Jack and Jack are joined by Dr. Steve Turley to update on the progress of Tim Poole's recovery from his recent illness. They also discuss the Minneapolis Massacre, and the efforts being made to raise money to help pay for the medical bills of a pro wrestler who suffered a traumatic brain injury.
00:02:13.000All right folks here we are Jack Pacific once again in for the great Tim Poole Did actually get a chance to see Tim earlier today and spent a little bit of time with him.
00:02:24.000He's still working through the throat issues, but he's doing better.
00:02:39.000We might might see him pop in here and there.
00:02:41.000The issue though is that if he pushes it too hard, he's going to be out again.
00:02:46.000And so that is why he's on the men right now and we're we're we're absolutely, you know, we can't, we, none of us can wait until Tim comes back.
00:02:54.000And the one thing that he did tell me to share with everybody, he said, wow, there's, you know, there's so much news.
00:02:58.000There's so many topics out there that it's killing him to not be working right now because he's got so much that he wants to shit to say and so much that he wants to share with everybody.
00:03:08.000So that's, that's kind of his message, but he's doing.
00:05:54.000Tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do.
00:05:56.000Well, we were actually just talking about this before we went live, but this is kind of a full circle for me, which is interesting because I was in academia for twenty years, and it was right at the height of the first Trump campaign.
00:06:12.000And I didn't think conservative commentators really understood Trump.
00:06:17.000They thought he was like a Democrat in sheep's clothing and all that.
00:06:19.000He sounded more like Bernie Sanders when he was talking about economics and so on.
00:06:24.000But I had studied nationalist populism and particularly the way it was exploding in Europe.
00:06:30.000And they focused on three things, border security, economic security and cultural security.
00:06:34.000And all of a sudden, when I heard Trump speak, I said, Oh my, it's come to our shores.
00:06:39.000So I was like, I looked at a colleague of mine who's in marketing, I said, You know, I'm really, I'm getting frustrated listening to these talk radio guys kind of going the more neocon ideological analysis of Trump, not quite understanding that this is a new paradigm, nationalist populism.
00:07:07.000And he said, well, here, let me share with you a couple of channels that are doing something like that, that are commenting and teaching through YouTube.
00:07:17.000And he sent me to, and I think you guys have had Sticks Hex and Hammer on here.
00:08:53.000And so, you know, anti-communists are certainly something that.
00:08:56.000That comes up tonight, a horrific situation where, And actually for this story, the the Minneapolis massacre, let's go over because we've got the Post Millennial, but we also have the editor and chief of the Post Millennial with us, Libby.
00:09:11.000Can you give us the the sort of update on not the update but just a rundown?
00:09:16.000If if someone's living under a rock they have no idea what happened in Minneapolis.
00:09:20.000Walk us through the story as you have it now.
00:09:24.000Well, this is something that we were tracking all day in the newsroom at the Post Millennial.
00:09:28.000I myself, Hannah Nightingale and Roberto Wake Roll Cruz, and they did most of the writing on this.
00:09:33.000And by the end of the day, I was like, go get some air guys because it's brutal just from the newsroomroom covering this kind of stuff, covering like massacres of children.
00:09:44.000So what we had in Minneapolis was a man whose mom used to work at the school who identifies as transgender, 23 years old, came up to the school.
00:09:56.000It was the first week of classes at Annunciation and all the kids were at mass.
00:10:02.000He had three weapons with him, a pistol, a shotgun, and something else.
00:10:17.000of the guns, one of them said, you know, kill Trump on it.
00:10:21.000Very reminiscent of the Christchurch shooter.
00:10:23.000Yeah, very like a lot of we've seen a lot of terrifying right on the messages came up to the windows outside the school, started shoot outside the stained glass.
00:10:34.000The church, yeah, the stained glass windows.
00:10:36.000It looks like maybe some of the doors were barricaded on the side that he was shooting into.
00:10:41.000He shot through the stained glass windows, shot, killed two students, injured fourteen students.
00:10:47.000There was actually a fifth grader who dove under the pews and said that his friend Victor covered him under the the under the under the under the pews, yeah, and protected him.
00:10:57.000And Victor got shot in the back and was taken to the hospital.
00:11:01.000And the shooter killed himself inside the church.
00:11:05.000And yeah, now there's 14 injured children.
00:11:08.000Two families have lost their children and some injured adults as well.
00:11:12.000And I think I did see, you know, I've been tracking all the updates, CNN and everyone and post millennial updates and of course Daily Mail.
00:11:20.000And I believe that they did say though that they believe that the injured students that are in the hospital as of right now are expected to recover.
00:11:29.000So they're, you know, we were hearing people that were on, you know, that were that were critical and it seems as though they're not anymore.
00:11:40.000And so the shooter, Libby, walk us through the very strange, very bizarre case, but unfortunately now becoming almost a trend of this, this Robert aka Robin Westman.
00:12:07.000No, I was just, I was talking to one of our writers who was was working on something and we were debating whether or not the idea was that this was a former student of the school.
00:12:20.000Well, it looks like the mother was a head.
00:12:22.000The mother was a head worked at the school.
00:12:24.000So this guy, as soon as it was revealed what his name was, which came onto social media before it came up in any of the news outlets, Robin Westman, it turns out that he had gender transitioned.
00:13:03.000And a lot of it was, we were looking at it and it looked like it was in Russian, but it was kind of phonetically used.
00:13:10.000Yeah, it was using the Russian alphabet, the Cyrillic alphabet, but it was English for the most part.
00:13:18.000So if you know the Russian alphabet, which is kind of just based on Greek anyway, if you know the Greek letters, you can I was trying to muddle my way through it earlier today and then someone used AI and that just you got it right why do we do it ourselves?
00:13:32.000Well, you got to, you got to challenge yourself.
00:13:34.000But, you know, very horrifying manifesto because what you would see in this thing, and maybe we will, maybe we will check out some portions of it because, yeah, we got it.
00:13:46.000You see, what you see is someone who is talking about very matter of fact how he plans to kill the children and is discussing, and it's almost a journal where he's like talking to himself quite a bit, where he's discussing when is the best time to target the children.
00:14:05.000Would it be when they're going into the gym?
00:14:10.000But it's tough because apparently the gym is in the basement.
00:14:13.000So they would be hard to get there with this arsenal of weapons, which, you know, obviously you can't really conceal a semi-automatic rifle.
00:14:22.000And then eventually we know, obviously he chooses this mass and I believe they were still entering And so it was this, so you can see the direct connection between the manifesto, the pre-planning, and the actual event itself, because the idea was to target the children as they were moving.
00:14:39.000The school is in one building and the church is in another.
00:14:41.000So the idea was to target the children as they were walking into the to the church and it's it's a miracle that that more were not killed.
00:14:54.000Yeah, because because because because of the way this was planned.
00:14:56.000It kind of reminiscent of the Nashville shooting.
00:15:10.000I want to get Dr. Turley's take on this.
00:15:12.000You know, why why are we seeing this trend?
00:15:17.000I'm just writing, I put a phrase down, the banality of evil.
00:15:22.000And if I recall, that was Victor Frankl's.
00:15:25.000phrase who suffered through the Holocaust and just the way I looked at some of those videos of him planning this attack and I just that's the that's the that's the motto that I heard it's just the pure banality of what he's doing.
00:15:40.000It's just so matter of fact and it reminded me of the Rutgers study that was published oh what back in May.
00:16:07.000The first was the amount of people said yes.
00:16:09.000It was about a third of those who said yes.
00:16:12.000But what was even more stunning was that a majority of self-identified Democrats, 55 percent, said that it was at least somewhat justified to assassinate President Trump.
00:16:30.000Sixty percent of self-identified leftists believed vandalizing and destroying Teslas was justifiable.
00:16:40.000And what we were seeing here and what shocked the scholars of this study is they were calling it assassination culture.
00:16:50.000And what it seems to be is the left appears to have lost the ability to discuss and to deliberate and to debate.
00:17:04.000What wokeness basically does is it designates certain things as so sacred, certain identities as so sacred that any dissent from them is considered to be heresy.
00:17:49.000They've taken to excommunicating their family members.
00:17:51.000And that was, that was, I think, the earliest sign for a lot of people was that if you can't, leave it at the dinner table and move on with your life with the people you have the closest relationship with.
00:18:02.000You can't expect them to hold that with people who believe something different that have no connection to them whatsoever.
00:18:06.000Well, there was this very crazy thing in July.
00:18:09.000There was an article out from the New York Intelligencer saying, It's okay to go no contact with your MAGA relatives.
00:18:19.000They've been saying the same thing since like 2016, 2017.
00:18:22.000And at the same time, also in July, same week, was an article from the New York Times, an opinion essay saying, Is it time to stop snubbing your right wing family?
00:18:35.000And so they're still debating this, right?
00:18:38.000And the crazy thing about the is it time to stop snubbing your right wing family one, the guy who wrote it was talking about how he got into surfing and the only person he knew who was into surfing was his MAGA brother in law.
00:18:50.000So he had to, like, you know, descend and lower himself to go talk to his brother in law because that was the only guy who knew who was surfing and the brother in law was like, sure dude, I'll go surf whatever.
00:19:02.000This, you know, this kind of stuff, we can laugh about it and we all, we all laugh about, you know, I've cracked more than my share of jokes about Antifa or others, but at the same time, these are the individuals who are so sick and twisted and depraved that they are far more willing to pick up a firearm and walk into one of these situations.
00:19:27.000A school with little kids and start opening fire.
00:19:32.000And so they're absolutely deadly dangerous and it's absolutely, deadly serious.
00:19:38.000And so, you know, we were, as this story was breaking, you know, I didn't even, I didn't, I didn't even mention it to my wife.
00:19:46.000I didn't even mention it to Tanya Tay because, you know, this, as we were finding out about this, our kids are in a Catholic school and we're., you know, we didn't have a school mass this week, but I'm sure we're going to, I think we have one coming up.
00:20:54.000You attack the children, you attack, you find the thing that's going to hurt him the most by going after that which is most precious to him, the children of God.
00:21:03.000There's a lot of substance to that argument, the idea that they're going in their mind, obviously, whatever.
00:21:09.000Yeah, I mean, whatever kind of twisted away they had approach the world.
00:21:13.000But it's beyond just attacking God for making them wrong.
00:21:18.000It's attacking God for the crime of making the world imperfect.
00:21:23.000The left really believes that you can perfect the world, that you can perfect humanity, that if you just make enough changes, just do enough things or whatever it is, the topic of the day or the topic that's most important on their mind, they believe that you can perfect humanity.
00:21:38.000That's why the farthest left believes in communism.
00:21:42.000They believe that they can perfect society.
00:21:45.000And so they want when they see the imperfections, they want to like lash out at God and all existence for the crime of being imperfect.
00:21:54.000Right, but it's human beings that brought imperfection and evil into the world, right?
00:21:59.000I mean, we're the ones that ate that apple and got kicked out of Eden.
00:22:02.000But for a lot of these younger, like the shooters of today, what is happening now is we've got decades of the media pushing back and saying that Christianity is evil.
00:22:14.000The other big thing with these stories is like, look, leftist violence is largely ignored in all sentiments.
00:22:20.000If you were to ask the average person, where do you know?
00:22:23.000If you were to ask the average person, like, where does the majority of the what they call domestic viol terrorism and violence coming from, they're going to tell you it's coming from the Right.
00:22:48.000But somebody said, like, isn't it interesting how after serial killers became media fascination in the in the 70s and 80s, it immediately gave way to school shooters in the 90s.
00:22:58.000And this was yesterday before that happened.
00:23:00.000And now that's kind of grown from what was serial killers as a matter of public fascination, school shooters in the 90s, it felt like it was about despair.
00:23:09.000and like a lack of motivation for life or a lack of home life, right?
00:23:16.000It was about your parents getting divorced and antidepressants.
00:23:19.000And that's just given way to another thing today, which is just further, which is identity.
00:23:25.000Sure, but now with the trans shooter and the, you know, which we've seen a number of trans shooters at this point, you have politicians wearing shirts that have like a knife on it and a rose or semi automatic guns saying protect trans kids.
00:23:40.000And that's the lieutenant governor of the state.
00:23:42.000Lieutenant governor of the state of Minnesota, yeah.
00:24:00.000And then, but then I want to go to the manifesto after this because we've got a few because we, we don't even need to speculate because this individual said in his own words all of the things that we're talking about.
00:25:26.000They're being possessed by literally evil spirits, demonic spirits.
00:25:32.000So when they commit crimes, if you're a protected identity, when you commit crimes, it's not your fault.
00:25:39.000It's the fault of the malignant spirits that are outside of your control.
00:25:44.000And in political correctness, what are those malignant spirits?
00:25:48.000Racism, bigotry, phobia and on and on and on.
00:25:51.000And so if you're part of that group, if you're committing crimes supposedly in the name of the right or and so forth, well then you are the demon.
00:27:04.000Whether it be the glorification of things that are essentially evil or symbols of evil, or the people that are actually on the attack are saying, well, I'm attacking because I'm actually being attacked.
00:27:18.000It's just an inversion of whatever the truth is.
00:27:20.000Let's, let's, because I was, I was, I was talking about this earlier with Libby, is that, you know, I, uh, when I see crazy, I want to poke it with a stick.
00:27:29.000So let's, let's delve into this manifesto a little bit.
00:29:17.000I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees constantly in pain.
00:29:23.000And you hear this framed as if this is some kind of heroic act, as if this is some kind of striking back against injustice by murdering children.
00:29:38.000Why would someone believe something like that?
00:29:40.000Yeah, I think that's absolutely insane that they would believe something like that.
00:29:43.000But this person is clearly deranged, right?
00:29:47.000They hate themselves, they hate everyone else.
00:29:49.000And so they determined completely sensically that they have to take children out.
00:29:54.000And children are also the embodiment of innocence, you know?
00:29:58.000It's people who have not, it's people who have not experienced the horrors of life or gone through intense difficulty.
00:30:07.000I mean, a lot of children do, but, you know, they don't look like it from the And so you decide to just But when you're that blinded by hatred and depression and nihilism, that doesn't even register to you.
00:30:19.000If anything, you feel anger towards someone who hasn't been faced, you know, hasn't had their life faced with those troubles yet.
00:30:25.000Like they don't feel a sense of guilt for what they're doing in that context, they feel anger that that person has not had to go through what they have.
00:30:35.000I'm thinking of a GK Chesterton quote, the early 20th century essayist, where he said, What makes suicide so horrible is you don't murder a man, you murder all men.
00:30:49.000And I'm reading that, and that's what I'm hearing.
00:30:51.000I'm hearing that kind of logic playing itself out.
00:30:57.000If I'm going to leave this world because I hate it so much, then my murder will be the murder of the world itself.
00:31:05.000Like we used to live in a world where the discussion of suicide was something that could actually be extremely nuanced, where if someone is going through cancer treatments, they don't want to go through this on their own.
00:31:24.000Like we're long past the discussion about the subsidies.
00:31:26.000That's the discussion about the sanctity of human life.
00:31:28.000And why wouldn't someone feel nihilistic and depressed when the media tells you that a certain side of the political aisle is evil?
00:31:37.000When a media tells you that violence against them maybe not in so many words, but you can only call someone evil so many times before you're cosigning the idea that violence against this person is a just act.
00:31:51.000We also have a problem, which is that morality itself stems from God and it stems from God's teachings.
00:32:03.000You have to base it in God's teachings or otherwise you end up with some sort of freakish utilitarism where everyone is just pushing for the most happiness.
00:32:57.000I mean, fair enough, but I think a boomer or a Night Xer.
00:33:00.000My point is like, the idea that morality is man made in the absence of God is something that, you know, again, goes back to Nietzsche, which is like 150 years ago or whatever.
00:33:13.000So I don't think it's particularly controversial.
00:33:16.000I think that, I mean, Nietzsche predicted essentially the whole of the 20th century and he predicted the nihilism that we're kind of going through right now.
00:33:22.000This kind of stuff is directly connected to nihilism and directly connected to the idea that nothing really matters if there is no God or whatever.
00:33:32.000So I don't I just don't think that that's actually correct.
00:33:35.000And you mentioned the inversion, which I think is very interesting because the Bible is a very clever book because in Genesis 3, when the serpent first appears, you'll notice the entire scene is inverted from the natural order of Genesis 1 and 2.
00:33:53.000So it's the animal telling the world so God creates the world and he creates, you know, it's God, it's man and then it's woman and then it's the animal that's cre the animal life.
00:34:11.000It's Eve now telling the man what to do and God is completely forsaken.
00:34:15.000And so when then in the curses, when God is cursing the ground and so forth and you will feel pain in motherhood and so forth, it's and you'll crawl on your belly the snake.
00:34:27.000It's a restoration of the right order again.
00:34:30.000But it seems like the clash between the city of God and the city of man is this clash between those who, like we were talking about earlier, rightly order our loves in accordance with God's economy of goods versus those who want to destroy that economy, invert it and so on.
00:34:46.000And I think another thing that fits into it as well, the violation of politically correct norms justifies hitting back.
00:34:55.000That's why you can have every city in the nation burn down in the summer 2020, but don't you dare, don't you dare break a window in the capital.
00:35:07.000The difference is one involved the supposed violation of politically correct norms, you know, a white cop killing a black man.
00:35:16.000That's the picture that people had back then.
00:35:19.000Whereas the other one, it's a bunch of MAGA faithful, MAGA, you know, Nazis trying to destroy our democracy.
00:35:27.000And bottom line, I remember just to wrap it up, I remember at the US Open, like in tennis, when was it?
00:35:35.000Like 2018 or so, when I think her name was Osaka beat Serena Williams.
00:35:41.000And Serena Williams had a meltdown in the championship on a court and she was verbally violent towards the empire, absolutely because he made a call she couldn't stand and she couldn't recover and she lost.
00:35:53.000And during the press conference afterward, she did not apologize., she justified herself.
00:35:59.000And she said, if I was a man, he would never have done that.
00:36:05.000If I was a man, he would never, and I'm standing up for women's rights.
00:36:10.000That press pool gave her a standing ovation.
00:36:13.000Billie Jean King tweeted out and said, You go girl, we're behind you 100%.
00:36:18.000Do you see, you violate politically correct norms, you are allowed to strike back.
00:36:24.000So here's one of the reasons, and I've talked about this for a long time, that every time you get a revolutionary movement, every time you're going through a cultural revolution, and they're always Marxists, but even Proto Marxists.
00:36:38.000if it's the French Revolution, the inversion of the societal order requires an inversion of the moral order.
00:36:47.000But the problem with this is that you have...
00:37:01.000It becomes an issue for the communists because they do believe in a higher power.
00:37:05.000That higher power, in this case, of course, being God, that is above the state, that is above whoever's in charge of the government, that is above the constitution as they've decided to twist it and add words to it and all the other stuff.
00:37:19.000And so this becomes exactly who they target because they know that the source of all of the status quo, which, and by the way, even if you read this manifesto, that's essentially what this freak is saying, is that the world is unjust.
00:37:51.000There was some kind of familiarity with the school, probably through the mom.
00:37:55.000And obviously when you read the manifesto, just not to get too much into the, you know, back and all that, but you can see there's this, there's a schematic of the layout of the church.
00:38:09.000There's a map, there's an understanding of the schedule, what we would call pattern of life of this school.
00:38:20.000And in fact, in other parts of the manifesto in some of these videos, he talks about going in and performing basic reconnaissance to find shooting angles, to find ways to, can I target the playground from the AutoZone parking lot and said and even writes this down.
00:38:36.000And by the way, had this, I'm going to say that right now, had this video not been uploaded to YouTube and found by the people on social media, we never would have seen it.
00:38:47.000We never would have buried it in this.
00:38:49.000It's absolutely would have been buried.
00:38:50.000And that's not a knock on, you know, Cash, Dambongino or anybody.
00:38:54.000It's just, I think that the local politicians in Minnesota would have Tim Walls would have done everything they can to Stonewall giving it to the FBI.
00:39:03.000They would have just absolutely just shredded it or burned it or something.
00:39:07.000And so it talks about, yo, I'm going to go to the AutoZone and pretend that I'm working on my car, but actually, because you can do that at AutoZone.
00:39:15.000You can work on your car in the parking lot.
00:39:34.000That in this situation, this school is chosen probably because of the familiarity, but also because it's Christian.
00:39:44.000So they always target Christians first, they go for the young because they view that as something that they know they can sense that this is in their way.
00:39:56.000You see this in France, you see this in Spain, you see of course see this in Russia during the revolution there as well.
00:40:02.000In China, of course, there's the traditional religion, it's not Christian, but it's also targeted as well.
00:40:09.000The Confucian temples and Buddhist statues are destroyed.
00:40:13.000And so, and what do you see here in the United States?
00:40:15.000Places of worship, children who are involved in literal worship are going on.
00:40:20.000And at the same time, at the same time, what do we see these politicians attacking the process of religious worship starting, by the way, with the mayor of the city, Jacob Fry.
00:40:37.000And I waited all morning to see, do we have the clip?
00:40:41.000Do we have the actual clip of Jacob Fry?
00:40:43.000We should play this because I waited all like everyone we're waiting all morning to find out what was going on and then this is not the one.
00:40:49.000No, no, no, this is not the first one.
00:40:51.000And keep in mind, this is the guy that was kneeling at the gold draped coffin.
00:40:56.000I mean, of George Floyd and he's going to lecture us about prayer.
00:41:00.000What are the odds that it's the same guy, the same city, the same city?
00:41:03.000He's still the same mayor, the same Hennepin County that that lied about the George Floyd autopsy that changed the George Floyd autopsy after pressure from the FBI.
00:41:14.000The great Liz Collin, go follow all of her work, by the way.
00:41:18.000And so everyone's waiting, the whole country and all around the world are waiting to find out what happened.
00:41:24.000And even before the chief of police gets up and explains what happened on the ground and the situation, this is what we hear from Mayor Jacob Fry.
00:41:37.000Those families are suffering immense pain right now.
00:42:16.000These are kids that should be learning with their friends.
00:42:21.000They should be able to go to school or church in peace without the fear or risk of violence and their parents should have the same kind of assurance.
00:42:34.000These are the sort of basic assurances that every Okay, so stop.
00:44:53.000Then they moved and they're in a different area now.
00:44:56.000And she said that since George Floyd and Derek Chauvin have happened, this is probably the biggest news other than this story, but that may have led to this.
00:45:04.000So in 2020, start of 2020, trying to get the numbers right here.
00:46:05.000And that was at a time when politicians on the federal level with Kamala Harris was putting bail reform stuff in their profiles, which, you know, like Minnesota bail is you take advantage of the well meaning people who think that she's painting a picture in your mind that fascist cops are going around and just arresting people or holding up signs.
00:46:22.000You and I understand that that is not true, that these people were committing violent acts.
00:46:26.000There was billions of dollars of damage done.
00:46:28.000But the narrative that's painted in the minds of the people who don't, you know, bless their souls, they don't take the time to think about the stuff they've got kids, they've got families, they've got a life to live and they're living under this illusion that politicians are well meaning and that the media is well meaning and they wouldn't lie to you.
00:46:44.000No, they want to bail out criminals because they want those acts to continue.
00:46:49.000And in fact, she posted the link and was raising money for, I think they called it the Minnesota Freedom Fund or the Minneapolis Freedom Fund that went to the bail.
00:47:34.000But mark my words, every single time one of these organizations, one of these revolutions is let to go to its ultimate end, it always ends with dead Christians and dead Christian children.
00:47:46.000All I got to say to you, Mr. Mayor, is God will not be mocked.
00:47:50.000And even beyond that, like if you think about what it was like when.
00:47:54.000The Columbine in the 90s and it was about nihilism and despair with teenagers, right?
00:48:00.000What that formed into as far as media framing was white male rage that are guns.
00:48:05.000And so this forces them to pivot immediately to guns because they don't want to have a discussion about whether about whether identity played a role in something like this.
00:48:13.000You could still have the discussion about depression and antidepressants and SSRIs, all these things that were in the manifesto that were talked about, talking about being depressed.
00:48:23.000But that's a very hard discussion because it's sitting right next to the issue with the fact that this individual is trans and they don't want to have the discussion.
00:48:30.000And that's what I hate the most about media and politics is from the moment that that that he started talking, it was immediately to the guns.
00:48:38.000That's immediately where they're going to go.
00:48:40.000There was mocking of Christians in there for sure.
00:48:43.000But what I see right there is immediately pushing you to your prayers are not enough because we have something we need to stop.
00:48:48.000But understand that we've gotten to a point in this country where Christians, and specifically white Christians, and this school was, was, vast majority white, if you look at any of the pictures coming out.
00:48:59.000And so it's, it's been so derided as sort of the Kulak class of America, this is the backbone of the middle class, et cetera, that in every revolution you must have a demon.
00:49:11.000And so their demon is white Christians.
00:49:14.000And so it creates a problem for the left when they have to sort of pretend like they care about white Christians for a day or two.
00:49:24.000But even in that moment, for a minute.
00:49:26.000He couldn't even hold it for a minute.
00:49:27.000He couldn't even hold it for a minute to say like, and he still has this knee jerk response to attack prayer and at a Catholic church, again, as the blood is still wet on the children's bodies, he has to mock them.
00:49:42.000And we live in a society now where there's he will not be shamed, he'll probably be supported.
00:49:47.000And then you have Jen Psaki doing the same thing, and I believe Michael Steele, former actually at one point, you know, at one point RNC got RNC chair, but you know, he's effectively been a liberal for years at this point at this point.
00:49:57.000And he was saying the same thing up on MSNBC.
00:49:58.000Yeah, you know, you're bringing up brilliantly.
00:50:01.000Just to finish this off, name any other religion you could do that about.
00:50:05.000If this was a synagogue, if this was a mosque, would you hear anyone say saying that kind of thing?
00:50:09.000Because it doesn't absolutely fit into the cultural Marxist line area of oppressor versus oppressed.
00:50:14.000And this is the brilliance, I think, of what you're talking about, because you're pointing out their bait and switch.
00:50:19.000So you know, if this were a white person going in, right?
00:50:24.000If the cultural Marxist identity structures were affirmed today, they wouldn't be talking about if he walked into a black church and did this, especially if it's a man, right?
00:50:35.000Dylan Roof, we know this has happened.
00:50:40.000They immediately make it all about identity, immediately, and then and they and they generalize the identity that the shooter and the victims were microcosms of this larger oppression and this larger war that's happening in our country.
00:50:55.000But if you don't have the right identity boxes checked in this situation like that, there's a bait and switch.
00:51:01.000Well, we can't draw conclusions about individuality.
00:51:06.000This was an individual, I mean, a Muslim thought, oh, Islam is a religion of peace.
00:51:10.000We don't, we don't, we don't want to be Islamofobic.
00:51:36.000And I have heard about a whole lot of hate that's being directed at our trans community.
00:51:45.000Anybody who is using this as an opportunity to villainize our trans community or any other community out there has lost their sense of common humanity.
00:52:16.000Suddenly when it's the trans community, how dare you How dare you say anything about our beloved trans community?
00:52:25.000Don't you dare spread hate when he himself participated in spreading hate against Christian children who were killed just, you know, I think hours before this happened.
00:52:37.000Or the systemically racist police department of Minneapolis.
00:52:40.000And how dare they what they did to this poor George Floyd and so forth.
00:52:44.000He has no problem scapegoat an entire country.
00:53:18.000the LBGT stuff that has really been pushed to the back burner by a lot of Democrats that want to, you know, that want to kind of catch the middle back and bring the middle back because the left's further left proclivities or whatever, they're very unpopular with the American people, especially like trans stuff, it's been rejected pretty handily.
00:53:39.000And the fact that he's actually kind of jumping back into that leftist, very progressive kind of talking point and also the eighty twenty doom loop.
00:53:49.000Yeah, exactly, like taking up the twenty side of an eighty twenty issue.
00:53:53.000I'm a little on the I'm a little surprised he has to though.ough?
00:53:56.000But he has to whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa in his in his party he has to because just like Pete Buttigieg, what is he?
00:54:14.000Gavin Newsom kind of hedges his bets, right?
00:54:16.000And if you look at the DNC annual meeting that they have this week in Minnesota, you will hear what's his name?
00:54:23.000Keith Ellison from Minnesota, the Attorney General from Minnesota, talking about how great it is that so many Democrat-led states are suing the Trump administration over child sex changes.
00:54:34.000Now, they're not opposed to the child sex changes.
00:55:52.000They hang out in LA and New York and all these beautiful cities that have terrible crime rates that really should not have terrible crime rates because they're great cities.
00:56:00.000But they hang out there and they look at everyone else and they say, These people are uneducated and they're stupid and racist and homophobic.
00:56:47.000And so they're maybe they will couch their opinions for a little bit, maybe they'll say, like, oh, you know, mister Lucy shouldn't play girls volleyball.
00:56:56.000But that's only going to be until they get some power back and then they're going to push it down our throats again.
00:57:02.000For Gavin Newsom also, it's because I think he has national ambitions and for a blue state democrat that's solidly blue, he doesn't need to do that if he's not planning to go past the state level.
00:57:13.000I mean, I think you're probably right, but I do think, and look, this is just because I'm looking at the polls and I look at the way that people have reacted to the Democratic Party, and it would be my gut instinct if I were in his shoes to not jump back on to the twenty of an eighty twenty issue.
00:57:30.000And the Democrats overall, more broadly, they should do that.
00:57:45.000That's why you see a bass out the mayor bass always on the side because they would rather have post-americans as their constituents than actual Americans.
00:57:58.000And that's why they don't actually want to change policies.
00:58:28.000They want to get rid of the Electoral College.
00:58:30.000These are all ways to change the constitution.
00:58:33.000Any law passed before 1964 Civil Rights Act is null and void because it was an apartheid state.
00:58:39.000These are all ways that they want to actually retain power in total defiance of the will of the American people.
00:58:46.000The American people do not find these policies popular at all.
00:58:50.000They don't care to adjust their message to represent the people.
00:58:53.000What they want to do is they want to control what the people think and what the people actually do.
00:58:58.000I just want to throw out real quick here that maybe I offer something a little bit more positive because we just got, and I know a little early for the super chats, but I was late yesterday.
00:59:08.000But we just got one in here from Roberto saying that in keeping up with tradition, I'm super chatting from the labor recovery room, welcoming my first child into the world.
00:59:52.000And religious conservatism is the number one indicator for reproductive trends.
00:59:59.000So one of the coolest things that we are seeing among red states, one of the reasons why the political power is shifting to the red, what are they talking about?
01:00:10.000It will be sooner if we get a census before then that doesn't include illegals.
01:00:15.000But we got a 14-point electoral swing to red states, not just because of left UGs who have left California and so forth, but also because religionious conservatives are having more children than ever while secular liberals have largely stopped having children.
01:00:32.000Well, not just stopped having children, but are also Yeah, literally, yeah, the other way around, exactly.
01:00:37.000So that's one of the most beautiful things.
01:00:39.000Eric Kaufman, University of London scholar, wrote a book in 2013 called The Religious Shall Inherit the Earth.
01:01:19.000But the only problem that I see with that, not that I'm saying that he's wrong, the only problem that I see with that is there are very few Gen Z compared to, you know, the larger, like it's just a small number of people.
01:01:30.000I think that's because so many of them were aborted.
01:01:38.000But what is neat with Gen Z, the new generation, is the new generation.
01:01:40.000The New York Post had a really good article on this that for the first time that they can remember sociologists found that men were more religious than women.
01:01:53.000In sociology, women being more religious than men in terms of identifying as religious, that's almost like a rule, an axiom of sociology.
01:02:04.000For the first time, they now see men, more men, and it was a large number, if I recall, it was even double digits or so, thirteen percent or so majority of men saying, yeah, I'm religious.
01:02:15.000They're calling it the Jordan Peterson phenomenon.
01:02:17.000You want to talk about God writing straight lines with a crooked stick.
01:02:21.000He used a secular Canadian psychologist to bring all these men to church.
01:02:28.000And they're not just going to happy clappy churches, they're going to really hardcore traditionalist churches.
01:02:34.000I think too that you're starting to see this generation that, and when you talk about Gen Z, you could also bifurcate it into the really just the eighteen to twenty two s currently.
01:02:44.000So the younger end of Gen Z is even far more to the right than all of Gen Z, and particularly the men, because why was this?
01:02:56.000Yes who not figuratively, literally had years of their childhood, two, two and a half years of their childhood, their absolute most precious formative years, just completely stripped from them.
01:03:12.000They saw that all of the institutions failed, completely failed.
01:03:16.000Meanwhile, what was happening in the streets and here we are again, Minneapolis, right, starting in Minneapolis, the burning of the streets, the attack on the third precinct that spread across the entire country.
01:03:29.000Meanwhile, they were told they had to shelter in place and take an experimental drink that, you know, I don't know what the line is on that these days, but an experimental or you can't get to college.
01:03:57.000They feel like they've been sold a lie in the country in a lot of ways.
01:04:01.000College has now vastly been proven for a lot of them, unless you're going to be a doctor, something that requires accreditation, that it's a debt trap that's going to keep you in prison for years.
01:04:11.000And women are graduating colleges at higher rates.
01:04:14.000Obviously, like you said, it seems to be be that there's more atheism showing up around college, around women, because in many ways the university has become their god or social justice has become their god.
01:04:23.000Women, yeah, they've become more liberal.
01:04:25.000I do think for Gen Z, I worry more than some people, I think that they're going to turn to a communist state eventually because the financial problems that they're facing are so great and so vast and it seems so hard to look with housing rates, what they are, interest rates, they don't see a path forward and what they're just waiting for is a charismatic person from the other side of the aisle.
01:04:50.000You know what Bernie Sanders would have been in 2016 with a populist message saying, I'm here.
01:04:56.000This is why someone like, and I know there are a lot of people out there that hate when I say this, but this is why someone like AOC is such a dangerous politician.
01:05:05.000She has very far left impulses and she's very charismatic.
01:05:33.000Yeah, I mean, look, so there, you know, I mean, a broken clock's right twice.
01:05:38.000The fact of the matter is, like, someone like that can't, that's why I, that's why I harp on the economy all the time.
01:05:44.000If the economy is bad, come 2028, someone like AOC can get into office because the voting public is going to be like, well, the conservatives didn't do it.
01:06:10.000that this is the two sides of Gen Z, right?
01:06:13.000So Gen Z has no middle from what we're seeing in the data.
01:06:17.000It's either you're all the way like super pro Trump or even beyond that where you're saying Trump is not going hard enough, like he's not deporting enough, he's not locking up enough, he's not sending enough troops out there.
01:06:37.000The other side is this, this trans shooter saying I want to burn it all down.
01:06:45.000I mean, that's a bet, that's an even better example.
01:06:47.000I wish I would have thought of that that earlier talking about when they feel like they can do the most horrific things and find their own justification for it.
01:06:54.000You know, this guy who's a CEO who under our laws has not committed any crimes and there were millions of people justifying those actions.
01:07:15.000I mean, if you violate politically correct norms, you get excommunicated.
01:07:20.000Well, and all of this, all of this comes back on the heels of the fact that our.
01:07:27.000And this is going to sound like a leftist kind of thing to say, but The one percent in this country, the elite in this country are doing so well right now and they're so divorced from where the working class is.
01:07:40.000They're so divorced from the pressures that the middle class is facing, particularly from the migrant crisis as well as just every institution, everything that's supposed to be working in society feels like it's falling apart.
01:07:53.000And meanwhile you can go online and it's like, oh, here's another mega billionaire getting married.
01:08:26.000I don't think that's even a leftist idea.
01:08:27.000I think that they just, they come down on opposite sides of how to fix it.
01:08:30.000And many times they see it as a capitalist system that's failed, that's failed to live up to what it's been said to be, whereas the right sees it as a problem of regulation and that the system has been created through loopholes and cronyism to give them a step over all of the regular person.
01:08:47.000Like when you look at like who's invested in the market, it's like what high 90s percent, it's people that are in the top 10 percent of the income bracket and very few people that are living either paycheck to paycheck or their family has a modest savings are really able to invest in the market in any way that's going to meaningfully change their financial future.
01:09:07.000And it's just more an issue of like where you believe the problem comes and that just depends on where you get your news in a lot of ways.
01:09:13.000Like the person who's telling you that Jeff Bezos is the problem, that depends on whether you believe that it's a net positive for society to create a whole bunch of jobs and give you the option of receiving almost any product in the world at your house in two days.
01:09:28.000And do you see that as a benefit to our society or do you see it as something that it's just people lining the pockets of someone who's worth billions of dollars?
01:09:37.000And that's, I think that speaks more to their work.
01:09:39.000Actually, and someone just mentioned this in the chat, I totally missed this earlier and Libby, we should definitely write this up.
01:09:46.000In one screenshot of the manifesto, there are Luigi stickers.
01:10:17.000So when we published the book Unhumans last year, this is what we talked about.
01:10:20.000We said the situation has gotten to the point where either we're going to have a populist solution to it, whereby in, you know, we don't and on the MAGA side, we don't demonize people for being successful.
01:10:32.000We don't, in fact, we champion people for being successful as long as they do so in a, shall we say, non parasitic, non cheating cronyist kind of conversation.
01:11:07.000And specific, and here's what's here's what's so interesting.
01:11:09.000And you see this again and again in these studies that we did, these case studies.
01:11:14.000They don't go, they don't actually go after the super wealth off middle class.
01:11:20.000So just like in the French Revolution.
01:11:22.000So for example, they don't they're not targeting like the super rich billionaires.
01:11:26.000They're not targeting the super rich even of the elites.
01:11:29.000But what they might do is say, Oh, I don't know if you can afford to send your kids to a private religious school.
01:11:35.000Right, but they didn't shoot up, you know, whatever the boarding school is out there.
01:11:39.000Do you think part of the reason why that is, is because when you're dealing with people that are billionaires, like actual billionaires, they're so disconnected and cut off and isolated from the rest of society.
01:11:49.000Whereas if you're dealing with someone that's like a millionaire, that's like the CEO of United Healthcare, he was like he was worth something like 44 million dollars, which is a lot of money, but that is a world of difference between billionaires, right?
01:12:02.000Is it, do you think that it's just an access thing?
01:12:04.000The people that are worth, you know, $10, $20 million, they're actually walking among us, whereas people that are worth billions and billions of dollars, like they don't actually mingle with average people.
01:12:16.000Yes and no, but what's interesting though is that you see these patterns echo for the, for the, for the last 250 years, we've seen this pattern play out again and again and again, and it is typically the scion of those same families.
01:12:30.000So it's typically upper middle class individuals that turn to this level of radicalism.
01:12:36.000Luigi Maggioni's family, very, very wealthy.
01:12:40.000In this case, you know, we mentioned before that this, you know, it looks like obviously, you know, these surgeries or these hormone replacement therapy, it's very, it's very expensive to get into.
01:12:50.000And yet it looks like this person was going through them, had a family that, you know, worked at the school, was involved with the school in this, this private education world.
01:13:08.000So there were some people going in and finding tweets or Facebook posts from the dad where he was celebrating his daughter.
01:13:17.000celebrating his daughter's birthday, cosigning the mental illness, and even also they found some posts from the dad celebrating the conviction of Derek Chauvin.
01:13:31.000And I don't mean saying, you know, I don't mean like saying, I don't have these exact posts in front of me, but it wasn't saying like, Oh, justice has been done and this was good that, you know, that it happened.
01:13:46.000You know, and I'm trying to be cognant at the time and we could go off on all this in every direction.
01:13:51.000But one thing that I do want to get into is there is this tensionion, right, that has come up.
01:13:56.000And so, okay, thoughts and prayers, you know, oh, thoughts and prayers, et cetera, et cetera.
01:14:01.000I mean, that's not the purpose of thoughts and prayers, right?
01:14:03.000Which, which, by the way, to your point, conservative religion is, is, is far more religious.
01:14:09.000They're also more, the, more likely to be the gun owners and those to, uh, to understand that you need to take physical steps to protect your property and your family and your children.
01:14:27.000So, this is what we should talk about though, is there a school safety issue in this country yeah and you know there there is a tension between where we are as a country and where certainly we have a problem with school shooters and it's it's it's it's silly to to claim that we don't um scandinavia they have a problem with school stabbers they certainly do and so and so and even then like i don't want to i don't want to you know go and talk about some other country we live here so
01:14:58.000what do we do And I think clearly for religious school, this is something that I've brought up before when it comes to religious schools, set up programs and there should be 501C3s set up religious non- nonprofit setup where you take, you know, former law enforcement, former veterans, and you just set it up so that each school can have someone that is armed, that is security, that is there, that's able to be, able to be around in case of a situation like this.
01:15:27.000It's, I hate that we have to talk that way, but I want my kids to be safe.
01:15:33.000There was a vote on my local ballot last year about finding more money to put resource officers, AKA cops, security in schools, and that passed pretty, pretty overwhelmingly.
01:15:58.000The first one is breathing, eating, and so forth.
01:16:01.000But then the second one is shelter, it's safety, it's security.
01:16:04.000I just think what Trump is doing in DC, and you're seeing it firsthand, and what he's promising to do in Chicago and Baltimore and so on is brilliant.
01:16:16.000Because I mean, look at how it worked out for Nayib Bukele of El Salvador.
01:16:23.000You're being, I would turn it into a verb, turn it into a we Bukele at all the cities and then he goes for reelection and wins with 85% of the vote.
01:16:33.000The claim that this is somehow unconstitutional or we're losing our freedoms and so forth just ends up falling into dust when you can't trust whether or not you let your kids off at school in the morning, are they going to be safe?
01:16:56.000So Bukele proved that if you meet Maslow's hierarchy of needs, particularly safety and security, like we were just talking kind of the socialism, that was the food and the water and the, you know, just basic material conditions, but right at, right on top of that is you've got to have safety and security.
01:17:15.000And if you don't have safety and security, you're not free.
01:17:17.000And if I think Trump has a real gold in his mind.
01:17:20.000I think the people who are making their, if you were a non-leftist, a non-partisan making an argument against Trump in this case, it would be because it's a states' rights issue, right?
01:17:28.000That they're saying that you're bringing in federal officers where it's something that should be left to the states because it's not your job.
01:18:21.000The thing is also is the argument is also to the contrary., that for someone who if you're living in Chicago, if you're living in Illinois, that they're not going to vote in politicians who will put in people in the law enforcement that will actually be able to uphold the law in a way that keeps people safe, and that this is a band-aid until the next administration comes in, and then it gets removed and things go right back to the way they were.
01:18:46.000And some people's argument may be that they need to feel the pressure to finally put someone into power that will do this at the state level so that the federal government doesn't get accused of encroaching where they don't have a right to be.
01:18:59.000I'm not saying that that's necessarily what I believe.
01:19:01.000I'm saying I understand that argument if you're worried about federal overreach.
01:19:05.000Let me toss this out then as well to the mix because Libby, you probably have a better number than me, but this is how many times have we seen these mass shooters and they turn out to be trans?
01:19:16.000They turn out to be involved in some kind of either homer replacement therapy or the SSRIs and we have this mass mental illness problem going on and we claim it's a mass shooting problem, but actually there are these connections.
01:19:32.000Do we have an issue in this country where we've got millions of guns in this country and we also have millions of people on SSRIs and now more and more people on hormones.
01:20:52.000Yeah, I think that I think that those are pretty bad.
01:20:54.000You've seen the effects, you know, people get really like., like their personalities get washed out.
01:20:58.000I think the cross sex hormones are a really bad idea.
01:21:01.000RFK came out just today with a whole new thing about nutrition and putting proper nutrition education into premed programs in order to deal with preventive diseases.
01:21:12.000And I think there's a lot to be said for eating right and exercising and seeing friends, making friends, going to church and realizing that the individual self is not something to believe in, right?
01:21:29.000Like we hold ourselves up as these mini gods and in fact we should be looking outside of ourselves.
01:21:36.000We should be looking at God for meaning.
01:21:54.000Yeah, so, Phil, what are the laws on the books as far as being on prescription medications and owning firearms?
01:22:03.000I don't know specifically what the I know you can't have like a weed card and when it comes, yeah, so if it's anything illegal, federally illegal, and you're the 4473, which is the form you have to fill out to actually acquire a firearm.
01:22:16.000It's it asks if you're on any kind of illicit drugs.
01:22:20.000I'm not sure what the legality is regarding things that are prescribed.
01:22:25.000So if someone's given a prescription for something like SSRIs or whatever, if you're if you're taking those and your doctor prescribes them, I don't know what the legality is about that.
01:22:32.000don't think that there's anything prohibiting that, at least on a federal level.
01:22:38.000Which, by the way, Robert would have had to lie about to get these guns, because I think these were recent purchases.
01:22:46.000So I don't know the exact time frame, but it seems as though he purchased these firearms possibly while working at a cannabis dispensary.
01:24:36.000And I'm forcing the argument because I think it's an argument which, whose time has come, right?
01:24:43.000We can't be a country that has both of these things of mass medication, mass medication.
01:24:48.000Mass psychological and psychiatric medication that so many people are on, which by the way, and the way we deal with mental health in this country is such a joke.
01:24:56.000Now, I think the original way around this, around this trap was much simpler.
01:25:02.000And in if you go back, and I was digging into this part before the show, and the history of this country is very simple that under the madhouse laws of English common law, if you and if you go back to Blackstone and all the rest of this, it was very simple.
01:25:17.000If you were a lunatic, you got thrown in the asylum.
01:25:20.000And there was no question about, and actually, prior to asylums, you were thrown in prisons.
01:25:25.000And in fact, Benjamin Rush, who, the Founding Father adjacent, I suppose you could say he was basically the doctor of the founding fathers, Philadelphia area, by the way.
01:25:36.000Oh yeah, Philly, that he was one of the first people to start pushing for psychiatric hospitals and saying we shouldn't just lock the lunatic up in jail anymore.
01:25:45.000And one of the first psychiatric hospitals was they had they were keeping lunatics chained in the basement of a public hospital and then opened that up to a psychiatric wing of a hospital.
01:25:57.000So I guess my point being is that if we went back to treating mental illness by first separating them from society rather than giving them a prescription and then putting them back into Gen Pop, we could at least get to a place where we don't have to worry about the, the, you know, liberty being infringed of going and taking away somebody's guns.
01:26:36.000So much of what we see today as society has been streamlined in a way that just like most people can find a way to live in adulthood on their own without, you know, needing necessary assistance because they can take medication and all these things and you can't backtrack society away from that.
01:26:52.000And locking them up is going to prove harder to do now because they'll find a way around it in the DSM.
01:26:59.000I imagine that there's all sorts of way around it.
01:27:01.000They're properly medicated, they've been reintroduced into society, there's no reason for us to lock them up again.
01:27:07.000And we see like these days, there's a stigma against the asylums.
01:27:12.000And not that I'm making the argument, the argument always comes up.
01:27:34.000So this, so we were talking about how Christians are basically under attack by leftists, right?
01:27:39.000What happens when a leftist, and again, this isn't something, this is the argument, I'm not actually for this, right?
01:27:45.000But the argument that you hear is what happens when a far left government gets in control and they start saying, if you believe in God, you're crazy?
01:27:53.000Well, we already have involuntary commitment laws, though.
01:28:01.000And the reason I say that is because a lot, so many of the homeless people that are on the street are on the street because they have a mental illness often mixed with a drug addiction.
01:28:18.000And you can be put on side cold, which is a form of involuntary commitment.
01:28:22.000What I'm talking about is not just like, okay, are they in because I think what you're talking about is, are you an immediate danger?
01:28:28.000But I'm talking about if you're mentally ill with a chronic mental illness.
01:28:33.000I don't think that the state can commit you.
01:28:35.000They can take you off the streets, make you, make sure that you're not a danger to yourself, an immediate danger to yourself or a danger to yourself.
01:28:40.000or danger to the people around you, but they can't hold you, they can't commit you indefinitely, which is what we're, what is kind of on the table here.
01:28:50.000Well, and what I'm, what I'm saying though is that you, you, I mean, I'm arguing for a change to law, obviously.
01:28:55.000And I'm arguing that, I mean, to, you know, and I want, I want to get Dr. Trillian on this as well, because, I mean, this is becoming a public health issue.
01:29:02.000And it's, you know, now you're talking about, and this is, this is a different.
01:29:07.000So, okay, right, you know, I don't want to, you can't violate HIPAA.
01:29:10.000All right, but what, what happens when it becomes a public safety issue?
01:29:15.000Because now here's somebody who's on these HRTs, then what?
01:29:19.000And on cannabis, by the way, then walks over to the gun shop and says, hey, I want to buy some guns.
01:29:25.000And the gun owner doesn't have to ask because none of these systems talk to each other.
01:29:30.000And is writing things like this up and down.
01:29:33.000And I'm sorry, it just seems that there should be a public policy response to all this.
01:29:37.000Yeah, I'm actually fascinated by this.
01:29:40.000I'm sitting back and going, wow, this is great.
01:29:43.000I have to make a video on this sometime, do some research on it.
01:29:45.000I do think it's a, I do, if politics, to the point of, wait, but if we do it this way, if the leftists get into power, then they can, they can start imprisoning Christi Christians like they've done in the Soviet Union and so on.
01:29:58.000I mean, like they were doing the last four years.
01:30:05.000If politics is downstream from culture, then this, this is it.
01:30:09.000I don't know if there's going to be a simple, you know, technical solution to this.
01:30:14.000It looks like it's going to be a cultural solution.
01:30:16.000One of the things I was thinking about is, for example, I forgot who it was, a theologian who pointed out, you know, two hundred years ago, if a person was depressed, they would go to church to pray.
01:30:34.000And there's there's something about being able to buy your happiness.
01:30:39.000There's something about being able, uh, through some kind of fix, uh, to, to resolve whatever tensions and issues you have that seems to be very much at the heart of a modern sense of life.
01:30:55.000Modernity tends to be rooted in technology and technology by its nature is control.
01:31:01.000And so, um, so we tend to look for technological solutions to what are often very spiritual, very deep and very moral problems.
01:31:10.000So this again, kind of goes full circle to what you were saying earlier.
01:31:13.000This is why kind of like, this is why I love the way how Maha and Maga have been kind of hooked up together.
01:31:19.000We can't really save the country until we first, in a sense, and I use this in a thoroughly conservative sense, until we save ourselves, as it were, until we take our spiritual life seriously, our relational lives seriously, our physical lives seriously,
01:31:37.000our financial lives seriously, our professional lives seriously, until we start taking control by the grace of God of our own health.
01:31:57.000Now, if that catches fire, I think there's something to this.
01:32:03.000I think we can then find the political downstream of how we handle this.
01:32:08.000But until we get that full sort of faith family and freedom vibe, absolutely pushing the radical left to the twenty percent in terms of their power, not just in terms of their popularity.
01:32:23.000Until then, yeah, it's a it's a it's a risky thing because when they get into power, they're going to use it in their own.
01:32:29.000Okay, I think if we can use power, we can.
01:32:32.000Before we push back out this, there was a piece that I really wanted to hit today, where which I think speaks to all of this.
01:32:57.000And this was in a letter two years before all of this.
01:33:00.000So back when the Tennessee Christian School, the Nashville shooting took place, there was a letter that was written to Governor Tim Walls asking for extra funding for and pointing out to a lack of security at Christian and religious schools because they were considered non-public schools.
01:33:23.000And so public schools were getting ample security, but these non-public schools were not getting the same level of security.
01:33:32.000So he points out that in the letter there were 72,000 students in independent Catholic, Jewish, Christian and Muslim non-public schools within the state of Minnesota saying our schools are under attack, particularly even at the time Jewish and Muslim schools, but we're writing about the Christian schools as well experience increased levels of threats.
01:34:14.000They knew that there was a lack of security.
01:34:17.000And potentially even this shooter knew that there was a lack of security because what did the shooter say that he was doing was conducting this reconnaissance prior to.
01:34:27.000conducting the attack and noting that there was this lack of security, which presumably these public schools would not have had.
01:34:36.000I mean, another thing that's I think that's I we could take solace in is since the 2020 Summer of Love, gun controls at its lowest level of support it's been like in decades.
01:34:50.000And then, and that's just the aggregate.
01:34:53.000When you break it down between blue states and red states, the any kind of majority, and it's slim, 52, 53 percent, ends up disappearing outright.
01:35:02.00029 states are constitutional carrying.
01:35:54.000Which when you look into the numbers, there's something along the lines of it averages about three hundred murders per year with a semi automatic rifle.
01:36:18.000And then when you take, take just rifles, like I said, it's like handguns.
01:36:25.000And if you ask the average person, they'll say, well, you know, even people that are like against guns, they're like, oh, weapons of war shouldn't be on the street, et cetera.
01:36:34.000But then they say, well, what about handguns?
01:36:36.000Well, I think I should be able to have a handgun in my, in my dresser, in case someone breaks in.
01:36:57.000If you look at the author's name is Abigail Something.
01:37:01.000And it's a sho doctoral dissertation from the University of Berkeley, berserkly, okay.
01:37:08.000And she is a huge advocate for what she just simply calls the gun community.
01:37:13.000And she's a cultural anthropologist who studied the gun community, particularly in California, and she was blown away by how diverse it was.
01:37:21.000She started off being against it and thinking she was dealing with a bunch of rural whites in Shasta County or something like that, these patriot militias and so forth.
01:37:33.000She suddenly realized, wait, there's LGBT, there's black people are one of the biggest supporters of gun rights and women in particular and all of a sudden she realized this is one of the most diverse widespread coalitions in the country Vermont you know where I'm from Delaware Delaware's as blue of a state as you can get I can go into any gun shop give them my give them my my license and in 15 minutes I'm out of there with a glock no problem whatsoever
01:38:03.000I've done it so the point is is that more and more I think the left is doing what they can sort of galvanize what's left of just a shattered.
01:38:19.000coalition, because remember the left coalition became Trump's coalition.
01:38:22.000The working class became, this is a Newsweek article back in May, the white working class in 2016, then the nonwhite working class in 2024.
01:38:34.000The Obama coalition is now the Trump coalition, the Democrats don't have a coalition.
01:38:39.000No, they've hollowed, they've really like, they've done so much hollowing out of their support.
01:38:44.000They really have a lower class or poor, basically poor people that are on some kind of government assistance that are reliably Democratic, and then there are the elites.
01:39:42.000That's part of the reason why the left is actually going after the middle class and tries to do what it can to erode them and put as many people into the poor or the rich.
01:39:56.000Scott Greer had a great bifurcation of the race in the Democrat primary in New York talking about the Zora Mamdani.
01:40:07.000And so he was saying the yuppies weren't really for Mamdani.
01:40:11.000They were kind of split between Cuomo and Adams, the current mayor.
01:40:16.000And so the yuppies, of course, what does that stand for young urban professionals, right?
01:40:20.000And so he said, but what was what, um, what you saw going for Momdani was actually the young urban creatives or the term that he came up with, and it's so good, the yuckies, the yuckies.
01:41:42.000I think it's just, I think it's just disaffected leftists because this is sort of an example of, you know, when prophecy fails.
01:41:48.000So the cognitive dissonance kicks in and they have to do something to, you know, to claim that it was the other because again, in their philosophy, it is Trump and Trump supporters that are destroying the country.
01:42:01.000So they have to find a way to dissociate them from this, which again, even Jacob Fry, in he, that's the cognitive dissonance that's driv so physically upset and uncomfortable about what's going on, he has to push it off into another vector.
01:44:03.000A grand jury refused to indict the D.C. sandwich thrower.
01:44:07.000So we're now seeing jury nullification from the grand jury side, which is going to be a huge problem for a lot of these cases in Washington, D.C., because that D.C. jury pool, even for the grand jury.
01:44:18.000And by the way, you can bring charges without going to a grand jury.
01:44:22.000So you're just you're just going to have to start doing this.
01:45:38.000And look, when you're in one of these schools and or if you have kids that go to one of these schools, like I do, by the way, my kids go to a Catholic school.
01:45:49.000And as I was reporting the story today, I in the back of my head, I'm thinking, my son is in a Catholic school right now.
01:45:55.000And, you know, it's just something we all have to think about.
01:45:58.000We have to think about it on a regular basis.
01:46:04.000Fortunately, I am, as Phil mentions, someone who also regularly practices my perishable skill, and I am a firm defender and exerciser of the Second Amendment and my rights.
01:46:16.000So it's a perishable skill you have to like keep.
01:46:54.000That's that's actually under like six rounds on target in two seconds.
01:46:59.000Get the gun out and fire from but starting from when he says starting concealed.
01:47:04.000So it's your yo I don't know where your holster is but somewhere you know it's a concealed holster.
01:47:09.000So the idea being what he's talking about this is some hey someone's coming up and mugging so Iris told you that story yesterday at the cabinet meeting and she told me that story before from NTD where she was she was mugged and pistol whipped on the street in DC a couple of years ago.
01:47:27.000You know, this is a situation where, hey, you know, if someone's putting a gun in your face, you gotta get yours out real fast because that someone else's gun might already be out.
01:47:35.000I tagged you on X in a video of one so I could see.
01:48:03.000The way I've always explained it is this, that for people who don't, you know, people, there's this mystique around firearms, which which I think the basic training and familiarization training and it sounds, Phil, it sounds like you need to take Libby out to the range, man.
01:53:31.000So godlessness does not work at scale.
01:53:33.000And in a society where you have people that are constantly searching for meaning, and this is what Nietzsche talked about with nihilism, that when you kill God, people will try to fill that void with anything and it will lead to the destruction of society.
01:53:50.000That is what we are currently living through, which Nietzsche of course predicted 150 years ago.
01:53:56.000And so it just doesn't, yeah, maybe for some people, but it doesn't scale.
01:55:44.000We are the ones that need to be removed from the equation so that their final beautiful equal justice, equal equity, social justice society can flourish.
01:55:57.000So remember, communism is always only just a couple of mass killings away from finally working.
01:56:35.000This, oh, I've heard of this actually.
01:56:36.000So jumped up pleb, my friend's company, Praleo Security was created specifically to place armed force, place armed former military guards at Christian schools.
01:58:43.000But yeah, I wrote it really to answer the question.
01:58:46.000I was asked oftentimes, Trump is always bringing up the golden age, the golden age.
01:58:51.000what is this golden age he's talking about?
01:58:53.000And so I sat down and I wrote an entire book on what exactly this golden age is.
01:58:59.000And I basically make the argument it's the era of restorationist politics, what scholars call it.
01:59:05.000It's actually happening all over the world.
01:59:07.000But here in the United States, it's happening in the form of MAGA.
01:59:11.000And what we're seeing is we're seeing the collapse of globalism that is ushering in at the same time one of the greatest religious renewals we've ever seen.
01:59:21.000That's a direct quote from Rodney Stark, the late sociologist at Baylor University.
01:59:27.000That religious renewal is more or less resolving the The reproduction crisis, demographic crisis that we're facing because, like we talked about earlier, conservative Christians here in the United States, conservative religious in general, are having more children than ever, while secular liberals have largely stopped having kids.
01:59:48.000And then thirdly, we're also seeing the rise of what's called the network society.
01:59:53.000Jack and I have actually talked about that in a conference together where the rise of the Internet and cyberspace are increasingly liberating more and more populations from the old liberal structures, very similar to the way email and texting bypass the old.
02:00:14.000It's just that people don't really use it that much anymore because we don't have to.
02:00:18.000We have a new era, a new world that's rising.
02:00:21.000So this resurgence of faith, this resurgence of family and this resurgence of freedom is combining together to create this golden age like never before.
02:00:31.000So America awakens the collapse of globalism and the return to faith, family and freedom.
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