Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 26, 2025


Trump DOJ Gives Ghislaine Maxwell Limited IMMUNITY As She Rats On 100+ People | Timcast IRL


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On today's show, we talk about the latest in the Epstein scandal, a possible alien spaceship attack on Earth, and the latest on the Trump/Schumer feud. Hosted by John Rocha ( ) and Matt Knost ( )


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00:02:51.000 The DOJ has met with Epstein associate Gheelain Maxwell.
00:02:55.000 There's conflicting reports, but according to her lawyer and statements, she was asked about 100 individuals and gave up information on whatever she was asked about.
00:03:03.000 And for this, the DOJ granted her conditional or limited immunity, which is very interesting.
00:03:10.000 Now, apparently, Gheelane Maxwell is going to seek a pardon in exchange for information.
00:03:14.000 And where it gets real spicy, Chuck Schumer is losing it.
00:03:19.000 He's posting an X that no one should allow the DOJ to be meeting with Gheelane Maxwell.
00:03:23.000 Why?
00:03:25.000 What are they now freaking out about?
00:03:27.000 This is the weirdest story.
00:03:29.000 Okay, first you get the Trump people basically pumping it up throughout the campaign.
00:03:32.000 We got to release the files.
00:03:33.000 Then they get in and say, no, no, we can't do it.
00:03:35.000 Then the Democrats say, you got to release the files.
00:03:38.000 Then Trump says, okay, we're going to do it.
00:03:40.000 We're going to go interview Gheelan Maxwell.
00:03:41.000 And then Chuck Schumer's like, no, stop.
00:03:42.000 Don't.
00:03:43.000 It's like they're just playing chicken with each other.
00:03:45.000 Like, neither really want these files to come out.
00:03:47.000 But I guess if you play chicken with Trump, you're going to lose.
00:03:50.000 We'll see what happens.
00:03:51.000 We got that news.
00:03:53.000 We got a bunch of funny news.
00:03:54.000 There's apparently, it's a report from the New York Post that an alien vessel is on its way to attack Earth.
00:03:59.000 I'm not kidding.
00:04:00.000 It's actually in the New York Post.
00:04:01.000 It's a potentially alien hostile force or something.
00:04:06.000 You know, if it's true, then you'll make fun of me.
00:04:08.000 I hear it's got the Episcopal files on it.
00:04:10.000 And they're coming to get them, actually.
00:04:12.000 They're going to take them away.
00:04:13.000 So I guess we'll talk about all of that.
00:04:19.000 Yeah, there's other news, too.
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00:06:21.000 You know, we've got a couple guests joining us tonight.
00:06:23.000 We got Kyle Seraphin.
00:06:25.000 Hey, Tim.
00:06:26.000 How's it going?
00:06:26.000 It's going well.
00:06:27.000 What are you doing?
00:06:27.000 How are you?
00:06:28.000 I'm great.
00:06:29.000 Folks, I used to be an FBI agent.
00:06:30.000 Now I run a podcast and I'm also suing the government.
00:06:33.000 So we're having an interesting time right now.
00:06:35.000 There's a lot of FBI news as usual and pretty interesting to see that we're going to be talking about Miss Maxwell.
00:06:41.000 I haven't seen a lot of proffers happen after somebody is already convicted.
00:06:46.000 It turns out to be not the way you usually go about it.
00:06:48.000 Very interesting.
00:06:49.000 We saw the DAG actually say that this is the first time someone from the DOJ has talked to her ever.
00:06:54.000 Whoa.
00:06:55.000 That was his public post and tweet the other day.
00:06:57.000 That's weird.
00:06:58.000 Very backwards.
00:06:59.000 So we'll come back.
00:07:00.000 You brought a friend with you.
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00:07:02.000 Hey, I'm Stephen Stambelle.
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00:07:11.000 Well, thanks for hanging out.
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00:07:13.000 Hey, man.
00:07:13.000 Ian's here.
00:07:14.000 And I was thinking, I've been thinking of the world as like a game of civilization.
00:07:17.000 I don't know who you guys ever play.
00:07:18.000 I feel like we're winning.
00:07:20.000 The American people are winning the culture war.
00:07:22.000 If we keep going at this pace, our culture is the best and keeps getting better.
00:07:26.000 So it's just a matter of holding it together, keeping the country safe, keeping people happy.
00:07:31.000 I personally like science, so I use culture to expand my borders while I can then use the production capacity to increase my science output.
00:07:39.000 I feel like that's the best victory path.
00:07:41.000 All across the world, millions of eyebrows just raised because they have no idea what you mean.
00:07:45.000 Well, the point is we've won.
00:07:46.000 The culture war is, we're in the process of winning it, so hold it together.
00:07:50.000 Keep reality sane and stable to the best of your ability because this American culture, since TV was invented, I mean, it is like a skyrocket, dude.
00:07:59.000 I just heard trust the science.
00:08:00.000 That's what I heard you say.
00:08:02.000 Never mind government for the people by the people since TV was invented.
00:08:06.000 Yeah, the brain.
00:08:06.000 Hello, everybody.
00:08:07.000 My name is Phil Labonte.
00:08:08.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
00:08:10.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
00:08:12.000 Let's get into it.
00:08:13.000 Here's a story from the New York Post, ladies and gentlemen.
00:08:16.000 Gheelane Maxwell gave DOJ info about 100 different people linked to Jeffrey Epstein, lawyer says.
00:08:24.000 Notorious sex criminal Ghylaine Maxwell answered questions in the DOJ about 100 different people linked to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:08:30.000 An attorney for the disgraced socialite claimed Friday following two days of interrogation by Todd Blanche.
00:08:36.000 David Oscar Marcus told reporters that his client, currently serving a 20-year sentence after being convicted in Manhattan, of federal sex trafficking conspiracy charges, was asked about every possible thing you could imagine.
00:08:47.000 This was the first opportunity she's ever been given to answer questions about what happened.
00:08:51.000 The truth will come out about what happened with Mr. Epstein, and she's the person who was answering those questions.
00:08:57.000 Blanche had every single question answered during the sit-down, Maxwell's attorney also said, with the British-born convict declining to plead the fifth.
00:09:05.000 Now, there's also been reporting that she was granted limited immunity.
00:09:10.000 Do you know how this works, Kyle?
00:09:10.000 Now, how does that?
00:09:12.000 You were a law enforcement.
00:09:13.000 Well, yeah, usually it's the other way around.
00:09:14.000 Usually what happens is somebody is accused of a crime, and so they come out and they get what's usually called like queen for a day or king for a day status.
00:09:20.000 So they get to talk about whatever it is.
00:09:22.000 They can't be held liable for whatever they disclose as long as they're helping some other case.
00:09:25.000 And that's usually like small fish going after bigger fish, right?
00:09:29.000 So you want to get information about something.
00:09:30.000 It's not very common.
00:09:31.000 And I don't know that I can think of a good example of where you said, hey, by the way, we've got you in jail for in prison for the next 20 years and you got five years of supervised release after that.
00:09:40.000 But we'd also like some other stuff that we never talked to you about previously.
00:09:43.000 So maybe you could give it to us.
00:09:44.000 That limited immunity, I don't know what she would be liable for even because if you go back and read, and I actually pulled it up here because I was curious, the press release about her sentencing, like her crimes go back to 2004.
00:09:58.000 The window that she was actually convicted of of trafficking young girls was 1994 in or about to 2004.
00:10:05.000 So we're now 21 years away from the crimes.
00:10:07.000 There was no statute of limitations on it, but at the end of the day, the only people mentioned in the entire press release, in the sentencing, in the trial, which was a month-long jury trial, people forget, but she actually was tried and convicted by a jury.
00:10:19.000 Like nobody else was mentioned.
00:10:21.000 It was her and Epstein, period.
00:10:23.000 And Epstein's no longer with us, allegedly, maybe.
00:10:27.000 Allegedly, maybe.
00:10:28.000 It seems such an opportunity for them to go, hey, Ghilane Maxwell said it was these people.
00:10:32.000 Now put it to bed.
00:10:33.000 Now, therefore, that's something like, dude, she was complicit in the crime with the guy.
00:10:37.000 Why do you think she's going to talk?
00:10:39.000 Why do you think she would give accurate, or why hasn't she yet?
00:10:43.000 Let me ask you a question, Ian.
00:10:45.000 When a guy who's in prison all of a sudden says, oh, you know, that guy you're prosecuting?
00:10:51.000 He confessed to me.
00:10:53.000 I will testify if you take time off my sentence.
00:10:56.000 They can negotiate that.
00:10:57.000 Can we believe those people?
00:11:00.000 You better have something that backs up more than just your words.
00:11:03.000 If it's just hearsay or an overhear and you can't substantiate it any further.
00:11:08.000 So it's actually really simple.
00:11:09.000 Ghylaine Maxwell.
00:11:11.000 First, the curious thing is the DOJ has never talked to her before?
00:11:14.000 Well, that was so the guy who's the number two at the DOJ is a guy named Todd Blanche, right?
00:11:18.000 And so that's the deputy attorney general.
00:11:20.000 And he posted this on X. He said, no one from the Justice Department has ever spoken to this woman about this before.
00:11:26.000 I actually think he said, has spoken about her ever, which doesn't make any sense because FBI agents arrested her in July of 2020.
00:11:33.000 You know, she clearly would have been questioned.
00:11:35.000 She could have, you know, invoked her right to an attorney and just stayed quiet.
00:11:38.000 That's possible.
00:11:39.000 But no one ever questioned her ever.
00:11:40.000 That doesn't sound reasonable at all.
00:11:42.000 All of this stuff has been this like kind of like boomer theater for me.
00:11:45.000 I hate saying that, but like my parents are boomers and I love them.
00:11:48.000 But like a lot of the words that are being used, like, oh, there's like the, there's the, the Epstein files.
00:11:54.000 And I think people think that there must be like drawers full of paper files.
00:11:57.000 Yeah.
00:11:58.000 And they have a truckload of documents.
00:12:00.000 Like the FBI and the DOJ trade files the same way that you do.
00:12:03.000 They're on a computer somewhere.
00:12:05.000 They're on a server hosted in the cloud and they could be accessed from New York or they could be accessed from, you know, the director's office or from the attorney general's office.
00:12:12.000 So all this stuff has been kind of playing on there's a bunch of these videos.
00:12:16.000 We saw Pam Bondi basically saying over and over again, there's more and more stuff.
00:12:16.000 What's in the videos?
00:12:20.000 She kept hyping it.
00:12:21.000 If you watch what happened from the FBI side, though, Bongino and Patel were actually de-escalating.
00:12:27.000 Every time they sat down, it looked like they were sitting on pins and needles.
00:12:29.000 They were like sitting on like a tackboard and they were really uncomfortable because they were going to have to answer a question that their boss was basically saying there's a bunch of this stuff.
00:12:36.000 And then we ended up with that big bombshell that, oh, there's nothing.
00:12:39.000 People lost their minds about it, which is reasonable.
00:12:41.000 You know, now we're here.
00:12:42.000 I wonder if Gheelain Maxwell is thinking, oh, so they're coming after you, Trump, huh?
00:12:48.000 I can say anything and it's going to, it's going to play, right?
00:12:51.000 I think the Democrats are saying that right now, too.
00:12:53.000 That's what they're trying to claim is that you can't trust her.
00:12:56.000 Right.
00:12:56.000 It's reasonable to say that, to be fair.
00:12:58.000 You can't trust her.
00:12:59.000 It's Gheelan Maxwell.
00:13:00.000 She's in prison for 20 years.
00:13:01.000 What happens if she gives a statement and Trump and the DOJ come out with new documents from witness testimony that says it was actually Dedamshift or Liz Cheney and Raskin who were coordinating with Epstein?
00:13:16.000 And they say, well, this is corroborated witness testimony.
00:13:20.000 There's a million and one conspiracies about what's actually going on.
00:13:23.000 One of them is that this is the pro-Trump side conspiracy, the Democrats put unverified hearsay in there that smears Trump so that he can't release it because it'll be damaging to him.
00:13:34.000 If that is the case, or even if Trump is actually in this, his opportunity now is to go to Guy Lane, have her offer up statements which can overwrite any existing documents and be the documents.
00:13:46.000 Or put it in context, which is probably most likely, if I had to guess.
00:13:49.000 Like, I'm sure that Trump's name has to be in the same source.
00:13:52.000 Yes, but when Trump says, I'm going to release the files, he releases his files that he made right now in his DOJ that implicates his enemies.
00:14:02.000 There's a continuum of possible truth because we don't actually have access to any of the things that the FBI has, and they've obviously not decided to share it with us.
00:14:10.000 So somewhere on, let's say, the right end of this spectrum is the entirety of the criminal conspiracy was a man and a woman who were sickos that were going after young girls that were post-pubescent, but they were underage.
00:14:22.000 And that's what the trafficking operation was.
00:14:23.000 And it ended in 2004.
00:14:25.000 That could be the possibility.
00:14:27.000 Like that's one end of it.
00:14:28.000 The other end of it is, is like this vast criminal conspiracy that stretches across the entire globe where all these global leaders are implicated and everybody is being blackmailed and there's sexual material on all these people.
00:14:38.000 And so you've got that.
00:14:39.000 And the reason why I think the Americans are so dialed in and why they're not going to let this go, which I think was a miscalculation on the Trump administration's part, I think they saw it and thought something was going to happen.
00:14:48.000 They could use some of the influencers and some of the media people to just go, hey, let's just put this to bed.
00:14:53.000 These people that you trust said no.
00:14:54.000 That didn't work.
00:14:55.000 And I think the reason is because there's these three things that are kind of hitting in a car crash, the worst case scenario.
00:15:00.000 You've got elite level people, so people that have more money than God, and they operate at a different level.
00:15:05.000 And we already kind of suspect that they have a different justice system.
00:15:07.000 Then you have the possibility of corruption being involved.
00:15:10.000 So government doing things that it shouldn't do and giving people special treatment because of that money.
00:15:14.000 And then lastly, children being hurt.
00:15:16.000 But we keep saying children because that's what the, you know, the sort of verbiage is out in all the podcast spheres and everything else.
00:15:21.000 But we're talking about, if we're being honest, we're talking about 15, 16, 17 year old girls.
00:15:26.000 They're very young.
00:15:27.000 They make terrible decisions, just like all of us did at that age.
00:15:30.000 But it's not quite the same as imagining like an eight-year-old girl.
00:15:32.000 But these, it is a different thing.
00:15:34.000 So the documents suggest that Keelan Maxwell was asking young women if they wanted to be models.
00:15:40.000 As young as 14.
00:15:41.000 So you put them on a plane.
00:15:43.000 And then once they're on the island, they're like, you're an underage hooker now.
00:15:46.000 You can read like what they had them do.
00:15:48.000 And it was very graphic in the actual conviction.
00:15:50.000 And it involves specific touching.
00:15:52.000 It involved, I'm not going to read it.
00:15:55.000 It's illicit.
00:15:55.000 So if people want to go see it, DOJ has it out there.
00:15:57.000 You can go out and read the press release of what her actual conviction was for.
00:16:00.000 But what it is very, very light on, in fact, to the point where there's nothing other than her and Jeffrey Epstein, there's only two people mentioned there.
00:16:07.000 There's no co-conspirators, which would substantiate what the FBI put out.
00:16:11.000 But at the end of the day, you got a big problem there too, because two of the guys that are running the FBI spent a couple of years telling us something was different, like something very different was true.
00:16:20.000 And a lot of people have accepted these things as fact.
00:16:22.000 And they've also accepted that this guy is an Intel asset, that Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of an intelligence service.
00:16:27.000 And whether that's true or not, the actual thing that people continue to quote was something that Alex Acosta said, allegedly, because somebody else quoted him.
00:16:36.000 It's like second or third.
00:16:37.000 I don't even know how far you go out for hearsay, but it was apparently something he said during a vetting process for a cabinet position in Trump's first administration.
00:16:44.000 And everybody hangs their hat and we're like, well, that's definitive.
00:16:47.000 It turns out that's actually not evidence.
00:16:48.000 That's like some guy said something that he said he thought he heard.
00:16:51.000 What was the thing that got said?
00:16:52.000 They said that Epstein was an intelligence asset.
00:16:55.000 That allegedly got said, but no one.
00:16:57.000 He was told to back off because Epstein belongs to intelligence.
00:17:00.000 But that's, again, that is somebody heard the guy supposedly who said it.
00:17:04.000 And I haven't heard Alice Acosta come out and say that he said that.
00:17:06.000 So it's now, like I said, it's in the sphere of people just accepted as fact.
00:17:10.000 Well, how come nobody's subpoenaing any of these people?
00:17:12.000 How come no one's calling them to testify before Congress?
00:17:15.000 It's all grandstanding with binders and Oh, I totally agree with that because here's the problem.
00:17:19.000 The reason is we already got the definitive statement from DOJ unless something dramatically changed.
00:17:23.000 They actually said the case is closed.
00:17:24.000 We're done with it.
00:17:25.000 There's no further indictments coming.
00:17:26.000 There's no co-conspirators.
00:17:28.000 There's no blackmail or client list.
00:17:29.000 And I don't know why you guys are still talking about it.
00:17:31.000 And then Trump called everybody a weakling that still wanted to talk about it.
00:17:34.000 So this has been like Mike Howell, who works over at Oversight Project, and he's they're a spin-off from Heritage Foundation.
00:17:40.000 He was like, if you wanted to teach a class on the worst possible messaging of a public handling of a case, like this is the one.
00:17:46.000 It is so damn slow.
00:17:48.000 You know, Trump is normally very, very smooth with his words, but ever since Abrego Garcia is like, he has MS-13 printed on his knuckles.
00:17:56.000 And he's totally wrong.
00:17:57.000 I think the shame is like, take this, either he's on that list and he's using this to cover that up or something is, he's just living in shame.
00:18:07.000 Your point about him being really good at this stuff is well taken because he's a master marketer.
00:18:12.000 He comes from the entertainment world where marketing is super important.
00:18:17.000 His brand is worldwide.
00:18:19.000 And it's all because of Donald Trump's decisions.
00:18:22.000 To blow it this bad is, I think, is part of why people are like, what's going on?
00:18:27.000 Agreed.
00:18:28.000 I mean, it could be as simple as people have just basically downplayed it.
00:18:32.000 Who wants to be the guy that gives that guy bad news about something?
00:18:35.000 Like, hey, we were talking about it as a lead up in the campaign.
00:18:38.000 Your son hyped it.
00:18:39.000 Your current FBI director hyped it.
00:18:41.000 Your deputy director hyped it.
00:18:42.000 You've got your attorney general out there currently still hyping it, talking about this thing.
00:18:46.000 And by the way, sir, there's nothing there.
00:18:48.000 We don't have what you think we have.
00:18:49.000 And all we really have is a couple of little documents.
00:18:51.000 And one of them says, you know, it's either a Trump donor or a Trump in there.
00:18:54.000 And it could be in a totally innocuous thing.
00:18:56.000 But just having your name in the quote unquote files that everyone now imagines are these like truckloads of documents, it's a smear at this point.
00:19:03.000 So you look terrible.
00:19:04.000 Nobody, and it's not like we're dealing with honest operators.
00:19:07.000 We're going to be seeing people from the left, which we continue to see throughout the last two or three weeks.
00:19:11.000 They suddenly really desperately care, except Chuck Schumer, who now doesn't want it, which, as you said, that's a fun reversal because a few seconds ago, they were screaming about it.
00:19:19.000 Well, let's pull this up.
00:19:21.000 We've got this from The Hill.
00:19:23.000 Schumer condemns DOJ meeting with Maxwell.
00:19:27.000 Stinks of high corruption.
00:19:28.000 Now, hold on there, gosh Darn minute.
00:19:31.000 Democrats were demanding we expose the Epstein files.
00:19:35.000 So the DOJ says, we are going to dig into this.
00:19:38.000 Trump says, get the grand jury testimony, whatever's credible, put it out there.
00:19:43.000 They said, we're going to go talk with Gheelane.
00:19:45.000 And now the Democrats are freaking out.
00:19:47.000 Could it be that they played a game of chicken with Donald Trump because neither party wants this information released?
00:19:52.000 And now they're realizing Trump's going to do it.
00:19:54.000 I think that as long as they keep this floating and as long as there's not actual evidence to put it to bed, where it's like, they're not going to get the grand jury testimony out of Florida.
00:20:03.000 The judge already denied it.
00:20:04.000 They're probably not going to get it out of New York either.
00:20:06.000 That's the way grand juries work.
00:20:07.000 They're supposed to work and they're operating in secrecy.
00:20:10.000 So you're not going to likely see that.
00:20:11.000 So as long as you can keep that going, you're going to have people that are excited about it.
00:20:15.000 They're going to speculate about it.
00:20:16.000 It's a political win for them as long as it's out there.
00:20:18.000 Because I was on with Alex Jones the other day and he's like, can you give me any good news?
00:20:21.000 Like, is anybody winning?
00:20:23.000 I'm like, yeah, of course people are winning.
00:20:24.000 But you know who's winning?
00:20:25.000 The people that are not in the news.
00:20:27.000 The people that are actually like uncovering actual corruption, which got done, people like Secretary Wright over at DOE.
00:20:33.000 They're people that are doing good work.
00:20:35.000 They just don't do it on Fox.
00:20:37.000 And that's the way most governments have run for all of my lifetime and all of everybody else's lifetime because you usually don't go and try to adjudicate your successes on Fox News every single night.
00:20:47.000 That's not usually the way that these.
00:20:48.000 How many times have you ever seen an interview with an attorney general in one month?
00:20:52.000 What's the most you've ever seen?
00:20:54.000 I mean, I can't even think of him off.
00:20:55.000 Before Bondi, never.
00:20:57.000 Exactly.
00:20:57.000 You never saw Merrick Garland running out there and like running to see if he could sit down with MSNBC.
00:21:01.000 Maybe he did a weekend show or something.
00:21:02.000 Unless they had some political smear to launch the last minute before election.
00:21:05.000 Exactly.
00:21:06.000 That's it.
00:21:06.000 It just doesn't happen in this way.
00:21:08.000 So we're seeing something totally different.
00:21:09.000 And now people are like, they're like, okay, if the game has changed, then I want to see more.
00:21:13.000 Like, now you need to give us total transparency.
00:21:15.000 And at the end of the day, the real work of government continues on, you know, whether we like it or not.
00:21:19.000 And it's just not done on Fox.
00:21:22.000 My concern, it's a bit conspiracy oriented, Mike, is that because you mentioned earlier how these girls that Epstein was trafficking and Gheelane were trafficking were, I don't know if trafficking is the right word, but they weren't pre-profit.
00:21:33.000 It is trafficking.
00:21:34.000 Trafficking, technically.
00:21:35.000 No, no, literal.
00:21:36.000 Trafficking is when someone is taken to a place to be forced to do work that they don't want to do.
00:21:40.000 There's something about crossing borders, I think, that delineates between smuggling and trafficking.
00:21:45.000 Smuggling is when, like, so a person is an illegal immigrant and wants to come to the US and get smuggled in.
00:21:49.000 That smuggling trafficking would be they're brought here to do labor.
00:21:52.000 So if you're taking young girls and tricking them to go to an island to do sex work, you're trafficking them.
00:21:56.000 So they, it, it seems like they weren't pre-pubescent.
00:22:00.000 So it's not pedophilia.
00:22:01.000 That indicates pre-pubescent.
00:22:03.000 We talked about this last week, actually.
00:22:04.000 It was Phil's laughing.
00:22:05.000 And I think a lot of people involved.
00:22:06.000 Nobody really makes the distinction in their head.
00:22:08.000 People are going to feel, like, the people involved are like, if this kits out, my name gets put on a list and people think I'm a pedophile.
00:22:13.000 You know how pedophiles get treated.
00:22:15.000 So they're going to the ends of the earth to cover it up.
00:22:17.000 When in reality, 14-year-old women, age of consent in a lot of countries, giving a guy a massage and then he thinks he's 18 and he has sex with her, not pedophilia.
00:22:25.000 You have your own emotions about it.
00:22:26.000 But if we can somehow maybe lower the heat on it, it's pederasty, but it's still illegal.
00:22:33.000 And there's a reason why culturally.
00:22:36.000 I just want to say something very, very carefully and clearly for you, Ian.
00:22:42.000 The distinction you are trying to draw us is a lot about what you want, because society largely disagrees with everything you just said.
00:22:48.000 That's true.
00:22:49.000 Pedophilia is pedophiles.
00:22:52.000 Typically, when you see people like Stephen King or whoever else, you know, because he wrote those creepy books talking about that stuff, when people are publicly trying to draw a distinction between what it means to be sleeping with underage women, 99.9% of people in this country are like, why are you bringing that up?
00:23:09.000 Because none of us agree with you.
00:23:10.000 You're flying too close to the sun, Ian.
00:23:11.000 I'm like, yeah, well, you got to get up here.
00:23:13.000 No, Ian.
00:23:14.000 This is where the keys are.
00:23:15.000 No, Ian, you're telling on yourself.
00:23:17.000 It's not.
00:23:18.000 A 17-year-old underage girl is not pedophilia.
00:23:20.000 Not like a 16-year-old girl.
00:23:21.000 It's not a girl.
00:23:22.000 In this country disagree with you.
00:23:24.000 And it's also a strict liability crime in almost every single state.
00:23:28.000 So that means it doesn't matter whether you know or not the age, if they are under the age of consent, it is considered statutory rape.
00:23:34.000 So just so you understand like the legality of it, you get like you're sideways of it on cultural norms.
00:23:40.000 I do understand the distinction you're making.
00:23:41.000 There are legal ages of consent in other places, 16 years old sometimes.
00:23:45.000 Even in the United States.
00:23:46.000 But in the United States, West Virginia, literally.
00:23:48.000 We generally look at the age of majority being 18.
00:23:51.000 And then anything under whatever the age of consent is, it's almost always a strict liability crime, which means whether you knew it or not, whether she was someone who went through puberty at 11 or 12 and blossomed and looks like a young woman.
00:24:03.000 And yeah, everyone's been to like a public pool.
00:24:05.000 I'm actually a father.
00:24:06.000 I'm constantly like disgusted by what dads will have their daughters out there in the world looking like.
00:24:10.000 I'm like, good God almighty.
00:24:12.000 Like, so your 16 year old looks like 25.
00:24:14.000 That doesn't still put you within, just because someone looks older, it doesn't correct it on the legal side.
00:24:20.000 This is important.
00:24:20.000 In 30 states and D.C., it's 16.
00:24:23.000 So most of the United States.
00:24:24.000 And the reason is, the reason they do that, which is why 14, by the way, only 13 states have an age of 18 consent.
00:24:31.000 But the reason they do that is so that way 18-year-old teenage boys, essentially 17, 18-year-old boys, that if they have sex with their 16-year-old girlfriend, it doesn't ruin their life.
00:24:41.000 That's called the Romeo and Juliet exemptions, and they exist in most.
00:24:44.000 That's not why that, that's not all they're doing.
00:24:47.000 And so I'm pretty sure this is, this is like Illinois is a good example.
00:24:50.000 I can't speak for other places.
00:24:51.000 If a 19-year-old is in a relationship with a 16-year-old in Illinois, that's a Romeo and Juliet exemption because they're both going to the same school.
00:24:59.000 They're around the same age.
00:25:01.000 Or it's like they met in high school and the kid graduated.
00:25:03.000 So they cut slack.
00:25:04.000 I think if it's within three years, you get a Romeo and Juliet exemption.
00:25:10.000 So what's the point of 16 then?
00:25:10.000 So then why?
00:25:12.000 Some states set it at 16.
00:25:15.000 They raised it.
00:25:16.000 Legitimately.
00:25:17.000 It's broken.
00:25:18.000 Mississippi was 14 for a long time.
00:25:20.000 Like I grew up in Mississippi, right?
00:25:21.000 So then they raised it to 16.
00:25:23.000 When?
00:25:26.000 It didn't feel like it was that long ago.
00:25:27.000 I don't know the exact date, but I do know that they raised it.
00:25:30.000 I mean, it's a weird conversation, but I like it.
00:25:32.000 It's like age and time is motion, and people change and grow at different rates.
00:25:37.000 You know, that's a biological reality, especially with like hormones.
00:25:41.000 Right, which people, that's why they put a baseline at the lowest level and say this is like as low as it should be appropriate.
00:25:48.000 It changes culturally.
00:25:49.000 I get what you're saying.
00:25:50.000 But at the end of the day, at the United States, the other thing that's really weird too is that child pornography laws come into play sometimes because everybody is involved with smartphones and transmission of images.
00:25:59.000 You fall underneath the federal statute under a certain age and you transmit it to someone who's above, now you're in really bad shape, and you may be within the age of consent in your own state.
00:26:09.000 There was a story racing.
00:26:10.000 This used to happen with Polaroids back in the day.
00:26:12.000 There was a case when I was in high school.
00:26:14.000 I knew a guy who had gotten a Polaroid of a girlfriend or something.
00:26:17.000 It was a huge scandal in this little town.
00:26:19.000 And he was 17.
00:26:20.000 I think she was 17.
00:26:22.000 And they went after him for child pornography.
00:26:24.000 There was a story out of Illinois where two, there's like a 14-year-old girl and a 12-year-old boy, and they were Snapchatting each other.
00:26:33.000 And when the parents got angry, and because the parents of the 12-year-old boy, they called the police, the police said, we're going to arrest your son for child pornography too.
00:26:41.000 Unless you, if you really want to go down this route, because the law doesn't draw a distinction.
00:26:44.000 And the parents were like, what?
00:26:45.000 And they, yeah.
00:26:45.000 No.
00:26:46.000 It doesn't.
00:26:47.000 Scandal.
00:26:47.000 Yeah, no, it's, and your transmission.
00:26:49.000 So anytime you hit anything that's interstate, then you start becoming really every single person.
00:26:53.000 There was a story.
00:26:54.000 And so that's when it becomes a federal issue.
00:26:56.000 There was a story recently where I think the guy was 20 and he met a woman at a bar who was 17, but she had a fake ID and they went and had sex.
00:27:05.000 And then later, I forget how it came to light.
00:27:09.000 He gets arrested.
00:27:10.000 The mother of the woman he slept with, who was at the time not a woman, she was 17 at the time.
00:27:15.000 Then it was like a year later in court.
00:27:17.000 And her mom testified on his behalf that she deceived him and lied to him.
00:27:20.000 And the court did not care.
00:27:22.000 Strict liability.
00:27:22.000 Yeah, they don't care.
00:27:23.000 Yeah.
00:27:24.000 And for what it's worth, I was just double-checking my math because I had it in my head.
00:27:27.000 But minor under the federal statute, particularly when it comes to images or anything like that and transmission on interstate.
00:27:33.000 So all your servers, you know, anything, if you were to mail it, I guess that would also be an issue.
00:27:36.000 Minor means anyone under the age of 18.
00:27:38.000 But let's clarify something too, Ian.
00:27:41.000 Again, your distinction is completely immaterial to the fact that there were, let's say a 16-year-old, right, was told by Maxwell, at least this is some of the reported what they were doing, saying, we're wealthy financiers and we can have you model.
00:27:54.000 And they would go, wow, come on our private jet.
00:27:56.000 Wow, where to?
00:27:57.000 Part in a private island with billionaires.
00:27:58.000 This is amazing.
00:27:59.000 They bring them there and say, now you can't leave unless you have sex with these men.
00:28:03.000 Yeah, that's a little messed up.
00:28:04.000 It's similar to what, I don't want to drag Andrew Tate.
00:28:06.000 It's messed up.
00:28:07.000 But like Andrew, I was saying it was similar to what Andrew Tate was doing with those girls to come be his chat cam girls and then he'd get them there and apparently would keep them against their will or that was maybe the insinuation.
00:28:17.000 It's one thing if you make them have sex with someone.
00:28:20.000 That's like.
00:28:20.000 Well, I will say this.
00:28:21.000 The challenging thing about the Tate case is that those, I think the charges all failed every time they've brought him up and several women have testified in his defense.
00:28:29.000 So say whatever you want about him.
00:28:31.000 I don't know as much.
00:28:32.000 Gheelan Maxwell was convicted.
00:28:33.000 Andrew Tate was actually, the charges fell apart.
00:28:35.000 Yeah, the Gee-Lane thing, and I'll bring up Lex Westner.
00:28:37.000 I don't know how involved he was.
00:28:38.000 He runs Victoria's Secret or ran it at the time.
00:28:40.000 And there was a throughput, I believe, from the Maxwell and Victoria Secret.
00:28:45.000 They were like buddies.
00:28:46.000 I don't know the extent of their relationship.
00:28:47.000 Yeah, so the way that that, and this is one of the reasons why people ask, because it's like, quote-unquote, unexplained wealth is the big story in Jeffrey Epstein's case.
00:28:55.000 So just the quick primer on it is he was a teacher at the Dalton School, which is a very fancy private school in New York.
00:29:01.000 He had no college degree, and he theoretically wouldn't even have been in line to be teaching there.
00:29:06.000 But he was hired, and this is where you start getting into famous name theater, but he was hired by Donald Barr, who is the attorney, the former attorney general's dad, Bill Barr.
00:29:17.000 Okay, so Donald Barr was the headmaster, apparently hired Jeffrey Epstein with no college degree to teach math and physics.
00:29:23.000 And then Donald Barr left.
00:29:25.000 Jeffrey Epstein started his first terms, was there for a little while.
00:29:28.000 And then after he was there for a little bit, he inexplicably makes the leap from non-credentialed high school teacher at very expensive private school to investment banker at Bear Stearns.
00:29:39.000 And the claim is, is that the CEO of Bear Stearns' child was either tutored by or one of his friends, his kid's friends was tutored by Epstein, saw talent and brought him in to Bear Stearns.
00:29:50.000 He did that for a couple of years.
00:29:52.000 Then he jumps into this asset recovery company that he created.
00:29:56.000 And then somewhere in that couple years, in the early 1980s, he suddenly is the guy who is in charge of all of Les Wexner's financial investments to the point where in 1991, Les Wechner, who, as you said, owned the limited and then Victoria's Secret was one of the companies as well.
00:30:11.000 And the guy was a multi-billionaire.
00:30:13.000 He signed over his power of attorney for all financials to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:30:18.000 I think the year was like 1991.
00:30:20.000 Somebody will fact check me on that, but it's right around there, which makes no sense whatsoever.
00:30:23.000 And Les Wexner also gave him the famous penthouse or the apartment that he had in New York City, which people don't know why he did that.
00:30:31.000 It was like a 50-something million-dollar property in the 1990s.
00:30:34.000 And he just signed it over to him, free and clear.
00:30:36.000 So all of that made people ask questions.
00:30:38.000 That's where a lot of the intelligence questions came in, addition to the fact that Maxwell's dad had a bunch of people from the Israeli intelligence service attend his funeral.
00:30:45.000 So you've got all these strange things.
00:30:46.000 It's tons of smoke.
00:30:48.000 There's very little in the way of concrete facts.
00:30:50.000 And nobody knows how the guy became worth like close to a billion dollars if he was, because it's not the way people do business.
00:30:57.000 You don't go from being a high school teacher to being a trader to being a guy who is then privately managing a billionaire's wealth.
00:31:06.000 And then he also received flat fees in the millions of dollars a year as opposed to based on performance, which is the way most people get.
00:31:13.000 All of that's really strange.
00:31:14.000 Who got his money after he died?
00:31:16.000 Epstein.
00:31:16.000 Who's that?
00:31:17.000 So the estate is still out there and it's been contested by a number of the victims that have claimed.
00:31:22.000 And there's like something like 150 or 200 victims that have gone out there and filed claims.
00:31:26.000 So all the young women that were apparently involved in this, and they're briefly mentioned in Maxwell's, going back to the original topic, they're briefly mentioned.
00:31:34.000 I just want to read you, if you don't mind, like from the sentencing document, so you get an idea of what they were saying they did.
00:31:38.000 They said that Maxwell attempted to befriend certain victims, asking them about their lives, their schools, their families, taking them to the movies on shopping trips, and then acclimated them to Epstein's conduct by being present as the victims interacted with Epstein, which put the victims at ease, providing a certain amount of assurance and comfort that there was an adult woman there.
00:31:54.000 So all this was very grooming-like behavior.
00:31:56.000 And then they go on to talk about the things you said, paying for travel, educational opportunities, encourage them to accept Epstein's assistance and whatever it was, making the victims feel like they were indebted.
00:32:05.000 So all of this is very like aggressive, grooming type behaviors.
00:32:09.000 And it goes back to like 1994 when he's already got a ton of money and he's tied in with the people you were just talking about.
00:32:14.000 So the story of Epstein is, I think, fascinating to people mostly because it's a lot of money.
00:32:20.000 There's not a lot of explanation why he has it, how he got into those positions, his interest in young women, whether you agree or not, like it's younger than is acceptable by most of American society.
00:32:30.000 And then you get to the final place where he goes into a jail cell and 30 days in, kills himself, and there's all this lore around it, which is far more than what you ever see in the court document.
00:32:39.000 What is this?
00:32:39.000 You said Lex Wesner signed over power of attorney of his fine.
00:32:43.000 What does that mean exactly?
00:32:44.000 He gave him power of attorney, which means that he had the same authority to make decisions as Les himself would.
00:32:51.000 With his finances.
00:32:52.000 With his finances.
00:32:52.000 He could invest all Lex's money in his own company, and that would be completely legal.
00:32:56.000 And what's interesting is he was actually, apparently, he left his job at Bear Stearns for an insider trading problem.
00:32:56.000 Yeah.
00:33:01.000 He like lends somebody some money while he was doing some insider trading stuff to the tune of like 300 grand.
00:33:05.000 So he got censored and he had to leave.
00:33:06.000 We got a quick addition, not necessarily a correction, but in federal matters pertaining to interstate travel, the age of consent is always 18.
00:33:15.000 I think it's a man act thing.
00:33:16.000 It goes back to the, which was like a white slave trafficking law.
00:33:20.000 And then the weird thing now we're facing is digital information transfer, because if an image is seen in a state and then it goes to a server in Alaska and then comes back to the state, no one ever sees it in Alaska.
00:33:31.000 It's just on a server.
00:33:32.000 And the person only sees it here and here on two phones in the same state.
00:33:35.000 Technically, the image never, the electricity left.
00:33:38.000 They literally do.
00:33:39.000 They do that as part of the argument when they do these filings.
00:33:42.000 And they actually argue it in court that the servers exist in these places.
00:33:46.000 Let's say if you want to do a federal case on guns, for example, they will make the argument that it is a federal matter simply because the gun was not made in the state that you're in and therefore it had to be trafficked in there.
00:33:55.000 So if you live in a state outside of Georgia and you have a Glock, then you have now found yourself in an interstate commerce situation.
00:34:01.000 These lines are very, very...
00:34:06.000 It definitely shouldn't be used as justification for federal law enforcement to be able to grab everything that goes outside of the state.
00:34:11.000 And so in the case of what you're talking about, anything that touches the telco wires, touches a server, touches a cloud, even if you like theoretically are just you to me, it's assumed to be an interstate matter at that point.
00:34:24.000 It's the means of communication.
00:34:25.000 It doesn't actually have to show that it went anywhere.
00:34:27.000 And so just using that technology is enough to make it a federal matter.
00:34:31.000 Whether you like it or not, that's just how it plays out.
00:34:33.000 It's Friday and Ian's here.
00:34:34.000 So we're going to jump to this next story from the New York Post.
00:34:36.000 It's got aliens.
00:34:37.000 Possibly hostile alien threat detected an unknown interstellar object.
00:34:42.000 A shocking news study claims.
00:34:45.000 It's the New York Post.
00:34:47.000 The New York Post says, a mysterious intergalactic object could potentially be a hostile alien spacecraft that's slated to attack our planet in November, according to a controversial news study by a small group of scientists.
00:34:59.000 The consequences, should the hypothesis turn to be correct, could be potentially dire for humanity.
00:35:03.000 You think?
00:35:04.000 The researchers wrote in the inflammatory paper, which was published July 16th, to the preprint server, ARXIV, Southwest News Service reported, and here's a picture that proves it.
00:35:17.000 It's aliens.
00:35:19.000 Actually, it's Galactus.
00:35:21.000 Those are the Infinity Gems.
00:35:22.000 He made them a lot of money.
00:35:24.000 I like that it was a small number of scientists in a controversial paper.
00:35:28.000 Yep.
00:35:29.000 Dubbed 3.
00:35:30.000 You know what's funny is I don't know if that's an I or an L. Dubbed 3L Atlas.
00:35:35.000 The interstellar entity was discovered on July 1st rocketing toward the sun at more than 130,000 miles per hour.
00:35:40.000 Less than 24 hours later, it was confirmed to be an interstellar object with initial observation suggesting it could be a comet measuring up to 15 miles in diameter, larger than Manhattan.
00:35:51.000 Could also be Uber Eats Galactic.
00:35:54.000 However, in the paper, the trio of researchers suggested it might be a piece of extraterrestrial spy technology in disguise.
00:36:00.000 I mean, comets aren't generally interstellar.
00:36:03.000 They come from the Yort Cloud, and the Yort Cloud is technically part of our solar system.
00:36:07.000 And they're in orbit.
00:36:08.000 Yeah, and they're in orbit around the Sun.
00:36:10.000 So it's not interstellar.
00:36:12.000 So if this is actually interstellar, it does make it novel because we don't have things coming from Umuamwa or whatever.
00:36:19.000 Remember that?
00:36:20.000 Yeah.
00:36:21.000 Oh, the planetary.
00:36:23.000 No, it's a interstellar oblong object.
00:36:26.000 2017, right?
00:36:28.000 Yeah, Umwamwa or something.
00:36:30.000 Big long rock.
00:36:31.000 That's what it was called.
00:36:32.000 I can picture the AI graphic of it, but I don't know what it was called.
00:36:35.000 Umuamua.
00:36:36.000 There it is.
00:36:37.000 I've been thinking about the substance.
00:36:38.000 Can the spirits get angry?
00:36:40.000 Do you think spirits can feel emotion?
00:36:42.000 What do you mean by spirits?
00:36:43.000 You have to define your terms.
00:36:45.000 Well, like your subconscious.
00:36:47.000 What?
00:36:47.000 That's a...
00:36:48.000 Okay.
00:36:48.000 You know, your subconscious has, like, thoughts in its own kind of...
00:36:53.000 90 degrees.
00:36:54.000 I think that's like your radio receiver to the spirits.
00:36:58.000 Yeah, but it's all come through one loud spirit.
00:37:00.000 You think this is spirits?
00:37:02.000 Well, I don't know.
00:37:03.000 I've seen people call for the asteroid twice this week, and I wonder if there's something about.
00:37:07.000 I always thought they were calling for the sweet meteor of death.
00:37:09.000 Yeah.
00:37:10.000 It's called the S-M-O-D, the SMOD.
00:37:13.000 Two of my friends wrote that in on the presidential election.
00:37:15.000 Sweet meteor of death.
00:37:16.000 That's what they wrote in.
00:37:18.000 They wanted SMOD 2024.
00:37:20.000 Honestly, it's the waiting I can't stand.
00:37:21.000 It's really the worst part of it.
00:37:22.000 That's what it all comes down to hurry up and wait.
00:37:25.000 The worst part will be once it's announced that it's inbound and then you have to wait for it.
00:37:28.000 It'll be the funniest thing ever, just the funniest, if like come November, there's a gigantic ship in the sky coming.
00:37:35.000 People are going to take clips of the show and boy, are we going to get roasted.
00:37:37.000 Put it in the New York Post.
00:37:38.000 At that point, we're going to have such bigger problems.
00:37:40.000 We're going to be trying to.
00:37:41.000 Oh, no, the only thing we want to care about is our reputations.
00:37:44.000 You got this wrong.
00:37:45.000 Shut up.
00:37:45.000 Stop making fun of me.
00:37:46.000 Make more room in the shelter.
00:37:50.000 I mean, the entire internet is just alive with people saying they'll do anything to not release the Epstein files.
00:37:58.000 This is the distraction.
00:37:59.000 Yeah, that's what happens.
00:38:01.000 Early this morning, my buddy and I were talking, and we decided that we need three things in this country right now.
00:38:05.000 We need a better class of grifters.
00:38:06.000 We need better psyops, which Elon Musk actually tweeted as well.
00:38:09.000 And my buddy came to a novel conclusion that is also true.
00:38:12.000 We need better conquerors or villains.
00:38:14.000 He's like, what a terrible time to be alive in 2025.
00:38:18.000 And like back in the day, you used to have like actual strongmen, dictator, evil people that would come in.
00:38:24.000 They'd put people's heads on pikes.
00:38:25.000 And we have like Bill Gates like quietly plotting like whether or not we're going to population.
00:38:29.000 He's got big old moves.
00:38:30.000 He just doesn't Trump can't lie.
00:38:33.000 Okay, so part of me wants to believe all of the like the aliens is a distraction and Obama's a distraction.
00:38:40.000 And, you know, Trump is fumbling on purpose because there's a deeper plan here and it's 5D chess.
00:38:45.000 But I think the reality is Trump is just very not good at handling this PR disaster.
00:38:50.000 And the most frustrating thing about it is there's probably a 24-year-old marketing intern who could have done it better.
00:38:56.000 We should also probably also give the grace where it is that he's got to be exhausted.
00:39:00.000 Oh, yeah.
00:39:00.000 Sure.
00:39:01.000 Because being beaten down for 10 straight years where everything you do is scrutinized.
00:39:05.000 Like the other day, he went out and talked about how his uncle, who's no longer with us, was a teacher of Fred Kaczynski.
00:39:11.000 Or It was a John, John Trump.
00:39:12.000 Wait, what?
00:39:13.000 You didn't hear this?
00:39:14.000 Tesla guy?
00:39:15.000 Yeah.
00:39:16.000 Wait, wait, the Tesla guy was a teacher of Kaczynski.
00:39:18.000 Well, that's what he claimed.
00:39:19.000 The problem is that his uncle died in like 1985 or 1986, and Kaczynski was founded in 1996.
00:39:24.000 So there's a big gap of no possibilities there.
00:39:26.000 No one knew who Ted Kaczynski was at the time.
00:39:28.000 So nobody could ask that question.
00:39:29.000 And he never attended MIT, which is where John Trump actually taught.
00:39:33.000 So that's not a true story.
00:39:35.000 And at some point in time, when you start saying funny things like that and you're just, look, you get tired and you just start talking.
00:39:40.000 He said a lot of things.
00:39:41.000 Wasn't that Ben Shapiro's quote about Donald Trump that when he dies, his tombstone will say, Donald Trump, you know, he said a lot of things.
00:39:48.000 I think he had a more colorful term for it.
00:39:50.000 It definitely seems like he's probably thinking, oh my God, I'm going to go through all this and then they're going to use this stupid Epstein thing to get my name because I was there with Epstein because I've known him and they're going to try and do me this way.
00:40:00.000 I'm not letting it happen.
00:40:01.000 Like that feels what's going on right now.
00:40:04.000 Okay, so one of the first things you learn in marketing when you're 18 and you're going to your first college 101 class is they say, in almost every circumstance, your best course of action is to say and do nothing.
00:40:17.000 And Trump is like, I'm going to do the opposite and just not shut up for two weeks.
00:40:21.000 That wasn't bad.
00:40:22.000 Hold my beer.
00:40:23.000 That wasn't a bad Trump.
00:40:23.000 Hold my beer.
00:40:25.000 Hold my beer.
00:40:25.000 Yeah, no, he can't do it.
00:40:28.000 This was the argument about Trump 1.0 as well.
00:40:30.000 Like a little bit of discipline would have gone so far if he had just not said some things.
00:40:35.000 People would have just looked at their 401k at the end of like 2019.
00:40:38.000 They'd be like, man, we're doing really fine.
00:40:39.000 That's why I'm like, this has to be on purpose because there's no way you go, why are you still talking about Epstein?
00:40:44.000 Nobody cares about Epstein.
00:40:46.000 You're all weak and you're not my supporters.
00:40:48.000 Screw you.
00:40:49.000 And it's like, well, now they're going to talk about it twice.
00:40:51.000 The ultimate Streisan effect on that.
00:40:53.000 Right.
00:40:53.000 And Trump knows this.
00:40:54.000 Come on.
00:40:54.000 And he must feel like, I don't need their votes anymore anyway.
00:40:57.000 So that's about orbiting.
00:41:00.000 That's not true.
00:41:01.000 He doesn't need their votes.
00:41:02.000 I mean, I guess you need the midterm votes.
00:41:03.000 In 2018, Trump was campaigning in the midterms because he said, I will be impeached if you do not vote for these people.
00:41:10.000 He needs these midterm votes.
00:41:11.000 Didn't they just come out and say, didn't the Democrats just come out and say that they're not interested in impeachment because it would just be...
00:41:17.000 What are you talking about?
00:41:18.000 They only tell us the truth, Phil.
00:41:19.000 And I'm not going to have that from you.
00:41:20.000 How dare you?
00:41:21.000 Absolutely impeaching.
00:41:24.000 There's a.
00:41:25.000 I was just saying, they said it.
00:41:27.000 There's a profile on me and the company in the Wall Street Journal.
00:41:30.000 Recent?
00:41:31.000 Today, actually.
00:41:32.000 Oh, nice.
00:41:32.000 They came down and took photos.
00:41:34.000 I think they were actually very fair and very nice.
00:41:36.000 I think it was actually, you know, considering how the media writes about people in this space, I would call it a puff piece, meaning like they didn't insult me.
00:41:43.000 But they did say that we veer into conspiracy territory.
00:41:47.000 And I was talking to the reporter, I said, she asked me, like, do you think this is conspiracy?
00:41:51.000 I said, no, I actually think I completely agree with the entirety of the Democratic Party and the liberal media on the Epstein files needing to be released.
00:41:58.000 And for some reason, Trump isn't wanting to.
00:42:00.000 So there's potentially some agenda behind this.
00:42:03.000 And she still wrote that I was like veering into conspiracy territory.
00:42:05.000 But it wasn't like insulting or anything.
00:42:08.000 I just think that it is somewhat frustrating that finally the Democrats are screaming conspiracy.
00:42:15.000 And we are all still conspiracy theorists now, even if we agree with what they're screaming conspiracy about.
00:42:20.000 So this is the discussion I actually had this with your driver on the way in.
00:42:23.000 You can agree with people and have totally different motives.
00:42:27.000 Oh, yeah.
00:42:27.000 Right?
00:42:28.000 You could have the idea that you're like, that guy needs to go away and it needs to happen violently.
00:42:33.000 And it could be because you want to take all of his money and you're a thief, but it could also be because he did something really terrible in your town or hurt somebody that you know.
00:42:40.000 And you could have the same exact goal or end.
00:42:42.000 In the case of the government, the Democrats, when it comes to like voting for things, they're like, there's not enough puff and government money here.
00:42:48.000 We're not doing enough bloat.
00:42:50.000 And then you see people on the right that are like, I don't like this bill.
00:42:52.000 It has too much of that.
00:42:54.000 They both vote the same way.
00:42:55.000 They both get smeared the same.
00:42:56.000 So whether you're being fair or not, if you agree with people that you're not supposed to, apparently, you get smeared.
00:43:01.000 So are we in agreement then?
00:43:02.000 We are hoping the aliens are coming to destroy us?
00:43:04.000 Yeah, I thought that was assumed.
00:43:06.000 No, we are becoming aliens, man.
00:43:06.000 Okay, all right.
00:43:08.000 We're merging with the machine.
00:43:09.000 You think it's our probes are already on Mars?
00:43:12.000 Is this even a conversation?
00:43:13.000 You're just like, every time anyone says anything, I don't think there's external aliens.
00:43:17.000 On your own.
00:43:18.000 We have the moon.
00:43:19.000 You'd have to find a planet with the moon.
00:43:21.000 We have the moon.
00:43:22.000 We do have the moon.
00:43:23.000 None of the moon with a moon like ours that can create tides that will allow life to thrive like we are.
00:43:29.000 How do you know, though?
00:43:29.000 How do you know?
00:43:31.000 Have you ever been to the moon?
00:43:35.000 Okay, that was a good idea.
00:43:36.000 So one of the best, I remember I was driving through Montana and I was listening to Joe Rogan talking to Alex Jones.
00:43:41.000 And you ever have one of those things where someone says something and it expands your mind and it'll never go back to the original size?
00:43:45.000 He's like, I don't think that there's extraterrestrials.
00:43:48.000 I think that all the things that people think are aliens are actually human beings from the future because who else would be more interested in human beings than human beings at some distant point in the future?
00:43:56.000 And I was like, oh no, like, I don't know that is true.
00:43:58.000 And I don't even know that I believe it's true.
00:44:00.000 I just went like, oh, man, I've never thought of that as being a real person.
00:44:02.000 Well, the theory is that grays are future humans.
00:44:06.000 Okay, do you know the story about the grays with me?
00:44:07.000 No, I don't.
00:44:09.000 You met one.
00:44:10.000 I was sitting in my boss's office in 2022, my FBI supervisor.
00:44:13.000 I'm on duty and they've just assigned me to a squad and gave me no work.
00:44:18.000 So he calls me to the office because they were trying to punish me.
00:44:20.000 They put me on a national security squad because they were going to get rid of me.
00:44:22.000 This is after my whistleblowing activity.
00:44:24.000 They kicked me out for COVID stuff.
00:44:25.000 Now I'm back in the office.
00:44:26.000 I'm sitting there and I have no work.
00:44:28.000 So I like, I refresh all my paramedic stuff and I get called in the office.
00:44:31.000 My boss hits me down.
00:44:32.000 He goes, so what sort of work do you want to do here?
00:44:34.000 And I was like, oh, I don't want to be on a national security squad.
00:44:36.000 So I'll do whatever you ask me, but I'm not going to tell you I want to do anything because I don't.
00:44:40.000 And he was like, and it went do, do.
00:44:42.000 So he looks at me.
00:44:43.000 He's looking at me and he goes, well, you got to pick something.
00:44:46.000 And I go, well, I'm not really excited about anything.
00:44:49.000 And then I, then I had this little moment about the Dolce base that kicked into my head because one of my buddies, who's also an FBI agent, was really excited about it.
00:44:55.000 And so I look over and there's a map of New Mexico.
00:44:57.000 I go, maybe I can go up to the Archolita Mesa and do some investigations into the Dolce base.
00:45:01.000 Do you think I can get like a travel voucher to get some approved travel a couple days, go ask some questions?
00:45:05.000 And he goes, what's the Dolce base?
00:45:07.000 I go, it's one of the dumbs.
00:45:09.000 And he was like, I don't know what that is.
00:45:10.000 And I was like, oh, they're the deep underground military bases.
00:45:12.000 There's like a dozen of them around New Mexico.
00:45:14.000 They're all connected with like, you know, like a cavernous cave system.
00:45:16.000 And I just, apparently there was a big fight back in the 80s between Delta Force and some of the Greys.
00:45:20.000 And so, you know, apparently an FBI agent was actually killed in the gunfire.
00:45:24.000 And so I would like to go and do an investigation of that, see if we can come up with anything and go check out what happened to our brothers.
00:45:29.000 And he goes, When you say grays, you mean aliens.
00:45:35.000 And I sat there for a second.
00:45:36.000 I looked at him and I go, What do you call them?
00:45:41.000 He goes, Dude, I don't know if you're being serious with me right now.
00:45:43.000 And I was like, Me neither.
00:45:45.000 And then I left, and they never assigned me anything.
00:45:47.000 And now I don't work there anymore.
00:45:48.000 What if they might have been firing because of the alien question?
00:45:50.000 I'm just you mean you had an opportunity to get in on the X-Files?
00:45:53.000 Tried.
00:45:54.000 Tried desperately.
00:45:55.000 That's what I'm telling you.
00:45:56.000 I gave it my best shot.
00:45:57.000 And I basically, they gave me the blank look.
00:45:59.000 And by the way, I went to blank look.
00:46:01.000 They just were like, what are you talking about?
00:46:03.000 After you left, he picks up his phone.
00:46:03.000 No, no, no, no.
00:46:05.000 He goes, he's on to a seraphin's out.
00:46:07.000 Seraphin's out.
00:46:08.000 Punch his ticket.
00:46:09.000 I was hanging out.
00:46:10.000 I think about the spirits, and I think spirits because they control the aliens.
00:46:14.000 When you say Seraphina, your spirit airlines.
00:46:16.000 Well, I think the spirit is like the guy playing a video game.
00:46:19.000 We're the character in the video game, the avatar getting moved around, and the spirit is the controller, the guy watching the TV of us doing our life.
00:46:25.000 So when you see the spirits and they see you, and you realize you're, it'd be like if your video game character turns and looks at you and is like, what the fuck?
00:46:33.000 And then you can interact with your spirit, which is like all of human spirit combined into this one.
00:46:37.000 It's one fourth wall break.
00:46:38.000 They do this in Hollywood sometimes.
00:46:40.000 Yeah, and I think faux pas until they did Ferris Bueller.
00:46:43.000 I think it's you, aspects of you, but what happens is you grow up, you get old, you die, and then you're born as a spirit.
00:46:49.000 And as a spirit, you grow up.
00:46:50.000 And when you die as a spirit, you become a human.
00:46:53.000 And we're like in this co-partner.
00:46:55.000 What's the name of this theology?
00:46:57.000 Ianism.
00:46:58.000 I don't know.
00:46:58.000 Raj.
00:46:59.000 Yeah.
00:47:00.000 How well accepted is it?
00:47:01.000 Not at all.
00:47:02.000 In fact, there's a general disdain for it.
00:47:05.000 It would be accepted under Title VII, just so you know, you can have that.
00:47:09.000 Title VII would assume that you were sincere and genuine in your beliefs.
00:47:12.000 Tax-free?
00:47:13.000 Oh, dude, no one doubts Ian.
00:47:14.000 Yeah, no, there's no tax-free status for it.
00:47:16.000 It just reminds me of like a Rogan conversation if he was high.
00:47:21.000 I've never done it.
00:47:22.000 I've never done drugs, so I'm like trying to sit here and like from my slap.
00:47:27.000 You know, here's the secret.
00:47:28.000 Ian doesn't actually do drugs.
00:47:30.000 No, I'm not accusing you of doing drugs.
00:47:32.000 I'm just thinking, like, my brain can't think in the capacity of the words that you're speaking.
00:47:38.000 It was kind of like Kyle was saying, have you ever had a conversation that twists your mind open and then it doesn't ever go back?
00:47:43.000 Have you ever given birth to a new thought and it's like that ain't ever shrinking back to its original?
00:47:47.000 I didn't use the give birth.
00:47:48.000 It's not my words.
00:47:49.000 The actual origin story is that around 2008, not only did Ian have that conversation, but they grabbed him by the head and just twisted it into a permanent.
00:47:58.000 That was the salvia that did that.
00:48:00.000 Oh, see, exactly.
00:48:01.000 Like, I've never done even that.
00:48:02.000 Yeah, DMT was where I saw the spirits.
00:48:05.000 It was like I was in.
00:48:06.000 We're also in a high frequency.
00:48:07.000 What age were you?
00:48:08.000 Hold on.
00:48:08.000 I think you saw it.
00:48:09.000 Higher frequency.
00:48:10.000 We don't.
00:48:11.000 I would need to do it.
00:48:12.000 What age were you when you first did this?
00:48:13.000 DMT?
00:48:15.000 Like 44, 45.
00:48:17.000 Okay.
00:48:18.000 I had an interesting phone call from my, I have a half brother who's got nine and a half years on me.
00:48:22.000 And he called me when I was like 23 years old.
00:48:25.000 And he goes, hey, man, I was thinking about you.
00:48:26.000 I just want to tell you something.
00:48:27.000 And I go, what?
00:48:28.000 And he goes, your time for psychotropic drugs is over.
00:48:32.000 And I was like, what?
00:48:33.000 And he's like, your window where that would be appropriate for your mind is, it's closed.
00:48:37.000 So you can't do that.
00:48:39.000 And I was like, why were you thinking about that?
00:48:41.000 And why would you think that was something I was interested in?
00:48:43.000 But he shut me down.
00:48:44.000 And so I'm concerned that you might have experienced that outside of your window.
00:48:48.000 And that's it.
00:48:49.000 Let's come back to Earth and talk about reality.
00:48:51.000 We've got this story from Business Insider.
00:48:53.000 Ladies and gentlemen, check it out.
00:48:55.000 T-app that lets women post anonymous dating reviews was hit by a data breach that exposed 72,000 images.
00:49:04.000 So maybe you guys have seen It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, where Dennis finds out there's this app where women rate men and he's got like a really low score.
00:49:11.000 He gets really angry.
00:49:12.000 So he's trying to go around telling women to give him five-star ratings.
00:49:15.000 Well, this is going viral.
00:49:18.000 And this was Kellen's idea, but we're introducing a new app.
00:49:21.000 It's called Horror Finder, where dudes can rate women.
00:49:25.000 They date based on whether they're snooty or DTF.
00:49:28.000 I kept the language a little light on that one.
00:49:30.000 I did.
00:49:31.000 I thoroughly enjoyed when I saw the pictures of all the women that were on T because they were exactly what you would think.
00:49:39.000 They were all incredibly unattractive.
00:49:41.000 I was going to say, give us broad strokes here.
00:49:43.000 Just terrible looking.
00:49:44.000 Artificial hair color.
00:49:45.000 Some of that.
00:49:48.000 Mostly bad skin and had never seen the inside of a gym.
00:49:52.000 Don't exercise.
00:49:53.000 I don't want to say no to cookies.
00:49:53.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:49:54.000 Are you guys familiar with survivorship bias?
00:49:57.000 Yes.
00:49:57.000 No.
00:49:59.000 I feel like I misheard what he said.
00:50:00.000 Survivorship bias.
00:50:02.000 Ship.
00:50:02.000 Gotcha.
00:50:02.000 Survivorship.
00:50:03.000 So a fighter, a World War I fighter plane returns and it's got a bunch of bullet holes in the back section and on the wings.
00:50:12.000 And they go, wow, look at where it took damage.
00:50:15.000 We better reinforce that.
00:50:16.000 You know what they didn't realize?
00:50:18.000 The ones that never came back, that's where.
00:50:20.000 Took damage somewhere else.
00:50:21.000 Exactly.
00:50:21.000 And that's where they needed to reinforce it.
00:50:22.000 And the ones that took damage there, it didn't matter.
00:50:25.000 And so the funny thing about this app is I'm sitting here thinking like, yo, if some woman dates a guy and then he's like, I ain't dating her.
00:50:32.000 So then she gives him a bad review.
00:50:32.000 And he ghosts her.
00:50:34.000 If you go on the T app, ladies, my advice to you is you want the guys with bad reviews.
00:50:41.000 Because these are the guys who didn't string along and were not interested in the women.
00:50:46.000 Right?
00:50:47.000 Why would you want to.
00:50:48.000 Let's just say that that is an interesting tactic that you could take, but maybe not the only answer.
00:50:54.000 Well, sure, sure.
00:50:55.000 But my point is.
00:50:55.000 I'm pretty sure that I read some of these.
00:50:56.000 They're like, the guy was abusive or like the guy with the good reviews is the guy who keeps stringing the women along.
00:51:02.000 I'm tracking.
00:51:03.000 No, I understand.
00:51:04.000 No, it's an interesting concept for sure.
00:51:06.000 The guys that get good reviews, the women aren't going to want to stop dating them.
00:51:11.000 And they're going to be upset when the guy breaks up with them.
00:51:13.000 So why would they give anyone a good review?
00:51:16.000 Yeah.
00:51:18.000 I'm imagining that you don't get like a solid review if you date someone for a few minutes and then you're like, this is me.
00:51:24.000 I'm getting married to this person.
00:51:25.000 No, no, no.
00:51:26.000 It's probably not on the app anymore.
00:51:27.000 Or they might give you the good review is the one the woman dumped.
00:51:31.000 So the women dump a guy and then say, you know, he was really nice.
00:51:31.000 Right.
00:51:36.000 It's just not what I'm looking for.
00:51:37.000 Good review.
00:51:38.000 Then the guy who leaves them, they're like, why is he leaving me?
00:51:40.000 He's such a dick.
00:51:41.000 He's a jerk.
00:51:42.000 So the bad reviews are the guys they really wanted and the good reviews are the guys they didn't.
00:51:46.000 Man, if the quality of your character was relevant of how horrible you've treated people in life, that would be.
00:51:46.000 Yeah.
00:51:55.000 This app is definitely not about how people are treated.
00:51:58.000 It's all about the gossip circle that is being done in cyberspace.
00:52:02.000 It's all about how women don't have real friends.
00:52:04.000 If they had real friends, you wouldn't be on the T app.
00:52:06.000 You would just talk about pole.
00:52:08.000 Or if they had babies.
00:52:09.000 if they have babies, you don't have time to talk about it either because you're busy dealing with your babies.
00:52:13.000 Talking to your baby.
00:52:14.000 There's a lot of misplaced maternal energy in this.
00:52:14.000 Yeah.
00:52:17.000 Sometimes you see it too out there in the world where it's like that thing that you're doing that you are so passionate about, I really wish you were doing it for your child because that's what you're trying to do.
00:52:26.000 And we're a man-only space in here, so I feel very comfortable saying that.
00:52:26.000 Yep.
00:52:29.000 But like, that actually is a woman-loving position because we're recognizing a discomfort and an unhappiness.
00:52:35.000 I see a lot of women out there, and I'm like, God, I just wish you had the thing that you want.
00:52:38.000 Yeah, very good insight.
00:52:39.000 That is a very good insight.
00:52:40.000 And I was coming from a place of like concern.
00:52:43.000 So I want to explain something to you guys.
00:52:46.000 When I go places in public, I'm not trying to humble brag or anything, but I get recognized quite a bit.
00:52:52.000 And so there are some venues I go, the whole staff, I'll go to a restaurant sometimes.
00:52:57.000 And when they bring my food, like, here you go, Tim.
00:52:58.000 And I'm like, oh, they didn't say anything.
00:53:01.000 It's weird.
00:53:01.000 When people come up to me on the street and they're like, hey, man, you know, it's like, it's usually guys.
00:53:06.000 If it's a woman, she's like, my husband's a big fan of yours.
00:53:09.000 And I watch sometimes.
00:53:10.000 That's how women act towards my baby.
00:53:14.000 When my baby, and we're on the street, the women are like, oh my God, it is, I want you to meet your baby.
00:53:14.000 Yeah.
00:53:19.000 It's like having a puppy, except it's better.
00:53:20.000 It's like having like a celebrity.
00:53:23.000 You're getting in the elevator and the women are all like looking over and trying to see the baby and they're like, can I talk to you?
00:53:28.000 They'll talk to the baby before they try to do it.
00:53:30.000 Of course.
00:53:31.000 Like babies are celebrities to women.
00:53:33.000 And what irks me is that feminists have made that phrase an insult.
00:53:38.000 It is in no way derogatory or disrespectful to women to say they love babies.
00:53:42.000 It is magic.
00:53:43.000 But feminists get offended at the notion that men are like, ah, you love babies.
00:53:47.000 Shut up.
00:53:48.000 I've been talking about lending my four-year-old out to my buddy who's my age and single because my son is unbelievably cute.
00:53:56.000 He has this like, I botched his haircut because I'm a terrible haircutter.
00:53:58.000 You shouldn't let your dads cut it, but like, who cares?
00:54:00.000 He's like a little kid.
00:54:01.000 So now it's growing out.
00:54:01.000 So I cut it really badly.
00:54:02.000 So he's got like the surfer flow, right?
00:54:04.000 He's super cute.
00:54:05.000 He has absolutely no boundaries.
00:54:07.000 He'll walk up to the prettiest women in like at a park or like at a restaurant.
00:54:11.000 He'll start talking to them.
00:54:12.000 He'll touch their legs.
00:54:13.000 He'll just hang out there.
00:54:14.000 Like he'll sit on a bench next to them and put his hand on their thigh.
00:54:17.000 Big man.
00:54:17.000 It's unbelievable.
00:54:19.000 And then like, you know, then like my buddy Uncle Carl could run up and be like, hey, what's up, little buddy?
00:54:22.000 Like, what are you doing?
00:54:23.000 I'm so sorry.
00:54:24.000 Is this your son?
00:54:24.000 No, this is my, this is my, my, my buddy's son.
00:54:27.000 I'm so sorry.
00:54:27.000 Babysitting.
00:54:28.000 I'm just being a good uncle.
00:54:29.000 Here I am.
00:54:30.000 I also love kids.
00:54:32.000 I can't wait to have one of my own.
00:54:33.000 It's called Big Daddy.
00:54:35.000 It is a reason why they made rom-coms out of it because kids are, especially very young, like probably five and under.
00:54:42.000 Yeah, women fixate on this thing for a reason.
00:54:44.000 It's like almost like they're a program for that sort of thing.
00:54:46.000 The whole feminist movement killed women, I think.
00:54:49.000 Yes.
00:54:49.000 And femininity.
00:54:50.000 Yeah.
00:54:50.000 I mean, absolutely.
00:54:51.000 Who in their right mind wants to send their wife to work in a nine to five or eight to five or whatever they are now?
00:54:57.000 Not me.
00:54:58.000 Stay at home, raise your family, and let the husband go to work and make money and take care of everything.
00:55:03.000 Fight bears.
00:55:03.000 It's very 195 for it.
00:55:06.000 Yeah, I mean, there is the fact that you fight the bear, you raise the baby.
00:55:09.000 That's the deal.
00:55:10.000 There is the fact that because of the way that the federal government has treated our monetary policy, it's tough for individual men to make enough money to pay for a family and stuff.
00:55:22.000 The incentive is all there for women to work so that way the government can tax them as well.
00:55:27.000 Sure, please.
00:55:28.000 So I'm 46.
00:55:30.000 My first job out of law school, I was making like 35 bucks an hour.
00:55:36.000 I mean, I was just barely making any money.
00:55:38.000 Even in Mississippi, that's not enough to live on.
00:55:40.000 But we sold my truck that I had, went down to one car because couldn't afford to have two.
00:55:46.000 My wife still stayed at home and, you know, took care of the house.
00:55:50.000 She was a newly, we were newlyweds, right?
00:55:53.000 So people can make, you know, make a go at it with less.
00:55:57.000 It's just that they don't want to.
00:55:59.000 They want a brand new iPhone and they want nice cars.
00:56:01.000 Like I drive a 2012 Accord with 250,000 miles on it, but you know, I don't have a car payment.
00:56:07.000 I don't have a car payment.
00:56:08.000 So like if I wanted to go buy a new car, I could go buy it, but then I have to pay every month for something.
00:56:13.000 And then I might have to say, hey, baby, I didn't make enough money this month because of Kyle, right?
00:56:19.000 Because of me, probably.
00:56:20.000 I'm not sure how I got blamed, but I'm for it.
00:56:22.000 I'll take the blame.
00:56:23.000 For some reason.
00:56:23.000 I'm happy to.
00:56:24.000 But, you know, and then she'd have to go get a job and go to work.
00:56:24.000 Of course.
00:56:27.000 But people do not want to hear it when you say go down to one car.
00:56:31.000 And I had my wife take me to work a lot of times as a lawyer after we had my daughter because we couldn't afford a second car at that point.
00:56:39.000 And it was so important for me to have my wife stay home with my kid, teach her stuff.
00:56:44.000 I mean, dude, my daughter is 13 years old and speaks Japanese, Arabic, and is taking Mandarin right now.
00:56:51.000 And she started her.
00:56:53.000 It's unbelievable.
00:56:55.000 Homeschool your kids?
00:56:56.000 F yeah.
00:56:57.000 F yeah.
00:56:57.000 Yeah.
00:56:58.000 I don't know.
00:56:58.000 Awesome.
00:56:59.000 Can I say the F word on you?
00:57:00.000 No, just leave it off.
00:57:01.000 I was turned around.
00:57:02.000 Well, if the kids are watching, you probably don't want to.
00:57:04.000 Yeah, it's good enough.
00:57:05.000 So I mean.
00:57:06.000 Consider what he's saying, though.
00:57:07.000 You take agency from people when you say the monetary system is set up.
00:57:10.000 Like, let people be responsible for their decisions.
00:57:12.000 That's the thing that I think is the most lacking.
00:57:14.000 That's the most conservative thing you can do is turn around and go, I've made a choice.
00:57:18.000 And the choice is that I am dealing with those.
00:57:20.000 And look, the consequences of it is exactly what Stephen just said.
00:57:23.000 Like, you have less money.
00:57:24.000 You have less things.
00:57:25.000 You may have to tighten your belt on it.
00:57:27.000 Probably everybody here has gone through a short period where you're like, I'm not sure how this is going to work.
00:57:33.000 And you try to build up that cushion.
00:57:34.000 That's your job, I think, as a man.
00:57:36.000 To say that you are like incentivized, yes, but that doesn't mean it's not something you can't overcome.
00:57:42.000 Wouldn't you give it all up for your kids?
00:57:44.000 Oh, that's the other thing.
00:57:45.000 Men are supposed to be able to do that.
00:57:46.000 And it's crazy that we have this culture of just like me first in the gimme-gimmies.
00:57:51.000 You know what I mean?
00:57:52.000 Good man crazier.
00:57:53.000 Elizabeth Warren used to agree with this position that we're having right now.
00:57:56.000 Yeah, she used to be a conservative.
00:57:56.000 Do you know that?
00:57:58.000 I don't know that she's conservative.
00:57:59.000 She was just a reasonable person.
00:58:01.000 She should know better.
00:58:02.000 She should know better because she used to teach economics, if I understand correctly.
00:58:06.000 She used to teach economics.
00:58:07.000 In a TP.
00:58:08.000 In a TP.
00:58:09.000 Right.
00:58:09.000 With the powder.
00:58:10.000 Fair enough.
00:58:11.000 She wrote a book that's called The Two Income Trap, and I think it's co-authored by her daughter.
00:58:15.000 This is from 2002.
00:58:16.000 Wow.
00:58:17.000 I think that's the year.
00:58:18.000 My mother-in-law actually gave me a copy of it.
00:58:19.000 And you don't have to read the whole book.
00:58:20.000 You can just read the back and know what it is.
00:58:22.000 But essentially, when you have two incomes in the household, so Phil, this actually goes to the structural piece you're talking about.
00:58:26.000 When you have two incomes, everything that has to do with children, Which we were talking about a second ago, gets more expensive.
00:58:32.000 You're in an arms race with everyone that has two incomes.
00:58:35.000 So if I'm a one-income, now I'm competing against two for childcare, for public or private schooling, for the select soccer team, for minivans, for housing that's bigger.
00:58:45.000 So all those things become more expensive.
00:58:48.000 And it drives wages down.
00:58:49.000 Of course.
00:58:50.000 Because now you have twice as many people in the competition.
00:58:52.000 Here's the last thing that she actually made, which is a really brilliant point.
00:58:52.000 Yep.
00:58:55.000 When you had single-income households, and I actually think she's right about this, which is weird for me to say because she's Elizabeth Warren.
00:59:01.000 But when you had single-income households, if the man, the primary income actually failed at some point, the woman could actually pick up the slack and get a temporary job with the skill set that she possessed and actually be a bridge.
00:59:13.000 Or she could currently be working in a cottage industry and putting stuff away as long as you lived off the one salary.
00:59:18.000 We got real lazy in this society.
00:59:19.000 It's happened basically most of my lifetime where we wanted to see both of those salaries go into luxury items and a bunch of like conveniences.
00:59:26.000 And now everyone acts like you can't do without a bunch of stuff.
00:59:28.000 Like you actually could do without Netflix and you probably could do without Uber Eats.
00:59:32.000 You don't have to have to eat out every night.
00:59:34.000 It's way cheaper.
00:59:35.000 I haven't eaten out in probably, I don't know, the last time I traveled, I don't even remember.
00:59:38.000 You haven't eaten in a while too.
00:59:39.000 I know.
00:59:39.000 I've lost a lot of weight.
00:59:41.000 So yeah.
00:59:43.000 I noticed that with fast food.
00:59:44.000 In like 2006 or 7, I saw all the people that were unwilling to stop because of the expense.
00:59:50.000 It was like same amount of food for like 30 or 40% more.
00:59:54.000 It's way worse than that now, I think, too.
00:59:56.000 There's a lot of interesting decisions that get made.
00:59:59.000 Here's where it gets crazy.
00:59:59.000 I'm seeing it.
01:00:00.000 Let's do this.
01:00:01.000 Let's jump to the story.
01:00:01.000 We have this story from CBS News.
01:00:04.000 U.S. birth rate hits all-time low, according to the CDC.
01:00:09.000 This is a cascade effect that is going to compound.
01:00:13.000 And so in the previous segment, we were talking about how double-income households is a trap.
01:00:17.000 Shout out to Elizabeth Warren, of all people who had been talking about this 20 years ago.
01:00:22.000 But it basically drives wages down, increased costs.
01:00:25.000 There's a compounding effect to a declining birth rate that makes birth rates get lower and lower.
01:00:30.000 And that is, here's a simple explanation.
01:00:33.000 Why are there no more McDonald's playplaces?
01:00:36.000 Because people don't have kids.
01:00:38.000 So McDonald says the amount of money it costs to make a play place is greater than what we will return.
01:00:43.000 Stop doing it.
01:00:44.000 Now for the people who have kids, they're going, well, we can no longer go there because we used to go there and the kids would be entertained while we ordered food.
01:00:50.000 kind of good to a certain extent.
01:00:52.000 But more importantly, the bigger example is...
01:00:56.000 It's becoming more and more expensive for baby items, for baby clothes, for high chairs, for rubber baby buggy bumpers, because the less people who have kids.
01:01:07.000 Got to do it in an Arnold voice.
01:01:08.000 Rubble.
01:01:09.000 Rubble, baby, bubble, bubble.
01:01:09.000 I can't.
01:01:12.000 I can't do it.
01:01:14.000 So what happens is the less people that are buying it, the less volume is sold.
01:01:19.000 And so the manufacturers increase cost to make up for a loss in volume, meaning that it's becoming exponentially more expensive to buy the items your child needs, which is a prohibitive factor.
01:01:31.000 So young people say, I can't afford what child needs, so I can't have kids.
01:01:35.000 Well, then if I don't have kids, there's no demand for the products.
01:01:37.000 So it gets more expensive.
01:01:38.000 The only way to cheat code that is to keep the stuff and have more kids, and they all use it, which is my tactic.
01:01:45.000 I've got that.
01:01:46.000 But even in that regard, what's happening now is people, young, so I was talking about, we've been talking about how Gen Z aren't having kids.
01:01:55.000 We've been talking about how there's no 18-year-olds right now.
01:01:58.000 So universities are collapsing.
01:02:00.000 There's a university in Utah that was like 218 years old, went out of business because there's no 18-year-olds to enroll.
01:02:05.000 I love that, by the way.
01:02:06.000 And the reporting was that when the economic crisis happened, nobody was having children.
01:02:11.000 So they said in 2008, 18 years from now, there will be a shortage of young people entering the workforce.
01:02:17.000 Interesting.
01:02:17.000 I never heard that, but I was one of those young people that was supposed to be starting my family.
01:02:23.000 So now that I'm reading this news, being like, wow, isn't it funny that there are no 18-year-olds?
01:02:26.000 Like, oh, it's because I didn't have one.
01:02:28.000 Why didn't I have one?
01:02:29.000 I was homeless.
01:02:30.000 I was 22, 23, and I was sleeping on couches or park benches, and there were no jobs.
01:02:35.000 And I started playing guitar in the subway to make whatever money I could.
01:02:38.000 There's no way I was having a family.
01:02:39.000 Was this 2008?
01:02:41.000 Yeah.
01:02:41.000 Yeah.
01:02:41.000 That's when I graduated law school in 2007 and got out right as the market crashed and was just screwed.
01:02:46.000 So I remember going to a diner.
01:02:49.000 I saw a job at on Craigslist for a dishwasher.
01:02:51.000 And I walked in and the guy in front of me was wearing a suit with a briefcase.
01:02:54.000 And I heard him hand, as I was waiting to talk to the person at the counter, he hands a resume and he goes, I'm here about the dishwasher position.
01:03:01.000 And then I turned around and walked out.
01:03:03.000 And I was like, holy crap.
01:03:04.000 Although I was told later that was stupid because they probably would rather hire me than a guy in a suit.
01:03:08.000 So here's the thing.
01:03:08.000 My buddy Steve Friend is in this position right now.
01:03:10.000 He got kicked out of the bureau.
01:03:11.000 He's looking around for a job.
01:03:13.000 He goes and it's like, he's a former cop.
01:03:15.000 He's a Notre Dame graduate.
01:03:16.000 He worked as an FBI agent for almost 10 years.
01:03:18.000 He had a top secret clearance.
01:03:20.000 He goes and you hand that into like a security position.
01:03:22.000 They're not going to hire you for that.
01:03:22.000 Like they're not going to hire you to do security.
01:03:24.000 They're not going to hire you to manage some, like a grocery store or something.
01:03:27.000 They're going to be like, dude, you were a freaking FBI agent for a decade.
01:03:30.000 Like you're going to leave this.
01:03:31.000 So they won't hire you.
01:03:32.000 They won't hire the guy with the briefcase to do dishwashing.
01:03:33.000 I wouldn't.
01:03:34.000 You know what the problem is with, you know why the birthright's declining?
01:03:37.000 Women.
01:03:39.000 Yeah.
01:03:39.000 Well, feminism.
01:03:40.000 Feminism.
01:03:41.000 But women could decide at any moment to tell men, you ain't getting none.
01:03:47.000 Like, I want marriage and I want a family.
01:03:49.000 But I'm being somewhat.
01:03:51.000 I know.
01:03:51.000 We could go upstream with that and say the dads need to be teaching that too.
01:03:53.000 So I'll say that.
01:03:55.000 I'm being intentionally inflammatory.
01:03:57.000 But it is feminism.
01:03:58.000 It is.
01:03:58.000 This idea that women can be promiscuous.
01:04:02.000 There was this article in the New York Times called The Trouble with Wanting Men.
01:04:05.000 And it starts with a writer for the New York Times being like, I went on a date with a guy.
01:04:09.000 And then she goes on to describe the date.
01:04:11.000 Then they went back to his place, had sex.
01:04:12.000 And then a week later, he says, I'm not interested.
01:04:14.000 And she's like, men are awful.
01:04:16.000 And I'm like, or he's thinking, look, I want to find a wife.
01:04:18.000 And you ain't it.
01:04:20.000 You know what I mean?
01:04:20.000 You a hoe.
01:04:21.000 There's this viral video that went out this week.
01:04:24.000 It's a pretty white lady.
01:04:24.000 You probably saw it.
01:04:26.000 She's talking about being 32 years old.
01:04:27.000 She's been married for a decade.
01:04:29.000 She's got nothing wrong with her life, but she doesn't know who she is and she hasn't been able to find herself.
01:04:32.000 And so she wants to leave her husband.
01:04:33.000 And so he just mapped it out.
01:04:34.000 You want to play it?
01:04:35.000 Yeah, here we go.
01:04:36.000 It's so unsettling.
01:04:37.000 I told my husband I wanted a divorce.
01:04:38.000 I walked myself through the logistics of where would I live?
01:04:41.000 How would we split the time with the kids?
01:04:43.000 Who gets the dog?
01:04:44.000 I feel like I have been searching for something in my relationship that we don't have for the whole time we've been married, which has been 10 years.
01:04:52.000 There is not a single thing about my husband in and of himself that I do not love.
01:04:58.000 He is the most self-disciplined, loyal, hardworking, good person that you could meet on this planet.
01:05:06.000 Our relationship and what my expectations are for my marriage and what they always have been are not met.
01:05:14.000 I can't be myself with my husband.
01:05:17.000 And it's really confusing because I'm 32 years old.
01:05:20.000 I am a mom of three and I still don't know who I am.
01:05:25.000 I told my husband I wanted a divorce.
01:05:27.000 Here's the worst thing in all of that.
01:05:28.000 She says, I can't be myself around my husband, and I actually don't know who that person is.
01:05:33.000 Not one thing that I hear was, I have three children.
01:05:37.000 I have an obligation to provide them a stable home, and that those people are the most important thing, that my entire biological purpose is geared towards rearing them and making them successful humans.
01:05:47.000 How about you never said it?
01:05:48.000 How about this bait?
01:05:50.000 Tell me why.
01:05:51.000 Every day I go out looking adorable, tits bouncing, skin glistening, and yet nobody ever hits on me or approaches me.
01:06:03.000 Ever.
01:06:04.000 Feminism?
01:06:05.000 It's the red hair.
01:06:05.000 I was going to say.
01:06:06.000 Please.
01:06:07.000 It's feminism.
01:06:07.000 She looks crazy.
01:06:10.000 You know what's funny?
01:06:11.000 Remember 10 years ago when a woman couldn't walk down the street in New York without getting cat called?
01:06:14.000 Right.
01:06:15.000 Well, they turned that off.
01:06:16.000 They said, guys, stop.
01:06:17.000 I tweeted about this today.
01:06:18.000 Women will ask for something and then they will be miserable when they get it.
01:06:23.000 It's like you're dealing with children.
01:06:25.000 Honestly.
01:06:26.000 It really is.
01:06:27.000 So that's why they said women and children first.
01:06:29.000 That's right.
01:06:31.000 Because if you tried to, if the men got out of there, the women and children would all die, obviously.
01:06:36.000 I mean, if you had a generation.
01:06:36.000 But it's true.
01:06:40.000 We're all getting canceled for this.
01:06:42.000 I've been canceled so many times.
01:06:44.000 You had a generation of women that were just complaining about men all the time, saying men are so terrible.
01:06:50.000 And you still hear them complain about it.
01:06:52.000 And so men have said, well, okay, then I don't want to talk to you.
01:06:56.000 Then I'm not going to go hang out with you.
01:06:58.000 I don't want to, you know, it's like you've got tattoos.
01:07:00.000 You're probably a progressive woman.
01:07:01.000 I don't want to talk to you.
01:07:04.000 You hang out in these areas.
01:07:05.000 You're probably this kind of woman.
01:07:06.000 I don't want to talk to you.
01:07:07.000 What are you talking about?
01:07:07.000 Like, look at the things that she thinks that made her desirable.
01:07:10.000 Yeah.
01:07:11.000 Which takes bouncing.
01:07:12.000 Right.
01:07:12.000 She's like, oh, look, you see me as a sexual object.
01:07:15.000 Here I am, a sexual object.
01:07:17.000 And none of it was like, I'm a really nice person.
01:07:19.000 I'm super fun to hang out with.
01:07:20.000 Like, I'm really loyal.
01:07:21.000 It's probably not.
01:07:24.000 I want to stress this point.
01:07:26.000 I do believe there's a factor in younger guys that are moving to the right.
01:07:30.000 And they look at a woman like this and they think, she's liberal.
01:07:33.000 I can't have a family with her.
01:07:34.000 She's probably a feminist.
01:07:36.000 And she looks like she's promiscuous.
01:07:38.000 I want a woman who's going to be loyal, faithful, and not just sexually liberal.
01:07:42.000 I mean, quitter attitude, though, to be fair.
01:07:43.000 That's a quitter attitude.
01:07:44.000 There was a long time where I was, you know, I was single.
01:07:47.000 I didn't date anyone.
01:07:48.000 And I was probably single for like two or three years because I didn't meet a woman that was the type of woman that I wanted to date.
01:07:56.000 Right.
01:07:57.000 And it's like some dudes are just like, well, I'll go ahead and date whoever.
01:08:01.000 But those dudes are becoming fewer and fewer.
01:08:04.000 And I met my girlfriend last year and we're super happy and she's great, but she wants to be a stay-at-home mom and she doesn't consider herself a feminist and she's not a progressive.
01:08:15.000 And so she checked all the boxes that I was looking for.
01:08:17.000 There's more and more liability too, probably going out there.
01:08:20.000 If you're just going to be jumping from relationship to relationship or fling to fling in an internet world, in a world of you're immediately assumed to be the aggressor and all kinds of the sort of default positions against you.
01:08:33.000 That sounds like I absolutely have so much pity for young men right now that are in this thing and young women too, because they're going to have terrible affluence.
01:08:41.000 Look, I've got three daughters and one son.
01:08:44.000 So I can see both of them growing up.
01:08:46.000 And I look around at what's out there when we go to our community pool, when we walk through the grocery store, and I'm like, God bless it.
01:08:53.000 Go to church.
01:08:54.000 You want to go see some wholesome looking people?
01:08:55.000 Go to a freaking traditional Latin Mass.
01:08:58.000 We went and started doing that down at the cathedral in downtown Austin.
01:09:01.000 And you're going to see a totally different caliber of human being.
01:09:04.000 They may not always be the most attractive, but the other thing is this, and you tell me this, because this is going to be in your world pretty soon.
01:09:10.000 How many of you guys actually remember being taught what the purpose of dating was?
01:09:15.000 Or did you figure it out as an adult?
01:09:17.000 But what do you mean the purpose of dating?
01:09:19.000 What is the checklist that you were, what are you trying to accomplish?
01:09:22.000 Like, what are you looking for?
01:09:23.000 And how do you assess whether that thing is a win or not?
01:09:25.000 It's not a T-app, but how do you know, like, what am I looking for for compatibility?
01:09:29.000 Am I looking for attractiveness?
01:09:31.000 There's an important point in this in that dating, when I was growing up and I would watch these movies, going steady, dating meant you could be dating 10 guys.
01:09:42.000 Correct?
01:09:43.000 They would come to your house, you'd go see a movie, and then you'd watch the movie, share popcorn, and he'd be a gentleman and walk you back to your door.
01:09:49.000 The next day, you'd go on a date with a different guy.
01:09:51.000 Then once you figured out that you really liked one of those guys, the woman would go steady.
01:09:56.000 And that would be the Letterman jacket involved in that, maybe.
01:09:59.000 And they'd be like, wow, you're going steady?
01:10:01.000 Meaning you're no longer dating.
01:10:03.000 You're now in a, you're going steady.
01:10:05.000 And that's moving towards proposal, then engagement, and then marriage by 20 years old.
01:10:11.000 That was one of the conversations that I had with Sarah.
01:10:14.000 I was like, look, you know, if I'm going to date someone, I'm dating with intent.
01:10:18.000 The intent is to have a family, to get married, and those kind of things.
01:10:22.000 If that's not something you're into, I'm not the guy for you.
01:10:25.000 And that was a conversation.
01:10:27.000 And before we were even really dating, but you figured that out as an adult.
01:10:32.000 And my point to you is that I don't think that we're teaching young men.
01:10:32.000 Yeah.
01:10:35.000 I don't think we're teaching young women as a society that there is actually a reason for that.
01:10:39.000 Who is teaching young men?
01:10:41.000 Right.
01:10:41.000 Well, women.
01:10:42.000 And what is that?
01:10:44.000 Because they're saying what they want.
01:10:45.000 Single women, single mothers, and female teachers are teaching young men.
01:10:50.000 And this is a meme now, but if there's a problem with young men, it is because of women.
01:10:54.000 And wait, there's more.
01:10:56.000 Most journalists are female.
01:10:58.000 And most female journalists are single, unmarried, and living in New York.
01:10:58.000 That's true.
01:11:02.000 100%.
01:11:03.000 Yeah, like I'm 24, and I started seriously dating recently.
01:11:07.000 I have no idea what I'm doing.
01:11:08.000 Go to church.
01:11:09.000 But listen.
01:11:10.000 I go to church every week.
01:11:12.000 That's a very salient question.
01:11:14.000 What if churches all do?
01:11:15.000 Did you just say?
01:11:16.000 Yeah, it's bad, dude.
01:11:17.000 So one woman walks in and they all tackle her.
01:11:20.000 Basically, yeah.
01:11:21.000 But you also have to, yeah, so it's go to church as a place to meet people, right?
01:11:24.000 It used to be friend groups.
01:11:25.000 That's how you meet people.
01:11:25.000 That's how I met my wife was through friends.
01:11:27.000 But having a rubric to actually evaluate.
01:11:29.000 So, okay, you Say, I want a family, but what does that look like?
01:11:31.000 It's like we have to share values, we have to share a view of the future, and we have to be willing to like make that other person's view of the future our own.
01:11:40.000 If you're not into that, if you don't have those things going, if you can't assess those things, then you don't even know what you're asking.
01:11:45.000 You're going out there, and like I said, like, I'll remember, I was a kid in the 80s.
01:11:49.000 Your girlfriend was like the prettiest girl that would willingly spend time with you.
01:11:52.000 That's what a girlfriend was about.
01:11:53.000 Am I wrong?
01:11:54.000 It was like, who's pretty?
01:11:56.000 Is someone prettier than that person?
01:11:58.000 Like, that's not a good criteria when it comes to matching and having a financial future and having a family and raising children in a view.
01:12:06.000 And the problem right now is it used to be throughout all of human history that a young boy and young girl grew up in the same place or similar place.
01:12:16.000 They had very similar jobs.
01:12:18.000 A guy meets a woman.
01:12:19.000 What do you do?
01:12:19.000 I work with my mom and take care of the farm animals.
01:12:21.000 I churn the butter.
01:12:22.000 Oh, my mom did that.
01:12:23.000 My sister does that.
01:12:24.000 That's what I'm looking for.
01:12:25.000 What do you do?
01:12:26.000 I chop lumber.
01:12:27.000 I chop wood and start fires and go hunting.
01:12:29.000 It's like, that's what my dad did.
01:12:30.000 My brothers do.
01:12:31.000 I'm looking for that.
01:12:32.000 Now, a dude from New York who is an accountant and went to school hoping to be a lawyer, but never finished and just fizzled out.
01:12:39.000 Feels very specific.
01:12:40.000 Meets a woman who is from California, who used to surf all the time.
01:12:44.000 And they're like, maybe this will work.
01:12:45.000 And it's like, dude, you guys could not be more different.
01:12:48.000 But if you had, so yeah, you know, the backstory is part of it.
01:12:51.000 But again, if they shared the same values, if they shared the same sort of view of the future, then that maybe works.
01:12:55.000 But if they don't have that, if she comes from a different type of family that doesn't actually see that as a value, or maybe he doesn't know that's what he wants or any of the, we're not training our children.
01:13:04.000 And I think.
01:13:04.000 But I'm describing urban society because if you live in a rural area, you are still more likely to have a similar life to the average human.
01:13:12.000 You live in a rural area, probably got backyard chickens, probably still taking care of animals, probably still chopping wood, probably still going to church.
01:13:18.000 You live in these cities and you could live one block away from someone and you're a metalhead who works at an accounting firm and you meet a chick who is a, you know, she's a teacher who studied feminist dance and you're like, I went on a date.
01:13:32.000 I met a chick on Tinder.
01:13:33.000 She was pretty, but holy crap, did we not get along?
01:13:36.000 Right.
01:13:36.000 Now, if you live in West Virginia, you're going to have a lot of similarities in the places you go, the things you see and the traditional values.
01:13:46.000 This is one of the biggest barriers, I think, to young people right now getting married is how different everyone's become because of the internet, largely.
01:13:53.000 I think that living in cities is probably one of the, like everyone tends to go do that when they're younger.
01:13:58.000 They think that's where the action is, so they go.
01:14:00.000 But I've got a sister who's just a couple of years younger than me.
01:14:02.000 She's single.
01:14:03.000 She lives in New York City.
01:14:04.000 She makes really good money.
01:14:05.000 She thinks that's really important.
01:14:07.000 And I was trying to, at one point, I tried to give her this like advice, which, you know, good big brother advice goes.
01:14:11.000 But I was like, dude, go down to the bar where the firefighters hang out.
01:14:15.000 Ask one of them, are one of your friends single?
01:14:18.000 And can I take him on a date?
01:14:20.000 Like, go meet a man who's masculine.
01:14:22.000 Because what you described too is a testosterone differential, too, because testosterone is necessary for certain things.
01:14:27.000 And it certainly goes away in a lot of the urban core.
01:14:30.000 It doesn't mean there's not dudes that are not masculine, but at the end of the day, it's such a, it's, I can't go into a city anymore and look around and go like, oh yeah, this is good.
01:14:38.000 I look around and I see threats to my babies.
01:14:40.000 I mean, that's what I see.
01:14:41.000 I'm like, I might have to kill that crackhead.
01:14:43.000 I may have to go and fight this dude.
01:14:44.000 Like, I don't know what's happening here.
01:14:46.000 I don't understand like all the dynamics of it.
01:14:48.000 There's people driving recklessly.
01:14:49.000 There's people that are drinking in the middle of the day.
01:14:51.000 Oh, my God.
01:14:51.000 Explain it to Ian.
01:14:52.000 He sees a health bar and a level number and sometimes a skull next to everyone's heads.
01:14:59.000 And I have a bunch of them that I'm responsible for.
01:15:00.000 Yep.
01:15:01.000 And those are green, and the bad guys are red.
01:15:03.000 Potentially.
01:15:03.000 Yeah.
01:15:04.000 He sees green bars over.
01:15:07.000 Yeah, safe zones to go there.
01:15:09.000 Oh, safe zones are outlined.
01:15:10.000 Like threat zones.
01:15:10.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:15:11.000 Do you see threat zones?
01:15:12.000 Yeah, and here's the thing.
01:15:13.000 I want to get there.
01:15:13.000 I drive a big old truck right now, which I'm pretty thrilled about.
01:15:16.000 And my wife and I were talking about our minivan.
01:15:17.000 And I was like, do you want like an A-team van with a huge pushbar in front of it?
01:15:21.000 Because that's what I think is safe.
01:15:22.000 I'll catch you.
01:15:23.000 Yeah.
01:15:23.000 I want to throw people out of the way.
01:15:26.000 Have you seen the, there's that meme where it's like what a man is thinking walking through a mall with his girlfriend.
01:15:31.000 And he's like, I got an exit behind me.
01:15:34.000 I got two exits in front of me.
01:15:35.000 That man in front of me looks like he might be reaching for something.
01:15:35.000 There's stairs to my left.
01:15:37.000 And then it shows the wind.
01:15:38.000 She goes, There's another one where they played Gwen Stefani.
01:15:44.000 I'm just a girl in the world.
01:15:46.000 It's the same sort of attitude, though.
01:15:48.000 They want to have to think about it.
01:15:49.000 They want to rely on you.
01:15:50.000 Listen, I was.
01:15:50.000 That's fine because that's what, if you sign up for them, that's what you want.
01:15:54.000 That's what my dad would do because he was a Marine and a firefighter.
01:15:57.000 Whenever we'd go somewhere, he'd be like, where are your exits?
01:15:59.000 And then I'd look around and he'd be like, always know your exits are.
01:16:01.000 It's just teaching you situational awareness, which is what young men need to do.
01:16:04.000 And then here's the other thing, which is something I've been teaching my kiddos.
01:16:07.000 It's like when I say we're moving, we're leaving.
01:16:10.000 If I tell my wife that, you cannot freeze.
01:16:12.000 You got to go.
01:16:13.000 You don't have to know what happens next.
01:16:14.000 You have to be able to go with me if I tell you there's danger.
01:16:16.000 We're leaving.
01:16:17.000 I was in Athens with my wife and daughter, and we were living in Athens for a little bit, and we were walking through like the square, right?
01:16:24.000 Athens people protest all the time, Athens, Greece.
01:16:27.000 They protest nonstop.
01:16:29.000 And so all of a sudden we see these incoming rounds of like tear gas hitting and exploding and everything's going on.
01:16:34.000 And I pick my daughter up and start carrying her away.
01:16:37.000 What does my wife do?
01:16:38.000 She gets out her cell phone, starts recording.
01:16:41.000 She stands right here and just like is filming.
01:16:44.000 I've got the video, dude.
01:16:45.000 I'll have to share it with you.
01:16:46.000 I'm like, what are you doing?
01:16:47.000 Like, that's terrifying.
01:16:49.000 Let's go.
01:16:49.000 Let's go.
01:16:50.000 How many people have just completely lost survival instincts, though?
01:16:53.000 They go straight to the phone.
01:16:53.000 And that's where they go.
01:16:55.000 They walk around.
01:16:56.000 I watched somebody get run over by a freaking earth mover the other day.
01:16:58.000 Did you see this in like New York City?
01:17:00.000 Like, she got thumped by the by the bucket and then she got run over because she was looking at a text message.
01:17:06.000 Like it can't be that important when you're doing it.
01:17:07.000 Walking while she was doing it.
01:17:08.000 Yeah, dude.
01:17:09.000 Stand still while you're looking at your phone in the city.
01:17:11.000 Find a thing and put your back to it.
01:17:14.000 Back against the wall.
01:17:15.000 Stand still.
01:17:16.000 It's such an unnatural and illogical thing for human beings to do in a high threat environment where there's like other people, there's moving objects, there's all this other, like all these things could happen.
01:17:23.000 There's holes, there's manholes that are not well secured, and you're just going to walk around and put your face into this thing.
01:17:29.000 My nightmare is when I don't know where I'm going in an urban area and I have to look at my phone for like directions.
01:17:33.000 It's GPSing me.
01:17:34.000 And I'm like, oh, God, I hate breaking focus and looking down at that thing because I'm literally all entrenched against the building to do it.
01:17:40.000 And like down and up like I'm driving the threats.
01:17:43.000 There's potential threats coming at me.
01:17:45.000 We just bought a bunch of those anti-choke devices for babies.
01:17:49.000 Explain what that is.
01:17:50.000 It's a mask you put over the baby.
01:17:50.000 I don't know.
01:17:51.000 You squeeze it and put over and then like you, when you squeeze it, it sucks.
01:17:55.000 So if the baby's choking, something's a suction device.
01:17:57.000 Yeah, because baby is at the point where she's just jamming anything she can find in her mouth.
01:18:02.000 The best.
01:18:02.000 Yeah.
01:18:03.000 I still remember how a lot of strange both hands.
01:18:08.000 Especially when you like look over and you're like, you're like, oh, okay, it's good.
01:18:11.000 And then you look over and it's like your child is ingesting like a quarter for some reason.
01:18:15.000 Yeah.
01:18:16.000 And you're thinking, like, what would make you do that?
01:18:18.000 I've literally told my kids, you know, I've watched a couple of them go through that phase.
01:18:21.000 And it's like, hey, take that out of your mouth.
01:18:24.000 And they're like, got it.
01:18:25.000 You mean permanently?
01:18:26.000 Because I'm about to go eat it right now again as soon as you walk away.
01:18:28.000 Permanently?
01:18:29.000 You should have taken that from me.
01:18:30.000 You knew better.
01:18:31.000 Yes.
01:18:31.000 That's your fault, Dad.
01:18:34.000 That's funny.
01:18:35.000 But yeah, I mean, the babies just shove stuff in their mouths.
01:18:38.000 That's what they do.
01:18:38.000 That's what babies did.
01:18:39.000 Like, baby proofing is serious business.
01:18:42.000 I had a sibling, and I can't remember which one it was.
01:18:45.000 This is the 80s thing.
01:18:46.000 We used to put out snail pellets in California.
01:18:48.000 What?
01:18:48.000 Snail pellets are these like compressed things.
01:18:50.000 They look like the food that you'd give to like goats, right?
01:18:52.000 So they're like a little pill-shaped thing.
01:18:54.000 And for some reason, they kill snails.
01:18:55.000 I don't exactly know how they work.
01:18:56.000 It's magic.
01:18:57.000 They just throw them out there and then the snails would not eat like your roses or whatever.
01:18:57.000 Yeah.
01:19:01.000 And I remember coming out and one of my parents lost their minds because one of my little siblings, one of my little brothers, was like walking through and he was just eating the snail pellets, just pulling them right out of the rose planter.
01:19:10.000 And you're looking over and they're just eating, you know, maybe it was just salt.
01:19:13.000 Maybe it wasn't toxic.
01:19:14.000 Or maybe it was really toxic and that's why they're like that.
01:19:16.000 So it is metaldehyde.
01:19:16.000 He's a lawyer now.
01:19:20.000 Is that what it is?
01:19:21.000 You're looking it up.
01:19:22.000 Highly toxic.
01:19:24.000 Iron phosphate.
01:19:26.000 It couldn't have tasted good either.
01:19:28.000 If it's iron phosphate, it's safer for pets in the environment.
01:19:31.000 They were red, so probably iron phosphate sounds good.
01:19:31.000 Okay.
01:19:34.000 That makes sense.
01:19:35.000 Yeah.
01:19:35.000 Still not great.
01:19:36.000 Probably not the thing you should be eating.
01:19:38.000 It's like the same thing as looking down and seeing kids like eating.
01:19:41.000 We had a little brother maybe of one of my buddies that was eating rabbit pellets, you know, like turds.
01:19:47.000 Gross.
01:19:48.000 And he thought they were chocolates.
01:19:49.000 He just saw them on the ground.
01:19:50.000 They look a lot like chocolates.
01:19:51.000 He couldn't tell by the taste.
01:19:53.000 He was like a two-year-old.
01:19:54.000 He was in that phase where he just eats dinner.
01:19:55.000 You do know that rabbits actually have two different types of things that come out of their butts.
01:20:00.000 I did not know this.
01:20:01.000 One is actually food for the rabbit and one is waste.
01:20:05.000 Because rabbits eat grass and grass is hard to digest.
01:20:08.000 So I know this because we had a couple pet rabbits.
01:20:08.000 Sure.
01:20:11.000 They eat the grass and then it goes to their system.
01:20:14.000 They crap it out and it is still grass.
01:20:15.000 They turn around and eat it.
01:20:16.000 Got it.
01:20:17.000 It's like a second pass through the metabolism.
01:20:18.000 Yep.
01:20:19.000 Phil told me he gets to tend the rabbits.
01:20:20.000 Is that sure?
01:20:21.000 You get to tend the rabbits?
01:20:21.000 Pardon me?
01:20:22.000 I told you no such thing.
01:20:23.000 You said you get to tend the rabbits.
01:20:25.000 Never said that.
01:20:25.000 He's like, nothing like that at all.
01:20:28.000 I don't know why you're trying to throw me under the bus.
01:20:30.000 I'm just giving you a mice and men reference.
01:20:31.000 I was thought you were the one who was.
01:20:33.000 It's called cecotrope.
01:20:33.000 Mice and men?
01:20:35.000 It's soft, nutrient-rich droppings they produce from their cecum.
01:20:38.000 You get to tend the rabbits.
01:20:40.000 They're small, shiny clusters like grapes.
01:20:42.000 Yeah, they are shiny.
01:20:44.000 And they eat it directly out of their anus.
01:20:46.000 The shiny ones are the eaten.
01:20:47.000 They go right for it.
01:20:48.000 Yeah.
01:20:48.000 The shiny ones you can eat.
01:20:50.000 It says rabbits eat psychotropes directly from their anus, usually at night or early morning.
01:20:54.000 I often put it in the comments if they've eaten them.
01:20:56.000 It's called coprophagy.
01:20:59.000 Coprophagy.
01:21:00.000 Coprophagy.
01:21:01.000 That's the act of eating it out of the anus.
01:21:03.000 They re-digest the nutrients and B vitamins and aminos that weren't absorbed the first time.
01:21:06.000 That's the act of eating poop.
01:21:08.000 Oh, what's it called?
01:21:10.000 The active eating poop.
01:21:11.000 Now I've got to memorize it.
01:21:12.000 I'm really upset with you for now.
01:21:13.000 Coprophagy.
01:21:14.000 Coprophagy.
01:21:15.000 It's clumsy for the word.
01:21:17.000 Coprophagy.
01:21:18.000 Corada.
01:21:18.000 Corrada.
01:21:20.000 What's that?
01:21:20.000 Poop.
01:21:21.000 Oh, oh, okay.
01:21:22.000 Is it?
01:21:23.000 Yeah, it really is.
01:21:24.000 I believe you because you're a convincing liar, too.
01:21:26.000 Yes, coprophagy is the act of eating feces and is normal in many mammals.
01:21:31.000 Oh.
01:21:32.000 Rabbits, rodents, dogs.
01:21:33.000 Democrats.
01:21:36.000 Yeah, they did it when the settlers were settling in the United States.
01:21:40.000 They had a bad winter or a series of bad winters and they were calling it the second harvest where they would reuse the feces for the seeds.
01:21:47.000 They'd get some more nutrition out of the seeds.
01:21:50.000 Starvation Against.
01:21:51.000 There was that one guy who was always drinking his own piss.
01:21:53.000 Who?
01:21:54.000 Bear Grill.
01:21:54.000 Bear Grills.
01:21:55.000 Was he always doing that?
01:21:55.000 Is that true?
01:21:56.000 No, he was actually staying at a Hilton that night.
01:21:58.000 Oh, that was definitely what he was doing.
01:22:00.000 I didn't know if they made that up.
01:22:01.000 And I think he's a legit badass, so less to be thought of otherwise.
01:22:04.000 I think Bear Grills was a legit badass and whether he stayed in the place and was like, I'm really thirsty right now, so I'm going to be drinking my own urine.
01:22:12.000 You're like, no, I don't think you're actually doing that.
01:22:13.000 I think that's Gatorade.
01:22:14.000 Yes, Bear Grylls has drunk his own urine on camera during his shows.
01:22:18.000 Nobody believes that.
01:22:19.000 In one episode, purportedly set in the Australian Outback, he drank from a bottle of his urine when no safer hydration source was available.
01:22:26.000 I got to go to the bathroom all this talking.
01:22:28.000 Don't forget your bottle.
01:22:29.000 No one trusts Ian is doing something.
01:22:32.000 Think about Bear Grylls.
01:22:33.000 I'm pretty excited.
01:22:35.000 Man.
01:22:36.000 Hey, let me tell you something about this chick that's on the screen right now.
01:22:39.000 She's complaining that no one's talking to her, but as soon as someone starts aggressively talking to her or cat calling, whatever, she's going to start complaining.
01:22:47.000 Everybody knows the meme where the suave looking guy in the suit says, hey, darn looking good.
01:22:53.000 And she goes, oh, thank you.
01:22:55.000 Then the fat guy with the glasses goes, looking good.
01:22:56.000 And she goes, help, HR.
01:22:58.000 That's right.
01:23:02.000 There was a funny meme about two attractive people were kissing in a park and the woman had her leg up and everyone's going, oh.
01:23:09.000 And then it was two old, morbidly obese people doing it and everyone's yelling like, get out of here, get a room.
01:23:14.000 I feel that way about both of them.
01:23:16.000 But that's just because I'm.
01:23:18.000 It's less offensive for the first group.
01:23:20.000 It is less offensive if they're attractive.
01:23:21.000 Yeah, you do get a pass if you attract.
01:23:23.000 People pay to see it.
01:23:24.000 They'll go to the movies and watch sexy celebrities.
01:23:27.000 Mostly women will pay for that and drag men along with it.
01:23:29.000 I want to pull this up.
01:23:30.000 I want to pull this up.
01:23:31.000 Pretty privilege is real.
01:23:32.000 It is real.
01:23:33.000 Absolutely.
01:23:34.000 Yeah.
01:23:35.000 If you're an attractive person, you can get away with a lot more.
01:23:38.000 There's been studies, too, that have actually shown that people attribute more intelligence than more attractive people are.
01:23:43.000 So we get like some of these news types that are out there and they have a relatively attractive face and they get credit for being smarter.
01:23:50.000 When we listen to them, we know that they're not.
01:23:52.000 Here's a story from CNBC.
01:23:53.000 I saw that.
01:23:54.000 Sydney Sweeney Sparks' latest meme stock rally is American Eagle Jumps because she's hot and she has big boobs.
01:24:01.000 And anybody who ever came to you at a corporate, at any kind of corporation or marketing firm and said, you want to do morbidly obese, ugly people.
01:24:09.000 Idiots.
01:24:10.000 They were taking you for a ride.
01:24:11.000 It's so strange that that was the thing for a period of time.
01:24:14.000 And then it's like a dove commercial that we've seen.
01:24:17.000 My favorite thing about this is that there's some marketing guy who goes, I've got an idea.
01:24:22.000 Just hear me out.
01:24:24.000 Big boobs.
01:24:24.000 And they went, oh, that's so crazy.
01:24:26.000 It might work.
01:24:27.000 And then they did.
01:24:28.000 Put her in ugly mom jeans and put her in front of a classic Ford Mustang.
01:24:31.000 Let's see if that gets some testosterone.
01:24:33.000 Inspirational.
01:24:34.000 We talked about this on PCC multiple times.
01:24:37.000 Like, the idea of showing your product on an unattractive person or with an unattractive person is totally counter to what you're trying to do.
01:24:47.000 You're trying to get people to associate your product with positive thoughts.
01:24:51.000 Jaguar.
01:24:52.000 I mean, yeah, Jaguar was bad.
01:24:54.000 The one that really sticks out was Calvin Klein.
01:24:56.000 They had two just atrociously obese people, and a man was wearing a bra.
01:25:04.000 It was a man, and he was wearing a bra because he was so fat.
01:25:08.000 And it's like, like I said on PCC, it's like we need to bring back aspirational in advertising, but not only in advertising.
01:25:18.000 Less face piercings.
01:25:19.000 Yes, definitely.
01:25:21.000 This is the commercial in question.
01:25:24.000 I love it.
01:25:26.000 Sold.
01:25:27.000 Yep.
01:25:27.000 I'll take the car.
01:25:29.000 That's a little on the nose, isn't it?
01:25:30.000 It is.
01:25:32.000 Does she really?
01:25:33.000 Oh, wait, listen, listen.
01:25:36.000 Is she going to fire it up?
01:25:37.000 Just listen.
01:25:40.000 Now it's not going to play.
01:25:41.000 I got to refresh my favorite part is that it stalled.
01:25:41.000 I like that.
01:25:44.000 The computer needed a minute.
01:25:46.000 Now just listen.
01:25:46.000 All right.
01:25:53.000 Siddharth Tweeny has great canes.
01:25:57.000 She has great jeans.
01:25:59.000 Yeah.
01:26:00.000 They show her leaning over the hood of a car with their boobs sticking out.
01:26:03.000 Then she smacks her own ass and their stock is going up.
01:26:07.000 Who did it better, though?
01:26:08.000 Her or Megan Fox in Transformers?
01:26:12.000 Well, that was 25 years ago or whatever.
01:26:15.000 Talking 25 years ago, Megan Fox.
01:26:16.000 I mean, I don't know that I have a preference.
01:26:19.000 They're both so attractive.
01:26:21.000 Female mechanic.
01:26:23.000 They're buying whatever they're selling either way.
01:26:24.000 Absolutely.
01:26:25.000 Yeah.
01:26:26.000 Yeah, the sound of the ASMR kind of thing that they're doing on that is a little, like I said, that's a little on the nose.
01:26:31.000 I was very funny that the director of the thing was like, okay, Sydney, we're going to need you to lean over.
01:26:36.000 We want to see your boobs.
01:26:37.000 And then when you get up, rub your butt.
01:26:39.000 We're going to film it all.
01:26:40.000 They're like, try to make it look like you're smoothing the wrinkles on these mom jeans that are actually not a particularly attractive fit.
01:26:40.000 How should it be?
01:26:46.000 But no matter what she wears, she's going to be fine in it.
01:26:48.000 But yeah, but it's aspirational.
01:26:50.000 Everyone says, oh, I could either buy those jeans for my gal and she'll look like that.
01:26:54.000 Or maybe I'll have a gal like that in a car like that.
01:26:57.000 Yeah.
01:26:58.000 It's like the old beer commercials, remember?
01:27:00.000 All the sexy ladies in bikinis drinking beer at the pool and the big fat guys were like, yeah, in the 90s.
01:27:05.000 You would crack a beer and see that.
01:27:07.000 They would like transform like whole scenes.
01:27:08.000 In the 90s, it was Spuds McKinsey surrounded by attractive women, like a dog and attractive women.
01:27:15.000 You can't get any more convincing than that.
01:27:17.000 Everyone loves dogs.
01:27:18.000 Everyone loves attractive women.
01:27:20.000 I wonder where do you draw the line with using sex to sell, just using sex.
01:27:25.000 You know, being in the entertainment in Hollywood, I lived out there for 18 is where you draw the line.
01:27:30.000 I knew you were going to say that.
01:27:31.000 I was trying so hard.
01:27:33.000 At what point is like an ad rep?
01:27:34.000 Do I go, well, or like making a movie, like how much sex do we put in the movie?
01:27:38.000 Because it will sell more tickets.
01:27:39.000 Well, so if you're talking about what actual sex are you talking about just attracting people, selling sex.
01:27:43.000 Sex.
01:27:43.000 You're right.
01:27:44.000 Just all of it.
01:27:46.000 You show it.
01:27:47.000 I mean, I almost did Naked Yoga.
01:27:49.000 I'm like, that series would kick ass.
01:27:51.000 Just put Antonio Mendez in it and it sells.
01:27:54.000 Sex, man.
01:27:55.000 Just his voice is enough for them.
01:27:57.000 Say it one more time.
01:27:58.000 Sex.
01:27:59.000 Sexual shit.
01:28:00.000 You know what?
01:28:01.000 The MCU is failing.
01:28:02.000 I bet they could bring it back if they just have more Scarlett Johansson in skin-tight black suits.
01:28:07.000 She had to get out.
01:28:08.000 kicking people's asses because that's actually a little hard for me to watch.
01:28:10.000 All I got to say is...
01:28:13.000 I do think, and this is not a joke, that there is a correlation between in the beginning of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, they have sexy Scarlett Johansson.
01:28:21.000 And I mean literally, they dressed her up in sexy clothes, skin-type all-black.
01:28:25.000 And then later on, they had girl boss no-butt Brie Larson, you know, conquering her emotions.
01:28:31.000 Even the way they're drawn is super sexy in like the 90s comics.
01:28:34.000 She went from being like basically the fetish model to like a girl who's going to be lecturing you like in an HR situation.
01:28:39.000 And then the Marvels, they were like, nah, we don't want like Phil saying aspirational women who are attractive.
01:28:46.000 We want frumpy women, you know, that nobody wants to watch.
01:28:49.000 And then guess what happened?
01:28:50.000 All those movies failed.
01:28:51.000 That's why the Ghostbusters lady reboot was so successful.
01:28:55.000 Oh, God.
01:28:56.000 And you know what else bothers me?
01:28:57.000 It's ruined.
01:28:57.000 Is they ruined Ant-Man.
01:28:59.000 How?
01:29:00.000 So the first Ant-Man people liked, and it was like, it was okay.
01:29:03.000 It was clever.
01:29:04.000 It made money.
01:29:04.000 Then they said they wanted to replace Paul Rudd with Evangeline Lily and have Wasp be the principal character.
01:29:12.000 Nobody wanted to see her.
01:29:14.000 And no beef to Evangeline Lily.
01:29:15.000 I think she's great in those films, but it's Ant-Man.
01:29:18.000 If you want to make a WASP movie, make a Wasp movie.
01:29:19.000 The problem is no one's going to see it.
01:29:21.000 So then they put her on the cover of the second movie.
01:29:24.000 She's in the front, in the foreground.
01:29:25.000 He's in the background.
01:29:26.000 And it's Ant-Man and the Wasp.
01:29:28.000 And it did worse.
01:29:29.000 And then the third one, Quantumania, was considered to be a failure.
01:29:34.000 You know, when you see women stepping into men's spaces, it's not surprising that men's have decided to return the favor in the last couple years.
01:29:41.000 It's weird to watch it.
01:29:42.000 My wife pointed this out to me.
01:29:43.000 She was like, women went to men's spaces first.
01:29:46.000 And the fact that now you've got the problem of bathrooms and all the other questions that was literally adjudicated with the last election and you see executive orders coming out of the White House trying to straighten some of that out.
01:29:56.000 It's like, yeah, this is a problem that was really predictable.
01:29:59.000 It started a while ago and it's just been going.
01:30:01.000 It's been on its own steam.
01:30:03.000 You look like that made you uncomfortable.
01:30:05.000 I was thinking about the culture war coming up tomorrow, whether or not I'm going to go.
01:30:09.000 I'm like, I have things, I got to go do things.
01:30:12.000 What is your spirit that's controlling you say?
01:30:16.000 Go do it.
01:30:17.000 Yeah.
01:30:18.000 And go do it.
01:30:18.000 And then, but if sometimes the spirit's like, go in that cave where all those hobgoblins are.
01:30:21.000 I'm like, there's hobgoblins in there.
01:30:23.000 I don't want to go in there.
01:30:24.000 And it's like, and I'm like, would you go in there, spirit, if you had a body?
01:30:27.000 And he's like, well, no, but you're my creature that I get to move around.
01:30:29.000 So go in there.
01:30:30.000 So go in there.
01:30:31.000 You have to.
01:30:31.000 You have to do what your purpose is.
01:30:32.000 You pretty much have to.
01:30:33.000 Yeah.
01:30:34.000 Cool.
01:30:35.000 As much as I can expand myself into that.
01:30:37.000 I'll talk more about sexuality and entertainment and having a wife and like, what's the purpose of it all, dude?
01:30:43.000 Like, reproduction.
01:30:44.000 Isn't that the purpose?
01:30:44.000 And what that means you make videos of yourself or you have kids.
01:30:47.000 They're both a form of reproduction.
01:30:49.000 No, I promise.
01:30:49.000 They're not the same.
01:30:50.000 Not the same, but both forms of reproduction.
01:30:51.000 No.
01:30:52.000 They're just not the same.
01:30:53.000 You can't just say, I mean, no reason to say no to it.
01:30:55.000 It's a truth.
01:30:56.000 They're both forms of reproduction.
01:30:56.000 It's not a truth.
01:30:57.000 I mean, if you think having a kid is a type of reproduction, which technically it's not, because it's a type of pro-creation, pro-production.
01:31:04.000 Yes.
01:31:04.000 Pro-creation.
01:31:06.000 Recordings are facsimiles.
01:31:08.000 You've not reproduced anything.
01:31:09.000 You've created a fake and you've preserved it.
01:31:12.000 You've recreated it.
01:31:13.000 over and over and over again, a replication.
01:31:14.000 It doesn't do anything.
01:31:16.000 Did you ever see the movie Multiplicity?
01:31:17.000 Because that turned out that it's not really good to keep doing that.
01:31:20.000 Eventually, you end up with a guy who's got a cognitive deficit.
01:31:22.000 Hey, Steve.
01:31:23.000 Oh, really?
01:31:25.000 It turns out we've got to be able to do it.
01:31:26.000 Have you not seen this?
01:31:27.000 No, I looked off.
01:31:28.000 Michael Keaton is one of my favorites always because he's played really dark and he's also like a pretty good comedian.
01:31:34.000 He did freaking Beetlejuice.
01:31:35.000 Hey, Steve.
01:31:37.000 Sorry, Tim, were you?
01:31:38.000 Licking the glue and stuff.
01:31:40.000 He's just licking the pizza and slapping it on his face.
01:31:43.000 I can't even leave you alone for a minute.
01:31:44.000 You just...
01:31:53.000 One, two, three, four.
01:31:57.000 Doug, if I might.
01:31:58.000 Yeah, one of those clones is something I said in 2007.
01:32:01.000 The video's still online.
01:32:03.000 I don't believe what it said, though.
01:32:05.000 Three.
01:32:09.000 Four.
01:32:11.000 Twelve.
01:32:15.000 Doug, I'd like you to read four.
01:32:18.000 It's so good.
01:32:19.000 I can't give it to me.
01:32:25.000 I like to have a car.
01:32:29.000 I got a wallet.
01:32:31.000 Come here.
01:32:35.000 Come here.
01:32:37.000 Where did he come from?
01:32:38.000 He's going to help us out around here a little bit.
01:32:40.000 Just do the day-to-day stuff.
01:32:42.000 Clean the house and mow the lawn, take out trash, all the bullshit.
01:32:45.000 We don't have time to do that.
01:32:46.000 Forget that!
01:32:47.000 Forget that!
01:32:50.000 What the hell's wrong with him?
01:32:53.000 Nothing.
01:32:54.000 Um.
01:32:56.000 You know, nothing really wrong.
01:32:58.000 You know, he's...
01:33:01.000 He's fine.
01:33:05.000 Yeah, he's special, alright.
01:33:07.000 Doug, see, what we did was, we made a copy from two.
01:33:10.000 And you know, sometimes you make a copy of a copy, it's not quite as sharp as, well, the original.
01:33:15.000 Well, that's kind of what happened.
01:33:17.000 Leeds loved it.
01:33:18.000 He loved it because he's, you know, we get it, we get it.
01:33:21.000 Jack Nicholson, man.
01:33:22.000 It's not the same.
01:33:23.000 That's not Jack Nicholson.
01:33:24.000 No, but they served together in Batman, the first movie.
01:33:27.000 Did you say they served together?
01:33:28.000 They did, yes.
01:33:29.000 That might be your best line that I've ever heard you drop.
01:33:32.000 That was emulating Nicholson.
01:33:35.000 Ian really overvalues his job.
01:33:38.000 Entertainment, the storytellers of reality, man, in some ways.
01:33:41.000 Recreation.
01:33:42.000 They call it recreation.
01:33:43.000 That's how I see that.
01:33:44.000 I saw Forrest Quaker.
01:33:46.000 Why was that for your service?
01:33:47.000 That was fantastic right there.
01:33:49.000 And it's also true.
01:33:50.000 Together in Batman, I will never not say it that way.
01:33:53.000 I am now going to refer to all actors that were in the same movie as people who serve together in a movie.
01:33:58.000 You forever.
01:33:59.000 Listen, there's sometimes like people say something and I just want it forever.
01:34:02.000 I had a buddy one time who was screwing with me.
01:34:04.000 We were doing the FBI Academy thing.
01:34:06.000 And now I say this all the time.
01:34:07.000 I can't help it.
01:34:08.000 And it's like in normal stuff.
01:34:10.000 We were doing these gun disarm drills.
01:34:11.000 Phil, you ever done gun disarms where you try to take the gun from somebody like in martial arts?
01:34:15.000 It's stupid.
01:34:15.000 It's really a good way to get killed.
01:34:16.000 Yep.
01:34:17.000 So we're standing there.
01:34:17.000 We're doing these gun disarms.
01:34:18.000 And they're like, guys, engage the subject.
01:34:21.000 He's got a gun on you.
01:34:22.000 You got to get him distracted.
01:34:23.000 Like, have him look you in the eye and ask him questions.
01:34:25.000 Like, hey, are you looking for my wallet or whatever?
01:34:27.000 So that's, they're supposed to engage you.
01:34:29.000 So my buddy, I turn, I hold the gun and I'm like, give me your wallet or whatever the stupid thing we're supposed to do.
01:34:35.000 And he turns and he looks at me dead in the eyes and he goes, are you from Chinese?
01:34:40.000 And I fell out laughing.
01:34:42.000 And of course, he does like the gun disarm, slap me in the head or whatever.
01:34:44.000 And I'm giggling like an idiot.
01:34:45.000 And they like came over and they yelled at me.
01:34:46.000 So now whenever, you know, like I'll buy something, my wife will be like, hey, what is that?
01:34:51.000 I'm like, I don't know.
01:34:51.000 It's just like this, it's a product.
01:34:52.000 It's just from Chinese.
01:34:53.000 And she was like, I hate Chinese or whatever.
01:34:56.000 It'll just be that.
01:34:57.000 We say it now.
01:34:58.000 I never say from China anymore.
01:34:59.000 I only say from Chinese.
01:35:00.000 And I'm only going to say they serve together.
01:35:02.000 Serve together in Batman.
01:35:04.000 Served together.
01:35:04.000 Keep together in Batman.
01:35:06.000 Like, I'm going to take that as a treasure for a long time.
01:35:08.000 You don't have no idea.
01:35:09.000 Man.
01:35:10.000 So you mean they were in the Batman movie.
01:35:12.000 Yeah, they served together.
01:35:14.000 They served together on the front lines.
01:35:16.000 They were both the leads in Batman.
01:35:17.000 You might know Michael.
01:35:18.000 The front lines have got them.
01:35:20.000 It's really funny because it's just like for no reason he brings up Jack Nicholson.
01:35:23.000 We're like, what?
01:35:23.000 Randomly.
01:35:24.000 Keaton was emulating Nicholson in that clip.
01:35:26.000 At the very end, he really took on Nicholson's mannerisms.
01:35:28.000 He must have affected working with one.
01:35:30.000 The part where he was like jumping on the bed?
01:35:32.000 No, no, no, no.
01:35:33.000 At the very end of the clip, his eyebrows, because Michael Keaton's got those communicative eyebrows.
01:35:38.000 I think he was actually channeling Michael Keaton from Bacman.
01:35:41.000 Nicholson might have been channeling Keaton, too.
01:35:43.000 You never know how that movie changed.
01:35:45.000 Almost like reproduction, that they're just bouncing it off.
01:35:48.000 Like a face-off.
01:35:49.000 Yeah, it's like Having watched clips from that about a week ago.
01:35:52.000 Nice.
01:35:53.000 Just face off.
01:35:53.000 I knew that.
01:35:54.000 Didn't Danny DeVito also serve with Jack Nicholson?
01:35:58.000 One flew over the cuckoo's nest.
01:36:00.000 DeVito, was he in that?
01:36:02.000 Pretty sure Danny DeVito was in that.
01:36:04.000 In what?
01:36:05.000 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
01:36:07.000 Yeah, I think you might be right.
01:36:08.000 And Christopher Lloyd was in that movie.
01:36:10.000 Oh, he served.
01:36:11.000 He served with Michael J. Fox in the series.
01:36:11.000 Yeah, Danny DeVito.
01:36:16.000 They had three tours.
01:36:17.000 Three tours.
01:36:18.000 Back to the Futures.
01:36:18.000 Three tours in the Back to the Future series.
01:36:21.000 I'm only going to be talking about it that way from here on out.
01:36:24.000 That was a special gift.
01:36:25.000 Man, if you've ever done a movie too, and it goes on for four months of like 12, 14 hour days, it feels like a form of service sometimes.
01:36:31.000 If you're getting paid, it's a nice.
01:36:33.000 Is he still doing movies?
01:36:34.000 He's still around.
01:36:35.000 What is the antecedent of he.
01:36:37.000 Nicholson.
01:36:38.000 Nicholson.
01:36:39.000 I'm going to see what he's up to.
01:36:40.000 I don't know if he's doing...
01:36:44.000 I think how sad it was to me.
01:36:45.000 He just walked into the weeds.
01:36:46.000 No, I just don't think he's doing a lot.
01:36:48.000 I don't think he's doing much either.
01:36:50.000 I think he's at the age where he stopped kind of being out in public.
01:36:53.000 I was thinking about Bruce Willis and then Ozzy Osborne.
01:36:55.000 Bruce Willis is like 70, but because of his condition, he doesn't really remember his previous life and stuff.
01:37:01.000 It's so awful.
01:37:02.000 The impact that that generation had on our culture and how now they're like 90, 80.
01:37:08.000 Oh, well, he actually just appeared on SNL.
01:37:12.000 Yeah, and then 10 years before that was SNL.
01:37:14.000 He hasn't done anything since 2010.
01:37:15.000 Well, the thing is, is nobody's seen that because people don't watch SNL.
01:37:18.000 That's true.
01:37:19.000 Yeah, they don't.
01:37:19.000 They don't.
01:37:20.000 Man, his first role was in 1958.
01:37:22.000 What was his first role?
01:37:25.000 Who was he serving with?
01:37:26.000 Yeah.
01:37:27.000 Jimmy Wallace and the Crybaby Killer.
01:37:29.000 Yo, wow.
01:37:31.000 He served with Harry Laughter and Carolyn Mitchell.
01:37:34.000 I wonder what kind of action they saw.
01:37:37.000 I don't want to take away from the value of combat.
01:37:39.000 You know, I'm not, I don't want to make a joke about you're not hurting anybody's feelings, I promise you.
01:37:43.000 That is fantastic stuff.
01:37:45.000 Oh, it's so good.
01:37:45.000 Yes.
01:37:46.000 Imagine that.
01:37:47.000 You know, there's the shooting, the camera.
01:37:48.000 They're like.
01:37:49.000 First, this shooting.
01:37:50.000 The day before I was driving home, my mother-in-law made a reference to the movie Splash, which is a weird thing to do, which I thought was Michael Keaton, but it's actually Tom Hanks in it.
01:38:00.000 And what, Daryl Hannah?
01:38:01.000 Yep.
01:38:02.000 1984.
01:38:03.000 I don't know why that's in my head, but it is.
01:38:05.000 I actually see the word Splash with the parentheses 1984 next to it.
01:38:08.000 And she said something about the movie to my children who are like the oldest one is eight.
01:38:16.000 So they've never heard of anything.
01:38:17.000 And I just said, yeah, we'll just stop by a blockbuster on the way home and we'll grab a copy of Splash.
01:38:22.000 And the only person at the table who laughed was my wife.
01:38:26.000 And that's how you know you've got the right person.
01:38:28.000 You have to have the right things when you're out there selecting.
01:38:31.000 If they don't get your jokes, if they don't understand that you're funny, doesn't matter how pretty they are.
01:38:34.000 It doesn't matter if they got the, what is the thing?
01:38:36.000 If the butt slapping noise that we just heard from what's her name?
01:38:39.000 Something Sweeney?
01:38:40.000 Yep.
01:38:40.000 Sidney Sweeney?
01:38:41.000 Sidney Sweeney?
01:38:41.000 I don't even know who these people are anymore.
01:38:43.000 That's we've aged out.
01:38:45.000 I've aged out from knowing what pop culture chicks are.
01:38:48.000 Pop culture chicks that stand with Mustangs.
01:38:50.000 We've gone full circle.
01:38:51.000 One flu over the cuckoo's nest is about Randall McMurphy being incarcerated for the statutory rip of a 15-year-old girl who he claims he thought was 18.
01:38:58.000 Interesting.
01:38:59.000 Strict liability crime.
01:39:00.000 Maybe that's why Ian brought him up.
01:39:03.000 I was leading us all to Jack Nicholson's portrayal of Randall Murphy.
01:39:06.000 I don't know who that guy's in.
01:39:07.000 You thought you were leading, but that's actually hit what God's Hand in the World looks like.
01:39:11.000 They put him in a mental institution for that?
01:39:14.000 No, he fakes a mental illness to avoid going to prison and doing hard labor.
01:39:17.000 That's a crazy movie.
01:39:18.000 That's a pretty good movie.
01:39:19.000 Pretty nuts.
01:39:20.000 One flew over?
01:39:21.000 Yeah.
01:39:21.000 Yeah.
01:39:22.000 I don't want to spoiler alert, but it's pretty nuts.
01:39:24.000 And then they lobotomize him.
01:39:25.000 Yeah.
01:39:26.000 Nurse.
01:39:26.000 Yeah.
01:39:27.000 The nurse kind of sees all that.
01:39:29.000 And it says she treats him horribly.
01:39:31.000 What movie was that?
01:39:33.000 It's like an inception thing.
01:39:34.000 I hated that movie.
01:39:35.000 Inception?
01:39:36.000 I fell asleep twice trying to watch it.
01:39:37.000 That's not normal.
01:39:38.000 I know.
01:39:39.000 It lulled me to sleep.
01:39:40.000 I don't understand it.
01:39:41.000 That's why.
01:39:42.000 I was watching it far away on a small TV, too, so that wasn't very...
01:39:46.000 I wasn't engaged.
01:39:48.000 And I'm interested.
01:39:49.000 A lot of vibrating imagery.
01:39:51.000 Yeah, there was a lot of movement.
01:39:52.000 There was a lot of slow motion.
01:39:53.000 There was a lot of like quiet.
01:39:55.000 Inception?
01:39:55.000 Inception.
01:39:56.000 Yeah, it was weird.
01:39:58.000 But it made me think.
01:39:59.000 I liked it.
01:40:00.000 What was the other one that was like that?
01:40:02.000 Tenant, maybe?
01:40:03.000 I never saw Tenant.
01:40:04.000 I only saw Inception one time, anyways.
01:40:06.000 It was a weird movie that, you know.
01:40:08.000 Yeah, neither of them make very much sense, but it's fun to see how weird it is.
01:40:14.000 And the visuals were really well run.
01:40:15.000 Yeah, Tenet was the Nolan thing where time is moving in two directions.
01:40:20.000 Yeah, it's a fun mind game.
01:40:23.000 I don't know if it works.
01:40:24.000 It doesn't.
01:40:24.000 It was what, Idris Elba?
01:40:26.000 Who did he serve with?
01:40:28.000 Probably Leonardo DiCaprio.
01:40:30.000 No, there was another big name in there, and I can't think of it.
01:40:32.000 Yeah, time at that.
01:40:33.000 I don't think time is...
01:40:39.000 Maybe they can watch things go forward and backwards.
01:40:41.000 Maybe.
01:40:42.000 Possibly.
01:40:42.000 Maybe.
01:40:43.000 Or maybe it's always snapshots.
01:40:45.000 Like, they don't see change.
01:40:46.000 No, that wouldn't make any sense.
01:40:47.000 Yeah, your theology needs work.
01:40:47.000 I have no idea.
01:40:48.000 That's all.
01:40:49.000 They're like in a kind of a stasis, a hyperactive stasis, it seems like.
01:40:53.000 But how do they age and die then?
01:40:55.000 That's a good question.
01:40:55.000 I don't know.
01:40:56.000 Yeah, you got twisted.
01:40:57.000 You got some things to work out in this.
01:40:58.000 Yeah, like what is time to an alien that experiences motion that's coming in to destroy us in November?
01:41:07.000 Is that the date that we expect it?
01:41:08.000 The what?
01:41:09.000 November, the alien from the alien.
01:41:11.000 Yeah, November is going to come wipe us out.
01:41:13.000 Okay.
01:41:14.000 So we have elections.
01:41:15.000 I think a different alien.
01:41:18.000 In Tenet, it was not Igis Elba.
01:41:22.000 It was John David Washington who was serving with Robert Pattinson.
01:41:25.000 Oh.
01:41:27.000 And Sir Michael Kaine.
01:41:29.000 Yes.
01:41:30.000 And Aaron Taylor Johnson was in there.
01:41:30.000 No, he was good.
01:41:32.000 It was a multinational.
01:41:32.000 Wow.
01:41:36.000 Yeah, they fielded a pretty good.
01:41:36.000 Wow.
01:41:38.000 They saw a lot of action in the war scene where they were fighting the terrorists.
01:41:42.000 Who was the Supreme Commander of that movie?
01:41:44.000 No, Ian.
01:41:45.000 I'm just asking the director's name.
01:41:47.000 Literally, I figured it was the director.
01:41:49.000 Was it the producer Nolan?
01:41:50.000 No, the Supreme Commander is given the authority by the producer.
01:41:52.000 Emma Thomas?
01:41:54.000 Like Eisenhower, you know?
01:41:56.000 Like Eisenhower?
01:41:57.000 We've gone down.
01:41:58.000 We've gone down.
01:41:59.000 World director of World War II.
01:42:00.000 This is like one of those flax spins from Top Gun where you just can't recover.
01:42:04.000 As the night goes on and viewership generally declines, I've kept up the image of Sidney Sweeney holding her butt so that Tate could periodically flash the screen with that to maintain viewership.
01:42:13.000 It's because you're smart.
01:42:14.000 That's not dumb, yeah.
01:42:15.000 All right, we're going to go to your chats and Rumble Rants.
01:42:17.000 So smash the like button, share the show, all that good stuff.
01:42:20.000 It's Friday night.
01:42:21.000 It's a lovely summer evening.
01:42:23.000 Let's see what you guys have to say.
01:42:25.000 We got Shan H. Wilder.
01:42:25.000 We got the good stuff.
01:42:27.000 He says, the executive order to get the homeless off the streets has been a long time coming.
01:42:30.000 MAGA, make asylums great again.
01:42:32.000 Mazga, I'm flying out Monday to hang out in West Virginia, D.C., and we'll be at the Culture War on the 2nd.
01:42:37.000 Let's go.
01:42:38.000 Ooh, holler back.
01:42:40.000 There are some people that have a negative opinion of the, you know, making aside making asylums something where you can actually involuntarily commit people.
01:42:49.000 And it feels like they don't understand that homeless people are not, like, allowing them to languish on the street is not compassionate.
01:42:59.000 It's not at all.
01:43:00.000 At all.
01:43:00.000 If you've ever worked with that segment of the population, there are some people that are there by choice for sure.
01:43:05.000 But I've had guys come into emergency rooms that have so little sense that they wanted to be committed, right?
01:43:12.000 I had a guy that we actually did the evaluation on him.
01:43:15.000 24 hours later, we let him out of the psych hold.
01:43:18.000 He walked straight out to his car, came back in with a razor blade, cut his wrist, not in a way that was going to kill him, but just made a mess.
01:43:23.000 And then he just put blood all over the windows and we had to take him back in because he wanted to be, like he had moments of lucidity where he was like, I need help.
01:43:30.000 You guys aren't giving it to me.
01:43:32.000 It is not compassionate.
01:43:33.000 I've worked on an ambulance.
01:43:34.000 I've worked in emergency medicine.
01:43:35.000 I worked in an ER.
01:43:36.000 I'm also people do not understand that the number of homeless people that are homeless because of mental illness is somewhere around 75 or 77%.
01:43:47.000 I did a good circle.
01:43:48.000 It's a strong majority.
01:43:50.000 The Venn diagram is almost a circle of people that are mentally ill, homeless, and have some kind of substance dependency.
01:43:57.000 It is not compassionate to leave these People to be languishing on the streets or to live in tent cities.
01:44:04.000 It is the best thing that you can.
01:44:06.000 And never mind what it does to the people that have homes or the people that want to go to cities or that have to use the subway or whatever.
01:44:15.000 That lost track of them.
01:44:16.000 Here's the thing that never mind that.
01:44:17.000 Here's the balance of it, though, because one flew over the cuckoo's nest is actually the great example of it.
01:44:22.000 That's also a vulnerable population, and a lot of people abuse them in positions of power that should never have been in there.
01:44:27.000 So a check and balance system, you know, whenever you put government in charge, you're getting an awful system, even if it's the only system that could do it.
01:44:33.000 So you end up with this really nasty thing where it needs checks and balances.
01:44:37.000 You need to have some accountability.
01:44:38.000 You need to be able to have people go in there so they're not just private fiefdoms where they're just running amok and hurting people because they're in a place where they want to do that.
01:44:45.000 I don't know.
01:44:45.000 Make asylums great if they're actually great.
01:44:47.000 Here we go.
01:44:48.000 We got Concrete Hades says Lex Wesner destroyed an entire town in Ohio for his good buddy Bezos.
01:44:53.000 Epstein had parties with Bezos, present at Wesner's estate, from what I understand.
01:44:59.000 I wonder what town that was in Ohio.
01:45:00.000 Yaki India says, so the Donald on the birthday card was Donald Barr?
01:45:06.000 The birthday card that we're talking about, Epstein?
01:45:08.000 Unlikely.
01:45:08.000 No, I don't think they had friendship afterwards.
01:45:10.000 It was just a quick hiring thing back in 1976.
01:45:14.000 All right.
01:45:14.000 Klutz says, keeping tradition, currently waiting in the hospital for my first grandchild to be born.
01:45:18.000 Let's go, Riley Jane.
01:45:19.000 Congratulations.
01:45:20.000 Grandkids.
01:45:22.000 Grandchild.
01:45:24.000 Jumped up.
01:45:25.000 Pleb says, my wife is a stay-at-home mom.
01:45:27.000 We have five now.
01:45:28.000 But when we got started, it was too expensive for my wife to work because of cost of daycare.
01:45:32.000 Yep.
01:45:32.000 Yeah.
01:45:33.000 That's the other thing that's always forgotten.
01:45:34.000 Wow, the opportunity cost.
01:45:36.000 Cornelius Buttknuckle says, based on Ian tonight, Tim should probably do a quick inventory of the air duster cans.
01:45:42.000 Nah, it's okay.
01:45:43.000 We use electric air dusters.
01:45:45.000 And those go right up my nose.
01:45:46.000 Interesting.
01:45:48.000 You party with Hunter?
01:45:51.000 I couldn't understand what you said, but yes.
01:45:53.000 You party with Hunter.
01:45:55.000 Just cop to it.
01:45:56.000 What you're trying to say is that you sort of...
01:46:01.000 Just whatever he feels like.
01:46:03.000 I can't understand what you said, but yes.
01:46:05.000 I like that.
01:46:06.000 Miss Fitbrad says, woman teacher ruined me, told me a horror story of her life and to never rely on man.
01:46:11.000 Divorced parents, I'm a workaholic, picked the wrong man to marry, and paid that lesson with my youth, 40 and childless.
01:46:17.000 Still got time.
01:46:17.000 Oof.
01:46:19.000 Sorry to hear it.
01:46:20.000 Sorry to hear it.
01:46:22.000 There's a big scandal right now with, you know, I think we talked about it in the members only because we didn't want to go too ham with it.
01:46:28.000 But should I tell the story of that journalist who left his wife?
01:46:33.000 I mean, gently.
01:46:35.000 Gently.
01:46:36.000 I mean.
01:46:38.000 He had to do it.
01:46:39.000 Rabbi Suave.
01:46:41.000 It was funny because this is the big scandal involving him now.
01:46:44.000 We were on the hill.
01:46:44.000 We had a story pulled up.
01:46:45.000 There's a big old picture of him.
01:46:46.000 He apparently was married for like, what, 17 years or 14 years, something?
01:46:49.000 Something like that.
01:46:50.000 And now he's married to a guy.
01:46:51.000 He's a new viewer for 19.
01:46:52.000 Oh, okay, there you go.
01:46:53.000 And now he's like announcing he's married some like young Asian guy.
01:46:57.000 And everyone's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
01:46:59.000 Is he a Marine?
01:47:00.000 No, he's a libertarian.
01:47:03.000 That's a thing.
01:47:04.000 Wow.
01:47:06.000 Like, that's really awful.
01:47:09.000 Yeah.
01:47:09.000 Anyway, I don't know.
01:47:11.000 I ruined the woman's life.
01:47:12.000 Sorry.
01:47:13.000 Eric 4x4 says, I just spent the week in Chirac.
01:47:15.000 And on the drive up and the drive back along 65 and 74, I saw three Timcast bulletin boards.
01:47:20.000 Kind of cool.
01:47:21.000 In Iraq?
01:47:22.000 Chirac.
01:47:23.000 Iraq.
01:47:23.000 Chicago.
01:47:25.000 That's in Illinois.
01:47:25.000 It's not in Illinois.
01:47:27.000 Cool.
01:47:27.000 Yeah.
01:47:28.000 In fact, we have billboards all over the country.
01:47:30.000 Multinational.
01:47:31.000 Is that even feasible?
01:47:32.000 Billboards in other countries?
01:47:33.000 Like in London or something.
01:47:34.000 It'd be weird to be like watch live at 4 in the morning.
01:47:37.000 You know what I mean?
01:47:38.000 You'd have to say it in Arabic, too.
01:47:41.000 Or London.
01:47:41.000 Well, Urdu, actually.
01:47:42.000 I was about to say maybe a bunch of other languages.
01:47:47.000 Urdu.
01:47:48.000 President Nixon did nothing wrong, says this is a distraction from the fact that Trump can release all thousands of Epstein files DOJ has now.
01:47:55.000 These files aren't sealed.
01:47:56.000 Redact victims.
01:47:57.000 That's true.
01:47:58.000 They're on Bondi's desk from what I heard.
01:48:00.000 I heard that desk is also where the aliens are.
01:48:02.000 Oh, it's like a black hole.
01:48:03.000 Yeah, Kyle, you made a really good point that these files aren't files.
01:48:06.000 It's like, well, there might be files on a computer, digital.
01:48:09.000 I mean, at any point, the files related to the case.
01:48:12.000 Yes.
01:48:12.000 And I do think you make a good point about the perception of what the files means, because when I say I want the files released, I'm not talking about a blanket release of every document they have.
01:48:24.000 And that's not even to say, like, obviously the victim stuff, you redact.
01:48:27.000 But then there's going to be other stuff that could compromise law enforcement that doesn't need to be released either.
01:48:32.000 We know that they actually went out there and did all those redactions.
01:48:34.000 I've got buddies that were actually working in the Hoover building letting me know in real time that this was happening.
01:48:38.000 They were redacting victims' names.
01:48:39.000 So they were using AI to scan through all the case files that they had.
01:48:43.000 And then they were going, and then there was a human follow-up to make sure that they were getting it correct to redact things.
01:48:48.000 But sensibly to release them.
01:48:50.000 I'm saying this.
01:48:51.000 Everyone goes, obviously, we're not going to release the victims.
01:48:53.000 Okay, yes.
01:48:54.000 But there are also files where it's going to not mention any perpetrators, but it's going to mention FBI agents.
01:48:59.000 We don't want to release the information.
01:49:02.000 You want to release the name of the people who are working on the case?
01:49:04.000 If you work for the FBI, at the end of the day, yeah.
01:49:06.000 Like, here's the thing.
01:49:07.000 If you went out there and you wanted to arrest somebody and you're an FBI agent, you put your name on the criminal complaint.
01:49:11.000 You put your name when you go out there and you sign the arrest warrant or you're the person on the search warrant return.
01:49:16.000 Like you're a public servant.
01:49:17.000 And we do have this real dangerous, weird idea because the FBI has been doing this for J6 cases almost exclusively.
01:49:22.000 I know guys that ran down cartel guys over, like that was their full-time job.
01:49:26.000 They ran down drug dealers and gangbangers and bad people that made threats on their life.
01:49:30.000 Their name was public when they went out and prosecuted those cases.
01:49:33.000 The J6 thing is the first time I've ever seen blanket redactions of whoever was signing.
01:49:37.000 Right, right.
01:49:38.000 But I'm saying there's going to be information not relevant to the perpetrators.
01:49:42.000 Yeah, you don't have to blank it.
01:49:44.000 But at the end of the day, you shouldn't not release something simply because it has an FBI agent's name in it.
01:49:48.000 No, I'm just saying it's a hypothetical of there's going to be a bunch of documents that are related to the case, but not relevant to incrimination or involvement of individuals.
01:49:59.000 Yeah, there should be a purpose for return.
01:50:00.000 It could be routine.
01:50:01.000 It could have private information of an unrelated person, like where they were at at the time and their home address or something.
01:50:06.000 There's going to be unrelated information.
01:50:07.000 Oh, that PII, you definitely want to get rid of that, the personal identifying information.
01:50:11.000 No question about it.
01:50:12.000 Not even the victims.
01:50:13.000 Yeah, but for whatever it's worth, law enforcement, when you guys see cops, what do they wear?
01:50:16.000 A name badge.
01:50:17.000 They've got a badge and a badge number, and that's supposed to identify them.
01:50:20.000 When you're an FBI agent, you're not a secret agent, even though I used to think that was a funny joke.
01:50:24.000 You're issued a set of credentials that you show people.
01:50:26.000 Everyone's seen them at Fox Mulder and Scott.
01:50:28.000 You hold them up, and it's got your name on it.
01:50:29.000 It says that you're a duly appointed federal agent.
01:50:32.000 How many people do you think joined the FBI because of the X-Files?
01:50:35.000 Me and probably everybody.
01:50:37.000 So whatever that was like.
01:50:38.000 I actually have an X-Files poster in my wall.
01:50:40.000 It reminds me of what I hoped what the FBI was going to be.
01:50:45.000 When I was a little kid, the FBI was so cool.
01:50:46.000 And then I became a teenager and got the internet.
01:50:48.000 And then I was like, nope.
01:50:51.000 It turns out that.
01:50:52.000 You know what?
01:50:53.000 I actually named my last two years there, I have my son's name is Bodhi.
01:50:59.000 It's spelled exactly like Bodhi from Point Break.
01:51:03.000 Right.
01:51:04.000 And that was when Patrick Swayze served with.
01:51:07.000 Gianu.
01:51:07.000 Gianu Reese.
01:51:10.000 So I named my son that, and I have a poster of the two of them skydiving from the famous scene up on my wall.
01:51:14.000 Just as a reminder to me, like that's not what the FBI is, but that's what people used to think it was.
01:51:18.000 To be honest, it was a lot easier to say when he served with Keanu instead of saying he appeared in the same movie as Keanu.
01:51:24.000 No, it flows.
01:51:25.000 It flows.
01:51:26.000 Like I said, it was a gift.
01:51:27.000 A revolutionary.
01:51:28.000 I'm sticking with me.
01:51:28.000 Yeah.
01:51:30.000 Being an actor, it is a form of service.
01:51:31.000 No cap.
01:51:34.000 I don't even know what that means.
01:51:35.000 I don't either.
01:51:36.000 It means love lying.
01:51:37.000 Oh, there it goes.
01:51:37.000 I'm too old for this.
01:51:39.000 I knew what it insinuated.
01:51:40.000 I'm older than you, and I know this.
01:51:42.000 How old are you?
01:51:43.000 50.
01:51:43.000 Man, you're so old.
01:51:46.000 You're so old.
01:51:47.000 What does cap even mean?
01:51:48.000 What does it mean?
01:51:49.000 No lie.
01:51:50.000 No capping means.
01:51:51.000 But why?
01:51:51.000 It means capping is lying, so then no cap would mean not lying.
01:51:56.000 I capped all caps.
01:51:57.000 Do you know what glazing means?
01:52:00.000 All of these new words, like a skibbity and all of that.
01:52:02.000 I don't know what that is.
01:52:04.000 That's a reference to a YouTube.
01:52:07.000 The only new word that I've heard that I really hate is the new slang for hot dogs.
01:52:11.000 I don't want to call them glizzies.
01:52:12.000 I'm not calling them glizzies.
01:52:13.000 Absolutely not.
01:52:14.000 Glizzy is slang for male genitals.
01:52:17.000 And it glides down your throat.
01:52:18.000 Is that the whole point?
01:52:19.000 A glizzy gliding down.
01:52:21.000 That's the noise your throat is.
01:52:22.000 Glizzy started.
01:52:24.000 I hope the glimmer wasn't on you.
01:52:25.000 Glizzy started as slang for Glock.
01:52:28.000 Because your Glock was your Glizzy.
01:52:32.000 It started as a slang for that.
01:52:33.000 I don't know how it became the slang for a hot dog.
01:52:36.000 I don't like it.
01:52:37.000 I don't like it at all.
01:52:38.000 So it started as Glock, and then people started making jokes about hot dogs being guns and calling them glizzies.
01:52:45.000 And then a bunch of gay guys started saying glizzy as giving blowjobs.
01:52:49.000 And now Glizzy means, you know, blowing a guy.
01:52:52.000 It's the gay guy's fault is what you're saying.
01:52:54.000 I mean, that's what I took from that.
01:52:56.000 I think the issue is the moment a single gay man makes a YouTube video or TikTok where he says this is what it means, everyone backs off like, I don't say that.
01:53:05.000 I never said that.
01:53:05.000 Don't look at me.
01:53:06.000 Can we please get someone to make that and make this thing stop?
01:53:09.000 No, it's true.
01:53:10.000 No, I want it to stop, though.
01:53:11.000 So we want no more glizzy.
01:53:13.000 I would like it to stop.
01:53:14.000 Glizzy is a gay slang term for giving a man for men giving men.
01:53:14.000 Yeah.
01:53:18.000 No, but didn't you say we need to have a man who is gay say that as an expert?
01:53:21.000 No, no, no, no, no.
01:53:22.000 You must understand.
01:53:23.000 They did this five years ago.
01:53:25.000 And it's still happening?
01:53:26.000 And people, so when someone says the word glizzy, they're referring to blowing guys.
01:53:31.000 I don't like it.
01:53:34.000 I don't like it in terms of hot dogs.
01:53:36.000 If you're not hanging out in bathhouses, you'll never see.
01:53:39.000 That's true.
01:53:40.000 I'm totally safe from that.
01:53:41.000 But also, you have to hear people say things.
01:53:43.000 What are the other words that we hated?
01:53:45.000 Just like all of, what generation are you?
01:53:48.000 Z?
01:53:48.000 Alpha?
01:53:49.000 Z?
01:53:49.000 Alpha is old as our 15.
01:53:52.000 Yeah, the oldest alpha, I think, are 13 or 13 years old, I think.
01:53:52.000 Okay.
01:53:55.000 Yeah.
01:53:56.000 And there's only 40 million of them.
01:53:58.000 I don't want to get into the whole generation.
01:54:00.000 We're totally in like a upside-down pyramids game.
01:54:03.000 We're screwed.
01:54:04.000 Oh, yeah.
01:54:05.000 There's half as many Gen Alphas as there were millennials.
01:54:08.000 And it's Boomer's fault, yeah.
01:54:09.000 And this is why, I'm going to say it again.
01:54:11.000 I'm going to say it again.
01:54:12.000 They are rebooting Scrubs, Malcolm in the Middle, King of the Hill, Happy Gilmore 2 just came out.
01:54:17.000 Rumors of Married with Children.
01:54:19.000 All they're doing is regurgitating the 90s for millennials because the millennial market has, millennials have a little bit of money and Gen Z and Gen Alpha are completely broke and small generations.
01:54:29.000 You mentioned a couple nights ago how they're like people are all going to have their own AI programs that they go, show me that Scrubs season three, but with Donald Fazon.
01:54:40.000 And everyone will have their own references of culture of what a good song.
01:54:43.000 You'll live in the pod.
01:54:44.000 Because everyone's making their own version of it.
01:54:46.000 We don't have an identifying culture.
01:54:47.000 Well, this is a concern I've got, like Pearl Jam, a band I could relate to a girl on, and then I'd be like, I got something in common with this human.
01:54:55.000 Now, if everyone's making their own music in their own head.
01:54:57.000 Like you don't watch Timcast IRL.
01:54:59.000 You will live in the pod and you will eat the bugs.
01:55:02.000 And you will be happy.
01:55:03.000 Yeah, you're going to be a hairless, skinless Matrix pod dweller.
01:55:06.000 I've seen that movie.
01:55:07.000 Dude, I can't wait.
01:55:08.000 No, I'm happy for this, though.
01:55:10.000 For real.
01:55:10.000 You know why?
01:55:11.000 Because I can live in Montana.
01:55:12.000 The only thing that matters is that I can AI generate a version of Revenge of the Sith where Anakin comes to his senses and Mace Window decides it's probably a bad idea to execute the Chancellor on the spot.
01:55:22.000 And then the Jedi come in and arrest him and they hold a trial and he gets arrested and the Republic is saved.
01:55:26.000 Wow.
01:55:27.000 You really need that.
01:55:28.000 I need it.
01:55:29.000 It has to happen.
01:55:30.000 It's like there's a vexing you.
01:55:32.000 Mace Windu is like, he's too dangerous.
01:55:33.000 And Anakin goes, it's not the Jedi way.
01:55:35.000 And Mace goes, you're right.
01:55:37.000 Okay.
01:55:38.000 Get more Jedi in here.
01:55:39.000 We're going to arrest him.
01:55:39.000 And he goes, yes.
01:55:40.000 Mace Windu was played by.
01:55:43.000 Samuel.
01:55:44.000 Samuel L. Jackson.
01:55:45.000 He served with, what, Ewan McGregor and some of the others?
01:55:47.000 Indeed.
01:55:48.000 They served together.
01:55:49.000 Samuel L. Jackson probably served with everybody, to be honest.
01:55:51.000 That's actually probably true.
01:55:52.000 He might be the next Kevin Bacon.
01:55:55.000 Yeah.
01:55:56.000 He might be the modern Kevin Bacon.
01:55:57.000 Indeed.
01:55:58.000 He's the most decorated actor.
01:56:00.000 Some people say that.
01:56:01.000 Yeah.
01:56:02.000 Some would say.
01:56:03.000 Highly decorated.
01:56:05.000 All right, here we go.
01:56:06.000 We got Real Warpig.
01:56:07.000 It says, if you're over 30 and don't have your own family, you have failed.
01:56:10.000 What I would say is...
01:56:14.000 I'd put it like this.
01:56:15.000 If you do not have children, you will be the first life form in a multi-billion year long chain of reproduction that did not reproduce.
01:56:25.000 And you got to, you know, be gentle with that term family because some people are born to real assholes and they don't think of those people as their family.
01:56:32.000 The people that took them in and that raised them are the actual family.
01:56:35.000 So just because you don't have kids doesn't, or don't have parents alive doesn't mean you don't have a family of some sort.
01:56:40.000 Oh, I got to read this one.
01:56:41.000 Tetris says, got a 16-month-old daughter.
01:56:43.000 She just ate a June bug.
01:56:44.000 Yeah, baby.
01:56:46.000 That's what I'm talking about.
01:56:48.000 Be careful, though.
01:56:49.000 No, seriously, be careful with that because you can die.
01:56:53.000 I don't know about June bugs, but you don't eat bugs for a reason.
01:56:56.000 I don't know if you guys know the story of— Off the ground, I don't know that you can.
01:57:02.000 There was a dude who at a party, he was like 19, and someone grabbed a slug, and then a dare, he dunked it in his beer and slammed it, and he was dead within a week.
01:57:11.000 Yeah, within a few days.
01:57:13.000 You cannot eat insects out of the dirt.
01:57:15.000 Remember when they were selling cicadas?
01:57:17.000 Isn't it a mollusk?
01:57:18.000 It is.
01:57:18.000 It was a slug.
01:57:19.000 It is a mollusk.
01:57:20.000 It's not an insect, then.
01:57:22.000 I'm saying generally you can't eat bugs out of the dirt.
01:57:23.000 Just cook it.
01:57:24.000 Leviticus.
01:57:25.000 Doesn't Leviticus say not to eat bugs?
01:57:26.000 Yeah, it was a parasite that went into his brain and killed him.
01:57:28.000 Sam Ballard, a 19-year-old Australian rugby player died on November 2nd, 2018.
01:57:34.000 That was like a long time ago.
01:57:34.000 Ate a slug.
01:57:35.000 Dude, that's some old stuff.
01:57:36.000 What are you talking about?
01:57:37.000 From eating a slug.
01:57:38.000 That'd be a rough way to go.
01:57:39.000 Everything should be cooked.
01:57:42.000 He contracted rat lungworm disease from eating the slug.
01:57:45.000 Is that really what it's called?
01:57:46.000 Yeah.
01:57:46.000 Dude, going with that as being your out, if that's your exit map, rat lung disease, that sounds like the worst thing that you could put in your.
01:57:53.000 He was alive for eight years after that, too.
01:57:55.000 He died eight years later.
01:57:57.000 It happened in 2018.
01:57:57.000 All right, let's go.
01:57:58.000 That doesn't make any sense.
01:57:59.000 He died in 18.
01:58:00.000 Noah Sanders says, can't wait to see you next week.
01:58:03.000 You should invite J.D. DeLay for August 2nd.
01:58:06.000 He's an ex-con who's friends with Angry Cops.
01:58:08.000 Great addition to the discussion.
01:58:09.000 Ex-con anarchist and an active cop all sides.
01:58:12.000 Well, the idea is there's four people on stage and an open seat for anyone in the audience to come up and join the debate.
01:58:18.000 And so it's going to be funny.
01:58:21.000 We're going to do a half an hour between Angry Cops and Michael Malis about policing.
01:58:25.000 And then we're going to invite literally random people to get on the stage and challenge the positions of the individuals.
01:58:32.000 And we'll see.
01:58:33.000 We'll see.
01:58:34.000 I think we're expecting right now we have confirmed around 80 individuals for this Saturday.
01:58:39.000 But it could be more because they canceled the tickets and refunded them.
01:58:42.000 So we don't know if we actually are going over it.
01:58:44.000 But we have 200 seats.
01:58:45.000 So I think we'll be fine.
01:58:46.000 The Angry Cops, Michael Malis, one, I think, is probably going to sell out.
01:58:49.000 So DCComedyLoft.com, get your tickets now.
01:58:52.000 Because I think we're close to selling out already.
01:58:55.000 If you do want to come to that one, buy your tickets.
01:58:58.000 And then August 9th, we're doing the feminism debate, which I was asking if people with tickets that got canceled, but they didn't rebuy because they didn't know, are they able to come show up with their canceled ticket?
01:59:09.000 I mean, probably not supposed to, and be like, sorry, I have my name.
01:59:12.000 You see, I bought it.
01:59:13.000 It's canceled.
01:59:13.000 Probably, but the challenge we're going to have is if we, if, if, let's say it's a 200-seat venue.
01:59:18.000 Let's say 110 people buy tickets get canceled.
01:59:20.000 A different 110 people buy tickets.
01:59:22.000 They both show up.
01:59:23.000 There's going to be 20 people that won't have seen it.
01:59:25.000 It's just like first come, first serve, maybe until it fills up.
01:59:27.000 I don't know, man.
01:59:28.000 Do like a thunderdome outside and see within a show.
01:59:31.000 Crack a pool stick in half and throw it on the ground and say tryouts.
01:59:34.000 See who's coming in.
01:59:34.000 Right.
01:59:35.000 The windows are off limits.
01:59:37.000 Don't climb through the windows.
01:59:38.000 And we'll be hiding right by the windows, waiting.
01:59:41.000 I think we'll be fine.
01:59:42.000 I don't, like the first event I don't think was going to sell out.
01:59:46.000 I think we'll probably end up with 100 or a little bit more with some last minute.
01:59:50.000 Who are the guests?
01:59:51.000 We have Gavin McInnes and Matan Evan and Pisco Liddy, the liberal lawyer.
01:59:56.000 So if you guys don't know who Matan is, he's how do you describe him?
02:00:01.000 Well, he's a hero.
02:00:02.000 He's a comedic interview personality.
02:00:04.000 He's a Gen Z guy.
02:00:05.000 Everyone knows Gavin.
02:00:06.000 He created the Proud Boys.
02:00:07.000 Matan, he appeared talking about Bill Clinton being his rabbi, I think, and then had every indication to me of just being a flash in the pan, young guy, just making a viral hit.
02:00:17.000 But he is the real deal.
02:00:19.000 I'm really looking forward to seeing him work.
02:00:20.000 I don't know.
02:00:21.000 I haven't met him in person yet.
02:00:24.000 It's going to be half debate, half kind of semi-roast.
02:00:26.000 Is that kind of the game, too?
02:00:28.000 No, no.
02:00:29.000 It's full debate.
02:00:30.000 It's meant to be a debate that's fun.
02:00:32.000 So it's at a comedy club, and the idea is when we're debating, we're going to be serious, but there's going to be snark and there's going to be heckling.
02:00:32.000 Got it.
02:00:42.000 And it's meant to just be a good time where we shouldn't leave angry at each other's throats.
02:00:47.000 We should be laughing and being like, okay, okay, you got me.
02:00:49.000 So it's not that maybe you're right.
02:00:52.000 It's not that anyone's directly getting roasted.
02:00:52.000 Maybe you're right.
02:00:54.000 Sure, sure.
02:00:55.000 But we're going to make fun of each other.
02:00:56.000 Roast some points.
02:00:57.000 Alex Stein is the roast man.
02:01:00.000 During the pilot, we were like, we need Stein to be the comedic levity for the debate.
02:01:05.000 He was the one trying to keep it together.
02:01:07.000 Yeah, if it's too crazy, he'll.
02:01:09.000 I've been on his program where I didn't know what I was getting into, and I didn't know if he was going to do like a straight interview, which is what he ended up doing, or if he was going to go there and just be like Alex Stein, which is what I assumed.
02:01:17.000 And so I literally got invited on.
02:01:20.000 We were doing it remote.
02:01:20.000 He was up in Dallas.
02:01:21.000 I'm in Austin.
02:01:22.000 Like, I pop on the screen and he was like, and now we have Kyle Serifin.
02:01:25.000 Like, how you doing?
02:01:25.000 I'm like, I'm doing pretty good.
02:01:26.000 I haven't seen you since I saw you humping my leg last, which is the last time I saw him.
02:01:29.000 He was actually humping my leg.
02:01:31.000 And he was like, oh, well, let's talk about some stuff in the news.
02:01:36.000 Catching Alex Stein off guard is like my favorite thing.
02:01:39.000 By the way, when I first met him, I met him at a seat, not a CPAC.
02:01:42.000 I met him at an Amfest.
02:01:43.000 I walked up to him and I had never met him before.
02:01:45.000 He had just started following me on X. I'm standing there with my wife.
02:01:47.000 My wife is tiny and Alex is a pretty big guy.
02:01:49.000 He's obviously a lot bigger than me.
02:01:51.000 So I see him standing there.
02:01:51.000 I go, hey, hon, I'm going to go say hi to him.
02:01:53.000 She was like, oh, don't do that.
02:01:54.000 I'm like, I'm just going to go.
02:01:55.000 I go, hey, Alex Stein.
02:01:56.000 Hey, how's it going?
02:01:56.000 Kyle Serifin.
02:01:57.000 You're my biggest fan.
02:01:59.000 He had absolutely no idea what to do with that.
02:02:01.000 He's like.
02:02:01.000 He looked at me.
02:02:02.000 It is.
02:02:03.000 You know, what's really crazy?
02:02:04.000 I keep catching people like that off guard.
02:02:06.000 I could see him keeping together.
02:02:07.000 I am surprised to a certain extent at how famous Alex Stein is.
02:02:10.000 He's really recognizable.
02:02:13.000 But like, he's wearing a suit and he's tall.
02:02:15.000 You walk to the casino, and every time someone's running up to them and going, Primetime 99!
02:02:21.000 He did a good job with that.
02:02:22.000 He was not screwing around at the end of the day.
02:02:23.000 Some dude jumped up from the blackjack table and was like, primetime 99.
02:02:26.000 He also jumped on barstools sort of thing.
02:02:28.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:02:29.000 He came up like a half villain by doing his thing there.
02:02:31.000 So he didn't screw up.
02:02:32.000 All right, everybody.
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02:02:46.000 So, yeah, thanks for hanging out.
02:02:47.000 Kyle, do you want to shout anything out?
02:02:48.000 Yep.
02:02:48.000 You guys can find me in the mornings.
02:02:50.000 I'm on Rumble.
02:02:51.000 I'm on YouTube.
02:02:52.000 I'm on X. It's at Kyle Seraphin on all those places.
02:02:54.000 Real easy to find.
02:02:57.000 Oh, sorry.
02:02:58.000 Yeah.
02:02:58.000 I'm on Twitter, X, whatever you call it now.
02:03:00.000 It's Stambo2A.
02:03:01.000 Thanks for having Kyle on, who asked me to come.
02:03:04.000 You're right on.
02:03:04.000 It's always a pleasure.
02:03:05.000 A wonderful opportunity to be here.
02:03:07.000 This is for sure, man.
02:03:08.000 We're changing the world.
02:03:08.000 So keep doing it.
02:03:09.000 Do your best.
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02:03:18.000 And take it away, Phil.
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