Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump DOJ Indicts James Comey, The ARRESTS Have BEGUN | Timcast IRL

00:02:45.000 The Trump DOJ has indicted James Comey for obstruction and lying to Congress.

00:02:52.000 Oh boy.

00:02:53.000 Here we go.

00:02:55.000 Now apparently there was some other attorney who wasn't going to do it for some reason said either the case wasn't strong enough, didn't want to, so Trump said, get him out of there, get somebody else, and now it is getting done.

00:03:04.000 They had only five days left until the statute of limitations was up.

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00:07:47.000 Hello, everybody.

00:07:48.000 My name is Phil LeBonte.

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00:07:57.000 Former FBI director James Comey indicted days after Trump demanded his DOJ move now to prosecute enemies.

00:08:05.000 Prosecutors earlier said they couldn't establish probable cause to charge Comey, which is a lie.

00:08:10.000 Because we've got this post from Greg Price, which is uh hilarious.

00:08:14.000 On the left, James Comey telling Congress in September of 2020 that the steel dossier wasn't used in the 2016 intelligence committee assessment on the Russian oaks.

00:08:22.000 Right.

00:08:22.000 Tulsi Gabbard's release from July showing the steel dossier was directly cited, and that Obama Intel officials overruled senior Intel officials, if officials who told them it was garbage.

00:08:35.000 Now, I believe he's being indicted on obstruction as well.

00:08:38.000 Former FBI director James Comey has been indicted on two of three counts sought by prosecutors.

00:08:42.000 One count of making false statements and one count of obstruction of justice just days after President Donald Trump issued a public demand for his DOJ to act now to bring prosecutions against Comey and other political foes.

00:08:54.000 The charges followed Trump's ousting of U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Eric Siebert, who, according to source that Expressed doubts internally about bringing cases against Comey as well as New York attorney General Letitia James after Trump appointed him to lead the office.

00:09:07.000 I would just like to point out where we are in this country.

00:09:09.000 They went after Donald Trump on fake charges.

00:09:12.000 Trump says, okay, if that's the standard, we go after them as well.

00:09:16.000 It's remarkable to me that under the Biden administration and in New York, they said, well, these are highly dubious, but let's bring them anyway.

00:09:24.000 And then under Trump, the attorneys are like, well, we can't really do it enough.

00:09:28.000 The standard was set by the Democrats.

00:09:30.000 Trump is saying, hey, look, you want to come after me citing mortgage fraud or civil fraud for loans because an officer made a mistake on some numbers.

00:09:40.000 He's gonna go after Letitia James when she claimed a property outside of New York was her primary residence, which gave her favorable loan terms.

00:09:48.000 I think the same thing is true for Adam Schiff, but we'll see what happens there.

00:09:51.000 And now you have James Comey.

00:09:52.000 James Comey said they didn't use the steel dossier.

00:09:54.000 Tulsi Gabbard says we went through that.

00:09:56.000 Here we go.

00:09:57.000 Here's an IC report showing they did.

00:09:59.000 What's the problem?

00:10:00.000 What's the problem?

00:10:01.000 Let me say this though.

00:10:03.000 I will say this of myself and uh pretty much anybody who's prominent in this space.

00:10:10.000 Y'all better pray Trump doesn't lose this fight.

00:10:13.000 Because we've already seen what they're willing to do to their media adversaries.

00:10:18.000 We've seen what the left and the Democrats have been willing to do to run of the mill Trump supporters who bounced around on January 6th.

00:10:26.000 I ain't talking about the writers.

00:10:28.000 I'm talking of the people who are milling about after the riot was over, who also got a year plus in jail or solitary.

00:10:35.000 Going after James Comey, this is not a shot across the bow.

00:10:39.000 The Democrats already ignited the flames, and Trump is simply responding.

00:10:43.000 So it is now on.

00:10:45.000 At the highest level of politics, Trump has told the deep state, you are going down.

00:10:51.000 At the street level, we are dealing with three terror attacks in three weeks.

00:10:55.000 So you guys tell me what's happening in this country.

00:10:57.000 I mean, look, uh, as far as the situation with Comey, it's good that they're indicting him.

00:11:03.000 It's good that a grand jury decided that they had enough evidence to prosecute.

00:11:07.000 It's good that they are that they've actually moved on this, didn't let the statute of limitations run out.

00:11:14.000 Um but I I see this online like people tweeting at like Cash Patel and people tweeting at uh Republican lawmakers saying, hey, make the leftists stop killing us.

00:11:27.000 Like that's where we're at.

00:11:28.000 Right.

00:11:28.000 So it's great that they put Comey in, or that they're gonna that they're gonna in or that Comey's indicted and they're gonna prosecute.

00:11:34.000 That's all well and good.

00:11:36.000 But we've actually gone past the need for that.

00:11:38.000 I I I I I I gotta I gotta I gotta interject.

00:11:41.000 If we do not see justice on the highest level of these people, the street level stuff is immaterial.

00:11:50.000 This is the this is the most important thing.

00:11:53.000 I look, obviously, street level law enforcement needs to stop needs to stop far-left hair and anti-fun, all that.

00:11:58.000 Because another thing, we got a lot of news.

00:11:59.000 Trump is has ordered his DOJ to go after all of these leftists and all the structures.

00:12:03.000 Ground level's important, but if Comey, Clinton, and their ilk are able to gain power again, I have zero concern whatsoever for anti-foot.

00:12:13.000 Phil, you'll be in a gulag.

00:12:14.000 Just make sure uh you share with me your sandwich at lunchtime.

00:12:16.000 It doesn't matter.

00:12:17.000 The thing is, it doesn't matter if they put Comey away, because this is it doesn't matter if it's Comey or who the individuals are, because there are other people that will be pursuing those those those places in the administration.

00:12:32.000 There's gonna be a Democrat that's gonna be running.

00:12:34.000 There's gonna be people in the bureaucracy that will want to, or there will be people in on the Democrat side that will will fill the roles.

00:12:41.000 And they're gonna act the same.

00:12:43.000 You don't need to wipe out the entire every single soldier on the enemy's battlefield if you if you've if you shatter their center and the rest of them flee.

00:12:52.000 If Trump can get these if if simply these indictments and these charges against Comey, Leticia James, potentially Schiff, anybody else, if that breaks their ranks, those people you're describing are going to run for the Hills.

00:13:04.000 They'll find them so oh well, what's that?

00:13:06.000 Uh they're they've are they're already getting citizenship in foreign countries.

00:13:09.000 Italy, I hear.

00:13:11.000 I mean, well, look, it it would be great if they if they fled the country, obviously.

00:13:15.000 Um, but I do think that that on the the I think the ground level is the thing that's that's more immediate.

00:13:24.000 Like the the idea.

00:13:26.000 Well, you be but you you you you can do both.

00:13:28.000 I don't know why not.

00:13:29.000 No, I'm not again, I'm not saying like I said, it's good that they got him.

00:13:32.000 It's good or that that they're that they've indicted him.

00:13:34.000 And I want to see more.

00:13:35.000 I'm not saying that it's not, you know, it shouldn't happen or whatever.

00:13:37.000 I'm saying it's a good thing.

00:13:38.000 You You arrest these people and the ground stuff disappears.

00:13:41.000 I don't know that I agree with that.

00:13:43.000 I think so.

00:13:43.000 They have the that they'll lose all their funding and all their legal support.

00:13:46.000 Right now, with the infrastructures of power in place, these people might actually get off on the charges.

00:13:51.000 Well, I mean, the dude that you know initially that just most recently shot up the ice facility, he took care of it himself.

00:13:57.000 And that's something that that actually happens fairly regularly.

00:13:59.000 Like they'll they'll go and it'll be suicide by cop or they'll they'll commit suicide themselves.

00:14:04.000 Um you look at all the trans shooters that have gone to schools and stuff, there's not all of them, obviously, but a lot of them get taken care of on you know when they're carrying out the attack.

00:14:14.000 I I think if again, this isn't Jimmy that it's if Jimmy Kimmel's off the air, if the Democrats that waged lawfare against Trump are in prison, and what remains are the squishy middle of middle of the road soft democrats who are like, I'm not gonna support any of that stuff.

00:14:31.000 You will stop this cultural movement on the ground level.

00:14:34.000 Their infrastructure that pays them to that gives them resources to be on the ground, that bails them out of jail, will evaporate overnight.

00:14:42.000 It's it's the the way I look at it is you've got an infestation, and all you're doing is chasing chasing the bugs that you can see instead of going into the walls and finding the hive.

00:14:51.000 So, of course, if we had a wasps nest in the building and they were flying around, we'd be we'd be swatting the wasps to get rid of them when we see them.

00:14:59.000 But we'd also call an exterminator to go in the walls, figure out the nest is and get the nest torn out.

00:15:03.000 This is this is substantially more important in my opinion.

00:15:07.000 Getting rid of the individual uh actors will stop the individual actor at the time, but how do you stop them from reproducing and it's moves like this?

00:15:16.000 I totally well, I mean, this is the probably the biggest test, one of the biggest tests of the DOJ so far, because I mean this was a buzzer beater, right?

00:15:23.000 Like the statute of limitations, September 30th, that's when Comey last testified, September 30th, 2020.

00:15:29.000 And it's like to prove that he didn't have any knowledge of the statements, approved like perjury in this case, it's a really high bar.

00:15:35.000 That's why uh that's why this is a buzzer beater in this case, is because they needed to build this case to the best of their abilities.

00:15:42.000 And so that's just like that because these things matter.

00:15:44.000 These things are like Tim is saying, you're you're cutting the head of the snake.

00:15:47.000 That's like I think the issue is that if Trump got in on day one and said, go arrest Comey, he'd be like, I ain't doing it.

00:15:54.000 And that's literally what we saw.

00:15:56.000 They're gonna be like, This is crazy.

00:15:57.000 Yeah.

00:15:58.000 You're asking me to go to war with the deep state right now.

00:16:01.000 And, you know, I talked to Seb Gorka a couple months ago and I asked him, has the deep state lost?

00:16:05.000 Have we won?

00:16:06.000 He says, No.

00:16:07.000 The deep state is still very much there, and we are we are battling with them.

00:16:11.000 So right now, with this move against Comey, you know, powerful, prominent uniparty elite establishment international elements are saying Trump wants war, he'll get war.

00:16:21.000 And I mean I'm I'm talking about lawfare, legal actions.

00:16:24.000 If Trump can just go now, and and it's fascinating because what did we hear?

00:16:30.000 Was it gonna be end of summer we're gonna start seeing these arrests?

00:16:33.000 I think you can send them packing.

00:16:36.000 You know, now now there's rumors that he might he's he's looking into criminal activity of the Soros uh uh his foundations, uh open society and things like that, and they're gonna get it.

00:16:45.000 They're gonna get it.

00:16:46.000 Is that not really where they need to be targeting, though, these funding bases.

00:16:49.000 There's always gonna be another James Comey is gonna step into the role.

00:16:51.000 That that lobby and that media empire is so big, there's so much power that comes along into it.

00:16:55.000 I'm sure it's not gonna be super difficult to let someone also kind of they can cultivate another individual like that.

00:17:00.000 I would think though that I'd say no.

00:17:02.000 Those financial bases and that sort of media base is really what he probably needs to hit to kind of provide that sort of long-term longevity that's gonna allow them to win, you know, in the by-elections, but also uh it when it got to 2028 as well.

00:17:12.000 My my argument to your question, wouldn't that just be another comey? 0.99

00:17:15.000 The answer is no.

00:17:16.000 You think so?

00:17:17.000 Well, if Trump says, go to war with me and I'll destroy your life and you'll regret it, people are gonna say, I ain't going to war with Trump.

00:17:23.000 And that's what I'm talking about.

00:17:25.000 They tried to play that game.

00:17:26.000 But the problem is Democrats have always been fairly weak.

00:17:29.000 And let me clarify or qualify that statement. 0.94

00:17:32.000 They're willing to go insane.

00:17:34.000 They are willing to send people on the ground.

00:17:36.000 But as people, they're they're the only fear generated by the Democratic Party is the is the system itself, which they inherit, not which they've built. 1.00

00:17:46.000 Trump's a lunatic. 0.99

00:17:47.000 Trump is the guy that people actually think he might press the button. 1.00

00:17:50.000 You know, he had that famous phone call where he told Putin and she he told he told She, if you invade Taiwan and Putin, if you invade uh uh uh what did he say, Kiev or Ukraine, I'm gonna nuke you.

00:18:02.000 And he was like, I don't know if they believed me, maybe five percent.

00:18:05.000 And everyone's kind of like, you know, when Trump says it, you pause for a second.

00:18:09.000 Because when Obama says it, no one actually believes it. 0.75

00:18:11.000 It's not not just that sort of Nixonite mad dog sort of mentality that Nixon's crazy, he's unpredictable.

00:18:17.000 And like obviously that they went after Nixon again with with the lawfare type thing. 0.61

00:18:20.000 I don't think Nixon's got it.

00:18:21.000 I don't think Nin's got anything on Trump.

00:18:23.000 No.

00:18:23.000 Trump put out a public statement saying, Pam, go arrest my enemies now.

00:18:27.000 And so what I think he's hoping for, that was a shot across the bow.

00:18:31.000 I think he's hoping the next in line for a position like Comey, which wouldn't even come unless they win in 2028, is saying, like, dude, best be a fisherman than meddle in the politics of man.

00:18:41.000 Right.

00:18:41.000 That's what Trump is hoping for right now.

00:18:42.000 There's no guarantees it happened.

00:18:44.000 That's why I'm saying if Trump loses, it's it's war.

00:18:47.000 Trump needs to make sure he puts the fear of God in these people.

00:18:52.000 Of I should say, of the federal law enforcement apparatus.

00:18:55.000 Yeah.

00:18:56.000 And uh makes them regret it.

00:18:57.000 They did it to him.

00:18:58.000 And uh and they lost.

00:19:01.000 And now I I say lock him up.

00:19:04.000 Trump's getting old though.

00:19:05.000 I mean, like you're talking about going to warfare with Trump, he's gonna be no offense to Trump, but he's getting older in age.

00:19:10.000 So if they go after him, say he he does retaliation against Comey, good.

00:19:14.000 And and uh Miss La Tisha James, that's cool.

00:19:17.000 They can go they but when he gets out of office, who are they gonna fight against who's gonna get in Trump's place to fight against them?

00:19:24.000 You really think so?

00:19:25.000 Yeah, Vance is going on X calling people uh dip itched.

00:19:28.000 I don't I'm not gonna swear right.

00:19:30.000 You know, but I saw that and I said, that's what I voted for.

00:19:32.000 Is it your opinion that there is no one?

00:19:35.000 Uh no, I'd not well, Vance would be my only guess as of right now, but I don't think I don't think there's any Trump out there today.

00:19:42.000 The Trump side has an amazing bench and the Democrats have none.

00:19:45.000 Yeah.

00:19:45.000 Well, also that's why this is important because you have to make an example out of Comey, like Tim was saying, for any future FBI director, make an example out of Letitia James.

00:19:53.000 Like this lawfare crap is not gonna slide.

00:19:55.000 So whoever that is, it doesn't really matter, whoever it is that replaces Trump, Trump's giving that person breathing room now. 0.98

00:20:01.000 They're not gonna have the boot on their neck of whatever, you know, God forbid a Democrat administration comes back in and they appoint all these chowder heads. 1.00

00:20:07.000 He can give us a little breathing room if he sets the example here and sets it down.

00:20:11.000 If if you know, I feel bad for you, Tate, because like if a if a new Democrat administration gets in, I'll be 42, 43.

00:20:18.000 I had a good life, went on adventures.

00:20:20.000 How old do you take?

00:20:21.000 Twenty four-four.

00:20:22.000 Twenty-four, man.

00:20:23.000 Being in a gulag at 20, 26, 27, all the best years taken away.

00:20:28.000 Oof.

00:20:28.000 But you're right.

00:20:29.000 It gives other people room down the road if Trump gets you're gonna say about it.

00:20:34.000 Look at Phil, rocking out rock star stage, platinum records, and then he doesn't gotta work with the g worry about the gulag till these puts be rocking with the rocks.

00:20:42.000 AOC puts me in the quirked up white boy camp. 0.57

00:20:44.000 It's gonna be terrible.

00:20:46.000 Oh, I'm not looking forward to it.

00:20:47.000 You're gonna be in AOC's harem. 1.00

00:20:49.000 Oh, she likes those white red-headed white guys. 0.95

00:20:54.000 She does like the red-headed white boy.

00:20:55.000 You gotta wear you gotta wear sandals too.

00:20:57.000 You know, I'm not gonna disavow.

00:20:58.000 But yeah, that's good.

00:20:59.000 You're right.

00:21:00.000 If he does, if it does does go through when he prosecutes these people, that gives people down the road at a um in a leeway open path to go and say, Okay, we're gonna prosecute you, you want to go against us.

00:21:09.000 Here we go.

00:21:10.000 From the Daily Beast.

00:21:11.000 Do I have to say it or does somebody else Trump's sinister warning of civil war after ice shooting?

00:21:20.000 Super excited. 0.97

00:21:20.000 Democrats said the president's comments were sick and deranged. 0.97

00:21:25.000 Oh boy.

00:21:25.000 President Donald Trump has warned Democrats that bad things will happen to them if right-wing people decide to retaliate amid growing tensions over this week's deadly shooting at the Texas immigration facility.

00:21:34.000 While investigations into the shooting are still ongoing, the president has made it clear that he believes the radical left is solely responsible for Wednesday's tragedy.

00:21:40.000 I mean, they literally did a press conference and they were like, Yep, he was a leftist and uh he hated Trump, and he said he wanted to strike fear and terror into the hearts of ice agents, so they never know if there's a sniper waiting on the rooftop for him.

00:21:54.000 No law enforcement officers were hurt in the incident, but authorities say the shooting was politically motivated, targeting ICE agents who are central to Trump's deportation strategy.

00:22:02.000 Asked in the Oval Office on Thursday, who was to blame, Trump said he did not doubt the radical left is causing the problem.

00:22:07.000 He also name checked people such as Democrat Congressman Jasmine Crockett, who's been critical of ICE's heavy-handed tactics.

00:22:13.000 But despite calls to turn down the temperature in America, the president went even further, warning that things were only going to get worse for one side.

00:22:19.000 Quote, bad things will happen when they play these games.

00:22:22.000 I'll give you a little clue.

00:22:23.000 The right is a lot tougher than the left.

00:22:25.000 They better not get that uh get they better not get them energized because it won't be good for the left.

00:22:30.000 It'll be a point where other people won't take it anymore, and we don't want that.

00:22:34.000 Now the funny thing is, uh Trump didn't say civil war.

00:22:37.000 Daily Beast did.

00:22:38.000 I did not say civil war.

00:22:40.000 Daily Beast did.

00:22:41.000 The fascinating thing is, while uh for the past several years, people have largely criticized me for covering these articles and talking about this possibility.

00:22:52.000 In the past two or three years, it has largely been the left warning that a civil war was coming.

00:22:57.000 I not no joke, go to Blue Sky or Reddit.

00:23:00.000 And so we we did a few segments on this show where I went to Reddit and looked up all the leftist subreddits where they were basically, they were all saying literally civil war is coming.

00:23:08.000 And uh I think it's because they knew that Trump was gonna win.

00:23:10.000 More importantly, when Trump took a bullet and narrowly survived, everyone on X, left and right said we were millimeters away from a civil war.

00:23:21.000 Now, with the uh I'm gonna say it again, three terror attacks in three weeks.

00:23:25.000 I fully I I tweeted this last night.

00:23:27.000 Am I gonna go to bed and wake up to news of another terror attack?

00:23:29.000 Like I honestly, it's it's been insane.

00:23:31.000 Waking up and I woke up in the morning and it's like Ice facility shut up, it's just gonna keep getting worse because they won't stop.

00:23:38.000 On CNN the other night, Bakari Sellers is basically once again pushing and pushing and pushing.

00:23:44.000 And what I can't understand is why right now, not a single Democrat on any of these shows just says, guys, everybody cool it, stop.

00:23:53.000 Conservatives do it all the time.

00:23:55.000 Conservatives beg for it to stop.

00:23:57.000 Certainly, don't get me wrong, there are liberals and democrats who have called for it.

00:24:01.000 However, they tend to be uh uh lower in in notoriety.

00:24:05.000 I I I saw a former a former spokesperson for Biden or whatever on uh Fox say, yeah, we don't want this, and I'm like, but no one knows who that is.

00:24:12.000 Just no just no following and no and and no influence.

00:24:14.000 No, there's not one prominent Democrat that has come out and said, stop attacking law enforcement, let law enforcement do their job, which is the most antine basic thing that you want to hear out of a uh a representative.

00:24:29.000 If you're a Democrat and you actually want to see the temperature turned down, and you want to you don't want to see more violence, then you need to come out and say, stop inhibiting law enforcement from doing their job.

00:24:44.000 Stop calling them the Gestapo, stop telling them that they have to take their masks off because you know if they take their masks off, what's gonna happen is their family is gonna be doxxed and their families will be attacked.

00:24:56.000 Stop doing all of the stuff that you're doing that is not saying law enforcement has a job and they are empowered to do it.

00:25:03.000 Just stop doing that, and then I might believe that you actually want the violence to stop.

00:25:08.000 And until then, I don't believe that you want the violence to stop.

00:25:11.000 No, I I gotta I gotta interject there.

00:25:12.000 Um masks should come off.

00:25:14.000 And uh I I do agree that, you know, they need to turn the rhetoric down, which can include the mask commentary, but I do think the the feds should not wear masks.

00:25:23.000 I think if you want to go out proudly in defense of this nation, you must accept those risks.

00:25:31.000 And I do not appreciate, and I certainly understand.

00:25:34.000 I am here every single night with my face on camera.

00:25:38.000 I have been doxxed, I have been uh swatted numerous times, I've been attacked.

00:25:42.000 I understand my job doesn't require me to be on the ground in front of these people, but that's something they accept, even with masks on that there's a physical danger that they are experiencing.

00:25:52.000 I think we cannot play a game where we have federal law enforcement being like the threat of terrorism is so serious, we have to hide ourselves.

00:26:01.000 I think each and every one of these officers engaging in this should take their masks off and say, I am name, you know, John Smith, a proud American, legally and lawfully enforcing the law, you are terrorists and we won't stand for it.

00:26:15.000 That's that that's it.

00:26:17.000 We should I I'm sorry, I'm not playing this.

00:26:19.000 Federal law enforcement get to hide their faces because they're scared. 0.97

00:26:22.000 We know, I get it, and I feel for you because the left are violent psychopaths.

00:26:26.000 But I I don't think this is how we should be handling it.

00:26:30.000 I think we should be we have to be uh um I don't know, steadfast, vigilant, and uh I don't know, uh just we we have to we have to face this challenge head on.

00:26:43.000 If we're better than them, real quick, if if if we think we're better than them, which we did we are and we think we are, um, and we feel a certain way we should take off.

00:26:51.000 You're right.

00:26:51.000 I like the idea of taking off the mask because we stand for a purpose and a point.

00:26:55.000 Nope, everyone's putting everyone's posting ones, you're all wrong.

00:26:57.000 Like, I I am I am not gonna tolerate.

00:26:59.000 I I I will not live in a country where cops walk around with no badge numbers and masks on covering their faces because they're scared.

00:27:06.000 Because they're scared.

00:27:07.000 You are you are operating under color of law.

00:27:10.000 You are entitled to do so.

00:27:11.000 You are protected to do so.

00:27:12.000 And fear of far left terror, I do not believe is a good enough reason that the regular people should have to live with cops walking around in all black.

00:27:19.000 I mean, I think there has to be some sort of preemptive measures for that.

00:27:22.000 And then these people with families and kids and livelihoods, like, yes, they're representing the federal government, but I mean, and of course they're scared, but there hasn't been a lot of you know preemptive measures to counter this far left terrorism.

00:27:33.000 I mean, we're starting to see it now following the Charlie Kirk's assassination, but these guys are gonna want guarantees.

00:27:38.000 Otherwise, I imagine a lot of them will just walk out their jobs if they're told they have to have to unmask.

00:27:42.000 You know, they're living next to these people.

00:27:44.000 We we've seen from the backlash of you know, of Charlie Kirk's mother, how many people in Blue Sky we just uh hundreds of thousands of likes calling for deaths of you know Ben Shapiro, other uh politicians, political commentators, they want blood, and these people are living next door to them.

00:27:57.000 You don't know who they are.

00:27:58.000 Okay.

00:27:59.000 They're so emboldened that it's gonna be very difficult for t to persuade these guys, yeah, let's demask, and then next minute they're getting knocks at the door, their family's being harassed, or they're actually potentially gonna be able to do that.

00:28:08.000 I totally I totally get it.

00:28:09.000 You've got two options, civil war or not.

00:28:12.000 And if the argument is the threat of far left terror is so pervasive in our hometowns that our own police officers have to hide their identities, you're in a civil war.

00:28:21.000 End of story, no argument.

00:28:23.000 Let me say it again to everyone out there that are telling me, you're telling me that I have to live in a country where any cop anywhere is going to not have a badge number visible, they're going to cover their faces so they can't be doxxed.

00:28:35.000 I don't get to know who they are.

00:28:37.000 You are at war when that is the reality.

00:28:39.000 If that's what you're saying.

00:28:40.000 And I got no problem with that's the reality.

00:28:41.000 And I agree with you then.

00:28:43.000 If you want to say civil war has begun, then I'll say, okay, mask up.

00:28:48.000 Because I understand the argument.

00:28:49.000 Law enforcement may quit.

00:28:51.000 We'll have nobody willing to actually do the job because the far left is gonna come for their families.

00:28:57.000 Yeah, you're at war.

00:28:58.000 If you if you're saying they're insurgent terrorists all across this country that will kill you and your family, you are at war.

00:29:03.000 That's just it.

00:29:04.000 That's what I think it is.

00:29:05.000 I think that people don't realize, particularly on the right, they don't realize how aggressive and vicious you know these people really are.

00:29:12.000 I don't think that you know, as a society that we've really stepped back and looked at it because the media institutions are kind of they're they're they're encouraging it, right?

00:29:19.000 Like all this dehumanizing language like calling them the Gestapo.

00:29:22.000 I mean, that's what it's for, is to dehumanize them to justify violence.

00:29:25.000 Let me ask you I'm gonna ask you guys a quick question.

00:29:26.000 Why does Antifa wear masks? 1.00

00:29:28.000 So no one knows who they are.

00:29:30.000 And and why don't they want anyone to know who they are?

00:29:32.000 Because they're doing bad things.

00:29:33.000 But what what but that's not an answer.

00:29:35.000 Oh, it was an answer, but uh what they don't want to know because they're a group, they're like a a blob of group of people.

00:29:41.000 Why does Antifa wear masks? 1.00

00:29:43.000 They wear masks and well, the black block wear masks and stuff so that way they can blend back into the crowd. 1.00

00:29:48.000 And what does that accomplish for them?

00:29:49.000 So that way they won't get arrested.

00:29:50.000 Well, they will get arrested.

00:29:52.000 They're anonymous.

00:29:53.000 Like you you a cop can grab anybody off the street and arrest them regardless of what they're wearing.

00:29:56.000 The purpose of wearing a mask is so that you can't take pictures of their face, you can't share their information online, and if they get caught, you can't prosecute them because you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:30:06.000 We are asking for that same thing with our law enforcement as well.

00:30:09.000 And if you want to acknowledge that we are saying we want our law enforcement people to go out, you can't figure out who they are, you can't take pictures of their face, anything that happens in the fray, we won't be able to pinpoint which officer necessarily because just like Antifa, we have created a large group of individuals that are wearing the exact same clothes and you can't see their face.

00:30:29.000 This means that if one of these guys in in a in in a conflict with the far left cracks a skull or whatever, they can't do anything legally about it.

00:30:37.000 If that's the argument you're gonna make, we are in a civil war period.

00:30:43.000 Well, the big thing with ICE that we're we're all missing here is that the reason they have the mask primarily is because they're dealing with drug bust and the cartel, and like that's a massive infrastructure, especially in the southwest United States, and they've been masking for like 10 years now, and it's primarily because okay, yes, there is a factor at the far left where they dox these guys, but the ice is in a completely different battlefield from the rest of like I guess you would say the right wing is because ICE is having to deal with the cartel, they're having to deal with these drug busts and busting up these human trafficking uh, you know, routes and these sorts of things.

00:31:12.000 So it's like it's not the far left they're worried about.

00:31:14.000 Like if you talk to these ICE agents, typically it's the cartels and the retribution from those guys is what they're typically.

00:31:19.000 I I get it, I get it.

00:31:20.000 I agree.

00:31:21.000 I I I respect that argument for sure.

00:31:22.000 If uh but uh again, I'm gonna say this bottom line.

00:31:26.000 If y'all want to say we're at war, then uh war powers.

00:31:30.000 And what does that mean?

00:31:31.000 Guys, if you're arguing that the these that our federal law enforcement should be able to wear masks because of wartime conditions, I'm actually gonna push you one further and say you are not giving our men and women enough.

00:31:45.000 If if the argument is the threat of the far left terror is so great against their families, we got to step it up.

00:31:50.000 Well, I mean not just masks.

00:31:52.000 They got to get more.

00:31:54.000 But they need selective fire rifles.

00:31:56.000 They need full full military everything.

00:31:57.000 They already have select fire rifles.

00:31:59.000 But the point the cops, not the beat cops.

00:32:00.000 Uh well, yeah, okay.

00:32:01.000 So they don't they usually have a uh a rifle in their car.

00:32:04.000 Um they don't carry it them on there.

00:32:06.000 But the point is, so you're talking about ICE that's trying to carry out these j these uh you know, these they're trying to wrap up the the illegal.

00:32:14.000 Well, I was talking specifically about all federal law enforcement.

00:32:17.000 I think a lot of people are taking that to assume just the ice.

00:32:20.000 I'm saying Well, generally ICE is the one are the ones that are wearing the masks and stuff, right?

00:32:24.000 So there you don't see a lot of well, you don't see we we do.

00:32:27.000 That's what people are complaining about, right?

00:32:29.000 The the general argument is that police shouldn't be wearing masks.

00:32:32.000 So okay, fine.

00:32:33.000 I'm saying I don't want to live where police like I mentioned local cops wearing masks.

00:32:37.000 Okay, fine.

00:32:38.000 But this so the federal law enforcement are wearing masks, right?

00:32:41.000 And we don't, and you say you don't want that.

00:32:43.000 What that requires, right?

00:32:44.000 You're saying if they have to wear masks, that means that the pro the violence and the problems are grit are too great to be considered normal.

00:32:52.000 But that for the local police who have jurisdiction to go out and pick up the people that might actually attack the federal law enforcement, they're not doing it because the sanctuary cities are saying no, we won't have these people do these things because we won't, you know, and the and the local municipalities won't do it.

00:33:10.000 So the problem is the federal government needs to get the local municipalities and stuff to actually do their job.

00:33:16.000 So let me ask you a quick ask quick question.

00:33:19.000 When there is a uh, let's just say like a jurisdiction for lack of a better word, that um is not uh uh does not is not required to abide by the laws of a separate jurisdiction.

00:33:31.000 It largely says we don't have not you don't have anything to do with us.

00:33:34.000 There's there's two separate locations.

00:33:37.000 When jurisdiction B sends armed men into jurisdiction A to enforce laws that jurisdiction A says we do not abide by.

00:33:47.000 What do you call that?

00:33:49.000 Um when they when they send people into the city.

00:33:53.000 There are two there are two isolated jurisdictions, yeah, two isolated jurisdictions with separate laws, different worldviews, different rules.

00:34:03.000 One city decides to arm a bunch of guys and send them into the other side by force against their will to enforce laws that the other city wants enforcement.

00:34:10.000 So you're pointing at civil war.

00:34:12.000 I'm not talking about civil war, I'm talking about it's war.

00:34:14.000 It's just period war.

00:34:16.000 If the argument is that California won't abide by federal law, has has ordered their people to defy federal law, is allowing individuals to defy federal law, they are not part of this country as it is.

00:34:27.000 Part of this country means that your your structures, state, city, local, or otherwise, are going to uh abide by uh uh uh legal supremacy in this country up to the Constitution.

00:34:38.000 What we are seeing right now, if this is the argument, is that blue states have just said absolutely not.

00:34:43.000 And when Trump said this is our our election happened, people said immigration, we're gonna go and start rounding people up.

00:34:49.000 What happened?

00:34:50.000 At the at the governmental level, Gavin Newsom fought the the federal law federal law enforcement, ordering the National Guard not to listen to Donald Trump under his under his orders, which he's allowed to do because they're not enforcing the law.

00:35:04.000 If our ICE agents, let's let's let's isolate it to ICE, are at a point where they're facing a threat from terrorists that have support from Democrat politicians who uh help fundraise for them, NGOs run by prominent Democrat donors, and in California, Gavin Newsom and local law enforcement lets these people attack federal facilities.

00:35:28.000 I would call that akin to piracy, right?

00:35:32.000 And uh at that point, I think it's very obvious when you break it down that way, we are in a civil war.

00:35:37.000 Yeah, I just think like if you look from like Trump's perspective, right?

00:35:40.000 He's tried to de-escalate this Charlie Kirk situation.

00:35:42.000 That hasn't been like hard rhetoric, get retribution.

00:35:45.000 And like in that article you were talking about, he he didn't mention civil war.

00:35:49.000 He was just warning like from a very logical position, if you keep attacking the right, eventually they're gonna go, are we supposed to just sit and take it?

00:35:54.000 Or are we gonna retaliate?

00:35:55.000 That's kind of what he was saying there.

00:35:56.000 He wasn't saying it from like a Republican position.

00:35:58.000 So if you're Trump, you tell them to demask, which I believe that all federal employees, particularly Laura and Folsom, there should be that accountability, your face should be out there in an ideal world.

00:36:06.000 But let's say they do demask.

00:36:07.000 Not at war.

00:36:08.000 Yeah.

00:36:08.000 We we we know that there's gonna be some sort of physical retribution, attacks on these people.

00:36:14.000 Uh that's only gonna escalate the situation, right, to something that is gonna be more kinetic, that the potentially is gonna be far more divisive.

00:36:20.000 I don't think he wants to be the president that has that is dealing with that on his plate.

00:36:24.000 He wants to just get his policies done in the way which is most amical as possible as possible. 0.97

00:36:29.000 They obviously don't want that, which is why we're in this situation now.

00:36:31.000 But then I do not attack I give you two options then stop pussyfooting around and go and arrest all of them. 0.64

00:36:41.000 Don't give me this excuse I'm scared I have to wear a mask.

00:36:45.000 Send the law enforcement to kick the doors into the far left people that are threatening you and put them in prison then take your mask off.

00:36:51.000 Agreed 100% I'm I'm sick of this half measure.

00:36:54.000 I don't think that they have the ability to isolate the people that are actually making the that are that are likely to do like the doxing and stuff like that.

00:37:03.000 That I think it's part of the problem.

00:37:04.000 I don't care the the the the doxing is annoying but at the same time it is the individuals who carry out the the violence that are the real problem.

00:37:14.000 Getting doxed is bad.

00:37:16.000 We've been doxed and it's crazy what people are capable of.

00:37:20.000 But the guy who posts my address is a problem the the guy who comes here to carry out the threat is the threat.

00:37:25.000 But it's not a unitary organized like attack like so like you look at the the the you know alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk.

00:37:30.000 I don't think there were as far as we're aware there weren't big indications that this was a guy who was militarized and violent and ready to assassinate.

00:37:38.000 And if it was it seems from the evidence that I've seen it seems like it was something that was almost like a spur of the moment he hit a psychological breaking point and decided to do that.

00:37:46.000 The more akin to random acts of violence is not like a big organized premeditated right we're going to get that guy we're going to get that.

00:37:51.000 So it's much harder to tackle yes I get it.

00:37:53.000 If your argument is any one of these individuals walking down the street at any moment might turn around and stab you then it's time for Trump to dissolve the U.S. Constitution under artic uh under under Presidential Directive 51 create a an enduring constitutional government under a single branch as as uh George W Bush's executive order in 2007 granted the executive branch power to do and then he can send out his masked militarized police force across the country to make sure this doesn't happen.

00:38:22.000 But the argument that we are at a point where a random individual might pull out a gun and shoot you at any moment if that is the case it is worse than anyone realizes we are in an active civil war and instead of half assing it and being like just keep doing your job but hide in the meantime that's insane.

00:38:40.000 How do you fight an idea?

00:38:41.000 How do you fight an idea like it's not a organized structure that Trump dissolves the United States and creates the first American empire and then he creates a massive multi-billion dollar federal police force that supersedes all the local governments and then starts searching people's homes and and I mean what what what is the argument to at any moment a random liberal might detonate a bomb or shoot somebody it's almost like a denazification program at that point.

00:39:04.000 You'd have to go in and you'd have to gut the institutions it would be a complete like you said like it'd be a transformative measure.

00:39:10.000 I don't think I don't think he's he's got the appetite for that.

00:39:13.000 Let's let's just try and do the math.

00:39:15.000 Three terror three terror attacks in three weeks.

00:39:18.000 Uh-huh it was mainstream liberal ideology that was behind the shoot that the murder of Charlie Kirk.

00:39:24.000 Right.

00:39:24.000 So I I I agree with your point.

00:39:26.000 I think you are correct.

00:39:27.000 We don't know who's been radicalized.

00:39:30.000 It could be too many people and even AOC is espousing the ideology that this guy shared that motivated him on the House floor.

00:39:37.000 Okay let's let's let's try denazification so um how do we figure out who holds the ideology and is needing of a re-education well I mean we're going to follow the donors.

00:39:48.000 We're going to see like the top down media who this this was a random guy at home like you mentioned it's a random you could look at the media he was consuming right you could you can see the groups that he's in the ideologies he's identifying with.

00:39:58.000 Right so my question is how do you find him before he kills Charlie Kirk?

00:40:01.000 That's almost like how do you stop a guy if it's almost like a thought crime before they they've done it.

00:40:05.000 Agree you can't which is why I said the solution to the problem you're describing is Trump dissolving the the the three branches of government under Presidential Directive 51 creating an enduring constitutional government as prescribed by national security presidential directive presidential directive 51 and then he creates a federalized police force which goes and secures every street corner because we don't know at what point a liberal is going to just go start from at the mouth plot a gun and shoot a random person.

00:40:29.000 Now I don't think we can live that way and I don't think anyone would tolerate that.

00:40:32.000 So the idea is right now where are we?

00:40:35.000 Law enforcement can't do their job because the threat of left wing terror is too great.

00:40:38.000 Okay, well, we're losing then.

00:40:41.000 We we we are losing if that's the case.

00:40:43.000 I don't want to lose.

00:40:44.000 There's no such thing as we're going to knock on doors and ask people if they're radicalized and then bring them to a re-education center.

00:40:51.000 Yeah.

00:40:51.000 There's no way we're going to find some random dude who's on Discord who one day decided to take his grandfather's gun and go assassinate Charlie Kirk, because they're just people walking around.

00:41:00.000 If the radicalization is that bad, then the only answer is full-blown full-scale American empire.

00:41:06.000 Like Trump has to go iron fist on the table right now before it actually comes to multifaction war across the United States.

00:41:15.000 I would argue even Trump's base doesn't have the appetite for that.

00:41:17.000 I don't know.

00:41:18.000 I mean, like this this is the point I'm making.

00:41:21.000 To everybody who's like, no, law enforcement should wear masks.

00:41:23.000 If your argument is we need our law enforcement to mask up because they fear that the left will attack them and will go after their families, we've lost.

00:41:34.000 Like what we are describing is we are a diminished capacity force with scared federal law enforcement that are concerned that the might of leftist terror would overwhelm them and they won't be able to do their jobs, so they have to hide themselves.

00:41:48.000 The reason why Antifa wear masks is because there is a more powerful state that can crush them, and they're trying to hide from it.

00:41:55.000 But when communists take power, they put on uniforms.

00:41:58.000 If the argument is our men in uniform have to hide, we are losing.

00:42:04.000 I mean, I I know in the UK, for example, they would do this almost harassment of dissidents where before people could commit a crime.

00:42:11.000 And it the UK's got a huge amount of these human rights problems.

00:42:14.000 But one of the things that they did do fairly well, which has curbed rabbit radicalism, is when they see people expressing these ideological tendencies, they will get these knocks on the door.

00:42:22.000 And the idea is that you're being watched, you're going to be less emboldened to go do something.

00:42:25.000 But I fully disagree with that law because it can be massively abused.

00:42:32.000 You're in a society that is so polarized now with such a lust for political violence on one side, and then the other side is kind of going, well, look, no no no cities burnt down when Charlie Kirk was killed.

00:42:44.000 It's like, yeah, that's a great virtue, but when the other side literally wants you dead, what what what is the solution?

00:42:49.000 What can Trump realistically do?

00:42:51.000 And what what what is the the average Republican voter actually going to do themselves to try and negate that fact?

00:42:56.000 It's a very difficult question.

00:42:58.000 Well, here's a story from the postmillennial.

00:42:59.000 Trump signs order launching all of government effort to dismantle left-wing domestic terror groups.

00:43:05.000 The post-millenni reports President Trump signed a memorandum on Thursday launching an administration-wide effort to dismantle left-wing domestic terror groups across the country.

00:43:12.000 The order seeks to interdict the groups, block them performing from performing violent acts, and the administration will look at sources of funding.

00:43:19.000 Let's play the video.

00:43:20.000 They're anarchists and agitators, professional anarchists and agitators, and they get hired by wealthy people.

00:43:27.000 Some of whom I know, I guess.

00:43:29.000 Yeah, I probably know them.

00:43:31.000 And uh you wouldn't know it. 0.97

00:43:32.000 You at dinner with them, everything's nice, and then you find out that they funded millions of dollars to these lunatics. 0.83

00:43:38.000 Uh Steve, could you say a couple of words? 0.90

00:43:40.000 Yes, that's right.

00:43:41.000 This is a very historic and significant day.

00:43:44.000 This is the first time in American history that there is an all-of-government effort to dismantle left-wing terrorism, to dismantle Antifa, to dismantle the organizations that have been carrying out these acts of political violence and terrorism.

00:43:58.000 What we have seen, if you look at whether it be going back to the riots that started with Black Lives Matter and all the way through to the Antifa riots, the attacks on ICE officers, the doxing campaigns, and now the political assassinations, isn't that lone isolated events?

00:44:12.000 This is part of an organized campaign of radical left terrorism.

00:44:16.000 It is structured, it is sophisticated, it is well funded, it is well planned.

00:44:20.000 There is really no parallel like this anything to anything else in the country right now.

00:44:25.000 There is an entire system of feeder organizations that provide money, resources, weapons, and when they're attacking ICE officers, they're attacking federal buildings, whether isolating public officials for harassment, doxing, intimidation, and ultimately attempted assassination.

00:44:41.000 It is all carefully planned, executed, and thought through.

00:44:44.000 It is terrorism on our soil.

00:44:46.000 Because of this executive order, cash and PAM are gonna have the tools they need working with Scott to take these organizations apart piece by piece.

00:44:54.000 And the central hub of that effort is going to be the joint terrorism task force or JTTF, which sits inside the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

00:45:02.000 But for those at home who are worried about terrorism in this country, they need to understand because of President Trump's strength, because of his vision, because of his leadership, we are now going to use the entire force of the federal government to uproot these organizations root and branch.

00:45:15.000 And again, that's only possible because of President Trump and his leadership.

00:45:18.000 Thank you, Steve Case.

00:45:19.000 I'm going to take this opportunity to announce my retirement.

00:45:23.000 This will be my last show.

00:45:24.000 I've decided that um You're doing this again.

00:45:27.000 I shouldn't be showing my face because of the threats against me and my family.

00:45:31.000 I think I have been convinced by the audience.

00:45:33.000 The threats that we've received over the past week, even being completely uninvolved in anything related to TPUSA, have been so tremendous that my security team warned I wouldn't be able to travel.

00:45:47.000 And a disguise wasn't necessarily an option because my travel itinerary stuff can be leaked as well, especially by employees who are doing load manifest.

00:45:56.000 And uh the issue being that with prominent mainstream run-of-the-mill liberals posting that they wanted to see these deaths.

00:46:02.000 The concern is you're absolutely right, Joseph, in what you were saying.

00:46:06.000 We don't know which one of these people might just see a flight manifest and then send a message to a Discord saying Tim Pool's gonna be on this plane.

00:46:13.000 Here's when it's landing.

00:46:14.000 So the the ultimate decision was we could buy four plane tickets, you, your wife, two security guards, you'll land, we'll have an S two two security guards waiting for you, four-person escort to an armored SUV, which will bring you to a hotel where we'll stand guard outside of your uh outside of the door for uh 24-7 security, be transported to the event where security will stay with you at all times, and then you will go back, you'll be confined to your hotel.

00:46:38.000 I said, I don't think I want to do that.

00:46:40.000 And uh they said uh you probably shouldn't travel.

00:46:44.000 And you know, so I think I think everybody's correct in that I'm not a law enforcement guy.

00:46:49.000 I'm just somebody with opinions and the threats are really great, and they're trying to figure out where I live.

00:46:53.000 They they they come to my house.

00:46:56.000 Why would I take this risk at all?

00:46:58.000 So I quit.

00:47:01.000 Um uh just uh because just I'm sorry to hear that, Tim.

00:47:04.000 Um, but also in the political world, uh, we're talking about how anything can happen any time left wingers or liberal folks can get crazy right off the bat.

00:47:11.000 We live in that world now.

00:47:12.000 Look at that young lady who got stabbed on the on the on the train. 0.83

00:47:15.000 Anyone right now, today you walk in on the street, you get shot and killed by anyone by anyone anywhere.

00:47:20.000 So it's just we're just focusing on the political world.

00:47:22.000 I'll I'll be I'll be more serious about it.

00:47:24.000 I I don't understand the argument that people are telling me I'm wrong about asking our law enforcement to stand firm and proud and fight for their country, and they're saying no, they should hide, but then expecting me to have to live in a box.

00:47:37.000 Yeah.

00:47:37.000 Uh I'd I'd much rather just I can I can you know it's really funny.

00:47:42.000 I uh I put on a blue t-shirt.

00:47:43.000 Oh, I should describe that declaration.

00:47:45.000 Yeah, I've seen that.

00:47:45.000 Well, I'll just say it.

00:47:46.000 I put on a blue t-shirt, took my hat off and put on glasses, and no one knew who I was.

00:47:50.000 You walked and we're like, who is this guy?

00:47:52.000 Yep, everybody, and then and then I walked up and they went, uh So uh, you know, I I I can be real, like if if this is the opinion people have honest question, why do you expect me to do this forward-facing publicly with my own name, where I'm worried about whether our food's being tampered with, we can't order food, we have to have bodyguards.

00:48:12.000 Like, why am I living this way if our law enforcement gets special protections and privileges?

00:48:17.000 You expect me to do all of this.

00:48:19.000 I'm just kind of like, maybe you guys are right.

00:48:22.000 Maybe we should all hide.

00:48:24.000 Maybe we shouldn't put ourselves at risk.

00:48:26.000 I can launch a new YouTube channel with uh with an AI.

00:48:29.000 There's like the isn't isn't that honest question.

00:48:32.000 Is liberal hive mind just AI, right?

00:48:33.000 That YouTube channel?

00:48:36.000 Okay.

00:48:37.000 Because it very much sounds like AI.

00:48:39.000 Okay.

00:48:40.000 That's just how he is.

00:48:41.000 Okay, sorry, I didn't mean to impugn your honor, sir.

00:48:43.000 Um, but I could just launch an AI channel, no one over it'll um uh make it a woman. 1.00

00:48:47.000 Yeah, you uh you're using AI Avatar female, like you know, you know what I'll do?

00:48:50.000 What the that the anime waifu you do that they tuber. 0.99

00:48:54.000 Yes, you can move around and they move, you can be like a rabbit with a chick.

00:48:57.000 Oh, bro, I'm out.

00:48:58.000 Why don't I do that?

00:49:00.000 I mean it could be a VTuber.

00:49:01.000 You've yeah, your voice, you'd have to use changers.

00:49:05.000 None.

00:49:05.000 Easy.

00:49:06.000 I mean, those real-time AI voice changes.

00:49:08.000 You're way more front-facing towards the political uh world than the cops are than one cop on the street, then one of the things that's a good thing.

00:49:13.000 Which is which which my point would would be that most of these cops have substantially less risk than I do.

00:49:18.000 Yes, they do.

00:49:19.000 So if the argument is uh they should wear masks, no one should know who they are because the left are terrorists.

00:49:26.000 I'm like, I'm I'm I'm being 100% serious, thinking about that, like if that's what people really think, I don't they just killed Charlie.

00:49:33.000 Like maybe none of us should be doing this, and we should just sit back and let Trump do his thing.

00:49:36.000 But for an ICE agent, what difference does it make for their job if they have their face out there in their name?

00:49:41.000 Because at the end of the day, they're a badge and they're conducting an operation, a very specific job.

00:49:45.000 Like it doesn't matter if they're a public individual or not.

00:49:48.000 We're trying to get we're trying to get legal immigrants out. 1.00

00:49:50.000 Like panelists.

00:49:51.000 Right.

00:49:51.000 The argument is the far left might try to dox them.

00:49:53.000 And I'm sitting here being like, well, I'm already doxxed. 0.98

00:49:56.000 The far left, once they dox, they might try to kill them. 0.54

00:49:58.000 Like they're literally trying to kill me, and we have people showing up, and I have to get guns and right.

00:50:02.000 But if you're an ICE agent making, I mean, I know they're getting paid decent, but they don't have the money for security or anything.

00:50:07.000 And it's like it doesn't, it does it's not advantageous for them in any way to be like a public-facing person.

00:50:12.000 Like it doesn't if anything, it just makes it worse.

00:50:15.000 But they're not a public facing person.

00:50:19.000 No, there's there's tons of anonymous personalities that make tons of money doing political commentary.

00:50:23.000 Yeah, it's true.

00:50:24.000 Um, yeah.

00:50:24.000 I mean, I and I think that's fine.

00:50:26.000 I do think there's value.

00:50:28.000 Maybe maybe that's where we're going.

00:50:29.000 I mean, look, Charlie got assassinated.

00:50:31.000 Yeah, I I do I do actually think like anonymous or pseudonyms is like fine in the political space, and they're able to push ideas without fear of getting killed.

00:50:40.000 I mean, people ultimately buy from people, and when they're, you know, you are disseminating ideas, they're buying into an idea, they're buying into, especially if you become a living embodiment of that idea.

00:50:48.000 I I I want to be like that guy.

00:50:50.000 Right, right.

00:50:50.000 Um, I want to live in the way that he lives, because he seems really fulfilled.

00:50:54.000 I understand what you're saying completely, like let's they should be demasked, but what that would be would be a giant gambit, and you would we we know what would happen.

00:51:02.000 We would see families being targeted, we would potentially see these targeted assassinations, but it'd be on a much larger scale.

00:51:09.000 I don't I don't I don't think so.

00:51:11.000 You don't?

00:51:12.000 No.

00:51:12.000 Well, why why aren't they?

00:51:14.000 There's no there is a risk that there's a risk department somewhere that there's an individual down and gone because they need to wear masks.

00:51:19.000 Because there's a reason why they killed Charlie Kirk and not an individual ICE agent.

00:51:22.000 There's tons of federal law enforcement, including guys that aren't wearing masks, just some of them are.

00:51:26.000 And they went three.

00:51:27.000 Yeah.

00:51:27.000 They killed they killed Charlie.

00:51:29.000 Right.

00:51:29.000 But like they they tried to kill ICE agents.

00:51:31.000 Who did?

00:51:32.000 Like two days ago.

00:51:33.000 No, who's of Jen John?

00:51:36.000 John or whatever.

00:51:37.000 Oh, right, right, right.

00:51:38.000 And they're and they were that so that's that but that was indiscriminate.

00:51:41.000 That wasn't a targeted guy's house.

00:51:42.000 No, but this is the third terror attack on ice where they went to a facility and attacked random people.

00:51:46.000 In fact, he killed detainees.

00:51:47.000 Right.

00:51:48.000 The argument we're making is they will go to the home of the of the ICE agent.

00:51:52.000 I mean, yeah, presumably if they're information, if they're privy to information at some point.

00:51:56.000 I mean, you can go on LinkedIn and find this.

00:51:57.000 I mean, it's in the cartel is a I mean, the case.

00:51:59.000 You got you got you got you got a C BP facility here.

00:52:01.000 You could just sit outside and collect license plates.

00:52:03.000 I mean, the cart the cartel thing's important.

00:52:05.000 We've seen like the assassination of various DEA agents, right?

00:52:08.000 Like that that that happens a lot, right?

00:52:10.000 They would be in the same realm as that.

00:52:12.000 However, the difference is is that that is like you know, the cartels are a foreign organization.

00:52:16.000 So it's seen as an external threat, foreign terrorist organization.

00:52:18.000 Yeah, no, I think the cartels when it's on your own soil and it's your next door neighbor, it's the guy sitting next to you on the bus.

00:52:23.000 It's it it's a completely different, almost like years of led type scenario.

00:52:27.000 Uh yeah, if it if they do demask, that obviously not because there has been a risk risk management sort of assessment, probably like hundreds and hundreds of pages long that it's gone actually, it's probably best that these guys stay masked up.

00:52:38.000 Yeah.

00:52:38.000 The reason why the left doesn't have any leaders, they actually do.

00:52:42.000 Uh and I I will tell you this from literally being in these direct action meetings with leftists.

00:52:48.000 They have leaders, the leaders organize, they supply money, tools, and then they say, I'm not your leader, and if anyone asks, I'm not in charge.

00:52:57.000 Step back.

00:52:57.000 When they go out to protest, you'll never see anybody directly leading the group because they they they say law enforcement will target any perceived leaders.

00:53:07.000 So that's why they say Antifa is a leaderless movement.

00:53:10.000 It has leaders, they're just lying. 1.00

00:53:12.000 Liberals cover up for them, or they're just stupid. 1.00

00:53:14.000 Someone is some someone is funding these tools. 1.00

00:53:17.000 Someone is buying these things and handing them out.

00:53:19.000 Someone is telling these people where to go.

00:53:21.000 Someone is is saying, here's the route we're going to take.

00:53:24.000 And it's usually a small group.

00:53:26.000 The hierarchy is natural.

00:53:28.000 Usually it's a young guy who says, here's what we're doing, and they say, Okay.

00:53:32.000 Because I mean, let's just be real.

00:53:34.000 Communism isn't a real thing.

00:53:35.000 The idea that there's like a truly decentralized group of friends all holding hands, just being like, how many of you want to vote for a route that goes down Broadway and turns left at 45th?

00:53:44.000 Raise your hand.

00:53:45.000 They don't do that.

00:53:46.000 One guy goes, here's the plan.

00:53:48.000 We're gonna march from the financial district down Broadway.

00:53:51.000 We're gonna turn left at 42nd, make our way to Bryant Park.

00:53:54.000 From there, we've got a group waiting with Shields, and they go, Okay.

00:53:57.000 Now who's that guy?

00:53:58.000 Who does he work for?

00:53:59.000 Where's his money coming from?

00:54:01.000 I mean, that's what this needs to resolve.

00:54:02.000 Indeed.

00:54:03.000 And but has it when we were talking before the show, but that potentially this doesn't actually change much.

00:54:08.000 Like, is this really gonna give him the tools and give the FBI the tools to dig into these people, hold them accountable?

00:54:15.000 I mean, it is kind of that vague thing.

00:54:16.000 I made a donation.

00:54:17.000 I don't I don't know what happened to the money after it went out.

00:54:19.000 I I thought it was for a good cause.

00:54:21.000 It was it was a misappropriation of funds.

00:54:24.000 They know what they're doing. 0.98

00:54:25.000 They're not stupid, they're highly sophisticated actors. 0.90

00:54:28.000 These when they are doing these donations and they are sort of pushing these ideas and kind of giving someone a tap on the shoulder to do something, it's done in a way where they're not going to be held legally accountable. 0.90

00:54:37.000 The donors themselves are the people that are actually making the donations, if they're in the small denomination, they likely do think, okay, I'm just doing this to help, because like the people that donated to Black Lives Matter, they were conned, and you know, those people they thought they were doing something good.

00:54:53.000 But the people that are running the organization and and those people, you know, they have to file paperwork and and et cetera, those people you can wrap up, and those people the the DOJ can look into.

00:55:02.000 Um and then any big donations, like you know, really sizable, hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, that's something the fed the feds can look into as well.

00:55:10.000 What if Trump was like we're declaring Antifa a terrorist organization?

00:55:16.000 All of those who are flying the symbols of Antifa, who are alleging uh pledging allegiance to or support for fair game.

00:55:28.000 I think that that's yeah, I think that's the solution should be.

00:55:31.000 Yeah.

00:55:31.000 So our commies are right.

00:55:33.000 But you're you're saying that like that means regular citizens going out, taking an uh individual action as a civilian against someone who's flying the anti-fa flag.

00:55:41.000 Oh no, my I misunderstood.

00:55:43.000 I thought you were talking about law enforcement.

00:55:46.000 I'm just saying, No, I'm saying Trump tells everyone in this country if you as an individual stop someone who's flying anti-fa like, but I mean, if so, sir.

00:55:58.000 I I asked you a question, what if Trump did that?

00:56:00.000 Uh that would that would be a terrible uh situation because Well, so the reason I ask that question is that Trump has a designated Antifa a terrorist organization.

00:56:10.000 What does that mean if you are a a citizen of this country and you are walking down the street and you see a guy with a gun waving an ISIS flag?

00:56:19.000 Will you go to jail if you stop that person?

00:56:21.000 Depends on the jurisdiction.

00:56:23.000 I that's why I'm asking what would happen.

00:56:25.000 The point I'm making with the question is Trump has said Antifa are terrorists.

00:56:30.000 What is the legal ramification of a of a citizen saying citizens arrest or citizen enforcement action against a terrorist flying a terrorist flag?

00:56:39.000 Yeah, if you're a terrorist on my land, I have a right to stop you in my country from doing terror.

00:56:42.000 Well, I don't know what you do.

00:56:43.000 Well, I'm just saying, like, in general, like you would think that folks would want to stop terrorism on their own.

00:56:48.000 It should be.

00:56:48.000 I mean, like, let's say there was like an Islamic terrorist.

00:56:50.000 Yeah.

00:56:51.000 I the the the that was waving one of the several flags, I'm not sure they're gonna say we get demonetized, but it's like, I'm sure I doubt a jury in a court would prosecute them for you know, this guy's waving with a firearm or whatever, and the he shoots him and preemptively stops upset terror.

00:57:05.000 It all depends on the jurisdiction.

00:57:07.000 But I mean totally depends on the jurisdiction.

00:57:08.000 Yeah.

00:57:09.000 You do that in New York, you're going to jail forever.

00:57:11.000 Right.

00:57:12.000 If the guy was actually if the guy was actually shooting at people in New York, there's a still a possibility that you would go to jail if you took them out.

00:57:20.000 Well, I mean, that that's something that needs to be addressed on a federal level.

00:57:23.000 Is it even possible?

00:57:24.000 Can can they do that?

00:57:24.000 I mean, I'm not familiar with the city.

00:57:25.000 Well, and uh, it would be a local thing.

00:57:28.000 The feds don't actually the feds wouldn't actually have jurisdiction over that.

00:57:31.000 The blue states are in a soft succession right now, uh, because like they have sanctuary states, so they're softly succeeding, trying to, but they're not really doing it, but they're just it's really like it's like a soft civil.

00:57:40.000 And if there's someone that's way if there's someone that's actually shooting or a or even probably menacing people with a gun, which means pointing a gun at someone, and you shot him in another in a state that has m like stand your ground laws or has the you know second amendment friendly, there's a possibility that you could convince a jury.

00:58:01.000 No, he was going to hurt people, and I prevented him.

00:58:04.000 Now that would be that would be dependent on the jury, but there is a possibility that look, here's the situation.

00:58:10.000 He was saying these things, he was yelling these things, he was pointing his gun at people.

00:58:15.000 You know, so I saw that, and I and I figured I needed to take action to defend someone else because he was going.

00:58:22.000 I was in in legitimate fear for my life, and I believe that he was gonna cause permanent harm or death to someone else, so I Acted to prevent to end the threat because there was an ongoing threat.

00:58:34.000 Now you can make that argument, and if you have a good lawyer and you are in front of a jury that's fairly friendly to the second amendment, and you're in a jurisdiction where there are people that are friendly to the second to the second amendment, you might be able to get you might be able to get justifiable homicide.

00:58:50.000 But in a place like New Jersey, in a place like New York, that is not going to happen.

00:58:55.000 You will go to jail.

00:58:56.000 So this is this is actually surprising.

00:58:57.000 My cursory search, which is surprising to me, is that if there is a known foreign terrorist organization individual, ISIS is a great example who is flying the flag and armed and screaming while walking down the street. 0.51

00:59:12.000 You have no legal right to do anything as a citizen against that person, be it stop them, detain them, uh or or or hurt them in any way.

00:59:21.000 They're to be treated according to my cursory search as if they were any other citizen, no matter what.

00:59:27.000 So I'm that sounds like something that needs to be dealt with, but obviously with the First Amendment right.

00:59:32.000 Is it political expression if you if you're waving the flag?

00:59:35.000 Everything that Tim said is true, but it still does depend on the jury.

00:59:40.000 Yeah, well, you'll go you'll get arrested, you'll get charge of the city.

00:59:42.000 Yeah.

00:59:43.000 Most places you're gonna get arrested.

00:59:44.000 I don't think there's very few places where you could get away with shooting someone and you wouldn't even have a lot of people.

00:59:48.000 I'm pretty sure it just has a flag.

00:59:50.000 Well, uh well, let's let's let's clarify what you mean by arrest.

00:59:53.000 Very few, not not none.

00:59:55.000 Uh I I I think you need to clarify what you mean by arrest.

00:59:57.000 The police are going to take you into case.

00:59:59.000 George Jordan's custody is not arrest.

01:00:02.000 Like being detained, you mean.

01:00:04.000 Arrest is probable cause for a crime.

01:00:06.000 You are to you're being taken in to be processed for that for that crime.

01:00:08.000 I still I would still say that there are a few.

01:00:10.000 There are some jurisdictions where you might not.

01:00:12.000 I'm pretty sure uh I can at least speak for West Virginia.

01:00:16.000 Uh I would even get down to it depends on the on the property.

01:00:21.000 Yes, if you're on your property.

01:00:22.000 Yeah.

01:00:23.000 And uh like in Florida with Zimmerman and Trayvon, I don't believe he was arrested.

01:00:27.000 He was brought in for questioning and then released, and that's what caused the controversy.

01:00:30.000 Yeah.

01:00:31.000 I mean, that could be too.

01:00:32.000 Again, I think that it does depend it it depends a lot on the the even down to the locality.

01:00:38.000 Because if you're in an urban area in a place like Virginia, you might not get the same kind of treatment from the the county sheriff or whatever that you would if you were in a more rural area.

01:00:48.000 So do you think it's gonna be a case of perhaps Trump needs to encourage the red states to adopt legislation to facilitate this sort of you know citizens' arrest, you know, potentially if someone's holding around what kind of thing is.

01:00:59.000 This is one of those slippery slopes.

01:01:00.000 It's a slippery slope, right?

01:01:01.000 And also you're talking about this kind of like soft secession if you've got you know a de facto situation in blue states where these guys can walk around unattested and actually not just that but can continue to grow.

01:01:10.000 It wouldn't be Trump influence.

01:01:11.000 It wouldn't be Trump.

01:01:12.000 It would have to be something from that Congress passes to have the force of law.

01:01:16.000 And I don't know if that would stand because places like New York or New Jersey or or Illinois, they would fight that under Tenth Amendment grounds.

01:01:27.000 They would say we we have the state's right to do that.

01:01:31.000 I I I think as we discuss this and go through the math of everything we're we're looking at, the real underlying thing that everyone is just saying is we're in a civil war.

01:01:41.000 I I think that it's across the West, there is an ideological war.

01:01:45.000 I think that it is it's less of like a civil war, like you guys are here, you guys are there.

01:01:50.000 I mean it is more of a years of led type scenario.

01:01:52.000 But that's that that that that idea of you guys are here and we're there has never been a civil war ever.

01:01:56.000 Well, I mean, the the the American Civil War.

01:01:58.000 I mean, but the line and a track one place out of the Spanish civil war as well.

01:02:03.000 But the American Civil War is the is not a civil war.

01:02:07.000 Okay, well, semantic difference.

01:02:09.000 But it but so most people would understand the civil war is gonna be something like the American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War.

01:02:15.000 But what was it?

01:02:15.000 What was the Spanish Civil War then?

01:02:17.000 It was an i i ideological war.

01:02:18.000 Right.

01:02:18.000 But no, like they there were they were factions fighting, and there was no here and there.

01:02:22.000 It was uh Franco from Morocco went up to the south of Spain, rallied uh uh uh hit troops to fight against other military, seized control of military assets, and then you saw certain areas that were leaning in one direction nationalist or republican, and the fighting was actually all over the country until militarized force were able to secure certain areas and then push out the far left.

01:02:43.000 Yeah, but I mean even if you look at the Syrian Civil War, you can look at the live map.

01:02:46.000 There was a front line, right?

01:02:47.000 Same with the Spanish Civil War, right?

01:02:49.000 Like there are the Spanish Civil War.

01:02:51.000 This city is ours.

01:02:52.000 Yes, there might be some insurgencies within those cities, but that was like, okay, they've got their military units there, they've got their trucks.

01:02:57.000 Right, but it was spotted all over.

01:02:59.000 Well, I mean, it wasn't a big thing.

01:03:00.000 The Spanish Civil War was blotches. 0.55

01:03:02.000 There were there there are front lines.

01:03:04.000 Yeah.

01:03:05.000 So the the American Civil War was actually a union fractured, a new union formed, and then the union, proper noun, uh huh, sent troops down to force the the separate union.

01:03:19.000 So that that's very different from any other civil war ever throughout history.

01:03:23.000 What the US uh the United States Civil War, they call it, is more akin to a standard war in Europe or something.

01:03:29.000 It is it is more akin to a conventional war by two countries.

01:03:33.000 That that's it, that's effectively what the American Civil War was.

01:03:35.000 Well, I mean, the like the Spanish Civil War did have front lines.

01:03:38.000 This city, this road, these trains were under our control on the other.

01:03:41.000 When you look at the Spanish. 1.00

01:03:42.000 There was still a differentiation whether you're under the nationalists.

01:03:45.000 That's correct, because the Spanish Civil War was not a you're there and we're here.

01:03:50.000 It was this city is controlled by the Republicans, this farmland and this ruler is by the nationalists.

01:03:54.000 Down south, there's a pocket where we control in between, but the nationalists have this and the Republicans have this.

01:03:59.000 Yeah, but I mean, in traditional civil wars, control is spread out all over in blotches.

01:04:03.000 I mean, even in the Confederacy, there were unionists within the with who were living within the Confederate borders who are still like aiding the unionist side.

01:04:12.000 Well, like as an insurgency, yes, but like de facto, like who was controlling law and the government.

01:04:15.000 I'm just trying to clarify because the point I'm making is the United States Civil War is not a civil war by most historical standards.

01:04:22.000 The fact that there was a North and South dividing line, a Mason Dixon line is solely unique to the American Civil War.

01:04:29.000 Other civil wars throughout history had split control in various regions.

01:04:33.000 Not a north and a south.

01:04:35.000 There's northeastern, western, like when you look at the Spanish Civil War map and you watch how the militaries moved through areas, there were pockets over here that was nationalist, nationalist, nationalist.

01:04:44.000 The nationalists was largely like rural areas, the Republicans were largely urban areas, and they were split up all over the place.

01:04:49.000 Initially, but then they did become, they did consolidate forces after initial period.

01:04:53.000 Franco and his troops started crushing the left and moving through, they gained more control.

01:04:58.000 Yeah.

01:04:58.000 But the the American Civil War started as something entirely different with a literal line between two unions.

01:05:04.000 In fact, Texas, uh, one of the reasons for Texas secession to join the Confederacy was simple proximity.

01:05:10.000 The what when Texas voted to join the South the Confederacy, it was simply we have no trade partners.

01:05:15.000 So uh I guess this is who we're with.

01:05:17.000 It wasn't it wasn't like people in Texas were like, rah, we hate the Union.

01:05:21.000 It was like, well, look, for all intents and purposes, we are part of the Confederacy.

01:05:24.000 In Maryland, they actually were uh one third sympathetic to the South.

01:05:28.000 So it wasn't it and and it's still a very important thing.

01:05:31.000 But I mean that there was still what I was trying to get is there were still geographical states and regions which were considered, you know, under the control of uh of those governments or forces, right?

01:05:38.000 And that's true today, right now in the United States.

01:05:40.000 In the U.S., well, yes, I'm no like I don't think that like the the governor, like like Gavin Newsom, for example, is going to come out on the complete side of like he he denounced the murder of uh uh of Charlie Cook.

01:05:50.000 Like he's not on the same parallel as the sort of people that Trump's sort of fighting here.

01:05:54.000 I don't think like they might share the same ideological realm, but do I think Gavin Newsom is involved on grassroots level anti for, you know, guys going in and assassinating politicians?

01:06:03.000 No.

01:06:03.000 I think it they they they share the same ideological space, so as a result, they they don't they don't even want to give an inch of ground because if they give an inch of ground against the left, then who then flood against the left.

01:06:13.000 Then that's a good distinction to determine when we're actually in a civil war is when you actually have a policy from a state defy the jurisdiction of the federal government and say we will not abide by your rules.

01:06:28.000 Which I guess your argument is gonna be with like the sanctuary city stuff.

01:06:31.000 Well, I guess never mind, that's probably not a good distinction because that literally is what all of them are doing.

01:06:35.000 So uh if if it's not okay.

01:06:39.000 I mean, complete honest question here.

01:06:42.000 We have political assassinations, we've got California allowing far leftists to firebomb and attack federal law enforcement with impunity.

01:06:49.000 Uh in the Pacific Northwest, they do the same thing.

01:06:51.000 Portland uh local law enforcement isn't stopping these guys.

01:06:54.000 They've let them do it for now three months, I think it's been going on uh in Portland, and uh the feds are trying to stop it.

01:07:01.000 It's not to the point where Gavin Newsom says go and arrest those federal agents, but Gavin Newsom just ordered federal agents to take their masks off.

01:07:11.000 So the the question then is we're looking at this gradient to try and figure out when it is technically a civil war, but I can say this.

01:07:19.000 We are in a period of assassinations where the mainstream political faction of the left celebrates it.

01:07:26.000 Uh, or they lie about it, or they defend it.

01:07:29.000 The ideology That motivated the assassin is espoused on the floor of our own congressional house by the most famous Democrat, in my opinion, AOC.

01:07:37.000 You can make arguments about any of the other Democrats, but they've largely waned.

01:07:40.000 And as pertains to law enforcement, the California government is letting far leftists organize and firebomb federal uh facilities.

01:07:49.000 It's California, Oregon and Washington have been doing this for years.

01:07:52.000 Newsom tried to commandeer control of the National Guard away from Donald Trump and has now ordered federal law enforcement to abide by his rules and take their masks off.

01:08:03.000 Okay, so it's not a civil war.

01:08:05.000 An insurrection, perhaps?

01:08:10.000 Civil unrest unrest.

01:08:11.000 Yeah.

01:08:11.000 Still going.

01:08:12.000 You know, it's it's what we've been calling we've been calling it civil unrest for, you know, but I'm I'm asking like when is the when is the when does it become a heap of sand?

01:08:20.000 If Gavin Newsom, he just came out and said he what where they passed the law, right?

01:08:24.000 Mandating authority over federal law enforcement, which they don't have the authority to do, and they're threatening federal law enforcement with arrest.

01:08:31.000 So it's it's all about Trump Trump's response, right?

01:08:34.000 Trump would have a I imagine I'm not as well versed in American politics as you guys, but he would have somewhat of a mandate to go, okay.

01:08:40.000 Well, this state is acting in in rebellion of the union.

01:08:43.000 I'm sure there's some sort of legal prerequisites where where he could potentially justify federalizing it, whatever, whatever whatever it may be.

01:08:52.000 But I'm sure there's still a huge amount of legal frameworks to go through to try and resolve it before it gets to a point of actually there is no discussion.

01:08:58.000 It's like we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that, and we're an impasse.

01:09:01.000 Let's pull this up.

01:09:02.000 We got the story from CNN.

01:09:03.000 It's from a couple days ago.

01:09:04.000 California bans most law enforcement officers from wearing masks during operations.

01:09:08.000 California became the first state to ban most law enforcement officers, including federal immigration agents from covering their faces while conducting official business under a bill that was signed Saturday by Governor Gavin Newsom and swiftly denounced by Trump administration officials.

01:09:20.000 The ban is a direct response to recent immigration raids in LA, where federal agents wore masks while making mass arrests.

01:09:25.000 The raids prompt in days of protest and led Trump to deploy National Guard troops and Marines.

01:09:29.000 Okay, so here's the question.

01:09:32.000 Law enforcement being dispatched to California is now being uh it is forbidden for them to wear masks while in conducting federal law enforcement.

01:09:42.000 Do you believe the government of California will enforce this law against federal law enforcement?

01:09:48.000 I I I don't see that happening.

01:09:50.000 I don't think they have to be.

01:09:54.000 I mean, like we saw in the 60s something somewhat similar in the civil rights era where the feds crack down on states for not you know not playing ball, and then the federal government won.

01:10:04.000 That's vice versa.

01:10:05.000 Feds feds uh cracking down on on states.

01:10:08.000 This is trying a state trying to crack down on feds.

01:10:09.000 So this is a very important thing.

01:10:10.000 That's a no from Raymond.

01:10:12.000 Yes, sir.

01:10:12.000 What do you think, Phil?

01:10:13.000 What will you think Gavin Newsom left state troopers go and arrest ICE for wearing masks?

01:10:19.000 I don't think he will.

01:10:21.000 Um I think that he'll posture.

01:10:24.000 I think that he'll posture and and I but I don't think that it'll actually dispatch uh I think that's the line.

01:10:31.000 Yeah, it's a big percent.

01:10:32.000 If if Gavin Newsom arrests federal law enforcement, we are in new territory.

01:10:39.000 That's a hundred percent the line, yeah.

01:10:41.000 I think the the the the struggle we have with the concept of civil war is no one knows when you're in a civil war.

01:10:47.000 Throughout history, every single civil war that they have always argued and debated whether or not they were actually in a conflict.

01:10:52.000 And as we bring up famously, we historically look back at Fort Sumter as the beginning of the American Civil War, but the people who lived in the country at the time didn't even think we were in one and went and picnicked at the first battle of Bull Run.

01:11:05.000 Because they didn't think a civil war was happening.

01:11:07.000 And then the Confederates won, routed the North, sent them packing, and then thought the war ended.

01:11:12.000 They said, that's it, no war.

01:11:14.000 We've just shown them.

01:11:15.000 And then Lincoln was like, nah.

01:11:18.000 Send in the troops.

01:11:19.000 And then four other states were like, oh my God, this is getting crazy.

01:11:23.000 What's going on?

01:11:24.000 Took a long time.

01:11:26.000 The uh first seven states to secede from the union happened before Abraham Lincoln was even president.

01:11:31.000 Several months.

01:11:32.000 So I don't know that we'll actually know until we're well into it.

01:11:36.000 In fact, I believe they called it uh what do they call it?

01:11:40.000 First it was like a rebellion in the South.

01:11:41.000 Then it was called a conflict between states, and then I think it was like a year later or a year or two, they started calling it the Civil War.

01:11:48.000 Right in the United States.

01:11:49.000 I mean, it is reasonable to say that it's possible, like right now, like looking back, you know, they'll say that now was the beginning of it, that the assassinations, that the the first shots that were fired were actually people assassinating other people and taking shots at law enforcement and stuff like that.

01:12:05.000 I mean, even though it's a good thing.

01:12:06.000 Well, take a take a look at this on phone.

01:12:08.000 Who wants to read that headline?

01:12:09.000 Uh Charlie Kirk's murder could become another Fort Sumter.

01:12:12.000 You know, the fact that this is something that the respectable journalists are talking about now, the Hill, um, which is absolutely legacy media.

01:12:22.000 Um to call this, you know, far fetched now now, with all these all of these attacks on ICE facilities with the attempts on Trump with the murder.

01:12:30.000 This is no longer far fetched.

01:12:32.000 This is no longer the the stuff of a can I can I can I can I cash out like a 50 leg parlay or something on this one?

01:12:39.000 I'm going back seven years on this boys.

01:12:41.000 I mean, I'm I'm gonna play a bit of devil's advocate here.

01:12:42.000 I think that a lot of these legacy media are coming out with these very sensationalist headlines because they are losing to independent media and they can't keep up.

01:12:49.000 The people aren't interested in clicking some like really kind of like boring white bread uh sort of headlines anymore.

01:12:54.000 Like everybody's so sort of brain rotted from the scrolling, everything's sensationalized, will ball three every other week that they kind of have been pushed towards this more radical discourse.

01:13:03.000 But the the the the knock on effects of reading stuff like that, it are very real.

01:13:07.000 It's right, it does put it in people's heads.

01:13:08.000 It's true, but if there weren't so many people that have died, there weren't so many attacks.

01:13:15.000 There, I mean, like we're there were four ice facilities attacked since August 1st, probably I think actually in the past three weeks.

01:13:22.000 So four are no no no, it's been like it's like with three attacks in three months.

01:13:27.000 I think sure.

01:13:28.000 I googled it last night before when I did the intro, and it was four.

01:13:30.000 I actually I did it on Grok, and it was four attack four ice facilities attacked since August 1st, is what I checked.

01:13:37.000 Um I asked how many how many ice facilities had been attacked.

01:13:40.000 Um so yeah, like whether or not there were people killed, not all of them had casualties, but there were four ice attacks or four ice facilities attacked since August 1st.

01:13:53.000 So in the past two months, like you have Charlie Kirk that was murdered, you have uh Donald Trump that was the assassination attempt that was just over a year ago.

01:14:02.000 Then there was you you can say that the attacks I don't think that the attack, uh the murder of the the Minnesota lawmaker was actually politically motivated, but there are people that'll swear up and down that it was.

01:14:13.000 Um this is this is something that is not ha uh like unusual at this point in time.

01:14:19.000 Like this is something that is is become almost commonplace.

01:14:24.000 Just I mean, people are waking up saying, Hey, am I gonna see am I gonna find out that there was another another you know political murder in the country?

01:14:30.000 Yeah, I mean even like the Epstein stuff with like the lawyers disappearing and like dying and these suicides, I think like that it has become a lot more of a violent political atmosphere in America.

01:14:41.000 Yeah, I mean, there's always become normalized to you almost you're not surprised now.

01:14:45.000 Like if if I sort of know this assassination, I don't think I'm gonna have the same reaction that I did to to Charlie Kirk's.

01:14:49.000 I'm I'm somewhat expectant that seeing the level of praise that it's had from the left that someone is gonna do a copycat attack.

01:14:56.000 Because they're gonna hit that sort of like cult status.

01:14:58.000 So we've got uh half correction.

01:15:01.000 It's actually pretty wild that we can't and don't cover every story because if it doesn't reach it doesn't bubble up, we don't know.

01:15:08.000 Yeah.

01:15:08.000 But on August 29th, a person attempted to run over a C BP agent.

01:15:13.000 Uh we've got the uh an August 25th was bomb threats to a Dallas ICE facility.

01:15:18.000 If you're talking about the ambushes, then it's three in like three months.

01:15:23.000 If you're talking about everything from death threats to riots, it's five.

01:15:28.000 No, no, it's four, it's four.

01:15:30.000 So um, and I guess CPP isn't really count.

01:15:32.000 So it it's three since August 1st, broad, and then violent attacks like rifle long range, those terror attacks, I think it's three and three months.

01:15:41.000 On June 29th, when they got the 20-year-old set the fire and he killed the the fireman.

01:15:46.000 He killed the chief of police and John Morrison.

01:15:48.000 Where was it?

01:15:49.000 Um Clanfield Mountain first Texas, I believe.

01:15:53.000 It was not ice.

01:15:54.000 You guys talked about it.

01:15:55.000 No, no, it's not ice, but I'm saying they set up um ambushes, you know, more bright, more violent.

01:15:59.000 There was the Zizian assassination of the CPP guy earlier this year.

01:16:03.000 Yeah, it's been pretty dang wild.

01:16:04.000 So we're we're definitely in bleeding Kansas.

01:16:06.000 Isn't it kind of funny to say, like, hey guys, bleeding Kansas confirmed?

01:16:10.000 Uh yesterday on the Will Kane show, they opened by calling this bloody September.

01:16:14.000 I think Jack Pasobic was the first person I saw who who called it bloody September.

01:16:18.000 And uh I agree.

01:16:20.000 The reason why we say bloody September is it uh it condenses all of the ideas of the attacks into a single phrase, which can invoke that knowledge.

01:16:29.000 That's so it's it's a zip file for memory.

01:16:31.000 That's why we give things names.

01:16:33.000 Do you think that like the economic fallout of something like this escalating though is gonna be far too great?

01:16:37.000 I mean, the thing that people care about the most is ultimately do I have a good standard of living?

01:16:41.000 If there is a you you think that like he just have that sort of political climate, because I mean when you look at There's no kids.

01:16:47.000 There's no kids.

01:16:48.000 The uh gen alpha is half the size of Millennial and Gen Z. That's that's the problem.

01:16:54.000 Uh but is up, but it's all is on the conservative side though, because I I've never seen this many young families of like guys in their twenties married, kids highly Christian.

01:17:03.000 But even even with that trend among Gen Cen Alpha is 40 million.

01:17:08.000 Estimates from 40 to 42 million.

01:17:10.000 That is half the size of uh of uh millennials and and gen, I think they're calling it gen Bravo because nobody likes beta is is just starting now.

01:17:19.000 Meaning our economy is fried no matter what we do.

01:17:23.000 When you and and you now have a large cohort of young, single, childless men.

01:17:30.000 On which side though?

01:17:31.000 On both sides.

01:17:33.000 Now it's less less likely, I think a third of Gen Z men are leaning right, but either way. 0.95

01:17:38.000 For like Gen Z men largely are not having relationships and having kids. 0.98

01:17:42.000 Um look, I was supposed to have a kid in my twenties.

01:17:46.000 That's that's human standard.

01:17:47.000 That's what all humans have.

01:17:48.000 But I turned how old was I 22 or 23 when the financial crisis happened?

01:17:52.000 So sleeping on couches, I didn't even realize at the time something was wrong.

01:17:58.000 I I lived with like nine dudes, a bunch of college-age dudes in this massive loft where we all spent a couple hundred dollars because it was cheap.

01:18:05.000 And it was like six bedrooms, and uh I was in the pantry.

01:18:08.000 Pantry was nice.

01:18:10.000 A door to the kitchen and a door to the living room.

01:18:12.000 And it was, I think probably six by eight.

01:18:16.000 No, no, no, no, it was probably eight by ten.

01:18:19.000 Not bad.

01:18:20.000 A huge pantry.

01:18:21.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:18:22.000 Walk in, two side two doors, put some curtains up.

01:18:24.000 It's pretty cool.

01:18:25.000 We have parties.

01:18:26.000 I would put shelves at the doors and I'd uh sell booze.

01:18:31.000 But anyway, I was supposed to be uh working a job and having a family, but that was impossible.

01:18:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:36.000 And so even right now, Gen Z guys aren't aren't doing this.

01:18:40.000 Uh Roger Lynch talked about this.

01:18:42.000 I don't know, you you were talking to him earlier.

01:18:43.000 I don't know if you brought it up, but historically, whenever you get a large population of young men without children, you get war.

01:18:49.000 Yeah.

01:18:50.000 Yeah.

01:18:50.000 That's true.

01:18:51.000 And then AI is gonna take away all their jobs here in ten years, five years.

01:18:54.000 They cooked.

01:18:55.000 Yeah.

01:18:56.000 We cooked.

01:18:57.000 Yeah, the one saving the one saving grace is that young it's not a saving grace, it's actually a very sad thing.

01:19:02.000 But young men's like hormones are completely nuked.

01:19:05.000 So a lot of them don't even have the testosterone required to like sign up for like a f like a full-blown civil war, you're just gonna get insurgents from the left.

01:19:12.000 That's all you're gonna get.

01:19:13.000 The right wing guys are actually like a big thing.

01:19:15.000 The one thing that I'm really surprised that well, the one thing that I think we should expect as things escalate would be like more bombings, because that was something that was really common in the in the 70s, in the early 70s, late 60s, the weathermen and stuff, they there were over a thousand bombings in between nineteen seventy and nineteen seventy-two.

01:19:39.000 Wow.

01:19:39.000 And that that's something that hasn't taken, you know, you haven't seen a lot of uh, thankfully.

01:19:44.000 Um but as thing as tensions rise and you have f people that aren't as suicidal looking to to harm um you know their political opponents, that's the kind of thing that I think we we need to be concerned with as like the next level.

01:20:00.000 If if the if that does start becoming something that's common, then you know that I feel like that's the the next escalation or would be looked at as the next excellent.

01:20:08.000 The reason we're not seeing it is there's three reasons.

01:20:10.000 The first is it requires coordination to some degree.

01:20:12.000 I know there's obviously lone wolves over the years, but it requires a degree of coordination with others.

01:20:17.000 Two is people are like not smart enough to assemble these.

01:20:20.000 I mean, I know you can like follow directions online and stuff, but there's actually a lot of stories of people blowing them up in their house and chat GPT.

01:20:26.000 I know that, but I'm saying people like are blowing themselves in houses.

01:20:29.000 Like if you look it up, it happens somewhat frequently.

01:20:32.000 And then the third is that the government's actually done a pretty good job of making it difficult to collect the materials you would need to put together a body.

01:20:38.000 Yeah, that's one thing that I think is is a good point.

01:20:40.000 The the the base materials to do this stuff, like the government is actually watching for people that purchase certain things in order or whatever.

01:20:50.000 So that might be why.

01:20:52.000 The fourth would be uh to your points would be and the Phil's point um that they are more suicidal, unfortunately nowadays than they were back in the day.

01:21:00.000 Back in the 60s or 70s, 70s, you were saying they probably had more reasons to live, but nowadays they're sitting in their house all by themselves in the bedrooms on 4chan and Reddit, and you know, they know their uh mental health is way worse.

01:21:11.000 It's a bit grim, but someone made an important it's just an important distinction, is typically a shooter is planning on not making it out of the operation versus a bomber, they're planning to go on the run, and there's gonna be a manhunt to find them.

01:21:22.000 So that's the kind of the distinction is you're dealing with a death cult and ultimately they just want to get out of this world, they feel nothing inside versus a bomber.

01:21:28.000 There's like an ideology, like you think something's something's important enough to maybe try and do it again.

01:21:33.000 It's like uh um uh a bushnel you're talking about earlier to uh today.

01:21:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:21:38.000 Oh, he's gonna be remembered forever.

01:21:39.000 I'm gonna, you know, myself on fire.

01:21:41.000 Nobody's there.

01:21:42.000 It's an important point.

01:21:43.000 The only the only the only thing on the left, the only thing they value from young white men is like martyrdom. 0.65

01:21:49.000 As like the only thing you can provide for the left if you're like a young white guy, is like suicide for the cause versus the right, they're just like, Yeah, we can use you here, we can use you here.

01:21:58.000 Turning point USA, we'll get you right in here. 0.56

01:22:00.000 It's like clockwork. 1.00

01:22:00.000 The left's like, you're gonna have to kill yourself, dude. 1.00

01:22:02.000 It's the only way to contribute to the movement. 0.90

01:22:04.000 And so that's why primarily why it's so big uh when they join.

01:22:07.000 I'm compiling a list of politically motivated attacks 2025, and it's already the list that I've got is insane.

01:22:15.000 Jeez.

01:22:15.000 This is bleeding, Kansas.

01:22:17.000 Uh the crazy thing is, as we were mentioning, like did you guys even know that in Maine someone tried running over a C BP agent?

01:22:23.000 In Chicago, an illegal immigrant tried running over a uh a uh one one of the ice guys, so he shot him and killed him.

01:22:29.000 I think that happened in Florida like a day later.

01:22:31.000 So all of these are happening on top of uh the political violence that's high level.

01:22:37.000 Then you've got the low-level riot stuff that often doesn't break to national news.

01:22:41.000 You've got the ongoing riots that are happening in Portland that they just started arresting these people, it's been sustained for some time.

01:22:49.000 Uh you had the ramming in uh New Orleans.

01:22:52.000 Yep.

01:22:52.000 Yes, that's right.

01:22:53.000 That was uh on New Year's right or right around New Year's.

01:22:56.000 Yeah, and you know, we were gonna go.

01:22:57.000 January 4.

01:22:58.000 That's where we were playing my wife and I were planning on going to New Orleans.

01:23:01.000 And at the last minute, we changed our mind and didn't go.

01:23:05.000 And then we saw the news and we were like, we would literally be right there.

01:23:09.000 And didn't that one uh young kid get run over uh by that old man up in Washington or something in an alleyway because he was a Republican a couple of years ago.

01:23:16.000 I think we washed remember that he got ran over for being a um not.

01:23:20.000 I don't know if it was Washington, but there was a kid that got yeah, yeah.

01:23:23.000 I think I think the the distinction though is like as you were saying before, it's they're not organized.

01:23:27.000 There's they seem to be emotional outbursts, which I mean I had myself in the UK where we were putting up the flags, and some guy literally just some boomer left abandoned his car on the side of the road, came running over and tried pushing us off a ladder that was like you know two to almost three stories high.

01:23:41.000 Luckily, we we spotted him and we were able to bail to the right, which was a grass verge rather than the left, which was a main road.

01:23:46.000 But if he'd have come up from behind, I don't know.

01:23:47.000 What was his plan?

01:23:48.000 He was gonna knock us off.

01:23:49.000 If we hit a head on the road, one of us could have died.

01:23:52.000 He wasn't thinking, it was an irrational emotional moment.

01:23:54.000 I almost felt sorry for the guy because he got himself so wound up, he's clearly so like stuck in his head and sort of enthralled by this ideology that he feels like it's worth to just like kind of crash out and break that mundaneness of his life up.

01:24:05.000 Uh they they do see themselves as these revolutionaries, particularly that sort of like boomer generation, which I saw the guy who um tried assassinate in Trump.

01:24:12.000 I think he was actually he did he get indicted uh or like uh charged to uh Roth, yeah.

01:24:16.000 The Roth, yeah, he got uh counts or something like that.

01:24:18.000 It's like they grew up in like the 70s where like you know, they were the counterculture, that hippie culture.

01:24:23.000 They believed the world was gonna be John Lennon's imagination.

01:24:25.000 It's just like, well, you know, reality check, that it doesn't work.

01:24:29.000 Um the world's never gonna be like that.

01:24:30.000 But in their head, there's still this like they're sticking it to the man.

01:24:34.000 We're actually like the counterculture is coming from the right, particularly in Europe, and I it kind of has happened now, it's become the mainstream.

01:24:39.000 Um, but but again, going back to my previous point, it's not sad, organized.

01:24:44.000 It's like, yeah, it's just like it is yeah, it is this lone wolf, like sad attacks of people who are probably pretty depraved individuals who actually just need help.

01:24:53.000 Yeah, uh, but how how do you get help to those people?

01:24:55.000 Because they sit and they fest them and it's all online.

01:24:57.000 They need help, but they nihilism, which is petrified.

01:24:59.000 Yeah, they're they need help, but they have to be open to help.

01:25:02.000 Which is they don't believe they need help.

01:25:04.000 That's the problem.

01:25:05.000 They well, I mean, yeah, they they're not open to being helped.

01:25:08.000 So if if someone's not going to look, you can you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink, right?

01:25:13.000 You can tell people, look, here's here, this will actually make you feel better.

01:25:17.000 This is actually these are positive steps that you can do to not feel hopeless, to not feel like there's no uh there's no meaning in life, but that doesn't mean they're gonna do it.

01:25:27.000 It doesn't mean they're gonna take the steps that you're that you're that you're recommending.

01:25:31.000 And it's likely that they're gonna be hostile to you for recommending it.

01:25:34.000 Well, I'm saying like the left is already fairly organized, but they're not organized in a violent way, uh as far as we know right now.

01:25:39.000 Unless I mean this we'll see what comes of this Charlie Kurt case.

01:25:42.000 Perhaps it was.

01:25:43.000 I know we saw people who allegedly had full knowledge.

01:25:45.000 Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't.

01:25:46.000 We'll we'll see.

01:25:47.000 That that would be if it is organized, that would kind of change the game a little bit.

01:25:50.000 So this is the list that GPT gave me.

01:25:54.000 The New Orleans ISIS attack, the uh Coventry, Vermont C BP agent killed by Zizians. 1.00

01:25:59.000 In May, a Jewish museum shooting from a uh uh pro-Palestine motive.

01:26:03.000 Uh June 14th, the coordinated shooting of Democratic state legislators.

01:26:07.000 That one's up in the air because that one may have been personally motivated.

01:26:10.000 We don't know for sure.

01:26:11.000 Uh Alvarado was the Prairie Land Ice Facility ambush the same day.

01:26:14.000 Portland, Oregon, was attacking an ICE facility.

01:26:17.000 Uh July 20th in New York, midtown Manhattan mass shooting at 350.

01:26:21.000 Was that really?

01:26:22.000 When was that?

01:26:23.000 Which what was that Trente Aragua?

01:26:26.000 That search Google search.

01:26:27.000 Google that.

01:26:28.000 You say Manhattan?

01:26:29.000 Yeah, July 28th, midtown Manhattan mass shooting.

01:26:32.000 August 27th was the Annunciation shooting.

01:26:35.000 July 28th.

01:26:36.000 That was the dude that ran into the went up to the uh the 33rd floor or whatever.

01:26:40.000 Oh the city.

01:26:41.000 Oh, right, right, right, right.

01:26:42.000 The NFL thing.

01:26:43.000 Yeah, allegedly, yeah.

01:26:44.000 Yeah, the NFL thing.

01:26:45.000 But that was also a black rock building.

01:26:47.000 And he went to a black rock office.

01:26:48.000 Oops.

01:26:49.000 Yeah, right.

01:26:49.000 I don't believe it.

01:26:50.000 Uh August 27th was Annunciation.

01:26:53.000 Orim, Utah, September 10th.

01:26:54.000 That's Charlie Kirk.

01:26:55.000 September 15th, political canvaser was stabbed.

01:26:58.000 Whoa, I didn't know that.

01:27:00.000 September 19th was the ABC station.

01:27:02.000 Whoa, really?

01:27:04.000 I didn't know about the September 15th attack.

01:27:07.000 And they're and they're still missing a whole bunch.

01:27:09.000 How how many still thought of curiosity included more than one perpetrator, though?

01:27:14.000 Uh I don't know.

01:27:15.000 The the the challenging thing is one of the attacks on the on an ice facility was like five people.

01:27:20.000 It was the the the it was Black Rock office that was attacked, right? 0.96

01:27:23.000 I forgot about that one.

01:27:24.000 That was in midtown New York, yeah.

01:27:26.000 Right.

01:27:26.000 And they said it was the NFL, but it was he was he he was in the Black Rock office, and they're like, he meant to go to the NFL, I swear.

01:27:30.000 Mike, I don't I don't know that I believe that.

01:27:33.000 Uh what's the uh what's the obvious?

01:27:36.000 So they they are missing one of the the uh ice facility attacks.

01:27:41.000 This is the cyber truck thing as well.

01:27:43.000 That wasn't too oh yeah, they're forgetting all the Tesla stuff.

01:27:46.000 Where's all the Tesla stuff?

01:27:49.000 I mean, just a lot going on this year.

01:27:51.000 We we need to get a comprehensive list of all of the terror attacks for this year, so we can have this in a in like a a a Google document database to s to actually start tracking this.

01:28:01.000 Because this year's been insane.

01:28:03.000 The terror attacks on Tesla.

01:28:05.000 What was there?

01:28:06.000 Like 70 of them?

01:28:07.000 And the one guy that blew himself up?

01:28:08.000 Yeah.

01:28:09.000 Supportedly, you know, the um the guy, the the military guy who was like locked and cocked right in the room.

01:28:16.000 Oh, right, right, right at the last minute.

01:28:18.000 Yeah.

01:28:19.000 It was in lost.

01:28:20.000 And the it's all metal, so it didn't blow up anything.

01:28:22.000 It just blew himself up.

01:28:24.000 I mean, what's interesting is that when you ask for these statistics, it's like there's no left-wing violent attacks.

01:28:28.000 Like I I I I see that a lot.

01:28:30.000 I mean, I think there is a certain degree of when things haven't gone fatal, perhaps it's just been an attack on the street.

01:28:35.000 These things either don't go reported or like I I I've seen it by myself at like political rallies in the in the UK that you know a leftist might throw something at some off a rock and it might hit someone that might get hurt, but they don't actually report it to the police because they're like thick skin, and you know, I I want to handle this myself.

01:28:50.000 I'm not gonna I don't trust the police, I'm not gonna file it.

01:28:53.000 So this it'd be interesting to see the the the real numbers uh just behind this sort of low-level violence in the streets.

01:29:00.000 Yeah, you watch like um Nick Shirley's video when he he like tracked the ice raid in Minneapolis and they were like going through the street, and people were like pelting the cops with like just trash and rocks and that sort of thing.

01:29:12.000 But since it was such a chaotic environment and ice was just doing an operation, they're getting in and getting out, there's not like a huge federal police presence.

01:29:18.000 Yeah, they couldn't make arrest.

01:29:19.000 So all those I mean, maybe they followed up on it.

01:29:22.000 I'm sure they did, but at least for what the public knows, all that wasn't counted.

01:29:26.000 It's like if you started counting all of these like just attacks on officers that are taking place during these ice raids that we're seeing being documented, like it would be outstanding the amount of the amount of leftist violence that's been.

01:29:37.000 They cancel woman who pu who punched one of the agents.

01:29:40.000 Yeah, oh yeah she's got in trouble, I forget her name.

01:29:43.000 Um Red Jack.

01:29:44.000 Lamonica McIver.

01:29:44.000 Yeah, yeah, New Jersey.

01:29:46.000 So that's another, you know, like like can we just stress this when we're when when we blame Gavin Newsom for his rhetoric and then the ice terror attack, can we just point out like a Democrat in Congress punched a a federal law enforcement a agent, like literally punched him on camera, I think more than Once.

01:30:00.000 Yeah.

01:30:01.000 So when they're I I'm just, I don't understand.

01:30:03.000 Like, why are we?

01:30:04.000 I'm not even I'm not even I don't even I I'm not talking to these people.

01:30:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:08.000 There's they're coming on, they're being like, no, you understand we are not for this. 0.99

01:30:11.000 Like, shut up. 0.99

01:30:11.000 You elected this woman. 0.99

01:30:12.000 She went and punched the guy, and then you lied and claimed she didn't.

01:30:15.000 You put her on CNN and CNN claims she didn't.

01:30:17.000 And we all watched the video.

01:30:19.000 This is insane.

01:30:20.000 There's literally a slow-mo.

01:30:22.000 Yeah.

01:30:22.000 Like see the punch connect.

01:30:23.000 And I don't know what where that fish came from.

01:30:25.000 Punch is like a girl, by the way. 0.99

01:30:27.000 She does, yeah.

01:30:28.000 I mean, it makes sense.

01:30:30.000 All right.

01:30:31.000 So far.

01:30:34.000 Oh, we had 20.

01:30:35.000 Gotta be close.

01:30:36.000 There's the list is actually really big when you include all of the uh Tesla stuff.

01:30:42.000 So right now, and this is not even this is only like 10 minutes.

01:30:45.000 Uh one, two, three.

01:30:49.000 We got three in January.

01:30:50.000 We got six.

01:30:51.000 March was crazy.

01:30:52.000 Seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three, twenty-four, twenty-five, twenty six oh, okay.

01:31:02.000 No, no, it's twenty-four.

01:31:04.000 Twenty-four just on this list so far.

01:31:08.000 Uh is it more than actually it's more than that.

01:31:13.000 Twenty-six.

01:31:14.000 Just on this list that I have so far is twenty-six, and I know it's missing some because I can think of more that it's not pointing out.

01:31:20.000 But uh, I'm I'm I wanna I want to get this out there.

01:31:22.000 We need to make a comprehensive list because when you go through it, it's all leftist.

01:31:26.000 There's not a single instance that I can find of a Trump supporter going and committing some kind of terror.

01:31:32.000 It's pretty crazy.

01:31:33.000 Well, actually, not really crazy at all, if you think about it.

01:31:36.000 It's all leftists, and it's in line exactly with with like the liberal democratic party.

01:31:41.000 Hey, we have a statement from uh from Comey here.

01:31:43.000 Let's play it.

01:31:44.000 Look at that.

01:31:45.000 Here's there's Comey. 0.96

01:31:47.000 That's it.

01:31:47.000 That's a statement.

01:31:48.000 He's got makeup.

01:31:51.000 My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump.

01:31:57.000 But we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way.

01:32:01.000 We will not live on our knees.

01:32:04.000 And you shouldn't either.

01:32:06.000 Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant, and she's right.

01:32:14.000 But I'm not afraid.

01:32:15.000 And I hope you're not either.

01:32:17.000 I hope instead you are engaged.

01:32:20.000 You are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it.

01:32:27.000 Which it does.

01:32:28.000 He's right.

01:32:29.000 My heart is broken.

01:32:30.000 That last for the Department of Justice.

01:32:32.000 Everything he said so far.

01:32:33.000 But I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent.

01:32:37.000 So let's have a trial and keep the faith.

01:32:42.000 Cut out the I'm innocent and let's have a trial.

01:32:45.000 The whole statement, I could I could I could ascribe that to Trump and everyone would agree with it.

01:32:50.000 Yeah.

01:32:51.000 I mean, the fact that he's blaming it on Trump when it was a grand jury, right?

01:32:56.000 Like this isn't right.

01:32:58.000 This isn't a directive by Donald Trump to say go get that guy.

01:33:01.000 They presented evidence to a grand jury, and the grand jury said, okay, we think that there's enough evidence here to indict.

01:33:08.000 So I mean, look, if he's if he feels comfortable going to trial, then you know, bully for him.

01:33:14.000 But it'll go to trial, and and we'll see what uh an actual jury says.

01:33:16.000 What other options does he have other than kind of letting it go to trial?

01:33:19.000 That's his best, it's the most pragmatic thing.

01:33:21.000 You're not gonna go out and say, I'm not innocent.

01:33:23.000 He's uh he's gonna fight his case.

01:33:25.000 So they were really happy when uh uh the grand juries didn't indict other people.

01:33:30.000 They were like, Yeah, no, didn't he get indicted because they were wrong?

01:33:33.000 Well, he got indicted, like you said, so I'm going on there.

01:33:36.000 You know, uh, I hope everybody goes out and votes like their country depends on it because Comey is right.

01:33:42.000 Um, what Comey did, these people are abject evil.

01:33:46.000 And uh my only fear in all of this is that Trump is not Superman.

01:33:53.000 My fear is that Donald Trump is actually a bit of a hothead, and um, I think he is motivated largely by personal interest, and we need to win.

01:34:03.000 Yes.

01:34:04.000 If people like Comey and his ilk get power once again, they are going to destroy this country.

01:34:10.000 Yep.

01:34:11.000 And that's an understatement.

01:34:12.000 I hope you guys like Brick breaking rocks, because we've seen the way these people talk.

01:34:17.000 We saw what they tried to do.

01:34:18.000 We saw what they literally did.

01:34:20.000 They put Trump's lawyers in jail.

01:34:22.000 They said, if you even try to defend Trump, we will send you to prison.

01:34:27.000 The fact that they went after his his lawyers is should be something that makes people take notice, right?

01:34:35.000 Obviously, the far left are gonna they're gonna say, well, it was the right thing to do no matter what.

01:34:39.000 But the fact that they went after the people that are he that he constitutionally has a right to def a defense and the people that were there to provide that constitutionally protected right, they went after them and indicted them and charged them as co-conspirators.

01:34:55.000 That's beyond the pale.

01:34:56.000 So I don't I don't I mean and if if they're willing to do that to Trump in a very public-facing way, imagine what would go on behind closed doors, right?

01:35:03.000 Like we we see it in the UK, these cases which they're not high profile people, they just you know, guys on the ground, individual activists being pressured in into into a guilty plea of stuff they didn't do, uh, and that their lives are ruined and they're kept in awful condition, sometimes kept in solitary because you know general population is so hostile towards them.

01:35:20.000 We've got a huge like problem with Islamic gangs in the in the in the prisons in the UK. 1.00

01:35:24.000 And if they find out you're a far right racist or whatever they want to call you, you they will kill you. 0.98

01:35:29.000 Like, so so you you know, you're not just going to a normal prison, you're in solitary. 0.97

01:35:33.000 And that that that could be a reality here where the It is.

01:35:37.000 Yeah, with J Sixers especially. 0.98

01:35:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:35:39.000 All right, everybody, we're gonna go to your chats and rumble rants.

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01:35:55.000 Actually, we we all we largely are bigger than Jimmy Kimmel, but to be fair, he does get big hits on YouTube.

01:35:59.000 His Trump monologues get million get like a million to two million sometimes.

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01:36:04.000 So uh rumble.com slash Timcast IRL for the uncensored portion, but for now we're gonna grab your chats.

01:36:10.000 Before you jump to that, there's uh USA today about an hour ago was reporting that NORA had scrambled fighters to intercept Russian planes off of Alaska.

01:36:17.000 Um that happened yesterday too.

01:36:18.000 Yeah, I thought that was just an I thought that was an echo.

01:36:21.000 No, what are they what do they call that in Minority Report?

01:36:24.000 Yeah, I forget what it's called, but yeah, uh I it might have been an echo, but yeah, so they're they're you know there's all this talk about the the I think it's whatever, all of the top generals and their staff coming to Quanaco next on the 30th, and there's also talk of of you know conflict with Russia, Russia's foreign mister Minister Lavr, I think it's foreign minister Lavrov is his name, but he uh he was saying that NATO and the United States are already in a war with Russia.

01:36:54.000 Um, yeah, but this is more just raising the tensions.

01:37:00.000 Oh, they're the the the pizza index is through the roof.

01:37:02.000 Yeah, they're they're yeah, hexeth Heggseth has called in a meeting of like all military personnel, like, let's go, baby.

01:37:09.000 All right, let's go.

01:37:09.000 So maybe the stuff that's going on in the US won't matter.

01:37:11.000 Maybe we'll have to try to P.S. Oopy says DJ T needs to need to do an address over all this violence and division.

01:37:21.000 He needs to come out and just call this what it is.

01:37:22.000 He needs to be he needs to open, transparent, and make it clear that now is a time for choosing.

01:37:28.000 The left is doing all the violence this whole year, and when Trump comes out and says that the left is doing violence, they go, How could you accuse us?

01:37:34.000 You're so divisive. 0.89

01:37:35.000 It's like, well, because you guys are shooting people. 0.97

01:37:38.000 Yeah.

01:37:38.000 And he's and he's been he's been good on the issue, like better than the entire GOP, quite frankly, on the issue.

01:37:44.000 Every time he's had to speak on, he specifically addresses leftist violence.

01:37:48.000 Meanwhile, just find a soundbite from your senator, your congressman.

01:37:51.000 They usually dance around at the road.

01:37:53.000 Get out there and get in people's faces.

01:37:54.000 Would it be beneficial to America if he came out and said, yo, let's just relax, let's chill out a little bit, everyone.

01:37:59.000 Oh, because Trump's the right's already the right is already chilling and relaxing.

01:38:02.000 The left's killing.

01:38:04.000 The right is literally going to Trump being like, please Trump just enforced the law.

01:38:07.000 And then they were like, best we can do is a commemorative coin.

01:38:10.000 If you when I was at the I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

01:38:14.000 That's a bad joke, by the way, because Trump's got these executive orders where he's saying go after Antifa.

01:38:20.000 And I do like the idea of putting Charlie Kirk on a silver dollar set.

01:38:23.000 That'd be sweet.

01:38:23.000 Yeah.

01:38:24.000 But I mean, like when I was at the Charlie Cup Memorial on Sunday, um, speaking to people, all the speeches were like, we didn't burn down anything.

01:38:30.000 Look at the way we responded.

01:38:30.000 We responded in peace.

01:38:31.000 It's like, great.

01:38:32.000 And then people were expecting Trump to come out with something hard hitting, and he he really didn't.

01:38:37.000 But already when I was speaking to before, I'm like, do you think Trump's gonna come out with anything?

01:38:40.000 They're like, no.

01:38:41.000 So that they're already demoralized in in in that sense.

01:38:44.000 And that they don't think JD Vance is even gonna, and these are the the diehard people, these are the people who are gonna come to the events.

01:38:49.000 People flew from all over America to come here.

01:38:51.000 You know, some of them were uh pretty big donors, and even there, like he's he's not doing enough.

01:38:55.000 Trump had a Gettysburg opportunity.

01:38:57.000 Yeah.

01:38:58.000 He could have come out and said Something very much like, you know, 250 years ago or whatever, several men fought against tyranny to birth this great nation, blah blah blah.

01:39:10.000 And then he could have said a young man was, but he kind of just went off the cuff and did his Trump thing.

01:39:14.000 It's like talking about autism, Tylenol.

01:39:16.000 Well, I mean, it's like we're talking about we're discussing civil war, all this sort of thing.

01:39:20.000 It's like the margin is actually kind of thin for Trump speech writers.

01:39:22.000 Like he has to actually be somewhat incisive with what he says because you know, there's a lot of rider dies.

01:39:28.000 So Finn Zup says it's not rumors, I'm pretty certain he publicly announced he's gonna have the DOJ looking at Soros.

01:39:33.000 I do not trust Bondi at all, though. 0.99

01:39:35.000 She seems easily bought, or she's just noticeably dumb. 0.99

01:39:38.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:39:38.000 Maybe that's why Trump likes her because he bought her and she's dumb. 1.00

01:39:41.000 So he's like doing she goes, okay. 1.00

01:39:43.000 I don't think so, though.

01:39:44.000 I think I think I think they know what she's doing.

01:39:46.000 Mike Davis actually was tweeting about that. 0.97

01:39:48.000 He's like, She's got more balls than all of the guys in DC combined. 0.97

01:39:52.000 And Mike Davis is I mean, I feel like he's a pretty straight shooter. 0.96

01:39:56.000 And like at the at the end of the day, this is just an upgrade because they listen to Trump.

01:40:00.000 I mean, is I mean you're new around here?

01:40:02.000 We remember the first term how that went.

01:40:03.000 It's like, these people listen to Trump, and then do you really want to go through another nomination process just to get someone that's gonna be just as effective or whatever you think should happen.

01:40:11.000 Leatherhead says, Did anyone else see Alex Jones's channel is already deleted in YouTube?

01:40:15.000 Indeed, as well as Nick Fuentes's, and then YouTube issued a statement saying, Wait, wait, we said we were gonna unban people, but not yet.

01:40:24.000 And so uh what are they winning?

01:40:26.000 I think they're actually lying and sent that letter to Jim Jordan just so that he would shut up and he posts it, and they're like, uh Oops.

01:40:37.000 All right.

01:40:38.000 St. Miles says Trump will have set the precedent to go after Democrats should they ever come into power.

01:40:44.000 Yep.

01:40:45.000 Yeah, that makes a good point.

01:40:47.000 All right.

01:40:47.000 Fin Zup says the difference is you have money to protect yourself and your family.

01:40:51.000 ICE agents don't have that same luxury off the clock, they're on their own, on the clock, their family isn't safe.

01:40:56.000 That's a great point.

01:40:57.000 How much money do you want in exchange for someone threatening to murder your wife and child and and and hunt you down and flay you alive?

01:41:03.000 Uh how much money? 0.98

01:41:05.000 You you you give me that number, I will give it to you and I will quit right now.

01:41:10.000 You let me know, and then we we can have you guys like this is this is this is this is insane.

01:41:14.000 The idea that there's any amount of money that anyone would accept to to take these death threats is just I you know what?

01:41:22.000 Maybe y'all are right, because it seems to be the general opinion that everybody has.

01:41:26.000 The money is worth it to have to live in a box. 0.99

01:41:29.000 They've been saying this uh stupid argument for years and makes zero sense. 1.00

01:41:33.000 Max says, Tim, you're wrong, these guys aren't like you. 1.00

01:41:35.000 They can't afford 24-7 security like you can to protect their family.

01:41:39.000 Uh okay.

01:41:41.000 My 247 security is myself.

01:41:44.000 Let's let's let's try this.

01:41:46.000 Uh I will give someone one million dollars, it will make it a game show, and then we have the entirety of the left.

01:41:56.000 You'll there will be, you know, I don't know, 3,000 people online in any given day saying they're coming for you to kill you and posting your address, going on shows, lying about you, and your goal is to figure out how to use that.

01:42:09.000 Oh, guess what?

01:42:09.000 All that money, it's going toward your torture security.

01:42:12.000 Your movement is restricted, you can't travel, you can't go to funerals, but it's okay because you know, you have the money, I guess.

01:42:18.000 Was the money worth it?

01:42:20.000 I'm pretty sure that if you go to the average person and say we're gonna give you a million dollars, but you'll be hunted down and everyone will be trying to kill you.

01:42:25.000 They're probably gonna be like, No, I don't I don't know that I want that.

01:42:28.000 I don't I don't I don't know.

01:42:30.000 Some people might say yes, and then immediately be like the sort of Damacles was too great, and I've I regret my decision. 0.94

01:42:35.000 But I am seeing a lot of this, and I will make this wager with all of you.

01:42:39.000 I will donate all of my money to charity and quit tonight.

01:42:44.000 If that's genuinely how everyone feels, because I got to tell you, I am perfectly happy living in a bungalow.

01:42:51.000 I say van down by the river, not say a bungalow down by the river.

01:42:53.000 I don't need that much money.

01:42:55.000 I can pay a couple grand mortgage and I can easily do behind the scenes social media marketing work for, I don't know, 90,000 a year somewhere and be perfectly happy playing online poker or something.

01:43:07.000 You shouldn't let the uh chat decide because the chat is full of trolls.

01:43:11.000 These aren't people trolling.

01:43:12.000 These are these are routine super chatters saying that I should accept that because I have money, I should have to live under the threat of death from the far left on a regular basis.

01:43:21.000 When I would much prefer not to have that as a at that risk at all.

01:43:24.000 And I'm being told that our own law enforcement who chose to go into direct conflict with terrorists, should be afforded More more protections than I. Or or maybe that's not a fair assessment, but that I should accept the circumstances and the money that comes along with it will pay for the security while I'm restricted from.

01:43:42.000 Man, when I when I was working for like when I was working for some of these other companies, like Vice, for instance, and I got to fly, I was on a flight twice a week and 60,000 followers or whatever, getting paid six figures.

01:43:57.000 I didn't have anything to worry about.

01:43:59.000 I don't think people understand that.

01:44:01.000 But Charlie Kirk is dead.

01:44:03.000 He died.

01:44:03.000 They killed him.

01:44:05.000 You know?

01:44:06.000 You do it because you love it though, right?

01:44:07.000 Like you do it because you feel like you have a sense of duty to speak about things.

01:44:10.000 And like you know, from the moment you put your face out there, you you know what the political climate's like.

01:44:15.000 You know that somebody's gonna come and target you.

01:44:17.000 Uh and that's something that you have to accept, I think.

01:44:20.000 I think, like, you know, the money and everything aside, and like the the sort of notoriety, whatever.

01:44:26.000 Um, of course, past a certain point, you don't want to exchange your freedom for that and your sort of your your personal safety.

01:44:31.000 But I think you knew coming into the game when you first decided to go and speak out, you were gonna go get some backlash.

01:44:36.000 Nope.

01:44:36.000 Right.

01:44:36.000 You didn't?

01:44:37.000 No.

01:44:38.000 I what when I I went fully.

01:44:39.000 I didn't I didn't I didn't start this as a partisan.

01:44:42.000 Yeah, I know.

01:44:42.000 I mean initially, but when you did kind of cross the Rubicon, so to speak, because I I remember that when I I used to watch you.

01:44:48.000 But but but took that transition, you you must have There was no transition.

01:44:51.000 You must have well, like you weren't explicitly like pro-Trump initially, right?

01:44:55.000 Correct?

01:44:55.000 Like you you you you saw the responses people calling for Trump stuff even prior to his election, you saw the response from the left towards these sort of more conservative pundits, people who were aligned with Trump.

01:45:03.000 You knew that they were vicious.

01:45:04.000 You you you could you you could have four knowledge of it.

01:45:07.000 I went skating at MLK Plaza in Berkeley.

01:45:10.000 Uh-huh.

01:45:10.000 And Antifed posted my picture on forum saying that I was a Trump supporter.

01:45:14.000 Yeah.

01:45:15.000 Whether I was or I wasn't.

01:45:16.000 I didn't go online and make videos saying here's what's going on and here's how the news media works, so that Antifa would post my image and threaten to beat me up, and then a bunch of people threaten to attack me until one guy said, Lay off them and don't start fights at the skate park.

01:45:28.000 But I mean, just being in the public realm in general, people like will like people someone killed John Lennon, right?

01:45:32.000 Like John Lennon, right?

01:45:33.000 But maybe it's not the best example because it's political side, but people will try and like kill celebrities for fame and not variety.

01:45:39.000 They will like being in the public eye, I suppose it does come with a certain level of calculated risk.

01:45:43.000 I I don't think when Charlie Kirk walked out in Oram, he didn't think he was going to die.

01:45:52.000 I think he was fully prepared to.

01:45:53.000 I mean, like they showed at the memorial he said thy will be done to God, thy will be done.

01:45:57.000 It was very religious thing.

01:45:58.000 Right, but he he was willing to die for that.

01:46:00.000 That's why he remained on college campuses despite having this multi-multi-million dollar organization which was able to that's that's kind of a crazy thought if you think about it.

01:46:08.000 Like he was willing to die, and his wife and children were also there as well.

01:46:14.000 In this in this area where he has to have security is a great risk to him and his family for what he was willing to do.

01:46:19.000 Yeah.

01:46:20.000 And that's I wish more people were willing to do that to be clearly honest.

01:46:22.000 Well, I mean, it's incredibly hard thing to do, but those are the people who move civilization on.

01:46:26.000 Like the founding fathers.

01:46:27.000 Everyone has something to lose, right?

01:46:29.000 You you have to go across the Rubicon, you have to be a man of action.

01:46:31.000 You have to accept that I'm gonna do something that is potentially gonna make my life and the people I love's life very, very difficult.

01:46:37.000 But my love for my country, my love for my cause is Far X sees that.

01:46:40.000 I think that that's the position that's like the founding fathers.

01:46:42.000 Yeah, very soon.

01:46:44.000 Who most of them were very young men, actually.

01:46:45.000 The average age of founding fathers is 22, something like that.

01:46:47.000 No, no, no.

01:46:48.000 Oh, no, I signed the declaration.

01:46:50.000 Yeah, it was like late 20s, early 30s, but there Ben Frank was a little older, and then there were some younger guys.

01:46:57.000 But there were the uh some of the founding fathers, their children were ki captured, their one guy's wife was taken from him, one guy's kid betrayed the family and to serve the crown.

01:47:05.000 And uh, you know, there are men in this country who know that they will step into the fray and this will put not only their lives at risk, but their blood, treasure, honor, and family.

01:47:16.000 And that's what the founding fathers were were uh willing to do.

01:47:20.000 I I wish we had more men like that in this country.

01:47:22.000 I think it's it's a very Christian thing.

01:47:24.000 It's a very Christian thing of being able to, you're willing to die, and this what is the whole death to the world thing, it's easier said than done. 1.00

01:47:30.000 But you don't do things that will increase your risk of death.

01:47:33.000 Perhaps you do.

01:47:33.000 I mean, well, that's what St. Paul did.

01:47:35.000 That's what that's what the the apostles did.

01:47:36.000 They they they went out of the way.

01:47:37.000 Even their families 11 of them died.

01:47:39.000 Yeah, put their families at risk.

01:47:40.000 They were persecuted.

01:47:41.000 I know it's a horrible thing.

01:47:42.000 No one, no one you say.

01:47:43.000 No one should ever do anything that's gonna put their their wives and child at risk.

01:47:46.000 Even if they're law enforcement, they should wear masks.

01:47:51.000 Like politics is reserved for them because they don't have any attachments.

01:47:53.000 They sort of like Yes, these guys that are in ICE should wear masks and hide so that their families are not put at risk.

01:47:58.000 Well, yeah, I mean, the otherwise you're not gonna get people to do the job.

01:48:00.000 I mean, Trump is come in on a policy button.

01:48:02.000 Someone's not willing to risk their honor, family, or otherwise.

01:48:06.000 I'm in the UK.

01:48:06.000 I get ads to join ICE every single day.

01:48:09.000 I I I I'm I'm not even able to, because I'm I'm not I'm not a resident here.

01:48:12.000 But they they clearly don't have enough manpower, right?

01:48:15.000 To do this and already drop that manpower.

01:48:16.000 And the fact that a lot of the reason that the deportations are aren't going as as high as they hoped is I think it's a manpower issue.

01:48:22.000 That's why they're doing such a massive recruitment drive.

01:48:24.000 That's why they're doing that 50k signing bonus.

01:48:26.000 Trump needs to needs to deliver on his electoral yeah, 50k signing bonus, yeah.

01:48:30.000 And I think what's an ad for ice now.

01:48:31.000 I think the logic there then that's should be made obvious to everybody is we do not have men of action in this country.

01:48:39.000 The people, the reason why we need masks for ice is because these men actually don't want to do the job.

01:48:44.000 They do not want to fight for their country.

01:48:46.000 They simply want the paycheck.

01:48:48.000 And they're unwilling to take any risks to themselves, their family, they just want the money.

01:48:52.000 I don't think that's they're trying to mitigate that on that.

01:48:55.000 They're they're putting their lives on the line.

01:48:56.000 They're going into like drug dens, they're going to why offer them $50,000 to do the like why do you need to offer $50,000 to somebody to come and take this job to do it?

01:49:04.000 Economy is terrible.

01:49:07.000 They gotta be able to provide for their families.

01:49:09.000 Like then but my my point is it's it's pretty dang simple.

01:49:13.000 If you're like, listen, I won't do this if there's any risk at all.

01:49:18.000 And I want $50,000.

01:49:20.000 It sounds like you are not someone who says, for my country.

01:49:23.000 Well, they're still taking on a lot of risks.

01:49:25.000 The masks are so they can still do their jobs.

01:49:27.000 Like, yeah, it would be terrible it's more, it would be just terrible for ICE if their agents kept getting mowed down because they're not masking.

01:49:33.000 Like it's like we're trying to get a job done.

01:49:35.000 We're trying to get all the illegals out, and masking helps push that goal forward. 1.00

01:49:40.000 That helps us get closer.

01:49:41.000 That must just move the ball down the field. 0.97

01:49:43.000 Right.

01:49:43.000 I'm just pointing out that if someone says, I don't want to do the job, how about 50 grand?

01:49:46.000 Sure, I'll do it, but can I wear a mask that no one knows who I am?

01:49:48.000 It's like that's not somebody who's like America will stand for eternity.

01:49:52.000 Well, I mean, that's the that's protocol.

01:49:54.000 I mean, right by right now, like I don't think it's it's it's a choice of the individual to not wear a mask.

01:49:58.000 I'm I might be completely wrong, but I imagine that's a different argument.

01:50:00.000 I but I imagine I imagine right now it's protocol, but even if you do like 50% of these guys, they are willing to have their face out there, to take those risks, you're still gonna diminish the force which is needed to go and get the job done.

01:50:12.000 I'm I'm saying even masks are not, that's still like a very noble thing.

01:50:15.000 Like I'm not saying literally every ICE officer hates this country and is doing it for money.

01:50:19.000 I'm saying the officers that don't want the job but were offered 50 grand and said, Okay, I'll take it, but let me wear a mask, are the people who are just in it for the job.

01:50:25.000 I don't think they're people that that's just what gets them over the edge.

01:50:29.000 But I think signing up for ICE, period.

01:50:31.000 I'm not even trying to like do a rah-rutchest beating to like dunk on people.

01:50:34.000 I'm just saying legitimately joining ICE as as like a decision, it's very noble because it's an inherently dangerous job.

01:50:41.000 For the same reason police officers, like I don't think I don't think it's like a terrible thing.

01:50:45.000 The NYPD has a little bit better incentives, like makes sense.

01:50:48.000 It's a very dangerous city to work in.

01:50:50.000 Like you you gotta reward people for like the risk they're taking.

01:50:54.000 I mean, I understand, but it's also ICE is like not joining ICE is not great for your lifestyle.

01:50:59.000 Like you usually have to move to some pretty nasty communities oftentimes.

01:51:02.000 But what I what what is most offensive to me about the general conversation is that you know, I stumbled into this when I started making videos and doing this, I wasn't making money doing it, I was losing money.

01:51:14.000 I left ABC Univision and I had savings, and I was losing money to cover these stories to you know, travel to travel to Sweden was a massive loss.

01:51:25.000 Then I started making YouTube videos at a massive loss.

01:51:27.000 I started getting th threats from antifa on the far left the whole time, losing money.

01:51:31.000 And it wasn't until like a year and a half later I finally cracked into the black and I was even and then I started working really hard and and and making more money, and then with that I had to hire more people, eventually bring on you know security, then I had to move, get away from the cities, all of which were ancillary to me just speaking out.

01:51:53.000 And then I'm told that and and this happens all the time, how how lucky I am for it. 0.68

01:51:58.000 When I'm like, I just wanted to fucking live in a van down by the river, dude. 0.66

01:52:01.000 But so like what why did you do that? 0.83

01:52:03.000 Why did you change your uproot your whole life?

01:52:05.000 Do this in the red?

01:52:06.000 What was the rationale towards that like why is it?

01:52:08.000 Because I don't care about money.

01:52:09.000 I care about country.

01:52:10.000 Okay, so you you put the country before the money, but did you not also consider like And other people won't, and I'm told I should have to while other people don't.

01:52:18.000 I ask for a few good men to stand up, wave the flag and say, I will die for my country, and then I'm told no, Tim, no Tim, you're wrong.

01:52:26.000 Other people shouldn't have to do that.

01:52:28.000 No one should take a risk.

01:52:29.000 They should do a job and get paid 50 grand to do it.

01:52:31.000 And I'm like, okay, I'll I maybe I shouldn't do this.

01:52:36.000 This is a good thing.

01:52:36.000 They're not taking this.

01:52:38.000 They're just guys with a very simple job, which is a very good thing.

01:52:40.000 I think the risk to them is substantially less in the broad sense.

01:52:44.000 In the in the immediacy of the job of ICE, they face tremendous risk that I do not, which I have tremendous respect for, which is why they carry guns, they have armor, protocol, APCs, helicopters, all that good stuff.

01:52:54.000 And that isn't that is an incredibly important job, and I'm glad people are doing it.

01:52:58.000 If the argument is in the in the greater sense, I should be willing to accept threats and death threats and all that stuff.

01:53:08.000 My my simple statement was maybe I shouldn't do this.

01:53:10.000 I'll make an AI channel with a V2.

01:53:12.000 But I mean, so like these ice guys are still part of that risk is they get doxxed, right?

01:53:17.000 Yeah, they're they're wearing masks on the job, but there is still a risk that you know someone speaks to somebody else, he's an ICE officer and his doc still gets out there.

01:53:24.000 That risk is still there.

01:53:25.000 Wearing the wearing that mask is just risk mitigation.

01:53:27.000 The same way that if you you know have security, that's risk mitigation.

01:53:30.000 Which is they're completely completely agreeable.

01:53:32.000 They're still putting themselves out there.

01:53:34.000 Completely agreed, point taken.

01:53:35.000 And my point is like me, Benny, Ruben, we should all ice our channels, make new ones.

01:53:42.000 That's what you want to do.

01:53:43.000 Then okay, let me finish.

01:53:45.000 ICER channels, make AI personas masked, no names that can share these messages.

01:53:52.000 The message is successful and we'll reach a broader audience, but then no one will know who we are and we'll be safe.

01:53:57.000 Well, if that's what you wanted to do, I'm sure you could do that today.

01:53:59.000 Charlie Kirk would be alive, right?

01:54:01.000 He would.

01:54:02.000 Would he have the same impact?

01:54:03.000 Would he have reached as many people?

01:54:05.000 No.

01:54:06.000 Of course not.

01:54:06.000 People buy people buy ideas from people.

01:54:08.000 People want to have how want that parasocial relationship of you know going and watching your show, feeling like they know you, yeah, like kind of growing that thought process with you, consuming the news at the same time as you.

01:54:18.000 That's uh a human interaction, like AI and faceless content can't replace that.

01:54:22.000 These guys have successfully be able to.

01:54:23.000 I don't think there is a personality that got into this for the well, I don't think there's a personality on the right that got into this business hoping to form parasocial relationships with people so that people would like them and follow them.

01:54:36.000 No, no, no, of course not.

01:54:37.000 That's not that's not the intended effect.

01:54:38.000 On the left, I think that's basically all that.

01:54:39.000 But but I mean, like you see when you were trying to get into the black as you were discussing earlier.

01:54:44.000 You will want you obviously needed to work harder.

01:54:46.000 What are you working harder consists of?

01:54:47.000 I imagine it putting out more content, putting in higher quality content out, and also sort of building your persona as an online figure, putting out more tweets, putting out more content.

01:54:55.000 Because that parasocial relationship that you create then leads to success, right?

01:54:58.000 Whether you're you're aware of that or not, like that that that is the reality, right?

01:55:02.000 People know Tim Poole, right?

01:55:03.000 They they they want to hear your opinion on things, they want to they they value you as a you can't.

01:55:09.000 I'm not saying like you won't wanted that parasocial relationship from a new participant point of view.

01:55:13.000 I am I am no Charlie Kirk, I am no Donald Trump, I am no JD Vance, I don't want to be in charge, I don't want to be a leader, I don't want to run for office.

01:55:21.000 I don't want to have an organization backing me with tons of people.

01:55:25.000 I just have ideas and I wanted to talk about what I see.

01:55:30.000 And largely I wanted to complain about how the media lies to everybody all the time and correct that.

01:55:35.000 And that's what I wanted to do.

01:55:38.000 And it is getting increasingly dangerous, and I think that may be a principal component why I probably get more death threats than most other people.

01:55:45.000 Is that I pull up the sources on every story, we break it down and then explain why this is fake from the mainstream media, with no disrespect to the conservative side, they're largely just proselytizing conservative values, which is very effective and good for their side, and I'm not saying that disrespectfully, but as a threat to the left, it is much less threatening when a man in a suit says, you know, Christ is king, here's why.

01:56:07.000 And they say that's not gonna sway any of our people. 0.97

01:56:10.000 But when I, a an urban liberal from Chicago, say, here's the Wall Street Journal in the Hollywood reporter proving the FCC did not play a role, a principal role, in taking down Jimmy Kimmel and the narrative from the left is fake, they go, he's gonna shit up. 1.00

01:56:23.000 So kill him. 0.98

01:56:24.000 And then so, you know, I'm I'm I am wholly jealous of seeing how many people got to go to Charlie's Memorial, and I'm like, I can't. 0.99

01:56:32.000 I I I don't because the death threats.

01:56:34.000 So there was like so many high profile people there.

01:56:36.000 Like that's security.

01:56:37.000 Yes, some of them had secret service level security were backstage.

01:56:40.000 I was not afforded that privilege.

01:56:41.000 You could have you could have gone to the floor at least, like there was like security all over there.

01:56:44.000 I did I did not have Kal Rittenhouse.

01:56:47.000 I did not have I have a security team.

01:56:50.000 I have a security team that did an assessment and determined that the threats were legit and too serious for me to go to Phoenix.

01:56:56.000 Okay.

01:56:56.000 Well, there were guys on the floor who didn't have like any Kyle Rittenhouse just walking about on the city.

01:57:00.000 That's amazing.

01:57:01.000 What's your security experience?

01:57:02.000 Well, I mean I used to work in the security industry.

01:57:04.000 You're your former military and intelligence and you've got a team of like I used to I I used to work with a company which did C CPO tests, but there would have been a risk assessment if that's the risk.

01:57:13.000 And the risk assessment was that you can't go in, then fair enough.

01:57:16.000 You recommend against travel.

01:57:17.000 Uh huh.

01:57:17.000 Because certainly the event is secure, but we can't secure the city.

01:57:20.000 So we can confine you to your hotel.

01:57:22.000 That's the smartest and best way to do it. 0.95

01:57:24.000 And I said, that sounds miserable.

01:57:26.000 And they were like, you still have the threat risks from transport to and from.

01:57:29.000 We're gonna bring food to your hotel, we're gonna check that for you to be it'll all be and I'm like, this is crazy.

01:57:34.000 I don't want I don't want to I don't want to.

01:57:35.000 Yeah, but what I'm saying, like that that you would have been able to, but it wouldn't have been a nice like holiday.

01:57:38.000 You wouldn't have been able to go out and go go to a bar and go have a drink.

01:57:41.000 Like I completely get that.

01:57:42.000 But yeah, and it's like 30 grand to do.

01:57:43.000 Yeah.

01:57:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:45.000 That that's I can't afford it.

01:57:46.000 Which we which is is abhorrent, right?

01:57:48.000 That's the reality that we live in in America and in in the West in general now.

01:57:52.000 And that's uh it's a very sad thing, but it shouldn't deter you. 0.98

01:57:55.000 And do you have thirty thousand dollars for me to hire security so I can do shit like that?

01:57:59.000 No, but I feel like if you if you have the resources to do it and you feel like it matters. 0.95

01:58:04.000 Well, that's kind of I mean this is a personal judgment call, I guess, at that point.

01:58:07.000 It's not uh when we did uh when we went to Des Moines, we were there with uh Vivek and I think Candace, that cost fifty, sixty thousand dollars in security.

01:58:16.000 Okay.

01:58:17.000 We got swatted 15 times, and I think people don't realize this.

01:58:20.000 It never stopped.

01:58:21.000 Yeah.

01:58:22.000 We just have security now.

01:58:24.000 Yeah.

01:58:24.000 We've got a security perimeter, we have armed guards, we have other security that I don't discuss.

01:58:29.000 Uh we're getting robot dogs.

01:58:32.000 I heard that was in the works.

01:58:35.000 I'm excited.

01:58:36.000 Yeah.

01:58:36.000 I mean, I'm not trying to downplay the threat to your life, but I'm saying that if you kind of let them confine you to your spot, I feel maybe it's just kind of my defiance, and I I I don't have a family in the way that you do.

01:58:47.000 Um that they win.

01:58:49.000 If you stop going to places, they win.

01:58:51.000 They they they're getting what what they want that that threat level that's stopping you from meeting people, being on the ground.

01:58:56.000 No, what they want is for him to stop talking.

01:58:59.000 Yeah.

01:58:59.000 So yeah.

01:59:00.000 Him continuing to do the show is making sure that they don't win.

01:59:05.000 Yeah.

01:59:05.000 But uh but uh but at the same time, they don't want you to continue to be out mingling with people where you could could get get further organized.

01:59:11.000 There could be other relationships you could I think they want me to, because that's where they can kill me. 0.78

01:59:19.000 He gets the most off of online through YouTube and rumble discs like that's his furthest reach is I don't think I get the most fence of every obviously Trump isn't it?

01:59:26.000 No, no, I'm just saying yeah, more than not.

01:59:28.000 On the corner of a street and Charlestown on a soapbox, you get more influence here than you do.

01:59:33.000 There's a reason why I mostly just hang out at casinos and people are always like, you know, I know not everybody, but people are like, Oh, Tim's talking about going to the casino.

01:59:40.000 Yeah, it's because I don't die there.

01:59:41.000 Yeah.

01:59:41.000 It's because pretty much the only place that I can sit down and mind my own business is a casino.

01:59:46.000 Because they all know me.

01:59:48.000 They when when you typically when you're uh when you're a uh high profile individual, you walk into any casino, security immediately flags you and they got cameras everywhere.

01:59:57.000 So when I go to a casino, I can walk around without security and have to worry about it.

02:00:02.000 But when I go out in the street, you you you you you just don't know.

02:00:07.000 Well, I mean, the the the incidents that people knew about, we had that year where we were swatted 15 notable times.

02:00:12.000 That wasn't the total amount that we actually had to deal with it.

02:00:15.000 People think that means cops are kicking our door every time.

02:00:17.000 It doesn't, it meant that the cop were doing sweeps basically all the time.

02:00:19.000 One credible threat resulted in us evacuating the studio for three hours, and everyone remembered it was chaircast and it was 40,000 people watching an empty room.

02:00:26.000 And then at one point you see the little dog walk in and they did the bomb sweep.

02:00:30.000 And uh there are locations that we've tried to obfuscate through your your typical legal means, which I won't get into detail on, but owning property through obfuscation to prevent security, and they they found us.

02:00:42.000 And we got swatted there, and armed men with rifles came, surrounded the building, and this is like it's an incessant constant thing.

02:00:50.000 We've had I think three instances of of uh the bomb squad deploying robots because the the tactics they use.

02:00:57.000 Uh there are means by which I shouldn't get into the full details.

02:01:02.000 Let me just put it simply that there are ways that these people use that force evacuations and bomb squads, legitimate credible threats. 0.99

02:01:11.000 And uh we have we had people who are leaking information to anti-foot and far leftists, infiltrators, really really crazy, crazy shit. 0.98

02:01:20.000 And uh it's it's it's not stopped. 0.99

02:01:23.000 We just pay more and more money to deal with it.

02:01:25.000 Well, I think like going back to what we're saying before is that you know, they want you to stop.

02:01:29.000 I think it is kind of making your quality of life so bad that you have to leave the house with your masses about armed security and do all these like risk assessments before going anywhere.

02:01:37.000 And then at some point you might go, well, I kind of just want a normal life with my wife and kids.

02:01:41.000 You know, like that that that is what it is.

02:01:43.000 So it's also like it's it's incredibly difficult.

02:01:47.000 I don't envy you at all.

02:01:48.000 Don't layer lay layer on top of it the stop whining, Tim, you're rich. 1.00

02:01:52.000 Layer on top of it, you you stop being a little bitch. 1.00

02:01:56.000 The cost of these things are far higher than the average person anticipates, I think. 0.98

02:01:59.000 You know, the cost of security.

02:02:01.000 And uh I'd much rather rather live in a van down by the river.

02:02:04.000 Now I got a wife and a child, and we're, you know, there's gonna be some more coming soon.

02:02:08.000 And so uh bungalow, middle of nowhere, uh, some chickens.

02:02:13.000 I could do online work and easily uh if if I was doing if I was doing standard marketing stuff, I'd probably make half a million a year working four hours a day.

02:02:24.000 Yeah.

02:02:24.000 Um, with my understanding of internet structures and all that stuff, I could easily do consulting work and probably make way more doing something else than this.

02:02:32.000 And so the challenge is always, and as it has been, the intense security risk that we face is a tremendous stress.

02:02:40.000 And it's not just me, but largely my wife, yeah, of course.

02:02:43.000 And and trying to deal with a new baby.

02:02:45.000 And so one of the reasons why I'm gonna be 40 and just had my first kid is exactly all the problems that I've discussed. 0.98

02:02:51.000 And then the the challenging thing in all of this, and let me just be a whiny little bitch because I don't care what people think. 0.90

02:02:56.000 That's why I unlike many other people, often just literally say exactly what I'm thinking, much to my own detriment. 0.89

02:03:02.000 But people will make comments, and it doesn't mean all that much to me when people rag on me on the internet.

02:03:08.000 I got millions of followers.

02:03:10.000 But to point out, the people who who have been constantly chatting things like stop being a little baby, Tim, start having a family, what's wrong with you, all of those kinds of comments, supposedly coming from people who are supposed to be on my side when the when the reason we're strained and struggling to do it is because people are trying to murder me.

02:03:27.000 And it's maybe we quit, shut it all down.

02:03:29.000 That way we can have a family and live a normal life.

02:03:32.000 Or we have to try and figure out how we balance making enough money to cover the cost of security so that we can live somewhere where we're not gonna be murdered, and then it is incredibly difficult to do that.

02:03:41.000 And so I I I I've said it before, you know, my wife's attitude is probably just when are you going to quit so we can stop having to worry about dying all the time. 1.00

02:03:52.000 And uh I don't know.

02:03:55.000 I I it's it's like you layer on that there's a tremendous respect for all the people who join the Discord server who are members, who do watch every single day, who buy the products we promote, who are very much into it, and I look at that, and it's not a human thing.

02:04:10.000 You know, when when I see coffee sales, I go, wow, did you guys know we did two million in Casper sales last year?

02:04:16.000 That's not profit.

02:04:16.000 That's total sales.

02:04:18.000 Still really good.

02:04:18.000 And then I'm like, people really believe in us and care about what we do.

02:04:21.000 And that number is it it means a lot.

02:04:24.000 But it is just a number.

02:04:25.000 It's not it's not an individual saying, you know, we we we respect you and we appreciate what you do.

02:04:30.000 I do get those as well.

02:04:31.000 Don't get me wrong.

02:04:32.000 So largely what we have in terms of encouragement is knowing that when people believe in us, they watch our shows, they buy our products, they're saying keep doing what you're doing, don't give up.

02:04:42.000 And that tremendously outweighs the negativity. 0.99

02:04:45.000 But the negativity is there the stop being a pussy bitch, Tim. 1.00

02:04:48.000 What do you have to worry about? 1.00

02:04:49.000 You're rich.

02:04:50.000 And coming from like accounts that I know, and you know, insulting me and like not having a kid soon enough, and me trying. 0.50

02:04:58.000 I would argue that most of the PR advice that I get from people is to pretend fake it and shut up.

02:05:03.000 And that's why when you watch any other show, they never talk like I'm talking now.

02:05:07.000 Yeah, no one will say this stuff.

02:05:09.000 Yep.

02:05:10.000 And I get it's bad for me, I guess.

02:05:13.000 Because what what works business wise in media, there's there's a couple big strategies.

02:05:18.000 One, it's be fake.

02:05:20.000 Make a plastic persona that exists on camera, and then be completely different off camera.

02:05:26.000 Whoever you are on camera is not who you are behind.

02:05:28.000 Once you're off, you go, you hide.

02:05:30.000 And I'm like, well, I don't know.

02:05:31.000 I don't really, I don't really do that.

02:05:33.000 The other thing is who you are doesn't matter.

02:05:36.000 Say whatever you have, whatever you have to say to get clicks.

02:05:38.000 And that's principally the left.

02:05:40.000 That's what they do.

02:05:41.000 There are a few people on the right who have been going real ham at it lately, especially the tri Charlie Kirk conspiracies, the views they're getting are massive.

02:05:47.000 But you know, long story short, I get emotional when people are like, you know, you should experience the death threats and the risk to your family, which is one thousand times greater than the average person, even in law enforcement.

02:05:58.000 And I'm like, I respect what law enforcement does tremendously.

02:06:01.000 I understand the threats against them, but I just wish more people were willing to be alike, I will not be be threatened in that way.

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02:08:23.000 We was she fighting with with Anna?

02:08:25.000 Yes.

02:08:26.000 Oh Gillian, Gillian Michaels stormed off of this is this is the PBD women's show, right? 0.99

02:08:31.000 Yeah.

02:08:33.000 Oh gosh.

02:08:34.000 Ladies, ladies, wait, is this like it had to be over Israel?

02:08:40.000 Had to be Israel. 0.97

02:08:41.000 I I I'm a real class.

02:08:44.000 I'm I'm ready, just we need we need um I I need a symbol of Timcast IRL.

02:08:52.000 What do we have?

02:08:52.000 The UF Phil.

02:08:53.000 Yes.

02:08:54.000 The UFO.

02:08:54.000 I'm gonna give it to you.

02:08:55.000 Okay.

02:08:56.000 I I can't.

02:08:57.000 I can't with this.

02:08:58.000 All of the security stuff was one thing, but this is too much for me.

02:09:02.000 I don't want to be a part of this industry.

02:09:03.000 Psychological.

02:09:04.000 I don't know why.

02:09:05.000 I don't know why Anna is taking on it. 0.92

02:09:09.000 There are conspiracy theorists who think Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

02:09:12.000 They have yet to provide a shred of evidence proving that.

02:09:15.000 Done.

02:09:16.000 And they're not talking about that.

02:09:17.000 I am talking about something entirely talking about.

02:09:19.000 No, no, hold on.

02:09:20.000 Oh, you can't.

02:09:20.000 Let me finish my f thought.

02:09:23.000 Okay.

02:09:23.000 The real issue here is that before most people even knew that Charlie Kirk was dead.

02:09:28.000 You have Netanyahu giving multiple interviews talking about how, oh, using the fing moment for his own political purposes, like the f that isn't let me finish my point.

02:09:41.000 I did I not just said that.

02:09:42.000 I literally's gonna make a lot of things.

02:09:44.000 Let me finish my point, Jillian. 0.99

02:09:45.000 Because none of us can finish the damn point without someone else jumping down your throat. 0.98

02:09:50.000 I don't think that Israel killed him because there's no evidence of that. 0.98

02:09:52.000 But I had a problem with Netanyahu exploiting an assassination in this country for his own political means and purposes and lying about the nature of his relationship with Charlie Kirk.

02:10:04.000 Because Charlie Kirk didn't like Netanyahu.

02:10:06.000 Just like any warm-blooded American shouldn't.

02:10:08.000 Netanyahu is a bad guy.

02:10:10.000 And he wanted to make it seem like, no, we were all great.

02:10:13.000 We were good.

02:10:13.000 We had a great relationship.

02:10:15.000 Little did we know behind the scenes, there was a lot of pressure towards Netanyahu.

02:10:18.000 I don't know how every show ends up being about how do we bash Israel.

02:10:22.000 This is not I'm not interested in this.

02:10:24.000 Okay, I know that's I'm with Gillian actually.

02:10:27.000 Let's be good about precious Israel.

02:10:29.000 Like genocide.

02:10:31.000 Yes.

02:10:31.000 Okay.

02:10:32.000 Zero.

02:10:32.000 I think you guys are going to be fundamentally disagree with you about every show doing this.

02:10:37.000 I'm sorry.

02:10:38.000 Cool.

02:10:39.000 That kind of is how like every normal person feels about like people that are that have strong opinions about Israel.

02:10:45.000 But it's like there exist I'm I'm with Jillian actually.

02:10:48.000 Like if every single conversation you just bring up Israel, I'm gonna be like, you know, you know, to be fair, I wouldn't quit on the spot.

02:10:55.000 I'd be like, uh, you're doing Israel again.

02:10:57.000 Okay, uh, let me know when you guys rap, I'm gonna grab a coffee.

02:11:00.000 And then I'd get up and walk out.

02:11:01.000 And they'd be like, Well, you walked out of business.

02:11:03.000 Well, I mean, you know, I we talk about it every single night.

02:11:07.000 I don't think you need to hear my thoughts on it again, because I'm just gonna say the same thing.

02:11:10.000 I largely don't know, I'm not super interested.

02:11:11.000 I'm gonna go grab a coffee.

02:11:13.000 We get the same thing here, like people constantly are saying, you know, like how come you're not talking about this?

02:11:18.000 How come you're not talking about this with Israel?

02:11:20.000 Blah blah blah.

02:11:20.000 It's like IRL is a topical show.

02:11:25.000 We talk about the news of the day. 0.98

02:11:27.000 If Israel is not in the news, that's literally why we fucking don't talk about it. 0.96

02:11:32.000 It's not just that. 0.95

02:11:33.000 And they they never it's never enough.

02:11:35.000 Russia's in the news.

02:11:35.000 We didn't talk about Russia.

02:11:36.000 Fair enough.

02:11:37.000 Israel, uh there was some news about it.

02:11:39.000 It's because we're talking about domestic issues that affect the American people.

02:11:43.000 I mean, I think I think the one clip which gets you guys the most flack is the one where you're talking about Epstein.

02:11:48.000 You said he's working for the K. That's fake.

02:11:49.000 That's a fake clip.

02:11:50.000 Of course.

02:11:51.000 Is it?

02:11:51.000 Yep.

02:11:52.000 I had no idea.

02:11:52.000 And I don't know if there's me thinking about it.

02:11:54.000 Well, I'm assuming that's the one where he's what it might look bad on the Saudis, it might look bad on the Qataris or something like that.

02:11:59.000 Uh the thing of a different one.

02:12:01.000 That's it.

02:12:02.000 Yeah, that's the one where they're like, oh, Tim's Bolton paid for.

02:12:05.000 Because I mean, like, I personally think.

02:12:06.000 Oh, no, that's fine.

02:12:07.000 I mean, I'm not sure.

02:12:08.000 I look up I I look at the Epstein thing and go, yeah, well, he clearly has Maside connections. 0.77

02:12:11.000 My brain wouldn't jump to the fake clip.

02:12:14.000 It's a fake clip because we played a clip.

02:12:16.000 Dan Bonjino was on the show, and and he said that um uh Epstein was some kind of Middle Eastern intelligence, and then we all started bustling out laughing, and I was like, oh, Middle Eastern, huh?

02:12:26.000 Oh, you it was like uh Yeah, there's a fake there's a fake clip that's shared by the the anti-Jew crowd.

02:12:33.000 Yeah, where we're talking about the US liberty, and I said something to Ian, like whether it's a false flag doesn't matter because the instance itself will be utilized by its supporters and denounced by its detractors.

02:12:45.000 So and then they they cut it and edit it in a way to where there's like a pause, and we're like you're like you can't talk about it.

02:12:52.000 You can't talk about that, and they paused it for like a minute.

02:12:54.000 They put a fake pause in.

02:12:56.000 Right.

02:12:56.000 Yeah, okay.

02:12:57.000 Uh he Ian brought US Liberty out, oh, be careful about that one.

02:13:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:13:00.000 And then he was like, something about a false flag, and I was like, right, the problem with false flags is supporters will always believe it, and detractors will always deny it.

02:13:07.000 So the issue is it doesn't matter if it's actually a false flag because proving it won't change the minds of those that want to use it.

02:13:13.000 I mean, like ideological ends.

02:13:14.000 Like I said before, it's a topical show is something from like 50 years ago really gonna begin to change the American mind, or either gonna be relevant in today's politics or something.

02:13:21.000 Oh, it's people are constantly spamming the chat with USS Liberty.

02:13:24.000 Yes.

02:13:25.000 Yeah, well, I mean I mean it I mean though those It gets a reaction, like that it's wrong and it it it is an important thing that did happen, but I mean like there's enough people who've discussed a hard time.

02:13:35.000 That's Pakistan. 1.00

02:13:36.000 Huh?

02:13:36.000 That's Pakistan.

02:13:37.000 Well it's Pakistan. 0.97

02:13:38.000 The comments largely about Israel come from people from places like Pakistan and and you know Qatar.

02:13:44.000 Well, I know, I can look at it.

02:13:46.000 Okay.

02:13:46.000 Yeah, so it's not all of them, but we can look at our uh and our analytics and we're like, oh yeah, look at that.

02:13:51.000 Okay.

02:13:52.000 Uh what I think is largely happening is and this is not just my opinion, there have been reports on this.

02:13:59.000 One, there's the more conspiracy theory that Qatar is paying people.

02:14:03.000 Yeah.

02:14:03.000 I don't think that's true.

02:14:05.000 Uh and you know, they they inject me into their conflict when I asked Netanyahu if it had any evidence that was the case, and he sh and he brushed it off.

02:14:13.000 Right. 0.97

02:14:13.000 And then I was like, okay, and then some pro-Israel outlet wrote Tim Poole claimed Cutter is funding this, and uh and I was like, no the fuck I didn't. 0.97

02:14:22.000 I said, we have heard this claim.

02:14:25.000 Is there any proof you have that this is actually true?

02:14:27.000 And but people don't know what journalism is anymore.

02:14:30.000 Like when I asked Elon, now that Antifa's been designated a terrorist organization, will you remove their accounts?

02:14:35.000 I had left and right saying, Tim, no, don't advocate. 0.97

02:14:39.000 And I'm like, I fucking asked a question. 0.97

02:14:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:14:42.000 Is he going to take enforcement action now that they're terrorists?

02:14:44.000 But people don't understand that distinction anymore.

02:14:46.000 So what I think is happening, there's been reporting.

02:14:49.000 There are people in India, Pakistan, Malaysia, etc.

02:14:53.000 that watch American content on YouTube.

02:14:55.000 Of course.

02:14:56.000 And if it's anti-Israel, they're going to watch.

02:14:59.000 So there have been some personalities who I won't name that everybody keeps talking about how they've generated a large Middle Eastern audience and so they're they're careful about what they say that might be bad because you make a lot of money.

02:15:12.000 And then you take a look at the metrics, and there are certain personalities that defy metrics, and you're like, that's interesting.

02:15:20.000 The times they post, the views they get.

02:15:24.000 Yeah, it's probably because their audience is largely outside of the United States.

02:15:26.000 I think that's true of a lot of the comments on X, and that's why we've all like the America first people have been saying Elon should create a country filter so that we're only getting opinions from people in the United States, and then we'll know how many people actually care about Israel.

02:15:39.000 But I think the easiest piece of evidence as to how it's not America is that it's pretty fucking weird when like the news is Charlie Kirk's assassination, and then you get spam blasted chats about Israel.

02:15:50.000 I mean you're not going to be able to do that. 0.52

02:15:51.000 And we're like, guys, no one in this country is talking about Israel right now.

02:15:53.000 Why are you?

02:15:54.000 I mean you've got like the the Nick Fuentes crowd as well.

02:15:56.000 I mean, like he can generate hundreds of thousands of people who are like who will who are Americans largely who will also push that.

02:16:02.000 So I think I I mean I'm sure the numbers are like inflated between like the Pakistan thing, but like you think Fuentes' audience is all Americans?

02:16:09.000 No, no, no, of course not.

02:16:10.000 Uh but I mean like even someone like Alex Jones, who's taken a very like anti-Israel stance, took a to a degree as well, Candace Owens, like they they have definitely changed the American right towards actually being like, hang on, Israel is a problem, why are we cow talent to them?

02:16:23.000 I think I think there's two things.

02:16:24.000 Uh TikTok has has uh largely made Gen Z anti-Israel.

02:16:29.000 And uh I I don't I don't care.

02:16:31.000 Like, where do you think opinions come from, right?

02:16:33.000 It's it's it's the cultural systems and the media that we consume.

02:16:36.000 And TikTok, we have the data from October 7th into the end of October that it appeared there was an algorithmic switch which began to promote anti-Israel sentiment.

02:16:46.000 Uh following October 7th on TikTok, it was like 80% pro-Israel, 20% anti-Israel.

02:16:52.000 Right.

02:16:53.000 And then within the the span of a like two days, it inverted and increased tenfold on the anti-Israel side.

02:16:59.000 You think that was just because the engagement was higher?

02:17:00.000 That was an that was indicative of an algorithmic change.

02:17:03.000 Do you think the algorithmic change was just like one of pure numbers where they're like people do engage with this stuff?

02:17:08.000 Someone at TikTok would have to have pressed a button for those numbers to make sense.

02:17:11.000 Okay.

02:17:11.000 That that that was the general presumption.

02:17:14.000 Otherwise, you like I track all the all the algorithmic stuff on all the platforms.

02:17:19.000 We go over the reason why people say unalive is because we can see the direct results in everything we do and how it's impacted.

02:17:25.000 On YouTube, you can tell when they change the algorithm is overnight.

02:17:30.000 Because any minor change dramatically affects everything about your channel.

02:17:34.000 They don't it it it it's never really slow.

02:17:36.000 And so the presumption is, and I don't think it's guaranteed fact, but the presumption is based on the switch, it looks like TikTok intervened and said invert it.

02:17:45.000 This triggered uh Democrats to join Republicans.

02:17:48.000 Republicans initially were like, ban TikTok because it's censoring conservatives.

02:17:52.000 Right.

02:17:52.000 All of a sudden Democrats got on board.

02:17:54.000 Why?

02:17:54.000 Because TikTok went against Israel.

02:17:57.000 TikTok inverted the algorithm, Democrats immediately flip the fuck out, and then you got a bipartisan ban of TikTok, all because they were trying to defend Israel.

02:18:05.000 And so what ends up happening with TikTok is Trump ends up saying, no, let it let it stay because there's this uh uh the presumption is there's this Republican billionaire who's an investor in it, and it's like don't don't ban it, let's just change it.

02:18:16.000 And so you have young people who have been in this platform that Democrats and Republicans intended to stop because it was anti-Israel, have now been consuming media for two, three years off of this anti-Israel sentiment, and now Gen Z is largely anti-Israel.

02:18:33.000 So when I look at Tucker and Candace and I see them like Candace, for instance, is putting out a lot of these videos without directly saying it's Israel, but the general sentiment everyone has is she's implying Israel did it.

02:18:44.000 It's because you have Gen Z that is 24% supports Israel. 0.85

02:18:48.000 So presumably it's like 70 or so that does not.

02:18:51.000 And then you have global audience, of which globally Israel's not that popular.

02:18:55.000 Of course not.

02:18:56.000 So if you are trying to maximize viewership, you're not focused on America.

02:19:00.000 You're focused on a general broad audience.

02:19:03.000 Well, I think the whole APAC thing as well, though.

02:19:04.000 I mean, that is bipartisan.

02:19:06.000 Like the APAC has huge amounts of sway over the Democrats and the Republicans.

02:19:10.000 And I think people are looking at that, going, well, how does this foreign lobby group, which technically isn't considered a foreign lobby, why is it have so much influence?

02:19:17.000 And I think that it then gets perpetuated.

02:19:20.000 Because people don't discuss it.

02:19:21.000 You think Apex fake?

02:19:22.000 No, I think Apex's real, but I think the idea that they're outsized in their influence.

02:19:26.000 I think their their influence is commensurate to their funding.

02:19:29.000 I think APAC is APAC.

02:19:31.000 I think I have no problem with them registering as foreign agents.

02:19:34.000 I think that they are sub they they do have a substantial amount of influence.

02:19:37.000 But I also don't understand why people bring up APAC, but they don't bring up the China lobby, which is I think 40 times bigger.

02:19:46.000 That's the problem I have with it is that people go APAC, and I'm like, before we get to APAC, we've got the China lobby, we've got big pharma lobby.

02:19:53.000 Yeah, all kinds of lots of well, well, I'm talking about foreign interests.

02:19:55.000 Okay, Roger.

02:19:56.000 And I and I have no problem saying nobody should be dual, no one no one in Congress should be allowed to be a dual citizen anywhere, all that stuff.

02:20:01.000 Farah registration, all that good stuff.

02:20:03.000 But back to the point of this show. 1.00

02:20:06.000 I agree with Jillian in that, like, dude, shut the fuck. 1.00

02:20:09.000 Oh my God. 1.00

02:20:10.000 Like talk about Israel when Israel's in the news, criticize Israel all you want, please. 0.67

02:20:14.000 I I encourage you to do so.

02:20:16.000 I want to hear more about the bad things they're doing.

02:20:19.000 And I I appreciate you bringing that up. 0.97

02:20:21.000 But when it's every fucking day, yeah, it gets tiresome. 0.99

02:20:25.000 Charlie Kirk got assassinated, and the first fucking thing we see from people is Israel dead. 1.00

02:20:30.000 I'm like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:20:32.000 I don't know if it was the it was the guy they're claiming it was. 0.99

02:20:34.000 We don't know for sure.

02:20:35.000 Maybe it was the shooter in the bush, maybe it was the shooter in the window, maybe it's the guy with the palm pistol, maybe it was the old man in front with the secret gun.

02:20:42.000 Maybe it was Bridget McCron in the trapdoor. 1.00

02:20:44.000 That's what that's what Fuentes said. 0.98

02:20:45.000 I don't fucking know. 0.98

02:20:46.000 But I'm with Fuentes on this one. 0.98

02:20:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:20:49.000 Can we stop the conspiratard shit? 1.00

02:20:51.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:20:51.000 Anyway, we gotta go to callers. 0.99

02:20:54.000 Let's start with uh the dictator.

02:20:56.000 What is up?

02:20:58.000 What's up, Tim?

02:20:59.000 Hey, thanks for saying my call, guys.

02:21:00.000 Hey, doing well.

02:21:02.000 How are you?

02:21:04.000 Pretty good.

02:21:05.000 So um I I so first I just wanted to say I agree with everything that Tim has been saying tonight, except for the part about giving up.

02:21:12.000 But otherwise, yeah, I agree with everything that you've been saying.

02:21:15.000 Absolutely.

02:21:16.000 And uh, but while we all are while we are all concerned about the left as terrorism and everything else that's going on right now, uh with the just the left in general.

02:21:27.000 Uh I just wanted to come in here and say how um and ask, like, why considering everything we we have seen going on across the country, uh in sorry, in across the the across Europe and the UK, uh when will Americans realize that it's time to wake up and get rid of Islam in this country. 1.00

02:21:48.000 We're gonna still have that issue to deal with, even if we get rid of the left.

02:21:53.000 Uh it I don't know that anyone can put a a clock on that.

02:21:58.000 And and as long as there's not a critical mass, um, I don't see that happening.

02:22:05.000 Yeah, I don't think like Islam's like an existential threat to the US.

02:22:08.000 I mean, it could be one day, but um, it's like two less than two percent of the population, it's really concentrated in like four cities.

02:22:15.000 Um I agree it's a problem.

02:22:17.000 Like, I don't want I don't want to live in an Islamic country. 1.00

02:22:20.000 Like I think Islam's a pretty, you know, uh degenerate uh religion, broadly speaking. 1.00

02:22:25.000 I mean, their countries are proof.

02:22:27.000 But uh yeah, I don't think they're like really anything like I think uh the Republican Party specifically uses it as a carrot on a stick to like scare people.

02:22:34.000 And I'm just like it's not really existential in the US unless you live in Dearborn, which it is a problem there.

02:22:39.000 Um and you can mop it up pretty quickly.

02:22:42.000 Like I don't think I think the left is a much bigger issue.

02:22:45.000 Or Texas, it's not that you have huge states real quick, they have huge uh things, big the biggest mock mosque and stuff, and they've been building cities in Texas. 0.95

02:22:53.000 Yeah, but it might not be an existential threat, bro.

02:22:56.000 But LG gays weren't until they are. 1.00

02:22:59.000 Well, no, it well, Islam is the existential threats. 1.00

02:23:01.000 The immigrant third world immigration would be the threat there, because it's equally as big of a problem, they build these big monkey statues, and that's like a Hindu thing or something. 1.00

02:23:09.000 So it's like Islam, Islam is just like a f of like a factor of the bigger problem, which is like unchecked migration from the third world, like destroying. 1.00

02:23:19.000 I think the difference between she mentioned the UK there as well. 0.92

02:23:22.000 The UK has a massive integration problem.

02:23:25.000 I know American Muslims, and they're actually very well integrated in comparison to the UK, where they just choose not to.

02:23:31.000 There's a the Muslims in the UK certainly do integrate, but there's a there's a massive problem with the fact that they they don't and they sort of take over these areas similar to my what what you might be seeing in in in Dearborn. 1.00

02:23:41.000 Um you're a much larger country, you're not bringing in mass Islamic migration on the same level as we are.

02:23:46.000 You're also not propping up the sort of social services to facilitate it either.

02:23:50.000 Yes, we are.

02:23:50.000 Um yeah, on the same scale as you can.

02:23:53.000 We're given all kind of illegal immigrants and money they want. 0.99

02:23:57.000 I'm not I'm not so so well versed, but I mean UK is like next level.

02:24:00.000 They give prime real estate in London.

02:24:03.000 The problem is is that like the Islamic the values of an Islamic civilization. 1.00

02:24:07.000 If you're if you're a real Muslim, you're a real Sunni Muslim, Shia Muslim, you believe in uh in in the Sharia, you have to. 0.99

02:24:12.000 Like if not, then you're you just be an intellectually dishonest.

02:24:16.000 Uh and that religious law will trump any secular law that has that that you that isn't in the country that you move to.

02:24:22.000 It is a intellectually dishonest position to argue otherwise.

02:24:25.000 You can speak to any you know well versed Muslim scholar.

02:24:27.000 That's fine.

02:24:27.000 They they they believe in in that religious law.

02:24:30.000 But that will never ever be compatible with the laws of America unless they they change it you'd have to completely repeal the constitution.

02:24:37.000 In the UK we don't have a constitution on the same level so we're seeing it take more of a hold because you know if you're if you're thinking as an Islamic community you think right we want to gain political power America wouldn't be the nation that you would do it in because you have the constitution. 0.97

02:24:48.000 Yeah.

02:24:48.000 Look at somewhere like the UK where all you've got to do is get a majority in parliament you can pretty much do most things without but by the king intervening which the king definitely isn't going to intervene he seems very sympathetic.

02:25:02.000 There is a huge amount of of differing values and you know in Europe where we're seeing that on the political stage and even when they've kind of made this Islamic leftist alliance it's falling apart now in the UK because like other stuff like trans rights and uh you know the the the status of women uh and the these sort of social issues so it's it's very thin end of the wedge but you know as a Brit coming here like the last thing on my mind is oh is is is Islamic immigration like some some threat here to me it's it's it's it's a non fact you've got much bigger fish to throw to fry.

02:25:31.000 But I mean but it is worthwhile keeping in the back of your head going okay well if you bring in let's say there's some deal over Gaza where they're saying you know the US is going to bring in I don't know let's say half a million people from Gaza that is going to radically change the US but also change their strain of of Islam too. 0.95

02:25:44.000 You know when these people get into the mosque these more radical ideas come and these people who were were integrated can actually end up radicalized which we see we saw in the UK when we had the the the refugees from Syria coming in they were coming into into into Mosum masjards where they were otherwise fairly well integrated and these radicalized ideas began to disseminate so you you you do have to be careful you definitely gotta be aware of it.

02:26:04.000 I mean obviously this country that suffered again nine eleven right you've got that's always going to be in in your sort of uh cultural psyche but Israel did that so I don't know oh did it okay right Bush did it who did it yeah does that answer your question I mean I I didn't think people would agree with me too much on that but uh I just want to remind everyone Islam is a problem. 1.00

02:26:26.000 um and while i yeah i fully disagree i know that we have bigger fish to fry um at the moment but eventually we got to deal with uh the issue of the people we cause do you think that that tate has a point though if you take care of immigration more broadly the issue of islam kind of is taken care of when you take care of immigration or do you think that there's already enough people here that ascribe to the religion where they

02:26:56.000 will evade eventually outbreed American you know you know Christians or or or agnostics or what have you no I don't think that illegal immigration or you know getting rid of all people from legal immigration will uh fix the the threat of Islam in America. 0.97

02:27:13.000 A lot of the people that are in Michigan are likely here – Michigan and Minnesota are likely here legally, and yeah, they will outbreed us.

02:27:24.000 Legal immigration is a problem.

02:27:26.000 Yeah, I was saying immigration broadly, like legal immigration.

02:27:30.000 This is why legal immigration is much more of a threat to a large degree than illegal immigration is because legal immigrants stay. 0.84

02:27:36.000 And so if they come and they're Muslim – because I totally agree with you that it's a threat to the way of life of the United States. 1.00

02:27:42.000 They can stay and illegally you can get.

02:27:44.000 can get out like pretty easily with the whip of a judge's pen.

02:27:47.000 But in a illegal immigrant that's a much that's a much more rigid process you're gonna get a little mean.

02:27:53.000 So I mean it's something in America where like you've always had a historically very good integration process but people still hold on like you know look at the Italian American community they still hold their cultural values there.

02:28:05.000 So I think that you know no matter who's going to come in you can't expect them to ever fully integrate the way that someone who came on the Mayflower is you've got different cultures within the American culture.

02:28:13.000 You've got got different subcultures and Islam being a religion you're always going to have that risk of even if they do kind of integrate they they don't sort of fully follow the Sharia it's always going to be there in the in the back of the in the back of the mind and then in the same way that you can have some fairly uh unradical Christian groups who you know over time you'll see them become more fervent and kind of come back to the faith and actually begin living out their their moral values it's always there it's sort of a latent thing.

02:28:36.000 Uh just with uh I did enjoy the one time where the free Palestine um rally parade they got and uh they butted heads with the LGG LGBT people and they're all yeah, arguing and yelling at each other. 0.69

02:28:49.000 Yeah, they can't even integrate into the left, let alone America.

02:28:51.000 Yeah, yeah, thank God they didn't uh bump into each other on our rooftop.

02:28:56.000 True.

02:28:57.000 Very true.

02:28:58.000 Yeah.

02:28:59.000 But I mean, like the they do move as a monolithic force, right?

02:29:02.000 There is the idea of the ummah, the international Islamic community, which is why you have this response to Gaza. 0.83

02:29:08.000 Um it is it is a lobby in and of itself.

02:29:11.000 Whether it's a social lobby, I mean also I do have a lot large amount of financial backing as well.

02:29:16.000 Um, it will always be a fifth column in your society.

02:29:18.000 That you can't integrate an Islamic community into a Christian society. 1.00

02:29:23.000 Something's gotta give.

02:29:24.000 Yeah, you know.

02:29:24.000 Um what war one is is is is living under the other.

02:29:27.000 Like the de facto, it's always been like that throughout history.

02:29:29.000 And so same with sort of any religious group.

02:29:31.000 Uh, even in the UK, like the Catholics and the Protestants couldn't agree enough that one was living under under the other. 0.97

02:29:36.000 Uh you take someone like Islam, they're so radically different from different denominations of Christianity. 1.00

02:29:40.000 It's not not gonna work.

02:29:42.000 Like you're not gonna have a truly integrated population there.

02:29:45.000 Good point.

02:29:45.000 What about it?

02:29:46.000 Yeah.

02:29:46.000 So you uh you want to add anything or you uh want to shout anything out?

02:29:50.000 Yeah, I I could add that stuff on there, but I don't want to take the show on my show.

02:29:54.000 So uh I just wanted to say uh quickly, Islam is that the issue and you know, Protestants is that uh Protestants are to uh Catholicism what a not what a peaceful Muslim is to Islam.

02:30:10.000 As a Catholic, I would agree.

02:30:14.000 And to that, I would just like to say uh follow me on X. I am the dictator X is uh on X and uh otherwise I got nothing else and chunking right now, so I'll talk to you guys later.

02:30:26.000 Thanks for calling in cheers, man.

02:30:27.000 So I just want to uh uh quickly apologize for being on my phone just there.

02:30:31.000 Uh not only did I receive a a very important and good text, which I have to it's important work stuff.

02:30:37.000 People would be happy if we can figure figure this one out.

02:30:39.000 I'd also want to add um we were trying to get this really big show for tomorrow, and we couldn't make it happen.

02:30:48.000 And so I'm uh just trying to make sure I have the details because we had requested that Elijah Schaefer, Myron Gaines, and Nick Fuentes come on the show.

02:30:56.000 Holy moly.

02:30:57.000 And Nick, I guess said no.

02:31:00.000 And uh Elijah was like, Well, I'll go if if Nick goes.

02:31:04.000 And then my understanding is that uh they're not gonna make it.

02:31:07.000 Yeah.

02:31:08.000 So that's I just because we're winning to the last minute.

02:31:11.000 My general understanding is he's he's he's not gonna make it.

02:31:14.000 It is unfortunate.

02:31:16.000 But uh tomorrow morning we're discussing the Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories, and we wanted to have uh Elijah Myron and Nick Fuentes for their views.

02:31:24.000 Would have been a good one.

02:31:25.000 Aren't they all one-sided views?

02:31:26.000 Oh, Nick is Nick is against the conspiracies.

02:31:29.000 Okay.

02:31:29.000 Yeah.

02:31:30.000 And and and and the reason why I thought it'd be very interesting is because there's the Israel did its side, and then there's Nick Fuentes saying Israel did not do it, which is a very interesting take considering his position on Israel.

02:31:42.000 And uh, I guess he didn't want to do it.

02:31:46.000 I mean, he has been traveling around a fair bit.

02:31:47.000 He was on Russell Brand, and then I think he was over.

02:31:51.000 Yeah, he was interpreted the other day.

02:31:55.000 Yeah, no.

02:31:56.000 Oh, isn't they just oh, is me no favors.

02:31:58.000 It would have been a good one.

02:31:59.000 This wasn't the first time too that the people in chat would have uh got what they wanted.

02:32:05.000 All right, let's uh bring in uh Olivia Dasovek. 1.00

02:32:09.000 Oh, what's up?

02:32:10.000 Friendly fire.

02:32:11.000 Thank you guys.

02:32:12.000 Hello.

02:32:13.000 Um is it?

02:32:16.000 Is he asleep so that way you're calling in to talk smack about him?

02:32:19.000 Is that what it is?

02:32:19.000 Because I'm gonna tell him.

02:32:20.000 Yeah, even though he's right next to me, I am about to talk mad shit about him. 0.93

02:32:25.000 Um my questions for everybody. 0.95

02:32:31.000 Um, so a lot of the recent violence we've seen from young people were clearly radicalized before they were 18 on social media platforms.

02:32:40.000 If we can't implement a law because I think there's been a lot of attempts to do so.

02:32:45.000 What should parents be doing to know more about their children's behavior online?

02:32:49.000 Um and how can we prevent our kids, you know, from going down that path as well.

02:32:55.000 Don't live on phones.

02:32:57.000 Don't let them have phones.

02:32:58.000 And and if they do have phones, spyware.

02:33:01.000 A lot of spyware.

02:33:02.000 Oh, yeah.

02:33:02.000 Monitor what they're doing.

02:33:04.000 Don't let them have a phone that's private.

02:33:06.000 Uh Like if you're 16, you don't get a private phone.

02:33:11.000 I don't care what anyone says.

02:33:14.000 Every night that camera auto-focuses on Charlie and Vosh and blurs out Phil's face.

02:33:19.000 There's nothing wrong with uh with that.

02:33:20.000 My uh it softens my my crow's feet is what it's as a as a uh parent of 14 children.

02:33:27.000 My advice would be 14 children, yes.

02:33:29.000 Um, believe it or not, um, would definitely be I got nothing, but don't give them phones, you know, monitor the foot, don't let them on the internet.

02:33:36.000 At least I mean internet, yes, but phones is tough.

02:33:39.000 I mean, I don't know what you're gonna do when but by the time you have babies, uh there might be what what the 15 years down the road.

02:33:46.000 So it might be it might be you might be having brain chips by then, so good luck.

02:33:52.000 Thanks, Raymond.

02:33:53.000 You're always such a cheery dude.

02:33:55.000 I mean, it's the future's real.

02:33:57.000 Sorry.

02:33:59.000 I mean, look, yeah, the like remember the parents are the parents, right?

02:34:04.000 So there's gonna be things where the state can step in if you're abusing your child, but like not giving not allowing your child to have a private cell phone that or or phone that connects to the internet that they can do whatever on.

02:34:20.000 There is there is nothing that the government's gonna do about that, right?

02:34:24.000 Like you are the parent.

02:34:26.000 You are you will be providing all of the things for that child.

02:34:30.000 Like back in the day, I don't know if this is still something that's normal or not, but like if I like my parents were like, don't close the door in your route to your room, and I didn't get to close the door, whether I liked it or not.

02:34:42.000 Yeah, there was no privacy.

02:34:44.000 My dad could walk into the room whenever he felt like it because it was his house.

02:34:49.000 And the room that I was in wasn't my room, it was his room that I got to keep my stuff in.

02:34:54.000 And this idea that children get to tell parents, this is my room, I have privacy, I need that. 0.99

02:35:01.000 You don't have shit. 1.00

02:35:02.000 When you're 18 years old, you can move the fuck out, then you can pay for all of your fucking shit, and then you can have privacy. 1.00

02:35:09.000 But if you're living under my roof and I'm paying for all of your stuff, you can take that privacy shit and shove it up your ass because it ain't happening. 1.00

02:35:17.000 And so you should know what your kids are doing. 1.00

02:35:19.000 You should know what they're talking who they're talking to.

02:35:21.000 They shouldn't have anything on their phone that's locked up.

02:35:24.000 You should know what apps they're using.

02:35:26.000 You should know their passwords for all of their social media accounts.

02:35:29.000 If they have them, I don't think they should have them until they're at least 16.

02:35:33.000 No computer, no phone, no internet, you know.

02:35:34.000 Yeah.

02:35:35.000 I mean, uh I do think that like there might be an argument when they're like 16.

02:35:39.000 If they get a job, they can buy their own phone or whatever.

02:35:42.000 Then, you know, but like until then, they get to use the computer in they get to if they if they're gonna use a computer, they get to use the computer.

02:35:49.000 That's the family computer that's in the den or in the in the living internet at all.

02:35:54.000 None.

02:35:54.000 Really?

02:35:55.000 And this is for all the people who who chat in and say you're having babies.

02:35:59.000 Listen to this advice.

02:36:00.000 Nothing for anyone.

02:36:01.000 Your baby's gonna computer, computer in the uh I I would say they can have they can have a computer at a certain age with no internet, and uh, you know, I make sure it's got no internet because I know how to do that.

02:36:14.000 Do you not feel like that's like handicapping your child?

02:36:16.000 So I mean I'm perhaps one of the few on the panel who completely grew up with the internet from being like young.

02:36:21.000 Uh like phone, like everything.

02:36:23.000 I'm 22.

02:36:25.000 What kid is better off because they have access to the internet.

02:36:28.000 Well, I mean, like I would not smarter, they're not getting better test scores. 1.00

02:36:31.000 Actually, stupider. 0.99

02:36:32.000 Yeah, it's a so I so I'll I'll play devil's objects. 0.99

02:36:35.000 I'll back them up with it.

02:36:35.000 So I think I always go I think it's about what values and what sort of work ethic and how you kind of teach your kid to use the internet.

02:36:43.000 I think you're gonna handicap your child, they're not gonna be in touch with the cultural site. 1.00

02:36:46.000 Guys, you might say, well, that's that's a good thing.

02:36:48.000 That's a good thing, right?

02:36:49.000 That's one possible.

02:36:50.000 However, that's the con.

02:36:51.000 However, the they're not gonna be able to be able to socialize and speak and understand people as well.

02:36:54.000 You have to know the opposing argument.

02:36:57.000 The second thing is I spent all my time just like reading, watching videos.

02:37:00.000 I actually was able to set up my own business just through being able to be online when I was like 14, just started running Facebook ads, right?

02:37:05.000 That was something I did off my own phone.

02:37:06.000 When did you when did you first get the internet?

02:37:08.000 Uh like the age eight.

02:37:10.000 What?

02:37:11.000 Age eight.

02:37:12.000 Yeah.

02:37:12.000 And you had no restrictions?

02:37:14.000 No.

02:37:14.000 I would I would I would call that lucky.

02:37:17.000 What we've seen from the data is that it uh phone use actually inhibits and and retards kids. 0.99

02:37:25.000 It makes them pretty retarded. 1.00

02:37:26.000 But I think I mean, but you're not. 1.00

02:37:29.000 But the average, so my kid's not getting any of this shit. 0.96

02:37:31.000 Uh I had a computer when I was a kid. 0.96

02:37:33.000 I had internet, but internet back then was very, very different.

02:37:36.000 I didn't my parents didn't have to worry about snuff films and midget porn. 1.00

02:37:39.000 Back then it was like you'd go on AOL and you'd click a box and it would give you like nine options for like areas of AUL.

02:37:46.000 So I would go to the freeware section and look up the various video games and download them. 0.98

02:37:51.000 Or maybe I'd go to like audiofile.com where they'd be like the MP3s that are available today, and there would be like six MP3s, and it's like I never heard of those fucking songs.

02:38:00.000 I'll download one anyway.

02:38:01.000 And then you click it, and it'll be like 14 hours to finish the download.

02:38:04.000 That was the internet when I was a kid.

02:38:06.000 So I got I built my first computer when I was I think eight years old.

02:38:10.000 I I got Windows 3.1.

02:38:13.000 My family had internet back when it was on DOS with CompuServe.

02:38:16.000 Yeah, and you had to type everything in.

02:38:17.000 And then I remember we got DOS shell and you could press up and down, and then we had a mouse, and you could move the mouse cursor around.

02:38:23.000 I was like, this is crazy. 0.99

02:38:25.000 I remember playing that fucking mind game from Apogee where you're a little guy in outer space trying to collect all the dumb little minds and Commander Keen. 1.00

02:38:32.000 Nowadays the internet is pedophiles trying to get your kids on Roblox to say weird ass creepy shit to them. 1.00

02:38:39.000 And the the problem I would argue with the internet is it's basically right now, like telling your dropping your kid off in downtown and being like, good luck, and then walking away. 0.98

02:38:49.000 I mean, like you I'm not saying you shouldn't monitor your kids' internet access, right?

02:38:52.000 You you you certainly should, and there's various different apps and different softwares which will have like hard blocks that you can. 0.84

02:38:57.000 Even Wikipedia is a bunch of weird gay commie books. 1.00

02:38:59.000 Well, I mean, like I thought I was gonna bring the I used to do so we had a school computer, like there was like an after school company your parents work till six and they pick you up after.

02:39:06.000 All they had on that school computer was like games, and the only other uncensored thing was Wikipedia.

02:39:10.000 So like the Wikipedia was far more interesting to me than the games. 0.57

02:39:13.000 Yeah, Wikipedia's commie gay books. 0.95

02:39:16.000 I never turned out like commy and gay. 0.99

02:39:17.000 Like I just read things what they are, and because everybody knows a tall Asian.

02:39:23.000 I do understand.

02:39:25.000 Actually, is a lot of them.

02:39:26.000 I do want to like back up his point with something that like a lot of people miss like the reason why Zoomers are so right wing is because of internet access.

02:39:32.000 It's because we grew up on the internet, and the proof for this is why millennials are like. 0.89

02:39:36.000 Zoomers are not right when Zoomer guys are. 1.00

02:39:38.000 Yeah, but we're the ones that are gonna be actually impossible.

02:39:41.000 Maybe it's like 36% of Zoomers are right wing. 0.98

02:39:45.000 Among men, it's it's it's much higher.

02:39:47.000 Like in the United States, but but so the reason for tricky.

02:39:49.000 The reason why it's like 36% is because uh more than half of men are are right, more than half of Gen Z men are right wing, and almost all of the women are left wing.

02:39:58.000 Yeah, but I think the internet is the reason why they're left wing. 0.99

02:40:01.000 And if they were the women that weren't online, they won't be fucking retarded. 1.00

02:40:04.000 Well, women, well, that's just how women are. 1.00

02:40:06.000 Men will impose their will. 0.99

02:40:07.000 The the women like tend to what I see is that they're not as politically involved as you think. 1.00

02:40:11.000 It's more it's it's more of a group thing, right?

02:40:14.000 Yes.

02:40:15.000 The moment like I've had it myself in relationships where like a a woman, she doesn't agree with your politics, but she likes you, she knows she has a good good thing going with you.

02:40:22.000 Her politics would just move towards whatever yours is. 1.00

02:40:24.000 Of course, it's it's is to whatever is in her best interest, right?

02:40:26.000 That's generally how most people women, women operate politically based on their social circle. 1.00

02:40:31.000 Yeah, so when women go online, they see what other women do and they adhere to that political worldview. 1.00

02:40:36.000 Yeah, men don't.

02:40:38.000 If you balance that out with a healthy social life, right, where they're they're in the real world, the internet becomes secondary.

02:40:43.000 That's not what's happening.

02:40:44.000 What's happening is these girls are taking like the girls are taking the internet culture and bringing it to the real life, and then girls are getting bullied and it's causing a bunch of problems, and 14-year-olds are getting breast implants. 0.99

02:40:54.000 Dude, if you guys only lived without the internet in your life one time, you would understand where we're coming from.

02:40:59.000 Yeah, but yeah, I'm not gonna listen to a dude who sings the hot dog song, bro.

02:41:01.000 But the thing the thing is, like, but uh the thing is I'm looking at older, older generations and they like fumbled.

02:41:08.000 So it's like I'm sitting here as a zoomer and I'm like, okay, well, we're moving in the right direction.

02:41:12.000 I'm looking at like the so-called, like we grew up like what arts and everything, but it's like you're not base.

02:41:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:41:17.000 Like everything you inherited just got worse.

02:41:20.000 It's like base is like my great grandfather who didn't grow up with any technology.

02:41:23.000 That's base.

02:41:24.000 He fought in World War II, that sort of thing.

02:41:25.000 But it's like I don't think growing up with the I think it's been I think it's been worse from a political zeitgeist perspective.

02:41:31.000 It's like everything's just gotten worse until Zoomers is like, okay, now there's an escape patch.

02:41:34.000 We can pull this lever.

02:41:35.000 Claim and Gen Alpha's even more.

02:41:38.000 Come on, Gen Alpha is even more right wing than Gen Z. And I've I've seen it myself.

02:41:41.000 Like when I've looked in some of these comment sections, I'm like, that kid's like fucking 12. 0.99

02:41:44.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:41:45.000 I'm like, and he's like coming out like the most base shit. 0.97

02:41:47.000 Like stuff that's actually like very well articulated too. 0.97

02:41:50.000 I'm like, wow, like because it does allow people access to the knowledge which would be which people previously be gatekeeped behind institutions or you know, old enough yet.

02:41:57.000 We're not going to discuss this yet.

02:41:59.000 So what it develops very well-rounded individuals. 1.00

02:42:02.000 What percentage of those kids though are addicted to like midget furry queer shit? 1.00

02:42:06.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:42:07.000 I don't know.

02:42:08.000 I don't think it's I don't think it's as big as you think.

02:42:10.000 I think it's like isolated.

02:42:11.000 A lot of these kids are pretty like still pretty normal.

02:42:13.000 I think there's like there's an incentive to like doom over young generations.

02:42:17.000 That's like been the case.

02:42:17.000 And I'm not denying that, yeah, there is like weird, like furry tranny, whatever.

02:42:21.000 But um, like uh we interact with them like kids that grow up in like normal environments, they're turning out fairly normal.

02:42:27.000 It's the people that have something external that knocks them off course while they're a child.

02:42:31.000 The internet really rips them apart.

02:42:33.000 Really?

02:42:33.000 Okay, no anime though.

02:42:34.000 Okay.

02:42:35.000 Well, I think animation is banned.

02:42:36.000 Never have fun, but no anime.

02:42:37.000 Anime is demonic.

02:42:38.000 It's like no attack on Titans.

02:42:40.000 Yeah, no, you can't have it.

02:42:41.000 Okay.

02:42:41.000 Anime should be prosecuted.

02:42:43.000 Investment.

02:42:44.000 No, I actually I actually um I'm I'm a big anime fan, actually, but I actually hate American cartoons more.

02:42:49.000 Yes, like Ed and Eddie.

02:42:51.000 Oh, that's my favorite.

02:42:52.000 At Ed and Eddie should have been issue if I was dictator, I'd ban Ed Ed and Eddie. 0.81

02:42:55.000 That's why I am the way I am.

02:42:57.000 Any loony tunes show any loony tunes made before 1945.

02:43:02.000 What about Animaniacs?

02:43:04.000 Any loony tunes made before 1945 are great.

02:43:06.000 Ed Ed and Eddie was a show about three losers that everybody hated that failed every step of the way.

02:43:12.000 And the reason why I hated American cartoons was that it was always about failures.

02:43:16.000 And the reason why I liked anime was that you always had to fight to get ahead.

02:43:20.000 So like Goku, no matter how hard it got, he would always struggle and figure it out and try and get stronger.

02:43:25.000 It's always a hair, too.

02:43:26.000 Naruto was always really great because Nairo Toe was a loser, outcast, orphan, and he became president basically, and he got stronger and stronger.

02:43:36.000 Oh, that was like 15 years ago. 0.84

02:43:38.000 I know, I I stopped.

02:43:39.000 That's a good point. 0.98

02:43:40.000 Yeah, aliens came, and then they went to another dimension, and who knows what the fuck's going on.

02:43:43.000 Well, I mean, like I think what's interesting about those cartoons where they're all they're unremarkable, they're kind of failures, but they still kind of end up in these remarkable situations, and like Ed and Eddie? 0.99

02:43:51.000 Yeah, and like a lot of these should like regular show and otherwise kind of like oh god, fuck like you're I like it. 0.96

02:43:56.000 It was always good. 0.98

02:43:57.000 I don't know. 0.97

02:43:58.000 I never thought it was like complete shit lib or something. 1.00

02:44:00.000 The main characters are detestable, arrogant shitheads. 1.00

02:44:03.000 Like Yeah, but you you're aware of that as a kid. 1.00

02:44:05.000 Like you don't think uh that's I'm gonna model my life off of these kinds of things.

02:44:08.000 I I don't think so.

02:44:09.000 I don't I don't think so.

02:44:11.000 I like I like Justice League, Spider Man, I like Dragon Ball Z. So like for me, anime was because we had Dragon Ball Z on Telemundo.

02:44:19.000 So, you know, the only way to watch it was in Spanish.

02:44:22.000 So like when Vegeta was killing Napa and Napa's like, Borky Vegeta! 0.62

02:44:26.000 I was like, I get this.

02:44:28.000 Uh but you couldn't watch it.

02:44:29.000 And then I brought the car to network, but you had that cable and I didn't.

02:44:32.000 And uh so I didn't watch a lot of anime growing up, but a lot of it is real fucking weird.

02:44:37.000 Real weird. 0.94

02:44:38.000 I mean, uh when I went to Japan, like we had different flavors of masturbation stores in Japan. 0.65

02:44:42.000 We don't want none of that. 0.89

02:44:43.000 No, no, no.

02:44:44.000 But but I mean they goon gallery.

02:44:46.000 It is it it is like segmented in Japan.

02:44:48.000 Like you have these areas that are complete degenerate degenerate cesspits, and then you've got these other kind of like pseudo-utopian reality in this other area is like they do kind of corn it off, which is better than here where like you'll have like some sort of country club, then down the road you'll have some like weird sort of anime show up, like witchcraft stop, like things are just kind of like it's it's everywhere.

02:45:06.000 Yeah.

02:45:06.000 Um I've seen uh uh uh interviews on the street for women asking them if it's okay if they're men cheat with them if it's with like a prostitute, and they're like, yeah, it's fine.

02:45:14.000 Okay, the whole cold.

02:45:15.000 We definitely gotta get the rest of the cars, but I just want to add one thing, and I think um American cartoons is like giving your child acid.

02:45:23.000 And I really mean it.

02:45:25.000 And anime is it's almost like giving them acid, but let me clarify.

02:45:31.000 I don't mean all Cartoon Network was really bad, Justice League was really good, Static Shock was really good.

02:45:36.000 I like those shows, Batman Beyond was a little weird because it was in the future, but still good.

02:45:41.000 Uh the Batman Animated Series, really, really good.

02:45:44.000 These were cartoons that had weird superhero shit and weird stuff, but the characters were adults talking to adults, ex and and talking about perseverance, honor, justice, integrity, Spider-Man was really good.

02:45:57.000 And I look at some anime, and they have a lot of those things like uh Nairo To I thought was good in terms of that messaging, and what messages do I want my kid to pick up? 0.94

02:46:07.000 Honor, integrity, perseverance. 0.53

02:46:09.000 Then you look at like Rocco's modern life, drug trip, meaningless psychotic garbage. 1.00

02:46:14.000 You look at cow and chicken, fucking awesome. 1.00

02:46:16.000 I love cow and chicken, but what the fuck? 1.00

02:46:19.000 That's like that show is for 20 year olds on drugs, not for children. 1.00

02:46:23.000 True. 1.00

02:46:23.000 And the same thing is true for Animaniacs and all of these fucking shows. 1.00

02:46:26.000 But uh, Olivia, did you want to add anything or shout anything out? 0.98

02:46:30.000 Um I will take this opportunity to shout out um my husband's show, Pop Culture Crisis.

02:46:35.000 You guys can find them um Monday through Friday.

02:46:38.000 You guys know that Joe Mary's not there tonight, so I figured I'd take the uh opportunity and you can follow me at Olivia Jasovic on all platforms.

02:46:46.000 3 p.m.

02:46:46.000 You start.

02:46:47.000 3 p.m. Eastern taking it.

02:46:48.000 Thanks for coming.

02:46:49.000 Right on, thanks for coming in.

02:46:50.000 It was a good conversation starter.

02:46:52.000 All right.

02:46:53.000 Next up, we've got portential.

02:46:56.000 What's up?

02:46:58.000 Uh, thanks for taking my question.

02:47:00.000 Today Trump labeled Soros and Reed Hoffman as likely being paymasters behind organized terrorist groups.

02:47:07.000 What is the likelihood of this going through and charges being pressed?

02:47:11.000 Or it turns out these groups are running CIA apps, so nothing comes of it.

02:47:17.000 I would say that we're likely gonna see indictments.

02:47:20.000 I don't think Trump's playing around.

02:47:21.000 I think the indictment of Comey shows us it's happening.

02:47:24.000 The the dam will break, and Bannon was saying end of summer you'll see arrests.

02:47:28.000 So it's just a little bit after summer and Comey indictment happened.

02:47:32.000 I think Trump's gonna put his foot on the gas.

02:47:35.000 And uh I think the reason why it's taken as long as it is, as I've explained the past couple of days is he's trying to massage the culture, not drop a tsunami on the culture.

02:47:43.000 Yeah.

02:47:44.000 If he comes out and says arrest soros now, they're gonna be like, dude, this is crazy.

02:47:48.000 You get a few arrests under the belt, you get a few indictments, you get if you get more evidence, get it in the news.

02:47:53.000 He says it now, let it percolate in the news for a few months, let the cultural commentators bubble up the stories, create this wave, this zeitgeist, then when you make the arrest, everybody expects it.

02:48:05.000 Oh, do you think that um with him um talking about it so much the left it doesn't really matter what um he says and how much he brings it out slowly but surely the left, the democrats are still no matter what, even if it doesn't matter.

02:48:18.000 The point is regular people can't be shocked.

02:48:20.000 Gotcha.

02:48:20.000 If Trump announced right now he's arresting Soros, there's gonna be some like Supreme Mama like, what is going on?

02:48:24.000 Who's that?

02:48:25.000 Yeah, then the left comes out and says it's just an old man.

02:48:27.000 Why is Trump doing this?

02:48:29.000 Let the commentary flow through the culture for three months, then on every TV, you're gonna hear the debate.

02:48:35.000 George source this, George source that people start to form opinions.

02:48:38.000 Then you're gonna get a 50-50 split, and some people are gonna be like, I don't know, I heard about that guy.

02:48:42.000 I think he should go to jail.

02:48:43.000 Then Trump does it, and it's a 50-50 split.

02:48:45.000 Okay, gotcha.

02:48:46.000 Uh I don't know.

02:48:46.000 I I'm kind of like the nothing ever happens, chur, the fell for it again award.

02:48:50.000 I just don't think Trump's got the the balls to do it. 0.98

02:48:53.000 Comey's been indicted. 0.99

02:48:54.000 He's no, I'm talking about this for Soros. 0.93

02:48:57.000 So so someone like Soros who's got uh no, but you said nothing ever happens, but like literally so much shit has happened in the past month, it's crazy.

02:49:04.000 I don't think I yeah, but I don't think it's seismic in the sense that it's gonna fundamentally change American politics.

02:49:09.000 Like I like I was I was mentioning before.

02:49:10.000 This is gonna be another what could.

02:49:12.000 I think you have to really crack down on all of the fundamentally all of these funders have to be cracked down upon.

02:49:17.000 The media has to be held to a new state.

02:49:19.000 Whether they're not allowed to to say these sort of dehumanizing to Kirk's assassination.

02:49:24.000 Are you saying that Trump needs to announce an indictment on all of them at once?

02:49:28.000 I think now that would be a big show of strength, yeah.

02:49:30.000 But that's not possible.

02:49:31.000 Well, I mean, not possible initially, but like I'm getting he's gonna ramp up to it like that that's the thing, but it's like just kind of wait it's gonna happen, wait it's gonna happen.

02:49:39.000 There's a finite amount of attorneys.

02:49:40.000 Uh-huh.

02:49:41.000 They have to generate uh they have to pull together evidence for probable cause hearings.

02:49:44.000 Uh-huh.

02:49:45.000 Then they have to convene a grand jury.

02:49:46.000 There's limited court space.

02:49:48.000 Trump can't just be like, here's 15 indictments of prominent Democrats right away.

02:49:52.000 Not only not only can you not actually legally do it, because there's no mechanism for it, but everybody would say no to Trump if he tried that. 0.93

02:50:00.000 Even if Trump literally had the indictments, they'd be like, Are you nuts? 0.61

02:50:03.000 No.

02:50:04.000 And Joseph, you're calling for him the Trump to go after the sources.

02:50:07.000 Yeah.

02:50:08.000 And he's he's already talking about going after Soros and Hoffman.

02:50:11.000 And designating anti-faterrorist organizations and then three days later saying we will now dismantle the entirety of the leftist.

02:50:17.000 Yeah, but I mean, I feel like like, you know, last week when the the Wals this big momentum and it was like the nation will still in Shock over the assassination. 0.58

02:50:23.000 You could have come out with it straight away and it would have had a much kind of stronger cultural impact and it would have been like, well, we've just taken this man's life and we've celebrated it, cause and effect, right?

02:50:31.000 Like for him to hit hit back hard.

02:50:33.000 He didn't hit the 15 days.

02:50:34.000 15 days a long time in politics, right?

02:50:36.000 Like I mean like look at how quickly things move.

02:50:39.000 15 days is a long time.

02:50:40.000 I can't take the nothing other ever happens argument because literally this this past month has been like this country is forever changed.

02:50:48.000 I don't think it is it's forever changed from the top down though.

02:50:50.000 I don't think Trump has has fundamentally changed any of the nation to prevent these sort of people who are not going to be able to do that.

02:50:54.000 They're talking about making a Charlie Kirk silver dollar.

02:50:57.000 Yeah.

02:50:58.000 Like the nature of this country has changed.

02:51:00.000 Liberals are posting in defense of Charlie Kirk.

02:51:03.000 Now don't get me wrong.

02:51:04.000 Yeah, but it's form form not function, right?

02:51:05.000 Like, what do you mean?

02:51:08.000 Trump declared uh uh uh uh anti-fat terrorist organization and indicted James Comey in the in the span of like three days.

02:51:14.000 Yeah, but we'll have to see I'll have to see how it develops, but I just don't think it's gonna be some.

02:51:20.000 You got internet brain, bro.

02:51:21.000 Perhaps, perhaps.

02:51:22.000 So like when you when you when you when when it's not just internet brain, but I I make this point quite a bit.

02:51:28.000 When you read history books, history is condensed.

02:51:30.000 And this has caused a kind of and and for lack of a better word, I don't mean this derisively, a delusion where people look at what is happening around them and think nothing ever happens because you read a history book and it's like Hitler rounded up the Jews, then he invaded Poland, then he invaded the, you know.

02:51:46.000 Of course.

02:51:47.000 But it's like actually that was f like the American American Revolution was 20 years.

02:51:51.000 I'm I'm talking in terms of like political momentum, right?

02:51:53.000 Like there's not that many people today go on X on the timeline, not that many people talk about Charlie Kirk being killed, right?

02:51:58.000 Like it it does just because people ask him Internet brand like this.

02:52:02.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:52:03.000 You said people aren't talking about Charlie Kirk being killed?

02:52:05.000 Like it's it's not all all over the timeline like it was last week.

02:52:08.000 Yeah, it still is for me.

02:52:09.000 I see a lot of it.

02:52:10.000 Yeah.

02:52:10.000 Still my YouTube feed and and my X timeline is literally like still every third post is Charlie Kirk.

02:52:16.000 Really?

02:52:17.000 Okay.

02:52:17.000 I mean the Jimmy Kimmel thing.

02:52:18.000 Yeah.

02:52:19.000 I mean it's so like that.

02:52:20.000 But the investors are now suing Jimmy Kimmel, so that the Charlie Kirk is in every article.

02:52:25.000 I mean, I feel like the outreach energy really kind of came to a like that could have been harnessed a lot better.

02:52:30.000 Like the he could have used that push for hard hard policy making and be like, yeah, well, this is why, while while it was still in the public psyche.

02:52:36.000 I I get the it's not in as strong of a position as it was last week.

02:52:39.000 People it was much more on the minds of people last week.

02:52:41.000 I think we can agree on that.

02:52:42.000 I don't get why.

02:52:43.000 I don't agree.

02:52:43.000 I don't get why you didn't do it like immediately.

02:52:45.000 Just like look, I visited what was that.

02:52:47.000 I think that's like an opinion with no distinction.

02:52:49.000 It's like uh he could have done it, perhaps, maybe, I don't know.

02:52:52.000 We don't know what would have happened.

02:52:53.000 I think that in terms of it are things happening.

02:52:57.000 Well, aside from the fact that Charlie Kirk's assassination is one of the most shocking things this country has seen in in 70 years, things happen.

02:53:04.000 And uh then the uh then Jimmy Kimmel getting pulled off the air in a terror attack on an ABC station.

02:53:09.000 The amount of happenings that have happened that have are fundamentally rearranging politics in this country have been terrifyingly fast is pat in these in this past these past two weeks.

02:53:19.000 Is that gonna stay?

02:53:20.000 Or is it just gonna be okay, I need to be seen to be doing something, and then you know, six months down the line, there's no James Comey was just indicted.

02:53:27.000 There's another I'm saying that there's another foreign conflict, other things going on in the world, then suddenly the there's nothing.

02:53:35.000 It's not an argument for nothing ever happens, it's an argument of we don't know what happens next.

02:53:38.000 Yeah, but I'm saying like I do I do do I think in his head he's gonna go like I'm gonna go for Soros, I'm gonna make sure he's indicted, I'm gonna put 100% into this.

02:53:45.000 No, I think it's more of like lip service.

02:53:47.000 I don't think he's I don't think he's fully sold on the idea.

02:53:49.000 I would call that normalcy bias.

02:53:50.000 Uh perhaps.

02:53:51.000 Donald Trump just declared Antifa a terrorist organization and then indicted James Comey in the span of a couple of days, and you're like, Yeah, but he'll stop here.

02:53:58.000 Well, uh that there's no evidence to suggest that.

02:54:01.000 I haven't seen him go further.

02:54:02.000 I uh I I I mean, well, of course you haven't because he's as far as he's gone.

02:54:05.000 Yeah.

02:54:06.000 So if in three days so it's Antifa is a terrorist organization, then I am filing an executive order to have all governments dismantle the mechanisms of the left, and we're gonna indict James Comey, and next we're coming after Reed Hoffman and George Soros, and you're and you're going, he's not going fast enough.

02:54:24.000 I'm like, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

02:54:26.000 In fact, I think he's going too fast.

02:54:27.000 Really?

02:54:28.000 Yes.

02:54:28.000 The mechanisms of law for these indictments, we don't have enough courtrooms and grand juries and attorneys to go as quick as he's actually going.

02:54:34.000 When he instructs all government to go after all of these these agents, uh all of these uh uh nonprofit agencies, whatever, and at the same time trying to deport all of these people, sending the military out, he's stretched way too thin on this one.

02:54:47.000 And and the idea that nothing's happening is crazy.

02:54:50.000 Like this nothing ever happens argument, it's like, wow, I never would have thought that there'd be three terror attacks in three weeks, followed by three massive governmental reactions.

02:55:01.000 We're uh the Jimmy like these past two weeks have felt like a year.

02:55:05.000 Jimmy Kimmel getting taken off the air, brought back the the the FCC argument.

02:55:10.000 It is insane the amount of things that have happened in such a condensed amount of time.

02:55:13.000 Do you think it's just pressure valve, though?

02:55:14.000 That's my that's my skepticism.

02:55:16.000 I perhaps this is also as a break.

02:55:18.000 You look at the American federal government, you think like infinite resources, they can get whatever they want to do, could get done possible.

02:55:23.000 Reality on the ground, I'm not well versed enough.

02:55:25.000 I mean you may be completely correct about the court thing.

02:55:28.000 But like I feel like to some degree it is gonna be a pressure valve because what what benefit is it to Trump as an individual to get involved in all these indictments long term when his his term ends in in in a few years, he he wants to solve the immigration thing, he wants to leave his legacy.

02:55:42.000 I don't think he's gonna cross the Rubicon on that level.

02:55:45.000 I just don't.

02:55:46.000 I feel like it's with within his self interest.

02:55:49.000 I'm looking at the Let's just put it this way Trump is an individual.

02:55:51.000 Trump is you're watching Trump with a pickaxe chip away at uh a giant lodestone, and you go, yeah, but sooner or later he's gonna stop.

02:56:01.000 That's your argument.

02:56:04.000 The rhetoric just wasn't hard enough.

02:56:06.000 We are watching Trump swing the pickaxe, and you're like, yeah, but he's gonna stop.

02:56:09.000 And I'm like, okay, well, he's doing it.

02:56:11.000 His rhetoric just didn't seem hard enough.

02:56:13.000 It didn't seem like someone who was fully involved and committed to I really want to dismantle it.

02:56:16.000 He didn't seem outrageous.

02:56:17.000 He ends up going on this tangent about the uh the the autism thing.

02:56:21.000 I've got a big I've got I've got a big announcement on Monday.

02:56:23.000 Why do you want him to go uh go balls to the wall on for Charlie's memorial at that time?

02:56:27.000 Because I feel like that's the one.

02:56:28.000 That's not even possible.

02:56:30.000 Well, yes, he's not going hard enough.

02:56:31.000 He says, No, no, no, but I'm but I'm I'm saying like the the argument right now is that Trump is literally doing it, and you're like, yes, but he'll stop.

02:56:38.000 And I'm like, okay, if you think so.

02:56:40.000 There's no evidence to actually suggest that, other than opinion speculation, which is fine.

02:56:43.000 I'm not saying you're wrong.

02:56:44.000 I'm saying I am watching Trump do a thing.

02:56:46.000 He has said he's going to continue.

02:56:48.000 He's actually swinging the pickaxe harder than we've ever seen swung.

02:56:51.000 I don't understand why that is evidence that he will not do more.

02:56:55.000 It's like the idea that it it's Trump never does anything.

02:56:59.000 He just did all of this crazy things.

02:57:00.000 Yeah, well, he's not gonna do more, and it's like, but he keeps doing more, so I don't I don't I don't I don't know, I don't know.

02:57:05.000 I just if it feels like normalcy bias to me.

02:57:08.000 Perhaps.

02:57:09.000 Like we are we are dealing with in this in these past few years, more things have happened than like a hundred years of American history. 0.98

02:57:15.000 It's been fucking nuts. 0.98

02:57:17.000 That's the meme. 0.98

02:57:17.000 That's the joke that so much is happening internationally and nationally. 0.98

02:57:21.000 I mean, not only he he bombed several narco boats, redirecting American uh uh warfare towards the fentanyl. 0.59

02:57:30.000 You've you've got the deployment of the National Guard, the Marines, the legal battles over there.

02:57:33.000 You now have the federal indictments, you've got the the targeting of Adam Schiff and Letitia James through Bill Poulty. 1.00

02:57:39.000 Like Trump's doing so much fucking shit. 1.00

02:57:41.000 I'm like, wow, at this I said last week, what did I tweet? 1.00

02:57:45.000 At this pace, we'll see arrests by next week.

02:57:48.000 I was right.

02:57:49.000 To be fair, they didn't arrest Comey, they indicted him.

02:57:52.000 Yeah.

02:57:52.000 But that was the point.

02:57:53.000 And so we are Thursday, and my tweet was correct.

02:57:56.000 And it was funny because I tweeted hello with a retweet, and people are like, what are you saying?

02:58:00.000 And I'm like, maybe I know things.

02:58:03.000 I mean, I think I think also I'm just kind of thinking, I'm very emotionally charged on this in the sense that like it was going this way anyway.

02:58:11.000 A lot of people saw this sort of stuff happening.

02:58:12.000 Like preemptively, they were using this dehumanizing language, nothing was done, people are still deplatformed.

02:58:18.000 It's like that should have been undone prior to that.

02:58:21.000 Like we saw the way that this was gonna manifest, and now it's like just crack down on it.

02:58:26.000 And I feel like a lot of Americans, a lot of conservatives around the world, a lot of people on the right are like, can you just like because they would crack that the left would come down on this like a ton of bricks in a way that wouldn't be okay, we're indicting some people.

02:58:38.000 They would just go hard line, we're gonna ban these right-wing terror groups, and they they'd have a plan that'd be put into action the same day.

02:58:44.000 This, okay, he's done the executive order, but as we were discussing earlier in the show, what can actually be done about it?

02:58:48.000 Well, we don't know.

02:58:49.000 So to me, that's that's lip service because there isn't an actual plan to really go, okay, we need to dismantle these people, dismantle their funding.

02:58:56.000 You say, okay, there's gonna be indictments, but it's not gonna be fast enough for for these people.

02:58:59.000 We see that the ice facility was attacked.

02:59:01.000 It's still ongoing.

02:59:02.000 Lives are being lost.

02:59:03.000 People are living in fear.

02:59:04.000 Do something about it now because this is impacting the quality of life.

02:59:08.000 What should he do?

02:59:08.000 I mean, should he wait?

02:59:10.000 I got an idea.

02:59:10.000 Should he instruct all government agencies to target the infrastructure of the left and shut it down and arrest them?

02:59:16.000 Yeah.

02:59:16.000 He he did that.

02:59:17.000 He did that earlier.

02:59:19.000 We'll see if it produces fruit.

02:59:21.000 Is it is is it like fully?

02:59:22.000 Is that that the main focus?

02:59:24.000 He said all government agencies.

02:59:26.000 Okay.

02:59:27.000 Executive order to go and start dismantling the financial structure of leftist organizations, leftist terrorism.

02:59:34.000 Well, we'll see how it looks by their fruits, you shall know them.

02:59:36.000 Be interesting.

02:59:37.000 I'm I I've just I've seen Trump say things before, and I'm being skeptical.

02:59:41.000 Um I I I am again.

02:59:43.000 Well, let's go.

02:59:44.000 Let's get that last colour Port Central.

02:59:47.000 Did you want to shout anything out?

02:59:48.000 She'd become American.

02:59:53.000 Uh, shout out to Tate for his low T Maga males. 1.00

02:59:56.000 I have him take El Rai yogurt in improved metabolism, gut barrier to circular size, and sperm quality.

03:00:03.000 See it on Dr. Burke's channel.

03:00:04.000 I'm taking it myself and it's good stuff.

03:00:06.000 Right on.

03:00:07.000 There you go.

03:00:08.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

03:00:09.000 All right, hey.

03:00:12.000 Well, I'm gonna uh say this.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 26, 2025

Trump DOJ Indicts James Comey, The ARRESTS Have BEGUN | Timcast IRL

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