00:02:40.000James Comey has been indicted again, this time over his post on Instagram in which he said 86 47, which, depending on who you ask, means different things.
00:02:51.000Typically, it just means to strike something from an order or off a menu.
00:02:54.000So we 86 the bowl of chili, something like that.
00:02:58.000However, the origins could be eight miles out and six feet under, implying a mafia hit or to kill someone.
00:03:07.000For this reason, they've indicted Comey for threatening the president.
00:03:10.000Now, I think one of the issues that Comey has is he deleted it after the fact, saying he did not realize.
00:03:15.000Which implies the insinuation may be at least somewhat true.
00:03:19.000However, I must stress, prominent liberals and conservatives have both used this against Trump and Joe Biden.
00:03:57.000The FCC is now challenging ABC's broadcast licenses.
00:04:02.000Jimmy Kimmel made a joke that Melania looked like she had a glow of an expectant widow just before this assassination attempt.
00:04:10.000And oh boy, we got a lot more to talk about.
00:04:13.000A new poll shows that the Republicans are actually tied with Democrats in the generic ballot for the midterms.
00:04:19.000Which I don't believe for two seconds, but we're going to take a look at this poll and see what it actually means.
00:04:25.000It may be that once people on the right start checking back into politics, once they start feeling like they haven't been listened to enough and problems are arising, you might actually see Republicans get a big boost.
00:04:37.000The important thing to understand there is that while I don't think it's correct, it may just be a blip, Democrats have historically low favorability for this time in an election cycle.
00:04:46.000Typically, they should be enjoying around 10 to 15 points, but they're only at around five in one of the latest polls.
00:08:15.000I've been cranking out these infographics on news just in two seconds because it's honestly for me, but I think people probably would like it in news that way.
00:08:23.000It's crazy how fast AI is taking over all of this stuff.
00:08:26.000And here's the secret it's way better than they're letting on.
00:08:28.000The technology is substantially more advanced, but they're trickling it out.
00:08:31.000So we'll talk more about that, I'm sure.
00:08:35.000We had a great conversation, Cliff and Josh, on the pre show, the Discord members show, Timcast members on Discord come in and check it out an hour before the show.
00:08:57.000Here's the news from CNN exclusive former FBI Director James Comey indicted over alleged threat against Trump.
00:09:05.000They say the charges approved by a grand jury in the Eastern District of North Carolina, where Comey allegedly took the photo, include making a threat against the president and transmitting a threat in interstate commerce.
00:09:16.000Comey responded to the indictment Tuesday in a video posted to a Subsec account saying, I'm still innocent.
00:09:26.000The new case represents a reinvigorated effort to satisfy Trump's demands to investigate his own foes, including Comey, who he sees as a key leader in the perceived effort to weaponize the justice system against him.
00:09:38.000It comes less than a month after the president dismissed Pam Bondi.
00:09:41.000I just got to say, with the SPLC indictment, I don't know if this is Todd Blanch just taking a sledgehammer to the system in a way Pam Bondi was not, but it certainly feels like he's coming out, you know, swinging.
00:10:23.000They tried putting Trump in prison on fake charges.
00:10:26.000And there's a very difficult question you all must ask yourselves, honestly.
00:10:31.000Will you do whatever it takes to stop people who are coming after you?
00:10:35.000So, the issue is this if they're willing to create fake rape charges, fake fraud charges, if they're willing to present fake trumped up charges, 37 felonies, which never happened.
00:10:48.000I want to clarify this real quick on the falsification of business records.
00:10:51.000The allegation heard in court was that Trump never instructed his lawyer to falsify records.
00:10:59.000Cohen just Assumed that's what Trump wanted, and that is the basis for Trump's criminal activity.
00:11:05.000If that is the basis for criminally charging Trump and convicting him, why would I defend any of these people?
00:11:13.000I mean, the Biden DOJ was bringing in Trump lawyers over like jaywalking charges.
00:11:17.000So, I mean, Blanche is off to an insane start.
00:11:20.000I mean, he's having a generational month here.
00:11:22.000Again, it kind of makes you ask, like, what was Bond even really up to?
00:11:25.000I mean, this is a question a lot of people had in the really across the entire conservative space was, Like Orrin McIntyre is making this point over and over again.
00:11:32.000It's like, hey, we need to see some high profile arrests.
00:11:34.000Like, it's great that some stuff's getting done behind the scenes, but you got to, again, you got to reward the base with these sorts of things because these people, since the day Trump came down the escalator, it's been like, we're going to lock her up, et cetera, et cetera.
00:11:44.000Blanche comes out, boom, Comey charge, SPLC indictment.
00:11:48.000He's got a menu of charges for these Somali daycare fraudsters.
00:11:53.000We saw an associate of Fauci is now, you know, the DOJ is breathing down his neck.
00:11:58.000So, again, Blanche is just racking up some victories.
00:12:01.000One, yeah, you're going back at Bonnie and like, what were you doing this whole time?
00:12:03.000But B, more, I think it's more to Blanche's credit.
00:12:05.000I think he's just, this is, we finally got the right guy for the gig here.
00:12:07.000Well, I think also an issue that we're witnessing now, and I think Tim just made a great point on this, is the way to defend against the left is to use their own weaponry against them.
00:12:17.000There's a number of commentators who've made the fantastic point that, generally speaking, those who claim to be maximum empathizers, oh, I'm an empath, I have empathy, what they're really doing is not empathizing, what they're doing is projecting.
00:12:31.000You're just like me, and therefore, if you had done those things, then it would be for these reasons because that's why I would do it.
00:12:38.000So, every accusation then becomes a confession.
00:12:42.000And the reason that maximum lawfare in return works is atomic diplomacy, mutually assured destruction.
00:12:50.000That's what we saw with the Soviet versus US Cold War conflict the way to prevent World War III is you have nukes, we have more nukes.
00:13:24.000They bang the drums, yell Jim Comey's name, and then show everyone, hey, see, vote for me in the midterms, because right now the Iran thing's crushing their public support.
00:13:38.000I think the base, if the base is that strong and they're not seeing action, they might get a little frustrated.
00:13:42.000But this is for a lot of those people that I think jumped to support Trump and kind of came around, not necessarily that they were Democrat, but some of the MAHA coalition, some of the people that the lawfare pissed them off.
00:13:53.000Blanche is just rocking and rolling right now.
00:13:55.000I mean, he is really coming out showing that, yeah, you need to take action.
00:14:00.000And they're really getting to a point where if we didn't have some of this action, it was going to get really bad with a lot of people kind of bleeding out.
00:14:20.000Then when you're all out, next people come in, their DOJ is going to break the law and you're going to tell them to do it and they're going to do it.
00:14:25.000And then just let it happen because the war is out there.
00:14:29.000The war is in other countries looking at us.
00:14:31.000And so to turn it on opposing parties concerns me.
00:14:35.000Well, I think it's a beltway knife fight.
00:14:37.000I mean, that's what you're seeing right now.
00:14:38.000It's these guys that have known each other for decades are now finally turning on each other because they realize, hey, our gigs are on the line right now.
00:15:06.000We would like some red meat, some protein, please.
00:15:08.000Like, we've been eating, you know, slop for a while now.
00:15:11.000So, and there's been some great things the Trump administration is doing.
00:15:13.000But, you know, outside of that, you're starting to look around at the cabinet and you're like, okay, you know, guys, let's get some ball, you know, ball moving here.
00:15:18.000Because, again, like, Trump can only sign so many executive orders.
00:15:21.000Finally, we're seeing some consequential decisions here from the DOJ.
00:15:24.000So, the question then is Will Ed Krasenstein be criminally indicted as well?
00:15:30.000Because following this, he posted 8647.
00:15:34.000I suppose the argument they might make is that his was obviously a commentary on what Comey had said.
00:15:40.000But we also have this post from Jack Posobick in 2022 where he said 8646.
00:15:45.000The issue there, I would argue, people are going to say is he was just responding to people saying 8647 in the past in Trump's first term.
00:15:53.000So he was responding to what the left did.
00:15:54.000He's basically doing a play on the left.
00:15:56.000But the argument people are making is if you're going to go after Comey for this, you got to go after Posso and Krasnodein, everybody who's ever posted this.
00:16:03.000But basically, why I brought up the point of turning on each other is not really the way because you're allowed to type 8646 on Twitter.
00:16:32.000And I guess the question, too, is like when the Biden DOJ again was dragging right wingers into Court was, you know, canning Trump's lawyers and throwing them in court, et cetera, et cetera.
00:16:39.000Do you think they were really worried about, like, oh, what if the future Republican, you know, AG or DOJ comes after us?
00:16:45.000They were like, again, like, we have a mission, we're in power, we want to punish these perceived enemies.
00:16:50.000Because, again, they realize the left, by and large, realizes the sort of existential moment that we're in.
00:16:55.000And a lot of conservatives are asleep at the wheel and they're like, maybe if we can just get everyone to calm down, like, this system will still function as normal.
00:17:02.000Meanwhile, like, 80% of the country, for the most part, has given up on the political system.
00:17:35.000Like, yeah, rhetoric sucks, but don't start crypt, don't destroy yourself to try and fix yourself.
00:17:40.000But I think we made the point, I mean, following the shooting, that a lot of people are saying, okay, even if they weren't directly inciting violence, again, they're sort of creating this environment that does lead to violence.
00:17:49.000So at a certain point, I mean, you know, you got to start asking questions.
00:17:51.000When guys like this, that is quite frankly an explicit threat, you know, maybe if people cracked on on explicit threats towards Charlie Kirk, maybe that wouldn't have happened.
00:17:59.000You know, I was talking about the FCC thing earlier, and the issue is the snowflake doesn't blame itself for the avalanche.
00:18:08.000And so it's kind of like, you know, a cop pulls somebody who's speeding 20 miles over, he gets pulled over, and he's like, hey, everybody was speeding.
00:18:15.000And the cop goes, I can only pull over one of you.
00:18:18.000So, the issue is James Comey is the highest profile individual to make this kind of veiled threat, to push this rhetoric.
00:18:26.000If you do not stop it at the highest and most profile levels, then you are going to get 10 million more at the lower levels doing the same thing, which results in a wackaloon charging into the White House Correspondence Center trying to shoot people up.
00:18:40.000And then, this is my favorite part of the story.
00:18:43.000So, Seth Weathers made an enhanced AI version of the security footage, and he uploaded it.
00:19:40.000That's why they're moving forward to research it.
00:19:42.000But I think that they're obviously trying to use the Krasenstein or Postos tweets as like a just, it's like, well, what were the, what was the intent?
00:22:21.000There was a woman three hours before the shooting at the White House Correspondence Dinner who said, I hope it happens at the Correspondence Dinner.
00:22:28.000And then after it did, responded, I guess someone else did too.
00:23:22.000They claim they were felonies because they were in furtherance of another crime.
00:23:26.000And for the first time in history, there was no unanimous determination as to what crime Trump was trying to commit.
00:23:32.000More importantly, so that's where they go from misdemeanor to felony.
00:23:36.000Otherwise, they'd be misdemeanors and they would be beyond the statute of limitations.
00:23:40.000Here's the best part in the whole thing, though the criminal complaint, as stated in the trial, was that.
00:23:47.000Donald Trump never instructed anyone to falsify records.
00:23:52.000His lawyer, Cohen, just said, We knew that's what Trump wanted us to do.
00:23:58.000So Trump literally is accused of doing nothing but being the beneficiary of actions of somebody else.
00:24:04.000And for that, they have convicted him on 37 counts.
00:24:07.000If we are going to do nothing in response to that, you guys might as well just put out your hands right now for cuffs because they will stop at nothing to destroy you.
00:24:47.000And so, again, I'll ask you again when they arrested Trump's lawyers.
00:24:51.000You know, when they arrested Trump's lawyers for providing legal services, do we accept a reality in which Democrats go 10 times harder than we're going now?
00:25:03.000Well, I would argue that arresting someone's lawyers is probably 100 times harder than giving someone a slap on the rest of our social media posts.
00:25:10.000You were saying thugs were like kicking doors down and like under arrest for a crime we don't even know.
00:25:17.000So they arrested Trump's lawyers in several states for the simple act of providing him a legal service.
00:25:36.000And if that's the case, then, right, providing legal service is now a crime.
00:25:43.000Arresting someone's lawyers for providing a legal service is one of the most egregious things you could do.
00:25:50.000It is the definition of tyranny, it violates the Constitution, it violates human rights against a right to legal counsel.
00:25:57.000And this guy's being given a slap on the wrist charge for a social media post.
00:26:01.000If we accept a reality in which Democrats can do all the things they've done and we do nothing, again, you may as well just get on your knees right now, hold your hands up for cuffs.
00:26:10.000Even doing this and go to the SPLC is like 1% of what Democrats did.
00:26:15.000It's in the right direction, from my perspective.
00:26:18.000See, this is something that, of all people, Jack Posobic and I grappled with in the book on humans about communism, about left wing revolutionary violence, is so often the question is when does the left go too far?
00:26:31.000Well, they don't go too far, they just keep going.
00:26:35.000I think it was Curtis Yarvin who said that, from metaphorically speaking, to the right, the right is like wine snobs with alcohol, but the left is like an alcoholic with alcohol.
00:26:45.000Yeah, he said conservatives treat power the way a wine snob treats alcohol, and Democrats treat power the way an alcoholic treats alcohol.
00:26:53.000So we will, I believe the right will, as well as we may run right, don't walk, run right, as we say, as far and as fast as we may run right, I do not believe we will ever catch the left in terms of how far they are willing to go for the Furtherance of our seeking.
00:27:10.000What our position is something like prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.
00:27:16.000I would say there's something interesting happening right now in the media space.
00:27:20.000With, I actually, let's just jump straight.
00:27:23.000We have a bunch of other big, big news, but I want to jump to this one.
00:27:25.000And this matters in the conversation we're having.
00:29:58.000As social media has expanded rapidly, more and more podcasts and video producers and content creators emerge, there is a massive desperation to get views.
00:30:08.000Even the previous election cycle, there were fewer political channels, so viewership was down, but ad rates were okay.
00:30:40.000They've been booted out of every branch of government.
00:30:43.000So content targeting Trump has them all in a tizzy.
00:30:46.000Thus, you end up seeing people like Tucker Carlson all of a sudden shift, and he sustained beautiful viewership, getting a million plus per episode of his show attacking Donald Trump and Israel.
00:31:25.000Well, it's basketball right now, I think.
00:31:27.000Well, come the midterms, you are going to see a major burst in ad spending, which will trigger the algorithm to promote more political content because ad dollars are being spent on these terms.
00:31:36.000YouTube will need to fill that inventory so they will show those videos more often.
00:31:40.000Something weird is going to happen when the people who have turned on Trump encounter the return of the Republican right, moderate right, which are largely checked out right now, as we see every time.
00:32:45.000And I think that creates a new left right paradigm.
00:32:47.000I think it's a high probability that this will happen.
00:32:51.000I'd like to hear what you guys think about it.
00:32:52.000Well, first, the poll, I hope it's right at 50 50.
00:32:57.000But the reality is, I mean, everything that we're seeing, like you said, I mean, it's supposed to be 10 to 15 points.
00:33:03.000But yeah, I mean, every single race in 2025, in the off year, every special election we've had so far, I mean, the overperformance of Democrats, or you could say the underperformance of Republicans.
00:33:33.000You know, we got to get rid of this guy.
00:33:36.000But, you know, if gas starts to come down, I think that maybe we could have somewhat of an okay midterm.
00:33:42.000You know, Jessica Tarlov made a really great point.
00:33:45.000She said, On Fox News, they're complaining.
00:33:48.000They played a clip from Bill Maher's show, Club Random, where he roasted David Cross for saying his daughter's friend had a three, had no, someone who was transit three.
00:33:58.000And she said, You guys are still talking about the small room where everyone's talking about the big room.
00:34:19.000And there's not really much you can say about it.
00:34:21.000Even Trump's allies are on TV going, Well, gas prices are up, but, well, no, but, that's going to be a huge motivating factor for regular people who don't know or care about politics.
00:34:29.000They're going to be like, I don't know, gas is expensive.
00:34:33.000Economic populism in this sort of modernity is both an explainer and a predictor, accurately, who captures the economic spirit of the people the best.
00:34:44.000A future project I've finished that's going to be coming out with Rich Barris, director of Big Data Poll.
00:34:49.000The subtitle of that is What the Polls Say Young Americans Really Want.
00:34:53.000And there's a sort of a fork that we're saying.
00:34:57.000We talk in the book largely about the revolutionary spirit of under 30s and that they want to sort of just burn the whole system down because the establishment of either side has not given us what we wanted.
00:35:06.000And that fervor, unfortunately, is being vastly better appealed to by the, we like to, we've turned them the neo Bolshevist left.
00:35:16.000People burn it down, destroy it, do away with what's been done before.
00:35:20.000You know, I think more and more, I feel like I was a bit naive.
00:35:27.000Which is interesting to say because having been in this business for so long, but it really is fascinating to see the Kirk posters and Israel posters.
00:35:36.000These people who flip on a dime, right?
00:35:38.000The example that I've been using lately is Tucker Carlson, how he's like, you know, he did that show with his brother and he's like, I'm tormented.
00:35:44.000You know, I'll be tormented for having supported Trump and I apologize for misleading people.
00:36:00.000The reporting from various liberal outlets as well as corporate news was that the string attached was she wanted Israel to annex the West Bank.
00:36:09.000And that in exchange for $160 million into PAC supporting Trump, Trump would be president.
00:37:04.000We're going to make it a little less worse with making oil, hopefully, down to where it was a year ago.
00:37:08.000And the point I was trying to make is that I'll give you an example.
00:37:11.000A woman has a viral video where she said that she used to be a member of Turning Point and supported them until she found out our country was secretly controlled by a foreign government.
00:37:25.000You were just saying that because you're not going to get any social media attention or clicks otherwise.
00:37:29.000Yeah, it's a supply and demand problem.
00:37:31.000Same thing with SPLC, it's SPLC and racism and whatnot in America.
00:37:35.000Is you have to manufacture the content to then talk about it or fundraise off of it or make money off of it.
00:37:40.000And while the supply of political or the demand for political content, controversial political content, tends to be lower in the off season, so then you need to supply.
00:37:50.000You're a product in search of a market.
00:37:52.000Well, so what ends up happening though is the left has been anti Israel, anti Trump.
00:37:57.000All of a sudden now, there were conservatives and moderates in this space who were pro Trump and Israel ambivalent, maybe anti foreign funding for governments or whatever.
00:38:33.000And their audience is now being pulled in that direction as they attach themselves to the audience of Jimmy Dore, Anna Kasparian, Cenk Uecker.
00:38:43.000Inherently, but that when the Americans attacked the Iranians, you know, a month and a half ago or whatever, a month ago, I guess, it was at the discretion of the direction of the Israelis.
00:38:52.000They were like, the Israelis started a war that we then became at war because another country did it.
00:38:59.000Let me issue some caveats because you're half correct.
00:39:03.000Marco Rubio said, Israel told us they were going to go in, and if they did, we knew we would get attacks from Iran, so we decided we would go in with them.
00:39:13.000That is a fair point that Israel decided to jump the gun.
00:39:17.000And the US was basically like, okay, well, then we're in this.
00:39:20.000That being said, if you take a look at the military operations leading up to what Israel planned to do, I think it's fairly obvious the US was planning on going to Iran.
00:39:28.000The aircraft carriers were already en route.
00:39:30.000And we took Venezuela and surrounded Cuba.
00:39:32.000So it looked like, and we already knew this, the US was gearing up for some kind of action in the Gulf.
00:39:38.000Then Israel makes a move, and the US says, okay, we're going in.
00:39:41.000You think of it as like a military action, unified military action, joint operation, that the Israelis probably had some info, and they're like, yo, we can't wait.
00:39:48.000We get 140 of their top leaders right now if we go.
00:39:54.000And I mean, also, the reason Iran has the leverage to hit U.S. assets is because we've already sort of put a pincer in on Iran for decades now.
00:40:01.000I mean, all these different foreign entanglements we've ended up in the Middle East.
00:40:04.000In addition to that, yeah, built up the largest armada like in American history right on Iran's doorstep.
00:40:09.000So it's like, although it's true that Israel jumped the gun, it's not like we were just sitting at home and we had the scramble.
00:40:13.000It's like, no, all of our assets are in place already.
00:42:49.000We knew exactly what Trump was about the whole time.
00:42:52.000So people coming out now being like, I can't believe this is happening, they are lying.
00:42:56.000As for the Iran war and where we're at, these people who are now all of a sudden shocked that we'd been putting troops in the region that Trump said we would never allow them to have nuclear weapons, that we made moves against Venezuela.
00:43:09.000These people are not serious when they're saying these things.
00:43:12.000I think some of them maybe might have believed Trump at his word when he said, I won't get us into another war, maybe, which is like, duh, come on.
00:43:21.000That's only a technicality in that we all did argue that Trump was the anti war candidate because he didn't start a new war in his first term.
00:44:42.000We at this show, I as well as everybody here have maintained basically the same stance on everything pertaining to the Middle East warfare, Donald Trump the whole time.
00:45:01.000And Charlie Kirk even said, we shouldn't do it.
00:45:03.000And then when he did, he said, listen, I'll stand with my president on this one.
00:45:08.000This is the measured, reasonable, honest approach.
00:45:11.000Now you have all of these commentators.
00:45:14.000Acting like all of a sudden they've been surprised by it.
00:45:16.000No, they are grifters and they are liars.
00:45:19.000One thing I want to add is that the frustration that we're seeing and hearing, particularly amongst under 35 or so, particularly under 40, but generally you see it more and more under 35, under 30, is what seems to be a misalignment between foreign policy of the United States and domestic policy.
00:45:36.000And it seems like, why are we doing all these things over here?
00:45:49.000One of the most consequential moves made in the benefit of the populist right in the history of this country.
00:45:56.000I don't think, I think the challenge is you say Epstein, everyone knows the story.
00:46:01.000It's salacious, high profile, it's international.
00:46:04.000So they want a nuclear bomb on the Epstein stuff.
00:46:06.000And Trump did not deliver, and that's bad.
00:46:09.000However, USAID is substantially worse, not in terms of the crimes.
00:46:14.000We all get Epstein did demonic things and worse.
00:46:17.000I'm saying the scale of USAID cycling money through these various law firms, NGOs to create a Permanent political class and Trump nuked it off the map.
00:46:48.000It is a supply and demand issue in media.
00:46:50.000People don't understand USAID because it's hard to parse all of the networking and data points of the Permanent political class.
00:46:57.000I think if you want to create a moral boost, you want to create a spectacle, like a public works or something.
00:47:04.000I wonder, because if we are going to expend so much effort and money geopolitically to destroy and control, we really should be investing all those resources or a lot of them into the United States to make it like a spire.
00:47:16.000Rather than try and seize what we need, build what's better and let them buy it from us.
00:47:20.000Well, I'll say it again to Tate's point where people are claiming there's no plan despite this being like a 30, 40 year plan.
00:47:27.000The It's fairly obvious what the effects are that's happening with the war in Iran.
00:47:33.000That is, the U.S. has now become a net exporter of oil for the first time since World War II, one of the largest oil exporters in the planet.
00:47:41.000China's been cut off, and East Asia is days away from being forced to drop their consumption to fuel minimum.
00:47:52.000China, principally, in a few days will have to go into emergency distribution levels.
00:47:59.000So, whatever you think Trump is doing or why he's doing it, by all means, again, you are allowed to say Trump's an idiot, you don't like him, and the plan's bad, fine.
00:48:05.000I'm just saying, when you look at the results of Venezuela, Iran, and China, it certainly looks like something intentional is being done.
00:48:16.000I don't know who's going to be running.
00:48:17.000JD Vance, Gavin Newsom, you know, a couple of high profile guys.
00:48:22.000Can the Republican Party win without a promising, positive message for the future about some new technology, like a real Tangible change in people's lives.
00:48:32.000I don't know if it can, if it's just back and forth, back and forth.
00:48:35.000I don't see any other way than techno communism on the horizon.
00:48:38.000It's kind of the problem with political movements.
00:48:40.000You have a 14, 16 year cap, and we just saw this with Orban about 14, 16 years, that's when a new sort of slate of voters come in.
00:49:01.000I'm just sort of saying this as a warning.
00:49:03.000Is that as someone that believes in the viability of MAGA, going to 2028, all right, now the composition of voters is vastly different than 2016.
00:49:11.000A lot of those people don't remember what things were like before then.
00:49:14.000And they might just start to say, I don't know what this OMAC, I think there's some problems here.
00:49:17.000And to your point, you're making a good point, is that there's kind of this tendency in the conservative commentary, especially to over intellectualize how voters think.
00:49:52.000I mean, again, this is, I'm sorry, if you don't like Trump, this is the U.S. system breaking an energy cartel and taking over.
00:50:02.000And one potential hypothesis is that the liberal economic order or the new world order that H.W. Bush called it was adhering to OPEC and creating this global standard.
00:50:13.000And Trump just smashed it with a sledgehammer and has put the U.S. on top.
00:50:17.000Well, I mean, so you have the UAE bailing.
00:50:46.000This is a guy that's like a total New World Order apparatchik, as far as like this is a guy that really believes in the way the system works.
00:50:53.000He worked in England for years, et cetera, et cetera.
00:50:55.000He came out and very somberly said, The world order as we knew it, the Western aligned American led world order is dead.
00:51:03.000It's effectively every man for himself.
00:51:05.000And I think that was like kind of one of the most underrated comments made this year because that's actually really incisive.
00:51:10.000Grant, he's mourning the death of it, but for us, that just shows that Trump has single handedly completely upended the 21st century consensus.
00:52:23.000When the price gets too high, then, sure, well, we can make a profit off of that, but no one can actually pay for it, so it constrains the system.
00:52:31.000If we can't, he's like, the profit margins might stay the same.
00:52:35.000That's the problem with OPEC being able to tell the United States, screw you, we're going to dump and pump, or we're going to put a hold on it.
00:52:42.000So Trump just nuked that whole system.
00:52:53.000Whether it was with Doge and USAID or any of these foreign policy victories or the sort of the explanation required, it's not exactly been, at least not to my knowledge, it's not been compacted into a text free meme that captures the sentiment that then motivates under 30s to say, I'm voting for Republicans.
00:53:17.000Well, I think the challenge is social media right now, the Erica Kirk stuff is a really great example of what appears to be an op.
00:53:27.000The RPM on Erica Kirk content is as high as finance, which makes literally no sense as to why the algorithm would do that or why people would.
00:53:36.000The alternative theory is that someone is intentionally putting millions of dollars behind the search term Erica Kirk, which makes no sense.
00:53:52.000My hypothesis is that the Erica Kirk thing is content that's filling a niche of like this true crime hyperdrama that is largely listened to by women.
00:54:01.000That's true, but that doesn't explain why advertising dollars are placed against her name.
00:54:06.000It doesn't, if that were the case, then the ad rates should be low because of high volume.
00:54:12.000So, if you, when you have these shows that talk about Erica Kirk getting tons and tons of views, that means competition against that term is high.
00:54:19.000And that means everyone's bids go, or actually, it can go either way.
00:54:23.000But if you have a massive volume of content, then the competition is low, meaning if I want to advertise on Erica Kirk, I've got 75 different podcasts to choose from.
00:54:34.000Finance is expensive because financial advisors are scarce.
00:54:38.000There's very few high profile financial shows.
00:54:41.000That means if a bank or wealth management company wants to advertise, not only is their customer base small because very few people need those services, but their choices in podcasts are small as well.
00:54:51.000So you'll get, say, company A, company B, they both try to buy an ad for $100 on a podcast, and the guy says, Well, he's offered me $100.
00:55:37.000So if you're a wealth manager, for instance, A client for wealth management generates a lot of money for that firm, whereas, you know, selling a cheeseburger is going to be minimal margins.
00:55:46.000So then, of course, the ads are worth a lot more and the inventory is a lot less.
00:55:51.000The incongruity with Erica Kirk is that there's massive viewership on a term that doesn't sell a product.
00:55:56.000Erica Kirk, as a search term, does not sell products.
00:56:00.000So I will just say this this is the internal reporting and inside baseball conversations I've had with other people who produce content, explaining how videos they've done referencing Erica Kirk generate more money in a critical sense than content in other areas.
00:56:14.000Which does not make sense in my experience.
00:56:17.000It would imply that someone is intentionally going on Google Ads and saying, I'm going to spend $10 million on things related to Erica Kirk, which I don't get.
00:56:26.000The other argument, however, is that advertisers are not doing it and that YouTube has intentionally weighted their algorithm to shift ad dollars in that direction.
00:56:35.000There is a non conspiratorial argument that content related to Erica Kirk is just, to your point about true crime, it has a higher retention rate and sells more lipstick.
00:56:45.000And maybe YouTube unintentionally is like, if we're getting more clip through and we're selling more ads and they're competing like crazy.
00:56:54.000But I got to be honest, that's not the simple solution.
00:56:57.000The simple solution would be high volume content has cheap ads, not high volume content has high volume ads.
00:57:39.000Erica Kirk has taken over Turning Point USA and is trying to run what is left of Charlie's legacy, which.
00:57:46.000Rallies young people to vote Republican, and it is being destroyed by two things.
00:57:53.000One, prominent personalities who flipped in a dime and are trying to tear it down, but also a YouTube algorithm that is promoting attacks against Turning Point.
00:58:02.000Who would benefit from making other people get pissed off at that content?
00:58:24.000Now it's going massively viral that because she, someone filmed on, because at the dinner somebody was filming the room and she looked at the camera, they go, she knew.
00:58:37.000And I think it's because they want people that are tightly wound and that know what's going on politically, that have the momentum, like Mike Cerno, you know, you, Tim.
00:58:45.000They want those people to be talking about Erica Kirk, which no one will identify with in the general election or in the midterms.
00:58:53.000Fixing the economy, changing the economy, giving people hope, being a lighthouse.
00:58:57.000I talk about this and I want to talk about it in a non facetious way.
00:59:00.000I really, if you guys think this is possible, because you have a book about people going right, about people becoming more conservative, empowering, I don't know, the Republican Party, I imagine, involving the Republican Party.
00:59:10.000If we brought a message, I talk about graphene, a new technology, a 21st century fascinating technology, a potential new fuel source.
00:59:28.000I have a question for Trump, his administration.
00:59:32.000Why are they allowing this explosive anti Trump virality?
00:59:37.000Trump tweeting against Tucker Carlson does nothing effective.
00:59:40.000We talk about how going after Comey is fire with fire, but the Trump administration is certainly not doing what the establishment left did, putting pressure on social media companies.
00:59:49.000Well, and that's the most frustrating part.
00:59:50.000I mean, kind of to what we were talking about with Iran, is the happiest.
00:59:54.000I mean, this is like, If you're a young person, it's very demoralizing because, okay, you have the first prong, which we've talked about, kind of the way that, you know, the social media, you know, sphere is operating right now.
01:00:04.000But then, like, you have, like, Mark Levin, John Potter, it's like these guys are like clapping, like, Seals.
01:00:08.000Brett Stevens is in the New York Times, like, you know, a broken clock is right twice a day.
01:00:14.000So you just see that, and you're like literally like the worst people in, like, the world, like, lining up to, like, endorse this action.
01:00:19.000You just see that, and you're just like, that's, that's why, that's the, I think the fundamental issue is that you're just like rewarding, like, some of these people that hate your guts.
01:00:27.000And that's what's especially frustrating about it.
01:00:30.000And then you add that on top of what you're hitting on, which is absolutely what's going on these people that have flipped on Trump are operating in an incentive structure that has existed and rewarded people for 10 years now, which is if you attack Trump, if you hate Trump, you will be rewarded.
01:01:08.000But my point is I was saying two years ago, we made the joke it would be so much easier just to go full anti Trump.
01:01:14.000And just soak in all those retard views and make a ton of money.
01:01:17.000Well, it looks like some people have decided to do that.
01:01:18.000Yeah, if I think about it from the mindset of like a Swiss banker is like, I got to get these Americans, we got to get this American thing gone so that we can corporatize the world.
01:01:27.000If I can get their political elite, and I'm talking about you, Tim, if we can get the people that actually know what's going on politically to fight each other and ignore the globalist technocracy enroachment, that would be a win.
01:01:39.000Because people like Tim, like we need you focusing on the big picture, not Erica Kirk.
01:01:45.000So, That's where I think it's coming from, anyway.
01:01:49.000I want to go back to one of Tim's points that I didn't really understand when you were saying it, but the USAID stuff and them drowning that out.
01:01:57.000You guys asked, do we have a shot in 26 or 28 on the Republican side?
01:02:01.000The ramifications of all of those NGOs and all the nonprofits, the 501c3s, the 501c4s.
01:02:14.000But they don't have the type of resources and money.
01:02:17.000I mean, this is the important thing to understand about USAID and the massive victory that Trump secured with this.
01:02:22.000Billions of dollars were funneled through USAID to various nonprofits and NGOs who would then make contributions to other NGOs who would pay the salaries of prominent lawyers and make donations to political action committees who would then create a permanent political class in the United States.
01:03:20.000And what we talk about in the book is that the unelected managerial class, we call them the NGO administrative complex, the ideology, the philosophy that they hold to at its core is something called supranationalism, which is this idea that you are a, you've all heard this before, citizen of the world.
01:03:41.000If you look at their ideological writings and what is it they're devoted to, it's this idea, we can call it like late stage liberalism or classical liberal maximalism.
01:03:50.000It's this idea that Every human everywhere on earth is equal.
01:03:55.000Those who are oppressed are entitled to more mercy than those who are not.
01:03:59.000Therefore, we need to focus our efforts on those populations around the world that have less access to democracy.
01:04:05.000All democracy building under the conservatives didn't work.
01:04:09.000So, the mass migration of third worlders into the United States and into the Western world is a direct result of supranationalism.
01:04:16.000And that same ideology is in order to protect this global democracy, which when they say our democracy, more so what they mean is.
01:04:25.000Our power to provide democracy to the third world into places that we believe don't have it.
01:04:33.000That's what they mean when they say our democracy.
01:04:37.000And therefore, they need to have power, elected or unelected or not.
01:04:41.000And so, to President Trump's credit by the Doge Project and the revelation that this is being put on, I wonder if Trump's gambit is that they cannot win without the NGO industrial complex.
01:04:57.000So, after USAID was dismantled, Lee Zeldin exposed something like $7 billion awarded to a nonprofit that was formed only a month prior.
01:05:07.000Very interesting how the government was funneling billions to liberal nonprofits this way.
01:05:12.000The thing then is, you can clean that money up.
01:05:15.000The belief is that this is how they would keep a cycle of your tax dollars in the political machine, propping up.
01:05:22.000And it wasn't just Democrats back in the day, it was the uniparty establishment.
01:05:52.000There is a possibility, although I'm going to say it right now, guys, I fully expect Republicans to lose.
01:05:56.000But in the event they actually win, I would go, wow, the USAID stuff, the manipulation was crazier than we realized.
01:06:02.000Seems like they're moving to crypto pretty fast now.
01:06:04.000I think that's the way out of the, what do you call it, the Federal Reserve System, is to start up a US banking central bank.
01:06:10.000Currency, which is terrifying because it's on a blockchain to be tracked.
01:06:13.000You know, trackable money is pretty antithetical to the freedom of movement.
01:06:17.000What does that have to do with what we're talking about?
01:06:18.000Well, that's how the government is now that they've smashed up USAID, they're going to try and transition away from this old world, new world order into a new new world order that's going to be an American led technocracy is through crypto.
01:06:28.000But what does that have to do with the government had an apparatus that took taxpayer dollars and gave it to Democrats?
01:06:34.000USAID was a Federal Reserve system thing, it was an old guard financial.
01:06:38.000I think what you're saying is that it did what the argument is well, that system did not have enough.
01:06:43.000Power, there was a single gate that if you close it, the treasury, I think that's how Mustang is on it.
01:06:49.000I mean, if they go to Bitcoin or CBDC, there's a public ledger.
01:06:54.000If they do a Fed coin and the ledger is still privately held, then one could argue that, like the Federal Reserve, will never audit it, perhaps.
01:07:01.000But then you're just arguing nothing changes.
01:07:04.000The structure changes, but the system stays the same.
01:07:06.000The Federal Reserve reports to the Swiss Bank for International Settlements.
01:07:19.000That's why, didn't he just recently say crypto is the future and he's going to protect it?
01:07:23.000That would be interesting if he breaks the liberal economic order, swift payment system, all that stuff by switching to a decentralized crypto network.
01:07:30.000Yeah, they wanted Ripple to be the global currency, I think, but it looks like it's going to be Bitcoin.
01:08:42.000So, the quick rundown on the process of writing this is how it is typically with my co authors on these projects there's some sort of initial source of the data.
01:08:52.000So, of course, Cliff has been teaching this stuff, we're doing workshops for years.
01:08:55.000So, he's got the slideshows, he's got the notes, he's got time on the phone with me.
01:08:59.000And so, what I did is like kind of compiled the structure of how do you go from, hmm, I'm thinking about running to, Holy bleep, I actually just won.
01:09:10.000What is the step by step with no step skipped process?
01:09:12.000What is the system that you can repeat across districts, across elections, local, state, federal, to actually win?
01:09:20.000Yeah, we do candidate academies, and people always laugh, but I spend most of my time trying to talk people out of running for office because we don't like people that run, waste their time, waste their money.
01:09:31.000And it's like a lot of people that are like, hey, I want to do good, I want to get involved, I'm pissed off on Twitter, and I was watching Tim Cass, and those guys are nuts.
01:09:39.000So I want to go and I want to actually run for office.
01:09:43.000They have no idea what they're walking into.
01:09:45.000And the number one way that people fail is they think that they're going to go out and they have the perfect message.
01:09:52.000And this political game, I walk through all the different fundraising and kind of the dollars you need to be able to raise, not because I like that, right?
01:09:59.000It's kind of grimy, it's sleazeball y.
01:10:01.000Nobody likes to raise money or beg people for money, but that's what the establishment has.
01:10:38.000But the money really is used to buy publicity, is my suggestion.
01:10:42.000Look, if you were to tell me when to run for Congress, okay, most people, if they were to be polled, For name ID in their district, okay, if you poll the actual people that are going to vote, they're going to have 0% name ID.
01:10:57.000The amount of money it costs, let's say you're in a Republican primary, 80,000 voters are going to vote.
01:11:01.000The amount of money it's going to cost for you to go from 0% name ID to having a chance to win in an open race, you're not going against an incumbent.
01:11:11.000I mean, we're talking $8 to $10 million is what you, if you ran as a patriot, would have to spend.
01:11:49.000But the playbook for them is if somebody that ran that was an actual Freedom Caucus person was a threat, They will spend between five to ten million dollars in the last two months of the race, all negative on the Patriot that's running.
01:12:27.000Her choice and how she got attention is her choice, but she certainly knew how to launch a nuclear bomb in the media and still does.
01:12:33.000The point is, these candidates have no idea how to do it, so they have to go to someone like Laura and pay her and say, How can I get people to recognize my name and hear about this?
01:12:40.000But there are some people who don't need to do that.
01:13:34.000I mean, she's got a lot of recognition in her district, but 99% of the money that she and Ilhan Omar get come from outside their districts.
01:13:40.000I want to shout out Thomas Massey, who's in a race right now, and I know there's a lot of money that's been put up against him.
01:13:44.000You were saying earlier, like, I saw earlier he was winning 70% three weeks ago, and I'm like, Massey dominates everything he does.
01:14:11.000But yeah, it's millions of dollars that they're spending against him to try to kick him out.
01:14:17.000So, what are the steps in this book or elsewhere that you take to defeat that?
01:14:22.000I think the best way to think about this book is it's like a marketing funnel for a personal brand with a call to action B go to this place at a specific time on this day, and with your finger, however you do it, with a little checkbox next to my name.
01:14:37.000So, if it's marketing, if it's sales, if it's PR, if it's whatever, that's actually what to do.
01:14:41.000How do you go from don't know who you are to you're actually on the ballot?
01:14:48.000People feel good about the product because it's an identity based choice.
01:14:52.000So, some of the early stages are actually about creating a persuasive message so that when people see your name on that ballot or they hear your name, they think, oh, yeah, he's the guy or he's the gal who.
01:15:02.000These are these three issues that I think about in the constellation with their word cloud.
01:15:06.000Imagine the word cloud, I think of the person's name, the word cloud of what words are on the person's name.
01:15:12.000That's what I believe in, stand for, and value and want in my county, country, city, state, et cetera.
01:15:17.000I would say the biggest thing we're trying to do is stop wasting time.
01:15:21.000There are so many candidates that just spend all this time.
01:15:24.000They're looking at every single comment online, right?
01:15:27.000And they're responding because they think everybody's seeing this.
01:15:29.000And it's like, no, there's three people that saw that.
01:15:31.000None of them are voting for you because they're friends with the opponent.
01:15:35.000So this is like 10 years of just doing campaigns, take the lessons that I've learned and just trying to give it to people that are of the same ideological ilk.
01:15:55.000There is absolutely such a thing as bad press.
01:15:57.000And for the sake of the families listening, I will keep this.
01:16:00.000I will just say, actually, I should say that for the after show, but I'll say, I would say it in a more crude way, but have relations with a pig in Times Square and tell me how the press did for you.
01:17:20.000Well, we talked about a lot of that in the book.
01:17:23.000Basically, like you talked about earlier about creating some sort of an on ramp to ascendant in your life and your career for Americans specifically.
01:17:29.000We actually have a whole chapter, no, like three chapters just that in the book.
01:17:40.000He was like, How is it possible that when I decide to go to Rome, Candace Owens abruptly announces a last minute vacation to Rome at the same time and no one is going to believe me?
01:17:51.000I thought that was really funny because, no, Nick, I don't believe you.
01:17:53.000Like, there's no way that's a coincidence.
01:17:59.000That's why it's tricky because it's like, look, there's so much frustration with the boomers, and I'll be the first person to state a lot of that, et cetera, et cetera.
01:18:07.000But also, if you're just looking at it from a political perspective, the coalitions that the Republican Party is going to have to stitch together to win elections when the boomers die off are going to be a total disaster.
01:18:18.000Like, if you think this coalition, the MAGA coalition, was like fractured, is fractured and was tough to stitch together, wait till you get to a generation that's like 50% white, like 20% Christian.
01:18:43.000Where we are right now is entering what they call the mortality shelf.
01:18:46.000When a generation reaches 79, or it's when they reach life expectancy, so if it goes up or down, but 79 is life expectancy on average for an American.
01:18:54.000And boomers are now a little bit older than that.
01:18:57.000So, I think actually Trump is the oldest boomer.
01:18:59.000So, they are literally hitting right now what's called the mortality shelf.
01:19:02.000We are expected to see something like more than half, maybe 60% of boomers will die off in the next five years, 10 years.
01:20:16.000What is the moral framework right now that 12 year olds have?
01:20:21.000I will argue this conservatives have substantially more children than liberals do.
01:20:27.000However, they are bringing in substantially more illegal immigrants and non Americans.
01:20:32.000So it may very well just be that in six years, you are going to have Nick Fuentes versus AOC.
01:20:39.000I think what the Democratic Party realized sometime around the victory of Barack Obama, as a lesson from the 2008 victory, was his coalition of supporters was primarily ethnic.
01:20:50.000And that if we promise these various ethnic and other interest groups the thing that they want, then it's relatively easy to get them.
01:20:58.000And so I believe that's why the importation of voters, you're creating the birthright citizenship, you basically create something like a loyal coalition based on ethnicity or tribe or some sort of interest group.
01:21:09.000Whereas Republicans have appealed to nostalgia.
01:21:12.000Go to any county or city GOP group, 90% of all the people who show up are boomers.
01:21:20.000At least two thirds of them are women, female boomers.
01:22:03.000Uh, it just there's a variety of factors.
01:22:06.000I think that there's two problems with that emerging.
01:22:09.000A lot of people like that I know are banking on that happening, but there's two problems is that one, settler colonies typically have a tougher time sort of building a movement like that.
01:22:17.000Like these are actually you can find these in Europe, like throughout the continent, are like sort of identitarian movements.
01:22:24.000The problem in the United States is twofold one, You still have more recent Ellis Islanders that identify with their core group.
01:22:36.000And two, if you look at other settler colonies who are further down the road, so to speak, like South Africa, yes, there are white identitarians there, but the vast majority of white South Africans are still committed to the idea of post racialism.
01:22:50.000But I got to push back on that because the issue with South Africa is that by the time apartheid ended, it was 8% white, 92% non white.
01:22:57.000Apartheid, and even then, they were still like living in places that all they could see around them was white people.
01:23:02.000But what I'm saying by that is, again, as the white share decreases, that doesn't guarantee that like white people all of a sudden start to, you know, uh, I didn't say that I didn't say that all white people were going to come together and say we're white people, but say this would be a large white identitarian movement.
01:23:17.000It could be, it's just I don't know if like them again, I don't know if the white share of the population means that people will start to like uh petition for their ethnic groups' interests necessarily because there's something intrinsic to white people where they just don't really do that.
01:23:30.000I mean, you see this all across the west.
01:23:39.000And then, yeah, by the time apartheid ended, I think, yeah.
01:23:42.000So the issue with that is it's a fundamentally different system when you have the end of segregation in South Africa and the country is 12% white.
01:23:52.000So the United States, it is, what is it, 69, 67% white right now?
01:24:22.000These, bro, I am, again, not saying the majority of America is going to wake up one day as wedded Ontarians.
01:24:28.000I'm saying there's going to be a large movement.
01:24:30.000And I think it's probably cheap to say because there already technically is one, but I'm saying it's going to be more prominent in the political space.
01:24:35.000Yeah, I mean, I could see like a sizable segment of the Republican Party probably does at least conceptualize it in that way.
01:24:44.000And I think what you're saying is that down the road, people will actually like express this movement.
01:24:47.000I'm saying that when Nick, Is 36 or 40 years old, and he is a bigger following.
01:24:54.000He is going to have a sizable chunk of voters that are.
01:24:58.000I don't want to say that they're like the Groypers are like their core identity is white identitarian, but it certainly is an element of their political worldview.
01:25:08.000I've watched Nick kind of de radicalize over since Charlie was killed, especially.
01:25:26.000Like, white identitarian is an element of his worldview.
01:25:29.000I'm open to that debate, but I've seen him chill.
01:25:32.000So it might be that he's like the off ramp for 80,000 screaming, raging dudes that are like.
01:25:37.000Well, didn't Charlie Kirk himself say that actually?
01:25:39.000That if you replaced all white Christian Americans, or at least Americans with Indians who still had the same values and same Christianity, that that would no longer be America?
01:26:07.000And part of me thinks, well, maybe that was, you know, electorally we'd see it, but I think it still consists, there's still, it still continues.
01:26:15.000There is this white guilt out there, and I think there's going to have to be some pushback.
01:26:20.000I can't stand white people doing this.
01:26:22.000The guilt was coming from SPLC, and it's like, You're getting a rash from like black mold, say.
01:26:26.000If you freak out at the rash and you start scratching it because, like, white identity, we need to strengthen whiteness.
01:26:32.000That's like, you got to remove the black mold.
01:27:03.000So they get on their boats, they go to Korea and just rape and massacre everybody.
01:27:06.000The Koreans are getting mercilessly beaten and shot.
01:27:09.000And then one Korean guy looks at the other Korean guys that are in chains and he goes, You know, you know what I realized?
01:27:14.000We are all intrinsically better than them.
01:27:17.000Each and every Asian culture is racially and ethnically supremacist to themselves.
01:27:23.000And I'm half kidding about that being a good thing, but there is something to say about the Korean people outright saying, These people came and raped and abused us, and we are better than they are, and we adhere to a Korean identity.
01:27:36.000And Japan, which, to be fair, they've opened the door to immigration, and there's a bunch of crazy stuff going on there.
01:27:42.000But in America and in Europe, like in literally Europe, where white people are indigenous, you've got half the white people being like, I just plain don't like white people.
01:27:51.000And I'm like, okay, well, you know what I don't like about white people?
01:29:09.000Because these people, the trope among the left is that they all hate all other races.
01:29:16.000When actually, this considered themselves race realist and would make the argument that individuals are fine if the individual has admirable characteristics.
01:29:23.000However, certain races behave in certain ways.
01:30:33.000Yeah, because if you think about what black communities are, they're not arguing norms on exceptions.
01:30:37.000And this is the point that people like about Nick and why they follow him is that all the people who follow him recognize that if you're in Chicago and you go into a black neighborhood, you are likely going to be in a high crime neighborhood and you're going to be threatened with violence.
01:30:51.000This is like a well known thing for people who grew up in the area.
01:31:05.000You go to the suburbs of Chicago, you go to the suburbs of any major city, and all the white people there are going to say the exact same thing Nick is, but they'll whisper it.
01:31:25.000And we know what they're saying when they say that.
01:31:27.000You know, we do, in fact, have white identitarian enclaves in the United States, and they also are predisposed to possession of white guilt.
01:33:09.000So, what happens when you have a media apparatus of white guilt people being like, you can't say those things?
01:33:14.000YouTube would ban you for having said this in 2017.
01:33:17.000In fact, I think it was Tommy Robinson who got suspended on X for posting crime stats.
01:33:22.000Yeah, you need to be able to say these things.
01:33:24.000You need to be able to say, make the statement, which I disagree with, that it's the black people's color that is making them.
01:33:32.000And then you need to have, you need to let them say it so that someone comes and says, actually, it's a correlation.
01:33:38.000And then you can have the debate and figure out the nuances in racialism and race realism and, you know, racism and like, and to Nick's credit, he said, It doesn't mean an individual black person is bad or inherently a criminal or whatever, but as far as it matters for any individual person, is it meaningful to them when you say, don't judge the neighborhood based on the racial composition of it?
01:34:03.000Is that going to positively or negatively affect them?
01:34:06.000The reality is in Chicago, while it's fine to say that just because they're black doesn't mean they're criminals, I agree with that, but if you told someone, go into any neighborhood and don't let the racial composition sway you from believing it's safe or unsafe, Well, these people are going to walk in neighborhoods where they're going to get shot, killed, raped, stabbed, or otherwise.
01:34:24.000It's kind of like a dude in the military in the combat zone explaining to a civilian what you got to look out for.
01:34:30.000Like that kid who's carrying a basket, that, and the person's like, little kids?
01:34:36.000Like, do you know what it's like living where I live in the battle zone?
01:34:39.000And these dudes in the south side are literally facing life and death and feel like, hey, that gang, all those dudes have dark, you know, black skin, whatever, or whatever.
01:34:56.000It's a combat tactic, survival tactic.
01:34:58.000That's why I respect, you know, the only people in this whole like leftist coalition I respect are like the gentrifiers because they're like pushing into bedstai and they're just like cannon fodder, just like going in there, just getting like mowed down all the time.
01:35:10.000But they're like, no, I'm committed to this post racial thing.
01:35:14.000And they're getting like stabbed all the time with it.
01:35:16.000Like, they're the only ones I respect that actually like believe what they say.
01:35:18.000Everyone else like lives in Vermont or they live in West, like Westchester County.
01:35:23.000Like, none of them put their money where their mouth is except for those brave few.
01:35:26.000Vice riders who just like trudge and it's like the jaws of into the jaws of death painting, just like hopping off the Fulton Street station.
01:35:56.000I went on to our good friend ChatGPT and I said, Are black neighborhoods more dangerous in Chicago?
01:36:02.000Short answer crime in Chicago varies a lot by neighborhood, and some higher crime areas happen to be majority black, but race isn't the cause.
01:36:14.000Some neighborhoods in Chicago that have higher crime rates are predominantly black, but not all black neighborhoods are high crime.
01:36:19.000I said, I didn't ask if all black neighborhoods are high crime.
01:36:22.000I'm asking if black neighborhoods have a higher crime on average than others.
01:36:25.000Yes, in Chicago, neighborhoods that are majority black have higher average violent crime rates than majority white neighborhoods when you look at the data.
01:36:33.000It sounds like an argument I would have with you.
01:36:35.000And this is the point I'm making about someone like Nick.
01:36:38.000A working class white guy in the suburbs of Chicago knows this.
01:36:42.000He knows that if he walks into a black neighborhood, except for Hyde Park, which is very nice, he is likely going to get threatened.
01:37:07.000And then Nick Fuentes laughs and says, everybody knows it's true.
01:37:10.000And the white working class guy goes, yep.
01:37:13.000The future of, let's say, race relations in the United States, most likely as the boomers who grew up with the end of segregation being this sort of humanitarian success story, this great celebration of integration and whatnot, as kind of their foundational myth.
01:37:29.000As that generation dies off, we're having a return to tribalism because there are just so many tribes in the United States now via immigration and via the internet and everyone kind of forming into their tribe.
01:37:41.000But what is likely to happen, I believe, is that white people included, Will begin to talk about themselves like black people talk about black people.
01:37:49.000Just spend 15 minutes listening to any popular black podcast and the way that they talk about their own race and each other.
01:38:07.000I think educated white people in the country tend to want to disassociate with any type of white supremacist group or movement or whatever because they tend to be just so cringe.
01:38:20.000The founder has almost every square inch of his body with some sort of a tattoo on it and a criminal record, as about as varied as the number of tattoos.
01:39:46.000It's like making a bad situation even worse by just you being here and doing this when you don't understand what the actual issues are.
01:39:53.000But the future, I believe again, is watch any popular black podcast.
01:39:57.000And the young generation, the 12 year olds that you guys are talking about, who are going to be of age at the next election that we're discussing, they will talk about race the exact same way black podcasters do because for the first time they have exposure to it via viral clips and TikToks.
01:40:14.000And one of the most popular black TikToks is this following subject White people be like.
01:40:21.000And if you look at white people, let's watch it.
01:40:23.000Just go to TikTok, white people be like.
01:40:25.000And you will watch a few of those and you'll go.
01:41:34.000And you're like, you're watching this and you're like, he certainly is making fun of that mid six figures dad who's got a nice house in the suburbs.
01:41:40.000You know, there might be a move towards like identifying more with your genetic heritage, but I think supremacy is insane across the board because like no race is supreme.
01:42:19.000And then the ones that like have, like you'll meet these dudes, they come out of prison, they have like a swastika like carved in their forehead, and they're like, yeah, the black guys are prison.
01:42:26.000Like the guys you would expect are like totally off the wall.
01:42:30.000And then, yeah, the hardcore white supremacists are always like, yeah, I'm Mexican or like, yeah, I'm, yeah, they're visibly not white.
01:42:37.000And in this particular case, It was a conversation I was having.
01:42:40.000And the things that she had said, I would imagine, like some sort of neo Nazi manifesto would say about white people and the white race and continually saying that.
01:42:48.000I'm like, I'm just feeling so uncomfortable.
01:42:50.000But am I, then like white guilt, right?
01:42:53.000Am I going to go and I'm, am I going to now disagree with a lived experience of a black immigrant?
01:43:07.000Probably one of the, it was, It was along those lines.
01:43:10.000She was specifically referring to the white Christian missionaries and Christian missionaries who had come to Haiti where she was growing up.
01:43:17.000And she said things like, Yes, the only people who showed me unconditional love are the whites.
01:44:18.000Like some of those most explicitly, like you would clock as like white.
01:44:23.000Supremacist talking points or whatever will come from like people in these like decolonized regions and they're like, please, can the British just come back already?
01:45:57.000They said, don't worry, one of the Harmon brothers will make it.
01:46:00.000And then, abruptly, just before we were supposed to do the show on Friday, they canceled.
01:46:05.000And then I was going to announce the cancellation.
01:46:08.000They then said, How about we do it on Monday?
01:46:09.000And I said, Oh, okay, I want to announce cancellation.
01:46:11.000Sure enough, then Monday I told my team, No, they canceled Monday as well.
01:46:15.000So Riley Gaines posted this My husband and I got early access screening to Animal Farm, an animated adaptation of George Orwell's novel made by Angel Studios.
01:47:09.000Instead of giving the money to the rest of the animals to buy things the farm needs, the pigs go to the mall and buy things for themselves.
01:47:14.000The animals get angry that the pigs are taking all the profit for themselves, despite the fact they do the labor.
01:47:19.000Napoleon the pig gets in credit card debt.
01:47:22.000So he cuts a deal with Elon Musk's mom to sell the farm and the animals off, a private equity deal that will basically start extracting all the assets.
01:47:31.000He will get what they call magic paper to pay off his credit card debt.
01:47:42.000They then plant explosives in the hydroelectric dam, blowing it up, killing all of Elon Musk's mom's employees, as well as Elon Musk's mom.
01:47:50.000The movie literally ends at this point with Napoleon being crushed under the grain silo and killed, and Lucky, the new character, crawling out and saying something to the effect of, You will own nothing and you'll be happy.
01:47:59.000There is not a single instance of Marxism as a topic.
01:48:02.000There is not a single conversation about the oppressed versus the oppressor.
01:48:05.000There is not a single instance of government intervention in any capacity or governance.
01:48:11.000The entirety of the film is a critique on modern capitalist structures.
01:48:15.000In fact, Andy Serkis talked about this in an interview.
01:48:20.000And Andy Serkis made major changes, blah, blah, blah.
01:48:30.000He didn't want it to be a story about Stalinist Russia.
01:48:31.000Instead, he gravitated toward themes of capitalism, wealth, and overconsumption.
01:48:36.000The billionaire antagonist, Pilkington, drives what closely resembles a cyber truck.
01:48:41.000So here's the point I'm going to make.
01:48:44.000When they sent me a sponsorship request, one of the things they asked that I do was rescind my previous commentary on their film and say that.
01:48:59.000And I watched this, and that actually offended me that they would try to pay me to change my opinion.
01:49:06.000Well, I was asked, Tim, why would you put out a statement like this?
01:49:13.000It's the stupidest thing you can do as a company that sells sponsorships because now future sponsors are going to be like, what, run the risk of Tim Poole publicly blasting me if I offer him money?
01:49:23.000And my response was, I guarantee you, right wing personalities are going to start putting out generic statements in exchange for cash that this pro communist, anti capitalist movie is in fact worth watching.
01:49:35.000And with all due respect to Riley Gaines, because I like her, I would assume that this post she made was copy and pasted from a script and she never actually watched the film.
01:49:44.000That's why it says Animal Farm Partner.
01:49:46.000So I will call out any and everyone who doesn't watch this.
01:49:50.000Now, that being said, don't take it from me.
01:49:53.000Watch the film yourself if you want to.
01:49:55.000There are a lot of people that I see are just agreeing with my assessment, and that's fair because I'm telling you what I see is like, guys, in the trailer, you literally see Slaughterhouse by Pilkington.
01:50:08.000The animals in the beginning are happy.
01:50:09.000In Animal Farm, the animals are pissed off.
01:50:12.000The farm is mismanaged, so they revolt against bad leadership.
01:50:16.000In the book, the chickens have their eggs taken from them by the pigs and sold off.
01:50:21.000And when the chickens complain, they're executed and killed by the dogs.
01:50:25.000That was a commentary on government seizing what belongs to you.
01:50:29.000In the movie, the chickens gleefully sell their eggs along with the pigs, but when the pigs sell that and take the money, they keep the excess for themselves, and the animals get pissed off that the profit is taken away.
01:50:41.000So, if you want to bring your kids to see a movie that critiques modern capitalist structures, that was always allowed, but that is not what Animal Farm was ever about.
01:50:49.000So, I take issue with conservatives promoting this because they're liars.
01:50:54.000I'm sorry, there is no way Riley Gaines actually watched this film.
01:50:58.000You know what I said when I first saw the trailer, when we first talked about this during the.
01:51:03.000The pre show, the Discord members and subscribers, this sort of reframe it as almost like aligned with animal rights activists.
01:51:11.000You know, I was a vegan for 10 years, not for moral or ethical reasons, because I believed a lot of the, it's a low fat, plant based, it's healthy sort of claims.
01:51:49.000I think if I bought the rights to Wizard of Oz and I made a new Wizard of Oz movie where they fought lions and then they got like a technotronic arm that she could use to blast through the Wizard's Tower, I'd get, even if it was done well, I feel like that's like raping humanity.
01:52:06.000That's like stealing one of their great cultural memories, Animal Farm, and to turn it into this twisted abomination.
01:52:19.000Your institutions, your traditions, your culture, like a skin suit.
01:52:22.000They hollow it out and they wave it in front of your face to destroy it intentionally.
01:52:26.000And whether anyone watches the movie or not, they succeeded.
01:52:30.000He even says here in this interview with USA Today, the director, Andy Serkis, he says that my job was to make audiences think about this differently.
01:52:39.000I don't think, well, that's his self appointed job, Andy.
01:52:42.000I really hope you come in here, brother, because I'm just going to bail.
01:53:33.000If you go to any vegan meetup in the United States, you will hear radical anti natalists.
01:53:40.000They are some of the most radically, not pro choice, pro abortion communities you will ever see in the United States.
01:53:47.000And you talk to them, and it's like, so you believe that, like, eating an egg is wrong and it's not even fertilized, but, like, you've had, like, what, three or four abortions?
01:53:58.000Well, number one, I think it has to do with the fact that if you look at the data, there's a high correlation between mental illness and veganism.
01:55:08.000C. John Security says, I believe, I have this feeling the reason the left calls these attempts on the president's life fake and stage is because they believe they are too smart to fail.
01:55:21.000They have to reject the idea the left is violent.
01:55:25.000No matter how many times you tell them that all of these major political instances of terror from small to large have been dominated by the left, that we've had something like 40 terror attacks in the past two years, they reject it at right.
01:55:37.000So, when you get a high profile attempt on the president's life, they must reject it.
01:55:42.000But the problem is, we saw it, then it's fake.
01:57:24.000He got sued for saying specifically the Southern Poverty Law Center and other liberal NGOs hire these people to show up as Nazis for these events and stage these things.
01:57:33.000He got sued and had to settle out of court, and now Espel has been indicted for exactly what he claimed.
01:57:39.000Well, there was a specific individual that was named who worked at the State Department that, I guess, sued, and I don't know the exact terms of what the claim was, but I know they settled out of court.
01:57:51.000If what he said was true, if it turned out it was true, I think that he should get restitution on some level.
01:57:55.000But if it was partially true, then I guess the.
01:58:17.000And she was handpicked by Susie Wiles.
01:58:20.000And if I remember correctly from her, if people can check out on Wikipedia, she had, I think she had previously had to file for a foreign agent because she'd done some lobbying work for a Middle Eastern nation state.
01:58:54.000Yeah, she was hired by Ballard Partners, which is Bondi's outfit.
01:58:59.000Or, sorry, that is Susie Wilde's outfit.
01:59:01.000She began working as a registered foreign agent and lobbyist for Qatar related to anti human trafficking efforts in advance of the 2022 FIFA World Cup.
01:59:08.000I don't know how well the anti human trafficking efforts worked, if you know anything about how the World Cup went down.
02:00:17.000It is also very scary that we have a member of Congress who thinks World War II was World War XI because she saw the Roman numerals and she's that dumb.
02:00:24.000That post apparently from a year ago, though.
02:00:27.000And then it says, oh, but she corrected herself moments later.
02:00:30.000But an American doesn't make that mistake.
02:00:33.000Yeah, and they don't say during World War XI.
02:00:36.000Yeah, because it could be one of those things like, you know, the British call the French and Indian War, they call it like the Seven Years' War or whatever.
02:00:41.000So it could be in Somalia, they call it the Korean War, like World War III.
02:00:44.000And then they go, you know, it could be one of those things that maybe they attribute.
02:01:24.000It's like licensing a horse buggy for the interstate.
02:01:27.000Indeed, but it also has to do with distribution over the internet and rights.
02:01:31.000So, because of the evolution of broadcast, when licenses were being distributed, they attached certain internet and distribution rights to those licenses.
02:01:40.000So, you actually, when Jimmy Kimmel got pulled by Sinclair, we couldn't watch it anywhere here.
02:04:17.000We're actually talking here about bringing back news articles because I can now write news articles in 30 seconds.
02:04:24.000So the idea is not to create news articles, but to do basically what I would describe as a social aggregation that allows me to pull the key elements of stories that I think are verified and news relevant.
02:04:39.000So then instead of being like, here's a story we've got from the New York Post, I can say, from timcast.com.
02:04:46.000Cite the New York Post, cite them all in one location.
02:04:50.000Here are key elements that are reported by these networks.
02:04:53.000And then basically create simplified aggregators using AI.
02:05:00.000The point was the story that I was saying.
02:05:02.000I mentioned this in the beginning of the show.
02:05:04.000When the shooting at the White House Correspondence Center happened, I'm seeing all of this spattering of various nonsense, and it's hard to parse exactly what's going on in real time.
02:05:12.000So I just told ChatGPT just take all the news articles and the tweets, give me an infographic.
02:05:57.000And I feel like us that are in media, or at least, you know, media adjacent, I don't know how we get to that point, but I probably think that the image type or the shortened type media, I mean, at a certain point, they got to figure out how to make money off it.
02:06:11.000But I think media is moving in that direction where people just want to digest what they need to digest.
02:06:16.000And so what's happened is, you know, I was explaining a lot of like my 10 a.m., principally my 10 a.m. and my 4 p.m. shows are, uh, You know, I think today it's like he's done it, or like Trump, he went nuclear.
02:06:31.000And the issue is that you don't get clicks on news anymore.
02:06:35.000It used to be six years ago, eight years ago, I'd make a video that says, This thing just happened, and I'd get half a million views.
02:06:43.000Nobody needs those videos anymore because everyone already knows what happened.
02:06:45.000What they want now is they want to show where they hear thoughts and opinions, which is always kind of what I was doing, but that means that the structure of it needs to be different.
02:06:53.000Early Timcast didn't actually have titles back in the day, which is interesting, and then we added them.
02:06:58.000Tim Guest used to just a thumbnail that said Tim Guest IRL episode, guest name.
02:07:02.000And the thumbnail was just a picture of me and the guest.
02:07:05.000Now we do like something happened, and I don't think that's particularly effective because people don't care.
02:07:10.000Dude, you should have posted this thumbnail Jessica did.
02:08:34.000But this is the thing with the French Foreign Legion for the longest time: have Americans that have joined the French Foreign Legion taken oath to another.
02:08:40.000You know, institution to another government that should, in theory, your citizenship should be at risk here.
02:10:12.000I bet right now, so the challenge as a creator is to not get tangled up in the comments because they're like, A lot of it is AI intending to destroy us, like, or whatever that means, us, but to destroy the American narrative.
02:10:27.000So, pro Israel people, I can bring a pro Israel person on and say, I think that the strikes in Gaza have been beyond exorbitant.
02:10:38.000Civilians have been killed, and I think Israel needs to show more restraint.
02:10:41.000I think the civilian deaths are unacceptable.
02:10:44.000I think the U.S. shouldn't be involved in this.
02:10:46.000I think the West Bank settlements are evil.
02:10:47.000And the pro Israel person, their response will be, Well, I hear what you're saying, and they'll try and make some kind of argument.
02:10:55.000These people, even if you agree with them, they attack you.
02:11:22.000And we actually had a guy in the show, a guest called in and said, He asked the panel, like, do you think the opiate crisis in West Virginia is getting worse?
02:11:30.000I feel like it's getting worse, and it kind of bumps me out because I'm from West Virginia.
02:11:33.000And the guest we had on said, well, you know, it's really Israel that did it because they've been working with these governments.
02:11:48.000And I've explicitly stated over and over again Israel derangement syndrome is not.
02:11:53.000When you complain about Israel's military actions, when you complain about AIPAC, when you complain that the U.S. is funding Israel, all of those are.
02:12:10.000So Clint makes a video called Israel Derangement Syndrome Debunked with a picture of me yelling because he's targeting the retards by lying about what my opinion actually is.
02:12:28.000I don't know, but I don't respect him lying about what my position is because.
02:12:31.000He's pandering to these fucking retards.
02:12:33.000He's one of those dudes that's so easy to resolve conflict with.
02:12:36.000He'll come in and, like, in 10 minutes, he'll be like, Well, I'm also, I was also kind of pissed because Clint can walk in the door literally anytime he wants.
02:13:00.000What else would I be inviting you to Vegas to our studio for?
02:13:02.000And, Instead of making a video falsely accusing, like maligning me with a fake opinion, he could have literally drove here, didn't even need to ask.
02:13:11.000He could have just knocked on the door.
02:14:53.000I think that if Dan can raise some money, I don't want to always go back to that, but like, I mean, it's tough to beat an incumbent, but this would be his first reelect, Randy Fine.
02:15:01.000But like, Dan Bilzerian's whole thing is largely that Jews are bad.
02:15:08.000But he also is very famous as like some guy with a bunch of hot chicks on a yacht.
02:15:12.000So, I'm like, will the yacht thing get a bunch of normies to be like, yes, or will the anti Jew thing get a bunch of institutional boomerits and Jews to be like, fuck no?
02:15:21.000I think you're looking at it completely based on how we see it.
02:15:25.000The money that this is why AP is so good.
02:15:27.000They come into the district and they're not talking about Israel, right?
02:15:31.000They're talking about, in a primary especially, it's this bad person who they don't like is liberal, they're anti Trump, they're voting for higher taxes.
02:15:40.000Like, it's all the Republican talking points, right?
02:15:57.000Because it's going to be really funny when he gets into Congress and then he immediately, like, he's going to walk in, he's going to strut, and he's going to be like, I got elected, I'm going to those halls.
02:16:09.000He's going to walk in, the door's going to close, he's going to walk back out with a Yamacon and be like, the Jews are great.
02:16:16.000But the joke is, like, if the world really is the way that they think it is, what makes him think he's going to get into Congress and have any means of stopping that machine?
02:18:09.000It's like, I don't think people understand the format of the show.
02:18:12.000Cause, like, yeah, when Fuentes was coming on, or when Baccia is coming on or something, a lot of people messaged me and they're like, make sure you go after him or go after her, like, coming from all these different angles.
02:18:22.000And I'm like, the show's not for score settling.
02:18:24.000The show, we say it to every guest, is like, yeah, we're going to treat you like every other guest, whether you have like 2,000 followers or a million.
02:22:17.000So, I've got a question for Tate based on his holding it down this afternoon.
02:22:24.000He had a great guest on an interview, Stephen, and he, at the end of the interview, had a little conversation about how England was actually doing pretty well.
02:22:38.000Saying it's not going so great, and then uh, he also maybe implied that the United States didn't assist them enough over the course of the years after World War 11.
02:22:48.000Uh, because you know, World War 11 was pretty rough on Europe, and we would have supported them more, they'd be in a better position right now, like Germany and Japan.
02:22:57.000And uh, so I just wanted to get y'all's take to see if that was a fair assessment that we think maybe America didn't do enough to help support England and uh.
02:23:12.000Yeah, I think what Stephen was hitting at wasn't necessarily that we didn't aid them enough.
02:23:16.000I don't know, maybe he did make that point.
02:23:18.000I think the main point he was making was the United States were pushing for decolonization around the world.
02:23:27.000I think this was the policy of the State Department, was again, America as a country that viewed itself as a liberated colony, so to speak, they felt like they had commonality with all of these sort of European colonies around the world.
02:23:41.000Which is, at least that was the line they would use.
02:23:44.000I think the real politic explanation is that they were just simply trying to prevent Europe from challenging American hegemony, which is fair.
02:23:53.000We're within our right to do that as Americans.
02:23:55.000I think the point he was making was like we assisted them in decolonizing their empire, you know, liberating all their colonies, so to speak, but that we actually kind of pushed them into that.
02:24:06.000We kind of coerced them into, again, abandoning a lot of their colonial projects.
02:24:11.000Like if you read, for example, like The Great Betrayal by Ian Smith and he talks about like the Rhodesia saga, early on, I mean, the United States was like actively pushing Britain to abandon its colonies in Africa.
02:24:25.000I think that was the point he was making.
02:24:27.000I'm not like running cover for Steven.
02:24:29.000I mean, full disclosure, me and him are good buddies, but I mean, like, we argue about this all the time.
02:24:34.000His point about England being in a better situation, I think he was speaking about like the demographic situation.
02:24:39.000My counterpoint to him, I don't know if I made it on the show, but I make this point to him all the time, is yes, but y'all's situation unraveled in 10, 20 years.
02:24:47.000Like, 20 years ago, you were fine, and then now you've self destructed.
02:24:50.000Where America, it's been like a slow burn for quite a long time.
02:24:54.000So that's why us as Americans are reacting so strongly to what's happening in Europe, because it's like, This is unraveling rapidly, where in America, it's like, again, kind of a slow burn.
02:25:03.000But I think the point he was making, yeah, with in regards to sort of it being America's fault, maybe, or us having being complicit partially, I think he did say, like, you know, the Brits still face the brunt.
02:25:14.000I mean, because, for example, like in Yemen, they used to have the colony of Aden in Yemen, right?
02:25:18.000They used to control Yemen and they literally got rid of it in like a budget.
02:25:21.000They were just having an annual budget and literally a strike through their colony in Aden, and that ended British rule in Yemen.
02:25:27.000So, in a lot of instances, in the majority of instances, it was their fault.
02:25:30.000I think he was simply saying it was the policy of the State Department.
02:25:34.000For these European empires to decolonize, and that did make things worse for them.
02:25:40.000And then that's where the debate would ensue like, okay, is that in America's interest?
02:25:43.000That's a debate for us, that's a house discussion.
02:25:45.000I don't think the British Empire ever ended, and I don't think that they're giving up power.
02:25:49.000I think they're taking the shadow approach, and they were like, we got to back off and use soft power so that it doesn't look like we're in charge of everything.
02:25:56.000The problem is that soft power doesn't typically translate into hard power.
02:26:00.000I don't mean like we're going to offer you money.
02:26:08.000It's not like we're going to send troops on the ground.
02:26:10.000They'll just kill people with heart attack guns and they play the fallen empire kind of role because you can't rebel against who you can't see.
02:26:20.000Yeah, the problem is they just, all these British colonial institutions that have been the global standard for a long time are unraveling.
02:26:29.000Like in the Iran war, we saw that, again, the British were the leader in the world of issuing maritime insurance, right?
02:26:37.000Like that generated something like 5% of the city of London's revenue was through maritime insurance.
02:26:43.000And what we saw was when we cranked up the pressure in the Strait of Hormuz, et cetera, et cetera, they started, they weren't willing to insure a lot of ships that were passing through the Strait.
02:26:51.000And broadly, they just couldn't, quite frankly, couldn't afford the policies that would be required that shifted over to America.
02:26:57.000So I think, I do, I mean, maybe that could be the instance.
02:27:01.000I think what's more likely is that the soft power is just not translating into hard power.
02:27:04.000Like the British are just, you know, we're eating their lunch on virtually every global jostling, you know, this sort of global jostling that's occurring.
02:27:12.000We're picking off more parts of whatever holdover they have from the colonial.
02:27:24.000And I mean, again, there's a variety of reasons that happened, but the main reason was, again, in the early 80s, Margaret Thatcher, Maggie Thatcher was combing through when the Chinese said, hey, by the way, this lease expires in 1997.
02:28:04.000Super nationalism, where no one group or nation state ought to have undue power over others and everyone should have self determination, democracy building.
02:28:22.000The reason we like data republic and I like.
02:28:24.000To use the term supernationalism is that it is a more coherent predictive philosophy because they do see themselves as nationalists just for this sort of post war neoliberal world order where everyone has their own Jeffersonian democracy.
02:28:42.000Yeah, well, and that's supernationalism.
02:28:44.000Yeah, except they spread gay communism everywhere.
02:28:46.000And what's ironic, and I'm not trying to like steer the conversation back to Israel, it's just applicable in this instance, is one of the main reasons the State Department had to take.
02:28:58.000The policy that every nation on planet Earth had the right to self determination was because we were, after Truman was a bit apathetic with Israel, so was Eisenhower.
02:29:09.000Following Eisenhower, the State Department started to back Israel quite hard.
02:29:13.000And the entire Israel project is predicated on the idea of self determination, as in, if you are a nation, you have the right to your own nation state.
02:29:38.000If you look and you can go read about it, actually, there was a lot of tension in the State Department.
02:29:41.000It's like, okay, we have this policy with Israel now, but simultaneously, we're like letting these, you know, we're kind of turning a blind eye to these European empires.
02:29:51.000You can't simultaneously hold those two positions.
02:30:27.000Yeah, I mean, I think that was a pretty good discussion.
02:30:30.000I will say that he definitely referred to the Marshall Plan and referred to Germany and Japan.
02:30:36.000I think that's significant though, because if you look at the cultures of Germany and Japan, I think a lot of their cultures in those areas are why they thrived so much after the war.
02:30:45.000And I think that you made a point about Puritans leaving and some of the places they left.
02:30:49.000It wasn't as religious after they left.
02:30:52.000I think maybe that same concept is a lot of the pioneers came to the New World and they left England itself and they went to the colonies.
02:30:59.000And that may have had an effect on how they rebounded later.
02:31:02.000Yeah, I think not to get too in the weeds here, but if you look at the types of people that settled.
02:31:10.000The United States early on, they came from the individualistic sort of societies within Europe as Europe emptied out and then shifted more towards, I guess you would say, collectivism.
02:31:20.000Like the Anabaptists came here, the French Huguenots came here, the Puritans came here.
02:31:24.000So you're looking at all these groups that ultimately were the first, the last ones in on Christianity and then the first ones out when the Protestant Revolution, the Protestant Reformation came along.
02:31:33.000That is the main settlers that actually came and settled the United States.
02:31:37.000And that's why the United States, which was sort of the founding ethos, was this kind of like hyper Calvinist individualistic.
02:31:45.000It's because that was the waves of European settlers that came here and then they voluntarily removed themselves from the European political zeitgeist.
02:31:52.000And ultimately, that is why you saw, you know, going into the 18th century, that rift between the United States and the old world became very obvious because, yeah, the settlers just temperamentally were far different from their mother country.
02:32:04.000And so the divide just became quite clear.
02:32:06.000Even, I mean, you can even get, you know, the people cite this all the time, but it is true.
02:32:09.000It's like even the Scots Irish, you know, the Scots Irish, you know, also known as the Ulster Scots, yeah, they were kind of on the frontier.
02:32:15.000You know, Ireland, they were pushing into a Catholic Ireland and they were these like chauvinistically Protestant Englishmen and lowland Scots.
02:32:23.000And yeah, they kind of possessed this.
02:33:27.000You know, there's probably some guy on YouTube actually with 50,000.
02:33:31.000Subscribers, something like me and 10 friends got together and built uh cabins on this Alaskan island.
02:33:37.000There's probably a YouTube channel that's actually just that.
02:33:41.000Nobody wants to live in the middle of nowhere the way the pioneers did.
02:33:44.000They left the deep, big cities in their country on boats for three months, where 20 of the people died on those boats, landed on barren shores, and said, Well, we can't farm because winter's coming, so we only have what food we have left.
02:33:58.000And then 20 more died, and they started building huts and lived in cabins, and it was.
02:34:09.000Well, and I think any, this is like a controversial take, but it's true, is that frontier spirit that does live on.
02:34:16.000You primarily see it in the founding stock of the United States, insofar as like NASA missions even going into Artemis.
02:34:22.000Like that is kind of the modern manifestation of that frontier pioneer culture.
02:34:26.000And as that proportion of the American population, that's not an explicitly white population, by the way, it's a subset of the white population.
02:34:32.000You know, as that share of the population decreases, You are going to see that frontier pioneer spirit die off more and more as people become more, you know, adjusted to maybe Hamilton's vision of the United States versus Jefferson's vision.
02:34:44.000What's Europeans being like, we got to get the fuck out of here?
02:34:46.000That is like our pioneer spirit comes from that.
02:34:49.000Like, I got to get the fuck out of here.
02:34:50.000Well, it was better to live in a barren shore and risk death than to stay in London.
02:36:32.000But it's funny because I can say this, no one will believe it anyway.
02:36:34.000So if I tell the truth that we came from the future to control politics here to create what we want, and Elon is, of course, that's why he follows me on X because we all work together.
02:36:45.000That's why Trump, you know, it's all coordinated.
02:38:43.000I've got a question for Cliff and Josh.
02:38:47.000So I've long held the belief that right aligned candidates need to spend time describing the outcomes of their proposed policies.
02:38:54.000The left will regularly paint a picture of their perception of the communist utopia they plan to bring about, yet I've never seen anyone on the right bother to describe the shining city on a hill.
02:39:05.000Does this weigh in at all to the strategies described in your book?
02:39:10.000I think there's an aspect to this that is, it goes like this.
02:39:14.000Methoding doesn't matter until it becomes the only thing that matters, and nothing else matters at that point.
02:39:18.000And what we mean by that is the first several of the 18 steps, and then the latter few, have to do with sort of your campaign infrastructure of getting the people on board that you need, the donors that you need, the ground game, the database, the software.
02:39:35.000The follow up, it's basically becomes a marketing funnel, and there's this entire structure that your campaign needs in order to be successful.
02:39:45.000When it finally reaches the door, it reaches the mailbox, it reaches the phone, that's when the message is what matters.
02:39:54.000And it's the only thing that matters at that point.
02:39:55.000Because if you botch that and you've done everything else right, and then don't give people a compelling reason to vote for you at the end.
02:40:03.000Yeah, one thing the botching of the messaging, yes, you're 100% correct.
02:40:07.000Democrats are amazing at this, they stay on message.
02:40:10.000Republicans, you know, they get a little too esoteric.
02:40:13.000They talk about data, they talk about numbers, they're not talking about outcomes.
02:40:19.000One of the things in the book that we talk about is something called the Leesburg Grid.
02:40:22.000And what this is for anyone that doesn't think that Pelosi, Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, like they're doing this weekly.
02:40:31.000Every single week, they're doing a Leesburg Grid.
02:40:32.000And what that is, is you have four quadrants you have what you want voters to think about you, what you want voters to think about your political enemies, what your political enemies want voters to think about you, and what your political enemy wants people to think about themselves.
02:40:49.000And so you have these kind of messages or these adjectives that are in these boxes, these four quadrants.
02:40:56.000And if you're winning, it's because you're staying in the first two quadrants what you want people to think of you and what you want people to think of your political opponent.
02:41:06.000If at any time you're talking about the other two quadrants, you're losing.
02:41:10.000Republicans continuously like to lose, Democrats like to stay on message.
02:41:15.000They're very, very specific, they've got good patience, and they're disciplined.
02:41:22.000How valuable is it that in the bottom two quadrants to talk up your own game and to talk down your opponent's game?
02:41:27.000Because one of the things I noticed about Obama when he ran in 08, he never talked about other people.
02:41:31.000He only talked about himself and what he saw.
02:41:34.000And it was like, I didn't even think about Hillary because he wasn't talking about Hillary.
02:43:01.000If someone were to say, like, if I was a commie and they were like, he's a radical leftist, I would say he's absolutely right because what have these moderates gotten us?
02:43:09.000No working health care, no movement in Congress.
02:43:13.000It takes a radical to bring up the change you need and I want to bring to you.
02:43:37.000I think in the post Trump world, things are a lot different when it comes to negative ads.
02:43:42.000Just because, I mean, Shane Gillis does the whole thing when he talks about like the first debate where Trump comes out and it's like he just starts owning people.
02:43:50.000And like people are like, well, of course he's like a professional TV guy.
02:44:46.000It's like, and when you're like, vote for someone just like me who did that once for a couple of months and I only made $100 from it and never did it again, I promise.
02:44:53.000No, no, what happened was they were like, she's a whore.
02:44:56.000And then she went, that's right, I am.
02:45:11.000So many of the reasons, so many of the sort of the womanizing stories that would otherwise.
02:45:15.000Haunt any other given candidate because it was sort of already formed into the price of a Trump vote with his name ID already.
02:45:25.000And it's like he's really mellowed out over the years.
02:45:28.000One of the most interesting viral videos on X that's been reposted from sometime in the late 1980s is about him and a model who, for the duration of the video, he is incessantly commenting about her weight gain, about how important it is for her.
02:46:34.000And one of the things we warn against is don't try to be like Donald Trump in the ways that you are not Donald Trump because that shtick will just not work for you.
02:46:41.000But one of the things that you do want to carry forward is a sort of radical authenticity that simply goes, yeah, so what?
02:48:43.000Her job was to clean up the Justice Department, rotary all the calcified junk out of the pipes, and create the structure so that now all these indictments we see dropping can actually happen.
02:49:00.000And maybe some folks might actually go to jail.
02:49:04.000Well, to be fair, the indictments must have been in the works while she was still head of the DOJ, or she was AG, so.
02:51:02.000And it was like both of us would have immediately said, F no.
02:51:04.000We'd open them up right away and then be like, this is bullshit.
02:51:07.000So we did not get invited to that event.
02:51:10.000I thought that Bondi, I can't really refute what you're saying, that she really was rotor rooting in the inside because a lot of that stuff happened behind closed doors, but that she was kind of like a second choice quick pick after Matt Gaetz couldn't get through.
02:52:41.000Like, our attitude is like, if someone came here and we had a gay dude here and they were attacking him, calling him a faggot over and over again, we'd be like, bro, chill the fuck out.
02:52:53.000Like, I'm saying faggot, not in the South Park way.
02:53:15.000Well, so the issue is we have the reason we created the gate where it's like you sign up and there's a wait period is because we started getting a bunch of attacks.
02:53:23.000Leftists and, you know, the Israel people are trying to come in and intentionally get the Discord banned.
02:53:30.000So we were like, we need to create some kind of buffer where there's either a paywall or a time gate that's going to make it very difficult for these people to try and blow up the Discord.
02:55:26.000I've been a long time viewer and I've called a couple times in the past.
02:55:30.000And yeah, I just wanted to run something by you.
02:55:33.000I don't know if this just slipped your radar, Tim, or if it's just something you haven't talked about, or maybe I missed the video, but there's been some movement in the poly market or some situation there.
02:55:44.000I guess the guy who made like $400,000 was arrested.
02:58:06.000It offends me the idea that it would be insider trading for me to say, right here in this room with Ian in full presence, tomorrow I will be at a press briefing.
02:58:15.000And then if Ian buys that, they would argue that's insider trading.
02:58:19.000No, I am not an insider to this company, nor do I sell contracts.
02:58:54.000You know, the argument that a soldier maybe leaked something is interesting because if troops start going on Kalshi and saying, yes, we think there's going to be a strike tomorrow, enemy combatants will predict it.
02:59:15.000When they asked him, and they were like, well, he was like, well, did he say, It would be successful against the U.S. He's like, that's like Pete Rose.
02:59:25.000You know, as long as you're betting on the good guys, I don't care.
03:00:40.000And in the past, I mean, no rich guy would ever want to unless he'd want to be an officer.
03:00:43.000Those people saying Trump wasn't a draft dodger are just bullshit because, well, he's rich.
03:00:49.000So he never would have been considered anyway.
03:00:53.000It's not so obvious where it's like a rich guy might bribe an NCO or his direct commanding officer or anything like that.
03:00:59.000But there's a lot of concerns with being ultra wealthy because it's not just that.
03:01:04.000You, as a wealthy family member or individual, could have influence, but that you're going to be well connected in some way.
03:01:11.000And as a wealthy person, there's typically economic ties to you that, like, if you were to die, could risk the community.
03:01:18.000So let's say you own a network of restaurants that generate 20% of the economy in a small town area, and you're like, I want to go fight in a war.
03:01:26.000They're going to be like, if you die, who's going to run these?
03:01:29.000If you leave, who's going to run this?
03:01:37.000Yeah, I guess it just seems like this is an inevitability because you've talked about that in the past, like the example that you brought up and with yourself.
03:01:45.000It's like if you're being told, I can't bet on this or I can't bet on this.