Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump DOJ Announces INTERVENTION In Portland Over Nick Sortor Arrest | Timcast IRL

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00:02:34.000 The federal government is investigating Portland.

00:02:37.000 Oh man, this is gonna be huge.

00:02:38.000 The DOJ civil rights division is uh launching this investigation because Portland police arrested journalist Nick Sorter after he got attacked.

00:02:47.000 However, when Katie Davis court was attacked, beaten, and left with a black eye, they did not arrest Antifa.

00:02:53.000 Now I can only just say uh my friends, I've been warning for some time that uh the police in uh in Portland are communists.

00:03:00.000 So uh this is not surprising, but it's good to see the feds are ramping things up.

00:03:04.000 We'll be talking about that.

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00:07:32.000 Anyway, let's talk about the news.

00:07:34.000 We've got this story from the postmillennial.

00:07:36.000 DOJ Civil Rights Division investigates Portland police over response to Antifa attack on Katie Davis Court and the arrest of Nick Sorter.

00:07:44.000 For those that missed this, many of you may be aware that Katie Davis Corda, reporter for the postmillennial, was bashed in the head, giving her a black eye.

00:07:51.000 Just last night or early this morning, depending on where you live.

00:07:54.000 Nick sorter, a conservative journalist, had been attacked by Antifa.

00:07:58.000 And when he went to the police to report the crime, they arrested him.

00:08:02.000 I'm gonna say I've said it before.

00:08:03.000 I said it this morning, I'm gonna say it now.

00:08:05.000 The cops in the Pacific Northwest are communists. 0.99

00:08:09.000 I'm saying that somewhat to be a dick. 0.98

00:08:11.000 They are far leftists, they are aligned with the left, they protect Antifa. 0.98

00:08:14.000 Antifa are there under the protection of the police.

00:08:18.000 That is why when Katie was attacked, they did not arrest them.

00:08:21.000 That is why when Nick Sorter got attacked, they arrested him.

00:08:24.000 Now you can make any argument in the world you want.

00:08:25.000 Action speak louder than words, but the big news is check this out.

00:08:30.000 Assistant attorney general for civil rights, Harmie Dylan has launched an investigation into the assault of Kitty Davis Court and the arrest of Nick Sorter.

00:08:37.000 I believe we actually have uh we have this tweet from Harmeet Dillon saying Portland, it's FO time.

00:08:44.000 Buckle up. 0.96

00:08:45.000 And then we have this letter published by Harmie Dillon saying Portland signed, sealed, and delivered.

00:08:51.000 I'll just read some of this.

00:08:52.000 It says, Dear Mr. Taylor and Chief Day, your immediate attention to this matter is required.

00:08:56.000 We are writing regarding Portland Police Bureau's response to incidents surrounding the ICE Facility in Portland, and specifically the city of Portland's use of its policing powers in a manner that may be based on viewpoint discrimination.

00:09:07.000 Specifically, three issues have brought been brought to our attention.

00:09:10.000 PPB reportedly arrested individuals who may have been involved in an altercation, choosing to arrest Nick Sorter, but not others.

00:09:16.000 PPB reportedly failed to identify or arrest individuals who allegedly assaulted Katie Davis Court even after briefly detaining the individuals.

00:09:23.000 And the city of Portland reportedly has attempted to use its policing powers through a zoning enforcement action to limit ICE's use of its Portland facility.

00:09:31.000 She goes on to say, well, we have not reached any conclusions on these allegations.

00:09:35.000 We we note a consistent theme in these in these three allegations, all three would choose one viewpoint over another.

00:09:41.000 Moreover, the allegations implicate the city's performance under the settlement agreement in the above referenced case.

00:09:47.000 They're going to mention uh uh Harmita Dillon mentions more to address our uh compliance concerns raised by these these allegations.

00:09:53.000 We request the following by no later than October 10th.

00:09:56.000 The original unredacted BWC recording of the officer, body warn camera involved in the uh the arrest of Nick Sorter, the uh body worn camera of the incident involving Miss Davis Court, all unredacted incident reports for Miss Order and Miss David Court, all complaints received about the incidents involving Mr. Swarter and Miss David Court,

00:10:14.000 Miss Davis Court, or the decision to target the ICE facility for don't zoning enforcement, all non-torney non-attorney client privileged communications regarding their decisions, all non-attorney client privileged communications regarding directions to PPB responding to those protests, and any any documents or explanation the city wants to provide to the U.S. in response to the above listed allegations.

00:10:34.000 Now, it sounds fun, but do y'all think this actually has teeth?

00:10:39.000 Or it's just talk.

00:10:40.000 Drew Hernandez pointed out that she misspelled Nick's name.

00:10:43.000 She he she spelled it sorter with S-O-R-T-E-R in the first frame for sure. 0.99

00:10:48.000 I don't I didn't read through all of it at the bottom there.

00:10:49.000 You'll see his name's Portland.

00:10:50.000 I don't know if that makes she has to reissue this.

00:10:53.000 It's just a I don't think so.

00:10:54.000 Yeah, and I don't know that it really matters because she called a harmless error.

00:10:56.000 Right.

00:10:57.000 It's obviously she's talking about Nick and what happened.

00:10:59.000 The thing is the police's job is to keep the peace.

00:11:02.000 So at the microcosm, they're like, well, the reporter is the is the one that's poking the bear, so let's calm down the take the reporter away and everything will be calm.

00:11:11.000 But you have to zoom out and look at Portland in general, and that these groups that may be you know, organized and maybe somewhat peaceful in their pr pretension to destroy, like might actually be the chaotic thing.

00:11:23.000 And the reporters that are there might like it's more that Antifa is poking the United States' bear as opposed to the reporter poking Antifa's bear.

00:11:31.000 And I the federal government getting involved, I think shows that.

00:11:33.000 We have cameras now, we have internet.

00:11:35.000 They can't do this stuff in seclusion anymore and just and hide it.

00:11:37.000 America, I mean, Ian, uh, we're in America.

00:11:40.000 People have a right to their opinions.

00:11:42.000 And I don't care if he's poking in the bear or not, I don't care what his opinions are.

00:11:45.000 He has a right to report from there.

00:11:47.000 The police officers, if they were doing their job, they should have intervened right away when people were attacking him, not wait after the fact to arrest all the parties.

00:11:55.000 I heard that other people were arrested here as well, so I don't know if that is true with what Harmete Dillon is saying.

00:12:02.000 Uh, but obviously, clearly we've been talking about this for the last few days.

00:12:05.000 This has always been going on.

00:12:08.000 People get attacked, you defend yourself, because I think Nick admitted to trying to swing back as well. 0.80

00:12:13.000 Uh, and then you get uh arrested for disorderly conduct, which is ridiculous.

00:12:17.000 Nick tweeted the night before that if he gets attacked and defends himself, he'll be arrested.

00:12:21.000 Yeah.

00:12:22.000 So he he knew they'd target him for self-defense.

00:12:24.000 See, what people need to understand is that Antifa is a sanctioned division within the government.

00:12:29.000 And I mean that not in the hard literal sense, like you're gonna go to the government and find documentation of it, but the police protect Antifa because they were effectively privateers for the city to attack their enemies.

00:12:40.000 The Portland police work for the for for the liberal government, which does not want ICE operating.

00:12:46.000 They have a vested interest in protecting criminals.

00:12:49.000 How do they get rid of ICE?

00:12:51.000 How do they obstruct ICE?

00:12:52.000 Well, they can't order police to do it.

00:12:54.000 So what happens is through circuitous means, they allow Antifa, protect Antifa, and then say, well, you know, there's nothing we can do about it.

00:13:04.000 Then when Antifa attacks Nick, they arrest Nick.

00:13:07.000 Why?

00:13:07.000 Because he's interfering with a government operation.

00:13:10.000 What about Katie Davis Court gets attacked? 0.95

00:13:12.000 They don't arrest anybody because those people are allies of the police.

00:13:15.000 This has been true for probably five years.

00:13:17.000 We watched this when they did the Chaz Chop. 0.97

00:13:19.000 There was one video where a guy got attacked by Antifun, he was backing away with his hands up, cops pull up behind him, jump out of a vehicle, and grab him and arrest him, and then apologize to Antifa.

00:13:29.000 And that was in Seattle.

00:13:30.000 We know this is what's happening.

00:13:31.000 The feds need to go in. 1.00

00:13:33.000 So I hope this has real teeth.

00:13:36.000 I think it does because for so long, we have seen these groups being completely emboldened by being allowed to get away with this stuff.

00:13:46.000 Everybody turns a blind eye, especially under Democratic administrations.

00:13:50.000 Finally, now that President Trump is laying down law and order and defending rightfully so conservative voices, I really believe this is a uh I don't want to say uh I do feel that this is actually gonna be set precedent to future moments of this because it has to stop.

00:14:08.000 I mean, it's unbelievable the violence that has been being caused against people who are like Nick, just trying to spread facts.

00:14:17.000 Thank God for social media, because look at the the video.

00:14:20.000 Had we not had that, had we not even had evidence, none of us would even be talked about, and thank God for the movement, because think about everybody who came up to his defense that even it even got to the eyes of the AG.

00:14:33.000 I I feel like Antifa needs what I would call a reality check, and this is actually could be a good thing for the movement of people that are actually anti-fascist.

00:14:41.000 The United States government is not fascist in the sense of Giovanni Gentile's fascism.

00:14:46.000 It was like a it was like a political, it was like a spiritual religious movement of like we are all one, we are all individuals, but we are also all connected.

00:14:55.000 We are all one, and the state is the manifestation of that.

00:14:58.000 And so we are all the state speaks for us, the state is the greatest force of all of us, and it became this religious zeitgeist in Italy that Mussolini then took and he made gentile his you know minister.

00:15:09.000 Is that your point?

00:15:10.000 So my point is if we don't have a country like that, that's not how our country works.

00:15:13.000 People don't have religious adoration.

00:15:14.000 I mean, now you can see people, it might spark up.

00:15:17.000 People are like, good, govern me harder, daddy.

00:15:19.000 Give me the feds, give me the feds. 1.00

00:15:21.000 That can be that can lead to fascism, but in the meantime, we're more of a corporatocracy.

00:15:25.000 This conversation, and I don't mean this to sound disrespectful, but the things you're saying are 2018.

00:15:30.000 People they need to hear it though.

00:15:31.000 People that are antifa and they think they're actually challenging fascism or in the room.

00:15:35.000 Again, again, that's why I'm saying this conversation is 2018.

00:15:38.000 These people don't think they're Antifa.

00:15:40.000 They do not believe they are fighting fascism.

00:15:43.000 They are either completely devoid of any thought at all, or they are intentionally lying for the purpose of fomenting violence.

00:15:50.000 Last night you talked about the green shirts, the yellow shirts, and the red shirts in anti-fit.

00:15:53.000 I think the green shirts truly believe they're fighting fascism and don't know what fascism is.

00:15:58.000 This is the point.

00:15:59.000 The point is they don't know what fascism, communism, anti-fascism is, they don't know what antifa is, they've never heard of these things, and they are just there because someone invited them to come down and they don't know anything.

00:16:09.000 I'm speaking to those people.

00:16:10.000 This isn't a very, very important distinction.

00:16:12.000 And this is 2025.

00:16:13.000 The conversation has advanced.

00:16:15.000 There was a uh Joe Rogan mentioned this, and I and I uh I I had this critique throughout the week, that he said these people really thought that Charlie was a bad guy and that they were good people.

00:16:25.000 Joe is incorrect in that assessment.

00:16:27.000 The reason why the lies about Charlie were able to work on the left is because the left never heard of him before.

00:16:33.000 So uh another good example is uh I'm I'm I'm walking around the city today, and I get recognized all the time.

00:16:40.000 And I've got security.

00:16:42.000 We'll keep it at that.

00:16:44.000 And in these conversations, one points out, he'd say, Oh, you know, uh we we people seem to notice that whenever someone comes up to me, they're a fan.

00:16:51.000 That's right.

00:16:52.000 Because in the actual political space, the people who are apprised of politics know what they're talking about, see me and say, I know who you are, you are Timpool, I'm a fan.

00:17:00.000 Liberals see me and don't know anything.

00:17:04.000 They so the the instances where I encounter someone who doesn't like me are exceedingly rare in public because the average liberal has no idea what is going on in politics, and you need only look at politics.

00:17:14.000 You know, you know who's a great follow when he unlocks his account is Jess Margera.

00:17:19.000 Steve Bennon talks about how you gotta watch MSNBC so you know what they're thinking.

00:17:22.000 And he's right.

00:17:23.000 I like to follow Jess Margjera, he's he's Bam Margera's brother, but he locks his account from time to time.

00:17:28.000 And he makes posts where you're like, okay, I see how they're thinking.

00:17:32.000 They've not even Google searched this.

00:17:34.000 The example being the reason for this shutdown.

00:17:36.000 Very simple.

00:17:37.000 If you turn on MSNBC, they're gonna have Democrats going, we are we are the like Schumer or some Democrat will go, there is no health care benefits for illegal immigrants. 0.98

00:17:47.000 We are not requesting it, we are not offering it.

00:17:49.000 There I said it, case closed.

00:17:50.000 And the liberals go, well, there it is.

00:17:52.000 Why are Republicans lying?

00:17:54.000 If they actually were telling liberals the truth, they'd say, and the reason is because we deem that anybody who enters the country illegally and then makes an assertion of legal status, we pause and say, this is now legally permitted.

00:18:08.000 So the Democrat, the Democrats don't actually tell liberals what's going on.

00:18:12.000 They just lie to them.

00:18:14.000 That's the important thing.

00:18:15.000 The people who are out on the ground at ICE don't know what ICE does, don't know what C BP is. 0.62

00:18:21.000 If you went to these people and said, what does ICE stand for?

00:18:23.000 They'd say, get out of here.

00:18:25.000 If you said, what is C BP stand for?

00:18:27.000 If you said what is USCIS, they'd go, huh?

00:18:30.000 That's the point.

00:18:31.000 They're not fighting fascists.

00:18:32.000 They are just devoid of thought.

00:18:34.000 The people who organize these rallies and the liberal high priests who communicate and rally them online, know they are lying intentionally.

00:18:43.000 Like Hassan Piker posing in front of what kind of car did he buy?

00:18:47.000 He bought like a Maserati or something.

00:18:48.000 Like, come on, dude.

00:18:49.000 This guy lives in a mansion. 0.97

00:18:50.000 He's not an anti-capitalist, he's a grifter. 0.94

00:18:53.000 That's the point.

00:18:53.000 All these people are lying to the city.

00:18:56.000 Yeah, and it's the liberal media's been lying to us the entire time since 1949.

00:18:59.000 It's only when Trump came along and he sort of kind of red pilled people intentionally or not.

00:19:03.000 And a generation of 15-year-olds is like this guy speaking the truth, at least. 1.00

00:19:07.000 I I would argue that many of them are useful idiots to an extent. 0.99

00:19:10.000 There are some revolutionaries. 1.00

00:19:11.000 But when you take a look at the uh here's a story for you guys.

00:19:14.000 We had uh Naema Trout scheduled, confirmed for the Culture War Live.

00:19:19.000 When when we when we reach out to people for this debate, hey, we want liberals, we want conservatives.

00:19:24.000 Liberals always say, Here's my fee, because they don't care about a cause making the country better.

00:19:31.000 Their whole job is their whole life is here's how many followers I have, here much here's how much money I am owed for this appearance.

00:19:38.000 That's why if you if you notice, I'll keep some names out of this, but some of these bigger podcasts, which seem to get prominent liberals on their shows, pay them.

00:19:48.000 And then you'll find that these prominent liberals who are now being paid by these other podcasters, change their opinions.

00:19:54.000 It's uh it's pretty obvious.

00:19:55.000 When we book conservatives, actually, we we barely have to try.

00:19:58.000 They're knocking on the door nonstop.

00:19:59.000 Everyone knows this.

00:20:00.000 Bill Maher talked about it.

00:20:01.000 We booked Naeima Trout, and she said, I want money.

00:20:05.000 And we said, we lose money doing these events.

00:20:08.000 This is really just about having the debate.

00:20:09.000 We understand, though, it's a live event, so we can offer you $500 as a fee.

00:20:15.000 Her team agreed to it and said, okay, we accept.

00:20:18.000 We'll cover your travel accommodation and give you 500 cash.

00:20:20.000 Nobody else is getting paid.

00:20:22.000 They emailed us yesterday saying, We want $5,000.

00:20:26.000 Can you do that?

00:20:27.000 And we said, no, we can't.

00:20:28.000 We lose money doing this.

00:20:30.000 And you know what?

00:20:31.000 Part of me says, I get it.

00:20:32.000 They're claiming like she got another offer, it's gonna pay her a lot of money, and she has to take it.

00:20:36.000 Totally fine.

00:20:37.000 Who am I to tell you not to take that money?

00:20:39.000 But conservatives do it for the love and for the cause and for the movement, and liberals do it for the money.

00:20:43.000 So, in terms of these people on the ground that are being antagonized by people I I said that figuratively, who are being riled up by the likes of Hassan or the Krasensteens. 0.63

00:20:52.000 The only reason Hassan is saying the things that he says is so that he gets more clicks and makes more money.

00:20:57.000 And it's evidenced in the fact that he has no consistent logic behind what he says.

00:21:01.000 These people on the ground are attacking Nick Sorter, not because he's Nick's order.

00:21:05.000 They don't know who Nick Sorter is.

00:21:07.000 They wouldn't know if he was a fascist or anything.

00:21:08.000 All they know is they were told, bad guy. 0.52

00:21:11.000 Hit bad guy.

00:21:12.000 There's nothing you can say to them.

00:21:14.000 I said, I asked you this yesterday, Ian, I'll ask you again.

00:21:16.000 If you were standing on the gallows with one of these guys standing behind you, could you say anything that would change their mind about them about to hang you?

00:21:23.000 Technically, yes, but good luck.

00:21:25.000 Literally not.

00:21:27.000 Yeah, winning the lottery, we get it.

00:21:28.000 But the point is nothing you say would make them change their mind because they don't even know who you are.

00:21:33.000 It's not literally nothing. 1.00

00:21:33.000 Well, a lot of them are mentally ill, not just totally ignorant. 1.00

00:21:36.000 I mean, we know this from personal experiences when me and Tim were out in Germany during the biggest anti-fun meeting ever in history. 0.99

00:21:42.000 History recorded, and uh they took a picture of us standing next to uh nobody.

00:21:48.000 We were all walking in different it was like you, me, and Max, I think his name was.

00:21:52.000 Yes, Max and Marcus.

00:21:53.000 And then Lauren Southern was in the background walking a different direction. 1.00

00:21:56.000 Yeah.

00:21:56.000 And that was enough to where they said, anyone in this photograph must be beaten.

00:22:01.000 Yes.

00:22:02.000 Whether you were with Lauren or not.

00:22:03.000 And so they ended up beating, like, this is I want to make I want to make sure this is very very clear for everybody.

00:22:08.000 Sorry for interrupting you, but Marcus and Lauren Southern don't know each other.

00:22:11.000 Yep.

00:22:12.000 And they attacked Marcus and tried stealing his camera because he was seen in the foreground of a photo.

00:22:16.000 She he was walking forward by himself.

00:22:18.000 She was in the background walking this the other direction.

00:22:20.000 So they attacked him.

00:22:21.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:22:22.000 And Mark Marcus was an international journalist.

00:22:24.000 So is Max.

00:22:25.000 Max was working for uh the German mainstream media, and they still decided to single Them out, beat the crap out of them.

00:22:31.000 Max had to have knee surgery afterwards because they kept stomping him.

00:22:34.000 Luckily, I was able to get away with a few lumps, but still, it wasn't a pleasant scenario where they were literally following us throughout the entire city and then following us home as well.

00:22:45.000 Let me tell you how creepy these people are.

00:22:47.000 Okay.

00:22:47.000 So when Lauren Southern was getting threatened, and we were like, maybe we should leave.

00:22:53.000 I said, I'm gonna go, I'm I'm done here.

00:22:55.000 Like, I don't want to stick around, it's getting dicey.

00:22:57.000 I'll go back with Lauren, make sure she makes it back to the to the apartment to the the Airbnb.

00:23:01.000 She was being hard-headed.

00:23:02.000 She was like, I'm not gonna leave or I'm gonna keep reporting.

00:23:03.000 I'm like, what are you doing?

00:23:04.000 Like, what are you doing? 1.00

00:23:05.000 You insane woman. 1.00

00:23:06.000 And I was like, I'm leaving, you can come. 1.00

00:23:07.000 Let's go.

00:23:08.000 When we were leaving, people were tweeting our location as we walked through various neighborhoods.

00:23:14.000 So we're we're we're in a side street in Hamburg, Germany, not anywhere near any businesses or anything.

00:23:21.000 And we see two people ride back pass on bikes, the only people we saw.

00:23:24.000 And they look at us and turn their head like this at us as they go by.

00:23:27.000 And I'm like, uh, that was weird.

00:23:29.000 Yeah. 0.73

00:23:29.000 Next thing we know, following the hashtag on Twitter, citing Lauren Southern seeing at this intersection, I went, holy crap. 0.73

00:23:35.000 Let's go.

00:23:36.000 So we went to a restaurant and we were like, let's just wait out inside.

00:23:38.000 This is they were they were regular people walking down the street, seeing us and then tweeting it.

00:23:43.000 That's how psychotic these Stepford wife cultists are in Germany. 1.00

00:23:46.000 And then they shut down the train systems by uh by blocking all the railroads.

00:23:50.000 Then they were shutting down the airport.

00:23:52.000 Then they then they were literally marching around just burning cars and stores as they pleased, as police officers literally were just like, yeah, we're not gonna do anything here.

00:24:00.000 That's the type of scenario that we were in, is we were literally waiting inside of our Airbnb, uh, trying to figure out if they figured out our location or not, because help wasn't coming.

00:24:09.000 You know the reason police wasn't gonna help you.

00:24:11.000 The reason I I would only make an appeal to people, the green shirts, the people that don't know on a show like this, is because there's something different about when you're in a the wisdom of a crowd, when they're in a crowd, I would never make an appeal to a crowd.

00:24:21.000 It's useless.

00:24:22.000 They they have mob mentality, but individuals that catch a clip on the news might hear something and be like, camera.

00:24:27.000 I'm not going to the next uh rally.

00:24:31.000 Sorry if the screen's green, not sorry.

00:24:33.000 I'll just I'll just scoot on in, T-Bone.

00:24:37.000 To your point, though, about uh liberals, especially Antifa types being motivated by cash.

00:24:44.000 How many of those people do you think are paid activists?

00:24:49.000 Because I do feel that so much of this, are there real is this actually not it's not organic as the the left tries to paint it out to find organic. 1.00

00:25:02.000 I mean are people stupid, stupid people could be hired to do a lot of jobs. 1.00

00:25:06.000 And so's paying them. 1.00

00:25:09.000 Uh simple answer, George Soros.

00:25:12.000 Yeah, let's get down to the bottom of the money.

00:25:14.000 They're investigating.

00:25:15.000 So the way it works is the was it the Open Society Foundation, yeah.

00:25:18.000 They make contributions to a bunch of NGOs.

00:25:20.000 That's it.

00:25:21.000 What those NGOs do is it's different.

00:25:24.000 So what ends up happening is when you want to simplify it for a conservative, and you say, George Soros is providing a lot of the funny, not all of it, but but uh but a piece of it to various NGOs, which finds its way into the hands of of these protesters.

00:25:35.000 The left then says, because it this doesn't actually help inform the average person, because then what you end up hearing is like on the ground during Occupy, people going, I wish I was getting a Soros check.

00:25:46.000 Two because you know, Hannity and Fox News are saying Soros was paying these protesters.

00:25:50.000 What actually happens is during Occupy Wall Street, there was a guy, a facilitator.

00:25:54.000 We call these the we were talking about this yesterday, the yellow.

00:25:56.000 There's green, yellow, and red.

00:25:57.000 Yellow organized, they're they're they could be targeted if people find out who they are. 0.97

00:26:00.000 Red engage in violence, and the green are the doofs. 0.98

00:26:03.000 They trick into coming by claiming that Radiohead is gonna play at Zuccotti Park.

00:26:07.000 Wow.

00:26:07.000 They literally did this.

00:26:08.000 They said Radiohead was doing a free show.

00:26:10.000 It was Radiohead, right, Luke?

00:26:11.000 Yes.

00:26:12.000 Radiohead was doing a free show at Occupy Wall Street.

00:26:14.000 Two thousand people showed up.

00:26:15.000 And then the yellow, they said, Mike, check.

00:26:18.000 Everyone knows Mike check.

00:26:20.000 Before Radiohead, we're gonna teach you guys about Occupy and then use it as an opportunity to indoctrinate once they were done.

00:26:25.000 They said, unfortunately, Radiohead's not coming.

00:26:27.000 Tricked everybody to get there.

00:26:29.000 So what happened?

00:26:29.000 So these people, they're paid to be there.

00:26:31.000 How?

00:26:32.000 Yeah.

00:26:32.000 No one says to them, go down and organize Occupy.

00:26:36.000 What happens is they work for a nonprofit that receives funding from a variety of sources.

00:26:40.000 Yeah.

00:26:40.000 Some of it probably USAID.

00:26:42.000 Uh like USAID will give money to various NGOs and foundations will give money to them.

00:26:47.000 They could be environmental nonprofits.

00:26:48.000 The boss, the the director of that office will say to the guy, you know what, man, why don't you take the day off?

00:26:54.000 You wanted to go hang out at Occupy Wall Street, right?

00:26:57.000 They sure could use an organizer.

00:26:58.000 Take the day off on me.

00:27:00.000 They go down there and they're supposed to be working a salaried position for the nonprofit.

00:27:06.000 They're still getting paid, but now they're organizing these protests, creating flyers, and getting people to show up.

00:27:12.000 And it's not really.

00:27:15.000 But money is fungible.

00:27:16.000 Yeah.

00:27:16.000 So when they say, take the day off, so long as you're organizing occupy Wall Street, I'm okay with that.

00:27:22.000 They're getting paid to be there.

00:27:24.000 Regular people, people on the right can't quit their jobs and go do this stuff.

00:27:27.000 Yeah.

00:27:28.000 That's why I like I see guys like Tim and Luke.

00:27:30.000 I mean, you've been dealing with these freaks for I mean, well over a decade now.

00:27:35.000 And I see this, and then you compare that and contrast that with sort of the commentary class on the right over the last 10 to 15 years, and they're just convinced they can principle their way out of this, just my principles.

00:27:44.000 And you two specifically, I mean, have been sounding the alarm on political violence now for a really long time, saying, nope, it's it's here.

00:27:49.000 It's it's real.

00:27:50.000 You two.

00:27:51.000 No, you guys.

00:27:52.000 Oh, you guys.

00:27:52.000 I was like, you two.

00:27:53.000 You two have been sounding alarmed like this is prevalent on the left.

00:27:57.000 And um, yeah, you know, you know what really bothers me is that no matter how many times I've said over the past few years, like okay.

00:28:05.000 To be fair, obviously the people watch this show agree with me to a great deal.

00:28:09.000 Not on everything, but I kept pointing out back 2018, these cops are communists.

00:28:15.000 They the the chief of police is appointed by a Democrat.

00:28:19.000 The Democrats don't like you.

00:28:21.000 And so we've learned this hard lesson when Proud Boys were sentenced to prison for four years after Antifa attacked them.

00:28:28.000 And this is not the first time we have seen the police target the innocent and let the criminals go.

00:28:33.000 It happens on a daily basis.

00:28:34.000 I keep hearing from conservatives, even recently saying, it's not the cops' fault, Tim.

00:28:39.000 It's the DAs who let him go.

00:28:41.000 Maybe now those naysayers watching Nick Sorter get arrested after they attacked him and Katie Daviswork got attacked and they would not arrest Antiva.

00:28:48.000 Maybe now you're like, oh, Tim was right the whole time.

00:28:52.000 Communists can get hired as cops all the same.

00:28:54.000 The Soviet Union had had police, okay?

00:28:56.000 All of the communist countries, China has police, and they are commies. 0.98

00:29:01.000 To your point, the what's sad about all this political violence is that this was laid out as early as the 70s.

00:29:10.000 And it it's crazy that it has taken our side so long to recognize what they're capable of.

00:29:19.000 The stuff has been laid out in Solinski's books.

00:29:22.000 They've been laid out in the weather underground, if you knew who those guys were.

00:29:27.000 And this stuff is just recycled, except now on a mass scale, I think.

00:29:32.000 And it's just like those the print those that was we've known about this.

00:29:38.000 And why has it gotten this bad?

00:29:40.000 And whose fault is it that we it has been emboldened?

00:29:44.000 And I think it's because we had the culture has changed significantly.

00:29:48.000 Well, I can give you a reason.

00:29:49.000 Let's jump to this story from the Hill.

00:29:51.000 Kavanaugh's attempted assassin sentenced to eight years in prison.

00:29:55.000 That's it.

00:29:56.000 He attempted to assassinate not just a sitting Supreme Court justice, but his family was threatened as well.

00:30:03.000 Eight years.

00:30:05.000 I mean, that's pretty wild.

00:30:07.000 So the message being sent with the assassination of Luigi Manja, I'm sorry, the assassination allegedly by Luigi Manjoni of Brian Thompson, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the attempted uh uh the attempt on Kavanaugh's life is that you're gonna get a slap on the wrist.

00:30:22.000 You are going to be venerated and praised.

00:30:25.000 So just a moment ago, you were mentioning the culture that brought us to this point.

00:30:28.000 You've got a variety of factors at play.

00:30:30.000 One, these these liberal judges live in a liberal world and they want people on the right assassinated. 1.00

00:30:37.000 Come on, I'm not playing stupid games anymore. 1.00

00:30:39.000 When they say to this guy you're free to go, okay, it's not literally eight years in prison, but for attempting to kill a sitting Supreme Court justice, that's insane. 1.00

00:30:48.000 There are people who are in prison longer than that for marijuana, just having pot.

00:30:53.000 Yep.

00:30:53.000 And with good behavior, it might be just uh four years.

00:30:56.000 Indeed.

00:30:56.000 Yeah, so this judge Deborah uh Broadman, um, she's actually a Biden appointee.

00:31:01.000 Indeed, and she stated how she uh considered the fact that the suspect now identifies as a woman as a reason to lower the sentence.

00:31:09.000 There we go.

00:31:09.000 And he might even be in a woman's prison, which would be absolutely people who need to understand what time it is.

00:31:18.000 Yeah.

00:31:18.000 We have two distinct identities in the United States.

00:31:23.000 The Democrats occupy the multicultural democracy, and everyone else occupies the constitutional republic. 0.75

00:31:29.000 Even Default libs are constitutional Republic people just don't know it.

00:31:34.000 So they end up marching in lockstep with these this weird cult.

00:31:38.000 Sometimes a lot of them don't, though.

00:31:40.000 Well, as of recently, there have there's been a sharp bifurcation with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:31:45.000 Many entrenched themselves, solidifying their position in the cult, and many others broke away.

00:31:50.000 And I predicted this.

00:31:51.000 I could be wrong because it's not like this thing, there's data to this, but basically what I'm seeing is what I expected to happen.

00:31:56.000 That is, many default libs were shocked by the killing and are s and are scared by it.

00:32:01.000 And so there have been prominent individuals who have been speaking out in support of Turning Point and for Charlie, despite being what you'd consider default libs.

00:32:11.000 They don't play attention to politics.

00:32:13.000 So I'm talking about celebrities, athletes, and otherwise.

00:32:15.000 However, a decent amount of of these people have gone hard at celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.

00:32:22.000 So what my my view is, and my prediction for the next year is another I think there's going to be a terror attack or a major assassination within the next year.

00:32:29.000 And the reason is exactly this.

00:32:32.000 The right coalition has just expanded uh by double digits because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk scaring people.

00:32:40.000 But default libs, many of them entrenched themselves in the left cult.

00:32:44.000 So I'd look at it like maybe 50% are leaning right with a decent boost, and now you've got 30 some odd percent in the left camp, boosting their numbers from what was what was actually like 10% a decade ago to like 20 in the past several years.

00:32:59.000 These people have have basically entrenched themselves in the woke ideology cult, whatever you want to call it.

00:33:06.000 That means they are going to believe there's fascists taking over.

00:33:09.000 They are going to believe, like Gavin Newsom said, there will not be an election in 2028, and they are not going to accept Republicans winning.

00:33:16.000 With the killing of Charlie Kirk pushing a little bit of support towards the right, because it certainly didn't go the other way.

00:33:23.000 The Republicans probably have an edge to win in many now, many new locations, potentially in New Jersey, maybe not.

00:33:29.000 I'd estimate there's a strong probability that they actually survive the midterms, which would be shocking because usually it goes the other way.

00:33:36.000 If the Democrats are looking like they are going to lose in just shy of a year's time, I believe that the entrenched large size of this cult is going to get extremely violent.

00:33:46.000 Dude, I'm concerned about false flags, like a foreign operative making it look like they're part of this liberal cult, whatever, and doing another assassination attempt or because it'll break the country.

00:33:56.000 Right.

00:33:56.000 Yeah.

00:33:57.000 I mean, if you look at the first civil war in America, there was other countries that were involved in it.

00:34:02.000 If there's going to be another civil war, you could bet your bottom dollar, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea.

00:34:09.000 Well, sorry, when you know, when the inevitable happens, um, I I think we're in a non-kinetic type of war, and we see that when people doubled down after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:34:21.000 Today I I made a video and I said it's a non-kinetic.

00:34:24.000 Uh, yeah, yeah, non kinetic.

00:34:27.000 Um I I would argue that it it wasn't just the assassination of Charlie, but the response to it that really kind of woke people up to just how close we are to bedlam and utter chaos in our society.

00:34:38.000 And I think it really kind of ripped off the the the face and the mask of the establishment, and now people are finally seeing it to to be as horrendous as it is.

00:34:47.000 So this is a make or break moment for America that is going to be a key deciding factor to see where we're going from here.

00:34:53.000 But all signs point to more trouble.

00:34:55.000 I don't I don't see a uh a path away from this because the way I look at it, there are a lot of people that watch this show and watch my morning show, and I'm not right about everything, I'm wrong about a lot.

00:35:06.000 But the predictions that I have made have been um let's just let's just say it vaguely correct, right?

00:35:13.000 So the the the example that I often give is in September of 2020, I said if Trump loses in November, his supporters are gonna storm the White House.

00:35:22.000 They're gonna bust it down, they are not going to accept this.

00:35:25.000 I was told that I was crazy, paranoid, etc.

00:35:28.000 November came and went, nothing happened, and liberals made videos saying Tim Poole's crazy, he's a he's a conspiracy theorist.

00:35:34.000 Then January 6th happened.

00:35:36.000 These same liberals made videos saying Tim Poole had foreknowledge of January 6th.

00:35:40.000 They couldn't accept that.

00:35:41.000 No, I just saw the temperature and saw what was going to happen.

00:35:44.000 I wonder if the FBI did.

00:35:45.000 I wonder if the FBI watched your video and they're like, all right, let's use this projection to do it.

00:35:50.000 I don't know.

00:35:51.000 The point is this.

00:35:52.000 That's sick.

00:35:53.000 There is a river all around us.

00:35:57.000 We are not the biggest show in the world, nor do we reach the most People.

00:36:00.000 And while many people watch the show for a long time and probably have probably been saying, I think Tim is actually right about the path that we're on.

00:36:08.000 Convincing you guys doesn't change the direction of the river.

00:36:12.000 So right now, where we're at is we are cognizant of what is happening.

00:36:15.000 We have been cognizant of it for seven years, and there's little we can do to stop it.

00:36:20.000 Well, there's sort of an and let the point is this.

00:36:23.000 Dana White gave an interview where he said, I don't like cancel culture.

00:36:27.000 People shouldn't lose their jobs for what they're saying about Charlie Kirk.

00:36:30.000 That is the perfect example of why nothing will stop this.

00:36:35.000 Now, maybe I'm wrong because I'm only vague like I say I'm vaguely correct.

00:36:38.000 I'm obviously nobody stormed the White House in November, but you get how I was kind of close to it.

00:36:42.000 Dana White gave us a great example of prominent, moderate individuals who support Trump do not understand what they are supporting.

00:36:52.000 When Dana White says we should allow people to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk, he's saying, I'm not really involved in politics, I'm for free speech.

00:37:02.000 A society where it's most prominent business magnates and personalities defend the right to celebrate assassinations is a society headed down the path of Rwanda, which is exactly what happened when people would go on the radio and on the TV and say, other tribes, I think it was the Tootsie's, right? 0.89

00:37:17.000 The other tribe are a bunch of demonic evil and they got to be purged and killed and mocking them and laughing. 0.99

00:37:22.000 And then finally one day people woke up and said, okay, we're doing it, and started massacring the other tribe. 0.97

00:37:27.000 We have opened the door to civil war because we celebrated I don't say we, but this country defended the right of people to go on social media and go on TV and defend the assassination of Brian Thompson.

00:37:38.000 Less than a year later, Charlie Kirk was assassinated, and the left is still celebrating it, sending the message that if you're a liberal and you try to kill somebody, worst case scenario, you'll get a slap on the wrist.

00:37:49.000 Eight years maybe if you're caught.

00:37:51.000 If you are and you go to jail, you they will make sainthood candles for you.

00:37:55.000 They will celebrate you and praise you.

00:37:57.000 We recently saw a comedy show at a university where in their thank you at the portion at the end, it said Charlie Kirk's killer.

00:38:03.000 So when Dana White says this must be allowed, cancel culture is bad, he has said green light for 50 million people in this country to create an economy based on murdering your political opponents. 0.99

00:38:16.000 Yeah, I mean, it's like you want to irrigate a canal, he's like, just open the damn floodgates. 0.98

00:38:20.000 We need the water in the canal. 0.92

00:38:21.000 Like, bro, there's a way to irrigate the canal.

00:38:23.000 We obviously we need free speech, but you also have to be just about how you allow society to warp people's minds.

00:38:30.000 Like, but here's the thing about prediction.

00:38:32.000 And I've been thinking a lot about are we predicting the future or are we creating the future?

00:38:35.000 Like if if I go on TV and say there's gonna be a party on Friday at that place, and then all these people hear it, and they're like, oh, and then they all show up.

00:38:43.000 I just manifested a party.

00:38:45.000 I didn't even so if you say there's going to be a civil war, people are like, oh, oh, and then they all show up.

00:38:51.000 Except for the fact that the entire time people have been largely laughing and saying it's never gonna happen.

00:38:56.000 I just there is a there is a nuance between telling people get ready and get the be prepared and be there.

00:39:03.000 Uh it's sort of so there's like a fine line, you know what?

00:39:05.000 You don't want to be fake, and you don't want to say everything's like.

00:39:07.000 The people who are watching the show are not going out in the streets with guns and assassinating people, but other people that might be afraid of you, you know, people that hear you and they're like, really?

00:39:14.000 He thinks, okay, I'm ready.

00:39:15.000 Like, I will say from the political side of things that yes, it does in a way, it it does embolden people when they get a slap on the wrist.

00:39:25.000 At the same time, though, I do believe that it wakes up a lot of people who have been silent.

00:39:31.000 There is a sleeping giant in this country.

00:39:34.000 We saw it in this last election, I believe, that people finally got involved.

00:39:39.000 And as uh, you know, a candidate and things like that, we get sometimes it's like you want people to be able to get involved into the process because so many people are not.

00:39:49.000 But now, because of everything that's been going on, all the hate that's happening, reasonably minded people on both sides of the aisle look at this.

00:39:58.000 I think there are a lot of reasonable Democrats that look at the assassination on Charlie Kirk and horrific things that happened to conservatives.

00:40:06.000 I think I want to believe, and I truly believe, and the data does show that people are waking up, and there is still this sense of Americanism that whoa, this is not how who we are as Americans.

00:40:18.000 We are not the people of Rwanda.

00:40:20.000 This is we have values and virtue in this country, and I do believe that we are seeing the change because so many people are getting involved in the political process.

00:40:29.000 You know, I I just maybe anecdotally, but I get messages all the time that are like, hey, look, I'm sick of sitting on the sidelines.

00:40:37.000 I want to help out.

00:40:37.000 I want to get involved.

00:40:38.000 I want to run for office.

00:40:39.000 I I'm not afraid to speak out anymore.

00:40:42.000 And so I think for every time that we are, we're living through these really rough times, we do all have a choice though of what our country what what do we want the country to look like?

00:40:53.000 This is still our country at the end of the day.

00:40:55.000 And there is still a lot of Americanism there that I think is the guiding light to the future.

00:41:00.000 Do you think there's an off-ramp?

00:41:02.000 And what's the off-ramp to the kind of collision course that we we are in now?

00:41:07.000 I think I'm more maybe I'm an idealist.

00:41:10.000 I'm a little bit more optimistic.

00:41:12.000 I do look, our country has gone through so many more hard times.

00:41:17.000 You look at the Civil War, you look at World War II.

00:41:19.000 Like we, yes, we have lived in our own gilded age in a in a sense.

00:41:24.000 We're now seeing chaos and and all that.

00:41:26.000 However, our country has survived tremendous trials.

00:41:31.000 And how we survive them were moments like this where we all did come together and we did revive of what it meant, the revival of what it meant to be an American.

00:41:42.000 And I do believe, I still believe that everybody, even on our worst day, we are still the greatest country in the world, and we will turn this around, but it takes everybody to get involved.

00:41:54.000 It takes people to stop sipping on their, you know, Starbucks lasse and just pretending like everything's fine.

00:42:01.000 You have to get involved.

00:42:02.000 And and it and I always say this, it will become personal to everybody.

00:42:06.000 If it hasn't become personal to you yet, it will become personal.

00:42:10.000 Uh whether that is the transgender movement or whether it's illegal immigration, all these policy issues that this enemy within has created in our country. 0.99

00:42:21.000 One day it will get personal to people.

00:42:24.000 And when it gets personal to enough people, are enough people gonna stand up and say this is not this is not where we're what we're gonna do anymore. 0.81

00:42:31.000 So no, we're screwed.

00:42:33.000 Well, yeah, because it's like I do agree we've been through some tough times as a country, but I think the problem was in the 60s and 70s, like you mentioned with weather underground and this sort of leftist paramilitaries that we saw.

00:42:41.000 So we never actually sufficiently beat them.

00:42:43.000 I mean, you saw like Bill Ayers and um Bernadine Dorn like advising like you know, modern liberals and these sorts of things, the Obamas.

00:42:51.000 And so it's like I agree, but it's part of the problem we're dealing with now is that we never actually sort of successfully put these people away when we had the chance, you know, 50 years ago.

00:43:01.000 And now we're having to deal with it again.

00:43:03.000 And now I mean, like to Tim's point, we're going into a midterms that look like it's gonna be favorable for the Republicans.

00:43:09.000 Um they're losing access to a lot of funding.

00:43:12.000 So they're back into a corner.

00:43:13.000 So it's not even a prediction, it's just math.

00:43:15.000 Prediction markets still favor Democrats.

00:43:16.000 Sure.

00:43:17.000 But we'll see in the world.

00:43:20.000 So they're gonna they feel demoralized if you'll back into a corner.

00:43:23.000 The prediction market says Democrats are gonna take the majority of the house.

00:43:26.000 The only thing that that happens every time.

00:43:28.000 The only way that happens, though, we have such a slim majority, and this is why everybody who's listening has to get involved because we have such a slim majority.

00:43:37.000 If the Democrats do win, we will not be able to pass anything from the Trump agenda, which has been remarkably better than obviously the Biden administration.

00:43:47.000 But the reason for that is because normally in these off-cycle years, Republicans, the people who who we rely on, sometimes unfortunately don't come out.

00:43:57.000 And so it costs a ton of money to get people to get out and vote because sometimes we become complacent.

00:44:04.000 I don't think that that's gonna be the case this now, especially after everything that's been going on.

00:44:09.000 There has been this was a mandate that happened uh with the re-election of President Trump.

00:44:14.000 So much bad happened prior to that that I think people now understood the cost and the consequences of not waking up.

00:44:23.000 And so I think that we are gonna take the house back, but it takes again the silent majority to get up to knock doors, to volunteer, to contribute.

00:44:31.000 Everybody has a a skill set or everybody has a role in this movement to make sure that we do win the house.

00:44:39.000 Keep the house.

00:44:40.000 Is that why you're running?

00:44:40.000 Like what got you're running right now in Florida?

00:44:42.000 Yes, I am.

00:44:43.000 What's what happened?

00:44:44.000 How'd you get started?

00:44:45.000 Uh so I have obviously been in politics for quite some time now, and I my original inspiration I always say was AOC, because I look at somebody like that and I looked at how there weren't enough people on the Republican side Speaking out against women like her and other these young women who were completely manipulating so many minds, especially of the younger generation.

00:45:09.000 And I'm like, why don't we have a countervoice to a lot of these people?

00:45:15.000 And so I was honored to be able to, you know, have a get a lot of support in my candidacy.

00:45:22.000 And now that we're running in Florida, you know, people are really fed up.

00:45:26.000 They want people who actually care about them.

00:45:29.000 And we have even on both sides of the aisle, we've had people in Congress who are not working for the people.

00:45:35.000 You know, you see it unfortunately sometimes on the Republican side.

00:45:39.000 And it's time that we bring back servant leadership.

00:45:41.000 It's time we bring back a representative democracy, which is what we were founded upon.

00:45:46.000 Are our your Congressperson is supposed to care about you?

00:45:49.000 They are supposed to be a lion for your values and a voice in Washington for you.

00:45:53.000 And so for so long, people have been fed up about that.

00:45:56.000 I feel like Thomas Massey is doing that, but it's like when you have 700,000 people that you have to represent, I can that even function.

00:46:03.000 Like I represent me.

00:46:05.000 I can't really represent Tate because he's too awesome.

00:46:08.000 Um and I don't know what he's thinking at night.

00:46:10.000 You know, I don't know, I can't I can't get into your brains, people, and I don't want to.

00:46:13.000 We shouldn't be brain tapping each other.

00:46:16.000 So what how do you stand where do you stand on the Thomas Massey issue?

00:46:19.000 Are you with Massey or are you against Massey?

00:46:21.000 You know, ultimately, uh it's up for his constituency to decide.

00:46:25.000 That's not for, you know, I I do I do agree with some of what uh in the past, especially, but I'm a little bit more pragmatic when it comes to everything that's going on from a political perspective.

00:46:37.000 You know, there are a lot of quote unquote hills to die on in politics, and sometimes it's better that we do remain united uh as a party in a lot of ways, because when you break out into these factions, which is what Republicans sometimes do because we're just more individualist thinking, you know, the left always stays together.

00:46:56.000 They mass organize, they're they're unified all the time.

00:46:59.000 I'm not saying that we should, you know, be like them.

00:47:02.000 However, I am saying that we have to be, we need to be a party that is on the same page.

00:47:08.000 If not, if we are not, if we are divided as a party, then that allows the subversion of the Democrats to be able to infiltrate our party, but also to then be the stronger, to then rebuild and be strong, and then they do what they do.

00:47:23.000 And so I think ultimately it's up to his constituency um to decide uh on on how they feel.

00:47:29.000 And that's how, you know, ultimately it should play out.

00:47:31.000 I feel like with the Epstein style, he's going hard on like release the Epstein files.

00:47:34.000 That it's he thinks this is what my people want.

00:47:36.000 I don't care about the Republican Party.

00:47:39.000 I don't care about the federal government.

00:47:40.000 I'm representing 700,000 people.

00:47:42.000 They want the files, so I'm gonna vote to do it.

00:47:44.000 And it's like it does kind of break away from you know the party in some ways, because a lot of people are like, hey, I think we're using this data as blackmail against the deep state right now.

00:47:52.000 Don't unleash it.

00:47:53.000 That's what uh Alex Jones said last night.

00:47:56.000 Um let's not unleash it because we're using it.

00:47:58.000 Um, but like he's adhering to this people, like so and the people aren't all on the same page.

00:48:04.000 You know, people in Kentucky are different than people in Florida and Colorado, wherever you're coming from.

00:48:10.000 Anyway, I guess the tap it off.

00:48:12.000 I I get concerned about people marching in lockstep, but I understand your point that if you don't, someone else might.

00:48:18.000 Yeah, look, at the end of the day, you have to always be as a representative, you have to do what what you're there because of the people.

00:48:25.000 You don't send somebody to Washington because, oh, well, I this is the way I feel about something, which is unfortunately we have too many narcissistic politicians that go to Washington.

00:48:34.000 They not only not vote for what their constituency wants, they also are sitting there insider trading, doing whatever they want.

00:48:40.000 They never get, you know, they're never held accountable because they always get re-elected, whatever that might be.

00:48:45.000 At the end of the day, you should do what matters for your district.

00:48:48.000 Right now, the economy is huge.

00:48:51.000 Uh, thank God we have President Trump turning things around from an economic perspective.

00:48:55.000 The border crisis was, I mean, the everything that was happening in our country was destroying it.

00:49:01.000 And and Biden did destroy our country in such a short amount of time.

00:49:06.000 We're now trying to reverse that in the Trump administration.

00:49:08.000 And so ultimately, to your point, we have to be in lax up from the president.

00:49:13.000 I think he is the commander-in-chief.

00:49:15.000 He was historically re-elected.

00:49:17.000 We need to be delivering on his agenda, which is what the people historically from a mandate perspective voted for.

00:49:23.000 So if Massey's uh order comes down to uh release the Epstein list, where do you vote on that?

00:49:29.000 I would First of all, I would appreciate that what someone like Massey should do, and what I think what most representatives should do.

00:49:38.000 Why don't you take a poll of what matters in your in your district?

00:49:42.000 Why don't you take a poll for what your constituency wants?

00:49:46.000 And so you have to vote yes or no on the petition.

00:49:50.000 It's it's it's kind of hard to organize a scientific poll that will reach enough people in time when these things get introduced.

00:49:55.000 Like we know that Massey's been working on it for a while, so it does make sense to be like, Oh, I'm gonna set up a poll in my district, but sometimes you might get something that could move through in like a week.

00:50:04.000 Some big political thing happens, and they say we're gonna draft a bill on this, get it introduced by next week, it should be done.

00:50:08.000 You're not gonna be able to organize any meaningful poll.

00:50:11.000 And any poll that you organize would easily be exploited by people who want to trick you into voting the wrong way.

00:50:16.000 Well, and most policies though, let's not forget, are not clean bills.

00:50:19.000 I mean, half of this stuff, you have stacks of paper to your point, you have to read over you know uh uh 10 hours, but it's not really straightforward.

00:50:29.000 Have you read through Massey's the massive Massy and Rokana, I think? 1.00

00:50:33.000 No, I haven't.

00:50:33.000 Uh I think it's I think it's pretty good.

00:50:35.000 It the initial bill that was put forward by Rokhana, I heavily criticized because it would require the release of all the evidence, which includes videos of children.

00:50:42.000 And so I said this is a trap.

00:50:44.000 Democrats put forward something they know Republicans can't vote on.

00:50:47.000 Rocana then I interviewed him and he said, Okay, you you're right about that.

00:50:50.000 That was not my intention.

00:50:51.000 I appreciate you bringing it up.

00:50:52.000 I appreciate that you brought it up.

00:50:53.000 We're gonna change it.

00:50:54.000 So he and Massey got together and they drifted a very, very simple, I think it's like two pages, very clean.

00:50:59.000 Release what of the Epstein's uh information that you can without exposing any ongoing investigations, evidence, you know, uh that that would depict, you know, children and women meaning trafficked.

00:51:11.000 So I I think uh his bill actually looks pretty good.

00:51:14.000 Um Trump has not given us a real reason as to why he does not want it released.

00:51:18.000 So were I to be in Congress, I would vote for it to be released.

00:51:21.000 What about you?

00:51:21.000 Yes or no?

00:51:22.000 I'd like to look at the bill.

00:51:24.000 I'm not gonna comment on anything until I've seen the the actual bill because if you have an option to release the Epstein list, but Trump tells you no, what do you do?

00:51:33.000 I'm not gonna I mean I haven't seen this bill.

00:51:35.000 So I don't know.

00:51:37.000 Just in general, like would you release the Epstein files in a way that made sense to you, even if Trump didn't want to do that?

00:51:42.000 I think it matters of what your people want.

00:51:44.000 You're not sitting there.

00:51:45.000 I think sometimes there's so much sensationalism that happens in politics, and ultimately, like why why are why don't we if the constituency wants something to be passed when it comes to economics, the border, things that the kitchen table issues, why are we focused?

00:52:03.000 Why don't we focus on that instead of at the end of the day trying to be sensationalist?

00:52:09.000 And I'm not saying that this particular situation is sensationalist.

00:52:12.000 However, I from overwhelming conversations on the ground, I will tell you the majority of people are focusing on how they can feed their families, uh, why they can't afford homes, uh, what's going on in our district when it comes to hurricanes.

00:52:28.000 Those are those are things that really matter to the the constituency and set up some of these people that look at Twitter and things like that.

00:52:36.000 And I'm not saying I'm not minimizing it on the internet.

00:52:38.000 But you have to vote when you're in the present or you know, you don't show up, right?

00:52:44.000 But the issue is that Trump has handled this so miserably that it's actually inflamed the issue.

00:52:50.000 There was uh and Dan Bongino and Cash and Pam have handled this miserably.

00:52:55.000 And I consider them uh uh Cash and Dan to be well, Cash is a friend.

00:52:58.000 Dan, I I know a little bit, he's a good dude.

00:53:00.000 I respect him.

00:53:01.000 They're they're they're they're friends of the show.

00:53:03.000 Um they've handled this so poorly, they have made it an issue.

00:53:07.000 Yeah, and I wonder why that is.

00:53:08.000 And then Donald Trump says it's a hoax.

00:53:10.000 I don't know why that is, and now I'm kind of like yeah, I'm not playing any games.

00:53:15.000 This is weird.

00:53:16.000 Um Dan Bangino could have come out and said one very simple thing that would have made this put the story to rest like that, if he looked into the camera and he said, Guys, we're working on this Epstein investigation.

00:53:29.000 You can trust me on this one.

00:53:30.000 It may take some time, but we're gonna get to the bottom of this one.

00:53:33.000 Please just be patient.

00:53:35.000 Story gone.

00:53:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:36.000 Instead, they come out and they're like, There's nothing here, it never happened.

00:53:39.000 Donald Trump comes out, it's a hoax, and now we're all going, does he want this to be the biggest trending story in the world?

00:53:45.000 Because this don't make sense.

00:53:46.000 Yep, no blackmail, he totally took his own life, nothing to see here.

00:53:50.000 Don't talk about it. 0.97

00:53:51.000 You're a weakling if you do, which is just absolutely absurd.

00:53:55.000 I'm like anybody who sat down for 10 seconds of marketing 101 would have been like, here's what you do. 0.95

00:54:00.000 Say if you want to make this the biggest trending story, say this.

00:54:04.000 And then they went, You got it, went out on TV and said everything they said.

00:54:07.000 I I I think there's a lot of internal pressure from the Intel agencies telling them you're not gonna talk about this, and that's it.

00:54:13.000 And I think that really shows us the true structure of power in Washington, DC, because it also highlights how it's not just Trump who's in charge here, someone clearly else is.

00:54:22.000 Trump previously helped out the victims.

00:54:24.000 I disagree.

00:54:25.000 Yeah.

00:54:26.000 There's been some actual reporting behind the scenes that the issue is, and I think this makes the most sense, because this is what I was arguing beforehand.

00:54:34.000 It's not so much that he's using this against the deep state or whatever.

00:54:37.000 That's wishful thing and mega side.

00:54:39.000 But even if he is, that's evil.

00:54:40.000 But it's not what he's doing.

00:54:41.000 What it is is that as we already saw with the news saying that Elon Musk was named in it.

00:54:46.000 It's bad for the stock of these companies to even have your name in any way in it, even if it passively mentions your name.

00:54:52.000 There are people who associate with Epstein but didn't go to the island who are going to be named in this these documents as having traveled with Epstein or partied with him.

00:55:01.000 And Trump, my understanding is the reporting was Trump said it's going to hurt a lot of people.

00:55:05.000 A lot of people are going to get hurt who didn't do anything wrong, and that's why he doesn't want to put it out.

00:55:09.000 Yeah, but we have discernment as American citizens.

00:55:12.000 And if you're associated, and if you actually did horrible things, you should be held accountable, especially when you do them to children.

00:55:17.000 And this precedent of saying, Yeah, you could hurt children, but if you're powerful enough, you'll we'll we'll let you get away with this.

00:55:23.000 That's not what was said.

00:55:25.000 The reporting behind the scenes is that there are people like Elon Musk, who was reportedly named in the Epstein files.

00:55:32.000 Why?

00:55:32.000 Because at some point he he crossed path at a party with Epstein.

00:55:36.000 The argument is the files are going to come out.

00:55:39.000 It's not going to expose who you want it to, but it's going to have names in it of people who have worked like in some way with Epstein or financed him, unbeknownst to them, he was doing these things.

00:55:47.000 That's the argument.

00:55:48.000 Well, the I think it's null and void.

00:55:50.000 I think it's null and void because the documents have already been released that that Elon's in there, Peter Thiel's in there.

00:55:55.000 But there's also, as Elon said specifically, major left-wing backers.

00:56:00.000 We're talking about uh Bill Gates.

00:56:02.000 We're talking about Bill Clinton being on the plane that's children or being hurt in the back, which Bon Gino was talking about years ago.

00:56:08.000 Why I'm in favor, and I would agree with Massey and say we should vote to release these things.

00:56:12.000 And I put the responsibility on Trump and his team for failing this miserably. 0.61

00:56:17.000 Do you think that was right, though, from the media perspective to include Elon in that particular article that they did where he specifically fought back and said, This is ridiculous.

00:56:28.000 They tried to paint him as this the villain of this story when that wasn't the reality.

00:56:35.000 So I I talked about this latest release, and it was heavily biased against Republicans.

00:56:39.000 And I said, This is why Trump needs to release it because the Democrats picked out Steve Bannon, they picked out Peter Theo, they picked out Elon Musk.

00:56:47.000 Those people should have some answers, but there's other people that were also involved here that are major Democratic donors, major big players.

00:56:54.000 And for some reason, we're protecting Bill Clinton, who, according to two sources, knew children were being hurt and was there and was an accomplice to the crime.

00:57:04.000 Why protect Bill Clinton?

00:57:05.000 It's completely obvious.

00:57:06.000 The Epstein files are going to implicate people that are important to Donald Trump for whatever reason.

00:57:10.000 He doesn't care if they did good, bad, or otherwise.

00:57:11.000 The right wants to win a war against the Democrats.

00:57:15.000 Trump doesn't want to allow them in any way to gain power.

00:57:18.000 And I gotta be honest, I'm terrified of the of them gaining power.

00:57:21.000 I'm in favor of releasing these documents, but again, Trump is saying nothing to see here because he wants power and doesn't want Democrats to get power.

00:57:29.000 But he's losing so much political capital and power by doing so.

00:57:32.000 Yes, he is.

00:57:33.000 Absolutely he is.

00:57:34.000 No one else really cares.

00:57:35.000 This will affect the midterms, in my opinion.

00:57:37.000 It will I doubt it.

00:57:38.000 There's a lot of people that are libertarians that never voted in this last election.

00:57:42.000 They only voted for him that were in the middle because he came out and his staff came out and said we're gonna release everything.

00:57:47.000 Barely anyone's talked about Epstein's career.

00:57:50.000 Because you guys are you're completely you're completely discounting the fact that the average American person again, we have huge crises happen that were happening that were now being solved by this administration.

00:58:03.000 There is more when when you have a family that couldn't afford groceries, you have seniors on fixed income, you have families who whose children have been killed by illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:58:14.000 There are things that are.

00:58:16.000 Yeah, there's children also being abused. 0.85

00:58:18.000 There's children being hurt and abused in the thousands of people.

00:58:21.000 Yeah.

00:58:21.000 But it's they don't have to be a good thing.

00:58:23.000 So you're saying so you're saying some there's someone has a hard time with Bill So thousands of children getting their beers like that.

00:58:30.000 Cathy with the Kathy Newman, the so you're saying argument?

00:58:33.000 No.

00:58:34.000 I'm saying we should have these documents released.

00:58:36.000 Trump has botched this miserably.

00:58:39.000 However, the obvious reason why Trump is withholding them is because he wants to maximize political power by any means to go up against the deep state.

00:58:46.000 He doesn't I disagree with that.

00:58:48.000 I think that's an assertion.

00:58:49.000 I think that's very favorable.

00:58:50.000 I think we disagree about it.

00:58:51.000 I think that's very favorable thinking.

00:58:53.000 I think that's giving him the benefit of that.

00:58:54.000 That's giving him favorable thinking.

00:58:56.000 He could change.

00:58:57.000 He could change protecting the political landscape of the city.

00:59:01.000 Because the pedos haven't been held accountable.

00:59:02.000 Because there's pedos who hurt children who are still out there.

00:59:05.000 Why does that benefit Trump? 0.59

00:59:06.000 That the pedos are still out there? 1.00

00:59:07.000 I have no fucking clue. 1.00

00:59:08.000 Because he gets stuff from them. 0.99

00:59:10.000 Because they give him money.

00:59:11.000 Yeah, I'm not sure.

00:59:12.000 Because he uses that.

00:59:13.000 Yeah.

00:59:13.000 Because he wants to defeat the deep state and doesn't care what evil things he does to get it.

00:59:17.000 Well, now you're making an argument that it's okay that children were hurt here for political.

00:59:23.000 I'm saying the obvious motivation that Trump has as administration is he doesn't want these people to get back in power.

00:59:29.000 He doesn't want to go to prison.

00:59:31.000 He doesn't want his friends and lawyers to go to prison, and he doesn't care how he wins.

00:59:35.000 When when you are talking about war, they say all is fair and love in war.

00:59:39.000 And so there's a simple motivation.

00:59:41.000 Trump says there's a lot of powerful people in there who are gonna get hurt by this.

00:59:44.000 And what does that mean?

00:59:46.000 It means he's probably getting something from them in some capacity.

00:59:49.000 Donations, resources, or otherwise, and he wants to use that.

00:59:52.000 And whatever that means.

00:59:53.000 Or at bare minimum, he fears that if his release will cause damage to someone like Bill Gates who may actually do something that benefits.

00:59:59.000 I wonder if when he went to Ghilaine in prison and she and he was like, okay, first she came out and said Trump never did anything on tort, and then they moved her to minimum security.

01:00:06.000 I wonder if she gave him the other part of the puzzle, so now he has all the info for the blackmail.

01:00:10.000 Favorable treatment for Ghlaine Maxwell also is a very bad look here.

01:00:13.000 Okay.

01:00:14.000 Uh editing the footage, also a very bad look here. 0.99

01:00:17.000 Lying to the American people, treating us like we're stupid is a very bad look here. 0.97

01:00:20.000 If that's the actual case here, they should just say it. 1.00

01:00:23.000 That's like, listen, this this country's run on blackmail.

01:00:26.000 This is what's happening here, and they used it against us, so we're gonna use it.

01:00:30.000 So that's what should have been said here.

01:00:31.000 Do you believe that there is a current political war between the left and the right?

01:00:35.000 Of course.

01:00:35.000 Yeah.

01:00:36.000 And an intel agency war as well.

01:00:38.000 That also has them involved.

01:00:39.000 What do you think will happen if that's a thrive off of blackmail?

01:00:42.000 If what's gonna happen?

01:00:43.000 What do you think will happen if Democrats win back power?

01:00:45.000 They're gonna do what they always did.

01:00:46.000 Like what?

01:00:47.000 Um they're going to uh they're not gonna win the presidency.

01:00:50.000 No, no, no.

01:00:51.000 I'm saying, why wasn't it released when they were on the ask the question?

01:00:55.000 What happens when they win the Congress, when they win the House, the Senate, and the presidency?

01:00:58.000 What will they do?

01:01:00.000 Um probably I was gonna make an argument about Ukraine, but what Trump's already kind of being egregious about Ukraine.

01:01:09.000 So what are they gonna um try to implement uh socialism?

01:01:13.000 They're gonna open the border to 20 to 40 million more illegal immigrants.

01:01:17.000 They're going to finalize the criminal charges against Trump, which are still pending, arrest him and put him in prison.

01:01:23.000 They're gonna go after his lawyers, they're gonna arrest Bannon.

01:01:25.000 They are going to go after everyone like they did the J6ers. 1.00

01:01:29.000 They they they have shown us that they are capable, willing, and they will do it.

01:01:33.000 This is not a defense of Trump's handling of the Epstein files, because my position is Massey and Rokana are correct in doing this.

01:01:38.000 I also, however, recognize the underlying motivation that Trump has in almost everything he does is to make sure that he defeats the Democrats and they never regain power.

01:01:46.000 Hence, mass deportations and instructing his DOJ to go after these ballot harvesting schemes and mail-in ballots.

01:01:52.000 If we defeat them there, they will not regain power in this current form.

01:01:56.000 Democrats may win in the future if their party changes and they actually start getting rid of the law fair.

01:02:02.000 But I believe, based on what we've already seen, like the arrest of Steve Bannon, like the arrest of Trump's lawyers in multiple states, the false criminal charges, the false rape uh civil uh case, the false uh fraud case in New York, the raid on his home, the 20-year sentences for Proud Boys who weren't even in DC at the time.

01:02:22.000 If Democrats win again, they will do everything to destroy you and me and everyone else.

01:02:29.000 So that being said, Trump has mishandled this, and by his mishandling, and Dan and Cash and Pam, there is no other position but sorry, guys.

01:02:40.000 Rokana, Massey, roll.

01:02:42.000 Well, I just think that's a position of you just passed you have the blackmail, so let's use it.

01:02:47.000 I mean, I understand that position.

01:02:48.000 That's not necessarily what he's doing.

01:02:50.000 I think a lot of people make that argument, and it's entirely possible.

01:02:53.000 I'm giving a much more simple argument in that collateral damage will hit powerful business magnates that provide resources to Republicans in some way.

01:03:01.000 If you deserve to fail because of your associations to predators and your association to hurting children and going to islands where children were hurt, you deserve to fail.

01:03:09.000 I don't think that's the same thing.

01:03:10.000 And I think those institutions need to fail.

01:03:11.000 Those need institutions need to be held accountable.

01:03:13.000 And guess what?

01:03:14.000 The economy's gonna be the economy's already a Ponzi's.

01:03:16.000 I don't care about the economy.

01:03:17.000 Let me ask you this.

01:03:18.000 Do you think any uh top level democrat democrats were involved in child trafficking?

01:03:21.000 Absolutely.

01:03:22.000 Do you think they will increase that when they win again?

01:03:24.000 What do you mean increase justice?

01:03:25.000 Do you think they will bring back Epstein Island once they're back in power?

01:03:28.000 There's probably already a second one already.

01:03:30.000 And who you think is running it?

01:03:31.000 The CIA.

01:03:32.000 Do you think when these people have have power of law behind them again, it will get worse?

01:03:37.000 Yeah.

01:03:37.000 Welcome to war.

01:03:39.000 There is no easy answer.

01:03:41.000 Of course.

01:03:41.000 We know that if they get power, it's gonna go 100fold because we know that they were trafficking kids trafficking kids at the border, and Trump put a stop to this.

01:03:48.000 It is not easy.

01:03:49.000 Yeah, Luke, why aren't you more passionate about the thousands of little kids that get sex trafficked and labor trafficked and the southern border?

01:03:57.000 Complete silence about everything that happened in the invasion.

01:04:00.000 But there was no complete silence.

01:04:02.000 I was actually talking about that alone.

01:04:03.000 Okay, but then how come why well, why isn't the focus also on the horrific things that happen?

01:04:09.000 And and this I will say that.

01:04:11.000 That doesn't excuse thousands of children being put on islands and hurt here.

01:04:14.000 That doesn't excuse that, right?

01:04:17.000 But it is very sensational.

01:04:20.000 You have a government that is not currently trafficking children.

01:04:23.000 Yes.

01:04:23.000 They have evidence that some people did.

01:04:25.000 If the evidence and it's hypothetical, I'm not saying it's literally what's happening.

01:04:29.000 If the evidence is released, that political party loses power to sex traffickers.

01:04:33.000 Those sex traffickers will get into office and then traffic children. 1.00

01:04:36.000 Is that preferable for you? 0.97

01:04:37.000 Uh I don't think that's gonna happen.

01:04:39.000 I don't think that's a likely scenario.

01:04:40.000 It's called a conditional hypothetical.

01:04:42.000 Can you answer it?

01:04:42.000 Yeah, if you give me that hypothetical, sure, I guess, but I don't think it's probable at all.

01:04:46.000 I don't think that's a realistic exposing the predators in our society who are still out there walking in the streets hurting more children now as we speak because they have the means and the ways and the money and the influence to do so, and we excuse that as a country is is is something that of course we voted against this last election.

01:05:03.000 We were promised justice.

01:05:04.000 We were promised by libertarians.

01:05:06.000 We were going to actually hold these powerful people accountable who pull the strings in Washington, DC, that they were finally gonna have a reckoning because we're gonna stop them from being lawless, right?

01:05:16.000 We were gonna say we're gonna be a la a country of law and order, right?

01:05:19.000 So you're taking the you're taking the position you're you're taking the deontological position.

01:05:23.000 It doesn't matter if a million people die based on your actions, if your actions save one person.

01:05:28.000 That's the deontological approach.

01:05:29.000 You're playing all this hypothetical.

01:05:31.000 No, it's called scenarios.

01:05:33.000 You're saying if we release the Epstein list, Democrats are gonna win. 0.94

01:05:35.000 I'm saying that's not what's gonna happen.

01:05:39.000 What was the hypothetical again?

01:05:41.000 This is a trolley a classic trolley problem.

01:05:44.000 Right now, the reporting that we have is that Trump doesn't want to damage his resources behind the scene by by exposing them in the Epstein files.

01:05:52.000 We don't know that that's the case.

01:05:54.000 So once again, I am in favor of Thomas Massey and Rocano's resolution to release it because Trump and his team have have mishandled this.

01:06:00.000 And I'm not saying it is definitive that this keeps Trump in office.

01:06:04.000 I am bringing up the point that you have an absolutist approach where you're saying it doesn't matter what happens, do it anyway.

01:06:10.000 Yes, because of how egregious all the crimes are.

01:06:12.000 If you pull the trolley lever, you will kill a million people, and if you leave it where it is, you kill one.

01:06:18.000 Yes, but that's not related to the You're saying pull the lever. 0.57

01:06:21.000 I'm I'm saying pull the lever where we actually have a government that represents us, and is it run on blackmail, which we deserve.

01:06:28.000 I actually think right now, for the most part, we don't.

01:06:31.000 I think the Trump administration winning has routed the deep state in numerous ways and it's exemplified every day in the action, especially with Comey being indicted.

01:06:40.000 And the the pardons of J Sixers. 0.89

01:06:42.000 And and don't forget, uh, every day Cash and Dan are locking up predators, and it's one of their biggest focus.

01:06:49.000 It's a big focus of theirs that the Democrats didn't have.

01:06:53.000 What are the reasons why a lot of people have these Charlie conspiracy theories is because the FBI has lost all trust and legitimacy.

01:06:59.000 And they're saying that the FBI lied to us about Epstein.

01:07:02.000 They're probably lying to us about Charlie right now.

01:07:03.000 Agree.

01:07:04.000 So they're spreading the the theory.

01:07:05.000 We all agree here that they've mishandled the Epstein.

01:07:07.000 But all of this, though, we have to also remember that that that sentiment from the American people didn't start in the last, you know, four years or or whatever.

01:07:17.000 Like this has been a long time.

01:07:19.000 Look at JFK.

01:07:20.000 I mean, this and that's fine to ask questions.

01:07:23.000 I don't, you know, I don't want to live in this world where you can't ask questions and and you can't be passionate about what you what you believe in and all this stuff, but at the same time, so that sentiment didn't happen, you know, over the last just because of this FBI and this administration.

01:07:37.000 This stuff has been going on, if not worse.

01:07:39.000 Like I actually I trust I trust these guys.

01:07:42.000 Like I let I trust my president.

01:07:44.000 I trust this FBI and doing what they need to be doing.

01:07:47.000 Do you think they told you the truth about the Epstein list?

01:07:49.000 I think that we're not going to be able to do that.

01:07:50.000 Yes or no did they tell you the truth.

01:07:52.000 It's not as simple but you're talking about like legislation.

01:07:54.000 You're talking about it.

01:07:55.000 No, I'm asking you a question.

01:07:57.000 When Trump says it's a Democrat coke believe them. 0.83

01:08:02.000 That we here at this table we we are not privy to.

01:08:06.000 Now it's not a Democrat hoax.

01:08:09.000 He doesn't know he does not handle this.

01:08:11.000 Yeah and I think like Trump is also just he he gets really frustrated with people that aren't trusting the plan.

01:08:16.000 I know it sounds like a little cliche but it's true and and to be fair to to Trump's point is after the Epstein thing was completely botched, which I mean I'm a Trump guy I'm fully I'm fully willing to admit what it was not handled very well.

01:08:28.000 Polling didn't really budge.

01:08:29.000 Like the vast majority of Americans are not online.

01:08:32.000 They're watching Fox News if you watch Fox News that's why Bondi and Trump are so confused over why there's a segment of the right that doesn't that isn't political sees this and I think if you if they did you would see it in the polling you live in you live in an arco libertarian Bitcoin world.

01:08:48.000 We've gone over the polling on the show like 700 times.

01:08:51.000 I live in Miami.

01:08:52.000 That's where I live coin world and I and I see a portion of the voter base that decided to vote for for the first time and that base and and a lot of Americans even Americans that aren't politically inclined have been talking about this and this is an issue and this is an issue that's very important for a lot of people.

01:09:09.000 But it's not important enough for any major pollster to actually consider in a campaign.

01:09:13.000 Who's doing all the polls people who have uh still uh uh landlined and are picking up their phones you are completely wrong about it talking about his his team I'm talking about as consultants people like Charlie Kirk what what he was doing and I'm talking about people like Alex Brusowitz Charlie Kirk's behind the scenes was saying release the Epstein list and I agree with that my point is this is not a principal issue for Americans and the polling shows that they mostly don't know what it is.

01:09:34.000 Why was Charlie Kirk then behind the scenes trying to work with Donald Trump to release the list right he saw this as an important issue because the young people did believe that this was a duration Luke.

01:09:44.000 I don't know about that.

01:09:45.000 I think when it comes to Congress and things like that, I think your constituents, their will should matter with something like this.

01:09:53.000 So I don't know about the influencer world and all this stuff.

01:09:55.000 If people are working behind the scenes, I think ultimately when it comes to like legislation and things like that, again, if it's something that your people are asking about and all that, then okay.

01:10:07.000 And then you have conversations, but you don't just sit there and look at what Twitter is saying.

01:10:12.000 And there's a lot of BS out there.

01:10:13.000 And I'm not saying that this situation is entirely BS, but there's a lot out there that a lot of it is driven by sensationalism and by... 0.99

01:10:22.000 by the way the Democrats love this they love when this we gotta jump to this stop giving them weapons just really quick release their list or not yes or not gonna I'm like there's no you're trying like I'm not sure if I'm gonna get a clear you stand on this I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fall for that like that's that's a stupid like trying gotcha question.

01:10:40.000 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna it's just I've come to think like I trust cash to lie about the right things and sometimes you use evil to create order and that's how the world has always been and sometimes you just do it.

01:10:51.000 I mean if you know I think the only answer you could actually have is I'm not sure.

01:10:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:10:56.000 Because not giving an answer people are gonna accuse you of running you know sniffing Trump's ass or whatever. 0.85

01:11:02.000 But if if if the honest answer is honestly I'm not sure I want to see what my well I want to I would want to see what the people my constituency would want. 0.94

01:11:10.000 Yeah if I got to move we're gonna jump to the next story instead of uh arguing all day four hours on that from the Blaze.com China behind massive nationwide sim farm uh sim farm network that directly threatens American critical infrastructure and uh low um they were attacking me personally you're in the story China launched a international uh attack on critical American infrastructure and personnel is which included me this is pretty crazy

01:11:40.000 uh this is wild uh so the discovery of sim farms that threaten cellular networks in New York City is only the tip of the massive nationwide network run by Chinese communist government that poses an immediate threat to critical infrastructure and has led to terrorist attacks including hoax SWAT raids at the homes of national leaders Blaze knew uh Blaze News has learned so DHS located this.

01:12:01.000 Look at this.

01:12:01.000 There's tons of them.

01:12:02.000 Check this out.

01:12:03.000 They say this is uh it's absolutely an act of war, according to a top uh intelligence official speaking with Blaze uh Blaze News, a direct threat to our nation and needs to be shut down today like ASAP.

01:12:15.000 Only five of them have been taken down so far.

01:12:17.000 Uh let me just read where where let me let me find where in the article.

01:12:22.000 So this was the fake cell towers that were used to do uh the swattings. 0.92

01:12:27.000 Is that correct?

01:12:28.000 This is what they're reporting.

01:12:30.000 And let me jump to the portion.

01:12:33.000 It says recently these sim farms are believed to be responsible for dozens of hoax SWAT raids, including a senior U.S. Secret Service official, FBI director Cash Patel, members of Congress, including uh Marjorie Taylor Green, and media influencers such as Tim Poole and Steve Bannon.

01:12:50.000 Well then, what do I get?

01:12:52.000 Do I win a prize?

01:12:53.000 Is the federal government going to give me a cookie or something?

01:12:55.000 You are the tip of the spear.

01:12:56.000 Congratulations.

01:12:56.000 You get a Chinese fortune cookie.

01:12:58.000 Welcome to the future.

01:12:59.000 Yeah, I have to wonder too, with the uh a lot of the threats that we get.

01:13:02.000 Um as I mentioned recently, I've been in direct contact with the FBI, like actual over the threats we've been receiving because they've ramped up substantially.

01:13:11.000 And one question has always been are these actually foreign uh state actors.

01:13:17.000 And my argument in response to this story is two things.

01:13:21.000 Yes, I believe them when they say China is behind this.

01:13:24.000 However, we also have evidence that not all of the SWATs were from the same source.

01:13:29.000 And we do have evidence, and we've submitted this to the FBI in the previous administration, that it likely came from a leftist.

01:13:34.000 And I have evidence that I can't speak publicly about.

01:13:37.000 It would compromise any investigation.

01:13:39.000 Um but we have we have uh we have we have evidence.

01:13:43.000 Uh additionally when we get these death threats, and then you go online and see the people saying them in videos, we know it's Americans doing it.

01:13:53.000 So I do believe that there are foreign actors that are trying to fan the flames by sending us death threats and launching these hoax SWAT rates. 0.99

01:13:59.000 We also know for a fact some of it is coming from leftists.

01:14:02.000 How do we know uh that it's China?

01:14:04.000 I I know we're getting some of the reporting here, but I haven't seen any kind of because they have a source at DHS, numerous that have confirmed to them, and that's what their reporting is based on.

01:14:13.000 So if you trust the Blaze, then you can believe it, and if you don't, then you don't believe it.

01:14:18.000 I trust DHS.

01:14:19.000 China's a good boogie, man. 1.00

01:14:21.000 But I'm not saying that it wasn't China.

01:14:23.000 It it's crazy to say, but there are there are people in this administration that I have known for years, and I don't think they're lying to me.

01:14:29.000 You know, it is the kind of thing where if if an actual American did a SWAT and then you know, Chinese are watching this right now, Chinese, they're they're tapped to show, they love it.

01:14:37.000 Probably a bunch of them love it.

01:14:38.000 What's up, guys?

01:14:39.000 Uh I'll be in China soon.

01:14:40.000 That's my plan.

01:14:42.000 Um that they're like, ooh, let's copycat.

01:14:44.000 Let's make Tim or whoever think that's a good thing.

01:14:46.000 They're gonna harvest Ian's organs.

01:14:48.000 We're never gonna see him again.

01:14:49.000 I'm gonna meditate in the mountains, baby.

01:14:50.000 We're gonna make videos about it.

01:14:52.000 Beautiful Western mountains of the ancient shoe empire.

01:14:54.000 I'm there with you.

01:14:56.000 Um that it's easy to copycat.

01:14:58.000 So you get one crime in America, and then foreign actors are like, let's replicate that and make them think that it's coming from within, psych them out, you know, get them to turn on each other. 0.99

01:15:08.000 100%.

01:15:08.000 Yeah.

01:15:09.000 It's so important that we hold it together.

01:15:11.000 I think because of this, and uh things like this, it's so important that we as Americans keep cohesion.

01:15:16.000 The more that we are divided, whether it's politics, culture, whatever it is, you're allowing an open door for the enemy within and without to completely take their chance.

01:15:29.000 And that's been that's historically been the cycle.

01:15:33.000 And that's why it's so important that to your point.

01:15:36.000 We do remain united and we do uncover these things when they happen, but um it's important that we don't show that we're, you know, everything that's going on, the weakness, you know, sometimes that is caused by again the media, unfortunate circumstance like horrific circumstances that are done by horrific people.

01:15:58.000 Um, but uh at the end of the day, what we can control is to remain united as much as possible.

01:16:03.000 Yeah, well, I think people like Americans are Americans with the right, are really burnt out with foreign entanglements. 0.99

01:16:09.000 They hear the GOP, they're you know, these swamp creatures like banging on and on about the CCP.

01:16:14.000 And so they kind of roll their eyes and say, okay, this is a boogeyman.

01:16:16.000 But like legitimately is.

01:16:17.000 I mean, this is this story is a good example of like, no, they actually are our leading global adversary.

01:16:21.000 Uh yes, they are trying to undermine our country.

01:16:24.000 Yes, they are threatened by the Trump administration's efficiency and and and you know their a their ability to uh sort of show strength uh globally.

01:16:32.000 So it's like yeah, I I understand.

01:16:34.000 I you know, I see a lot of people typically they kind of just roll their eyes at the C C P dooming or they kind of you know hand wave it away. 0.93

01:16:41.000 But they are legitimately, and they're I mean, the story proves they're they're they have a lot of uh they're making a lot of plays in the United States.

01:16:48.000 Well, technically doesn't prove it, it it is evidence because the claims themselves aren't proved.

01:16:52.000 Sure, you know, but you know, if this if this reporting is true, it just adds to the list of of ways the C CP is you know, actively meddling in the United States.

01:17:01.000 Well, they're the story that I'm reading is talking about how they were uh bot farmers, how they could have capabilities to send out 30 million techs per minute under the type of equipment that they had.

01:17:12.000 Uh they had more than a hundred thousand sim cards that were also seized.

01:17:17.000 And uh I I think there's a lot more to this, and automatically I would love to see some evidence highlighting how uh China was involved here, because I think there's a possibility for uh a false flag potential too, especially with how just uh angry the intelligence agencies have been within the last few years, especially under the Biden administration against independent media, against content creators, uh, and they have acted against them like we saw with what happened to Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, and James O'Keefe.

01:17:44.000 So I I wouldn't be surprised if the swatting actually came from uh inside the house and that China's just being blamed right now for it, personally.

01:17:52.000 You said how many texts per minute?

01:17:54.000 600 million texts per minute?

01:17:55.000 30 million.

01:17:56.000 30 million text per minute.

01:17:57.000 This is industrialized psychological warfare.

01:17:59.000 We we've we've come to that age now with first computation, electrical computation, now artificial intelligence.

01:18:05.000 Like the machine gun was industrialized warfare.

01:18:08.000 You churn men into the grinder.

01:18:10.000 That started in the early 19th century.

01:18:11.000 Now we're seeing this rapid psychological manipulation that's inconceivable.

01:18:17.000 30 million techs per minute.

01:18:19.000 What human can keep up with that?

01:18:21.000 How do you even know what's real and what's not?

01:18:23.000 And that's the point.

01:18:23.000 That's the point of it a lot of times.

01:18:26.000 Yeah.

01:18:27.000 It's definitely not past the CCP to be bot farming.

01:18:29.000 I mean, there was, I think it was during during it's like right before, right during COVID, when Twitter removed like tens of thousands of profiles that were just spamming like pro CCP stuff all the time.

01:18:40.000 And it's like um, I mean, yeah, you saw it, you saw a lot of it during COVID was a lot of I guess disinformation, which is a bit cringe, but it's I guess all this to say it's really not past a CCP to be bot farming.

01:18:49.000 And and I think in this article it said that this is this specific, you know, battery farming has been going on since like 04.

01:18:56.000 I think every government should be bot farming.

01:18:57.000 I mean, it's a psychological war.

01:18:59.000 You have to have some control over the media narrative as a nation.

01:19:02.000 I hope we all I hope the America's got a great one too.

01:19:04.000 And like you saw Israel now is wants to buy TikTok.

01:19:08.000 I'm not sure if that purchase went through.

01:19:09.000 It comes from China, America's like stomp it down and then Israel's gonna buy it. 0.99

01:19:12.000 Well, it's not Israel, it's uh Larry Ellison.

01:19:15.000 Okay, head of Oracle, uh second richest man in the United States, worth 450 billion, roughly.

01:19:20.000 Um I know he's he's in the pocket, not in the pocket, but he's tight with Trump, Larry Ellison.

01:19:24.000 Is he tight with the Israelis?

01:19:25.000 Why did the why did Israel okay? 0.72

01:19:27.000 So he is tight with Israel.

01:19:28.000 I mean, the Israeli American Psy connection is very tight.

01:19:32.000 And you saw that with Ghilain Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, allegedly or provably working with Masad.

01:19:37.000 Like no one's like thinking we're not super tight with Israeli intelligence.

01:19:42.000 The five eyes.

01:19:42.000 I'm I don't know how involved Israel is with the five eyes, but um I don't know so I don't know why I brought it up.

01:19:48.000 That's more of a Can we talk about how the CCP was using uh using Venezuelan passports to that illegally enter our country and why wasn't like can that be more investigated?

01:20:00.000 Can we find out what type of bad actors were coming in to our country because of a border invasion? 0.99

01:20:07.000 I mean, there's so much stuff here that happened under the Biden administration, complete subversion, all these little nuances.

01:20:15.000 I hope every single thing is investigated.

01:20:17.000 Yes, that's very sophisticated.

01:20:18.000 What's happening here and to Tim and these influencers and and members and things like that is very sophisticated.

01:20:25.000 But what also was going on and what is already in our country.

01:20:30.000 Yeah.

01:20:30.000 Well, it's just nice that Trump doesn't even need a bot farm.

01:20:33.000 He just has like a bunch of sensitive young patriots just posting non-stop.

01:20:38.000 I mean, look at DHS, like that guy, he's not even getting paid right now.

01:20:41.000 The government's shut now, he's just letting it fly.

01:20:42.000 It's like we don't even need the bot farm.

01:20:44.000 We just got how sad is it that Netanyahu needs $7,000 to do that?

01:20:48.000 Real.

01:20:49.000 Donald Trump can be like post for me, and everyone's like, yeah, and then that yeah is like, we'll give you $7,000.

01:20:54.000 Perhaps wild. 0.98

01:20:56.000 I want you to call Gavin Newsom gay. 0.98

01:20:58.000 Everyone post it right now. 0.95

01:20:59.000 They'll do it.

01:21:00.000 And I'd be like, let's post a sombrero meme and everyone just goes sombrero nuts.

01:21:04.000 It's crazy how many people are for hire in this industry.

01:21:07.000 I think there should be a label.

01:21:08.000 There should be something on Twitter that says, hey, uh I've taken money to shill for this country.

01:21:14.000 Yep.

01:21:14.000 And and why haven't those rules been followed with this particular case here?

01:21:18.000 I don't understand.

01:21:19.000 People like to talk about Qatari money, but the you know Israeli money's there too, clearly.

01:21:24.000 So uh it it needs to be uh exposed so we could actually get to the bottom of who's financing and trying to, of course.

01:21:29.000 Uh what did the Democrats say the Russians were doing uh when when Trump was running for the presidency for the first time?

01:21:35.000 What were they doing?

01:21:37.000 Well, that Trump worked for Russia.

01:21:38.000 You know, no, but they they said Russia was meddling in our pol uh in our political system.

01:21:42.000 Oh, sure.

01:21:43.000 Uh yeah.

01:21:43.000 Really it was obliged to be a good thing.

01:21:45.000 You mentioned uh Venezuela, Catalina earlier.

01:21:48.000 Did you guys see that the Trump administrators just blew up the fourth Venezuelan boat?

01:21:51.000 Allegedly, they called them terrorists.

01:21:53.000 I don't know if they were alleged terrorists, to my knowledge, but they just hit it.

01:21:57.000 Nope, no congressional I mean.

01:21:58.000 What do you need Congress for?

01:22:00.000 Maybe to declare war on somebody, maybe to do that.

01:22:03.000 It's an international open waters.

01:22:04.000 I mean, what do you think?

01:22:05.000 We haven't done that in a while.

01:22:08.000 What country are they bomb?

01:22:08.000 Well, they bomb a Venezuelan piece of technology right off the coast of Venezuela.

01:22:12.000 That's what they told us.

01:22:13.000 So for all you know, it could have been Chinese.

01:22:15.000 For all I know it didn't even happen.

01:22:16.000 Exactly.

01:22:16.000 If your argument is allegedly it was Venezuela, then my argument to you is okay, so it was moon men made of cheese.

01:22:23.000 Right.

01:22:23.000 And how would that be any better?

01:22:24.000 Well, just hit that change.

01:22:27.000 Ian, just say it was a boat coming from Venezuela off the coast of Venezuela.

01:22:31.000 And they're not going to be able to do that.

01:22:32.000 Oh, maybe the moon men are trying to steal our cheese to rebuild the moon and make it bigger, and we don't want that.

01:22:36.000 That's a good point.

01:22:37.000 If you knew their intention, but uh they said they're cartailing drugs in, and uh they are definitely have hostility towards the Venezuelan government.

01:22:44.000 Somebody said we're gonna invade Venezuela.

01:22:46.000 Like, here's an awesome question.

01:22:47.000 You know, when uh when we got leaked information that they were killing civilians in a foreign country that we never declared war on and invaded anyway.

01:22:56.000 Uh that was that was that was terrifying.

01:22:59.000 Um But there's legitimate purpose of military use, which is not nation building in Afghanistan.

01:23:03.000 So when Trump says we're gonna secure our border, oh look, narco-terrorists are are are are driving in. 1.00

01:23:08.000 Here's the video of it.

01:23:10.000 I go.

01:23:11.000 Well, I don't necessarily just trust you, but there is a world of difference between collateral murder when the U.S. killed a Reuters journalist overseas and then tried covering it up, and Trump being like, I'm gonna show you what we're doing in international waters because these guys are drug runners.

01:23:26.000 The question then becomes, okay, all right, let I I would like to see evidence of this beyond just the video.

01:23:31.000 I'd like to see documentation, whatever proof they can afford.

01:23:34.000 But I'm actually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

01:23:36.000 It's very different.

01:23:37.000 The question I would have it the first question I ask is what are these boats doing otherwise?

01:23:41.000 Is it a group of fishermen enjoying a nice speed boat to the Caribbean and Trump just blew them up?

01:23:45.000 I really doubt it.

01:23:46.000 Why didn't they watch the boat come to the shore, watch it land, and then get the guys after they deboard it.

01:23:51.000 Yeah, detain them, then blow them up.

01:23:53.000 Right, cargo process here.

01:23:56.000 Did you guys see the video uh recently where actually there are a lot of people law enforcement?

01:24:02.000 The one of the boats is firing back at them.

01:24:05.000 So what so we don't know what happened?

01:24:08.000 Ian, didn't you see the discord messages?

01:24:13.000 They loved each other and that the other boat pilot was not actually, in fact, uh trafficking drugs.

01:24:18.000 Yeah, these guys sound freaky.

01:24:19.000 Blow them out of the water. 0.97

01:24:20.000 Get them out of here. 0.80

01:24:21.000 One of them was uh one of them was a furry.

01:24:24.000 But honestly, I would love to have seen them let let them land and then take them and take the cargo and show people instead of just blowing up all the evidence.

01:24:33.000 Like make an example out of them.

01:24:34.000 Like these are the drugs coming in here.

01:24:36.000 I mean, the war on drugs is a farce anyway.

01:24:38.000 It's all just the cover for the kind of oil-rich uh nation that Venezuela is, a failed communistic state.

01:24:44.000 Uh but there's a reason Trump declared Maduro a drug trafficker and then recently declared war on drug traffickers and how Venezuela is becoming very closely aligned with Russia, China, and Iran.

01:24:57.000 And uh now we're flying uh military jets and fighter pilots and and naval assets.

01:25:03.000 I mean it's discussion of drone bombing Venezuela.

01:25:05.000 Not only that, there's require declaration of war.

01:25:07.000 There's practices of land invasion happening right now in Puerto Rico of American military service members.

01:25:13.000 So uh I I do believe we are headed towards the kind of whether kinetic or non-kinetic type of war between the United States and Venezuela.

01:25:21.000 It ain't just the United States of Venezuela, though.

01:25:23.000 Of course.

01:25:24.000 It's BRICS and it's all the other nations involved that for me.

01:25:28.000 What I'm seeing is it's gonna be uh Iran next, Venezuela, and then essentially Russia.

01:25:33.000 What about Iran?

01:25:33.000 That's how the that's what I said, Iran first.

01:25:36.000 What why what are they gonna do in Iran, do you think?

01:25:37.000 Uh the uh the They're gonna do a regime change and they're gonna probably start bombing sometime soon.

01:25:42.000 Uh American uh refueling aircraft is already being sent.

01:25:46.000 Gaza's being wrapped up as soon as Gaza wraps up.

01:25:48.000 There's conflicting information right now about Trump pushing the Israelis towards a peace deal that Israelis kind of pushing back right now.

01:25:54.000 But I think uh I the the vice president and the president just uh retweeted Hamas, uh which is uh very interesting, and Trump ordered BB to stop bombing Gaza.

01:26:05.000 So far, the reports are coming in that BB has not listened to him.

01:26:08.000 Just like during the time when uh BB was bombing Iran, Trump told him to stop.

01:26:13.000 He didn't, he sent more bombs.

01:26:15.000 Uh again, kind of humiliating, attacking Donald Trump once again on the international world stage.

01:26:20.000 Okay, but hold on.

01:26:21.000 Trump retweeted the Hamas statement.

01:26:24.000 The statement of where they agreed to his show of strength of what he proposed.

01:26:31.000 So how is that just be he's that's how is what is the fine line to you then of sharing a fact to sensationalizing it?

01:26:40.000 And then I also want to.

01:26:40.000 No, no, no, I'm I'm sharing a fact.

01:26:42.000 It happened.

01:26:42.000 Okay, I'm not I'm not I'm not placing judgment on it, right?

01:26:45.000 I'm just telling people, hey, it happened.

01:26:46.000 For all this conversation about Iran and the doomsday that we're going to war and all stuff, what what is then your spectrum of going to war and then showing strength in an administration?

01:27:00.000 Do you want do you want us to be like Biden that just sat there and everybody just was completely not afraid of us?

01:27:05.000 He gave the CIA uh carte blanche to do whatever they wanted to do in Ukraine, and uh he uh did a lot of kind of aggressive military actions as well.

01:27:13.000 So uh I wouldn't say he was so what is your spectrum of we're gonna go to war to okay let's actually show people that we're not meant to be F around with and so what is your spectrum of the case?

01:27:27.000 So why why should we go to war?

01:27:28.000 What why should we go to work to show strength?

01:27:30.000 I'm asking I don't get it.

01:27:31.000 I'm asking, I'm asking what your spectrum of a decision by the commander in chief.

01:27:36.000 What is what to you what level to you is complete war or sh doing what it takes to make sure that our adversaries know not to mess with the United States?

01:27:50.000 Uh that's a very kind of fine line, and I could answer that in many different ways, but obviously you could use the carrot and the stick.

01:27:56.000 I think we've been using a lot of stick.

01:27:58.000 I think we need to use carrots.

01:27:59.000 I think we need to promote diplomacy, and I think a lot of the problems could be solved through just economic free trade capitalism and deals that could be made right now that could promote more prosperity rather than this kind of war footing that we're on that I think is incorrect.

01:28:15.000 Nobody wants war, okay?

01:28:16.000 However, do we think in the history of history that like did you support the bombing of Iran?

01:28:23.000 We are just going to like get away with this stuff through like peace and love.

01:28:28.000 I'm not saying that.

01:28:29.000 I just said the stick, I just said the stick and the carrot, and I said it should be a two-pronged approach where we're strong, but at the same time, war should be a last resort. 0.60

01:28:35.000 Diplomacy should always be used.

01:28:37.000 Uh Trump this this time around has been bombing a lot of countries.

01:28:40.000 He bombed Yemen, he bombed Iran. 0.97

01:28:42.000 Did you support the bombing?

01:28:43.000 But but I want to ask you a question.

01:28:44.000 Did you support uh the bombing of Iran?

01:28:46.000 I supported President Trump's decision, and and guess what?

01:28:49.000 Everybody was wrong that all the doomsday people said it was gonna lead to war.

01:28:54.000 We're in World War III.

01:28:56.000 It's like we didn't even give the administration a chance to do they have more intelligence.

01:29:02.000 They have more intelligence than any of us again.

01:29:05.000 It's disingenuous when it's a very important thing.

01:29:06.000 So when somebody trusts, I trust the president of the United States and making decisions, especially when it comes to foreign policy and what he needs to do to get things done.

01:29:14.000 Why is all of a sudden it has to be sensationalized that we're going to World War III?

01:29:18.000 It's like, why even I never even said that?

01:29:22.000 But yes, you did.

01:29:23.000 You said literally maybe.

01:29:25.000 We're going to war with Venezuela.

01:29:27.000 Yeah, that that that there probably will be a conflict with Venezuela, probably, uh, with the way that things are shaping up.

01:29:33.000 I mean, you don't bring in the military, uh, you don't prep for the invasion.

01:29:36.000 You don't send in the the military if that's not an option.

01:29:39.000 Obviously, all those options are on the table.

01:29:41.000 Obviously, we hope and pray Donald Trump uh makes the decision that's going to bring peace, not war.

01:29:46.000 You're also assuming that these pe that's that people that terrorists in particular are are gonna come to the negotiating table when it comes to economic sanctions and things like that.

01:29:56.000 Sometimes they don't intelligence just bomb them, just bomb everyone and start wars.

01:30:01.000 What is your solution?

01:30:02.000 I think given No, no, by the way.

01:30:08.000 Dean specific bioweapons.

01:30:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:30:11.000 That's that sounds great.

01:30:12.000 Or you know, nuclear war is.

01:30:15.000 What are you calling for exactly?

01:30:17.000 Like what's your position?

01:30:17.000 What's your What's your position exactly?

01:30:20.000 Because I'm saying we need more diplomacy.

01:30:21.000 Are you saying we need more war?

01:30:23.000 You're saying okay, but you're saying that that a situation where we show strength automatically leads to war.

01:30:30.000 That's exactly what we're doing.

01:30:30.000 No, I'm not saying that.

01:30:31.000 You just you just said that.

01:30:32.000 I'm saying we have been at war for if I say that I agreed with the commander in chief's decision that ultimately. 0.66

01:30:39.000 I think you're gonna say that regardless, no matter what the issue is, uh because you're running as a politician and and I'm not I'm running as a a servant to my district that overwhelmingly overwhelmingly supported President Trump and supports his decision as commander in chief.

01:30:55.000 I'm uh if if we have intelligence that a foreign adversary is directly impacting the United States and Americans and our interests, why why shouldn't the commander in chief then make a give us an example a logical decision to then do what he has to do?

01:31:14.000 Which is what happened in Iran.

01:31:16.000 And that did not lead to World War III, by the way, which everybody then screamed at at that choice.

01:31:21.000 But then it's gotta be careful.

01:31:24.000 But it made an impact and it made it because if you're arguing line.

01:31:27.000 You're the the the uh just just to be pedantic.

01:31:30.000 Some argued that it it would ignite World War III at the moment.

01:31:35.000 The actions Trump took with Iran could still be a contributing factor to the escalation of tensions between BRICS and NATO.

01:31:41.000 It also conflict.

01:31:44.000 Iran definitely couldn't. 0.99

01:31:46.000 Iran literally goes to China afterwards.

01:31:49.000 That were designed 20 years ago specifically for bunker bustering Iran, and that would not inflame tensions.

01:31:54.000 Of course it will inflame tensions.

01:31:55.000 It inflamed tensions and it stopped the negotiations happening in Russia right now.

01:31:59.000 The deals that were supposed to be made, Putin was watching the negotiations and said, do not bomb Iran.

01:32:05.000 He saw the bad faith actors in those negotiations, and and it affected the negotiations with Ukraine.

01:32:10.000 So you can't say it had no effect, everything's fine when there we're still very close towards another war with Iran. 0.72

01:32:16.000 China is now becoming closely aligned with Iran and now Venezuela, and we are becoming and going on this kind of trajectory that we should be using diplomacy that that would be a lot to do.

01:32:27.000 BRICS already exists.

01:32:29.000 Of course.

01:32:29.000 We don't have a conversation about China and Iran becoming close.

01:32:32.000 They they're close.

01:32:33.000 But also, but they're coming even closer and becoming more on a war footing.

01:32:37.000 And now more war equipment is being is being shared, and now we're all we're we're being brought closer to this type of bigger conflict, which I think we should be doing everything to avoid.

01:32:46.000 Do you think in any case showing a show of strength is necessary?

01:32:51.000 What do you define that as?

01:32:53.000 Any show of strength?

01:32:54.000 Because negotiating in bad faith.

01:32:59.000 I don't think they're gonna be flexing other worlds.

01:33:02.000 Obviously, like taking out Solomon, for example.

01:33:05.000 Do you believe that there is do you believe in the world?

01:33:09.000 I asked you a bunch of questions that you still never answer them.

01:33:11.000 I answered a lot of your questions.

01:33:12.000 No, you haven't.

01:33:13.000 You answered that.

01:33:14.000 So you supported you supported the bombing of Iran and you thought that brings peace. 0.98

01:33:17.000 Yes?

01:33:18.000 I said I suppose.

01:33:20.000 Are we in peace right now?

01:33:22.000 Yes, President Trump's decision.

01:33:24.000 I don't know about it.

01:33:25.000 We are not currently at war with Iran.

01:33:26.000 It was a 12-day war.

01:33:27.000 We we the United States crushed them, and then they said, okay, we're done.

01:33:31.000 Okay, so what's what's the solution?

01:33:32.000 What do you what are you trying to get at?

01:33:33.000 Solution of what?

01:33:34.000 Uh the the questions that she's got to be.

01:33:35.000 We bomb a country in between, just as a consolation. 0.90

01:33:38.000 I think that'd be true.

01:33:39.000 We just sacrifice some children at the altar of the military industrial complex, and then as soon as we sacrifice Timolik and the demons out there.

01:33:48.000 Then it's fine.

01:33:48.000 Just a little bit.

01:33:49.000 Just a little bit of intervention, just a bunch of war.

01:33:53.000 Completely manipulating what I said.

01:33:55.000 I said, war, peace through strength.

01:33:58.000 That and I don't believe that all these these situ the decisions from the commander-in-chief, given the intelligence that he receives that is again above all of our pay grades here, ultimately he makes a decision that doesn't lead to war.

01:34:14.000 That doesn't fuel the military industrial complex.

01:34:16.000 Believe me, I'm the wife of a veteran who who served in the global war on terror.

01:34:20.000 I'm completely against the military industrial complex.

01:34:23.000 However, I'm not against peace through strength, which is a cornerstone of American foreign policy.

01:34:30.000 Peace is done through diplomacy.

01:34:31.000 Peace is done through negotiations.

01:34:34.000 Can you stop interrupting me?

01:34:35.000 Can I I let you finish and I listen to you?

01:34:37.000 Can you please let me finish, right?

01:34:39.000 Uh if you look at all the peace that we have ever had, it is because people came to the negotiation table and made a deal.

01:34:45.000 Wrong and because they won wars.

01:34:48.000 Right?

01:34:50.000 It's gunboat diplomacy.

01:34:54.000 Not always stop.

01:34:56.000 But a lot of the times, a lot of wars were prevented because of negotiation.

01:34:59.000 Since the end of World War II, the peace came out from our rich.

01:35:03.000 So if you believe in negotiation, then why are you upset that President Trump re-tw that reinstated the how you said you're making that up out of your own head?

01:35:11.000 I never said it.

01:35:12.000 I was upset that he did.

01:35:13.000 I said that he just did.

01:35:14.000 I think Luke hates America.

01:35:16.000 I think Luke just hates America.

01:35:17.000 Luke, you gotta flex a little more, baby.

01:35:19.000 No, see gunboat diplomacy was this decision by late 1800s, sometime where they're like, we're gonna roll up our ships on the coast to the park them right in front of the city and be like, now you're gonna do some diplomacy with us.

01:35:30.000 There's a reason why so many people voted for Donald Trump when he, even when he was talking to you directly, Tim, he was like, Yeah, why are we involved in Yemen?

01:35:37.000 Why are we doing this?

01:35:38.000 We should be taking care of our own problems at home.

01:35:41.000 So if you're arguing, yes, we have to be the world police, yes, we have to bomb countries for peace. 0.99

01:35:47.000 That is a ridiculous idiot notion that doesn't make any sense, doesn't add up when we have clear priorities here at home that need to be prioritized because guess what? 0.99

01:35:57.000 Abdullah with flip-flops in Iran is not my enemy. 1.00

01:36:01.000 Okay, but you're clearly putting you're putting words in my mouth that I'm for being with the wheel.

01:36:05.000 No, no, no, you're like we need peace through strength.

01:36:07.000 We need to do this, and we need problems.

01:36:08.000 We need to spend all this on the we're spending records.

01:36:11.000 We are in debt up to our ears because of the military-industrial complex.

01:36:15.000 How much money are we just wasting away, throwing away Deutsche and Elon Musk could have never gone to the Pentagon and audited them?

01:36:23.000 Why?

01:36:23.000 Why can't we have an audit from all the contracts, from all the nonsense, from all the malfeasants, from all of these people robbing us blinds unless it doesn't look like someone has to sacrifice children at the altar of mom?

01:36:35.000 Oh my gosh.

01:36:36.000 Can I make one point here?

01:36:38.000 That's exactly what's happening here.

01:36:39.000 The military the military industrial complex is has star literally started like in 1913.

01:36:47.000 And they're robbing us blind.

01:36:48.000 Okay, but you're sitting here trying to blame this administration for decades of poor policies.

01:36:55.000 All I'm saying is keep your campaign promised and let's take care of our problems at home.

01:36:59.000 We have clear issues.

01:37:00.000 Let's take care of it.

01:37:02.000 Okay, but let's hyper focus on that and not uh send uh a quarter of our THAD missile defense systems over to Israel right now.

01:37:08.000 We don't need to be doing it.

01:37:11.000 Hold on.

01:37:11.000 Right.

01:37:12.000 You know.

01:37:13.000 Maybe we do.

01:37:14.000 You certainly need a broad focus as the commander.

01:37:16.000 You can't get $7,000 now.

01:37:21.000 But this is this is a good thing.

01:37:22.000 No, no, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna I'm gonna leverage, I'm gonna go to Qatar and be a lie, hey man, Israel give me seven for pro-Israel.

01:37:27.000 What are you gonna give me for a eight and a half?

01:37:29.000 Eight and a half Qatar.

01:37:30.000 Come on, let's see what you got in the middle. 0.66

01:37:33.000 Donald Trump Donald Trump galvanized so many people by saying George W. Bush knew about 9-11.

01:37:40.000 He galvanized so many people when he said we should have never gone into Iraq.

01:37:44.000 He galvanized so many people when he said, Yeah, we just went in there to take the oil.

01:37:47.000 He did that dance on SNL where he's you know, how is anything that he's gonna do?

01:37:51.000 No more children, to Mullock, right?

01:37:53.000 And I was like, yes.

01:37:54.000 Okay, that's what we want.

01:37:55.000 Maybe some.

01:37:56.000 Luke, we know you have we know you have Trump derangements in the world.

01:37:59.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:38:00.000 Let's go.

01:38:03.000 That provision is argument one.

01:38:05.000 Um you can't have an argument.

01:38:07.000 You can't have a clear advocate.

01:38:08.000 No, no, no.

01:38:10.000 There's like no reason.

01:38:10.000 No, you know why.

01:38:12.000 Like, come on, that is such a cop out.

01:38:13.000 You know why I can't have a clear argument.

01:38:15.000 Do you support Trump when he was campaigning, or do you support Trump now?

01:38:18.000 Do you which which Trump do you support?

01:38:20.000 You'll waver in the win like a little flight.

01:38:22.000 I have supported him since 2015.

01:38:24.000 Okay.

01:38:24.000 Of course.

01:38:25.000 No, but let me tell, yes, I have supported President Trump since 2015.

01:38:28.000 But I will tell you, people like you make it hard because you want to have a substantive conversation, but yet you sit there and say, You're completely twisting my words.

01:38:38.000 You're saying I'm the world's pol.

01:38:39.000 I want to win a lot of people.

01:38:42.000 I get it.

01:38:42.000 It's fine.

01:38:43.000 When I literally told me, Billy and Bobby, give them to the Epstein uh criminals and predators out there.

01:38:48.000 It's fine.

01:38:49.000 Just let each other five.

01:38:50.000 I gotta be honest.

01:38:51.000 I think Catalina's gonna get a mass amount of donations after she claimed you had Trump derangement syndrome because the chance is blown up like Catalina for Congress.com. 0.98

01:38:58.000 Luke has Trump derangement syndrome.

01:39:01.000 Can we make a can we make a yard sign?

01:39:03.000 No, it's gonna be a t-shirt.

01:39:04.000 Okay.

01:39:05.000 Crop top, actually.

01:39:06.000 When I definitely want to let you point that out when when Trump was running in those early days and saying we never should have been there, we never he was ignorant to a lot of geopolitical strategy of taking the the Suez Canal, holding it, using Israeli nuclear force, you know, eradicating radical Islam and whatever that means, whether or not you agree with that.

01:39:22.000 But when you get into office, now you're like, oh, I have to decide who lives and who dies.

01:39:26.000 We need money.

01:39:27.000 I truly believe he has avoided war, and I truly believe, again, as a wife of a veteran of global war on terror.

01:39:33.000 It's hard to see an entire generation that was completely a misled.

01:39:38.000 A lot of these guys look back and they say, All for what?

01:39:40.000 It's devastating the impact of what that war did on the entire generation of men.

01:39:45.000 They should have been there.

01:39:47.000 We go back in time.

01:39:48.000 You would have been everybody work jump, but it would have been a good idea.

01:39:50.000 No, no, no, I actually know I wouldn't have to be able to do that.

01:39:53.000 That's Saddam Hussein guy has connections to Nine. 0.96

01:39:55.000 I'm gonna stop you because I tell you.

01:39:59.000 I'm completely anti-war and it's rude that Luke completely say that.

01:40:03.000 Changing the subject.

01:40:04.000 Um we're gonna rag on some liberals.

01:40:06.000 Before we're gonna we're gonna grab one last segment before the weekend, we gotta do it because this one is uh how do I say this?

01:40:12.000 I am emotionally triggered and personally offended and biased.

01:40:16.000 I got this tweet.

01:40:18.000 I tweeted this.

01:40:19.000 90% of liberals we try to book demand money.

01:40:22.000 Zero percent of conservatives ask for money.

01:40:24.000 In fact, conservatives sometimes drive themselves, even though we cover travel and accommodation.

01:40:29.000 Liberals are grifters, they don't care about ideas, they care about money, and they will say anything for money.

01:40:34.000 And I believe it.

01:40:35.000 So we have an update for you guys for the Culture War Live event, which is coming up in a couple of weeks.

01:40:39.000 We had booked Naema Trout, who uh is notable because she debated Charlie Kirk on Jubilee.

01:40:46.000 She had agreed to come on the show in exchange for 500.

01:40:49.000 This is the Culture War Live ticketed stage event.

01:40:52.000 We have never offered money for Timcast IRL.

01:40:55.000 We have been offered money, we have turned it down every time.

01:40:57.000 We do not offer money to appear on any of the shows that I do.

01:41:01.000 Naima was invited to come on the debate show about dating, and she said, how much?

01:41:06.000 So uh apparently she had negotiated, her team had negotiated with Alex, not someone from our team, and she was offered $500, and we never pay.

01:41:16.000 The events lose money.

01:41:17.000 We do this because we're trying to it's for the cause for an impact.

01:41:21.000 They came back to me uh to our team yesterday saying she had received an offer for 5,000 and would be backing out of the event unless we could match or offer more.

01:41:30.000 To which we responded, no, we can't do that.

01:41:33.000 Now, I'll grant some respect.

01:41:35.000 If I was asked to go to an event and I said, sure, I'll do it, whatever.

01:41:38.000 And then like a week later, someone said, Tim, we're gonna pay you to do another event.

01:41:42.000 I'd hit him up and be like, guys, look, I gotta take the money.

01:41:44.000 Sorry, like it's a paid gig versus So I'm not completely bent about that.

01:41:48.000 But it is a reality that conservatives never ask for money.

01:41:51.000 I think to be fair, 0%, it might be 0.01%, because we may have had one personality who's not a conservative, but is a prominent, it's like a celebrity who kind of agrees with Trump.

01:42:04.000 So anyway, here's what ends up happening.

01:42:07.000 I tweet this.

01:42:08.000 It's got 4,000 retweets, 811,000 views, because it's true, and even Bill Marr said the same thing.

01:42:13.000 And everyone's favorite, Olivia Juliana.

01:42:17.000 She is a uh liberal uh personality, tweeted 10,000 likes, and I'll post screenshots of Tim's team offering me money to collab with him.

01:42:25.000 I love the word collab because that literally never happened.

01:42:29.000 I don't collab, but I guess semantics.

01:42:32.000 People who are invited to come on the culture war debate show.

01:42:35.000 Um, which I will also add, I wouldn't be there as we already announced I wouldn't be for security reasons, and we don't know yet if I will be there.

01:42:43.000 She said 10,000 likes, and I'll post screenshots of Tim's team offering me money.

01:42:47.000 And this just so beautifully exemplifies the point.

01:42:50.000 She wouldn't just do it.

01:42:52.000 She wouldn't just say, Oh yeah, look, Tim offered me money.

01:42:55.000 No, she says, you give me clicks and help me build up my personality and my career and my job, and maybe I'll consider being honest.

01:43:04.000 Of which she wasn't, because Lisa, uh, who does our booking Patriot posted the screenshots on X showing everything?

01:43:13.000 And never was she offered money.

01:43:15.000 Hi, Olivia.

01:43:16.000 Tim Pool is a new show, the Culture War War II guests with opposing views.

01:43:20.000 Uh hi, Olivia.

01:43:21.000 The temple is a is is is hosting an event July 26th in Washington, DC.

01:43:24.000 No offer of money.

01:43:26.000 She said, hi, I have a prior prior familial obligations and will be unable to attend.

01:43:30.000 Thank you for the invitation.

01:43:31.000 Then an email.

01:43:32.000 We would like to invite you to the culture war, the comedy loft.

01:43:34.000 No offer of money.

01:43:36.000 And excuse me, the other half of the email.

01:43:38.000 Here's the date.

01:43:38.000 Here's who's going to be there.

01:43:39.000 Kat Timff, Kyler Turner, Myron Gaines will be there.

01:43:41.000 And then she even went further to include a text message with another staffer who said, we never offered her any money. 0.78

01:43:49.000 So maybe she's just a lunatic who is, I don't know, talking to some random cactus and thinking it was me offering money. 0.80

01:43:56.000 I don't know. 0.98

01:43:57.000 But we never did.

01:43:58.000 These people lie.

01:43:59.000 It's what they do.

01:44:00.000 I am genuinely convinced that about 90% of liberals are literally just saying whatever they have to say to make money.

01:44:06.000 People like Jimmy Kimmel are no exception.

01:44:08.000 Sam Cedar, well, to be fair, Sam did the show for free.

01:44:11.000 So I'll give him some respect.

01:44:12.000 Hassan Grifter. 0.92

01:44:14.000 Krasenstein's, they never asked for money.

01:44:16.000 They came on the show, respect, despite not respect in other areas.

01:44:20.000 Speaking of speaking of liberals making money, Luke, how much are you getting paid to be here?

01:44:24.000 Zero, actually.

01:44:24.000 Oh no.

01:44:25.000 I'm volunteering my time.

01:44:27.000 Wow.

01:44:27.000 You have your your thesis is wrong here.

01:44:31.000 Well, Luke's looks like an anarchist.

01:44:33.000 No, he's not a good idea.

01:44:34.000 He's not a liberal.

01:44:35.000 He's definitely not a liberal.

01:44:37.000 He's giving me liberal vibes.

01:44:38.000 He's a panic.

01:44:38.000 Well, I mean, there's other people who don't like try to panic.

01:44:42.000 It's a panicking.

01:44:43.000 Get him out of here.

01:44:45.000 Say donate to me.

01:44:46.000 Luke's a panicin and then watch this.

01:44:48.000 Someone said just a little bit of a channel. 0.53

01:44:53.000 But uh, no, it looks like I believe in freedom and and and uh you know personal responsibility, something that politicians usually don't know.

01:45:02.000 What something that politicians usually don't know much about.

01:45:05.000 What do we not know about freedom and personal responsibility?

01:45:08.000 Have you guys ever fallen into that place where you just decide I'm gonna start lying now, and then you kind of just justify it for yourself and you become that person?

01:45:15.000 No, you'd be a liberal if that was the case because there's easy money.

01:45:17.000 Yeah, I've waved through that state of mind, and that's what's happening to these people.

01:45:21.000 Luke, come on.

01:45:22.000 Yeah, how much money do you think we could make if we go all in on Israel, bro? 0.93

01:45:26.000 It's so stop ragging on Israel.

01:45:28.000 You like it?

01:45:28.000 But I gotta stop talking about the Epstein list too.

01:45:31.000 Five look uh what if you did 10 tweets per day?

01:45:34.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:35.000 70,000 dollars.

01:45:37.000 Nah, they don't got a budget for that.

01:45:38.000 But they might be, you know, seven grand per day, bro.

01:45:41.000 Come on, that's a lot of money.

01:45:43.000 When the IRS took everything from me last year, I I would have thought about it, but probably would have said no.

01:45:47.000 It's possible that this girl was wrong.

01:45:49.000 Don Lemon asked for 50,000.

01:45:51.000 Wow.

01:45:53.000 Dude, I mean I find that actually really insulting.

01:45:56.000 Who does he think he is?

01:45:57.000 I think it's it's actually, you know, no matter how much uh someone likes to argue here, it's it I'm really grateful that you have people on and people like myself, you know, we're really honored to be able to have a platform and to to for you to invite us on and and to have these dialogues and this conversation because you're we're reaching an audience that you know we might not normally and so I'm so thank you.

01:46:22.000 But and I'm really insulted that people ask you for money to be on here.

01:46:26.000 There are uh some prominent podcasts that pay people to come on the show, and we don't do that.

01:46:31.000 We won't give people money to come on Tim Cast Ira.

01:46:33.000 We've talked about it, like if there is a celebrity who's not a political figure, and we want them to comment on something, but we're like that's what culture war is for.

01:46:42.000 Because if they're not a news, if not a person who's in politics and news and doesn't know what's going on, we get specialists sometimes on the show who will be like, you know, we had like um white coat way uh white coat waste project, and they're not news guys, they're specialists, so they don't have a lot to say on like politics of Yemen, you know what I mean?

01:47:00.000 So we try to reserve that stuff for culture war.

01:47:03.000 The only culture war events we've actually offered money for is literally this one time for uh Naima.

01:47:09.000 Because it is a stage event, we've talked about it, and I said, Well, it's not the same thing as asking someone to come and sit down and have a conversation.

01:47:15.000 We're asking them to be in public with an audience, selling tickets.

01:47:19.000 So I think it's fair that the people who do request some kind of compensation, we we would offer something.

01:47:24.000 But uh Kat Tim didn't ask for money, Myron didn't ask for money, Michael Malice didn't ask for money.

01:47:30.000 Literally no one's asked for money.

01:47:32.000 In fact, even Alex Stein.

01:47:34.000 Alex did it for free, right?

01:47:35.000 Even Alex co-hosted for free.

01:47:37.000 We lost money doing those events.

01:47:39.000 I think we lost a little bit.

01:47:40.000 Like we made it, we made back a good amount, and we do it for the love.

01:47:43.000 Yeah, I'm here.

01:47:44.000 I'm I flew myself out here.

01:47:46.000 I'm here for free.

01:47:47.000 Uh unlike uh what Ken Elena believes.

01:47:50.000 Uh but uh I I I think it's it's important to have these discussions that I'm here because I love these discussions, and I think it's important to discuss.

01:47:58.000 I think it's important because it's important to ask questions.

01:48:02.000 That this is true for all of us.

01:48:03.000 And this is the point I'm making with this tweet.

01:48:05.000 When you look at you know, David Pacman.

01:48:09.000 Oh, his opinions for sale, bro.

01:48:11.000 Like Hassan Piker, his opinion's for sale.

01:48:13.000 Hassan Piker is simultaneously pro and anti-military industrial complexes, but it just makes no sense.

01:48:18.000 He's like, we should be cutting off Israel because the military industrial complex in the Middle East, but we should be giving it to Ukraine. 1.00

01:48:23.000 And I'm like, no.

01:48:24.000 It's like, what the hell?

01:48:26.000 Well, but then that's not principled. 0.98

01:48:27.000 That's just on grifter.

01:48:30.000 Grifter.

01:48:30.000 I'll give Sam Cedar credit in that he came on for free.

01:48:33.000 But Sam Cedar is a different kind of grifter.

01:48:35.000 He makes videos about me like nonstop.

01:48:37.000 And this is really funny.

01:48:38.000 I'm looking straight into the camera at you, Sam.

01:48:40.000 When I was sick for August, I was mercilessly sick.

01:48:45.000 He didn't make one video about me because I didn't make any videos.

01:48:48.000 His viewership dropped uh what did it drop by?

01:48:50.000 Like 20%, and his subscriber growth dropped by like 70%.

01:48:54.000 When he when the man can't talk about me, he loses views.

01:48:58.000 I I'm so sorry about that.

01:48:59.000 I know your kids need to eat.

01:49:02.000 Different kind of grifter.

01:49:04.000 But the rest of these liberals are literally like, I've got so many followers, I can make money with it.

01:49:08.000 You know, shout out to Stephen Bonnell, who, whether you like Destiny or not, he would pay for his own travel all the time.

01:49:13.000 And he's been doing that for years and years.

01:49:15.000 Yeah, but that guy's trying to get killed.

01:49:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:49:17.000 Like Stephen Steve's intentionally situation to bring him up.

01:49:20.000 Hey, at least you can't.

01:49:21.000 No, no, no.

01:49:25.000 Listen, Ian.

01:49:26.000 I don't like judging people in critical.

01:49:27.000 I think one of the one of the one of the biggest critiques people have of you is that you seem to be willfully obtuse.

01:49:32.000 Of course.

01:49:33.000 That's my position on the show at the moment.

01:49:34.000 Okay. 0.61

01:49:35.000 Destiny has celebrated death, called for killing of conservatives, said conservatives should fear death. 0.97

01:49:40.000 And Hitler loved drugs. 0.89

01:49:42.000 And then goes out in public for a public tour right after Charlie is killed.

01:49:46.000 Hey, all that stuff I condemn.

01:49:47.000 A lot of that, what you just said.

01:49:48.000 My point is you don't go on your show, mock people and praise uh mock people who who just uh uh who whose friend just was murdered, praise the assassinations after you suffered criminal charges.

01:50:01.000 I think I don't know the full full details, where your kid is going online and insulting you and your wife left you, and then you say, Hey guys, I'm gonna go stand in public.

01:50:09.000 Here's where I'll be standing.

01:50:11.000 It's like we get it, dude.

01:50:12.000 We get it.

01:50:13.000 You're trying to he you're trying to get someone to hurt you.

01:50:15.000 Please, no one hurt this man.

01:50:17.000 Okay, he he's in need of a 5150.

01:50:19.000 Yeah, he's not doing too well.

01:50:20.000 I reached out to him a couple years ago.

01:50:23.000 Let me ask you this.

01:50:23.000 So when it comes to the financial incentive, when you come on here, especially like as a candidate, this is just from my perspective, right?

01:50:31.000 Or anybody, you're subjecting yourself to a if somebody disagrees with you, horrible, you know, comments.

01:50:38.000 I don't even want to see the comment section here.

01:50:41.000 There, you're subjecting yourself to vulnerability in terms of anybody can take a clip and or misconstrue what you're trying to say, manipulate what you're trying to say when that's not actually what you're trying to say.

01:50:53.000 There's a huge liability in doing that, yet people still come on here to have these discussions because that's worth the ultimate backlash.

01:51:01.000 Do you think in their mind they think that it's only worth to come on?

01:51:05.000 I'm not saying it's not right, but with when there's a financial incentive because you're putting yourself in that I guarantee you there is a number I can give most liberals where they will change their opinions in two seconds.

01:51:16.000 Yep.

01:51:17.000 Conservatives, absolutely not.

01:51:18.000 Right.

01:51:19.000 You will they can just be bought.

01:51:20.000 I would so and I say this of 90% of conservatives, because that thing's absolute, because some so the way the way I put it is 90% of liberals are grifters, 90% of conservatives are honest to their to their mission.

01:51:30.000 That means you can find some conservatives.

01:51:32.000 But I guarantee you, if I went to anybody in the turning point building and said, I would give you 100,000 right now, cash, here you go, suitcase.

01:51:41.000 All you need to do is I'm gonna film a video of you renouncing Christ.

01:51:44.000 They would say, never.

01:51:46.000 Right.

01:51:46.000 Never.

01:51:47.000 But I know that I can go to liberals, a good majority, may the to be fair, some of them may weigh a hundred thousand against their you know multi-million dollar enterprise and say no.

01:51:57.000 But the average one of the mill liberal who's like wanting to come on the show, I bet if I said give you a hundred grand to be conservative, they'd go.

01:52:04.000 Okay.

01:52:05.000 Yeah, because you've got like two years of money for the guy making 50k, and he's like, all I gotta say is some lie, and then I can spend the next couple years making up for it.

01:52:12.000 Because they don't actually believe in what they say.

01:52:15.000 There's no principle in there, what they believe.

01:52:18.000 So I fell to Hollywood working in the entertainment industry.

01:52:20.000 Yeah, the whole industry's built around that.

01:52:22.000 Say, sell this product, say it's good for you, even though you know it's not.

01:52:26.000 We're gonna grab some super chats because we went long because that's what we do sometimes.

01:52:31.000 And it's Friday, and we're having fun and we're screaming at each other.

01:52:33.000 But uh, let's grab some of your super chats and let's see.

01:52:37.000 What are we gonna do?

01:52:37.000 I'm about to ask for a text.

01:52:39.000 Ambriel Brown says we can't release.

01:52:42.000 I'm reading super chats now.

01:52:44.000 Ambriel Brown says we can't Sorry guys.

01:52:47.000 Huh?

01:52:49.000 This is my favorite part of the show, by the way.

01:52:51.000 Considering people spent a lot of money, I will throw you guys off the show if you keep doing that.

01:53:00.000 Vigilante's on the rise.

01:53:01.000 Forget civil war.

01:53:02.000 This is life for life and war beyond us.

01:53:05.000 Yes, I want to know who's on the list, but the justice isn't ours.

01:53:08.000 True justice will come.

01:53:09.000 When?

01:53:10.000 How?

01:53:10.000 Solid.

01:53:11.000 Um I I I disagree with that notion.

01:53:14.000 Justice could come now.

01:53:15.000 We don't have to wait for it and have some underwater 4D chess backgamming explanation.

01:53:20.000 We could get real answers.

01:53:22.000 We should.

01:53:23.000 We deserve it.

01:53:25.000 My jury's out with me, man.

01:53:26.000 I I think about lately how how you create order by using evil once in a while, and then you repent along the way.

01:53:33.000 But and and this power of blackmail, this level of power that you could exert over big money, and you know big money's the problem, the Swiss banks, bank for international settlements.

01:53:42.000 I mean, if you've got if you've got dirt on those guys and you can somehow circumvent the uh the World Economic Forum's attempt at turning this into a corporatocracy, you know the uh basically every super chat is anti-luke.

01:53:56.000 Read them.

01:53:56.000 I'm okay with that.

01:53:57.000 They're just criticism that I like uh Luke is wrong, Luke is wrong with his own.

01:54:01.000 I love constructive criticism, and I love to have these debates, so let's do it.

01:54:04.000 Not a bot says Luke would burn down the country to get the Epstein list.

01:54:10.000 Uh Fallen Angel says, Luke, justice takes time for it to work, so it won't crumble under examination, especially with the corrupt judges in the court system.

01:54:17.000 That's actually true too.

01:54:18.000 It's the judges that are blocking their judges blocking the release of these files.

01:54:22.000 They have the files.

01:54:23.000 They could release them.

01:54:24.000 They don't need a judge's uh approval for them.

01:54:26.000 A judge blocked the release of the files.

01:54:28.000 Uh the the court files, but not the FBI files, not the financial transcripts, not the records, not the victims, not the flight logs.

01:54:35.000 Daniel Cole says Luke's view respectfully is naively myopic.

01:54:38.000 He clearly cannot see the bigger issue for the Epstein trees.

01:54:42.000 Dem tyranny is 1,000 foot oak.

01:54:44.000 I don't think we're gonna get dem tyranny by releasing the Epstein list. 0.89

01:54:48.000 What if they could Felipe Brevard says Luke only thinks about his business model?

01:54:52.000 He needs material to feed his audience, he doesn't have anything to lose.

01:54:55.000 We parents do grow up.

01:54:57.000 What are we gonna lose by releasing the Epstein?

01:54:59.000 What if it's the ability to say if Democrats win, their kids' future is at risk?

01:55:02.000 If they could use that's correlated.

01:55:03.000 If they could use the Epsi files to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, great.

01:55:07.000 Would you be cool with them using it as blackmail to get those people to repeal that act?

01:55:10.000 Uh no, I think Epstein takes priority.

01:55:13.000 Oscar Oliu says, I haven't super chat in a while, but please tell Luke, normal people don't give an ish about rich people doing gross ish.

01:55:20.000 We are worried about bills and dying from crime.

01:55:24.000 Then let's have an America first policy where uh a lot of the predators out there are hurting our children.

01:55:30.000 Like I think it I think it's a fair argument to make.

01:55:33.000 Luke's just like SL V R B A I'm not gonna read the whole thing. 1.00

01:55:37.000 People only care about uncovering Epstein docs so they can see elites who have or may done some pedo stuff.

01:55:43.000 Only a small percent actually care to get justice for the minors who were involved.

01:55:47.000 Look at what happened with Diddy today.

01:55:50.000 What happened?

01:55:50.000 What are we at 15 months or something?

01:55:53.000 Four years.

01:55:55.000 Was that good or enough or not enough?

01:55:57.000 I don't think it was enough for what he was.

01:55:59.000 It was a cover-up operation for other Democrats who are involved.

01:56:02.000 They they hit it.

01:56:03.000 Neglectful sausage says, what about ism, repeal the 19th?

01:56:09.000 No, that means Don.

01:56:10.000 How do you respond to that, Catalina?

01:56:12.000 Women belong in the kitchen and in Congress, okay. 1.00

01:56:16.000 What do you think about Anna Paulina Luna's bill to allow uh mothers to work remote vote remote from Congress if they have babies uh Anna's a great friend of mine. 0.99

01:56:26.000 Um, you know, that's that's an interesting one, and I'll tell you why.

01:56:31.000 You know, the argument to that was against it, rather was well, we women ha you know, women have to work and and things like that. 1.00

01:56:38.000 Well, she like for a as a mother, she had to literally go to DC every week when she had a a newborn. 1.00

01:56:46.000 What if you have a child that has an issue with quit.

01:56:52.000 You're gonna you're gonna lose a lion like like Anna over something.

01:56:57.000 Indeed.

01:56:58.000 Okay.

01:56:59.000 If you if you want to open the door to Congress remote voting under the Civil Rights Act, then the Democrats are gonna say, then you have to allow everyone to vote remote no matter what, and then Congress disappears.

01:57:08.000 There should be a balance, and there was a balance in that particular provision.

01:57:13.000 She had a she had a limited of time.

01:57:15.000 It was a good one.

01:57:16.000 Imagine any other job.

01:57:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:18.000 Like as a firefighter, and it's like a woman and she's like, I'm gonna have a baby, now you gotta pay me. 1.00

01:57:21.000 I'm not gonna come to work.

01:57:22.000 I'm gonna work firefight remote.

01:57:23.000 It's like, look, you have a job, you're expected to be there.

01:57:26.000 Don't bring your kid to work. 0.98

01:57:28.000 That's like the crazy thing.

01:57:29.000 The other Democrat lady was like, look at my son, he has to be here in Congress with me.

01:57:32.000 No, he doesn't get a babysitter.

01:57:33.000 Okay, well, that was different.

01:57:34.000 That was also, I think it was also.

01:57:36.000 I think it was also heavily sensationalized on Twitter too.

01:57:39.000 Like I think I think it's an important thing.

01:57:42.000 That was something that she cared about.

01:57:44.000 And you know, I think it was overly sensationalized on Twitter.

01:57:48.000 Like if you want to have a baby, quit.

01:57:50.000 Men don't breastfeed. 1.00

01:57:52.000 Like this is this is the you know the problem I have with it is largely it's this gender neutral garbage where it's like I just had a kid. 1.00

01:57:58.000 I know I I I am going, I'm learning, and there are many, many more of many more kids than I did, and and know a lot more than I do. 0.96

01:58:04.000 But oh wow, do babies need moms? 1.00

01:58:06.000 And I changed my opinion on surrogacy, which was rather fence-sittery, and now I'm absolutely opposed to it.

01:58:13.000 And uh, because newborn babies need mothers. 0.97

01:58:16.000 They they they we babies formula is fake, formula is a lie, formula is a trick.

01:58:21.000 Babies are surviving, but they are not thriving.

01:58:25.000 So this idea that we're gonna be like nah, women can be in Congress and have babies at the same time. 1.00

01:58:30.000 I'm like, I'm I'm not doing this.

01:58:32.000 Women can be in Congress all they want. 1.00

01:58:33.000 But if you have a baby, it doesn't matter what job you have, you go take care of your baby.

01:58:36.000 But what if you can do both?

01:58:38.000 No, you can't.

01:58:39.000 Yeah, look at Carol. 0.63

01:58:40.000 Look at Caroline Levitt. 1.00

01:58:41.000 She's a complete powerhouse. 0.98

01:58:43.000 Does she does she bring her baby to the stand of press secretaries? 0.98

01:58:46.000 She started working three years.

01:58:48.000 She holds she's holding her baby at the press.

01:58:49.000 Wait, well, that's different.

01:58:50.000 That democratic representative did that, but she's not doing that. 0.96

01:58:53.000 However, she is a mom.

01:58:54.000 She hasn't asked to work remote.

01:58:55.000 She had a baby.

01:58:56.000 And did she did she go home and say I'm gonna zoom call the press?

01:58:59.000 She worked like three after. 0.97

01:59:01.000 So we got no issue.

01:59:02.000 Yeah, but it's more, it's the voting pro it's more nuanced.

01:59:04.000 Anna Paulina Luna said, I should be able to work from home because I had a baby.

01:59:07.000 No, she didn't. 0.95

01:59:08.000 I mean, that is ridiculous. 0.96

01:59:09.000 That was the bill. 0.98

01:59:10.000 Are you joking?

01:59:11.000 What was the bill to do?

01:59:12.000 First of all, most of the things.

01:59:13.000 What was the bill?

01:59:16.000 Over a provision, it said allow it over a certain amount.

01:59:18.000 It was like 10 weeks or something like that.

01:59:20.000 To work remote.

01:59:21.000 It said giving the option.

01:59:23.000 To vote remote in Congress.

01:59:24.000 Yeah.

01:59:25.000 Which means from home with your baby.

01:59:27.000 That doesn't necessarily mean that.

01:59:28.000 Oh, it means from the cafe with her baby?

01:59:30.000 Yeah, she well doesn't.

01:59:32.000 The idea of the thing is that anyone would dare say I should get a special class provision to vote remotely, is so shockingly offensive to me.

01:59:41.000 I called on her to resign. 0.98

01:59:43.000 And I like her.

01:59:43.000 I think she's a great member of Congress, one of the best.

01:59:45.000 But if you're gonna stand up there and be like, I should get to work remote, the the title wave of corruption that opens for her personal issue is so shockingly offensive to me.

01:59:56.000 My response is how dare you go into Congress and say, I had a baby, so I'm gonna vote on bills remotely when we already have a problem of Congress not showing up and spending most of their time fundraising instead of doing their jobs.

02:00:08.000 It's more that's why Congress approval writing is like 13%.

02:00:10.000 It's more offensive to s to me to lose a lion like Anna over something that she felt so passionate about.

02:00:20.000 You're out of all the members of Congress, she's one of the few people who actually sit there and fight for the American people every single day on a national platform.

02:00:28.000 She defends the president, she does her job more than you know, more than 90% of the representatives right now. 0.83

02:00:35.000 No, I don't want some loser from uh a member of Congress that does absolutely nothing, sits there lining in their pocketbooks, doing whatever they want, and and being silent on the issues that matter, be in Congress and get a baby. 1.00

02:00:50.000 And I'm sure she does. 0.89

02:00:51.000 And then voting in Congress.

02:00:56.000 That was a particular issue that she was passionate about.

02:00:58.000 And she was wrong and it's shockingly offensive that she would dare try.

02:01:00.000 But to say, okay, well, I think it's shockingly offensive that we would completely disregard somebody like her over everything that she has done.

02:01:09.000 What does that mean?

02:01:09.000 Disregard her.

02:01:10.000 What does that mean?

02:01:10.000 You said she you called on her to resign.

02:01:13.000 If she wants, if she cannot work because she has a baby, then she should resign. 1.00

02:01:17.000 That was over a certain amount of weeks here.

02:01:20.000 I don't disagree, you would vote against it.

02:01:22.000 Can we read more super chats against me?

02:01:24.000 Uh yeah, I'm just saying I want to talk about voting online.

02:01:27.000 The position is I struggle to do this job because I have a baby, so why should we have to work from home?

02:01:33.000 Quit your job.

02:01:34.000 All right.

02:01:35.000 It's just Luke, it's just literally everybody.

02:01:37.000 That's fine.

02:01:37.000 I'm I love it.

02:01:40.000 This one says Luke is gay. 0.96

02:01:42.000 Read that one again. 0.77

02:01:43.000 I'm kidding, it doesn't say that.

02:01:46.000 Uh what does this one say?

02:01:47.000 Um Jake says, Luke needs to remember his shirt says America runs on blackmail.

02:01:52.000 Yes.

02:01:52.000 It does.

02:01:53.000 The best political shirts.com.

02:01:55.000 But isn't that evil?

02:01:56.000 Aren't you using evil to sell t-shirts?

02:01:58.000 Uh what are you talking about?

02:01:59.000 You're saying something you don't believe in.

02:02:00.000 What kind of Ianism did you just pull off the street?

02:02:03.000 You're saying something you don't believe in.

02:02:04.000 That's another one, Ian.

02:02:05.000 I'm sorry.

02:02:06.000 Or that you don't want.

02:02:06.000 You're like, you're like using the negativity to sell t-shirts.

02:02:10.000 Face reality, please.

02:02:11.000 I just did, and you're you're looking at me. 0.99

02:02:13.000 Katoff swears Luca's ignorant. 0.98

02:02:15.000 Peace comes from the barrel. 0.99

02:02:16.000 That's Chairman Mao.

02:02:18.000 Yep.

02:02:19.000 Yeah.

02:02:19.000 I I'm not I'm not the biggest fan of uh the communist that kid killed tens of millions of people.

02:02:25.000 But do you believe that peace is derived through strength?

02:02:28.000 And that means weapons of the day.

02:02:29.000 I I think there's a two prong approach here, like I said before.

02:02:33.000 The answer is more nuanced carrot stick.

02:02:35.000 And it's that simple.

02:02:36.000 I think peace.

02:02:37.000 We need more diplomacy.

02:02:38.000 We need more carriers.

02:02:39.000 Pieces derived through force, but it's sustained through diplomacy.

02:02:42.000 All right, everybody.

02:02:43.000 We're getting close to that time, so smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.

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02:02:49.000 We're gonna have segments up throughout the weekend.

02:02:51.000 And all next week, it is going to a special be a special treat for all of you.

02:02:55.000 And I'm saying that because what I'm actually telling you is I'm not gonna be there.

02:02:58.000 We have a series of guest hosts.

02:03:00.000 It's gonna be a whole lot of fun.

02:03:01.000 I'll give you a hint.

02:03:03.000 Um without saying too much, I'll just shout out Matt Gates.

02:03:06.000 It's gonna be awesome.

02:03:07.000 I'm gonna be doing a bunch of promo stuff, which I neglect all the time by traveling.

02:03:12.000 And so I'll be doing that.

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02:03:14.000 Catalina, do you want to shout anything out?

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02:03:20.000 If you want to fight her in office, and uh we're gonna be making shirts now that St. Luke has Trump Drang syndrome.

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02:03:33.000 Which is Catalina for Congress.com.

02:03:36.000 I have another great slogan. 0.71

02:03:37.000 Bomb bomb bomb Iran. 0.98

02:03:39.000 I think that's a good one too. 0.98

02:03:40.000 We're also gonna do women belong in the kitchen and in Congress, because I believe that we can do both. 0.65

02:03:45.000 Uh we can make sandwiches and pass legislation.

02:03:48.000 This was fun.

02:03:50.000 Thank you so much for engaging in this debate in this conversation.

02:03:53.000 Uh most of my best friends I argue with like this, so I appreciate the very lively conversation.

02:03:58.000 It was really fun.

02:03:59.000 If you guys want to have the conversation with me, you can on YouTube.com forward slash we are change.

02:04:04.000 I always have a very fun time uh debating, conversing with people.

02:04:08.000 So I'm all open to changing my mind.

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02:04:17.000 This is gonna be it for me for Timcast IRL for now.

02:04:20.000 And uh I look forward to hopefully. 0.80

02:04:22.000 Yeah, we're we're banning him because he has Trump derangement syndrome.

02:04:24.000 No panickings at the table. 0.96

02:04:26.000 Um I'm you take you you you're pissing me off.

02:04:29.000 Your constant warm up. 0.55

02:04:31.000 I'm sick of this.

02:04:32.000 I'm not gonna take it. 1.00

02:04:32.000 I'm sick of the graphene crap. 1.00

02:04:34.000 Well, whatever you say I disagree with, so enough of you. 0.99

02:04:38.000 Just kidding, by the way.

02:04:39.000 I love this guy.

02:04:40.000 But we're we'll brewing some beef at the moment, and it's gonna be tasty.

02:04:43.000 We'll we'll handle this out in the parking lot.

02:04:45.000 Follow us both.

02:04:46.000 I'm Ian Crossland, real tape brown on Twitter.

02:04:48.000 But what do you gotta say, brother?

02:04:50.000 Keep fighting, never surrender.

02:04:52.000 Um, okay.

02:04:54.000 I see the chemistry of you too.

02:04:56.000 What's your what where are they following you at Ian Crosslin and Ed Ian Crosslin is on everywhere and at RealTate Brown everywhere.

02:05:03.000 All right, it's time to get out of here, guys.

02:05:04.000 Thank you so much for hanging out.

02:05:05.000 This has been an awesome week.

02:05:06.000 Shout out to the turning point team for hosting us and the guys, uh, Andrew Colvitt, Jack Pasobic, and the Charlie Kirk Show.

02:05:13.000 It means the world to me to that you had us out here.

02:05:15.000 You supported us to to come and collaborate with you in this way.

02:05:17.000 See, I said collaborate.

02:05:18.000 So I really do appreciate it.

02:05:20.000 Next week's gonna be a blast with a bunch of guest hosts.

02:05:22.000 It's gonna get wild.

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