On this episode of the Bitcoin and Bitcoin Plus Podcast, we talk about the Federal Government investigating anti-fascist protesters in Portland, Oregon, a Chinese spy satellite being used to spy on the Trump administration, and more! Recorded in Los Angeles, CA!
00:02:38.000The DOJ civil rights division is uh launching this investigation because Portland police arrested journalist Nick Sorter after he got attacked.
00:02:47.000However, when Katie Davis court was attacked, beaten, and left with a black eye, they did not arrest Antifa.
00:02:53.000Now I can only just say uh my friends, I've been warning for some time that uh the police in uh in Portland are communists.
00:03:00.000So uh this is not surprising, but it's good to see the feds are ramping things up.
00:03:25.000Um, we we are actually we're thinking about leading with the story.
00:03:28.000Turns out, uh, we were personally attacked by China.
00:03:32.000Yes, so uh the blazes report that that sim site, the fake cell tower network that was discovered in New York was actually targeting, among many others, me.
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00:07:36.000DOJ Civil Rights Division investigates Portland police over response to Antifa attack on Katie Davis Court and the arrest of Nick Sorter.
00:07:44.000For those that missed this, many of you may be aware that Katie Davis Corda, reporter for the postmillennial, was bashed in the head, giving her a black eye.
00:07:51.000Just last night or early this morning, depending on where you live.
00:07:54.000Nick sorter, a conservative journalist, had been attacked by Antifa.
00:07:58.000And when he went to the police to report the crime, they arrested him.
00:08:03.000I said it this morning, I'm gonna say it now.
00:08:05.000The cops in the Pacific Northwest are communists.
00:08:09.000I'm saying that somewhat to be a dick.
00:08:11.000They are far leftists, they are aligned with the left, they protect Antifa.
00:08:14.000Antifa are there under the protection of the police.
00:08:18.000That is why when Katie was attacked, they did not arrest them.
00:08:21.000That is why when Nick Sorter got attacked, they arrested him.
00:08:24.000Now you can make any argument in the world you want.
00:08:25.000Action speak louder than words, but the big news is check this out.
00:08:30.000Assistant attorney general for civil rights, Harmie Dylan has launched an investigation into the assault of Kitty Davis Court and the arrest of Nick Sorter.
00:08:37.000I believe we actually have uh we have this tweet from Harmeet Dillon saying Portland, it's FO time.
00:08:52.000It says, Dear Mr. Taylor and Chief Day, your immediate attention to this matter is required.
00:08:56.000We are writing regarding Portland Police Bureau's response to incidents surrounding the ICE Facility in Portland, and specifically the city of Portland's use of its policing powers in a manner that may be based on viewpoint discrimination.
00:09:07.000Specifically, three issues have brought been brought to our attention.
00:09:10.000PPB reportedly arrested individuals who may have been involved in an altercation, choosing to arrest Nick Sorter, but not others.
00:09:16.000PPB reportedly failed to identify or arrest individuals who allegedly assaulted Katie Davis Court even after briefly detaining the individuals.
00:09:23.000And the city of Portland reportedly has attempted to use its policing powers through a zoning enforcement action to limit ICE's use of its Portland facility.
00:09:31.000She goes on to say, well, we have not reached any conclusions on these allegations.
00:09:35.000We we note a consistent theme in these in these three allegations, all three would choose one viewpoint over another.
00:09:41.000Moreover, the allegations implicate the city's performance under the settlement agreement in the above referenced case.
00:09:47.000They're going to mention uh uh Harmita Dillon mentions more to address our uh compliance concerns raised by these these allegations.
00:09:53.000We request the following by no later than October 10th.
00:09:56.000The original unredacted BWC recording of the officer, body warn camera involved in the uh the arrest of Nick Sorter, the uh body worn camera of the incident involving Miss Davis Court, all unredacted incident reports for Miss Order and Miss David Court, all complaints received about the incidents involving Mr. Swarter and Miss David Court,
00:10:14.000Miss Davis Court, or the decision to target the ICE facility for don't zoning enforcement, all non-torney non-attorney client privileged communications regarding their decisions, all non-attorney client privileged communications regarding directions to PPB responding to those protests, and any any documents or explanation the city wants to provide to the U.S. in response to the above listed allegations.
00:10:34.000Now, it sounds fun, but do y'all think this actually has teeth?
00:10:57.000It's obviously she's talking about Nick and what happened.
00:10:59.000The thing is the police's job is to keep the peace.
00:11:02.000So at the microcosm, they're like, well, the reporter is the is the one that's poking the bear, so let's calm down the take the reporter away and everything will be calm.
00:11:11.000But you have to zoom out and look at Portland in general, and that these groups that may be you know, organized and maybe somewhat peaceful in their pr pretension to destroy, like might actually be the chaotic thing.
00:11:23.000And the reporters that are there might like it's more that Antifa is poking the United States' bear as opposed to the reporter poking Antifa's bear.
00:11:31.000And I the federal government getting involved, I think shows that.
00:11:33.000We have cameras now, we have internet.
00:11:35.000They can't do this stuff in seclusion anymore and just and hide it.
00:11:37.000America, I mean, Ian, uh, we're in America.
00:11:40.000People have a right to their opinions.
00:11:42.000And I don't care if he's poking in the bear or not, I don't care what his opinions are.
00:11:47.000The police officers, if they were doing their job, they should have intervened right away when people were attacking him, not wait after the fact to arrest all the parties.
00:11:55.000I heard that other people were arrested here as well, so I don't know if that is true with what Harmete Dillon is saying.
00:12:02.000Uh, but obviously, clearly we've been talking about this for the last few days.
00:12:22.000So he he knew they'd target him for self-defense.
00:12:24.000See, what people need to understand is that Antifa is a sanctioned division within the government.
00:12:29.000And I mean that not in the hard literal sense, like you're gonna go to the government and find documentation of it, but the police protect Antifa because they were effectively privateers for the city to attack their enemies.
00:12:40.000The Portland police work for the for for the liberal government, which does not want ICE operating.
00:12:46.000They have a vested interest in protecting criminals.
00:12:52.000Well, they can't order police to do it.
00:12:54.000So what happens is through circuitous means, they allow Antifa, protect Antifa, and then say, well, you know, there's nothing we can do about it.
00:13:04.000Then when Antifa attacks Nick, they arrest Nick.
00:13:07.000Because he's interfering with a government operation.
00:13:10.000What about Katie Davis Court gets attacked?
00:13:12.000They don't arrest anybody because those people are allies of the police.
00:13:15.000This has been true for probably five years.
00:13:17.000We watched this when they did the Chaz Chop.
00:13:19.000There was one video where a guy got attacked by Antifun, he was backing away with his hands up, cops pull up behind him, jump out of a vehicle, and grab him and arrest him, and then apologize to Antifa.
00:13:36.000I think it does because for so long, we have seen these groups being completely emboldened by being allowed to get away with this stuff.
00:13:46.000Everybody turns a blind eye, especially under Democratic administrations.
00:13:50.000Finally, now that President Trump is laying down law and order and defending rightfully so conservative voices, I really believe this is a uh I don't want to say uh I do feel that this is actually gonna be set precedent to future moments of this because it has to stop.
00:14:08.000I mean, it's unbelievable the violence that has been being caused against people who are like Nick, just trying to spread facts.
00:14:17.000Thank God for social media, because look at the the video.
00:14:20.000Had we not had that, had we not even had evidence, none of us would even be talked about, and thank God for the movement, because think about everybody who came up to his defense that even it even got to the eyes of the AG.
00:14:33.000I I feel like Antifa needs what I would call a reality check, and this is actually could be a good thing for the movement of people that are actually anti-fascist.
00:14:41.000The United States government is not fascist in the sense of Giovanni Gentile's fascism.
00:14:46.000It was like a it was like a political, it was like a spiritual religious movement of like we are all one, we are all individuals, but we are also all connected.
00:14:55.000We are all one, and the state is the manifestation of that.
00:14:58.000And so we are all the state speaks for us, the state is the greatest force of all of us, and it became this religious zeitgeist in Italy that Mussolini then took and he made gentile his you know minister.
00:15:59.000The point is they don't know what fascism, communism, anti-fascism is, they don't know what antifa is, they've never heard of these things, and they are just there because someone invited them to come down and they don't know anything.
00:16:15.000There was a uh Joe Rogan mentioned this, and I and I uh I I had this critique throughout the week, that he said these people really thought that Charlie was a bad guy and that they were good people.
00:16:44.000And in these conversations, one points out, he'd say, Oh, you know, uh we we people seem to notice that whenever someone comes up to me, they're a fan.
00:16:52.000Because in the actual political space, the people who are apprised of politics know what they're talking about, see me and say, I know who you are, you are Timpool, I'm a fan.
00:17:00.000Liberals see me and don't know anything.
00:17:04.000They so the the instances where I encounter someone who doesn't like me are exceedingly rare in public because the average liberal has no idea what is going on in politics, and you need only look at politics.
00:17:14.000You know, you know who's a great follow when he unlocks his account is Jess Margera.
00:17:19.000Steve Bennon talks about how you gotta watch MSNBC so you know what they're thinking.
00:17:37.000If you turn on MSNBC, they're gonna have Democrats going, we are we are the like Schumer or some Democrat will go, there is no health care benefits for illegal immigrants.
00:17:47.000We are not requesting it, we are not offering it.
00:17:54.000If they actually were telling liberals the truth, they'd say, and the reason is because we deem that anybody who enters the country illegally and then makes an assertion of legal status, we pause and say, this is now legally permitted.
00:18:08.000So the Democrat, the Democrats don't actually tell liberals what's going on.
00:18:34.000The people who organize these rallies and the liberal high priests who communicate and rally them online, know they are lying intentionally.
00:18:43.000Like Hassan Piker posing in front of what kind of car did he buy?
00:18:47.000He bought like a Maserati or something.
00:19:11.000But when you take a look at the uh here's a story for you guys.
00:19:14.000We had uh Naema Trout scheduled, confirmed for the Culture War Live.
00:19:19.000When when we when we reach out to people for this debate, hey, we want liberals, we want conservatives.
00:19:24.000Liberals always say, Here's my fee, because they don't care about a cause making the country better.
00:19:31.000Their whole job is their whole life is here's how many followers I have, here much here's how much money I am owed for this appearance.
00:19:38.000That's why if you if you notice, I'll keep some names out of this, but some of these bigger podcasts, which seem to get prominent liberals on their shows, pay them.
00:19:48.000And then you'll find that these prominent liberals who are now being paid by these other podcasters, change their opinions.
00:20:37.000Who am I to tell you not to take that money?
00:20:39.000But conservatives do it for the love and for the cause and for the movement, and liberals do it for the money.
00:20:43.000So, in terms of these people on the ground that are being antagonized by people I I said that figuratively, who are being riled up by the likes of Hassan or the Krasensteens.
00:20:52.000The only reason Hassan is saying the things that he says is so that he gets more clicks and makes more money.
00:20:57.000And it's evidenced in the fact that he has no consistent logic behind what he says.
00:21:01.000These people on the ground are attacking Nick Sorter, not because he's Nick's order.
00:21:14.000I said, I asked you this yesterday, Ian, I'll ask you again.
00:21:16.000If you were standing on the gallows with one of these guys standing behind you, could you say anything that would change their mind about them about to hang you?
00:22:25.000Max was working for uh the German mainstream media, and they still decided to single Them out, beat the crap out of them.
00:22:31.000Max had to have knee surgery afterwards because they kept stomping him.
00:22:34.000Luckily, I was able to get away with a few lumps, but still, it wasn't a pleasant scenario where they were literally following us throughout the entire city and then following us home as well.
00:22:45.000Let me tell you how creepy these people are.
00:23:36.000So we went to a restaurant and we were like, let's just wait out inside.
00:23:38.000This is they were they were regular people walking down the street, seeing us and then tweeting it.
00:23:43.000That's how psychotic these Stepford wife cultists are in Germany.
00:23:46.000And then they shut down the train systems by uh by blocking all the railroads.
00:23:50.000Then they were shutting down the airport.
00:23:52.000Then they then they were literally marching around just burning cars and stores as they pleased, as police officers literally were just like, yeah, we're not gonna do anything here.
00:24:00.000That's the type of scenario that we were in, is we were literally waiting inside of our Airbnb, uh, trying to figure out if they figured out our location or not, because help wasn't coming.
00:24:09.000You know the reason police wasn't gonna help you.
00:24:11.000The reason I I would only make an appeal to people, the green shirts, the people that don't know on a show like this, is because there's something different about when you're in a the wisdom of a crowd, when they're in a crowd, I would never make an appeal to a crowd.
00:24:31.000Sorry if the screen's green, not sorry.
00:24:33.000I'll just I'll just scoot on in, T-Bone.
00:24:37.000To your point, though, about uh liberals, especially Antifa types being motivated by cash.
00:24:44.000How many of those people do you think are paid activists?
00:24:49.000Because I do feel that so much of this, are there real is this actually not it's not organic as the the left tries to paint it out to find organic.
00:25:02.000I mean are people stupid, stupid people could be hired to do a lot of jobs.
00:25:24.000So what ends up happening is when you want to simplify it for a conservative, and you say, George Soros is providing a lot of the funny, not all of it, but but uh but a piece of it to various NGOs, which finds its way into the hands of of these protesters.
00:25:35.000The left then says, because it this doesn't actually help inform the average person, because then what you end up hearing is like on the ground during Occupy, people going, I wish I was getting a Soros check.
00:25:46.000Two because you know, Hannity and Fox News are saying Soros was paying these protesters.
00:25:50.000What actually happens is during Occupy Wall Street, there was a guy, a facilitator.
00:25:54.000We call these the we were talking about this yesterday, the yellow.
00:27:28.000That's why I like I see guys like Tim and Luke.
00:27:30.000I mean, you've been dealing with these freaks for I mean, well over a decade now.
00:27:35.000And I see this, and then you compare that and contrast that with sort of the commentary class on the right over the last 10 to 15 years, and they're just convinced they can principle their way out of this, just my principles.
00:27:44.000And you two specifically, I mean, have been sounding the alarm on political violence now for a really long time, saying, nope, it's it's here.
00:28:41.000Maybe now those naysayers watching Nick Sorter get arrested after they attacked him and Katie Daviswork got attacked and they would not arrest Antiva.
00:28:48.000Maybe now you're like, oh, Tim was right the whole time.
00:28:52.000Communists can get hired as cops all the same.
00:28:54.000The Soviet Union had had police, okay?
00:28:56.000All of the communist countries, China has police, and they are commies.
00:29:01.000To your point, the what's sad about all this political violence is that this was laid out as early as the 70s.
00:29:10.000And it it's crazy that it has taken our side so long to recognize what they're capable of.
00:29:19.000The stuff has been laid out in Solinski's books.
00:29:22.000They've been laid out in the weather underground, if you knew who those guys were.
00:29:27.000And this stuff is just recycled, except now on a mass scale, I think.
00:29:32.000And it's just like those the print those that was we've known about this.
00:30:07.000So the message being sent with the assassination of Luigi Manja, I'm sorry, the assassination allegedly by Luigi Manjoni of Brian Thompson, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the attempted uh uh the attempt on Kavanaugh's life is that you're gonna get a slap on the wrist.
00:30:22.000You are going to be venerated and praised.
00:30:25.000So just a moment ago, you were mentioning the culture that brought us to this point.
00:30:28.000You've got a variety of factors at play.
00:30:30.000One, these these liberal judges live in a liberal world and they want people on the right assassinated.
00:30:37.000Come on, I'm not playing stupid games anymore.
00:30:39.000When they say to this guy you're free to go, okay, it's not literally eight years in prison, but for attempting to kill a sitting Supreme Court justice, that's insane.
00:30:48.000There are people who are in prison longer than that for marijuana, just having pot.
00:31:51.000I could be wrong because it's not like this thing, there's data to this, but basically what I'm seeing is what I expected to happen.
00:31:56.000That is, many default libs were shocked by the killing and are s and are scared by it.
00:32:01.000And so there have been prominent individuals who have been speaking out in support of Turning Point and for Charlie, despite being what you'd consider default libs.
00:32:11.000They don't play attention to politics.
00:32:13.000So I'm talking about celebrities, athletes, and otherwise.
00:32:15.000However, a decent amount of of these people have gone hard at celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
00:32:22.000So what my my view is, and my prediction for the next year is another I think there's going to be a terror attack or a major assassination within the next year.
00:32:32.000The right coalition has just expanded uh by double digits because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk scaring people.
00:32:40.000But default libs, many of them entrenched themselves in the left cult.
00:32:44.000So I'd look at it like maybe 50% are leaning right with a decent boost, and now you've got 30 some odd percent in the left camp, boosting their numbers from what was what was actually like 10% a decade ago to like 20 in the past several years.
00:32:59.000These people have have basically entrenched themselves in the woke ideology cult, whatever you want to call it.
00:33:06.000That means they are going to believe there's fascists taking over.
00:33:09.000They are going to believe, like Gavin Newsom said, there will not be an election in 2028, and they are not going to accept Republicans winning.
00:33:16.000With the killing of Charlie Kirk pushing a little bit of support towards the right, because it certainly didn't go the other way.
00:33:23.000The Republicans probably have an edge to win in many now, many new locations, potentially in New Jersey, maybe not.
00:33:29.000I'd estimate there's a strong probability that they actually survive the midterms, which would be shocking because usually it goes the other way.
00:33:36.000If the Democrats are looking like they are going to lose in just shy of a year's time, I believe that the entrenched large size of this cult is going to get extremely violent.
00:33:46.000Dude, I'm concerned about false flags, like a foreign operative making it look like they're part of this liberal cult, whatever, and doing another assassination attempt or because it'll break the country.
00:33:57.000I mean, if you look at the first civil war in America, there was other countries that were involved in it.
00:34:02.000If there's going to be another civil war, you could bet your bottom dollar, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea.
00:34:09.000Well, sorry, when you know, when the inevitable happens, um, I I think we're in a non-kinetic type of war, and we see that when people doubled down after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
00:34:21.000Today I I made a video and I said it's a non-kinetic.
00:34:27.000Um I I would argue that it it wasn't just the assassination of Charlie, but the response to it that really kind of woke people up to just how close we are to bedlam and utter chaos in our society.
00:34:38.000And I think it really kind of ripped off the the the face and the mask of the establishment, and now people are finally seeing it to to be as horrendous as it is.
00:34:47.000So this is a make or break moment for America that is going to be a key deciding factor to see where we're going from here.
00:34:55.000I don't I don't see a uh a path away from this because the way I look at it, there are a lot of people that watch this show and watch my morning show, and I'm not right about everything, I'm wrong about a lot.
00:35:06.000But the predictions that I have made have been um let's just let's just say it vaguely correct, right?
00:35:13.000So the the the example that I often give is in September of 2020, I said if Trump loses in November, his supporters are gonna storm the White House.
00:35:22.000They're gonna bust it down, they are not going to accept this.
00:35:25.000I was told that I was crazy, paranoid, etc.
00:35:28.000November came and went, nothing happened, and liberals made videos saying Tim Poole's crazy, he's a he's a conspiracy theorist.
00:35:57.000We are not the biggest show in the world, nor do we reach the most People.
00:36:00.000And while many people watch the show for a long time and probably have probably been saying, I think Tim is actually right about the path that we're on.
00:36:08.000Convincing you guys doesn't change the direction of the river.
00:36:12.000So right now, where we're at is we are cognizant of what is happening.
00:36:15.000We have been cognizant of it for seven years, and there's little we can do to stop it.
00:36:20.000Well, there's sort of an and let the point is this.
00:36:23.000Dana White gave an interview where he said, I don't like cancel culture.
00:36:27.000People shouldn't lose their jobs for what they're saying about Charlie Kirk.
00:36:30.000That is the perfect example of why nothing will stop this.
00:36:35.000Now, maybe I'm wrong because I'm only vague like I say I'm vaguely correct.
00:36:38.000I'm obviously nobody stormed the White House in November, but you get how I was kind of close to it.
00:36:42.000Dana White gave us a great example of prominent, moderate individuals who support Trump do not understand what they are supporting.
00:36:52.000When Dana White says we should allow people to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk, he's saying, I'm not really involved in politics, I'm for free speech.
00:37:02.000A society where it's most prominent business magnates and personalities defend the right to celebrate assassinations is a society headed down the path of Rwanda, which is exactly what happened when people would go on the radio and on the TV and say, other tribes, I think it was the Tootsie's, right?
00:37:17.000The other tribe are a bunch of demonic evil and they got to be purged and killed and mocking them and laughing.
00:37:22.000And then finally one day people woke up and said, okay, we're doing it, and started massacring the other tribe.
00:37:27.000We have opened the door to civil war because we celebrated I don't say we, but this country defended the right of people to go on social media and go on TV and defend the assassination of Brian Thompson.
00:37:38.000Less than a year later, Charlie Kirk was assassinated, and the left is still celebrating it, sending the message that if you're a liberal and you try to kill somebody, worst case scenario, you'll get a slap on the wrist.
00:37:51.000If you are and you go to jail, you they will make sainthood candles for you.
00:37:55.000They will celebrate you and praise you.
00:37:57.000We recently saw a comedy show at a university where in their thank you at the portion at the end, it said Charlie Kirk's killer.
00:38:03.000So when Dana White says this must be allowed, cancel culture is bad, he has said green light for 50 million people in this country to create an economy based on murdering your political opponents.
00:38:16.000Yeah, I mean, it's like you want to irrigate a canal, he's like, just open the damn floodgates.
00:38:21.000Like, bro, there's a way to irrigate the canal.
00:38:23.000We obviously we need free speech, but you also have to be just about how you allow society to warp people's minds.
00:38:30.000Like, but here's the thing about prediction.
00:38:32.000And I've been thinking a lot about are we predicting the future or are we creating the future?
00:38:35.000Like if if I go on TV and say there's gonna be a party on Friday at that place, and then all these people hear it, and they're like, oh, and then they all show up.
00:38:45.000I didn't even so if you say there's going to be a civil war, people are like, oh, oh, and then they all show up.
00:38:51.000Except for the fact that the entire time people have been largely laughing and saying it's never gonna happen.
00:38:56.000I just there is a there is a nuance between telling people get ready and get the be prepared and be there.
00:39:03.000Uh it's sort of so there's like a fine line, you know what?
00:39:05.000You don't want to be fake, and you don't want to say everything's like.
00:39:07.000The people who are watching the show are not going out in the streets with guns and assassinating people, but other people that might be afraid of you, you know, people that hear you and they're like, really?
00:39:15.000Like, I will say from the political side of things that yes, it does in a way, it it does embolden people when they get a slap on the wrist.
00:39:25.000At the same time, though, I do believe that it wakes up a lot of people who have been silent.
00:39:31.000There is a sleeping giant in this country.
00:39:34.000We saw it in this last election, I believe, that people finally got involved.
00:39:39.000And as uh, you know, a candidate and things like that, we get sometimes it's like you want people to be able to get involved into the process because so many people are not.
00:39:49.000But now, because of everything that's been going on, all the hate that's happening, reasonably minded people on both sides of the aisle look at this.
00:39:58.000I think there are a lot of reasonable Democrats that look at the assassination on Charlie Kirk and horrific things that happened to conservatives.
00:40:06.000I think I want to believe, and I truly believe, and the data does show that people are waking up, and there is still this sense of Americanism that whoa, this is not how who we are as Americans.
00:40:20.000This is we have values and virtue in this country, and I do believe that we are seeing the change because so many people are getting involved in the political process.
00:40:29.000You know, I I just maybe anecdotally, but I get messages all the time that are like, hey, look, I'm sick of sitting on the sidelines.
00:40:39.000I I'm not afraid to speak out anymore.
00:40:42.000And so I think for every time that we are, we're living through these really rough times, we do all have a choice though of what our country what what do we want the country to look like?
00:40:53.000This is still our country at the end of the day.
00:40:55.000And there is still a lot of Americanism there that I think is the guiding light to the future.
00:41:12.000I do look, our country has gone through so many more hard times.
00:41:17.000You look at the Civil War, you look at World War II.
00:41:19.000Like we, yes, we have lived in our own gilded age in a in a sense.
00:41:24.000We're now seeing chaos and and all that.
00:41:26.000However, our country has survived tremendous trials.
00:41:31.000And how we survive them were moments like this where we all did come together and we did revive of what it meant, the revival of what it meant to be an American.
00:41:42.000And I do believe, I still believe that everybody, even on our worst day, we are still the greatest country in the world, and we will turn this around, but it takes everybody to get involved.
00:41:54.000It takes people to stop sipping on their, you know, Starbucks lasse and just pretending like everything's fine.
00:42:02.000And and it and I always say this, it will become personal to everybody.
00:42:06.000If it hasn't become personal to you yet, it will become personal.
00:42:10.000Uh whether that is the transgender movement or whether it's illegal immigration, all these policy issues that this enemy within has created in our country.
00:42:21.000One day it will get personal to people.
00:42:24.000And when it gets personal to enough people, are enough people gonna stand up and say this is not this is not where we're what we're gonna do anymore.
00:42:33.000Well, yeah, because it's like I do agree we've been through some tough times as a country, but I think the problem was in the 60s and 70s, like you mentioned with weather underground and this sort of leftist paramilitaries that we saw.
00:42:41.000So we never actually sufficiently beat them.
00:42:43.000I mean, you saw like Bill Ayers and um Bernadine Dorn like advising like you know, modern liberals and these sorts of things, the Obamas.
00:42:51.000And so it's like I agree, but it's part of the problem we're dealing with now is that we never actually sort of successfully put these people away when we had the chance, you know, 50 years ago.
00:43:01.000And now we're having to deal with it again.
00:43:03.000And now I mean, like to Tim's point, we're going into a midterms that look like it's gonna be favorable for the Republicans.
00:43:09.000Um they're losing access to a lot of funding.
00:43:20.000So they're gonna they feel demoralized if you'll back into a corner.
00:43:23.000The prediction market says Democrats are gonna take the majority of the house.
00:43:26.000The only thing that that happens every time.
00:43:28.000The only way that happens, though, we have such a slim majority, and this is why everybody who's listening has to get involved because we have such a slim majority.
00:43:37.000If the Democrats do win, we will not be able to pass anything from the Trump agenda, which has been remarkably better than obviously the Biden administration.
00:43:47.000But the reason for that is because normally in these off-cycle years, Republicans, the people who who we rely on, sometimes unfortunately don't come out.
00:43:57.000And so it costs a ton of money to get people to get out and vote because sometimes we become complacent.
00:44:04.000I don't think that that's gonna be the case this now, especially after everything that's been going on.
00:44:09.000There has been this was a mandate that happened uh with the re-election of President Trump.
00:44:14.000So much bad happened prior to that that I think people now understood the cost and the consequences of not waking up.
00:44:23.000And so I think that we are gonna take the house back, but it takes again the silent majority to get up to knock doors, to volunteer, to contribute.
00:44:31.000Everybody has a a skill set or everybody has a role in this movement to make sure that we do win the house.
00:44:45.000Uh so I have obviously been in politics for quite some time now, and I my original inspiration I always say was AOC, because I look at somebody like that and I looked at how there weren't enough people on the Republican side Speaking out against women like her and other these young women who were completely manipulating so many minds, especially of the younger generation.
00:45:09.000And I'm like, why don't we have a countervoice to a lot of these people?
00:45:15.000And so I was honored to be able to, you know, have a get a lot of support in my candidacy.
00:45:22.000And now that we're running in Florida, you know, people are really fed up.
00:45:26.000They want people who actually care about them.
00:45:29.000And we have even on both sides of the aisle, we've had people in Congress who are not working for the people.
00:45:35.000You know, you see it unfortunately sometimes on the Republican side.
00:45:39.000And it's time that we bring back servant leadership.
00:45:41.000It's time we bring back a representative democracy, which is what we were founded upon.
00:45:46.000Are our your Congressperson is supposed to care about you?
00:45:49.000They are supposed to be a lion for your values and a voice in Washington for you.
00:45:53.000And so for so long, people have been fed up about that.
00:45:56.000I feel like Thomas Massey is doing that, but it's like when you have 700,000 people that you have to represent, I can that even function.
00:46:05.000I can't really represent Tate because he's too awesome.
00:46:08.000Um and I don't know what he's thinking at night.
00:46:10.000You know, I don't know, I can't I can't get into your brains, people, and I don't want to.
00:46:13.000We shouldn't be brain tapping each other.
00:46:16.000So what how do you stand where do you stand on the Thomas Massey issue?
00:46:19.000Are you with Massey or are you against Massey?
00:46:21.000You know, ultimately, uh it's up for his constituency to decide.
00:46:25.000That's not for, you know, I I do I do agree with some of what uh in the past, especially, but I'm a little bit more pragmatic when it comes to everything that's going on from a political perspective.
00:46:37.000You know, there are a lot of quote unquote hills to die on in politics, and sometimes it's better that we do remain united uh as a party in a lot of ways, because when you break out into these factions, which is what Republicans sometimes do because we're just more individualist thinking, you know, the left always stays together.
00:46:56.000They mass organize, they're they're unified all the time.
00:46:59.000I'm not saying that we should, you know, be like them.
00:47:02.000However, I am saying that we have to be, we need to be a party that is on the same page.
00:47:08.000If not, if we are not, if we are divided as a party, then that allows the subversion of the Democrats to be able to infiltrate our party, but also to then be the stronger, to then rebuild and be strong, and then they do what they do.
00:47:23.000And so I think ultimately it's up to his constituency um to decide uh on on how they feel.
00:47:29.000And that's how, you know, ultimately it should play out.
00:47:31.000I feel like with the Epstein style, he's going hard on like release the Epstein files.
00:47:34.000That it's he thinks this is what my people want.
00:47:36.000I don't care about the Republican Party.
00:47:39.000I don't care about the federal government.
00:47:42.000They want the files, so I'm gonna vote to do it.
00:47:44.000And it's like it does kind of break away from you know the party in some ways, because a lot of people are like, hey, I think we're using this data as blackmail against the deep state right now.
00:48:12.000I I get concerned about people marching in lockstep, but I understand your point that if you don't, someone else might.
00:48:18.000Yeah, look, at the end of the day, you have to always be as a representative, you have to do what what you're there because of the people.
00:48:25.000You don't send somebody to Washington because, oh, well, I this is the way I feel about something, which is unfortunately we have too many narcissistic politicians that go to Washington.
00:48:34.000They not only not vote for what their constituency wants, they also are sitting there insider trading, doing whatever they want.
00:48:40.000They never get, you know, they're never held accountable because they always get re-elected, whatever that might be.
00:48:45.000At the end of the day, you should do what matters for your district.
00:49:17.000We need to be delivering on his agenda, which is what the people historically from a mandate perspective voted for.
00:49:23.000So if Massey's uh order comes down to uh release the Epstein list, where do you vote on that?
00:49:29.000I would First of all, I would appreciate that what someone like Massey should do, and what I think what most representatives should do.
00:49:38.000Why don't you take a poll of what matters in your in your district?
00:49:42.000Why don't you take a poll for what your constituency wants?
00:49:46.000And so you have to vote yes or no on the petition.
00:49:50.000It's it's it's kind of hard to organize a scientific poll that will reach enough people in time when these things get introduced.
00:49:55.000Like we know that Massey's been working on it for a while, so it does make sense to be like, Oh, I'm gonna set up a poll in my district, but sometimes you might get something that could move through in like a week.
00:50:04.000Some big political thing happens, and they say we're gonna draft a bill on this, get it introduced by next week, it should be done.
00:50:08.000You're not gonna be able to organize any meaningful poll.
00:50:11.000And any poll that you organize would easily be exploited by people who want to trick you into voting the wrong way.
00:50:16.000Well, and most policies though, let's not forget, are not clean bills.
00:50:19.000I mean, half of this stuff, you have stacks of paper to your point, you have to read over you know uh uh 10 hours, but it's not really straightforward.
00:50:29.000Have you read through Massey's the massive Massy and Rokana, I think?
00:50:33.000Uh I think it's I think it's pretty good.
00:50:35.000It the initial bill that was put forward by Rokhana, I heavily criticized because it would require the release of all the evidence, which includes videos of children.
00:50:54.000So he and Massey got together and they drifted a very, very simple, I think it's like two pages, very clean.
00:50:59.000Release what of the Epstein's uh information that you can without exposing any ongoing investigations, evidence, you know, uh that that would depict, you know, children and women meaning trafficked.
00:51:11.000So I I think uh his bill actually looks pretty good.
00:51:14.000Um Trump has not given us a real reason as to why he does not want it released.
00:51:18.000So were I to be in Congress, I would vote for it to be released.
00:51:24.000I'm not gonna comment on anything until I've seen the the actual bill because if you have an option to release the Epstein list, but Trump tells you no, what do you do?
00:51:33.000I'm not gonna I mean I haven't seen this bill.
00:51:45.000I think sometimes there's so much sensationalism that happens in politics, and ultimately, like why why are why don't we if the constituency wants something to be passed when it comes to economics, the border, things that the kitchen table issues, why are we focused?
00:52:03.000Why don't we focus on that instead of at the end of the day trying to be sensationalist?
00:52:09.000And I'm not saying that this particular situation is sensationalist.
00:52:12.000However, I from overwhelming conversations on the ground, I will tell you the majority of people are focusing on how they can feed their families, uh, why they can't afford homes, uh, what's going on in our district when it comes to hurricanes.
00:52:28.000Those are those are things that really matter to the the constituency and set up some of these people that look at Twitter and things like that.
00:52:36.000And I'm not saying I'm not minimizing it on the internet.
00:52:38.000But you have to vote when you're in the present or you know, you don't show up, right?
00:52:44.000But the issue is that Trump has handled this so miserably that it's actually inflamed the issue.
00:52:50.000There was uh and Dan Bongino and Cash and Pam have handled this miserably.
00:52:55.000And I consider them uh uh Cash and Dan to be well, Cash is a friend.
00:52:58.000Dan, I I know a little bit, he's a good dude.
00:53:16.000Um Dan Bangino could have come out and said one very simple thing that would have made this put the story to rest like that, if he looked into the camera and he said, Guys, we're working on this Epstein investigation.
00:53:51.000You're a weakling if you do, which is just absolutely absurd.
00:53:55.000I'm like anybody who sat down for 10 seconds of marketing 101 would have been like, here's what you do.
00:54:00.000Say if you want to make this the biggest trending story, say this.
00:54:04.000And then they went, You got it, went out on TV and said everything they said.
00:54:07.000I I I think there's a lot of internal pressure from the Intel agencies telling them you're not gonna talk about this, and that's it.
00:54:13.000And I think that really shows us the true structure of power in Washington, DC, because it also highlights how it's not just Trump who's in charge here, someone clearly else is.
00:54:22.000Trump previously helped out the victims.
00:54:26.000There's been some actual reporting behind the scenes that the issue is, and I think this makes the most sense, because this is what I was arguing beforehand.
00:54:34.000It's not so much that he's using this against the deep state or whatever.
00:54:41.000What it is is that as we already saw with the news saying that Elon Musk was named in it.
00:54:46.000It's bad for the stock of these companies to even have your name in any way in it, even if it passively mentions your name.
00:54:52.000There are people who associate with Epstein but didn't go to the island who are going to be named in this these documents as having traveled with Epstein or partied with him.
00:55:01.000And Trump, my understanding is the reporting was Trump said it's going to hurt a lot of people.
00:55:05.000A lot of people are going to get hurt who didn't do anything wrong, and that's why he doesn't want to put it out.
00:55:09.000Yeah, but we have discernment as American citizens.
00:55:12.000And if you're associated, and if you actually did horrible things, you should be held accountable, especially when you do them to children.
00:55:17.000And this precedent of saying, Yeah, you could hurt children, but if you're powerful enough, you'll we'll we'll let you get away with this.
00:55:32.000Because at some point he he crossed path at a party with Epstein.
00:55:36.000The argument is the files are going to come out.
00:55:39.000It's not going to expose who you want it to, but it's going to have names in it of people who have worked like in some way with Epstein or financed him, unbeknownst to them, he was doing these things.
00:56:02.000We're talking about Bill Clinton being on the plane that's children or being hurt in the back, which Bon Gino was talking about years ago.
00:56:08.000Why I'm in favor, and I would agree with Massey and say we should vote to release these things.
00:56:12.000And I put the responsibility on Trump and his team for failing this miserably.
00:56:17.000Do you think that was right, though, from the media perspective to include Elon in that particular article that they did where he specifically fought back and said, This is ridiculous.
00:56:28.000They tried to paint him as this the villain of this story when that wasn't the reality.
00:56:35.000So I I talked about this latest release, and it was heavily biased against Republicans.
00:56:39.000And I said, This is why Trump needs to release it because the Democrats picked out Steve Bannon, they picked out Peter Theo, they picked out Elon Musk.
00:56:47.000Those people should have some answers, but there's other people that were also involved here that are major Democratic donors, major big players.
00:56:54.000And for some reason, we're protecting Bill Clinton, who, according to two sources, knew children were being hurt and was there and was an accomplice to the crime.
00:57:06.000The Epstein files are going to implicate people that are important to Donald Trump for whatever reason.
00:57:10.000He doesn't care if they did good, bad, or otherwise.
00:57:11.000The right wants to win a war against the Democrats.
00:57:15.000Trump doesn't want to allow them in any way to gain power.
00:57:18.000And I gotta be honest, I'm terrified of the of them gaining power.
00:57:21.000I'm in favor of releasing these documents, but again, Trump is saying nothing to see here because he wants power and doesn't want Democrats to get power.
00:57:29.000But he's losing so much political capital and power by doing so.
00:57:38.000There's a lot of people that are libertarians that never voted in this last election.
00:57:42.000They only voted for him that were in the middle because he came out and his staff came out and said we're gonna release everything.
00:57:47.000Barely anyone's talked about Epstein's career.
00:57:50.000Because you guys are you're completely you're completely discounting the fact that the average American person again, we have huge crises happen that were happening that were now being solved by this administration.
00:58:03.000There is more when when you have a family that couldn't afford groceries, you have seniors on fixed income, you have families who whose children have been killed by illegal immigrants.
00:58:39.000However, the obvious reason why Trump is withholding them is because he wants to maximize political power by any means to go up against the deep state.
00:59:53.000Or at bare minimum, he fears that if his release will cause damage to someone like Bill Gates who may actually do something that benefits.
00:59:59.000I wonder if when he went to Ghilaine in prison and she and he was like, okay, first she came out and said Trump never did anything on tort, and then they moved her to minimum security.
01:00:06.000I wonder if she gave him the other part of the puzzle, so now he has all the info for the blackmail.
01:00:10.000Favorable treatment for Ghlaine Maxwell also is a very bad look here.
01:01:00.000Um probably I was gonna make an argument about Ukraine, but what Trump's already kind of being egregious about Ukraine.
01:01:09.000So what are they gonna um try to implement uh socialism?
01:01:13.000They're gonna open the border to 20 to 40 million more illegal immigrants.
01:01:17.000They're going to finalize the criminal charges against Trump, which are still pending, arrest him and put him in prison.
01:01:23.000They're gonna go after his lawyers, they're gonna arrest Bannon.
01:01:25.000They are going to go after everyone like they did the J6ers.
01:01:29.000They they they have shown us that they are capable, willing, and they will do it.
01:01:33.000This is not a defense of Trump's handling of the Epstein files, because my position is Massey and Rokana are correct in doing this.
01:01:38.000I also, however, recognize the underlying motivation that Trump has in almost everything he does is to make sure that he defeats the Democrats and they never regain power.
01:01:46.000Hence, mass deportations and instructing his DOJ to go after these ballot harvesting schemes and mail-in ballots.
01:01:52.000If we defeat them there, they will not regain power in this current form.
01:01:56.000Democrats may win in the future if their party changes and they actually start getting rid of the law fair.
01:02:02.000But I believe, based on what we've already seen, like the arrest of Steve Bannon, like the arrest of Trump's lawyers in multiple states, the false criminal charges, the false rape uh civil uh case, the false uh fraud case in New York, the raid on his home, the 20-year sentences for Proud Boys who weren't even in DC at the time.
01:02:22.000If Democrats win again, they will do everything to destroy you and me and everyone else.
01:02:29.000So that being said, Trump has mishandled this, and by his mishandling, and Dan and Cash and Pam, there is no other position but sorry, guys.
01:02:48.000That's not necessarily what he's doing.
01:02:50.000I think a lot of people make that argument, and it's entirely possible.
01:02:53.000I'm giving a much more simple argument in that collateral damage will hit powerful business magnates that provide resources to Republicans in some way.
01:03:01.000If you deserve to fail because of your associations to predators and your association to hurting children and going to islands where children were hurt, you deserve to fail.
01:03:41.000We know that if they get power, it's gonna go 100fold because we know that they were trafficking kids trafficking kids at the border, and Trump put a stop to this.
01:03:49.000Yeah, Luke, why aren't you more passionate about the thousands of little kids that get sex trafficked and labor trafficked and the southern border?
01:03:57.000Complete silence about everything that happened in the invasion.
01:04:42.000Yeah, if you give me that hypothetical, sure, I guess, but I don't think it's probable at all.
01:04:46.000I don't think that's a realistic exposing the predators in our society who are still out there walking in the streets hurting more children now as we speak because they have the means and the ways and the money and the influence to do so, and we excuse that as a country is is is something that of course we voted against this last election.
01:05:06.000We were going to actually hold these powerful people accountable who pull the strings in Washington, DC, that they were finally gonna have a reckoning because we're gonna stop them from being lawless, right?
01:05:16.000We were gonna say we're gonna be a la a country of law and order, right?
01:05:19.000So you're taking the you're taking the position you're you're taking the deontological position.
01:05:23.000It doesn't matter if a million people die based on your actions, if your actions save one person.
01:05:41.000This is a trolley a classic trolley problem.
01:05:44.000Right now, the reporting that we have is that Trump doesn't want to damage his resources behind the scene by by exposing them in the Epstein files.
01:05:54.000So once again, I am in favor of Thomas Massey and Rocano's resolution to release it because Trump and his team have have mishandled this.
01:06:00.000And I'm not saying it is definitive that this keeps Trump in office.
01:06:04.000I am bringing up the point that you have an absolutist approach where you're saying it doesn't matter what happens, do it anyway.
01:06:10.000Yes, because of how egregious all the crimes are.
01:06:12.000If you pull the trolley lever, you will kill a million people, and if you leave it where it is, you kill one.
01:06:18.000Yes, but that's not related to the You're saying pull the lever.
01:06:21.000I'm I'm saying pull the lever where we actually have a government that represents us, and is it run on blackmail, which we deserve.
01:06:28.000I actually think right now, for the most part, we don't.
01:06:31.000I think the Trump administration winning has routed the deep state in numerous ways and it's exemplified every day in the action, especially with Comey being indicted.
01:07:05.000We all agree here that they've mishandled the Epstein.
01:07:07.000But all of this, though, we have to also remember that that that sentiment from the American people didn't start in the last, you know, four years or or whatever.
01:07:20.000I mean, this and that's fine to ask questions.
01:07:23.000I don't, you know, I don't want to live in this world where you can't ask questions and and you can't be passionate about what you what you believe in and all this stuff, but at the same time, so that sentiment didn't happen, you know, over the last just because of this FBI and this administration.
01:07:37.000This stuff has been going on, if not worse.
01:07:39.000Like I actually I trust I trust these guys.
01:08:09.000He doesn't know he does not handle this.
01:08:11.000Yeah and I think like Trump is also just he he gets really frustrated with people that aren't trusting the plan.
01:08:16.000I know it sounds like a little cliche but it's true and and to be fair to to Trump's point is after the Epstein thing was completely botched, which I mean I'm a Trump guy I'm fully I'm fully willing to admit what it was not handled very well.
01:08:29.000Like the vast majority of Americans are not online.
01:08:32.000They're watching Fox News if you watch Fox News that's why Bondi and Trump are so confused over why there's a segment of the right that doesn't that isn't political sees this and I think if you if they did you would see it in the polling you live in you live in an arco libertarian Bitcoin world.
01:08:48.000We've gone over the polling on the show like 700 times.
01:08:52.000That's where I live coin world and I and I see a portion of the voter base that decided to vote for for the first time and that base and and a lot of Americans even Americans that aren't politically inclined have been talking about this and this is an issue and this is an issue that's very important for a lot of people.
01:09:09.000But it's not important enough for any major pollster to actually consider in a campaign.
01:09:13.000Who's doing all the polls people who have uh still uh uh landlined and are picking up their phones you are completely wrong about it talking about his his team I'm talking about as consultants people like Charlie Kirk what what he was doing and I'm talking about people like Alex Brusowitz Charlie Kirk's behind the scenes was saying release the Epstein list and I agree with that my point is this is not a principal issue for Americans and the polling shows that they mostly don't know what it is.
01:09:34.000Why was Charlie Kirk then behind the scenes trying to work with Donald Trump to release the list right he saw this as an important issue because the young people did believe that this was a duration Luke.
01:09:45.000I think when it comes to Congress and things like that, I think your constituents, their will should matter with something like this.
01:09:53.000So I don't know about the influencer world and all this stuff.
01:09:55.000If people are working behind the scenes, I think ultimately when it comes to like legislation and things like that, again, if it's something that your people are asking about and all that, then okay.
01:10:07.000And then you have conversations, but you don't just sit there and look at what Twitter is saying.
01:10:13.000And I'm not saying that this situation is entirely BS, but there's a lot out there that a lot of it is driven by sensationalism and by...
01:10:22.000by the way the Democrats love this they love when this we gotta jump to this stop giving them weapons just really quick release their list or not yes or not gonna I'm like there's no you're trying like I'm not sure if I'm gonna get a clear you stand on this I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fall for that like that's that's a stupid like trying gotcha question.
01:10:40.000I'm not gonna I'm not gonna it's just I've come to think like I trust cash to lie about the right things and sometimes you use evil to create order and that's how the world has always been and sometimes you just do it.
01:10:51.000I mean if you know I think the only answer you could actually have is I'm not sure.
01:10:56.000Because not giving an answer people are gonna accuse you of running you know sniffing Trump's ass or whatever.
01:11:02.000But if if if the honest answer is honestly I'm not sure I want to see what my well I want to I would want to see what the people my constituency would want.
01:11:10.000Yeah if I got to move we're gonna jump to the next story instead of uh arguing all day four hours on that from the Blaze.com China behind massive nationwide sim farm uh sim farm network that directly threatens American critical infrastructure and uh low um they were attacking me personally you're in the story China launched a international uh attack on critical American infrastructure and personnel is which included me this is pretty crazy
01:11:40.000uh this is wild uh so the discovery of sim farms that threaten cellular networks in New York City is only the tip of the massive nationwide network run by Chinese communist government that poses an immediate threat to critical infrastructure and has led to terrorist attacks including hoax SWAT raids at the homes of national leaders Blaze knew uh Blaze News has learned so DHS located this.
01:12:03.000They say this is uh it's absolutely an act of war, according to a top uh intelligence official speaking with Blaze uh Blaze News, a direct threat to our nation and needs to be shut down today like ASAP.
01:12:15.000Only five of them have been taken down so far.
01:12:17.000Uh let me just read where where let me let me find where in the article.
01:12:22.000So this was the fake cell towers that were used to do uh the swattings.
01:12:33.000It says recently these sim farms are believed to be responsible for dozens of hoax SWAT raids, including a senior U.S. Secret Service official, FBI director Cash Patel, members of Congress, including uh Marjorie Taylor Green, and media influencers such as Tim Poole and Steve Bannon.
01:12:59.000Yeah, I have to wonder too, with the uh a lot of the threats that we get.
01:13:02.000Um as I mentioned recently, I've been in direct contact with the FBI, like actual over the threats we've been receiving because they've ramped up substantially.
01:13:11.000And one question has always been are these actually foreign uh state actors.
01:13:17.000And my argument in response to this story is two things.
01:13:21.000Yes, I believe them when they say China is behind this.
01:13:24.000However, we also have evidence that not all of the SWATs were from the same source.
01:13:29.000And we do have evidence, and we've submitted this to the FBI in the previous administration, that it likely came from a leftist.
01:13:34.000And I have evidence that I can't speak publicly about.
01:13:37.000It would compromise any investigation.
01:13:39.000Um but we have we have uh we have we have evidence.
01:13:43.000Uh additionally when we get these death threats, and then you go online and see the people saying them in videos, we know it's Americans doing it.
01:13:53.000So I do believe that there are foreign actors that are trying to fan the flames by sending us death threats and launching these hoax SWAT rates.
01:13:59.000We also know for a fact some of it is coming from leftists.
01:14:04.000I I know we're getting some of the reporting here, but I haven't seen any kind of because they have a source at DHS, numerous that have confirmed to them, and that's what their reporting is based on.
01:14:13.000So if you trust the Blaze, then you can believe it, and if you don't, then you don't believe it.
01:14:21.000But I'm not saying that it wasn't China.
01:14:23.000It it's crazy to say, but there are there are people in this administration that I have known for years, and I don't think they're lying to me.
01:14:29.000You know, it is the kind of thing where if if an actual American did a SWAT and then you know, Chinese are watching this right now, Chinese, they're they're tapped to show, they love it.
01:14:58.000So you get one crime in America, and then foreign actors are like, let's replicate that and make them think that it's coming from within, psych them out, you know, get them to turn on each other.
01:15:09.000It's so important that we hold it together.
01:15:11.000I think because of this, and uh things like this, it's so important that we as Americans keep cohesion.
01:15:16.000The more that we are divided, whether it's politics, culture, whatever it is, you're allowing an open door for the enemy within and without to completely take their chance.
01:15:29.000And that's been that's historically been the cycle.
01:15:33.000And that's why it's so important that to your point.
01:15:36.000We do remain united and we do uncover these things when they happen, but um it's important that we don't show that we're, you know, everything that's going on, the weakness, you know, sometimes that is caused by again the media, unfortunate circumstance like horrific circumstances that are done by horrific people.
01:15:58.000Um, but uh at the end of the day, what we can control is to remain united as much as possible.
01:16:03.000Yeah, well, I think people like Americans are Americans with the right, are really burnt out with foreign entanglements.
01:16:09.000They hear the GOP, they're you know, these swamp creatures like banging on and on about the CCP.
01:16:14.000And so they kind of roll their eyes and say, okay, this is a boogeyman.
01:16:17.000I mean, this is this story is a good example of like, no, they actually are our leading global adversary.
01:16:21.000Uh yes, they are trying to undermine our country.
01:16:24.000Yes, they are threatened by the Trump administration's efficiency and and and you know their a their ability to uh sort of show strength uh globally.
01:16:34.000I you know, I see a lot of people typically they kind of just roll their eyes at the C C P dooming or they kind of you know hand wave it away.
01:16:41.000But they are legitimately, and they're I mean, the story proves they're they're they have a lot of uh they're making a lot of plays in the United States.
01:16:48.000Well, technically doesn't prove it, it it is evidence because the claims themselves aren't proved.
01:16:52.000Sure, you know, but you know, if this if this reporting is true, it just adds to the list of of ways the C CP is you know, actively meddling in the United States.
01:17:01.000Well, they're the story that I'm reading is talking about how they were uh bot farmers, how they could have capabilities to send out 30 million techs per minute under the type of equipment that they had.
01:17:12.000Uh they had more than a hundred thousand sim cards that were also seized.
01:17:17.000And uh I I think there's a lot more to this, and automatically I would love to see some evidence highlighting how uh China was involved here, because I think there's a possibility for uh a false flag potential too, especially with how just uh angry the intelligence agencies have been within the last few years, especially under the Biden administration against independent media, against content creators, uh, and they have acted against them like we saw with what happened to Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, and James O'Keefe.
01:17:44.000So I I wouldn't be surprised if the swatting actually came from uh inside the house and that China's just being blamed right now for it, personally.
01:18:27.000It's definitely not past the CCP to be bot farming.
01:18:29.000I mean, there was, I think it was during during it's like right before, right during COVID, when Twitter removed like tens of thousands of profiles that were just spamming like pro CCP stuff all the time.
01:18:40.000And it's like um, I mean, yeah, you saw it, you saw a lot of it during COVID was a lot of I guess disinformation, which is a bit cringe, but it's I guess all this to say it's really not past a CCP to be bot farming.
01:18:49.000And and I think in this article it said that this is this specific, you know, battery farming has been going on since like 04.
01:18:56.000I think every government should be bot farming.
01:19:42.000I'm I don't know how involved Israel is with the five eyes, but um I don't know so I don't know why I brought it up.
01:19:48.000That's more of a Can we talk about how the CCP was using uh using Venezuelan passports to that illegally enter our country and why wasn't like can that be more investigated?
01:20:00.000Can we find out what type of bad actors were coming in to our country because of a border invasion?
01:20:07.000I mean, there's so much stuff here that happened under the Biden administration, complete subversion, all these little nuances.
01:20:15.000I hope every single thing is investigated.
01:22:37.000If you knew their intention, but uh they said they're cartailing drugs in, and uh they are definitely have hostility towards the Venezuelan government.
01:22:44.000Somebody said we're gonna invade Venezuela.
01:22:47.000You know, when uh when we got leaked information that they were killing civilians in a foreign country that we never declared war on and invaded anyway.
01:22:56.000Uh that was that was that was terrifying.
01:22:59.000Um But there's legitimate purpose of military use, which is not nation building in Afghanistan.
01:23:03.000So when Trump says we're gonna secure our border, oh look, narco-terrorists are are are are driving in.
01:23:11.000Well, I don't necessarily just trust you, but there is a world of difference between collateral murder when the U.S. killed a Reuters journalist overseas and then tried covering it up, and Trump being like, I'm gonna show you what we're doing in international waters because these guys are drug runners.
01:23:26.000The question then becomes, okay, all right, let I I would like to see evidence of this beyond just the video.
01:23:31.000I'd like to see documentation, whatever proof they can afford.
01:23:34.000But I'm actually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.
01:24:21.000One of them was uh one of them was a furry.
01:24:24.000But honestly, I would love to have seen them let let them land and then take them and take the cargo and show people instead of just blowing up all the evidence.
01:24:34.000Like these are the drugs coming in here.
01:24:36.000I mean, the war on drugs is a farce anyway.
01:24:38.000It's all just the cover for the kind of oil-rich uh nation that Venezuela is, a failed communistic state.
01:24:44.000Uh but there's a reason Trump declared Maduro a drug trafficker and then recently declared war on drug traffickers and how Venezuela is becoming very closely aligned with Russia, China, and Iran.
01:24:57.000And uh now we're flying uh military jets and fighter pilots and and naval assets.
01:25:03.000I mean it's discussion of drone bombing Venezuela.
01:25:05.000Not only that, there's require declaration of war.
01:25:07.000There's practices of land invasion happening right now in Puerto Rico of American military service members.
01:25:13.000So uh I I do believe we are headed towards the kind of whether kinetic or non-kinetic type of war between the United States and Venezuela.
01:25:21.000It ain't just the United States of Venezuela, though.
01:25:33.000That's how the that's what I said, Iran first.
01:25:36.000What why what are they gonna do in Iran, do you think?
01:25:37.000Uh the uh the They're gonna do a regime change and they're gonna probably start bombing sometime soon.
01:25:42.000Uh American uh refueling aircraft is already being sent.
01:25:46.000Gaza's being wrapped up as soon as Gaza wraps up.
01:25:48.000There's conflicting information right now about Trump pushing the Israelis towards a peace deal that Israelis kind of pushing back right now.
01:25:54.000But I think uh I the the vice president and the president just uh retweeted Hamas, uh which is uh very interesting, and Trump ordered BB to stop bombing Gaza.
01:26:05.000So far, the reports are coming in that BB has not listened to him.
01:26:08.000Just like during the time when uh BB was bombing Iran, Trump told him to stop.
01:26:42.000Okay, I'm not I'm not I'm not placing judgment on it, right?
01:26:45.000I'm just telling people, hey, it happened.
01:26:46.000For all this conversation about Iran and the doomsday that we're going to war and all stuff, what what is then your spectrum of going to war and then showing strength in an administration?
01:27:00.000Do you want do you want us to be like Biden that just sat there and everybody just was completely not afraid of us?
01:27:05.000He gave the CIA uh carte blanche to do whatever they wanted to do in Ukraine, and uh he uh did a lot of kind of aggressive military actions as well.
01:27:13.000So uh I wouldn't say he was so what is your spectrum of we're gonna go to war to okay let's actually show people that we're not meant to be F around with and so what is your spectrum of the case?
01:27:31.000I'm asking, I'm asking what your spectrum of a decision by the commander in chief.
01:27:36.000What is what to you what level to you is complete war or sh doing what it takes to make sure that our adversaries know not to mess with the United States?
01:27:50.000Uh that's a very kind of fine line, and I could answer that in many different ways, but obviously you could use the carrot and the stick.
01:27:56.000I think we've been using a lot of stick.
01:27:59.000I think we need to promote diplomacy, and I think a lot of the problems could be solved through just economic free trade capitalism and deals that could be made right now that could promote more prosperity rather than this kind of war footing that we're on that I think is incorrect.
01:28:29.000I just said the stick, I just said the stick and the carrot, and I said it should be a two-pronged approach where we're strong, but at the same time, war should be a last resort.
01:28:56.000It's like we didn't even give the administration a chance to do they have more intelligence.
01:29:02.000They have more intelligence than any of us again.
01:29:05.000It's disingenuous when it's a very important thing.
01:29:06.000So when somebody trusts, I trust the president of the United States and making decisions, especially when it comes to foreign policy and what he needs to do to get things done.
01:29:14.000Why is all of a sudden it has to be sensationalized that we're going to World War III?
01:29:18.000It's like, why even I never even said that?
01:29:27.000Yeah, that that that there probably will be a conflict with Venezuela, probably, uh, with the way that things are shaping up.
01:29:33.000I mean, you don't bring in the military, uh, you don't prep for the invasion.
01:29:36.000You don't send in the the military if that's not an option.
01:29:39.000Obviously, all those options are on the table.
01:29:41.000Obviously, we hope and pray Donald Trump uh makes the decision that's going to bring peace, not war.
01:29:46.000You're also assuming that these pe that's that people that terrorists in particular are are gonna come to the negotiating table when it comes to economic sanctions and things like that.
01:29:56.000Sometimes they don't intelligence just bomb them, just bomb everyone and start wars.
01:30:32.000I'm saying we have been at war for if I say that I agreed with the commander in chief's decision that ultimately.
01:30:39.000I think you're gonna say that regardless, no matter what the issue is, uh because you're running as a politician and and I'm not I'm running as a a servant to my district that overwhelmingly overwhelmingly supported President Trump and supports his decision as commander in chief.
01:30:55.000I'm uh if if we have intelligence that a foreign adversary is directly impacting the United States and Americans and our interests, why why shouldn't the commander in chief then make a give us an example a logical decision to then do what he has to do?
01:31:55.000It inflamed tensions and it stopped the negotiations happening in Russia right now.
01:31:59.000The deals that were supposed to be made, Putin was watching the negotiations and said, do not bomb Iran.
01:32:05.000He saw the bad faith actors in those negotiations, and and it affected the negotiations with Ukraine.
01:32:10.000So you can't say it had no effect, everything's fine when there we're still very close towards another war with Iran.
01:32:16.000China is now becoming closely aligned with Iran and now Venezuela, and we are becoming and going on this kind of trajectory that we should be using diplomacy that that would be a lot to do.
01:32:33.000But also, but they're coming even closer and becoming more on a war footing.
01:32:37.000And now more war equipment is being is being shared, and now we're all we're we're being brought closer to this type of bigger conflict, which I think we should be doing everything to avoid.
01:32:46.000Do you think in any case showing a show of strength is necessary?
01:33:39.000We just sacrifice some children at the altar of the military industrial complex, and then as soon as we sacrifice Timolik and the demons out there.
01:33:58.000That and I don't believe that all these these situ the decisions from the commander-in-chief, given the intelligence that he receives that is again above all of our pay grades here, ultimately he makes a decision that doesn't lead to war.
01:34:14.000That doesn't fuel the military industrial complex.
01:34:16.000Believe me, I'm the wife of a veteran who who served in the global war on terror.
01:34:20.000I'm completely against the military industrial complex.
01:34:23.000However, I'm not against peace through strength, which is a cornerstone of American foreign policy.
01:34:56.000But a lot of the times, a lot of wars were prevented because of negotiation.
01:34:59.000Since the end of World War II, the peace came out from our rich.
01:35:03.000So if you believe in negotiation, then why are you upset that President Trump re-tw that reinstated the how you said you're making that up out of your own head?
01:35:17.000Luke, you gotta flex a little more, baby.
01:35:19.000No, see gunboat diplomacy was this decision by late 1800s, sometime where they're like, we're gonna roll up our ships on the coast to the park them right in front of the city and be like, now you're gonna do some diplomacy with us.
01:35:30.000There's a reason why so many people voted for Donald Trump when he, even when he was talking to you directly, Tim, he was like, Yeah, why are we involved in Yemen?
01:35:38.000We should be taking care of our own problems at home.
01:35:41.000So if you're arguing, yes, we have to be the world police, yes, we have to bomb countries for peace.
01:35:47.000That is a ridiculous idiot notion that doesn't make any sense, doesn't add up when we have clear priorities here at home that need to be prioritized because guess what?
01:35:57.000Abdullah with flip-flops in Iran is not my enemy.
01:36:01.000Okay, but you're clearly putting you're putting words in my mouth that I'm for being with the wheel.
01:36:05.000No, no, no, you're like we need peace through strength.
01:36:07.000We need to do this, and we need problems.
01:36:08.000We need to spend all this on the we're spending records.
01:36:11.000We are in debt up to our ears because of the military-industrial complex.
01:36:15.000How much money are we just wasting away, throwing away Deutsche and Elon Musk could have never gone to the Pentagon and audited them?
01:36:23.000Why can't we have an audit from all the contracts, from all the nonsense, from all the malfeasants, from all of these people robbing us blinds unless it doesn't look like someone has to sacrifice children at the altar of mom?
01:37:22.000No, no, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna I'm gonna leverage, I'm gonna go to Qatar and be a lie, hey man, Israel give me seven for pro-Israel.
01:37:27.000What are you gonna give me for a eight and a half?
01:38:25.000No, but let me tell, yes, I have supported President Trump since 2015.
01:38:28.000But I will tell you, people like you make it hard because you want to have a substantive conversation, but yet you sit there and say, You're completely twisting my words.
01:38:51.000I think Catalina's gonna get a mass amount of donations after she claimed you had Trump derangement syndrome because the chance is blown up like Catalina for Congress.com.
01:39:06.000When I definitely want to let you point that out when when Trump was running in those early days and saying we never should have been there, we never he was ignorant to a lot of geopolitical strategy of taking the the Suez Canal, holding it, using Israeli nuclear force, you know, eradicating radical Islam and whatever that means, whether or not you agree with that.
01:39:22.000But when you get into office, now you're like, oh, I have to decide who lives and who dies.
01:40:35.000So we have an update for you guys for the Culture War Live event, which is coming up in a couple of weeks.
01:40:39.000We had booked Naema Trout, who uh is notable because she debated Charlie Kirk on Jubilee.
01:40:46.000She had agreed to come on the show in exchange for 500.
01:40:49.000This is the Culture War Live ticketed stage event.
01:40:52.000We have never offered money for Timcast IRL.
01:40:55.000We have been offered money, we have turned it down every time.
01:40:57.000We do not offer money to appear on any of the shows that I do.
01:41:01.000Naima was invited to come on the debate show about dating, and she said, how much?
01:41:06.000So uh apparently she had negotiated, her team had negotiated with Alex, not someone from our team, and she was offered $500, and we never pay.
01:41:17.000We do this because we're trying to it's for the cause for an impact.
01:41:21.000They came back to me uh to our team yesterday saying she had received an offer for 5,000 and would be backing out of the event unless we could match or offer more.
01:41:30.000To which we responded, no, we can't do that.
01:41:35.000If I was asked to go to an event and I said, sure, I'll do it, whatever.
01:41:38.000And then like a week later, someone said, Tim, we're gonna pay you to do another event.
01:41:42.000I'd hit him up and be like, guys, look, I gotta take the money.
01:41:44.000Sorry, like it's a paid gig versus So I'm not completely bent about that.
01:41:48.000But it is a reality that conservatives never ask for money.
01:41:51.000I think to be fair, 0%, it might be 0.01%, because we may have had one personality who's not a conservative, but is a prominent, it's like a celebrity who kind of agrees with Trump.
01:42:04.000So anyway, here's what ends up happening.
01:42:17.000She is a uh liberal uh personality, tweeted 10,000 likes, and I'll post screenshots of Tim's team offering me money to collab with him.
01:42:25.000I love the word collab because that literally never happened.
01:42:29.000I don't collab, but I guess semantics.
01:42:32.000People who are invited to come on the culture war debate show.
01:42:35.000Um, which I will also add, I wouldn't be there as we already announced I wouldn't be for security reasons, and we don't know yet if I will be there.
01:42:43.000She said 10,000 likes, and I'll post screenshots of Tim's team offering me money.
01:42:47.000And this just so beautifully exemplifies the point.
01:44:48.000Someone said just a little bit of a channel.
01:44:53.000But uh, no, it looks like I believe in freedom and and and uh you know personal responsibility, something that politicians usually don't know.
01:45:02.000What something that politicians usually don't know much about.
01:45:05.000What do we not know about freedom and personal responsibility?
01:45:08.000Have you guys ever fallen into that place where you just decide I'm gonna start lying now, and then you kind of just justify it for yourself and you become that person?
01:45:15.000No, you'd be a liberal if that was the case because there's easy money.
01:45:17.000Yeah, I've waved through that state of mind, and that's what's happening to these people.
01:45:57.000I think it's it's actually, you know, no matter how much uh someone likes to argue here, it's it I'm really grateful that you have people on and people like myself, you know, we're really honored to be able to have a platform and to to for you to invite us on and and to have these dialogues and this conversation because you're we're reaching an audience that you know we might not normally and so I'm so thank you.
01:46:22.000But and I'm really insulted that people ask you for money to be on here.
01:46:26.000There are uh some prominent podcasts that pay people to come on the show, and we don't do that.
01:46:31.000We won't give people money to come on Tim Cast Ira.
01:46:33.000We've talked about it, like if there is a celebrity who's not a political figure, and we want them to comment on something, but we're like that's what culture war is for.
01:46:42.000Because if they're not a news, if not a person who's in politics and news and doesn't know what's going on, we get specialists sometimes on the show who will be like, you know, we had like um white coat way uh white coat waste project, and they're not news guys, they're specialists, so they don't have a lot to say on like politics of Yemen, you know what I mean?
01:47:00.000So we try to reserve that stuff for culture war.
01:47:03.000The only culture war events we've actually offered money for is literally this one time for uh Naima.
01:47:09.000Because it is a stage event, we've talked about it, and I said, Well, it's not the same thing as asking someone to come and sit down and have a conversation.
01:47:15.000We're asking them to be in public with an audience, selling tickets.
01:47:19.000So I think it's fair that the people who do request some kind of compensation, we we would offer something.
01:47:24.000But uh Kat Tim didn't ask for money, Myron didn't ask for money, Michael Malice didn't ask for money.
01:47:50.000Uh but uh I I I think it's it's important to have these discussions that I'm here because I love these discussions, and I think it's important to discuss.
01:47:58.000I think it's important because it's important to ask questions.
01:48:11.000Like Hassan Piker, his opinion's for sale.
01:48:13.000Hassan Piker is simultaneously pro and anti-military industrial complexes, but it just makes no sense.
01:48:18.000He's like, we should be cutting off Israel because the military industrial complex in the Middle East, but we should be giving it to Ukraine.
01:49:48.000My point is you don't go on your show, mock people and praise uh mock people who who just uh uh who whose friend just was murdered, praise the assassinations after you suffered criminal charges.
01:50:01.000I think I don't know the full full details, where your kid is going online and insulting you and your wife left you, and then you say, Hey guys, I'm gonna go stand in public.
01:50:23.000So when it comes to the financial incentive, when you come on here, especially like as a candidate, this is just from my perspective, right?
01:50:31.000Or anybody, you're subjecting yourself to a if somebody disagrees with you, horrible, you know, comments.
01:50:38.000I don't even want to see the comment section here.
01:50:41.000There, you're subjecting yourself to vulnerability in terms of anybody can take a clip and or misconstrue what you're trying to say, manipulate what you're trying to say when that's not actually what you're trying to say.
01:50:53.000There's a huge liability in doing that, yet people still come on here to have these discussions because that's worth the ultimate backlash.
01:51:01.000Do you think in their mind they think that it's only worth to come on?
01:51:05.000I'm not saying it's not right, but with when there's a financial incentive because you're putting yourself in that I guarantee you there is a number I can give most liberals where they will change their opinions in two seconds.
01:51:20.000I would so and I say this of 90% of conservatives, because that thing's absolute, because some so the way the way I put it is 90% of liberals are grifters, 90% of conservatives are honest to their to their mission.
01:51:30.000That means you can find some conservatives.
01:51:32.000But I guarantee you, if I went to anybody in the turning point building and said, I would give you 100,000 right now, cash, here you go, suitcase.
01:51:41.000All you need to do is I'm gonna film a video of you renouncing Christ.
01:51:47.000But I know that I can go to liberals, a good majority, may the to be fair, some of them may weigh a hundred thousand against their you know multi-million dollar enterprise and say no.
01:51:57.000But the average one of the mill liberal who's like wanting to come on the show, I bet if I said give you a hundred grand to be conservative, they'd go.
01:52:05.000Yeah, because you've got like two years of money for the guy making 50k, and he's like, all I gotta say is some lie, and then I can spend the next couple years making up for it.
01:52:12.000Because they don't actually believe in what they say.
01:52:15.000There's no principle in there, what they believe.
01:52:18.000So I fell to Hollywood working in the entertainment industry.
01:52:20.000Yeah, the whole industry's built around that.
01:52:22.000Say, sell this product, say it's good for you, even though you know it's not.
01:52:26.000We're gonna grab some super chats because we went long because that's what we do sometimes.
01:52:31.000And it's Friday, and we're having fun and we're screaming at each other.
01:52:33.000But uh, let's grab some of your super chats and let's see.
01:53:26.000I I think about lately how how you create order by using evil once in a while, and then you repent along the way.
01:53:33.000But and and this power of blackmail, this level of power that you could exert over big money, and you know big money's the problem, the Swiss banks, bank for international settlements.
01:53:42.000I mean, if you've got if you've got dirt on those guys and you can somehow circumvent the uh the World Economic Forum's attempt at turning this into a corporatocracy, you know the uh basically every super chat is anti-luke.
01:53:57.000They're just criticism that I like uh Luke is wrong, Luke is wrong with his own.
01:54:01.000I love constructive criticism, and I love to have these debates, so let's do it.
01:54:04.000Not a bot says Luke would burn down the country to get the Epstein list.
01:54:10.000Uh Fallen Angel says, Luke, justice takes time for it to work, so it won't crumble under examination, especially with the corrupt judges in the court system.
01:56:12.000Women belong in the kitchen and in Congress, okay.
01:56:16.000What do you think about Anna Paulina Luna's bill to allow uh mothers to work remote vote remote from Congress if they have babies uh Anna's a great friend of mine.
01:56:26.000Um, you know, that's that's an interesting one, and I'll tell you why.
01:56:31.000You know, the argument to that was against it, rather was well, we women ha you know, women have to work and and things like that.
01:56:38.000Well, she like for a as a mother, she had to literally go to DC every week when she had a a newborn.
01:56:46.000What if you have a child that has an issue with quit.
01:56:52.000You're gonna you're gonna lose a lion like like Anna over something.
01:56:59.000If you if you want to open the door to Congress remote voting under the Civil Rights Act, then the Democrats are gonna say, then you have to allow everyone to vote remote no matter what, and then Congress disappears.
01:57:08.000There should be a balance, and there was a balance in that particular provision.
01:59:32.000The idea of the thing is that anyone would dare say I should get a special class provision to vote remotely, is so shockingly offensive to me.
01:59:43.000I think she's a great member of Congress, one of the best.
01:59:45.000But if you're gonna stand up there and be like, I should get to work remote, the the title wave of corruption that opens for her personal issue is so shockingly offensive to me.
01:59:56.000My response is how dare you go into Congress and say, I had a baby, so I'm gonna vote on bills remotely when we already have a problem of Congress not showing up and spending most of their time fundraising instead of doing their jobs.
02:00:08.000It's more that's why Congress approval writing is like 13%.
02:00:10.000It's more offensive to s to me to lose a lion like Anna over something that she felt so passionate about.
02:00:20.000You're out of all the members of Congress, she's one of the few people who actually sit there and fight for the American people every single day on a national platform.
02:00:28.000She defends the president, she does her job more than you know, more than 90% of the representatives right now.
02:00:35.000No, I don't want some loser from uh a member of Congress that does absolutely nothing, sits there lining in their pocketbooks, doing whatever they want, and and being silent on the issues that matter, be in Congress and get a baby.
02:00:56.000That was a particular issue that she was passionate about.
02:00:58.000And she was wrong and it's shockingly offensive that she would dare try.
02:01:00.000But to say, okay, well, I think it's shockingly offensive that we would completely disregard somebody like her over everything that she has done.