Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 13, 2024


Trump Announces NO TAXES ON OVERTIME, Says NO MORE Debates With Kamala w-Joel Valdez | Timcast IRLTrump Announces NO TAXES ON OVERTIME, Says NO MORE Debates With Kamala w-Joel Valdez | Timcast IRL


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Summary

On this week's episode of the podcast, we discuss the latest in the Kamala Harris vs. Donald Trump primary battle, including whether or not she should have a second debate, why she wants more debates, and what it means for the future of the Democratic primary race. Plus, we talk about the new Mr. Bocas Pumpkin Spice flavor, and why it's going to be the last time you can buy a bag of that.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Donald Trump has announced a new policy position.
00:00:15.000 No tax on overtime.
00:00:18.000 It's brilliant.
00:00:18.000 I support it.
00:00:20.000 Every single libertarian in the country is probably clapping and they support it because they're getting rid of taxes.
00:00:25.000 So Donald Trump says no tax on tips.
00:00:27.000 Now he says no tax on overtime.
00:00:28.000 I'm a big fan.
00:00:29.000 It's a big move.
00:00:30.000 I wonder how long until Kamala Harris adopts the same position.
00:00:34.000 But interestingly, while the political class does keep pushing that Kamala Harris won the debate, I don't think they're asking themselves what it means to win the debate because they're looking at decorum, they're looking at behavior, they're looking at Trump's attitude, and certainly I would agree if that's the metric.
00:00:50.000 However, CNN ran a flash poll that found when it came to issues of the economy, people who favored Trump lightly favored him more afterwards on the economy.
00:01:02.000 Now Kamala Harris wants more debates and Trump said no!
00:01:05.000 Interesting question.
00:01:06.000 Does Kamala want more debates because she did so well she wants to keep battering Trump, or does she want another debate because she missed her opportunity to articulate an economic position and Trump realizes he can't give her that opportunity?
00:01:19.000 So we're going to talk about that.
00:01:20.000 The betting markets, wow, Polly Market's got a 74% chance for Kamala, but Nate Silver's got 60% for Donald Trump.
00:01:27.000 Yo, we're in the final stretches.
00:01:29.000 54 days to go until the election.
00:01:31.000 And then I gotta give a shout-out to Matt Walsh.
00:01:33.000 He's doing the Lord's work.
00:01:35.000 Several prominent DEI personalities have disabled their ex-accounts following the trailers for Am I Racist?
00:01:42.000 And now we have a statement from Robin DiAngelo, this DEI writer.
00:01:47.000 I gotta tell you, it kinda looks like she's trying to gear up for some kind of fraud claim.
00:01:52.000 But let's be real, if she were to sue Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire, it would make them more famous, and it'd make them more money.
00:01:58.000 So we'll talk about all of that, but before we do, my friends, head over to casbaroo.com!
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00:02:43.000 We will have a big update for you next week on our lawsuit against the Kamala Harris campaign.
00:02:49.000 It is ongoing, there have been some moves, but I gotta let the lawyers do their thing.
00:02:55.000 Trust me when I say, we're going very, very fast relative to how these things normally Go, but I want to make sure you know that we have not stopped our efforts there.
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00:03:12.000 Joining us to talk about this and everything else is Joel Valdez.
00:03:16.000 Thanks so much for having me.
00:03:17.000 Hey, everyone.
00:03:17.000 My name is Joel Valdez.
00:03:19.000 For those who don't know me, I am a pro-Trump MAGA operative in Washington, D.C.
00:03:24.000 For the past four and a half years, I served as communications director for the great Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida.
00:03:31.000 And as of this week, I'm starting as senior advisor for Congresswoman Lauren Boebert.
00:03:35.000 So glad to be back on TimCast.
00:03:37.000 Thank you guys for having me.
00:03:38.000 If you want to follow me at RealJoelValdez and happy to be back on the show.
00:03:41.000 Yeah, man.
00:03:42.000 Congrats on the promotion, dude.
00:03:44.000 That's fantastic.
00:03:45.000 I am Ian Crossland, internet video gamer and streamer, also musician, actor, social media developer.
00:03:50.000 I'm really happy to be back.
00:03:52.000 Good to be here, too.
00:03:53.000 Yeah, it's fun to have you, Joel.
00:03:54.000 We had your new boss on earlier this week.
00:03:57.000 She watched the pre-show for the debate with us, so I'm glad you could join us in our new studio.
00:04:03.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
00:04:04.000 I'm a writer for scnr.com at Scanner News.
00:04:06.000 Check out all their work at TimCastNews on the internet.
00:04:08.000 Let's get started.
00:04:09.000 Here's the big story from Reuters.com.
00:04:11.000 Trump says he will end all taxes on overtime.
00:04:15.000 I love where we're going.
00:04:17.000 Trump says no taxes on tips.
00:04:18.000 I agree.
00:04:19.000 Kamala Harris comes out and says, oh yeah, no taxes on tips too.
00:04:23.000 So Trump tries to undercut her by saying, oh yeah, no taxes on overtime.
00:04:27.000 She's going to have to come out and entertain the same policy.
00:04:31.000 Trump's then going to come out and say, 20% off taxes!
00:04:36.000 We are looking at market competition towards the end of taxation.
00:04:41.000 I wonder if he's going to keep one-upping Kamala, or she's trying to copy him, so he keeps one-upping her until he gets to the point where he goes, okay, fine, flat tax.
00:04:49.000 Flat sales tax, no income tax.
00:04:51.000 That's where we're going.
00:04:52.000 I love where this is going.
00:04:53.000 It's eventually going to have to get to that point where we abolish the federal income tax or abolish the IRS.
00:04:58.000 I think these sound like great ideas and I think we're on that path.
00:05:01.000 At a rally he said, quote, as part of our additional tax cuts we will end all taxes on overtime.
00:05:06.000 Your overtime hours will be tax free.
00:05:10.000 That's the right move.
00:05:11.000 It is.
00:05:11.000 That's incredible.
00:05:12.000 But do you think Kamala Harris will now rip this policy off?
00:05:16.000 Yep.
00:05:16.000 I think that's her signature move right now, and it's interesting because she in no way is ever setting the trend.
00:05:23.000 He is always leading, she is always following.
00:05:26.000 That should tell you right now, for someone who took forever to release her policies, she should really just admit that she will do whatever Donald Trump tells her to.
00:05:34.000 Yeah, also, he wants to get rid of tax on Social Security too, right?
00:05:38.000 That was another concern.
00:05:39.000 I saw Super Chat already.
00:05:40.000 He's talked about that before, I think.
00:05:42.000 So these are, while you're pulling that up, I imagine this is overtime, this is just income tax.
00:05:47.000 No more income tax on your overtime.
00:05:48.000 Not that the company doesn't have to pay payroll tax or anything.
00:05:51.000 This is from a few days ago, actually.
00:05:54.000 Trump also promised to end taxes on Social Security.
00:05:56.000 I knew I'd seen that somewhere.
00:05:57.000 Jeez.
00:05:58.000 And it makes sense.
00:05:59.000 It's insane to tax Social Security.
00:06:01.000 It doesn't make any sense at all.
00:06:02.000 Unemployment, too.
00:06:03.000 You pay taxes to make sure that you get to receive unemployment, and then when you receive unemployment, you're supposed to pay taxes on that again?
00:06:09.000 On something you've already paid taxes on to get?
00:06:11.000 Doesn't make sense.
00:06:12.000 It's a double dip.
00:06:13.000 Agreed.
00:06:13.000 It makes no sense.
00:06:14.000 So Trump is leading the charge on getting rid of people's taxes.
00:06:18.000 And I think it's fairly obvious when you cut taxes, the economy improves.
00:06:21.000 Generally speaking.
00:06:23.000 And I think it's what voters need to hear right now, that there is a potential for relief to come because so many people are struggling economically, struggling to keep up with inflation, and also to keep up with the demoralization, right?
00:06:35.000 If you feel like you're being told by the government, oh, but buying power is up, but you're saying, well, I am still paying a ton for everything and it seems to only be getting worse, hearing that someone actually wants to make your life easier is what you need.
00:06:48.000 I think this would cost the government a bunch of money because they're not going to be taking in income tax over time, but it would save the citizens a lot of money, which then could incentivize them to spend it in other realms where they're going to be putting the money back into the government through other forms of taxation.
00:07:03.000 I guess that's the plan.
00:07:05.000 I don't know what his numbers are and how much he intends for the government to lose in the immediate and then recoup in the long run.
00:07:11.000 I can just tell you this, that I used to have to work overtime all the time.
00:07:15.000 So, working out of O'Hare.
00:07:17.000 You had what's called mandatory overtime.
00:07:20.000 So, as part of the union contracts, if you're working, there was the morning shift and the night shift.
00:07:26.000 So, this is ramp, this is loading planes, pushing back planes, things like that.
00:07:30.000 You get in at 1.30, you're out by 10.
00:07:33.000 But, if your plane is delayed, you have no choice, you are required by your contract to stay.
00:07:38.000 We call it mandatory overtime.
00:07:41.000 And, some people like it.
00:07:44.000 Most people hated it, and that's why we hated working the night shift, but the morning shift was 5.30 until 1.
00:07:49.000 So for a lot of people, it's like, it's pretty brutal to have to choose 5.30 in the morning.
00:07:54.000 If you want to work 1.30 and then work tonight, you're gonna get hit with overtime.
00:07:58.000 I gotta tell you.
00:07:59.000 If I had been working and Trump came out and said this, I'd have been like, that right there, nothing else matters.
00:08:05.000 That got my vote as well.
00:08:07.000 Yeah, I mean, Trump is consistently proving that he's the change candidate in this race.
00:08:10.000 Absolutely.
00:08:11.000 And it also, I think, reaffirms that he is the leader of the Republican Party because, you know, Trump comes out with a brilliant policy followed by members of Congress introducing legislation almost immediately.
00:08:20.000 I think when President Trump first said no tax on tips, Congressman Matt Gaetz introduced legislation that followed it immediately.
00:08:27.000 With the Social Security, I think it was Congressman Thomas Massey introduced the Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act so that there is an elimination of the unjust double tax, which Congresswoman Boebert is also a co-sponsor on.
00:08:42.000 And so it's great to see that President Trump leads the charge.
00:08:45.000 We have members of Congress backing him up and, you know, neocons in shambles.
00:08:49.000 I got a question about this.
00:08:50.000 Is it, uh, no tax on, on the, just cause of overtime time and a half.
00:08:55.000 It's basically what you're getting time and a half.
00:08:56.000 So you get paid 10 bucks an hour.
00:08:57.000 You're going to be getting paid 15 for your overtime hours.
00:08:59.000 Is this just tax free on those extra $5 on that extra 50% or is this tax free?
00:09:05.000 Wow.
00:09:05.000 Yeah.
00:09:05.000 Because he's had overtime hours.
00:09:06.000 He didn't say overtime pay.
00:09:09.000 So imagine this, you're making, it's at this point now I think if you're, actually I'd be interested to check in with my old jobs and see how much they're paying now because when I was there it was like 10 bucks an hour.
00:09:22.000 You are loading planes, you're getting 10 bucks an hour.
00:09:25.000 You do overtime, you get 15.
00:09:26.000 But who cares?
00:09:27.000 Because they're like, but you're getting taxed on a percentage.
00:09:29.000 So it's just everybody rolls their eyes like, thank you for the extra $10 to make it so I can't get home and go to bed.
00:09:34.000 And I gotta wake up in the morning.
00:09:36.000 And, you know, what I would add is when I worked at the airport, I like to do four shifts in two days.
00:09:43.000 Get in at 530, leave by 10.
00:09:46.000 Be there the whole day, because then you can get as many hours as you can in, and then you have the rest of the week for whatever other projects you're working on, whatever you want to do.
00:09:53.000 But you always get hit with that mandatory overtime.
00:09:56.000 If you're getting $10 an hour, and then you're only taking home $8, but now they say, but don't worry if you work overtime, you're going to be getting basically double your pay.
00:10:05.000 Because now, the whole $15 is not going to be taxed at all.
00:10:08.000 People are going to be begging for overtime.
00:10:11.000 It's a good point because Trump says the people who work overtime are some of our hardest workers, but this is going to incentivize overtime.
00:10:17.000 That's great for the economy!
00:10:18.000 People are going to be working more!
00:10:20.000 Now there is, alternatively, it could be bad.
00:10:23.000 You know what could be bad?
00:10:25.000 Because now, there are going to be companies that say, why hire another staffer?
00:10:32.000 It's $10 an hour for employee A, but I need someone who can work a few hours at the end of the day.
00:10:38.000 I've got to hire another employee at $10 an hour.
00:10:40.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:10:42.000 I just have one employee work extra overtime and he's going to make more money than if I paid him anyway.
00:10:47.000 So it could have a perverse incentive where companies actually want to hire less because people are willing to work even longer.
00:10:53.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:54.000 I think you really want to incentivize more employees is what you want.
00:10:58.000 A lot of companies from what I know are having trouble hiring.
00:11:01.000 One of the reasons they have to ask for extra overtime right now from current workers is that they do not have people applying to fill openings that they have.
00:11:09.000 So while it could incentivize them to just continue to extend overtime hours for already overtime workers, I think you might see people who are not that interested in going to the job market right now start applying with more vigor.
00:11:23.000 Because if you are able to say, OK, I'm going to work this many hours a week, but all of my overtime is actually going to be tax free, you ultimately earn a lot more in the long term over the course of a year.
00:11:35.000 And I think people want that right now.
00:11:37.000 Also, I'm wondering about people now that are on salaries and if they're going to end up feeling like they're getting screwed.
00:11:42.000 It would be interesting if people start calculating it's better to work hourly than to earn, you know, whatever the salary wage is because there are, I mean, I know a lot of hourly workers who earn more than, you know, than other friends who have salary jobs just because the hourly offers more benefits.
00:11:57.000 And overtime, like you don't get overtime and salary.
00:12:00.000 Overtime, flex time, you can sometimes pick up more shifts, like with your salary, this is what you're earning and that's it.
00:12:05.000 Yeah, I want to see this proposal somehow incentivize more workers as well.
00:12:11.000 So like the company, although the income is going to be no income tax on overtime, the company maybe has less payroll tax if they have more employees.
00:12:21.000 Or like a diminishing return on their payroll taxes the more employees that they bring in and keep under the overtime threshold.
00:12:28.000 Because the government might be like, well, we're going to receive more money from your company if you have two employees working 40 hours than if you have one employee working 80.
00:12:35.000 So we're going to incentivize you through tax reduction to hire more employees.
00:12:38.000 Interesting.
00:12:40.000 It's possible.
00:12:41.000 I mean, this is a challenge with any kind of announcement of a policy like this.
00:12:46.000 The details are not yet clear, and part of that is because, you know, unless it's done through executive action, it's going to have to be done through Congress, and that's always sort of a deal-making process.
00:12:56.000 I feel like Joel can attest to this.
00:12:58.000 If there were a bill that said, we don't want to tax overtime anymore, you know somebody would tack on some kind of irrelevant proposal.
00:13:05.000 How did it work the last time when they, you said that they were doing the social security, they didn't want to tax social security or they, what was it they wanted?
00:13:11.000 As of now, it's just a bill that's been introduced by Thomas Massey.
00:13:14.000 So I'm not sure if it's gone through a committee vote or if it goes straight to the House floor.
00:13:20.000 There's a few different procedures, but I know that as of now, it's just a bill that's been introduced.
00:13:23.000 Just a single issue bill?
00:13:25.000 Yep.
00:13:26.000 Okay.
00:13:26.000 So they could do that with something like this as well?
00:13:28.000 Yeah, I'm not sure what appropriate committee it would have to go through.
00:13:32.000 But, you know, when you introduce a bill and then put it through committee, that alone puts the members on their heels on how they're going to vote publicly.
00:13:45.000 And so sometimes they don't want to do that.
00:13:46.000 Sometimes they do some funny business to make sure that that bill doesn't see the light of day or, you know, they make some technicalities.
00:13:52.000 Could you imagine being whatever committee member and then having to go back to your district and be like, oh, well, I'm on the committee for this thing, and we got sent a bill that meant that overtime hours wouldn't have been taxed, and I voted against it.
00:14:04.000 I didn't want it to reach the rest of the chamber.
00:14:07.000 That doesn't seem like it would bode well.
00:14:08.000 I can't think of a district in America where people would be like, we don't care about that issue at all.
00:14:13.000 I think most Americans would be impacted by this.
00:14:15.000 Yeah.
00:14:16.000 Well, I'd love to see you put up for a vote.
00:14:17.000 We'll have to stay watching them closely.
00:14:20.000 It's just hard.
00:14:20.000 Like, how would you message on the opposite of that?
00:14:22.000 It would just be like, I could have helped overtime workers and instead I chose not to.
00:14:28.000 Well, that's why they love their poison pills.
00:14:30.000 The argument would be like, it's going to bankrupt this government program, which is going to end up costing seniors their social security because we're not taking enough income tax now because we're losing it to this free money.
00:14:41.000 Social security is going to die anyway, so that one doesn't inspire me at least.
00:14:46.000 I mean, probably Jolta will never get social security.
00:14:50.000 It's a dying institution for most Americans.
00:14:52.000 Current seniors, I feel awful for them, right?
00:14:54.000 They shouldn't be double-taxed on Social Security.
00:14:56.000 But it's not an institution that's sustainable.
00:14:58.000 So I think if you tell younger voters, oh, well, it could potentially harm Social Security, they'd be like, well, what's new?
00:15:03.000 Well, if there's another presidential debate, I'd love to see how Kamala would respond to that.
00:15:08.000 There's got to be another debate.
00:15:09.000 We'll see.
00:15:10.000 Trump, what is he doing?
00:15:11.000 He's got to go for it and he's got to chill out and just relax and talk about stuff like this.
00:15:14.000 Like, this is the kind of stuff he should have brought up in the debate.
00:15:17.000 No tax on overtime.
00:15:19.000 Control the debate with the comment, with the statement.
00:15:22.000 That's a good point.
00:15:23.000 I'd love to be in a presidential debate so I can just be like, I want to abolish social security.
00:15:28.000 There you go.
00:15:29.000 I will touch it, and I will take from it, and I will shut it down.
00:15:33.000 So what you would do is just scale it out, just phase it out over the next 20 years or something?
00:15:38.000 It was a bad idea.
00:15:40.000 And we can clearly see why it was a bad idea.
00:15:42.000 It takes four workers to sustain one recipient.
00:15:45.000 And so what we're basically saying is, we should sacrifice the young for the sake of the old.
00:15:49.000 That is a ridiculous thing for society.
00:15:51.000 On its face, it's like, I'm going to pay taxes and insurance or whatever into this insurance
00:15:55.000 program and then when I retire, I'm going to recollect all that as my retirement.
00:15:59.000 But they don't account for the inflation and the reduction of value of the money.
00:16:02.000 Well, the common man doesn't understand.
00:16:03.000 If I put $10,000 in over the course of 40 years, in 40 years that's probably going to
00:16:07.000 be worth about $2,000.
00:16:08.000 It was a game where they decided, look, population's expanding, right?
00:16:12.000 So let's just, instead of having to save for retirement or have a family take care of us, let's just make the expanding generations pay for it.
00:16:20.000 Sooner or later, you—they must have been assuming at the time, like, look, people are going to keep having kids.
00:16:25.000 So long as they have three kids, we got nothing to worry about.
00:16:28.000 And now they're having 1.6 kids.
00:16:30.000 And now they're like, OK, it's going to implode.
00:16:32.000 And all these politicians are like, I will not touch your social security because I don't want to lose the senior vote in the most important voting block.
00:16:39.000 It's okay.
00:16:41.000 So older people are going to keep voting to take from the young, while young people struggle to buy homes and get off the ground.
00:16:48.000 And the older voters are going to be like, don't know, don't care.
00:16:51.000 I want it.
00:16:51.000 It's mine.
00:16:52.000 And I'm going to keep voting for it.
00:16:54.000 And the Simpsons made the joke in like 1992.
00:16:56.000 When Abe Simpson is making fun of people, I think he's making fun of young people being like, good for nothing, so you just want everything for free.
00:17:02.000 Then he runs into the social security officer and goes, I'm old, gimme it, I deserve it, it's mine!
00:17:06.000 That's how I feel about it.
00:17:08.000 It's sad to think about elderly people going bankrupt and living on the street because they don't have any income at all.
00:17:14.000 And this is a perverse system that told people, don't have a family, don't have kids, don't worry, you'll be fine, government will pay for it.
00:17:20.000 We will by force make young people pay the bills of people who didn't have families.
00:17:24.000 That's insane.
00:17:26.000 I love this idea of seeing you on the presidential debate stage.
00:17:29.000 If we ever saw a potential President Poole, who would be your running mate?
00:17:32.000 You wouldn't see a president.
00:17:34.000 If I ever had a campaign, it would be intentionally just to say things that are unpopular, but I think people need to hear.
00:17:38.000 Yeah, but that's that Warren Beatty movie, and he won.
00:17:42.000 What was that movie called?
00:17:43.000 I don't remember.
00:17:44.000 I get the whole youth vote.
00:17:46.000 They're like, how much money do we get back?
00:17:47.000 I'll be like, well, I guess if we eliminate social security, you're going to get back, what, 7% to 12%?
00:17:50.000 You wouldn't have a VP?
00:17:53.000 I'd have to be AOC, dude.
00:17:55.000 Well, he's got to vet a bunch of candidates.
00:17:57.000 You don't know who's trendy at the time.
00:17:58.000 I don't want to be president at all, so I can't even think of who a VP would be.
00:18:01.000 Who can skate the best.
00:18:03.000 Well, if the whole point is just sending messages that are disruptive, Michael Malice is always the go-to as someone we need in a position of, like, Press authority, you know, so press secretary was great for the Libertarian Party.
00:18:17.000 It crossed my mind when I was watching that debate that if you were, I told you this before the show, if you had been on stage in Trump's position instead of him and you were just able to actually explain some of the problems, like when Kamala was like, they were like, Trump, why didn't you vote for her border bill that put all these extra border agents on the border?
00:18:32.000 And he ended up just defending his rallies and being like, people don't leave my rallies.
00:18:36.000 I don't even want, hold on, people don't ever leave my rallies.
00:18:39.000 Let's literally talk about why you voted against, or why you pushed to get this vote shot down to get all these border agents in there, because it was going to let more illegal immigrants come across every day, or every month, or whatever.
00:18:48.000 Here's my answer.
00:18:49.000 Well, with all due respect, it's not that I control Congress or the Senate.
00:18:54.000 I simply made a few phone calls to members of Congress and asked them what they had thought about it, and I gave them my opinion.
00:18:59.000 And my opinion was that this bill actually codified an increase in unchecked, unvetted border crossings.
00:19:08.000 And I made phone calls to members of Congress and asked them, why are they calling it a border security bill if it's going to bring more people in?
00:19:14.000 I mean, if it's bringing more people in, Kamala's, you know, the Biden administration, we shouldn't be supporting this.
00:19:20.000 That's simple.
00:19:21.000 The American people want a border security bill that's going to restrict and reduce the amount of illegal immigrants.
00:19:26.000 And that's it.
00:19:27.000 Do you guys remember off the top of your head how many more immigrants it was going to allow in every month?
00:19:30.000 It was like thousands per day or something.
00:19:32.000 It was 5,000 illegals every day.
00:19:36.000 And it was going- that many more people were just going to be allowed- It was an amnesty bill, it wasn't a security bill.
00:19:41.000 No, it was a total amnesty bill.
00:19:43.000 And the problem is, politicians, and I think, you know, look, Trump can do whatever he wants, there's a- you guys can insult me and tell me I'm wrong all day, next I ain't never gonna run for office.
00:19:51.000 In my opinion, however, which I am entitled to, I think the problem with a lot of politicians is they'd say something like, that was an amnesty bill!
00:19:58.000 That would have been great!
00:19:58.000 Instead of just saying, well, I wouldn't characterize it as me shutting the bill down.
00:20:04.000 I mean, I'm a private citizen.
00:20:05.000 I was calling a few people and asking them their thoughts.
00:20:08.000 But I think the problem with the bill is that it created a provision.
00:20:12.000 The provision increased the amount of illegal immigrants that they were going to allow in every day.
00:20:16.000 The number should be zero.
00:20:17.000 If you come to this country, you've got to come in legally.
00:20:19.000 That means you come to our borders, you come to our embassies, you come to our consulates, you fill out the paperwork.
00:20:24.000 Their border security bill is what they called it, but it allowed up to 5,000 illegal immigrants to cross the border without being vetted at all, and they called that a reduction.
00:20:33.000 So let me just put it this way.
00:20:35.000 Well, also, Kamala Harris said on the debate stage that he killed the bill because of politics.
00:20:40.000 They didn't want to give him a win, but it wasn't because of politics, it was because of policy.
00:20:43.000 If we want zero people crossing our border illegally, and we have 10,000 people crossing, and you come to me and say, let's set the number at 5,000, I'm going to say, no, the number is zero.
00:20:53.000 And Kamala's bill was $5,000.
00:20:54.000 Kamala was basically asking America, like if you were a city, to say, we're okay with, you know, 15% violent crime every year.
00:21:02.000 Like, that's the strangest thing.
00:21:04.000 It was saying a certain amount is okay, and I don't think that's what any American would want.
00:21:09.000 That's why the bill is bad.
00:21:10.000 You can call it a border security bill every single day, but the reality is it was okaying a certain amount of crime in America at a time when Americans, one of their top issues is crime.
00:21:20.000 No, there was a lot wrong with that bill.
00:21:22.000 It's 5,000 illegals every day, increasing green cards by 50,000 a year, work permits for adult children of H-1B holders, immediate work permits to every illegal alien released from custody.
00:21:36.000 Like, that's just crazy.
00:21:37.000 That is a total amnesty bill.
00:21:39.000 That is not border security.
00:21:44.000 And then they, what's the right word for this, they dissolve the asylum claims so there's no enforcement action against these people now, which is effective amnesty.
00:21:54.000 They say, come here, here's a work permit, you have a court date in one month.
00:21:59.000 A week goes by and they say your court date's been dismissed, have a nice day.
00:22:02.000 Which basically means they're here with a work permit, and they can't be deported.
00:22:07.000 They're basically giving them amnesty.
00:22:10.000 No, it's not border security.
00:22:11.000 It's literally an authorized invasion of the country.
00:22:14.000 Let's talk about the latest forecasts.
00:22:17.000 So the big news right now is Kamala Harris wins!
00:22:20.000 She won the debate!
00:22:22.000 But you've got to ask yourself what it means to win the debate.
00:22:24.000 So of course you've got the Kamala Cope, that's what I call it.
00:22:27.000 The anti-Trumpers who are posting laughing emojis being like, Everybody knows Kamala won!
00:22:33.000 Dude, just because your friends at the New York Times said she won doesn't mean it's true.
00:22:38.000 The first thing I would say is, on the surface, everyone's going to claim their person won.
00:22:42.000 I think it's fair to say that Kamala was better prepared than people thought.
00:22:45.000 I think it's fair to say that she goaded Trump and actually got him off kilter on many points.
00:22:51.000 But I'm not sure that, in the end, Kamala actually is the winner in terms of tangibles.
00:22:57.000 So you ask yourself what it means to win a debate.
00:22:59.000 Ian, do you think Kamala won the debate?
00:23:01.000 No.
00:23:01.000 You don't think she won the debate?
00:23:02.000 No, I don't think either of them won that debate.
00:23:04.000 They both looked like idiots in my mind.
00:23:05.000 Not idiots, they both looked like bitter people with no plan.
00:23:09.000 So are you going to vote for either of them?
00:23:11.000 No.
00:23:11.000 No, that was disgusting to watch.
00:23:12.000 So here's Pineapple, what is he wearing?
00:23:14.000 Pineapples?
00:23:15.000 Yeah, Richie Jackson gave this to me.
00:23:17.000 That's pretty cool.
00:23:18.000 Thanks.
00:23:18.000 He's wearing, I don't know what that is.
00:23:19.000 Trump won't tax your pineapples.
00:23:21.000 I hope not.
00:23:22.000 I think it's a lamp.
00:23:23.000 So the goal is how you convince Ian Crosland to vote for Donald Trump.
00:23:28.000 And this is the point.
00:23:30.000 I think that what Ian is saying has actually been reflected by many of the surveys and the polls that were done.
00:23:36.000 New York Times, all the people saying undecided.
00:23:39.000 I think they had a couple.
00:23:41.000 People said Harris, but then most of the panel just said, I don't know that anybody won.
00:23:45.000 And I'm going to tell you this.
00:23:47.000 That means Trump won.
00:23:49.000 And I know all the liberals and leftists are going to be like, cope, cope and see.
00:23:53.000 Dude, you can tell me whatever you want.
00:23:55.000 If you ignore the facts, it'll be your detriment in 54 days.
00:23:58.000 The reason Trump won, if that's the case, is Trump didn't have to win.
00:24:03.000 So, in the debate, Kamala goads Trump, Trump makes mistakes.
00:24:07.000 We get out of this with people saying, I don't know who won, that was ridiculous.
00:24:10.000 Well, Trump didn't need anything.
00:24:12.000 Kamala was already failing, calling herself the underdog.
00:24:15.000 Kamala needed the opportunity to prove that she had something to change, and she did not.
00:24:19.000 Trump could have gone up there and done the chicken dance for an hour, for all anyone cares.
00:24:23.000 As long as Kamala articulated her plan and helped people understand what she would do that was different, she would have won.
00:24:30.000 She did not.
00:24:31.000 She answered her questions as insults to Donald Trump, and Trump responded to the insults, and all anyone saw that didn't know anything about politics was two people yelling at each other.
00:24:39.000 I think the problem is the media is looking at this like sports, right?
00:24:42.000 They think if Kamala gets Donald Trump flustered, she gets a point.
00:24:47.000 So if she does it twice, she gets two points.
00:24:48.000 If he doesn't do it to her, then, you know, he doesn't get any points.
00:24:51.000 But both candidates went in with different objectives.
00:24:55.000 And I think her campaign really miscalculated by trying to make Trump look bad.
00:25:00.000 That's why they wanted the mics, right?
00:25:01.000 They said, you know, the American people deserve to hear what he's saying, however deranged it is.
00:25:06.000 They wanted him to be this caricature that they have created of him.
00:25:10.000 But Donald Trump is a known quality in American politics.
00:25:13.000 I mean, he launched his campaign for presidency, what, the first one eight years ago.
00:25:17.000 He's been on the scene for over a decade.
00:25:19.000 He's been a public figure for way longer than that.
00:25:22.000 And so if he looks brash, if he looks like he's getting angry, it doesn't make a difference.
00:25:26.000 She had to prove that she was A, a personality, and B, someone with policies who understood them.
00:25:31.000 And she didn't either.
00:25:32.000 Real quick, I got to read this point just before, so I'll put a tag on that.
00:25:35.000 This is from the Liberal Patriot.
00:25:37.000 There are clearly reasons for concern, besides the data noted above.
00:25:43.000 Polling right after the debate found that Harris did little to improve voter confidence in her ability to handle the all-important issue of the economy.
00:25:50.000 A CNN flash poll among debate watchers found that before the debate, voters trusted Trump over Harris on the economy by 16 points.
00:25:58.000 And after the debate, they favored Trump by 20 points.
00:26:01.000 Furthermore, if you look at the crosstabs, working-class voters before the debate favored Trump over Harris to handle the economy by 29 points, an advantage for Trump which increased slightly to 32 points after the debate.
00:26:13.000 Not exactly what the Harris campaign had in mind.
00:26:16.000 So if you want to talk about who won, you can sit here and say Trump got mad and got flustered and Kamala sounded better.
00:26:21.000 Dance all the way to November, for all I care.
00:26:24.000 Because when it comes to the economy, stupid, Trump won.
00:26:28.000 I got like, if Harris acted like she acted on that, I'm not even going to call it a debate because they weren't debating anything.
00:26:35.000 I didn't even hear them debate any ideas.
00:26:37.000 If she acted like that in the room with Xi Jinping, she'd be laughed out of that room and just totally ignored in the future.
00:26:44.000 How about this?
00:26:46.000 She goes to Ukraine to talk with Zelensky, three days later Russia invades.
00:26:50.000 Well, and I like what you're saying.
00:26:52.000 It wasn't really a debate.
00:26:52.000 It was sort of a parallel interview of both of them.
00:26:55.000 I mean, occasionally they would be asked to comment on the other one's response.
00:26:58.000 They would, you know, they would want to, but the moderators would be like, Tim, here's one question on this issue.
00:27:03.000 Now, Joel, here's a different issue that we're going to pivot to.
00:27:06.000 Daniel Turner talked about this last night.
00:27:07.000 We used to have dates, multiple debates, and they were thematic.
00:27:10.000 Economy, national security, whatever the next one was.
00:27:13.000 And this time it was sort of like, we don't know if we'll see Kamala Harris again, so we might as well try and ask them a bunch of stuff.
00:27:18.000 You're both wrong.
00:27:19.000 It was clearly a debate.
00:27:21.000 It was the Trump-Muir debate.
00:27:24.000 Muir got some good jabs in against Trump, but I think Trump countered pretty well, and also Kamala.
00:27:28.000 Trump was like- I thought that was one of your best tweets.
00:27:30.000 They are invading our country over- he said it like seven times.
00:27:35.000 I'm like, oh my god, enough already.
00:27:38.000 I get it.
00:27:38.000 Yeah, they are.
00:27:39.000 One or twice and that's it.
00:27:40.000 Sorry.
00:27:40.000 Kamala needed to make the case for herself on the debate stage.
00:27:43.000 And even more important, she needed to separate herself from Joe Biden.
00:27:46.000 Because Joe Biden was already on the path to being destroyed.
00:27:49.000 50 state loss against Donald Trump.
00:27:52.000 And I think the New York Times put out a piece where they said that undecided voters had said that Kamala wasn't able to separate herself from Biden on issues like the economy and the military.
00:28:02.000 I mean, she straight up said that she was proud.
00:28:04.000 Of the botched Afghanistan withdrawal.
00:28:07.000 She's proud of this record inflation.
00:28:09.000 And so if she wasn't able to differentiate herself from Joe Biden, I think that's the biggest loss for her.
00:28:17.000 Because people know, people lived under a Trump presidency.
00:28:20.000 They know what to expect with Donald Trump in the White House.
00:28:23.000 And I mean, we kind of know what to expect with Kamala Harris in the White House as well.
00:28:26.000 And so if you're just comparing those two, I think Trump has the upper hand.
00:28:31.000 Well, it's important to note, Harris is not Biden.
00:28:35.000 And for Trump to even intimate that she is is ridiculous.
00:28:39.000 Your vice president has no authority over what you do as the president.
00:28:42.000 They're backup.
00:28:43.000 Biden says that she's the last one in the room for all the major decisions.
00:28:45.000 But he's still making every decision.
00:28:47.000 She doesn't make any of those decisions.
00:28:48.000 three years insisting that was the Biden-Harris administration. This is one of the, I mean,
00:28:53.000 this was not true of the Obama-Biden administration. They really just called it the Obama administration.
00:28:59.000 Also true of the Trump-Pence administration. It was really just the Trump administration.
00:29:02.000 But Biden's White House has gone out of their way time and time again to make sure her name
00:29:07.000 is included on everything. And I think that is partially on her camp's insistence, but
00:29:11.000 also because Biden used her as this token hire to say, I am promoting, you know, a diverse
00:29:17.000 woman who's going to rise to the ranks and do whatever.
00:29:19.000 But that ultimately means that she asked to have responsibility for his legacy.
00:29:24.000 And on stage, she's saying, I'm not Joe Biden.
00:29:26.000 But then she will try and take credit by saying, well, we are really proud of what we were able to do this, that and the other.
00:29:32.000 She is a we when convenient.
00:29:34.000 She's tied to Biden when she thinks she can win American voters.
00:29:36.000 But when they don't like Biden, she's not a part of that at all.
00:29:39.000 That's that's disingenuous to me.
00:29:41.000 Same thing on the southern border.
00:29:42.000 They named her the Border Czar immediately.
00:29:44.000 And now that we've seen the border just totally destroyed under their administration, now all of a sudden she had no involvement in the mainstream media saying she had no involvement.
00:29:52.000 I think this is the clip.
00:29:53.000 I could be totally wrong, but I'm gonna play it anyway, so, you know, whatever.
00:29:59.000 Good evening.
00:29:59.000 I'm William Whirl.
00:30:00.000 Before we begin, we have just received word that Squiggly Miggly will not be attending tonight's debate due to the fact he blew his head off with a 3D-printed shotgun.
00:30:08.000 We want to remind the audience to please not talk out loud, to not applaud.
00:30:13.000 You're just wasting time.
00:30:14.000 Now, our first question tonight goes to Mr. Frog.
00:30:18.000 Mr. Frog, why are you so evil?
00:30:20.000 You have one second to respond.
00:30:22.000 Time's up, plus you're wrong.
00:30:24.000 The next question is for our beloved and highly intelligent president.
00:30:27.000 Why are you so amazing?
00:30:29.000 You have unlimited time to respond.
00:30:31.000 So, everybody was sharing this clip being like, this is what the debate is.
00:30:35.000 Yeah, it did feel like that at times.
00:30:37.000 I felt like the fact checks on Trump, many of which were incorrect, were so obviously Like, it was so obviously against Trump and to Kamala's benefit.
00:30:47.000 They did ask her the occasional tough questions, which a lot of times she either avoided answering or stumbled through.
00:30:52.000 But it is striking when you say the CNN moderators were better, you know, like, I mean, partially because everyone just watched Joe Biden self-destruct, but they interrupted less than the ABC moderator.
00:31:03.000 The most shocking moment of the debate was when Trump was asked if he still thought he lost 2020.
00:31:08.000 Because he said, I lost by a whisker.
00:31:11.000 And he was like, no, I was being sarcastic.
00:31:12.000 And Muir goes, well, I didn't take it that way or something like this.
00:31:15.000 And it's like, well, but but that was the moment where he like there was the facade was completely gone.
00:31:22.000 We're fact checking.
00:31:23.000 Not anymore.
00:31:23.000 You're not now you're having not now you're giving your opinion.
00:31:27.000 As a random guy that no one asked.
00:31:28.000 Yeah, they fact-checked him saying that babies could be terminated after birth.
00:31:32.000 They're like, no, they can't.
00:31:33.000 And he was like, okay.
00:31:33.000 They fact-checked that people weren't eating cats and dogs.
00:31:38.000 And that was that.
00:31:39.000 But they didn't fact-check Kamala Harris when she kept saying that he was tied to 2025, Project 2025, which he's not.
00:31:44.000 Or the Very Fine People hoax.
00:31:45.000 They didn't fact check that.
00:31:47.000 She told lie after lie.
00:31:49.000 The American, yeah, the fake news media, they think that the American people are stupid
00:31:52.000 when they try to do these fact checks against President Trump.
00:31:55.000 But Kamala told lie after lie.
00:31:56.000 She falsely said that not one member of the United States military is in an active duty
00:32:01.000 combat zone.
00:32:02.000 Not true.
00:32:03.000 Kamala Harris also said that she did not support a government takeover of health care.
00:32:07.000 She does.
00:32:08.000 She said she denied support for fracking when it was brought up in the debate.
00:32:13.000 She does as well as mandatory gun confiscation.
00:32:16.000 She said that's not true when President Trump highlighted her support for defunding the
00:32:20.000 police.
00:32:21.000 I mean, the list goes on and on.
00:32:22.000 And they didn't, of course, they're not going to bring any of this up.
00:32:25.000 That's the whole point of the debate.
00:32:25.000 But that's why she wants another one now.
00:32:27.000 I mean, it's so fascinating that before her team would not commit.
00:32:30.000 They acted like Trump asking for multiple debates was kind of rude and crazy.
00:32:34.000 And now they're like, we want another debate.
00:32:36.000 And he's being unreasonable.
00:32:37.000 I mean, it's just such like... Trump said, let's debate on Fox News.
00:32:42.000 He should definitely debate her again.
00:32:44.000 Why won't she do it?
00:32:45.000 He should debate her again and he should talk policy.
00:32:46.000 He should just ignore the banter.
00:32:48.000 I don't know if he can do that.
00:32:50.000 That's my concern.
00:32:50.000 That's why as an independent voter and like an undetermined, watching him just get defensive about his... People don't leave my rallies!
00:32:57.000 No one has ever left the Trump rally ever!
00:32:59.000 It's interesting because that obviously made a huge impression on you, but I remember that.
00:33:08.000 I also remember him talking about a lot of his issues.
00:33:11.000 I remember getting more policy from him.
00:33:13.000 He talked about the border.
00:33:15.000 He talked about gun control.
00:33:17.000 He talked about being pro-fracking.
00:33:18.000 He talked about business stuff.
00:33:20.000 She would give these platitudes like, well, I'm for an opportunity economy.
00:33:23.000 And then she would never really explain it.
00:33:25.000 And the other part is that she spent a lot of time talking about Trump.
00:33:30.000 Most of this, like if you remember, Trump was like, you, I put these tariffs in, they were good, it's going to help us on the world stage, it's good for our economy, whatever.
00:33:38.000 You guys left them in place even though you attacked me over them.
00:33:41.000 That was one of the only times the moderators were then like, yeah, do you want to explain why they're still there?
00:33:45.000 She completely ignored that, wouldn't talk about it at all.
00:33:48.000 I mean, to me, Trump has an established legacy.
00:33:51.000 He's already been president.
00:33:53.000 His campaign has had policies out for a long time.
00:33:56.000 She just released her policies.
00:33:57.000 This is her first major media moment to explain them, and she just didn't.
00:34:02.000 That's crazy to me.
00:34:04.000 So let me jump to this right here.
00:34:06.000 We have the Polly market numbers.
00:34:08.000 Kamala Harris has a 75% chance to win the election according to Polly Market, and it looks like they've got around 27 or 28 million dollars on the line right here.
00:34:20.000 Actually, I don't know.
00:34:21.000 What is this?
00:34:22.000 200 million dollars bet on popular vote winner?
00:34:23.000 Is that what that means?
00:34:25.000 I don't know.
00:34:26.000 Yeah, looks like 200 million is bet on this.
00:34:28.000 Oh, because of the no side?
00:34:29.000 Well, that seems... I don't know how this stuff works.
00:34:31.000 But I'll tell you this.
00:34:33.000 If you believe Polly Market, you can make that wager.
00:34:36.000 If you believe Nate Silver, There's free money waiting for you.
00:34:39.000 I am not telling you to make bets.
00:34:40.000 I am not giving you advice.
00:34:41.000 I'm just saying.
00:34:43.000 This is what we would refer... I mean, if Nate Silver is correct, as an individual expert using a forecasting model, and he says Trump today has a 60% chance to win, you're EV positive.
00:34:55.000 60% chance to win, 75% are, you know, four times your money.
00:35:00.000 All he's gotta do to win is look like a good guy, Trump.
00:35:03.000 He's gotta look like a good guy that doesn't get upset.
00:35:05.000 If he gets freaked out and angry, he's gonna lose.
00:35:07.000 I disagree.
00:35:08.000 He can get angry if it's for the right reason.
00:35:09.000 Maybe you're right.
00:35:10.000 Get thee behind me, Satan.
00:35:12.000 If you use anger to propel you forward, yeah, but if you're getting taunted by the person across from you, no.
00:35:16.000 That's right, but if his anger is, and he had this at the debate, I think he had a good amount, If his anger was, let's say she says, Trump's rallies, people are leaving early.
00:35:29.000 And then Trump got angrier and went, excuse me?
00:35:32.000 How dare you bring up something so inconsequential when the American people are suffering right now?
00:35:37.000 The cost of gas is through the roof.
00:35:39.000 Eggs are through the roof.
00:35:39.000 Milk is through the roof.
00:35:40.000 And you're talking about rallies?
00:35:42.000 Insults?
00:35:43.000 This is insulting.
00:35:44.000 Yeah, and then immediately offer the solutions to the people suffering.
00:35:47.000 That anger lights people up.
00:35:48.000 I also think he could have gotten angry about the fact that she's being flippant about his rallies when a Trump supporter died at one of his rallies in Pennsylvania.
00:35:55.000 I mean, she is pretending like that didn't happen, which is amazing.
00:35:59.000 And frankly, the ABC moderators let her.
00:36:01.000 He was the only one to reference the assassination attempt, which I think is a major issue.
00:36:06.000 I mean, she is protected by the Secret Service.
00:36:08.000 Doesn't she care that they failed?
00:36:10.000 Apparently not.
00:36:10.000 And that should be telling.
00:36:12.000 Do you think that, on the economy, Trump is better than Kamala?
00:36:15.000 Yeah, I don't really see any plan that she has at all.
00:36:19.000 He at least is talking about some, like, at the debate he didn't really get specific.
00:36:24.000 I want specifics.
00:36:26.000 But I've heard him talk to Elon Musk about bringing him in to fix a lot of bureaucracy, which, on that Elon Musk call, which was pretty promising.
00:36:34.000 I know he did put the tariffs on, he really stuck it to a lot of foreign countries with, he's talked a lot about NATO paying their fair share, things like that.
00:36:41.000 Are those good things?
00:36:42.000 I mean, they'll bring money in in the short term, so they look like they're at least stemming the bleeding of our economy.
00:36:48.000 But if you really want to fix the economy, you need a new fuel system.
00:36:51.000 I haven't heard him mention hydrogen fuel once.
00:36:53.000 That's it.
00:36:54.000 You're never going to get Ian to vote for you unless you bring up... No, if you're going to talk about doing the thing that we did the last 150 years and it's going to work, you're wrong.
00:37:00.000 We need something new.
00:37:02.000 The American people aren't listening for numbers and statistics and debate.
00:37:08.000 Trump dominates on the economy issue.
00:37:10.000 You go to the grocery store, you go to the gas pump, and you see that everything is expensive, and this is the worst time to be making good money in America.
00:37:18.000 And they had great times under President Trump, and that's all people need to hear.
00:37:23.000 That's all people need to remember.
00:37:24.000 I don't, maybe if it's an emotional thing, but like when he's just like, everything is horrible.
00:37:28.000 Like his, he wanted the, he wanted the, he won the coin toss.
00:37:31.000 So he wanted, I'm like, I'm going to take the last word.
00:37:33.000 His last word was everything sucks and everything's bad.
00:37:37.000 And she's horrible.
00:37:38.000 That's the energy you want to leave everybody with?
00:37:42.000 Give me a hopeful vision of the future, bro.
00:37:44.000 Incorrect.
00:37:44.000 That's why you take the last word.
00:37:45.000 His closing message, which he repeated three times... Garbage.
00:37:49.000 I'm saying that he repeated it three times because he could have clearly articulated it better, was, why isn't she doing it now?
00:37:55.000 His closing statement was not about what you're saying.
00:37:57.000 He said, she offers you this, she offers you that, it all sounds nice, but she believes in things that the American people do not.
00:38:04.000 His closing statement was about her.
00:38:06.000 It should have been about him and his vision.
00:38:07.000 No, it's about government accountability.
00:38:09.000 She's currently in the executive branch and she's saying everything is fine when American people know it's not.
00:38:13.000 She's nobody in the executive branch.
00:38:16.000 Even left-wing analysts afterwards were saying that was wrong.
00:38:18.000 She's the president of the Senate.
00:38:19.000 Are you nuts?
00:38:20.000 That's it.
00:38:20.000 Sorry, Hannah Clarke.
00:38:21.000 All the bills that are going through, she's the one stamping.
00:38:24.000 Two of them, yeah.
00:38:25.000 She's in two parts of the government!
00:38:28.000 You realize that?
00:38:28.000 You're saying she's part of the executive and the legislative branch, and she still is telling Americans that we're wrong.
00:38:34.000 She did take a tie-breaking vote, the Inflation Reduction Act, that screwed our country.
00:38:39.000 And she was the tie-breaker on it.
00:38:41.000 I'm sorry to interrupt what you were saying.
00:38:42.000 Oh, no, you're fine.
00:38:43.000 I'm just saying that like even left-wing analysts in mainstream media afterwards were saying, you know, obviously they're praising her everything that they can, but I watched three different networks talk about this and every single one was like, but when we got to closing arguments and he said why she's already there, why hasn't she done anything about it?
00:38:59.000 It's difficult to refute that point.
00:39:01.000 I mean, I think a lot of Americans and of course, you know, everyone has their perceptive.
00:39:05.000 I'm not trying to tell you that, you know, You know, obviously I respect your opinion, but I think that a lot of Americans have that question when it comes to Kamala Harris.
00:39:13.000 You can't be both the vice president and also say, well, I have nothing to do with this administration and so therefore I'm going to be a fresh face.
00:39:21.000 Fact check.
00:39:21.000 Yeah.
00:39:22.000 33 tie-breaking votes as of September of 2024.
00:39:25.000 You take the last statement in a debate.
00:39:27.000 It's not to leave a poison pill for everyone about your enemy.
00:39:30.000 It's about to give people hope about you.
00:39:32.000 That's the reason you speak last, is to get them remembering you when they walk out, remembering the things you said when they walk out, not to be thinking about her.
00:39:40.000 He has big boy politics, D!
00:39:42.000 Come on!
00:39:42.000 I mean, well, I'll concede a point to Ian.
00:39:45.000 I definitely would have liked to hear about, you know, the future in his closing remarks, but I think everything that he said, he completely nailed it on the head.
00:39:53.000 And I think that his closing statement won him the debate.
00:39:55.000 No, I think— Oh, I totally disagree.
00:39:57.000 It made me disgusted.
00:39:58.000 But Ian, you got his closing statement wrong.
00:40:00.000 You mischaracterized it.
00:40:01.000 Pull it up!
00:40:01.000 We should watch it.
00:40:02.000 It's disgusting.
00:40:02.000 It's pointless.
00:40:03.000 He just argues and complains.
00:40:05.000 I'm getting like an 80% quote.
00:40:07.000 He said, you believe in things the American people do not.
00:40:11.000 Things like stopping fracking.
00:40:14.000 And, you know, she talks about this and that thing and this thing and it sounds good, but why haven't you done it now?
00:40:20.000 That was the message that he was sending.
00:40:22.000 Now, what he needed to add to it, and I would agree with this, is he should have said... He could have been more articulate.
00:40:28.000 He could have said, Kamala Harris keeps promising all of these beautiful things.
00:40:31.000 She says she's going to do this for you, that for you.
00:40:32.000 The question is, why hasn't she already done it?
00:40:35.000 If she can, she could have, she won't.
00:40:38.000 Here's what I'll do.
00:40:39.000 I will unleash American energy.
00:40:41.000 I will produce so much energy in this country, your gasoline costs will go down, your heat will go down, your bills, they will go down, your phone bill, your health insurance will all follow suit, your groceries will go down, your wages will go up, and we start with energy.
00:40:55.000 Should have said that.
00:40:56.000 Yeah, he should have for sure ended the debate with a positive message about what he's going to do.
00:41:00.000 It was zero of that, unfortunately.
00:41:02.000 But asking for Trump to give a perfect performance does not mean that he didn't perform well.
00:41:07.000 I mean, I would have taken a 40% ending.
00:41:09.000 His closing statement was a zero.
00:41:11.000 It was a bitch fest.
00:41:11.000 Oh, I totally disagree.
00:41:13.000 I disagree so strongly.
00:41:14.000 He didn't make any statements.
00:41:15.000 He complained about the girl.
00:41:16.000 That was a terrible move.
00:41:18.000 He said, under me we'll do all kinds of stuff, but what has she been doing?
00:41:20.000 I mean, I think this is the thing.
00:41:23.000 If the objective of the debate for Trump was to stay cool, talk about the policy, like maybe he could have done better.
00:41:30.000 He did talk about some stuff.
00:41:31.000 He'd landed some funny blows on Kamala.
00:41:33.000 Kamala had a bigger burden.
00:41:34.000 She needed to define who she was.
00:41:36.000 She needed to show that she understood policy and she had a plan for the country.
00:41:41.000 She did not do that.
00:41:42.000 And that's why I like the closing statement.
00:41:43.000 I like that he was like, she's already in the White House and she's not doing anything.
00:41:47.000 If she has all of these promises, which she has failed to tell us right now, Why didn't he drain the swamp?
00:41:52.000 out. I think that is something voters are really considering when they look at Kamala Harris.
00:41:56.000 They already know Trump and he's promised optimism. He's promised hope for years and years and years.
00:42:01.000 And in this case, I think it makes sense to hold her to the fire.
00:42:04.000 Why didn't you drain the swamp? You want to talk about people not doing what they say they're
00:42:08.000 going to do. I mean, that's why he said I need more time.
00:42:11.000 There's actually an answer to why he didn't drain the swamp.
00:42:14.000 I just don't think you want to accept it.
00:42:15.000 Well, the answer is he didn't know how.
00:42:17.000 That's half the answer it is.
00:42:18.000 He brought on people that he didn't realize were bad and made a mistake.
00:42:21.000 He totally failed in that regard.
00:42:23.000 So, hold on.
00:42:24.000 Would you consider failure experience?
00:42:26.000 Yeah, sure.
00:42:27.000 Colin Harris has a lot more experience from failing.
00:42:29.000 That's a good point.
00:42:31.000 I also don't think she's going to drain the swamp, right?
00:42:34.000 She never said she was going to.
00:42:35.000 That's the thing, though.
00:42:36.000 Like, if you want someone who said, I'm going to try and do these things, versus the person who's like, I think everything in Washington is perfect the way it is, I would still want the guy who... My point is, on draining the swamp, Donald Trump brought in bad people.
00:42:50.000 And regretted it later and fired a bunch of them.
00:42:52.000 And so many people would jokingly refer to this as, he drained a lot of the swamp, but the swamp monsters were still there.
00:42:59.000 The water came down, we saw the swamp monsters, and he didn't get rid of them.
00:43:02.000 Hopefully, now that he's learned from this, the next time he will.
00:43:06.000 But voting for Kamala Harris is a guarantee that that never happens.
00:43:09.000 Well, I do agree with that, actually.
00:43:11.000 She's very tied in with the bureaucratic empire.
00:43:14.000 And I'm letting you guys know, I really want some positive change in this country, and I would really love to see someone empower our industrial base.
00:43:21.000 But I'm just calling this objectively as I saw it.
00:43:23.000 What about RFK Jr.?
00:43:24.000 I love the guy.
00:43:25.000 Would you support RFK Jr.?
00:43:27.000 I do support RFK Jr.
00:43:28.000 You do?
00:43:29.000 He said to vote for Trump.
00:43:29.000 I know.
00:43:30.000 And he said a Trump victory is an RFK victory.
00:43:32.000 He says, you vote for Trump, and we're going to make America healthy again.
00:43:37.000 I gotta tell you, bro, I understand you have a social argument, concerns about the divisive nature of where this country is, but I feel like, mathematically, you can call Trump every name in the book, but RFK Jr.
00:43:49.000 has asked for your help.
00:43:50.000 I know.
00:43:51.000 Gotta do it.
00:43:52.000 Joe, what do you think of RFK's endorsement of Trump?
00:43:55.000 I know it was a couple weeks ago.
00:43:56.000 I think it's great.
00:43:56.000 Gotta unify.
00:43:57.000 I was kind of worried about RFK remaining on the ballot to split up the vote in some way, but I mean, I think his movement and our movement align very much, and I'm glad to see we're all on the same team.
00:44:12.000 I think Ian really didn't like the presidential debate because they didn't bring up graphing enough.
00:44:15.000 They didn't bring it up at all?
00:44:16.000 They didn't bring up graphing at all.
00:44:17.000 If Donald Trump— Oh, Joel's calling you out, Ian.
00:44:20.000 If the whole coalition voters— No, no, no, listen, listen.
00:44:23.000 If the debate went exactly identically in every way, but right at the end as he's saying, why hasn't she done it?
00:44:28.000 Why hasn't she done it?
00:44:29.000 And why won't you talk about graphene?
00:44:31.000 Thank you everybody, goodbye.
00:44:32.000 Ian would be like, it was the greatest debate ever.
00:44:33.000 Donald Trump won the debate.
00:44:35.000 It would have been great if he talked about industry.
00:44:38.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously that's a bit silly if he just said the word graphene, but I mean, I would have lit up if he had, just to make that noise known by the populace.
00:44:48.000 I propose this to you, Sir Crossland.
00:44:51.000 You should continue to criticize Donald Trump in the exact way that you are and then vote for him because RFK Jr.
00:44:57.000 has made the public statement and has asked for your help, and outside of the statement, I genuinely believe RFK Jr.
00:45:05.000 is the guy.
00:45:06.000 He is, like, when we talk about seed oils, when we talk about environmental toxins, when we talk about radiation, all this garbage, him being a part of the Trump team is one of the most important things of our generation.
00:45:17.000 Yeah, there's other people, too, that are very behind.
00:45:20.000 Tulsi Gabbard!
00:45:22.000 Robert Malone, the doctor.
00:45:23.000 Oh, absolutely!
00:45:24.000 Brett Weinstein.
00:45:25.000 Like, these brilliant people that I highly respect are in support.
00:45:28.000 They're doing that rally on the 29th.
00:45:31.000 I didn't know about that.
00:45:31.000 Yeah, the Save the Republic rally?
00:45:33.000 So I'm just saying, if you don't like Trump, that's totally fine, and I understand a lot of people don't like the guy, but vote for those that are around him.
00:45:42.000 And I gotta say, like, RFK Jr.
00:45:44.000 for the most.
00:45:45.000 Because he's a liberal guy.
00:45:46.000 And he's called out the censorship, the war machine, the pharmaceutical industrial complex, and the—you know, when he talks about the environmental diseases and chronic illness, He's not pointing to, you know, a guy that we're mad at.
00:46:01.000 He's talking to a state of emergence in this country where we became negligent and allowed phthalates, PCBs, plastic, all this garbage in our surroundings, in our food, that's poisoned people, and he wants to solve that problem.
00:46:14.000 And it's one of the only times we've actually gotten a real chance at having someone come in to deal with this.
00:46:18.000 Then you gotta throw in Elon Musk's Department of Government, what is it?
00:46:22.000 Doge.
00:46:23.000 Yeah, Doge.
00:46:23.000 Department of Efficiency.
00:46:24.000 Efficiency, that's right, Doge.
00:46:26.000 It's like, be mad at Trump, get mad that he was too flustered or he got easily goaded, but the people around him is a gift.
00:46:33.000 Yeah, this is what we're at.
00:46:35.000 We're altering the world order into a new world order of some sort.
00:46:40.000 We're creating a new world order, and we gotta talk.
00:46:41.000 I feel like we could do an entire episode on how we can craft a better world order than what we've got that's better than bricks.
00:46:47.000 Because if we don't, BRICS is going to take over.
00:46:50.000 I agree.
00:46:51.000 I think Trump's coalition right now is one of the most epic things you could have ever asked for.
00:46:58.000 Talk about coalitions.
00:46:59.000 If Joe Biden can put on a MAGA hat, I think Ian can too.
00:47:03.000 I'll get you that MAGA hat.
00:47:04.000 He's campaigning for Trump.
00:47:05.000 He kept the hat!
00:47:06.000 He did keep it.
00:47:07.000 I think he can't stand his V.P.
00:47:10.000 or something.
00:47:11.000 So check it out.
00:47:11.000 There's speculation that... So he releases a letter on Twitter that he's dropping out.
00:47:17.000 Let's dedicate some time to this.
00:47:19.000 Okay.
00:47:20.000 So Joe Biden wears a Trump hat, keeps the Trump hat, and the White House says it's because he's trying to show unity or build unity.
00:47:31.000 But there's some speculation, and I think it's wishful thinking, but speculation.
00:47:35.000 So when Joe Biden drops out of the race initially, it was through a Twitter letter.
00:47:40.000 And the conspiracy theory was Biden did not release that letter.
00:47:44.000 He had been saying the whole time up to that point, I will not drop out no matter what.
00:47:49.000 Then all of a sudden, without a video or a public statement, a letter appears.
00:47:53.000 The conspiracy theory was that staffers Uploaded that to his account without his permission or knowledge to force him, because now you can't go back.
00:48:00.000 What are you going to do?
00:48:01.000 Come out and claim that Kamala or the Obamas secretly did this?
00:48:04.000 Nope.
00:48:05.000 You're out.
00:48:06.000 It was a coup.
00:48:07.000 And he went on to say later that he was upset about it.
00:48:09.000 He didn't want to drop out.
00:48:10.000 He thought he could win.
00:48:12.000 There's speculation now that he put the Trump hat on because he's out.
00:48:17.000 He knows he's out.
00:48:18.000 He has no reason to benefit any of these people.
00:48:20.000 He's been on the beach now.
00:48:21.000 For how long?
00:48:23.000 People keep posting these photos of him on vacation and they're like, this guy's checked out.
00:48:27.000 He's no longer president.
00:48:28.000 He is, but he's just basically in his mind saying, you pushed me out.
00:48:32.000 You shut me down.
00:48:33.000 I just don't care anymore.
00:48:34.000 Right.
00:48:34.000 He must feel a certain level of betrayal from the Democrats and these Democrats that he has considered his friends and allies for years.
00:48:42.000 I mean, I was listening to a New York Times analyst talk about this afterwards, and she said that There was actually it was a New York Times interview with a senior executive for the DNC.
00:48:56.000 And she said that she saw Biden's letter go out on July 21st.
00:49:01.000 And she was like, oh, my goodness, it's happening.
00:49:03.000 And then there was like a hour, 30 minute delay before he released a statement endorsing Kamala.
00:49:09.000 And she said, During that time, she was actually kind of nervous because
00:49:12.000 it was like, he hasn't endorsed Kamala.
00:49:15.000 This is throwing us into chaos.
00:49:16.000 And, you know, I could understand where if the drafted letter was written by someone who didn't have authority and
00:49:22.000 they kind of forced his hand by releasing it, why there would be a delay and then a separate endorsement of Kamala.
00:49:28.000 Why? Because it could have all been one statement.
00:49:30.000 Well, there is a known history of the Bidens hating Kamala Harris going back to the 2020 elections when Kamala first
00:49:40.000 went for the jugular at Joe Biden on the debate stage, pretty much calling him a racist.
00:49:45.000 She did!
00:49:46.000 And I think I remember reading after that how Jill after that Jill Biden just totally was on the warpath against Kamala Harris.
00:49:54.000 And these are the top politicians in the country.
00:49:57.000 There is no optic that will go unnoticed or unthought about.
00:50:01.000 So Joe Biden putting on a MAGA hat is a significant stab to Kamala Harris.
00:50:07.000 It really is.
00:50:08.000 Charlemagne the God called him the donkey of the day for doing it.
00:50:11.000 Democrats were pissed off about it.
00:50:13.000 They scrambled to try and claim that was no big deal.
00:50:15.000 It's no big deal.
00:50:16.000 It's just unity.
00:50:17.000 No, I think I think that was a screw you.
00:50:20.000 Yeah, I wouldn't call it an endorsement.
00:50:22.000 I think it was a, I'm done.
00:50:25.000 I'm done with this.
00:50:25.000 Could you imagine some people are tweeting, and I know it's wishful thinking, the October surprise is actually Biden coming out saying vote Trump.
00:50:32.000 That'd be hilarious.
00:50:34.000 Or if he withdraws his endorsement from calling.
00:50:36.000 Then they might say that he hasn't.
00:50:37.000 What if he's like, you know, I've been thinking.
00:50:40.000 Biden's too old.
00:50:42.000 Wouldn't that be funny, though, if they're like, actually, he's senile and we must remove him right now?
00:50:45.000 Yeah, yeah, 25th Amendment right now.
00:50:46.000 But what if he just, like, says, actually, I've been thinking about it, you know, this process wasn't right, you know, she didn't win the primary.
00:50:52.000 I can't, in good faith, continue to endorse Kamala Harris, who otherwise is a lovely lady, I'm sure.
00:50:58.000 You know, what if he just sort of turns tides and starts just not being pro-Trump but being subtly anti-Kamala?
00:51:04.000 It'd be funny if he comes out.
00:51:06.000 And he just says, if you take a look at my political positions from the 90s, you know, some 30 some odd years ago into the 80s, I mean, we're going almost 40 years ago.
00:51:17.000 I kind of agree with Donald Trump on most of these things.
00:51:20.000 The only reason Joe Biden, like Joe Biden's politics now are what he's being told to say.
00:51:24.000 All this progressive stuff.
00:51:25.000 Yeah.
00:51:26.000 Now, if you go, you go look at Joe Biden when he was, when he was half this age or whatever, there's no, he should be endorsing Trump.
00:51:33.000 He's hardcore.
00:51:33.000 He was hardcore in the nineties.
00:51:35.000 Like he was real anti-drugs.
00:51:37.000 I mean, he signed that drug law, the kind of dumb drug law, the 92, I think it was or something.
00:51:43.000 94.
00:51:44.000 Is it, is it common, Joel, for staffers to control candidates' Twitter accounts?
00:51:50.000 Tell us, Mr. comms guy.
00:51:51.000 I mean, it depends on the dynamic of your, um, just how you have your, um, communications strategy set up.
00:51:59.000 I know when I was on the Gates team, um, I managed his, I primarily managed his, um, official at Rep Matt Gates account.
00:52:07.000 That was where we put all of our, you know, congressional news out.
00:52:11.000 Um, the at Matt Gates, at Matt Gates account that he controls, he totally controls it.
00:52:15.000 I don't, I don't have any passwords or anything.
00:52:18.000 everything you see from that account is him. Same goes with Lauren Bovert. I primarily am
00:52:23.000 controlling the at-rep Bovert account, which is, you know, where we push out that news,
00:52:27.000 and she controls her own account. It could be different for other people.
00:52:30.000 I think it should be federally mandated that it says on the account if it's controlled by
00:52:35.000 staffers, firstly, so that you can't run a coup against the candidate.
00:52:38.000 Some of them do say that in the bio.
00:52:40.000 Some of them will say, like, this is... Yeah, some of them do have a... I forget who has this.
00:52:44.000 I think Chip Roy has, like, a Chip Roy Press Office title.
00:52:49.000 I think it'd be helpful to know that some staff are putting out... But ultimately, when, you know, if a congressman is signing off on a tweet, that's, you know, that's their voice, too.
00:52:57.000 Yeah, but Ian's right.
00:52:58.000 It should be a law that any material representation must be... Like, if the account is run by multiple people, then You should not be able to, as a politician, say that it's you when it's someone else.
00:53:11.000 Especially like what we're looking at with Biden.
00:53:13.000 If that truly is the administrative state was in there, and I'm just saying his staffers might have been contacted by like deep, deep, deep state, been like, you're going to be putting this stuff out now and Biden's no longer with us anymore.
00:53:23.000 And they're like, okay, we're going to do what we're told because that's why we're here.
00:53:27.000 We're learning and we're with you.
00:53:29.000 Who knows?
00:53:29.000 But I don't want someone to run a social media coup on my candidate, basically.
00:53:33.000 So I need to know that someone else has access to that account.
00:53:36.000 That's the point.
00:53:37.000 And I think that's what they did, is they ran a social media coup on Biden.
00:53:40.000 I don't know, I can't prove it, because I can't tell if he controlled that account or someone else did, but the stuff that was coming out of that did not sound like the words coming out of his mouth.
00:53:47.000 Oh, I don't think he runs his accounts at all.
00:53:49.000 Trump 100% runs his accounts.
00:53:49.000 Trump doesn't run his accounts at all.
00:53:50.000 I mean, Trump 100% runs his accounts.
00:53:55.000 I think it would be even difficult to replicate like his random capitalization.
00:53:58.000 Like he is making it so that he is a unique voice only on his platform.
00:54:03.000 But that was not the case with Biden at all.
00:54:05.000 I think there was even a case where Corinne Jean-Pierre clearly tweeted something she meant to be from her account that was actually delivered from the Biden account.
00:54:14.000 The day and age of social media is fascinating and it is also interesting to sort of contrast the presidency with especially Congress because there are so many young people coming up who are aware of how influential social media can be.
00:54:26.000 I mean this is one of AOC's big wins that she established a voice on social media that people really felt resonated with who she was.
00:54:32.000 I think other staffers are able to do this but not all of them have have the same tenacity for it.
00:54:39.000 It would be great if there were visible short-term consequences to being stupid and being wrong.
00:54:45.000 So, you know, Corinne Jean-Pierre says insane things every day, and I don't even know why anyone bothers to pay attention.
00:54:49.000 And then you get poor Doocy over there asking real questions, and then she just gives a nonsense answer, and all the other corporate press just clap.
00:54:55.000 And I'm like, in governance, the problem is someone will propose a policy, and we don't know what the ramifications are going to be.
00:55:01.000 Just sounds right.
00:55:03.000 If there was a way to actually run a simulation before doing it, That would be great.
00:55:08.000 And then I started thinking, like, what if that's the real purpose of the simulation that we're in?
00:55:11.000 It's one of the most inconsequential things ever.
00:55:14.000 It's a session of Congress, and they're like, I've got a bill proposing a tax on imported cheeses from Europe.
00:55:20.000 Well, we need to see what it's going to do before we vote yes on it.
00:55:23.000 So the entire universal span of our existence right now is actually just a three-minute AI button press in Congress, where they're trying to see what happens with this one particular tariff.
00:55:31.000 I've actually thought that when your body dies, that you get to Time speeds up and you get to see the rest of reality play out as if it it was Programmed by your behavior up to that point so like depending on what you do in your life You're gonna see the result of it play out really quickly afterwards, and you think oh well that I didn't like how all that turned out I'm gonna try that again kind of thing
00:55:54.000 I don't know if you retry it or not.
00:55:56.000 Sort of like you are the supercomputer witnessing your own program.
00:55:59.000 I don't know if I trust the AI that much.
00:56:02.000 We should have AI.
00:56:03.000 Altman's AI or Elon's AI?
00:56:04.000 I'm just saying the issue with Congress is they say, hey, we want to ban this thing, and they don't actually know what that's going to do.
00:56:11.000 So perverse incentives is the best example of these mistakes that government often make.
00:56:16.000 Shout out to Chris Rufo, who offered five grand for evidence of people eating cats in Springfield, Ohio, to which I pointed out, All that's gonna happen is some Haitian dude's gonna be like, dude, quick, get a cat.
00:56:25.000 We're gonna get five grand.
00:56:27.000 Like they don't care about the news.
00:56:28.000 You're a good point.
00:56:29.000 You make a good point about AI and a useful function for AI would be to run simulations on outcomes of policy, like super computations and stuff like that on quantum computers.
00:56:40.000 That'd be great to be able to watch like 7000 potential outcomes of one vote.
00:56:44.000 Or if members of Congress could just read the bill.
00:56:47.000 What a crazy concept!
00:56:48.000 Or not be paid by taking lobbyist money to make decisions on their behalf.
00:56:53.000 Or they weren't allowed to sneak unrelated additions into any bill.
00:56:57.000 Yeah, let the bills be single subject bills and pertain to the actual germanity of what they're talking about.
00:57:04.000 Did you guys ever, with the Gates office, did you, I don't want, you can't speak for Matt, obviously, but did you guys ever, like, regret pushing McCarthy out?
00:57:10.000 Absolutely not.
00:57:12.000 Absolutely not.
00:57:13.000 No, he was a liar.
00:57:16.000 There was nothing that could be trusted out of his mouth because he was owned by the special interests and the lobbyists.
00:57:23.000 And he had repeatedly made these promises that were broken and we weren't going to tolerate it if we had something to do about it.
00:57:31.000 Was it where his hands tied and he just had no, he's like a cog in a machine of, and it's like, you're in that position now, you're going to do what you're told kind of thing?
00:57:37.000 McCarthy?
00:57:38.000 Yeah.
00:57:38.000 And the new guy.
00:57:39.000 What's the new guy, Mike Johnson?
00:57:41.000 Well, I think if you're in government, you have a responsibility to do what you said you were going to do when you got elected.
00:57:47.000 And I don't remember him going up on a campaign stage and said, I'm going to do the bidding of the lobbyists from now until forever.
00:57:53.000 Wouldn't it be funny if he had, though?
00:57:54.000 He was just like, I'm here for the lobbyists.
00:57:57.000 What was the fallout afterwards?
00:57:58.000 I mean, you know, Were you guys, were the congressmen who really pushed against the speaker ostracized in any way?
00:58:09.000 Did you see that the movement had some support?
00:58:12.000 I mean, they were calling for Gates to be kicked out of the Republican Party.
00:58:17.000 Some even throwing- But that's obviously died away.
00:58:20.000 I mean, like today as it stands- But like immediately after we kicked him out, I mean, lots of people were calling for him to even be expelled.
00:58:27.000 Matt Gaetz.
00:58:28.000 Yeah.
00:58:29.000 I mean, he wasn't so what were the consequences today?
00:58:31.000 Like there is a new speaker now.
00:58:32.000 Do they do this?
00:58:33.000 Is this something that comes up a lot?
00:58:34.000 Are people unwilling to work with certain congressmen because of this tie to trying
00:58:38.000 to oust the last speaker?
00:58:39.000 No, I think it's kind of exposed this wizard of Oz mentality that these past speakers have
00:58:49.000 been going through.
00:58:50.000 You know, like Paul Ryan had no heart.
00:58:52.000 Then you got Kevin McCarthy who has no brain and now we have Mike Johnson who has no courage.
00:58:59.000 And it is frustrating to when you don't have the votes to get a genuine person who will
00:59:08.000 be a change agent in those positions to just have.
00:59:12.000 You know, someone who kind of turns out to just be another disappointment.
00:59:14.000 But, you know, at the end of the day, we were facing an option between keeping this, you know, lobbyist puppet in office and not fighting our battles, or we could try something new.
00:59:27.000 And we decided to try something new because we told our constituents that we were going to be fighting for the promises that We had told them that we got from the January fight, which were single subject spending bills and a lot more.
00:59:43.000 And they didn't live up to that.
00:59:44.000 And they thought that they could, you know, push us around and, you know, keep pushing the deadline for, or I'm sorry, keep moving the goalposts for things that needed to be done up until, you know, the end of the year when they should have been working on it all year.
01:00:01.000 And, you know, we weren't going to have it.
01:00:03.000 So.
01:00:03.000 You mentioned before the show about the continuing resolution bill that had the, there was something attached about that Massey was talking about.
01:00:10.000 What was that?
01:00:11.000 Yeah, there's a bill called the SAVE Act that was attached to the CR, or was supposed to be attached to the CR, which actually was passed a few months ago.
01:00:19.000 I think over 221 members of Congress voted in favor of it, including, I think, five Democrats.
01:00:27.000 I might be wrong on that, but there were definitely Democrats who joined in on the bill.
01:00:33.000 And that was kind of like the shiny object for people to vote for the CR.
01:00:38.000 And the SAVE Act's good, but it wasn't going to be implemented in time for November.
01:00:45.000 And like President Trump said on True Social, if there weren't absolute assurances that
01:00:50.000 we were going to get election security, you should vote no on it.
01:00:53.000 And we, you know, it looked like eventually both sides said that they weren't going to vote for it.
01:01:03.000 Let's jump to this next story.
01:01:04.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it was an effort to insult Donald Trump.
01:01:08.000 Instead, it turned into a based meme.
01:01:10.000 You guys ready for this one?
01:01:11.000 Oh, yeah, here we go.
01:01:13.000 In Springfield, they're eating the dogs.
01:01:16.000 The people that came in, they're eating the cats.
01:01:21.000 They're eating the pets of the people that live there.
01:01:24.000 And this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame.
01:01:31.000 They're eating the dogs.
01:01:49.000 They're eating the dogs.
01:02:04.000 I think we made our point with this.
01:02:06.000 Red-Headed Libertarian says, the guy who originally mixed is having a meltdown because it's not pro-Trump and he's literally a socialist.
01:02:13.000 Well, it's our song now, comrade.
01:02:16.000 And so this guy, he changed his name to Benny Johnson Can Eat-ish.
01:02:21.000 And he says, I updated my display name.
01:02:23.000 It's stuck like this now and it won't let me change it back.
01:02:26.000 WTF.
01:02:27.000 If you're reading this, F Trump, I'm literally a socialist.
01:02:29.000 This is not a pro-Trump song.
01:02:31.000 And he locked his account.
01:02:33.000 Megaphonics music.
01:02:34.000 I gotta say, dude, you are super talented.
01:02:36.000 Regardless of all that, you're great.
01:02:38.000 Embrace it!
01:02:39.000 They don't get it!
01:02:41.000 They don't understand, like... It's funny!
01:02:48.000 I don't understand why they think this is supposed to be like, haha, look, we're making fun of Trump.
01:02:52.000 They fundamentally do not understand Trump or his supporters.
01:02:56.000 I know.
01:02:56.000 I was thinking this.
01:02:57.000 I was trying to find out a good way to put it in writing.
01:02:59.000 I figured I'd just say it on the show.
01:03:00.000 If you make fun of me, but you do it in a really great way, I'm going to love you.
01:03:05.000 If you do it in a really terrible way, you're forgotten.
01:03:08.000 That's it.
01:03:08.000 This guy did it in a great way and everyone loves him for it.
01:03:11.000 That's all.
01:03:11.000 Yeah, but it's Trump supporters who like it.
01:03:13.000 He doesn't like Trump.
01:03:14.000 Because they see reality.
01:03:16.000 Not all Trump supporters see reality, but a lot of the reason people are supporting Trump is because he was redpilling the world in real time in like 2016 and 17, talking about the administrative state and stuff.
01:03:25.000 What these midwits don't understand is that your run-of-the-mill average person collects information peripherally.
01:03:33.000 This means that with a song like this going viral, this post on Reddit Libertarian's Axe account has nearly a million views.
01:03:42.000 No one's going to run a fact check on this!
01:03:44.000 There's going to be some random guy hanging out with his buddies, and someone's going to play it, and he's going to hear in the background while he's watching a football game, they're eating the dogs!
01:03:52.000 Whoa!
01:03:52.000 They're eating the dogs!
01:03:53.000 And then he's going to be like, later on he's going to be like, I heard that they were eating dogs.
01:03:57.000 That's it.
01:03:58.000 And people are going to be like, yeah, I heard the same thing.
01:03:59.000 What's this Trump eating the dogs and then people will look into it?
01:04:02.000 Well, that's also a win of Trump's from the debate.
01:04:06.000 Like he was driving the narrative and continues to drive the narrative after the debate because, you know, some of the commentary world, the news pundits are talking about, you know, the minor details of who won the debate.
01:04:21.000 Regular folks that I talk to, they're talking about psycho migrants eating dogs in Springfield.
01:04:25.000 They're talking about illegal gang, illegal Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment complexes in parts of Aurora, Colorado.
01:04:32.000 So, you know.
01:04:33.000 Definitely drove more attention to Springfield, Ohio.
01:04:36.000 I think the news media was just about ready to smother that one.
01:04:39.000 And now, you know, at least I know a number of reporters who have been like, I'm headed there immediately, which for better or worse in the town.
01:04:46.000 But, you know, It makes it so this is a conversation of like, that's a crazy thing for Trump to say, but why would he say it?
01:04:52.000 And I think the impact of crime by illegal immigrants in this country is actually undeniable and a concern for a lot of Americans.
01:04:59.000 This doesn't even make Hassan look bad, right?
01:05:03.000 No most watchable Hassan clip.
01:05:05.000 Right.
01:05:06.000 Somebody who doesn't know politics just sees a dude cheering.
01:05:11.000 I could send this clip to someone and say, look how excited Hassan was that Trump brought up this serious problem in Springfield, Ohio.
01:05:17.000 And he's going, yo!
01:05:19.000 And you could argue that that was complimentary, that he's cheering Trump on.
01:05:23.000 I just read this from ABC News that Ohio is sending troopers and $2.5 million to Springfield.
01:05:29.000 The governor was on Fox News today being like, there are very serious problems.
01:05:32.000 And he said, well, I think he was deferential on the pets thing, but he said they can't drive cars.
01:05:38.000 The driving laws in Haiti are way different, and so these people come here, there's 15,000 of them, and the law says if you're 18 you can get a driver's license, but they don't know how to drive and they're crashing their cars.
01:05:50.000 Dude, the problems are massive!
01:05:52.000 And the media's going, like, I gotta point this out, he put Pepe in it too!
01:05:56.000 What did you think was gonna happen?
01:05:58.000 A dancing frog, dude, come on.
01:06:00.000 There's a couple of them!
01:06:01.000 And anyway, the governor's like, We've got to send in all the troopers and this money because these problems.
01:06:07.000 The crazy thing to me is that when Trump says they're eating the dogs, the media just says, well, we asked a bureaucrat.
01:06:12.000 He denies this.
01:06:13.000 And they don't even look into the city at all, which is which is laden with crisis.
01:06:19.000 I'm still wondering what's happening in Springfield.
01:06:22.000 What's happening in Springfield?
01:06:23.000 Sounds like a Simpsons episode.
01:06:24.000 They're eating the dogs.
01:06:25.000 There's a video of a woman crying, saying that she found a decapitated dog.
01:06:29.000 We don't know where these people are from.
01:06:31.000 She's crying, being like, y'all are making fun of it, you're making jokes about it, and we're suffering, we're scared.
01:06:36.000 There's a bunch of videos of locals being like, I've seen it, they're rounding up cats.
01:06:39.000 And the biggest thing is, like, 15,000 Haitian migrants have arrived in Springfield pretty rapidly.
01:06:45.000 Springfield is, what, less than 55,000 people, so it's a big boost on their population in, I think, about three years.
01:06:53.000 They have temporary protected status under the Biden administration.
01:06:56.000 There are local resources now being diverted to support them, like there's a Haiti community center that's specifically to help the refugees which, you know, I don't know if they are technically refugees or what their claim was when they arrived, but it's causing this relationship with the town where the people are struggling and I do not think the the claim that all immigrants assimilate apply here.
01:07:22.000 It seems like there is a divide between this growing population of people who come from a different culture And who are maybe not aware or abiding by all of the laws of the area and then the locals who feel as though this is not something that benefits them.
01:07:36.000 I mean, DeWine, the governor of Ohio, just asked for additional support from the federal government because of this result.
01:07:43.000 You know, I know the idea that like we would say, oh, they're eating the dogs freaks people out.
01:07:48.000 It's the flashiest way to do it.
01:07:49.000 But in some ways, I'm glad that's how Trump put it because I don't think you can just say that immigration has no effect or only has a positive effect on America.
01:07:57.000 It can have a negative effect when there's no cultural assimilation and there's no real investment in the nation.
01:08:03.000 If you're a population living somewhere but lawlessly, that's not great.
01:08:08.000 Yeah, and you also have residents who are going to town meetings on camera voicing that they've seen firsthand these migrants taking geese out of ponds, seeing people's pets going missing, and then there's a weird barbecue happening in the alley.
01:08:25.000 So you have people that are just totally not connected to politics now coming to their representatives and saying, what the hell's going on?
01:08:32.000 And the people have amnesty?
01:08:34.000 All the immigrants that are doing this are like, They have temporary protected status.
01:08:37.000 They're allowed to be here.
01:08:38.000 So they're not illegal.
01:08:40.000 On the other hand, I don't think that's exactly the immigration system we want for the president to say, well, these people now are granted an ability to stay here.
01:08:49.000 This is small town Ohio.
01:08:51.000 I'm from a town of 50,000 people in Ohio.
01:08:53.000 This is like exactly where I grew up or Cuyahoga Falls 25 years ago.
01:08:58.000 Springfield is just outside of Dayton.
01:08:59.000 OK, so it's West, Northwest Ohio.
01:09:01.000 I grew up in Cuyahoga Falls, 45,000 people.
01:09:05.000 It was the exact same size, apparently, as Springfield.
01:09:07.000 I don't know, a square kilometer or whatever.
01:09:10.000 But importing 15,000 people from another country that have a different culture?
01:09:16.000 In like three years.
01:09:18.000 That would have completely disrupted our city.
01:09:22.000 No one was eating your pets under President Trump, Ian.
01:09:26.000 Just walking around.
01:09:27.000 I could go to the park, leave our back door open, ride my bike alone at 10 o'clock, 9 o'clock at night.
01:09:33.000 If there were dudes walking around from a foreign country that didn't speak my language, it would have changed everything.
01:09:38.000 Crashing cars, too.
01:09:40.000 So even if we want to say, fine, I don't care, drop the dog thing, the governor is talking about this, the locals are talking about this, they don't know how to drive cars.
01:09:48.000 But he says they don't have driver education, so there's crazy videos of them crashing because they just don't know how to drive.
01:09:56.000 Man, it's hard, I think, for people outside of it to visualize how that can change a society when a fourth of your people don't speak the language or are from outside of the country.
01:10:07.000 Not that they all don't speak the language, but within a three-year period how Yeah, a lot of the residents are talking about the wait times at hospitals and for medical services.
01:10:18.000 I mean, separate from the more like spicy headline making topics, it's a very difficult thing to drop on a small town in America that might be already struggling economically.
01:10:29.000 And that's what the Biden administration did because they do not care about middle America.
01:10:33.000 He said, I'm going to grant them status, and that's it.
01:10:35.000 You guys have to deal with it.
01:10:36.000 And the town, I assume, did the best they could.
01:10:37.000 But it's not as easy as just saying, well, you live here now, and so everything is fine.
01:10:41.000 It's sort of the opposite of that.
01:10:46.000 I'm thinking about them driving and crashing.
01:10:48.000 No, he's thinking about voting for Trump.
01:10:50.000 What's the traffic?
01:10:51.000 Yeah, did you hear him talk about deportation?
01:10:53.000 I wish they went deeper on that in the debate.
01:10:55.000 A little bit, he said, local police.
01:10:57.000 But once again, I agree with you that Kamala goaded Trump and Trump started getting too involved in these, like, talking about the election was a mistake.
01:11:05.000 He did correct that and said it's old news.
01:11:07.000 That was good.
01:11:08.000 That was a good move.
01:11:09.000 But he did roast a little too long on it.
01:11:12.000 Yeah, he had a great opportunity.
01:11:14.000 I think he missed a great opportunity, but it was Kamala's.
01:11:19.000 Kamala needed the opportunity.
01:11:20.000 Trump didn't.
01:11:21.000 And Kamala did not bring it home.
01:11:23.000 I think she's talking to people in this instance about immigration and deportation.
01:11:27.000 She seems to be talking to people that don't understand what's happening, or they're just hearing about it in the news.
01:11:32.000 And he's talking to the people that are directly being impacted or involved with people in their neighborhood that are creating gangs or New weird, not weird, but new cultures of like strange, you call it whatever, weird, strange, just different cultures.
01:11:49.000 It's a bigger deal than it seems.
01:11:52.000 Especially for little kids, man.
01:11:54.000 I mean, people are posting videos from Haiti where they're eating cats.
01:11:58.000 And these are all over the internet.
01:12:00.000 And so the assumption is, I'll tell you this, how are you supposed to find evidence that they're eating cats?
01:12:06.000 They ate the cat.
01:12:08.000 Like, what is the evidence?
01:12:09.000 Did you find a cat skeleton buried somewhere, I guess?
01:12:11.000 Maybe?
01:12:11.000 I don't know.
01:12:12.000 It's in the garbage.
01:12:12.000 They threw it in the garbage.
01:12:13.000 The garbage is taken out.
01:12:14.000 So I don't know what these people are going to expect to find.
01:12:17.000 We know that there are videos out of Haiti where they eat cats.
01:12:20.000 You put 15,000 Haitians in this town, it seems like it may, it's reasonable to assume it may have happened, I don't know.
01:12:27.000 Is it just a common food there?
01:12:28.000 They eat them like we eat pigs kind of thing?
01:12:30.000 It depends on what you read, but if you Google search and you set the time frame for only before August, you'll see a lot of stories about how it's a rarity.
01:12:40.000 It's like a traditional thing.
01:12:43.000 Some people do it because they're desperate, but usually it's not the reason.
01:12:46.000 It's like they might cook a cat for a holiday.
01:12:49.000 I don't know how much of that's true, though.
01:12:50.000 But before the controversy, you can find tons of stories about Haitians eating cats.
01:12:55.000 Man, in the United States, it's like taboo to eat dogs and cats.
01:12:58.000 You just don't do it here.
01:12:58.000 Yeah, because they're our friends.
01:13:00.000 Well, the thing is, there are reports that they're stealing pets of people in these towns.
01:13:05.000 But here's what I would say.
01:13:07.000 I think that's where it gets confusing to people, and it sounds crazy, right?
01:13:13.000 Cats are let outside.
01:13:14.000 You have a cat, you open the door, the cat goes off.
01:13:17.000 So what if, here's the reasonable assumption, if Haitians do eat cats, you know, from Haiti, not like somebody who's born in America and is Haitian, okay?
01:13:25.000 There's a woman who made a video where she says she's Haitian, but she's from America, and she's like, her dad, like, talked about this stuff.
01:13:31.000 It's crazy.
01:13:33.000 So let's say there's a cat walking on the street.
01:13:36.000 They walk up to it, they catch it, and they snap its neck, and they go, hey, we got a cat, and they eat it.
01:13:41.000 That was someone's pet.
01:13:42.000 They didn't go and steal it from someone's house, it was a cat walking around the neighborhood that they just thought was an animal, a wild animal.
01:13:47.000 So when we see complaints from locals about ducks and geese being taken, there's a video, there's a photo, it's not from Ohio, but it's a guy carrying a goose, we don't know exactly what the context is, but if it is reasonable to assume that they do take ducks and geese, And what's the difference of them grabbing a cat off the street?
01:14:03.000 Or not even a street, like a tree.
01:14:05.000 They're walking through the park and they see a duck and they see a cat and they're like, here you go, meat.
01:14:09.000 I think if you've got people who group in a society where they hunt for food and they eat whatever food they can get, or they have different traditions, I don't understand why the media wants to play this.
01:14:19.000 Well, I do get it.
01:14:20.000 They're lying because they're trying to cover things up.
01:14:22.000 But it's silly.
01:14:23.000 It is not unreasonable to say a foreign culture that Has reports of eating cats, comes to the United States and doesn't understand our norms, our laws, whatever, eats cats.
01:14:32.000 Yeah, in three years without, I mean, indoctrination takes decades to learn, to really, it's not like they come here and start watching the news and start to immediately all learn everything about American culture.
01:14:44.000 You get here and you're like, where's Little Haiti?
01:14:45.000 I need to go hang out with people that speak my language.
01:14:47.000 Let's get started.
01:14:49.000 The governor of Ohio said this.
01:14:50.000 They first bring in Haitians, and then when other Haitians come, they say, I want to go where I fit in, and so they move to this area.
01:14:57.000 That is a problem, and it inhibits assimilation, and it makes the lives of the migrants worse off.
01:15:04.000 But let's jump to this next story.
01:15:05.000 This is a big one.
01:15:07.000 The Telegraph says, the conservative Michael Moore taking on the crazy diversity industry I'd like to give a shout-out to Matt Walsh.
01:15:15.000 He is doing the Lord's work.
01:15:16.000 I'd like to give a shout-out to the Daily Wire crew and everyone who worked on What Is A Woman as well as Am I Racist?
01:15:21.000 It is some of the greatest and most important activism, some of the most effective and brilliant activism, and Matt Walsh deserves some kind of like...
01:15:30.000 I don't know, independent media Emmy equivalent or whatever.
01:15:33.000 Check this out.
01:15:34.000 Riley Gaines says, several interviewees from Matt Walsh's new film, Amiracist, have deactivated their ex accounts since the trailer went public.
01:15:42.000 As always, sunlight is the best disinfectant.
01:15:44.000 And he says, folks, you're welcome.
01:15:47.000 But now we have a statement from Robin D'Angelo.
01:15:50.000 PhD.
01:15:50.000 PhD.
01:15:52.000 She basically wastes time explaining what happened.
01:15:54.000 We don't need to hear it.
01:15:56.000 But here's where it gets interesting.
01:15:58.000 It seems like she may be lining up a fraud claim.
01:16:02.000 And I noticed this right away reading her statement.
01:16:05.000 She makes reference to receiving money, $15,000, to participate in a film called Shades of Justice about efforts to address racism in the United States.
01:16:14.000 They plan to interview anti-racist activists, authors, and thought leaders in service of supporting the cause of racial equity.
01:16:20.000 They offered between $10,000 and $20,000 for an interview.
01:16:22.000 I said, let's meet in the middle with $15,000 and agreed to participate.
01:16:26.000 When she arrived, she says a few things felt off.
01:16:28.000 The group did not make eye contact with me, and the interviewer who was introduced as Matt appeared to be wearing an ill-fitting wig.
01:16:34.000 Matt presented himself as someone new to anti-racist work and seemed earnest, and his questions did not come across as adversarial.
01:16:41.000 By the end, however, things got weird.
01:16:43.000 She basically goes on to explain the scene that everybody's seen already, where she pays reparations to the black producer, Ben.
01:16:48.000 She tries to make it seem like Ben is a victim when the producer of the film is clearly in on it with Matt.
01:16:53.000 Here's where it gets interesting, though.
01:16:54.000 She does go on to criticize Matt, but she brings up how it was misrepresented, it was a different film, and I wonder if she's trying to present some kind of fraud claim.
01:17:04.000 Now, so I've had some conversations behind the scenes asking some friends of mine who are lawyers what they thought.
01:17:11.000 None of this is by means of legal expertise or anything, just some... I'm curious, and I want to say something I want to opine on.
01:17:20.000 When you get those Borat-style mockumentaries, my understanding is he doesn't pay anybody, but I don't know for sure.
01:17:26.000 My understanding was that he just goes and says, oh, we're filming a video about this wacky guy who moves to America.
01:17:30.000 You want to be in it?
01:17:31.000 General release, and we'll film you.
01:17:34.000 What Robin is claiming is that it was a different film name, and they materially misrepresented what was being requested from her, and the reason why they were giving her money.
01:17:48.000 So I'll phrase this another way.
01:17:51.000 Imagine you were offered a role in a movie and they said, Ian, we want you to be in a commercial for the Super Bowl where you are going to, I don't know, cut your nose hair or something using someone's scissors or something like this.
01:18:08.000 Let's say you agree to be in that commercial.
01:18:10.000 You film a bunch of different scenes.
01:18:12.000 They pay you money.
01:18:13.000 And in the commercial that airs says that you have AIDS.
01:18:18.000 You have HIV, and it shows you sitting in a chair, and it's playing sad music.
01:18:22.000 This actually happened once.
01:18:23.000 There was a woman, and she was a model.
01:18:25.000 This is a famous story.
01:18:27.000 And they asked her to take a picture, and what she didn't know was that They ran it as an advertisement where it was her and her husband, and they were little kids who were disgustingly ugly, and they were advertising plastic surgery.
01:18:41.000 Basically using her image without her knowing to make claims that she was actually an ugly person who got surgery to sell plastic surgery.
01:18:49.000 It destroyed her career.
01:18:50.000 She sued.
01:18:52.000 I'm wondering if they went to her and they said, it's a film called Shades of Justice, we're going to pay you $15,000 in exchange for your interview, which is legal consideration, but misrepresenting it.
01:19:07.000 The first thing I thought when I read this was, I wonder if she wants to sue for fraud, or she's trying to make that the claim.
01:19:15.000 As an actor in that situation, I would feel defrauded, for sure.
01:19:20.000 If they paid me and used me to promote some message that I didn't agree to, yeah, hopefully there would be a legal system in place to help me against a company that would do that kind of thing.
01:19:30.000 I'll say a couple things on top of that, though.
01:19:32.000 If she did sue the Daily Wire, they'd make substantially more money.
01:19:35.000 They may be counting on these people suing, but also it may actually just be that they never misrepresented anything she said.
01:19:44.000 Everything she said was her own words, and so she may not have any claims at all.
01:19:49.000 And I have to imagine the Daily Wire had strong legal go through everything.
01:19:53.000 I'm just saying it sounds like she wants to take the angle that she was that they committed fraud against her.
01:19:57.000 I wonder if they actually created a company.
01:19:59.000 Was it called Shades of... Shades of Justice was the film.
01:20:03.000 So they didn't actually put out a film called Shades of Justice, but if they like created an entity that then paid her and so it was on the table, like that they had a company made just for the purpose of owning this movie, or if it was actually Daily Wire saying that they were a different company misrepresenting the company.
01:20:19.000 I got anger.
01:20:20.000 That would have been a different story.
01:20:21.000 I gotta be honest though, if they reached out, if the Daily Wire reached out to Robin DiAngelo and said, we're working on a documentary film called Am I Racist, where we explore racism, we talk to academics, that name is not bad.
01:20:35.000 She would have said, okay.
01:20:36.000 That's a good point.
01:20:37.000 Yeah, she would have been like, oh yeah, wow.
01:20:39.000 And it was like asking the question of like, what is racism?
01:20:41.000 Are people actually racist?
01:20:42.000 And we want the academics to explain what that is, because a lot of people don't think they are.
01:20:46.000 That would have worked out just fine.
01:20:47.000 I'm sure they wanted her to have that guard down.
01:20:49.000 I think that she was talking to some kind of an ally.
01:20:51.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, as long as it wasn't the Daily Wire that reached out, she would have not said yes to that.
01:20:54.000 And my race is a film title, she might have gone for.
01:20:56.000 Or if she said yes, then she would have been very defensive against the Daily Wire and would have, you know, wouldn't have done some ridiculous things on camera.
01:21:02.000 But Matt Walsh literally walks in the room and she doesn't know who he is.
01:21:05.000 Because she says ill-fitting wing, I'm like, you thought that later.
01:21:08.000 You didn't know it was a big thing.
01:21:09.000 That's the vibe I'm getting, too.
01:21:10.000 And I think it's interesting that he did appear to be in earnest.
01:21:13.000 I think he was in earnest.
01:21:15.000 I think Matt Walsh is someone who is intellectually curious.
01:21:17.000 I think he really did want her genuine take and response, which is also interesting.
01:21:24.000 You were asked questions that someone really did want the answer to.
01:21:27.000 It wasn't like a gotcha prank and then he, I mean, I guess she had to pay the producer, but it was humiliating if these are your values, I would assume.
01:21:35.000 I don't know.
01:21:35.000 I just gotta say as well though, Matt Walsh is a master of deadpan, so she maybe thinks it's in earnest because he's just so like...
01:21:44.000 Deadpan.
01:21:45.000 You just can't read him at all.
01:21:46.000 Yeah.
01:21:46.000 He's just like, so am I racist?
01:21:48.000 And it's just like, you don't get to read.
01:21:50.000 He's just Matt, Matt should let up.
01:21:51.000 Matt, do you play poker?
01:21:53.000 Matt would be a great poker player.
01:21:54.000 He'd be sitting there stone face.
01:21:55.000 They'd be like, I have no idea.
01:21:56.000 He's a really unique guy.
01:21:58.000 Cause at first I'm like, ah, he's just like, you're at normal average guy.
01:22:02.000 But that's what's unique about him is he's so almost like blends in to the background.
01:22:07.000 And I think he does that maybe by choice.
01:22:09.000 That's kind of his.
01:22:09.000 I just, I can only imagine the things that Matt Walsh has seen that has brought him to a point where he is unfazed by all of these things before him.
01:22:17.000 Yeah, what was his childhood like?
01:22:19.000 I don't know anything about him.
01:22:20.000 I want to hang out with him and know.
01:22:21.000 He saw great combat, conflict, and war and now it's like nothing, nothing gets him going.
01:22:26.000 He's just like, okay.
01:22:27.000 Or was he just on Reddit for like eight years when he was younger and now he's like, nothing can faze me.
01:22:31.000 I just found out recently he's younger than me.
01:22:34.000 I'm older than Matt Walsh by three months.
01:22:37.000 He's very adult.
01:22:38.000 It's the beard.
01:22:39.000 And the kids.
01:22:39.000 I'll never have a Matt Walsh beard.
01:22:42.000 Yeah, I'm excited.
01:22:43.000 This is coming out to... Oh, did it come out today?
01:22:45.000 We gotta watch this.
01:22:46.000 It premiered this week, right?
01:22:48.000 I think today is a Thursday previews and then tomorrow is the movie.
01:22:51.000 So I can't comment too much on it until I see the movie, yeah.
01:22:54.000 You can already tell it's gonna be massive.
01:22:56.000 They're running TV commercials for it.
01:22:58.000 It's in theaters.
01:22:59.000 I'm super excited for this one.
01:23:01.000 I think we're gonna go Korean BBQ and then watch the movie.
01:23:03.000 That sounds like a good idea.
01:23:04.000 It's gonna make her way more famous, that's for sure.
01:23:07.000 Robin DiAngelo.
01:23:08.000 I think a lot of people didn't know who she was.
01:23:10.000 I am so proud of The Daily Wire.
01:23:13.000 This is exactly what I've been talking about the whole time about how you win a culture war.
01:23:20.000 So far what I've seen from the trailers, they have just presented them as they are, but with an authoritative tone of, how silly are they?
01:23:28.000 Because you want to create an atmosphere where everyone thinks, oh of course I'm not stupid like they are!
01:23:37.000 But you don't accomplish that by being so overt.
01:23:39.000 Like, you see that show, The New Norm, we roasted several times, where they try and do these shows that are just on the nose.
01:23:45.000 Actually, Daily Wire was accused of this with Mr. Bertram, or whatever that show was called, or Lady Ballers.
01:23:52.000 They say, all of the jokes are too on the nose.
01:23:55.000 It's like you're literally just saying this is a bad thing.
01:23:58.000 This is masterfully done in that Matt Walsh, in earnest, asking them questions makes them look stupid.
01:24:05.000 And it makes them the butt of the joke without directly saying they're stupid.
01:24:10.000 Am I racist?
01:24:12.000 Genuine question.
01:24:14.000 I wonder about that.
01:24:14.000 What is white supremacy?
01:24:15.000 Have you given Serge reparations?
01:24:18.000 No, I never did.
01:24:18.000 He's African-American.
01:24:20.000 But I do want to repair his microphone.
01:24:22.000 That'd be a nice place to start.
01:24:24.000 It's not broken.
01:24:24.000 Serge made a choice.
01:24:25.000 Look at that haircut, man.
01:24:26.000 Serge made a creative decision.
01:24:28.000 Is it even cut?
01:24:28.000 That hair is just like afro cut.
01:24:30.000 Bush.
01:24:30.000 Just a wild South African bush.
01:24:33.000 Growing wild.
01:24:34.000 I think you're bullying our only African-American employee in the room.
01:24:37.000 I love his hair.
01:24:38.000 No, he's beautiful.
01:24:39.000 That's called positive discrimination, Ian, so you're racist.
01:24:42.000 You're right, I was discriminating about how awesome his hair is.
01:24:44.000 That actually is.
01:24:45.000 To these people, this is the crazy thing.
01:24:47.000 Like, that's considered a bad racist thing.
01:24:50.000 No, you can't say Asians are good at math.
01:24:53.000 It's a compliment, but it's a racial stereotype, and it's wrong.
01:24:56.000 Not all Asians are good at math.
01:24:57.000 Yeah, when people are like, ooh, I love black women.
01:25:00.000 That's like a racist—technically, it is a racist comment.
01:25:02.000 Like, if you're like, I like this particular race of woman or creed of woman or whatever, like, quit being so racist.
01:25:10.000 Sometimes you're just chemically drawn to things.
01:25:11.000 I'm good at math.
01:25:13.000 Well, that goes without saying.
01:25:14.000 I don't know.
01:25:15.000 You know, I don't know.
01:25:16.000 That's how the business works.
01:25:18.000 Maybe you guys can answer this.
01:25:18.000 What is white supremacy?
01:25:20.000 Well, in the literal sense of what most rational human beings think it means, it's people who believe that white racial genetics and ethnicities are superior to other races.
01:25:30.000 Of course, to these people, it literally just means Western civilization.
01:25:35.000 That's what I'm wondering.
01:25:36.000 And so I gotta ask someone that's in this state of mind, this weird thing, what is it?
01:25:41.000 Okay, well, let's break it down.
01:25:42.000 I don't think Robin's taking questions now, though.
01:25:44.000 Seems like she might be fading off.
01:25:46.000 Let's break down the reality of it.
01:25:48.000 Everybody knows what white supremacy is, and the quote-unquote anti-racist authors know exactly what white supremacy is.
01:25:54.000 They decided to use the phrase white supremacy different to how it normally is used in an effort to manipulate people of weak will.
01:26:02.000 So the technique is take a phrase that is obviously a bad thing that everyone hates, apply something else to it, and then you can demonize that thing.
01:26:13.000 So for instance, What they're talking about is Western civilization.
01:26:18.000 They say being on time is white supremacy.
01:26:20.000 They say saving for the future.
01:26:22.000 I'm not exaggerating.
01:26:24.000 They say saving for the future is white supremacy.
01:26:26.000 Anything that is a component of meritocracy is white supremacy.
01:26:29.000 So, basically, white supremacy means bad thing.
01:26:32.000 I can guarantee meritocracy is not.
01:26:34.000 If they said that, they're wrong, because Genghis Khan was all about meritocracy.
01:26:37.000 I know, and they're racist.
01:26:39.000 I've told this story many times.
01:26:41.000 The guy in North Dakota who said that He said, um, scheduling is white supremacy.
01:26:47.000 It's colonial thinking.
01:26:48.000 To me.
01:26:49.000 And I was like, what?
01:26:50.000 Because I had a meeting.
01:26:51.000 I have a meeting in three days.
01:26:52.000 I gotta leave.
01:26:53.000 And he goes, that's colonial thinking.
01:26:54.000 The white colonial settlers brought schedules to the United States.
01:26:57.000 Native Americans just woke up when they needed to.
01:27:00.000 And I was like, Asians had time.
01:27:03.000 I'm part Korean.
01:27:05.000 My people had a sense of time and set schedules well before the white people came.
01:27:09.000 And he goes, well, but we all know the white settlers went to Asia and gave those ideas.
01:27:13.000 And I was like, China invented the compass 1,000 years before you, dude.
01:27:18.000 You are nuts.
01:27:19.000 And I said, I was like, somewhat jokingly, but somewhat seriously, and I said, I will not sit here, because I was at a table full of people, and have a white supremacist tell me that he is better than my people and my ancestry or whatever.
01:27:34.000 But this is a funny thing.
01:27:36.000 They're literally just white supremacists.
01:27:38.000 And I mean that in a literal sense.
01:27:40.000 They are white people who think they are superior and they're guilty about it.
01:27:44.000 I'm not exaggerating, it's not meant to be cute.
01:27:47.000 When people like Robin DiAngelo give money to a black man, she's literally saying, it's because I'm better off than you are, so you need this.
01:27:56.000 That is the mentality they possess.
01:27:58.000 Instead of being like, I don't know, Will Smith's worth hundreds of millions of dollars, he doesn't need anything from me.
01:28:03.000 I don't care about his race.
01:28:05.000 He's a very smart, talented, and wealthy individual.
01:28:09.000 They don't.
01:28:10.000 They say, nope, nope, skin color.
01:28:11.000 That's white supremacy.
01:28:12.000 It's them.
01:28:12.000 There you go.
01:28:15.000 Yeah.
01:28:15.000 Racial supremacy in general?
01:28:17.000 Just like thinking you're racist is superior?
01:28:19.000 Koreans are very racist.
01:28:22.000 In what way?
01:28:23.000 They literally believe they're the supreme race.
01:28:27.000 Yeah, and the younger generations don't hold these views, but there's actually a deep historical reason for it.
01:28:35.000 So, you know, Japan, of course, just brutalizes and rapes the Koreans quite a bit.
01:28:41.000 I'm 5% Japanese, by the way.
01:28:42.000 Ask me how that happened.
01:28:43.000 That's awesome.
01:28:46.000 Not in that context, Jeezy.
01:28:48.000 Calm down.
01:28:51.000 Basically, the Japanese are very ethno-nationalist and racially supremacist.
01:28:56.000 They believe Japanese people are superior, blah, blah, blah, or at least they did to a great degree hundreds of years ago.
01:29:02.000 So when they enslave and conquer parts of Korea and basically control Korea, the Korean response was, No, no, no.
01:29:10.000 We're actually the superior race.
01:29:12.000 They needed morale to counter the conquest of the Japanese.
01:29:17.000 And so they built within their own culture that they were actually superior.
01:29:21.000 And so now they very much think they're superior.
01:29:23.000 But again, the younger generations don't hold those views.
01:29:26.000 The older generations tend to.
01:29:27.000 So white supremacy is probably an extension of Roman supremacy, because the Romans were a lot like that, too.
01:29:32.000 They were brutalized by their neighbors until they decided they're going to stop being brutalized.
01:29:36.000 And now they're going to become the great ones, the conquerors.
01:29:39.000 I would have believed Korean supremacy when Gangnam Style dominated the world in 2012.
01:29:44.000 Yeah, but that was orchestrated intentionally.
01:29:47.000 By who?
01:29:47.000 Um, what was that guy's name?
01:29:49.000 Scoot or something?
01:29:50.000 Yeah, he publicly talks about this.
01:29:52.000 Taylor Swift guy?
01:29:54.000 Was it Scooter Braun?
01:29:55.000 It might have been.
01:29:56.000 I think I met him.
01:29:58.000 Maybe it wasn't him.
01:29:58.000 All I know is I was at like Google World or whatever it was called.
01:30:01.000 And they talked about how they intentionally... Gangnam Style was a psyop is what you're saying?
01:30:06.000 It was a marketing campaign by international outlets that they wanted to isolate a song that they saw like Macarena that could be like a bop.
01:30:16.000 And so they worked a big marketing campaign to make it a meme.
01:30:19.000 And then nailed it.
01:30:21.000 Yeah, they did.
01:30:21.000 It was great.
01:30:22.000 Nailed it.
01:30:23.000 It feels like I must talk to them and see how they start.
01:30:25.000 No, I fell for it.
01:30:25.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:30:26.000 Seriously, I fell for the sound.
01:30:27.000 Yeah, the story was that they were looking for us.
01:30:29.000 So I could be wrong about this.
01:30:31.000 It's been a decade plus since I heard the story, but I was at a Google event and the guy there, I thought it was that Scooter guy.
01:30:36.000 I could be wrong.
01:30:37.000 Maybe it's not.
01:30:38.000 It was the guy who found Justin Bieber.
01:30:39.000 Was that him?
01:30:39.000 Yeah, Scooter Braun.
01:30:40.000 Oh, I think this was him.
01:30:41.000 Public enemy of Taylor Swift.
01:30:43.000 Interesting.
01:30:44.000 Totally could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he told us this story where it was...
01:30:49.000 They had found the song.
01:30:50.000 They knew it was very popular in Korea, and they felt like it could be like a Macarena.
01:30:57.000 And so they said they wanted to do a big campaign to push it.
01:31:00.000 And Psy said something like, if you can make me big in America, you can keep all the money.
01:31:04.000 And they were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we can't do that.
01:31:05.000 We can't do that.
01:31:06.000 You're gonna get paid, but we're gonna make this huge, and we're gonna make a lot of money off it.
01:31:10.000 And so...
01:31:12.000 The long story short of it is it was a big marketing campaign.
01:31:15.000 It was totally inorganic.
01:31:17.000 It was intentionally made to go viral.
01:31:19.000 Like Justin Bieber, right?
01:31:20.000 They found him on YouTube or whatever.
01:31:22.000 Oh, you know, and like, I don't know much about that story with Justin Bieber, but I'm pretty sure it was like he was already assigned talent and they just pretended like they found some kid on YouTube.
01:31:31.000 Is that what it was?
01:31:32.000 Do you know anything about it?
01:31:33.000 I've heard that he was discovered on YouTube, but actually he was already in talks with talent agencies and stuff.
01:31:39.000 I've never really known for sure what the origin story.
01:31:42.000 He basically got, like, adopted by Usher and then was suddenly, you know, on his way to Popstar.
01:31:48.000 And P. Diddy, Serge is saying.
01:31:50.000 Yeah.
01:31:51.000 I don't know why I'm allowed to talk about pop culture over here.
01:31:53.000 It's great stories.
01:31:54.000 So, you know, Gangnam Style appears on Reddit and then makes it to the front page of Reddit.
01:31:59.000 And then they...
01:32:01.000 It just keeps popping up on social media, and it goes viral, and... You're ruining Joel's faith in pop culture.
01:32:07.000 Seriously.
01:32:08.000 No, no.
01:32:08.000 The problem is, Na Paul Baji is the best Psy song, and they didn't promote it, so Americans don't even know it, and it's way better than Gangnam Style.
01:32:16.000 I'm not kidding.
01:32:17.000 Na Paul Baji.
01:32:18.000 Look it up.
01:32:18.000 It's a way better song.
01:32:19.000 And then what did they promote?
01:32:20.000 They promoted, what, like, Daddy and Gentleman.
01:32:23.000 And those are good.
01:32:25.000 Like, Psy is good, but Na Paul Baji is his best song.
01:32:28.000 I defy anyone to challenge me on that.
01:32:32.000 And it's just that it wasn't a big promotion for them, so it never really got big.
01:32:36.000 Yeah, the singles they lined up, they were like, size back with the new song, you know, I got it for my daddy or whatever, and then Gentleman.
01:32:42.000 And I was like, they needed to do Napo Bajji.
01:32:46.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats almost immediately, but Joel, I gotta ask you about your big promotion here, because you've just changed kind of roles.
01:32:52.000 You're going from Matt Gaetz's office to Lauren Boebert's office.
01:32:54.000 What's happening, man?
01:32:55.000 And what's the plan?
01:32:56.000 What's going on?
01:32:57.000 Yeah, I mean, Lauren Boebert is already a star in Congress.
01:33:01.000 I'm hoping to make her a superstar.
01:33:04.000 Is that how you pitched yourself?
01:33:06.000 You're like, look, you could be a superstar.
01:33:09.000 No, no, I was more humble than that.
01:33:13.000 I've known Congresswoman Boehrig now for about two years now.
01:33:18.000 I mean, I see her all over the place when I'm traveling with Matt or Matt Gaetz or I'm with them in the Capitol building.
01:33:27.000 And, you know, I think we've been serving in Matt's office.
01:33:30.000 I think we made huge strides from where he was in 2020 when I joined to Uh, 2024 and you know, I kind of felt, you know, four and a half years.
01:33:40.000 I thought it was graduation time.
01:33:42.000 Um, and Matt, obviously he's a, he's, he's a friend of mine.
01:33:45.000 Uh, I'm always going to be a loyal soldier of his.
01:33:48.000 So if he ever needs anything, I told him when I was departing, you know, anything you need, I'll still be there.
01:33:52.000 I'll still be in the fight.
01:33:54.000 Um, but I've always been inspired by Matt and Lauren and I wanted to join her fight.
01:33:59.000 And we'd always been having some conversations about, What her goals were for Colorado, she's obviously switching districts from Colorado's third to the fourth So she has these big plans to make sure we end the year strong representing the third district and moving on to represent the fourth and
01:34:17.000 You know, I just I'm very driven by being inspired by people's vision.
01:34:21.000 And I was really excited by her.
01:34:23.000 Do you get focused more on like the federal promotion of her in the federal role or on state tactics?
01:34:30.000 What do you mean?
01:34:30.000 Like, you really it's always you focus most on like promote like making her famous.
01:34:34.000 Is that really what it's about is like more coverage on what she's doing holistically?
01:34:38.000 No, I think she does that all by herself, naturally.
01:34:41.000 I think some of these newcomers in Congress who shot to stardom immediately, that's just their natural charisma.
01:34:50.000 I'm there to help maximize their message and their vision.
01:34:54.000 And I've done that in many ways with Matt on the federal level and in the local level.
01:34:59.000 But I actually, when I was meeting with Lauren these past few months, I wasn't totally aware
01:35:05.000 of these major accomplishments she had been doing locally.
01:35:11.000 And she had been without proper comms professionals for a while.
01:35:18.000 And, you know, I thought this would be a great time to jump in.
01:35:21.000 And, you know, a lot of people like to disparage her.
01:35:24.000 A lot of the mainstream media, a lot of these losers on social media.
01:35:27.000 But I thought, you know, if you had someone like me on your team, we could push out the great things that you're doing on the ground.
01:35:32.000 But at the same time, let's take advantage of the things that people care about nationally.
01:35:37.000 Let's figure out a way to get your voice in there because she's an important one.
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01:36:14.000 T-Bomb says, members only, seven days to die server starting up this weekend.
01:36:17.000 Info and discussion in the Discord.
01:36:19.000 Are you kidding me?
01:36:20.000 Have you played seven days, dude?
01:36:21.000 No.
01:36:22.000 It's awesome.
01:36:23.000 It's like Minecraft, but it's zombies, fighting zombies, building defenses.
01:36:27.000 It's amazing.
01:36:28.000 It's great.
01:36:29.000 Did I ever tell you my video game idea?
01:36:30.000 No.
01:36:31.000 We gotta make it.
01:36:31.000 Which one?
01:36:32.000 So the idea is every week, You build the fences, you collect materials, and it's kinda like GTA.
01:36:39.000 And then we pick a day, like Friday, maybe Sunday, at like 7pm, a disaster happens.
01:36:46.000 And you never know what the disaster's gonna be.
01:36:48.000 So it's like, the whole week you're collecting ammo, you're getting food, you're getting money, you're buying stuff, you're driving around, and then...
01:36:54.000 Saturday, we give you like a hint, and it's like, get prepared.
01:36:57.000 And then Sunday, there's a countdown, and then right at seven, it could be a flash flood, it could be an alien invasion, it could be zombies, it could be, you know, the military.
01:37:05.000 Imagine this.
01:37:06.000 You're playing, and then all of a sudden, the countdown starts, and it says half the players will be government, half the players will be revolutionary.
01:37:13.000 Bang! And then just boom, everyone just switches and now it's like, survive.
01:37:16.000 Every time, you told me this a few times, it makes me think of Seven Days because every
01:37:19.000 seven days there's a blood moon and the zombies go psychotic.
01:37:22.000 So you should check it out because it might give you more inspiration.
01:37:25.000 I've had this idea for a decade plus and it came from the corrupted blood incident in World of
01:37:30.000 Warcraft where a plague spread accidentally in the game and virologists, epidemiologists or
01:37:38.000 whatever, tracked the data from it because it mimicked real world pandemics.
01:37:43.000 And so I was like, what if we made a game that simulates a disaster every week, and then you track the data on how people respond to, say, a flash flood, an earthquake, a volcanic eruption, a meteor strike.
01:37:53.000 Imagine you're playing, and you build this big fortress, and you're like, dude, I am so ready, and then the meteor hits right into your base and you're dead instantly.
01:37:59.000 And you're like, oh man, I didn't even get to play!
01:38:01.000 And it's like, you died.
01:38:02.000 You know?
01:38:04.000 So I pitched as Vice was interested.
01:38:06.000 One of their executives was like, we could probably do that.
01:38:07.000 And we started, we worked on it a little bit and then everyone went anywhere.
01:38:10.000 Someone else should make it.
01:38:11.000 Or maybe that's close enough to what seven days... You could mod it.
01:38:14.000 You could mod the server and make it do crazy, crazy, uh, every seven days some crazy shit just goes down.
01:38:21.000 That'd be wild.
01:38:22.000 And then basically release the data on how players responded.
01:38:25.000 The goal is survive.
01:38:26.000 And then it would be like 37% of players became mass murderers and started stealing and looting.
01:38:31.000 I tell you man, people think about zombie apocalypse but the zombie dogs are no joke because they are fast and small and hard to hit.
01:38:39.000 Don't tell the Haitians.
01:38:41.000 Alright!
01:38:41.000 John Enyart says, first super chat long time viewer, no tax on overtime would be amazing since I work 10 to 30 hours of overtime weekly.
01:38:49.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:38:50.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:38:54.000 Ben Hickson says, Australia is putting for a misinformation bill where the news media is excluded and harm includes efficacy of preventative health measures in Australia.
01:39:05.000 Search misinformation bill Australia 2024.
01:39:07.000 Wow, that's crazy.
01:39:10.000 All right.
01:39:11.000 Kalashnikov says, This sounds like early steps in the negotiation process.
01:39:14.000 If the Kamala campaign really wants a debate, Trump will appear like he's not interested until they get desperate enough to accept on his terms.
01:39:21.000 Imagine hosted by Fox.
01:39:22.000 They would never do it.
01:39:24.000 Yep.
01:39:26.000 Let's go.
01:39:27.000 We'll grab some more Super Chats.
01:39:30.000 Kyle Lipka says Trump not wanting another debate seems like bait for an overconfident Kamala campaign to finally agree to a Fox debate with Trump-biased moderators where he can maybe hammer her on economics unhindered.
01:39:43.000 Trump made a good point.
01:39:44.000 He says when a fighter loses the championship match, he immediately demands a rematch.
01:39:48.000 The winner says, I won.
01:39:50.000 And so Kamala immediately coming out and being like, I want another one, I think suggests they know she didn't get the economy stuff and that's what she really needed.
01:39:58.000 And so while she may have go to Trump, Trump may have slipped up.
01:40:00.000 He's like, well, she missed where it mattered.
01:40:02.000 Don't give her.
01:40:03.000 And now he knows they're going to correct for this and he doesn't need to give her the opportunity.
01:40:07.000 He can say he did the debate and he can go, oh yeah, you know, I guess she did well, didn't she?
01:40:11.000 But I'm better on the economy and she will never get a rebuttal.
01:40:14.000 Yep.
01:40:17.000 Let's go.
01:40:17.000 Jason Dixon says, Tim, will you please play the Eating the Cats song?
01:40:20.000 I'd also like to see you dance to it in your chair.
01:40:22.000 Well, I was head bobbing.
01:40:25.000 That was great.
01:40:25.000 He mentions cats, but it's mostly about dogs.
01:40:27.000 Yeah, it's mostly dogs.
01:40:28.000 I think it's funny that he was like, I'm making this so that Trump looks bad.
01:40:32.000 Did you not watch it back afterwards?
01:40:34.000 It's so funny.
01:40:35.000 So good.
01:40:37.000 All right.
01:40:38.000 Nicosia Connection says, Rip Faye the Swan.
01:40:41.000 Faye was the mascot of the town of Manilis, New York, outside of Syracuse.
01:40:45.000 She lost her life and was eaten by Burmese migrants.
01:40:49.000 Her babies were fortunately recovered.
01:40:51.000 Syracuse, New York, is David Muir's hometown.
01:40:56.000 You can't make this stuff up.
01:40:57.000 Wow.
01:40:58.000 That's crazy.
01:41:01.000 Tyler Bratton says at the LP convention Trump promised to end the income tax and replace it with tariffs.
01:41:06.000 Did he?
01:41:07.000 I don't know.
01:41:08.000 I don't remember that.
01:41:09.000 That's a big deal.
01:41:13.000 I still want to know which Libertarian he would name to his cabinet.
01:41:16.000 I can understand why he's not declaring who right now, but it would be interesting which cabinet position he thinks would be best suited for a Libertarian.
01:41:24.000 What if he said Dave Smith?
01:41:25.000 Would you vote for him?
01:41:28.000 If Dave Smith was like, yeah, I'm a hundred percent.
01:41:31.000 Yeah.
01:41:31.000 Dave Smith deserves to be, I want him in office.
01:41:33.000 So if, if Donald Trump said he's going to bring Dave Smith into his cabinet, you'd vote for Trump?
01:41:37.000 If Dave Smith was like, yes, I'm doing it.
01:41:39.000 Like if, if Dave walked up, they shook hands and Dave was like, I'll do what I can.
01:41:42.000 Oh yeah.
01:41:42.000 You're voting for a coalition at that point.
01:41:44.000 I mean, you're still voting for a coalition.
01:41:46.000 I actually think it's reasonable that Trump—that could actually happen.
01:41:52.000 Like, in terms of things that are within the realm of possibility, that is one of them.
01:41:56.000 Granted, it's probably a long shot, but I don't—like, I'll put it this way.
01:42:02.000 If prominent Trump personality forces were like, Dave Smith's popular, prominent, he's friends with Brogan, he's got moderates, he's not a big Trump guy, but if you promise to bring him in and he agreed, you're gonna win several more percentage points for moderates.
01:42:16.000 Easily.
01:42:17.000 I mean, yes.
01:42:18.000 I think it's more a question of would Dave do it?
01:42:20.000 Yeah, that's the question.
01:42:21.000 Because he could have had the LP nomination for sure.
01:42:24.000 It's easy for Trump to promise a cabinet position to anybody.
01:42:26.000 I mean, what about someone like Rand Paul?
01:42:28.000 Oh, like the Libertarians all said at the convention, if Trump brought Rand Paul in, they all vote for him.
01:42:34.000 They were just like, if he brings in Rand Paul, then we're voting for him.
01:42:37.000 Rand's great.
01:42:38.000 Yeah, he is.
01:42:39.000 Get him as close to the White House as possible.
01:42:43.000 All right.
01:42:45.000 Common Sense Fishing says, Being a fellow business owner, Tim, I'd have thought you'd have known the company pays the same amount no matter what.
01:42:55.000 The taxes come out of employees' pay.
01:42:57.000 So no way that companies can abuse this.
01:43:00.000 For overtime?
01:43:02.000 What do you mean?
01:43:02.000 No, I was the one that was asking that question.
01:43:04.000 You didn't say anything about it.
01:43:06.000 I was wondering if the company's payroll taxes are going to change.
01:43:08.000 Well, I was saying that a boss is going to be like, oh, that must have been you.
01:43:13.000 Because what I was saying was, if I have 12 hours that need to be filled in one work day or whatever, and I can get one person to work the whole time, why hire two people?
01:43:25.000 Because it costs you more to have two people, doesn't it?
01:43:27.000 Just in general?
01:43:28.000 It depends on how you're scheduling them.
01:43:30.000 If you're paying overtime, you're paying $5 more per hour.
01:43:33.000 However, you could arguably pay less because it's tax-free.
01:43:37.000 So instead of paying two people at $10 an hour, you tell the one guy I'll give you $9 an hour, but the overtime work you're going to get is time and a half tax-free.
01:43:44.000 And so you figure out the mathematical equation to where you're actually getting one guy to work more for less.
01:43:51.000 There it is.
01:43:52.000 But I don't know if that ultimately checks out in the end, so...
01:43:56.000 Roger Johnson says, oil field automation worker here.
01:44:00.000 You are not an admin.
01:44:02.000 If you are not an admin ornament, is that what you're saying?
01:44:06.000 Or, uh, or management.
01:44:07.000 Oh, okay.
01:44:08.000 I see.
01:44:08.000 It's a typo.
01:44:09.000 And actually go out and do physical or computer programming.
01:44:12.000 Your employer is required to pay you straight overtime.
01:44:14.000 Hmm.
01:44:16.000 Well, there you go.
01:44:18.000 Seductive Rue says, requesting prayers for my cat, Archie.
01:44:21.000 Vet diagnosed him with kidney disease.
01:44:24.000 Says he only has a few months left.
01:44:25.000 He's only four years old.
01:44:27.000 No idea the cause.
01:44:28.000 They'll tell you that, man.
01:44:29.000 Healthy diet.
01:44:30.000 Get him on some organic foods.
01:44:32.000 I looked into stem cells.
01:44:33.000 It's not cheap.
01:44:34.000 It was like $4,000 or $5,000 for the operation.
01:44:36.000 We did it.
01:44:37.000 Yeah, stem cells worked wonders.
01:44:38.000 It's hard to tell because we changed his diet right at the time, but I tell you, man, you get him on some really good organic meats, you'd be shocked at how healthy that cat can become.
01:44:46.000 There's also kidney transplants.
01:44:48.000 So a cat that is on death row, you know, these cats that are in shelters that are kill shelters or whatever, they will say, if you take this cat, they will put one of his kidneys in the other cat, but you have to adopt the other cat.
01:45:01.000 So it saves two lives.
01:45:02.000 That's the deal.
01:45:03.000 So that's an opportunity.
01:45:04.000 Also, Archie, if Archie wants to live, he's gonna live.
01:45:07.000 So give him the love.
01:45:09.000 And do not take him to Springfield, Ohio.
01:45:14.000 All right, Roger says, on Indeed it says a ramp agent in Rockford makes $19 an hour.
01:45:20.000 That sounds about right, but Rockford's pretty far from O'Hare.
01:45:24.000 I'd imagine that the wages, because this was 20 years ago when I was working at O'Hare, being paid $10 an hour.
01:45:31.000 I'd have to imagine it's $20 today, you know?
01:45:35.000 Let's go!
01:45:36.000 SD says, Tim and crew, I absolutely appreciate your work.
01:45:39.000 Godspeed in the coffee shops.
01:45:40.000 I live in Baltimore, but we'll definitely make it a point to get to the coffee shop weekly to be with individuals that have free thought.
01:45:46.000 Again, thank you.
01:45:47.000 The real thing that we're excited for, and maybe, you know, I've been saying this, but it's, you know, I'm trying to manage too much.
01:45:54.000 The second floor of the building, we want to be a private club.
01:45:57.000 The problem we have right now is the way the city and the state view the building is that there's only one floor.
01:46:03.000 There's three floors, but they're all considered one open structure.
01:46:08.000 So if you have stairs, and it's open, and it's a public accommodation, you have to have a way for handicapped people to get up those stairs.
01:46:16.000 The elevator we have is from the 1900s, one of the oldest elevators in the country.
01:46:19.000 We don't want to replace it.
01:46:21.000 To custom mill all the parts to get it up to code would be absolutely insane.
01:46:24.000 We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars.
01:46:26.000 Or we can do a $50,000 replacement and get rid of a historic elevator in one of the oldest buildings.
01:46:30.000 We don't want to do that either.
01:46:31.000 So we were like...
01:46:33.000 Let's just call the second floor private and the first floor.
01:46:35.000 And they said, actually, the way the building's designed, the second and the first floor are one unit.
01:46:41.000 And the second and third floor aren't even separated by a wall.
01:46:43.000 It's just stairs.
01:46:43.000 So it's all one unit.
01:46:45.000 And we're like, what?
01:46:46.000 There's a door.
01:46:47.000 The first floor, there's a door you have to open.
01:46:49.000 The door doesn't mean anything.
01:46:51.000 You actually have to close it off.
01:46:52.000 And we're like, ugh.
01:46:54.000 So we wanted to open the private club first while we're waiting for the coffee shop, but it's a historic building.
01:46:58.000 It's hard to change.
01:46:59.000 And it's just been, you know, it's funny because contractors are like, look, it's a city and the city's like, no, it's not.
01:47:05.000 It's not us.
01:47:05.000 And we're like, okay, whatever.
01:47:06.000 Have you looked into those stair elevator things?
01:47:09.000 Can you use those?
01:47:10.000 Yeah, but it's like a track you install, but then we're modifying a historic building once again and we run into the same problems.
01:47:19.000 So we're like, then how do we just get this going?
01:47:21.000 And they're like, you're almost there.
01:47:22.000 And we're like, oh, okay.
01:47:24.000 I can't believe it, dude.
01:47:26.000 But now I can probably make assumptions as to why the previous owner sold the building.
01:47:30.000 I think they just don't, I think, I think they don't want the building to change, the historic building.
01:47:34.000 They're like, use it as, I don't know.
01:47:36.000 I don't trust them.
01:47:36.000 I am kind of pissed off because I keep saying like, dude, we could rent a strip mall storefront for a couple grand and have the coffee shop open in a month.
01:47:43.000 So I'm like...
01:47:46.000 Whatever.
01:47:47.000 But the work is happening.
01:47:48.000 That's all I can say.
01:47:49.000 The work is happening.
01:47:50.000 It's not like people aren't just sitting around.
01:47:52.000 It's just annoying.
01:47:54.000 And the building is there.
01:47:56.000 It's right next to Mamba Collectibles in Martinsburg.
01:47:58.000 Shout out to Mamba.
01:47:59.000 Play Commander Magic the Gathering on Saturdays.
01:48:02.000 In the meantime, go to castbrew.com and get a bag of Graphene Dream.
01:48:05.000 It's really good.
01:48:07.000 Easy on the stomach.
01:48:08.000 Yeah, we need to actually...
01:48:10.000 We never really, we never, you know what?
01:48:13.000 We never formally launched the competition.
01:48:15.000 Well I'm winning regardless.
01:48:16.000 You are actually.
01:48:17.000 It's me versus, oh yeah.
01:48:18.000 It's hard to beat Graphene Dream.
01:48:20.000 I wrote a song about it actually, it's on my YouTube channel.
01:48:22.000 Well because people bought the Graphene Dream and then reported it's actually one of the best blends that we have flavor-wise.
01:48:27.000 Excellent.
01:48:28.000 And so, it started to sell more and more and more.
01:48:31.000 Like, I always mention this.
01:48:33.000 When we first launched, Rise of the Birdo Jr.
01:48:34.000 was going to be our flagship product.
01:48:37.000 And that's why we put the rooster on it.
01:48:39.000 Appalachian Nights was just my choice.
01:48:41.000 I like dark roast.
01:48:42.000 And I thought Appalachian Nights sounded cool.
01:48:44.000 And then once everyone started buying Roberto Jr., and they'd get a little bit of Appalachian Nights, but then once they bought it, they were like, this is the best coffee I've ever had, and then Appalachian Nights became number one, no matter what we promoted.
01:48:55.000 Something similar happened with Graphene Dream, where we were like, Ian's got coffee, and people were like, oh, I'll try it, and now it's selling a lot, because people are like, actually, this is delicious.
01:49:02.000 This is super good.
01:49:03.000 Excellent.
01:49:04.000 Yeah.
01:49:04.000 I'm gonna go, I'm gonna pivot into Appalachian Nights for my next couple weeks, I think.
01:49:09.000 Do you guys make them with, like, K-cups?
01:49:10.000 Yep.
01:49:11.000 Yeah, we got cake cups, we got whole bean, we got ground, and, uh, we are going to be launching protein bars.
01:49:17.000 Cool.
01:49:18.000 I've got one right here.
01:49:19.000 And they're based.
01:49:20.000 So, uh, like, where are the ingredients?
01:49:22.000 I don't know.
01:49:23.000 There's like five ingredients.
01:49:24.000 It says thyme pool on it.
01:49:26.000 There's a misprint.
01:49:26.000 That's funny.
01:49:27.000 Yep, they're all misprinted.
01:49:28.000 This one is vanilla coconut.
01:49:30.000 Yeah, I only really like the sweet and salty ones.
01:49:32.000 Which are phenomenal.
01:49:33.000 So I told Mark Lobliner, I was like, I want a protein bar, and I want nothing in it.
01:49:38.000 I was like, give me whey protein, peanut butter, and coconut oil.
01:49:40.000 And he was like, you're gonna need a little bit more than that, but we could do that.
01:49:44.000 And so Mark got the formulating, sent me a package, and my mind was blown.
01:49:48.000 I gotta say, the sweet and salty one melts when you have a sip of coffee with it.
01:49:52.000 It is so good with coffee.
01:49:54.000 You should sell them at the coffee shop for sure.
01:49:56.000 They go great with the coffee.
01:49:57.000 Are these still in production?
01:49:58.000 These are production samples, we have some more coming.
01:50:02.000 But the ingredients, so there's one that's like double chocolate and it's got a lot of ingredients.
01:50:06.000 There's like erythritol sweetened chocolate.
01:50:08.000 I'm not a big fan of that, but some people are down with it and it tastes really good.
01:50:12.000 Sweet and salty is the best.
01:50:13.000 The ingredients are peanut butter, whey, coconut oil, fiber, and peanuts.
01:50:19.000 You gotta get it RFK approved.
01:50:21.000 That would be so funny!
01:50:24.000 We'll sell them in little glass cases, that way there's no plastic.
01:50:28.000 I'm kidding by the way, we can't do that.
01:50:30.000 Are you going to launch with one flavor or do a small one?
01:50:34.000 I think we have four or five flavors.
01:50:36.000 Because the only one I've tried is a cake.
01:50:37.000 Is it cake batter or birthday cake?
01:50:39.000 Yeah, birthday cake.
01:50:40.000 It tastes like birthday cake, but I don't like that stuff.
01:50:42.000 I think I got one of those here, too.
01:50:44.000 Try the sweet and salty when you get a chance.
01:50:45.000 Get like a hundred of them or like 200 of them or something.
01:50:48.000 The reason why I think the sweet and salty is the best.
01:50:50.000 So good, dude.
01:50:52.000 So the chocolate and the sweet and salty are the best, and it's because it's the flavors are normal.
01:50:58.000 The vanilla coconut is good, but it's coconut flavor.
01:51:01.000 I like that there's bits of coconut.
01:51:02.000 It seems like there's bits of coconut in it.
01:51:04.000 Actually, I don't think it's coconut flavor.
01:51:05.000 I think it's actually coconut.
01:51:07.000 The birthday cake one is birthday cake flavored, and that's why it's like, well, it tastes like you're eating a protein bar.
01:51:12.000 But the sweet and salty one tastes like you're eating peanut butter.
01:51:14.000 Yeah.
01:51:15.000 Like peanut butter with peanuts in it.
01:51:17.000 And I'm like, oh, they got allulose in them, too.
01:51:19.000 Allulose is a sugar that your body does not use.
01:51:23.000 Is it derived from monk fruit?
01:51:24.000 Is that correct?
01:51:27.000 Allulose is the sugar of monk fruit.
01:51:29.000 I don't know that we're using monk fruit derivative allulose.
01:51:33.000 Yeah.
01:51:34.000 Alright, let's grab a little bit more here.
01:51:36.000 Steven Schalk says, if you're making less than 85k a year, you're probably being ripped off if you're on salary.
01:51:42.000 Man, I know a lot of people that are frustrated with being on salary.
01:51:47.000 That work 80 hours, 100 hours, and you never know when you're gonna be asked to stay another couple hours.
01:51:51.000 It's like, just depends on the job, I guess.
01:51:54.000 Because if the job just needs to get done, then it doesn't really matter how long you work, then salary makes sense.
01:52:00.000 Let's go!
01:52:02.000 Michael Kavanaugh says, my small town Perkins, Georgia has a community well that has failed and we are trying to raise funds to get drinking water back to about a hundred people.
01:52:11.000 Any donations are appreciated.
01:52:12.000 GoFundMe, search Perkins Community Well.
01:52:15.000 Holy crap, dude.
01:52:16.000 I hope that works out.
01:52:17.000 That's crazy.
01:52:19.000 I'll take a look at it.
01:52:20.000 Try and figure out the... Is it a GoFundMe, he said?
01:52:22.000 Perkins Community Well?
01:52:24.000 It's GoFundMe.
01:52:26.000 Perkins Community Well.
01:52:29.000 Let's get this thing built.
01:52:32.000 We're gonna, we're gonna, we gotta call Mr. Beast!
01:52:34.000 Yes!
01:52:35.000 Perkins Community Well.
01:52:37.000 Give Send Go.
01:52:40.000 It does not want to show me the results.
01:52:42.000 No, it's GoFundMe, not Give Send Go.
01:52:44.000 GoFundMe.
01:52:45.000 I don't like GoFundMe.
01:52:46.000 They're racist.
01:52:47.000 Go...fund...yourself.
01:52:48.000 They're anti-trucker too.
01:52:49.000 I'll have to search for it cause it doesn't come up on Google.
01:52:52.000 Yeah, I don't see it.
01:52:53.000 Yeah, they're anti-trucker and they're racist.
01:52:56.000 I found it.
01:52:56.000 It's on Give Send Go.
01:52:57.000 You did?
01:52:57.000 I'll send you a link.
01:52:58.000 Oh, it is Give Send Go.
01:53:00.000 GoFundMe, sorry.
01:53:02.000 Because this is what we all like and prefer.
01:53:03.000 So it's our default.
01:53:04.000 I gotta tell you guys, people keep saying like, you know, GoFundMe and all that.
01:53:08.000 And I'm just like, I don't want to promote GoFundMe.
01:53:10.000 They've done a bunch of things where they've backstabbed and sabotaged people and it's not okay.
01:53:18.000 All right.
01:53:19.000 As the world crumbles says, how do you win a debate if you're in office now?
01:53:22.000 Was she arguing with herself?
01:53:25.000 Yes.
01:53:27.000 Indeed.
01:53:29.000 Do you think there will come a point in the next six weeks or however much time we have before the election where she just outright is like, Joe Biden did a bad job?
01:53:36.000 Or do you think she's always going to tack to a, like, trying to avoid talking about him position?
01:53:41.000 Avoid.
01:53:42.000 I think if the numbers start to dramatically move far apart, I feel like they're, you know, I've been seeing consistently they seem neck and neck.
01:53:49.000 But, you know, if she's on a clear downward spiral, maybe.
01:53:52.000 Maybe.
01:53:52.000 Or if he comes out against her in any way, maybe.
01:53:55.000 It would make her look kind of hypocritical because she did Praise him and her sort of eulogy at the DNC.
01:54:01.000 On the other hand, maybe that's what the crowd wants.
01:54:05.000 Maybe Democrats want Joe Biden to be the bad guy now.
01:54:08.000 I don't know.
01:54:09.000 Sometimes they eat their own.
01:54:10.000 Ron says my town is full of Kamala signs.
01:54:12.000 The town over, the town I visit every other week, all Kamala.
01:54:15.000 All she had to do was not look like an idiot and Google the media.
01:54:18.000 Social media feds will get her over the line.
01:54:20.000 Someone tweeted at me.
01:54:22.000 I love when people are doing this now.
01:54:23.000 Someone tweeted at me because I like the signs that are, they were Biden-Harris and they just cut off the name.
01:54:28.000 Someone sent me one where it was like they cut but kept the E in Biden so it's like a little red symbol and then so it's like this triple equal sign and then Harris.
01:54:37.000 Like the time that it took to just go around this one thing is so funny.
01:54:41.000 So please send me pictures from your town only if they are formerly Biden-Harris signs.
01:54:46.000 Those are the best ones.
01:54:48.000 All right, let's go.
01:54:51.000 Juice says, if the tax is changed so there are no tax on overtime, this non-tax share would go in the investment fund.
01:55:01.000 This money would always be yours, not state.
01:55:03.000 I don't know what that means.
01:55:06.000 Barrett says, you need to be pressing on Israel-Palestine.
01:55:09.000 It's an issue that carries far down ballot and if argued properly will pull tons of votes from Dems.
01:55:14.000 Indeed it will.
01:55:16.000 Yep, but the average voter is—it's a fair point to the other guy—they might just be thinking like, I don't know, Trump looks dumb.
01:55:23.000 They're not going to think a lot.
01:55:24.000 But I think anger plays better than condescension when it comes to a bad economy.
01:55:31.000 So the average person just being pissed off and frustrated because they can't pay their rent sees Kamala going, hmm, well, meh, meh.
01:55:38.000 And they're just like, she's just smug right now while we're suffering.
01:55:42.000 And she's holding the keys.
01:55:43.000 Trump's yelling at her, give me Trump.
01:55:46.000 Anger plays better, no matter what the anger's about.
01:55:50.000 Alright, what do we got?
01:55:50.000 What is this?
01:55:53.000 Stephanie Hall says, okay, she did great that one time, but if that's normal, why was the debate first time we've seen it, and how long did she have to prepare to be that good?
01:56:01.000 You know, I don't know.
01:56:02.000 Maybe she's good in all the debates.
01:56:04.000 Doesn't matter.
01:56:04.000 Trump needs to do better.
01:56:07.000 You know, but I think he did well.
01:56:09.000 Austin Patterson says, why do most GOP people cheer when celebrities endorse Trump and then boo when celebrities endorse Democrats?
01:56:15.000 Like the Taylor Swift thing.
01:56:17.000 I don't understand why you ask that question.
01:56:20.000 It is kind of an assumption that most of them do that, but some people just are in a cult.
01:56:26.000 Why do people cheer when celebrities endorse Trump and boo when they don't?
01:56:30.000 Because they like Trump.
01:56:33.000 It works the other way, too.
01:56:35.000 They make fun of Kid Rock and Hulk Hogan when they were at the at the RNC.
01:56:40.000 And then, you know, when when they have the rumor of Beyonce, they're thrilled.
01:56:44.000 I mean, I think the media is overstating how freaked out, quote unquote, I've seen these headlines like MAGA is melting down because Taylor Swift endorsed Trump.
01:56:53.000 She's endorsed Democrats for years.
01:56:55.000 People aren't that surprised.
01:56:56.000 It's not it's not groundbreaking.
01:56:59.000 I thought it was really annoying when everyone was like, FJB, Joe Biden's terrible, forget Joe Biden, screw Joe Biden.
01:57:04.000 And then Kamala Harris is now the nominee and they're like, F Kamala Harris, screw Kamala Harris.
01:57:09.000 It's like they just took the chip out and put in the Kamala Harris chip, like NPC alert.
01:57:13.000 You got to be careful you don't become that no matter what side you're on.
01:57:15.000 I feel like that's not true, and you're just saying that to sound like... It happened overnight when Kamala got the nomination.
01:57:20.000 It was disgusting.
01:57:20.000 Kamala cast 33 tie-breaking votes, and if not for her, Biden could not sign anything.
01:57:24.000 No one even mentioned her name until she was a candidate.
01:57:26.000 It was gross that people, like, immediately, just all this focus went.
01:57:29.000 It was like, eh, now I must hate this thing.
01:57:32.000 Like, obviously.
01:57:33.000 The political sphere for which I occupy and the people I follow had been talking about Kamala.
01:57:38.000 Joe Biden as the president and the frontrunner in the campaign was central focus, but Kamala got a lot of attention.
01:57:43.000 We made fun of the way she spoke all the time.
01:57:45.000 Kamala Harris got like no media attention until about three months ago.
01:57:48.000 She didn't do anything.
01:57:49.000 She got more attention as the frontrunner for the Democratic Party, that is true.
01:57:54.000 But to make the argument that she wasn't getting apt criticism from the right is silly.
01:57:58.000 It was just the same criticism for Biden.
01:58:00.000 They unplugged Biden and plugged in Kamala.
01:58:02.000 It was really obvious that it's like NPC alert.
01:58:05.000 It can happen to anybody.
01:58:06.000 I feel like we talked about Kamala a lot because there was always this debate of if Biden was going to make it.
01:58:13.000 And then the next thing was, well, do they give it to Kamala?
01:58:15.000 No, they don't like Kamala.
01:58:16.000 And she's bad on a lot of issues.
01:58:17.000 I mean, she was like she didn't pursue interviews.
01:58:21.000 She wasn't putting herself out there, which seemed to be the Biden-Harris campaign or White House strategy.
01:58:26.000 Right.
01:58:27.000 Very.
01:58:27.000 They were actually very inaccessible to the press, both of them.
01:58:30.000 But but people were critical of her before because they always thought there was a possibility She had dominated news cycles as The Border Czar when she went down and said, do not come.
01:58:39.000 Do not come.
01:58:40.000 And then Trump goes, I'm going to come.
01:58:42.000 She said tons of viral memes roasting her and mocking her.
01:58:45.000 I think you just don't pay attention to what's going on.
01:58:47.000 No, I do.
01:58:47.000 When she takes front and stage as the Democratic nominee, you're like, why is everybody mad?
01:58:52.000 It's like, dude, we've been making fun of her and criticizing her on these things the entire time.
01:58:57.000 She's the VP.
01:58:57.000 Barely.
01:58:58.000 She would have like no weight.
01:59:00.000 And then all of a sudden now, I mean, obviously, she's a nominee.
01:59:02.000 So there's a new spotlight shined on her.
01:59:04.000 So like, but it's just, it's you can see the whole like, I'm supposed to dislike the opposing candidate mentality.
01:59:11.000 And it's no, it can become very disturbing.
01:59:14.000 You are you are just so out of touch, Ian.
01:59:16.000 Oh, well, not really.
01:59:17.000 I think I'm very aware that people sucks.
01:59:20.000 It's easy to go from Biden sucks to Kamala sucks because they both suck.
01:59:23.000 But, like, the idea that Kamala isn't casting the tie-breaking votes on the Inflation Reduction Act, which was a huge deal, to argue that when she was named border czar, and then was doing these interviews where she was like, well, I've never been to Europe, and was constantly in the press as a source of ridicule, but you aren't paying attention, so all of a sudden when the media starts talking about her because she's a front-runner for the Democrats, you're like, why is everybody mad?
01:59:45.000 Bro, people have been criticizing her for things The whole time.
01:59:49.000 Everybody deserves legitimate criticism.
01:59:50.000 It's when people just turn the vague, I dislike the opposing candidate criticism on the new candidate.
01:59:55.000 She's the VP.
01:59:56.000 Yeah.
01:59:56.000 She's the vice president.
01:59:57.000 She was going to be the VP again for Biden's second term.
01:59:59.000 And that's why people don't like her.
02:00:14.000 And that's why people don't like Okay, that's hyperbolic.
02:00:17.000 Of course, some people talked about her once in a while.
02:00:19.000 Maybe every three or four weeks, she'd get like an article that we'd even see.
02:00:23.000 And so now you're conceding the point.
02:00:26.000 And now people are like talking about her like she's been bad the whole time.
02:00:29.000 Like, okay, maybe she has.
02:00:30.000 But where was that criticism a year and a half ago?
02:00:32.000 It was everywhere.
02:00:33.000 It was not.
02:00:33.000 That's also hyperbolic.
02:00:34.000 How much do you want to put on that?
02:00:36.000 That it was everywhere, you lose instantly.
02:00:38.000 It's not everywhere.
02:00:38.000 I will do Google searches, and I will select month by month, and I can do this, and I can pull up all the news cycles she's done.
02:00:44.000 I'm talking about Twitter.
02:00:45.000 I'm talking about commentators on Twitter that I know personally that are like, now I must dislike this one.
02:00:50.000 Who's it gonna be?
02:00:51.000 Let's find out.
02:00:53.000 You're talking about a handful of people that you personally follow, but you're criticizing literally every single one.
02:00:58.000 And the people that listen to this show, people that all of a sudden it's like, now we'll slip out that name and put... like, dude.
02:01:03.000 Yeah, you're wrong.
02:01:03.000 Just be critical for specific reasons, yes, but don't just criticize someone because you want them to lose.
02:01:09.000 I remember the cycle when she said, Russia is a big country, and Ukraine is a small country.
02:01:14.000 And that was wrong to invade.
02:01:16.000 Like, she had so many news cycles that we criticized her over that she was in the press.
02:01:20.000 Now that she's running for the president, she's dominating that news coverage, sure, but the criticism people have over her is the legitimate criticism, and it's worse than Biden for the obvious reason of Biden could not sign these bills without her casting the tie-breaking vote.
02:01:33.000 She's in the Senate and in the executive branch.
02:01:35.000 She was giving a layup to Biden that he would not have gotten were she not the tie-breaker.
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02:01:54.000 Joel, do you want to shout anything out?
02:01:56.000 Well, thanks for having me back on the show.
02:01:58.000 I've been looking forward to this for a long time.
02:02:01.000 I know personally from having put Matt Gaetz and Lauren Bovert on to Tim Cass that the Tim Cass audience is super loyal.
02:02:08.000 Everyone in the chat, they're dedicated patriots and they have a lot of powerful insight to say.
02:02:14.000 And so it's interesting to learn from the audience and to come on the show and feel its impact.
02:02:18.000 It's great.
02:02:18.000 So if you want to follow me, I'll be posting behind-the-scenes stuff of what's happening on Capitol Hill, at real Joel Valdez.
02:02:25.000 But yeah, just thanks for having me back on.
02:02:28.000 I will corroborate what you say.
02:02:29.000 The people in the chat are brilliant.
02:02:30.000 A lot of the people that watch the show are really tuned into what's happening.
02:02:33.000 And I appreciate you all in the chat putting up with my dissonance.
02:02:36.000 That is a big part of what I enjoy to do is shake you up, shake myself up in the process.
02:02:41.000 Yo, I've been streaming like a f***ing madman the last two weeks.
02:02:46.000 I've been going eight hours a day.
02:02:47.000 It's epic.
02:02:47.000 So come join me on my YouTube channel, X, and Twitch, where we'll be playing video games nonstop, dude.
02:02:53.000 I'm just pouring myself into it.
02:02:54.000 It's f***ing great, dude.
02:02:56.000 It's really nice.
02:02:56.000 It's actually very, very good.
02:02:57.000 It's very fun.
02:02:59.000 Other than that, I've been playing a lot of music.
02:03:01.000 So check out my music stuff on Instagram and X, and I'll catch you later.
02:03:04.000 Ian Crossland.
02:03:05.000 Joel, I'm so glad you were here.
02:03:07.000 It's so fun to see you again.
02:03:07.000 And you are a very interesting person to talk to about their professional career.
02:03:11.000 So I'm glad you tell us a little about what you're doing these days.
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02:03:28.000 Joel's right.
02:03:28.000 You guys are an amazing crowd.
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02:03:31.000 Have a good night.
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