Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 07, 2026


TRUMP DECLARES IRAN WAR CEASFIRE | Timcast IRL


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00:02:59.000 Donald Trump has announced a ceasefire with Iran and preliminary reports suggest they have accepted a two week ceasefire.
00:03:07.000 The Strait of Hormuz will be open and peaceful for two weeks and already oil prices have dropped 15%.
00:03:15.000 Now we've got the 10 point plan from Iran, which they are saying is the basis for negotiations, which will begin on Friday.
00:03:23.000 And I gotta tell you, my friends, whatever you want to say, I am happy that we are backing away from nuclear annihilation, whatever it may be.
00:03:32.000 Now, I'm not going to play any stupid games and insult Donald Trump when he's doing what we want him to do and we don't want war to escalate.
00:03:39.000 Yet, for the life of me, I will just say this.
00:03:42.000 I am infuriated by the alleged Trump critics attacking the man for having called off the attack on Iran.
00:03:51.000 They are going after him and saying he's a coward and a chicken for not attacking Iran.
00:03:56.000 Yet, the whole time they attacked the man for attacking Iran.
00:03:59.000 So, which is it?
00:04:00.000 These people are grifters and they are liars.
00:04:03.000 They never actually cared.
00:04:04.000 They were saying what they said.
00:04:05.000 Thought they needed to say on the internet to get clicks and retweets.
00:04:08.000 And we're going to back that up because I am pissed off about this.
00:04:11.000 Listen, you guys know that I have been opposed to intervention and regime change.
00:04:15.000 That's basically my shtick.
00:04:16.000 And that's why I supported Tulsi Gabbard.
00:04:18.000 And I said, when Donald Trump started this war, it is not effective to insult the man when you're trying to convince him to do something you want him to do.
00:04:24.000 And you've got to be able to keep one hand on the steering wheel.
00:04:27.000 Yet people went crazy attacking Donald Trump and insulting him.
00:04:31.000 And I said, I respect the arguments, okay?
00:04:33.000 Because we want to try and keep things together.
00:04:35.000 But now that Donald Trump has done what these people have asked him to do, And backed off of attacking Iran and calling for a ceasefire, agreeing to it, they are still insulting the man.
00:04:46.000 No matter what he does, he is wrong.
00:04:48.000 And we will not be able to have a cohesive, functioning government with grifters on all sides lying about what they actually want to happen.
00:04:55.000 You can tell I'm pissed, but we have a lot to talk about.
00:04:58.000 Oil prices going down, things are starting to improve, and we need to encourage in every possible way this ceasefire to hold.
00:05:05.000 Now, of course, we have a bunch of other news related to this.
00:05:09.000 We now have, I can't believe I'm saying it, Candace Owens and AOC together at last, calling for the impeachment and removal of the Mad King.
00:05:16.000 How about that?
00:05:17.000 This is where we are as a country and grifting all the way down.
00:05:21.000 We're going to talk about that a lot more.
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00:08:43.000 Hello, everybody.
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00:08:44.000 Here's the news story, ladies and gentlemen.
00:08:46.000 It's tremendous.
00:08:47.000 Some say the best news oil prices plunge 15%.
00:08:51.000 Stock futures rally after Trump floats a two week Iran war ceasefire.
00:08:57.000 The price of crude oil fell below $100 per barrel, a stunning drop after it was trading as high as $117 earlier in the day.
00:09:05.000 We're hearing crypto is through the roof.
00:09:08.000 Everybody is happy.
00:09:09.000 I love it.
00:09:10.000 This is fantastic news.
00:09:11.000 Now, we've got reports that Iran is.
00:09:14.000 is accepting the initial two week ceasefire.
00:09:16.000 Negotiations will begin.
00:09:18.000 Check this out.
00:09:19.000 We've got this from Sayyid Abbas Arag, Aragshi.
00:09:23.000 I probably can't pronounce his name, name right on X. He's the foreign minister of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
00:09:28.000 So say it his accountant, 700 followers who follow him with this statement.
00:09:32.000 On behalf of the Islamic Republic of Iran, I express gratitude and appreciation for my dear brothers.
00:09:37.000 He, prime minister of Pakistan, Sharif, and what is, is he like something?
00:09:41.000 His excellency.
00:09:42.000 His excellency.
00:09:43.000 Uh, field marshal Munir for their tireless efforts to end the war in the region.
00:09:43.000 Thank you for that.
00:09:48.000 In response to the brotherly, brotherly request of PM Sharif in his tweet, And considering the request by the U.S. for negotiations based on its 15 point proposal, as well as the announcement by POTUS about acceptance of the general framework of Iran's 10 point proposal as a basis for negotiations, I hereby declare on behalf of Iran's Supreme National Security Council if attacks against Iran are halted, our powerful armed forces will cease their defensive operations.
00:10:13.000 For a period of two weeks, safe passage to the Strait of Hormuz will be possible by coordination with Iran's armed forces and with due consideration of technical limitations.
00:10:23.000 This Is tremendous.
00:10:25.000 It is exactly what you would expect to happen at the cessation of hostilities.
00:10:29.000 Neither side is going to come out and say we are losers and we've been defeated.
00:10:34.000 Both sides are going to say we have made tremendous accomplishments.
00:10:37.000 Now, Donald Trump has agreed to these terms.
00:10:40.000 We saw a tweet from the prime minister of Pakistan.
00:10:42.000 Iran has now announced they're agreeing to this.
00:10:44.000 We're going to see oil prices drop already.
00:10:46.000 They're dropping.
00:10:48.000 Fantastic news and a tremendous success for the Trump administration.
00:10:52.000 I'm going to tell you why.
00:10:53.000 And I'm going to tell you to ignore the naysayers and the grifters and the liars.
00:10:57.000 I am not happy about the incursion into Iran.
00:11:00.000 I did not vote for this.
00:11:01.000 I am not going to pretend that I support it.
00:11:03.000 But this is a victory for the Trump administration in that they took out the Ayatollah.
00:11:08.000 They took out the top echelon of Iranian government, and now they have a cessation of hostilities.
00:11:14.000 If this holds, Trump will have a moderate victory in the region, which will be good for his plans moving forward and Western sphere of influence control over the energy coming out of Iran.
00:11:27.000 Is it everything the Western powers might want?
00:11:30.000 I don't know.
00:11:31.000 But it's still a victory.
00:11:32.000 And I'm going to say it again.
00:11:33.000 Trump flattened and took out, killed their leadership.
00:11:38.000 And now hostilities are ceasing for the time being.
00:11:41.000 If we can finish this and get those negotiations through, Trump will have won.
00:11:47.000 Well, I mean, go ahead.
00:11:48.000 No, true.
00:11:50.000 I think we're better off now than we were before.
00:11:52.000 And already I'm hearing these sort of refrains that, oh, no, no, no, we're way worse.
00:11:56.000 No, we've actually decimated the IRCG.
00:11:59.000 And bear in mind, Hezbollah seems to be decapitated.
00:12:02.000 So we're already seeing their proxies, which to me, as an American and as somebody who is concerned about the region, that was what we were most impacted by, obviously Hezbollah, Hamas.
00:12:11.000 So if you're decapitating those proxies, that in and of itself, I think, is a huge victory.
00:12:16.000 And I was concerned because we do have a really horrible track record.
00:12:20.000 In the Middle East, of getting involved, staying there, and then not knowing how to extricate ourselves.
00:12:27.000 And I kept, I was like, I'm going to wait six weeks.
00:12:30.000 I'm going to wait six weeks.
00:12:32.000 Let's see how this goes.
00:12:32.000 I was a little worried, right?
00:12:34.000 Because, you know, the military is out of this world insane, but sometimes we don't have the foreign policy strategy.
00:12:40.000 So sometimes we really haven't had any strategy in the Middle East.
00:12:45.000 So I was worried.
00:12:46.000 And now we're extricating ourselves.
00:12:47.000 I think Americans are a lot safer as a result.
00:12:50.000 And we're getting our boys and girls out of there.
00:12:52.000 Thank God.
00:12:53.000 I mean, look, if this actually does wrap up the war, then I think that's a good thing.
00:12:59.000 I would like to see.
00:13:00.000 I was never like, we need to go and strike Iran.
00:13:03.000 I was always kind of like, look, I don't want to.
00:13:05.000 I do want to see the best possible outcome for the United States because I'm always pro America.
00:13:10.000 But if this is the off road that prevents boots on the ground and some kind of major invasion, then I'm okay with it.
00:13:20.000 I got no problem saying I was wrong about boots on the ground if Trump succeeds, and I will apologize.
00:13:26.000 I will apologize with the utmost gratitude if it does not happen for insinuating that it could.
00:13:32.000 We've got a two week ceasefire, and hopefully this weekend they announce something longer and more permanent.
00:13:38.000 And then I will, with a smile on my face, laugh as I say I was wrong about this.
00:13:43.000 This is good news.
00:13:44.000 This is fantastic news.
00:13:45.000 We should all be happy.
00:13:46.000 And more importantly, for those asking, okay, what does this really mean for me?
00:13:50.000 It means your gas prices are going down.
00:13:51.000 Okay, so that was my main question.
00:13:53.000 You said you think we're better off now than we were before.
00:13:55.000 So I guess technically that counts on if gas prices come down because, you know, Respect to what you were saying about Hezbollah and terrorism in the Middle East, is the average everyday American isn't necessarily thinking about foreign terrorist threats.
00:14:09.000 What they're looking at is how it's affecting their wallet right now.
00:14:12.000 And the joke, I guess, you know, stark humorous it is, is like the idea of Trump being the bull in the China shop made sense to me when you could get gas prices down and potentially arrest bad political actors that have committed crimes within your own government.
00:14:27.000 But once we started going to war again in the Middle East, you're like, look, I don't know if all that much has changed.
00:14:32.000 So, yes, gas prices do need to come back down.
00:14:35.000 Otherwise, people look at the midterms already.
00:14:37.000 This has been damaging for them as far as the midterms because for a lot of people, it seems like we're looking at a lot more of the same, despite the fact that we were kind of sold the idea that things were going to be different this time around.
00:14:47.000 And look, you got to give them time.
00:14:49.000 Obviously, the gas prices aren't going to come down overnight.
00:14:51.000 But when gas prices go up, that also means that the prices of other goods go up.
00:14:55.000 Bitcoin, before you said that it was rebounding today, had kind of stagnated and was dropping.
00:15:01.000 Bro, $6 diesel.
00:15:02.000 Yeah, down the street, we're in the middle, and we're in a rural area.
00:15:05.000 Six dollar diesel that means everything's going through the roof.
00:15:08.000 Yeah, your milk, your bread, your eggs.
00:15:10.000 So, this is we everyone should be very happy.
00:15:12.000 And I'll tell you, if people were sincere about their criticisms of Trump, they would be saying, Thank you, Donald Trump, for this.
00:15:18.000 Thank you for doing the right thing, or at the very least, like waiting to see how it shakes out in the next couple of days to see if things actually do start looking like they're making changes.
00:15:26.000 Yeah, it's fair to be cautiously optimistic.
00:15:28.000 I think with the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a couple things on that.
00:15:32.000 I mean, the fact that the Iranians were able to close it in this way.
00:15:36.000 Is a sign that they could have and would have at any moment.
00:15:38.000 So I think if we're able to resolve that.
00:15:42.000 That's a good and a positive thing because that was always their point of leverage.
00:15:46.000 I also think gas prices right now are kind of where they were under Biden, even with all of this pressure.
00:15:51.000 It's interesting the Red Sea, we kind of forget this.
00:15:53.000 The Hooties basically had the Red Sea and under lock and key for like almost a year.
00:15:58.000 There was so much delay shipping through that.
00:16:01.000 So, this, the Strait of Hormuz has only been delayed a couple weeks.
00:16:04.000 And now that it's open, we're going to see it back to normal very quickly.
00:16:09.000 This isn't, I feel like I've heard so many people say, oh, this is going to be.
00:16:12.000 A year to get back to where we were.
00:16:13.000 No, it's not.
00:16:14.000 It's going to be a couple of weeks.
00:16:15.000 I want to stress this point, guys.
00:16:16.000 We covered on this show the Houthi rebels bombing cargo ships in the Red Sea.
00:16:21.000 Civilian cargo ships, not involved in war.
00:16:24.000 It's literally companies being like, we made some stools to sell for bars.
00:16:28.000 And they're like, we're going to blow them up because you're off that.
00:16:31.000 You're an offense to our religious fervor and the goals that we have.
00:16:35.000 And they got all their money from where?
00:16:37.000 From Iran.
00:16:39.000 They were armed and funded and supplied.
00:16:40.000 And it's not just there, Iraq as well.
00:16:42.000 So the U.S. has had a bone to pick with Iran.
00:16:46.000 Flattening their leadership.
00:16:48.000 I'm sorry, if the hostilities stop and everyone says if prices went to normal, the US won, Trump won.
00:16:56.000 They took out the Iranian government.
00:16:56.000 100%.
00:16:58.000 Bear in mind, yeah, normal under Trump is a hell of a lot better than it was under Biden.
00:17:03.000 So, you know, what's funny is with Venezuela too, I was initially very concerned because you take out Maduro, you open up a vacuum.
00:17:11.000 Is some strong man going to come in?
00:17:12.000 But that's held.
00:17:14.000 And the issue with Venezuela is.
00:17:16.000 Maduro stole our oil assets.
00:17:18.000 I will scream this to the high heavens.
00:17:19.000 In 2009, our oil companies had their assets all stolen.
00:17:22.000 We had a treaty.
00:17:23.000 We played fair.
00:17:24.000 The U.S. was not some evil, oppressive colonizer who went to Venezuela and took everything.
00:17:28.000 We went there and said, We'll pay for the oil infrastructure.
00:17:30.000 We'll do it, and you'll get free money.
00:17:31.000 And then they stole it from us.
00:17:33.000 Trump went in, got Maduro out, and now we've gotten back our oil infrastructure.
00:17:38.000 And that is justice.
00:17:40.000 And we did not get instability.
00:17:42.000 And I am hoping that holds, but it looks pretty dang good.
00:17:45.000 So Trump has done a fairly good job on foreign policy across the board.
00:17:49.000 My biggest fears with Iran.
00:17:50.000 Where the, it appeared, escalation was underway with Trump saying, I'm going to wipe out a civilization.
00:17:56.000 It's terrifying.
00:17:58.000 Now we have an announcement of a ceasefire and both sides are agreeing to negotiate.
00:18:01.000 Trump might get out of this one once again with a victory.
00:18:04.000 So, what does it look like long term for him, given that the midterms are coming and people are talking about like if we end up losing House and Senate, they're going to look at impeachments again.
00:18:14.000 Oh, fair.
00:18:15.000 Slow down progress again.
00:18:16.000 Yep.
00:18:17.000 Look, I'm still of the opinion that if the economy is doing well, The Republicans can win.
00:18:23.000 And again, I. Both House and Senate?
00:18:25.000 But this is, I have to, I have this caveat that is not making a prediction that they will.
00:18:25.000 Yeah.
00:18:30.000 That is saying that it's possible.
00:18:32.000 Except the net favorability for party, the GOP is up five points.
00:18:40.000 Democrats have a historic low for a midterm lead, even with their lead.
00:18:44.000 So, trend wise, for special elections, it looks very good for Democrats.
00:18:49.000 Historic polling as of right now, it actually looks very bad for Democrats.
00:18:54.000 And that's surprising to me.
00:18:55.000 Again, CNN said, GOP net favorability is up five points, and Democrats, the generic ballot for Congress, is only up five points, which is a historic low.
00:19:05.000 And the prediction markets are still saying Democrats are going to take the House.
00:19:08.000 I think I'd figure it would have been at least two to one, not four to one.
00:19:11.000 Like right now, it's four to one Democrats to win.
00:19:14.000 I'd be like, two to one's fine because what?
00:19:17.000 They might win three or four seats in the majority.
00:19:20.000 But Republicans can turn this one around.
00:19:23.000 This is going to be a major component of this.
00:19:26.000 If Trump walks away with a new peace agreement, and then we get a Straight up, we have secured the region.
00:19:33.000 We have ended the violence from the militia groups, the rebels, and Iran has now agreed to the terms of a ceasefire.
00:19:39.000 That's going to be a major boost for him.
00:19:42.000 Yeah, I mean, it could be.
00:19:44.000 I do think that the Democrats are, or I mean, I'm aware that Democrats are historically unpopular.
00:19:50.000 I think that that's largely because of the fight between the progressives in the Democrat Party and the what you consider sane, normal Democrats.
00:19:57.000 Are the moderates or the same people in the Democrat Party?
00:19:59.000 Well, the problem is you can't really tell.
00:20:02.000 And I think that's part of why they're unpopular.
00:20:03.000 I can't think of one person who is being annoyed.
00:20:05.000 But the point that I'm making is like, even if they run as a moderate, they'll do what Spanberger did or whatever if they get elected.
00:20:12.000 And I think that the American people generally know that.
00:20:14.000 Like, I think that people saw through Gavin Newsom going on all the podcasts and talking to the pod bros and being like, oh, you know, going on Sean Ryan and be like, I own a gun and I'm a gun god BS, you are.
00:20:25.000 Like, Tim Waltz.
00:20:26.000 I'm a real fan.
00:20:26.000 Yeah, you know, you know, oh, it's like, you know, or Kamala Harris.
00:20:30.000 Oh, yeah, I own a Glock.
00:20:31.000 Yeah, sure you do.
00:20:32.000 But the fact of the matter is, I think the American people really know where the Democrat parties, like, where their minds are.
00:20:40.000 And they haven't forgot about all the woke stuff.
00:20:42.000 Even though woke is like, right now it's kind of like, It hasn't gone anywhere.
00:20:48.000 If the Democrats come back, I think most people are aware that that's coming back as well.
00:20:52.000 And I think you can look at Virginia as evidence of that.
00:20:55.000 Spanberger ran as a centrist.
00:20:57.000 She was supposed to be, she was worried about the cost of everything.
00:21:01.000 And then when she gets into office, there's like 20 new taxes that Virginians have to worry about.
00:21:06.000 Guns are illegal now.
00:21:07.000 Yeah, there's all that stuff.
00:21:08.000 Who was the guy who was running for DA who said that he wanted Lay Jones?
00:21:12.000 He also tried to kick a dog, which is the weirdest thing.
00:21:15.000 That video is crazy.
00:21:16.000 He tried to kick a little dog.
00:21:16.000 Anyone?
00:21:18.000 Kicking animals has the worst karma.
00:21:20.000 Thank God.
00:21:21.000 I'm thinking of Christy Gnome.
00:21:21.000 I'm thinking of him.
00:21:23.000 It wasn't.
00:21:24.000 It is not okay to abuse animals and it will come back to bite you.
00:21:27.000 And I hope this is also true of Hassan Piker, who shocks his dog.
00:21:31.000 What the hell?
00:21:32.000 It wasn't even like he was like aiming.
00:21:34.000 It looked like it was just second nature to him to just kick animals.
00:21:37.000 He took the dog and jumped out of the way.
00:21:39.000 Like his leg just did it without him trying to do it.
00:21:41.000 Like several on the way to walk that day.
00:21:42.000 That's a beautiful reminder about Democrats not being sane.
00:21:47.000 One thing that I think has been a good and a positive thing out of this war is we have seen the left truly like root for.
00:21:55.000 Iran.
00:21:55.000 Like, we have seen the insanity of like people marching in Paris in the middle of New York City.
00:22:01.000 There are like pro, like, I think normal people see that and they're like, oh, what the hell?
00:22:06.000 Like, this is kind of insane.
00:22:08.000 Anyone who supports this supports Iran.
00:22:10.000 That's a wake up call.
00:22:11.000 Let's jump to the next part of the story.
00:22:13.000 We've got this tweet from our good friend Brian Krasenstein.
00:22:16.000 He says, breaking, happy Taco Tuesday.
00:22:18.000 Told you so.
00:22:19.000 I'm glad.
00:22:20.000 Taco Tuesday means Trump always chickens out.
00:22:23.000 And I'm going to show you some of this.
00:22:25.000 We've got actual friend of the show, Sagar and Jetty.
00:22:28.000 Taco Tuesday, it is pending Iranian approval.
00:22:31.000 We've got Chris Martinson, also who has appeared on this show, posting a picture of a taco.
00:22:37.000 And we've got AF Post, after promising to destroy Iran, Trump agrees to a taco Tuesday two week ceasefire.
00:22:44.000 And then, of course, just a spattering of all the stupid taco posts.
00:22:49.000 Let me tell you what this means.
00:22:51.000 These people who claim to be anti Trump, well, they are anti Trump, but the people who claim to oppose the war with Iran, who are angry that Donald Trump threatened Iran, went to war in Iran, Are now attacking him as a chicken for doing what they asked him to do.
00:23:10.000 Of course.
00:23:10.000 These people are grifters.
00:23:12.000 They are liars.
00:23:13.000 They are fanning the flames of destruction and World War III, and they should be called out for this.
00:23:19.000 And I'm going to say this of everybody the Krasensteins I get, but Sagar, why are you joining in on this?
00:23:25.000 The appropriate and rational response is thank you, Mr. President, for not getting us into nuclear war.
00:23:32.000 Thank you, Mr. President.
00:23:34.000 For agreeing to the terms of a ceasefire and beginning these negotiations.
00:23:38.000 If you don't like the man, that's fine.
00:23:40.000 But the idea that all of these people all of a sudden just came out now and are saying Trump's a chicken, what do you want him to do?
00:23:46.000 You want him to bomb Iran now?
00:23:47.000 I'll tell you what.
00:23:49.000 Let me ask you a question.
00:23:50.000 When there's a little kid and he's going to jump off like a 20 foot quarry into the water, what do you say to him when he says, I don't want to do it?
00:24:00.000 What do you call him?
00:24:02.000 You say, You're a chicken?
00:24:03.000 Chicken?
00:24:04.000 Come on, chicken.
00:24:05.000 This is them goading Trump.
00:24:07.000 To attack Iran.
00:24:09.000 I don't, for the life of me, understand what is wrong with these people.
00:24:13.000 When Trump says, I am not going to attack Iran, you say, Wow, that is incredibly brave of you.
00:24:19.000 The Iranians could break the terms of this at any moment and it would be bad for your legacy, but you are taking the right step.
00:24:25.000 Thank you for doing the right thing.
00:24:26.000 I can't stand these people.
00:24:27.000 They're hypocrites, liars, and grifters.
00:24:29.000 There's so many people that are now saying things like, Oh, Iran won the war, Iran won the war.
00:24:33.000 And it's like, Look, man, these people were going to say that no matter what because they are actually.
00:24:38.000 Anti American.
00:24:40.000 Even people on the right that say that.
00:24:41.000 Yeah, reposting like Iranian propaganda.
00:24:43.000 Like that's where some people clearly are getting their news is literally from Iranian propaganda.
00:24:48.000 Joe Kent following this, I will say this.
00:24:50.000 I do believe that we may see Tucker Carlson come out and say, Thank you, Mr. President.
00:24:56.000 Because Tucker has been particularly measured in how he's approached these things.
00:25:00.000 He's a smart guy and he understands how to communicate his opinions effectively without, well, let's say he is a bit controversial as of recent, but I think he'll do the smart thing.
00:25:08.000 Now, Joe Kent didn't come out.
00:25:11.000 In the most aggressive and insulting of manners.
00:25:14.000 But his response to the ceasefire was now we must restrain Israel.
00:25:19.000 Is your intention to antagonize Israel right now?
00:25:22.000 Because they're trigger happy.
00:25:24.000 This is irresponsible for him to make a statement like this.
00:25:27.000 I'm just, I'm sick of the people who can't just back off, say, guys, the rickety bridge could collapse at any moment.
00:25:33.000 Shut your mouths and let them negotiate a ceasefire.
00:25:38.000 Instead, they're like, what do you think a person's reaction is going to be if someone said, you need to be restrained?
00:25:44.000 They're going to be like, what you say to me?
00:25:46.000 You want to go?
00:25:47.000 Who do you think you are telling me you're going to put a leash on me?
00:25:50.000 They're intentionally challenging and insulting Trump and Israel at a time when we're trying to get them to back off.
00:25:56.000 I think it underscores the fact that so much of this rhetoric is just that.
00:26:01.000 People are just posting shit and saying shit.
00:26:03.000 They don't actually think, like all of the people yesterday who were like, oh, Trump is going to destroy a civilization.
00:26:07.000 They didn't actually believe.
00:26:09.000 Not one of them believed.
00:26:09.000 No, not once.
00:26:10.000 No one really, all of the panicans did not genuinely think that Trump was going to destroy the entirety of Iran.
00:26:17.000 No one believed that.
00:26:18.000 And so now that they're saying, it's like, of course, like they're just.
00:26:22.000 My mentions were an absolute train wreck all day of people saying, oh, blah, blah, blah, Trump's going to destroy it.
00:26:27.000 He said he's going to destroy the civilization, blah, And I'm just like, do you people really believe that he's going to use nuclear weapons?
00:26:34.000 And there were people that were like, you'll see, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:26:36.000 And I'm like, how could you possibly believe that?
00:26:39.000 You're all so ridiculous.
00:26:40.000 I tweeted, Trump has two choices.
00:26:42.000 Iran's not going to back down, it's annihilation or it's retreat.
00:26:46.000 I said, Trump is going to find a strategic retreat that is the safest and best play for him to make.
00:26:51.000 And I got responses from these people being like, You've been wrong the whole time.
00:26:55.000 You said Trump wouldn't go to war with Iran.
00:26:57.000 You're wrong now.
00:26:58.000 And I wasn't.
00:27:00.000 Yeah, but the underscore there is that Trump gets himself into trouble with the way he tweets a lot of the time.
00:27:05.000 It's just true.
00:27:06.000 For them, not that you should operate under the premise that you need to make the bad actors happy, but he does it to himself.
00:27:14.000 The administration does this with their messaging around ICE, with the hype videos of people getting arrested and stuff like that.
00:27:21.000 It's red meat for the base, but it turns off the people who are somewhere in the middle.
00:27:25.000 And the people who are upset right now are the ones that are in the middle.
00:27:28.000 Voted for Trump reluctantly.
00:27:31.000 Take a look at this.
00:27:31.000 This is the next component of the story.
00:27:33.000 Ryan Grimm says, This is unbelievable.
00:27:36.000 The edit history on this tweet shows that Pakistan Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif originally copied and pasted everything he was sent.
00:27:42.000 So let me first show you his statement.
00:27:44.000 His statement is Diplomatic efforts for peaceful settlement of the ongoing war in the Middle East are progressing steadily, strongly, and powerfully, with the potential to lead to substantive results in the near future.
00:27:53.000 To allow diplomacy to run its course, I earnestly request President Trump to extend the deadline for two weeks.
00:27:58.000 Pakistan, in all sincerity, requests the Iranian brothers to open the Strait of Hormuz for a corresponding period of two weeks.
00:28:03.000 As a goodwill gesture, we also urge all warring parties to observe a ceasefire everywhere for two weeks to allow diplomacy to achieve conclusive termination of war in the interest of long term peace and stability in the region.
00:28:13.000 However, at the top of this message, it says draft Pakistan's PM message on X.
00:28:19.000 The implication that they're making Ryan Grimm says obviously Sharif's own staff don't call him Pakistan's PM.
00:28:26.000 They would just call him prime minister.
00:28:28.000 The U.S. and Israel, of course, would call him Pakistan's PM.
00:28:31.000 Would be funny if the fate of the world wasn't hanging in the balance.
00:28:35.000 What they are trying to insinuate right now is that Pakistan did not actually agree to make this happen, that the U.S. and Israel made the prime minister of Pakistan issue this statement, all because he had a draft statement referring to Pakistan's PM.
00:28:51.000 I will first say, I don't care.
00:28:54.000 A ceasefire is good.
00:28:56.000 Why are you guys trying to stop this from happening?
00:28:59.000 Honest question The people who don't like Trump and claim they don't want a war with Iran are doing everything in their power to make sure the ceasefire fails.
00:29:07.000 Why?
00:29:09.000 Well, I mean, secretly pro Israel the whole time.
00:29:11.000 I mean, Candace has been pro Israel her whole career, and all of a sudden she's not.
00:29:14.000 So, I mean, she is.
00:29:16.000 Look, the meta for getting internet clicks and getting internet money right now is to be anti Israel.
00:29:22.000 So, that's why I think there's a ton of people that have jumped on the anti Israel train just because they're like, look, it's popular.
00:29:27.000 Young people don't like Israel, or they're either ambivalent or very critical of Israel.
00:29:32.000 The best way to get internet clicks and basically get money is to be critical of Israel.
00:29:37.000 And I think there's a ton of people that are doing this just to cash in.
00:29:42.000 There are people, obviously, that are.
00:29:44.000 That are critical.
00:29:45.000 But the fact that they talk about Israel all the time.
00:29:47.000 It's so simplistic to blame one teeny tiny country for all of the world's woes.
00:29:53.000 I mean, when you look at the map of how teeny it is and the map, and you juxtapose that with like the Islamic controlled territory all through the Middle East, and you're like, really?
00:30:03.000 That's what you're going to focus on this year.
00:30:03.000 That's true.
00:30:05.000 But not only that, like the argument that they're making is that the United States doesn't have agency at all, right?
00:30:09.000 The United States, because the argument they make is that we are a client state of Israel, not the other way around.
00:30:15.000 That's because they are retarded.
00:30:17.000 Yes, I know.
00:30:17.000 I agree.
00:30:18.000 You did just get kind of angry.
00:30:19.000 And that's my principal argument.
00:30:21.000 So when you're like Tim Pool's argument, you're retarded.
00:30:23.000 Yes, that's it.
00:30:24.000 That's the only point I have to make.
00:30:25.000 You are a retard.
00:30:26.000 No, I'll give you an actual argument.
00:30:28.000 It's that when I ask all of these people, what are Israel's interests in the Panama Canal?
00:30:32.000 They go, I don't know.
00:30:33.000 What's Israel's interests in Greenland?
00:30:35.000 I don't know.
00:30:36.000 What's Israel's interests in Taiwan?
00:30:38.000 I don't know.
00:30:38.000 Well, it sounds like Israel doesn't have interests there.
00:30:41.000 And Israel's interests are in the Middle East, which just so happens a component of our foreign policy is as well.
00:30:45.000 So it seems like they're an ally of ours in the Middle East.
00:30:48.000 So, yeah, when it comes to the Middle East, we work with them.
00:30:51.000 It's also insane that all of the people who are saying that Trump doesn't have any allies and he doesn't know how to work with other countries, then they're the ones who are saying, oh, well, we're just listening to it.
00:31:00.000 It's like, well, do you want us to work with other countries?
00:31:02.000 Do you want us to have allies in the region?
00:31:04.000 Or then are you just going to blame Israel for everything and that we just are a subject to them?
00:31:09.000 I will say, I'm like really impressed.
00:31:11.000 They think the Jews are like, Like an alien occupying force that has superpowers.
00:31:17.000 I'm not, I'm trying to figure out how to phrase this properly.
00:31:19.000 God's chosen people, they're special.
00:31:22.000 The argument from a lot of these people is that Jews are just smarter, faster, stronger, and better than them.
00:31:26.000 And I'm just, but I'm not trying to exaggerate or be derisive.
00:31:29.000 It's like they've taken over our country.
00:31:32.000 How?
00:31:33.000 Like with what?
00:31:34.000 We have a substantially larger national budget and global infrastructure.
00:31:38.000 You're telling me that you can't find a way?
00:31:40.000 Like, I don't understand what the point, what your argument is.
00:31:42.000 Raise your game.
00:31:43.000 Yeah.
00:31:44.000 Well, I mean, that's the argument.
00:31:45.000 That is being made is like it's like when they talk, it's like when somebody's in Black Lives Matter wants to blame white people for all of their ills, right?
00:31:53.000 It's like at the end of the day, even if all of that is true, it's still your responsibility to make right with your own life and figure things out.
00:31:59.000 I'm going to let you guys in on the secret.
00:32:01.000 I know who actually runs everything.
00:32:02.000 Who's that?
00:32:03.000 The South Koreans.
00:32:05.000 Yep.
00:32:05.000 Did you know that their economy is entirely Samsung?
00:32:08.000 That's it.
00:32:09.000 Like everything they have, it's just basically Samsung.
00:32:11.000 Like what is it like?
00:32:12.000 8% of their workforce is just working at Samsung.
00:32:14.000 So that's where all those exploding ovens are coming from.
00:32:17.000 You know?
00:32:17.000 So the ovens are the same.
00:32:19.000 Well, it's where they make.
00:32:20.000 The exploding electronics come from Israel.
00:32:23.000 No, no, no.
00:32:24.000 South Korea, they make the lav mics that have cartridges in them that can blast inward.
00:32:29.000 Gosh, that was a joke.
00:32:31.000 That was a joke.
00:32:32.000 No, I'm kidding.
00:32:33.000 But, you know, if you think about it, one could make the argument that we've spent billions of dollars on South Korea.
00:32:38.000 We've built missile defense systems for South Korea.
00:32:40.000 We've given, what, 30,000 or some odd troops that we have stationed in South Korea.
00:32:44.000 Sounds like we are serving the people of South Korea for some reason.
00:32:47.000 I don't know why.
00:32:48.000 Or one could make the argument that we serve Ukraine's interests because we've given them more money in three years and we've given it to Israel in 70.
00:32:54.000 And their prime minister actually came to our Congress where they all waved his flag and got our country behind his war.
00:33:01.000 How amazing.
00:33:02.000 And they added it to their Instagram and Twitter bio, too.
00:33:05.000 Added the Ukrainian flag to their Twitter bio.
00:33:05.000 And what?
00:33:07.000 That's true.
00:33:07.000 That's true.
00:33:08.000 And they executed an American journalist in Ukraine.
00:33:12.000 They killed Gonzalo Lira.
00:33:14.000 So, look, I think it's stupid to play these games.
00:33:17.000 But I will just say this if you want to criticize Israel, you're allowed to do it.
00:33:20.000 You were always allowed to do it.
00:33:21.000 Please do so and continue to do so because your criticisms are, that's your opinion.
00:33:24.000 You're an American citizen.
00:33:25.000 You do what you want.
00:33:26.000 But the people that are actively trying to dissolve this ceasefire before it even began, psychopaths.
00:33:33.000 The people on the left and the right that are attacking Trump and calling him a chicken, what are you trying to do?
00:33:38.000 Prod him into bombing Iran?
00:33:39.000 Are you nuts?
00:33:41.000 These people are scumbags.
00:33:42.000 I don't think, though, look, I don't think Trump is doing any of this.
00:33:46.000 Based on popularity or what he's being talked into.
00:33:50.000 Because if you look at the numbers, it's never popular to wage war.
00:33:53.000 Certainly would not be popular to put boots on the ground.
00:33:55.000 I think he knew that going into this.
00:33:58.000 And that's why, from my vantage point, I think he did it because he truly believed that Iran was an imminent nuclear threat to us.
00:34:05.000 Because there really is no discernible benefit to him politically, financially, any other way.
00:34:11.000 Like, it's not like he gets something out of this.
00:34:14.000 I think he did it because he wanted to make the world.
00:34:17.000 A safer place, even if there were some political costs in the short term.
00:34:21.000 So, like, but that was what the bunker busters were for.
00:34:23.000 Was that last year now?
00:34:26.000 Right?
00:34:26.000 Yeah, it was June.
00:34:27.000 Okay, so that was to set back the Iranian nuclear program.
00:34:31.000 Another, you know, we're always setting it back 20 years, right?
00:34:34.000 That's, that's right.
00:34:34.000 No, I know, yeah.
00:34:35.000 We're weeks away, days away.
00:34:37.000 Yeah.
00:34:37.000 That's, that's the point, right?
00:34:38.000 Is people, people hear that.
00:34:39.000 And, and this, I was watching, Tim, did you ever watch Terminalist Dark Wolf?
00:34:43.000 Yeah.
00:34:43.000 The point is, it's about peace deals in Iran, in America, in Israel.
00:34:48.000 Back in 2015.
00:34:49.000 And so, for a lot of people, it's all about the song remains the same.
00:34:52.000 It feels like the same thing over and over again.
00:34:54.000 And to your point earlier about the people who are posting about this, when politics becomes sport and something that you post about online as a running, you know, whether whatever your theme is, whether it's Joe Kent in Israel, whether it's Tucker Carlson in Israel, whether if you're on the other side of the aisle and you want to hold Iran responsible, what you're seeing right now is the cost of everyone turning, first of all, it's monetized.
00:35:18.000 So, if you're posting on X and you're monetized and there's In financial incentive to do so, it is not prudent to take a ton of your advice or your news from people who are financially benefiting from the most sensational headline they can get.
00:35:33.000 Look at what the Daily Beast wrote MAGA Pod Bro predicts crushing Trump humiliation.
00:35:37.000 It says taco time in there too.
00:35:39.000 It does.
00:35:39.000 And I never said this.
00:35:41.000 Oh, you're MAGA Pod Bro?
00:35:43.000 That's me.
00:35:43.000 That's me.
00:35:44.000 Look at that.
00:35:45.000 Tim Pool.
00:35:45.000 I said Trump's safest play is off ramp and declare victory.
00:35:49.000 Iran is driven by ideology, is not going to back down, leaving Trump with two options total annihilation or retreat.
00:35:54.000 Both will be bad, but retreat is the safer and easier option.
00:35:57.000 Trump will likely back down.
00:35:58.000 That was not an insult to Donald Trump.
00:36:01.000 That was not a request for one of the two options.
00:36:04.000 The effing lunatics on X. I'm going to tell you guys, I have never been more anti free speech than I am right now from the people who are trying to make World War III happen.
00:36:14.000 Trump gets a ceasefire, and they're like, You're a chicken, Trump.
00:36:17.000 You're a chicken.
00:36:18.000 It's like, Stop, shut the fuck up.
00:36:21.000 And there have been a series of posts where Tucker Carlson says that.
00:36:26.000 That there is an effort to like have a new economic order and bring China into the fold.
00:36:32.000 And I stated a fact the liberal economic order is waning and a new Chinese communist, you know, is rising.
00:36:39.000 And I get all these MAGA bros being like, Tim wants China to win.
00:36:42.000 And I'm like, I'm literally just saying what is happening.
00:36:46.000 Same thing here.
00:36:47.000 This is what we live right now.
00:36:48.000 This is our politics.
00:36:49.000 The Daily Beast says Tim Pool predicts Trump humiliation.
00:36:53.000 No, I said Trump's going to weigh the options and he's going to take the safer approach.
00:36:56.000 He's going to declare a victory.
00:36:57.000 He's going to pull back.
00:36:58.000 And that's exactly what we're seeing.
00:36:59.000 And it's a good thing.
00:37:01.000 But they have to frame it always in the most insane of ways to make sure everybody is at each other's throats like maniacs.
00:37:09.000 This is a direct result for the political landscape becoming what it is under Trump, right?
00:37:14.000 Which is that it's funny that you mention, like, Trump's foreign policy and American foreign policy.
00:37:18.000 Like, we're having the most foreign policy wins in his first term, right?
00:37:23.000 The most foreign policy wins that doesn't involve just surrendering and giving other countries money under the guy who is the most bombastic with his dialogue.
00:37:31.000 Whereas in prior administrations, they're very polite when they tweet, they're very polite when they give their speeches, but you end up surrendering, giving money, leaving hostages behind.
00:37:39.000 Now they frame the American government.
00:37:41.000 destroys a bunch of their equipment to just to save one soldier and the people are framing it as a bad thing that we lost a bunch of equipment all to go back and save one person when that is objectively what makes America great.
00:37:54.000 I, you know, I look at everything that's going on and I'm like, I think they really just want to burn down America.
00:37:58.000 Because if you, if you, if I know Phil's about to just say yes.
00:38:01.000 But the reason, the reason that they want to burn down America is because they don't like the, a lot of the, at least the right wing libertarians that are like this, they don't want to see the United States be the unipolar power.
00:38:12.000 They want to see an End to the petrodollar.
00:38:14.000 They want to see the United States.
00:38:15.000 They want China to take over.
00:38:16.000 Well, that's the thing.
00:38:18.000 They say that it wouldn't.
00:38:19.000 They're like, no, well, China doesn't have those ambitions.
00:38:21.000 Now, I totally disagree.
00:38:22.000 The Belt and Road Initiative.
00:38:23.000 I completely agree.
00:38:24.000 And that's, again, the libertarians' take on foreign policy is one of the big reasons why I'm not a libertarian anymore because I think it's a fantasy.
00:38:32.000 But they would say, look, China doesn't have these goals.
00:38:36.000 Russia doesn't have these goals.
00:38:38.000 The reason that Russia invaded Ukraine was because the U.S. was meddling and blah, blah, blah.
00:38:42.000 Essentially, they blame everything on the U.S. Ever since the term blowback.
00:38:47.000 Got into the libertarian mind.
00:38:48.000 They're like, everything's the United States' fault.
00:38:50.000 Everything is the United States' fault.
00:38:52.000 And so they're like, the US should close all the bases, stop being the world police, and we should just retract to our own continent and be here in the US and trade with everybody, which sounds great, but it actually doesn't work in reality.
00:39:06.000 Is that shirt unironic?
00:39:08.000 Well, tonight.
00:39:11.000 Like an incredible amount of naivete in the US.
00:39:16.000 I think there's a lot of people who looked at Obama and they're like, oh, he's so nice.
00:39:19.000 And he just says these wonderful words and everyone likes him.
00:39:22.000 And isn't that fabulous?
00:39:23.000 And paid no attention to the action of literally leaving our people in Benghazi to get slaughtered, which is disgusting.
00:39:29.000 You juxtapose that with the fact that Trump may have some crazy rhetoric, but then he saves people.
00:39:35.000 But I just don't think people understand how evil and horrible the world is.
00:39:41.000 And I don't think kids are taught history.
00:39:43.000 So, they don't understand that the vast majority of people have lived in completely barbaric times.
00:39:48.000 And what we have right now is so special and unique.
00:39:51.000 And the vast majority of the world wants to cut us down.
00:39:53.000 I don't think that we understand the evils of China, of Iran.
00:39:57.000 We only in America, the media is obsessed with how horrible America is.
00:40:01.000 We talk about war crimes.
00:40:02.000 It's been all about the potential hypothetical war crimes that the U.S. might commit, nothing about how evil and horrible Iran is.
00:40:09.000 Look, that's a point that Tim makes here a lot.
00:40:13.000 Like the United States, regardless of what you think about the United States, The United States is objectively the most measured and the most benevolent global power ever in human history.
00:40:28.000 Do you think the Mongols, if they had aircraft carriers, do you think the Mongols would have made it a Soviet Union?
00:40:36.000 Yeah, the Russians were not in any way a chill kind of group of people.
00:40:43.000 In all of human history, there has never been a country with as much power.
00:40:49.000 As the United States military has.
00:40:50.000 And there has never been a country that has given away as much money as the United States does.
00:40:57.000 And so to say that the United States is anything other than the most benevolent world power in human history is farcical.
00:41:04.000 But they will still say, oh, you know, you with that.
00:41:07.000 That story I told last week of the homeless guy, quick version I was 16.
00:41:10.000 I gave a homeless guy money.
00:41:11.000 He kept asking for more.
00:41:12.000 Then he insulted me because I didn't buy him cigarettes.
00:41:15.000 Then he asked for cash on the way out.
00:41:17.000 And I said, I thought you were cool, man.
00:41:19.000 Like, that's the attitude of communists and the rest of the world.
00:41:22.000 The United States is like, We're going to ensure safe travels.
00:41:25.000 We're going to stop the pirates.
00:41:26.000 We're going to have safe oceans.
00:41:28.000 We are going to give you free money for your stupid programs.
00:41:31.000 And we're going to provide for your defense.
00:41:33.000 And they go, screw you, man.
00:41:35.000 Like, look at what NATO's doing right now.
00:41:38.000 Trump's critique of NATO has been correct the whole time when he says, we've been giving them our military and spending money on it.
00:41:43.000 And they're not putting their GDP in it the way they're supposed to.
00:41:46.000 And we're supposed to sit here and say, we'll pay your security for free.
00:41:50.000 I mean, there is also a sense of, especially from leftists in America, is that that's our original sin.
00:41:56.000 It's our cross to bear that we should be helping the rest of the world because America's evil.
00:42:00.000 Yeah.
00:42:00.000 Yeah.
00:42:01.000 No, we hate ourselves.
00:42:02.000 And so as a result, it's self flagellation.
00:42:05.000 And again, it's just this naivete that somehow if we just focus inward and whatever, the world will be fine.
00:42:11.000 And it's interesting part of the rhetoric, too, is we hear that, oh, well, the only reason the Middle East is messed up is because we ever went in there in the first place.
00:42:18.000 Like everything somehow in the world is either America.
00:42:21.000 Or Israel's fault.
00:42:22.000 And it's like, no, we weren't just twiddling our thumbs under Jimmy Carter and they literally attacked people and murdered America.
00:42:29.000 Like, anytime that we just try and are isolationist, we get it, like, things get really bad in the world.
00:42:35.000 Every time I try to get out, they pull me back in.
00:42:39.000 It's funny because we see these videos of how America used to be and they're like showing Times Square in like 1890 with this like high up res footage and everyone's like, look how great and peaceful it is.
00:42:51.000 And they show ski resorts.
00:42:53.000 Where everybody leaves thousands of dollars worth of ski equipment lying around.
00:42:56.000 High trust society.
00:42:59.000 And then many of these same people criticize Donald Trump or the U.S. in general for trying to maintain order and stability and high trust around the world.
00:43:08.000 Albeit it's a difficult job and sometimes you don't do it well.
00:43:12.000 And we should criticize the U.S. military when they do things that are bad.
00:43:14.000 I think Afghanistan and Iraq were huge blunders.
00:43:17.000 But again, to Phil's point, this has been the most benevolent global power in the history of mankind.
00:43:24.000 And as a matter of narrative framing, like my favorite part about X is like whenever a different president is in office, the other president.
00:43:31.000 Party or people who like the other party are like, the rest of the world is laughing at us right now.
00:43:36.000 But literally, all you have to do is wait, and both sides will say the same thing about the other side, about everything.
00:43:42.000 We are chickens in a chicken coop, really.
00:43:44.000 I would say we will.
00:43:44.000 I say this.
00:43:45.000 Republicans, I think, overwhelmingly love America, and Democrats overwhelmingly either seem embarrassed of America.
00:43:51.000 Like back to Michelle Obama.
00:43:53.000 I never felt proud of my country.
00:43:54.000 It's like, okay, if you don't like it, like no one's making you.
00:43:57.000 I just, I feel like this narrative has only escalated since we've been in our country.
00:44:01.000 I hate those things.
00:44:02.000 It's like, oh, like she wants it the worst.
00:44:04.000 It's like, Great, move to Iran.
00:44:05.000 Like, I want to throw a cultural reference there.
00:44:08.000 Squid Games, when it came out, I said it was a critique of communism.
00:44:12.000 And all the communists and lefties were like, Tim Pool's so dumb, it's clearly a critique of capitalism.
00:44:17.000 The guy who wrote it even said it was a critique of capitalism.
00:44:20.000 And I go back in time with this story because it's relevant to the worldview of these people.
00:44:24.000 Let me explain something.
00:44:25.000 In Squid Games, people who are down on their luck are promised the beautiful, beautiful new world.
00:44:33.000 Come and join us, and you will get something beautiful.
00:44:36.000 They are told to join by choice and they are put into a game where now they can die.
00:44:41.000 Not capitalism.
00:44:42.000 When they enter this game, they are stripped of all their possessions and belongings and have to wear jumpsuits that are identical and eat the same food.
00:44:48.000 They are placed on an equal line and told to compete in games while the powerful elites laugh and the poor people die.
00:44:55.000 Not capitalism.
00:44:56.000 If Squid Games were a critique of capitalism, they would say you can leave at any time.
00:45:02.000 They would say if you have more money, you can purchase a higher position in the hierarchy in those games.
00:45:08.000 They wouldn't require them all to revolt to try and fight their way out the way communists do.
00:45:12.000 Now, if your argument is the guy who wrote it thought it was a critique of capitalism, my response is yes, because communists are retarded and they don't understand that capitalism offers you choice.
00:45:22.000 If you don't like this system, you can literally opt out.
00:45:26.000 You can walk off into the wilderness, you can get in a boat and just kick yourself off in the ocean.
00:45:31.000 Now, fair point.
00:45:32.000 If you want to argue it's not so easy just to cut yourself off from society, that was always true whether there was government or not.
00:45:42.000 Alone in the woods, you die.
00:45:43.000 And if you want to argue that Squid Games was a critique of capitalism, I would accept this.
00:45:49.000 If in the show they said you're all allowed to leave whenever you want and the door led to the ocean, I'd say, I get it.
00:45:57.000 It's impossible.
00:45:58.000 Capitalism is very hard.
00:45:59.000 Leaving society is difficult.
00:46:01.000 But unfortunately for these people, that's not how it played out.
00:46:04.000 They critiqued communism accidentally and were too stupid to realize it.
00:46:07.000 Well, it's also like we live in this nihilistic culture now where it's like just the idea that they have to get up every day and go to work.
00:46:14.000 And they're like, I have to go to work for eight hours and I have to commute an hour.
00:46:19.000 That's like half my day.
00:46:21.000 I have to sleep.
00:46:22.000 Like, I have no time for me, right?
00:46:24.000 Not realizing that throughout human history, you didn't really have time for you because you had to get up and go hunt to make sure that you could actually get on these things.
00:46:31.000 Nasty, brutish, and short.
00:46:33.000 Yes.
00:46:35.000 So, here's an idea Leviathan.
00:46:35.000 Yeah.
00:46:38.000 I think we should do a Squid Games.
00:46:39.000 I think Mr. Beast doesn't go far enough.
00:46:41.000 I think what we should do is.
00:46:43.000 He would if he could, trust me.
00:46:44.000 Oh, God.
00:46:44.000 Well, I think these silly game shows like Survivor are dumb.
00:46:48.000 And Mr. Beast, it's like the Mr. Beast games are actually just more cutthroat.
00:46:55.000 If you take the million dollars, they all lose.
00:46:57.000 Yeah, I don't know you.
00:46:57.000 I'll do it.
00:46:58.000 I don't care.
00:46:59.000 Everybody's going to say yes.
00:47:01.000 What they should do is if you like, they should recruit people who are like, capitalism is bad.
00:47:06.000 It's like, okay.
00:47:07.000 How would you like to play this game show where you could win?
00:47:09.000 We should do this.
00:47:10.000 You win 10 grand.
00:47:11.000 What we do is we bring you to the woods, we throw a pointy stick at you and say, You're on your own for two weeks.
00:47:16.000 Good luck.
00:47:17.000 If you can make it in the real world without help from others, you will win money because then I will agree you actually have a point when you argue the system is bad.
00:47:26.000 If at any point you want to leave, just scream, Dear God, help me, I was wrong, and we'll airlift you out and we'll bring you home.
00:47:34.000 Not a single one of them.
00:47:35.000 Not a single communist would make it.
00:47:37.000 Not a single communist would make it.
00:47:39.000 I think you have a future in game shows on YouTube.
00:47:42.000 Mr. Poole.
00:47:43.000 Those are philosophical worldviews that are vastly different, right?
00:47:43.000 Yeah.
00:47:46.000 Is that the communists believe that the system should take care of you.
00:47:49.000 And the idea, which they now denigrate of rugged American individualism, is that it's your responsibility to make your own life what it is.
00:47:57.000 Let's do the commie games.
00:47:59.000 And then, because, like, I want to ask you guys something.
00:47:59.000 Perfect.
00:48:02.000 I am under no illusions.
00:48:04.000 In a communist society, they will put a bullet in my head or make me break rocks.
00:48:09.000 Bro, for what function do I benefit a communist society?
00:48:09.000 Why?
00:48:14.000 Is my talking going to benefit the great leader?
00:48:19.000 Well, only if I agree to read their script and advocate for them.
00:48:24.000 But in a communist society, there is no need for a plethora of podcasters.
00:48:28.000 So y'all are gone.
00:48:29.000 Just imagine what would happen to Hassan Piker if a communist revolution actually happened.
00:48:33.000 They'd be like, You're big, you can break rocks.
00:48:35.000 And he's going to go, But I'm a podcaster.
00:48:37.000 And they're going to go, Oh, what?
00:48:38.000 No, they might keep him.
00:48:39.000 Like, who else are they going to keep?
00:48:41.000 They'll use him.
00:48:43.000 The first thing they do is eliminate anybody who helped foment the revolution.
00:48:46.000 Which podcaster would they keep?
00:48:47.000 They got to keep one for the same reason.
00:48:49.000 Because you would have a new person who doesn't have any autonomy.
00:48:51.000 Yeah.
00:48:52.000 They could just have as a talking head.
00:48:54.000 Hassan Piker, in our society, has proven independently he has made a choice to foment a revolution and create this content.
00:49:03.000 Every single time we see these revolutions, they eliminate people like this because they are independent thinkers.
00:49:08.000 And your point is correct.
00:49:09.000 Yeah.
00:49:10.000 They just don't.
00:49:10.000 Exactly.
00:49:11.000 You live by the sword, you die by the sword.
00:49:13.000 You do not want revolutionaries when you're in control.
00:49:16.000 You use the revolutionaries to get control.
00:49:19.000 And then once you have control, you liquidate them.
00:49:21.000 It happened in Russia.
00:49:22.000 It happened in, it happened in Cambodia.
00:49:25.000 It happened in China, probably multiple times in China.
00:49:29.000 They will liquidate all of the people that foment the revolution now for you.
00:49:32.000 It's the French revolution, like you pointed out.
00:49:34.000 Like, how many revolutions did they have, even like seven in like two years?
00:49:37.000 I'm exaggerating.
00:49:38.000 You know, but it's so interesting to me, and it kind of makes me sad.
00:49:41.000 I feel like we're seeing the Iranian people want freedom.
00:49:45.000 They're tired of this Islamic Republic.
00:49:47.000 Or, you know, throughout the world, it seems like there's a recognition that capitalism is good, that the society that America's created is good, and yet Americans don't appreciate it.
00:49:57.000 And I know there's, you know, you were talking about some videos that have gone viral of what America used to be in the 1800s and 1900s, and now we're seeing, Viral videos in El Salvador, right?
00:50:06.000 Of how they've cleaned that up at the same time that we're looking at like Paris is being desecrated.
00:50:11.000 And so it almost feels like I don't want to be fatalistic here, but it feels like in South America with Mille and then, you know, in Argentina and then in El Salvador, those places are embracing Western values at the same time we're eschewing it.
00:50:26.000 And it's kind of sad.
00:50:28.000 Let's pull up this tweet from everyone's favorite, Candace Owens, who said that Trump killed Charlie Kirk.
00:50:33.000 Here's her tweet.
00:50:33.000 Yeah.
00:50:34.000 The Iranian president tweets that he is willing to sacrifice his own life for his people.
00:50:38.000 Donald Trump was willing to sacrifice Charlie Kirk and is willing to sacrifice every American life and livelihood for greater Israel.
00:50:45.000 Who is the animal again?
00:50:46.000 Now, is she evil, retarded, or both?
00:50:49.000 Both.
00:50:50.000 Both.
00:50:51.000 Agreed, accepted.
00:50:52.000 She is now advanced to saying Donald Trump killed or had Charlie Kirk killed for Israel.
00:51:00.000 Okay, just by the way, Iran is literally conscripting 12 year olds because no one wants to give their life for Iran.
00:51:05.000 They're literally forcing people to stand around power plants so that Trump doesn't.
00:51:10.000 I mean, obviously, what the Iranian president is saying is a complete effing lie.
00:51:15.000 I mean, right now, I'm seeing stuff on Twitter saying that there is.
00:51:15.000 Yeah.
00:51:20.000 Marvin Noffel's reporting missiles are still hitting Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait.
00:51:24.000 I've gotten no actual.
00:51:26.000 IDF is attacking Iran following multiple missile launches from the country.
00:51:29.000 There's also word that Iran is launching UAE, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait.
00:51:37.000 In the 12 day war, after they announced cessation of hostilities, there were still missiles flying.
00:51:41.000 And it was the weirdest thing where they're like.
00:51:42.000 We're flying a ceasefire and we'll stop firing missiles in three hours.
00:51:45.000 Like, just stop now, dude.
00:51:46.000 What are you doing?
00:51:46.000 But anyway, back to where we're currently at domestically with, I don't know, just the mass formation psychosis, I guess.
00:51:57.000 It's pretty wild that you can watch Candace Owens increment the psychosis.
00:52:02.000 I gotta say, I think she's a Pied Piper.
00:52:04.000 It's an intentional play where every day she says something crazier and crazier and crazier.
00:52:09.000 She is pulling people into a dark corner that they're gonna lop off and cast away.
00:52:14.000 So, you start with, I love Charlie Kirk, and then all the Charlie Kirk fans are like, oh, let me hear what you have to say.
00:52:19.000 She then says, I want to get to the bottom of who murdered him.
00:52:22.000 They all start listening.
00:52:23.000 Every day, she increments the story in a crazier and crazier way.
00:52:27.000 Now, people who are reasonable seven months ago think Donald Trump killed Charlie Kirk today.
00:52:34.000 That is a degree of retardation and mass formation psychosis that it's hard to recover from.
00:52:38.000 So, these people will start posting these things, and then I imagine they're going to start getting banned.
00:52:44.000 Censorship's going to appear, and she's Pied Pipering all of these people in a crazy direction, and then they'll all get axed from the internet.
00:52:52.000 Yeah.
00:52:54.000 I mean, look, I can't say enough negative things about people like, you know, like Candace Owens and a slew of other, you know, influencers or whatever you want to call them that have just jumped onto Charlie Kirk and moved directly to Israel did it and all.
00:53:12.000 No, Trump did it.
00:53:13.000 Well, I mean, that's the point.
00:53:14.000 You're saying Trump killed Charlie.
00:53:16.000 Well, because Israel controls him.
00:53:18.000 Yeah.
00:53:18.000 Or Trump did it for Israel.
00:53:20.000 It's textbook brainwashing.
00:53:22.000 It's almost like the strategies you read that the communists use on people.
00:53:25.000 It's sort of this.
00:53:27.000 Frog in the boiling water, where day by day you're not really paying attention to what's going on, and then you just get so sucked in.
00:53:34.000 And then you start to believe this, and you assume that only she has this secret knowledge, and she's the only person that you can really listen to.
00:53:42.000 Right?
00:53:43.000 I just, the conspiracy theories are really out of control, and I don't understand where they come from, but it's.
00:53:49.000 My conspiracy theory is that they are excising the fringes, and this is a really excellent plan towards doing it.
00:53:55.000 Every day, she.
00:53:55.000 Look, the people who follow.
00:53:57.000 Every day, you mean.
00:53:58.000 Her corporate interests, deep state, machine state politicians.
00:54:01.000 What do you think the corporate interests are?
00:54:03.000 The same people who are behind, like intelligence agencies, the same people who are behind YouTube censorship.
00:54:08.000 If you're looking at how Twitter and Facebook, when it was Twitter, had backdoors for intelligence agencies, where the Biden administration, I think, got sued by Alex Bernstein for telling them to censor him, censorship did not work.
00:54:21.000 So, what is the best course of action you can take?
00:54:24.000 Okay, well, how do we get people to all collectively start breaking the rules in such a way that we can legitimately just Just removing them.
00:54:30.000 Well, you make them nuts.
00:54:32.000 Whose interest would that be?
00:54:33.000 And you think that the ultimate goal of making people crazy is censorship?
00:54:37.000 Is that the idea?
00:54:39.000 I would argue that Donald Trump was not supposed to win.
00:54:42.000 They thought Hillary Clinton was going to win.
00:54:44.000 The WikiLeaks emails in 2016 from Democrats show that they thought Trump was a Pied Piper candidate, that they would use him to lead Republicans in a bad direction they could not win.
00:54:53.000 And then Trump won.
00:54:54.000 And they were like, crap, what do we do?
00:54:56.000 I think they're now realizing that you have this massive populist base.
00:54:59.000 They're all subscribed to and supporting Turning Point.
00:55:01.000 Turning Point.
00:55:02.000 Helped Trump win again.
00:55:04.000 So the play is how do we get these people to stop paying attention to foreign policy and politics?
00:55:11.000 Candace Owens is one of the most prominent actors in helping Democrats win the midterms with the quote from Candace We don't care about your midterms.
00:55:23.000 I mean, do you think, I mean, now I'm criticizing conspiracy theories and then potentially getting into them.
00:55:29.000 It's interesting.
00:55:30.000 Hassan Piker was criticized because he posted a screenshot of his followers and it revealed.
00:55:34.000 That he only had like 20,000 verified followers or something.
00:55:37.000 On X. Talking on X.
00:55:39.000 I mean, do you think then that there are folks who are sort of popping her up with bot networks?
00:55:44.000 What I will say is this.
00:55:44.000 Well, I don't know.
00:55:45.000 When Elon announced he was going to buy Twitter, something strange happened across Social Blade where you could track all of the liberal personalities started losing hundreds of thousands of followers and conservatives started gaining hundreds of thousands of followers, which defies explanation.
00:55:59.000 Some argued that they had their thumb on the scale.
00:56:01.000 They had a script that would artificially amplify the accounts of leftists to make it look more prominent.
00:56:07.000 One of the theories is that.
00:56:09.000 Well, I'll tell you this a tactic in SciPs, which is a fact, this is true.
00:56:15.000 What you do is you go on Google Ads, it's harder to do these days, and you can run advertisements on a single video of your choosing.
00:56:23.000 So let's say the story that I've talked about is a fitness influencer who was, I will not name, I don't want to start a beef.
00:56:29.000 A guy who used to just make, I'm doing push ups today, and I'm going to do my delts today, and like we're going running today.
00:56:34.000 And then he got asked to comment on Israel after October 7th.
00:56:38.000 So he made a video saying, I'm not big on politics.
00:56:39.000 I know people have been asking me.
00:56:41.000 That video gets 50K views.
00:56:44.000 So he's normally getting 10 to 20K.
00:56:46.000 Well, it's a big trending story, right?
00:56:49.000 It's a bunch of views.
00:56:50.000 And then he says, Wow, I talked about Israel.
00:56:52.000 I got a lot.
00:56:53.000 He goes back to fitness.
00:56:54.000 The comments are saying, Hey, look what's going on.
00:56:56.000 What do you think?
00:56:56.000 Look what's going on.
00:56:57.000 We saw your video.
00:56:58.000 So he goes, I'll do another one, 100,000 views.
00:57:00.000 And he goes, Wow.
00:57:01.000 Now his channel is literally just Israel.
00:57:03.000 And all he does is he doesn't even do fitness anymore.
00:57:06.000 Because what happens is he starts getting massive viewership.
00:57:08.000 Now, how can you game that?
00:57:09.000 You can go to someone's channel, wait till they post the content you want them to make, take the URL, go on Google Ads, and put $1,000 behind that one video.
00:57:19.000 Now, every time somebody watches that video, your ad wins the bid and they'll get slightly higher viewership and money.
00:57:26.000 Because you pledged a thousand bucks on it, YouTube says we need to play this video more because we've got ads bought against it.
00:57:32.000 I didn't realize the ads could influence the content in that way.
00:57:36.000 So imagine this: imagine you make three videos.
00:57:39.000 One's about the color green, one's blue, one's red.
00:57:42.000 Blue and green should get 10,000, red gets 100,000.
00:57:45.000 You look at the red video and you're like, I made 500 bucks off that.
00:57:48.000 You're going to make more.
00:57:49.000 And that can be artificially controlled by going to Google Ads and putting money into it.
00:57:53.000 This is known.
00:57:54.000 And whether there's evidence of direct psyops, I don't know.
00:57:57.000 But I just, I do know it is a technique and tactic that is used.
00:58:00.000 I mean, if you're a billionaire and you want to.
00:58:03.000 You don't even need a billion dollars.
00:58:04.000 It can be real cheap.
00:58:06.000 It is crazy how much things can be influenced in the attention economy.
00:58:11.000 People could spend a couple thousand bucks and like, Completely, or you look at the way that politicians are bought off with a couple million bucks.
00:58:16.000 I mean, it's insane.
00:58:18.000 You're strategic how little money you can use to control and influence things.
00:58:23.000 They censored Alex Jones and banned him from YouTube.
00:58:26.000 Nick Fuentes as well.
00:58:27.000 These are individuals that are largely viewed as organic, independent.
00:58:30.000 Alex Jones, anti establishment, says a bunch of controversial things.
00:58:34.000 Well, Candace Owens says things that are controversial as well that break the rules, but she is promoted by YouTube.
00:58:41.000 She's married to a British lord and her lawyers work in a building with federal agents.
00:58:46.000 So it just reeks of, I don't know, some kind of coordinated effort.
00:58:51.000 I'm not saying it is.
00:58:52.000 She could just be a wackaloon.
00:58:54.000 But I will say if you were concerned that a large populist base was voting for a candidate you did not like, what is the effective way to stop them?
00:59:03.000 You get them to focus on issues that don't matter in elections.
00:59:06.000 I mean, but this is happening anyways because of the big tent, right?
00:59:09.000 It's like what did I say the other week?
00:59:10.000 It's like in one day, three separate parts of the 2024 coalition all said they were going to lose the midterms.
00:59:17.000 One was.
00:59:18.000 Glyphosate and the other one was Iran and they're like, everybody's got their one issue and everybody's a one issue voter now.
00:59:23.000 But those, those, those, those issues actually matter for an election.
00:59:27.000 So if they're pushing out, they're saying, like, I'm not voting for them.
00:59:30.000 So, so whoever it is says to a million people.
00:59:33.000 So, so, so again, how do you stop those people?
00:59:36.000 If you have a great big wall, it's guarding your property and everybody keeps attacking the weak point and you're like, they keep breaking through the weak point and getting in past our wall.
00:59:48.000 What do we do?
00:59:48.000 We need to trick them into fighting the tree over there instead of the wall.
00:59:52.000 So, what you do is you can start running stories about how the tree is a portal that leads to the inside of the wall, and they all start whacking the tree, and now they're doing God knows what, and you're laughing.
01:00:02.000 I think it's so crazy.
01:00:04.000 I mean, this is such a new phenomenon in the history of the world where you have these sort of parasocial relationships with podcasters and influencers in a way that we never had with like Walter Cronkite or Tokyo Rose, who obviously tried to lure the soldiers into sort of Japanese propaganda.
01:00:24.000 People did have those with like.
01:00:25.000 With like TV personalities and entertainers and stuff.
01:00:29.000 But there's so much trust because she, you know, all these people market themselves as just your normal kind of gal that you might see at a coffee shop or whatever.
01:00:39.000 And then it's crazy to think that like there actually could be money and propaganda and all of these things behind that.
01:00:47.000 It's actually not about the coffee shop.
01:00:48.000 Actually, it's about these people saying like everyone's lying to you.
01:00:51.000 I'm the one who's telling you the truth.
01:00:53.000 Let me just, let me keep it simple.
01:00:55.000 YouTube was censoring.
01:00:57.000 It's a fact.
01:00:58.000 Especially the Eric Charmella story.
01:01:00.000 They deleted one of my videos for simply reading a real clear investigation story on this guy.
01:01:06.000 We know they did.
01:01:07.000 It didn't work.
01:01:08.000 It didn't curtail the message, it exacerbated the problem.
01:01:11.000 Alex Jones still exists.
01:01:12.000 They banned him.
01:01:13.000 He's still around.
01:01:15.000 What's the more effective means of eliminating a popular movement?
01:01:19.000 You throw a bone in the wrong direction and make them go chase it.
01:01:22.000 Now, when it comes to elections, they're going to go, Donald Trump killed Charlie Kirk.
01:01:26.000 Don't vote for him.
01:01:27.000 And you're going to go, What the are you talking about?
01:01:29.000 Trump's talking about lowering gas prices.
01:01:31.000 No, he killed Charlie Kirk.
01:01:32.000 And it's like, you're out.
01:01:34.000 You can't combat that, right?
01:01:36.000 It's like, at that point, people are so down the rabbit hole.
01:01:40.000 That's the point.
01:01:41.000 How do you bring them back to reality?
01:01:41.000 Yeah.
01:01:43.000 Otherwise, it was glyphosate, it was Iran, and then it was Epstein.
01:01:48.000 And those are the three things.
01:01:49.000 Yeah, I hate glyphosate.
01:01:51.000 This is actually something I organically care about.
01:01:53.000 There you go.
01:01:53.000 And that actually helped Trump win because RFK Jr. got suburban women who are middle of the road to vote for the Trump administration.
01:02:00.000 And Candace is doing everything in her power to.
01:02:02.000 Push those voters out, make sure they vote Democrat or don't vote at all.
01:02:06.000 I don't think that's an accident.
01:02:08.000 I mean, it's a lot of, yeah, suburban moms who listen to her.
01:02:11.000 I don't think it's an accident that Trump won in two ways.
01:02:15.000 This is really interesting.
01:02:17.000 Candace hits the nail on the head with two major voting blocks.
01:02:21.000 She is attacking Turning Point, which got young voters to vote for Trump, and she is attacking Trump personally to suburban women.
01:02:34.000 So Getting people to turn on Turning Point, which is a massive voter registration effort for Trump and the Republicans, and convincing the maha suburban women that Trump is an assassin who killed Charlie Kirk for Israel.
01:02:47.000 She is attacking a principal voter block for the right populist movement.
01:02:51.000 I don't think that's an accident.
01:02:52.000 No.
01:02:53.000 No, I've never thought about it that way.
01:02:56.000 But you obviously understand the attention economy and incentives.
01:02:59.000 And I mean, it's sort of the most fundamental thing.
01:03:02.000 It's like Maslov's, or not Maslov's, no, it's like Pavlov's.
01:03:06.000 Sorry, I don't know.
01:03:07.000 I was thinking of some scientist.
01:03:08.000 Yeah, where it's like people respond to these hits and they respond to whatever traffic's wall and they just do more of it.
01:03:14.000 We got this tweet from Matt Van Swoll that I really liked.
01:03:17.000 He said, Why does everything feel like theater?
01:03:19.000 We have a Congress that won't pass something 83% of people want.
01:03:23.000 We have a judicial system that doesn't hold criminals accountable.
01:03:25.000 We have an education system that doesn't educate.
01:03:27.000 We have a nonprofit system that profits from our tax dollars.
01:03:30.000 We have a healthcare industry that profits from you staying sick.
01:03:33.000 We have a financial industry that needs you to stay in debt.
01:03:36.000 We have an insurance industry that fights every single claim.
01:03:38.000 It just all feels so fake, so theatrical.
01:03:41.000 Because I will tell you this.
01:03:43.000 Everybody just wants to extract some kind of value for themselves, and they will do it wherever they can.
01:03:50.000 The leftists will just say that that's capitalism's fault.
01:03:53.000 And the right will say it's communism.
01:03:54.000 Exactly.
01:03:55.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:03:56.000 None of that matters.
01:03:57.000 I will make the argument that evil is much, much more pronounced than people realize.
01:04:03.000 We had talked about this last week that, you know, they say when you come into money, everyone comes out of the woodwork.
01:04:09.000 But I would say that when you gain any kind of notoriety, people that you know and trust, you see them instantly turn into demons.
01:04:16.000 They'll knife you in the back, they'll steal from you, they'll betray you, they'll accuse you of things.
01:04:20.000 It's wild.
01:04:22.000 It was like something that was rather a shock to me when I experienced it.
01:04:25.000 It was like when you were talking earlier about animal farming.
01:04:27.000 I'm like, I'm radicalized against private equity.
01:04:29.000 Have you seen the stories about like the hockey player, the hockey kids whose parents aren't allowed to film at arenas because private equity owns the rinks?
01:04:37.000 Like, this is the funny thing.
01:04:38.000 What does private equity mean?
01:04:40.000 In this case, it was bought up by a specific firm.
01:04:42.000 See, the issue that I take with this quote unquote private equity claim is that they're upset over the actions of a company.
01:04:48.000 What the critique though is instead of saying company bought, there's a company I like, it was bought out by an investment firm.
01:04:54.000 That's what private equity means.
01:04:56.000 And then stripped of assets and broken down.
01:04:57.000 It's like, okay.
01:04:58.000 But then they say all private equity is bad.
01:05:00.000 It's like you're just criticizing capitalism.
01:05:02.000 Well, that's, I mean, that's just an inability to be nuanced in the subject.
01:05:06.000 Okay.
01:05:07.000 I wrestle with this because I obviously am a huge believer in capitalism.
01:05:11.000 But in any system, you have flaws.
01:05:14.000 And I think private equity and to an extent, hedge funds are those flaws.
01:05:18.000 I think capitalism.
01:05:19.000 But let's, I got to stop you there.
01:05:21.000 Hold on.
01:05:22.000 You have to define private equity.
01:05:23.000 So private equity, I would say, I don't want to name them.
01:05:25.000 They're the big PE firms that buy things up, they laden them with debt.
01:05:30.000 And then they create this situation where they have to make an insane amount of profit, which means firing people and raising prices.
01:05:41.000 And so it's a veterinarian.
01:05:43.000 If your critique is a specific company, then we can critique that corrupt company.
01:05:47.000 Like saying, because there are big companies that do bad things, the entire function of private equity is bad is just, I think it's wrong.
01:05:54.000 I think in theory, there's value to it.
01:05:58.000 The general concept of.
01:05:59.000 But what we're seeing right now is like it's destroying mainstream.
01:06:03.000 I disagree.
01:06:03.000 I think there are certain companies that are bad.
01:06:06.000 The concept of private equity at its blanket core is I have an investment firm and we see a dysfunctional company that is burning money and mischieving its employees.
01:06:15.000 We can come in, clean things up, cut the bloat.
01:06:18.000 It's basically like flipping houses for businesses.
01:06:21.000 But the communists hate all of it.
01:06:22.000 There was a video I watched where someone was talking about how to disrupt house flipping.
01:06:26.000 And I'm like, House flipping is a service.
01:06:29.000 You find a derelict house that's in disrepair.
01:06:32.000 You go in, you clean it up, and you get a profit for doing that service and making the community a little bit nicer.
01:06:37.000 Private equity does that for businesses that are dysfunctional.
01:06:40.000 They go in, they say, you've got redundancies here.
01:06:43.000 You've got to cut that, and we can make this business profitable again.
01:06:46.000 However, there are big, evil real estate companies that do things like blockbusting.
01:06:51.000 We don't say all real estate is evil.
01:06:53.000 And there are big private equity firms that do bad things and gut companies and fire people to strip them from parts.
01:06:58.000 But that doesn't mean the entire concept of investing in business is a bad thing.
01:07:01.000 I would say, yeah, I totally agree with that analysis.
01:07:04.000 I think right now we're in a situation where, and this is, I've been thinking a lot about like America as an experiment.
01:07:10.000 And obviously the founders believe that like America is, I think this is apocryphally attributed to, who is it I'm linking to, Tocqueville.
01:07:18.000 But America is great because she's good.
01:07:20.000 And when she ceases to be good, she'll cease to be great.
01:07:22.000 And so I think the morality and faith and religion, all of that is such an important underpinning for our system.
01:07:29.000 And when you watch like, You know, Frank Capra movies where you see the little guy trying to stand up against kind of the big guy.
01:07:35.000 I think America used to have a system of morality.
01:07:39.000 You look at CEOs.
01:07:40.000 Trust.
01:07:40.000 In the 60s, you know, they were paid, I think, like 100 times the average employee.
01:07:45.000 And now.
01:07:46.000 Back in the day, it was about 13%.
01:07:47.000 13 times.
01:07:48.000 Okay.
01:07:49.000 Now it's 100.
01:07:50.000 Now it's way more than that.
01:07:53.000 And so I think, I don't know.
01:07:54.000 I think there is.
01:07:56.000 But I don't think the system is flawed, but I do think that like people had more of.
01:08:01.000 A sense of responsibility to their community.
01:08:04.000 There's a CEO of a Fortune 500 company.
01:08:05.000 He'll make maybe $13 million average salary.
01:08:08.000 Sometimes they get more than that, depending.
01:08:10.000 The stockholders and owners that function as CEOs will make more through stock bonuses and things like that.
01:08:14.000 If you were to take the salary of the CEO and break it up among their 40,000 employees, people aren't really going to make much more money at all.
01:08:22.000 And to be fair, a lot of the compensation when we say, oh, the CEO made $500 million this year, it's stock.
01:08:29.000 They don't make that much money.
01:08:31.000 It's not like they're getting that in their pocket because they're incentivized.
01:08:35.000 To so, I actually don't also think that was kind of an escape.
01:08:39.000 The people who critique the guy at the top of the food chain at the company tend to straw man the argument about just how important his job is and just how much he has to do in a given day, the relationships that he has to build with other companies, his attempt to be able to foresee what's going to happen at the market.
01:08:55.000 If you look at what David Zaslav did with Warner Brothers before the Paramount sale, he had to lean out the company and he had to cancel the right projects, he had to move things around to make it.
01:09:07.000 He took his stock that was at like $16 and got another company to pay like $40.
01:09:12.000 So, this is an important clarification for most people.
01:09:15.000 The last time we covered this, it was lower, and it's been several years of inflation, it's been pretty brutal.
01:09:18.000 But the average compensation package for a Fortune 500 CEO, any guesses?
01:09:24.000 18 million.
01:09:26.000 And that's not the salary.
01:09:27.000 That's a compensation package, which includes bonuses and equity awards.
01:09:31.000 Any guesses on the base average salary for a Fortune 500 CEO?
01:09:36.000 $75 million.
01:09:37.000 $1 million.
01:09:39.000 So these people come out and they are convinced, these commies, that CEOs of these Fortune 500s are making $500 million when they're making 500 times less than that.
01:09:50.000 Elon Musk or Batman.
01:09:52.000 This is my other thing.
01:09:53.000 I think Elon Musk deserves every petty.
01:09:56.000 Absolutely.
01:09:57.000 That's more of like a.
01:09:58.000 A safe pair of hands.
01:10:00.000 You're not necessarily innovating, but people in tech who are actually creating things, I'm like, he deserves, I want him to be a trillionaire.
01:10:06.000 Like, he has created out of nothing incredible products that are sending people to space, making all of our lives better.
01:10:13.000 Like, that to me is the capitalist dream.
01:10:15.000 You're making the pie bigger, you're creating things so people's lives improve.
01:10:19.000 It's also about your fundamental outlook on improving the world, right?
01:10:22.000 It's like the argument I always make is like, we've been to the most rural areas of the state, and Amazon can still deliver you packages there, right?
01:10:28.000 The idea is like, is Jeff Bezos in charge of Amazon anymore.
01:10:33.000 But the point being, it's a company that he built, right?
01:10:35.000 Like, how much cap do you want to put on what he's worth when he's able to bring people who at one point may not have had access to that much that quickly can now get something shipped to them in two days?
01:10:47.000 It depends on how you view what he's given society.
01:10:51.000 Okay, so I'm curious actually, Tim, to get your take on hedge funds because I know you made the point that PE can actually be beneficial.
01:11:00.000 I think maybe hedge funds can be beneficial.
01:11:02.000 I think they are so abused right now.
01:11:06.000 Like all of the, many of the richest people in New York, I live in New York, the nicest homes in the Hamptons are almost all owned by hedge fund managers.
01:11:14.000 I don't think they create that much value for the economy.
01:11:16.000 And I know the argument about, oh, they have teachers' pensions and, but, but, but, but.
01:11:20.000 I really don't think that these people who are worth like $10 billion, I don't think that they have created $10 billion worth of value.
01:11:27.000 I think, honestly, they created a trillion, but I don't think they've.
01:11:29.000 I would agree and disagree.
01:11:31.000 The, uh, Management of the economy is probably one of the most important jobs.
01:11:35.000 So, whether they deserve to get, you know, $20 million a year or whatever, I don't know.
01:11:40.000 But oftentimes it's like 100.
01:11:42.000 Economic management is probably the most important thing that someone could do in this system.
01:11:47.000 But the reason I mean, obviously, I think there's much more important jobs.
01:11:51.000 But there's a function of.
01:11:53.000 You're moving, you know what I mean?
01:11:54.000 You're not creating value, you're moving numbers around.
01:11:57.000 I think that's an overly simplistic way to view what hedge fund managers are doing.
01:12:01.000 I mean, if you're a bad hedge fund manager and you're.
01:12:04.000 Hedge fund loses money, you're going to lose the job, right?
01:12:06.000 Yeah, like, again, I'm not going to.
01:12:08.000 After you take your 2 and 20, you'll still make a lot of money.
01:12:10.000 Day traders actually don't.
01:12:11.000 So I'll start here.
01:12:12.000 I know this is not head fund managers, but day traders are not a real thing for the most part.
01:12:16.000 Like, their margins are slim.
01:12:18.000 There are people who live in this fantasy world where they think that you can sit there on a computer trading and you're going to make a bunch of money.
01:12:22.000 You don't.
01:12:23.000 I think you sit there and think about it for a few seconds, you're going to realize, like, there's a cap to how much money you can actually generate.
01:12:29.000 There's a bunch of fake posts on the internet where they're like, you can program a bot to make money on the stock market for you, which is just not true.
01:12:35.000 The liquidity doesn't exist for it.
01:12:37.000 So, like we've discussed this here, these posts where they're like, I made a bot for Polymarket and it's generating $100,000 a month.
01:12:43.000 Not true.
01:12:44.000 It's not possible because liquidity doesn't exist for that.
01:12:46.000 So, there are key areas where you can buy, but you have to manually do it because these bots don't know how to do it fast enough and they can't see as wide as a human can.
01:12:53.000 Maybe in the future they can.
01:12:54.000 For hedge fund managers, they're doing that, but a larger scale, which is managing people's pensions and investments.
01:13:00.000 So, the management of retirement funds and economics is a very important job.
01:13:04.000 I think there are more important jobs.
01:13:06.000 I do think they probably make a lot more money than they need to.
01:13:09.000 That's a fair assessment, but.
01:13:10.000 I don't think it's as simple to say just move money around.
01:13:12.000 Like they're calculating things and they're smarter.
01:13:15.000 And I think the activists actually will say, okay, this company's screwed up.
01:13:15.000 Yeah.
01:13:18.000 I actually think short sellers have a value.
01:13:21.000 I think they're sort of monitoring certain companies and whether.
01:13:25.000 What I would say is.
01:13:26.000 I don't think.
01:13:27.000 I mean, like hedge fund.
01:13:27.000 Like I don't think like Congress.
01:13:29.000 All of the.
01:13:30.000 Everybody thinks they're smarter than everybody else.
01:13:32.000 And it's laughable when they say things like they're smarter than most people in Congress.
01:13:37.000 And they're just like some mid 40s dude who like comes on a podcast periodically.
01:13:41.000 Or they.
01:13:43.000 Well, everyone knows what I was talking about.
01:13:45.000 Or they claim that Donald Trump is an idiot and they're smarter than him.
01:13:48.000 Oh my God.
01:13:49.000 Yeah.
01:13:49.000 That kills me.
01:13:50.000 Yeah.
01:13:52.000 It's fascinating.
01:13:53.000 They're smarter.
01:13:53.000 What I will tell you, and here's a lesson for everybody who doesn't own a business from someone who does, and I know all the people who do own a business are going to love it because they know what I'm talking about.
01:14:04.000 You will find that there is a decent portion of individuals who will come to work for you who believe that you have infinite money, money just exists, and they deserve it.
01:14:14.000 And I will tell you throughout my years with contractors and various employees, I have literally asked people, So you're asking me for money?
01:14:22.000 And they're like, Yes.
01:14:23.000 And I said, Where does that money come from?
01:14:25.000 And what do you mean?
01:14:27.000 I'm like, Well, you want me, Tim Pool, to give you money, right?
01:14:32.000 Like, Yeah, okay, where does that money come from?
01:14:34.000 They're like, I don't know, the business.
01:14:36.000 And I'm like, right, but the business has to get it from somewhere.
01:14:38.000 Like, I had this, Ian, we had this conversation on the show when he was saying that in the future, shows will pay the people to watch them.
01:14:45.000 And I said, what?
01:14:47.000 He's like, yeah, because the eyeballs are valuable.
01:14:49.000 I'm like, then why?
01:14:51.000 So the sponsor would make their own show.
01:14:53.000 They wouldn't sponsor other shows.
01:14:54.000 He's like, what?
01:14:55.000 No, I'm just saying the show would just pay people to watch the show.
01:14:58.000 And I said, where does that money come from?
01:15:00.000 Like, I have to track every month, every week, income and output, and then balance that budget.
01:15:06.000 The government doesn't have to do that.
01:15:08.000 They just print the money.
01:15:09.000 But I tell you, there are people who literally just think, What do you mean?
01:15:13.000 You have money.
01:15:13.000 You're a business.
01:15:14.000 It just exists.
01:15:15.000 And because everyone's told they're special.
01:15:17.000 They're special.
01:15:18.000 They deserve to have money.
01:15:19.000 Communists.
01:15:21.000 That's why I think communism is so easy because people don't understand that businesses have to have inflow.
01:15:28.000 And they just assume the company has the money.
01:15:30.000 And I love this.
01:15:31.000 I'll tell you one of my favorite stories.
01:15:34.000 When I worked for Fusion and ended up leaving, I had friends who still work there.
01:15:38.000 And I found out they were trying to form a union.
01:15:41.000 For those that don't know, Univision and ABC teamed up for an investment to create a.
01:15:46.000 It was originally supposed to be Hispanic oriented millennial media, but they realized that millennial Hispanics actually spoke English.
01:15:54.000 And so they could actually cast a broader net.
01:15:57.000 So they teamed up with ABC and said, let's make a youth brand, Creative Fusion.
01:16:02.000 So this was a company that made no money.
01:16:03.000 It was built off of, I believe the number was a $300 million combined investment from the two companies.
01:16:09.000 So, they built a building.
01:16:10.000 It was massive.
01:16:11.000 They hired a bunch of young people.
01:16:12.000 They paid great salaries.
01:16:12.000 I was one of them.
01:16:14.000 I left and then I heard the employees were trying to form a union.
01:16:17.000 And I talked to one of my friends who worked there and I said, What's this about?
01:16:21.000 You guys are trying to unionize?
01:16:23.000 And she's like, Yeah, I don't think they pay enough.
01:16:26.000 And I said, But they don't make money.
01:16:29.000 She said, What do you mean?
01:16:31.000 They've got a bunch of money and they need to pay us more.
01:16:33.000 And I said, The company you work for does not generate revenue.
01:16:38.000 I'm not talking about profit, I'm saying they literally don't generate revenue.
01:16:43.000 Meaning, they are spending other people's money to hire you in hopes they get more advertising dollars.
01:16:48.000 Now, they did have some revenue.
01:16:50.000 She could not comprehend what I was saying.
01:16:52.000 And she said, I don't know what you mean.
01:16:54.000 We are a bunch of talented writers and journalists, and they need to pay us more money that's market like comparable.
01:17:00.000 And I said, The money you are asking for of this company has to come from the pockets of a wealthy individual who then decides whether he's going to give it to you.
01:17:11.000 I said, Listen, if you want to keep your job, You need to go to the president of the company right now and say, I reject the unionization.
01:17:17.000 Tell me what you need me to do, and I will do it.
01:17:19.000 But I don't want to be party to this because I understand we don't generate revenue.
01:17:23.000 And she goes, No, I think you're wrong.
01:17:25.000 A week later, they fired 300 people.
01:17:28.000 It's very confronting, I think, to recognize, yeah, like, oh, I actually have to create a service.
01:17:33.000 Like, I have to create value for something.
01:17:36.000 And I think a lot of journalists, particularly in New York, kind of think because they went to an Ivy League school or they have a job that's very prestigious that they should.
01:17:44.000 Also, make a lot of money, and David Brooks writes about this like status income disequilibrium.
01:17:48.000 That the reality, and I didn't realize this when I got my first job in news where I'm like making 30k and try to live in New York.
01:17:56.000 No, there's a lot of people who want to do these jobs.
01:17:58.000 And if you want to differentiate yourself or if you want to make more money, you have to differentiate yourself.
01:18:02.000 That's the fundamental thing that a lot of people in Hollywood don't understand because they're basically paid, like the studios pay them to make these movies.
01:18:09.000 And then they're mad when the movies don't get to be made the way they want them to.
01:18:12.000 And they're like, why won't you let me make my movie the way I want to make it?
01:18:15.000 No one wants to watch your movie.
01:18:17.000 I'm the one who has to pay everyone the money.
01:18:19.000 I want to see a return on my investment.
01:18:21.000 And then they're shocked when they're told, no, you can't do that because the studio theoretically actually wants to make something that people want to see.
01:18:28.000 And if you make out that that happens, investors, yeah.
01:18:30.000 Make it happen for you.
01:18:30.000 And if you make a product that the, I don't know if it's the way, this way in the studio, but in the music world, like if you make a record and you're like, no, we're doing this on our record.
01:18:39.000 We're not doing what the label wants.
01:18:41.000 The label will be like, well, we don't hear a single or what have you.
01:18:43.000 If you make a record and the label's like, we don't believe in it, it's actually better for the label to say, okay, fine, you made the record.
01:18:49.000 We're not going to spend a whole lot of money on promoting it.
01:18:52.000 And the reason is because they don't believe in the record.
01:18:56.000 So why are they going to spend more money over the, you know, $250,000 they spent to, To make the record or whatever.
01:19:02.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:19:03.000 Absolutely.
01:19:03.000 They are completely correct.
01:19:04.000 It's the funniest thing in the world to me because I certainly can't speak to it the way that Phil could, but I've had friends who had smaller deals back when I was in my early 20s.
01:19:13.000 And the entitlement from these people blew my mind.
01:19:18.000 And I have to ask them, I was like, honest question.
01:19:24.000 Did the label just owe you the money that you were asking for?
01:19:28.000 Like, was there a reason they had to pay you?
01:19:29.000 And they were like, well, they signed us.
01:19:31.000 And I'm like, right, but.
01:19:33.000 They signed you to make a product that people would listen to, and then you told them you didn't want to.
01:19:39.000 So, why should they give you money if you don't want to do what they're hiring you to do?
01:19:44.000 And they did not understand because, in their mind, they were talent.
01:19:47.000 That means they were just deserving of the money.
01:19:49.000 I'm not trying to like dunk on millennials because I am actually a millennial, but I do think there's an entire generation that was raised to think that we're just inherently special and wonderful and talented.
01:20:04.000 We need to be celebrated no matter what we do.
01:20:07.000 And I also think Gen Z to an extent, all of these kids, because the parenting mindset went from basically like, live your life, you know, be smart, to now like, oh no, children need to be nurtured and told they're wonderful.
01:20:22.000 And of course, when you get into the real world, you just assume that everyone else is going to treat you like your parents and just nurture you and tell you you're great.
01:20:30.000 And that's just not the real world.
01:20:32.000 And I'm sure parenting is not preparing children to be successful, competent.
01:20:38.000 Adults.
01:20:38.000 Millennials were raised on average poorly.
01:20:43.000 Yeah.
01:20:44.000 Well, I mean, I think so.
01:20:46.000 I was raised fantastically, okay?
01:20:48.000 My parents were great.
01:20:50.000 Anecdotally, okay.
01:20:51.000 So that's why when X raised.
01:20:52.000 Gen X had his room because we were all perfect little angles.
01:20:54.000 Gen X had to raise his soul.
01:20:56.000 It's very mixed, actually, because I know there's a lot of chatter about income inequality, and I'm very mixed.
01:21:02.000 I do think that we're in a tough economic environment.
01:21:05.000 I do think that many people were sold a false bowl of goods where they were told to go to college, they took out too much debt.
01:21:11.000 Now they're in a tough situation.
01:21:13.000 So I'm very conflicted because I do think.
01:21:16.000 There are certain people who were set up to fail, but I also think there's a lot of people who thought that they should have the sun, moon, and stars and are really upset that they have to take a low paying job and work their way up.
01:21:28.000 So I think it's mixed there.
01:21:31.000 I agree with you about the fact that kids were sold a bill of goods about going to college, especially considering AI now, like all the kids that went to college that got degrees and couldn't find a job.
01:21:39.000 It's only going to get worse for white collar workers.
01:21:41.000 But the idea of income inequality being a problem, I reject that because the problem isn't that there are other people that have made too much money.
01:21:49.000 That doesn't affect.
01:21:50.000 Doesn't mean that other people can't afford it.
01:21:51.000 Everyone in America has opportunity.
01:21:52.000 And also, the reason why there's so much income inequality is because the government left interest rates at zero from 2008 until 2018 because people were taking loans at 0% interest and putting it in the stock market.
01:22:05.000 And also, everything has improved.
01:22:06.000 Yes, there is more income, but we all have cell phones now.
01:22:09.000 We all have air conditioning.
01:22:11.000 I have to stress this, too, about the income inequality thing.
01:22:13.000 I agree to a functional perspective that whatever your view on this is, societies collapse when there's a difference between the highest and lowest brackets.
01:22:23.000 However, what I will say is, I take this personally for one very simple reason.
01:22:29.000 There are people who say tax the rich.
01:22:31.000 What they don't understand because they are ignorant, unlearned people is that I make a lot of money because I work 16 hours a day and weekends.
01:22:40.000 And I've done so for years.
01:22:43.000 I work less now on the weekends, but there's still a little bit of business stuff that we have to do in terms of paperwork, but I don't do as many shows.
01:22:48.000 I used to work doing a morning show every day, no days off, and Tim Kest IRL Monday through Friday.
01:22:56.000 Because I work double shifts and the weekends, my income is greater, but I have to pay more tax on the extra money I'm earning.
01:23:03.000 What they are telling me is stop working.
01:23:06.000 Yep.
01:23:06.000 You're a high producer, high talent individual who generates something of value that people want and it makes a lot of money.
01:23:12.000 But the more you do it, the more we're taking from you to the point where right now, if I were to cut my workload in half, I've talked about it before.
01:23:20.000 I know people don't like, they think it's like offensive for me to say this, but if I did not do Timcast IRL, the company revenue drops by like 30%.
01:23:28.000 So I'm doing double the work for a 30% increase.
01:23:33.000 That's the system we exist in right now.
01:23:34.000 Yeah.
01:23:35.000 There was a great video where this rich guy.
01:23:37.000 Was talking to some commie, and he says to the commie, He's like, You think I should be taxed on everything over a million dollars?
01:23:44.000 And he's like, Yup.
01:23:45.000 And he goes, Okay, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do.
01:23:47.000 As soon as I make a million dollars, I shut my company down and I furlough all of my employees, and I say, Why?
01:23:51.000 I can't make any more money.
01:23:53.000 So we're done.
01:23:54.000 And there's no answer to that.
01:23:55.000 Well, there's a fundamental difference that, like I said earlier, some people believe that there should be some type of cap on what a human being is able to accomplish.
01:24:02.000 And to everybody in this room, you would find that offensive because the idea that I, you know, because everybody wants to strive, right?
01:24:09.000 They want to find themselves with success.
01:24:11.000 But the thing is, the people you're talking about have already kind of accepted that that's not going to happen to them.
01:24:16.000 So their worldview is more nihilistic and they don't see a path forward.
01:24:21.000 It's also why Hollywood and everybody else has turned billionaire into a slur.
01:24:25.000 Billionaire with a B means you can say tax the rich, and the millionaires like Mark Ruffle can say, Well, I'm not talking about me.
01:24:31.000 Talking about Jeff Bezos.
01:24:31.000 Right.
01:24:33.000 Talking about anyone who has more money than me.
01:24:35.000 And that's even worse when you think about it.
01:24:35.000 Well, no.
01:24:38.000 Did you notice Elizabeth Warren the other day?
01:24:39.000 She didn't say the millionaires, the multi millionaires.
01:24:42.000 Those are the new people that we don't like.
01:24:43.000 The thing is, millionaires are fine.
01:24:45.000 When they're talking about that too, like the Mark Rufflows of society, arguably, they don't create the same level of value that a Jeff Bezos does.
01:24:52.000 Now, you can put in, you can have a conversation about, you know, what art means to society and all that.
01:24:58.000 But if we're talking about actual dollars into the economy, then it's a very different thing.
01:25:03.000 And they've demonized that for a reason.
01:25:05.000 All of the movies now, they don't say the wealthy, they don't say the elite, they say billionaires because it's being turned into a slur.
01:25:11.000 Like you said, Pavlovian, to put it into the brains of young people.
01:25:14.000 As soon as Bernie became a millionaire, he stopped saying millionaires.
01:25:14.000 That's the enemy class.
01:25:17.000 There's millionaires and the billionaires.
01:25:18.000 Millionaires and the billionaires, now it's just the billionaires.
01:25:21.000 There's people with more than four homes.
01:25:22.000 Yeah.
01:25:23.000 There's three homes, so three homes.
01:25:24.000 That's totally fine.
01:25:25.000 So the maximum.
01:25:25.000 Totally.
01:25:26.000 Hardworking Americans have three homes, but those who have four, those are the bad guys.
01:25:30.000 Like any good communist.
01:25:32.000 Yes.
01:25:33.000 Yeah.
01:25:34.000 And we'll just lightly touch on this as we got a few minutes left before the super chats and all that.
01:25:38.000 But the new trailer for Animal Farm came out.
01:25:41.000 Yo, they edited this one intentionally to highlight as much of the communist perspective as possible.
01:25:48.000 Because, like, so I watched the new trailer for Animal Farm, and it is a selective grappling of only the key pieces where they can say, see, look, it's criticizing communism.
01:25:58.000 The whole movie, dude.
01:26:00.000 So it's a response to your critique.
01:26:02.000 Well, it's not mine.
01:26:03.000 I mean, everybody critiqued it.
01:26:05.000 Actually, let's do it.
01:26:07.000 Well, we were talking about this before the show, and I was saying it's so crazy to me that people have to sort of steal these famous pieces of literature and then desecrate them.
01:26:18.000 And Tim, you were making the point that the point isn't to have a pro communist show, it's to sort of destroy the anti communist message.
01:26:29.000 So you make a bad movie that's anti capitalist, but it destroys the memory.
01:26:36.000 Let's play a little bit of this.
01:26:36.000 Let's pull this up.
01:26:37.000 We'll talk about Animal Farm again because I'm.
01:26:39.000 I'm interested in this.
01:26:40.000 Listen to this.
01:26:41.000 Actually, I got to.
01:26:43.000 Let's get the audio going.
01:26:44.000 We all dream.
01:26:46.000 Many seasons ago, we all dreamed that one day animals would be free.
01:26:56.000 So I'm not going to play the trailer, but I'm going to make a few key points as we go through this using the footage they've released to explain this.
01:27:02.000 So the first thing you notice in the opening of the trailer is there's these guys in hazmat suits and the animals are being loaded up onto a cart.
01:27:09.000 They're going on vacation.
01:27:11.000 What is that?
01:27:12.000 We're going on vacation.
01:27:13.000 The animals are happy.
01:27:14.000 Take a look.
01:27:15.000 It says, uh, Laughter House.
01:27:17.000 That sounds awesome.
01:27:18.000 I love to laugh.
01:27:23.000 It's a slaughterhouse.
01:27:24.000 We're all gonna die!
01:27:28.000 So now you can see the animals are attacking these guys with cattle prods in hazmat suits.
01:27:33.000 The side of the truck said, Slaughterhouse by Pilkington.
01:27:37.000 These guys.
01:27:42.000 So, the first thing I want to point out for those that know the book Animal Farm, the animals were living under a drunken farmer who neglected them, and they felt that the farm could be run better.
01:27:52.000 They all discussed it and decided amongst themselves to remove the farmer from control.
01:27:58.000 In this movie, the animals are happy and they think they're going on vacation, but the corporation has acquired the animals for slaughter.
01:28:07.000 The animals have no choice but to have a revolt against the Pilkington, otherwise they will die.
01:28:15.000 Dramatically different from the critique of communism where people vote their way into a system thinking it will be better and then end up getting trapped under a boot.
01:28:22.000 This is the capitalists were going to kill them and they had no choice but to fight for their survival.
01:28:27.000 Freedom, freedom.
01:28:29.000 I see.
01:28:30.000 All animals are equal.
01:28:32.000 What could possibly go wrong?
01:28:35.000 This scene's really funny because here's a rooster stepping on what looks like a fuse in some kind of corporate concrete city.
01:28:44.000 Our experiment is.
01:28:45.000 Working all of us together.
01:28:49.000 It's time to farm again.
01:28:55.000 This milk ain't gonna drink itself.
01:28:57.000 It's supposed to be shared.
01:29:01.000 There is no supposed to anymore.
01:29:04.000 This is less than yesterday or more than tomorrow.
01:29:06.000 Depends on how you look at it.
01:29:08.000 Move along, cheap.
01:29:12.000 This is all wrong.
01:29:14.000 Can you see what's happening?
01:29:17.000 Our dream was becoming a nightmare.
01:29:21.000 It's our farm, our home.
01:29:24.000 So, what do we do?
01:29:26.000 We rebel and we start right now.
01:29:30.000 All animals are equal.
01:29:32.000 I have to fix all of this.
01:29:42.000 Notice how in this trailer, Elon Musk's mom, who is the principal villain of the whole movie, didn't even make an appearance.
01:29:48.000 I think this is because Angel Studios knew that the first trailer showing Elon.
01:29:53.000 I'm not joking.
01:29:54.000 Elon Musk's mom.
01:29:55.000 Wait, why is it May Musk?
01:29:57.000 Because it's anti capitalist.
01:30:00.000 Why wouldn't they?
01:30:01.000 So her name is Frida Pilkington, but it's literally a one for one of Elon Musk's mom driving a cyber truck.
01:30:07.000 Literally in a cyber truck.
01:30:09.000 It's a cyber truck with wheel wells.
01:30:17.000 I just want to point out a few things.
01:30:19.000 I'm not going to spoil it, but take a look at this clip from the trailer.
01:30:24.000 No one knows how it ends.
01:30:25.000 So, you see what this thing they're on is?
01:30:28.000 The grain silo with the rules floating in water, and the little pig is running towards the big pig.
01:30:35.000 I'm not going to explain what that is, but, you know.
01:30:37.000 Here's a bunch of animals running from something falling from the sky.
01:30:41.000 And here's a bunch of animals and what appears to be several hundred guys in hazmat suits running as we see.
01:30:51.000 Let's see.
01:30:52.000 Oh, look at that.
01:30:53.000 It looks like it's a dam exploding.
01:30:58.000 Indeed.
01:31:00.000 Animal Farm.
01:31:02.000 So, again, we talked about it quite a bit because the film's coming out.
01:31:06.000 And just because they are wearing Animal Farm like a skin suit, Andy Serkis has written an op ed for the Washington Examiner saying Orwell would approve because it's a modern critique.
01:31:16.000 It's a critique on the modern power infrastructure that oppresses us.
01:31:21.000 I would just say this movie is not Animal Farm, not in any meaningful way.
01:31:28.000 I think it's fair to say this because although this might be technically a spoiler, I don't think it's fair for Angel Studios or any company to.
01:31:39.000 Let me say this.
01:31:40.000 I'm not going to spoil plot elements from the movie and tell you what happens.
01:31:43.000 This is their movie, it's their product.
01:31:44.000 They want you to pay to go see it.
01:31:47.000 I'm just saying I think it's not a critique of communism, it's a critique of capitalism.
01:31:51.000 That being said, I do take issue with them using the name Animal Farm for a movie that is not Animal Farm.
01:31:56.000 Yeah, his comment about he would approve of this because it's talking about the modern structure that oppresses us just proves that Hollywood likes to take IP and use it as a strategy.
01:32:06.000 So the reason I'm explaining this is I'm now going to say something that does reveal something about the movie without telling you the plot of the movie.
01:32:13.000 But it is important so that people, again, if I came to you and said I was selling pool water and you got something different, I think that's wrong to do.
01:32:23.000 The windmill is not in the movie.
01:32:24.000 The Battle of the Windmill is not in the movie.
01:32:26.000 I'm sorry, the Battle of Cowshed is not in the movie.
01:32:29.000 Old Major is not in the movie.
01:32:30.000 A bunch of, like, I'm going to tell you this right now.
01:32:33.000 This movie is not Animal Farm.
01:32:37.000 It's just literally not Animal Farm.
01:32:38.000 It's something totally different that maybe has 10 to 15% of Animal Farm in it.
01:32:44.000 So I'm not spoiling what happens in the movie.
01:32:46.000 I'm just explaining if you're expecting to see the story of Animal Farm in this film, you will not get that.
01:32:51.000 I think it's so pernicious, too, that they're clearly marketing this to kids.
01:32:55.000 That's what I hate.
01:32:56.000 Yeah, it says ages 11 and up.
01:32:58.000 I would also say this.
01:32:59.000 While it doesn't have gore in it, there is a lot of murder.
01:33:04.000 Like, there's a little bit of that.
01:33:07.000 The original Animal Farm actually is fairly brutal.
01:33:10.000 Oh, yeah.
01:33:12.000 You know, so there are some critiques that I can say that aren't spoilers because they were already revealed in the trailer from the first go around.
01:33:18.000 But in the original Animal Farm, the chickens were upset because the pigs stole their eggs and then sold them off to traders.
01:33:26.000 In the first Animal Farm trailer, the chickens are laying eggs and then handing them off intentionally.
01:33:31.000 So, there is something there that is relevant to the critique of capitalism, which you will find out if you see the movie.
01:33:36.000 Well, maybe when I had this discussion with the Harmon brothers, they won't care if I talk more in depth.
01:33:41.000 Because I will say this I'm being very respectful in not wanting to spoil key plot elements that they, or I shouldn't say they, because Angel Studios just bought distribution, but Andy Serkis added to the film, which is such a dramatic deviation.
01:33:54.000 Again, I'll say this in the original Animal Farm, the chickens have their eggs stolen from them.
01:33:58.000 These are their children by the state who profits off them.
01:34:01.000 And when the chickens complain that their eggs are being stolen, they're executed.
01:34:04.000 Not in the movie.
01:34:06.000 So, you are not getting Animal Farm, whatever this movie is.
01:34:08.000 No.
01:34:09.000 And to be honest with you, at least watching that, it does seem like they're trying to misdirect the potential audience.
01:34:17.000 I think the movie is about capitalism is oppressive and it will kill you, and you have no choice but to fight back by any means necessary.
01:34:26.000 And in the end, if you kill a bunch of people, it's acceptable because this is what must be done.
01:34:31.000 That's the message of the film.
01:34:33.000 Yes.
01:34:33.000 Sort of tangentially related.
01:34:36.000 But I have been really alarmed.
01:34:37.000 Like in some of the new legislation, there's all these provisions.
01:34:40.000 Again, I'm saying this is tangentially related, it's related to farm animals that basically allows us to be very abusive to animals and pigs in particular.
01:34:50.000 Well, maybe they read Animal Farm, they think pigs are bad.
01:34:53.000 So, no, anyway, anyway, but I've been kind of alarmed.
01:34:57.000 I feel like I liked one photo about that.
01:34:59.000 Now my algorithm is all like animals being abused on farms.
01:35:01.000 Oh my gosh.
01:35:02.000 I will say the.
01:35:03.000 Anyway, I'm glad I know though.
01:35:05.000 If, you know, so we're scheduling the Harmon Brothers to have a discussion about Animal Farm, which means.
01:35:10.000 Any meaningful discussion will involve in depth discussion on what's in the movie.
01:35:15.000 But I would say, outside of that, come May 1st, I am going to go off on this thing.
01:35:21.000 I am being very nice to Angel because Angel's done some good work.
01:35:24.000 And just because they have some missteps doesn't mean you throw them out with the bathwater, you know what I mean?
01:35:28.000 So they can have a bad movie, that's fine.
01:35:30.000 We'll debate it and then they can make better movies.
01:35:32.000 I mean, probably so many people are going to have seen this movie and never have read the book.
01:35:36.000 Indeed.
01:35:37.000 Yeah, that's the point.
01:35:38.000 Now, there are some people on X, they've been asking around trying to find guild members who voted after watching the film.
01:35:45.000 And the responses I've seen on X, nobody has said, I watched it and liked it.
01:35:50.000 They're all saying, the few comments I saw were people saying, I was asked by a message, would you want to see an adaptation of Animal Farm?
01:35:57.000 And said, Yes.
01:35:58.000 That was it.
01:35:59.000 Yeah.
01:36:00.000 So they weren't given a chance to screen it ahead of time to see if it fit in with their values.
01:36:04.000 It's just that these anecdotes on X, I don't know if it means they never, you know, as a big picture.
01:36:10.000 Yeah, if you've read the book, you're going to see what's going to be Animal Farm.
01:36:13.000 What is in the book?
01:36:14.000 And of course, who wouldn't want to see that on Facebook?
01:36:16.000 I'm making a remake of Terminator.
01:36:18.000 It's about an Easter bunny that has lost his eggs and has to go find them.
01:36:23.000 And it's called Terminator because Elon Musk's mom is trying to abort the bunny eggs.
01:36:29.000 Rewatched Terminator 1 and 2 over the weekend.
01:36:32.000 Was it my version that I just made up?
01:36:34.000 Not your version.
01:36:35.000 No.
01:36:35.000 Terminator 1 is still better than Terminator 2.
01:36:35.000 No.
01:36:37.000 I don't care what it is.
01:36:39.000 You know what I will say is really annoying about movies?
01:36:41.000 It's like I remember when Pirates of the Caribbean 2 came out and the commercials were like, it's the number one movie in America.
01:36:46.000 I said, no.
01:36:47.000 Pirates of the Caribbean 1 is the number one movie in America.
01:36:50.000 And everybody went to see part two because one was good and two sucked.
01:36:54.000 And then, like, don't take my word for it.
01:36:55.000 Look at the Rotten Tomatoes.
01:36:56.000 Look at the review scores.
01:36:58.000 When they say that, first one, and then they go, and then, like, what was it?
01:37:02.000 The last one did really well.
01:37:03.000 Dead Men Tell No Tales?
01:37:04.000 No, no, no.
01:37:05.000 That was the third of six, I think.
01:37:08.000 And they were like, let's do a female reboot.
01:37:10.000 That's still theoretically supposed to happen.
01:37:13.000 No, no, just stop.
01:37:14.000 All female Ghostbusters.
01:37:15.000 All female Ghostbusters.
01:37:17.000 They latch onto one thing that works, and they're like, we're going to do this and run it into the ground.
01:37:22.000 Hold on.
01:37:23.000 I'm in favor of all female pirates and all female Ghostbusters.
01:37:29.000 They only made one mistake with all female Ghostbusters the boobs weren't big enough and busting out of their shirts enough.
01:37:34.000 And I'm kidding, but the truth is the problem, like, you can make a movie that will sell if the women are like busty and hot.
01:37:44.000 That's just true.
01:37:45.000 You know what I mean?
01:37:46.000 Like, why 2019 Charlie's Angels didn't sell because they wouldn't sell sex with it.
01:37:51.000 They sold it as anti male.
01:37:52.000 Yeah, who wants to watch that?
01:37:54.000 Yeah.
01:37:55.000 It's not fun.
01:37:56.000 They want to see James Bond, like men and women like watching James Bond.
01:38:00.000 Because he's a cool, confident hero.
01:38:00.000 Why?
01:38:03.000 And so, guys, what is it?
01:38:04.000 Women want to be with him, men want to be him.
01:38:06.000 Or men want to be him, women want to be with him.
01:38:08.000 But now they're like, nah, nah, make, what do they want to do?
01:38:10.000 They want James Bond a black woman?
01:38:12.000 I don't think that's going to happen.
01:38:12.000 That's not actually going to happen.
01:38:13.000 No, but they did talk about doing that.
01:38:14.000 What was the actress's name they were thinking of getting?
01:38:17.000 Lashana Lynch.
01:38:18.000 Yeah.
01:38:18.000 I don't think that's not what happened.
01:38:20.000 She showed up in the last one as like another.
01:38:23.000 They thought, yes.
01:38:24.000 They were going to do that.
01:38:25.000 That's engagement farming on X that people are doing.
01:38:29.000 Another kind of animal farming.
01:38:29.000 I do think.
01:38:30.000 Yeah.
01:38:30.000 There are a lot of people that are mad because they discussed Idris Elba as James Bond.
01:38:34.000 I think that'd be fantastic.
01:38:35.000 I think he's great.
01:38:36.000 Yeah, I like him.
01:38:36.000 Too old.
01:38:37.000 That's true.
01:38:37.000 He is too old.
01:38:38.000 He is too old.
01:38:38.000 But most people were concerned because they're like, no, James Bond is supposed to be the quintessential Englishman.
01:38:42.000 And I'm like, fair point, fair point.
01:38:44.000 I'm not going to argue with that.
01:38:45.000 I just think Idris Elba is a great action movie star.
01:38:47.000 I tend to have, like, I have less of a problem with race swaps than a lot of other people as long as they don't turn race into a conversation about the story, which fundamentally is the character.
01:38:57.000 Well, Harry Potter.
01:38:58.000 I did a video on it today.
01:39:00.000 Well, I've done like three, but yeah, like.
01:39:02.000 But that's.
01:39:02.000 Blacks.
01:39:03.000 Fundamentally changes not just him, but it changes everything James Potter's motivation.
01:39:07.000 It's like I was trying to explain to somebody, I said, You do not understand that to the outside world, a schoolyard bully is not looked at the same as a racist bully, even if that racist bully is underage, right?
01:39:19.000 It's looked at as a shortcoming of both your upbringing from your family.
01:39:24.000 How about Hermione being mixed race and being called the mudblood?
01:39:28.000 There's a whole new meaning to the white blonde kid calling the mixed race girl the mudblood.
01:39:32.000 I read an article today, I'm not even kidding you, from comic book resources that says it's a good thing.
01:39:36.000 Thing they're making Snape black because it makes more sense for him to be an outcast because he's black.
01:39:41.000 Where they literally said, they said, like, you can't, they basically, it basically says, you cannot understand what it means to truly be an outcast unless you are a minority.
01:39:51.000 So they want that.
01:39:52.000 There's the famous line in Harry Potter where Lily asks James why he's picking on Snape and she says, Is there something about him?
01:39:59.000 He says, It's nothing about him, it's just that he exists, which means a whole lot different when it's coming, when he's pointing out a black guy.
01:40:05.000 They're also like in the first one when Harry suspects that Snape is stolen.
01:40:10.000 Yeah.
01:40:11.000 And he's like, I don't know what it is about him.
01:40:13.000 I just think he's a thief.
01:40:15.000 Harry, why do you keep thinking that guy's trying to kill you?
01:40:17.000 There's something about him.
01:40:19.000 Yeah.
01:40:20.000 And when the boggart is in the wardrobe and pops out and scares the crap out of Neville.
01:40:24.000 Yeah.
01:40:27.000 The funny thing about all of that is, it's proof that J.K. Rowling does literally agree with them on everything except for trans issues because J.K. Rowling is a progressive.
01:40:36.000 Yeah, he should have made Snape a woman, a trans woman.
01:40:38.000 That would have been great.
01:40:38.000 There you go.
01:40:39.000 A black trans woman.
01:40:40.000 He could have done that.
01:40:41.000 A disabled black trans woman lesbian.
01:40:43.000 Then she would have been like, that's the ultimate magic.
01:40:46.000 There's even worse stuff going on right now.
01:40:47.000 So there's articles written or there's quotes coming out from the writers and the production designers who seem to want to speed run everybody hating this.
01:40:55.000 One says that.
01:40:57.000 The show has been produced around the idea of naturalism, which, if you look into naturalism, is the idea that, you know, supernatural only exists through, you know, through scientific order.
01:41:09.000 Oh, they're doing one of these?
01:41:10.000 So, which is why they're using all like earth tones and colors.
01:41:10.000 Yes.
01:41:15.000 Are they trying to science magic?
01:41:17.000 Like they're trying to be a lot of.
01:41:19.000 So, the production designer seems to, they could just be doing word salad.
01:41:23.000 But, you know, under their idea, you know, that science would be able to explain magic, is that actually what's going to show up in the show?
01:41:29.000 So, are you saying that the, It's going to be bad.
01:41:29.000 No, probably not.
01:41:31.000 Everyone is expecting it.
01:41:32.000 So they're like, let's just generate the hate now.
01:41:34.000 I mean, I don't.
01:41:35.000 You're not going to watch it.
01:41:36.000 A lot of people don't even believe that it's going to go seven seasons.
01:41:38.000 Like, they don't think they'll get all of it.
01:41:40.000 Also, it's not going to be every year.
01:41:42.000 It's going to be at least every couple of years.
01:41:44.000 I'm going to say this right now.
01:41:47.000 I am not going to.
01:41:48.000 I'm a childhood Harry Potter fan.
01:41:51.000 Got every book when they.
01:41:52.000 The first book I was introduced to after Dart I came out is on paperback.
01:41:57.000 Second book comes out, I bought it right away.
01:41:58.000 Third book, bought it right away.
01:41:59.000 Every book after that, I was a huge fan.
01:42:00.000 I grew up.
01:42:01.000 Like, we were in that perfect age range where you grew up as the themes of the book.
01:42:01.000 With it too.
01:42:05.000 I was, I think I was 21 when the seventh book came out.
01:42:07.000 So I was a man.
01:42:08.000 I was like, I got to get Harry Potter.
01:42:10.000 And the movies, I was like, man, with the first movie, was it 2000 or whatever?
01:42:10.000 And I loved it.
01:42:15.000 2001.
01:42:15.000 2001.
01:42:16.000 I think I was 14 and I was like, we have to go see Harry Potter.
01:42:18.000 I was like, super excited for it.
01:42:20.000 And I will not watch this stupidity.
01:42:24.000 Like, I don't like that they're adding these racial overtones to Snape's character.
01:42:30.000 Alan Rickman, Nailed it.
01:42:32.000 I understand that there were certain parts, there's a lot of parts of the books that were omitted.
01:42:36.000 Fair.
01:42:37.000 But when my kid is old enough to watch movies, she's watching the original films and reading the books.
01:42:43.000 She's not going to watch this HBO Abomination garbage.
01:42:45.000 So, you know, more power to them.
01:42:48.000 If they want to make it, good luck.
01:42:50.000 Part of me emotionally is like, I hope they fail for doing this.
01:42:53.000 But at the same time, people can like what they like.
01:42:55.000 Now Paramount is going to own Warner Brothers.
01:42:57.000 So maybe they'll make it like pro MAGA and they'll make like Trump into Snape.
01:43:01.000 It puts Snape in a MAGA hat so that you can't get mad.
01:43:03.000 It's like, we made him black, but he's also a trusted one.
01:43:05.000 A sporting hat is a MAGA hat?
01:43:08.000 And it talks like this.
01:43:09.000 Trump's voice inside the syndicate.
01:43:12.000 Gryffindor, Harry, you'd be great in Slytherin.
01:43:15.000 I'm telling you, you'd be the best.
01:43:17.000 It's a good house.
01:43:19.000 He's like, but I don't want to be in Slytherin.
01:43:21.000 Well, okay, fine.
01:43:23.000 Be a baby.
01:43:24.000 Go to Gryffindor.
01:43:24.000 Be a baby.
01:43:26.000 That would be great.
01:43:27.000 Someone should make that.
01:43:28.000 The MAGA.
01:43:29.000 I can do it.
01:43:32.000 It's Trump.
01:43:33.000 That would be great.
01:43:36.000 I know someone out there can do it.
01:43:37.000 Someone should make that.
01:43:39.000 I need to figure out how to do that.
01:43:40.000 I wonder if C Dance can do that.
01:43:42.000 I bet it can.
01:43:43.000 Venice has C Dance on it right now.
01:43:45.000 Let me see if I can make that.
01:43:47.000 It's probably already been made.
01:43:48.000 I bet you it's done.
01:43:49.000 I doubt it's done.
01:43:50.000 No, come on.
01:43:50.000 It's just an obvious joke.
01:43:51.000 Yeah.
01:43:52.000 A MAGA sorting hat.
01:43:54.000 Where is this?
01:43:54.000 How do you.
01:43:57.000 I'm going to try and figure out how to do this on Venice.
01:43:59.000 Somebody can do like Marco Rubio realizing he's got to be Snape.
01:44:02.000 Oh, that's a good one.
01:44:06.000 Sea Dance 2.
01:44:09.000 Wait, what?
01:44:10.000 Whoa!
01:44:11.000 They banned Sea Dance in the United States?
01:44:13.000 Yeah, you didn't see that.
01:44:14.000 What is Sea Dance?
01:44:15.000 Like very recently.
01:44:16.000 Yeah, like the other day.
01:44:17.000 Yeah.
01:44:18.000 So we do promos for Venice AI, and I just used it last week.
01:44:22.000 Yeah.
01:44:23.000 Wow.
01:44:27.000 Shocking.
01:44:28.000 Yeah, just a thing popped up saying, I know.
01:44:31.000 I mean, it takes a lot of energy.
01:44:31.000 Yeah.
01:44:34.000 Yeah.
01:44:34.000 Wow.
01:44:35.000 To run these videos.
01:44:36.000 Crazy.
01:44:37.000 All right, everybody.
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01:46:22.000 Don't take advice from guys on the internet unless they're a doctor.
01:46:25.000 But let's grab your rants and super chats and see what's going on.
01:46:29.000 St. Miles says, Who do you think blinked first?
01:46:32.000 US, Iran, andor other nations.
01:46:34.000 I actually wonder if this was not the play for the whole get go.
01:46:39.000 I don't know that it's going to hold off.
01:46:41.000 If this succeeds, this might have been the plan.
01:46:44.000 Trump doesn't, it's not possible to have regime change in, like, I mean, fundamentally.
01:46:51.000 Obviously, you can kill their leaders, but other people come in.
01:46:54.000 You need boots on the ground to actually get rid of the structures of their fundamentalist government.
01:46:59.000 I don't know if Trump ever thought that would be possible because it's 90 million people, it's a massive country.
01:47:05.000 I wonder if this is the, Trump threatens annihilation, offers them the off ramp.
01:47:10.000 They have no choice but to accept it.
01:47:12.000 And Trump did a big ask the whole time.
01:47:14.000 Now, there's rumors.
01:47:15.000 That Iran is demanding that they enrich uranium if there's going to be a ceasefire, which is a non starter.
01:47:21.000 So we'll see how this one plays out.
01:47:23.000 It may not work out well, but we're crossing our fingers, and I'm not going to root against a ceasefire.
01:47:29.000 We don't know what entirely is in the 10 point plan.
01:47:34.000 Well, they've got the general, you know, they've released the generally.
01:47:39.000 Not, yeah, I guess not in the last hour.
01:47:42.000 All right.
01:47:42.000 HS Disturbed says IRGC is considering this a win.
01:47:45.000 Seems that they were about to call his bluff and he didn't want to make good on his threats.
01:47:48.000 I think both sides want to make it look like they've won.
01:47:48.000 I disagree.
01:47:51.000 So Trump killed all of their leadership.
01:47:54.000 The IRGC can claim everything they want.
01:47:56.000 Trump blew up the Ayatollah.
01:47:57.000 Like, I'm sorry, there's no reality where Iran wins, it just doesn't.
01:48:01.000 Trump may not get the guaranteed Grand Slam victory of taking the control of the entirety of the landmass, but Trump blew up like 40 government officials.
01:48:12.000 So he fried them.
01:48:14.000 Yeah.
01:48:15.000 I'll put it this way if you get into a fight with somebody and he punches you in the face 15 times, but you threaten to kill a kid, so he stops punching you, I'm not going to call that you winning.
01:48:26.000 I'm going to be like, okay, the fight's over, but man, he messed you up.
01:48:29.000 Iran lost their senior leadership, most of their Navy, at least half of their missile launchers.
01:48:34.000 Thousands of security personnel, bridges and rail lines, steel and petrochemical plants, their ability to deter their nuclear infrastructure, their air defenses, and the ability to use Dubai as a sanctioned evasion hub for the possibility of charging trolls for merchant shipping on the Strait of Hormuz.
01:48:50.000 And that makes it a failure, right?
01:48:52.000 I also think they're going to take us a lot more seriously when we need to make a deal.
01:48:57.000 Yeah, maybe.
01:48:58.000 Hopefully.
01:48:59.000 I mean, look, this is still, you know, there's actual like missiles still flying.
01:49:06.000 We'll see if the ceasefire holds.
01:49:08.000 I'm hoping that it does.
01:49:11.000 If I understand correctly, there was a 10 point plan released, but that was BS.
01:49:17.000 Trump said on Truth Social that it was not an actual outline or anything, that they didn't come to that kind of agreement and that they're going to work on it over the next two weeks.
01:49:27.000 So we'll see.
01:49:29.000 I don't try to predict what's going to happen, but I do want it to be over.
01:49:33.000 And I do think that regardless of what anyone says, like, Iran got the absolute hell knocked out of them.
01:49:41.000 And they don't have the ability to intimidate the other countries in the Gulf the same way they did before.
01:49:48.000 So.
01:49:49.000 FJB Newsom says Who the F made that red chair?
01:49:52.000 Were they drunk when they placed the buttons?
01:49:54.000 LOL.
01:49:54.000 Is that Ian's?
01:49:56.000 The answer is China and probably.
01:50:01.000 What's wrong with the buttons, though?
01:50:02.000 They're not misaligned, it's made by a machine.
01:50:04.000 I think it might just look that way because the angle of.
01:50:06.000 The button definitely looks higher than that one.
01:50:09.000 It's because it's at an angle, bro.
01:50:11.000 Like it's curved.
01:50:13.000 It is a curved chair, not a flat back.
01:50:17.000 I can see it from here.
01:50:18.000 It looks pretty good to me.
01:50:19.000 Yeah.
01:50:20.000 I think that's an optical illusion.
01:50:21.000 You're not a flat earther.
01:50:22.000 You're a flat chairer?
01:50:23.000 Yes.
01:50:24.000 That's exactly right.
01:50:26.000 Flat chair.
01:50:27.000 Lava Bear says DS9, season 7, episode 16, Intern Arma Enum Silent Legos is the second best episode of the series, right behind In the Pale Moonlight.
01:50:37.000 What Sloan says to Bashir at the end of this episode is a gut punch.
01:50:42.000 Um.
01:50:43.000 I will also stress, I just watched the episode of TNG, which is why am I forgetting the name of this one?
01:50:55.000 I refuse to ask.
01:50:57.000 It was Inner Light, which is considered to be one of the greatest episodes of television ever made.
01:51:03.000 Probably one of the best episodes of Star Trek The Next Generation, if not the best.
01:51:07.000 Have you ever seen it?
01:51:07.000 You know which one that is?
01:51:09.000 Man, it's such a crazy story.
01:51:13.000 So they come across a star system that they're investigating that went nova.
01:51:18.000 The sun went nova a thousand years ago, wiping out all life on the planets surrounding it.
01:51:22.000 And a probe approaches the Enterprise.
01:51:25.000 And then blasts Captain Picard with a beam of some sort, some kind of energy, which causes him to collapse.
01:51:33.000 What happens is this probe is broadcasting an experience, memories into his mind, and he lives in the span of 25 minutes, 30 years on their planet.
01:51:44.000 And he has a family and he has kids and he learns to play the flute.
01:51:48.000 And then after 30 years of living this life, they reveal to him that the probe was created because it was a civilization.
01:51:57.000 About on par with modern Earth, that knew that they were going to all die and go extinct.
01:52:02.000 So, they created the probe as a way to transmit a history of their people to someone 30 years of experience on their planet.
01:52:09.000 And it's just brutally sad.
01:52:10.000 And then what happens is Picard wakes up, the probe deactivates, they bring it in, and inside of it, stored for a thousand years, is a flute that they broadcast into Picard's brain.
01:52:20.000 It's actually much better when you watch it because he has a family and he has kids and he has grandkids and he lives this life.
01:52:28.000 And then he has to watch them explain that they've died a thousand years ago.
01:52:32.000 Sprudal.
01:52:33.000 Such a sad thing.
01:52:34.000 It's like it captures that sadness of apocalypse, you know?
01:52:37.000 Great TV show.
01:52:38.000 Yeah, if there's an apocalypse, I don't want to be here after.
01:52:42.000 All these people building these bombshells, I'm like, I don't want to be the only one left.
01:52:46.000 I got a little place.
01:52:47.000 So you'll run towards the nuke.
01:52:49.000 Yeah.
01:52:50.000 Get vaporized.
01:52:52.000 Let's grab some more from the.
01:52:54.000 Maybe not the time for nuclear jokes, but yes.
01:52:57.000 It's fine.
01:52:58.000 Nuclear wessels.
01:53:00.000 Something happened.
01:53:01.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says Tim, I'm so pissed right now.
01:53:04.000 I was so mad Trump was going to bomb Iran, but then Trump didn't bomb Iran, but now he's weak for not bombing Iran.
01:53:11.000 What?
01:53:13.000 It's just people that are just.
01:53:14.000 These liberals are making fun of Trump.
01:53:16.000 Well, it's not just me.
01:53:16.000 It's like.
01:53:18.000 I'm just saying, like, the liberals are like, ha ha.
01:53:21.000 Like, why are you.
01:53:22.000 What?
01:53:22.000 Maybe taco can mean Trump always cools off.
01:53:25.000 That way he's not.
01:53:26.000 Yeah.
01:53:27.000 Trump always cools off.
01:53:28.000 It is Taco Tuesday.
01:53:29.000 Yeah.
01:53:30.000 I'm going to tweet that.
01:53:31.000 I'm going to tag you in it.
01:53:32.000 That's a good one.
01:53:33.000 That's a great one.
01:53:34.000 Trump always cools off.
01:53:36.000 Trump always cools off.
01:53:36.000 There you go.
01:53:39.000 I mean, he did bomb one bridge.
01:53:41.000 It's bombing some infrastructure.
01:53:43.000 So.
01:53:46.000 Not weak.
01:53:47.000 No, I know.
01:53:48.000 I mean, if he were weak, he wouldn't have struck in the first place.
01:53:48.000 No.
01:53:48.000 No?
01:53:52.000 You know, I mean, and it was a massive.
01:53:52.000 Oh, yeah.
01:53:56.000 Oh, the liberals won Wisconsin, the Supreme Court.
01:53:59.000 Oh, what?
01:54:01.000 Liberal justice won the Supreme Court.
01:54:03.000 Great news.
01:54:04.000 Yep.
01:54:05.000 Not going there anytime.
01:54:06.000 They already had a liberal control, I guess.
01:54:07.000 Yeah.
01:54:09.000 All right.
01:54:11.000 Jess Gibson says longtime listener of Timcast reporting from Niku to continue the Timcast baby tradition.
01:54:17.000 We are so grateful to welcome our third baby boy.
01:54:20.000 Does that say Coulter?
01:54:22.000 Coulter Lee Gibson at just 33 weeks and three pounds.
01:54:26.000 Wow.
01:54:27.000 Wow.
01:54:27.000 I hope for the best.
01:54:28.000 I think it should be good, right?
01:54:29.000 Yeah.
01:54:30.000 I mean,.
01:54:30.000 Children, three, three weeks, not too early.
01:54:32.000 It's, yeah, it's not, it's not like scary early, but he'll probably be in the NICU for, you know, a couple weeks.
01:54:39.000 Yeah.
01:54:41.000 Let's see.
01:54:41.000 But congratulations.
01:54:43.000 Let's say, uh, A Barnes says, Mamdani is an anagram for madman.
01:54:51.000 Oh, for I, madman.
01:54:54.000 Mamdani.
01:54:55.000 Yep.
01:54:56.000 It's funny.
01:54:59.000 Yep.
01:55:00.000 I'm Madman.
01:55:01.000 There you go.
01:55:03.000 Perfect.
01:55:04.000 Yeah, we have our last question.
01:55:04.000 Nominative determinism.
01:55:05.000 That's the idea that your name determines your fate.
01:55:09.000 Yeah.
01:55:09.000 Oh, really?
01:55:10.000 Nominative determinism.
01:55:12.000 Well, let's see.
01:55:14.000 Just Leave Me Alone says Tim, I'm 61 years old.
01:55:16.000 I've been watching you for eight years.
01:55:17.000 I voted for Trump six times, including primaries.
01:55:19.000 You piss me off sometimes, but I still love you.
01:55:22.000 I trust this president.
01:55:23.000 See, that's what I'm talking about.
01:55:25.000 All of these people are grifting, right?
01:55:26.000 These people who are on the right, who are now acting like Trump is doing everything wrong, have just exposed themselves.
01:55:33.000 You're like.
01:55:35.000 What did I say when Trump launched the war with Iran?
01:55:37.000 I said, I would not vote for this.
01:55:38.000 I would not support it.
01:55:39.000 But the effective thing to do with Trump is try and keep one hand on the steering wheel, not just spit in his face and tell me he's an idiot.
01:55:45.000 If we want to actually succeed, we have to try and negotiate.
01:55:49.000 The people that are attacking Trump when he did this, it's like, okay, well, Trump's going to turn on you.
01:55:54.000 And now that he's done what they wanted, they're still attacking him.
01:55:56.000 It shows they never were operating in good faith.
01:55:58.000 I also do think there's so much arrogance in commenting on this because the fact of the matter is we don't have all of the intelligence, we don't have all of the briefings.
01:56:07.000 That he has, and I also will say, I feel like this is the new op.
01:56:11.000 This is the new thing.
01:56:12.000 I feel like every day there's some sort of story about some person who called into C SPAN or someone who said on the radio that they voted for Trump three times, but somehow this is a bridge too far, right?
01:56:23.000 It's like no matter what he did, oh, I supported Trump, but this I no longer support.
01:56:27.000 I'm like, they're like, I thought he was guilty about the Epstein stuff, but this is just a bridge too far.
01:56:33.000 I'm like, it's like, there's so many people out there who, like, that is their shtick.
01:56:38.000 They call it whatever.
01:56:39.000 I think so.
01:56:39.000 But it's like such an op.
01:56:40.000 It's also just really hard now.
01:56:42.000 Like, you're taking all this information in secondhand.
01:56:46.000 You know, they're like, on one hand, they're saying we blew up a girls' school.
01:56:50.000 On the other hand, they're saying that they killed 40,000 protesters.
01:56:53.000 Their own government killed 40,000 protesters.
01:56:55.000 And then somebody says, oh, you believe that number?
01:56:57.000 So, what does it really matter if you don't know for a fact whether any of this happened?
01:57:02.000 The sad fact of the matter is, guys, you, I, everyone is not really programmed to care about everything that's going on everywhere in the world.
01:57:10.000 You could make the argument that you care about this because it will have severe consequences for your homeland, given that your children may be sent off to war.
01:57:19.000 But in general, when all you do is take in the news all day and take in nothing but bad news and the violence and the crime and the evils of the world, you weren't programmed to deal with that.
01:57:30.000 Was it Mary who thinks that universal literacy was a bad idea?
01:57:35.000 Yes.
01:57:35.000 And that the printing press was the downfall of society.
01:57:39.000 Yeah, she was saying something like.
01:57:41.000 People were too stupid to understand what they were reading, and now they think they know what they're reading, but they don't.
01:57:46.000 So now they're voting for dumb things.
01:57:48.000 Especially the Dunning Kruger effect like, the dumber you are, the more you think you know.
01:57:52.000 Well, it's like there is the trope of stupid people are very confident, smart people are very doubtful.
01:57:57.000 Dunning Kruger is that people are too stupid to know they're stupid.
01:57:59.000 Yeah.
01:58:00.000 That's the simple way to explain it.
01:58:02.000 Stupid people are overconfident because they're not smart enough to understand why they're stupid.
01:58:02.000 Yeah.
01:58:05.000 But also, like, that's even more sure on Twitter because you can't post, like, your, oh, I think maybe this kind of story.
01:58:13.000 You have to say it with your whole chest.
01:58:15.000 And say, this is what's true because otherwise nobody cares.
01:58:20.000 Nuance isn't allowed on Twitter.
01:58:22.000 When I see people on the left and the right antagonizing for World War III, I'm just like, maybe we should have censorship.
01:58:29.000 Just ban all of them and then only the enlightened few.
01:58:32.000 I'm kidding, by the way.
01:58:34.000 But certainly these people have explained the problems with leftist ideology.
01:58:39.000 But on the right, it's not even a left or right ideology, it's tribal psychotic grifterism.
01:58:45.000 It's not a left or right thing.
01:58:47.000 But it's also like, as a matter of personal responsibility, you should want yourself and those around you to be smart enough to be able to see through that stuff.
01:58:54.000 Yeah, I've been thinking so much about networks.
01:58:57.000 Like, the mainstream media was extremely flawed.
01:59:01.000 But now, I don't know if this new system with all these podcast hosts is like that much more.
01:59:06.000 That's my conspiracy.
01:59:07.000 I think this is all one big op to get everybody to just go back to the news.
01:59:11.000 Like, you know what?
01:59:12.000 The hell with it.
01:59:12.000 I'm going back to the dude in the suit sitting behind the monitor.
01:59:15.000 I'm just going to trust the news.
01:59:17.000 That's what I was saying.
01:59:17.000 I agree.
01:59:18.000 Candace is Pied Pipering people into psychosis.
01:59:21.000 And I'm, you know, back in December, I met a bunch of, there were some women that I had met.
01:59:27.000 They're moderate libs.
01:59:28.000 I was in Vegas.
01:59:29.000 They weren't super political, but they loved watching Candace.
01:59:32.000 Why?
01:59:33.000 Yeah.
01:59:33.000 Blake Lively.
01:59:34.000 They're talking about Blake Lively, and all of a sudden, women started watching.
01:59:37.000 Then Brigitte Macron, and then Charlie Kirk.
01:59:39.000 And now they're, now this woman's going like, I think Israel's behind everything.
01:59:42.000 And I'm like, you're not a political person.
01:59:44.000 You don't know anything about Israel, but why are you saying this?
01:59:46.000 She watches Candace.
01:59:47.000 So it feels very op-e to me, especially when she attacked Nick Shirley.
01:59:52.000 Like, come on, attacking Nick Shirley outright screams disinformation campaign.
01:59:58.000 Nick Shirley's just a young guy who went and filmed stuff.
02:00:01.000 She dug up an old video of his eight months ago.
02:00:04.000 And then claimed it was impossible that he was able to actually interview Brazilian gangs.
02:00:09.000 This was, look, if someone asked me to discredit somebody, I'd say, here's how you do it find something that regular people can't relate to, use that and claim it's fake news, and use that to discredit his future works.
02:00:22.000 The idea is the average person in America doesn't know what a favela is like.
02:00:26.000 So you look through his footage and you say, there is no way the average person will be able to tell me I'm wrong about this.
02:00:32.000 You grab that video, you show it, and then say, this is so stupid, it's fake.
02:00:36.000 This is dumb.
02:00:37.000 I'm so sick of dumb.
02:00:38.000 You don't just go to Brazilian gangs and interview them.
02:00:40.000 I'm sorry.
02:00:42.000 Actually, that's literally how you do it.
02:00:43.000 I've done that.
02:00:43.000 I mean, that's crazy.
02:00:45.000 I've done it.
02:00:45.000 I've done it on three occasions.
02:00:47.000 So she's saying something where if you trust her, she must be right because it seems insane you'd walk up to a Brazilian gang member, but that's literally what you do.
02:00:57.000 You go to the favela, you ask around and say, I'm a reporter and I wanted to see if there's any of the gang members that wanted to do an interview.
02:01:02.000 And they'll go, let me ask somebody.
02:01:04.000 They're not going to just murder you.
02:01:05.000 They'll tell you, nah, they said no cameras.
02:01:07.000 You'll go, okay, and you'll leave.
02:01:08.000 But it turns out, Many of these gangs want attention.
02:01:10.000 They want people to know.
02:01:12.000 They want to say, hey, we're the good guys here.
02:01:13.000 The gangs in the favelas view themselves as de facto government.
02:01:17.000 They think they're good guys maintaining peace and order where the government has abandoned them.
02:01:22.000 And so they say, yes, I'll do an interview with you.
02:01:24.000 So she lies about Nick Shirley to discredit him.
02:01:26.000 And I'm just like, okay, there's no way this is real.
02:01:28.000 Like, who in their right mind turns on Nick Shirley?
02:01:31.000 Yeah.
02:01:31.000 He didn't do anything.
02:01:32.000 Weird.
02:01:34.000 You made life difficult for a lot of people in Minnesota.
02:01:36.000 A lot of fraudsters got real mad.
02:01:37.000 A lot of Democrats got real mad.
02:01:39.000 You made a lot of people mad.
02:01:42.000 All right.
02:01:43.000 Daniel Schultz says, Sucks how it started, scary how it could have ended.
02:01:47.000 We can be the little kid who gives the bully his lunch money to stay away or get in the bully's face and say, Step up or step off.
02:01:54.000 Peace through strength, not weakness.
02:01:56.000 Iran blinked.
02:01:57.000 I don't know that they blink so much as Trump killed like 40 of their governmental staff.
02:01:57.000 That simple.
02:02:02.000 So, like.
02:02:02.000 Yeah.
02:02:03.000 The U.S. did.
02:02:04.000 And we have massive damage to Iran in this campaign.
02:02:07.000 Massive damage.
02:02:08.000 So, no matter what anyone says, Iran's ability to make war has been significantly affected.
02:02:14.000 They don't have a navy anymore.
02:02:16.000 Their navy now is all small boats.
02:02:18.000 That's it.
02:02:21.000 Any sizable craft that they had are all gone.
02:02:24.000 They sunk a submarine with artillery.
02:02:28.000 The United States sunk a submarine with an artillery shot.
02:02:31.000 I do think, I mean, I was so aware of in January all of the protesters who were getting slaughtered, and I was so hopeful that.
02:02:39.000 There would internally be regime change that the Iranian people would be able to rise up.
02:02:43.000 It doesn't seem like that's going to happen.
02:02:45.000 And I kind of feel like in this day and age with so much surveillance, is it possible to have a sort of uprising or a revolution?
02:02:53.000 It is.
02:02:55.000 Countries exist only on the confidence of the people.
02:02:57.000 So even with surveillance, if there's a mass ripple breaking confidence, then your country ceases to exist.
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02:06:26.000 The Pro Doping Olympics.
02:06:28.000 Hey, this is going to be fun.
02:06:30.000 The enhanced games valued at $1.2 billion before a single race.
02:06:35.000 We've all talked about this the idea where everyone just gets jacked up on goofballs and then we just have monsters taking crazy drugs just going for it.
02:06:45.000 What say y'all?
02:06:47.000 When they stopped or when they started testing for steroids in baseball, in the MLB, it ruined baseball.
02:06:58.000 Everybody wants to see gigantic.
02:07:00.000 Dude smashed the baseball out of the park.
02:07:04.000 Go watch the 1999 home run derby.
02:07:07.000 Yes.
02:07:08.000 Mark McGuire hits 13 home runs in the first round, and he is just attacking a piece of bubble gum.
02:07:14.000 It is.
02:07:16.000 His veins are like.
02:07:17.000 That's what baseball should be.
02:07:19.000 Also, you know, given the fact that Ken Griffey Jr., who in my opinion is my favorite baseball player of all time, the fact that he never got caught up in a steroid scandal just makes those players that didn't.
02:07:30.000 Even more impressive.
02:07:31.000 Yeah, but honestly, I think that's going to kind of be the result here.
02:07:34.000 You're going to see people do amazing things.
02:07:37.000 I hear there was already a record broken and it's just barely got off the ground.
02:07:41.000 You're going to see these guys, and this is all monitored by doctors.
02:07:46.000 They get tested so that all of what they're on, everybody knows.
02:07:49.000 So they're going to be looking at what the meta is for the stack and stuff.
02:07:54.000 There will still be standards.
02:07:55.000 You can't go over.
02:07:56.000 Well, they're going to be, there will be standards.
02:07:59.000 These guys don't want to actually injure themselves.
02:08:01.000 Permanently.
02:08:02.000 They wanted, what they want to do is they want to use drugs to enhance themselves as much as they can.
02:08:07.000 But I'm telling you, you're going to see people doing incredible things.
02:08:14.000 Drugs can make people do incredible things.
02:08:16.000 I'm curious, are they, is this going to be like a live golf thing, right?
02:08:19.000 Where like with live golf, obviously, like the Saudis paid people a lot of money to leave the PGA to go there?
02:08:26.000 Because I feel like if I was an athlete who'd worked my entire life to get to the Olympics, I wouldn't want to be like, oh yeah, I'm giving up my dream of getting a gold medal to go to the, They're going to make more money.
02:08:35.000 This Saudi Arabia is going to make more money.
02:08:37.000 They must be paying people a fortune.
02:08:39.000 Look, all that the viewers are going to care about is the amazing things they do.
02:08:45.000 That's exactly why I brought up the.
02:08:48.000 Apparently a guy already broke the swim record.
02:08:48.000 Back?
02:08:50.000 Yeah.
02:08:50.000 No, no.
02:08:52.000 Apparently they're saying a guy already broke the world record for the Olympic.
02:08:52.000 They're younger guys.
02:08:57.000 That's why I brought up the baseball.
02:08:59.000 100 meters or something.
02:08:59.000 That's why I brought up that stuff about baseball because people want to see amazing things.
02:09:04.000 And when you have like.
02:09:05.000 Everybody smashing home runs.
02:09:07.000 Then you're like, oh, we got to get rid of the drugs.
02:09:10.000 Everyone starts getting tested.
02:09:12.000 Heart attacks.
02:09:13.000 And then the home run record or the home run number just drops through the floor.
02:09:19.000 People are just like, bad.
02:09:20.000 You know, the home run record's based on Royds.
02:09:22.000 Yeah.
02:09:23.000 So now it's never going to get beat.
02:09:24.000 Barry Bonds will never be allowed to.
02:09:26.000 That's true.
02:09:27.000 That's an absolute truth.
02:09:28.000 You know, does that mean like next we're going to get the skinny Olympics sponsored by Ozempic?
02:09:34.000 Nobody eats and they're all tired and nauseated.
02:09:37.000 And kind of bitchy the whole time.
02:09:38.000 Yeah.
02:09:39.000 Everybody's all just going to be like, welcome to my life.
02:09:42.000 Yeah.
02:09:43.000 I think there's, we probably have a video on PCC going back to like 2021 where I was talking about how we need the steroid Olympics where everybody just gets jacked to the gills and does amazing stuff.
02:09:56.000 And we just watch monsters just thrash each other, just deformed behemoths.
02:10:00.000 Pro wrestling got worse.
02:10:02.000 We'll suffer the consequences.
02:10:05.000 There's a reason why the UFC is so much more, has so much higher viewership than boxing does because it's more extreme.
02:10:15.000 The guys are in better shape generally, and the rules are significantly looser.
02:10:21.000 It's closer to what you would see in a real fight.
02:10:24.000 All the rules and all of the regulations and stuff, people just kind of like, if you don't have Mike Tyson, right?
02:10:31.000 Like, just smash.
02:10:32.000 That's why people like Mike Tyson because he was an absolute monster smashing people.
02:10:36.000 And then you got UFC.
02:10:39.000 Come for the bitten ears.
02:10:40.000 No.
02:10:41.000 Well, they don't like him for the rape either, but before that stuff.
02:10:44.000 No, honestly, the craziest.
02:10:46.000 Thing is, he's one of those examples where people just kind of forget that that happened, that he got convicted of that.
02:10:51.000 Yeah, like he pushes everyone just woke up one day and was just kind of cool.
02:10:55.000 I don't know, that's horrible.
02:10:57.000 Yeah, what do I want to look that up?
02:10:59.000 Then he pushes mom down the stairs, or who is it?
02:11:00.000 Who is it?
02:11:01.000 No, let me, yeah, let me see.
02:11:02.000 It's amazing how people like come back and they have, I don't know if that's like a great brand specialist who did that for him, or just to your point, Phil, like it pro wrestling was better when the wrestlers were on steroids.
02:11:12.000 Oh, yeah, and a Macho Man Randy Savage promo.
02:11:16.000 No, someone commented the Olympics used to be nude.
02:11:19.000 I think that might be true.
02:11:20.000 Fine.
02:11:22.000 If it has to be a new Home Run Derby.
02:11:25.000 Not in modern times.
02:11:27.000 Mike Tyson has never been confirmed to push his mother down the stairs.
02:11:30.000 Whichever is of it.
02:11:31.000 Let's see.
02:11:32.000 It's a fictionary parody attributed to the animated character Derek Tatum from The Simpsons.
02:11:40.000 So it's one of those false.
02:11:42.000 It's a false implanted memory.
02:11:44.000 Now he just hates groaning because he's like everywhere I go, people accuse me of pushing my mom down the stairs.
02:11:51.000 Oh, man.
02:11:52.000 It's funny that I wasn't sure, but I heard it somewhere, and it turns out it was just a spoof from the same story.
02:11:55.000 I think a rape one might be.
02:11:58.000 He was convicted.
02:11:58.000 That is true.
02:11:59.000 He went to jail, right?
02:12:00.000 When he got out, he immediately won again and began.
02:12:02.000 Yeah, he smashed someone else.
02:12:05.000 He smashed a woman, went to prison, they came out and smashed a guy.
02:12:08.000 But that, like, that's, like, I honestly think this is actually going to be, it's going to do fairly well because people want to see records broken.
02:12:16.000 They want to see amazing performances.
02:12:18.000 And the Olympians are all, you know, they're great.
02:12:21.000 They bust their hump to get there.
02:12:23.000 But when you see the augmented Olympics crushing the records of the people in the regular Olympics, people are going to be like, I want to watch that because it's about entertainment.
02:12:33.000 Tim really is.
02:12:34.000 In fact, the Olympics is special, though.
02:12:36.000 I don't think it's going to lose.
02:12:37.000 It's going to make regular Olympics special Olympics.
02:12:40.000 I feel like this is going to be the like, oh, it's like the Olympics, but it's not the Olympics.
02:12:47.000 The Olympics is still the Olympics.
02:12:49.000 The steroid figure skaters will be 1440s on flat ground.
02:12:54.000 Are there any sports that would not benefit from having steroids?
02:12:58.000 Curling.
02:13:00.000 Yeah, you blast that energy as the power of curling.
02:13:04.000 I like how every winner of the Olympic curling team looks like they just showed up by accident.
02:13:10.000 Yeah.
02:13:13.000 But I mean, there's like honestly, you know, the shooting the guy, the remember the yeah, like the Turkish guy, yeah, with special equipment.
02:13:21.000 It would mess with your like your ability to keep your hands the only thing that guy needed more was a cigarette hanging out of his mouth while he was doing it, just sitting there ripping a dart.
02:13:29.000 I like that they're like, he's clearly special forces or a spy because he got third place, even though he doesn't look like he's trying, yeah, like he couldn't win.
02:13:37.000 Their arms are all twisted and they're wearing the weird little the weird guys, yeah, the goggles, yeah, the Olympics, it's the best, that's hilarious.
02:13:45.000 Like, is it a thing where?
02:13:47.000 You were in a country where you had to cross country ski and then shoot people and then escape or something?
02:13:50.000 Was it like.
02:13:51.000 Well, there was a.
02:13:52.000 It's a Nordic country.
02:13:53.000 There was an Olympic game where you had to cross country ski and shoot.
02:13:56.000 Yeah, the biathlon.
02:13:57.000 Is it the biathlon?
02:13:58.000 Yeah.
02:13:59.000 Okay.
02:13:59.000 I think so.
02:14:00.000 I don't know what it was called, but I do recall that actual.
02:14:00.000 I don't remember.
02:14:03.000 It is amazing that that sport has lasted, that no one has said, oh, maybe it's time to take this out.
02:14:09.000 Like, it's still a thing.
02:14:11.000 And people still train for it.
02:14:13.000 I love that.
02:14:14.000 I think it's amazing.
02:14:15.000 Are there any sports that still.
02:14:17.000 Shot put would be interesting.
02:14:18.000 Yeah.
02:14:19.000 Oh, my God.
02:14:19.000 Yeah.
02:14:21.000 It's a guy in the concession stand.
02:14:24.000 Someone's going to get hurt.
02:14:26.000 This is going to be awesome.
02:14:28.000 What is the one called when you run with the pole and like joust yourself up?
02:14:31.000 Yeah.
02:14:31.000 Oh, you mean pole vault?
02:14:32.000 That would be crazy.
02:14:32.000 Yeah.
02:14:33.000 Yeah.
02:14:34.000 Javelin.
02:14:34.000 I don't know.
02:14:35.000 60s.
02:14:36.000 That's like back in the medieval period.
02:14:38.000 That's still a thing.
02:14:38.000 Well, javelins, they do javelin.
02:14:40.000 What do you mean?
02:14:40.000 Yeah.
02:14:41.000 Yeah.
02:14:41.000 They run.
02:14:42.000 Oh, I was thinking of jousting.
02:14:45.000 My bad.
02:14:46.000 All right.
02:14:47.000 We can't do that because you cannot dope the horses.
02:14:49.000 Yeah, you don't want to hurt the horses.
02:14:51.000 I feel like we could have like a robotic horse, though.
02:14:53.000 I mean, motorcycles.
02:14:55.000 Electric motorcycles with the motorcycle jousting.
02:15:00.000 I think people have done that.
02:15:01.000 Let's grab some callers.
02:15:01.000 Yeah, probably.
02:15:02.000 Let's start with Hamstrung.
02:15:05.000 Hey, what's going on, brother?
02:15:06.000 What's up, man?
02:15:08.000 Howdy.
02:15:10.000 Howdy.
02:15:11.000 I just got a question for Tim or the panel.
02:15:15.000 Let's get right into it.
02:15:16.000 There seems to be a massive reforming of who or what kind of, you know, the quotes right is.
02:15:23.000 It's taken place over the past several months, if not even a little bit longer.
02:15:27.000 You know, we even highlighted the elections where progressives are taking a hit.
02:15:32.000 I guess my question is are we doomed to regress to kind of early 2000s politics or can, you know, all these obvious You know, grifters be called out and kind of kicked out of the movement.
02:15:42.000 So you kind of keep the core movement that I guess we had more in 2016, but yeah, in the early right after the election, too.
02:15:50.000 You can't kick people out.
02:15:51.000 It's just not a thing.
02:15:52.000 I mean, they have their audiences.
02:15:53.000 It's just MAGA's fractured.
02:15:56.000 And the core pro Trump base, like, no, it's not because we're MAGA.
02:15:59.000 It's like, no, no, no.
02:16:00.000 There were moderates.
02:16:00.000 There was a coalition.
02:16:01.000 There were libertarians.
02:16:03.000 They're all misaligned now.
02:16:04.000 So I don't know what that means, but you can't kick Candace out of her own audience.
02:16:09.000 It's not going to happen.
02:16:11.000 I guess just me like actively calling them out more, like being like, they're not even on the right at this point, I would say.
02:16:15.000 They're not even conservative.
02:16:17.000 And it just feels like everyone's just a grift to, you know, like, you know, like, despite the fact that Candace is pandering to liberals, liberals are going to go, nope, she's a conservative.
02:16:23.000 It's because they love the idea that, see, even conservatives agree with us.
02:16:26.000 So they can't let her be a lib.
02:16:28.000 Yeah.
02:16:28.000 I mean, even, even like, sorry, go ahead.
02:16:31.000 Well, I mean, you, you look at the, there's this post that Nate Silver put up that was going around.
02:16:36.000 He called Jackson Hinkle on the right.
02:16:38.000 Jackson Hinkle is a, yeah, he's a communist.
02:16:39.000 Yeah, he's a founder of the American Communist Party.
02:16:42.000 He's right on the right.
02:16:44.000 So, by the horseshoe theory, you know, the alt right and the alt left kind of meet in, you know, in the middle there.
02:16:50.000 Yeah.
02:16:51.000 The fringe extremes meet up.
02:16:52.000 You know, I don't even like, I don't know that the actual national socialists out there are super anti Trump.
02:17:00.000 There's the Groypers and stuff that are, but I'm that Nick, the Nick Fuentes followers.
02:17:04.000 But I don't know that if you're actually like really, you know, national socialist, I don't know that they're anti Trump now.
02:17:12.000 I mean, I'm sure that Trump wouldn't want them to be pro Trump, but, uh, I think that Nick Fuentes and the Groibers and stuff, they're kind of an entity to themselves.
02:17:23.000 They're not really.
02:17:24.000 He told people to vote for Democrats, Fuentes.
02:17:27.000 And he was anti Trump before.
02:17:27.000 Yeah.
02:17:27.000 Yeah.
02:17:28.000 Yeah.
02:17:29.000 Yeah.
02:17:30.000 This is all like a ton of purity testing, which is just a side effect of a large scale coalition of voters being built.
02:17:37.000 Kind of like the left purity test themselves, but they're so rigid about keeping everyone in line that you're not really allowed to fall away from the pack, anyways.
02:17:45.000 So everybody arguing about who's more like who was more America first or who was more.
02:17:51.000 MAGA early on.
02:17:52.000 Yeah, there's always stupid purity tests.
02:17:55.000 And when you're dealing with a coalition, purity tests are the worst thing you can do because the coalition is not going to live up to any purity tests.
02:18:03.000 This is one of the problems that libertarians have all the time.
02:18:05.000 They're always like, well, I'm the only real libertarian.
02:18:08.000 You know, libertarians are constantly purity testing each other.
02:18:12.000 And you'd think that, you know, ostensibly libertarians are supposed to be like, you do what you want just so long as you want to be free.
02:18:18.000 But as soon as someone says, well, you know, we need the politics of addition, not Subtraction.
02:18:24.000 I feel like in general, though, the left, I think for the left, progressivism is more of a religion.
02:18:28.000 I feel like a lot of people on the right are just like want to do their thing and make sure government isn't in their way.
02:18:33.000 So I think inherently the left is more prone to purity.
02:18:37.000 Yeah, the MAGA coalition was not as much all right wing or all Republican as it was, I reject the woke of the left.
02:18:46.000 That was really, really good.
02:18:47.000 I can't stand the phrase woke right, though.
02:18:50.000 We've gone off on that a million times.
02:18:51.000 And there are people now that it's all just tribalism.
02:18:55.000 The, the, the retard right's not woke.
02:18:57.000 They don't exhibit woke.
02:18:58.000 They're like, Candace is retarded.
02:19:00.000 Tucker has strong opinions that are aligned against Israel, but he's not the same thing as Candace in terms of ideology.
02:19:06.000 Woke left were marching in lockstep over the same issues, even when they didn't make sense.
02:19:12.000 Nick Fuentes and Candace don't get along.
02:19:14.000 There's not woke right.
02:19:16.000 It's stupid.
02:19:17.000 That's an interesting discussion.
02:19:18.000 This is part of the human beings' inherent need to categorize everything.
02:19:22.000 No, James Lindsay explicitly said.
02:19:22.000 Yeah.
02:19:24.000 I'm saying, but in general.
02:19:24.000 No, I know.
02:19:25.000 Right, but for the honest, the purpose of woke right was to create a catch all for people he could smear as anti Semites and white supremacists the same way alt right did.
02:19:33.000 That's his explanation.
02:19:34.000 So he's outright saying he knows all these people have different ideologies, but he wants to create an insult for all of them to freak people out.
02:19:40.000 It's like I don't use the term woke when I. Complain about things in movies and TV shows because my definition of that is likely very different.
02:19:48.000 Like, you have a very specific definition you have for that term, but I could people give you the correct definition, but people could give you 10,000 different definitions for what they consider to be something woke in a movie or a television show.
02:19:58.000 So, it's inherently not beneficial for me to describe it that way, especially if I'm trying to tell you to or to not to see something.
02:20:05.000 That makes sense.
02:20:07.000 Yeah, there's an aesthetic to woke, which is a broad thing.
02:20:10.000 Like, the reason why the Jaguar commercial was woke, even though they didn't say anything, it's because it's the aesthetic.
02:20:16.000 Does that answer your question?
02:20:17.000 Yeah.
02:20:18.000 Do you want to share anything?
02:20:18.000 Anyway, yeah.
02:20:19.000 I guess I could add one thing.
02:20:21.000 It's not, for me, it's not really a purity test.
02:20:23.000 It just feels like these guys are operating like on a, you know, attention economy and politics is hot right now.
02:20:28.000 It feels like they don't care about anything, like left or right.
02:20:31.000 They're just, yeah, I guess grifters in the word, but that's, yeah, that's all I had to add.
02:20:34.000 They don't care about making money.
02:20:36.000 Yeah, they do.
02:20:37.000 Well, it's like when Joe Kent came out and it became about specifically talking about Israel, right?
02:20:42.000 Like you have to come out and you have to have like a thing, and that's your niche focus because that's what your audience is going for.
02:20:48.000 And that's not to say that.
02:20:49.000 Everybody is, you know, it's just people who have some type of problem with Israel.
02:20:54.000 There's people on all sides of the aisle that have their thing, and that's what they focus on because it's not necessarily about speaking truth to power as much as they say that that's true.
02:21:04.000 It's about garnering an audience and holding that audience.
02:21:11.000 Yeah.
02:21:11.000 Yeah.
02:21:12.000 You got anything you want to add?
02:21:14.000 Got anything you want to shout out?
02:21:16.000 Drinking tea is gay.
02:21:17.000 Real patriots drink coffee.
02:21:19.000 Fair enough.
02:21:20.000 All right.
02:21:21.000 Right on.
02:21:22.000 Well, thanks for calling in.
02:21:23.000 Thanks, guys.
02:21:24.000 Thanks, man.
02:21:29.000 All right, let's grab Oswald.
02:21:32.000 That was Hamstrung, right?
02:21:33.000 Yeah.
02:21:33.000 Oswald, that ends Wald.
02:21:36.000 What's up, Oswald?
02:21:38.000 Hey, guys, can you hear me okay?
02:21:40.000 Yeah, yep.
02:21:41.000 All right, good.
02:21:43.000 So I kind of have a few questions for the panel.
02:21:46.000 So just to kind of start us off, what should the next steps be after the Iran war is wrapped up, assuming that any ceasefire holds?
02:21:54.000 So do you think this is a win for the United States?
02:21:57.000 Iran still has a Strait of Hormuz.
02:22:00.000 Their nuclear materials, U.S. troops withdrawn from the region, the U.S. accepted Iran's 10 point peace plan.
02:22:06.000 So, what do you guys think about that?
02:22:08.000 I don't think the U.S. has actually accepted the 10 point peace plan.
02:22:12.000 Yeah, it's a framework for negotiation, but also beyond that, I don't know.
02:22:16.000 There are a million and one variables.
02:22:17.000 We don't know what's going to happen, so I don't know what to prescribe next.
02:22:20.000 It does look like the journal has reported about some of the edicts in the peace plan, and they seem a little unreasonable about what Iran wants.
02:22:30.000 I think we should just go back to focusing on Epstein.
02:22:32.000 I think that would be really beneficial.
02:22:34.000 I think we'd get a lot done if we did that.
02:22:37.000 Yeah.
02:22:39.000 So, my next one is Do you think we owe Iran for damages to the country?
02:22:45.000 Should we help them rebuild their civilian infrastructure like bridges, power, water, et cetera?
02:22:50.000 No.
02:22:51.000 Well, there was only one bridge that was destroyed.
02:22:54.000 That was the only infrastructure that was impacted.
02:22:57.000 Everything else was destroying military infrastructure.
02:23:00.000 I feel like Israel should owe them, not us.
02:23:03.000 I don't know.
02:23:04.000 I don't know.
02:23:05.000 They shot a lot of missiles at Israel.
02:23:07.000 I'm not sure that Israel should owe them.
02:23:09.000 I think Iran's got plenty of oil, they got plenty of money.
02:23:12.000 And it's kind of like a Venezuela situation where a lot of Western companies invested in Iran and then they sort of took over the means of production.
02:23:18.000 So I think that's why when Trump was saying, Oh, to the victor goes the spoils, I think there is a sense in which they stole a lot of effort and work and infrastructure from many companies quite a long time ago.
02:23:31.000 Yeah, I don't see them.
02:23:34.000 There is talk about them charging for transit through the Strait of Hormuz and splitting the money with Oman.
02:23:41.000 I don't know if that's actually true, but one of the reasons that was stated for that was because they were going to use that to rebuild the infrastructure.
02:23:50.000 But no, I don't think the U.S. should give them a dime.
02:23:52.000 I don't think the U.S. needs to give them anything.
02:23:56.000 So, I guess what I was kind of thinking of was the United States helped Germany rebuild after World War II.
02:24:02.000 So, I was just kind of wondering what your thoughts were if there was any sort of parallel or not.
02:24:07.000 Germany surrendered.
02:24:08.000 Like, Germany and Japan literally signed treaties or like Hitler killed themselves.
02:24:12.000 Like, it was very clear that they had lost and that Nazism and the powers were not going to exist in the same way.
02:24:23.000 So, I think if Iran wanted to surrender, yeah, we can have a Marshall Plan 2.0 if we're going to see serious regime change there, but why would we?
02:24:31.000 It seems like it's.
02:24:32.000 I think somebody made this distinction between there's a difference between regime change and regimes acting differently.
02:24:37.000 And from the American vantage point, the only thing that matters is the regime is acting differently, but we don't need to prop them up and give them cash.
02:24:45.000 Yeah, we don't.
02:24:48.000 And then my last question is do you think this is productive American policy?
02:24:53.000 So, kind of throwing the world into chaos, in a sense, holding the world hostage unless Iran bends the knees.
02:24:59.000 So, energy shortages, fertilizer shortages, et cetera.
02:25:03.000 Is all of this destruction morally worth it for the petrodollar?
02:25:08.000 For American hegemonic power, if you want the U.S. to stay on top of all the other countries, you don't want a Chinese Communist Party controlling the world, then yes.
02:25:18.000 That's the challenge of war.
02:25:21.000 Some people will argue China will never do it.
02:25:23.000 I don't think that's the case.
02:25:24.000 I think they will.
02:25:24.000 I think the Belt Road Initiative is obvious that they're trying to build their own IMF, their own liberal economic order, and will be under their boot.
02:25:35.000 I also think there's something to be said for Iran.
02:25:37.000 You know, Iran and China and Russia are all allies.
02:25:40.000 So I think weakening one weakens the other.
02:25:42.000 And that's why the Ukrainians and Zelensky was actually very supportive of our action in Iran.
02:25:48.000 Because if we are able to weaken them, that inherently impacts China, which gets much more of their oil from Iran than really anybody else.
02:25:56.000 Yeah.
02:25:56.000 I mean, I'm of the opinion that a lot of this had to do with China.
02:26:01.000 I don't think that it was exclusively China.
02:26:02.000 I think that a lot of it, I think it was, you know, Israel deciding, saying that they're going to attack Iran, you know, kind of forced the U.S.'s hand.
02:26:09.000 But I also think that the U.S. looked at the situation and said, you know, this is actually going to be really bad for China.
02:26:14.000 We can use this to our advantage.
02:26:15.000 Regardless of, I think I still have a lot of questions about the strategy long term, but regardless, I think the display that our military put on and the success from a military vantage point, I mean, the AI we were using, this is the first time we deployed some of these incredible new technologies we have, but the way that they were able to rescue the soldiers, they had a heartbeat detector.
02:26:37.000 So they were able to find his heartbeat over the span of, Thousands of miles.
02:26:41.000 So I think that is certainly a deterrent to China to show off everything that we've created.
02:26:46.000 Yeah.
02:26:47.000 I mean, and also the fact that the weapons that Iran had and Venezuela actually were all Chinese.
02:26:53.000 And China had said, oh, you know, these things can defeat stealth.
02:26:56.000 And it was an absolute, absolute annihilation.
02:27:00.000 China, it was really, really, really bad for China.
02:27:03.000 And I think that that's why China stepped in and said, Iran, you need to stop this.
02:27:07.000 You need to accept some kind of deal.
02:27:10.000 Yeah.
02:27:10.000 You need to get it together.
02:27:11.000 Get it together.
02:27:11.000 You need to stop because whoever they're talking to over there.
02:27:14.000 Yeah.
02:27:14.000 So, like I said, I think a lot of this had to do with China, even though I don't think that it was exclusively China.
02:27:19.000 I'm not saying that it was all because of China.
02:27:22.000 But I think that the reason why the U.S. thought that it was a good idea to do this was like, we can make this work to our advantage by putting China in.
02:27:30.000 Yeah, there's like ripple effects on the proxies that are now sort of decimated, but also.
02:27:37.000 And I've mentioned this a couple times.
02:27:39.000 I've mentioned this a couple times.
02:27:40.000 Like when the Biden administration met with China, the entourage was talking to Blinken and they came right out and said, you are not negotiating from a position of strength.
02:27:49.000 I don't know if people remember.
02:27:50.000 It was in Alaska.
02:27:51.000 And now Trump has a meeting with Xi, I believe, in June.
02:27:55.000 I think the Democrats want the war with Iran.
02:27:58.000 I think that's why they didn't vote on the war resolutions power.
02:28:00.000 And I think the liberal commentators want the war with Iran.
02:28:02.000 And I think Tucker and Candace and all these other people do.
02:28:04.000 That's why they're insulting Trump.
02:28:08.000 I don't think they don't like, they know they're goading Trump to saying, oh, you're chicken, Trump.
02:28:11.000 You didn't do it.
02:28:13.000 I think that's the idea.
02:28:15.000 They want the war with Iran.
02:28:17.000 They've wanted it for decades.
02:28:19.000 It will help them in the midterms or why?
02:28:20.000 No, no, I think that the U.S. has had, like, Afghanistan and Iraq.
02:28:26.000 It was a pincer strike against Iran.
02:28:27.000 We surrounded them.
02:28:28.000 The military industrial complex, Lindsey Graham, John Bolton, the neocons, they wanted to shut down Iran for decades.
02:28:33.000 Iran's been on our list.
02:28:34.000 So I think these Democrats and liberals who are saying, ha ha, Trump's a chicken, know that it is goading Trump to continue the war.
02:28:41.000 That's what they want.
02:28:42.000 The first time they called Trump presidential in the media was when he launched 59 Tomahawk missiles on Syria.
02:28:46.000 When Trump goes to war, they celebrate him.
02:28:49.000 In this instance, they're not, but it's strange that.
02:28:52.000 Everyone is attacking Trump for not going to war right now.
02:28:56.000 The only conclusion is they would have preferred that he did.
02:28:59.000 And they're mad that he didn't.
02:29:00.000 Yeah.
02:29:02.000 So, got anything you want to add or shout out?
02:29:07.000 Yeah, so I guess something I kind of want to add a little bit is just that.
02:29:12.000 So, I'm teaching my seven year old son how to play chess, and he's getting very, very good.
02:29:17.000 And I guess the way that I kind of see this is as much as I hate to see the destruction and the use of our military and the just kind of free floating anxiety throughout the world, it's kind of like removing a bishop off the board.
02:29:29.000 It's not necessarily the king.
02:29:31.000 It's maybe not as powerful as a queen.
02:29:33.000 But it's still a problem piece that is, you know, especially if he's controlling the center of the board, it's kind of like you got to get that piece off the board or do something with it to, you know, to try and protect your own side so that you can essentially win in the long term.
02:29:48.000 And that's how I kind of, I guess that's how I kind of look at it.
02:29:53.000 It doesn't make me happy.
02:29:54.000 I wouldn't have advised, Tim, I'm sort of with you.
02:29:57.000 I wouldn't have advised going into Iran.
02:30:00.000 I wouldn't have advised on it.
02:30:02.000 But it's just one of those things where it's kind of like once we're in it, we have to try to.
02:30:07.000 Kind of make the best of it.
02:30:08.000 Right.
02:30:09.000 It's a literal gambit in the truest sense of the chess terminology.
02:30:12.000 Trump is making a move that has potential risks in a hope to position his enemies in a way that will give him the advantage in the long term.
02:30:19.000 If Trump succeeds here, it swings the advantage so heavily that I don't see the BRICS nations ever recovering.
02:30:26.000 So they're not going to be crushed immediately.
02:30:28.000 He's not checkmating, but it's a foregone conclusion at this point.
02:30:31.000 They may actually just say, okay, okay, shake hands and say, let us know how to run this.
02:30:37.000 Yeah.
02:30:39.000 So, I have a few shout outs actually.
02:30:42.000 So, Carter, for making the great music.
02:30:44.000 Thank you very much.
02:30:45.000 Dude, for sure.
02:30:48.000 Congratulations, Brett, on your marriage.
02:30:51.000 Thank you.
02:30:53.000 And your wife was very helpful getting us set up for this call.
02:30:58.000 Excellent.
02:30:59.000 Glad she's doing it.
02:30:59.000 Congratulations.
02:31:00.000 I'm sorry?
02:31:01.000 I said, Glad.
02:31:02.000 I'm going to tell her good job doing your job when I get home tonight.
02:31:02.000 I'm glad.
02:31:08.000 Congratulations, Phil and Tim, on your babies.
02:31:11.000 Appreciate it.
02:31:11.000 Thank you.
02:31:12.000 And last one, probably most importantly, Brett and Phil, you were both my inspiration for getting sober.
02:31:20.000 So, congratulations, man.
02:31:24.000 So, have a good night, guys.
02:31:25.000 Good to hear you on.
02:31:26.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:31:27.000 Good one.
02:31:28.000 All right.
02:31:28.000 Next up, we've got Pop Punk Programmer.
02:31:32.000 What's up?
02:31:32.000 What's up, homie?
02:31:33.000 What's up, dude?
02:31:34.000 Hey, guys.
02:31:35.000 How's it going, guys?
02:31:36.000 Thank you guys for having me on tonight.
02:31:37.000 Absolutely.
02:31:38.000 Calling in.
02:31:39.000 Yes.
02:31:40.000 Yes.
02:31:40.000 Yes.
02:31:40.000 Awesome.
02:31:41.000 Second time caller.
02:31:42.000 About almost a 10 year listener at this point, Tim.
02:31:44.000 I've been listening to your videos since roughly after the inauguration in 2016.
02:31:48.000 Wow.
02:31:48.000 It's been really awesome to watch things moving the way they have been.
02:31:51.000 And yeah, no, I just want to get into this.
02:31:54.000 So, what you guys were talking about with private equity earlier made me jump onto my computer and go to the Discord and say, Hey, I'd like to talk to Tim about this.
02:32:02.000 It sounded to me like you were really defending private equity.
02:32:04.000 And I come to this topic as a libertarian capitalist myself.
02:32:10.000 I'm not anti capitalism, of course, but I think the way private equity is operating is very sketchy and is hurting the economy in general and hurting the American people.
02:32:19.000 So, I just wanted to get a clarification from you, Tim, on how you feel about private equity and how you're actually, like, what your actual point on this is.
02:32:26.000 And if that Is taking into account the issues of these leverage buyouts, the collateral obligation loans that they're putting the companies under, recipe thinning, asset stripping, all these things that these private equity firms are doing that are destroying these companies.
02:32:39.000 And these things are also being passed off to pension firms as well.
02:32:42.000 So you're describing specific companies that have done a bad thing.
02:32:45.000 Private equity as a function is when investors come into a business.
02:32:50.000 That's it.
02:32:51.000 Like private equity is a vague, generic term that has been used by activists upset about large companies that do bad things to start attacking just general capitalism.
02:33:03.000 So, if Phil and I pool resources and say we're going to start a private equity firm, we each put in 20 grand, small, and we say we're going to buy a small business off BizBuySell that we think is not doing a good job, there's a reason they're selling.
02:33:17.000 We're going to invest in it, clean it up, and fix it up and make a profit.
02:33:21.000 That's great.
02:33:22.000 But what happens is you have big companies that have done bad things to be able to criticize.
02:33:26.000 So they said, private equity as a general concept is a bad thing.
02:33:29.000 It's like, no, no, no, no.
02:33:31.000 You're talking about that one firm.
02:33:33.000 Like, you're talking about this company did a bad thing.
02:33:36.000 Don't attack the idea of investing in a business in general as bad.
02:33:41.000 Language wise, I feel like it's from videos that are being made where somebody makes a general point about a company.
02:33:46.000 Like the video I was talking about earlier about the private equity firm, the specific one that bought up these hockey rinks and removed the rights of parents to film their kids with their phones because they have a streaming service.
02:33:56.000 That they have to subscribe to if they want to see their kids play hockey.
02:33:59.000 And the video is basically like private equity is doing this thing when what he could be saying is like this company and others like it are doing that thing.
02:34:07.000 It's communists.
02:34:09.000 It's a side effect of people who are shortening their videos and making capitalists who want to see a better system.
02:34:14.000 No, it's communism.
02:34:15.000 No.
02:34:16.000 Private equity literally is a reference to investors buying companies.
02:34:19.000 It's just, that's all it is.
02:34:20.000 Private equity literally is a generic term, not a proper noun.
02:34:24.000 Private equity means private ownership of business.
02:34:26.000 That's all it means.
02:34:27.000 So, there are big firms that buy up companies and do bad things.
02:34:31.000 And now you've got people using the general term for investing in a business as evil.
02:34:37.000 That is fair.
02:34:38.000 I just, I was, that's what I thought you were talking about earlier, Tim.
02:34:41.000 I just wanted to make sure because it seems like it was being talked about in the context of private equity being used in a colloquial sense.
02:34:47.000 But I understand that, you know, describing it as a generalization.
02:34:47.000 Yeah.
02:34:50.000 It's like this when the left says abolish profit, and then you say to them, like, but if a man makes birdhouses and the materials cost $20, How will he buy food after selling his birdhouse if he can't profit?
02:35:03.000 They go, No, we're not talking about that.
02:35:04.000 We're talking about corporations.
02:35:06.000 And I'm like, Oh.
02:35:08.000 So you're upset over a handful of large corporations, not the constant profit, but you're attacking profit.
02:35:12.000 It's what communists do because it's all a Trojan horse to get capitalism abolished or communism implemented.
02:35:20.000 It's like when they say eat the rich.
02:35:21.000 Well, not these rich people.
02:35:22.000 We mean these specific rich people.
02:35:25.000 It's never the issue, or the issue is never the issue.
02:35:27.000 The issue is always the revolution.
02:35:30.000 So that is fair.
02:35:31.000 Yeah, that's completely fair.
02:35:33.000 Should we be finding some other term to use for these companies that are explicitly engaging in these practices?
02:35:38.000 I was talking about with the hockey rinks.
02:35:40.000 This is happening across multiple industries with not just retail and food service, but also hospitals, veterinary.
02:35:46.000 There's a lot of, and even in the trades as well, this is happening across a large amount of the economy, and this is going to cause an issue.
02:35:52.000 So should we be finding some other term to refer to these companies specifically?
02:35:54.000 Yes, their names.
02:35:57.000 Yeah, of course.
02:35:58.000 But I mean, this is a very large chunk of private equity which is doing this.
02:36:03.000 Pretty much any private equity company that's publicly traded.
02:36:07.000 I actually, not to toot my own horn here, actually, I wrote a story that I think is very cool about now there are companies that are sort of trying to offer an alternative because one issue we have is sort of this what's referred to as a silver tsunami, where there's a lot of boomers and folks who've created these sort of small and medium sized businesses.
02:36:26.000 They're retiring and they face these two options either they shutter their business or in some cases the only option is to sell to private equity.
02:36:34.000 And some of these folks don't want to do that.
02:36:35.000 And To large private equity firms that are publicly traded because they've seen the outcome is employees get fired, prices are more expensive, and the investment that they personally made in the community of supporting local charities and whatnot and giving back, large private equity firms that are headquartered in New York City, for instance, aren't going to invest in their community.
02:36:56.000 So there's one company I wrote about, it's, I think, I'm blanking on American Operator, but I know there's other companies doing this as well.
02:37:02.000 And they're basically trying to offer an alternative where they partner with.
02:37:08.000 Somebody in the community to help that person purchase the business and sort of keep the money, keep the profit, keep the business locally owned and not outsource it to a big company.
02:37:21.000 It feels like such a dying effort in today's day and age, too.
02:37:23.000 I don't think, but I think people want that option.
02:37:27.000 I take another look at, too, like even with large private equity firms, the thing that annoys me about it, too, is there are a lot of companies that are dysfunctional, run by morons, and by luck, they're staying afloat.
02:37:40.000 They should have someone come in and gut it and clean it up.
02:37:44.000 So, even large scale private equity, I think, is a good thing.
02:37:47.000 The idea that like businesses should just get to exist is communist to me.
02:37:53.000 Don't get me wrong, there are nefarious practices in the business with debt, loading a business with debt to offload it and things like that, then bankrupt it.
02:38:00.000 That I understand.
02:38:01.000 What do you make though?
02:38:02.000 Because there are.
02:38:02.000 Yeah, that's what I call it.
02:38:03.000 There are quantitative ripple effects.
02:38:05.000 Like the cost, I forget, I think Bank of America produced a research study that said, as a result of some of these big private equity companies buying up veterinarian clinics, Prices are up something like 38% over the last five years.
02:38:16.000 And in hospitals, quality goes down.
02:38:18.000 And so there are, like, how would you respond to that?
02:38:20.000 Because there are quantifiable impacts on price, on quality, on the.
02:38:25.000 Open a veterinary clinic and compete and offer cheaper prices.
02:38:30.000 It is communist to say that because a business is bought another business, we should shut that business down instead of why doesn't someone just open a competing clinic next door that offers cheaper prices and steals all the business, putting them under?
02:38:42.000 This is what Starbucks does.
02:38:43.000 Starbucks will open, allegedly, Opens a coffee shop across the street from a mom and pop shop, drops their prices at a loss so that people stop going to the mom and pop shop, putting them out of business, then they normalize their prices.
02:38:54.000 Why doesn't anybody do that?
02:38:56.000 Why are they just complaining?
02:38:58.000 Oh, it's not fair.
02:39:05.000 Anything you want to add?
02:39:08.000 I think I'm good.
02:39:09.000 Thank you, guys.
02:39:10.000 I just thought that was a pretty interesting conversation.
02:39:12.000 It was really interesting when you brought on Tiffany Sianci and Ian Carroll for these topics before.
02:39:17.000 And I think they're also the carried interest loophole talking point we didn't get to touch on either.
02:39:21.000 But I don't want to harp on the point further.
02:39:23.000 So, yeah, thank you.
02:39:24.000 Now look where Ian Carroll is.
02:39:25.000 Dude's brain fell out.
02:39:29.000 I mean, he does do good research work and things.
02:39:30.000 And he talks about how private equity has been taking over grocery stores and such.
02:39:33.000 But I don't know if it's a symptom of this show, but certainly people on other shows have had their brains fall out.
02:39:37.000 Fingers crossed.
02:39:38.000 I think you'll be all right.
02:39:39.000 Okay.
02:39:41.000 Yeah, definitely.
02:39:42.000 Well, I'll shout out my Instagram is Revo Ryan Photography.
02:39:42.000 All right.
02:39:45.000 That's R E V O. If anyone wants to check out some concert photography, I like to go to a lot of punk rock shows.
02:39:49.000 And Phil, looking forward to seeing you at Welcome to Rockville next month.
02:39:52.000 Oh, sick, man.
02:39:52.000 Thanks for coming.
02:39:53.000 Are you going to sell your company to a large private equity firm that does photography?
02:39:57.000 That's the real question.
02:40:00.000 No, no, I would never sell out to the BlackRock.
02:40:03.000 We will not be eating Z Bugs.
02:40:05.000 BlackRock Photography.
02:40:06.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:40:07.000 Thanks, dude.
02:40:08.000 Have a good one.
02:40:08.000 Thanks.
02:40:09.000 So I'll just say this like, if I were to go, let's say it was a company for sale and I bought it.
02:40:14.000 And then said, Guys, you have three employees that don't do anything and fired them.
02:40:18.000 They'd be like, This motherfucking asshole came in, fired people, all for profit.
02:40:24.000 So some of this stuff I think is just, you know.
02:40:26.000 But let's grab CNES.
02:40:28.000 It's a wonderful life, right?
02:40:29.000 You know, you have the protagonist, George Bailey, who is trying to get back.
02:40:36.000 And I guess you could say that, like, who, Mr. Potter is just being, he's reducing costs and.
02:40:46.000 Creating, I don't even know what the terminology would be, but there's some, I don't know.
02:40:50.000 There's something, and again, I can't quantify it, but it's like a moral thing that I think Frank Capra encapsulated in his wonderful life.
02:40:56.000 Is the idea just like any crack begets a flood and any regulation at all is just too dangerous?
02:41:04.000 Any regulation?
02:41:05.000 Like if you were to try and regulate these companies to prevent them from buying up a certain amount of companies.
02:41:10.000 I think it's like every problem was the solution to a previous problem.
02:41:14.000 So I think sometimes when you try and regulate things, there's always these unintended consequences.
02:41:19.000 That often make things worse.
02:41:21.000 That's the issue.
02:41:22.000 Zinoski, what's up, brother?
02:41:24.000 Dude.
02:41:25.000 Yeah, you know, guys, you started off the after show talking about steroids and baseball.
02:41:29.000 And I got to say, until they right the wrong of Pete Rose, I don't really care.
02:41:35.000 That's true.
02:41:37.000 Honestly, Tim, you know, honestly, Tim, I can't imagine a world in which I should ever trust our government.
02:41:43.000 I get that Trump's attempting to do good and being stopped in everything he does, but he is just one man.
02:41:49.000 We can't lay it all on him.
02:41:51.000 That's why we got Marco Rubio.
02:41:54.000 But more importantly, we just saw in Kentucky the state Supreme Court ruled that the Kentucky legislature, having voted 73 to 14 to do so, cannot impeach a state circuit judge, citing that there is a judiciary review committee that is supposed to do that, not the legislature.
02:42:14.000 We, as a country, are officially cooked.
02:42:18.000 Well, I mean, it's just one state, but yeah, I think we've been locked down for a long time.
02:42:24.000 I think they're telling us outright we're chickens in a chicken coop.
02:42:26.000 What are we going to do about it?
02:42:28.000 An animal?
02:42:29.000 Absolutely nothing, apparently.
02:42:30.000 And they're going to take our eggs from us like a 15 minute city.
02:42:35.000 Yeah.
02:42:36.000 I mean, I don't really, I don't, I'm not familiar with what you're talking about, but the idea of getting rid of judges is, it seems to me, one of the more difficult things that absolutely has to happen if we're going to have, if we're going to straighten out what's going on, the problems in our government, right?
02:42:55.000 Like a judge should not be able to decide that something the president does.
02:43:02.000 You mean all the injunctions and stuff?
02:43:03.000 Yeah.
02:43:04.000 Like they shouldn't be able to make a nationwide injunction for everybody about a thing.
02:43:04.000 Yeah.
02:43:09.000 You know, it should be like there's this person that's bringing up this issue.
02:43:14.000 There's an injunction for this individual.
02:43:16.000 It shouldn't be, you know, nationwide.
02:43:19.000 It's an injunction for this person.
02:43:20.000 And everything that, like the whole rest of the country, still goes, you know, as had been before the injunction.
02:43:29.000 And then when the specific person's specific, you know, claimant or, you know, whatever gets in front of the court and the court finds, then maybe it'll go to the rest of the country.
02:43:41.000 But the idea that they can just put.
02:43:43.000 Put the brakes on the executive office because one person says, Hey, I don't like this.
02:43:48.000 Now, that is not in any way anything that anyone has ever intended.
02:43:53.000 I think that this actually got started during the Obama administration in 2012.
02:43:57.000 It comes when you started hearing the terms like Obama appointed judge and stuff like that, right?
02:44:02.000 It's like when the lawfare really began and they started slowing down the process.
02:44:07.000 Yeah.
02:44:08.000 So, yeah.
02:44:09.000 So, like I said, I don't have any, I'm not familiar with the specific.
02:44:14.000 Thing you're talking about in Kentucky, but the idea overall of a nationwide injunction that stuff has to stop.
02:44:21.000 Yeah, they don't want people making decisions.
02:44:26.000 Oh, I understand that.
02:44:28.000 It just baffles my mind that the legislature, you know, the body that's supposed to be the will of the people, got stopped like this.
02:44:35.000 It is asinine to believe that we have any authority in this country ever again.
02:44:41.000 I mean, this is just one state level thing, though, so it probably operates way differently in West Virginia, to be honest.
02:44:47.000 Well, one can hope.
02:44:50.000 Was there anything else?
02:44:50.000 Yeah.
02:44:53.000 Nothing to that.
02:44:54.000 I do have a shout out, though.
02:44:55.000 Get it.
02:44:57.000 All right, guys.
02:44:58.000 I am here to tell you about streamers.com.
02:45:01.000 Streamers.com was created by a small creator who got tired of trying to find all sorts of people to do all sorts of tasks necessary for their streaming, and he built it.
02:45:13.000 This is somebody who has taken Rumble's platform and just with their API fixed many, many bugs that are associated with Rumble.
02:45:20.000 Wow.
02:45:21.000 And guess what?
02:45:22.000 It is getting better.
02:45:24.000 He is now creating a Discord alternative called Dojo, which will be launching in the next two weeks.
02:45:24.000 Good.
02:45:31.000 So I want to shout out the real Tomby on Rumble and thank him for all that he's doing.
02:45:38.000 Yeah.
02:45:39.000 Awesome.
02:45:39.000 Right on.
02:45:40.000 Very cool, man.
02:45:40.000 Well, thanks for calling in, brother.
02:45:42.000 All right.
02:45:43.000 Thank you, sir.
02:45:43.000 Thank you.
02:45:45.000 All right.
02:45:45.000 My friends, as always, it's been a blast.
02:45:47.000 We're back tomorrow.
02:45:48.000 Who knows what's going to happen?
02:45:49.000 The world's not going to end.
02:45:50.000 So we're all pretty happy.
02:45:51.000 Lydia, it's been great.
02:45:52.000 Thanks for hanging out.
02:45:53.000 Thank you for having me.
02:45:54.000 It's such a pleasure.
02:45:55.000 Absolutely.
02:45:56.000 And for everybody else, we'll see y'all tomorrow.