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00:00:00.000 Donald Trump signed its He signed the executive order declassifying the JFK, RFK, and MLK files.

00:00:24.000 And then, with the pen, he hands it off to someone and says, give that to RFK Jr. And everybody was just like, dang, what a mic drop moment.

00:00:34.000 So we're all getting really excited to see this.

00:00:36.000 Trump said people have been waiting for this for a very long time.

00:00:38.000 And we are excited too.

00:00:41.000 There's also a lot of big news.

00:00:42.000 Donald Trump's approval rating is plus 13. I kid you not.

00:00:47.000 In his first term, he enjoyed only very briefly in his first couple of days at a four percentage point net approval before it flipped completely and never, never did he achieve above water approval ratings.

00:01:02.000 In the first few polls to come out for the beginning of his presidency, there's three polls, plus 17, plus 6, and plus, I believe, 16, giving him an aggregate of plus 13. Let's see if he can maintain this.

00:01:16.000 But you see, I wonder what it is that Trump is doing that perhaps is generating such strong approval.

00:01:20.000 Could it be that he's already authorized ATF and DEA to deport people?

00:01:26.000 The Pentagon has already confirmed they'll be using US Air Force aircraft to begin migrant repatriation, they call it.

00:01:34.000 And we've already seen over 500 criminal illegal aliens being arrested and deported.

00:01:41.000 And you've got numerous journalists embedded.

00:01:44.000 Filming this stuff, these people are very dangerous criminals, violent offenders who are being caught.

00:01:50.000 Perhaps all of that together has a lot of people cheering for Donald Trump.

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00:03:36.000 Yesterday, we talked with Angela McArdle, the chair of the Libertarian Party, about what went down in her meeting with Donald Trump and how did she get Ross Ulbricht pardoned.

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00:04:15.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Jake Rattlesnake.

00:04:19.000 Thank you for having me, Tim.

00:04:20.000 So my name's Jake.

00:04:21.000 I have a channel called Rattlesnake TV where we analyze debates and also host them on a weekly basis.

00:04:26.000 I've got the reality-based podcast where we interview some interesting people.

00:04:31.000 Also been traveling around the world for the last two years, just knocking about, getting my boots on the ground.

00:04:35.000 So I've got a travel channel where we do a few little passion projects.

00:04:39.000 We just did a show where we went to Pablo Escobar's old mansions in his old prison.

00:04:44.000 And got one coming out where we're going to be interviewing the, well, we already did interview the survivors of the killing fields in Cambodia.

00:04:51.000 And as a Timcast exclusive, you heard it here first, myself and Andrew Wilson are starting a political commentary show just when you thought I didn't need any more channels, which will be launching in about a month called Not One Step Back, N1SB. And shout out to Andrew Wilson.

00:05:06.000 His birthday today, I think he turns about 85. We actually just had him on a culture war debate show as well.

00:05:12.000 We love having him on debate.

00:05:13.000 It'd be fun.

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00:05:15.000 Hey everybody, what's up?

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00:05:17.000 I'm a field reporter and resident neocon here at TimCast. 0.95

00:05:21.000 Jake, it's good to have you.

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00:05:38.000 Phil, what's up?

00:05:39.000 Hello, everybody.

00:05:39.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:05:40.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:05:42.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:05:44.000 Let's go, Tim.

00:05:45.000 I do have one more update, too.

00:05:47.000 We are going to leave West Virginia.

00:05:49.000 I'm at my wit's end with the state.

00:05:52.000 I do feel bad because I know that the administration has recently changed and they are trying to fix the state.

00:05:58.000 It was a long Democrat state.

00:06:00.000 But so long as they're choosing to enforce some of the laws they have on the books, especially one they passed in 2021, which effectively bans individuals from working as contractors, I did not know they did that.

00:06:11.000 It's similar to what California did.

00:06:14.000 It is one of the most shockingly offensive laws I have ever heard of.

00:06:19.000 And we will get into that a little bit later on because it's a bit more esoteric.

00:06:22.000 But it does matter.

00:06:24.000 I want to say this.

00:06:25.000 There is a move happening across the country to effectively make it illegal for individuals to do work unless they are under the employment control of a company.

00:06:35.000 Or they register with the state as a formal legal entity.

00:06:39.000 And I believe this is part of the you will live in the pot and eat the bugs.

00:06:43.000 It's largely gone unnoticed, except in California, where it resulted in tens of thousands of people losing their jobs.

00:06:49.000 In smaller states or less populated states like West Virginia, nobody noticed these things were happening.

00:06:54.000 But I'll put it simple.

00:06:55.000 People seem to think when I'm saying contractor, I'm talking about a construction worker.

00:06:59.000 I'm talking about hiring someone to build me a birdhouse or draw a picture of a giraffe.

00:07:03.000 You can't do it!

00:07:05.000 It is insane what we are dealing with right now.

00:07:08.000 I am so offended.

00:07:09.000 I've never been so offended in my life.

00:07:11.000 That's how insane this law is.

00:07:13.000 We'll talk about that later.

00:07:14.000 We'll talk about the news first, because I know some of you are probably like, yeah, I don't know what that's all about.

00:07:17.000 But it is important.

00:07:19.000 Here's a story from the Post Millennial breaking Trump signs executive order to declassify JFK, RFK, and MLK files.

00:07:26.000 Everything will be revealed.

00:07:27.000 We have this video here.

00:07:29.000 I'm going to play for you.

00:07:30.000 It is an amazing video.

00:07:31.000 Some say it's the best.

00:07:32.000 Lastly, sir, we have an executive order ordering the declassification of files relating to the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert F. Kennedy and Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

00:07:45.000 That's a big one, huh?

00:07:46.000 A lot of people are waiting for this for a long, for years, for decades.

00:07:52.000 And everything will be revealed. - Thank you.

00:08:03.000 Someone's going to be in trouble.

00:08:06.000 Give that to RFK Jr. That was the best!

00:08:12.000 He says give that one to RFK Jr. Could you imagine?

00:08:17.000 Hugh Joe Rogan, hey?

00:08:18.000 Yeah.

00:08:19.000 I love this one.

00:08:20.000 This is going to be nuts.

00:08:22.000 So I don't know when the exact date is.

00:08:24.000 We can read.

00:08:25.000 On Thursday afternoon, after nearly 61 years, the files in the assassination of JFK were declassified by Trump.

00:08:31.000 The files in the assassination of MLK Jr. RFK will also be released.

00:08:35.000 Kennedy was shot in 1963. We understand this.

00:08:38.000 Saying in the coming days, we're going to make public remaining records.

00:08:40.000 This we understand.

00:08:41.000 So maybe we do have an update so far on this one.

00:08:43.000 So they said that it's going to be unredacted.

00:08:45.000 Is that what he means?

00:08:47.000 Everything's going to be revealed?

00:08:48.000 Yeah.

00:08:48.000 And while I believe, I heard it will be in March when it formally is released.

00:08:53.000 I'm not entirely sure.

00:08:55.000 But the language of the executive order has been released, and we do have it, so let's read it so we can understand.

00:09:01.000 I don't know if we need to read literally everything about it, but it says, President John F. Kennedy's Assassination Records Collection Act of 1982 required all records related to the assassination to be publicly disclosed in full October 26,

00:09:28.000 2017, unless the president certifies that continued postponement is made necessary, etc., etc.

00:09:33.000 I previously accepted proposed redactions from executive departments and agencies in 17 and 18, but ordered the continued reevaluation of those remaining redactions, and blah, blah, blah, he says.

00:09:43.000 I ordered agencies to re-review.

00:09:45.000 In the next three years, it disclosed that no longer warrants continue withholding.

00:09:48.000 President Biden issued subsequent certifications with respect to those records in 21, 22, and 23, which gave agencies additional time to review the records.

00:09:55.000 I have not determined that the continued redaction and withholding of information from the records pertaining to the assassination of JFK is not consistent with public interest, and the release of these records is long overdue.

00:10:04.000 Within 15 days of this order, the DNI and Attorney General shall, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs and the Council to the President, present a plan to the President for the full and complete release of records relating to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy within 45 days of this order.

00:10:21.000 The Director of National Intelligence and Attorney General shall in coordination with the assistant to the president review records related to the assassination and present a plan for the president for the full and complete release of those records.

00:10:32.000 That second one was RFK and MLK Jr. So, right, that's what we heard.

00:10:35.000 By March, they should be totally released, but JFK coming soon. 0.52

00:10:39.000 Are we going to learn that LBJ collude with the CIA to kill the president?

00:10:44.000 I don't know about LBJ. But I mean, honestly, I haven't done any kind of digging into the JFK assassination stuff.

00:10:53.000 I always figured it was Lee Harvey Oswald and Anna.

00:10:57.000 And at least one accomplice.

00:10:58.000 What are the going theories?

00:11:00.000 I mean, you were saying that you think that Israel did it a lot?

00:11:02.000 I mean, if Israel wasn't involved, then I don't think anybody would be interested. 0.88

00:11:06.000 I think the question is...

00:11:07.000 The question is not who did it.

00:11:09.000 The question is, did Israel do it?

00:11:11.000 And how did Israel do it? 0.83

00:11:13.000 It is going to be funny when the day before the documents release, all of those anti-Israel people on the internet are going to be foaming at the mouth.

00:11:21.000 And the day after, if Israel's not mentioned, they're going to pretend it doesn't exist.

00:11:26.000 She's already tweeted, if they say anything about Iran or someone else, I'm going to lose it or whatever.

00:11:32.000 She's already primed for it to be Israel. 0.96

00:11:35.000 So it is a suggestion that Trump is signing the executive order to release fabricated information implicating Iran for the benefit of American interests to go to war with Iran.

00:11:45.000 It was before they even had beef with Iran.

00:11:47.000 It was in the 60s.

00:11:48.000 Didn't beef start in 1979?

00:11:49.000 That's not important.

00:11:51.000 It could be Russia.

00:11:51.000 I guess the USA were in Iran with the communism before 1979.

00:11:54.000 Or they released fake documents implicating Iran was somehow involved so that we could justify military intervention.

00:11:59.000 And a lot is nodding his head.

00:12:00.000 I don't think no matter what will come out from this, I don't think anybody will be satisfied with that.

00:12:05.000 I think it'll likely just say Lee Harvey Oswald likely acted alone, and then people will just...

00:12:10.000 Just say there's more redacted stuff and not be satisfied with that.

00:12:12.000 You think it'll say he acted alone?

00:12:14.000 Something like that.

00:12:15.000 I don't think we're going to get all of the juice that we want to out of this squeeze.

00:12:20.000 Did you mean to say the juice or did you mean?

00:12:23.000 It's funny too because we don't focus on the RFK murder.

00:12:26.000 He was murdered by a Palestinian activist, Sirhan Sirhan.

00:12:29.000 I actually asked RFK Jr. about this specifically.

00:12:32.000 He said that he doesn't think there was any foul play involved in that assassination attempt.

00:12:36.000 Sirhan Sirhan, was he controlled by the Mossad?

00:12:38.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:12:39.000 If he wasn't, then it's not interesting to talk about.

00:12:41.000 So, you know, if you kind of can't thread the needle with that.

00:12:45.000 It wasn't the guy who then killed Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby, wasn't he an Israeli... 0.94

00:12:49.000 Was he an Israeli national or was he just Jewish?

00:12:52.000 I think it was a Jewish guy.

00:12:53.000 The guy who killed Lee Harvey Oswald and then allegedly is involved in the cover-up of it because if the guy's dead, then you can't...

00:13:00.000 Have you read the book?

00:13:01.000 The book Chaos goes through how there was some sort of...

00:13:04.000 During the MKUltra, there was some doctor who was heavily involved in it who also interviewed Jack Ruby and maybe Jack Ruby had some sort of MKUltra stuff happening behind the scenes.

00:13:12.000 Well, I'm not too sure that JFK and RFK weren't involved in the Lolita Express with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:13:19.000 I'm kidding.

00:13:19.000 That was a joke.

00:13:21.000 No, no, no.

00:13:22.000 That was a big joke.

00:13:23.000 Because, no, we don't have the Epstein files anymore.

00:13:25.000 It just seems to be swept under the table.

00:13:26.000 I wonder if MKUltra could come out that it's an MKUltra.

00:13:29.000 Well, I have been reliably informed by Dr. Ron Paul himself.

00:13:33.000 It was the CIA. It's kind of crazy because when I was growing up, the implication that there was any kind of conspiracy would get you ridiculed.

00:13:42.000 And today, it's just like Ron Paul comes on the show and he's like, the CIA did it.

00:13:46.000 And we were like, oh.

00:13:47.000 The widely accepted theory is that the CIA... The theory is that after the Bay of Pigs was such a colossal failure, Kennedy was like, the CIA can't do the job that they're essentially designed to do, so we're going to get rid of CIA, and then so CIA hired...

00:14:05.000 You know, people or whether it be Lee Harvey Oswald or multiple people to kill Kennedy.

00:14:11.000 And I mean, whatever anyone's opinion of it is, honestly, that story does seem to be the most legit because the CIA had had done a bunch of things to try and get Castro and they'd failed multiple times.

00:14:26.000 There had been a lot of and it put a lot of egg on the face of the administration.

00:14:29.000 And so when Kennedy was like, look, this is not working and this is actually fairly anti-American.

00:14:35.000 We need to rein these people in.

00:14:38.000 They were like, well, you know, that was that was essentially the there.

00:14:42.000 The argument goes that that was the actual beginning of the deep state, right?

00:14:46.000 The administrative state, the intelligence apparatus decided that they were more important than a president, and from then on, the country's been run by CIA, State Department, and DOD as the blob, which is what Mike Benz.

00:15:00.000 Have you guys ever seen the movie Shooter with, um, what's his face?

00:15:05.000 Marky Mark?

00:15:06.000 Mark Wahlberg?

00:15:06.000 No.

00:15:07.000 You haven't seen Shooter?

00:15:08.000 Nope.

00:15:09.000 Really?

00:15:09.000 None of you guys?

00:15:10.000 No.

00:15:10.000 Yeah, yeah, Serge has seen it.

00:15:11.000 Have you seen it?

00:15:12.000 I think I have, yeah.

00:15:13.000 Oh, it's so good.

00:15:14.000 They basically, it very much feels like it's about the JFK assassination.

00:15:19.000 Basically, Mark Wahlberg is a retired military sniper of some sort, and he gets approached by the government.

00:15:24.000 They're like, we fear someone's going to try and make an assassination on this politician, and we need an expert who can tell us how they might do it.

00:15:31.000 And so he's like, I don't want to do it.

00:15:33.000 And they're like, well, make it worth your while.

00:15:34.000 So he's like, okay, I guess I agree.

00:15:36.000 And they bring him to this political event where they're like, Tell us where to look.

00:15:40.000 Where is he going to be?

00:15:41.000 And the guy's like, up there.

00:15:42.000 That's the spot he would do it from.

00:15:44.000 And then all of a sudden, he turns around. 0.91

00:15:45.000 There's some fat cop. 1.00

00:15:46.000 And the cop just shoots him. 0.96

00:15:48.000 And then Mark Wahlberg falls out the window.

00:15:51.000 Basically, they brought him there to frame him as the assassin, tricking him, asking him for security consultation.

00:15:58.000 And then it's like this big conspiracy.

00:16:00.000 The movie's pretty good.

00:16:01.000 And it's basically...

00:16:02.000 Somebody in Hollywood was like...

00:16:04.000 Here's how I think the JFK thing went down, and here's what really happened.

00:16:08.000 And so they decided to make a movie based on that, like, conspiracy theory.

00:16:11.000 Maybe I'm just a sucker for a mainstream narrative, but if this Thomas Crooks guy was able to get a clean shot off at Donald Trump, and we believe that he acted alone, then I don't think it's beyond reason that Lee Harvey...

00:16:23.000 Do you think he acted alone?

00:16:25.000 I think that's the official narrative.

00:16:26.000 Do you think he acted alone?

00:16:28.000 Yes.

00:16:28.000 You do.

00:16:28.000 I got a bridge.

00:16:29.000 You want to buy it?

00:16:30.000 In Brooklyn?

00:16:31.000 It's in Brooklyn.

00:16:31.000 Well, then maybe in a hundred years we'll have more information come out about this Matthew Crooks guy.

00:16:36.000 But the official story coming out now is...

00:16:38.000 What are days, man?

00:16:39.000 Donald Trump is in the administration and he was the target.

00:16:44.000 He should declassify that first.

00:16:46.000 Yeah.

00:16:47.000 I suppose, though, in terms of things going on right now, maybe he wouldn't do it because...

00:16:51.000 Could you imagine what would happen if Trump declassified and it was like...

00:16:55.000 Elements within the US government or in private sector colluded to try and take his life.

00:17:00.000 What that would do to this country, I don't know that Trump would want to see.

00:17:03.000 Do you think that they would have covered their tracks to the point where they know that he has potential, if they miss, to get into the White House next?

00:17:09.000 So they're going to be covering their tracks so that he doesn't have anything to release once he's in.

00:17:15.000 Well, you know, one of the original excuses for not releasing the JFK files early on was that people who were involved in the case in one way or another were still alive, and they didn't want people chasing down those people.

00:17:25.000 So I guess the same principles could be applied for anybody involved in the Thomas Crook stuff.

00:17:31.000 Or incompetencies in the Secret Service leading to...

00:17:34.000 Yeah, look, they might make the same argument, but honestly...

00:17:37.000 Considering that it's not something that has been covered up for a long time, and Donald Trump got elected and he was the target, it makes perfect sense for the administration to say, we're going to find out what happened, where the failures were, and if there was some kind of nefarious plot, we're going to expose that, and we're going to put those people in jail.

00:17:57.000 You would think that that would be up top of the agenda?

00:18:00.000 Did they try to kill somebody who was running for president?

00:18:02.000 Yeah, that's not an unreasonable...

00:18:04.000 Ask at all.

00:18:05.000 That is something that should be completely obvious that the administration would do.

00:18:11.000 The questionable behavior would be if they don't look into it.

00:18:15.000 I think it's just that Trump is just such a G that he just takes it in his stride and doesn't sit there complaining.

00:18:20.000 Like, imagine if that happened to Joe Biden or imagine if that happened to Kamala Harris.

00:18:24.000 They would still be sort of begging for sympathy.

00:18:26.000 We would still, like, all the flags wouldn't be at half-mass for Jimmy Carter.

00:18:30.000 They would still be at half-mass for Obama's ear, and we would have to hear about it.

00:18:36.000 We would have heard about it every single day since last August.

00:18:41.000 I gotta be honest.

00:18:43.000 Trump missed a lot of opportunities with the attempt on his life.

00:18:46.000 There's tons of Star Wars memes that he could have entertained.

00:18:51.000 And he didn't.

00:18:53.000 And, you know, sometimes I wonder if the sense of humor on this guy.

00:18:56.000 Could you imagine?

00:18:57.000 Let's jump to this next story.

00:18:59.000 We got this one from Politico.

00:19:01.000 Time to admit it.

00:19:02.000 Trump is a great president.

00:19:03.000 He's still trying to be a good one.

00:19:05.000 What a world we find ourselves in, ladies and gentlemen, where Politico is calling Trump a great president.

00:19:10.000 Now, they go on to say they're not saying that he's, like, moral and good.

00:19:14.000 They're saying that he is the greatest president, the president of consequence of our lifetime.

00:19:20.000 And they go on to mention that he appears messianic to his followers in tone.

00:19:27.000 And then we have this.

00:19:28.000 President Trump job approval.

00:19:30.000 Since he began, it has only been a few days, admittedly, But the polls show Donald Trump with a 13-point aggregate net approval, the highest he has ever enjoyed, ever.

00:19:41.000 And his favorability is currently above water.

00:19:45.000 That has only happened one other time, and that was in December.

00:19:48.000 When Trump first got into office in his first term, his favorability was in the gutter.

00:19:51.000 It remained very low.

00:19:53.000 In December of last year, it briefly spiked at.2, and this is aggregate.

00:19:58.000 And as of right now, at about.2%, Donald Trump is favorable.

00:20:02.000 So you'd expect this because people are going to be like, I don't like the guy, but he's doing a good job.

00:20:07.000 And that's what we're seeing.

00:20:08.000 But a 13% aggregate approval rating right off the bat is massive.

00:20:14.000 And I will add, as a cherry on top, Joe Biden exited his presidency with the lowest approval rating of any president in recorded history.

00:20:26.000 Now that's the most popular president in history, Tim.

00:20:28.000 That's right.

00:20:29.000 I mean, I'll play that game.

00:20:32.000 I will absolutely play that game, and I will tell every Democrat, what did you do wrong in policy that resulted in the most popular president ever becoming the least popular president ever?

00:20:43.000 Certainly, something related to his policies led to the most popular becoming the least approved.

00:20:49.000 Well, that's a good point.

00:20:50.000 If we want to eat the narrative, the given narrative about what happened in the 2020 election, then okay, we can now eat it and say, well, didn't you guys mess up?

00:20:58.000 Didn't you guys mess up?

00:20:59.000 And then what we can do is we can say, let's take a look at all the policies that Democrats rolled out in those four years and then explain how this man who got more votes than any president in history then went on to enact these set of policies and it resulted in him having the lowest recorded approval rating in the history of this country.

00:21:20.000 What do they mean in the article by he's a great but he's not...

00:21:23.000 But he's trying to be a good one.

00:21:24.000 So they're saying great as in...

00:21:26.000 Prosperous, grand, yes.

00:21:29.000 And they're saying good...

00:21:31.000 The article's like, we're not saying he's good and morally great.

00:21:34.000 We're saying that he's of consequence.

00:21:36.000 Okay, I see. 0.99

00:21:38.000 Ridiculous. 0.97

00:21:38.000 What do they consider good? 0.97

00:21:39.000 Do they consider Joe Biden's hair sniffing and bombing new wars and prosecuting your political opponents?

00:21:45.000 Is that good?

00:21:46.000 Good is just nice.

00:21:48.000 If they say the nice things, the things that will make people say, oh, that's the nice thing to say.

00:21:55.000 That kind of stuff.

00:21:56.000 It's almost like you can't call a president good if they are doing good things.

00:22:00.000 To be fair, if Donald Trump came out right now and said that he was going to do everything he can to help Ukraine win the war, including sending wave after wave of his own men into battle, every mainstream corporate news outlet would be like, Trump is a good president.

00:22:14.000 He is virtuous.

00:22:15.000 We were wrong.

00:22:16.000 Did you remember on CNN when he bombed Syria for the first time and then Zachariah came out and was like...

00:22:22.000 Trump became president today.

00:22:24.000 He looks presidential now.

00:22:25.000 Unreal. 0.97

00:22:26.000 The idea that you have to engage in military action to be presidential, I think that's kind of ridiculous. 0.84

00:22:34.000 It does come with the territory. 0.53

00:22:35.000 You can't deny that fact.

00:22:37.000 But to say that he wasn't presidential until then, I think that's just absurd.

00:22:42.000 Yeah.

00:22:42.000 It was a slide on his presidency.

00:22:44.000 What do you think is causing...

00:22:46.000 What they're saying right now is Trump's approval rating is the honeymoon phase.

00:22:50.000 When he first got elected, he was a four-point net approval, and it dropped within three days.

00:22:56.000 Thirteen is pretty large.

00:22:58.000 What do you guys think?

00:22:59.000 Is this just a honeymoon that's going to go away?

00:23:01.000 A honeymoon phase is Kamala's TikTok campaign.

00:23:04.000 That was a honeymoon phase when she's doing the green screen dancing. 1.00

00:23:07.000 And then after a few weeks, it goes back into the toilet.

00:23:09.000 That's a honeymoon phase.

00:23:11.000 Look, this is like the weight of expectation being realized.

00:23:13.000 Yeah, the Dow Jones Industrial Average hit a new all-time high again today.

00:23:19.000 You know, crypto is doing well, if I understand correctly.

00:23:22.000 These kind of things add to a sense of well-being to the American population because most...

00:23:28.000 Well, not most people, but a significant portion of the American population has things like 401ks and they have some kind of savings.

00:23:34.000 So those people look at their 401ks, they look at their portfolios and they say, well, this is good.

00:23:40.000 About the only thing that you can see the Democrats really criticizing Donald Trump on is something that he has no control over, which is the cost of eggs because of the bird flu or whatever that's happened.

00:23:51.000 So there's a problem with getting eggs.

00:23:54.000 That's got nothing to do with Donald Trump.

00:23:59.000 I think that that stuff has a significant effect on his approval rating.

00:24:18.000 The fact that he keeps doing things people say they want.

00:24:21.000 I want to gloat.

00:24:22.000 I'm going to brag.

00:24:24.000 About the massive wealth that we here at Timcast have in our ability to get eggs.

00:24:29.000 And it's not money.

00:24:31.000 It's chickens.

00:24:32.000 And everybody right now, you know, when that story came out about how stores have run out of eggs and there's a shortage because they're culling chickens, I warned you.

00:24:40.000 But you know what?

00:24:41.000 I hate to say I told you so.

00:24:42.000 Make chickens great again, huh? 0.99

00:24:43.000 That's right.

00:24:44.000 Absolutely.

00:24:45.000 That's right, good sir.

00:24:46.000 From Australia, we love our chickens.

00:24:47.000 There you go. 0.99

00:24:48.000 So, but now that I've just interrupted with stupid inanities, I don't know, Alal, what do you think? 0.98

00:24:54.000 Trump's been a larger-than-life figure as soon as he kind of came on the political scene. 0.99

00:24:58.000 And I think for many people, though, it pushed him over that edge with the assassination attempt in Butler and just the way it happened and the way he kind of escaped death by twisting his head.

00:25:08.000 So for a lot of his evangelical base, that really pushed him over the edge to a...

00:25:13.000 It makes it seem as though that he survived for a particular reason.

00:25:16.000 And I believe that in his heart of...

00:25:18.000 Trump believes that he was able to survive that assassination attempt for a reason.

00:25:23.000 I believe he thinks it's so he was going to be able to save America.

00:25:27.000 I think he's still riding a high from that assassination attempt with a rally around the flag effect.

00:25:32.000 I think this is about as high as his approval ratings are going to get.

00:25:35.000 But these are amazing heights that we're seeing, even to begin with.

00:25:38.000 I think it's an all-time high, even for Donald Trump.

00:25:40.000 So as soon as he hits some major roadblocks is when we're going to see...

00:25:45.000 When some major decisions have to be made.

00:25:47.000 But we're only, what, a day or two in, so.

00:25:49.000 It's three days, and I guess today was the fourth day.

00:25:54.000 Trump's approval has never been above 50%.

00:25:57.000 Just in the beginning of his first term for a couple days.

00:26:01.000 This is the only other time and it is the highest it has ever been.

00:26:04.000 Yeah, and especially because it feels as though this past election was in a referendum on whether or not you liked Donald Trump's presidency or Joe Biden's presidency more.

00:26:12.000 And I feel like people were having that nostalgia for Donald Trump through the Joe Biden presidency.

00:26:17.000 And that's what brought so many people who might not have typically supported Donald Trump in the past on board for his campaign.

00:26:23.000 I will say this.

00:26:24.000 I feel like Trump's cult-like following, too, is unique in our modern American politics.

00:26:29.000 No other politician has anything near the supporter base who is loyal to Donald Trump, no matter what he does and says, is unique in this modern era.

00:26:38.000 AOC has it differently.

00:26:39.000 Bernie Sanders has it differently.

00:26:40.000 Trump can do no wrong in the eyes of many of his supporters, and I think that's a big part of...

00:26:45.000 Currently or ever?

00:26:46.000 Now.

00:26:47.000 Currently.

00:26:47.000 I would say that Barack Obama had a similar...

00:26:54.000 Cult of personality, essentially.

00:26:55.000 I wouldn't say it was the same fervor that we're seeing, at least in my estimation.

00:27:01.000 Do you think it would win if they were to run against each other in their peak?

00:27:04.000 It's just like Mike Tyson versus Ali in their peak.

00:27:06.000 It depends on the era.

00:27:08.000 It depends on when it's happening.

00:27:09.000 Because Donald Trump was a reaction to Barack Obama in many ways.

00:27:13.000 There's also this one thing, I forgot it, it was the correspondence dinner when Obama made a slight at Donald Trump, and it was one of the major things that inspired him to run originally.

00:27:20.000 So it's like...

00:27:21.000 Is that when he said he will never be president?

00:27:22.000 Yeah.

00:27:23.000 And then they zoom in on Donald Trump's face angrily.

00:27:25.000 Sweet vengeance.

00:27:27.000 He did it when he did the reading mean tweets, but he also did it at the Correspondents' Dinner.

00:27:33.000 I think the Correspondents' Dinner, with a room full of people while Donald Trump is there laughing at Donald Trump's expense, I think that's when he was like, I'm going to run for president.

00:27:43.000 F you.

00:27:44.000 And then, obviously, we know what happened from then.

00:27:47.000 But I do think that Barack Obama is directly responsible for MAGA and Donald Trump.

00:27:54.000 Because before MAGA, it was the Tea Party.

00:27:57.000 And the Tea Party was strongly disrespected by people like Barack Obama and the Democrats.

00:28:02.000 And they were generally like, well, we need to be the nice Republicans.

00:28:07.000 And then once they were...

00:28:09.000 You know, treated so badly for simply saying things like, we want low taxes and we don't want to have a big socialist-style government.

00:28:18.000 The response was to call them names and stuff.

00:28:21.000 And so then they were just like, well, you know what?

00:28:23.000 Mitt Romney's not getting the job done, so let's go to the guy that'll go ahead and throw his middle fingers up.

00:28:29.000 There was too long a period of these docile Republicans that were just playing the, well, slow down there, Democrats.

00:28:35.000 And then Donald Trump was like, if you elect me, I'll smash the door.

00:28:39.000 And people were like, all right.

00:28:40.000 Do you guys think that there's going to be a legacy of Trump, of Trumpers in the White House from now on?

00:28:46.000 I think that we could see one of his sons and then eventually Barron.

00:28:48.000 Yes.

00:28:48.000 I think we could see a hundred years of Trumpers in politics.

00:28:51.000 About a hundred years?

00:28:54.000 Because...

00:28:54.000 I don't see Don Jr. or Eric as being president.

00:29:00.000 Trump Sr. is a unique figure, but Barron, Barron I definitely see.

00:29:07.000 Yeah, aside from the fact that he's like 8'7".

00:29:10.000 They don't live long.

00:29:11.000 Tall people don't live long.

00:29:12.000 That's true.

00:29:13.000 There was a viral post where a tall guy was asked by his doctor, have you ever seen a tall old person?

00:29:20.000 So, but I think Barron is going to have a massive impact.

00:29:23.000 Who knows?

00:29:24.000 You never know.

00:29:25.000 But from what I hear, being raised around, like growing up in this world of cutthroat politics that his dad is going through has made him incredibly savvy and understanding how the political machine works.

00:29:38.000 That means that if he does decide to go this route, he is going to be better at this than anyone around him.

00:29:45.000 Yeah.

00:29:46.000 There's also Laura Trump, who is already co-chair of the, what is it, the RNC. So she already has her foot in the pond. 0.80

00:29:53.000 I don't think a woman will ever be president. 1.00

00:29:55.000 When they look back at Donald Trump, well, that's part of why Trump is 2-0.

00:29:59.000 When they look back on the Trump legacy, I think he'll be one of the last forces.

00:30:03.000 He's going to be known as the last guy who was able to unite the Republican Party behind him.

00:30:08.000 I think we're in for a major shift in both of the parties.

00:30:11.000 And Donald Trump will be known as the last guy on the right who was able to get the pro- Do you guys think that the days of the canned Republican are over?

00:30:27.000 Because I think one of the things that's attractive about Trump is that he does, you know, he sits down and he talks off the cuff.

00:30:33.000 He's done more interviews in his first three days than President Biden did his whole...

00:30:41.000 I'm in office.

00:30:42.000 And that's not an exaggeration.

00:30:44.000 He's talked to the press more in the past three days than Biden has done or did in his whole time in office.

00:30:51.000 So do you think that that's what the future holds?

00:30:55.000 And do you think that that will be something that...

00:30:58.000 The Democrats emulate?

00:30:59.000 Yeah, I think that Don Jr. will be president one day.

00:31:03.000 If I was a gambling man, I'd put money on that.

00:31:05.000 But the style.

00:31:06.000 Good thing you are, not a gambling man.

00:31:08.000 He's got a similar sort of swagger to his old man in that regard.

00:31:10.000 But if you look at the next wave coming out, you've got Vance who can do that.

00:31:13.000 I think he still needs to prove himself a little bit because he was a never-Trumper. 0.98

00:31:16.000 And if the storm really comes and he sticks by Trump's side, then I think people will sort of...

00:31:22.000 Endear to him more than ones who haven't already.

00:31:25.000 And then if you've got Vivek, I think Vivek will have a comeback. 0.98

00:31:27.000 I think it would be ridiculous to write Vivek off after one stupid Twitter post that was quite... 1.00

00:31:32.000 It was a very stupid... 1.00

00:31:32.000 It was quite... 1.00

00:31:33.000 It was pretty revealing.

00:31:34.000 It's antithetical to...

00:31:34.000 But Donald Trump...

00:31:36.000 And it's wild to me, the story has not gotten traction.

00:31:39.000 Gave a speech where he said, this was just the other day, he supports H-1B because we need wine experts and waiters.

00:31:46.000 And waiters, yeah.

00:31:47.000 I'm like, where is the outrage?

00:31:49.000 That was worse than what Vivek said.

00:31:50.000 Well, he's Donald Trump, so he could get away with that stuff.

00:31:52.000 Vivek Ramaswamy cannot get away with that stuff.

00:31:54.000 I don't know if he can.

00:31:55.000 I think that he had a whole movement pushing back against him in this election of people who were saying, no, no, no, you're not radical enough.

00:32:01.000 Even a lot of the Catholics were saying...

00:32:02.000 I feel like he was astroturfed to begin with, to be fair, though, as far as Vivek Ramaswamy goes.

00:32:07.000 Yeah.

00:32:07.000 But you guys don't want...

00:32:08.000 I mean, you look at India, they've got whole industries around getting people fake degrees and getting people fake qualifications in order to get visas. 1.00

00:32:16.000 It's massive in Australia.

00:32:18.000 Let's talk about immigration.

00:32:19.000 We got this story from the Post Millennial.

00:32:21.000 Breaking!

00:32:22.000 Federal judge temporarily blocks Trump executive order ending birthright citizenship.

00:32:26.000 The case was brought forth by the Attorneys General of Arizona, Oregon, Washington, and Illinois on Tuesday against the executive order.

00:32:33.000 U.S. District Judge John Koffenauer issued the ruling in a case brought forth by the attorney generals.

00:32:39.000 According to ABC News, the suit stated the plaintiff states will also suffer irreparable harm because thousands of children will be born within their borders but denied full participation and opportunity in American society.

00:32:48.000 Absent a temporary restraining order, children born in the plaintiff states will soon be rendered undocumented, subject to removal or detention, and many stateless.

00:32:58.000 Let me just stress this to everybody who watched our amazing episode with Thomas Massey.

00:33:04.000 There was a question about the intent of the 14th Amendment, which of course states that all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction therein are citizens.

00:33:14.000 And as I described it, as my limited readings of the Civil War, I am by no means an expert, it was very easy to conclude the intention of the 14th Amendment was descriptive, not prescriptive, that the amendment was stating...

00:33:30.000 All of the people as of right now who were born here and subject to our jurisdiction are citizens, right?

00:33:35.000 Done.

00:33:36.000 And here's where gets better.

00:33:38.000 The argument is, no, no, it means that from this point forward, anybody who's born here is a citizen.

00:33:44.000 That's actually not correct, and I have the tweet just for you, because it was Jacob B. Howard during the congressional debates on the 14th Amendment specifically addressing the issue, and I quote, This amendment, which I have offered, is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States and subject to their jurisdiction is by virtue of natural law and natural law a citizen of the United States.

00:34:10.000 This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of person.

00:34:23.000 It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States.

00:34:29.000 It's long been a great desideratum, pronouncing that wrong, in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.

00:34:36.000 He quite literally stated in 1866 in the debate in written historical quote, this will not include foreigners, aliens, etc., So how, for the life of me, we got to this point where we were just like literally anybody at any point who comes here and has a kid, that kid's a citizen, is insane.

00:34:56.000 I believe it is corrupt individuals seeking to corrupt ends to corrupt this country, and that is how, not even that long after this man died, he died only, I believe, about five years after this debate.

00:35:08.000 They immediately said, well, you know, now that we think about it, he must have meant everybody for all time.

00:35:13.000 And here we are with this great conundrum as to what it means for this country to be a citizen.

00:35:18.000 Donald Trump is correct in this executive order, and I hope the Supreme Court finds it as such.

00:35:23.000 There are a lot of people that...

00:35:24.000 Well, in case you're not aware of it, this is the next necessary step to get this in front of the Supreme Court.

00:35:32.000 So this is exactly why Donald Trump made the executive order, so that way someone would challenge it, so that way you can go ahead and go through the necessary steps to get in front of the Supreme Court.

00:35:44.000 As somebody who was...

00:35:46.000 Who's looking for a citizenship myself at the moment?

00:35:49.000 I kind of wish my mom had looked ahead.

00:35:51.000 But it is kind of crazy that you can do that and you can just have a baby and your family history from then on is forged in America.

00:35:57.000 How absurd is it?

00:35:58.000 I'm about to have a kid.

00:35:59.000 I was talking to Allison.

00:36:00.000 I'm like, should we just take a trip quick up to Canada real quick?

00:36:03.000 That way our kid will have the option of Canadian citizenship and American citizenship.

00:36:08.000 And she looked me dead in the eyes and said, who won?

00:36:09.000 God's greener if we want a Canadian city. 0.85

00:36:11.000 We all laughed and high-fived and then we carried on for a day.

00:36:14.000 It's actually not what happened.

00:36:16.000 It should be another state, shouldn't it?

00:36:17.000 Are you guys going to annex it at some point?

00:36:19.000 Yeah, but the problem is it would be several states.

00:36:22.000 Like, Texas was going to be five different states because it's so big.

00:36:25.000 And then it chose to be one.

00:36:26.000 It would have been great if it was five.

00:36:28.000 It would probably be another Democrat state as well.

00:36:31.000 Yeah, the border, the southern...

00:36:32.000 If Texas was five states, the southern border ones would be Democrat. 0.98

00:36:36.000 Yeah, that's the thing about Canada.

00:36:37.000 It would be broken up into several states.

00:36:39.000 There certainly are very many conservative areas.

00:36:41.000 There would be more red states added.

00:36:43.000 But, you know, no, we don't want Canada.

00:36:47.000 We need comprehensive immigration reform from Congress and not the executive branch.

00:36:53.000 And that's why I think a lot of this stuff is going to get muddied.

00:36:56.000 I'm not a lawyer.

00:36:57.000 I can't perfectly break down how this law is going to be interpreted.

00:37:01.000 And I feel like you could interpret it both ways depending on how you would like to.

00:37:04.000 It's a question of the Supreme Court.

00:37:05.000 Not necessarily of Congress.

00:37:07.000 The Supreme Court is going to answer the question on the 14th Amendment, and I hope they answer it correctly, as for Jacob B. Howard, I believe his name was, his exact quote.

00:37:16.000 It's remarkable.

00:37:17.000 He literally said it does not include, of course, will not include foreigners or aliens.

00:37:22.000 And yet here we are.

00:37:24.000 That is so shockingly offensive.

00:37:27.000 At some point, some judge was just like, nah, we want it to.

00:37:30.000 And like, well, okay, now we have a crisis.

00:37:33.000 So the next step is obviously going to be with this temporary block, there's going to be an appeal, it's going to go to SCOTUS, and we're likely going to see what is a six to three court issue their ruling.

00:37:43.000 Passport bros take advantage of this stuff, you know?

00:37:45.000 You get the passport bros around the world who will be like, all right, I'm going to have a baby.

00:37:49.000 Argentina, Mexico, new passports, new passports every single time for the family.

00:37:52.000 So you don't want to be one of those countries.

00:37:55.000 Do you guys, do you have any sense that should the Supreme Court rule that If someone is born here, it doesn't matter the circumstances.

00:38:03.000 Essentially, anchor babies are acceptable under the Constitution.

00:38:07.000 Do you think that the American people have the stomach to actually produce an amendment and change that?

00:38:13.000 Produce an amendment?

00:38:14.000 I don't think it would pass.

00:38:15.000 That's the thing.

00:38:16.000 No, they wouldn't be able to pass the threshold to do it, I don't think.

00:38:19.000 We're not going to get a new amendment ever.

00:38:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:38:22.000 That's my sense as well.

00:38:25.000 There's some people that I'm friendly with.

00:38:27.000 They're talking about this, and they say, well...

00:38:28.000 If this goes to the Supreme Court, because it's plainly worded and the Supreme Court finds that Donald Trump is right, that anchor babies aren't covered under the 14th Amendment, that's not what they meant, then they're going to call that judicial activism and that they're legislating on the bench.

00:38:45.000 Now, I don't really agree with that.

00:38:48.000 I don't think that that's the case because I do think that subject to the jurisdiction thereof, I think if you just get over the line and have a kid, I don't think the person's actually subject to the jurisdiction because they're not a citizen of the country.

00:39:00.000 Howard clarified this.

00:39:02.000 He actually stated in the debate that it does not involve partial jurisdiction.

00:39:05.000 It is only complete jurisdiction.

00:39:07.000 Okay, well, like I said, I'm only relating the argument that I don't agree with.

00:39:12.000 How long has it been there for?

00:39:13.000 Since 1860?

00:39:15.000 1866. The thing about our immigration system is literally every single part of it is being taken advantage of and being manipulated by actors without our best interest.

00:39:24.000 So not only are they taking advantage of birthright citizenship, people are taking advantage of our H-1B system and how they're getting work visas into our country.

00:39:32.000 1868, sorry.

00:39:34.000 Yeah, not even just birthright citizenship or the H-1B visa system.

00:39:38.000 They're also abusing chain migration where, you know, if you're an American citizen, you could marry somebody and then bring over their kids and they'll become American citizens too.

00:39:45.000 So there was originally supposed to be a limit when I believe they passed the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1945, something like that.

00:39:53.000 We need immigration reform on the grand scales.

00:39:56.000 And just doing it through executive action will leave us open to all of this being able to be undone.

00:40:03.000 I don't think we can rely on the Supreme Court trying to interpret different laws, different ways to try to get this goal done.

00:40:09.000 Congress needs to act.

00:40:10.000 We need new laws to be passed.

00:40:13.000 But if this is an amendment thing, it'll have to go to the Supreme Court.

00:40:16.000 It'll have to be the Supreme Court or it'll have to be an amendment. 0.90

00:40:19.000 Because this was passed long before Social Security, before any kind of government assistance program.

00:40:25.000 And the idea that you can come here...

00:40:28.000 Have a baby, get over the line, and have a baby two days, three days after you get here, and that child gets to stay, or even if the child gets to come back when he's 18 and bring the family back when they're older, then they get onto Social Security, then they get some kind of support from the federal government.

00:40:46.000 No American's going to be okay with that.

00:40:48.000 Well, even pragmatically, it's like birthright citizenship.

00:40:50.000 You have the kid.

00:40:51.000 It stays here.

00:40:52.000 But then it's going to be more difficult and ethically difficult to remove the parent as well.

00:40:58.000 Because just imagine how that plays on the news.

00:40:59.000 Oh, this kid's been an American here.

00:41:01.000 This kid's four years old.

00:41:02.000 And his dad's been here for five years.

00:41:04.000 And what?

00:41:04.000 Now you're just going to deport one person who's going to take care of the child.

00:41:07.000 And that's how they emotionally blackmail people into accepting amnesty for a number of be strong.

00:41:14.000 Be strong.

00:41:15.000 That's all I ask.

00:41:15.000 Be strong.

00:41:16.000 Tom Homan said they can go back with their family.

00:41:19.000 We'll keep the families together.

00:41:20.000 And he's right.

00:41:20.000 I am deeply offended that when Trump shuts down the border immediately because we know about the child trafficking going on.

00:41:27.000 The media plays an image of a crying woman.

00:41:30.000 Oh no, the woman's crying.

00:41:32.000 Quick, tear up the Constitution.

00:41:33.000 No, be strong.

00:41:35.000 Resist the manipulation attempts and be strong and say, listen, we are not doing this to make that woman suffer.

00:41:42.000 We are doing it because there's abhorrent evil happening on our border from murder to rape to child trafficking and it must be stopped.

00:41:50.000 And that means some nice people who are trying to enter illegally, I'm offended by that, but okay, are going to have to be told they can't come in and the port of entry is that way.

00:42:00.000 Yeah, you guys are going to have to get smart to this as well, because right now you've obviously got a wave of immigration happening from Latin America.

00:42:07.000 It's been happening since maybe the 60s, since you guys, since the, was it the Immigration Act of 1965 or something like that?

00:42:12.000 Before that, it was more Western European, Northern Europeans.

00:42:15.000 And then the next wave of immigration, if you're not careful, is going to be Indian, Chinese, etc. 0.99

00:42:20.000 It already is.

00:42:22.000 Yeah, but on a massive scale, like it's happened in Australia, for example.

00:42:25.000 And like it's happened in Europe, but it's happened from the Middle East in Europe.

00:42:28.000 And when these cultures clash, it's not like they're a bunch of Catholics coming in.

00:42:32.000 When these cultures clash, it is civilization destroying. 0.97

00:42:37.000 To be fair, they clashed with the Catholics when they first came here.

00:42:40.000 They do clash, but not to the extent where these people...

00:42:43.000 It's just a lot worse when you look at the Indian and the Chinese populations of Australia, for example. 1.00

00:42:49.000 That is different, but if you're talking about, you know...

00:42:52.000 Immigration from South America, that's a lot of Catholics.

00:42:54.000 So the problem is they're liberation theologist Catholics, they're socialist Catholics.

00:43:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:00.000 I'm not saying it's good.

00:43:03.000 Liberation theology?

00:43:04.000 You started to sound like James Lindsay with the socialist Catholics.

00:43:07.000 Liberation theology is a legit thing.

00:43:09.000 That's part of the reason why the current Pope from Argentina is like, a lot of Catholics are like... 1.00

00:43:16.000 When it comes to the current Pope, because, like, he's actually a liberation theology Catholic.

00:43:21.000 It's a different understanding of Catholicism.

00:43:23.000 Sounds like that lady who gave that sermon at the recent... 0.95

00:43:26.000 Well, she's Episcopalian, and so she's a heretic, so... 0.97

00:43:28.000 And you making fun of James Lindsay makes me think that you work right. 0.51

00:43:32.000 I'm just trying to have a good time on this Thursday evening.

00:43:37.000 So, yeah, I mean, I think that I would like to see the 14th Amendment, you know, I would like to see the court come back and say no.

00:43:44.000 It's clear...

00:43:45.000 That they didn't mean that anchor babies were a thing.

00:43:48.000 But I don't know for sure that that's what we get.

00:43:52.000 And I don't know what kind of backlash that means from the people that do think that it should be, that anchor babies should be okay.

00:44:00.000 Let's jump to the story from Fox News.

00:44:03.000 First images of ICE mass deportation efforts show arrest of MS-13 gang members and murder suspects.

00:44:10.000 Trump administration moving rapidly to fulfill mass deportation promise.

00:44:14.000 So I guess we're hearing that already over 500 violent criminals, or there have been 500 arrests, many of them violent criminals.

00:44:21.000 They say Fox News embedded exclusively with ICE in Boston.

00:44:24.000 As the agency targeted egregious criminal aliens, including MS-13 gang members and murder suspects, as part of mass deportation efforts under Trump, Fox News witnessed ICE Boston make eight arrests, including multiple MS-13, Interpol red notices, murder and rape suspects, and a volatile Haitian gang member with 18 convictions in recent years who told our cameras that he ain't going back to Haiti and F Trump Biden forever.

00:44:48.000 Did you guys see that clip?

00:44:49.000 Where he's screaming, F Trump, I ain't going back.

00:44:52.000 What a meme.

00:44:53.000 Was it Tom Hulman?

00:44:54.000 He was like, well, he's going back.

00:44:56.000 Yeah.

00:44:56.000 I mean, I was speaking to a Venezuelan the other day and they were saying to me, you know, it's actually getting a little bit more safe on the streets of Caracas because of all the criminals going to America.

00:45:06.000 I'm bummed out.

00:45:08.000 You can't see the ICE agents.

00:45:10.000 I wanted to see big smiles on their faces.

00:45:12.000 They're tossing the criminal aliens. 0.98

00:45:15.000 Could perhaps this be why Trump's approval rating is so high?

00:45:18.000 I mean, this is what people elected him for.

00:45:22.000 The Democrats on X and on Blue Sky can make a whole bunch of noise if they want.

00:45:27.000 But the average person that said, you know what, I want to vote for Trump, they voted for Trump knowing full well that he was going to round people up.

00:45:36.000 There was no ambiguity about it.

00:45:37.000 He was like, yes, we're going to round up the criminals.

00:45:40.000 I've been talking about the criminals since 2016. Everyone knew that was coming.

00:45:48.000 And they still voted for him and he won the first, you know, Republican majority since 2000 or since like 1988 or something like that.

00:45:59.000 So, you know, yeah, it was it was not a surprise.

00:46:04.000 And this is what the American people want.

00:46:06.000 And I think that this is part of the reason why he has such a high approval rating, because he's doing the things that he said.

00:46:12.000 Americans do not like the idea of criminal aliens running around in the streets, and they see videos like that dude swearing up and down and saying, I'm not going anywhere, and you know the guy is a criminal.

00:46:24.000 It's like, alright, good, we get that guy out of here.

00:46:27.000 That's what Americans want.

00:46:28.000 Americans like the idea of the Marines going to the border ready to get into gunfights with the cartels if the cartels shoot at the Marines.

00:46:37.000 That's something the American people want. 0.79

00:46:39.000 Like what the Polish guy was saying the other night, he's like, why not just kill? 1.00

00:46:42.000 Just kill. 0.98

00:46:44.000 We don't say that kind of stuff here.

00:46:46.000 Well, no, I mean, and to clarify, because we brought it up, CBP has long been authorized to use lethal force against lethal force.

00:46:54.000 I think the issue is...

00:46:56.000 Is it a cartel or whatever?

00:46:57.000 Yeah, because the cartels are armed.

00:46:59.000 There's a video of them carrying automatic rifles.

00:47:01.000 There were shootings on the border already.

00:47:03.000 CBP is authorized to return fire.

00:47:05.000 Federal law enforcement have guns.

00:47:07.000 We're not talking about random dudes here.

00:47:08.000 We're talking about federal law enforcement and National Guard that are armed.

00:47:11.000 And so Trump sent him down to the border.

00:47:14.000 I suppose the issue that Dominic was bringing up...

00:47:18.000 Is that we have sort of this non-confrontational policy where we usually just retreat and hope they go away.

00:47:25.000 And I don't know what we can expect, but at least internally, we're going to see what Trump has already done.

00:47:32.000 The DEA and the ATF have been granted deportation powers.

00:47:36.000 The Pentagon has confirmed Air Force aircraft will be used to deport.

00:47:42.000 Illegal immigrants, and they're going to be staffed internally with federal law enforcement, not military. 0.83

00:47:48.000 So the goal here from Trump and the administration is not to engage the military directly, but to use existing federal law enforcement with the resources of the military.

00:47:58.000 And the Marines are there, fully armed.

00:48:02.000 As if they were going on any other operation, as if they were being deployed anywhere else with the authority.

00:48:09.000 If you take fire, you are to return fire.

00:48:12.000 That is a good thing.

00:48:13.000 But they never do.

00:48:13.000 Well, now they...

00:48:14.000 I don't know that they will.

00:48:16.000 In the past, they haven't.

00:48:17.000 But, I mean, look, if you're sending...

00:48:20.000 I don't know what the Marines are like, you know, these particular guys.

00:48:23.000 The issue right here specifically is that...

00:48:25.000 Operating on the border, I believe, still falls under posse comitatus.

00:48:29.000 And so there have been, I guess, legal scholars stating that we expect not to see the U.S. military that's been deployed, which is, I believe, 1,000 Army and 500 Marines.

00:48:40.000 They will not be engaging in ground operations.

00:48:42.000 They're going to be providing intelligence, air support, but they won't be engaging directly.

00:48:45.000 Federal law enforcement have been granted authority to do so, specifically because posse comitatus, the military can't engage in enforcing domestic law.

00:48:54.000 I just don't understand.

00:48:55.000 If you've got criminal gangs literally invading your country, right?

00:49:00.000 And you've got them building tunnels and bringing in all sorts of drugs that could kill the population multiple times over.

00:49:05.000 It does kill the population.

00:49:06.000 It does, yeah.

00:49:07.000 I mean, you lost like 80,000 people in a year.

00:49:09.000 That's unbelievable numbers to lose over these drugs being smuggled into the country.

00:49:14.000 At what point...

00:49:15.000 Does it actually become a situation where you say, okay, this is an actual invasion?

00:49:19.000 And I guess Trump is doing that now, which is good.

00:49:22.000 He declared an invasive force on the southern border.

00:49:23.000 It just blows my mind that that hasn't happened yet.

00:49:25.000 You know, it's crazy because times are different.

00:49:29.000 And we see these migrant caravans where you've got 2,000 people and they're carrying flags of their nation as they march towards the border.

00:49:39.000 What do you think would happen?

00:49:41.000 If you went back to, like, I don't know, the 1200s or whatever.

00:49:45.000 Let's do this.

00:49:46.000 Let's go back to the Roman Empire.

00:49:48.000 And a horde of 5,000 people flying the banner of another nation tried to march towards Rome.

00:49:54.000 It would not go well for them.

00:49:56.000 It would be war instantly.

00:49:59.000 Now, because I believe largely of social media, there's no tolerance for any kind of violent action.

00:50:05.000 And so when these migrant caravans are marching... 0.99

00:50:08.000 And they're flying flags of their home countries.

00:50:11.000 The United States just says, welcome to America, I guess.

00:50:14.000 Looks like the Olympic opening ceremony.

00:50:16.000 But Donald Trump says you can stay in Mexico.

00:50:18.000 I do not believe, I believe everyone agrees, and any reasonable person.

00:50:22.000 You're not an asylum seeker if you travel through 12 countries to get to the United States.

00:50:27.000 If you are from Mexico and you come to the southern border to escape gangs, okay, that makes sense.

00:50:33.000 You can go south or you can go north.

00:50:34.000 Alright, you came to America. 0.87

00:50:35.000 Okay, I guess.

00:50:36.000 Let's figure it out.

00:50:37.000 If you're from Canada, I can understand why you fled to America. 0.98

00:50:39.000 Shout out to Viva Frye. 1.00

00:50:40.000 We get it.

00:50:41.000 But for people who came from Africa, it's like, bro, you could have stopped in Brazil.

00:50:45.000 Brazil's awesome.

00:50:46.000 So they fly to Brazil and then make their way up to the United States.

00:50:49.000 Those aren't asylum seekers.

00:50:50.000 So these people are not going to be allowed in.

00:50:53.000 There's not going to be violence toward them.

00:50:55.000 They're going to be physically removed.

00:50:56.000 If they enter illegally, they're going to be deported. 0.89

00:50:59.000 And it's really fascinating to me that...

00:51:01.000 Democrats are acting like this is the apocalypse when we're literally saying, hey man, we didn't invite you over, but we'll give you a ride home.

00:51:10.000 And they're like, oh, it's torture.

00:51:11.000 It's so evil.

00:51:12.000 And it's like, actually, it's kind of nice.

00:51:14.000 One of your homies is up to your house late at night and you're like, okay, I guess you can hang out for a little bit.

00:51:19.000 And then you look at your watch and you're like, bro, it's time for you to go home, man.

00:51:21.000 I'm going to give you a ride.

00:51:22.000 And they're like, oh, you're kicking me out.

00:51:24.000 Dude's like, yeah, I'm kicking you out and I'm giving you a ride home.

00:51:25.000 It's the nicest thing I can do for you.

00:51:28.000 As far as Mexico go, and a lot of these South American countries go, I think the bigger issue at play is that these are narco states, and there is not enough political will, either domestic or there, to deal with it in a serious way because of the violence that it would bring. 0.99

00:51:42.000 So neither here or in Mexico do they actually want to deal with the cartel in a serious manner, or they'll murder you.

00:51:47.000 You think they're in bed with the cartels?

00:51:49.000 Oh, definitely. 0.99

00:51:49.000 And if they're not, then they murder you. 0.99

00:51:51.000 They murder the politicians that aren't in bed with the cartel.

00:51:53.000 Same with the news journalists there.

00:51:55.000 Any legitimate criticisms of the cartel? 0.64

00:51:57.000 They'll chase you down and murder you.

00:51:59.000 And if we deal with them in a serious manner on our side of the border, then we'll see violence erupt.

00:52:04.000 And I don't think the Americans have the stomach for this.

00:52:07.000 And in Mexico, they'd rather cooperate with these cartels than...

00:52:11.000 I'm saying if the will was there from Trump, for example, and if he said to Mexico, hey, listen, we're going to do X, Y, and Z. You guys have a military.

00:52:18.000 You can mobilize your military.

00:52:19.000 You're stronger than these cartels.

00:52:20.000 They're not.

00:52:21.000 They're not.

00:52:22.000 All of the institutions in Mexico are deeply embedded by the cartel, and they will not go after...

00:52:26.000 How do you think El Salvador did it?

00:52:29.000 They say in El Salvador that the guy there is...

00:52:31.000 Trump says Bukele is working with the cartel.

00:52:34.000 He's working with the cartel.

00:52:35.000 That's what Trump has said before.

00:52:36.000 I don't think he said that.

00:52:37.000 I think Trump's accusation that he was sending criminals to America.

00:52:40.000 He was releasing criminals who were coming to America.

00:52:42.000 Okay, so that's how he was dealing with them.

00:52:44.000 It seems like a different deal if he's sending them to America. 0.57

00:52:46.000 But I mean, there's no doubt that there's big facilities with lots of high-ranking gang members in El Salvador, and they're locking them up there, and they're punishing them severely.

00:52:54.000 And that was the murder capital.

00:52:56.000 Of the Western Hemisphere, and now it's not.

00:52:58.000 Sure.

00:52:58.000 Well, it seemed like Mexico's going more left-leaning now with their new female president that they elected.

00:53:03.000 That's why you can't have a female president. 1.00

00:53:04.000 There isn't the political will in Mexico to deal with the cartel issue at all.

00:53:07.000 So you're of the opinion that...

00:53:09.000 The United States wouldn't be able to do anything because the Mexican government wouldn't work with the U.S.? It's hard to make deals with the Mexicans because the Mexicans are run by the cartels. 0.94

00:53:22.000 And if we do deal with the issue head-on, then we will face a lot of violence.

00:53:27.000 Do you think that the U.S. wouldn't have the stomach to actually deal with the cartels because the cartels would have a lot of violence in the U.S.? Yeah, unfortunately.

00:53:38.000 Unless the cartel played nice, and then you'd have to make deals with the cartel.

00:53:41.000 But they are so deeply ingrained in Mexico and different South American countries that they aren't going anywhere.

00:53:45.000 The state of Mexico is run by the cartels and gang members.

00:53:49.000 I mean, all I hear you saying is that we need to do to Mexico...

00:53:52.000 Liberate Mexico?

00:53:53.000 Yeah, we'll do to Mexico what we did in the Middle East. 0.79

00:53:56.000 Because the United States military has shown that they are capable of dismantling terrorist organizations, and that's exactly what the cartels are.

00:54:04.000 So, if the United States has to go in and say, look...

00:54:07.000 You're either going to handle the cartels or...

00:54:11.000 We're going to take you out of power. 0.98

00:54:12.000 I think that's something that's actually on the table.

00:54:15.000 It's a lot of American blood to liberate Mexico, and if we do do it, then I don't think we should have a beef.

00:54:19.000 And also, it's another situation where you're on away turf as well, big time.

00:54:22.000 When you what?

00:54:22.000 You're on away turf, like in Vietnam as well.

00:54:25.000 We're at home on the border here.

00:54:26.000 No, it's right on the border.

00:54:27.000 It's not the same kind of away turf.

00:54:28.000 Depends how deep you wanted to go into America.

00:54:30.000 Because these drug cartels all link through South America.

00:54:33.000 They go up through Chile, and then up through Colombia, and Peru, and Ecuador, and all the way up into Mexico as well.

00:54:40.000 I have a question.

00:54:42.000 I have this tweet I want to pull up from End Wokeness.

00:54:44.000 And they say, Rep AOC is now telling illegals to alert their networks when ICE is coming.

00:54:49.000 In English, it says, this is presumably from AOC's Instagram.

00:54:54.000 If you see ICE in public, confirm they're actually ICE and not a different agency.

00:54:57.000 They may have ICE, ERO, or HSI on their vests.

00:55:01.000 It says you have a right to record.

00:55:03.000 If you feel safe, take photos or videos.

00:55:05.000 Write on the time, date, and exact location of the encounter.

00:55:07.000 Time stamp when they show up and leave.

00:55:09.000 Once verified, share the information with your networks.

00:55:13.000 Let's say there was like a roaming band of wanted bank robbers.

00:55:18.000 They had robbed a bank, and their faces were up all over the city and on the TVs.

00:55:24.000 And then you came out and said to all of your friends, If you see law enforcement alert the criminals so that they can escape and protect themselves, if you were a part of these criminal gangs and someone came out and offered up advice for how you could subvert law enforcement to escape and not get arrested,

00:55:49.000 I'm wondering if there's any codified laws in the books about aiding and abetting wanted criminals and providing them with information so they can escape law enforcement?

00:55:58.000 If she's an accessory to any of the crimes that she commits, maybe we could subpoena any of these networks that she's in.

00:56:03.000 She should be censored just for posting that. 0.96

00:56:07.000 If I'm a Venezuelan gang member, this sounds like the type of networking groups I want to be in, and I guess I'm thankful that Tom Homan takes ICE Law and his job there at ICE seriously to follow through with what...

00:56:19.000 Even if there was one legit example of what she was saying, then she could probably get away with posting something like that and she couldn't actually be linked to it.

00:56:28.000 But people who were actually aiding and abetting now can say, oh, well, I saw AOC's post.

00:56:33.000 I am of the zero tolerance mind.

00:56:37.000 This is not...

00:56:38.000 AOC is not a lawyer.

00:56:39.000 She's not providing legal advice. 1.00

00:56:40.000 Granted, she's not directing a specific individual, which is probably where the protection will come in for First Amendment.

00:56:47.000 I've been asking this question.

00:56:49.000 At a certain point, there's going to be obstruction.

00:56:51.000 There's going to be accessory, conspiracy behind some of these actions.

00:56:56.000 If a lawyer is giving legal advice, I get it.

00:56:59.000 People are all entitled to legal advice.

00:57:02.000 But if activists are going to wanted criminals who are And I'm not talking about the legal asylees. 0.98

00:57:32.000 We're talking about MS-13.

00:57:34.000 That this information is being used to protect criminal gangs and cartel members.

00:57:38.000 Yeah.

00:57:39.000 I think there should be ramifications.

00:57:42.000 There should be consequences.

00:57:43.000 She should be censured. 0.99

00:57:44.000 She should lose all of her committee appointments and stuff like that. 0.98

00:57:49.000 But the Democrats don't actually take any of this stuff seriously because, you know, they're the party of law and order.

00:57:57.000 They get upset because the January 6th rioters were released.

00:58:01.000 Some of them did some bad stuff.

00:58:03.000 But this is perfectly fine.

00:58:05.000 Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and there was a Republican saying this about the J6s.

00:58:09.000 Oh yeah, it's insane.

00:58:10.000 This is exactly the same type of behavior that the Vice President engaged in when there were the riots, the George Floyd riots.

00:58:18.000 Kamala Harris sent up a bail fund.

00:58:20.000 Helping to bail them out.

00:58:22.000 So this is unquestionably...

00:58:23.000 She should be brought up on charges for this, in my opinion.

00:58:26.000 Aiding and abetting.

00:58:28.000 Obviously, that won't happen.

00:58:30.000 But the Democrats are in no position to criticize the release of the J6 prisoners or anything, because this is the exact kind of thing they do. 0.99

00:58:37.000 These people are here illegally. 0.99

00:58:38.000 They've broken the law.

00:58:40.000 And ICE is trying to round them up when she says that people should...

00:58:44.000 Try to interfere.

00:58:46.000 That's trying to interfere with a duly designated...

00:58:51.000 The whole fake ice thing is like a sleight of hand that she's played there in order to tell people, hey, listen, if ice are trying to round you up or people that you know up, get out of there.

00:59:01.000 You can say, oh, there's fake ice people.

00:59:03.000 It's a sleight of hand.

00:59:04.000 She should go to jail. 0.84

00:59:05.000 I feel like this is gearing up for what will be the first thing that the left pushes back against Trump hard on in its first hundred days.

00:59:12.000 It's going to be a lot of this immigration stuff and deportation stuff.

00:59:15.000 We're going to see the recycled old lines of keeping kids in cages.

00:59:18.000 We're going to see AOC do another photo op where she's dressed in all white, crying on a cage. 0.99

00:59:23.000 So different things like this is what we should be expecting to see in the next month or two.

00:59:28.000 And this is her just going through the motions.

00:59:30.000 And remember, this is something the American people want.

00:59:33.000 This is a popular...

00:59:35.000 Popular, popular thing that's happening.

00:59:38.000 Like, the American people want to see people that are here illegally rounded up and sent home. 0.96

00:59:43.000 And she is doing this because it's not about her base or anything, or the people that voted for her.

00:59:52.000 It's about the ideological...

00:59:56.000 They want to see the Lakin-Riley Act enforced, which I believe we will see be the first law that Trump signs.

01:00:05.000 Absolutely amazing that Ro Khanna was like, he voted against it because it allows the deportation of an individual simply for being arrested.

01:00:13.000 And it's like, but when they're here illegally? 0.95

01:00:16.000 Yes.

01:00:17.000 It's like, okay, why are we going to give them a trial and then deport them after the fact?

01:00:23.000 Like, an illegal immigrant comes in, we catch them committing a burglary, they get arrested, and they go, no, no, no, no, no! 1.00

01:00:29.000 We're going to deport them anyway, but spend the money on a trial first, and then we'll deport them afterwards, regardless of the outcome.

01:00:35.000 That makes no sense.

01:00:36.000 And that's the thing with the murderer of Lakin Riley.

01:00:39.000 This was an illegal immigrant who was arrested multiple times in multiple different states, and then ended up doing heinous crimes, and then obviously... 1.00

01:00:47.000 It's like when the left in America say, no...

01:00:50.000 Every person is illegal, except for every single person who crossed the border illegally.

01:00:54.000 And I just put in the Slack, Tim, someone posted, Brian Crandall from NBC10 on X, FBI Homeland Security agent's raid office of well-known Providence immigration lawyer.

01:01:05.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:01:06.000 Well, there we go.

01:01:07.000 This is it.

01:01:08.000 Take a look at this video.

01:01:12.000 HSI, it says.

01:01:13.000 Yeah.

01:01:15.000 So...

01:01:15.000 Is that like Homeland Security Investigations or something?

01:01:18.000 I'm not sure, but...

01:01:19.000 Yeah, I mean...

01:01:20.000 It...

01:01:21.000 This is the kind of stuff that we need to...

01:01:23.000 Winchester Investment Securities?

01:01:25.000 What does it say here?

01:01:26.000 It says, um...

01:01:27.000 Molina Flynn Law Office.

01:01:29.000 Joseph Molina.

01:01:31.000 Looks like they might be serving some papers or something.

01:01:34.000 Do they have a piece of paper in his hand?

01:01:35.000 Look at that!

01:01:36.000 Is that a notebook?

01:01:37.000 What does he got right there?

01:01:39.000 You see in his hand?

01:01:40.000 Yeah.

01:01:41.000 I wonder if they've got some kind of warrant.

01:01:43.000 Don't know.

01:01:44.000 But yeah, I mean, this is what should happen to all lawyers that in any way get in the way of a duly deputized federal employee or whatever rounding people up.

01:02:00.000 This is exactly what should happen.

01:02:02.000 There should be repercussions for AOC. Anyone in Congress...

01:02:07.000 That is helping to prevent people from being deported.

01:02:13.000 There should be actual legal consequences.

01:02:18.000 Half of the restaurants in Providence will be closing in the next few days.

01:02:21.000 75% of the cooking and cleaning staff are illegals.

01:02:24.000 NYC's restaurants will be closing as well.

01:02:26.000 It's fine.

01:02:26.000 It's cold out.

01:02:27.000 It's fine.

01:02:27.000 I say, okay.

01:02:29.000 I don't understand this argument they're making where it's like a bunch of criminals have broken the law, but they cook and clean.

01:02:36.000 We need more oxtail.

01:02:38.000 It's insane.

01:02:39.000 Do you think they allow contracting for illegal immigrants in New York City in these restaurants?

01:02:43.000 That's been the worst thing about all of this is the special protections for illegal immigrants and the penalties on legal citizens and immigrants.

01:02:52.000 The fact that in New York they were putting up illegal immigrants in hotels with some reportedly had PlayStations and Gen Z is like, I wish I can afford to get a bachelor apartment. 1.00

01:03:03.000 You know what a bachelor apartment is?

01:03:06.000 No bathroom.

01:03:07.000 And this is what Gen Z is trying to rent.

01:03:10.000 Meanwhile, illegal immigrants are getting luxury hotels converted for them. 0.99

01:03:13.000 It's funny how it's the exact same playbook in the United States as it is in the UK as well.

01:03:19.000 Have you seen what they do for the immigrants in the UK? They'll give them like a loaded visa card. 0.92

01:03:23.000 They'll give them dental work, luxury hotels.

01:03:26.000 And then if anyone ever complains about the immigrants, it's like, oh, well, they make curry.

01:03:31.000 Well, your national dish over there is, what, chicken tikka masala?

01:03:35.000 Yeah, well, you don't like butter chicken.

01:03:37.000 Butter chicken.

01:03:37.000 Butter chicken isn't even indie.

01:03:38.000 You go to India, you can't get a butter chicken.

01:03:39.000 That's right.

01:03:40.000 It's British.

01:03:41.000 Yeah.

01:03:41.000 It's a uniquely British dish.

01:03:43.000 I mean, like, try eating Chinese food in China.

01:03:46.000 Yeah. 0.88

01:03:47.000 It's disgusting over there.

01:03:49.000 It's bad.

01:03:49.000 It's amazing.

01:03:50.000 Proper Chinese food here.

01:03:52.000 I went to Taiwan last year, and it was the grossest market I've ever been. 1.00

01:03:56.000 No offense, Chinese and Taiwanese people, but the grossest market I've ever seen in my life. 1.00

01:04:00.000 Did you get the gutter oil?

01:04:02.000 I didn't get anything in the end.

01:04:03.000 I just walked through it, and I was like...

01:04:04.000 You know about the gutter oil, right?

01:04:06.000 Oh, I've seen that, how they reuse it.

01:04:08.000 They strain oil out of the sewers to reuse?

01:04:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:10.000 Ugh, it's just gross.

01:04:11.000 You can kind of smell it when you go there.

01:04:14.000 That's why they say don't eat street food in China.

01:04:16.000 That's why the bat soup at the beginning of COVID was so believable. 1.00

01:04:21.000 People are just like, yeah, it was a bat soup, and they would do that. 1.00

01:04:24.000 People need to understand the size of cities in China as well.

01:04:28.000 I mean, a billion-plus people.

01:04:29.000 They've got New Yorks all over the place.

01:04:32.000 So these are big, big cities.

01:04:36.000 Excuse me.

01:04:38.000 I'm curious.

01:04:42.000 My concern with watching lawyers get served and stuff is, at what point does it go too far?

01:04:48.000 I guess we need to really know exactly what's going on here beyond the caption reading FBI. Well, I mean, just like, hypothetically, like...

01:04:55.000 Of an immigration lawyer.

01:04:56.000 Who knows?

01:04:56.000 Maybe he was...

01:04:57.000 I don't want to see lawyers arrested, but there's a reality of you can't hide behind being a lawyer to commit crimes.

01:05:04.000 Right?

01:05:05.000 You know, like, better call Saul.

01:05:06.000 It's like this dude was aiding and abetting a meth dealer.

01:05:09.000 That was the point of, like, in Breaking Bad.

01:05:10.000 We're not going to be like, but he's a lawyer, so we can't do anything about it.

01:05:13.000 It's like, nah, he was a criminal.

01:05:14.000 Who is aiding and abetting serious crimes.

01:05:16.000 Do they sign some sort of like a Hippocratic Oath when they get into lawyers?

01:05:20.000 Lawyers?

01:05:21.000 As well?

01:05:22.000 Swearing to do no harm?

01:05:23.000 I don't believe so.

01:05:24.000 What do the doctors sign?

01:05:26.000 Yeah, lawyers do have one. 0.88

01:05:27.000 It's that they promise to be liars.

01:05:30.000 They promise to not go after one another.

01:05:33.000 That's the quote among lawyers.

01:05:34.000 What's the one that the doctors sign?

01:05:36.000 Hippocratic Oath.

01:05:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:37.000 Lawyers don't have nothing like that.

01:05:39.000 I don't think so.

01:05:40.000 I mean, well, they should.

01:05:41.000 They might have something.

01:05:42.000 I don't know.

01:05:42.000 Cops swear to uphold the Constitution.

01:05:44.000 Yeah, it's so funny in America.

01:05:46.000 I don't know if you guys realize how...

01:05:48.000 You probably do because you've traveled a fair bit.

01:05:50.000 But when you come to America and you switch on the TV, it's like, did somebody brush past you in the street?

01:05:56.000 Do you want to sue them?

01:05:58.000 It's like...

01:05:59.000 Everywhere.

01:06:00.000 Have you driven through any major city recently?

01:06:02.000 Yeah.

01:06:02.000 Every billboard is personal injury lawyers.

01:06:04.000 Yeah.

01:06:05.000 And it's just like, let's sue!

01:06:06.000 We're a very litigious country.

01:06:08.000 We love the law here.

01:06:09.000 Do you want to screw somebody over?

01:06:12.000 Cole Bryan, John?

01:06:13.000 But then you see those videos where there's one viral one that's going around where...

01:06:17.000 There's a car driving on the highway with a dashcam.

01:06:19.000 A car pulls in front and then slams the brakes on.

01:06:21.000 And the car stops.

01:06:22.000 And then the car in front goes forward and then reverses and slams right into it.

01:06:26.000 And then the people come out going like, oh, it hurts.

01:06:29.000 I guess they got arrested for it.

01:06:30.000 It was a big story.

01:06:31.000 Dude, have you seen the one in China where there's a law in China where if you hit somebody with your car and then they're injured, then they can sue you.

01:06:38.000 But if you kill them, then they can't do anything.

01:06:40.000 That's right. 0.99

01:06:41.000 There's all these videos of people just like reversing over them.

01:06:44.000 Finish them off.

01:06:44.000 Yeah.

01:06:45.000 Yeah, because it's...

01:06:46.000 You'll be responsible for the cost for the rest of their life.

01:06:49.000 So they'd rather get a murder charge, which could be like a few years, than get life. 0.98

01:06:57.000 That's ridiculous.

01:06:58.000 Reverse incentive. 0.91

01:07:00.000 That's the thing about law, man.

01:07:01.000 People need to understand how it's applied.

01:07:03.000 There's that famous story of, I forgot which country it was.

01:07:06.000 It might have been India.

01:07:07.000 Where they had a snake problem.

01:07:09.000 And so the local government, I think it was the British government in India, and they were like, bring us the heads of the snakes and we'll pay you for them. 0.84

01:07:14.000 So local Indians started breeding the snakes because they were worth money to the government now and it made the problem worse. 0.96

01:07:19.000 It's like Mao with the sparrows in China as well, trying to get rid of the sparrows and then...

01:07:23.000 Y'all starve to death. 0.84

01:07:24.000 That's right. 0.96

01:07:24.000 Let's jump to this story from the Post. 0.96

01:07:26.000 Millennial advisor for Biden White House admits deep state is real.

01:07:30.000 Says bureaucracy could crush Trump's pick for HHS. In this latest release from James O'Keefe, this guy basically says the deep state is real.

01:07:38.000 They're going to obstruct RFK Jr. They're going to use phony commissions to investigate things and then never actually do what they're told to do.

01:07:47.000 This is what the deep state is.

01:07:49.000 It is holdovers.

01:07:51.000 It is politically minded bureaucrats.

01:07:54.000 Who are doing everything they can to obstruct.

01:07:58.000 We recently saw the ATF. They changed the title of their chief diversity officer to senior executive.

01:08:03.000 And they're doing that to hide these people in the government.

01:08:06.000 There's only one solution.

01:08:08.000 Trump's got to fire everybody.

01:08:10.000 Everybody GS-13 and higher, at least.

01:08:13.000 Yeah.

01:08:13.000 But what do you do?

01:08:14.000 I mean, how do you prove the people you hired to replace them aren't going to be secretly woke and trying to subvert the country?

01:08:19.000 I don't know.

01:08:20.000 I mean, I don't have an answer.

01:08:23.000 But the evidence is that the people that are ideologically possessed in the government are not going to be easy to get out.

01:08:34.000 Like, they're going to lie.

01:08:36.000 They're going to do whatever they can to hide their actual intentions.

01:08:42.000 So do we think that Trump is going to succeed in his efforts despite the fact that we see these videos where the deep state's like, yeah, we exist, we're going to keep doing it?

01:08:49.000 Well, like we were talking the other night with Angela, like...

01:08:52.000 It's one thing to get a – it would be one thing to have a libertarian or someone that's really good as the head of a cabinet-level position, a secretary, right?

01:09:01.000 But it's probably better to have seven or ten people in the upper management that are of the same mind as you so they can monitor the other people around, turn them in if they're breaking the rules.

01:09:13.000 Because if you're just ahead, you're delegating authority, but you have – just like with Trump's – First term, he had problems with the people that he hired.

01:09:23.000 If you get people that are in the bureaucracy and you get good people that are not head of the department or the secretary level, but they're actually the administrative level, those people can do more to make good policy and make sure that the policy that the president wants is actually being implemented.

01:09:44.000 I think this guy's getting a little bit ahead of himself because I don't even foresee RFK Jr. getting confirmed as HHS secretary.

01:09:51.000 Yeah, he's way too radical on abortion for, I think, like, we only have 53 Republican senators right now.

01:09:58.000 I think they'll be able to pick off a few.

01:10:00.000 Mike Pence is trying to knock off a few.

01:10:02.000 RFK Jr. has said he supports abortion.

01:10:05.000 Thune has said that he's got the votes.

01:10:07.000 Even if it's full term.

01:10:08.000 Thune has said that he's got the votes.

01:10:10.000 For RFK Jr.?

01:10:11.000 Thun has said that he's got the votes for everybody.

01:10:13.000 Okay, well, I guess we'll see about...

01:10:15.000 I think him and Tulsi Gabbard are a little bit on thin ice.

01:10:18.000 Hexeth lost Murkowski, but you need to lose three to be out of the running because they have a three-seat majority.

01:10:23.000 How do these people keep getting elected?

01:10:25.000 Well, Murkowski...

01:10:26.000 I mean, Murkowski's not a...

01:10:28.000 Susan Collins is in a purple area.

01:10:30.000 Same thing with Collins.

01:10:31.000 These are people on the edges.

01:10:32.000 But I was surprised RFK even got the nomination following what he said in the past about abortion and stuff like that.

01:10:40.000 So we'll see how this goes.

01:10:42.000 But I think this guy's getting a little bit ahead of him.

01:10:44.000 Trump was pretty clear when he said that we're going to leave RFK to do what he does best to sort of disentangle the big entrenched farmer cartel.

01:10:53.000 We're going to leave the environmental stuff away and everything.

01:10:56.000 Will he have much of a say with abortion?

01:10:59.000 He will have some say because he'll still be HHS secretary, but the bigger hurdle is getting past the pro-life Republicans in the Senate.

01:11:06.000 But Trump's left it to the states, right?

01:11:08.000 Meaning that federally he won't have much to do with abortion, but it will be up to the states.

01:11:12.000 I still think HHS will be involved in some of the legal processes, but even before he gets that far, it'll be the pro-life Republicans in the Senate who I think would block the confirmation.

01:11:23.000 But will it affect the abortion laws, though?

01:11:27.000 I think it'll have some effect over abortion law at HHS. I mean, it is the Department of Health and Human Services.

01:11:34.000 If Trump is actually leaving it to the state, then it...

01:11:35.000 I think that he would have foreseen that because he wouldn't want a radical like RFK on abortion having anything to do with the abortion.

01:11:42.000 Well, it was quid pro quo.

01:11:43.000 It was, if you drop out and help me, I'll give you a position on the cabinet.

01:11:46.000 So, politics aside...

01:11:48.000 And remember when RFK Jr. said that he reached out to Kamala as well and they snubbed him?

01:11:52.000 Didn't even answer him, yeah.

01:11:53.000 I think the people that are...

01:11:54.000 If there is anyone that is likely to not get confirmed, I don't think HHS is the one.

01:12:01.000 Because, honestly, I think that it would be like...

01:12:04.000 Kash Patel at the FBI, Hegseth.

01:12:07.000 I think it would be people that are part of the intelligence apparatus dealing with foreign policy as opposed to the people that like, you know, Tulsi Gabbard.

01:12:16.000 I think it's funny because I kind of think the opposite.

01:12:18.000 I think it's Republicans who hold grudges against people who used to be Democrats that might stop them from getting over the line.

01:12:23.000 So like, for example, some people in the national security apparatus don't like how Tulsi Gabbard cozied up and met with Bashar al-Assad in Syria when he was still in power there.

01:12:32.000 This abortion issue is a huge issue for Republicans across the board in the South, especially the abortion issue.

01:12:39.000 Those people are the ones I don't really foresee getting.

01:12:42.000 We'll see.

01:12:43.000 Yeah, I don't think that the I think the Republicans understand that Trump has basically a mandate.

01:12:50.000 At least on the Republican side, they're of the opinion that Trump has a mandate and they feel like they need to get on board.

01:12:56.000 The only people that I think don't hold that opinion are people like Murkowski and Collins that don't have to worry about Pleasing their Republican base.

01:13:07.000 I think that they have to...

01:13:08.000 It's ironic because Thune is actually going to be appearing tomorrow at the March for Life in D.C. while he's allegedly going to try to whip up votes for an HHS secretary who will likely be the most pro-life one, at least that are Republicans ever appointed in office.

01:13:23.000 Yeah, I think on a federal level, the abortion question is...

01:13:29.000 Has been largely answered.

01:13:33.000 And it's back down to the states.

01:13:34.000 And I think that Republicans in the Senate and stuff are like...

01:13:38.000 Thank goodness I don't have to worry about that too much.

01:13:40.000 Because they can just say, well, you know, it's a state-level thing, so you have to worry about your state legislature.

01:13:45.000 That's one that you guys will never resolve with civil discussion and discourse.

01:13:50.000 Oh, no.

01:13:51.000 People love fundraising money on both sides.

01:13:53.000 That's part of why I don't think it'll ever get resolved.

01:13:55.000 Also, it's because the pro-abortionists are possessed by demon spirits.

01:14:00.000 Democrats raise so much money based off this issue alone.

01:14:04.000 It's one of their biggest platform policies that they even have.

01:14:08.000 As the Democrats run on in the past election, women's rights was the top issue that most of the women cared about, and their base are becoming more and more feminine. 0.94

01:14:15.000 It's 50-year-old women that have gone through menopause that can't have kids that are making us think about it. 0.99

01:14:20.000 A lot of young women are Democrats because of abortion.

01:14:23.000 I think.

01:14:24.000 It is the case, unfortunately, because what do you get sold these days if you're a young woman?

01:14:29.000 You get sold a bill of don't need no man, be independent, don't have kids, it's bad for the environment, and you want to have a job with a fluffy little notepad.

01:14:37.000 The solution to the abortion question isn't convincing young women that they shouldn't get abortions. 0.99

01:14:45.000 It's convincing young men and women that they need to get married and have kids. 0.80

01:14:49.000 I think the solution to the abortion problem... 0.87

01:14:51.000 Is legislation and only legislation?

01:14:54.000 I don't agree.

01:14:55.000 I think when your country requires things to be written down, your culture is already collapsing.

01:15:00.000 And we've got an OnlyFans problem, and it's not just a problem of women doing it, it's of men paying for it. 1.00

01:15:09.000 I'd be willing to bet there are a ton of guys out there who will go on X and post things about virtue, and they're buying OnlyFans.

01:15:17.000 But how would you solve that, though?

01:15:18.000 Would you outlaw it?

01:15:19.000 Would you outlaw OnlyFans?

01:15:20.000 Or would you disincentivize it?

01:15:22.000 You need cultural reformation.

01:15:23.000 And that can only be done through the will of the people and the decisions of those to break their addictions.

01:15:28.000 So, like I said, I bet there's a lot of people who go on X every day and say things like, you know, women should be mothers.

01:15:35.000 We don't need women in the military. 1.00

01:15:36.000 And they're buying OnlyFans.

01:15:38.000 They're paying women for this. 1.00

01:15:39.000 They're enabling and creating the culture by which women have quit their jobs to go do porn instead. 0.97

01:15:44.000 I don't think it's an issue for the state to resolve.

01:15:45.000 It's an issue for culture.

01:15:47.000 Even if they are doing that, and these men, they have this double standard that they hold, what actually is the solution?

01:15:54.000 Do you think that it's cultural incentivization, or do you think that it's actually legislating these things?

01:15:58.000 No, like I already said, you can't legislate this stuff away.

01:16:01.000 You can't ban porn?

01:16:02.000 Absolutely.

01:16:03.000 I mean, you can try to, but look what happens with marijuana.

01:16:06.000 Marijuana was banned.

01:16:07.000 Everyone still does it.

01:16:08.000 Alcohol was banned.

01:16:09.000 Everyone still got it.

01:16:11.000 The issue is always going to be, will your culture tolerate these things?

01:16:16.000 So this idea that we're simply going to say, arrest people who do it, won't change the fact that people will just end up doing it illegally.

01:16:21.000 You need cultural reformation, and that is...

01:16:24.000 Ridiculously hard to accomplish, but it's the only way to put a stop to these things is if on shows like this and on other platforms people are shaming.

01:16:33.000 We need to bring back shame to as hard degree as possible.

01:16:36.000 If a dude gets caught buying OnlyFans, he is mocked relentlessly.

01:16:41.000 In public.

01:16:42.000 I agree.

01:16:42.000 Shame.

01:16:43.000 Well, it needs to be such that we raise people who wouldn't want to access and pay for it.

01:16:47.000 But just from the legal side, I don't even really know in a pragmatic way how we would actually do it.

01:16:51.000 It's like, oh, if you take a naked picture of yourself, we're going to send police to your house to arrest you.

01:16:55.000 But it's not even if you take a naked picture of yourself.

01:16:57.000 It's if you distribute.

01:16:58.000 That naked picture on the internet.

01:17:00.000 Then we're going to send police to arrest you.

01:17:01.000 We legislate against drink driving, for example.

01:17:04.000 And people...

01:17:04.000 And right, and the issue...

01:17:05.000 But wait, these aren't the same.

01:17:06.000 Drunk driving and...

01:17:07.000 Yeah, I know, but it's an aspect of drinking.

01:17:09.000 So we're going to talk about drinking and marijuana and drugs and everything.

01:17:12.000 You are not going to ban the dark web.

01:17:13.000 You are not going to demand the state through force and a practice that people can easily access through VPNs.

01:17:20.000 It's going to keep happening.

01:17:21.000 We need shame.

01:17:23.000 Cultural reformation.

01:17:24.000 I agree with that.

01:17:24.000 How much cleavage are you allowed to show before we're sending the cops after you?

01:17:27.000 I think there's a pretty easy line there, which is just nip.

01:17:32.000 Is areola cool?

01:17:33.000 Is areola cool?

01:17:34.000 What about men?

01:17:35.000 Can men slip the nip? 0.99

01:17:36.000 Yeah, of course.

01:17:37.000 It's different.

01:17:37.000 Well, now you've got a violation of the Civil Rights Act.

01:17:39.000 Look, I'm not saying that nip slips need to be sort of banned, but if you're having sexual intercourse on camera, and if it's being distributed and distributed to children, should you be liable for that? 0.90

01:17:47.000 By all means, you can legislate to ban porn, and it will curtail a decent amount of it, but it's not going to change the culture.

01:17:58.000 So, by all means, I'm not saying it's ineffective completely.

01:18:01.000 People will still absolutely do these things.

01:18:03.000 They'll just do it illegally. 0.72

01:18:05.000 But you need a cultural reformation that is accomplished through people willing to shame others.

01:18:12.000 Enough of this, like, live and let live, failed liberalism.

01:18:17.000 You know, it's like, hey, look, I don't care what you do.

01:18:19.000 No, I care what you do.

01:18:21.000 We all wanted to live in this world.

01:18:23.000 I did when I grew up where it's like, hey man, you do your thing and I'm going to mind my own business.

01:18:26.000 And then they started giving porn to kids.

01:18:27.000 And it's like, can I please ask you to stop?

01:18:29.000 And they said, no.

01:18:30.000 And then when we were like, okay, then we're going to ban these books.

01:18:33.000 They threw bricks through windows.

01:18:34.000 So it's like, okay, we really can't tolerate this stuff.

01:18:37.000 There's got to be an accepted moral framework by which we just say, yeah, we don't tolerate this.

01:18:42.000 And how do you deal with it?

01:18:44.000 You shame people.

01:18:45.000 You don't need violence.

01:18:46.000 You don't need...

01:18:46.000 Brute force.

01:18:47.000 You can try to start this process.

01:18:50.000 Maybe it would be effective to a certain degree to ban these things because it would result in a reduction across the board, and then you can shame those who would continue to do so.

01:18:58.000 But really the most powerful motivator is when young people are ridiculed for doing bad things.

01:19:04.000 So you look at the effect that Instagram and TikTok has on teenagers, and if they don't get enough likes, they get depressed.

01:19:13.000 And they try to follow the trends because they're trying to fit in. 0.99

01:19:16.000 Imagine what would happen if somebody posted on a platform and people found out that they had bought an OnlyFans subscription and all their comments were filled with, ha ha ha ha, unfollowed, unfollowed, you're a loser, you're nasty, you're a loser. 0.99

01:19:30.000 These people would never do it again. 0.99

01:19:31.000 They'd be like, no way, man.

01:19:32.000 100% agree with you on the cultural implications and there being shame and there being an incentivization towards the nuclear family and towards people being virtuous.

01:19:42.000 However, when I do look at the industry of porn, when you look at it holistically and you sort of zoom out on it, this is the reason for so much human trafficking in the world.

01:19:50.000 It's the reason why CP is made.

01:19:52.000 And if you're looking at purely from a utilitarian point of view, the damage is unbelievable with this industry.

01:19:58.000 So, I mean, I can really see a case where we would have much stricter laws on these things in the West.

01:20:05.000 And also, there's been studies done that show that the countries that are more liberal about it, like Holland and these sort of northern European countries, they tend to have much larger industries and much larger influxes of human trafficking.

01:20:17.000 Yeah, I don't disagree.

01:20:19.000 I do think we should legislate.

01:20:21.000 I do.

01:20:21.000 But I think it's important to stress that when you get to the point in society where you're writing things down to make sure people don't do it, you have an immoral society.

01:20:28.000 And there's a massive failing there.

01:20:30.000 However, I do think OnlyFans is abhorrent.

01:20:35.000 And I think the big problem we have to start with, we can talk about whether we ban something like this or not.

01:20:39.000 The problem right now is that even X allows porn.

01:20:42.000 Okay, this is basically saying...

01:20:45.000 If a child walks out into the middle of New York City and someone gets a buck naked, they'll arrest the person.

01:20:53.000 Because there's decency laws.

01:20:55.000 On the internet, however, a child can log in at 14 years old, a young teenager, and go on X and see radical, insane fetish porn.

01:21:04.000 And it's allowed?

01:21:05.000 No, I think we should pass a legislation that says, if X, YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, I don't care.

01:21:12.000 Instagram.

01:21:13.000 If they allow access in any way to adult content or graphic content to children, then they are They were penalized criminally like any other company.

01:21:22.000 What about Pornhub then?

01:21:24.000 Because Pornhub has had many different instances in the past where they've had children who have been on there for weeks, CP, and it's got millions of views and millions of impressions.

01:21:32.000 And they should be criminally penalized for that.

01:21:34.000 And they've already had numerous states enact ID requirements where Pornhub's been like, oh, why are they making us require IDs?

01:21:40.000 Because the adult bookstore down the street doesn't let kids in, and neither should you.

01:21:44.000 Yep.

01:21:45.000 I was gonna follow up in like the real world and pragmatic practice of this is that in something like 15 odd states now they um Pornhub ended up um Blocking service because those states were pushing forth laws that required, I believe, state IDs to prove they're above 18 to access their website.

01:22:02.000 I think that's a sort of sensible regulation.

01:22:04.000 I don't think banning is the proper direction to go, but something like more regulation around access, especially for kids, as we advance into such a technologically savvy environment where these kids probably know more about tech than we do.

01:22:18.000 I want to jump to this next story, which is a bit more personal.

01:22:20.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we are leaving West Virginia.

01:22:22.000 I regret coming to the state.

01:22:24.000 I didn't do proper research, and I didn't think I would have had to have done research in this field.

01:22:28.000 But, you know, look, let me put it this way.

01:22:32.000 First, I want to apologize to my friends in West Virginia who work in governance, who are desperately trying to find some way to rectify the issues the state has.

01:22:39.000 And unfortunately, I will tell you, the fact that it has come to me discussing this in the first place means that we are well past this.

01:22:47.000 West Virginia's tax laws are psychotic.

01:22:50.000 They require itemization of all objects you own, including your chairs and pens. 0.96

01:22:54.000 It's just ridiculous.

01:22:55.000 And I can say this. 0.77

01:22:57.000 If I am wrong about any of this, then it's actually easier than all of that.

01:23:00.000 We're being harassed by the state, so I'm leaving.

01:23:02.000 And so I've had a lot of conversations with people who work in local governments.

01:23:06.000 Of course, we're friends with some of these people.

01:23:07.000 And I've informed them every step of the way, I will never, never will there be a time where Tim Pool makes a phone call to the government and says, I, Tim Pool, want you to do a favor for me.

01:23:15.000 Never going to happen.

01:23:16.000 I won't go to a building and demand special treatment.

01:23:19.000 I won't try and enter a club and be like, I'm never going to do it.

01:23:23.000 And so as we've encountered these...

01:23:25.000 These ridiculous business regulations and hurdles.

01:23:29.000 I have largely just said, well, it's the nature of business.

01:23:32.000 And I've been like, well, I don't like that.

01:23:33.000 I don't like this.

01:23:34.000 We've come to a crux, however, in that I have recently discovered that in 2021, West Virginia effectively banned individual contracting.

01:23:44.000 I am so deeply offended by that move.

01:23:49.000 I regret ever coming to the state and putting any money into it.

01:23:52.000 It is on par with, we have this here from Investopedia, what California did with AB5 and it's why we largely do not work with anyone based in California.

01:24:03.000 Very few things motivate me to such rage and this is one of them.

01:24:10.000 This has to do with the gig economy, and West Virginia followed California in basically saying that if you are an individual who wants to do work in any capacity, you must register as a business first or be an employee, taking away the rights of individuals to choose when and how they work.

01:24:27.000 And I am shocked and offended that West Virginia put this law in place in June of 2021, right before we started our expansion.

01:24:36.000 So had I done my proper research, I would have easily seen...

01:24:39.000 That West Virginia was banning contracting, and I would have said we will never go near this state.

01:24:43.000 And so we've run into this because we have talent contracts.

01:24:48.000 And there's reasons why we have contractors versus employees.

01:24:51.000 There's a difference.

01:24:52.000 Due to the nature of contract law, there are certain legal requirements we have with employees pertaining to intellectual property and disclosure and things like this.

01:25:03.000 And it has nothing to do with, like...

01:25:06.000 There's a lot of people out there who think NDAs, non-disparagements, and non-disclosures are because companies have secrets.

01:25:13.000 For us, it's because we have movie ideas.

01:25:17.000 It's because we have songs that have not been released.

01:25:19.000 It's because we have technological advancements and plans for a media company.

01:25:24.000 And with that...

01:25:28.000 Why?

01:25:29.000 Certain contractors already work for other companies, but we want to share talent.

01:25:33.000 Certain contractors have a list of personal intellectual property that we would never negotiate ownership of, creating a distinction between when someone's a contractor and someone's an employee.

01:25:43.000 Well, we're getting heat from the state because we have people who drafted a report on, like, I'm not going to get into too much nitty-gritty on this, but we've been butting heads with the state because, for instance, a single individual who doesn't own a business said, I can help you draft a report on X. And we were like, that would actually be really helpful for us expanding our business.

01:26:04.000 And the state came down and said, how dare you contract an individual?

01:26:08.000 And we were confused.

01:26:09.000 We were like, what do you mean?

01:26:11.000 It's an individual who lives in West Virginia who offered to do some work over the weekend for us to literally just draft a report on a certain issue.

01:26:18.000 And they said, that's not allowed in this state.

01:26:19.000 That's illegal.

01:26:20.000 And we were like, what?

01:26:22.000 And so we began looking into this, and sure enough, that's West Virginia's new law, the Employment Law Worker Classification Act, which uses the excuse of Uber and other BS to create absolutely psychotic provisions as to what constitutes an employee or a contractor, which restricts our ability to work with top talent.

01:26:44.000 So if I go to a famous individual and say, we want to contract you for a series of shows that are, can't do it.

01:26:50.000 Because they're going to be an employee so long as we require locations.

01:26:53.000 Like, I'll put it this way.

01:26:54.000 Timcast IRL can't have contracted talent because online conversations can be hosted from a remote location.

01:27:01.000 And if we require them to be in the studio, that's an employment restriction.

01:27:03.000 And now they're employees.

01:27:05.000 But if they're employees, we're required to give them our company policy employee contract, which creates ownership of IP. It is an absolute disaster.

01:27:13.000 And so I can show you some of these stupid garbage that's in this thing. 1.00

01:27:18.000 The form that was sent to us from the government. 1.00

01:27:20.000 Check this out.

01:27:21.000 How to determine whether or not someone's an employee or a contractor?

01:27:25.000 If a worker has the right to quit at any time without incurring liability, this indicates an employer-employee relationship.

01:27:31.000 Well, we have a company policy with HR requirements.

01:27:34.000 We cannot have policies that are not uniform.

01:27:38.000 So if we apply it to one employee, it has to apply to all.

01:27:40.000 So if we hire an employee for creative work and say that if you produce a creative work, we own the rights to that, that's what we've hired you for, that would have to apply to anyone who falls under this criteria.

01:27:49.000 So we have independent contractors.

01:27:51.000 We say, hey, we want you to only do one specific thing because we don't want to buy out the rest of your IP or anything related to the work you do.

01:27:58.000 Can't do it.

01:27:58.000 Because if the individual has a right to leave at any moment, they're now an employee and we must implement our uniform employee policy on everyone, making it impossible to work in the state.

01:28:08.000 And don't get me wrong, it's not just West Virginia, it's also California and a bunch of other states that are doing this.

01:28:13.000 The reason why this makes me so angry...

01:28:15.000 It's because while the law may be constructed in such a way that says something like, no, no, it's only if certain criteria within this are met.

01:28:24.000 There's ways around it.

01:28:26.000 Simply set a term.

01:28:27.000 If you want to contract someone, set a timeline.

01:28:30.000 Okay, so now I have to have everyone under term contracts?

01:28:33.000 Congratulations to all Timcast contractors.

01:28:35.000 You are now not allowed to work for anyone else for this amount of time.

01:28:39.000 We don't do that.

01:28:40.000 Well, they're requiring us to do that, and I refuse.

01:28:43.000 I believe these moves that are passing in California and West Virginia and a bunch of other states are intended to push forward that you will live in the pot and you will eat the bugs world, where, guess what?

01:28:53.000 If you are a man, or a woman, whatever, if you're a person, and you live in your house and in your spare time you build birdhouses, and eventually some guy notices it and says, hey, would you like to build some birdhouses for me, for my company?

01:29:07.000 Eh, can't do it.

01:29:08.000 Either their employees or their contractors because the work has to fall under rigid guidelines.

01:29:15.000 In West Virginia, one of those is an individual who wants to do work must be a registered business entity.

01:29:21.000 That's right.

01:29:22.000 The state has personally informed us that if you are an individual in West Virginia, you have no right to contract your work, period.

01:29:30.000 You have to form a business.

01:29:31.000 You have to get a license to do it.

01:29:33.000 You have to ask the state permission to be able to mow someone's lawn.

01:29:36.000 Now, I've had phone calls from a ton of people being like, please, Tim, don't do this.

01:29:41.000 It's embarrassing for the state.

01:29:42.000 And I apologize because I know the state was largely run by Democrats for a long time.

01:29:47.000 And just recently, we've had a change of the administration.

01:29:50.000 But it's going to take them years to sort this stuff out.

01:29:53.000 And they are trying to place enforcement action against us, telling us we are not allowed to contract people.

01:29:58.000 So we've already had to go through our entire list and be like, guys, Maryland didn't make us do this.

01:30:03.000 We didn't even realize this was a law.

01:30:05.000 And that's our fault.

01:30:06.000 So we're going to have to pay the penalties and pay what we have to pay.

01:30:09.000 But from this point forward, if you want to do any work with us, you must be a corporation registered in West Virginia with a license.

01:30:16.000 Come back to us when you have it.

01:30:17.000 And if you operate outside of the state, same thing applies.

01:30:21.000 this is absolutely offensive, that So let me tell you about what happened with California with what their AB5 bill is.

01:30:28.000 Vox.com, they had a website called SB Nation.

01:30:32.000 California said because of the gig economy and the exploitation of contractor work, we're passing a law that says after a certain amount of gigs, you're officially an employee.

01:30:41.000 So what happened?

01:30:42.000 A bunch of people, how freelance writing works.

01:30:46.000 Somebody will write an article and then they'll send it to some people they know in media and say, hey, would you want to buy this article?

01:30:51.000 I just wrote it.

01:30:52.000 A company will then be like, yeah, we'll give you $100 for it.

01:30:55.000 What happened after AB5 passed is that all these media companies terminated all of their freelance contractors.

01:31:02.000 But understand what this means.

01:31:03.000 This means that people in California who of their own volition produce an artistic work are now barred from selling it to media companies because the state has put a restriction on those companies saying if you purchase a certain amount of these products, you must employ the individual.

01:31:19.000 That means the individual doesn't have the choice to be an independent contractor anymore.

01:31:23.000 They are required now to be an employee of someone else's company.

01:31:26.000 Maybe they don't want to be.

01:31:27.000 Maybe they're like, I don't want to work for that guy.

01:31:29.000 I do my own work in my own house, on my own laptop, and then I choose who I sell to.

01:31:34.000 No.

01:31:35.000 And then when you become an employee of another company, they're going to have corporate policies saying you can't work for anybody else.

01:31:39.000 And that effectively ends the careers of individuals.

01:31:42.000 What this is, California, West Virginia, and again, many other states, they are moving to ban the right of individuals to do work for money.

01:31:49.000 And it is one of the most offensive things imaginable to me.

01:31:53.000 And for this, this is the straw in the camel's back.

01:31:56.000 There's a lot of other problems that I can deal with.

01:31:58.000 We wanted to make West Virginia great, but this one is offensive to me and my moral framework.

01:32:04.000 This is, you will live in the pot and eat the bugs.

01:32:07.000 You will work for Walmart, not the mom and pop shop.

01:32:10.000 Because who has the ability to navigate these laws?

01:32:13.000 Massive multinational corporations.

01:32:15.000 That is the world they're trying to build.

01:32:16.000 So I'm done.

01:32:17.000 They say, in this, AB5 was designed to regulate companies hiring gig workers.

01:32:21.000 So what?

01:32:22.000 If I use an app to communicate and decide I want to drive today and pick someone up and drop them off, I'm not an employee of Uber.

01:32:29.000 Simply because technology has changed, they have now taken away your right to be an individual who wants to do work.

01:32:35.000 So let me break it down.

01:32:37.000 If I want some local and I said, hey, I got some weeds growing by my house, you want to take care of them for me?

01:32:44.000 The law in West Virginia puts the liability on me personally.

01:32:48.000 As the hiring individual to check that this person has a registered business and license to operate in West Virginia.

01:32:55.000 Not interested.

01:32:56.000 That's my rant on that.

01:32:58.000 That's why we're leaving, and I don't know, a bunch of states are adopting this.

01:33:03.000 It's insane.

01:33:05.000 When we operated out of Maryland, this never was an issue, and the fact that West Virginia is choosing to take enforcement action against us offends me.

01:33:12.000 It is disrespectful, and I've got to be honest, this is largely why I think it's been impossible to get the anti-Times Square thing moving.

01:33:19.000 Nobody will open businesses in this state, and I think it's their own fault, and we are now intent on divesting as quickly as humanly possible.

01:33:28.000 So I know that there are people in the legislature, they've been trying to talk to me.

01:33:31.000 I know someone tweeted the government was trying to reach out to me.

01:33:34.000 Look, with respect, that should not be the case.

01:33:38.000 That a small business in the state is now barred from hiring a contractor unless, and get this, it's going to cost you $300 to go through the registration too.

01:33:45.000 If you want to mow someone's lawn, spend the $300 to register with the state first because they've taken away your right to do work.

01:33:52.000 It's insane.

01:33:53.000 And it should not be the case that because I have a large show and some sort of influence that I get special access to government.

01:34:01.000 And I told them this.

01:34:02.000 I will never ask for a favor.

01:34:04.000 If this is how you run your state, I will not be here and I will not do business here.

01:34:08.000 And the reality is a lot of states do business like this.

01:34:11.000 It is corrupt.

01:34:12.000 It is evil. 0.99

01:34:12.000 And I won't stand for it. 0.99

01:34:14.000 I don't know if anybody else wants to chime in on that before we go to Super Chats.

01:34:17.000 F them. 0.98

01:34:19.000 You're screwing us, West Virginia. 0.98

01:34:22.000 Governance. 0.81

01:34:24.000 I admire that you're unwilling to accept help from the government.

01:34:29.000 Accept special treatment, rather.

01:34:31.000 That's an admirable thing.

01:34:33.000 Because many people in your shoes would be talking to the governor or talking to the congressman.

01:34:38.000 All of them would love to be on your good side.

01:34:41.000 So they're politically interested, obviously, in scratching your back.

01:34:45.000 This is normal.

01:34:46.000 It is normal for an eight-figure company with several dozen employees.

01:34:52.000 To contact local governance and say, give me special treatment.

01:34:56.000 That's what they all do.

01:34:58.000 I despise that our government is built of this, but maybe I'm just naive.

01:35:02.000 Maybe this is the way it has always been and always will be, because how else could it be?

01:35:06.000 You run a business.

01:35:07.000 You build up to a certain size.

01:35:09.000 The state wants your tax revenue.

01:35:11.000 They want you to move people here.

01:35:12.000 They want you to, in our instance, proselytize the greatness of West Virginia.

01:35:16.000 And my option is, okay, I will publicly claim we are happy with the state's laws and regulations and encourage other people to come here because you've given me a favor.

01:35:26.000 I won't do that.

01:35:27.000 So I told them, with respect, I appreciate they're trying to help.

01:35:31.000 But I am offended at how the state runs itself.

01:35:33.000 They can choose not to enforce these things for the time being and call a special legislative session to abolish these ridiculous and psychotic draconian laws that strip the rights away from working class people. 0.76

01:35:45.000 But I'm not going to take a favor from them, nor am I going to go on my show or go on accident and be like, everything's great.

01:35:50.000 What a great place to be.

01:35:54.000 We've run into roadblocks and hurdles with regulation in the state already.

01:35:57.000 Their tax laws are psychotic.

01:36:00.000 Everyone complains about it.

01:36:01.000 They require you to itemize literally everything you have.

01:36:04.000 And I was talking to our accountant.

01:36:05.000 I'm like, our chairs?

01:36:07.000 Like a folding chair that costs $10?

01:36:09.000 Yep.

01:36:10.000 It's got to be listed, itemized.

01:36:11.000 You got to pay taxes on it.

01:36:12.000 I gotta pay property tax on a folding chair?

01:36:14.000 Yes, you do. 0.96

01:36:15.000 And I was like, man, that's ridiculous. 0.93

01:36:16.000 But okay, like, I understand. 0.94

01:36:18.000 I tolerate that.

01:36:20.000 I don't tolerate this. 0.85

01:36:21.000 This is 2030 Agenda garbage that says because technology advanced and we must get access to your tax revenue. 0.90

01:36:31.000 Let me put it this way. 0.62

01:36:33.000 The real reason they say for these bills in California and West Virginia is because Uber...

01:36:38.000 Is misclassifying employees wrong?

01:36:40.000 It's because they want payroll taxes and they don't want to lose revenue.

01:36:44.000 But if that were really the case, then they would simply go after people who don't pay their taxes.

01:36:50.000 If someone comes to me and says, I can draw you a beautiful picture of a chicken and I say, I would like to hire you to draw that chicken picture.

01:37:00.000 They have to be a registered business entity.

01:37:02.000 And there's a bunch of other restrictions pertaining to whether they're a contractor or they're an employee.

01:37:07.000 And one of them is like, here's another one.

01:37:11.000 Here's a big one.

01:37:12.000 If we contract someone, they have the legal right to hire someone else to do that job.

01:37:18.000 So if I contract someone who's talented to do hosting on IRL, they have a legal right to send a random person I don't know to do the job.

01:37:27.000 That's what they sent us.

01:37:29.000 That's what it says.

01:37:29.000 And I'm like, well, that can't be the case.

01:37:31.000 And they're like, well, then if you have a singular individual who appears on a regular scheduling basis, they must be under employment law.

01:37:37.000 And your employment, your company policies as per how employment works have to be uniform.

01:37:42.000 And I'm just like, okay, so we're shutting the company down.

01:37:44.000 F you.

01:37:45.000 It's not happening.

01:37:46.000 Like, we're leaving.

01:37:47.000 That's the only thing we can do.

01:37:48.000 And so there's temporary stopgap measures, but it's insane that they're doing this.

01:37:52.000 I believe this is largely attached to the you will live in the pot and eat the bugs and I believe it largely flies under the radar because West Virginia implementing these laws doesn't really affect anybody of consequence to generate something like this, this news, until us.

01:38:08.000 California did this, and it created a huge media splash because it resulted in, I think, 300 people got fired from Vox or something like this.

01:38:17.000 Hundreds of people lost their writing jobs.

01:38:20.000 That made big news when journalists lost their job and tweeted up a storm saying, I just got fired because of this law, which was a bit ironic considering this was pushed by unions and Democrats in the state.

01:38:33.000 So we're not seeing the news on all of the states that are implementing bans on individual contracting because most people just it doesn't it doesn't hit the news the same way like a burning building does.

01:38:44.000 But what's going to happen in 10 years?

01:38:46.000 Kids are going to grow up and be like, what do you mean?

01:38:48.000 It's normal to not be allowed to work.

01:38:49.000 The only way you can get a job is if a company offers you employment.

01:38:52.000 This is the way it's always been.

01:38:55.000 It should be that I can walk up to a lot and say, hey, I'll give you five bucks to do a thing for me.

01:38:59.000 Just make sure you pay your taxes.

01:39:00.000 Not anymore.

01:39:01.000 They're banning that all over the country.

01:39:03.000 Our lawyer was telling us, like, hey, these laws are popping up everywhere.

01:39:05.000 They are outright making it so that if you are an individual, you can't work.

01:39:10.000 You have to be the employee of Walmart.

01:39:12.000 You want to open a mom and pop shop?

01:39:14.000 Good luck.

01:39:14.000 We banned those during COVID, but Walmart got special provisions.

01:39:18.000 Anyway.

01:39:18.000 I wonder if any of the migrants are having any trouble working in West Virginia, huh?

01:39:22.000 I doubt it.

01:39:24.000 That reference to the story about the FBI agents.

01:39:26.000 FBI agents raid a building in Providence.

01:39:28.000 Central Falls judge resigns.

01:39:30.000 What we know it looks like, the judge himself, I put it in the Slack if you want to take a look, it looks like the judge himself was an illegal immigrant.

01:39:38.000 What?

01:39:39.000 Yeah.

01:39:41.000 I think you'd have to be a citizen to be appointed to a judge.

01:39:44.000 FBI agents raid a building in Providence.

01:39:46.000 Central Falls judge resigns.

01:39:50.000 This is a court-authorized activity.

01:39:52.000 What did it specifically say about the judge?

01:39:55.000 Oh, a little bit higher.

01:39:56.000 Melina Flynn was the first openly gay person, formerly undocumented person to serve on the bench.

01:40:02.000 She's formerly undocumented.

01:40:04.000 So he was given some kind of clemency, I guess. 0.54

01:40:06.000 Are they getting rid of him because he's undocumented or because he's gay?

01:40:09.000 He's formerly undocumented.

01:40:11.000 Well, I don't know.

01:40:13.000 Let's go to Super Chats, my friends.

01:40:15.000 We'll read what y'all have to say.

01:40:17.000 Don't forget to smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.

01:40:19.000 Become a member over at TimCast.com to support our work directly, especially now that we're going to be moving.

01:40:24.000 And I put up a poll saying Texas, Florida, Tennessee, or New Hampshire.

01:40:28.000 And Texas is the winner, but it's awfully hot.

01:40:31.000 And their laws aren't so good either, to be completely honest.

01:40:34.000 I put that up not because we intended to go to any of those states, but it was because I wanted to see what people thought.

01:40:39.000 And those are the most popular states.

01:40:41.000 Although a lot of people are saying Missouri and stuff.

01:40:43.000 You know, we did talk about Wisconsin.

01:40:46.000 Because being from Chicago, we know the area.

01:40:48.000 We like the weather.

01:40:50.000 And I would like to build something in Chicago because it's where I'm from.

01:40:54.000 Family and things like that.

01:40:55.000 But Chicago is so corrupt.

01:40:58.000 Yeah, it's never going to happen.

01:41:00.000 Anywhere you go is going to be corrupt, though.

01:41:02.000 I don't know.

01:41:02.000 Can it get much worse than here?

01:41:03.000 West Virginia is actually pretty good.

01:41:05.000 The problem is that it's chaotic.

01:41:10.000 And they know not what they do.

01:41:14.000 But I'm hearing that Tennessee actually, there's a reason why everyone's moving there.

01:41:18.000 So a bunch of people hit me up, prominent conservatives from all over the country said they're moving to Tennessee because the laws are actually really good.

01:41:25.000 Good property market as well.

01:41:27.000 Yeah.

01:41:28.000 No income tax.

01:41:30.000 The property values are skyrocketing because everyone wants to move there.

01:41:34.000 And I'm looking into it, and there's a lot of friends and allies who live in Tennessee.

01:41:38.000 Robbie Starbuck, of course, the Daily Wire crew.

01:41:40.000 I don't want to spill the beans on the other people who are already planning on moving there, but some large, prominent creators, influencers, and conservatives that you all know and have been on this show have told me that they're actually relocating as well.

01:41:52.000 Australia as well?

01:41:53.000 I think I'm moving there next year.

01:41:55.000 Australia?

01:41:56.000 No, Tennessee.

01:41:57.000 Oh, okay.

01:41:57.000 I was like, yeah, because Australia's where they like it.

01:41:58.000 Anyway.

01:41:59.000 Australia's already in the pods.

01:42:00.000 We're going to have that members-only show coming up at TimCast.com, so click Join Us, become a member, but we'll read your Super Chats.

01:42:06.000 The deplorable Mrs. Drake says the reason why we give even murders and criminals respect and dignity. 1.00

01:42:11.000 Jordan Peterson said, if we see each other as divine centers of consciousness, the world is a better place.

01:42:16.000 Leftists don't see people that way.

01:42:17.000 Yeah, they don't see people.

01:42:20.000 Crispy Joe says, can I get another graph go up?

01:42:22.000 That was really good.

01:42:23.000 That was Angela McArdle. 0.95

01:42:24.000 She was talking about the Lulberts, the libertarians who are like, nothing matters as long as we make money.

01:42:29.000 And it's like, yeah, okay.

01:42:30.000 Morals matter, man.

01:42:31.000 Vincent O'Rourke says the 20th Amendment should be the president cannot pardon anyone after the election if they lose.

01:42:38.000 Thoughts?

01:42:38.000 Nah, disagree.

01:42:39.000 I don't mind having like a panel that can like veto a pardon.

01:42:44.000 But even that's debatable.

01:42:46.000 There's a reason why we give the president pardon powers.

01:42:49.000 It's because there needs to be an individual check on a rigid bureaucratic machine. 0.96

01:42:55.000 If we're going to strip away the power to pardon for any period of time, I think we should just strip it from the president altogether.

01:43:01.000 I think the pardon does kind of undermine our whole judicial system to begin with.

01:43:05.000 It's like, oh, we can go through the entire process.

01:43:07.000 You can be found guilty by a jury of your peers.

01:43:09.000 It was nice that we did the whole thing.

01:43:11.000 But actually, the president decided that you didn't commit a crime or should get out early.

01:43:16.000 It just seems like an extra at the bottom of our judicial system.

01:43:19.000 It's a backdoor that needs to exist.

01:43:20.000 There's always got to be two points of egress.

01:43:25.000 So when it comes to the judicial system, juries get things wrong.

01:43:29.000 And there are circumstances where courts refuse to acknowledge a person's innocence or release them like when Kamala Harris did it.

01:43:34.000 But I don't think that's what's going on with the pardons.

01:43:36.000 I'm sure that juries find wrong decisions all the time.

01:43:38.000 But when pardons are given out, they're almost always political completely.

01:43:42.000 Certainly.

01:43:42.000 And then if you banned it, the J6ers would be locked up forever.

01:43:45.000 Sure, and I think that's a failure on our judicial system. 0.99

01:43:48.000 And then having the backdoor kind of undermines the whole system to begin with.

01:43:52.000 I disagree.

01:43:53.000 It's one person.

01:43:54.000 It's used only in limited circumstances.

01:43:56.000 And we just had those pro-lifers get pardoned.

01:43:59.000 Elderly people who are like sitting in front of a building. 1.00

01:44:01.000 This is what the pardon power is for.

01:44:03.000 Not always used that way, but it is better that 10 guilty persons go free than one innocent person suffer.

01:44:07.000 So if the president is pardoning 10 guilty people and we roll our eyes and we grumble about it, and then one innocent person is released, I think it's a good thing.

01:44:15.000 And he should have that executive power.

01:44:17.000 I mean, what's the point of being president if you don't have the executive power to do that?

01:44:21.000 Jason Nixon says, Tim, tell me why you were considering leaving West Virginia.

01:44:24.000 I have land in Texas.

01:44:25.000 Maybe I can help you find property.

01:44:26.000 Kind of my thing.

01:44:27.000 Yeah, we're not going to go to Texas.

01:44:29.000 If we did, we would immediately go to Maryland.

01:44:32.000 Because we still have the studio there.

01:44:34.000 We still have the building there.

01:44:35.000 And we could literally do the show there right now.

01:44:38.000 Granted, we'd want to upgrade the cameras and get the lighting set properly and all that stuff.

01:44:41.000 Because we've got way better lighting now with the newly built studio.

01:44:44.000 And we're exploring ways to largely reduce and divest from West Virginia over this law.

01:44:52.000 And their tax law.

01:44:54.000 There's other issues, too.

01:44:57.000 Don't think I haven't seen the comments where they're like, Tim couldn't open a coffee shop in two years in West Virginia.

01:45:03.000 And what do you think the politicians in West Virginia say when I tell them, guys, we've been trying to open a coffee shop for two years.

01:45:10.000 How do you think that makes me look when I go on a show to millions of people and say, come to West Virginia, we're opening a coffee shop, which should take six weeks, and it's been two years and we can't do it.

01:45:20.000 Regulation is awful.

01:45:22.000 And so I'll tell you this.

01:45:24.000 A while ago, I told Allison, I give up.

01:45:27.000 I give up.

01:45:28.000 Sell the building.

01:45:29.000 We're done.

01:45:30.000 And Allison was just like, they're about to issue the permit.

01:45:33.000 We finally did it.

01:45:35.000 And this was like six months ago.

01:45:36.000 And I was like, really?

01:45:37.000 She's like, we're going to have it like this week.

01:45:39.000 And I was like, all right, fine.

01:45:41.000 We just got the permit.

01:45:43.000 It's been six months.

01:45:44.000 And so I said, nope.

01:45:45.000 Sell the building.

01:45:45.000 We signed the papers.

01:45:46.000 We're done.

01:45:46.000 We are done.

01:45:49.000 This is probably why when we were advocating for people to build in West Virginia and join us, nobody would.

01:45:55.000 Because the moment they take a look at the laws, the regulations, I was talking for some time with a very prominent individual in a particular industry, I'm going to keep it private, and I was telling them to relocate in West Virginia, and I was lobbying hard, and they came back to me and said, we've reviewed the Constitution, the laws, and the legislature of the state, and we're not going anywhere near it.

01:46:15.000 And I was really bummed out.

01:46:17.000 But this is where we're currently at, and so I'm at my wits' end.

01:46:21.000 You know, I can tolerate the regulation, and I say, maybe we'll find a different place to open the coffee shop.

01:46:26.000 We will figure this out.

01:46:27.000 But when I found out the state passed a law banning individual contracting, or at least passing regulations in such a way that it makes it nigh impossible for an individual to just do the work, I said, I ain't doing that.

01:46:38.000 That is evil.

01:46:39.000 That is evil!

01:46:41.000 If a 20-year-old guy knocks on a door and says, I'm hungry and need work, please let me work for you, he should have to file a $300 permitting process to the state to get a license to work on someone's farm.

01:46:53.000 There's got to be an employee.

01:46:55.000 Let me tell you what happened with this.

01:46:57.000 We were trying to hire someone, and the state took months to process the tax identification or whatever we needed to hire.

01:47:06.000 So we said, okay, we can't hire you because the state's in processing.

01:47:10.000 We'll contract you temporarily for certain specific jobs.

01:47:14.000 They're coming after us over this.

01:47:16.000 What is this?

01:47:18.000 Why did you contract this person?

01:47:19.000 Well, because we couldn't hire them as employees because you wouldn't file the paperwork because it took you three months.

01:47:22.000 They're like, you can't do that.

01:47:24.000 Penalty. 0.90

01:47:25.000 Screw you guys. 1.00

01:47:27.000 Evil, what they're doing. 1.00

01:47:30.000 Yeah, so I'm at my wit's end, man.

01:47:31.000 I'm so shockingly offended by this law.

01:47:34.000 I've never, there's very little that angers me as much as what they are doing to take away the rights of individuals to work.

01:47:40.000 Look, and another thing that's worth noting is like, these kind of things happen to business owners every day across the whole country.

01:47:48.000 And this is the kind of stuff that Musk is talking about with the federal doge, right?

01:47:53.000 And you still have all the problems on a state.

01:47:58.000 And municipal level, but there's also the federal government that you have to deal with.

01:48:01.000 These kind of things are a massive problem for any kind of industry at all.

01:48:08.000 So when you say, hey, we want to roll back regulation, people think, oh, you just want dirty air and dirty water and blah, blah, blah.

01:48:15.000 No, we want this kind of stuff taken care of.

01:48:18.000 Sorry, continue.

01:48:19.000 Well, you want to be able to hire people.

01:48:21.000 The biggest inhibitor to people having jobs and working...

01:48:26.000 Is the government.

01:48:27.000 We can't have skate contests.

01:48:30.000 We can't have skateboard contests.

01:48:32.000 We're finding this out now.

01:48:33.000 I was like, what do you mean?

01:48:34.000 So we have the park.

01:48:36.000 We have people sign waivers.

01:48:38.000 We have insurance.

01:48:38.000 They come and skate.

01:48:39.000 We've done this already.

01:48:41.000 We had like 17 contest winners.

01:48:43.000 They fill out their tax forms.

01:48:44.000 We pay them.

01:48:45.000 Can't do it in West Virginia.

01:48:46.000 Each individual who comes and performs a task in West Virginia must be registered as a business entity.

01:48:50.000 And I'm like, what?

01:48:51.000 A 20-year-old skateboarder from Ohio who came down for this one contest ain't going to be registering $300 in West Virginia to do a kickflip down a stair set.

01:49:00.000 So we're trying to do another contest where we call it Boonies Bounties, and we're trying to get people to produce more culture and content.

01:49:07.000 So we said, every month we're going to have a bounty on a trick.

01:49:11.000 This month it was a frontside 180. For those that don't know, it just means you spin.

01:49:14.000 You spin around.

01:49:15.000 And we said, film yourself, hear the contest rules, there's liability stuff.

01:49:19.000 The winner is chosen by our members at Boonies HQ, not by us, and the winner will receive $200.

01:49:25.000 And now our lawyer's like, maybe you could call it sponsorship, I guess?

01:49:30.000 Like, no.

01:49:31.000 We are not going to do any weird circuitous means by which we can pay a contest winner.

01:49:35.000 Well, then they have to register in the state of West Virginia because they're delivering a product to be displayed by a West Virginia business and they're operating in the state.

01:49:42.000 And I'm like, okay, do we cancel the contest?

01:49:44.000 Do we never?

01:49:45.000 This is evil stuff they're doing.

01:49:48.000 Evil.

01:49:48.000 We can't pay people?

01:49:50.000 I'm so offended.

01:49:51.000 I am so absolutely offended.

01:49:53.000 And I will tell you this.

01:49:56.000 Based on what they sent us.

01:49:58.000 It is – they could choose to enforce in any direction they want.

01:50:03.000 That is how evil this is.

01:50:04.000 They could choose to be like, you're fine there, but we want to go after you here.

01:50:07.000 Show me the man.

01:50:08.000 I'll show you the crime.

01:50:10.000 And I'll tell you this.

01:50:11.000 I've got the documents.

01:50:12.000 I pulled the law.

01:50:12.000 We've gone through it.

01:50:13.000 It appears to be this is the case.

01:50:15.000 I've had people in law be like, yeah, I know.

01:50:17.000 They did this, and it's been a hassle.

01:50:19.000 And I'm like, okay, well, I'm leaving.

01:50:21.000 Anyway, I'm not going to keep running.

01:50:22.000 I'm going to read some more Super Chats. 1.00

01:50:24.000 All right.

01:50:25.000 Dustin Wood says, Tim, please consider Arkansas as a state to move to.

01:50:28.000 We have universal school choice next year, super low property taxes, cheap land, beautiful mountains and rivers, common sense.

01:50:33.000 And Sarah Sanders, please check northwest Arkansas especially.

01:50:37.000 The first thing I'm going to do is check to see if your state is one of the states that have banned individual contracting and we won't set foot in them.

01:50:42.000 And I hope Tennessee hasn't done this.

01:50:44.000 They may have.

01:50:44.000 Who knows?

01:50:45.000 Maryland, I hope not, because that's actually our first point of reprieve.

01:50:50.000 But, you know what, man?

01:50:53.000 The bad news is...

01:50:55.000 There's no snow.

01:50:56.000 Got to have snow.

01:50:57.000 West Virginia has a little bit.

01:50:58.000 You can go snowboarding as a two-hour drive into the mountains.

01:51:01.000 So, you know, you don't got mountains.

01:51:05.000 You don't got skiing and snowboarding.

01:51:07.000 I don't know if we can do it.

01:51:08.000 If you want skiing and snowboarding, the answer is New Hampshire.

01:51:12.000 Because there's a lot of snowboarding and skiing up there.

01:51:14.000 Yeah, and it's not too difficult to get to, but it's surrounded by evil states.

01:51:20.000 So it's like, you know, I was talking with Luke about this a few years ago.

01:51:23.000 I was like, bro, you're surrounded on all sides by evil.

01:51:26.000 I don't want to put myself in that boat.

01:51:28.000 Plus, New Hampshire actually is Democrat.

01:51:30.000 Well, the state legislature is all Republicans.

01:51:34.000 But yes, the federal representatives tend to be Democrat.

01:51:38.000 Yeah, not doing it.

01:51:40.000 Not doing it.

01:51:41.000 I'll have to figure this one out.

01:51:42.000 I know Maryland's not good either.

01:51:43.000 But it's...

01:51:45.000 They didn't give us any hassle over this, and at least temporarily we're going to find a state to go to that isn't doing these evil things.

01:51:50.000 This is straight-up Agenda 2030 stuff, where they're taking away the rights of people to just work.

01:51:55.000 They want to take away your ability to trade with cash.

01:51:58.000 There's already a bunch of stores that don't accept cash.

01:52:00.000 They go credit-only, card-only.

01:52:02.000 They want central bank digital currencies, and they're going to say, if you want credit, you have to be an employee of the corporation.

01:52:09.000 You can't just do work for your neighbor.

01:52:10.000 I am offended.

01:52:11.000 One of the things here that is particularly unfortunate, too, is that the government thinks they're actually helping the workers, but they're harming them by not allowing them to get business at all, is so it seems.

01:52:20.000 And then they're just trying to line their pockets with forcing people to get these business permits.

01:52:25.000 I don't think that's why they're doing it.

01:52:26.000 I do not believe that they're intending to help anyone.

01:52:29.000 I genuinely believe these people are like, let's strip workers of their rights so that they're forced to be employees of Amazon, Walmart, Meta, etc.

01:52:38.000 They're going to work for the corporations.

01:52:40.000 You will own nothing and you will be happy.

01:52:42.000 You will live in the pot and you will eat the bugs.

01:52:43.000 Well, I think what they're trying to do is saying that if you do any small amount of work consistently for a company, that you're going to have to hire them full time.

01:52:50.000 But what they don't understand, I think, is that a lot of business would just forego hiring the people altogether if they can't be hired as a contractor instead of a full time employee.

01:52:58.000 Big corporations like Uber or whatever can easily...

01:53:03.000 Spend $10 million to adjust the company in such a way that it navigates the cracks of those laws.

01:53:08.000 We cannot.

01:53:09.000 We can't do it.

01:53:10.000 We can no longer contract talent.

01:53:12.000 We don't pay guests.

01:53:12.000 We never do.

01:53:13.000 But we do have periodically hosts and individuals that are contracted to appear on the show as talent.

01:53:19.000 We can't do it anymore.

01:53:21.000 Because specifically the laws, what the Senate states, that if the job can be done remotely, we can't require it.

01:53:27.000 Then it can be done anywhere.

01:53:30.000 So if like...

01:53:31.000 If I said, Tom McDonald, I'd say, hey, can we pay you to be a regular on the show?

01:53:36.000 Like, you choose your dates, whatever, you come by.

01:53:39.000 And he says, yes, he has to have the legal right to do it remotely and to hire someone else to do it.

01:53:45.000 And so it's like, okay, well, we can't contract it that way.

01:53:47.000 We can trust he wouldn't do that, right?

01:53:50.000 But then he has to register in the state as a business.

01:53:52.000 And it's just like, okay.

01:53:55.000 Otherwise, we have to apply our uniform employment policy to everybody.

01:53:58.000 Which then means that top talent to appear on a show are going to be like, no, because I have a show on another channel.

01:54:03.000 I can't be an employee.

01:54:04.000 Like, you know, with all due respect, I don't want to disclose too much about Luke's private life, but we talked with Luke about how we could have him permanently on the show, and the issue is he owns several companies himself, and we have a uniform employment policy which says you can't work for other companies.

01:54:18.000 And there's reasons for this because of IP rights and restrictions that we have to abide by.

01:54:21.000 So we were like, yeah, we can't do it.

01:54:23.000 Anyway.

01:54:25.000 We'll grab some more.

01:54:26.000 Just because I'm free says if there are elements in the government that helped the shooter and PA, I think it's important they are exposed.

01:54:32.000 If there was a corrupt cop, wouldn't you want them exposed?

01:54:34.000 The narrative that it'll create distrust in the police isn't an argument.

01:54:38.000 Agreed.

01:54:39.000 I think those files are at this point even more important than the JFK, RFK, MLK files.

01:54:47.000 Especially because it was so much more recent, but...

01:54:50.000 We'll see if they'll have a congressional hearing or investigation on that stuff.

01:54:53.000 I believe they said they would before the election.

01:54:54.000 The excuse is always that it's disruptive and could screw the economy up and stuff like that, and people would revolt and whatever, whatever.

01:55:01.000 All right.

01:55:03.000 Polly Pure says, Tim, check out Maine.

01:55:04.000 Tucker Carlson lives there and does his show there.

01:55:06.000 Actually, one of our first choices before we came to West Virginia was Maine.

01:55:11.000 It's expensive.

01:55:12.000 It's like certain areas are pretty expensive.

01:55:14.000 Hard to get to, and the Internet's not so good.

01:55:17.000 So we decided against it.

01:55:18.000 And Susan Collins would be your senator. 0.96

01:55:20.000 That would be miserable.

01:55:21.000 And, you know, but I don't know, maybe we should be going to these purple states where we can inject influence and actually force them to move in a certain direction. 0.60

01:55:28.000 What about Pennsylvania?

01:55:30.000 Yeah, that was Scott Pressler tweeted saying, go to PA and we will end the Democrat, you know, regime or control or whatever.

01:55:37.000 Because we'll exert influence in PA and stuff like that.

01:55:40.000 And I'm like, man, I don't know.

01:55:41.000 We'll have to call John Fetterman.

01:55:42.000 I'm sure he would lobby on PA's behalf too.

01:55:44.000 I don't want to go to a state and tell them to live my way.

01:55:48.000 I'm from Illinois.

01:55:49.000 That's where I grew up.

01:55:50.000 So if I went to Illinois and said, everybody, you're wrong.

01:55:53.000 Do my thing.

01:55:54.000 I feel fine about that because I grew up there.

01:55:57.000 Going to West Virginia, there's a reason why I don't ask for favors.

01:56:00.000 I don't want to come to West Virginia and tell these people how to live their lives.

01:56:03.000 I'm new here.

01:56:03.000 They lived here.

01:56:04.000 But the state enacted this literally right before we bought the property and began investment.

01:56:09.000 And it was an oversight on my part.

01:56:12.000 Should have checked.

01:56:13.000 I've been ranting about the AB5 bill in California.

01:56:16.000 I did a bunch of segments about how evil it is and corrupt.

01:56:19.000 And West Virginia is doing the same thing.

01:56:21.000 And it's corruption.

01:56:24.000 What a lot of the guys in government are saying is like, look, man, we had the Manchin Democrats in West Virginia, and the entrenched bureaucracy here has caused a lot of problems for everybody.

01:56:33.000 It makes it so nobody wants to come.

01:56:35.000 Nobody wants to do business.

01:56:36.000 They're saying like, give us time.

01:56:37.000 We're going to fix it.

01:56:38.000 And I'm like, look, the only way that would work is if they dropped enforcement against us and everyone else.

01:56:45.000 I'm not going to ask them to do that. 0.93

01:56:47.000 You know, if the governor wants to issue an executive order in the state that they're not going to enforce their crackpot evil garbage law.

01:56:54.000 On everyone in the state, maybe I'd consider it. 0.91

01:56:56.000 But I'm offended that they even passed the law.

01:56:59.000 That's egregious.

01:57:01.000 Alright, let's grab a couple more Super Chats.

01:57:02.000 Otherwise, I'm just ranting.

01:57:05.000 Digital Motion Media says, Here in Indiana, we have no issues like this, and it's really cheap to live here compared to most places.

01:57:10.000 Indeed, I like Indiana.

01:57:12.000 Indiana's red, right?

01:57:13.000 They had Mike Pence, though.

01:57:15.000 I'll forgive you for that, Indiana.

01:57:17.000 I've hung out in South Bend a little bit.

01:57:19.000 it.

01:57:20.000 Everybody in Chicago does.

01:57:20.000 Rusty Sheckover says, Tim, why do you need special favors?

01:57:24.000 Contact the state legislature and demand they repeal the gig law.

01:57:28.000 Make the state a better place for everyone.

01:57:29.000 If a guy owns a coffee shop and makes 40,000 a year calls the state legislature and says repeal this law, they'll say, OK, sure, fine, whatever.

01:57:35.000 Click.

01:57:36.000 And then never think about it twice.

01:57:37.000 If a dude with a combined like eight or nine million followers, maybe like 10 million followers, calls and says, I'm going to go on X to 2.3 million people and disparage your state, they're going to be like, I will do whatever you say.

01:57:47.000 And I hate that.

01:57:48.000 I reject that.

01:57:50.000 I flew on an American Airlines flight once, and it got canceled.

01:57:54.000 We got deplaned, and they said, due to the weather, this flight, or it was a mechanical issue.

01:57:59.000 And so everybody lined up and was complaining, like, trying to get rebooked.

01:58:05.000 My phone rings, and it was an agent being like, you're Executive Platinum.

01:58:11.000 We've already got your flight booked.

01:58:13.000 Don't worry about it.

01:58:14.000 And I'm like, I get that because I'm a customer.

01:58:19.000 I forgot what it was.

01:58:20.000 Maybe I got an email or something.

01:58:21.000 It's been a long time.

01:58:22.000 I get that because they're like, you're a priority customer.

01:58:25.000 You get special access.

01:58:26.000 I just really don't like that.

01:58:27.000 I'm like, everybody needed to be on that plane.

01:58:30.000 I understand there's limited space and that's the reality of it.

01:58:32.000 So what can I really complain about?

01:58:34.000 I got my flight while everyone else was stranded.

01:58:36.000 And all the first class and priority status people got rebooked and all the coach people were told, good luck.

01:58:44.000 And now we live in this era where if I go to McDonald's and they make my burger wrong, I send a tweet and all hell breaks loose at McDonald's.

01:58:52.000 And it's ridiculous that the world works that way.

01:58:55.000 Everybody's entitled to good service and accountability.

01:58:58.000 That means I should not talk to a legislature or a legislator or a mayor or whatever to get special favors.

01:59:07.000 And Rusty, I know you're saying it's not a special favor, but it is true.

01:59:11.000 If Elad calls them and says, I need something, they'll say, well, think about it.

01:59:14.000 If Tim Pool calls, they're going to be like, whoa, that's Tim Pool.

01:59:17.000 And that is just the reality of someone like me calling.

01:59:20.000 So apparently me tweeting that I was leaving put up a bunch of red flags and alarms were going off and the state was freaking out that I said this.

01:59:27.000 To be honest, guys, I really thought I was going to get 10 retweets when I said I was leaving West Virginia.

01:59:31.000 I didn't realize it was going to be 1,000.

01:59:35.000 It is extremely true.

01:59:36.000 If I called the state reps in West Virginia and said, hey, I'm having contracting issues, they would laugh at me.

01:59:42.000 Tim has this bully pulpit of his platform, obviously, and then all of his stuff that goes wrong with him becomes a PR nightmare, as opposed to us plebs, us regular citizens who don't carry around that kind of clout.

01:59:54.000 A lot of people...

01:59:56.000 A lot of people are saying Tennessee, of course.

01:59:58.000 That's why Texas, Florida, Tennessee, New Hampshire were the options.

02:00:01.000 Tennessee's really close and easy for us, and the weather isn't too different, and there's a lot of people moving there.

02:00:06.000 That's why we're like, oh, maybe Tennessee.

02:00:08.000 A ton of guests over there.

02:00:10.000 Wow, Sean Ryan's there, too.

02:00:12.000 It's the way to get it.

02:00:14.000 And there's like five other people who are prominent personalities in conservative media who told me they're moving to Tennessee, and I'm like, really?

02:00:20.000 I'll see you there, Tim.

02:00:21.000 This guy right here.

02:00:22.000 All right, everybody.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 24, 2025

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