Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump Declares Antifa FOREIGN Terrorists, It Has Begun

00:01:04.000 Antifa.

00:01:05.000 Several specific anti-fassels have been deemed foreign terrorists.

00:01:09.000 They're largely based out of Europe.

00:01:11.000 This is the State Department under Donald Trump making these first moves.

00:01:15.000 Now, there's not going to be a blanket all Antifa everywhere are foreign terrorists, but this is the move we've been waiting for.

00:01:21.000 Designating antifassels as foreign terrorists now means anybody supplying them, anybody in communication with them are subject to seizure of property, FISA warrants, and this is where Trump is really ramping up the war against far-left terror.

00:01:37.000 So it's going to be interesting to see how exactly that plays out.

00:01:39.000 We're not entirely sure, but a big move nonetheless.

00:01:41.000 And of course, this news actually broke last night, and it didn't get a lot of attention because everybody's too busy talking about Megan Kelly, Ben Shapiro, and Candace Owens.

00:01:50.000 Because now the big story in the morning, which is trending, I kid you not, I turn on the news, or I open up Twitter, X. Sorry, Elon.

00:01:58.000 And what do I see trending?

00:01:59.000 Babylon B made a joke about Megan Kelly throwing away her pager, implying that Israel might kill her, or she thinks they would.

00:02:07.000 And I'm like, oh, here we go.

00:02:08.000 This is the story.

00:02:09.000 And then sure enough, only a little bit after that, I see buried deep on the pages of the internet, Mr. Andy No saying, several anti-fassels have been deemed foreign terrorist organizations.

00:02:18.000 So I'm like, wow, this is what people actually care about.

00:02:21.000 It's the big trending story.

00:02:23.000 Yes, Megan Kelly is outraged, and she's getting accused of hypocrisy by the left over what happened with Ryan Gerduskian's CNN when he made a beeper joke at Medihassan and Mediasan is now going after Megan Kelly.

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00:02:46.000 Yeah, okay, I guess.

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00:06:50.000 Let's get into it.

00:06:51.000 Here's the big news from the New York Post: Antifa groups designated foreign terror organizations for first time.

00:06:58.000 This is massive.

00:06:59.000 The Trump administration formally designated four violent left-wing groups based in Europe as foreign terrorist organizations as part of a broad crackdown on extremism.

00:07:06.000 The State Department announced the intended designation on Thursday, saying the Antifa groups, Antifa Aust, International Revolutionary Front, Armed Proletariat Justice, and Revolutionary Class Self-Defense use force against those they identify as opponents of their Marxist and anarchist projects.

00:07:21.000 The thugs from Germany, Italy, and Greece have carried out dozens of attacks in Europe over recent years, including assaults, bombings of government buildings, and shootings.

00:07:28.000 Holy smokes.

00:07:30.000 State Department is committed to identifying and dismantling these terror networks that conspired to ruthlessly suppress the will of the people and violently undermine the very foundations of the United States and Western civilization.

00:07:41.000 The designation will also bar the radicals from accessing the U.S. financial system and prosecute those that support them.

00:07:47.000 Antifa Aust is based in Germany.

00:07:49.000 They want to describe these groups, but it's Germany, it's Italy, it's Greece.

00:07:52.000 And the reason why this play is so big, it's not about these specific groups in Europe.

00:07:57.000 It's that American Antifa organize with these people.

00:08:01.000 And that means they're going to start going into the finances and communications, get FISA warrants for these groups, and it's going to expose individuals in the United States, link them to these foreign terrorist groups, and it's going to then be a cascade against many of these far-left extremists.

00:08:16.000 I think that's the play.

00:08:17.000 I don't know why they would be doing it so slowly.

00:08:20.000 Maybe they have to announce this because if they want to get these warrants, FISA warrants or otherwise, it has to have this public declaration from the State Department.

00:08:27.000 I wonder if they could do it quietly.

00:08:28.000 But what say all of you?

00:08:30.000 Good, bad, otherwise?

00:08:31.000 You know, honestly, I'm for the, I'm kind of, if I had to pick one, I would say I'm for, I don't, man, I just don't know the legal precedent of just saying, now this group is exactly what I voted for.

00:08:44.000 These people are terrorists.

00:08:46.000 Their intent is terrorism.

00:08:47.000 If you, Tim, if you want, I put a video that Andy No posted in the Slack.

00:08:52.000 And this is emblematic of what they do, right?

00:08:55.000 And this is Europe in particular.

00:08:57.000 This one in particular is Europe.

00:08:58.000 And they're just come up behind this guy with hammers and smash him in the head and start beating the evolution.

00:09:05.000 I don't know if we can show this.

00:09:07.000 It's brutal.

00:09:07.000 Yeah, maybe not, maybe not.

00:09:08.000 But look, I'll play it until he strikes.

00:09:11.000 So this is, they're called Hammer Band, and they hammer attack people.

00:09:18.000 Here's the video.

00:09:20.000 Oh, 20 years in prison.

00:09:22.000 Yeah, and you don't see it in this, but there's probably like 10 of them, maybe 15 of them, maybe 10 of them that come after him.

00:09:30.000 They beat him to the ground, and then they mace him when they leave.

00:09:33.000 Well, that's conspiracy then.

00:09:34.000 There's multiple people.

00:09:35.000 I mean, 40 years.

00:09:36.000 But the point is, these people are terrorists, and you can't treat them like with kid gloves.

00:09:42.000 Now, granted, in the U.S., you don't get that kind of stuff, largely because we're an armed population.

00:09:48.000 But in Europe, they're not.

00:09:49.000 And the way that these Antifa terrorists are acting in Europe, like Tim said, they work with people in the U.S.

00:09:57.000 They communicate with people in the U.S. There are people like Tim has mentioned before that they call tourists that go from one protest to another protest.

00:10:05.000 These people need to be treated like the terrorists they are.

00:10:08.000 They need to be locked up for as long as we possibly can because the point of Antifa, unquestionably, is to degrade the social fabric of the U.S.

00:10:18.000 They want to see the United States fall apart.

00:10:20.000 They're literal anarchist communists.

00:10:22.000 So I actually think this muddies the waters.

00:10:25.000 Rudy Giuliani told us when I was doing Mafia States of America with Vali Tama back in the day, we interviewed him, and he made the argument four years ago that this was a cut-and-dry RICO case, that this was organized, this was financed.

00:10:38.000 And if you throw one Antifa thug, like you're saying, in prison for disorderly conduct or taking the pallets of bricks that magically appeared everywhere and throwing it through a window, okay, they're out in a month and they're probably getting paid to go to another protest.

00:10:53.000 But if you take that disorderly conduct and you use it as precedent to run it up the line for who paid for them to be there, who got their plane ticket, who bought their food, and you get all the way up to the top of the organizer, that's how they broke the mob.

00:11:05.000 I grew up in New York and New Jersey and Rudy Giuliani used RICO to break the mob.

00:11:10.000 And there's no reason that they shouldn't have been doing this for years here with Antifa, with Black Lives Matter, with these organizations.

00:11:16.000 I'd go after Justice Democrats.

00:11:17.000 I'd think Psycott Chakrabati is the most dangerous man in the world.

00:11:20.000 So that being said.

00:11:22.000 We're going to find all those connections.

00:11:24.000 That's what's going to give me real interesting.

00:11:25.000 It's not just about Antifa.

00:11:26.000 What happens when a foreign terrorist organization, they find communications between DSA members?

00:11:34.000 Because this is the overlap.

00:11:36.000 These people who are likely involved in Democratic socialists are going out as Antifa later and they're organizing internationally.

00:11:42.000 I'd be willing to bet it's going to turn out the people they end up arresting or investigating the United States are going to be Democrats, DSA, Democrats, young people.

00:11:52.000 The aspect of it that I'm a little concerned with is the randos that are like, yeah, I hate fascism.

00:11:58.000 I'll go march one day.

00:11:59.000 Don't let them go out.

00:12:00.000 And those people are not going to have communications with Antifa Europe.

00:12:05.000 It's going to be the organizers that they're going after.

00:12:06.000 To your point, I was just at the No Kings protest and doing our little comedy thing.

00:12:11.000 And 99%, it's a social event for these folks.

00:12:15.000 They're just showing up there having a good time.

00:12:16.000 Yay for our side.

00:12:17.000 But then there's very clear organizers that are directing people, that are handing things out that are well-funded.

00:12:25.000 And that's what this comes down to.

00:12:26.000 You have to, the only way you're going to defeat this and be a counter-revolutionary is you got to get rid of their funding, their financing.

00:12:33.000 As soon as the money spigot turns off, this professional protester class goes away.

00:12:38.000 This is their job.

00:12:39.000 And Ian, to your point, right?

00:12:41.000 The people that oftentimes engage in the low-level street violence are people that don't have significant connections or whatever.

00:12:49.000 They're the people that they're the people that are there because they're there for the violence or they're there for the party or they're there for whatever.

00:12:56.000 And the reason they engage in these activities is because they don't have anything to lose.

00:13:00.000 The organizers will go and they will incite stuff, right?

00:13:03.000 The people that actually have connections with the upper echelons or whatever, however you want to frame it.

00:13:09.000 But the people that are actually on the street throwing bricks, the people that are actually on the street lighting fires, they're people that don't have a whole lot going on in their life.

00:13:17.000 That's part of why they actually will do this stuff is they don't have a lot to lose.

00:13:21.000 If you've got kids and a family or a job or some kind of some kind of public recognition, something recognizable by the public, you don't want to do this kind of stuff.

00:13:31.000 You don't want to go and throw bricks through windows because you have something to lose.

00:13:35.000 The No Kings, it was shocking how much of like a social event this was.

00:13:38.000 Like this is their friends.

00:13:39.000 They're there to, we're part of, hey, good to see you again.

00:13:42.000 This was their tailgate.

00:13:43.000 People don't remember this a lot, but that was a lot of the riots that were going on during Black Lives Matter.

00:13:49.000 The people that were getting together at night were different people than were at the protests during the day.

00:13:54.000 Because during the day, you have the people that are protesting peacefully.

00:13:56.000 At night, you have basically the people that have little to lose.

00:14:00.000 You have your, exactly, like the people that, that, people that, that went after Rittenhouse in Kenosha, they were people like, you know, Rosenbaum didn't have some kind of deep ideological bent.

00:14:12.000 He was there looking to get into fights with people because he didn't have crap going on in his life.

00:14:16.000 Did you guys say that youth unemployment right now is around 10%?

00:14:19.000 That's insane.

00:14:20.000 Record eye.

00:14:21.000 Yeah, I just want to say that we need to treat the root causes.

00:14:21.000 Record eye.

00:14:24.000 And I think this move is signaling that instead of treating symptoms, which is going after people who have no money, no status, and they're just there as pawns.

00:14:33.000 I think that's that's a great move on that.

00:14:33.000 Yeah.

00:14:35.000 I think it's a great point.

00:14:36.000 You pick those people up if they're you pick those people up if you catch them doing something wrong.

00:14:41.000 But I think your point about the Rico Rico using this Rico case is exactly right.

00:14:45.000 Deborah and I were talking about this before.

00:14:47.000 Part of it is messaging too, right?

00:14:49.000 Like you just said, 10% youth unemployment.

00:14:51.000 It's a 9.4, I think.

00:14:53.000 So what is the message to conserve?

00:14:55.000 Like what are you telling a 24-year-old in New York that you should conserve?

00:15:00.000 Indian laborers and Chinese students.

00:15:02.000 So there you go, right?

00:15:03.000 And look, if it were up to me, we wouldn't be paying for any of this stuff, but it's a very hard sale to have people who grew up watching for 20 years of their life, trillions of dollars be spent on killing people in the Middle East to then say, oh, look, we don't have any money for healthcare.

00:15:18.000 That's a tough sell.

00:15:19.000 It's a tough sell when you're seeing all of this money go overseas, Ukraine, Israel, wherever, and say, yeah, hey, sorry, your kid has cancer, but you know, them be the breaks.

00:15:28.000 That's a tough message.

00:15:30.000 That's a tough thing.

00:15:31.000 When, hey, sorry, you know, you went to college and that job doesn't exist anymore and you'll never own a house, but you know, don't vote for change.

00:15:39.000 Tough message.

00:15:40.000 Yeah.

00:15:41.000 You know, Tim, you've been saying something recently, which is we need to understand the enemy.

00:15:46.000 So this whole Antifa thing needs to get snuffed out immediately and needs to be met with brute force because if not, and his presidency will end, what, three years from now, what's going to happen then?

00:15:58.000 We got the midterms of the year, man.

00:16:00.000 Like, if they don't address it now, what will happen then?

00:16:03.000 Well, there's going to be more assassinations.

00:16:07.000 I think the big challenge we have is the right has just shattered since Charlie Kirk's killing.

00:16:17.000 It's just completely shattered.

00:16:19.000 It's like a problem and an opportunity because there's not a lot of leadership.

00:16:22.000 Opportunity for the left.

00:16:23.000 Even more an opportunity for someone on the right to step up.

00:16:25.000 Even with Charlie Kirk, do you ever think the right had the will to see something like this through to the end?

00:16:31.000 What do you mean?

00:16:32.000 Okay, let's say that this, okay, they're going to move to now take this to indictments.

00:16:39.000 They're going to move to now take this to Rico.

00:16:41.000 Are they going to have the will to actually see it through to the end?

00:16:44.000 No.

00:16:45.000 I think what's happening right now, the only pollsters that matter, you've got Rez Musson and you've got Rich Barris, are talking about how Gen Z is basically, they're done.

00:16:54.000 Trump has abandoned them.

00:16:56.000 Trump's basically saying, I surrender with this H-1B stuff.

00:16:59.000 So they're going to look at this and they're going to be like, okay, there's nothing for us on the right now.

00:17:03.000 Trump's not, he's off message.

00:17:05.000 And again, this is all following the death of Charlie Kirk.

00:17:09.000 The right is off balance and the presumption is they're not going to do anything.

00:17:13.000 You've got a guy threw a sandwich at a Fed, which at the bare minimum is a conviction on a slap on the wrist of some sort.

00:17:20.000 Nah, free to go.

00:17:21.000 So even if they do charge these people and bring them before courts, liberals are going to be like, nah, they're good.

00:17:26.000 And they're going to acquit them even if it does happen.

00:17:28.000 These mortgage fraud cases, is that the best they can do?

00:17:31.000 Really?

00:17:32.000 You know, okay, whatever, I guess.

00:17:34.000 When Trump came out and said there's no talent in this country, he really, really damaged the coalition.

00:17:41.000 But I got to be honest, as we're mentioning earlier, this news on Antifa broke yesterday, but all of the fee was dominated by talk of Candice, Ben Shapiro, Megan Kelly, and Israel is more important because these people who are just absolutely retarded online have, you know, I'll put it like this.

00:18:04.000 I think the Israel conversation is the perfect opportunity to dismantle and destroy the right coalition because it's an issue that regular Americans don't know or care about.

00:18:13.000 You talk to your average person on the street, they're going to be like, yeah, I guess I like Israel, whatever.

00:18:16.000 Some are going to be like, no, I don't care for them or what they do.

00:18:19.000 But if you go to them and ask them, what's the most important thing to you right now?

00:18:21.000 Gen Z is going to say, I have no money.

00:18:23.000 They're going to say, I'm buying food on credit card debt.

00:18:25.000 I can't get an apartment.

00:18:26.000 I can't find a job.

00:18:27.000 I can't buy a car.

00:18:28.000 And what do you find when you go online to the top personnels and pundits?

00:18:31.000 True crime drama nonsense.

00:18:33.000 And Trump is doing interviews where he's like, you don't matter.

00:18:36.000 We give up.

00:18:37.000 So it's just very, very demoralizing.

00:18:41.000 I think the expectation is going to be all of these, these are all grains of sand or they're all snowflakes in the avalanche.

00:18:47.000 We said maybe when it gets colder out, there's going to be bigger moves against Antifa.

00:18:51.000 Okay, this is a start.

00:18:53.000 There's going to be bigger moves on immigration.

00:18:55.000 Maybe we'll see.

00:18:56.000 But come on, 500,000 deportations out of 11 million on the low end, you're never going to get it done.

00:19:02.000 So it all seems like we're in an avalanche and Trump's not even promising to climb back up.

00:19:10.000 He's saying, let's just write it down.

00:19:12.000 Well, he's been America first.

00:19:14.000 He got elected for America first.

00:19:15.000 And whether it's true or not, the optics are he has not been an American first president for the first year here.

00:19:21.000 He's been focused on international things that, to your point, if I'm a 22-year-old and I can't pay my bills, what the hell do I care about Ukraine, Israel, Palestine?

00:19:30.000 I don't care.

00:19:32.000 I could help you, Trump.

00:19:33.000 And I know you listen to this, and maybe, you know, with your massive audience, you can help get this out.

00:19:37.000 But he should, and I know we said this earlier, he should go all in on student loan forgiveness and say it's not going to come out of any taxpayers.

00:19:46.000 It is a consumer protection issue.

00:19:49.000 And just like Lemon Laws, when a corporation, when Chevy sells you a bad car, you can bring it back and get your money back.

00:19:55.000 They should be able to take their degrees, return the degree, and have the colleges be liable for that.

00:20:03.000 Go after the endowments that are the war chest for this far-left-wing extremism.

00:20:09.000 Harvard University's $55 billion endowment is the war chest.

00:20:13.000 It's the epicenter for this entire woke mind virus that has infected the West.

00:20:17.000 And you could do three things.

00:20:18.000 One, you can show the youth that you're fighting for them.

00:20:21.000 You could break the shackles of indentured servitude that we've had on three generations now.

00:20:25.000 And three, you could force the Democrats to have to defend student loans, right?

00:20:30.000 Or, or we can talk about Megan Kelly with this story from theindependent.co.uk.

00:20:35.000 Right-wingers accuse Babylon B of inciting murder against Megan Kelly with a deleted pager bomb joke.

00:20:41.000 Quote, this is a fun way for the Babylon B to call for murder, one conservative podcaster reacted to the since deleted post.

00:20:47.000 I just want to take a moment to say we were just discussing how Antifa has been designated a foreign terrorist organization, certain Antifa cells.

00:20:54.000 It's important.

00:20:56.000 We're talking about what we can do to inspire young people who are currently feeling dejected.

00:21:02.000 And I just want to add, we will cover this story, but I want to make sure everyone realizes I think you're all retarded.

00:21:08.000 And I'll explain why.

00:21:10.000 So basically, the story is this: The Babylon Bee posted this: Megan Kelly gets rid of old Pager just to be safe.

00:21:18.000 She then, Megan Kelly then quoted the Babylon B saying, WTF Seth Dylan.

00:21:24.000 And Mehdi Hassan chimes in by saying, When a far-right pundit on CNN with me joked about my beeper going off and then got banned by CNN, Megan Kelly had him on her show and they both laughed about it.

00:21:35.000 Yet here is Megan Kelly getting super offended when someone else makes the beeper threat against her or the hypocrisy.

00:21:41.000 I'm going to say it again: you're all retards.

00:21:43.000 Okay.

00:21:44.000 It's not a threat.

00:21:45.000 It's a joke.

00:21:47.000 And I get it.

00:21:48.000 I think the joke is funny because it implies Israel kills people.

00:21:51.000 And that wasn't Babylon B's intention.

00:21:53.000 I think Babylon B deleted it because it's more offensive to Israel to imply they would murder an American pundit for criticizing them.

00:21:59.000 But my point is, it's all just tribal hypocrisy, garbled nonsense.

00:22:03.000 Mehdi Hassan's got another tweet.

00:22:05.000 He says, a reminder of how funny Megan Kelly thought the beeper comment was when it was someone else, a brown Muslim, me on the end of it, not her.

00:22:12.000 Here's the clip.

00:22:15.000 Mehdi Hassan leaned so far into playing the victim.

00:22:21.000 He reminded me of those World Cup soccer players and their drama, pretending that they're hurt so that they can get a red card or whatever on somebody else.

00:22:29.000 It was over the top.

00:22:31.000 He deserves an Academy Award for the, did you just say you want me dead?

00:22:36.000 You just said you want me to be killed?

00:22:39.000 What is he?

00:22:39.000 It's obviously the beeper thing is a reference to what Israel did to Hamas supporters and members of Hamas, where they blew up their beepers and in some cases blew up the men holding the beepers.

00:22:51.000 And he, you were saying, if you support the Palestinians, you later said you thought he said Hamas, maybe he has a beeper.

00:22:58.000 That's, I get that's the comment.

00:23:00.000 But he, how do we get from that to, I hope you die?

00:23:03.000 And notice he didn't say, are you saying I'm a terrorist?

00:23:07.000 His implication is, therefore, I am a terrorist.

00:23:10.000 Well, they're not laughing in the clip.

00:23:11.000 So, you know, crummy post from Mehdi.

00:23:13.000 But I just want to stress: Megan Kelly, I think, is, I'm, I don't know, disappointed.

00:23:23.000 I feel like she's taken a very professional media stance on a lot of things recently.

00:23:29.000 I'll just come out and say it.

00:23:30.000 When Ben Shapiro brought up Candace Owens and called her evil, Megan Kelly's, well, I don't know.

00:23:35.000 I mean, that's, I wouldn't call it evil.

00:23:37.000 I don't, I don't watch that stuff, was like the wishy-washiest, wishy-washiest of responses.

00:23:42.000 And then Megan Kelly put out another video saying, I watched what Candace said and she did not accuse Erica Kirk of being involved in the killing of Charlie.

00:23:50.000 It just reeks to me of faux outrage.

00:23:55.000 There's no moral baseline here as to what you're really mad about.

00:23:58.000 Maybe she's saying WGF Seth Dylan because Seth Dylan's making fun of her, but why are you mad if someone's making fun of you?

00:24:03.000 The Babylon Bees made fun of Candace, Tucker, Nick, and tons of other people.

00:24:06.000 Why should she get special treatment?

00:24:09.000 And I would just say in response to the Ben Shapiro thing, if Ben said something about Candace and you didn't agree, or you didn't know, like it was to me, my response, I'd be like, what did he say?

00:24:18.000 Or like, what did Candace say?

00:24:19.000 That's an old accusation.

00:24:21.000 Yeah, and said, Megan's like, well, I don't know about that.

00:24:23.000 And it's just, yeah, we get it, Megan.

00:24:26.000 You want to be in Candace's camp.

00:24:27.000 She has a really big audience, and you hope that she props you up and you're on her side because you're scared of her audience, whatever.

00:24:33.000 The most demoralizing thing I've seen in the past couple of weeks is the obsession over this kind of nonsense.

00:24:37.000 And this is what we're getting from some of the biggest podcasts in the space.

00:24:40.000 Ben Shapiro, Megan Kelly, and Candace Owens having a drama battle while I'm sitting here being like, why are eggs expensive?

00:24:48.000 Why is milk expensive?

00:24:50.000 The fact that we've got real substantial problems in the U.S., the inflation that hit a couple years ago, like that hasn't worked its way through the economy.

00:25:00.000 Wages have not caught up.

00:25:02.000 People are still suffering.

00:25:03.000 Like you said, there's the crisis of young people getting out of college with massive amounts of student debt.

00:25:11.000 There's the idea that income inequality is a massive problem in the U.S. You've got young people that are becoming more and more extreme in their political views, whether it be to the right or to the left.

00:25:22.000 You have Mom Donnie was just elected in New York.

00:25:24.000 You have the, I forget what her name is, I forget Katie Wilson, the socialist that was elected in Seattle as mayor.

00:25:33.000 These problems are real, tangible problems that are real things that are going to have a massive effect on the United States in the coming five to 10 years.

00:25:42.000 This bickering and arguing about garbage, who knew what about Charlie Kirk when legitimately all the actual evidence is that the official story is probably the most likely.

00:25:58.000 There's a lot of people that are that are looking to just farm as many clicks and as much attention as they can off of the death of Charlie Kirk, and it's disgusting.

00:26:08.000 This is all just garbage.

00:26:09.000 I don't care about Candace's show in the sense of like what her subject matter is.

00:26:14.000 What's demoralizing is that people would rather watch vague conspiracy over Charlie Kirk being murdered by his friends as opposed to Trump talking about visas and the border and the economy.

00:26:29.000 You know, I'm having conversations behind the scenes with media personalities who are talking about CPMs being really low right now.

00:26:35.000 Why are ad rates low when they're supposed to be high?

00:26:38.000 What's happening?

00:26:39.000 And the reason why this is important is that I've mentioned this quite a bit when we're facing economic uncertainty.

00:26:44.000 YouTube CPNs, CPMs, the money you get on YouTube is derived from granular sources.

00:26:50.000 Whereas television is going to sell an ad slot to a big company like Pepsi.

00:26:55.000 You know, Fox might do that.

00:26:56.000 Or they're going to do regional ads somewhat if they're doing digital.

00:26:59.000 With YouTube CPMs, if I make a video and I get $1,000 from that video, $10 of that came from a diner in the outskirts of Omaha.

00:27:10.000 And they bought 25,000 ads so that people in their area watching YouTube will get an ad for their diner.

00:27:17.000 So if you live in the outskirts of Omaha and you watch Tim Cast IRL, an ad will pop up and it'll be like, oh, Johnny Bill's diner just outside of Omaha.

00:27:25.000 They only buy $25 in ads.

00:27:27.000 I get less than half of that.

00:27:28.000 Or actually, I think YouTube takes, you'd have to pull like $16 or something.

00:27:32.000 When your ad rates are going down in November, it's signaling a major economic problem is about to occur.

00:27:40.000 Because this, because this is, it's not me doing one direct sale.

00:27:44.000 I can go to one company and say, give me $100,000, I'll do an ad read for you or four ad reads or whatever.

00:27:49.000 They'll say, yes.

00:27:50.000 We sold a big ad read.

00:27:50.000 And then I go, hey, look at that.

00:27:52.000 But when YouTube CPMs go down and viewership is low in November, something in the economy is happening.

00:27:58.000 So there's two things we're seeing that as people in the media space concerned.

00:28:02.000 And it's that viewership for many prominent conservative personalities and political personnel in general.

00:28:07.000 I'm just talking to the conservative ones.

00:28:09.000 It are low for November.

00:28:10.000 They're supposed to be way higher now as people are staying indoors from the cold.

00:28:14.000 They're not.

00:28:15.000 For us, we've been relatively static.

00:28:17.000 So that would indicate that we're seeing, you're seeing growth and collapse at the same time.

00:28:23.000 So growth in spite of the downturn.

00:28:27.000 When CPMs go down relative to views and views are down, it's indicating one, people are disinterested in the political landscape right now, which is largely in the Gen Z space, which is apocalyptic for Trump in the midterms, because Gen Z is about to turn 30 as we're entering the midterms.

00:28:44.000 They're going to be 28, 29 years old.

00:28:45.000 So this has become a principal demographic for victory for Republicans.

00:28:49.000 And the CPMs going down indicate small businesses are struggling to make money and they're cutting their marketing budgets.

00:28:55.000 We saw this during COVID.

00:28:58.000 And then it's, yeah, but did you hear that like there was a bush and the bush, like it might be a guy?

00:29:04.000 And I'm like, what does the bush have to do with anything?

00:29:07.000 Well, Charlie got shot in the back.

00:29:09.000 And I'm like, okay, but the bush, there's a bush in front of him and there was a guy in there and it looks like a guy in camo.

00:29:16.000 And I'm like, so the bullet from the front of Charlie wrapped around his neck.

00:29:19.000 What the f are you talking about?

00:29:20.000 So you think it's you think it's desperation engagement harvesting?

00:29:23.000 That's what's going on?

00:29:24.000 Well, I certainly think that's that there's a handful of things.

00:29:27.000 I think if you are right now a principal, a political commentator, you better, you better start segwaying out of politics because Trump is losing this incoming generation.

00:29:42.000 And so I certainly think some of that.

00:29:44.000 I'm not blaming Candace for doing women female drama podcasts.

00:29:50.000 That's what she's always done.

00:29:51.000 From Blake Lively to Bridget McCrone to now the murder mystery of Charlie Kirk.

00:29:55.000 Her whole thing has always been female-oriented drama content.

00:30:01.000 And that's why she got the Stanley mug right there.

00:30:02.000 That's like women waited in line for eight hours at Starbucks to get one of those mugs.

00:30:06.000 It's very much a women's show.

00:30:08.000 What we're seeing from it is people care more about that than they do about what's happening politically, because many people on the younger side who we need it's like this, older people are dying, younger people are aging into the political space.

00:30:22.000 We need them to care.

00:30:23.000 They don't care so.

00:30:25.000 So general interest in politics across the board is way lower than it should be for this time of year and the polling data shows us it's because Trump is not getting the job done for young people.

00:30:36.000 I think a lot of people get their information from from X.

00:30:40.000 I just read this, as of the end of october your, your x feed uh algorithm is now being set by GROK.

00:30:46.000 You can go to GROK and direct message it and tell it to change your feed.

00:30:49.000 Always prioritize for you feed.

00:30:52.000 This is saying GROK algorithm.

00:30:54.000 You personalize your feed.

00:30:55.000 You can use direct conversational prompts with Grok.

00:30:57.000 Simply message Grok with specific requests.

00:30:59.000 You can say for 48 hours, change my algorithm.

00:31:02.000 So there's two feeds, for you and following.

00:31:05.000 I never use for you.

00:31:06.000 For you is algorithmically generated posts they send to you, and following is reverse chronological posts from the people you follow.

00:31:12.000 Maybe you can use for you and set it to be like, stop showing me drama content, show me more technical.

00:31:17.000 No, because then it shows you out-of-date things.

00:31:21.000 It's been really bad.

00:31:22.000 I avoid it all.

00:31:23.000 Okay, it might be the, it's probably the future of algorithms is the, you tell the AI what kind of stuff you want to see and it'll show you more of that, but then the default, which is what you're saying.

00:31:30.000 You don't know what I'm submitting from you.

00:31:32.000 What's that?

00:31:32.000 You don't know what it's hiding from you.

00:31:34.000 Always, yeah.

00:31:34.000 Yeah.

00:31:36.000 Go ahead.

00:31:37.000 No, no, no.

00:31:38.000 It's also a clarion call to the content creators, like you're saying, like, don't give your enemies a club to beat you with, man.

00:31:43.000 Like, you know, like, it's desperation and it stinks.

00:31:46.000 How we won and how we kind of fought this counterrevolution was through memes.

00:31:52.000 We won through love.

00:31:53.000 We won through comedy, man.

00:31:55.000 And you're looking at something like that.

00:31:56.000 It's going to be like, what the heck, Seth Dillon?

00:31:56.000 That's an easy one.

00:31:58.000 It's like, I wish Hemeti Hassan cared more about Hassan Piker's dog collar than his beeper.

00:32:04.000 You know, like it's on is literally in China, glazing China right now.

00:32:10.000 So lost our sense of humanity.

00:32:11.000 When we do the Culture War show, the live events we've done have gotten like 800,000 views.

00:32:16.000 It's been fantastic.

00:32:17.000 The clips have been massive.

00:32:18.000 When I did the debate with Brian Shapiro, that one's got hundreds of thousands, and the clips have 300 four, and it's massive.

00:32:25.000 That political debate does really well.

00:32:28.000 When we did the show, so typically the Friday morning shows will get 100,000 to 200,000, not the biggest show ever, once a week, and we have a conversation.

00:32:39.000 When we get a conversation on the assassination of Charlie Kirk, it's got like half a million on YouTube alone and like another 300.

00:32:44.000 It's like 800K.

00:32:46.000 The narrative is very obvious to everybody that even now, it's more interesting to talk about the mystery of Charlie Kirk's murder than public policy.

00:32:55.000 I am, again, I'm stressing this.

00:32:57.000 I'm not going to go.

00:32:59.000 I think it's silly they attacked Tucker for interviewing Nick Fuentez because Tucker is his own person.

00:33:03.000 He can talk about whatever he wants.

00:33:04.000 Candace Owens does this kind of women's-oriented drama show, and she's allowed to do that, and her show's big.

00:33:10.000 What's demoralizing is that people care more about all of that right now at a time when we desperately need to be rallying people as we're entering a midterm year and Trump is off message.

00:33:21.000 I think anti-foot literally shows up and attacks turning point USA attendees.

00:33:26.000 I think they just care about what they see.

00:33:27.000 They're getting fed this guy.

00:33:29.000 I just told Grok, change my algorithm to show me less drama content and more science.

00:33:33.000 Have you done it yet?

00:33:34.000 The point I'm making is YouTube, not Grok.

00:33:36.000 I'm talking about people going on YouTube and people in the news.

00:33:39.000 And what should be the how do we save America message is let's talk about conspiracy.

00:33:46.000 Is it possible that this is inorganic?

00:33:48.000 Is it possible that the way that the far right that you're talking about gets propped up is through left-wing also at Israel stuff too?

00:33:57.000 The answer is yes, but if you operate out of the assumption that everyone's out to get you all the time, you're going to miss what people are actually talking about.

00:34:03.000 More importantly, even if it is propped up, if this is what's being fed to people, as Ian's point, then that's the world they're going to live in.

00:34:10.000 Now I'll tell you, the most frustrating thing is, I don't want to name shame anybody, but there are people who are political personalities, small, not big, regional, and all they're doing is talking about Israel now.

00:34:23.000 And I'm like, you're a retard.

00:34:25.000 I'm sorry.

00:34:26.000 You are retarded.

00:34:27.000 Listen, criticizing Israel, fine.

00:34:30.000 Saying that Israel is the preeminent foreign policy issue for the United States, totally agree.

00:34:34.000 Scott Horton comes on the show and says, listen, Israel and our alliance with them and our funding of them is why we're deeply involved in these Middle Eastern wars we should not be involved in.

00:34:43.000 I say, fair point, 100%.

00:34:45.000 But when you now are attacking Trump on the issue of Israel and you've abandoned your core issue that brought you to prominence in the first place, you've gone retarded.

00:34:55.000 And I'm telling you, I go to the grocery store or I'm hanging out with some younger guys at the casino or at the skate park or whatever.

00:35:03.000 They're not sitting here being like, hey, man, what's up with Israel?

00:35:06.000 They're going, I have no house.

00:35:08.000 And I'm like, well, rest assured, if you go on the internet, you'll find all the prominent personalities will fight against Israel on your behalf.

00:35:14.000 And they're going to go, what?

00:35:16.000 And that's what we are getting.

00:35:17.000 It's Charlie Kirk.

00:35:17.000 It's Israel.

00:35:18.000 And I'm like, man, the coalition is frying.

00:35:20.000 Yeah, both sides are making a huge mistake.

00:35:23.000 The pro-Israel, some of them are going way too far.

00:35:26.000 It's Isra-Israel-disc, why we should love Israel, why we must protect Israel, et cetera.

00:35:32.000 And they go too far and they forget about those issues that you were just discussing.

00:35:36.000 And then on the opposite side, you have anti-Israel.

00:35:38.000 Everything is Israel's fault.

00:35:40.000 And the problem with all of that is you're forgetting about Gen Z. Like, we're just talking about it upstairs.

00:35:45.000 Mandatory trade school in every single university.

00:35:48.000 Is that hard?

00:35:49.000 Is that too much to ask for?

00:35:50.000 No, I think that would have been cool to have a couple of electives that were trade electives.

00:35:54.000 That would have been awesome.

00:35:55.000 Get your hands on like ARC welders and stuff.

00:35:57.000 Right.

00:35:57.000 I'm going to pull up this story.

00:35:58.000 We've got this from Fortune.

00:36:00.000 Is Gen Z the financial anxiety generation?

00:36:03.000 And on top of this, as we get into the Gen Z focus of this, from kellydry.com, October layoffs hit 22-year high.

00:36:10.000 Legal considerations for employees.

00:36:12.000 This is just a blog.

00:36:13.000 But take a look at this.

00:36:14.000 We're looking at, what is it?

00:36:16.000 Verizon, I think, just had mass layoffs.

00:36:18.000 Amazon had mass layoffs.

00:36:20.000 Gen Z has been labeled many things.

00:36:22.000 Digital naves, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:24.000 But financial anxiety they do exhibit.

00:36:27.000 Recent data from Afterpay reveals that more than half of Gen Z consumers report getting the ick from credit cards, with 63% switching to alternative payment methods as a result.

00:36:36.000 Additionally, for the first time in nearly four years, U.S. debit card spending has outpaced credit card growth.

00:36:40.000 Gen Z didn't grow up with the luxury of financial naivety, blah, et cetera, et cetera.

00:36:45.000 The point is, they say Gen Z's approach to money has created an entirely new category of financial products.

00:36:50.000 The philosophy behind what I think is conscious spending, et cetera, et cetera.

00:36:54.000 We get the point.

00:36:55.000 The general idea, however, is that Gen Z is not able to make enough money to get apartments.

00:37:03.000 They're competing with illegal immigrants and quote unquote refugees who get free spaces.

00:37:07.000 They're buying food on credit cards because they don't make enough to simultaneously have an apartment and have credit cards.

00:37:12.000 And it's happening at greater and greater rates, which is going to result in Gen Z dissociating or going communist.

00:37:19.000 So I think what we're seeing now is Gen Z leftists are basically saying, there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

00:37:25.000 Society that you have built has left me destitute.

00:37:28.000 So I will vote for Zohran Mamdani and AOC to take it from you.

00:37:32.000 And I don't care if the system burns down.

00:37:34.000 One thing I think everybody needs to understand, let me tell you my perspective in 2008 when I was in my early 20s.

00:37:42.000 The news is breaking.

00:37:43.000 The economy is collapsing.

00:37:44.000 People are getting laid off.

00:37:45.000 And you know what I said?

00:37:46.000 I laughed.

00:37:46.000 You want to know why I laughed?

00:37:47.000 Because I said, here's the floor, right?

00:37:49.000 I want everyone to understand.

00:37:50.000 Here's the floor.

00:37:51.000 Here's me.

00:37:52.000 Here's you.

00:37:53.000 The economy collapses.

00:37:54.000 I don't move an inch.

00:37:56.000 I was already in bad shape.

00:37:57.000 Things were already bad for me.

00:37:58.000 So I'm not going to be, oh no, woe is me.

00:38:01.000 The market's collapsing.

00:38:02.000 I don't see it.

00:38:03.000 I was already sleeping on couches and barely making enough money as it is.

00:38:06.000 So now when you have these Gen Z, these young Gen Z leftists, you can go to them and say, if you vote for Zohren Mandani or AOC, you will burn down the economy.

00:38:15.000 They'll go, and I am not serviced by this economy.

00:38:18.000 I don't care if it's destroyed.

00:38:19.000 Yeah, but it'll go Mad Max.

00:38:21.000 Don't care.

00:38:22.000 I'll get what I can and get out.

00:38:24.000 What do you get on the right?

00:38:25.000 The right just simply says Trump's abandoned us and they go Zoomerwaffin.

00:38:29.000 They say, we got to form our own communities.

00:38:30.000 We got to restructure government.

00:38:32.000 We need more authoritarian controls.

00:38:34.000 I'm not calling them Nazis and saying they're authoritarian.

00:38:36.000 I'm saying nationalists.

00:38:37.000 They want more authoritarian controls.

00:38:39.000 They want more restrictions on cultural and social issues to restore a vision of what America used to be.

00:38:46.000 That's the traditional conservative nationalist approach.

00:38:51.000 Both sides are going to say, the make America great again is not the path for me.

00:38:56.000 And then what's going to happen?

00:38:58.000 The left is going to win, extract as much as they can, break and burn the system.

00:39:03.000 And then those of us of moderate means, me, of course, obviously above that.

00:39:07.000 I'm not trying to act like I'm not.

00:39:10.000 But the people who have worked hard and found success are going to be stripped of that value and destroyed by an underclass that has upset the system, has abandoned them.

00:39:18.000 You know, the ping-ponging of Democrats get elected, then Republicans, then this guy failed me.

00:39:22.000 Now this guy failed me.

00:39:23.000 It's like, there's definitely outside forces manipulating that thing.

00:39:27.000 So your hero gets in and then you realize he's not the hero you wanted.

00:39:30.000 And then you look the other direction, you vote for them, then you realize they're not the hero you thought they were.

00:39:33.000 And then, but like at the top is like the Federal Reservist, the banker is like bankrupting everybody and making billions of dollars.

00:39:40.000 The liberal economic order is cooked.

00:39:42.000 I hope.

00:39:43.000 And that's why Hassan's in China.

00:39:44.000 What's that?

00:39:45.000 And that's why Hassan is in China.

00:39:46.000 China and the World Economic Forum, they seem to be competing with the liberal economic order that's trying, that's rupturing.

00:39:51.000 No, no, no Davos is the liberal economic order.

00:39:53.000 And then there's the Chinese, the BRICS, the communist technocracy.

00:39:57.000 BRICS, right.

00:39:57.000 Where they'll just delete your bank account if you jaywalk or if you say the wrong words, violate the order.

00:40:03.000 That's what Zumerwaffen's going to want.

00:40:06.000 I've been thinking like that.

00:40:07.000 That's what they're going to want.

00:40:08.000 The younger Gen Z guys are going to say, we shouldn't let leftists burn everything down and we shouldn't let these people steal from us.

00:40:14.000 We need harder controls.

00:40:15.000 And they're going.

00:40:17.000 So the issue is.

00:40:18.000 The Spanish Civil War.

00:40:21.000 It's a question not of authoritarianism.

00:40:23.000 It's a question of tradition versus progressivism.

00:40:26.000 So the communist rise like Spain or Germany and Italy is fascists.

00:40:32.000 They are traditionalist authoritarian.

00:40:34.000 Communists, progressivist authoritarian.

00:40:38.000 The communists are like, destroy history, burn the books, and then we're going to blank slate.

00:40:43.000 The fascists are like, protect our history, burn the progressive books, and then we're going to control the system.

00:40:49.000 Both sides basically saying the other side is the problem.

00:40:53.000 And they both have a morally divergent worldview.

00:40:57.000 So they look at each other as like, you are causing problems to the world that I want.

00:41:01.000 The other side, you are causing problems to the world that I want.

00:41:04.000 Both are in agreement that the old school system of doing things does not function.

00:41:08.000 So Hassan Piker goes to China and said, how does he describe it?

00:41:12.000 He's like, you've got abundant consumerism next to Soviet Arabic.

00:41:18.000 50 Soviet style.

00:41:20.000 Yeah, communist blocs.

00:41:22.000 So Hassan wants to live in a country where the government will go to you and say, your ideas are bad for the machine.

00:41:29.000 Deleted.

00:41:30.000 That's how he wants to live.

00:41:32.000 That's where we're going to go.

00:41:34.000 And I am not convinced.

00:41:36.000 Listen, man, I have given the benefit of the doubt to Cash, Dan, Pam, Trump, and all the people in the Trump administration the whole year.

00:41:44.000 And Trump going on TV and saying more visas, more H-1Bs.

00:41:49.000 I was like, that's it.

00:41:50.000 That's it.

00:41:50.000 I'm done.

00:41:51.000 Yeah, tone deaf.

00:41:52.000 Tone deaf.

00:41:52.000 Listen, I think the solution is pretty simple.

00:41:55.000 Charlie Kirk posted it plenty of times.

00:41:56.000 It's been going around on Twitter so many times now.

00:41:59.000 It's going viral.

00:42:00.000 But I think the bottom line for the Gen Z, for people who are critical thinkers like ourself, is to continue to voice out loud and to provide solutions to them.

00:42:08.000 So like, again, trade school, mindset, financial literacy.

00:42:13.000 Mindset is why?

00:42:14.000 Because if they keep thinking like a victim as progressives want them to think, you're right.

00:42:17.000 They won't care.

00:42:18.000 Burn it all down.

00:42:19.000 You are correct.

00:42:20.000 But here's the problem.

00:42:21.000 Because I made this argument the other day in that video where the guy's like, I'm a student full-time and I only have $17 and I work.

00:42:27.000 And I'm like, opportunity exists.

00:42:29.000 And that is right.

00:42:30.000 And I do think that is a smart play to make.

00:42:32.000 I will add, however, the response that I see from Gen Z is, that's all well and good, Tim.

00:42:37.000 I could work hard, but the communists are coming to take it from me anyway.

00:42:40.000 So it's probably not a good idea to invest in that.

00:42:43.000 The view now is, sure, I could go to trade school.

00:42:45.000 I could work hard.

00:42:46.000 And then once I finally get a house and make money, Zoran Mandani is going to tax me, take my home, and they're going to attack me for being white.

00:42:52.000 And it's like, well, I don't have a response.

00:42:54.000 Well, that is implying that Mondani is going to rule over every city in America.

00:42:59.000 Look at the communists who just won in Seattle.

00:43:01.000 Gen Z Democrats are saying, we will burn your system down and take what we want because we haven't been serviced by this.

00:43:07.000 And then the right's basically saying, even if I were to get a house right now, they're coming after us.

00:43:12.000 And it's the point I'm making is not to give up.

00:43:16.000 You're correct about the trade school and all that stuff.

00:43:18.000 The point is, Trump's supposed to be the leadership saying, we're going to make sure you will be safe if you do right.

00:43:25.000 If you have your house, if you have your family, you'll be protected.

00:43:27.000 Instead, he's like, you won't be.

00:43:29.000 I'm going to bring in Indians and Chinese to take your jobs.

00:43:32.000 You're not going to get training.

00:43:33.000 You're not going to get a career.

00:43:34.000 It's going to go to them.

00:43:35.000 And so the young people are like, okay, Trump's going to take it from me and the communists are taking it from me.

00:43:39.000 So you're going to get Zumerwaffen.

00:43:41.000 Yeah.

00:43:42.000 Well, I was just going to say, I think it confirms exactly who Donald Trump really is.

00:43:45.000 He's a businessman.

00:43:46.000 Yep.

00:43:47.000 A dealmaker, not a conservative, not a Republican.

00:43:51.000 He really didn't run as a conservative.

00:43:52.000 He runs as a reformist.

00:43:56.000 I get it.

00:43:56.000 I'm not nearly as black-pilled.

00:43:58.000 I live in Florida.

00:43:58.000 It's awesome.

00:43:59.000 I think we're going to balkanize a little bit.

00:44:01.000 And to a certain degree, I know this is, you know, I'm going to say this tongue-in-cheek, but good.

00:44:06.000 Let them have socialism.

00:44:07.000 Go ahead.

00:44:07.000 Go for it.

00:44:09.000 It doesn't do us any good to tell you that the stove is hot.

00:44:12.000 You got to touch it.

00:44:13.000 Figure it out for yourself.

00:44:14.000 And they're done.

00:44:14.000 That doesn't work.

00:44:15.000 You don't think so?

00:44:16.000 Chicago.

00:44:17.000 Chicago is a whole different state.

00:44:19.000 But I mean, look what happens in Florida.

00:44:20.000 Now, we are entering the politics of pain.

00:44:20.000 Everybody leaves.

00:44:23.000 And I saw it in my home state of New Jersey where Phil Murphy made it as hard as possible on his own citizens, got rid of 200,000 small business owners in the middle class.

00:44:33.000 They all went to Florida because he won re-election by 38,000 votes.

00:44:36.000 So making it bad is actually good for their power.

00:44:39.000 And I do get that.

00:44:40.000 Agreed.

00:44:40.000 And so what ends up happening now is New Jersey becomes entrenched Democrat.

00:44:44.000 New York becomes entrenched Democrat, Seattle, Portland, California.

00:44:48.000 You get geographic hyperpolarization.

00:44:49.000 You get balkanization.

00:44:51.000 And then you're going to end up with, so someone asked me recently, why is it bad that Mamdani won in New York?

00:44:56.000 Who cares?

00:44:56.000 Let New York burn.

00:44:58.000 And I said, New York has, what, I think, 11 congressional seats.

00:45:02.000 And with the exodus of moderate to conservative leading people and high-income earners, you are going to have in the next midterm, they're talking about a socialist primaring Hakeem Jeffries.

00:45:14.000 And Hakeem Jeffries will lose because the moderates have fled because Zoran Mandani won.

00:45:19.000 This means that it's going to come to an election of Hakeem Jeffries versus communist and communist wins.

00:45:24.000 And now we're going to have more communists in the federal government.

00:45:27.000 And then they're going to keep voting to bring in illegal immigrants, tear down our borders, and burn the country to the ground.

00:45:32.000 That's the problem with socialists winning in these districts.

00:45:34.000 And it keeps happening.

00:45:35.000 Then what happens when you have red states versus blue states and they are so geographically hyper-polarized, it's not even a question of abortion.

00:45:44.000 Right.

00:45:45.000 Here's the example I've used.

00:45:46.000 Oklahoma, abortion, totally banned.

00:45:48.000 Colorado, abortion to nine months.

00:45:50.000 That's a morally divergent, extreme case where that's terrifying.

00:45:55.000 What happens when every issue is like that?

00:45:57.000 What happens when people in Colorado are doing meth and heroin at the same time in the streets?

00:46:04.000 And Oklahoma says, we have to put up border guards on the highways going from Oklahoma to Colorado to stop the drug traffickers that are coming in because Colorado allows them to produce and distribute.

00:46:15.000 Now you've got border checkpoints between states.

00:46:18.000 Then Colorado votes in the federal government to legalize heroin and methamphetamine federally.

00:46:25.000 They say, we're going to take it off the schedule and all the blue commies vote and they inch out the Republicans or a Thomas Massey is like, I refuse, I abstain.

00:46:34.000 Then you get a red state saying, no, a red line has been crossed.

00:46:38.000 Or how about this?

00:46:40.000 What happens if you get enough communists in the federal Congress where they vote to legalize federally up to nine months abortion and force red states to comply?

00:46:50.000 This is where you get into the territory where the red states say it's never going to happen and we will defy the federal government.

00:46:56.000 This is the problem with how things are bifurcating and why it's a problem that Donald Trump isn't being a leader to young people.

00:47:04.000 He's a deal maker.

00:47:04.000 You make a great point.

00:47:05.000 I understand why Trump said we need H-1Bs.

00:47:08.000 He's looking at the math.

00:47:09.000 Economically, we don't have the young people.

00:47:11.000 We don't have the skilled middle class right now to take up these managerial jobs and these manufacturing jobs.

00:47:17.000 So Scott Besant is saying temporarily, we will have H-1Bs so they can do these shipbuilding and these steelworking or aluminum jobs.

00:47:26.000 And then we'll start working on Gen Z. Not going to work.

00:47:30.000 And it's just not reality.

00:47:31.000 Well, Gen Z is not going to have kids.

00:47:32.000 They're not going to take these jobs.

00:47:34.000 It's actually a lie.

00:47:34.000 It's not even these high-skilled jobs.

00:47:37.000 It's low jobs.

00:47:38.000 It's like store clerk or cashier.

00:47:41.000 It's not what people really think it is.

00:47:42.000 And I think the bottom line to it is the Trump administration needs to pivot to a message that gets the attention of Gen Z because if they fail to do that, it's not just a message, but results, which might come next spring, by the way.

00:47:56.000 Because I think we're just in this period of where everything is a grind.

00:48:00.000 It's monotonous.

00:48:01.000 Nothing's looking good.

00:48:02.000 But then when January comes around, tax money comes in.

00:48:06.000 Cases start.

00:48:07.000 These indictments actually go to court.

00:48:09.000 What if some of this stuff actually swings his way?

00:48:12.000 How will people fill it in?

00:48:13.000 Far left will burn things down and kill people.

00:48:16.000 I think you're right.

00:48:18.000 You don't win a lot of supporters doing that, though.

00:48:21.000 Their action front has actually been something that has been a net negative to them, right?

00:48:25.000 So, I mean, we need to also invest in the culture, right?

00:48:30.000 The right just punts on culture.

00:48:32.000 We don't have TV.

00:48:33.000 We don't have movies.

00:48:34.000 We don't have anything that, okay, great.

00:48:37.000 So you're making money, but you don't reinvest in anything.

00:48:40.000 They don't promote their worldview.

00:48:41.000 Something as simple as Tommy Boy, right?

00:48:44.000 Not to go too far afield here, but we don't make those movies anymore.

00:48:48.000 And if you think Tommy Boy, you think fat guy in a little coat, right?

00:48:50.000 Fat guy, but what is Tommy Boy?

00:48:52.000 Tommy Boy is a literal journey of self-discovery where a guy goes on the road, learns the value of fellowship, hard work, saves his dad's company, saves the community.

00:49:01.000 It is the American dream.

00:49:03.000 He gets the girl in the end, right?

00:49:05.000 If that movie's made today, him and David Spade end up having, they end up making love in the second act.

00:49:11.000 No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:49:12.000 And then he returns home and the business is transferred over to a black lesbian to run.

00:49:17.000 That's right.

00:49:18.000 It's a community center.

00:49:19.000 You should make a movie about guys.

00:49:21.000 It's a community center.

00:49:22.000 Subsidized by the government.

00:49:23.000 And that's what Netflix does.

00:49:24.000 You got to make a movie about guys making that movie that you're just talking about, the woke Tommy Boy thing.

00:49:30.000 It's a movie about the schools making a crappy movie.

00:49:32.000 But our movies are our parables.

00:49:36.000 Just being a big, strong American, like, when was the last time you saw that?

00:49:40.000 I mean, we had Arnold Schwarzenegger shaking hands with Carl Weathers, and that was like, yeah, get a load of this, Russia.

00:49:46.000 You can't even understand.

00:49:48.000 Everything that we even have, again, for Gen Z, everything they watch, doomer, doomer, doomer.

00:49:53.000 This sucks.

00:49:54.000 White people suck.

00:49:55.000 America sucks.

00:49:57.000 The last movie they had on Netflix where, you know, the missile is shot and they're showing everybody.

00:50:03.000 This movie sucks.

00:50:04.000 Movie sucks, but it's also so incompetent.

00:50:06.000 So you're saying every one of our four-star generals is like, oh my God, a missile's coming.

00:50:10.000 How do you think that movie would go in the 80s?

00:50:12.000 I want to see.

00:50:12.000 It's Superman flying out there punching the muscle.

00:50:15.000 Their movie is called, was it House Full of Dynamite?

00:50:17.000 Yes.

00:50:18.000 It's not a movie.

00:50:20.000 It's a 20-minute short film with no ending, repeated four times.

00:50:23.000 Communist propaganda.

00:50:24.000 It's just communist propaganda.

00:50:26.000 Everything, squid games, communist propaganda.

00:50:28.000 The communists are investing.

00:50:30.000 The communists are winning because they are investing in their message.

00:50:34.000 The communists are winning.

00:50:36.000 The communists are winning, yes, for those reasons, but it's because they're blindly unified.

00:50:40.000 It's their religious zealots.

00:50:41.000 Right.

00:50:42.000 We're having a political conversation with people that are religious zealots.

00:50:46.000 And on the right, rest assured, Donald Trump will bring in more Indian workers and Chinese visas, and your thought leaders will have an argument over Israel and Candace Owens and Megan Kelly instead.

00:50:58.000 This is the point about why it's demoralizing.

00:51:00.000 Like, again, I want to make sure it's very clear.

00:51:02.000 I'm not saying anybody's in obligation to talk about stuff.

00:51:04.000 Candace Owens can talk about whatever she wants.

00:51:06.000 The point is, there's no more leadership.

00:51:09.000 And I wonder if it's because Charlie was holding things together more than people realized, even behind the scenes.

00:51:13.000 Probably right.

00:51:13.000 But I also think, and again, maybe I'm just too far afield in this.

00:51:17.000 Megan Kelly's got a lot of money, right?

00:51:18.000 Instead of, you know, Sean Hannity goes on and he just whines about liberal Hollywood.

00:51:22.000 Sean, why don't you take some of that money, invest in a movie, and then you could talk about your movie culture?

00:51:29.000 I got to jump in and agree.

00:51:30.000 What really frustrates me is we here at Timcat spend almost all of the money that comes in on trying to build culture to push back in ways where we can do it most effectively.

00:51:40.000 So Tales from the Inverted World, Shane Cashman, he's critical of the AI.

00:51:45.000 He's critical of Elon, and he's talking about weird, wild conspiracy.

00:51:48.000 The purpose of doing that show is a segment of people who are apolitical.

00:51:52.000 So we want to enter a space where the values that we hold, pro-America, Christian values, they will permeate into other spaces.

00:52:00.000 So that is a host like Shane is great to talk about Bigfoot and aliens, but his core is Christian values.

00:52:07.000 We have, real quick, we have, with the boonies, skateboarding got taken over by woke, and they're trying to get kids to do weird gay stuff.

00:52:14.000 And so I said, we need to be leaders in this space.

00:52:17.000 I know a lot of people are critical of it.

00:52:19.000 I think the op, I talked about this with Father Ripperger.

00:52:23.000 I asked him if he thought it was demonic possession that there are people pretending to be conservatives telling the right to abandon sports, video games, and the arts.

00:52:32.000 And he said yes.

00:52:32.000 Crazy.

00:52:33.000 That it is demonic influence, obsession, not possession.

00:52:36.000 I don't want to put words in his mouth.

00:52:38.000 But when you have like G Prime85, who made these hilarious cartoons mocking the Biden administration that went massively viral and were really effective and conservatives attacked him nonstop.

00:52:49.000 I'm like, those aren't real conservatives because you want to win on, you want to win culturally.

00:52:54.000 We won with memes.

00:52:55.000 We won this last election with memes, man.

00:52:58.000 We need to be inspiring people.

00:53:00.000 So here's the, back to the original point.

00:53:02.000 I look at people like Kennedy and his salary estimates is what, like 50 million or something like that.

00:53:07.000 And I'm like, that's crazy.

00:53:09.000 Dude could fund five movies per year without even breaking half his bank.

00:53:16.000 You could do a million dollar budget on drama, short films, low cost.

00:53:20.000 And now with AI, your CGI costs are gone.

00:53:23.000 Someone like Kennedy who actually cared, because we're trying as hard as we can to do this.

00:53:27.000 We are trying to create cultural waves, music or otherwise, and it's because it's what we know so that we can inspire people.

00:53:34.000 And then I look, and I've talked about this quite a bit.

00:53:36.000 These ultra wealthy people on the right, with all due respect, I don't know what Candace or Megan Kelly or Tucker are doing outside of making a show.

00:53:45.000 With all the money they make, the millions of dollars in revenue that they generate, what are they doing with it?

00:53:51.000 Honest question.

00:53:52.000 I'm not trying to disparage them.

00:53:53.000 I'm just saying there is more than enough money on this side to create cartoons, shows, comedy, or otherwise, and we don't see it.

00:54:02.000 And scientific laboratories, like politics is downstream of culture.

00:54:06.000 That's a famous term.

00:54:07.000 Downstream, culture is downstream of science, which used to be religion.

00:54:11.000 Before science existed, it was just religion.

00:54:13.000 That was the belief structure of reality.

00:54:15.000 Now we believe in science as kind of mostly most people's religion.

00:54:19.000 Some people blend religion and science.

00:54:20.000 But you need to build religion and science.

00:54:22.000 You don't need to build religion.

00:54:24.000 You need to build science.

00:54:26.000 You need to control the networks that allow you to propagate culture, which will then change the minds of people in politics.

00:54:31.000 Well, a good point to what you're saying, Ian.

00:54:35.000 The left uses science to control their cult.

00:54:40.000 They publish, what was it?

00:54:41.000 Did you guys just see that one of these COVID studies got retracted because of lack of real data?

00:54:46.000 And it was used during COVID to convince people to abandon any alternative medication and just go with the vaccines.

00:54:53.000 The left utilized, they've infiltrated academia so that they can publish only the studies they want.

00:55:00.000 When there was a study out of the University of Oregon, I think it was, that said potentially transgenderism in young people was social contagion, activists complained and they pulled it.

00:55:09.000 Well, you know what?

00:55:10.000 Not all students in the art and the sciences have been bought.

00:55:13.000 This is actually laser-induced graphene.

00:55:17.000 Alex Latham, when I went to the Rice University Nanotechnologies Lab, he used a laser to etch Timcast into this polymer, Timcast News Politics and Culture.

00:55:25.000 He hit it with a laser so hot that it turned the plastic into graphene.

00:55:29.000 So I'm going to give this to you, Tim.

00:55:30.000 We'll keep this here on the table.

00:55:31.000 Yeah.

00:55:31.000 Put it on top.

00:55:32.000 Yeah.

00:55:32.000 He was very excited.

00:55:33.000 He loves you.

00:55:34.000 He was very excited that I was working with you and with him to promote these technologies.

00:55:39.000 And I think as much as we want to save and preserve our culture in our world, so many scientists.

00:55:43.000 This is something that's just a little, it's a little raw to me.

00:55:46.000 I think you guys have had Dave Landau on.

00:55:47.000 Yeah, great dude.

00:55:49.000 So I write on a show, Normal, We Got Canceled yesterday.

00:55:51.000 So it's a little raw, right?

00:55:53.000 But for more political punditry, for more doomerism, for more, everybody talks about what's wrong in America because it gets clicks.

00:56:01.000 They never proffer any solutions.

00:56:03.000 They never say, okay, this is bad, but this is what I would do differently, right?

00:56:07.000 I mean, Ron Paul famously said, you know, and I was a libertarian for a long time before I came to grips with the fact that that's probably as utopian-coded as communism is.

00:56:19.000 Same thing with me.

00:56:20.000 I was a Paul guy.

00:56:22.000 Yeah, we'll just let the marketplace of ideas and China's just like, yes, do that.

00:56:27.000 Yes.

00:56:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:28.000 We'll infiltrate your systems for 100 years and your children will be reading Lenin.

00:56:28.000 Okay.

00:56:34.000 So yeah, the concept is it's too profitable to be a doomer.

00:56:42.000 We have problems.

00:56:42.000 Sure, the horrors persist, but so do we.

00:56:45.000 If I could be a hippie white pill right now, not to steal your roll here, Ian.

00:56:49.000 But if the concept is, look at how they have pushed us.

00:56:55.000 We have been subject for at least 10 years, if not 20, all right, to economic warfare, biological warfare, psychological warfare.

00:57:04.000 It's been a nonstop information and propaganda war.

00:57:07.000 They have tried to separate us by race.

00:57:10.000 They have tried to separate us by gender.

00:57:12.000 They have tried to turn people against each other based on political views, on religion.

00:57:15.000 And yet still we're here.

00:57:17.000 Still we're together.

00:57:19.000 Still the fabric of society may be stretched, but I travel this country doing comedy and it's on the ground.

00:57:25.000 It is not the same in real life as it is online, right?

00:57:31.000 They have done everything they possibly can do to destroy us and demoralize us.

00:57:36.000 And we've taken some hits, sure, but this country persists and it survives.

00:57:41.000 And we're going through the birthing pains of this fourth industrial revolution.

00:57:44.000 And I hope that we can outgrow our problems.

00:57:46.000 I don't know if we can or we can't.

00:57:48.000 But the issue that, to your point, Tim, there's a lot of money in telling everybody how bad it is.

00:57:55.000 And nobody is showing anything.

00:57:56.000 And the Ron Paul quote is the problem with Bernie Sanders.

00:57:58.000 He said, the problem with Bernie Sanders, he identifies all of America's problems correctly.

00:58:03.000 He just offers solutions that would make them worse.

00:58:06.000 So where are the solution people?

00:58:06.000 Right.

00:58:06.000 Yep.

00:58:09.000 Where are the people that are saying, I offered it before?

00:58:11.000 Go after student loan dent.

00:58:12.000 Trump.

00:58:13.000 Tim's right.

00:58:13.000 You're losing Gen Z.

00:58:15.000 That doesn't mean they're lost.

00:58:16.000 You can win them back tomorrow.

00:58:18.000 Yeah.

00:58:18.000 Tomorrow.

00:58:19.000 Let's jump to this from Newsweek.

00:58:21.000 Hassan Piker stopped from filming by police in China.

00:58:25.000 What we know.

00:58:26.000 Heavens.

00:58:27.000 They say that, let's jump to the what to know part.

00:58:30.000 As the group waited, Piker joined fellow Twitch streamer Will Neff that we're all in Tiananmen Square, so we're all becoming Chinese.

00:58:36.000 Geez, dude.

00:58:37.000 Neff held up his phone to the camera to show what appeared to be the AI-created image showing Mao in the likeness of Piker, accompanied by the Maoist slogan: closely follow the great leader, Chairman Mao, Ford and Revolution.

00:58:49.000 Within seconds, a police officer approached and instructed them to put away the phone, which they did.

00:58:53.000 The audio kept recording.

00:58:55.000 He wants to see the photo.

00:58:57.000 He says, oh, he said he saw you.

00:58:58.000 I was just holding the camera, but I didn't do anything.

00:59:00.000 The officer then asked to review the most recent footage from the live stream.

00:59:03.000 The broadcast abruptly cut to black with an intermission screen displaying the message, we're doing secret memes, be right back.

00:59:09.000 When it resumed, Piker and the group were seen laughing about the encounter as they continued toward the square.

00:59:14.000 This is awesome.

00:59:15.000 I don't know why people aren't enjoying all of this.

00:59:17.000 And here's what happens.

00:59:19.000 I believe he said this statement after the police.

00:59:21.000 This is after.

00:59:22.000 My mind, in my conscience, I have already become Chinese.

00:59:27.000 Okay?

00:59:28.000 We were already white Chinese in this chat.

00:59:31.000 I've already become full Chinese.

00:59:34.000 See, things are better early.

00:59:35.000 Okay.

00:59:36.000 Let me just start by saying that.

00:59:40.000 It's fucking sick.

00:59:43.000 Okay.

00:59:45.000 Like, you have abundance-style consumption paired up with a centrally controlled economy, an economic system that has yielded tremendous development.

01:00:05.000 You have 1950s Soviet-era building blocks next to the Gucci store.

01:00:14.000 If there was more, if there was ever a country that represented the synthesis, the things that I enjoy so much personally, if ever such a country existed, I do not know.

01:00:31.000 Hassan Piker praising China, which has Uyghur Muslims in prison camps where they're raped and forced to get abortions, but that's what he loves.

01:00:41.000 The fascinating thing is, I have no problem pointing out the U.S. has problems with drone strikes, the killing of civilians, Abdurman al-Alaki.

01:00:47.000 I can point out China doing it as well.

01:00:49.000 The reason why I can't stand people like Hassan is that he's just in favor.

01:00:54.000 He just wants to be on the winning team.

01:00:55.000 I think he's making the bet here that the U.S. Empire is crumbling and China is ascendant.

01:01:00.000 So that's why he's praising China.

01:01:01.000 That's all.

01:01:02.000 Horrible miscalculation.

01:01:03.000 He's an imbecile because he's talking about all of this.

01:01:06.000 He's talking about abundance that China has.

01:01:08.000 China does not have that in the absence of the United States.

01:01:12.000 China has all of that because they are selling, making things and selling these things to the rest of the world.

01:01:19.000 And so without capitalism, without markets and access to markets, China has none of that.

01:01:25.000 So Hassan thinking that he's in some kind of socialist utopia is a misunderstanding of what he's actually experiencing.

01:01:35.000 And he's not smart enough to address that or understand that.

01:01:38.000 He's just happy to let him eat dogs.

01:01:42.000 Are you guys in favor of the tariffs?

01:01:44.000 I'm protesting.

01:01:45.000 I'm protesting.

01:01:45.000 You're protesting.

01:01:46.000 I'm super protesting.

01:01:48.000 And the tariff dividend is a brilliant idea, although I think Trump's overestimating.

01:01:51.000 The idea of taking my money with tariffs, making my products cost 20% more and then giving $2,000 to a bunch of people, it makes me irate.

01:02:00.000 Why?

01:02:00.000 That's wealth distribution, and I'm not into that.

01:02:02.000 I'm for that.

01:02:02.000 Free distribution.

01:02:03.000 Yeah, wealthy distribution.

01:02:05.000 It's trade protectionism.

01:02:06.000 The idea is if you want to buy products from overseas, that's detrimental to the United States.

01:02:11.000 So you will pay a tax on that, which makes it more competitive for American companies to produce the products.

01:02:17.000 And then we're not keeping that money for the government.

01:02:20.000 It's going back to the people so that this stimulates more economic activity.

01:02:23.000 It goes back to me.

01:02:24.000 If it goes back to every person, that's one thing.

01:02:26.000 If it just goes back to people, if it just goes back to the people with under $29,000 a year, you know, if it goes under, if there's a cap in wealth distribution to incorrectly, it's going to go to people that make less than $100.

01:02:38.000 I hope that doesn't.

01:02:39.000 Someone told me I sound heartless when I'm saying that, but it is a form of wealth redistribution.

01:02:43.000 That it's like, who thinks they have the authority to do that?

01:02:46.000 The U.S. government does.

01:02:46.000 Right.

01:02:47.000 Bessett made a very good argument to Tim's point about the national security of, like, again, there's sentence, you know, 90% of all our pharmaceuticals come from Southeast Asia.

01:02:58.000 Is that, you know, our, we have parts for our naval.

01:03:02.000 We have our navy is getting parts from China.

01:03:05.000 I mean, I don't, I don't, how can you justify that?

01:03:08.000 So, I mean, if we have to create incentives for business to come back here, again, if we are looking at a Gen Z issue, a working class issue where people don't have opportunity to compete for the American dream, well, then that is the government's job, right?

01:03:22.000 To make sure the free market has to, you still need referees to keep it free.

01:03:27.000 It's not a free-for-all.

01:03:28.000 It's not anarchy, you know, it's not anarcho-capitalism, right?

01:03:30.000 I mean, there has to be, you can't compete with slave labor abroad.

01:03:35.000 And it is cheap.

01:03:36.000 And I used to understand the supply side argument all too well.

01:03:39.000 But, you know, as we're seeing it here, we've been exploited.

01:03:42.000 We've been exploited by the people that make things and selling it to people that don't.

01:03:48.000 So the tariffs so far have brought in $195 billion.

01:03:53.000 They could give 97.5 million people a $2,000 dividend.

01:03:58.000 Actually, it kind of makes sense.

01:03:58.000 If they're targeting lower-income people, then it seems like it is possible they do this, especially by the end of the year.

01:04:04.000 I'm for it.

01:04:05.000 The example I often give is the example that I know: skateboarding.

01:04:08.000 It makes no sense for the United States to buy lumber from Canada, ship it to China, then ship it to the United States to sell a skateboard.

01:04:19.000 And all it does is shut down American factories and American lumber demand.

01:04:24.000 The bigger issue, of course, is that we import all of our aluminum from Canada, but Canada doesn't even have bauxite mines.

01:04:31.000 So they're importing their aluminum from China and Brazil, refining it, and then selling it to us at a premium, which makes literally no sense.

01:04:39.000 So put tariffs on it, shut that down, and say, we need refineries in the United States.

01:04:44.000 Recycling plants.

01:04:45.000 They're now with gaseous chlorine.

01:04:48.000 They can recycle rare earth metals really easily now.

01:04:51.000 We have Alaska as well.

01:04:52.000 So the issue is free trade, the plot.

01:04:56.000 Here's why you should support Trump, Ian.

01:04:58.000 The liberal economic order launched after World War II was trying to prevent World War III.

01:05:04.000 The idea was if we create economic ties by force, war can't happen.

01:05:09.000 Why did war stop in Europe?

01:05:11.000 Because trade.

01:05:12.000 Everybody traded, they intermingled and then didn't want to fight because their wealth was tied to it.

01:05:16.000 So they said, here's the plan: we will give away lower-tier economic blocks from the United States to foreign countries, Canada, China, Mexico, Indonesia, et cetera.

01:05:26.000 We will then sell all of the American youth to go to college.

01:05:29.000 So they will be specialists who make more money.

01:05:31.000 The Americans will design the products and run the businesses where the cheap Chinese labor does all the work.

01:05:38.000 The only problem, we are not the smartest people.

01:05:41.000 You can't just put people in college.

01:05:43.000 So what ends up happening is the liberal economic order gave away our manufacturing base, our steel, our aluminum, auto manufacturing, et cetera, to foreign countries.

01:05:51.000 Skateboards, clothing made no sense.

01:05:54.000 They gave it away.

01:05:55.000 We can't now restart it.

01:05:56.000 And it's been a detriment to our economy.

01:06:00.000 Again, it makes no sense climate change-wise, that's a liberal argument, that Canada imports from bauxite mines in Australia and then refines the aluminum and sends it to us when we could just do it directly and cut out the middleman and save energy.

01:06:14.000 The point is, the tariffs are attempting to stop the liberal economic plot to force people around the world into the petrodollar by giving away American manufacturing and resources.

01:06:25.000 Okay, if it incentivizes, I'd be happy to start a manufacturing plant.

01:06:29.000 Let me put it this way: the skateboards that are made in China are selling for $90 or $100 on these professional skate websites.

01:06:36.000 Booney's team boards, 50 bucks.

01:06:38.000 Booney's pro models, 55 bucks.

01:06:41.000 Because the wood is all from the United States.

01:06:43.000 It's manufactured in the United States, printed in the United States, and shipped in the United States.

01:06:47.000 We don't have to put them on boats.

01:06:49.000 The problem is, if we had the skateboards made in China by Chinese peasant labor, we would save $5 per board.

01:06:55.000 So American manufacturers can't compete with Chinese peasant labor.

01:07:00.000 Have you noticed a reduction in cost of production since the tariffs, like a year, six months?

01:07:04.000 Have you noticed anything, any changes?

01:07:05.000 Nothing's changed for our American skateboard production because we're not impacted by the tariffs.

01:07:11.000 Coffee, however, we have eaten one on that.

01:07:14.000 And that's why I said the tariffs don't make sense for coffee because coffee is regional and we don't grow it here except for Kona in Hawaii.

01:07:20.000 Are there companies that have sprung up since?

01:07:22.000 I mean, there's a lot of them.

01:07:23.000 I was just talking with the Black Rifle guys.

01:07:23.000 You can't grow coffee.

01:07:25.000 We don't have the climate or the altitude for it.

01:07:27.000 Hawaii.

01:07:28.000 That's the only skateboard.

01:07:29.000 Don't forget that they are in America.

01:07:30.000 Kona Coffee.

01:07:31.000 And it is some of the best coffee.

01:07:33.000 Seriously, Kona Coffee is like top volcanic soil.

01:07:36.000 Oh, yup.

01:07:37.000 Yup.

01:07:38.000 This is volcanic water, by the way.

01:07:38.000 Some of the best.

01:07:40.000 Icelandic.

01:07:41.000 Oh, no, it's glacial water.

01:07:42.000 I'm sorry.

01:07:42.000 It's plastic.

01:07:43.000 Yeah, unfortunately.

01:07:43.000 It's glacial.

01:07:44.000 Glacial water.

01:07:44.000 No, no, no.

01:07:45.000 So we are able to produce some of the best coffee, but not enough of it.

01:07:48.000 Yeah, I think the problem is the American voter, we were talking about this earlier, is a hypocrite.

01:07:52.000 So you want jobs.

01:07:54.000 You want our economy to be better, but that means we need to deal with China.

01:07:58.000 If we deal with China, that means entrepreneurs are going to go out of business because a lot of their businesses are leveraged with Chinese products.

01:08:04.000 So which one is it?

01:08:05.000 Well, it's because we gave away our manufacturing because peasant Chinese labor is cheap and an American worker can't compete.

01:08:14.000 So now Gen Z is like, I can't get a job.

01:08:16.000 Don't worry, the Chinese peasant can.

01:08:18.000 So what does Trump do?

01:08:19.000 Okay, here's what we're going to do.

01:08:21.000 And it's brilliant.

01:08:22.000 If you want a skateboard from China, it's going to cost you 50% more.

01:08:27.000 You buy it from America, it's going to be no tax.

01:08:30.000 This means that these companies can't hire Chinese peasants to out-compete American workers anymore.

01:08:35.000 This other aspect of competition between China and the United States is the Belt and Road Initiative.

01:08:39.000 Chinese are investing in Africa in a lot of mining.

01:08:42.000 There's cobalt mining going on in the Congo.

01:08:44.000 Well, now we just have developed, I mean, this is like in the last year, six, eight months.

01:08:48.000 They've figured out using chlorinated gas how to recycle the cobalt and reuse it.

01:08:52.000 So we don't need to rely on these mines in Africa as much.

01:08:56.000 And I mean, we can get that reduction ideally that we harvest enough of a supply that we don't need any external foreign mines.

01:09:02.000 So it's extremely promising.

01:09:04.000 We are reindustrializing here in America at an unbelievable pace.

01:09:08.000 Like that is something that has been done over the last year.

01:09:11.000 There are incredible things this administration has done, not to cheerlead.

01:09:15.000 There are great things that they're doing as far as upgrading technology.

01:09:20.000 They're doing things with air travel that's going to revolutionize.

01:09:23.000 Are they going to run out of time?

01:09:25.000 Yes.

01:09:26.000 That's now that becomes when you have the midterm and then you're going to be lame duck going into 28.

01:09:32.000 Are they going to have the time to get to the finish line?

01:09:36.000 And that, I think, more than anything else is where you get frustrated with how much time they spent and how much energy and resources they spent, especially in information and media equity on foreign policy.

01:09:48.000 Because what they're doing at home, and I love Besson.

01:09:51.000 I think Besson's great, man.

01:09:52.000 I think he's brilliant.

01:09:53.000 And I see the vision.

01:09:54.000 And you said something to me yesterday, like, man, if we could just get America to go on a diet, I don't know why you said it to me personally, but if we could just get America to go on a diet for 12 months, we could set ourselves up for the next 30 years.

01:10:07.000 We can get this country to buy in.

01:10:09.000 And I think, to Tim's point, the right leader could do that.

01:10:13.000 The right leader could do, guys.

01:10:15.000 Listen, I know this isn't great right now, but this is the plan and it's going to work.

01:10:20.000 And we just all need to get together, come together.

01:10:24.000 Let's not spend.

01:10:26.000 Let's have an economic diet for 12 months, guys.

01:10:29.000 And we'll throw a big party in 12 months.

01:10:32.000 This is the problem of the decent.

01:10:33.000 This is the problem of Democratic constitutional republicanism.

01:10:38.000 A king can simply stand there and say, we are overspending and cuts are going to happen in the budget.

01:10:44.000 And if you don't like it, too bad.

01:10:46.000 And if you don't like it, I got a different kind of cut.

01:10:49.000 So the issue right now is the Speaker of the House is going to say, we need to reduce the budget.

01:10:54.000 We're in a deficit.

01:10:55.000 The Democrats are going to say no.

01:10:56.000 You cut Republicans.

01:10:58.000 No, I can't.

01:10:59.000 Everybody argues and everyone agrees, you know what?

01:11:02.000 Let's all just keep deficit spending.

01:11:04.000 There's no centralized authority to say, I'm making the decision.

01:11:07.000 We're making the cuts.

01:11:08.000 Think about it.

01:11:08.000 The people that makes $11 billion a year off snap.

01:11:10.000 Think about a business where the boss goes, I have to make a hard choice.

01:11:14.000 We're going to be laying people off because we don't have infinite money.

01:11:17.000 I have fired 10% of the staff.

01:11:19.000 And it's unfortunate, but we're closing the, you know, the travel and exploration division of the media company.

01:11:25.000 Then people are all sad.

01:11:27.000 If there was no boss and everybody from the company had to come in and sit down and argue over who was getting fired, they're all going to say, not me.

01:11:35.000 Is it going to be you?

01:11:36.000 No, don't vote against me.

01:11:37.000 I'll side with you.

01:11:38.000 And then they go, how about we just steal money from other people so we don't got to get fired?

01:11:43.000 And that's the American system.

01:11:44.000 Yeah, I think one or two things are true.

01:11:45.000 One, maybe he went into the White House with the mindset of I'm going all in on this.

01:11:50.000 And then, of course, the courts got involved.

01:11:53.000 Deepstate got involved and started slowing him down.

01:11:55.000 Or two, maybe he doesn't have the people around him who are willing to do what it takes.

01:12:01.000 Because what we're asking for is a big, it's a big price that needs to be paid.

01:12:05.000 We need to deal with China.

01:12:07.000 People scream about Israel every day and they have nothing to say about China.

01:12:10.000 Are you kidding me?

01:12:11.000 China could end us tomorrow just with the supply chain.

01:12:15.000 They don't even need to deploy their military.

01:12:18.000 China, a disease escaped from one of their labs and set the world, put the world on pause for five years, untold economic pain, untold, and they've never once been held accountable.

01:12:33.000 Not only that, has anybody ever been like, well, we're not doing trade with China because they infected the world?

01:12:41.000 Not once, right?

01:12:41.000 So isn't that kind of weird that nobody's ever once been like, hey, China, you owe us something?

01:12:45.000 They're still selling a book, screwing about Fauci all day long, but not actually prosecuting him.

01:12:52.000 I used to think that Trump didn't have the people around him that knew what the best technologies on the planet are that we need to implement.

01:12:58.000 And that may still be the case, but there's a lot of Department of Energy contracts that aren't on the news that I'm learning about when I'm at the nanotechnologies labs.

01:13:04.000 Like they're pumping this technology into the government right now.

01:13:07.000 So there might be a hyper acceleration going on with some competitive under tech, like transforming to a carbon-based system instead of a steel, like instead of heavy steels, you've got like lightweight carbons and hydrogen fuels instead of petroleum fuels.

01:13:21.000 I think that that might be happening behind the scenes.

01:13:24.000 I just need the morale boost from the president.

01:13:26.000 Yeah, I think really quickly, he planted the seeds.

01:13:30.000 They don't harvest overnight.

01:13:32.000 So let's see what happens next year.

01:13:34.000 Because I think that's judgment time.

01:13:35.000 I think judgment time for everything he's done in the first 10 months is going to be next spring.

01:13:39.000 And it's either going to be, okay, I see where this is going finally.

01:13:44.000 Or to Tim's point, it's a nightmare.

01:13:49.000 Well, I mean, so one of the positive things about Donald Trump, and it's really easy to get blackpilled considering like the way things have gone for the past few months.

01:13:59.000 But Donald Trump is not an ideologue, right?

01:14:01.000 He's not a libertarian ideologue who totally believes that libertarian ideas are the way to go.

01:14:08.000 He's not a socialist who's like, this is, you know, Marx was right and blah, blah, blah.

01:14:13.000 He's not ideologically motivated.

01:14:15.000 He's motivated by his own ego and he's motivated by being able to say, look, I did this and it worked.

01:14:23.000 He wants people to like him.

01:14:25.000 He wants to be successful.

01:14:26.000 So if a policy is not working, he will change that policy.

01:14:31.000 And there's evidence.

01:14:34.000 He has a historical precedent having done that kind of stuff.

01:14:37.000 If he's got a policy that he's pushing or that he's championing and it doesn't work, he will change it.

01:14:45.000 If there is something that he thinks, if there's a policy that's brought to him that he thinks will work, he will try it.

01:14:52.000 And that is something that you can say, you know, this might be a saving grace for the Trump administration because I'm sure that he's heard a bunch of the pushback on the H-1Bs.

01:15:04.000 And hopefully that will be, you know, he'll actually adjust course with that because that's not popular.

01:15:09.000 And the American people don't want that.

01:15:11.000 He's missing Kayleigh Mechany, too.

01:15:12.000 I mean, Carolyn Levitt, whatever you think, Kaylee got the message out.

01:15:15.000 She was on point.

01:15:17.000 She could communicate.

01:15:18.000 They're losing the information.

01:15:20.000 I don't know.

01:15:21.000 I don't know how you recover from Trump saying on TV, H-1Bs.

01:15:24.000 I know.

01:15:25.000 They're trying.

01:15:26.000 It's because you have to be realistic.

01:15:28.000 Trump's being honest.

01:15:31.000 I bring up all the time, Gen Alpha is 42 million people.

01:15:34.000 In three years, Gen Alpha should be entering the workforce, but they're half the size of Gen Z.

01:15:40.000 And we already don't have the Gen Z 18-year-olds because the birthright drop off extends into the youngest portions of Gen Z as well.

01:15:47.000 Universities are already closing.

01:15:50.000 Mathematically, you need workers now.

01:15:54.000 Otherwise, the system will break down.

01:15:56.000 All that matters is this.

01:15:58.000 Immigration won't solve the problem.

01:15:59.000 It's a bandit on a bullet wound.

01:16:01.000 And no civilization has ever recovered from this trend.

01:16:05.000 Ever.

01:16:06.000 Population?

01:16:07.000 Yes.

01:16:07.000 That's the trend?

01:16:08.000 No civilization has ever had this technology that we have either.

01:16:11.000 The issue is that 18 years ago, I was supposed to have a kid.

01:16:11.000 Sure.

01:16:15.000 Historically and traditionally, at 22 is when I would have my first child.

01:16:20.000 I sleep on the floors.

01:16:20.000 I didn't.

01:16:23.000 I had a $10 an hour job at the airport.

01:16:25.000 I could barely afford rent or a car.

01:16:27.000 And so I figured out how to make things work.

01:16:29.000 But for all that I've talked about with I succeeded, I started a business.

01:16:33.000 I wasn't able to start a family at that time.

01:16:36.000 And realistically, by 30, I could have, but trying to succeed and work and not just stagnate was part of what motivated me in the first place.

01:16:47.000 So for many young people, just nobody had kids.

01:16:50.000 You cannot have children right now to solve the problem of 18 years ago.

01:16:54.000 So even if everybody right now had four kids, it's still going to be 20 years until we turn things around.

01:17:02.000 Sometimes a bandage on a bullet wound will keep you alive long enough to get to the hospital and 18 years on a bullet wound.

01:17:07.000 What point is it?

01:17:08.000 If it's a strong enough bandage, it could keep you alive until the solution is presented.

01:17:14.000 And there's this technology called, they're calling it the molecular jackhammer.

01:17:17.000 It's this little molecule that goes out and in a trillion times a second when you shine infrared light on it.

01:17:21.000 It may be able to incite pregnancy and help women become more fertile.

01:17:25.000 So we may be able to see women having kids into their latest.

01:17:27.000 It's not the case.

01:17:28.000 I got one of those.

01:17:29.000 It came.

01:17:30.000 You got the jackhammer on you?

01:17:31.000 I got one of those.

01:17:32.000 You can tell.

01:17:32.000 It came stock.

01:17:33.000 Yeah, dude.

01:17:35.000 Hold on.

01:17:36.000 The problem is 40% of women under 30 years old want to lead this country and they do not want to have kids.

01:17:44.000 So you got to change their mindsets.

01:17:46.000 Like I said, step one is always mindset.

01:17:48.000 It's actually, well, according to Tony Robbins, you change your situation.

01:17:50.000 There's probably somebody, dude, there's probably somebody out there like Elon or somebody who's probably working on like trying to get female gestation and pregnancy down to like three months or something and working on it officially.

01:18:00.000 The problem is that's a symptom.

01:18:02.000 The root cause is in here.

01:18:04.000 Why do it's just like what you're saying?

01:18:06.000 Why can't an 18-year-old, a 19-year-old get one income, get a house, and have a family?

01:18:11.000 That's the root cause.

01:18:12.000 I'm going to pull this story from Upworthy.

01:18:14.000 Millennial woman uses clever three wishes metaphor to explain why she doesn't want kids.

01:18:19.000 Okay, let's uh let's let's hear this.

01:18:21.000 You know how I know that I don't want to have kids?

01:18:23.000 If you gave me a genie and you said you can have three kids.

01:18:25.000 Okay, wait.

01:18:26.000 Let's try this again.

01:18:26.000 I was like, AI.

01:18:28.000 I tried to make it bigger.

01:18:31.000 Yeah.

01:18:32.000 I have kids.

01:18:33.000 If you gave me a genie and you said you can have three wishes, and I said, I want unlimited money.

01:18:39.000 I want a 100% guarantee that I'm going to have zero complications in my pregnancy, my birth.

01:18:45.000 It's not going to cause any problems in my relationship at all.

01:18:48.000 And I'd magically have unlimited time to be able to do everything that I wanted as well as raise this child.

01:18:56.000 I still wouldn't do it.

01:18:58.000 Not everybody is meant to procreate.

01:19:01.000 And that is okay.

01:19:02.000 And it's not some kind of feminist brainwash telling me that I'm finally allowed or should be selfish.

01:19:08.000 It's that we are the first generation that's openly talking about it like this.

01:19:11.000 And it makes people mad.

01:19:13.000 Oh, but Tara, you're going to be missing out on so much if you don't have kids yet.

01:19:17.000 And you're going to be missing out on so much by having kids that I'm going to have in my child-free life.

01:19:22.000 That is okay.

01:19:23.000 That's not true.

01:19:24.000 Bookmark and check back in in 15 years.

01:19:27.000 But like babysitters exist.

01:19:29.000 Like the idea that you had a kid and all of a sudden now you can't do things.

01:19:32.000 Like, what are you doing?

01:19:33.000 You want to go on vacation?

01:19:34.000 You can bring your kid or you can hire a babysitter.

01:19:37.000 Or like, this is the funny thing.

01:19:39.000 The idiocy and the brainwashing of this.

01:19:43.000 We used to live with our families.

01:19:45.000 So like, if my wife and I want to go do something, guess what?

01:19:50.000 Mother-in-law, you know, or grandma will watch baby.

01:19:53.000 There's literally no concern or issue whatsoever.

01:19:55.000 The thing is, we usually just want to stay home and hang out with the kid.

01:19:59.000 Like, I would rather watch my daughter learning how to crawl.

01:20:03.000 It's exciting.

01:20:04.000 Than go do anything else.

01:20:06.000 This is the brainwashing that she doesn't understand because people aren't around family and kids anymore.

01:20:12.000 But because of this insanity, you now have a collapsing civilization everywhere, not just in the United States, because she doesn't understand.

01:20:22.000 And you know what it is?

01:20:23.000 It's like Dennis Prager called it with cut stem politics or whatever you call it, cut root.

01:20:28.000 I always get the phrase wrong, but he says, you hold up a beautiful flower and everyone can see how beautiful it is, but you've severed it from its roots.

01:20:34.000 And in a matter of time, it will die.

01:20:36.000 So what happens is you get women who are told to believe they can have it all.

01:20:40.000 They can't, so they don't.

01:20:42.000 Then they're told to justify why they don't have families and why they should be happy.

01:20:46.000 Then they go into media jobs and tell other women they're happy, trust me.

01:20:50.000 Then you get women who grow up, don't even understand.

01:20:55.000 So that argument from her is fascinating because if you wanted to be honest and you actually had kids and said, here's what it was like before I had kids, here's what it's like when I have kids.

01:21:04.000 What does almost every single parent tell you?

01:21:07.000 Kids are better.

01:21:08.000 I love my kids.

01:21:08.000 Kids are better.

01:21:10.000 I can't imagine living without them.

01:21:11.000 I should have had kids sooner.

01:21:12.000 I wish I had more.

01:21:13.000 Yet for some reason, all of the people who never had kids are like, I'm totally fine not having kids.

01:21:18.000 No, it's not just women.

01:21:19.000 I fell victim to that propaganda.

01:21:22.000 I had a good woman that, you know, that I need to make my millions yet.

01:21:26.000 I need to do my career.

01:21:28.000 And now I sit here, 10 years on, not married, childless.

01:21:32.000 I do go to Columbia a couple times a year, so I don't know.

01:21:34.000 But as far as I know, not, you know, I don't have any kids.

01:21:38.000 And it's pretty, it's harrowing because I think for a long time, I didn't think I wanted kids.

01:21:45.000 Now I do want kids for sure.

01:21:47.000 And now I start thinking, you know, my parents are getting older.

01:21:49.000 I've robbed them of the joy of watching their grandkids grow up.

01:21:54.000 And to your point, like, what am I going to do?

01:21:57.000 I'm going to be 60 in the club.

01:21:59.000 This is like I'm going to be sitting there with a bunch of cat ladies having another bottle and another and cat.

01:22:06.000 Like it's this idea that you had to be wealthy to have kids.

01:22:12.000 Everybody's broke.

01:22:14.000 I know people that make a million dollars a year and put half a million of it up their nose.

01:22:18.000 Like everybody's broke, dude.

01:22:20.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:22:21.000 So like broke state of mind a lot of times, too.

01:22:24.000 I had people figure it out.

01:22:26.000 Yeah, it's a big mistake I made.

01:22:28.000 And I feel very, very bad for our generation because we were definitely psyoped into.

01:22:32.000 Well, it's not just that.

01:22:34.000 The economy was bad.

01:22:35.000 There's a bunch of factors that conspired against us.

01:22:37.000 And we were told by these leftists and anti-America people, they fomented this problem.

01:22:42.000 But I want to say this.

01:22:45.000 I am successful.

01:22:46.000 I am of resources.

01:22:48.000 I could do a lot of things.

01:22:50.000 I could charter a private jet and go fly to Iceland and party over the weekend.

01:22:54.000 I could.

01:22:55.000 I could literally do whatever I wanted.

01:22:56.000 I could book a private jet for next weekend.

01:22:59.000 We got the skate event coming up this weekend for next weekend and go to Nolins and play poker in the big easy.

01:23:05.000 I don't want to.

01:23:06.000 My daughter has started waving for the first time.

01:23:09.000 So, you know, whenever my wife would see me, she'd come over, she waves, and then I would wave back.

01:23:16.000 And then, just the past couple of days, my daughter was almost nine months.

01:23:19.000 She's now waving her arm at us.

01:23:20.000 And we're like, she's learning.

01:23:22.000 And it's magic.

01:23:23.000 And I'm like, I got to be honest.

01:23:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:23:27.000 The thought of, I got to be real.

01:23:29.000 Like, life gets boring at a certain point.

01:23:32.000 I have traveled the world.

01:23:34.000 I have been to 30 some odd countries, like 36 different countries.

01:23:36.000 I have witnessed revolutions and the fomenting of civil war.

01:23:40.000 I was in Ukraine at the start of what turned into the civil war and now eventually a full-scale war.

01:23:45.000 I was in Egypt during revolution.

01:23:48.000 I got to be honest.

01:23:48.000 Eventually, it's just like it's kind of, I'd been there, done that.

01:23:53.000 And now I have a daughter, and it's like the most interesting thing ever and the most exciting thing seeing her grow and develop.

01:24:02.000 And these women are being told to what?

01:24:05.000 Go to the club for the 3,000th time, get drunk, and then go bang some random guy.

01:24:10.000 At a certain point, don't you get bored of doing nothing?

01:24:13.000 But at this time, it's in Mikonos.

01:24:15.000 Oh, I got to tell you, I have been to most of the countries I could care to be to, have traveled to, right?

01:24:25.000 Morocco.

01:24:27.000 I guess Antarctica might be fun, but we can still do that even with kids.

01:24:31.000 It's just at a certain point, I started to notice, yeah, Japan was really fun, but it's not distinct enough to want to go there all the time.

01:24:40.000 You want to move there, move there, good luck.

01:24:41.000 They're very, you know, not pro-immigration, but I guess now they are.

01:24:45.000 So at a certain point, I don't understand these women who are like, I just don't want to have kids.

01:24:49.000 I want to do stuff.

01:24:50.000 Do what?

01:24:51.000 Like, honest question: do what?

01:24:53.000 You've been to the club, you've been to the show, you've seen it a million times.

01:24:55.000 Culture is stagnating.

01:24:57.000 What more could interest you?

01:24:59.000 These women, I'll tell you this.

01:25:00.000 This is what I said of Chelsea Handler.

01:25:04.000 She's going to be 68, 70 years old, dying.

01:25:08.000 And they're going to bring her in to, she's going to be in the hospital room.

01:25:11.000 The doctor's going to come in and say, Ma'am, I'm sorry, but it's terminal.

01:25:16.000 Is there someone you'd like me to call?

01:25:18.000 And she's going to go, no.

01:25:20.000 And he's going to say, well, press the button if you need anybody.

01:25:23.000 And they're going to walk out.

01:25:24.000 And then she's going to be sitting there staring at the beige wall as she slowly dies.

01:25:27.000 That's hell.

01:25:29.000 Or you have kids and the doctor comes in and says, I have terrible news.

01:25:33.000 It's terminal.

01:25:34.000 Is there anyone you need me to call to say, no, my family's outside waiting.

01:25:37.000 And then your three kids and your seven grandkids are all standing there crying, saying they love you and they're going to be there for you till you know, and everything you've built and everything you've dreamed of will carry on forever.

01:25:47.000 That'll also give you the, that'll give you, as somebody who has family that's going through cancer right now, that gives you the will to fight on.

01:25:54.000 My God, I would not wish.

01:25:57.000 Imagine Chelsea Handler.

01:25:58.000 Would not wish them my worst enemy, her having terminal cancer in her twilight years in a hospital bed with all of the money that can buy her nothing, and she's just alone.

01:26:09.000 Because what's going to happen to these people, I tell you the nightmare story.

01:26:15.000 Let me put it like this: I'll try to be nice.

01:26:17.000 I'm hanging out at the casino playing poker, as I like to do, and there are guys who are like 77 years old playing poker every single day with their social security money.

01:26:28.000 And, you know, when I first started playing here, I was talking to some of the younger guys, and I was like, you know, what's with all the older dudes who just sit here and they barely play?

01:26:38.000 They'll get two cards and they'll throw them away no matter what almost.

01:26:41.000 And it's like, well, they don't want to lose their money because they're only here because they're lonely.

01:26:45.000 So these older guys have no friends.

01:26:48.000 Now, here's the kicker.

01:26:50.000 They have family.

01:26:50.000 Their kids grew up.

01:26:51.000 Their kids are off doing their thing.

01:26:53.000 And they're lonely, but the reality is their friends are all dead.

01:26:55.000 And so I'm like, this old dude who's spending his Sunday 12 hours sitting at a table, not really playing the game.

01:27:03.000 Like they call him old man coffee.

01:27:05.000 Just to be around somebody.

01:27:06.000 Because their friends are all dead.

01:27:08.000 And so they're around a guy's conversation might happen.

01:27:11.000 And one of the days was really funny.

01:27:13.000 I'm a goofball sometimes at the poker table.

01:27:16.000 And so old man finally raises.

01:27:18.000 And you know what's happening when the old man does this?

01:27:19.000 He's got ACES.

01:27:20.000 He's got the best hand.

01:27:21.000 And so I had something trash like 7-4 off suit.

01:27:24.000 And I just, I'll give the old man action.

01:27:26.000 I call.

01:27:26.000 Hit two pairs, beat him.

01:27:28.000 He was there for like 20 minutes.

01:27:29.000 He stands up and goes, well, I guess that's it.

01:27:34.000 And then just turns around, starts walking off.

01:27:35.000 And I'm like, welling up, like, oh, man.

01:27:38.000 Yeah, that's why I stopped playing, taking people's money.

01:27:40.000 And then it's not about that.

01:27:42.000 It wasn't about taking his money.

01:27:43.000 It's that he only had a little bit.

01:27:46.000 And what he really wanted was just to spend time with the boys.

01:27:49.000 But here's the sad reality.

01:27:50.000 There's a point.

01:27:51.000 They don't have the boys anymore.

01:27:53.000 Let me tell you another thing that's going to rip out the heart of all the millennial guys.

01:27:57.000 You're hanging out with your buddies.

01:27:59.000 You could have staked them, Tim.

01:28:00.000 Yeah, you could have slid a 20.

01:28:00.000 Hold on.

01:28:02.000 You're hanging out with your friends playing Halo, multiplayer.

01:28:05.000 You ordered some pizzas and wings, and the Mountain Dew is right there on the table.

01:28:09.000 It's messy.

01:28:10.000 Someone's rolling a joint.

01:28:12.000 And you play.

01:28:13.000 It's about one in the morning.

01:28:15.000 You're going to go home, go to sleep.

01:28:17.000 You've got class in the morning.

01:28:18.000 So you get up and you say, all right, boys, till next time.

01:28:21.000 And they say, right on.

01:28:22.000 But there never was a next time.

01:28:25.000 That was the last time you guys got together and played video games and you didn't know was the last time.

01:28:28.000 That one doesn't get me as much because I'm about to play some Fallout 76 with my homies from high school.

01:28:33.000 And now we all have kids.

01:28:35.000 Well, not I have to.

01:28:36.000 The point is, at a certain point, I forgot that I don't have kids.

01:28:39.000 There is a last time for everything.

01:28:41.000 There was a funny post on Reddit where they said, at one point, you picked up your child for the last time and you didn't realize it.

01:28:47.000 And it was really funny because a guy commented saying, my dad walked into my, he's like, he was 20.

01:28:52.000 He's like, I'm 20 years old.

01:28:53.000 My dad walked into the kitchen, lifted me up.

01:28:55.000 And I said, Dad, what the hell are you doing?

01:28:57.000 And he was like, like, hell, I haven't picked up my son in the last time.

01:29:01.000 You're my kid.

01:29:02.000 But, but what I'm saying is to these women who don't have kids, when I see these old men who even did have kids and are still looking for some kind of time to spend with other people, it is the utmost of horrifying hellscape realities.

01:29:17.000 You know, they say that the final circle of hell, the ninth circle of hell, you are chewed in the mouth of Satan, surrounded by ice for eternity for your betrayal.

01:29:26.000 And if I had to choose between dying lonely in a sterile and at least Satan is there with you.

01:29:34.000 Like solitary confinement is torture because humans need the presence of others.

01:29:38.000 That's right.

01:29:39.000 So these Chelsea handler type women who are going to be dying of, you know, experiencing renal failure in the hospital.

01:29:47.000 And here's my point about Chelsea Handler.

01:29:50.000 Those who know who she is and care what she has to say are going to die.

01:29:54.000 She will be an old woman, and Jen Alpha and Jen Brava are going to be like, I don't know who that lady is.

01:29:59.000 Yeah, she's selling the disease of loneliness.

01:30:02.000 I remember when George Burns died.

01:30:03.000 You guys remember when George Burns died?

01:30:05.000 Meant nothing to me.

01:30:06.000 But for my, I remember my parents were like, wow.

01:30:10.000 I remember when George Carlin died.

01:30:12.000 And that meant something to me a little bit because as a child, I saw some of these George Carlin comedy specials.

01:30:16.000 I knew he was famous.

01:30:18.000 And I was a fan as I was growing up as a teenager.

01:30:20.000 But I know if you go to most Gen Z people, the death of George Carlin's like, I don't know, he's a guy who died.

01:30:25.000 John Madden for me.

01:30:26.000 And right.

01:30:27.000 And so Chelsea Handler will come to that point where the younger generation is like, we don't know or care who you are.

01:30:32.000 Yeah, your fans aren't your friends.

01:30:33.000 I mean, no offense, people watching probably you feel a kinship, but the reality is you're family, man.

01:30:39.000 The people that you spend every day with and build this, what's called pragma.

01:30:42.000 It's a kind of love.

01:30:43.000 It's this pragmatic love that's developed through overcoming adversity with people.

01:30:47.000 That's your family.

01:30:48.000 Chelsea Handler is going to spend her twilight years when she is not convalesced in her estate with some like gen Gen alpha or Gen Bravo caretaker who's wiping her ass and changing her diapers.

01:31:02.000 And she's going to be a bitter old crone, like in those movies.

01:31:06.000 And the kids outside are going to be playing baseball and they're going to be like, the ball lands in her lawn and go, no, no, don't go over there.

01:31:12.000 That's old lady Handler's house.

01:31:14.000 And they're going to, some kids are going to be like, I ain't scared of no witch.

01:31:16.000 And they're going to run over to grab the ball and she's going to look out the window and go, you get a fight.

01:31:21.000 Old lady handler.

01:31:22.000 I would say people like her that you read in this article, including Chelsea Handler, is that they have lost their purpose.

01:31:28.000 And that's the biggest thing with these women today is they have no purpose.

01:31:31.000 They think the money, the career is their purpose.

01:31:34.000 No, it isn't.

01:31:35.000 It's just like a man, what is our purpose to protect, to provide, to build?

01:31:39.000 And a woman's purpose is to nurture, right?

01:31:43.000 Support.

01:31:44.000 And there's a lot of skills and innate talent that women have that are going to waste.

01:31:49.000 And they're, you know, going into these careers, which there's nothing wrong with getting a career, but there is nothing like having our eyes.

01:31:55.000 Exactly.

01:31:56.000 But there's nothing like having children.

01:31:57.000 And the people who rage against having children are people who don't have children.

01:32:01.000 It's from a place of ignorance.

01:32:03.000 A friend of ours.

01:32:04.000 That's a great point.

01:32:04.000 A friend of ours from the UK.

01:32:05.000 His name's Carl.

01:32:07.000 He continuously tells people, you have a responsibility to have children.

01:32:13.000 You have a responsibility to raise those children to carry on humanity.

01:32:19.000 Let me just, I'll get to the meat and potatoes here.

01:32:23.000 This woman saying she won't have kids, not her personal, because I don't know her politics, but many of these women are liberal leftists.

01:32:30.000 They vote for Kami Mamdani.

01:32:32.000 How dare you demand that my child pay taxes so you can be funded by the state because you didn't have a family?

01:32:42.000 When most of these millennial men and women who vote left are struggling to walk and crapping in their pants, the state is, it's going to happen because there are so many childless men and women, particularly millennials.

01:32:56.000 They are going to be propped up by the state.

01:32:58.000 They're going to vote.

01:32:59.000 They're going to be in their 50s and 60s.

01:33:01.000 And they're going to say, we want the government to clean our butts.

01:33:04.000 And that means the money for that is going to come from my daughter.

01:33:07.000 It'll be millennials and possibly Gen Z that are going to be saying terrible things or that are going to be relying on young people to pay for them.

01:33:18.000 And those same people currently right now are bitching about the boomers, how the boomers didn't do anything for them and blah, blah, blah.

01:33:27.000 And they're doing the exact same thing.

01:33:29.000 By not having kids, they're making it so that way the younger generations are going to have more and more of a difficult time to pay for their Social Security, their Medicare, their Medicaid.

01:33:39.000 It's disgusting when you really think about it.

01:33:41.000 It's not just that boomers own the corporate equities and the properties.

01:33:44.000 It's that these millennial women, largely femme, and the reason I'm saying women is not to highlight, not to single out women if not having kids because men don't have kids too.

01:33:52.000 It's because they overwhelmingly vote left and the right doesn't.

01:33:56.000 They're expecting Gen Alpha and Bravo to pay Social Security taxes so the government can wipe their asses for them when they're elderly and dying.

01:34:04.000 They've been promised a life without accountability.

01:34:08.000 Responsibility?

01:34:08.000 That's what it is.

01:34:09.000 They've been sold.

01:34:10.000 And this is what socialism does.

01:34:12.000 They've been sold a life, sans accountability.

01:34:15.000 Nothing's your fault.

01:34:16.000 Nothing will ever be your fault.

01:34:18.000 Nothing was ever on you.

01:34:19.000 But instead, they've been given a life without purpose, to your point.

01:34:22.000 Exactly.

01:34:23.000 You know, Tim, you said something earlier, which is when you make a lot of money, which I do now, I'm very blessed.

01:34:28.000 I will say that.

01:34:29.000 Congratulations.

01:34:30.000 You realize, wow, it really doesn't matter.

01:34:35.000 I mean, you realize, well, if I lost it, I can make it again.

01:34:38.000 Or you realize, especially when you have kids, yeah, my son right now, who I just miss him right now.

01:34:44.000 I literally would rather be there.

01:34:44.000 You know what I mean?

01:34:46.000 I love being here, by the way, but you know what I mean.

01:34:48.000 That feeling of like, oh man, I got to leave right now.

01:34:51.000 Well, we were in, we went to DC for the Comedy Loft show, and my wife and daughter stay.

01:34:57.000 Or actually, a better example is I went to Austin to do a bunch of going to other people's shows.

01:35:01.000 I was just the whole time being like, I'd rather be back there hanging out with family.

01:35:05.000 Like I said, it is infinitely more interesting to me when my daughter waved to me for the first time than literally anything else.

01:35:14.000 And to be fair, you know, I'm almost 40, so I have done a lot.

01:35:17.000 And the argument is like, you're in your 20s and you want to see the world and you want to do things, but all of that is still possible.

01:35:22.000 Yeah.

01:35:26.000 I would have rather have had a kid younger and then now be like, okay, now I'm going to go travel and do stuff that, you know, empty nests or whatever you got to do.

01:35:35.000 But, you know, it could go either way.

01:35:37.000 What I will just say is I feel like everything that was interesting to me, I've largely done.

01:35:43.000 And most things now are of trivial novelty.

01:35:47.000 So if someone's like, you want to go golfing?

01:35:49.000 I'll go, eh, I guess.

01:35:51.000 We'll go to top golf.

01:35:52.000 And it's just like, I'm not obsessed with it.

01:35:55.000 I'm not psychotically passionate about it.

01:35:58.000 I'm particularly obsessive.

01:35:59.000 That's why I work 16-hour days.

01:36:01.000 But with having a daughter, that's just infinitely more interesting than anything else I could think of right now.

01:36:08.000 And, you know, to be honest, like, we definitely wanted to have a kid sooner.

01:36:11.000 We should have had a kid sooner.

01:36:12.000 It is what it is.

01:36:12.000 It happened, how it happened.

01:36:13.000 And I'm glad we have the daughter we have.

01:36:15.000 And we're actually planning on having more kids.

01:36:17.000 But I'm just sitting here thinking of these women.

01:36:20.000 Again, to go to the point I made before, at what point are you like, the club is boring?

01:36:25.000 There is no return on an investment in the way that they think.

01:36:28.000 None.

01:36:29.000 Results show that.

01:36:30.000 History has shown that.

01:36:32.000 It's like what we were saying in the car, which is they manufacture problems thinking they need to solve these made-up problems.

01:36:38.000 Like the problem is, oh, women can have a career.

01:36:40.000 When did that actually become a problem exactly?

01:36:42.000 When the pharmaceutical companies decided to figured out that they could put half the country on birth control and SSRIs forever.

01:36:49.000 So let's just bump this down.

01:36:51.000 I will add as a final thought too, like there were corporations and people in government that thought we can double the economic output by putting women in the workplace and compete in the Cold War.

01:37:02.000 It's like, how do we beat the Soviets?

01:37:04.000 If women work, we're going to double our economic output.

01:37:07.000 And here we are.

01:37:08.000 But we're going to go to your chats in the Discord backstage.

01:37:11.000 So my friends, all of you hanging out backstage right now, send in your questions because some of you have already inferred correctly that I wanted some chats to come in so that we jump to it.

01:37:24.000 We'll have some already in the roster, which we do.

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01:37:47.000 You get in that Discord community.

01:37:48.000 You'll make friends.

01:37:50.000 Some people have actually gotten married.

01:37:52.000 I think like five couples now.

01:37:55.000 That's pretty wild.

01:37:56.000 Yeah.

01:37:57.000 It's community, man.

01:37:58.000 This is what it's all about.

01:37:59.000 You're in flow state a lot, too.

01:38:01.000 When people are in flow state, they fall in love.

01:38:03.000 That is, I've noticed that over the years.

01:38:05.000 You find like-minded people, and you will be surprised what you find.

01:38:09.000 I don't want to tell you that you're going to find love by joining the Demcast Discord, but some people did.

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01:38:28.000 And now we're going to grab your questions.

01:38:30.000 Let's see what we got here in the old IRL Discord chat.

01:38:33.000 I went too far back, I think.

01:38:35.000 Here we go.

01:38:35.000 What do we have?

01:38:36.000 Kevin Adele says, can these people on the right claiming the beeper joke was a threat against Megan be trusted on anything if they believe the joke was funny against Media San?

01:38:45.000 I say no.

01:38:45.000 They're just like the left and only support free speech when they agree with it.

01:38:49.000 It's hypocritical.

01:38:49.000 I agree.

01:38:51.000 When I saw the beeper joke about Megan Kelly, I saw them, Babylon B when they posted it.

01:38:56.000 I went, eh.

01:38:57.000 I was more surprised they were going after Megan Kelly in this way because I was like, I don't recall Megan Kelly actually doing anything to warrant being called a Hamas supporter, which is wild.

01:39:07.000 The fact that there's so much, you know, so many people on the right that are going after other people on the right, it's frustrating because, again, there are real tangible problems that the United States is facing.

01:39:20.000 And to spend your time just going after other people that have what at the end of the day is a minor disagreement, a small disagreement.

01:39:30.000 To me, it's counterproductive and you're only helping the left.

01:39:33.000 And you know what else is worse is when they attempt to go after these people but won't say their name.

01:39:39.000 Like if you're going to talk about Candace Owens, just say her name.

01:39:41.000 Just say what it is.

01:39:42.000 Go fall.

01:39:43.000 So somebody commented in Discord earlier in the show.

01:39:46.000 They said, Tim is attacking a lot of people this week.

01:39:48.000 And my response to that is just when I criticize leftists, I'm not attacking people.

01:39:54.000 The issue right now is my criticisms are aimed at people who are of the right, which I typically don't do because I'll give them the benefit of the doubt because I think that we're aligned mostly.

01:40:04.000 It's not because I think they're always right.

01:40:08.000 The left, I don't trust and get no benefit of the doubt.

01:40:10.000 So when the left comes out and acts a fool, I'll say they're acting a fool.

01:40:13.000 When Candace does something, I'll be like, well, I don't know.

01:40:15.000 I don't know.

01:40:15.000 You know, I want to be careful here.

01:40:17.000 But now we're at the point where it's just overt and obvious and all worthy of critique and criticism.

01:40:22.000 And I'll also stress too, because people were mad that I said Nick Fuentes was frail and effeminate.

01:40:27.000 That's not me attacking his positions.

01:40:29.000 It's me pointing out that Nick, and I don't mean this derisively to insult him.

01:40:35.000 He is a small, thin, frail man.

01:40:38.000 Like he's not, well, a small is maybe a little bit more extreme.

01:40:42.000 He's like 5'7, 5'8, but he's fairly thin.

01:40:42.000 What is he like?

01:40:46.000 My point is a lot of young guys, if they emulate him, they're not getting a fitness routine elements or some kind of exercise.

01:40:54.000 And people were like, wow, Tim's attacking Nick.

01:40:56.000 And I'm like, well, offering a light critique for saying he should promote fitness along with what he's promoting, I guess.

01:41:02.000 I don't know.

01:41:03.000 But that's silly.

01:41:04.000 He should do a yoga video.

01:41:06.000 No, he should not.

01:41:07.000 I'd like to see him stretch.

01:41:08.000 I'll say the same thing of Ian.

01:41:10.000 I'm not frail, though.

01:41:11.000 I'm limber and tight.

01:41:12.000 How much do you weigh?

01:41:13.000 Slash 133 today.

01:41:15.000 I'm 33.

01:41:17.000 I'm 5'7.

01:41:17.000 5'11.

01:41:19.000 I weigh 180 pounds.

01:41:20.000 Yeah, but it's like my visceral fat level is a two.

01:41:24.000 It's extremely healthy on the inside.

01:41:26.000 Yeah, you're making me feel overweight.

01:41:28.000 Oh, well, man.

01:41:29.000 I'm just like the low end of healthy weight.

01:41:31.000 You should come to the gym with me.

01:41:33.000 I have a gym in my house.

01:41:33.000 I'd be double.

01:41:33.000 Yeah.

01:41:34.000 I'd be dying.

01:41:35.000 We tried.

01:41:36.000 We actually did this, and Ian did put on some weight.

01:41:39.000 We hired a personal trainer and had him.

01:41:41.000 I don't like carrying it.

01:41:42.000 It requires a lot of expertise.

01:41:42.000 It's heavy.

01:41:43.000 I don't believe that for us.

01:41:44.000 What is your diet?

01:41:46.000 Lentils.

01:41:47.000 Lentils, like soups, lean meats, sometimes cheese.

01:41:52.000 I get this moon cheese.

01:41:53.000 I buy like bags of dehydrated cheese.

01:41:55.000 Those are for my proteins, late-night fats and stuff.

01:41:58.000 Low sugar, coconut water.

01:42:01.000 So you only eat once a day or two.

01:42:03.000 I prefer to eat once a day, big meals, once a day.

01:42:06.000 Intermittent fasting.

01:42:06.000 I eat once a day.

01:42:07.000 And I'm 5'10, 185.

01:42:09.000 I cut gluten out.

01:42:10.000 I barely do any wheat, and that is a huge reduction in like just excessive gunk in my system.

01:42:16.000 That was causing me inflammatory issues.

01:42:16.000 I agree.

01:42:16.000 I cut that out.

01:42:19.000 But I like feeling hungry.

01:42:20.000 I enjoy the feeling of the internal struggle, the working out my insides by eating all the garbage.

01:42:26.000 You would be successful in the military.

01:42:28.000 Thank you, sir.

01:42:29.000 Slick says, nobody's really talking about what's been done to Alex Jones.

01:42:29.000 All right.

01:42:33.000 What are your thoughts on everything from the bogus default judgment and the end of Infowars?

01:42:37.000 When will the right step in to stop this?

01:42:38.000 Or are they just going to let it happen and still not use the same tactic on the corporate media that sent us to war for lies and sparked violence in the summer of love?

01:42:45.000 That was me that made the attack comment, and you missed the part where the commies aren't people.

01:42:45.000 So I don't know.

01:42:49.000 Oh, okay.

01:42:49.000 Commies aren't people.

01:42:49.000 Important.

01:42:52.000 I actually talked about this.

01:42:53.000 The Supreme Court rejected Alex Jones' appeal.

01:42:56.000 And I said the Supreme Court are cowards.

01:42:59.000 This is why I've been saying, forgive me if it's blackbilled.

01:43:02.000 It's like, save yourselves.

01:43:04.000 Like, again, the H-1B visa thing from Trump, the Supreme Court refusing to take up the gay marriage issue or the Alex Jones issue.

01:43:10.000 No one is coming to save you.

01:43:11.000 The left is going to keep ramming things forward because there's nothing but cowards.

01:43:16.000 Vote Republican means vote for cowards to stand there crying and cowering even when they're in power.

01:43:20.000 Vote for Democrats or not.

01:43:22.000 They're going to smash things anyway.

01:43:24.000 You know what?

01:43:25.000 Sorry.

01:43:26.000 You got to do it yourself.

01:43:27.000 Don't throw your vote away.

01:43:28.000 And what I mean by that is don't just vote and walk away from it.

01:43:31.000 You got to do it yourself.

01:43:32.000 Put people in power that are the least worst choices, but you got to do it yourself.

01:43:36.000 You have to be willing to play by the rules the other team is willing to play on.

01:43:39.000 Like, if the other team breaks the rules and you don't, you're not noble.

01:43:42.000 You're a sucker.

01:43:43.000 Okay.

01:43:44.000 Okay.

01:43:44.000 Supreme Court says we're not going to test this.

01:43:46.000 Then Rachel Maddow, everybody that said every lie about everything in the media for the last 10 years, sue them under the same precedent.

01:43:55.000 Use the destiny to go after everyone.

01:43:57.000 You have a sitting member of Congress who essentially called the president a pedophile.

01:44:01.000 She will not be held liable for that.

01:44:03.000 Well, there's the, what you call it?

01:44:05.000 The debate and was it debate and clause or whatever?

01:44:08.000 If they're speaking on the floor of Congress, they can't be.

01:44:11.000 Well, we do have a law.

01:44:12.000 It's a McCarthy-era law.

01:44:13.000 Dan Holloway talked to me about it yesterday.

01:44:15.000 And it is a law.

01:44:17.000 It's great.

01:44:18.000 It's the communist.

01:44:19.000 What is this?

01:44:20.000 Communist control.

01:44:21.000 Communist control act.

01:44:22.000 Communist control act.

01:44:23.000 It's still a law.

01:44:24.000 Now, there are parts of it that the Supreme Court has struck down, but it's only parts of it.

01:44:29.000 It's not the full law.

01:44:30.000 And to that point, we should be doing tests about who we allow in the United States.

01:44:37.000 If you have an ideology that is abhorrent to our fundamental principles, like communism, if you don't believe in property rights and stuff, you should not be allowed to become an American.

01:44:48.000 That should be disqualifying.

01:44:50.000 You do not get to come to the United States and become a citizen for the purpose of subverting our system.

01:44:57.000 And that should be obvious to everyone.

01:44:59.000 And then you definitely don't get to run for office in Minnesota.

01:45:02.000 100%.

01:45:03.000 So you guys are in support of having a king then.

01:45:06.000 I don't care what you call.

01:45:09.000 I don't think my personal politics would be very.

01:45:12.000 I have fairly radical views.

01:45:13.000 I don't think that I'm against universal enfranchisement.

01:45:16.000 I think that you should have some kind of stake in our society if you're going to vote.

01:45:20.000 I think that specifically for federal elections, there should be some kind of test or some kind of criteria that you meet to be able to vote in the innovation.

01:45:29.000 I'm going to prefer the term emperor or Augustus to vote and voter ID, please.

01:45:34.000 Well, absolutely, 100%.

01:45:35.000 But I think that if you're dealing with state level, I think that then you can make a more compelling argument about universal enfranchisement on a state level.

01:45:44.000 But when it comes to federal level, the powers that the federal government has are supposed to be very limited.

01:45:49.000 They're expressly articulated in the Constitution.

01:45:52.000 So we shouldn't have everybody voting to have a total democracy when it comes to federal law.

01:45:59.000 You want to have that for states?

01:46:00.000 That's okay.

01:46:02.000 But not when it comes to federal law.

01:46:03.000 There should be stringent rules and there should be stringent criteria that you have to meet if you're going to vote for a federal vote.

01:46:10.000 I think in order to—he doesn't believe you.

01:46:13.000 You want to, if you're, all elected office must be naturally born Americans.

01:46:16.000 There you go.

01:46:17.000 Yeah.

01:46:18.000 I don't disagree with that.

01:46:20.000 Anything that lowers the number of uninformed voters, in my opinion, is great.

01:46:24.000 And people that will say, people will sit there and say, well, what about you?

01:46:27.000 Would you give up your right to vote?

01:46:29.000 I would give up my right to vote in a heartbeat if I knew that the Constitution was going to protect my rights and that I knew that there weren't going to be people that were going to be allowed to vote the federal government to give them benefits.

01:46:42.000 All right, we got I Make Parts says, to Phil's point, is it possible that Trump is checking the temperature with H-1B to see what the reaction from the base is?

01:46:50.000 I don't think so.

01:46:51.000 I think there's a reality that Trump knows economically we need more workers to keep things going.

01:46:56.000 He saw what happened last year with Vivek Ramaswamy.

01:46:59.000 So I'm sure he's definitely aware.

01:47:02.000 I love the cope.

01:47:03.000 Every time Trump does something, it's always, it's really this the first move on the chessboard.

01:47:07.000 See how there's a reaction.

01:47:09.000 No, the dude spoke and Bessett was like, no, don't say it like that.

01:47:13.000 Say we got 6 million jobs, only 600,000 Americans.

01:47:16.000 Why would you say it like that?

01:47:17.000 Donald Trump is the king of throwing stuff against the wall and seeing what sticks.

01:47:20.000 Yeah, he just, he needs attention.

01:47:22.000 He's addicted to attention.

01:47:24.000 So if he's not saying anything spicy, he's not getting the headlines.

01:47:28.000 He likes it.

01:47:29.000 Here's a good combo.

01:47:30.000 We have Braxton, 3300, and Joe Clay.

01:47:31.000 Braxton says, how do you think we reconcile the youth with the boomers considering the youth were left with nothing and the boomers are dying with everything?

01:47:38.000 Joe Clay says, how can anyone on the right claim that student loan forgiveness is a good idea?

01:47:42.000 It's ridiculous.

01:47:43.000 This is a great combo question because my proposal for student loan forgiveness is not to forgive the principal, but the interest.

01:47:50.000 So what you'd say is if you took out 50K as of a certain point of time, like first, we're going to stop the loan system.

01:47:57.000 Colleges should not be subsidized by the loan system.

01:48:00.000 Then for all these people who are saddled with debt, it makes no sense that you took out a $50,000 loan, paid back $200,000 15 years later and still owe $50,000.

01:48:09.000 So what we do is we say, you got to pay back what you were given.

01:48:12.000 Interest is forgiven.

01:48:14.000 And if you've already paid more in interest than your principal, then we're writing off the rest of your debt because you've overpaid.

01:48:22.000 This is a split the baby kind of thing.

01:48:24.000 We have to recognize that our country under the liberal economic order lied to young people and told them to take out massive debt and become indentured servants.

01:48:32.000 And they are pissed.

01:48:33.000 If we don't release that pressure, you are going to get communist revolution.

01:48:38.000 The young people are basically saying, you lied to me.

01:48:41.000 I can't pay this back and I can't find a job.

01:48:44.000 So I'm going to vote in communists to burn the whole thing down.

01:48:46.000 Or we can say, how about this?

01:48:48.000 We're going to forgive the interest, meaning kids fresh out of college who owe 50 grand, they still got to pay back 50 grand.

01:48:56.000 But if you're 35 and you've already paid back 60 of the 50, we wipe that 50 off and apply the 10,000 to your taxes.

01:49:04.000 So you've repaid every penny that was given to you, but now you have an opportunity to start saving and build some wealth, start a family, whatever it is you need to do.

01:49:14.000 I don't think we should say, here's free money, go spend it.

01:49:17.000 Oh, now forget about it.

01:49:18.000 You never got to pay it back because that is, it's going to gut a large portion of the economy.

01:49:23.000 But I will stress again.

01:49:25.000 So for the first question of reconciling with boomers who have everything to the young people, basically letting these younger people know, older Gen Z, we get it.

01:49:34.000 You need an opportunity and the debt's holding you back and the degree isn't helping you.

01:49:39.000 So we are going to say, you paid for your degree.

01:49:41.000 You get it.

01:49:42.000 Here's the interest off.

01:49:43.000 Have some relief, otherwise, it's tits up.

01:49:46.000 Yeah, and I would actually add on to that and say: if we really want to forgive their loans, then the price that they should pay is getting into a trade engineering lawyer, some type of specialized skill.

01:49:58.000 And in the end, your loan gets forgiven.

01:50:00.000 But we know you're getting trained on something that is going to further this economy.

01:50:04.000 That's the GI Bill argument, right?

01:50:06.000 Like, okay, we can get rid of your student loans, you know, certain serve in the military, and that's fine.

01:50:09.000 But there's a predatory aspect to this that gets like it really is a consumer protection issue.

01:50:14.000 And it's not just kids.

01:50:15.000 Like, so I'm working on a project right now.

01:50:18.000 There's a real project that we're working on.

01:50:19.000 You try to get a loan $100,000 for a movie, they won't give you a loan as an adult with credit score, right?

01:50:24.000 But if me and six other people, actors and crew members, we're going to apply to a community college, we're going to take out loans to go to community college and the community college.

01:50:33.000 We're going to have access to all the equipment we need, all of the sets, all of the sounds, and we're going to make a movie within a movie.

01:50:41.000 But the real thing is a documentary about how basically we're defrauding the community college out of like, we're not going to go to class.

01:50:46.000 We're literally just there to take our $2,000 loans and get the movie made inside of it because we can't get a loan to make the film, but we can get a loan to go to community college.

01:50:56.000 So imagine this.

01:50:58.000 It's completely legal.

01:51:00.000 Here's a fun one: imagine being 18 and going to a bank and saying, I would like $40,000, a $40,000 loan to buy silver.

01:51:09.000 In four years, I will pay you back.

01:51:12.000 They're going to say, absolutely not.

01:51:15.000 Then if you go, I want a loan $40,000 and hopefully I'll get a job to pay you back with.

01:51:21.000 They go, sounds good to us.

01:51:23.000 It's crazy.

01:51:24.000 They're giving you $40,000, and there's literally no collateral, no guarantee.

01:51:27.000 And you can't declare bankruptcy.

01:51:28.000 It's just like, it makes no sense.

01:51:30.000 That's where, just really quickly, that's where the president got it wrong because he pushed back on universities going out of business.

01:51:36.000 No, I think we would happily support some universities going out of business.

01:51:40.000 Oh, I know.

01:51:41.000 Because they have made their money and some.

01:51:44.000 All right.

01:51:44.000 Moonman says, with all the talk about families trying to foster a resurgence of babies, would y'all be willing to make a dating channel?

01:51:50.000 Could be as simple as just a place to more specifically ask for advice.

01:51:53.000 Yeah, I'll be the main guy.

01:51:54.000 I need to find a woman.

01:51:55.000 So, yeah, I'll be the guy.

01:51:56.000 Bring women in.

01:51:57.000 I'll talk to them.

01:51:58.000 Sounds like the Discord.

01:51:59.000 I think it's already there.

01:52:00.000 It is.

01:52:01.000 That's what he's asking for in the Discord to have a channel just for dating advice and stuff.

01:52:04.000 But all jokes aside, part of like living in Miami now, man, like the ideological part of it is a hard thing.

01:52:12.000 You fall in love with somebody or you fall in lust with them from the way that they look.

01:52:16.000 But then, as you get to know each other, having somebody that is already ideologically aligned with you is going to remove a massive hurdle.

01:52:23.000 I mean, that's why so many people, you know, went to church for so long and they had that community.

01:52:27.000 If nothing else, we have our, our, you know, our values are the same based in faith, right?

01:52:32.000 So having the ideologically aligned dating is, I mean, J-Dates are very popular for a reason.

01:52:39.000 It's not, it's not the worst idea in the world.

01:52:41.000 Tim Cast date.

01:52:42.000 All right.

01:52:43.000 Let's see what we got here.

01:52:44.000 Discord likes to hide.

01:52:46.000 Junk John K says, just want to say Nick Fritis and Dave Tate are leaders of men.

01:52:52.000 Those that follow Nick Fuentes and Andrew Tate are little boys.

01:52:54.000 The day I see Andrew squat 600 pounds two weeks after his hip replacement walking under the bar with a cane, I will give him respect.

01:53:01.000 You know what the thing is, though?

01:53:03.000 Nick Fritis is great.

01:53:04.000 And there was a really great moment on the show where he said that his wife had said something to his daughter about being like, hey, I forgot what he said, but she was like, scolded.

01:53:14.000 And then his daughter's walking through the hallway and making a face like insulting her mom.

01:53:19.000 And she didn't realize that he was there.

01:53:21.000 And he stopped her and was like, don't you talk about my wife that way?

01:53:24.000 And I told my wife that and she smiled and she's like, yes, you have to be like that.

01:53:28.000 And I'm like, right, that's what that's what you should.

01:53:29.000 You want to teach responsibility.

01:53:31.000 And like, I get that his daughter wasn't really doing.

01:53:33.000 She was venting to herself, but dad caught you.

01:53:35.000 Don't act untoward.

01:53:37.000 The thing is, people feel there's a cathartic release from Fuentes and Andrew Tate in their rage, in their anger, and in their aggression.

01:53:37.000 So I agree.

01:53:47.000 It makes people feel like it's a sense of justice.

01:53:51.000 Something wrongs them.

01:53:52.000 Something is bad for them.

01:53:54.000 And these guys are aggressive about it.

01:53:56.000 And it makes you feel like it's cathartic.

01:54:00.000 Testosterone feels good.

01:54:01.000 Well, they're just not cowards.

01:54:03.000 For so long, you know, everybody's walked around eggshells, especially in the comedy community, about what you can say, what you can't say.

01:54:09.000 So even if I disagree with everything, the fact they say it, you're like, oh, well, guy's got, he's got some stones.

01:54:14.000 Good for him on that.

01:54:15.000 At least it's not cowardly.

01:54:16.000 Yeah, I would say they're a byproduct of feminism, meaning it's the side effect.

01:54:20.000 You're too extreme with what you want women to be or do.

01:54:23.000 And as a result, here comes Andrew Tate.

01:54:26.000 Right?

01:54:27.000 So it's a polar extreme.

01:54:28.000 Thesis.

01:54:29.000 Jeffrey C. asks, how do we respect the free speech of the popular conservatives like Candace, but at the same time, get them to stop being a distraction from the America we are trying to create?

01:54:38.000 First, you stop.

01:54:39.000 You're not getting at it.

01:54:40.000 No, no, you're a big part of it.

01:54:41.000 You don't.

01:54:42.000 The reality is Democrats have realized this a long time ago.

01:54:47.000 Regular people want to chase after the shiny object.

01:54:51.000 And that's why they don't know what's going on.

01:54:53.000 That's why they think Trump called Nazis fine people.

01:54:55.000 And we are trying desperately to educate those people and capture their attention, which is difficult.

01:54:59.000 If Candace wants to do a true crime drama, Blake Livey celebrity gossip and Macron's a man, Bridget McCronese or Man or whatever, she's allowed to do it the same as Rosie O'Donnell is allowed to say whatever nonsense she wants.

01:55:10.000 It's just fair to say that Candace is not a part of the coalition to make America better, to improve the country.

01:55:17.000 I view her largely the same as like Caller Daddy.

01:55:21.000 And with all due respect to Caller Daddy being a successful show that sold for $100 million or whatever.

01:55:25.000 And Candace, she's bragging about how she got the number one podcast now in the country and all that.

01:55:30.000 It's like, absolutely.

01:55:31.000 This generalist stuff is going to always get a bigger swath of the audience share.

01:55:38.000 I found if you do the shiny object metaphor is great.

01:55:42.000 You become an even shinier object that maybe her audience will also watch yours.

01:55:46.000 But what you really want is Candace to watch your stuff and then to appreciate your stuff.

01:55:51.000 And then that's how you help your friends evolve.

01:55:55.000 And then maybe her work will.

01:55:56.000 I mean, I think Candace personally, I find her to be like she's an actor that because the politics were so crazy over the last 15 years, she just got into politics and she's very uses her charisma.

01:56:06.000 But she loves entertaining people.

01:56:07.000 And like, you know, Candace in a movie would be hilarious.

01:56:10.000 So if you want to do something, Candy.

01:56:12.000 Yeah, Candace.

01:56:13.000 Yeah, I think being a conservative commentator today is difficult because you're dealing with an audience that isn't just going to listen to what you say.

01:56:20.000 You got to explain yourself.

01:56:22.000 However, when you go to the left, especially on YouTube, there's a podcast on YouTube that's been number one or number two, depending on what day you look.

01:56:30.000 It's all about Trump this and Trump that and Trump's sick and Trump just had a seizure and their audience literally wants to believe that stuff.

01:56:37.000 It's all clickbait.

01:56:38.000 Oh, bro.

01:56:38.000 Like, listen, y'all just need to understand.

01:56:42.000 You can give me any subject and I can talk for 27 years on it.

01:56:45.000 If I wanted to be unscrupulous and make a bunch of money, I could make the best anti-Trump show through pure sophistry.

01:56:53.000 Like when I can argue, I could argue anything.

01:56:58.000 And there's a difference between debate and sophistry, logic and sophistry.

01:57:02.000 So what we try to do on this show is I will tell you the truth based on what I know and sometimes I'm wrong.

01:57:08.000 What do the liberals do?

01:57:09.000 They omit information intentionally to win an argument.

01:57:12.000 Now, if I was going to go the liberal route, oh man, I'd be making 10 times as much money.

01:57:19.000 Democrats would be hiring me as a consultant, unscrupulous to the end.

01:57:24.000 Unfortunately, I have scruples and I won't do it.

01:57:28.000 It's unfortunate, but I said in this conversation earlier with some people, the evil people have an advantage.

01:57:35.000 They are willing to do things we are not willing to do.

01:57:38.000 It's being good is life on hard mode.

01:57:41.000 And if you even attempt to play their games or do what these liberal podcasters do, oh, you get called out every single time by your own audience.

01:57:51.000 Like, hey, don't clickbait me like that.

01:57:53.000 Don't, no, no, no, don't, don't do that.

01:57:55.000 Oh, right, on the right?

01:57:56.000 Yeah.

01:57:56.000 Oh, yeah.

01:57:57.000 Yeah.

01:57:57.000 So we can't even get away with that even if we wanted to.

01:58:00.000 So we would, we would literally have to be anti-Trump.

01:58:03.000 I'm saying, based on your premise, if you want to make more money.

01:58:06.000 Unfortunately.

01:58:07.000 All right.

01:58:08.000 We got Hroldian.

01:58:09.000 Is that how you say it?

01:58:10.000 I got this in front of Sheamus in Philly the night, but I wanted to get in front of Tim.

01:58:13.000 What are your thoughts on a federal law requiring proof of citizenship to buy or rent property?

01:58:16.000 With 80% of all leaves currently being self-deportations, I feel like this would bump the rookie numbers up, reduce demand, increase supply, and also prevent immigration issues and national security issues.

01:58:26.000 PRC buying land in the future.

01:58:29.000 Not proof of citizenship, but legal status.

01:58:32.000 So if you're a green card holder, tourist visas should not be allowed to rent property.

01:58:37.000 Or actually, to be fair, they should not be allowed to extend to enter into long-term leases.

01:58:41.000 So a tourist visa gives you, I think, 90 days.

01:58:45.000 Then there's work visas and temper, like a two-year residency.

01:58:51.000 There's like special talent visas and stuff like this.

01:58:55.000 Those are all lawful entrant visas for which you should be able to enter into rental agreements.

01:59:00.000 And it should be two-tiered.

01:59:04.000 If you're an immigrant here and you fraudulently enter into a lease or purchase agreement, you should get criminally charged, deported, and barred from the country.

01:59:14.000 If you are a landowner and you sell or lease knowingly to an illegal entrant, then you should be criminally charged commensurate with the scale.

01:59:26.000 So if you rented an apartment to a legal immigrant, misdemeanor charge, fine.

01:59:30.000 If you sell land of certain size, misdemeanor charge, land is forfeited, whatever, something like that could happen.

01:59:36.000 And I'm sure the government would love to do that.

01:59:38.000 But if you do like a very large deal, like a five, like a, you know, something, not like a bungalow, but maybe like a five-story, large million-dollar house or whatever, then you're entering felony territory for fraud and money laundering kind of stuff.

01:59:52.000 But I think we should totally do that.

01:59:53.000 And maybe if these, if someone's illegally here and they commit another crime in the U.S., that the person who's facilitating their stay could also be charged as an accomplice to the crime.

02:00:04.000 That would disincentivize these people from renting to illegal immigrants.

02:00:07.000 Indeed.

02:00:08.000 All right, my friends.

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02:01:48.000 You guys can go get some.

02:01:50.000 You have a new nickname from coming on the show.

02:01:52.000 What's that?

02:01:53.000 Jackhammer.

02:01:54.000 Oh, that's right.

02:01:54.000 Yes.

02:01:55.000 Talk about the jackhammer.

02:01:57.000 Stock baby.

02:01:58.000 Rard Michaels in the house.

02:01:59.000 Yeah, I love that.

02:02:00.000 Jackhammer is great.

02:02:01.000 I like the jackhammer, dude.

02:02:02.000 This thing's going to pulse a trillion times a second.

02:02:02.000 I love it.

02:02:05.000 Okay.

02:02:06.000 I can go real deep on that.

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02:02:11.000 Fridays are fun.

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02:02:26.000 Ian and I were jamming, and Ian played the freshman.

02:02:30.000 Oh, yeah, by the Verve Community.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 15, 2025

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