Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - TimcastIRL - Joe Rogan Podcast LEAVING Youtube After $100M Spotify Deal, Youtube Is Over Party

00:00:00.000 We'll see you next time.

00:00:20.000 My name is Tim Poole.

00:00:21.000 Tonight, hanging out with some people.

00:00:23.000 Oh, you know me.

00:00:24.000 What up, everybody?

00:00:25.000 Oh, you know me.

00:00:25.000 It's Adam.

00:00:26.000 You know it.

00:00:28.000 You know Jesus.

00:00:29.000 And me, producer Lydia.

00:00:31.000 Producer Lydia.

00:00:32.000 I see we got a bunch of crabs in chat.

00:00:33.000 That's the crab dance.

00:00:34.000 You know that video?

00:00:35.000 No.

00:00:37.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:00:38.000 Joe Rogan!

00:00:39.000 He's leaving!

00:00:40.000 He's leaving all of us behind.

00:00:42.000 Yes, he is.

00:00:43.000 This is huge, man.

00:00:45.000 I feel like he's shifting more than leaving.

00:00:48.000 I mean, he is leaving YouTube, yes.

00:00:49.000 Well, not really, though.

00:00:50.000 His clips will still... No, but the podcast is leaving.

00:00:52.000 The podcast is leaving.

00:00:52.000 Right, the podcast.

00:00:53.000 It was hard because I didn't want to... For those that are just tuning in, I didn't want to put in the title, like, try and break down exactly what's happening.

00:00:59.000 Joe Rogan is leaving iTunes.

00:01:01.000 He's going to go exclusive on Spotify, but the clips will still be on YouTube.

00:01:04.000 So it's like I couldn't put this whole thing.

00:01:07.000 So it's not going to be on iTunes either?

00:01:09.000 No.

00:01:09.000 Spotify exclusive.

00:01:11.000 I believe that's the story.

00:01:13.000 Now this is big.

00:01:14.000 This is a big deal because, I mean, this is going to be bad for YouTube.

00:01:19.000 Is it?

00:01:20.000 Yeah.

00:01:20.000 I mean, YouTube Their bread and butter is their volume.

00:01:27.000 The CPMs, the ad rates for YouTube, they're not good.

00:01:30.000 And so they made money.

00:01:32.000 Their bread and butter was the fact that they had a massive library of all this content flooding the market, crushing everyone else out.

00:01:39.000 Rogan's getting millions of views on his podcasts.

00:01:42.000 He's going to take that away.

00:01:43.000 The clips may still end up getting a ton of views, though.

00:01:43.000 That's true.

00:01:46.000 They might pick some of that up.

00:01:47.000 But ultimately, I don't know, man.

00:01:49.000 I got a lot of opinions about Joe Rogan's move.

00:01:51.000 Now, all I can say is congratulations for the, you know, 100 million bucks.

00:01:55.000 We'll talk about what that really means.

00:01:57.000 So this is the first story we've got.

00:01:59.000 We've also got the UN.

00:02:00.000 We're going to talk about UN's weird attempt at language policing.

00:02:05.000 Yeah.

00:02:06.000 And we always try to introduce stories we're going to get to and then we never get to them.

00:02:09.000 So we'll see what happens.

00:02:10.000 We've got a couple of the stories, you know, Batwoman.

00:02:13.000 I don't even, like, Ruby Rose is quitting Batwoman.

00:02:16.000 So, like, what is the show even?

00:02:17.000 Yeah.

00:02:18.000 This is a show that was just, like, slammed for being a social justice show.

00:02:23.000 And I think she left because you mentioned she was in John Wick.

00:02:26.000 John Wick 2, yeah.

00:02:27.000 And she was great.

00:02:28.000 Yeah, she was cool.

00:02:29.000 I wonder if she was like, this is destroying my career.

00:02:30.000 Probably.

00:02:31.000 It's like a bad show.

00:02:32.000 Yeah.

00:02:32.000 And she's like doing John Wick, you know what I mean?

00:02:34.000 Yeah.

00:02:35.000 Agreed.

00:02:35.000 That's cool.

00:02:36.000 And then we also have, what do we have?

00:02:38.000 Oh yeah, the Navy fighter jets.

00:02:39.000 We never got to that.

00:02:40.000 So if we have time, these are the stories we have lined up.

00:02:42.000 Aliens.

00:02:43.000 And aliens.

00:02:44.000 Aliens.

00:02:45.000 Joe Rogan is first.

00:02:45.000 The UN.

00:02:47.000 So if you haven't already, smash that like button.

00:02:49.000 Welcome to the show.

00:02:50.000 I smashed it.

00:02:51.000 Get your comments in now in the super chat, because we always try to read as many as we can, but we go in reverse chronological, or we go in chronological order, so first come, first serve, and we usually get too many.

00:03:03.000 It becomes physically impossible to read, and I gotta be honest, we really do try, but I think last night we read for 50 minutes straight, just like, here's what so-and-so said, so-and-so says this, so at a certain point, it's just too many come in.

00:03:17.000 Because some of the comments, some of the superchats are really, really great.

00:03:17.000 And it's rough, it's rough.

00:03:20.000 And we actually can riff on them and do whole segments when someone's like, Adam, what do you think about this?

00:03:24.000 And then we're like, well, and then we, you know, we talk about stuff.

00:03:26.000 But if you'd like, you know, get in your superchats and we'll do our best to read them when we can.

00:03:32.000 Subscribe, like button, notification bell, all that good stuff.

00:03:35.000 And share the podcast if you like it.

00:03:37.000 Now that Joe Rogan's leaving, that means we're going to be the coolest podcast on YouTube then, right?

00:03:42.000 That is correct, yes.

00:03:43.000 That's what I was thinking.

00:03:44.000 He's the only one I defer to in terms of like, I mean, he's the biggest in the world.

00:03:47.000 Coolness.

00:03:48.000 So let's get started.

00:03:50.000 The Wall Street Journal, check this out.

00:03:52.000 Spotify strikes podcast deal with Joe Rogan worth more than $100 million.

00:03:57.000 Wow.

00:03:57.000 dollars. Wow. His full library dating back 11 years is to hit the service

00:04:02.000 September 1st and become exclusive to Spotify after that before the end of the

00:04:07.000 year. Wow. There are so many implications to this for us, for everyone else. What

00:04:13.000 does the money mean? Is it a good idea? Maybe not.

00:04:17.000 Okay.

00:04:18.000 But I mean, I'll tell you what.

00:04:19.000 For him, you mean?

00:04:20.000 Yeah.

00:04:22.000 Because I've, you know, we've, I'll keep this vague, but of course, we've had people approach us saying, you know, hey, this podcast, and you really got to weigh opportunity for growth, revenue, super chat versus upfront contract cash.

00:04:22.000 It's tough, man.

00:04:36.000 And I've been through all this, dealing with, you know, working for big companies and getting locked into contracts and what it means.

00:04:42.000 I'll tell you what, man.

00:04:43.000 I was in a two-year contract with that ABC News television company.

00:04:46.000 Right, right.

00:04:48.000 And it was golden handcuffs.

00:04:49.000 That's what they call it.

00:04:49.000 They give you this money, and then it destroys you.

00:04:52.000 So for like two years, I was gone.

00:04:54.000 Like, I was making some stuff, and some stuff did well.

00:04:57.000 But it's like, I go from doing these on-the-ground, you know, viral 5 million views overnight, Kim.com on Vice.

00:05:04.000 Then I did Ukraine, 2 million.

00:05:06.000 Ukraine again, 2 million.

00:05:07.000 And then I go to Fusion, and it's like, I wonder what happened to that Tim Pool guy.

00:05:10.000 Well, we were even gonna have a show.

00:05:13.000 You and I met with the president, and he was like, yeah, this is so cool, you guys can do this podcast that we're actually doing right now that seems to be doing well, and they missed their chance.

00:05:22.000 They were like, eh, okay.

00:05:24.000 So let's do this.

00:05:26.000 So that's some pretext.

00:05:27.000 We'll talk about a lot of this, and I'll break down what these contracts mean.

00:05:30.000 Joe is likely not getting, they're not writing him a check for $100 million.

00:05:33.000 The average person's gonna hear that and be like, they're gonna think, Spotify was like, 100 million, here you are, Joe!

00:05:38.000 It's a lot more complicated, and I'll explain in a second, but let's read the news, get the context.

00:05:42.000 Joe Rogan is taking his podcast exclusively to Spotify Technologies SA in a licensing deal worth more than $100 million, according to a person familiar with the matter.

00:05:51.000 That would be one of the largest such deals in the rapidly growing podcast business.

00:05:55.000 The comedian, television host, and MMA commentator has become one of the most influential and lucrative podcast hosts in recent years, especially with his popular VODcast video podcast format on YouTube.

00:06:06.000 Rogan52 has so far withheld his podcast from Spotify, saying the streaming service doesn't pay enough, and he had been generating significant revenue on other services, such as YouTube.

00:06:16.000 His full library, dating back 11 years, is to hit the service September 1st and become exclusive after that, before the end of the year.

00:06:23.000 His video podcast, which will also appear on Spotify, will no longer be available on YouTube.

00:06:29.000 Yes, Spotify will host the videos.

00:06:31.000 I didn't know they had video.

00:06:33.000 I don't think they do.

00:06:34.000 This might be a specific thing for Joe.

00:06:37.000 Do they host videos?

00:06:37.000 Maybe they do.

00:06:39.000 I have no idea.

00:06:41.000 I looked.

00:06:42.000 I was unaware because that's huge.

00:06:44.000 I thought it was just music.

00:06:45.000 That's huge.

00:06:46.000 Spotify has spent hundreds of millions of dollars acquiring entire companies, including Gimlet Media and Bill Simmons, The Ringer.

00:06:53.000 The deal with Rogan is a multi-year licensing agreement for an amount of time that couldn't be learned.

00:06:58.000 That's an interesting way of phrasing that.

00:07:00.000 It will likely be worth more than $100 million based on milestones and performance metrics, according to the person familiar.

00:07:06.000 Last year, the creators of popular true crime podcast My Favorite Murder signed a two-year deal worth at least $10 million with E.W.

00:07:12.000 Scripps Co.' 's Stitcher Unit, according to people familiar with the matter, in what was then one of the largest of its kind.

00:07:18.000 Launched in 2009, the Joe Rogan Experience has built an avid fan base discussing wide-ranging topics from neuroscience, sports, and health to comedy and culture.

00:07:25.000 His show consistently ranks at the top of Apple Podcasts' rankings, sitting at number two on Tuesday.

00:07:30.000 He does.

00:07:30.000 That's so funny.

00:07:31.000 No, I don't think so.

00:07:31.000 Oh, really?

00:07:31.000 me, dollar shave club, zip recruiter.

00:07:33.000 Joe does the best commercials.

00:07:34.000 He does.

00:07:35.000 Have you, have you heard him?

00:07:36.000 No, I don't think so.

00:07:36.000 Because it's like, it's, he almost makes fun of the products.

00:07:39.000 Oh really?

00:07:39.000 Yeah.

00:07:39.000 He was doing, he was doing one commercial we were listening to where it was like,

00:07:42.000 it was, uh, uh, what was it for?

00:07:44.000 Like shaving your junk?

00:07:45.000 Yep.

00:07:46.000 And he was like.

00:07:47.000 He was like, this thing is for shaving your junk.

00:07:49.000 And then apparently it had a light on it.

00:07:51.000 He's like, it comes with an LED.

00:07:53.000 Wait, you got a light on this?

00:07:55.000 Man, anybody shaving down there in the dark, you're crazy.

00:08:00.000 Yeah, he's great.

00:08:01.000 He's a comedian, man.

00:08:02.000 He's funny.

00:08:02.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:08:03.000 So here's a quote.

00:08:04.000 He says, we're going to be working with the same crew doing the exact same show as he announced the deal on his podcast Tuesday.

00:08:09.000 The only difference will be it will now be available on the largest audio platform in the world.

00:08:14.000 He also assured his fans the podcast will still be available free on both Spotify's ad-supported and premium tiers.

00:08:21.000 The deal comes after a year in which Spotify, the largest music streaming service by subscriptions, has made heavy investments in podcasting as it recasts itself as more than just a music service.

00:08:30.000 It's a very, very, very smart move on the part of Spotify.

00:08:34.000 Totally.

00:08:35.000 Smartest thing they could have done.

00:08:36.000 Oh, they nailed it.

00:08:37.000 Now, if you were Joe Rogan, Joe's already wealthy.

00:08:42.000 I don't know how much he makes.

00:08:44.000 You can look up celebrity net worth, things like that.

00:08:46.000 And there's estimates based on how much money he makes based on CPM and the ads he does.

00:08:52.000 And someone, I think, made a post arguing that he made like $75k per episode or something.

00:08:58.000 I don't know anything about his metrics or how much money he makes.

00:09:01.000 The question is, first and foremost... Well, actually, let's break down how a $100 million deal would work.

00:09:09.000 So you'll often hear this, when someone signs a contract, they'll be like, Adam Krigler signed a contract valued at five million dollars with, you know, I don't know, Florbo Corp.

00:09:19.000 And then people instantly assume you gotta check for five million.

00:09:22.000 Wait, how do you know about that?

00:09:24.000 It's breaking news.

00:09:24.000 Just kidding.

00:09:26.000 Florbo Corp.

00:09:27.000 So this is a multi-year deal, right?

00:09:29.000 Yeah.

00:09:30.000 Divide that $100 million by the multi-year deal.

00:09:32.000 Right.

00:09:33.000 Multi-year, what does that mean?

00:09:33.000 At least three or four?

00:09:34.000 Well, they don't even know.

00:09:35.000 They could not be learned.

00:09:37.000 It was someone familiar.

00:09:39.000 So all this is just hearsay too.

00:09:40.000 It's not even real stuff.

00:09:43.000 I mean, I'll tell you what, when I first heard Joe posted the announcement that he was going to be leaving YouTube and iTunes, I said 100 million.

00:09:51.000 I was like, what are they paying him, 100 million bucks?

00:09:53.000 Because you have to understand the amount of reach and promotion, everything he gets from YouTube.

00:09:57.000 So we can talk about why this might be a bad idea, in my opinion.

00:10:00.000 I don't know what Joe knows and I know that Joe is insanely more successful than I am.

00:10:05.000 He's also got 20 years on me.

00:10:07.000 But I know a lot about YouTube metrics and he probably knows a lot more about the podcasting business.

00:10:13.000 He's been doing it for a lot longer.

00:10:15.000 So I can only defer to him and say he's probably made the right choice knowing how much money they're offering him.

00:10:19.000 Do you think YouTube's sweating a little bit right now?

00:10:22.000 It's the number one podcast in the world.

00:10:27.000 And they were on YouTube.

00:10:29.000 And I think about how YouTube messed this up.

00:10:33.000 Remember he used to do his show live?

00:10:36.000 And then they stopped doing it live.

00:10:38.000 So I don't exactly know why I can surmise it has to do with the risk of getting your livestream pulled because you said something or someone said something you can't control it.

00:10:48.000 Yeah, I see.

00:10:48.000 Which has happened.

00:10:49.000 Tons of people have done livestreams where all of a sudden their stream gets just removed and it's like the stream goes dead in the middle of a live broadcast.

00:10:56.000 That's why I'm like very careful when we're reading superchats and stuff and we're talking.

00:10:59.000 It's like they could just nuke the stream instantly.

00:11:02.000 And it happens.

00:11:03.000 So my assumption is it has to do with that.

00:11:08.000 He can better control the show.

00:11:10.000 And it shows you that YouTube is not a safe place to run your business.

00:11:13.000 Not even for Joe Rogan.

00:11:14.000 I think for the most part he was safe.

00:11:16.000 Let's talk about the money real quick.

00:11:18.000 It's a four year deal.

00:11:20.000 I'm just assuming.

00:11:21.000 Is that what you think?

00:11:22.000 I would estimate, because it's Joe, two.

00:11:27.000 At least two years.

00:11:29.000 It's tough though, it's tough.

00:11:30.000 A lot of companies will try and get you for three years, but Joe Rogan has the leverage.

00:11:35.000 So I'd imagine he might be like, we'll go for two years, we'll see how it plays out.

00:11:39.000 And it's a multi-year deal.

00:11:41.000 Yeah, it might just be two years.

00:11:42.000 And so that could potentially be 50 million in value, potential value.

00:11:47.000 So we gotta break all this down.

00:11:49.000 If Joe really does make, you know, like 75k per episode, I don't know if that's true.

00:11:53.000 Yeah.

00:11:54.000 And he does, what does he do, like four episodes a week?

00:11:57.000 So he's making, he's making a lot of money.

00:11:59.000 Yeah.

00:12:00.000 A lot.

00:12:00.000 That's really good.

00:12:01.000 So how much do you have to offer him to, for him to walk away from, you know, YouTube, for instance?

00:12:06.000 Already set up, already getting the money.

00:12:06.000 Yeah.

00:12:08.000 I don't think he makes that much on YouTube.

00:12:09.000 No?

00:12:10.000 The commercials he does, I don't know if I believe he makes that much money because I don't think... I'll stop there.

00:12:19.000 I don't know what the metrics are for top iTunes shows.

00:12:23.000 I do know the metrics for one of the highest-profile shows that was basically leaked to me, so I'm not going to reveal who it is, but it's a very high-profile individual, and they get a tenth of what they get on YouTube.

00:12:36.000 And it's one of the biggest shows on iTunes.

00:12:39.000 And that's similar for my podcast.

00:12:42.000 I get substantially less podcast downloads than I do YouTube views.

00:12:45.000 Like ridiculously less.

00:12:48.000 And even for this show, we get like 20 times more views on YouTube than we do on the podcast.

00:12:56.000 It's like hard to promote.

00:12:57.000 So, anyway, if Spotify went to Joe and they were like, you know, we'll give you $10 million a year for two years, then where's that other $80 million come from?

00:13:07.000 What people don't understand about that number is that it could include marketing deals.

00:13:11.000 It could include production staff support.

00:13:14.000 It could include travel bonuses.

00:13:17.000 It could be predicated upon reaching certain milestones like they mentioned.

00:13:20.000 So, I don't know.

00:13:22.000 All I can say is the number must have been good enough for Joe.

00:13:26.000 And now he's going to leave YouTube.

00:13:27.000 So there's a bunch of things to talk about.

00:13:29.000 This is going to be great for us.

00:13:31.000 It really, really is.

00:13:31.000 I agree.

00:13:32.000 It's going to be amazing.

00:13:33.000 Yep.

00:13:34.000 So I recently went on the Joe Rogan podcast.

00:13:37.000 Many of you may have seen it.

00:13:38.000 It's currently sitting around 5.8 million views.

00:13:41.000 I know why it's sitting at 5.8 million views.

00:13:41.000 Wow.

00:13:43.000 How come?

00:13:44.000 It's not entirely about Joe.

00:13:46.000 It's about the YouTube algorithm.

00:13:47.000 Okay.

00:13:48.000 So I produce content every day on multiple channels.

00:13:50.000 Right.

00:13:51.000 Tim Pool is in the description for all of these.

00:13:53.000 So YouTube knows there is a phrase, Tim Pool, that people search for and click on.

00:13:58.000 So when I did the Joe Rogan podcast, there's a reason why my podcast was the second biggest of April.

00:14:05.000 I think it was Eric Weinstein was the beginning of April, and it's got like 6.1 million views.

00:14:13.000 So at the end of the month is my podcast.

00:14:15.000 So Eric's got a few weeks on me.

00:14:16.000 It may end up that my podcast ends up getting more traffic in the long run.

00:14:19.000 But most of his podcasts are like, you know, a million, two million views.

00:14:23.000 Because most of these people aren't on YouTube and their names aren't recognized by the algorithm.

00:14:27.000 So when I did the podcast with Joe, I get hit up by a bunch of people being like, dude, YouTube won't stop recommending this to me.

00:14:27.000 Right.

00:14:33.000 It's just like, it's there, it's there, it's there.

00:14:35.000 It's a combination of people listen for a long time.

00:14:37.000 Yeah.

00:14:38.000 But it also has to do with the search term, Tim Pool, evidenced by.

00:14:42.000 Many of you may have noticed 20 year old skate videos of me popping up on YouTube.

00:14:47.000 And it's it's it's hilarious.

00:14:49.000 But there's a there's a YouTube channel of mine with like no subscribers that my mom was uploading to in 2005.

00:14:56.000 And it's got skate videos of me when I was like 14, 15 years old and my name's in it.

00:15:01.000 And I'm like, how did YouTube surface this?

00:15:04.000 It's because Tim Pool was in the title.

00:15:06.000 Yep.

00:15:07.000 So following, you know, Rogan.

00:15:09.000 So the reason I bring that up is When Joe does a podcast, I don't know what his views are like, but a large portion of everyone's views on YouTube are driven by free marketing from the YouTube platform.

00:15:22.000 So it's true for me.

00:15:23.000 I've seen what happens when a video is suppressed.

00:15:27.000 And I've seen what happens when a video is promoted.

00:15:29.000 Okay.

00:15:30.000 And when YouTube promotes it, it's like, it's like, wow, how did I get 700,000 views in a day?

00:15:34.000 It's because YouTube, the YouTube algorithm put it in front of a bunch of new people.

00:15:38.000 And then YouTube actually tells you, they say this podcast, you know, this, this video did really, really well with people who aren't subscribed to your channel.

00:15:46.000 So Joe's walking away from that.

00:15:48.000 It's a big bet.

00:15:49.000 It is.

00:15:50.000 I mean, is it a bet when you're getting paid $100 million?

00:15:53.000 He's not getting paid, but... Well, even if it's over a set amount of time, it's like, the number was good enough for him to walk away from it.

00:16:01.000 And I think... It's not really a bet, I don't think.

00:16:03.000 I think for him, he's 52, and so he's probably thinking, I don't want to act like I know what he's thinking, but at a certain point, people are like, I've been there, done that, I did it.

00:16:13.000 Take the money and I'm done.

00:16:14.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:16.000 I'm not saying that as shade to Joe, I'm saying like, You know, for me right now, I'm hungry.

00:16:20.000 I'm like, we're going to build this company.

00:16:21.000 We're into all these great things.

00:16:22.000 Joe's 52.

00:16:23.000 He's got a bunch of projects.

00:16:24.000 He's already become the biggest podcast in the world.

00:16:27.000 Right.

00:16:28.000 You know, he's, he's sitting on top of Everest and he's like, you know, you got a good deal for me.

00:16:32.000 It's going to keep me comfortable for a, for a couple of years.

00:16:34.000 All right, let's do it.

00:16:35.000 I'd imagine it's more than two years though, simply because walking away from YouTube, that's a huge risk.

00:16:40.000 But I don't know, a hundred million dollars, man.

00:16:40.000 Right.

00:16:42.000 But he's still going to be uploading his clips and be making money off YouTube still.

00:16:46.000 It's not like he's letting go of completely.

00:16:48.000 It's just the live, or not the live show, but the podcast itself.

00:16:51.000 And he's probably still going to be doing ads on Spotify as well.

00:16:54.000 And Spotify probably said it's guaranteed promotion.

00:16:57.000 But here's, there's something else too.

00:17:00.000 It's like, one of the reasons Joe is consistently the number one podcast in the world is because he won't get off the top of the mountain.

00:17:08.000 So when people who have never listened to a podcast before open up iTunes, what does iTunes say?

00:17:13.000 Joe Rogan.

00:17:14.000 Check out Joe Rogan.

00:17:15.000 It's right there, it's the first thing you see.

00:17:17.000 And you're like, okay.

00:17:18.000 And then you've got, you know Joe, he's a comedian, he's famous, he's funny.

00:17:21.000 And iTunes said so?

00:17:23.000 Sure, why not?

00:17:24.000 That makes it extremely difficult for other podcasts to climb because people have to know about it.

00:17:32.000 So what you're saying is, it's our time.

00:17:35.000 No, it's well, it's tough for us.

00:17:37.000 No, I'm just going to put that out there.

00:17:40.000 There's other questions.

00:17:41.000 There's other questions, right?

00:17:43.000 I'd be willing to bet one of the reasons, maybe not a big reason why Joe was like, we're going to take the show off YouTube, is YouTube's not a safe place to run a business.

00:17:52.000 So the other day I did a video about lockdown.

00:17:56.000 People were flooding the beaches of Virginia, defying the orders.

00:18:00.000 And I post a video, 10 a.m.

00:18:03.000 like normal, no views.

00:18:06.000 It's getting like two or three percent of the views it normally gets.

00:18:11.000 Okay, that's significantly different.

00:18:13.000 Ridiculous!

00:18:14.000 And I'm like, is this live?

00:18:15.000 And I look at my channel, my channel's normal.

00:18:17.000 And I'm like, I guess the video's not getting viewed.

00:18:20.000 Nobody could see the video.

00:18:22.000 So I pulled up Incognito, I looked at my channel, video wasn't there.

00:18:25.000 And so at first I was thinking like, man, something huge must have happened that people aren't on YouTube right now.

00:18:30.000 There was a Donald Trump interview, and I'm like, maybe everybody's just watching the Trump interview, and so no one's watching my content.

00:18:36.000 And then, so when I checked, sure enough, YouTube shadow banned the video.

00:18:40.000 You couldn't see it.

00:18:42.000 How do you know that for a fact, though?

00:18:43.000 Because if you log into Incognito and go to my channel, the video is not there.

00:18:47.000 When I log in, I see the video.

00:18:49.000 That's a shadow ban.

00:18:50.000 To me, it looks normal.

00:18:52.000 To everyone else, there's nothing.

00:18:53.000 And then I tweeted about it, and a bunch of people confirmed the screenshots.

00:18:56.000 The video didn't appear for them.

00:18:57.000 Yeah, I saw your tweets.

00:18:59.000 So all of these people were like, I thought Tim wasn't going to upload any videos this morning.

00:19:03.000 He must've been sick.

00:19:04.000 Oh, YouTube just suppressed it.

00:19:06.000 The only reason that video ended up getting views like it normally would get is because I asked people like, don't let them do this.

00:19:13.000 Share this video.

00:19:15.000 YouTube's trying to shadow ban this.

00:19:17.000 I even say in the video, I'm like, they're probably going to ban this because I'm straight up saying like, people are defying lockdown.

00:19:22.000 The people have spoken.

00:19:23.000 And even this video now is at risk because YouTube is going to be like, We side with the lockdown no matter what, even if it's illegal.

00:19:30.000 legal are

00:19:44.000 look at what jill talks about you know he's He's kind of far out there in his different subjects that he talks about and people he brings on there.

00:19:52.000 So it wouldn't surprise me if Joe was kind of like, there's only a matter of time before YouTube bans me too.

00:19:57.000 I want out anyway.

00:19:58.000 And Spotify, he probably said to Spotify, we're going to get real crazy with it.

00:20:04.000 Spotify was like, we don't care.

00:20:05.000 We want to win.

00:20:05.000 Do your thing.

00:20:07.000 So YouTube got comfortable.

00:20:09.000 Yep, they're comfortable.

00:20:10.000 Now they're sweating.

00:20:11.000 If you swear, you lose money.

00:20:13.000 And so it's like, is YouTube a kids' network?

00:20:16.000 You can swear on TV.

00:20:18.000 I'm watching that new Rick and Morty.

00:20:21.000 It's not Rick and Morty.

00:20:21.000 It's called Solar Opposites by Justin Roiland.

00:20:24.000 It's a Fox show on Hulu.

00:20:26.000 They don't stop swearing.

00:20:27.000 It's like sailors.

00:20:30.000 They swear a lot.

00:20:32.000 I don't want to exaggerate.

00:20:32.000 It's not that bad.

00:20:33.000 Okay.

00:20:34.000 They do swear a lot.

00:20:35.000 And so I'm like, why is it that Hulu doesn't care?

00:20:38.000 Yeah.

00:20:39.000 They run advertisers.

00:20:40.000 They do subscriptions.

00:20:41.000 YouTube, oh, oh, oh, we can't, can't do it.

00:20:44.000 No swearing.

00:20:45.000 So, we're on a platform that is terrified of these weirdo people who identify as deer on the internet, and are going like... That's what YouTube is scared of, and so they're gonna ban us.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, I'm not surprised Joe's like, I'm out.

00:21:00.000 Yeah.

00:21:01.000 What was it?

00:21:02.000 Joe routinely talks about the trans athlete issue, because he's like really against, you know, biological males.

00:21:09.000 That's bannable, man.

00:21:10.000 That's a bannable offense.

00:21:11.000 Wait, he's against biological males?

00:21:13.000 competing against biological females.

00:21:14.000 Oh, okay.

00:21:15.000 You had to finish it.

00:21:16.000 The people that knew the context of... But for those who don't.

00:21:23.000 Right, right, right.

00:21:23.000 Maybe finish the sentence.

00:21:24.000 So Joe, you know, has talked about this a lot.

00:21:27.000 There are biological males, they transition, they still have certain advantages, they compete against biological females.

00:21:33.000 That is a bannable offense to bring up.

00:21:36.000 And here I am, I agree with him.

00:21:39.000 So we're at risk.

00:21:40.000 I've talked to people at Google and straight up said, tell me right now, because I refuse to start a business on a platform that is this unsafe.

00:21:49.000 And they're like, no, no, no, trust us, trust us, it's okay, it's okay, you're gonna be okay.

00:21:53.000 And I'm like, then why did you ban these people?

00:21:55.000 Well, we can't talk about that.

00:21:57.000 And I'm like, then why should I believe I won't be banned at some point as well?

00:22:02.000 And then they shadow ban my video.

00:22:03.000 I'm like, yeah, I know it's coming.

00:22:05.000 So you know what?

00:22:06.000 Yeah, maybe if Spotify came to me and they were like, we want you to ditch all these platforms.

00:22:09.000 That's what I was thinking of.

00:22:10.000 Maybe we should talk to Spotify.

00:22:12.000 Seriously?

00:22:12.000 What up Spotify?

00:22:13.000 They do videos.

00:22:14.000 I looked it up.

00:22:15.000 They do videos?

00:22:16.000 They do.

00:22:16.000 I don't know.

00:22:16.000 Since when?

00:22:17.000 Is it new or what?

00:22:18.000 I have no idea.

00:22:19.000 I don't use Spotify ever.

00:22:20.000 Really?

00:22:20.000 I want all the information, Lydia.

00:22:20.000 Yeah.

00:22:22.000 I got nothing.

00:22:23.000 I'll start uploading my videos.

00:22:24.000 Yeah, I'll have to look into it.

00:22:26.000 I will look into it.

00:22:26.000 I'll start putting stuff on.

00:22:28.000 Cool.

00:22:28.000 Yeah.

00:22:29.000 It's not safe, man.

00:22:30.000 And you gotta think about, like, Luke Rutkowski, right?

00:22:33.000 Okay.

00:22:34.000 Luke's been doing YouTube for over a decade.

00:22:36.000 Yep.

00:22:37.000 Like, 13, 14 years.

00:22:39.000 Early on, for those that aren't familiar, his YouTube channel is WeAreChange.

00:22:42.000 We're probably already in trouble for saying his name and mentioning his channel.

00:22:46.000 Early on, he was, like, peripherally involved with, like, Alex Jones and, like, Infowars stuff, and a lot of conspiracy theory stuff.

00:22:53.000 And then... Early on?

00:22:55.000 Isn't he always, though, kind of on that conspiracy side?

00:22:59.000 Not so much anymore.

00:23:00.000 No, not so much anymore.

00:23:01.000 Yeah, I guess I haven't seen his new stuff.

00:23:02.000 A little bit.

00:23:03.000 There's a little bit that he does.

00:23:04.000 It's in there.

00:23:05.000 But it's not nearly the same.

00:23:08.000 At this point, you know, he's talking about coronavirus in a very mainstream way, and people are yelling at him for it.

00:23:13.000 So he's very, like, I don't know.

00:23:16.000 It's fairly okay.

00:23:18.000 There's some videos where I'm like, dude, what are you doing?

00:23:20.000 But it's like 99% of his stuff is fine.

00:23:22.000 They don't care though.

00:23:23.000 It's his brand.

00:23:24.000 And so early on he had this involvement.

00:23:27.000 They came and they got rid of him.

00:23:28.000 And I think it's because of some of the people he had interviewed.

00:23:30.000 But think about this.

00:23:32.000 Let's say you're a young dumb kid and you make a bunch of dumb videos.

00:23:37.000 You build your channel up over 10 years, playing by the rules, everything's legit, 13 years later you got 700k subs, it's your job, it's your living, you've dedicated everything to this platform, always obeying the rules.

00:23:48.000 Over time, you said, the rules changed, I will adhere to the rules.

00:23:52.000 Then they say, you know what?

00:23:54.000 Your past, your brand, has a negative impact on our business, so we're purging you.

00:24:00.000 Outright, overnight, your livelihood, your career, everything's gone.

00:24:03.000 Where do you go?

00:24:04.000 How do you make your money?

00:24:05.000 Just pull the rug out from under you.

00:24:07.000 It would be like I always explain it like imagine you open an ice cream shop in like you know city center of whatever town you live in.

00:24:13.000 Okay.

00:24:13.000 And your business is running for years and you're making a living and you're like this is my job and then one day they literally come and pick up your business and just put it 40 miles outside the city like you can still sell ice cream.

00:24:23.000 You know, over there where no one is.

00:24:26.000 And all of a sudden, that's it.

00:24:28.000 Your life is over.

00:24:29.000 So in the real world, you can't do stuff like that.

00:24:31.000 But it's like the biggest fear, I guess.

00:24:34.000 But for me, I guess what works is that I'm kind of like a hippie, in a sense, where if they banned me, I'd be like, whatever.

00:24:40.000 I'm getting in the van.

00:24:40.000 I'll go skate.

00:24:41.000 I'm out.

00:24:41.000 I'm done.

00:24:42.000 I have everybody.

00:24:43.000 Just save money and then dip out.

00:24:46.000 But I guess we'll see how this plays out because the interesting thing about Joe Peeson is that there are a lot of people, like I know when, I can see it in my metrics, when other people are doing well or have some kind of bombshell.

00:25:00.000 A lot of YouTubers don't get this.

00:25:01.000 They'll be like, all of a sudden my views are down, YouTube's suppressing me.

00:25:03.000 And it's also like, do you know how market competition works?

00:25:07.000 So if you put up a video at the same time as Joe Rogan, guess what's going to happen?

00:25:12.000 You're not going to get a whole lot of views.

00:25:13.000 Right.

00:25:14.000 Because people are going to go watch Joe Rogan.

00:25:16.000 If Joe leaves the platform, that's one to two million views in a day or so that he normally gets.

00:25:22.000 That's true.

00:25:22.000 They're going to be looking for, but it's not just that.

00:25:24.000 His videos are two or three hours long.

00:25:26.000 Yeah, they are.

00:25:27.000 That means a million people now trying to fill three hours of content.

00:25:32.000 Mm-hmm.

00:25:33.000 We're here for you, everyone.

00:25:34.000 We really are here for you.

00:25:35.000 We're here for you.

00:25:36.000 Many of them are going to go to Spotify, for sure.

00:25:38.000 I don't think all of them will.

00:25:39.000 No, I'm sure, yeah.

00:25:40.000 Like I was mentioning with- I'm sure a lot of them already have Spotify.

00:25:43.000 It's not going to be like, all right, forget YouTube, Spotify now.

00:25:48.000 Spotify has been around for a long time.

00:25:50.000 There's a decent amount of people on YouTube that watch because they're on YouTube.

00:25:53.000 Right.

00:25:54.000 The same is true for Spotify or iTunes.

00:25:55.000 Probably.

00:25:56.000 So I can see it, you know, we can actually see it in the IRL podcast.

00:26:01.000 You know, sometimes we'll have a massive spike in live viewers because of the subject matter, but we know who the core people are, who are always here, always hanging out.

00:26:09.000 Yep.

00:26:10.000 Love you guys, by the way.

00:26:11.000 Yes, much appreciated.

00:26:12.000 Talking to you, our core group.

00:26:14.000 YouTube gives you a huge advantage.

00:26:17.000 Free marketing.

00:26:19.000 So long as it fits what YouTube's machine is looking for.

00:26:23.000 If you made a podcast right now and put it on Spotify, you're not going to get any downloads.

00:26:28.000 Probably not.

00:26:29.000 You make a video, you put it on YouTube, you might get a million views overnight.

00:26:32.000 If the algorithm says, hey, this is what people like.

00:26:35.000 So I guess for some, you know, from my perspective, if I was now, you know, how long has Joe been doing this?

00:26:44.000 11 years into the game, uh, into the podcasting game.

00:26:48.000 11 years.

00:26:48.000 He's the biggest, he's the best.

00:26:49.000 And someone came around and said, here's a contract.

00:26:51.000 Here's a bunch of money.

00:26:52.000 Makes sense.

00:26:52.000 You'd be like, yeah, I'm comfortable.

00:26:54.000 I got my, you know, I got my warehouse.

00:26:55.000 I got my, my friends, I got my, you know, archery thing or whatever.

00:26:58.000 His, his, his warehouse is amazing.

00:27:00.000 He's got what he wants, you know?

00:27:01.000 Yeah.

00:27:01.000 Maybe now it's time to just get security or something.

00:27:04.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah, YouTube's got to be sweating because they already purged a bunch of people.

00:27:09.000 Now, you even said the other day, it's like the algorithm seems like it's kind of back into its normal flow.

00:27:15.000 You know, they were pushing mainstream media.

00:27:16.000 Now it's back to normal.

00:27:18.000 And now Joe's a little bit more, it's noticeably differently though.

00:27:22.000 And then now Joe leaves.

00:27:23.000 Now imagine if like a bunch of other heavy podcast users get lifted by Spotify.

00:27:28.000 You know, and then all of a sudden YouTube's like, that's millions and millions of people that are not on our site

00:27:34.000 anymore.

00:27:34.000 They're, they gotta be sweating.

00:27:36.000 Yep.

00:27:36.000 I mean, dude, if Spotify is hosting videos, I'm going to check it out.

00:27:41.000 Yeah.

00:27:41.000 Spotify is legit.

00:27:42.000 So I'm already on Spotify for the audio version, but a video version.

00:27:45.000 Yeah.

00:27:46.000 Why not?

00:27:48.000 Well, we'll see.

00:27:48.000 I think one of the bigger issues, too, is Joe might actually end up losing a substantial amount of his influence because he's the biggest show on YouTube, he's the biggest show on iTunes, biggest podcast in the world.

00:28:03.000 Will he still be when he's on Spotify?

00:28:05.000 Perhaps.

00:28:06.000 Probably.

00:28:08.000 It's hard to say.

00:28:09.000 People go listen to Joe Rogan.

00:28:11.000 They like his attitude.

00:28:13.000 They like his jokes.

00:28:14.000 That's what Spotify's hoping for.

00:28:16.000 And so the big risk when you sign deals like this is always, you know why they're hiring you, right?

00:28:21.000 Because they don't get traffic.

00:28:23.000 They need traffic, which means they need to bring on talent.

00:28:26.000 So I'm sure Joe understands all of this stuff.

00:28:30.000 But, you know, and maybe he doesn't really care to have the influence he does, because he always mentions, like, you know, he passively mentions, I might vote for Bernie, and then Bernie turns into an endorsement.

00:28:38.000 I can't imagine.

00:28:38.000 Yeah.

00:28:39.000 That's fun.

00:28:39.000 It's like, dude, I didn't even, I was just like, I might vote for the guy.

00:28:42.000 And then all of a sudden everyone's yelling at you and insulting you.

00:28:44.000 Yeah.

00:28:45.000 So maybe it would be nice to, you know, to not be front and center all the time.

00:28:48.000 But, when I look at my metrics, and I don't single out any podcast platform, I don't say, hey go to this platform, hey go to this platform, iTunes is 55%, Spotify is like 20%.

00:29:02.000 So if you open the iTunes app and you see Joe's face every time, that gives him a massive amount of influence over the entire political landscape.

00:29:11.000 It seems like Spotify is making moves.

00:29:13.000 Not only did they acquire Joe, they acquired a bunch of other things over the past year.

00:29:18.000 I can't think of them offhand, but you read them in the article.

00:29:20.000 So it seems like they're making moves, man.

00:29:21.000 Let me tell you a story.

00:29:22.000 Do tell.

00:29:24.000 When I got hired by Fusion, they made a bunch of grabs from various news organizations, high-profile individuals in media, and we were called the expendables of journalism.

00:29:37.000 You know the movie Expendables?

00:29:38.000 Yeah.

00:29:38.000 Like all the stars.

00:29:39.000 Yes.

00:29:40.000 Everybody got paid an absurd amount of money.

00:29:41.000 The contracts were ridiculous.

00:29:44.000 Okay.

00:29:44.000 Ridiculous.

00:29:45.000 One dude got paid half a million dollars.

00:29:47.000 Dang.

00:29:48.000 Yeah, that got leaked.

00:29:49.000 Like right off the bat?

00:29:50.000 They gave him a half a million dollar a year, per year.

00:29:53.000 His contract was probably valued at, you know, like 1.52 million dollars.

00:29:56.000 Wow.

00:29:56.000 Oh.

00:29:57.000 Yup.

00:29:58.000 I think my contract was actually, and this is another thing about how, what it means, like a hundred million dollar deal.

00:30:05.000 My contract with them, I would be willing to bet it was the most expensive contract for them, in terms of expendable hires.

00:30:13.000 But it was because I had requirements.

00:30:15.000 So, you know, while... I don't know if I should actually say the number, but it was in the millions.

00:30:20.000 Well, we don't need to even talk about that, but it didn't work with them.

00:30:23.000 They acquired all these expendables, it didn't work.

00:30:25.000 Right.

00:30:26.000 But Spotify's picking them all up.

00:30:28.000 You're saying it might not work, or what?

00:30:29.000 Yeah, it might go down in flames.

00:30:31.000 Okay.

00:30:32.000 True.

00:30:32.000 I don't know, Spotify's solid though, and it feels like they've...

00:30:36.000 They kind of have been on a good trajectory their whole life.

00:30:39.000 So... Yeah, the difference is Fusion was a bunch of clueless people who flushed money down the toilet thinking they could spend a ton of money and it would work.

00:30:46.000 Right.

00:30:46.000 Isn't Spotify a Swedish company?

00:30:48.000 I don't know.

00:30:49.000 I'll have to look it up.

00:30:49.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:30:50.000 Here's what I'm saying.

00:30:51.000 Listen, people have habits.

00:30:53.000 People have iPhones.

00:30:55.000 You can get Spotify on your iPhone, I guess.

00:30:56.000 Okay.

00:30:57.000 But people have habits.

00:30:59.000 And their habit is going to be like pop up in the iTunes.

00:30:59.000 That's also true.

00:31:01.000 Or YouTube.

00:31:02.000 Yeah.

00:31:05.000 I think, I think Joe is well aware that, you know, he's going to try and be pulling all of his users, you know, audience from one platform to another.

00:31:12.000 But he's also, he's more than just a podcaster.

00:31:12.000 Okay.

00:31:15.000 He's Joe Rogan.

00:31:16.000 True.

00:31:17.000 He's one of the most famous comedians in the world.

00:31:20.000 He's an MMA announcer.

00:31:21.000 Right, exactly.

00:31:22.000 People know his name.

00:31:23.000 And so maybe that's why he's like, whatever.

00:31:26.000 For me, you know, I look at how many downloads I get on the podcast and it's nothing.

00:31:26.000 Yeah.

00:31:34.000 It's 1,200th of what I get on YouTube.

00:31:36.000 Okay.

00:31:37.000 So it's like, it's serious.

00:31:38.000 If YouTube cuts me off, I'm done.

00:31:39.000 I'm out.

00:31:39.000 I'm not even gonna bother.

00:31:41.000 Later.

00:31:41.000 I don't believe you.

00:31:43.000 Oh, you're wrong.

00:31:44.000 I'm wrong that I don't believe you?

00:31:44.000 I'm done.

00:31:47.000 Yeah, you were incorrect.

00:31:48.000 Oh, that's funny.

00:31:49.000 I am assuring you, if YouTube came and were like, we are getting rid of all of your channels,

00:31:54.000 I'd be like, I'm gonna go do private consulting or something.

00:31:59.000 Well actually we have scanners, so I'd probably end up doing something with that.

00:32:03.000 Harumph, I say.

00:32:03.000 He wouldn't just quit.

00:32:04.000 No, I mean quit this.

00:32:05.000 Political commentary, YouTube making videos and stuff.

00:32:09.000 And I'd go to like driving around in the van and filming and just doing verite adventures.

00:32:12.000 Be like, today we're going to check out, there's a story I want to do for a long time with my friend, Citizen Sloth Patrol.

00:32:12.000 It'd be fun.

00:32:17.000 There are people in Central America that just drive down looking for sloths trying to cross the street, pick them up, and then put them on the other side.

00:32:23.000 I want to do that but with armadillos.

00:32:24.000 Because they get run over.

00:32:26.000 Yeah, and turtles.

00:32:27.000 Yeah.

00:32:28.000 Because turtles try to cross the road.

00:32:29.000 Yeah.

00:32:30.000 So the sloth patrol is like a really fun thing.

00:32:31.000 It'd be fun to go down in the jungle and stuff.

00:32:33.000 And that's stuff I'd probably start doing if I got the axe.

00:32:35.000 But I guess we'll see how this plays out.

00:32:39.000 I gotta be honest, bro.

00:32:40.000 Two things have happened that have made me worried.

00:32:44.000 But very happy.

00:32:45.000 The first is when YouTube announced that they were doing this COPPA thing, where it was like Children's Protection Act or something like that.

00:32:51.000 Children's Online Privacy Protection Act.

00:32:54.000 And what they said was, we're going to disable premium ads, like targeted ads for all children's channels, and disable comments on all channels for children.

00:33:03.000 And it was scary for a lot of people because they were like, what does YouTube consider content for children?

00:33:08.000 like most things.

00:33:08.000 Yeah.

00:33:09.000 Yeah.

00:33:10.000 So if you, if you did too many things, like if you're a gamer, you're a kids channel.

00:33:14.000 That means they were like, they were, they were threatening you.

00:33:16.000 People were worried they'll get their comments disabled.

00:33:18.000 And so people started doing where they were like, I'll just cuss in the video.

00:33:22.000 So it's not for kids.

00:33:24.000 What did Logan Paul do?

00:33:26.000 Was it Logan Paul or was it Jake Paul?

00:33:27.000 Yeah, he brought on some interesting characters.

00:33:29.000 He brought on some porn stars.

00:33:30.000 Yeah.

00:33:32.000 Because he's like, not for kids anymore!

00:33:33.000 Don't ban me.

00:33:34.000 Don't get it twisted.

00:33:36.000 Here's what people don't understand though.

00:33:38.000 For channels like mine, that meant a windfall of cash.

00:33:43.000 Money was gonna go skyrocketing.

00:33:46.000 All of these channels that could no longer support these advertisements, the advertisers weren't going to stop advertising.

00:33:53.000 They just had nowhere to advertise anymore.

00:33:55.000 Which meant adult content like us and like my channel, we pick it up.

00:34:01.000 And so ad revenue starts going up.

00:34:03.000 So at first it's like this scared a lot of people and I was like, listen, if you're a YouTuber who makes cultural and political content, you are going to see a major increase in your revenues because they're basically taking it away from all these other channels and giving it to culture and politics.

00:34:19.000 Empowering people like us for better or for worse.

00:34:24.000 The other thing is Joe Rogan leaving.

00:34:26.000 That's the second thing.

00:34:28.000 Him leaving is like, oh man, is YouTube over?

00:34:32.000 The biggest show is leaving, he doesn't care anymore?

00:34:33.000 Is YouTube going to be able to maintain this?

00:34:36.000 Are they banning people?

00:34:37.000 I mean, this could be the beginning of the end, man.

00:34:39.000 The walls are closing in.

00:34:41.000 However, there's a big positive.

00:34:44.000 He'll still have his clips up.

00:34:46.000 They might get more views.

00:34:48.000 But with his big show, Monday through Thursday, every day at noon, I think, they upload.

00:34:54.000 If that's gone, that means all those millions of people, million plus, for three hours looking for content, I got political content right here, baby.

00:35:03.000 Come over to my shop.

00:35:04.000 And we got whatever we want to talk about on our show.

00:35:07.000 Imagine it this way.

00:35:09.000 Imagine that you're downtown.

00:35:12.000 And there's two ice cream shops and one is the biggest ice cream shop.

00:35:16.000 Everybody loves it.

00:35:16.000 And they announced, we're moving.

00:35:18.000 We're going to a different city.

00:35:19.000 You'd be like, yes.

00:35:21.000 Now I'm the only ice cream shop in town.

00:35:24.000 Not that I think we in any way compete with Rogan, you know, but we'll get, we'll get a little trickle from, uh, from the Rogan viewers, you know, who aren't watching on YouTube anymore.

00:35:32.000 Might just see how it plays out.

00:35:35.000 Should we, uh, jump over now to Reagan on the UN?

00:35:38.000 Yes, we should.

00:35:39.000 Oh gosh, this.

00:35:40.000 This is gonna be so fun!

00:35:41.000 I retweeted this because it's so silly.

00:35:43.000 It's amazing.

00:35:45.000 It's a culture-war-y, social justice kind, evenin' everybody.

00:35:50.000 How are you all doin'?

00:35:51.000 Yeah.

00:35:51.000 UN takes heat for bizarre gender-neutral language code.

00:35:57.000 Oh, man.

00:35:59.000 Sometimes I think, like, we're out of the, you know, we've made it through the forest, through the desert, the culture war, the social justice, weird, insane stuff.

00:36:06.000 Nope, it's just a ravine, and you fall back all the way down into a pit.

00:36:10.000 It's like, you're climbing the last dune, and they're like, it's just over there!

00:36:14.000 It's like, we've made it!

00:36:15.000 You climb to the top, and then it's just like the Sahara.

00:36:17.000 It's a mirage.

00:36:19.000 You fall to your knees.

00:36:20.000 It's still happening.

00:36:21.000 It's worse.

00:36:22.000 This is the UN.

00:36:23.000 So the UN tweeted out one of the stupidest things I have ever seen.

00:36:28.000 The United Nations is taking heat after posting a bizarre new dictionary of gender-neutral terms to replace more gendered words used in everyday life, with social media users expressing bewilderment and confusion at the language policing that in some cases appeared to backfire.

00:36:42.000 Quote, here's it, what you say matters.

00:36:46.000 Help create a more equal world by using gender-neutral language if you're unsure about someone's gender or are referring to a group.

00:36:53.000 Unwomen.org, I love that.

00:36:56.000 I like that.

00:36:56.000 Ironic.

00:36:56.000 Okay.

00:36:57.000 Don't say mankind.

00:36:59.000 Say humankind.

00:37:00.000 So that's ridiculous.

00:37:02.000 It's the same thing.

00:37:03.000 No.

00:37:03.000 Human.

00:37:04.000 Human.

00:37:05.000 You just threw Q in front of it.

00:37:06.000 So what?

00:37:06.000 I don't understand.

00:37:07.000 They're all equally stupid.

00:37:10.000 This is awesome.

00:37:12.000 I want you all to know that when our government gives money to the UN, this is what they are funding.

00:37:18.000 Yes, wonderful.

00:37:18.000 I'm very glad to hear that.

00:37:19.000 Don't say chairman.

00:37:21.000 Say chair.

00:37:22.000 Or chairperson.

00:37:23.000 That doesn't make any sense either.

00:37:24.000 It makes no sense.

00:37:25.000 The chair.

00:37:26.000 I'm talking to the chair.

00:37:27.000 I'm talking to the chair right now while you're crazy.

00:37:31.000 You sit on chairs.

00:37:32.000 Chairperson?

00:37:34.000 Yes.

00:37:34.000 See, that at least would make some semblance of sense.

00:37:38.000 Look at this.

00:37:39.000 Don't say congressman, say legislator.

00:37:41.000 But that's not clear.

00:37:43.000 And why can't you say congresswoman?

00:37:46.000 Right.

00:37:47.000 Isn't that what they do?

00:37:48.000 Yes.

00:37:49.000 Congresswoman and congressman.

00:37:50.000 Yeah.

00:37:51.000 Oh, it's because it's gender neutral because it might be a floorbow.

00:37:54.000 Oh, I see.

00:37:55.000 And you don't know.

00:37:56.000 So it would be Congress floorbow.

00:37:57.000 Duh.

00:37:58.000 Wait, wait.

00:37:59.000 It gets really, really, it gets so much better.

00:38:01.000 Don't say businessman, say representative.

00:38:04.000 But representative refers to Congress people.

00:38:06.000 Congress persons.

00:38:08.000 That doesn't make sense either.

00:38:09.000 None of this- Dude, dude, dude, wait.

00:38:11.000 Don't say policeman, say police officer.

00:38:13.000 Okay, so that's the first one that- That's fine.

00:38:16.000 Sure.

00:38:16.000 Whatever.

00:38:17.000 I usually say police officer anyway.

00:38:19.000 But here's what I don't understand.

00:38:20.000 Or cop, yeah.

00:38:21.000 Does an officer refer to ranking members of- An officer?

00:38:25.000 Whoa, whoa, hierarchy?

00:38:26.000 Yeah.

00:38:27.000 We can't have that.

00:38:29.000 Isn't it like once you become a lieutenant, you're an officer?

00:38:31.000 I'm not sure.

00:38:32.000 Something like that.

00:38:32.000 I guess they call all police officers.

00:38:34.000 It's weird.

00:38:34.000 Police cadets.

00:38:35.000 I guess it means like official duty.

00:38:37.000 Yeah.

00:38:38.000 Yeah, I dig that.

00:38:40.000 Oh, this next one's ridiculous.

00:38:41.000 This is the best one.

00:38:42.000 Sorry, I'm excited.

00:38:43.000 Don't say landlord, say owner.

00:38:45.000 Okay, that's it.

00:38:46.000 I'm done.

00:38:47.000 The UN just told me to refer to my landlord as my owner?

00:38:51.000 Let that sink in.

00:38:53.000 What?

00:38:53.000 Could you imagine what life would be like in the Bronx or Harlem, south side of Chicago?

00:38:57.000 Technically, you're my landlord right now.

00:38:59.000 Oh, you're his owner?

00:39:01.000 Wait, wait.

00:39:01.000 What does that mean?

00:39:03.000 I am your owner.

00:39:04.000 No, no, no, wait, wait, wait.

00:39:05.000 Here's what I want you to do.

00:39:06.000 Listen, listen.

00:39:07.000 Everybody, everybody, everybody.

00:39:10.000 Here's what I want you to do.

00:39:11.000 Go to New York.

00:39:12.000 Go to Chicago.

00:39:13.000 Go to the South Side.

00:39:15.000 Go to Harlem.

00:39:16.000 And talk to someone about rent.

00:39:18.000 And ask the individuals who live there, do you feel like your owner is treating you well?

00:39:23.000 And see how they respond to that.

00:39:25.000 Wow, I didn't even think about that.

00:39:26.000 That's brutal.

00:39:27.000 You, as a well-to-do white person, who was advised by the UN to refer to the landlords as owners, go to the minority communities and say, is your owner taking care of all of you?

00:39:37.000 They're gonna be like, what do you mean, my owner?

00:39:39.000 Yeah.

00:39:40.000 Say that again.

00:39:40.000 They're gonna get punched in the face.

00:39:42.000 Say that one more time.

00:39:43.000 Is their lucky owner?

00:39:44.000 Sorry, what did you say?

00:39:45.000 Depending on what neighborhood you're gonna get, that's the most insane.

00:39:50.000 This is really bad advice.

00:39:53.000 Like, it's dangerous.

00:39:55.000 Could you imagine being in Chicago and walking up to someone and being like, I'd like to talk to you about your owner.

00:39:59.000 Whoa.

00:40:00.000 What, dude?

00:40:01.000 What?

00:40:02.000 That's amazing.

00:40:03.000 No, that's bad.

00:40:04.000 I love this one.

00:40:05.000 Boyfriend and girlfriend say partner.

00:40:06.000 Now this one is triggering.

00:40:08.000 You know why?

00:40:09.000 Why?

00:40:10.000 Because I once had a business partner in this project.

00:40:12.000 Okay.

00:40:12.000 Business partner.

00:40:13.000 I'm like, what am I supposed to call him?

00:40:15.000 And so I was like, you know, talking to people and I kept saying, you know, my partner has set up, you know, the company and doing this.

00:40:20.000 And then someone was like, it's, it's so great that a gay couple can be out and open.

00:40:25.000 And I was like, what?

00:40:26.000 I was like, my business partner, like it's a, it's a human and we're doing a company together.

00:40:31.000 And they were like, oh.

00:40:33.000 So I'm like, I'm not going to say the word partner anymore.

00:40:35.000 I'm out.

00:40:36.000 Because it no longer refers to... Yeah, the connotation was changing and now they're trying to do this.

00:40:41.000 Yeah, they changed it one way.

00:40:42.000 Now they want it back.

00:40:43.000 The rest of them are... It's so hilarious, man.

00:40:46.000 Look at this.

00:40:46.000 Don't say salesman, say salesperson.

00:40:49.000 Well, why not just say congressperson or business person or police person?

00:40:53.000 Right.

00:40:54.000 Why?

00:40:54.000 You know?

00:40:55.000 Well, they're running out.

00:40:56.000 They're running out of alternative...

00:40:59.000 Things to say yeah Somebody somebody at the UN was like a higher-up came down

00:41:06.000 and said can you do something on like gender language like yeah?

00:41:09.000 Yeah, we'll write something up, and they had no idea how any of it works, and they were like can you just give me

00:41:14.000 some?

00:41:14.000 Words why can't you say landlord? How is landlord gendered you can say landlady?

00:41:20.000 I've said that.

00:41:21.000 What's wrong with that?

00:41:22.000 Landlady.

00:41:22.000 Yeah.

00:41:23.000 What's up with lord?

00:41:25.000 Lords and ladies?

00:41:26.000 That's the hierarchy.

00:41:27.000 A woman can't be a lord?

00:41:28.000 With a landlady.

00:41:29.000 That would be why you would say landlady.

00:41:31.000 Dude, a landlord can be female.

00:41:32.000 We just did a story.

00:41:33.000 I agree.

00:41:34.000 I just did a segment about this Antifa guy, and it turned out his landlord was his grandma.

00:41:38.000 We say landlord.

00:41:39.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:40.000 Is lord male?

00:41:41.000 Lords and ladies.

00:41:43.000 But it's like, couldn't there be, uh, well, I go to Skyrim, for example, um, one of the Jarls is a woman and it's cause her husband died and she became the Jarl.

00:41:52.000 And it's like, that's kind of the same thing as what I think as like a lord would be, you know, if like the, the male died and the woman became the lord then.

00:42:00.000 They pulled words out of hats.

00:42:02.000 That's what it is.

00:42:03.000 They reached in and were like, wait, wait.

00:42:05.000 Chair!

00:42:06.000 No, no.

00:42:07.000 They have one of those cylindrical bingo things and they're spinning it.

00:42:11.000 I got you.

00:42:13.000 I got you.

00:42:14.000 Is that what you were going to say?

00:42:15.000 There's two of them.

00:42:16.000 There's two of them this time.

00:42:17.000 Two?

00:42:17.000 Oh.

00:42:19.000 And then he pulls one out and he goes, we have chairman.

00:42:23.000 And then he pulls out chair.

00:42:25.000 They mean two different things.

00:42:26.000 Yeah.

00:42:27.000 Roll with it.

00:42:27.000 Let's go with it.

00:42:28.000 Here it gets better.

00:42:29.000 Don't say manpower, say workforce.

00:42:34.000 But what's funny is manpower and workforce mean different things.

00:42:39.000 Manpower is a reference to the energy expense you have from enough individuals.

00:42:43.000 Manpower can refer to... It means humans.

00:42:47.000 If you said, we don't have the manpower to move this boulder... That's a number of people.

00:42:51.000 Could you imagine, we don't have the workforce to move this boulder.

00:42:54.000 That's not great.

00:42:55.000 That doesn't make sense.

00:42:56.000 That's a weird way of phrasing things.

00:42:58.000 One small step for...

00:43:00.000 What would you say?

00:43:01.000 I don't know.

00:43:01.000 Don't say horsepower.

00:43:02.000 Say horse force.

00:43:04.000 Horse force.

00:43:07.000 Horse force.

00:43:09.000 Here's the next one.

00:43:10.000 This is just so dumb.

00:43:12.000 Maiden name.

00:43:13.000 Family name.

00:43:14.000 I mean, Adam, what's your family name?

00:43:15.000 Kregler.

00:43:16.000 No, no, no.

00:43:16.000 Your family name.

00:43:18.000 I thought I answered it.

00:43:19.000 What's your mom's family name?

00:43:21.000 Skoglund?

00:43:22.000 No, your family name.

00:43:23.000 You lost me.

00:43:24.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:43:25.000 Family name means your last name.

00:43:27.000 That's why I said first and you said no.

00:43:29.000 I know, that's the point.

00:43:30.000 If family name refers to both the maiden name and your current name, this makes literally no sense.

00:43:37.000 Go to them and say, so what's your family name?

00:43:39.000 It's like Poole.

00:43:40.000 No, no, no, I mean your family name.

00:43:41.000 My family name is Poole.

00:43:42.000 I mean like before you were married.

00:43:45.000 Oh, my maiden name.

00:43:46.000 Oh, yeah, okay.

00:43:47.000 Hmm.

00:43:48.000 Yes.

00:43:49.000 Okay.

00:43:50.000 You're not going to be able to change it.

00:43:51.000 How can you, how can you have a word that means like a phrase that means something?

00:43:55.000 It means two things that are contradictory.

00:43:57.000 Right.

00:43:58.000 That's a good point.

00:43:59.000 Cause not everyone takes their husband's name.

00:44:03.000 Like obviously this is about like being married and your maiden name is what it was before you got married.

00:44:09.000 Right.

00:44:09.000 Like Nisha doesn't, didn't take my name.

00:44:11.000 I don't care.

00:44:12.000 Like it makes no difference to me.

00:44:13.000 Yeah.

00:44:14.000 She still has her last name.

00:44:15.000 That's fine.

00:44:16.000 So, if you do change your name, and then you're trying to say it family name, but you've already changed your name, which is another thing people are already upset about, too, because that's antiquated, also.

00:44:28.000 You're not owned by them.

00:44:30.000 Taking names?

00:44:31.000 Yeah, taking names.

00:44:32.000 It's not like Mr. and Mrs. Adam Krigler.

00:44:35.000 That's weird.

00:44:36.000 That sounds weird to me.

00:44:38.000 No, I don't think so.

00:44:39.000 I think that's just your one family now.

00:44:41.000 And I think it makes a lot of sense.

00:44:42.000 That would be your family name.

00:44:43.000 The new family you just started.

00:44:45.000 I would actually rather us both change our name when we've actually talked about it.

00:44:49.000 Yeah, to something cool like Grand Smasher or Doomhammer or something.

00:44:53.000 No, funny enough, it probably would be my mother's maiden name.

00:44:57.000 Yeah, pick whatever you want.

00:44:58.000 Well, it was my grandfather.

00:45:00.000 He just kind of raised me as when I was younger.

00:45:03.000 Why don't we pick our own last names, man?

00:45:04.000 Yeah, that'd be good.

00:45:05.000 Like Pool.

00:45:06.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:45:07.000 What if I could have something cool, like, you know, like... Like Cool.

00:45:11.000 Like World Ender or something, you know, or like... Tim World Ender.

00:45:14.000 Deathbringer.

00:45:16.000 Deathbringer.

00:45:17.000 Sure.

00:45:17.000 Well, this is my family.

00:45:19.000 We're the Deathbringers.

00:45:20.000 The Drowning Pools.

00:45:21.000 Yeah, the Drowning Pools.

00:45:22.000 We're the Complicateds.

00:45:23.000 Yeah, ooh, I like that!

00:45:25.000 No, that actually does the harumphs.

00:45:27.000 That actually makes sense that you'd start a new family and have a new family name.

00:45:31.000 That's funny.

00:45:32.000 But I think it actually makes sense.

00:45:34.000 Like, if you marry someone and have kids, you're now a family unit was the name of your family.

00:45:38.000 Yeah.

00:45:38.000 It's like your clan, almost, you know?

00:45:40.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:45:41.000 So, this is just more nonsense.

00:45:43.000 Husband and wife, say spouse.

00:45:45.000 Why?

00:45:45.000 No.

00:45:46.000 Why?

00:45:46.000 Who cares?

00:45:46.000 You need to clarify which is which.

00:45:47.000 But she is my wife.

00:45:49.000 Well, I guess you could be in a gay relationship or something.

00:45:51.000 Then you use spouse or your husband if you're in a gay relationship.

00:45:55.000 Well, no, what they're saying is like... If you're traditional or you're non-traditional, it's like whatever you want to do.

00:46:00.000 Well, no, but what I think they're saying is that if I went to you and I don't know you and I said, is your wife coming?

00:46:06.000 I'd be making an assumption about the gender of your partner.

00:46:08.000 Right, so that would make sense in that situation to use spouse.

00:46:11.000 Spouse?

00:46:12.000 Is your spouse coming?

00:46:13.000 Esposa?

00:46:14.000 Is your esposa?

00:46:15.000 Esposa?

00:46:17.000 Yeah.

00:46:17.000 Isn't esposo?

00:46:18.000 Is it?

00:46:19.000 Yeah, male, I think.

00:46:21.000 That's my Spanish.

00:46:21.000 The funniest thing about all this language stuff is that Spanish is like... Oh yeah, throws all this out the window.

00:46:25.000 Do you know how they do like the X's?

00:46:28.000 Latinx?

00:46:28.000 Latinx.

00:46:29.000 Like Kleenex?

00:46:31.000 Oh, okay.

00:46:31.000 Just the way they say it.

00:46:33.000 The sound.

00:46:34.000 Latino.

00:46:36.000 The progressives change the O's and the A's to X's.

00:46:39.000 Okay.

00:46:40.000 You can't speak Spanish that way.

00:46:42.000 Like, mi parex es mi amigix.

00:46:47.000 No one's gonna be like, what?

00:46:48.000 You're not saying words.

00:46:50.000 Gender is a huge part of that language.

00:46:52.000 Isn't it a big part of all romance languages though?

00:46:56.000 Not English.

00:46:56.000 Not every language.

00:46:57.000 English is Germanic.

00:46:59.000 Romance language is yes.

00:47:01.000 There's a male and female version of everything.

00:47:04.000 Doesn't Swedish have no gender or something?

00:47:06.000 They have a third word for the people that aren't like his or her and then the third that isn't.

00:47:14.000 But what do you mean?

00:47:15.000 We have they.

00:47:17.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:47:18.000 They is plural.

00:47:19.000 Like, they doesn't make sense.

00:47:21.000 Like, we've talked about it.

00:47:22.000 It doesn't make sense all the time.

00:47:23.000 No, no, no.

00:47:23.000 It makes sense in the context of an individual that is a noun.

00:47:28.000 Right, specifically, specifically.

00:47:29.000 But they have a word.

00:47:31.000 There's him, her, and the third, which...

00:47:34.000 Essentially, Florbo, but it's been in their language for a while.

00:47:37.000 That's why I'm saying Florbo, man.

00:47:38.000 Y'all laughing at me.

00:47:39.000 Y'all laughed at me.

00:47:40.000 Florbo.

00:47:40.000 He's ahead of his time.

00:47:41.000 Florbo, yo.

00:47:42.000 We have a word that specifically references non-traditional gender.

00:47:46.000 Straight up.

00:47:46.000 I don't gotta say it.

00:47:47.000 I don't gotta say they.

00:47:48.000 I just say Florbo.

00:47:49.000 Floorbo kind.

00:47:51.000 Chair Floorbo.

00:47:53.000 Congress Floorbo.

00:47:55.000 Police Floorbo.

00:47:56.000 Gender neutral.

00:47:57.000 This is fun.

00:47:58.000 Land Floorbo.

00:47:59.000 Fire Floorbo.

00:48:00.000 Water Floorbo.

00:48:01.000 Garbage Floorbo.

00:48:03.000 It's got a good flow to it.

00:48:05.000 I thought Floorbo was like a funny, foofy, fluffy word.

00:48:09.000 It's soft.

00:48:11.000 Yeah, it should invoke visions of cute, puffy little marshmallow creatures that want to hug you.

00:48:15.000 When you first told me that, all I could picture was flubber.

00:48:20.000 You see, there you go!

00:48:20.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:48:22.000 The rubbery, bouncy stuff.

00:48:23.000 Robin Williams.

00:48:24.000 I was like, okay, that's a little silly, but sure.

00:48:27.000 A little cute, jiggly little guy who bounces around.

00:48:29.000 It's happy and bouncing.

00:48:31.000 I pictured flowers.

00:48:32.000 It's floral.

00:48:32.000 Right?

00:48:33.000 Boom.

00:48:34.000 Flowers.

00:48:35.000 I imagine a puffy little marshmallow creature that wants to smile and give you a hug.

00:48:38.000 Okay.

00:48:39.000 Yeah, that's cute.

00:48:40.000 I'm like, how could anyone get mad?

00:48:41.000 This was the ultimate solution, in my opinion, because the idea was like, if they want you to say they or ze or zer, some people get offended by being told what to say.

00:48:52.000 Some people get offended by not being called the thing they want to be called.

00:48:55.000 The compromise is to make up a new word that has no connotations, no connection to everything.

00:49:00.000 And I'm like, there's a lot of words that might be too close to one thing.

00:49:02.000 I'm like, Florbo.

00:49:03.000 Yeah, it's funny because that was the one thing I always said, was like, the they thing, they them, is confusing to a lot of people because we're taught it's a plural part of it.

00:49:12.000 But it is!

00:49:12.000 I know, and it makes sense in very specific sentences, like you explained, but we needed a new word to come up with something, and Florbo Probably wouldn't be what I came up with, but I can't, I didn't come up with anything.

00:49:26.000 I wanted to be random.

00:49:27.000 That's great.

00:49:28.000 Random, and like nobody's used it as an insult or anything like that.

00:49:31.000 People say it, you know, passively, kind of humorously.

00:49:34.000 It's like, the they thing is funny because I was talking recently, I think with Lydia, about they them.

00:49:42.000 Okay.

00:49:43.000 It's like it makes sense when you say a lawyer walks in the room.

00:49:46.000 Uh, they handed me a, you know, a briefcase, right?

00:49:50.000 Cause you don't know if it's a male or female.

00:49:51.000 Well, actually, if it was a reference to you, you would say here, she, cause you

00:49:55.000 know, but if you said like a lawyer, uh, you know, fell down the stairs at, you

00:49:59.000 know, this office building, they broke both their legs because you don't know.

00:50:02.000 Right.

00:50:03.000 But then what if you said like, uh, what, what, what was the sentence?

00:50:07.000 Something like... I don't remember.

00:50:09.000 A lawyer sold a customer a book.

00:50:12.000 They charged them 50 bucks.

00:50:13.000 If you then said, a lawyer sold a book and the cashier bagged it, they charged the customer 50 bucks.

00:50:20.000 They is a reference to like both of them, I guess.

00:50:22.000 But that makes no sense.

00:50:22.000 Would it be the cashier who sold them?

00:50:24.000 The cashier is the one who bagged it.

00:50:26.000 You don't learn anything.

00:50:27.000 So in actual language, we would say, a lawyer sold someone, you know, sold the customer the book, the cashier bagged it, the lawyer charged $50.

00:50:35.000 You go back to the proper, like the back to the description of it.

00:50:35.000 You know what I mean?

00:50:38.000 That's why I think the problem with the they stuff and this gender neutral stuff is like, it's almost like a child coming to you and being like, could you imagine a little kid, seven years old, whose name is like, you know, Billy Wadson?

00:50:38.000 Right.

00:50:51.000 Okay.

00:50:51.000 And he's like, no, from now on, my name is Hawk Battle Smasher.

00:50:55.000 You'd be like, your name is not Hawk Battle Smasher.

00:50:57.000 That's stupid.

00:50:58.000 No, it's cool.

00:50:59.000 I'm Hawk Battle Smasher.

00:51:01.000 It is pretty cool.

00:51:04.000 Doomhammer.

00:51:06.000 Yeah.

00:51:06.000 He's a Warcraft names.

00:51:08.000 Seven year old.

00:51:09.000 But it's like, that's a lot of what we're getting.

00:51:12.000 Did you see that thing with the, I briefly mentioned, I like alluded to it, the deer person.

00:51:16.000 Yeah.

00:51:17.000 The person identifies as a deer.

00:51:18.000 Yeah.

00:51:19.000 I know about this.

00:51:21.000 I wanted to talk about it, but I don't know if I want to talk about it.

00:51:24.000 Well, we're not gonna show it and we're gonna be light on it because I'm fully prepared to get banned.

00:51:29.000 You know what?

00:51:30.000 I could say this though.

00:51:31.000 I was thinking about going on Twitch and not anymore.

00:51:34.000 No way.

00:51:35.000 I have zero interest in streaming on Twitch.

00:51:38.000 That skewed me out.

00:51:39.000 They're asking me to stream games like I've been thinking about it.

00:51:39.000 Yeah.

00:51:43.000 I did actually sign into to I got a twitch account I was prepped and ready and then this whole thing came out and I was like This is the person who's moderating twitch one of them like what twitch has always been bad all gamers are white supremacists What yep?

00:51:57.000 Get out of here.

00:51:58.000 I'm out of here.

00:51:58.000 That's what the deer person said.

00:52:01.000 Just telling the truth.

00:52:01.000 Yeah, I know.

00:52:01.000 Exactly.

00:52:01.000 It's ridiculous.

00:52:03.000 And like these creepy videos where they're like moaning.

00:52:07.000 It's crazy.

00:52:08.000 And there's one video where the deer person was eating what looks like a nug of pot or something.

00:52:13.000 It's just weird.

00:52:15.000 You know what I think it is?

00:52:16.000 I'm totally prepared to get banned over this to talk about it.

00:52:20.000 Oh, I love it.

00:52:21.000 Go for it.

00:52:22.000 This person, I believe it's voyeurism.

00:52:24.000 Okay.

00:52:25.000 What is that, voyeurism?

00:52:26.000 It's like you get off on people watching you either be humiliated or engaging in certain activities.

00:52:30.000 Oh, okay.

00:52:31.000 So there are people who have a fetish for humiliation.

00:52:35.000 Okay.

00:52:35.000 So you think about what this person is doing.

00:52:37.000 I think it's like a fetish.

00:52:38.000 They go on camera and they make weird noises and they act completely in a messed up way.

00:52:44.000 Because when I was looking at some of the statements made, because I think the Daily Beast did a story about this deer person.

00:52:48.000 Okay.

00:52:49.000 They're into it.

00:52:50.000 They were like, I want to do these videos.

00:52:52.000 It was something that I thought would be embarrassing and blah, blah, blah.

00:52:55.000 And I'm like, yeah, they're, they're into this.

00:52:58.000 They, they, they get off on this.

00:52:59.000 That's not normal.

00:53:00.000 They like, it's, it's, it's, it's not normal, but to an extent I'm fine with it.

00:53:05.000 You know, if people have this thing, the problem is this person seems to be This is where we're gonna get banned.

00:53:13.000 I'm just gonna say it.

00:53:14.000 Dive deep, dude.

00:53:15.000 Mentally ill.

00:53:16.000 Completely.

00:53:17.000 Yeah, you said that.

00:53:18.000 We've talked about this before.

00:53:19.000 No, but that's a bannable offense.

00:53:21.000 Saying, like, this person is... You said, I think.

00:53:25.000 No, no, it doesn't matter.

00:53:26.000 Does that make a difference?

00:53:28.000 I don't care, I'm gonna say it because this needs to be said.

00:53:30.000 This is not meant to be disrespectful toward this person.

00:53:33.000 Voyeurism, I think, if people are into that stuff, that's fine.

00:53:36.000 The issue is, this is someone who is unwell And going on camera being like, people need to be afraid of me.

00:53:44.000 And now we can see that there are these- They did say that.

00:53:46.000 Yeah, there are these companies.

00:53:48.000 Here's what I think happens.

00:53:50.000 When people live in reality, like when you live in the real world, in IRL, real world.

00:53:54.000 When you walk into a job, they're looking for a candidate.

00:53:54.000 Right, right, right.

00:53:58.000 And, you know, Mr. Crickler walks in, and they say, look at this guy, he looks like some, you know, hippy-dippy, long-haired, you know.

00:54:04.000 Are you a hippy?

00:54:05.000 Oh, okay, well you can have the job then.

00:54:07.000 And you walk in and you're like, hi, my name is, you know, I'm Tim, nice to meet you.

00:54:10.000 I'm here for the moderator position.

00:54:11.000 They say, okay.

00:54:12.000 But when you live on the internet, you craft this shell over what you really are.

00:54:17.000 Persona.

00:54:17.000 Yeah.

00:54:18.000 Yeah, a persona.

00:54:19.000 People don't see what you really are.

00:54:20.000 Okay.

00:54:21.000 And so this gives opportunity for people who normally wouldn't be in these positions, who are mentally ill, and in a variety of ways, to now be in positions of power.

00:54:31.000 Yep.

00:54:32.000 And then when they go on camera, it's devastating to your company.

00:54:36.000 So, like, I've had a lot of conversations about, you know, will we do this show on Twitch?

00:54:41.000 And I gotta keep that very, very, very vague.

00:54:43.000 The answer right now is an overwhelming and resounding no.

00:54:46.000 Absolutely not.

00:54:48.000 Absolutely not.

00:54:49.000 Definitely not.

00:54:50.000 So, I don't know too much about this person, but I do know that there's an infiltration of people on trust and safety teams.

00:54:57.000 Think about, you know, if you guys haven't seen these videos, you know, you can check it out.

00:55:04.000 I'm not here to drag this person.

00:55:05.000 I'm not gonna say their name.

00:55:06.000 And maybe that's good enough not to get banned or whatever, to get a strike or something.

00:55:09.000 But you can look this stuff up.

00:55:11.000 I'm pretty sure there's other deer people out there.

00:55:13.000 Deer floor bows.

00:55:13.000 Yeah.

00:55:14.000 There must be many of them.

00:55:15.000 Right?

00:55:15.000 Yeah.

00:55:16.000 I don't know.

00:55:16.000 Lots.

00:55:17.000 I'm sure I don't know either.

00:55:20.000 I had to take care of a bug.

00:55:21.000 There's a bug!

00:55:22.000 You can look at what this person is doing and then when you realize the kind of personalities, I'll put it that way, are moderating these websites, you also have to understand that it's these people who go on Twitter and like this person said something like voice chat is unfair to like marginalized peoples and women or something.

00:55:45.000 Right.

00:55:46.000 Yeah, I don't get it.

00:55:46.000 get implemented because one person who is developmentally disabled gets power.

00:55:55.000 It's crazy to me that Twitch, that Google, that Facebook are scared of this.

00:55:59.000 Yeah, I don't get it.

00:56:00.000 What's the line, man?

00:56:01.000 What is there to be afraid of?

00:56:02.000 Like, look, I understand there's a fear of like the fascist who says like, you know,

00:56:07.000 do away with the invalids.

00:56:08.000 Like, that's horrifying.

00:56:09.000 We don't do that.

00:56:10.000 We care about people.

00:56:11.000 Right.

00:56:11.000 We also don't put people who are developmentally disabled in positions of, you know, intellectual jobs.

00:56:17.000 Like, there's a difference between saying, like, I doubt that person's getting paid for their position.

00:56:23.000 They're probably overjoyed to just have some power.

00:56:25.000 Like, ooh, I've got power.

00:56:27.000 I'm pretty sure it's a job, because the rumor is that that person got fired.

00:56:31.000 Oh, recently?

00:56:31.000 That's a rumor.

00:56:32.000 Yeah, that's a rumor.

00:56:33.000 It's happened?

00:56:34.000 No, I don't know.

00:56:34.000 That's what people are saying, that this person has been fired.

00:56:37.000 They should be fired for the things that they were saying.

00:56:40.000 It's ridiculous.

00:56:41.000 That does not look good.

00:56:42.000 I mean... You should be scared of me.

00:56:44.000 I have the power now.

00:56:46.000 Should somebody be fired for saying stupid things on the internet?

00:56:49.000 If you're in a position that you're a moderator of something like Twitch, which is huge.

00:56:55.000 Twitch is huge.

00:56:56.000 That's where most of the gaming streams happen.

00:56:59.000 So yes, I think so.

00:57:01.000 If you're going to openly admit that you're not going to be fair and you're clearly biased against most people that aren't you, then yeah, you should be fired.

00:57:10.000 That all gamers are white supremacists?

00:57:11.000 Yeah, that's ridiculous.

00:57:12.000 It was something like that.

00:57:13.000 I think they said most gamers are white supremacists.

00:57:18.000 And we're saying they because I genuinely don't know anything about this person other than they identify as a deer.

00:57:23.000 That's true.

00:57:24.000 And these videos are weird.

00:57:26.000 So, you know, it's funny because I remember the conversations at various organizations where it's like, don't say the word normal.

00:57:34.000 And so it's like, how do you refer to an average person?

00:57:37.000 Average?

00:57:38.000 Average, I guess.

00:57:39.000 So you say the average person.

00:57:40.000 Without saying normal?

00:57:41.000 You can't say normal.

00:57:42.000 Normal is offensive.

00:57:43.000 What does normal mean?

00:57:43.000 What is normal?

00:57:45.000 You know?

00:57:45.000 Are you saying I'm not normal?

00:57:47.000 Average.

00:57:48.000 You are not average.

00:57:50.000 Right.

00:57:50.000 So we can protect marginalized communities, but I'll put it this way.

00:57:54.000 If somebody's in a wheelchair, we create a wheelchair ramp.

00:57:57.000 Yeah.

00:57:57.000 We don't give them a job, you know, as like a professional runner.

00:58:02.000 Or like a hockey referee.

00:58:04.000 Yeah.

00:58:04.000 Seriously?

00:58:05.000 Yeah.

00:58:05.000 That would make sense.

00:58:06.000 Or, you know, and even outside of that, in more general understanding of biology, I will never be in the NBA.

00:58:15.000 There was like, maybe a .000001% chance of me, in my life, following the right path to somehow make it in the NBA.

00:58:23.000 I don't know, you got the leg muscles.

00:58:26.000 I do, I can jump really high.

00:58:27.000 I can jump very high.

00:58:28.000 But not like Muggsy Bogues, man.

00:58:30.000 That dude was like, what was he, 5'3", and he could 360 dunk?

00:58:32.000 That dude was amazing.

00:58:34.000 Presumably still is, I don't know anything about him, but there's biological reality.

00:58:40.000 You know, if you don't have legs, you're not going to be a leg model.

00:58:44.000 So I think about it this way, when we see these people moderating for Twitch and other companies, it would be like taking someone who has a clear developmental disability and being like, we're going to put you in as a chess grandmaster, as a chess player.

00:58:57.000 And it's like, but that doesn't make sense.

00:58:59.000 Like you wouldn't get an architect who can't architect.

00:59:03.000 You know?

00:59:04.000 And this is what we end up getting.

00:59:05.000 Now here's the scariest thing to go back to this point is, or I guess we can just ask, why is YouTube afraid of these people?

00:59:14.000 Yeah, why?

00:59:16.000 That's a good question.

00:59:16.000 Why?

00:59:17.000 What is the reason?

00:59:18.000 You know, because it's such a minority.

00:59:21.000 You know why?

00:59:22.000 They're the screamers.

00:59:23.000 Yeah.

00:59:24.000 They're the ones that are reeing the loudest.

00:59:26.000 Yeah.

00:59:27.000 Yeah, man.

00:59:28.000 You know what it might be?

00:59:29.000 It might be that regular people will just say, I don't care, I don't want to fight.

00:59:32.000 Yeah.

00:59:33.000 Yeah, actually, this lines up.

00:59:35.000 It's like this general idea.

00:59:36.000 So the way I've explained it before is, for all those of you who are listening, you probably know Sargon of Akkad is.

00:59:42.000 The thing, I love this because it's the most absurd way to frame it.

00:59:45.000 Do you think Sargon of Akkad will form a large group of liberalists and march down a Twitter HQ with pitchforks demanding that, you know, they get reinstated, otherwise they're going to smash windows up?

00:59:54.000 The answer is, No way!

00:59:56.000 He's a gentleman!

00:59:57.000 Very posh.

00:59:57.000 Sargon like he's not gonna lead any kind of like violent anything

01:00:01.000 He'll come down with a with a camera and a microphone and ask you questions and complain about his rights

01:00:05.000 Will Antifa show up with with crowbars and Molotovs?

01:00:09.000 Absolutely. Absolutely So these companies know don't make Antifa angry. They're

01:00:14.000 the ones who get violent. They'll come after you and So that's what they bend the knee to

01:00:18.000 And then you end up with a trans species deer person going on stream and saying people should be afraid of me because they're all white supremacists and stuff like that.

01:00:28.000 Oh man.

01:00:29.000 And that's the moderation we get.

01:00:30.000 Yeah.

01:00:31.000 Well, I am terrified.

01:00:32.000 I'm out.

01:00:33.000 You're out?

01:00:33.000 That's it?

01:00:34.000 No Twitch.

01:00:35.000 Well, and then you see the UN.

01:00:37.000 It's also like... It's spreading.

01:00:39.000 But it's fake.

01:00:41.000 So it's a fake disease.

01:00:42.000 It's kind of like, how do I explain it?

01:00:44.000 It's like, I'm imagining the color is slowly being drained from the room.

01:00:48.000 Like you're sitting in a room, and in the corner it's like you have all these brilliant colors, and then all of a sudden the colors, everything starts turning black and white.

01:00:54.000 And you're like, that is spreading.

01:00:57.000 It makes no sense.

01:00:58.000 Or it's like, imagine your room starts to turn a splotch of weird tie-dye colors that's growing and growing and growing in your house.

01:01:05.000 What the UN is saying here with these words makes literally no sense.

01:01:09.000 So the UN's tweet saying, you know, don't say landlord, say owner.

01:01:14.000 That clearly is the opposite of social justice, to refer to someone who owns property as your owner.

01:01:19.000 Regressing.

01:01:19.000 My owner just raised my rent.

01:01:22.000 That clearly makes no sense.

01:01:23.000 Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

01:01:24.000 And so what do you think would happen?

01:01:25.000 Imagine this.

01:01:27.000 If someone was on stream and that was the rule they were enforcing from now on, you can't say landlord.

01:01:31.000 You gotta say owner.

01:01:33.000 You gotta go on stream and you can't say that word.

01:01:34.000 You gotta refer to someone as your, as your owner.

01:01:36.000 That's weird.

01:01:37.000 It's like, it's like not a real thing.

01:01:40.000 I guess the easiest way to put it is there's no structure to any of it.

01:01:42.000 Yeah.

01:01:43.000 So like you ask any of these people, what do you want me to do?

01:01:47.000 And they'll say, stop being a bigot.

01:01:48.000 And you're like, please explain what that means.

01:01:51.000 No, I just get to call you a bigot and be upset.

01:01:53.000 So whatever you do is wrong.

01:01:54.000 You should be afraid.

01:01:55.000 And I'm changing the rules every day.

01:01:56.000 You should be afraid of me is the easiest way to sum up what these people are.

01:02:00.000 And that's what that person said.

01:02:02.000 Yeah.

01:02:02.000 Verbalize it.

01:02:03.000 Oh, okay.

01:02:04.000 At least you're honest.

01:02:05.000 Saying the quiet part loud.

01:02:07.000 Yeah.

01:02:07.000 That's what they're thinking.

01:02:08.000 Yep.

01:02:09.000 You should be afraid of me.

01:02:10.000 It's like, I can only imagine somebody who's got a developmental disability, who

01:02:16.000 thinks they're a deer, didn't fit in and is upset and now wants to flex that power

01:02:23.000 That's exactly what it is.

01:02:24.000 Or some kind of power against other people.

01:02:26.000 And then they get online and they start banning people.

01:02:30.000 And then these companies say, but we're not biased at all.

01:02:32.000 There's no bias.

01:02:34.000 Yeah, Twitch is done, man.

01:02:35.000 They've already had a lot of problems with popular females who break the rules in such obvious ways.

01:02:43.000 There was one video, and I'll be very vague on this, but the assertion was at this woman.

01:02:49.000 Did a nip slip.

01:02:50.000 Oopsie.

01:02:50.000 On accident?

01:02:51.000 Oopsie.

01:02:53.000 Sure.

01:02:53.000 Oh no, I was trying to take something off then my, you know, don't ban me please.

01:02:57.000 They get away with it.

01:02:59.000 And then there was like one, there was one big thing.

01:03:01.000 One of the reasons why I'm very averse to Twitch is there was apparently something happened where there was like, it was this like gamers versus thoughts war.

01:03:08.000 Okay.

01:03:10.000 When Twitch first started, it was built up by the gamer community.

01:03:13.000 People who were like, we're gonna stream games and we're gonna, you know, have fun.

01:03:15.000 Yeah.

01:03:16.000 And then a bunch of, you know, like, hot chicks realized they could... Thoughts?

01:03:20.000 Yeah, thoughts.

01:03:21.000 They could do this thing where... I think that might be bannable too, to be honest.

01:03:25.000 But they did this thing where they were like, you can sit in a chair leaning back with your legs spread and like, then lean forward to the camera so you can see cleavage and they would get money.

01:03:33.000 Yeah.

01:03:34.000 And so this started breeding this and Twitch leaned into it like, hey, we're making loot, you know?

01:03:38.000 Yeah.

01:03:39.000 Seems fair.

01:03:39.000 gamers got mad about it. And so apparently this one guy, I don't remember a whole lot of the story,

01:03:43.000 made a video calling this out and he got banned from Twitch.

01:03:47.000 And the women he was calling out that were breaking the rules didn't get banned. Seems fair.

01:03:51.000 Yep. Twitch is, it's Amazon now though, but man, we're, man, things are bad. Maybe Spotify

01:03:59.000 will be better. That sounds pretty good.

01:04:03.000 I'm pretty excited to see what Spotify is doing.

01:04:06.000 But I don't... I'd be surprised if they have an open upload for videos.

01:04:11.000 But if they did, I'd totally sign up right now.

01:04:13.000 I'd just upload everything right now.

01:04:14.000 Yeah.

01:04:16.000 Well, we got... What's the next one?

01:04:18.000 Should we do the Batwoman?

01:04:19.000 Aliens?

01:04:20.000 What should we talk about?

01:04:21.000 We'll jump to Super Chats.

01:04:22.000 Yeah, let's jump to Super Chats.

01:04:23.000 Say what up to everybody.

01:04:25.000 We'll talk about Batwoman.

01:04:27.000 Considering we're on a social justice tear.

01:04:29.000 The UFO is not spinning.

01:04:32.000 Please, allow me.

01:04:34.000 For those that are listening, Adam is now using the electric duster to spin the UFO to make sure people are satisfied.

01:04:41.000 There you go.

01:04:43.000 That should be enough.

01:04:44.000 The UFO is spinning now.

01:04:45.000 That's for you, chat.

01:04:47.000 We are now going to head over to Super Chats.

01:04:49.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button, just bash into your table, and no, I'm kidding.

01:04:53.000 But yeah, the like button really does help.

01:04:55.000 Rest in peace, keyboard.

01:04:56.000 Hop into Super Chats if you'd like to.

01:04:58.000 Well, I guess that would be the mouse.

01:05:00.000 I gotta be completely honest with all of y'all.

01:05:02.000 We got over 12,000 current viewers.

01:05:04.000 Oh, wow, nice.

01:05:05.000 Very grateful, everyone, for being here.

01:05:06.000 I don't know if we'll be able to get to every Super Chat because of that.

01:05:10.000 So we still have... I really want to talk about Batwoman because we're on the social justice tear.

01:05:15.000 Oh yeah, it's basically in line with that.

01:05:16.000 We were supposed to talk about aliens.

01:05:18.000 Oh man, aliens are so cool.

01:05:18.000 I think last week, right?

01:05:20.000 Yeah, someone even said, like, weren't they supposed to talk about aliens?

01:05:23.000 We just talked about social justice.

01:05:25.000 I think it was Friday, actually, yeah.

01:05:26.000 It was Friday.

01:05:27.000 Navy fighter jets that locked onto a UFO.

01:05:29.000 Yes!

01:05:30.000 Oh, I want to hear about this.

01:05:32.000 Yes, I saw the article, but we didn't read into it, so I was like, oh, man.

01:05:36.000 We got to talk about Batwoman next, though.

01:05:38.000 Oh, goodness.

01:05:39.000 All right, let's see.

01:05:41.000 Kyle Buchanan says, just ordered the new shirt.

01:05:43.000 Tim, you make too much content.

01:05:44.000 I get up at 5, and the stream starts at 7 for me.

01:05:47.000 I want to watch all your vids and watch here.

01:05:50.000 I do.

01:05:51.000 I think I put out three hours and 40 minutes every day.

01:05:55.000 Christian says, awesome show last Friday.

01:05:57.000 Keep up the great job.

01:05:58.000 I'll keep sending the money.

01:05:59.000 Appreciate it.

01:06:00.000 Thank you.

01:06:00.000 Someone just mentioned they bought a shirt.

01:06:02.000 I just want to shout out to Wombat Crusader.

01:06:05.000 Thank you very much for that design.

01:06:07.000 You sent it to me earlier today, and within four hours, you had sent me the graphic, and we turned it into a t-shirt.

01:06:14.000 And you can actually all check it out.

01:06:15.000 You can buy it right now on the Teespring.

01:06:17.000 You just look below at the merch link.

01:06:20.000 And you can get it.

01:06:21.000 It's the Haram Faisay t-shirt with him.

01:06:24.000 It's genius.

01:06:25.000 It's me in a tuxedo.

01:06:26.000 It's so good.

01:06:27.000 Thank you very much.

01:06:28.000 That was amazing.

01:06:29.000 It's me in a tuxedo with a pipe with bubbles coming out of it and it says Haram Faisay and I have a monocle and it's a brilliant, brilliant graphic.

01:06:36.000 It's very condescending looking and I love it.

01:06:38.000 It's wonderful.

01:06:39.000 Thank you very much.

01:06:39.000 Just click it and go to the store.

01:06:41.000 You can see it if you want to get it.

01:06:42.000 So that was some fan art and I really appreciate it.

01:06:44.000 Yeah, it's awesome.

01:06:44.000 Thank you very much.

01:06:45.000 And hopefully they make one for you.

01:06:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:47.000 No, he's gonna do it.

01:06:49.000 I talked to him about it, so he's gonna, he's probably working on it.

01:06:52.000 Right on.

01:06:52.000 Mark says, Ivanka 2024 first female president.

01:06:55.000 I think it's a strong possibility.

01:06:57.000 We'll see.

01:06:58.000 Peter Watkins, y'all skipped me yesterday, but a number of states suspended the rights to a speedy trial, and now inmates from Michigan and other states are filing to be freed based on due process rights.

01:07:08.000 Wow.

01:07:09.000 It's all just breaking apart, I suppose.

01:07:11.000 Yeah.

01:07:12.000 Interesting.

01:07:12.000 says you're all great, keep up the good work, we will, thank you.

01:07:15.000 Kyla says Newsom said first responders are first fired without federal relief for the

01:07:19.000 $54 billion debt.

01:07:21.000 Bought first skateboard today, thoughts on carbon fiber decks?

01:07:25.000 Interesting.

01:07:26.000 You tried one?

01:07:28.000 Technically yes.

01:07:30.000 I've carbon-fibered decks myself.

01:07:33.000 It's like a sheet that you kind of apply.

01:07:36.000 I don't know if it's a full carbon fiber board.

01:07:40.000 Probably some flies, I'd imagine.

01:07:43.000 That's interesting.

01:07:44.000 I've only ever carbon-fibered a board and skated it and it adds like a Extreme rigidity, so it's very, very stiff.

01:07:52.000 It probably has really good pop.

01:07:54.000 That would be good as a base layer for a bamboo board.

01:07:56.000 Probably.

01:07:56.000 Yeah, it lasts forever.

01:07:58.000 Interesting.

01:07:59.000 Alright.

01:08:00.000 Ben Ritter says, YouTube has been my place for watching people like Rogan almost exclusively.

01:08:05.000 I don't know if I can even remember to follow him anywhere else.

01:08:08.000 We'll see.

01:08:08.000 Also, play Election Year Knockout.

01:08:11.000 Yeah, can you take that note down and we'll look at it?

01:08:13.000 Election Year Knockout?

01:08:15.000 DeTeg says, just bought Mr. Robot.

01:08:17.000 Any thoughts on the series?

01:08:18.000 It seems like Hacker is talking to the establishment and China would be right up your alley.

01:08:22.000 I tried watching it.

01:08:23.000 I saw the first season.

01:08:25.000 I liked it and I didn't like it.

01:08:27.000 I tried watching one episode and it was just, it made no sense.

01:08:30.000 So I just stopped.

01:08:31.000 I'm like, I don't, I don't know what this is, man.

01:08:33.000 Yeah, I don't remember.

01:08:33.000 I kind of just stopped watching it.

01:08:35.000 So it must've been not good enough to keep my attention.

01:08:39.000 Yep.

01:08:39.000 That's why I did not cover it.

01:08:40.000 It sounds fake.

01:08:41.000 I didn't listen to it, so I don't know.

01:08:42.000 Fake.

01:08:42.000 leaked call that surfaced today Donald Trump Jr. retweeted it it sounds fake

01:08:47.000 that's why I did not cover it it sounds fake I didn't listen to it so I don't

01:08:52.000 know fake listen man there's a phone call and these videos get released if

01:08:59.000 It was apparently leaked by an MP in Ukraine, and it was picked up by, like, the Kyiv Post.

01:09:04.000 There haven't been any, you know, US mainstream outlets that are picking it up, probably because some journalists are probably working to vet it.

01:09:10.000 Many can't, and many refuse to.

01:09:12.000 I would say most refuse to, because it would make Biden look bad.

01:09:15.000 However, I listened to the calls, and it doesn't sound real, man.

01:09:20.000 Like, at one point, Poroshenko, allegedly, as Poroshenko says, he's the former president of Ukraine, he's like, you know, he's like, Joe, it's great to hear your voice, you know, it's always a pleasure.

01:09:30.000 You know, as discussed, I reached out to former, you know, Prosecutor Shokin, and despite there being no evidence of corruption, you know, he agreed to resign.

01:09:38.000 And I'm like, why would he say that?

01:09:41.000 That's, like, not a thing.

01:09:42.000 Unless it's possible.

01:09:44.000 He knew that Joe Biden was shaking him down, so he made sure he recorded the call, and he made sure to say as clearly as possible what was happening.

01:09:51.000 That could be the case.

01:09:52.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:09:54.000 Is it authenticated?

01:09:55.000 Is it a real, undockered phone call?

01:09:58.000 Here's what's weird about it.

01:09:59.000 Normally when you're hearing a recording where one person's in the room and one person's on the phone, there's a noise, a buzz or a static or an air.

01:10:08.000 When the person on the phone is talking?

01:10:11.000 No, like always.

01:10:12.000 Oh, okay.

01:10:12.000 So you hear like a... Yeah, just like the white noise.

01:10:15.000 Yeah, some white noise.

01:10:16.000 The weird thing about this video is that Poroshenko talks, then Biden talks, and there's white noise in him talking, and the white noise disappears.

01:10:24.000 That sounds like it was an edit.

01:10:25.000 So it sounds doctored.

01:10:27.000 It does.

01:10:28.000 I'm not saying it is for sure.

01:10:29.000 It could be, you know, that he put it on mute or something when he was talking.

01:10:32.000 I don't know.

01:10:33.000 But it'll have to be authenticated.

01:10:35.000 Yeah.

01:10:36.000 You know what I could probably do?

01:10:37.000 And I'll do this later.

01:10:39.000 I can take the audio files from YouTube and put them in and see if it looks like there was digital manipulation because I can see that.

01:10:45.000 Oh, okay.

01:10:45.000 And we'll look into it.

01:10:47.000 But I'm seeing a lot of people are talking about it.

01:10:49.000 For now, it's not corroborated.

01:10:52.000 I'll do my best and we'll see what we can uncover.

01:10:54.000 I listened to it.

01:10:55.000 I didn't think it sounded real.

01:10:58.000 Okay, let's see where we at.

01:10:59.000 Blake says, if YouTube goes belly up, what's your backup plan?

01:11:02.000 Van?

01:11:02.000 River?

01:11:03.000 Down by the... Yes.

01:11:04.000 Chuck Morris says, spodcast the Beanie Sun.

01:11:07.000 Texas bound.

01:11:09.000 Maximan and Cheese, gov COVID response equals Stanford prison experiment?

01:11:14.000 Maybe, I don't know.

01:11:15.000 David Caballeros, hey Adam, is nut milk not milk?

01:11:20.000 It's milk.

01:11:21.000 It's not milk.

01:11:22.000 I mean, it's not milk, but it, I mean, it's... It's a creamy, delicious drink.

01:11:26.000 Yeah, I mean, it's funny, the milk industry has been fighting to make it illegal to call other things milk because they're losing so much business.

01:11:37.000 I'm just over here laughing.

01:11:41.000 I stopped the dairy last week.

01:11:44.000 Yeah, you did.

01:11:44.000 You stopped dairy.

01:11:46.000 You've noticed.

01:11:47.000 I've been feeling better than ever.

01:11:48.000 Yeah, totally.

01:11:49.000 And a lot of people are going to be like, no, Tim, don't do it.

01:11:52.000 She's great.

01:11:54.000 So I had chicken tacos today with grilled onions and avocado.

01:11:59.000 Delicious.

01:12:00.000 But I cut out the dairy because I'm partially lactose intolerant.

01:12:04.000 And I was thinking like, I get by barely, you know, as it is.

01:12:09.000 Drinking lactate and stuff.

01:12:11.000 And when we were on the road trip, I didn't have access to that stuff.

01:12:15.000 And so, yeah, not fun.

01:12:19.000 So I'm partially like... Well, I'm glad I wasn't stuck in the van with you.

01:12:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:23.000 Oh, definitely.

01:12:23.000 So when I got back, I was like, you know what, man?

01:12:26.000 Once this cheese runs out, I'm just not gonna buy any more.

01:12:28.000 I'm not gonna buy more milk.

01:12:28.000 We get rice milk or almond milk or something.

01:12:31.000 And I feel like a million bucks.

01:12:34.000 Nice.

01:12:34.000 Yeah.

01:12:35.000 It was great.

01:12:35.000 And it's like it's it's immediately obvious within like two or three days all of a sudden I just feel a million times better.

01:12:40.000 Nice.

01:12:41.000 So I wonder.

01:12:41.000 Really happy for you.

01:12:42.000 I've also been skating every single day.

01:12:44.000 Yeah we've been skating a lot.

01:12:46.000 But I actually think that's a causation.

01:12:49.000 Yeah.

01:12:49.000 Because I used to skate one day and then be too wiped out the next day to skate.

01:12:52.000 And so I would do intervals.

01:12:54.000 Now I skated five days in a row straight every day and I feel like a million bucks.

01:12:57.000 Yeah.

01:12:57.000 It could be the exercise consistently.

01:12:59.000 True.

01:12:59.000 And I'm just getting more and more, you know, amped up.

01:13:02.000 But I feel like, you know, just cutting it out and trying to eat and drink better stuff is just healthier no matter what.

01:13:10.000 Yeah.

01:13:10.000 So it could be partially psychosomatic, but I don't think so.

01:13:12.000 Like, I usually set my alarm like, I gotta get up at 7.

01:13:15.000 I don't think so either.

01:13:15.000 I woke up at 5.30 a.m.

01:13:16.000 like, I slept for five hours and I'm like, I feel great.

01:13:20.000 Beanie's charged.

01:13:21.000 Yeah, beanie's charged.

01:13:22.000 Yeah.

01:13:23.000 M&S says, Tim, I know that left the faith a long time ago, but did you receive confirmation?

01:13:30.000 If so, you qualify to become Pope.

01:13:33.000 I was never confirmed.

01:13:35.000 I stopped going to Catholic school at the end of 5th grade and went to 6th grade in public school.

01:13:40.000 Kyle Buchanan says, Question to all, if aliens are real but only single cell, how would you feel and react when we found them on other planets?

01:13:47.000 I wouldn't be surprised at all because that's what I'm assuming.

01:13:51.000 Don't we already know that there are microbes that are in the space or something?

01:13:54.000 Hmm that can live in space, but I don't know if we've found living Microbes elsewhere, but I'm sure like Titan is he's got oceans of methane You know Ganymede is like a frozen moon with oceans underneath the surface It's like Ganymede.

01:14:12.000 Is it Ganymede?

01:14:12.000 Maybe Titan or whatever?

01:14:14.000 No, Titan's methane.

01:14:16.000 It's like oceans of methane.

01:14:17.000 Oh, that's right.

01:14:17.000 That's right cuz we play destiny.

01:14:18.000 Oh That's true.

01:14:23.000 Maybe it's Io?

01:14:24.000 No, I thought it was Ganymede.

01:14:26.000 I don't know.

01:14:27.000 You want to look it up?

01:14:27.000 I can look it up.

01:14:28.000 But I mean, even still, we haven't seen in these deep oceans, and we're still finding species today on Earth that are living in places that we were like, nah, they can't live there.

01:14:38.000 They're extremophiles.

01:14:39.000 And they're living there.

01:14:40.000 That iron snail.

01:14:41.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:14:41.000 That's so cool.

01:14:42.000 It's like we're still like, oh, how is this even alive here?

01:14:45.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:14:47.000 What?

01:14:47.000 We think we're so smart.

01:14:48.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:14:49.000 We know exactly what life is.

01:14:50.000 I remember when I was little, they told me in school that here's the things you need for life.

01:14:55.000 And I remember reading it.

01:14:56.000 I'm like, this is just describing us.

01:14:59.000 Oh, Europa.

01:15:00.000 Thank you.

01:15:00.000 Europa.

01:15:01.000 It's Europa.

01:15:02.000 Yes.

01:15:02.000 I should have known that because I watched Cowboy Bebop.

01:15:04.000 Yeah.

01:15:05.000 Yeah.

01:15:06.000 Anyway, let's read some more.

01:15:08.000 Chat's the best.

01:15:09.000 Judas Romo says, how do you feel about Twitch Dear Lady?

01:15:11.000 Oh, we went into that.

01:15:13.000 Oh, we did.

01:15:13.000 I'm gonna get in trouble.

01:15:14.000 Joe Ward says, last time I saw Joe Rogan ratioed this bad, Tim Pool had to come bail him out.

01:15:20.000 Did he get ratioed?

01:15:21.000 Over the leaving YouTube thing?

01:15:24.000 Oh, on Twitter maybe.

01:15:25.000 Not all of them.

01:15:26.000 Miller says, when Kelly collapses, states should pass laws that prevent people moving

01:15:30.000 from Kelly.

01:15:31.000 They already destroyed their state, they should not destroy another.

01:15:34.000 Not all of them.

01:15:35.000 Build a wall around California.

01:15:36.000 You know, one of my favorite memes is, uh...

01:15:39.000 Or just get the fault to just push it out to see it.

01:15:41.000 Yeah, I've been waiting for that.

01:15:42.000 Have you seen the fake Trump tweet where it's a red line around the southern border, but

01:15:46.000 then it goes up and around New Mexico?

01:15:47.000 No.

01:15:48.000 And Trump says, New Mexico!

01:15:50.000 He's like, we're building a wall around New Mexico because I'm still trying to get rid of the old ones.

01:15:54.000 Or he's like, New Mexico, I'm still trying to get rid of the old ones or something like that.

01:15:57.000 It's hilarious.

01:15:58.000 And there's like a fence going around New Mexico.

01:16:00.000 Nice.

01:16:01.000 Didactic says, did you see the audio leak of Biden's conversation with the Ukraine official about getting the prosecutor fired?

01:16:06.000 Huge news.

01:16:08.000 We'll see.

01:16:08.000 So the only thing I noticed in it was that he said, you know, despite there, it was something to the effect of despite there being no evidence of corruption, you know, he's tended to his resignation.

01:16:16.000 And then Biden said, and then he said, and then Poroshenko says, presumably it's Poroshenko.

01:16:21.000 I, you know, I hope that shows I've kept my word and upheld my end of the bargain.

01:16:24.000 And then Biden says, I agree.

01:16:26.000 And it just doesn't seem like it, it doesn't seem real.

01:16:29.000 Breya, thanks for becoming a member.

01:16:30.000 Thank you.

01:16:31.000 Wolfspain says, hey Tim, hey Tim, hey Tim, hey Tim, did you see that the World Politics Reddit evolved into a Warhammer and Star Wars post-Crusade?

01:16:40.000 Cool!

01:16:41.000 Yeah, it was anime boobs before, then it became real boobs, now it's Warhammer.

01:16:46.000 Awesome.

01:16:47.000 Cool, perfect, the final evolution.

01:16:49.000 And Star Wars.

01:16:50.000 Star Wars, yeah.

01:16:51.000 JustAnotherGuy says, check Nabu leaks for Biden corruption tapes.

01:16:55.000 DarthTyphoon, Typhon, thanks for the super chat.

01:16:58.000 Chet Chisholm says, I work in emergency medicine in a publicly funded healthcare system.

01:17:02.000 I have a very different view compared to you with regards to it.

01:17:06.000 If you want, I can outline this view with stuff I send Adam.

01:17:08.000 Yeah, do it to it.

01:17:09.000 Yeah, he sent me a bunch of stuff.

01:17:11.000 No, he sent me a bunch of stuff.

01:17:12.000 No, I'm just saying everybody else.

01:17:13.000 Oh, to everybody else.

01:17:14.000 Yeah, follow Adam because you can send him stuff.

01:17:15.000 Hey, there's my link or whatever, my stuff.

01:17:18.000 Your handle?

01:17:18.000 You can find me in places.

01:17:21.000 Just type me up and you can find me.

01:17:23.000 And then whatever you send to Adam, you know, sometimes it makes it to the show.

01:17:26.000 Send me things.

01:17:27.000 Yes.

01:17:28.000 And smash that like button and follow me as well.

01:17:30.000 And share.

01:17:31.000 We're going to start posting some skate videos soon.

01:17:33.000 Oh, we had a pretty epic sesh.

01:17:35.000 Adam's just, his progress on the mini ramp is just too beast.

01:17:39.000 I can't keep up.

01:17:40.000 It's like, I'm doing pretty good.

01:17:41.000 I've always been a big fan of ramps though.

01:17:43.000 Yeah.

01:17:44.000 I've mostly been a street skater, ledge flat and like stairs and stuff.

01:17:48.000 But I used to be pretty good at ramp.

01:17:50.000 I just got to get back used to it.

01:17:51.000 But every day it's like... Adam did a blunt finger flip.

01:17:54.000 I'm like... Yeah, I did.

01:17:55.000 It's like, dude, I'm trying my hardest over here, but... I still can't believe I landed that.

01:18:00.000 I can.

01:18:00.000 You did it like twice today already.

01:18:01.000 You were like, I'm just gonna throw it in my run.

01:18:02.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:18:03.000 But still, it's like, I had no idea.

01:18:06.000 Man, it was... I gotta turn the heat up.

01:18:08.000 That's why I'm skating every day.

01:18:09.000 Maybe one day you'll see me and I'll have like a broken arm or something.

01:18:12.000 It's definitely the hardest thing I've ever done.

01:18:13.000 I'm so happy I have that ramp, dude.

01:18:15.000 It's like a dream come true.

01:18:16.000 Me too, man.

01:18:17.000 Yeah, my owner has this awesome ramp in the backyard.

01:18:20.000 Oh my gosh, I don't like that.

01:18:21.000 No, the undertones are too much.

01:18:23.000 Alright, alright.

01:18:24.000 Children.

01:18:25.000 I don't know.

01:18:26.000 Where were we at? Ceylon says, context, Glazer vid, did you see that the NYT coined the term

01:18:34.000 she-cession and blamed 55% women's unemployment in April on Google's cut of diversity? Oh.

01:18:40.000 Yes.

01:18:42.000 So I did a video about this activist who works at NBC.

01:18:45.000 Okay.

01:18:45.000 Who like basically complained that Google was shuttering diversity.

01:18:50.000 And then a bunch of Democrats wrote a letter.

01:18:52.000 And now this activist is cheering, along with their activist-y friends.

01:18:57.000 And she wrote this smear piece of me, arguing that I wasn't calling her an activist.

01:19:02.000 And I'm like, dude, you're cheering for ideological policy positions being implemented.

01:19:05.000 That's activism!

01:19:07.000 When Google shuttered the diversity thing, I didn't cheer or I didn't say good or bad.

01:19:11.000 I was just like, Google did.

01:19:12.000 I wonder why.

01:19:13.000 It's interesting.

01:19:14.000 I talked about James Damore closing a suit.

01:19:15.000 I wonder if they're related.

01:19:17.000 That's about it.

01:19:19.000 So it's like, that's the difference.

01:19:20.000 Activists versus journalists, I suppose.

01:19:22.000 Or political commentary, fine.

01:19:23.000 It's cultural commentary.

01:19:26.000 I was actually thinking that.

01:19:28.000 I mean, he still does his show, doesn't he?

01:19:29.000 I used to listen to him.

01:19:30.000 Howard. Yeah, that flopped. I was actually thinking that. I mean, he still does his show, doesn't he?

01:19:35.000 Howard Stern? Yeah. Yeah, but he's still, like, what, what's, well, you know what's, you know what's crazy?

01:19:39.000 I used to listen to him. But he's ragging, he said something like Trump supporters, like, what did he say?

01:19:42.000 I hate you or something like that? He said horrible things recently about Trump supporters.

01:19:46.000 It's so weird.

01:19:48.000 What happened to these edgy people who are now all of a sudden, like, inversion?

01:19:53.000 I mean, it's Howard Stern.

01:19:54.000 Hasn't he said horrible things about everybody?

01:19:57.000 But it's an inversion of his character.

01:20:00.000 Isn't he the guy who would fire hot dogs at women's tits?

01:20:03.000 I think so.

01:20:04.000 Something like that.

01:20:05.000 Probably.

01:20:05.000 Now we're in a band.

01:20:07.000 What?

01:20:07.000 Because of that?

01:20:08.000 Really?

01:20:08.000 Yeah.

01:20:09.000 You don't think so?

01:20:09.000 I'm talking about Howard Stern.

01:20:10.000 That's totally normal stuff that people have been talking about for a long time.

01:20:12.000 I get it.

01:20:13.000 YouTube is very pretentious.

01:20:16.000 But he used to do a ton of weird stuff like that, right?

01:20:19.000 Yeah.

01:20:19.000 His studio was so weird.

01:20:20.000 Many, many, many weird things.

01:20:21.000 Yeah.

01:20:22.000 And now all of a sudden he's got a problem with Trump supporters.

01:20:25.000 He's on a high horse.

01:20:27.000 Maybe that's what it is.

01:20:29.000 I see how it is.

01:20:30.000 These people like to, you know, the media, people like Jimmy Kimmel and Fallon or whatever.

01:20:34.000 It's Kimmel who does this.

01:20:35.000 They make these videos where they find the stupidest people and make a video about it.

01:20:38.000 And then all these people are too dumb to realize.

01:20:41.000 The truth over facts thing is the perfect example.

01:20:43.000 Yeah.

01:20:43.000 Like Trump makes fun of Biden and the media doesn't know or understand or even research.

01:20:47.000 So it's like a bunch of Tweedledees and Tweedledum all laughing and going like, Like, Trump is so dumb he said truth over facts.

01:20:55.000 And meanwhile, the Trump supporters are like, that's, he's making fun of Joe Biden.

01:20:58.000 But they're not smart enough to get the joke.

01:21:00.000 Yep.

01:21:01.000 So, that's what you get.

01:21:02.000 The left can't meme.

01:21:05.000 It's funny, there's a subreddit called the right can't meme, where it really looks like

01:21:08.000 they make, yeah.

01:21:10.000 It's because Reddit's become propaganda.

01:21:13.000 And it's like, you look at the subreddit, and I'm pretty sure they make fake memes, because I've never seen them.

01:21:19.000 MIT Technology Review, man, don't take my word for it.

01:21:21.000 They said 4chan and the Donald are the most prolific progenitors of memes that go viral on Twitter and all these other websites.

01:21:28.000 It's always been 4chan.

01:21:30.000 That was always the joke, that 4chan would make something, Reddit would take it, and then it would go viral.

01:21:35.000 Often when viral videos would emerge, it'd be 4chan.

01:21:38.000 But now they're desperate to claim they're cool.

01:21:41.000 Here's the funny thing about propaganda sites and subreddits that say the right can't meme.

01:21:45.000 It's like, who are you trying to convince?

01:21:47.000 Yourselves?

01:21:48.000 Desperate looks on anyone is not a good look.

01:21:51.000 I'll tell you what, man.

01:21:53.000 The right is several orders of magnitude better at memeing than the left.

01:21:58.000 So I've noticed, yeah.

01:21:59.000 And it's not even about whether or not they can or can't.

01:22:02.000 It's about if someone on the right posts a meme, I laugh.

01:22:05.000 If someone on the left does, I'm confused.

01:22:07.000 I'm like, I don't get what you're trying to say.

01:22:09.000 That's not funny.

01:22:09.000 Or you get it and it's just bad.

01:22:11.000 Joe Biden called Trump President Tweety.

01:22:14.000 Yeah.

01:22:14.000 Was that what he said?

01:22:15.000 Tweety?

01:22:16.000 Yes.

01:22:16.000 I'm like, bro, that's that's not even relevant.

01:22:20.000 Like, I guess if you're, you know, in your 70s, you grew up watching Looney Tunes.

01:22:22.000 He does tweet.

01:22:23.000 You know, so you're like Tweety Bird.

01:22:25.000 I'm going to make fun of Trump.

01:22:26.000 He tweets a lot.

01:22:27.000 Biden tweets too.

01:22:28.000 What?

01:22:29.000 I mean, Biden.

01:22:30.000 Not Biden.

01:22:31.000 In quotes.

01:22:32.000 Sure.

01:22:32.000 But right now, the right is calling him Sleepy Creepy Uncle Joe.

01:22:36.000 Right.

01:22:36.000 And it's funny.

01:22:38.000 Like, we understand what's- And accurate.

01:22:40.000 You know what people- I think what the left doesn't get about memes is that memes are a zip file for an occurrence or an idea.

01:22:48.000 Yeah, okay.

01:22:49.000 That makes sense.

01:22:49.000 So, every time Trump called Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas, what he was doing was giving a zip file of an idea to all his supporters in that moment, where it invoked all of the negative history of Elizabeth Warren pretending to be Native American.

01:23:02.000 Right.

01:23:02.000 So, that one word brought all those memories back.

01:23:07.000 And so naturally for the left, not being able to understand or comprehend, they were like, he's just trying to insult her because he's racist.

01:23:13.000 It's like, no, he's bringing back all of the news stories to remind people of why she's a bad person.

01:23:20.000 Or when, you know, you say sleepy, creepy Uncle Joe, people know that Biden falls asleep on TV, he can't speak straight, he touches people inappropriately, and Uncle Joe is a reference to him being a pedo.

01:23:32.000 Yep.

01:23:33.000 Now we're getting banned.

01:23:34.000 There we go.

01:23:35.000 Alright, let's keep going.

01:23:36.000 We're just hitting up everything.

01:23:38.000 We're just gonna go for it.

01:23:40.000 Jen McMahon says, I do like the visual aspect of YouTube, but I'm fine with podcasts becoming the new AM radio.

01:23:46.000 Okay.

01:23:46.000 ATK says, how is the view from the alt-right adjacency ever figure that out yet?

01:23:51.000 I don't even know what alt-right means anymore because it's like not even necessarily right wing.

01:23:55.000 Alternative to the right.

01:23:56.000 Yeah.

01:23:56.000 So that, that woman called me far right adjacent.

01:23:58.000 Yeah.

01:23:58.000 And I'm like, that just means right wing.

01:24:01.000 Like, what is that supposed to mean?

01:24:02.000 Far left adjacent?

01:24:03.000 Your center adjacent.

01:24:05.000 Wait, what?

01:24:06.000 It's, it's, it's their way of saying far right in the sentence.

01:24:08.000 Yeah.

01:24:09.000 To put it in there, but not, not actually call you right.

01:24:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:24:12.000 Far right.

01:24:13.000 Far rights, whatever.

01:24:14.000 Jeremiah says, 45 minutes straight, then 17 at the end last night.

01:24:18.000 What is that reference to?

01:24:19.000 I'm not sure.

01:24:20.000 No idea.

01:24:21.000 Talbot says, skill, it's complicated.

01:24:23.000 Level up and became, it's more complicated than that.

01:24:26.000 It's true.

01:24:27.000 Definitely.

01:24:27.000 You dropped it.

01:24:28.000 Yep.

01:24:28.000 Joey Virtue says, love the show.

01:24:30.000 I'm curious about how you three stand on guns for self-protection, home defense.

01:24:34.000 Also, what state in the U.S.

01:24:36.000 would you three move to?

01:24:39.000 You go first.

01:24:40.000 I'm for guns.

01:24:41.000 I understand the need to protect yourself in areas that aren't congested.

01:24:48.000 Even in those kind of areas, there are hotheads that are crazy.

01:24:53.000 Anyone can go crazy at any point, honestly.

01:24:58.000 I don't know.

01:24:59.000 Yeah, foreguns, honestly, it's more for like hunting and protecting yourself if you need be.

01:25:04.000 But, you know, it makes sense if we're going to live off the land, you know, hunting is part of it.

01:25:09.000 I mean, obviously, I'm vegan, so it's kind of weird to hear a vegan talk about hunting.

01:25:12.000 But, you know, not everybody is vegan.

01:25:15.000 So I understand the need to get your own food.

01:25:17.000 And I think that's a big part of it.

01:25:20.000 It's like, I mean, we were living in Miami and we weren't necessarily out in the country country.

01:25:20.000 And yeah, home defense.

01:25:26.000 We were like an hour outside Miami and someone broke into our backyard and was like looking around with a flashlight.

01:25:32.000 And I mean, we didn't know who this person was.

01:25:34.000 What if they had a gun?

01:25:36.000 What if they were coming at us to like steal our stuff?

01:25:38.000 It's like...

01:25:39.000 We were not close.

01:25:41.000 Like, if we called the police, like, they probably wouldn't have been there.

01:25:43.000 40 minutes?

01:25:44.000 Yeah, I mean, who knows how long it would take for them to get there, so.

01:25:46.000 We also had those reports of the home invasion.

01:25:48.000 Exactly.

01:25:49.000 Somebody got murdered in this house.

01:25:51.000 Oh, even worse, right.

01:25:52.000 So, like, what we were doing, we took your airsoft rifle that we had.

01:25:57.000 We had a handheld pistol version of it, too.

01:26:01.000 Yeah.

01:26:01.000 And we were standing on the back porch like, who's out there?

01:26:03.000 Well, I cracked it and dry-fired.

01:26:05.000 Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.

01:26:06.000 That was, that was an aggressive, that was a good 22.

01:26:10.000 It was, yeah.

01:26:11.000 And so, it's a breakthrough.

01:26:12.000 And then, you know what happened?

01:26:13.000 The person left.

01:26:14.000 They ran off.

01:26:15.000 He ran off.

01:26:16.000 Weird.

01:26:17.000 He didn't come into our house.

01:26:18.000 I went out and I screamed and I went bang.

01:26:20.000 Right.

01:26:21.000 And they were gone.

01:26:22.000 Tim screaming.

01:26:23.000 You know, so, but I've been criticized for that too and I'm like, look man, I did what

01:26:25.000 I did at the time, the situation, I didn't know what the right thing to do was.

01:26:28.000 Some people have said, like, you gotta be careful, like, you know, that could have alerted

01:26:32.000 them to then, like, maybe sneak up and attack you or something and I'm like.

01:26:35.000 They were coming at, in our property.

01:26:37.000 They were snooping on my prop, on our property.

01:26:39.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:26:41.000 It was a 5 acre property.

01:26:43.000 We had neighbors and all that.

01:26:46.000 When you were in the back, there was a barn building.

01:26:50.000 It's a big open field.

01:26:51.000 You can't even get back there normally.

01:26:53.000 You have to find your way in.

01:26:55.000 Someone jumped over like a six foot fence with also plants growing around it.

01:26:59.000 We'd never opened.

01:27:00.000 And they were snooping around, looking in the barn and stuff.

01:27:03.000 And we saw the light flickering.

01:27:04.000 It was like midnight.

01:27:05.000 You're making a pizza.

01:27:06.000 And so I was like, yo, yo, yo, shh.

01:27:08.000 And I was like, dude, dude, dude, what the?

01:27:09.000 And we all saw it and we were like, whoa, dude.

01:27:12.000 And so I was like, I grabbed, it was like a Remington, I think.

01:27:14.000 And I went, broke the bear.

01:27:15.000 I went outside and went, hey, bang!

01:27:17.000 And then rustling, running over the fence and going.

01:27:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:27:21.000 And so I was talking to some friends about it.

01:27:23.000 So you feel the same way I do then?

01:27:24.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:27:24.000 Yeah.

01:27:25.000 And I was explaining to my friend who said, you know, told me that there's no reason, it's a liberal Hollywood type, there's no reason for anyone to ever have a gun.

01:27:33.000 And I was like, let me tell you a story.

01:27:34.000 Yeah.

01:27:35.000 I told the story.

01:27:35.000 And I said, what should I have done?

01:27:37.000 Like, if I didn't have a weapon?

01:27:39.000 And I was like, it wasn't even, it wasn't even a real like, you know.

01:27:41.000 And they did have a weapon.

01:27:42.000 Not that we know that they did or not, but...

01:27:45.000 There's a high probability that they did have a weapon, and what if they were coming to rob us, you know?

01:27:50.000 Yep.

01:27:50.000 And maybe they heard the shot and were like, it's not worth it because they're armed.

01:27:53.000 I don't want to get shot.

01:27:54.000 Yep.

01:27:55.000 They might have still had a weapon.

01:27:56.000 Exactly.

01:27:56.000 So, you know, I ask this.

01:27:58.000 There's no good answer.

01:27:59.000 It's like, oh, well, call the police.

01:28:01.000 They'll be there in 40 minutes.

01:28:02.000 It's like, well, if all guns were gone, then you wouldn't have to worry about it anymore.

01:28:07.000 Can't stop them.

01:28:08.000 Exactly.

01:28:08.000 You can't stop them.

01:28:09.000 People can 3D print a gun now that's viable.

01:28:13.000 It's not a one-shot, cracked doom, it's done.

01:28:15.000 It's like, replace the mag, keep shooting, looks like a vector submachine gun.

01:28:20.000 It's probably not as fast, but... Shotguns make sense, you know, for like home defense stuff, but ultimately it's like...

01:28:27.000 Shotguns do make sense because you can hunt certain kinds of deer, or not deer, doves and stuff.

01:28:33.000 I just mean for home defense.

01:28:34.000 But you can also use it as home defense.

01:28:36.000 Like Dave Chappelle said, birdshot, birdshot, buckshot, birdshot.

01:28:39.000 Birdshot, buckshot.

01:28:40.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:28:42.000 Yeah, so this idea that we could just call the police, I was like, the nearest store for us to buy food.

01:28:49.000 Yeah, it was at least 15 minutes.

01:28:51.000 Oh no, the gas station, right.

01:28:52.000 No, it was seven miles away.

01:28:53.000 No, there was a liquor store that was a mile.

01:28:56.000 Oh, okay.

01:28:57.000 That was the only thing, though.

01:28:58.000 When I wanted to get milk or something, it'd be like, the gas station is seven miles away.

01:29:03.000 So what do you think's gonna happen if you call the police?

01:29:05.000 They're gonna be like, well, reach out to somebody.

01:29:06.000 They can be there in 20 or 30 minutes.

01:29:08.000 There's someone in my backyard.

01:29:10.000 I can't see them.

01:29:12.000 They're looking around in my barn with a flashlight.

01:29:14.000 Okay.

01:29:14.000 What do you want to say?

01:29:15.000 Are they armed?

01:29:16.000 I don't know.

01:29:16.000 I can't see them.

01:29:18.000 You know what the cops would probably say?

01:29:19.000 Do you have any weapons in the home?

01:29:21.000 That's true.

01:29:22.000 I do.

01:29:22.000 Get it.

01:29:23.000 That's true.

01:29:24.000 That wouldn't surprise me.

01:29:25.000 When somebody came here at four in the morning, when we're in Jersey, the cops came and they were like, we're going to take care of everything.

01:29:33.000 And one of the guys, one of the cops was like, you know, sitting there listening.

01:29:36.000 And then I was like, I called you guys as soon as I could.

01:29:38.000 And the guy goes, if it were me, I would answer the door with my shotgun.

01:29:41.000 And I was like, so I should get a shotgun, and he's like, if it were me, I'd answer my door with a shotgun.

01:29:46.000 He didn't answer the question, but he made a suggestion.

01:29:48.000 He answered the question, but he answered the question.

01:29:50.000 And so I did, you know, but they gave me the runaround at the local department about, you know, getting a weapon.

01:29:55.000 And to be honest, it's kind of like my fault for not going and following up.

01:30:00.000 Okay.

01:30:00.000 That worked too much.

01:30:01.000 But I went there and they did not make it easy.

01:30:04.000 And they told me to... To get a gun.

01:30:06.000 To write an essay.

01:30:07.000 All right, so what in the States would I live?

01:30:10.000 West Virginia.

01:30:12.000 We were talking about West Virginia.

01:30:13.000 Every time I see the River Shenandoah, I just get all happy for some reason.

01:30:19.000 I start singing Country Roads in my head.

01:30:21.000 I was a Fallout fan for a long time, so I still am.

01:30:25.000 West Virginia has got good internet in certain areas, and it seems like a good place to start something up.

01:30:33.000 Yeah, I mean, but there's no airports.

01:30:35.000 There's no big... There are, just not big ones.

01:30:38.000 Yeah, true.

01:30:39.000 It's not, there's no, yeah, there's no big... It's not like we could eventually have guests normally.

01:30:43.000 Well, we could, but it would be like, you fly to DC, then you fly on the regional, you know what I mean?

01:30:49.000 A little tiny... Hey man, Joe's talking about going to Texas.

01:30:52.000 People will go if they want, you know... Texas has got plenty of big cities and big airports.

01:30:58.000 Yeah, it's true, it's true.

01:30:59.000 We drove through, it's funny, there's like the northern strip of West Virginia that's like 40 miles.

01:31:03.000 It's like you just like go right through it.

01:31:05.000 I thought we were going through the heart of West Virginia when we drove to L.A.

01:31:09.000 and it's like we drive through and I'm like, oh, we're in West Virginia, wow, we'll check it out.

01:31:12.000 It's like, we're not in West Virginia anymore.

01:31:15.000 Right when you thought that.

01:31:16.000 Now leaving West Virginia.

01:31:19.000 You know, we're both from Chicago, and the crazy thing about Chicago is that for the longest time, it was outright illegal to own guns.

01:31:27.000 In the city?

01:31:28.000 Yeah, it was really, really difficult to do anything with guns.

01:31:31.000 It was legal technically.

01:31:34.000 And they got really mad when the Supreme Court struck it down, saying you can't ban these weapons and stuff.

01:31:39.000 But there was a story of a woman from Tennessee who had a revolver.

01:31:45.000 She went to the Sears Tower.

01:31:46.000 Yeah.

01:31:46.000 Or the Willis Tower.

01:31:48.000 Whatever.

01:31:48.000 It's the Sears Tower.

01:31:49.000 She was some old lady in her 60s.

01:31:50.000 OG Chicago and Sears Tower.

01:31:52.000 She's an old lady.

01:31:53.000 She has a legal permit for the weapon in Tennessee.

01:31:56.000 She was on vacation.

01:31:57.000 She just drove up.

01:31:58.000 She went to the tower.

01:31:59.000 They have a metal detector.

01:32:00.000 They said, do you have any weapons?

01:32:01.000 She goes, I do.

01:32:02.000 I have my revolver.

01:32:03.000 They arrest her on the spot.

01:32:04.000 Last I heard, she got four years.

01:32:06.000 What?

01:32:06.000 Really?

01:32:07.000 Really? Yeah, that's what I heard. I knew a dude who was this is the story. I was told that's sad

01:32:14.000 I feel bad for her. So this is an anecdote that somebody told me

01:32:17.000 It's like I pulled up the records, but there was a dude who?

01:32:20.000 Lived in California. Okay, and had legal weapons and he was driving across the country, right?

01:32:26.000 And he got pulled over in Illinois.

01:32:27.000 And the cop said, do you have weapons?

01:32:28.000 I do.

01:32:29.000 He was driving through Illinois on his way to the East Coast.

01:32:31.000 And the cop said, you know, open it up.

01:32:33.000 Saw that the guy had some rifles and some handguns.

01:32:35.000 And he's like, you're under arrest.

01:32:37.000 Felony possession.

01:32:38.000 And you got four years.

01:32:39.000 I have family members that live in Illinois that have guns and they're legal.

01:32:39.000 What?

01:32:45.000 They even have a concealed carry permit.

01:32:47.000 And there's even supposed to be like laws about, you know, safe transport.

01:32:51.000 Yeah.

01:32:52.000 Dude got railroaded.

01:32:53.000 Didn't care.

01:32:53.000 It's ridiculous.

01:32:55.000 I think they accused him of like trying to sell weapons or something.

01:32:57.000 They were like, nope, we don't believe you.

01:32:59.000 You have too many.

01:33:00.000 And he was like, I'm not even staying in Illinois.

01:33:02.000 And they're like, don't care.

01:33:03.000 Nope.

01:33:04.000 He ended up getting probation though.

01:33:05.000 So they were like suspended sentence, probation.

01:33:07.000 So it's crazy.

01:33:08.000 Cause now it's like the dude had to live in Illinois.

01:33:11.000 Yeah.

01:33:12.000 It's like he gets out and they're like, you live here now for the next four years.

01:33:14.000 And he was like, what?

01:33:15.000 What am I supposed to do?

01:33:17.000 Who would choose to live in Illinois?

01:33:19.000 Now I can make some points about why I think what happened happened.

01:33:22.000 What do you know about Illinois?

01:33:24.000 Only what Tim's told me and driving through there, I can't speed at all because they'll pull you over and then you're in deep trouble.

01:33:31.000 I've had cops plant weed in my car.

01:33:34.000 I still have lots of good memories of Illinois and I like Illinois still, so watch your mouth.

01:33:38.000 I'll just leave it at this.

01:33:40.000 This dude, and again, this could be apocryphal, it could have been lying to me, but this is what I heard from this guy.

01:33:47.000 He was a skater.

01:33:48.000 And he was not white.

01:33:50.000 And he got pulled over in the South, Southern Illinois.

01:33:53.000 So I'm not saying that's necessarily why, but it's what the story ended up being, right?

01:33:58.000 So I'll tell you what, man.

01:33:59.000 I've had cops pull me over at gunpoint in Chicago when I was covering NATO protests with a bunch of my friends.

01:34:07.000 Searched the vehicle.

01:34:08.000 They raided our apartment.

01:34:11.000 They tried to use a criminal informant or a confidential informant to plant drugs in our car.

01:34:17.000 I know this.

01:34:17.000 This is confirmed.

01:34:18.000 Well, there's good cops and bad cops.

01:34:20.000 And NBC, when we got raided, when they surrounded us at gunpoint, we filmed and gave it to local NBC who aired it.

01:34:26.000 Oh wow.

01:34:26.000 That video's up. You can look up the video. It's from NBC News.

01:34:28.000 Dang.

01:34:29.000 And yeah, it's funny. We came back to the apartment, lights were on.

01:34:32.000 Doesn't sound funny.

01:34:33.000 Cops had been there.

01:34:34.000 It's messed up.

01:34:35.000 Funny, not funny, haha, funny is unlike you. Whoa, that's weird.

01:34:37.000 You know what I mean?

01:34:38.000 Okay.

01:34:38.000 Like, funny strange.

01:34:40.000 Yeah.

01:34:41.000 They searched our vehicle.

01:34:42.000 I think I know what they were trying to do.

01:34:46.000 So, long story short, somebody shows up to the apartment we're staying at, because they were staying there too.

01:34:51.000 It was someone we knew.

01:34:52.000 knew and asks if they can come with us because we're leaving.

01:34:57.000 We're like, we're GTFOing.

01:34:58.000 We just got surrounded by cops.

01:34:59.000 It was nuts.

01:34:59.000 We don't want to mess around.

01:35:01.000 They had just, you know, black-sided 10 guys.

01:35:03.000 I think it was 10 guys.

01:35:05.000 I don't know how many people it was.

01:35:05.000 A bunch of people filmed the cops and then all of a sudden disappeared.

01:35:08.000 And then they got, ended up getting charged with terror, terrorism,

01:35:11.000 like a small handful of them.

01:35:12.000 Okay.

01:35:13.000 So we were like, we're not going to stick around to find out.

01:35:15.000 We don't know what happened.

01:35:17.000 So this dude tries coming, and then I set a bunch of rules.

01:35:20.000 I said, because of what just happened, everything's going to be meticulous.

01:35:25.000 No one is bringing anything perishable.

01:35:26.000 You got vitamins?

01:35:27.000 Flush them.

01:35:28.000 Garbage.

01:35:28.000 Don't care.

01:35:29.000 The only thing coming in this are hard items like clothing, your computers, your equipment.

01:35:33.000 Yeah.

01:35:34.000 And no one is going in the apartment but me, and I was with Luke Rutkowski.

01:35:37.000 I was like, me and Luke, because we're both, you know, public figures.

01:35:40.000 Yeah.

01:35:41.000 If anything happens, we can, we have a better chance of mustering a defense.

01:35:44.000 So this dude tries going in the house, arguing that he needs to grab something.

01:35:47.000 Mm-hmm.

01:35:48.000 Later it turns, I said, no, absolutely not.

01:35:50.000 And he was like, I really, he's really pressuring me.

01:35:53.000 And then I ultimately said, if you go in that house, you will not get in our vehicle.

01:35:58.000 And he said, fine.

01:35:59.000 The next day it turns out who we believed to be was a police informant kept begging him to bring drugs into our car and he was going to do it.

01:36:06.000 But they were saying things like, please just grab this for me.

01:36:08.000 I just need this.

01:36:09.000 Just, just grab it so I can pick it up for you from you tomorrow.

01:36:12.000 In Illinois, there's mandatory drug sentencing if we had that in our vehicle.

01:36:16.000 So I wonder if that had something to do with us getting pulled over.

01:36:18.000 I ultimately don't know, but I saw the text messages where the person was like, do this.

01:36:26.000 Dang.

01:36:27.000 And he was saying stuff like, I can't.

01:36:29.000 They're not letting me.

01:36:30.000 And it's like, please, you have to do this for me.

01:36:31.000 You have to do this now.

01:36:32.000 He wouldn't do it.

01:36:33.000 That's Chicago, man.

01:36:34.000 I don't want to mess around.

01:36:36.000 I know.

01:36:37.000 I know the secret mobster handshake in Chicago, old school Chicago.

01:36:41.000 Do they still use it?

01:36:43.000 I have no idea, but I know it used to be a thing.

01:36:45.000 Like back in the day, you'd like walk up and, you know, the guy standing the bouncer and you just like walk him, give him the handshake, give him a specific handshake and he'll let you in.

01:36:53.000 No way.

01:36:55.000 Keeping that that close.

01:36:56.000 That's right.

01:36:57.000 Keeping that close.

01:36:58.000 I'll show you after the show if you want.

01:37:00.000 All right.

01:37:01.000 Yeah.

01:37:02.000 All right.

01:37:02.000 We gotta get through all these super chats.

01:37:04.000 We got too much.

01:37:05.000 So I hate to do this to you guys, but I think we're gonna have to start speeding things up because we talk too much.

01:37:10.000 And that's kind of the point of the show.

01:37:11.000 But we do have two more segments I want to hope to get to.

01:37:13.000 I hope to get to.

01:37:14.000 Maybe we'll just do aliens next.

01:37:17.000 I'm down for just super chats.

01:37:18.000 I love talking to everybody.

01:37:19.000 They're great.

01:37:19.000 We promised talking about aliens on Friday and we didn't get to it.

01:37:22.000 I mean, we can just keep pushing it back, man.

01:37:24.000 I don't mind.

01:37:25.000 Let's read.

01:37:25.000 Aww.

01:37:26.000 Let's read. Deacon Blues says, Tim, bald is beautiful. You're beautiful, Tim. Thank you.

01:37:31.000 The One says, saddest part of my day. I'll leave it there.

01:37:35.000 Stick around. Next segment will be tomorrow at 10am on this channel and I will see you then.

01:37:38.000 Aww. Thank you. That's sweet.

01:37:40.000 Matthew Emmons says, will we see more or less of Alex Jones on Joe Rogan? I'd imagine more, actually.

01:37:47.000 Because this deal is probably super safe for Joe.

01:37:49.000 It's one of the reasons he did it.

01:37:50.000 He's probably like, I can do whatever I want.

01:37:52.000 I mean, the temperature on YouTube right now is... I don't know.

01:37:55.000 How many times have we been like, oh, we're banned.

01:37:57.000 Yep, exactly.

01:37:58.000 We referenced Howard Stern's show.

01:38:00.000 Joe talks about way crazier stuff than we do.

01:38:04.000 Yeah, and he swears all the time.

01:38:05.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:38:07.000 I'm not going anywhere unless you can guarantee I can do whatever I want to do, and I can talk about whatever I want to talk about.

01:38:13.000 Yep.

01:38:14.000 I'm sure it's in his contract.

01:38:15.000 Something to that effect.

01:38:17.000 I'm sure they have, like, very specific outs.

01:38:19.000 Yeah.

01:38:19.000 But I'm also sure that he's got very specific protections.

01:38:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:22.000 Definitely.

01:38:22.000 That must have been a hefty contract, man.

01:38:24.000 I couldn't imagine.

01:38:26.000 I've been given contracts that are, like, this thick.

01:38:27.000 Yeah.

01:38:28.000 And I'm like, garbage.

01:38:29.000 I'm not dealing.

01:38:30.000 Sorry.

01:38:30.000 I'm out.

01:38:30.000 Give me something simple.

01:38:31.000 Yeah.

01:38:32.000 It's the biggest podcast in the world.

01:38:33.000 Yep.

01:38:34.000 I can imagine it was big.

01:38:35.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:38:35.000 It was number two on Tuesday, all right?

01:38:38.000 It's number one.

01:38:39.000 Yeah.

01:38:39.000 You don't have to explain.

01:38:42.000 Darth Typhon says, Nick, Komolatos, gym in North Carolina was raided by police yesterday,

01:38:48.000 and the gym goers removed by police following Roy Cooper's executive order.

01:38:52.000 He put up a video earlier with footage of the event.

01:38:54.000 Rome is burning.

01:38:55.000 Man, that is nuts.

01:38:57.000 So we actually live very, very close to Attalus Gym.

01:39:01.000 I don't know if you guys have seen this video.

01:39:03.000 People are getting arrested.

01:39:04.000 They're walking out of the gym after exercising, I guess, and the cops just cuff them, take them away.

01:39:08.000 Crazy.

01:39:08.000 Yup.

01:39:09.000 And we're super close.

01:39:10.000 Maybe we'll check it out.

01:39:13.000 Oh, you know what, man?

01:39:14.000 Yeah, they close at 11.

01:39:17.000 I think I'll hop over and see what's up.

01:39:18.000 Really?

01:39:19.000 Yeah.

01:39:20.000 Sure, why not?

01:39:21.000 I mean, you don't gotta go, I'll go.

01:39:22.000 I don't believe you.

01:39:23.000 Alright, let's do it.

01:39:24.000 You don't believe me what?

01:39:25.000 It's not going anywhere.

01:39:26.000 Oh, we'll see about that.

01:39:27.000 You wanna bet?

01:39:28.000 Oh, well, if I bet you, you're gonna go.

01:39:29.000 I'm gonna go no matter what.

01:39:30.000 Sure.

01:39:31.000 I wanted to go earlier, but we skated instead.

01:39:32.000 Yeah, sure.

01:39:32.000 Yeah.

01:39:34.000 Chisholm says, Snagged one of those shirts.

01:39:36.000 You guys just found the secret to printing money.

01:39:38.000 Look up Viva Frey, a lawyer on YouTube.

01:39:40.000 Breaks down the Elon Musk lawsuit really well.

01:39:42.000 More medical shiznit on COVID to come.

01:39:46.000 Jack says, YouTube and Facebook are slowly killing themselves and they don't even know it.

01:39:49.000 I think they do know it.

01:39:50.000 I think they don't care.

01:39:52.000 Steve M says, the reason Joe stopped doing live was because people were making clips as it was streaming.

01:39:57.000 Ah, interesting.

01:39:59.000 Yeah.

01:40:00.000 Interesting.

01:40:00.000 Did he say, he may have said that, didn't he say that?

01:40:02.000 And then posting it themselves.

01:40:04.000 On other channels.

01:40:04.000 Right.

01:40:05.000 I once saw, I was getting ads all the time for a fake Joe Rogan Instagram.

01:40:10.000 And it's like.

01:40:11.000 Random.

01:40:11.000 It was huge.

01:40:12.000 It had hundreds of thousands of followers and it was selling products under his name.

01:40:16.000 And, you know, unfortunately for those people, I happened to know Joe and I'm like, yo, Oh, you showed them?

01:40:22.000 Good money.

01:40:23.000 Oh, you showed yeah, they're taking your they're taking your that's that's messed up

01:40:26.000 Yeah, there were channels that had like hundreds of thousands of subs. They were probably making you know good

01:40:32.000 money millions of dollars off of his stuff

01:40:35.000 Yeah For the Horde or for the Alliance?

01:40:39.000 For the Alliance.

01:40:40.000 That's tough, actually.

01:40:43.000 There's a lot of races... I like... I actually have a Night Elf.

01:40:47.000 Not a Night Elf, a Void Elf, sorry.

01:40:49.000 This is Warcraft, right?

01:40:50.000 Warcraft, yeah, yeah.

01:40:51.000 It was really annoying unlocking Void Elf.

01:40:54.000 It's a premium race or something, like a bunch of quests or whatever.

01:40:57.000 I've never played World of Warcraft.

01:40:58.000 It's a fun game.

01:40:59.000 Void Elf's cool.

01:41:00.000 I love PvP with Void Elf because they have this ability where they can like fire a ripple in space time.

01:41:06.000 Okay.

01:41:07.000 And then you can, you have like a few seconds to activate it and teleport to that ripple.

01:41:10.000 Cool.

01:41:11.000 So in PvP, what you do is, I play Rogue.

01:41:14.000 So I'll be like fighting someone.

01:41:16.000 I'll fire it off in one direction, run the other direction and then blink behind them.

01:41:20.000 They'll chase you.

01:41:21.000 Yep.

01:41:21.000 And they won't, they won't be paying attention and then boom on the other side.

01:41:23.000 It's fun.

01:41:24.000 It's fun.

01:41:24.000 Nice.

01:41:25.000 But they're alliance.

01:41:27.000 Ethan Jeff says, I first heard of you when you were on Joe's podcast facing the Twitter people.

01:41:31.000 Why am I late to this party?

01:41:32.000 Keep up the good work.

01:41:33.000 Appreciate it.

01:41:35.000 FTW Pang says, hey Tim, loving the content.

01:41:37.000 Have any of you played Metal Gear Solid 2?

01:41:40.000 And if so, what are your thoughts on the ideas put forward in the latter half of the game compared to the modern internet age?

01:41:45.000 I only played the first one.

01:41:46.000 I didn't play it.

01:41:47.000 Nintendo?

01:41:48.000 And randomly I played the Metal Gear Solid VR missions.

01:41:52.000 I really enjoyed that game also, but never played any of the other.

01:41:55.000 There's a lot of Metal Gear Solids now, geez.

01:41:58.000 Did you play Metal Gear, Lydia?

01:42:00.000 I've never played Metal Gear Solid.

01:42:02.000 I don't play any kind of video game like that.

01:42:03.000 Huh.

01:42:04.000 That was my follow-up question.

01:42:05.000 Yeah?

01:42:06.000 Have you played any video games?

01:42:08.000 No.

01:42:09.000 TheGreyGamer says, Pingus signed the Great Puba of America.

01:42:13.000 Appreciate it.

01:42:15.000 Talbot says, thanks to Jordan Peterson haters whenever I hear, so what you're saying is, the troll in me has a Pavlovian response of making lobster jokes.

01:42:24.000 Adam says it too much.

01:42:25.000 Do I?

01:42:25.000 I see purple.

01:42:26.000 I don't know.

01:42:27.000 Do I say that?

01:42:28.000 So what you're saying is, Did you get it from that interview?

01:42:31.000 That's what I thought you were referencing.

01:42:32.000 I don't know.

01:42:33.000 Do I say it?

01:42:33.000 Have you seen that Peterson interview?

01:42:35.000 With Kathy Newman?

01:42:37.000 No, I don't think so.

01:42:38.000 I'm going to go full exaggeration.

01:42:41.000 Jordan Peterson is like, I think we have an issue where men and women are biologically different and perhaps want different things in life.

01:42:47.000 So what you're saying is men are better than women and you think women are inferior.

01:42:50.000 And he's like, no, I'm not saying that at all.

01:42:54.000 I hear you doing that to me a lot.

01:42:56.000 So what you're saying is?

01:42:57.000 Yeah.

01:42:58.000 As a joke, though.

01:42:59.000 Right, right.

01:42:59.000 Oh.

01:43:00.000 Not serious.

01:43:01.000 I'm doing the meme.

01:43:01.000 I mean it.

01:43:02.000 Right, right.

01:43:03.000 So it's like, I take what you're saying and twist it in the most awful possible way.

01:43:06.000 So Adam got it from Tim.

01:43:08.000 You got it from Jordan Peterson.

01:43:09.000 I don't think I say it, but now I'm gonna realize if I do say it, but okay.

01:43:14.000 All right, all right.

01:43:15.000 Sure.

01:43:15.000 Different Gnomes says, on the topic you did about journalists accusing guilt by association, when the company bans X user, why is it that not tortious interference when third party maliciously interferes a contract, by the way, two parties?

01:43:28.000 I don't know.

01:43:29.000 I've talked about this with some lawyers.

01:43:31.000 Tortious interference is when, like, you interfere with someone else's contract.

01:43:34.000 I'll have to get a lawyer in.

01:43:36.000 Maybe one day when the pandemic is over, we can have Will Chamberlain.

01:43:40.000 He is a lawyer and he is a very active social media user.

01:43:44.000 Pro-Trump.

01:43:45.000 Good opinions.

01:43:46.000 Shun says, I love that harumph I say in the beginning.

01:43:49.000 Also, with Joe leaving YouTube in the long run, I wonder if alternatives will brace up for a boon in viewership or YouTube will t-pose dominance assertion.

01:43:57.000 That'll be funny.

01:43:58.000 Well, if you like that harumph I say, you can get it as a t-shirt in the merch section.

01:44:03.000 Yes.

01:44:03.000 Yeah, we made it a t-shirt.

01:44:05.000 Here's something to consider.

01:44:06.000 With Joe moving to Spotify, if Spotify opens up, because you can put your podcast on right now, it's not difficult.

01:44:11.000 Okay.

01:44:11.000 You just have to apply, and then like half a day later Spotify is like, boom, approved.

01:44:16.000 Okay.

01:44:16.000 If Spotify allows video podcasts, And Joe's just over.

01:44:20.000 I assure you, there's going to be a wave of of VOD casters or whatever, like what we do.

01:44:25.000 Yeah.

01:44:25.000 Jumping over as well.

01:44:26.000 I mean, I'd say straight up, we'll put the whole the recorded video because we yeah, we put it up on Spotify.

01:44:31.000 Why not?

01:44:31.000 Yeah.

01:44:32.000 So maybe that's what Spotify is hoping for.

01:44:34.000 Yeah.

01:44:34.000 Steal YouTube's thunder.

01:44:35.000 Take Joe Rogan.

01:44:37.000 All of a sudden, you got a whole bunch of users doing video content, competing with YouTube.

01:44:40.000 Yeah.

01:44:41.000 If Spotify pays the way YouTube does, that's real.

01:44:45.000 That's legit.

01:44:45.000 YouTube will be in serious trouble.

01:44:47.000 Yeah.

01:44:47.000 Serious, serious trouble.

01:44:49.000 Asaurus says, talk about Breonna Taylor.

01:44:52.000 She was a Kentucky EMT and the Louisville PD murdered her in her home.

01:44:56.000 The cops did a no-knock plainclothes raid on the wrong place.

01:44:59.000 Now her boyfriend is in jail for shooting back.

01:45:01.000 We've talked about that before.

01:45:02.000 Yeah, so ridiculous, man.

01:45:04.000 Man.

01:45:05.000 I can't believe this whole story is ridiculous.

01:45:07.000 And there's a bunch of stories like this.

01:45:09.000 Yeah.

01:45:09.000 It's almost like what we talked about.

01:45:11.000 Who was that dude?

01:45:11.000 Was it Philando Castile?

01:45:12.000 Philando Castile?

01:45:13.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:14.000 Yeah.

01:45:15.000 Right.

01:45:15.000 Castile, legal gun owner in his car, cop panics, shoots the guy.

01:45:19.000 Dude, I'd like to see the NRA actually deal with this stuff.

01:45:22.000 You know, that reminds me of that super chat.

01:45:24.000 Someone super chatted us yesterday, and they were talking about having insurance.

01:45:29.000 Like, why isn't there insurance for police officers?

01:45:32.000 Yeah, doctors need it.

01:45:32.000 Doctors need it.

01:45:33.000 If they mess up, it's part of it, malpractice.

01:45:36.000 And then the taxpayers aren't going to pay for it.

01:45:37.000 Exactly.

01:45:38.000 And it also makes the officers think twice, but not in a way that makes them feel necessarily unsafe, but makes them think about their pocketbook and their insurance rates going up.

01:45:47.000 It's tough, man.

01:45:48.000 There's a lot of good arguments for and against, and I know as soon as we say it, there's going to be a lot of people with really good points about why it wouldn't work, why it should work, or things like that.

01:45:56.000 Yeah, man, that story's nuts.

01:45:58.000 It makes me wonder why everyone's focused on, like, Ahmaud Arbery when you have a story of Breonna Taylor.

01:46:04.000 Inner bed.

01:46:05.000 Wakes up.

01:46:06.000 No-knock raid.

01:46:06.000 Boom.

01:46:06.000 Cops.

01:46:07.000 Bang, bang, bang.

01:46:07.000 Dead.

01:46:08.000 What would you do if someone kicked your door in and you had, you know, home defense weapons?

01:46:12.000 Like, I had a cop tell me straight up, I'd answer the door with my shotgun.

01:46:15.000 I knew what he was saying.

01:46:16.000 So what if I do?

01:46:17.000 And then someone, you know, the cops come for one reason or another.

01:46:21.000 Wrong house.

01:46:22.000 And the cop told me.

01:46:24.000 Here's what I'd do.

01:46:25.000 So I do.

01:46:25.000 And then what?

01:46:25.000 Now all of a sudden, I'm in jail.

01:46:28.000 You know, people here are injured and whatever.

01:46:31.000 No knock raids.

01:46:32.000 Who was it?

01:46:33.000 Somebody said no knock raids should be completely illegal.

01:46:35.000 I agree.

01:46:36.000 How is that even a thing?

01:46:37.000 I think it was Rand Paul.

01:46:37.000 I don't know how they became a thing.

01:46:39.000 Was it Rand Paul?

01:46:39.000 I'm gonna look it up.

01:46:40.000 It sounds like something Rand Paul would say.

01:46:41.000 It's insane.

01:46:42.000 I can't believe they are illegal.

01:46:45.000 No knock raids.

01:46:45.000 It just blows me away.

01:46:46.000 I can't believe it.

01:46:48.000 Yep.

01:46:49.000 It was Rand Paul.

01:46:52.000 That dude is awesome.

01:46:53.000 He's on it.

01:46:54.000 And it was about Breonna Taylor.

01:46:55.000 I think that it was, yeah.

01:46:56.000 That makes sense.

01:46:57.000 Yeah, Taylor.

01:46:58.000 Yes!

01:46:58.000 Rand Paul's a good dude.

01:47:00.000 It's funny because here we have an issue where it's like, I guess one of the complaints about it is that the NRA isn't getting behind them.

01:47:06.000 This dude was defending himself and his family from what he thought were home invaders.

01:47:11.000 Yeah, well that's the fault of the police, not him.

01:47:13.000 They should have known better.

01:47:15.000 But I'm glad to see that Rand Paul's standing up.

01:47:17.000 That's why I like the guy.

01:47:18.000 Guy's got principles, man.

01:47:19.000 Yep.

01:47:20.000 Clearly.

01:47:21.000 All right, let's see.

01:47:21.000 Where are we at?

01:47:22.000 We got a million and one superchats.

01:47:24.000 Terrence says, Tim, love your content.

01:47:25.000 Please look into a documentary on YouTube on Chinese geopolitical conquest that is called Trump's Biggest Failure.

01:47:31.000 It's an hour long and it's quite shocking.

01:47:33.000 All right.

01:47:34.000 Chaotix, thanks for the superchat.

01:47:36.000 The usual suspect says the UN went woke.

01:47:38.000 Why though?

01:47:39.000 They were already broke to begin with.

01:47:41.000 That's true.

01:47:42.000 Gaddock says, hi again, glad I could make it.

01:47:44.000 Not gonna lie, kinda excited to have YouTube die.

01:47:47.000 Also, took the political compass test.

01:47:49.000 There enough room on the fence for me, Tim?

01:47:51.000 It is a very, very long fence, so we're all standing in a single file line.

01:47:56.000 Balancing.

01:47:57.000 Six feet away though, social distancing.

01:47:58.000 That's right, that's correct.

01:47:59.000 No coughing, no spitting.

01:48:01.000 Darth Soldier says, I believe the word you're looking for is spooby.

01:48:05.000 It's a word in reference to someone that has absolutely no meaning.

01:48:09.000 And it's also a fun word to say.

01:48:11.000 Just call everyone a spooby.

01:48:13.000 I love it.

01:48:13.000 Yeah.

01:48:14.000 All right.

01:48:14.000 Spooby.

01:48:15.000 Spooby.

01:48:15.000 Carlos, thanks for the super chat.

01:48:17.000 Andrew, 10 bucks for saying that about dear person out loud.

01:48:22.000 Look, I don't, I don't go after people for brigading or anything like that.

01:48:26.000 I said it because I think it's important.

01:48:27.000 It needs to be talked about.

01:48:28.000 We're talking about people's health here, man.

01:48:29.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:48:30.000 is says people like that deerkin are M.I.C.S. uh mentally ill censorship shields. They show

01:48:36.000 people like floorbow front and center and hide everyone else in the group so that if

01:48:40.000 anyone speaks out against the censorship, cabal, you're an uh you're an ist? Oh yeah

01:48:46.000 yeah yeah yeah. It's like it's weird. I don't even care that they identify as a deer like

01:48:51.000 that, that's irrelevant. But when you start saying that all these people that you you

01:48:56.000 don't like are white supremacists and they better watch out because now I have the power

01:49:01.000 it's like okay if anyone said that I I am like it's what's going on here.

01:49:06.000 Yeah, like, some people like dressing up like animals and whatever, and they get along just fine.

01:49:11.000 Sure.

01:49:11.000 Some people have, you know, weird, you know, tics or whatever, and so you can be fine.

01:49:14.000 Yeah.

01:49:15.000 What I was referencing specifically is the weird noises and, like, voyeuristic behavior.

01:49:21.000 Those were really weird, yeah.

01:49:22.000 But the, you should be afraid of me.

01:49:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:49:24.000 That's, like, a sign of somebody who was stunted in their development and bullied and, like, dangerous.

01:49:29.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:49:30.000 What's interesting is, like, this person Where's the media to decry inceldom?

01:49:38.000 When they talk about these, you know, loners who say weird things, say you should be afraid of me and all this stuff, they immediately scream incel.

01:49:46.000 This person is the exact same.

01:49:47.000 Fits all the same, you know, checks all the same boxes.

01:49:49.000 It's true.

01:49:50.000 Oh wow, you're right.

01:49:51.000 Why can't you come out and say this is the same thing?

01:49:53.000 It's their version of that.

01:49:54.000 Seems like it.

01:49:55.000 And they defend it.

01:49:57.000 K.D.

01:49:57.000 Morris has ran the numbers.

01:49:59.000 If Rogan makes 75 an episode four times a week, no misses, that sums to 15.6 mil a year.

01:50:05.000 If Spotify has him for four years, that's 10 mil a year raise.

01:50:07.000 That's a pretty hefty chunk of money.

01:50:09.000 A lot of speculation, though.

01:50:10.000 We don't really know.

01:50:12.000 I do have to admit, I don't think we're gonna get to the extra segments.

01:50:14.000 Right.

01:50:14.000 Yeah, even the article said it was just someone who was close to the situation.

01:50:19.000 Yeah.

01:50:19.000 I don't know exactly their wording, but basically.

01:50:22.000 Vox Imaginum says, What are your thoughts about social distancing versus the mental health toll?

01:50:28.000 Social distancing seems to be the main thing that worked.

01:50:31.000 Yeah.

01:50:31.000 Not the lockdown.

01:50:33.000 Not locking down.

01:50:34.000 Yeah.

01:50:35.000 Because... Just washing your hands.

01:50:38.000 But no, no, no.

01:50:39.000 Wearing masks.

01:50:40.000 Limits the amount that you're coughing on other people.

01:50:42.000 Washing your hands.

01:50:43.000 Staying six feet apart.

01:50:45.000 Being in the sunlight.

01:50:46.000 But no big gatherings.

01:50:47.000 No shoulder-to-shoulder events and stuff.

01:50:49.000 That seems to be what's working, so...

01:50:50.000 Yeah, actually in all of our research through it all it seemed like these huge massive gatherings of humans like 7,000 to 30,000 people that was happening like these church events and that Smurf event like random things but there were huge groups of people meeting and then boom there was a huge outbreak in those areas and it's like okay well that makes sense.

01:51:14.000 Versus mental health?

01:51:16.000 Um, I don't know.

01:51:17.000 I don't know what the mental health toll is for social, social distancing.

01:51:20.000 I know the lockdown has had a toll.

01:51:21.000 Well, I feel like it's people, people are being locked in.

01:51:24.000 Yeah.

01:51:24.000 And now are having mental health issues.

01:51:26.000 They might've been on the, you know, fragile already.

01:51:30.000 There's a dude, the guy who was the founder of Ustream, the first streaming service I used, his kid committed suicide.

01:51:37.000 That's sad.

01:51:38.000 Very, very sad.

01:51:39.000 And now he's trying to do a campaign to raise awareness over what happened, and it was because... I think it's fair to say because of the lockdown.

01:51:46.000 Like, he was, you know, the kid's trapped inside.

01:51:48.000 All of his social life has been ripped right from underneath him.

01:51:51.000 Well, and the toxic nature of haters on the internet.

01:51:56.000 Like, you know, that person asked us, like, how do you deal with haters?

01:52:00.000 And it's like, well, you and I have really thick skin.

01:52:02.000 We can handle it.

01:52:03.000 People who don't have that thick skin are locked in.

01:52:07.000 Where do they get their social needs?

01:52:09.000 On the internet.

01:52:10.000 And when you go on the internet, if you're not prepared for it, it can be... Mental fortitude, man.

01:52:14.000 It can kick you over the edge, you know?

01:52:16.000 It's people with limited mental fortitude.

01:52:18.000 Yeah.

01:52:19.000 They, look, the people who react to social media numbers and then get addicted to it, weak mental fortitude, like bad mental fortitude.

01:52:27.000 Weakens you.

01:52:28.000 The people, well, it's not that, it's the people who are susceptible to it aren't of strong mind.

01:52:33.000 It's cause, not an effect.

01:52:34.000 They see that I tweet something out, I get a bunch of retweets, they get addicted to it, and they're not strong enough to be their own person.

01:52:40.000 Yeah.

01:52:41.000 So, they end up getting addicted, and then when people are mean to them, they have the same reaction.

01:52:45.000 They're not strong enough to be their own person.

01:52:47.000 Yeah.

01:52:48.000 It's unfortunate.

01:52:50.000 ATK says, the Twitch safety person is a trans biomale that identifies as a female deer.

01:52:56.000 Okay.

01:52:57.000 DarthSoldier says, this is how Twitch will die.

01:52:59.000 With the sound of thunderous applause of the RE community.

01:53:02.000 Yeah, it will.

01:53:02.000 Yes.

01:53:03.000 Oh, we just jumped.

01:53:05.000 I love it when... Or the cringy sound of that deer person getting their hair pet and them deer-gasming.

01:53:14.000 It was creepy, man.

01:53:16.000 Cringy.

01:53:17.000 It's voyeurism, I think.

01:53:18.000 Yeah, it's too weird.

01:53:19.000 I agree.

01:53:20.000 Let's see.

01:53:21.000 Hudson says...

01:53:23.000 Fun fact, female deer do not have antlers.

01:53:25.000 Forest creature, not the same person as Twitch Ambassador.

01:53:28.000 That's so funny.

01:53:28.000 Who supposedly got fired, doesn't seem to get it.

01:53:30.000 In one of the videos... That's a good point.

01:53:32.000 It's a male thing, they use it to fight each other.

01:53:35.000 Show who's the boss.

01:53:36.000 In one of the videos, this is really funny.

01:53:38.000 The other person in the video is stroking the trans deer.

01:53:43.000 That's so funny.

01:53:44.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:53:45.000 The person stroking the trans deer person says that, you know, the good thing about horse creatures is that they're very, like, vocal with what they like, and I'm like, horse creatures?

01:53:55.000 Horse.

01:53:56.000 What's a horse?

01:53:57.000 You mean an ungulate?

01:53:58.000 Like, is that the word you're looking for?

01:54:00.000 What is a horse creature?

01:54:01.000 Like, you're talking about horses?

01:54:03.000 I think it doesn't matter.

01:54:06.000 I don't think it really has anything to do with the animals.

01:54:09.000 I do love that word ungulate, though.

01:54:11.000 Ungulate.

01:54:12.000 Yeah, ungulate.

01:54:13.000 Yeah, it's a great word.

01:54:14.000 Yes.

01:54:14.000 Hoofed mammal.

01:54:16.000 I just found this out.

01:54:16.000 Elephants are subungulates.

01:54:18.000 Yeah, I looked it up.

01:54:20.000 Cool.

01:54:21.000 Elephants are cool.

01:54:22.000 Socialism is for figs.

01:54:24.000 Is the woman in the room, Lydia of White Run, a trumpster?

01:54:27.000 Trumpeter?

01:54:28.000 If so, I have more hope in this world.

01:54:30.000 Yes.

01:54:30.000 A trumpeter?

01:54:32.000 No, I'm not a trumpeter.

01:54:33.000 As far as playing a... Oh, I thought it was trumpster.

01:54:36.000 Yeah, I was not sure.

01:54:37.000 I think they're asking if you support Trump.

01:54:39.000 I think that's what it is.

01:54:40.000 I don't know yet.

01:54:40.000 I kind of like what he's doing.

01:54:41.000 Really?

01:54:42.000 I don't know.

01:54:44.000 I'm actually kind of surprised.

01:54:45.000 Why?

01:54:45.000 Because I would have assumed of the three of us you would be the biggest Trump supporter.

01:54:49.000 I feel like everybody assumes that.

01:54:50.000 Yeah, you're far right relative to us.

01:54:51.000 You are.

01:54:52.000 I'm closer to the middle than Tim is.

01:54:54.000 You're more to my center left at the moment, but...

01:54:57.000 I would like it on record that I'm closer to the center than Tim is.

01:55:01.000 But you're on the right.

01:55:02.000 Yes, I am to the right of the line.

01:55:03.000 So you're far right.

01:55:05.000 So you're all right adjacent.

01:55:10.000 I'm actually pretty far left.

01:55:12.000 Like you saw my social compass, right?

01:55:13.000 Yeah, he's further left than I am actually.

01:55:16.000 He's not as close to center as I thought.

01:55:17.000 He's the hippiest one in the room.

01:55:19.000 Is that the crazy thing?

01:55:21.000 It's totally true.

01:55:22.000 It's true.

01:55:22.000 Don't let the hair fool you.

01:55:24.000 It's funny.

01:55:25.000 I'll give a shout out to Stick Sex and Hammer.

01:55:27.000 He's a great YouTuber.

01:55:28.000 You should check out his channel.

01:55:30.000 It's hard to spell though.

01:55:31.000 That's the challenge.

01:55:31.000 I'm like 666.

01:55:33.000 Stick Sex and Hammer.

01:55:34.000 He's a cool dude.

01:55:34.000 But he made a video that said Something like libertarian socialism is not a thing.

01:55:39.000 Admittedly, I didn't get a chance to watch it.

01:55:41.000 I only watched a brief intro of it, because I'm mostly just working all day.

01:55:45.000 But I'm not saying this as necessarily to disagree with him, because I don't know exactly what his full point was.

01:55:50.000 But libertarian socialism absolutely does exist.

01:55:52.000 It's just a pipe dream.

01:55:54.000 That's the important thing that people need to understand.

01:55:55.000 The easiest way to explain it, because there's American Big L libertarianism, which tends to be right libertarianism, is that you can absolutely have libertarian socialism, However, it's basically like, imagine there's a farm, and a bunch of people live there, and they all just kind of do things and share everything, and no one really asks questions, there's no quantified trade, it's just like, hey look, I grew a bunch of, you know, strawberries, would you like some?

01:56:21.000 Thank you.

01:56:22.000 I made a hammock, would you like to sleep in it?

01:56:24.000 And then someone might leave.

01:56:26.000 And then someone else might come later.

01:56:27.000 And it's just about cooperative construction and stuff.

01:56:32.000 These things can't scale up.

01:56:33.000 That's why I say it's a pipe dream.

01:56:34.000 It doesn't work on the scale of humanity now.

01:56:37.000 It's a nice little farm.

01:56:38.000 Because there's not enough.

01:56:40.000 200 years ago?

01:56:42.000 Probably.

01:56:42.000 Small tribes.

01:56:43.000 Small tribes, yeah.

01:56:44.000 Small tribes, small villages, maybe.

01:56:46.000 That's why every time they try to do socialism, when they say, it's democratic socialism, it always becomes authoritarian.

01:56:51.000 Because they come out with the best of intentions, and they're like, now everyone can have food.

01:56:56.000 Then all of a sudden someone storms the store and says, you said it was free, and eats everything.

01:57:00.000 So then they say, that person can't have food.

01:57:03.000 There you go, authoritarianism.

01:57:05.000 Or, I'm gonna limit the food everyone can eat to only one, and it's like, okay, that doesn't work.

01:57:10.000 But, if you are a group of like, I think there is a hippie commune of like a hundred people, and it's libertarian, I think it's libertarian communist.

01:57:21.000 You can come and you can leave.

01:57:22.000 Where's that?

01:57:24.000 I don't know.

01:57:25.000 I was reading about it, and you have to apply to become a member, but once you join the commune, it's like, everyone agrees that you can come in because you're someone who's willing to work and share, and there's no conflict because everyone agrees with each other.

01:57:37.000 It's really easy to do, and people agree and are willing to be like, don't worry, I'll make sure I get this done and we can all share, and then there's relatively little conflict.

01:57:46.000 What about in Christiania?

01:57:48.000 Do you know about that?

01:57:49.000 What are they?

01:57:49.000 It's capitalist.

01:57:50.000 Totally capitalist.

01:57:51.000 They're stores.

01:57:52.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:57:53.000 Yeah, it's more like just straight-up libertarian.

01:57:57.000 It's actually fairly right, I guess.

01:57:59.000 It's probably centered.

01:57:59.000 It's probably moderate.

01:58:01.000 For those that aren't familiar, Christiania is in Copenhagen, right?

01:58:04.000 Yeah, in the middle of Copenhagen.

01:58:05.000 But it's segmented off where they consider themselves free and separate from Denmark.

01:58:10.000 A sovereign state.

01:58:11.000 And Denmark doesn't care.

01:58:13.000 It's like a great tourist attraction.

01:58:14.000 I think they care.

01:58:15.000 No, I think they love it.

01:58:16.000 It's tourism.

01:58:16.000 People want to go there.

01:58:17.000 That's true.

01:58:17.000 People go to Copenhagen just to go check that out.

01:58:20.000 It's true.

01:58:20.000 And when you walk in, it says, now leaving the EU.

01:58:22.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:58:24.000 It's a pretty cool place, actually.

01:58:25.000 Yeah, and there's like a burger joint.

01:58:26.000 We went and got like burgers and fries.

01:58:27.000 It's cool.

01:58:28.000 It's a cool place.

01:58:28.000 There's a skate park in there.

01:58:29.000 It's amazing.

01:58:30.000 A really dope skate park.

01:58:31.000 And you just walk in and it lets you skate.

01:58:32.000 I mean, it is very hippie.

01:58:34.000 The fact that someone built an indoor park.

01:58:36.000 You can just walk in and skate if you want.

01:58:37.000 And outdoor.

01:58:37.000 There's the outdoor section too.

01:58:38.000 That's huge.

01:58:39.000 Yeah.

01:58:39.000 Dude, that place is cool.

01:58:40.000 I love it.

01:58:41.000 I've been to Copenhagen way too many times for some reason.

01:58:43.000 No, Copenhagen is great.

01:58:44.000 No, I just mean like it's weird.

01:58:45.000 It's the cheapest place to fly into Europe.

01:58:48.000 And you can get anywhere from Copenhagen really easily.

01:58:51.000 And that's actually how I get to Sweden.

01:58:53.000 So I've also been to Copenhagen a lot.

01:58:55.000 Yeah, because the train right to Malmo, it's only like 15 to 20 minutes, right?

01:58:55.000 Yeah.

01:58:59.000 All the way into her hometown.

01:59:02.000 Oh, wow.

01:59:02.000 Yeah.

01:59:03.000 All right.

01:59:03.000 Let's see.

01:59:03.000 Where are we at?

01:59:06.000 Wallace says, I am a Subverse investor and supporter on Patreon.

01:59:09.000 Can you comment on how investors are affected by Subverse turning into Scanner, or the new fact-checking venture?

01:59:15.000 The new fact-checking thing I'm doing is totally separate from Scanner, and probably will independently fact-check Scanner stuff, but Scanner is on-the-ground, like, boots-on-the-ground reporting.

01:59:26.000 So it's gonna be legit, verified, like... The name change will have no impact whatsoever as far as I can... I'm 99% sure.

01:59:33.000 I say that because there's other people involved that run editorial.

01:59:37.000 But the only thing that changed is the brand.

01:59:41.000 It's just a lot of complicated stuff having to do with the brand, and we were like, let's just, you know, call it Scanner.

01:59:46.000 I have to be careful on what I say because it's independent from me and there are a bunch of decisions from the people who are running it, Rocco and Emily, that I am outside of.

01:59:56.000 I just try and make sure that they don't cross into fake news territory and then other than that they do their thing.

02:00:01.000 So, everything's going really, really well.

02:00:03.000 There's a lot of really, really good news for the supporters of Subverse.

02:00:08.000 The company is still Subverse, it's just... My understanding, to be careful, is the new brand is just Scanner, but the company is still the exact same company, so it doesn't change.

02:00:19.000 But there should be an announcement from the team coming soon, because there's really awesome stuff happening, and I think it's going to take off...

02:00:28.000 So that looks good.

02:00:29.000 I don't know what I'm allowed to say, but there's like some big projects with big companies and it's going to be like, nice.

02:00:35.000 Oh, we're coming.

02:00:36.000 Bill McPherson says, Tim, Yuri Bezmenov described the behavior of the leftist back in the eighties.

02:00:42.000 The whole idea is to demoralize society.

02:00:44.000 The UN is fundamentally intended to bring a worldwide communistic government.

02:00:49.000 Well, I don't know if I completely agree, but I can say, I don't understand why the UN would say those nonsensical things other than to confuse people.

02:00:56.000 Yeah.

02:00:58.000 Gender Neutral says, Ukraine just released Biden phone calls with former President Poroshenko.

02:01:03.000 Explosive international corruption and evidence of Biden accepting laundered millions from Burisma.

02:01:07.000 We'll see.

02:01:09.000 Let's see, JMac says, my kids think I only listen to you guys and Shapiro, despite having a range of channels I follow.

02:01:15.000 I appreciate you guys keeping it clean, even if it's mostly due to YouTube.

02:01:18.000 My son is seven, and he always recognizes your voice.

02:01:20.000 I want to make sure this is clear.

02:01:22.000 It wouldn't be YouTube, though.

02:01:23.000 I was swearing a lot before until I got emails from people saying, please don't swear because of my kids.

02:01:27.000 And I went, ah, because I didn't care before.

02:01:29.000 I taught skateboarding.

02:01:30.000 I have like 40 cousins.

02:01:32.000 It's crazy.

02:01:33.000 I've got a big family, all on my dad's side too.

02:01:35.000 It's insane.

02:01:36.000 And so I've been around kids my whole life.

02:01:38.000 I taught skateboarding for a long time.

02:01:40.000 The average age was probably eight.

02:01:43.000 So I've been around younger humans and I kind of, I have this filter

02:01:48.000 that I just kind of turn it off.

02:01:50.000 And I don't really swear a lot anyway.

02:01:53.000 I mean, I do, but especially when I'm on the show, I have that filter on.

02:01:58.000 It's not hard.

02:01:59.000 It was a few years ago, I got an email from someone saying I listen in the car, and my kids are listening.

02:02:04.000 So, if you could refrain from swearing.

02:02:06.000 And I was like, okay.

02:02:08.000 And then I started looking up, and it was later on that YouTube showed the guidelines about if you swear, you lose money and stuff.

02:02:14.000 And I was like, ah.

02:02:15.000 So that's secondary.

02:02:16.000 First and foremost, it's like, I don't want people to feel like they can't listen because they're scared their kids might hear something.

02:02:21.000 And it's not important to swear.

02:02:23.000 Right, right.

02:02:25.000 We get all of our points across.

02:02:26.000 There's rappers out there that don't swear, and it's like, people are shocked.

02:02:30.000 Like, whoa, you don't swear!

02:02:32.000 There's some very good rappers out there that do not swear at all.

02:02:35.000 Ooh, here's a good one.

02:02:37.000 Mark says, Europa has an ocean under its icy surface that is theoretically warmed up by the gravitational pull from Jupiter.

02:02:44.000 Because of the ice geysers on the surface, it's the best place to look in the solar system.

02:02:48.000 That's exactly what I was, that's why I brought it up.

02:02:51.000 Ethan Joannison says, where is the teeth on an almond atom?

02:02:56.000 A. Where is the teeth on the almond atom?

02:02:58.000 B. The teet.

02:02:59.000 I believe.

02:03:00.000 I'm willing to bet, yeah.

02:03:01.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

02:03:01.000 Almond milk?

02:03:03.000 Most dairy farmers work 18-hour days and get rewarded by losing money.

02:03:08.000 The big farms of over a thousand cows can die, but small dairies don't deserve to struggle.

02:03:11.000 Okay.

02:03:13.000 Well, I am the only person that makes all the choices for all of that, so you can be mad at me.

02:03:19.000 Shun says, YouTube doesn't even allow me to super chat 4chan with the number.

02:03:23.000 Wow!

02:03:24.000 But anyways, you guys should totally do a deep dive on Jovian and Saturnian systems and how awesome they are, like mini solar systems.

02:03:33.000 I don't know what that is.

02:03:33.000 Can you write that down?

02:03:34.000 Yeah, I'll look it up.

02:03:35.000 Thank you.

02:03:35.000 What does it say?

02:03:36.000 Jovian and Saturnian.

02:03:38.000 Yeah, the Jove system and the Saturn system, I'm guessing?

02:03:41.000 Vox Imogen, thanks for the super chat.

02:03:43.000 Greg Wolf says, it is not from 30 to 50 feral hogs that the security of a free state needs defending.

02:03:47.000 Do you remember that meme?

02:03:49.000 Which one?

02:03:50.000 Somebody tweeted... I don't think so.

02:03:52.000 They were like, you don't need these weapons.

02:03:53.000 And he says, what am I supposed to do when 30 to 50 feral hogs come, you know, storming my property?

02:03:56.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:03:57.000 And what's funny is, once again, you see... Or cougars, or, I mean, I lived in Arizona where there was mountain lions.

02:04:04.000 Javelinas.

02:04:04.000 Well, javelinas aren't really... They're hilarious.

02:04:07.000 I mean, I guess they could be.

02:04:08.000 Little warthogs?

02:04:09.000 But it's more the mountain lions that you'd have to worry about.

02:04:11.000 But they're out there, and they prawl around, you know?

02:04:15.000 Here's what's funny.

02:04:16.000 They're big beasts.

02:04:17.000 This person brought up 30 to 50 feral hogs, and the left started hooting and laughing and hollering, because they live in cities.

02:04:23.000 Right.

02:04:24.000 It's like, I guess being from Chicago, I understood when deer and coyotes would run through the city.

02:04:28.000 Yeah.

02:04:29.000 And like, oh look, wildlife!

02:04:30.000 Woohoo!

02:04:31.000 Dude, coyotes mauled your pets and stuff.

02:04:33.000 I know, yeah, exactly.

02:04:34.000 They'll eat your dogs.

02:04:35.000 Yep.

02:04:37.000 There's coyotes out in Arizona, too.

02:04:38.000 They're crazy out there.

02:04:40.000 It was funny, when I saw the 30 to 50 feral hogs, I looked it up, and it was like, people often need to defend against hogs raiding their properties, and I'm like, so why is this funny?

02:04:46.000 Yeah.

02:04:47.000 Because the leftists who were making fun of them didn't bother to look it up or read or understand what it's like to live in the country where you have to defend yourself.

02:04:53.000 It's like, that doesn't fit what my life narrative is, so I get to make fun of it.

02:04:57.000 It's like, come on.

02:04:59.000 It's silly.

02:05:01.000 Bill McPherson says, come to West Virginia.

02:05:03.000 The eastern panhandle is only an hour outside DC.

02:05:05.000 I'm from Maryland originally and left because of its restrictions.

02:05:08.000 Berkeley County is well developed and close to major highways and no zoning laws.

02:05:12.000 I mean, yeah, it's a couple hours from a bunch of big cities and airports.

02:05:16.000 So not perfect for having guests and stuff.

02:05:20.000 The Leopardy says, I don't recommend a shotgun for home defense.

02:05:23.000 Buckshot will go through a lot of walls without question.

02:05:26.000 An AR-15 with fragmenting hollow points is recommended.

02:05:29.000 You're responsible for every bullet you fire.

02:05:31.000 I agree with that last statement.

02:05:33.000 Good point.

02:05:33.000 Incredibly.

02:05:34.000 Yeah.

02:05:35.000 NR says, I feel like LID get like one comment in every 15 minutes.

02:05:39.000 Also, what is Adam's tattoo?

02:05:41.000 Snowflake?

02:05:41.000 Keep calm and avoid the media.

02:05:43.000 What tattoo?

02:05:44.000 Oh, on your arm.

02:05:45.000 Oh, this is the sun.

02:05:46.000 Wait, here.

02:05:47.000 My mom actually drew this herself and has the same tattoo in the same spot.

02:05:52.000 Cool.

02:05:53.000 And so she drew it.

02:05:54.000 I always like to keep a little sunshine with me.

02:05:57.000 That's very sweet.

02:05:58.000 And honestly, I say praise the sun as both a joke and also being dead serious because without our sun we would be dead.

02:06:07.000 George Carlin.

02:06:08.000 Like that is the reason we're here is that's that big huge globe in the sky and I give thanks to that because that's that's I know that exists.

02:06:16.000 I know that's real and I know that gives me life.

02:06:19.000 So that's why I have this sun.

02:06:21.000 All of that energy.

02:06:22.000 But I also have other tattoos.

02:06:24.000 Check out my like give me my close up again.

02:06:25.000 Oh wait.

02:06:26.000 This is one of my favorites.

02:06:27.000 This is from Gnostic Tattoo in New York and Brooklyn.

02:06:30.000 And it's this girl Maggie did it.

02:06:32.000 She's awesome.

02:06:34.000 It was a straight line.

02:06:34.000 It was a birthday present actually.

02:06:37.000 Yeah, I actually had a thinner line once, but I lost a big chunk of it.

02:06:40.000 I was skateboarding down a mountain.

02:06:42.000 I was going like 40, and someone cut me off, and I kind of hit some gravel, and I went into the ground, and it just ripped the tattoo out.

02:06:51.000 I actually pulled a little bit of the ink out of the scab.

02:06:54.000 Oh my gosh.

02:06:55.000 So I got that touched up, and now I actually love it so much more.

02:06:58.000 It's dope.

02:06:58.000 That's awesome.

02:07:00.000 Yeah, praise the sun.

02:07:01.000 Sean Moore says Jovian means Jupiter.

02:07:03.000 Jovial.

02:07:04.000 Cool.

02:07:05.000 Joe Ross says, who did Lids vote for in 2016?

02:07:08.000 I voted for... I voted for Gary Johnson.

02:07:10.000 Because I didn't like my options.

02:07:13.000 Yeah, it didn't work out.

02:07:15.000 All right.

02:07:16.000 It is now 10 p.m.

02:07:18.000 I actually want to try and get to that gym before it closes.

02:07:20.000 Hit up that last one.

02:07:22.000 That's fairly hefty.

02:07:23.000 Which one?

02:07:24.000 The very last one.

02:07:24.000 NR?

02:07:25.000 Yeah.

02:07:25.000 I did.

02:07:26.000 Oh, you just did.

02:07:27.000 Oh, that's the tattoo one.

02:07:28.000 Oh, I appreciate it.

02:07:29.000 So, if you want to get in your Super Chats, Thorman, right now, make sure to follow Adam down there.

02:07:34.000 Follow me.

02:07:34.000 Because you can send him story ideas.

02:07:37.000 And this is important.

02:07:37.000 I can't reach it.

02:07:39.000 You'll put up a pinned tweet.

02:07:41.000 I did.

02:07:41.000 It's always pinned on the top.

02:07:43.000 And then we actually do use the stories that you guys send.

02:07:46.000 Yeah, you guys really do help.

02:07:47.000 You can follow me at Timcast, where I post on Instagram pictures of cats and skateboarding.

02:07:52.000 But on Twitter I'm complaining about politics and media and stuff.

02:07:54.000 So you know what you're getting.

02:07:55.000 You can also follow Lydia.

02:07:57.000 You can.

02:07:57.000 Oh, wait.

02:07:58.000 I have a thing.

02:07:59.000 There it is.

02:08:00.000 Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-D-S.

02:08:02.000 On Twitter.

02:08:02.000 And she posts spicy memes.

02:08:04.000 I post all sorts of stuff.

02:08:05.000 I ask all sorts of questions.

02:08:06.000 And you're a meme now.

02:08:07.000 I am a meme.

02:08:08.000 I saw your meme today.

02:08:09.000 Yes, I am.

02:08:10.000 It is hilarious.

02:08:11.000 Is it a meme?

02:08:11.000 I'm a meme.

02:08:12.000 Kinda.

02:08:13.000 I mean, it's a gif.

02:08:14.000 Gif?

02:08:15.000 It's a gif, right?

02:08:15.000 Is it a gif?

02:08:16.000 I didn't show it to him.

02:08:17.000 Gif or jif?

02:08:17.000 It's very important.

02:08:18.000 I'll show him after the show.

02:08:19.000 Didn't the guy who created it say it was gif?

02:08:22.000 No, he said it was jif.

02:08:23.000 Oh, jif.

02:08:23.000 He said it was jif.

02:08:24.000 Oh, okay, cool.

02:08:25.000 You don't know?

02:08:26.000 He said it was GIF.

02:08:26.000 I disagree.

02:08:27.000 With what?

02:08:27.000 With the way he said it?

02:08:28.000 The guy who made it literally said it was GIF.

02:08:30.000 Okay.

02:08:31.000 Alright.

02:08:31.000 But that's how you interpret that?

02:08:32.000 It's GIF for you?

02:08:33.000 Yep, that's GIF for me.

02:08:34.000 So you're a GIF and the rest is GIFs?

02:08:36.000 Yes.

02:08:36.000 My favorite football team, the Giants.

02:08:38.000 The Giants?

02:08:39.000 And my favorite show in Vegas, the Magicians.

02:08:42.000 A soft G is not a thing, like giraffe.

02:08:45.000 Yes, it is.

02:08:46.000 That's why it's GIF.

02:08:47.000 You can have a hard G or a soft G. Right.

02:08:49.000 And the guy who invented it said it's GIF.

02:08:51.000 Alright.

02:08:52.000 It's like, could you imagine if someone... Well, you have a gym to go to.

02:08:55.000 Yeah, a gym.

02:08:56.000 A guy.

02:08:56.000 G-Y.

02:08:57.000 See what I did there?

02:08:58.000 Yeah, we got that.

02:08:59.000 All right, all right.

02:09:00.000 Enough arguing.

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02:09:38.000 Actually no, what is it Joe?

02:09:39.000 We got like 8 million subs?

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02:10:11.000 I don't have a favorite.

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02:10:21.000 Beanie bag.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - May 19, 2020

TimcastIRL - Joe Rogan Podcast LEAVING Youtube After $100M Spotify Deal, Youtube Is Over Party

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