James O'Keefe joins us on the show to talk about why Greta Thunberg burned an effigy, gets an activist arrested for sedition, and much, much more. We also have a special guest, Luke Hradowski of WeAreChange.org.
00:00:33.000I think it may have something to do with the title, which is Greta Thunberg burned an effigy, gets activist arrested for sedition with our guest, James O'Keefe.
00:00:43.000And no matter what I did, it didn't work.
00:00:46.000I changed the title to YouTube is giving us the business and won't let us stream.
00:00:51.000And all of a sudden, streaming worked.
00:00:53.000So it's funny, a lot of people in the chat were saying, I wonder if this is a stream that gets Tim banned because we're having James O'Keefe on the show.
00:01:01.000And talking about Greta Thunberg, for those that don't know the story, she accidentally tweeted out an activist toolkit.
00:01:07.000And now activists in India are freaking out saying she's essentially interfering in their politics and burning images of her, burning her own effigy.
00:01:16.000And we also have James O'Keefe because he's got a story he's breaking about Mark Zuckerberg and some leaked videos.
00:01:21.000So I wonder if the reason the stream wasn't working because his name was in the title, I guess?
00:01:26.000I have no idea, but it was really strange because it kept... this overlay would appear that said live stream is not available, and you could click try again or finish.
00:01:34.000If you clicked finish, it would take you out of the streaming studio and then just put you back in regular YouTube.
00:03:38.000Yes, they are burning effigies of Greta Thunberg in India.
00:03:42.000I never thought I would get to say that.
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00:07:07.000It was like snowing the past several weekends.
00:08:58.000So when you have Greta Thunberg putting out this toolkit where it's basically telling people what to say or how to say it, how to protect yourself and things like that, a lot of people view that as nefarious.
00:09:07.000So now you have, well, Greta Thunberg leaked this.
00:09:12.000Thunberg became embroiled in allegations of an international criminal conspiracy against India after she tweeted a toolkit for people who wanted to show support for the farmers.
00:09:22.000So there's a big farmer protest going on right now.
00:09:24.000The document included campaigning tips, such as suggested hashtags and advice on how to sign petitions.
00:09:30.000Though not named in the police case that was filed, Thunberg's tweet was said to have brought the Delhi police's attention to the existence of the toolkit.
00:09:38.000Leaders in the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party said the toolkit was evidence of international plans for attacks against India.
00:09:46.000Now, I'm just going to say this because I know a lot of people are like, whoa, Greta Thunberg is caught.
00:09:50.000I don't think it's that big of a deal.
00:09:52.000Like, if you say like, hey, here's the message we're using, here's the hashtags we're using, and you're telling someone how to get active, I don't think that's that big of a deal.
00:10:00.000But I do think it's interesting the way Delhi is handling it.
00:10:02.000They're basically saying international, you know, foreign celebrities interfering in our politics ain't gonna have none of that.
00:10:08.000So Greta Thunberg, they're just burning images of her in effigy, but here's actually the big news.
00:10:43.000They say Disha Ravi, 22, could face up to life in prison following her arrest Sunday in connection to the online document, which calls for organized support for India's deadly farmers protests.
00:10:54.000Ravi, a leader of the Indian arm of Thunberg's Fridays for Future Protest movement, is being investigated for possible sedition, a charge that carries a penalty of life imprisonment, a police source told Reuters.
00:11:04.000Well, you know, look, I just heard a lot from Democrats about the dangers of insurrection and sedition.
00:11:10.000And, you know, they say these people should be locked up.
00:12:14.000And this makes a lot of sense as to why the left is getting involved and saying, support the farmers.
00:12:19.000Because the farmers want a guaranteed minimum government intervention over the work they're doing, and the new laws would be more, I guess, capitalist.
00:12:27.000According to CNN, they'd be allowed to sell whatever they grow to whoever wants it.
00:12:32.000Whereas right now, the government guarantees a set minimum price, and only certain people are allowed to bid on these crops.
00:12:50.000Well, I don't think anyone should ever be arrested for posting anything online, especially when it comes to activist toolkits.
00:12:58.000But when you look at the larger kind of international efforts, especially by massively funded PR campaigns, there's a lot of ties between intelligence agencies and also The supposed popular uprisings that usually work in the benefit of American geopolitics, like we saw in Ukraine, Syria, and Libya, that were very organized, that did have talking points, hashtags, and also the coordination of the media that pushed for a certain agenda and was able to get it because of these larger disinformation efforts.
00:13:28.000And if you study things like the economic hitman, you see these efforts... Confessions of an economic hitman.
00:13:39.000When you look at the kind of ways that they push for unrest in order to get their way, it really makes you think, what's really going on here?
00:13:48.000And we have seen a lot of pressure on India by individuals like Bill Gates that are criticizing India.
00:13:54.000Also, just recently, their manufacturing plants.
00:13:56.000So, you know, there is something to wonder here about what's happening on a global scale, whether it's a conspiracy or not.
00:14:02.000We do not know, but I still think it's an overreaction for India to arrest a person for sharing this, and it's only going to hurt them in the long run.
00:14:10.000I was in India before, I got some wild stories there.
00:14:13.000I actually landed in India when they did a currency reset, and the whole country went in panic.
00:14:45.000It was also weird to see ATMs segregated for local Indians and tourists.
00:14:50.000And the tourists were literally sleeping outside.
00:14:53.000The Indians lines were even way longer because people didn't have any money, didn't have any cash.
00:14:57.000Oh, because they reset the currency and it was something different.
00:14:59.000They got rid of a large swap of currency because the government wanted all the accounting.
00:15:04.000Because a lot of people, because it's such a cash-driven country, a lot of people have their money figuratively underneath the mattress.
00:15:12.000The government was like, you're not paying taxes on that.
00:15:14.000So we're just going to make all of these bills illegal.
00:15:16.000You're going to have to give Give them to us so we could see exactly how much you have, so we could get you the accurate amount of money that you owe the government.
00:16:03.000But they're using archaic weapons like clubs and sticks and nails and barbed wire on baseball bats.
00:16:10.000Literally of what they're using fighting each other because they have this weird peace treaty where they can't use Firearms against each other and they can't use live ammunition against each other But they could beat the crap out of each other which they do, but I've heard recently within the last few days.
00:16:24.000They actually Settled previous conflicts that were arising just two weeks ago, and they're at a stalemate now So they're at a position where there's more peace now than there was just two weeks ago Here's the crazy thing about the toolkit that gets released you have to ask yourself who makes these things Who spends the time to develop an activist guide for protesting?
00:16:45.000And you mentioned this, Luke, you've got intelligence agencies.
00:16:48.000You think about what's going on with China and India and the conflict on the border, plus, I mean, you have, like, what, Pakistan, like, Kashmir, all that stuff.
00:16:56.000So there's good reason for any adversary of India or us to create that conflict.
00:17:02.000So when you have international interests spreading information that can destabilize a country, what did the United States say about it?
00:17:10.000When we had, what was it like, a handful of Facebook pages with almost no followers created by Russia.
00:17:27.000Now, what would happen if Russia was disseminating pamphlets, booklets, toolkits, telling people how to bypass arrest, how to win in the legal system, how to protest, how to hashtag, how to spread the ideology and win?
00:18:29.000I kind of feel bad for Greta Thunberg because she's just a kid.
00:18:33.000The things she's called for in terms of abandoning fossil fuels, outright banning fossil fuels in the next year or whatever, not even the issue like now, we want it now, it'd just kill millions of people.
00:18:41.000Look at what's happening in Texas with these windmills freezing and the gas lines freezing.
00:18:45.000We need to make sure we can get the electricity running.
00:18:47.000Already, we can see what happens when you do not have the sufficient electrical equipment, weathering, etc.
00:18:56.000I know a lot of people are blaming the wind turbines for freezing, but everything basically froze.
00:19:00.000Nobody thought this was going to happen.
00:19:01.000Yeah, 15 states are having power outages.
00:19:03.000There's 4.4 million people that went without power in Texas.
00:19:06.000The National Guard had to be deployed.
00:19:08.000And there's a huge argument now happening whether it's the kind of free energy or whether it's the fuels that are, you know, that- Right, right, right, right.
00:19:16.000But just the basic point with Greta Thunberg I'm trying to make is she doesn't understand the things she's advocating for are going to kill millions.
00:19:25.000From getting rid of the fossil fuels, fine.
00:19:27.000But if, look, If riots, protests, and mass protests, mass civil unrest sweeps India because the people of India are challenging their legal system, okay then.
00:19:38.000We want to make sure people stay safe.
00:19:39.000We don't want a collapse that results in mass death.
00:19:42.000We want people to do the right thing, and we don't want fighting in the streets.
00:19:47.000Greta Thunberg doesn't understand what destabilization or collapse really means, and I don't think she... I don't think... I mean, I guess she would care if she knew, but I don't think she knows.
00:19:55.000I don't think she realizes what it means for someone of her profile to be having these conversations.
00:20:00.000Apparently, there were, like, some leaked messages as well, where she's saying, like, oh, these hate campaigns, they happen.
00:20:05.000It's like, dude, the hate campaigns are happening because you're interfering in a foreign country's politics, and you have massive clout that's getting tons of attention.
00:20:16.000and spreading this artificial, you know, external ideology inside the country.
00:20:20.000It's no surprise people are protesting her.
00:20:24.000They're calling it an international criminal conspiracy, man.
00:20:27.000A lot of eyes are on India, and I think we're going to be hearing about India a lot more, especially in the near future, especially with their very strategic, very important position in the world, because as China is going to be expanding their influence, they're going to also be propping up Pakistan.
00:20:46.000And when you look at India, I mean, they have a vast emerging middle class that speaks English, that is ready to help, even by some estimates, even by some experts, be the next hegemonic world power, even over China, because they are in a better position than China on the world map, comparatively as well.
00:21:06.000So India is going to be a very key, crucial place to sway your influence in, especially in the not so distant future.
00:21:13.000And it's not a surprise that this is happening to me, in my opinion.
00:21:16.000I got mixed feelings about what this is all about, this farmer protest.
00:21:20.000Now, I'm trying to figure it out, too, so maybe we can clarify.
00:21:23.000It sounds like what they're doing is, right now, if a big multi-corporate farming industry in India wanted to sell bare-bottom prices and outmatch all the local farmers, they could sell their corn for $3, and the government would have to step in, Tim, can you clarify this?
00:21:52.000If Monsanto wanted to sell $3 corn and the farmer was like, I can't afford to sell my corn for $3, they're putting me out of business, okay, the government would say, okay, you can sell your corn for $10, we'll subsidize seven of it, and then it'll go for $3 to the market.
00:22:04.000Maybe that sounds like what is going on right now, but they want to change it so that Government gets out of the way and corporates can sell whatever, but the danger is that Monsanto could undercut these local farmers.
00:22:20.000We don't know exactly the limits of this law.
00:22:23.000It's a foreign country and I can't tell you.
00:22:25.000I can only tell you that CNN said right now the current system is a government minimum guarantee for crops versus a sell-to-anyone-at-any-price model.
00:22:33.000The sell-to-anyone model could be dangerous because if you have Monsanto over there and they want to sell $3 corn and the local farmers can't afford it, it'll bankrupt local farmers.
00:22:41.000So that's why government is in there to help subsidize local farmers.
00:22:48.000It's never this simple and we just don't know.
00:22:50.000And ultimately, maybe it doesn't even matter what it is.
00:22:52.000It's just that there's foreign nationals influence.
00:22:55.000But I mean, that's the name of the game right now.
00:23:11.000I find it hilarious that we have so many Gen Z memes, where it's like, there was one where it's from the Incredibles, where, you know, have you guys seen the Incredibles?
00:23:21.000So basically, like, superheroes are outlawed, and then, like, this Mr. Incredible is now an insurance, you know, adjuster or whatever.
00:23:27.000And it said, like, me, it was like a meme, it's like me working in an office, you know, getting paid for, you know, for an unfulfilling existence or something.
00:23:34.000And I'm like, yeah, people want meaningful jobs.
00:23:36.000They want to make things to be proud of.
00:23:38.000But all of those are being shipped away.
00:24:22.000And Ian, surprisingly, also very interestingly, India's Supreme Court just a few years ago ruled that Monsanto seeds couldn't be patented in the country.
00:24:32.000So there's there's, you know, a lot of interesting news surrounding India, especially a lot of media figures now saying that they're very surprised that India dealt with the coronavirus a lot better than any other country.
00:24:43.000But of course, that's not a surprise to us, especially after talking to Chris Martinson and Peak Prosperity, why they did so well.
00:25:19.000We just broke a story on Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Facebook, on a covertly recorded taking an anti-vaccine stance in violation of his own policy at Facebook.
00:25:31.000So that's very interesting and a lot to talk about there, Tim.
00:25:35.000Well, do you want to talk about it, or do you want to tell us why you had to charter a plane, or what's going on?
00:26:40.000She shared this activist toolkit and now protesters are burning her effigy because they view her as an international entity who's fueling these deadly protests that are happening in India.
00:26:53.000So the title of the video was Greta Thunberg burned an effigy and activist is charged with sedition with James O'Keefe.
00:27:09.000And so we had to go back and recreate.
00:27:12.000So, so for those that aren't familiar, you have to like, you, you click start a stream and then it gives you the title, all that, you know, timing and everything.
00:27:18.000We fill out the forms, we click to go and then it worked and we're like, okay, thank you.
00:28:47.000I was saying that whoever these people in San Francisco or wherever they are, like, you know, shadow boosting, banning, censoring, they're worried because they're thinking there might be a whistleblower who's watching this Who might record us banning and censoring, so maybe they're deterred from doing it too, like the psychological deterrent effect.
00:29:06.000So we just broke a story, Mark Zuckerberg on the hidden camera, or he's covertly recorded on one of his staff calls, taking this anti-COVID vaccine stance in violation of Facebook's own policy.
00:29:18.000Zuckerberg says, my understanding, this is a quote from Zuckerberg now, not me, my understanding is that these vaccines Wow.
00:29:25.000uh... modify d n a and or an a now face because the policy implemented recently you're not
00:29:31.000allowed to say that so i was thinking would be meet quoting zuckerberg dick
00:29:49.000He said on this show, he was like, Donald Trump gave, I'm not even going to quote what Jack said because they've, they've come after us for it.
00:29:56.000He basically said Donald Trump's, Jack Murphy said that Donald Trump said something about voter fraud and they use that and accused us as a show of making those claims.
00:30:56.000But Tim, you know, Twitter has permanently suspended Project Veritas' Twitter account.
00:31:03.000The official comment that Twitter gave CNN reporter Brian Fung of CNN Business is they said that we have published people's private information.
00:31:14.000Twitter did not say that I'm misinformation or fake news.
00:32:37.000It sounds like it wasn't so much that you guys got busted for doxing, but that it was the who you were doxing, because wasn't it somebody that was high profile?
00:32:44.000So this is a little nuanced, but I think it's important that we take your audience through the facts because I think it's important because I think Twitter has crossed a Rubicon here that they have not previously crossed.
00:32:53.000I mean, look at the Hunter Biden stuff, man.
00:32:55.000They suppressed a very relevant news story to help someone win a presidential election.
00:33:00.000That is true. I mean these people are evil man. That is true. So what happened here was
00:33:04.000We I don't know if you've ever experienced this but when you are flagged Twitter gave us the option
00:33:11.000It said you can simply get your account reinstated at Project Veritas by deleting this tweet
00:33:15.000They want us to delete the tweet the video of my reporter Guy Rosen.
00:33:19.000Hartsock with a camera and a flag mic. You could see the flag mic, there's no
00:33:23.000hidden camera recording here, in a street on a sidewalk outside the house of
00:33:28.000Facebook vice president. Was this public property? What was his name? Guy Rosen.
00:33:33.000Was this public property? This was a public street, a residential street, and
00:33:37.000his residence. And we're following the lead of CNN.
00:33:41.000CNN goes and door stops people, local TV news.
00:33:44.000So Christian Hartzog asks Guy Rosen for comment.
00:33:47.000This is maybe the biggest public policy story of our lives.
00:33:50.000We're not confronting a private citizen.
00:34:07.000And usually when you appeal, that takes a week or two to do.
00:34:10.000And then in the middle of the day, Twitter got bombarded with phone calls by the New York Times, CNN and everyone else, and Twitter changed their minds.
00:35:11.000So what they do is a real journalist is going to email someone and say, you know, a story
00:35:16.000came out and, you know, actually I got to say this.
00:35:20.000There's literally no news in finding out that someone has a bank account and then emailing
00:35:24.000the bank and saying, why does this person have a bank account?
00:35:27.000We know why people have bank accounts what they do is they contact the bank they that the email then says something like this individual has been accused of being a white supremacist and Why do you support white supremacy?
00:36:02.000You, James, are one of the, I think Veritas is one of the very few actual news organizations Look, I think there's a lot of news outlets and there's a lot of good journalists and they work hard and they do well, but you look at how awful things have gotten with these major corporate news outlets.
00:36:17.000There's no risk to the establishment, to the corporate powers, to the special interests from CNN or The New York Times.
00:36:25.000But it's like you were saying, these people are looking over their shoulders, not knowing who is going to hold them accountable by either recording their unethical behaviors and exposing them doing wrong.
00:36:38.000They don't know who that's going to be.
00:36:41.000Getting rid of you will make their lives very difficult.
00:36:43.000Well, I think there's a psychological, like I say, right now, as I speak, if there are coders, engineers, wherever they may be, Silicon Valley, when they do whatever they do that's unethical or at least dishonest, I know they're private companies, they can do whatever they want constitutionally, but there's that little thought inside their head, like the jury on your shoulder, sort of worried, deterred, maybe someone's observing me do this thing.
00:37:05.000But what's most interesting about this situation that Project Veritas was permanently suspended was Twitter changed their mind, Tim, just as you said, once they got bombarded with all that pressure from New York Times and CNN being like, what's the deal?
00:37:17.000Are they suspended permanently or not?
00:37:19.000And someone high up at Twitter said, nope.
00:37:24.000And that shows me that the Washington Post and the New York Times and CNN actually have tremendous power.
00:37:30.000And Jeff Bezos, who is whatever he is, a trillionaire, billionaire, trillion dollar market cap, one of the wealthiest men in the history of the world, is most proud of his ownership of that woke clickbait rag Washington Post.
00:37:43.000That's his crowning achievement in life.
00:37:46.000I actually am not one of those people who say, these companies, CNN has tremendous power to get Twitter to change their mind by making a phone call.
00:38:14.000July 5th 2017 where they knowingly went after someone because of that famous gift that Donald Trump
00:38:22.000tweeted and they said Publicly apologize right now or we're going to docks. They
00:38:28.000said promise never to do it again Exactly. Otherwise, we'll release your pride and this is
00:38:32.000the organization that's spearheading the censorship movement that never gets called out for their
00:38:37.000Baseless well areas for their fake news and their lies Even the New York Times, yesterday we were talking about a specific story where the New York Times was caught fabricating the story about the fire extinguisher killing and beating to death this Capitol Police officer.
00:38:52.000Or at the very least getting burned by their sources and refusing to correct until a month later.
00:38:57.000And then now today, they also have another article that's titled, unfettered conversations are taking place on Clubhouse, talking about how it's dangerous, this new kind of platform that's rising in popularity because they don't know how to deal with harassment, misinformation, and quote, privacy.
00:39:15.000Can I point out the beautiful irony of, was it Anna Cabrera, I think you said?
00:39:29.000By the way, we were going to get our lawyer, we could always just sue CNN, we've sued the New York Times, we'll talk about that in a minute, but I've got two statements from CNN in front of me right now.
00:39:38.000One is from Brian Fung, CNN Business, who's actually a pretty nice, I think he's a serious reporter.
00:39:43.000And he says that Veritas was suspended for, quote, threats of sharing other people's private information.
00:40:09.000Quote, a conservative actionist, activist organization, at least that's how they couch themselves.
00:40:17.000I have never in my life referred to myself as a conservative activist, not once I was swear to it under oath in a defamation lawsuit against CNN, unless they retract that.
00:40:27.000And then she goes on, quote, This is a much broader crackdown by social giants on accounts promoting misinformation.
00:40:35.000So our General Counsel has just sent a letter to David Vigilante today.
00:40:40.000I have the letter in front of me, signed.
00:41:34.000Discovery, depositions, interrogatories, they are required to answer my questions.
00:41:40.000When I confront Dean Baquet in the street in Los Angeles, that's the executive editor of the New York Times, he just ran away and laughed maniacally.
00:41:47.000But when the judge says, no, you have to answer Project Veritas' questions, why did you intentionally lie about James O'Keefe?
00:41:54.000We have so many lawsuits, Tim, I just think we're going to start suing people.
00:42:31.000Just get a big fund and then track when... You know, the issue is there are a lot of people now who are finding themselves in the public sphere who have small careers as personalities, pundits, and journalists.
00:42:44.000They can't go up against the New York Times.
00:42:46.000Small individual, maybe there's a journalist who's got 70,000 Twitter followers and they're making, you know, 30 to 50k a year off of being an independent journalist.
00:42:53.000Well, Tim, do you think these people, do you think it's psychologically too, people want to be liked by the New York Times or want their book reviewed?
00:43:24.000You have people right now that don't want to challenge the machine, no matter how evil or wrong it may be, no matter how much they oppress and harm the working class, the little guy, the individual.
00:43:34.000They want to be a part of the machine.
00:43:36.000They want to be the one hazing the other person, not the one getting hazed.
00:43:40.000So when you look at the unfettered power the New York Times or CNN has to destroy lives, why would anyone choose to be on the other end of that?
00:43:48.000I mean, it's a legitimate question and I think the same psychological effect has on people.
00:43:53.000I've noticed it since Project Veritas has been banned.
00:43:57.000I don't want to share Project Veritas because I might be banned.
00:44:48.000It'll be videos from maybe me or Steven Crowder, or maybe people like Kyle Kalinske, depending on your politics, or Jimmy Dore.
00:44:53.000But then you'll see this special mainstream media carousel, and it's all 10% thumbs up, 5%, just overwhelmingly rejected by the users of YouTube.
00:45:03.000But YouTube, desperate for the approval of CNN, the New York Times, ABC, etc., drop to their knees and beg CNN to like them.
00:45:13.000I think it's fair to say, as you were mentioning James there, that the mainstream media and social media companies definitely share the same activist toolkits as some people would say.
00:45:23.000I think this is the bigger story here, the legal aspect of it, because if you remember, not so long ago, CNN had to settle with the Covington kids.
00:47:15.000So I actually came to this epiphany in the last week or two.
00:47:18.000We just need to start suing the shit out of them.
00:47:22.000When you have a case, when you have a case for defamation, when you get past motion to dismiss, that's when people start settling lawsuits.
00:47:31.000You're not going to settle though, are you?
00:48:30.000We will never pass over an opportunity to mention that a CNN host on TV ate human brain, and it's still on YouTube right now on numerous channels.
00:48:40.000Recommended and promoted while alternative independent media gets screwed over because the mainstream media giants always get promoted in the algorithms no matter what.
00:48:48.000And they get caught so many times with their pants down lying to the American public, whether through their sources, whether unknowingly or knowingly, we don't know until we have this discovery.
00:48:58.000The people watching this, and obviously every comment I see is, what are you going to do about it?
00:49:02.000I mean, people are just tired of complaining.
00:49:04.000So I think a solution, this is a solution.
00:49:57.000But the question, do you think that I should take the money or go all the way to a jury verdict?
00:50:01.000I think what you should do, if I could recommend something, is you cover your costs, but then you take the money out of it and you create it and you put it in this fund where you protect other people.
00:50:13.000When you protect the Redditors and the memers that CNN keeps going after, or the grandma that they door-stopped, you help those individuals in a fund after recouping some of your initial costs.
00:50:38.000They came to you and they said they're going to give you everything you want.
00:50:41.000So it may be great to get a jury victory, but that's only if they fight you all the way.
00:50:46.000I gotta say, we covered this story the other day a couple times, you know, as the story has been emerging.
00:50:51.000The officer in the Capitol riots, New York Times put out fake information.
00:50:55.000The next day, and I missed this, because I trust the New York Times, it was reported in Houston, the officer died of an unrelated stroke.
00:51:02.000The New York Times didn't change the article until a month and a week or so later.
00:51:07.000So I don't think the New York Times, they're going to resist.
00:51:11.000I think they're going to resist as much as possible any kind of admitting fault.
00:51:16.000But I'll tell you this, man, if you get the New York Times to, you know, issue a full retraction apology, they've done that before for you, haven't they?
00:53:56.000It's basically discord for private corporations.
00:53:59.000I have seen these people say things that would get them in very, very serious trouble.
00:54:04.000I have had, there's one particular instance I cite over and over again about a very prominent individual who now works for the New York Times, who basically told me, hey, we engage in unethical behavior, so don't report on other people doing the same kind of unethical behavior.
00:54:18.000If a story broke, and they got sued, and that chat was released in Discovery, the company would be, their credibility would be gone forever.
00:54:34.000You do a motion to dismiss, you pass this motion to dismiss, that's when these companies start settling lawsuits, like in the case of Nick Covington, or Nick from the Covington- Sandman.
00:54:45.000Once you get past motion to dismiss, then the company has realized you are headed towards discovery.
00:54:50.000A deposition is where they videotape me.
00:54:54.000For 12 hours, I'm under oath, and the lawyers pepper me with questions.
00:54:58.000They look at your emails, they get everything related to the litigation, so I can open up the New York Times' emails, I can look at every communication.
00:55:06.000It's against the law for them to delete emails about me.
00:55:09.000They have to preserve their records about me.
00:55:12.000And I get, and by the way, a deposition, nobody likes it.
00:56:19.000When you do discovery, you start pulling from the emails.
00:56:22.000If you find like different infractions of this guy said defamed you, this guy defamed you, this guy defamed you, do they then become separate?
00:56:51.000And then under oath, Maggie Astor changed her tune.
00:56:55.000under oath she already printed a retracto in the motion she already changed the fact she said no no many of the people are named so under oath they changed their tune well so that's that's that's that's a that's a retraction that's a victory for you that's a victory already they've now admitted the the facts are different from what they've proposed already admitted she knows she knows She knows it, and the judge knows it, and the jury knows it.
00:57:19.000I'm telling you, this is the People's Litigation Defense Fund, Tim.
00:57:32.000And they lie about, they said that you were spreading false information on Twitter.
00:57:36.000Well, this is what they did to me when I got invited to the White House.
00:57:38.000So, me and Bill, and you were there as well.
00:57:41.000When we got invited to the White House, The Today Show showed my picture and claimed that I was a proponent of the Seth Rich conspiracy theory.
00:57:51.000Because what happened was, Fox News reported definitively—it was Fox Business, I believe—information about the Seth Rich conspiracy theory.
00:57:59.000I then read that and said, wow, well, I don't believe it's entirely true, but we'll see what happens.
00:58:05.000Because I read a story that was later retracted, they ignore all of the context around the fact that it was retracted, that I came out when it was retracted and said, wow, the story was fake the whole time, who'd have thought?
00:58:14.000But simply by reading a story that later got retracted, they claimed I was pushing a conspiracy theory.
00:59:11.000And he says that there's always a little kernel of truth in their disinformation, and they always go back to that little... It's mostly untrue, but there's some weird, like you just said, little factoid, and that's how they do it.
00:59:30.000Saying things like, you know, James O'Keefe, they'll say, James O'Keefe pushed the conspiracy theory that Antifa was responsible for the Capitol riots.
01:00:04.000Once it makes it through a few sources, it'll be, James O'Keefe asked a question about X. Then someone else copies that and says, according to source A, James O'Keefe was implying that X was true.
01:00:18.000And then the third source says James O'Keefe said X, then Wikipedia takes it, runs it,
01:00:23.000James O'Keefe believes in, you know, space dinosaurs.
01:00:25.000It's like a game of telephone. And again, the further it goes, the crazier it gets.
01:00:30.000And people don't understand this because they don't see themselves doing this. But people need
01:00:33.000to understand the levels of depravity, the amount of lies, the amount of selective editing that goes
01:00:40.000into a lot of these mainstream media pieces. When they have an agenda, when they have something that
01:00:44.000they want to push, they will do everything in their power.
01:00:47.000They will stoop to levels that are unimaginable just to get that agenda through. Well, the
01:00:51.000editing thing, that's what I say in our videos, it's a form of psychological projection. This
01:00:56.000is that what, you know, I'm not a psychologist, but this is projection. They just
01:01:00.000quite literally accuse their enemy of doing. And we're not like that. You and I are, that's not
01:01:06.000how we operate. We're fairly ethical people. We're pretty honest people, pretty down to earth
01:01:57.000They railroad people, and I think back in the New York Times' case, that article about our Minnesota video was the night of the presidential debate.
01:02:06.000They had a researcher lined up from Stanford.
01:02:09.000It wasn't Stanford University, it's some other Stanford, some unknown research group called Stanford.
01:03:04.000Quote, I share some caution on this vaccine because we, and this is Mark Zuckerberg saying this, just don't know the long term, and again, Mark Zuckerberg, side effects of basically, and again, this is from Mark Zuckerberg's quote, modifying people's DNA, Mark Zuckerberg here, and RNA.
01:03:19.000No, no, I have to do that because- They'll selectively edit you.
01:03:54.000At the time, but recently Facebook announced that they are, quote, expanding their efforts to remove false claims on Facebook about the vaccine.
01:04:03.000So Mark Zuckerberg makes the statement in July where he's essentially violating Facebook's own policy.
01:04:10.000And the question is, I guess Mark Zuckerberg's thinking has evolved on the vaccine.
01:04:16.000And it's a little bit strange because he's now just instituted this policy prohibiting What he was saying a few months ago.
01:04:25.000Well, I think it's fair to say people's opinions change.
01:04:29.000And Mark Zuckerberg was clearly wrong in this.
01:04:32.000The mRNA, it essentially, it doesn't change your DNA.
01:04:36.000It just configures certain cells to produce the spike protein.
01:04:39.000And then when those cells die off, that's it.
01:04:56.000The real issue here, as you can see, and we were talking about this earlier, Zuckerberg is afforded the right to pontificate on things that were widely considered to be conspiracy theories at the time.
01:05:06.000Whereas if I said the same thing, I would have been annihilated in the media.
01:05:09.000He's telling his own staffers this stuff.
01:06:46.000But suddenly now Mark Zuckerberg has changed the policy.
01:06:52.000You're not allowed to even pontificate about the vaccine.
01:06:55.000Doesn't that seem a little capricious to you?
01:06:57.000I think it's good that he finally realized he was wrong.
01:07:01.000I think this is actually included in your report that he did a public conversation with Dr. Fauci.
01:07:05.000And here's what I love about this, because I texted you when I saw this, and I was like, well, look, I'd get it if he changed his opinion.
01:07:11.000You guys fully included the dates of when he said it, the date of when he had a change of opinion, you're not hiding the fact that, and I think it's fair to point out that sometimes people's opinions change, and good for Mark Zuckerberg on realizing he was wrong.
01:07:21.000The issue is, if it's wrong to say it now, we knew it was wrong to say it, you know, back in July when he was telling his employees this.
01:07:28.000The point is, Why was the rule just implemented?
01:07:31.000Why was Mark Zuckerberg allowed to push insane conspiracy theories to a massive company, Facebook?
01:07:38.000I guess the idea is if we're gonna live under this rule about disinformation, you can clearly see that Mark Zuckerberg shares disinformation, and then it only changes when he realizes he was spreading disinformation.
01:07:49.000In many ways, and this Nick Clegg, the vice president of Facebook, is admitting as much in a leaked tape, one of these leaked tapes, We're kind of having to come up with these rules.
01:10:14.000AOC's story about the Capitol took place a full hour and ten minutes before the building had been breached.
01:10:21.000So I think it is fair to have the opinion she exaggerated.
01:10:24.000Why then is Snopes given the ability to slap a warning label on my posts?
01:10:30.000Which is, in my opinion, definitely- They didn't actually do that to me, I'm just saying.
01:10:33.000On your or anyone else's posts, Snopes can now put their opinion over your opinion.
01:10:38.000If we're supposed to be living by a standard to stop disinformation, I think what we've now realized from, you know, the video you've put out just now, this is the context I think you need to make sure people understand.
01:11:10.000People need to understand these companies just, OK, now we're going to create a rule this week saying you're not allowed to talk about this.
01:11:41.000It's more powerful than if the United States Supreme Court were to cast a decision tomorrow saying you are not allowed to talk about red delicious apples.
01:11:56.000This is Facebook announced last week a new rule that said, quote, We are expanding efforts to remove false claims on Facebook and Instagram about COVID vaccines and vaccines in general.
01:12:10.000So I wonder, you know it'd be really funny if like one day, Mark Zuckerberg just like, he meets somebody who has this epiphany and he becomes this crazy fruitarian who thinks meat is wrong.
01:12:51.000And suddenly he had a change of heart.
01:12:53.000I mean, so I think that Facebook is more powerful than the United States Supreme Court.
01:12:58.000In fact, these tech companies are more powerful than all three branches of government.
01:13:01.000So when they make a rule change that says you can't talk about something, It's as if the United States Supreme Court made a change about, codified the United States Constitution.
01:13:12.000Give me the ability to control what people say, and I care not who makes the laws.
01:13:16.000Well, the thing is, okay, this is the big debate.
01:16:04.000I think you're talking about transparency.
01:16:09.000I mean, these platforms, they have the ability to amplify certain voices while excluding others.
01:16:15.000It's a product of scale economies, and their power comes from squeezing out alternative platforms While fueling this virality and and I think I mean I agree with you on one hand I think it's about transparency I I'm I'm biased Veritas my mission I believe in it if we just expose how they do what they do you're talking about like
01:18:47.000And Twitter says, This claim of election fraud is disputed and this tweet can't be replied to, retweeted, or liked due to a risk of violence.
01:19:20.000And now we're at a phase where Instagram just announced a few days ago that they're going to be going and snooping through your DMs, your private messages, looking for hate speech to go after.
01:19:33.000I know, but them publicly announcing it, them saying and being so emboldened by it is new.
01:19:39.000We have to acknowledge the reality that these platforms are, I think we've all been talking about this, They have a form of concentrated political power akin to basically a loaded gun on the table.
01:19:50.000They swing elections, they sway elections, so what do we do about it, right?
01:20:18.000Last time I was on the show, the mailman from Pennsylvania, Erie, Pennsylvania, sent us an email after watching your show and blew the whistle on the Postal Service Well, that's all you, man.
01:20:33.000I mean, we're just a bunch of people who sit around talking about stuff on the internet.
01:20:36.000But for whatever reason, he watches your show more than any other show, and he came to VeritasTips at ProtonMail.com.
01:20:49.000Hopefully the NSA is not intercepting that email.
01:20:53.000And that Richard came to us and Richard lost his job, Tim.
01:20:57.000Richard was fired from the Postal Service.
01:21:00.000First he was suspended, then he was fired.
01:21:01.000By the way, I think that's important because he has skin in the game.
01:21:06.000He's an actual person who is going to lose his career for the public's right to know something.
01:21:12.000He's not just saying something, he's giving up his livelihood.
01:21:16.000Here's why I say what you do is so important, and actually why what Richard and others have done is even more important.
01:21:22.000I mean, for one, you can't do your job unless there's brave people willing to stand up and work with you to get that information out.
01:21:28.000More importantly, those brave people who are standing up are creating this atmosphere where these big shots, these fat cats, these corrupt individuals now have to keep looking over their shoulders wondering, who's going to say, you can't do that?
01:21:39.000I'm essentially going to blow the whistle.
01:21:41.000It's like you were mentioning earlier, people at Facebook now have to worry, who's the person there who's going to share what they're saying?
01:21:47.000Luke, when they go to look at DMs, which is unconscionable and unethical for someone to browse private DMs, in the back of that, whatever, engineer coder's mind is, wait, before I look at the DM, should I be worried if someone's looking at me?
01:22:05.000Exactly and this is why they don't have any transparency or accountability to their actions because if they did people would know what they can and cannot say.
01:22:14.000They don't want you knowing it because they want this fear effect.
01:22:17.000They want this chilling effect where you have to worry about your butt and and worry about what you're thinking about because when you're when you're censoring words you're censoring what people can think essentially and we also have to understand on the bigger point here these are not private capitalistic entrepreneurship organizations.
01:22:33.000You look at the seed funding, look where they came from, look right now at their tax incentives, the visa programs,
01:22:38.000their data sharing surveillance programs, the government contracts that they receive.
01:22:42.000These are entities that are in line with a lot of government
01:22:45.000institutions that are working hand in hand together.
01:22:48.000In many ways, government is downstream from these institutions.
01:22:50.000I was thinking as we were talking that there could be some software developer that's like, I'm going to blow the whistle on Facebook.
01:22:57.000I'm going to deliver all the code to Project Veritas.
01:22:58.000entities that are private companies pick and choose they're not they're not that
01:23:02.000at all they are monopolies at least that's a great observation I was
01:23:05.000thinking as we were talking that there could be some software developer that's
01:23:08.000like I'm gonna blow the whistle on Facebook I'm gonna deliver all the code
01:23:11.000to project Veritas that wouldn't work because unless we use the government to
01:23:15.000regulate these people and to actually change the software license and do it
01:23:20.000right you could get rid of the code and they can just change it
01:23:23.000So we have to acknowledge that these guys are basically quasi-government organizations and should be treated such.
01:23:31.000Yeah, well, for the time being, I mean, things are demoralizing.
01:23:37.000I don't want to leave Twitter, but when I see the way they're treating you, like, this ridiculous... Well, I can tell you right now there's someone watching this who does work for Twitter or Google or Facebook, I guarantee it.
01:23:47.000And we have so many sources and whistleblowers coming to us right now, it's beyond what you can fathom.
01:23:52.000I mean, we have untold dozens, over a hundred whistleblowers right now, recording, watching.
01:23:59.000I'm talking about the CEOs of these companies.
01:24:01.000And if you're watching this right now, just like Richard Hopkins a few months ago, send us a note.
01:24:46.000All the government, just like Alexander Solzhenitsyn said, the media has more power than all three branches of the government.
01:24:54.000And what laws are they beholden to when they say, you are not allowed to talk about this or that?
01:25:01.000It is akin to the United States Supreme Court changing the Constitution and saying, Except when you talk about, you know, applesauce.
01:25:10.000You wanna know something really crazy that I was reading?
01:25:13.000Guys, definitely, if you're listening, fact check me on this one.
01:25:15.000I was reading some post, it was a conservative post of this, that Trump's own lawyer in the impeachment trial believed the Very Fine People hoax up until he had to research the evidence to defend Donald Trump, then realized the media had been selectively editing what Trump had said, and Trump definitively denounced white supremacy after Charlottesville.
01:25:36.000And well, the media cuts it out of context, like they did with the Shinzo Abe fish feeding thing.
01:25:41.000And this lawyer didn't know that about Trump until he was investigating because he had to go over the evidence.
01:25:47.000How many people think they're informed because they read the news?
01:25:51.000They read what Facebook allows to be shared.
01:25:54.000And they actually are just being fed garbage.
01:25:56.000The amount of fake news, disinformation, and propaganda out there is absolutely insane to even fathom sometimes.
01:26:05.000It's like 1984, 2 plus 2 equals 5 is just keep being repeated.
01:26:08.000You know that's a real thing though, right?
01:26:14.000But James, the one question I really wanted to ask you here, when you got hit by Twitter, was there any alternative social media platform that you were looking into fully transitioning away from Twitter?
01:26:23.000So I take a unique position on this because I may take a stance that Tim, you don't agree with, or Luke, you don't agree with.
01:28:48.000I bring that up just because, in the instance of Twitter, Well, they can't ban everybody, because then they're gonna have to issue a report saying, we lost X many users this quarter, oh, we banned them because we didn't like what they had to say.
01:28:59.000Yeah, and they can't ban us today, because if they ban us for the Zuckerberg story, every reporter that talks about it will have to say, there's no doxxing here, it's Zuckerberg on tape.
01:29:08.000You know what the problem is right now, though?
01:29:24.000But I thought it would be funny when Trump would tweet something really silly, you know, like, not that he should have most of the time, but sometimes he would tweet funny and silly things.
01:29:47.000They're getting rid of anything that's even remotely interesting on the platform.
01:29:50.000And if they ban us today for publishing a videotape of Zuckerberg, every reporter who reports on the ban will have to include the facts about what Mark Zuckerberg said.
01:30:36.000I think the reason people haven't done this is because they don't know they can do it, and it takes, I call it, balls, resources, and willpower.
01:31:14.000But if you launched any one of these other fundraisers, you'd instantly raise enough to just hire an executive manager or whatever to run the fund.
01:31:23.000Listen, I'm going to say it on your show right now.
01:31:25.000If we get the New York Times to give us money, which I'm betting my reputation on it, so it's going to happen.
01:31:31.000We're going to use some of those proceeds to start this idea that you have.
01:31:41.000But another thing, I mean, I remember starting off when I was still just, you know, no one, not a big reputation, getting slandered and attacked by the mainstream media.
01:31:50.000And also other instances where they literally took my videos that I did, my live reporting on protest, and they claimed it as theirs.
01:32:11.000That was the New York Times perspective.
01:32:13.000And that was actually, you know, fair reporting on their part, which is really interesting because they actually quoted me correctly when other news organizations literally took quotes out of context, put them together to make them sound bad, or as if I was pushing for some kind of violent action, which I, of course, never was.
01:32:57.000Yeah, we were talking about this yesterday with Will, because even with that New York Times weapons of mass destruction lie, there is still some kind of understanding that the New York Times tries to tell the story.
01:33:10.000And even then, when they got caught with the WMDs, they admitted it, they talked about it, there were some repercussions behind it.
01:33:18.000Yeah, they faced some real actions because of that.
01:33:23.000Still, not enough comparatively to the lie that they sold the American public and the hundreds of thousands of people that died in the radicalization and immigration crisis that came out of it, but still not enough.
01:33:33.000But there was still this kind of veil understanding that they're trying, that they made a mistake, that they're going to do their best.
01:33:41.000They even interviewed me a couple times and they did honest, real reporting, but now all of that's gone.
01:33:46.000That whole perception, that whole understanding that they're not even trying anymore.
01:33:50.000They're blatantly slapping the American people upside the face.
01:33:55.000They're obsessing about all this other stuff that divide and conquers us so we fight each other and we don't focus on the real issues, the actual things that do affect us, especially after 2012.
01:34:05.000Their decline is evident and they're not the same New York Times that they're known for.
01:34:09.000Let's jump to Super Chats, and, you know, normally I like to read as many as possible, but I'm gonna try and find as many questions for James as possible, you know, because a lot of the comments are just general, you know, comments on stories, and forgive me if you guys- I will read a bunch of Super Chats, don't get me wrong, but I think it's a good opportunity for people to get questions in for James if they haven't had the chance to.
01:34:29.000I'll start with one of the most important.
01:34:31.000Aurora Isabella says, this is a statement, James O'Keefe is hot AF.
01:37:58.000We put the name of our guests in the title of the show so people know.
01:38:02.000Because often, you know, when we have, say, Jack Murphy or Will or, you know, or James O'Keefe, there are a lot of people who maybe wouldn't normally watch the show but want to see this particular perspective.
01:38:11.000When we tried to stream with your name in it, it didn't work.
01:38:15.000When I changed the title, removing your name, it worked.
01:38:17.000Now the title is, YouTube is giving us the business, won't let us stream.
01:38:21.000A lot of people are clicking to see what's going on, and they're going, oh, whoa, it's James!
01:39:01.000Well, when we know they actively censor conservatives, when they literally just censored, suspended Project Veritas on Twitter for ridiculous BS reasons, and we know they did, and then I tried to have James on the show with his name in the title, and it doesn't work!
01:39:15.000I think it's simpler to say glitches happen though, but they only, they, they happen like, come on, man.
01:39:22.000At a certain point, it, there are more assumptions and it just so happens that James is being censored at the exact same time.
01:39:28.000They're not letting our stream go live.
01:39:29.000I'd get messages like these glitches only happen when it's me doing it, but you know how many people are having that experience?
01:44:14.000Robert Bettle says he who controls the feed controls the world. I propose forcing by law the algorithm to be open
01:44:21.000source and the choice of which algorithm and third-party filter service be moved to the end user.
01:44:26.000I think it's a it gets really I don't know but esoteric when when when talking about the code and the source and
01:44:33.000how we deal with that and that's one of the challenges.
01:44:36.000They rely on this not only opaque system, but even if they did release the code, most people are gonna look at it and say, I have no idea what that is.
01:44:43.000See, I have a different perspective a little bit than you.
01:44:45.000I think the solution is for the CEO or the Vice President of these companies to come out and say...
01:45:21.000And he was under oath in Congress, and he said, you know, Congressman Smith, I targeted Tim Pool's podcast, and here's the code showing me doing it because I hate Tim Pool, I want to destroy James O'Keefe, and I want to elect Democrats.
01:45:44.000Because if, if, if you rely on the CEO to do the right thing and reveal themselves, they're going to sell the company.
01:45:50.000And then you're going to have to rely on another human and another human, and that's allows for corruption to breed.
01:45:56.000I just think the system should be transparent and not even open source, but free software like GPL general public license or the MIT license.
01:46:04.000So that if changes are made to it, those changes are also free and open.
01:46:08.000The challenge, James, with what you were saying about the guy saying, like, here's the code, is that they're not going to say that.
01:46:34.000I know it gets brought up so often, but the Joe Rogan episode with me, Joe, when Jack didn't understand, when I told him to his face, your rules are biased against conservatives.
01:46:48.000He said, we don't ban people for being conservative for their political opinions.
01:46:51.000I said, yes you do, because your rules are biased against conservatives.
01:46:54.000So this is from the Orwell book, 1984, where their cognitive dissonance is to such a degree where they've actually convinced themselves not to actually internalize or think of the word doublethink because in doing so, they're admitting they're tampering with reality.
01:47:08.000So you're saying psychologically, even when they tuck themselves under the covers at night, they don't individually and personally think that they're helping Democrats?
01:47:18.000So in the instance of Jack Dorsey, it was a really fascinating revelation when I told him You have a policy against misgendering people.
01:47:26.000To conservative Americans, of which half the country, or a little bit more, a little bit less, they believe that if someone is born biologically male, you must use he, him pronouns.
01:47:36.000Whereas the left believes it's based on identity.
01:48:23.000That's out of the manual, the Emanuel Goldstein manual that George Orwell hypothesized, which is that it's to believe that black is white and then to change your mind and never to have previously thought that black is white.
01:48:37.000And you can't even talk about doublethink.
01:48:40.000It's a strange psychosis then, Tim, if what you're saying is true.
01:48:45.000I think there's a substantial minority of these engineers and folks in Silicon Valley that have an intentionality behind how they code, that do
01:48:53.000have an agenda, and that would privately admit this.
01:49:01.000But I think you're also right that there's also a substantial minority of people who
01:49:05.000have – are like the Goldstein Manual in Orwell's 1984, and they have this cognitive
01:49:10.000dissonance where they don't even concede the notion of double think, and they've
01:49:16.000themselves through some type of strange psychosis.
01:49:19.000Do you know what happens when someone is experiencing cognitive dissonance and you present absolute proof that their worldview is incorrect, or at least a portion of it?
01:49:30.000This is why you see those videos of the famous memes of people, like, their veins are popping out and they're screaming like that.
01:49:36.000And that's why you see so often the meme of the cool-as-a-cucumber guy, you know, poking fun at them.
01:49:42.000The person who is not emotionally agitated, who has thought through their problems, who has thought through the problems and looked up the information, has the arguments right at hand, for the most part.
01:49:51.000I don't think every single person on the right has all the answers.
01:49:54.000But you'll see a lot of these ideologically driven, woke, culty, leftist-type individuals, pro-censorship, Experiencing the cognitive dissonance of trying to claim their for free speech while almost also simultaneously being in favor of censorship, they can't handle it.
01:50:08.000They make up, like there's that famous comic where the guy says that the paradox of tolerance, which it's a paradox itself, like the comic itself makes literally no sense because it contradicts itself.
01:50:34.000So, the way it was explained to me, and this could be absolutely wrong, it's been a long time, it was explained to me by some psychologist, I think.
01:50:42.000What they basically said was, you grow up, you know, you're a little kid, you're a preteen, you're a teenager, you're a young adult, And you're building a worldview.
01:50:52.000You're, in your mind, you are determining what is true and what isn't.
01:50:55.000By the time you're, you know, getting into your late teens, into your early twenties, your brain is sort of now constructed a solidified worldview that is nearly complete.
01:51:04.000At a certain point, your brain says, this is true, it must be true, because you've survived for this long.
01:51:11.000Whatever it is that you've learned has helped you survive in this dangerous, treacherous world.
01:51:17.000So it is dangerous to have those ideas and that worldview challenged, because if it turns out you're actually believing something that could be dangerous for you, it could put your life at risk.
01:51:26.000The simplest way to explain it is, back when humans were running through the fields in the savannas, we learned, hey, you know, fire hot.
01:51:33.000And your brain builds this worldview that fire is hot.
01:51:35.000People believe these things, and their social circles, they basically solidify and fortify this worldview.
01:51:42.000Once you get to a certain age, you need to maintain that worldview because it will keep you alive.
01:51:48.000All of a sudden, someone comes around and completely shatters that worldview, putting your life at risk.
01:51:52.000It's a defense mechanism where, by getting emotionally enraged, it shuts down your ability to process the information to protect what has kept you alive for this long.
01:52:01.000It's essentially a failsafe that actually backfires in the long run.
01:52:05.000I think what concerns me, I would love to hear your opinion on this, is that people are, for the most part, lacking critical thought.
01:52:12.000Maybe not all, but, and I know we can learn critical thought, but even people that are massively intelligent developers or fantastically wealthy business tycoons, lacking critical thought, where if someone challenges your worldview and says something you think is threatening your safety, You're still supposed to support their ability to do that under the U.S.
01:52:33.000I go back to Orwell constantly because I feel like this book answers so many of these questions.
01:52:38.000And what scares me about the Orwell book is when Winston, the protagonist, this is the Winston Smith, is being tortured by O'Brien, the tyrant.
01:53:45.000Do you know the reference, there are four lights?
01:53:47.000A bunch of people watching are going, yes!
01:53:49.000It's from The Next Generation, Star Trek.
01:53:52.000Captain Picard is kidnapped and tortured by the Cardassians, and there are four lights in front of him, and he keeps saying, there are five lights.
01:53:59.000Now tell me, how many lights are there?
01:54:01.000And Picard refuses to say, there are five lights, and he says, there are four lights!
01:54:06.000Yeah, yeah, he was tortured, deprived of sleep, all of the, you know, yeah, he was tortured, and he's like, disheveled and shaking, and he refused to back down.
01:54:13.000Well, I mean, this is the question, to go to your point, but yet we live in a society where there's courage, there's the courage to run up a hill with a bayonet.
01:54:25.000You know, Von Clausewitz talks about two different types of courage, and then there's moral courage.
01:54:32.000We're not asking people to give up their lives, we're asking them to give up their reputation, and Orwell's hypothesis is that no one is that strong.
01:54:39.000The protagonist, Winston Smith, is forced to say that 2 plus 2 equals 5, or a rat eats his face, okay?
01:54:46.000And Winston says, okay, whatever, 2 plus 2 equals 5.
01:54:50.000And Orwell says to tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing them to forget any fact that has become inconvenient and then when it becomes necessary again to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed.
01:55:02.000To deny the existence of objective reality.
01:55:05.000So these Silicon Valley people Are these tyrants telling us this 2 plus 2 equals 5?
01:55:13.000It's a great metaphor because I feel like we're being scared through social media into the spirit of race or social rejection.
01:55:23.000I have people in the conservative movement, I don't even consider myself part of that movement, afraid to retweet me for fear of being what?
01:56:10.000I mean, listen, I can come on here and talk about movies sometimes, like I did Gina Carano, Star Wars, you know, and it's kind of wagging the finger at these corporations.
01:56:19.000They don't care that I'm mad at them because they fired Gina Carano.
01:56:22.000You put a camera in the faces of these people.
01:56:24.000So, you know, I think There are people who are willing to say, there are four lights, two plus two equals four.
01:56:43.000It's kind of a joke about lowering the temperature and stuff.
01:56:47.000And I'll tell you this, they're brave, they're angry, they're passionate, and they're willing to sacrifice everything to get what they want.
01:56:54.000And I think they're dangerously incorrect.
01:56:56.000Too many people on the right are absolutely not willing to sacrifice anything.
01:57:02.000Because they're scared and they're fat and happy.
01:57:04.000Because they get to sit back in their lounge chair watching, you know, whatever Hollywood movie they claim to hate, but still get to be a part of something.
01:57:12.000They've been given enough money to survive and then they're threatened with it being taken away.
01:57:16.000So they're living in fear so they don't speak up.
01:57:19.000So I often say, it's not black and white.
01:57:22.000It's not like, I'm gonna say, we will always defy the machine.
01:57:27.000When it comes to saying a certain name, which we can't say on YouTube, I've chosen... We're not gonna say it.
01:57:34.000I prefer to have this show live with James O'Keefe and Ian and Luke and Lydia and we're talking about what's going on and why it's dangerous and important.
01:57:42.000I could choose to say one word or one phrase and get the whole conversation removed.
01:58:09.000I can think of many folks who've made the ultimate sacrifice, sacrifice that is beyond anything I can comprehend, go overseas and die for their country.
01:58:20.000Members of Congress or people working in government that would be willing to make even a sacrifice of their own reputation for a cause greater than themselves.
01:58:43.000The left, it's not so much that Antifa has a core set of values they're fighting for, it's that they're extremely angry, and they can be weaponized by the collective because they fall in line.
01:58:52.000Because they have toolkits, they have these plans.
01:59:32.000James, you're over, including my mentor.
01:59:35.000So I know what it's like, and I know that the road to truth and justice, you're going to go through this, and I don't think people are willing to.
01:59:45.000And political prosecution, and to be tarred and feathered, in the psychology of the American people, is almost worse than death.
01:59:58.000Because I can see people with the courage to run up a hill with a bayonet, but a more rare form of courage is moral courage.
02:00:08.000That is to stick by a cause which is losing.
02:00:39.000Yeah, because I often don't take very strong opinions on a lot of political issues because it takes a lot of research and a lot of confidence to assert something to be true.
02:00:47.000We must have universal health care and ban all private, you know, health insurance I think is a ridiculous position because it's too absolute.
02:00:54.000But the things I do know that make sense, I am very, very assertive when it comes to these things, and arrogant.
02:01:00.000So when someone comes out, when every single person, it could be literally everyone in the world, comes out and says, no, we refuse, I'll just say, I don't care.
02:04:21.000Did your parents helicopter over you or snowplow things away from you, or did you just go out and do your thing when you were young?
02:04:26.000Very independent, hard-working father and grandfather.
02:04:29.000Did a lot of manual labor with my father and grandfather.
02:04:31.000So there are a couple things in my life that I credit my probably tenacity and arrogance to, and confidence.
02:04:38.000I'm not trying to be too self-deprecating.
02:04:40.000Is that my family started a business when I was like nine years old and I had to go from the south side of Chicago to the north side of Chicago as a nine-year-old by myself.
02:04:48.000And so this is from the orange line to the... I guess you could take the orange line to the red line or blue line up to Wrigley Field and that was for almost two years and I was entirely on my own.
02:06:00.000It's like, a lot of these kids, a lot of these people, I say kids, probably when they were kids were bullied and they wanted to find that source of power to oppress others to get that feeling back.
02:06:10.000It's a lot of what you see in adults who are oppressive and arrogant and nasty to other people.
02:06:15.000It's because it's kind of revenge for them.
02:06:17.000Like I said, they want to be the one doing the hazing, not the one getting hazed.
02:06:27.000When you've been accused of a felony you have not committed and had arrested by the FBI, put in shackles, thrown in federal prison, it is amazingly Humbling.
02:06:38.000And of course you're, and I said this story, the first temptation is to talk.
02:06:42.000If you're, if you, let's say the feds arrest you tomorrow and just made up some bullshit and totally false.
02:06:47.000The first thing you would think psychologically is, and everyone thinks, oh, I'm smart enough.
02:06:52.000I would, Miranda writes, no, no, no, my friend.
02:06:54.000When you're shackled at 24 years old, you're pissing your pants.
02:07:05.000And then they use every word against you because that's what they do, but it humbles you, and you think, okay, now I know the level I'm playing at.
02:07:14.000It's not that they will use everything you say against you, it's that they can say whatever they want after you've talked.
02:07:19.000That's right, that's what I meant to say.
02:07:21.000There's a very famous, I think it was a Supreme Court justice or a lawyer who wrote this long, profound statement on why you never talk to law enforcement, no matter what.
02:07:32.000And they said it's because the moment you open your mouth, that law enforcement officer can say in a court of law, James O'Keefe admitted to everything to me.
02:09:14.000And so, typically, I'm like, I'm reading through and there's a lot of stuff where people are saying, you know, really nice things.
02:09:20.000We have... Lawrence Van Don says, James, I can all but guarantee that Robert Barnes and Viva Frey would team up with you on the People's Defamation Defense Fund.
02:09:28.000They're lawyers who are amazing to listen to on YouTube.
02:09:30.000Barnes is a lawyer for the John Doe Covington kids' defamation.
02:09:51.000If telling the truth And being a good investigative reporter that 50 years ago would have won you a Pulitzer, now gets you defamed and arrested, would you do it?
02:10:33.000To be smart with when you speak doesn't mean, and I've also found that being honest doesn't mean that you always say everything on your mind.
02:16:45.000But you know what's interesting for me is something changed with the internet and the ability for people to investigate on their own and build their own communities.
02:16:53.000I've actually had, there are some pro skateboarders that I grew up watching all of their videos.
02:16:58.000The legends messaged me on Instagram and Twitter being like, dude, you're the best.
02:17:03.000To have, like, this dude, when I was, like, 14, watching his video in my friend's basement on VHS, being like, man, I wish I was as good at skateboarding as that guy.
02:17:11.000Now he's mentioning me, being like, dude, you're one of the best people covering news and talking about it.
02:19:07.000Because when something like the Covington kids happen, how many Conservatives immediately just agreed with the narrative that had emerged about these kids.
02:19:36.000Because when someone sends me a video, and it's just a kid smiling in front of a guy playing a drum, and they tell me to be angry, I'm like, for what?
02:19:58.000And then I made a video, I'm like, these people are nuts.
02:20:00.000And then a bunch of people actually got on board, helped source a two hour long live stream, which I downloaded, and then showed clips where I'm like, dude, these kids didn't do anything wrong.
02:20:10.000But so many people were just desperate to fit in.
02:20:12.000The same thing is true with some of these, you know, these more tragic incidents related to Black Lives Matter protests.
02:20:18.000Before the full story comes out, and it's happened several times, people just jump the gun and make assumptions based on the leftist narrative.
02:20:23.000Or how about something I walked right into and fell for, believing the New York Times narrative on the officer at the Capitol and how he died.
02:20:31.000And it turns out it was an unrelated stroke.
02:20:50.000I don't believe you unless you show me your source material.
02:20:53.000They have given us no reason to trust them.
02:20:55.000And I think what we're talking about right now is the real issue, Tim.
02:20:59.000It's the perverse incentive for people that supposedly fight for truth to sell out in order to get positive ink by all the people they want to be liked by.
02:21:09.000The moment you don't care is the moment you're free.
02:21:12.000We do have several ladies asking if James is single.
02:22:38.000There is a little bit of nervousness, but once you're doing it, you're kind of in this flow state.
02:22:42.000And when you're locking eyes with, like, a Lord Jacob Rothschild or a Henry Kissinger or Zbigniew Brzezinski or Bill Clinton or Tony Blair... Yes, Luke, we know!
02:22:52.000When you're locking eyes with them, you're in the moment and it feels amazing and incredible to be able to get rid of this facade of them getting their butts kissed all the time and just slap them with reality and they're shocked and they quiver.
02:23:05.000Yeah, the confrontation and the way they react.
02:23:07.000It's so telling because they're so cowardly.
02:23:10.000They expect you to kiss their ass and then once you're like, let's talk about this and this and this and this real issue, What I'm worried about is when I do it, like two examples, when I called into Jeff Zucker's conference line in December, I dialed into the CEO of CNN's 9 a.m.
02:24:25.000My team will always tell me, it's always the little things like, do we have backup The worst thing about this business is when you do the thing and the camera failed or the batteries died.
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02:26:06.000James, do you want to shout out anything else before we wrap this portion up?
02:26:09.000The only thing I would shout out is if you're watching this and you work for a Silicon Valley tech giant or the government, or you see fraud happening in your municipality, corporation, or government bureau, contact us on the inside.
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02:26:27.000I think the shirt I'm wearing is very fitting for today's discussion.
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02:26:49.000And James, you brought up a very important point when I asked you about alternative social media platforms.
02:27:19.000And at the time, I didn't have an answer, but I've thought about it.
02:27:21.000And I'm hoping that at some point someone can get inside the Federal Reserve and break the books on that company, because the government's not allowed to audit them at present.
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