In this episode, we talk about John Cena's bizarre comments about Taiwan, Rand Paul's call for the left to leave Twitter, and the Israel/Palestine situation. We're joined by Scott Horton of the Libertarian Institute and Ian Crossland of Antiwar.org to talk about it all.
00:00:25.000Apparently he was doing an interview and he referred to Taiwan as a country, which he probably knows almost nothing about, and this triggered a major backlash in China.
00:00:34.000You see, WWE, NBA, a bunch of American companies have been expanding into China, making tons of money.
00:00:40.000And so they're very concerned about losing that money.
00:00:43.000We saw this with the NBA, with LeBron, with Steve Kerr, with Mark Cuban.
00:00:48.000So John Cena puts out this very weird video where he's like trying to speak Mandarin apologizing, saying he just didn't know, you know, that Taiwan is not a country.
00:00:57.000The interesting thing about this is that, well, to Americans, Taiwan is.
00:01:02.000And there's serious questions about the lengths Americans are willing to go to do something about China and what it could ultimately lead to, and there's Fear of war and something called Thucydides Trap, which we reference a lot actually, which means, if you're not familiar, as a rising power comes to displace the reigning economic power, war breaks out.
00:01:21.000And that's something we really don't want.
00:01:23.000We've got a couple other stories, you know, Rand Paul is calling on Republicans to leave Twitter.
00:01:27.000Because these lefty personalities, these Democrats, have been mocking and encouraging, essentially, these attacks by praising the guy who attacked him.
00:01:36.000You know, caused very serious injuries to Rand Paul.
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00:06:08.000From the South China Morning Post, WWE superstar John Cena is very sorry to Chinese fans for referring to Taiwan as a country in Fast and Furious 9 promotional interview.
00:06:21.000There's a ninth Fast and the Furious movie you guys did.
00:06:50.000I made a mistake in one of my interviews.
00:06:52.000Everyone was asking me if I could use Chinese.
00:06:54.000Staff gave me a lot of information, so there was a lot of interviews and information," said Sina who started learning Mandarin to help his wrestling promotion integration in China.
00:07:03.000He has since gone viral many times for his enthusiastic Mandarin-speaking abilities.
00:08:32.000You know, we had Cassandra Fairbanks on, and she made really good points about not wanting to go to war with China under any circumstances, even the things we're seeing that are bad.
00:08:40.000And there's some deep philosophical questions here.
00:08:43.000The big thing I take issue with, with things like John Cena being deferential to China, is that there's clearly American interests.
00:08:50.000Is he more interested in making money by expanding his business into China, which means supporting Chinese interests against American interests?
00:08:58.000I don't think there's a way to play both sides on this one, right?
00:09:03.000In America, we, as a country, we respect Taiwan.
00:09:31.000So that means so long as they're more authoritarian in their speech, or I should say more collectivist, then they're going to keep winning a lot of these corporate battles, which means a lot more resources will flow towards China away from the U.S., and that will incentivize the political class to continue extracting resources through sending out our manufacturing and things like that.
00:09:51.000But in terms of the bigger, the broader point, which is Thucydides' trap, you're probably familiar with this.
00:10:10.000I think it's really bad because, I think a lot of what we're seeing with these corporations going to China is bad because I'm concerned about individualism, liberty, and what happens to the world if China becomes a superpower that supplants the U.S.
00:10:22.000is doing but with Chinese communist authoritarianism instead of Classical liberalism, I understand, from a historical perspective, not from the current American perspective, but at the very least we have a constitution, right?
00:10:36.000Well, listen, I mean, I think you're on to something that it's a real worry when American, you know, media characters and companies are so heavily invested in China are so heavily dependent on on Chinese money that then, you know, it undermines American values like free speech and things like you're talking about there.
00:10:56.000We saw this with And, you know, we're at the humorous stage of this, right?
00:11:10.000I'm an 80s kid, so I love the original Red Dawn.
00:11:13.000In fact, I just watched it recently, and it's just hilarious and wonderful.
00:11:17.000But I watched the remake of it, and it's just an absolute catastrophe.
00:11:21.000And the movie It was, I guess it came out like pretty near after the 08 crash.
00:11:26.000And so the idea was that the American government, clearly after George W. Bush, was so irresponsible, right, and had run America to the ground so badly that then the Chinese were going to take the advantage and conquer North America, which is about as silly as the Russians doing it back in the 80s, by the way.
00:11:45.000When they filmed the movie, they had... I remember there was a lady named Karen DaCosta that wrote for LewRockwell.com that was talking about how they were filming the movie in Chicago, and they had big red Chinese flags hanging down and all these things.
00:11:57.000She's like, oh, they're remaking Red Dawn, and it's China this time.
00:12:01.000But then by the time the movie came out, it wasn't China anymore.
00:12:05.000And so if you watch it, then like the beginning of the movie is like a 10 minute or like a little five minute news montage to try to explain the story of how North Korea ended up conquering all of Asia and then came across the Pacific Ocean for us next.
00:12:18.000And it's just the most ridiculous thing.
00:12:20.000And the movie was just terrible anyway.
00:12:35.000And so I think that could be a problem.
00:12:36.000But I think, look, overall, the more investment that we have in China and the more investment that they have here, the better off we all are and the safer we are from violent conflict.
00:12:46.000That's the famous quote from Frederick Bastiat.
00:12:48.000Where goods do not cross borders, soldiers will.
00:13:22.000And the long-range bomber manufacturers, they have a major interest in pursuing Cold War with China and ratcheting these things up.
00:13:31.000So what we have in a way is a war between big business factions in America, those who want to import and sell cheap crap, or whatever it is, versus those who want to sell weapons to the captive market that is the Pentagon.
00:14:27.000I think, you know, we saw this with a lot of the establishment Democrats 10 years ago, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, this idea like, OK, let's give them a bunch of stuff with this trade deal.
00:14:36.000It'll make it harder for there to be war.
00:14:40.000Trump was like, I got to shut this down.
00:14:42.000Ian often brings it up that the corporations in foreign countries could then sue Americans.
00:14:47.000The investor state dispute settlement clause in the TPP said that if we wanted to not buy Malaysian oil for some reason they could sue us for discrimination and then the taxpayer would have to fund this lawsuit.
00:14:58.000What ends up happening is while it may be true or that in many circumstances you'll get some crossover where people might actually come together that means we have to start adopting Chinese ideological I should say the Communist Party's ideological values Well, it doesn't mean that, right?
00:15:15.000I mean, for example, these basketball stars or whoever could go a lot more broke crossing the American people and selling out our values of free speech than pleasing the Chinese, right?
00:15:27.000I mean, is John Cena going to sacrifice his American audience for a Chinese one?
00:15:33.000But this is the issue that I was mentioning, that the ramifications from the American audience who aren't paying attention to politics is that they're going to shrug and say, I don't care.
00:15:44.000Whereas the Chinese audience is very much heavily invested and very, very, you know, pro-China.
00:15:51.000So John Cena could come out and say, you know, look, it's where's the most damage?
00:15:57.000If he says Taiwan is a country, then he loses tons of money in China.
00:16:01.000If he says Taiwan is not a country, then nothing's gonna happen to him in the United States.
00:16:15.000In order for a company to operate in China, they have to have a Chinese Communist Party member in that company, in that office, in the country.
00:16:21.000So now, Google starts... You start seeing protests in the U.S.
00:16:25.000when Google was developing a Chinese-censored search engine.
00:16:28.000People protested, Google claims to shut it down.
00:16:30.000I guess, I'm not sure, we have to have the experts back on, but there's rumors that Google
00:16:34.000just decided to just give in and start doing what they wanted.
00:16:38.000The American people, too many of them, don't care and don't pay attention.
00:16:42.000And so because of that, these companies are like, what's our risk?
00:16:45.000You can piss off Americans, but Americans don't pay attention, so they probably won't
00:16:50.000But these other countries that are much more invested in their country will get mad, so let's just make sure we're keeping them happy.
00:16:56.000And then over a long enough period of time, it seems like we're becoming too deferential to China because our business interests are.
00:17:02.000But then again, look at all the backlash against the NBA stars who, you know, said everybody be quiet about Hong Kong or whatever a couple years ago.
00:17:10.000And I don't know exactly the backlash against Cena, but there's a substantial one about this, right?
00:17:31.000After the Civil War, the Nationalists escaped to Taiwan, and then the Americans sailed the Seventh Fleet in there, I guess, and prevented Mao's forces from following them and conquering them.
00:17:43.000And then, from 1949 through, like, 1974, America only recognized Taiwan as the official legitimate government of China, even though They really only ruled this tiny island, and all of mainland China had been under the rule of the Maoists for, by that time, like 30-something years.
00:18:02.000And so, Nixon and Kissinger, in a move that was really made to, one, screw the Soviet Union, and two, kind of ameliorate from the fact that he was pulling us out of Vietnam by saying, well, don't worry about the domino effect, because we made friends with the Maoists.
00:18:19.000So now that we're friends with China, it doesn't matter so much that we're losing in Vietnam.
00:18:23.000And so they recognized China as, you know, the communist government in Beijing, as the official government of China, which was only reasonable.
00:18:32.000But then they adopted this policy of strategic ambiguity when it comes to the fate of Taiwan.
00:18:38.000And so America has no treaty with Taiwan and we're not sworn to protect them.
00:18:42.000But since Nixon, and various presidents say this in different ways, Trump almost accidentally changed the doctrine in the way that he stated it, but then his State Department walked it back.
00:18:53.000But essentially, the position is that there is one China, and the government in Beijing is the official government of all of China, including Taiwan, but that America will always oppose the reunification by force.
00:19:09.000But then, in what way will we oppose it?
00:19:45.000What difference does that make to you or me at all?
00:19:47.000Other than we're against war, we don't want to see anybody violently killed.
00:19:51.000But in terms of the American people's national interest?
00:19:55.000There's not one town, much less major city, we should be willing to trade for Taipei.
00:20:00.000And by the way, if we got into a nuclear war with China over Taiwan...
00:20:04.000They'd get Taiwan at the end of the day anyway.
00:20:06.000We'd end up losing LA and San Francisco and getting nothing out of it in exchange.
00:20:11.000Already, like, in my mind, I can see, like, the path of, like, the conflict and the arguments over for and against that I hear so often from, I wouldn't necessarily say the pro-war people, but the, like, I don't think, well, there's probably people who say they're pro-war for sure, but most people try to pass it off like it's war essentialism, like, I wish we didn't have to have it, but we do.
00:20:34.000Well, see, this is what you're talking about with the, I always forget how to pronounce it, the Greek trap there.
00:20:46.000The thing of it is that if America would just renounce our world empire, which we're not supposed to have in the first place, then it wouldn't matter that China is the rising power.
00:20:55.000The reason this is a trap is because America has declared that the entire Pacific Ocean is an American lake, and we won't settle for only 99%.
00:21:04.000All of it belongs to us, or we'll go to war over the idea.
00:21:09.000So if China becomes, again, the dominant power in East Asia, As it's always been for thousands of years, then we have to go to war against that?
00:21:21.000Or we have to recognize that this is the middle part of North America?
00:21:25.000And that sounds to me like Japan and Korea and Vietnam's problem, not mine.
00:21:32.000I mean, if you look back at the... I would assume a lot of the intent of the Founding Fathers was not to do any of this, but at a certain point... They warned us explicitly against foreign engagement like this, entangling alliances, whether, you know, with European powers or anyone else you could imagine, and foreign intervention altogether.
00:21:52.000World War I, I think, it changed everything.
00:21:54.000All of a sudden, yeah, all of a sudden now it was, every war was our responsibility, became the world police.
00:22:07.000If Biden can't defend Taiwan, then we could already see China's expansion, the claims of the South China Sea, the attacking of the Vietnamese fishing vessels.
00:22:15.000They'll just expand and exert influence and take over.
00:22:18.000And so the fear is, What happens if the U.S.
00:22:28.000They would be insane to look at what America's done for the last 20, 30 years and say, let's replicate that.
00:22:36.000We'll build 800 bases all around the world and then we'll kill 2 million Iraqis and Syrians and Yemenis and then we'll blow our own brains out and our civilization will collapse.
00:22:56.000I do think there is a certain efficiency in the Chinese Communist Party's authoritarianism I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying that you rule with an iron fist.
00:23:05.000They dictate and they have a plan for what they're going to do, whereas in the U.S., we have regime change every four years, almost.
00:23:11.000Like, one guy wants to go blow up this country.
00:23:13.000George W. is mad about, you know, Saddam and his dad's fight, so he wants to bring it back.
00:23:17.000Then Obama's like, I guess there's money to be made, so Joe Biden gets his brother some contract deals in Iraq.
00:23:22.000When you look at what's happening in the U.S., it's the extraction of value for personal gain, and it leads us I look at what the authoritarian, you know, the Chinese Communist Party, what they do is it's rigid, it's constructed, it's controlled, there's a plan there.
00:24:24.000So my fear is I would not want to live the way people in Hong Kong are currently, you know, with all the changes and the people being arrested and in mainland China.
00:24:34.000I like being able to tell, you know, I don't care who the president is, you know, to F off or whatever.
00:24:38.000But there's been direct economic competition between China and the U.S.
00:24:43.000I don't necessarily think warfare needs to always be hot with guns.
00:24:47.000And so what happens when, yes, through economic exploitation, we end up deferential to the Chinese Communist Party?
00:24:56.000I'm not in any way advocating for what the U.S.' 's stupid plans with sending guys with guns all over the place because you can clearly see that China, using investment, is doing way better in many ways.
00:25:05.000We are wasting time and money because we have corporations, we have big military-industrial companies that just want to expand and make more.
00:25:13.000Even when Congress says, or even when the Army's like, we don't need any more tanks, Congress is like, eh, rubber stamp it, and we just make them.
00:25:31.000Well, I mean, it's kind of a leap, though, from John Cena to all of us having to apologize to the Chinese all day for this, that, or the other thing.
00:25:41.000I mean, frankly, their military doctrine, our government's acronym for it, or, you know, the way they call it, I don't know exactly the Chinese term for it, is anti-access area denial.
00:26:47.000If we are pledged to defend the Koreas, and Japan, and Laos, and Cambodia, and Vietnam, and Australia, and every other, and what, Myanmar, and every other country in Asia from China, then yes, we are definitely in a Greek guy trap, and we're going to have a bloody war.
00:27:06.000Thucydides, but but the reality is that that's not in the interest of the American people whatsoever so if the Chinese like you're talking about the difference between The people that run the American government have only these very narrow interests and the Chinese government seems to have kind of broader plans I don't think that makes them necessarily any more like a threat You know, the defensive pact of World War One is basically what started it.
00:27:27.000Someone had a pact with, I don't know, was it the Austrian-Hungary, Hungarian Empire or something?
00:27:31.000Yeah, the Germans and the Ottomans and the Austro-Hungarians.
00:27:34.000So someone got invaded, then there was a defensive response.
00:27:37.000So like if Taiwan was invaded and the American defensive response would kick off a bunch of nations joining and defending each other and then a world war.
00:27:45.000But when you look at World War Two, Hitler invaded Poland.
00:27:48.000And if we had not done anything, They set up basically they used the conquered area of Poland to build more military.
00:28:32.000These are all just figures of speech, right?
00:28:34.000And in fact, you know, if the British hadn't given a war guarantee to Poland, then Hitler would have never turned West against France and Denmark and Belgium and England and the Western democracies in the first place.
00:28:48.000As you say, he was, they split Poland.
00:28:50.000He split Poland with the Soviet Union.
00:28:54.000and made a peace with them, because he knew that he was going to have to fight them sooner or later, but the British and the French were insisting on fighting him.
00:29:03.000So he decided to make a peace with Stalin, and fight and destroy all the Western democracies first, and then move into the Soviet Union.
00:29:13.000So if the British had just stayed out of it, once he went into Poland, the war between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union was inevitable, and he would have never It felt like he had to attack the Western democracies at all.
00:29:24.000The whole thing would have been in the East, which would have been a catastrophe for the people in the lands between Germany and the Soviet Union, but not for the Western democracies.
00:29:36.000In fact, if you read Pat Buchanan's book, Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War, they talk about when Neville Chamberlain... Everybody always makes fun of Neville Chamberlain for making peace over Czechoslovakia, right?
00:29:48.000But he's the one who he gave the war guarantee to Poland.
00:29:52.000And as soon as he did, Lord Gray, the foreign minister, said, Oh, my God, what are you doing?
00:29:56.000They should lock this man up in a mental hospital.
00:30:55.000Because I want to keep it to the- But when you have a belligerent that is going to invade, at what point do you say, I need to declare counter-war?
00:31:00.000The philosophical question that I wanted to get to before we started going off on the history stuff is, I guess the philosophical argument for those that are war essentialists is that, well, if we don't do it, they will, and I'd rather be on top of the mountain than, you know, the bottom of it, and that's like a very nightmarish prospect, but I think, I don't know, do you cross your fingers and hope no one's going to do it?
00:31:37.000Look, and the reality is, we had in the Cold War, with the Soviet Union, this bipolar world, where it was really America ruled two-thirds of the planet, and the Communists ruled one-third of it, right?
00:31:48.000And then when all that fell apart, this is what Charles Krauthammer, the neocon, called our unipolar moment.
00:31:54.000This is when we get to spend the next about 20 years making the world exactly how we want it.
00:32:00.000Before, not that America will get weaker, but before the rest of the world starts getting rich and their power starts becoming more equal to ours.
00:32:08.000And then so this has been seen all along as an eventuality that what we'll have is a multipolar world, where it matters what Beijing thinks, and it matters what New Delhi thinks, it matters what London thinks, it matters what Sao Paulo thinks.
00:32:22.000So what you're saying is that John Cena opposing China will kick off World War III.
00:32:33.000We'll definitely keep the conversation going on the philosophy of war as we move on, but let's talk about the media because we have this other story from the Hill.
00:32:41.000Media face hard questions on Trump and the Wuhan lab.
00:32:45.000I don't really need, I'll use the article as a reference, but I don't think I need to actually pull anything up because we all know what happened.
00:32:51.000Donald Trump very early on said the Wuhan lab, lab leak, we should investigate into it.
00:32:56.000The media went nuts, said it wasn't true.
00:34:27.000So it's like a 20,000-word article or something about how, geez, guys, we don't have the proof, but it really does look like it was the lab.
00:34:36.000But that means man-made, or manipulated, like Fauci said he wasn't convinced it was naturally occurring.
00:34:45.000It's this gain-of-function research where they deliberately make viruses more and more deadly on the theory that they can keep it locked up in the lab and that then they can anticipate future viruses.
00:34:56.000We're going to engineer a virus that attacks the ACE2 receptor on your lung cells and then we're going to figure out how to kill that virus.
00:35:03.000So that then if a virus similar to this ends up breaking out into the public, we'll know how to fight it.
00:35:10.000But of course, it's really dangerous work because what they're doing is they're deliberately evolving these viruses to be more and more contagious, more and more transmissible, because otherwise it takes too long.
00:36:58.000But see, now they're like, oh, well, Fauci said it, so.
00:37:00.000Well, and you also have Josh Rogin, who is, you know, very close to the war party and writes for the Washington Post, and he's just put out a new book about this as well, that says, like, we don't have the proof, but boy, does it sure look like this must be what happened.
00:37:16.000So a lot of people have mentioned this Medium post.
00:37:19.000And there was one viral tweet that was like, think about that.
00:37:22.000The only reason this story is getting out is because someone wrote a story on Medium because our media establishment wouldn't accept it.
00:37:28.000And the New York Times wouldn't publish their own science reporter.
00:37:34.000We had a researcher out of the University of Hong Kong saying, looked like a lab leak, and they knew people who were involved in it, and that was all rejected.
00:37:53.000It's not so much about why are they open to the possibility now, as much as why did they refuse to discuss this possibility all last year?
00:38:02.000And you already hit the key there, because it was Trump that said it.
00:38:06.000And they had an agenda to hang the virus around his neck no matter what.
00:38:11.000So, and frankly, You know, his leadership on the issue the first few months there was not so much to be admired.
00:38:19.000And so this was the thing that they're going to use as the millstone to hang around his neck.
00:38:24.000Now, if the virus came out of the lab in China, China, China, China, that fits in with his narrative and is handing him a point, maybe a few points.
00:38:34.000And now what's interesting, though, right, is that they could have turned it right back around again.
00:38:39.000Although they would have had to sacrifice their boy Fauci.
00:38:43.000They would have had to say that actually it is Trump's fault because Trump wasn't doing his job preventing Fauci from signing this emergency authorization to allow this virus to go on.
00:38:53.000So they could have still made it all Trump's fault anyway, but they would have had to go around the long way.
00:38:59.000And it was easier to just say, well, it came from nature and this guy just did nothing but sit on his hands and that's why everybody's dead.
00:39:05.000And there's no way they were going to let This complicated story break out in the summer and become a real topic of conversation if they could squelch it.
00:39:38.000This story, which just went up, like, what was it, like, now, 40 minutes ago, from Fox News, Senate advances measure barring taxpayer funds for China's Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:39:50.000Amendment added by GOP Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa to the Endless Frontier Act, which seeks to counter China, Only now!
00:40:12.000You know, I will say, I would love to see one, if there was one debate that I could see between, you know, a couple people, it would be Fauci, debating Fauci, with Fauci stepping in.
00:40:21.000Because Fauci's been anti-mask, he's been pro-mask, he said go on cruises, said cruises are dangerous, he said it's not gonna be a big deal, it's gonna be a really big deal, he said two masks, it's just common sense, he said two masks, there's no evidence suggesting, and then he said CDC guidelines say you should wear two masks.
00:40:40.000He's on all sides of every issue, so you can pick and choose, and if you want to like him, then you can go, I agree with half of the stuff this guy says.
00:40:48.000So I know, like you mentioned the other day, Lydia, that Crowder had a Fauci debating Fauci, but we need an updated Fauci debating Fauci.
00:40:56.000You know why he was first famous was because when the AIDS epidemic was first breaking out in the 1980s, he was the guy who pushed that, no, we must only fund vaccine research and we must do everything we can to thwart people who are trying to come up with medications to treat it.
00:42:22.000He's been entrenched in this industry at least.
00:42:24.000And seriously, let's just entertain the possibility for a second because it's not proven yet, okay?
00:42:27.000But let's just say that he signed this emergency authorization that allowed the money to go to this subcontractor to continue pushing this research at Wuhan.
00:42:36.000Fauci just killed a couple of million people.
00:42:42.000I don't know what was the last count of number of Americans who've died of this thing, but I guarantee you it's higher than the official count.
00:44:11.000I think they have studies that say that, like, if you and I are wearing masks, we're less likely to transfer it to each other here and now in this room.
00:44:18.000But if you try to extrapolate that out and say you have to, everyone in Virginia must wear a mask, it doesn't work.
00:44:29.000And the reason they thought the masks worked so well in the first place was because in countries like South Korea and in China and Hong Kong and Taiwan, they were all wearing masks and not getting very sick.
00:45:11.000The problem is, YouTube, we're at risk right now of getting totally pulled off just for even bringing this up.
00:45:17.000There have been channels that have been outright deleted with no warning for simply mentioning what you just said.
00:45:23.000But what are we supposed to do when we have clear examples in the political arena of states, and then when Fauci is brought on the Today Show and they say, how do you explain this?
00:45:32.000Then why are we listening to this guy, a TV doctor, who doesn't know what he's talking about, and for some reason, they act like he's an expert, they make action figures of him, they call it the Fauci Ouchie.
00:46:07.000He's the one who unleashed this virus on the planet.
00:46:10.000And now he's going around talking about how you and you and you aren't doing enough to protect yourselves from this thing.
00:46:15.000I thought you were going to say something else.
00:46:17.000Do you remember the episode of The Simpsons where they, I don't know what happened, there was like a council took over and then comic book guy is like trying to pass a law and he goes like, as the most logical species in the galaxy, the Vulcans, mating will now be, will now take place only once every seven years.
00:46:35.000For most of you this will be much, much less mating, but for me, much, much more.
00:46:39.000So the joke would be Fauci's like, we're gonna lock down because then, you know, nobody can have, you know.
00:46:43.000In the UK, actually, you couldn't go and have sex with somebody.
00:46:57.000Like, whether they actually ever pre-empted a naturally occurring virus, because they've been doing such a good job experimenting on possible ones.
00:48:30.000If someone makes a video and there is an eagle that picks up a baby and flies away, which is like it was a viral video that happened at some point, you debunk it by investigating the source material, Putting it through an analysis to track light and artifacts in the video, and then point to it and say, here's my proposal, I believe this is evidence, and then you have an expert opinion breaking down all the facts.
00:48:54.000Just having some guy go on TV and say, he's got an opinion, I got an opinion, okay, yours is the correct opinion, thanks, you have a nice day.
00:49:02.000Look, they say trust the science, but what they mean is trust the scientists that we have here saying things, when science itself is nothing but a process for debunking things.
00:49:12.000It's not something to be tru- I mean, you can trust it in the sense that it's an effective way to try to debunk things, but it's not a set of answers in a book somewhere that you just...
00:49:52.000Montagnier argued that the coronavirus disease 2019 was man-made in a laboratory, and that it might have been the result of an attempt to create a vaccine for HIV.
00:50:00.000His allegations came after the United States had launched a probe into whether the virus came from a laboratory.
00:50:05.000According to Montagnier, the presence of elements of HIV and germ of malaria in the genome of the coronavirus is highly suspect, and the characteristics of the virus could not have arisen naturally.
00:50:14.000Initially, this was described as a conspiracy vision that does not relate to real science by Jean-Francois Delfracy, an immunologist and the head of the Scientific Council that advises the French government on the COVID pandemic.
00:50:29.000However, Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, admitted on May 11, 2021 that he no longer is convinced that COVID-19 originated naturally.
00:50:41.000This guy was called a conspiracy theorist, and he is a Nobel Prize-winning virologist.
00:50:47.000And only now, because Fauci agrees with him, we're supposed to now say, okay?
00:51:01.000When Tucker Carlson has a guest on the show who can cite an award-winning Nobel laureate for his hypothesis, not even statement of fact, and PolitiFact says, we got some guy who gave us his opinion that you're wrong, so it's debunked!
00:51:15.000And then Vox and all these other outlets and CNN can say it's fake news now.
00:51:19.000How is it reality for these fact-checkers when the experts, the actual award-winning experts, are at odds with them?
00:51:27.000Who are these random people they put on the news and then claim are experts to debunk what you are saying?
00:51:46.000I reference NewsGuard, who sites... Are you gonna go now to every single one of these outlets that debunked LabLeak with no evidence, and their debunk was an opinion from some guy, and now claim they publish fake news?
00:51:59.000What if I get a former CIA official who comes and talks about some crazy conspiracies involving aliens?
00:52:23.000And remember too, by the way, I had forgotten about this, but there were two Indian Virologists at the very beginning who said they thought it was a lab leak because of the presence of what they recognized as pieces of HIV.
00:52:33.000And they were told that they were complete kooks.
00:52:53.000And it's it's this first of all please use this as another example we often have many examples to your friends and family when they're like I trust the media say Here you go.
00:53:08.000They called the Nobel Prize winner who discovered AIDS a conspiracy, HIV, sorry, a conspiracy theorist for saying, in my expert opinion, having discovered HIV, this is what I think about this.
00:53:25.000He didn't suggest a group of people came together to commit a crime in secret.
00:53:29.000He was just like, people do gain of function all the time.
00:53:31.000In fact, if you go back a year, What they would say about this always, in fact I remember Tucker Carlson refuting the debunking of his show, is they put words in his mouth that he said it was a biological weapon that was being used deliberately.
00:54:31.000Or like in 28 Days Later when they have the chimp infected and they're doing experiments and then the eco animal activists free it and zombies spread or whatever.
00:55:09.000And then it's like, no one ever said he had ice cream, but they add that tiny little bit that makes no sense, and the whole thing becomes fake.
00:55:16.000And then at the bottom they'll say, you know, they'll give you a bunch of verbose garbage you don't want to read, where it'll be like, in 2017, Tim Pool got the idea for putting on a show, and they'll talk about all this nonsense, and then right at the bottom, in one sentence, while he did appear on the show, he did not have ice cream.
00:55:30.000So people see these fact checks and they screencap and they share it with their friends.
00:55:53.000I hope that Fauci will be one of the greatest tools in waking people up to the lies of the establishment and the media.
00:56:02.000We need just like a 30 second clip of Fauci contradicting himself in really dumb ways.
00:56:06.000Especially if it's really proven that he did this.
00:56:09.000That this really does come from his funding.
00:56:13.000So what the fact check said is, well, you know, so Rand Paul questioned Fauci in this congressional hearing, and Fauci denied providing, we never funded any of this, you are wrong, and that's not true, the funding was provided.
00:56:27.000But what was really funny is PolitiFact said, Well, they were technically doing gain-of-function research, but there's different definitions of what that means, so it's not necessarily true.
00:56:37.000But what really happened is that, yes, there was money provided by the NIH, but it was kind of like a general pool.
00:56:45.000It wasn't allocated, so even though they used some of it for gain-of-function, we don't... It's like, did they really... Basically, what they're saying is, Well, they didn't explicitly sign off, do gain-of-function research.
00:56:58.000So, like, if you were building a skate park, and I was like, well, here, let me allocate a bunch of money to you to do whatever you want with it.
00:57:04.000And you're like, okay, I'll build a skate park with it.
00:57:06.000And I'm like, well, I didn't give you money to build a skate park.
00:57:09.000I gave you money, you were building a skate park, and you used it to build the skate park.
00:57:38.000Yes, they did this thing, but they didn't mean to.
00:57:41.000That's the media. That's the game they play. The weird thing is I am more comfortable and at ease with this whole
00:57:46.000thing knowing it's from a lab than thinking it just came from nature.
00:57:49.000Well, you don't know it's from a lab. Assuming that it, thinking, if I could pick, thinking that we were working on
00:57:56.000a virus that infected some people and it is way easier and like good, okay, at least we're trying to do something as
00:58:03.000opposed to just naturally some random virus came and started destroying humanity.
00:58:07.000In fact the SARS and MERS were like the two novel viruses from the last 20 years and luckily and they were very dangerous but they were only very dangerous to a small number of people they were able to contain them.
00:58:20.000So this is actually one of the hypotheses is that they were bringing bats in because they were doing experiments on COVID on the bat coronavirus Because of how dangerous it was.
00:58:31.000And the gain-of-function research was an attempt to create a vaccine.
01:01:01.000Yeah, once they started kicking all the right-wingers off of Twitter, and deranking them on Google, they said, no, but we're being fair.
01:01:09.000Because we're also picking on the left, too.
01:01:12.000And they went after Truthdig, Truthout, the World Socialist website, which is the Trotskyites, and they threw antiwar.com in there, even though we're libertarians, I guess they just assume we're leftists.
01:01:23.000So we got deranked by Google, along with everybody else.
01:02:42.000They cut it, they smack it from the middle, and then Trump loses a lot of his core evangelizers, these prominent personalities.
01:02:50.000That means less grassroots, you know, people rising up.
01:02:53.000They ban subreddits like The Donald, this massive subreddit where people are posting memes and having a good time.
01:02:58.000They cut it out from the ground up, and then Trump falls.
01:03:01.000They had to go after him with all of their force.
01:03:03.000That means the conservatives were getting the brunt of the censorship, but there were very much so many leftists who were anti-establishment as well, and screaming and saying F you to the Democrats the whole way, and they got nuked too, but there were fewer of them.
01:03:17.000So what ends up happening is the whole narrative becomes conservative, the liberals end up just saying it's fake news, conservatives are lying, it's a private company, and then many leftists who get banned Apparently weren't loud enough because leftists are always fighting with each other as well.
01:03:31.000A lot of leftists decided to align themselves with Democrats because, as they described it, it's easier to overthrow a feeble old man than it is a fascist, so they decided they were going to support Joe Biden.
01:03:43.000For some reason, they didn't then speak up for their own, or, if they did, and this is the problem, A conservative gets banned, the leftist laughs.
01:03:52.000The leftist gets banned and then demands the conservative stand up for them, and the conservative
01:04:38.000Well, you know, I think it's really one of the major crises of our era is the left, the further left, really giving up on freedom of speech and bringing the liberals with them.
01:04:51.000You know, it used to be the liberals were the ones who would go to court to fight for your right to say whatever you want that they disagree with, but they really don't.
01:04:58.000Yeah, they've taken really much more of a totalitarian sort of a left.
01:05:03.000You know, my friend Anthony Gregory says, It used to always be the best thing about the left was that they weren't the liberals.
01:05:10.000And the best thing about the liberals was that they weren't the left.
01:05:34.000Right now, the leftists on Twitter are posting Karl Marx.
01:05:37.000Under no pretext shall arms and ammunition be surrendered.
01:05:40.000The workers must frustrate this by force if necessary.
01:05:44.000The liberals literally banned a bunch of my guns.
01:05:46.000Well, that's true that there are some leftists who are good on guns, but I think that those kind of quotes are pretty rare among the real hard left, but especially like on things like speech and war.
01:05:59.000So it used to be that you could rely on the leftists to be against imperialism, to oppose the FBI and the CIA and all these things, and you could rely on the liberals to, you know, essentially support capitalism and not be, you know, the worst on But like neoliberal capitalism.
01:06:21.000So yeah, we're talking about, we're not talking about libertarianism.
01:06:24.000We're talking about the center left Democrats.
01:06:26.000But then what happened was Trump was so polarizing that he pushed the leftists and the liberals together, but only for the worse, right?
01:06:34.000So the liberals abandoned their belief in free speech so that they could collaborate with the leftists on kicking everybody else off.
01:06:42.000And then the leftists abandon all of their opposition to, not all, but in large measure their opposition to imperialism and to the federal police agencies because who's protecting us from Donald Trump?
01:07:03.000This is what I said, because I've known all of these Occupy people, these leftists, I said it was the greatest de-radicalization in the history
01:07:12.000of the United States when I see the far leftists from Occupy cheering for the FBI.
01:07:32.000And I was like, I'm so happy to see that you stepped back from the edge and you've come towards liberalism and now you accept the FBI and the federal government as your saviors and you're no longer on the side of committing crimes.
01:07:45.000Then another hacker comes in and she's saying, She's like, yes, finally!
01:07:50.000I remember you sleeping on the floor of that hacker collective, talking about how you hated the federal government and imperialism, and now here you are cheering for it.
01:07:58.000I'm just, I'm so impressed with your willingness to finally see the light and step away from this.
01:08:03.000And they don't know you're being sarcastic.
01:08:42.000But these people got so wrapped up in media propaganda, they went insane.
01:08:46.000Which brings me- They were probably already insane.
01:08:48.000Like, being re-radicalized is easy if you live in hate.
01:08:51.000Like, if they hated the government and wanted to tear it down without, like, a new creation system that they had in plan, then it's easy to take those people and re-divert their hate towards something else.
01:09:01.000Like, the media pushed us towards Trump.
01:09:02.000They tried so much, so then they just used the hate.
01:09:09.000What you need to keep in mind about the left is that while many of these leftists that I'm talking about are my age, a lot of the support they get are from people who are 20 who don't know anything about this.
01:09:19.000They were 10 years old during Occupy Wall Street.
01:09:49.000I'm like, so when Joe Biden takes over overseeing the Iraq war, and then all of a sudden his brother starts getting the contracts, not suspicious to you.
01:11:27.000It's like the first step towards stabilizing the region.
01:11:29.000Yeah, but you had to buy a bunch of F-35s for the UAE in order to get them to do it.
01:11:34.000And the real purpose of it is not generating peace.
01:11:38.000And these guys have all been working together with the Israelis all along anyway, unofficially.
01:11:43.000What it really is, is they're selling out the Palestinians.
01:11:45.000Because the Palestinian, the deal had always been that these Arab states would not normalize relations with Israel until they gave the Palestinians an independent state or equal rights within Israel.
01:12:20.000Well, Mohammed Atta crashed Flight 11 into the North Tower as revenge for what the Israelis were doing in Palestine and in Lebanon, which took this whole damn terror war off.
01:12:30.000It's an argument for us to not be involved.
01:12:31.000It's an argument for us absolutely to not be involved, but the thing is we are involved.
01:12:36.000backs everything that the Israelis do, and always have.
01:12:39.000I, I, you know, I, I mentioned this when, you know, Cassandra came on the show, uh, came on the show, Cassandra Fairbank, she's very anti-war, and she was like, you're gonna hear a lot of propaganda about why China's doing this, that, or otherwise, and we should not go to war, it's none of our business.
01:12:50.000And I'm like, you know, it's, I, I don't really have an argument for that, it's like, are we gonna get involved in every single conflict?
01:12:56.000So for me, it's like, what can we do to remove ourselves from these situations to a greater degree?
01:13:02.000As soon as Biden gets in, the funding for both sides to various degrees resumes and conflict lights back up.
01:13:09.000And that's good for imperialism and for the United States.
01:13:12.000It's an excuse now to put more military into the Middle East.
01:13:46.000And get our troops out and be done with it.
01:13:48.000I think you're conflating separate things together.
01:13:50.000Him trying to get out of Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan is one thing.
01:13:54.000His Israel policy was absolutely horrible and made everything that much worse.
01:13:59.000He recognized Israel's absolutely illegal seizure of the Golan Heights and their illegal annexation of it in 1981 and said, just on a whim, I recognize it officially now, it's fine.
01:14:10.000Then he moved the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which is an important symbolic move, meaning that America now recognizes all of Jerusalem as a single unified city under Jewish control, when the law says that East Jerusalem is illegally occupied by the Israelis.
01:14:30.000And Trump just said, well, screw that.
01:14:32.000And what that did was it negated even the possibility of there being an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital.
01:14:39.000And it also raises the very important question of whether Jewish extremists are going to destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque and rebuild the Third Temple and start sacrificing animals and start World War III.
01:14:50.000I think Trump didn't care at all about any of it.
01:14:53.000Well, he cared about Sheldon Adelson giving him money for the Republican Party.
01:16:02.000I don't know everything about all these conflicts.
01:16:05.000Well, take a look at what they did with Morocco for this Abraham Accord.
01:16:08.000They call them all the Abraham Accords.
01:16:10.000I think it's originally only Bahrain and UAE, but then you lump in Sudan and Morocco.
01:16:15.000Well, Morocco has been illegal occupying the northern part of Western Sahara for like 20 years, and Trump went, eh, go ahead, you can have it.
01:16:23.000So this is the liberal rules-based world order that America is supposedly enforcing.
01:17:19.000Trying to withdraw our troops and they lied to keep them in place.
01:17:23.000True, but he also deliberately escalated the war in Afghanistan.
01:17:27.000He deliberately escalated the war in Syria until they finished Iraq War 3 against the Islamic State there, but escalated the war in Somalia.
01:17:36.000And he took, wherever there's the war in Yemen and the war in Somalia, he made official areas of active hostilities, which under the law means that now the military and the CIA can kill far more people than in more restrictive circumstances where it's covert action only.
01:17:55.000Massive increase in airstrikes, drones and planes in Afghanistan and Somalia and Yemen.
01:18:01.000And he delegated the battlefield authority for the right to call in a strike as far down the chain of command as he possibly could.
01:18:09.000Because when he came in, there were all these checkboxes that Obama and his lawyers had added, and they killed tens of thousands of people with their drone war, but they had added all these bureaucratic checkboxes.
01:18:20.000But Trump was raised on the myth of Vietnam, and H.W.
01:18:23.000Bush talked about this during Iraq War One as well as, this was, I don't know if you're familiar with this, but this was a big deal when I was growing up, that Lyndon Johnson tied the hands of the generals behind their back.
01:18:33.000nitpicking and pouring over the map in the White House and picking the targets himself and controlling the policy.
01:18:40.000And if he hadn't done that, then the generals would have just done the right thing.
01:18:44.000So Trump said, that's never going to happen to me.
01:18:47.000No one is ever going to say that I didn't let the military have carte blanche to do whatever they think is right in whatever area.
01:18:55.000And so when he came in, he said, I want out of Afghanistan.
01:19:54.000He obviously could not trust McMaster and Mattis, but he couldn't trust Bannon either.
01:20:01.000I forget if this is in Fire and Fury or Fear by Woodward, one or the other of those.
01:20:05.000I don't necessarily trust the guy, but... Well, no, but it's horse's mouth stuff, so it's like, when Mattis tells Woodward, and that's when I said, don't do what the president said, you can pretty much believe that, you know what I mean?
01:20:44.000And so it was Bannon that sold out Trump on Afghanistan just three months into the thing.
01:20:49.000And then they got rid of him by, what, July?
01:20:52.000And then in August they announced the big escalation.
01:20:54.000And then, you know, there's a story in the Post, this also comes from Mattis straight out of the horse's mouth, that in the Washington Post that Trump complained, why are we in Somalia?
01:21:42.000Instead of saying, actually, I do have a choice.
01:21:45.000You're the one who doesn't have a choice, Mr. Secretary.
01:21:48.000He said, okay, fine, escalate the war.
01:21:50.000What do I care if they kill another couple of 10,000 Somalis?
01:21:54.000Trump should have, for one, fired a lot of morons, not hired a lot of morons, and he should have just done... Why didn't he just go on public TV and say, this is the plan, we're doing it?
01:22:04.000Look, I mean, the truth is, it's because he doesn't read.
01:22:07.000If he knew anything at all, Tim, he would have gone to Cato, and he would have gone to the national interest, and he would have said, I want all of the most credentialed anti-war right-wingers that you guys can line up for me, let's do this.
01:22:21.000Honestly, if Trump in the first three months says, out, out, out, but he was too busy surrounding himself by bad people and special interests.
01:22:28.000And he was too busy complaining about his crowd size at his inauguration and every other stupid thing that didn't matter at all.
01:22:34.000And selling weapons to Saudi Arabia to fund the Yemen genocide, basically.
01:23:04.000And if he'd done that, it also would have been absolutely brilliant politics throwing a nuclear hand grenade into the Democratic Party and making the liberals attack him from the right for ending wars and convincing the leftists that they never hated liberals so much.
01:23:23.000They were claiming that Trump was, you know, leaving was irresponsible and it was a gift to these dictators and to ISIS, and clearly trying to negotiate peace was just him appeasing dictators and all that stuff.
01:24:49.000So, they say, Federal Reserve Banks in Atlanta, Boston, Minneapolis recently dedicated resources to social policy, reflecting the political leaning of officials who are neither elected nor confirmed by the Senate.
01:25:00.000The Federal Reserve's mission statement mandates the central bank to achieve maximum employment and stable prices while being free from political influence.
01:25:08.000Experience has shown that countries with independent central banks achieve better outcomes.
01:25:12.000Pursuing a highly politicized social agenda unrelated to monetary policy is inflicting reputational damage on the Minneapolis, Atlanta, and Boston Fed banks and the Federal Reserve as a whole.
01:25:23.000The first thing I'm scared of, but hold on there's some good news here, is that The Fed is the machine by which they control things and extract resources.
01:25:31.000Getting woke just means creepy dogmatic authoritarianism.
01:25:32.000taxes on people, printing money, borrowing money, and then your savings become worthless
01:25:36.000and then they can use it to fund war and other things like that.
01:25:38.000Getting woke just means creepy dogmatic authoritarianism.
01:26:02.000So it may be scary what happens when the Federal Reserve starts instituting policy at a very massive level, but at the same time, what if the Fed gets woke and goes broke?
01:26:14.000I don't know if the Federal Reserve Board could be any worse at their job, frankly.
01:26:20.000And these guys have caused nothing but booms and busts and catastrophes, artificial booms and very real busts.
01:26:32.000I'll never forget that in Northwest Austin, they had built entire neighborhoods and entire shopping malls, but it was just the roads and the foundations.
01:26:43.000And then it stayed like that for 10 years.
01:26:45.000It was another 10 years before they built Lake Line Mall.
01:26:48.000And we used to just go out there and camp and get drunk.
01:26:52.000Dude, I love it when you find those old slabs.
01:26:55.000Just like pre-constructed buildings that are left for a long time and just play around.
01:26:58.000And it was just like that for something like 10 years.
01:27:00.000And then we all lived through the dot-com massive crash at the end of the Bill Clinton years, where instead of cashing our peace dividend and bringing the troops home, instead they printed a bunch of money, inflated the money supply.
01:27:12.000See, here's the thing about inflation, too, is, as you say, It's hidden taxation, right?
01:27:26.000The worst of it is that you get massive price inflation in certain sectors like housing, stocks, fuel.
01:27:36.000That's what's happening again right now.
01:27:38.000So after the dot-com crash, Of 2000, they kept inflating housing, and they just poured more and more and more money into housing to prevent that recession from really kicking in.
01:27:49.000And then we had the massive crash of 08 that brought the whole dang world down with it.
01:27:55.000QE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and just did nothing but expand the money supply, inflate, inflate, inflate, and just as Rothbard teaches, They always try to somehow like prick the bubble and slowly let the air out.
01:28:09.000And in fact, though, what happened this time was we were due for a crash last year, this year, sometime here real soon.
01:28:15.000But what happened was the governors, Donald Trump and the governors, did it for us and forced the recession, not through high interest rates, but just by forcing the clampdown, the lockdown on the entire economy.
01:28:25.000And so that meant all kinds of bad debts were being cancelled off of bank books, right?
01:28:29.000It's massively deflationary to have, in other words, it was a deliberately imposed depression or recession on the economy.
01:28:38.000So then where does that leave us right now?
01:28:40.000With the lockdowns just being lifted, a massive increase in the money supply.
01:28:45.000That means we're right back where we were in the year 2000-2001, right back where we were in the year 2009, just at the start of the next big bubble.
01:28:57.000Unless you're trying to afford a place to live and you can't, which is why I don't I don't know about around here, but in Austin, Texas, there has never been a homeless crisis like there is right now.
01:29:35.000I see from a lot of leftists, they're like, haha, surprise surprise, nobody wants to work at fast food unless they're getting paid a living wage.
01:29:59.000What people don't see is the same problems affecting steel mills.
01:30:02.000The same problem is affecting Uh, mining raw materials.
01:30:07.000So while we can laugh that you can't buy your Popeye's chicken sandwich because nobody wants to work there, has anyone actually looked at the raw materials that aren't getting produced because the same problem is happening?
01:30:16.000Or the farming that's not getting done because the same problem is happening?
01:30:19.000You got a farmer and he's like, I need someone to work the fields, to collect the crops, to pick the certain vegetables, and it's like...
01:32:28.000Monero you can't track, I think Zcash you can't track.
01:32:31.000No, no, no, Zcash has, I think I could be wrong about this, but it has shadowed, shadow accounts and visible accounts, so it works both ways.
01:32:38.000You can choose to, like a maxed account or a non.
01:32:42.000And look, this is what Frederick Hayek said, was rather than having... I think Murray Rothbard wanted 100%, you know, by law, 100% gold reserve standard.
01:32:51.000And Hayek just said, let there be competing currencies.
01:32:54.000I think this is the Ron Paul position.
01:32:55.000Just what you do is you have to repeal the legal tender laws and you have to repeal the taxes on different alternative currencies, right?
01:33:03.000Because if you're taxing capital gains on silver and bitcoins and everything, that makes it impossible to use as a currency, really.
01:33:10.000Especially if you inflate the dollar and cause the cost of silver to go up double and then tax them on that increase, even though the value didn't increase.
01:33:21.000They just printed twice the amount of money, so it looks like it.
01:33:24.000And then you lose a fourth of your money because they printed twice as much.
01:33:32.000I have to tell you the bad news is I talked with Robert Higgs, and this conversation is probably 10 years old now or more, but Robert Higgs is the great libertarian economist that wrote Crisis and Leviathan, and he's like, listen man, forget the petrodollar.
01:33:47.000Forget, you know, any of the different kind of answers for why people are so dependent on the dollar.
01:33:53.000They're dependent on the dollar because they have been.
01:33:55.000The dollar's been the world reserve currency since the end of World War II and it's going to stay that way for a very long time because what it would take to stop that would be for every central banker in the world to wake up one day and realize that all those hundred dollar bills in their bank vault are worth nothing and try to panic and sell them all at the same time.
01:34:16.000But they're all painted into a corner.
01:34:18.000If any of them ever do that, then they're the one precipitating the crisis and making it worse, and they're not going to be able to get rid of the money before they lose it.
01:34:28.000What if all of these bankers are sitting there with $100 in their bank account, and then they're like, I don't want to be the one to sell because it'll cause my money to start losing value, so I won't be able to sell fast enough.
01:34:38.000And then Joe Biden yells out, churning out a shabbit of pressure and starts printing money like crazy.
01:34:43.000Then they're going to be like, well, he's already doing it, so dump the dollar.
01:34:46.000People are going to want to get out before it hits because he's already tanking it.
01:35:16.000I'm not really sure how much evidence there is that that was really the French's worry.
01:35:22.000I think Sarkozy was really worried that it was embarrassing to him that he had stood by Ben Ali in Tunisia all the way up until he was forced to flee at the very start of the Arab Spring.
01:35:36.000And so he had a public relations problem and he was going to take it out on Gaddafi.
01:35:40.000And then Gaddafi had also spent a bunch of money on Sarkozy's election campaign.
01:35:45.000So then he had the same problem John McCain and Joe Lieberman had with Gaddafi was they had sucked up to him and been too nice to him recently.
01:35:52.000And so now that he was a hate figure again, they had to turn on him again.
01:35:55.000Well, we can thank the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton for absolutely destroying North Africa.
01:36:01.000And look, there was just a piece the other day about the ISIS Sharia Islamist state in northern Mali, which is a direct consequence of the war in Libya.
01:36:43.000I mean he warns her that they're rounding up and murdering blacks just for being black on the false accusation that they're mercenaries and this is in like April.
01:36:50.000They kept the war going another eight months after that.
01:36:53.000They could have called it off at any time.
01:36:54.000Obama Forbade Hillary working at all with Sidney Blumenthal. I
01:36:57.000thought he was bad news and Hillary was like, okay And then just kept working with him anyway, and he would
01:37:01.000send her battle tactics emails like you need to invade Libya when we get there
01:37:06.000We'll set up my company Osprey global solutions to fund the the revolutionaries
01:37:12.000You know, basically the American backed new military Hillary's like, okay, she just passes it on to her military
01:37:17.000advisor. That's that's the game It's disgusting. It's it's
01:37:20.000It's called arms running, war profiteering.
01:37:50.000And thank you to everybody and all the Super Chats for your opinions.
01:37:54.000Go to TimCast.com, become a member, because we're going to have a members-only segment coming up after the show at TimCast.com, where we say the things that YouTube doesn't like us saying, and we swear a whole lot.
01:38:13.000I'll make some riffs, I'll jam on the guitar, and then whatever the music sounds like in terms of feel, I envision in my mind, like a world, I imagine a scenario, and then I write a story, I visualize a story, and then I write the words to describe what that story is.
01:38:31.000I turn on a video camera and then I start writing, playing chords together.
01:40:04.000She goes, this is a lady who locked people up by the thousands for smoking pot.
01:40:08.000And then when she was asked about it, she laughed.
01:40:11.000And this is a lady who hid evidence That a guy on death row was innocent and tried to keep him on death row until finally the courts just intervened and forced her to give up.
01:40:42.000Tulsi Gabbard called out Kamala Harris keeping people in prison beyond their sentences to use as slave labor to put out fires in California.
01:41:50.000So Taylor points out, she's like, who has all of this money sitting around to just buy a house like this?
01:41:56.000And of course, being from the New York Times, a lot of the responses were from the traditional establishment left liberal perspective, where it's like, well, it's all rich people and investors who are only able to buy homes.
01:42:06.000And you'd get a little bit mixed in there where someone's like, I bought a home with like only a few percent down.
01:44:22.000Which, you know, when you mentioned earlier about how the idea was, we send Milton Friedman over there to teach Deng Xiaoping about capitalism, that they'll end up adopting a more of a libertarian social policy as well.
01:44:34.000And, you know, it's easy to just say, well, that didn't come true.
01:44:38.000But I always like to start with my blame in Washington, D.C.
01:44:43.000to me like if at the end of the Cold War we'd elected Ron Paul in 88 when he ran
01:44:48.000and we'd elected Harry Brown in 96 to see us through the end of the 20th
01:44:52.000century and into the 21st and we had renounced world empire and Harry Brown
01:44:57.000just spent every day giving the world his Statue of Liberty speech not killing
01:45:02.000them but constantly lecturing them on not being free enough and not doing
01:45:06.000enough to protect human liberty Now, I think we'd be living in an entirely different world in the Muslim world and in China and everywhere else.
01:45:13.000I think the true American creed of individualism and liberty out of our Declaration of Independence would have a lot more purchase.
01:45:21.000But instead, America is the most corrupt Government on the face of the earth.
01:45:27.000It's soaking in the blood of something like 2 million dead people from the last 20 years and for nothing.
01:45:34.000Attacking countries that never attacked us, never threatened us.
01:45:39.000So if you look at places like, say, Pakistan, where they'll stone you to death for converting to Christianity.
01:45:46.000Well, we're not really in any position to criticize them for that because you know what's the worst thing about Pakistan?
01:45:55.000Okay, and so, how can we say to them, you guys aren't doing liberty right, when we're not doing liberty right, and we're supposed to be the standard bearers?
01:46:03.000Do you know what the Mandela effect is?
01:46:05.000You know what the Mandela effect is, right?
01:46:07.000So, for those that aren't familiar, it started because some people were convinced that they heard news reports that Nelson Mandela died in prison, yet he didn't, and then he was alive, and so people are like, what is this?
01:46:19.000And so, a lot of people then believe that they've accidentally jumped timelines.
01:46:23.000Can we just, you know, everybody right now just wish, wish it's possible so we can jump to the timeline where Ron Paul won in 2008?
01:46:41.000One of the ones that really solidified that whole theory, the Mandela thing, I remember listening to this on Art Bell driving my cab around, and they were like, yeah, you know what?
01:46:49.000Also, I remember the Soviets went to the moon.
01:46:59.000Where they're on the moon at the beginning and they gotta rush in.
01:47:02.000And that's really what it likely is, but I want to point out something.
01:47:06.000Look, I remember the Ron Paul era, and I didn't agree with a lot of his moral positions, but I did agree with him saying no, and leave me alone, and leave everyone to their own devices, and I was like, I'll take the guy who says he's gonna leave me alone.
01:47:21.000Because we can disagree on everything, but then he agrees to leave me alone.
01:48:41.000Yeah, you know, there was an article in the Washington Post that said war is good for the economy and war is great and all this.
01:48:49.000It was obviously a completely amoral take, but what he was saying had some truth to it in the sense that he was arguing that the larger the conquest, The more peace and security within that conquest, the better it is for that population.
01:49:06.000So, for example, there hasn't been a major outbreak of war in the space between Canada and Mexico since the 1860s.
01:49:15.000And we've had this, you know, largely territorial monopoly on violence.
01:49:20.000And they finished killing off all the Indians after the end of the Civil War.
01:49:25.000But once they finished with the Indian Wars, we have essentially had peace and stability through this entire continent that was won through warfare.
01:49:33.000And that this has really been good for the American people.
01:49:36.000Overall, in an amoral sense at least, just in a financial sense, and in the growth of American power.
01:49:42.000But the thing of it is, where he, the guy that wrote the article where he's making the invidious conflation, is he's comparing the size of the territory controlled by any given government with the size of the government.
01:49:58.000And having a giant war and having a massive government that has this total control, when in fact you could have an extremely minimal federal government in Washington D.C., say for example, just enough to keep the peace between Texas and Louisiana, but nothing more than that, then that would really be, you know, all other things being equal.
01:50:22.000I was thinking that what we would need to do is, you know, at the height of these tensions around the world, you know, the Russia, the North Korea, the China stuff, we need to generate a fake alien invasion that unifies all the countries against it.
01:50:37.000Now, the biggest problem we're facing is that Dr. Manhattan can see into the future.
01:50:41.000So we'll need to do some tachyon research to cloud his vision, in which case then we'll actually be able to get away with it.
01:50:58.000We could promise to negotiate a final peace deal to end the Korean War, which we have only a ceasefire left over from 1952.
01:51:06.000We could open up all trade relations with them, we could send Dennis Rodman and all of his friends, and all of our best and worst bands, and whatever, and just, we have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to give.
01:51:23.000Dylan Keller says, Stop bringing CCP shills on the show, LMAO, although I guess it works out for you since it gets dummies like me to super chat.
01:52:12.000They know if they come on this show and they're like 25, I'm 35, I don't know everything, but I have 10 years more experience watching all this political stuff, they'll get trounced.
01:52:20.000They'll say something about, like, some socialist policy, and then I'll bring up something where, like, it happened, it didn't work, and they'll be like, I don't know what that is.
01:52:25.000So they don't want to come on the show.
01:52:26.000I'd love to have conflicting opinions.
01:52:28.000We try to get as many people with different opinions as possible.
01:52:32.000But it is true that whenever there's disagreeableness or passion, people super chat a lot more.
01:52:39.000Which by the way, the government of China, I don't think anybody argues whether it's a totalitarian dictatorship or whether the people there are free or not.
01:52:46.000The question is whether we should fight them or not.
01:52:48.000The question is whether we should believe all the propaganda that's told about them in order to try to get us amped up to fight.
01:53:18.000And the Tenth Amendment Center does such good work.
01:53:21.000And because they're libertarians, they tell leftists, oh, you don't like nullification because that reminds you of the Civil War or something like that.
01:53:30.000Well, what do you think sanctuary cities for immigrants are?
01:53:33.000And what do you think legalized pot is?
01:53:35.000That's nullification and interposition straight out of the Virginia and Kentucky resolutions.
01:53:39.000And then he says to the right-wingers, he goes, listen, you guys might not like sanctuary cities and legalized pot, but it's working.
01:53:47.000So this is what you need to do with guns.
01:53:50.000How are you going to stop federal gun control?
01:54:03.000But what happens if one of these jurisdictions, everybody just says they're gonna buy up NFA items, the ATF doesn't have the ability to go after that.
01:54:09.000So, prohibition doesn't work, the federal government is not that strong, it's only through confidence in their power that people, you know, abide by this stuff.
01:54:16.000That being said, becomes a really interesting point for how YouTube would function.
01:54:21.000If West Virginia says it's legal, the federal government says it isn't, What do you, who's the right in that regard? Because the
01:54:28.000states are sovereign, you know, the federal government, it's a federation. It does, you
01:54:32.000know, it is supposed to supersede, but then is California wrong? Can we say California is wrong
01:54:40.000I mean, look, they have the supremacy clause, but that doesn't mean that
01:54:43.000unconstitutional federal laws override state laws, only constitutional ones.
01:54:48.000And so now the courts are always going to almost always side with the feds.
01:54:52.000But if you remember back in the 1990s, there's this guy, Sheriff Mack, sued under the Tenth Amendment against the, it wasn't the Second Amendment, he used the Tenth Amendment to sue over the background checks, because it was essentially an unfunded federal mandate to the states that they had to do these background checks and pay for them all.
01:55:12.000And he said this is a violation of the 10th Amendment and the Supreme Court upheld it and struck down the background checks on that.
01:55:18.000All right, let's read a little bit more.
01:55:20.000We got Daniel Maxwell says China is fighting an economic war against the United States while trying also to keep the United States ignorant of that fact.
01:55:33.000They keep selling us microphones at reasonable prices?
01:55:35.000It means that they can have their people work in unsavory circumstances with the point of mass suicide to undercut the market, making it cheaper and more lucrative for American greedy interests to just send the factories overseas at the expense of the American worker.
01:55:53.000That sounds like a war between American big business and American workers, and the Chinese are just the useful tool of the Americans.
01:56:00.000Well, the Chinese view it as, you know, we're in this for the long haul.
01:56:04.000Let's extract as much value from that system and enrich ourselves.
01:56:08.000And it means to them, make the people essentially sacrifice.
01:57:15.000Yeah, if they're gonna buy anything, they're gonna try to buy, you know, influence in very small areas where they can make some money mining or something.
01:57:23.000But there's no real security in Afghanistan.
01:57:26.000Do you know that one of the reasons we have a housing crisis is that China will come in and offer insane amounts of money to people selling?
01:57:31.000So, somebody's got a house, it's worth 300k, they'll be like, I'm gonna sell it for 300, and then a working class family says, I can afford that, and then the Chinese investor says, I'll give you 400 on the spot.
01:57:41.000I'd like to know more about the Chinese role in inflating American housing prices.
01:57:47.000I mean, right now in Austin, where I'm from, you have hundreds and hundreds, thousands even, of houses being bought up at a time by Wall Street hedge funds.
01:58:44.000We got Sergeant Hodl says, Hey Tim, let's all help out Project Veritas for free.
01:58:49.000Shockingly, the Woke Amazon Smile program has Veritas available as a charitable organization, and a portion of all your purchases get donated to them.
01:58:58.000Yeah, Veritas posted the clip from the show where I said James needs to get corrective surgery for his back because he has too many spines or his spine is too big.
01:59:31.000Don't talk about things you know so little about.
01:59:35.000Read Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War by Pat Buchanan.
01:59:38.000We weren't defending Poland from anything.
01:59:41.000Poland belonged to the Communists until 1989.
01:59:43.000The British never put one soldier on the ground in Poland to kick the Nazis out.
01:59:50.000The whole thing was a giant blunder, and it was Winston Churchill himself who said at the end of the war, Ah, jeez, I guess I really shouldn't have done that, huh?
02:00:12.000You know why I've always said, like, my politics are actually, like, kind of left-of-center libertarian, but I would vote for, like, among candidates, like a Ron Paul.
02:00:21.000I think it was Ron Paul who said, no one is stopping, a paraphrase, if you want to have a socialist commune in the United States, no one's stopping you.
02:00:38.000I might lean left because that means I won't have a farm with a bunch of hippies on it who share their watermelons and we don't want to compete.
02:00:44.000But if you want to have an ANCAP or a more libertarian right thing, you go do your thing, I'll do my thing.
02:00:53.000And you know, in Austin, when I grew up, there was a hippie commune out east of town out in Bastrop called the Zendik Farm, and they had a mini ramp out there.
02:01:01.000So me and my friend John went out to skate the mini ramp.
02:01:03.000That's probably the last time I could do ollie blunts.
02:01:53.000You know, we all share all the resources for everybody.
02:01:56.000The kids do the chores because it's what they're able to do, but they get food regardless.
02:01:59.000And, yes, when you are just five people, it's very, very easy to have friends who work together and say, you know, I'm gonna go do the dishes.
02:04:54.000Sol Invictus says, my local news channel could not report on overnight shootings without saying it in such a way that it made it sound like a 17-year-old shot a 90-year-old.
02:05:01.000In reality, they were two separate victims.
02:05:04.000Yeah, today at George Floyd Square, the no-go zone, there was a news reporter was giving his speech or whatever and then gunshots started ringing out like crazy.
02:05:17.000I'm looking at the story and I'm like, that's a no-go zone.
02:05:19.000No-go zones are defined as areas where normal governance has ceased, the police, medical can't go there or are scared to go there, regular people can't enter or can enter with only great risk, and I'm like, that clearly defines all of these autonomous zones.
02:05:35.000There's, like, people being shot and killed.
02:05:37.000And the people who have written about the George Floyd Square, it's not some, like, anarchist utopia.
02:06:37.000I mixed up AZT with another one then or something, because I know that the story in the 80s was he was suppressing the drugs in order to boost research into the vaccine.
02:07:05.000So the Mises Caucus is a radical new young faction of the Libertarian Party led by a guy named Michael Heiss and it's basically the Ron Paul revolution has decided to join the LP.
02:07:15.000See there's been a real problem with the Libertarian Party because back in the 1980s the Rothbard faction and the Cato faction all fought so badly they both left.
02:07:26.000And they essentially just left kind of a husk of an LP behind.
02:07:30.000And there's been, no offense to long-term LP people out there, I'm not trying to fight you, but there's been this dichotomy where you have the people who sit around reading and caring about this stuff, and then you have the people who work together in the party networking and doing the work and collecting the petitions and staying on the ballot and things.
02:07:47.000But those people don't read and don't know what the hell is going on and they're not mad as hell about it.
02:07:53.000And so you get a lot of stuff like, geez, it'd be better if taxes were lower and, you know, wars are bad.
02:08:11.000But this is the new invention, is the Mises caucus are guys who are principled and radical and actually care a lot about what's going on in the country now.
02:08:20.000So they could talk about libertarianism in a way that's not just abstraction, like, hey, we should be like Switzerland, neutral.
02:08:26.000But we need to come home from Afghanistan today.
02:09:54.000These people were conquered 54 years ago.
02:09:58.000They live in a concentration camp under the total and complete control Israel. So it's not a sovereign state with Hamas attacking
02:10:07.000and starting a war and the Israelis defending themselves that's not it at all
02:10:11.000and there's essentially very few places in the Gaza Strip you could
02:10:14.000place artillery or rockets or anything where it's not close to somebody else.
02:10:20.000Now you want to talk about human shields just type in Israeli soldiers human
02:10:24.000shields and there they tie a little kid to the to the or no they tie a grown man
02:10:29.000to the front of their Jeep and drove around with him in 2014 use him as a
02:10:34.000human shield and then there's a picture of a
02:10:37.000A little boy, probably 13, 14 years old, who for hours, the IDF made him walk in front of them and go in first when they kicked in doors and all these things.
02:10:47.000Literally using him as a human shield.
02:11:10.000It was reported in 2014 that reporters for the Associated Press said... Yeah, but that reporter was full of it, and the Associated Press repudiated his claims then.
02:11:17.000There was no evidence for that whatsoever.
02:12:10.000You also have to know that they are your enemy, and they hate your guts, and they lie to you most of the time, and they have an agenda.
02:12:16.000At the same time, they have real resources and important reporters who get important stories, so you have to sift and sift and It's the same problem when I see videos in New York of a Palestinian activist chasing a Jewish man down the street, or a Jewish guy getting beaten and attacked, or a woman getting an explosive thrown at her by these pro-Palestinian groups, and then I see them telling me that they're defending themselves.
02:12:39.000So I understand that's not the same thing as Palestine.
02:12:41.000But I see these videos coming out of activist groups that are very much... I enter this thing as like, I was not alive when this thing started.
02:12:49.000And I see videos where I'm like, they're both claiming the same things about each other.
02:12:53.000Which one am I supposed to just decide is correct or right or wrong?
02:13:43.000But I think, I mean, if there was like a kind of covert sort of secret reason why they wanted to kill the boy, it was because he knew too much about his father.
02:13:51.000Because he was certainly not a terrorist.
02:13:53.000He went there to find his father and bring him home.
02:13:57.000But he had to have known that he had been an FBI informant in the past and things like that.
02:14:03.000I mean, honestly, the Occam's razor explanation is they just didn't give a damn.
02:14:06.000They were killing the guy that he was with and he was there.
02:14:09.000Now, what's interesting, really interesting, is the, I forget if it was Delta or the SEALs, I think it was the SEALs, shot and killed Alaki's daughter.
02:14:51.000But, man, what an awful note to leave the show on, huh?
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