Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump Admin Accidentally LEAKED War Plans To Liberal Journalist, But It May Be HOAX | Timcast IRL

00:00:34.000 Well, this story is a doozy.

00:00:36.000 The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war plans, claims Jeffrey Goldberg.

00:00:42.000 U.S. national security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen.

00:00:46.000 Now, that may be.

00:00:48.000 That may be.

00:00:48.000 And if it is, talk about embarrassing.

00:00:51.000 You've got a guy here.

00:00:54.000 Is this rolling?

00:00:56.000 Seems like there's a...

00:00:57.000 There we go.

00:00:58.000 Okay, it's rolling.

00:00:58.000 That was weird.

00:00:59.000 We have a weird...

00:01:00.000 There's a weird delay.

00:01:01.000 No, that was extended.

00:01:02.000 But anyway, I digress.

00:01:03.000 This story may be, on its face, embarrassing for the Trump administration in that they accidentally created a group chat to discuss bombing Yemen and included a liberal Russia, Russia, Russia journalist.

00:01:16.000 Then there's the other story, and that's they intentionally created the group chat with a script that took two days to write, and they wanted him to espouse their narrative to the world. 0.99

00:01:30.000 Look, I don't know exactly, but I think there's a strong possibility that these journalists are dumb as a box of rocks.

00:01:36.000 And the Trump administration, should they have actually included him, did it intentionally so that he would report their words behind the scenes, which I got to be honest, makes him look kind of good. 0.96

00:01:48.000 J.D. Vance saying, we can't bomb Yemen.

00:01:50.000 This goes against Trump's message.

00:01:52.000 And then Hegseth says, but we're the only ones in the world who can put a stop to this.

00:01:58.000 And then there's J.D. Vance saying, I get it.

00:02:01.000 You're right.

00:02:01.000 But I really want to keep bailing out Europe.

00:02:03.000 U.S. trade doesn't even go through here. 0.98

00:02:05.000 It really sounds like a PR message distilled through a moron who thinks he got leaked information. 0.92

00:02:13.000 So the American people think they're getting a genuine behind the scenes look at the difficult decision to bomb Yemen. 0.98

00:02:19.000 Let's be real.

00:02:20.000 When they decided to have a conversation about bombing Yemen, they didn't do it over signal.

00:02:25.000 They met at the Pentagon.

00:02:26.000 They're all in D.C. as it is. 0.98

00:02:28.000 What a ridiculous story. 0.98

00:02:29.000 But maybe. 1.00

00:02:30.000 Maybe I'm crazy and everybody else is crazy.

00:02:32.000 So we'll talk about that.

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00:07:22.000 Here's a story from the Atlantic, my friends.

00:07:24.000 The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war plans.

00:07:27.000 So says Jeffrey Goldberg.

00:07:30.000 What a story indeed.

00:07:31.000 They say, the world found out shortly before 2 p.m. Eastern time on March 15th the U.S. was bombing Houthi targets in Yemen.

00:07:38.000 I, however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming.

00:07:43.000 The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegseth, Secretary of Defense, had texted me the war plan at 1144 a.m.

00:07:48.000 The plan included precise information about weapons, packages, targets, and timing.

00:07:53.000 Now, of course, Pete Hegseth says, yeah, nah.

00:07:57.000 He stunningly denies that war plans were leaked to a highly discredited journalist who dropped a bombshell report.

00:08:03.000 I just, I feel like this is fake.

00:08:06.000 Let me show you why first.

00:08:07.000 The story technically begins shortly after the Hamas invasion of southern Gaza.

00:08:11.000 Okay, blah, blah, blah.

00:08:12.000 On Tuesday, March 11th, I received a connection request for a signal from a user identified as Michael Waltz.

00:08:17.000 Signal is an open source encrypted messaging service popular with journalists, we understand.

00:08:21.000 I assume that the Michael Waltz in question was Trump's national security advisor.

00:08:24.000 I did not assume, however, the request is from the actual Michael Waltz.

00:08:28.000 I met him in the past, and though I didn't find it particularly strange that he might be reaching out to me, I did think it's somewhat unusual given the Trump admin's contentious relationship with journalists.

00:08:36.000 I accepted the request.

00:08:37.000 Two days later, Thursday, 4.28 p.m., I received a notice that I was to be included in a signal chat group called Houthi PC Small Group.

00:08:46.000 Message to the group from Michael Waltra as follows.

00:08:49.000 Team establishing a principals group for coordination on Houthis, particularly for the next 72 hours.

00:08:54.000 My deputy Alex Wong is pulling together a Tiger team at deputies agency chief of staff level, following up from the meeting in the sit room this morning for action items, and I will be sending that out later this evening.

00:09:05.000 The message included, please provide the best staff POC from your team for us to coordinate over the next couple of days in the weekend.

00:09:12.000 The term Principles Committee generally refers to the group of the senior most national security officials, including the Secretary of Defense, State, and the Treasury, as well as the Director of the CIA.

00:09:20.000 Should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway, I have never been invited to the White House Principles Committee meeting, and that many of the years of my reporting on national security matters, I had never heard of one being convened over a commercial messaging app.

00:09:29.000 At this point, guy, two hours before the attack, And being texted the stuff that did not occur to you, that it's fake?

00:09:38.000 I guess he says it did, but he still publishes the story, believing it to be real.

00:09:44.000 Surprised he didn't warn Yemen. 0.88

00:09:45.000 So blah, blah, blah.

00:09:46.000 Let's get to the actual messages.

00:09:48.000 March 14th, Michael Waltz text the group.

00:09:50.000 Team, you should have a statement of conclusions with taskings per the president's guidance this morning in your high side inboxes.

00:09:56.000 State of DOD, blah, blah, blah.

00:09:58.000 At this point, a fascinating poly discussion commenced.

00:10:00.000 The account labeled JD Vance said, Team, I am out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan, but I think we are making a mistake.

00:10:07.000 The Vance account goes on to state, 3% of U.S. trade runs through the Suez.

00:10:11.000 40% of European trade does.

00:10:13.000 There is a real risk the public doesn't understand this or why it's necessary.

00:10:17.000 The strongest reason to do this is, as POTUS said, to send a message.

00:10:22.000 The van scout then goes on to make a noteworthy statement, considering that the vice president has not deviated publicly from Trump's position.

00:10:27.000 I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now.

00:10:32.000 There's a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices.

00:10:35.000 I'm willing to support the consensus of the team and keep those concerns to myself, but there's a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc.

00:10:45.000 A person identified as Joe Kent wrote, there's nothing time-sensitive driving the timeline.

00:10:50.000 We'll have the exact same options in a month.

00:10:53.000 Now it goes on.

00:10:54.000 I'm not going to keep reading this.

00:10:56.000 Pete Hegseth says, VP, I understand your concerns and fully support you raising with POTUS important considerations, most of which are tough to know how they play out.

00:11:04.000 I think the messaging is going to be tough no matter what.

00:11:06.000 Nobody knows who the Houthis are, which is why we would need to stay focused on Biden failed and Iran funded.

00:11:13.000 He goes on to say more and more about this.

00:11:15.000 So they're going to mention that a spokesperson says that it appears to be a legitimate conversation, right?

00:11:23.000 All right, let me just give you my quick assessment before we jump into the conversation.

00:11:25.000 Otherwise, I'm going to read for 20 years all of these messages.

00:11:28.000 Here you have the vice president, seemingly, talking with the Department of Defense, seemingly, saying, what do we do?

00:11:35.000 Nobody knows who the Houthis are.

00:11:37.000 How do we inform the public as to who they are and why they're so bad?

00:11:41.000 And that this really does matter to America.

00:11:44.000 Are you kidding me? 0.99

00:11:46.000 Well, I would include a journalist in the text message and then create scripted crap to be like, the Houthis are bad because the moron's going to be like, whoa, they texted me. 0.99

00:11:58.000 Guys, look, the Houthis. 0.99

00:12:00.000 So Donald Trump took a hit on the bombing of Yemen.

00:12:02.000 People were sharing the interview I did with Trump where he said, you don't need to do this.

00:12:06.000 A lot of people said it was inconsistent.

00:12:08.000 And then all of a sudden.

00:12:10.000 This journalist is like, look at this perfect script of a J.D. Vance saying, I don't think it's a good idea.

00:12:15.000 And Hegseth saying, you might be right, but we need to send a message.

00:12:18.000 The president thinks it's the right thing to do.

00:12:20.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:12:21.000 Do you guys think this was an accident?

00:12:23.000 It's an accident on purpose.

00:12:24.000 Right. They sent it.

00:12:26.000 He took the bait.

00:12:27.000 He ran with it.

00:12:28.000 Maybe it was.

00:12:29.000 I don't know.

00:12:30.000 I don't have any sense as to whether or not it is or isn't an accident.

00:12:34.000 The idea you laid out is completely plausible.

00:12:38.000 It's also completely plausible that, you know, someone had that dude's name in his phone and they put by the initials and they put the wrong initials in.

00:12:48.000 That's plausible as well.

00:12:49.000 Maybe. But he literally says they don't get...

00:12:52.000 The journalist says they don't do these meetings over commercial phone apps.

00:12:56.000 Like I said, I...

00:12:57.000 I have no sense as to whether or not it does. 0.98

00:13:00.000 Maybe they, you know, it could, I completely think that people make dumb mistakes. 0.99

00:13:04.000 So it could be that they made a dumb mistake. 0.99

00:13:06.000 Especially in government. 0.54

00:13:06.000 But until I see what was ostensibly top secret information that was sent, until you actually show me that, this is a nothing burger. 0.54

00:13:15.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:13:15.000 It's a PR stunt.

00:13:16.000 Look at this.

00:13:17.000 Look at this message.

00:13:18.000 It's like, as I heard it, the president was clear, green light, but we soon make it clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return.

00:13:23.000 We also need to figure out how to enforce such a requirement.

00:13:26.000 E.g., if Europe doesn't renumerate, then what?

00:13:28.000 If the U.S. successfully restores freedom of navigation at great cost, there needs to be some further economic gain extracted in return.

00:13:34.000 Everybody listening, I'm going to go ahead and say I believe strongly that this was intended to trick the journalist into publishing this message.

00:13:42.000 The messages are scripted.

00:13:44.000 The DOD does not greenlight Two hours in advance strikes on a foreign country like this.

00:13:52.000 I mean, maybe.

00:13:53.000 Maybe I'm crazy.

00:13:54.000 But I'm willing to bet that considering the meetings I've been in and how slow everything is, bro, I can't install chicken wire in an hour.

00:14:05.000 I can't install chicken wire in one hour.

00:14:08.000 If I want chicken wire put up...

00:14:09.000 I've got to make, like, three phone calls and then complain why it's not getting done.

00:14:13.000 And you think the government is just like, let's have a debate real quick over whether or not I'm going to press the button and fire the missiles from our destroyers off the coast of Yemen.

00:14:23.000 DoD Rabbit Response has a clip of Hegseth on Fox News saying that you're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist.

00:14:32.000 So, I mean, look, they're denying that it's true.

00:14:39.000 One more thing.

00:14:41.000 What if some morbidly obese guy covered in Cheeto dust was sitting in his living room watching Fox News, eating Flamin' Hots, because they're awesome, by the way, and then decided to text this guy and hoax him, and he believed it.

00:14:57.000 Someone just hoaxed Kanye.

00:15:00.000 Thinking it was Joe Rogan.

00:15:01.000 And he tweeted about it.

00:15:02.000 And Joe Rogan was like, that's not me.

00:15:04.000 Whoa! So these things, those do happen.

00:15:07.000 That was last week or two.

00:15:08.000 So there's a few different theories on this.

00:15:10.000 Tim, will you go to the part of the story where the National Security Council responds?

00:15:16.000 This one, I think, gives your theory a lot of credibility.

00:15:19.000 If you are in this position, you deny, right?

00:15:22.000 You just deny, deny, or you don't respond for comment.

00:15:25.000 You don't, like...

00:15:26.000 Peg Seth is now denying in front of the media.

00:15:28.000 But here's what this spokesperson says.

00:15:30.000 This appears to be an authentic message chain, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain.

00:15:36.000 The threat is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials.

00:15:41.000 The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to troops or national security.

00:15:47.000 Hilarious to me.

00:15:48.000 I think there's a few different theories.

00:15:50.000 So one is like...

00:15:50.000 Just complete BS.

00:15:52.000 The guy eating Cheetos on the couch has duped this journalist with his buddies.

00:15:56.000 One would be super metal if that was the case.

00:16:00.000 The second theory is that this is some sort of concocted, not real, either AI or staffers pretending to have a high-level policy conversation with this journalist in a chat to...

00:16:13.000 Promulgate that narrative.

00:16:14.000 I think it's scripted.

00:16:17.000 Yeah, or scripted.

00:16:17.000 And then the third one is that it's real.

00:16:20.000 You mentioned, if you don't show me the goods, I'm not going to believe it.

00:16:24.000 So this is about a military operation that has already happened.

00:16:28.000 And so if that is the case, lawyers...

00:16:31.000 The Atlantic has an army of lawyers to make sure that they can continue to destroy regular American people's lives on a regular basis and win in the courts.

00:16:41.000 They should be able to have some sort of review to redact or include important information, but the screenshots that they include are just of this, what did they say?

00:16:52.000 Deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials.

00:16:55.000 They could have had some sort of legal redaction, right?

00:16:58.000 He said that they were waiting, or he didn't, they didn't, you know, produce this, they didn't release this until after the attack or whatever it happened, right?

00:17:07.000 So then why is there?

00:17:09.000 No information coming out.

00:17:10.000 Exactly. Right.

00:17:10.000 There should be some sort of redactions available to show that you actually had some evidence of prior knowledge of a strike.

00:17:17.000 It happened, yeah.

00:17:17.000 Why are they having the debate literally two hours before bombing Yemen?

00:17:22.000 Yeah. Wouldn't they have met in D.C. and then actually confirmed their plans in person?

00:17:31.000 This makes literally no sense.

00:17:33.000 Why is the vice president texting the secretary of defense his opinion on a strike they're prepared to carry out in a couple of hours?

00:17:40.000 Yeah. Unless their real consideration was Trump was the anti-war president who said we can't bomb these countries and now we're planning on doing it.

00:17:49.000 How do we get this narrative out there?

00:17:51.000 How about, like, if we release a statement, no one's going to buy it.

00:17:54.000 But it's that meme where the Babylon Bee wrote that story.

00:18:00.000 Ingenious move, Donald Trump comes out in support of impeachment, forcing Democrats to oppose.

00:18:06.000 Whoops, we've accidentally revealed our true plans.

00:18:09.000 And it was a deep and thoughtful conversation about the collateral damage potentials, threats to our troops, the purpose behind the strike, and who the Houthis are.

00:18:18.000 And now the American people's heard it all.

00:18:20.000 Great. And all these liberals are laughing, being like, they're so dumb. 1.00

00:18:24.000 It's like they don't care. 1.00

00:18:26.000 Their enemies, their perceived enemies, look at them as incompetent through this.

00:18:30.000 They just wanted the story out.

00:18:31.000 If it is the case that it was planted in this journalism.

00:18:34.000 Well, it could be a coalition.

00:18:35.000 So, like, I think one area where President Trump and his administration has received a lot of pressure is on the more restraint-oriented side of the right so far with people like Mike Waltz being national security advisor.

00:18:49.000 And so they go through with strikes on Houthis, and that has been a major issue for the restraint-oriented right.

00:18:56.000 Like, why are we involved in Yemen at all?

00:18:58.000 And so if you want to shore up that side of your coalition, you put something out there like—you could put something out there like this that says, Hey, that Vice President J.D.

00:19:10.000 Vance, who the restraint community liked a lot, is advocating behind the scenes for the restraint position, and that is being received kindly by people like— John Ratcliffe by people like, oh, yeah, and Joe Kent's inclusion, that was interesting, too.

00:19:27.000 Joe Kent was a big figure in this community when he didn't win his congressional runs.

00:19:32.000 That was a bummer.

00:19:33.000 And to see him get picked for the administration, that was a big deal for some people.

00:19:37.000 So, you know, J.D.

00:19:40.000 in there, Joe Kent in there in this decision-making process, even when everyone seems kind of leagues higher than his administration position, and Hegseth, who has Some credibility problems with the restraint community coming in and saying, I totally get where you're coming from, JD.

00:19:57.000 That could be the play, right?

00:19:59.000 It's a coalition play for the own administration because there was a New York Times piece, maybe it was a week ago, about how people inside the administration are apparently calling the National Security Council the neoconservative security council.

00:20:13.000 I don't know.

00:20:14.000 Could be a motive.

00:20:15.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:20:16.000 I'm not saying anything definitive, but that could be a motive.

00:20:18.000 They didn't give us strong messaging on the strikes against the Houthis in Yemen, and there was a backlash against it with a lot of people on the right saying bad.

00:20:24.000 Now, all of a sudden, this guy leaks a message where you look at it and you're like, oh, I understand their justification.

00:20:30.000 They're concerned about trade through Europe.

00:20:33.000 They don't want to bail Europe out.

00:20:34.000 They want to send a message to the Houthis. 0.80

00:20:35.000 The Houthis are this, you know, terroristic group that are striking these ships.

00:20:40.000 Now... They've created a story where regular people will be exposed to it, and it's headline news everywhere.

00:20:44.000 Every major outlet is talking about this.

00:20:46.000 And like what Bradley's saying, the first things I saw in this story, Brooke, was people saying, Vance is the most American first there.

00:20:52.000 It's part of the PR quality to it.

00:20:55.000 I think about Donald Trump being a master manipulator of the media.

00:20:58.000 Famously, in his 2016 campaign run, he got $5 billion worth of free press by gaming the media into constantly talking about him.

00:21:06.000 And they made money from it, too, so it was win-win.

00:21:08.000 But that's how Trump dominated the airwaves with a minimal budget compared to the rest of these candidates.

00:21:12.000 I don't see it as any different, and I don't know why Trump wouldn't be using that expertise now and why this wouldn't be the case.

00:21:18.000 But you know what? 1.00

00:21:18.000 Hey, there's always a possibility it was an accident, and they're bumbling morons. 1.00

00:21:22.000 Speaking of influence, though, let's jump to this next story. 0.99

00:21:26.000 From Li Fang, the sugary soda industry's covert influencer campaign falls apart.

00:21:32.000 My friends, grifters are about, and it's going to get weird.

00:21:37.000 So, the long story short of this is that a handful of conservative influencers appear to have been paid to promote sugary beverages for welfare recipients.

00:21:49.000 What a ridiculously weird thing to get paid to promote.

00:21:52.000 But what you end up learning as you dig through the story is that there is a conservative leaning.

00:21:57.000 It's a company that has reportedly been associated with large conservative influencer spheres of influence.

00:22:03.000 Weird way to say it.

00:22:04.000 But they pay money.

00:22:06.000 For prominent individuals on X and other platforms to promote specific products.

00:22:11.000 Now, I got no problem if you're promoting a TV show.

00:22:13.000 If for some reason you decided just today was the time to come and claim that Severance was a good show, maybe someone paid you.

00:22:19.000 I got no beef with that.

00:22:21.000 Promote your shows you like.

00:22:22.000 I don't care if you're getting paid.

00:22:22.000 It's a TV show.

00:22:24.000 Ads for Soda exists all the time.

00:22:25.000 We do ads.

00:22:26.000 We did an ad for this show.

00:22:27.000 But when you're espousing political messages, now we got ourselves a problem because you're getting paid to be political.

00:22:33.000 The bigger picture is, regardless of whether you're being paid to promote movies or video games or otherwise, you are legally required to disclose this.

00:22:41.000 This is where the story gets crazy.

00:22:43.000 Here's a story from Li Feng.

00:22:45.000 Conservative social media influencers have been caught posting coordinated messages opposing proposed nutritional guidelines for SNAP benefits.

00:22:51.000 That's welfare.

00:22:52.000 Food stamps.

00:22:54.000 After receiving payments from public relations firms, the campaign emerged as HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy explores limitations on SNAP benefits for sugary beverages.

00:23:03.000 During fiscal year 2021, the program dispersed over 121 billion thousand benefits, with a significant portion spent on ultra sugary drinks that provide minimal nutritional benefits.

00:23:14.000 Take a look at this.

00:23:16.000 We've got Clown World.

00:23:18.000 The government wants to block soda purchases for Americans on Snap.

00:23:20.000 Remember when NYC tried this and it completely backfired?

00:23:22.000 President Trump proudly had a Diet Coke button in the Oval Office. 0.84

00:23:24.000 This is ridiculous government overage. 0.70

00:23:26.000 Let people decide for themselves. 0.94

00:23:27.000 Eric Daugherty.

00:23:28.000 We cannot allow Make America Healthy Again messaging to be used to force Americans into not buying certain things.

00:23:33.000 Some officials in DC are working on trying to prevent Americans on Snap from using those benefits to purchase any soda.

00:23:37.000 Remember when New York City Democrats tried to prevent?

00:23:40.000 Yep. Remember when Trump had a Diet Coke button?

00:23:42.000 We get it.

00:23:42.000 Let people decide for themselves.

00:23:43.000 Ian Miles Chong.

00:23:45.000 You get the idea.

00:23:46.000 The same thing.

00:23:47.000 They're all posting basically the same message.

00:23:51.000 Now, this is the crazy thing.

00:23:53.000 This basically exposes.

00:23:55.000 Let me see.

00:23:55.000 Do I have the...

00:23:56.000 Where is that silly website? 0.50

00:23:58.000 Let me pull. 0.73

00:23:59.000 I thought I had it pulled up.

00:24:00.000 It's a website.

00:24:01.000 No, I must have closed it.

00:24:03.000 Let's see.

00:24:03.000 Here we go.

00:24:05.000 Influencible. This is the website that says unlock the power of influence.

00:24:09.000 We have this story from Texas Tribune going back to 2023.

00:24:12.000 And it references...

00:24:14.000 In late June, about a dozen conservative Gen Z influencers converged on Fort Worth for a few days of right-wing networking.

00:24:21.000 They go on to mention the event was sponsored by a fledgling company, Influensible LLC, that recruits young conservative social media figures to promote political campaigns and films without disclosing their business relationship.

00:24:32.000 That's illegal, by the way.

00:24:34.000 On its website, the company touts itself as the world's largest network of digital activists and offers clients the power to cultivate a community of influencers to leverage their credibility.

00:24:42.000 So here we have it.

00:24:43.000 Let's see what happens when I go for influencers.

00:24:46.000 Let's sign up.

00:24:47.000 Get paid for being yourself.

00:24:49.000 I'd like to get paid for being myself.

00:24:51.000 Wait, what happened?

00:24:52.000 Oops. We're sorry.

00:24:54.000 The form is no longer here.

00:24:56.000 Gee, did maybe something happen recently where they started removing their influencer sign-up page?

00:25:02.000 So we did get a response from Chad Prather who says, I'm a comedian.

00:25:05.000 I'm a conservative.

00:25:05.000 I'm a man that makes mistakes.

00:25:06.000 I love the values that I share with many of you.

00:25:08.000 I'm often asked to share things.

00:25:09.000 He says that he was not, no, I didn't take a payment for sharing it.

00:25:13.000 I've had a large following for years, etc. 0.92

00:25:17.000 Eric Daugherty says, that was dumb of me, massive act on my face.

00:25:20.000 In all seriousness, it won't happen again. 0.86

00:25:22.000 I don't think it matters.

00:25:23.000 We got ourselves here a conundrum, boys.

00:25:26.000 If we're looking at...

00:25:28.000 What I describe as Donald Trump in a wartime presidency.

00:25:31.000 They tried to put him in prison.

00:25:32.000 They arrested his lawyers.

00:25:34.000 There were two assassination attempts.

00:25:35.000 This is some degree of conflict.

00:25:37.000 There is warfare afoot.

00:25:38.000 We are not in a civil war.

00:25:40.000 I'm not saying that.

00:25:40.000 But Donald Trump needs to go after these corrupt individuals.

00:25:44.000 They need to be indicted.

00:25:45.000 They need to be arrested.

00:25:47.000 Where are we at on this one?

00:25:49.000 Because I'm conflicted.

00:25:50.000 As I often am.

00:25:52.000 I find this scummy.

00:25:54.000 Promoting... Sugary beverages to welfare recipients?

00:25:57.000 That's what you're doing?

00:25:58.000 You're not even promoting Vote MAGA.

00:26:00.000 You're saying, no, mahabad, everyone go buy sodas.

00:26:03.000 At the same time, this conservative influence network that pays people to post, this coordinated messaging is a counter to what Democrats have already been doing for decades.

00:26:13.000 And if we don't counter their machine, we lose.

00:26:17.000 I get that.

00:26:17.000 I don't like when the left does it, and I also don't like when the right does it.

00:26:20.000 It's just gross to me.

00:26:22.000 These guys selling soda?

00:26:24.000 Reminded me of Colbert dancing with vaccines on late night TV.

00:26:27.000 There's just something gross to it.

00:26:29.000 I agree.

00:26:29.000 Do you remember like a week ago?

00:26:32.000 I know we're in a time warp.

00:26:33.000 When Cory Booker and all of those Democrats put out that same exact video with the same exact script on Trump shutting down the government or something like that.

00:26:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:45.000 That one.

00:26:47.000 I'm pretty sure a lot of these same folks made fun of that.

00:26:51.000 Only to fall into that exact same scheme a week later.

00:26:55.000 I'm all for high levels of potentially even paid coordination on the right in order to make sure that conservatives win the day, right?

00:27:05.000 The difference between right and left is that the left actually gets all their money from USAID on this stuff.

00:27:10.000 Used to.

00:27:11.000 Yeah, used to.

00:27:13.000 And so I want to see that level of coordination.

00:27:15.000 What I don't want to see is a level of coordination that brings people into the tent that shouldn't be there.

00:27:21.000 Namely, these massive food corporations, these massive oligopolies that have no interest at all in advancing the America First agenda.

00:27:32.000 They shouldn't be in the camp.

00:27:34.000 I'm totally fine with...

00:27:36.000 Paying people to engage with the public on issues that actually move the ball forward from MAGA.

00:27:41.000 I don't think this issue moves the ball forward from MAGA.

00:27:43.000 It's just once you know someone's for sale, how do you trust anything that ever comes out of their mouth again?

00:27:46.000 These individuals who are...

00:27:49.000 You've got, for example, Ian Miles Chong.

00:27:53.000 You've got Eric Daugherty.

00:27:54.000 You've got Clown World.

00:27:55.000 You've got Chad Prather.

00:27:56.000 And they're not the only ones.

00:27:57.000 They're just the ones that are getting dragged on this the most.

00:28:02.000 These are people, guys, with all due respect, I know some people have apologized.

00:28:06.000 To some degree, you know, Chad said, he said, I didn't get paid for this.

00:28:10.000 So if that's true that he didn't get paid for this, then fine.

00:28:15.000 I actually don't see him in the list of these things, so I'm wondering what he posted specifically.

00:28:18.000 But Eric Daugherty saying that was dumb of me.

00:28:20.000 You guys were posting ads without disclosing they were paid ads.

00:28:26.000 That's illegal, right?

00:28:27.000 So this goes back to 2016.

00:28:28.000 The Kardashians got in trouble.

00:28:30.000 The FTC will go after you.

00:28:32.000 They say that a watchdog group found over 100 posts from the Kardashians that were not marked as paid advertising.

00:28:38.000 When we do videos on YouTube, we're required to select a box saying this video includes paid promotion.

00:28:46.000 I said this earlier.

00:28:48.000 I don't sell direct tweets, but we do tweet things that we do take sponsorships for.

00:28:54.000 So we've done events.

00:28:56.000 We've had the sponsors say, we'll sponsor your event, but we want you to tweet about it.

00:28:59.000 And I'll say, okay.

00:28:59.000 And then we'll put powered by or sponsored by.

00:29:01.000 I like to use sponsored by.

00:29:03.000 Or we'll outright put hashtag ad in it.

00:29:06.000 You're legally required to do so.

00:29:07.000 I've even deleted posts when they were improperly posted.

00:29:10.000 We can't do that.

00:29:12.000 Sponsorships are totally fine.

00:29:13.000 The problem is they're not disclosing it.

00:29:15.000 So how many other posts do they have?

00:29:18.000 How many other posts, guys?

00:29:20.000 You're saying, oops, my bad.

00:29:21.000 Yeah, how many of your tweets, your ex-posts, are paid for that you didn't disclose?

00:29:27.000 Look, the challenge here is, will the Trump administration actually pressure the FTC to go after conservative influencers who like Donald Trump?

00:29:35.000 Probably not.

00:29:36.000 Right? That's the reality of it.

00:29:38.000 I think everyone, if you do something bad like this, you should go after it.

00:29:41.000 I think these people should go and delete every single paid promo tweet they have.

00:29:46.000 Not even, yes, but also tell us which ones they are.

00:29:49.000 Right. Be super open about it.

00:29:51.000 You know, this is all the ones I've done.

00:29:53.000 I'm deleting them now.

00:29:54.000 And we can move on from there.

00:29:55.000 I can't follow these people.

00:29:56.000 Oh, no, I don't follow any of these people.

00:29:58.000 Maybe Chad is the only one I follow.

00:29:59.000 Their political opinions are for sale.

00:30:01.000 You deal with this way more than I do, of course.

00:30:05.000 Are there different rules of the road for political opinions versus products?

00:30:11.000 Because I think the Soda thing...

00:30:14.000 It's substantially more highly regulated, and you start getting into very serious electioneering stuff.

00:30:20.000 So, for instance, when you want to buy ads on any platform, they have specific restrictions on social and political influence versus products.

00:30:32.000 So Instagram's a good example.

00:30:34.000 Let me see what I got going on over on the old Instagram here.

00:30:36.000 Oh, boy.

00:30:37.000 So we do marketing, same as anybody else.

00:30:39.000 And on Instagram, here's a good example.

00:30:42.000 I have a video that...

00:30:45.000 Let's see if I can find one.

00:30:48.000 Actually, I'll just put it this way.

00:30:50.000 I would say 99% of the videos I post cannot be promoted on Instagram.

00:30:57.000 Anything pertaining to a social issue of political consequence will be rejected outright.

00:31:02.000 So the few promos that I've done on Instagram, the one that I can pull up is the pogo stick over the Cybertruck.

00:31:11.000 We did a boost on that one.

00:31:14.000 And so the visible views you can see are separate from the views you get from advertising.

00:31:18.000 On Instagram, if you do a promotion, it will not publicly display any of the views you get from the promotion.

00:31:24.000 And if you do a pogo stick over a Cybertruck, you deserve to have... 1.00

00:31:27.000 Front flip.

00:31:27.000 Front flip?

00:31:28.000 Front flip.

00:31:29.000 Pogo stick front flip.

00:31:30.000 You have to show me this.

00:31:32.000 I got 547,734 views on it.

00:31:35.000 And then I ran it as an ad because it was doing so well and got an additional 179,773.

00:31:42.000 That's the kind of stuff that I can promote.

00:31:45.000 It's a pogo stick.

00:31:46.000 Every time I try to promote my Instagram, anything at all, it gets rejected as a political ad.

00:31:53.000 YouTube is the same.

00:31:54.000 There are heavy restrictions on political advertising.

00:31:58.000 So I think the reason they don't disclose it is because they're bordering on very serious, like...

00:32:04.000 Ethical dilemmas in what they're allowed to spend and how they're allowed to do it. 0.99

00:32:08.000 I can't say I know for sure because a lot of these are generic, but it gets called into question when they're not advocating for a politician.

00:32:18.000 They're not advocating for a specific bill or anything.

00:32:21.000 It's like any other commercial you'd see on TV where they're like, oppose the pill ban.

00:32:27.000 Call your member of Congress today.

00:32:29.000 You're allowed to do that.

00:32:30.000 They're paid to be bots.

00:32:32.000 It's like dead internet theory but with real people and paid for ideas. 0.83

00:32:36.000 I think it's scummy.

00:32:38.000 Oh, 100%.

00:32:38.000 I mean, it should be clear when it comes to at least topics like this that are totally flying in the face of all the things that the right has been going on about.

00:32:51.000 First of all, the right doesn't like social programs like Snap generally.

00:32:56.000 Some people will say, okay, we need them.

00:33:00.000 For the most part, you'd think the right would be able to agree, yeah, for things like soda and stuff like that, we should say you can't get that kind of stuff.

00:33:08.000 It should be for necessities, for basics and stuff.

00:33:10.000 And then, so there is the argument, oh, well, you know, the government shouldn't be telling you what to do with your money, which is what the argument that they're making.

00:33:19.000 This is, you know, clearly, that's an error in the premise.

00:33:22.000 With my money, you mean?

00:33:23.000 Exactly, it's an error in the premise.

00:33:24.000 Because it's not their money.

00:33:26.000 So anytime the government gives you anything...

00:33:29.000 Everyone knows there's strings attached, whether it be money to states or money to individuals.

00:33:34.000 There are strings attached for everything.

00:33:36.000 And then, obviously, the fact that it goes after the...

00:33:40.000 It flies in the face of the Maha movement and stuff like that. 0.80

00:33:43.000 It's just all ridiculous, and it was clearly a terrible idea for anyone to do this.

00:33:47.000 And yeah, no one should trust any of the people that are posting those. 0.86

00:33:51.000 Apparently, they were promoting Sound of Freedom, too.

00:33:53.000 Yeah, I saw that.

00:33:54.000 And I like that movie, and so I'm fine with that.

00:33:56.000 The only problem I have is they didn't disclose that it was an ad.

00:33:58.000 Yeah. Bro, like, I don't get it.

00:34:00.000 Who cares?

00:34:02.000 Well, I don't sell tweets, so the only times we've done it is, like I mentioned, someone sponsored IRL for an event or show, and then asked us to tweet out the show link, and I said, I've explicitly told all the sponsors, we will not tweet out anything that's like, buy this product from this company.

00:34:20.000 We will, however, tweet, today's episode is this, sponsored by this company.

00:34:24.000 That's totally fine.

00:34:25.000 But I...

00:34:28.000 I don't know, man.

00:34:29.000 Bad news, man.

00:34:30.000 Political opinions for sale.

00:34:31.000 Well, the thing is, you can't trust these people now.

00:34:34.000 And, unfortunately, these people have such broad reach that it's like, well, okay, now the fact that you have broad reach, now that's a liability.

00:34:45.000 Instead of an asset to the goals that people on the right have, it's like, oh, well...

00:34:51.000 Okay, everyone is going to look at you and be like, well, you can't trust anything they say.

00:34:54.000 And then you're literally discrediting things that could be true that you could say.

00:34:59.000 And you don't even have to...

00:35:00.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:35:00.000 We want to move on here?

00:35:01.000 Yeah, let's jump to this next story.

00:35:02.000 We've got this.

00:35:03.000 From the Daily Beast, MAGA fooled by official RFK in your plan to ban pharma ads on TV.

00:35:09.000 A post on X announced the Health and Human Services Secretary's plan to ban the ads, but no such plan exists.

00:35:14.000 I don't believe you, Corbin Bolis.

00:35:17.000 Is that how you say his name?

00:35:18.000 I'll tell you why.

00:35:19.000 So it was Unusual Whales, which is not some random garbage user account.

00:35:26.000 This is like, they get stories, man.

00:35:29.000 Allies and adversaries of RFK Jr. alike were elated when an ex-post on Monday claimed that Health and Human Services Secretary planned to ban pharmaceutical ads from television.

00:35:37.000 But Kennedy made no such announcement and no such plan exists.

00:35:41.000 Breaking, RFK Jr. has announced plans to ban pharmaceutical advertisements on television, wrote Unusual Whales early Monday.

00:35:47.000 Unusual Wales is a service that provides data on unusual stock trading activity.

00:35:51.000 Politicians and media personalities circulated the news, most of whom praised Kennedy for acting on this long-stated desire to bar such ads from the airwaves.

00:35:59.000 Great idea, Hawley wrote.

00:36:01.000 Huge conspiracy theorist Naomi Wolf chimed in. 1.00

00:36:04.000 What about podcasts, MAGA podcaster Tim Pool mused?

00:36:07.000 Interesting. I think most of us in the public health would support this.

00:36:12.000 Dr. Ashish Jha, former President Joe Biden's COVID-19 response coordinator, wrote, though he noted the court challenges have impeded such efforts in the past.

00:36:21.000 Indeed, it's the First Amendment.

00:36:22.000 So they've put restrictions on pharmaceutical ads, but they can't block them because people have this right to speak up.

00:36:29.000 But Liz Wheeler breaks down exactly why this would be tremendous.

00:36:33.000 The corporate media will fail.

00:36:36.000 You will watch before your very eyes as highly paid MSM anchors are fired, networks panic, and some shut down.

00:36:42.000 Paychecks aren't paid.

00:36:43.000 The entire business of mainstream media is a fake business, artificially propped up by massive ad dollars from pharma ads.

00:36:49.000 Guys, I watch Fox News all day.

00:36:51.000 It's nothing but drug commercials.

00:36:53.000 Right into my veins.

00:36:55.000 Yeah, I know.

00:36:55.000 Is it America and New Zealand are the only places that have pharmaceutical?

00:36:59.000 Ads on TV.

00:37:00.000 I gotta say, though, Vanda Pharmaceuticals, you have the best commercials ever there.

00:37:04.000 There's the one where all electricity shuts down in Paris, and this woman runs. 1.00

00:37:09.000 For some reason, some random blonde woman is running full speed through Paris, climbs a tower, and then turns on all of Paris' electricity with a single lever. 1.00

00:37:17.000 I don't know why Paris has that kind of switch that can disable the entire city.

00:37:23.000 But while she's frantically running to restore the power, they're talking about a drug that might kill you.

00:37:28.000 Then there's the other one for Phanapt.

00:37:31.000 I just love this commercial, dude.

00:37:33.000 It's for bipolar 1 disorder.

00:37:34.000 You see, look what I'm doing.

00:37:35.000 But the commercial's so good.

00:37:37.000 You weren't paid for this, right?

00:37:38.000 No, I wasn't.

00:37:39.000 But I love the commercials because as the woman is trying to figure out how to lock the door to her store, it's telling you that the drug kills you.

00:37:47.000 It's like this German woman being like, Phanapt increases the QT interval, which is associated with heart arrhythmia and sudden death. 1.00

00:37:54.000 And I'm just like, wow!

00:37:56.000 That's an advertisement!

00:37:58.000 There's a reason SNL used to make fun of those commercials in the 90s.

00:38:01.000 And the commercials haven't changed.

00:38:02.000 So in all seriousness, I think all pharmaceutical ads should be banned.

00:38:06.000 Gone. None.

00:38:08.000 If it's a prescription drug, you shouldn't be able to run those ads on TV.

00:38:11.000 What do you guys think?

00:38:12.000 I love the idea, if only because it will destroy the mainstream media.

00:38:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:18.000 I'm fine with it.

00:38:19.000 I think all those drugs are poison, and they should go.

00:38:22.000 One thing that really...

00:38:24.000 I mean, just shows the cards of the mainstream media on this issue.

00:38:28.000 It's like, they're instantly bringing up First Amendment protestations on this.

00:38:33.000 Listen, I think everyone on this show loves the First Amendment.

00:38:38.000 As one Australian politician recently put it, you know, the reason we have these laws is because we don't have a First Amendment like they do in the United States.

00:38:45.000 Hell yeah, brother, we do have that.

00:38:47.000 You're not coming after my speech.

00:38:49.000 This isn't speech.

00:38:50.000 I mean, like, why is it then that there are restrictions on tobacco and other types of advertisements, and yet pharmaceuticals get to claim this special First Amendment privilege when that wasn't extended to other types of advertisements?

00:39:05.000 It doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

00:39:06.000 This is not at all what the First Amendment is designed.

00:39:09.000 A few years ago, I saw an interview with, I think it was the CEO of Clearview AI, that facial recognition app, and he was saying that it was their First Amendment right as a corporation to collect all the faces off.

00:39:20.000 What? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:22.000 And this is kind of a similar thing.

00:39:24.000 It's like the corporations are now, they have personhood.

00:39:27.000 We're going to give them our rights.

00:39:28.000 You know, it is a challenge, First Amendment-wise.

00:39:32.000 But I do, you know, this is why I keep going back to this wartime presidency, because my views have changed quite a bit.

00:39:41.000 I keep bringing this up today because it's top of mind, but I sat down with...

00:39:46.000 Constantine Kyson over at Triggerometry.

00:39:48.000 I was on the Triggerometry podcast.

00:39:49.000 It's going to come up.

00:39:50.000 I don't know when they're uploading the episode, but I really do recommend you guys watch the full thing.

00:39:54.000 But one point he asked me when I said, you know, Donald Trump should use the powers needed to preserve the union and stop the corruption.

00:40:03.000 And he said, he asked me the very basic question everybody asks and I think is very naive.

00:40:10.000 But I'm not saying he's naive.

00:40:11.000 I'm saying...

00:40:12.000 It's a good question, but the response is what happens when Democrats take control and then use those powers against you?

00:40:20.000 They already do.

00:40:21.000 My response is it doesn't matter what powers they use.

00:40:25.000 Any leader who gets in and enforces amoral degeneracy, I have a problem with.

00:40:31.000 And so no matter what we say we want today, it actually doesn't matter what the limit of the powers are.

00:40:37.000 It matters the moral worldview of the individual enforcing the rules.

00:40:43.000 The example that I give is, we ask the question, should parents have the final say in the healthcare decisions of their children, yes or no?

00:40:52.000 Yes. Unless they're going to abuse them. 0.86

00:40:56.000 Ah, and there's the problem.

00:40:57.000 So your answer is no.

00:40:58.000 The answer is outright no.

00:40:59.000 It does come to a part where the parents' idea of care actually is real-life abuse.

00:41:04.000 So you have two scenarios.

00:41:06.000 In Florida, the parents say, we want our children to be trans.

00:41:12.000 Should the parents have the final say?

00:41:14.000 No, because trans isn't real. 1.00

00:41:17.000 Okay, so...

00:41:18.000 Good answer.

00:41:18.000 Okay, now in California.

00:41:19.000 The parents say, we don't think trans is real, so we do not want this for our kids should the state intervene. 1.00

00:41:28.000 No, the parents should get out of the state.

00:41:30.000 I mean, look.

00:41:31.000 That's not what I asked.

00:41:32.000 And the point I'm bringing this up is, when it comes to the banning of pharmaceutical ads, I literally don't care about your but my morals question.

00:41:39.000 If we ban the speech today, Democrats will come and do something tomorrow.

00:41:44.000 Understand this.

00:41:45.000 If we had an amendment to the Constitution.

00:41:47.000 The 20th Amendment said all parents will get the final say as to the medical decisions of their children.

00:41:53.000 The end result would be waves of parents giving their children sex changes without our ability to intervene.

00:41:59.000 So do we want that principle enshrined in law?

00:42:04.000 When we're saying this, we're saying kids shouldn't be forced to take drugs when the parents are saying no.

00:42:09.000 The state shouldn't be allowed to take the kids from the parents. 0.99

00:42:11.000 Schools shouldn't be allowed to cover this stuff up.

00:42:13.000 We're, of course, not saying that parents should be allowed to abuse their children.

00:42:17.000 The issue is we want that enshrined in law, but as soon as a Democrat gets in, they reinterpret the principle and apply it in the other direction.

00:42:26.000 It doesn't matter what we say.

00:42:28.000 So if we were to say right now, this is not free speech to sell prescription drugs to people that could kill them and mess them up.

00:42:34.000 And it destroys this country.

00:42:36.000 Free speech is the expressing of political ideas that we want, not selling products.

00:42:41.000 Then, of course, we say, of course, I'm not talking about selling a sandwich.

00:42:45.000 Then what happens?

00:42:46.000 Democrat gets in, ban sandwiches.

00:42:48.000 A really great example is in New York, they banned public drinking.

00:42:51.000 And the city councilman that passed it at the time, they were concerned about homeless vagrants getting drunk.

00:42:56.000 And the exact quote when they were passing this provision was, let it not be said that a man...

00:43:02.000 Can't enjoy a beer with his lunch.

00:43:05.000 That is not what this legislation does.

00:43:07.000 Doesn't matter.

00:43:08.000 Today, in New York, you cannot enjoy a beer with your lunch.

00:43:13.000 They banned this back before there was drinking and driving.

00:43:15.000 People used to drink and drive, I think, what, in the 70s or something?

00:43:18.000 Like 60s?

00:43:18.000 60s, probably.

00:43:19.000 So my point is simply this.

00:43:21.000 Everybody keeps playing this game of, we must be principled.

00:43:25.000 And I'm like, bro.

00:43:28.000 Nobody has any agreement on what those principles are anymore.

00:43:31.000 Being principled applies to a country with social cohesion.

00:43:34.000 If everybody shares a moral worldview, we remain principled because we're saying, don't be corrupt.

00:43:39.000 But if you come to me and say, but Tim, if you say that Trump should arrest the corrupt politicians, Democrats will get in and do it too.

00:43:47.000 And I'm like, actually, let's do the way around.

00:43:49.000 Democrats did this, and now Trump should too.

00:43:51.000 I think you're pointing out there's been an inversion.

00:43:54.000 For a long time on the right about how these principles actually work with one another.

00:43:59.000 What you're pointing to is like, and the complaint about abusive parents, right?

00:44:04.000 In the case of abusive parents, whether that's sex changes or physical abuse or whatever.

00:44:09.000 If a second order principle is not in service of a higher principle, which is our view of there are things that are morally right and things that are morally wrong.

00:44:18.000 If someone has hijacked that...

00:44:20.000 Then that principle is no longer in service of the common good.

00:44:25.000 I go back to Aquinas and what he says about what law is.

00:44:29.000 Law has to be in service of the common good.

00:44:32.000 If it's not in service of the common good, then you are free to politically, prudently reject that law.

00:44:40.000 These aren't the left and their efforts to...

00:44:46.000 Trans the kids. 0.95

00:44:47.000 There's no way that that can be interpreted as some sort of positive moral good in a world where there is any sort of rational world where we can determine what is right, what is wrong, what is black, what is white, etc.

00:45:01.000 I think you're absolutely right on this.

00:45:04.000 this wartime presidency thing is actually a recovery of higher values in our politics that have been completely destroyed because people latched on to these secondary principles, right?

00:45:16.000 Wanting to have a say over your child's education or over your child's well-being and made that the entire ballgame.

00:45:23.000 And like, actually, we need to get back to the most basic stuff, which is, no, everybody, there is a right and a wrong.

00:45:29.000 The world was created by God.

00:45:31.000 He has a plan for So here's where we are.

00:45:35.000 Totally agree.

00:45:40.000 A dominant moral worldview is based on Christian moral ethics.

00:45:43.000 Whether atheists want to accept it or not, it's actually a fact.

00:45:47.000 You can disregard it.

00:45:48.000 That's what you get with wokeness and liberalism today.

00:45:51.000 In this period, we had, we believe in free speech.

00:45:55.000 Can you guys tell me one time, one time, this country has ever actually believed in free speech?

00:46:00.000 Because the answer is it never has.

00:46:02.000 And I'm not trying to drag this country.

00:46:04.000 I'd say it's a great country.

00:46:05.000 But when they actually passed, ratified the Bill of Rights, Blasphemy was still illegal.

00:46:10.000 You can go to small towns and they'd string you up, they'd kick you out, they'd criminally charge you for obscenities.

00:46:15.000 Speaking obscenities in public was illegal even in the 1970s.

00:46:19.000 In fact, the Second Amendment, when was that ever protected?

00:46:22.000 We argue about the NFA.

00:46:23.000 Please, you couldn't carry a gun on your person until 2008 with D.C. v.

00:46:29.000 Heller. So we like to look at the Constitution, and I will say this.

00:46:32.000 We have been winning tremendously over a long period of time.

00:46:36.000 Towards those goals in the Bill of Rights.

00:46:38.000 But the Founding Fathers never intended for any of them to be applied this way.

00:46:41.000 Because, like, I'll say it again.

00:46:42.000 You go back to the Founding Fathers, stand up in one of their congressional congresses, and start cussing and blaspheming, and they'd have you arrested.

00:46:50.000 And they'd say, we're not talking about the free speech to do that.

00:46:54.000 We're talking about the right peaceably assembled men.

00:46:57.000 That individuals could gather in a room and hold a Continental Congress of the King coming and shutting it down.

00:47:01.000 My point ultimately is this.

00:47:03.000 When our country is morally unified, we think we're operating under these principles.

00:47:08.000 But the truth is, the moment someone speaks out something nasty, we throw them under the bus.

00:47:13.000 To be fair, in the past 30 years, you could say the most important things in the world, you wouldn't get thrown in prison for it.

00:47:18.000 You go out and do Nazi stuff, you won't go to prison for it. 0.98

00:47:20.000 And that's the important point.

00:47:21.000 But that's still a recent development.

00:47:24.000 Today, my point is simply this.

00:47:26.000 There is no moral cohesion in this country.

00:47:28.000 The woke think being mean to people is violence and will enforce that law against you.

00:47:33.000 They argue that incitement to violence is not free speech.

00:47:37.000 The right then agrees. 0.73

00:47:39.000 They then say, and disparaging a group and calling them evil monsters is inciting people to attack them.

00:47:45.000 We then disagree.

00:47:46.000 Doesn't matter.

00:47:47.000 You will get a judge who will bang the gavel and say, of course if you demonize a whole group of people, people will attack them.

00:47:52.000 And so your principle of free speech is meaningless in the context of your morals.

00:47:57.000 Let's jump to this story, which actually brings us deeper into this problem.

00:48:02.000 Judge contends Nazis got more due process than Trump deportees did.

00:48:07.000 Don't care.

00:48:08.000 Really? And that's the answer I was looking for, Phil.

00:48:11.000 Don't care.

00:48:12.000 Who cares?

00:48:13.000 Donald Trump's trying to deport Trendy Aragua. 0.62

00:48:16.000 There's apparently arguments that there's a gay Venezuelan barber, asylum seeker, who's been wrapped up in this and sent to a Supermax in El Salvador, which is terrifying.

00:48:27.000 I don't want...

00:48:28.000 Well, first thing I gotta say is, why do you try to exploit my country and lie to get in here?

00:48:32.000 Because if you're from Venezuela, Mexico is right there, and you're safe.

00:48:36.000 But you... 0.88

00:48:37.000 So I think he's a liar who committed a crime against this country.

00:48:40.000 I don't think he deserves to go to Supermax, but at the same time...

00:48:44.000 Am I really going to come out right now and argue that Donald Trump should not use the fullest extent of his powers to undo the damage that Biden caused?

00:48:54.000 Joe Biden's fault.

00:48:55.000 Joe Biden allowed millions of people to come into this country illegally.

00:49:00.000 Now we have to get rid of them.

00:49:02.000 And that means that the chances of people that are not here illegally or that are not criminals or whatever, they're going to get wrapped up too.

00:49:11.000 And hopefully we can fix it.

00:49:13.000 After the fact, and that they don't have too much actual irreparable damage or whatever, or repercussions that can't be remedied.

00:49:23.000 But, there are going to be errors when you're trying to remove millions of people.

00:49:28.000 And I'm sorry that that's going to happen, but that's going to happen.

00:49:32.000 And you can't avoid it.

00:49:35.000 We are fallible humans.

00:49:36.000 If you want to blame someone, blame Joe Biden and blame Democrats who have been...

00:49:41.000 Pro-illegal immigration for at least 10 years.

00:49:46.000 And they lost 300,000 children.

00:49:48.000 Yeah. I will say, a gay barber that gets caught up in an El Salvadorian supermax prison sounds like a fantastic premise for a great comedy movie.

00:49:58.000 It's like Barry.

00:49:59.000 Have you watched Barry?

00:50:00.000 I haven't seen this.

00:50:01.000 It's about the serial killer, right?

00:50:03.000 He's like, yeah, he's like a murderer. 0.79

00:50:04.000 It's crazy.

00:50:05.000 Bill Hader is amazing, but there's a character just like that.

00:50:08.000 Yeah. Well, it goes back to the point you were just making about lamenting, oh, well, if we do this, then Democrats will eventually use that against us.

00:50:18.000 I think people are undercounting the knock-on effects that wielding this type of political power has, right?

00:50:23.000 Like, Democrats did all of these things in the Joe Biden administration, dating back to, you want to stretch back to FDR or Woodrow Wilson or whatever, right?

00:50:32.000 They were not concerned with what the right was going to do when the right got power.

00:50:37.000 That wasn't a worry for them.

00:50:39.000 Why? Because they knew if they exercised power in such a way, they could inculcate their interests and their peoples so that when we come in and we have a mandate like this on the right...

00:50:51.000 Breaking down that wall is proving really, really difficult.

00:50:55.000 Just ask the Trump administration legal team who finds themselves involved in 132 different court cases, right?

00:51:00.000 So this idea that power once wielded can be equally applied by the other side, I don't think that's true in the current system that we have.

00:51:10.000 So it's smart for the Trump administration, as Tim was saying, to use as much power as possible to...

00:51:17.000 Get back to those basics that we were talking about, right?

00:51:19.000 Moral cohesion.

00:51:20.000 To get back there, you need to destroy everything that they've built to inculcate their values.

00:51:25.000 Obviously, right now, if, you know, one of the questions I had for the trigonometry guys is, if, with all these terror attacks that are happening against Tesla facilities, and we've already seen the summer of riots, so we're in this period of conflict.

00:51:40.000 If the legislature of a state voted to protect These far-left groups from their own law enforcement and from federal law enforcement, should Trump intervene, invoke the Insurrection Act, and start enforcing the law federally through the National Guard?

00:51:58.000 I was hoping they were going to do that during the Black Lives Matter riots. 1.00

00:52:01.000 The Summer of Love.

00:52:02.000 Right, right.

00:52:03.000 They didn't do it then, right?

00:52:04.000 If the states then vote to bar the National Guard entry into their state and physically obstruct them...

00:52:12.000 Should Trump order the politicians arrested for levying war against the United States?

00:52:18.000 Seditious conspiracy.

00:52:20.000 Yeah, probably.

00:52:22.000 I mean, that is war.

00:52:24.000 I don't know what would be the politically prudent thing to do.

00:52:27.000 Would Trump theoretically be within his rights to do it in that situation?

00:52:31.000 Probably. So again, Abraham Lincoln had the Maryland legislature, portions of it arrested, for being sympathetic to the Confederacy.

00:52:40.000 Mayor of Baltimore.

00:52:41.000 The mayor of Baltimore, too.

00:52:43.000 The grandson of Francis Scott Key, as well, I think, was thrown in jail by Lincoln.

00:52:47.000 Suspended habeas corpus.

00:52:49.000 Okay, let me ask you guys this who are listening.

00:52:52.000 You can comment.

00:52:53.000 Do you think, and do you believe, two questions, that Abraham Lincoln was a despotic dictator, an evil man, who was abusing his power?

00:53:03.000 Do you believe that if you ask the average American that question, they would respond in the affirmative or the negative?

00:53:08.000 The average person would respond in the negative.

00:53:10.000 They would say he was a hero who did what he had to do to preserve the Union.

00:53:13.000 But he was a dictator.

00:53:14.000 And Donald Trump says he's like Abraham Lincoln.

00:53:17.000 Right. But I don't agree with what Lincoln did with suspending habeas corpus with those people because they were just openly saying they were sympathizers of the Confederacy.

00:53:26.000 Some of them didn't even do that.

00:53:27.000 The theory was that Abraham Lincoln didn't just arbitrarily be like, you know what, no habeas corpus for anybody.

00:53:32.000 He said...

00:53:33.000 We need safe passage between Pennsylvania and D.C. and Maryland as a slave state sympathetic to the Confederacy. 0.82

00:53:39.000 We need to remove the Confederate sympathizers, and we need to create a passage for U.S. military and troops to move into D.C. without any obstruction.

00:53:49.000 So the point of the suspension of habeas corpus was anyone who obstructed them would be arrested and removed immediately without question because they were at war.

00:53:57.000 We are not in a physical kinetic war right now.

00:54:00.000 What we have is higher generational warfare to some degree.

00:54:04.000 Fifth, maybe sixth.

00:54:05.000 We certainly have fourth.

00:54:06.000 Fourth generational warfare is insurgency.

00:54:09.000 Warfare does not mean you are at war with another nation or in a civil war or anything like that.

00:54:13.000 So there's subterfuge, there's subversion.

00:54:16.000 When I look at this story about the mass deportations, here's what I fear.

00:54:21.000 Donald Trump should not be rounding up innocent people.

00:54:25.000 I hope that doesn't happen. 0.96

00:54:26.000 As much as people might sympathize on the left with this gay barber, one thing remains clear.

00:54:32.000 He criminally entered this country to commit fraud against the United States.

00:54:36.000 Now, if we get a story of an American citizen who was sent to a supermax in El Salvador, then I will go to the White House personally.

00:54:45.000 I will text everyone I can and be like, get that citizen back here.

00:54:48.000 When Donald Trump joked that the Tesla terrorists...

00:54:51.000 Could maybe spend 20 years in a Supermax in El Salvador?

00:54:54.000 That's messed up.

00:54:55.000 I say no to that.

00:54:56.000 I think he's half-joking, but I'm not going to tolerate any kind of, we're going to ship American citizens to a foreign country to a max prison.

00:55:03.000 No way.

00:55:04.000 Far-leftist wingnuts get due process, and that due process is the right to a trial, because if you don't give them that, you don't get it either. 0.74

00:55:11.000 Now, as for these non-citizens, this gay barber asylum seeker, you want me to feel sorry for this guy? 1.00

00:55:16.000 The guy who illegally entered our country lied to us so that he could come here, break our laws? 1.00

00:55:21.000 Listen, I don't want him in a supermax prison.

00:55:23.000 I get it. 0.99

00:55:24.000 But the left is going, oh no, the poor gay barber. 1.00

00:55:27.000 Quick, burn the Constitution? 1.00

00:55:28.000 Sorry, not happening.

00:55:30.000 You do not illegally enter this country and take advantage of the American people and then expect me to come out and defend you the way I would an American citizen or a legal resident who did everything right.

00:55:39.000 That being said, Mahmoud Khalil, he's on a two-year temporary green card.

00:55:43.000 They act like he's a permanent resident.

00:55:45.000 That's a technicality because he is on a green card, but it's a temporary.

00:55:48.000 It's conditional.

00:55:49.000 And he helped organize violent protests where they took over buildings and threatened workers, and there was violence against students.

00:55:58.000 Sorry, you get your visa revoked for that.

00:56:00.000 See ya.

00:56:01.000 Yeah. Right.

00:56:02.000 That type of crime?

00:56:03.000 No. No tolerance for it.

00:56:05.000 No tolerance for it at all.

00:56:06.000 And the crazy thing about...

00:56:08.000 What we see on college campuses right now on the left is all of those people who work in those buildings asked for it for so long.

00:56:20.000 This is the type of academic environment they wanted to inculcate.

00:56:25.000 They wanted to create this activist class that was either going to dole out USAID dollars or receive USAID dollars.

00:56:38.000 I don't know.

00:56:39.000 I just...

00:56:40.000 The brain rot finally come for their own institutions.

00:56:43.000 There's something very gratifying about it.

00:56:47.000 At the same time, I really...

00:56:50.000 Like, a lot of these administrations on these college campuses are doubling down on these DEI policies or on this type of...

00:56:58.000 Changing names.

00:56:59.000 Did Columbia cave today for the $400 million?

00:57:02.000 I don't know.

00:57:02.000 Did they?

00:57:03.000 There's some New York college, I think it was Columbia, that caved to get to 400 mil.

00:57:08.000 The point, if they did, that's a win.

00:57:11.000 Because I see this window, right, the campus Hamas-Israel protests.

00:57:20.000 I think that's why...

00:57:37.000 The speech issue paired with leveraging federal funds is the perfect way to do this.

00:57:43.000 Because if they don't, I mean, you just have to bring these institutions to heel.

00:57:46.000 Like, this is the wartime presidency in a certain respect.

00:57:51.000 It's this weird balance.

00:57:53.000 I got bad news for everybody.

00:57:55.000 I think that we're going to be moving towards the left propaganda campaign we predicted.

00:58:00.000 Photos and videos of people being loaded on trains, buses, or whatever.

00:58:03.000 They're going to say Trump is Hitler.

00:58:05.000 It's Hitler 2.0. 0.94

00:58:06.000 Here we go.

00:58:07.000 There's nothing you can do.

00:58:09.000 We've got, on the low end, an estimated 10 million people who illegally entered this country, and that doesn't include the people who are legally allowed to enter under Joe Biden's special programs, like the 530,000 Haitians, Cubans, etc., and Venezuelans.

00:58:22.000 They were allowed to legally enter.

00:58:24.000 These people didn't come here illegally.

00:58:25.000 They were told if they had a sponsor here, they could come.

00:58:27.000 Trump's terminating 500,000 immigrant legal statuses.

00:58:32.000 Now, that's tough.

00:58:34.000 These are people who didn't break the law.

00:58:36.000 They were told by Joe Biden, come on down.

00:58:37.000 It's fine.

00:58:38.000 It's legal.

00:58:39.000 But this was still an attack on the American people, seeking to flood the zone in liberal jurisdictions to boost their electoral vote count.

00:58:47.000 This is the game that Democrats have been playing.

00:58:49.000 Trump will reverse this, otherwise the country is doomed.

00:58:53.000 There will be a response from the left in some capacity, and you are going to get these narratives. 0.89

00:58:59.000 Trump is a despot who's rounding up.

00:59:02.000 The game they're playing right now is... 1.00

00:59:04.000 The gay barber is innocent. 0.96

00:59:07.000 That's what they're saying. 0.99

00:59:08.000 They're saying this gay barber is innocent. 1.00

00:59:11.000 He was an asylum seeker and Trump accused him of being trying to Aragua, sent him to Supermax. 0.50

00:59:15.000 My response is, that's propaganda.

00:59:18.000 He entered the country illegally.

00:59:20.000 End of story.

00:59:22.000 Asylum seeker means he entered illegally. 0.97

00:59:24.000 Because if he didn't, then he wouldn't be an asylum seeker. 0.97

00:59:28.000 He'd be a visa holder.

00:59:28.000 He'd be a green card holder.

00:59:30.000 He came from Venezuela, bypassing every country in between where he could have been safe, came to the United States for economic reasons, most likely, breaking our laws, and in the sweep, he gets deported. 0.99

00:59:42.000 Now, I've heard two conflicting reports.

00:59:43.000 One says he's still currently in U.S. detention or in U.S.-controlled detention, awaiting some kind of hearing.

00:59:50.000 Others have said he's already in Venezuela.

00:59:52.000 But this is not an American citizen who is innocent.

00:59:55.000 This is a man who committed a crime.

00:59:57.000 For which the due process is, sir, are you a citizen?

00:59:59.000 No? Goodbye.

01:00:01.000 When they start pumping out that propaganda with the people in trucks getting pushed out, all our friends out there just keep saying, I voted for this.

01:00:08.000 We've got to push through it, but the crazy people are going to get crazier.

01:00:11.000 I'm watching people out there. 0.99

01:00:12.000 They're unhinged, like leftists. 0.99

01:00:15.000 They're crazier now, or just as crazy as they were during the Summer of Love. 1.00

01:00:19.000 Indeed. Let's talk about what's going on with Tesla.

01:00:23.000 We have this story from The Guardian.

01:00:25.000 Incendiary devices found at Texas Tesla dealership amid growing protests.

01:00:30.000 The Trump administration has pledged to crack down on vandalism and protest against Elon Musk's car company.

01:00:35.000 So this is in Austin.

01:00:36.000 They found what are incendiary bombs at these dealerships.

01:00:41.000 The bomb squad was deployed.

01:00:44.000 Just another story, another day where we're getting this far-left terror.

01:00:49.000 Now over the weekend, I took my Cybertruck to D.C. and I drove it around Martinsburg, West Virginia.

01:00:55.000 And someone, so on our way to D.C., a woman in a blue car, we're auto-driving.

01:01:01.000 So the Cybertruck is just in the middle of the, like, in its lane, perfectly, driving on the highway.

01:01:06.000 You know, the driver is sitting there with his hands at his lap, looking down the road.

01:01:10.000 That's what you do when it's auto-driving.

01:01:11.000 This lady gets right on the line of her lane and is super close to the truck. 1.00

01:01:17.000 Like, I could have touched her car.

01:01:18.000 I could have just like...

01:01:19.000 Put my hand out.

01:01:19.000 And she's looking left, not looking forward, staring at us in the car.

01:01:24.000 And one of my buddies in the car was like, yo, this lady's like getting up on us and she's staring at us. 1.00

01:01:28.000 This is weird.

01:01:29.000 And she held that for a couple of minutes.

01:01:30.000 And I'm thinking, maybe it's just a bad driver.

01:01:34.000 Right? We get to DC.

01:01:36.000 And as we were pulling into a charging station, some lady points at us and the guy who's with her spits at us. 1.00

01:01:45.000 We had...

01:01:47.000 So that was it.

01:01:49.000 I mean, maybe it's nothing, right?

01:01:50.000 In Martinsburg, West Virginia, we had a woman, roller went in and started screaming at the top of our lungs at us. 1.00

01:01:56.000 Just like screaming with her kid in the car. 0.98

01:01:58.000 And then the other thing was, I pulled up, I was at a stop sign, and a guy pulled up, looked at me, and then just gave a thumbs down like that.

01:02:05.000 And then I just gave him a salute.

01:02:07.000 And he took off.

01:02:08.000 That's all I really experienced.

01:02:09.000 I tweeted that, and it got retweeted like crazy.

01:02:13.000 I guess the reason it matters, as much as I was kind of like, yo, I don't really care.

01:02:16.000 There is an unease.

01:02:18.000 You don't know who's going to walk up and throw something at your car or who's going to...

01:02:22.000 You know, we're seeing all these videos of violence and vandalism.

01:02:25.000 Most people don't realize it's a hundred times worse than that.

01:02:28.000 The videos you see of the violence, probably 1% of what's actually going on.

01:02:33.000 There's a bunch of videos where people are hitting the cars, denting the cars, kicking the cars, keying the cars.

01:02:38.000 But you're not hearing from the people who aren't in sentry mode.

01:02:41.000 Sentry mode is when the car records everything around it.

01:02:44.000 Most people aren't using that.

01:02:46.000 They don't think they need it, right?

01:02:47.000 So their cars are getting damaged.

01:02:48.000 I gotta tell you, I drive that truck around and you can see it.

01:02:51.000 These people are freaking out.

01:02:54.000 One last thing on this.

01:02:57.000 A middle class guy, liberal, two years ago, buys a Tesla for 30 grand.

01:03:03.000 He finances it.

01:03:04.000 So he puts 5 grand down.

01:03:06.000 He still owes 26,000 because there's fees.

01:03:08.000 He's like, I did what the left wanted me to do.

01:03:10.000 I bought an electric car.

01:03:12.000 Two years later, They're destroying it.

01:03:14.000 They're keying it.

01:03:15.000 So now he's got a dented fender.

01:03:17.000 He's got it keyed left and right.

01:03:18.000 And he says, I can't sell it because they damaged it.

01:03:21.000 And if I try to sell it now, I can sell it for 10K and I'm underwater $16,000 in debt.

01:03:27.000 What do I do?

01:03:28.000 That is the evil of the left and the world they've built for you.

01:03:32.000 Yep. I always thought it was going to be the child slaves in the cobalt mines attacking Teslas. 0.93

01:03:38.000 Turns out.

01:03:39.000 Too far away.

01:03:41.000 Turns out, in fact, it was the climate change activated.

01:03:43.000 Francis Ngannou is coming back.

01:03:45.000 It's funny that...

01:03:49.000 You mentioned that you've had this experience, and I think that it's probably due to the fact that you were driving around in a Cybertruck, because I own a Tesla, and I actually went to D.C. this weekend myself.

01:03:59.000 Not a dirty look.

01:04:01.000 Well, I mean, you know, I've got a...

01:04:03.000 Me and Sarah went to look at the...

01:04:06.000 to see the cherry blossom.

01:04:07.000 No, but you also kind of have a don't F with me look.

01:04:10.000 I mean, look, man, I'm not some tough guy or whatever, and I'm there with my girlfriend and stuff, and it's like, you know, I do drive a black S, so it's not like some kind of, like, it doesn't stick out the same way that a Cybertruck does, you know?

01:04:23.000 And I think that that's probably why, you know, Tim, people, you know, took notice of Tim is because of the vehicle itself.

01:04:29.000 I think maybe tomorrow I'm going to send out a film crew and one of our armed guards just to park the vehicle and, like...

01:04:39.000 I hate to say we're going to have an armed guard.

01:04:41.000 There's no intention for violence.

01:04:42.000 We want to interview the people who actually try to come up and engage the vehicle or do whatever they would do with it.

01:04:48.000 The moment they come near it, we'll have the cameras come around the corner and just be like, what are you doing and why are you doing it?

01:04:54.000 So I can hear what these people have to say.

01:04:56.000 It's like to catch a predator.

01:04:58.000 Right, exactly.

01:04:58.000 But for cyber trucks.

01:04:59.000 But for cyber trucks.

01:05:01.000 And then, you know, try and have them respond and be like, most people who bought these vehicles did it apolitically.

01:05:07.000 Yeah. They're not buying them because they're like, woo, Elon!

01:05:10.000 You should, if you want to do this, you should try to do it near a federal building where a lot of federal workers work.

01:05:18.000 Oh, boy.

01:05:19.000 And see if it's federal workers who come after. 0.75

01:05:23.000 Well, I don't know.

01:05:25.000 We've got a couple universities around here, you know.

01:05:28.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:29.000 That would be, yeah.

01:05:30.000 But it's hard to know.

01:05:31.000 I mean...

01:05:31.000 Liberty University, they just, like, give it a hug.

01:05:34.000 People don't get this, but...

01:05:36.000 You think West Virginia is like this big red state.

01:05:39.000 It is.

01:05:39.000 But every city is blue.

01:05:41.000 Everywhere. So when you go to Martinsburg, West Virginia, there's progress pride flags everywhere.

01:05:47.000 And this is one of the concerns the locals were telling us when we were trying to set up shop there, which we are not anymore because of the far-left extremism and the vandalism and the violence.

01:05:56.000 But it's unfortunate because local businesses said these woke people from Frederick and from parts of Maryland are coming here because the rent is cheap.

01:06:05.000 And they're bringing that influence with them.

01:06:08.000 Now it's infecting their city, and what can you do?

01:06:12.000 I wonder what the environmental impact is on destroying a Tesla.

01:06:19.000 That's a big question for me.

01:06:20.000 I also think of, I don't know if you guys have seen this, but the heat map for liberal psychology and conservative psychology, whereas, so it's a circle, and it's like a bullseye.

01:06:33.000 And so the bullseye is if you have the strongest attachment to your family, then your outer family, your close friends, friends, peers, you know, colleagues, blah, blah, blah.

01:06:41.000 And it goes all the way out until the last rung of the bullseye is everything in existence.

01:06:47.000 And the conservative heat map is really concentrated on those first fundamental units of society.

01:06:55.000 Your peers, your colleagues, your family, your friends, right?

01:07:00.000 Really centralized.

01:07:01.000 For the left, The heat map actually focuses on rung 13 or 14, which is all living things including trees and plants.

01:07:13.000 So it's this Brothers Karamazov problem where you can't love individual people or things or your community.

01:07:20.000 You have to love everything in the abstract.

01:07:21.000 And I feel like this is that in real life.

01:07:24.000 It's a little bit worse, actually.

01:07:26.000 The researchers described it as inert objects.

01:07:30.000 Democrats' heat center on that map centers around inert objects like trees and rocks.

01:07:36.000 Rocks, literally.

01:07:37.000 Wow. And to be fair, I care deeply about rocks.

01:07:40.000 Rocks are cool.

01:07:41.000 I see a rock formation that's thousands of years old, like a big circle sitting on a little thing.

01:07:45.000 Somebody wants to smash that up, I'm stopping them.

01:07:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:48.000 Like, no, no, no, no, don't you touch that rock.

01:07:50.000 That's a cool rock.

01:07:51.000 I'm with you.

01:07:51.000 As for the gravel outside, I don't much care.

01:07:54.000 I mean, I'm not particularly fond of gravel either, myself.

01:07:59.000 Yeah, gravel's bad!

01:08:00.000 But that's what this is, right?

01:08:03.000 It manifests in your community, which is these people don't actually care that they're destroying your Teslas.

01:08:10.000 They're so fixated on loving, you know...

01:08:13.000 The government are loving America in the abstract.

01:08:17.000 They don't actually know or understand or have any sense of what it actually is, right?

01:08:22.000 Because they've decided that America is this amorphous thing that I get to decide what it is at any point in time.

01:08:27.000 And if that requires me destroying someone's Tesla or getting out in the streets during Summer of Love and burning down whole neighborhoods or not calling the police when I see a crime happen on the street or locking up Daniel Penny, you know, any of those things are totally fit in.

01:08:43.000 This psychological matrix that people have actually mapped now and we get to see how deranged this movement actually is.

01:08:49.000 I just think it's a cult, you know, and sometimes I watch some of these other podcasts sometimes and I know that many of these other prominent personalities are too scared to say what they know is true.

01:09:04.000 Come on.

01:09:06.000 There were two assassination attempts on Donald Trump.

01:09:09.000 We have no explanation for the first one.

01:09:12.000 Jenna Ellis, Trump's lawyer, was charged with RICO simply for drafting a letter for the president.

01:09:16.000 She didn't do anything.

01:09:18.000 And I think it was in Minnesota, Wisconsin, they went after Trump's lawyers as well.

01:09:22.000 The moment Democrats in government tried to arrest Trump's lawyers for simply representing him, it was apparent that we were in some kind of...

01:09:33.000 Fight between warring factions in the government for control of that government.

01:09:38.000 I would say even earlier, right, when Obama's wiretapping Trump's campaign.

01:09:42.000 Absolutely. Right?

01:09:43.000 And I, you know, it's fascinating to me when I ask people about this and they refuse to answer the question.

01:09:51.000 I am not saying anything.

01:09:54.000 It's like, it's not an opinion statement.

01:09:56.000 It is a fact question.

01:09:58.000 Did they try to arrest Trump's lawyers?

01:10:00.000 Yes or no?

01:10:01.000 The answer is yes.

01:10:01.000 Okay, yes.

01:10:02.000 It's a fact.

01:10:03.000 They literally did arrest his lawyers.

01:10:04.000 They literally did.

01:10:05.000 They indicted and arrested.

01:10:07.000 Okay. Is that unconstitutional?

01:10:10.000 Yes, it literally is.

01:10:12.000 Okay. So have Democrats unconstitutionally targeted the president with criminal indictments, threats of property seizure, targeting of his assets, resources, family, and lawyers?

01:10:24.000 Yes, all of that's true.

01:10:25.000 What do you call that?

01:10:27.000 That's an honest question.

01:10:28.000 There's no gotcha.

01:10:29.000 There's no trick question.

01:10:29.000 I don't know.

01:10:30.000 How would you describe a state of government where one political faction has violated the supreme law of the land, that's the Constitution, to destroy their political opponent?

01:10:41.000 Banana Republic, despotism.

01:10:43.000 It'd be like Banana Republic or something like that.

01:10:46.000 Because that's the type of thing that you'd like to hear from third world countries and stuff.

01:10:51.000 Those things are facts.

01:10:52.000 And I want to make sure I do this.

01:10:56.000 Because for a lot of people who don't know, here you go.

01:11:00.000 Jenna Ellis becomes latest Trump lawyer to plead guilty over efforts to overturn George's election.

01:11:07.000 Crying in court, pleading guilty.

01:11:09.000 I think the argument was that it would be overturned or whatever.

01:11:11.000 This is October 24th, 2023.

01:11:14.000 It's a fact.

01:11:15.000 They've arrested more than one of Trump's lawyers.

01:11:18.000 That's unconstitutional.

01:11:19.000 The right to due process and legal representation is enshrined in our Bill of Rights, in our Constitution.

01:11:24.000 They did it.

01:11:26.000 We know they did.

01:11:27.000 Okay. This is an administrative level.

01:11:29.000 They also tried to seize his assets in New York City.

01:11:34.000 Even though Deutsche Bank, Trump's creditors, his lenders, argued that he made them money, he never deceived them, and they liked to work with him again, they still found him liable of civil fraud.

01:11:47.000 Now, with these things being true, the question then is, what should a now Trump administration do?

01:11:55.000 In response to what they did to him.

01:11:59.000 You gotta go full force.

01:12:00.000 Yeah. Not a trick question.

01:12:02.000 Honest question.

01:12:03.000 What do you think?

01:12:03.000 I mean, I don't know about these exactly, but I always think about how I want Nuremberg trials for all the COVID stuff.

01:12:10.000 So, I ask these questions to other personalities, and they are terrified to actually engage in this conversation.

01:12:19.000 Why? Because they know what the end result of all of this is going to be.

01:12:23.000 Life is not going to be fun at all.

01:12:25.000 It's going to be scary.

01:12:26.000 They shut the world down already.

01:12:28.000 I know.

01:12:29.000 And people have always hoped they can just lay on the floor and the mob will pass their house by.

01:12:38.000 You're right.

01:12:39.000 They already took your life away.

01:12:41.000 And they're hoping and begging it doesn't happen again.

01:12:43.000 Okay. If Donald Trump does not criminally charge and investigate, if Dan Bongino and Kash Patel do not go after these...

01:12:52.000 Individuals who violated the Constitution targeting their political opponent, you have no country.

01:12:59.000 Totally. If they are allowed to do these things without repercussion, there was the lawyer who altered an email so Carter Page would go to jail.

01:13:08.000 Remember that?

01:13:08.000 Falsifying evidence.

01:13:10.000 The fake impeachments, the censorship, the only rational conclusion is, for anybody who knows the truth, Trump must investigate, indict, Arrest and charge politicians, attorneys general, district attorneys.

01:13:27.000 You go to one of these run-of-the-mill woke light or fake centrist types, and you ask them these questions, they will abandon the conversation faster than you can say, andele, andele, yipa, yipa.

01:13:41.000 Yeah, I voted for accountability.

01:13:43.000 Like, these people mutilated our society.

01:13:45.000 And first, they attacked us during lockdowns, forced people out of their jobs.

01:13:49.000 Destroyed families.

01:13:51.000 We can go through the whole list.

01:13:52.000 And then they went after Trump super hard.

01:13:53.000 So I want accountability.

01:13:56.000 There's the meme that Trump puts out.

01:13:59.000 They're not after me.

01:14:00.000 They're after you.

01:14:01.000 I'm just in the way.

01:14:02.000 There's a significant amount of truth to that.

01:14:04.000 They're after the liberties that you have as an American.

01:14:09.000 And the idea that...

01:14:13.000 Now that the right is in power, they shouldn't try to, one, rectify the things that have been broken, and two, try to punish those people that actually did the breaking.

01:14:25.000 That's absurd.

01:14:26.000 The right is in power.

01:14:28.000 They should use every means at their disposal to rectify the problems that were caused by the Democrats and punish the people that did it.

01:14:37.000 And their neocon friends as well.

01:14:38.000 Of course, of course, of course.

01:14:39.000 Yeah. I think...

01:14:41.000 So what happens if Donald Trump then – so some of the – actually, you know what?

01:14:46.000 I should pull this one up.

01:14:47.000 We didn't have it – we didn't have the story pulled up, but I do think we should just – we'll just grab it.

01:14:55.000 I don't want to use Reuters.

01:14:56.000 Let's use New York Post.

01:14:58.000 Let's jump to the story from the New York Post.

01:15:00.000 Trump revoked security clearance for Joe Biden, an entire family, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton, and other political foes.

01:15:07.000 I mean the viral claim here.

01:15:09.000 Is that this is the precursor to investigation, indictment, and arrest.

01:15:14.000 Yes. Good.

01:15:16.000 They're removing their security clearance so these individuals don't know the movements that are happening behind the scenes.

01:15:21.000 Biden did it to Trump.

01:15:22.000 Indeed. And so should Trump actually do this if these rumors are true?

01:15:28.000 Yes. What do you think the left will say?

01:15:30.000 Freaking out. 0.99

01:15:31.000 This is going to feed their confirmation bias that he's a crazy dictator. 0.98

01:15:34.000 And with them already firebombing Tesla dealerships and shooting cars. 0.97

01:15:39.000 It'll accelerate.

01:15:40.000 It's going to get ugly.

01:15:41.000 But it's been ugly.

01:15:42.000 This is the conversation I've tried having with many moderate individuals.

01:15:47.000 They don't want to have it.

01:15:48.000 They simply just say, no, I don't think so.

01:15:51.000 And just answer the question, yes or no.

01:15:53.000 Did they arrest Trump's lawyers?

01:15:56.000 I'm just saying, I don't want to have this conversation because I figured. 1.00

01:15:58.000 You're a coward. 0.99

01:15:59.000 That's why. 0.99

01:16:00.000 I want to highlight a piece written by Dr. Matthew Meehan in The American Mind about a roadmap to restore accountability in our government.

01:16:10.000 And one thing that he mentions in this piece is the first thing that you can go after, and it's actually a relatively easy thing to go after, rather than the types of high crimes that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris might be engaged in, just go after perjury first.

01:16:23.000 Just get those guys.

01:16:25.000 Because we've seen it from Brennan.

01:16:27.000 We've seen it from Clapper.

01:16:28.000 We've seen it from all these guys in the past. 0.87

01:16:30.000 I do think, though, I have to convince myself on a daily basis to not be so gosh darn red meat about this issue.

01:16:40.000 Because I am no moderate on this.

01:16:42.000 I think we should go all the way.

01:16:46.000 We need to hold these people accountable.

01:16:48.000 At the same time, what's the type of...

01:16:54.000 I won't call it destruction.

01:16:56.000 I'll call it creative destruction that you need over these types of individuals.

01:17:00.000 Like, is justice served if there is a requisite amount of public knowledge and public destruction of these individuals and their crimes?

01:17:10.000 So like, can I make it impossible for Hillary Clinton to ever go get a stipend? 1.00

01:17:16.000 It's not enough for me.

01:17:17.000 I get it.

01:17:18.000 I want them in jail.

01:17:19.000 Right. So you want definitely some of these people in jail, but it's like, how do you balance that in a way so that we don't get into a situation where the entire country starts to fall apart?

01:17:29.000 And so I've really been trying to think about what Dr. Meehan challenges people to think about.

01:17:35.000 It's like proper political uses of clemency that can strengthen accountability, public trust, and the rule of law.

01:17:41.000 And if we...

01:17:43.000 If we all sit around and realize that we're in a country that that is impossible now, I don't even know how you can grapple with that.

01:17:53.000 I don't know if shaming those people like a Clinton will even fix it.

01:17:58.000 It's not just public shame.

01:18:00.000 It is like the full trial procedure, etc.

01:18:04.000 Is there a punishment?

01:18:06.000 If they're found guilty after a trial, is there a punishment?

01:18:10.000 I think you could use specific...

01:18:14.000 It depends on the circumstance, right?

01:18:16.000 So for someone like Anthony Fauci, who is guilty of perjury and many other things, like jail!

01:18:23.000 Or space.

01:18:25.000 Or he's going to be the first guy on Mars.

01:18:27.000 That's right.

01:18:28.000 He'll ruin Mars.

01:18:30.000 William asks on Mars.

01:18:33.000 If you're talking about...

01:18:35.000 I'm trying to figure out someone who'd be more apropos.

01:18:38.000 Maybe like a governor.

01:18:40.000 Like a Whitmer or a Cuomo.

01:18:41.000 Yeah, maybe it's enough to go through this process.

01:18:44.000 And then on the back end, Trump just being like, I pardon you.

01:18:47.000 Right. I couldn't handle it.

01:18:50.000 Personally, I don't want them pardoned. 0.99

01:18:52.000 Those people are genocidal maniacs. 0.96

01:18:54.000 We know that the governors of several blue states put COVID patients in nursing homes, killing the elderly. 0.98

01:18:59.000 Against the CDC's even...

01:19:00.000 The CDC said they don't even do it.

01:19:02.000 And they were like, nah.

01:19:03.000 For sure.

01:19:03.000 No, again, I'm trying to figure out politically sustainable ways to hold these people accountable.

01:19:08.000 While keeping the country together.

01:19:10.000 While keeping the country together.

01:19:11.000 Donald Trump did not start this.

01:19:13.000 Oh, I know he didn't start it.

01:19:15.000 So you're basically saying there needs to be a way to be nice to people who initiated...

01:19:21.000 No, it's not necessarily nice.

01:19:23.000 It's not necessarily nice.

01:19:26.000 And it's not meant to be nice to those people who have done the wrong.

01:19:29.000 It is to...

01:19:31.000 Figure out a way to structure our retribution, because our retribution is going to be success, in a way that doesn't destroy the country.

01:19:41.000 Because I don't think, one, let me just be clear, I don't think Trump's going to destroy the country, golden age, blah blah blah blah blah.

01:19:47.000 But, if these are the stakes, right, where like, it's going to be, Summer of Love is going to look like a sideshow, if this thing really kicks off.

01:19:56.000 And I think we really do have to think about this really critically.

01:20:00.000 Summer of Love will kick off.

01:20:02.000 It's already starting.

01:20:04.000 They've got, on the 29th, the Tesla takedown.

01:20:07.000 500 locations, I think it is, or 500 events.

01:20:11.000 Just today, we already covered the story, they found more bombs at a Tesla location in Austin.

01:20:17.000 We've had more stories of violence and vandalism targeting private Tesla owners.

01:20:22.000 There's a disabled woman. 0.99

01:20:24.000 She's in a wheelchair, and some guy, this is another viral video, just went out, keyed her car totally, and she's like, I'm handicapped, and I bought an electric car for the environment.

01:20:33.000 This is what happens to me.

01:20:34.000 That was terrible.

01:20:35.000 I do not see a circumstance where psychotic and deranged people simply stop.

01:20:40.000 However, there is the argument that we're actually on the back end of this conflict with Trump winning.

01:20:45.000 This is, how do people describe it?

01:20:47.000 First Trump term is a new hope.

01:20:49.000 Biden term is Empire Strikes Back.

01:20:51.000 And now we're in Return of the Jedi, Return of the Orange Man.

01:20:54.000 Maybe Trump arrests these people.

01:20:57.000 We see actual arrests of sitting politicians with indictments and publicly available evidence.

01:21:05.000 And the left does lose their mind, but maybe their power is waning.

01:21:10.000 Case in point, USAID is gutted and gone.

01:21:13.000 Trump has fired all these federal prosecutors that were from Joe Biden.

01:21:16.000 He's gutted the SDNY.

01:21:19.000 The power structures used by the left to wage administrative warfare and NGO-based conflict have been shredded to pieces.

01:21:26.000 So maybe now, in a few months, there will not be the resources to create these...

01:21:31.000 Good point, because he's robbed them of their narrative machine.

01:21:34.000 Not just that, their money.

01:21:36.000 What did Lee Zeldin find?

01:21:39.000 $375 billion that was being allocated towards climate NGOs?

01:21:43.000 Yep. That's crazy.

01:21:45.000 A part of me also feels like the country is destroyed.

01:21:48.000 Even though we're living our lives as if it's not, like post-lockdowns, things just never went back.

01:21:54.000 They feel like maybe to people like it's normal, but we're not in like a good place.

01:21:59.000 The economy is so bad.

01:22:00.000 People are suffering so bad.

01:22:03.000 I don't think you just get over that.

01:22:05.000 Yeah, and I'm not some moderate coward who thinks everything's hunky-dory.

01:22:08.000 Yeah, but you're making that guy's point, though, from the American mind.

01:22:11.000 Yeah, and I think Dr. Meehan does raise a really important political point.

01:22:16.000 I want justice and clemency in that order, and that's the only way that I just don't know.

01:22:21.000 I just don't know how the country doesn't go wrong way.

01:22:26.000 Yeah, I don't think there's any way it's going to go.

01:22:29.000 A good way.

01:22:30.000 You know, no matter what we do.

01:22:31.000 It needs to happen, though.

01:22:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:22:32.000 But again, I want to at least have there be a consideration of optimism in that we were talking about winning a culture war, and we all rallied and voted for Donald Trump and for the Republicans, and they've got the House, the Senate, and the executive branch right now, and they're actually using it.

01:22:48.000 Is it perfect?

01:22:49.000 No. But it's above and beyond my expectations.

01:22:54.000 If this continues forward...

01:22:56.000 There may not be an NGO mechanism to create protests.

01:23:00.000 The far left may end up getting arrested and rounded up in these protests.

01:23:03.000 And they go to prison for a long time.

01:23:05.000 And the Summer of Love may not...

01:23:07.000 Actually, I think we're already in the emergence of it.

01:23:09.000 It's springtime.

01:23:10.000 But I'm wondering if we end up with little to nothing.

01:23:15.000 Because Trump has crushed their machines.

01:23:17.000 I would...

01:23:17.000 That's... That would be, in my opinion, that is the best-case outcome, is if the narrative-building machines that the left has used with the NGOs and the unlimited money that the federal government can produce and print up, and just as long as they can get Congress to sign off on some omnibus bill, then they have almost unlimited money.

01:23:40.000 That kind of...

01:23:42.000 You know, starving of the beast, you know, starving of the monster.

01:23:45.000 That might be something that actually prevents serious problems this summer.

01:23:51.000 Like, they don't have the funding to have all the, you know, transporting people around.

01:23:57.000 Like, I forget the name of the food truck that was going from...

01:24:03.000 From Washington, all over the country, the riot meals or whatever.

01:24:08.000 Oh, yeah.

01:24:09.000 I remember that.

01:24:10.000 Wow, that was a while ago.

01:24:11.000 Yeah, I forget the name of it.

01:24:11.000 But the point is, like these things that were happening, they were funded.

01:24:16.000 And a lot of it seems like it was coming through, whether it be USAID or funding to NGOs.

01:24:23.000 If we can actually cut off that funding, if the Trump administration can actually cut off that funding, you might be able to get a real, real understanding of what the American people actually think as opposed to what they're, you know, what they're led to believe because of NGOs and narrative.

01:24:39.000 Let me just see if I get what Phil's saying real quick.

01:24:58.000 The events in the cycle is, Biden goes after Trump, Trump does something about it, left freaks out, Trump does something, and then, you know, left decides to go after Trump again.

01:25:09.000 So if we can destroy the left's outrage machine that you think disassembles the cycle and you don't need to be so concerned with those types of political consequences that we were just – Further than that, it might be that the reason the left has had such influence on society overall is because of the money that was being pumped in.

01:25:32.000 So we might actually not have a representation of what people do actually think in this country because it's been skewed by...

01:25:40.000 Leftist funding, leftist narrative building, and stuff like that.

01:25:43.000 So if it's possible that they have actually, by breaking that cycle, you might have a new understanding of what the American people actually do.

01:25:54.000 We've got breaking news, my friends.

01:25:56.000 I don't know if it's breaking, but I just saw it.

01:25:58.000 It's 551.

01:25:59.000 Governor Patrick Morrissey of West Virginia has signed the ban on artificial food dyes and other chemicals.

01:26:08.000 In food, starting January 1st, 2028, you cannot sell food in West Virginia if it contains one of seven dyes and other fake garbage.

01:26:21.000 This is epic.

01:26:22.000 There were concerns the governor was being pressured by major food lobbying groups saying the state will lose billions of dollars.

01:26:29.000 In the end, he did the right thing and the difficult thing as a good leader, and he banned it.

01:26:35.000 The New York Times says in the most sweeping move of its kind, West Virginia has banned foods containing most artificial food dyes and two preservatives, citing their health risks.

01:26:44.000 The legislation signed into law Monday by Governor Patrick Morrissey will go into effect in 2028.

01:26:49.000 At least 20 states are considering similar restrictions on food chemicals.

01:26:53.000 But West Virginia is the first to ban virtually all artificial dyes from foods sold statewide.

01:27:00.000 Quote. Everybody realizes that we've got to do something about food in general, said Adam Berkhammer, a Republican state rep who introduced the bill in February.

01:27:09.000 It quickly passed both legislative houses with broad bipartisan support.

01:27:14.000 Mr. Berkhammer said he hopes the law will improve the health of children in his state and spur other states to take similar actions.

01:27:21.000 California has passed similar measures, though they were narrower in scope.

01:27:26.000 One passed in 2023 banned four food additives statewide.

01:27:30.000 And 2024 banned artificial food dies from school meals.

01:27:34.000 I just want to say this is incredibly epic.

01:27:36.000 The economic opportunity for West Virginia knows no bounds at this point.

01:27:41.000 And while I have my beef with the state over their ridiculous Uber laws, I think we can get that stuff reversed.

01:27:47.000 This is massive.

01:27:48.000 We discussed what this means already.

01:27:50.000 Food tourism.

01:27:52.000 If you're a mom living in suburban Maryland, maybe you're in Hagerstown or you're in Frederick. 0.64

01:28:00.000 You are absolutely going to drive the 30 minutes to the supermarket in West Virginia where you know every single food item is going to be devoid of this garbage. 0.91

01:28:09.000 It's epic.

01:28:11.000 Look, if we're hanging out in the tri-state, Virginia, Maryland, West Virginia, and we want to go to a restaurant, you think I'm going to...

01:28:19.000 You know what I can't stand?

01:28:20.000 When we go to these diners, and Allison and I, my wife, we've gone around, none of them use real butter.

01:28:26.000 You sit down and you're like, I would like pancakes.

01:28:28.000 And they take the spray under the pan and I'm like, I don't want to eat that.

01:28:32.000 And then they hand you hydrolyzed soy or whatever, hydrogenated vegetable oil to spread with salt in it.

01:28:40.000 There are some places that give you little pads of butter, but you still know they're using weird aerosol cooking spray vegetable garbage.

01:28:46.000 Now, that's not being banned, but if it's got the preservatives, some of these preservatives, it will be, and they're very common.

01:28:53.000 More importantly, the food dyes are out.

01:28:55.000 So we went to...

01:28:57.000 They have a little farmer's market.

01:28:59.000 A farmer's market.

01:29:00.000 And they've got licorice.

01:29:03.000 And it's this farmhouse licorice.

01:29:06.000 It's like local distribution.

01:29:07.000 And it's got all the artificial dyes in it.

01:29:09.000 I think it might have even had the carmine color.

01:29:12.000 The cockineal mic paste.

01:29:14.000 Eat the bugs! 0.77

01:29:15.000 I'm stoked.

01:29:16.000 I'm so stoked on this.

01:29:17.000 Shout out to Patrick Morrissey.

01:29:18.000 Day one in office, he brought back religious exemptions.

01:29:22.000 For families.

01:29:23.000 So, you know, kids cannot get all the vaccines if you don't want to do that.

01:29:27.000 Even private schools in West Virginia are following the vaccine schedule.

01:29:30.000 He's actually neighbors.

01:29:32.000 We're neighbors.

01:29:33.000 Oh, sweet.

01:29:33.000 Yeah, he lives in the area.

01:29:35.000 To be fair, you know, a lot of people live in this area because the Eastern Panhandle is close to D.C. But they actually now, I think he's in Charleston, which is, you know, the capital.

01:29:45.000 So he probably has dual residency.

01:29:46.000 But all of the locals around, they all know him.

01:29:48.000 And they say he's fantastic.

01:29:50.000 When he won...

01:29:51.000 People out here were like, they almost couldn't believe it because it was, you know, remember when Obama was going to win and there was that narrative that it was actual change?

01:29:59.000 When Morrissey won and justice gets out, people were like, Morrissey's actually based.

01:30:03.000 And so he's held true to his word.

01:30:06.000 I was concerned because when the legislature passed this, they had a veto-proof majority, so it's like, what are you going to do anyway?

01:30:13.000 But I know the challenges.

01:30:16.000 When you are presented with all of these major food producers who are like, we generate billions in revenue in your state, and you are saying, we can't sell this product anymore, we're going to leave.

01:30:25.000 What does that mean for your schools, for your roads?

01:30:28.000 What does that mean for your supermarkets?

01:30:30.000 What are the costs going to turn into?

01:30:31.000 Who's going to replace that?

01:30:32.000 It's a very, very difficult decision.

01:30:34.000 But I'm going to tell you now, if you're listening, oh, the opportunity is endless.

01:30:40.000 West Virginia's got three years, just shy of three years.

01:30:45.000 To produce Fruit Loops without artificial dyes.

01:30:48.000 The question then becomes, will Kellogg's Post and these other companies actually do it?

01:30:52.000 They're going to go through a cost-benefit analysis.

01:30:54.000 How much money are we going to lose if we don't sell in West Virginia?

01:30:58.000 Is it $50 million a year?

01:31:00.000 Who knows?

01:31:01.000 Okay, how much will it cost to change and create a line of non-artificial food dye cereals?

01:31:08.000 It's going to be expensive to create that whole line.

01:31:10.000 Okay, how about changing it for the whole country?

01:31:13.000 It might cost us $40- $50 million to redo the recipe and get rid of the food dyes.

01:31:17.000 How much are we going to lose in sales?

01:31:19.000 Because we know people don't buy the dimmer, less vibrant colors.

01:31:25.000 That was the argument made by the food producers.

01:31:27.000 They created cereals without the artificial food dyes.

01:31:30.000 Sales went down.

01:31:31.000 People liked the colors, so they brought them back.

01:31:34.000 They're not going to abandon a billion in sales outside of West Virginia.

01:31:37.000 You know what that means?

01:31:38.000 Venture capitalists right now need to get on this.

01:31:42.000 You invest in West Virginia, you will own food production.

01:31:45.000 And it's food.

01:31:47.000 You can't lose.

01:31:48.000 It's guaranteed money.

01:31:49.000 Population's growing out here, too.

01:31:50.000 Good time to do it.

01:31:52.000 The houses are growing up through the ground overnight.

01:31:56.000 Sadly, I think West Virginia doesn't have the sway over the national regulatory scene that California does.

01:32:01.000 But it's the first domino.

01:32:03.000 And there's so many red states right now that if they follow...

01:32:07.000 West Virginia's lead on this, right?

01:32:10.000 They need to act in concert, create that critical mass.

01:32:13.000 The reason that California's been able to dictate terms for so long is because it's been such a big state.

01:32:17.000 What if red states actually worked together, right?

01:32:21.000 So 2028 is when this kicks in?

01:32:25.000 Imagine by the end of 2026, 13, 14, 15, 16 different red states had put in place Similar laws. 0.56

01:32:34.000 And Maha could really get involved in that.

01:32:36.000 You just need to make it more expensive and more expensive and more expensive for these people to not offer alternatives.

01:32:41.000 I want to stress, though, they banned Blue 1, Blue 2, Green 3, Yellow 5, Yellow 6, Red 40, Red 3. They didn't ban Carmine Color.

01:32:51.000 Dang. Oh, no.

01:32:52.000 So the bugs are still there.

01:32:53.000 The bugs will still be available for consumption.

01:32:55.000 Man, I have a feeling the bugs are actually not as bad for you as people think.

01:32:59.000 They sound gross.

01:33:00.000 Agreed. But I have a feeling that it's probably not terrible for you.

01:33:03.000 They're bugs, and it sounds gross, but they're animals.

01:33:06.000 Better than petroleum byproducts.

01:33:08.000 It's better than that yellow that comes from tar or whatever it is, right? 1.00

01:33:11.000 Tartrazine. Tartrazine, that's it.

01:33:13.000 So, butylated hydrox...

01:33:15.000 People don't even have to consider eating the bugs, because the food's healthy.

01:33:18.000 It's un-American to eat bugs, okay?

01:33:19.000 Mutilated hydroxyanosal, BHA, prevents fats from going rancid, has been banned.

01:33:26.000 And it looks like propylparaben was banned in 2020.

01:33:31.000 Oh, no.

01:33:32.000 West Virginia will...

01:33:33.000 Yeah.

01:33:34.000 Propylparaben was banned at Propylparaben in California.

01:33:37.000 It's used in tortilla chips, processed cheese, and packaged baked goods.

01:33:43.000 Did you guys know what propylene glycol is?

01:33:46.000 No. So we used that at O'Hare Airport to de-ice planes.

01:33:51.000 Ethylene glycol, more commonly known as antifreeze.

01:33:54.000 Propylene glycol is a bit different.

01:33:56.000 We had two mixtures.

01:33:57.000 We had a 50-50 concentration, and then we had, I think we had a 100% concentration.

01:34:03.000 I could be wrong.

01:34:04.000 So what you do is, you get the orange and the green, right?

01:34:07.000 You get up in a big cherry picker on a truck.

01:34:09.000 I used to do this, what I did for a living, it was fun.

01:34:11.000 And you'd wear crazy gear in a blizzard, and we'd grab the hose, and we'd open it up and blast the plane, just the whole wing, just with this orange sludge, which was heated 50-50 glycol water mixture.

01:34:25.000 The reason why you use the glycol is it doesn't freeze.

01:34:28.000 Antifreeze, right?

01:34:29.000 It's not ethylene glycol.

01:34:30.000 It's not the kind that kills dogs.

01:34:32.000 And then the thicker mixture was a sludge, a cold sludge, which you'd put on afterwards.

01:34:37.000 You'd hit a lever or whatever.

01:34:39.000 And this would stop ice from forming on the plane for a certain amount of time.

01:34:43.000 So it's like a wax?

01:34:44.000 Like a car wax, basically?

01:34:46.000 It seals it?

01:34:47.000 Like a gel.

01:34:48.000 A gel that sits on the way.

01:34:49.000 No, no, no.

01:34:49.000 A gel, but the purpose is to seal it from ice.

01:34:52.000 No, it's to coat it in a gel that can't freeze.

01:34:55.000 Okay. So it falls off.

01:34:57.000 It schloughs off.

01:34:58.000 It's like, it's, it's, um, I don't know.

01:35:01.000 It's not like Jell-O.

01:35:02.000 It's, it's, it's, it's a good gel, you know?

01:35:04.000 And, um, they put it in food.

01:35:07.000 They put it in your, your, your baked goods.

01:35:09.000 You go to the gas station, you grab.

01:35:11.000 So they added it to baked goods to simulate fat.

01:35:15.000 And a lot of what we do.

01:35:17.000 With our food simulates fat.

01:35:19.000 So right now there's concerns colon cancer is skyrocketing among millennials.

01:35:24.000 One theory is that the gum we add to all of our foods, there's gelin gum, there's guar gum.

01:35:30.000 What's the other one?

01:35:32.000 Xanthan gum.

01:35:32.000 There's another one.

01:35:33.000 It's up to the T, I think.

01:35:36.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:35:37.000 But the argument is these things are not food, but they add a thickness to the food.

01:35:44.000 So it gets jammed up in your colon.

01:35:47.000 Causing absorption problems, causing disorders and obesity and cancers is one theory.

01:35:54.000 We put that in to simulate fat.

01:35:57.000 So I have this really great coconut milk that I love.

01:36:00.000 I'm not going to drag them.

01:36:01.000 They put gallon gum in it.

01:36:03.000 And so we decided to stop buying it because I'm like, look, you take a coconut, you give me the coconut meat from the inside and the coconut milk, the water, and I'll make something with it.

01:36:12.000 But they want it to be thicker, like regular milk, which is thick because of fat and calcium.

01:36:17.000 Largely fat.

01:36:18.000 Cream. Yep.

01:36:20.000 Gotta get rid of all of it.

01:36:21.000 They are poisoning all of our foods.

01:36:23.000 I recommend you all look up propylene glycol and ask yourselves if you want to eat it.

01:36:27.000 They say it's safe to eat, but...

01:36:29.000 Let's get the fluoride out of the water, too.

01:36:31.000 I mean, just because it's safe to eat doesn't mean you want to eat it.

01:36:34.000 Right? I mean, I don't...

01:36:37.000 Have any strong desire to eat propylene glycol?

01:36:41.000 That is how it's described.

01:36:44.000 It's described as viscous.

01:36:45.000 There we go.

01:36:47.000 Yep. Sounds delicious.

01:36:52.000 Yep. It's used as a food additive.

01:36:54.000 It's considered as GRAS by the FDA.

01:36:58.000 Generally recognized as safe.

01:37:00.000 That's going to get banned.

01:37:02.000 Good. RFK Jr. said he was going to be taking away the grass exemption.

01:37:05.000 Great. So they're going to...

01:37:07.000 Dude, it is wild that propylene glycol is approved as a vehicle for topical, oral, and some intravenous pharmaceutical preparations.

01:37:17.000 It's used as a food, whatever, industrial uses.

01:37:22.000 It's mainly produced from propylene oxide, but I don't care about its production.

01:37:27.000 Tell me what they use it for.

01:37:29.000 45% of propylene glycol produced is used as chemical feedstock for the production of unsaturated polyester resins.

01:37:35.000 In this regard, propylene glycol reacts with the mixture of unsaturated malleic anhydride and esophallic acid to give a copolymer.

01:37:48.000 This partially unsaturated polymer undergoes further cross-linking to yield thermoset plastics.

01:37:54.000 Related to the application, propylene glycol reacts with propylene oxide to give oligomers.

01:37:58.000 If you know what these things are, I have no idea what's going on. 0.99

01:38:01.000 None of this shit should be in the human system. 0.98

01:38:04.000 It's used as an anti-caking agent, an emulsifier, a flavor agent, humectant, texturizer, stabilizer, solvent, antioxidant, really, antimicrobial and thickener. 1.00

01:38:15.000 I think it's disgusting.

01:38:17.000 And it's antifreeze.

01:38:18.000 See, I told you, this is what we used to do.

01:38:20.000 See this little thing?

01:38:20.000 I used to do that.

01:38:22.000 You blast the plane.

01:38:23.000 It was a lot of fun.

01:38:24.000 Everybody wanted to do de-icing because it doesn't snow.

01:38:29.000 Snow doesn't come.

01:38:30.000 So you have to be on staff as a de-icer. 1.00

01:38:32.000 And so here's how it works.

01:38:34.000 You're in the union.

01:38:35.000 You make buddies with the head of the union.

01:38:37.000 That's what I did.

01:38:38.000 I made friends with one of the executive board members who eventually got elected vice president.

01:38:42.000 And then I said, the next rotation comes up.

01:38:44.000 I want to do de-icing.

01:38:45.000 He goes, done.

01:38:46.000 De-icing, you're usually just playing Xbox all day.

01:38:51.000 Then, if it snows, then you get to ride around in the top of a cherry picker, decked out in all this, like, you get a jumpsuit, you put it on, and then you blast the planes with a hose.

01:38:59.000 It's one of the easier jobs to do, and it's a lot of fun.

01:39:02.000 You have, like, this big fire hose, and one guy told me a story where his buddy was walking down, like, the pathway, and he blasted him with hot propylene glycol and just drenched him with it.

01:39:13.000 And we were like, and then, uh...

01:39:16.000 The guy training us on it was like, you know, they say it's fine to eat.

01:39:21.000 And we all just looked at each other like, is that guy okay?

01:39:24.000 Like, he got blasted with an industrial antifreeze?

01:39:27.000 He's a superhero now.

01:39:28.000 I don't know, he's probably got cancer.

01:39:31.000 It's one or the other.

01:39:32.000 Oh, wait, what?

01:39:34.000 They use it for vape?

01:39:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:39:37.000 Propylene glycol is aerosolized to resemble smoke.

01:39:41.000 Veterinary medicine? 0.52

01:39:43.000 Freezing point.

01:39:43.000 What are you smoking there?

01:39:44.000 Tobacco? What about you?

01:39:46.000 Antifreeze? Huh.

01:39:48.000 Aerosolized antifreeze.

01:39:49.000 Which one do you think is healthier?

01:39:50.000 What was the one go down for preserving insects or something?

01:39:54.000 Wait, what?

01:39:54.000 I missed it.

01:39:55.000 Preserving insects?

01:39:56.000 I was reading like half of it and it disappeared.

01:39:58.000 What's humectant mean?

01:40:00.000 A hygroscopic water absorbing substance used to keep things moist.

01:40:05.000 Yep. There you go.

01:40:08.000 That's why they put it in baked goods in the grocery store because it feels like it's moist like cake when it actually should be disgusting.

01:40:15.000 For trapping and preserving insects.

01:40:17.000 Which one?

01:40:18.000 You were just on it.

01:40:19.000 It's like right there.

01:40:19.000 Oh, right there.

01:40:21.000 Including as a DNA preservative.

01:40:23.000 Wow. Oh, these are for smoke machines.

01:40:26.000 Man, this is some pretty good stuff.

01:40:28.000 When used in average quantities, propylene glycol is no measurable effect on the development and or reproduction on animals.

01:40:33.000 And probably does not adversely affect human development or reproduction without active use.

01:40:38.000 What does that mean?

01:40:38.000 I call BS.

01:40:40.000 Safety of electronic cigarettes.

01:40:42.000 It must be the opposite.

01:40:44.000 The safety of electronic cigarettes, which utilize propylene glycol-based preparations of nicotine or THC and other cannabinoids, is the subject of much controversy.

01:40:52.000 Vitamin E acetate has also been identified in this controversy.

01:40:55.000 I see LD50 there, which is the name of a mud vein album. 1.00

01:40:58.000 I just want to throw that out there.

01:40:59.000 Take America Healthy again.

01:41:00.000 Let's go.

01:41:01.000 Yeah. So does anyone know, I know somewhat of, you know, seed oils started as oil to lubricate heavy machinery.

01:41:10.000 Canola, I think it's canola specifically, right?

01:41:12.000 Canola, yeah, okay.

01:41:13.000 So who's the wise guy who started applying these compounds, these materials to food?

01:41:20.000 Like, I really don't, I haven't read anything on that.

01:41:23.000 I'm not super up on all the Maha stuff.

01:41:25.000 But these applications to food, I mean, for someone to be like, hmm.

01:41:30.000 I'm going to lubricate my machine with this, and then I'm going to take a swig of it.

01:41:33.000 That seems insane to me.

01:41:34.000 Well, I don't know if anybody takes swigs of it.

01:41:36.000 I know, but how anyone got here in the first place?

01:41:39.000 Are you familiar with sucralose?

01:41:41.000 No. Splenda?

01:41:42.000 Yeah, yeah, okay.

01:41:43.000 Splenda's a brand name for sucralose.

01:41:45.000 As the story goes, what I can't say is definitively true, because we've looked it up and we've put it on the show, a research student had mixed chlorine with sugar, and the professor or whatever said, test it.

01:42:00.000 And he thought he said, taste it, so he tasted it and said it's sweet.

01:42:02.000 My understanding is that they're trying to make a pesticide.

01:42:05.000 By combining chlorine with sugar, the sugar would attract insects and the chlorine would kill them.

01:42:11.000 And then we decided, hey!

01:42:13.000 Why don't we put this in little packets and put it in all our food?

01:42:15.000 People are like insects.

01:42:17.000 That's how they think.

01:42:18.000 It's like when they wanted fluoride in the water.

01:42:20.000 They were like, it'll fix the cavities.

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01:43:04.000 Jamie Brockodile says, hilarious that the feminist Snow White goes against everything Disney stands for. 1.00

01:43:09.000 She dedicates her life to doing what her white male father told her to do, literally bowing down to the patriarchy.

01:43:17.000 You guys saw that feminist Snow White bombed? 0.82

01:43:20.000 Yes. Miserably?

01:43:21.000 Not surprised.

01:43:23.000 Mercifully. So apparently, after they started making it, Peter Dinklage said, you're bigots for having dwarves.

01:43:30.000 So they decided to go with the Seven Companions instead.

01:43:33.000 Then everyone mocked them.

01:43:35.000 So they said, we've got to do the dwarves, but what do we do with all this footage we paid for of seven racially and gender diverse companions?

01:43:42.000 Both! They did both.

01:43:45.000 Amazing. So there's two groups of weird seven people, and it's like, that's not Snow White, I guess.

01:43:50.000 And then Snow White, there's no prince. 0.97

01:43:53.000 He's a dirtbag leftist. 0.97

01:43:55.000 That's actually what the left has been calling him. 0.98

01:43:57.000 Like a male feminist type? 0.99

01:43:58.000 No, he's a dirtbag leftist. 0.99

01:43:59.000 He's like... 0.98

01:44:01.000 It's like dirtbag leftists are anti-woke, but they're far left, anti-establishment.

01:44:07.000 Gotcha. Yeah, and so I don't really know if dirtbag leftists are from it. 0.60

01:44:11.000 Like Destiny?

01:44:12.000 Um, I don't know.

01:44:14.000 Would you describe Destiny?

01:44:15.000 I just hear dirtbag and think that.

01:44:16.000 I could be wrong.

01:44:17.000 No, they're like Antifa types, but they don't get down with all the weird racial stuff.

01:44:22.000 Okay. So they're anarchists who want to firebomb things.

01:44:25.000 They're like black bloc activists during the Occupy movement, I guess.

01:44:29.000 I got you.

01:44:29.000 It's like the weird progressive gender stuff is like, what are you talking about?

01:44:33.000 They're about class. 0.97

01:44:35.000 But he convinces her to run away and lead a revolt against the evil fascist queen. 0.77

01:44:41.000 And then Snow White defeats the queen by reminding the guards of what their names are.

01:44:47.000 She says, like, your name is this.

01:44:50.000 Remember what it used to be like?

01:44:51.000 And then the guards turn on the evil queen who then kills herself.

01:44:54.000 Wow. She like runs away and then smashes the mirror killing herself. 1.00

01:44:57.000 Wow. Sounds great. 0.76

01:44:59.000 Yeah. Yeah.

01:45:00.000 I didn't see it.

01:45:01.000 It's super cringe.

01:45:02.000 They canceled the red carpet.

01:45:04.000 The theaters were all empty.

01:45:06.000 People were posting videos of their theater ticket screens and it's like there's no seats purchased.

01:45:10.000 People were filming empty theaters.

01:45:12.000 I feel kind of bad because this arrogant Rachel Zegler didn't understand.

01:45:16.000 She thought what she was doing was popular but they don't get it.

01:45:19.000 And she's got this viral video where she says, to all the haters out there, to everybody who's trying to bring me down, I just hope that when I make a movie or music or whatever, people wait in line to see me.

01:45:31.000 Yeah. Yep.

01:45:34.000 That one hurts.

01:45:36.000 Yeah. Super Pooper says, Elad is a communist.

01:45:40.000 Too bad he's not here.

01:45:41.000 Yep. String Raider says, why isn't the Leprechaun holding a spoon?

01:45:46.000 Oh, that's referring to Luck of the Seamus over at Casperu.com.

01:45:51.000 Happy Gilmore says, my first rant on Rumble.

01:45:53.000 Amazing that more people are viewing on Rumble than YouTube.

01:45:56.000 We are winning.

01:45:58.000 Indeed. So the audience is split a little bit.

01:46:00.000 A lot of people from YouTube went over to Rumble instead.

01:46:02.000 We have about 45,000 on Rumble and 35,000 on YouTube.

01:46:06.000 So still very big, very big numbers.

01:46:09.000 When we did the deal with Rumble and we started promoting the show on Rumble, Our viewership just spiked because the Rumble audience is a different group of people.

01:46:18.000 And now many people from the YouTube have switched to Rumble, but we still have a strong YouTube presence.

01:46:23.000 There are a lot of people who are very confused because they thought Steven Crowder's announcement about getting off YouTube applied to TimCast IRL.

01:46:31.000 It did not.

01:46:32.000 And I said that from the get-go.

01:46:34.000 The Tim Pool Morning Show Live is exclusive to Rumble, but TimCast IRL is available on all platforms.

01:46:40.000 You know, I think the main issue is that the morning show is kind of, you know, I started doing live streams this year.

01:46:48.000 I did some last year and decided I would do a 10 a.m. live stream.

01:46:51.000 We moved it to noon again.

01:46:52.000 But this is just me by myself, where I just go live and do a segment I would normally do.

01:46:57.000 So there's no real issue with us just saying, you know, there is an audience there, but they haven't been subscribed to this channel for years, specifically for a live show.

01:47:06.000 Whereas with Timcast IRL...

01:47:08.000 We've got people who have listened to the show for five years now who watch on the YouTube TV app.

01:47:13.000 And if we just blanket switched over, they would just be left confused and not know what was going on.

01:47:18.000 So we're going to keep both up for the time being, but the morning show will be exclusive.

01:47:22.000 Last time I was here, you guys were talking about the YouTube Rumble balance.

01:47:27.000 You're like, ah, we've done a lot to invest in YouTube.

01:47:30.000 So to see the Rumble doing crazy numbers like that, like, good for you guys.

01:47:32.000 That's awesome.

01:47:33.000 Well, see, here's the thing.

01:47:34.000 Rumble is actively trying to promote video podcasts.

01:47:37.000 Yeah. YouTube is actively trying to suppress video podcast.

01:47:40.000 I think YouTube may have turned around when they realized the power of podcasting.

01:47:44.000 But, dude, for 10 years, YouTube was doing everything in their power to crush video podcasts.

01:47:50.000 They were like, uh-oh, what's going on?

01:47:51.000 Why are people talking about politics?

01:47:52.000 We don't want this.

01:47:53.000 It's bad for advertising.

01:47:54.000 And so they started demonetizing people, suspending people, banning channels.

01:47:58.000 Now, whoopsie, Spotify is desperately trying to get in the game.

01:48:03.000 Rumble existed and adopted and said, you want to get rid of these video podcast shows?

01:48:07.000 We'll take them.

01:48:08.000 And now they have the biggest shows in the world.

01:48:12.000 So I will say, all right, Dan Bongino had the biggest live stream in the world and one of the biggest podcasts in the world.

01:48:20.000 I'm pretty sure Dan Bongino, who since left to go serve the public, I'm pretty sure he had the biggest live stream show in the world.

01:48:28.000 I could be wrong.

01:48:29.000 Definitely the United States.

01:48:30.000 But he was averaging 150,000 to 170,000 concurrence.

01:48:34.000 And yeah, he had 3.5 million subscribers.

01:48:38.000 So he consistently was hitting the biggest show in the world.

01:48:40.000 Steven Crowder now is getting the biggest show in the country.

01:48:43.000 I'm not sure of the world, though.

01:48:44.000 There may be some Asian video gamers who get way more.

01:48:47.000 And Kai Sinat regularly gets 300,000.

01:48:50.000 But Crowder rivals that with a more consistent basis.

01:48:53.000 But I can say, at least in terms of news, Rumble has all of the biggest cultural and political shows.

01:48:58.000 100%. So with the launch of the Rumble morning lineup, this morning I had 77,000 concurrent viewers watching.

01:49:05.000 It's kind of crazy to see those numbers at any one time.

01:49:07.000 And then the shows are getting half a million per episode now, five days a week.

01:49:11.000 It's nuts.

01:49:12.000 Same thing for Jeremy Hambly and Viva Frye. 0.93

01:49:13.000 The viewership is skyrocketing because Rumble is actively trying to promote and build up a space that Spotify is also desperately trying to build up and that YouTube actively suppressed.

01:49:25.000 Whoopsie! That rocks.

01:49:27.000 Shout out Dan Bongino for believing in the project, too.

01:49:30.000 Yep. Yeah, man.

01:49:31.000 Yep. And the big question now is, of course, YouTube is a major player with billions of views, but those views are largely Mr. Beast.

01:49:38.000 They're entertaining vlogs from people like Mr. Beast.

01:49:42.000 Video podcasting, cable network is done.

01:49:44.000 Cable TV is done.

01:49:46.000 Where will the average person go to consume audio-based news and culture?

01:49:52.000 It's going to be video podcasts.

01:49:56.000 You compare Timcast IRL numbers to like Mr. Beast or some of these other shows.

01:50:01.000 I look at some of these other YouTube creators and they get like 5 million views on one video they make, but they do like one a week because they're like highly produced.

01:50:10.000 It's interesting to see that with less viewerships in the political space, you make substantially more money because it's like a pyramid.

01:50:17.000 If you do an entertainment show like gaming, you're going to get a massive audience of generalists.

01:50:22.000 They're going to watch you play a video game.

01:50:24.000 When you're talking about politics, it's particularly esoteric.

01:50:26.000 But politics controls everything.

01:50:29.000 So specific ad rates can be way more valuable when you're talking politics.

01:50:34.000 It's an interesting space to be in right now.

01:50:35.000 That's cool.

01:50:36.000 And I bet somebody got fired at YouTube.

01:50:39.000 For real, I bet there's executives being like, you mean all of the big video podcasts?

01:50:43.000 There was nothing else.

01:50:44.000 It was just YouTube.

01:50:46.000 Now it's YouTube, Spotify, and Rumble.

01:50:49.000 And then, not to mention, there's other platforms too.

01:50:52.000 There's places like BitChute. 1.00

01:50:54.000 And X is trying to get into the space.

01:50:56.000 YouTube had a monopoly on video podcasting.

01:50:58.000 And they gave it away.

01:51:00.000 They actually battered their monopoly and got rid of it.

01:51:04.000 That blew my mind.

01:51:05.000 But hey, so be it.

01:51:05.000 That's what you do, YouTube.

01:51:07.000 Congrats. The interesting thing now is this next year in advertising is going to be real crazy.

01:51:15.000 With Rumble hitting these massive numbers and having the biggest shows in the country, it's going to be a game changer.

01:51:22.000 Yeah. We'll see, though.

01:51:24.000 Beware of soda.

01:51:25.000 We'll grab some Super Chats.

01:51:28.000 All right, what do we have here?

01:51:30.000 Brad Matuzik says, The Atlantic goes on to state additional facilitating strike team members on the thread to include Hawk, Duke, Flint, and Beachhead.

01:51:41.000 Is that a joke?

01:51:43.000 Is that a TV show reference?

01:51:44.000 Those are G.I. Joe characters.

01:51:46.000 Okay, I figured.

01:51:47.000 There you go.

01:51:48.000 At least that or top one or something, yeah.

01:51:52.000 ZanyZan says, BigFantin, can I get a shout-out to Sylvia in Mexico?

01:51:56.000 Shout-out, Sylvia. 1.00

01:51:58.000 Mexico's great.

01:51:59.000 I love Mexico.

01:52:00.000 They got Buffalo Wild Wings.

01:52:01.000 Just don't come up here.

01:52:02.000 Just stay in Mexico, Sylvia. 0.98

01:52:05.000 We don't want anything bad to happen to you, Sylvia.

01:52:08.000 All right.

01:52:09.000 Minimat says, Ex-Sam's cashier, 98% accuracy.

01:52:13.000 You can guess, form of payment, cart mostly empty, essential goods, food cash debit, cart.

01:52:18.000 What is this about?

01:52:18.000 I don't know what you mean.

01:52:19.000 Prices are going down?

01:52:21.000 Is that the point?

01:52:22.000 There was a viral post from Reddit where someone said something as strange as going on.

01:52:26.000 Costco prices are dropping dramatically.

01:52:29.000 How is this possible?

01:52:30.000 This shouldn't be happening.

01:52:31.000 And it's like, uh-oh.

01:52:34.000 Uh-oh.

01:52:35.000 I mean, good things for the economy or, you know, bad things for the left.

01:52:38.000 Trump just got a voter for 2028.

01:52:40.000 I know, right?

01:52:42.000 Liber8USA says, I just want to thank Tim for pronouncing my name correctly in previous episodes.

01:52:46.000 Indeed. Liberate says, got an actual question.

01:52:49.000 Can you start doing a Saturday show once a month only on Rumble Premium?

01:52:53.000 I really need y'all some weekends.

01:52:55.000 So here's the plan.

01:52:57.000 The first Culture War Live is set for the beginning of May.

01:53:02.000 We're doing it as a pilot, so we're doing it low budget.

01:53:05.000 I actually asked the team if you want to do ultra-high budget.

01:53:07.000 It's like, let's just get a big casino venue and sell tickets and get a thousand seats or some ridiculous amount.

01:53:12.000 And everyone's like, no, no, no, we should do a pilot.

01:53:15.000 So we're going to have like 40 or 50 seats.

01:53:17.000 We're going to do a debate.

01:53:19.000 Members of TimCast.com Discord will be able to come up on stage and join at the table with us and debate us.

01:53:26.000 You're going to be vetted.

01:53:27.000 As members, you'll RSVP.

01:53:29.000 The tickets will be free, but you got to be a member.

01:53:31.000 So sign up for a member, $10 a month for at least six months or $25 to start right away.

01:53:37.000 You can then submit your debate concept, a single sentence, a couple sentences, whatever.

01:53:42.000 We will then have someone at the crew or maybe even the Discord.

01:53:47.000 I think maybe we'll do it that way.

01:53:48.000 They can vote on who they think should actually come up and debate.

01:53:51.000 No, maybe not, because we might need diversity in terms of the people, not leftist diversity.

01:53:58.000 We need different people every week.

01:54:00.000 But then you'll come up, and I think we're going to do five people over the two hours from the members who will come and join us to debate on stage.

01:54:08.000 When we do this, these will be held on Saturday nights, which means...

01:54:11.000 There will be a Friday morning news show.

01:54:13.000 Culture War will move to a different time slot we need to figure out.

01:54:16.000 And then there will be bonus segments on the weekend from the Timcast morning show.

01:54:20.000 So we've got big plans where I'm going to be doing substantially more work and having substantially less time off.

01:54:25.000 And my wife is going to get very mad when she finds out. 1.00

01:54:28.000 No one tell her.

01:54:31.000 No, she knows.

01:54:32.000 She's actually doing the work to help plan it and set it all up. 0.98

01:54:34.000 She's actually submitting a debate prompt, which is, why the heck would you work this much?

01:54:40.000 She's actually upset because now that we just had the baby, she has mom work. 0.66

01:54:44.000 Congratulations. Thank you very much.

01:54:45.000 But mom work is tough work. 1.00

01:54:46.000 It's very tough work.

01:54:48.000 And it offends me that so many feminists disparage the mom work stuff. 1.00

01:54:53.000 Dad work seems chill.

01:54:55.000 It offends me that so many feminists... 1.00

01:54:58.000 Yes. But like, dad work is hard work too.

01:55:02.000 Of course, of course.

01:55:02.000 And so, you know, I'm going to go and do the shows.

01:55:05.000 I'm going to do a morning show and a night show.

01:55:07.000 We're going to bring home the bacon.

01:55:08.000 But mom work is taking care of a creature that cries bloody murder for literally anything. 1.00

01:55:14.000 And it is funny because I know there's a lot of people who've had way more kids than I and have been through this.

01:55:18.000 But as a new dad, I had this funny idea for a skit where I was just imagining.

01:55:22.000 Could you imagine if every adult human handled their problems the way a baby does?

01:55:28.000 Like, a guy's at work, and his coffee's empty, and he looks up, and just starts bashing his face, screaming, ah!

01:55:34.000 So leftists.

01:55:35.000 Exactly. That's exactly what Allison said.

01:55:37.000 Nice. She was like, leftists, and I was like, hey!

01:55:40.000 Good job, Allison, yeah.

01:55:40.000 They're like babies.

01:55:42.000 Everyone just walking around, screaming at the top of their lungs until someone refills their coffee.

01:55:45.000 That's hilarious.

01:55:46.000 But I love my baby, and it's just, when she cries bloody murder, I'm just laughing, because I'm like, You know, to the baby, this is the end of the world.

01:55:57.000 Literally the worst thing that has ever happened.

01:55:59.000 Exactly. Because there's only like three things that have happened.

01:56:02.000 Exactly. So she's screaming and beet red and I'm like, she just wants to drink a protein shake. 1.00

01:56:07.000 It's so cute.

01:56:09.000 Yeah. We're trying the goat milk protein shakes because we have the hipster baby. 0.99

01:56:13.000 Nice. That's what we did with our first goat milk.

01:56:14.000 Goat milk, yep.

01:56:15.000 Because... Some babies, there's concern that they can't digest the cow proteins that are in it or whatever.

01:56:20.000 That's what our firstborn had.

01:56:22.000 He couldn't digest the cow protein, so there was blood in the stool.

01:56:26.000 And goat milk fixed it.

01:56:27.000 We didn't have anything like that.

01:56:30.000 Baby just might have an upset stomach. 1.00

01:56:31.000 And so they just recommended we try goat milk and see if that makes a difference.

01:56:35.000 But for the most part, we're trying not to use formula.

01:56:38.000 Yeah. There's a lot of bad stuff in formula.

01:56:40.000 Yes, there is.

01:56:41.000 And there's like old formula companies that were good that were bought by bigger companies and they put the bad stuff in it.

01:56:45.000 Probably like the stuff they pour on airplanes in Chicago.

01:56:48.000 I recommend people have as many babies as they can.

01:56:50.000 Have lots of babies.

01:56:51.000 Agreed. As many as you can.

01:56:53.000 Maybe for some people it's 12. Maybe for some people it's one.

01:56:55.000 Yeah. DJ Watson says, I love all your shows, but IRL is my favorite by far.

01:57:00.000 If you wouldn't mind shouting out my buddy's new company, mankybusiness.com selling Japanese Pokemon cards.

01:57:06.000 One of the few places in the US.

01:57:07.000 There you go.

01:57:08.000 It's crazy how valuable Pokemon cards are.

01:57:11.000 I once had a whole bunch of first edition Charizards.

01:57:14.000 I guess that's like millions of dollars that are gone.

01:57:17.000 Shucks. It's like those Bitcoin you lost in that computer.

01:57:21.000 That's true.

01:57:22.000 It's crazy.

01:57:23.000 Hoard everything.

01:57:24.000 Just never throw anything away because you never know.

01:57:27.000 I got all mine since I was a kid still locked up somewhere.

01:57:31.000 I think that collection is like $10,000 at some point at this point.

01:57:33.000 It's going to pay for my kids going to college.

01:57:37.000 Well, I mean, you're 27. Yeah.

01:57:40.000 No, I had like first generation, second generation cards.

01:57:44.000 Like the first original edition or whatever?

01:57:46.000 I mean, not like the Japanese one. 0.99

01:57:48.000 No, no, no, but like the first set that came out.

01:57:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:51.000 Because you would have been a baby.

01:57:52.000 Yeah. I know.

01:57:53.000 I got all these a year or two later when it wasn't a big thing.

01:57:58.000 So you were like one or two?

01:57:59.000 No, I was really young when I got into it.

01:58:00.000 I would say I was like four when I started liking Pokemon.

01:58:05.000 Yeah, because I remember when it came out, and I think I was like 10 or 11, and so I had tons of Pokemon cards.

01:58:11.000 I was playing Magic the Gathering before that, and I had a binder with a bunch of Charizards in it.

01:58:15.000 Who didn't?

01:58:16.000 Everybody had a bunch of Charizards.

01:58:17.000 Now they're worth $250,000.

01:58:18.000 Do you think my Pogs are worth anything?

01:58:20.000 Yes. Really?

01:58:21.000 For real?

01:58:22.000 What is that?

01:58:23.000 Phil's trying to shoot it down.

01:58:24.000 You don't know what hogs are? 1.00

01:58:26.000 I have this idea.

01:58:27.000 The greatest sports ever.

01:58:28.000 I got an idea.

01:58:29.000 This is a shout out to everybody watching right now.

01:58:32.000 My idea.

01:58:34.000 I want to open a hotel.

01:58:36.000 Maybe a Vrbo Airbnb.

01:58:38.000 That's going to have...

01:58:39.000 It probably would just have five rooms.

01:58:43.000 One room.

01:58:44.000 It's the 1950s.

01:58:46.000 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s.

01:58:49.000 You go into the 80s hotel room.

01:58:51.000 You book it.

01:58:52.000 Everything is from the 80s.

01:58:53.000 80s couch, 80s TV.

01:58:54.000 You turn the TV on, it's analog TV, and it will literally play a, like, I think the max we would do is like three days, but it'll actually play, we'll get a, like an Arduino or a Raspberry Pi or something.

01:59:07.000 Not an Arduino, a Raspberry Pi.

01:59:08.000 And we will have it play television from that period, and you will actually turn the dial, UHF, VHF.

01:59:15.000 And you can watch in real time at 7am here in New York.

01:59:18.000 You're watching and then whatever news program with the actual news program of that time.

01:59:21.000 The windows will be TV screens that you will be able to look out and you will be in like when you look out when you look into the screen in the window it looks like you're in 1980s New York or whatever or wherever it might be.

01:59:35.000 So this has been I've had this idea for like eight years just need somebody who wants to do it.

01:59:41.000 We got the Capitol.

01:59:42.000 The concern is in all seriousness Do you know what the biggest concern with this is?

01:59:47.000 The reason why I bring this up?

01:59:48.000 The amount of money that it would cost to set up those rooms.

01:59:50.000 Absolutely not.

01:59:51.000 No? No way.

01:59:52.000 Super easy.

01:59:53.000 We'd have delivery menus on the fridge from, like, 1980s Pizza Hut, and we'll actually have a guy deliver it to you dressed in the old uniform with the old Coke and everything.

02:00:03.000 I was imagining all the, like, original nice stuff from then.

02:00:06.000 Money's no problem.

02:00:07.000 A business costs money, and people will pay to go there.

02:00:10.000 What's the biggest problem?

02:00:14.000 No ideas?

02:00:15.000 Nope. Nope.

02:00:17.000 You can pick up the phone and actually die. 0.98

02:00:18.000 The biggest problem is suicides.

02:00:20.000 That's why I say the pogs are so valuable.

02:00:23.000 The actual consideration, and it's not a joke, is that there's going to be some guy who's 50, and he's going to book the 1980s room, and his wife divorced him, and he's going to be sitting in the 1980s remembering when he was a young man and life was good, and he's going to be crying himself, and then...

02:00:39.000 So we don't know how to handle...

02:00:41.000 You can transition to like a maid program like in Canada.

02:00:44.000 No, let's not.

02:00:45.000 Like a nicer suicide pod for people.

02:00:48.000 Let's not.

02:00:49.000 When I brought this up to my buddies in business, they said an intense nostalgia like that will attract people who are desperate and sad.

02:00:57.000 Oh, wow.

02:00:58.000 And you may end up with people who are in rough times wanting to re-experience a moment of happiness.

02:01:03.000 And then you may have a higher density of suicides and self-harm than any other business.

02:01:08.000 How morbid.

02:01:09.000 Well, that escalated quickly.

02:01:11.000 Reminded me of the suicide forest in Japan.

02:01:13.000 You see?

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