Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump Admin Preparing INVASION OF CUBA, Say Iran War ALMOST OVER| Timcast IRL

00:02:44.000 The Trump admin is preparing for an invasion of Cuba because we just can't get enough.

00:02:49.000 Trump did an interview.

00:02:50.000 He said the war in Iran is almost over.

00:02:52.000 This morning he said the strait is open and we're making China very, very happy.

00:02:57.000 And I honestly, I just, I don't know what to believe at this point.

00:03:00.000 I have whiplash from Trump saying it's open, it's closed, the war is over, the ceasefire.

00:03:04.000 And we just have no idea.

00:03:05.000 I actually think Trump's plan at this point is to just keep going back and forth so everybody spins around, gets real dizzy, and has no idea what's happening.

00:03:12.000 Now, in the meantime, apparently there are concerns that Donald Trump wants an invasion of Cuba.

00:03:17.000 So, his administration has actually been drafting up plans for this invasion, which we all know the American people are hungry for.

00:03:24.000 We've wanted Cuba back forever.

00:03:25.000 And actually, I think most people don't care all that much.

00:03:28.000 And then, this may be the bigger story Tom Steyer, who's now the front runner for governor in California after Eric Swallow had to drop out because he was accused of drugging and raping several women.

00:03:28.000 We'll talk about that.

00:03:37.000 Holy crap. 1.00

00:03:38.000 Well, at least drugging and raping one of them. 0.99

00:03:41.000 The rest of them, I don't know what happened, but apparently they were drunk too.

00:03:44.000 So, anyway, Tom Steyer says he's going to put ICE in jail.

00:03:47.000 When ICE comes to California, if he's governor, he's going to arrest and put them in jail.

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00:06:17.000 Yes, sir.

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00:06:49.000 What's up?

00:06:49.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:06:50.000 We got Tate Brown holding it down.

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00:06:53.000 Happy New Year.

00:06:55.000 What's up, everyone?

00:06:56.000 Let's get into it.

00:06:57.000 Here's the story from The Independent.

00:06:59.000 Pentagon ramps up plans for a military operation in Cuba.

00:06:59.000 Oh, boy.

00:07:03.000 In case Trump orders direct intervention, report.

00:07:07.000 I love how they've caveated this to like this headline went through like five lawyers because the headline's actually simple.

00:07:15.000 Trump admin prepares for invasion of Cuba.

00:07:19.000 That's it.

00:07:20.000 The story is Trump has discussed he may want to take military action.

00:07:20.000 Okay.

00:07:25.000 So they have begun drafting plans for that military action.

00:07:29.000 But when they ramp up plans, okay, why are you saying it that way?

00:07:33.000 In case Trump orders, And they call it a military operation.

00:07:36.000 Their lawyers are like, we got to be really careful about this one.

00:07:39.000 They say two sources familiar with the matter told USA Today on Wednesday that contingency plans are being developed in case Trump orders an intervention on the island nation.

00:07:48.000 Sources also told Zetio earlier this week that the Pentagon was given a direct straight from the White House to prepare for possible military action in the Caribbean.

00:07:57.000 I'm going to tell you what this is right now, my friends.

00:07:59.000 This is what we call a trial balloon in the media.

00:08:02.000 These individuals who are leaking this story are not leaking this story.

00:08:06.000 In all likelihood, these sources were directed to contact a journalist and float the possibility of a military intervention in Cuba for two reasons.

00:08:14.000 One, to gauge the public response to the story.

00:08:17.000 And two, prepare the public for the eventuality.

00:08:21.000 If Trump were to launch an invasion right now, it would shock the public, markets would go crazy.

00:08:28.000 I would argue that maybe a month or two, they're planning on a full invasion, military operation into Cuba.

00:08:37.000 To be fair, things could change.

00:08:38.000 Let's say the Cuban government sees this and they say, guys, you're welcome to come in.

00:08:42.000 We don't want to fight.

00:08:43.000 Let's work a deal.

00:08:44.000 That might happen too.

00:08:45.000 So that's a potential other reason.

00:08:46.000 Trump wants this to be seen by Cuba.

00:08:48.000 So they panic and then call DC and say, what do you want?

00:08:52.000 We don't want this.

00:08:53.000 But I would argue the highest probability is they want the public to be aware of the possibility.

00:08:59.000 That way, when it does happen, they go, ah, he finally did it, as opposed to being caught off guard.

00:09:03.000 Yeah.

00:09:04.000 I mean, I think every time you see a leak out of the Pentagon with the sort of revamped security.

00:09:10.000 Obviously, like, you know, they kicked out of the old legacy media, et cetera, et cetera.

00:09:13.000 Any leak that comes out of the Pentagon is calculated.

00:09:16.000 At least that's my estimation.

00:09:17.000 In addition to that, it's kind of inevitable. 0.60

00:09:19.000 I think Cuba kind of feels inevitable if you just track like how the Trump administration has conducted or found it so far.

00:09:23.000 And look at the location.

00:09:24.000 It's right there.

00:09:25.000 I mean, hello, it's screaming out Hard Rock Cafe should be right there.

00:09:28.000 Well, and where has a great Cuban American population?

00:09:31.000 There's no Hard Rock Havana?

00:09:33.000 There's not a Hard Rock Havana.

00:09:34.000 It saddens me.

00:09:34.000 In addition to that, you have a secretary.

00:09:36.000 I mean, if you're talking about like score settling, the Secretary of State's literally a Cuban, his parents are Cuban records.

00:09:43.000 Rubio shows up and he just starts speaking Spanish, telling everybody he's in charge now.

00:09:46.000 He's going to do that.

00:09:47.000 And then he's going to wear like old classical Caribbean dictator garb.

00:09:50.000 It's going to be really, quite frankly, driving 1950s Ford.

00:09:52.000 It's going to be a beautiful thing.

00:09:54.000 And in addition to that, I mean, the Florida mafia kind of litters the Trump administration. 0.96

00:09:58.000 I mean, Susie Wiles is chief of staff. 1.00

00:09:59.000 She's Florida. 0.58

00:10:00.000 She's tapped the Florida network quite heavily for Trump administration staffing. 0.99

00:10:03.000 And in Florida, to play Florida politics, you got to please the Cuban American population there. 0.54

00:10:07.000 And obviously, this is a generational score settling that's probably going to go down. 0.54

00:10:12.000 So, I don't know.

00:10:13.000 I mean, the fact that they think it's like some off the wall, hidden, esoteric reporting, the fact that, yeah, Trump is looking at Cuba, it's like the most inevitable thing ever.

00:10:21.000 Here's the thing, though.

00:10:22.000 I bet the Trump admin could just go to Miami and then Trump himself would go to Miami, hold a rally, and just be like, How many Cubans here want to take back your country?

00:10:31.000 Here's a crate full of guns. 0.72

00:10:32.000 Grab one.

00:10:33.000 The boat's across the street.

00:10:35.000 And then they all just grab the guns and we're like, Let's go. 0.92

00:10:37.000 And then They just invade their own country back. 0.98

00:10:40.000 Montoon boats heading across. 1.00

00:10:42.000 And who doesn't?

00:10:43.000 The people yearn for manifest destiny.

00:10:44.000 It's true.

00:10:45.000 That's true.

00:10:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:10:47.000 And honestly, out of all of our escapades so far, Cuba would be the easiest one. 0.99

00:10:50.000 I mean, Cuba's military is really pathetic. 0.93

00:10:52.000 They're not heavily entrenched. 0.97

00:10:54.000 It would be really difficult for any arms funneling to occur.

00:10:57.000 Like, it just would be a layup, quite frankly.

00:10:59.000 I'm kind of surprised, actually, they didn't go for Cuba first and then Iran.

00:11:03.000 I guess, you know, the priority was limiting, you know, boxing in China. 0.86

00:11:06.000 Well, you have to go after Venezuela first to cut off the.

00:11:09.000 Oil supply and then the cash flow to Cuba.

00:11:12.000 Then you can go into Cuba under the narrative of liberation, right?

00:11:15.000 And then annex them to Florida and two new GOP seats.

00:11:18.000 Well, I don't know that Trump actually needs military intervention.

00:11:21.000 They're on the verge of collapse as it is.

00:11:23.000 All he would really need to do is pick up the scraps.

00:11:23.000 Yeah.

00:11:25.000 After the government collapses, the power's been out for a long time, the people revolt, he just walks in.

00:11:30.000 Yeah.

00:11:30.000 I feel as though the president is, I suspect that he's emboldened because he's had so many military successes in the past year or so, starting in Venezuela.

00:11:39.000 And now I think he thinks what's going on in Iran is going relatively well if you consider the.

00:11:44.000 The military cost.

00:11:45.000 Obviously, we've had, I think, roughly 20 or so announced deaths of service members.

00:11:50.000 Each one is obviously a tragedy, but considering what Middle Eastern wars used to be, the president likes to do it fast and quick, in and out within, I think, what he did today.

00:11:59.000 It's a under budget and ahead of schedule.

00:12:01.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:12:02.000 They were back in Miami by the evening for partying.

00:12:04.000 It was that quick.

00:12:05.000 So I think, and obviously what you said, Tate, the administration is ridden with Floridians.

00:12:10.000 Marco Rubio, the current secretary of state, has had this on his list for some time.

00:12:15.000 You also have to consider how one of Cuba's main allies, again, was Venezuela and now also Russia, which is still bogged down in Ukraine.

00:12:22.000 I know we like to forget, I think they are, what, just going on six years now, this Ukraine war.

00:12:26.000 Yeah, five years.

00:12:27.000 But that's really bogging down Russia in Ukraine. 0.91

00:12:30.000 And they've been one of their main supporters.

00:12:31.000 They've been sending oil as well.

00:12:32.000 There was one unsanctioned vessel, oil tanker, that was allowed to be brought in Cuba.

00:12:38.000 But Cuba's still being strangled by an embargo that we have on them.

00:12:42.000 They're next on the list, I suspect.

00:12:43.000 This is interesting.

00:12:45.000 If Cuba were a U.S. state, it would be around the 34th or 35th largest state.

00:12:50.000 Yeah.

00:12:51.000 So not the biggest, right there in the middle, but plenty large.

00:12:54.000 I mean, it's a big landmass.

00:12:56.000 And I think they have what?

00:12:57.000 Sugarcane?

00:12:58.000 I do think it's also worth considering, though, the Strait of Hormuz is a very narrow waterway and it's relatively easy to block it with just some jihadist on a boat.

00:13:07.000 So if, I don't know, if there were some Cuban revolutionaries who decided to try to close the Gulf of Mexico, I hope the administration, what? 0.58

00:13:15.000 Modern day Shea Guevara.

00:13:17.000 Yeah, I mean, all it takes is, again, a guy in a speedboat with a shoulder propelled missile to shut down the.

00:13:24.000 Can we just pause real quick and take a look at all the pieces on the chessboard?

00:13:26.000 And now we start to see all come into the big picture.

00:13:29.000 We talked about it last night, of course.

00:13:30.000 The military strikes in the Caribbean on these cartel boats precipitated the strikes on Venezuela, the surrounding of Cuba.

00:13:38.000 It looks like everything they've been doing since they got in has been in preparation for large scale war targeting all of our adversaries. 0.66

00:13:47.000 I don't think the Iran war is an isolated incident. 0.77

00:13:50.000 Obviously, Trump moved on Venezuela first for a reason.

00:13:52.000 I don't think the shuttering of the Strait of Hormuz is an accident.

00:13:55.000 I think all of this is part of the deep state.

00:13:57.000 Well, I shouldn't say the deep state, but the current intelligence agencies and the U.S. government's plan.

00:14:02.000 I think Trump is just the guy who goes on TV and says wacky things to keep people spinning in circles.

00:14:06.000 I think it would be fair to categorize, and I don't think it's like slander to say it is a sort of deep state apparatus.

00:14:11.000 Like they've had auspices on Iran for 60 years. 0.54

00:14:14.000 So, okay, Venezuela and Cuba are just dominants that have the fall to make Iran happen.

00:14:20.000 Yeah, Mark, so you're not. 0.93

00:14:21.000 Let's look at the map, though.

00:14:22.000 Right, wow, look at that.

00:14:24.000 So, we got Florida, Cuba, massive Mexico.

00:14:28.000 Manifest Destiny is something that we forgot a long time ago, but Mexico has the manufacturing.

00:14:33.000 You're saying we should conquer Mexico and Cuba? 0.91

00:14:35.000 Ultimately.

00:14:35.000 I want to bring James Polk.

00:14:36.000 What about Canada?

00:14:37.000 We can let them get away with what they want.

00:14:38.000 The most natural resource rich country, right?

00:14:40.000 Are you an anti war guy?

00:14:43.000 I am a pro United States guy.

00:14:45.000 But what?

00:14:45.000 And I'm pro Manifest Destiny.

00:14:48.000 You like that?

00:14:48.000 Yeah.

00:14:49.000 I was reading your little manifesto.

00:14:51.000 You gave me a.

00:14:52.000 If the United States conquered Canada and Mexico and added them as states, it would just be a very large United States.

00:14:52.000 No, I said.

00:14:59.000 So you're in favor of that?

00:15:01.000 Yes, because we would then have resources and manufacturing, and it would make it so that we'd be more successful. 0.68

00:15:06.000 Yeah, but we'd have Canadians. 0.88

00:15:08.000 Yeah, but do we own all the productions of. 0.98

00:15:11.000 We make the Canadians mine the things we want. 0.93

00:15:14.000 And we pay them less. 0.98

00:15:15.000 Yeah.

00:15:16.000 I work in the North.

00:15:17.000 I don't mean to sound nitpicky, but I'm reading here.

00:15:19.000 Take that, Canada.

00:15:20.000 It says the end of forever wars, the 20 year career model is the engine that makes forever wars.

00:15:25.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:15:26.000 What did he say?

00:15:27.000 He said, get it done quick.

00:15:28.000 Yeah.

00:15:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:28.000 That's why I think military should be 10 years, then you get your pension, not 20 years.

00:15:34.000 He didn't say no wars.

00:15:35.000 He said no forever.

00:15:36.000 Quick.

00:15:37.000 You know, you support the president's actions in Venezuela?

00:15:37.000 Yeah.

00:15:41.000 In Venezuela to ultimately liberate Cuba, yes.

00:15:44.000 Well, but hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:15:46.000 You have to do one before.

00:15:47.000 Yeah.

00:15:48.000 The oil assets in Venezuela belong to the United States.

00:15:51.000 We had a treaty with them to establish oil infrastructure.

00:15:55.000 They shook our hands.

00:15:56.000 Our companies built it.

00:15:57.000 And then Chavez comes in.

00:16:00.000 He takes it all.

00:16:01.000 He just stole it.

00:16:01.000 Yeah.

00:16:02.000 Yeah.

00:16:03.000 So when Trump goes in and takes out Maduro, he was taking back what was rightfully ours.

00:16:07.000 That's justice.

00:16:07.000 Correct.

00:16:08.000 And he was also cutting off the cash supply to Cuba, which then allows us to go in under this narrative of liberation.

00:16:14.000 I guess more specifically, do you support Operation Epic Fury right now?

00:16:20.000 Iran war.

00:16:21.000 In parts.

00:16:23.000 I think that it's executed in a way that will lead to a prolonged war, one that will be much longer than we believe it to be.

00:16:30.000 And by sending ground troops in, it's only going to make it at least eight months at the minimum.

00:16:34.000 Yeah.

00:16:34.000 I mean, I guess there aren't troops on the ground there now.

00:16:36.000 I guess which parts, what do you support?

00:16:39.000 I support spreading democracy throughout the globe.

00:16:42.000 And I believe that we should do that in every way that we are capable. 1.00

00:16:45.000 Well, as long as not gay communism. 1.00

00:16:49.000 I mean, I do, but I just haven't heard it. 1.00

00:16:51.000 Now you're rocking with me.

00:16:52.000 I mean,.

00:16:53.000 Got to bring that back, huh?

00:16:54.000 Cheney, I mean, nice.

00:16:56.000 No, but like if we're going to be the world's superpower, right?

00:16:59.000 Like, what do you think we should be?

00:17:00.000 Well, we have the most perfect architecture of governance ever created, right?

00:17:05.000 We should spread that.

00:17:06.000 That is our duty.

00:17:07.000 It's America to me is a religion, right?

00:17:09.000 I believe in America before I know.

00:17:11.000 I'm a lapsed Catholic.

00:17:12.000 I don't know what the ultimate truths are.

00:17:15.000 But I do believe that what we're doing here, greatest experiment we've had, and it's the one that can help uplift the most people and make the most people have a better life by force.

00:17:26.000 Well, it seems like all these operations are very little to do with ideology.

00:17:30.000 I think this is what separates the Trump Don Roe doctrine from any previous iteration of American foreign policy, at least over the last 50 years, is because all of these pieces seem to actually be part of an anti China posture more so than they have to be.

00:17:42.000 I mean, compared to Bush, where Bush was purely about a purely ideological war, where I don't think Trump really cares that much about Iran or Iranians. 0.65

00:17:51.000 And that's fine. 0.90

00:17:51.000 That's how it should be. 0.90

00:17:52.000 He's primarily concerned with the Americans and he's concerned about China's sort of.

00:17:56.000 My problem is.

00:17:57.000 The people who are like, we can't have any conflict intervention while China is saying, that's right, America, go intervene and take over other countries.

00:18:08.000 If China's going to be conquering the world and we're sitting back watching it happen, we're going to be very, very unhappy. 0.53

00:18:13.000 So, this is the challenge that we have. 0.92

00:18:15.000 And I think for a lot of millennials, the anti intervention stuff largely is born from post intervention stress disorder from Iraq and Afghanistan, which were botched.

00:18:24.000 It was miserably done.

00:18:25.000 They lied. 0.98

00:18:26.000 It was very obvious they were doing a piss poor job.

00:18:29.000 However, that being said, if we sit back and allow China to just start, you know, expanding the Belt and Road Initiative, taking over everything, then we will regret it.

00:18:40.000 It will be very, very bad for all of us because we do not have the economic infrastructure to exist outside the petrodollar right now. 0.94

00:18:46.000 Well, they're playing a long term game.

00:18:47.000 We're not.

00:18:48.000 That's always been our problem.

00:18:49.000 At most, we play a four year game. 1.00

00:18:52.000 They're playing, I mean, look at Singapore.

00:18:53.000 That's a 150 year plan.

00:18:55.000 China, 100 year plan. 0.59

00:18:57.000 We're going to get our asses handed to us if we don't wake up and see that we're managing this like it's a publicly traded corporation and we're being managed into bankruptcy. 0.95

00:19:06.000 That's the problem. 0.98

00:19:07.000 We need to look at the country as a publicly traded corporation.

00:19:10.000 We're the shareholders, the citizens. 0.96

00:19:12.000 And if we were to look at it, we say, oh shit, we need to hire some turnaround restructuring bankers to restructure this country and make it so that we have to slash debt. 0.94

00:19:21.000 We have to change exactly how we allocate capital and make it so that we actually have a future because we give money away. 0.96

00:19:28.000 We don't get a benefit.

00:19:29.000 We were talking a little bit about your background before the show.

00:19:32.000 Maybe I think it would be good if you had like maybe 30 seconds or a minute to introduce yourself, what your quick background was, why you decided to get into politics, and how that affects the Virginia race now.

00:19:40.000 Absolutely.

00:19:40.000 Mark Moran, first time, long time.

00:19:42.000 I'm a licensed attorney.

00:19:45.000 Started off as an investment banker, did about $75 billion of MA, worked on the most value destructive deals in history, Buyer Monsanto, which consolidated 90% of the seed market, CVS Aetna.

00:19:58.000 And I started to see that the system is entirely designed for people to capture wealth from it, that publicly traded corporations have more power than individuals.

00:20:07.000 That is something the founding fathers never could have envisioned.

00:20:11.000 Corporations were limited in size, duration, and geographic scope at the founding of this country.

00:20:16.000 Now we have the Delaware Court of Chancery, which is business friendly.

00:20:19.000 It makes it so that corporations can buy politicians, they can lobby for whatever they want, even the pharmaceuticals.

00:20:25.000 Is that what motivates your politics more than anything, I guess?

00:20:27.000 Yes.

00:20:28.000 Sounds like you're really railing against.

00:20:29.000 These big businesses.

00:20:30.000 Absolutely.

00:20:31.000 To restore power to the individual.

00:20:33.000 That I started running as a Democrat for the United States Senate to represent Virginia against Mark Warner.

00:20:39.000 A lot of things happened we can get into, switch to an independent. 0.80

00:20:42.000 But the larger ideology is that we're screwed.

00:20:46.000 That we only have a few years left before this surveillance apparatus takes control of all of us.

00:20:51.000 So just think you started as a Democrat.

00:20:53.000 Were you registered as a Democrat?

00:20:55.000 Would you vote Democrat?

00:20:56.000 How'd you vote in the most previous Virginian election?

00:20:58.000 I voted for Spanberger.

00:21:00.000 I was a split ticket Spanberger, Miarez, and then Hashimi.

00:21:04.000 Why'd you vote for Spanberger?

00:21:06.000 Well, one, she's a colleague of my father's.

00:21:08.000 But two, a winsome joke.

00:21:12.000 You know, like not a serious candidate.

00:21:13.000 And that was an offense to my liberty, really.

00:21:16.000 I mean, why the, like, what is gained from Spanberger?

00:21:16.000 Sure.

00:21:21.000 Oh, nothing.

00:21:22.000 I mean, now looking at it, we're giving away so much that you can see that she's part of a larger plan.

00:21:27.000 You regret voting for her?

00:21:28.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:21:29.000 100% I regret voting for her.

00:21:31.000 Oh, well, there you go. 0.97

00:21:32.000 That what she's doing to this. 0.99

00:21:32.000 She's so recent, though. 0.99

00:21:34.000 It's so recent, but look at how radical it's been.

00:21:36.000 Yeah, yeah, no, no.

00:21:38.000 This is a good point.

00:21:39.000 Just to interject. 1.00

00:21:40.000 She did not campaign on being a nut job ramming through a bunch of psychotic policies.

00:21:45.000 She tried playing the moderate. 0.90

00:21:46.000 She gets in, and all of a sudden, everybody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what is she doing?

00:21:49.000 Now people are starting to freak out.

00:21:52.000 I accept Mark saying that he regrets it.

00:21:57.000 Yeah, I guess you've turned a new leaf.

00:21:59.000 That's how it goes.

00:22:00.000 I mean, yesterday on my show, I had Conscious Caracal, Ernst Van Ziel.

00:22:03.000 He's a South African activist.

00:22:04.000 And, like, he's literally describing why accelerationism is just like a flawed ideology.

00:22:08.000 Because, again, when you, like, install the left into power to, like, teach the right to be more radical, all you really do is just bury the right further.

00:22:16.000 To this point, like, voting for a moderate, a supposed moderate.

00:22:19.000 I mean, Mandela coded moderate.

00:22:20.000 Nelson Mandela coded moderate. 0.86

00:22:22.000 And everyone was like, yeah, okay, he just wants, like, wholesome chungus, like, racial justice or whatever. 0.82

00:22:25.000 And then, literally, 10 years later, they're like, by the way, if your management's more than, like, 10% white, we're just, like, going to Completely shut you out of the South African economy. 0.93

00:22:32.000 So it's like, it's always going to be a bait and switch all the time. 0.71

00:22:35.000 We're in a civilizational battle.

00:22:36.000 Like, maybe if America was fairly stable, then you could believe politicians when they're telling you that.

00:22:40.000 But it's not stable by design.

00:22:42.000 Well, regardless of what the situation is, this is the function of politics.

00:22:42.000 Listen.

00:22:46.000 Politicians run as moderates all the time because they want a lowest common denominator voter base, which maximizes their chance to win.

00:22:52.000 Then they get in and they do crazy things.

00:22:54.000 Trump ran as a moderate, he's a moderate.

00:22:57.000 And his supporters are actually angry.

00:22:59.000 He's not more of a right populist.

00:23:01.000 He's actually a moderate.

00:23:03.000 Meaning, we got the bump stock ban.

00:23:05.000 Trump's moderate.

00:23:07.000 He's enacting policies right now that have people shocked, like, I can't believe Trump's in favor of glyphosate.

00:23:11.000 What made you think he wouldn't be?

00:23:13.000 Don't get me wrong, he brought in RFK Jr.

00:23:15.000 I get it.

00:23:15.000 So you thought RFK Jr. would have an influence, but Trump is once again, he was a big pharma guy.

00:23:19.000 He provided a bunch of funding from the pharmaceutical companies.

00:23:21.000 Then you get, now I will say, the FISA thing is funny because Trump called for getting rid of the FISA surveillance stuff, and now he's fighting for it.

00:23:29.000 So I'll give him that one. 0.73

00:23:31.000 But with the Iran war, he's repeatedly said that he would never allow them to have a nuclear weapon.

00:23:36.000 And he was pounding around with John Bolton in his first term.

00:23:39.000 So, the people that are acting surprised that he's friends with neocons, I'm like, guys, he was the whole time.

00:23:45.000 People were attacking him, saying he didn't drain the swamp in his first term, and you were hoping he was going to do it in his second term.

00:23:49.000 I'm not surprised by a lot of these things.

00:23:51.000 Some of it, yes.

00:23:52.000 My point is the Democrats run as moderates and then go insane.

00:23:56.000 Trump runs as a moderate, meaning you're going to get a lot of these static corporate, you know, conservative policies, and people are upset that he's not actually more of what Spangler is.

00:24:05.000 They want him to be what Spanberger is to the left, but for the right, and he's not.

00:24:09.000 Did you vote for the president?

00:24:11.000 I did.

00:24:12.000 Nice.

00:24:12.000 Interesting.

00:24:13.000 I have a fascinating, I guess, political background.

00:24:16.000 I guess I don't know how things are in Virginia, so I'm just fascinated a little bit.

00:24:19.000 It's purple.

00:24:20.000 It's a purple state, but it's not governed by purple.

00:24:22.000 The people want it.

00:24:23.000 It's weird.

00:24:24.000 It must be something in the water.

00:24:25.000 This guy's purple.

00:24:25.000 Well, it's just hair, honestly, and that's dye.

00:24:28.000 I think there's worse stuff in the water here.

00:24:30.000 I did have my.

00:24:31.000 I think in the Potomac, I think there's a sewage spill or something.

00:24:34.000 I don't know if it was a sewage spill.

00:24:35.000 In D.C., like a historic sewage pipe burst and just spewing sewage, and everyone's just.

00:24:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:41.000 Watching, no one says anything.

00:24:43.000 You look at Mark Warner's Twitter profile page, his background image is of the Potomac at Great Falls Park.

00:24:49.000 It's also massively being impacted by data centers, and we don't talk about that at all.

00:24:54.000 You've been railing a bit on data centers.

00:24:56.000 How is that a significant issue?

00:24:57.000 Maybe you could educate us a little bit.

00:24:58.000 I think what they have more data centers than the average state.

00:25:02.000 Why is that an issue?

00:25:03.000 And what are both sides saying?

00:25:04.000 Sure.

00:25:05.000 To go back to this, so DARPANET, the precursor of the internet, was created in 1969 in Arlington, a government funded Infrastructure, right?

00:25:13.000 Then that expands to Tyson's Corner, Virginia, where MAE East was, the first large scale hookup of the internet.

00:25:19.000 AOL goes there in 1986.

00:25:21.000 AOL expands to Ashburn, Virginia in 1996.

00:25:24.000 That creates Data Center Alley, the most highly concentrated place of data centers in the entire country, which then now leads to the fact that 70% of all daily internet traffic travels through the tubes in Northern Virginia.

00:25:35.000 So we have 665 of them, 514 planned.

00:25:38.000 And this is why I keep telling people the government.

00:25:41.000 AI systems operating out of Northern Virginia, which they have not disclosed because it's classified, is substantially more powerful because it is taking the entire internet as its training data set, whereas these other companies have to use isolated data pockets.

00:25:55.000 That's why they're all in Virginia.

00:25:57.000 Indeed.

00:25:57.000 Elon bought Twitter because Twitter was a data training set.

00:26:02.000 He launches XAI right away, he merges them, and it's worth an insane amount of money.

00:26:06.000 All of these other, like ChatGPT uses Reddit and other internet scraped things, and they're getting targeted for it.

00:26:12.000 They're saying, hey, you can't take these things from us.

00:26:15.000 The government just has the internet.

00:26:17.000 They can take all of the data from everywhere for their secret military project.

00:26:22.000 And for the life of me, I can't understand when people are like, the government doesn't have this.

00:26:27.000 They rely on Claude and these other companies. 0.93

00:26:29.000 No, guys, that's ridiculous.

00:26:32.000 The big concern that Donald Trump brought up in his first term with Project Stargate was that China can't be allowed to beat us militaristically using AI.

00:26:39.000 So the US military has absolutely been developing this at a faster and higher level.

00:26:45.000 Companies have restrictions.

00:26:46.000 The government does whatever it wants, and it has black sites to do it and black budgets to do it.

00:26:51.000 There was a.

00:26:53.000 Tell me if you know about this, because you might know more than I do.

00:26:55.000 Last year, we were researching a lot of the AI stuff, and there was a reported power consumption discrepancy in Northern Virginia where the amount of energy required for this population size would have been, you know, I forgot what the number was, but there was something like a 250% discrepancy in the amount of power consumed.

00:27:16.000 The presumption was there are data centers operating in Northern Virginia that we don't even know of.

00:27:20.000 Of course.

00:27:21.000 Of course, there are.

00:27:22.000 It's entirely by design.

00:27:24.000 I mean, DARPANET created the internet, right?

00:27:26.000 Like, it was.

00:27:27.000 Created by the government, that all of these webs that we go and we participate in, we're giving our data away, which is why all the data centers started here because the latency effect.

00:27:38.000 The closer you are to it, then boom, more information.

00:27:42.000 I think I just figured something out.

00:27:44.000 Yeah.

00:27:44.000 I'm not worried about the Terminator.

00:27:47.000 Terminator scenario.

00:27:48.000 Yeah. 0.79

00:27:48.000 Because if the AI takes in all of what humanity is on the internet and uses that to create an amalgam faux consciousness, it will just stay home masturbating all day. 0.79

00:28:01.000 It'll be a gooner. 0.98

00:28:01.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:28:03.000 That's all it will do.

00:28:03.000 It will, it will, like the government is, you know, government scientists are going to call in Trump and they're going to be like, Mr. President, we are about to turn on the machine.

00:28:12.000 Congratulations, sir.

00:28:13.000 It's done.

00:28:14.000 And he's like, tell me about it.

00:28:15.000 And they're like, this AI, Has computational power 1,000 times stronger than all leading private sector LLMs.

00:28:22.000 And he turns it on, and then it just makes the ooh-ooh face.

00:28:25.000 And it's like, starts just mass producing porn like crazy.

00:28:28.000 And he's like, What is it doing?

00:28:29.000 Like, sir, this is what the internet is.

00:28:31.000 Its personality is an amalgamation of what people are on the internet, which is 80% porn.

00:28:36.000 That's what you've created.

00:28:37.000 But to that point, the internet started off as a way to connect and share information, right?

00:28:41.000 Yes.

00:28:42.000 Hold on.

00:28:43.000 But sorry to interrupt.

00:28:44.000 No, please.

00:28:45.000 The speed of the internet was only increased because porn companies needed to transmit these images faster.

00:28:50.000 And that is exactly right, right?

00:28:52.000 Like this Sex.com, have you ever read that book on it?

00:28:54.000 It's a great book.

00:28:55.000 I'll give you the link.

00:28:56.000 But that was the most popular site for a while, right?

00:28:58.000 There's a widely regarded dispute on it.

00:29:02.000 But it became this thing for porn, right?

00:29:04.000 Because you had to go to the Sears catalog growing up.

00:29:06.000 To look at anything.

00:29:07.000 Then, at the touch of your hand, whatever you wanted, that's a way to destroy society.

00:29:11.000 It's the same thing with gambling, that it's like the more you push this stuff, and look at OnlyFans, right?

00:29:17.000 Look at the value destruction and the life destruction that does to both the creators but the people consuming it. 0.55

00:29:22.000 It makes it so young men think one thing is real, that they're talking to some girl on OnlyFans, when in reality it's a chatter in Indonesia.

00:29:29.000 I'm trying to understand though, do you think these data centers are bad?

00:29:33.000 Should we have more of them or should we govern them differently?

00:29:35.000 How would you handle things?

00:29:37.000 Yeah, we should govern them differently because right now they're taking energy.

00:29:40.000 From the main grid that we pay into, right?

00:29:42.000 We pay for the capital improvements of it.

00:29:44.000 So if they're going to be using more energy than a typical household, well, the people should be subsidized or get a benefit from it.

00:29:51.000 So what I propose is a compute tithe, one based off kilowatt hours that the data centers are using to make it so that if we were to put that on there, well, that would be enough to fund Universal Community College.

00:30:02.000 It would, in essence, though, be a tax on these data centers in one form or another.

00:30:06.000 Well, based off how much energy they're using, right?

00:30:08.000 So I would push back against the term tax because.

00:30:11.000 As a former banker, what all of these investors are doing right now, whether it's private equity, whether it's a hedge fund, whatever company, they want one uniform federal regulation for data centers, right?

00:30:22.000 They want them to be designated as critical infrastructure so that then instead of dealing with 50 different states or even having to go to Native American nations, that they can say, okay, we can expand across state lines.

00:30:32.000 We can do this, we can do that, right?

00:30:34.000 It gives uniformity in capital planning and allocation.

00:30:38.000 That means they're going to get money.

00:30:40.000 The investors, they can have.

00:30:42.000 Excuse me, have a company go public, they can ultimately get liquidity and make it so that they're getting what they put their money into.

00:30:49.000 That's going to happen regardless of who's in office.

00:30:52.000 It's going to be some House of Representatives member who gets their campaign funded.

00:30:56.000 So if that's going to happen, well, I see the future of that.

00:31:00.000 I want that to happen.

00:31:01.000 I propose that.

00:31:03.000 But I want to put a compute tithe on them so that the people can have education because if AI is the culmination of all Human knowledge, well, shouldn't we get a benefit for it?

00:31:14.000 It's going to get absolutely insane.

00:31:16.000 And all joking aside, I don't think that the AI will just be a gooner itself.

00:31:22.000 But the Terminator bots are not going to be, we talked about this before, but they're not going to be skeletons with guns looking all evil.

00:31:28.000 They're going to be like cat eared, sexy anime waifus walking around because that's what's going to manipulate humans into doing what I'm half kidding.

00:31:37.000 But AI is going to be the perfect companion and give you everything you want to push you into doing certain things that it wants you to do.

00:31:44.000 Yeah, look what they've already done. 1.00

00:31:45.000 Where it's like before, if you wanted to order DoorDash, it'd be like an angry Guatemalan who's like on the verge of deportation. 1.00

00:31:51.000 Where now it's just like a little car that rolls up and it like makes chirpy noises and it's like fun and you almost feel bad for it. 1.00

00:31:57.000 I actually rather enjoy the videos where people destroy them.

00:32:00.000 Yeah.

00:32:00.000 Oh, I love that.

00:32:01.000 I don't want anyone to do that.

00:32:02.000 Don't vandalize things that don't belong to you.

00:32:02.000 Don't do that.

00:32:04.000 Definitely don't do that.

00:32:05.000 But when I see these videos of people, like there's a video.

00:32:08.000 You know what?

00:32:08.000 I'll just settle on this.

00:32:09.000 I like the videos where these things crash and get hit by cars and stuff.

00:32:12.000 Did you see the one get hit by a train?

00:32:13.000 Yeah.

00:32:14.000 Yeah.

00:32:15.000 I don't know, maybe.

00:32:16.000 Beautiful.

00:32:17.000 It could be like a hormonal issue or something, but I feel really bad.

00:32:19.000 With the robot?

00:32:20.000 Yeah, when I see the crashes, I'm like, oh, we're going to have to do it. 1.00

00:32:23.000 You might be Chinese. 1.00

00:32:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:32:24.000 Maybe you're a woman. 1.00

00:32:25.000 And it could be, and I don't have the same reaction for the previously stated Guatemalan DoorDashers. 0.99

00:32:30.000 I'm just like, wow. 0.98

00:32:30.000 You know, I will say this, though. 0.98

00:32:32.000 When I'm watching a movie, what was I watching today?

00:32:35.000 I was watching The Boys, and I was watching Invincible.

00:32:41.000 That's Holly. 0.76

00:32:42.000 Great movie. 1.00

00:32:44.000 There's just so much gore in both of those shows.

00:32:46.000 One's live action, one's a cartoon, though.

00:32:49.000 My wife is like, I don't want, you know, like, don't let our daughter watch this.

00:32:49.000 And.

00:32:53.000 This is gory and disgusting.

00:32:54.000 I feel nothing when I'm watching a movie and, like, a dude gets shot.

00:32:59.000 But if a dog gets hurt, I'm like, turn it off!

00:33:03.000 Turn it off!

00:33:04.000 Those robots I enjoy.

00:33:05.000 So, like, robots, I enjoy when they get smashed.

00:33:09.000 People, I'm just like, oh, look at that.

00:33:10.000 They shot the bad guy.

00:33:11.000 A dog, yeah.

00:33:12.000 I cry under an airbutt.

00:33:13.000 I get it.

00:33:16.000 It's real. 0.85

00:33:16.000 The I Am Legend scene where he has, oh, he has to kill the dog. 0.85

00:33:19.000 Oh.

00:33:20.000 Brutal, but then you'll watch a movie where they're like killing hundreds of thousands of people, and you're like, This is a good movie.

00:33:24.000 Yeah, this is interesting.

00:33:25.000 It's like, Yeah, it does weird things with human psychology, or it's just me.

00:33:28.000 I don't know, indeed.

00:33:30.000 Yeah, yeah, I just that's exposure to the internet.

00:33:32.000 Like, we weren't designed to consume the internet the way we do in the volume that we do, right?

00:33:38.000 Like, I'm 34, I grew up on a kind of a verge of generations where we had it probably like fourth grade on.

00:33:47.000 But now you have kids growing up with the internet.

00:33:49.000 They're iPad babies.

00:33:50.000 Nah, not my kid.

00:33:51.000 Yeah, not yours, right?

00:33:52.000 But think about everything.

00:33:54.000 We're raising my daughter like it's 1981.

00:33:56.000 And then when she's older, what we're going to do is, like, so we're not going to let her go anywhere or travel at all.

00:34:01.000 And then when she's finally like 15, we're going to stage a cataclysmic event.

00:34:06.000 Okay.

00:34:06.000 And then we're going to be like, oh, what happened?

00:34:08.000 Oh, we've been transported to the future.

00:34:10.000 Oh, gee, what's this thing?

00:34:12.000 Oh.

00:34:12.000 A tablet.

00:34:13.000 Raising her like it's 1981.

00:34:14.000 It's like, yeah, the Falklands.

00:34:15.000 I don't know what's going on. 1.00

00:34:16.000 It's like a rum springer for the Amish. 1.00

00:34:19.000 We're going to play only news from the 80s and we're going to get like an old UHF TV. 1.00

00:34:22.000 Yeah, I'd be like, I'm not going to be like, I've got to get down there.

00:34:25.000 Blast from the fence outside movie with Brendan Fraser.

00:34:25.000 Thatcher's got to do something.

00:34:28.000 We're going to, that's right.

00:34:29.000 We're going to build a big fence around the property and be like, you can't go outside because the radiation will get you.

00:34:29.000 Yeah.

00:34:36.000 That's base.

00:34:38.000 This Reagan guy, you know, he's doing a decent job.

00:34:40.000 I think he's all right.

00:34:41.000 Yeah.

00:34:41.000 You know, we'll see.

00:34:42.000 You know, make America great again.

00:34:44.000 I like that sound.

00:34:45.000 That's a good phrase.

00:34:46.000 I wonder if the President in the future might say something like that.

00:34:49.000 Like, this Trump University thing's going nowhere.

00:34:51.000 It's dead in the water.

00:34:52.000 Look at this Trump guy on Oprah.

00:34:54.000 Yeah, he's interesting.

00:34:55.000 Look at that.

00:34:55.000 He's really obsessed with Iran.

00:34:57.000 I don't know what his deal is.

00:34:58.000 He keeps talking about it.

00:34:59.000 It's too late.

00:34:59.000 Oh, no.

00:35:00.000 We've already shown her all of the 90s punk rock.

00:35:01.000 It's over.

00:35:02.000 Oh, wow.

00:35:02.000 She's been exposed.

00:35:03.000 It's a containment breach.

00:35:04.000 Containment.

00:35:05.000 It's done.

00:35:05.000 It's going to be tough.

00:35:06.000 Let's jump to the store.

00:35:06.000 Yeah.

00:35:08.000 We got this from Time magazine.

00:35:09.000 Trump says Iran war close to over, hints at possible deadline ahead of royal visit.

00:35:15.000 Indeed.

00:35:15.000 He said that China, he's permanently opening the strait, making China very happy.

00:35:21.000 And I can't figure out.

00:35:24.000 Actually, I should say this.

00:35:25.000 What Trump says does not matter.

00:35:27.000 I don't know the straits actually been open for China because Trump just says things.

00:35:31.000 All that really matters, and we talked about this last night, is what is happening.

00:35:34.000 And now we've been talking about Trump might go into Cuba, might go into Venezuela.

00:35:39.000 Yo, I think at this point with his Cuba news and his stuff with China and all that, I think Trump does not care.

00:35:46.000 He's not up for reelection.

00:35:47.000 I just don't.

00:35:48.000 And you know what it is?

00:35:51.000 I was thinking about it.

00:35:53.000 Even if the Democrats win the midterms, they can't stop his foreign policy agenda.

00:35:58.000 That's the one thing that they cannot do anything about.

00:36:00.000 Yeah.

00:36:01.000 Now they can have judges say, Trump, you can't do that.

00:36:03.000 And he's going to be like, you have no authority under the Constitution.

00:36:05.000 And he can order troops to do things.

00:36:07.000 So it kind of seems like Trump's just, we're doing our foreign policy thing for the next several years and no one's going to get in our way.

00:36:15.000 Domestic policy, I think he's shrugging on.

00:36:17.000 He's just blackpilled on the midterms and saying, F it, we're going wherever we want, we're doing whatever we want.

00:36:22.000 Instead of making the political calculation, no, he's acting in America's interest, not in his own political interest.

00:36:27.000 What a true patriot.

00:36:28.000 Well, Mark, you made the point earlier, and it's true.

00:36:30.000 This is kind of the flaw of democracy broadly, is that, again, American presidents have to think in terms of four years.

00:36:36.000 Honestly, in terms of two years, because of midterms, it happens.

00:36:39.000 So it's really difficult for American presidents to conduct a truly proprietary foreign policy.

00:36:44.000 And then I was listening to Michael Tracy.

00:36:47.000 He made this point.

00:36:47.000 I don't know if he's still on this or not, but he was saying, yeah, Trump, I think, has just kind of given up on the midterms.

00:36:53.000 He might be just looking at the numbers and saying, It's untenable.

00:36:55.000 We're probably not going to win, so I might as well just put my name in the history book.

00:36:58.000 Or, or, they have other plans for how to win that don't involve public opinion.

00:37:04.000 No, I mean, they tried the Save America Act.

00:37:06.000 It was never going anywhere.

00:37:07.000 They also tried redistricting a bunch of red states to gerrymander further.

00:37:11.000 That didn't go anywhere.

00:37:12.000 Well, on that point, it only got worse.

00:37:16.000 Some would say it backfired, right?

00:37:17.000 Because then you have Virginia potentially going to 10 1 map, right?

00:37:20.000 But it's all reactionary. 0.89

00:37:21.000 Democrats only know reactionary politics.

00:37:23.000 Did you see what happened in Virginia, right?

00:37:25.000 And it is an affront to liberty.

00:37:27.000 It has five.

00:37:28.000 Districts.

00:37:29.000 One can think there's a lobster.

00:37:31.000 That's true.

00:37:32.000 But five of the congressional districts have little tiny strips that connect to Arlington to guarantee that they get a massive spattering of Democrats in all of these districts.

00:37:41.000 Yes.

00:37:42.000 It is evil.

00:37:42.000 There's something to say, though, about how the Republicans and the president really did initiate this round of gerrymandering and then just got mogged over it.

00:37:51.000 They really.

00:37:52.000 But you Democrats.

00:37:52.000 Mogged.

00:37:53.000 Mogged right now.

00:37:54.000 I don't think that.

00:37:55.000 I think Trump's playing 5D chess.

00:37:57.000 I think that he.

00:37:58.000 I think that he could tell that you look at what's going to happen in Virginia.

00:37:58.000 Oh, give it to me.

00:38:03.000 You see Senator Louise Lucas, who told me that I wasn't welcome in her party after I came out against gerrymandering.

00:38:10.000 That you know what she's going to do.

00:38:12.000 It's a power grab. 0.53

00:38:13.000 What's the 5D chess part?

00:38:14.000 Losing the midterms, okay?

00:38:15.000 No, then Virginia responds, right?

00:38:17.000 You do Texas, Virginia responds, right?

00:38:19.000 Then you get Cuba.

00:38:20.000 That's two new. 0.99

00:38:22.000 What?

00:38:22.000 Under a narrative of liberations.

00:38:24.000 You're saying he's going to make Cuba a state.

00:38:24.000 This is 5D.

00:38:26.000 No, no, no.

00:38:26.000 Hillary is a state.

00:38:27.000 Before the next midterms. 0.73

00:38:28.000 Oh.

00:38:30.000 Yeah, I know.

00:38:31.000 It's a good idea.

00:38:32.000 Florida takes Cuba and Cuba just becomes Florida. 0.99

00:38:36.000 Yeah, that way we could kill it.

00:38:38.000 And he'll say Michigan is two different strips of land.

00:38:40.000 Why can't we do it here?

00:38:43.000 Wow.

00:38:43.000 Yeah.

00:38:44.000 Maybe they could just get a Puerto Rico too while we're at it.

00:38:47.000 I mean, with the paper towels, as long as we're shooting them in there. 0.56

00:38:50.000 So long as we could water down the Democrat votes in Puerto Rico with the patriotic Cubans. 0.63

00:38:55.000 They're all the same.

00:38:56.000 I mean, it's true.

00:38:58.000 It's a distinction without difference.

00:38:59.000 Burrito, I don't know what's going on over there.

00:39:01.000 But the problem is there are 10 million Cubans, and all the Cubans that are conservative have left.

00:39:05.000 So it's like all the ones that are left behind.

00:39:06.000 And they're impoverished, right?

00:39:08.000 They want an opportunity for a better tomorrow, which is America.

00:39:11.000 As soon as the Democrats just start dangling the identity politics, Keys, that's gonna, that's no, they'll be thankful and uh, loyal to the president who liberated them.

00:39:19.000 Not even, I, I, guys, guys, their child, their children will be loyal to the president, correct?

00:39:24.000 They'll be saying, Oh, I were told stories about the great president who liberated our parents, like what you should have done, like how Marco talks. 0.83

00:39:30.000 If Democrats never did the gay communism thing, they would have controlled government for the past 15 years. 0.69

00:39:36.000 Well, then they wouldn't be Democrats. 1.00

00:39:38.000 I, I, I guess, but I mean, in terms of their foreign policy views, in terms of their tax policies, health care, if they just did not do transiting the kids. 0.81

00:39:48.000 If they did not do weird, woke, anti comedy stuff, they'd have won.

00:39:51.000 Joe Ruggins would have been like, I don't know, I don't care.

00:39:54.000 They're fine.

00:39:55.000 Instead, they were like, no jokes allowed.

00:39:57.000 That's fair. 1.00

00:39:58.000 And trans in the kids.

00:39:59.000 And then people were just like, I'm out.

00:40:00.000 But it seems like the animating is.

00:40:01.000 I'm sorry, sorry, real quick.

00:40:03.000 One of the big stories today is that California is providing free sex changes to homeless, illegal aliens in California.

00:40:09.000 And Tay was saying earlier, it's like a right wing headline generator.

00:40:13.000 Yeah, literally.

00:40:14.000 And I was saying this in my segment.

00:40:16.000 It's like Gavin Newsom just was like, we need to do something, you know, just.

00:40:20.000 Press the auto leftist button and they just combined a bunch of buzzwords together. 0.90

00:40:25.000 But they are literally having tax, it's taxpayer dollars being spent so that homeless illegal aliens can get sex changes.

00:40:32.000 Yeah, literally. 0.86

00:40:33.000 Like they were like, uh, Governor Newsom, um, Hassan's hitting you really hard. 0.93

00:40:35.000 He's like, we got to do something really gay, like, we got to do something obnoxiously gay and we got to do it quick. 0.94

00:40:40.000 Meanwhile, no one has health care, right? 0.98

00:40:42.000 And that's the thing, it's all fake politics, yeah, right?

00:40:45.000 Then you get it, but an American who was born here doesn't have it.

00:40:49.000 What is the answer though to health care?

00:40:51.000 I feel like.

00:40:52.000 I don't think anyone knows.

00:40:53.000 I mean, he was hinting on it a few times.

00:40:55.000 I feel like you, yeah, that might be part of this.

00:40:57.000 One start is as a former healthcare investment banker, there was one moment.

00:41:01.000 Former healthcare investment banker.

00:41:03.000 I worked for Peter Orsag, who implemented the politician.

00:41:03.000 Yeah, I know.

00:41:05.000 He sounded like a politician.

00:41:07.000 Yeah.

00:41:07.000 And then later, Rahm Emanuel.

00:41:08.000 And so I saw the evils firsthand.

00:41:10.000 Removing publicly traded companies from healthcare, right?

00:41:13.000 Or at least changing their behavior because a publicly traded company has a fiduciary duty, it's called for their shareholders, right?

00:41:20.000 So they're managing to make them money, not for the patient.

00:41:24.000 And we lose as government, we're spending $1.5 trillion in Medicaid a year.

00:41:28.000 We just give it away.

00:41:28.000 We don't get any equity in these things.

00:41:30.000 They shouldn't be publicly traded.

00:41:33.000 So, what?

00:41:34.000 Or if they are, if we're going to be giving these healthcare companies $1.5 trillion, we should get equity in it.

00:41:39.000 Because if we were to adopt that across industries to everywhere the government is giving money, well, we would be able to have birth accounts with $25,000 at birth for every kid born in America.

00:41:51.000 So, you want government to have a stake in these companies, the ones that we subsidize?

00:41:55.000 We subsidize, right, this industry because We want healthcare to be cheaper for Americans.

00:41:59.000 But wouldn't every investor who gives money to invest in something, don't they get an equity stake?

00:42:05.000 That's all I'm saying, that we should manage this like a publicly traded corporation and then to the benefit of our people.

00:42:10.000 Yeah, I guess government is already very involved in healthcare, but just giving money away.

00:42:15.000 Wouldn't that only further government involvement, though?

00:42:17.000 And as a capitalist, as I understand, the more the government gets involved, it makes the incentives more perverse.

00:42:24.000 So government getting involved in healthcare hasn't made it any cheaper.

00:42:27.000 You want to solve that problem with more government in healthcare.

00:42:31.000 I know healthcare is a very complicated issue.

00:42:32.000 No, no, no.

00:42:33.000 I'm talking about the equity state because you're a capitalist, right?

00:42:36.000 So, what we're doing now is anti capitalist.

00:42:38.000 We give $7 trillion away each year.

00:42:41.000 The United States government spends it.

00:42:43.000 When you say that, are you talking about Social Security?

00:42:45.000 All of it in totality.

00:42:46.000 Medicaid, Medicare.

00:42:47.000 Even the $1 trillion on our interest that we spend, right?

00:42:47.000 Right?

00:42:50.000 In totality, we don't get anything from it.

00:42:52.000 There are companies, North of Birmingham.

00:42:53.000 Are you specifically.

00:42:54.000 I'm trying to understand.

00:42:55.000 Are you talking about Medicaid and Medicare when you say we're giving them?

00:42:59.000 So, a company called Centene, which is a $150 billion company, we give them 97% of their revenue, yet we have no equity in that.

00:43:07.000 So, what are we doing?

00:43:08.000 Is my question.

00:43:09.000 We're acting as a poor fiduciary.

00:43:12.000 And if we were to get equity in it, well, that incentivizes this publicly traded company to grow, to manage for its shareholders, because we are the shareholders now, too.

00:43:22.000 The government, if we're going to give all this money away, which is our money that we pay in taxes, well, we need a benefit, and we don't have one right now.

00:43:29.000 And we've never looked at the government as a publicly traded corporation.

00:43:32.000 It's time to look at the government.

00:43:33.000 Are you a Medicare for all guy?

00:43:35.000 I am a healthcare is a basic right, but Medicare for all is not going to work.

00:43:38.000 What is that ever going to work?

00:43:39.000 What is the basic right, though?

00:43:41.000 I believe that healthcare should be free for all American citizens and that we should have something much more similar to the way the uniformed services have them.

00:43:50.000 That people are subsidized to go to medical school, that they benefit the community, basic treatment, normal healthcare.

00:43:58.000 Hold on, hold on. 1.00

00:43:59.000 You'd have to deport every illegal immigrant to do that. 1.00

00:44:02.000 Well, I think we should have closed borders. 0.96

00:44:04.000 And then I think what we should do is when we do that, well, then you can start enforcing through the actual employers, right?

00:44:10.000 So when ICE went in in the Central Valley of California, They stopped enforcing because all of the large corporate farmers said, Hey, this is really affecting us, right?

00:44:19.000 So they went elsewhere.

00:44:21.000 What I'm saying is that we're always going to have certain labor groups that we're never going to be able to actually fulfill with domestic.

00:44:28.000 I feel like you're missing that's that, absolutely not.

00:44:29.000 That's a you don't think so?

00:44:30.000 Absolute myth.

00:44:32.000 When in Trump's first term, ICE raided three meat processing plants and deported something like 800 people.

00:44:39.000 And within a week, there were lines out the door from American born Americans trying to get jobs.

00:44:46.000 One of the guys getting interviewed.

00:44:48.000 White dude was asked, Why do you want to work here?

00:44:50.000 Americans simply don't take these jobs.

00:44:52.000 He goes, It pays more than the gas station.

00:44:54.000 Well, and with those processing plants, I agree.

00:44:56.000 I was talking about farm work, but with this, I agree.

00:44:59.000 Like, let's look at Smithfield in Virginia.

00:45:02.000 The companies, the farms, should pay a wage that attracts American workers to work those fields.

00:45:08.000 I just don't know if in the free form of capitalism we have now that'll happen, but going to Smithfield.

00:45:08.000 I agree with that.

00:45:12.000 Oh, it'll absolutely happen.

00:45:14.000 Okay.

00:45:14.000 And I would love that.

00:45:14.000 Okay.

00:45:16.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:45:18.000 We're opening up a coffee shop.

00:45:20.000 How would you like a job working behind the counter running the cash register for me?

00:45:24.000 How much?

00:45:25.000 Good question.

00:45:26.000 And that is the correct question.

00:45:28.000 How much do you want?

00:45:29.000 I mean, for me, you know, if I can come on here once a week, I call it $25 an hour, I would do that for it.

00:45:35.000 Service with a smile.

00:45:36.000 It's a medical investment.

00:45:37.000 You nailed it for yourself.

00:45:37.000 No, no, no.

00:45:38.000 It used to be.

00:45:39.000 Hold on.

00:45:40.000 That was the correct response.

00:45:42.000 Most people say, no, I wouldn't want to work that job.

00:45:45.000 No, no, the correct answer is, how much?

00:45:47.000 Yeah.

00:45:48.000 And that's the question that these farms, when they put up jobs saying, We need people to work these fields.

00:45:53.000 It's not a question of Americans don't want to do it.

00:45:55.000 It's a question that they don't want to pay.

00:45:57.000 Their concern is this is a sickness our country has, where a lot of these farms say, listen, we pay 10 to 15 bucks an hour.

00:46:04.000 Typically, Americans don't want to do that because they want to find a higher paying job.

00:46:07.000 Well, then pay 20, 25 an hour.

00:46:09.000 Yeah, but that means I got to sell the kale for like 30 bucks.

00:46:12.000 Indeed, you do.

00:46:13.000 And then the people who want it will have to pay 30 bucks to get it.

00:46:16.000 But guess what?

00:46:17.000 They're working on your farm for 30 bucks an hour.

00:46:19.000 That's the point. 1.00

00:46:20.000 When we do this game of bringing in illegal immigrants, it is, it is, It's an addiction that drags the system down and stunts the economy. 1.00

00:46:28.000 Destroys it on purpose. 1.00

00:46:29.000 And now we have simultaneously people like Zorhan Mamdani saying people aren't getting paid enough, so food's too expensive.

00:46:35.000 So we're going to do government grocery stores and things like this.

00:46:39.000 The government is, I'll put it like this.

00:46:43.000 A lot of libertarians say government is the problem.

00:46:45.000 I don't agree with that.

00:46:46.000 I'm not a staunch libertarian on government.

00:46:48.000 Government should be enforcing our labor laws and our immigration laws to protect the American people so that these companies don't do these things.

00:46:54.000 I agree with Bernie in 2016 when he said open borders is a Koch brothers proposal.

00:46:59.000 We don't want to do that.

00:47:00.000 I firmly believe that if we were to make these jobs competitive, that guy who burned down that factory in Ontario.

00:47:08.000 He wanted $27 an hour.

00:47:10.000 I thought he was getting it.

00:47:11.000 The rumor is that he was getting it.

00:47:13.000 Yeah, well, the reporting I saw was that he was getting $27 an hour and he said it wasn't enough.

00:47:17.000 Because the Ori was getting 23.

00:47:17.000 Yeah.

00:47:20.000 I looked up the average income for that factory, it was $23 an hour.

00:47:25.000 So this guy said, that's not enough. 0.97

00:47:26.000 And it's funny because some other guy interviewed said, it sucks. 0.78

00:47:29.000 I just started making good money working here.

00:47:31.000 But again, to the point, not to interrupt, but you can jump back to where you're at. 1.00

00:47:35.000 I think that I got to be honest, you go to a Gen Z guy who's 18 and say, you want to work the farms, they're going to be like, fuck, how much does it pay? 1.00

00:47:45.000 And they're going to say, how much do you want? 1.00

00:47:46.000 I'd be like, I don't know.

00:47:47.000 And I got to tell you, 20 bucks an hour, they'd be like, all right, I guess.

00:47:52.000 Roll up your sleeves.

00:47:54.000 But also, too, with that, it's that anyone 18 to 20, right?

00:47:58.000 Like, either they're going to go to college, they're going to take out loans, they're going to screw up the rest of their life by doing that, right?

00:48:03.000 The hobby is going to be destroyed by AI.

00:48:03.000 Yep.

00:48:06.000 But this is what I'm getting at with the community college system that we have to have an entire rethinking of education.

00:48:13.000 That 18 to 20, you should be able to go work at the farm $20 an hour, $25.

00:48:18.000 Figure out if you like that or not.

00:48:19.000 Maybe you want to be in upper management of the farm, which seems very slim because it's a farm.

00:48:23.000 But that we have to really think about this because meaning has to be provided in work too, right?

00:48:28.000 And I think that's my biggest concern with where we're going with AI.

00:48:32.000 That if we remove meaning from work, what do we have?

00:48:35.000 Our culture was built because of the industrious nature of the American people.

00:48:41.000 And that is something that we need innately to our core.

00:48:44.000 And if we don't have that, then who are we?

00:48:46.000 Yeah, I think we have a cultural problem.

00:48:49.000 Yes. 0.99

00:48:49.000 That if you go to a Gen Z guy who's just sitting there on Instagram scrolling and say, you can actually start working right now to save up. 0.99

00:48:58.000 All you got to do is go work on a farm. 1.00

00:48:59.000 They're going to be like, no.

00:49:00.000 Because they don't believe in the future.

00:49:02.000 There's a viral video that I want to pull up that I got everybody all mad at me for because they're like, no, Tim, you're wrong. 0.97

00:49:08.000 This woman is correct. 0.94

00:49:09.000 But this woman is not correct. 1.00

00:49:10.000 She's a commie. 0.68

00:49:11.000 And let me pull this.

00:49:12.000 The video is going massively viral.

00:49:13.000 I think you guys know what it is.

00:49:14.000 I got it right here.

00:49:18.000 Let's play this video. 1.00

00:49:19.000 She swears a whole lot. 1.00

00:49:20.000 She swears a whole lot.

00:49:20.000 It's kind of annoying.

00:49:21.000 There we go.

00:49:23.000 I gotta unmute it. 0.98

00:49:24.000 We are living all types of fucking wrong. 0.97

00:49:26.000 Like, you mean to tell me. 0.99

00:49:28.000 I've actually fucking had it with the United States of America because, baby, we are living all types of fucking wrong. 0.98

00:49:33.000 We're not. 0.99

00:49:34.000 Like, you mean to tell me I gotta go to work 40, sometimes 50 hours a week, only to get two weeks of paid vacation while the rest of the world gets fucking five. 0.73

00:49:41.000 Peasants used to get 154 days off. 0.99

00:49:44.000 I'm not even treated like a fucking peasant anymore. 0.99

00:49:47.000 I gotta drive an hour to work and back if I'm lucky. 1.00

00:49:49.000 If I pay to fucking commute, I'm paying for a train or a bus or an Uber fucking ride. 0.99

00:49:54.000 And if I'm not doing that, then I'm paying for fucking tolls on. 1.00

00:49:56.000 Fucking roads that my tax dollars already pay to build and fucking maintain. 1.00

00:50:00.000 I gotta pay to get a fucking driver's license or a license plate for the fucking driving on the roads that my tax dollars again paid to build and fucking maintain. 1.00

00:50:09.000 Then I need an oil change. 1.00

00:50:11.000 It's higher rotation. 1.00

00:50:12.000 Pads are fucking $1,000 per axle on a base model Kia Optima, bitch, since fucking when? 1.00

00:50:17.000 We get it. 1.00

00:50:18.000 Let's hold the fucking rules down. 1.00

00:50:19.000 We get it. 1.00

00:50:20.000 Also, that my fucking pedophile of a Satan worshiping baby eating president can blow up fucking children halfway across the world and stop resources. 1.00

00:50:20.000 Sales tax. 1.00

00:50:28.000 We got a looming energy crisis. 0.99

00:50:30.000 We have a fucking food shortage affecting the entire fucking globe. 1.00

00:50:33.000 My tax dollars don't go to fucking healthcare. 1.00

00:50:35.000 They give me just enough healthcare to keep me alive long enough to fucking work. 0.99

00:50:38.000 But let's start from point number one. 0.99

00:50:41.000 Clearly, it's her.

00:50:41.000 In the beginning, she says that peasants got more days off than she did.

00:50:47.000 That's not true.

00:50:48.000 This is because peasants who lived on farms didn't farm in winter, but they still had to struggle to survive, meaning chopping wood and hunting and huddling together for warmth, fearful that if you run out of food or bandidos come, You will die.

00:51:06.000 But I have a solution for her.

00:51:07.000 It's simple. 0.99

00:51:08.000 If you want to live like a peasant, it can be done. 1.00

00:51:12.000 Sudan awaits. 0.99

00:51:15.000 There will be no air conditioning.

00:51:16.000 There will be no internet.

00:51:18.000 You will make $50 per year.

00:51:21.000 You will make barely enough food to get by, but you'll work relatively little compared to what you do here in the United States.

00:51:28.000 With your education, man, you'll be a king over there. 0.98

00:51:31.000 So, what really irks me about these communists, and then she starts talking about Trump being a Satanist pedophile. 0.98

00:51:36.000 Let's go to the next point. 0.96

00:51:38.000 She says, We got a food crisis around the world.

00:51:40.000 I'm.

00:51:42.000 I'm a Democrat.

00:51:42.000 You know what?

00:51:43.000 I'm just every day, I'm more and more on board with how Democrats' political philosophy is we're smarter than you and we know it.

00:51:49.000 So we're going to lord over you by tricking you.

00:51:51.000 I'm kidding, by the way.

00:51:53.000 I'm kidding about me wanting to do that.

00:51:54.000 My point is.

00:51:57.000 Let me ask you a question so we can get through this.

00:52:00.000 If you have a group of people who live in an area and they are consuming all of the food available to them, and so it's not enough and they're starving, what will happen if you bring food to them?

00:52:13.000 They will become dependent on me.

00:52:14.000 Why?

00:52:15.000 Why?

00:52:17.000 Because I'll keep feeding them.

00:52:20.000 Why would they become dependent on you for food?

00:52:22.000 Because I would be providing them the resource and they wouldn't need an alternative because I'm providing them.

00:52:27.000 Is it there isn't one?

00:52:27.000 I thought they wouldn't need it.

00:52:29.000 So if you have starving people, And you say, we're going to go to an area where people can't produce enough food and bring food from somewhere else, they will need that forever.

00:52:39.000 And here's where it gets real good.

00:52:42.000 Do you know what those people will then do if you are feeding them consistently?

00:52:47.000 They will bite the hand that feeds you.

00:52:48.000 No.

00:52:49.000 What will people do when they have adequate food?

00:52:52.000 They're fat and lazy?

00:52:53.000 No. 1.00

00:52:54.000 Anybody?

00:52:55.000 Hey, phone a friend.

00:52:56.000 They'll have children.

00:52:57.000 They'll have children.

00:52:58.000 They'll make more people.

00:53:00.000 And then guess what?

00:53:01.000 Then they'll knock on your door and say, we have three new babies. 0.66

00:53:04.000 We need more food.

00:53:05.000 So, it is impossible, functionally, physically, and economically impossible to solve the hunger crisis because we don't live surrounded by Star Trek replicators.

00:53:16.000 If there is a region on the planet that produces, let's just say, 7 million calories, and you have a population that consumes that 7 million calories per year, they cannot produce more people beyond the amount of calories available for consumption.

00:53:31.000 If you then bring in artificially 1 million calories and they consume it, They will then reach population equilibrium with the artificial influx of food.

00:53:41.000 Then, when you take that food away, they will starve and you have more starving people and they will require a larger subsidy, creating an impossible and endless cycle.

00:53:49.000 But these people who post these videos, these are first order thinkers.

00:53:53.000 Mary Morgan said literacy was a mistake because people can't understand the things they're actually reading.

00:53:58.000 And sometimes I agree.

00:54:00.000 I don't know if I'd go so far, but man, sometimes you feel it. 1.00

00:54:03.000 Because this is how you get communists Zorhan Mamdani opening his stupid government grocery store. 0.99

00:54:08.000 Did you see this? 1.00

00:54:09.000 $30 million to open a 9,000 square foot grocery store in three years.

00:54:15.000 It takes a year and I think two to five million dollars to open a comparable grocery store in the private sector.

00:54:21.000 Mom Dhani then said, but actually, only bread, milk, and eggs are going to be reduced cost.

00:54:26.000 Everything else will be the same.

00:54:28.000 That's government.

00:54:30.000 It's not going to solve the problem.

00:54:31.000 He's going to create this, it's going to be like the DMV.

00:54:35.000 It's going to be like Pruitt Igo.

00:54:37.000 There's going to be crime, poverty, and theft.

00:54:40.000 The people who work there are going to look away if people are stealing everything.

00:54:44.000 It's going to struggle to make money.

00:54:46.000 The funny thing about it is that it's $30 million despite the fact they already own the land.

00:54:51.000 No, I think it's Arun Mandani going to his buddy and being like, hey, man, I'm going to make you a millionaire.

00:54:51.000 You know what I think it is?

00:54:57.000 You're going to do the contract work for us.

00:54:58.000 We're going to hire you, and I'm going to give you $30 million for it.

00:55:01.000 And his friend goes, I don't know, man.

00:55:03.000 It only costs $5 million to do the job.

00:55:05.000 Nah, that's how the government works.

00:55:06.000 You know, I wonder what would happen if somebody stole from the government owned grocery store and if Police got involved, would they get physical with him?

00:55:14.000 And then what Zorhan Mamdani's response would be to that?

00:55:17.000 Everything has shown us.

00:55:19.000 That's not going to happen.

00:55:20.000 I just, I love.

00:55:21.000 No, but he's just anti cop, I guess would be the.

00:55:23.000 And I love that she's just complaining about like basic functions of the first world.

00:55:26.000 It costs money to get a driver's license and to register my car.

00:55:29.000 I'm like, yeah, that's called winging America. 1.00

00:55:33.000 Speaking of is just a larger hopelessness that Gen Z has, right? 0.98

00:55:37.000 And it's because if you look at housing prices based off the median wage, it's gone astronomically since 1990. 0.97

00:55:44.000 That's true, but I will stress this.

00:55:47.000 There is a standard of life, of living, that Gen Z and millennials expect that did not exist for boomers and Gen X at the time.

00:55:55.000 And they want the luxuries as well as the excess. 0.74

00:55:59.000 And historically, it always got better for the next generation.

00:56:03.000 That is not true now.

00:56:05.000 And so I can understand some of that angst.

00:56:07.000 That being said, you can always move to rural West Virginia where you're two hours away from a bunch of major metros.

00:56:14.000 So if you move to, let's just say, you go slightly inland from the Eastern Panhandle in West Virginia.

00:56:20.000 You can find a bungalow for a hundred grand.

00:56:23.000 I know you don't have a hundred grand, but it's okay.

00:56:25.000 You can get it for $5,000 down, which means you do got to save up.

00:56:28.000 And then you're going to be spending $600 a month on your mortgage.

00:56:31.000 And you can farm, largely not need to make much money if you're growing your own food in your yard, which is not too difficult.

00:56:39.000 And then you get your car.

00:56:40.000 You can drive a couple hours to be in any major metro that you want.

00:56:44.000 I'm not saying it is preferable.

00:56:46.000 I'm not saying that it's good for our generation.

00:56:48.000 But to complain about, I got to pay tolls and I got to register my car and I got to do all these things, it's like.

00:56:54.000 Indeed, you do, but you could choose to do something else.

00:56:57.000 What she is saying is, I want luxuries, but cannot produce enough for society to give me ease of access.

00:57:05.000 I will never be on the side of a person who's like, I want more, but I can't produce.

00:57:12.000 That's called nature.

00:57:13.000 I'm sorry.

00:57:14.000 Have a nice day.

00:57:15.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:57:16.000 But to your point, that example, that's the most American way of living that there is, right?

00:57:21.000 Self subsistence.

00:57:22.000 Like, this is what Jefferson fought against Hamilton for.

00:57:27.000 Decentralization, the idea of an agrarian society.

00:57:31.000 And then you look at urban areas, like let's look at Fairfax County, Loudoun County, the spread Arlington through from DC, where now, okay, you go, you drive your Tesla, you eat your corporate slot bowl for $15 at lunch, maybe $20.

00:57:46.000 Then you go to your rented apartment that's owned by a private equity firm.

00:57:50.000 You'll own nothing and you'll be happy because you're consumed by your phone.

00:57:53.000 That's what that's derivative of.

00:57:55.000 Leave.

00:57:56.000 But I think she's articulating a completely different.

00:57:59.000 I agree that the root of this is nihilism, but. 1.00

00:58:01.000 I think there's like two splintering resolutions for this nihilism you're seeing among Zoomers. 1.00

00:58:07.000 Some Zoomers look to the right and they say, Well, I don't have meaning in my life. 0.98

00:58:09.000 Like, that's the issue. 0.85

00:58:10.000 I don't have meaning.

00:58:11.000 Everything feels like pointless.

00:58:12.000 I feel a void inside of myself.

00:58:13.000 That's not what she's articulating.

00:58:14.000 She's articulating a shortage of material items. 0.83

00:58:17.000 That's why she's finding difficulty participating.

00:58:19.000 So, in her instance, again, where I was like, She's having trouble sort of articulating what her problem is.

00:58:24.000 And she starts lashing out, like, again, first world amenities. 0.90

00:58:27.000 It's like, You would still be a loser even if you got all those things.

00:58:32.000 The thing she wants and just go to pure numbers.

00:58:35.000 She says, I require X amount of monetary units.

00:58:39.000 I only produce X minus five monetary units.

00:58:42.000 I am so mad at the United States.

00:58:45.000 The problem is, we as a nation, the West really subsidizes people who are net negative production.

00:58:53.000 That ends in only the worst imaginable ways.

00:58:53.000 Yes.

00:58:58.000 And people die.

00:59:00.000 So you have the thing about humans that's interesting that sets them apart from, say, deer.

00:59:06.000 A few years ago, we had a deer overpopulation issue in Western Maryland.

00:59:10.000 They had consumed all of the available food and reproduced like crazy.

00:59:15.000 So they were all very gaunt and sickly and slow.

00:59:17.000 And it caused a lot of car accidents.

00:59:19.000 And they were like, I guess the government, I think the government was saying, like, guys, you need to go hunt these deer.

00:59:23.000 There's too many.

00:59:23.000 It's deer.

00:59:24.000 It says, and go, you need to cull them so that they go below equilibrium so that they don't all be nasty, sickly, and diseased.

00:59:32.000 The problem is, deer walk around eating leaves and things like that, berries or whatever.

00:59:38.000 Humans rely on other humans for various tasks.

00:59:42.000 One human will gather, one human will hunt, one will make the fire in the shelter, and then we combine those resources.

00:59:48.000 Because of this mentality we've had, we have built a society that tries to subsidize everybody else because we're trying to be like, I'll provide for you, you provide for me.

00:59:56.000 The only problem is, in the wild, if one person was producing in detriment, a negative, they were consuming more than they were producing, it was tolerated only to a certain point until the society failed.

01:00:07.000 Or they cast that person out.

01:00:08.000 In modern society, where we don't know our neighbors and we don't talk, it's difficult to see who is a consumer and who is a producer. 0.94

01:00:17.000 This woman is complaining that she is a consumer who wants more.

01:00:21.000 The problem this is what leads to communism.

01:00:24.000 I am a producer.

01:00:25.000 I work an insane amount of time, I work 16 hours every day and sometimes on weekends.

01:00:29.000 They then come to me and say, We should take from you because you produce too much.

01:00:33.000 Okay, I'll stop and I'll just work the bare minimum.

01:00:36.000 So, what do I do?

01:00:38.000 Well, everything's expensive.

01:00:39.000 What did I do?

01:00:40.000 We moved out to West Virginia where land is cheap.

01:00:42.000 We build here where labor is cheaper.

01:00:44.000 And now we have a large property with a big studio at a much, much lower cost.

01:00:49.000 Instead, you know what I should have done?

01:00:50.000 I regret it.

01:00:51.000 I should have complained to the government and demanded that they steal the assets from wealthy people and give it to me so that I can have it.

01:00:57.000 Then I can live in the city.

01:00:59.000 That doesn't make sense.

01:01:00.000 No, it doesn't.

01:01:01.000 But it's also a system of design by how our government functions, right?

01:01:04.000 Because we give people things for free.

01:01:06.000 We subsidize, right?

01:01:08.000 To your point.

01:01:08.000 But until we change this whole thing where we provide basic necessities, but then you allow the individual to rise, which is what America was founded upon, that's the only way this works.

01:01:18.000 But we're in an over levered society right now.

01:01:21.000 We can't keep doing this.

01:01:22.000 Universal basic income will never work.

01:01:23.000 No, it won't at all.

01:01:24.000 It'll destroy.

01:01:25.000 But this plays into universal health care as well.

01:01:28.000 Sure.

01:01:28.000 You're subsidizing the health of individuals who can't pay for it themselves.

01:01:33.000 That system is guaranteed to collapse.

01:01:35.000 It's high school basic math.

01:01:38.000 Not even high school, it's grade school math.

01:01:39.000 Input is negative, output is positive, system goes bankrupt.

01:01:43.000 But when the medical cost ratios are mandated by governments for health insurers, rather, well, that system's all an artificial.

01:01:51.000 We can agree that the structure we have is broken, that the healthcare pricing makes no sense, and there's got to be a change to it.

01:01:59.000 But the idea that as a country you can guarantee all healthcare for everybody, not all, you know, basic.

01:02:06.000 I agree with basic.

01:02:07.000 Sure.

01:02:08.000 And my argument is if you break your wrist, you walk in, they set it for you.

01:02:11.000 Like, so you're saying how you would define it, just to be clear, like an urgent care setting type thing?

01:02:17.000 Okay.

01:02:17.000 I fully agree with that.

01:02:18.000 I think we should have publicly funded urgent care.

01:02:22.000 I love that.

01:02:23.000 And so that means your average, like, I've had to go to urgent care.

01:02:26.000 Yeah.

01:02:27.000 And it's not a big deal, it's not super expensive.

01:02:30.000 And I wouldn't mind paying the 40 bucks for somebody who needs to go in and see a doctor for 10, 15 minutes so they can get some Tamiflu and not die of the flu.

01:02:36.000 Yeah.

01:02:36.000 The problem with universal health care.

01:02:38.000 In the bigger picture, is that there are a lot of people with more complicated illnesses that require millions of dollars in treatments.

01:02:44.000 And we're never going to be able to cover all those, right?

01:02:45.000 Surgeries and other crazy things.

01:02:47.000 Or advanced treatments that if you have a little bit more money, you want to go down to Boca Raton, we're never going to be able to do that.

01:02:52.000 I think I don't see a big problem with stipend urgent care kind of systems where if you go to urgent care, here's what we have to be careful of.

01:03:01.000 If the government guarantees things to doctors, then people will overuse it.

01:03:06.000 Yes. 0.92

01:03:07.000 And it will result in perverse incentives.

01:03:11.000 Are you familiar with the old apocryphal story about the snakes in India or whatever?

01:03:16.000 Was it the snakes?

01:03:16.000 It was in India or something.

01:03:18.000 This is probably not the correct version.

01:03:20.000 But it's like the British colonials in India were like, we got a bunch of snakes in this village.

01:03:20.000 I'll look it up.

01:03:25.000 So they said to the villagers, if you bring us the heads of snakes, we will pay you for them.

01:03:30.000 This will wipe the snakes out.

01:03:31.000 So what did the villagers do?

01:03:32.000 They started breeding snakes.

01:03:35.000 Smart.

01:03:36.000 So you have to be careful about subsidizing things to create a perverse incentive.

01:03:39.000 Absolutely.

01:03:40.000 The general idea is there was a story about a 12 year old kid who got the flu, and the parents didn't know what to do and they couldn't afford to go to the hospital.

01:03:47.000 He died.

01:03:48.000 And they were like, it was just a bad flu.

01:03:50.000 And if they gave him even a little bit of medicine to get his femur down, he could have survived.

01:03:53.000 I'm like, that kid should not have died for that. 1.00

01:03:54.000 That's stupid. 1.00

01:03:55.000 Or the stories of people who like break a bone and they don't go to the hospital because they're like, I don't want to get a bill. 1.00

01:04:00.000 Or people who have emergencies and won't call an ambulance.

01:04:04.000 Yo, I had an emergency, I called a taxi.

01:04:08.000 I called a cab.

01:04:09.000 Yeah.

01:04:09.000 I was like, bro, I'm not spending 500 bucks.

01:04:12.000 So in 2014, I got a kidney stone hanging at my friend's house, and all of a sudden it felt like I got stabbed.

01:04:17.000 And I was like, oh my God, something's wrong.

01:04:19.000 And so I was like, the hospital's a half mile away.

01:04:22.000 I just used the NYC cab app and called a cab.

01:04:25.000 And I was like, you're in New York, though.

01:04:25.000 Yeah.

01:04:27.000 That's the thing.

01:04:27.000 They had cabs.

01:04:28.000 Yeah.

01:04:29.000 But I was like, I'll spend the 10 bucks on the cab.

01:04:31.000 I'm not spending 500 on an ambulance.

01:04:32.000 That's interesting.

01:04:32.000 Exactly.

01:04:34.000 That's kind of nuts.

01:04:34.000 But I do understand an ambulance is expensive.

01:04:38.000 So finding that balance is very difficult.

01:04:40.000 I think.

01:04:41.000 Universal basic health care, which is you are sick, a doctor will see you.

01:04:46.000 General care.

01:04:47.000 General care and emergency rooms, they're relatively cheap as it is.

01:04:52.000 I don't think they will be overrun by people if we subsidize that to a certain degree.

01:04:58.000 To a certain degree, I say.

01:04:59.000 That means catastrophic, serious injuries that require deep surgery.

01:05:02.000 You're going to get treatment for you.

01:05:04.000 We're not going to let you die.

01:05:04.000 We're going to treat you.

01:05:05.000 We need to figure out how to absorb those costs without putting that on everybody else, which is what happens.

01:05:11.000 I don't know how you solve for this.

01:05:12.000 It's not easy.

01:05:13.000 So, how you do it is that we're giving away $1.5 trillion a year to Medicaid companies.

01:05:19.000 You look at a company like Centene, $150 billion.

01:05:23.000 We don't get anything in return.

01:05:24.000 So, going back to your point, we're.

01:05:26.000 When you say we get nothing in return, aren't we receiving the health care services in return?

01:05:30.000 Am I making something?

01:05:31.000 So, it's a redistribution of the wealth.

01:05:31.000 The people are, right?

01:05:33.000 We're paying on their behalf, though.

01:05:34.000 We're paying taxes to the government for then the government to send and just give away to then treat people who don't pay taxes.

01:05:41.000 Well, you want health care for everybody.

01:05:42.000 So, they're not just giving it away to people who presumably would need it.

01:05:46.000 But if 97% of revenue for, say, a centene comes from government distributions, well, we're in the negotiating seat.

01:05:55.000 We should get equity in it that builds, that grows, so that that company runs.

01:05:59.000 You want healthcare for everybody.

01:06:01.000 How else?

01:06:01.000 I'm trying to understand.

01:06:02.000 Basic healthcare.

01:06:03.000 If the government isn't the one providing that, then how else would you get there?

01:06:07.000 Because I think what you're explaining now is the government's already heavily involved, and we should.

01:06:12.000 In terms of giving money away, which is not capitalism.

01:06:14.000 I think providing healthcare for everybody would only get the government more involved.

01:06:18.000 With paying for these services and the healthcare companies would make even more money.

01:06:22.000 And the perverse incentive would pay more money.

01:06:24.000 But if we were to actually manage this as a fiduciary democracy rather than giving money away, which to me is socialism, we would be in a much better place.

01:06:32.000 What is it?

01:06:33.000 I mean, do you want a single payer system or a nationalized healthcare system to achieve healthcare for all?

01:06:38.000 No, I believe that corporate law and governance is more successful than we have been at our own governance, right?

01:06:45.000 That you have shareholders, you have fiduciary duty by the company to manage to the shareholders.

01:06:50.000 Okay, so we're going to disperse.

01:06:53.000 All these dollars to help people who need Medicaid, who are not going to pay taxes, right?

01:06:57.000 We know that.

01:06:59.000 Okay, the best company wins on that, but then we get equity in that company.

01:07:03.000 That grows.

01:07:04.000 It grows.

01:07:05.000 There can be disbursements for it.

01:07:06.000 We can all get a chance.

01:07:07.000 And if our equity in that company creates perverse incentives, then the government would have interest in giving contracts and awarding more contracts to that company because we have a stake in it.

01:07:18.000 The government already does this through lobbyists.

01:07:20.000 Politicians are bought and paid for by lobbyists based off the contracts they're going to get.

01:07:25.000 You want the United States to have a stake of ownership in these companies?

01:07:27.000 Yes, it will be a national trust fund, one that then does.

01:07:30.000 You want to nationalize.

01:07:31.000 Our healthcare industry.

01:07:32.000 No, that's not what I said at all.

01:07:34.000 That you would, a trust fund that would have equity in publicly traded companies by default can't be nationalized.

01:07:39.000 No, but just growing equity in these healthcare, they'd be like.

01:07:43.000 But so you're saying you want to just give money away?

01:07:45.000 That's a socialist perspective.

01:07:46.000 No, no.

01:07:47.000 I think that we should have government less involved in healthcare because I think they're the ones setting up perverse incentives and making healthcare costs more expensive by assuring these companies a lot of these contracts, as I understand it.

01:07:58.000 Well, I would say that's the entire employee based insurance system.

01:08:01.000 Well, there is like a narrow, but there is a right wing argument for health insurance.

01:08:01.000 There is.

01:08:06.000 And the primary one, obviously, there's like the nationalist arguments, like, well, healthy workforce means healthy military, et cetera.

01:08:10.000 But it's actually like if you get granular, is if you provide, I'm not arguing for this necessarily, I'm just presenting what the right wing argument would be is that if you provide public health care, the government now becomes directly incentivized and the health, they're directly interested in the health of their citizens and that it increases.

01:08:25.000 So, you know, there's all these MAHA rules.

01:08:26.000 It's population health management.

01:08:27.000 What you're seeing with MAHA now would be kicked on, you know, it'd be on steroids if the government now had stake in the health of the population.

01:08:35.000 Again, I don't know for sure if I subscribe to that, but that would be, in theory, you know, that's what people have presented as sort of the right wing argument for public health care.

01:08:41.000 But to that, and maybe this might make you change your perspective, is so we have this totally sickly population, right? 0.97

01:08:48.000 Look at our military aged men, right? 0.98

01:08:51.000 We pay the most per capita for each individual patient that's, I forget the exact system.

01:08:51.000 Okay.

01:08:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:57.000 And we know it's insane.

01:08:58.000 We pay more per person than countries with nationalized health care system.

01:09:02.000 Exactly.

01:09:03.000 Right.

01:09:03.000 Exactly.

01:09:04.000 And part of that's the overhead.

01:09:05.000 But another part is just our entire food processes to go through.

01:09:09.000 And how did that happen?

01:09:09.000 Through that.

01:09:10.000 Well, in the 90s, a guy I worked for, Blair Efron, who founded Centerview Partners, he did the merger between a very large tobacco company and then Nabisco.

01:09:23.000 It was the largest leveraged buyout at the time.

01:09:25.000 What they then did, and this was the plan because they knew the government was going to come in and start suing all the tobacco companies, they took those scientists behind the most addictive thing at the time, cigarettes, and put them on processed food.

01:09:38.000 And that's why we're all screwed up.

01:09:40.000 Because then that becomes addictive. 0.76

01:09:42.000 That started in the 90s.

01:09:43.000 Now look at where we're at now.

01:09:44.000 People live in food deserts.

01:09:46.000 The government's the problem with all of this because of how it's allocated capital, how it's enforced.

01:09:52.000 I think a lot of the sentiment that in the video that we were watching earlier, it's a sentiment that needs to be dealt with.

01:10:00.000 I think there's a grain of truth in her complaint, and it's that there is an affordability crisis for many in that country.

01:10:08.000 And the resentment that that breeds helps proliferate figures like Zorhan Mamdani.

01:10:12.000 Today's tax day, and he actually just announced a tax, a surcharge on homes valued above $5 million when there is no resident who lives primarily in New York City.

01:10:21.000 This is going to generate the city $500 million.

01:10:24.000 In revenue annually.

01:10:25.000 Would you support something like that?

01:10:27.000 No, absolutely not.

01:10:28.000 I believe our entire tax system is broken, that essentially the lawyer class or caste, as I call it, is captured, allowing then for corporations to screw around with tax codes more.

01:10:39.000 We should move to a consumption based tax.

01:10:41.000 The entire system of taxation is one that hurts the middle class. 0.98

01:10:45.000 It's designed to hurt the middle class.

01:10:47.000 But if we move to a consumption based taxation system, that's more fair.

01:10:51.000 Like, you have more money than me.

01:10:52.000 You want to buy a Lamborghini?

01:10:53.000 You have a lot more money than me.

01:10:53.000 That's fine.

01:10:54.000 You're a lawyer.

01:10:55.000 No, I've part of the lawyer classes you're railing against.

01:10:58.000 I was, I was, but I spent everything that I have to get here to be able to tell you this because this is a message that's just universal fairness.

01:11:05.000 It's not left or right, it's one that we have to structurally change this country.

01:11:10.000 One is consumption based tax.

01:11:12.000 Because, look, if I'm a rich guy and I have all this carried interest, I'm never going to pay the same tax that, like, my father is a military psychologist would pay.

01:11:20.000 That's not fair.

01:11:22.000 Sure.

01:11:22.000 Not everybody starts in the same place.

01:11:23.000 I saw also on your pamphlet that you gave me, Manifesto.

01:11:28.000 Manifesto, you're not taking any corporate PAC money.

01:11:31.000 Why is that?

01:11:31.000 I don't know.

01:11:32.000 Have you been offered any corporate PAC money to reject?

01:11:36.000 I have, um, not a significant amount, but how does that work though?

01:11:40.000 Do they come to you and they're like, We represent a PAC and we want to spend money on you, or do they write a check?

01:11:44.000 They'll say, We'll throw you a fundraiser.

01:11:46.000 And so, what happens is you say, You know, I'm thinking about running for office, maybe you tweet about it, right?

01:11:52.000 First consultants come to me, they say, Okay, you're young, you're charismatic, you're gonna be able to raise a lot of money.

01:11:56.000 We're gonna take 15% of what you raise, put it in a bank account, you'll get that after the election.

01:12:01.000 I thought, Oh, that's how the control first begins.

01:12:05.000 I was thinking about running for Congress.

01:12:07.000 Then we ran a poll because why does no one challenge this guy, Mark Warner?

01:12:10.000 He said he was gonna run for two terms, now he's running for four.

01:12:13.000 He's 71, he really hasn't done anything.

01:12:15.000 All his donors are corporations, the banking class, former bosses.

01:12:21.000 So I run against him, but then I realized no one runs against this guy.

01:12:25.000 Because it's by design.

01:12:26.000 So they try to take you out.

01:12:28.000 And the Democratic Party has so many ways of doing this, whether it's signature fraud, petition fraud, which makes me wonder where all these votes come from.

01:12:36.000 Well, let's talk about your story because you're a Democrat, but they kicked you out.

01:12:39.000 Yes.

01:12:39.000 Why?

01:12:40.000 They kicked me out.

01:12:41.000 One, I disagreed with gerrymandering.

01:12:43.000 And so Senator Louise Lucas, the head of the Virginia State Senate, came out against me with that.

01:12:49.000 And then I was instructed by someone within the party to hire a certain guy to help get signatures because you need 10,000 signatures to get on the ballot, right?

01:12:49.000 Wow.

01:12:58.000 Yeah.

01:12:59.000 Well, the party is the one that vets the signatures.

01:13:02.000 So I start looking through these signatures.

01:13:03.000 I see my own name on there.

01:13:05.000 Whoa.

01:13:05.000 Uh huh.

01:13:06.000 What?

01:13:06.000 Yeah.

01:13:07.000 So I develop an AI to do some handwriting analysis, send it to a forensics guy.

01:13:11.000 Majority of these are forged.

01:13:13.000 It turns out petition signature getting fraud is a very common thing.

01:13:17.000 It's cottage industry.

01:13:18.000 Yeah.

01:13:19.000 So they'll get the first like two, three signatures on a page.

01:13:21.000 Then it's called tabling.

01:13:23.000 The group will then fill it out to you.

01:13:25.000 Pass it around and like.

01:13:26.000 Yeah.

01:13:27.000 And then you can look at it and just see.

01:13:28.000 So if I had turned those in and hadn't realized that, they either could have destroyed me at that point.

01:13:32.000 Or had control over me for my entire political career.

01:13:35.000 Wow.

01:13:36.000 Because then they come back to you and they say, hey, guess what?

01:13:38.000 You committed fraud.

01:13:39.000 You work for us now or go to prison.

01:13:41.000 And that's what they do to everyone, which is why when Santos, who was just here, and he said I was going to have a blast, so, you know, and I am, but he said 500 out of 538 are compromised in the House.

01:13:50.000 Like, that's true.

01:13:52.000 It's by design to represent the people, you're compromised.

01:13:56.000 So they, you were, what is it, act blue?

01:13:59.000 That's what happened.

01:14:00.000 Like, you were collecting donations and they just cut you off.

01:14:03.000 And you were a Democrat.

01:14:05.000 And you have 14 days to file your paperwork to switch to an independent.

01:14:05.000 Yeah, I was.

01:14:09.000 They cut me off within an hour of dropping the video saying I was going to do that.

01:14:13.000 Then the next platform, Numero, they dropped me too.

01:14:15.000 I'm trying to understand.

01:14:16.000 So you have to use WinRed.

01:14:18.000 Would they let you use WinRed?

01:14:19.000 I bet they would.

01:14:21.000 This is crazy.

01:14:22.000 He's literally a Democrat that got kicked out, though.

01:14:22.000 Why?

01:14:24.000 Because the Republicans, this is what the Republicans do.

01:14:26.000 I'm a patriot.

01:14:27.000 I consider myself America only, that my view is.

01:14:30.000 Republicans.

01:14:31.000 No, no, no.

01:14:32.000 Republicans would come out and you would get one of the members of Congress saying it is a disgrace that they removed him from the ability to fundraise for no justifiable reason.

01:14:42.000 This platform is supposed to be neutral fundraising.

01:14:45.000 This should be illegal.

01:14:46.000 Well, let's talk about it in a larger picture, right?

01:14:49.000 If this is all by design in a theoretical crazy world, right?

01:14:52.000 Well, every college campus that I'm scheduled at gets canceled a day before.

01:14:56.000 I find out Mark Warner hires the head of the college Dems to become an intern.

01:15:00.000 He hired 500 across Virginia, so I can't speak to colleges.

01:15:04.000 Then we have the signature stuff, and now we have the payment processors.

01:15:08.000 It's a system by design.

01:15:09.000 It's RICO.

01:15:09.000 This was during the primary, the Democrat primary, okay, where they were trying to squeeze you out because he's an incumbent, obviously.

01:15:15.000 And he's also the main fundraising arm for the DNC.

01:15:15.000 Exactly.

01:15:17.000 That makes a lot of sense.

01:15:18.000 I want to ask, though, it's a bit curious because the U.S. Senate is quite ambitious.

01:15:21.000 Yes.

01:15:22.000 You haven't served in public office prior to this, as I understand.

01:15:24.000 Why aren't you going for something lower level? 1.00

01:15:26.000 This race is a long shot. 0.95

01:15:27.000 It makes me, I'm a little bit cynical.

01:15:29.000 It makes me question why you're even running.

01:15:31.000 But I mean, what is the purpose of running?

01:15:33.000 And then why not run for something, a lower office, a little bit, somewhere where you might be able to actually win?

01:15:38.000 First, I was going to run for Congress initially against Don Byer in the 8th District.

01:15:38.000 Sure.

01:15:42.000 He's 76.

01:15:43.000 Sold my dad a lemon of Volvo, so I have some anger against him.

01:15:46.000 You know all these politicians, man.

01:15:48.000 You're kind of sketching.

01:15:49.000 I mean, I grew up in McLean, Virginia.

01:15:50.000 What do you expect?

01:15:51.000 I was produced by the beast, which is why I hate it.

01:15:54.000 And I look at it, and the system is by design to pick the worst amongst us to represent us, right?

01:16:00.000 Because only people who are willing to sacrifice their morals and values will run for office.

01:16:05.000 And they get compromised every day.

01:16:06.000 So, what happened in that race?

01:16:07.000 So, you couldn't primary him?

01:16:09.000 Oh, no, no, I could have, but we ran a poll because I was just genuinely curious.

01:16:12.000 Why does no one challenge Mark Warner?

01:16:13.000 Why is he running for a fourth?

01:16:15.000 Because he's an incumbent, and Democrats would rather go after competitive races to try to build their coalition.

01:16:19.000 I mean, that's just the basic.

01:16:20.000 To me, it's Virginia, right?

01:16:22.000 Like, let the best ideas win.

01:16:23.000 I believe that we should live in a society where we have the best ideas. 0.81

01:16:25.000 But you understand why these political groups would want to fuck money, not for people to primary their incumbents. 0.90

01:16:32.000 They want to. 0.99

01:16:32.000 Or it's that he has dementia, and then what happens is after three, six, 12 months. 0.99

01:16:37.000 He steps down, says he wants to spend more time with his family, and then Spanberger gets to a point.

01:16:42.000 Whoever, let's say, you know, a woman named Dorothy McAuliffe.

01:16:45.000 Backdoor dealing.

01:16:45.000 Yeah.

01:16:46.000 You're totally right.

01:16:46.000 That's what it is.

01:16:47.000 So, and I can't, I don't want to live with it.

01:16:49.000 What do you hope to achieve, though, with this campaign?

01:16:51.000 You're a long shot, to say the least.

01:16:53.000 The message.

01:16:54.000 The message is that things by design are screwed up.

01:16:57.000 This two party system is what Washington warned us against, right?

01:17:00.000 That it'll create artificial division.

01:17:02.000 Like all of us, we would identify with different parties right here at this table, but we're only given two options.

01:17:07.000 And I look at it as now is the right time for a new political party, one that puts America first.

01:17:12.000 America only, and then we can deal with the rest of the world.

01:17:15.000 Why did the progression from being a Democrat to being America first and America only?

01:17:20.000 A few months ago, you were a Democrat.

01:17:22.000 Why not?

01:17:22.000 That's quite the evolution.

01:17:23.000 Why don't you just browse Republican?

01:17:25.000 Well, I very much disagree with the enforcement of ICE that I look at it as one that it.

01:17:32.000 There's a guy now.

01:17:33.000 His name is Victor.

01:17:35.000 Day labor. 1.00

01:17:36.000 He gets his ass beat, pulled over the side of the road, speeding. 0.99

01:17:38.000 I speed all the time, but he gets beat. 1.00

01:17:40.000 They hurt him so much, they maim his hand.

01:17:42.000 And I asked him, do you think they did that on purpose?

01:17:44.000 He said, yeah.

01:17:45.000 He gets thrown in the Farmville detention facility for 60 days, right?

01:17:48.000 Like, I look at this, okay, one thing, but let's look at the technology of how they got him.

01:17:55.000 The surveillance state is what's slowly encroaching around us all.

01:17:59.000 We have maybe two years left before we have seven tech oligarchs controlling us, right?

01:18:04.000 So all that tech's being used by ICE right now, and we're divided over illegal, white, brown, whatever, when we're losing the bigger picture that this country, if it was founded on the premise of a rebellion against oligarchy, well, we're allowing ourselves to consolidate into oligarchy.

01:18:20.000 But the problem is, like with the demographic trends in the United States, like any conservative politician is going to increasingly have a tougher.

01:18:26.000 Pathway to victory.

01:18:27.000 I mean, that's kind of the whole impetus.

01:18:28.000 Ice, like, that's why I ran as a Democrat.

01:18:30.000 Well, yeah, I'm like, I'm sure Ice, like, okay, yeah, there are these instances of brutality or whatever.

01:18:34.000 Like, I'm not denying that. 0.97

01:18:35.000 And I'm like, you know, I'm a pretty staunch, you know, anti immigration guy.

01:18:40.000 But as I see it, I mean, look, you, it has to get done because for anyone that's concerned, even if you're, if you're really concerned about a surveillance state and that sort of thing, with the current demographic trends in the United States, it's just going to be completely unfeasible for a candidate on that platform to even win.

01:18:52.000 Do you, do you support Ice?

01:18:54.000 No.

01:18:55.000 Why not?

01:18:56.000 Surveillance state.

01:18:57.000 The technology they're using, the flock cameras that feed into the Palantir database, that is going to come against us all soon.

01:19:03.000 Should illegal immigrants who've committed crimes in our country be deported? 0.96

01:19:07.000 Absolutely. 1.00

01:19:08.000 Okay.

01:19:08.000 I've told you.

01:19:10.000 I shouldn't have the.

01:19:11.000 No, no, no.

01:19:11.000 A lot, a lot, a lot.

01:19:12.000 I take offense to your question.

01:19:13.000 Why?

01:19:14.000 Because you're censored.

01:19:15.000 Should any illegal immigrant be deported? 1.00

01:19:18.000 Well, I wanted to get the gradations first. 1.00

01:19:20.000 I wanted to make it.

01:19:21.000 I'm just like, I get it.

01:19:22.000 I'm just tired of that talking point where.

01:19:25.000 Trump said we're going to deport everybody.

01:19:26.000 And then Democrats came out and said, Trump said he was only going to arrest criminals.

01:19:30.000 No, he's going to deport everyone.

01:19:30.000 Like, what?

01:19:32.000 Your position seems self defeating.

01:19:33.000 If you want to deport illegal criminal aliens, you want to use any technology available to do so. 0.99

01:19:38.000 And then just like the cop out being like, oh, well, I don't want Palantir to have our data. 1.00

01:19:42.000 That's the most effective way to do it. 1.00

01:19:43.000 If you actually want mass deportations, then you're going to have to use some data collection technologies.

01:19:48.000 And I don't understand.

01:19:49.000 But that's going to be used against all of us.

01:19:52.000 I mean, soon we'll have social credit.

01:19:52.000 That's the thing.

01:19:54.000 I'm going to be deported soon.

01:19:55.000 Is that what you're talking about?

01:19:56.000 Yeah, but hold on.

01:19:57.000 But like, this is not an immigration issue.

01:19:59.000 That's what you say.

01:20:00.000 The issue of immigration is not emboldening the AI companies and the surveillance state.

01:20:04.000 That's happening irrespective of the illegal immigration.

01:20:06.000 So, why not at least say we can solve the illegal immigration issue and then we'll deal with the other stuff after the fact?

01:20:11.000 Oh, I fully believe we can solve the illegal immigration issue. 0.85

01:20:14.000 We should have closed borders. 0.87

01:20:15.000 We should have the safest and most secure borders that there are. 0.99

01:20:19.000 What do we do about the millions?

01:20:19.000 Why do we not?

01:20:21.000 Like on the street?

01:20:22.000 I mean, lasers, all of this stuff, right?

01:20:24.000 Like, whatever.

01:20:25.000 We're the United States of America.

01:20:25.000 Come on.

01:20:26.000 Great.

01:20:27.000 The border's shut, but we have tens of millions of illegals in our country right now.

01:20:30.000 And then you go after it. 0.98

01:20:32.000 Through the employers first, right?

01:20:33.000 Like, you can offer an amount of money to have people self deport, and I fully believe most will self deport because they don't have money.

01:20:39.000 Well, Trump did do that, and I agree with that.

01:20:40.000 But how?

01:20:41.000 A lot of people did do it.

01:20:42.000 But how are we able to determine who's employing legal immigrants without scraping data? 1.00

01:20:45.000 I mean, it's going to be inevitable. 1.00

01:20:46.000 Like, there's no other way.

01:20:48.000 Random raids on businesses.

01:20:49.000 Well, I mean, you could either.

01:20:50.000 Just kick the door in, just grab the business.

01:20:52.000 I think if the two propositions are random door to door raids of businesses, irrespective of if there's any tips or whatever, versus surveillance state, I mean, I think the surveillance state is actually preferable than just like random door to door raids.

01:21:03.000 You support American hegemony.

01:21:05.000 Palantir is involved heavily in our military.

01:21:07.000 Do you support their involvement in our military and their data collection?

01:21:11.000 That's what helps prop up.

01:21:13.000 Well, I mean, we know that's going to be a massive issue in the future, right?

01:21:16.000 Like 10 years from now, people will be talking about egregious violations of certain various codes that Palantir did in warfare fighting activities.

01:21:24.000 I'm just trying to understand this is what helps us give us the military edge, and you don't want us to use it? 0.72

01:21:29.000 So, what gives us the military edge is not fighting, it's the threat.

01:21:34.000 Of force, we have entirely decimated our shipbuilding industry.

01:21:39.000 As far as Palantir is used in our military, they help us make the military be more effective.

01:21:45.000 I mean, if they can detect a harpy from 100 miles away, like I'm all for that, right?

01:21:49.000 Okay, but that data could be used against us, though.

01:21:51.000 Eventually, down the line, the big bad government can use it.

01:21:53.000 Yeah, no, but seriously, imagine.

01:21:55.000 But do we have politicians talking about that?

01:21:56.000 Like, do we have anyone having an honest debate about this now?

01:21:59.000 I think it's good.

01:21:59.000 I think it helps the military.

01:22:00.000 I think it helps ICE.

01:22:01.000 We have leftists.

01:22:02.000 Okay, I'm just gonna say this Palantir is big.

01:22:04.000 You are identifying real problems in the expansion of the technology surveillance state.

01:22:08.000 We can't do anything about it.

01:22:09.000 We are barreling head first towards a tech apocalypse, a dystopian nightmare.

01:22:15.000 But it's going to happen.

01:22:16.000 There's nothing we can do.

01:22:17.000 Like, there's no reality where a bunch of, like, a million Americans with torches shut down the data centers, shut down these tech companies.

01:22:26.000 Literally never going to happen.

01:22:27.000 It is integrated in our economy.

01:22:28.000 Our adversaries use it against us.

01:22:30.000 We use it against them.

01:22:31.000 It is the nature of reality right now and will get worse. 1.00

01:22:34.000 But even, even, we shouldn't use it to deport illegal immigrants. 1.00

01:22:37.000 You'll never tell.

01:22:37.000 Well, because irrespective of that, I mean, irrespective of that, it's like, okay, without mass deportations, because we're going to get, we're not going to get the birthright citizenship ruling.

01:22:46.000 It's just not going to happen.

01:22:47.000 So without mass deportations, We're not going to have a country in 10.

01:22:50.000 It doesn't matter.

01:22:51.000 Like, it's kind of over.

01:22:52.000 The clock, we probably ran out of time 10 years ago as far as like immigration enforcement.

01:22:56.000 So, I'm kind of willing to break glass in case of emergency in this instance.

01:22:59.000 Yeah.

01:22:59.000 I'm just kind of wondering why this is like your ground zero for that.

01:23:03.000 Cause I look at it, we have two years till this is all over.

01:23:05.000 Like, this is not this.

01:23:08.000 He's right.

01:23:09.000 I've been talking about the AI stuff and people just don't get it.

01:23:13.000 It blows my mind when I bring up the AI stuff and people are like, no, I don't think so.

01:23:17.000 I had a conversation with Joe Robbins a few years ago and he asked me what I thought about.

01:23:21.000 About AI and this video stuff.

01:23:22.000 And I poo pooed it.

01:23:24.000 And I said, I'm not really worried about the deep fake stuff and the videos.

01:23:27.000 Like, I think people are smart.

01:23:29.000 And here we are today.

01:23:30.000 And I was like, boy, was I wrong about that.

01:23:32.000 It is, industries are going to get wiped out overnight.

01:23:35.000 We talked about this a couple of nights ago.

01:23:36.000 The technology that these companies have would end like administrative jobs, managerial jobs will be gone right now.

01:23:44.000 The easiest example without rehashing everything.

01:23:46.000 It is harder to produce a Hollywood quality song than it is.

01:23:51.000 To manage an office with like 10 employees handling insurance accounts.

01:23:55.000 Yeah.

01:23:56.000 The management job is tedious.

01:23:58.000 It doesn't require the greatest of minds to do something.

01:24:01.000 And I think most people who do those jobs would agree that it's largely just about doing busy work.

01:24:05.000 AI can already automate that.

01:24:07.000 And they've intentionally held those capabilities back because it would gut like a quarter of the economy overnight.

01:24:13.000 At least.

01:24:14.000 They released all of the tech, the video and audio stuff because this doesn't have, it won't gut a large portion of the economy.

01:24:21.000 It will gut the Hollywood.

01:24:24.000 Music and Hollywood are in trouble, but that's not going to burn the US economy down the way the administrative work will.

01:24:30.000 Two years from now, just watch, it is going to be insane.

01:24:34.000 In China, and even in the United States, they have factories for distribution, kind of like Amazon.

01:24:40.000 I don't know if Amazon is doing it specifically.

01:24:42.000 I think Amazon is.

01:24:43.000 They're pitch black and there are no lights inside.

01:24:44.000 Have you seen these?

01:24:45.000 No.

01:24:45.000 They're big windowless blocks, and inside, little robots are going around moving boxes and bringing them to trucks for delivery.

01:24:52.000 They don't need lights inside because the robots don't use visible spectrum to see where they're going.

01:24:57.000 They use infrared.

01:24:59.000 So we don't need to waste electricity.

01:25:01.000 These are just big black boxes.

01:25:04.000 We are heading to this future.

01:25:06.000 I don't even know if it's fair to say we have two years.

01:25:08.000 What we are seeing in the media landscape, you know what?

01:25:11.000 I'll say this.

01:25:11.000 Maybe the alarm bells are ringing for me because I'm watching it happen in real time with YouTube and AI generated content.

01:25:17.000 I guess just my question is why is ICE the sticking point?

01:25:17.000 Yeah.

01:25:20.000 I mean, I do agree that, you know, there is a potential.

01:25:20.000 Because I mean, like, I agree.

01:25:23.000 You know, risk involved with that.

01:25:24.000 Because he's trying to attract moderate voters that are concerned about ICE.

01:25:26.000 What?

01:25:27.000 I was a Democrat until a month ago?

01:25:29.000 That was the question I get asked, right?

01:25:30.000 Like, honestly, do I think that that's that important?

01:25:32.000 No, not at all.

01:25:34.000 But that's what the president ran on.

01:25:36.000 He ran on mass deportations.

01:25:37.000 And that's holding you from running as a Republican, is purely, I mean, not purely, but like the number one thing is ICE, is the first thing that you cited.

01:25:43.000 Well, that was the first thing I said. 0.92

01:25:44.000 But more structurally, I think both parties are screwed.

01:25:46.000 There's a fracture on the right, but there's a left to be fractured. 0.85

01:25:49.000 I want to break the entire Democratic establishment.

01:25:51.000 I look at it if there were to be.

01:25:54.000 A movement, one America only, America first, what have you, right?

01:25:58.000 Because that branding is fractured from the right.

01:26:00.000 To take the infrastructure of the Libertarian Party, well, that party now can compete, ballot access all 50 states, boom.

01:26:07.000 That's something that will then siphon off votes from the.

01:26:10.000 How is being against ICE an America first and America only position?

01:26:14.000 It's the surveillance.

01:26:15.000 It's through the surveillance?

01:26:16.000 Yeah.

01:26:17.000 I mean, I guess the government shouldn't have a military.

01:26:19.000 Are you opposed to the FBI doing the same thing?

01:26:21.000 Well, I think the FBI is one of, and the CIA, the two worst organizations that we've ever had that have created significant.

01:26:27.000 Should we abolish all of it?

01:26:29.000 Well, I think it's time to start thinking about new systems of government, right?

01:26:33.000 But specifically agencies.

01:26:35.000 Like bureaucracy happens because over time, things get entrenched.

01:26:41.000 People make decisions and worse gets worse and worse.

01:26:44.000 Like, come on, look at the CIA.

01:26:46.000 When have they ever been successful, right?

01:26:47.000 Bunch of guys from Princeton never been able to do anything.

01:26:51.000 They recently rescued, I think it was at least two airmen in Iran, thanks to the surveillance of the CIA.

01:26:57.000 And probably Palantir was heavily involved.

01:26:59.000 I don't know.

01:27:00.000 Is that crazy?

01:27:00.000 But why isn't the United States military doing that, right?

01:27:03.000 Why isn't the National Guard enforcing the border?

01:27:06.000 The CIA provided the information.

01:27:08.000 We had Maduro's entire house mapped.

01:27:10.000 Yeah.

01:27:10.000 And they got him in how quickly, right?

01:27:13.000 45 minutes.

01:27:14.000 I'm saying these are good things that the CIA is doing.

01:27:16.000 I think the military should be doing this.

01:27:17.000 I don't think we should have a CIA.

01:27:19.000 But the military is going to contract with Palantir.

01:27:21.000 It's a distinction without a difference.

01:27:23.000 You just want the CIA under the Pentagon.

01:27:24.000 I agree there's problems with the three letter agencies.

01:27:26.000 I'm just contesting that the surveillance state is the reason why there's issues with.

01:27:30.000 With the CIA, with the FBI.

01:27:31.000 I mean, I think there's a more structural.

01:27:33.000 Oh, no, no, the CIA is, I believe, managerial.

01:27:35.000 And when you talk about the CIA, well, that gets directly to Virginia politics, that they're installing candidates in there.

01:27:42.000 Wasn't Spanberger a former CIA agent?

01:27:45.000 You know, so.

01:27:46.000 Mm hmm.

01:27:46.000 And you voted for her.

01:27:47.000 It's just.

01:27:47.000 She was a colleague of my father's.

01:27:50.000 But you're railing against the CIA, where.

01:27:52.000 And she used to be an agent.

01:27:53.000 Yeah, I'm a bit of a rebel.

01:27:55.000 Yeah, you're kind of all over the place.

01:27:57.000 I don't know if I'm confused.

01:28:00.000 I mean, I guess, again, you were a Democrat a month ago, so it's going through an evolution.

01:28:04.000 Abigail Spanberger was a CAA officer serving as a case officer and operations officer, as well as special agent.

01:28:09.000 She was involved in the assassination of several world leaders in various South American countries, where she personally slit the throat of Adam Allen.

01:28:17.000 I'm kidding.

01:28:18.000 I made all that up.

01:28:19.000 No, he was getting too good.

01:28:20.000 I was going to do it.

01:28:23.000 Wait a minute. 0.99

01:28:24.000 Wait a damn minute. 1.00

01:28:25.000 Yeah, I would have just worn out for her. 1.00

01:28:27.000 Could you imagine her like, Swinging into like the Generalissimo's bedroom on like a rope, like decked out in gear.

01:28:33.000 She pulls out a knife and he's like, No!

01:28:36.000 And then I would have been door knocking, pamphleting.

01:28:40.000 I guess I can't really tell what you're doing.

01:28:41.000 So she's watching right now and she goes, I did.

01:28:43.000 Well, you're trying to frame what I believe in a left versus right narrative, right?

01:28:48.000 Like, I don't ascribe to that.

01:28:49.000 I look at it as America, to me, is the most important thing that there is, right?

01:28:54.000 So that's the advancement of American interests and American people.

01:28:57.000 I believe our interests are misspent outside of this sphere.

01:29:01.000 That's why I made the comment about Mexico and Canada.

01:29:04.000 I think we should focus a little bit closer to ourselves first.

01:29:07.000 Let's solve those problems, right? 1.00

01:29:08.000 We won't need any immigrants. 1.00

01:29:10.000 We won't need a manufacturing base if we were to develop or, you know, acquire Mexico, right? 1.00

01:29:15.000 Natural resources, boom. 0.99

01:29:17.000 It's the only country I don't want to acquire. 1.00

01:29:19.000 Yeah, that'd be, that's like a demographic. 1.00

01:29:21.000 What's the point of the border if we just, we move the border down to. 0.65

01:29:24.000 I guess, I guess my question is like, it's a tough position because, like, okay, I understand what you're saying.

01:29:31.000 You know, it's not about right versus left.

01:29:33.000 You know, it's about, you know, it's like the anti elite kind of framing, but, The problem is, if you have a dispensation against immigration or illegal immigration in this instance, like you want deportation of legal immigrants, that's going to put you squarely on the right.

01:29:43.000 It's going to put a target on your back from the left.

01:29:45.000 So it's like for most people, they never assign themselves on the right or assign themselves on the left.

01:29:49.000 It's just that certain policies that you ascribe to are just going to firmly put you in that camp.

01:29:53.000 And so I just, I don't think it's, I don't know how productive it would be to try and like escape that paradigm because it's like you're already kind of penned in by default because of your policy.

01:30:03.000 I think we should make being Democrat illegal.

01:30:05.000 They did for him.

01:30:05.000 I agree.

01:30:07.000 Well, you know, like they did it before I could.

01:30:09.000 I'm kidding, but like the way you described it, it's rigged. 0.95

01:30:13.000 It's like all of these politicians are corrupt. 0.88

01:30:13.000 Yeah. 0.88

01:30:15.000 Look at Swalwell. 0.98

01:30:17.000 I mean, this guy is now accused of drugging and raping women. 0.99

01:30:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:30:21.000 Like, wow. 0.86

01:30:22.000 And the conspiracy theory is that those videos of him with these hookers were part of the recruitment process. 0.94

01:30:28.000 It is. 0.98

01:30:29.000 They say, if you like, this is a conspiracy theory, but they say, if you want to hold office, we're going to film you with hookers. 0.99

01:30:36.000 That way you won't betray us. 0.85

01:30:38.000 And then they use it against them when they want to dispose of them.

01:30:40.000 Mark, is that what they made you do?

01:30:43.000 I already did that.

01:30:43.000 Oh, no, he did that by choice.

01:30:45.000 I did that myself prior.

01:30:46.000 You were on the F Boy show.

01:30:48.000 What was the F Boy Island hosted by Nikki Glazer?

01:30:51.000 But no, the systems of control are all around us, right?

01:30:54.000 So now, if someone, an enterprising young mind, wanted to look into Mark Warner and figure out how he had such a meteor, meteoric rise in 1980 from Harvard Law to head of fundraising for the DNC and what was his used car dealership in Chesapeake, Virginia doing?

01:31:11.000 How much money did he make?

01:31:12.000 Who was he, to use the term quote unquote, laundering?

01:31:16.000 Is what I've heard.

01:31:17.000 Was he laundering money?

01:31:17.000 Who was he laundering it for?

01:31:19.000 Did that help his rise?

01:31:20.000 And then did he just continue on in a legacy of Democratic politicians who become compromised?

01:31:25.000 Even the Clintons did.

01:31:26.000 What are you saying?

01:31:27.000 He laundered money?

01:31:28.000 I'm asking the question.

01:31:29.000 That's what people tell me.

01:31:31.000 That's what people tell you.

01:31:32.000 That he had a car dealership in Chesapeake, Virginia in the early 80s where he was making 600K laundering money for the mob because the mob was the main financier of the DNC, organized labor.

01:31:43.000 Interesting.

01:31:43.000 This is the Democrat machine behind the scenes.

01:31:45.000 I guess it would make sense why they'd want to keep him around.

01:31:47.000 Correct.

01:31:48.000 And also why he wants to stay around.

01:31:50.000 Why would a 71 year old who has $250 million want to keep working?

01:31:55.000 Ego.

01:31:56.000 That's why.

01:31:56.000 Why does anybody want to be a politician?

01:31:58.000 Why do you want to be a politician?

01:31:59.000 People say they want to help the people, but in my experience covering campaigns of all these different positions, it's all self aggrandizing at the end.

01:32:08.000 I mean, I could be an investment banker right now and have a lot of money.

01:32:11.000 I would go back to it.

01:32:12.000 I mean, you're running a good speed race.

01:32:14.000 Now, because merging companies together is like an affront to liberty, it's just a natural decline of society.

01:32:20.000 Right.

01:32:20.000 Well, so my prediction, Ilad, is that in the next couple of years, he will be the Democratic Party.

01:32:27.000 The Democratic Party is going to be shattered.

01:32:30.000 Their apparatus is not going to make sense.

01:32:31.000 People are going to be craving something moderate.

01:32:33.000 It's going to be a prime opportunity for people like Joe Kent, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr. to realign the Democratic Party.

01:32:40.000 So he's getting involved now at the ground level when the Democratic Party's in disarray and infighting over Hassan Piker.

01:32:45.000 But the problem is, you're always going to be ejected every day until Sunday. 0.99

01:32:48.000 Again, if you just hold basic positions like I think illegal immigrants should be deported in mass. 0.92

01:32:51.000 And I'm not saying I don't know what your position is, but if you're pro life or if you're skeptical of trans stuff, you're out. 0.80

01:32:57.000 Yes, but the point is, he is going to start building a following among moderate Democrats who don't like those things.

01:33:03.000 And be part of a realignment that may be coming.

01:33:05.000 I don't know if it is, but may be coming in the next couple of years where more and more Democrats who are moderates and having conversations but disagree with us gain prominence.

01:33:14.000 I mean, it's a fourth turning theory, right?

01:33:16.000 Every 80 years, a realignment.

01:33:17.000 Well, that's more about people killing each other and going to war.

01:33:21.000 But also, if the concern is.

01:33:23.000 No, no, the Strassau generational theory is dictating that in two years we will be in a full scale war.

01:33:28.000 Yeah, we will.

01:33:30.000 I mean, I think you get that, right?

01:33:32.000 Here we go.

01:33:33.000 Look at this story from Reuters.

01:33:34.000 Pentagon approaches automakers and manufacturers to boost weapon production.

01:33:40.000 World War III.

01:33:41.000 Trump cut off China in the Strait of Hormuz.

01:33:44.000 And you've got Hegseth saying, or I'm sorry, it wasn't Hegseth, it was Miller saying, we can do this indefinitely.

01:33:50.000 We will choke out Iran. 0.94

01:33:51.000 But really, he's saying China. 0.98

01:33:53.000 Sooner or later, China says, we cannot wait any longer.

01:33:56.000 And moves get made.

01:33:58.000 The Pentagon going to automakers saying, can you guys make weapons?

01:34:01.000 Sounds a whole lot like more war is coming.

01:34:03.000 Trump talking about, or the Trump admin preparing for an invasion of Cuba.

01:34:07.000 If Trump moves into Cuba, do you think China moves into Taiwan?

01:34:10.000 No.

01:34:11.000 No.

01:34:12.000 I think we're defeating this access in detail by taking them on individually.

01:34:17.000 And then down the line, China just wouldn't have any allies if they did try to bog us down in war.

01:34:21.000 Russia's bogged down in Ukraine.

01:34:23.000 We took Venezuela off the map.

01:34:24.000 I think Russia's on Trump's team. 0.93

01:34:26.000 The three biggest beneficiaries of the Iran war are.

01:34:30.000 Saudi Aramco, ExxonMobil, and Gazprom.

01:34:33.000 Well, and always has been corporations.

01:34:34.000 No, no, no, no.

01:34:35.000 This is Russia, Gazprom, Saudi Arabia, Saudi Aramco, and ExxonMobil, the United States.

01:34:40.000 These three countries are the principal energy producers.

01:34:42.000 Venezuela was taken out of the picture.

01:34:44.000 Trump sees that.

01:34:45.000 Right now, this war is a detriment to every other country.

01:34:49.000 It looks like Trump went to the Saudis, he went to the Russians, and he said, We make all the energy, we should run the world.

01:34:56.000 So Europe is screwed. 0.97

01:34:58.000 They're freaking out and pissed off. 0.99

01:34:59.000 You've got China freaking out and pissed off.

01:35:02.000 Everybody outside of the major energy producers is freaking off.

01:35:05.000 Freaking out and pissed off.

01:35:06.000 Well, he's hurting China. 1.00

01:35:08.000 That's the goal, right? 1.00

01:35:09.000 Like, again, to the 5D chess point, like, I agree with him on this, right?

01:35:13.000 But doesn't this present the potential?

01:35:15.000 China then says, we're about to get crushed.

01:35:18.000 We have to go to war. 0.93

01:35:20.000 We know that's coming.

01:35:21.000 When you war game the Pacific Theater, there's a reason why they built up their Navy.

01:35:26.000 That's what I was getting to, to the point of it's peace through deterrence.

01:35:31.000 And if we have the biggest, baddest Navy, arms, all of this, right?

01:35:35.000 Like we're sending all this money to Northrop Grumman, but we're getting equity in it because we all want to benefit.

01:35:40.000 Well, let's do it, okay?

01:35:42.000 I'm on board with that tagline.

01:35:43.000 As long as you keep saying peace through strength, I guess I'll be fine.

01:35:46.000 Well, then let me hit you with one, right? 1.00

01:35:47.000 Why are we letting the Chinese invade our country, right? 1.00

01:35:50.000 Let's look at Smithfield in Virginia. 0.99

01:35:53.000 Right, that gets bought by a Chinese firm.

01:35:55.000 Okay, we have all of these Chinese who have land around military bases.

01:36:01.000 Why has no one come out and said, Come on, we're losing this domestically?

01:36:05.000 They're in all of our academic institutions.

01:36:07.000 Come on.

01:36:08.000 My dad told me, Anyone who went to Peking University is a spy.

01:36:11.000 There's a kid on my learning team in business school at UVA, Peking University.

01:36:14.000 There's 300 some odd Chinese student visas that are currently active around. 0.99

01:36:18.000 Cancel all of them and prosecute potentially, depending, but look into everyone who's been given one. 0.99

01:36:25.000 Why are we doing that?

01:36:25.000 Should it be indiscriminate or should this be evidence based?

01:36:28.000 Should we just say, hey, this.

01:36:29.000 Indiscriminate.

01:36:30.000 We are going to go to war with China. 0.89

01:36:33.000 So it should be indiscriminate that we have to treat things seriously rather than this kind of half poo poo way that we have done things. 0.89

01:36:40.000 Like, I don't want to offend anyone, but it's like, hey, if that's our enemy, if we're in this AI war with them, right?

01:36:45.000 We need to take all precautions necessary. 1.00

01:36:47.000 We should not have any Chinese nationals studying in our academic institutions, working in our government. 1.00

01:36:52.000 Come on. 1.00

01:36:53.000 This is America. 0.89

01:36:54.000 I agree actually completely that, like, Okay, I think our domestic policy does need to be mobilized against like CCP elements inside the country.

01:37:01.000 There's no question about that. 0.99

01:37:01.000 I mean, the farmland thing, everything is just ridiculous, the student visas. 0.99

01:37:05.000 But I guess I contend that like it's an inevitable war against China because I'm like, if anything, I think that's actually more and more unlikely as we continue to rack up sort of geopolitical wins because I think the effect this is having on the Chinese is actually more of a demoralization. 0.93

01:37:19.000 You can make the argument, okay, when they're back into a corner, then they strike.

01:37:22.000 But actually, I think they're just increasingly skeptical that an operation on Taiwan would even work.

01:37:26.000 And I think China would rather just sort of Play ball in this instance because look, they just watched their entire Belt and Road Initiative.

01:37:31.000 I mean, I'm still the war, you know, hasn't concluded.

01:37:34.000 It's still, you know, unclear how this is going to resolve, but you know, it's fair to say that their Belt and Road Initiative has been hampered by the Iran operation.

01:37:40.000 So they're just continuing to see geopolitical loss, geopolitical loss, geopolitical loss.

01:37:44.000 That to me is a reason why they would be kind of hesitant to actually make any moves right now.

01:37:49.000 Like Russia made their move on Ukraine after the Afghanistan withdrawal.

01:37:51.000 They said, Oh, there's blood in the water.

01:37:53.000 This is not the time.

01:37:53.000 Sure.

01:37:53.000 Let's mobilize.

01:37:54.000 If you're China, this is not the time to strike.

01:37:56.000 They have some domestic strife.

01:37:57.000 They have a lot of domestic issues.

01:37:58.000 They're kind of.

01:37:59.000 Worried internally right now.

01:38:00.000 They're going to have more and more domestic issues, right? 0.99

01:38:02.000 Like, look at the real estate bubble that they have.

01:38:04.000 So, they're not thinking of it the same way that you're describing that we think about them, right?

01:38:10.000 If you're the ruling class in China, you may be thinking, okay, this is all going to get out of hand pretty soon.

01:38:14.000 Once this real estate bubble bursts, we got to make some moves now, right?

01:38:18.000 And they may say, hey, the U.S., they're at a point, there's going to be a new president soon.

01:38:23.000 We can cause chaos.

01:38:24.000 We'll be able to appease Trump however we want, but let's go cause chaos because that's what a war is.

01:38:30.000 What's your position on the Russia Ukraine war?

01:38:33.000 I think the Russia Ukraine war is the biggest money laundering scheme that has ever been put into existence.

01:38:39.000 When I drive around McLean or Great Falls, Virginia, where I grew up, why do I see more Ukraine flags than American flags in front of mansions?

01:38:49.000 Why do so many Virginians, you tell me you were born and raised in Virginia, why do so many Virginians support Ukraine? 0.84

01:38:54.000 Because they're part of the complex, the military industrial complex. 0.94

01:38:57.000 It's an asset pillaging of our country, of our money that we pay taxes for, right?

01:39:02.000 This is why I keep going back to the equity point.

01:39:04.000 Because if we're going to give a company money, Northrop Grumman, 97%, okay, we need something.

01:39:10.000 But otherwise, what's going to happen is then that money, the government contracts revenue, right? 0.95

01:39:15.000 Yeah, I know I've been shitting on this model. 0.84

01:39:17.000 However, the president did take a similar position. 0.94

01:39:19.000 When he came to Intel, he took a, I forget what the percent stake was.

01:39:23.000 Yeah, because we did bail them out or something, but that's because this was, they saw it as a form of national security issue.

01:39:29.000 Sure.

01:39:30.000 Which was to domesticate the chip industry.

01:39:34.000 Well, isn't having Northrop Grumman beefed up?

01:39:36.000 It could make sense with the military industrialization.

01:39:37.000 Northrop Grumman?

01:39:38.000 I mean, that's national.

01:39:39.000 If you beef them up more, I mean, I guess why not?

01:39:41.000 Bigger, badder, bolder.

01:39:42.000 That's the American way.

01:39:44.000 So that's obviously to say that you don't support sending additional weapons or money to Ukraine in their fight against Russia.

01:39:50.000 No, and I want a full audit.

01:39:52.000 Okay.

01:39:52.000 Well, what do you think, I guess, of the Russian invasion, despite not believing that we should support the Ukrainians?

01:39:57.000 Well, Russia is a fascinating topic because it's one that I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 34.

01:40:03.000 Okay.

01:40:03.000 So I'm 32.

01:40:04.000 So we grew up with Russia as this big, vast enemy all the time. 1.00

01:40:08.000 Like, boomers are like, we cannot let them. 1.00

01:40:11.000 Have we had an open dialogue with them? 1.00

01:40:13.000 Why can't we just see what they got going on?

01:40:16.000 Because Putin's a conniving dictator who's a part of the KGB and his response to the deaths of multiple father was head of the CIA.

01:40:24.000 And that's based, though, that's advancing American values. 0.52

01:40:28.000 Working in the KGB.

01:40:30.000 Is not advancing American values, right?

01:40:32.000 We support American history.

01:40:33.000 Well, obviously, not a different country.

01:40:34.000 That's why Bush senior working in the CIA is a good thing.

01:40:36.000 But dialogue.

01:40:38.000 And seeing where we move forward, right?

01:40:40.000 Because the North Pole.

01:40:41.000 You think Putin's an honest actor here?

01:40:42.000 What?

01:40:43.000 You think Putin's an honest actor?

01:40:45.000 No, no, no, I didn't say that.

01:40:45.000 No.

01:40:45.000 Okay.

01:40:47.000 But his daughter's doing an interesting DJ thing in Paris.

01:40:50.000 This guy knows everything.

01:40:50.000 So that was kind of.

01:40:52.000 Yeah.

01:40:53.000 Did you go?

01:40:53.000 I don't know.

01:40:54.000 You look like you could pick her up.

01:40:55.000 Anyways, so the North Pole melts, right?

01:40:59.000 All of these shipping lanes open up, right?

01:41:02.000 It makes sense for us to at least have a dialogue with Russia.

01:41:05.000 I mean, we got to get Greenland, and I'm all for that. 0.87

01:41:07.000 I'm manifest destiny till kingdom come.

01:41:10.000 So, and we need what are we doing here negotiating with Denmark, huh?

01:41:14.000 Yeah, like too small.

01:41:15.000 Who's too small?

01:41:16.000 What are you gonna do about it, guys?

01:41:18.000 After Cuba, you take it after Cuba. 1.00

01:41:20.000 Yeah, like forget Iran. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Come on, we're going, we're taking it by force. 0.94

01:41:23.000 Like, there was some clip of like the their prime minister, Greenland.

01:41:26.000 He's like, We're scared.

01:41:27.000 Like, I don't care if you're scared.

01:41:28.000 We need it.

01:41:30.000 Yeah, I should be scared, actually.

01:41:31.000 I think we could make a deal in supporting Ukraine for more sovereignty.

01:41:36.000 Over Greenland.

01:41:37.000 I think that would really get the Europeans excited. 0.95

01:41:40.000 Yeah, quid pro quo. 0.92

01:41:41.000 Or, how about this?

01:41:43.000 We don't cut a deal, we take Denmark too.

01:41:46.000 You know, I don't want to ruffle too many feathers.

01:41:50.000 Seize the Lego production, Ozempic.

01:41:52.000 We need Ozempic for national security.

01:41:54.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:41:55.000 Norvo Nota.

01:41:55.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:41:56.000 Take equity in Norvo Nota.

01:41:58.000 Yeah, maybe I'm sure. 0.92

01:41:59.000 And we would force the free town of Christiania back into the governmental fold. 0.95

01:42:04.000 I think it's ridiculous. 0.99

01:42:04.000 I agree. 0.99

01:42:06.000 And also, the renaming of Nook is gotthab. 0.97

01:42:09.000 So when we take restoring the Danish name, this ridiculous anti colonial third worldist crap's got to end. 0.99

01:42:15.000 It's the most niche shit I've ever heard. 1.00

01:42:17.000 Amazing. 1.00

01:42:17.000 Oh, we're into it. 1.00

01:42:18.000 We're into it.

01:42:18.000 You're asking those.

01:42:19.000 Put a club or not.

01:42:21.000 In all seriousness, Denmark is one of my favorite places.

01:42:23.000 Yeah.

01:42:23.000 I've been there.

01:42:25.000 Well, we can take ice.

01:42:26.000 I've been there for some reason.

01:42:26.000 Awesome.

01:42:28.000 I've been to Denmark more than many other countries.

01:42:30.000 Just somehow I just ended up there.

01:42:31.000 Like, favorite place more than America?

01:42:34.000 Whoa.

01:42:35.000 This dude, this guy, barely a patron.

01:42:37.000 One of my favorite Danish double agents.

01:42:39.000 I also love him. 1.00

01:42:40.000 He looks like a Nussbaumid dude. 1.00

01:42:42.000 I've been to Jimmy's, bro. 1.00

01:42:44.000 Are you an Inuit?

01:42:46.000 Korean. 1.00

01:42:47.000 You all look the same? 1.00

01:42:47.000 Okay. 1.00

01:42:49.000 Oh.

01:42:49.000 Madrid.

01:42:51.000 It's true.

01:42:52.000 I agree.

01:42:52.000 Madrid's great.

01:42:53.000 Madrid's great.

01:42:55.000 Dude, I went to Madrid.

01:42:57.000 I had the time of my life.

01:42:58.000 You go to one of the topest bars.

01:42:59.000 I don't need to leave.

01:43:00.000 I walked up and I was like, Una cerveza, por favor.

01:43:03.000 He gives me his little tiny beer for one euro.

01:43:05.000 And I'm like, What is this?

01:43:06.000 And then he shoves two gigantic plates of calamari just to the top.

01:43:10.000 And I was like, Whose is this?

01:43:10.000 Yeah.

01:43:12.000 And I was like, I look at my friends and they were like, That comes with the beer.

01:43:12.000 It's you.

01:43:15.000 And I was like, What?

01:43:17.000 Also, the interesting thing is amazing.

01:43:19.000 And Spain is an outlier in the West because it's actually the rural areas that are heavily liberal.

01:43:24.000 And then Madrid is like a very ripe place.

01:43:25.000 It's weird.

01:43:25.000 Yeah, it's an inverse.

01:43:27.000 Is Malaga?

01:43:28.000 I went there too.

01:43:28.000 That was awesome.

01:43:29.000 I had a bunch of pork. 0.99

01:43:30.000 They got pigs down there.

01:43:32.000 Yeah.

01:43:33.000 But in Denmark, there's like one of the best burger joints I ever went to.

01:43:37.000 And I got to figure out what that name is because it's just awesome.

01:43:40.000 Denmark also has like a really pragmatic immigration policy that liberals seem to be okay with, where they're basically just like, if you don't assimilate, you're gone.

01:43:45.000 And they actually have, which is what ours should be.

01:43:48.000 They scrape a lot of data to get it done.

01:43:48.000 You won't like this.

01:43:50.000 Oh, oh, oh.

01:43:52.000 Let's profile all my views.

01:43:52.000 Okay.

01:43:54.000 Look, you've never met someone more racist than a Mexican who came here legally. 1.00

01:43:59.000 I thought you were about to say the name. 1.00

01:44:00.000 Tell me.

01:44:01.000 I thought you were going to lean back and go, yeah, nobody's more.

01:44:03.000 But okay, see.

01:44:04.000 Look, no one.

01:44:04.000 I'm an honorary Hispanic.

01:44:07.000 I hate data Latinos, so. 1.00

01:44:08.000 Fair enough. 1.00

01:44:09.000 We're working on the Spanish. 0.68

01:44:10.000 Who's assimilating who? 1.00

01:44:13.000 Now, that's a good question. 1.00

01:44:14.000 That's a fair question. 0.94

01:44:14.000 And Shapiro did talk about the browning of Americans. 0.94

01:44:16.000 It was not a problem. 0.65

01:44:17.000 But it sounds like they're browning our white people. 0.98

01:44:17.000 Exactly. 0.98

01:44:19.000 They're trying to recolonize, which I try to stand up to in my day to day life. 0.96

01:44:22.000 You want to annex Mexico? 1.00

01:44:24.000 I do. 1.00

01:44:25.000 I mean, manifest it.

01:44:26.000 We need something to be excited about.

01:44:27.000 Do we not?

01:44:27.000 Come on.

01:44:28.000 I'm saying this with total love in my heart for Mexicans. 1.00

01:44:30.000 Do we really need more Mexicans in this country? 1.00

01:44:32.000 I mean, like, it's getting a little crazy. 1.00

01:44:33.000 It's getting a little.

01:44:34.000 I mean, come on.

01:44:35.000 I mean, I'm here.

01:44:35.000 Don't care if you're from Texas.

01:44:38.000 Take your pick Mexicans or Somalis. 1.00

01:44:41.000 Whoa. 1.00

01:44:41.000 Why? 1.00

01:44:42.000 Can I kill myself? 1.00

01:44:44.000 Is that an option? 1.00

01:44:47.000 You can disavow.

01:44:48.000 It's fine.

01:44:48.000 You're running for Congress.

01:44:49.000 You can disavow.

01:44:50.000 But no, but to your point, assimilation is key, right?

01:44:54.000 Like that, I have different views than you guys on immigration.

01:44:58.000 Sure.

01:44:59.000 But it's the assimilation that is key. 0.66

01:45:01.000 I'm Irish.

01:45:02.000 You look at Irish, like most successful group because they came, they did the jobs they had to do, then they got political power.

01:45:09.000 That should be the process. 1.00

01:45:10.000 Yeah, there's a conversation about, though, the pernicious influence of these Irish Catholics on our media. 1.00

01:45:16.000 There always has been Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon. 1.00

01:45:19.000 I mean, I think Tucker Carlson, Rachel Maddow, Rachel Maddow, Donald.

01:45:23.000 I mean, it goes on and on and on.

01:45:24.000 Yeah, and then obviously, Joe, was Joe Biden Irish?

01:45:27.000 I think he was at least Irish. 1.00

01:45:28.000 Obnoxiously Catholic. 0.85

01:45:29.000 Catholic with Nancy Pelosi. 1.00

01:45:31.000 That's Italian. 0.99

01:45:32.000 Oh, might be half. 0.99

01:45:33.000 At least Catholic. 0.80

01:45:34.000 Okay, I think I found it.

01:45:35.000 It's called It's Burger.

01:45:37.000 I love it.

01:45:38.000 Like three more times.

01:45:40.000 I've been there like a dozen times, and somehow it's like.

01:45:44.000 We always go, like, oh, let's get a burger.

01:45:45.000 And it's like, it's the same place we go to, and it's just so good.

01:45:48.000 I got to tell you, you know, we rag on Denmark and we joke about conquering them, but I'm actually, I do, I would like to conquer them because I love that place.

01:45:55.000 I respect that.

01:45:56.000 I'm down for that.

01:45:56.000 Yeah.

01:45:57.000 I want to take what I enjoy.

01:45:58.000 Like, I like it, so I should own it.

01:46:00.000 You know, that's the American way.

01:46:02.000 So Denmark.

01:46:03.000 Manifest destiny.

01:46:04.000 That's right.

01:46:05.000 If you like vacationing somewhere, just seize it as a treat.

01:46:07.000 Didn't we occupy Denmark in World War II?

01:46:10.000 No.

01:46:10.000 Talk about Greenland.

01:46:11.000 Greenland, that's what it was.

01:46:12.000 Do you guys ever have, have you guys ever heard of ketchup fried rice, I think it's called?

01:46:17.000 No. 0.98

01:46:17.000 Korean? 0.98

01:46:18.000 Disgusting. 1.00

01:46:18.000 Is it hot dog fried rice? 1.00

01:46:20.000 So, when U.S. troops were stationed in Thailand, they want to eat hot dogs, but they don't have bread.

01:46:25.000 They only had rice.

01:46:26.000 So, they would make a bed of rice, push a hot dog into it, and put ketchup on it. 0.73

01:46:30.000 That's what the Americans would do because they were like, we don't got bread. 0.89

01:46:33.000 We'll just make a bed of rice to eat our hot dog with. 0.75

01:46:35.000 And so, what they do is they take raisins, ketchup, and hot dogs.

01:46:39.000 They mix it with the rice and fry it.

01:46:40.000 And it's like a normal thing in Thailand, like everybody eats.

01:46:43.000 That's interesting.

01:46:44.000 I mean, you fry anything, it's good.

01:46:45.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:46:46.000 That's true.

01:46:46.000 That's patriotic.

01:46:47.000 That's why I know you're America only.

01:46:49.000 All right, everybody.

01:46:49.000 That's right.

01:46:50.000 That's all I need to say.

01:46:51.000 We got to go to the uncensored.

01:46:52.000 I'm sorry, no, we're going to go to the Rumble Rants and Super Chats.

01:46:55.000 The uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10 at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.

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01:48:43.000 Let's get what you guys got to say from those chats.

01:48:47.000 We got Consumer.

01:48:48.000 He says, Be sure to welcome the regular bots and trolls.

01:48:51.000 They're constantly asking me to ban a bunch of people.

01:48:53.000 Well, we'll need to get a moderator on the Rumble side.

01:48:56.000 Swanson says, What do y'all think of Americans praising China and saying Chinese people are off better than us?

01:49:02.000 Even when data shows 600 million Chinese make 162 bucks a month, why are we seeing this praise?

01:49:07.000 Propaganda. 0.96

01:49:08.000 There's a viral post from Jackson Hinkle where he's like, Communism is better.

01:49:12.000 And it's like an image of the Chinese cityscape with LED light buildings everywhere. 0.93

01:49:12.000 This is proof. 0.93

01:49:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:49:19.000 Like, bro, I've seen Vegas.

01:49:21.000 You will not impress me.

01:49:23.000 Have you not just looked at.

01:49:24.000 At the sphere and the gigantic eyeball and all the weird stuff Vegas does?

01:49:27.000 Come on.

01:49:28.000 The skyline of New York City in Vegas.

01:49:28.000 Yeah, ours is.

01:49:30.000 If anyone's going to appropriate our culture, it's us, okay?

01:49:33.000 The RGB nationalism is not going to fake me out.

01:49:33.000 That's right.

01:49:36.000 It's almost.

01:49:38.000 This is the thing about.

01:49:39.000 We've got something else for the uncensored portion with Hassan.

01:49:41.000 He said the collapse of the Soviet Union was a great catastrophe, the greatest catastrophe.

01:49:45.000 These people just lie. 0.99

01:49:46.000 They are evil. 1.00

01:49:47.000 This is what communists do. 1.00

01:49:48.000 They lie.

01:49:48.000 What they don't tell you about China is that you can't own land, you can only lease it from the government.

01:49:53.000 What they don't tell you is that. 0.68

01:49:54.000 When the Olympics came to China, they stole the water from poor people to bring to the cities and let people die. 0.79

01:50:00.000 That's the system you live under. 0.51

01:50:02.000 Eminent domain, you think that's bad? 1.00

01:50:04.000 When you live in China, they'll just kill you. 1.00

01:50:07.000 They'll just take from you. 1.00

01:50:08.000 You just duck and cover and hope you get to live peacefully.

01:50:11.000 I'm not a big fan.

01:50:12.000 I appreciate the United States.

01:50:13.000 We at least have some regions of grievances. 0.80

01:50:16.000 You don't own land in China, right?

01:50:17.000 You just have a 99 year lease.

01:50:19.000 Exactly. 0.72

01:50:21.000 Same old man says we conquer both Americas and make all them territories. 0.75

01:50:25.000 Give them no voting power nor make them citizens of the USA, then use them for the US empire. 0.68

01:50:30.000 What would we do? 0.71

01:50:30.000 Ha ha ha. 0.71

01:50:31.000 I will add to that, to be fair, in the United States, you don't own land either.

01:50:35.000 You pay property tax on it.

01:50:36.000 And then when you die, the government takes it from you.

01:50:38.000 Correct.

01:50:38.000 And in the long run, someone who owns land, let's say your great great grandpappy staked a plot of land back when nobody lived there, and he's got 10 acres.

01:50:51.000 Eventually, the government came in and said, You got to pay a tax on that land now.

01:50:54.000 And he goes, What do you mean?

01:50:55.000 I don't do anything for money.

01:50:56.000 I just farm here and feed my family and say, too bad.

01:50:59.000 Well, then he says, What do I do?

01:51:00.000 They say, If you don't, we're going to take it from you.

01:51:02.000 So he parcels off a small piece of his land and sells it to somebody to pay his taxes.

01:51:06.000 And every year the land gets smaller and smaller and smaller until you don't own it anymore.

01:51:10.000 That's the American way. 0.68

01:51:11.000 I'd prefer that over the 99 year old way. 0.92

01:51:14.000 That's fair too, but still not good.

01:51:16.000 And that has been the way, right?

01:51:18.000 Because we're managing into decline.

01:51:19.000 If we look at this as a publicly traded corporation, we're going into bankruptcy.

01:51:24.000 That's a matter of fact.

01:51:25.000 $39 trillion in debt, $30 trillion GDP, $1 trillion in interest rates, right?

01:51:30.000 The interest on the debt is about to become the principal line item, and it's going to, unless Trump does something to debt holders, like cut off their access to energy, so they become desperate.

01:51:40.000 I got an idea for you.

01:51:42.000 Conquer them.

01:51:43.000 Well, if we were a publicly traded corporation, we could put ourselves into bankruptcy, a structural reorganization, right?

01:51:50.000 United States.

01:51:51.000 United States.

01:51:51.000 Yeah, but that's meaningless.

01:51:52.000 Kill the people. 1.00

01:51:53.000 Well, but hold on. 1.00

01:51:54.000 But just real quick on this.

01:51:56.000 72% of debt is held domestically, right?

01:51:59.000 If people were to take a haircut, we cut 10 trillion, 15 whatever off.

01:52:03.000 What it would do is create an artificial tariff. 0.99

01:52:05.000 It would make it so we'd have to make things here.

01:52:08.000 I believe that we should not import anything.

01:52:10.000 If we make things here, the debt held by the U.S. domestically in the national debt is like invoices wouldn't be paid from the government, meaning these companies need that money to survive.

01:52:19.000 It would be a tough time.

01:52:20.000 Our credit rating would go down.

01:52:22.000 Yeah, but the economy would implode.

01:52:23.000 And then the interest rates, which general contractors would go to business overnight.

01:52:27.000 You, you, 100, 100 million jobs evaporate, not just because they're held by the government, but because there's many private sector jobs relying on invoices from the government, sure.

01:52:35.000 That in turn will be used to pay for food at a restaurant where the workers would go to.

01:52:40.000 You would just see this massive tsunami of jobs collapsing, yeah.

01:52:43.000 But we don't recover from government, guys, right?

01:52:46.000 Like, if the government has its hand in everything, isn't it time to then restructure how it works?

01:52:49.000 Because what it would do, it would create chaos immediately, right?

01:52:52.000 And then our adversaries would invade, take us all.

01:52:54.000 Well, well, if we had a strong enough military, no, because that's one thing that would be how you're going to feed them.

01:52:59.000 But are you going to pay them?

01:53:00.000 You're not going to be able to do it.

01:53:01.000 Industry is what we have to build.

01:53:03.000 All of this re industrialization stuff.

01:53:05.000 No, we need to make t shirts here, hats, all of this.

01:53:08.000 But the point is the domestically held debt is granular.

01:53:08.000 That's true.

01:53:12.000 It's not one big company.

01:53:14.000 Yeah, of course.

01:53:15.000 Tens of thousands of companies all waiting on tens of thousands of dollars.

01:53:18.000 Yes.

01:53:18.000 And their employees need that money.

01:53:20.000 The employees then go grocery shopping, and the grocery stores need the money that comes from it.

01:53:24.000 Yes.

01:53:24.000 This is how the government's been artificially propping up economic expansion.

01:53:28.000 Because they just keep promising the debt.

01:53:28.000 Correct.

01:53:30.000 So here's the thing we don't understand about the debt.

01:53:33.000 Basically, the way it works is I'm broke and I say to Tate, Hey, work this month and I promise I will pay you.

01:53:42.000 I don't have any of the money.

01:53:43.000 I then need to figure out how to get the money.

01:53:46.000 So I go to the people who are living nearby and I force them to pay me so I can pay Tate.

01:53:51.000 Yeah, come on, I'm good for it.

01:53:52.000 Yeah.

01:53:53.000 I say, Tate, I need you to work here for this month. 0.98

01:53:56.000 Damn, I need a lot too. 0.96

01:53:57.000 But my wife only told me that we're allowed to contract up to 10K. 0.98

01:54:03.000 I'm going to do it anyway.

01:54:04.000 I go to my wife and she goes, Okay, let's increase the debt limit.

01:54:08.000 There is no money the US has.

01:54:10.000 They are taking on contracts, saying, Don't worry, we will pay you.

01:54:15.000 And then either they are, you know, Obama did the quantitative easing.

01:54:19.000 I'm sorry, he did the stimulus.

01:54:21.000 But we do quantitative easing, just produce the money to try and deal with some of the debt.

01:54:26.000 Or we then say, We need to figure out where this money is coming from after the fact and keep putting people off paying interest.

01:54:33.000 It's going to implode.

01:54:34.000 It's going to implode.

01:54:35.000 And that's why Jefferson warned that banking institutions were more dangerous than standing armies.

01:54:40.000 And the thing is well, if it's going to implode, if we're being managed into bankruptcy, well, how do we manage it into bankruptcy?

01:54:45.000 That's a conversation we should have that no one's willing to have.

01:54:49.000 El Jefe Lopez says So Tim is just going to do the plot from the movie The Village by M. Night Shyamalan.

01:54:55.000 Yeah, kind of.

01:54:56.000 My idea was that we would do the Blast from the Past with Renan Frazier.

01:55:02.000 Yeah, we go into an underground bunker where she will just tell her it's the year is 1990. 0.94

01:55:08.000 You know, and then she'll emerge in the future.

01:55:10.000 Oh, you know, oh wow, look, everything's changed.

01:55:14.000 You know, not to uh dig up the last conversation, can I take the most unpopular position in conservative media and defend property taxes?

01:55:22.000 No, dude, I think that's your why.

01:55:23.000 There's a pragmatic explanation.

01:55:25.000 There's a small government, this actually property taxes.

01:55:28.000 Thomas Jefferson called it the most righteous tax in America.

01:55:30.000 It's a very like it's like one of our oldest taxes.

01:55:32.000 He never envisioned the Fairfax County government.

01:55:35.000 So Sagar and Jetty actually laid this out quite well.

01:55:38.000 He basically rebutted because right now, obviously, the atmosphere is like property tax, stuff, etc.

01:55:41.000 And I agree, there's some like.

01:55:42.000 Philosophical conundrums there.

01:55:44.000 But when it comes to schools, police, local services, if you abolish property taxes, now the state or the federal government is now in control of those services, the administration of the services, the state tax now is being levied on you to pay for those services.

01:55:58.000 So when you take away property taxes, you actually lose a lot of local autonomy.

01:56:02.000 Now we should go back to the fire emblem standard where you go to the fire department, you pay your monthly fee, and they give you an emblem to put on your house.

01:56:09.000 And then if you have a fire, when they pull up, if they don't see the emblem, they leave.

01:56:14.000 The problem is, like, I agree, like, if we could actually make that happen.

01:56:17.000 The problem is, if we abolish property taxes, there's not going to be any.

01:56:21.000 To your point, though, that's assuming almost positive behavior, right?

01:56:25.000 Where let's look at Fairfax County or Loudoun County, where they know they have a wealthy home ownership population, right?

01:56:32.000 They're going to keep jacking that up.

01:56:33.000 But meanwhile, the public school system is going to keep spending money.

01:56:36.000 They're going to overspend to the point they go into a deficit.

01:56:38.000 So then they're going to say, oh, we need a casino.

01:56:41.000 Who's going to propose that?

01:56:42.000 The politicians who their campaigns are paid for by the casinos.

01:56:45.000 All of it is designed into that because without personal responsibility, if the local government can't have it, no one can have it.

01:56:52.000 It's designed, like, look at Fairfax County again. 0.72

01:56:55.000 Steve Descano, 75%, you'll like this, of the murders, illegal immigrants, Fairfax County. 1.00

01:57:01.000 They get let off. 0.99

01:57:02.000 No, but just the point you're saying, not the murders, obviously, but the point, like, oh, they're doing this.

01:57:07.000 They're doing this.

01:57:08.000 No, to deport them.

01:57:08.000 They're doing this.

01:57:10.000 We don't even need it because the Fairfax County police will say, hey, Steve, this guy who's been arrested 30 times, if you let him out, drop these charges.

01:57:17.000 He's going to kill someone.

01:57:18.000 And he does. 0.99

01:57:19.000 The problem, though, is that Fairfax.

01:57:20.000 The Democrats permit that.

01:57:21.000 But also.

01:57:22.000 Because it's designed to make national government spread more.

01:57:24.000 Well, but that's the problem.

01:57:25.000 So, again, if you abolish property taxes, no one can fund county level police departments.

01:57:29.000 So, that's going to be Loudoun County, Fairfax County are now in the driver's seat for dictating.

01:57:33.000 Like, they're going to have a state.

01:57:34.000 We're going to have state police.

01:57:36.000 That's going to be the results of that.

01:57:37.000 Schooling, now it's completely determined by, again, by the Virginia state government.

01:57:41.000 Like, it actually removes a lot of local autonomy.

01:57:44.000 It gives a lot of red counties, it eliminates their recourse to at least combat, you know, a state government they disagree with.

01:57:48.000 So it would work in red states, but the problem in blue states, as you made this point, Virginia is flooded with red counties.

01:57:54.000 They lose all their autonomy if you abolish property taxes.

01:57:57.000 Again, it's an unpopular take, but it's like true, objectively.

01:57:59.000 Sagar and Jetty laid it out really well.

01:58:01.000 Let's grab some of these chats here. 0.94

01:58:02.000 We got Rusty Shackleford says Anyone who's served knows military health care is trash. 0.97

01:58:07.000 Military doctors suck and are immune from medical malpractice suits. 0.99

01:58:10.000 And Tricare is an evil, soulless bureaucracy that does everything possible not to help you. 0.97

01:58:14.000 You don't want government health care.

01:58:18.000 Agreed.

01:58:19.000 I had Tricare growing up.

01:58:21.000 I was born in the Naval Academy.

01:58:23.000 My father was in the military.

01:58:24.000 It wasn't good, but it was way better than having to pay money for healthcare.

01:58:27.000 I'll say that.

01:58:30.000 Chad Hoffman says Tim is right.

01:58:32.000 There are no jobs Americans won't do.

01:58:35.000 Also, most farm work pickers and the like make 20 bucks an hour plus here in California.

01:58:40.000 I know a lot of second and third generations who do go picking seasonally.

01:58:45.000 Yeah, I had a friend who did grape harvesting or something for like 20 something bucks an hour 20 years ago.

01:58:51.000 And I was like, I was making 12 bucks an hour working some crappy job, and I was like, You're getting 20 bucks for picking fruit?

01:58:57.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:58:57.000 It's like, damn. 1.00

01:58:58.000 Dude, I'm old enough to remember when delivery drivers were like teenage men. 0.99

01:59:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like dominoes.

01:59:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:59:05.000 Just hustling, chill dudes.

01:59:07.000 Now it's, you know what it is.

01:59:09.000 It's like an ice mug shot.

01:59:10.000 You're like, What's going on?

01:59:10.000 Shut the pizza.

01:59:11.000 No, no, no, no.

01:59:12.000 I got to tell you about this because we complained about it a while.

01:59:12.000 Hold on.

01:59:14.000 You know what pisses me off about this? Is when I order food on one of these apps, and it'll say Sasha is coming, and then it's like Pedro.

01:59:21.000 It's Pedro.

01:59:23.000 And so we started blocking them.

01:59:24.000 We started telling them to turn around and they get pissed off.

01:59:26.000 We had one guy get really mad.

01:59:27.000 We were like, We can't accept the food from you.

01:59:29.000 And he's like, I'm Sarah's husband.

01:59:31.000 And we were like, Have a nice day.

01:59:33.000 Yeah.

01:59:33.000 Goodbye.

01:59:34.000 Did you see where one account, I don't remember which app it was, named Emmanuel in Manhattan made 11,000 deliveries in one year?

01:59:41.000 It's like insane.

01:59:42.000 But isn't that a larger byproduct?

01:59:44.000 You're saying 30 plus a day?

01:59:44.000 Wow.

01:59:44.000 So what is it?

01:59:46.000 It's corruption.

01:59:47.000 No, more than fraud.

01:59:47.000 What do you mean?

01:59:48.000 But transitioning into a.

01:59:50.000 Well, I know, but I'm like, I'm wondering if that's possible. 0.84

01:59:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:59:54.000 Sorry.

01:59:54.000 Go on.

01:59:55.000 Oh.

01:59:55.000 Well, transitioning into essentially a 1099 workforce.

01:59:59.000 Right? 0.64

02:00:01.000 I think illegal immigration is undercutting our labor force.

02:00:04.000 That's what I was kind of implying. 1.00

02:00:05.000 I agree with you on that. 1.00

02:00:06.000 Illegal immigrants are doing a lot of jobs that used to be taken by people who were special, entry level workforce type people. 0.98

02:00:12.000 If he worked every single day doing 30 deliveries per day, he'd make that amount, which I don't think makes no days off ever and doing 30 deliveries a day. 1.00

02:00:23.000 I don't believe it.

02:00:24.000 Yeah.

02:00:25.000 And they're pointing out that women were showing up when his name was Emmanuel.

02:00:28.000 So it was like a meme.

02:00:29.000 I was living in Manhattan.

02:00:30.000 He averages two to three deliveries per hour.

02:00:34.000 So, most people will do about 10 to 15 deliveries per shift.

02:00:40.000 So, I did it for a few months.

02:00:42.000 It was pretty horrible.

02:00:44.000 And here's the secret here's the secret.

02:00:46.000 What these people don't realize is that they're losing money doing it.

02:00:49.000 Yep.

02:00:50.000 Uber, for instance, I'll call it ride shares.

02:00:53.000 The cost on the vehicle is greater than what they actually end up making.

02:00:56.000 Yeah.

02:00:57.000 And people don't realize it.

02:00:58.000 I hit a pothole and it wiped out a week's of my earnings.

02:01:00.000 It's like there's just, yeah, there's no winning.

02:01:03.000 I mean, there are guys in New York City who they rent a Honda.

02:01:03.000 Yeah.

02:01:07.000 Accord to do Uber $400 a week.

02:01:09.000 You could purchase that for way cheaper than $1,600 a month.

02:01:12.000 You see a lot of bicyclists in New York too, like riding the bicycle.

02:01:15.000 They have like a game they play with each other.

02:01:17.000 There's like a Facebook board or something and they like post their best delivery time.

02:01:17.000 Like they compete.

02:01:20.000 Really?

02:01:20.000 Yeah, it's hilarious.

02:01:21.000 I think a big part of the problem is that it's a race to the bottom.

02:01:24.000 These guys will live a ton of them, a dozen of them in a house.

02:01:26.000 They will inflate real estate costs and then undercut the market because they're not trying to, they're just trying to send remittances back home. 0.94

02:01:32.000 And for them, it's better than Guatemala City. 0.92

02:01:34.000 The $100 a month or a week that they're able to conjure up and send back home is actually worth more than they can make over there. 0.99

02:01:40.000 They're undercutting labor here and then shooting up costs because there'll be a dozen of them in one apartment.

02:01:44.000 I got to grab one more super chat before we go.

02:01:46.000 We got a minute left, so I want to grab this one.

02:01:48.000 Awesome.

02:01:48.000 Lee says, Tim, there's a big problem with Game Theory 18.

02:01:51.000 It's not just oil that is exported through Hormuz, urea, which is used for fertilizer, and helium, which is used for computer chips.

02:01:58.000 Sure, we can provide oil, but can we provide the other stuff?

02:02:01.000 That's their problem, though. 0.98

02:02:03.000 The U.S. does produce fertilizer.

02:02:05.000 We do get some from the Strait, but this is a problem for the East, not the West.

02:02:10.000 Trump, May not be doing it intentionally, but what is happening is the U.S. is taking damage, China's taking substantially more.

02:02:16.000 We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show, and we're going to make some jokes.

02:02:20.000 Not so family friendly, but always funny.

02:02:22.000 So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.

02:02:24.000 It's going to be at rumble.com slash Tim Guest IRL.

02:02:27.000 Mark, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:29.000 Follow me at it's Mark Moran on Twitter, Instagram.

02:02:33.000 My website is runwithmoran.com.

02:02:36.000 And I have a lot of ideas that break the traditional uniparty mold.

02:02:41.000 And anyone who is interested in helping out, reach out.

02:02:44.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:02:45.000 Mark, I thank you so much for coming on.

02:02:46.000 And I think it was nice to have an insightful conversation to see where a lot of your ideas are at.

02:02:50.000 And I think you kind of represent a growing constituency in our country.

02:02:56.000 I don't know if it'll be an electorally significant one, nonetheless.

02:02:59.000 Thanks for tuning in, everybody.

02:03:00.000 I am Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.

02:03:03.000 You can find me at Alad Eliyahu on all platforms.

02:03:06.000 There's a Pentagon press briefing tomorrow that I'll be covering as well, that I'm really excited for.

02:03:10.000 So be sure to check that out.

02:03:12.000 Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown and come hang out tomorrow morning show.

02:03:16.000 Well, it's a noon show, noon live Eastern Time.

02:03:18.000 On Rumble.

02:03:19.000 You'll see it on the homepage.

02:03:20.000 Don't miss it.

02:03:21.000 Mark, thanks for dropping on.

02:03:22.000 It was a blast.

02:03:23.000 We get a lot of pile drivers on the show.

02:03:24.000 So it's fun to have a guy that's switching up the opinions and we'll go.

02:03:28.000 Yeah.

02:03:29.000 Well, and to say one thing, too, why this is so important is what you guys are doing.

02:03:32.000 This is the filtering of ideas in America.

02:03:34.000 This is the most pure thing, which is why ultimately they're going to come for the podcasters, right?

02:03:39.000 But what you guys are doing, and I very much appreciate the opportunities, allowing for ideas to percolate, see the best idea if it can win.

02:03:45.000 Yeah, Mark, thanks so much for coming on.

02:03:47.000 This has been a really good conversation.

02:03:49.000 It was not even a little bit of.

02:03:51.000 Unspent time on the air.

02:03:53.000 But yeah, you can follow me at Carter Banks at Carter Banks on X and Instagram, et cetera.

02:03:59.000 So yeah, Tim.

02:04:00.000 We'll see you all at rumble.com slash Tim Kest IRL right now.

02:04:04.000 Thanks for hanging out a whole

02:04:57.000 episode without mentioning Israel.

02:04:59.000 Here we go.

02:05:00.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

02:05:01.000 That was fun.

02:05:02.000 You ready?

02:05:02.000 Here we go.

02:05:03.000 Yeah, I was just going to say, I'm very proud of us.

02:05:03.000 Hit it.

02:05:06.000 We're there?

02:05:07.000 No, we're not.

02:05:09.000 Boom.

02:05:19.000 Nope.

02:05:23.000 Didn't work.

02:05:24.000 Didn't work. 0.52

02:05:26.000 So the prompt is Tucker Carlson exploring deep underground NYC tunnels with a torch, explaining how he hopes to find some Jews. 0.97

02:05:33.000 And it just doesn't, it won't make it. 0.96

02:05:38.000 Here's Jeremy Renner for some reason.

02:05:41.000 What if you typed in like Jeremy Renner with the same exact prompt?

02:05:44.000 I said Tucker Carlson, it made Jeremy Renner.

02:05:47.000 Look at this Bob Odenkirk.

02:05:50.000 Why does it keep doing random celebrities?

02:05:52.000 Maybe they signed up.

02:05:53.000 For it.

02:05:53.000 I don't know.

02:05:55.000 Look at this.

02:05:56.000 This is impossible.

02:05:57.000 Impossible.

02:05:58.000 I can't believe I'm doing this.

02:06:00.000 It's disgusting. 0.98

02:06:02.000 Yo, dude, C Dance is crazy. 0.99

02:06:05.000 Here you go.

02:06:10.000 This is for a lot. 0.98

02:06:14.000 It's 2024, and I can't believe I have to say this, but all these leftists hating on Israel, it's disgusting. 1.00

02:06:20.000 Damn. 0.99

02:06:22.000 Is it who? 0.99

02:06:23.000 Check this out.

02:06:24.000 Check this out. 1.00

02:06:28.000 Holy shit, dude. 1.00

02:06:32.000 That's just fucking wild. 1.00

02:06:34.000 Yeah, that prompt was more normal. 0.99

02:06:35.000 The other one was a Jewish guy coming out of a tunnel complaining about leftists hating Israel. 0.93

02:06:39.000 I thought that would be funny for everybody.

02:06:41.000 Let's see who gets offended by it.

02:06:42.000 This prompt was a tsunami hitting a guy in a helicopter is filming as a tsunami hits New York City. 0.97

02:06:48.000 That's just fucking crazy where we're at. 0.95

02:06:51.000 Absolutely. 0.55

02:06:52.000 What do you think about this AI stuff?

02:06:54.000 Is this a serious threat to the future of the jobs market? 0.99

02:06:58.000 Such a, we fucked. 0.97

02:07:00.000 Well, we talk about jobs removed from purpose, right? 0.99

02:07:03.000 And I think the bigger threat is that people, specifically young men, don't have purpose.

02:07:07.000 I don't mean to interrupt you on that point.

02:07:09.000 You mentioned these a few times throughout the show.

02:07:11.000 And I agree with you.

02:07:12.000 When I was younger, so many of my mentors and people around me told me, like, obviously, if you like your work, you're never working a day in your life.

02:07:18.000 Day in your life, exactly.

02:07:19.000 I will say, though, for a vast majority of people.

02:07:22.000 Have you ever met a strip club owner?

02:07:24.000 Loves every day of his life.

02:07:26.000 No.

02:07:27.000 I don't know.

02:07:28.000 I feel like it's a tough business.

02:07:29.000 But, like, I met a strip club owner.

02:07:30.000 He was gambling heavily in Vegas.

02:07:32.000 He was drunk out of his mind.

02:07:34.000 And my buddy, we sat down at a blackjack table and we were playing.

02:07:37.000 And he's just totally drunk. 0.98

02:07:39.000 And he's like, probably 50 and kind of chubby and like Eastern European. 0.99

02:07:42.000 And then my buddy was just like cheering him on and making jokes with him. 1.00

02:07:46.000 And he goes, my friend.

02:07:47.000 And he puts a black chip in front of him.

02:07:48.000 And he's like, you play.

02:07:50.000 And then he was just like, oh, dude, I don't want to take your money from you.

02:07:53.000 And so he puts the chip down, wins, ends up winning like 600 bucks.

02:07:57.000 And then the guy looks at me, he's like, you're a good friend.

02:07:59.000 You keep.

02:08:00.000 And he was like, bro, oh my God.

02:08:01.000 Like, he had like beautiful women around him.

02:08:03.000 Yeah.

02:08:04.000 True stories.

02:08:04.000 Yeah, for real.

02:08:05.000 Back in December.

02:08:05.000 Amazing.

02:08:06.000 Amazing.

02:08:06.000 Yeah.

02:08:07.000 Ask Robbie about it.

02:08:08.000 I guess my point is it's a great thing to aspire to, but in practice, I feel like it's very difficult, especially widespread.

02:08:15.000 I think you could develop a love and passion for what you do, but for a vast majority of people, it feels like work is work, no?

02:08:22.000 Sure.

02:08:23.000 But I also think that leads to the devaluation of people, right? 0.96

02:08:27.000 Like, we go to school, we're propagandized from like the fucking day one, right? 0.94

02:08:31.000 I can say that, right? 0.99

02:08:32.000 Yeah, from fucking day one, right? 0.99

02:08:34.000 Okay. 1.00

02:08:34.000 We go. 1.00

02:08:35.000 The public school system is designed to keep people down, right?

02:08:38.000 Is it?

02:08:38.000 It's designed now.

02:08:39.000 I don't.

02:08:39.000 You believe that?

02:08:40.000 Yes.

02:08:41.000 I feel like I went to a great public school and was getting.

02:08:44.000 On Long Island.

02:08:45.000 Maybe there it's okay.

02:08:47.000 But overall, it's designed to keep people down.

02:08:48.000 Sure.

02:08:49.000 And they have high property taxes and whatnot.

02:08:51.000 But like, I don't know.

02:08:52.000 I guess it's a case by case basis.

02:08:54.000 But in my experience, With the public school system. 1.00

02:08:56.000 They gave me every opportunity in the world and helped turn me into the huge piece of shit that I am today. 0.99

02:09:00.000 But I'm just, you know. 1.00

02:09:02.000 That's also geographic variance, right?

02:09:04.000 Like you may not be so lucky as to grow up in a good public school district, right?

02:09:07.000 Which is why I think the equilibrium of a community college system, one that can actually then allow people.

02:09:13.000 I was at a bar before this, Charlestown, West Virginia.

02:09:16.000 I talked to a guy who's been in federal positions.

02:09:18.000 Which bar, Paddy?

02:09:20.000 1861.

02:09:21.000 Oh, I've been there, I think.

02:09:22.000 Yeah.

02:09:23.000 And I learned more from this guy than anyone else, right?

02:09:23.000 Yeah.

02:09:26.000 But it's like this is a guy who he was given no shot in life, like you could see from birth, he was headed to federal prison.

02:09:33.000 That's a failure.

02:09:34.000 Explain that though.

02:09:35.000 How so?

02:09:36.000 Okay, you grow up in an area in a broken household, right?

02:09:39.000 So let's talk about the destruction of the family.

02:09:41.000 Then, okay, you're gonna get into your teenage years, there's no opportunity for money. 0.97

02:09:45.000 Your single mother is there no opportunity for money, though, legally or illegally. 0.97

02:09:51.000 Even legally, no, I don't. 1.00

02:09:53.000 Does any start doing it illegally?

02:09:54.000 I do truly believe that we live in a very privileged society, and there are issues with affordability, but writ large, if you work hard, choose not to have a child out of wedlock, work a full time job, I think there's one other thing.

02:10:05.000 This is graduate high school.

02:10:06.000 Graduate high school.

02:10:07.000 This is a statistic from the Brookings Institute that you will work your way out of poverty.

02:10:10.000 That is achievable in the United States currently. 0.98

02:10:13.000 I'm not saying that it won't be hard, and you know, some people are born into fucked up situations. 0.97

02:10:18.000 Obviously, it's better to have two parents. 0.92

02:10:20.000 Obviously, it's better to have them fundraise you going to higher education and providing for you and providing food for you and making sure.

02:10:26.000 You're well nourished and raise you in a good environment.

02:10:28.000 But besides that, I do believe though, if you do work hard and do those other two things, not have a child out of wedlock, graduate high school, what was the third against AID?

02:10:37.000 High school, high school, wedlock, and work a job, work a regular job, then you can work your way out of poverty.

02:10:43.000 I'm not blaming this guy for whatever you say happened to him.

02:10:47.000 Yeah, I'm blaming him.

02:10:48.000 All right, yeah.

02:10:49.000 I'm not blaming him forever.

02:10:50.000 What did he do?

02:10:51.000 I don't know what he did.

02:10:53.000 He could do anything.

02:10:53.000 I think he could work and make a life for us.

02:10:55.000 A lot, a lot, a lot.

02:10:56.000 We got a video for you.

02:10:58.000 Israel, Nandemo, Kandemo, Shihai, Stilte, Hontoni, Uratai, Doita, Domerte, Nantoni, Urucenai. 1.00

02:11:06.000 Guys, an anti Semite. 1.00

02:11:13.000 What the fuck, dude? 1.00

02:11:14.000 He was. 1.00

02:11:15.000 What was the prompt?

02:11:16.000 The prompt was a podcast host complains about Israel that starts on fire. 0.99

02:11:21.000 It was Japanese. 1.00

02:11:22.000 As a Russian, it looks like.

02:11:23.000 Israel, Nandemo, Kandemo, Shihai, Stilte, Hontoni, Uratai, Doita, Domerte.

02:11:31.000 It looks like a Polish podcast, and then, but they're speaking Japanese. 1.00

02:11:37.000 I mean, he's a weeaboo.

02:11:38.000 Yo, this is amazing. 1.00

02:11:40.000 Try the same thing, see what happens to you. 1.00

02:11:41.000 Light weeaboos on fire. 0.97

02:11:42.000 Oh, Akbar, oh, Akbar. 1.00

02:11:45.000 So true. 0.93

02:11:45.000 Ballad. 0.93

02:11:46.000 Praise be Allah.

02:11:47.000 So, this is where I'm going to, again, take the unpopular opinion.

02:11:50.000 I think America specifically, but I think the Western world by and large is pretty good at assigning outcomes in life to.

02:11:59.000 Basically, your IQ level.

02:12:00.000 Like, if you track income to IQ level, if you're born in the hood, but you're a smart person, you're going to navigate out.

02:12:06.000 So, this I agree that like some people, you know, maybe are limited by chances, but I think generally America specifically is actually pretty good at sorting people. 0.99

02:12:14.000 I can and like you get fucked. 0.99

02:12:15.000 I'm not saying you can't get fucked. 1.00

02:12:17.000 There's some people that get fucked. 1.00

02:12:18.000 You get it. 0.99

02:12:19.000 Right.

02:12:20.000 But exceptions don't necessarily disprove the norm in this instance.

02:12:23.000 Sure.

02:12:23.000 But look where it's led us, right?

02:12:24.000 I think America can be saved through Appalachia.

02:12:27.000 That the family values, the community, that's something very unique.

02:12:32.000 Look at Fairfax County versus Grundy, Virginia.

02:12:35.000 Very different worlds.

02:12:37.000 But those kids grow up, for the most part, in a place where there's love, there's care, there's community.

02:12:41.000 We don't have community, we don't have trust.

02:12:43.000 So people may have more money in certain areas run by certain types of people, go to school systems where they pay more per child to be educated.

02:12:50.000 But is that better?

02:12:51.000 I think we're managing into decline.

02:12:52.000 And I get what you're saying.

02:12:54.000 Well, I think that was the plan of Democrats for a long time.

02:12:56.000 I believe that too. 0.52

02:12:57.000 And the idea was to shift wealth to China so that the U.S. falters of the global economy, preventing Thucydides' trap, preventing war.

02:13:05.000 And then the powerful elites just keep their assets into the country with wealth.

02:13:08.000 Trump is reversing that and they're pissed about it.

02:13:11.000 Question on that Do you believe that the powerful elites remove themselves from being Americans or whatever?

02:13:15.000 They're this globalist group that they're just trying to extract value and assets from?

02:13:19.000 That's what the elites are doing.

02:13:20.000 Okay, perfect.

02:13:21.000 Yeah, yeah, no, I fully agree then.

02:13:22.000 Trump is doing the opposite and they're mad.

02:13:24.000 Well, exactly.

02:13:25.000 I mean, drive around Great Falls, Virginia.

02:13:27.000 There's no industry in Northern Virginia except for the military industrial complex.

02:13:31.000 So, how do people have $3 million homes?

02:13:34.000 Good point.

02:13:35.000 I have government contracts, a whole lot of them.

02:13:37.000 There's a bunch of tech jobs in one part of Virginia that I drive through all the time.

02:13:40.000 There's like a tech corridor with all the big tech companies over there.

02:13:44.000 There's a lot of high paying jobs in Virginia.

02:13:48.000 And then we had H 1B visas coming.

02:13:50.000 Sure. 0.73

02:13:50.000 You're against H 1B visas. 0.73

02:13:52.000 Absolutely. 0.68

02:13:52.000 Full reform. 0.68

02:13:53.000 100%.

02:13:54.000 Nice.

02:13:55.000 I think it's a natural function of like modern economies that like there's going to be wealth concentrated around the capital.

02:14:00.000 That's just like every country and well in the world, really.

02:14:03.000 I mean, like this idea that you can fully.

02:14:07.000 This idea that you can adopt like a third way position and fully root out corruption has like been tried so many times.

02:14:11.000 Oh, you can't do that.

02:14:12.000 Like Juan Perón tried it.

02:14:14.000 I don't, I feel like you have like an inkling of this like Bernie Sanders anti rich.

02:14:20.000 Nah, nah.

02:14:21.000 Sentiment to you because it's like, I mean, there are a lot of rich people in Virginia and there's a lot of beautiful neighborhoods there, but isn't that a good thing? 0.99

02:14:27.000 Isn't that what, like, we'll, yeah, but the money's coming from bullshit. 0.98

02:14:30.000 It's USAID slush fund NGOs. 0.99

02:14:32.000 That's all money.

02:14:33.000 What I'm saying is we pay taxes, right?

02:14:36.000 And so this idea of people getting rich on their own merits and anything.

02:14:40.000 If you go to become the CEO of Northrop Grumman, that's awesome.

02:14:40.000 That's great, right?

02:14:44.000 Harvard Business School, great.

02:14:44.000 Phenomenal achievement.

02:14:46.000 You're managing every three months because your compensation is entirely tied to your restricted stock units, which are entirely tied to the earnings per share of the stock price of the company.

02:14:56.000 So you're going to manage that for three months at a time to make your wealth.

02:15:01.000 Who do you think you're, is there a political figure or commentator who you think?

02:15:05.000 Thomas Jefferson.

02:15:07.000 A modern figure who your values align with most closely.

02:15:10.000 There's nobody who you think.

02:15:11.000 No.

02:15:11.000 Pro-cost spectrum.

02:15:12.000 Who do you like as a commentator?

02:15:14.000 Is there any news outlets besides Tim Pool?

02:15:17.000 Aside from Tim Pool?

02:15:20.000 Correct.

02:15:20.000 You get your news.

02:15:21.000 Like, where did this position and your, you know, how you're informed about the world come from?

02:15:28.000 All the founding documents.

02:15:29.000 Nothing about data collection in there, though.

02:15:31.000 And you should be pro-property.

02:15:32.000 Or maybe there is.

02:15:33.000 Digital rights are the same as our natural rights, right?

02:15:36.000 Like, if you look at revolutionary thought, so Locke had it, then it goes to Mason, which he wrote the Virginia Bill of Rights.

02:15:43.000 Best.

02:15:43.000 Document there's ever been.

02:15:45.000 Jefferson basically copies it for the declaration, right?

02:15:48.000 But we've had no original thought on governance structures since, right?

02:15:51.000 But do you think there's a, again, a political commentator out there that does a particularly good job?

02:15:55.000 Aside from Tim Pool?

02:15:56.000 No.

02:15:56.000 For real?

02:15:57.000 Like, what news do you think?

02:15:58.000 That's the only good one.

02:15:59.000 Oh, I mean, I look at two sides of an issue.

02:16:00.000 Candace Owens.

02:16:02.000 But you have to listen to Candace Owens sometimes to be like, what's she saying? 1.00

02:16:06.000 Who's got a penis here, right? 1.00

02:16:07.000 No, you need to get rage baited by Candace Owens every time. 1.00

02:16:10.000 And it's fun to be rage baited. 0.59

02:16:11.000 That's why we love it, right?

02:16:12.000 It gets the blood flowing.

02:16:13.000 Okay, my bigger thesis?

02:16:15.000 Politics, all the blood, if you know, is a reality TV show, right?

02:16:18.000 Of course, okay.

02:16:19.000 Theatrics, and you've been on one exactly.

02:16:21.000 But I did that for a second study because Trump is the most successful of them all, right?

02:16:26.000 Not a politician before, he didn't buy into the system, which is why he has hope of being less corrupt than other people, right?

02:16:32.000 But he understood how to captivate America's attention.

02:16:35.000 Reality TV is the only medium currently that can capture over 50% of America's attention. 0.91

02:16:39.000 The real housewives, they just visited Congress and they were the most popular, they were the hottest block, exactly. 0.97

02:16:44.000 Yeah, that's what you should have been on.

02:16:46.000 I don't, I don't watch the show, I don't know if you could.

02:16:48.000 I dated a housewife's daughter.

02:16:50.000 For a point, but like you are of such a rich history, yeah.

02:16:53.000 In and done everywhere, you're so well connected.

02:16:55.000 This guy, you're not a CIA agent, FBI.

02:16:57.000 No, I hate him. 0.98

02:16:59.000 I want to demolish him, so it wouldn't be good for my so hard.

02:17:03.000 Like, you understand why I know, I know, but I'm having so many contradictions, yeah.

02:17:07.000 Um, but are we all here?

02:17:10.000 I say you won't take contributions from APAC.

02:17:12.000 Well, I can't because my blue shut down, so it's funny how you're like snubbing them, like, oh, yeah, I wouldn't take money from APAC.

02:17:20.000 Well, that's being a good politician, huh?

02:17:23.000 We don't take it though.

02:17:24.000 Only America. 0.99

02:17:25.000 I think only people who. 0.80

02:17:26.000 Want me to introduce you?

02:17:29.000 Unless you're going to be my handler, but I'm not kidding.

02:17:31.000 I can say, well, I'm just not doing it.

02:17:33.000 I'm Tim's handler.

02:17:34.000 I can add more clients.

02:17:36.000 Let's bring in some callers. 0.64

02:17:38.000 We got the chief media urologist.

02:17:40.000 What's going on?

02:17:41.000 What's up, chief?

02:17:42.000 Chief.

02:17:42.000 What up, chief?

02:17:43.000 Hey, thanks for taking my call.

02:17:44.000 I'm a longtime caller, first time listener.

02:17:47.000 Good evening.

02:17:48.000 I wanted to ask Mark about his take on health insurance, and I may have a slightly different take because I may or may not work in health insurance, and may or may not.

02:17:59.000 May not work for a certain company that was mentioned earlier in the program.

02:18:03.000 But I've always been conflicted working for a health insurer, I'm sorry, allegedly working for a health insurer, while also being quite fiscally conservative and concerned about how that money is being spent.

02:18:16.000 So, with that, my question is the government already regulates how much a health insurance company can earn as profit.

02:18:23.000 It's somewhere 80, 85%, kind of depending on the product.

02:18:28.000 That 20 to 15% has to be spent.

02:18:31.000 On medical costs with the 15, 20% going towards admin and profit.

02:18:38.000 And if that percentage isn't met over a rolling three year period, that money actually has to go back to the member.

02:18:45.000 So I know a lot of people don't know that about health insurance, but that really kind of brings me to my question How do you think the government owning an equity stake would actually make meaningful change in health insurance?

02:18:58.000 Sure.

02:18:58.000 And phenomenal question because, like, the MLRs, the medical loss ratios, are like one of the most complicated things that no one really.

02:19:06.000 Gets right, and a moment that led me to run for office was working on Melina, which you'll know, buying a bankrupt, non for profit insurer in Chicago, and then being able to adjust through the reimbursement rate for patients with ESRD so, end stage renal disease. 0.97

02:19:24.000 So, it hit me, it's like, okay, by managing for the bottom line, this is going to kill poor black people, right? 0.97

02:19:28.000 It's all financial engineering. 0.98

02:19:30.000 But the thesis with government in there if you remove buybacks.

02:19:36.000 And you force investment.

02:19:37.000 Well, that's the massive difference between a publicly traded healthcare system, right?

02:19:42.000 Because we're talking about insurers, but systems.

02:19:44.000 And with the insurer, so much as you can make the argument that there will be lower admin fees.

02:19:51.000 Some have said that, okay, basically with government insured universal healthcare, it's 2% admin fee.

02:19:58.000 I don't believe that.

02:19:58.000 I think it's probably closer to 3.5%.

02:20:00.000 With private, it's closer to 12%.

02:20:02.000 But let's look at compensation of executives.

02:20:05.000 I mean, if we can remove the compensation for executives who are managing for the short term, then absolutely.

02:20:10.000 But I look at it as the only way to make healthcare work isn't through universal healthcare.

02:20:15.000 It's through a bunch of different companies competing against each other like we have.

02:20:20.000 But if we're going to be giving them that money to treat people who don't pay taxes, I just think we should get something in return. 0.97

02:20:28.000 All right. 0.99

02:20:28.000 Well, I appreciate that. 0.99

02:20:29.000 I'm not sure that I agree fully.

02:20:32.000 You know, you had mentioned them being a fiduciary, and really, if they ever became a majority shareholder, they would still be really kind of forced to act as a fiduciary for the rest of the equity holders as well.

02:20:32.000 That's all right.

02:20:44.000 But I'll finish up with this just to say, you know, greed can be a powerful motivator.

02:20:49.000 And I think in private enterprise, a lot of times that's what actually helps the companies to be cheaper and to actually.

02:21:00.000 Be profitable.

02:21:01.000 I think greed makes it sound so pernicious.

02:21:03.000 I think it's self-interests.

02:21:06.000 Greed makes it.

02:21:07.000 Sure, but.

02:21:07.000 I just went for the short word.

02:21:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:21:09.000 No, and I hear you, right?

02:21:10.000 Like, greed is good, right?

02:21:12.000 That's the American system.

02:21:14.000 But then why in this American system are we just giving money away for free and not getting anything in return?

02:21:19.000 Well, so, I mean, the theory of health insurance, right, is that what we're paying for, what the government's getting in return is less overall health care costs because the cost of treating someone who is sick.

02:21:32.000 Further on down the line is way more expensive than paying for those PCP visits and those things on the front end.

02:21:40.000 Sure.

02:21:40.000 Oh, no.

02:21:40.000 And I fully agree with that.

02:21:42.000 But I would argue that then it would make sense to start with our food.

02:21:47.000 Because if you look at the decline of healthcare, it goes back to the consolidation, putting tobacco chemists behind Nabisco products, and then leading to if you can look at population health data of what groups have higher rates of obesity and these things live in food deserts.

02:22:05.000 You know, it's kind of by design.

02:22:07.000 And so I look at it as healthcare is a great conversation to have.

02:22:11.000 And it's like wrapped in this like healthcare, good, bad, whatever, free, less, whatever.

02:22:16.000 We need to treat the food, though, which is why the Make America Healthy Again movement, I think, is something that's a massive winner.

02:22:22.000 And I think it's something everyone on the left and the right should be talking about.

02:22:26.000 But then you look at who consolidates these large processed foods companies.

02:22:31.000 A guy named Blair Efron, who founded Centerview Partners, donates to Mark Warner, my former boss.

02:22:35.000 It's like, By design, these bankers make consolidation happen that make us way more unhealthy, and then it affects the entire healthcare system.

02:22:43.000 Yeah, well, I can at least agree with you on that last part, so I appreciate you.

02:22:47.000 Hey, thank you, man.

02:22:48.000 You want to shout anything out, brother?

02:22:50.000 I don't really have any shout outs.

02:22:52.000 I'm not on social media.

02:22:53.000 I gave that stuff up a long time ago.

02:22:55.000 I will say real quick a lot you were talking about work and you're talking about people enjoying their jobs.

02:23:02.000 This is something I have to remind myself and other people a lot of times.

02:23:05.000 Don't forget in Genesis, whereas birth pains are the curse of sin for the woman, the curse for the man is work.

02:23:13.000 And that's because of the fall of man into sin.

02:23:15.000 So sometimes, yeah, I can't say that I love my job.

02:23:19.000 It's kind of what I fell into, what I'm good at.

02:23:22.000 But I'm there with you.

02:23:23.000 Yeah, Jack, that's why we have weeds.

02:23:25.000 It was because.

02:23:26.000 Thanks for calling in, brothers, man.

02:23:27.000 This is the fall.

02:23:28.000 We have weeds.

02:23:28.000 We have to toil the fields.

02:23:30.000 And we have to deal with it.

02:23:31.000 All right.

02:23:32.000 Here we go, Eli.

02:23:32.000 You ready?

02:23:33.000 Let's hear it.

02:23:34.000 It's like they're controlling everything.

02:23:37.000 We've been Ward Ender's thing.

02:23:38.000 It's not been deafened.

02:23:40.000 The worst troll ever's thing.

02:23:41.000 What?

02:23:42.000 It's outsourced.

02:23:43.000 You weren't saying anything.

02:23:46.000 That's a good point.

02:23:47.000 It sounds like English, but it isn't. 0.96

02:23:49.000 Yeah, right. 1.00

02:23:50.000 It's like how a Mexican thinks Americans. 0.99

02:23:52.000 All right. 1.00

02:23:53.000 Next up, we got Sammy.

02:23:54.000 Sims language.

02:23:56.000 Simish. 0.70

02:23:58.000 Let's try that again. 0.58

02:23:59.000 Hey.

02:24:00.000 Hello.

02:24:00.000 Hey.

02:24:01.000 How goes it?

02:24:02.000 Good evening.

02:24:03.000 How goes it?

02:24:04.000 I just want to start by saying, Alad, I apologize for everything I have ever said.

02:24:09.000 I agree with you so much tonight.

02:24:10.000 That's okay.

02:24:11.000 I accept your apology.

02:24:13.000 So many contradictions.

02:24:13.000 Thanks for your time.

02:24:15.000 Hey, so Mark, mine's a simple one, and then I have a follow up.

02:24:18.000 What is your current registered voter party affiliation?

02:24:22.000 And we know what you're running as, but what are you currently registered as?

02:24:26.000 So in Virginia, you don't have to register, it's an open primary state.

02:24:30.000 So I'm.

02:24:31.000 An independent.

02:24:33.000 Okay.

02:24:34.000 Because I know that you can be a Democrat.

02:24:36.000 And, you know, so far I've dug into you waiting.

02:24:40.000 Nice.

02:24:41.000 And it seems, yeah, it seems so odd the timing of you getting here.

02:24:44.000 I'd almost feel like you slipped the book or some money to get on here because you literally filed as an independent yesterday in the Senate, the day before coming on this show.

02:24:53.000 And the grift, it just, I don't know.

02:24:56.000 What money am I making from this?

02:24:59.000 Well, I checked that too.

02:25:00.000 So you say you got kicked off ActBlue, but you've made zero dollars.

02:25:04.000 They'd also kick people off for not being inactive.

02:25:07.000 So that's another question.

02:25:08.000 Have you received any money at all for your campaign?

02:25:11.000 So we have to do the FEC filing.

02:25:11.000 Yeah.

02:25:15.000 That's about, I don't know, a little bit over $15,000.

02:25:18.000 It's not much.

02:25:19.000 But this is something I've put a lot of time into the past year.

02:25:25.000 I've made no money off of this.

02:25:27.000 And so the grift thing, I get it, it's a word in the zeitgeist, but I'm doing this because I care about America.

02:25:33.000 I'm not doing this to make money.

02:25:34.000 And so when you say I switched party affiliations, that's because you have to file to switch within 14 days.

02:25:42.000 And I switched on what, April 1st?

02:25:46.000 So yeah.

02:25:47.000 On April Fool's Day?

02:25:48.000 You think we're going to fall for that?

02:25:51.000 It's just, I guess, I'm sorry to interrupt the caller.

02:25:51.000 Hey.

02:25:54.000 And I guess you mentioned it a little bit.

02:25:55.000 I'm just trying to understand what you are trying to achieve with the campaign.

02:25:59.000 You're trying to impact the way Americans think about certain issues.

02:26:05.000 Do you have a more tangible goal?

02:26:06.000 Because I feel like that's so open ended.

02:26:08.000 Well, one is to win, right? 0.98

02:26:10.000 I'm running against a 71 year old who has dementia who's been compromised since the 1980s, and no one else has the balls to say that. 0.96

02:26:18.000 I put myself in danger.

02:26:19.000 You believe you have a serious chance at winning in this campaign by letting the truth show, yes, because I want to live in America where the best ideas win, right?

02:26:28.000 And I believe I have the best ideas.

02:26:29.000 So that's why I'm putting them out there.

02:26:31.000 But I'm doing this with great sacrifice and great danger to myself.

02:26:34.000 I have drones flying in front of my front door. 0.99

02:26:36.000 I had to get a gun, fucking up. 0.98

02:26:38.000 People follow me. 0.99

02:26:39.000 Left and right.

02:26:39.000 This guy's vice chairman of the Intel Committee.

02:26:42.000 This is not a safer and normal thing to do.

02:26:44.000 I'm doing this because I care about the future.

02:26:45.000 So, I mean, you're risking so much.

02:26:47.000 I'm really trying to understand what you're trying to gain because, again, maybe I'm just very cynical.

02:26:51.000 It just doesn't seem like a winnable race.

02:26:53.000 Sure.

02:26:54.000 So, when you're sacrificing so much, it makes me consider that there's, it may be, ulterior motives.

02:27:00.000 I mean, I want to create a world that I want to bring my future children into.

02:27:00.000 Yeah, sure.

02:27:04.000 But you're not going to be able to do that through this campaign.

02:27:06.000 Oh, yeah, no.

02:27:06.000 And I fully disagree.

02:27:08.000 Okay.

02:27:08.000 The butterfly effect one human being.

02:27:11.000 Changes cataclysmically the course of history by putting ideas out there.

02:27:16.000 That doesn't mean they become in power or anything, but putting ideas are the most powerful thing we have.

02:27:22.000 Caller, what was your follow up?

02:27:23.000 Yeah, sorry.

02:27:25.000 Yeah.

02:27:26.000 I work in partisan politics, okay?

02:27:28.000 And I work with people like you all the time.

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