Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - WWE's John Cena Apologizes To China In Creepy Video, Gets SLAMMED w-Scott Horton

00:00:00.000 So John Cena really stepped in it.

00:00:25.000 Apparently he was doing an interview and he referred to Taiwan as a country, which he probably knows almost nothing about, and this triggered a major backlash in China.

00:00:34.000 You see, WWE, NBA, a bunch of American companies have been expanding into China, making tons of money.

00:00:40.000 And so they're very concerned about losing that money.

00:00:43.000 We saw this with the NBA, with LeBron, with Steve Kerr, with Mark Cuban.

00:00:47.000 Now it's WWE.

00:00:48.000 So John Cena puts out this very weird video where he's like trying to speak Mandarin apologizing, saying he just didn't know, you know, that Taiwan is not a country.

00:00:57.000 The interesting thing about this is that, well, to Americans, Taiwan is.

00:01:02.000 And there's serious questions about the lengths Americans are willing to go to do something about China and what it could ultimately lead to, and there's Fear of war and something called Thucydides Trap, which we reference a lot actually, which means, if you're not familiar, as a rising power comes to displace the reigning economic power, war breaks out.

00:01:21.000 And that's something we really don't want.

00:01:23.000 We've got a couple other stories, you know, Rand Paul is calling on Republicans to leave Twitter.

00:01:27.000 Because these lefty personalities, these Democrats, have been mocking and encouraging, essentially, these attacks by praising the guy who attacked him.

00:01:36.000 You know, caused very serious injuries to Rand Paul.

00:01:39.000 And so we're going to get into this.

00:01:40.000 Also, we've got talk about, you know, Israel, obviously.

00:01:42.000 And we're being joined by Scott Horton of Antiwar.com.

00:01:47.000 Very happy to be here.

00:01:47.000 Thank you for having me.

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00:01:51.000 Sure.

00:01:52.000 I'm the editorial director of antiwar.com.

00:01:54.000 I'm the director of the Libertarian Institute, which is me and Sheldon Richman and Pete Quinonez and Kyle Anzalone and a bunch of great writers and podcasters over there.

00:02:03.000 And I host the Scott Horton Show.

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00:02:13.000 And I host anti-war radio on Sunday mornings on KPFK in Los Angeles, 90.7 FM.

00:02:18.000 And I wrote two books, Fool's Errand, Time to End the War in Afghanistan, and then the brand new one out this year is Enough Already, Time to End the War on Terrorism.

00:02:27.000 Right on, man.

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00:02:30.000 Yes, Ian Crossland up in here at iancrossland.net and at iancrossland on social media.

00:02:36.000 Great to see you, Scott.

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00:06:03.000 Let's jump into this first story.

00:06:05.000 And it's silly. 1.00

00:06:06.000 And it's stupid. 1.00

00:06:07.000 It's also kind of creepy. 0.99

00:06:08.000 From the South China Morning Post, WWE superstar John Cena is very sorry to Chinese fans for referring to Taiwan as a country in Fast and Furious 9 promotional interview.

00:06:21.000 There's a ninth Fast and the Furious movie you guys did.

00:06:24.000 Why?

00:06:25.000 I've long said the FFCU, the best cinematic universe.

00:06:29.000 Anyway.

00:06:30.000 John Cena said on Taiwanese TV that it would be the first country to watch the film.

00:06:37.000 The American quickly backtracked on Weibo, saying he made one mistake after doing a lot of interviews.

00:06:43.000 It's kind of creepy.

00:06:44.000 He said, Hi China, I'm John Cena.

00:06:46.000 I'm in the middle of a Fast and Furious 9 promotions.

00:06:49.000 I'm doing a lot of interviews.

00:06:50.000 I made a mistake in one of my interviews.

00:06:52.000 Everyone was asking me if I could use Chinese.

00:06:54.000 Staff gave me a lot of information, so there was a lot of interviews and information," said Sina who started learning Mandarin to help his wrestling promotion integration in China.

00:07:03.000 He has since gone viral many times for his enthusiastic Mandarin-speaking abilities.

00:07:07.000 I respect him for trying, absolutely.

00:07:09.000 I made one mistake.

00:07:10.000 I have to say something very, very important now.

00:07:12.000 I love and respect China and Chinese people.

00:07:15.000 I'm very, very sorry about my mistake.

00:07:17.000 I apologize.

00:07:18.000 I apologize.

00:07:19.000 I'm very sorry.

00:07:20.000 You must understand that I really love, really respect China and the Chinese people.

00:07:24.000 My apologies.

00:07:25.000 See you.

00:07:26.000 All I heard was, please keep giving me money.

00:07:29.000 Please keep giving me money.

00:07:30.000 I don't want to lose money.

00:07:32.000 There are more than 5,000 comments on Sina's Weibo apology.

00:07:34.000 Quote, please say in Chinese that Taiwan is part of China, otherwise we won't accept it, wrote one Weibo user.

00:07:42.000 Weibo user, the message has over 3,200 likes.

00:07:45.000 Then you should say Taiwan is China's, wrote another user.

00:07:49.000 What you have said in the video is nonsense.

00:07:51.000 You can't take benefits from China, but in the meantime, do things to harm China's interests.

00:07:57.000 Others supported Sina with one person writing, I like you.

00:08:00.000 I think you truly love China.

00:08:01.000 Don't talk carelessly again about China's territory and sovereignty. 0.80

00:08:06.000 So of course, it's a silly story in a lot of ways.

00:08:10.000 I'm not sure how much it really matters, but it's a grain of sand in a bigger heap of many, you know, companies, sports.

00:08:17.000 We had the NBA, you couldn't put Free Hong Kong on a jersey.

00:08:21.000 It would say error.

00:08:21.000 They wouldn't allow it.

00:08:22.000 You'd make a custom jersey and you have to put Free Hong Kong. 0.75

00:08:24.000 No, can't do it.

00:08:25.000 We've seen in many eSports, people have said Free Hong Kong, out.

00:08:30.000 And so it's curious.

00:08:32.000 You know, we had Cassandra Fairbanks on, and she made really good points about not wanting to go to war with China under any circumstances, even the things we're seeing that are bad.

00:08:40.000 And there's some deep philosophical questions here.

00:08:43.000 The big thing I take issue with, with things like John Cena being deferential to China, is that there's clearly American interests.

00:08:50.000 Is he more interested in making money by expanding his business into China, which means supporting Chinese interests against American interests?

00:08:58.000 I don't think there's a way to play both sides on this one, right?

00:09:03.000 In America, we, as a country, we respect Taiwan.

00:09:07.000 As a country, we do.

00:09:08.000 So, you know, people are allowed to have their own opinions.

00:09:11.000 John Cena wants to be I guess he wants to be in line with China because he's got money to be made there. 0.94

00:09:17.000 And so what ends up happening is, China doesn't tolerate free speech in the same way the U.S.

00:09:22.000 does.

00:09:23.000 John Cena can say this, what's the worst that's gonna happen?

00:09:24.000 We're gonna insult him.

00:09:25.000 Maybe if he says something truly egregious, we'll boycott him.

00:09:28.000 In China, he has to come out and apologize.

00:09:30.000 In the U.S., he wouldn't do it.

00:09:31.000 So that means so long as they're more authoritarian in their speech, or I should say more collectivist, then they're going to keep winning a lot of these corporate battles, which means a lot more resources will flow towards China away from the U.S., and that will incentivize the political class to continue extracting resources through sending out our manufacturing and things like that.

00:09:51.000 But in terms of the bigger, the broader point, which is Thucydides' trap, you're probably familiar with this.

00:09:56.000 Yeah, Scott.

00:09:58.000 Which is, are we heading towards war with China because of their economic expansion?

00:10:04.000 I'm curious, just, is, you know, your thoughts, I guess.

00:10:07.000 Is it a good thing or a bad thing?

00:10:09.000 My personal opinion?

00:10:10.000 I think it's really bad because, I think a lot of what we're seeing with these corporations going to China is bad because I'm concerned about individualism, liberty, and what happens to the world if China becomes a superpower that supplants the U.S.

00:10:21.000 and starts doing what the U.S.

00:10:22.000 is doing but with Chinese communist authoritarianism instead of Classical liberalism, I understand, from a historical perspective, not from the current American perspective, but at the very least we have a constitution, right?

00:10:34.000 Sure.

00:10:35.000 So I'm curious, what do you think?

00:10:36.000 Well, listen, I mean, I think you're on to something that it's a real worry when American, you know, media characters and companies are so heavily invested in China are so heavily dependent on on Chinese money that then, you know, it undermines American values like free speech and things like you're talking about there.

00:10:56.000 We saw this with And, you know, we're at the humorous stage of this, right?

00:11:01.000 It could get a lot worse.

00:11:03.000 You know, John Cena and some basketball players and stuff.

00:11:05.000 Right.

00:11:05.000 The one that I thought was really funny was when they remade Red Dawn.

00:11:09.000 Yeah.

00:11:10.000 I'm an 80s kid, so I love the original Red Dawn.

00:11:13.000 In fact, I just watched it recently, and it's just hilarious and wonderful.

00:11:17.000 But I watched the remake of it, and it's just an absolute catastrophe.

00:11:21.000 And the movie It was, I guess it came out like pretty near after the 08 crash.

00:11:26.000 And so the idea was that the American government, clearly after George W. Bush, was so irresponsible, right, and had run America to the ground so badly that then the Chinese were going to take the advantage and conquer North America, which is about as silly as the Russians doing it back in the 80s, by the way. 0.70

00:11:42.000 But it was North Korea, wasn't it?

00:11:43.000 Yeah, well, they switched it, right?

00:11:45.000 So this is what happened.

00:11:45.000 When they filmed the movie, they had... I remember there was a lady named Karen DaCosta that wrote for LewRockwell.com that was talking about how they were filming the movie in Chicago, and they had big red Chinese flags hanging down and all these things.

00:11:57.000 She's like, oh, they're remaking Red Dawn, and it's China this time. 0.97

00:12:01.000 But then by the time the movie came out, it wasn't China anymore.

00:12:03.000 Now it's North Korea.

00:12:05.000 And so if you watch it, then like the beginning of the movie is like a 10 minute or like a little five minute news montage to try to explain the story of how North Korea ended up conquering all of Asia and then came across the Pacific Ocean for us next. 0.93

00:12:18.000 And it's just the most ridiculous thing. 0.59

00:12:20.000 And the movie was just terrible anyway. 0.94

00:12:21.000 It had no redeeming quality anyway.

00:12:22.000 But it was just the fact that they had to change it from something that was mildly plausible, right?

00:12:29.000 Like China is They gotta sell the movie in China.

00:12:31.000 Somewhat of it.

00:12:32.000 Yeah, they have to sell the movie in China.

00:12:33.000 That's it.

00:12:33.000 So they had to change it.

00:12:35.000 And so I think that could be a problem.

00:12:36.000 But I think, look, overall, the more investment that we have in China and the more investment that they have here, the better off we all are and the safer we are from violent conflict.

00:12:46.000 That's the famous quote from Frederick Bastiat.

00:12:48.000 Where goods do not cross borders, soldiers will.

00:12:52.000 And so we're better off.

00:12:53.000 If you remember when China shot down the spy plane in 2001, and Cole and Powell made peace real quick, said sorry.

00:13:00.000 And then I forgot if they got the plane back or not.

00:13:04.000 But they resolved it really quickly.

00:13:06.000 And that was because of Wall Street and the amount of investments that they have in China dictated that we keep things cool.

00:13:12.000 But now there's another major competing interest in corporate America besides, you know, Walmart and all those guys. 0.99

00:13:19.000 And that is the shit builders. 0.97

00:13:22.000 And the long-range bomber manufacturers, they have a major interest in pursuing Cold War with China and ratcheting these things up. 0.99

00:13:31.000 So what we have in a way is a war between big business factions in America, those who want to import and sell cheap crap, or whatever it is, versus those who want to sell weapons to the captive market that is the Pentagon.

00:13:44.000 And those are huge big-ticket items.

00:13:46.000 When you're talking about the next generation long-range bomber, This is a trillion dollars.

00:13:51.000 No, I think I think I think it is true.

00:13:54.000 Right. Trade lines make it harder for there to be war.

00:13:56.000 The problem is everybody thought that with with opening up trade to China, they

00:14:02.000 would start to adopt more of of our values.

00:14:05.000 And it seems like that's not happening.

00:14:06.000 They're actually the Chinese Communist Party is still very much ideological,

00:14:10.000 ideologically driven and in control of most of these companies.

00:14:13.000 And it seems like it's actually just resulting in the extraction of American manufacturing.

00:14:18.000 Wealthy elites have found a path towards extracting the labor from the US, making money by shipping things overseas.

00:14:25.000 And there is very much that idea.

00:14:27.000 I think, you know, we saw this with a lot of the establishment Democrats 10 years ago, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, this idea like, OK, let's give them a bunch of stuff with this trade deal.

00:14:36.000 It'll make it harder for there to be war.

00:14:38.000 But the TPP was nightmarish.

00:14:40.000 Trump was like, I got to shut this down.

00:14:42.000 Ian often brings it up that the corporations in foreign countries could then sue Americans.

00:14:47.000 The investor state dispute settlement clause in the TPP said that if we wanted to not buy Malaysian oil for some reason they could sue us for discrimination and then the taxpayer would have to fund this lawsuit.

00:14:58.000 What ends up happening is while it may be true or that in many circumstances you'll get some crossover where people might actually come together that means we have to start adopting Chinese ideological I should say the Communist Party's ideological values Well, it doesn't mean that, right?

00:15:15.000 I mean, for example, these basketball stars or whoever could go a lot more broke crossing the American people and selling out our values of free speech than pleasing the Chinese, right? 1.00

00:15:27.000 I mean, is John Cena going to sacrifice his American audience for a Chinese one? 0.91

00:15:32.000 Or he wants to have it both ways.

00:15:33.000 But this is the issue that I was mentioning, that the ramifications from the American audience who aren't paying attention to politics is that they're going to shrug and say, I don't care.

00:15:44.000 Whereas the Chinese audience is very much heavily invested and very, very, you know, pro-China.

00:15:51.000 So John Cena could come out and say, you know, look, it's where's the most damage?

00:15:57.000 If he says Taiwan is a country, then he loses tons of money in China.

00:16:01.000 If he says Taiwan is not a country, then nothing's gonna happen to him in the United States.

00:16:05.000 So he defers to China.

00:16:07.000 You do that over and over again, eventually you have this heap where you look at the companies that want to be in China.

00:16:07.000 That's a grain of sand.

00:16:13.000 Google, for instance.

00:16:15.000 In order for a company to operate in China, they have to have a Chinese Communist Party member in that company, in that office, in the country.

00:16:21.000 So now, Google starts... You start seeing protests in the U.S.

00:16:25.000 when Google was developing a Chinese-censored search engine.

00:16:28.000 People protested, Google claims to shut it down.

00:16:30.000 I guess, I'm not sure, we have to have the experts back on, but there's rumors that Google

00:16:34.000 just decided to just give in and start doing what they wanted.

00:16:38.000 The American people, too many of them, don't care and don't pay attention.

00:16:42.000 And so because of that, these companies are like, what's our risk?

00:16:45.000 You can piss off Americans, but Americans don't pay attention, so they probably won't 1.00

00:16:48.000 do anything anyway.

00:16:50.000 But these other countries that are much more invested in their country will get mad, so let's just make sure we're keeping them happy.

00:16:56.000 And then over a long enough period of time, it seems like we're becoming too deferential to China because our business interests are.

00:17:02.000 But then again, look at all the backlash against the NBA stars who, you know, said everybody be quiet about Hong Kong or whatever a couple years ago.

00:17:10.000 And I don't know exactly the backlash against Cena, but there's a substantial one about this, right?

00:17:16.000 He's be clowning himself.

00:17:19.000 Selling out, you know, what he obviously thought, as you just said, all I hear is money, money, money.

00:17:26.000 Which, by the way, you know, the situation with Taiwan is very complicated.

00:17:26.000 Right.

00:17:31.000 After the Civil War, the Nationalists escaped to Taiwan, and then the Americans sailed the Seventh Fleet in there, I guess, and prevented Mao's forces from following them and conquering them.

00:17:43.000 And then, from 1949 through, like, 1974, America only recognized Taiwan as the official legitimate government of China, even though They really only ruled this tiny island, and all of mainland China had been under the rule of the Maoists for, by that time, like 30-something years.

00:18:02.000 And so, Nixon and Kissinger, in a move that was really made to, one, screw the Soviet Union, and two, kind of ameliorate from the fact that he was pulling us out of Vietnam by saying, well, don't worry about the domino effect, because we made friends with the Maoists.

00:18:19.000 So now that we're friends with China, it doesn't matter so much that we're losing in Vietnam.

00:18:23.000 And so they recognized China as, you know, the communist government in Beijing, as the official government of China, which was only reasonable.

00:18:32.000 But then they adopted this policy of strategic ambiguity when it comes to the fate of Taiwan.

00:18:38.000 And so America has no treaty with Taiwan and we're not sworn to protect them.

00:18:42.000 But since Nixon, and various presidents say this in different ways, Trump almost accidentally changed the doctrine in the way that he stated it, but then his State Department walked it back.

00:18:53.000 But essentially, the position is that there is one China, and the government in Beijing is the official government of all of China, including Taiwan, but that America will always oppose the reunification by force.

00:19:09.000 But then, in what way will we oppose it?

00:19:11.000 Will we sell F-16s to Taiwan?

00:19:14.000 If so, how many?

00:19:16.000 And then if that doesn't work, then what?

00:19:18.000 And this is the real crisis now.

00:19:20.000 Let's say that the Chinese decide that we're taking back Taiwan next year. 0.95

00:19:25.000 What's America gonna do about it?

00:19:27.000 Joe Biden?

00:19:28.000 Well, what's any American president, what's your favorite American president going to do about it?

00:19:32.000 He's going to get into a nuclear war?

00:19:34.000 He's going to lose Tokyo and Honolulu and Los Angeles in exchange for Taipei?

00:19:39.000 And what do we get out of that?

00:19:41.000 And what do we really care if the Chinese conquer Taiwan? 0.92

00:19:41.000 Nothing. 0.92

00:19:45.000 What difference does that make to you or me at all?

00:19:47.000 Other than we're against war, we don't want to see anybody violently killed.

00:19:51.000 But in terms of the American people's national interest?

00:19:55.000 There's not one town, much less major city, we should be willing to trade for Taipei.

00:20:00.000 And by the way, if we got into a nuclear war with China over Taiwan...

00:20:04.000 They'd get Taiwan at the end of the day anyway. 0.94

00:20:06.000 We'd end up losing LA and San Francisco and getting nothing out of it in exchange.

00:20:11.000 Already, like, in my mind, I can see, like, the path of, like, the conflict and the arguments over for and against that I hear so often from, I wouldn't necessarily say the pro-war people, but the, like, I don't think, well, there's probably people who say they're pro-war for sure, but most people try to pass it off like it's war essentialism, like, I wish we didn't have to have it, but we do.

00:20:34.000 Well, see, this is what you're talking about with the, I always forget how to pronounce it, the Greek trap there.

00:20:39.000 Thucydides trap.

00:20:40.000 Thucydides trap.

00:20:41.000 Thucydides.

00:20:42.000 Thucydides, I can never say it right.

00:20:43.000 He was a guy.

00:20:44.000 So, but he was a guy.

00:20:45.000 He was a guy.

00:20:46.000 The thing of it is that if America would just renounce our world empire, which we're not supposed to have in the first place, then it wouldn't matter that China is the rising power. 0.76

00:20:55.000 The reason this is a trap is because America has declared that the entire Pacific Ocean is an American lake, and we won't settle for only 99%.

00:21:04.000 All of it belongs to us, or we'll go to war over the idea.

00:21:08.000 But that's not legitimate.

00:21:09.000 So if China becomes, again, the dominant power in East Asia, As it's always been for thousands of years, then we have to go to war against that? 0.98

00:21:21.000 Or we have to recognize that this is the middle part of North America?

00:21:25.000 And that sounds to me like Japan and Korea and Vietnam's problem, not mine.

00:21:31.000 Yeah.

00:21:32.000 I mean, if you look back at the... I would assume a lot of the intent of the Founding Fathers was not to do any of this, but at a certain point... They warned us explicitly against foreign engagement like this, entangling alliances, whether, you know, with European powers or anyone else you could imagine, and foreign intervention altogether.

00:21:52.000 World War I, I think, it changed everything.

00:21:54.000 All of a sudden, yeah, all of a sudden now it was, every war was our responsibility, became the world police.

00:21:54.000 That's right.

00:21:59.000 So, but let's get a little philosophical, I suppose.

00:22:03.000 So we've had different experts, you know, on talking about China.

00:22:06.000 Sure.

00:22:07.000 If Biden can't defend Taiwan, then we could already see China's expansion, the claims of the South China Sea, the attacking of the Vietnamese fishing vessels.

00:22:15.000 They'll just expand and exert influence and take over. 0.68

00:22:18.000 And so the fear is, What happens if the U.S.

00:22:21.000 does nothing?

00:22:22.000 Do we eventually have a China that does what the U.S. 0.97

00:22:25.000 does?

00:22:25.000 I don't think so.

00:22:27.000 I don't think so.

00:22:28.000 They would be insane to look at what America's done for the last 20, 30 years and say, let's replicate that. 0.95

00:22:36.000 We'll build 800 bases all around the world and then we'll kill 2 million Iraqis and Syrians and Yemenis and then we'll blow our own brains out and our civilization will collapse. 1.00

00:22:47.000 Why would they do that? 1.00

00:22:48.000 Could they possibly be as dumb as the Bushes and the Clintons? 1.00

00:22:51.000 They're building their bases on nuclear submarines so they're mobile and underwater. 1.00

00:22:53.000 They are expanding the atolls.

00:22:55.000 But I will say this.

00:22:56.000 I do think there is a certain efficiency in the Chinese Communist Party's authoritarianism I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying that you rule with an iron fist.

00:23:05.000 They dictate and they have a plan for what they're going to do, whereas in the U.S., we have regime change every four years, almost.

00:23:11.000 Like, one guy wants to go blow up this country.

00:23:13.000 George W. is mad about, you know, Saddam and his dad's fight, so he wants to bring it back.

00:23:17.000 Then Obama's like, I guess there's money to be made, so Joe Biden gets his brother some contract deals in Iraq.

00:23:22.000 When you look at what's happening in the U.S., it's the extraction of value for personal gain, and it leads us I look at what the authoritarian, you know, the Chinese Communist Party, what they do is it's rigid, it's constructed, it's controlled, there's a plan there.

00:23:36.000 They're very rigid.

00:23:37.000 And I look at the U.S.

00:23:38.000 and it's chaotic exploitation by the elites.

00:23:42.000 They don't care about you, they don't care about us.

00:23:43.000 But you really think the Chinese plan is world empire rather than just shoring up their own area?

00:23:49.000 This is a desperately poor country with millions of hungry people.

00:23:53.000 But look at what they've been doing in Africa, South America.

00:23:56.000 Was it the Belt and Road Initiative?

00:23:57.000 That's what it's called?

00:23:58.000 That's all men with briefcases, right? 0.99

00:23:59.000 That's not militarism.

00:24:01.000 They have a tiny little military base in Djibouti, right?

00:24:05.000 Otherwise, they traipse across Africa. 0.95

00:24:06.000 We got special operations forces in more than half the countries in Africa.

00:24:11.000 They've got guys with briefcases doing capital investments.

00:24:15.000 Which is interesting because it's a Chinese Communist Party using capitalism, using capitalist enterprise to gain control.

00:24:23.000 They're buying up tons of our land.

00:24:24.000 So my fear is I would not want to live the way people in Hong Kong are currently, you know, with all the changes and the people being arrested and in mainland China.

00:24:34.000 I like being able to tell, you know, I don't care who the president is, you know, to F off or whatever.

00:24:38.000 But there's been direct economic competition between China and the U.S.

00:24:43.000 I don't necessarily think warfare needs to always be hot with guns.

00:24:47.000 And so what happens when, yes, through economic exploitation, we end up deferential to the Chinese Communist Party? 0.85

00:24:56.000 I'm not in any way advocating for what the U.S.' 's stupid plans with sending guys with guns all over the place because you can clearly see that China, using investment, is doing way better in many ways. 0.52

00:25:05.000 We are wasting time and money because we have corporations, we have big military-industrial companies that just want to expand and make more. 0.88

00:25:13.000 Even when Congress says, or even when the Army's like, we don't need any more tanks, Congress is like, eh, rubber stamp it, and we just make them.

00:25:18.000 It's good for the economy.

00:25:20.000 China's more strategic, so they've got a longer plan than us, and I do think I'm not going to be happy.

00:25:26.000 I think most people wouldn't be happy if they had to live the way people in mainland China do. 1.00

00:25:30.000 Yeah.

00:25:31.000 Well, I mean, it's kind of a leap, though, from John Cena to all of us having to apologize to the Chinese all day for this, that, or the other thing. 0.72

00:25:41.000 I mean, frankly, their military doctrine, our government's acronym for it, or, you know, the way they call it, I don't know exactly the Chinese term for it, is anti-access area denial.

00:25:41.000 Of course.

00:25:53.000 In other words, it's purely defensive.

00:25:56.000 Their entire military strategy is about keeping the United States out, keeping us away.

00:26:01.000 But they're expanding.

00:26:03.000 Yeah, but it's not a blue water navy.

00:26:04.000 I mean, you talk about nuclear submarines.

00:26:07.000 We have 22 aircraft carriers, 11 on station around the planet at all times.

00:26:13.000 The U.S.

00:26:14.000 Navy rules all the oceans and the seven seas.

00:26:17.000 The question here is, Do we rule all of the South China Sea?

00:26:23.000 Or does China have influence in the South China Sea?

00:26:27.000 And think how absurd this would be if we were talking about China's influence in the Gulf of Mexico, right?

00:26:33.000 And the Atlantic Ocean is now a Chinese lake. 0.97

00:26:36.000 It would be absolutely absurd in the same way that our claim to the Pacific Ocean and all of those territories is absurd.

00:26:45.000 And so yes, we are in a trap.

00:26:47.000 If we are pledged to defend the Koreas, and Japan, and Laos, and Cambodia, and Vietnam, and Australia, and every other, and what, Myanmar, and every other country in Asia from China, then yes, we are definitely in a Greek guy trap, and we're going to have a bloody war. 0.92

00:27:06.000 Thucydides, but but the reality is that that's not in the interest of the American people whatsoever so if the Chinese like you're talking about the difference between The people that run the American government have only these very narrow interests and the Chinese government seems to have kind of broader plans I don't think that makes them necessarily any more like a threat You know, the defensive pact of World War One is basically what started it. 0.91

00:27:27.000 Someone had a pact with, I don't know, was it the Austrian-Hungary, Hungarian Empire or something?

00:27:31.000 Yeah, the Germans and the Ottomans and the Austro-Hungarians.

00:27:34.000 So someone got invaded, then there was a defensive response.

00:27:37.000 So like if Taiwan was invaded and the American defensive response would kick off a bunch of nations joining and defending each other and then a world war.

00:27:45.000 But when you look at World War Two, Hitler invaded Poland.

00:27:48.000 And if we had not done anything, They set up basically they used the conquered area of Poland to build more military.

00:27:55.000 They were using their industry.

00:27:56.000 So it was they were planning to invade Russia.

00:28:00.000 So at what point if you see a foreign invasion, do you do you intervene?

00:28:06.000 Well, that's the deep philosophical debate when they attack you.

00:28:11.000 But what if they attack everyone around you and start building more weapons with that industry?

00:28:15.000 Well, look, France is not around me.

00:28:17.000 And this was the lie of the 1930s and early 40s was that, look, France is our eastern frontier.

00:28:25.000 Well, no, it's not.

00:28:27.000 It's like 5,000, 6,000 miles away.

00:28:28.000 France is not part of America at all.

00:28:31.000 And it's not our frontier at all.

00:28:32.000 These are all just figures of speech, right?

00:28:34.000 And in fact, you know, if the British hadn't given a war guarantee to Poland, then Hitler would have never turned West against France and Denmark and Belgium and England and the Western democracies in the first place. 0.55

00:28:48.000 As you say, he was, they split Poland.

00:28:50.000 He split Poland with the Soviet Union.

00:28:54.000 and made a peace with them, because he knew that he was going to have to fight them sooner or later, but the British and the French were insisting on fighting him.

00:29:03.000 So he decided to make a peace with Stalin, and fight and destroy all the Western democracies first, and then move into the Soviet Union. 0.78

00:29:13.000 So if the British had just stayed out of it, once he went into Poland, the war between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union was inevitable, and he would have never It felt like he had to attack the Western democracies at all.

00:29:24.000 The whole thing would have been in the East, which would have been a catastrophe for the people in the lands between Germany and the Soviet Union, but not for the Western democracies. 0.92

00:29:35.000 This all was self-inflicted.

00:29:36.000 In fact, if you read Pat Buchanan's book, Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War, they talk about when Neville Chamberlain... Everybody always makes fun of Neville Chamberlain for making peace over Czechoslovakia, right?

00:29:48.000 But he's the one who he gave the war guarantee to Poland.

00:29:52.000 And as soon as he did, Lord Gray, the foreign minister, said, Oh, my God, what are you doing?

00:29:56.000 They should lock this man up in a mental hospital. 0.99

00:29:58.000 Are you crazy? 1.00

00:30:00.000 Why would you give a war guarantee to Poland? 0.94

00:30:01.000 We have no ability to defend Poland. 0.81

00:30:04.000 All you're doing is guaranteeing that we're going to get into a war with Germany that we're not prepared to fight yet. 0.88

00:30:09.000 And meanwhile, what does any of this have to do with FDR and the American people back home?

00:30:13.000 Other than his New Deal failed for three administrations in a row, and so now he had to get us into a war.

00:30:20.000 So why did Hitler attack the UK?

00:30:25.000 Because they declared war on him first.

00:30:27.000 Is that what happened?

00:30:27.000 That's what happened.

00:30:28.000 And listen, when that war was over, Winston Churchill said, you know, I guess we stuck the wrong pig. 0.59

00:30:36.000 Well, didn't Germany- Yeah, really, huh?

00:30:37.000 Germany had a military force in their west preparing to invade France regardless, I think.

00:30:43.000 They were ready to go when France declared war.

00:30:46.000 They went, like two weeks later, they went into Paris with tanks.

00:30:50.000 Well, I don't want to do it- Do World War II for the first time?

00:30:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:55.000 Because I want to keep it to the- But when you have a belligerent that is going to invade, at what point do you say, I need to declare counter-war?

00:31:00.000 The philosophical question that I wanted to get to before we started going off on the history stuff is, I guess the philosophical argument for those that are war essentialists is that, well, if we don't do it, they will, and I'd rather be on top of the mountain than, you know, the bottom of it, and that's like a very nightmarish prospect, but I think, I don't know, do you cross your fingers and hope no one's going to do it? 0.66

00:31:23.000 I think they would, though.

00:31:24.000 No, I don't think they would.

00:31:25.000 You think only America is the country that wants to have these bases?

00:31:29.000 Well, look, the American people are the only ones who can afford it, and we can't even afford it.

00:31:34.000 And the Chinese can't afford it. 1.00

00:31:34.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:31:35.000 Because of the petrodollar.

00:31:36.000 It's all alone.

00:31:37.000 Look, and the reality is, we had in the Cold War, with the Soviet Union, this bipolar world, where it was really America ruled two-thirds of the planet, and the Communists ruled one-third of it, right? 0.70

00:31:48.000 And then when all that fell apart, this is what Charles Krauthammer, the neocon, called our unipolar moment.

00:31:54.000 This is when we get to spend the next about 20 years making the world exactly how we want it.

00:32:00.000 Before, not that America will get weaker, but before the rest of the world starts getting rich and their power starts becoming more equal to ours.

00:32:08.000 And then so this has been seen all along as an eventuality that what we'll have is a multipolar world, where it matters what Beijing thinks, and it matters what New Delhi thinks, it matters what London thinks, it matters what Sao Paulo thinks.

00:32:22.000 So what you're saying is that John Cena opposing China will kick off World War III.

00:32:29.000 I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

00:32:33.000 We'll definitely keep the conversation going on the philosophy of war as we move on, but let's talk about the media because we have this other story from the Hill.

00:32:40.000 The memo.

00:32:41.000 Media face hard questions on Trump and the Wuhan lab.

00:32:45.000 I don't really need, I'll use the article as a reference, but I don't think I need to actually pull anything up because we all know what happened.

00:32:51.000 Donald Trump very early on said the Wuhan lab, lab leak, we should investigate into it.

00:32:56.000 The media went nuts, said it wasn't true.

00:32:57.000 Fauci said it was likely not true.

00:32:59.000 He said, no, I don't think so.

00:33:00.000 Everybody said Trump was a conspiracy theorist.

00:33:02.000 Vox.com said theory debunked and somehow, for some reason, All of a sudden the media has flipped on this.

00:33:09.000 And my first point is like, hey, it's about time people are taking this seriously.

00:33:14.000 And also, wait a minute.

00:33:18.000 What happened?

00:33:19.000 I don't just believe all of these different media institutions and political establishment

00:33:24.000 elites just decided.

00:33:28.000 I just realized maybe it's true. Is there perhaps an agenda behind why all of a sudden they've decided to say yes

00:33:35.000 Let's investigate Wuhan I'm not sure about that. I think I

00:33:39.000 Doubt that the Democrats in the overall You know media consensus is we want to toughen up on China

00:33:47.000 and demonize China worse now. I'm I'm I'm not saying they've coordinated anything.

00:33:52.000 The media, I think, is just deferential to what the establishment elites say.

00:33:57.000 Apparently, to me, what made the change was a guy, I forget his name, Sims maybe?

00:34:03.000 who had been the New York Times science reporter for like 30 years.

00:34:07.000 And this is not the guy that got fired over saying the N-word.

00:34:09.000 This is a different guy.

00:34:10.000 Different guy.

00:34:11.000 Okay, not the N-word guy. 0.96

00:34:12.000 And that story was completely ridiculous, by the way.

00:34:14.000 But anyway, so this is the other guy.

00:34:14.000 Yes, it was.

00:34:16.000 And they wouldn't publish the thing at the New York Times.

00:34:19.000 He just published it at medium.com.

00:34:21.000 But it's, I don't know how many words it says at the top, 47-minute read.

00:34:26.000 Wow.

00:34:27.000 So it's like a 20,000-word article or something about how, geez, guys, we don't have the proof, but it really does look like it was the lab.

00:34:36.000 But that means man-made, or manipulated, like Fauci said he wasn't convinced it was naturally occurring.

00:34:42.000 Right.

00:34:44.000 And this is the deal.

00:34:45.000 It's this gain-of-function research where they deliberately make viruses more and more deadly on the theory that they can keep it locked up in the lab and that then they can anticipate future viruses.

00:34:56.000 We're going to engineer a virus that attacks the ACE2 receptor on your lung cells and then we're going to figure out how to kill that virus.

00:35:03.000 So that then if a virus similar to this ends up breaking out into the public, we'll know how to fight it.

00:35:09.000 So that's the theory.

00:35:10.000 But of course, it's really dangerous work because what they're doing is they're deliberately evolving these viruses to be more and more contagious, more and more transmissible, because otherwise it takes too long.

00:35:21.000 And to go through the steps.

00:35:23.000 So you have to make it as infectious as possible so you can hurry up and do the next stage of the experiment.

00:35:28.000 But they were doing it in a lab that we had repeatedly heard warnings about for having lax security procedures.

00:35:34.000 Well and Obama outlawed it.

00:35:36.000 It was the Obama White House requested that Congress outlaw this.

00:35:40.000 And they could have done it just by executive order or something, I guess.

00:35:43.000 They had Congress pass a law and ban this.

00:35:47.000 But the law has a loophole that says that if the proper authority The U.S.

00:35:51.000 determines that there's a national emergency, then you can go ahead.

00:35:55.000 And it was Fauci who signed off on the national emergency.

00:35:58.000 But we can't go ahead here, but we can finance this group that's financing the research

00:36:03.000 President Stubbs is telling us it's a national emergency.

00:36:03.000 in Wuhan.

00:36:05.000 We got to slow down. And we jumped the connection. The U.S.

00:36:10.000 was providing funding to this lab.

00:36:12.000 Right.

00:36:12.000 So can you explain?

00:36:13.000 Yeah. So it was under the National Institutes of Health.

00:36:18.000 Then there's a subcontractor.

00:36:19.000 I'm sorry, I forgot the name of the company that's the subcontractor.

00:36:22.000 It's like EcoHealth or something.

00:36:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:24.000 Something like that.

00:36:25.000 And then those guys were actually the ones in charge of the investigation as to what happened.

00:36:29.000 Everybody took their word for it.

00:36:30.000 I love it!

00:36:32.000 Innocent of any wrongdoing.

00:36:33.000 That's right.

00:36:34.000 By the way, so at the beginning, when you said everybody denounced Trump, that's not exactly right.

00:36:38.000 The head of the CDC at the time, the bald guy with the beard, I'm sorry, I forgot his name.

00:36:43.000 That's not Redfield, is it?

00:36:44.000 Yes.

00:36:45.000 Yes, Redfield said he thought that it must have been engineered in a lab.

00:36:49.000 And the famous Nobel laureate virologist said the same thing.

00:36:54.000 Luke, what's his name?

00:36:55.000 I don't remember his name.

00:36:56.000 I'm not sure.

00:36:56.000 He was called a conspiracy theorist.

00:36:57.000 He was nuts. 0.87

00:36:58.000 But see, now they're like, oh, well, Fauci said it, so.

00:37:00.000 Well, and you also have Josh Rogin, who is, you know, very close to the war party and writes for the Washington Post, and he's just put out a new book about this as well, that says, like, we don't have the proof, but boy, does it sure look like this must be what happened.

00:37:16.000 So a lot of people have mentioned this Medium post.

00:37:19.000 And there was one viral tweet that was like, think about that.

00:37:22.000 The only reason this story is getting out is because someone wrote a story on Medium because our media establishment wouldn't accept it.

00:37:28.000 And the New York Times wouldn't publish their own science reporter.

00:37:31.000 Right, right, right.

00:37:32.000 But we've had whistleblowers.

00:37:34.000 We had a researcher out of the University of Hong Kong saying, looked like a lab leak, and they knew people who were involved in it, and that was all rejected.

00:37:43.000 All lies, all conspiracy.

00:37:45.000 Trump said without evidence, Trump said without evidence.

00:37:48.000 All of a sudden now this guy writes this Medium post.

00:37:50.000 So here's what it is.

00:37:51.000 Here's what it is.

00:37:53.000 It's not so much about why are they open to the possibility now, as much as why did they refuse to discuss this possibility all last year?

00:38:02.000 And you already hit the key there, because it was Trump that said it.

00:38:06.000 And they had an agenda to hang the virus around his neck no matter what.

00:38:11.000 So, and frankly, You know, his leadership on the issue the first few months there was not so much to be admired.

00:38:19.000 And so this was the thing that they're going to use as the millstone to hang around his neck.

00:38:24.000 Now, if the virus came out of the lab in China, China, China, China, that fits in with his narrative and is handing him a point, maybe a few points.

00:38:34.000 And now what's interesting, though, right, is that they could have turned it right back around again.

00:38:39.000 Although they would have had to sacrifice their boy Fauci.

00:38:43.000 They would have had to say that actually it is Trump's fault because Trump wasn't doing his job preventing Fauci from signing this emergency authorization to allow this virus to go on.

00:38:53.000 So they could have still made it all Trump's fault anyway, but they would have had to go around the long way.

00:38:59.000 And it was easier to just say, well, it came from nature and this guy just did nothing but sit on his hands and that's why everybody's dead.

00:39:05.000 And there's no way they were going to let This complicated story break out in the summer and become a real topic of conversation if they could squelch it.

00:39:15.000 And they did squelch it.

00:39:16.000 They did not want to give Trump an opportunity for a win, period.

00:39:19.000 So no matter what he said, it was bad.

00:39:21.000 And so the media was just, they're bread and butter the whole time.

00:39:24.000 Now CNN's ratings just on fire, MSNBC, everyone's in the gutter because it was just, that's what they were living off of.

00:39:31.000 Anger at Donald Trump.

00:39:32.000 But let me tell you, it's really easy to criticize the media.

00:39:34.000 I think most people get it at this point.

00:39:37.000 I'll tell you what's shocking to me.

00:39:38.000 This story, which just went up, like, what was it, like, now, 40 minutes ago, from Fox News, Senate advances measure barring taxpayer funds for China's Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:39:50.000 Amendment added by GOP Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa to the Endless Frontier Act, which seeks to counter China, Only now!

00:39:59.000 It's been a year and a half.

00:40:01.000 Almost, a year and a half.

00:40:02.000 They already had a law like this.

00:40:04.000 Why don't they just take out the part that says that Fauci can sign an emergency authorization?

00:40:08.000 Yeah.

00:40:09.000 That's all they gotta do is take out that one sentence.

00:40:10.000 Why didn't they fire that guy?

00:40:12.000 You know, I will say, I would love to see one, if there was one debate that I could see between, you know, a couple people, it would be Fauci, debating Fauci, with Fauci stepping in.

00:40:21.000 Because Fauci's been anti-mask, he's been pro-mask, he said go on cruises, said cruises are dangerous, he said it's not gonna be a big deal, it's gonna be a really big deal, he said two masks, it's just common sense, he said two masks, there's no evidence suggesting, and then he said CDC guidelines say you should wear two masks.

00:40:38.000 He's just like Trump!

00:40:40.000 He's on all sides of every issue, so you can pick and choose, and if you want to like him, then you can go, I agree with half of the stuff this guy says.

00:40:47.000 That's pretty good.

00:40:48.000 So I know, like you mentioned the other day, Lydia, that Crowder had a Fauci debating Fauci, but we need an updated Fauci debating Fauci.

00:40:56.000 You know why he was first famous was because when the AIDS epidemic was first breaking out in the 1980s, he was the guy who pushed that, no, we must only fund vaccine research and we must do everything we can to thwart people who are trying to come up with medications to treat it.

00:41:16.000 Now, here we are in the year 2021.

00:41:20.000 There's no AIDS vaccine.

00:41:22.000 There's no vaccine for HIV.

00:41:23.000 There never has been.

00:41:24.000 They, you know, tried working on it from time to time.

00:41:26.000 They never came up with one.

00:41:28.000 Who'd have RNA do it? 0.61

00:41:29.000 The reason, well I don't know, but the reason that people survive with AIDS now is because of the drugs that Fauci suppressed.

00:41:37.000 And, you know, I saw on Twitter someone showed an old sign of an AIDS rally from like 1984 or 1985.

00:41:43.000 And the guy's sign says, Dr. Fauci, you're killing us.

00:41:50.000 Wow, really?

00:41:51.000 Yeah.

00:41:52.000 We got this next story from CNBC.

00:41:53.000 And it was AZT was the big drug that he was trying to suppress, and that was the first big breakthrough drug that helped AIDS patients.

00:42:00.000 Wait, AZT?

00:42:00.000 Wow.

00:42:01.000 Yeah.

00:42:02.000 Is that the same drug that's been brought up?

00:42:04.000 Azithromycin?

00:42:05.000 Or no?

00:42:06.000 No, I don't know.

00:42:06.000 I don't know.

00:42:07.000 Well, so they made a Matthew McConaughey movie out of this the Drug Buyers Club or was it the Buyers Club?

00:42:12.000 Oh, yeah, Dallas.

00:42:13.000 Dallas Buyers Club.

00:42:14.000 Yeah, where this is it's AIDS patients and Dr. Fauci won't let them buy medicine.

00:42:18.000 So they got to go down to Mexico to get the medicine.

00:42:21.000 That's who this guy is.

00:42:22.000 40 years.

00:42:22.000 He's been entrenched in this industry at least.

00:42:24.000 And seriously, let's just entertain the possibility for a second because it's not proven yet, okay?

00:42:27.000 But let's just say that he signed this emergency authorization that allowed the money to go to this subcontractor to continue pushing this research at Wuhan.

00:42:36.000 Fauci just killed a couple of million people.

00:42:40.000 Including about 600,000 Americans.

00:42:42.000 I don't know what was the last count of number of Americans who've died of this thing, but I guarantee you it's higher than the official count.

00:42:47.000 The excess death rate is much higher.

00:42:49.000 Let's do some math and be fair, alright?

00:42:51.000 If everybody wore a mask from the get-go, according to the CDC, that would have helped prevent the spread.

00:42:57.000 So they say, okay, well then if everybody did, there'd be a lot less dead, right?

00:43:02.000 Well, in the beginning Fauci said not to wear a mask because he wanted to make sure the doctors got it.

00:43:05.000 He later admitted that, that, well, you know, we said that because we were worried the doctors wouldn't get it.

00:43:11.000 As I pointed out yesterday, the reason the doctors need the masks... It's because people aren't wearing masks!

00:43:16.000 It's because people don't wear masks, get sick, and then go to the hospital, and so the doctors need to wear them too.

00:43:20.000 If everybody was wearing masks, you'd have a lot less people in hospitals.

00:43:23.000 Doctors wouldn't need as many.

00:43:25.000 Fauci lied, and people died.

00:43:26.000 And he could have just said, listen, please, for the love of God, everybody, save the N95s for the doctors. 1.00

00:43:33.000 Yes.

00:43:33.000 But wear two bandanas, or something.

00:43:35.000 Yeah, he could have said wear a scarf.

00:43:37.000 I mean, people walk around with masks, they take a handkerchief.

00:43:39.000 He could have said, you don't need the N95s, just pull your shirt up and put something over your face.

00:43:44.000 Instead, he lied, because he was worried that people would buy up the medical supplies.

00:43:48.000 Although, you know, at this point, and honestly, I don't read up on the germ nearly as much as I was a year ago.

00:43:54.000 So I am behind on this.

00:43:55.000 But it really looks like the masks are red herring.

00:43:57.000 Because, you know, Tom Woods sends out his daily email.

00:44:01.000 And one of the things that he's constantly doing is comparing the states with the different levels of mask mandate at the same time.

00:44:07.000 And the curves are always the same.

00:44:11.000 I think they have studies that say that, like, if you and I are wearing masks, we're less likely to transfer it to each other here and now in this room.

00:44:18.000 But if you try to extrapolate that out and say you have to, everyone in Virginia must wear a mask, it doesn't work.

00:44:24.000 It doesn't make a difference.

00:44:26.000 You gotta wash your mask too.

00:44:29.000 And the reason they thought the masks worked so well in the first place was because in countries like South Korea and in China and Hong Kong and Taiwan, they were all wearing masks and not getting very sick.

00:44:41.000 But that wasn't what it was.

00:44:43.000 It was because they have a much stronger immunity to coronaviruses.

00:44:43.000 It only seemed like it.

00:44:48.000 Because they're exposed to many more coronaviruses than we do.

00:44:51.000 So here's the big challenge.

00:44:53.000 Right now, we've seen Texas and Florida, they dropped everything.

00:44:57.000 They said, we're open for business.

00:44:59.000 And a bunch of Republican states did the same thing. 0.65

00:45:01.000 And Joe Biden comes out, and this was months ago, he was like, we might need a longer lockdown and more restrictions.

00:45:07.000 And everyone was joking, like, go to Florida.

00:45:09.000 Who's Biden talking to?

00:45:11.000 The problem is, YouTube, we're at risk right now of getting totally pulled off just for even bringing this up.

00:45:17.000 There have been channels that have been outright deleted with no warning for simply mentioning what you just said.

00:45:23.000 But what are we supposed to do when we have clear examples in the political arena of states, and then when Fauci is brought on the Today Show and they say, how do you explain this?

00:45:31.000 He goes, I can't.

00:45:32.000 Right.

00:45:32.000 Then why are we listening to this guy, a TV doctor, who doesn't know what he's talking about, and for some reason, they act like he's an expert, they make action figures of him, they call it the Fauci Ouchie.

00:45:43.000 That is a cult.

00:45:44.000 I'm sorry, this guy's not an expert.

00:45:46.000 He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, and they're acting like what he says is gospel.

00:45:50.000 I like Tucker Carlson's take on this.

00:45:52.000 He goes, you know, this guy with all his lockdowns and all his recommendations, I think maybe he's overcompensating for something here.

00:46:02.000 That this guy, he's known all along.

00:46:04.000 He's the one who did this to us.

00:46:07.000 He's the one who unleashed this virus on the planet.

00:46:10.000 And now he's going around talking about how you and you and you aren't doing enough to protect yourselves from this thing.

00:46:15.000 I thought you were going to say something else.

00:46:17.000 Do you remember the episode of The Simpsons where they, I don't know what happened, there was like a council took over and then comic book guy is like trying to pass a law and he goes like, as the most logical species in the galaxy, the Vulcans, mating will now be, will now take place only once every seven years.

00:46:35.000 For most of you this will be much, much less mating, but for me, much, much more.

00:46:39.000 So the joke would be Fauci's like, we're gonna lock down because then, you know, nobody can have, you know. 0.82

00:46:43.000 In the UK, actually, you couldn't go and have sex with somebody.

00:46:47.000 They actually banned that stuff. 0.89

00:46:49.000 That's where I thought you were going.

00:46:50.000 I was like, Fauci's like, he's an old man.

00:46:51.000 Are there examples of gain-of-function working?

00:46:55.000 I don't know.

00:46:56.000 That's a good question.

00:46:57.000 Like, whether they actually ever pre-empted a naturally occurring virus, because they've been doing such a good job experimenting on possible ones.

00:47:03.000 I don't think so.

00:47:04.000 I think we would have heard of that, right?

00:47:06.000 That's not how they stopped MERS. 0.98

00:47:08.000 That's not how they stopped SARS.

00:47:09.000 They stopped those because you had to have a really high fever to spread it.

00:47:13.000 And so they were able to just lock everybody down.

00:47:15.000 And I think SARS spread to Canada and they just kept it in one city and it never worked out from there.

00:47:21.000 But we're not supposed to know about what's going on in the Wuhan lab.

00:47:24.000 And we don't know about what's going on in American labs to a great degree.

00:47:27.000 A lot of it's just classified secret.

00:47:29.000 And the American labs have better security protocols.

00:47:32.000 They better.

00:47:33.000 It's looking more and more like lab leak is legit.

00:47:37.000 I mean the Wall Street Journal said three people from the lab were hospitalized.

00:47:41.000 Hospitalized with some similar illness.

00:47:43.000 And they only told us that two days ago.

00:47:45.000 That's right, that's right.

00:47:46.000 And they knew, the report was from last year, I think.

00:47:50.000 Right, yeah, it was a CIA report.

00:47:51.000 And you would get banned on YouTube for saying it.

00:47:54.000 You would get banned on YouTube for saying all of these things the media is now saying, oh yeah, I guess so.

00:47:59.000 Fauci himself coming out and saying this, and it's like, I gotta worry about censorship?

00:48:03.000 We were right!

00:48:04.000 Back to the larger point about the media, right?

00:48:06.000 And this is a headline, I actually didn't get a chance to read it yet, but I saw Matt Taibbi's new piece.

00:48:10.000 It's called The Death of Fact Checking.

00:48:12.000 Oh yeah, I saw that too.

00:48:13.000 How is Glenn Kessler at the Washington Post going to pretend to be a fact checker anymore when he's not right?

00:48:20.000 He doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

00:48:22.000 PolitiFact claimed they debunked Tucker Carlson's show because they got an expert to give their opinion.

00:48:28.000 That is not how you debunk something.

00:48:30.000 If someone makes a video and there is an eagle that picks up a baby and flies away, which is like it was a viral video that happened at some point, you debunk it by investigating the source material, Putting it through an analysis to track light and artifacts in the video, and then point to it and say, here's my proposal, I believe this is evidence, and then you have an expert opinion breaking down all the facts.

00:48:54.000 Just having some guy go on TV and say, he's got an opinion, I got an opinion, okay, yours is the correct opinion, thanks, you have a nice day.

00:49:00.000 That's not debunking anything.

00:49:02.000 Look, they say trust the science, but what they mean is trust the scientists that we have here saying things, when science itself is nothing but a process for debunking things.

00:49:12.000 It's not something to be tru- I mean, you can trust it in the sense that it's an effective way to try to debunk things, but it's not a set of answers in a book somewhere that you just...

00:49:22.000 Instead of God, we have science now.

00:49:24.000 We just believe whatever he says.

00:49:26.000 But... Right.

00:49:27.000 There's no he there.

00:49:28.000 We have this guy.

00:49:28.000 I want to show you this Wikipedia real quick.

00:49:30.000 Luc Montagnier.

00:49:32.000 He is a French virologist and the joint recipient of the Francois-Barre-Sinoui... I'm pouncing it wrong.

00:49:38.000 Sinou.

00:49:39.000 And blah blah blah.

00:49:41.000 Of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology of Medicine for his discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus HIV.

00:49:48.000 Down over coronavirus pandemic, they say.

00:49:50.000 This is on his Wikipedia page.

00:49:52.000 Montagnier argued that the coronavirus disease 2019 was man-made in a laboratory, and that it might have been the result of an attempt to create a vaccine for HIV.

00:50:00.000 His allegations came after the United States had launched a probe into whether the virus came from a laboratory.

00:50:05.000 According to Montagnier, the presence of elements of HIV and germ of malaria in the genome of the coronavirus is highly suspect, and the characteristics of the virus could not have arisen naturally.

00:50:14.000 Initially, this was described as a conspiracy vision that does not relate to real science by Jean-Francois Delfracy, an immunologist and the head of the Scientific Council that advises the French government on the COVID pandemic.

00:50:29.000 However, Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, admitted on May 11, 2021 that he no longer is convinced that COVID-19 originated naturally.

00:50:41.000 This guy was called a conspiracy theorist, and he is a Nobel Prize-winning virologist.

00:50:47.000 And only now, because Fauci agrees with him, we're supposed to now say, okay?

00:50:51.000 No, no.

00:50:52.000 When the award-winning virologist comes out and says, here's what I think, we go, wow.

00:50:56.000 I mean, he's the expert, right?

00:50:57.000 Hey, the head of the CDC said the same thing!

00:51:00.000 Let me point this out.

00:51:01.000 When Tucker Carlson has a guest on the show who can cite an award-winning Nobel laureate for his hypothesis, not even statement of fact, and PolitiFact says, we got some guy who gave us his opinion that you're wrong, so it's debunked!

00:51:15.000 And then Vox and all these other outlets and CNN can say it's fake news now.

00:51:19.000 How is it reality for these fact-checkers when the experts, the actual award-winning experts, are at odds with them?

00:51:27.000 Who are these random people they put on the news and then claim are experts to debunk what you are saying?

00:51:32.000 It's fake news.

00:51:32.000 They're writing fake stories.

00:51:34.000 This Vox reporter, I tweeted about this, she wrote a fabricated story.

00:51:37.000 Vox.com wrote fake news.

00:51:41.000 When are any of these fact-checkers gonna come out?

00:51:42.000 Any of these organizations?

00:51:44.000 NewsGuard!

00:51:44.000 I'm talking to you!

00:51:45.000 I use you guys.

00:51:46.000 I reference NewsGuard, who sites... Are you gonna go now to every single one of these outlets that debunked LabLeak with no evidence, and their debunk was an opinion from some guy, and now claim they publish fake news?

00:51:59.000 What if I get a former CIA official who comes and talks about some crazy conspiracies involving aliens?

00:52:04.000 Well, I got a CIA official.

00:52:05.000 It must be true.

00:52:06.000 They do this all the time.

00:52:07.000 They pick and choose based on what they think is socially acceptable.

00:52:10.000 But you know what, there's a reason why your show pulls more viewers than any show on CNN.

00:52:17.000 It's because people are over it.

00:52:18.000 In the key demo, they got the old people. 0.99

00:52:22.000 We got the younger people.

00:52:23.000 And remember too, by the way, I had forgotten about this, but there were two Indian Virologists at the very beginning who said they thought it was a lab leak because of the presence of what they recognized as pieces of HIV.

00:52:33.000 And they were told that they were complete kooks.

00:52:36.000 Written off the face of the earth.

00:52:36.000 Remember that?

00:52:37.000 And some of these initial reports, these initial publications were retracted because the media said so.

00:52:44.000 Because people were scared their reputations would be destroyed.

00:52:47.000 Well this guy, this Luke Montagna guy, he's 88.

00:52:50.000 I'm sure he doesn't care much about anything at this point.

00:52:52.000 He's like, I'm just gonna say it.

00:52:53.000 And it's it's this first of all please use this as another example we often have many examples to your friends and family when they're like I trust the media say Here you go.

00:53:07.000 Here you go.

00:53:07.000 Fauci is now admitting.

00:53:08.000 They called the Nobel Prize winner who discovered AIDS a conspiracy, HIV, sorry, a conspiracy theorist for saying, in my expert opinion, having discovered HIV, this is what I think about this.

00:53:20.000 They were like, conspiracy.

00:53:22.000 What?

00:53:23.000 He didn't say it was a conspiracy.

00:53:25.000 He didn't suggest a group of people came together to commit a crime in secret.

00:53:29.000 He was just like, people do gain of function all the time.

00:53:31.000 In fact, if you go back a year, What they would say about this always, in fact I remember Tucker Carlson refuting the debunking of his show, is they put words in his mouth that he said it was a biological weapon that was being used deliberately.

00:53:49.000 I never said anything about a weapon.

00:53:53.000 Nobody ever thought, nobody ever claimed that if somebody's working on germs in a laboratory that that's biological weapons research.

00:54:02.000 What we think may have happened here was somebody accidentally got infected, which happens.

00:54:07.000 And then they spread it and it got out to the world.

00:54:09.000 And they go, oh no, you're debunked.

00:54:11.000 It's the Stephen King novel.

00:54:13.000 They made a movie, The Stand, and they were working on a virus in like Florida.

00:54:16.000 Go watch that. 0.71

00:54:17.000 Emergency.

00:54:18.000 And then everyone's like freaking out.

00:54:19.000 One of the employees is like, I got to get out.

00:54:21.000 I got to save my family and get out of the city.

00:54:23.000 They lock the whole city down.

00:54:24.000 He like escapes and gets his family and flees to Texas.

00:54:27.000 Gets to a gas station and spreads it to like eight people.

00:54:30.000 And then that's how.

00:54:31.000 Or like in 28 Days Later when they have the chimp infected and they're doing experiments and then the eco animal activists free it and zombies spread or whatever. 0.93

00:54:40.000 This is what the fact checkers do.

00:54:41.000 That's why they're so afraid of this idea of a lab leak is because of movies like that.

00:54:41.000 It's in people's mind.

00:54:45.000 This is what fact-checkers do at these organizations like Snow and PolitiFact.

00:54:50.000 They'll say something like, oh, you know, Scott Horton's here on the TimCast podcast.

00:54:54.000 Fact check.

00:54:56.000 People have claimed on Twitter that Scott Horton appeared on the TimCast IRL show.

00:55:01.000 Question.

00:55:02.000 Did Scott Horton appear on the TimCast IRL podcast... with ice cream?

00:55:08.000 False.

00:55:09.000 And then it's like, no one ever said he had ice cream, but they add that tiny little bit that makes no sense, and the whole thing becomes fake.

00:55:16.000 And then at the bottom they'll say, you know, they'll give you a bunch of verbose garbage you don't want to read, where it'll be like, in 2017, Tim Pool got the idea for putting on a show, and they'll talk about all this nonsense, and then right at the bottom, in one sentence, while he did appear on the show, he did not have ice cream.

00:55:30.000 So people see these fact checks and they screencap and they share it with their friends.

00:55:34.000 See, it's false.

00:55:34.000 It's not true.

00:55:36.000 Actually read it.

00:55:37.000 That's what the media does. 0.96

00:55:37.000 Why don't you? 0.96

00:55:39.000 You gotta share this stuff.

00:55:40.000 You lie to people so many times in a row, you radicalize the hell out of them and make them mad as hell.

00:55:45.000 I mean, this is the deal.

00:55:47.000 You can't just keep doing the same thing over and over and over to people.

00:55:51.000 Because it stops working.

00:55:53.000 I hope that Fauci will be one of the greatest tools in waking people up to the lies of the establishment and the media. 0.90

00:56:02.000 We need just like a 30 second clip of Fauci contradicting himself in really dumb ways.

00:56:06.000 Especially if it's really proven that he did this.

00:56:09.000 That this really does come from his funding.

00:56:13.000 So what the fact check said is, well, you know, so Rand Paul questioned Fauci in this congressional hearing, and Fauci denied providing, we never funded any of this, you are wrong, and that's not true, the funding was provided.

00:56:27.000 But what was really funny is PolitiFact said, Well, they were technically doing gain-of-function research, but there's different definitions of what that means, so it's not necessarily true.

00:56:37.000 But what really happened is that, yes, there was money provided by the NIH, but it was kind of like a general pool.

00:56:45.000 It wasn't allocated, so even though they used some of it for gain-of-function, we don't... It's like, did they really... Basically, what they're saying is, Well, they didn't explicitly sign off, do gain-of-function research.

00:56:56.000 Therefore, Rand Paul is wrong.

00:56:58.000 So, like, if you were building a skate park, and I was like, well, here, let me allocate a bunch of money to you to do whatever you want with it.

00:57:04.000 And you're like, okay, I'll build a skate park with it.

00:57:06.000 And I'm like, well, I didn't give you money to build a skate park.

00:57:09.000 I gave you money, you were building a skate park, and you used it to build the skate park.

00:57:12.000 So, we'll break it down.

00:57:14.000 Ian puts a million dollars up.

00:57:17.000 Tim Pool built a skate park with that money.

00:57:19.000 And then when someone says, Ian, you funded the creation of this skate park.

00:57:23.000 He goes, no, I didn't.

00:57:24.000 And then the fact check says false.

00:57:26.000 Ian provided a million dollars for general purposes.

00:57:29.000 It wasn't to build a skate park.

00:57:30.000 While it is true that Tim Pool built a skate park.

00:57:33.000 And there it is.

00:57:34.000 Yes, the money came from the U.S.

00:57:35.000 government, from this source.

00:57:37.000 Yes, it went to Wuhan.

00:57:38.000 Yes, they did this thing, but they didn't mean to.

00:57:41.000 That's the media. That's the game they play. The weird thing is I am more comfortable and at ease with this whole

00:57:46.000 thing knowing it's from a lab than thinking it just came from nature.

00:57:49.000 Well, you don't know it's from a lab. Assuming that it, thinking, if I could pick, thinking that we were working on

00:57:56.000 a virus that infected some people and it is way easier and like good, okay, at least we're trying to do something as

00:58:03.000 opposed to just naturally some random virus came and started destroying humanity.

00:58:07.000 In fact the SARS and MERS were like the two novel viruses from the last 20 years and luckily and they were very dangerous but they were only very dangerous to a small number of people they were able to contain them.

00:58:20.000 So this is actually one of the hypotheses is that they were bringing bats in because they were doing experiments on COVID on the bat coronavirus Because of how dangerous it was.

00:58:31.000 And the gain-of-function research was an attempt to create a vaccine.

00:58:34.000 I'm not saying that's true.

00:58:35.000 These are some of the theories that are in some of these mainstream publications talking about what may have happened.

00:58:39.000 And then it leaked from the lab.

00:58:41.000 There was a story about... We covered this.

00:58:44.000 We talked about it on the show.

00:58:45.000 That one of the people got sprayed with bat urine or something.

00:58:47.000 Someone got bit.

00:58:49.000 So these stories were already out there.

00:58:51.000 But you run the risk of Google banning you if you dare bring it up.

00:58:55.000 The double standard.

00:58:57.000 The media is allowed to claim everything's a conspiracy theory.

00:58:59.000 They're allowed to determine what is or isn't true, and Google just allows it.

00:59:02.000 They censor and suppress the actual... We gotta go back to 2016.

00:59:06.000 This is all because of the giant fake Russia hoax.

00:59:09.000 All of this comes from the lie that Donald Trump and the Russians colluded to steal the election of 2016.

00:59:15.000 How do we get from there to there?

00:59:18.000 Because all of this censorship comes from that.

00:59:21.000 You know, whatever you're saying that disagrees with the party line, this is Russian disinformation.

00:59:26.000 You're not just wrong, this is dangerous.

00:59:28.000 And you're a de facto agent of a foreign power.

00:59:31.000 So this is when they really started deranking people from Google searches.

00:59:35.000 When they really started kicking people off of Twitter and Facebook.

00:59:38.000 And just like with the germ here, for getting things exactly right.

00:59:42.000 For saying that the Russia hoax was absolutely a hoax.

00:59:45.000 Carter Page wasn't a traitor, he was a loyal American patriot.

00:59:49.000 And let's talk about exactly right.

00:59:50.000 When Tucker brought up LabLeak, he didn't definitively state it was or wasn't.

00:59:55.000 He said, these are interesting questions.

00:59:56.000 He was exactly right to ask those questions, which are now being admitted to by Fauci.

01:00:00.000 But the media said it was a lie.

01:00:02.000 You can't trust these people.

01:00:04.000 And so, you know, I know a lot of people, they love watching this show.

01:00:07.000 I, I, I, I, uh, there's, there's a bias fact checker thing that people were posting.

01:00:12.000 And it was really funny.

01:00:13.000 It said that Tim on Twitter, Tim pool has a, has a right wing blind spot, meaning

01:00:16.000 most of the stories I tweet about are from the left, but it's because

01:00:20.000 mainstream media is the left.

01:00:22.000 So I use news guard, which I referenced earlier, rather angrily.

01:00:26.000 They certify what is or isn't factual news.

01:00:29.000 They'll be like, oh, this website has bad standards and has good standards.

01:00:33.000 Daily Wire is rated as having bad standards.

01:00:35.000 It's a conservative opinion website.

01:00:38.000 What they report on is fact-based.

01:00:39.000 It's just their opinions and their opinions can be wrong.

01:00:41.000 Media Matters, which is just activism, is rated green across the board.

01:00:46.000 So it's not that I have a left bias, it's that the organizations, the institutions, have an institutional left establishment bias.

01:00:54.000 A liberal bias, right?

01:00:55.000 They hate the left.

01:00:56.000 They'll go after and persecute real leftists.

01:00:59.000 They'll use them.

01:01:01.000 Yeah, once they started kicking all the right-wingers off of Twitter, and deranking them on Google, they said, no, but we're being fair.

01:01:09.000 Because we're also picking on the left, too.

01:01:12.000 And they went after Truthdig, Truthout, the World Socialist website, which is the Trotskyites, and they threw antiwar.com in there, even though we're libertarians, I guess they just assume we're leftists.

01:01:23.000 So we got deranked by Google, along with everybody else.

01:01:26.000 That's right.

01:01:33.000 Occupy Wall Street activists got banned.

01:01:35.000 I saw you guys got listed in, it was a blacklist of some sort, probably Google.

01:01:40.000 And I remember talking to a bunch of conservatives being like, dude, they're going after the people who oppose the establishment.

01:01:45.000 It's not.

01:01:46.000 They'll gleefully use the leftists.

01:01:49.000 And unfortunately, a lot of these young leftists don't know who these people are.

01:01:54.000 They weren't around in politics when Joe Biden was vice president.

01:01:58.000 So they think he's the hero.

01:02:00.000 Or to be fair, the DSA types in the early 20s think, sure, he's bad, but he's not a fascist.

01:02:06.000 And I'm like, I got news for you about the Biden-Obama years and what Biden was doing with his brother.

01:02:12.000 So sure, call him whatever you want.

01:02:14.000 Crooked.

01:02:14.000 How about that?

01:02:15.000 But they weren't around for it.

01:02:16.000 So they vote for this guy.

01:02:17.000 They get exploited.

01:02:19.000 And that's why Democrats love younger voters. 0.89

01:02:21.000 A 16-year-old doesn't have the memory of what they did 10 years ago.

01:02:26.000 Exploitation.

01:02:27.000 That's the name of the game.

01:02:28.000 So they'll censor everybody.

01:02:30.000 But here's what ends up happening.

01:02:32.000 Trump was very powerful in terms of upsetting the establishment.

01:02:37.000 Trump's followers were very prominent and influential.

01:02:40.000 They had to get rid of those people.

01:02:42.000 They cut it, they smack it from the middle, and then Trump loses a lot of his core evangelizers, these prominent personalities.

01:02:50.000 That means less grassroots, you know, people rising up.

01:02:53.000 They ban subreddits like The Donald, this massive subreddit where people are posting memes and having a good time.

01:02:58.000 They cut it out from the ground up, and then Trump falls.

01:03:01.000 They had to go after him with all of their force.

01:03:03.000 That means the conservatives were getting the brunt of the censorship, but there were very much so many leftists who were anti-establishment as well, and screaming and saying F you to the Democrats the whole way, and they got nuked too, but there were fewer of them.

01:03:17.000 So what ends up happening is the whole narrative becomes conservative, the liberals end up just saying it's fake news, conservatives are lying, it's a private company, and then many leftists who get banned Apparently weren't loud enough because leftists are always fighting with each other as well.

01:03:31.000 A lot of leftists decided to align themselves with Democrats because, as they described it, it's easier to overthrow a feeble old man than it is a fascist, so they decided they were going to support Joe Biden.

01:03:43.000 For some reason, they didn't then speak up for their own, or, if they did, and this is the problem, A conservative gets banned, the leftist laughs.

01:03:52.000 The leftist gets banned and then demands the conservative stand up for them, and the conservative

01:03:56.000 does. 0.98

01:03:57.000 Some conservatives started saying, you know what, screw you, I'm going to laugh as you 0.99

01:04:00.000 get cancelled. 0.99

01:04:01.000 But, this is the problem of censorship.

01:04:03.000 It is the Democratic establishment and the old neocon establishment which got fractured

01:04:08.000 as soon as Trump stormed into the party, but all those people, the Lincoln Project people,

01:04:11.000 are very much still aligned with all of the Democrats.

01:04:14.000 They've become one big—they've always been one big uniparty, but now there's, like, real opposition fomenting.

01:04:20.000 And ultimately, I think the censorship will get worse.

01:04:24.000 I think it'll impact us.

01:04:25.000 We've talked a great deal about it.

01:04:27.000 The lab leak theory, we weren't allowed to talk about.

01:04:29.000 You know, we were—we had to be very careful in talking about it.

01:04:33.000 And now here we are, with Fauci himself deciding it's okay, and now—now it's okay.

01:04:37.000 Yeah.

01:04:38.000 Well, you know, I think it's really one of the major crises of our era is the left, the further left, really giving up on freedom of speech and bringing the liberals with them.

01:04:51.000 You know, it used to be the liberals were the ones who would go to court to fight for your right to say whatever you want that they disagree with, but they really don't.

01:04:58.000 Yeah, they've taken really much more of a totalitarian sort of a left.

01:05:03.000 You know, my friend Anthony Gregory says, It used to always be the best thing about the left was that they weren't the liberals.

01:05:10.000 And the best thing about the liberals was that they weren't the left.

01:05:13.000 Because you need them both, right?

01:05:15.000 Because the liberals have made their peace with capitalism and guns.

01:05:19.000 I mean, they're not coming for them.

01:05:21.000 No, no, the liberals are the anti-gun ones.

01:05:23.000 The leftists love guns.

01:05:24.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:05:26.000 Traditionally, the liberals have their background checks and so forth, but they're not taking them.

01:05:31.000 I disagree, man.

01:05:33.000 Listen, listen.

01:05:34.000 Right now, the leftists on Twitter are posting Karl Marx.

01:05:37.000 Under no pretext shall arms and ammunition be surrendered.

01:05:40.000 The workers must frustrate this by force if necessary.

01:05:44.000 The liberals literally banned a bunch of my guns.

01:05:46.000 Well, that's true that there are some leftists who are good on guns, but I think that those kind of quotes are pretty rare among the real hard left, but especially like on things like speech and war.

01:05:59.000 So it used to be that you could rely on the leftists to be against imperialism, to oppose the FBI and the CIA and all these things, and you could rely on the liberals to, you know, essentially support capitalism and not be, you know, the worst on But like neoliberal capitalism.

01:06:17.000 Yeah, absolutely right.

01:06:17.000 That's right.

01:06:18.000 Crony corporate garbage. 1.00

01:06:20.000 The Hillary Clinton compromise. 0.99

01:06:21.000 So yeah, we're talking about, we're not talking about libertarianism.

01:06:24.000 We're talking about the center left Democrats.

01:06:26.000 But then what happened was Trump was so polarizing that he pushed the leftists and the liberals together, but only for the worse, right?

01:06:34.000 So the liberals abandoned their belief in free speech so that they could collaborate with the leftists on kicking everybody else off.

01:06:42.000 And then the leftists abandon all of their opposition to, not all, but in large measure their opposition to imperialism and to the federal police agencies because who's protecting us from Donald Trump?

01:06:54.000 The FBI and the CIA.

01:06:56.000 And so everybody rally around John Brennan and Robert Mueller because they're protecting us from the big bad fascists.

01:06:56.000 They love him.

01:07:03.000 This is what I said, because I've known all of these Occupy people, these leftists, I said it was the greatest de-radicalization in the history

01:07:12.000 of the United States when I see the far leftists from Occupy cheering for the FBI.

01:07:17.000 And that's all they would do.

01:07:18.000 So I'm on Facebook and I see this hacker guy.

01:07:21.000 This guy has literally been to prison opposing and fighting and being a far leftist.

01:07:27.000 And then he's like, the FBI has raided Giuliani's office.

01:07:30.000 This is, you know, amazing.

01:07:31.000 He's like, finally justice.

01:07:32.000 And I was like, I'm so happy to see that you stepped back from the edge and you've come towards liberalism and now you accept the FBI and the federal government as your saviors and you're no longer on the side of committing crimes.

01:07:45.000 Then another hacker comes in and she's saying, She's like, yes, finally!

01:07:49.000 And I'm like, wow, I am so impressed.

01:07:50.000 I remember you sleeping on the floor of that hacker collective, talking about how you hated the federal government and imperialism, and now here you are cheering for it.

01:07:58.000 I'm just, I'm so impressed with your willingness to finally see the light and step away from this.

01:08:03.000 And they don't know you're being sarcastic.

01:08:05.000 They're like, yeah, thanks.

01:08:06.000 I pat myself on the back, too. 0.98

01:08:08.000 Well, no, they're not all that dumb, but it's like my point was made. 0.95

01:08:12.000 And one guy's like, well, we're allowed to be happy when our enemies are getting hurt. 0.98

01:08:16.000 And I was like, right!

01:08:17.000 You support fascists when they're doing things you like.

01:08:21.000 That makes you a fascist sympathizer.

01:08:23.000 There's the door. 0.88

01:08:24.000 Don't say that to me about Donald Trump when you scream fascism.

01:08:27.000 And the moment you come in and defend authoritarian measures from the government, I'm supposed to act like you're special?

01:08:32.000 No, no, no, no.

01:08:33.000 Yeah, you don't get to play that game.

01:08:35.000 Donald Trump was a human Molotov cocktail.

01:08:37.000 He got thrown in the room. 0.99

01:08:37.000 He was a bull in a china shop. 0.99

01:08:39.000 Whatever, whatever, whatever you want to say, you know, call him.

01:08:39.000 He was a bull in an ivory tower.

01:08:42.000 But these people got so wrapped up in media propaganda, they went insane. 0.88

01:08:46.000 Which brings me- They were probably already insane.

01:08:48.000 Like, being re-radicalized is easy if you live in hate.

01:08:51.000 Like, if they hated the government and wanted to tear it down without, like, a new creation system that they had in plan, then it's easy to take those people and re-divert their hate towards something else.

01:09:01.000 Like, the media pushed us towards Trump.

01:09:02.000 They tried so much, so then they just used the hate.

01:09:05.000 The establishment hated Trump.

01:09:07.000 But I will say one thing, too.

01:09:09.000 What you need to keep in mind about the left is that while many of these leftists that I'm talking about are my age, a lot of the support they get are from people who are 20 who don't know anything about this.

01:09:19.000 They were 10 years old during Occupy Wall Street.

01:09:21.000 They don't know.

01:09:22.000 So Donald Trump comes along.

01:09:23.000 They're teenagers.

01:09:24.000 And Record War II was before they were born.

01:09:26.000 That's right.

01:09:28.000 And they're babies, you know, when all this stuff is going down.

01:09:33.000 A lot of these people were babies or toddlers or kids, even if they were alive.

01:09:36.000 They didn't know anything about it.

01:09:38.000 So I'm like, what makes you think voting for Joe Biden is going to make things better?

01:09:41.000 And we actually had a conversation with this guy.

01:09:44.000 And his response was, oh, I was like a little kid.

01:09:47.000 I was like a teenager during Occupy.

01:09:48.000 I don't know anything about it.

01:09:49.000 I'm like, so when Joe Biden takes over overseeing the Iraq war, and then all of a sudden his brother starts getting the contracts, not suspicious to you.

01:09:57.000 That's what you want to come in. 0.87

01:09:59.000 I take the crazy orange man.

01:10:01.000 Because at the very least, the Abraham Accords, I loved it. 0.98

01:10:05.000 He wasn't perfect, firing Tomahawk missiles, very bad.

01:10:08.000 John Bolton, very bad.

01:10:10.000 Trying, to any degree, to get troops out of the Middle East, I was like, I'll take what I can get. 0.98

01:10:16.000 Instead, we get the neocon establishment again, this time Biden.

01:10:21.000 He's sitting in his little wheelchair with his blank on his lap going, as they just pull the trigger for him.

01:10:29.000 As soon as he gets in, what do we get?

01:10:30.000 Missile strikes in Syria?

01:10:32.000 Unsurprising.

01:10:33.000 But anyway, I want to, uh... Well, let's fight about the Abraham Accords. 0.85

01:10:37.000 You don't like the Abraham Accords?

01:10:38.000 No, not at all.

01:10:39.000 Why not?

01:10:40.000 Well, first of all, they're not any kind of peace deal.

01:10:43.000 They're economic deals.

01:10:44.000 Yeah, the UAE and Bahrain and Sudan and Morocco, none of them were at war with Israel.

01:10:50.000 U.A.E.

01:10:52.000 and Sudan declared war on Israel in 1967, but didn't send any troops, so these aren't really peace deals.

01:10:59.000 What these are is sell out the Palestinians on the American taxpayers' dime deals. 0.91

01:11:06.000 But weren't you saying before that the trade deals with China would be beneficial and help keep things simmered down and prevent conflict?

01:11:13.000 Sure, it's that there just hasn't been any conflict to prevent between Morocco and Israel.

01:11:19.000 And so what's happened is... It's planes flying over Israel and flying over these countries to and from.

01:11:24.000 I mean, it's normalizing economics.

01:11:27.000 It's like the first step towards stabilizing the region.

01:11:29.000 Yeah, but you had to buy a bunch of F-35s for the UAE in order to get them to do it.

01:11:34.000 And the real purpose of it is not generating peace.

01:11:38.000 And these guys have all been working together with the Israelis all along anyway, unofficially.

01:11:43.000 What it really is, is they're selling out the Palestinians.

01:11:45.000 Because the Palestinian, the deal had always been that these Arab states would not normalize relations with Israel until they gave the Palestinians an independent state or equal rights within Israel. 0.75

01:11:57.000 And they didn't do that.

01:11:59.000 And then what happened was Jared Kushner went over there and said, what's your price?

01:12:02.000 I have the American people's money in my pocket.

01:12:05.000 I can spend as much of it as I want.

01:12:08.000 So what will it cost, Tim, for you to sell out the Palestinians?

01:12:13.000 And they said, well, we'll take some F-35s and we'll take some more of your tax money and whatever.

01:12:18.000 Why should I care about Palestine? 1.00

01:12:20.000 Well, Mohammed Atta crashed Flight 11 into the North Tower as revenge for what the Israelis were doing in Palestine and in Lebanon, which took this whole damn terror war off. 0.79

01:12:30.000 It's an argument for us to not be involved. 0.52

01:12:31.000 It's an argument for us absolutely to not be involved, but the thing is we are involved.

01:12:35.000 The U.S.

01:12:36.000 backs everything that the Israelis do, and always have. 1.00

01:12:39.000 I, I, you know, I, I mentioned this when, you know, Cassandra came on the show, uh, came on the show, Cassandra Fairbank, she's very anti-war, and she was like, you're gonna hear a lot of propaganda about why China's doing this, that, or otherwise, and we should not go to war, it's none of our business.

01:12:50.000 And I'm like, you know, it's, I, I don't really have an argument for that, it's like, are we gonna get involved in every single conflict?

01:12:56.000 So for me, it's like, what can we do to remove ourselves from these situations to a greater degree?

01:13:02.000 As soon as Biden gets in, the funding for both sides to various degrees resumes and conflict lights back up.

01:13:09.000 And that's good for imperialism and for the United States. 0.94

01:13:12.000 It's an excuse now to put more military into the Middle East.

01:13:16.000 Oh, no, it's destabilizing.

01:13:17.000 Oh, there's war and conflict.

01:13:18.000 Instead, we should just be like, sure, maybe it costs money.

01:13:20.000 Maybe we provided weapons and stuff.

01:13:24.000 I don't know the answers, man.

01:13:25.000 I just know under Trump, we were closer to getting out of these wars.

01:13:29.000 No new wars.

01:13:30.000 And Trump actually trying to pull troops out.

01:13:32.000 And it was the establishment cronies lying to the American people about the troops in Syria and trying to stop this from happening.

01:13:38.000 So I look at it like trade normalization, peace deals, recognition of Israel.

01:13:44.000 The less conflict, the better.

01:13:46.000 And get our troops out and be done with it.

01:13:48.000 I think you're conflating separate things together.

01:13:50.000 Him trying to get out of Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan is one thing.

01:13:54.000 His Israel policy was absolutely horrible and made everything that much worse.

01:13:59.000 He recognized Israel's absolutely illegal seizure of the Golan Heights and their illegal annexation of it in 1981 and said, just on a whim, I recognize it officially now, it's fine. 0.97

01:14:10.000 Then he moved the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which is an important symbolic move, meaning that America now recognizes all of Jerusalem as a single unified city under Jewish control, when the law says that East Jerusalem is illegally occupied by the Israelis.

01:14:30.000 And Trump just said, well, screw that.

01:14:32.000 And what that did was it negated even the possibility of there being an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital.

01:14:39.000 And it also raises the very important question of whether Jewish extremists are going to destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque and rebuild the Third Temple and start sacrificing animals and start World War III.

01:14:50.000 I think Trump didn't care at all about any of it.

01:14:53.000 Well, he cared about Sheldon Adelson giving him money for the Republican Party.

01:14:56.000 But Sheldon Adelson gave him what?

01:14:59.000 Like $50 million?

01:15:00.000 That's Trump change to Donald Trump. 0.99

01:15:02.000 He could have paid for his own entire re-election and the entire Republican Party's re-election and told Sheldon Adelson to go to hell.

01:15:09.000 He said it was a mistake for him to hire John Bolton.

01:15:12.000 John Bolton called him from Sheldon Adelson's office in Las Vegas and said, guess where I am right now?

01:15:18.000 I want a job.

01:15:19.000 And Trump gave him the job.

01:15:20.000 He should have told him to Absolutely.

01:15:22.000 Absolutely.

01:15:23.000 Who's Sheldon Adelson?

01:15:24.000 Well, he's dead now, thank goodness, but he was an extremely important mega-donor and

01:15:30.000 hardcore Zionist in America.

01:15:31.000 He said his only regret was that he joined the U.S. Army instead of the IDF.

01:15:35.000 He said he's the one who publicly said that Obama should drop a nuke outside of Tehran

01:15:40.000 as a warning, and if they don't obey after that, he ought to nuke the capital city. 0.96

01:15:44.000 And he was a total nut.

01:15:46.000 And John Bolton was the guy who said, this time next year we'll be celebrating in Tehran. 0.74

01:15:49.000 So the dude wanted to just invade, and people don't understand, you can't... Iran is not some tiny, you know, country.

01:15:55.000 People don't understand the geographics.

01:15:59.000 I don't have all the answers.

01:16:02.000 I don't know everything about all these conflicts.

01:16:05.000 Well, take a look at what they did with Morocco for this Abraham Accord. 0.84

01:16:08.000 They call them all the Abraham Accords. 0.98

01:16:10.000 I think it's originally only Bahrain and UAE, but then you lump in Sudan and Morocco.

01:16:15.000 Well, Morocco has been illegal occupying the northern part of Western Sahara for like 20 years, and Trump went, eh, go ahead, you can have it.

01:16:23.000 So this is the liberal rules-based world order that America is supposedly enforcing.

01:16:29.000 But the rules don't apply to us.

01:16:31.000 They don't apply to our friends.

01:16:33.000 We can do whatever we want.

01:16:34.000 The Israelis are in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention by transferring their civilian population into occupied territory.

01:16:41.000 Oh well, what's the Geneva Convention?

01:16:42.000 So this is the problem.

01:16:44.000 Then should the United States just said, we're done with all of it, we're out, bye bye, have a nice day.

01:16:49.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:16:49.000 And it seems like- I'm sorry for backing these criminals against these helpless civilians, this population that has been occupied.

01:16:57.000 for 54 years, longer than the Soviets occupied Eastern Europe.

01:17:00.000 And Trump doesn't care about those other countries.

01:17:03.000 That's right.

01:17:03.000 So there's no going to Trump and being like, all he cares about is America.

01:17:07.000 All he wants is the border secured and factories back in America to make America great.

01:17:11.000 And so when you say, yeah, but these people, I don't know or care about any of that.

01:17:15.000 Sign the deal, get it done and get us out of there.

01:17:17.000 We're out of it.

01:17:18.000 No new wars.

01:17:19.000 Trying to withdraw our troops and they lied to keep them in place.

01:17:23.000 True, but he also deliberately escalated the war in Afghanistan.

01:17:27.000 He deliberately escalated the war in Syria until they finished Iraq War 3 against the Islamic State there, but escalated the war in Somalia.

01:17:36.000 And he took, wherever there's the war in Yemen and the war in Somalia, he made official areas of active hostilities, which under the law means that now the military and the CIA can kill far more people than in more restrictive circumstances where it's covert action only.

01:17:54.000 Increase in drone strikes.

01:17:55.000 Right.

01:17:55.000 Massive increase in airstrikes, drones and planes in Afghanistan and Somalia and Yemen.

01:18:01.000 And he delegated the battlefield authority for the right to call in a strike as far down the chain of command as he possibly could.

01:18:09.000 Because when he came in, there were all these checkboxes that Obama and his lawyers had added, and they killed tens of thousands of people with their drone war, but they had added all these bureaucratic checkboxes.

01:18:20.000 But Trump was raised on the myth of Vietnam, and H.W.

01:18:23.000 Bush talked about this during Iraq War One as well as, this was, I don't know if you're familiar with this, but this was a big deal when I was growing up, that Lyndon Johnson tied the hands of the generals behind their back.

01:18:33.000 nitpicking and pouring over the map in the White House and picking the targets himself and controlling the policy.

01:18:40.000 And if he hadn't done that, then the generals would have just done the right thing.

01:18:44.000 So Trump said, that's never going to happen to me.

01:18:47.000 No one is ever going to say that I didn't let the military have carte blanche to do whatever they think is right in whatever area.

01:18:55.000 And so when he came in, he said, I want out of Afghanistan.

01:18:57.000 It was in March of 2017.

01:19:01.000 when they were doing a review and trying to get him to push to escalate and he

01:19:05.000 said I hereby order all American troops out of Afghanistan and out of South

01:19:09.000 Korea this is in the newest Bob Woodward book rage Trump said this Trump said

01:19:13.000 this in in in three months into three months into power two months into power

01:19:17.000 and James Mattis the Secretary of Defense that he hired yep said belay

01:19:22.000 that order yep we're not leaving Afghanistan we're not leaving Korea and

01:19:26.000 president said and then it was three months later Trump announced he was

01:19:26.000 John Bolton, obviously.

01:19:29.000 sending another 10,000 men to Afghanistan and massively escalating

01:19:32.000 the air war. Absolutely was one of the biggest problems with Trump is that he

01:19:36.000 hired a bunch of morons and didn't fire the other morons. 1.00

01:19:39.000 John Bolton right obviously and yes I think the problem was clearly it sounds 1.00

01:19:45.000 like Trump just said we I want out the American people want out.

01:19:48.000 But he was surrounded by people that he should not have trusted.

01:19:51.000 And he gave them power.

01:19:52.000 Including Bannon, right?

01:19:53.000 Including his own people.

01:19:54.000 He obviously could not trust McMaster and Mattis, but he couldn't trust Bannon either.

01:20:01.000 I forget if this is in Fire and Fury or Fear by Woodward, one or the other of those.

01:20:05.000 I don't necessarily trust the guy, but... Well, no, but it's horse's mouth stuff, so it's like, when Mattis tells Woodward, and that's when I said, don't do what the president said, you can pretty much believe that, you know what I mean?

01:20:17.000 Is that treason?

01:20:19.000 Well, certainly it's criminal insubordination.

01:20:21.000 I don't know exactly which law in the Military Code of Uniform Justice. 1.00

01:20:25.000 Trump hired too many morons. 1.00

01:20:27.000 But see, Bannon made the deal with Mattis that, listen, we'll shut up about Afghanistan if you guys promise to get worse on China. 1.00

01:20:36.000 And then Mattis goes, well, sure, we wanted to build up against China anyway.

01:20:40.000 And in exchange for that, you're going to shut up about Afghanistan?

01:20:43.000 Deal.

01:20:44.000 And so it was Bannon that sold out Trump on Afghanistan just three months into the thing.

01:20:49.000 And then they got rid of him by, what, July?

01:20:52.000 And then in August they announced the big escalation.

01:20:54.000 And then, you know, there's a story in the Post, this also comes from Mattis straight out of the horse's mouth, that in the Washington Post that Trump complained, why are we in Somalia?

01:21:03.000 I don't even want to be in Somalia.

01:21:04.000 Where is Somalia?

01:21:06.000 What are we doing in Somalia?

01:21:08.000 And James Mattis told this ridiculous lie that, well, we're trying to prevent a Times Square attack.

01:21:13.000 Well, the Times Square attack in 2010 was direct retaliation for the drone war in Pakistan.

01:21:19.000 Had nothing to do with the Somali and drone strikes didn't prevent it.

01:21:23.000 Drone strikes caused it.

01:21:25.000 But then, but wait, it gets better.

01:21:25.000 Okay.

01:21:27.000 And then Trump said, no, but I don't care.

01:21:29.000 I don't want to be there.

01:21:30.000 I don't understand why we have to be there.

01:21:32.000 And Mattis told Trump quote, You have no choice.

01:21:37.000 And then what did Trump do?

01:21:38.000 He obeyed the Secretary of Defense.

01:21:42.000 Instead of saying, actually, I do have a choice.

01:21:45.000 You're the one who doesn't have a choice, Mr. Secretary.

01:21:48.000 He said, okay, fine, escalate the war. 0.97

01:21:50.000 What do I care if they kill another couple of 10,000 Somalis? 1.00

01:21:54.000 Trump should have, for one, fired a lot of morons, not hired a lot of morons, and he should have just done... Why didn't he just go on public TV and say, this is the plan, we're doing it? 1.00

01:22:04.000 Look, I mean, the truth is, it's because he doesn't read. 1.00

01:22:06.000 He doesn't know anything.

01:22:07.000 If he knew anything at all, Tim, he would have gone to Cato, and he would have gone to the national interest, and he would have said, I want all of the most credentialed anti-war right-wingers that you guys can line up for me, let's do this.

01:22:18.000 Think about how close we were.

01:22:21.000 Honestly, if Trump in the first three months says, out, out, out, but he was too busy surrounding himself by bad people and special interests. 0.99

01:22:28.000 And he was too busy complaining about his crowd size at his inauguration and every other stupid thing that didn't matter at all. 0.97

01:22:34.000 And selling weapons to Saudi Arabia to fund the Yemen genocide, basically. 0.99

01:22:39.000 Yeah, we'll get to Yemen in a minute.

01:22:40.000 But I mean, when he came in, Bannon said, here's our deal, OK?

01:22:43.000 We want To end all the free trade agreements, we want to halt immigration from Mexico, and we want to end all the wars. 1.00

01:22:52.000 Well guess what?

01:22:53.000 Trump has total power over one of those issues.

01:22:56.000 The wars, right?

01:22:58.000 And that's all he had to do was say, I really mean this.

01:23:01.000 I'm really sticking with this.

01:23:03.000 We are ending these wars.

01:23:04.000 And if he'd done that, it also would have been absolutely brilliant politics throwing a nuclear hand grenade into the Democratic Party and making the liberals attack him from the right for ending wars and convincing the leftists that they never hated liberals so much.

01:23:20.000 They did that.

01:23:21.000 The media absolutely did that.

01:23:23.000 They were claiming that Trump was, you know, leaving was irresponsible and it was a gift to these dictators and to ISIS, and clearly trying to negotiate peace was just him appeasing dictators and all that stuff.

01:23:32.000 Appeasing Putin.

01:23:34.000 You know what?

01:23:35.000 I love this one.

01:23:35.000 You can check this in the Washington Post, everybody.

01:23:37.000 Go check in the Washington Post, everybody.

01:23:40.000 In June, it was June or July of 2017, Trump ordered an end to the CIA program backing the al-Qaeda terrorists, the al-Nusra Front, a.k.a.

01:23:50.000 Hayat Tahrir al-Sham in Syria.

01:23:52.000 And the Washington Post headline reads, in move sure to please Vladimir Putin, Trump orders end of covert action program in Syria.

01:24:03.000 So they accuse him of treason.

01:24:05.000 For stopping a program of arming Al-Qaeda, terrorists, suicide bomber, head chopper, murderers. 0.55

01:24:11.000 We've definitely established in this episode, don't trust the media.

01:24:16.000 Don't trust them, man.

01:24:17.000 Especially not the Washington Post.

01:24:19.000 I do have to do a hard segue because we went a little long on this one.

01:24:22.000 We got to talk about Ian's favorite subject.

01:24:23.000 Yes.

01:24:24.000 So this might be the probably the scariest story I've ever seen, the one that truly freaks me out the most.

01:24:31.000 Wokeness at Fed's regional banks puts central bank independence at risk.

01:24:36.000 Fed is supposed to operate free from political influence.

01:24:40.000 Okay, okay.

01:24:41.000 I love it whenever anybody types that with a straight face.

01:24:44.000 Oh, the Federal Reserve?

01:24:45.000 Yeah, no, they don't engage in politics at all.

01:24:47.000 Right, right, right.

01:24:48.000 Why would they?

01:24:49.000 So, they say, Federal Reserve Banks in Atlanta, Boston, Minneapolis recently dedicated resources to social policy, reflecting the political leaning of officials who are neither elected nor confirmed by the Senate.

01:25:00.000 The Federal Reserve's mission statement mandates the central bank to achieve maximum employment and stable prices while being free from political influence.

01:25:08.000 Experience has shown that countries with independent central banks achieve better outcomes.

01:25:12.000 Pursuing a highly politicized social agenda unrelated to monetary policy is inflicting reputational damage on the Minneapolis, Atlanta, and Boston Fed banks and the Federal Reserve as a whole.

01:25:23.000 The first thing I'm scared of, but hold on there's some good news here, is that The Fed is the machine by which they control things and extract resources.

01:25:31.000 Getting woke just means creepy dogmatic authoritarianism.

01:25:32.000 taxes on people, printing money, borrowing money, and then your savings become worthless

01:25:36.000 and then they can use it to fund war and other things like that.

01:25:38.000 Getting woke just means creepy dogmatic authoritarianism.

01:25:41.000 However, it is also instability.

01:25:45.000 Wokeness is meritless.

01:25:47.000 It is about instituting policy on the basis of what feels good in our emotions and our ideology as opposed to what works.

01:25:55.000 So it's kind of like, well, we've seen wokeness destroy institutions, right? 0.99

01:26:00.000 We say, get woke, go broke.

01:26:02.000 So it may be scary what happens when the Federal Reserve starts instituting policy at a very massive level, but at the same time, what if the Fed gets woke and goes broke?

01:26:14.000 I don't know if the Federal Reserve Board could be any worse at their job, frankly.

01:26:20.000 And these guys have caused nothing but booms and busts and catastrophes, artificial booms and very real busts.

01:26:28.000 I mean, in the 1980s.

01:26:32.000 I'll never forget that in Northwest Austin, they had built entire neighborhoods and entire shopping malls, but it was just the roads and the foundations.

01:26:43.000 And then it stayed like that for 10 years.

01:26:45.000 It was another 10 years before they built Lake Line Mall.

01:26:48.000 And we used to just go out there and camp and get drunk.

01:26:50.000 And skate.

01:26:52.000 Dude, I love it when you find those old slabs. 1.00

01:26:55.000 Just like pre-constructed buildings that are left for a long time and just play around.

01:26:58.000 And it was just like that for something like 10 years.

01:27:00.000 And then we all lived through the dot-com massive crash at the end of the Bill Clinton years, where instead of cashing our peace dividend and bringing the troops home, instead they printed a bunch of money, inflated the money supply.

01:27:12.000 See, here's the thing about inflation, too, is, as you say, It's hidden taxation, right?

01:27:18.000 It's theft.

01:27:18.000 It's the same reason it's against the law for you and I to counterfeit money.

01:27:21.000 It's because we're stealing the value of our neighbor's dollars if we do that.

01:27:25.000 But that's not the worst of it.

01:27:26.000 The worst of it is that you get massive price inflation in certain sectors like housing, stocks, fuel.

01:27:36.000 That's what's happening again right now.

01:27:38.000 So after the dot-com crash, Of 2000, they kept inflating housing, and they just poured more and more and more money into housing to prevent that recession from really kicking in.

01:27:49.000 And then we had the massive crash of 08 that brought the whole dang world down with it. 1.00

01:27:54.000 Then, what'd they do?

01:27:55.000 QE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and just did nothing but expand the money supply, inflate, inflate, inflate, and just as Rothbard teaches, They always try to somehow like prick the bubble and slowly let the air out.

01:28:08.000 But it's always a crash.

01:28:09.000 And in fact, though, what happened this time was we were due for a crash last year, this year, sometime here real soon.

01:28:15.000 But what happened was the governors, Donald Trump and the governors, did it for us and forced the recession, not through high interest rates, but just by forcing the clampdown, the lockdown on the entire economy.

01:28:25.000 And so that meant all kinds of bad debts were being cancelled off of bank books, right?

01:28:29.000 It's massively deflationary to have, in other words, it was a deliberately imposed depression or recession on the economy.

01:28:38.000 So then where does that leave us right now?

01:28:40.000 With the lockdowns just being lifted, a massive increase in the money supply.

01:28:45.000 That means we're right back where we were in the year 2000-2001, right back where we were in the year 2009, just at the start of the next big bubble.

01:28:53.000 So we're good!

01:28:54.000 So let's ride the wave!

01:28:56.000 We are, yeah.

01:28:56.000 That's right.

01:28:57.000 Unless you're trying to afford a place to live and you can't, which is why I don't I don't know about around here, but in Austin, Texas, there has never been a homeless crisis like there is right now.

01:29:08.000 And in California, it's insane.

01:29:11.000 Oh, it's just unbelievable.

01:29:12.000 And there's people living in tents up and down the side of the road everywhere.

01:29:16.000 Price inflation in housing.

01:29:18.000 The rents and the mortgages have gone through the roof.

01:29:21.000 Now add in Biden offering up more stimulus and more tax credits and more money for not working.

01:29:26.000 And what's happening, we see these stories where fast food restaurants are saying, you know, $500 bonus!

01:29:32.000 Come take the job!

01:29:32.000 $1,000 bonus!

01:29:34.000 And people still won't do it.

01:29:35.000 I see from a lot of leftists, they're like, haha, surprise surprise, nobody wants to work at fast food unless they're getting paid a living wage.

01:29:41.000 No, dude.

01:29:42.000 You're getting paid $16 an hour to not work.

01:29:45.000 Which means...

01:29:46.000 I don't gotta do anything.

01:29:47.000 Why would I take $16 an hour now to work when I'm already getting to not work?

01:29:51.000 Plus the cost of living keeps going up.

01:29:54.000 $15 an hour ain't what it used to be.

01:29:55.000 But this is the problem.

01:29:56.000 That's a surface level problem.

01:29:59.000 What people don't see is the same problems affecting steel mills.

01:30:02.000 The same problem is affecting Uh, mining raw materials.

01:30:07.000 So while we can laugh that you can't buy your Popeye's chicken sandwich because nobody wants to work there, has anyone actually looked at the raw materials that aren't getting produced because the same problem is happening?

01:30:16.000 Or the farming that's not getting done because the same problem is happening?

01:30:19.000 You got a farmer and he's like, I need someone to work the fields, to collect the crops, to pick the certain vegetables, and it's like...

01:30:25.000 I can pay 20 bucks an hour.

01:30:25.000 How much you gonna pay?

01:30:27.000 Yeah, I get 16 for nothing, so no thank you, I won't do it.

01:30:30.000 You go to your store, you can't find bacon anymore.

01:30:30.000 Guess what?

01:30:32.000 You go to your store, you can't find vegetables.

01:30:33.000 It's not just fast food, it's hitting everything.

01:30:36.000 And it's been happening since last year, because I've mentioned this several times.

01:30:39.000 I go on Amazon, I buy a tablet.

01:30:41.000 Or I put a tablet in my cart.

01:30:43.000 I forgot.

01:30:43.000 I didn't buy it.

01:30:45.000 And then a day or two later, I get a notification.

01:30:47.000 The price has increased in this product.

01:30:48.000 It went up like 150 bucks.

01:30:50.000 That's how—it's fast.

01:30:52.000 And, you know, we can talk about the Fed, the printing and all this stuff, but then you have all this spending.

01:30:58.000 I think we're going to get hit real bad.

01:31:00.000 And I think Bitcoin is going to go through the roof by the end of the year.

01:31:03.000 Don't look at me, I'm not a financial expert.

01:31:05.000 I just look at what Max Keiser's talking about.

01:31:07.000 The guy's been right, you know, a lot.

01:31:09.000 So when you combine all of these things.

01:31:11.000 So Max Keiser comes out and he's like, Bitcoin is going to be, his price point is 220 by the end of the year.

01:31:16.000 Maybe not.

01:31:17.000 But Max has been right and I've listened to him in the past.

01:31:17.000 I don't know.

01:31:19.000 I'd be very wealthy.

01:31:20.000 But then I see what he's saying.

01:31:22.000 Then I look at the things we're seeing.

01:31:24.000 This Fed getting woke thing. 0.80

01:31:26.000 Wokeness is not merit, which means you're gonna have people who can't do the job that's already a ridiculous job, the Fed.

01:31:32.000 Which means potential destabilization on whatever it is they're trying to do in the first place is probably gonna get worse.

01:31:37.000 Then you have the mass printing of money, you have no one wanting to work.

01:31:40.000 Seems to me like Bitcoin's gonna skyrocket by the end of the year.

01:31:43.000 Because the... I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

01:31:45.000 Bitcoin's not going to skyrocket, the dollar is going to collapse.

01:31:48.000 That's a better way to put it.

01:31:49.000 Yeah, of course.

01:31:50.000 I think we need to repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

01:31:52.000 Yeah, but we need a new a new system in place like to withdraw Federal Reserve 0.93

01:31:58.000 notes and then give you a cryptocurrency in response.

01:32:00.000 Give people two years to turn in all their Federal Reserve notes and then just

01:32:04.000 make them all worth nil after that.

01:32:07.000 So don't hoard your money.

01:32:08.000 Turn it in. Let's start a new economy.

01:32:09.000 Obviously, they're going to track it if it's a if it's a crypto on the block

01:32:13.000 chain. So every move you make, I don't know how they'll hide money off offshore

01:32:17.000 in Panama if it's a crypto.

01:32:19.000 Maybe they can't, maybe that's the point, or maybe it's really...

01:32:22.000 Well, they actually have different kinds of cryptos, too, that really do provide a lot better security, I think.

01:32:28.000 Like Monero?

01:32:28.000 Monero you can't track, I think Zcash you can't track.

01:32:31.000 No, no, no, Zcash has, I think I could be wrong about this, but it has shadowed, shadow accounts and visible accounts, so it works both ways.

01:32:38.000 You can choose to, like a maxed account or a non.

01:32:41.000 That's really interesting, actually.

01:32:42.000 And look, this is what Frederick Hayek said, was rather than having... I think Murray Rothbard wanted 100%, you know, by law, 100% gold reserve standard.

01:32:51.000 And Hayek just said, let there be competing currencies.

01:32:54.000 I think this is the Ron Paul position.

01:32:55.000 Just what you do is you have to repeal the legal tender laws and you have to repeal the taxes on different alternative currencies, right?

01:33:03.000 Because if you're taxing capital gains on silver and bitcoins and everything, that makes it impossible to use as a currency, really.

01:33:10.000 Especially if you inflate the dollar and cause the cost of silver to go up double and then tax them on that increase, even though the value didn't increase.

01:33:21.000 They just printed twice the amount of money, so it looks like it.

01:33:24.000 And then you lose a fourth of your money because they printed twice as much.

01:33:29.000 And they've been printing like crazy.

01:33:32.000 I have to tell you the bad news is I talked with Robert Higgs, and this conversation is probably 10 years old now or more, but Robert Higgs is the great libertarian economist that wrote Crisis and Leviathan, and he's like, listen man, forget the petrodollar.

01:33:47.000 Forget, you know, any of the different kind of answers for why people are so dependent on the dollar.

01:33:53.000 They're dependent on the dollar because they have been.

01:33:55.000 The dollar's been the world reserve currency since the end of World War II and it's going to stay that way for a very long time because what it would take to stop that would be for every central banker in the world to wake up one day and realize that all those hundred dollar bills in their bank vault are worth nothing and try to panic and sell them all at the same time.

01:34:16.000 But they're all painted into a corner.

01:34:18.000 If any of them ever do that, then they're the one precipitating the crisis and making it worse, and they're not going to be able to get rid of the money before they lose it.

01:34:27.000 But hold on, hold on.

01:34:28.000 What if all of these bankers are sitting there with $100 in their bank account, and then they're like, I don't want to be the one to sell because it'll cause my money to start losing value, so I won't be able to sell fast enough.

01:34:38.000 And then Joe Biden yells out, churning out a shabbit of pressure and starts printing money like crazy.

01:34:43.000 Then they're going to be like, well, he's already doing it, so dump the dollar.

01:34:46.000 People are going to want to get out before it hits because he's already tanking it.

01:34:49.000 It could happen.

01:34:50.000 But then there's also the question of American military power. 0.97

01:34:53.000 And are you going to sell those hundred dollar bills in your vault if we're going to kill you if you try it?

01:34:56.000 Wasn't it, you know, we had Gaddafi. 0.81

01:34:59.000 What did he want to trade?

01:35:00.000 In dinars?

01:35:01.000 Yeah, he wanted to, essentially, they still use the French franc in the formerly French colonies of Africa.

01:35:07.000 And even though the French are on the euro, they still use the French franc.

01:35:10.000 And then he wanted to undermine that by switching to a gold-backed dinar.

01:35:13.000 Yeah, and then he died!

01:35:14.000 It's weird how that happens, right?

01:35:16.000 I'm not really sure how much evidence there is that that was really the French's worry.

01:35:22.000 I think Sarkozy was really worried that it was embarrassing to him that he had stood by Ben Ali in Tunisia all the way up until he was forced to flee at the very start of the Arab Spring.

01:35:36.000 And so he had a public relations problem and he was going to take it out on Gaddafi.

01:35:40.000 And then Gaddafi had also spent a bunch of money on Sarkozy's election campaign.

01:35:45.000 So then he had the same problem John McCain and Joe Lieberman had with Gaddafi was they had sucked up to him and been too nice to him recently.

01:35:52.000 And so now that he was a hate figure again, they had to turn on him again.

01:35:55.000 Well, we can thank the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton for absolutely destroying North Africa.

01:36:00.000 Absolutely right.

01:36:01.000 And look, there was just a piece the other day about the ISIS Sharia Islamist state in northern Mali, which is a direct consequence of the war in Libya.

01:36:09.000 It's got a whole chapter in the book.

01:36:11.000 Have you studied Sidney Blumenthal much?

01:36:14.000 He basically sent emails to Hillary Clinton.

01:36:16.000 This is part of her email scandal.

01:36:17.000 She tried to delete as much as possible, but you can see in Podesta's email.

01:36:20.000 You can look them up.

01:36:21.000 Sidney Blumenthal, John Podesta, Osprey Global Solutions, which was Sidney's company that he wanted.

01:36:28.000 It's an arms running company.

01:36:29.000 I think the Blumenthal emails actually were released by the State Department.

01:36:32.000 I think those were not the ones that were leaked in the DNC leak and the Podesta leak.

01:36:37.000 They were the State Department.

01:36:38.000 Jason Leopold sued under the Freedom of Information Act and they are very incriminating.

01:36:43.000 Yeah.

01:36:43.000 I mean he warns her that they're rounding up and murdering blacks just for being black on the false accusation that they're mercenaries and this is in like April.

01:36:50.000 They kept the war going another eight months after that. 0.92

01:36:53.000 They could have called it off at any time.

01:36:54.000 Obama Forbade Hillary working at all with Sidney Blumenthal. I

01:36:57.000 thought he was bad news and Hillary was like, okay And then just kept working with him anyway, and he would

01:37:01.000 send her battle tactics emails like you need to invade Libya when we get there 0.71

01:37:06.000 We'll set up my company Osprey global solutions to fund the the revolutionaries

01:37:12.000 You know, basically the American backed new military Hillary's like, okay, she just passes it on to her military 1.00

01:37:17.000 advisor. That's that's the game It's disgusting. It's it's 0.93

01:37:20.000 It's called arms running, war profiteering.

01:37:24.000 It's illegal, as far as I know.

01:37:26.000 Although maybe it's not illegal, I don't know.

01:37:28.000 Can I be a war profiteer?

01:37:30.000 Hold on, we'll bring it back before we go to Super Chats.

01:37:33.000 This is what the woke people realized.

01:37:35.000 There's no truth but power.

01:37:36.000 Oh, it's illegal?

01:37:37.000 Well, they control the courts, so what does it matter anymore?

01:37:39.000 Hillary Clinton, like she's gonna go to jail for anything. 1.00

01:37:42.000 Well, let's jump to Super Chats, my friends, if you haven't already.

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01:37:50.000 And thank you to everybody and all the Super Chats for your opinions.

01:37:54.000 Go to TimCast.com, become a member, because we're going to have a members-only segment coming up after the show at TimCast.com, where we say the things that YouTube doesn't like us saying, and we swear a whole lot.

01:38:03.000 But let's read what we got here.

01:38:05.000 1976 says, for Tim and Ian and anyone else that writes songs, what is your process for lyrics?

01:38:11.000 Here's what I do.

01:38:13.000 I'll make some riffs, I'll jam on the guitar, and then whatever the music sounds like in terms of feel, I envision in my mind, like a world, I imagine a scenario, and then I write a story, I visualize a story, and then I write the words to describe what that story is.

01:38:31.000 I turn on a video camera and then I start writing, playing chords together.

01:38:31.000 That's how I do it.

01:38:36.000 And then I just start saying whatever comes out.

01:38:38.000 I just start stream of consciousness riffing and I'll go back and watch the video and then write down what I said.

01:38:44.000 And that's usually where the lyrics come from.

01:38:47.000 Do you write music?

01:38:48.000 No, man, I have no musical talent whatsoever.

01:38:50.000 But you can skateboard.

01:38:51.000 I can skateboard.

01:38:52.000 Right on.

01:38:53.000 We're gonna skateboard right after this show.

01:38:55.000 We are.

01:38:55.000 You and I, we're gonna go have fun in that.

01:38:56.000 I'm gonna see you hit up the six foot. 1.00

01:38:58.000 That's gonna be fun, dude.

01:38:59.000 All right, Jordan Jones says, saw your firearm video.

01:39:01.000 Righteous bro, hear me out.

01:39:02.000 Less head movement by bringing the optic to your eye and can't your rifle a little bit.

01:39:08.000 You may need to re-zero a bit, but it's good training.

01:39:12.000 Right on.

01:39:13.000 You know, we fired a .50 BMG, Barrett M82.

01:39:16.000 It was good fun.

01:39:18.000 We went to the range, had a great time.

01:39:20.000 Trent Lamellino says, Scott the man. Dave Smith for president.

01:39:24.000 Oh yeah, we didn't talk about Dave much on the show tonight.

01:39:26.000 You want to talk about Dave?

01:39:27.000 Is it going to be a Smith-Horton ticket?

01:39:29.000 No, it is not.

01:39:32.000 But I will be backing up my man the whole time.

01:39:34.000 Smith-Gabbard, maybe, if Tulsi can get involved.

01:39:34.000 I promise that.

01:39:36.000 Tulsi's great.

01:39:37.000 I love Tulsi.

01:39:38.000 Incredible military mind.

01:39:38.000 She's awesome.

01:39:40.000 She's no libertarian, though.

01:39:41.000 No, she's definitely not.

01:39:42.000 I know I want to bring all these people together.

01:39:43.000 It doesn't matter what party we call it, but... I sure would like to see her run in the primary again. 0.98

01:39:48.000 Yeah, that was great.

01:39:49.000 On the Democrat side.

01:39:50.000 When she just, like, mic-dropped Kamala Harris. 0.56

01:39:53.000 Oh, man, that was beautiful.

01:39:55.000 And I really think they wanted Kamala to be president.

01:39:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:58.000 Oh, so badly.

01:39:59.000 You saw it in the polls, like Kamala Harris and then Tulsi Gabbard.

01:40:02.000 And remember what it was she said.

01:40:04.000 She goes, this is a lady who locked people up by the thousands for smoking pot. 1.00

01:40:08.000 And then when she was asked about it, she laughed.

01:40:11.000 And this is a lady who hid evidence That a guy on death row was innocent and tried to keep him on death row until finally the courts just intervened and forced her to give up.

01:40:25.000 Why'd she hide it?

01:40:27.000 Uh, you know, I have no idea.

01:40:28.000 To protect her underling who had prosecuted the guy, I guess?

01:40:32.000 And then, so this is just nothing but conspiracy to murder somebody, right?

01:40:35.000 Like, how do you recover from that?

01:40:37.000 And Tulsi Gabbard called her out for it and she goes, Yeah, you got me.

01:40:41.000 I did do that.

01:40:42.000 Tulsi Gabbard called out Kamala Harris keeping people in prison beyond their sentences to use as slave labor to put out fires in California.

01:40:49.000 That lady is awful. 1.00

01:40:51.000 And then after the debate was over, she just stood there like an idiot. 1.00

01:40:53.000 Then after the debate was over, she goes, oh yeah, well you love Bashar al-Assad. 1.00

01:40:58.000 Such trash. 0.99

01:40:59.000 And then the point went to Kamala Harris, according to TV. 0.99

01:41:02.000 Not according to me.

01:41:02.000 Oh yeah.

01:41:03.000 They're like, oh, she got her.

01:41:05.000 Yeah, big one.

01:41:06.000 All right, Adam Baker says, hey Tim, took your advice and started to make good decisions and work hard and just got financially stable.

01:41:11.000 Working on a stand-up special to send you for your streaming service.

01:41:14.000 Keep fighting the good fight, guys.

01:41:16.000 Appreciate it, man.

01:41:17.000 Thank you.

01:41:18.000 I want to mention something because there was a thread by Taylor Lorenz of the New York Times about the housing boom.

01:41:26.000 And she was referencing a TikTok meme where they were explaining how housing makes no sense.

01:41:32.000 So this guy goes, he's like, I have an apple, I'd like to sell it.

01:41:35.000 And then a guy goes, can I see your apple?

01:41:36.000 And he goes, no, it's an apple, you know what it is, taking all bids.

01:41:38.000 And he's like, no one's gonna wanna buy your apple if you can't.

01:41:41.000 And then a guy goes, $5.

01:41:42.000 And then some guy goes, $20.

01:41:43.000 And then one guy walks in, he's like, $100.

01:41:45.000 I'm from California, it's the cheapest apple I've ever seen.

01:41:48.000 It's like a funny joke.

01:41:50.000 So Taylor points out, she's like, who has all of this money sitting around to just buy a house like this?

01:41:56.000 And of course, being from the New York Times, a lot of the responses were from the traditional establishment left liberal perspective, where it's like, well, it's all rich people and investors who are only able to buy homes.

01:42:06.000 And you'd get a little bit mixed in there where someone's like, I bought a home with like only a few percent down.

01:42:11.000 Yeah, five percent, I think.

01:42:12.000 Yeah.

01:42:13.000 Well, I mean, in some cases, even three percent, depending on, you know, I think veterans can get zero down.

01:42:18.000 But then my response was, you know, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to any of these people who genuinely don't understand.

01:42:25.000 When I got a job at Vice, and Vice was paying me decently to be this correspondent traveling around, I slept on a couch for $300 a month.

01:42:34.000 I lived in New York for $300 a month, sleeping on a couch.

01:42:37.000 It was not particularly comfortable.

01:42:38.000 People would be coming over, and my friend was doing his thing, and I'd wake up at 3 in the morning, and like, again, migraines.

01:42:44.000 But 300 bucks can't be beaten, Williamsburg!

01:42:47.000 And so then all the money Vice is paying me, I just go into the bank.

01:42:49.000 Go into the bank.

01:42:50.000 And then you don't need that much to actually buy a house.

01:42:52.000 Like, several thousand dollars.

01:42:54.000 Like, I think it's like 5k in closing costs, depending on what percentage you're putting down.

01:42:59.000 You can get a house.

01:43:00.000 Young people don't realize this.

01:43:01.000 I've met too many people who are like, my apartment costs three grand.

01:43:05.000 I'm like, have you considered, like, not having a $3,000 apartment?

01:43:09.000 I guess people don't, they can't fathom sleeping on a floor for dirt to save money.

01:43:15.000 They can't fathom sacrificing.

01:43:17.000 They believe that they should have a certain standard.

01:43:20.000 And I can respect that people should have a house and like a bed and like a shower and stuff.

01:43:24.000 But life isn't this like video game where the rules are equal for everybody.

01:43:29.000 You know, life is, it is what it is.

01:43:31.000 Some people live outside.

01:43:33.000 Some people are happy living outside.

01:43:35.000 Some people have parents who pay their bills.

01:43:38.000 And if you want to get ahead, that means you got to save resources.

01:43:40.000 But just wanted to say that.

01:43:41.000 Let's read some more.

01:43:43.000 Ameris45 says, US expat in China.

01:43:45.000 This video made the rounds on WeChat.

01:43:47.000 Any comments were shut down quick.

01:43:49.000 People are terrified to say anything about it here.

01:43:51.000 Cherish and protect free speech.

01:43:53.000 I miss it.

01:43:53.000 First super chat.

01:43:54.000 Hey, appreciate it.

01:43:55.000 What video?

01:43:56.000 This video?

01:43:57.000 Oh.

01:43:57.000 No, the John Cena one.

01:43:58.000 Yeah.

01:43:59.000 We got a bunch of superchats on China.

01:44:03.000 Joel Stein says, normalizing relations with China didn't make them more like us.

01:44:06.000 It's making us more like them.

01:44:08.000 Raise that red fist. 1.00

01:44:09.000 I mean, that's another thing.

01:44:11.000 Like, you know, the Black Lives Matter symbol is the red salute.

01:44:13.000 Yeah.

01:44:14.000 And people like I see people in my own extended family marching around raising the red salute.

01:44:19.000 I'm like, that's that's that's scary.

01:44:20.000 That's creepy ideological stuff.

01:44:22.000 Which, you know, when you mentioned earlier about how the idea was, we send Milton Friedman over there to teach Deng Xiaoping about capitalism, that they'll end up adopting a more of a libertarian social policy as well.

01:44:34.000 And, you know, it's easy to just say, well, that didn't come true.

01:44:38.000 But I always like to start with my blame in Washington, D.C.

01:44:42.000 Ron Paul, huh?

01:44:43.000 to me like if at the end of the Cold War we'd elected Ron Paul in 88 when he ran

01:44:48.000 and we'd elected Harry Brown in 96 to see us through the end of the 20th

01:44:52.000 century and into the 21st and we had renounced world empire and Harry Brown

01:44:57.000 just spent every day giving the world his Statue of Liberty speech not killing

01:45:02.000 them but constantly lecturing them on not being free enough and not doing

01:45:06.000 enough to protect human liberty Now, I think we'd be living in an entirely different world in the Muslim world and in China and everywhere else. 1.00

01:45:13.000 I think the true American creed of individualism and liberty out of our Declaration of Independence would have a lot more purchase.

01:45:21.000 But instead, America is the most corrupt Government on the face of the earth.

01:45:27.000 It's soaking in the blood of something like 2 million dead people from the last 20 years and for nothing.

01:45:34.000 Attacking countries that never attacked us, never threatened us.

01:45:39.000 So if you look at places like, say, Pakistan, where they'll stone you to death for converting to Christianity.

01:45:46.000 Well, we're not really in any position to criticize them for that because you know what's the worst thing about Pakistan? 1.00

01:45:51.000 American drones blowing grandmothers up.

01:45:55.000 Okay, and so, how can we say to them, you guys aren't doing liberty right, when we're not doing liberty right, and we're supposed to be the standard bearers?

01:46:03.000 Do you know what the Mandela effect is?

01:46:05.000 You know what the Mandela effect is, right?

01:46:05.000 Yeah.

01:46:07.000 So, for those that aren't familiar, it started because some people were convinced that they heard news reports that Nelson Mandela died in prison, yet he didn't, and then he was alive, and so people are like, what is this?

01:46:19.000 And so, a lot of people then believe that they've accidentally jumped timelines.

01:46:23.000 Can we just, you know, everybody right now just wish, wish it's possible so we can jump to the timeline where Ron Paul won in 2008?

01:46:31.000 Oh, and how about in 88?

01:46:33.000 To oversee the end of the Cold War.

01:46:35.000 Well, the problem is the timelines are too divergent at that point.

01:46:39.000 Maybe 10 years is a leap.

01:46:40.000 You know what, though?

01:46:41.000 One of the ones that really solidified that whole theory, the Mandela thing, I remember listening to this on Art Bell driving my cab around, and they were like, yeah, you know what?

01:46:49.000 Also, I remember the Soviets went to the moon.

01:46:52.000 I know they did!

01:46:53.000 I remember that, and I know where that came from.

01:46:55.000 That's not an alternative dimension.

01:46:57.000 That's from Superman 2.

01:46:59.000 Where they're on the moon at the beginning and they gotta rush in.

01:47:02.000 And that's really what it likely is, but I want to point out something.

01:47:06.000 Look, I remember the Ron Paul era, and I didn't agree with a lot of his moral positions, but I did agree with him saying no, and leave me alone, and leave everyone to their own devices, and I was like, I'll take the guy who says he's gonna leave me alone.

01:47:21.000 Because we can disagree on everything, but then he agrees to leave me alone.

01:47:24.000 That's great.

01:47:25.000 Dude, we should jump to the timeline when George Washington became the first American president.

01:47:31.000 Because Ben Franklin did not.

01:47:31.000 What?

01:47:33.000 He dropped the ball.

01:47:34.000 Wait, what?

01:47:35.000 George Washington?

01:47:36.000 I think this guy's from another dimension.

01:47:37.000 Yeah, we all think that.

01:47:39.000 Anyway, we should jump to that timeline.

01:47:41.000 All right.

01:47:42.000 Let's read some more. 0.99

01:47:45.000 Nahieg says, God damn it, 2 a.m. 0.97

01:47:47.000 here in Sweden and I see that the legend Scott Horton is on with Tim. 0.97

01:47:51.000 I recently got my copy of Enough already, you guys are the best.

01:47:53.000 Yeah, I got mine as well, but mine's autographed.

01:47:57.000 Everybody show the book to the camera.

01:47:59.000 I'm gonna show it again at the end of the show.

01:48:00.000 That's right.

01:48:02.000 That's every war from Jimmy Carter through the end of Donald Trump.

01:48:05.000 Is it possible to end war, you think, and just live in like a harmonious symbiosis?

01:48:11.000 Mostly.

01:48:13.000 In terms of like a magical utopia where it never breaks out ever again kind of thing?

01:48:16.000 But at the same time, there are many nations in the world that just never even entertain the idea of going to war with each other.

01:48:16.000 No.

01:48:26.000 You know, look at all of Latin America.

01:48:28.000 Costa Rica's abolished their entire military.

01:48:30.000 They're not afraid of being invaded by Honduras.

01:48:33.000 Honduras isn't going to invade them.

01:48:34.000 And they just take it easy.

01:48:38.000 It's improved a lot of like literacy rates and things like that.

01:48:40.000 They've invested in education.

01:48:41.000 Yeah, you know, there was an article in the Washington Post that said war is good for the economy and war is great and all this. 0.97

01:48:49.000 It was obviously a completely amoral take, but what he was saying had some truth to it in the sense that he was arguing that the larger the conquest, The more peace and security within that conquest, the better it is for that population.

01:49:06.000 So, for example, there hasn't been a major outbreak of war in the space between Canada and Mexico since the 1860s.

01:49:15.000 And we've had this, you know, largely territorial monopoly on violence.

01:49:20.000 And they finished killing off all the Indians after the end of the Civil War.

01:49:25.000 But once they finished with the Indian Wars, we have essentially had peace and stability through this entire continent that was won through warfare. 0.97

01:49:33.000 And that this has really been good for the American people.

01:49:36.000 Overall, in an amoral sense at least, just in a financial sense, and in the growth of American power.

01:49:42.000 But the thing of it is, where he, the guy that wrote the article where he's making the invidious conflation, is he's comparing the size of the territory controlled by any given government with the size of the government.

01:49:58.000 And having a giant war and having a massive government that has this total control, when in fact you could have an extremely minimal federal government in Washington D.C., say for example, just enough to keep the peace between Texas and Louisiana, but nothing more than that, then that would really be, you know, all other things being equal.

01:50:17.000 That would be the ideal.

01:50:19.000 We can't end war.

01:50:20.000 It's very easy.

01:50:21.000 And I have this idea.

01:50:22.000 I was thinking that what we would need to do is, you know, at the height of these tensions around the world, you know, the Russia, the North Korea, the China stuff, we need to generate a fake alien invasion that unifies all the countries against it.

01:50:37.000 Now, the biggest problem we're facing is that Dr. Manhattan can see into the future.

01:50:41.000 So we'll need to do some tachyon research to cloud his vision, in which case then we'll actually be able to get away with it.

01:50:46.000 Solve the Dr. Manhattan problem.

01:50:47.000 Right, alright.

01:50:48.000 So as soon as we solve that, we'll be able to stage the alien invasion, which will unify the planet.

01:50:52.000 You know what we could do in North Korea?

01:50:53.000 Here's what we could do in North Korea. 1.00

01:50:55.000 We could kill them with kindness. 1.00

01:50:57.000 We could drop all sanctions. 0.97

01:50:58.000 We could promise to negotiate a final peace deal to end the Korean War, which we have only a ceasefire left over from 1952.

01:51:06.000 We could open up all trade relations with them, we could send Dennis Rodman and all of his friends, and all of our best and worst bands, and whatever, and just, we have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to give.

01:51:20.000 I think you're right.

01:51:21.000 Flies with honey, man, flies with honey.

01:51:22.000 Let me read this, though. 0.85

01:51:23.000 Dylan Keller says, Stop bringing CCP shills on the show, LMAO, although I guess it works out for you since it gets dummies like me to super chat.

01:51:32.000 You're on to us!

01:51:33.000 No, we bring people on the show.

01:51:36.000 I mean, I'd love to have a bunch of socialists on the show.

01:51:38.000 They don't want to do it.

01:51:39.000 They're scared.

01:51:39.000 They're genuinely afraid of two things.

01:51:41.000 One, legit leftists are scared of COVID.

01:51:44.000 Like young 20-something leftists we've invited on the show are like, dude, I'm really terrified.

01:51:49.000 I won't travel.

01:51:50.000 And I'm like, okay.

01:51:51.000 And we've had a few that are like, oh, I'm not worried about it.

01:51:54.000 So they're scared of that.

01:51:55.000 But many of them are scared of getting canceled.

01:51:58.000 There's a few people I know, they do not have... Look, a lot of these leftists are young.

01:52:04.000 You know, you got 10 years on me, you know so much more than I do about this foreign policy stuff.

01:52:07.000 I'm not afraid to be like, oh, yeah, I guess I don't know that, huh?

01:52:09.000 That's interesting.

01:52:10.000 But they are.

01:52:12.000 They know if they come on this show and they're like 25, I'm 35, I don't know everything, but I have 10 years more experience watching all this political stuff, they'll get trounced.

01:52:20.000 They'll say something about, like, some socialist policy, and then I'll bring up something where, like, it happened, it didn't work, and they'll be like, I don't know what that is.

01:52:25.000 So they don't want to come on the show.

01:52:26.000 I'd love to have conflicting opinions.

01:52:28.000 We try to get as many people with different opinions as possible.

01:52:32.000 But it is true that whenever there's disagreeableness or passion, people super chat a lot more.

01:52:39.000 Which by the way, the government of China, I don't think anybody argues whether it's a totalitarian dictatorship or whether the people there are free or not.

01:52:46.000 The question is whether we should fight them or not.

01:52:48.000 The question is whether we should believe all the propaganda that's told about them in order to try to get us amped up to fight.

01:52:48.000 Right.

01:52:54.000 The question is whether they pose a threat to the people of the United States of America, or don't they?

01:52:59.000 And what should our real policy be?

01:53:01.000 All right.

01:53:02.000 We got Brock Wick says, get Michael Bolden from 10th Amendment Center on the show.

01:53:02.000 We got more.

01:53:02.000 Well, let's read it.

01:53:07.000 Oh, yeah.

01:53:07.000 He is an expert on states nullifying federal law regarding guns, weed, and immigration sanctuaries.

01:53:13.000 I absolutely endorse that.

01:53:15.000 Michael Bolden is a brilliant genius.

01:53:15.000 Let me tell you something.

01:53:18.000 And the Tenth Amendment Center does such good work.

01:53:21.000 And because they're libertarians, they tell leftists, oh, you don't like nullification because that reminds you of the Civil War or something like that.

01:53:30.000 Well, what do you think sanctuary cities for immigrants are?

01:53:33.000 And what do you think legalized pot is?

01:53:35.000 That's nullification and interposition straight out of the Virginia and Kentucky resolutions.

01:53:39.000 And then he says to the right-wingers, he goes, listen, you guys might not like sanctuary cities and legalized pot, but it's working.

01:53:47.000 So this is what you need to do with guns.

01:53:50.000 How are you going to stop federal gun control?

01:53:53.000 You do it from the bottom up.

01:53:54.000 Nullification and interposition.

01:53:55.000 Declaring sanctuary states.

01:53:57.000 What happens?

01:53:58.000 If, you know, I think West Virginia declared a sanctuary, 2A Sanctuary.

01:54:02.000 I think that, I'm not sure.

01:54:03.000 But what happens if one of these jurisdictions, everybody just says they're gonna buy up NFA items, the ATF doesn't have the ability to go after that.

01:54:09.000 So, prohibition doesn't work, the federal government is not that strong, it's only through confidence in their power that people, you know, abide by this stuff.

01:54:16.000 That being said, becomes a really interesting point for how YouTube would function.

01:54:21.000 If West Virginia says it's legal, the federal government says it isn't, What do you, who's the right in that regard? Because the

01:54:28.000 states are sovereign, you know, the federal government, it's a federation. It does, you

01:54:32.000 know, it is supposed to supersede, but then is California wrong? Can we say California is wrong

01:54:37.000 about immigration?

01:54:38.000 If West Virginia is wrong about guns?

01:54:40.000 I mean, look, they have the supremacy clause, but that doesn't mean that

01:54:43.000 unconstitutional federal laws override state laws, only constitutional ones.

01:54:48.000 And so now the courts are always going to almost always side with the feds.

01:54:52.000 But if you remember back in the 1990s, there's this guy, Sheriff Mack, sued under the Tenth Amendment against the, it wasn't the Second Amendment, he used the Tenth Amendment to sue over the background checks, because it was essentially an unfunded federal mandate to the states that they had to do these background checks and pay for them all.

01:54:52.000 Right.

01:55:12.000 And he said this is a violation of the 10th Amendment and the Supreme Court upheld it and struck down the background checks on that.

01:55:18.000 All right, let's read a little bit more.

01:55:20.000 We got Daniel Maxwell says China is fighting an economic war against the United States while trying also to keep the United States ignorant of that fact.

01:55:29.000 I think so.

01:55:31.000 What does economic war mean?

01:55:33.000 They keep selling us microphones at reasonable prices?

01:55:35.000 It means that they can have their people work in unsavory circumstances with the point of mass suicide to undercut the market, making it cheaper and more lucrative for American greedy interests to just send the factories overseas at the expense of the American worker.

01:55:53.000 That sounds like a war between American big business and American workers, and the Chinese are just the useful tool of the Americans. 1.00

01:56:00.000 Well, the Chinese view it as, you know, we're in this for the long haul.

01:56:04.000 Let's extract as much value from that system and enrich ourselves.

01:56:08.000 And it means to them, make the people essentially sacrifice.

01:56:12.000 And that's long term planning.

01:56:14.000 In the U.S., you get some CEOs who's like, I can make more money moving the factory over to China, so I'll do it.

01:56:20.000 And it's terrible for the environment.

01:56:22.000 So.

01:56:24.000 That's the economic warfare, but it's also the Belt and Road Initiative.

01:56:26.000 It's also the attempts.

01:56:28.000 I'm for that.

01:56:29.000 I don't see what's the problem with the Belt and Road Initiative.

01:56:31.000 They want to build a highway and a railroad line and a fiber optic line from Shanghai to Lisbon.

01:56:37.000 That's the greatest invention in human history.

01:56:40.000 What's wrong with that?

01:56:41.000 It's just all part of economic warfare.

01:56:43.000 I don't see the warfare part of it.

01:56:45.000 Economics, you know, capitalism is mutually beneficial exchange.

01:56:49.000 I mean, you're right that they have a government and everything, but what threat do they pose?

01:56:54.000 For example, this is part of my whole... Authoritarianism encroaching throughout the world?

01:56:59.000 Yeah, but look, Kazakhstan is already an authoritarian state.

01:57:02.000 The Chinese aren't making it into one. 1.00

01:57:05.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:06.000 And you know, people talk about, we have to stay in Afghanistan to keep China out.

01:57:12.000 But China's not invading Afghanistan.

01:57:14.000 They're gonna buy it.

01:57:15.000 Yeah, if they're gonna buy anything, they're gonna try to buy, you know, influence in very small areas where they can make some money mining or something.

01:57:23.000 But there's no real security in Afghanistan.

01:57:25.000 Let's get more serious though.

01:57:26.000 Do you know that one of the reasons we have a housing crisis is that China will come in and offer insane amounts of money to people selling?

01:57:31.000 So, somebody's got a house, it's worth 300k, they'll be like, I'm gonna sell it for 300, and then a working class family says, I can afford that, and then the Chinese investor says, I'll give you 400 on the spot.

01:57:41.000 I'd like to know more about the Chinese role in inflating American housing prices.

01:57:47.000 I mean, right now in Austin, where I'm from, you have hundreds and hundreds, thousands even, of houses being bought up at a time by Wall Street hedge funds.

01:57:56.000 And they're not Chinese. 0.81

01:57:58.000 They're from New York.

01:57:59.000 And the thing is, the interest rates are so low, They actually would be crazy to not do that.

01:58:05.000 They actually, you know, seem to have no choice but to invest in land because nothing else is paying off.

01:58:12.000 And so, you know, you can't invest in a bank CD, right?

01:58:15.000 You can't just have a savings account.

01:58:16.000 You gotta do something with your money.

01:58:19.000 You got little old ladies gambling in bitcoins in the stock market because they're losing money on having a savings account. 1.00

01:58:25.000 And then they all, you know, invest in these mutual funds and these kinds of things and they turn around and buy up all the housing.

01:58:33.000 But, again, it all comes from the free money.

01:58:35.000 The hedge funds, where are the hedge funds getting this money?

01:58:37.000 That's not their savings.

01:58:38.000 They're taking out a giant loan from the bank that got it from the Fed, gave them a license to print money.

01:58:43.000 For free.

01:58:43.000 All right, let's read this.

01:58:43.000 Yep.

01:58:44.000 We got Sergeant Hodl says, Hey Tim, let's all help out Project Veritas for free.

01:58:49.000 Shockingly, the Woke Amazon Smile program has Veritas available as a charitable organization, and a portion of all your purchases get donated to them.

01:58:57.000 Absolutely!

01:58:58.000 Yeah, Veritas posted the clip from the show where I said James needs to get corrective surgery for his back because he has too many spines or his spine is too big.

01:59:09.000 I thought it was funny.

01:59:09.000 That was funny.

01:59:10.000 I said it and then I heard it and I was like, I'm funny.

01:59:13.000 It was a good show.

01:59:13.000 I'm a funny guy.

01:59:14.000 It's good to appreciate yourself.

01:59:17.000 Alright, TheCivicNationalist says, Scott and everyone go watch TIK on YouTube.

01:59:22.000 He has a lot of videos on the Second World War.

01:59:25.000 Hitler was the aggressor. 0.98

01:59:26.000 We were defending the Polish from both the Soviets and the Germans.

01:59:29.000 Also look into Pax Britannica.

01:59:31.000 Don't talk about things you know so little about.

01:59:35.000 Read Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War by Pat Buchanan.

01:59:38.000 We weren't defending Poland from anything.

01:59:41.000 Poland belonged to the Communists until 1989.

01:59:43.000 The British never put one soldier on the ground in Poland to kick the Nazis out. 0.75

01:59:50.000 The whole thing was a giant blunder, and it was Winston Churchill himself who said at the end of the war, Ah, jeez, I guess I really shouldn't have done that, huh?

01:59:58.000 Yeah.

01:59:59.000 I got one you'll like.

02:00:00.000 Like Freeman Dye Free says, conservatives have always been wrong on foreign policy.

02:00:04.000 It's the libertarians' turn to control foreign policy.

02:00:07.000 Full autos for all the citizens and death to the military empire.

02:00:11.000 I'm totally down.

02:00:12.000 You know why I've always said, like, my politics are actually, like, kind of left-of-center libertarian, but I would vote for, like, among candidates, like a Ron Paul.

02:00:21.000 I think it was Ron Paul who said, no one is stopping, a paraphrase, if you want to have a socialist commune in the United States, no one's stopping you.

02:00:29.000 Right.

02:00:29.000 You literally can just go do it.

02:00:30.000 And I'm like, I dig it.

02:00:32.000 So if that guy's in charge, you can leave me alone and I'll live the way I want to.

02:00:36.000 I'm libertarian.

02:00:37.000 I don't want to tell anybody.

02:00:38.000 I might lean left because that means I won't have a farm with a bunch of hippies on it who share their watermelons and we don't want to compete. 0.68

02:00:44.000 But if you want to have an ANCAP or a more libertarian right thing, you go do your thing, I'll do my thing.

02:00:49.000 That's what we all agree on.

02:00:50.000 Ron Paul was a candidate for that.

02:00:52.000 I'll take it.

02:00:53.000 And you know, in Austin, when I grew up, there was a hippie commune out east of town out in Bastrop called the Zendik Farm, and they had a mini ramp out there.

02:01:01.000 So me and my friend John went out to skate the mini ramp.

02:01:03.000 That's probably the last time I could do ollie blunts.

02:01:08.000 Those are the days.

02:01:09.000 And it was crazy, like, you know, they had, it was just like you would expect, right?

02:01:13.000 There's the big purple house where only the elite of the commune are allowed to go, right?

02:01:18.000 And then you have the smaller house where the other guy, and then, you know, there's people out there breaking their back in the field.

02:01:24.000 And it didn't seem very fun to me at all. 0.91

02:01:26.000 Yeah, it was ridiculous, man.

02:01:28.000 Yeah, that's a thing. 0.86

02:01:29.000 But they were free to do it and nobody stopped them from doing it.

02:01:32.000 Communism is the most effective form of government.

02:01:36.000 For five people.

02:01:37.000 I had to pause to build the suspense.

02:01:39.000 For the dictator, yeah.

02:01:40.000 For him and his friends.

02:01:40.000 No, no, no, no, no.

02:01:42.000 In every scale.

02:01:43.000 So if you're just five people, like it's just you and four other people, communism works real great.

02:01:49.000 Jack Murphy.

02:01:49.000 Who said it?

02:01:50.000 Jack Murphy.

02:01:51.000 At home, I'm a communist.

02:01:52.000 He was quoting someone else.

02:01:53.000 You know, we all share all the resources for everybody.

02:01:56.000 The kids do the chores because it's what they're able to do, but they get food regardless.

02:01:59.000 And, yes, when you are just five people, it's very, very easy to have friends who work together and say, you know, I'm gonna go do the dishes.

02:02:07.000 Would you mind picking up the food?

02:02:08.000 Yeah, no problem.

02:02:09.000 It's simple.

02:02:10.000 And then as you scale up, communism works really well for five people.

02:02:14.000 Once you have a country of 300 million, communism still works really well for just those five people.

02:02:18.000 Yeah.

02:02:19.000 That's the name of the game.

02:02:19.000 I like that.

02:02:21.000 All right.

02:02:22.000 Creamer of the Dairy Squad says, 6th Super Chat.

02:02:24.000 Hope you read it.

02:02:25.000 Hey, Tim, got my emergency food in the mail today.

02:02:27.000 Ian, check your Twitter DMs message about metaphysics.

02:02:31.000 I like that.

02:02:32.000 Oh, we got some polycarbonate.

02:02:34.000 Should have been here today for 3D printing.

02:02:36.000 That was cool.

02:02:36.000 Yep, it's here.

02:02:37.000 It is here.

02:02:37.000 Yeah, I saw it.

02:02:38.000 Did Andreas get it?

02:02:40.000 I put it outside.

02:02:41.000 I hope he found it.

02:02:42.000 It's sitting on the... It's sitting on the porch.

02:02:44.000 So I printed a, uh... This is one of the coolest things ever.

02:02:47.000 I've been rollerblading a lot more than skateboarding.

02:02:49.000 And we've been having fun with it.

02:02:51.000 But there's a thing called an H-Block. 0.98

02:02:52.000 Which allows you to do grinds on rollerblades.

02:02:54.000 We 3D printed our own.

02:02:56.000 And I shattered it today.

02:02:58.000 It's awesome!

02:02:59.000 But it was just really cool to be able to 3D print something I could practically use that works.

02:03:03.000 And then to break it was even better.

02:03:05.000 Because I printed another one!

02:03:05.000 So I was like, yeah!

02:03:07.000 3D printing is awesome.

02:03:08.000 Did you document it yet?

02:03:09.000 No, no.

02:03:09.000 I just broke and then I popped it out.

02:03:12.000 So hopefully we'll 3D print some polycarbonate ones.

02:03:14.000 We should blog that.

02:03:14.000 Oh, that'd be a good video.

02:03:16.000 Yeah, and it's really cool.

02:03:18.000 I also ordered these ridiculous rollerblades.

02:03:21.000 They're not rollerblades.

02:03:22.000 They're two bike tires and then on the axle on the inside are footholders.

02:03:28.000 What?

02:03:29.000 So you actually strap your feet in and you have two bike tires on your left and right legs.

02:03:32.000 It's insane.

02:03:33.000 It's the craziest looking thing ever.

02:03:34.000 It's gonna be so much fun.

02:03:35.000 And they have inner tubes.

02:03:36.000 They're like actual bike tires.

02:03:38.000 We're gonna get weird.

02:03:39.000 Oh, cool.

02:03:39.000 And I'll be the only one to actually do tricks on those things and people will be like, it's a new sport.

02:03:44.000 And then we gotta get pogo sticks.

02:03:46.000 Dude, I've seen some amazing pogo stick videos. 1.00

02:03:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:03:48.000 Wow.

02:03:49.000 I've seen, like, people do grinds on these.

02:03:50.000 Like, a guy hit a handrail on a pogo stick.

02:03:52.000 They do it all the time, apparently.

02:03:53.000 Yeah, I saw some insane pogo stick video about a year ago.

02:03:56.000 And it was, the pogo stick itself was like a new and improved kind of version.

02:04:01.000 Yeah.

02:04:01.000 And then, like you're saying.

02:04:02.000 Yeah, doing stairs and rails.

02:04:02.000 Hitting handrails on it.

02:04:04.000 Dude, that's cool, man.

02:04:05.000 A guy, he, like, pogo'd up, did, like, a pogo spin and then landed on a handrail.

02:04:05.000 Yeah, I like it.

02:04:10.000 That's fun stuff, man.

02:04:11.000 I'm stoked to see that.

02:04:13.000 It's just really cool to see people use things in ways they weren't intended.

02:04:17.000 I've always been a hacker, and that's the thing about hacking.

02:04:19.000 Hacking is making something do something it wasn't intended to do.

02:04:22.000 Skateboarding and all of these disciplines do very much of that.

02:04:25.000 It's awesome.

02:04:25.000 I love it.

02:04:26.000 Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats here.

02:04:29.000 Oh, that one got retracted.

02:04:31.000 We don't have too much time, but we'll do as many as we can.

02:04:33.000 Hey, there you go, man.

02:04:35.000 has been watching since 2015 and modeled my news channel after you.

02:04:35.000 Appreciate it.

02:04:39.000 No cursing and article fact based.

02:04:41.000 Would love a shout out for both this channel, Let's Play slash Video Games and the NSANE

02:04:46.000 report.

02:04:47.000 That's E-N-S-A-N-E. 1.00

02:04:49.000 News with a psychotic twist.

02:04:50.000 Hey, there you go, man.

02:04:51.000 Appreciate it.

02:04:52.000 Good luck.

02:04:54.000 Sol Invictus says, my local news channel could not report on overnight shootings without saying it in such a way that it made it sound like a 17-year-old shot a 90-year-old.

02:05:01.000 In reality, they were two separate victims.

02:05:03.000 Weird.

02:05:04.000 Yeah, today at George Floyd Square, the no-go zone, there was a news reporter was giving his speech or whatever and then gunshots started ringing out like crazy.

02:05:13.000 Yeah, I saw that headline.

02:05:14.000 Yeah, and you know what I said?

02:05:17.000 I'm looking at the story and I'm like, that's a no-go zone.

02:05:19.000 No-go zones are defined as areas where normal governance has ceased, the police, medical can't go there or are scared to go there, regular people can't enter or can enter with only great risk, and I'm like, that clearly defines all of these autonomous zones.

02:05:35.000 There's, like, people being shot and killed.

02:05:37.000 And the people who have written about the George Floyd Square, it's not some, like, anarchist utopia.

02:05:43.000 It is violence and chaos.

02:05:44.000 It is the opposite of what people, you know... It's the opposite of what we hear about, like... What is it?

02:05:51.000 Acapulco?

02:05:52.000 Is that it?

02:05:53.000 Yeah.

02:05:53.000 Anarchapulco?

02:05:54.000 Anarchapulco, yeah.

02:05:55.000 That's the event?

02:05:56.000 Yeah.

02:05:56.000 Yeah, down there I hear, like, people get along and they actually... What's that place in Mexico where they got rid of the police?

02:06:02.000 Oh, I don't know, but I know what you're talking about.

02:06:03.000 That's in the West, I think.

02:06:05.000 Right.

02:06:05.000 Places like that are where actual anarchy functions, when regular people just want to be left alone.

02:06:11.000 These autonomous zones are being run by authoritarians who just do whatever they want.

02:06:15.000 It's just absolutely not the same thing.

02:06:16.000 Chiron. 0.78

02:06:17.000 Oh yeah, Chiron.

02:06:18.000 Chiron. 0.78

02:06:19.000 Yep.

02:06:21.000 Sonny James says, disagree with your guest's opinion on AZT.

02:06:24.000 It was recycled on AIDS patients when doctors found it too deadly for cancer patients.

02:06:28.000 Fauci made money off of that.

02:06:30.000 Not to mention, Kerry Mullis said PCR technology couldn't detect viruses.

02:06:34.000 He wanted to debate Fauci.

02:06:35.000 Interesting.

02:06:37.000 I mixed up AZT with another one then or something, because I know that the story in the 80s was he was suppressing the drugs in order to boost research into the vaccine.

02:06:49.000 Interesting.

02:06:50.000 All right.

02:06:51.000 They never did come up with that.

02:06:52.000 We have- Kerry Mullis is legit, by the way.

02:06:54.000 I like that guy a lot.

02:06:55.000 Yeah.

02:06:57.000 Stephen Clyde says, Scott, I had a blast hanging out with you at the LP convention.

02:07:01.000 Can you talk about the Mises caucus for a minute?

02:07:04.000 Yeah sure.

02:07:05.000 So the Mises Caucus is a radical new young faction of the Libertarian Party led by a guy named Michael Heiss and it's basically the Ron Paul revolution has decided to join the LP.

02:07:15.000 See there's been a real problem with the Libertarian Party because back in the 1980s the Rothbard faction and the Cato faction all fought so badly they both left.

02:07:26.000 And they essentially just left kind of a husk of an LP behind.

02:07:30.000 And there's been, no offense to long-term LP people out there, I'm not trying to fight you, but there's been this dichotomy where you have the people who sit around reading and caring about this stuff, and then you have the people who work together in the party networking and doing the work and collecting the petitions and staying on the ballot and things.

02:07:47.000 But those people don't read and don't know what the hell is going on and they're not mad as hell about it.

02:07:53.000 And so you get a lot of stuff like, geez, it'd be better if taxes were lower and, you know, wars are bad.

02:07:59.000 But you don't get like, hey, man.

02:08:02.000 These taxes are destroying these people's lives.

02:08:05.000 And this war is bad, and this war is bad, and this war is bad.

02:08:10.000 Now hear me out, though.

02:08:11.000 But this is the new invention, is the Mises caucus are guys who are principled and radical and actually care a lot about what's going on in the country now.

02:08:20.000 So they could talk about libertarianism in a way that's not just abstraction, like, hey, we should be like Switzerland, neutral.

02:08:26.000 But we need to come home from Afghanistan today.

02:08:29.000 Now, hear me out.

02:08:31.000 What if we raised taxes to 100% and engaged in complete and total war around the planet?

02:08:38.000 Well, that's what it would take, probably.

02:08:40.000 And then we'd all lose.

02:08:41.000 Just the opposite.

02:08:42.000 Yeah, we'd all lose because there's, what, eight or nine countries with H-bombs now. 1.00

02:08:46.000 Alright, uh, what is this, Garbage Mane? 0.84

02:08:49.000 Tim, please tell Scott High from his favorite garbage man and skateboarder in San Antonio.

02:08:53.000 Can't wait to skate that ramp again soon.

02:08:55.000 Oh yeah, this is my guy.

02:08:56.000 We're Twitter friends and now he's coming out to the vert ramp.

02:08:59.000 We skate every Wednesday and Sunday morning.

02:09:02.000 Right on.

02:09:02.000 At Skate Church and he's gonna get them boots out of the air soon.

02:09:06.000 Danger Close says, ask this guy if it's moral to position rocket artillery next to schools and hospitals.

02:09:12.000 Hamas uses the Palestinian people as meat shields.

02:09:15.000 Ask him if he supports the chant, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

02:09:20.000 Should Israel turn off the Iron Dome and roll over? 0.68

02:09:23.000 First, ask him if it's a war crime for the Israelis to put their defense department right in the middle of downtown Tel Aviv.

02:09:30.000 Because that's the exact same thing.

02:09:31.000 The Gaza Strip is one of the most heavily populated places in the world.

02:09:35.000 It's a concentration camp.

02:09:36.000 Okay?

02:09:37.000 You know, people talk about, well, what would you do if the Mexicans started firing rockets over the Rio Grande?

02:09:43.000 Well, by that you mean the Mexican military.

02:09:46.000 The Mexicans, not some Mexicans.

02:09:48.000 The Mexicans means the sovereign nation-state of Mexico and its military.

02:09:52.000 But that's not what's going on here.

02:09:54.000 These people were conquered 54 years ago.

02:09:58.000 They live in a concentration camp under the total and complete control Israel. So it's not a sovereign state with Hamas attacking

02:10:07.000 and starting a war and the Israelis defending themselves that's not it at all

02:10:11.000 and there's essentially very few places in the Gaza Strip you could

02:10:14.000 place artillery or rockets or anything where it's not close to somebody else.

02:10:20.000 Now you want to talk about human shields just type in Israeli soldiers human

02:10:24.000 shields and there they tie a little kid to the to the or no they tie a grown man

02:10:29.000 to the front of their Jeep and drove around with him in 2014 use him as a

02:10:34.000 human shield and then there's a picture of a

02:10:37.000 A little boy, probably 13, 14 years old, who for hours, the IDF made him walk in front of them and go in first when they kicked in doors and all these things.

02:10:47.000 Literally using him as a human shield.

02:10:50.000 Not a figure of speech, a metaphor.

02:10:53.000 Well, Hamas launches rockets from nearby.

02:10:57.000 I don't even know if it was Hamas that launched the rockets.

02:10:59.000 I'm getting reports.

02:11:00.000 No, I don't even know what's that.

02:11:02.000 I don't know if it's a false flag.

02:11:03.000 Okay, okay.

02:11:04.000 It is true that Hamas was operating in the same building as Associated Press.

02:11:08.000 No, that's not true.

02:11:09.000 There was no report for that.

02:11:10.000 It was reported in 2014 that reporters for the Associated Press said... Yeah, but that reporter was full of it, and the Associated Press repudiated his claims then.

02:11:17.000 There was no evidence for that whatsoever.

02:11:19.000 It was a total hoax story.

02:11:21.000 Fake news.

02:11:23.000 So this is the inherent challenge, I suppose.

02:11:25.000 It's based on reports.

02:11:27.000 So here's what we have.

02:11:28.000 We have the Israelis claimed that, and you have the Israelis told Joe Biden, here's the evidence for it, and Joe Biden accepted it.

02:11:38.000 But it's still secret.

02:11:39.000 They've never provided any evidence for us.

02:11:40.000 And the AP said that's absolutely not the case.

02:11:43.000 But this is the problem with this conflict, period, is that It is one of, like, the issues.

02:11:53.000 You have to choose who you trust.

02:11:55.000 Choose if it's fake news or not.

02:11:56.000 I don't trust any military organization.

02:11:58.000 It's just like anything else, though.

02:12:00.000 I mean, what it is, is choose as many different sources of information as you can, and then make them fight.

02:12:06.000 Right?

02:12:06.000 Like, you can't live your life without reading the Washington Post.

02:12:09.000 You have to read the Washington Post.

02:12:10.000 You also have to know that they are your enemy, and they hate your guts, and they lie to you most of the time, and they have an agenda.

02:12:16.000 At the same time, they have real resources and important reporters who get important stories, so you have to sift and sift and It's the same problem when I see videos in New York of a Palestinian activist chasing a Jewish man down the street, or a Jewish guy getting beaten and attacked, or a woman getting an explosive thrown at her by these pro-Palestinian groups, and then I see them telling me that they're defending themselves.

02:12:39.000 So I understand that's not the same thing as Palestine.

02:12:41.000 But I see these videos coming out of activist groups that are very much... I enter this thing as like, I was not alive when this thing started.

02:12:49.000 And I see videos where I'm like, they're both claiming the same things about each other.

02:12:53.000 Which one am I supposed to just decide is correct or right or wrong?

02:12:55.000 Hey, I got a better idea. 0.97

02:12:57.000 Why the fuck are we involved in it? 0.99

02:12:58.000 Now you got me swearing. 0.99

02:12:59.000 There we go.

02:13:00.000 It's already the after show.

02:13:01.000 Yeah, I know.

02:13:02.000 We're going to get to the after show.

02:13:03.000 So let me... We'll read some more Super Chats. 0.99

02:13:05.000 But we'll do one last one, which is a big one.

02:13:08.000 Mark Ashley says, hey Scott, what's your theory on why Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki was killed?

02:13:15.000 I think it was just because of what a propagandist he was, what a successful propagandist he was.

02:13:20.000 This is before YouTube was kicking people off.

02:13:22.000 Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki.

02:13:24.000 Oh, I'm sorry, the boy.

02:13:25.000 I'm sorry.

02:13:27.000 Not Anwar. 0.90

02:13:28.000 I think only because he knew too much.

02:13:31.000 I mean, they said that they were trying to kill the guy he was with.

02:13:34.000 And that he was, you know, unlucky to be there too.

02:13:38.000 They bombed a civilian restaurant in Yemen.

02:13:40.000 Well, they don't care about that.

02:13:43.000 But I think, I mean, if there was like a kind of covert sort of secret reason why they wanted to kill the boy, it was because he knew too much about his father.

02:13:51.000 Because he was certainly not a terrorist.

02:13:53.000 He went there to find his father and bring him home.

02:13:57.000 But he had to have known that he had been an FBI informant in the past and things like that.

02:14:03.000 I mean, honestly, the Occam's razor explanation is they just didn't give a damn.

02:14:06.000 They were killing the guy that he was with and he was there.

02:14:09.000 Now, what's interesting, really interesting, is the, I forget if it was Delta or the SEALs, I think it was the SEALs, shot and killed Alaki's daughter.

02:14:19.000 That's right.

02:14:19.000 Under Trump.

02:14:20.000 Under Trump. 1.00

02:14:21.000 Shot her in the neck. 1.00

02:14:22.000 She bled out over four hours. 0.99

02:14:23.000 She was eight?

02:14:24.000 And yeah, eight years old.

02:14:25.000 Or nine, I think eight, yeah.

02:14:27.000 And again, they said, well, wrong place, wrong time.

02:14:32.000 She was associated with this guy who, for obvious reasons, had been associated with her father.

02:14:39.000 And that's an American citizen who was killed without charge or trial.

02:14:42.000 All three of them.

02:14:43.000 American-born American citizens.

02:14:45.000 And that was, Obama granted us that, but that eight-year-old girl was under Donald Trump.

02:14:49.000 That was one of his first orders, so.

02:14:51.000 But, man, what an awful note to leave the show on, huh?

02:14:54.000 Well, we're gonna go to TimCast.com and have a bonus segment, so make sure you go and sign up.

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02:15:14.000 Do you want to shout anything out, Scott?

02:15:17.000 Antiwar.com?

02:15:18.000 Antiwar.com is the most important project on the internet.

02:15:21.000 And I'm pretty proud of the Libertarian Institute as well.

02:15:24.000 And check out the book, Enough Already.

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02:15:42.000 Oh, and one more thing about that.

02:15:44.000 If you go to youtube.com slash Scott Horton Show, I have the video version of that book where I basically walk through all of it from Jimmy Carter all the way through.

02:15:54.000 And that's kind of a nice little primer to get you started.

02:15:56.000 Cool.

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