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00:02:55.000Now apparently there was some other attorney who wasn't going to do it for some reason said either the case wasn't strong enough, didn't want to, so Trump said, get him out of there, get somebody else, and now it is getting done.
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00:07:57.000Former FBI director James Comey indicted days after Trump demanded his DOJ move now to prosecute enemies.
00:08:05.000Prosecutors earlier said they couldn't establish probable cause to charge Comey, which is a lie.
00:08:10.000Because we've got this post from Greg Price, which is uh hilarious.
00:08:14.000On the left, James Comey telling Congress in September of 2020 that the steel dossier wasn't used in the 2016 intelligence committee assessment on the Russian oaks.
00:08:22.000Tulsi Gabbard's release from July showing the steel dossier was directly cited, and that Obama Intel officials overruled senior Intel officials, if officials who told them it was garbage.
00:08:35.000Now, I believe he's being indicted on obstruction as well.
00:08:38.000Former FBI director James Comey has been indicted on two of three counts sought by prosecutors.
00:08:42.000One count of making false statements and one count of obstruction of justice just days after President Donald Trump issued a public demand for his DOJ to act now to bring prosecutions against Comey and other political foes.
00:08:54.000The charges followed Trump's ousting of U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Eric Siebert, who, according to source that Expressed doubts internally about bringing cases against Comey as well as New York attorney General Letitia James after Trump appointed him to lead the office.
00:09:07.000I would just like to point out where we are in this country.
00:09:09.000They went after Donald Trump on fake charges.
00:09:12.000Trump says, okay, if that's the standard, we go after them as well.
00:09:16.000It's remarkable to me that under the Biden administration and in New York, they said, well, these are highly dubious, but let's bring them anyway.
00:09:24.000And then under Trump, the attorneys are like, well, we can't really do it enough.
00:09:28.000The standard was set by the Democrats.
00:09:30.000Trump is saying, hey, look, you want to come after me citing mortgage fraud or civil fraud for loans because an officer made a mistake on some numbers.
00:09:40.000He's gonna go after Letitia James when she claimed a property outside of New York was her primary residence, which gave her favorable loan terms.
00:09:48.000I think the same thing is true for Adam Schiff, but we'll see what happens there.
00:10:45.000At the highest level of politics, Trump has told the deep state, you are going down.
00:10:51.000At the street level, we are dealing with three terror attacks in three weeks.
00:10:55.000So you guys tell me what's happening in this country.
00:10:57.000I mean, look, uh, as far as the situation with Comey, it's good that they're indicting him.
00:11:03.000It's good that a grand jury decided that they had enough evidence to prosecute.
00:11:07.000It's good that they are that they've actually moved on this, didn't let the statute of limitations run out.
00:11:14.000Um but I I see this online like people tweeting at like Cash Patel and people tweeting at uh Republican lawmakers saying, hey, make the leftists stop killing us.
00:12:17.000The thing is, it doesn't matter if they put Comey away, because this is it doesn't matter if it's Comey or who the individuals are, because there are other people that will be pursuing those those those places in the administration.
00:12:32.000There's gonna be a Democrat that's gonna be running.
00:12:34.000There's gonna be people in the bureaucracy that will want to, or there will be people in on the Democrat side that will will fill the roles.
00:12:43.000You don't need to wipe out the entire every single soldier on the enemy's battlefield if you if you've if you shatter their center and the rest of them flee.
00:12:52.000If Trump can get these if if simply these indictments and these charges against Comey, Leticia James, potentially Schiff, anybody else, if that breaks their ranks, those people you're describing are going to run for the Hills.
00:13:04.000They'll find them so oh well, what's that?
00:13:06.000Uh they're they've are they're already getting citizenship in foreign countries.
00:13:43.000They have the that they'll lose all their funding and all their legal support.
00:13:46.000Right now, with the infrastructures of power in place, these people might actually get off on the charges.
00:13:51.000Well, I mean, the dude that you know initially that just most recently shot up the ice facility, he took care of it himself.
00:13:57.000And that's something that that actually happens fairly regularly.
00:13:59.000Like they'll they'll go and it'll be suicide by cop or they'll they'll commit suicide themselves.
00:14:04.000Um you look at all the trans shooters that have gone to schools and stuff, there's not all of them, obviously, but a lot of them get taken care of on you know when they're carrying out the attack.
00:14:14.000I I think if again, this isn't Jimmy that it's if Jimmy Kimmel's off the air, if the Democrats that waged lawfare against Trump are in prison, and what remains are the squishy middle of middle of the road soft democrats who are like, I'm not gonna support any of that stuff.
00:14:31.000You will stop this cultural movement on the ground level.
00:14:34.000Their infrastructure that pays them to that gives them resources to be on the ground, that bails them out of jail, will evaporate overnight.
00:14:42.000It's it's the the way I look at it is you've got an infestation, and all you're doing is chasing chasing the bugs that you can see instead of going into the walls and finding the hive.
00:14:51.000So, of course, if we had a wasps nest in the building and they were flying around, we'd be we'd be swatting the wasps to get rid of them when we see them.
00:14:59.000But we'd also call an exterminator to go in the walls, figure out the nest is and get the nest torn out.
00:15:03.000This is this is substantially more important in my opinion.
00:15:07.000Getting rid of the individual uh actors will stop the individual actor at the time, but how do you stop them from reproducing and it's moves like this?
00:15:16.000I totally well, I mean, this is the probably the biggest test, one of the biggest tests of the DOJ so far, because I mean this was a buzzer beater, right?
00:15:23.000Like the statute of limitations, September 30th, that's when Comey last testified, September 30th, 2020.
00:15:29.000And it's like to prove that he didn't have any knowledge of the statements, approved like perjury in this case, it's a really high bar.
00:15:35.000That's why uh that's why this is a buzzer beater in this case, is because they needed to build this case to the best of their abilities.
00:15:42.000And so that's just like that because these things matter.
00:15:44.000These things are like Tim is saying, you're you're cutting the head of the snake.
00:15:47.000That's like I think the issue is that if Trump got in on day one and said, go arrest Comey, he'd be like, I ain't doing it.
00:16:07.000The deep state is still very much there, and we are we are battling with them.
00:16:11.000So right now, with this move against Comey, you know, powerful, prominent uniparty elite establishment international elements are saying Trump wants war, he'll get war.
00:16:21.000And I mean I'm I'm talking about lawfare, legal actions.
00:16:24.000If Trump can just go now, and and it's fascinating because what did we hear?
00:16:30.000Was it gonna be end of summer we're gonna start seeing these arrests?
00:16:36.000You know, now now there's rumors that he might he's he's looking into criminal activity of the Soros uh uh his foundations, uh open society and things like that, and they're gonna get it.
00:17:02.000Those financial bases and that sort of media base is really what he probably needs to hit to kind of provide that sort of long-term longevity that's gonna allow them to win, you know, in the by-elections, but also uh it when it got to 2028 as well.
00:17:12.000My my argument to your question, wouldn't that just be another comey?
00:17:17.000Well, if Trump says, go to war with me and I'll destroy your life and you'll regret it, people are gonna say, I ain't going to war with Trump.
00:17:34.000They are willing to send people on the ground.
00:17:36.000But as people, they're they're the only fear generated by the Democratic Party is the is the system itself, which they inherit, not which they've built.
00:17:47.000Trump is the guy that people actually think he might press the button.
00:17:50.000You know, he had that famous phone call where he told Putin and she he told he told She, if you invade Taiwan and Putin, if you invade uh uh uh what did he say, Kiev or Ukraine, I'm gonna nuke you.
00:18:02.000And he was like, I don't know if they believed me, maybe five percent.
00:18:05.000And everyone's kind of like, you know, when Trump says it, you pause for a second.
00:18:09.000Because when Obama says it, no one actually believes it.
00:18:11.000It's not not just that sort of Nixonite mad dog sort of mentality that Nixon's crazy, he's unpredictable.
00:18:17.000And like obviously that they went after Nixon again with with the lawfare type thing.
00:18:23.000Trump put out a public statement saying, Pam, go arrest my enemies now.
00:18:27.000And so what I think he's hoping for, that was a shot across the bow.
00:18:31.000I think he's hoping the next in line for a position like Comey, which wouldn't even come unless they win in 2028, is saying, like, dude, best be a fisherman than meddle in the politics of man.
00:19:45.000Well, also that's why this is important because you have to make an example out of Comey, like Tim was saying, for any future FBI director, make an example out of Letitia James.
00:19:53.000Like this lawfare crap is not gonna slide.
00:19:55.000So whoever that is, it doesn't really matter, whoever it is that replaces Trump, Trump's giving that person breathing room now.
00:20:01.000They're not gonna have the boot on their neck of whatever, you know, God forbid a Democrat administration comes back in and they appoint all these chowder heads.
00:20:07.000He can give us a little breathing room if he sets the example here and sets it down.
00:20:11.000If if you know, I feel bad for you, Tate, because like if a if a new Democrat administration gets in, I'll be 42, 43.
00:20:18.000I had a good life, went on adventures.
00:20:29.000It gives other people room down the road if Trump gets you're gonna say about it.
00:20:34.000Look at Phil, rocking out rock star stage, platinum records, and then he doesn't gotta work with the g worry about the gulag till these puts be rocking with the rocks.
00:20:42.000AOC puts me in the quirked up white boy camp.
00:21:00.000If he does, if it does does go through when he prosecutes these people, that gives people down the road at a um in a leeway open path to go and say, Okay, we're gonna prosecute you, you want to go against us.
00:21:25.000President Donald Trump has warned Democrats that bad things will happen to them if right-wing people decide to retaliate amid growing tensions over this week's deadly shooting at the Texas immigration facility.
00:21:34.000While investigations into the shooting are still ongoing, the president has made it clear that he believes the radical left is solely responsible for Wednesday's tragedy.
00:21:40.000I mean, they literally did a press conference and they were like, Yep, he was a leftist and uh he hated Trump, and he said he wanted to strike fear and terror into the hearts of ice agents, so they never know if there's a sniper waiting on the rooftop for him.
00:21:54.000No law enforcement officers were hurt in the incident, but authorities say the shooting was politically motivated, targeting ICE agents who are central to Trump's deportation strategy.
00:22:02.000Asked in the Oval Office on Thursday, who was to blame, Trump said he did not doubt the radical left is causing the problem.
00:22:07.000He also name checked people such as Democrat Congressman Jasmine Crockett, who's been critical of ICE's heavy-handed tactics.
00:22:13.000But despite calls to turn down the temperature in America, the president went even further, warning that things were only going to get worse for one side.
00:22:19.000Quote, bad things will happen when they play these games.
00:22:41.000The fascinating thing is, while uh for the past several years, people have largely criticized me for covering these articles and talking about this possibility.
00:22:52.000In the past two or three years, it has largely been the left warning that a civil war was coming.
00:22:57.000I not no joke, go to Blue Sky or Reddit.
00:23:00.000And so we we did a few segments on this show where I went to Reddit and looked up all the leftist subreddits where they were basically, they were all saying literally civil war is coming.
00:23:08.000And uh I think it's because they knew that Trump was gonna win.
00:23:10.000More importantly, when Trump took a bullet and narrowly survived, everyone on X, left and right said we were millimeters away from a civil war.
00:23:21.000Now, with the uh I'm gonna say it again, three terror attacks in three weeks.
00:23:57.000Certainly, don't get me wrong, there are liberals and democrats who have called for it.
00:24:01.000However, they tend to be uh uh lower in in notoriety.
00:24:05.000I I I saw a former a former spokesperson for Biden or whatever on uh Fox say, yeah, we don't want this, and I'm like, but no one knows who that is.
00:24:12.000Just no just no following and no and and no influence.
00:24:14.000No, there's not one prominent Democrat that has come out and said, stop attacking law enforcement, let law enforcement do their job, which is the most antine basic thing that you want to hear out of a uh a representative.
00:24:29.000If you're a Democrat and you actually want to see the temperature turned down, and you want to you don't want to see more violence, then you need to come out and say, stop inhibiting law enforcement from doing their job.
00:24:44.000Stop calling them the Gestapo, stop telling them that they have to take their masks off because you know if they take their masks off, what's gonna happen is their family is gonna be doxxed and their families will be attacked.
00:24:56.000Stop doing all of the stuff that you're doing that is not saying law enforcement has a job and they are empowered to do it.
00:25:03.000Just stop doing that, and then I might believe that you actually want the violence to stop.
00:25:08.000And until then, I don't believe that you want the violence to stop.
00:25:11.000No, I I gotta I gotta interject there.
00:25:14.000And uh I I do agree that, you know, they need to turn the rhetoric down, which can include the mask commentary, but I do think the the feds should not wear masks.
00:25:23.000I think if you want to go out proudly in defense of this nation, you must accept those risks.
00:25:31.000And I do not appreciate, and I certainly understand.
00:25:34.000I am here every single night with my face on camera.
00:25:38.000I have been doxxed, I have been uh swatted numerous times, I've been attacked.
00:25:42.000I understand my job doesn't require me to be on the ground in front of these people, but that's something they accept, even with masks on that there's a physical danger that they are experiencing.
00:25:52.000I think we cannot play a game where we have federal law enforcement being like the threat of terrorism is so serious, we have to hide ourselves.
00:26:01.000I think each and every one of these officers engaging in this should take their masks off and say, I am name, you know, John Smith, a proud American, legally and lawfully enforcing the law, you are terrorists and we won't stand for it.
00:26:17.000We should I I'm sorry, I'm not playing this.
00:26:19.000Federal law enforcement get to hide their faces because they're scared.
00:26:22.000We know, I get it, and I feel for you because the left are violent psychopaths.
00:26:26.000But I I don't think this is how we should be handling it.
00:26:30.000I think we should be we have to be uh um I don't know, steadfast, vigilant, and uh I don't know, uh just we we have to we have to face this challenge head on.
00:26:43.000If we're better than them, real quick, if if if we think we're better than them, which we did we are and we think we are, um, and we feel a certain way we should take off.
00:27:12.000And fear of far left terror, I do not believe is a good enough reason that the regular people should have to live with cops walking around in all black.
00:27:19.000I mean, I think there has to be some sort of preemptive measures for that.
00:27:22.000And then these people with families and kids and livelihoods, like, yes, they're representing the federal government, but I mean, and of course they're scared, but there hasn't been a lot of you know preemptive measures to counter this far left terrorism.
00:27:33.000I mean, we're starting to see it now following the Charlie Kirk's assassination, but these guys are gonna want guarantees.
00:27:38.000Otherwise, I imagine a lot of them will just walk out their jobs if they're told they have to have to unmask.
00:27:42.000You know, they're living next to these people.
00:27:44.000We we've seen from the backlash of you know, of Charlie Kirk's mother, how many people in Blue Sky we just uh hundreds of thousands of likes calling for deaths of you know Ben Shapiro, other uh politicians, political commentators, they want blood, and these people are living next door to them.
00:27:59.000They're so emboldened that it's gonna be very difficult for t to persuade these guys, yeah, let's demask, and then next minute they're getting knocks at the door, their family's being harassed, or they're actually potentially gonna be able to do that.
00:28:09.000You've got two options, civil war or not.
00:28:12.000And if the argument is the threat of far left terror is so pervasive in our hometowns that our own police officers have to hide their identities, you're in a civil war.
00:28:23.000Let me say it again to everyone out there that are telling me, you're telling me that I have to live in a country where any cop anywhere is going to not have a badge number visible, they're going to cover their faces so they can't be doxxed.
00:29:05.000I think that people don't realize, particularly on the right, they don't realize how aggressive and vicious you know these people really are.
00:29:12.000I don't think that you know, as a society that we've really stepped back and looked at it because the media institutions are kind of they're they're they're encouraging it, right?
00:29:19.000Like all this dehumanizing language like calling them the Gestapo.
00:29:22.000I mean, that's what it's for, is to dehumanize them to justify violence.
00:29:25.000Let me ask you I'm gonna ask you guys a quick question.
00:29:53.000Like you you a cop can grab anybody off the street and arrest them regardless of what they're wearing.
00:29:56.000The purpose of wearing a mask is so that you can't take pictures of their face, you can't share their information online, and if they get caught, you can't prosecute them because you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:30:06.000We are asking for that same thing with our law enforcement as well.
00:30:09.000And if you want to acknowledge that we are saying we want our law enforcement people to go out, you can't figure out who they are, you can't take pictures of their face, anything that happens in the fray, we won't be able to pinpoint which officer necessarily because just like Antifa, we have created a large group of individuals that are wearing the exact same clothes and you can't see their face.
00:30:29.000This means that if one of these guys in in a in in a conflict with the far left cracks a skull or whatever, they can't do anything legally about it.
00:30:37.000If that's the argument you're gonna make, we are in a civil war period.
00:30:43.000Well, the big thing with ICE that we're we're all missing here is that the reason they have the mask primarily is because they're dealing with drug bust and the cartel, and like that's a massive infrastructure, especially in the southwest United States, and they've been masking for like 10 years now, and it's primarily because okay, yes, there is a factor at the far left where they dox these guys, but the ice is in a completely different battlefield from the rest of like I guess you would say the right wing is because ICE is having to deal with the cartel, they're having to deal with these drug busts and busting up these human trafficking uh, you know, routes and these sorts of things.
00:31:12.000So it's like it's not the far left they're worried about.
00:31:14.000Like if you talk to these ICE agents, typically it's the cartels and the retribution from those guys is what they're typically.
00:31:31.000Guys, if you're arguing that the these that our federal law enforcement should be able to wear masks because of wartime conditions, I'm actually gonna push you one further and say you are not giving our men and women enough.
00:31:45.000If if the argument is the threat of the far left terror is so great against their families, we got to step it up.
00:32:06.000But the point is, so you're talking about ICE that's trying to carry out these j these uh you know, these they're trying to wrap up the the illegal.
00:32:14.000Well, I was talking specifically about all federal law enforcement.
00:32:17.000I think a lot of people are taking that to assume just the ice.
00:32:20.000I'm saying Well, generally ICE is the one are the ones that are wearing the masks and stuff, right?
00:32:24.000So there you don't see a lot of well, you don't see we we do.
00:32:27.000That's what people are complaining about, right?
00:32:29.000The the general argument is that police shouldn't be wearing masks.
00:32:44.000You're saying if they have to wear masks, that means that the pro the violence and the problems are grit are too great to be considered normal.
00:32:52.000But that for the local police who have jurisdiction to go out and pick up the people that might actually attack the federal law enforcement, they're not doing it because the sanctuary cities are saying no, we won't have these people do these things because we won't, you know, and the and the local municipalities won't do it.
00:33:10.000So the problem is the federal government needs to get the local municipalities and stuff to actually do their job.
00:33:16.000So let me ask you a quick ask quick question.
00:33:19.000When there is a uh, let's just say like a jurisdiction for lack of a better word, that um is not uh uh does not is not required to abide by the laws of a separate jurisdiction.
00:33:31.000It largely says we don't have not you don't have anything to do with us.
00:33:34.000There's there's two separate locations.
00:33:37.000When jurisdiction B sends armed men into jurisdiction A to enforce laws that jurisdiction A says we do not abide by.
00:33:49.000Um when they when they send people into the city.
00:33:53.000There are two there are two isolated jurisdictions, yeah, two isolated jurisdictions with separate laws, different worldviews, different rules.
00:34:03.000One city decides to arm a bunch of guys and send them into the other side by force against their will to enforce laws that the other city wants enforcement.
00:34:16.000If the argument is that California won't abide by federal law, has has ordered their people to defy federal law, is allowing individuals to defy federal law, they are not part of this country as it is.
00:34:27.000Part of this country means that your your structures, state, city, local, or otherwise, are going to uh abide by uh uh uh legal supremacy in this country up to the Constitution.
00:34:38.000What we are seeing right now, if this is the argument, is that blue states have just said absolutely not.
00:34:43.000And when Trump said this is our our election happened, people said immigration, we're gonna go and start rounding people up.
00:34:50.000At the at the governmental level, Gavin Newsom fought the the federal law federal law enforcement, ordering the National Guard not to listen to Donald Trump under his under his orders, which he's allowed to do because they're not enforcing the law.
00:35:04.000If our ICE agents, let's let's let's isolate it to ICE, are at a point where they're facing a threat from terrorists that have support from Democrat politicians who uh help fundraise for them, NGOs run by prominent Democrat donors, and in California, Gavin Newsom and local law enforcement lets these people attack federal facilities.
00:35:28.000I would call that akin to piracy, right?
00:35:32.000And uh at that point, I think it's very obvious when you break it down that way, we are in a civil war.
00:35:37.000Yeah, I just think like if you look from like Trump's perspective, right?
00:35:40.000He's tried to de-escalate this Charlie Kirk situation.
00:35:42.000That hasn't been like hard rhetoric, get retribution.
00:35:45.000And like in that article you were talking about, he he didn't mention civil war.
00:35:49.000He was just warning like from a very logical position, if you keep attacking the right, eventually they're gonna go, are we supposed to just sit and take it?
00:35:55.000That's kind of what he was saying there.
00:35:56.000He wasn't saying it from like a Republican position.
00:35:58.000So if you're Trump, you tell them to demask, which I believe that all federal employees, particularly Laura and Folsom, there should be that accountability, your face should be out there in an ideal world.
00:36:08.000We we we know that there's gonna be some sort of physical retribution, attacks on these people.
00:36:14.000Uh that's only gonna escalate the situation, right, to something that is gonna be more kinetic, that the potentially is gonna be far more divisive.
00:36:20.000I don't think he wants to be the president that has that is dealing with that on his plate.
00:36:24.000He wants to just get his policies done in the way which is most amical as possible as possible.
00:36:29.000They obviously don't want that, which is why we're in this situation now.
00:36:31.000But then I do not attack I give you two options then stop pussyfooting around and go and arrest all of them.
00:36:41.000Don't give me this excuse I'm scared I have to wear a mask.
00:36:45.000Send the law enforcement to kick the doors into the far left people that are threatening you and put them in prison then take your mask off.
00:36:51.000Agreed 100% I'm I'm sick of this half measure.
00:36:54.000I don't think that they have the ability to isolate the people that are actually making the that are that are likely to do like the doxing and stuff like that.
00:37:03.000That I think it's part of the problem.
00:37:04.000I don't care the the the the doxing is annoying but at the same time it is the individuals who carry out the the violence that are the real problem.
00:37:16.000We've been doxed and it's crazy what people are capable of.
00:37:20.000But the guy who posts my address is a problem the the guy who comes here to carry out the threat is the threat.
00:37:25.000But it's not a unitary organized like attack like so like you look at the the the you know alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk.
00:37:30.000I don't think there were as far as we're aware there weren't big indications that this was a guy who was militarized and violent and ready to assassinate.
00:37:38.000And if it was it seems from the evidence that I've seen it seems like it was something that was almost like a spur of the moment he hit a psychological breaking point and decided to do that.
00:37:46.000The more akin to random acts of violence is not like a big organized premeditated right we're going to get that guy we're going to get that.
00:37:51.000So it's much harder to tackle yes I get it.
00:37:53.000If your argument is any one of these individuals walking down the street at any moment might turn around and stab you then it's time for Trump to dissolve the U.S. Constitution under artic uh under under Presidential Directive 51 create a an enduring constitutional government under a single branch as as uh George W Bush's executive order in 2007 granted the executive branch power to do and then he can send out his masked militarized police force across the country to make sure this doesn't happen.
00:38:22.000But the argument that we are at a point where a random individual might pull out a gun and shoot you at any moment if that is the case it is worse than anyone realizes we are in an active civil war and instead of half assing it and being like just keep doing your job but hide in the meantime that's insane.
00:38:41.000How do you fight an idea like it's not a organized structure that Trump dissolves the United States and creates the first American empire and then he creates a massive multi-billion dollar federal police force that supersedes all the local governments and then starts searching people's homes and and I mean what what what is the argument to at any moment a random liberal might detonate a bomb or shoot somebody it's almost like a denazification program at that point.
00:39:04.000You'd have to go in and you'd have to gut the institutions it would be a complete like you said like it'd be a transformative measure.
00:39:10.000I don't think I don't think he's he's got the appetite for that.
00:39:30.000It could be too many people and even AOC is espousing the ideology that this guy shared that motivated him on the House floor.
00:39:37.000Okay let's let's let's try denazification so um how do we figure out who holds the ideology and is needing of a re-education well I mean we're going to follow the donors.
00:39:48.000We're going to see like the top down media who this this was a random guy at home like you mentioned it's a random you could look at the media he was consuming right you could you can see the groups that he's in the ideologies he's identifying with.
00:39:58.000Right so my question is how do you find him before he kills Charlie Kirk?
00:40:01.000That's almost like how do you stop a guy if it's almost like a thought crime before they they've done it.
00:40:05.000Agree you can't which is why I said the solution to the problem you're describing is Trump dissolving the the the three branches of government under Presidential Directive 51 creating an enduring constitutional government as prescribed by national security presidential directive presidential directive 51 and then he creates a federalized police force which goes and secures every street corner because we don't know at what point a liberal is going to just go start from at the mouth plot a gun and shoot a random person.
00:40:29.000Now I don't think we can live that way and I don't think anyone would tolerate that.
00:40:32.000So the idea is right now where are we?
00:40:35.000Law enforcement can't do their job because the threat of left wing terror is too great.
00:40:51.000There's no way we're going to find some random dude who's on Discord who one day decided to take his grandfather's gun and go assassinate Charlie Kirk, because they're just people walking around.
00:41:00.000If the radicalization is that bad, then the only answer is full-blown full-scale American empire.
00:41:06.000Like Trump has to go iron fist on the table right now before it actually comes to multifaction war across the United States.
00:41:15.000I would argue even Trump's base doesn't have the appetite for that.
00:41:18.000I mean, like this this is the point I'm making.
00:41:21.000To everybody who's like, no, law enforcement should wear masks.
00:41:23.000If your argument is we need our law enforcement to mask up because they fear that the left will attack them and will go after their families, we've lost.
00:41:34.000Like what we are describing is we are a diminished capacity force with scared federal law enforcement that are concerned that the might of leftist terror would overwhelm them and they won't be able to do their jobs, so they have to hide themselves.
00:41:48.000The reason why Antifa wear masks is because there is a more powerful state that can crush them, and they're trying to hide from it.
00:41:55.000But when communists take power, they put on uniforms.
00:41:58.000If the argument is our men in uniform have to hide, we are losing.
00:42:04.000I mean, I I know in the UK, for example, they would do this almost harassment of dissidents where before people could commit a crime.
00:42:11.000And it the UK's got a huge amount of these human rights problems.
00:42:14.000But one of the things that they did do fairly well, which has curbed rabbit radicalism, is when they see people expressing these ideological tendencies, they will get these knocks on the door.
00:42:22.000And the idea is that you're being watched, you're going to be less emboldened to go do something.
00:42:25.000But I fully disagree with that law because it can be massively abused.
00:42:32.000You're in a society that is so polarized now with such a lust for political violence on one side, and then the other side is kind of going, well, look, no no no cities burnt down when Charlie Kirk was killed.
00:42:44.000It's like, yeah, that's a great virtue, but when the other side literally wants you dead, what what what is the solution?
00:42:58.000Well, here's a story from the postmillennial.
00:42:59.000Trump signs order launching all of government effort to dismantle left-wing domestic terror groups.
00:43:05.000The post-millenni reports President Trump signed a memorandum on Thursday launching an administration-wide effort to dismantle left-wing domestic terror groups across the country.
00:43:12.000The order seeks to interdict the groups, block them performing from performing violent acts, and the administration will look at sources of funding.
00:43:41.000This is a very historic and significant day.
00:43:44.000This is the first time in American history that there is an all-of-government effort to dismantle left-wing terrorism, to dismantle Antifa, to dismantle the organizations that have been carrying out these acts of political violence and terrorism.
00:43:58.000What we have seen, if you look at whether it be going back to the riots that started with Black Lives Matter and all the way through to the Antifa riots, the attacks on ICE officers, the doxing campaigns, and now the political assassinations, isn't that lone isolated events?
00:44:12.000This is part of an organized campaign of radical left terrorism.
00:44:16.000It is structured, it is sophisticated, it is well funded, it is well planned.
00:44:20.000There is really no parallel like this anything to anything else in the country right now.
00:44:25.000There is an entire system of feeder organizations that provide money, resources, weapons, and when they're attacking ICE officers, they're attacking federal buildings, whether isolating public officials for harassment, doxing, intimidation, and ultimately attempted assassination.
00:44:41.000It is all carefully planned, executed, and thought through.
00:44:46.000Because of this executive order, cash and PAM are gonna have the tools they need working with Scott to take these organizations apart piece by piece.
00:44:54.000And the central hub of that effort is going to be the joint terrorism task force or JTTF, which sits inside the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
00:45:02.000But for those at home who are worried about terrorism in this country, they need to understand because of President Trump's strength, because of his vision, because of his leadership, we are now going to use the entire force of the federal government to uproot these organizations root and branch.
00:45:15.000And again, that's only possible because of President Trump and his leadership.
00:45:24.000I've decided that um You're doing this again.
00:45:27.000I shouldn't be showing my face because of the threats against me and my family.
00:45:31.000I think I have been convinced by the audience.
00:45:33.000The threats that we've received over the past week, even being completely uninvolved in anything related to TPUSA, have been so tremendous that my security team warned I wouldn't be able to travel.
00:45:47.000And a disguise wasn't necessarily an option because my travel itinerary stuff can be leaked as well, especially by employees who are doing load manifest.
00:45:56.000And uh the issue being that with prominent mainstream run-of-the-mill liberals posting that they wanted to see these deaths.
00:46:02.000The concern is you're absolutely right, Joseph, in what you were saying.
00:46:06.000We don't know which one of these people might just see a flight manifest and then send a message to a Discord saying Tim Pool's gonna be on this plane.
00:46:14.000So the the ultimate decision was we could buy four plane tickets, you, your wife, two security guards, you'll land, we'll have an S two two security guards waiting for you, four-person escort to an armored SUV, which will bring you to a hotel where we'll stand guard outside of your uh outside of the door for uh 24-7 security, be transported to the event where security will stay with you at all times, and then you will go back, you'll be confined to your hotel.
00:46:38.000I said, I don't think I want to do that.
00:46:40.000And uh they said uh you probably shouldn't travel.
00:46:44.000And you know, so I think I think everybody's correct in that I'm not a law enforcement guy.
00:46:49.000I'm just somebody with opinions and the threats are really great, and they're trying to figure out where I live.
00:47:01.000Um uh just uh because just I'm sorry to hear that, Tim.
00:47:04.000Um, but also in the political world, uh, we're talking about how anything can happen any time left wingers or liberal folks can get crazy right off the bat.
00:47:12.000Look at that young lady who got stabbed on the on the on the train.
00:47:15.000Anyone right now, today you walk in on the street, you get shot and killed by anyone by anyone anywhere.
00:47:20.000So it's just we're just focusing on the political world.
00:47:22.000I'll I'll be I'll be more serious about it.
00:47:24.000I I don't understand the argument that people are telling me I'm wrong about asking our law enforcement to stand firm and proud and fight for their country, and they're saying no, they should hide, but then expecting me to have to live in a box.
00:47:46.000I put on a blue t-shirt, took my hat off and put on glasses, and no one knew who I was.
00:47:50.000You walked and we're like, who is this guy?
00:47:52.000Yep, everybody, and then and then I walked up and they went, uh So uh, you know, I I I can be real, like if if this is the opinion people have honest question, why do you expect me to do this forward-facing publicly with my own name, where I'm worried about whether our food's being tampered with, we can't order food, we have to have bodyguards.
00:48:12.000Like, why am I living this way if our law enforcement gets special protections and privileges?
00:49:06.000I mean, those real-time AI voice changes.
00:49:08.000You're way more front-facing towards the political uh world than the cops are than one cop on the street, then one of the things that's a good thing.
00:49:13.000Which is which which my point would would be that most of these cops have substantially less risk than I do.
00:50:29.000I mean, look, Charlie got assassinated.
00:50:31.000Yeah, I I do I do actually think like anonymous or pseudonyms is like fine in the political space, and they're able to push ideas without fear of getting killed.
00:50:40.000I mean, people ultimately buy from people, and when they're, you know, you are disseminating ideas, they're buying into an idea, they're buying into, especially if you become a living embodiment of that idea.
00:50:50.000Um, I want to live in the way that he lives, because he seems really fulfilled.
00:50:54.000I understand what you're saying completely, like let's they should be demasked, but what that would be would be a giant gambit, and you would we we know what would happen.
00:51:02.000We would see families being targeted, we would potentially see these targeted assassinations, but it'd be on a much larger scale.
00:51:14.000There's no there is a risk that there's a risk department somewhere that there's an individual down and gone because they need to wear masks.
00:51:19.000Because there's a reason why they killed Charlie Kirk and not an individual ICE agent.
00:51:22.000There's tons of federal law enforcement, including guys that aren't wearing masks, just some of them are.
00:51:48.000The argument we're making is they will go to the home of the of the ICE agent.
00:51:52.000I mean, yeah, presumably if they're information, if they're privy to information at some point.
00:51:56.000I mean, you can go on LinkedIn and find this.
00:51:57.000I mean, it's in the cartel is a I mean, the case.
00:51:59.000You got you got you got you got a C BP facility here.
00:52:01.000You could just sit outside and collect license plates.
00:52:03.000I mean, the cart the cartel thing's important.
00:52:05.000We've seen like the assassination of various DEA agents, right?
00:52:08.000Like that that that happens a lot, right?
00:52:10.000They would be in the same realm as that.
00:52:12.000However, the difference is is that that is like you know, the cartels are a foreign organization.
00:52:16.000So it's seen as an external threat, foreign terrorist organization.
00:52:18.000Yeah, no, I think the cartels when it's on your own soil and it's your next door neighbor, it's the guy sitting next to you on the bus.
00:52:23.000It's it it's a completely different, almost like years of led type scenario.
00:52:27.000Uh yeah, if it if they do demask, that obviously not because there has been a risk risk management sort of assessment, probably like hundreds and hundreds of pages long that it's gone actually, it's probably best that these guys stay masked up.
00:52:38.000The reason why the left doesn't have any leaders, they actually do.
00:52:42.000Uh and I I will tell you this from literally being in these direct action meetings with leftists.
00:52:48.000They have leaders, the leaders organize, they supply money, tools, and then they say, I'm not your leader, and if anyone asks, I'm not in charge.
00:52:57.000When they go out to protest, you'll never see anybody directly leading the group because they they they say law enforcement will target any perceived leaders.
00:53:07.000So that's why they say Antifa is a leaderless movement.
00:53:35.000The idea that there's like a truly decentralized group of friends all holding hands, just being like, how many of you want to vote for a route that goes down Broadway and turns left at 45th?
00:54:25.000They're not stupid, they're highly sophisticated actors.
00:54:28.000These when they are doing these donations and they are sort of pushing these ideas and kind of giving someone a tap on the shoulder to do something, it's done in a way where they're not going to be held legally accountable.
00:54:37.000The donors themselves are the people that are actually making the donations, if they're in the small denomination, they likely do think, okay, I'm just doing this to help, because like the people that donated to Black Lives Matter, they were conned, and you know, those people they thought they were doing something good.
00:54:53.000But the people that are running the organization and and those people, you know, they have to file paperwork and and et cetera, those people you can wrap up, and those people the the DOJ can look into.
00:55:02.000Um and then any big donations, like you know, really sizable, hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, that's something the fed the feds can look into as well.
00:55:10.000What if Trump was like we're declaring Antifa a terrorist organization?
00:55:16.000All of those who are flying the symbols of Antifa, who are alleging uh pledging allegiance to or support for fair game.
00:55:28.000I think that that's yeah, I think that's the solution should be.
00:55:33.000But you're you're saying that like that means regular citizens going out, taking an uh individual action as a civilian against someone who's flying the anti-fa flag.
00:55:43.000I thought you were talking about law enforcement.
00:55:46.000I'm just saying, No, I'm saying Trump tells everyone in this country if you as an individual stop someone who's flying anti-fa like, but I mean, if so, sir.
00:55:58.000I I asked you a question, what if Trump did that?
00:56:00.000Uh that would that would be a terrible uh situation because Well, so the reason I ask that question is that Trump has a designated Antifa a terrorist organization.
00:56:10.000What does that mean if you are a a citizen of this country and you are walking down the street and you see a guy with a gun waving an ISIS flag?
00:56:19.000Will you go to jail if you stop that person?
00:56:23.000I that's why I'm asking what would happen.
00:56:25.000The point I'm making with the question is Trump has said Antifa are terrorists.
00:56:30.000What is the legal ramification of a of a citizen saying citizens arrest or citizen enforcement action against a terrorist flying a terrorist flag?
00:56:39.000Yeah, if you're a terrorist on my land, I have a right to stop you in my country from doing terror.
00:56:51.000I the the the that was waving one of the several flags, I'm not sure they're gonna say we get demonetized, but it's like, I'm sure I doubt a jury in a court would prosecute them for you know, this guy's waving with a firearm or whatever, and the he shoots him and preemptively stops upset terror.
00:57:12.000If the guy was actually if the guy was actually shooting at people in New York, there's a still a possibility that you would go to jail if you took them out.
00:57:20.000Well, I mean, that that's something that needs to be addressed on a federal level.
00:57:24.000I mean, I'm not familiar with the city.
00:57:25.000Well, and uh, it would be a local thing.
00:57:28.000The feds don't actually the feds wouldn't actually have jurisdiction over that.
00:57:31.000The blue states are in a soft succession right now, uh, because like they have sanctuary states, so they're softly succeeding, trying to, but they're not really doing it, but they're just it's really like it's like a soft civil.
00:57:40.000And if there's someone that's way if there's someone that's actually shooting or a or even probably menacing people with a gun, which means pointing a gun at someone, and you shot him in another in a state that has m like stand your ground laws or has the you know second amendment friendly, there's a possibility that you could convince a jury.
00:58:01.000No, he was going to hurt people, and I prevented him.
00:58:04.000Now that would be that would be dependent on the jury, but there is a possibility that look, here's the situation.
00:58:10.000He was saying these things, he was yelling these things, he was pointing his gun at people.
00:58:15.000You know, so I saw that, and I and I figured I needed to take action to defend someone else because he was going.
00:58:22.000I was in in legitimate fear for my life, and I believe that he was gonna cause permanent harm or death to someone else, so I Acted to prevent to end the threat because there was an ongoing threat.
00:58:34.000Now you can make that argument, and if you have a good lawyer and you are in front of a jury that's fairly friendly to the second amendment, and you're in a jurisdiction where there are people that are friendly to the second to the second amendment, you might be able to get you might be able to get justifiable homicide.
00:58:50.000But in a place like New Jersey, in a place like New York, that is not going to happen.
00:58:56.000So this is this is actually surprising.
00:58:57.000My cursory search, which is surprising to me, is that if there is a known foreign terrorist organization individual, ISIS is a great example who is flying the flag and armed and screaming while walking down the street.
00:59:12.000You have no legal right to do anything as a citizen against that person, be it stop them, detain them, uh or or or hurt them in any way.
00:59:21.000They're to be treated according to my cursory search as if they were any other citizen, no matter what.
00:59:27.000So I'm that sounds like something that needs to be dealt with, but obviously with the First Amendment right.
00:59:32.000Is it political expression if you if you're waving the flag?
00:59:35.000Everything that Tim said is true, but it still does depend on the jury.
00:59:40.000Yeah, well, you'll go you'll get arrested, you'll get charge of the city.
01:00:32.000Again, I think that it does depend it it depends a lot on the the even down to the locality.
01:00:38.000Because if you're in an urban area in a place like Virginia, you might not get the same kind of treatment from the the county sheriff or whatever that you would if you were in a more rural area.
01:00:48.000So do you think it's gonna be a case of perhaps Trump needs to encourage the red states to adopt legislation to facilitate this sort of you know citizens' arrest, you know, potentially if someone's holding around what kind of thing is.
01:01:01.000And also you're talking about this kind of like soft secession if you've got you know a de facto situation in blue states where these guys can walk around unattested and actually not just that but can continue to grow.
01:01:12.000It would have to be something from that Congress passes to have the force of law.
01:01:16.000And I don't know if that would stand because places like New York or New Jersey or or Illinois, they would fight that under Tenth Amendment grounds.
01:01:27.000They would say we we have the state's right to do that.
01:01:31.000I I I think as we discuss this and go through the math of everything we're we're looking at, the real underlying thing that everyone is just saying is we're in a civil war.
01:01:41.000I I think that it's across the West, there is an ideological war.
01:01:45.000I think that it is it's less of like a civil war, like you guys are here, you guys are there.
01:01:50.000I mean it is more of a years of led type scenario.
01:01:52.000But that's that that that that idea of you guys are here and we're there has never been a civil war ever.
01:01:56.000Well, I mean, the the the American Civil War.
01:01:58.000I mean, but the line and a track one place out of the Spanish civil war as well.
01:02:03.000But the American Civil War is the is not a civil war.
01:02:18.000But no, like they there were they were factions fighting, and there was no here and there.
01:02:22.000It was uh Franco from Morocco went up to the south of Spain, rallied uh uh uh hit troops to fight against other military, seized control of military assets, and then you saw certain areas that were leaning in one direction nationalist or republican, and the fighting was actually all over the country until militarized force were able to secure certain areas and then push out the far left.
01:02:43.000Yeah, but I mean even if you look at the Syrian Civil War, you can look at the live map.
01:02:52.000Yes, there might be some insurgencies within those cities, but that was like, okay, they've got their military units there, they've got their trucks.
01:03:05.000So the the American Civil War was actually a union fractured, a new union formed, and then the union, proper noun, uh huh, sent troops down to force the the separate union.
01:03:19.000So that that's very different from any other civil war ever throughout history.
01:03:23.000What the US uh the United States Civil War, they call it, is more akin to a standard war in Europe or something.
01:03:29.000It is it is more akin to a conventional war by two countries.
01:03:33.000That that's it, that's effectively what the American Civil War was.
01:03:35.000Well, I mean, the like the Spanish Civil War did have front lines.
01:03:38.000This city, this road, these trains were under our control on the other.
01:03:42.000There was still a differentiation whether you're under the nationalists.
01:03:45.000That's correct, because the Spanish Civil War was not a you're there and we're here.
01:03:50.000It was this city is controlled by the Republicans, this farmland and this ruler is by the nationalists.
01:03:54.000Down south, there's a pocket where we control in between, but the nationalists have this and the Republicans have this.
01:03:59.000Yeah, but I mean, in traditional civil wars, control is spread out all over in blotches.
01:04:03.000I mean, even in the Confederacy, there were unionists within the with who were living within the Confederate borders who are still like aiding the unionist side.
01:04:12.000Well, like as an insurgency, yes, but like de facto, like who was controlling law and the government.
01:04:15.000I'm just trying to clarify because the point I'm making is the United States Civil War is not a civil war by most historical standards.
01:04:22.000The fact that there was a North and South dividing line, a Mason Dixon line is solely unique to the American Civil War.
01:04:29.000Other civil wars throughout history had split control in various regions.
01:04:35.000There's northeastern, western, like when you look at the Spanish Civil War map and you watch how the militaries moved through areas, there were pockets over here that was nationalist, nationalist, nationalist.
01:04:44.000The nationalists was largely like rural areas, the Republicans were largely urban areas, and they were split up all over the place.
01:04:49.000Initially, but then they did become, they did consolidate forces after initial period.
01:04:53.000Franco and his troops started crushing the left and moving through, they gained more control.
01:05:17.000It wasn't it wasn't like people in Texas were like, rah, we hate the Union.
01:05:21.000It was like, well, look, for all intents and purposes, we are part of the Confederacy.
01:05:24.000In Maryland, they actually were uh one third sympathetic to the South.
01:05:28.000So it wasn't it and and it's still a very important thing.
01:05:31.000But I mean that there was still what I was trying to get is there were still geographical states and regions which were considered, you know, under the control of uh of those governments or forces, right?
01:05:38.000And that's true today, right now in the United States.
01:05:40.000In the U.S., well, yes, I'm no like I don't think that like the the governor, like like Gavin Newsom, for example, is going to come out on the complete side of like he he denounced the murder of uh uh of Charlie Cook.
01:05:50.000Like he's not on the same parallel as the sort of people that Trump's sort of fighting here.
01:05:54.000I don't think like they might share the same ideological realm, but do I think Gavin Newsom is involved on grassroots level anti for, you know, guys going in and assassinating politicians?
01:06:03.000I think it they they they share the same ideological space, so as a result, they they don't they don't even want to give an inch of ground because if they give an inch of ground against the left, then who then flood against the left.
01:06:13.000Then that's a good distinction to determine when we're actually in a civil war is when you actually have a policy from a state defy the jurisdiction of the federal government and say we will not abide by your rules.
01:06:28.000Which I guess your argument is gonna be with like the sanctuary city stuff.
01:06:31.000Well, I guess never mind, that's probably not a good distinction because that literally is what all of them are doing.
01:06:42.000We have political assassinations, we've got California allowing far leftists to firebomb and attack federal law enforcement with impunity.
01:06:49.000Uh in the Pacific Northwest, they do the same thing.
01:06:51.000Portland uh local law enforcement isn't stopping these guys.
01:06:54.000They've let them do it for now three months, I think it's been going on uh in Portland, and uh the feds are trying to stop it.
01:07:01.000It's not to the point where Gavin Newsom says go and arrest those federal agents, but Gavin Newsom just ordered federal agents to take their masks off.
01:07:11.000So the the question then is we're looking at this gradient to try and figure out when it is technically a civil war, but I can say this.
01:07:19.000We are in a period of assassinations where the mainstream political faction of the left celebrates it.
01:07:26.000Uh, or they lie about it, or they defend it.
01:07:29.000The ideology That motivated the assassin is espoused on the floor of our own congressional house by the most famous Democrat, in my opinion, AOC.
01:07:37.000You can make arguments about any of the other Democrats, but they've largely waned.
01:07:40.000And as pertains to law enforcement, the California government is letting far leftists organize and firebomb federal uh facilities.
01:07:49.000It's California, Oregon and Washington have been doing this for years.
01:07:52.000Newsom tried to commandeer control of the National Guard away from Donald Trump and has now ordered federal law enforcement to abide by his rules and take their masks off.
01:08:12.000You know, it's it's what we've been calling we've been calling it civil unrest for, you know, but I'm I'm asking like when is the when is the when does it become a heap of sand?
01:08:20.000If Gavin Newsom, he just came out and said he what where they passed the law, right?
01:08:24.000Mandating authority over federal law enforcement, which they don't have the authority to do, and they're threatening federal law enforcement with arrest.
01:08:31.000So it's it's all about Trump Trump's response, right?
01:08:34.000Trump would have a I imagine I'm not as well versed in American politics as you guys, but he would have somewhat of a mandate to go, okay.
01:08:40.000Well, this state is acting in in rebellion of the union.
01:08:43.000I'm sure there's some sort of legal prerequisites where where he could potentially justify federalizing it, whatever, whatever whatever it may be.
01:08:52.000But I'm sure there's still a huge amount of legal frameworks to go through to try and resolve it before it gets to a point of actually there is no discussion.
01:08:58.000It's like we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that, and we're an impasse.
01:09:04.000California bans most law enforcement officers from wearing masks during operations.
01:09:08.000California became the first state to ban most law enforcement officers, including federal immigration agents from covering their faces while conducting official business under a bill that was signed Saturday by Governor Gavin Newsom and swiftly denounced by Trump administration officials.
01:09:20.000The ban is a direct response to recent immigration raids in LA, where federal agents wore masks while making mass arrests.
01:09:25.000The raids prompt in days of protest and led Trump to deploy National Guard troops and Marines.
01:09:32.000Law enforcement being dispatched to California is now being uh it is forbidden for them to wear masks while in conducting federal law enforcement.
01:09:42.000Do you believe the government of California will enforce this law against federal law enforcement?
01:09:54.000I mean, like we saw in the 60s something somewhat similar in the civil rights era where the feds crack down on states for not you know not playing ball, and then the federal government won.
01:10:32.000If if Gavin Newsom arrests federal law enforcement, we are in new territory.
01:10:39.000That's a hundred percent the line, yeah.
01:10:41.000I think the the the the struggle we have with the concept of civil war is no one knows when you're in a civil war.
01:10:47.000Throughout history, every single civil war that they have always argued and debated whether or not they were actually in a conflict.
01:10:52.000And as we bring up famously, we historically look back at Fort Sumter as the beginning of the American Civil War, but the people who lived in the country at the time didn't even think we were in one and went and picnicked at the first battle of Bull Run.
01:11:05.000Because they didn't think a civil war was happening.
01:11:07.000And then the Confederates won, routed the North, sent them packing, and then thought the war ended.
01:11:32.000So I don't know that we'll actually know until we're well into it.
01:11:36.000In fact, I believe they called it uh what do they call it?
01:11:40.000First it was like a rebellion in the South.
01:11:41.000Then it was called a conflict between states, and then I think it was like a year later or a year or two, they started calling it the Civil War.
01:11:49.000I mean, it is reasonable to say that it's possible, like right now, like looking back, you know, they'll say that now was the beginning of it, that the assassinations, that the the first shots that were fired were actually people assassinating other people and taking shots at law enforcement and stuff like that.
01:12:05.000I mean, even though it's a good thing.
01:12:06.000Well, take a take a look at this on phone.
01:12:09.000Uh Charlie Kirk's murder could become another Fort Sumter.
01:12:12.000You know, the fact that this is something that the respectable journalists are talking about now, the Hill, um, which is absolutely legacy media.
01:12:22.000Um to call this, you know, far fetched now now, with all these all of these attacks on ICE facilities with the attempts on Trump with the murder.
01:12:32.000This is no longer the the stuff of a can I can I can I can I cash out like a 50 leg parlay or something on this one?
01:12:39.000I'm going back seven years on this boys.
01:12:41.000I mean, I'm I'm gonna play a bit of devil's advocate here.
01:12:42.000I think that a lot of these legacy media are coming out with these very sensationalist headlines because they are losing to independent media and they can't keep up.
01:12:49.000The people aren't interested in clicking some like really kind of like boring white bread uh sort of headlines anymore.
01:12:54.000Like everybody's so sort of brain rotted from the scrolling, everything's sensationalized, will ball three every other week that they kind of have been pushed towards this more radical discourse.
01:13:03.000But the the the the knock on effects of reading stuff like that, it are very real.
01:13:07.000It's right, it does put it in people's heads.
01:13:08.000It's true, but if there weren't so many people that have died, there weren't so many attacks.
01:13:15.000There, I mean, like we're there were four ice facilities attacked since August 1st, probably I think actually in the past three weeks.
01:13:22.000So four are no no no, it's been like it's like with three attacks in three months.
01:13:28.000I googled it last night before when I did the intro, and it was four.
01:13:30.000I actually I did it on Grok, and it was four attack four ice facilities attacked since August 1st, is what I checked.
01:13:37.000Um I asked how many how many ice facilities had been attacked.
01:13:40.000Um so yeah, like whether or not there were people killed, not all of them had casualties, but there were four ice attacks or four ice facilities attacked since August 1st.
01:13:53.000So in the past two months, like you have Charlie Kirk that was murdered, you have uh Donald Trump that was the assassination attempt that was just over a year ago.
01:14:02.000Then there was you you can say that the attacks I don't think that the attack, uh the murder of the the Minnesota lawmaker was actually politically motivated, but there are people that'll swear up and down that it was.
01:14:13.000Um this is this is something that is not ha uh like unusual at this point in time.
01:14:19.000Like this is something that is is become almost commonplace.
01:14:24.000Just I mean, people are waking up saying, Hey, am I gonna see am I gonna find out that there was another another you know political murder in the country?
01:14:30.000Yeah, I mean even like the Epstein stuff with like the lawyers disappearing and like dying and these suicides, I think like that it has become a lot more of a violent political atmosphere in America.
01:14:41.000Yeah, I mean, there's always become normalized to you almost you're not surprised now.
01:14:45.000Like if if I sort of know this assassination, I don't think I'm gonna have the same reaction that I did to to Charlie Kirk's.
01:14:49.000I'm I'm somewhat expectant that seeing the level of praise that it's had from the left that someone is gonna do a copycat attack.
01:14:56.000Because they're gonna hit that sort of like cult status.
01:15:30.000So um, and I guess CPP isn't really count.
01:15:32.000So it it's three since August 1st, broad, and then violent attacks like rifle long range, those terror attacks, I think it's three and three months.
01:15:41.000On June 29th, when they got the 20-year-old set the fire and he killed the the fireman.
01:15:46.000He killed the chief of police and John Morrison.
01:16:20.000The reason why we say bloody September is it uh it condenses all of the ideas of the attacks into a single phrase, which can invoke that knowledge.
01:16:29.000That's so it's it's a zip file for memory.
01:16:48.000The uh gen alpha is half the size of Millennial and Gen Z. That's that's the problem.
01:16:54.000Uh but is up, but it's all is on the conservative side though, because I I've never seen this many young families of like guys in their twenties married, kids highly Christian.
01:17:03.000But even even with that trend among Gen Cen Alpha is 40 million.
01:17:10.000That is half the size of uh of uh millennials and and gen, I think they're calling it gen Bravo because nobody likes beta is is just starting now.
01:17:19.000Meaning our economy is fried no matter what we do.
01:17:23.000When you and and you now have a large cohort of young, single, childless men.
01:17:48.000But I turned how old was I 22 or 23 when the financial crisis happened?
01:17:52.000So sleeping on couches, I didn't even realize at the time something was wrong.
01:17:58.000I I lived with like nine dudes, a bunch of college-age dudes in this massive loft where we all spent a couple hundred dollars because it was cheap.
01:18:05.000And it was like six bedrooms, and uh I was in the pantry.
01:18:57.000Yeah, the one saving the one saving grace is that young it's not a saving grace, it's actually a very sad thing.
01:19:02.000But young men's like hormones are completely nuked.
01:19:05.000So a lot of them don't even have the testosterone required to like sign up for like a f like a full-blown civil war, you're just gonna get insurgents from the left.
01:19:13.000The right wing guys are actually like a big thing.
01:19:15.000The one thing that I'm really surprised that well, the one thing that I think we should expect as things escalate would be like more bombings, because that was something that was really common in the in the 70s, in the early 70s, late 60s, the weathermen and stuff, they there were over a thousand bombings in between nineteen seventy and nineteen seventy-two.
01:19:39.000And that that's something that hasn't taken, you know, you haven't seen a lot of uh, thankfully.
01:19:44.000Um but as thing as tensions rise and you have f people that aren't as suicidal looking to to harm um you know their political opponents, that's the kind of thing that I think we we need to be concerned with as like the next level.
01:20:00.000If if the if that does start becoming something that's common, then you know that I feel like that's the the next escalation or would be looked at as the next excellent.
01:20:08.000The reason we're not seeing it is there's three reasons.
01:20:10.000The first is it requires coordination to some degree.
01:20:12.000I know there's obviously lone wolves over the years, but it requires a degree of coordination with others.
01:20:17.000Two is people are like not smart enough to assemble these.
01:20:20.000I mean, I know you can like follow directions online and stuff, but there's actually a lot of stories of people blowing them up in their house and chat GPT.
01:20:26.000I know that, but I'm saying people like are blowing themselves in houses.
01:20:29.000Like if you look it up, it happens somewhat frequently.
01:20:32.000And then the third is that the government's actually done a pretty good job of making it difficult to collect the materials you would need to put together a body.
01:20:38.000Yeah, that's one thing that I think is is a good point.
01:20:40.000The the the base materials to do this stuff, like the government is actually watching for people that purchase certain things in order or whatever.
01:20:52.000The fourth would be uh to your points would be and the Phil's point um that they are more suicidal, unfortunately nowadays than they were back in the day.
01:21:00.000Back in the 60s or 70s, 70s, you were saying they probably had more reasons to live, but nowadays they're sitting in their house all by themselves in the bedrooms on 4chan and Reddit, and you know, they know their uh mental health is way worse.
01:21:11.000It's a bit grim, but someone made an important it's just an important distinction, is typically a shooter is planning on not making it out of the operation versus a bomber, they're planning to go on the run, and there's gonna be a manhunt to find them.
01:21:22.000So that's the kind of the distinction is you're dealing with a death cult and ultimately they just want to get out of this world, they feel nothing inside versus a bomber.
01:21:28.000There's like an ideology, like you think something's something's important enough to maybe try and do it again.
01:21:33.000It's like uh um uh a bushnel you're talking about earlier to uh today.
01:21:43.000The only the only the only thing on the left, the only thing they value from young white men is like martyrdom.
01:21:49.000As like the only thing you can provide for the left if you're like a young white guy, is like suicide for the cause versus the right, they're just like, Yeah, we can use you here, we can use you here.
01:21:58.000Turning point USA, we'll get you right in here.
01:22:17.000Uh the crazy thing is, as we were mentioning, like did you guys even know that in Maine someone tried running over a C BP agent?
01:22:23.000In Chicago, an illegal immigrant tried running over a uh a uh one one of the ice guys, so he shot him and killed him.
01:22:29.000I think that happened in Florida like a day later.
01:22:31.000So all of these are happening on top of uh the political violence that's high level.
01:22:37.000Then you've got the low-level riot stuff that often doesn't break to national news.
01:22:41.000You've got the ongoing riots that are happening in Portland that they just started arresting these people, it's been sustained for some time.
01:22:49.000Uh you had the ramming in uh New Orleans.
01:22:58.000That's where we were playing my wife and I were planning on going to New Orleans.
01:23:01.000And at the last minute, we changed our mind and didn't go.
01:23:05.000And then we saw the news and we were like, we would literally be right there.
01:23:09.000And didn't that one uh young kid get run over uh by that old man up in Washington or something in an alleyway because he was a Republican a couple of years ago.
01:23:16.000I think we washed remember that he got ran over for being a um not.
01:23:20.000I don't know if it was Washington, but there was a kid that got yeah, yeah.
01:23:23.000I think I think the the distinction though is like as you were saying before, it's they're not organized.
01:23:27.000There's they seem to be emotional outbursts, which I mean I had myself in the UK where we were putting up the flags, and some guy literally just some boomer left abandoned his car on the side of the road, came running over and tried pushing us off a ladder that was like you know two to almost three stories high.
01:23:41.000Luckily, we we spotted him and we were able to bail to the right, which was a grass verge rather than the left, which was a main road.
01:23:46.000But if he'd have come up from behind, I don't know.
01:23:49.000If we hit a head on the road, one of us could have died.
01:23:52.000He wasn't thinking, it was an irrational emotional moment.
01:23:54.000I almost felt sorry for the guy because he got himself so wound up, he's clearly so like stuck in his head and sort of enthralled by this ideology that he feels like it's worth to just like kind of crash out and break that mundaneness of his life up.
01:24:05.000Uh they they do see themselves as these revolutionaries, particularly that sort of like boomer generation, which I saw the guy who um tried assassinate in Trump.
01:24:12.000I think he was actually he did he get indicted uh or like uh charged to uh Roth, yeah.
01:24:16.000The Roth, yeah, he got uh counts or something like that.
01:24:18.000It's like they grew up in like the 70s where like you know, they were the counterculture, that hippie culture.
01:24:23.000They believed the world was gonna be John Lennon's imagination.
01:24:25.000It's just like, well, you know, reality check, that it doesn't work.
01:24:29.000Um the world's never gonna be like that.
01:24:30.000But in their head, there's still this like they're sticking it to the man.
01:24:34.000We're actually like the counterculture is coming from the right, particularly in Europe, and I it kind of has happened now, it's become the mainstream.
01:24:39.000Um, but but again, going back to my previous point, it's not sad, organized.
01:24:44.000It's like, yeah, it's just like it is yeah, it is this lone wolf, like sad attacks of people who are probably pretty depraved individuals who actually just need help.
01:24:53.000Yeah, uh, but how how do you get help to those people?
01:24:55.000Because they sit and they fest them and it's all online.
01:24:57.000They need help, but they nihilism, which is petrified.
01:24:59.000Yeah, they're they need help, but they have to be open to help.
01:25:02.000Which is they don't believe they need help.
01:25:05.000They well, I mean, yeah, they they're not open to being helped.
01:25:08.000So if if someone's not going to look, you can you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink, right?
01:25:13.000You can tell people, look, here's here, this will actually make you feel better.
01:25:17.000This is actually these are positive steps that you can do to not feel hopeless, to not feel like there's no uh there's no meaning in life, but that doesn't mean they're gonna do it.
01:25:27.000It doesn't mean they're gonna take the steps that you're that you're that you're recommending.
01:25:31.000And it's likely that they're gonna be hostile to you for recommending it.
01:25:34.000Well, I'm saying like the left is already fairly organized, but they're not organized in a violent way, uh as far as we know right now.
01:25:39.000Unless I mean this we'll see what comes of this Charlie Kurt case.
01:27:49.000I mean, just a lot going on this year.
01:27:51.000We we need to get a comprehensive list of all of the terror attacks for this year, so we can have this in a in like a a a Google document database to s to actually start tracking this.
01:28:30.000I mean, I think there is a certain degree of when things haven't gone fatal, perhaps it's just been an attack on the street.
01:28:35.000These things either don't go reported or like I I I've seen it by myself at like political rallies in the in the UK that you know a leftist might throw something at some off a rock and it might hit someone that might get hurt, but they don't actually report it to the police because they're like thick skin, and you know, I I want to handle this myself.
01:28:50.000I'm not gonna I don't trust the police, I'm not gonna file it.
01:28:53.000So this it'd be interesting to see the the the real numbers uh just behind this sort of low-level violence in the streets.
01:29:00.000Yeah, you watch like um Nick Shirley's video when he he like tracked the ice raid in Minneapolis and they were like going through the street, and people were like pelting the cops with like just trash and rocks and that sort of thing.
01:29:12.000But since it was such a chaotic environment and ice was just doing an operation, they're getting in and getting out, there's not like a huge federal police presence.
01:29:19.000So all those I mean, maybe they followed up on it.
01:29:22.000I'm sure they did, but at least for what the public knows, all that wasn't counted.
01:29:26.000It's like if you started counting all of these like just attacks on officers that are taking place during these ice raids that we're seeing being documented, like it would be outstanding the amount of the amount of leftist violence that's been.
01:29:37.000They cancel woman who pu who punched one of the agents.
01:29:40.000Yeah, oh yeah she's got in trouble, I forget her name.
01:29:46.000So that's another, you know, like like can we just stress this when we're when when we blame Gavin Newsom for his rhetoric and then the ice terror attack, can we just point out like a Democrat in Congress punched a a federal law enforcement a agent, like literally punched him on camera, I think more than Once.
01:33:25.000So they were really happy when uh uh the grand juries didn't indict other people.
01:33:30.000They were like, Yeah, no, didn't he get indicted because they were wrong?
01:33:33.000Well, he got indicted, like you said, so I'm going on there.
01:33:36.000You know, uh, I hope everybody goes out and votes like their country depends on it because Comey is right.
01:33:42.000Um, what Comey did, these people are abject evil.
01:33:46.000And uh my only fear in all of this is that Trump is not Superman.
01:33:53.000My fear is that Donald Trump is actually a bit of a hothead, and um, I think he is motivated largely by personal interest, and we need to win.
01:34:22.000They said, if you even try to defend Trump, we will send you to prison.
01:34:27.000The fact that they went after his his lawyers is should be something that makes people take notice, right?
01:34:35.000Obviously, the far left are gonna they're gonna say, well, it was the right thing to do no matter what.
01:34:39.000But the fact that they went after the people that are he that he constitutionally has a right to def a defense and the people that were there to provide that constitutionally protected right, they went after them and indicted them and charged them as co-conspirators.
01:34:56.000So I don't I don't I mean and if if they're willing to do that to Trump in a very public-facing way, imagine what would go on behind closed doors, right?
01:35:03.000Like we we see it in the UK, these cases which they're not high profile people, they just you know, guys on the ground, individual activists being pressured in into into a guilty plea of stuff they didn't do, uh, and that their lives are ruined and they're kept in awful condition, sometimes kept in solitary because you know general population is so hostile towards them.
01:35:20.000We've got a huge like problem with Islamic gangs in the in the in the prisons in the UK.
01:35:24.000And if they find out you're a far right racist or whatever they want to call you, you they will kill you.
01:35:29.000Like, so so you you know, you're not just going to a normal prison, you're in solitary.
01:35:33.000And that that that could be a reality here where the It is.
01:36:04.000So uh rumble.com slash Timcast IRL for the uncensored portion, but for now we're gonna grab your chats.
01:36:10.000Before you jump to that, there's uh USA today about an hour ago was reporting that NORA had scrambled fighters to intercept Russian planes off of Alaska.
01:36:18.000Yeah, I thought that was just an I thought that was an echo.
01:36:21.000No, what are they what do they call that in Minority Report?
01:36:24.000Yeah, I forget what it's called, but yeah, uh I it might have been an echo, but yeah, so they're they're you know there's all this talk about the the I think it's whatever, all of the top generals and their staff coming to Quanaco next on the 30th, and there's also talk of of you know conflict with Russia, Russia's foreign mister Minister Lavr, I think it's foreign minister Lavrov is his name, but he uh he was saying that NATO and the United States are already in a war with Russia.
01:36:54.000Um, yeah, but this is more just raising the tensions.
01:37:00.000Oh, they're the the the pizza index is through the roof.
01:37:02.000Yeah, they're they're yeah, hexeth Heggseth has called in a meeting of like all military personnel, like, let's go, baby.
01:37:09.000So maybe the stuff that's going on in the US won't matter.
01:37:11.000Maybe we'll have to try to P.S. Oopy says DJ T needs to need to do an address over all this violence and division.
01:37:21.000He needs to come out and just call this what it is.
01:37:22.000He needs to be he needs to open, transparent, and make it clear that now is a time for choosing.
01:37:28.000The left is doing all the violence this whole year, and when Trump comes out and says that the left is doing violence, they go, How could you accuse us?
01:38:24.000But I mean, like when I was at the Charlie Cup Memorial on Sunday, um, speaking to people, all the speeches were like, we didn't burn down anything.
01:38:41.000So that they're already demoralized in in in that sense.
01:38:44.000And that they don't think JD Vance is even gonna, and these are the the diehard people, these are the people who are gonna come to the events.
01:38:49.000People flew from all over America to come here.
01:38:51.000You know, some of them were uh pretty big donors, and even there, like he's he's not doing enough.
01:38:58.000He could have come out and said Something very much like, you know, 250 years ago or whatever, several men fought against tyranny to birth this great nation, blah blah blah.
01:39:10.000And then he could have said a young man was, but he kind of just went off the cuff and did his Trump thing.
01:39:14.000It's like talking about autism, Tylenol.
01:39:16.000Well, I mean, it's like we're talking about we're discussing civil war, all this sort of thing.
01:39:20.000It's like the margin is actually kind of thin for Trump speech writers.
01:39:22.000Like he has to actually be somewhat incisive with what he says because you know, there's a lot of rider dies.
01:39:28.000So Finn Zup says it's not rumors, I'm pretty certain he publicly announced he's gonna have the DOJ looking at Soros.
01:39:44.000I think I think I think they know what she's doing.
01:39:46.000Mike Davis actually was tweeting about that.
01:39:48.000He's like, She's got more balls than all of the guys in DC combined.
01:39:52.000And Mike Davis is I mean, I feel like he's a pretty straight shooter.
01:39:56.000And like at the at the end of the day, this is just an upgrade because they listen to Trump.
01:40:00.000I mean, is I mean you're new around here?
01:40:02.000We remember the first term how that went.
01:40:03.000It's like, these people listen to Trump, and then do you really want to go through another nomination process just to get someone that's gonna be just as effective or whatever you think should happen.
01:40:11.000Leatherhead says, Did anyone else see Alex Jones's channel is already deleted in YouTube?
01:40:15.000Indeed, as well as Nick Fuentes's, and then YouTube issued a statement saying, Wait, wait, we said we were gonna unban people, but not yet.
01:40:26.000I think they're actually lying and sent that letter to Jim Jordan just so that he would shut up and he posts it, and they're like, uh Oops.
01:41:46.000Uh I will give someone one million dollars, it will make it a game show, and then we have the entirety of the left.
01:41:56.000You'll there will be, you know, I don't know, 3,000 people online in any given day saying they're coming for you to kill you and posting your address, going on shows, lying about you, and your goal is to figure out how to use that.
01:42:20.000I'm pretty sure that if you go to the average person and say we're gonna give you a million dollars, but you'll be hunted down and everyone will be trying to kill you.
01:42:25.000They're probably gonna be like, No, I don't I don't know that I want that.
01:42:55.000I can pay a couple grand mortgage and I can easily do behind the scenes social media marketing work for, I don't know, 90,000 a year somewhere and be perfectly happy playing online poker or something.
01:43:07.000You shouldn't let the uh chat decide because the chat is full of trolls.
01:43:12.000These are these are routine super chatters saying that I should accept that because I have money, I should have to live under the threat of death from the far left on a regular basis.
01:43:21.000When I would much prefer not to have that as a at that risk at all.
01:43:24.000And I'm being told that our own law enforcement who chose to go into direct conflict with terrorists, should be afforded More more protections than I. Or or maybe that's not a fair assessment, but that I should accept the circumstances and the money that comes along with it will pay for the security while I'm restricted from.
01:43:42.000Man, when I when I was working for like when I was working for some of these other companies, like Vice, for instance, and I got to fly, I was on a flight twice a week and 60,000 followers or whatever, getting paid six figures.
01:43:57.000I didn't have anything to worry about.
01:44:55.000Like you you you you saw the responses people calling for Trump stuff even prior to his election, you saw the response from the left towards these sort of more conservative pundits, people who were aligned with Trump.
01:45:16.000I didn't go online and make videos saying here's what's going on and here's how the news media works, so that Antifa would post my image and threaten to beat me up, and then a bunch of people threaten to attack me until one guy said, Lay off them and don't start fights at the skate park.
01:45:28.000But I mean, just being in the public realm in general, people like will like people someone killed John Lennon, right?
01:45:58.000Right, but he he was willing to die for that.
01:46:00.000That's why he remained on college campuses despite having this multi-multi-million dollar organization which was able to that's that's kind of a crazy thought if you think about it.
01:46:08.000Like he was willing to die, and his wife and children were also there as well.
01:46:14.000In this in this area where he has to have security is a great risk to him and his family for what he was willing to do.
01:46:50.000Yeah, it was like late 20s, early 30s, but there Ben Frank was a little older, and then there were some younger guys.
01:46:57.000But there were the uh some of the founding fathers, their children were ki captured, their one guy's wife was taken from him, one guy's kid betrayed the family and to serve the crown.
01:47:05.000And uh, you know, there are men in this country who know that they will step into the fray and this will put not only their lives at risk, but their blood, treasure, honor, and family.
01:47:16.000And that's what the founding fathers were were uh willing to do.
01:47:20.000I I wish we had more men like that in this country.
01:47:22.000I think it's it's a very Christian thing.
01:47:24.000It's a very Christian thing of being able to, you're willing to die, and this what is the whole death to the world thing, it's easier said than done.
01:47:30.000But you don't do things that will increase your risk of death.
01:48:48.000And they're unwilling to take any risks to themselves, their family, they just want the money.
01:48:52.000I don't think that's they're trying to mitigate that on that.
01:48:55.000They're they're putting their lives on the line.
01:48:56.000They're going into like drug dens, they're going to why offer them $50,000 to do the like why do you need to offer $50,000 to somebody to come and take this job to do it?
01:49:20.000It sounds like you are not someone who says, for my country.
01:49:23.000Well, they're still taking on a lot of risks.
01:49:25.000The masks are so they can still do their jobs.
01:49:27.000Like, yeah, it would be terrible it's more, it would be just terrible for ICE if their agents kept getting mowed down because they're not masking.
01:49:33.000Like it's like we're trying to get a job done.
01:49:35.000We're trying to get all the illegals out, and masking helps push that goal forward.
01:49:43.000I'm just pointing out that if someone says, I don't want to do the job, how about 50 grand?
01:49:46.000Sure, I'll do it, but can I wear a mask that no one knows who I am?
01:49:48.000It's like that's not somebody who's like America will stand for eternity.
01:49:52.000Well, I mean, that's the that's protocol.
01:49:54.000I mean, right by right now, like I don't think it's it's it's a choice of the individual to not wear a mask.
01:49:58.000I'm I might be completely wrong, but I imagine that's a different argument.
01:50:00.000I but I imagine I imagine right now it's protocol, but even if you do like 50% of these guys, they are willing to have their face out there, to take those risks, you're still gonna diminish the force which is needed to go and get the job done.
01:50:12.000I'm I'm saying even masks are not, that's still like a very noble thing.
01:50:15.000Like I'm not saying literally every ICE officer hates this country and is doing it for money.
01:50:19.000I'm saying the officers that don't want the job but were offered 50 grand and said, Okay, I'll take it, but let me wear a mask, are the people who are just in it for the job.
01:50:25.000I don't think they're people that that's just what gets them over the edge.
01:50:29.000But I think signing up for ICE, period.
01:50:31.000I'm not even trying to like do a rah-rutchest beating to like dunk on people.
01:50:34.000I'm just saying legitimately joining ICE as as like a decision, it's very noble because it's an inherently dangerous job.
01:50:41.000For the same reason police officers, like I don't think I don't think it's like a terrible thing.
01:50:45.000The NYPD has a little bit better incentives, like makes sense.
01:50:48.000It's a very dangerous city to work in.
01:50:50.000Like you you gotta reward people for like the risk they're taking.
01:50:54.000I mean, I understand, but it's also ICE is like not joining ICE is not great for your lifestyle.
01:50:59.000Like you usually have to move to some pretty nasty communities oftentimes.
01:51:02.000But what I what what is most offensive to me about the general conversation is that you know, I stumbled into this when I started making videos and doing this, I wasn't making money doing it, I was losing money.
01:51:14.000I left ABC Univision and I had savings, and I was losing money to cover these stories to you know, travel to travel to Sweden was a massive loss.
01:51:25.000Then I started making YouTube videos at a massive loss.
01:51:27.000I started getting th threats from antifa on the far left the whole time, losing money.
01:51:31.000And it wasn't until like a year and a half later I finally cracked into the black and I was even and then I started working really hard and and and making more money, and then with that I had to hire more people, eventually bring on you know security, then I had to move, get away from the cities, all of which were ancillary to me just speaking out.
01:51:53.000And then I'm told that and and this happens all the time, how how lucky I am for it.
01:51:58.000When I'm like, I just wanted to fucking live in a van down by the river, dude.
01:52:10.000Okay, so you you put the country before the money, but did you not also consider like And other people won't, and I'm told I should have to while other people don't.
01:52:18.000I ask for a few good men to stand up, wave the flag and say, I will die for my country, and then I'm told no, Tim, no Tim, you're wrong.
01:52:26.000Other people shouldn't have to do that.
01:52:38.000They're just guys with a very simple job, which is a very good thing.
01:52:40.000I think the risk to them is substantially less in the broad sense.
01:52:44.000In the in the immediacy of the job of ICE, they face tremendous risk that I do not, which I have tremendous respect for, which is why they carry guns, they have armor, protocol, APCs, helicopters, all that good stuff.
01:52:54.000And that isn't that is an incredibly important job, and I'm glad people are doing it.
01:52:58.000If the argument is in the in the greater sense, I should be willing to accept threats and death threats and all that stuff.
01:53:08.000My my simple statement was maybe I shouldn't do this.
01:53:12.000But I mean, so like these ice guys are still part of that risk is they get doxxed, right?
01:53:17.000Yeah, they're they're wearing masks on the job, but there is still a risk that you know someone speaks to somebody else, he's an ICE officer and his doc still gets out there.
01:54:06.000People buy people buy ideas from people.
01:54:08.000People want to have how want that parasocial relationship of you know going and watching your show, feeling like they know you, yeah, like kind of growing that thought process with you, consuming the news at the same time as you.
01:54:18.000That's uh a human interaction, like AI and faceless content can't replace that.
01:54:22.000These guys have successfully be able to.
01:54:23.000I don't think there is a personality that got into this for the well, I don't think there's a personality on the right that got into this business hoping to form parasocial relationships with people so that people would like them and follow them.
01:54:37.000That's not that's not the intended effect.
01:54:38.000On the left, I think that's basically all that.
01:54:39.000But but I mean, like you see when you were trying to get into the black as you were discussing earlier.
01:54:44.000You will want you obviously needed to work harder.
01:54:46.000What are you working harder consists of?
01:54:47.000I imagine it putting out more content, putting in higher quality content out, and also sort of building your persona as an online figure, putting out more tweets, putting out more content.
01:54:55.000Because that parasocial relationship that you create then leads to success, right?
01:54:58.000Whether you're you're aware of that or not, like that that that is the reality, right?
01:55:03.000They they they want to hear your opinion on things, they want to they they value you as a you can't.
01:55:09.000I'm not saying like you won't wanted that parasocial relationship from a new participant point of view.
01:55:13.000I am I am no Charlie Kirk, I am no Donald Trump, I am no JD Vance, I don't want to be in charge, I don't want to be a leader, I don't want to run for office.
01:55:21.000I don't want to have an organization backing me with tons of people.
01:55:25.000I just have ideas and I wanted to talk about what I see.
01:55:30.000And largely I wanted to complain about how the media lies to everybody all the time and correct that.
01:55:38.000And it is getting increasingly dangerous, and I think that may be a principal component why I probably get more death threats than most other people.
01:55:45.000Is that I pull up the sources on every story, we break it down and then explain why this is fake from the mainstream media, with no disrespect to the conservative side, they're largely just proselytizing conservative values, which is very effective and good for their side, and I'm not saying that disrespectfully, but as a threat to the left, it is much less threatening when a man in a suit says, you know, Christ is king, here's why.
01:56:07.000And they say that's not gonna sway any of our people.
01:56:10.000But when I, a an urban liberal from Chicago, say, here's the Wall Street Journal in the Hollywood reporter proving the FCC did not play a role, a principal role, in taking down Jimmy Kimmel and the narrative from the left is fake, they go, he's gonna shit up.
01:57:02.000Well, I mean I used to work in the security industry.
01:57:04.000You're your former military and intelligence and you've got a team of like I used to I I used to work with a company which did C CPO tests, but there would have been a risk assessment if that's the risk.
01:57:13.000And the risk assessment was that you can't go in, then fair enough.
01:57:46.000Which we which is is abhorrent, right?
01:57:48.000That's the reality that we live in in America and in in the West in general now.
01:57:52.000And that's uh it's a very sad thing, but it shouldn't deter you.
01:57:55.000And do you have thirty thousand dollars for me to hire security so I can do shit like that?
01:57:59.000No, but I feel like if you if you have the resources to do it and you feel like it matters.
01:58:04.000Well, that's kind of I mean this is a personal judgment call, I guess, at that point.
01:58:07.000It's not uh when we did uh when we went to Des Moines, we were there with uh Vivek and I think Candace, that cost fifty, sixty thousand dollars in security.
01:58:36.000I mean, I'm not trying to downplay the threat to your life, but I'm saying that if you kind of let them confine you to your spot, I feel maybe it's just kind of my defiance, and I I I don't have a family in the way that you do.
01:59:05.000But uh but uh but at the same time, they don't want you to continue to be out mingling with people where you could could get get further organized.
01:59:11.000There could be other relationships you could I think they want me to, because that's where they can kill me.
01:59:19.000He gets the most off of online through YouTube and rumble discs like that's his furthest reach is I don't think I get the most fence of every obviously Trump isn't it?
01:59:26.000No, no, I'm just saying yeah, more than not.
01:59:28.000On the corner of a street and Charlestown on a soapbox, you get more influence here than you do.
01:59:33.000There's a reason why I mostly just hang out at casinos and people are always like, you know, I know not everybody, but people are like, Oh, Tim's talking about going to the casino.
01:59:48.000They when when you typically when you're uh when you're a uh high profile individual, you walk into any casino, security immediately flags you and they got cameras everywhere.
01:59:57.000So when I go to a casino, I can walk around without security and have to worry about it.
02:00:02.000But when I go out in the street, you you you you you just don't know.
02:00:07.000Well, I mean, the the the incidents that people knew about, we had that year where we were swatted 15 notable times.
02:00:12.000That wasn't the total amount that we actually had to deal with it.
02:00:15.000People think that means cops are kicking our door every time.
02:00:17.000It doesn't, it meant that the cop were doing sweeps basically all the time.
02:00:19.000One credible threat resulted in us evacuating the studio for three hours, and everyone remembered it was chaircast and it was 40,000 people watching an empty room.
02:00:26.000And then at one point you see the little dog walk in and they did the bomb sweep.
02:00:30.000And uh there are locations that we've tried to obfuscate through your your typical legal means, which I won't get into detail on, but owning property through obfuscation to prevent security, and they they found us.
02:00:42.000And we got swatted there, and armed men with rifles came, surrounded the building, and this is like it's an incessant constant thing.
02:00:50.000We've had I think three instances of of uh the bomb squad deploying robots because the the tactics they use.
02:00:57.000Uh there are means by which I shouldn't get into the full details.
02:01:02.000Let me just put it simply that there are ways that these people use that force evacuations and bomb squads, legitimate credible threats.
02:01:11.000And uh we have we had people who are leaking information to anti-foot and far leftists, infiltrators, really really crazy, crazy shit.
02:01:23.000We just pay more and more money to deal with it.
02:01:25.000Well, I think like going back to what we're saying before is that you know, they want you to stop.
02:01:29.000I think it is kind of making your quality of life so bad that you have to leave the house with your masses about armed security and do all these like risk assessments before going anywhere.
02:01:37.000And then at some point you might go, well, I kind of just want a normal life with my wife and kids.
02:01:41.000You know, like that that that is what it is.
02:01:43.000So it's also like it's it's incredibly difficult.
02:02:01.000And uh I'd much rather rather live in a van down by the river.
02:02:04.000Now I got a wife and a child, and we're, you know, there's gonna be some more coming soon.
02:02:08.000And so uh bungalow, middle of nowhere, uh, some chickens.
02:02:13.000I could do online work and easily uh if if I was doing if I was doing standard marketing stuff, I'd probably make half a million a year working four hours a day.
02:02:24.000Um, with my understanding of internet structures and all that stuff, I could easily do consulting work and probably make way more doing something else than this.
02:02:32.000And so the challenge is always, and as it has been, the intense security risk that we face is a tremendous stress.
02:02:40.000And it's not just me, but largely my wife, yeah, of course.
02:02:43.000And and trying to deal with a new baby.
02:02:45.000And so one of the reasons why I'm gonna be 40 and just had my first kid is exactly all the problems that I've discussed.
02:02:51.000And then the the challenging thing in all of this, and let me just be a whiny little bitch because I don't care what people think.
02:02:56.000That's why I unlike many other people, often just literally say exactly what I'm thinking, much to my own detriment.
02:03:02.000But people will make comments, and it doesn't mean all that much to me when people rag on me on the internet.
02:03:10.000But to point out, the people who who have been constantly chatting things like stop being a little baby, Tim, start having a family, what's wrong with you, all of those kinds of comments, supposedly coming from people who are supposed to be on my side when the when the reason we're strained and struggling to do it is because people are trying to murder me.
02:03:27.000And it's maybe we quit, shut it all down.
02:03:29.000That way we can have a family and live a normal life.
02:03:32.000Or we have to try and figure out how we balance making enough money to cover the cost of security so that we can live somewhere where we're not gonna be murdered, and then it is incredibly difficult to do that.
02:03:41.000And so I I I I've said it before, you know, my wife's attitude is probably just when are you going to quit so we can stop having to worry about dying all the time.
02:03:55.000I I it's it's like you layer on that there's a tremendous respect for all the people who join the Discord server who are members, who do watch every single day, who buy the products we promote, who are very much into it, and I look at that, and it's not a human thing.
02:04:10.000You know, when when I see coffee sales, I go, wow, did you guys know we did two million in Casper sales last year?
02:04:32.000So largely what we have in terms of encouragement is knowing that when people believe in us, they watch our shows, they buy our products, they're saying keep doing what you're doing, don't give up.
02:04:42.000And that tremendously outweighs the negativity.
02:04:45.000But the negativity is there the stop being a pussy bitch, Tim.
02:05:41.000There are a few people on the right who have been going real ham at it lately, especially the tri Charlie Kirk conspiracies, the views they're getting are massive.
02:05:47.000But you know, long story short, I get emotional when people are like, you know, you should experience the death threats and the risk to your family, which is one thousand times greater than the average person, even in law enforcement.
02:05:58.000And I'm like, I respect what law enforcement does tremendously.
02:06:01.000I understand the threats against them, but I just wish more people were willing to be alike, I will not be be threatened in that way.
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02:06:27.000Uh yeah, if we can just shout out uh Twitter with Flag Force UK, that's our organization.
02:06:31.000We've been putting up flags across the country.
02:09:23.000The real issue here is that before most people even knew that Charlie Kirk was dead.
02:09:28.000You have Netanyahu giving multiple interviews talking about how, oh, using the fing moment for his own political purposes, like the f that isn't let me finish my point.
02:09:45.000Because none of us can finish the damn point without someone else jumping down your throat.
02:09:50.000I don't think that Israel killed him because there's no evidence of that.
02:09:52.000But I had a problem with Netanyahu exploiting an assassination in this country for his own political means and purposes and lying about the nature of his relationship with Charlie Kirk.
02:10:04.000Because Charlie Kirk didn't like Netanyahu.
02:10:06.000Just like any warm-blooded American shouldn't.
02:10:39.000That kind of is how like every normal person feels about like people that are that have strong opinions about Israel.
02:10:45.000But it's like there exist I'm I'm with Jillian actually.
02:10:48.000Like if every single conversation you just bring up Israel, I'm gonna be like, you know, you know, to be fair, I wouldn't quit on the spot.
02:10:55.000I'd be like, uh, you're doing Israel again.
02:10:57.000Okay, uh, let me know when you guys rap, I'm gonna grab a coffee.
02:11:52.000And I don't know if there's me thinking about it.
02:11:54.000Well, I'm assuming that's the one where he's what it might look bad on the Saudis, it might look bad on the Qataris or something like that.
02:12:08.000I look up I I look at the Epstein thing and go, yeah, well, he clearly has Maside connections.
02:12:11.000My brain wouldn't jump to the fake clip.
02:12:14.000It's a fake clip because we played a clip.
02:12:16.000Dan Bonjino was on the show, and and he said that um uh Epstein was some kind of Middle Eastern intelligence, and then we all started bustling out laughing, and I was like, oh, Middle Eastern, huh?
02:12:26.000Oh, you it was like uh Yeah, there's a fake there's a fake clip that's shared by the the anti-Jew crowd.
02:12:33.000Yeah, where we're talking about the US liberty, and I said something to Ian, like whether it's a false flag doesn't matter because the instance itself will be utilized by its supporters and denounced by its detractors.
02:12:45.000So and then they they cut it and edit it in a way to where there's like a pause, and we're like you're like you can't talk about it.
02:12:52.000You can't talk about that, and they paused it for like a minute.
02:13:00.000And then he was like, something about a false flag, and I was like, right, the problem with false flags is supporters will always believe it, and detractors will always deny it.
02:13:07.000So the issue is it doesn't matter if it's actually a false flag because proving it won't change the minds of those that want to use it.
02:13:14.000Like I said before, it's a topical show is something from like 50 years ago really gonna begin to change the American mind, or either gonna be relevant in today's politics or something.
02:13:21.000Oh, it's people are constantly spamming the chat with USS Liberty.
02:13:25.000Yeah, well, I mean I mean it I mean though those It gets a reaction, like that it's wrong and it it it is an important thing that did happen, but I mean like there's enough people who've discussed a hard time.
02:14:05.000Uh and you know, they they inject me into their conflict when I asked Netanyahu if it had any evidence that was the case, and he sh and he brushed it off.
02:14:13.000And then I was like, okay, and then some pro-Israel outlet wrote Tim Poole claimed Cutter is funding this, and uh and I was like, no the fuck I didn't.
02:14:56.000And if it's anti-Israel, they're going to watch.
02:14:59.000So there have been some personalities who I won't name that everybody keeps talking about how they've generated a large Middle Eastern audience and so they're they're careful about what they say that might be bad because you make a lot of money.
02:15:12.000And then you take a look at the metrics, and there are certain personalities that defy metrics, and you're like, that's interesting.
02:15:20.000The times they post, the views they get.
02:15:24.000Yeah, it's probably because their audience is largely outside of the United States.
02:15:26.000I think that's true of a lot of the comments on X, and that's why we've all like the America first people have been saying Elon should create a country filter so that we're only getting opinions from people in the United States, and then we'll know how many people actually care about Israel.
02:15:39.000But I think the easiest piece of evidence as to how it's not America is that it's pretty fucking weird when like the news is Charlie Kirk's assassination, and then you get spam blasted chats about Israel.
02:15:50.000I mean you're not going to be able to do that.
02:15:51.000And we're like, guys, no one in this country is talking about Israel right now.
02:15:54.000I mean you've got like the the Nick Fuentes crowd as well.
02:15:56.000I mean, like he can generate hundreds of thousands of people who are like who will who are Americans largely who will also push that.
02:16:02.000So I think I I mean I'm sure the numbers are like inflated between like the Pakistan thing, but like you think Fuentes' audience is all Americans?
02:16:10.000Uh but I mean like even someone like Alex Jones, who's taken a very like anti-Israel stance, took a to a degree as well, Candace Owens, like they they have definitely changed the American right towards actually being like, hang on, Israel is a problem, why are we cow talent to them?
02:16:31.000Like, where do you think opinions come from, right?
02:16:33.000It's it's it's the cultural systems and the media that we consume.
02:16:36.000And TikTok, we have the data from October 7th into the end of October that it appeared there was an algorithmic switch which began to promote anti-Israel sentiment.
02:16:46.000Uh following October 7th on TikTok, it was like 80% pro-Israel, 20% anti-Israel.
02:17:11.000That that that was the general presumption.
02:17:14.000Otherwise, you like I track all the all the algorithmic stuff on all the platforms.
02:17:19.000We go over the reason why people say unalive is because we can see the direct results in everything we do and how it's impacted.
02:17:25.000On YouTube, you can tell when they change the algorithm is overnight.
02:17:30.000Because any minor change dramatically affects everything about your channel.
02:17:34.000They don't it it it it's never really slow.
02:17:36.000And so the presumption is, and I don't think it's guaranteed fact, but the presumption is based on the switch, it looks like TikTok intervened and said invert it.
02:17:45.000This triggered uh Democrats to join Republicans.
02:17:48.000Republicans initially were like, ban TikTok because it's censoring conservatives.
02:17:57.000TikTok inverted the algorithm, Democrats immediately flip the fuck out, and then you got a bipartisan ban of TikTok, all because they were trying to defend Israel.
02:18:05.000And so what ends up happening with TikTok is Trump ends up saying, no, let it let it stay because there's this uh uh the presumption is there's this Republican billionaire who's an investor in it, and it's like don't don't ban it, let's just change it.
02:18:16.000And so you have young people who have been in this platform that Democrats and Republicans intended to stop because it was anti-Israel, have now been consuming media for two, three years off of this anti-Israel sentiment, and now Gen Z is largely anti-Israel.
02:18:33.000So when I look at Tucker and Candace and I see them like Candace, for instance, is putting out a lot of these videos without directly saying it's Israel, but the general sentiment everyone has is she's implying Israel did it.
02:18:44.000It's because you have Gen Z that is 24% supports Israel.
02:18:48.000So presumably it's like 70 or so that does not.
02:18:51.000And then you have global audience, of which globally Israel's not that popular.
02:19:06.000Like the APAC has huge amounts of sway over the Democrats and the Republicans.
02:19:10.000And I think people are looking at that, going, well, how does this foreign lobby group, which technically isn't considered a foreign lobby, why is it have so much influence?
02:19:17.000And I think that it then gets perpetuated.
02:19:31.000I think I have no problem with them registering as foreign agents.
02:19:34.000I think that they are sub they they do have a substantial amount of influence.
02:19:37.000But I also don't understand why people bring up APAC, but they don't bring up the China lobby, which is I think 40 times bigger.
02:19:46.000That's the problem I have with it is that people go APAC, and I'm like, before we get to APAC, we've got the China lobby, we've got big pharma lobby.
02:19:53.000Yeah, all kinds of lots of well, well, I'm talking about foreign interests.
02:19:56.000And I and I have no problem saying nobody should be dual, no one no one in Congress should be allowed to be a dual citizen anywhere, all that stuff.
02:20:01.000Farah registration, all that good stuff.
02:20:35.000Maybe it was the shooter in the bush, maybe it was the shooter in the window, maybe it's the guy with the palm pistol, maybe it was the old man in front with the secret gun.
02:20:42.000Maybe it was Bridget McCron in the trapdoor.
02:21:16.000And uh, but while we all are while we are all concerned about the left as terrorism and everything else that's going on right now, uh with the just the left in general.
02:21:27.000Uh I just wanted to come in here and say how um and ask, like, why considering everything we we have seen going on across the country, uh in sorry, in across the the across Europe and the UK, uh when will Americans realize that it's time to wake up and get rid of Islam in this country.
02:21:48.000We're gonna still have that issue to deal with, even if we get rid of the left.
02:21:53.000Uh it I don't know that anyone can put a a clock on that.
02:21:58.000And and as long as there's not a critical mass, um, I don't see that happening.
02:22:05.000Yeah, I don't think like Islam's like an existential threat to the US.
02:22:08.000I mean, it could be one day, but um, it's like two less than two percent of the population, it's really concentrated in like four cities.
02:22:27.000But uh yeah, I don't think they're like really anything like I think uh the Republican Party specifically uses it as a carrot on a stick to like scare people.
02:22:34.000And I'm just like it's not really existential in the US unless you live in Dearborn, which it is a problem there.
02:22:39.000Um and you can mop it up pretty quickly.
02:22:42.000Like I don't think I think the left is a much bigger issue.
02:22:45.000Or Texas, it's not that you have huge states real quick, they have huge uh things, big the biggest mock mosque and stuff, and they've been building cities in Texas.
02:22:53.000Yeah, but it might not be an existential threat, bro.
02:22:59.000Well, no, it well, Islam is the existential threats.
02:23:01.000The immigrant third world immigration would be the threat there, because it's equally as big of a problem, they build these big monkey statues, and that's like a Hindu thing or something.
02:23:09.000So it's like Islam, Islam is just like a f of like a factor of the bigger problem, which is like unchecked migration from the third world, like destroying.
02:23:19.000I think the difference between she mentioned the UK there as well.
02:23:22.000The UK has a massive integration problem.
02:23:25.000I know American Muslims, and they're actually very well integrated in comparison to the UK, where they just choose not to.
02:23:31.000There's a the Muslims in the UK certainly do integrate, but there's a there's a massive problem with the fact that they they don't and they sort of take over these areas similar to my what what you might be seeing in in in Dearborn.
02:23:41.000Um you're a much larger country, you're not bringing in mass Islamic migration on the same level as we are.
02:23:46.000You're also not propping up the sort of social services to facilitate it either.
02:24:27.000They they they believe in in that religious law.
02:24:30.000But that will never ever be compatible with the laws of America unless they they change it you'd have to completely repeal the constitution.
02:24:37.000In the UK we don't have a constitution on the same level so we're seeing it take more of a hold because you know if you're if you're thinking as an Islamic community you think right we want to gain political power America wouldn't be the nation that you would do it in because you have the constitution.
02:24:48.000Look at somewhere like the UK where all you've got to do is get a majority in parliament you can pretty much do most things without but by the king intervening which the king definitely isn't going to intervene he seems very sympathetic.
02:25:02.000There is a huge amount of of differing values and you know in Europe where we're seeing that on the political stage and even when they've kind of made this Islamic leftist alliance it's falling apart now in the UK because like other stuff like trans rights and uh you know the the the status of women uh and the these sort of social issues so it's it's very thin end of the wedge but you know as a Brit coming here like the last thing on my mind is oh is is is Islamic immigration like some some threat here to me it's it's it's it's a non fact you've got much bigger fish to throw to fry.
02:25:31.000But I mean but it is worthwhile keeping in the back of your head going okay well if you bring in let's say there's some deal over Gaza where they're saying you know the US is going to bring in I don't know let's say half a million people from Gaza that is going to radically change the US but also change their strain of of Islam too.
02:25:44.000You know when these people get into the mosque these more radical ideas come and these people who were were integrated can actually end up radicalized which we see we saw in the UK when we had the the the refugees from Syria coming in they were coming into into into Mosum masjards where they were otherwise fairly well integrated and these radicalized ideas began to disseminate so you you you do have to be careful you definitely gotta be aware of it.
02:26:04.000I mean obviously this country that suffered again nine eleven right you've got that's always going to be in in your sort of uh cultural psyche but Israel did that so I don't know oh did it okay right Bush did it who did it yeah does that answer your question I mean I I didn't think people would agree with me too much on that but uh I just want to remind everyone Islam is a problem.
02:26:26.000um and while i yeah i fully disagree i know that we have bigger fish to fry um at the moment but eventually we got to deal with uh the issue of the people we cause do you think that that tate has a point though if you take care of immigration more broadly the issue of islam kind of is taken care of when you take care of immigration or do you think that there's already enough people here that ascribe to the religion where they
02:26:56.000will evade eventually outbreed American you know you know Christians or or or agnostics or what have you no I don't think that illegal immigration or you know getting rid of all people from legal immigration will uh fix the the threat of Islam in America.
02:27:13.000A lot of the people that are in Michigan are likely here – Michigan and Minnesota are likely here legally, and yeah, they will outbreed us.
02:27:26.000Yeah, I was saying immigration broadly, like legal immigration.
02:27:30.000This is why legal immigration is much more of a threat to a large degree than illegal immigration is because legal immigrants stay.
02:27:36.000And so if they come and they're Muslim – because I totally agree with you that it's a threat to the way of life of the United States.
02:27:42.000They can stay and illegally you can get.
02:27:44.000can get out like pretty easily with the whip of a judge's pen.
02:27:47.000But in a illegal immigrant that's a much that's a much more rigid process you're gonna get a little mean.
02:27:53.000So I mean it's something in America where like you've always had a historically very good integration process but people still hold on like you know look at the Italian American community they still hold their cultural values there.
02:28:05.000So I think that you know no matter who's going to come in you can't expect them to ever fully integrate the way that someone who came on the Mayflower is you've got different cultures within the American culture.
02:28:13.000You've got got different subcultures and Islam being a religion you're always going to have that risk of even if they do kind of integrate they they don't sort of fully follow the Sharia it's always going to be there in the in the back of the in the back of the mind and then in the same way that you can have some fairly uh unradical Christian groups who you know over time you'll see them become more fervent and kind of come back to the faith and actually begin living out their their moral values it's always there it's sort of a latent thing.
02:28:36.000Uh just with uh I did enjoy the one time where the free Palestine um rally parade they got and uh they butted heads with the LGG LGBT people and they're all yeah, arguing and yelling at each other.
02:28:49.000Yeah, they can't even integrate into the left, let alone America.
02:28:51.000Yeah, yeah, thank God they didn't uh bump into each other on our rooftop.
02:29:46.000So you uh you want to add anything or you uh want to shout anything out?
02:29:50.000Yeah, I I could add that stuff on there, but I don't want to take the show on my show.
02:29:54.000So uh I just wanted to say uh quickly, Islam is that the issue and you know, Protestants is that uh Protestants are to uh Catholicism what a not what a peaceful Muslim is to Islam.
02:30:14.000And to that, I would just like to say uh follow me on X. I am the dictator X is uh on X and uh otherwise I got nothing else and chunking right now, so I'll talk to you guys later.
02:30:27.000So I just want to uh uh quickly apologize for being on my phone just there.
02:30:31.000Uh not only did I receive a a very important and good text, which I have to it's important work stuff.
02:30:37.000People would be happy if we can figure figure this one out.
02:30:39.000I'd also want to add um we were trying to get this really big show for tomorrow, and we couldn't make it happen.
02:30:48.000And so I'm uh just trying to make sure I have the details because we had requested that Elijah Schaefer, Myron Gaines, and Nick Fuentes come on the show.
02:31:16.000But uh tomorrow morning we're discussing the Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories, and we wanted to have uh Elijah Myron and Nick Fuentes for their views.
02:31:30.000And and and and the reason why I thought it'd be very interesting is because there's the Israel did its side, and then there's Nick Fuentes saying Israel did not do it, which is a very interesting take considering his position on Israel.
02:31:42.000And uh, I guess he didn't want to do it.
02:31:46.000I mean, he has been traveling around a fair bit.
02:31:47.000He was on Russell Brand, and then I think he was over.
02:31:51.000Yeah, he was interpreted the other day.
02:33:29.000Um, believe it or not, um, would definitely be I got nothing, but don't give them phones, you know, monitor the foot, don't let them on the internet.
02:33:36.000At least I mean internet, yes, but phones is tough.
02:33:39.000I mean, I don't know what you're gonna do when but by the time you have babies, uh there might be what what the 15 years down the road.
02:33:46.000So it might be it might be you might be having brain chips by then, so good luck.
02:33:59.000I mean, look, yeah, the like remember the parents are the parents, right?
02:34:04.000So there's gonna be things where the state can step in if you're abusing your child, but like not giving not allowing your child to have a private cell phone that or or phone that connects to the internet that they can do whatever on.
02:34:20.000There is there is nothing that the government's gonna do about that, right?
02:34:26.000You are you will be providing all of the things for that child.
02:34:30.000Like back in the day, I don't know if this is still something that's normal or not, but like if I like my parents were like, don't close the door in your route to your room, and I didn't get to close the door, whether I liked it or not.
02:35:02.000When you're 18 years old, you can move the fuck out, then you can pay for all of your fucking shit, and then you can have privacy.
02:35:09.000But if you're living under my roof and I'm paying for all of your stuff, you can take that privacy shit and shove it up your ass because it ain't happening.
02:35:17.000And so you should know what your kids are doing.
02:35:19.000You should know what they're talking who they're talking to.
02:35:21.000They shouldn't have anything on their phone that's locked up.
02:35:24.000You should know what apps they're using.
02:35:26.000You should know their passwords for all of their social media accounts.
02:35:29.000If they have them, I don't think they should have them until they're at least 16.
02:35:33.000No computer, no phone, no internet, you know.
02:35:35.000I mean, uh I do think that like there might be an argument when they're like 16.
02:35:39.000If they get a job, they can buy their own phone or whatever.
02:35:42.000Then, you know, but like until then, they get to use the computer in they get to if they if they're gonna use a computer, they get to use the computer.
02:35:49.000That's the family computer that's in the den or in the in the living internet at all.
02:36:01.000Your baby's gonna computer, computer in the uh I I would say they can have they can have a computer at a certain age with no internet, and uh, you know, I make sure it's got no internet because I know how to do that.
02:36:14.000Do you not feel like that's like handicapping your child?
02:36:16.000So I mean I'm perhaps one of the few on the panel who completely grew up with the internet from being like young.
02:36:51.000However, the they're not gonna be able to be able to socialize and speak and understand people as well.
02:36:54.000You have to know the opposing argument.
02:36:57.000The second thing is I spent all my time just like reading, watching videos.
02:37:00.000I actually was able to set up my own business just through being able to be online when I was like 14, just started running Facebook ads, right?
02:37:05.000That was something I did off my own phone.
02:37:06.000When did you when did you first get the internet?
02:37:33.000I had internet, but internet back then was very, very different.
02:37:36.000I didn't my parents didn't have to worry about snuff films and midget porn.
02:37:39.000Back then it was like you'd go on AOL and you'd click a box and it would give you like nine options for like areas of AUL.
02:37:46.000So I would go to the freeware section and look up the various video games and download them.
02:37:51.000Or maybe I'd go to like audiofile.com where they'd be like the MP3s that are available today, and there would be like six MP3s, and it's like I never heard of those fucking songs.
02:38:25.000I remember playing that fucking mind game from Apogee where you're a little guy in outer space trying to collect all the dumb little minds and Commander Keen.
02:38:32.000Nowadays the internet is pedophiles trying to get your kids on Roblox to say weird ass creepy shit to them.
02:38:39.000And the the problem I would argue with the internet is it's basically right now, like telling your dropping your kid off in downtown and being like, good luck, and then walking away.
02:38:49.000I mean, like you I'm not saying you shouldn't monitor your kids' internet access, right?
02:38:52.000You you you certainly should, and there's various different apps and different softwares which will have like hard blocks that you can.
02:38:57.000Even Wikipedia is a bunch of weird gay commie books.
02:38:59.000Well, I mean, like I thought I was gonna bring the I used to do so we had a school computer, like there was like an after school company your parents work till six and they pick you up after.
02:39:06.000All they had on that school computer was like games, and the only other uncensored thing was Wikipedia.
02:39:10.000So like the Wikipedia was far more interesting to me than the games.
02:39:26.000I do want to like back up his point with something that like a lot of people miss like the reason why Zoomers are so right wing is because of internet access.
02:39:32.000It's because we grew up on the internet, and the proof for this is why millennials are like.
02:39:36.000Zoomers are not right when Zoomer guys are.
02:39:38.000Yeah, but we're the ones that are gonna be actually impossible.
02:39:41.000Maybe it's like 36% of Zoomers are right wing.
02:39:45.000Among men, it's it's it's much higher.
02:39:47.000Like in the United States, but but so the reason for tricky.
02:39:49.000The reason why it's like 36% is because uh more than half of men are are right, more than half of Gen Z men are right wing, and almost all of the women are left wing.
02:39:58.000Yeah, but I think the internet is the reason why they're left wing.
02:40:01.000And if they were the women that weren't online, they won't be fucking retarded.
02:40:04.000Well, women, well, that's just how women are.
02:40:15.000The moment like I've had it myself in relationships where like a a woman, she doesn't agree with your politics, but she likes you, she knows she has a good good thing going with you.
02:40:22.000Her politics would just move towards whatever yours is.
02:40:24.000Of course, it's it's is to whatever is in her best interest, right?
02:40:26.000That's generally how most people women, women operate politically based on their social circle.
02:40:31.000Yeah, so when women go online, they see what other women do and they adhere to that political worldview.
02:40:44.000What's happening is these girls are taking like the girls are taking the internet culture and bringing it to the real life, and then girls are getting bullied and it's causing a bunch of problems, and 14-year-olds are getting breast implants.
02:40:54.000Dude, if you guys only lived without the internet in your life one time, you would understand where we're coming from.
02:40:59.000Yeah, but yeah, I'm not gonna listen to a dude who sings the hot dog song, bro.
02:41:01.000But the thing the thing is, like, but uh the thing is I'm looking at older, older generations and they like fumbled.
02:41:08.000So it's like I'm sitting here as a zoomer and I'm like, okay, well, we're moving in the right direction.
02:41:12.000I'm looking at like the so-called, like we grew up like what arts and everything, but it's like you're not base.
02:41:45.000I'm like, and he's like coming out like the most base shit.
02:41:47.000Like stuff that's actually like very well articulated too.
02:41:50.000I'm like, wow, like because it does allow people access to the knowledge which would be which people previously be gatekeeped behind institutions or you know, old enough yet.
02:43:26.000Naruto was always really great because Nairo Toe was a loser, outcast, orphan, and he became president basically, and he got stronger and stronger.
02:43:40.000Yeah, aliens came, and then they went to another dimension, and who knows what the fuck's going on.
02:43:43.000Well, I mean, like I think what's interesting about those cartoons where they're all they're unremarkable, they're kind of failures, but they still kind of end up in these remarkable situations, and like Ed and Eddie?
02:43:51.000Yeah, and like a lot of these should like regular show and otherwise kind of like oh god, fuck like you're I like it.
02:44:46.000It is it it is like segmented in Japan.
02:44:48.000Like you have these areas that are complete degenerate degenerate cesspits, and then you've got these other kind of like pseudo-utopian reality in this other area is like they do kind of corn it off, which is better than here where like you'll have like some sort of country club, then down the road you'll have some like weird sort of anime show up, like witchcraft stop, like things are just kind of like it's it's everywhere.
02:45:06.000Um I've seen uh uh uh interviews on the street for women asking them if it's okay if they're men cheat with them if it's with like a prostitute, and they're like, yeah, it's fine.
02:45:15.000We definitely gotta get the rest of the cars, but I just want to add one thing, and I think um American cartoons is like giving your child acid.
02:45:25.000And anime is it's almost like giving them acid, but let me clarify.
02:45:31.000I don't mean all Cartoon Network was really bad, Justice League was really good, Static Shock was really good.
02:45:36.000I like those shows, Batman Beyond was a little weird because it was in the future, but still good.
02:45:41.000Uh the Batman Animated Series, really, really good.
02:45:44.000These were cartoons that had weird superhero shit and weird stuff, but the characters were adults talking to adults, ex and and talking about perseverance, honor, justice, integrity, Spider-Man was really good.
02:45:57.000And I look at some anime, and they have a lot of those things like uh Nairo To I thought was good in terms of that messaging, and what messages do I want my kid to pick up?
02:46:23.000And the same thing is true for Animaniacs and all of these fucking shows.
02:46:26.000But uh, Olivia, did you want to add anything or shout anything out?
02:46:30.000Um I will take this opportunity to shout out um my husband's show, Pop Culture Crisis.
02:46:35.000You guys can find them um Monday through Friday.
02:46:38.000You guys know that Joe Mary's not there tonight, so I figured I'd take the uh opportunity and you can follow me at Olivia Jasovic on all platforms.
02:47:21.000I think the indictment of Comey shows us it's happening.
02:47:24.000The the dam will break, and Bannon was saying end of summer you'll see arrests.
02:47:28.000So it's just a little bit after summer and Comey indictment happened.
02:47:32.000I think Trump's gonna put his foot on the gas.
02:47:35.000And uh I think the reason why it's taken as long as it is, as I've explained the past couple of days is he's trying to massage the culture, not drop a tsunami on the culture.
02:47:44.000If he comes out and says arrest soros now, they're gonna be like, dude, this is crazy.
02:47:48.000You get a few arrests under the belt, you get a few indictments, you get if you get more evidence, get it in the news.
02:47:53.000He says it now, let it percolate in the news for a few months, let the cultural commentators bubble up the stories, create this wave, this zeitgeist, then when you make the arrest, everybody expects it.
02:48:05.000Oh, do you think that um with him um talking about it so much the left it doesn't really matter what um he says and how much he brings it out slowly but surely the left, the democrats are still no matter what, even if it doesn't matter.
02:48:18.000The point is regular people can't be shocked.
02:48:54.000He's no, I'm talking about this for Soros.
02:48:57.000So so someone like Soros who's got uh no, but you said nothing ever happens, but like literally so much shit has happened in the past month, it's crazy.
02:49:04.000I don't think I yeah, but I don't think it's seismic in the sense that it's gonna fundamentally change American politics.
02:49:09.000Like I like I was I was mentioning before.
02:49:31.000Well, I mean, not possible initially, but like I'm getting he's gonna ramp up to it like that that's the thing, but it's like just kind of wait it's gonna happen, wait it's gonna happen.
02:49:48.000Trump can't just be like, here's 15 indictments of prominent Democrats right away.
02:49:52.000Not only not only can you not actually legally do it, because there's no mechanism for it, but everybody would say no to Trump if he tried that.
02:50:00.000Even if Trump literally had the indictments, they'd be like, Are you nuts?
02:50:08.000And he's he's already talking about going after Soros and Hoffman.
02:50:11.000And designating anti-faterrorist organizations and then three days later saying we will now dismantle the entirety of the leftist.
02:50:17.000Yeah, but I mean, I feel like like, you know, last week when the the Wals this big momentum and it was like the nation will still in Shock over the assassination.
02:50:23.000You could have come out with it straight away and it would have had a much kind of stronger cultural impact and it would have been like, well, we've just taken this man's life and we've celebrated it, cause and effect, right?
02:50:40.000I can't take the nothing other ever happens argument because literally this this past month has been like this country is forever changed.
02:50:48.000I don't think it is it's forever changed from the top down though.
02:50:50.000I don't think Trump has has fundamentally changed any of the nation to prevent these sort of people who are not going to be able to do that.
02:50:54.000They're talking about making a Charlie Kirk silver dollar.
02:51:22.000So like when you when you when you when when it's not just internet brain, but I I make this point quite a bit.
02:51:28.000When you read history books, history is condensed.
02:51:30.000And this has caused a kind of and and for lack of a better word, I don't mean this derisively, a delusion where people look at what is happening around them and think nothing ever happens because you read a history book and it's like Hitler rounded up the Jews, then he invaded Poland, then he invaded the, you know.
02:52:20.000But the investors are now suing Jimmy Kimmel, so that the Charlie Kirk is in every article.
02:52:25.000I mean, I feel like the outreach energy really kind of came to a like that could have been harnessed a lot better.
02:52:30.000Like the he could have used that push for hard hard policy making and be like, yeah, well, this is why, while while it was still in the public psyche.
02:52:36.000I I get the it's not in as strong of a position as it was last week.
02:52:39.000People it was much more on the minds of people last week.
02:52:43.000I don't get why you didn't do it like immediately.
02:52:45.000Just like look, I visited what was that.
02:52:47.000I think that's like an opinion with no distinction.
02:52:49.000It's like uh he could have done it, perhaps, maybe, I don't know.
02:52:52.000We don't know what would have happened.
02:52:53.000I think that in terms of it are things happening.
02:52:57.000Well, aside from the fact that Charlie Kirk's assassination is one of the most shocking things this country has seen in in 70 years, things happen.
02:53:04.000And uh then the uh then Jimmy Kimmel getting pulled off the air in a terror attack on an ABC station.
02:53:09.000The amount of happenings that have happened that have are fundamentally rearranging politics in this country have been terrifyingly fast is pat in these in this past these past two weeks.
02:53:20.000Or is it just gonna be okay, I need to be seen to be doing something, and then you know, six months down the line, there's no James Comey was just indicted.
02:53:27.000There's another I'm saying that there's another foreign conflict, other things going on in the world, then suddenly the there's nothing.
02:53:35.000It's not an argument for nothing ever happens, it's an argument of we don't know what happens next.
02:53:38.000Yeah, but I'm saying like I do I do do I think in his head he's gonna go like I'm gonna go for Soros, I'm gonna make sure he's indicted, I'm gonna put 100% into this.
02:53:45.000No, I think it's more of like lip service.
02:53:47.000I don't think he's I don't think he's fully sold on the idea.
02:53:51.000Donald Trump just declared Antifa a terrorist organization and then indicted James Comey in the span of a couple of days, and you're like, Yeah, but he'll stop here.
02:53:58.000Well, uh that there's no evidence to suggest that.
02:54:06.000So if in three days so it's Antifa is a terrorist organization, then I am filing an executive order to have all governments dismantle the mechanisms of the left, and we're gonna indict James Comey, and next we're coming after Reed Hoffman and George Soros, and you're and you're going, he's not going fast enough.
02:54:24.000I'm like, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
02:54:28.000The mechanisms of law for these indictments, we don't have enough courtrooms and grand juries and attorneys to go as quick as he's actually going.
02:54:34.000When he instructs all government to go after all of these these agents, uh all of these uh uh nonprofit agencies, whatever, and at the same time trying to deport all of these people, sending the military out, he's stretched way too thin on this one.
02:54:47.000And and the idea that nothing's happening is crazy.
02:54:50.000Like this nothing ever happens argument, it's like, wow, I never would have thought that there'd be three terror attacks in three weeks, followed by three massive governmental reactions.
02:55:01.000We're uh the Jimmy like these past two weeks have felt like a year.
02:55:05.000Jimmy Kimmel getting taken off the air, brought back the the the FCC argument.
02:55:10.000It is insane the amount of things that have happened in such a condensed amount of time.
02:55:13.000Do you think it's just pressure valve, though?
02:55:18.000You look at the American federal government, you think like infinite resources, they can get whatever they want to do, could get done possible.
02:55:23.000Reality on the ground, I'm not well versed enough.
02:55:25.000I mean you may be completely correct about the court thing.
02:55:28.000But like I feel like to some degree it is gonna be a pressure valve because what what benefit is it to Trump as an individual to get involved in all these indictments long term when his his term ends in in in a few years, he he wants to solve the immigration thing, he wants to leave his legacy.
02:55:42.000I don't think he's gonna cross the Rubicon on that level.
02:56:30.000Well, yes, he's not going hard enough.
02:56:31.000He says, No, no, no, but I'm but I'm I'm saying like the the argument right now is that Trump is literally doing it, and you're like, yes, but he'll stop.
02:58:03.000I mean, I think I think also I'm just kind of thinking, I'm very emotionally charged on this in the sense that like it was going this way anyway.
02:58:11.000A lot of people saw this sort of stuff happening.
02:58:12.000Like preemptively, they were using this dehumanizing language, nothing was done, people are still deplatformed.
02:58:18.000It's like that should have been undone prior to that.
02:58:21.000Like we saw the way that this was gonna manifest, and now it's like just crack down on it.
02:58:26.000And I feel like a lot of Americans, a lot of conservatives around the world, a lot of people on the right are like, can you just like because they would crack that the left would come down on this like a ton of bricks in a way that wouldn't be okay, we're indicting some people.
02:58:38.000They would just go hard line, we're gonna ban these right-wing terror groups, and they they'd have a plan that'd be put into action the same day.
02:58:44.000This, okay, he's done the executive order, but as we were discussing earlier in the show, what can actually be done about it?
02:58:49.000So to me, that's that's lip service because there isn't an actual plan to really go, okay, we need to dismantle these people, dismantle their funding.
02:58:56.000You say, okay, there's gonna be indictments, but it's not gonna be fast enough for for these people.
02:58:59.000We see that the ice facility was attacked.