Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - TRUMP CHARGES DISMISSED, Federal Prosecutor May Face Criminal CHARGES w-Dudley Brown | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 The charges against Donald Trump at the federal level have been dismissed.

00:00:22.000 Jack Smith filed to drop him.

00:00:24.000 The judge agreed they're dismissed.

00:00:26.000 However, they're dismissed without prejudice, meaning it sounds like they are hoping they can charge Trump again once he leaves office.

00:00:33.000 So they may be dismissed, but they want to play ball.

00:00:36.000 Pam Bondi said she's going to prosecute the bad prosecutor.

00:00:39.000 So maybe they go after Jack Smith.

00:00:42.000 I don't know what's going to happen, but things could get particularly spicy.

00:00:45.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:00:46.000 Then we got this viral clip from Axios where the CEO is screaming about how X is not the news.

00:00:52.000 How dare you?

00:00:53.000 And everyone's making fun of them because their viewership is in the gutter.

00:00:56.000 Turns out Timcast Media is three times the size of Axios.

00:00:59.000 Sorry, guys.

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00:01:01.000 And then we've got big news.

00:01:02.000 This is actually from a week ago, but it's been getting bigger with more outlets picking up the story.

00:01:07.000 Rural counties in California and Illinois are voting to secede from their states.

00:01:11.000 Now, the biggest impact, of course, is Illinois, where 73% of people are in favor of seceding because they don't like Cook County, which is basically Chicago, which is pretty interesting.

00:01:20.000 So we'll talk about that, plus a whole bunch of other stories that should be fun.

00:01:24.000 A lot of stuff going on with Donald Trump.

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00:03:13.000 We're going to get into the deep lore of guns, because our guest here was here when it was written.

00:03:20.000 So would you like to introduce yourself, sir?

00:03:22.000 Yeah, Dudley Brown.

00:03:23.000 I'm the president of the National Association for Gun Rights.

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00:04:13.000 Yeah, man.

00:04:14.000 I'm a bit of a gun noob, so it's good to see you guys.

00:04:16.000 Have a little pre-game chat.

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00:04:18.000 Yeah, I'll be asking the layman questions, and we'll maybe suss some of this stuff out.

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00:04:37.000 And then let's jump into that news.

00:04:39.000 We got this from ABC News.

00:04:40.000 Trump election case is tossed after special counsel Jack Smith requests dismissal, citing categorical DOJ policy.

00:04:48.000 The judge left open the highly unlikely possibility of a future prosecution.

00:04:54.000 The judge overseeing Trump's election interference case dismissed the case Monday after special counsel Jack Smith asked the judge to toss the case due to longstanding DOJ policy that bars the prosecution of a sitting president.

00:05:04.000 What I find interesting here is that Trump is not the sitting president, but they're dropping the case even before he gets in.

00:05:10.000 And he's not even legally president-elect.

00:05:13.000 He's only...

00:05:14.000 He's only, I guess, in the media we call him that.

00:05:16.000 He's not president-elect until they count the Electoral College votes on January 6th, and he's not president until January 20th when he's sworn into office.

00:05:24.000 So as of right now, he's just the guy who the media says has won, and they're already dropping the cases against him.

00:05:30.000 They say Smith also asked the judge in Trump's classified documents case that his appeal against Trump's two co-defendants in that case, Walt Nauta and Carlos de Oliveira, be allowed to continue.

00:05:40.000 U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan dismissed the election interference charges against Trump without prejudice, leaving open the highly unlikely possibility of a future prosecution.

00:05:48.000 Now, here's where it gets interesting.

00:05:49.000 Pam Bondi, Trump's choice for AG, says that she has a past vow.

00:05:54.000 She will prosecute the bad prosecutors who indicted Trump.

00:05:57.000 NBC News reports in 2013, Florida Attorney General Pambani's office faced a decision whether to join investigations from other state attorneys general into Trump University, where students paid $35,000 for business classes that critics claimed were fraudulent.

00:06:10.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:06:12.000 Since then, two former state attorneys general have followed polar opposite political paths.

00:06:16.000 Let's get to the point.

00:06:17.000 Bondi spent the last decade, etc., etc.

00:06:20.000 Bondi called the prosecutors who charged Trump with crimes members of the deep state, spreading a false conspiracy theory that DOJ prosecutors and FBI agents were part of a secret cabal trying to undermine Trump.

00:06:32.000 Bondi, without citing evidence, said that since they were no longer hiding in the shadows, they can all be investigated.

00:06:37.000 Now, I love how this is an opinion piece.

00:06:39.000 NBC News loves doing that.

00:06:41.000 Heavy opinion injected into this.

00:06:43.000 Very little news other than Pam Bondi has in the past said, prosecute the bad prosecutor.

00:06:48.000 So we're all hoping.

00:06:50.000 But I will add, if they're saying outright that this is the charges being dropped without prejudice and there's a possibility of Trump being charged in the future, they are basically screaming at the top of their lungs to Trump's AG to criminally charge them.

00:07:04.000 I mean, look, I don't know.

00:07:06.000 I mean, I just want to see Pam Bomdi go after, what's his name, the special counsel, because Jack Smith, if I understand correctly, he was appointed illegally, right?

00:07:19.000 Yeah, I believe this—wasn't there a court ruling that he was not— Eligible?

00:07:24.000 Yeah, there was— I don't— Let's pull that up.

00:07:27.000 Yeah, I'm not sure what the details were, but if I understand correctly, he was appointed illegally.

00:07:35.000 The—I believe it was the Supreme Court that said that his role as special prosecutor was— There was some procedural reason that he wasn't.

00:07:44.000 But, you know, if he is not, if it's not legal, and he's been spending all this time going after President Trump, or President-elect Trump, whatever you want to call him, I would like to see this get taken out.

00:07:55.000 Because I personally don't think, I mean, regardless of your opinion on Donald Trump as a president, you know, if...

00:08:02.000 If the existing administration creates a scenario where it's just political motivation to go after a president, I mean, this is unprecedented.

00:08:13.000 It's something that has historically, you know, presidents that break the law and do things that are questionable legally, or the legality is questionable.

00:08:25.000 That's been something that, you know, Washington and the opposing party hasn't gone after presidents for.

00:08:31.000 President Obama with the drone strikes that killed American citizens.

00:08:36.000 Yeah, Judge Eileen Cannon ruled, this is back in July, that Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel was unconstitutional because he was not appointed by the president or confirmed by Congress, leading to her to dismiss the entire case.

00:08:49.000 So this is back in July.

00:08:50.000 Who was he appointed by, does that say?

00:08:52.000 By the DOJ. Right.

00:08:54.000 Yeah.

00:08:55.000 But we are losing sight of an issue here, though, because the core issue we're talking about is the claims of fraud, that the 2020 election was stolen.

00:09:07.000 And should that be, should it be taboo to question and make wild claims about a stolen election?

00:09:18.000 Yeah.

00:09:20.000 I don't know.

00:09:20.000 I don't know where the loss is.

00:09:22.000 There has to be.

00:09:22.000 You have to be able to.

00:09:24.000 Well, you have to be able to question it, but should you be able to make any claim you want and not have to prove it?

00:09:31.000 And in the case of a sitting president, who at the time anyway was sitting and was calling, we know he was calling a secretary of state in Georgia and saying, can you find 8,200 votes?

00:09:46.000 Find me 8,200 votes or whatever it was.

00:09:50.000 Yeah, that does...

00:09:51.000 Basically what it does is it degrades our faith in institutions.

00:09:56.000 And without faith in institutions, we are not a country.

00:09:58.000 We are not.

00:10:00.000 I'd argue that we're not a country when the Supreme Court refused to issue a ruling on Texas v.

00:10:04.000 Pennsylvania when Texas was challenging under original jurisdiction whether or not Pennsylvania violated the Constitution by altering the rules of an election outside the legislature. 0.78

00:10:12.000 And the Supreme Court said, we're a bunch of cowards who won't look into this.

00:10:15.000 And only Thomas and Alito had the gall to actually say, well, this is our jurisdiction. 0.84

00:10:19.000 We need to answer this question.

00:10:20.000 Yeah.

00:10:20.000 Because of that.

00:10:21.000 So you can argue that I think it's fair to say, you know, we've got one side that's arguing Trump was wrong.

00:10:27.000 He shouldn't have done this.

00:10:28.000 I say, sure.

00:10:28.000 The other side says, well, Trump has to do this.

00:10:30.000 I agree that any anyone who questions an election has an absolute right and duty.

00:10:36.000 Especially a president to investigate or push in all facets the challenges under the law.

00:10:41.000 But when the courts start throwing out every challenge on standing so we don't actually get rulings and the Supreme Court refuses to actually hear the challenges when we see states where judges and governors were changing election rules.

00:10:51.000 Then you're going to get absolute chaos.

00:10:54.000 Because if you go to the courts and you actually argue on the merits, the judges didn't do this, they threw them out on standing for the most part, meaning, oh, we don't think that Trump has standing in this, he's not party to the damages.

00:11:07.000 Then what ends up happening is one side says, we are not being heard, and the election was rigged.

00:11:14.000 That's the only conclusion they're going to make.

00:11:15.000 But hasn't Trump already said that he did lose 2020?

00:11:21.000 He just recently said that.

00:11:22.000 No.

00:11:23.000 During the debate, he was challenged on that and then he snapped.

00:11:26.000 It was like, what?

00:11:26.000 No, I never said that.

00:11:27.000 I said it was stolen.

00:11:28.000 It was stolen.

00:11:29.000 And that was actually a point of contention in the debate because they said Trump started – it's this trap that they've laid for Trump consistently in the press where they want him to yell about the previous election instead of this current one.

00:11:43.000 Trump – Ranted on it and said, I didn't lose.

00:11:46.000 I didn't lose.

00:11:47.000 And then finally went, I don't want to talk about the past anymore and decided to move on.

00:11:51.000 Which actually, I don't want to talk about the past.

00:11:53.000 Wish that had happened much earlier.

00:11:55.000 I mean, it worked out.

00:11:56.000 But the fact was, we've got to stop prosecuting this 2020. I mean, we all agree that there should be election integrity and we've got to make the efforts to do it.

00:12:05.000 But just literally talking about destroying the institutions completely and saying we need to terminate the Constitution is not the way a conservative should have.

00:12:16.000 I don't think Trump ever said he wants to terminate the Constitution.

00:12:19.000 I mean, well, he's a little wishy-washy on when it comes to fidelity to the Constitution.

00:12:27.000 But, I mean, look, the argument...

00:12:30.000 I think that the argument that Trump would make or was making that the 2020 election was novel because of COVID, because of the way things that went, because of a lot of things that went down, it was completely and totally different from any other election in history.

00:12:46.000 I don't think that anyone is going to argue that it was normal.

00:12:49.000 The fact that there was so much ballot harvesting, that there were ballots mailed out to people based just on the census, right?

00:12:58.000 And so all those things change the way that the election, the results of the election.

00:13:03.000 And so whether or not Trump articulates properly the arguments that he's making, because the guy never articulates arguments properly.

00:13:12.000 He's talking with his gut, and that's how people hear him, too.

00:13:15.000 And how he connects with people.

00:13:17.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:13:17.000 That's what resonates.

00:13:18.000 That's what resonates with us.

00:13:19.000 It does.

00:13:19.000 Exactly.

00:13:19.000 And so, fair enough, people that are going to go ahead and look at the letter of the law, they're going to say, Trump said this, and he said that, and it was wrong, and blah, blah, blah.

00:13:26.000 They're probably right.

00:13:27.000 But the fact of the matter is, everyone does agree that because of COVID and because of the way the election was, it was a novel election.

00:13:35.000 And for Trump to say, look, find me the votes because I know they're there, that's not saying go create votes.

00:13:42.000 That's saying go count...

00:13:43.000 And they did find votes later on.

00:13:45.000 They were like, oh look, a USB with a bunch of votes on it.

00:13:47.000 But that's besides the point.

00:13:49.000 So Trump never called for the termination of the Constitution.

00:13:51.000 This is a lie from the corporate press.

00:13:53.000 CNN runs the headline.

00:13:55.000 Check this out.

00:13:55.000 This is hilarious.

00:13:56.000 Trump calls for termination of Constitution in Truth Social Post.

00:13:59.000 Of course, the people who then don't follow the media, who don't follow news, just see the headline and believe it's true.

00:14:06.000 What Trump actually said, quote, Do you throw out the presidential election results of 2020 out?

00:14:13.000 Do you throw the presidential election results of 2020 out and declare the rightful winner, or do you have a new election?

00:14:17.000 A massive fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.

00:14:24.000 Then big tech, blah, blah, blah.

00:14:26.000 So the issue there is, this is not news, this is an opinion piece.

00:14:29.000 Real news would say Donald Trump made a statement about fraud in the election and what it and what it could result in.

00:14:36.000 They would then go on to say, well, some in the Democratic Party are saying this is Trump calling for the termination of the Constitution.

00:14:41.000 Others are pointing out Trump is saying that should there be a fraud, the rules have been thrown out.

00:14:47.000 And this allows people to to navigate beyond the Constitution.

00:14:50.000 He never called specifically for doing it.

00:14:52.000 They just lied.

00:14:52.000 Because CNN is opinion and not fact.

00:14:55.000 When it comes to having faith in the institution, I agree it's important, but I think it's also legal for people to lie, politicians to lie.

00:15:03.000 And if they say there's fraud when there's no fraud, I'm pretty sure it's legal to do that.

00:15:08.000 And since, you know, politicians lie, I lose faith in the industry.

00:15:12.000 I can't do this, dude.

00:15:13.000 Liz Cheney.

00:15:14.000 This is an article from 22. Donald Trump believes we should terminate, quote, all rules.

00:15:18.000 He never said that.

00:15:20.000 Imagine if I said it like this.

00:15:22.000 Section 230 allows for people to post obscene, disgusting, far-left psychotic content on social media and throw out all norms as it pertains to free speech.

00:15:32.000 Is that me calling for the overturning of free speech?

00:15:35.000 Of course not.

00:15:35.000 And that's what they do.

00:15:36.000 Whenever Trump says something, and by all means, I'm not going to defend Trump on him having accurately articulated anything pertaining to the 2020 election.

00:15:46.000 He gets criticized right now because he went on Joe Rogan, and when Rogan asked him about what happened in 2020, he didn't really have much to say.

00:15:51.000 But I digress.

00:15:53.000 They run these smears, and you know what?

00:15:55.000 All that matters is he won the popular vote because people have seen through Liz and Dick Cheney's BS and the corporate press screaming and crying about how they're the real press and no one else is, but in reality, they're just lying the whole time.

00:16:09.000 Well, it didn't hurt that he was running against someone who had run a coup against...

00:16:14.000 Against the sitting president, Joe Biden, and had 107 days to campaign and was a horrible candidate.

00:16:23.000 And frankly, I think he...

00:16:24.000 When you throw somebody in sideways, you know...

00:16:26.000 That did not hurt.

00:16:28.000 But I agree with you.

00:16:29.000 He resonated with people unlike anybody expected.

00:16:35.000 And...

00:16:36.000 And to the point that Dudley was making earlier, you can be critical of President Trump, but when you factor in the things like the novel election and stuff, it makes it really hard to say, okay, yes, Trump has to follow the letter of the law, but everything else is...

00:16:58.000 The borders are kind of fuzzy, or the distinction between legal and illegal, or following procedure and not following procedure.

00:17:05.000 If all of those situations are all fuzzy and kinda, and you're not sure, and blah blah blah, then when it comes to Trump, everything is, it must be the letter of the law exactly, blah blah blah, he said this, and that alludes to this, and blah blah blah.

00:17:18.000 Then you're going to have people that look at the situation and they say, well, I don't trust either side.

00:17:24.000 You know, I don't believe that either side actually has honesty as their goal.

00:17:29.000 There were a lot of claims about 2020, and I just, you know, largely say, I don't know, you know.

00:17:33.000 I think it was just, you know, ballot harvesting.

00:17:35.000 The funny thing is that article says that, you know, Pam Bondi was alluding to some kind of secret cabal or whatever.

00:17:41.000 But as we know, it was Time Magazine that actually coined the phrase shadow campaign.

00:17:48.000 Yeah.

00:17:48.000 And I think they actually referred to it as a cabal, didn't they?

00:17:51.000 They did.

00:17:52.000 So let's...

00:17:53.000 Cabal.

00:17:53.000 When I read that...

00:17:54.000 Yes, they did.

00:17:54.000 They said a well-funded cabal of powerful people were conspiring.

00:17:57.000 They literally say...

00:17:59.000 Conspiracy.

00:18:01.000 So Time Magazine wrote this article, Molly Ball did, and I love bringing it up because this just refutes so much of what they were saying.

00:18:06.000 The secret history, the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election, where they say a conspiracy was unfolding where a well-funded cabal was engaging in electioneering, blah, blah, blah.

00:18:17.000 Journalism at its finest.

00:18:18.000 When I read this, I was blown away that they actually printed it because I'm like, this is coming out and literally admitting to doing everything they can to rig the election, right?

00:18:30.000 That's the way that it reads, all of the verbiage they use and stuff like that.

00:18:35.000 And I sent it to some of my left-leaning friends, and of course they're like, well, that's just politics.

00:18:41.000 I'm like, then what the hell do I care about?

00:18:44.000 About if Donald Trump is saying, oh, find me the votes, because they're there.

00:18:48.000 He wasn't saying, find me the votes, as in create them.

00:18:51.000 And it becomes really hard.

00:18:53.000 Again, like I said earlier, it becomes really hard for me to think, oh, well, you know, Donald Trump has to be squeaky clean and write to the letter of the law when Time magazine publishes this and everyone on the left says...

00:19:07.000 Oh, well.

00:19:08.000 If that's the case, it's like, up yours, man.

00:19:11.000 I think they just act smug and say...

00:19:12.000 Yeah.

00:19:14.000 We're in power.

00:19:15.000 This is February 4th, 2021. It is just after the inauguration, well before the criminal charges against Trump pertaining to January 6th or anything like that, they were writing articles where they outright...

00:19:27.000 I should say, Democrats and their allies in media had published an article where they outright explained that they engaged in a conspiracy.

00:19:35.000 Their words...

00:19:37.000 Conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes.

00:19:39.000 Resistance CEOs and powerful unions and a shadowy cabal.

00:19:45.000 And then Donald Trump's like, maybe we should investigate the election.

00:19:48.000 And they're like, lock him up.

00:19:50.000 FLCIO is not what we'd call a right-wing cabal, nor is the Chamber of Compromise.

00:19:57.000 But back to the original point about a potential AG coming in and wiping the slate clean and saying, all right, I'm going to prosecute these people for what they've done.

00:20:13.000 Let's shine some light on the rats and see what happens.

00:20:17.000 Yes.

00:20:18.000 Now you're talking my language, doesn't it?

00:20:20.000 Let's put lawfare over.

00:20:24.000 We feel like a banana republic because we've seen these using the judicial system to prosecute people and put your political opponents in jail rather than just beating them in an election.

00:20:37.000 You know, the issue I have with targeting Jack Smith with lawfare is that he got appointed illegally.

00:20:46.000 It wasn't him.

00:20:47.000 I mean, technically, once he was appointed, he was doing something illegal.

00:20:49.000 But the people that appointed him should be investigated.

00:20:51.000 Like whoever that was at the DOJ that appointed an illegal special counsel should be investigated.

00:20:56.000 Multilayer accountability.

00:20:57.000 Sure, it's Merrick Garland.

00:20:58.000 I mean, who else?

00:20:59.000 The individual himself, but each of those layers that ultimately contributed to the end state.

00:21:03.000 The man who's not a Supreme Court justice, Merrick Garland.

00:21:07.000 That's how you should refer to him all the time.

00:21:10.000 Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.

00:21:12.000 Axios CEO goes on tirade, labeling Elon Musk's declaration that citizens are the media now as BS. I love this because the dude is just absolutely losing his mind, and it's fun to watch.

00:21:25.000 Got any popcorn?

00:21:26.000 Oh, it's on MSNBC. I want some popcorn here for this.

00:21:29.000 Where's the audio?

00:21:30.000 We got no sound.

00:21:31.000 Is it muted?

00:21:32.000 What's going on?

00:21:33.000 We just have no sound.

00:21:35.000 Give me the sound.

00:21:38.000 Mute it. 0.65

00:21:38.000 Oh, there we go. 0.65

00:21:39.000 I see.

00:21:40.000 Nope.

00:21:40.000 Sound is just...

00:21:41.000 We just don't have sound.

00:21:42.000 Have you tried the ONOFX? Twitter, everything we do is under fire.

00:21:47.000 Elon Musk sits on Twitter every day or X today saying like, we are the media.

00:21:53.000 You are the media. 0.99

00:21:55.000 My message to Elon Musk is, bulls**t! 1.00

00:21:57.000 You're not the media! 1.00

00:21:59.000 Yeah, we are, primal.

00:22:00.000 You having a blue checkmark, a Twitter handle, and 300 words of cleverness doesn't make you a reporter.

00:22:12.000 You don't do that by popping off on Twitter.

00:22:15.000 You don't do that by having an opinion.

00:22:18.000 You do it by doing the hard work.

00:22:22.000 What hard work are you doing there, buddy?

00:22:25.000 Tim, this is really like the candle makers being furious at light bulbs.

00:22:33.000 They are so far behind the swing here.

00:22:38.000 Do they not know that their occupation is basically dead?

00:22:42.000 There's a great line in iRobot, because I watched it a couple weeks ago, and Will Smith's character is talking to the CEO, and he's like, your robots are bad, basically.

00:22:50.000 And he was like, I got a commercial idea for you.

00:22:52.000 It's a carpenter working really hard to make a birdhouse, and the robot comes in and does it better, and then you call it, you know, our company ishing on a little guy.

00:22:59.000 And the guy says, you're the kind of person that would ban the internet to save libraries.

00:23:04.000 And that's what I see with this guy in the corporate press.

00:23:07.000 The issue is, they're not the media.

00:23:10.000 What does it mean to be the media?

00:23:12.000 Did he say, you're not the news?

00:23:14.000 Let's play that again.

00:23:15.000 Thank you.

00:23:16.000 My first question was going to be, we are the media.

00:23:20.000 You are the media. 0.99

00:23:22.000 My message to Elon Musk is, bulls**t! 1.00

00:23:25.000 You're not the media! 0.99

00:23:27.000 Hold on, and that's the important distinction.

00:23:29.000 He didn't say news.

00:23:30.000 No, exactly.

00:23:30.000 He didn't say they're doing fact-checking.

00:23:31.000 He's saying, we are the elites who control the broadcast towers, and the little people, the rabble, are not allowed to speak up. 1.00

00:23:38.000 That's what he's saying.

00:23:39.000 Well, the age of internet video, you are the media.

00:23:42.000 You are your own producer.

00:23:43.000 You are your own creator.

00:23:44.000 And media is much more than news and journalism.

00:23:47.000 You make a song and you put it on the internet.

00:23:49.000 That's a piece of media.

00:23:50.000 You control your media now.

00:23:52.000 Well, look at that picture.

00:23:54.000 He's standing at the National Press Club.

00:23:57.000 And doesn't that strike anybody as weird?

00:23:59.000 It's the Press Club.

00:24:00.000 Why is it the press?

00:24:01.000 Because they were pressing ink on paper.

00:24:04.000 Yeah.

00:24:05.000 That's how far back we are talking about.

00:24:08.000 You can say, oh, it's tradition.

00:24:10.000 No, these are dinosaurs who are extinct and they don't know it.

00:24:14.000 They don't understand the nuance and energy that goes into some of this content creation that you have now that's bringing reality to people's faces when the media, mainstream media, whatever you want to define that as, is, right?

00:24:26.000 So the effort, like you alluded to, to produce your own content, set up your own studio, fund your own studio.

00:24:32.000 I mean, I'm in one right now that has kind of built itself.

00:24:36.000 What work is he talking about that's not there for that?

00:24:38.000 Funker's an example.

00:24:40.000 You guys put like head cams on soldiers, well, you don't do it, but head cams on soldiers, body cams.

00:24:46.000 So we send our team members into conflict zones, right?

00:24:50.000 I mean, we're a step beyond that.

00:24:53.000 I'm talking about more of the people that try to provide that expert nuance on things, where you'll have this media segment that's like a four-minute-long hit on such a nuanced topic like war.

00:25:04.000 You really need these creators in spaces that are available, like Twitter, to really provide the additional context and nuance necessary to distill something like that, because...

00:25:14.000 Watching the news, you can ingest the entirety of the news, but being able to then digest that information, do you have enough context and nuance to do that?

00:25:22.000 I don't think you do, because again, and I've done some of these spots, it's a four minute.

00:25:26.000 You get four minutes to relay your information.

00:25:27.000 The fascinating thing about this guy losing his mind is that I'm like, bro, it's been 14 years.

00:25:33.000 Right?

00:25:34.000 X has been around for a long time, Twitter at the time.

00:25:37.000 And I remember during the Arab Spring, and then during the Spain, what was it, like an M24 movement was called, and then of course Occupy Wall Street.

00:25:45.000 Everybody was using Twitter to report and relay information.

00:25:48.000 And the news media at the time was saying, look at this social media, citizen journalism.

00:25:53.000 Now, the funny thing is, these people lost their minds, and to this day, they still don't know what citizen journalism is.

00:25:59.000 And I'll give you the distinction because this is important. 0.94

00:26:01.000 The only reason anybody gets the definition of citizen journalist wrong is because scumbags like this guy and the elites who face losing their job want to make sure they disparage and discredit an independent media. 0.93

00:26:14.000 Citizen journalism... 0.96

00:26:15.000 Is this.

00:26:16.000 A guy is walking his dog.

00:26:18.000 A car crashes and he pulls out his phone and he films it.

00:26:20.000 He uploads the video.

00:26:22.000 He walks home with his dog.

00:26:23.000 He never engages in journalism again.

00:26:26.000 Citizen journalism was coined as a reference to regular people posting video and photos to the internet.

00:26:32.000 However, what ends up happening is we now have on X... And we've had for some time now, but now it's getting particularly more prominent, especially with the ability to make money, accounts that exist solely for the purpose of reporting news.

00:26:43.000 That would just be a journalist, a regular journalist.

00:26:46.000 Mario Knopfel, for instance, a guy who has a team, they collect information, they disseminate it on Twitter.

00:26:51.000 He's got RNX, he's got a big show.

00:26:52.000 This is a guy who is not a citizen journalist, but the corporate press has long called any independent personality citizen journalist.

00:27:00.000 Because in these circles, in the press club and at these events like News Exchange, they all understand that to mean these people are not journalists.

00:27:09.000 They accidentally are reporting news.

00:27:11.000 So that's why when I hear people using their language, I reject.

00:27:15.000 I say that's not what citizen journalism is.

00:27:16.000 And I'm proud to say that 11 years or 13 years ago, I went to or this is 11 or 12 years ago.

00:27:23.000 I went to News Exchange in Morocco and I sat in front of a crowd of several thousand journalists.

00:27:27.000 And I said they should all be fired from their jobs, every single one of them, because they have no idea how to use technology.

00:27:31.000 And they're reporting an archaic means.

00:27:33.000 in archaic ways that do not reach regular people.

00:27:35.000 And here we are, finally, this guy is now screaming having figured it out.

00:27:39.000 But I love it, because there's another moment I want to shout out.

00:27:43.000 It was Black Hat, I believe.

00:27:45.000 The Hacker Convention, much more corporate than DEF CON, but they happened around the same time.

00:27:49.000 And there were these, like, powerful...

00:27:52.000 There was a...

00:27:53.000 Some panel was happening on digital media, social media.

00:27:56.000 And the people who run these big companies, there were a couple people on a panel.

00:28:00.000 Someone asked in the audience, why should we care what you have to say?

00:28:03.000 We can get information from regular people on social media.

00:28:06.000 And they lost their minds.

00:28:08.000 Dude, it's about time these dinosaurs accept that they are trying to ban the internet to save libraries.

00:28:14.000 The situation that he neglects to even address is the fact that the corporate media failed miserably during COVID. That's a big reason why you see podcasts and you see new media or whatever you want to call it be so influential and have such an impact.

00:28:34.000 If the corporate media hadn't been the lapdog Of the established government, if the CDC had been telling the truth to the media, or the media had been pushing back as opposed to doing exactly what the government said they should do, then they might be in a position to say, no, we're necessary.

00:28:54.000 They might be in a position to say, the service that we provide is valuable.

00:28:59.000 But they were a literal arm of the government.

00:29:02.000 They were a propaganda machine.

00:29:03.000 And they did whatever the government said.

00:29:07.000 There was so much pushback about the idea that it came from China.

00:29:12.000 Just saying that it came from China would get you called racist and stuff.

00:29:15.000 And I'm not going to get into the many things that turned out to be untrue during COVID. But The fact that the media was doing exactly what the government wanted them to do and they did it because they wanted the access to the government and they wanted to know that they would get a cushy job or they would be able to get someone's home phone number so they could get the scoop, so they could get the information out to the population.

00:29:43.000 Fastest.

00:29:44.000 And they totally abdicated their initial job, which was to hold powerful people accountable.

00:29:53.000 They became just a propaganda arm, and they totally missed the whole point of their existence. 0.85

00:30:02.000 So for them to say now that they're upset that the new media, that other sources are out there, is absolutely ridiculous. 0.90

00:30:11.000 This is just them... 0.79

00:30:12.000 He's chanting, look at me, because you people are ignoring me.

00:30:16.000 As Tim said, Axios is what?

00:30:19.000 How big?

00:30:21.000 Compared to Timcast?

00:30:23.000 Someone posted a report, they do like 24 million per month.

00:30:26.000 I'm like, wow, that's crazy.

00:30:27.000 We do like 70 to 80. From a certain perspective, though, right?

00:30:30.000 So my military background is in information operations, right?

00:30:34.000 So I also see an open-ended platform like this as kind of a goldmine if I was still performing that function from a dissemination perspective.

00:30:41.000 As a dissemination medium...

00:30:44.000 Something without checks and balances from a level of expertise, what you're really looking at is the opportunity to really shape narratives in whichever direction you want with some false sense of expertise, right?

00:30:55.000 So you'll have these anonymous Twitter accounts, X accounts, excuse me, kind of posing as some level of expert on a topic, when in actuality what you're really seeing is something regurgitated with a couple words changed.

00:31:09.000 So where exactly the balance is to that, you know, I'm not really nuanced or eloquent enough to understand, but I do know that when I look at something like this, I see a breeding ground for misinformation, disinformation, stuff like that, and you can't say that that's not there, and the design is that the community is supposed to weed that out, but what's going to need to happen over time is it's going to take time, right?

00:31:31.000 Rather than being told somebody is an expert and presenting bona fides, over time you'll have to eventually You know, as a society, weed out those accounts.

00:31:40.000 Yeah, we've got community notes.

00:31:41.000 That's a really good stab at that.

00:31:43.000 And it's kind of like saying, reality is a breeding ground for murder.

00:31:47.000 And how do we navigate around the way of laws?

00:31:49.000 And we have rules and social morals.

00:31:51.000 Because it is.

00:31:52.000 Real life is a breeding ground for all the horrible things that can happen in real life.

00:31:56.000 We've just tempered it so that it's very unlikely for it to occur.

00:32:00.000 And it's the same thing with disinformation on social media.

00:32:02.000 The level of anonymity opportunity is...

00:32:05.000 Orders of magnitude higher when it's, you know, you can just throw up an anime profile pic and then, you know, make broad-ranging claims on topics that you don't necessarily have the expertise yourself, but if it's confident, right?

00:32:19.000 So, you know, those that have studied communication...

00:32:22.000 ...styles know that delivery of information confidently increases the likelihood that somebody's going to believe what you're saying, right?

00:32:29.000 So if you deliver that information confidently and it seems to be contrary to what a wider opinion is, then those of us that are open-minded, myself included, are going to pay a little bit of attention to that, but what we can't see is the orders of magnitude below that, or beyond that, where the origin of the information is coming from.

00:32:49.000 Let's jump to this story from Reuters.

00:32:51.000 Trump pledges 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico, deeper tariffs on China.

00:32:58.000 So this story was breaking just a few hours ago.

00:32:59.000 Donald Trump posted, On January 20th, as one of the many first executive orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% tariff on all products coming into the United States and its ridiculous open borders.

00:33:13.000 Trump said the tariffs would remain in place until the two countries clamp down on drugs, particularly fentanyl, and migrants crossing the border illegally.

00:33:20.000 On China, the president-elect accused Beijing of not taking strong enough action to stop the flow of illicit drugs crossing the U.S. border into the U.S. from Mexico.

00:33:28.000 Until such time as they stop, we will be charging China an additional 10% tariff above any additional tariffs on all of their many products coming into the United States, Trump said.

00:33:37.000 Trump has previously pledged to end China's most favored nation trading status and slap tariffs on Chinese imports in excess of 60%, much higher than those imposed during the first term.

00:33:47.000 I gotta say, based AF, I'm very excited for this, and I look forward to seeing how it plays out.

00:33:52.000 Wow.

00:33:54.000 Am I the worst case scenario?

00:33:56.000 They raised the price of everything by 25%?

00:34:00.000 That's right.

00:34:00.000 Yeah, nothing could go wrong with that.

00:34:03.000 I mean, inflation?

00:34:04.000 Anybody familiar with inflation?

00:34:06.000 So I was really critical of Trump in his first term when everyone was talking about a trade war.

00:34:13.000 And the trade war never materialized.

00:34:15.000 We never had the negative consequences that we were told were going to happen when Donald Trump gets into office and there's a trade war.

00:34:23.000 Because the trade war never happened.

00:34:26.000 So the complaints about these tariffs is just first-ordered thinking.

00:34:31.000 What's going to happen?

00:34:32.000 Mexico and Canada are going to say, please, for the love of God, no.

00:34:35.000 What do we have to do to stop this?

00:34:36.000 And then Trump's going to say, I want these concessions, and then the tariffs never materialize.

00:34:40.000 The concessions should be that Alberta becomes greater Montana.

00:34:47.000 I like that idea.

00:34:49.000 It's beautiful, man.

00:34:50.000 I just got back from a trip up there, dude.

00:34:52.000 It's awesome.

00:34:53.000 Well, the big problem is that if they don't materialize, fine.

00:34:58.000 It's a trade negotiation.

00:35:00.000 But we have imposed tariffs.

00:35:03.000 It's one of the many factors that drove inflation.

00:35:07.000 You look at Chinese goods and whether they're almost anything you buy from over there, which if you say you don't buy them, you've got a phone in front of you.

00:35:18.000 Sure.

00:35:19.000 Sorry, you do.

00:35:19.000 Well, this is made in Korea.

00:35:21.000 Okay.

00:35:22.000 I think actually iPhones are China and I think Androids, well, actually some Androids are made in China.

00:35:31.000 And ViewSonic, who makes those monitors.

00:35:34.000 Oh, it's all China. 1.00

00:35:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:35:35.000 But...

00:35:38.000 Of course, the negotiation and trying to close the borders down and make sure we're holding tight.

00:35:45.000 But, sorry, I'm not a tariffs guy, and I never have been.

00:35:48.000 And no Austrian economist will make that argument.

00:35:53.000 Sorry.

00:35:54.000 And look, I have a lot of libertarian leanings in my past.

00:35:59.000 There was a time where I called myself a libertarian, and that's exactly how I thought of it when they were talking about the trade war.

00:36:05.000 I was like, this is bad news.

00:36:06.000 All the people that I listen to and read stuff about, they all said this is a bad deal.

00:36:11.000 And like I said, it never materialized.

00:36:13.000 So all I can say is, when the first time I was thinking, oh, this is what the Austrians tell me, and I agree...

00:36:24.000 Maybe.

00:36:25.000 And I was wrong, and I was proven to be wrong.

00:36:28.000 So, again, I'm not an economist, and I don't know what's going to happen, but I would at the very least say, I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt this time, because it was fine last time.

00:36:37.000 Let's start here.

00:36:37.000 Do you know how skateboards are made?

00:36:39.000 No.

00:36:40.000 Not a skateboard expert, that's for sure.

00:36:41.000 Just because we make skateboards, and I've been skateboarding my whole life, I know this.

00:36:46.000 Skateboards are made of North American rock maple, either coming from the U.S., usually from Canada, or They don't make the skateboards here.

00:36:55.000 They take the wood, they chop the trees down, put them on big shipping containers and send them to China, where Chinese laborers for dirt slave labor costs turn them into skateboards, then putting on big cargo ships and sending them back to the United States. 0.94

00:37:06.000 I never understood why that made sense.

00:37:08.000 That's actually consuming more energy and more wasteful.

00:37:10.000 But it's okay because the Chinese laborers work for 50 cents an hour. 1.00

00:37:14.000 So you can get a skateboard for cheaper so long as it's made by Chinese slave labor. 1.00

00:37:19.000 The problem, the American companies that used to make skateboards go out of business, and now people can't afford skateboards anymore.

00:37:24.000 Skateboards end up costing $80 for a pro model where they used to cost $55.

00:37:28.000 And it's because the companies that used to make them locally and could get them to you easily and the people whose lives were sustained and supported doing it.

00:37:35.000 Lives were sustained in support of doing it.

00:37:37.000 So what really, really bothers me largely about the shipping off of skateboarding manufacturing to China is that basically skateboarding is dead in this country.

00:37:44.000 What is now an Olympic sport, which used to be a massive multi-billion dollar industry, is watching massive collapse across the board.

00:37:44.000 What is now an Olympic sport, which used to be a massive multibillion dollar industry, is watching massive collapse across the board.

00:37:51.000 One of the reasons, I think, is that all of it was outsourced to China.

00:37:54.000 The people who worked in the industry, who would make the products, lost their jobs.

00:37:59.000 Now they're not working in skateboarding, advocating for skateboarding, doing sponsorships and promos.

00:38:04.000 They're just out of work.

00:38:05.000 Ain't no Chinese factory is going to come to the United States and put on a skate demo for kids to get them to buy skateboards.

00:38:10.000 So what ends up happening is all of these factories start going under.

00:38:13.000 And now our culture, our economy and everything is worse off for it.

00:38:17.000 It's an addiction.

00:38:17.000 And I say we put 100 percent tariff on all of these goods and force the factories to come back.

00:38:23.000 So when we make skateboards over at boonieshq.com, they are all made in America. 0.97

00:38:27.000 And that means our profit margins are smaller, but we still sell the boards for $55, whereas the other people who are making them in China sell them for more.

00:38:35.000 And, you know, I'll say that we try.

00:38:38.000 We try.

00:38:39.000 But...

00:38:40.000 I'm asking, you know, all of these guys in the industry, why is it that the industry has collapsed?

00:38:44.000 And this is just one example.

00:38:46.000 So you see the auto industry flee Michigan and they start opening plants in Mexico.

00:38:51.000 Donald Trump, this is Michael Moore's famous speech, comes in and he says, Donald Trump goes to the auto manufacturers and says, I'm going to slap a 30% tariff on all your vehicles and no one will ever buy them again.

00:39:00.000 It was the first time someone had stood up for the autoworkers in the Rust Belt.

00:39:04.000 When Donald Trump got elected in his first term, what did he do?

00:39:07.000 He did put those...

00:39:09.000 I don't know if he put tariffs down, but we ended up seeing a $3 billion reinvestment from these trade restrictions into Michigan to bring back autoworker jobs.

00:39:19.000 Donald Trump loses.

00:39:20.000 Joe Biden gets in.

00:39:21.000 What's the first thing that happens?

00:39:22.000 That factory leaves once again.

00:39:23.000 And now the autoworkers are under an EV mandate and they're starting to lose their jobs because nobody wants to buy these things.

00:39:28.000 And what happens to these people?

00:39:30.000 Now, I'm not going to sit here and say...

00:39:32.000 You know, that workers and unions, whatever, are guaranteed work when technology is shifting or changing, but you're not going to do it by government mandate, and shipping off factories to foreign countries doesn't make any sense.

00:39:43.000 Okay, so, but, and this is a little out of my lane.

00:39:46.000 I'm a gun lobbyist, right?

00:39:48.000 But I studied economics, and I consider myself an Austrian, a big fan of Ludwig von Mises, and And a lot of libertarian friends love to school me on that world.

00:40:00.000 I'm a free trader, and all it ends up doing is hurting the consumer.

00:40:05.000 Phil, you say, oh no, I didn't see anything wrong.

00:40:08.000 I'll bet you two years ago you were complaining about inflation.

00:40:12.000 It doesn't happen immediately.

00:40:14.000 This stuff is a cascading effect.

00:40:16.000 The trade war never materialized.

00:40:18.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:40:18.000 He was saying that he was going to start a trade war, and that was used as a big ask.

00:40:24.000 And then the trade war never actually materialized.

00:40:26.000 He wasn't even saying that.

00:40:27.000 The media was claiming it was a trade war.

00:40:29.000 The trade war is a loaded term, but you notice that the Biden administration kept the same tariffs.

00:40:36.000 They didn't even get rid of them, so they agree.

00:40:41.000 To me, it's exactly what the unions want us to do.

00:40:44.000 It's a great way to destroy economies.

00:40:46.000 I don't know the skateboard industry.

00:40:49.000 But look, you're saying you're producing skateboards that are cheaper than the ones in China.

00:40:54.000 No, no.

00:40:55.000 That's incorrect.

00:40:56.000 We are losing profits.

00:40:58.000 Sacrificing to make sure we can try and revive a dead industry and bring back the jobs that were lost. 0.99

00:41:03.000 Because these scumbags, these companies, they don't care about the long-term. 0.99

00:41:07.000 They're addicted to short-term gains. 1.00

00:41:08.000 And they think to themselves, because I've talked to these companies, and they say, look, just do the China board.

00:41:13.000 You got Chinese slave labor, 10 bucks a board. 0.98

00:41:15.000 You can sell them for 70 bucks.

00:41:16.000 You'll make 60 bucks a board.

00:41:17.000 And I say, then what happens to the shops?

00:41:19.000 What happens to the factories in the United States?

00:41:21.000 Why are we sending wood from Canada to China to make a board to send it back here?

00:41:25.000 And they're like, because the Chinese will do it for 50 cents. 0.99

00:41:27.000 And I'm like, I want people who are specialists who say, I can make a skateboard.

00:41:33.000 I know how to take the wood.

00:41:34.000 I know how to put it in the press.

00:41:35.000 I can cut it and we can innovate.

00:41:37.000 Instead, what ends up happening is all these shops go out of business.

00:41:40.000 All of these factories go out of business and they struggle to keep up.

00:41:42.000 All because... 0.98

00:41:44.000 These greedy short-term morons are like, I'm going to make 50 bucks per board this year, and then four years, five years, six years later, there's no one to buy skateboards anymore. 0.99

00:41:54.000 And now we're wondering why it is the biggest media outlets in skateboarding have collapsed, why pro skateboarders are now destitute, and it's because they sold off the industry to China, where all the garbage clothing is made, the brands have died, it's all centralized under one Walmart, no offense to Walmart, it's not Walmart specifically, but a corporate generic garbage brand. 0.99

00:42:11.000 I don't want to live in that world.

00:42:12.000 We need local factories that can compete, that are able to...

00:42:17.000 And they can't compete with China. 0.96

00:42:18.000 It's impossible.

00:42:20.000 Americans have standards of living.

00:42:21.000 We have rent we got to pay.

00:42:22.000 We got health care bills.

00:42:23.000 And the Chinese don't get any of that. 1.00

00:42:24.000 So here we are saying, who cares if this Chinese labor at Foxconn, where these phones are made, are walking off a building committing mass suicide? 0.69

00:42:32.000 That's the American consumer saying, we don't care.

00:42:34.000 I care.

00:42:35.000 And you know what?

00:42:36.000 Sometimes there's got to be some hard asks and some big asks.

00:42:39.000 I don't think these tariffs manifest.

00:42:41.000 They may, but so what?

00:42:43.000 I don't care.

00:42:43.000 Force these companies back.

00:42:45.000 The idea that the United States is dependent upon China for all of this, and it's only because the American consumer doesn't care that Chinese people commit suicide in mass at Foxconn Labs. 0.91

00:42:54.000 That's the only reason.

00:42:56.000 So when you've got 16 people crammed into a dorm with four beds, and we're like, what do we care?

00:43:01.000 It's cheap for us.

00:43:02.000 Maybe we should be like, this is not the way the economy should be functioning, and we should bring jobs back here. 1.00

00:43:07.000 The other principal issue is, what we're basically doing is extracting the economy and giving it to our adversaries. 0.66

00:43:13.000 All of this money being sent to China, even if it is 50 cents on the dollar or on the hour, for these laborers means that the money made by American citizens is sent to China to build up their economy, while ours suffers and our industry is collapsing.

00:43:25.000 So I'm with Trump on this one.

00:43:26.000 He tried it again.

00:43:27.000 He tried it in 2020 also.

00:43:30.000 His tariff situation in 2020 was in 2018. He did a 30% to 50% tariff on solar panels and washing machines, then 25% tariff on steel.

00:43:38.000 This is worldwide.

00:43:39.000 10% on aluminum.

00:43:41.000 And then the other country struck back with their own.

00:43:43.000 That was 2018. It's pretty wild that in 2019 we were being told we had the best numbers of our lives.

00:43:47.000 Well, in 2019 he ended up printing and giving aid to the farmers about some $28 billion or something.

00:43:54.000 $12 billion increasingly at $28 billion, which is a third of the farmers' income in the United States to make up for the retaliatory tariffs from these other countries back in the United States.

00:44:02.000 Eventually he lifted the trade war.

00:44:04.000 Yeah.

00:44:04.000 And what were the results in 2019?

00:44:06.000 Record low unemployment?

00:44:08.000 Wages were growing?

00:44:09.000 Outpacing inflation?

00:44:10.000 Potentially.

00:44:10.000 No, no, that's a fact.

00:44:11.000 That's a fact.

00:44:12.000 The deficit was going up, though.

00:44:13.000 That's true.

00:44:13.000 And Trump said, as long as you're under-levered...

00:44:15.000 Now, I'm not sure I completely agree, but Trump's position was be under-levered.

00:44:19.000 Grow more than you're accruing debt, and you are seeing improvement in your economy.

00:44:21.000 And that's called supply-side economics, and that has been tried.

00:44:27.000 I'm the old guy here who can look backwards in those days.

00:44:32.000 Art Laffer came up with that.

00:44:34.000 He explained on a napkin, but the simple fact is that it really hasn't worked very well.

00:44:42.000 Just spend money and somehow you'll get it back.

00:44:45.000 It's like going to Las Vegas saying, I lost on the roulette wheel.

00:44:48.000 I'm just going to keep doubling my bet every time.

00:44:50.000 Pretty soon I'll win.

00:44:51.000 And we are spending ourselves into oblivion.

00:44:54.000 We don't have the money to spend on this stuff.

00:44:57.000 The philosophy of like you take a big loan to pay people to build a water mill to irrigate the crop so that you grow a bunch of food to pay back, to sell that, to pay back the loan, and then you've got excess surplus makes a lot of sense.

00:45:08.000 And to scale that out, I understand the philosophy.

00:45:13.000 I don't know.

00:45:13.000 The jury's out whether or not it would work.

00:45:15.000 We could reinvest in our industry.

00:45:17.000 We need to.

00:45:18.000 I think that's the only way because you can't compete with slaves.

00:45:20.000 You just cannot compete with slave labor.

00:45:22.000 You guys are talking like Keynesians.

00:45:26.000 We need to do this.

00:45:28.000 The...

00:45:29.000 The Austrian economics is really the libertarian side of economics.

00:45:35.000 And they hold that it's human nature is what you want to pay attention to.

00:45:40.000 If you tax goods, guess what?

00:45:43.000 They will do less of that particular good or that activity the more you tax it.

00:45:48.000 And so the whole point is that don't make self-licking ice cream cones.

00:45:56.000 We're not trying to make that system.

00:45:58.000 Don't try to make a system that...

00:46:00.000 So how do we compete with slave labor?

00:46:02.000 Well...

00:46:03.000 That is a great question because the fact is we're dealing with countries with incredibly low standard of living and there may be no true solution to that except you produce a good like the skateboards that are high quality made in America and you probably advertised that right?

00:46:26.000 And so they sell to people who care about quality and the individuals have to care about that.

00:46:33.000 I care about quality, so I only buy things that are higher quality, and I value it much more.

00:46:39.000 But there's people who are entering the market, and they can't afford the higher quality.

00:46:45.000 The Chinese skateboards are of comparable quality.

00:46:48.000 They are high-end, they are all well-made, and they're made by slaves. 0.79

00:46:51.000 One of the ways to deal with slave labor and stuff like that would actually be to get rid of things like unions and stuff in the US because unions drive up the price. 0.85

00:47:02.000 You get rid of your minimum wage laws, you get rid of your unions, and you get rid of the incentives.

00:47:07.000 Like a right to work law.

00:47:08.000 I'm not a big fan of unions as they are institutionalized and have weird laws all around them.

00:47:15.000 The idea of collective bargaining I get.

00:47:17.000 I'm totally fine with that.

00:47:18.000 Unions are these weird amalgams of quasi-governmental institutions.

00:47:22.000 Collective bargaining is basically a bizarre concept.

00:47:29.000 You cannot be a professional and collectively bargain.

00:47:33.000 Because it's not a meritocracy, right?

00:47:36.000 I laugh because Airline Pilots and Association...

00:47:39.000 It absolutely is.

00:47:40.000 These guys are being...

00:47:41.000 They're on a scale.

00:47:43.000 Like a teacher.

00:47:44.000 You're on a scale.

00:47:45.000 How many years you've been there?

00:47:46.000 It's not a performance-based.

00:47:48.000 How many years have you been there?

00:47:50.000 And therefore, that's your pay.

00:47:52.000 That's not merit.

00:47:53.000 That's just how long you've been sitting in a seat.

00:47:54.000 But real collective bargaining outside of unions is completely within market norms.

00:47:58.000 If you have 100 employees, and they're not getting paid well, and they go, I don't want to work here because I'm not getting paid enough, and they all walk out, you, the employer, go, wow, I'm not competitive, and they're going to go somewhere else because you have to raise the rates.

00:48:09.000 The problem is unions are weird quasi-governmental organizations that have, you can't strike now, but you can strike then, and then you get fined if you do it this way, and I'm like, that's nothing.

00:48:18.000 That's not real. 0.98

00:48:19.000 That's some weird garbage. 0.99

00:48:21.000 And they have laws written to make that work very well for them, for the union fat cats. 0.98

00:48:27.000 Most of the money that your union dues don't go into your negotiations.

00:48:30.000 It goes straight into politics.

00:48:32.000 Left-wing politics.

00:48:34.000 That's what unions do. 0.99

00:48:36.000 So that's not real collective bargaining, right?

00:48:38.000 My idea is like if you've got a handful of employees and they're all like, guys, I just can't afford to work here anymore, so I'm leaving.

00:48:43.000 Then the boss goes, uh-oh, we're seeing a bunch of people quit.

00:48:46.000 Turnover's super high.

00:48:47.000 What's happening?

00:48:47.000 That's not collective.

00:48:48.000 That's if everybody banded together and say, we're all going to work for this wage or we're all leaving.

00:48:53.000 Yeah, what's wrong with that?

00:48:53.000 I mean, they can legally do that, but essentially it's a union.

00:48:56.000 And this is what I'm saying.

00:48:59.000 You know, in the early days, a bunch of employees being like health, you know, like security, like safety.

00:49:04.000 All of these things are really bad.

00:49:05.000 I don't want to work here anymore.

00:49:07.000 It's like, OK, let's all walk out.

00:49:09.000 Let's not do this.

00:49:09.000 OK, fine.

00:49:10.000 And the boss has to negotiate with them.

00:49:12.000 I think that's fine.

00:49:12.000 Unions, that's not like I don't think it's fair to call that what unions are.

00:49:16.000 Unions are weird, quasi-governmental political machines that even the Teamsters, despite all the Teamsters wanting to vote for Trump, would not endorse the guy because they're political machines to steal money from workers.

00:49:27.000 I despise how the government operates, or how unions are operated within the government.

00:49:31.000 But I love collective bargaining.

00:49:32.000 I love it when people are like, we're going to work together, we're going to decide how we want to be here, how we want to be part of this machine.

00:49:37.000 So, like, workers unionizing is legitimate philosophy.

00:49:41.000 It should be thus, but, like, does the company then have a right to say, then you're all out?

00:49:46.000 Well, in states with a right-to-work law, that's what we're really talking about here, states with a right-to-work law, you can't force a worker to join a union as a condition of employment.

00:49:59.000 And so I don't know how many states we're up to, but we've had attempts at one vote in particular in the U.S. Senate on a national right to work law.

00:50:11.000 And there's been bills to pass that on a national level.

00:50:16.000 But they're all around the country, and a lot of the southern states are right to work.

00:50:22.000 And yeah, those states generally find better industry because the union can't collectively bargain for them.

00:50:31.000 They don't have a sole negotiating power.

00:50:36.000 And so if individuals want to work there, they don't have to join the union.

00:50:39.000 I could see in a state if they were like...

00:50:42.000 Yeah, no unions.

00:50:44.000 We're going to lower, and no more minimum wage.

00:50:46.000 Like, if they took it hard, and they're like, we need to compete with foreign, like you were saying, Phil, you'd get rid of the minimum wage, all the right-to-work laws. 1.00

00:50:52.000 Twelve-year-olds can now work for our company and our factory, and we're going to pay $3.80 an hour.

00:50:56.000 A lot of desperate people would keep that job, and a lot of other people would be like, I can't do that job for $3.80, then they're out on the street.

00:51:03.000 Well, minimum wage laws don't solve for any of that anyway. 0.90

00:51:05.000 28 states now are a right-to-work.

00:51:07.000 Not as many as constitutional carry, but...

00:51:10.000 I think Supreme Court needs to ban the idea that you can only get a job if you join the union.

00:51:15.000 That is insane.

00:51:16.000 What about child labor?

00:51:17.000 What about it?

00:51:18.000 Should we bring it back?

00:51:19.000 Yes.

00:51:20.000 Like 12-year-olds?

00:51:21.000 Absolutely.

00:51:21.000 No age laws?

00:51:22.000 Nine-year-olds in factories with dangerous equipment?

00:51:24.000 Define work.

00:51:25.000 Putting metal plugs in a grinding machine?

00:51:30.000 There's restrictions on even adult men doing those jobs.

00:51:32.000 What kind of restrictions?

00:51:34.000 It's called OSHA. OSHA? So is that you think we should get rid of that?

00:51:37.000 No.

00:51:38.000 Safety standards and stuff?

00:51:39.000 No.

00:51:40.000 Never said that.

00:51:40.000 You're talking about child labor.

00:51:41.000 I'm just asking.

00:51:42.000 If a 40-year-old man wants to go do a certain job, the government restricts whether or not he will be able to or not based on certain requirements.

00:51:48.000 If a 12-year-old wants a job, I say absolutely they should.

00:51:51.000 We're talking about being a paperboy.

00:51:53.000 We're talking about...

00:51:54.000 Like a fry cook or something?

00:51:55.000 Not a fry cook.

00:51:56.000 I mean, if a kid wants to take out garbage at a local restaurant, what's the big deal?

00:52:00.000 Sweep the four. 0.92

00:52:00.000 Yeah, mow the lawn, rake the leaves. 0.92

00:52:02.000 I fried chicken at 14. I mean, so what?

00:52:05.000 Yeah, sure.

00:52:06.000 It sounds like as soon as you say, okay, we're going to get rid of...

00:52:11.000 We want to get rid of this particular law, right?

00:52:14.000 So you want to get rid of the minimum age to work. 1.00

00:52:17.000 I don't really want to.

00:52:19.000 Let me get through it.

00:52:21.000 Your gut reaction is to say, well, what about all these dangerous things that they might do?

00:52:27.000 But the point is, you're going to have actually generally intelligent people making reasonable decisions about what is and is not safe for people.

00:52:39.000 The images that come to mind when people say we're going to get rid of these things are images of the late 1800s, early 1900s, when work was dangerous for everybody.

00:52:50.000 It wasn't just dangerous for children.

00:52:51.000 It was dangerous for men.

00:52:52.000 You had men that were mining coal by hand.

00:52:55.000 You saw black lung was ubiquitous and all these things that are terrible.

00:53:01.000 But those things have ended for everyone.

00:53:04.000 So it's not just children that don't do that anymore.

00:53:07.000 Men don't go into coal mines without some kind of respirator or some kind of cleaning material or some kind of cleaning mask that makes sure that they're not breathing in coal dust and stuff all the time.

00:53:17.000 So you're actually talking about multiple different issues, OSHA and the age of how old a person can be to work.

00:53:25.000 There's nothing wrong with a 12 year old sweeping floors or taking out garbage at their parents or whatever.

00:53:32.000 But Democrats argue that as soon as someone says kids should have jobs, they immediately jump to the most extreme case and say they're trying to put kids in factories.

00:53:41.000 What they want to do is create a—I call this domestication, where when you look at how dogs came to be domesticated, they were wolves, and then the wolves that were too aggressive were not tolerated near the human camps.

00:53:54.000 So over a long enough period of time, only the wolves that were more docile, eventually creating proto-dogs and then dogs, and dogs are basically permanent wolf puppies.

00:54:03.000 Dogs behave like wolf puppies do, like they never grow up.

00:54:06.000 And so what they're doing now with this leftist policy to make it so that young people can't work in some meaningful way— There is an entire generation, millennials and Gen Z, who are 22 years old and have never had a job.

00:54:19.000 Bernie Sanders never had a job.

00:54:21.000 And he's in the forefront of this.

00:54:22.000 Some would argue he has still never had a job.

00:54:25.000 He's never had a job.

00:54:26.000 He's literally never had a job.

00:54:28.000 Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:54:29.000 So those of you listening, comment below.

00:54:31.000 But he's only ever worked in politics.

00:54:33.000 So technically you can call it a job.

00:54:35.000 Right.

00:54:35.000 He's never actually had to like lift a sack of flour and move it to the other room for a baker or move a bunch of bricks.

00:54:42.000 So what they're trying to do is they're taking away meaningful work from young people so they grow up and become inept and incapable and incompetent.

00:54:50.000 So you've got a generation now all voting for the same thing. 0.93

00:54:53.000 And what do we find?

00:54:55.000 It is terrifying to see listless millennials who say things on X like, I just want to sit around and watch TV all day because all they want to do is what they did when they were young. 0.93

00:55:06.000 But then you look at people who are pro-baseball players, pro-football players.

00:55:09.000 What were they doing when they were two and three?

00:55:11.000 Working. 0.97

00:55:12.000 Busting their butts. 0.97

00:55:13.000 Well, they were being trained. 0.98

00:55:14.000 They were learning the game.

00:55:16.000 And so these guys are now in their 20s or early 30s.

00:55:20.000 They're pros at the top of their game.

00:55:22.000 And the only thing they've ever done is been trained to do this thing.

00:55:25.000 They love doing it.

00:55:26.000 I'm open to child labor.

00:55:27.000 In the sense of what we're talking, like a kid can do clerical work, whatever.

00:55:30.000 But what about extending the 40-hour work week, doing overtime?

00:55:34.000 What...

00:55:36.000 Why?

00:55:36.000 Because we want to compete with slave labor.

00:55:38.000 We don't want to compete with slave labor. 0.98

00:55:40.000 Well, we do want to compete with China's workforce. 0.89

00:55:43.000 Yeah, I say we stop letting companies ship everything off to China.

00:55:47.000 That's one way, but that's a big ask.

00:55:49.000 They need to make it cheaper for labor. 1.00

00:55:51.000 Call me silly, but I'm in the freedom corner.

00:55:52.000 I don't want to let people do what they want to do.

00:55:55.000 And if you don't want to work for a company that has a 45-hour work week, don't work for them.

00:56:01.000 You don't have to.

00:56:01.000 You don't own the job.

00:56:03.000 It's the guy who started the business and has the capital.

00:56:05.000 But salary positions don't get overtime.

00:56:08.000 Overtime's only for hourly.

00:56:09.000 Fair.

00:56:09.000 So if you're on a salary, the expectation is that you're working full-time whenever you need to be working.

00:56:13.000 I don't have hours.

00:56:15.000 I don't wait until 40 hours and go beep.

00:56:18.000 Yeah, overtime's a lot.

00:56:19.000 So the people that do hourly, should we consider extending the hour, like 42-hour work week?

00:56:24.000 No tax on overtime.

00:56:24.000 And then every year it incrementally goes higher?

00:56:27.000 Expect in 10 years it's going to be a 48-hour work week?

00:56:29.000 And you're thinking like a Keynesian.

00:56:31.000 You incentivize additional work is what you do.

00:56:33.000 Basically, you're saying government.

00:56:35.000 So whenever you say, should we?

00:56:37.000 Whenever you're saying, should we?

00:56:39.000 Insert, should government.

00:56:41.000 Because if you're going to keep making these claims, it's government doing this, guys.

00:56:45.000 It's the government that said it has to be a 40-hour work week, so we're just getting rid of the government's regulation in this sense.

00:56:50.000 So let me ask you a question then.

00:56:53.000 Someone selling a product that is completely fraudulent, should we stop them?

00:56:58.000 I don't know.

00:56:59.000 Should government stop them?

00:57:02.000 Yeah, the court should.

00:57:03.000 I mean...

00:57:04.000 No, that's government.

00:57:05.000 The court should, by you filing suit as either a consumer or a competitor, filing suit against a company that sells fraudulent products.

00:57:14.000 So there was a company like 14, 15 years ago, and they pop up now, and they sell these things called power bracelets.

00:57:21.000 You ever see these?

00:57:21.000 Magnetic.

00:57:22.000 They say they're ionized mylar bands that give you improved balance.

00:57:26.000 They train their salesmen to do a magic trick, a magician's trick called the center of gravity illusion, to convince you that they are increasing your balance with a piece of rubber, silicon.

00:57:36.000 They make millions of dollars doing this.

00:57:38.000 Should that be allowed?

00:57:41.000 Yeah, yes.

00:57:43.000 Yes, it should.

00:57:44.000 But somebody who could disprove their claims or prove that they are doing their fake trick fraudulently should sue them.

00:57:52.000 But then what happens?

00:57:53.000 They just win money?

00:57:55.000 What are damages for that?

00:57:56.000 They get five bucks?

00:57:57.000 Out of business.

00:57:59.000 Well, they wouldn't go out of business.

00:58:00.000 If it's fraudulent, there's nothing wrong with it.

00:58:02.000 No, no, no, no, hold on.

00:58:02.000 From his perspective, there's no enforcement to stop them from doing it.

00:58:05.000 If you did a class action suit, you could sue for a lot of the people.

00:58:09.000 But...

00:58:10.000 You know, caveat emptor, buyer beware.

00:58:13.000 If the claim they make seems a little off and you bought a $5 bracelet because you bought their garbage and you saw their magic trick, yeah, sorry. 0.99

00:58:27.000 Frankly, you better get a better brain.

00:58:29.000 What if you have three generations eating phthalates and PCBs and disrupting their endocrine systems to the point where they're developmentally disabled?

00:58:36.000 Of course we should...

00:58:38.000 They should be...

00:58:39.000 So there should be a government entity with the power to enforce and stop them from doing it?

00:58:44.000 I'm not suggesting that there is no place for government.

00:58:47.000 I'm just saying, when you're making these decisions, when you're trying to come up with these theoretical concepts, always insert, should government, not should we...

00:58:58.000 So, honest question then.

00:59:00.000 Should government stop companies from putting poison in all of our food?

00:59:04.000 Yes.

00:59:05.000 So there should be some enforcement agency that's going to restrict?

00:59:07.000 There are clearly some standards, yes.

00:59:10.000 I'd rather have it done on a local level, but some things are too big nowadays because, of course, you're producing goods that are sold all around the country and sometimes all around the world.

00:59:19.000 So I don't see a functional difference then in saying government has the ability to regulate for the protection of consumers if it's the same thing about Chinese slave labor destroying industry in the United States and putting towns and people out of work. 0.89

00:59:31.000 I just don't think government does it efficiently.

00:59:33.000 I think the market does a better job.

00:59:34.000 And I think the courts actually do a better job.

00:59:37.000 I think you see the living tar out of companies that produce garbage that are harmful or, frankly, dangerous and dangerous.

00:59:46.000 I can agree that government is largely inefficient and bloated.

00:59:50.000 So the answer then seems to be like sunset clauses.

00:59:53.000 But the free market has not done well for the Rust Belt.

00:59:57.000 We've got manufacturing jobs shipped off to Mexico and China.

00:59:59.000 This is why Trump wants to put in these tariffs.

01:00:01.000 People lost their jobs and Michigan has been absolutely destroyed by the flight from the state.

01:00:06.000 More people are leaving the state than coming to the state.

01:00:08.000 So the existing infrastructure is becoming more expensive to maintain per person.

01:00:12.000 This is basically what causes the Flint crisis.

01:00:14.000 Well, Michigan's also facing a big political crisis from leftist government.

01:00:21.000 But that's a product of the collapse of the state.

01:00:25.000 I mean, if you go back to what Michigan was in the 40s and 50s and you see it booming, the rise of the auto industry, I know we can give a lot of credit to World War II for destroying our competition overseas.

01:00:34.000 But what we see now is the factories leave, people lose their jobs, families leave, base infrastructure remains the same cost and gets distributed among the remaining population.

01:00:43.000 This is what happened with Flint and why Flint switched off their water from the Detroit lines into the Flint lines, which basically got a bunch of people sick.

01:00:50.000 They were saying the Detroit water was too expensive.

01:00:52.000 It's the most expensive in the country.

01:00:54.000 It's because they have an infrastructure that costs X, is divided amongst Y people. 1.00

01:00:59.000 But as more and more people leave, the distribution, Y becomes smaller, so X becomes larger per person.

01:01:05.000 I mean, we could debate the auto industry, and all I have to say to that is compare a 1982 American-made car to a Japanese car.

01:01:15.000 Good luck with that.

01:01:18.000 And because the unions had literally destroyed the American auto industry.

01:01:23.000 Yeah.

01:01:23.000 And they made cars to fail.

01:01:26.000 Said don't make them too good because, one, they need to be replaced.

01:01:31.000 We don't want something to last forever.

01:01:33.000 Then people don't replace it.

01:01:34.000 That means the manufacturers are out.

01:01:36.000 And where else do they make their money?

01:01:38.000 At the service, at the far end of the sales side where you're servicing your vehicle at a dealership.

01:01:45.000 And a lot of that stuff is gone, too.

01:01:48.000 In fact, that's why I like Tesla is because all the middleman is gone.

01:01:55.000 There's no sales middleman.

01:01:56.000 There's no service middleman.

01:01:58.000 It's weird.

01:01:59.000 I think the end result of laissez-faire capitalism would just be, you know, probably it's a bit...

01:02:08.000 I don't want to say it's hyperbolic, but I would say the end of humanity would be the end result.

01:02:13.000 And the reason why is humans, if they're chasing after decentralized carnal desires, it's literally going to be porn and video games.

01:02:21.000 Mechanisms that trigger dopamine is what we tend to see.

01:02:24.000 And so I'm not a fan of communism and absolute government control, but I think there's some degree of restricted regulation based on a moral people deciding some things are destructive in the long term.

01:02:35.000 And so what we see now is a lot of calls from conservatives to ban pornography because it's fried the minds of young men to an extreme degree.

01:02:43.000 All the research shows that their brains are addled and atrophied and look like that of hardcore drug users.

01:02:49.000 So now there's a lot of people saying like, hey, maybe if we unrestrict the market, people will just like the mouse with the cocaine button.

01:02:56.000 You know about that one?

01:02:58.000 They told the mouse, press the button, it gives you cocaine, and all the mouse did was just pressing the button.

01:03:02.000 And there's a funny meme where it's two lab rats having escaped, and one lab rat looks at the other one outside and says, we did it, we're finally free, and the other one says, yeah, but I'm going to miss the cocaine button.

01:03:11.000 When given the opportunity, humans overwhelmingly choose that.

01:03:15.000 Now, there is another point to be made.

01:03:17.000 I mean, the evidence is just in how people consume sugar.

01:03:20.000 Absolutely.

01:03:21.000 I think they gave rats sugar and cocaine and they chose the sugar.

01:03:23.000 But here's the alternative.

01:03:24.000 I want to find that study.

01:03:25.000 It may actually not be that humanity just beats itself off to death by chasing dopamine.

01:03:30.000 There are going to be high mental fortitude individuals Who, when given the choice, we see this now with liberals.

01:03:39.000 They're choosing to abort their kids, sterilize their kids. 0.81

01:03:42.000 Well, the end result is mathematical.

01:03:44.000 Darwinism.

01:03:46.000 And those who are cognizant of these things and who are more likely to pursue long-term goals...

01:03:52.000 Are less likely to destroy their children.

01:03:54.000 And so give it 50, 60 years, and what are we going to see?

01:03:57.000 A staunch conservative government comprised of people who are more likely to engage in certain behaviors. 0.94

01:04:02.000 One of my favorite examples is, people often ask why it is that Europe is so screwed up. 0.82

01:04:07.000 How come Europe is allowing these people to come in and commit these crimes? 0.97

01:04:10.000 We've got one, or Canada or whatever.

01:04:13.000 And, you know, one point that I've made and many others have made.

01:04:17.000 Why?

01:04:18.000 The people who came to the United States from Europe were those who were willing to die to land on a barren rock, hopefully. 1.00

01:04:26.000 Hopefully, if they made it.

01:04:28.000 A third or more didn't survive the journey over several months on a ship.

01:04:32.000 So you've got people in Europe who are like, I'll just grin and bear what my state has to offer despite it being bad.

01:04:38.000 Then you had people saying, I'm going to get a boat where I might die because adventure awaits and maybe, maybe I can make a better life.

01:04:44.000 So you're talking about the slow and gradual cultural shift away from the foundations, which are a little bit more...

01:04:50.000 What's the word I'm looking for?

01:04:53.000 I wouldn't say rebellious.

01:04:54.000 Well, we are rebellious by nature, warrior culture, if you will.

01:04:57.000 I'm saying that the history and culture of the people who came to the States is that of defiance. 1.00

01:05:04.000 And the people who stayed in Europe is that of submission.

01:05:06.000 So you look at what Europe is and why it's constantly just in conflict and screwed up.

01:05:11.000 Yeah.

01:05:12.000 It's because, and why the United States has largely been much more unified.

01:05:15.000 I use this argument a lot of times when we get, you know, comments about firearms, you know, the Second Amendment, this and that.

01:05:20.000 We're not the same as Europe, and that's okay. 1.00

01:05:22.000 Like, we don't have to be.

01:05:24.000 We're just not the same.

01:05:25.000 Sorry.

01:05:25.000 Let's jump to the story from the Daily Mail.

01:05:28.000 Trump plans to kick transgender troops out of the military with 15,000 service members to be medically discharged on his first day in office.

01:05:36.000 The controversial order would cause as many as 15,000 to be medically discharged.

01:05:41.000 Trump seeks to issue an executive action on January 20, 2025 on day one of his term, the Times said, preventing any transgender people from enlisting in the military as all branches continue to struggle with recruitment.

01:05:51.000 I've actually heard that following Pete Hegseth's announcement, they've seen recruitment and Trump's election enlistment numbers have been going up.

01:05:59.000 Have you guys heard that?

01:06:00.000 No, not yet.

01:06:00.000 I've not heard anything about it, but I'd be interested to see some kind of evidence.

01:06:06.000 Look, I was tweeting about this today.

01:06:09.000 You can get sent home or get disqualified for any number of...

01:06:14.000 What in normal society are completely and totally irrelevant to most jobs conditions.

01:06:23.000 You could have ADD. You could be flat-footed.

01:06:28.000 You could have some kind of allergies, I think, are some of the things that you can get.

01:06:34.000 Some kind of food allergies.

01:06:36.000 Any number of things can disqualify you from military service.

01:06:39.000 The idea that gender dysphoria would not disqualify you... 0.99

01:06:43.000 In my opinion, is ridiculous. 0.97

01:06:45.000 Like, that should have been totally obvious. 0.92

01:06:48.000 Is bulimia?

01:06:50.000 Eating disorders were named, yeah.

01:06:52.000 So both bulimia and anorexia could be.

01:06:55.000 And clearly, if you overeat, that'll get you, you'll fail a PT test.

01:07:02.000 So from 2013 to 2017, 124 active duty service members were discharged as a result of eating disorders. 0.88

01:07:08.000 Yeah, and so the idea that people with gender dysphoria would be allowed, I think is totally ridiculous. 1.00

01:07:14.000 The question, the return question to that, right?

01:07:17.000 All of those dismissals are ultimately predicated upon the inability to perform a function, right?

01:07:22.000 So if you have an eating disorder of some kind, you can't really be expected to perform your fundamental mission, whatever that might be, whatever your MOS is, whether you're infantry or a cook.

01:07:33.000 If you have an eating disorder, that's going to be detrimental to that.

01:07:36.000 The fundamental question that I would actually kind of throw out at the table here is, you know, does gender dysphoria ultimately cause one to be unable to perform their mission?

01:07:46.000 Because that's how I've always looked at topics like this, is we have kind of shaped the military into this almost inclusive effort that everybody's individual perspectives, who they feel about themselves, is what matters more necessarily than our ability to be lethal.

01:08:06.000 Right?

01:08:06.000 So from my perspective, ultimately, regardless of what your condition is in the military, if that keeps you from being able to perform your fundamental mission, and a part of that is being a part of a cohesive team, it doesn't matter what that condition is for me, because your identity doesn't matter when you put your uniform on.

01:08:24.000 That's how I've always looked at that, but I'm interested to kind of throw that question back out.

01:08:28.000 Does gender dysphoria lead to an inability to perform your fundamental mission?

01:08:33.000 I mean, it depends on how you define being transsexual.

01:08:37.000 If that's the phrase, like, does it mean that you took bottom surgery?

01:08:40.000 Because then, yeah, that's going to be, if you've got scar tissue and you need a catheter or whatever the hell these tools, that could be a problem. 0.98

01:08:45.000 But if it's just this burly dude that, like, kicks ass and then he's like, I'm a woman. 0.98

01:08:50.000 Like, but he's still a beast on the field. 0.99

01:08:52.000 It doesn't, he can still be a soul.

01:08:53.000 Can you do that again?

01:08:54.000 I'm a woman.

01:08:55.000 Like, he can pull it off.

01:08:57.000 No one's going to care if he gets the job done.

01:08:59.000 So I have a question.

01:09:01.000 If you have, like, body dysmorphic disorder, They can discharge you.

01:09:07.000 If you want these three...

01:09:08.000 I think...

01:09:09.000 What's the disorder called?

01:09:12.000 Dissociative body identity disorder or something like that?

01:09:14.000 What's the...

01:09:15.000 Let me try and look this up.

01:09:16.000 What's it called again?

01:09:17.000 I'll look it up.

01:09:17.000 You go ahead.

01:09:19.000 It's a disorder where you want to remove a body part.

01:09:22.000 Yeah.

01:09:23.000 So there are people who want to remove their hands.

01:09:26.000 Yeah.

01:09:27.000 And they have done horrifying things where they...

01:09:28.000 Body integrity dysphoria.

01:09:30.000 Okay.

01:09:30.000 How can this even be a discussion that somebody with that problem could be in any level of responsibility?

01:09:38.000 Well, because people would say they were gay to get out of Vietnam draft.

01:09:41.000 I want to clarify something.

01:09:46.000 Gender dysphoria, where someone seeks medical transition, includes body integrity dysphoria.

01:09:54.000 So body integrity dysphoria is individuals that feel a specific body tart does not belong to them or is alien.

01:09:59.000 So if there's an individual who has male parts and they want to have that removed, that means that people with gender identity disorder or gender dysphoria also have body integrity dysphoria.

01:10:12.000 Like a subcategory of body integrity disorder.

01:10:14.000 Other way around.

01:10:15.000 Body integrity disorder can exist within people who are experiencing gender dysphoria.

01:10:20.000 Well, I think anybody...

01:10:21.000 Like women who want to remove their breasts. 1.00

01:10:22.000 But then you might have gender dysphoria, but you don't want to remove a part, you're saying.

01:10:25.000 You might still have a gender dysphoric state of mind without wanting to remove something.

01:10:31.000 Yes, perhaps.

01:10:32.000 I don't know.

01:10:32.000 I'm saying that typically what we see is females wanting to remove their breasts, which would be in line with body integrity dysphoria.

01:10:39.000 This is what I'm wondering.

01:10:40.000 What's the official definition of my trans at this stage?

01:10:43.000 Because if you're going to remove people that don't have any body dysmorphia, but they just think they're a different sex, is that really a reason to not be in the military?

01:10:51.000 I don't know.

01:10:52.000 I can't see how that would affect your mission.

01:10:54.000 I mean...

01:10:55.000 I would say if you're having trouble aligning yourself with your physical presence, it's probably grounds for discharge.

01:11:02.000 The people who are serving in the military need to be effective and lethal to protect this country and our allies overseas.

01:11:09.000 And if somebody is feeling an incongruence between their mind and body, that I believe would affect their ability to do their job.

01:11:16.000 And I don't care what that form that takes.

01:11:18.000 I'm not saying gender.

01:11:19.000 I'm saying if somebody's like, my hand feels alien to me and I need it off, it's like, okay, well, this person's going to not be able to function to the extreme.

01:11:26.000 Let's put it this way.

01:11:28.000 How many people, what percentage of people do you think are capable to serve effectively in the military?

01:11:35.000 Ronnie?

01:11:36.000 I don't know.

01:11:37.000 A half a percent?

01:11:39.000 A small percentage of people have the capability to be the best of the best to serve.

01:11:43.000 Now, certainly you're going to have people say like, yeah, but there are people in the military doing paperwork and stuff like that.

01:11:48.000 I don't think we want to be in the habit of saying we'll take literally anybody and then find a place for them.

01:11:53.000 No, no, you can't.

01:11:54.000 So, you know, like I was saying earlier, we've kind of gotten away from the military's fundamental mission, right?

01:11:59.000 The fundamental mission for the military is to be lethal, right?

01:12:02.000 You know, whether that's, whether you're a soldier, sailor, airman, marine, that is ultimately, whether you're combat arms, combat support, that is ultimately the mission that you are an enabler for, right?

01:12:14.000 I do find the assimilation piece to this one that's interesting.

01:12:17.000 I've got a lot of friends that went through the Special Operations Forces pipeline, and one of the criteria for them to continue through or pass is the ability to assimilate as a part of the team.

01:12:28.000 And that's ultimately...

01:12:30.000 Where my mind goes as the most impactful, but it still very simply boils back to me personally.

01:12:38.000 I went to Afghanistan twice.

01:12:41.000 Can you perform your fundamental mission?

01:12:44.000 Can you do your job?

01:12:47.000 If you can do your job, which ultimately does include setting yourself aside, selfless service being one of those tenants and core values, if you're able to do that, then you should be afforded the opportunity to serve.

01:13:00.000 But again, it boils back to selfless service.

01:13:03.000 Can you assimilate as a part of a team?

01:13:05.000 Can you focus on something not yourself?

01:13:08.000 That's where I think we have one of these issues in the military right now that I'm starting to get a little bit excited about some of the pathways that are being taken where we're prioritizing individualism rather than ultimately, again, the ultimate mission, which is to be lethal, to be able to maintain the crown.

01:13:27.000 Heavy is the crown, and we need our military to be able to do that.

01:13:31.000 So if we start to focus a little bit more on that as a fundamental issue, Right?

01:13:36.000 Rather than, you know, who are you as an individual?

01:13:38.000 You're a soldier.

01:13:39.000 You're a sailor.

01:13:40.000 You're an airman.

01:13:41.000 You're a Marine.

01:13:42.000 You're a Coast Guardsman.

01:13:43.000 Some people, most of you, have seen that video of the Coastie banging on the top of that sub.

01:13:49.000 Yeah.

01:13:50.000 That is...

01:13:50.000 Total BA. Total BA. I could watch that every day and still not feel full from watching it, right?

01:13:57.000 But that attitude, that attitude, he's not doing that, you know, as an individual.

01:14:02.000 He's doing that as a part of an overarching member of a team, and he is able to fulfill his function.

01:14:08.000 Can you do your mission?

01:14:11.000 That's my question.

01:14:12.000 Regardless of what you call yourself, you know, what gender you are, I don't care. 1.00

01:14:16.000 Can you fulfill your function?

01:14:18.000 So do you agree with Trump's position on this then?

01:14:22.000 No, no, I wouldn't say I would, largely because I think it has to be pulled back a layer, right?

01:14:28.000 I think there are going to be some individuals in that 15,000 that absolutely could be a part of fulfilling a mission.

01:14:35.000 But again, you have to be able to set your individualism aside.

01:14:38.000 And one of the larger issues that comes along with this is individualism.

01:14:45.000 It's the me.

01:14:46.000 This is what I want to call myself.

01:14:47.000 I think the other issue is that this is affecting recruitment severely.

01:14:51.000 Mm-hmm.

01:14:51.000 I think the woke elements of the military have resulted in people resigning their commissions or just outright not wanting to enlist.

01:15:00.000 And I've personally met maybe like two or three people who said, you know, I remember one guy a couple years ago, he was a captain and he said it was his goal and his dream to be a careerist and retire.

01:15:10.000 And he's in his mid-30s and says, nah, I resigned.

01:15:13.000 I can't be a part of whatever this is.

01:15:14.000 So the ideological divide here, I think the issue is, like you could say, a person who is transgender can easily serve, not if it creates a hyper-political divide to the point where you're going to have someone who's going to say, this is a DSM-5 mental disorder that is in line with a whole bunch of mental disorders we would not allow in the military.

01:15:35.000 The military is broken, it has been politicized, and I don't want to be a part of it.

01:15:38.000 So that goes back, once again, to what I was saying earlier.

01:15:42.000 You have to be able to assimilate.

01:15:43.000 Yeah, you know, cohesion and stuff.

01:15:45.000 So cohesion is a part of that, right?

01:15:47.000 Now, how exactly we measure that and how—I might just not be intelligent enough to understand how exactly to employ that, but I do know that there is a recruiting crisis, right?

01:15:57.000 I do know, you know, as a member of the military, that I still think that it is a positive to serve, right?

01:16:02.000 I still believe in our institutions.

01:16:04.000 I think it's a positive to serve.

01:16:06.000 And— There is something that is keeping people from being a part of the military, right?

01:16:10.000 So if there are people out there that can do that, and they happen to fall into this category of 15,000, I don't know where that number comes from.

01:16:17.000 I mean, it's the drag queens that we see in the military, adds the promotion, it's the appointment of people who are...

01:16:24.000 I think when you've got a lot of people who...

01:16:27.000 Let's go back to the Army commercial that went viral, where it was a cartoon about a girl saying, I have two moms.

01:16:33.000 And then you look at everybody cheering on the Russian commercial where it's like a guy jumping out of a plane and landing.

01:16:38.000 One was a male ego action movie, and one was a feel-good drama for women.

01:16:46.000 And it probably didn't actually recruit the type of people you wanted in the military anyway.

01:16:53.000 What is the military's job?

01:16:55.000 Hold things up.

01:16:57.000 Take care of the bad guys, right?

01:16:59.000 In essence.

01:17:01.000 And the kind of people who are excited about two mommies and or having the drag queen sitting next to you in a sub...

01:17:15.000 You don't want them in your military.

01:17:17.000 Sorry.

01:17:18.000 I don't think so.

01:17:19.000 I'm totally with Trump.

01:17:20.000 I shock everybody.

01:17:21.000 I think the issue might just be with like, if you want to live your life, you want to do your thing, like, by all means, like, you know, go ahead and do it.

01:17:27.000 But if the, I don't know, 99, if the overwhelming majority of people might say we're tolerant of this, but...

01:17:34.000 It doesn't mean they want to be involved in the administration that's doing it.

01:17:37.000 I think it's not just about transgender soldiers, but this is a component of what is leading to recruitment shortfalls.

01:17:43.000 Yeah.

01:17:44.000 And guys, this is not only is it leading to less people joining the military because they don't want to be a part of that.

01:17:54.000 But think of the long-term implications.

01:17:56.000 I mean, if you look at transgender people, they commit suicide at rates...

01:18:01.000 It's like 30 to 40 percent. 0.97

01:18:03.000 It's horrifying.

01:18:04.000 Yeah.

01:18:04.000 It's terrible.

01:18:06.000 And there's clearly something wrong.

01:18:07.000 You don't want those people in the military.

01:18:10.000 They need help.

01:18:11.000 They need professional resistance to live better lives.

01:18:14.000 One of the things we do very poorly from a selection perspective, there need to be better mental aptitude tests.

01:18:21.000 I mean, this is across government.

01:18:22.000 So let's just step beyond just the military.

01:18:24.000 I think mental acuity, mental aptitude, that needs to be tested a little bit more from a service perspective.

01:18:33.000 More of a fundamental approach on the service aspect to that, setting the individual—I'm going to go back to the same word.

01:18:40.000 I'm sorry I keep beating this word—but setting the individual aside, I think if the focus shifts back to that, from a fundamental perspective, our military is off in a better direction.

01:18:51.000 I don't think this specifically is— Itself, the biggest issue, I think it is, you know, a discussion to have as a part of a greater problem.

01:19:01.000 Again, getting our military away from what it's designed and meant to do, which is be lethal.

01:19:06.000 I mean, look at this.

01:19:07.000 Look at this.

01:19:08.000 This was a huge story.

01:19:10.000 This is why people...

01:19:11.000 Why would someone...

01:19:12.000 Look...

01:19:13.000 You go to a young guy.

01:19:14.000 He has a sense of adventure.

01:19:15.000 He has a sense of duty.

01:19:16.000 He wants to fight.

01:19:17.000 He wants to protect.

01:19:18.000 He wants to serve.

01:19:19.000 And then they're like, you'll be under this guy.

01:19:21.000 He's like, not interested.

01:19:22.000 So they're gone.

01:19:23.000 Peace out.

01:19:24.000 There are a litany of problems with this, right?

01:19:27.000 So that is against AR670-1.

01:19:29.000 That dude immediately...

01:19:31.000 What is that?

01:19:31.000 670-1 is the uniform standard for the U.S. Army, right?

01:19:34.000 So it tells you what you can and can't wear.

01:19:36.000 Ronnie here throwing out the regulation number.

01:19:38.000 I'm sorry, man.

01:19:39.000 This one drove me up the wall.

01:19:42.000 So that is, there are standards, right?

01:19:44.000 Every military needs to have standards.

01:19:46.000 It needs to set baselines.

01:19:47.000 Of course, you'll have units and capabilities that exceed those.

01:19:50.000 But across the force, there has to be, once again, a standard because it's meant for everybody to be effectively the same.

01:19:58.000 You wear the uniform to wear the uniform, not as an accessory.

01:20:03.000 That's what he's doing in this photo here.

01:20:06.000 And to be frank, it's BS. Yeah.

01:20:08.000 So he needed to be held accountable.

01:20:09.000 I don't recall whether or not he eventually was, but that to me is not performing your function.

01:20:16.000 That is a full bird colonel.

01:20:17.000 Not performing his function.

01:20:19.000 If they're doing the same thing in drag, what's the difference?

01:20:22.000 If it's on their free time, how does it impact the nation?

01:20:24.000 He's talking about if you're a man wearing a woman's uniform, you're essentially in drag in military uniform. 0.94

01:20:31.000 And they post videos where they're in uniform and then they wipe the camera and then they're in drag.

01:20:36.000 I'm like, is that allowed?

01:20:38.000 They promoted that intentionally.

01:20:40.000 They promoted these individuals.

01:20:42.000 They paid to market that. 0.88

01:20:43.000 There's one thing that I want to say that this gets into a little bit of the whole philosophy behind the left, right?

01:20:48.000 And what's going on here is exemplified.

01:20:51.000 So the left likes to go ahead and say things like, we want to center the marginalized.

01:20:56.000 And that's exactly what they're doing.

01:20:58.000 They're taking the people that are on the fringes and they're making them the focus and the center of discussion.

01:21:03.000 Just like you said, Ronnie, it's supposed to be, the military is supposed to be, you know, nameless and faceless.

01:21:09.000 There's no, there's no, I remember, you know, I was in the military for a second.

01:21:13.000 They used to always say, you know, there's no, there's no Black Marines, there's no white Marines, there's just green Marines.

01:21:19.000 Everybody's all green Marines. 0.95

01:21:20.000 And that's the way that it was.

01:21:23.000 But if you have people that are transgender or have some kind of weird kink that they want to wear a dog mask and uniform, this is centering. 1.00

01:21:31.000 And by the powers that be or the establishment saying this is acceptable, that is centering the marginalized in an arena where centering the marginalized is absolutely unacceptable.

01:21:43.000 So this is not about whether they're functional or not.

01:21:46.000 This is about rooting out leftist philosophy.

01:21:50.000 Setting that foundation pour right out of the gate.

01:21:52.000 Exactly.

01:21:53.000 So get rid of the leftist philosophy in the military.

01:21:55.000 Tim wants to go to something more important.

01:21:57.000 Let's jump to this story from the baby...

01:21:59.000 Dude, I love this one.

01:22:01.000 This story is from the Daily Wire.

01:22:02.000 Washington commanders agree to uncancel Redskins' logo.

01:22:06.000 The censorship of the former commander's logo was a classic case of woke gone wrong, the Montana senator wrote.

01:22:14.000 So it sounds like what they're saying is they're going to bring back the—what do they call it?

01:22:18.000 The official name is—let's just read it.

01:22:21.000 They say the iconic Blackfoot chief logo.

01:22:24.000 They are not—I do not believe they're going to say Redskins.

01:22:27.000 But they're going to bring the iconic logo back.

01:22:30.000 Now, my only disappointment here is that as soon as they banned the Redskins, I ordered on Amazon Redskins Ziploc bags, hoping that they would accrue great value, and now they're probably not going to.

01:22:42.000 I've been a Redskins fan my whole life.

01:22:44.000 This logo is like a part of my childhood for me, you know?

01:22:49.000 But so...

01:22:50.000 Didn't they actually, weren't they ignored, and didn't they actually have a lot of tribes come forward and say, hold on a second, we actually love this, you know?

01:23:01.000 They were like, we were a part of this, we want the logo to stay.

01:23:05.000 Yeah, it was white liberals who wanted to get rid of the name and logo.

01:23:09.000 Chief Wahoo was mine, I'm a Cleveland guy, Akron, and that was like a Sambo kind of like... 0.99

01:23:16.000 You know, 1920s caricature of a crazy Indian guy. 0.79

01:23:20.000 And that was way more, if you're going to call it racist, that one was. 0.74

01:23:24.000 This one actually is just a legitimate picture of a Native American looking dude.

01:23:28.000 And an EA one, too.

01:23:30.000 Like, that is not a guy you want to fool with.

01:23:33.000 Isn't that what you want your sports team to be associated with?

01:23:36.000 Yeah.

01:23:37.000 Warriors and strong figures.

01:23:40.000 Red skin obviously indicates black skin, white skin, red skin.

01:23:44.000 It's a racial thing, or it's just a slur.

01:23:48.000 The tribe approved it, though.

01:23:50.000 The actual original art was approved by the tribe.

01:23:54.000 I don't remember the name of the tribe, so I'm not trying to be disrespectful.

01:23:57.000 The Blackfoot, right?

01:23:57.000 I believe so.

01:23:58.000 But they approved it.

01:23:59.000 And if I understand correctly, the tribe, like, part of the reason why this is even happening is because the tribe wants it back.

01:24:05.000 They're like, yo, because we've talked about how, like, you know, on the Land O'Lakes design, they took the native out.

01:24:13.000 On Aunt Jemima, they got rid of the black woman.

01:24:16.000 On Uncle Ben's, they got rid of the black woman. 0.99

01:24:18.000 So you still got the product, but you're erasing people of color from popular culture.

01:24:23.000 By trying to be politically correct, you're actually removing them from spaces where they're commonly seen.

01:24:31.000 Overall, that is a bad thing if equality is what you want. 0.79

01:24:38.000 They would say that they're caricatures of actual people, but there's no reason to believe that it was disrespectful.

01:24:47.000 You know what I mean?

01:24:47.000 A similar thing with the Snow White, the recent Snow White movie that I think never happened.

01:24:50.000 It was going to be Snow White and the Seven Crazy Dudes instead of the Seven Dwarves.

01:24:54.000 I think so, yeah.

01:24:55.000 A bunch of dwarves that were actors in Hollywood got pissed off because they were taking jobs away.

01:24:58.000 Snow White and the Seven Companions.

01:25:00.000 Yeah.

01:25:01.000 And the movie's not come out, right?

01:25:02.000 So it was Peter Dinklage who was like, how could they be so racist?

01:25:06.000 And it's like, dude...

01:25:07.000 Dinklage said that?

01:25:07.000 Yeah, he got super mad.

01:25:09.000 And it's like, bro, dwar... 0.99

01:25:10.000 Okay, listen.

01:25:12.000 The use of the term dwarf for little people was to be nice because people were offended by midget.

01:25:18.000 And dwarves are a mythological story folklore creature of they are small creatures that are born from the clay of the earth and live in mountains.

01:25:29.000 It was never a slur.

01:25:32.000 It did not evolve into a slur or whatever to be for little people.

01:25:36.000 So when they had Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, it's literally a maiden and mythological creatures born from the clay of the earth who mine gold.

01:25:42.000 And then he's like, dwarf is offensive to me, so they shouldn't do it. 1.00

01:25:46.000 So then they do the Seven Companions.

01:25:48.000 I've got to pull that image up.

01:25:50.000 Peter Dinklage should give out all the money he made from being the Lannister dwarf.

01:25:55.000 Exactly.

01:25:56.000 He was typecast.

01:25:57.000 So it's the Blackfeet Nation, by the way.

01:25:59.000 The Blackfeet Nation is the Washington... 0.95

01:26:01.000 I guess, Trump.

01:26:02.000 The commanders?

01:26:02.000 Is that what they are now?

01:26:03.000 Dinklage is accused of pulling up the ladder behind him, right?

01:26:07.000 Oh, yes.

01:26:08.000 And it's not supposed to be...

01:26:10.000 That's something that...

01:26:11.000 It has nothing to do with the fact that he's a dwarf.

01:26:12.000 But he was given a high-profile part...

01:26:19.000 Because of the fact that he is a dwarf.

01:26:21.000 That is a key component for the Lannister character.

01:26:24.000 And his character is literally one of the best in TV. Yeah, and now because he's like, oh, I'm so offended, he's saying that other people that could have had important roles or had roles because of the fact that they were a dwarf, now he's saying, well, we can't.

01:26:42.000 And it's like, well, you got a role.

01:26:43.000 What's wrong with that?

01:26:44.000 This is Snow White and the racially and sexually diverse companions. 0.84

01:26:49.000 Wow, what a mistake.

01:26:50.000 And they got rid of it.

01:26:51.000 And I think the movie's just dead.

01:26:54.000 I think so, too.

01:26:54.000 Good!

01:26:55.000 Is that Ziegler?

01:26:55.000 Rachel Ziegler?

01:26:56.000 Is that her name? 0.99

01:26:57.000 Yeah, she's awful. 1.00

01:26:58.000 She's talking a lot of crap about men. 1.00

01:27:00.000 All kinds of insults. 1.00

01:27:01.000 All kinds of insults.

01:27:02.000 Oh my gosh. 0.99

01:27:03.000 Sickening racism.

01:27:04.000 So they had to redo the whole movie, basically.

01:27:06.000 Let me pull up this other thing.

01:27:07.000 Who's doing it?

01:27:08.000 It's Disney.

01:27:08.000 Take a look at this.

01:27:09.000 Oh, surprise.

01:27:10.000 They had to redo it after everybody was like, yo, that's the cringiest.

01:27:14.000 That looks horrific.

01:27:14.000 I mean, at least, are they puppets?

01:27:16.000 No.

01:27:16.000 No, it's CGI. Oh, that's terrible.

01:27:19.000 Man, that's so cool.

01:27:20.000 But they're in a video game.

01:27:21.000 And now what's going to happen is there's going to be a bunch of actors like Dinklage who are saying, you mean you got...

01:27:28.000 CGI instead of hiring actors. 0.98

01:27:30.000 There's nothing you can do when you pursue this woke garbage. 0.89

01:27:33.000 I just saw, it was for, what's that Matthew McConaughey movie from 2003 where his family is a bunch of, is it little people or is it dwarves? 0.97

01:27:42.000 I don't know what the term is.

01:27:43.000 Wasn't the song like Snow White's skin was white as snow or something? 0.91

01:27:46.000 Oof.

01:27:46.000 It is.

01:27:47.000 Yeah, I think she's white as snow. 0.89

01:27:48.000 That's where she gets her name. 0.96

01:27:50.000 Well, there you go.

01:27:51.000 She doesn't have white.

01:27:52.000 Her skin is not very white.

01:27:55.000 She's probably kept out of the sun.

01:27:57.000 Skin as white as snow is the description of snow white.

01:28:00.000 That's right. 0.96

01:28:01.000 The evil witch describes her as that. 0.99

01:28:03.000 Just don't do the movie if you're brutalized.

01:28:04.000 Could you imagine if they do this movie and they get the evil queen and she actually says the line, her skin is white as snow, and then it shows her.

01:28:10.000 The worst part about all this is it cheapens...

01:28:12.000 It really cheapens the term racist because clearly there are racists who literally care about race more than anything else.

01:28:23.000 But we've literally desensitized people to that term.

01:28:28.000 Now it's gone.

01:28:30.000 I know. 0.90

01:28:30.000 When they say, I'm going to make a woman of color my vice president, that's racist. 0.90

01:28:35.000 And to say that the other guy's racist because he didn't do it is bizarrely unhinged, I guess you should say. 0.51

01:28:42.000 So you've got to focus on who are the real racists.

01:28:44.000 It's the race baiters. 0.99

01:28:45.000 It's the people that focus on race. 0.91

01:28:46.000 That's racist.

01:28:48.000 Dude, they just...

01:28:50.000 That's so...

01:28:50.000 That's cringy.

01:28:52.000 Well, I mean, not to...

01:28:53.000 Well, we're winning.

01:28:54.000 Yeah.

01:28:55.000 The Chief's...

01:28:55.000 The Chief logo is coming back for the Fredskins, so...

01:28:58.000 Well, they're saying...

01:28:59.000 This is called self-cancellation.

01:29:01.000 I like it.

01:29:02.000 I guess the Cleveland Indians, are they a different name, too, now?

01:29:05.000 Did they change the Cleveland...

01:29:06.000 I don't think...

01:29:06.000 They just changed the mascot logo.

01:29:10.000 The logo?

01:29:10.000 I think they changed the logo, didn't they?

01:29:11.000 So they...

01:29:11.000 I don't think Wahoo's coming back.

01:29:13.000 I can't stand these people.

01:29:14.000 It's like, just chill, dude.

01:29:16.000 I mean, red skin.

01:29:17.000 No, they're the Guardians now.

01:29:18.000 The Cleveland Guardians.

01:29:19.000 The Cleveland Guardians.

01:29:19.000 Oh my gosh.

01:29:20.000 The logo is the same.

01:29:22.000 I'm going to be honest, the logo is the same?

01:29:24.000 Yeah, I'm not seeing a different logo here.

01:29:26.000 Okay, I don't know.

01:29:27.000 No, no, it's a...

01:29:28.000 Oh, is it different?

01:29:29.000 It's a G. It's a baseball with a G and wings are on it.

01:29:31.000 I'm looking at cashed.

01:29:31.000 Pull up Chief Wahoo.

01:29:32.000 I stared at this guy for...

01:29:33.000 I'm looking at cashed images here of it.

01:29:34.000 That's what it is.

01:29:35.000 Especially the Chief Wahoo from like the 20s and 30s.

01:29:38.000 Chief Wahoo pops right up.

01:29:40.000 Chief Wahoo from the 20s and 30s was like...

01:29:43.000 You know, I could see that it got less offensive because, like, that was just a cool-looking cartoon.

01:29:48.000 We should ban Elmer Fudd, too.

01:29:50.000 Look at that, that bottom one. 1.00

01:29:51.000 That's the one that was, like, Sambo-style, like, making fun of the dumb, the crazy idiot. 1.00

01:29:55.000 Wait a minute. 1.00

01:29:55.000 You have a 1911 in here. 1.00

01:29:56.000 You're a Fudd.

01:29:59.000 Come on, Tim. 0.92

01:30:00.000 You're a Fudd.

01:30:01.000 I think Elmer Fudd is...

01:30:04.000 We gotta get rid of Elmer Fudd, too.

01:30:06.000 There you go.

01:30:06.000 Look at that.

01:30:06.000 He's a dumb white inbred.

01:30:09.000 Yeah, he's a caricature of white people. 1.00

01:30:10.000 You can't have it. 0.98

01:30:11.000 It's racist.

01:30:12.000 What does the Elmer Fudd say to World Wars?

01:30:16.000 I don't think that Elmer Fudd actually has ever had a 1911. What's his backstory?

01:30:21.000 Isn't it always been a side-by-side?

01:30:23.000 It's always been a side-by-side.

01:30:25.000 It's his backstory that he's a hillbilly hick that didn't get a lot of good nutrition.

01:30:30.000 I don't know.

01:30:31.000 I'm going to be honest, though.

01:30:32.000 My favorite gun that I own is like a break-action single-shot 20-gauge, though, just to be fair to Elmer Fudd.

01:30:39.000 I get it, dude.

01:30:41.000 Well, you know, he's just hunting wabbits.

01:30:42.000 You don't need anything crazy.

01:30:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:44.000 It's not the smartest animal, but apparently in his universe they are.

01:30:48.000 So there you go.

01:30:48.000 No bird shot.

01:30:49.000 But, you know...

01:30:51.000 The idea that we have to get rid of Chief Wahoo because it's offensive to Native Americans, it's like, I don't know, literally every single cartoon ever that has a depiction, like Homer Simpson, come on, talk about mocking white people.

01:31:03.000 You can't have that, can you?

01:31:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:05.000 Homer, oof.

01:31:06.000 The way Marge talks.

01:31:07.000 Yeah, no, we've got to ban everything that's offensive to anybody for any reason at any point, so just nothing's allowed ever.

01:31:15.000 That's basically the plot to Fahrenheit 451. We're trying to erase history.

01:31:20.000 No, the premise in Fahrenheit 51 is that everybody's offended by everything, so the government has to get rid of books to stop everyone from being offended.

01:31:27.000 I just don't think getting rid of the past makes it not pop back up.

01:31:32.000 You gotta at least know what happened.

01:31:34.000 Like, there should be a monument.

01:31:36.000 There probably is a monument.

01:31:37.000 They tore all those statues down, remember?

01:31:39.000 Of Wahoo?

01:31:40.000 They tore down Frederick Douglass!

01:31:42.000 They're just communists who want to destroy American history.

01:31:44.000 And the worst part is, now all these new sports teams, they don't know what to do.

01:31:49.000 Like, this new Utah hockey club that moved from Arizona, you know, they don't know what to do, so what are they?

01:31:55.000 The Utah hockey club.

01:31:57.000 That's just like the Washington football team.

01:31:59.000 The Commanders. 0.98

01:32:00.000 Their mascot's a pig, right?

01:32:02.000 No, so the Hogs, it goes all the way back to the offensive line back in the late 80s, early 90s.

01:32:09.000 They were the Hogs. 0.99

01:32:10.000 So it was like an unofficial mascot for them.

01:32:12.000 Yeah.

01:32:12.000 But when the Redskins changed their name the first time, they became the Washington football team.

01:32:17.000 Right.

01:32:18.000 And they became the commanders.

01:32:19.000 Thank you for letting me know. 0.66

01:32:21.000 They became the commanders with their mascot being a pig, and everybody was laughing because it was literally the commanders and a war pig was their mascot.

01:32:28.000 So, you know, perfect.

01:32:30.000 They were trying to do an ode back to the Hogs, and it was pretty poorly done.

01:32:35.000 You were saying the Atlanta Braves, they're still called the Braves.

01:32:38.000 Chief Nakahoma was the mascot for the Atlanta Braves from 66 to 85. And the tomahawk chop?

01:32:45.000 Come on, that was cool.

01:32:46.000 I mean, again, I'm a hockey guy.

01:32:48.000 What the heck do I know about baseball?

01:32:50.000 Pull up the Chicago Blackhawks, still.

01:32:53.000 And I'm not a Dirty Birds fan, but that's still one of the most iconic logos and sports uniforms in all of...

01:33:04.000 Look at that, 1926. It's a very respectable image.

01:33:07.000 Isn't it kind of funny that Americans just loved Native Americans for their sporting teams?

01:33:12.000 They were competitors.

01:33:12.000 The Cleveland Indians, the Redskins, the Blackhawks, the Braves.

01:33:17.000 You know a lot of them.

01:33:17.000 Yeah, they had a tremendous respect from people in the United States.

01:33:21.000 Well, yeah, they still...

01:33:22.000 You said the Utes.

01:33:22.000 Utah was like a tribe.

01:33:23.000 Utes was the name of the state after the tribe.

01:33:26.000 That's impressive.

01:33:28.000 I mean, you don't want to erase history.

01:33:30.000 That's what the Romans would have just- The commies do. 1.00

01:33:32.000 The commies want to erase history.

01:33:33.000 That's kind of their thing.

01:33:34.000 That's completely their thing.

01:33:36.000 Yeah.

01:33:37.000 But you don't want to mock, I mean, the people that you've subjugated either, so I kind of understand.

01:33:41.000 I mean, I always said hockey won't go that way because, you know, we still love fighting in hockey.

01:33:49.000 And at least it'll be a safe haven.

01:33:51.000 And then they started doing Pride Week and all that garbage.

01:33:54.000 I think the Blackhawks are safe because that's a cool picture.

01:33:56.000 And is it the Blackhawk tribe?

01:33:58.000 Is that the name of the tribe?

01:33:58.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:33:59.000 So it's a respectable game.

01:34:00.000 You know, with this shift, I was saying a few years ago that if the wokeness trend continues, we would eventually see co-ed professional leagues. 0.99

01:34:09.000 The argument would be made that there's no reason...

01:34:13.000 The rules are arbitrary.

01:34:14.000 We decide what the rules are of the game.

01:34:15.000 We could easily decide the rules should be half men, half women. 0.95

01:34:18.000 Every team must have an equal amount of men and women playing and they have to have equal time in the court, in the field, whatever it is.

01:34:24.000 If wokeness continued, I think that would be the outcome. 0.97

01:34:29.000 They would be like, no, no, no, we don't have enough diversity in these major league sports.

01:34:33.000 Now that they've been crushed and defeated...

01:34:37.000 What we're seeing with the revival of the Redskins logo, I think it's actually starting to go the other way.

01:34:40.000 I think people generally just didn't like watching males beat women in their own sporting events, and it's causing a lot of controversy.

01:34:48.000 The Wall Street Journal called it a sleeper issue in this election.

01:34:51.000 One woman interviewed by the New York Times said it radicalized her into voting for Trump because even though he's psychotic, he seems more normal.

01:34:57.000 I mean, when Martina Navratilova, the lead lesbian... 1.00

01:35:03.000 You know, in professional sports, as a tennis player came out and said, this is wrong.

01:35:09.000 Women should compete against women, period, biologically. 1.00

01:35:13.000 You know, who cares if you're butchy like she is, but you're a woman. 1.00

01:35:18.000 That's what your chromosomes say. 0.90

01:35:21.000 But...

01:35:22.000 You guys see the Bill Maher thing with Neil deGrasse Tyson?

01:35:24.000 Yeah, I saw clips.

01:35:25.000 So if you go back a year, Neil deGrasse Tyson kept arguing in favor of males competing against women, saying...

01:35:30.000 Maybe we should just make a different determination as to how we have different competition between different people.

01:35:37.000 And everyone's like, yes, men versus women, and then weight class, next question, and skill.

01:35:42.000 And he kept saying it.

01:35:44.000 Now that he knows on the wrong side of this, Bill Maher was just ripping into him, and he was like, come on, you're the guy who couldn't tell me why the WNBA couldn't beat the Lakers.

01:35:53.000 And so, you know, he got absolutely just annihilated on the show.

01:35:57.000 Wrecked.

01:35:57.000 Yeah.

01:35:58.000 Because everyone's so just done with it.

01:36:00.000 I'm kind of like...

01:36:01.000 I'm a Bim Hoare fan.

01:36:03.000 I mean, the guy's just hilarious.

01:36:05.000 And I was...

01:36:06.000 I mean, if you read the news, I'd have more respect for him.

01:36:08.000 I liked Neil deGrasse Tyson in 2007 when he was like, Hey, everyone, let's focus on science.

01:36:13.000 Regardless of your feelings, let's focus on science.

01:36:15.000 I thought, that's very cool that this dude is coming out of nowhere and he's talking about science.

01:36:19.000 But man, I don't normally rip on people when they're not around, but that guy is totally overboard.

01:36:23.000 Neil deGrasse Tyson is one of the worst.

01:36:25.000 He's so annoying. 0.98

01:36:26.000 He's so full of himself. 0.74

01:36:28.000 He let his ego get to his head.

01:36:29.000 He thinks he's great.

01:36:30.000 He's anti-science.

01:36:31.000 He's in an echo chamber.

01:36:33.000 His whole persona is consensus, not science.

01:36:34.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.95

01:36:35.000 He repeats crap that he hears from his peers without going outside of his own ego. 0.97

01:36:39.000 It's disturbing. 1.00

01:36:40.000 And he wants to kiss himself on the lips in a mirror.

01:36:42.000 I want a Jordan Peterson, Tyson DeGrasse cage back.

01:36:47.000 My issue is that he aligns his expertise to things that he has no claimed expertise.

01:36:52.000 All right.

01:36:52.000 Like Bill Nye, too.

01:36:54.000 Certainly.

01:36:55.000 People that are speaking out because they're renowned experts in a certain field, in other fields that don't really relate.

01:37:04.000 It's like apples versus a book of matches.

01:37:07.000 Two very different things.

01:37:08.000 That's what Bill Maher's ripping him on.

01:37:10.000 He's like, you're a physicist.

01:37:11.000 Why?

01:37:11.000 You can't talk about public health like you have any kind of credentials.

01:37:14.000 He's like, but I'm a scientist, Bill!

01:37:16.000 We're going to go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that Like button, share the show with everyone you know, literally everyone, and become a member by going to TimCast.com and clicking Join Us.

01:37:26.000 We're going to have a members-only uncensored show where we go deep into the lore of guns and their infringements.

01:37:32.000 And the gentlemen we have with us know all about that.

01:37:35.000 They were there when it was written.

01:37:36.000 Alright, we're going to grab some Super Chats.

01:37:39.000 And it's not an age joke.

01:37:40.000 It's a...

01:37:41.000 Yes, it was.

01:37:42.000 No, it's an Aslan joke from...

01:37:46.000 What's that book called?

01:37:47.000 Narnia?

01:37:48.000 Chronicles of Narnia.

01:37:50.000 There you go.

01:37:50.000 He was like, do not cite the...

01:37:52.000 Dark magic to me when I was there.

01:37:53.000 D-magic, whatever.

01:37:54.000 D-magic.

01:37:56.000 I use that meme a lot when I'm responding.

01:37:58.000 I was there when it was written.

01:38:00.000 All my members are posting on Twitter, come on, get Tim talking about guns.

01:38:05.000 Let's talk about guns.

01:38:06.000 We should touch on this show a little bit during Super Chats because you're running probably the number one charity on the planet that's supporting individual gun rights.

01:38:14.000 Let's grab some Super Chats and then we'll grab some gun questions.

01:38:17.000 So we got Hal Gailey saying, N-A-G-R has always had the best patch and hats.

01:38:23.000 Well, there you go.

01:38:24.000 And we've redesigned some of our stuff.

01:38:27.000 You can see the logo on Ronnie's shirt.

01:38:29.000 We've got two different logos, but one of them we just replaced it.

01:38:32.000 There's a brown Bess on one side, which is the weapon used in our Revolutionary War by both sides, really.

01:38:39.000 And then the other one is a Nemo Arms 6.5 Creedmoor exo-carbon rifle.

01:38:44.000 I actually that's my rifle with a burro scope on it in a Thunderbeast suppressor and like I just decked it out and then took the pick get my art guys do the picture Mike yeah that's a cool gun to put on there because we don't want to just put an AR right that's boring.

01:38:57.000 Here we go.

01:38:58.000 We got Emperor's Champion saying, I get the feeling the NFA and GCA will be replaced in the next five years or so.

01:39:03.000 What is your opinion on that?

01:39:05.000 Good luck getting it through Congress.

01:39:08.000 And I'm saying this from a federal lobbyist who's been doing it for a while and would love to do that.

01:39:16.000 I think we're going to do it in the courts.

01:39:18.000 All you have to do is prove common use and that weapons are just unusual or dangerous.

01:39:29.000 They have to prove that they are either dangerous or unusual in courts, and they can't.

01:39:37.000 I disagree.

01:39:37.000 Because they are...

01:39:39.000 They are actually usual.

01:39:41.000 An AR-15 is more common than the Ford F-150 truck.

01:39:45.000 I agree with your assessment of what you need to prove, but I disagree with that being the standard.

01:39:50.000 And if I was on the Supreme Court, I'd say all guns legal.

01:39:54.000 There will be no infringements.

01:39:55.000 There can be no law returning any weapon of any type, period.

01:39:58.000 Thank you.

01:39:58.000 I would do that too, but they're not going to make things up.

01:40:03.000 They have to look back and look at previous decisions.

01:40:06.000 And the great part was they've got Heller.

01:40:08.000 Yeah, I'd look back at the- They got Heller and they had McDonald, and of course now they have Bruin, and they can go back to the original intent.

01:40:15.000 And when they had privateers and corsairs with cannons and grapeshot, they'd say, the intention of the Founding Fathers was sometimes you hire dudes with warships, private individuals can have warships.

01:40:25.000 Letters of Mark.

01:40:25.000 Absolutely.

01:40:26.000 And nothing has changed by today's standards except for the technology.

01:40:30.000 But that is not grounds for restricting a right.

01:40:33.000 States will have to amend the Constitution.

01:40:35.000 Ergo, you can have nukes.

01:40:37.000 You can have reaper drones.

01:40:38.000 It's the realistic possibility of something like that happening, though, right?

01:40:42.000 So you have... 1.00

01:40:43.000 These people are all cowards. 0.99

01:40:44.000 But see, that's kind of my point, right? 0.99

01:40:46.000 So you have this more...

01:40:48.000 I have more faith, actually, in the Supreme Court.

01:40:50.000 I actually think they're waiting for...

01:40:53.000 We know for a fact that Justice Thomas and Alito were waiting for a case that would, after it's gone through its interlocutory appeals, and that's just a fancy way that my attorneys tell me, and I'm not an attorney, you know, they tell me it's and that's just a fancy way that my attorneys tell me, and I'm not an attorney, you know, they tell me it's all these

01:41:14.000 And in the post-Bruin world, if the Supreme Court will take the merits of a case that are broad, like they may on the Maryland assault weapons ban, which is the Snope case, if they do, they probably rip apart every single restriction in America. they probably rip apart every single restriction in America.

01:41:34.000 Magazine bans, assault weapons bans, other Any ridiculous notions of pistol braces and bump stocks?

01:41:42.000 And sorry, both parties are complicit in that, and many of those.

01:41:46.000 And forced reset triggers, if you've ever seen that issue?

01:41:50.000 But you know that quote they say from Trump about banning bump stocks and banning guns was fake, right?

01:41:54.000 So I've heard Luke say this over and over again about how Trump said, I go for the guns first and then go to the courts later.

01:42:00.000 That's a fake quote.

01:42:01.000 That's not real.

01:42:02.000 Sorry.

01:42:03.000 That is a live recording.

01:42:05.000 I watched it live.

01:42:06.000 Out of context.

01:42:07.000 And he wasn't saying literally what I will do.

01:42:09.000 I watched the whole thing.

01:42:10.000 I had people in the room.

01:42:11.000 That is not true.

01:42:13.000 All right.

01:42:13.000 Donald Trump was terrible on guns.

01:42:18.000 But, of course, Kamala Harris was worse. 1.00

01:42:21.000 And, of course, Joe Biden is worse.

01:42:23.000 But in terms of taking steps in the wrong direction, the big thing that was really bad about the bump stocks...

01:42:29.000 I don't own a bump stock.

01:42:31.000 I own real machine guns.

01:42:32.000 I think bump stocks are kind of lame.

01:42:34.000 But I don't want to ban them.

01:42:37.000 And I don't think it's going to save any lives whatsoever.

01:42:42.000 However, the...

01:42:44.000 The problem was it was an executive action that Donald Trump took to ban an entire class of AR-15 part.

01:42:51.000 And that's the exact same map that Joe Biden used to ban pistol braces.

01:42:56.000 And both of them are wrong.

01:42:58.000 Both lost.

01:42:59.000 Well, ultimately they lost, but it was very, very close at times.

01:43:06.000 And the simple fact is, that is what politicians will do.

01:43:10.000 My job as a gun lobbyist is to hold the ground and hold people accountable.

01:43:16.000 The politicians must be held accountable from both parties.

01:43:19.000 And they can't get away with just saying things and pushing things, pushing for restrictions on suppressors.

01:43:25.000 Trump did that.

01:43:26.000 He did that when he was in the UK. And many of the things that, of course, Joe Biden tried, all the way back to Barack Obama.

01:43:35.000 We stopped them.

01:43:36.000 Everyone said, well, you couldn't stop Barack Obama after the Newtown, Connecticut shootings, and we did.

01:43:42.000 In fact, the NRA stood on the sidelines and gave, patted, Harry Reid, a member of the Democrat leader of the Senate, patted him on the head and gave him the highest ratings.

01:43:53.000 And then they gave John Cornyn, Their highest rating, even though he ran the red flag law in Congress, right at the same time as the Bruin decision, 22. Let's grab some more superchats.

01:44:05.000 We got I'm Not Your Buddy Guy saying, it's short-sighted to say institutions are beyond reproach, and to maintain civilization we must do everything to maintain them.

01:44:13.000 This is how you get to abuse of authority, as we have all lived through.

01:44:16.000 Accountability is necessary.

01:44:18.000 We agree with that.

01:44:19.000 We actually agree.

01:44:20.000 So I'm not sure you took me in context, but I just believe that at some point you have to trust institutions.

01:44:27.000 And I mean, most people, I saw some articles that said Americans believe that this was a fair election in 2024. It sure seemed like we had a lot more people watching, paying attention to the potential of fraud and election abuse.

01:44:43.000 But we do have to have some faith in our institutions because that is what we built as a country.

01:44:48.000 But faith is not meant to be blind.

01:44:51.000 So in 2020, when Trump won all the bellwethers and lost, people had questions.

01:44:57.000 How is this possible?

01:44:58.000 Then in 2024, when Trump wins all the bellwethers, and I mean most of them, and then wins, people are like, what is happening?

01:45:04.000 No, he won all of the swing states.

01:45:07.000 All seven.

01:45:07.000 The bellwethers.

01:45:08.000 The counties that overwhelmingly...

01:45:11.000 Yeah, the counties.

01:45:12.000 These are the bellwether counties that always, in majority, like great majority, it's like 19 counties, 17 or so will always vote for the winner.

01:45:21.000 Whoever they vote for ends up winning the election, and you go back, all these different elections, you can see them.

01:45:25.000 They were accurate up till 2020, and then everybody had questions, and then in 2024 they were back to being accurate.

01:45:33.000 Yeah.

01:45:34.000 2020, everything was busted and it didn't make sense.

01:45:36.000 I think 2020 was pretty busted anyway.

01:45:39.000 I mean, we were dealing with all-mail ballot, which I don't like.

01:45:43.000 I live in Colorado where they've been trying to do mail-in ballots.

01:45:47.000 They started that, what, 18 years ago, I think, and doing all-mail ballots.

01:45:53.000 And it's a disaster.

01:45:56.000 But unfortunately, I think it's here to stay.

01:45:58.000 If we could ever change it, we should.

01:46:00.000 Alright, we got the tax vet.

01:46:01.000 He says, if tariffs make things $3 more expensive, but him slashing taxes lets me keep $4, that good is $1 saved, let alone all the jobs that are created here, keeping money in the U.S. instead of going to China or India.

01:46:12.000 I work in bank.

01:46:15.000 So Donald Trump was talking about potentially getting rid of the income tax in favor of tariffs, like it was way, way back in the day.

01:46:22.000 I don't see that as being reality.

01:46:24.000 That's not just a heavy lift that's trying to knock over a skyscraper with a camera.

01:46:29.000 I always worry about, the cynic in me worries that it means tariffs and taxes.

01:46:39.000 It's like we're only going to increase taxes by a little bit and then 100 years later it's 37.5%.

01:46:44.000 Or it's only temporary.

01:46:45.000 Right.

01:46:46.000 How many people live in a municipality that says, we're going to just temporarily increase the taxes?

01:46:51.000 Yeah.

01:46:52.000 Any of those gone?

01:46:53.000 Nope.

01:46:54.000 How many times have we temporarily increased the taxes at this point?

01:46:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:58.000 Basically every time it was temporary.

01:47:00.000 Just for this war.

01:47:01.000 Well, and then just for this one.

01:47:03.000 Well, now we just don't declare the wars.

01:47:04.000 It's just permanent.

01:47:05.000 And we're all under states of emergency, too.

01:47:08.000 All right.

01:47:10.000 Clark Christo says, I'm overwhelmed.

01:47:12.000 I take care of my mom, brother, sister, and nephew, and I only make $21 an hour.

01:47:15.000 None of them will get a job.

01:47:18.000 Yikes.

01:47:18.000 Oh, man.

01:47:19.000 Time for some ultimatums.

01:47:20.000 Yeah, I think you gotta maybe stop enabling.

01:47:24.000 For real.

01:47:25.000 Yeah.

01:47:26.000 How old's your nephew if he's a little kid?

01:47:28.000 Then I get it.

01:47:29.000 But for the people who refuse to get jobs, you just gotta say, Nana, why won't you get a job?

01:47:33.000 You know, one thing you can do is help them with half of their bills if they get a job.

01:47:41.000 Or you can say goodbye.

01:47:43.000 You can also kick them out of your life.

01:47:45.000 But if you want to help them, literally, sometimes, like my mom, it was something she did with me.

01:47:48.000 She's like, look, you can get no job and you're all on your own.

01:47:52.000 Or if you get a job, I'll help you out with half your rent.

01:47:54.000 So I got a job.

01:47:55.000 It was like a double win.

01:47:57.000 And then I got a job.

01:47:59.000 Alright, let's see.

01:48:00.000 The text says, this dude's a lobbyist talking about collective bargaining being uncompetitive.

01:48:04.000 Talk about a pot calling a kettle black, and all his trashing of unions is same to lobbyists.

01:48:09.000 I don't think all lobbyists are the same.

01:48:12.000 I think they're associating with a big corporation.

01:48:14.000 I'd love to make the kind of money most traditional lobbyists make.

01:48:18.000 I turned that down a long time ago.

01:48:20.000 Well, let's clarify what lobbying is, too.

01:48:22.000 Like, if I personally go to a representative from Congress and say, hey, man, we should be allowed to carry weapons, I think you should do something, I'm lobbying them.

01:48:30.000 Well, you don't have to actually register as a lobbyist to do that.

01:48:33.000 There are some thresholds in which, if you're being paid to go and represent people, you know, I represent millions of members who ask me to do this, and I'm not the only lobbyist I have.

01:48:45.000 We have I'm a score of federal lobbyists and work for NAGR. And then we lobby in states.

01:48:52.000 I think I've lobbied 31 states, legislatures, and then Congress in some form or another.

01:48:59.000 And some states have little different requirements.

01:49:02.000 The term comes, lobbying means you sat in the lobby outside the legislative body.

01:49:07.000 And, you know, talk to legislators as they came in and out.

01:49:11.000 But because it's a controversial issue, it's a very different type of lobbying.

01:49:14.000 I always look at myself as, you know, we don't wear Gucci loafers and take people out for $500 dinners.

01:49:24.000 We literally deliver pressure from members, grassroots pressure, and tell the politician, these are people.

01:49:32.000 We deliver the petitions and We want you to vote this way.

01:49:36.000 Thomas Massey and I delivered 1.4 million physical petitions into the U.S. Capitol several years ago opposing red flag.

01:49:46.000 Do you think people should have the right to own nuclear weapons?

01:49:49.000 No.

01:49:50.000 Why not?

01:49:52.000 Well, I'm going to stick with the Second Amendment and my knowledge.

01:49:56.000 And again, I'm no academic.

01:49:58.000 I don't even pretend to be.

01:49:59.000 I'm a bare knuckles brawler in politics.

01:50:00.000 It's all I know how to do legitimately.

01:50:04.000 But I do know that the Second Amendment was written to protect the rights of individuals for small arms.

01:50:11.000 It didn't say I'm not opposed to people owning artillery pieces.

01:50:16.000 I have friends with an anti-tank gun, a World War II anti-tank gun.

01:50:20.000 I've got, I know lots of people with stuff like that, but the Second Amendment actually applies to small arms.

01:50:27.000 So what you're saying is when, back then, people did own cannons and warships, they were basically saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, that can't, it's legal now, but if they want, we could ban it and you can't have those things.

01:50:40.000 I don't know.

01:50:41.000 Because you can still have cannons.

01:50:42.000 I mean, I wish I'd said I knew.

01:50:43.000 I don't honestly know about why they wrote what they wrote.

01:50:48.000 I was listening to a podcast, IRL, just from a couple days ago, and you guys were talking about that, and Christianity, right?

01:50:56.000 With Milo, which was a very fascinating discussion.

01:51:00.000 It was Article 4 of the 17 articles, I think.

01:51:02.000 Yeah.

01:51:03.000 But I will say that, remember the Miller case, you guys are familiar with the Miller case.

01:51:09.000 That was the seminal court case the Supreme Court ruled on, or kind of didn't rule, but Miller set the tone.

01:51:16.000 And this was, Miller's an interesting case in that it was a couple of moonshiners who got caught with a still, but there was no alcohol in the still, and the revenuer had to charge him with something.

01:51:26.000 So they charged him with a violation of the 1934 National Firearms Act because they had a short shotgun.

01:51:32.000 And here's the problem.

01:51:35.000 They appealed it and the decision kept going up the court.

01:51:38.000 And what their defense was, this shotgun was used by the military and therefore by an infantryman in the military.

01:51:47.000 It was standard that they would use it and therefore we get to own it because the Second Amendment says so.

01:51:58.000 And they got all the way up the U.S. Supreme Court and guess what?

01:52:01.000 They are moonshiners.

01:52:03.000 They didn't show up.

01:52:04.000 You know what's funny?

01:52:05.000 I just pulled up the Bill of Rights Wikipedia, not that it's a great source, but it says the federalists were concerned the Bill of Rights would actually create procedural uncertainties and that the states could guarantee rights better.

01:52:15.000 Who cared?

01:52:15.000 The federal government wasn't that strong.

01:52:16.000 And that's a horrifying thing because, especially after the Civil War, this country became under the boot of the federal government, who then decides what you can and can't do.

01:52:23.000 So thank the heavens for the Bill of Rights.

01:52:26.000 Yeah.

01:52:28.000 But the Bill of Rights really covers small arms.

01:52:31.000 And I like the joke.

01:52:33.000 I mean, we make that joke with politicians when we're vetting them before they run for office.

01:52:39.000 We ask them, what's your stance on guns?

01:52:42.000 And a couple of them said, tank in every garage.

01:52:45.000 And it's a great joke, but the Second Amendment actually doesn't cover guns.

01:52:50.000 So, clarification, it was the fifth article in the first iteration of the 17 articles, ultimately ended up with the Second Amendment, which stated, It doesn't say anything about small arms.

01:53:13.000 Why do you think it means small arms?

01:53:16.000 By the debates and the records we have of the Second Amendment during the Bill of Rights debate, that's where it came from.

01:53:26.000 And I think we're going to end up We're essentially finding out exactly where those limits are.

01:53:37.000 And the question was repeal of the NFA and 68 Gun Control Act.

01:53:43.000 And I believe we're going to end up there.

01:53:44.000 That might be one of the lines we get to.

01:53:47.000 It's not really about size.

01:53:48.000 It's about explosive force.

01:53:49.000 And that just indicates electrical power.

01:53:51.000 Because if you have enough physical electricity, you can create like a rail cannon that can go through solid steel and like...

01:53:59.000 Where does the line start?

01:54:01.000 It starts to blur with energy.

01:54:04.000 That's a good question.

01:54:06.000 I do believe it's going to stop where infantryman carries an M4. Well, so if that's the case, you would include, you know, all belt-fed, man-portable, even if they're teen, correct?

01:54:21.000 I like the way you think, Phil.

01:54:22.000 I mean, you know, Saws and 240, they all would be considered, you know, small arms. 0.99

01:54:30.000 Darn right!

01:54:31.000 So for me, when you start to talk about small arms, the terms small and big are relative, and I'm happy that they are. 0.96

01:54:39.000 LAUGHTER But, you know, I mean, Dudley, he's the president of NAGR. I'm relatively new to the team.

01:54:45.000 I've only been here for about a month.

01:54:47.000 And the guy taught me to shoot extreme long range, had me shooting and hitting at over 1,800 yards the first time really trying that.

01:54:56.000 He's a shooter.

01:54:57.000 We might personally disagree on where the boundaries of the Second Amendment are, but what I'm learning, though...

01:55:03.000 Is that he better knows the levers necessary to apply and enact change.

01:55:09.000 So I think that's one of the things that kind of always drew me to NAGR. So I can only look this thing up so far.

01:55:15.000 The Virginia Constitution, one of the precursors of the Second Amendment, says that keep among us in times of peace standing armies and ships of war, affecting to render the military independent of and superior to the civil power.

01:55:28.000 Standing armies and ships will say that one more time.

01:55:30.000 That was cool.

01:55:30.000 And they have the Declaration of Rights, that a well-regulated militia composed of the body of the people trained to arms is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, that standing armies in times of peace should be avoided as dangerous to liberty, and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination and governed by the civil power.

01:55:47.000 Ships of war.

01:55:48.000 That was the Virginia Constitution.

01:55:50.000 And so then you have Pennsylvania, that the right of the people to keep and bear arms are defensive themselves and the state, that standing armings in times of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up, and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.

01:56:02.000 That's interesting.

01:56:03.000 Remember you had privateers?

01:56:04.000 Yep.

01:56:04.000 And Corsair, yeah.

01:56:05.000 Privateer warships who supplemented the civil powers or rebelled against the civil powers, however you look at it.

01:56:17.000 Some of it, of course, was what really kicked off our revolution?

01:56:21.000 What started our revolution?

01:56:23.000 They were trying to seize the guns.

01:56:24.000 They were trying to seize the guns and conquered.

01:56:27.000 And, by the way, a place where you can't actually carry a gun.

01:56:31.000 And Springfield had to leave.

01:56:32.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:56:34.000 That's why I don't live in Massachusetts anymore.

01:56:35.000 That's one of the major reasons why I don't live in Massachusetts anymore.

01:56:38.000 So I would argue that if, so we've got Vermont, Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Maryland, Virginia, all of these, they're all saying standing armies should not be kept because they are dangerous to peace.

01:56:50.000 The civilian population must be trained and armed.

01:56:55.000 How could you actually defend the state if these people did not have cannons?

01:57:00.000 And you can, of course, have cannons now.

01:57:03.000 I mean, black powder cannons.

01:57:05.000 Yeah, you always could.

01:57:06.000 And a bowling ball mortar.

01:57:08.000 You ever seen one of those?

01:57:09.000 You can literally make out of an acetylene tank and make a mortar.

01:57:14.000 You just cut the end off.

01:57:15.000 It's legal. 0.99

01:57:16.000 And you could shoot bowling balls. 0.91

01:57:18.000 With black powder. 0.88

01:57:19.000 Free Syrian Army.

01:57:19.000 I'm telling you, it's so much fun.

01:57:21.000 It may not be legal in your area.

01:57:22.000 Consult your local law.

01:57:23.000 Free Syrian Army.

01:57:25.000 Don't do that at home.

01:57:26.000 Alright, here we go.

01:57:27.000 The text vet says it takes money to sue and most people don't have the money to go against multi-million dollar lawyers.

01:57:32.000 That is why you can't win against government.

01:57:34.000 Just sue is an elitist position reserved for people too out of touch.

01:57:37.000 I'm an elitist apparently.

01:57:39.000 Wow.

01:57:39.000 I don't think he's talking about you.

01:57:41.000 You also can enact class action if you really need to fund a...

01:57:44.000 Come on, if you've got a good case, there are always lawyers who want to do it.

01:57:49.000 Yeah, the issue is that the government has infinite money.

01:57:52.000 Yes, that's correct.

01:57:53.000 Tim, right now our foundation has nine federal lawsuits against assault weapons ban, magazine bans, the ATF's restriction on forced reset triggers.

01:58:07.000 We're all over it, and we know we're running against government.

01:58:11.000 When are we going to see the Supreme Court rule on selective state weapons bans and overrule them and say you can't do that anymore?

01:58:17.000 That's where it's probably going to be if they grant cert to Snopes. 0.99

01:58:22.000 That's the Maryland assault weapons ban case.

01:58:24.000 It's the one furthest along. 1.00

01:58:27.000 Good, because Maryland's got the stupidest laws. 1.00

01:58:29.000 Yes, and it's furthest along in the court system. 0.99

01:58:33.000 Now, we had a case that was being propelled quite quickly in Superior, Colorado, and it actually got wrapped up with the city of Boulder and the county of Boulder, and we had four municipalities in one case.

01:58:47.000 And it's an assault weapons ban and magazine ban in one little tiny town.

01:58:51.000 And when they enacted it, and then the ruined decision happened, and so we're like, well, let's file suit against this little tiny town and make them defend it.

01:58:58.000 Well, of course, it's Bloomberg's attorneys actually doing the defense.

01:59:01.000 They fly in from New York for all the court cases.

01:59:04.000 And so all we had to prove is common use, that an AR-15 is in common use, and therefore it's not unusual.

01:59:18.000 I think that's just a weird standard.

01:59:20.000 So I always complain about this because it happened to us.

01:59:23.000 In Maryland, M1As are illegal assault weapons.

01:59:27.000 They're totally banned.

01:59:28.000 SCAR-20S, totally legal.

01:59:31.000 So Luke Krakowski comes by, and he's like, I have a Scar 20S. And I'm like, wow, that's really, really cool.

01:59:36.000 65 Creedmoor?

01:59:37.000 No, no, I think it was 308. What's the justification for that?

01:59:43.000 They're insane people who don't know what they're talking about.

01:59:45.000 No, they wrote the, by definition, restriction instead of a broad, you know, certain categories. 0.61

01:59:51.000 And so the Scar 20S was not out when they wrote the band. 0.81

01:59:56.000 Yeah.

01:59:57.000 No, that was true.

01:59:58.000 That was true.

02:00:00.000 That was true of a lot of states, Will.

02:00:02.000 They don't write it.

02:00:03.000 But the, quote, smart ones, are there any smart commies? 0.99

02:00:08.000 They write those bans to say, oh, well, it's got a pistol grip and it's magazine-fed.

02:00:13.000 And some of them, they just go way over the line.

02:00:16.000 7.62, but I think that's...

02:00:18.000 Largely indisputable.

02:00:19.000 When you're proving usuality and...

02:00:22.000 Luke, the Scar 20s, I think 7.62 is what... 0.81

02:00:25.000 I think that's what Luke had.

02:00:27.000 If it's a.308, it's 7.65, 51. Right.

02:00:29.000 Yeah, okay.

02:00:30.000 But the guy at my gun store is like, don't mix them up because one goes one way the other because the pressure is different or whatever.

02:00:36.000 Yes.

02:00:36.000 So the pressures are different between, like, the NATO 7.62x51 and...

02:00:40.000 Like, you can put one in one, but not one in the other.

02:00:42.000 I thought the 20S designation was just 6.5 Creedmoor, actually, is both.

02:00:48.000 That was the issue.

02:00:49.000 I think we were both using 7.62, and I was like, why is this...

02:00:52.000 With a 10-round magazine illegal as an assault weapon with iron sights, and then Luke's got this modern weapon with a 30-round magazine, and it's totally fine.

02:01:00.000 They don't care.

02:01:01.000 It's because they have no idea what they're talking about. 1.00

02:01:02.000 The laws make no sense, and they're insane people.

02:01:04.000 Well, unfortunately, here's the problem, is sometimes our people become technocrats, and they go and explain to the commies how to go ahead and change their bills, and they do that.

02:01:16.000 Let's talk about this in the members-only portion.

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02:02:21.000 Right on.

02:02:22.000 No, I just echo what Dudley said.

02:02:24.000 You know, again, I'm relatively new to the gun rights team.

02:02:28.000 I joined it for a reason.

02:02:30.000 My work at Funker 530 has really sustained me.

02:02:33.000 It's, you know, what I've been doing now for quite a few years, and I was enamored with the work that's happening behind the scenes, and I chose to work at NAGR specifically because of the people, because they're shooters, because...

02:02:45.000 You know, Dudley's out on the ground with me by himself, working booths, trying to talk to people, help people understand exactly what's happening behind the scenes.

02:02:55.000 So I would just echo what Dudley said.

02:02:57.000 Right on.

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02:03:00.000 And shout you guys both out on X. It's Dudley W. Brown.

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02:03:08.000 That's me, brother.

02:03:08.000 Dude, I appreciate you guys for coming, man.

02:03:10.000 We didn't touch too much into Funker, but that kind of really opened my eyes to some battlefield trauma.

02:03:15.000 I mean, getting the fight from the perspective of the soldier.

02:03:18.000 Getting that reality out there to people so they better understand it and make better decisions around it is ultimately the mission there.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 26, 2024

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