00:27:13.000 Which shows exactly why what I'm saying works.

00:27:16.000 You come out and say, the hacker group DarkSide did this, find them, they're responsible.

00:27:22.000 What do you think would happen if all the gas prices skyrocketed, gas shortages sweep across the southeastern US, you got 60 million people begging Joe Biden for war?

00:27:31.000 Yeah, the Russian government would be like, uh, we're gonna lock these guys up.

00:27:35.000 I mean, I get all that, but I also just am like, I don't know that as a company CEO, as distinct from like a president, you can actually, you know, make that decision.

00:27:43.000 Or that that decision's really yours to make, right?

00:27:45.000 To pay the terrorists?

00:27:47.000 To not pay them, right?

00:27:48.000 And then essentially force 60 million people to go without oil or something like that.

00:27:52.000 Who decides to pay them?

00:27:54.000 And who decides to not pay them?

00:27:54.000 You do.

00:27:56.000 Right, but like, I'm saying that you are not like an elected official that, as a moral matter, you shouldn't be in the situation where you are in a position to get the oil pipeline running for a reasonable cost, and you decide not to do it.

00:28:11.000 They should have been able to go to the government and say, it's in your hands, we're not paying.

00:28:15.000 I mean, that was always their option.

00:28:16.000 I just, I think... They paid me for three hours.

00:28:18.000 I can understand why they paid.

00:28:19.000 You know, like, the consequences of not... I mean, we saw what happened with, like, the oil shutdown turned down for a week.

00:28:24.000 We had a massive shortage.

00:28:26.000 Yep, good.

00:28:27.000 People need to start, like, respecting responsibility and understanding what it means to be a part of a country, to be a citizen, and be responsible for the people who live here.

00:28:39.000 What's happening now is, someone says, for the betterment of myself, I would rather sacrifice the betterment of the nation.

00:28:47.000 You know, it's like, you know, ask not what you can do for your country, but what you can do... My word, you have gotten right-wing in the last year or two, my friend.

00:28:54.000 That's not right-wing at all, that's left-wing.

00:28:56.000 To be responsible?

00:28:57.000 No, not, I mean... Collectivism is not right-wing.

00:29:00.000 No, but like this, I mean, there's there there's some big time like sacrifice for the greater good and not just for like, you know, soft greater good, but do we have a responsibility?

00:29:09.000 Do we have a responsibility to protect the people of this country?

00:29:13.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:29:15.000 So if we know that paying a ransom to terrorists will make this country worse and cause more suffering, should we stand together and say we will not negotiate with terrorists?

00:29:26.000 I mean, I think that there's actually a good case for a law to be written that basically bans companies from paying this sort of thing and, you know, criminalizes it.

00:29:34.000 Essentially, basically making it so that the companies, the incentives are different and doing something similar.

00:29:40.000 This was the easy way out that sacrifices our long-term prospects for this country.

00:29:45.000 Now we're already hearing, even before this, this was before the Colonial Pipeline, CNA paid $40 million.

00:29:51.000 That probably paved the way for more of this, and it'll keep happening.

00:29:55.000 They're gonna hit cities, and what's gonna happen is ideological extremists, they're not interested in the money.

00:30:01.000 They're gonna start asking for exorbitant fees, like $40 million, knowing, I don't care if they pay or not, if they pay, great, we'll have more money to do more of this.

00:30:08.000 When they gave the hackers $5 million, they funded a terrorist operation.

00:30:13.000 That's true.

00:30:14.000 There's another angle to this.

00:30:15.000 I don't know if we've talked about it, which is the crypto angle, right?

00:30:18.000 I read a pretty compelling article today that was like making one of the points that, you know, one of the current primary use cases of crypto is ransom.

00:30:27.000 Right.

00:30:27.000 They used, I believe they used Bitcoin to pay the ransom.

00:30:31.000 It may have been Monero or something.

00:30:33.000 And I mean, it'd be very challenging to do that in dollars or any actual currency through the banking system because there would be so many safeguards, you know, imposed by government.

00:30:42.000 And there's none of those imposed on crypto.

00:30:45.000 Unless they use something like Monero, it's all trackable.

00:30:51.000 I guess my point, I know you're a crypto guy, Tim, but the logic that you just espoused about the need to sacrifice for the greater good and the good of the country, I feel like there's a pretty compelling argument that the greater good, in the context of avoiding ransom, And really also the strength of the dollar as a country that would suggest that maybe like we should have a negative attitude towards cryptocurrency.

00:31:15.000 Just because bad people use dollars all the time.

00:31:18.000 Sure, bad people use dollars all the time, but that doesn't mean that it's a lot harder to do these kind of things.

00:31:22.000 Bad people use the internet all the time?

00:31:23.000 Should we get rid of the internet?

00:31:24.000 It allows bad people to communicate.

00:31:25.000 No, but... Encrypted chat allows journalists to communicate.

00:31:28.000 We should get rid of that, huh?

00:31:29.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:31:30.000 I didn't say... So just because there's one negative use case, we can't throw the whole thing out.

00:31:33.000 We have to recognize that it's a tool.

00:31:35.000 Right, but I mean, if there's a, you know, if crypto's, like, there aren't that huge number of use cases for crypto as compared to other things.

00:31:42.000 I mean, it's a...

00:31:43.000 It's a currency, right?

00:31:44.000 It's supposed to function as like... I wouldn't call Bitcoin necessarily a currency.

00:31:47.000 A lot of people want it to be, but it's hard.

00:31:50.000 It's not extremely easy to transact.

00:31:51.000 It takes a decent amount of time.

00:31:53.000 It costs money.

00:31:54.000 So it's a digital, non-copyable asset.

00:31:57.000 Sure.

00:31:58.000 And so, I mean, they're like, you know, the other things you talk about, they're like obvious, massive, huge external uses.

00:32:04.000 If a primary use case of crypto is... So smart contracts for crypto, right?

00:32:07.000 Look, look, look.

00:32:08.000 Long story.

00:32:09.000 I don't think you know enough about crypto to make that argument.

00:32:11.000 Maybe not.

00:32:12.000 Bitcoin enables things called smart contracts.

00:32:14.000 The technology is in its infancy.

00:32:16.000 Ethereum really expanded upon it.

00:32:17.000 And so bad people use technology for bad things.

00:32:19.000 TNT wasn't invented to kill people, but they called Nobel the merchant of death because of it.

00:32:23.000 I mean, I think I know a decent amount about smart contracts, right?

00:32:25.000 Like, they're like self-executing contracts.

00:32:28.000 Right.

00:32:29.000 It can really become an efficient way of processing tons of things.

00:32:32.000 In fact, smart contracts can be used.

00:32:34.000 Crypto blockchains, one of the most interesting things I've heard is how it can be used for automatic self-driving cars to communicate with each other and keep ledgers of all of the interactions very easily.

00:32:45.000 So, there's a lot that we don't get.

00:32:48.000 There's a lot of ways.

00:32:49.000 It's like saying in the beginning of the internet, it's like, you know, 1997's like, I don't know, criminals are using this stuff, so we should not be fans of it.

00:32:56.000 If you implanted it into you, you could have it, your body, when your body gets hungry, your coffee machine turns on and gets your coffee brewing for you and gets the microwave turned on.

00:33:05.000 I mean, that's out there, but... The point is... I think you can separate, like, the technology of, I mean, The cryptocurrency can be replicated.

00:33:12.000 Obviously, there are a million different coins out there, right?

00:33:14.000 And the use cases that are technological, right?

00:33:16.000 Smart contracts, whatever this, you know, self-driving cars thing.

00:33:21.000 Blockchain technology.

00:33:22.000 Right.

00:33:22.000 Don't rely on the cryptocurrency itself being worth tens of thousands of dollars per coin, right?

00:33:28.000 They would function with it being worth, you know, 0.001.

00:33:29.000 And Dogecoin is.

00:33:32.000 Right.

00:33:32.000 And yeah, sure.

00:33:33.000 And I mean, if you were actually trying to develop this technology, you wouldn't be like, well, we're going to rely on Bitcoin for our self-driving car exchanges, because why would you incur the expense of using Bitcoin?

00:33:42.000 I think, you know, the primary, you know, I guess, you know, the way I see it from the perspective, like a regulatory perspective, is it's like, is it in the interests of, you know, like the United States as a whole, as a country?

00:33:56.000 For the people, yes.

00:33:58.000 for the people. Yes.

00:33:58.000 Not the Fed.

00:33:59.000 This store of value and and therefore like it and

00:34:03.000 being used as this very opaque currency

00:34:06.000 outside of the banking system. I don't know.

00:34:10.000 The answer is undoubtedly.

00:34:12.000 Yes.

00:34:13.000 When you have corrupt politicians exploiting the people.

00:34:16.000 The point is the people are supposed to be the government.

00:34:18.000 We the people.

00:34:19.000 The consent of the government.

00:34:20.000 Instead, we have elites who are extracting value and burning everything to the ground, and they're using Nancy Pelosi buying tons of stock, or who are these other Republicans who had a bunch of Perfect trades.

00:34:32.000 Kelly Loeffler.

00:34:33.000 Loeffler and the other guy.

00:34:34.000 Was it Purdue?

00:34:34.000 Yeah.

00:34:35.000 And they make a bunch of money.

00:34:36.000 We see it over and over again that these people in Congress will make like the perfect trade just before some bill gets passed that causes a boom or collapse.

00:34:44.000 So you've got elitists who are extracting from the system.

00:34:46.000 You've got the banking system, the mass printing of money.

00:34:49.000 Joe Biden now wants to spend 1.9 trillion dollars at a time when we're having labor shortages because nobody wants to work.

00:34:56.000 So yes, to secure the value of the labor of the individuals in this country, Bitcoin is fantastic.

00:35:03.000 It's a lot.

00:35:04.000 Right now, Bitcoin functions primarily as a non-copyable digital asset for a lot of people.

00:35:11.000 And a lot of people aren't even in Bitcoin.

00:35:13.000 A lot of financial institutions are getting involved in it, but it's decentralized.

00:35:16.000 It's got stakes in a bunch of different places with a bunch of different people, and it's a good thing.

00:35:20.000 When I'm talking about the pipeline, I'm talking about the people standing up together and refusing to let terrorists take advantage of us.

00:35:28.000 Because again, the most important point here, not only are we encouraging the terror, like it's going to keep happening, we are funding it when we pay the ransom.

00:35:37.000 So, I mean, the people, like, again, I mean, we're talking about a private company CEO with shareholders who has an obligation to maximize shareholder value, right?

00:35:45.000 Like, to the extent that this would be imposed so that the CEO, I mean, I think you would need some sort of policy or, like, new law to constrain the behavior of CEOs so that they don't do the thing that is in their shareholders' best interest, i.e.

00:35:59.000 pay a small, you know, a relatively small ransom to try to get the pipeline back on, right?

00:36:04.000 Should we allow people to give money to ISIS if ISIS is threatening someone in their family?

00:36:07.000 than five million for the pipeline to be shut off to colonial.

00:36:10.000 Should we allow people to give money to ISIS if ISIS is threatening someone in their family?

00:36:14.000 No, no.

00:36:15.000 Should we allow companies to fund, directly pay millions of dollars to terrorist organizations?

00:36:20.000 Agreed.

00:36:21.000 But this is the corollary, right?

00:36:23.000 Then we're talking about a government policy that says, OK, for the collective good, we're going to ban these ransoms.

00:36:28.000 We're going to criminalize it.

00:36:29.000 I actually think that is reasonably sound, because that's a way to solve the principal agent problem.

00:36:37.000 I guess it's a collective action problem.

00:36:39.000 Everybody's better off if nobody pays ransom, but it's in the individual interest to pay ransom.

00:36:43.000 So that's how a government policy can come around.

00:36:46.000 Well, there's another dynamic to it, which is, again, if there's an individual incentive for various individuals to have crypto, but the net effect of having crypto maybe is negative because it facilitates ransom.

00:36:58.000 Maybe the government should have a policy that is adversarial towards crypto.

00:37:04.000 There's no connection here.

00:37:05.000 It makes no sense.

00:37:06.000 Well, I mean, like, without crypto, it's pretty hard to see how... Without the internet, it's really hard to see how the terrorists get paid.

00:37:11.000 Sure, but I mean, the internet has, you know, the infinite uses that we all use it for today.

00:37:15.000 Not in 1995.

00:37:18.000 1995, there were news reports saying the internet wouldn't last and it didn't do anything.

00:37:21.000 And here's the other point, like, adversarial towards crypto doesn't necessarily mean adversarial towards the technological applications of crypto that you're discussing, but merely adversarial towards the currency one.

00:37:29.000 Right, in fact, we got Section 230 from Congress in the mid-90s to protect the internet in its infancy, to embolden it and empower it.

00:37:37.000 So if anything, we need the government to help us make it better and strengthen it.

00:37:37.000 Right.

00:37:41.000 Maybe that's a better way of dealing with these things.

00:37:43.000 I mean, what do you think about a national cryptocurrency?

00:37:47.000 Like one, you know, distinct from Bitcoin, funded by, you know, supported by the government.

00:37:51.000 Yeah, UCBC.

00:37:52.000 I think India's doing it. 0.99

00:37:54.000 I think the U.S.

00:37:54.000 is already working on it.

00:37:55.000 People are calling it Fedcoin.

00:37:57.000 Yeah.

00:37:58.000 I mean, there's other problems, obviously, that come to that because, you know, whenever you have a currency.

00:38:02.000 You think the Federal Reserve is a good thing?

00:38:04.000 I mean, I think, here's the thing.

00:38:05.000 I think in general, one really good way to have an economic crisis is to have a currency that you cannot dilute.

00:38:14.000 That's the lesson, you know, the way to think about it is, I mean, that's the lesson of the euro crisis.

00:38:18.000 So this is actually, like, an economic question about the inability for, like, what happens when, you know, countries become less productive?

00:38:27.000 And there's a basic behavioral truth.

00:38:29.000 People don't like wage cuts.

00:38:30.000 No one likes seeing their pay take home pay cut in nominal terms.

00:38:35.000 And so basically, you know, in America, like when that happens, or in when you have floating exchange rates, well then the exchange rates just floats and your goods don't purchase as much of German goods.

00:38:44.000 But at least in your own country, wages don't go down.

00:38:47.000 But they're all in the euro.

00:38:48.000 And as a result, like wages, you know, we're sticky downwards.

00:38:52.000 It's hard for them to go down.

00:38:52.000 So instead, a lot of people just don't get employed.

00:38:55.000 And that's the euro crisis.

00:38:56.000 That's the gold standard of the 1920s in England.

00:39:00.000 There's a lot of good reasons to think that a really obvious trigger of recessions in the past has been fixed exchange rates.

00:39:07.000 And so it's not obvious to me that you would want to have the government unable to dilute a money supply, because in that world, essentially, you're dealing with a fixed currency.

00:39:17.000 And if you have a decrease in overall economic productivity, that's going to manifest itself in unemployment if you don't have dilution.

00:39:23.000 I like being able to spin up new cryptos to avoid the inability to dilute.

00:39:28.000 So it'd be a sort of dilution by creating new finite supplies.

00:39:31.000 Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I think that crypto as technology, I don't think, relies on having crypto as the store of value, you know, on, you know, anonymous world currency.

00:39:42.000 Right.

00:39:43.000 And that, you know, I think the real query is if the if You know, the primary use case of the anonymous world currency, you know, crypto is ransomware.

00:39:53.000 But that's not anonymous.

00:39:54.000 OK, well, I guess not anonymous, but like pseudonymous or essentially like hard to... It's actually the opposite.

00:39:59.000 It's Bitcoin tracks everything you do.

00:40:02.000 And they know who has what.

00:40:02.000 Right.

00:40:03.000 Like so there's stories all the time about which white supremacist has which Bitcoin and how much money.

00:40:06.000 Sure.

00:40:07.000 So it's actually more transparent and bad for a lot of these groups trying to operate, for better or for worse, in the shadows.

00:40:13.000 Sure.

00:40:14.000 There is Monero, which does obfuscate transactions.

00:40:17.000 Right.

00:40:17.000 And, you know, I mean, obviously, every one of these ransomwares we're seeing is being paid off in crypto, right?

00:40:24.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:40:25.000 So they use, like, pools to manipulate the flow and then, like, take them in, launder Bitcoin and make it harder to track.

00:40:31.000 Right.

00:40:33.000 And they do that and they don't do it through the normal banking system, right?

00:40:36.000 There's nobody getting a wire transfer of ransomware money.

00:40:39.000 I doubt it.

00:40:40.000 That would be insane.

00:40:41.000 No, probably.

00:40:42.000 Yeah.

00:40:43.000 Well, I mean, to a bank account?

00:40:45.000 I mean, a bank account could be supervised by the sovereigns much more easily than crypto.

00:40:49.000 Sure, but I'm not denying that it's a lot easier to pay a ransom with crypto than it was with a bank account, but I'm sure people have found ways to pay ransoms through bank accounts because crypto is relatively new.

00:40:57.000 Sure, but it's like, you know, the explosion of these ransomware attacks is joined with crypto.

00:41:02.000 What do they do in the movies, like Swiss bank accounts?

00:41:04.000 Yeah, but I mean, those still don't work as well, right?

00:41:07.000 There's still sovereign influence over them.

00:41:09.000 There's new technology.

00:41:10.000 So I think what we should be saying is we'd be having the exact same conversation in the 90s about the internet.

00:41:16.000 It's kind of an absurd argument.

00:41:18.000 I mean, oh, I don't know.

00:41:19.000 I think, you know, the internet argument suggests that there's this plethora of use cases for the internet.

00:41:26.000 I mean, we use it for everything we do now.

00:41:29.000 Everything.

00:41:30.000 Right, but in the 90s we didn't.

00:41:31.000 And so people could say, why should we have this thing that's like 1.01% of our economy be facilitating crime?

00:41:38.000 But I mean, I guess I've, I think I've answered that by saying that the technological use cases of crypto that are, you know, the things that some of the, again, you gave the example of cars and smart contracts.

00:41:38.000 Sure.

00:41:49.000 Sure, but they're not reliant on crypto itself being a store of value in an anonymous global currency.

00:41:56.000 It is.

00:41:57.000 There are tokens that are utility tokens that are seemingly shouldn't be held as value, but they have value because they're non-copyable assets.

00:42:05.000 There's scarcity to them.

00:42:07.000 Like Dogecoin has value in its memery and the confidence people have in the idea of Doge being funny.

00:42:14.000 So they buy it, even though it's an inflationary coin, and they keep printing more and more of it.

00:42:17.000 Sure.

00:42:17.000 So maybe, I mean, my understanding of Bitcoin technology is that there's more and more coins, I mean, at an ever-decreasing rate, but more and more coins mined via computer.

00:42:26.000 But it's finite.

00:42:27.000 There'll be about 20 million total.

00:42:28.000 Right.

00:42:29.000 So, I mean, imagine if you're totally focused solely on the technological use of crypto, you'd probably want something that has a dramatically higher inflation rate, right?

00:42:38.000 Like Dogecoin.

00:42:38.000 Yeah, I guess.

00:42:39.000 Or something that creates, you know, it's so trivially easy to mine more new coins as opposed to difficult.

00:42:45.000 Because like the idea of Bitcoin is the, yeah, I guess, I don't know.

00:42:50.000 But like, that would be better technologically.

00:42:53.000 And then also, that would be a terrible, you know, that would not be a great use case for I don't think for ransomware, if the currency is just constantly being eroded, then nobody would be really willing to pay very much for any particular crypto.

00:43:07.000 Right.

00:43:07.000 But a good portion of crypto is inflationary and a good portion is deflationary.

00:43:12.000 Right.

00:43:13.000 Crypto is just non-copyable digital assets and there's a lot of things that can be done with them.

00:43:16.000 Sure.

00:43:17.000 And I get all that.

00:43:19.000 I'm not saying all crypto bad.

00:43:22.000 I'm saying crypto designed to be a store of value, stable global currency, probably bad.

00:43:29.000 But it's not.

00:43:32.000 If you look at the original ideas of what Bitcoin was, a lot of people would argue that it was meant to be a currency.

00:43:37.000 Where it's at today, it certainly isn't.

00:43:39.000 Right.

00:43:40.000 I know.

00:43:41.000 But perhaps we shouldn't be trying to do that.

00:43:43.000 That particular use case.

00:43:45.000 It could be.

00:43:46.000 Like, you could use apples.

00:43:47.000 Or you could use seashells as a currency.

00:43:49.000 Maple syrup.

00:43:49.000 They used to.

00:43:50.000 They used to use seashells.

00:43:50.000 Anything.

00:43:50.000 Yeah.

00:43:52.000 Then they had to figure out gold coins because they were soft and you could cut them thin enough.

00:43:52.000 Gold.

00:43:57.000 Now they make cotton.

00:43:58.000 These dollars are made of cotton.

00:43:59.000 Yeah.

00:44:00.000 But the thing about crypto is you could make a token like Canon, who we use Canon cameras, could make a crypto that's like a smart contract crypto that, you know, if you have it, then when you sit down, all your cameras turn on.

00:44:12.000 And so but if you don't have it, you got to do it all manually.

00:44:15.000 So it's a it's a smart contract that does this stuff.

00:44:17.000 So you want to go buy it doesn't have any value fiscally, but it has value functionally.

00:44:22.000 So it will have fiscal value as a result.

00:44:25.000 And there's no avoiding it.

00:44:27.000 The Minds Utility Token isn't supposed to have an inherent value, necessarily.

00:44:32.000 It's used for... because you can use a Minds Token to boost your post.

00:44:37.000 Well, views have value, and if the token can do that, then the token has monetary value.

00:44:41.000 Sure.

00:44:42.000 I mean, I can see, like, my point is not necessarily to say that, like, the tokens... Everything's got monetary value.

00:44:49.000 Like, zero monetary value.

00:44:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:44:51.000 But rather that making them undesirable as stores of value.

00:44:57.000 I don't like the idea of the government printing money to steal the value of working-class people to give to the ultra-wealthy.

00:45:09.000 So I like crypto for that reason.

00:45:14.000 And general like fixed exchange rates in general.

00:45:17.000 And I mean, I think that the difference is Bitcoin can be forked and modified debate based on consensus within the decentralized network.

00:45:23.000 So when you look at Biden saying he wants to print six trillion or borrow up to like 30 trillion or whatever, and they keep giving money to people who aren't working.

00:45:32.000 And then those people who aren't working are then buying from people who are working.

00:45:36.000 Agreed.

00:45:36.000 It's essentially redistributing wealth and giving people a benefit to not work while

00:45:40.000 others have to work because certainly someone has to.

00:45:43.000 It's only possible because they can just make more over nonstop.

00:45:47.000 And inflation is essentially a hidden tax on savings.

00:45:50.000 Agreed.

00:45:51.000 Bitcoin is the opposite.

00:45:52.000 But it's not just Bitcoin.

00:45:54.000 There's a bunch of other cryptocurrencies that do a bunch of other things.

00:45:57.000 So many of them have value because people value them like anything.

00:46:01.000 And so I don't like the idea that working class people can't save money.

00:46:06.000 They got to spend money to be in the bank.

00:46:09.000 If they hold the dollars and the dollars lose value, maybe they can't afford a full ounce of gold.

00:46:13.000 They'll try and buy something.

00:46:14.000 I like the idea that they have a hedge and Bitcoin makes it extremely easy for most people.

00:46:19.000 I don't know.

00:46:19.000 I mean, I think it's extraordinarily risky as a hedge.

00:46:23.000 And I think in general, if you're trying to hedge against inflation, one of the better ways to do it, and if we're also, one of the socially better ways to do it is to invest in stocks, equities.

00:46:33.000 What makes you think Bitcoin's risky?

00:46:35.000 What makes me think Bitcoin's risky?

00:46:38.000 Because I could, like, does it produce itself, growth, right?

00:46:44.000 Does it produce profit?

00:46:45.000 Yes.

00:46:46.000 It produces heat when it's created.

00:46:48.000 Right, it consumes it.

00:46:49.000 Well, the computer produces the heat.

00:46:50.000 Produces heat.

00:46:51.000 The computer produces the heat.

00:46:52.000 But it doesn't actually, it just transfers the heat.

00:46:54.000 Right, right, right.

00:46:55.000 Transmutes it. 0.69

00:46:56.000 I guess, so it transmutes, but I mean, it consumes energy.

00:46:59.000 Yeah, it consumes electricity and gets off heat.

00:47:01.000 It consumes electricity.

00:47:02.000 Like, it doesn't, like, businesses, you know, transform lesser valued, you know, factors of production into finished products that are more valuable.

00:47:11.000 So, like, a digital asset that can't be copied is valuable to people.

00:47:15.000 Right.

00:47:15.000 I'm saying, but like the asset itself versus the company that makes it, right?

00:47:19.000 Like if you're investing in a company that transforms something to, you know, something of lesser value and something more value.

00:47:25.000 That's literally what they're doing though.

00:47:26.000 But like, again, commodity versus the company, right?

00:47:29.000 Like when I'm talking about equity, equities grow, they produce, you know, companies produce things and transform, you know, if they don't make things more valuable, they go out of business.

00:47:40.000 Is a large rock worth less than the iron that is perfectly extracted into an ingot from the rock?

00:47:47.000 Like, obviously the ingot's worth more as a piece of metal refined.

00:47:50.000 So taking energy and converting that into a non-copyable digital asset that someone can hold and can be used for smart contracts, if people want to do it, it becomes something more valuable.

00:48:00.000 Sure, right.

00:48:01.000 Okay, so there's, again, distinguish the business and the commodity, right?

00:48:04.000 Like the business of, you know, making Bitcoin versus and you can invest in the companies

00:48:09.000 that mine for sure.

00:48:10.000 Right. Right. And so but like again, my point is that as a hedge against

00:48:14.000 inflation, right, the token itself, like there could be a move against it and it

00:48:19.000 could go dramatically. I don't know. Like I see, you know, Bitcoin is being in

00:48:24.000 some ways worse than gold or more risky than gold.

00:48:26.000 Gold can go to zero?

00:48:27.000 You can eat it.

00:48:28.000 You can definitely eat it.

00:48:28.000 I could go to zero.

00:48:29.000 I could go to, you know, in the same way that when...

00:48:32.000 Gold can go to zero?

00:48:34.000 Gold has just underlying fundamental use cases.

00:48:36.000 Like what?

00:48:37.000 Like beauty, industrial.

00:48:38.000 You can eat it.

00:48:39.000 You can definitely eat it.

00:48:40.000 You can start colloidal gold.

00:48:41.000 I used to drink it a lot at the...

00:48:44.000 But with crypto, again, you have smart contracts, you have underlying use cases, you have a

00:48:49.000 Right, but they don't rely on any particular crypto.

00:48:53.000 Using gold as a conductor doesn't rely on the value.

00:48:56.000 In fact, it's inhibited.

00:48:57.000 We could be using gold for technology, but the cost is prohibitively expensive because people just want it for no reason.

00:49:03.000 I mean, people want gold.

00:49:03.000 Right.

00:49:04.000 And I mean, you could argue that that underlying, you know, that creates some higher demand for but like those Bitcoin.

00:49:11.000 Sure.

00:49:12.000 Okay.

00:49:12.000 But the point the idea is not like Bitcoin, like crypto, right?

00:49:16.000 If you say crypto has use cases, therefore, Bitcoin can't go to zero.

00:49:19.000 It's like, well, Bitcoin has use cases, so it's extremely unlikely to go to zero.

00:49:24.000 I mean, but like every those use cases are universal to cryptos generally, and so it can be replaced by other cryptos.

00:49:31.000 Right?

00:49:32.000 Not necessarily.

00:49:33.000 Theoretically, you could create an identical coin to Bitcoin just using its open source code, but you don't have the network.

00:49:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:49:43.000 Is that even an advantage because of how much energy the network is burning?

00:49:46.000 It's an advantage because people use it.

00:49:48.000 It's universally... Like, what if someone said, like, gold, I could use aluminum, you know?

00:49:54.000 Like, wasn't aluminum worth more than gold at one point because it was harder to produce?

00:49:58.000 And so what, just use a different... Look, if metal is valuable, then we'll use any metal we want.

00:50:02.000 Gold could go to zero because aluminum could go up.

00:50:05.000 Or we could find a giant asteroid of gold, and we're like, wow.

00:50:08.000 It's worth a thousandth of what we thought it was.

00:50:10.000 Right, that's true.

00:50:12.000 And you can't do that with Bitcoin.

00:50:13.000 Diamonds are intentionally inflated in value.

00:50:14.000 They're really not worth that much.

00:50:15.000 We can mass-produce diamonds artificially using those neon gas chambers.

00:50:19.000 So gold has some use cases in terms of a conductive metal.

00:50:24.000 I think silver is better.

00:50:26.000 And people don't use it, for the most part, because gold is way too expensive to actually use.

00:50:29.000 So people just like having it as a status symbol.

00:50:32.000 It's kind of a meaningless value, but the reality is gold is scarce, and so people value it as a hedge because it's a scarce commodity.

00:50:40.000 It's not even that good a hedge, honestly.

00:50:42.000 I'm not pro-gold.

00:50:44.000 I'm pro-investing in companies and the American economy.

00:50:47.000 So you think being invested in a valuable company that can weather the storm of a depression

00:50:52.000 is a good hedge against inflation?

00:50:54.000 Right, because think about it.

00:50:56.000 People are going to keep wanting iPhones because they make an incredible product.

00:51:01.000 Or companies that have a sort of durable moat, a competitive moat.

00:51:06.000 They're going to be able to, they have pricing power.

00:51:08.000 So if inflation increases the cost of their factors of production, they can increase the

00:51:12.000 price of the goods and people will still buy them.

00:51:15.000 And that ability to durably make profit means that they are a good, even in a world of inflation,

00:51:22.000 means they are a good hedge against inflation.

00:51:24.000 That's like one thing.

00:51:25.000 I mean, you know, you can like gold is more of a, it's more speculating on fear in a way, right?

00:51:32.000 Like you're, you know, gold isn't gonna somehow magically replace the dollar as currency.

00:51:37.000 But rather, if you're buying gold, you're sort of betting... A good way to think about buying gold is that you're betting people are going to be more scared in a year or two years than they are currently, and therefore it'll go up in price.

00:51:46.000 You're also betting the system will stay intact.

00:51:49.000 The same is true, to a certain degree, with crypto, but more so with gold.

00:51:51.000 Sure, but you're much more wisely invested in that case, because you've invested massively in ammunition and guns and things like that, which will be much more valuable.

00:51:57.000 Which is why I buy... I have gold and I have silver, but I think about... It's not so much about the guns, it's about investing in function.

00:52:05.000 So, we've also got a kiln, we've got a forge, we've got... And for the most part, it's fun things you can make.

00:52:13.000 We've also got 3D printers.

00:52:14.000 This is mostly for making stuff, but I'd rather buy something that does a thing than just buy a rock.

00:52:19.000 Yeah.

00:52:20.000 Agreed.

00:52:20.000 I don't think much of gold.

00:52:21.000 But I still do buy the shiny rocks, to be honest.

00:52:23.000 Yeah, gold.

00:52:24.000 They used to wear gold crowns.

00:52:26.000 I think it has healing properties.

00:52:26.000 You know, the kings.

00:52:28.000 Apparently it was in the earth.

00:52:30.000 And you know, you get your trace minerals when you eat vegetables.

00:52:32.000 You get like a little bit of iron in your diet.

00:52:34.000 You used to get a little bit of gold in your diet.

00:52:36.000 Gold was just scarce and easy to mold.

00:52:38.000 They mined most of it out of the earth because they wanted it for currency. 0.97

00:52:41.000 And now when you eat, you don't get the trace mineral anymore.

00:52:44.000 The gold's missing.

00:52:45.000 So people will supplement it by eating colloidal.

00:52:47.000 They'll suspend it in water and drink a little bit at a time.

00:52:49.000 Is that why all the flakes are in the little sushi?

00:52:51.000 Like they're really nice restaurants?

00:52:52.000 Maybe?

00:52:53.000 Because it actually has value.

00:52:54.000 I hear that it coats the neurons in your brain.

00:52:57.000 It'll coat them and allow them to conduct electricity faster.

00:53:00.000 I felt that when I'm stretching, when my muscle would rip, if I had eaten gold, it will fill in the muscle and I can keep stretching.

00:53:06.000 I don't know about all that.

00:53:07.000 It would, like, soak into their skin, the kings, and that's why they would have it touching their skin.

00:53:11.000 And gold rings.

00:53:12.000 Silver's antibacterial, so if you have an infection, silver can cure, help you cure that or heal that.

00:53:18.000 And then you turn blue.

00:53:19.000 A lot of these metals, palladium and platinum, it's just not a real, it's not a science.

00:53:22.000 People haven't really scientifically done much, I don't think, with that, that research.

00:53:26.000 But trace minerals are legit for your diet.

00:53:29.000 Cryptocurrency is a great technology.

00:53:29.000 True.

00:53:31.000 Moses, they say, ground up that golden calf and fed it to the people.

00:53:35.000 hitting anybody for making a good trade like if you made a good trade you made a good trade like that's that the rules of trading or you make money with I think there are people who just like are Bitcoin doomers arbitrarily Like, Dogecoin, I understand if you're like, Dogecoin's a bad bet because it's an inflationary currency that's mass-produced.

00:53:54.000 Right.

00:53:55.000 So it's, like, guaranteed to go down unless people are memeing it up, which can't go, like, really can't go that long.

00:54:02.000 Now, Elon Musk is trying to get developers to alter Doge because they can't.

00:54:07.000 They basically can't because it's effectively abandonware.

00:54:10.000 And then maybe they'll do something to make it more stable, but it's an incredibly unstable coin.

00:54:16.000 Incredibly.

00:54:16.000 Yeah, Elon, I mean... And Elon, of course, encouraged everybody to buy it, because Elon is a stock promoter with some research projects on the side.

00:54:24.000 Like, that's his business.

00:54:24.000 Yeah.

00:54:24.000 Right.

00:54:25.000 So he probably... I bet he sold all his doge at the top.

00:54:28.000 Oh, sure.

00:54:28.000 Right?

00:54:29.000 You know, what do they say?

00:54:30.000 Buy on the rumor, sell on the news?

00:54:31.000 Is that the saying?

00:54:32.000 Right.

00:54:32.000 I mean, there's a weird way of making money in crypto that just becomes obvious, right?

00:54:36.000 If you're a massive social media influencer, you just buy a bunch of a random... No, no, no, no, no.

00:54:41.000 You can make it.

00:54:42.000 Like that.

00:54:42.000 Yeah.

00:54:43.000 You can make ERC-20 tokens just instantly.

00:54:46.000 Yeah.

00:54:46.000 Make tokens, encourage your followers to buy them, sell the tokens.

00:54:50.000 It's crazy.

00:54:51.000 You know, to be honest... It's not an SEC violation.

00:54:52.000 I think it probably is, actually.

00:54:54.000 I don't even want to draw the wrath, but man... No, no, no.

00:54:56.000 It's vicious.

00:54:57.000 I can make a bunch of t-shirts and sell them.

00:55:00.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:55:01.000 I can make a t-shirt and be like, everybody should buy this t-shirt and get your To The Moon t-shirt at TimCast.com by clicking the store button.

00:55:10.000 I can make t-shirts and sell them.

00:55:13.000 I mean, the question is going to be whether it falls under the technical definition of a security.

00:55:17.000 It's not.

00:55:18.000 It's a commodity.

00:55:19.000 I don't know if the SEC has said that.

00:55:21.000 So the issue is, what's happened to a lot of these companies that the SEC has gone after or questioned, is that they'll start a company, create the tokens, and then sell them to get funding for the company.

00:55:34.000 And so they say, you're issuing a security.

00:55:36.000 It's a really interesting argument because I can make little cards that say, I can buy a bunch of white card stock and autograph them, and I can get a million of them, and I can say, who wants to buy them?

00:55:46.000 And people will buy them?

00:55:48.000 For a dollar each and then I make a million dollars?

00:55:50.000 If you've got the network and the influence, is that a security?

00:55:53.000 No.

00:55:53.000 You're not getting anything from the company.

00:55:55.000 I don't know.

00:55:56.000 This is an area of law, actually.

00:55:57.000 I took securities regulation in 3L when you stop paying attention because your job's already settled at that point.

00:56:05.000 My knowledge of securities regulation is actually fairly weak.

00:56:07.000 Theoretically, making a million tokens is just a digital object, and you can make it and you can sell it.

00:56:15.000 It's a matter of what they call ICO, initial coin offering.

00:56:18.000 That's when they'd spin up a million and then they'd sell 500,000 of them.

00:56:22.000 The issue is if the coins have a function for the business, I suppose.

00:56:24.000 Right.

00:56:25.000 If they're utilities, then they're not securities.

00:56:26.000 This is my rudimentary understanding.

00:56:28.000 I don't know if it's real or not.

00:56:30.000 As a lawyer, I have no idea.

00:56:32.000 Maybe we're in too deep, you guys.

00:56:34.000 But OK, so my thoughts on crypto.

00:56:36.000 I don't like the government spying on us.

00:56:38.000 I don't like it knowing or people with guns knowing every move that I'm making.

00:56:43.000 That's a fair point.

00:56:44.000 But I also, I, so in that sense, I support Monero, but I see the danger in the, uh, of, of not being able to keep an eye on dangerous activity.

00:56:55.000 But I also value, I want everyone to have their own crypto that you can, you can use my crypto to buy my services with a discount.

00:57:02.000 So there'll create inherent value.

00:57:04.000 You know, my behavior creates inherent value for my crypto.

00:57:06.000 And then we have an unlimited supply, but it's also limited because you know how many there will ever be.

00:57:12.000 I don't know.

00:57:13.000 You know, I used to, because the reason I argue so much about this is because I used to be a hardcore libertarian.

00:57:17.000 Like, I bought gold.

00:57:18.000 I was into the, you know, in 2008 or something and made money on the trade, even though I was wrong about the reason why it went up.

00:57:26.000 And so, you know, I look back and I'm not even sure, you know, I think a lot about, I've thought a lot about currency generally, not necessarily crypto itself, but currency more broadly.

00:57:35.000 And, you know, there's real benefits to having a reserve currency as a country and being the beneficiaries of this, right?

00:57:42.000 The way to think about it is China basically is subsidizing so much of what we do and you know as is the rest of the world the fact that we can just print immense amounts of money and I mean we're gonna see some inflation but not like have the currency collapse into a heap and why doesn't it do that well it's needed to pay tribute to them you know by 300 million of the wealthiest people in the world to pay tribute to the most powerful institution in the world and so my opinion I think Bitcoin will go to a million bucks I think, you know, Max Keiser has said his target for this year is like $220,000.

00:58:15.000 If I had listened to Max Keiser in 2012, I'd be a billionaire right now.

00:58:19.000 I'm not exaggerating.

00:58:20.000 I'm literally not exaggerating.

00:58:22.000 Billionaire.

00:58:24.000 Bitcoin was trading at less than a dollar.

00:58:26.000 Yeah, I remember.

00:58:27.000 I remember seeing the early days of Bitcoin.

00:58:27.000 I remember that.

00:58:29.000 There was a period where, 2011, you could have spent 10 grand and it would have made you a billionaire in 10 years.

00:58:36.000 It's crazy.

00:58:37.000 I asked a dude, like, where do I get it?

00:58:38.000 It was 2011, I think, and we were playing poker.

00:58:40.000 And he's like, you got to write down your key on a piece of paper.

00:58:43.000 I was like, what?

00:58:43.000 I remember those days.

00:58:44.000 What if it gets burnt or I lose it?

00:58:45.000 He's like, then you lose all your bitcoins.

00:58:48.000 I was like, they're worth 70 cents, dude.

00:58:49.000 I'm not messing with you.

00:58:51.000 It was so difficult to buy.

00:58:52.000 That was one of the issues, too.

00:58:53.000 Back in 2011, my famous story when my friend talked me out of buying.

00:58:56.000 He did.

00:58:57.000 But it was easy to talk me out of it because I didn't even know how to buy it.

00:59:01.000 I'm on these forums and they're willing to sell Bitcoin.

00:59:04.000 And I'm like, bro, you're in Nebraska.

00:59:05.000 I'm in LA.

00:59:06.000 Like, I don't even know.

00:59:07.000 So I was like, whatever.

00:59:08.000 There's a thing called the Bitcoin Faucet that was giving out, I think, .05 of a Bitcoin every 15 minutes.

00:59:13.000 And so I was just, like, hitting the button.

00:59:15.000 And I had, like, 1.5 Bitcoin just from this thing.

00:59:18.000 And it was worth less than a dollar.

00:59:19.000 And I was like, I don't know.

00:59:20.000 Yeah.

00:59:21.000 I mean, at the time, everybody thought they had better ways to spend their time.

00:59:24.000 Now that would be $60,000.

00:59:25.000 You know?

00:59:26.000 And I mean, like, and that's where, I mean, on the other hand, I'm not, you know, I'll candidly admit, like, I got that trade wrong.

00:59:32.000 That would have been great to get in on the early Bitcoin trade as a speculative matter.

00:59:36.000 See, here's what you don't understand.

00:59:37.000 I've been through that loop probably 10 times.

00:59:42.000 When I saw it at $0.70, and then it hit $1, I was like, A dollar?

00:59:47.000 Man, I should have bought.

00:59:49.000 Then I saw it hit $5,000.

00:59:49.000 I was like, oh!

00:59:51.000 Then I saw it hit $15,000.

00:59:52.000 Then $20,000.

00:59:52.000 Oh!

00:59:53.000 Then $50,000.

00:59:54.000 Then $200,000.

00:59:54.000 Then $100,000.

00:59:54.000 Then $500,000.

00:59:55.000 Then $1,000,000.

00:59:56.000 And every single time, I said, if only I bought then.

00:59:59.000 If only I bought then.

01:00:00.000 And I remember when it hit $1,700, I was like, you know what?

01:00:04.000 It was an all-time high.

01:00:04.000 I was like, I'm buying it.

01:00:06.000 Because I know it's going to happen.

01:00:07.000 I'm going to say, if only I bought again.

01:00:07.000 It's going to go up.

01:00:09.000 And I bought a small amount.

01:00:11.000 And then I forgot about it.

01:00:13.000 And then I just went out with my daily business.

01:00:15.000 And then I remember when it hit.

01:00:17.000 Because it was at... I bought it at $1,700.

01:00:19.000 It went up to like $13,000 in November.

01:00:21.000 I was like, oh well, you know, it looks like I got a little bit in my wallet.

01:00:21.000 I bought a little bit more.

01:00:24.000 Whatever, I ignored it.

01:00:24.000 Then when it hit $40,000 within like three months, I was like, where's that phone?

01:00:28.000 And I'm like looking for the account and then I found it.

01:00:31.000 And I was like, I'm sure glad I bought.

01:00:33.000 Peter Schiff has been anti-Bitcoin forever.

01:00:36.000 Yeah, he's also been pro-gold and he's been wrong about a lot of things.

01:00:39.000 But it's funny that it's like Bitcoin hits, you know, 100 bucks and he's like,

01:00:42.000 ah, this is nothing. And now he's still complaining about it because it fell 30%

01:00:46.000 to $40,000. And he's like, you see the thing about Bitcoin?

01:00:51.000 I'm like, bro, I'm sorry, dude.

01:00:53.000 You want to complain about Bitcoin? It's at Do you think I'm upset that it fell to $40,000?

01:00:58.000 Do you think most of the people who've been active in the crypto space are crying right now?

01:01:03.000 There's a dude who, like, sold his house to buy a bunch of Bitcoin, and this was four years ago.

01:01:08.000 Bitcoin was at $1,700.

01:01:09.000 And he's still actively like, woo, this is great!

01:01:13.000 Because it is a new technology.

01:01:16.000 And imagine if you bought Apple stock, you know, before the iPod came out.

01:01:20.000 You would be very happy after the iPod.

01:01:24.000 It's not the same thing.

01:01:25.000 I totally get your point.

01:01:26.000 I like investing in functional things like companies.

01:01:28.000 It makes a lot of sense.

01:01:29.000 You're hoping the company continues to be functional.

01:01:32.000 Right, like there's always the risk that the company stops making something people want, you know, or just has some business problems.

01:01:38.000 So it's a different kind of investment.

01:01:40.000 It is.

01:01:40.000 It is a different kind of investment.

01:01:42.000 Bitcoin is first in and best dressed.

01:01:45.000 It is decentralized and extremely difficult, if not impossible, to Control the network now Elon of course can screw with it, but a lot of people think he's the one who caused this massive sell-off It's actually tax season, and he probably knew that which is why he made his move I don't know why he made his move, but you see people throughout the year especially when Bitcoin went from 13 to $64,000 probably cashed out a little bit and went and partied

01:02:10.000 Tax season comes up, you gotta pay the IRS when they're like, hey, where'd you get that $15,000 from?

01:02:14.000 Oh, I cashed out some Bitcoin.

01:02:15.000 Okay, well, you gotta pay 30%.

01:02:16.000 Oh, let me sell some Bitcoin to pay you off.

01:02:18.000 That caused a huge sell-off.

01:02:19.000 Now, here's what happened.

01:02:20.000 Bitcoin dropped down to, I think, $29,800, and then almost in a split second jumped right back up to $35,000.

01:02:25.000 Why?

01:02:27.000 Because there was a whale waiting with a program preset.

01:02:30.000 The moment Bitcoin hits $30,000, you put in millions of dollars.

01:02:34.000 Someone noticed $750 million move off of exchanges around this time.

01:02:38.000 Somebody became a multi-billionaire in that sell-off.

01:02:43.000 Sure.

01:02:43.000 I mean, you know, that's, you know, but I mean, I guess like that sort of trading logic applies to any sort of security.

01:02:49.000 Absolutely.

01:02:50.000 Yeah.

01:02:50.000 Ever, right?

01:02:51.000 And so, I mean, the question is this, is this like a really going to be valuable thing or is this going to be tulips, right?

01:02:57.000 I think we're at 10 years.

01:03:00.000 It's been around for, I think, 13 years, Bitcoin?

01:03:03.000 2008.

01:03:04.000 And so it's continually climbed.

01:03:06.000 It's been adopted by some of the wealthiest financial institutions on the planet.

01:03:10.000 You know, one of the things that really got me is when it was at 70 cents, I'm like, nobody uses this.

01:03:15.000 Why am I going to be confident in something nobody uses?

01:03:17.000 Now, when I got to 20 bucks, you had an old Magic the Gathering website, Mt.

01:03:20.000 Gox.

01:03:21.000 It was M-T-G-O-X-Y. 1.00

01:03:23.000 It was Magic the Gathering Online Exchange.

01:03:25.000 And then when this guy was like, Bitcoin's a thing, he started calling it Mount Gux.

01:03:29.000 Like, it's actually a mountain.

01:03:30.000 It's like, he's rebranding to sell Bitcoin.

01:03:32.000 Well, that went belly up.

01:03:33.000 I lost Bitcoin there.

01:03:34.000 It got hacked, right?

01:03:35.000 Yeah, BTC, or I don't know what happened, but BTC goes belly up.

01:03:37.000 I lost some Bitcoin there.

01:03:38.000 But they still, I didn't care.

01:03:40.000 They weren't worth that much, and it wasn't heavily adopted.

01:03:43.000 Then the Winklevoss twins were like, we're gonna put in, what did they put in, like hundreds of millions of dollars.

01:03:47.000 Then you see a bunch of financial institutions finally say, we're gonna start offering these portfolios.

01:03:52.000 I was like, okay.

01:03:53.000 I really don't think these financial institutions will let themselves lose the money.

01:03:57.000 So they'll resist.

01:03:59.000 They'll probably manipulate. 0.57

01:04:01.000 Like Elon Musk does.

01:04:02.000 So that's why a lot of people buy Dogecoin. 0.99

01:04:04.000 A lot of dumb people sold. 0.91

01:04:05.000 I'm not telling anybody what to do, no financial advice here. 1.00

01:04:08.000 But Elon is pumping Doge.

01:04:11.000 He wants to get rich off of Pumping Doge, in my opinion. 0.78

01:04:13.000 And so... These whales, these high-profile individuals of 55 million followers, are gonna be manipulated playing that game.

01:04:21.000 Sure, but I mean, you know, I think housing crisis, right?

01:04:23.000 Like nobody thought the housing market would go down.

01:04:26.000 Nobody thought that the banks would get, you know, lose any money to the housing crisis.

01:04:29.000 And surely nobody thought Lehman Brothers would go under, you know, I don't know.

01:04:34.000 Bitcoin could end tomorrow, I suppose.

01:04:34.000 For sure.

01:04:37.000 I just, the bigger risk, I suppose, is that it's young.

01:04:41.000 People have confidence in gold because they've been born into confidence in gold.

01:04:46.000 I mean, I think it's silly to have confidence in gold, frankly, too.

01:04:49.000 I want to be clear.

01:04:49.000 I think that it's just a thing.

01:04:51.000 And Bitcoin won't end.

01:04:54.000 Looking at it as a monetary value is wrong.

01:04:56.000 It's not wrong. 0.84

01:04:57.000 It's just 1% of the way there, short-sighted.

01:05:01.000 It's the functionality of the technology that's changing everything about the way we interact as humans.

01:05:08.000 And it will continue to do so as we Become more cybernetic, you know, more attached to these devices.

01:05:14.000 I can trade and make millions of dollars in a split second now.

01:05:17.000 To put it simply, this was something that, this could maybe be a meme, but people are pointing out the cost, the energy cost for the financial system that exists today is like 40% more than the energy cost of maintaining Bitcoin.

01:05:31.000 Just Bitcoin.

01:05:32.000 Right, but it just strikes me as, you know, couldn't you out-compete Bitcoin with one that was less energy. Yeah, absolutely,

01:05:38.000 right?

01:05:39.000 Yeah, you know just like silver is a better conductor than gold and we can use silver for certain things

01:05:43.000 But we typically hold them as stores of value. There's going to be more cryptocurrencies. There was a super chat

01:05:48.000 We'll read more but someone mentioned that dogecoin is actually stable because it has a standard 2% inflation per

01:05:53.000 year I don't know if that's true. But people are saying that

01:05:56.000 basically means yeah, I slowly go up. I have no you know I have no idea.

01:06:01.000 I don't invest in crypto.

01:06:04.000 No financial advice.

01:06:05.000 I'm excited for it.

01:06:07.000 I wouldn't call myself a doomer, but I'm a skeptic.

01:06:09.000 Would you guys inject a cryptocurrency into you to control machines?

01:06:15.000 There's a patent for monitoring your body levels or something.

01:06:19.000 It's a Microsoft patent.

01:06:20.000 06 06 06 something like that. Yeah, you either eat it or you inject it

01:06:20.000 Creepy!

01:06:24.000 You put a tattoo on and it can measure you if you're looking at a commercial

01:06:27.000 It can tell that you're seeing that commercial and then it'll pay you crypto for watching it

01:06:32.000 Creepy dude, and you're gonna be able to turn your machines on from a distance like with would you do it?

01:06:38.000 Because you're gonna be tracked you're gonna be able to turn your electricity on in your home

01:06:41.000 The moment you walk in your home home without having to call a company as you wake up.

01:06:45.000 You don't need to start for you.

01:06:47.000 You're not going to need to send in your identification or anything.

01:06:49.000 You're going to literally walk in and you're going to scan.

01:06:51.000 It's going to get your address and it's going to know it's going to be able

01:06:53.000 to walk into your friend's house and power their stuff while you're there

01:06:56.000 like contribute to their network.

01:06:58.000 Sure, but like you can kind of already do some of that, right?

01:07:01.000 I don't know, like, I just got a new apartment and there's, like, literally I can control my whole apartment from my phone.

01:07:07.000 I can Venmo my friend.

01:07:08.000 Right, exactly.

01:07:09.000 Which is basically, like, the rudimentary beginnings of contributing, you know?

01:07:13.000 Sure.

01:07:13.000 Right, right.

01:07:14.000 The issue is, it's decentralized.

01:07:16.000 Decentralization is epic.

01:07:18.000 We need more of it.

01:07:20.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:07:21.000 I think there's positives and negatives. All right, well, let's jump to a new story then.

01:07:24.000 PolitiFact has archived a fact check. They have rebunked the lab leak hypothesis.

01:07:35.000 Archived fact check. Tucker Carlson Guest airs debunked conspiracy theory that COVID-19

01:07:41.000 was created in a lab.

01:07:43.000 Interesting, they have an editor's note from May 17th, 2021.

01:07:45.000 The great rebunking, they say. 0.71

01:07:49.000 When this fact-check was first published in September 2020, PolitiFact sources included researchers who asserted the SARS-CoV-2 virus could not have been manipulated.

01:07:59.000 That assertion is now more widely disputed.

01:08:02.000 For that reason, we are removing this fact check from our database pending a more thorough review.

01:08:07.000 Currently, we consider the claim to be unsupported by evidence and in dispute.

01:08:12.000 The original fact check in its entirety is preserved below for transparency and archival purposes.

01:08:17.000 Read our May 2021 report for more information.

01:08:19.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:08:20.000 What they're basically saying is they published fake news based on some guy's opinion.

01:08:24.000 Let me stress, they say, researchers who asserted PolitiFact, can we change your name to PolitOpinion?

01:08:31.000 Because having some guys come on and say, here's what I think, is not fact-checking, it's opinion-checking.

01:08:38.000 I could pull the opinion out of the ass of some homeless guy in my alley, who says that he thinks it's not true, and I can publish it on my website. 0.74

01:08:44.000 How about I do that? 0.97

01:08:45.000 I don't know who these researchers are.

01:08:47.000 This is what annoys me about the mainstream media.

01:08:50.000 Our opinion, guys, are facts.

01:08:52.000 Your opinion, guys, are wrong.

01:08:54.000 That's the name of the game.

01:08:55.000 Yeah.

01:08:56.000 I mean, if you don't have total contempt for the New York Times or the Washington Post yet, I don't know what it would take.

01:09:01.000 One of the weird things about facts is they can be wrong.

01:09:04.000 Like, a fact can be not right.

01:09:07.000 What do you mean?

01:09:08.000 Like, if you say, the sky is red, that is a fact.

01:09:12.000 That is a factual statement.

01:09:13.000 It is not correct.

01:09:14.000 It's a faux fact.

01:09:15.000 It is also wrong, but it's not an opinion.

01:09:17.000 It's a statement of fact that is not right.

01:09:20.000 That's actually a good point.

01:09:22.000 And I think you understand this.

01:09:25.000 You have to make a statement of fact in order to be sued for defamation.

01:09:28.000 It's a false statement of fact.

01:09:30.000 Right.

01:09:31.000 But it has to be legally considered a statement of fact.

01:09:33.000 There's a factual statement in this context, though, right?

01:09:35.000 So this is clearly susceptible to fact-checking, right?

01:09:37.000 Like, did the virus come from a lab or not?

01:09:40.000 I think the real question is, would it be a conspiracy theory?

01:09:44.000 And I would argue that it couldn't be a conspiracy theory because there's no conspiracy theorized, right?

01:09:49.000 Well, not just that.

01:09:51.000 When this story came out, it was a, is it possible?

01:09:54.000 No one said it is.

01:09:56.000 Well, a lot of people said it was, but like in media, in conservative media, in independent media, they were saying interesting, interesting.

01:10:03.000 And the reason for it, like right when the story broke, I even talked about it before there was anything happening in the U.S.

01:10:08.000 because the Wuhan Institute was right next to the wet market.

01:10:12.000 So everybody was like, yo, And you don't, you don't have to say, you don't have to think there's like some colluding Chinese scientist deciding to, you know, evil and unleash this virus on everybody. 0.83

01:10:21.000 You could be like, somebody made a mistake.

01:10:24.000 That's not a conspiracy theory, right?

01:10:26.000 You know, if one person could have done something, it's not a conspiracy, right?

01:10:29.000 I always said this about that.

01:10:30.000 I think I told you this joke or before, like people would say the Notre Dame, the idea that Notre Dame burned because of arson.

01:10:35.000 Oh, that's a conspiracy theory.

01:10:37.000 No, one person can burn down a building.

01:10:40.000 Or it could have been a dude smoking who flicked a cigarette.

01:10:43.000 Right.

01:10:44.000 Could have been an accident, could have been... Intentional, whatever.

01:10:44.000 Exactly.

01:10:47.000 Right.

01:10:48.000 So this is the problem with today's media, is that if it doesn't fit the narrative and they want power, they will immediately assert opinion as fact and get away with it.

01:10:55.000 It's also, they see their jobs totally wrong.

01:10:59.000 You know, it's literally just since Trump.

01:11:02.000 Since Trump, they've seen their jobs no longer as, like, discovering truth, but rather policing heresy, right?

01:11:10.000 So, here's a weird fact.

01:11:11.000 Did you know that, like, at the turn of the century, there... Okay, here's the question.

01:11:18.000 What do you think the most popular major was at the turn of the 20th century?

01:11:21.000 The most popular what?

01:11:22.000 Major in college.

01:11:23.000 What do you think people graduated in the most?

01:11:24.000 Folklore and mythology.

01:11:26.000 Close enough.

01:11:26.000 Theology.

01:11:27.000 Wow.

01:11:29.000 There's always going to be a market for mediocre intellects who can do nothing but point and say something doesn't fit conventional wisdom. 0.57

01:11:39.000 Right.

01:11:39.000 So we have to do something with those people.

01:11:41.000 And in the turn of the century, you know, the received wisdom meant that they would all be theology majors policing heresy.

01:11:47.000 Now they're all journalists policing conspiracy theories.

01:11:50.000 Everything's a conspiracy, even when one person does it.

01:11:53.000 Because conspiracy theory just means story we don't agree with.

01:11:57.000 Correct.

01:11:58.000 But I have to stress, PolitiFact did no research on this.

01:12:02.000 None whatsoever.

01:12:03.000 They get an opinion, and some guy goes, in my opinion, I think it's not true.

01:12:07.000 Debunked!

01:12:08.000 We have officially debunked a conspiracy theory by getting a guy with an opinion to say it wasn't true.

01:12:12.000 Well, there are scientists who have tons of opinions on, like, string theory or M-theory or whatever, and they probably don't agree with each other on the math.

01:12:18.000 Which one's the conspiracy?

01:12:20.000 Whichever one the corporations dictate.

01:12:22.000 So here, I got a bunch of sources for you.

01:12:24.000 Check it out.

01:12:26.000 You may have heard that Rand Paul questioned Fauci about gain-of-function research.

01:12:31.000 Newsweek reported on this.

01:12:32.000 We've talked about it with Luke when he was here.

01:12:34.000 Gain-of-function research.

01:12:35.000 I think Luke took a more...

01:12:38.000 apocalyptic view of it, where it was like to make, you know, Luke was saying to make the virus as crazy as possible.

01:12:44.000 Gain-of-function involves, yes, increasing virility or something, but not always to make it the most lethal.

01:12:50.000 Right, you know, it doesn't mean you're going from 0 to 100.

01:12:51.000 Maybe you're going from 10 to 15, you know.

01:12:54.000 Or 10 to 11, like, what if it was, like, if this evolves in this way, how do we deal with it in this way?

01:13:01.000 And so, yes, there was funding that went to gain-of-function research.

01:13:05.000 Fauci lied.

01:13:07.000 In this testimony, even Politifex says, well, there was funding from the U.S.

01:13:13.000 to Wuhan's lab for gain-of-function research, and now the story is like maybe the lab-like thing is possible.

01:13:22.000 Let me pull up some of these things I pulled up.

01:13:23.000 So we got this.

01:13:24.000 This is from April 28, 2020.

01:13:25.000 NIH cancels funding for bat coronavirus research project.

01:13:30.000 The abrupt termination comes after the research drew President Trump's attention for its ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

01:13:36.000 A little late.

01:13:37.000 NIH was providing funding for bat coronavirus research at Wuhan's Institute of Virology.

01:13:42.000 That's where the bat coronavirus came from.

01:13:45.000 This is... Well, we don't... It came from a mile away from that place, right?

01:13:50.000 Right, exactly.

01:13:51.000 Like, across the street.

01:13:52.000 So this is TheScientist.com, a NewsGuard certified source, 100 of 100, and I use this because if it's wrong, don't get mad at me.

01:14:01.000 NewsGuard said it is the cream of the crop, the best of the best, and they reported this a year before.

01:14:05.000 We have this story from February 25th, 2019.

01:14:08.000 Human error in high biocontainment labs, a likely pandemic threat.

01:14:13.000 Incidents causing potential exposure to pathogens frequently in high-security labs.

01:14:17.000 They talk about a bunch of stories It's not necessarily about Wuhan.

01:14:17.000 You get the point.

01:14:20.000 The point is the the likelihood of a lab leak Potentially high they say human error and high is a likely pandemic threat So is it possible that a pathogen leak from a lab according to the bulletin org?

01:14:33.000 I don't know if it's like the bastion of those was not news guard certified.

01:14:36.000 They said they were they reported in 2019 it was When we go over to the Washington Post, fact-checking the Paul Fauci flap over Wuhan lab funding, this is where it gets funny because they start playing games.

01:14:47.000 Well, it's not really gain-of-reap function.

01:14:49.000 It's overly verbose.

01:14:51.000 The grant was more like dark money.

01:14:54.000 It wasn't specifically for, you know, bat coronavirus.

01:14:59.000 You sound like Fauci.

01:14:59.000 Yeah, it was huge.

01:15:00.000 You know, when you said he lied, I would be like, he was misleading.

01:15:04.000 No, he lied.

01:15:04.000 I don't know, I mean, because like, from my understanding is that he defines gain-of-function research in a very narrow and lawyerly way.

01:15:11.000 That, that's, I'm sorry, that's lying.

01:15:12.000 Okay.

01:15:13.000 How does he, do you know how he defines it?

01:15:14.000 I don't remember exactly.

01:15:16.000 We have never, I'm, with all due respect, you are wrong.

01:15:19.000 We have never provided funding for gain-of-function research.

01:15:22.000 And then you have PolitiFact.

01:15:23.000 Yes, they did gain-of-function research.

01:15:25.000 But Fauci's arguing semantics. 0.99

01:15:27.000 You know, pharma got a lot of shit from everybody for a really long time. 0.98

01:15:34.000 And, you know, our public health authorities were always held in extremely high esteem. 0.99

01:15:38.000 Like, if you actually looked at that, right?

01:15:39.000 What are people's opinion of the NIH, CDC, versus what are the people's opinion of pharma companies?

01:15:44.000 NIH looks like it probably caused the pandemic and killed a few million people, or has a role.

01:15:50.000 I think the lab leak hypothesis is right.

01:15:52.000 And if not NIH, then institutional public health, right?

01:15:57.000 And pharma companies solved it.

01:16:02.000 Did you see the video from the White House where they're all hugging and kissing and like no one's wearing any masks?

01:16:02.000 Right.

01:16:06.000 No.

01:16:07.000 Yeah.

01:16:08.000 That's new.

01:16:09.000 And so I tweeted the pandemic was over somewhat facetiously.

01:16:12.000 YouTube, chill.

01:16:13.000 I'm making a point that the White House, nobody was doing anything.

01:16:18.000 And I mean, so there we go.

01:16:20.000 I mean, the taxes in Florida have lifted restrictions, obviously, a while ago.

01:16:24.000 And now I was recently watching there's a CNN segment with Fauci and Chris Cuomo.

01:16:29.000 And Cuomo was like, why aren't there vaccine passports?

01:16:33.000 And Fauci said, because we can't force people to get the vaccine.

01:16:37.000 So that means, if the guideline is if you're vaccinated, you're okay, take your mask off, and these businesses can choose what they want to do, what else is left?

01:16:44.000 People who don't want to get it aren't going to get it.

01:16:46.000 But I will mention one thing that's really hilarious.

01:16:49.000 How does it make sense that if you get the vaccine, you can still get sick, but you'll be asymptomatic like Bill Maher was recently?

01:16:57.000 So you'll be able to give people COVID, right?

01:17:02.000 That's not my understanding of the latest sciences that suggest that it's very not transmissible by people who've been vaccinated.

01:17:08.000 In the same way that it's not transmissible by people who've had it before.

01:17:11.000 Then I will stop right there and say, all right, makes sense.

01:17:14.000 There you go.

01:17:15.000 So then why should people who aren't vaccinated wear masks?

01:17:20.000 Who aren't vaccinated wear masks?

01:17:22.000 So that other people who aren't vaccinated don't get sick.

01:17:24.000 Well, I mean, like, at this point, that, yeah, I think you're right, that there's, that's kind of a weird argument to be making.

01:17:30.000 In general, I think once, you know, once, you know, mask wearing before was a public health measure because there's no other measure available at all to, like, deal with spread.

01:17:38.000 But, like, once everybody has a personal choice about whether to be vaccinated or not, the value of masks...

01:17:44.000 You know what's really irksome?

01:17:46.000 What?

01:17:47.000 The lab leak hypothesis was published last year by the Washington Post.

01:17:51.000 And that was really the first time I saw it.

01:17:54.000 There was also stories from the Daily Mail and a few others that were asking these questions.

01:17:58.000 And immediately, very left-leaning Democrat media said it's a conspiracy theory.

01:18:03.000 PolitiFact, for instance, is extremely positive.

01:18:05.000 Everyone who did that should be out of a job in a properly functioning media environment.

01:18:10.000 Every one of those journalists, that would be like... Because, like, think about, are there more important... How many more important questions are there than, how did the pandemic that killed three million people start?

01:18:19.000 Right?

01:18:20.000 And you went out there and you said the theory that actually looks like the most prominent was impossible and a debunked conspiracy theory?

01:18:28.000 Based on opinion.

01:18:28.000 Quit!

01:18:29.000 Go be a barista.

01:18:30.000 Do something else.

01:18:32.000 Go be a barista.

01:18:32.000 You're not a journalist anymore.

01:18:32.000 livelihoods destroyed in it like people that would talk about it online would get shut down right like lost revenue

01:18:38.000 and things I Agree with you. Yeah, go be a barista. You're not a

01:18:42.000 journalist anymore like you you're a journalist Maybe we need like professional licensing for journalists

01:18:47.000 in the same way that we have I wonder now lawyers I'll say this.

01:18:51.000 Anybody out there who knows anybody who had a strike or was taken down or suspended for talking about LabLeak should file a lawsuit against PolitiFact.

01:19:01.000 There's real damages there.

01:19:03.000 Yeah, actual damages for defamation, right?

01:19:06.000 Although, I mean, since it probably, you know, they would say they weren't intentionally lying.

01:19:12.000 Yeah.

01:19:13.000 Reckless disregard for the truth by claiming that an opinion of a researcher was a fact.

01:19:19.000 Look, James O'Keefe won that New York Times motion to dismiss.

01:19:22.000 He won the motion to dismiss.

01:19:23.000 Right.

01:19:24.000 Which is where the judge said, if you're gonna insert opinions, you have to say it's an opinion.

01:19:28.000 That makes sense to me.

01:19:29.000 We'll see where it goes from there.

01:19:30.000 But at least he got to that point.

01:19:32.000 Yeah.

01:19:33.000 So you can't just, I think it's defeatist to be like, well, they'll probably say no.

01:19:36.000 Well, I'll file it anyway.

01:19:37.000 You have to be able to allege malice, right?

01:19:39.000 Or reckless disregard.

01:19:41.000 But reckless disregard has a technical meaning, and that's ultimately going to be like conscious disregard, right?

01:19:47.000 And proving that's always going to be very challenging.

01:19:50.000 But you've got to fight.

01:19:50.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:19:51.000 You've got to fight.

01:19:52.000 And the O'Keefe case has the unique thing of they have the timestamp of when the emails were sent and the impossibility of comment.

01:20:00.000 Well, you know, we just don't control the media.

01:20:02.000 asserting the problem of asserting males.

01:20:03.000 So all these news outlets started lying.

01:20:06.000 YouTube just agreed with the liars and then negatively impacted people.

01:20:10.000 And now they're all starting to come around.

01:20:12.000 Why is it that conservatives just buckle so easily?

01:20:15.000 Well, you know, we just don't control the media.

01:20:18.000 And it'd be really nice if we did.

01:20:20.000 Yeah, the media became more and more left leaning and maybe it'll change, you know,

01:20:26.000 Daily Wire's doing particularly well.

01:20:28.000 We need to overturn New York Times v. Sullivan.

01:20:31.000 It's too hard to prove defamation.

01:20:33.000 The intent standard that we've talked about, malice, is way... because it means you have to prove someone's state of mind when they lie.

01:20:40.000 Wouldn't it be more reasonable to just be able to allege defamation, file a suit, say to a judge, here's the fact that they got wrong and proof, and if it's true, the judge can say, issue a correction?

01:20:53.000 And also, I mean, think about it from the perspective of, like, what is defamation, right?

01:20:53.000 Right.

01:20:57.000 Defamation is you've said something that's injured someone else's reputation.

01:21:00.000 Well, the person whose reputation is injured is an innocent victim who had nothing to do with it, right?

01:21:04.000 You just talked about them and lied about them.

01:21:07.000 And said something false about them that hurt them, that did them damage.

01:21:10.000 Maybe you should just be liable for that.

01:21:12.000 Maybe we shouldn't look at whether or not you knew you were lying.

01:21:15.000 Or maybe we just have a lower standard of negligence.

01:21:18.000 If you didn't take reasonable care and you said something about someone that was false and did them damage, you should pay for it.

01:21:26.000 Is it so hard for the New York Times to just put, apologies, we were wrong about this?

01:21:30.000 Right.

01:21:31.000 Or, God forbid, they have a process where their editors ensure that whenever they make factual statements about someone that could injure their reputation, they take reasonable care.

01:21:43.000 They act like reasonable journalists.

01:21:45.000 The standard shouldn't be, did the New York Times knowingly lie?

01:21:50.000 The standard should be, did the New York Times take reasonable care?

01:21:52.000 What we do is we put the burden on the, uh, the plaintiff so that, but we get rid of that standard.

01:22:00.000 So basically make it so that you have to show the court what you perceive to be defamation and evidence to support that, that it's what they said was demonstrably false.

01:22:13.000 Only after those two criteria are met, then the person being sued has to respond.

01:22:17.000 I mean, that's kind of the way it works now, right?

01:22:19.000 You have to, you know, allege.

01:22:21.000 I mean, like, go a step forward in actually presenting your case of, like, here's proof to state that it's an incorrect statement.

01:22:29.000 Yeah, I mean, usually that's done.

01:22:30.000 That's the easy part of defamation, right?

01:22:32.000 Usually when you bring a defamation case, you have that evidence.

01:22:34.000 And honestly, like, you probably have to do that.

01:22:36.000 And then if so like if I said something and then someone filed a suit against me and said

01:22:41.000 he said you know x equals y but you know actually it's x equals z then my response is just here's an

01:22:49.000 article from the New York Times you know or whatever here's the evidence backing that up

01:22:52.000 would that be sufficient? I mean it would be again probably because you have to show that are you did

01:22:58.000 you take reasonable care right like in And what reasonable care is going to look like is probably developed through judges, but we know what it looks like in the context of journalism.

01:23:06.000 Did you research the claim?

01:23:07.000 Did you try and verify it was true or false?

01:23:09.000 Did you make a good faith effort to do so?

01:23:10.000 If yes, then probably don't.

01:23:12.000 It's tough.

01:23:13.000 It is tough.

01:23:15.000 It's a lot better than, can you prove that I knew I was lying or that I consciously disregarded The problem now is the New York Times can lie, PolitiFact can lie, and you cannot do anything about it, and it gets put into the record.

01:23:30.000 It gets put into a historical record, an encyclopedia, and then people end up believing insane BS.

01:23:35.000 And that's not the way it was in this country before New York Times v. Sullivan, which constitutionalized, right?

01:23:40.000 Before that, there was libel law in every state.

01:23:42.000 It totally coexisted with the First Amendment.

01:23:44.000 That's not—except until, like, the Warren court decided, no, we're going to eviscerate state-level libel law and impose new federal rules.

01:23:53.000 And then, it's not the way it is in other countries, too, right?

01:23:55.000 Like, in Europe, especially in England, like, blah blah blah sounds a lot more like what I talked about, where the standard is not, dude, can you prove they said something false, but rather, like, did you take reasonable care?

01:24:05.000 Yeah.

01:24:05.000 I'm concerned, like, if YouTubers smack-talk each other, that one will get busted.

01:24:10.000 If we repeal Times v. Sullivan, which I don't actually know, what is it exactly, Times v. Sullivan?

01:24:14.000 So, Times v. Sullivan is the case that sets the standard for intent in the defamation case.

01:24:20.000 And that's distinct from what you're talking about.

01:24:21.000 Like, when you're smack-talking, that could be, like, opinion, hyperbole.

01:24:25.000 Like, if it's not intentionally meant as true, then it's not something that could be defamatory in the first place, right?

01:24:31.000 It has to be, like, a false statement, you know, put forward for its truth.

01:24:35.000 I don't know if I got that exactly right.

01:24:37.000 Opinions would still be protected.

01:24:39.000 Opinions would still be protected.

01:24:40.000 The question is, like, once you've demonstrated that somebody said something false about you, What do you have to prove about their state of mind, right?

01:24:48.000 And if the standard is actual malice, you have to prove not only that they said something false, but that they knew it was false when they said it.

01:24:55.000 Or that they had what's called reckless disregard for the truth, but that reckless does a lot of work.

01:24:59.000 You have to prove like conscious knowledge of or conscious disregard of things they should have done.

01:25:06.000 Potentially in the James O'Keefe case in the New York Times.

01:25:07.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:25:08.000 They didn't even bother calling the people to, like, fact-check.

01:25:11.000 They just said, James O'Keefe is lying.

01:25:11.000 Right.

01:25:14.000 It's like, well, did you actually look into that?

01:25:15.000 No.

01:25:16.000 How do you know he's lying?

01:25:17.000 We don't.

01:25:17.000 That might get reversed on appeal.

01:25:18.000 You know, like, that's just one state court judge.

01:25:20.000 You know, we don't know if that ultimately proves it.

01:25:23.000 Whereas, again, negligence is very common throughout tort law, and that's not intent.

01:25:27.000 Like, you can just be negligent if you didn't take reasonable care.

01:25:30.000 So if we repeal Times v. Solvent, could you be negligent and not be held responsible?

01:25:34.000 Well, if we repeal Times v. Sullivan, Times v. Sullivan set a federal rule for what the intent standard had to be in defamation cases.

01:25:42.000 Repealing it means, okay, now we're back to state by state, themselves figuring out what the rule should be in defamation cases.

01:25:49.000 And if I'm in Texas, using a YouTube video, whose headquarters is in California, talking about someone in North Dakota, then are all three states involved?

01:25:58.000 Welcome to choice of law!

01:26:01.000 Like, that's actually a very com—this is not, you know, defamation's not the only area of law.

01:26:04.000 There are obviously areas of law—contract law, for example.

01:26:07.000 where most things aren't, where things aren't federalized in civil litigation.

01:26:11.000 And so oftentimes a question comes up of, which state's law do you choose to apply?

01:26:15.000 And so that's very complicated.

01:26:18.000 And each state has their own, here's another, really, really been around.

01:26:23.000 Each state has their own laws about how to choose which law applies in their courts.

01:26:27.000 Well, Texas and Florida's social media laws will be interesting.

01:26:31.000 Yeah, I mean, so that actually is an interesting example of, I mean, not quite in the social litigation,

01:26:36.000 in the civil litigation context but uh... maybe

01:26:39.000 I But yeah, like, different states have different laws, and, you know, people will find ways to

01:26:47.000 Especially, like, one thing that happens, I mean, in almost every business contract, if you sign or a lease, you'll notice that there's a choice of law clause in those leases.

01:26:54.000 You sign for an apartment that says this contract will be governed by the law of the District of Columbia or whatever, right?

01:26:59.000 Like, that's, you know, because that's a smart thing to include because it eliminates that dispute.

01:27:04.000 You can contractually agree to which state's law applies.

01:27:07.000 Yeah.

01:27:08.000 Well, defamation is probably one of the most pressing problems that we're facing right now, especially in cultural politics and politics.

01:27:19.000 The record as it stands over the past 10 years is fake.

01:27:23.000 Yeah.

01:27:24.000 Which record?

01:27:24.000 Agreed.

01:27:26.000 Well, a lot of it, yeah.

01:27:26.000 Everything.

01:27:28.000 Because the paper of record was putting out fake news, so the record is fake.

01:27:31.000 The New York Times has put out a ton of fake news.

01:27:33.000 Like, they won awards for it.

01:27:35.000 Dude, we've lived in the age of obfuscation.

01:27:39.000 There's so many... It's a dark age.

01:27:42.000 It really has become kind of, there's so much light that it is blinding us and we can't see, so we might as well be in the dark.

01:27:47.000 I mean, before they screwed up, but at least they tried.

01:27:50.000 You know, the New York Times got rid of its public editor.

01:27:54.000 I mean, they got rid of their copy editors.

01:27:56.000 Do they even have fact checkers anymore?

01:27:58.000 I mean, I assume so, but... Remember when you used to get a phone call from a fact-checker and they're like, hi, my name's John, I'm a fact-checker with the New York Times?

01:28:04.000 Yeah, I got one from the New Yorker a while back.

01:28:06.000 The New Yorker doesn't.

01:28:07.000 Yeah, they still do it.

01:28:08.000 Maybe it's just too expensive to do, and so whatever, just let your activist journalist say whatever they want.

01:28:13.000 I think it was the New Yorker that put out a fake story about me.

01:28:16.000 That's wild.

01:28:17.000 to quotes together to make a totally out of context quote.

01:28:20.000 So basically what happened was a story I told was offensive to some people who then threatened I guess I don't know

01:28:26.000 what happened I think they threatened a lawsuit to the New Yorker just wrote what they wanted them to write. And so

01:28:31.000 then they the New Yorker accused me of giving them erroneous statements which is obviously false.

01:28:38.000 What happened was a guy at the New Yorker took two different stories and combined two quotes into one with like a space.

01:28:45.000 So it sounded like two separate sentences from 50 Minutes Apart was one sentence.

01:28:51.000 Totally changing the context of what I had said.

01:28:53.000 And then obviously when the other individuals involved in the story saw that it was lying and making them look bad,

01:28:53.000 Right.

01:29:00.000 which I never said, they told them that's not true, I never said that.

01:29:03.000 So then instead of taking responsibility, they said Tim Pool provided erroneous statements.

01:29:07.000 So then I called and said, no I didn't, and the journalist told me to go screw myself, he wouldn't correct it.

01:29:13.000 Wow.

01:29:13.000 Yeah.

01:29:13.000 And it was funny because the issue was the person that I was, the story I was telling

01:29:18.000 involved a massive corporation who scared the New Yorker.

01:29:22.000 They weren't scared of just one guy.

01:29:24.000 So they ultimately just told me to screw off. 0.99

01:29:26.000 Yeah, evil, evil people. 0.99

01:29:28.000 Evil.

01:29:29.000 Evil.

01:29:30.000 I have so little time for modern journalism.

01:29:33.000 It's so, it's so terrible.

01:29:34.000 It's just, it's maybe the most endlessly frustrating.

01:29:37.000 It's like, because every day you see a news article and every day you're like, oh, another, you know, at best misleading article from...

01:29:46.000 It's a big part of why I am concerned with cancel culture and canceling, because in an age of propaganda, you need to have access to be able to speak who you are, and so people can see it from the mouth.

01:29:57.000 And the same people policing everybody for misinformation and heresy are the same people... I mean, I had a talk with a journalist the other day, and they were talking about how no misinformation is a real threat, and I'm like, You realize that your outlets put forward a theory that a billionaire real estate magnate turned president was really secretly a Russian agent.

01:30:18.000 Think about that for two seconds.

01:30:19.000 That would get laughed out of a Hollywood plot.

01:30:22.000 And yet that took hold of the liberal media for three years and was promulgated by all the reputable media outlets.

01:30:29.000 It's a total joke.

01:30:30.000 And we have the First Amendment in this country.

01:30:33.000 In general, the things that should be protected are statements of opinion about the news.

01:30:38.000 Like, it's one thing to say, like, I mean, I think we should be much stricter when it comes to defamatory content, i.e.

01:30:44.000 you say something false about a person that hurts them, that injures them, you should be held liable for it.

01:30:49.000 Let's play a game.

01:30:49.000 Are you in a public debate?

01:30:51.000 Wild West.

01:30:52.000 Let's play a game.

01:30:53.000 Andrew Marantz of the New York Times.

01:30:55.000 I know Andrew.

01:30:56.000 I'm sorry, of the New Yorker.

01:30:58.000 Mishmashed two quotes of mine from two different, it was a one long story with different chapters per se.

01:31:05.000 And he took one quote and one quote and he mashed them together.

01:31:08.000 It was about Vice.

01:31:09.000 Vice took issue with the statement provided.

01:31:13.000 So in order to avoid My response.

01:31:17.000 Morantz, or someone, added to the article, quote, An earlier version of this article included a quotation

01:31:24.000 from Tim Pool concerning Vice News' coverage in Ferguson. The quotation has been removed

01:31:29.000 because it contained several errors.

01:31:31.000 That's vague.

01:31:33.000 It sounds like the errors were mine.

01:31:35.000 It was a quotation provided with errors in it.

01:31:37.000 The quotation was theirs.

01:31:37.000 That's clever.

01:31:40.000 Andrew Marantz wrote a fake story because, in my opinion, he's a liar who realized he could make a salacious, juicy story by mashing quotes together for the New Yorker, and the New Yorker published fake news.

01:31:53.000 And I'll add one more to it.

01:31:54.000 There's another story from the New Yorker, which they pressured us and tried to publish fake news, and they embellished this most insane story about me and my friend. 0.99

01:32:04.000 We get a call from a fact checker, and they're asking us outrageous, stupid things. 0.98

01:32:08.000 And I'm like, all of these are exaggerations. 0.99

01:32:10.000 And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, come on, come on.

01:32:12.000 They're asking me, you sleep in a closet, don't you?

01:32:15.000 And I was like, no, it's a boxcar.

01:32:15.000 What?

01:32:17.000 You know the box, the railway apartments in New York, where it's like you gotta walk through one room to get to the next?

01:32:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's like a closet.

01:32:24.000 And I was like, it has a window.

01:32:25.000 No, no, no, but you know what I mean?

01:32:27.000 I was like, sure, it's like a closet, I guess.

01:32:27.000 Like, it's like a closet.

01:32:30.000 Or something to that effect.

01:32:31.000 That's the New Yorker.

01:32:32.000 They write fake news. 1.00

01:32:34.000 Andrew Marantz is a liar. 1.00

01:32:36.000 Do not trust him. 1.00

01:32:37.000 He writes fake stories and he will smear you.

01:32:40.000 Statement of fact.

01:32:41.000 Wait.

01:32:43.000 Here's what Morantz wrote about me in his book.

01:32:44.000 Let's see here.

01:32:46.000 Talking to Chamberlain about politics felt a bit like talking to a young Earth creationist

01:32:50.000 about dinosaurs.

01:32:52.000 I considered some of his core beliefs, for example that Donald Trump should be trusted

01:32:55.000 with a nuclear arsenal, to be irrational, almost to the point of incomprehensibility.

01:32:58.000 But once we had agreed to disagree on a few core premises, we could start to have a conversation.

01:33:04.000 His goal the whole time was to pretend that because he had access, he was writing the

01:33:11.000 Instead what he did was, he came to my apartment, and I thought he recorded the whole thing.

01:33:16.000 And I was like, excellent.

01:33:18.000 And so the story was very simple.

01:33:20.000 I said, on one night I did X, on another night I did X and they did Y. He combined those to make it seem like Vice failed to do something on a particular night, which resulted in a failure for the company.

01:33:33.000 I can't get into too much of the specifics, you can read the story, I suppose.

01:33:37.000 Vice got mad about it. 1.00

01:33:38.000 They were like, that's bullshit. 1.00

01:33:40.000 That never happened. 1.00

01:33:41.000 And so...

01:33:42.000 And he wouldn't correct.

01:33:43.000 That's so embarrassing.

01:33:44.000 Well, you see what they wrote.

01:33:45.000 You see what he wrote.

01:33:46.000 It contained errors.

01:33:48.000 He didn't say they're very, they're, they're Weasley.

01:33:50.000 This is what the media does.

01:33:51.000 Do not trust these organizations.

01:33:54.000 Take a look at, uh, there was, man, I don't want to get too much into it.

01:33:59.000 Take a look at what Lauren Southern has been posting about the smear piece about her.

01:34:03.000 They're, they're, they're, I, I, I am surprised how often these conservative personalities

01:34:09.000 are like, these journalists are cool.

01:34:10.000 I trust them.

01:34:11.000 Why?

01:34:12.000 They're going to lie about you.

01:34:14.000 Do not give them money.

01:34:16.000 It's like what they say with the police.

01:34:17.000 You don't have to say anything.

01:34:20.000 You have a right to remain silent.

01:34:21.000 Maybe I shouldn't have talked to that journalist yesterday.

01:34:23.000 I had some journalist call me and ask me about the Trump poll watcher video.

01:34:28.000 I was like, I'll just answer questions.

01:34:31.000 I almost do it like, maybe I'll be hurt, but also at some point I actually like putting things on the record with them.

01:34:37.000 And now, you know what they can do?

01:34:38.000 What?

01:34:38.000 I'll explain to you guys how it works.

01:34:40.000 Let's say you get a phone call from a journalist.

01:34:42.000 Like, hey, I was wondering, I wanted to ask you a question about the video you posted.

01:34:44.000 It was a video about a dog doing a backflip.

01:34:46.000 And you're like, oh yeah, yeah, I was walking down the street and I saw a dog do a backflip.

01:34:49.000 What do you want to know?

01:34:50.000 Oh, what kind of dog was it?

01:34:51.000 Uh, I think it was a German Shepherd.

01:34:52.000 Pretty big for a dog doing a backflip.

01:34:54.000 Interesting, interesting.

01:34:55.000 And, uh, how did you feel about it?

01:34:56.000 It was alright, I guess.

01:34:58.000 Okay, thank you.

01:34:58.000 Oh, well, have a nice day.

01:34:59.000 Then the article comes out.

01:35:01.000 I called Will Chamberlain to ask about a video he posted, and he was immediately agitated and aggressive.

01:35:06.000 I was kind of put off by his anger and animosity, but nonetheless, I decided to ask him the question anyway.

01:35:11.000 Fair point.

01:35:11.000 And then as soon as you say, that's not true.

01:35:13.000 scared me. He seemed angry at the dog, almost violent, and I was concerned he

01:35:13.000 They're all opinions.

01:35:18.000 would actually hurt dogs in the future. When he explained to me he was a German 1.00

01:35:21.000 shepherd, I could hear the hatred in his voice. I think this man is violent and

01:35:24.000 dangerous and needs to be arrested immediately before he hurts an animal." 0.72

01:35:27.000 And then as soon as you say, that's not true, they're all opinions. And do you

01:35:32.000 have the phone call recorded? That's right.

01:35:34.000 I didn't record this one.

01:35:35.000 I should have.

01:35:36.000 That is true.

01:35:37.000 That's smart.

01:35:37.000 about you. When you get on the phone with someone, you give them the ability to say,

01:35:41.000 I spoke with them on the phone and this is how I felt. Swipe.

01:35:45.000 No, no, don't answer. I always do everything over email and writing. That's smart.

01:35:49.000 That's smart. That's probably how I should have done this. Because then I can just

01:35:51.000 publish the emails and be like, but they can still say in the email, they were furious. I

01:35:55.000 was shocked. They were, they're threats of, I felt unsafe.

01:35:59.000 Peace.

01:36:00.000 The emotions I felt when I read that text.

01:36:03.000 Those scratches on that wall.

01:36:05.000 I played the author.

01:36:07.000 That's actually a good general practice.

01:36:09.000 Liberal outlets can send you written questions.

01:36:11.000 I was gonna say, I think there's too many news organizations, but I don't want it to centralize into the hands of a few, so maybe it's good.

01:36:18.000 You know what I do?

01:36:20.000 When I get emails from, like, liberal organizations, I respond with a statement like, you know, the rioters on January 6th should be in prison.

01:36:31.000 And that's my response.

01:36:32.000 Smart.

01:36:33.000 So it's like, what are they gonna say?

01:36:35.000 Well, we asked him about whether or not he was a fan of Bitcoin, and he said the rioters should be in prison.

01:36:41.000 Jail.

01:36:43.000 The jail meme.

01:36:43.000 Yeah.

01:36:44.000 Right.

01:36:44.000 They'll still try and play games, though.

01:36:46.000 They'll say with an unrelated and nonsensical statement.

01:36:46.000 You gotta be careful.

01:36:49.000 Or something, you know. 0.99

01:36:49.000 He's obviously crazy. 0.99

01:36:50.000 Authoritarian Tim Poole. 0.99

01:36:52.000 Yeah, yep, yep.

01:36:53.000 Insane. 0.96

01:36:54.000 And they can say he responded with a white supremacist slogan. 0.58

01:36:58.000 Because that's an opinion.

01:36:59.000 That's why you make the news.

01:37:01.000 You are the news.

01:37:02.000 That's why we make videos and you put yourself online because no one can twist that yet.

01:37:06.000 Deepfakes are coming.

01:37:08.000 Ian, we talk about how history is written by the victors and at least for me I always thought about that in the instance of like war and wars being fought.

01:37:16.000 That is not the case.

01:37:17.000 History has been written by the victors.

01:37:19.000 It has been written by people who won the culture war and they are shaping the way that people think now and the direction that we're pointed now.

01:37:26.000 It's a huge problem and I don't think that we Let's jump over to superchats!

01:37:33.000 If you have not already, give a little tap to that like button because it seriously does help.

01:37:38.000 But more importantly, always sharing the video is massive.

01:37:43.000 There was someone who posted the metrics and they were like, look what happens when you share and it's like it just...

01:37:47.000 That's how we're gonna actually... I mean, maybe it's not perfect, but it helps us and the work we do when you share and it spreads the ideas to people who might not have them.

01:37:57.000 Maybe you know someone and you're like, they just don't understand.

01:37:59.000 Well, maybe they haven't seen an episode of TimCast.

01:38:01.000 I don't know.

01:38:02.000 Go to TimCast.com.

01:38:02.000 Smash the like button.

01:38:03.000 We are gonna have...

01:38:05.000 I'm not kidding you.

01:38:06.000 You are absolutely going to love the upcoming bonus segment because it's going to be a wild ride of crazy conspiracies, Donald Trump from the future, time traveling, and a whole bunch of crazy stuff. 0.91

01:38:18.000 It's going to be fun and silly.

01:38:21.000 But you're going to want to hear this stuff, because, uh, I mean, there's some really weird stories, and this stuff isn't relatively new, but we're going to go through these crazy conspiracies that look at real things that make people say, how is that possible?

01:38:33.000 Time travel.

01:38:35.000 That's right.

01:38:36.000 Anyway, we're going to wait some Super Chats.

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01:38:41.000 Make 1984 fiction again says, just your weekly reminder that total deaths per capita in the U.S.

01:38:45.000 has not changed in 10 years, including last year.

01:38:48.000 But hey, let's destroy the economy and redefine our culture and society for it. 0.93

01:38:51.000 Now, that came from a John Hopkins op-ed, that official data, but I don't think that's correct.

01:38:56.000 I think, yeah, excess deaths were up.

01:38:58.000 They were, yeah, yeah.

01:38:59.000 So there was an op-ed.

01:39:00.000 There was a global pandemic.

01:39:01.000 Right, but here's what happened.

01:39:03.000 There was an article written by a doctor for, I believe it was John Hopkins University, you know, page, blog or whatever, that showed data points saying that it didn't go up, and then it was immediately challenged by a bunch of people.

01:39:16.000 I just gotta say this, when I see one story say one thing, and like, a thousand say something else, showing data points, I understand we just went on this big rant about media lying.

01:39:25.000 That's why I try to look in aggregate and try and track the data myself.

01:39:28.000 So I'll look at these institutions.

01:39:30.000 There was one story that said they weren't up, and I'm like, I don't think that's gonna happen.

01:39:33.000 I don't remember exactly what his name is, Lyman Stoneski, but he always had really good charts on Twitter that were showing excess deaths, and I mean, excess deaths were up.

01:39:41.000 They were up everywhere.

01:39:43.000 Not only that, but it's interesting that someone would assert they weren't when we have stories of violent crime skyrocketing and murders being up.

01:39:50.000 So if murders are going up, wouldn't that indicate the numbers should be up?

01:39:54.000 I guess you could try and argue maybe the car accidents are down too, because, you know, like that's a big contributor to deaths as well, right?

01:40:00.000 Like there was, and apparently there were like way fewer, for example, like child injuries.

01:40:05.000 Like there were whole, part of what happened as a result of the pandemic is like those wards got crushed in the hospitals.

01:40:10.000 Now here's something I care about.

01:40:12.000 Rampton says, what do y'all think about Nicole Arbor feuding with Candace Owens over cancel Chrissy Teigen and walking off Candace's panel on her show this week? 0.97

01:40:21.000 I don't care.

01:40:22.000 I don't know anything about that.

01:40:24.000 Was the argument that Chrissy Teigen shouldn't be cancelled?

01:40:27.000 I don't know.

01:40:31.000 I will try and make the best argument that a co-operative made, which is that we should stick by the principle of not cancelling people, because we should be the principled side, blah blah blah, and say that no, we don't unilaterally disarm.

01:40:44.000 I disagree.

01:40:45.000 You don't think so?

01:40:45.000 I think the right needs to be the side of uncancelling.

01:40:49.000 uh...

01:40:50.000 if all you do is say stop then they're going to keep taking ground. I don't know I

01:40:55.000 think you have to be I think of it more from a deterrence perspective right like

01:40:59.000 they they must make them live up to their own book of rules.

01:41:02.000 Fire with fire. Oh you're saying so we should cancel them.

01:41:04.000 right like you should cancel the cancelers right like Like, if, you know, the people promulgating... Anybody promulgating cancel culture should be forced to play by their own rules.

01:41:12.000 Oh, of course, of course.

01:41:13.000 But I think, additionally, the right needs to be the party of actively uncanceling people. 0.70

01:41:19.000 Sure, I absolutely agree with that, too.

01:41:21.000 Bring back Milo!

01:41:22.000 And Laura Loomer.

01:41:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:23.000 Like, I think, you know... I don't even like Laura Loomer, and I think we should bring her back.

01:41:28.000 She's an American citizen who has a right to speak.

01:41:30.000 Exactly.

01:41:33.000 I remember I was talking with some tech bro who was trying to explain to me why he and I actually agreed about censorship policy when we didn't.

01:41:40.000 It's like the supervillain in a movie being like, you know, Bond, you and I are a lot alike.

01:41:45.000 No, we're not.

01:41:46.000 You're a villain.

01:41:46.000 He's trying to say, this is actually a communications decent, like a CD different thing about copyright.

01:41:52.000 And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:41:53.000 Here's what I want.

01:41:55.000 I want you to have the same right to speak on Facebook and Twitter that you do in a public park.

01:42:00.000 That's what I want.

01:42:02.000 And he said, but there's a lot of really nasty speech on Facebook and Twitter.

01:42:05.000 And I was like, yes.

01:42:07.000 That's also the balance struck by our First Amendment.

01:42:09.000 There's a lot of nasty speech that's protected.

01:42:13.000 This is not a technocratic disagreement.

01:42:15.000 We have a values difference.

01:42:19.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:42:21.000 Eric Pabst says, nothing Biden does is surprising anymore.

01:42:24.000 After hearing him say, we the people, well, the people are the government.

01:42:27.000 So according to Biden, we are a nation of the government, by the government, for the government.

01:42:32.000 I will say, you know, the one really compelling thing that Biden has said before was, shoot another shot with the pressure!

01:42:40.000 Better calf care!

01:42:41.000 Did he get us that yet?

01:42:42.000 So you know the phrase, the banality of evil?

01:42:44.000 From Hannah Arendt?

01:42:44.000 Yes.

01:42:45.000 Yeah.

01:42:46.000 There's a banal awfulness to the Biden administration.

01:42:49.000 That's true.

01:42:50.000 Right?

01:42:50.000 What does that mean, banal?

01:42:51.000 So like, boring, pedestrian- Pedestrian?

01:42:57.000 What?

01:42:57.000 The banality of evil refers to how people just mindlessly follow orders.

01:43:01.000 So like, willful ignorance?

01:43:03.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:43:03.000 Willfully, ignorantly evil?

01:43:05.000 No, no, not like- Passive.

01:43:06.000 Just sort of passively, you know- Accepting.

01:43:09.000 Accepting of, you know, awful policy, right?

01:43:12.000 Like, the classic example is, like, we opened the show with the discussion of the smuggling children.

01:43:16.000 Like, that is just like, there's not some, you know, evil cackling person in the background.

01:43:20.000 There's just like, oh, how do we get this off the news?

01:43:23.000 Because all the kids in cages photos are bad.

01:43:25.000 Ship them off! 0.99

01:43:26.000 I guess we just put them on planes and hide them.

01:43:29.000 You know what I should do?

01:43:30.000 Eventually, I should run for president, and I should grow out a twirly mustache.

01:43:30.000 What?

01:43:35.000 And then I'll run as a Democrat, though, and I'll be like, And then we'll strip the pension funds and claim we're giving people health care!

01:43:35.000 Oh, no.

01:43:44.000 The system will burn down!

01:43:46.000 Democrats want to reinstate the salt cap.

01:43:48.000 Have you followed that at all?

01:43:49.000 I love this, right?

01:43:51.000 It's literally like, it would be the most regressive thing.

01:43:54.000 It would be the most enormous tax cut to hedge fund managers in New York and California and venture capitalists.

01:44:00.000 And Democrats should be opposed to it, like Bernie is.

01:44:02.000 But Democrats are like, we need a middle class salt cap cut.

01:44:06.000 And it's just like, You guys are so transparent.

01:44:08.000 I want to be on the debate stage and when they're like, how many of you are in favor of open borders or decriminalizing

01:44:08.000 Oh my gosh!

01:44:14.000 border crossings? And they all raise their hands. I'll be like,

01:44:17.000 excellent.

01:44:17.000 And then we'll use them for cheap labor under the table so that we

01:44:20.000 displace the working class and strip them of their value. 1.00

01:44:23.000 Like say their policies are a good thing, but explain why they're bad as

01:44:28.000 the villain guy. I'll wear it.

01:44:30.000 I'll wear a top hat, and I'll have like a monocle, and a cane, and I'll wear a tuxedo.

01:44:35.000 And then I'll be like, excellent, excellent!

01:44:37.000 Ah, the Koch brothers!

01:44:38.000 They must be celebrating the idea of the industry getting cheap.

01:44:40.000 They literally are.

01:44:41.000 That is exactly what they're doing.

01:44:43.000 You could do that, and then make a video on YouTube, and your video would get more views than the debate.

01:44:48.000 Maybe.

01:44:48.000 Actually, that's a great idea to like green screen yourself into the debate.

01:44:51.000 Yeah.

01:44:52.000 And when they say something like, you know, in California, when they're like, how many of you are in favor of giving

01:44:57.000 free health care to illegal immigrants? 0.94

01:44:58.000 And they all raise their hand.

01:44:59.000 Be like, and then American citizens who have paid for 20 years won't be able to get health care.

01:45:04.000 Mwahahahaha.

01:45:06.000 And then I could have like a group of like henchmen behind me wearing like weird suits with like goggles and gas masks

01:45:11.000 going, Mwahahahaha.

01:45:13.000 That's the plan, man.

01:45:15.000 Nice.

01:45:15.000 I'll do it.

01:45:15.000 Yes.

01:45:16.000 I'm here for it.

01:45:17.000 We need to hire, like, a production crew so we can do these skits and just make a skit channel or something.

01:45:21.000 I also want to hire a patent lawyer.

01:45:23.000 What?

01:45:24.000 Alright.

01:45:24.000 I just have ideas.

01:45:25.000 You need a referral?

01:45:26.000 I could probably get somebody for you.

01:45:27.000 Okay, cool.

01:45:28.000 Lawyers are cheap, right Will?

01:45:29.000 No.

01:45:30.000 They are not.

01:45:31.000 What if I paid them a percentage of the money the patents make in perpetuity?

01:45:38.000 A sea lion in orange says the Democrats are the Beth monster and the Republicans are the Jerry monster from that one episode of Rick and Morty.

01:45:44.000 It's true!

01:45:45.000 Have you seen that?

01:45:46.000 I've never seen an episode of Rick and Morty.

01:45:49.000 So it's basically Beth and Jerry, they're two people.

01:45:51.000 They go and then this machine makes their mental version of themselves.

01:45:55.000 So Jerry, how he sees his wife and how his wife sees him.

01:45:58.000 He sees his wife as the alien from Alien. 0.53

01:46:04.000 And she sees him as a slug going...

01:46:07.000 And then she takes him and uses him, and it's hilarious. 1.00

01:46:09.000 Well, the whole point is that they're codependent and they require each other to survive and he's like this spineless

01:46:14.000 sniveling little slug and she's This overpowering dominant domineering woman because she's 1.00

01:46:19.000 a mental image of how he sees her. So yeah, I could see Oh, no, no, no 0.64

01:46:24.000 Are you sure?

01:46:25.000 Why?

01:46:25.000 I don't know.

01:46:25.000 Ara ara?

01:46:26.000 the Tim Pool compound, he doesn't have enough 50 BMG to stop us all.

01:46:29.000 Are you sure?

01:46:30.000 Also, Lydia, can you please say, Ara Ara?

01:46:32.000 Ara Ara?

01:46:33.000 Why?

01:46:34.000 I don't trust that.

01:46:35.000 I don't know.

01:46:36.000 But let me just assure you, I do have enough 50 BMG.

01:46:38.000 Oh, we're good.

01:46:39.000 Also, there's very clear signs that say trespassing will be prosecuted on the way.

01:46:43.000 My mom got me a sign that says trespassers will be shot and survivors will be prosecuted.

01:46:47.000 I'm like, I'm not, I'm not putting that sign up.

01:46:50.000 Survivors will be prosecuted.

01:46:52.000 We're not putting it up.

01:46:53.000 We'll put it downstairs somewhere.

01:46:56.000 It's a joke.

01:46:57.000 It's not real.

01:46:59.000 Oh yeah.

01:47:00.000 Potato Masher says, does anyone know what freedom is?

01:47:03.000 Just some thoughts.

01:47:04.000 Freedom is the ability, obviously, to take your pants off on the stage of the libertarian debates.

01:47:08.000 Heck yeah.

01:47:09.000 Freedom is the right to sell heroin to children, if I recall those debates.

01:47:14.000 Freedom to a prisoner is the ability to walk around and see the sun any time of day.

01:47:19.000 So it's kind of relative.

01:47:21.000 Seth Elvery says, Tim, if you're angry at rep politicians, invite one onto your show.

01:47:24.000 Surely there's some who would have a conversation with you.

01:47:27.000 Wasn't Parnell on last night?

01:47:29.000 Yes.

01:47:30.000 He's been on several times, but he didn't get in yet.

01:47:35.000 He's running for Senate and I like the guy, so I hope he does win.

01:47:39.000 And I'm glad he's willing to come on the show and have these conversations.

01:47:42.000 But every time I message someone they say, yes, email this person.

01:47:49.000 And then I say, okay.

01:47:50.000 And you know what that person says when we email them?

01:47:52.000 Nothing.

01:47:56.000 There's a lot of people that I've reached out to that say, yes, politicians are the worst.

01:48:03.000 Hmm, sounds like an actor.

01:48:04.000 Sounds like you're dealing with actors.

01:48:05.000 You could probably get Ken Buck on.

01:48:06.000 I bet you could get Ken Buck on.

01:48:07.000 In Colorado?

01:48:08.000 Yeah, because I know he's chief of staff, so that solves the staff problem.

01:48:13.000 You know, I gotta be honest, if someone refers me to a staff member, I'm just not gonna bother emailing them at all.

01:48:19.000 If I can DM you, I've DM'd probably like four or five Republicans, and I'm like, yo, we can take care of, here's the plan, here's what we wanna do, are you interested?

01:48:26.000 And they say yes, I say, we're good.

01:48:29.000 Figure out your schedule, let me know.

01:48:30.000 It's no problem, right?

01:48:31.000 We're on DM now.

01:48:32.000 No, they pass me off, I say, okay, just say no next time.

01:48:35.000 I'm not gonna waste my time.

01:48:37.000 I think that's just a function of how their offices work.

01:48:39.000 There's a guardian of the schedule, in a way.

01:48:42.000 Like, you know, politicians are in less control of the- Well, I'm not gonna waste my time.

01:48:45.000 Yeah, maybe you don't have to waste your time.

01:48:47.000 I mean, it's just, this is where Yes Minister comes in, right?

01:48:49.000 Like, the whole point of these little officers and all these little underlings is they control, you know.

01:48:56.000 Rand Paul, come on the show, we're big fans. 0.98

01:48:58.000 Whenever we're like, all politicians suck, we're like, Rand's okay. 0.97

01:49:00.000 No, Rand's awesome. 0.99

01:49:01.000 Tom Cotton.

01:49:02.000 Thomas Massey, Tom Cotton, Josh Holloway.

01:49:04.000 Josh Holloway would be sick on the show.

01:49:06.000 I hear such good things about Josh Holloway.

01:49:08.000 Doesn't he, he's like a homesteader?

01:49:10.000 No, that's Thomas Massey, I think.

01:49:12.000 I get all these names mixed up.

01:49:15.000 Thomas Massey and Rand Paul are like at the top.

01:49:17.000 Thomas Massey?

01:49:18.000 I think that guy's cool.

01:49:20.000 Yeah, but there's like, what, 10 Republicans?

01:49:23.000 We gotta need a new party.

01:49:24.000 We're working on it.

01:49:24.000 I don't know.

01:49:26.000 More the more you get good.

01:49:27.000 I mean, the freshmen... Primary!

01:49:29.000 You're sorry.

01:49:29.000 These terrestrial snails, starfish, and jellyfish in the Republican Party who support the Democrats need to be voted out.

01:49:36.000 Primary them! 0.92

01:49:37.000 Primary them! 0.92

01:49:38.000 You can't even vote, you have to vote someone else. 0.80

01:49:39.000 I've never seen any of them on any Republican news show, podcast, anything.

01:49:45.000 Like, every one of those Republicans is like, a creature of the nrcc and has who ted cruz has a podcast with my oh no no no but i'm talking about the ones who voted no right other than like liz cheney i've never heard of there's like some of them go on like lib media right like cheney and kinzinger and whoever but none of the 35 they were all these just anonymous republican congress people who've never been on a republican program yes primary it's time

01:50:12.000 Kristen F says, went to a local brewery in Northwest Indiana this past weekend and overheard a couple talking about the latest Tim Pool episode.

01:50:19.000 Feels good knowing there are others in a predominantly Democratic area aware of good independent media.

01:50:24.000 I actually think the opinions that we have on the show, mostly like me and doing my show, resonate with Chicagoans because that's probably from being in Chicago.

01:50:34.000 Interesting.

01:50:35.000 In our metrics, we can see that the largest, the location with the most views is Chicago.

01:50:39.000 Oh, it's awesome.

01:50:40.000 Interesting.

01:50:41.000 I wonder if it's, I talked about this before, you grow up in a city that's been run by Democrats

01:50:44.000 for 80 years, there's no qualm with Republicans because they're not relevant to the local conversation.

01:50:49.000 You just keep getting Democrats who make everything worse and people keep voting for it.

01:50:52.000 Eventually, all you're saying is I hate Democrats.

01:50:55.000 You're not a Republican, you're a moderate liberal, but the Democrats in your city just have a stranglehold

01:51:00.000 I can talk about when the mayor came down to my local park and was like, we're gonna build y'all a skate park!

01:51:04.000 And we're like, yay, photo op!

01:51:05.000 And then he's gone, never comes back. 0.99

01:51:07.000 I hate them all.

01:51:08.000 Never built the skate park? 0.95

01:51:09.000 No, there was already a trash park there and they were gonna make like a good one, they said, as a photo op to go out and pretend like he helped the kids or something.

01:51:15.000 Oh, weird.

01:51:16.000 I grew up in Cupertino, California.

01:51:16.000 You know, that's funny.

01:51:18.000 I've been around Democrats, lived in Democrat areas my entire life, except for a six-month stint in Boise, Idaho.

01:51:25.000 And I feel like that made me... if you actually look at just my actual policy views...

01:51:32.000 They're pretty moderate, but in terms of attitudinally and what team I'm on, I'm like, I want Republicans to win.

01:51:39.000 I think it's very important that they do.

01:51:41.000 I'd prefer Democrats not to win, and I just wish there was something other than Republicans.

01:51:45.000 Man, Dave Smith, with the Libertarian Party, that's like, this is a big deal.

01:51:50.000 He's cool, dude.

01:51:51.000 He runs for president, and I don't even know if he's, who knows, I've never seen a Libertarian win the president.

01:51:56.000 Abraham Lincoln built a fourth party to win his Republican election.

01:52:00.000 He created the Republicans.

01:52:01.000 Dude, if we get hard behind Dave, he goes.

01:52:04.000 It's just about the process.

01:52:06.000 Let's read some more Super Chats. 0.91

01:52:07.000 WolfsBlackRose says, I didn't know Will was anti-Second Amendment.

01:52:11.000 His anti-crypto argument is a page out of the Gun Grabbers handbook.

01:52:15.000 That's actually, that's an interesting rejoinder.

01:52:17.000 I am pro-Second Amendment, by the way.

01:52:19.000 Sorry, just to make that clear.

01:52:21.000 Criminals use guns.

01:52:23.000 Criminals do use guns, but it's a constitutional right, and it's also important to self-defense.

01:52:27.000 I think that your ability to defend yourself against violence from knives or punching or whatever is a basic right.

01:52:34.000 What about my ability to defend myself from inflationary currency?

01:52:38.000 Defend yourself from inflation currency.

01:52:40.000 Well, not a constitutional right and there's a collective action problem there with like if you, you know, the consequence of not having a currency that is not possible to dilute is things like the 2009 crisis.

01:52:54.000 All right.

01:52:55.000 Nua Haking says, I live in Logan Square, Chicago, and on the way home last night, there were signs calling a woman and her husband out by name.

01:53:02.000 Photos defining characteristics and social media usernames directly calling them neo-Nazis.

01:53:06.000 Jeez.

01:53:07.000 Creepy!

01:53:08.000 And it would have been vandalism to rip those signs down?

01:53:12.000 I don't think so.

01:53:12.000 No, I don't think so.

01:53:14.000 Yeah, unless you had like a right to put them up for some reason.

01:53:18.000 Sunny James says, I love the Jewish people, but statist secular Jews have misrepresented them.

01:53:24.000 To the point, since I've openly criticized Zionism, my superchats are carefully monitored and impossible to get through. 0.82

01:53:29.000 To be cancelled soon, don't tell me I'm the only one.

01:53:33.000 So wait, is this like, are you saying that your anti-Zionist Jews get cancelled?

01:53:38.000 Is that the argument?

01:53:41.000 I don't know.

01:53:42.000 I don't know.

01:53:43.000 I'm confused.

01:53:44.000 Whatever.

01:53:45.000 Jurassic Josh says, Timothy Poole, the U.S.

01:53:47.000 not negotiating with terrorists is a quote from a Harrison Ford movie.

01:53:50.000 It is not an actual stance of the U.S.

01:53:52.000 government.

01:53:53.000 Grow up.

01:53:53.000 Stop lying to your viewers.

01:53:54.000 That's weird.

01:53:55.000 When I did the hostile environment training, they specifically said the U.S.

01:53:59.000 doesn't negotiate with terrorists.

01:54:00.000 Well, sometimes they like in a general sense, I'm sure in certain circumstances there are.

01:54:05.000 I think he's talking about Air Force One.

01:54:06.000 Did you guys see that movie?

01:54:08.000 Harrison Ford plays the president. 0.53

01:54:09.000 He like punches a guy in the face. 0.54

01:54:10.000 We don't negotiate with terrorists.

01:54:13.000 Did you see that Tim?

01:54:14.000 It's a great movie.

01:54:14.000 No?

01:54:17.000 Commander232 says, well, to give you a bit of positive news, myself and my comrades in Federal Protective Services walk off when we were tasked to help with the smuggling of the illegal immigrants.

01:54:26.000 No way, for real?

01:54:26.000 Is that a true story?

01:54:28.000 Good for you.

01:54:29.000 Yeah, wow.

01:54:30.000 Alright, let's see what we got here.

01:54:30.000 Good for you.

01:54:35.000 Sunny James says, so what the heck difference does it make if you have all the crypto in the world, if the government seizes your assets for the ever-growing crime list such as racism and the old conspiracy charge, no crypto can help you, the Y Islands are a risky buy.

01:54:49.000 That is not true.

01:54:51.000 Crypto can be stored in your brain.

01:54:54.000 You can remember 10 words and have access to your crypto forever.

01:54:58.000 And they can't seize it.

01:54:59.000 It's impossible.

01:55:00.000 The blockchain exists decentralized around the planet.

01:55:03.000 They can arrest you, they can demand it, and then as soon as... I mean, sure, they can lock you up and throw away the key.

01:55:08.000 They can do that regardless.

01:55:09.000 But remembering... It's 10 words, right?

01:55:11.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:55:12.000 It ranges.

01:55:12.000 Sometimes it'll be 8, sometimes I think 16.

01:55:14.000 It depends on the service.

01:55:15.000 And it'll be like dog, run, car, fly, airport, theater, pizza.

01:55:20.000 And then that's it.

01:55:22.000 You remember those 10 words and then you can log in and access your crypto from wherever you want.

01:55:27.000 They can't take it away.

01:55:28.000 They can't seize it.

01:55:29.000 Until they plug it into your brain with a neural net and start trying to read your memories and your thoughts.

01:55:34.000 Or like take bamboo and shove it up your fingernails or whatever.

01:55:37.000 Nothing is forever.

01:55:38.000 Nothing's permanent and nothing is stable.

01:55:40.000 We're always at risk.

01:55:42.000 But I think crypto is a lot less risky than fiat at the moment.

01:55:46.000 All right, Tag says, the problem with the gold standard is the development of asteroid mining.

01:55:51.000 One of the reasons gold has value is because it's rare.

01:55:54.000 Once asteroid mining gets off the ground, gold will no longer be rare.

01:55:56.000 I don't know.

01:55:57.000 I mean, that's actually literally the opposite of my point.

01:56:00.000 The problem is a fixed supply.

01:56:03.000 You know, having your own national currency be something that's not under your control can lead to recessions because of the problem of wage stickiness.

01:56:12.000 If your country becomes less productive, you have the choice of either diluting your currency, you know, or your currency floating against others, or wage cuts.

01:56:19.000 Everybody hates wage cuts, so if you have to choose that, what you're really choosing is mass unemployment.

01:56:23.000 Brandon D says Ian re your personal crypto idea read the unincorporated man. Not exactly one-to-one, but eerily similar. Oh, thanks

01:56:31.000 Tis said Tim look up look up Wyckoff distribution distribution theory

01:56:38.000 It just happened to Bitcoin.

01:56:39.000 The big institutions are now manipulating the market.

01:56:42.000 Perhaps.

01:56:43.000 I've warned about that as well.

01:56:46.000 Mount Romer says hack seems sus.

01:56:48.000 Government hates Monero.

01:56:50.000 Could be a win-win for them.

01:56:52.000 More private coins, too, like Pirate.

01:56:55.000 Govs do shady deals themselves.

01:56:57.000 Banning never makes it go away, but makes it more valuable.

01:57:01.000 Didn't a bunch of, like, feds steal Silk Road Bitcoin? 0.99

01:57:05.000 That was like... I would guess they would seize it as an asset.

01:57:07.000 No, no, no, they got arrested.

01:57:08.000 They went to jail or something.

01:57:10.000 Oh.

01:57:10.000 Yeah.

01:57:11.000 Was it, like, was it, uh, you know, because obviously the guy who made, who was responsible for the Silk Roads in jail wasn't African-American.

01:57:18.000 Yeah, something happened, um... He got convicted.

01:57:20.000 The Dread Pirate Roberts.

01:57:21.000 Yeah, right.

01:57:22.000 And so, uh... Ross Ulrich.

01:57:24.000 So, like, yeah, Ross Ulrich, that's right.

01:57:25.000 So the prosecutor, or the police officers on the case, like, stole some Bitcoin.

01:57:29.000 Yeah, like 750 million dollars worth, or billion.

01:57:33.000 That was a lot of money, and it was, like, two in March or something, I think this happened.

01:57:36.000 Jeez.

01:57:38.000 Yeah, it's not the first time cops have stolen drug money.

01:57:41.000 They seized it.

01:57:42.000 I don't know when they got caught in March, I think.

01:57:44.000 Well, if they seized it, it would be illegal.

01:57:45.000 They just stole it, right?

01:57:46.000 Seizing is something the government's allowed to do when you forfeit assets.

01:57:49.000 But like, they personally transported the coins themselves.

01:57:51.000 points themselves. Sean Kent says Tim you need to form a coalition with the likes of

01:57:55.000 the intellectual dark web and other prominent anti-woke people. Make an LLC

01:57:59.000 media organization to rival the legacy media. Get collaboration with big time

01:58:03.000 players. Get enough momentum. Rival YouTube. I am not a big fan of the

01:58:07.000 intellectual dark web. That's about it. I personally don't like clicks in general.

01:58:12.000 I like those people, though.

01:58:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:13.000 There's no, like, closed groups of people that are like, we're this now, look how we are.

01:58:17.000 Yeah, pretty expensive.

01:58:19.000 And they fell apart.

01:58:20.000 They don't even hang out anymore.

01:58:22.000 If it was a clique, Rubin and Sam Harris, they don't really go on each other's show.

01:58:28.000 Brett Weinstein is legit.

01:58:30.000 I like Brett a lot.

01:58:32.000 I like all these people as intellectuals.

01:58:35.000 Sometimes I think they are wrong, especially when it comes to matters of political strategy.

01:58:39.000 I think they often get it wrong on that question.

01:58:42.000 Brian Scanlon says, Charles Hoskinson, the creator of the cryptocurrency Cardano, said in a recent AMA that he would like to come on the show.

01:58:48.000 You guys should reach out to him.

01:58:50.000 Cardano is an amazing project.

01:58:51.000 There's nobody better to answer all of your crypto questions.

01:58:54.000 Beautiful.

01:58:55.000 We have.

01:58:56.000 Did you message him on Twitter?

01:58:57.000 I can't message him on Twitter, but I have reached out to him on a couple different occasions, telling him to get in touch with me because I do the guests for IRA.

01:59:05.000 Cool.

01:59:06.000 So the ball is in his court.

01:59:07.000 Hopefully soon.

01:59:10.000 Alright, let's see what we got here.

01:59:12.000 Someone posting some... What is this?

01:59:15.000 Some nonsense?

01:59:17.000 Oh, okay.

01:59:17.000 I don't know.

01:59:20.000 Doo-doo-doo. 1.00

01:59:20.000 Let's see. 1.00

01:59:21.000 Let's grab a good one.

01:59:23.000 Everyone's just basically saying Crypto is the best, Will is wrong.

01:59:26.000 Not surprised by that.

01:59:27.000 It's like the inverse of the last episode where I was like... Yeah, everyone's like, Tim's wrong.

01:59:32.000 I'm like, jail rioters.

01:59:34.000 Everybody's like, yay, Crypto bad.

01:59:36.000 What?

01:59:36.000 We're gonna go back and forth, yeah.

01:59:39.000 All right, let's just see.

01:59:39.000 We'll grab a couple more down at the latest ones because YouTube jumped on us and it's... All right, let's see what we got.

01:59:47.000 Joshua Vogt says hello Tim from from a Air Force military police vet thinking of running for mayor of my town in a couple years It's super leftist for the longest time.

01:59:56.000 I'm not currently work in pest control.

01:59:58.000 Love y'all.

01:59:59.000 There you go.

02:00:00.000 That's cool Dan9S says, you keep mentioning PayPal and Stripe.

02:00:04.000 Can I just pay with a card?

02:00:05.000 I don't know anything about Stripe, but after my mom died, PayPal made it impossible for me to close her account.

02:00:09.000 I'm not doing PayPal.

02:00:11.000 When you click Stripe to become a member, it literally just asks for your credit card information.

02:00:15.000 It's like super easy to do.

02:00:17.000 It's awesome.

02:00:18.000 Stripe is really fantastic.

02:00:19.000 Great service.

02:00:20.000 Super excited to have them integrated.

02:00:21.000 But again, you click sign up to be a member and it just says credit card information.

02:00:24.000 You go, boom, done.

02:00:26.000 Well, there's probably a little bit more involved in that, but it's relatively easy.

02:00:30.000 Sean Kent says, also, can I submit skit ideas for you?

02:00:33.000 I have a free one here.

02:00:35.000 SJW chess player goes to get a bank loan and puts two pennies on the counter.

02:00:38.000 Teller says, sir, two pennies is not enough.

02:00:41.000 SJW, did you just assume my currency's value?

02:00:45.000 Hey, there you go.

02:00:47.000 That's the next... Okay.

02:00:49.000 Yeah, my currency's value.

02:00:51.000 It's meta.

02:00:52.000 Gabriel Martinez says, Tim, first time commenting, you would win on a Republican ticket.

02:00:56.000 Do it.

02:00:57.000 Also, currency and money are two different things.

02:00:58.000 Gold is money.

02:00:59.000 The dollar is currency now.

02:01:01.000 Bitcoin is the new gold.

02:01:02.000 No, I don't think so.

02:01:02.000 You would.

02:01:05.000 I don't really think there's a meaningful difference between money and currency unless you have a narrower definition of currency that's like state-run or something.

02:01:13.000 No, the conservatives, I disagree on policy, on a lot of these policies.

02:01:18.000 That's why you would win.

02:01:19.000 Vote for someone you disagree with!

02:01:21.000 It's an ever encroachment to the left, just because I don't like them.

02:01:24.000 If they like you, that's why they vote.

02:01:26.000 Oh yeah, I guess.

02:01:28.000 And I'd have a really easy time with fundraising.

02:01:30.000 I wouldn't need to fundraise.

02:01:32.000 Wow, yeah.

02:01:33.000 Like, you know, Sean came on the show and he's talking about the need to fundraise, and I'm like, I don't need to.

02:01:39.000 That's the way the game works though, I guess, you know?

02:01:42.000 The people who run big companies and make a ton of money can easily just run for office and not have to worry about it.

02:01:46.000 Unfair on some level, yeah.

02:01:47.000 Gotta make a bunch of promises, but the more important thing is that the amount of media play I could get from my own work is way more than they could buy.

02:01:54.000 Dude, if we did, they'd leave vlogs from the White House.

02:01:56.000 Well, the New York Times would lie and smear.

02:01:58.000 That'd be so fun.

02:01:59.000 Weren't there some Brazilian YouTubers who got elected?

02:02:02.000 Yeah.

02:02:02.000 That's what I heard.

02:02:03.000 Because they control a lot of the media, you know?

02:02:06.000 So while these other candidates are desperately trying to buy media, I just turn the camera on and say, yo, what up?

02:02:06.000 Yeah.

02:02:12.000 Would you guys be down to paint the White House?

02:02:15.000 I don't think you can just do that.

02:02:16.000 Well, if you're the president, can I paint it?

02:02:18.000 I don't think you can just do that.

02:02:19.000 I'm not going to be the president.

02:02:21.000 Can we get, like, taxpayer support?

02:02:22.000 Tim is going to run on a platform of tradition.

02:02:25.000 My Republican platform would be insane.

02:02:26.000 My Republican platform would be insane good.

02:02:31.000 Huh?

02:02:31.000 I was yeah.

02:02:32.000 If I ran for president, it would be awesome.

02:02:34.000 Yeah, I know.

02:02:35.000 I feel like I'm gonna pardon everybody basically.

02:02:39.000 All non-violent offenders will go through where there's victimless crimes, drugs, and abuse and stuff like that.

02:02:45.000 Just gonna start rubber stamping it.

02:02:46.000 Especially federal gun crimes that are non-violent.

02:02:49.000 Boom.

02:02:51.000 Boom.

02:02:51.000 Marijuana?

02:02:52.000 Oh, you betcha.

02:02:52.000 Boom.

02:02:53.000 Boom.

02:02:53.000 Cranking them all out, pardoning everybody like crazy the first day.

02:02:57.000 I just be like, give me the list, I'm pardoning them all, send them home. 0.92

02:03:01.000 We got too many people in prison for dumb things. 0.98

02:03:03.000 Stop wasting money. 0.87

02:03:05.000 And then, the taxpayers don't gotta waste that money, so we'll lower taxes.

02:03:09.000 How much money can we save by pardoning, you know, all nonviolent offenders?

02:03:12.000 I mean, Philly's trying this experiment.

02:03:15.000 Nonviolent offenders?

02:03:17.000 Yeah, because think about it, people plead, right?

02:03:19.000 The non-violent offenders usually don't go to jail for as much.

02:03:23.000 We've talked about this before.

02:03:24.000 The review would not include anybody who pled down from violent crimes.

02:03:30.000 Okay.

02:03:31.000 That's right.

02:03:32.000 Okay.

02:03:32.000 So the file says this person was accused of doing X, Y, and Z, and then they pleaded to discharge, I'd be like, sorry.

02:03:38.000 But if it's like some guy was chilling on his stoop with a 40 and his friends, and he got arrested, I'd be like, get out of here.

02:03:45.000 Or if it was like a guy was selling like marijuana or something I beg now or if a guy was like he had a suppressor

02:03:50.000 and he didn't file the NFA I'd beg not get out of here like you're free to go you're free to go second amendment free

02:03:53.000 to go free to go.

02:03:54.000 A lot of stuff pertaining to the constitution like that that's probably the only thing I would do I'd say like I'm

02:03:59.000 gonna go through every single federal case and anything on constitutional grounds pardon.

02:04:04.000 We need less law so I'm down with that.

02:04:09.000 Like you got a story about a guy's like chilling in his house and the cops like kick the door without a warrant or

02:04:12.000 whatever.

02:04:13.000 And then, like, he fought with them and then they charged him.

02:04:15.000 I'd be like, oh, he's going free.

02:04:18.000 Oh, even though he fought, but it was self-defense.

02:04:20.000 There's a lot of creepy stories like that, you know?

02:04:23.000 So, I'd probably err on the side of freedom, which could be a little bad.

02:04:26.000 I know conservatives wouldn't like that, you know what I mean?

02:04:28.000 Yeah, no, I think the whole, like, free all the prisoners is not a traditional conservative policy proposal.

02:04:35.000 Yeah.

02:04:35.000 Hey, you want to lower taxes, right?

02:04:37.000 Yeah.

02:04:38.000 Well, then how about the guy who's, like, non-violent offender who's, like, minding his own business, smoking pot, shouldn't be in prison?

02:04:44.000 I mean, I think most conservatives would agree with that.

02:04:47.000 There you go.

02:04:48.000 We're gonna save you money.

02:04:49.000 That guy can go home and he can smoke all the pot he wants. 0.87

02:04:51.000 I don't care.

02:04:52.000 Why should you pay to lock that guy up because he was rocking a ganja in his basement? 1.00

02:04:56.000 That's stupid. 1.00

02:04:57.000 I mean, I just don't really think very many people are in jail for that, honestly. 1.00

02:05:00.000 No, but it would be like in federal crimes, it would be more than just like a guy in his basement.

02:05:04.000 It would be like, you know, trafficking or selling or something. 1.00

02:05:06.000 I think it's stupid. 1.00

02:05:06.000 But I don't care. 1.00

02:05:07.000 People should be in jail for that. 0.87

02:05:08.000 Nonviolent offenses.

02:05:10.000 It's not so simple.

02:05:11.000 I'd also run on, like, executive order instructing the ATF to stop doing all their jobs.

02:05:16.000 Like, you will now be allowed to play video games all day and just don't do anything else.

02:05:21.000 Right, yeah, just the rubber rooms.

02:05:22.000 You know where that comes from?

02:05:24.000 I'm kidding, by the way, because they still do things that are important.

02:05:28.000 In the New York Teachers Union, they literally have things called rubber rooms, which is where they put the teachers they can't fire.

02:05:33.000 It's called a rubber room because you play a rubber bridge.

02:05:37.000 The card game.

02:05:38.000 Right.

02:05:38.000 Oh.

02:05:38.000 Like, so they're expected to just sit around playing cards all day.

02:05:41.000 No, I'd be like, focus on firearms.

02:05:43.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

02:05:43.000 Focus on explosives.

02:05:45.000 Sorry.

02:05:46.000 It's alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives.

02:05:48.000 I'd be like, ignore the firearm stuff and just focus on the explosives.

02:05:50.000 Oh, they'd love to do that.

02:05:51.000 That's like the FBI's favorite thing to do.

02:05:52.000 They find some radical and then they're like, oh, we'll just insert an undercover agent and offer to sell them explosives.

02:05:57.000 No, I got a better idea.

02:05:59.000 I'd make them, like, actually enforce the law against far left extremists.

02:06:04.000 Yeah.

02:06:06.000 Jail.

02:06:07.000 Jail, hey! 1.00

02:06:08.000 Right to jail.

02:06:09.000 Right to jail.

02:06:10.000 Believe it or not, right to jail.

02:06:11.000 The reason I want to paint the White House, and I'm joking, is because the Roman, where we got this architecture from the white marble pillars and stuff, all the Roman architecture is white marble pillar, because the paint faded away.

02:06:22.000 They painted that stuff.

02:06:24.000 The statues, these white marble statues were painted.

02:06:26.000 They looked normal.

02:06:28.000 First last says we should make Ian's white party. 0.89

02:06:31.000 I disagree.

02:06:32.000 Do you know the story?

02:06:34.000 I do not know the story.

02:06:35.000 So Ian said that there should be a new white party in the states or whatever.

02:06:41.000 And everyone, and like, I can't remember, it was like me, Luke, and someone else.

02:06:43.000 Oh, for white people? 0.73

02:06:44.000 No, no, no!

02:06:45.000 There's red, there's blue, there's white.

02:06:47.000 Red, white, and blue.

02:06:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:06:48.000 And there's red states, there's blue states.

02:06:50.000 What if there are white states? 0.74

02:06:51.000 Red, white, and blue. 0.68

02:06:52.000 And they were like, racist!

02:06:53.000 Yeah, he said we need white states. 0.51

02:06:54.000 And we were like, no!

02:06:55.000 No, no, no!

02:06:56.000 You could interpret that in the monarchist sense, because white was traditionally the color of the monarchies in the French Revolution.

02:07:03.000 So you could go that old school reactionary angle if you want.

02:07:09.000 Because the alternative is not good.

02:07:11.000 No, it's not.

02:07:12.000 I don't think we need political parties.

02:07:14.000 My friends, we've got a crazy, crazy conspiracy that's going to be a whole lot of fun.

02:07:19.000 A lot of laughs.

02:07:21.000 Time travel.

02:07:23.000 The secrets of the alternate timelines.

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02:08:04.000 You want to shout anything out, Will?

02:08:06.000 Yeah, I mean, Human Events, guys, again, if you weren't here at the beginning, we hired Jack DeSobic.

02:08:11.000 We're really stoked on it.

02:08:12.000 I mean, he's going to be doing, like, podcasts and stuff, and we're going to, so we're going to be, I'm really excited about the future of Human Events.

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02:08:23.000 That's big.

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