Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump Deploys 2000 Feds To MN Over FRAUD, Democrat ADMITS Somali Daycare Fraud IS REAL | Timcast IRL

00:02:34.000 Donald Trump is sending 2,000 federal agents into Minnesota over the immigration problems, the fraud cases.

00:02:42.000 There's even been rumors floating for some time now that they could denaturalize and deport Ilhan Omar because the White House themselves tweeted she married her brother.

00:02:53.000 That's immigration fraud. 0.51

00:02:54.000 And the law is clear.

00:02:55.000 If you commit immigration fraud, they can denaturalize and deport.

00:02:57.000 We'll talk about that.

00:02:58.000 Then Tim Waltz's daughter has come out in a podcast and admitted, yeah, there's Somali daycare fraud going on in the state.

00:03:05.000 So it's funny that all these liberals rushed out to defend these daycares saying, what do you mean?

00:03:09.000 They're all totally legitimate.

00:03:11.000 And then she's like, well, my dad's resigning.

00:03:12.000 But yeah, there's enough truth to that that, you know, it's actually happening.

00:03:17.000 And then Donald Trump putting out a truth post saying that we're going to take large quantities of oil from Venezuela and sell it.

00:03:24.000 And he's going to be the one managing the money because, you know, you got to make sure it's done right.

00:03:30.000 But of course, it was always about the oil.

00:03:32.000 The question is, is it good for America?

00:03:34.000 And there's a big question in this as to how the right has been reacting to the actions of Donald Trump and to each other, to be completely honest, because there is, of course, this civil war among the right with various personalities fracturing off into different factions.

00:03:47.000 Same time, what I absolutely love about this Venezuela story is corporate press, some of which are still attacking Trump no matter what he does is wrong.

00:03:55.000 Some of which have gone rather neutral and are now just saying Trump, the president, and you know, took out the president of Venezuela and is going to take their oil instead of saying, you know, Trump, comba, convicted, sex offender, and fraudster. 0.55

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00:07:15.000 You know, we got a couple of great people joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else.

00:07:19.000 It's the lectern guy.

00:07:21.000 Hey, everybody, what's going on?

00:07:23.000 Happy to be here on January 6th.

00:07:25.000 Get up in that microphone, bro.

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00:07:29.000 Happy January 6th to all who celebrate.

00:07:31.000 My name is Adam Johnson, Lectern Guy, author of the book Taking a Stand about my journey through the federal prison and the government's abuse.

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00:07:46.000 I'm running because the best way to fix things is to start in your backyard.

00:07:49.000 Right on.

00:07:50.000 And the Democrats held a vigil, a candlelight vigil for J6, which is Australia. 0.93

00:07:55.000 I guess it's for Ashley Babbitt.

00:07:56.000 I'm not sure what they're holding a candlelight vigil for.

00:07:58.000 It's a vigil for the death of their party.

00:08:00.000 They're flaming.

00:08:01.000 Indeed.

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00:08:03.000 It's going to be fun.

00:08:03.000 We got Grammy's back.

00:08:05.000 I am back.

00:08:06.000 Thanks for having me.

00:08:07.000 Wish it was under better circumstances that I'm here.

00:08:10.000 I'm filling in.

00:08:13.000 But happy to be here as always.

00:08:15.000 Let's do this thing.

00:08:16.000 Yeah.

00:08:17.000 Earlier today, a couple members of our crew were in a very serious car accident.

00:08:22.000 And currently one is still in the hospital.

00:08:25.000 And I guess it's serious, but they'll be okay.

00:08:28.000 Mark, hope everything's all right.

00:08:30.000 But it was a very serious car accident.

00:08:33.000 The story that I'm told, actually, I'm not going to say too much because this could result in, I'm going to stop there.

00:08:39.000 You might get it.

00:08:40.000 But the vehicle they were in, they were riding with Uber and they got T-boned by a bus.

00:08:45.000 And I believe we were told by the police it's the Uber driver's fault.

00:08:49.000 So the car flipped, very serious injuries.

00:08:52.000 And for this reason, Ian, who had rushed to the hospital to go and check up on everybody, because of I don't want to rag anyone's private, but there were some sick people that were around in the ER, very seriously ill.

00:09:06.000 So we asked, okay, if you were in the hospital, don't come here because it was serious illness.

00:09:11.000 Not from our guys, but from the other people that were in their room and around their room.

00:09:14.000 So we asked Graham to fill in because of Ian magnanimously and honorably said he'll hold back because he doesn't want to get anybody sick after, you know, someone there.

00:09:27.000 I'm not going to say what the illness was because it's privacy issues.

00:09:30.000 We don't know who this person was who was sick, but they were very, very sick.

00:09:33.000 So that being said, it sucked, but I believe everyone's going to be okay.

00:09:38.000 So, you know, here's hoping.

00:09:40.000 Kellen was pretty banged up.

00:09:44.000 He was injured, but they did discharge him.

00:09:45.000 And he's going to be taking time off because it was a very serious car accident.

00:09:48.000 I guess the guys after the accident just woke up in the ambulance because of how serious the injuries were.

00:09:48.000 They flipped over.

00:09:54.000 Very serious head injuries.

00:09:55.000 But we're hoping everyone recovers and they're okay.

00:09:57.000 So thanks for coming in on short notice.

00:10:00.000 Glad to be here.

00:10:01.000 I happen to be in town.

00:10:04.000 And Phil is here as well.

00:10:05.000 Hello, everybody.

00:10:06.000 My name is Phil Abonte.

00:10:07.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.

00:10:09.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:10:11.000 Tate, how are you doing?

00:10:12.000 I'm doing all right.

00:10:13.000 I'm doing all right.

00:10:13.000 Yeah, I know Ian, so I'll bring the graphene discussions.

00:10:16.000 I was grokking it.

00:10:16.000 I've been reading up.

00:10:18.000 I really have a good understanding.

00:10:19.000 Yeah, Tate Brown, host Timcast News Live.

00:10:21.000 I'm happy to be here.

00:10:22.000 Right on, let's jump to the story.

00:10:23.000 We got this from CNN.

00:10:25.000 2,000 federal agents are being deployed to Minneapolis in an escalated immigration push.

00:10:31.000 Here's what we know: they say in the days since a conservative content creator raised allegations of fraud in a YouTube video with little evidence.

00:10:38.000 I love how they do this.

00:10:39.000 I love how they just, because look at what they're saying, right?

00:10:39.000 Okay.

00:10:42.000 A conservative content.

00:10:44.000 They could call him a journalist.

00:10:45.000 They could.

00:10:47.000 Allegations of fraud in a YouTube video with little evidence about Somali-run daycare centers.

00:10:53.000 Here's the New York Post.

00:10:54.000 Tim Waltz's firebrand daughter, Hope, admits there is enough truth in the Minnesota fraud scandal as she opens up about her dad's decision to drop out of the governor's race.

00:11:01.000 I love that they do these things.

00:11:03.000 CNN just peppers the lies into these stories.

00:11:07.000 And then at the same time, you get the daughter of the Democrat resigning, being like, yeah, this is basically happening.

00:11:13.000 So major escalation.

00:11:15.000 Here's the weird, the weird stuff going on right now, okay?

00:11:18.000 Obviously, we'll talk about this.

00:11:20.000 I'm going online and I'm seeing a bunch of people on the right attacking Trump.

00:11:24.000 You know, Dan Bongino announced he's coming back.

00:11:26.000 People are attacking Dan Bongino.

00:11:28.000 And I'm just sitting here being like, are we not happy that 2,000 federal agents are being deployed?

00:11:34.000 Like, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Trump is perfect and does everything right all the time, nor that he's evil and wrong and doing everything wrong all the time.

00:11:40.000 I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Dan Bongino walked through the doors of the FBI and instantly just turned into an evil demon.

00:11:46.000 That's ridiculous.

00:11:47.000 There's politics involved and not everything gets done the way you want to get done.

00:11:51.000 What is happening to where so many people are like, I've just decided Trump's bad now and I've just decided Dan Bongino's bad now.

00:11:59.000 It's like, bro, you were allowed to criticize them for screwing up and doing bad things, but we're looking at the story about what's going on in Minneapolis and they're responding quickly with something good.

00:12:08.000 Are we going to act like it's a bad thing?

00:12:10.000 They get the ice cream, they get the whipped cream, but they don't get the cherry on top.

00:12:10.000 I don't get it.

00:12:14.000 They're mad.

00:12:14.000 And that's the problem.

00:12:15.000 They're just having a temper tantrum because they didn't get everything they want.

00:12:18.000 The people that are really upset are the people that believe in their heart that there are people in the government or in the Epstein files or what have you that actually were pedophiles that were raping kids.

00:12:31.000 And they already believe that.

00:12:32.000 And so what they want is confirmation of what they already believe.

00:12:35.000 Whether or not that's true, I don't know.

00:12:37.000 But it's true.

00:12:40.000 Well, I mean, I don't know.

00:12:41.000 Odds are it's true.

00:12:42.000 You know, I don't know, but because Dan Bongino was head of the FBI and didn't give them what they want or deputy head, deputy of the FBI, and because he didn't give them what they want, well, he must be hiding the information for the FBI.

00:12:57.000 So he's part of the plan.

00:12:58.000 It's not just that he couldn't do it.

00:13:00.000 It's that, oh, he's in on it.

00:13:02.000 Well, I've been down the road from where Dan worked over at the Pentagon, really across the bridge or whatever.

00:13:09.000 I've said from the very beginning, everything with Dan Bongino, look, I know what Dan gave up because I know what we had to give up to go do a very similar thing at the Pentagon.

00:13:20.000 I've said from the very beginning, I trust Dan.

00:13:24.000 Do I necessarily trust every agent that gave Dan everything that he asked for and it was given to him in its entirety how it was originally?

00:13:34.000 No.

00:13:35.000 Just like I saw with Secretary Hagseth, he would ask for things and it would come in halves or not the whole thing or things would be left out.

00:13:43.000 We have let the American people believe that everything is just to Tim's point instant like that.

00:13:51.000 And I do believe that people thought that Dan Bongino was going to walk in the FBI building.

00:13:56.000 He was going to grab people like Comey by the throat and throw them in jail for the rest of their lives with no due process, no trials, no nothing.

00:14:05.000 And if you actually look at what Dan did get accomplished, it actually is very impressive.

00:14:11.000 And I believe that even more things are going to happen now that he's out from things that he initiated, got started, policies in place.

00:14:19.000 They reorganized the entire structure of the FBI.

00:14:24.000 I was in his office when he showed it to me.

00:14:26.000 The entire structure on how the FBI was organized.

00:14:31.000 Dan Bongino and Kash Patel eradicated, fired, got rid of, reorganized everything.

00:14:36.000 But normal people don't see that stuff and they don't realize how important that is as they move forward.

00:14:42.000 Yeah, the entire Intel apparatus for the last 60 years has been targeting right-wingers.

00:14:46.000 It's going to take a little bit of time to reorient these sorts of things.

00:14:49.000 Like people, people have this really grandiose idea of what this is going to look like as a political project.

00:14:55.000 And in their head, they're expecting a revolution and these sorts of things.

00:14:59.000 And it's like, we're trying to posture ourselves as the legitimate government, you know, the legitimate party.

00:15:05.000 And we're trying to correctly portray the Democrats as these crazy insane people because that's what they are.

00:15:13.000 You got to conduct things in a way that makes sense that's going to set yourself up for future success.

00:15:17.000 You don't want to just completely go balls of the walls.

00:15:20.000 I'm going to derail everything and just say that I think big tech and prominent influencers like Candace Owens are intentionally trying to destroy the right. 1.00

00:15:31.000 And so YouTube puts Candace on the front page.

00:15:35.000 That's how she gets massive viewership, largely.

00:15:37.000 It's promotion.

00:15:39.000 And they're doing it because it's destabilizing to the right.

00:15:42.000 Dan Bongino, and it feels rather coordinated.

00:15:45.000 We can get super conspiratorial.

00:15:47.000 How do you get rid of Dan Bongino, who's getting 150k concurrence on Rumble?

00:15:50.000 Bring him to the White House, bring him to the FBI.

00:15:53.000 He goes in.

00:15:54.000 It's an immovable object.

00:15:55.000 He's unable to get these things.

00:15:57.000 Then they immediately send out their propped-up influencers to accuse him of being evil when it's more like it's politics.

00:16:04.000 I can criticize Dan all day for I'm disappointed and Donald Trump for things I think did wrong as well.

00:16:09.000 But I'm not stupid.

00:16:10.000 I praise the things they do right.

00:16:12.000 And if not Dan, then who?

00:16:14.000 But I take a look at what's going on right now.

00:16:15.000 And you've got, there was one post where I want to stress this.

00:16:19.000 Like we have a deal, we have a sponsorship with Caul Shi, major competitor polymarket.

00:16:23.000 And then you get this viral post where someone posted Tim Poole's part of the 7K Polymarket Network, you know, funded by Israel to go after Candace Owens.

00:16:31.000 And I'm like, we have a sponsorship deal with their competitor.

00:16:34.000 But it's, you go on X and you're seeing all these prominent people on the right just saying the stupidest things in the world.

00:16:42.000 You've got people that are just screaming the Jews non-stop.

00:16:45.000 Candace Owens comes out and says we invaded Venezuela for Zionists.

00:16:48.000 And it's like, what?

00:16:49.000 That's just like an incongruent statement.

00:16:52.000 But there are a lot of prominent people that people have been in the show.

00:16:55.000 I got a message.

00:16:56.000 It might have been you.

00:16:56.000 I don't know.

00:16:57.000 Someone messaged me saying, Tim, why are so many of your former guests backstabbing you?

00:17:01.000 And I'm like, yeah, I don't know.

00:17:03.000 Weird stuff going on.

00:17:05.000 And then I'll give a shout out to Matt Strickland, the guy from VA, who during COVID, the state came and seized all his liquor and shut him down.

00:17:12.000 So we rallied, brought him on the show, went down to support him.

00:17:16.000 And then what does he do?

00:17:17.000 He goes on X, makes up a fake story about us having no security, lies and claims he went to our Virginia Studio.

00:17:22.000 He's never been to, so that he can just say Tim Poole's an Israel guy.

00:17:25.000 I'm like, I'm looking at all this going, wow, why would he do that?

00:17:30.000 Well, here's what I think, right?

00:17:32.000 We're talking about, and I know we derailed largely from the principle story that we're bringing up: Trump deploying 2,000 feds over this immigration stuff.

00:17:40.000 Good.

00:17:41.000 Exactly.

00:17:41.000 I'm like, I'm really happy about what's going on.

00:17:44.000 But for some reason, I go on X and all of these, not every single one, but most of these prominent, I shouldn't say most of, but many prominent right-wing people have flipped on a dime.

00:17:52.000 Their opinions are inverted.

00:17:53.000 Trump is bad now.

00:17:55.000 Everything he's doing is wrong.

00:17:56.000 And it's the Jews. 0.99

00:17:56.000 And I'm just like, I don't understand how some of these high-profile people flipped on a dime. 0.99

00:18:04.000 Seriously, it makes no sense.

00:18:06.000 I do understand how the lesser personalities are doing it because they're just grifters.

00:18:10.000 And you can really see who it is.

00:18:11.000 They need money.

00:18:12.000 So my opinion generally right now is that why is it that Candace Owens is propped up on the front page of YouTube?

00:18:20.000 And my front page, there's no default front page, but why is YouTube recommending someone breaking their rules to so many people?

00:18:27.000 It destroys the right populist movement in a midterm year, which we're entering, and Trump's going to get impeached.

00:18:32.000 So then what happens?

00:18:34.000 People like Matt Strickland, a disloyal betrayer who the lowest circle of hell is reserved for, knife me in the back by lying about us, leaving me shocked.

00:18:45.000 He could call me on the phone.

00:18:46.000 Well, people like him, he's a grifter.

00:18:50.000 Yes, he was wronged by the government.

00:18:52.000 We came to his aid.

00:18:54.000 But what he's looking at is how do I get more?

00:18:57.000 And so if all of these people are watching Candace and she's doing so well, I should be like her.

00:19:02.000 And one by one, these retards march in lockstep with their crackpot worldview. 1.00

00:19:07.000 Dan Bongino is now the bad guy.

00:19:09.000 Trump is now the bad guy.

00:19:10.000 And no, no, it wasn't the Democrats.

00:19:12.000 It was the Jews. 0.99

00:19:14.000 Good luck.

00:19:15.000 I mean, the influencer things, I mean, it's going to happen.

00:19:16.000 People want to make money.

00:19:17.000 They want to be famous.

00:19:18.000 They want to have clicks and likes.

00:19:19.000 I'm more concerned about the general population that follows along with this, right?

00:19:23.000 What is their mindset for hearing these things and saying, I believe these things, these things to be true?

00:19:27.000 And I think it's because it's very simple.

00:19:29.000 They want to blame someone.

00:19:30.000 They want to have a name for it, right?

00:19:32.000 And the easiest way to do that is say the people who are in charge, those are the names that I'm not going to blame because what happened to kids is terrible.

00:19:37.000 We can all agree on that.

00:19:38.000 And when you have evidence come out that's redacted, when you have, you know, people think they're slowing it down, they want to blame someone because what happened was terrible.

00:19:46.000 But they didn't just walk in.

00:19:47.000 There's not some room where all the information, all the files are sitting there with a nice little pretty bow on it and they're not being walked through this.

00:19:53.000 That's not real at all.

00:19:54.000 And investigations do take time.

00:19:56.000 This has been a 20-year process, right, with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:19:59.000 It's been a very long time.

00:20:00.000 And I mean, nothing's going to come out for it.

00:20:03.000 It's not going to happen.

00:20:04.000 And I don't think the left would have been, look, I'm not a criminal mastermind.

00:20:08.000 I did take down the entire government, you know, in the course of 20 minutes, but I wouldn't leave things behind that incriminated myself and my friends on the way out the door.

00:20:17.000 Yeah.

00:20:18.000 There's no button at the DOJ or DHS or any of these organizations.

00:20:21.000 There's no fix everything button that like you can just press and immediately solve everything.

00:20:26.000 And then these people who operate in this sort of outrage, that's where all the incentive structures point to is outrage, click, click, rage baiting, that sort of thing.

00:20:34.000 You can't expect them to understand prudence.

00:20:36.000 Like that's what the Trump administration is doing here.

00:20:38.000 They're being prudent.

00:20:39.000 They're being calculated because that's how you maintain power.

00:20:39.000 They're being careful.

00:20:42.000 I don't completely agree.

00:20:45.000 I think to a certain degree, yes.

00:20:47.000 I think with like the Epstein stuff, Trump wants to wield the one ring.

00:20:52.000 Trump gets in and is like, no, no, no, the Epstein stuff.

00:20:54.000 I think it largely has to do with the petrodollar.

00:20:56.000 I think we're going to find Saudi princes on the list.

00:20:58.000 I think Trump is like, I'm trying to renegotiate a contract with Saudi Arabia.

00:21:01.000 And if these princes are ousted, it's going to jam up our petrodollar negotiations.

00:21:05.000 Democrats are playing a game of chicken where they're basically like, if we can't have the ball, nobody can.

00:21:10.000 So the reason why these liberals are coming out being like Epstein and they're screaming about it is because they know Trump's between a rock and a hard place on the petrodollar deal.

00:21:18.000 You've got Democrats who demanded we remove Maduro, now claiming Trump's wrong for removing Maduro.

00:21:24.000 It's insane.

00:21:24.000 The question then becomes, why are people on the right all of a sudden on board with this?

00:21:28.000 Well, the Democrats got smart.

00:21:30.000 They tried in 2018 to censor and ban people who oppose the Uniparty establishment machine, and it did not work.

00:21:36.000 Some people did get banned.

00:21:36.000 It backfired.

00:21:38.000 That did work.

00:21:38.000 But for the most part, Trump's back.

00:21:40.000 Guess what?

00:21:41.000 Charlie Kirk is dead.

00:21:43.000 If you take a look at all of the machines and mechanisms that helped Trump and the populist movement win, and the Uniparty establishment got knocked down to an extreme degree, these things are being fundamentally dismantled.

00:21:55.000 With Charlie Kirk's assassination, the attacks on Erica Kirk.

00:21:59.000 Listen, you're allowed to not like Erica Kirk, but she's not really that much in the spotlight.

00:22:04.000 I saw this video of a woman insulting her, and I just, I thought to myself, like, I don't understand what Erica Kirk has done to warrant this extended campaign of people attacking her. 0.97

00:22:17.000 By all means, you can be like, she's unqualified.

00:22:19.000 Who is she to run turning point? 1.00

00:22:21.000 Okay.

00:22:21.000 I mean, she was just the wife of Charlie.

00:22:23.000 But to do these like insults, mockeries, accusing her of knowing about her husband's assassination, I'm just like, what did she do?

00:22:30.000 I don't look.

00:22:31.000 I can look at Nancy Pelosi and talk about the insider trading and be like scumbag.

00:22:36.000 I can look at Chuck Schumer, similar things and be like Democrat, Uniparty Shill, scumbag, Lindsey Graham, all these things.

00:22:42.000 Erica Kirk's barely been in the spotlight.

00:22:44.000 What the is going on?

00:22:46.000 Where tons of prominent right-wing personalities are marching in lockstep with this inverted narrative overnight?

00:22:52.000 Trump wins like flipping on a dime.

00:22:55.000 All these conservatives are now living in this crazy world of conspiracies.

00:22:59.000 The French legions, the Jews, Israel forced us to invade Venezuela. 1.00

00:23:04.000 And when you look at what is happening, remove intent from all of it.

00:23:10.000 I just look at the actions.

00:23:12.000 What have we seen so far?

00:23:13.000 Dan Bongino is now a villain.

00:23:15.000 He was the hero.

00:23:16.000 They were celebrating.

00:23:16.000 Kash Patel, the same thing.

00:23:18.000 Everybody campaigning.

00:23:19.000 They're unsatisfied with what they were able to get done.

00:23:21.000 Sure.

00:23:22.000 I look at what Trump did in his first term and I say, yeah, Trump did good, but messed a lot of things up.

00:23:28.000 I voted for him again.

00:23:30.000 I don't expect him to get everything done perfectly.

00:23:31.000 We said it over and over again.

00:23:33.000 Now, Dan and Cash are villains.

00:23:36.000 Now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is out.

00:23:38.000 You've got Matt Gates in a, I don't have too much bet.

00:23:43.000 I don't have anything really to say about Matt Gates critically, but he is moving away and him and Dan are now at odds.

00:23:48.000 You've got the death, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which has negatively impacted Turning Point, which was a massive force organizing for the right populist movement.

00:23:57.000 And you've got Candace Owens being propped up and effectively driving the normie mainstream right and suburban moms into retardation. 1.00

00:24:06.000 I'm like, I look at all of this and the one thing I say, the one thing I see that says to me it's intentional is that Candace has broken every rule on YouTube.

00:24:16.000 I mean it figuratively.

00:24:17.000 She's broken tons of the rules and YouTube makes sure she's propped up. 0.97

00:24:22.000 And I will add this too, because it's not about her.

00:24:24.000 I know people are going to be like, who Cruzbook is?

00:24:26.000 It's about big tech and what big tech is doing.

00:24:26.000 It's not about her.

00:24:29.000 Earlier today, on my following feed on X, I screenshotted this.

00:24:33.000 I shared it internally.

00:24:35.000 I got a post from Candace Owens on my following feed, not my for you.

00:24:39.000 I don't go to the for you.

00:24:40.000 It was following people I follow in reverse chronological recent to see what's coming in the news.

00:24:46.000 I don't follow Candace Owens on X. Why was her post in my feed? 1.00

00:24:50.000 Why is she being put up on the front page of YouTube? 1.00

00:24:52.000 Why is she breaking the rules and being propped up while saying retarded things that is resulting in people, some of whom used to watch this show, believing retarded things, come the midterms? 0.94

00:25:02.000 These people are anti-Trump now.

00:25:05.000 And they're anti-Republican, and it's going to help Democrats win. 0.53

00:25:09.000 So my opinion is, and this is a hypothesis, not a theory, Democrats realize censorship doesn't work.

00:25:16.000 What you have to do is control the opposition, infect the right with retardation. 1.00

00:25:22.000 So what do you have?

00:25:23.000 Trump wins in 2020, 2024 with suburban housewives.

00:25:28.000 Okay, get rid of them.

00:25:29.000 How do you do it?

00:25:30.000 You need a female-coated show to make all the women anti-Trump. 1.00

00:25:34.000 And that's the move they're making because of RFK Jr., this happened.

00:25:36.000 I look at all this stuff right now and I'm like, it's intentional.

00:25:39.000 It's coordinated.

00:25:40.000 The Democrats are going to win in the midterms.

00:25:42.000 Trump will be impeached.

00:25:43.000 And then who knows if JD Vance will win because Gripers don't want him.

00:25:47.000 Neocons don't want him.

00:25:49.000 So what support base will he have left?

00:25:51.000 MAGA?

00:25:52.000 Most of the MAGA people are, I shouldn't say most, but MAGA is being split between those who are now critical of Trump and prominent Trump personalities.

00:25:52.000 No.

00:26:00.000 Meaning, if I was going to make a bet on Call She or Paulie Market, I wouldn't bet on JD Vance at this point because the right's fractured.

00:26:08.000 Now, to be fair, maybe he still does win the primary, but if the Democrats can muster up a middling marginal figure, maybe Newsome, I don't know, with the fracturing on the right, how do the Republicans even win in 2028?

00:26:19.000 Charlie Kirk was going to be the VP.

00:26:21.000 That was the exclusive reporting, and they killed him.

00:26:23.000 How quickly we forget that they're actually killing us.

00:26:26.000 They're shooting us.

00:26:27.000 And we're worried about who's the popular kid on the field.

00:26:30.000 It's actually kind of concerning because we just got back into office.

00:26:33.000 It's only been a year.

00:26:34.000 We've not really recaptured any territory.

00:26:36.000 We're talking about towing the line at this point, but we've not really captured any territory.

00:26:40.000 And Republicans are very good at losing the midterms when we have a clean sweep, historically speaking.

00:26:44.000 But I think the story we're talking about here, the 2,000 federal agents, this should be larger on MAGA accounts.

00:26:49.000 This is how you win the midterms.

00:26:50.000 This is what we ask for.

00:26:51.000 We ask for these types of reforms.

00:26:53.000 We understand we have a very, very big issue with immigration.

00:26:56.000 Post this stuff.

00:26:58.000 If you want to be mad at Trump for not doing things, keep it to yourself for a little bit.

00:26:58.000 Talk about this stuff.

00:27:02.000 We'll get there.

00:27:03.000 But this is what's necessary to elevate the levels of deportations to the level that people have been saying for the past year that they want to see.

00:27:12.000 There's so many people that are so blackpilled on how many people are not getting deported.

00:27:16.000 There's not enough deportations.

00:27:17.000 If there was 20 million people that came in, they're not doing even close.

00:27:20.000 They're going to get rid of maybe a couple hundred thousand or maybe half a million.

00:27:23.000 That's not close, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:27:24.000 Which fair enough.

00:27:25.000 I understand that the numbers don't, you know, the math isn't math.

00:27:28.000 And at the same time, you need to have funding to get this stuff done.

00:27:32.000 That's what the Big Beautiful Bill had.

00:27:34.000 That was one of the reasons that Trump was saying this has to pass because we need this kind of injection of cash to be able to do the deportations that we need to.

00:27:41.000 We need to expand ICE.

00:27:43.000 Now that it's here, people are not really even paying attention.

00:27:47.000 I want to address this comment on Rumble where they said, you shut up in your following because someone you follow comed on her post.

00:27:52.000 How do you not know this?

00:27:53.000 Wrong.

00:27:54.000 Of course, I know this.

00:27:55.000 I buy ads.

00:27:56.000 I operate on all these social media platforms.

00:27:58.000 I own a multi-million dollar company with 40-plus staffers operating on all these social media platforms.

00:28:04.000 Okay.

00:28:05.000 This was weird.

00:28:06.000 A post from her showed up on my feed in my following recent on X.

00:28:11.000 No comments, no retweets.

00:28:13.000 I don't follow her.

00:28:14.000 Why?

00:28:16.000 Was it a glitch?

00:28:16.000 Honest question.

00:28:18.000 A glitch put Candace Owens in my personal feed? 0.97

00:28:20.000 I called her a very disparaging term on this show.

00:28:23.000 I don't follow her on X. There was no comment made on her post.

00:28:26.000 I have the screenshot.

00:28:27.000 Maybe I should just tweet it out and say, like, this is really weird.

00:28:30.000 Why is X pushing her into my feed?

00:28:32.000 There was no comment.

00:28:33.000 I fully understand.

00:28:34.000 If someone I follow comments another person's post, you will see their post and their comment.

00:28:38.000 This is not that case.

00:28:40.000 I genuinely believe that big tech is propping up Candace Owens because she says retarded shit and she's tricking conservatives into being retarded. 1.00

00:28:47.000 And there are a bunch of people who used to, who have been on the show several times that I've considered friends who now don't want to come on the show and they're tweeting about the Jews nonstop.

00:28:57.000 They sound like they're fucking retarded. 1.00

00:29:00.000 By all means, criticize Israel. 0.92

00:29:02.000 By all means, criticize those prominent Jews in media with agendas, but y'all sound like retards. 1.00

00:29:08.000 And if you go to a suburban housewife and you say, this is the Jews, they're going to be like, I'm just trying to buy diapers. 1.00

00:29:15.000 So why are they going to vote for Republicans?

00:29:17.000 Well, I mean, you have this issue.

00:29:17.000 Yeah.

00:29:19.000 This has been the big issue with the conservative movement is, you know, Trump won, you know, there was some misfires, these sorts of things.

00:29:26.000 Then the Biden winner.

00:29:27.000 You basically expand your camp because people love to have the feeling that they have knowledge that no one else has.

00:29:32.000 And that's what gave the right the edge for the longest time is that we were kind of sexy.

00:29:35.000 We were kind of outsiders.

00:29:36.000 We were always like, once we get in power, we're going to get these things done.

00:29:39.000 Trump 2, we're like, empower all of our guys around here.

00:29:42.000 Things are looking up.

00:29:43.000 Well, these people that like that feeling of having hidden knowledge, they're natural contrarians.

00:29:47.000 And so you've invited all these people into our ranks, these sort of natural contrarians.

00:29:51.000 Now that we're seeing stuff like this, everything is trending in the right direction.

00:29:54.000 Everything from this admin, you know, everything, but most things from this admin have been directionally correct.

00:29:59.000 It's not enough for these people because they're natural contrarians.

00:30:01.000 They're always skeptical of every single thing.

00:30:03.000 And partially that's valid.

00:30:04.000 I mean, considering what we've all gone through over the last 60 years.

00:30:07.000 But at a certain point, you need to sit back and focus.

00:30:09.000 Like, hey, guys, like you're saying, Charlie Kirk's dead.

00:30:13.000 Like, this isn't a game anymore.

00:30:14.000 This isn't like, oh, we can have these sexy, edgy views.

00:30:17.000 It's like, this is life and death.

00:30:18.000 This is, we're talking about the country you're going to leave to your children and grandchildren.

00:30:22.000 Let's tighten ranks a little bit here.

00:30:23.000 Generationally mindset.

00:30:24.000 That's how we have to be.

00:30:26.000 I think, Tim, I agree with you 100%.

00:30:28.000 I agree with you 100%.

00:30:30.000 Here's the bigger thing.

00:30:32.000 You've got all these black pilled people that talk about people like us and, oh, it's the Jews and they're bought for and all this and kind of stuff. 0.99

00:30:39.000 In my opinion, that's the new litmus test of who the real grifters and who the real traders are.

00:30:44.000 And what I mean by that is everyone that does this for a living, you know, certain things.

00:30:50.000 We had this very conversation.

00:30:52.000 I would be shocked if you guys didn't have it on the show here election night.

00:30:57.000 We all looked at each other and said, you know, if Trump wins, we're probably going to lose 25, 30% of revenue next year because in good times, advertisers don't buy.

00:31:09.000 I mean, that's just kind of how things work, right?

00:31:11.000 This is a business after all.

00:31:13.000 The same people, the same people that are now attacking Trump and all of this, how do you make up for that revenue?

00:31:19.000 How do you make up for that?

00:31:21.000 You go after the thing that causes division that people are paying for.

00:31:25.000 I've said this a million times.

00:31:26.000 It's not just Candace Owens.

00:31:29.000 Warn everyone that listens to talking heads.

00:31:32.000 We know for a fact in Congress.

00:31:34.000 We know for a fact that Youtube and everything absolutely admitted that they were censoring, shadow banning uh, deplatforming people.

00:31:45.000 But yet you have all of these conservatives that blew up during the Biden administration and are blowing up and being featured now, that are breaking every rule and all of this and back when they were on the conservative train and Pro-Trump, they still somehow were making it.

00:32:01.000 All of them are now on my watch list, every single one of them.

00:32:06.000 I don't trust a thing that any of them say, because how, how do you, how do you grow in that time if you're actually speaking the things that they claim were bad?

00:32:16.000 I'm not interested in, like you know with, like Tim Dylan and Theo Vaughn being on the Cutter train.

00:32:21.000 I am not claiming they're paid by Cutter.

00:32:23.000 I'm saying, why are these comedian guys coming out and getting on the Israel stuff?

00:32:26.000 Yeah, I just and and cutter.

00:32:29.000 And the weirdest thing in the world to me is when I go out into the regular touchgrass world and talk to people.

00:32:36.000 None of this exists.

00:32:38.000 None of none of this exists.

00:32:39.000 There's people that don't know about Venezuela.

00:32:41.000 Still, I was talking to a guy on sunday and he was like what happened?

00:32:45.000 Yeah, i'm like wow.

00:32:47.000 And then you go online and these prominent personalities are starting to align around weird things that are not in the zeitgeist.

00:32:54.000 Israel Cutter is not in the.

00:32:57.000 Okay, you go outside.

00:33:00.000 Uh, i'm driving in Loudoun County right so, so our studio which uh, we're not going back to after following the shooting I think this is clear to everybody there were people who were like Tim's full of it, he'll be back watch.

00:33:09.000 And like, no, we're, we're not, we we're shot at we, we live.

00:33:13.000 We were in West Virginia and so we're about 30 seconds away from Loudoun County.

00:33:16.000 Loudoun County is where, at the school that uh, that father's daughter uh, that young girl, was raped and the father went in and screamed.

00:33:23.000 They dragged him out.

00:33:24.000 When you would drive into Louden, there are parents outside holding up signs protesting.

00:33:29.000 We went to it's the Catoctin Skate park, look it up, and this is around that time, and we could see tables set up and parents were pamphleting.

00:33:37.000 That's real world stuff.

00:33:39.000 Yeah, masks during Covid, we would go places and see the mask signs real world stuff.

00:33:46.000 Literally nowhere anywhere do I go outside and see people going.

00:33:50.000 Israel, no cutter.

00:33:51.000 Israel is the Jews doesn't exist yeah, and so i'm sitting there be like, why are they talking about this why? 0.85

00:33:56.000 Why are podcasts focusing on this it's?

00:33:58.000 Why are prominent conservative personalities accusing Trump of being a zionist?

00:34:03.000 What the is going on?

00:34:04.000 Yeah well, yeah well, and like, Trump has these like supposed crises where the entire well, this sort of apparatus that we're describing like, comes out and they're like, this is the end of Trump.

00:34:14.000 Trump's betrayed us.

00:34:15.000 And you look at the polling and nothing changes.

00:34:17.000 Nothing budges, because the average American is just like not paying attention to these weird, like esoteric stories.

00:34:22.000 They're concerned about prices of things.

00:34:23.000 They are concerned about like is the illegal immigration topic being tackled, stuff that they can feel and see in their everyday life?

00:34:29.000 And then you see these people come out.

00:34:31.000 This is the end of Magazine.

00:34:32.000 Check the polling the next day didn't move.

00:34:34.000 Yeah, I think it's taboo.

00:34:35.000 It's salacious, it definitely gets clicks and likes and it's kind of the one conversation we haven't had israel.

00:34:39.000 I think it's fascinating to listen to, But I don't really take much of it to heart, right?

00:34:43.000 And I don't think these people really believe in it either.

00:34:45.000 I think a lot of it is just this is the thing that's keeping my family fed and keeping my car payment made.

00:34:50.000 You know, I think it's reductive to MAGA as well.

00:34:52.000 We're not, when we say, I don't want to send money to Israel, that's reductive.

00:34:56.000 What I mean to say is, I don't want to send money anywhere, anywhere.

00:34:59.000 And when we just focus on one country and say, oh, they must be anti-Israel.

00:35:03.000 No, I think we should keep all of our money.

00:35:05.000 People can't afford their groceries.

00:35:07.000 People can't afford their rent.

00:35:08.000 People have credit card debt.

00:35:09.000 No one has any money in savings.

00:35:10.000 So when I say things like that, that's what I mean.

00:35:12.000 And I think that's what MAGA means.

00:35:14.000 I think the reality is that everything is fake and gay. 1.00

00:35:16.000 That's true.

00:35:17.000 I think that what the algorithm is on YouTube and X and all these places, literally except Rumble, are intentionally allowed.

00:35:27.000 I said this about our show years ago.

00:35:29.000 People were like, Tim, why is your show doing so well?

00:35:32.000 It's a pressure release valve.

00:35:34.000 The machine state allows us to operate on YouTube because, at least for the time being, they did.

00:35:40.000 Because we were, you know, I described it like there's an island and the cliffsides are eroding.

00:35:48.000 They wipe out most conservatives and keep the moderates to be the right.

00:35:53.000 So that's why they allow us to exist because if you come out and just ban literally anybody aligned with this worldview, then you cause a shockwave.

00:36:00.000 You get riots, you get protests.

00:36:02.000 And that's literally what happened.

00:36:03.000 And they realized it wasn't working.

00:36:05.000 So they're shifting their method now and saying, no, no, we need to be the right.

00:36:08.000 We need to control them.

00:36:09.000 I think it's all fake.

00:36:11.000 I think they're intentionally propping up certain posts.

00:36:13.000 I think retweets, likes, comments, they're mostly botted and fake.

00:36:17.000 There was a viral clip where this woman on Twitch accidentally revealed that she understood how botting worked. 0.99

00:36:23.000 Basically, it was like they were doing a live stream, and then someone mentioned botting.

00:36:27.000 She goes, well, you know, it would cost you like 50K to do this.

00:36:30.000 And a guy turns and goes, how do you know how much it costs to bot?

00:36:33.000 And then she like, I just, I know people.

00:36:36.000 It's like, right.

00:36:37.000 Whether it's private or intentional, think about how a government can control its people, especially following the Trump movement.

00:36:45.000 It's possible.

00:36:46.000 I'm not saying I know for sure, but here's a hypothesis.

00:36:49.000 With the rise of the internet, they didn't expect a movement to emerge that would elect someone like Donald Trump.

00:36:53.000 They thought Trump would lose.

00:36:55.000 Hillary Clinton was very unlikable. 1.00

00:36:56.000 And with meme magic, they call it, a movement was built that actually got Trump a little bit more votes than the machine state expected.

00:37:03.000 Trump wins.

00:37:04.000 What do they do?

00:37:05.000 Accuse him of being a Russian spy, impeach him, accuse him of crimes.

00:37:09.000 Eventually, Joe Biden.

00:37:11.000 We have questions about the 2020 election.

00:37:13.000 And it's funny because I have these people tweeting at me being like, oh, no, I don't bullet election fraud.

00:37:17.000 No.

00:37:18.000 Pennsylvania changed their election rules in violation of their state constitution.

00:37:22.000 Every stop was pulled out to make sure Trump would lose.

00:37:25.000 Well, guess what?

00:37:26.000 What happened?

00:37:27.000 Thanks to the intrepid work of Turning Point USA.

00:37:30.000 And I genuinely mean of Turning Point USA.

00:37:32.000 Charlie Kirk got young people to vote conservative.

00:37:36.000 Now look at what's going on.

00:37:38.000 They killed him.

00:37:40.000 And by they, I mean interested parties who opposed what Charlie did, whoever you think it was.

00:37:45.000 He's gone.

00:37:46.000 It seems now that the realization was we have to, we are going to actually control the narratives, what's allowed.

00:37:55.000 Our show is allowed as a pressure release valve.

00:37:57.000 They ban Alex Jones.

00:37:58.000 They ban Nick Fuentes and all these people.

00:38:00.000 Now they're basically like, let's be these people.

00:38:03.000 The algorithm promotes people who are clearly breaking the rules, as we already described, and you're wondering why it is.

00:38:09.000 And the lesser personalities march in lockstep because they see someone getting 3,000 retweets posting Zejus.

00:38:15.000 But I'm going to say it again.

00:38:16.000 When I go outside and I see parents protesting that a boy was in a girl's bathroom and raped her, I see people in Louden County protesting.

00:38:25.000 I go to a poker table, which is usually the basis of my conversations if you watch this show.

00:38:30.000 Or I go to a venue or a restaurant or meet someone in person.

00:38:32.000 There are real tangible things they're talking about.

00:38:35.000 Even Venezuela is not one of them.

00:38:36.000 Foreign policy stuff is beyond people.

00:38:39.000 But Israel is certainly not there.

00:38:41.000 But for these people online, it's very clear to me, maybe I'm wrong, but it's very clear to see.

00:38:47.000 People following a political narrative that is not attached to the regular working class person is it seems intentional so that the issues in this midterm election are detached from the working class person.

00:39:00.000 Prominent conservative personalities, libertarians, conservative, or otherwise, who used to go on shows like this and say, we need cheaper gas.

00:39:08.000 We need to secure our borders.

00:39:10.000 We got to stop the fraud are now going the Jews. 1.00

00:39:14.000 And if you go to a regular working class person and say, would you help me fight the Jews? 1.00

00:39:18.000 They're going to say, huh?

00:39:20.000 And if you go to them and say, would you help me secure the border, deal with this illegal immigration so we can stop the murder and the crime, they go, yeah, I heard about that. 1.00

00:39:28.000 There are people who talk to me every day about, or our routine conversation here is about illegal immigration in Chicago, how they're giving away property and community centers to illegal immigrants, how they're giving hotels to illegal immigrants in New York City. 0.61

00:39:42.000 These things affect regular people.

00:39:44.000 Gen Z, people being like, I can't afford a home, and I'm watching them put up these hotels for illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:39:49.000 Now, what are people talking about on social media?

00:39:51.000 No, no.

00:39:52.000 The Venezuela thing was the Jews again. 1.00

00:39:54.000 And I'm like, okay, good luck winning a midterm election.

00:39:56.000 That being said, I do think we've talked about that quite a bit.

00:39:58.000 So we should jump to this next story.

00:40:00.000 We've got this from the White House, indeed.

00:40:05.000 President Donald J. Trump announces interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oil to the good old US of A. Trump truthed.

00:40:18.000 I am pleased to announce the interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oils to the U.S.

00:40:24.000 The oil will be sold at its market price, and that money will be controlled by me as president of the United States of America to ensure it is used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States.

00:40:36.000 I've asked Energy Secretary Chris Wright to execute this plan immediately.

00:40:40.000 It will be taken by storage ships and brought directly to unloading docks in the United States.

00:40:45.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.

00:40:47.000 So just a moment ago, we were talking about the weird trends and the shift in narrative.

00:40:51.000 Let me put it like this.

00:40:54.000 Let me ask this.

00:40:55.000 Why are there people who are effectively on effectively, I don't mean literally, but effectively on the side of Chinese expansion?

00:41:05.000 Honest question.

00:41:06.000 Venezuela in the 2000s seized American oil assets, stole it from us, billions of dollars, and we did nothing.

00:41:16.000 We sanctioned them.

00:41:17.000 We say that's BS.

00:41:19.000 Now you've got a combination of factors, including the narco-terrorism stuff, narco-gangs, crime, expansion, but more importantly, Iran and China operating through Venezuela, and Venezuela selling oil that we've sanctioned to Iran and China. 0.65

00:41:31.000 China has to import a lot of this oil.

00:41:33.000 Why would we just allow them to do this?

00:41:36.000 They have aggressed upon us a long time ago.

00:41:38.000 There's already conflict and they're aiding and abetting China. 0.98

00:41:41.000 I'm not suggesting it's good that we went in and snatched Maduro, but I am saying this does benefit the United States more than, say, Afghanistan or Iraq.

00:41:50.000 But there are people, once again, on the right who are blindly just in the America shouldn't do these things.

00:41:55.000 It feels more like people are marching behind fake narratives as opposed to actually having a nuanced argument about this.

00:42:02.000 So again, with the previous conversation that it seems like people have flipped on a dime, I see the exact same thing here.

00:42:10.000 There is a nuanced conversation about Venezuela.

00:42:13.000 The issues that took place with the regime change wars we launched by invading Iraq and Afghanistan are palpable, and we can discuss all of the problems that have emerged.

00:42:22.000 We're still dealing with Afghanistan. 1.00

00:42:24.000 The removal of the president of Venezuela is an entirely different story.

00:42:29.000 And we don't want it to become a regime change war.

00:42:31.000 I don't want boots on the ground, but there is nuance.

00:42:33.000 It's completely different.

00:42:34.000 There are people who are just tweeting things where they're like, it's one or zero.

00:42:39.000 That's it.

00:42:40.000 The United States should do nothing.

00:42:42.000 They should let Venezuela sell oil that they stole our assets to produce and give it to China. 0.96

00:42:47.000 Well, they're talking out of both sides of the mouth then because you can't, on one hand, say, we want someone to do something and then get mad when someone does something.

00:42:54.000 And we didn't start a war.

00:42:55.000 We took one guy.

00:42:56.000 We took one person.

00:42:57.000 And it was kind of badass how we did it too, wasn't it?

00:42:59.000 Yeah, literally.

00:43:00.000 Perfect operation, by the way.

00:43:02.000 Perfect.

00:43:03.000 Do you know what gave me hope about this administration?

00:43:05.000 Not a single leak about that operation.

00:43:07.000 Not a single leak came out.

00:43:09.000 No one knew that was happening.

00:43:10.000 It just happened.

00:43:11.000 And it gave me faith and hope that maybe, just maybe there are things happening behind the scenes.

00:43:14.000 And we don't hear about them because there are no leaks.

00:43:16.000 We actually do have a secure White House and we have a secure staff that's not going to let things go.

00:43:20.000 It gives me hope that maybe one day things will come out that make me very, very happy.

00:43:23.000 And you know what helps is ejecting all of the adversarial media from the Pentagon.

00:43:27.000 I mean, hello.

00:43:28.000 Like everyone was like, why did that happen?

00:43:30.000 It's like, because this would have been on the front page everywhere if that happened.

00:43:33.000 These people are sourcing stories.

00:43:34.000 Also, it's hilarious.

00:43:35.000 Seeing like Brian Krassen in there, who's like always chirping about Ukraine, it's like, dude, people with zero geopolitical consciousness are like jumping on the story.

00:43:44.000 Do you know how you defeat Russia? 0.86

00:43:45.000 You flood the market with cheap oil and you force them to bring their oil price down.

00:43:49.000 That will destroy their economy.

00:43:50.000 This is the worst thing to happen to Russia than any victory Ukraine has inflicted on them in the battlefield. 0.84

00:43:55.000 This is how you conduct the geopolitical affairs.

00:43:57.000 This is how you bend the arm of our political adversaries.

00:44:00.000 This is geopolitics 101.

00:44:02.000 And these people, their entire political dichotomy is just Trump or no Trump.

00:44:06.000 Like that, that's all it really comes down to.

00:44:08.000 Yeah, but my point is that on the right, it's happening now too.

00:44:11.000 Well, on the right, again, that goes back to the natural contrarians where they're just dissatisfied with anybody that's our guys in power.

00:44:16.000 I agree.

00:44:17.000 I think, based on the trends that we're seeing, the response to Trump from the right even, is that we are going back to uniparty politics.

00:44:25.000 I imagine by this time, you know, four years from now, we are going to be, it's going to be Hillary Clinton versus Mitt Romney-esque.

00:44:34.000 You're going to get 20, look, it was supposed to be Charlie Kirk and JD Vance.

00:44:40.000 That's the reporting that Kirk was going to be the VP for JD in 28.

00:44:44.000 I don't know what's going to happen in 28.

00:44:46.000 Maybe JD Vance, but the way the right's fighting, especially still lingering into a midterm year, I'm not sure that they're going to be able to muster up a coalition to win.

00:44:56.000 Sounds like 2032 is the plan to return to Hillary Clinton versus John McCain.

00:45:01.000 It just seems to me the issue is the Democrat Party, because the parties are reacting to each other.

00:45:07.000 And we were talking yesterday about Mamdani, and I was evaluating Mamdani's viability as like this truly transformational mayor in New York City, even though the transformation would be grim.

00:45:15.000 But I made the point, I was like, I think fundamentally he's going to be rage baiting the right for four years because all he's really trying to do is legitimize his ideas in the Democrat Party.

00:45:22.000 How do you do that?

00:45:23.000 Will you become the boogeyman for the right?

00:45:25.000 So that way people on the left say, wow, this Mamdani guy seems to draw the ire of Republicans more than anybody else. 0.90

00:45:30.000 And the way that people conduct politics now, because it's an outrage economy, is they just seek for how do I inflame the other side as much as possible.

00:45:37.000 It's kind of base when we do it, but you know, that something to be said about that.

00:45:40.000 So it's really tough to see a situation in which either party sort of moderates like their base actually moderates their taste.

00:45:47.000 I just don't see the appetite for that in either party.

00:45:50.000 Well, you vote for the guy the other side hates the most, right?

00:45:52.000 Yep.

00:45:53.000 So this Monami in New York, everyone voted for him because every conservative said, oh my gosh, he's a communist.

00:45:59.000 Even the president's talking about it.

00:46:00.000 And they like they showed out numbers for it.

00:46:02.000 They did.

00:46:03.000 But I mean, New York's a petri-dish.

00:46:05.000 As far as I'm concerned, it's a lost cause.

00:46:08.000 You know, I don't think they're going to recover from that.

00:46:10.000 I mean, even the conservative guy who was running, how conservative was he?

00:46:12.000 He was talking about seizing real estate and then redistributing it for low-income housing.

00:46:17.000 Yeah, well, it's even, I mean, I mean, obviously there's a different story at play here, but like even Mamdani, like there's not that much America can actually do in New York City.

00:46:23.000 It's a city council-driven government.

00:46:26.000 So, what's really going to be the most consequential result of Mamdani's sort of reign, so to speak, is just like vape shop, more vape shops opening and just like the decline continuing.

00:46:34.000 Like, I don't think he's going to actually establish this Maoist state in New York.

00:46:39.000 What he's doing is actually worse.

00:46:40.000 Because it's one thing, if it's like concentrated to New York City, New York City falls apart, and everyone in this country goes, wow, we can't do that.

00:46:46.000 We can't repeat that.

00:46:47.000 What's happening is far worse.

00:46:48.000 He's going to be ineffective as mayor, and he's going to legitimize his ideas in the Democrat Party.

00:46:52.000 And now, the entire Democrat Party is going to be Mamdani-style politics. 0.85

00:46:56.000 That's far worse.

00:46:57.000 It'd be much better if it was just contained in New York City.

00:46:59.000 That would be optimal, but that's just not what's going to happen.

00:47:02.000 He's just going to continue to rage bait.

00:47:03.000 He's going to continue to say these really inflammatory things that we, as commentators, have no choice but to jump on because you've got to correct the record.

00:47:10.000 And it's just going, it's just going to legitimize his philosophy.

00:47:13.000 I think so.

00:47:13.000 I mean, there's a lot of them in office now, too.

00:47:15.000 I mean, you've got EOC, you've got a handful of people that have just come out and said, yes, communism is there.

00:47:20.000 Yeah.

00:47:20.000 I mean, and that's the thing.

00:47:22.000 At the end of the day, even if they don't say it's communism, they're repeating lines that Marx used.

00:47:29.000 All the policies or all the policies that have destroyed socialist countries around the world.

00:47:35.000 Doesn't matter what society it was before the socialists got in power.

00:47:40.000 It's the same result.

00:47:41.000 The capital leaves because nothing is holding it there.

00:47:46.000 People with money leave.

00:47:47.000 And then the tax base dries up.

00:47:50.000 They start taxing the middle class or expropriating the property of the middle class, which is what they're hoping to do in the United States. 0.86

00:47:58.000 It's just a bad thing that the Democrats have allowed for this kind of ideology to infest them.

00:48:06.000 It used to be where you had Democrats that were fairly conservative or would agree with Republicans.

00:48:12.000 Those days are over.

00:48:13.000 That is gone.

00:48:14.000 And now you're going to see more and more politicians that are basically the far left.

00:48:19.000 I personally think that's somewhat due to the fact that the left is more internationally informed now because of the internet, right?

00:48:27.000 Like Democrats in the U.S., it used to be Democrats would get their ideas from other Democrats and stuff.

00:48:32.000 Nowadays, you get people on the internet that are getting basically fed socialist slop from other countries and stuff.

00:48:39.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:48:40.000 I mean, this is the thing about social media that causes problems.

00:48:43.000 I was talking about on the show today.

00:48:46.000 We are developing sort of this international consciousness, but it's really only occurring on the left.

00:48:50.000 And this is why Antifa is increasingly effective.

00:48:52.000 Like in Berlin, they had an attack, I believe it was like last night, our time, where they effectively took out the entire power grid in Berlin.

00:48:58.000 It was an Antifa cell.

00:49:00.000 And the issue is like you can't contain these things anymore.

00:49:02.000 Like that's not just something that happens in Germany.

00:49:04.000 That's happening globally.

00:49:05.000 That's why when we classified Antifa as an FTO, that wasn't just like a sleight of hand trick so we could go after them.

00:49:10.000 It was like, no, they genuinely are collaborating over borders.

00:49:14.000 And that's what's so terrifying.

00:49:16.000 And then this point with Memdani, it's a really good point that needs to be made.

00:49:20.000 Is we have this tendency in America to just want to go back to like the 90s.

00:49:23.000 Like we're like, oh, that's when things are perfect in the 90s or 80s.

00:49:26.000 But the thing that you have to do, if you're really trying to restore America, if you're trying to make America great again, you have to ratchet it all the way back because you can't ratchet liberalism back to an earlier stage and then just freeze it there and hope it doesn't develop into this.

00:49:38.000 Every like 10 times out of 10, it's going to result in Memdani because that's how political philosophy works.

00:49:43.000 You have to keep moving the football down the field in order if you have like a sort of vision for what you want the country to be.

00:49:48.000 And it's just going to naturally turn into this every single time.

00:49:50.000 Like you can't just freeze a political ideology in place.

00:49:53.000 It's always going to continue to develop along the way.

00:49:54.000 You'll never reach equilibrium.

00:49:55.000 It's always a pendulum.

00:49:56.000 Exactly.

00:49:57.000 Yeah.

00:49:58.000 Well, I don't see the policies that the Democrats are pushing being popular with the older people in the United States, but I do see a lot of energy in the young people.

00:50:09.000 Yeah, well, yeah.

00:50:10.000 Well, and it's exactly as they, I mean, because they've been seeking to overhaul the demographic of the United States, and there's no question about that.

00:50:16.000 Biden was pretty open about that.

00:50:18.000 And so it's just going to get worse as the older population dies off because, again, the younger you get, the less American it gets.

00:50:24.000 Like it's more and more people who are foreign-born or that, you know, like their children are foreign-born and typically children of foreign-born politics reflect their parents.

00:50:31.000 So it's like the Democrats have set this play up.

00:50:34.000 They set this up 60 years ago, like with the Hart Seller Act.

00:50:36.000 Like this has been in development for a very long time, is to make Republicans just politically unviable as an institution.

00:50:43.000 And so that's what like, that's kind of the problem.

00:50:45.000 I don't think people realize like there was an hourglass that was turned over.

00:50:50.000 And in many ways, we kind of ran out of time already.

00:50:52.000 Trump's sort of brought denaturalization to the table.

00:50:55.000 It's like, okay, we might actually be able to undo some of this damage, but it's like, dude, this has been a masterful play by the Democrats.

00:51:01.000 They're not idiots.

00:51:02.000 Some of their actual politicians are idiots, but a lot of these guys are careful.

00:51:06.000 They know what they want.

00:51:06.000 They're prudent.

00:51:07.000 And in many ways, they want it more than we do.

00:51:09.000 Well, this is what I'm saying.

00:51:10.000 We have to be generation mindset.

00:51:11.000 If we can admit and say and believe that it's taken 60 years of them to get here, they've been in charge a very long time.

00:51:16.000 We're not going to win this with one presidency or at minimum one year.

00:51:20.000 It's going to take a very long time to win this game.

00:51:22.000 It's why raising kids, having kids is the most important thing we can do.

00:51:25.000 And Phil's doing a great job.

00:51:27.000 Working on it.

00:51:27.000 He's now on the game.

00:51:29.000 Let's jump to this story, ladies and gentlemen.

00:51:31.000 It is a holiday.

00:51:32.000 It's January 6th.

00:51:33.000 And the Democrats are holding a candlelight vigil.

00:51:36.000 I kid you not.

00:51:37.000 I don't understand it.

00:51:39.000 This is not a joke.

00:51:40.000 Democratic lawmakers on the fifth anniversary of January 6th attack on U.S. Capitol.

00:51:46.000 Why are they holding candles?

00:51:48.000 Ashley Babbitt.

00:51:50.000 But you know that's not really why.

00:51:52.000 We went out the Senate door, made a right turn, opened another door, and we were within 20 feet of those rioters, of those insurrectionists.

00:52:00.000 One of them looked at me and said, there he is, get him.

00:52:05.000 This is the word.

00:52:06.000 Patriot.

00:52:07.000 Of my grave police officers, led by Mike Blazinski, I wasn't hurt.

00:52:13.000 That was actually me.

00:52:14.000 I was asking for grilling tips.

00:52:17.000 Let's never mince words about what happened again.

00:52:19.000 Those who try to lie about it, those who try to make up myths about it.

00:52:26.000 I'm just not interested in listening to what everybody's talking about.

00:52:28.000 Let's talk about a myth that's still perpetuated.

00:52:30.000 I have to correct people in real time who are very high-level influencers, conservative influencers.

00:52:34.000 I didn't steal the lectern.

00:52:36.000 I'm still having that five years from now.

00:52:38.000 I just got my first community note this year.

00:52:39.000 People still believe I actually took that thing home.

00:52:41.000 The community note saying you didn't?

00:52:43.000 You can ask Rock now if Rock now says I moved it.

00:52:43.000 Yes.

00:52:47.000 Rock said I moved it, didn't take it.

00:52:48.000 Right.

00:52:49.000 He picked it up and moved it and put it down.

00:52:50.000 Yeah.

00:52:51.000 Relocation.

00:52:52.000 Yep.

00:52:52.000 Just unlicensed furniture moving.

00:52:54.000 Via games relocation.

00:52:55.000 You know, guys, this video of Chuck Schumer, I walked out the door and he said, there he is, get him.

00:53:01.000 I'm just, I'm just, I'm so over it.

00:53:02.000 I'm just, I'm completely over it.

00:53:04.000 I don't care about any of this.

00:53:08.000 It is a bunch of fake people saying fake shit nonstop all the time.

00:53:16.000 I, you know, I've been over the holiday break.

00:53:20.000 I talked to a lot of people who have been expressing that it's just the same story every day.

00:53:26.000 Nothing's changing.

00:53:27.000 Now, don't get me wrong, Trump has done some stuff, but it feels like it's just, you know, again, with all due respect to Dan Vangino, it's disappointing.

00:53:36.000 If not Dan, then who we thought he was going to go in, and then he comes out and he's like, yeah, nothing, we can't do anything.

00:53:40.000 Nothing is here.

00:53:41.000 Like, Epstein killed himself.

00:53:42.000 So everybody's just continually disappointed.

00:53:45.000 Nothing ever happens, right?

00:53:48.000 Don't get me wrong, like a lot of happenings have happened in the past couple of months.

00:53:52.000 And over the past year, there's been a lot happening.

00:53:54.000 But in the political space, the day-to-day, it is mind-numbing to listen to the Democrats.

00:53:59.000 A candlelight vigil?

00:54:00.000 It's been five years.

00:54:01.000 We know you're lying.

00:54:03.000 Why are we bothering with this?

00:54:05.000 Why are these people still in office?

00:54:05.000 I don't get it.

00:54:07.000 What is happening?

00:54:08.000 Yeah, I mean, to some degree, like, it's kind of a good thing if politics gets boring.

00:54:12.000 Like, C-SPAN should be boring to watch.

00:54:14.000 Like, that's historically how politics operated is for wonks.

00:54:17.000 They had like a slur.

00:54:18.000 We called them wonks because it's like, you guys are nerds.

00:54:21.000 And if things go well with the Trump administration, I mean, if this trajectory continues into a potentially advanced presidency, hopefully politics is back to just being like a snooze fest and people can go back to their lives.

00:54:33.000 I mean, that's been the big issue.

00:54:34.000 That's been the big issue.

00:54:35.000 That's been the big issue with why we're seeing so much slop in the political zeitgeist is because it's not boring.

00:54:42.000 And it's like, again, what we were talking about earlier, it's like, no, we're talking about life and death.

00:54:45.000 We're talking about the country we're going to leave to our kids, these sorts of things.

00:54:48.000 Like, we should take this a little bit more seriously.

00:54:51.000 People, but people love the sensational.

00:54:53.000 So it's like, maybe like returning the boring.

00:54:53.000 They love that.

00:54:56.000 I know it's bad for us, bad for business, but like there's something to that.

00:54:59.000 But the only thing about that, though, is it was, it's a double-edged sword, right?

00:55:03.000 And it really kind of goes to your point earlier.

00:55:06.000 It's always going to be a football kick down further and further and further.

00:55:10.000 If we go back to that, it's going to lead to what has got us in the situation that we're in in the first place.

00:55:18.000 Oh, you just vote Republican down the ticket.

00:55:20.000 You have no idea, or Democrat down the ticket.

00:55:23.000 You have no idea what's going on.

00:55:24.000 You couldn't even name your congressman or woman.

00:55:27.000 You have no idea what's happening.

00:55:30.000 And then that leads to the decades of decades of decades of decades of corruption that we're now trying to fight against.

00:55:39.000 That's what I said.

00:55:40.000 We did a very bad job as talking heads, influencers, creators, whatever you want to call us.

00:55:45.000 We did a really bad job, myself included, of the American people understanding that one election is not going to make America utopia.

00:55:56.000 It's not going to happen.

00:55:57.000 You're talking about at least 50 years of just horrible, horrific corruption all day, every day.

00:56:08.000 But with everyone being interested in what's going on and everybody getting to the bottom of what's happening, eventually you're going to get to this point where nobody can do it well enough.

00:56:20.000 And then the question goes, well, what happens then?

00:56:23.000 What happens with all of the people, all of America, or enough of them at least that are like, no one's going to do what we need to do?

00:56:32.000 Does that lead to government overthrow?

00:56:35.000 What is that?

00:56:36.000 Where does that lead?

00:56:37.000 And so the truth is, we really, what we're all debating right now and where the American people find themselves and why you feel this thing going on that you don't really know what you're feeling is we're in the middle of both of those spectrums right this second.

00:56:52.000 Well, but either side of those spectrums, either way, you're going to get gridlock because it's like, right.

00:56:52.000 Right.

00:56:57.000 A, everyone's asleep at the wheel.

00:56:58.000 Something has to give.

00:56:59.000 Something has to give at some point.

00:56:59.000 Yeah.

00:57:00.000 And that's, that's why the Trump, like the Trump, the MAGA movement has been really like a veil lifted in many ways.

00:57:05.000 Because like you had the 90s, like Francis Fukuyama coming out and saying, like, we've reached the end of history.

00:57:09.000 Like social democracy, social liberalism is the final stage of government.

00:57:13.000 Like we're not going to progress past this.

00:57:15.000 This is the natural conclusion of political philosophy.

00:57:17.000 We're at the last man, these sorts of things.

00:57:19.000 And I think everyone kind of subliminally thought that.

00:57:21.000 I think everyone across the West was like, yeah, that's probably correct.

00:57:25.000 And then Brexit happens and then Trump happens.

00:57:28.000 Everyone sits back and goes, oh, no, no, no, history is still unfolding.

00:57:32.000 And then it's been dramatic.

00:57:33.000 I mean, these last eight years have been like dramatic.

00:57:35.000 I mean, our grandchildren are going to read about this in the history books.

00:57:38.000 But it's gotten to the point now where everyone has takes.

00:57:41.000 Everyone has a political philosophy.

00:57:43.000 Everyone has different varying goals.

00:57:45.000 And now that the big tent, because we're not in an election cycle, is kind of unraveling a little bit.

00:57:49.000 We're going to see now, again, gridlock.

00:57:51.000 We have gridlock again.

00:57:52.000 Well, I somewhat agree with you, but we said grandchildren.

00:57:56.000 You mean more like AI robot facsimile grandchildren?

00:58:00.000 What I'm going for, yeah.

00:58:01.000 Where no one's having kids.

00:58:03.000 Actually, you know, it does seem like people are having kids like crazy right now.

00:58:06.000 Yeah.

00:58:07.000 At least in our sphere.

00:58:08.000 Maybe because we are addressing it and saying like the daycares are full.

00:58:12.000 Yeah, the daycares are full.

00:58:14.000 Have you seen the demographic projections in Pennsylvania where by the end of the century?

00:58:18.000 All Muslim? 0.91

00:58:19.000 No, no, no.

00:58:19.000 By the end of the century, 20% of Pennsylvania, no, by 2100, 20% of Pennsylvania will be Amish.

00:58:25.000 So, like, really?

00:58:26.000 Yeah, you're going to have this situation.

00:58:28.000 Again, Brooklyn, by like 20%.

00:58:30.000 There's like a lot of projections by 2070 at this trajectory, things could change.

00:58:34.000 Brooklyn will be as red as Alabama because the Hasidics have such a high birth rate. 1.00

00:58:38.000 So you know what?

00:58:39.000 We're going into a world where it's like a lot of people are going to self-filter out of the gene pool and these uber-religious communities are going to dominate. 0.87

00:58:46.000 That's why the Democrats want the immigration so much.

00:58:49.000 That's part of it.

00:58:50.000 Yeah, but even the immigrants, look across the world. 0.99

00:58:52.000 Birth rates are falling even in the third world.

00:58:53.000 And A, that's blowing up all of our economic models.

00:58:55.000 But B, you're going to have the situation where in Pennsylvania, like, you're going to play ball with the Amish. 0.94

00:58:59.000 We kind of saw that in the last election.

00:59:00.000 I mean, the Amish did put their thumb on the scales and in many ways led to Trump's victory. 0.89

00:59:04.000 Thank you, Scott Pressler.

00:59:06.000 Yes, and that's going to continue.

00:59:07.000 Like, there's the timeline that we're entering makes Fukuyamala look like the biggest idiot on planet Earth because it's like there's so many moving parts now.

00:59:15.000 No disrespect to Fuyama.

00:59:16.000 Well, there's so many moving parts now that it's like, you have to start considering these really sensational things because they're real.

00:59:22.000 They're here.

00:59:23.000 Remember, what was that story about the guy at the patent office in the 1890s said everything that can be invented has been invented?

00:59:30.000 Do you remember that?

00:59:31.000 What was that all about?

00:59:32.000 I don't know who said that, but that's obvious.

00:59:34.000 Yeah.

00:59:35.000 What a swing in a myth.

00:59:36.000 Oh, where they call World War I the Great Wars, the war and all wars.

00:59:40.000 That's something that happens in history regularly.

00:59:43.000 People think, oh, well, this is it.

00:59:45.000 We're at the apex of human civilization.

00:59:48.000 We're at the apex of whatever topics, whatever expert thinks that they have expertise on.

00:59:53.000 And then, you know, something happens and there's a massive change.

00:59:59.000 It is apocryphal.

01:00:01.000 This is Charles Holland Dewell.

01:00:05.000 And they said that he's widely known for a statement that he purportedly made during his time as U.S. Commissioner of Patents.

01:00:11.000 Everything that can be invented has been invented.

01:00:13.000 However, it's been debunked as apocryphal by librarian Samuel Sass, who tries to quote back to a 1981 book called A Book of Facts and Fallacies.

01:00:21.000 Okay, well, okay, we'll correct the record for this guy.

01:00:24.000 He never said that stupid thing.

01:00:26.000 So for most people.

01:00:27.000 My kids invent new ways to break things all the time.

01:00:29.000 I'm shocked on it.

01:00:30.000 Yeah, they do invent new ways to break things all the time.

01:00:32.000 They just stare at the jar and it levitates and then shatters.

01:00:35.000 I'm on my third toilet seat upstairs in their bathroom, and I have no idea what is going on.

01:00:39.000 And they have a pretty clean diet, so I'm not sure what accounts for it.

01:00:43.000 To be fair, to steel man the idea that this was like the end of politics, is if you look at the post-war consensus, that was pretty rigid.

01:00:50.000 It did feel like that's not going anywhere.

01:00:53.000 It did in many ways feel like, what are we going to do?

01:00:55.000 We're going to have Mitt Romney versus Obama for the rest of our lives.

01:00:57.000 And Trump, the brick through the window, is legitimately the most consequential.

01:01:02.000 That ride down the escalator is the most consequential moment and probably in our lifetimes is going to be in our lifetimes.

01:01:07.000 You know, I will say this.

01:01:08.000 Like, I think we had this political decade.

01:01:12.000 If you go back to like, and it's caused by the economic collapse, which shocked a lot of people, they began asking why it was they couldn't afford to live anymore.

01:01:20.000 Millennials started asking why they couldn't afford to live, have families, buy houses.

01:01:23.000 Gen Z is in a similar spot.

01:01:24.000 But I think Gen Z is very nihilistic. 1.00

01:01:28.000 So whereas millennials became activists, Gen Z is like, y'all are stupid. 0.86

01:01:32.000 Who cares?

01:01:33.000 And they're largely just like detaching.

01:01:36.000 And man, you look at the current trends among Gen Z and what people are starting to focus on, sports betting.

01:01:42.000 I think Gen Z is basically just like, we literally don't care anymore. 0.89

01:01:46.000 So, you know, my point is, like, I remember when I first started making content during Occupy Wall Street, there was this bubbling up of politics in the mainstream.

01:01:55.000 People were interested in it.

01:01:56.000 But I remember when I was younger, nobody cared.

01:01:58.000 Sure, there was protests and stuff, but this was not the popular thing that everyone was focused on.

01:02:03.000 I think we're probably in the back end of this political swing.

01:02:07.000 And I'm wondering if the next few years politics becomes esoteric, just I don't know, droll garbage that most people don't care about, and political channels become substantially smaller with less money.

01:02:23.000 Yeah, I think Zoomers, like 90% of Zoomers ballpark, are either nihilists or political extremists. 1.00

01:02:29.000 Like that's just the reality of the situation.

01:02:31.000 And I mean, that's just anecdotes, but I think this is reflected in polling.

01:02:34.000 I think with the George Floyd riots, a lot of us expected, man, people are going to lose their minds.

01:02:39.000 And like you said, some of these Gen Z they're split between extremists and nihilists. 1.00

01:02:43.000 But I think for a lot of people, they're going to be like, yeah, I don't care.

01:02:46.000 If you grew up at a time where you saw all of these crises and all these political conflicts and Trump and impeachment and Brisma and all these things, and then nothing happened, and you've got these Gen Z people saying nothing ever happens, why are they going to turn the TV on and pay attention? 0.93

01:02:59.000 Why are they going to turn on a podcast and pay attention?

01:03:01.000 They're going to go sports bet.

01:03:02.000 Well, yeah, the only time they're going to turn on the TV and pay attention is when they see things like the inflation that we've seen.

01:03:06.000 Like it turns into.

01:03:07.000 I don't think so.

01:03:08.000 Well, it turns into kitchen table issues.

01:03:11.000 They don't own a kitchen table.

01:03:12.000 Well, they can't make their Klarna payments and they're going to be like, oh, you know. 1.00

01:03:18.000 Couldn't from the get goes my point.

01:03:20.000 For millennials, I'm in my 20s and everything starts going bad, but I was already in a bad spot as it was.

01:03:26.000 Gen X largely felt this much more than everyone else.

01:03:30.000 Boomers survived much better. 1.00

01:03:31.000 But for Gen Z that was born into a world of nothing. 1.00

01:03:35.000 Yeah, they can't feel lost they've never experienced it.

01:03:37.000 Exactly.

01:03:38.000 So they grow up hearing about all these problems in politics and they're like, maybe there's a way to deal with this.

01:03:44.000 I hear what you're saying.

01:03:45.000 But finally, they're like 25 and they're going, bro, you've been saying the same thing for 15 years.

01:03:49.000 Okay, I'm going to go bet on the Steelers game.

01:03:52.000 Yeah.

01:03:52.000 You want to change and break the cycle?

01:03:54.000 Arrest anyone on that screen.

01:03:55.000 Anyone.

01:03:56.000 Anyone.

01:03:57.000 Show me that it's real.

01:03:57.000 Show me that the reason I vote up is because this is real.

01:03:59.000 Show me the reason I went to prison is because I was right.

01:04:02.000 Show me that America is still worth saving.

01:04:03.000 But this is why I'm not sure if you're not going to be able to do it.

01:04:06.000 And it's not just Dan.

01:04:06.000 Yeah.

01:04:07.000 I mean, it's cash too, but Dan's leaving now and they're making fun of him.

01:04:10.000 I think the reality is you can't stop the machine.

01:04:14.000 I said this of Obama.

01:04:15.000 I said this of every president.

01:04:16.000 I've been saying it for decades.

01:04:18.000 You get elected.

01:04:20.000 You say, when I get in office, I'm going to do this thing.

01:04:23.000 You get in, and then you can't for a million and one reasons.

01:04:26.000 And it's not always that there's an evil deep state cabal that's like, we'll kill you if you do.

01:04:31.000 It's like you get in office and you say, okay, guys, I want to deal with this border crisis.

01:04:37.000 And they go, well, here's the thing.

01:04:39.000 If we don't have the illegal immigrants, look at all these areas of the country where population decline is setting in and we don't have low-skilled labor to replace the young people who are aging out. 0.94

01:04:48.000 That's the Democrat worldview.

01:04:49.000 Trump, the reason they hate him is because he goes, huh, I don't care.

01:04:54.000 Shut the border down.

01:04:55.000 And they're like, but don't you understand you're knocking pegs out from the machine?

01:04:58.000 He's like, I don't care.

01:04:59.000 We can't keep doing the same thing.

01:05:01.000 And that's why people liked what Trump was doing.

01:05:03.000 But basically what I'm saying as it pertains to Dan Bongino, my assumption would be he goes in and says, I want to do something here.

01:05:11.000 You know what I genuinely think happened?

01:05:12.000 The reason the Epstein list doesn't come out is because Saudis are on it. 1.00

01:05:15.000 And Trump said, guys, don't screw up the petrodollar negotiations.

01:05:20.000 I think Epstein files come out.

01:05:22.000 We're going to lose this deal.

01:05:23.000 China's going to win. 1.00

01:05:23.000 I think it all comes down to money. 1.00

01:05:25.000 It all comes down to money.

01:05:26.000 I mean, if we assume the, okay, we can list some names on the list, right?

01:05:30.000 And let's say it's a couple of big CEOs of publicly traded companies.

01:05:34.000 You start arresting a handful of those people.

01:05:36.000 You will crash markets.

01:05:38.000 They employ hundreds of thousands of people.

01:05:39.000 I think everything comes down to that.

01:05:40.000 The reason they can't share is because it would destabilize our entire economy.

01:05:43.000 And so you're told, and again, it's hypothetical, I don't know for sure, but Dan Bongino, a guy like him, he gets in and he goes, we got to put this list out.

01:05:51.000 And they go, see these three guys on the list?

01:05:53.000 If they get arrested, we're going to lose an oil contract.

01:05:57.000 We're going to lose an oil pipeline.

01:05:58.000 And we're going to see a 17% collapse of the U.S. stock market because this person holds X amount of equities with BlackRock and this.

01:06:07.000 And then it's like crap.

01:06:10.000 And so, for a lot of people, they've said to us, I don't care what the ramifications are.

01:06:14.000 I don't care if this economy tanks because of it.

01:06:16.000 I don't care if it starts a war.

01:06:18.000 Do it.

01:06:19.000 And I'm not saying that's wrong.

01:06:21.000 Don't protect these people and let them get away with it.

01:06:21.000 I get it.

01:06:23.000 But what happens when Donald Trump personally says to you, I will not be the president that watches the union collapse.

01:06:27.000 Please don't do this.

01:06:28.000 Again, not saying this is actually what happened, but I'm saying it's a hypothetical of how the machine works.

01:06:33.000 What do you do when you say to everybody, I'm going to expose the Epstein list?

01:06:38.000 You get in, and then the president, who you know and trust, says, Here's what will happen if you do.

01:06:44.000 And then he hands you the button and says, You're allowed to press it if you want.

01:06:48.000 Just know, here's all the collateral damage the U.S. will face because of it.

01:06:52.000 Do you press the button?

01:06:53.000 I know a lot of people would say yes.

01:06:55.000 A lot of people would say no.

01:06:56.000 I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do.

01:06:57.000 I'm pointing out these are the scenarios faced by people who try and get into politics.

01:07:01.000 The world is not so simple and cut and dry.

01:07:03.000 No, it is not so easy to just say, we shouldn't.

01:07:07.000 Like people think that the Venezuela move against Maduro was an easy yes or no.

01:07:12.000 No, it wasn't.

01:07:14.000 It's not the same thing as Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:07:14.000 I say I'm lukewarm on it.

01:07:16.000 That was a debacle for sure.

01:07:17.000 Mistakes were made, horrible mistakes.

01:07:20.000 But the people were just like, the U.S. should never, for any reason, intervene in either country.

01:07:23.000 I'm like, that's an absolutism.

01:07:24.000 It's retarded. 1.00

01:07:25.000 Yeah, that's ridiculous.

01:07:26.000 There are circumstances that will arise.

01:07:28.000 Sometimes you do.

01:07:29.000 We typically want to avoid it.

01:07:30.000 That's why I say I'm lukewarm on it.

01:07:32.000 If, like with the Iran thing, I said, no, we should not be bombing Iran.

01:07:36.000 You will destabilize this region.

01:07:38.000 And we narrowly escaped.

01:07:39.000 And I say, okay, we got out of that one.

01:07:41.000 I'm not a fan of this stuff because the unknowns.

01:07:44.000 But I think you can reduce it down to a more personal experience so the average person can better understand, right?

01:07:53.000 And I described it the other day: like, your neighbor is selling drugs.

01:07:57.000 Do you think, you know, let's say your neighbor is selling pot.

01:08:01.000 Or no, let's lighten the load.

01:08:03.000 Your neighbor has parties every night.

01:08:03.000 Let's lighten the load.

01:08:05.000 Lots of booze.

01:08:06.000 People are drunk.

01:08:08.000 I don't mind if people are drinking and getting drunk and having parties.

01:08:10.000 I'm not the party police.

01:08:12.000 I'm not going to shut people down who want to have a good time.

01:08:14.000 Now there's beer cans all over the lawn.

01:08:16.000 They're spreading out in the street in front of my house.

01:08:19.000 I got to go clean these things up.

01:08:21.000 Okay, well, I'm going to go to my neighbor's house and I'm going to knock on the door and I'm going to be like, hey, guy, look, like the beer.

01:08:24.000 He's like, hey, man, I'm not on your property.

01:08:25.000 It's not my problem.

01:08:26.000 It's your problem.

01:08:27.000 You deal with it.

01:08:28.000 At a certain point, it's not so simple to just say, I don't want to infringe on someone else's right to drink.

01:08:33.000 At a certain point, there's an infringement that must be remedied.

01:08:36.000 Will you take action to benefit yourself over someone who is directly or indirectly aggressing upon you?

01:08:42.000 Or are you going to just let it keep happening?

01:08:44.000 It's not always so easy.

01:08:46.000 But I think the challenging issue that most people don't want to recognize is: let's try this.

01:08:53.000 Let me try a scenario for you guys.

01:08:55.000 So I want to play this morality game.

01:09:00.000 Mr. Electernan, do you work anywhere right now?

01:09:03.000 Or what are you working on?

01:09:05.000 I just finished my book and I am running a race for county commissioner in Manatee County.

01:09:08.000 You can go to my website and sign up for email list.

01:09:10.000 It is voteadamjohnson.com.

01:09:12.000 I think it's probably hard to do a hypothetical with people who are clearly running their own businesses or running for office.

01:09:18.000 But the hypothetical I want to present is you discover that your boss, you work for a great company.

01:09:22.000 It's hypothetical.

01:09:23.000 You work for a company and you're in computer sales.

01:09:27.000 And you discover that your boss has been embezzling money from the company.

01:09:32.000 I blackmail him.

01:09:36.000 If you out him for doing this, you will lose your job and your company closes.

01:09:43.000 You have no guarantee you'll have money to feed your children.

01:09:46.000 Do you expose the manager who's embezzling funds?

01:09:50.000 No, I'd have to make sure I have another job secure first because I wouldn't want to work with someone who works like that.

01:09:55.000 There's a lot of questions in morality like if you had a document that would expose a billionaire for being a pedophile.

01:10:03.000 And then as you're like, I'm going to publish this, a man slides a picture of your daughter through a sniper, through a scope, saying the moment you press this button, she dies.

01:10:14.000 Do you publish the document?

01:10:16.000 Nope, I love my children.

01:10:17.000 These are the challenges that people act like don't exist, right?

01:10:23.000 Is it the right thing to do to expose a corrupt manager who's stealing money from the company?

01:10:28.000 Well, the blowback could destroy the company and you'll be out of work and you don't know how you'll get a paycheck to feed your kids.

01:10:33.000 I think a lot of people are going to be like, then I wouldn't expose them.

01:10:36.000 So you'd let a guy steal money, a fraudster, a criminal rip off a company.

01:10:41.000 Well, I don't want my kids to go hungry.

01:10:43.000 I get these comments all the time on this show.

01:10:45.000 I am not telling anybody what is right or what is wrong.

01:10:47.000 It is a very serious challenge for people.

01:10:49.000 You want to get super hypothetical.

01:10:51.000 Dan Bongino goes, I got the Epstein list.

01:10:51.000 Sure.

01:10:53.000 I'm going to publish it.

01:10:54.000 And then a guy in a suit says, here's a picture of your daughter through a scope, right?

01:10:57.000 I'm not saying that literally happened, but what do you do in geopolitics in the circumstances?

01:11:02.000 Well, and then the other, like outside of hypotheticals, the other realities of the American people is I've said this on my show all the time.

01:11:13.000 We've talked about states that are lost causes.

01:11:15.000 We've talked about triaging, you know, getting out of certain states and going fortifying actual states that are winnable and then we never have to worry about things again.

01:11:26.000 And people will tell me, well, Graham, I can't just move.

01:11:30.000 Like it's not that simple, but you want to publish a list that hypothetically could collapse the entire American system, a government, economic system, and things like that.

01:11:43.000 You're fine with that.

01:11:45.000 But how are you going to have a job?

01:11:47.000 How are you going to do this if that happens?

01:11:49.000 We should do that.

01:11:49.000 You know, we got to do videos like this.

01:11:51.000 We should totally do this video.

01:11:52.000 We should do videos where we bring people in for like, you know, like a social experiment and we, you know, we give them a button.

01:12:00.000 And it's like, if you press this button, you'll receive $1,000.

01:12:04.000 And we will mercilessly beat this puppy.

01:12:07.000 You know, like, if they'd have hit the button before you get to the bottom of the biology.

01:12:11.000 He will press that button.

01:12:12.000 He will absolutely press that button.

01:12:14.000 We keep actually sampling for Haitians and they're just spitting. 1.00

01:12:17.000 And they're like, do I get to eat the dog up?

01:12:19.000 Can I wait?

01:12:19.000 No, don't do it away.

01:12:20.000 No.

01:12:21.000 But, you know, it would be interesting to put people in situations where it's a rock in a hard place.

01:12:26.000 But, you know, it shouldn't be with direct benefit to themselves.

01:12:29.000 It would be like, there's a, you know, there is a man right now.

01:12:32.000 He is a known criminal and he's beaten and raped women.

01:12:36.000 And you can release this information.

01:12:38.000 It will expose him and he will go to prison.

01:12:41.000 It will also, these 10 people work for his company will lose their jobs and their families will go without food.

01:12:49.000 Like, how do you decide?

01:12:51.000 And I think most people are going to be like, expose him.

01:12:53.000 You know what I mean?

01:12:54.000 It's almost like a trolley problem.

01:12:55.000 Yeah.

01:12:56.000 These things exist in every facet of government and every industry.

01:12:59.000 But we're dealing with this one-dimensional comic book-esque political space where people are like, if it is not zero sum, I'm mad at you.

01:13:08.000 You're a bad guy.

01:13:10.000 Well, rhetoric is very easy.

01:13:11.000 You can go online.

01:13:12.000 You can post things.

01:13:13.000 The common one I've always heard is if we can't be a nation that arrests pedophiles, we don't deserve to be a nation.

01:13:18.000 And it's a great sentiment.

01:13:19.000 And I believe in that sentiment.

01:13:20.000 I really do.

01:13:21.000 If we're protecting pedophiles, that's not good for us.

01:13:23.000 But what can we actually do about it?

01:13:26.000 I'm just a guy, but talk about it, right?

01:13:28.000 And I think the reason we're a lot of people are mad at Cash, mad at Bondi, mad at Dan, is because they are the people we send to go do these things.

01:13:35.000 But it can't just be on one person that takes all the responsibility for it.

01:13:39.000 I understand it's their job, but it's also our job to remain to stay vocal, to keep talking about these things.

01:13:44.000 You know, I don't believe anybody.

01:13:46.000 I'm sorry.

01:13:46.000 Like, I know there are some people who stand true.

01:13:49.000 And if you're out there, you know who you are.

01:13:51.000 But let's be real.

01:13:53.000 If the release of the Epstein documents, and I'm not saying this is absolute, because I know the responsibility is going to be like, but it's not true to me.

01:13:58.000 No, I'm saying hypothetically, if the release of the Epstein documents did implicate enough prominent people from foreign governments to corporations that the U.S. economy would destabilize, knocking us down 80%, would you release the documents?

01:14:15.000 I guarantee you most people are going to be like, of course I would.

01:14:17.000 Then actually offer them up what that means.

01:14:20.000 You'll lose your home.

01:14:21.000 You'll have no food.

01:14:23.000 Milk will cost $50.

01:14:24.000 Healthcare is gone.

01:14:25.000 Healthcare is gone.

01:14:26.000 People are going to be like, no, I won't do it.

01:14:28.000 Because I hear it all the time from people that they would rather, like we've had these conversations on the show before, and like we did polls where people are like, I'll put it like this.

01:14:38.000 You can expose all of the Epstein pedophiles.

01:14:42.000 Easily done.

01:14:42.000 Let's take it to the extreme end.

01:14:44.000 You have the file in your hands.

01:14:46.000 You can choose to, you know, a digital file.

01:14:50.000 You can press go and the internet, everyone will have it.

01:14:53.000 Your daughter will die at the same time.

01:14:55.000 Will you do it?

01:14:58.000 No.

01:14:59.000 No.

01:14:59.000 Nobody would.

01:15:00.000 No.

01:15:01.000 Nobody would.

01:15:01.000 And I'm not saying that's the reality.

01:15:03.000 I'm giving you an extreme hypothetical.

01:15:05.000 The point is, if it was something as simple as Trump says our economy is going to take a 20% hit, people will die, then Dan Bongino is going to be like, I can't do anything about it.

01:15:15.000 Is he going to be the guy who pulls a trigger and goes on to history as the one who caused, you know, deaths because he was like these people?

01:15:23.000 And I'm sure what happens behind the scenes is someone like Trump says, do you really want to see the U.S. economy collapse for these 15 assholes?

01:15:32.000 And people are going to be like, no.

01:15:34.000 So who's really going to press that button?

01:15:36.000 The truth is, all these people screaming, they would, I doubt they would.

01:15:39.000 No.

01:15:40.000 I might.

01:15:42.000 Well, I've done some of that.

01:15:43.000 But I'm not a crazy person describing.

01:15:46.000 I might be like, you know, look, that's why I said the people who are true to it, they're out there.

01:15:50.000 They know who they are.

01:15:51.000 They'd be like, I don't care.

01:15:52.000 I'll figure it out.

01:15:53.000 I lean in that direction, but I'm not going to pretend to be some like moralist guy who's better than everybody who would actually do it.

01:16:00.000 You know, if it came down to it and the president came to me and said, damn, I'm going to give you the choice.

01:16:04.000 You could press the button.

01:16:05.000 Here's all the bad things that are going to happen.

01:16:06.000 Do you want it to be on you?

01:16:07.000 I'd probably say no too.

01:16:08.000 You press that button.

01:16:09.000 There will be a significant amount more of children who suffer than what happened on the island.

01:16:14.000 Well, that and the very people who want you to release that information or press that button will then turn on you and probably kill you because you destroy their entire lives in the process.

01:16:24.000 They'll make up a reason.

01:16:25.000 A lot of people will be like, you didn't have to do it that way.

01:16:28.000 Don't want to do it, but you did it wrong.

01:16:29.000 Did you see the Bongino statistics, what he did at the FBI?

01:16:32.000 They arrested thousands of pedophiles.

01:16:34.000 And no one's celebrating that.

01:16:36.000 So I don't really think it's about the pedophiles.

01:16:38.000 I think it's about we want to see people in power that they are touchable, that we can get to them.

01:16:42.000 That's what it's about.

01:16:43.000 Because if it's about the children, they should be consistent then.

01:16:46.000 We've arrested pedophiles, thousands of them.

01:16:48.000 You just want to see people of power be arrested.

01:16:50.000 Just the election of Donald Trump meant that the trafficking of children across the southern border stopped.

01:16:55.000 Closing the border, or at least it's significantly decreased.

01:16:59.000 Yeah.

01:17:00.000 So to say that Donald Trump being the president isn't, you know, what are we getting out of it?

01:17:00.000 Absolutely.

01:17:05.000 Nothing's happening, blah, blah, blah.

01:17:07.000 I mean, the border's closed.

01:17:08.000 We don't have, we had a net or we had a decline in number of people that are in the country because of deportation.

01:17:14.000 Net negative migration now.

01:17:15.000 Yeah, net negative migration.

01:17:17.000 So like I understand people being frustrated because they're not seeing the results immediately and they're not getting what they want fast enough.

01:17:23.000 This is to say that nothing happened, that's just not true.

01:17:25.000 I think the chat right now is actually hilarious in that it's divided between people who say they would actually kill their daughters to publish the Epstein list and others saying it's disgusting you would consider killing your daughter to publish the Epstein list.

01:17:36.000 Like, I know it's an extreme end, but this is the reality of politics is that it's not yes, no.

01:17:43.000 It's not zero sum.

01:17:44.000 It's not, I can just do it and there's no ramifications.

01:17:48.000 The idea that Trump got into office and then decided to become evil is laughable.

01:17:52.000 Trump is Trump.

01:17:53.000 The idea that Dan Bongino dedicated his life to calling out all this evil, walked through a door and instantly just was transformed to a Sith lord.

01:18:01.000 It's just not correct.

01:18:03.000 Something is going on we don't understand and it's a rock and a hard place.

01:18:07.000 Everybody who lives on the outside, one of the challenges in being in politics and being in culture is like this kind of space is that most people who watch are not involved.

01:18:18.000 I'm not saying everybody, those who are, you know who you are and you're going through the fight.

01:18:22.000 But a lot of people just passively watch and they don't have to actually be the one who pulls the trigger.

01:18:26.000 Correct.

01:18:26.000 That's why I always give respect to veterans because, you know, I met a veteran recently, say he was a big fan and he appreciates what I do.

01:18:34.000 And I was like, I appreciate what you do, man.

01:18:36.000 Like, I complain on the internet.

01:18:38.000 The shit that, you know, our brave men and women have to do and do for us, most people don't want to talk about or know about.

01:18:45.000 And they don't have to.

01:18:46.000 So we often rag on liberals who act all high and mighty, not realizing what it takes to make America wealthy and successful.

01:18:54.000 And there's dark, evil shit this country does so that we can have cheap computers.

01:18:58.000 Yeah.

01:19:00.000 The lines that, or the, the rant that Jack Nicholson did in A Few Good Men was actually true.

01:19:06.000 Yeah.

01:19:08.000 Even though he was the bad guy and whatnot, like it's actually true that like, you know, brave men or, you know, brave men stand ready to do violent, visit violence on bad people so you can sleep soundly in your bed.

01:19:22.000 It's the same thing we do to socialists where we're like, how can you be a socialist?

01:19:24.000 We use an iPhone.

01:19:25.000 It's the same thing.

01:19:26.000 It's like, I am strongly against child exploitation.

01:19:29.000 And then they're wearing Nikes and they're having a cup of Nestle coffee every morning.

01:19:33.000 It's like, it's like, I'm critiquing the argument about socialists.

01:19:37.000 Like you're operating in a system that is built on like these sorts of really gross stuff.

01:19:41.000 No one wants to see how the sausage is made.

01:19:45.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:19:46.000 I say that a lot.

01:19:47.000 I just have that argument that people say, oh, you know, these kids are working for no money or dirt, you know, a dollar a day or whatever.

01:19:54.000 And it's like, well, you know, a lot of times the option is sexual, you know, sexual solicitation.

01:19:59.000 The world is really, Trump said it himself.

01:20:01.000 It's a nasty, angry place.

01:20:03.000 It's like, yeah, you got to make tough decisions.

01:20:05.000 Psychology says that, right?

01:20:06.000 So we feel the effect of one person dying more than a thousand people dying because we cannot wrap our heads around a thousand people just dying at the same time or a million people dying at the same time, right?

01:20:15.000 So we're very passionate about when we see like that one person, they're suffering, right?

01:20:18.000 So we see the girl who was murdered on the bus by a black guy. 0.99

01:20:21.000 I mean, that broke news ever.

01:20:23.000 We see Daniel Penny.

01:20:24.000 It's very easy to see it one time.

01:20:25.000 That stuff happens all the time, thousands of times a day.

01:20:29.000 And around the world, I mean, it happens millions of times a day.

01:20:31.000 We see one thing we're very passionate about.

01:20:33.000 Yeah, you get an Instagram reel of like, you know, someone dying in like a hurricane and it's this horrible thing and you really feel emotional.

01:20:39.000 And then, you know, like Bangladesh, like a thousand die in a mudslide, and you're like, oh, well, that's why we care about Epstein so much more than, you know, the other child trafficking that's happening all over the world that we're obviously complicit into at some level.

01:20:49.000 I think the reality of politics, geopolitics, the world and everything is that when it comes down to it, 99% of people would never sacrifice their friends, their families, and their security for the collective.

01:21:02.000 The reason why it works on the left is they don't have friends, family, or kids.

01:21:05.000 And the right does.

01:21:06.000 And that's why the right usually gets beaten down.

01:21:09.000 Because when it comes down to it, it's very easy for a crackpot leftist to shoot at your studio and threaten the life of your family and then put us in a position where we're like, we don't want to bring risk to our family.

01:21:19.000 But these leftists don't have families themselves.

01:21:21.000 So they don't face the same risk.

01:21:23.000 And then we're between the rock and the hard place of do we continually expose ourselves to a degenerate faction of evil scumbags who don't face the same remote, like the same fears, the same threats.

01:21:39.000 Most people in politics, like you, you look at some of the things that are happening around the world and you ask yourself why it is that Congress is a bunch of corrupt scumbags who are doing insider trading.

01:21:51.000 It's because nobody wants to risk their families to stop someone else.

01:21:57.000 To put it simply, Nancy Pelosi should be in prison for insider trading, but she's got the power to subpoena you and put you in prison, like the Jason's committee did to Bannon and Peter Navarro and that. 1.00

01:22:11.000 And so you're sitting there, depending on your age, especially, with your young kids and your wife, and you're like, if I try to fight this evil person, she will cause harm, not just me, but my family.

01:22:22.000 And the thing that we've brought up is that the founding fathers made that choice.

01:22:25.000 They sacrificed blood, treasure, and family.

01:22:28.000 Some of their, one guy's wife was kidnapped.

01:22:31.000 One guy has kid kid.

01:22:32.000 One guy's kid betrayed him.

01:22:34.000 And there are real questions about when people are willing to make those choices.

01:22:38.000 For the most part, right now, in this country, nobody wants to go head to head against these corrupt forces in government because these corrupt forces in government will arrest you and your lawyers.

01:22:47.000 They will make up fake crimes about you.

01:22:49.000 They will go on TV and accuse you of working for Russia or some other psychotic nonsense.

01:22:53.000 They will lie and claim that you've abused women or that you stole a lectern you didn't steal.

01:22:58.000 Yeah, that happens.

01:22:59.000 And I would be remiss if I didn't mention that January 6th, there were about 1,600 people that were willing to risk their freedom to speak up and say our country is being stolen from us.

01:23:07.000 So I do think those people do exist.

01:23:09.000 I think the entire reason they're still doing this is to remind you, we will come after you if you ever do this again.

01:23:14.000 That's the point.

01:23:15.000 In the future, exactly.

01:23:17.000 Why are Democrats having a candlelight vigil to say to anybody who would make the choice to risk everything, their family, blood, treasure, or otherwise, they are going to destroy you and everyone around you?

01:23:28.000 It is the kill you and three generations of your family threat. 0.75

01:23:32.000 I get that question all the time.

01:23:33.000 Would I do it again?

01:23:34.000 Now it's been five years later.

01:23:36.000 And I say at this point, absolutely yes.

01:23:38.000 I think it woke a lot of people up across the couple of years of them hunting us down.

01:23:43.000 What did you really do?

01:23:44.000 I walked around maliciously.

01:23:47.000 That's the point.

01:23:47.000 It's like you didn't wage war.

01:23:50.000 You walked into a room, threw the velvet ropes, and everybody was seemingly on a tour with cops taking selfies with people, and you picked up a lectern and waved and put it down.

01:23:58.000 It is true.

01:23:58.000 To be fair, you weren't like Braveheart, you know, clanking your sword and being like, they can never take our freedom.

01:24:04.000 I mean, it's like throwing tea over a boat, you know?

01:24:07.000 You know, with all due respect, it was less than that.

01:24:10.000 I know.

01:24:11.000 I should have taken it home.

01:24:13.000 I should have done something different.

01:24:14.000 There were rioters that were there that committed crimes and all that stuff.

01:24:17.000 But it's laughably insane the lengths they went to to destroy the lives of people who did barely anything.

01:24:23.000 People who walked into an open door and took a selfie with a cop and then got a year in jail because of it.

01:24:29.000 Yeah, they made an example.

01:24:30.000 That's all they're trying to do.

01:24:31.000 I mean, that's why you see following the Charlie Kirk assassination, you sit the back and you say, okay, I'm an ethical person.

01:24:36.000 How could someone even possibly conjure up the thought to like mock Charlie Kirk after his death?

01:24:41.000 These sorts of things.

01:24:42.000 It's like, that's the point.

01:24:43.000 They want to say what Charlie Kirk was doing was viable.

01:24:46.000 It was a threat to the system, so to speak.

01:24:49.000 Don't ever try that again or you'll be next.

01:24:51.000 That was the point of that.

01:24:52.000 And that's why they put the pictures up everywhere.

01:24:54.000 That's why they do the vigils.

01:24:54.000 They want to remind you, like, hey, you try that, you want to end up like him.

01:24:57.000 Oh, you want to end up like him?

01:24:58.000 Okay, here's a picture.

01:24:59.000 There.

01:24:59.000 That's going to be you.

01:25:00.000 It's going to be your father.

01:25:01.000 It's going to be your husband.

01:25:02.000 It's funny because, you know, I was talking to this liberal guy who's always arguing with me.

01:25:07.000 And I said, you know, we're not going to be at the studio anymore because of the shooting.

01:25:12.000 And I said, look how easy it is.

01:25:13.000 All liberals have to do is murder a few conservatives, then take some shots at me, and they can shut us up, right?

01:25:18.000 And this part of what I'm sick of with these, with the left.

01:25:25.000 You know, the Millennial Woes tweet that basically exemplifies the culture war.

01:25:29.000 Leftists pretending like they don't understand things to make discourse impossible.

01:25:33.000 There is no reality where these progressive personalities are unaware that it's conservatives and moderate right-leaning individuals that are facing the real threat of death.

01:25:43.000 Someone just tried breaking into JD Vance's home with a hammer smashing out his windows.

01:25:47.000 This isn't happening to the left.

01:25:48.000 Correct.

01:25:48.000 They just lie and pretend it is.

01:25:52.000 The lie and pretend it is the way that they treat themselves as victims, the way that they pad the numbers whenever it comes to how many politically motivated attacks are performed by the left versus the right.

01:26:05.000 They've been basically controlling the narrative for so long that your average person believes them.

01:26:14.000 And the more we try to get the word out, the more pushback you get.

01:26:19.000 Well, they're perpetually in rebellion and revolution.

01:26:21.000 They have a revolutionary mindset.

01:26:23.000 And so it's like, you always have to keep throwing meat into the grinder to keep the revolution going.

01:26:28.000 If the left ever just, they'll never actually come to a point where like, all right, I think we've won.

01:26:31.000 Let's all sit back and reap the rewards.

01:26:33.000 They're perpetually in a revolutionary mindset because they, again, perceive themselves as transgressed. 0.72

01:26:37.000 They perceive themselves as victims.

01:26:40.000 And they have their boogeyman, like straight white men. 0.75

01:26:43.000 That's what they still perceive as running every echelon of society, even though that Compact Mag article completely lies out.

01:26:50.000 No, it's actually the opposite.

01:26:52.000 Yeah, we do.

01:26:53.000 Our microaggression is like we open doors for ladies. 1.00

01:26:56.000 We're just the worst.

01:26:57.000 We put our shopping carts back.

01:26:58.000 It's horrible.

01:26:59.000 There's a comment here that I think makes a good example of the destabilization we're facing.

01:27:04.000 And it's small rabbit monkey says, I mean, you are a bit of a coward, Tim.

01:27:09.000 That I think that comment really does exemplify why we lose in the long run and why we've, you know, we've had tremendous victories.

01:27:16.000 I do think there's some optimism to look forward to right now.

01:27:20.000 It's tough.

01:27:21.000 It's tough not to be black pilled.

01:27:22.000 But imagine, and again, I will stress too, like this could be a bot.

01:27:26.000 It could be a liberal masquerading as someone on the right, trying to destabilize things.

01:27:31.000 I'll give you an example of why I'm singling this one out.

01:27:34.000 We had Father Ripperger on the culture war, and I talked about, I asked him, he's talking about demonic possession, demonic obsession, which is where the demons influencing you as opposed to being within you.

01:27:47.000 And he said, when people are effectively advocating for things that are wrong or bad, they're being influenced.

01:27:55.000 I had Seamus Coglin on, and Seamus brings this up as well as G Prime 85.

01:28:01.000 I recommend you guys follow G Prime.

01:28:03.000 He's an amazing artist.

01:28:04.000 And conservatives insult artists, comedians, gamers.

01:28:11.000 They insult me for skateboarding.

01:28:14.000 And I asked the father if that was demonic.

01:28:17.000 And he said, yes.

01:28:18.000 The reason why is regular people live in these spaces and you have to fish where the fish are.

01:28:24.000 If there are people attacking you to try and get you to stop doing good work, it's demonic.

01:28:29.000 If you are an artist like Seamus Coughlin or G Prime and you're trying to bring comedy to Americans that expresses and explains a conservative worldview in a funny way that makes them come into the house, if people then try to stop that work from happening, it's demonic.

01:28:47.000 That's what he was saying, that someone like Seamus, who's a devout Catholic, who makes funny videos, this is entertaining to regular people and it will open the door for them to come into his worldview, deeply religious, devout.

01:29:01.000 And then he's surrounded by conservatives screaming at him to stop because he's childish and it's for babies and he's wasting his time and wasting his life.

01:29:08.000 That's demonic.

01:29:10.000 So for these people, I would say two things.

01:29:12.000 One, this could just be a liberal trying to antagonize me.

01:29:15.000 It's fake.

01:29:15.000 It's troll.

01:29:16.000 But there are many conservatives who do this, sit in their houses, don't engage in the culture war, aren't getting shot at, and then smugly sit there and insult you for doing it, seemingly only to try and get you to stop.

01:29:29.000 Because, again, the reason why I say it could be a liberal, because now I'm faced with two distinct scenarios from both sides.

01:29:37.000 Death threats and getting shot at, which is a risk to me and my family that I don't want to deal with.

01:29:42.000 And conservatives insulting me over it.

01:29:45.000 Why would I fight for you?

01:29:47.000 Why would I risk getting shot at for you sitting at home doing nothing, insulting me?

01:29:53.000 Again, I stress probably a liberal and I largely ignore these things.

01:29:57.000 But when you're looking at prominent conservative personalities that have been on this show that are stabbing me in the back, lying about me because they're more concerned with Zijus than having real conversations, my question is, why would I risk getting shot for you? 0.93

01:30:12.000 I know for me, I've not been shot at, but the death threats, I mean, I still get those on a very regular basis.

01:30:17.000 For me, it's because I have convictions and because I'm not someone who will just sit by and watch things happen.

01:30:21.000 I have children and their futures are important to me.

01:30:24.000 It's why I'm doing things like getting involved locally with my community and running for office there.

01:30:28.000 And that's why I think local is really the key.

01:30:31.000 You know, the fault here comes to a nation-scale thing where you're fighting for people you don't know who hate you, right?

01:30:41.000 Not everybody, but many people.

01:30:43.000 I'd argue, I have sometimes more fans than haters, that people who hate me don't even know who I am, they don't follow the show.

01:30:48.000 So like when we go out and we go places, we never run into anybody who's actually like, I hate you, because they don't know, the people who don't like me don't even know what I look like.

01:30:56.000 But there is a challenge, again, to go back to like the Dan Bongino conversation of here's a guy who literally sacrificed everything to try and do it.

01:31:05.000 And when he couldn't do it, they insult him and they're trying to burn him to the ground.

01:31:10.000 And I'm just like, you can be disappointed in the guy and you can say, you failed.

01:31:18.000 That's fine.

01:31:20.000 But it's weird to me that they're acting like Dan's evil.

01:31:23.000 Yeah.

01:31:24.000 I genuinely feel bad for him.

01:31:26.000 I mean, he would not leave his podcast.

01:31:28.000 He would not leave a nice, comfortable life to go into a place to not do what he said he was going to do.

01:31:33.000 So he, so what, lose his reputation when he goes back?

01:31:36.000 None of that makes sense.

01:31:37.000 It's not rational.

01:31:38.000 It doesn't make sense at all.

01:31:39.000 Well, and it's from the same people that look what Dan had to give up to go.

01:31:45.000 I know what I had to give up to go to the Pentagon.

01:31:48.000 You're not allowed to make any money outside of what you're getting paid from the federal government, which is not a lot.

01:31:55.000 It's expensive in D.C.

01:31:57.000 They don't pay you a lot.

01:31:58.000 You get max taxes pulled out across the board.

01:32:03.000 These same people that are mad at Dan Bongino or me or whoever it is, again, they're the same people.

01:32:11.000 Look what Dan gave up, millions and millions of dollars to come out and be ridiculed by people, back to my earlier comment, that won't even move out of horrific cities where their families are not safe because they're worried about their paycheck of two grand every paycheck or something like that.

01:32:30.000 You're the same people that are, you would not do what Dan Bongino did.

01:32:35.000 And so are you really mad at Dan Bongino or are you mad because now you see that it's worse than you thought it was?

01:32:42.000 And I'll stress this too, because I would say ignore the direct comments on Dan Bongino, you, the threats against yourself, me, but look at the movement on the right right now and what the right is doing.

01:32:55.000 And the question I have is, is the right something worth fighting for?

01:32:59.000 And if there is a large faction of prominent individuals who are either degenerate evil scum or cowardly backing degenerate evil scum, I have to ask, it's not about one person insulting me.

01:33:12.000 It's a question of what the movement is and what it would do should it succeed.

01:33:16.000 Now, I know you made the point you have convictions and you're fighting those who want a better future for your kids.

01:33:21.000 Completely agree.

01:33:22.000 The question then is, is the time and energy I'm spending doing this and the risks accrued actually going to be a net benefit for my kids?

01:33:30.000 I don't believe that if the right moves in the direction of Candace Owens, it will be something worth preserving or making happen in the future.

01:33:38.000 And thus I would oppose it and fight against it, which is why I've criticized her.

01:33:41.000 And again, it's not about her.

01:33:42.000 It's about what she represents.

01:33:44.000 And it's about people like Megan Kelly who are continually backing her and lining up in her space.

01:33:50.000 It's about people like Matt Strickland who put a knife in my back because he wants to cozy up to her.

01:33:55.000 It's about the people that know she's lying but don't actually care about what the future is.

01:33:59.000 So when I see these trends and these movements among these individuals that, again, Candace literally used the same security as Charlie Kirk.

01:34:06.000 It's an easily provable fact.

01:34:07.000 It's so patently obvious she worked for Turning Point.

01:34:10.000 You don't even need to say anything beyond that.

01:34:11.000 And she's lying about it, but people don't care because she has views and they're going to follow that. 1.00

01:34:17.000 Is that group of people something we want to help?

01:34:20.000 If the right wins, is she and the people around her going to benefit from it?

01:34:25.000 We don't want that.

01:34:26.000 Well, then the question is, what is the right actually fighting for?

01:34:29.000 Because if prominent individuals like, you know, Megan Kelly is a great example.

01:34:33.000 She's repeatedly just been demure to Candace and like refused to just say like literally Candace is making shit up and lying. 1.00

01:34:41.000 Many people have come out and called her out on it.

01:34:43.000 But again, there's a few other people that I'm not going to name because we have no public beef, but people have been in the show who have lost their fucking minds and are no longer talking about populist issues or foreign wars.

01:34:54.000 They're screaming about Israel 24-7.

01:34:56.000 I'm not here to fight for those people.

01:34:57.000 So if I'm getting shot at and I've got psychotic, you know, retards like, you know, in Candace's sphere, and then you've got cowards unwilling to stand up to her, do I really want to risk things for that future? 1.00

01:35:11.000 No, then what do you do?

01:35:13.000 Well, we got to figure out what we are fighting for and who we are fighting for.

01:35:16.000 And the challenge I see now is the right is fracturing and the left is fractured.

01:35:21.000 Not a single Democrat that might correctly call out something Trump has done or these crackpot conservatives is worth defending because they defend child sex changes all the same.

01:35:32.000 But I'm not going to defend the Zejus people who live in a retard world either. 1.00

01:35:35.000 So then who is our community and what is the future going to look like?

01:35:38.000 Honestly, I have no idea.

01:35:40.000 In the meantime, do I want to get shot at not knowing what I'm fighting for?

01:35:43.000 Honestly, it doesn't seem like it makes sense.

01:35:46.000 It's not sufficient to just be the opposition.

01:35:49.000 I mean, that was the problem with the Republican Party for, again, 60, 70 years, is they're just primarily the opposition party.

01:35:55.000 They were just slow down what the Democrats were trying to do and manage the decline.

01:35:59.000 And like, if you're in politics, your entire job, whether you're in media or like, you know, actually in elected office, your entire job is you have a set of ideas or a set of, you know, a vision for how you want America to be.

01:36:09.000 And then you have to identify the political vehicles that are viable to bring forth this vision.

01:36:14.000 And yeah, like Tim's saying, we're kind of entering this period where engines or vehicles that are not viable are now starting to lead the packet.

01:36:21.000 And in some regards, and it's just you sit back and you go, okay, this is a little frustrating.

01:36:25.000 I've heard from so many people where they in politics where they say, Tim, just get your bag.

01:36:32.000 And if you look at a lot of the prominent personalities, it's very clear that they're just trying to get their bag.

01:36:37.000 Yeah.

01:36:38.000 And so it's just like, it's kind of disheartening.

01:36:40.000 It's like, were we actually fighting for a better country or were y'all just trying to get a bag?

01:36:44.000 And you've got two worlds.

01:36:45.000 You've got the Democrats who are propped up.

01:36:49.000 I should say Democrat personalities, these podcasters, that say obviously, like post obvious lies.

01:36:55.000 David Pachman, I'll say his name a million times, scumbag.

01:36:59.000 He'll post things that are obviously not true because it gets clicks.

01:37:02.000 Brian Tyler Cohen, every video he's posting is just a picture of Trump.

01:37:06.000 Get your bag.

01:37:07.000 And now you've got people on the right that are just like, I don't know much about much, but Candace is getting views.

01:37:12.000 So I'm going to defend whatever she's saying, even though it's clearly bullshit.

01:37:14.000 Well, to Graham's point, I think you nail the head on this.

01:37:17.000 You make more money if you lose the midterms as a conservative pundit.

01:37:22.000 1 million percent.

01:37:23.000 100%.

01:37:24.000 And so I think that's probably the driving reason why they are trying to tank the MAGA party, which is why midterms are so important.

01:37:30.000 Guys, listen, it takes longer than a year to fix what has gone on.

01:37:34.000 Even just the past four years, Biden administration, they've had a lot of time to mess some things up.

01:37:38.000 It's going to take some time to unwind that clock.

01:37:40.000 You have to show up for midterms.

01:37:42.000 You have to vote.

01:37:43.000 Don't listen to these people who are doom scrolling, these people who are just trying to bury the bus.

01:37:47.000 We can still win this thing.

01:37:48.000 They are, it's not going to happen after the midterms.

01:37:51.000 But if the Republicans lose 2028, they're going to pack the courts.

01:37:55.000 Yeah.

01:37:55.000 They're going to, I think they'll probably curtail presidential pardon power.

01:38:01.000 I'm going back to prison for sure.

01:38:03.000 Yeah.

01:38:04.000 I mean, that's true.

01:38:05.000 They will be going after person personalities and stuff like that.

01:38:10.000 I think that the things that the Democrats want to do, it'll go beyond packing the court.

01:38:15.000 They'll do things like they'll blow up the filibuster so they can do all this stuff. 0.99

01:38:19.000 They'll try to make that midterms.

01:38:19.000 They'll get rid of it.

01:38:22.000 Yeah, probably.

01:38:23.000 If they win the House and the Senate, filibuster is gone in a second.

01:38:28.000 In a second.

01:38:29.000 And then start ramming everything they can do.

01:38:31.000 But Trump's going to veto and block a lot of it.

01:38:33.000 Until a Democrat actually wins the presidency.

01:38:35.000 It kind of sounds like Thune should do something then while we still have time.

01:38:38.000 Sure.

01:38:39.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:39.000 You have the Republicans where Chuck Grassley comes out and like, we need to get rid of the blue slip system.

01:38:43.000 Like, Trump can't get his judges across the finish line.

01:38:45.000 And then he's like, well, you know, it's an important principle because during the Biden administration, like, we use it.

01:38:50.000 And it's like, dude, we're getting shot at.

01:38:52.000 Like, what are we doing?

01:38:53.000 Principles kind of out the window.

01:38:55.000 Like, we need to win now because if this MAGA movement fails, it's tough to see the calculus after that.

01:39:01.000 Like, it's going to be different.

01:39:03.000 Power is the only thing that matters.

01:39:04.000 I understand that there are people that are like, well, you know, principle matters, et cetera, et cetera.

01:39:08.000 We live in the real world.

01:39:09.000 Principle does not actually provide you with victory.

01:39:13.000 Principle is a way to say, well, you know, we lost and it's an excuse for losing.

01:39:20.000 We live in the real politic world.

01:39:22.000 So like the important thing is victories.

01:39:24.000 So it doesn't matter.

01:39:25.000 It doesn't matter that you don't like to work with this person or that you feel kind of squishy about something.

01:39:31.000 Victory, winning, having, you know, running the scoreboard up on your side is the only thing that matters.

01:39:37.000 And the situation that we're in today, where people on the right are getting killed, people on the right are being put in jail for BS, BS charges, like that will only get worse.

01:39:48.000 Yeah, principle only matters if your opposition also has principles and then you have competing principles.

01:39:54.000 But we're in a situation where one side has principles.

01:39:56.000 This is the entire, like, this is what the back to the Venezuela thing.

01:39:58.000 This is why it's driving so many of these people that are sort of adherent to the old system crazy because it's like Trump accurately views other countries as self-interested.

01:40:06.000 And he's like, America should be self-interested.

01:40:07.000 We should apply that to politics.

01:40:09.000 We should be self-interested.

01:40:10.000 What's in it for us?

01:40:11.000 Let me know.

01:40:11.000 How do we win?

01:40:13.000 Let's take a story on.

01:40:14.000 I know we're running a little late, but I want to talk about this, my friends.

01:40:18.000 From the Financial Times, influencers and OnlyFan models dominate U.S. extraordinary artist visas.

01:40:25.000 They're hookers, all of them. 1.00

01:40:27.000 Work permits increasingly being awarded on the basis of online reach favoring content creators.

01:40:33.000 Yeah, the OnlyFans things.

01:40:35.000 Was this what we were fighting for?

01:40:39.000 We've been fighting for nice boobies our entire yeah, we wanted Trump to bring in porn stars and hookers on our one visas. 1.00

01:40:47.000 Did Alex Stein get elected or get a job there?

01:40:51.000 Is that it?

01:40:53.000 I think the challenging reality that we have that people don't want to understand is the problem.

01:40:57.000 Rome wasn't built in a day.

01:40:59.000 We can't turn around and solve all the problems at once because they're interconnected.

01:41:04.000 And so what do you do?

01:41:06.000 Trump goes full dictator despot and just overnight rewrites everything and locks everything down.

01:41:13.000 So I think we're going to be stuck with this kind of BS and Trump's going to be only a marginal success.

01:41:18.000 To be fair, he's a little bit more than marginal.

01:41:19.000 I mean, getting rid of USAID was massive.

01:41:21.000 So I think it's a historic presidency, but it's not going to be as much as needs to happen.

01:41:29.000 And we have to win probably another 12 to 13 years of presidential power and Congress and the Senate to truly start turning the ship around.

01:41:37.000 Have to win another 10 to 12 election cycles to truly turn it around.

01:41:43.000 And that's what when I got out of the Pentagon and came back to the mic on the show, that's what I told everybody.

01:41:50.000 I said, the main thing I want everyone to know, this is my kind of Paul Revere moment that like the battle is not over.

01:41:58.000 It's not the British are coming, but the, you know, the Dems are coming.

01:42:02.000 Like, like, like, it is not over.

01:42:04.000 We've got to win again and I think that's what you're going to hear when Dan eventually does go back to his show.

01:42:15.000 I think he will also echo those points.

01:42:19.000 I don't see Dan coming out and defending himself a lot.

01:42:23.000 I see him taking the approach of, I don't care what those idiots have to say.

01:42:27.000 This is what really is going on.

01:42:29.000 And this is why I'm back.

01:42:31.000 We have to win these midterms because to your point, Donald Trump will be impeached.

01:42:36.000 He's already said he knows it.

01:42:38.000 He'll be impeached.

01:42:40.000 Every secretary we have will be dragged in front of Congress.

01:42:45.000 They will probably try to put Pete Hegseth behind bars for war crimes.

01:42:52.000 All of this stuff will happen.

01:42:53.000 Every one of us that was on the FBI's watch list that we now know we were.

01:42:58.000 What do you think will happen in 28 if we don't win in 28?

01:43:01.000 They're going to come after us harder than they ever did during the Biden administration.

01:43:07.000 These are all things that are really going to happen.

01:43:10.000 These are the realities of things that are going to happen.

01:43:13.000 So you can sit and you can whine and you can moan and you can complain all you want to.

01:43:18.000 Maybe it's bots.

01:43:19.000 Maybe it's foreign entities. 0.52

01:43:20.000 Whatever it may be.

01:43:21.000 Maybe it's big tech companies that want to fracture the right.

01:43:27.000 Whatever it may be, if we keep going down this road, we will lose the midterms.

01:43:32.000 We will lose 2028.

01:43:34.000 And then we will have 2020 through 2024 10x of what it was.

01:43:40.000 And that is what triple masks.

01:43:43.000 Yeah.

01:43:44.000 Wear three of them.

01:43:45.000 They will lock you down again.

01:43:47.000 We will go to social credit scores.

01:43:49.000 Like all these things are real.

01:43:51.000 And the average American has not felt that.

01:43:55.000 We have felt that because we've had big tech go after us.

01:43:59.000 You've been put in prison.

01:44:00.000 You've had people shoot at you in your house.

01:44:02.000 I get 100 death threats a day.

01:44:04.000 We call it a Tuesday at the office.

01:44:07.000 Like we deal with actual targeting against us for our views and what we think and what we feel.

01:44:15.000 The average American has not had to deal with that.

01:44:17.000 That is just the truth.

01:44:19.000 And a lot of people see us right now, Tim.

01:44:21.000 I know they see it in your face because I see it in your face too.

01:44:24.000 They see it in mine in the show.

01:44:27.000 We know more than we did 10, 12 years ago when we first started doing this.

01:44:32.000 We have seen more.

01:44:36.000 And we are in real time watching what's going on.

01:44:39.000 And we're also trying to discern and figure out which way is this thing turning?

01:44:45.000 Who's real?

01:44:46.000 Who's not?

01:44:46.000 Who's actually on the team?

01:44:48.000 Who's just in it to get their bag, as you said, Tim?

01:44:52.000 Who can we actually trust?

01:44:54.000 I'm being generous when I think, when I say, I think you can automatically say 50% of the people that you listen to and that you watch are not in it to help you.

01:45:07.000 They do not give a crap about this country.

01:45:09.000 They do not care if it burns to the ground.

01:45:12.000 They just want their money and or they want the power of being famous.

01:45:18.000 And that's generous, 50%. 0.96

01:45:19.000 I think it's more 87, 90% personally.

01:45:23.000 But that is where we really are.

01:45:27.000 And people don't want to hear it, but that is the truth.

01:45:29.000 Silver linings, if they do get back into power, it means I get my TSA special time again.

01:45:34.000 Which is, you know, always ask you about yourself.

01:45:36.000 Pre-check?

01:45:37.000 I do not.

01:45:38.000 Really?

01:45:39.000 You should apply.

01:45:40.000 I should.

01:45:45.000 Post-check, I think.

01:45:46.000 Post-check.

01:45:47.000 You apply for pre-check and they add post-check.

01:45:49.000 It's a red check mark.

01:45:51.000 Most airports, if you're flying first, you get to go through that lane anyway.

01:45:54.000 There's a handful, yeah.

01:45:55.000 A guaranteed 100% random bag checks.

01:45:59.000 It's totally random, but it will happen every time.

01:46:01.000 It will happen every time.

01:46:01.000 Literally.

01:46:02.000 It's one of those things that's like, it was after the Charlie Kirk assassination.

01:46:06.000 I think people realize this is like when the left says things, you actually should believe them when they say these things because they actually intend on doing it.

01:46:11.000 Like I get tweets every day.

01:46:13.000 If you have expressed any support for the mass deportations with ICE's operations, you're on a list.

01:46:18.000 Like people don't realize this.

01:46:20.000 Even if you're like have a small Twitter account, if it's your name on there and you've tweeted like these things, I promise you, go to archive.org.

01:46:26.000 Someone has logged your account.

01:46:27.000 They've documented it.

01:46:28.000 It's on internet archive.

01:46:29.000 So the commentariat, but even like patriots that are supporting the commentariat are cooked if the Democrats get back in because when they tweet, they tweet at me all the time.

01:46:37.000 They're like, Nuremberg trials for conservatives.

01:46:39.000 It's coming.

01:46:40.000 You're in trouble.

01:46:41.000 I actually believe them.

01:46:42.000 I'm like, yeah, if they ever get back in power, they do intend on doing that.

01:46:45.000 They were going to kill Charlie and then Charlie got killed.

01:46:47.000 It's like, believe these people when they say these things and get moving.

01:46:47.000 Yeah, literally.

01:46:50.000 Like it's, it's crazy.

01:46:51.000 Well, people get mad at people like Tim, all of us, because we get behind the mic and they can see we are frustrated, right?

01:47:01.000 But these are the same people that Dan Bongino, when he was deputy director, in his office, looks me in the eye and go, yeah, you're on all kinds of lists in here.

01:47:11.000 Like, you know what I mean?

01:47:12.000 Like, like, we know.

01:47:15.000 We know that we know that we know.

01:47:17.000 And they're going to go after us first because we're the dissenting voices.

01:47:21.000 We are the ones.

01:47:22.000 They're going to go after us to make examples out of us for all of the other people that watch us.

01:47:27.000 And then when we're not there anymore, they're going to go after everybody else.

01:47:31.000 So it's frustration.

01:47:33.000 Tim, to your point, we're trying to work it out in our heads at the same time.

01:47:39.000 We're fighting for this country, but this country is now turning against us because we're not bobbing and weaving with every freaking thing because they're not the trending thing going on.

01:47:51.000 They're not for this country.

01:47:53.000 They're an extra-national force that wants to create global economic blocks.

01:48:00.000 The liberal economic order may have started with the United States, but it's effectively an extra governmental entity that just puppet strings the United States.

01:48:08.000 And the problem is, how do you stop someone who's figured it out?

01:48:13.000 And any conspiracy, right?

01:48:15.000 Someone goes, I'm on to something.

01:48:16.000 I think I have evidence that you're doing a thing.

01:48:19.000 You want them to go in the wrong direction.

01:48:20.000 So I mentioned this with Pizzagate.

01:48:22.000 People started to say, hey, these emails from the Democrats are really weird.

01:48:24.000 What's this talking about?

01:48:25.000 A handkerchief with a map on it.

01:48:27.000 What could that mean?

01:48:28.000 What do they mean when they said, is it more fun to do play dominoes on pizza or on pasta?

01:48:33.000 Okay, well, if I was working in government and I was concerned that people figured out Democrats were having drunken drug field orgies, how do you break that chain?

01:48:42.000 They inserted fake stuff about ping pong and pizza restaurants.

01:48:47.000 A guy went and shot the ground looking for a basement that didn't exist.

01:48:51.000 Everyone then is told, see, it's not real, you're crazy, and it dissipates.

01:48:54.000 So when you begin talking about the liberal economic order formed after World War II to create economic blocks, their view was the World Bank switch payment system.

01:49:06.000 We will prevent World War III by making everybody trade with each other. 0.94

01:49:09.000 That's why Canada, with no bauxite mines, refines aluminum for the United States.

01:49:15.000 I mean, we have bauxite mines in Louisiana.

01:49:18.000 Why are we importing aluminum from Canada?

01:49:20.000 Canada imports their raw minerals from China and like New Guinea and Brazil.

01:49:27.000 It's because the goal is war stops if you're dependent upon each other.

01:49:31.000 That's the liberal economic order plan.

01:49:33.000 When people start pointing this out, what do you do?

01:49:36.000 Tell them it's the Jews. 1.00

01:49:37.000 Then they sound like they're retarded and won't actually be able to pinpoint who's doing what. 0.97

01:49:41.000 Because remember for a long time, what were we all talking about?

01:49:44.000 The World Economic Forum, the Davos group?

01:49:46.000 These same people are now tweeting the Jews all day.

01:49:48.000 I assure you, random regular Jews have nothing to do with what the World Economic Forum is doing. 0.99

01:49:53.000 There may be some people who are Jewish, but if you go to someone and say, there is a group, the Davos group, there is Soros, there is the World Economic Forum, there is the Council on Foreign Relations.

01:50:03.000 These things exist.

01:50:04.000 You can read their websites.

01:50:05.000 Here's what they're doing.

01:50:06.000 I think it's a bad thing.

01:50:07.000 Enough people start calling out, you will own nothing and you will be happy.

01:50:12.000 You will eat the bugs.

01:50:14.000 And they go, crap.

01:50:16.000 How do we get them off this?

01:50:18.000 Put Cannes on the front page.

01:50:20.000 He never screams the Jews.

01:50:21.000 Now the people that were once talking about the Davos group are talking about the Jews, and they sound like they're retarded. 0.99

01:50:26.000 That's how you break it apart.

01:50:28.000 So, to the point, what is happening with this country when you say they're going to put us on lists and they're going to do these things to us?

01:50:33.000 It's not America that's doing it. 0.92

01:50:34.000 Trump is America.

01:50:35.000 We're America.

01:50:36.000 It's the forces outside of America that want to create an international order since World War II that are looking at us like basically chickens in a chicken coop that are ruffling feathers.

01:50:45.000 And you know what you do with chickens that are causing fights?

01:50:47.000 You eat them.

01:50:50.000 Yep.

01:50:50.000 Globo homo.

01:50:52.000 Global homogenization.

01:50:52.000 That's right.

01:50:54.000 Yeah.

01:50:54.000 So if look, if I had five chicken coops and I was like, they're always fighting with each other.

01:50:59.000 I want to make it so that they can all be in one coop.

01:51:01.000 If there's one rich that's causing problems, you axe them.

01:51:04.000 You pull them out, you string them up, you chop side off, you eat them.

01:51:07.000 And then that's what they're doing.

01:51:10.000 The interests here are international.

01:51:11.000 They are not pro-America.

01:51:13.000 And they have influence in our politics.

01:51:16.000 They have influence in the UK.

01:51:18.000 And I don't consider them to be pro-America.

01:51:21.000 It's NATO.

01:51:21.000 It's the Western powers.

01:51:23.000 And then I have to deal with these retards that are like, you mean it's Israel? 1.00

01:51:26.000 No, Israel's on a puppet string too.

01:51:28.000 But they are.

01:51:28.000 Don't be stupid.

01:51:29.000 And because of people like that, that's why we struggle to form a coalition and actually go against them.

01:51:35.000 But let me just stress this again.

01:51:38.000 Five years ago, what was everyone saying?

01:51:40.000 Davos Group, World Economic Forum, Council on Foreign Relations, Liberal Economic Order, Social Payment System, International Monetary Fund.

01:51:47.000 Now, what are all the people saying?

01:51:48.000 Israel.

01:51:51.000 We were on the right track for a while.

01:51:52.000 Yeah, well, I mean, look, this is the ultimate way to determine who's the most viable threat to the system.

01:51:57.000 It's like, are they targeting radicals?

01:51:59.000 These people that are like really edgy and these sorts of things?

01:52:01.000 No, they're targeting people that have occupied the mainstream and reoriented it.

01:52:04.000 Charlie Kirk, Donald Trump.

01:52:06.000 I do want to stress one thing too, because I went to the, I was at a Davos group.

01:52:12.000 I'm sorry, I was in Davos during the World Economic Forum back in, I think it was 2017.

01:52:18.000 So I didn't get into the World Economic Forum, but outside of the main conference, they have these pop-up events.

01:52:23.000 It's kind of like a wealthy internationalist South by Southwest.

01:52:28.000 And I'll just say that, as I said it before, I'll say it again.

01:52:31.000 The theme there was that cryptocurrency was going to be the global machine.

01:52:36.000 And it's funny because 2017, what was Bitcoin's price back then?

01:52:41.000 2017, it was like it just hit $20,000.

01:52:45.000 I think it was briefly 20, it dropped back down to like, you know.

01:52:48.000 It dropped all the way down to 3,000.

01:52:50.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:52:51.000 At this time, I have all of these global elites and politicians and family of royalty in and around Davos.

01:52:59.000 And they're saying our intention, they didn't say like, we are going to conquer the world and make everyone use crypto.

01:53:05.000 They were saying our company, our family, our politicians, our government, we want crypto to be the thing.

01:53:11.000 Look where crypto is now.

01:53:12.000 It's expanding.

01:53:13.000 It's growing.

01:53:14.000 I think it's very clear that international elites of varying political factions, their intention is to make crypto the currency of the, it exists for a reason.

01:53:23.000 But we got to go to your rants and super chats with the time that we have left.

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01:55:07.000 Shout out, let's grab your rants and chats. 0.99

01:55:10.000 My friends with the sorry I went a little long, you know we're ranting.

01:55:14.000 Uh, let's see unit Unit Loose says apologies.

01:55:16.000 Demon and portal at Amfest25 on lg screen.

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01:55:23.000 Channel Right SIDE Broadcasting Network video titled live replay, Tposa's America Fest conference, we pulled that up.

01:55:30.000 Uh, wasn't there.

01:55:32.000 We pulled it up last night, didn't see anything uh.

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01:55:45.000 You want to try and find it.

01:55:46.000 Yeah, all right, Phil's gonna try and find it.

01:55:47.000 What time did he say?

01:55:50.000 Uh, three hours and 43 seconds and uh, i'm sorry, three hours, 43 minutes and 40 seconds.

01:55:56.000 KC85 says noble six from Discord here got laid off today makes it more irritating.

01:56:01.000 Alleged criminals and other Democrat Funded leeches have drained billions of our taxes that could help people like myself.

01:56:07.000 Preach bummer yep Shanitz, Water says prayers out to the crew.

01:56:13.000 Uh, really do appreciate it.

01:56:15.000 Um uh, Callum's pretty banged up but he was discharged.

01:56:20.000 Uh Mark, staying overnight hopefully.

01:56:22.000 Uh, everything's good.

01:56:23.000 But I don't want to say uh, I don't know if serious is the right to describe it, but I think serious were the injuries, like um, Mark's mark's pretty bad, you know, but we think he's gonna be okay.

01:56:33.000 So you know, hoping for the best.

01:56:37.000 Pinot says for the record, not one damn corrupt federal agent was fired.

01:56:41.000 Do nothing Dan, didn't do ish.

01:56:44.000 That is a line of bs from this guest.

01:56:46.000 I'm going to say it again, brother.

01:56:48.000 You don't know what's going on in the machine.

01:56:51.000 That's also not true.

01:56:52.000 They did, and then they got blocked from firing everything.

01:56:55.000 The same thing that happened in the Pentagon.

01:56:58.000 All the department at the time, DOD employees that were let go and they had voluntary let go and then some were being let go.

01:57:06.000 They got blocked by the courts.

01:57:09.000 And then they ruled that they had to hire them back and all this other kind of stuff.

01:57:13.000 You don't know what you're talking about.

01:57:15.000 Go back and read it.

01:57:16.000 Go back and look at all the articles.

01:57:18.000 That's the thing.

01:57:19.000 Just to put it simply, I don't understand this idea that before Dan went in, everyone's like, yes.

01:57:24.000 Then Dan goes in.

01:57:26.000 You don't get what you want, and Dan comes out.

01:57:30.000 We're the same place we were before he went in.

01:57:33.000 I don't understand.

01:57:33.000 These are the people saying the FBI needs to be shut down.

01:57:36.000 What is the premise of that?

01:57:36.000 The FBI is not something that can be recovered from.

01:57:38.000 So that hasn't changed, has it?

01:57:40.000 So when Dan goes in, if your premise was the FBI should be shut down, it's not salvageable.

01:57:45.000 You thought Dan could do it?

01:57:45.000 What changed?

01:57:47.000 Your premise still is the same.

01:57:47.000 No.

01:57:50.000 I think you're, I don't understand why it's zero-sum.

01:57:53.000 Like you're all of a sudden, Dan's, like, Dan's not accomplished anything good.

01:57:58.000 He's done so much good.

01:57:59.000 Why is this one thing he messed up making him a bad person now?

01:58:02.000 He didn't press the fix everything button.

01:58:04.000 How dare him?

01:58:05.000 It was right there on his desk and he never pressed it.

01:58:08.000 I think it's fine if someone says he's failed.

01:58:11.000 I'm disappointed.

01:58:12.000 He was a terrible deputy FBI director, but he's done a lot of great work.

01:58:16.000 I look forward to him coming back and working and doing more for us.

01:58:19.000 Like, I don't understand why it's not, he's bad now forever.

01:58:23.000 I'm like, what?

01:58:24.000 It's not zero sum.

01:58:26.000 Take as much positive as you can.

01:58:28.000 If he didn't do the best job, if he didn't do a good job, if he did a bad job, fine.

01:58:32.000 Call him out, criticize him for it, and then wish him the best to keep working on behalf of us when he comes back to his show.

01:58:37.000 Is it the most effective place he can be?

01:58:39.000 It may be.

01:58:40.000 People are making fun of him, being like, oh, now that Dan's leaving, the FBI, he's going to get the job done.

01:58:44.000 I'm like, yeah, maybe it's the best place for him.

01:58:47.000 Like, maybe he's not good at being in the FBI.

01:58:49.000 I don't know.

01:58:50.000 Yeah.

01:58:50.000 It's like, or we can just wait and see what he has to say.

01:58:52.000 I mean, like, we haven't even really heard much from Dan yet.

01:58:56.000 Well, also, even if, even if, which is not true, but hypothetically, even if Dan accomplished nothing and he was this terrible deputy director, which he was not, even if, okay, the guy tried.

01:59:11.000 Yeah.

01:59:11.000 He tried.

01:59:13.000 He did what 300 plus million other Americans would not do, especially giving up what he gave up to go do it.

01:59:24.000 He tried.

01:59:27.000 Even if he did hypothetically suck at it, which he didn't, but even if he did, at least he tried.

01:59:32.000 Right.

01:59:33.000 You know, can the majority of Americans say that?

01:59:37.000 No, they can't.

01:59:38.000 And so.

01:59:39.000 I love this when Hopsa did.

01:59:40.000 He says, hold on.

01:59:41.000 Didn't Tim have a meeting with Netanyahu, and he's the one that keeps saying the Jews trying to discredit a legitimate complaint about foreign influence on our government.

01:59:48.000 You have zero credibility.

01:59:50.000 You know who else met with Netanyahu?

01:59:52.000 Trump.

01:59:53.000 Yeah.

01:59:54.000 That proves it.

01:59:55.000 That proves that Trump actually is only the vice president.

01:59:58.000 Netanyahu is the president of America.

01:59:59.000 Netanyahu was actually just with Trump.

02:00:01.000 This is crazy.

02:00:02.000 You want to hear something crazy?

02:00:03.000 That proves it.

02:00:04.000 And if you go to Netanyahu's Wikipedia page and go to early life, he's Jewish.

02:00:08.000 Shut up. 0.95

02:00:09.000 I know.

02:00:10.000 It's like these Israeli prime ministers.

02:00:10.000 Every time.

02:00:12.000 Every time it's Jewish. 1.00

02:00:13.000 It's like, what?

02:00:14.000 I'm starting to think Israel is ran by Jews. 0.99

02:00:16.000 That's just me.

02:00:17.000 Singleberg Tymowitz.

02:00:20.000 Mason says, Tim, I have a theory that will make everyone mad.

02:00:23.000 Netanyahu took your warning about the indifference and antipathy of America's future towards Israel and paid off evil people to make that retarded. 0.99

02:00:32.000 I disagree because the right and the left hate Israel.

02:00:36.000 This is the thing about the Israel conspiracy theory.

02:00:38.000 Israel is retarded. 1.00

02:00:39.000 I'm sorry.

02:00:40.000 It's just true.

02:00:40.000 They are miserably bad at PR.

02:00:43.000 Nothing that they're doing is like.

02:00:45.000 Charlie told him that.

02:00:47.000 That was in Charlie's note.

02:00:49.000 He did a seminar with Gen Z, with Andrew Colvett to convince Gen Z that Israel was good.

02:00:54.000 Like, that's what he was doing for Israel.

02:00:55.000 Israel is so bad at PR, everyone hates them. 1.00

02:01:00.000 And I don't understand this conspiracy theory where it's like, you know, Israel's controlling everything.

02:01:05.000 Then why does everyone hate them?

02:01:08.000 Why is YouTube propping up Candace Owens?

02:01:10.000 Israel must not control YouTube.

02:01:12.000 YouTube is the last rebellion.

02:01:14.000 Is that what it is?

02:01:15.000 YouTube is the last place for free speech to call out Israel, I guess.

02:01:18.000 Why are the people that make the most money doing what we do?

02:01:22.000 Are they allowed to talk about Israel and talk bad about Israel?

02:01:27.000 By the very premise, if Israel controls everything, then why do those of us that make the most money, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candace Owens, all these people, they make the most money out of all of us that do this?

02:01:40.000 Yeah.

02:01:41.000 And they all hate Israel.

02:01:42.000 Breaking the rise.

02:01:43.000 Why are they allowed to do it? 0.50

02:01:44.000 That doesn't make sense.

02:01:45.000 It's safe-edgy, too, because it's like there was a time where it was a little controversial and you could get in trouble or have some issues.

02:01:52.000 None of them had anything to say.

02:01:53.000 It's as soon as it's like now in vogue to critique Israel.

02:01:57.000 They can be like, like, you have these comedians getting up and they're like, I'm worried about my life if I say something about Israel.

02:02:01.000 I'm like, dude, you have the biggest podcast.

02:02:04.000 There's an idea I've heard that if you want to make people believe anti-Semitism is real, then you have to promote it. 0.98

02:02:09.000 Right.

02:02:10.000 And so maybe the large amount of things we're hearing online for people being propped up is them saying, see, anti-Semitism is real and it's everywhere.

02:02:18.000 I mean, that would mean that in the next few years, they will be censored and shut down.

02:02:23.000 And perhaps it's a false flag, maybe, that you get this, you know, Candace, massive show, Ian Carroll, all of these Zeju people, and on the left and the right, a year or two later, the government comes out and says, see, look at this problem. 1.00

02:02:38.000 We need to censor. 0.99

02:02:39.000 And that's how they bring censorship back.

02:02:41.000 I think it's all game retarded. 1.00

02:02:42.000 We got to go to the uncensored portion of the show, but I've got one super chat I want to read from Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

02:02:47.000 Adam, do you regret taking part in the second 9-11?

02:02:55.000 Honestly, at this point, I think we should have done more.

02:02:55.000 No, not a bit.

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02:06:12.000 Roll it.

02:06:14.000 Where's the chat?

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02:06:22.000 Members.

02:06:24.000 Oh, there we go.

02:06:26.000 House Republican dies at 65.

02:06:28.000 Did you guys see this?

02:06:29.000 Oh, man.

02:06:30.000 Yeah, what's his name?

02:06:32.000 Lamalfa?

02:06:33.000 Yeah, Doug Lamalfa.

02:06:36.000 Passed away.

02:06:36.000 There's now a one-seat majority.

02:06:39.000 And with Thomas Massey being fairly independent, there's a no-seat majority.

02:06:44.000 Yep.

02:06:45.000 But to be fair, Thomas Massey called it Republicans because he was like, I don't vote with Republicans when they do dumb shit.

02:06:51.000 You know what I mean?

02:06:52.000 Yeah.

02:06:53.000 I mean, I still think that his constantly fighting with Trump, I think, is pointless.

02:07:01.000 I mean, I know there are things that Trump does that he doesn't like, but I feel like he's just kind of counter signaling like Tate says, you know, he doesn't need to be so.

02:07:13.000 I mean, I guess Trump does it too, though.

02:07:16.000 You know, I like a principled guy.

02:07:18.000 I like that he votes constitutionally.

02:07:19.000 These are all great things.

02:07:20.000 We can all agree on that.

02:07:21.000 But at some point, we have to get work done.

02:07:22.000 That's why we sent you there.

02:07:24.000 So I understand you don't like some of the things that are in every single bill that comes through.

02:07:27.000 I get that.

02:07:28.000 But we don't have a lot of time to get things done.

02:07:30.000 And Massey's going to be fine when all is done.

02:07:32.000 He'll still have a job.

02:07:33.000 He'll still have his house.

02:07:34.000 He'll still be able to feed himself.

02:07:35.000 A lot of Americans can't right now.

02:07:37.000 Yeah.

02:07:37.000 And speaking of the Jews, with Barry Weiss coming into CBS, I have to wonder if that really is the play.

02:07:44.000 Like, you get a Candace Owens and you get a bunch of Zejus people. 1.00

02:07:48.000 Barry then is brought.

02:07:49.000 I mean, this actually is pretty interesting.

02:07:50.000 Barry comes into CBS as anti-woke and more reasonable.

02:07:54.000 CBS is already correcting the record on the Somali fraud story.

02:07:57.000 They're doing a good job.

02:07:58.000 She already stopped the activists from publishing their fake anti-Trump bullshit. 1.00

02:08:02.000 And she's tweeted that she's a proud Zionist.

02:08:05.000 Could the play be prop up these retards like, you know, Candace Owens saying stupid anti-Semitic shit. 1.00

02:08:12.000 That way, the mainstream media looks credible.

02:08:15.000 Barry Weiss is anti-woke.

02:08:18.000 She's neutral.

02:08:19.000 Is this how they cleanse themselves of the orange man bad stench? 0.98

02:08:25.000 I think it's possible.

02:08:26.000 I think it's possible.

02:08:27.000 I definitely think that Candace is at minimum controlled opposition. 1.00

02:08:33.000 I have a running theory that she probably still works for Daily Wire in some capacity because they all have the same kind of mission where we can't get JD Vance elected.

02:08:42.000 The populist movement needs to end.

02:08:44.000 And I mean, I'm going to be happy to vote for JD and I think it's going to be Rubio in 28.

02:08:50.000 And I don't know.

02:08:52.000 I think we need to, what is it?

02:08:53.000 The movement now is Starve the Grift, right?

02:08:56.000 That seems to be the thing we're all talking about online.

02:08:58.000 And for the longest time, I said we need generals on the field because we haven't recaptured any territory.

02:09:02.000 But we are in a place now where we can start saying, okay, demoted.

02:09:07.000 We're going to lower that voice a little bit because that's not what the main populist, main MAGA movement is about.

02:09:12.000 Yeah.

02:09:12.000 There's a new working name now for, because it's tough because you say like, Groupers, Candace, da-da-da-da.

02:09:17.000 The new working name is the retard right. 0.99

02:09:19.000 That's what I mean the official dub term to kind of capture all of this apparatus.

02:09:24.000 And so what you're seeing exactly what you're talking about is neocons and the retard rights sort of goals have now overlapped. 0.98

02:09:31.000 JD Vance cannot be permitted to take office.

02:09:34.000 And so you have to sit back and say, all right, well, there's something interesting there.

02:09:38.000 Their interests have now coalesced.

02:09:40.000 28 is going to be so ugly.

02:09:41.000 You know, I need to clarify this for the retard right because they keep saying like Tim met with Netanyahu. 1.00

02:09:46.000 Guys, I was trying to buy the Daily Wire.

02:09:50.000 Don't you follow Ian Carroll?

02:09:51.000 Yeah, dude.

02:09:52.000 I went to Netanyahu and said, sell me the Daily Wire.

02:09:56.000 I was trying to take it away from the Jews. 1.00

02:09:58.000 Ian Carroll, he was kind of the OG.

02:10:00.000 Like, you know, Candace did this like Soussaire routine where she was like, I saw this in a dream or whatever.

02:10:04.000 Ian Carroll is kind of the OG version of that.

02:10:06.000 He's like, I saw a vision.

02:10:08.000 You know, Tim's at this negotiating table.

02:10:10.000 Everyone's wearing Yamakas. 0.69

02:10:11.000 But Tim is controlling them.

02:10:13.000 So I think that might actually be the new thing.

02:10:15.000 I think people need to be focused on that.

02:10:16.000 Bro, it was the funny thing.

02:10:17.000 The Koreans are the puppet masters. 1.00

02:10:19.000 The Koreans are controlling the Israelis. 1.00

02:10:21.000 Was it you who made the joke about outside of the ice wall, everyone's Korean? 1.00

02:10:25.000 Yeah.

02:10:26.000 It's true.

02:10:26.000 I'm telling you, these Koreans, these ingenuity of little fellas, we got to keep an eye on them.

02:10:30.000 I don't know what's going on.

02:10:31.000 You guys know about like Greater Earth Theory?

02:10:32.000 Let's pull this up.

02:10:33.000 Do you mean Greater Earth Truth?

02:10:36.000 That's not a series.

02:10:37.000 Not a series, right?

02:10:39.000 Yeah.

02:10:41.000 Let me pull it up.

02:10:43.000 Greater Earth.

02:10:45.000 Sounds like a fun place.

02:10:46.000 I don't want to live there.

02:10:47.000 It's Earth DLC.

02:10:48.000 It's so exciting.

02:10:48.000 Earth DLC.

02:10:50.000 There's like.

02:10:52.000 Let me see if we can find a better photo of it.

02:10:55.000 It's a flat Earth, too, right?

02:10:56.000 No.

02:10:57.000 No.

02:10:58.000 So there's multiple Earths.

02:11:01.000 We've been through many transitions where the continents have collided, water levels have risen.

02:11:05.000 Right.

02:11:05.000 Polar shifting in the market.

02:11:07.000 No, no.

02:11:07.000 Yakub's involved.

02:11:08.000 Yakub.

02:11:09.000 So this is a shitty image.

02:11:11.000 I'm trying to find a better one.

02:11:13.000 So here's the inner continents.

02:11:15.000 This is where we live.

02:11:16.000 Here's the ice wall.

02:11:18.000 And then there's greater continents outside of it.

02:11:20.000 But it's not flat.

02:11:22.000 There are some people that talk about a flat Earth where there's an inner ice wall, but that's stupid.

02:11:25.000 Greater Earth Theory is there's a spherical Earth and there's one small portion of the planet that is surrounded by an ice wall.

02:11:33.000 We are slaves.

02:11:34.000 And the theory is that Atlantis and Tartaria are beyond the ice wall.

02:11:38.000 That's why you're not allowed to fly south of Antarctica because you'd go over the ice wall and then you'd make it to, what was it, Admiral Bird or whatever?

02:11:44.000 So there's like great lands beyond Antarctica or something.

02:11:48.000 So you can actually do the experiments and see the Earth is curved.

02:11:51.000 You can do the camera thing with the lights.

02:11:53.000 Oh, yeah, great distance because it's not flat.

02:11:56.000 And flat Earth is intended to trick people into ignoring greater earth theory.

02:12:01.000 Basically, when you say there's an ice wall, they go, oh, the flat earth, earth's not flat, and I'll prove it.

02:12:01.000 So true.

02:12:06.000 It's like, no, no, no, I didn't say earth was flat.

02:12:08.000 It is clearly round, but we are in a small, here's the sphere, and here's a ring where we're trapped.

02:12:14.000 Why?

02:12:14.000 Because the government realized, as Harry Tubman said, I have freed many slaves.

02:12:20.000 I would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves. 0.89

02:12:23.000 We must be kept ignorant of our slavery.

02:12:26.000 So outside of the ice wall in Atlantis and Arteria, people are immortal.

02:12:30.000 They fly around.

02:12:31.000 They can do whatever they want.

02:12:32.000 But someone has to mine the cobalt and run the shit.

02:12:36.000 That's why we see aliens. 0.95

02:12:39.000 They're not aliens.

02:12:40.000 They're Koreans. 0.98

02:12:41.000 Exactly.

02:12:43.000 You hear all this chatter.

02:12:44.000 And they look the same.

02:12:45.000 You can't tell them apart.

02:12:47.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:12:47.000 The Koreans look like aliens.

02:12:49.000 I'm allowed to say that.

02:12:50.000 The walls of Azwall.

02:12:52.000 And you hear all this talk about North and South Korea.

02:12:54.000 You don't hear much talk about East and West Korea.

02:12:56.000 They're out there.

02:12:57.000 Somebody.

02:12:58.000 Beyond the ice wall.

02:12:59.000 Beyond the ice wall.

02:13:00.000 The scorched wastes, the frozen wastes.

02:13:02.000 The swallow earth.

02:13:03.000 Oh, yeah, the DMZ.

02:13:04.000 The Abyssal Oceans.

02:13:05.000 The DMZ is only in North Korea and South Korea.

02:13:07.000 Well, to Harry Tubman's point, I mean, I definitely realize that I am a slave.

02:13:11.000 I pay taxes.

02:13:12.000 I pay taxes.

02:13:13.000 I wake up every day and I'm like, my money is gone.

02:13:15.000 It's going somewhere else.

02:13:16.000 It's definitely not going to my kids' future.

02:13:18.000 I watch Monday Night Football.

02:13:19.000 I am a slave.

02:13:21.000 And, you know, it is what it is.

02:13:23.000 They made me.

02:13:25.000 Our overlords made me watch James Madison in the college football playoff.

02:13:28.000 That's only what they do to slaves. 0.99

02:13:30.000 I've had to watch the new Barbie movie because everyone was talking about it.

02:13:30.000 Exactly.

02:13:33.000 I'm looking at a picture.

02:13:34.000 I searched for Icewall Globe on X, and I still got porn.

02:13:38.000 Good luck.

02:13:40.000 That's pretty cool.

02:13:42.000 Like, what the fuck?

02:13:43.000 I should call her.

02:13:46.000 There's a picture of a globe, and it's got an ice wall.

02:13:50.000 I can't find it, though.

02:13:51.000 Yeah.

02:13:52.000 Because most of the ice wall pictures are just flat.

02:13:54.000 Well, they're burying it.

02:13:56.000 The brave posters on X have uncovered the truth.

02:13:59.000 What's up with that demon thing?

02:13:59.000 Indeed.

02:14:01.000 The walls.

02:14:02.000 The walls of Asgard, Odin, Atlantis, Lemura.

02:14:05.000 Lemuriosa, Altima.

02:14:08.000 That's kind of cool.

02:14:09.000 Milwaukee.

02:14:10.000 Isles of Amus.

02:14:11.000 Isis and Osiris are continents.

02:14:14.000 Nemo, Magellan's Isles.

02:14:16.000 I got to be honest.

02:14:17.000 I would play this video game.

02:14:18.000 If this were a video game, I would play this 100%.

02:14:20.000 It's a great movie.

02:14:21.000 It's a Magellan.

02:14:22.000 Escape the Ice Wall.

02:14:23.000 The Abyssal Ocean.

02:14:26.000 Yeah.

02:14:27.000 Sounds very frightening.

02:14:30.000 How do we even know that's what they're named, though?

02:14:32.000 because we've never been there.

02:14:35.000 I mean, you don't know what the indigenous people call them, but these are the names that...

02:14:39.000 Those are very, like, Latin-based names.

02:14:42.000 So we that are stuck inside the ice wall.

02:14:45.000 These are the names that we've given them.

02:14:47.000 So I suppose the penguins are actually the guardians.

02:14:53.000 They are.

02:14:54.000 You know, they come across as these like, oh, we're falling over.

02:14:56.000 We're a bunch of idiots.

02:14:57.000 We just eat fish all day.

02:14:58.000 Yeah, until you try to get over the ice wall.

02:15:00.000 Wait till you see the knives out.

02:15:01.000 I'm telling you, these penguins, man.

02:15:02.000 They jump.

02:15:04.000 Jump together and they form like form of vultures.

02:15:06.000 Yeah, the penguins in Madagascar.

02:15:08.000 That's actually a little bit more of their capability.

02:15:09.000 I bet they're not even flightless.

02:15:11.000 Oh, like they can fly.

02:15:13.000 It's like, oh, there's penguins in South Africa, but they just swam there.

02:15:16.000 Okay, yeah.

02:15:16.000 Yeah, right.

02:15:17.000 They all choose to stay in the zoo.

02:15:18.000 They can leave anytime they want.

02:15:20.000 They're there to watch us.

02:15:21.000 Right, literally.

02:15:22.000 Well, that's part of the decision.

02:15:23.000 The penguins are like, they would bring the humans to me to evaluate them.

02:15:27.000 There's literally an entire species called the Emperor Penguin.

02:15:30.000 You don't think that's a little suck?

02:15:30.000 Yeah.

02:15:32.000 Where did that come from?

02:15:34.000 Happy Feet was pro-Penguin propaganda that was pushed down by these elites.

02:15:38.000 Yeah.

02:15:38.000 And now what you're seeing is a lot of people are starting to question penguin power.

02:15:42.000 To be honest, like it would be a really cool video game if it was you play as Alex Stein and you get a single engine Cessna and you fly over the ice wall with like anti-aircraft gunfire.

02:15:54.000 And you're like the opening scene of the game is your Alex Stein flying this.

02:16:01.000 Yes.

02:16:02.000 But yes.

02:16:03.000 Alex Stein builds a blimp with like steel plates that can, no, graphene plates that deploy the anti-aircraft rounds.

02:16:11.000 And he makes it, you have to pilot it over the ice wall and then you land in Tartaria.

02:16:16.000 I love it.

02:16:16.000 And then the video game is literally invasion of Tartaria.

02:16:18.000 You can sell different skins.

02:16:20.000 Like I want to get him with the leather cap with the goggles, like the 1930s.

02:16:23.000 That's what I'm going to do.

02:16:24.000 Going to rescue the big booby Latinas from Tartaria. 1.00

02:16:27.000 Yeah, basically, Alex Stein's dating a big Bulu Latina, and the president of Lemuria kidnaps her and escapes beyond the ice wall. 0.86

02:16:35.000 And then Alex Stein has to go beyond the ice wall, which he's forbidden from doing to rescue his big Bulu Latina wife. 1.00

02:16:40.000 They definitely have like, you know, the old fighter jets have the women painted on the side to be AOC. 0.97

02:16:40.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:16:45.000 I can't wait until AI is advanced enough for me to just say make that game.

02:16:49.000 Yeah.

02:16:49.000 Like we're getting really close to it.

02:16:51.000 Have you guys seen the real life Pokemon videos that they've been making?

02:16:54.000 Yes.

02:16:55.000 It's crazy what they're making.

02:16:58.000 Someone made a Legend of Zelda trailer and it was close.

02:17:02.000 What was really crazy is that the doomsday X-Men Doomsday trailer came out, but it was only in theaters.

02:17:10.000 And so I don't know if you guys have seen it, but some screenshots got leaked and it's like Cyclops going, ah, that's like fucking mess.

02:17:17.000 Somebody took those screenshots, loaded them into, I don't know, GPT or something, and made a trailer based on the description and the screenshots.

02:17:27.000 So I went on YouTube before the trailer was officially released and I saw this video and I watched it and it was weird because it was clearly AI, but it did match up.

02:17:35.000 And I'm like, this doesn't make sense.

02:17:38.000 And then I realized what someone did.

02:17:39.000 With the limited information, they used AI to make what was basically the trailer.

02:17:44.000 We are going, like in a couple of years, man, it's going to be nuts.

02:17:47.000 You're going to be like, make me a video game where I steal lecterns from the Capitol.

02:17:51.000 Move lecterns around the Capitol.

02:17:53.000 Move them around the Capitol.

02:17:55.000 Strategically.

02:17:56.000 No, we should make a video game where there's a lectern.

02:17:59.000 Oh, it's a horror survival where Nancy's like trying to hunt you down and you got to get the lectern from room to room. 1.00

02:18:05.000 He just comes out holding a bottle of stolen.

02:18:05.000 Yeah.

02:18:07.000 When you pick the lectern up, she starts speeding towards you. 0.98

02:18:09.000 Yeah.

02:18:10.000 Put it down and then she stops and then starts floating away. 0.99

02:18:12.000 Yeah.

02:18:12.000 Like you have to boo.

02:18:13.000 You have to move it around.

02:18:15.000 Every room you charge it up with a different power.

02:18:17.000 You know?

02:18:17.000 Yeah.

02:18:19.000 Of course.

02:18:20.000 Once you have all the powers.

02:18:22.000 Schumer is like, he's got big claws coming out of his wrists and he's like, yeah.

02:18:27.000 And once you have all the powers, you're protected from Nancy Pelosi.

02:18:32.000 But the only way to actually inflict hit damage on him is when they're into King Kunta, like Neil.

02:18:37.000 You have to wait for them and then you can get some hit points in.

02:18:39.000 And then when you bring the lectern to the front door and place it on the pedestal, the doors open and you can escape.

02:18:45.000 Once you hit him enough, they put the bag over there, the gas mask bag, and they regenerate that way.

02:18:51.000 Yeah, it's a Dadrenochrome injection.

02:18:56.000 Let's grab callers.

02:18:57.000 We got Luke Greywolf.

02:18:59.000 What is going on?

02:19:00.000 Luke, tell me you're there.

02:19:01.000 What is this weird?

02:19:02.000 I'm on all of them.

02:19:02.000 Let's go.

02:19:03.000 I'm on all of them.

02:19:04.000 Just leave it.

02:19:05.000 It's whatever.

02:19:06.000 I want to take a picture.

02:19:08.000 Hello, Luke Greywolf, professional driver and mediocre artist.

02:19:12.000 Hey.

02:19:14.000 Tonight, I know you were talking about gambling earlier today.

02:19:17.000 And I kind of had a question that's been bouncing around my mind for a while, especially since I have friends that work in investing.

02:19:26.000 From the way that you were describing gambling earlier today, basically day trading.

02:19:32.000 I mean, honestly, I have more control over a poker table than I do over stocks.

02:19:37.000 Of course you do.

02:19:38.000 And stocks aren't WP.

02:19:45.000 At what point are we just going to recognize that investing is just gambling with the middleman?

02:19:49.000 You're paying somebody else to go to the casino with your money.

02:19:52.000 So here's the thing.

02:19:54.000 The problem we have as a country is that gambling has a definition that's not being enforced unilaterally.

02:20:00.000 Gambling is when you back off and there's chance.

02:20:03.000 So you go to a casino, you go to a craps table, you say, I'm going to put $25 on the pass line.

02:20:08.000 Someone else rolls the dice.

02:20:10.000 And if it comes up 7 or 11, you win.

02:20:12.000 2, 3, 12, you lose.

02:20:14.000 And the rest of the numbers are the point.

02:20:15.000 That's just random chance.

02:20:17.000 That's gambling.

02:20:18.000 Blackjack is gambling.

02:20:20.000 The stock market is not gambling.

02:20:22.000 The problem is, what's happened is because of people's perception based on movies and just, it's a cultural thing.

02:20:34.000 They think anytime something can change out of your control, you're gambling.

02:20:38.000 That's not correct.

02:20:39.000 If I buy Bitcoin and the price drops, was I gambling?

02:20:43.000 No, because I can wait and the price will go back up.

02:20:45.000 That's not gambling.

02:20:46.000 You're investing in something for some reason, whether it's a commodity or a company.

02:20:51.000 You have reason to believe the company will be valuable.

02:20:54.000 When you invest in that stock, typically when you have like an IPO, you're buying the stocks that the money can be used by the company to invest and grow the company.

02:21:00.000 You are now a part owner of that company.

02:21:03.000 That's not gambling.

02:21:04.000 That's you saying, hey, buddy, like if I went, Adam, I'm going to give you $100 because I'm pretty sure your book's going to sell.

02:21:12.000 And I want to support you in making your book.

02:21:13.000 I'm not gambling.

02:21:14.000 I'm saying, why don't you do a job for me?

02:21:17.000 You're investing in the house.

02:21:18.000 So the difference is when you go play poker, even if you're very, very, very good at playing poker, you're probably going to be 50-50 at best.

02:21:26.000 No, you're wrong.

02:21:26.000 You're completely wrong.

02:21:27.000 Oh, I'm terrible at poker.

02:21:29.000 Poker is not gambling.

02:21:30.000 That's the point.

02:21:31.000 If you sat down at a poker table, I'm not going to be able to do it.

02:21:33.000 I'm just talking statistical odds of like, if I put it in the stock market, the stock market has a less likely chance to fail consistently over time as opposed to a deck of cards.

02:21:41.000 That cards can be.

02:21:43.000 Got to stop you there.

02:21:44.000 The point of this is that the law they passed says that you can only write off 90% of your wagers.

02:21:51.000 People don't understand that when they say gambling, the law is wagers.

02:21:56.000 Making a mistake.

02:21:57.000 Social poker is not gambling, but you do make wagers.

02:22:01.000 Phishing tournaments is not gambling, but you do make a wager.

02:22:04.000 And the tax law is going to make poker and phishing the same thing. 0.82

02:22:08.000 However, the point I'm making is this.

02:22:10.000 The stock market is not gambling and poker is not gambling.

02:22:13.000 Blackjack is gambling.

02:22:15.000 If you go to a poker table and I say we're playing high-low 20-40 mixed game, are you going to make any money?

02:22:22.000 No.

02:22:22.000 Exactly, because you don't even know what I just said.

02:22:24.000 If I said we're going to sit down and play double board PLO, you're going to be like, huh?

02:22:24.000 Exactly.

02:22:30.000 How can you gamble if you don't know how to play a game?

02:22:33.000 If you go to a blackjack table, do you need to know how to play blackjack to play blackjack?

02:22:38.000 I mean, it's pretty easy, but yes, you'd have to know the rules.

02:22:40.000 No, you don't.

02:22:41.000 You put the money down and say, did I win?

02:22:44.000 That's it.

02:22:45.000 Well, you still have to say hit, right?

02:22:46.000 And the dealer will tell you what to do.

02:22:48.000 At a poker table, no one can tell you what to do.

02:22:51.000 So the problem with this law, I did a 40-minute video breaking this down because no one gets it.

02:22:56.000 And I don't mean to be disrespectful, but people think that, let me ask you a question.

02:23:02.000 We're going to play this game.

02:23:03.000 I love it.

02:23:04.000 If you put $100 on the blackjack table and lose, what are your losses?

02:23:08.000 $100.

02:23:10.000 Okay.

02:23:10.000 If you put another $100 bill and put it on the blackjack table and win, what are your losses?

02:23:14.000 No dollars.

02:23:15.000 $100.

02:23:16.000 They are each independent events as far as the IRS is concerned.

02:23:20.000 You now have a registered 100 loss and a registered 100 win.

02:23:23.000 Oh, we're talking tax code.

02:23:24.000 Sorry, I thought you meant like in general.

02:23:25.000 I'm still net zero, but you're talking taxable events.

02:23:28.000 Net zero doesn't, but net zero doesn't exist anywhere.

02:23:32.000 If you get $1,000 from book sales on a Friday, how much money have you made from, how much money have you made?

02:23:38.000 That depends on how much I, it's the cost of the book.

02:23:41.000 You mean like take home?

02:23:42.000 If you make $1,000 in book sales, $1,000.

02:23:46.000 Right.

02:23:46.000 If you then immediately spend $1,000 on pop-tarts, how much money have you made?

02:23:51.000 I missed that.

02:23:51.000 Sorry, one more time.

02:23:52.000 If you make $1,000 in book sales, how much money have you made?

02:23:55.000 $1,000.

02:23:56.000 If you then spend that $1,000 on pop-tarts, how much money have you made?

02:24:00.000 Still $1,000.

02:24:01.000 It's no different in casinos.

02:24:03.000 But for some reason, people think, no, I made $0 because now I have Pop-Tarts.

02:24:08.000 No, you made $1,000, then you bought Pop-Tarts.

02:24:11.000 Right.

02:24:11.000 You lost $100, then you won $100.

02:24:13.000 You've lost $100 and won $100.

02:24:15.000 The IRS is basically now saying, what it used to be is that you'd write on your taxes, I lost $100, I made $100, and they say, okay, zero income.

02:24:24.000 But you've registered 100 losses and 100 wins.

02:24:26.000 With the new tax law, you can only write off 90%.

02:24:28.000 So now you have $90 lost and $100 gained, even though you actually have zero.

02:24:34.000 So you will owe taxes on $10, which will be about $3.

02:24:37.000 Now imagine you do a sports bet every week with your buddies on FanDuel or something.

02:24:43.000 That $100 that you have, you win.

02:24:47.000 Now you have $200.

02:24:47.000 Next week, you lose.

02:24:48.000 Now you have $100.

02:24:49.000 Do that 52 times, and you're going to have $2,600 in losses and $2,600 in wins.

02:24:57.000 You still have the same $100.

02:24:59.000 Unfortunately, now you owe the government $260.

02:25:02.000 Oh, I'm sorry, you owe taxes on $260.

02:25:04.000 So what I'm hearing is the government is going to tax us more.

02:25:07.000 The government just created a tax on W2G earnings, even if you have zero income.

02:25:14.000 It is one of the first, maybe the only phantom tax where you can be taxed despite not making money.

02:25:20.000 And the frustrating thing is W2G tax forms don't just mean blackjack.

02:25:26.000 It means fishing tournaments.

02:25:27.000 It means golf tournaments.

02:25:28.000 It depends on what the IRS wants to do.

02:25:31.000 So again, I'll wrap it up quickly.

02:25:33.000 But for those that didn't see my 40-minute Tim Pool show about this law, what does it mean to gamble?

02:25:40.000 What is a wager?

02:25:41.000 It is when you put money down on chance.

02:25:48.000 That means you can't control the outcome.

02:25:50.000 So people go, right, so don't gamble.

02:25:53.000 Okay.

02:25:54.000 You're going to enter it.

02:25:54.000 You go fishing ever?

02:25:55.000 Yeah.

02:25:56.000 Have you ever entered a fishing tournament or a contest?

02:25:58.000 No.

02:25:59.000 So, but you know how to fish, right?

02:26:01.000 Oh, yeah.

02:26:02.000 Let's say there's a lake.

02:26:03.000 Let's say that they say, we've assigned you this area where you can fish and whoever catches the most or the biggest fish wins.

02:26:11.000 Can you control where the fish will be?

02:26:12.000 No.

02:26:13.000 Can you control the amount of money you'll win in that contest?

02:26:16.000 No.

02:26:16.000 You're gambling.

02:26:17.000 Legally, that's W2G gambling.

02:26:20.000 And now your entry fee can only be written off at 90% and your winnings are at 100%.

02:26:27.000 People think W2G means a hand of blackjack.

02:26:30.000 The IRS has argued that some tournaments, if the prize is a pooled prize, meaning you're going to win based on, if there's 10 people, each at $100, you win $1,000.

02:26:42.000 Now you're gambling.

02:26:43.000 Can you control where the fish will be?

02:26:44.000 Can you control where on the lake you're going to be?

02:26:46.000 No, you're gambling.

02:26:47.000 Tennis, not gambling.

02:26:49.000 Why?

02:26:49.000 Static, indoor tennis court, same for everybody all the time, no wind, and it's your skill.

02:26:55.000 That's not gambling.

02:26:57.000 Okay.

02:26:58.000 However, they have argued that if a tennis tournament involves a prize pool, prize pools are gambling because you don't know what you'll win.

02:27:06.000 You can't control the outcome.

02:27:07.000 Okay, that makes a lot of sense.

02:27:08.000 It's crazy.

02:27:09.000 Anyway, did you want to add anything to that?

02:27:11.000 Clearly, I get fired up on it.

02:27:15.000 I was just more joking.

02:27:16.000 I have my own investments and stuff.

02:27:19.000 I guess I've always just kind of looked at it as a form of gambling because, I mean, I know I'm not that good at picking them out myself.

02:27:27.000 You know, I'm sorry.

02:27:29.000 We got a comment here from Dirt Stash.

02:27:32.000 And this is what's really frustrating about it.

02:27:35.000 Guys, keep giving this comment likes because I don't understand why for the fucking life of me, people don't listen.

02:27:44.000 There are not 1,000 people in the country writing off gambling losses.

02:27:48.000 There are 10 plus million people using FanDuel and FanDuel will auto-report your wagers.

02:27:55.000 Sports betting is exploding, and there are people in golf tournaments, in fishing tournaments, and this is called W2G tax forms.

02:28:04.000 You are not going to your lawyer and saying, I gambled on a golf tournament.

02:28:07.000 I'm sorry, your accountant, but your accountant is going, this is a wager.

02:28:12.000 You can't write it off anymore.

02:28:14.000 But no matter how many times I say it, people go, who's even writing off gambling anyway?

02:28:18.000 No one cares.

02:28:19.000 In 2027, a shitload of people are going to get surprise tax bills on income they don't have because they either sports bet, which fine, fair point is gambling, but you're going to go, but they're not even writing that off.

02:28:30.000 No, but FanDuel DraftKings, they're going to submit because they're legally required to the tax form on your behalf.

02:28:38.000 Then the IRS is going to say, you failed to file this tax form.

02:28:43.000 Then there's going to be people who every fucking day enter a dog running contest or a fucking dressage tournament.

02:28:49.000 And they're going to say, contests are always W2G gambling.

02:28:54.000 And you failed to properly account.

02:28:59.000 The IRS, you're going to get a tax bill.

02:29:01.000 You're going to be like, I go on a fishing contest tournament.

02:29:06.000 This came up because specifically there was a golf and a fishing tournament that were, that the IRS argued were gambling because it was a prize pool and the golfers couldn't control the wind.

02:29:15.000 So their skill couldn't account for, they made this argument.

02:29:20.000 I think they lost.

02:29:20.000 The fishing thing, though, was they said, you don't know where the fish will be, and no amount of skill will make it so that you can catch the fish.

02:29:27.000 If someone is put in an area where there's lots of fish and you're putting an area where there's not, it was chance and you couldn't control it.

02:29:33.000 And so therefore you gambled.

02:29:34.000 And that meant some random dude who didn't think he was gambling got a surprise tax bill from the IRS for failing to file his tax form because I run a business and we want to hire somebody and they have to give us tax forms.

02:29:48.000 And we always tell these skaters, like when we do the skate night events, we're like, you need to file your taxes because we are.

02:29:55.000 When you skate in our contest and you win your prize, be it 1,000, 100, 300, 3,000, whatever it might be, we tell the IRS, we gave this person W2G income.

02:30:06.000 Actually, for us, because it's a skate event, it is all skill.

02:30:09.000 It's not W2G.

02:30:11.000 It's straight up 1099.

02:30:13.000 If they don't file this, the IRS is going to come and send them a bill later on.

02:30:17.000 For people who are now encountering this W2G law that was put in Trump's Big Beautiful Bill, who aren't gambling, but they don't realize what they're doing is going to fall under our W2G form because the tournament says, I don't give a fuck who you are.

02:30:28.000 We are filing the way our accountants told us we have to file because I'm not paying the flag for it.

02:30:33.000 You will get surprise tax bills and we are going to see millions of people hit with them.

02:30:37.000 Not a thousand people.

02:30:39.000 Anyway, I digress.

02:30:40.000 I love the, I love the reason I talk about it so much is because seemingly, no matter how many times I try to explain it, people go, but I don't gamble.

02:30:47.000 You might not, but W2G does not mean casino losses.

02:30:50.000 Yes.

02:30:51.000 And if you don't write it off, the company will file on your behalf.

02:30:54.000 So did you want to shout anything out, sir?

02:30:58.000 So yes, I'd like to shout out my neighbor, Austin Peterson, who's in neighboring county to me.

02:31:05.000 He's got a daily show on Rumble at AP4 Liberty.

02:31:10.000 Every morning, I think it's like 8 o'clock in the morning.

02:31:13.000 I usually end up listening to it in the evening.

02:31:16.000 But he's even been on Timcast.

02:31:18.000 He's been on again.

02:31:19.000 He's on a hell of a base arc lately.

02:31:21.000 Yeah, he's not a loller.

02:31:24.000 He's a great listener.

02:31:25.000 Right on, man.

02:31:26.000 Well, thanks for calling in, brother.

02:31:31.000 Have a good night.

02:31:32.000 Have a good one.

02:31:32.000 All right.

02:31:33.000 Burt says the IRS isn't going to complain that you failed to write off your losses.

02:31:37.000 They'll just take your money. 1.00

02:31:38.000 Indeed, you'll get a letter in the mail in October, and it will say, we have found income.

02:31:43.000 You've failed to report.

02:31:45.000 And then you'll just get a bill.

02:31:47.000 When the Democrats tried hiring the 80,000 IRS guys, I was like, this is what's going to happen.

02:31:52.000 And it fucking did.

02:31:53.000 Regular people, you get a letter in the mail from the IRS that says you owe me 300.

02:31:57.000 It says you owe us $376.

02:31:59.000 You can't fight it.

02:32:00.000 Nope.

02:32:01.000 I mean, you can.

02:32:02.000 We get sponsorships from Tax Network USA.

02:32:02.000 Yeah.

02:32:04.000 But the issue is if they come at you for 50 bucks, you're not going to call a company to fight the $50.

02:32:10.000 You're going to go, whatever.

02:32:11.000 I guess I'll fucking pay it.

02:32:13.000 Surprise tax bills.

02:32:14.000 A lot of people are going to ignore them because they don't know what it is.

02:32:18.000 And they're going to be like, what is this?

02:32:19.000 I don't want anybody money.

02:32:20.000 They're not, and it's, it's, it's coming.

02:32:22.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

02:32:24.000 There is big scale thing like bigger higher profile events that are going to happen here with the expansion of casinos all over the country.

02:32:32.000 It's going to, it's going to have an impact.

02:32:33.000 But anyway, let's grab the next caller.

02:32:36.000 We've got Asirdar.

02:32:39.000 Is that how you say it?

02:32:40.000 Aseardar.

02:32:41.000 Azardar.

02:32:42.000 Azardar.

02:32:44.000 What up?

02:32:46.000 Hey, hey, happy new year.

02:32:48.000 So let me just get right into this.

02:32:50.000 This is a question from yesterday, actually.

02:32:53.000 So not terribly relevant to today, but you know, whatever they accept me anyway.

02:32:58.000 But it's talked about Maduro's seizure of Venezuela.

02:33:02.000 Do you think this could be part of like a greater plan to consolidate and unify kind of the entirety of the Western hemisphere under American hegemony?

02:33:11.000 Yeah.

02:33:12.000 They said that.

02:33:12.000 Yes.

02:33:14.000 Well, there's a lot of stuff like all at once, like Greenland, Canada, all this stuff in South America.

02:33:14.000 There's a lot.

02:33:19.000 They're talking about it all at once.

02:33:22.000 So it just doesn't seem like you can read about it in the National Security Strategy, which is public.

02:33:27.000 You can just go to the, I mean, I guess if you Google the National Security Strategy, you could read it.

02:33:32.000 And the point is to kind of focus on the Western hemisphere, stop focusing on Europe so much.

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