Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump ENDS All DEI Departments, FIRES Staff, Deportation HAVE BEGUN w-Matt Walsh | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Donald Trump has ended all of the DI programs.

00:00:10.000 He has nuked all of the diversity employees, the DEI employees in the federal government.

00:00:15.000 Now, he hasn't fired them.

00:00:16.000 I say nuked because they've been put on paid leave, which kind of irks me, but at least they're not there anymore.

00:00:21.000 What we're seeing now is they're trying to rename and hide these staffers across federal agencies.

00:00:27.000 I hope Trump is able to get through this and figure out...

00:00:31.000 I mean, this is malevolent.

00:00:33.000 There's one instance, we have the tweet where a post, There's a chief diversity officer who gets renamed a senior officer because they're trying to protect people's jobs, and that is in defiance of executive order, which is insane.

00:00:45.000 So we've got that story, of course, and here's a big one.

00:00:48.000 Deportations have begun, and the DOJ will investigate and prosecute any local officials who obstruct the deportation process.

00:00:56.000 So a lot of stuff going on.

00:00:58.000 We've got the layoffs at CNN. Everyone's laughing about that.

00:01:01.000 And TikTok is reportedly banning...

00:01:04.000 Free Palestine.

00:01:05.000 They're claiming they're not.

00:01:07.000 But people are posting videos showing that they have, so maybe it's all just fake news.

00:01:11.000 But we'll break all of this down.

00:01:13.000 It is only the second day, and Donald Trump has done, I guess technically it's the third day, Donald Trump has done many things.

00:01:20.000 Many things so far, keeping his promise.

00:01:22.000 Of course, we talked about the pardoning of Ross Ulbrich the other day.

00:01:24.000 So we'll get into all that stuff, and we'll talk about how he is taking back the government.

00:01:28.000 He's also rescinded the executive order creating the equal employment opportunity in federal government, which is crazy, because it wasn't a law, it was an executive order.

00:01:37.000 Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and buy coffee.

00:01:41.000 I'm willing to bet Ian's got no coffee left.

00:01:43.000 Okay, Ian's graphene dream has 494 bags left.

00:01:47.000 So, I don't get it, Ian.

00:01:50.000 You sold 5,350 bags in a month.

00:01:53.000 This time it's been about two weeks and you've sold 1,600 bags already of this coffee.

00:01:58.000 I think it's a quality product with good branding.

00:02:01.000 Well, all right.

00:02:02.000 That explains it.

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00:02:48.000 This week we've had three episodes of the Green Room Uncensored Members Only show.

00:02:53.000 Yesterday's was kind of nuts with Dominic Tarczynski.

00:02:55.000 He's a European Member of Parliament.

00:02:57.000 He's from Poland.

00:02:58.000 He's talking about what Poland does to keep their country safe.

00:03:00.000 And I highly recommend it.

00:03:02.000 And you'll understand why it's uncensored.

00:03:04.000 And today we sat down with Angela McArdle and talked about the parting of Ross Ulbricht, her meeting with Donald Trump, and we get into the weeds on all of that stuff and a bit about the libertarian philosophy.

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00:03:22.000 So, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, and joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Matt Walsh.

00:03:29.000 Hey, good to be here.

00:03:30.000 Good that I didn't have to trek through the wilderness to find you this time, so right down the street from us.

00:03:34.000 I will say that I don't want to get into a big argument right off the bat, but your 28th Amendment, I had declared a different 28th Amendment, so we've got a bit of a conf.

00:03:41.000 Mine was...

00:03:43.000 Summary execution for people who ditch their shopping carts.

00:03:46.000 You've got the chicken thing.

00:03:47.000 We've got to figure that out.

00:03:48.000 We can discuss the shopping carts later.

00:03:51.000 I totally agree with you about that.

00:03:52.000 Society is better the more people that return their shopping carts.

00:03:56.000 I've been on that for...

00:03:58.000 For years.

00:03:59.000 I didn't know that, but I completely agree with you.

00:04:01.000 The Aldi situation where you put the quarter in the cart, you have to put it back?

00:04:04.000 No, no, no, no.

00:04:04.000 A functioning society does not need financial incentives.

00:04:08.000 I prefer punishment.

00:04:10.000 I'm on board with it.

00:04:12.000 So my 20th Amendment is the right to keep bear and breed chickens, so it's a bit more wholesome, but okay.

00:04:18.000 We'll have the debate.

00:04:20.000 Angela McArdle's also hanging out.

00:04:21.000 Thanks for having me back.

00:04:23.000 Right on.

00:04:24.000 Who are you?

00:04:24.000 What do you do?

00:04:24.000 Oh, I'm the chair of the National Libertarian Party, the broker of deals, freer of peoples.

00:04:32.000 Freer of peoples. 0.98

00:04:33.000 That's good.

00:04:34.000 And you are largely responsible for the pardoning of Ross Ulbricht, which has every libertarian throwing their hat in the air and cheering.

00:04:40.000 That is correct.

00:04:42.000 Super excited about that.

00:04:43.000 Still lobbying for a few other people, including Roger Ver.

00:04:47.000 Right on.

00:04:48.000 Nice.

00:04:48.000 That's cool.

00:04:49.000 Shane's hanging out.

00:04:50.000 What's up?

00:04:50.000 Congrats, Angela.

00:04:51.000 Thank you very much.

00:04:52.000 That's amazing.

00:04:52.000 We were in the room at the Libertarian Convention when Trump made that promise, so it's awesome to see him fulfill it.

00:04:57.000 I am Shane Cashman, author and host of Inverted World Live every Sunday at 6. What's up?

00:05:01.000 Oh, I'm happy to see both you guys.

00:05:03.000 Angela, congrats on everything, man, since last I saw you and having the baby and everything, rock and roll.

00:05:08.000 And Matt, nice.

00:05:09.000 I haven't seen you since the documentary, Am I Racist?

00:05:12.000 So good to see you again.

00:05:13.000 Thank you.

00:05:13.000 Appreciate it.

00:05:14.000 It was great, man.

00:05:14.000 I haven't actually seen the documentary, but every time I see clips, I'm like, I loved Borat.

00:05:18.000 I was crying in tears in the theater.

00:05:20.000 The fight scene.

00:05:21.000 It's just so good.

00:05:22.000 I hear a lot.

00:05:23.000 Okay, anyway, but Angela, what's your Twitter account?

00:05:25.000 Because I'm about to tweet this out.

00:05:26.000 It's Angela4LNCChair.

00:05:28.000 Thank you.

00:05:29.000 All right.

00:05:29.000 Phil Labonte.

00:05:30.000 Hello, everybody.

00:05:30.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:05:31.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.

00:05:33.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:05:35.000 Let's go.

00:05:36.000 Here we go, ladies and gentlemen.

00:05:37.000 The story from USA Today.

00:05:39.000 Trump rolls back DEI across the federal government.

00:05:43.000 Is your workplace next?

00:05:45.000 I love this because this has been the new narrative.

00:05:47.000 After Trump basically said...

00:05:49.000 All DEI employees, like if you are working in these departments, you are now on leave.

00:05:55.000 Your office is hereby closed.

00:05:57.000 And now the narrative has become, is he going to bring this to the private sector?

00:06:01.000 I don't know that the president has the authority to do that.

00:06:04.000 You know, Joe Biden famously tried to mandate vaccines for everybody.

00:06:07.000 I think he was trying to go through OSHA or something.

00:06:09.000 Was that what it was?

00:06:10.000 It was OSHA. Trump, I think, may actually be able to do something on this very simply by instructing the appropriate law enforcement To enforce the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

00:06:22.000 That is, any private business that utilizes protected classes in their hiring will be in violation of the law, and that means DEI is de facto gone.

00:06:33.000 I mean, DEI is totally illegal.

00:06:35.000 If you look at the laws on the books, discriminating based on any immutable characteristic is illegal in the United States.

00:06:43.000 The fact that it has been around this long is a testament to the fact that, honestly...

00:06:48.000 The left has been so powerful in the United States, even though they'll scream and cry about how they're marginalized, etc.

00:06:55.000 That has been the status quo for the better part of two decades, probably the better part of the past 40 or 50 years.

00:07:03.000 California has it codified in state law.

00:07:05.000 So it'll be very interesting to see what happens there, the battle of Trump v.

00:07:09.000 Newsom.

00:07:09.000 This is what you need.

00:07:11.000 Because the thing with executive orders, of course, and the worry is that they're great in this case.

00:07:17.000 But then the next guy can come and the next Democrat can come and just reverse everything just as quickly as Trump is wiping out whatever Biden did.

00:07:23.000 The same could happen to him.

00:07:25.000 And that's why you need Congress to come in behind these executive orders and codify them into law so that it's not quite so easy to just wipe them out from existence.

00:07:33.000 And that can be done easily with this DEI stuff.

00:07:36.000 And although it is, to both of your points, it is already very much illegal to do this.

00:07:41.000 This is racial profiling, racial discrimination.

00:07:45.000 You could still have a federal law that bans this explicitly on the basis that it's a human rights violation because you're discriminating against people based on their race.

00:07:56.000 He got rid of affirmative action and contracting for the federal government, too.

00:07:59.000 Good.

00:08:00.000 Yeah, that stuff should be illegal.

00:08:01.000 It's remarkable to me that in the 60s, we're like, hey, maybe we shouldn't have this discrimination stuff.

00:08:06.000 And then shortly thereafter, they said...

00:08:08.000 Maybe we should bring it right back on top of the existing law banning it. 0.79

00:08:11.000 The thing about discrimination is, yeah, if you say people of that kind can't do this, that's discrimination.

00:08:18.000 But also, people of that kind get this.

00:08:20.000 That's also discrimination.

00:08:20.000 It's positive discrimination.

00:08:22.000 So it goes both ways.

00:08:24.000 I think it's fascinating, too, because you were right that Trump has already done more in two, three days than Biden did in four years.

00:08:32.000 Trump has also arguably done more in two or three days than he himself did in four years in his first term.

00:08:39.000 Of course, a lot has changed, and he's learned a lot from the first term.

00:08:43.000 He's got a much better team.

00:08:44.000 But the other thing, too, is that, and this was always the irony of him being labeled a dictator, is that in his first term, he was the opposite of it.

00:08:50.000 In fact, if anything, he had the opposite problem.

00:08:52.000 He erred too much in the opposite direction in that he was very shy about wielding his executive power.

00:08:57.000 This time around, he realizes that, hey, I have this power.

00:08:59.000 I can use it.

00:09:00.000 And so I'm going to.

00:09:01.000 It was to the point where it was a meme.

00:09:03.000 People were saying, people on the right were saying, please give us the Trump that the left swears that he is.

00:09:09.000 Give us the authoritarian Trump that the left thinks he is.

00:09:12.000 But when you say Trump did more in two days than Biden did in his entire presidency, the issue I take with that statement is that Biden was effectively rolling backwards in his wheelchair down a hill, and Trump is actually climbing the hill.

00:09:25.000 You know what I mean?

00:09:26.000 So I would argue Biden did a whole lot to damage and burn this country.

00:09:30.000 That's fair.

00:09:31.000 Yeah.

00:09:31.000 So Trump did more in two days to help the country.

00:09:35.000 Joe Biden did literally nothing.

00:09:37.000 What, ATM fees was a proposal of his?

00:09:39.000 There's got to be one nice thing.

00:09:41.000 At least one nice thing.

00:09:42.000 Yeah, the ATM fees.

00:09:43.000 He paid off my student loans.

00:09:44.000 I didn't ask.

00:09:45.000 I didn't sign up for anything. 1.00

00:09:46.000 I just got some stupid check in the mail. 0.99

00:09:48.000 You paid your loans for 20 years, so you get all your money back. 1.00

00:09:51.000 And now you get to pay for it as a taxpayer.

00:09:53.000 I mean, egregious.

00:09:54.000 I thought it was reversed.

00:09:55.000 Yeah, I didn't get that.

00:09:55.000 They turned to zero.

00:09:57.000 I was like, thanks for the 11 grand, dude.

00:09:59.000 That's not a nice thing.

00:10:00.000 No, it wasn't, but he did it.

00:10:01.000 Not to everyone else.

00:10:03.000 I don't know how to rectify it.

00:10:04.000 I think people need to understand that Robin Hood wasn't stealing from the rich to give to the poor.

00:10:08.000 He was stealing from the government.

00:10:09.000 He was the sheriff who was collecting all the taxes.

00:10:12.000 And so in this instance, what Ian is referring to is...

00:10:16.000 Quite literally, the government's stealing from the poor to give to the highest income earners in the country.

00:10:22.000 If you want to correct it, the IRS will accept money.

00:10:25.000 I can just send them a chat.

00:10:26.000 You can just send them the chat.

00:10:28.000 Shane, on the Green Show earlier, you were saying that Trump wouldn't...

00:10:32.000 I've heard this sentiment online, too, is that if he had gotten to be president in 2020, he wouldn't have had this zell.

00:10:37.000 He wouldn't have had this...

00:10:38.000 I saw Andy Nose say that.

00:10:39.000 He had to go through the trials and tribulations of the last four years, I think, to get the Trump we got the last two days.

00:10:45.000 He wouldn't have had the same team behind him either.

00:10:48.000 Or the Senate?

00:10:49.000 Or Congress?

00:10:50.000 I mean, come on.

00:10:51.000 It's almost as if he went through divine trials to earn and understand his place, narrowly avoiding death, but by the turn of his head, that made him a forceful president.

00:11:02.000 And we've only seen a couple days.

00:11:03.000 That's why his portrait looks the way it does.

00:11:06.000 I think it's a really good representation of the hero's journey, and I don't necessarily think that Donald Trump is coming in to save every single person in the country, but I do think he's coming to redeem the boomer generation. 0.77

00:11:16.000 I think that's a big part of this, is he's like, we are going to fix a lot of the things that the boomers did direct the country. 0.99

00:11:21.000 You know, what matters to me a lot is the pardoning of Ross Ulbricht, and I know for libertarians it's largely about the core issues of the case.

00:11:29.000 To me, those matter.

00:11:31.000 But what makes me a bit more emotional here is that Donald Trump, of all the things he promised, the DEI firings, these people are in his way.

00:11:40.000 Trump has an agenda.

00:11:41.000 He wants to secure the border.

00:11:42.000 He's got a mission that he believes in.

00:11:44.000 And he's going to fire these people, not just because he promised to do it, but he promised to do it because these are the people who obstructed him and wronged him.

00:11:50.000 He already got the Libertarian vote.

00:11:52.000 He already won.

00:11:52.000 He's not running for office again.

00:11:54.000 So what does he really benefit by taking the political risk of making this move to keep his word in part in Russ Ulbricht?

00:12:00.000 Well, he offered his word.

00:12:02.000 And what I see for America is Barack Obama made promises.

00:12:06.000 Promises not kept.

00:12:07.000 Wars, expansion.

00:12:08.000 George W. Bush, wars and expansion.

00:12:10.000 And Joe Biden, wars and expansion.

00:12:12.000 And Donald Trump said, I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong, he had a statement on this.

00:12:17.000 They asked him and he said, I don't really care about the guy, but I promised I'd do it, so I did.

00:12:21.000 And that matters.

00:12:22.000 That matters for the spirit of this country and what young people are going to see in their president.

00:12:26.000 I said, I'll do it, and I did.

00:12:27.000 That's why I would also, on the pardon point, his first three days, who could complain?

00:12:32.000 He's done a lot.

00:12:34.000 But we should also mention that in the pardoning, so far, there's been one omission that I very much hope that this is coming soon, which is the pro-lifers who are sitting...

00:12:48.000 We're sitting in federal prison right now.

00:12:50.000 Some of them are already out, but they're on probation, and they've got this on the record.

00:12:53.000 Some are actually in federal prison right now.

00:12:55.000 Has he made promises to pardon them as well?

00:12:57.000 Yeah.

00:12:57.000 Yeah, he has.

00:12:58.000 And for my money, what happened to the J6ers, we all know, was outrageous political persecution. 0.90

00:13:06.000 What happened to these pro-lifers is the worst of all.

00:13:08.000 This is the worst political persecution that we've seen in modern history, in my opinion.

00:13:11.000 What is it?

00:13:13.000 Well, the Biden administration decided that they were going to enforce the so-called You know what that is?

00:13:22.000 I've heard of it a couple years ago or something.

00:13:24.000 Yeah, it's the freedom of access to clinics' entrances.

00:13:27.000 So, this is a 90s-era law that made it a federal crime to basically come within X number of feet of the entrance of an abortion clinic if you're a protester and you're blocking the entrance.

00:13:42.000 But the thing is that...

00:13:44.000 And that law already had a million problems because you're treating these clinics like this special category of building and giving them the kinds of protections you don't give any other building.

00:13:53.000 But then also this law supposedly offered the same protections to pregnancy resource centers, to crisis pregnancy centers, to pro-life centers.

00:14:03.000 So that was their way of dealing with the inequality of the law.

00:14:07.000 They said, okay, well, yeah, this will also apply to pro-life centers.

00:14:10.000 Well, the problem is that they don't enforce that.

00:14:12.000 And then under the Biden administration, you had these pro-abortion radicals that were literally setting pro-life pregnancy centers on fire, and there was no attempt to track these people down at all.

00:14:26.000 And instead, they decided to go after these pro-lifers, some of whom, there was a case in Tennessee where they were sitting, I believe, outside the entrance of the abortion clinic and praying.

00:14:39.000 No violence occurred.

00:14:42.000 You know, they never touched anyone.

00:14:45.000 They didn't commit any violent act at all.

00:14:46.000 They weren't even shouting at anybody.

00:14:47.000 They were just sitting there praying.

00:14:49.000 And some of these are like elderly women. 0.97

00:14:51.000 And the Biden administration comes along and charges them with federal crimes and throws them in federal prison for it.

00:14:57.000 Unconscionable.

00:14:57.000 I don't think they were even actually physically obstructing anyone from entering other than just being in space.

00:15:03.000 You'd have to walk around.

00:15:04.000 You just have to walk around them.

00:15:06.000 They weren't even, you know, it wasn't like chaining themselves.

00:15:10.000 To the door or something.

00:15:12.000 It's not like Black Block where they're locking elbows and blocking you from moving.

00:15:15.000 That's why I say they, in any other context, like if they had done that outside of a Home Depot, at worst they get loitering charts, a misdemeanor.

00:15:25.000 It only is a federal crime because the federal government has decided to treat abortion clinics like these sacred temples, which is how the left.

00:15:34.000 Because they are, in their opinion.

00:15:36.000 There were some protesters who were inside the lobby.

00:15:40.000 Of an abortion clinic, and they were, I think they were praying, and they were instructed, you have to leave or else, and they got charged under this as well, which should just be a trespass slap on the wrist.

00:15:49.000 That should be a trespassing charge.

00:15:50.000 Do we know who's advocating for them right now?

00:15:53.000 I mean, there's, you know...

00:15:55.000 Get pardons?

00:15:55.000 Yeah, there's been, there are many pro-life organizations that have been advocating, and to Trump's, and by the way, Trump has said that he's going to pardon them, so I'm not, there's no indication that he's just going to ignore them and betray them.

00:16:05.000 I'm not claiming this is some great betrayal.

00:16:08.000 Maybe he's waiting.

00:16:09.000 The March for Life is on Friday.

00:16:10.000 Maybe that'll be the time.

00:16:11.000 That would be a great time to do it.

00:16:13.000 I'd like to see it, but the trade-off is he's got to pardon Joe Biden.

00:16:17.000 Joe's not going down for any crimes anyway.

00:16:19.000 He's done.

00:16:19.000 He's going out.

00:16:20.000 He's chilling.

00:16:21.000 Might as well.

00:16:22.000 I mean, I don't know if I call that a...

00:16:24.000 Ian has just offended everyone.

00:16:25.000 Okay, no, no, no.

00:16:26.000 I'm not offended.

00:16:27.000 Why Joe?

00:16:28.000 Because it kind of also indicates he's done something wrong, which is cool.

00:16:30.000 It's a little left field, but I think if he were to do that and say, you know, you did a lot of terrible...

00:16:36.000 I think he should pardon him for specific crimes.

00:16:38.000 Actually, that would be more fun.

00:16:39.000 You know what, Ian?

00:16:40.000 I think you're right, actually.

00:16:42.000 I saw it on Twitter.

00:16:42.000 It's not my idea.

00:16:43.000 But I'll say why. 0.94

00:16:44.000 I think Joe Biden is an awful person who has committed a lot of crime. 0.73

00:16:47.000 Yeah. 0.66

00:16:47.000 You look at the crime family, 10% for the big guy, the Burisma scandal. 0.66

00:16:51.000 But he is very old and unaware of his surroundings.

00:16:56.000 If Trump were to issue the pardon, acting very magnanimous, it would also require Biden to make an admission of guilt for the things that he did that Trump would pardon him for.

00:17:05.000 And we're not going to put him in prison.

00:17:06.000 I mean, he's 80-something.

00:17:08.000 And Massey was saying last night that if you bring these people before Congress, now like Anthony Fauci, and you ask him, like, why did you lie about gain of function?

00:17:16.000 You said there was none when there was.

00:17:18.000 And if he still lies, then they can hit him, even after the pardon, now they can hit him again for perjury.

00:17:22.000 So he's got to kind of admit, like, this is why I lied to the public.

00:17:25.000 I love the sentiment, but Joe Biden needs continued ridicule in my mind.

00:17:29.000 But that's what the pardon is.

00:17:30.000 Pardoning Fauci?

00:17:32.000 I don't know.

00:17:33.000 I can't get on board with that.

00:17:34.000 I agree that if you pardon him for specific crimes, pardon him for, you know, crimes of corruption, you have to get the exact crime.

00:17:41.000 He's going to be called out.

00:17:42.000 On this day, in this act, da-da-da-da-da-da.

00:17:44.000 We'll pardon you for it.

00:17:46.000 If he says, I pardon Joe Biden for the quid pro quo in Ukraine, threatening to withhold congressionally approved loan guarantees, that's illegal, but he did it.

00:17:54.000 We all know he did, so I pardon him for it.

00:17:56.000 That would be the first troll pardon.

00:17:58.000 Right.

00:17:58.000 Sounds like he's trolling.

00:18:00.000 I like troll pardons.

00:18:03.000 There's a guy who might need a pardon next month, Dr. Eitan Haim.

00:18:07.000 He's a Texas doctor who's a whistleblower at the Texas Children's Hospital.

00:18:10.000 Oh, yes.

00:18:11.000 He's at a trial next month.

00:18:13.000 They're trying to put him away for 10 years.

00:18:15.000 State or federal?

00:18:15.000 I believe so.

00:18:16.000 I believe so.

00:18:18.000 They say he's violating HIPAA violations.

00:18:20.000 We should look it up.

00:18:21.000 But that guy needs help.

00:18:22.000 This one's a bit more controversial.

00:18:24.000 Derek Chauvin.

00:18:25.000 I've seen his name being tossed around.

00:18:26.000 I think he tweeted it, maybe.

00:18:28.000 There's federal and state charges.

00:18:29.000 Trump absolutely should pardon Chauvin on the federal charges.

00:18:31.000 There's a lot of evidence that...

00:18:34.000 George Floyd had fentanyl, norfentanil, I think it was caffeine, nicotine, and THC in his system, five drugs when he died, that it was a heart attack, not an asphyxiation.

00:18:42.000 And he didn't get a fair trial.

00:18:44.000 There's no way he got a fair trial.

00:18:46.000 I was going to say, I don't care about any of that stuff.

00:18:47.000 I don't care about the drugs, I don't care about whatever.

00:18:49.000 He didn't have a fair trial.

00:18:50.000 Just on the trial alone, I think that that's, if this is all about undoing the weaponization of the justice system, it should be done on the trial.

00:18:58.000 Let's jump to this next story.

00:19:00.000 It's part of the first one, but it's interesting.

00:19:02.000 Pop Crave has the tweet saying, Donald Trump has revoked the Equal Employment Opportunity Act of 1965. The order prohibited discrimination in hiring an employment based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

00:19:16.000 We have this in the, we have right here, the executive order, ending illegal discrimination and restoring merit-based opportunity.

00:19:24.000 And you can see, while this does cover all the DEI stuff, it includes Executive Order 11246. So what they say over here,

00:19:47.000 basically it says, on September 24th, 1965, Lyndon Johnson issued Executive Order 11246. So this is basically the end of affirmative action in the federal government.

00:20:17.000 It only extends to the federal government.

00:20:19.000 I did not realize that was just an executive order.

00:20:22.000 I thought that was a law.

00:20:23.000 Trump just said, Nah, we out.

00:20:26.000 Done.

00:20:26.000 Yeah.

00:20:27.000 That's pretty remarkable.

00:20:28.000 That's right, right?

00:20:30.000 Brass balls. 0.87

00:20:32.000 You know what? 0.97

00:20:33.000 So this is a thought that I had.

00:20:34.000 It's a question.

00:20:35.000 I don't really know the answer to it.

00:20:37.000 But when you look at all these things that Trump's doing, and he's killing DEI and federal government, he's killing gender ideology and federal government, those two things in particular, I was expecting a nuclear explosion of Rage.

00:20:54.000 A full-on left-wing meltdown.

00:20:56.000 Protests in the street and everything.

00:20:58.000 Over this.

00:20:58.000 And we're not quite...

00:20:59.000 Now, of course, the left is upset.

00:21:00.000 The media is upset about it.

00:21:01.000 But we're not quite seeing the level of rage that I was expecting.

00:21:07.000 And I'm wondering why that is.

00:21:10.000 One theory is...

00:21:13.000 Chris Ruffo tweeted something earlier about how the big tech companies, according to people he's talking to, his reporting...

00:21:21.000 Talking to people at big tech companies, they're going to comply with this getting rid of DEI. And according to him, there's kind of actually a sense of relief that they don't have to pretend to care about this anymore.

00:21:31.000 And then you just get back to hiring people that are good at doing their job.

00:21:34.000 So I wonder if for some on the left, if maybe that applies more broadly and that there's some on the left anyway who they're a little bit relieved to be done with this stuff because they never really believed in it.

00:21:46.000 And the idea that they had to get up in arms because a man wants access to the women's changing room. 0.53

00:21:52.000 And so now it's like they don't have to pretend to care about that anymore.

00:21:55.000 So is there a slight sense of relief among some on the left?

00:21:58.000 I agree.

00:21:59.000 We're liberators now for them.

00:22:01.000 I agree at the institutional level for some of these companies.

00:22:04.000 They're thinking like, you know, we were getting these calls from the Biden administration.

00:22:07.000 They were telling us we had to do these things.

00:22:10.000 And that's there.

00:22:10.000 But the question of where is the day of rage people on the streets?

00:22:14.000 Here's a couple potentials.

00:22:16.000 One, it's really cold out.

00:22:17.000 And so with the polar vortex coming in, it was snowing in Louisiana.

00:22:20.000 It was snowing in Florida.

00:22:23.000 Oh, that's the apocalypse for them.

00:22:25.000 So it's really cold.

00:22:26.000 And the truth is, when a light drizzle happens, the protesters don't go outside.

00:22:33.000 So it could be that maybe in the next few months we'll start to see Antifa come out in the streets.

00:22:38.000 There were some protests in Washington.

00:22:40.000 They attacked a TPUSA event and they smashed a window.

00:22:43.000 But it was relatively small.

00:22:45.000 I wonder, however, though, with Trump winning the popular mandate, and did you guys see this?

00:22:50.000 For the first time, Trump's aggregate favorability has been favorable.

00:22:56.000 Nice.

00:22:57.000 So the first was in December by like 0.2, now it's 0.3.

00:23:00.000 In his political career, Trump is now slightly favorable.

00:23:03.000 I wonder if...

00:23:04.000 You know, the thing about Antifa and these far leftists is that they're always a fringe minority of violent groups, and they rely on the mass of normie, general liberal disdain.

00:23:16.000 Yes.

00:23:17.000 So if a thousand people come out to protest, and their intention is to wave little American flags and pride flags or whatever, Antifa goes into those groups and uses that as cover to be violent, causing chaos.

00:23:29.000 But if most of those people don't want to protest for these things anymore, Antifa has no cover.

00:23:35.000 It may be the left is very mad, but they were never very powerful to begin with.

00:23:40.000 I think they're agitators and they get people riled up.

00:23:43.000 And I think the normies and the people in the middle are just fatigued and they're over it.

00:23:48.000 Wokeism is a sad, like it makes people sad.

00:23:52.000 It's a bad vibe.

00:23:53.000 And this whole election has been a vibe check.

00:23:56.000 People are like, you know what, I think I want to be happy and not always be scolding the sad-looking white dude in the cubicle next to me.

00:24:03.000 We were talking earlier about that, the vibe change, the era of America is good again.

00:24:11.000 It's really tangible, and I think that it's something that a lot of people feel nowadays.

00:24:17.000 People are tired of looking at the United States, which is, I don't care.

00:24:21.000 I have no problem saying this.

00:24:22.000 I don't care what anyone says.

00:24:23.000 The United States has been an aggregate good for the world.

00:24:27.000 Even if only because the U.S. keeps the seas open for trade, it has been an aggregate good for the entire world.

00:24:35.000 And most people in the United States want to believe that the country they're from, the United States, is a good place full of good people and has good intentions.

00:24:45.000 And with the left being so ascendant for the past...

00:24:48.000 Possibly 20 years, particularly since the Gulf War, I think people are tired of feeling like the United States is bad and they're ready for some optimism and some belief that the country still is a place that does good things.

00:25:05.000 And if you look at just how many illegal aliens have come to the United States in the past four years, that says something about the rest of the world and the United States in comparison.

00:25:15.000 I'm curious what's going to happen with colleges.

00:25:17.000 Because, like, what Matt's saying with the tech world, they're being liberated.

00:25:21.000 I feel like the colleges are going to, they're recalibrating until you get crazier.

00:25:24.000 Well, so Elon tweeted something that when you look at the appearance of certain words in academic journals, I think it was journals, you can see this massive spike of all these woke terminologies and phobias and whatnot.

00:25:35.000 And then in the past year, it's started to decline.

00:25:37.000 Oh, nice.

00:25:38.000 So we may see some recoiling.

00:25:40.000 Because when I was a professor and, you know, applying for other professor jobs, all the applications at the bottom, they were saying they're hiring all these people.

00:25:47.000 Except white guys.

00:25:48.000 Straight white guys.

00:25:49.000 I'm curious how this is going to affect that.

00:25:50.000 If it's going to make them worse?

00:25:51.000 Trump should issue an executive order that these universities, they receive federal funding.

00:25:57.000 He should instruct the DOJ to go after anyone for violating the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

00:26:01.000 That DEI stuff is illegal.

00:26:03.000 It's always been illegal.

00:26:05.000 Yeah, it's a disease in the colleges.

00:26:07.000 Let me show you this tweet from NWokeness that's in line with...

00:26:09.000 This is interesting.

00:26:10.000 The ATF was just caught rebranding their chief diversity officer to...

00:26:14.000 He wrote chief officer, but it's senior officer.

00:26:16.000 Take a look at this.

00:26:17.000 On 1-20-20-25, Lisa Boykin of the ATF, the chief diversity officer, one day later, she's a senior executive office of the director.

00:26:27.000 Get her out. 1.00

00:26:27.000 This is what they've been doing. 1.00

00:26:29.000 In the ATF. Right, and we heard the FBI had preemptively ended their DEI department.

00:26:35.000 What they really did was they reassigned all of those employees all over to the FBI. They're trying to hide their ideologue Marxist staff.

00:26:45.000 West Point got in trouble for doing it.

00:26:46.000 They were getting sued.

00:26:47.000 They rebranded the DEI department, and they were just doing it on a different name.

00:26:50.000 They've got to make sure that we have people of all different race, creed, and color burning down the next Waco. 0.99

00:26:55.000 I think it's really important to them.

00:26:59.000 Trump and his administration understand that this is not over on day one.

00:27:05.000 And that when he signs an executive order saying DEI is over, they say, we're not DEI. We're the Equal Employment Accessibility Department.

00:27:12.000 That's another name they're using now.

00:27:14.000 The Equal Employment and Accessibility.

00:27:16.000 Yeah, I mean, the left is very good at rebranding.

00:27:21.000 They have an idea.

00:27:22.000 It's really unpopular.

00:27:24.000 It becomes even more unpopular, and then they rebrand the idea, and then they get a second life out of that idea because they rebranded it.

00:27:30.000 So that is what you have to look out for, which is why you're also going to have to fire the people at the top of these agencies and departments and then install people who are not motivated to go.

00:27:42.000 And find a way to recreate.

00:27:44.000 It's like how the Department of War became the Department of Defense.

00:27:46.000 To your point, Matt, about the left rebranding, that's what the whole woke movement is.

00:27:52.000 When it stopped being functional for the power dynamic to go from the working class to the proletariat to the bourgeoisie, from the working class to the property, then...

00:28:06.000 People like Herbert Marcuse had to go ahead and find new people with the revolutionary energy.

00:28:12.000 I think it was in One Dimensional Man, he was talking about how because capitalism delivers the goods, he said, and he came right out and he said that, because capitalism delivers a good life for people.

00:28:27.000 The working class no longer has the revolutionary energy, and so he specifically said that he was going to have to go to the ghettos, and you're going to have to find, essentially turn it from working class versus the proletariat to race-based.

00:28:42.000 Yep, race, gender, the whole thing. 0.78

00:28:45.000 Exactly, and so it's just a repackaging of the same garbage that the left's been selling for... 0.99

00:28:52.000 150 years? 0.99

00:28:53.000 Or whatever?

00:28:54.000 I see it in the corporate sector, too.

00:28:55.000 Monsanto sold to Bayer.

00:28:57.000 Like, they were getting trashed in 2010, 2011, and then all of a sudden, I don't know how it happened, but no more Monsanto.

00:29:04.000 I mean, it still exists, but it's Bayer now.

00:29:06.000 Rebranding is the way you do it, man.

00:29:08.000 You can keep the same infrastructure going, but just give it a different name and then hope people forget about it.

00:29:13.000 The vaccines change their names.

00:29:15.000 Well, once again, that's the strategy of when you make a product that no one likes...

00:29:20.000 Actually, who's a...

00:29:21.000 Okay, I shouldn't go there.

00:29:22.000 There's a pop star who had put out a bunch of music, and I'm not going to say her name, and everyone hated it.

00:29:28.000 She rebranded and changed her name to a fake name, and now she is famous.

00:29:32.000 She is very famous and loved.

00:29:34.000 Yeah.

00:29:34.000 She's awesome, right?

00:29:35.000 Can I say who it is?

00:29:36.000 Who is it?

00:29:37.000 Yeah, I wanted to know.

00:29:38.000 Who?

00:29:38.000 Lana Del Rey.

00:29:39.000 Yeah.

00:29:39.000 What was her name?

00:29:41.000 Awesome.

00:29:41.000 What was her name before?

00:29:42.000 I don't know where her name was before.

00:29:44.000 Wow.

00:29:44.000 I forget.

00:29:44.000 I don't care.

00:29:45.000 That's all you got to do.

00:29:46.000 You go to a marketing firm, and they say, change your name.

00:29:48.000 A fake name?

00:29:49.000 Your name didn't fit.

00:29:50.000 Like a fake sounding name? 0.99

00:29:50.000 Yeah, with your sad goth girl poppies. 0.99

00:29:53.000 It worked.

00:29:53.000 Listen, for everyone out there that's curious, the days of Taylor Swift are over.

00:29:58.000 It is now the era of Lana Del Rey.

00:30:00.000 I like it.

00:30:01.000 I like it.

00:30:02.000 Let's jump to this next story from Fox News.

00:30:04.000 They say DOJ to investigate state or local officials who obstruct immigration enforcement.

00:30:09.000 Memo.

00:30:10.000 Trump DOJ wants federal prosecutors across the country to investigate sanctuary city officials who obstruct immigration enforcement.

00:30:17.000 Okay.

00:30:18.000 This is fantastic.

00:30:19.000 What does it mean?

00:30:20.000 I want to pull their funding.

00:30:21.000 I want to see a real standoff.

00:30:23.000 I mean, you're a libertarian.

00:30:24.000 Financially, I want to just pull the funding.

00:30:25.000 Well, I'm okay with that too, but what this says to me is it's illegal to aid and abet criminals.

00:30:31.000 And California is in violation of federal law, and the people who aid and abet the criminals should be charged in whatever capacity we have codified.

00:30:38.000 Are we going to do that?

00:30:39.000 Are we going to start arresting governors and mayors?

00:30:43.000 I mean, I'm getting a little excited.

00:30:46.000 What is Michael Malice's t-shirt, governors for Gitmo?

00:30:50.000 Gitmo.

00:30:50.000 I think there's, normally I would say if a state made a choice, interstate, just...

00:30:55.000 Leave it to the state.

00:30:56.000 Unless it's a horribly egregious moral dilemma.

00:30:59.000 But because these people cross state lines to get there.

00:31:01.000 That's a problem.

00:31:02.000 Fair enough.

00:31:02.000 And also, the United States is charged with protecting the borders, first of all.

00:31:07.000 And second of all, the United States also has the Supremacy Clause.

00:31:11.000 Laws that are made by the United States take supremacy over state laws.

00:31:15.000 So when the United States says it is illegal to enter the United States...

00:31:20.000 Without proper documentation, that's a law that the whole country has to abide by.

00:31:26.000 I don't necessarily know that you arrest a governor, but you pull funding from California.

00:31:32.000 Pull that funding.

00:31:32.000 They have so much money, and they brag about how much better they are.

00:31:35.000 We have so much money.

00:31:36.000 We have so much industry.

00:31:38.000 Put your money where your mouth is.

00:31:39.000 I don't think we're going to end up arresting governors, but the left has set the precedent here.

00:31:46.000 I mean, they arrested a president.

00:31:47.000 A former president tried to put him in prison.

00:31:50.000 So, why not?

00:31:53.000 I mean, they've done the most extreme version of that that it's possible to do by trying to put a president in prison.

00:31:59.000 Why do they protect murderers who are here illegally?

00:32:03.000 I understand there's sob stories, there's people who bring their kids across, you're 11 years old.

00:32:09.000 Why are we protecting murderers?

00:32:12.000 It's called restorative justice.

00:32:13.000 There was also, what was it, 154 Democrats voted not to deport Illegal immigrants who are accused of sex crimes.

00:32:20.000 But aren't legal murderers also bad? 0.91

00:32:21.000 Like, murder bad.

00:32:23.000 This is, like, such a very simple...

00:32:26.000 We had Ro Khanna on, and he voted against the Lake and Riley Act.

00:32:30.000 And he said his concern was that it allows the deportation of someone just for being arrested.

00:32:36.000 And, you know, we didn't really get into it, but I'd like to say to him at least now is, but they're here illegally. 0.99

00:32:41.000 Right.

00:32:41.000 So, that's what we do when...

00:32:45.000 This is the crazy thing.

00:32:46.000 The argument is, the Lincoln Riley Act is, anyone here unlawfully who also commits these crimes, burglary, theft, or whatever, if you are arrested, then they are to be detained by Homeland Security and deported.

00:32:58.000 And his argument is, but they've not been tried.

00:33:01.000 They've only been arrested.

00:33:03.000 We're not deporting them for committing burglary.

00:33:05.000 We're deporting them because we've arrested them.

00:33:08.000 They are in violation of the law already, and we deport people here illegally. 1.00

00:33:12.000 That's it.

00:33:15.000 Well, there we go.

00:33:17.000 And to your question about why would you protect murderers, part of it is on the left, it's like they don't, they're not, and we've seen this, they don't get very angry about violent crime.

00:33:27.000 It's crazy.

00:33:29.000 Because they, and the reason for that is that, I mean, we had this notion, you're going back, you know, even when I was a kid, we heard about, you don't hear the term very often anymore, a bleeding heart liberal.

00:33:39.000 And the idea was that if you're on the left, your problem is that you're overflowing with too much compassion.

00:33:45.000 You're too sensitive.

00:33:47.000 And then we got to the sensitive snowflake thing.

00:33:52.000 But that was never true.

00:33:53.000 It's actually on the left, they are cruelly indifferent, in fact, to suffering.

00:33:58.000 And so when they hear about a violent murderer...

00:34:01.000 They don't feel the innate rage and anger that everyone at this table feels because they just don't care that much.

00:34:07.000 And then that's why their compassion for criminals, it's a very cheap compassion because they can talk about forgiveness and let them be rehabilitated.

00:34:15.000 Well, it's because you're not actually angry about what they did.

00:34:19.000 Wanting to punish criminals, wanting to harshly punish criminals, that comes from a place of love and a thirst for justice that I think they just don't...

00:34:28.000 Most modern...

00:34:29.000 Leftists don't value life.

00:34:31.000 I think, yeah, they hate humanity.

00:34:33.000 And they'll stand on dead bodies to promote whatever they want.

00:34:35.000 Why is it just like a disassociative, like it hasn't happened to me, so it doesn't sound that bad from a distance?

00:34:41.000 I'd like to point out an example that Phil had tweeted before, where they show results of a study that found that conservatives tend to have compassion for their friends and their family and the people around them, and Democrats and liberals tend to have compassion for inert objects like rocks.

00:34:55.000 I am not being mean.

00:34:57.000 That's the literal language of the study.

00:34:59.000 Democrats have compassion for inert objects.

00:35:02.000 That's what it said.

00:35:03.000 And how do we clarify that into layman's terms?

00:35:06.000 Democrats care about, don't blow the mountaintop off that, you know, it's bad.

00:35:12.000 We don't want that mountaintop being damaged.

00:35:13.000 Don't chop down those trees.

00:35:15.000 Conservatives are like, please stop abusing these children.

00:35:18.000 In Starship Troopers terms, the left loves the bugs.

00:35:22.000 Yes, that's a really good way to put it.

00:35:24.000 It's like this inversion, because the natural human thing is to care the most about the people that are very closest to you.

00:35:33.000 So your spouse, your children, if you're married, you care the most about them in the entire world, of all people.

00:35:42.000 You prioritize them.

00:35:43.000 And then from there, you have kind of your extended family, your friends, and then your community, your immediate community, and then your state, and then your country.

00:35:51.000 And then far, far down the line, you care about all the nations of the world.

00:35:56.000 And that's the natural thing.

00:35:58.000 But on the left, they've kind of demonized that approach.

00:36:01.000 Because if you look at it that way, then you're small-minded, and you're bigoted, and you're nativist, and you're all these things.

00:36:06.000 And so they flip it around so that their compassion immediately goes to...

00:36:11.000 It goes to the broadest place.

00:36:13.000 The furthest away.

00:36:13.000 Right.

00:36:13.000 They talk about the world and humanity and people.

00:36:16.000 And they don't have children, which helps with the inversion because there's nothing close to them to love.

00:36:21.000 And the thing is that even climate, caring about that, it means nothing and it costs you nothing because I can't do anything about the climate.

00:36:32.000 I can't do anything about humanity.

00:36:33.000 I can't save humanity.

00:36:34.000 I can care for my children and that takes daily effort and sacrifice.

00:36:40.000 And so they'd rather not do that.

00:36:42.000 Instead, they'd rather sit back and just talk in the abstract about how they love all people everywhere.

00:36:47.000 And they don't.

00:36:48.000 I was thinking about that.

00:36:48.000 I spend any amount of time with many of these people.

00:36:51.000 I'll give a shout out to one of my favorite countries, Sweden.

00:36:54.000 I know it's been a while since I was there, but they love to talk about how they're not racist and they're very progressive.

00:37:00.000 And it's actually one of the most racist countries I've ever been to.

00:37:04.000 They isolate their migrants into ghettos. 0.61

00:37:06.000 They move them over decades into these isolated little communities where they are effectively outside of Swedish society.

00:37:15.000 And even white Americans that I met who had moved to Sweden who were fluent in Swedish said they couldn't get jobs because Swedes are actually very xenophobic.

00:37:25.000 They don't like people from outside their country. 0.99

00:37:27.000 They pretend to.

00:37:28.000 Sorry, Sweden.

00:37:29.000 That's what people told me.

00:37:30.000 This is just like, look, we care about them.

00:37:32.000 We gave them their own place to live.

00:37:34.000 This is what many leftists do.

00:37:35.000 They say, oh, we care so much of the plight of the oppressed people of color.

00:37:39.000 We're going to take them in. 0.67

00:37:40.000 And then once no one's looking, they go throw them in the back.

00:37:42.000 Yeah, they collect them.

00:37:43.000 It's like McDonald's Happy Meal toys.

00:37:45.000 On the drive over, I was thinking about the difference of the left and the right.

00:37:49.000 And I tend to, it's not just the two sides, but in this...

00:37:51.000 Political instance.

00:37:52.000 There's the people that care about the group and the power and the strength of community and group.

00:37:56.000 That's the left.

00:37:57.000 Together we are strong. 1.00

00:37:58.000 That's the fascist crap. 1.00

00:38:00.000 Whatever. 1.00

00:38:00.000 And there is something to that. 1.00

00:38:01.000 A group is way more effective than a single person in a lot of ways.

00:38:05.000 But then on the right, it's more about individual taking care of yourself and your immediate surroundings, which also has value.

00:38:11.000 A lot of value.

00:38:12.000 Because a group is made up of individuals.

00:38:14.000 So if you don't empower the individuals, you have a weak group.

00:38:17.000 A group of weaklings.

00:38:18.000 And you don't want that.

00:38:20.000 But it's also dangerous to be too far right where you're like, look, I only care about my immediate surroundings and I don't care at all about the group because it's very important that we make sure that people aren't crapping in the water upstream because there are people living downstream and one day that's going to come back to you.

00:38:36.000 And there's a balance.

00:38:38.000 There's a fluctuation between, I think, both sides that you have to maintain.

00:38:42.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

00:38:44.000 The other thing about immigration and the compassion of it, How their position is supposedly compassionate.

00:38:51.000 It's very funny to me, in a morbid way, how open these people are about the fact that what they're really concerned about is that they're going to lose their slave labor.

00:39:02.000 We heard it from the woman who gave the fake bishop who gave her sermon.

00:39:08.000 Who's going to mop our floors? 1.00

00:39:09.000 Who's going to pick our crops? 1.00

00:39:10.000 Who's going to shine my shoes if we don't have the illegals here? 1.00

00:39:14.000 That's exactly how they think of it.

00:39:16.000 Even beyond that, a lot of...

00:39:18.000 A lot of the people who come in illegally end up homeless or they live just in hotels.

00:39:23.000 They don't actually have what we would consider a good life here, and I think that all of the NGOs and Democrats know that, and they don't care.

00:39:33.000 How many children were lost coming over that border?

00:39:35.000 Hundreds of thousands don't care. 0.57

00:39:37.000 They don't value the children's lives either.

00:39:39.000 Child abuse and abduction and sexual assault and things like that.

00:39:43.000 It's just we don't talk about that because bringing them over here is for some reason better. 0.63

00:39:48.000 Graph go up.

00:39:50.000 And they can't build a good life in their homes of origin either because...

00:39:55.000 You know, it's kind of like if you listen to the left, they say, oh, well, all these immigrants are coming and they're very useful and they are very skilled and they're doing a lot of important things.

00:40:04.000 Well, if that's true, then what you're telling me is that the countries they're coming from are losing everyone they need to, like, build a functioning society. 0.64

00:40:13.000 So this is a win-win.

00:40:14.000 You send them back there.

00:40:15.000 They can build up their own countries to be this thriving place and we can live in the...

00:40:22.000 I mean, I'm sympathetic to the fact that other countries have really corrupt governments.

00:40:30.000 I think that's a reality, but I don't think that problem is getting solved.

00:40:36.000 We're not addressing any of these root problems.

00:40:38.000 We're just making everything worse.

00:40:40.000 We can certainly solve our problems.

00:40:42.000 Let's jump to the story from CNN, of all sources.

00:40:45.000 U.S. military ordering thousands more troops to the southern border.

00:40:48.000 I believe the number is around 1,500.

00:40:51.000 Donald Trump is certainly taking this seriously.

00:40:53.000 And then we have this tweet from OSINT Defender.

00:40:57.000 CNN is reporting that U.S. Transportation Command has been instructed by the Pentagon.

00:41:02.000 To prepare to use military assets including C-130 and C-17 military transport aircraft for migrant repatriation flights.

00:41:10.000 So Trump ain't screwing around.

00:41:14.000 Wow.

00:41:14.000 I love it.

00:41:15.000 Wow.

00:41:17.000 It's got to be done right.

00:41:19.000 It's got to be done by the book.

00:41:21.000 The last thing we want is when you get operations this large...

00:41:25.000 There's a lot of room for error and abuse, and the margin of error on this one is going to be slim.

00:41:31.000 You cannot be abusing women and children when we're deporting people who are here illegally.

00:41:35.000 That is a nightmare scenario.

00:41:37.000 And the left is going to be looking for their immigrant George Floyd, their Jose Floyd moment. 0.62

00:41:44.000 And you can't give it to them.

00:41:46.000 But this is also going to be...

00:41:49.000 It's going to be very telling because right now the polls show that a strong majority of Americans support mass deportation.

00:41:56.000 70%.

00:41:57.000 That's huge.

00:41:59.000 In America these days, if you can get 70% on anything, that's quite telling.

00:42:02.000 So now we're going to get all of the misery porn from the media and we're going to see all the sobbing migrants. 1.00

00:42:09.000 We're already seeing some of that.

00:42:10.000 They're going to ramp it up.

00:42:11.000 So check the poll.

00:42:12.000 A month from now, I want to see that poll again.

00:42:15.000 If it's still at 70% around there in support, Then the left is done on this issue.

00:42:20.000 They're finished.

00:42:21.000 There's one more thing that I want to say I heard today.

00:42:24.000 They're sending Marines to the border, and they're not sending them as toothless.

00:42:30.000 They're sending them in combat gear, and they have orders that if the cartels shoot at them, they're going to be ordered to return fire.

00:42:37.000 And that honestly is a very good thing in my opinion.

00:42:40.000 I know this is making Angela a little nervy. 1.00

00:42:42.000 A little scary.

00:42:43.000 Look, Mexico is the biggest trading partner.

00:42:45.000 The United States is the biggest trading partner in Mexico has.

00:42:47.000 Mexico has every incentive to stop working with the cartels and start working with the United States to fix this problem.

00:42:58.000 Mexico has been allowing immigrants to...

00:43:01.000 To cross through their country for ages and ages, and they've been shoving people into the United States. 1.00

00:43:07.000 The United States taking a firm stance and saying, you are not sending people into the United States anymore, and we're going to put teeth behind those words is a good thing. 1.00

00:43:18.000 It's a horribly corrupt government.

00:43:20.000 Absolutely. 0.95

00:43:21.000 The border's a mess.

00:43:22.000 When I was in Yuma, you could just see the border agents just let them come over.

00:43:25.000 They throw the ladders, the homemade ladders over the wall.

00:43:27.000 They climb over.

00:43:27.000 They get a ride to the facility and a plane ticket to someone who has a phone, who picks up the phone in any state in this country.

00:43:34.000 And as I bring up as often as I can, thanks to the work of Dr. Phil, many of these people are trafficking children to prostitution.

00:43:42.000 Yep.

00:43:43.000 And CBP knows.

00:43:44.000 They know they're doing it.

00:43:45.000 Yep.

00:43:46.000 So I've gone as far as to say that the officers who have brought a child into this country, seen the phone number on their arm, called it, knowing it was sex trafficking, they should be prosecuted.

00:43:56.000 I think so.

00:43:57.000 I think so.

00:43:57.000 Absolutely.

00:43:57.000 I mean, this is like a real libertarian hotspot.

00:44:00.000 Our party's platform is technically open borders.

00:44:04.000 I think a lot of people are starting to come around, though, because this is insanity.

00:44:08.000 You can't just say, well, we just want to have free movement of people, do whatever you want.

00:44:14.000 Okay, are we talking about literally free movement of people, like we're picking them up and packaging them and selling them?

00:44:21.000 Because that's slavery.

00:44:23.000 We're not pro-slavery.

00:44:25.000 Yeah.

00:44:25.000 I mean, the idea of open borders can be...

00:44:29.000 Great, right?

00:44:30.000 The idea of legalized drugs so that people don't have to go to jail for smoking marijuana sounds great.

00:44:37.000 You've got to have property rights.

00:44:38.000 It doesn't work without property rights.

00:44:40.000 I think both those ideas sound terrible.

00:44:42.000 We have no morals in this society.

00:44:45.000 But the reason that they sound terrible is because you know the ramifications.

00:44:48.000 You know the repercussions.

00:44:49.000 You know what it does to society.

00:44:50.000 And that's the point.

00:44:51.000 The actual application of these things is bad and has really, really, really bad downstream effects.

00:44:58.000 Wasn't it that Austin Peterson got booed when he was asked if...

00:45:04.000 People should be allowed to sell, was it heroin to children?

00:45:07.000 Probably heroin to children.

00:45:07.000 And then you hear libertarians going, boo.

00:45:10.000 Boo, boo, yeah.

00:45:11.000 That is so strange.

00:45:12.000 He said no to heroin to children?

00:45:14.000 Yeah, and he got booed for it.

00:45:16.000 It's because...

00:45:17.000 It's okay to laugh at libertarians.

00:45:20.000 It's okay.

00:45:21.000 You can laugh at us.

00:45:22.000 We have a special term for the people who do that.

00:45:24.000 It's called lulberts.

00:45:26.000 So those are the lulberts.

00:45:27.000 What's the argument for it?

00:45:28.000 Freedom for children?

00:45:31.000 What are they saying in their minds?

00:45:33.000 The government shouldn't do it.

00:45:34.000 The private sector should do it.

00:45:36.000 Okay, then we have to have a moral society and that begins by not booing it.

00:45:41.000 We have a morally bankrupt society.

00:45:43.000 We don't have a moral society.

00:45:45.000 It's a problem.

00:45:47.000 It's a spiritual problem.

00:45:48.000 Doesn't it go back because libertarians, you hear the government shouldn't legislate morality.

00:45:55.000 So is that basically their argument that this is To prevent children from getting heroin is somehow imposing a moral code arbitrarily.

00:46:03.000 But they won't follow it up by saying, and we should shame and ostracize and run out of business anyone who tries to sell heroin to children.

00:46:10.000 Yeah, but the other thing that I don't get, because libertarians believe that there should be some laws, correct?

00:46:14.000 It depends.

00:46:15.000 So there's a lot of anarchists who lump themselves in with libertarianism.

00:46:20.000 So you'll also find just minimal government libertarians.

00:46:22.000 They want police and military just to keep our borders secure.

00:46:26.000 Yeah, well, that's what gets me, is that if you, I guess, if you are rejecting all law entirely, that's a whole different, I think that's insane, but it's a whole different thing, but the don't legislate morality thing never made any sense to me, because literally any law that's ever been passed in the history of mankind, in any country, anywhere, has been a legislation of morality, and that's the basis for, why is something made illegal?

00:46:48.000 Well, because it's bad.

00:46:50.000 Which doesn't mean that every bad thing is made illegal, but that is why it's made illegal.

00:46:54.000 We treat it like property rights issues as opposed to church lady issues, I guess, to put it crudely. 0.80

00:47:02.000 Does that make sense?

00:47:04.000 We actually didn't need laws for a long time.

00:47:07.000 When society was a bit smaller, you didn't need it because people just agreed to function in the society whether something was right or wrong.

00:47:14.000 Or a big guy would come in and beat you up. 0.94

00:47:16.000 Yeah.

00:47:16.000 But sanctioned by the people.

00:47:18.000 Yeah, they just watch it happen.

00:47:19.000 And what happens is, as cultures break apart, and you get many different cultures, you begin to have to write down the way things should be and show them to people.

00:47:32.000 And there's this...

00:47:33.000 I think the guy's...

00:47:34.000 If I get your name wrong, forgive me, I think it's Wade Stotts.

00:47:37.000 He's a commentator.

00:47:39.000 And he made this great video about how a constitution...

00:47:41.000 What does it mean?

00:47:42.000 Where does the word come from?

00:47:43.000 It's what constitutes the people.

00:47:46.000 Most countries didn't write them down because the idea was the people and what constitutes them is known to the people.

00:47:53.000 But in the United States, understanding in the early days that we had so many different states and people lived different climates and everything, they said, we better write this down.

00:48:02.000 So where we are now is actually quite simple.

00:48:05.000 Matt, if everybody shared your moral structure and worldview, you would need no police and no standing armies.

00:48:13.000 The world would be a perfect place if everyone just agreed.

00:48:15.000 Because everyone just admitted that I'm right.

00:48:17.000 Men would handle things. 0.96

00:48:19.000 Women would work the gossip line effectively to keep people in line socially. 1.00

00:48:24.000 Men would take care of the outliers. 0.99

00:48:25.000 The shopping carts would be put away every time.

00:48:28.000 Until someone runs out of food.

00:48:29.000 And then it's like, even if they believe what Matt believes, it's like, hey, give me some food.

00:48:33.000 He's like, hey, it's my food.

00:48:34.000 Let me ask you this, Matt.

00:48:36.000 If you came across someone from your community where you live that you knew...

00:48:40.000 And their house had burned down, and they were desperate.

00:48:43.000 Would you offer them any kind of charity or aid?

00:48:46.000 Sure.

00:48:47.000 And your neighbors would, too.

00:48:48.000 In a just and moral society, where does insurance come from?

00:48:52.000 Original insurance was, when people lived near each other, if my house burns down, you help me rebuild, because if yours burned down, I help you rebuild.

00:48:58.000 We were a community that shared values, shared morals.

00:49:02.000 In the United States, they would go to church every week.

00:49:04.000 You still needed law, though.

00:49:06.000 I mean, even in a just and moral society, unless we're talking about a literal...

00:49:09.000 Utopia, where everybody is perfect and we're connected by a neural net.

00:49:13.000 Or we're talking about heaven.

00:49:16.000 Strong cultural norms.

00:49:18.000 This is a pure hypothetical suggestion.

00:49:23.000 There's no way in reality that literally everyone on this planet would be like, I have the exact moral foundations of Matt Walsh 100%.

00:49:32.000 But I know, Matt.

00:49:34.000 And I believe this is true for many people in the United States of all different backgrounds, but largely of Christians, that if they all shared the same moral values, there would be no need for police.

00:49:46.000 Yeah.

00:49:47.000 Well, I would say, even if they share the same moral values, there certainly is a need for police and laws.

00:49:54.000 So sharing the values, I mean, you can share values, you can have certain values and violate those values and still do bad things.

00:50:02.000 So, someone can have great Christian values and truly believe in them, and then they can go commit murder. 0.91

00:50:07.000 I mean, it can happen.

00:50:08.000 But you never would.

00:50:10.000 Right, I wouldn't, but just because someone does something bad or commits a crime, it doesn't mean that they didn't have those values.

00:50:16.000 It just means they violated those values because we're a flawed, fallen species.

00:50:20.000 So, if everyone shares the same values, you still need law.

00:50:23.000 If we lived in some sort of utopia where everybody shares and actually follows a perfect moral system, Then, in that case, sure.

00:50:32.000 That's what I mean.

00:50:33.000 It's a hypothetical that doesn't exist.

00:50:34.000 And so we write things down because it doesn't exist.

00:50:38.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't think of it as utopia.

00:50:40.000 You know, I'm not ever trying to achieve utopia or anything realistic.

00:50:43.000 I think what I'm trying to do, especially right now, since I've been sort of thrust into this real-world politicking, is what is the bare minimum?

00:50:52.000 And can we shave off? 0.92

00:50:54.000 All of this crap that we've been talking about, where the justice system has been weaponized and abused and it's grown into just this monster. 0.99

00:51:02.000 Like, what is the bare minimum that we can function at? 0.96

00:51:04.000 And what is preventing us from functioning at that bare minimum?

00:51:07.000 Is it hordes of people from another culture who are here trying to take advantage? 0.98

00:51:12.000 People are trying to take advantage of them as they come in.

00:51:15.000 Is it Marxism in academia?

00:51:19.000 What is preventing us from being our very best?

00:51:21.000 I think it's a lack of communication about morality because you can have people try and compensate for a lack of good with more law.

00:51:28.000 And that's a big problem.

00:51:29.000 So you want to shave down the laws to minimum, but also enhance the good.

00:51:33.000 And that's a conversation because it's a group.

00:51:35.000 The group has to agree on that.

00:51:38.000 Let me...

00:51:40.000 I guess whittle that down in another way.

00:51:42.000 You're right.

00:51:43.000 I think there's another way to say it, and it's that the United States has become increasingly less religious.

00:51:48.000 This is a country where the founding documents are largely built upon the Christian moral tradition.

00:51:54.000 Whether the founding fathers were deist, secular, or otherwise doesn't matter.

00:51:58.000 We talk about it quite a bit, but many of the amendments, the ideas of property rights, they are literally rooted in the Christian moral tradition.

00:52:05.000 And over the past several decades, past couple of generations, We have what Dennis Prager referred to as, I think he calls it cut stem or cut flower politics, where we have removed a generation from the roots of this nation, and we hold the flower and talk about how beautiful it is as it withers and dies.

00:52:21.000 Yes.

00:52:22.000 So what you're saying is that we're not having the conversation around morality.

00:52:25.000 Well, it used to be that kids would go to church, and kids would have a moral tradition in their faith.

00:52:31.000 I'm not telling everyone you have to believe in God or be Christian.

00:52:33.000 I'm saying, with that, there were people who grew up and were raised to...

00:52:37.000 Function under a certain structure.

00:52:39.000 We don't have that now.

00:52:40.000 Now kids grow up and they watch a dude dry hump Satan on TV. The morals are just completely gone.

00:52:48.000 Even worse, though, is the fact that we have people parading themselves around as supposed Christians, like the heretic bishop in this city. 0.99

00:52:56.000 They've recreated Christ in their own image. 0.61

00:52:59.000 It's insane.

00:53:00.000 These people think they're Christian and they've mutilated the idea of it. 0.96

00:53:04.000 And it creates this kind of incoherence, which is to your point, that at a certain point it all starts to break down.

00:53:12.000 You have to understand why.

00:53:14.000 You can have laws in place, you can have these principles in place, but why are they there?

00:53:17.000 And even something as basic as the concept of a right, a human right, and we think of this as this universal concept, and we think of it now as a secular concept even, and people who are totally secular and atheists talk about human rights all the time.

00:53:36.000 But all you have to do is just go follow the thread of a human right, just follow it for a few steps, and you get to a point where, wait a second, what does that mean?

00:53:47.000 Where does that come from?

00:53:48.000 A human right in and of itself is a religious concept.

00:53:50.000 Spark of divinity.

00:53:52.000 Right.

00:53:53.000 Because if there is no God, our notion of human rights in this country is built on the idea that there's a creator God.

00:54:01.000 Because we were created by God, we have this inherent human dignity, and from there springs our human rights.

00:54:07.000 Well, if there's no God, then what do you mean right?

00:54:09.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:54:10.000 I have a right.

00:54:10.000 What do you mean you have a right to it?

00:54:11.000 Then a right is nothing but a totally arbitrary thing that was written on a piece of paper, and then the people, what that means is that you could just take it off the piece of paper, and it doesn't make any sense for you to say, well, wait a minute, you took away my rights.

00:54:25.000 And this is why the liberals argue as of the Constitution granted us rights.

00:54:30.000 Yes.

00:54:30.000 As opposed to the reality in which we are endowed by our creative rights.

00:54:34.000 The Constitution recognized our rights.

00:54:35.000 Their rights are connected to false gods. 0.69

00:54:37.000 And they have no moral center.

00:54:39.000 A lot of why people have rejected religion, in my opinion, is because they're rejecting authority and being told by a preacher or a priest, this is the way it is.

00:54:47.000 Because you've seen corruption within churches from time to time.

00:54:50.000 But the thing is, there's always going to be an author in your life.

00:54:52.000 There's always going to be an external authority.

00:54:53.000 And that becomes the television, if you're not careful.

00:54:55.000 When you talk to a lot of atheists and agnostic people, They tend to sound like teenagers that are mad at their dad. 1.00

00:55:05.000 When it boils down to it.

00:55:07.000 And I'm a guy that's generally pretty agnostic.

00:55:10.000 And I still see the impact that religion has.

00:55:13.000 I see the necessity for it.

00:55:15.000 I acknowledge the fact that there's been no human civilization in all of human history that didn't have religion.

00:55:21.000 It's likely that even...

00:55:23.000 Pre-humans like Neanderthals and other human species had religion as well. 0.93

00:55:29.000 So the idea that religion is something that we can just throw away is a ridiculous proposition.

00:55:36.000 And when you listen to people that want to be... 0.92

00:55:41.000 Modern atheists or whatever, they always sound like, I don't need a sky daddy. 1.00

00:55:45.000 It's like, well, now you just sound like a kid that's mad at his dad because he took away his Nintendo.

00:55:50.000 But they want the government to be their sky daddy.

00:55:52.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:55:53.000 It always replaces it.

00:55:55.000 Instead of tower to heaven, tower of Babel, it feels like it's the inverse, like bureaucratic ladder to hell.

00:56:03.000 That's the cultural vibe.

00:56:04.000 Let's jump to the story because it's not all bad news.

00:56:07.000 We got this from the Postmillennial.

00:56:08.000 Pride flags removed from U.S. outposts worldwide.

00:56:14.000 Absolutely great news.

00:56:15.000 Starting immediately, only the United States of America flag is authorized to be flown.

00:56:21.000 Should have always been the case.

00:56:22.000 That's kind of reasonable for U.S. proper bases.

00:56:26.000 What's that guy standing in front of?

00:56:27.000 Is that another country's flag?

00:56:31.000 I hope not.

00:56:33.000 The Trump administration has implemented the new one-flag policy requiring all U.S. embassies and government outposts, both domestic and international, to exclusively fly the American flag.

00:56:42.000 It is absolutely creepy and a bit terrifying that U.S. embassies and outposts were flying a flag of ideology.

00:56:52.000 It's just about sexuality, too.

00:56:54.000 It's super weird.

00:56:56.000 Well, no, they put the black and the brown stripe on it.

00:56:57.000 And often flying them in countries, it's a deliberate act of antagonizing a lot of these countries, countries that don't believe in this nonsense.

00:57:06.000 And this is another one of those things that, you know, it goes to show that what we consider conservative policy ideas, the vast majority of them, are really just common sense.

00:57:16.000 And they have wide approval.

00:57:18.000 Because if you go, I don't care, left, right, center.

00:57:22.000 If someone had no context, and you asked them, well, do you think it makes sense for embassies to only fly American flags?

00:57:30.000 American embassies?

00:57:31.000 Like, almost everyone would say, well, yeah, of course.

00:57:32.000 What else would they fly?

00:57:33.000 What do you mean?

00:57:34.000 And yet, these kinds of things were happening all over the place, and as much as the left talks about democracy and the will of the people, they were happening even though the vast majority of people don't support it, and the only reason they got away with it is because the vast majority of people didn't really know that it was happening.

00:57:48.000 And everybody knows to...

00:57:50.000 Reference the comment that I was just making.

00:57:52.000 Everyone knows that if you put up a flag with a Christian cross on it or anything like that, the left would have had an absolute aneurysm. 0.87

00:58:01.000 And those flags are, without a doubt, a religious flag to the left.

00:58:06.000 So the fact that these things are being taken down, the left is having an absolute fit about it because you're...

00:58:13.000 You're mocking their religion, and they really look like they had conquered Christianity in the United States, which I think would be a terrible thing. 0.86

00:58:21.000 Again, even though I'm generally an agnostic dude, I think that having gender ideology as the religion that the United States worships, I think there's probably nothing that's worse for society, considering what you end up with is cutting the body parts off of children. 0.99

00:58:39.000 Pretty perverse.

00:58:40.000 I think it's reasonable to take religious iconography off of U.S. bases.

00:58:44.000 I don't know what U.S. outposts are.

00:58:45.000 I haven't really heard that term thrown around.

00:58:46.000 I know U.S. embassies.

00:58:48.000 I don't necessarily agree.

00:58:49.000 I actually have no real concern of Christian iconography in government places the way the liberals really do.

00:58:56.000 It's also historical.

00:58:58.000 In our courts, they swear on Bibles. 0.96

00:59:00.000 They offer up other texts.

00:59:02.000 When the president is being sworn in, they offer up a Bible.

00:59:05.000 Oh, they offer it.

00:59:06.000 Yeah, Trump didn't touch the Bible.

00:59:07.000 Yeah, I guess people were upset about that, but whatever.

00:59:10.000 And there's been an effort throughout my life to try and make the claim that the US government should never have these things but are part of our moral tradition.

00:59:19.000 And so if I go to a court building or I go to an embassy and there's something related to Christianity, it's just normal.

00:59:25.000 It's been that way in this country for a long time.

00:59:27.000 It is the root of our morality in this country.

00:59:29.000 To replace that with an insane ideology that harms children is devastating.

00:59:35.000 So I think the philosophy...

00:59:38.000 The philosophical approach I've been taking, the way I've been approaching this for the past, I guess, year or so, has been more post-liberal.

00:59:47.000 This idea of these universal principles apply to all things is just incorrect.

00:59:51.000 And this, as an example, came when I was debating Bobby Sauce on the issue of TikTok.

00:59:56.000 And he said, look, we don't believe in big government, so we shouldn't give the government the power to do these things.

01:00:01.000 And my point was...

01:00:03.000 There are some things that are morally good.

01:00:05.000 There are some things that are morally bad.

01:00:07.000 Just because we ban one doesn't mean we ban all.

01:00:11.000 People make the argument that if we implement a law that will stop the left from doing this one bad thing, later on they can use it against us.

01:00:20.000 And it's like, okay, well, they're doing a bad thing now.

01:00:23.000 We're not going to let them keep doing it just because one day someone might do another bad thing.

01:00:26.000 We stop things we don't like that are bad, and that is they're flying these flags of ideology that are Abhorrent.

01:00:34.000 And have been destructed to this country.

01:00:35.000 Stop.

01:00:36.000 Christianity? 0.62

01:00:36.000 I mean, largely good for this country? 0.62

01:00:38.000 Well, okay, this is a little bit of a tangent, but what's up with the cross?

01:00:41.000 Like, it's what they killed the dude with.

01:00:43.000 If your prophet was murdered with a gun, you wouldn't put a gun on a flag and, like, fly that thing, so he wasn't their prophet.

01:00:50.000 Well, it's...

01:00:51.000 Jesus Christ's sacrifice and death was the salvation of mankind, and so that's what the cross signifies.

01:01:00.000 It's salvation.

01:01:02.000 And a stark reminder of what was sacrificed, which was pretty heavy stuff there.

01:01:07.000 But if Jesus was like, I'm not going to do it, I'm not going to do it, and they're like, then die, and they put a gun to his head and killed him, and then they put the gun on the flag, I'd be like, bro, he still got sacrificed.

01:01:15.000 First of all, you're arguing something entirely different.

01:01:17.000 I know, it's not even the point of the story.

01:01:19.000 I want to stress this, that there is this, as I mentioned, this long-standing effort my whole life to say that religion should be entirely separate, the separation of church and state and all of these things.

01:01:31.000 But it is, in our Constitution, in our founding documents, literally, what helped the Founding Fathers craft this country that worked so well was quite literally the Christian religion.

01:01:43.000 I am not a Christian.

01:01:44.000 I don't follow the same beliefs as Matt, and some people have told me I will burn it out, whatever, but I understand logic.

01:01:49.000 And I can look at the history of this country and see where we are and why we got here and the beliefs that led us to this place and say, those were good things, largely.

01:01:56.000 Some things we progressed upon.

01:01:58.000 We got rid of slavery.

01:01:59.000 We did things like that.

01:02:00.000 Which means we've improved upon ourselves.

01:02:02.000 How did we come to the point where we developed these ideas, wrote them down, and it's our moral tradition?

01:02:08.000 So, again, if I see a school and they tell kids, like, here are some of the things that we believe, we want to put the Ten Commandments in a courtroom or whatever, I'm like, yeah, I don't care.

01:02:16.000 It's the Ten Commandments.

01:02:17.000 I'm also not offended by Hammurabi's code.

01:02:20.000 So much of this is also historical.

01:02:23.000 It's like we just threw out common sense and wisdom.

01:02:26.000 And these things, to your point, like...

01:02:29.000 You don't have to like it.

01:02:30.000 It doesn't matter how you feel about it.

01:02:32.000 It is just a fact that our system of government is built on Christian ideals.

01:02:38.000 It just simply is.

01:02:39.000 And so this is part of our history.

01:02:41.000 It's part of our identity as a nation, which is why you're exactly right that there is a major difference between a freaking pride flag and a cross.

01:02:50.000 The pride flag has nothing to do with the history of this nation.

01:02:53.000 Nothing good has ever been achieved.

01:02:56.000 Under the pride flag.

01:02:58.000 Now the cross, and I know you were being a bit, you know, you didn't mean it totally seriously, and I hear this kind of comment, well, why the cross?

01:03:07.000 And you say it in kind of a flippant way, but it's a valid question.

01:03:12.000 Why that?

01:03:13.000 And the answer is that Christ's death and resurrection was our salvation.

01:03:19.000 But also, the cross itself, and if you're not a Christian, you don't get it.

01:03:23.000 It doesn't mean a lot to you.

01:03:24.000 I understand that.

01:03:28.000 But our civilization was built under this symbol.

01:03:33.000 People marched under this symbol, not just in this country, but across the Western world.

01:03:38.000 And we live in the civilization that we do, and every good thing that we have in our lives is really because people believed in the cross, and they went out and they did incredible things, and they fought and they died for the sake of the cross.

01:03:55.000 And so, I think that even if I wasn't Christian, and it's hard for me to put myself in that mindset, but even if I wasn't Christian, as someone who respects history, and who is a big fan of Western civilization, the civilization I live in, it's a great civilization, I would still have a respect for the cross for that reason alone.

01:04:16.000 It radically changed.

01:04:17.000 Exactly my position.

01:04:19.000 Christianity radically changed the way that people deal with each other, our human interactions. 0.96

01:04:24.000 Women were treated much better through Christianity. 0.83

01:04:27.000 We were no longer considered like cattle.

01:04:30.000 It doesn't mean that we're the same as men or that we need to be weird, freaky, only fans, sex people. 0.96

01:04:37.000 Slaves were treated better. 0.99

01:04:38.000 Oh, that's so terrible.

01:04:39.000 Well, it was a precedent across the entire globe.

01:04:43.000 And slavery was abolished.

01:04:45.000 Through Christianity. 0.83

01:04:47.000 The reason why we live in this country right now and why this whole hemisphere is not currently dominated by stone-aged, savage cultures who rip the hearts out of their enemies and eat them and kill and enslave women and children. 0.96

01:05:05.000 The reason why that's not the case is that people came here primarily To spread the Christian gospel.

01:05:13.000 People need to watch Apocalypto.

01:05:16.000 Oh, it's great.

01:05:16.000 Mel Gibson does a real good job, doesn't he?

01:05:18.000 I believe in the power of Christianity and the general ethos of the meaning of the story and everything, a lot about it.

01:05:24.000 But I'm also nervous about icons and worshipping icons because the whole Elon threw his hand out and it's like, bro, it's the meaning behind the symbol.

01:05:31.000 Like the swastika was the wheel of life. 0.86

01:05:32.000 It was the turning of life.

01:05:33.000 The Hindu symbol of peace or whatever it meant.

01:05:36.000 But it was a healthy...

01:05:38.000 Symbol of growth and change and then this wild ideological party came along and co-opted it and made it seem like An evil symbol.

01:05:46.000 I've got to implore you to maybe perhaps watch some George Carlin comedy.

01:05:50.000 I love that.

01:05:51.000 1992, I think it was 1992 special, where George Carlin literally says every racial slur imaginable and then ends by calling Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor the N-word.

01:06:00.000 And let me finish.

01:06:02.000 And everyone laughs.

01:06:04.000 And then George Carlin says, it's not the word, it's the man behind them.

01:06:08.000 And you know that I don't actually feel that way about these guys.

01:06:12.000 The point he was making.

01:06:13.000 Was that the actions of the individual matter when Elon Musk grabs his chest and then grunts and throws his arm up.

01:06:20.000 He says, my heart goes out to you.

01:06:22.000 And he throws his energy out to the field.

01:06:24.000 But it doesn't matter if it resembled the Roman salute.

01:06:27.000 It matters the man behind what had happened.

01:06:30.000 And Elon was not hailing Hitler or praising an ideology.

01:06:34.000 He was literally saying, thanks to all of you, my heart goes out to you.

01:06:37.000 So we ask ourselves, what is the intention and who is the man behind the words?

01:06:43.000 Elon Musk was not in the process of being a white supremacist.

01:06:48.000 And no one really believes that Elon Musk is a Nazi.

01:06:50.000 Of course he's not.

01:06:51.000 And if we lived in a saner culture, then we could just have a laugh about it.

01:06:56.000 It's objectively kind of funny that he made that gesture and what it meant for him was, I'm sending my heart out to you.

01:07:04.000 That's just funny, so you laugh at it, and then you move on.

01:07:08.000 But to your point about icons, it goes back to, Not all icons are the same.

01:07:14.000 But also, this is just part of what it means to be a human being.

01:07:19.000 Symbolism and icons, it means something to us.

01:07:23.000 I think it's one of the things that makes us people.

01:07:25.000 A symbol means nothing to a monkey or a rhinoceros.

01:07:30.000 It means nothing to them.

01:07:32.000 But to human beings, we imbue these things with meaning.

01:07:35.000 Now, if you want to get really...

01:07:37.000 You know, utilitarian about it, and I was like, well, why?

01:07:40.000 I mean, why that exact collection of lines and stuff that looks like, like, why does that matter?

01:07:47.000 You know, and you could dissect it to death, but I think sort of the answer is, well, just because we're human.

01:07:52.000 I mean, it's because we're human.

01:07:54.000 Sacred geometry of things, like cymatics, where vibration will cause certain shapes.

01:07:58.000 Human, written language is...

01:08:01.000 These are all symbols.

01:08:03.000 Letters are just symbols that mean something else, that stand for something else.

01:08:07.000 It's actually quite simple.

01:08:08.000 I can explain to you iconography.

01:08:10.000 They're simply human compression files.

01:08:14.000 That's it.

01:08:15.000 When Matt Walsh sees the symbol of the cross, all of the information related to Christianity is...

01:08:22.000 It lights up in his mind.

01:08:23.000 I think about the Hebrew alphabet, the ancient...

01:08:26.000 The ancient texts of the Hebrew alphabet, I think they were sitting, like if you study cymatics where you'll change the frequency and you have like sand on a vibrating membrane, you get these wild shapes and patterns will appear depending on what frequency.

01:08:36.000 So these dudes are on a beach and they have a goatskin and they're playing the drums and they're throwing sand gets on the drums and they go, oh, they make a certain sound and then it makes a certain pattern.

01:08:45.000 And they're like, whoa.

01:08:46.000 So they write that pattern down and they remember that's the sound of that shape and that's where alphabet comes from.

01:08:52.000 Potentially.

01:08:54.000 I don't think that's true because there's many different languages that have different symbols for different sounds.

01:08:59.000 That's true.

01:09:00.000 But let's jump to this next story.

01:09:01.000 We've got this one from 404 Media.

01:09:03.000 TikTok says it is not censoring Free Palestine comments.

01:09:07.000 Users see something different.

01:09:09.000 Well, we have this video where it says TikTok is dead.

01:09:13.000 Free Palestine is now considered a symbol of hate speech.

01:09:16.000 Take a look at this video.

01:09:18.000 So in it, you can see them type in Free Palestine as a comment.

01:09:22.000 They then, they're watching Hassan of all people, go to their notifications and refresh and refresh and sure enough, they show system notification.

01:09:34.000 A comment you posted on the date was removed for violating our community guidelines.

01:09:40.000 Now, apparently a bunch of people are reporting this, that when you go on TikTok and type in Free Palestine, you will get the comment removed.

01:09:49.000 we can see a bunch of these.

01:09:52.000 Comment details.

01:09:53.000 Free Palestine. Removed.

01:09:55.000 404 Media.

01:09:57.000 I'm sorry.

01:09:58.000 That looks like an ad or whatever.

01:09:59.000 But many people are reporting the same thing.

01:10:01.000 404 Media reports.

01:10:03.000 Several TikTok users posted screenshots on X and Blue Sky showing a message they received after trying to comment Free Palestine.

01:10:09.000 They're going to say, I tried this myself on Tuesday morning using two different throwaway TikTok accounts.

01:10:13.000 Using one account, I could comment Free Palestine without a problem.

01:10:16.000 The comment is still up.

01:10:18.000 Using another, my free Palestine comments were immediately removed, repeatedly, and I received a notification that I had violated the TikTok community guidelines.

01:10:26.000 I could comment with a nonsense phrase, free shavocado, using the same account, however, and TikTok didn't remove it.

01:10:34.000 A spokesperson for TikTok told 404 the platform's policies and algorithms did not change over the weekend, adding that they're working on restoring U.S. operations back to normal.

01:10:41.000 What I've heard from a lot of these people, they believe there's a conspiracy.

01:10:45.000 That when TikTok went dark, Donald Trump took it over and that it was now under the control of Israeli interests or something to that effect.

01:10:53.000 Is that illegal to say in another country?

01:10:56.000 Did they plug in the wrong countries?

01:10:59.000 Free Palestine? 0.82

01:10:59.000 I don't think it's illegal to say anywhere. 0.82

01:11:02.000 I don't even think in Israel it's illegal to say.

01:11:05.000 Pretty wild.

01:11:06.000 Now, free Israel. 0.87

01:11:07.000 If you said something like pro-Israel, there's a lot of countries that absolutely you'd get in trouble for.

01:11:11.000 I think in Malaysia it's a crime. 1.00

01:11:13.000 To defend Israel. 0.62

01:11:15.000 I could be wrong.

01:11:15.000 Whether they're being coerced into this, or they're just like, whatever we gotta do to maintain presence in the United States.

01:11:20.000 You want us to ban the enemy of the country you're supporting in war?

01:11:24.000 Then we'll ban it.

01:11:25.000 Whatever you gotta do.

01:11:26.000 We want our spy tech in your country.

01:11:28.000 I don't support it, but I don't know what's going on.

01:11:30.000 I mean, this is really vague.

01:11:31.000 Well, look, at least you can still shout, freesh avocado.

01:11:35.000 That is really encouraging.

01:11:38.000 That's my number one issue.

01:11:40.000 I think everyone should just switch over to saying that, and if that gets banned, then you'll know.

01:11:45.000 Delicious food, by the way.

01:11:46.000 Free shavocado.

01:11:49.000 Shavocado from the river to the sea.

01:11:50.000 Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen are listed as having some restriction on expressions of support for Israel.

01:11:58.000 So there are a lot of countries.

01:11:59.000 I don't know that any country bans you saying anything about Palestine, though.

01:12:02.000 Interesting.

01:12:03.000 Just a private company.

01:12:04.000 So the reason why this story is pretty big is because the argument was, and I believe this is true, it was only after October 7th and pro-Palestinian content became prominent on TikTok that Democrats got on board with Republicans to force China to divest.

01:12:21.000 I believe as we've gone over ad nauseum, for those of you that watch every show, we put the data from Axios that seems to suggest TikTok made an algorithmic change to promote pro-Palestinian content.

01:12:32.000 After October 7th, there was 123,000 pro-Palestine comments.

01:12:38.000 It was, I stand with Palestine.

01:12:39.000 Only 11 million views.

01:12:40.000 In the next week, with 87,000, it jumped to 285 million views, which is indicative of an algorithmic push.

01:12:47.000 I am not telling you to support one country or another.

01:12:49.000 That's not what I'm saying.

01:12:50.000 I'm saying, after this change happened, Democrats all of a sudden changed their tune and said, yeah, we actually think this app should be banned.

01:12:57.000 Now, if it is true that TikTok is actually banning free Palestine, Perhaps they are trying to now court favor with those that sought their forced divestiture.

01:13:06.000 I'm confused.

01:13:06.000 Is it that Democrats don't like Palestine or they don't like China?

01:13:11.000 Democrats are, presumably, the argument is, after this, what appears to be an algorithmic change, many groups lobbied to Democrats saying China has altered the algorithm in a way that subverts U.S. foreign policy interests.

01:13:27.000 I see.

01:13:28.000 Now, depending on which...

01:13:32.000 The reality is, if it is true that ByteDance or TikTok or whatever changed the algorithm, going against American foreign policy, whatever it may be, is going to be terrifying to American politicians.

01:13:50.000 And so they're going to say, hey, that's a security threat.

01:13:53.000 And as much as a lot of people who hate Israel are saying it's a conspiracy, that's true. 1.00

01:13:58.000 No, these politicians were on TV talking about this.

01:14:01.000 Democrats and Republicans went on TV and said, the support, you know, the attacks on Israel that we see on the platform, it's bad for this country.

01:14:07.000 So this has some people now speculating that TikTok was either seized, which is the conspiracy, by the U.S., or this is what they need to do to avoid being banned, which is not the case.

01:14:19.000 That's kind of annoying.

01:14:20.000 Why don't they just change their algorithm so that people can say free Palestine without it becoming prioritized and, like, fake trending?

01:14:26.000 Just downrank it?

01:14:28.000 Shadow ban it?

01:14:29.000 No, just let it be what it is.

01:14:31.000 Don't give it any particular rank.

01:14:32.000 Yeah, just let it be what it works.

01:14:33.000 That's kind of a form of shadow banning.

01:14:35.000 But no, no, it doesn't matter.

01:14:36.000 Algorithms can't do that.

01:14:37.000 Algorithms, if they automate the algorithm, it is going to swing in one direction based on what the program dictates.

01:14:43.000 And that's going to go before or against American foreign policy interests.

01:14:46.000 And as we know, in the United States for the longest time, up until recently...

01:14:51.000 Our social media was absolutely prioritizing the federal government's policy interests over the free speech of the American people.

01:14:58.000 And this, I mean, Trump is more pro-Israel, it seems, than Biden was.

01:15:02.000 He canceled foreign aid to every country on Earth except Israel.

01:15:05.000 He's like pro-Israel, but also pro-make-a-deal so Palestinian people could stop being killed, too. 0.79

01:15:13.000 Like, I think he's just...

01:15:15.000 I think he's better on this just across the board than Biden was.

01:15:18.000 The reason I even brought that up is because I think that's why you're seeing this shift is because they're sympathetic to Trump being in office.

01:15:24.000 And I'm like, well, he's pro-Israel, so let's go a little less pro-power. 0.74

01:15:28.000 Maybe they are.

01:15:29.000 It's all business, baby.

01:15:30.000 TikTok is going to want to operate four years safely, so they're going to throw Trump and conservatives a bone or whoever needs to hear it. 0.74

01:15:36.000 And then once Trump's out of office, they're going to bomb the algorithm with Dylan Mulvaney and other like-minded ideas that subvert the minds of the next generation.

01:15:44.000 And right now, it seems that many people in the conservative movement are in favor of what TikTok is doing.

01:15:50.000 I think it's terrifying.

01:15:50.000 Can you clarify that?

01:15:51.000 You said a couple other countries, too.

01:15:52.000 He didn't cancel foreign aid, too.

01:15:53.000 I don't know anything.

01:15:54.000 I believe there's a couple others.

01:15:58.000 Do you know off the top of your head?

01:15:59.000 No, I think there was two others.

01:16:00.000 Cancel as much as we can.

01:16:02.000 That makes me so, so happy.

01:16:04.000 No more welfare queens across the world. 0.97

01:16:06.000 I mean, I'm surprised that they wouldn't censor something like from the river to the sea instead of free Palestine, which seems a little bit more innocuous. 0.57

01:16:15.000 I mean, I'm surprised that it is.

01:16:19.000 If it is being censored, it surprises me.

01:16:21.000 It surprises me, too.

01:16:22.000 That's really not a scary phrase.

01:16:25.000 I understand the arguments that...

01:16:27.000 Like, talking about hang gliders and freedom fighters of people who murdered other people, okay.

01:16:33.000 But it's like, free Palestine, okay, well, you know. 0.58

01:16:37.000 Even if I disagree with those, they should be allowed.

01:16:40.000 There you go. 0.98

01:16:41.000 It sucks, but... 1.00

01:16:42.000 I'm just surprised. 0.99

01:16:44.000 I heard that Trump paused for an aid, and then yesterday someone said, except for Israel.

01:16:51.000 I think there are others.

01:16:52.000 Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, if I understand correctly.

01:16:54.000 I looked that up, but is that confirmed?

01:16:58.000 That's what the information that I have, I can't see.

01:17:00.000 When I looked up, I didn't see that.

01:17:02.000 But let me try and get direct sources.

01:17:05.000 Hopefully we don't get more aggressive social media censorship.

01:17:09.000 Oh, jeez.

01:17:10.000 I mean, the thing about TikTok is it is owned by ByteDance, which serves the CCP in a lot of ways.

01:17:15.000 It's a totally crazy, you know, unhinged platform.

01:17:19.000 It's like, I mean, I don't know the Chinese Communist Party.

01:17:22.000 I don't know anyone in the party.

01:17:23.000 I would love to, but...

01:17:25.000 I have heard like, yo, that's very bad.

01:17:28.000 What they're doing is wrong.

01:17:29.000 What they're doing is heavy censorship.

01:17:31.000 Like full force, just violent, shutting down protests.

01:17:35.000 Like the Tiananmen Square massacre apparently was horrific.

01:17:39.000 So I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if they're just like, smack it.

01:17:42.000 They have Uyghurs in concentration camps. 1.00

01:17:44.000 They're terrible.

01:17:46.000 I don't know that those countries are exempt.

01:17:48.000 Oh, really?

01:17:50.000 Let me just read, just to make sure.

01:17:52.000 So I'm reading the executive order.

01:17:53.000 It says, 90-day pause in United States foreign development assistance for assessment of programmatic efficiencies and consistency with United States foreign policy.

01:17:59.000 All department agency heads with responsibility for United States foreign development assistance programs shall immediately pause new obligations and disbursements of development assistance funds to foreign countries and implementing non-governmental organizations, international organizations, and contractors pending reviews of such programs for programmatic efficiency and consistency with United States policy.

01:18:15.000 To be connected with 90 days of this order, the OMB shall enforce this, blah, blah, blah.

01:18:18.000 PBS is reporting that some of the biggest recipients of U.S. assistance, Israel, Egypt, and Jordan, are unlikely to see dramatic reductions as those amounts are included in long-term packages that date back decades or in some cases governed by treaty obligations.

01:18:31.000 Sure, that's presumptive.

01:18:33.000 That's them saying perhaps.

01:18:35.000 The executive order doesn't have any exceptions.

01:18:37.000 It literally just says we're going to review all foreign aid.

01:18:40.000 Nice.

01:18:40.000 So he could like...

01:18:41.000 Right before he signs the order, be like, send them $100 billion.

01:18:44.000 All right, no more, no more.

01:18:46.000 He could.

01:18:47.000 The president can't just give money like that.

01:18:50.000 Oh, you're right.

01:18:51.000 It's an act of Congress.

01:18:51.000 That's got to go through Congress.

01:18:52.000 Right, so a lot of these executive orders are interesting because Congress will pass a law.

01:18:58.000 The TikTok ban, for instance, is a law passed by Congress, signed by the president, upheld by the Supreme Court.

01:19:03.000 Trump has no authority to stop that.

01:19:04.000 He can instruct federal law enforcement not to enforce it.

01:19:07.000 But he cannot take away the penalties from companies.

01:19:10.000 He tried to, but that's not within the scope of the president's powers.

01:19:14.000 So, as of right now, once again, Google has not restored TikTok.

01:19:18.000 Trump's executive order was largely meaningless.

01:19:20.000 I think this is wild.

01:19:22.000 I mean, okay, it's an act of Congress.

01:19:24.000 I'm not a fan.

01:19:26.000 I don't think they did it right.

01:19:27.000 No, I'm not a fan.

01:19:29.000 I'm a big fan of the ban of TikTok.

01:19:31.000 Tell me more.

01:19:31.000 Tell me why.

01:19:33.000 Why would we allow a foreign country to control mass media in the United States and a strong portion, not the biggest, not a majority, but a strong portion of our economy? 0.99

01:19:42.000 Couldn't we have worked out some other sort of deal so that that didn't happen?

01:19:46.000 Change your algorithm.

01:19:48.000 Open source the algorithm and give the U.S. full control of it.

01:19:52.000 I don't know if we even need full control, but it's like, can we actually see what's going on?

01:19:56.000 Maybe just a little bit of transparency?

01:19:58.000 Nope.

01:19:58.000 Because then they just show us that they're screwing over Gen Z and Gen Alpha, and we watch them do it.

01:20:05.000 Look, what people need to understand about TikTok or any other social media platform, even X, Facebook, YouTube, etc., is that they're going to apply a...

01:20:13.000 The system is going to be built on pressures they can apply.

01:20:17.000 What YouTube did, and this is proven by data, was they created a recommendation algorithm that favored the left by a small percentage, but substantial.

01:20:27.000 With the intention of stopping Donald Trump.

01:20:30.000 There was a researcher in Australia who posted this, and you could see that if you went to a conservative YouTuber's channel, after you watched their video, there was a certain percentage of recommendation that would be liberal-leaning.

01:20:43.000 If you went to a liberal channel, you would get very little, if any, conservative.

01:20:49.000 Meaning, if someone said, hey, watch this video about immigration from Matt Walsh, and you clicked on it, After you were done, it would autoplay a liberal arguing the opposite.

01:20:58.000 If someone said, hey, watch this video from the Young Turks, and you clicked it, the next video would be another liberal arguing the same thing.

01:21:05.000 That creates a flow towards the ideology they want.

01:21:09.000 TikTok is doing that.

01:21:11.000 Look, there was a...

01:21:14.000 Is it different than what YouTube does, though?

01:21:16.000 I mean, how different is it?

01:21:18.000 The difference is that in the United States, I can file a lawsuit against YouTube, but we can elect a president who then issues an executive order, and YouTube bends the knee and apologizes.

01:21:25.000 I can file lawsuits about violation of contracts.

01:21:28.000 I can't do that with the Chinese Communist Party.

01:21:30.000 How much of TikTok is owned by China, though?

01:21:32.000 I thought it was not the entire company.

01:21:34.000 Right.

01:21:34.000 It's a small percentage, and that's why they have to divest from it, because they do collect the data.

01:21:40.000 Some of the reports that have come up about what TikTok collects...

01:21:44.000 They inject JavaScript key loggers if you open any links through the app.

01:21:48.000 And it's been reported, and this could be wrong, reported that it collects data from other apps on your phone.

01:21:53.000 That data goes outside this country to a foreign agency.

01:21:56.000 But I'm not even as concerned.

01:21:57.000 That's very terrifying if those reports are true.

01:21:59.000 Maybe they're not.

01:22:00.000 The worrying thing to me is that Dylan Mulvaney had 13 million followers and Riley Gaines had 600,000.

01:22:05.000 That stuff's patently obvious.

01:22:07.000 Prominent Trump-supporting and conservative voices were banned.

01:22:11.000 And that's why Trump and conservatives came out initially and said, we have to shut this down.

01:22:16.000 They're attempting to swing the politics of the United States.

01:22:18.000 Let me ask you that, because this is an issue that I haven't staked out very firm ground on, which is one of the things that sucks about what we do is that everything that happens, you're never allowed to go, hmm, I'm not sure exactly how I feel about that.

01:22:31.000 You have to immediately know exactly how you feel.

01:22:33.000 But sometimes I'm just like, okay, I can kind of see it from both ways.

01:22:36.000 And this is one of those things, I can kind of see it both ways.

01:22:40.000 And I do agree with you that, to me, the more compelling aspect of the argument is about how this is harmful to kids and how it's polluting the minds of children.

01:22:51.000 To me, just as a parent, the way that I think, I care more about that.

01:22:55.000 The stuff about, oh, the Chinese government is, well, it's like, everything we do on our phone, nothing we do is private.

01:23:03.000 All the information is out there.

01:23:04.000 It's hard to even fear-monger about that stuff anymore.

01:23:07.000 None of us have any privacy at all.

01:23:09.000 But that part does resonate.

01:23:13.000 But then my issue with that is, you know, okay, so you ban TikTok.

01:23:19.000 Well, then there's approximately 600 billion other websites and apps that are just as harmful to the young mind, and then they just go to that.

01:23:29.000 So part of me thinks, if we're going to get to the point, now like banning an app, that's a big step.

01:23:35.000 And I'm not necessarily opposed to big steps.

01:23:36.000 Sometimes you gotta, especially to protect kids, big steps, okay.

01:23:40.000 But it's like, I wouldn't start with TikTok.

01:23:43.000 I would start with, like, we're not OnlyFans.

01:23:47.000 I mean, it's literally a prostitution app.

01:23:50.000 This is a multi-billion dollar cyber prostitution ring. 0.80

01:23:56.000 Why don't we ban that? 0.66

01:23:57.000 And then start talking about some of these social media apps.

01:24:02.000 The way I view it is, we here in the United States have a set of rules, laws, and absolutely, let's have Congress ban OnlyFans, or at least require submitted IDs to these things to prove your age and protect children the way we would in the real world.

01:24:20.000 And so my view is largely, two things can be bad.

01:24:25.000 So right now my concern is, I'll put it this way, YouTube, Facebook, X, they were manipulating us.

01:24:31.000 for political ends.

01:24:33.000 And we challenged them.

01:24:34.000 There were whistleblowers.

01:24:36.000 There were journalists who did great work.

01:24:38.000 There were lawsuits that we won that got information revealed.

01:24:40.000 There were debates.

01:24:42.000 I had a debate with Twitter's executives with Joe Rogan.

01:24:44.000 And we won.

01:24:46.000 We called them out and we swayed the American mind and we have affected positive change.

01:24:50.000 Imperfect, but positive change so far.

01:24:52.000 We will never know what the algorithm of TikTok does.

01:24:56.000 TikTok is banned in China.

01:24:58.000 They won't let their kids watch it.

01:25:00.000 They don't let their country use it.

01:25:01.000 And ByteDance, which is Chinese-owned and owns a portion of TikTok, has access to the data as well as control over the algorithm.

01:25:09.000 And you know, in China, if the Communist Party comes to you and says, do it, they will.

01:25:14.000 So I understand that there are many different bad things.

01:25:17.000 China buying farmland is a bad thing. 0.99

01:25:19.000 Let's stop that, too.

01:25:20.000 I think OnlyFans is horrifying, and there should be restrictions.

01:25:25.000 I don't think it is a simple issue of This is an app that's bad for the minds of our kids, so we're going to ban it.

01:25:32.000 This is out of the control and scope of the United States.

01:25:36.000 We can ban OnlyFans.

01:25:37.000 We can file lawsuits.

01:25:38.000 We can change the law.

01:25:40.000 We have changed the law for TikTok.

01:25:42.000 It's not a ban.

01:25:43.000 It's a forced divestiture.

01:25:45.000 So China can sell off their portion to an American company, and there's no problem.

01:25:49.000 Yeah, I will say that, being still kind of on the fence on it, I will say that...

01:25:56.000 To see some conservatives, I mean, if you're conservative, you're like, well, I'm against the ban for these principled reasons.

01:26:02.000 Okay, I can get that.

01:26:03.000 But I am uncomfortable to see some conservatives seem like have circled the wagon around TikTok to the point that they're now, like, very pro-TikTok, where TikTok is a good thing.

01:26:16.000 And no matter where you stand on the ban, we should all at least be on the same page that this is just objectively not good. 0.61

01:26:23.000 To have kids who just spend all day scrolling this damn thing and watching these videos, your whole life is this. 0.67

01:26:30.000 I mean, we've got kids, this is their whole life now. 0.98

01:26:33.000 Their whole life is just, and I know a billion other people complain about this, but this is a major crisis to have entire generations of kids.

01:26:44.000 It's not even a human existence.

01:26:46.000 It's this robotic existence of just staring mindlessly and having your mind controlled by an algorithm.

01:26:53.000 So we should at least all, no matter where you stand on the band, it's like this is not a good thing.

01:26:57.000 And we should all be able to agree on that at least.

01:27:00.000 Agreed.

01:27:01.000 And have you seen our breakdown of Dylan Mulvaney's content in the past?

01:27:05.000 I'm not assuming you did.

01:27:06.000 I'm assuming you probably haven't.

01:27:07.000 No, I don't think so.

01:27:09.000 When this whole Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light thing was going on...

01:27:12.000 I, in my research, pulled up Mulvaney's posts and went to the earliest posts, and what do you find?

01:27:18.000 Dylan Mulvaney was doing something called Gay Safari, and he was a theater kid, gay singer, who was trying to make a show.

01:27:27.000 He was trying to be famous.

01:27:29.000 There's the viral video where Dylan Mulvaney goes on The Price is Right and wigs out.

01:27:33.000 That's the best way to describe it.

01:27:35.000 runs around in circles, does a fake rowboat, rolls around on the ground, and you're carries like, okay, what's he doing?

01:27:42.000 Very slapstick.

01:27:43.000 Very much, please look at me.

01:27:45.000 Dylan Mulvaney created a series of videos that weren't really getting any traction.

01:27:49.000 Eventually, Mulvaney made a video something about coming out as non-binary.

01:27:53.000 The views were higher.

01:27:55.000 Then some gay safari videos and some other videos that didn't really get a lot of views.

01:27:58.000 And then I'm trans.

01:28:00.000 More views.

01:28:01.000 What had happened was the algorithm told Dylan Mulvaney.

01:28:05.000 We will promote this and not this, that but not this.

01:28:09.000 And so Dylan Mulvaney was making content.

01:28:12.000 Some worked, some didn't.

01:28:13.000 And as soon as Mulvaney did the trans thing and got a bunch of views, Mulvaney then started doubling down, increasingly undergoing body modification to adhere to what the algorithm had demanded of him, now making Dylan Mulvaney what Mulvaney is today.

01:28:28.000 If you look at some of the earliest Dylan Mulvaney Days of Girlhood videos, it is obvious.

01:28:35.000 Satire.

01:28:37.000 Dylan Mulvaney undergoing no treatments or surgeries, insulting women in a comedic routine, saying, now that I'm a woman, I'm going to go buy a dress that costs too much money and complain about, you know, just very offensive stereotypes about women.

01:28:51.000 But how do you chase the algorithm if every day you have to do one degree more instead of going back to doing gay safari, which wasn't popular?

01:28:59.000 Dylan Mulvaney did what the algorithm told him to do, which is get surgery.

01:29:03.000 I agree.

01:29:04.000 The algorithms are all bad, and they harm children, but I want to connect it to how we were talking about rights and crime earlier.

01:29:10.000 I think we need a renaissance in good parenting again, because I see so many parents outsourcing their parenting to the internet, and these kids are stuck in Doomscroll life, and they need to get back to actually raising children.

01:29:23.000 I mean, I agree with the principle.

01:29:25.000 I just want to speak to that for a minute, and I hear that response anytime I talk about, I mean, one of my big issues is, At least age verification on all these porn sites.

01:29:37.000 There's no argument against it.

01:29:39.000 Not any rational one.

01:29:41.000 And I'm very much in favor of banning a lot of these sites outright, which I know puts me...

01:29:45.000 The libertarians won't go along with that.

01:29:49.000 I often hear that.

01:29:50.000 I often hear, well, this is about the parents.

01:29:53.000 Parents should do their jobs.

01:29:54.000 And I agree.

01:29:56.000 But also, I think sometimes we understate Just how rigged everything is against parents.

01:30:07.000 It is so difficult.

01:30:11.000 Your kids are going out into a world where this stuff is everywhere.

01:30:16.000 It is just everywhere.

01:30:19.000 Parents need a little help.

01:30:21.000 We can't do it all on our own.

01:30:23.000 I've gone as extreme as you can on this issue with my own kids in that my kids don't have phones.

01:30:27.000 We just don't do phones.

01:30:28.000 We don't do internet in the house.

01:30:31.000 It's not going to last forever.

01:30:33.000 Eventually, they're going to have a phone.

01:30:34.000 And for a lot of other kids, they do have phones.

01:30:38.000 I'm opposed to giving your kids a phone, but it's not this extreme move.

01:30:43.000 And then also, even if you don't give your kid a phone, if they go to school somewhere, my kids are homeschooled, but if they go to school somewhere, they're around kids that have it.

01:30:51.000 And friends have phones.

01:30:52.000 Right.

01:30:52.000 They go to a friend's house.

01:30:53.000 And so they still have access to all those screens.

01:30:56.000 And so it's just impossible.

01:30:58.000 The parent, you can't, unless you're going to lock your kid in a room until they're 18 years old and give them no access to any kind of media, unless you're going to do that, they're going to have access to it.

01:31:09.000 But then there's this attitude of like, we're not going to do anything to help parents on this at all.

01:31:15.000 And I just don't get that.

01:31:17.000 Because there are basic things that are low cost, require almost no sacrifice.

01:31:21.000 Age verification on these sites.

01:31:24.000 What's the downside?

01:31:25.000 The only downside is for the porn sites.

01:31:27.000 I have an idea.

01:31:28.000 I was talking with Allison about this, because we're having our kids soon, and I said, why don't we build an underground bunker where everything looks like the 90s, and we will raise our child for 18 years as if it was the 90s, the 90s technology, and you can't go outside because the air is poisonous, and then one day...

01:31:45.000 When she's old enough, expose her to what the world is really like.

01:31:48.000 I mean, the other concern, aside from parenting, though, is millions of people had shops on here and they made a living on here.

01:32:00.000 And they weren't all just, like, insufferable Dylan Mulvaney clickbaiters.

01:32:05.000 They sold t-shirts, they sold mugs, like a TikTok shop.

01:32:08.000 And a lot of people got really hurt.

01:32:11.000 And that's the manipulation.

01:32:12.000 They dangle a crying woman in front of you and say, but look at the poor asylum seeker as the child traffickers are running across the border.

01:32:18.000 So TikTok says, we have 7 million entrepreneurs selling mugs and shirts.

01:32:23.000 Why won't you let us corrupt the mind of your children? 0.79

01:32:25.000 And I say, I'm not going to be swayed by the sympathies of these people.

01:32:30.000 I get it.

01:32:30.000 I feel bad for them.

01:32:31.000 But the first thing we see when Trump signs his executive order...

01:32:35.000 These journalists put out videos of crying migrant women.

01:32:39.000 Because they're trying to manipulate you into accepting that we are being exploited and abused in extreme ways.

01:32:46.000 So TikTok has a lot of good people on it, and that's fine.

01:32:49.000 But if all we are asking is the company divest from a codified foreign adversary, that's not unreasonable.

01:32:55.000 You want to sell your mugs?

01:32:57.000 You go ahead and do it.

01:32:58.000 But this company has access to a foreign security threat that's going to manipulate the algorithm, and it's going to take our data.

01:33:05.000 So we just asked them, sell it off, make your money, let the company operate.

01:33:09.000 And they said no, and TikTok, of their own volition, shut down.

01:33:13.000 The law did not require them to do so.

01:33:15.000 They faked that.

01:33:16.000 And then they came back and said, thank you, Donald Trump, for bringing us back.

01:33:19.000 Never did.

01:33:20.000 TikTok is still banned in the App Store on Apple and Google because that's what the law actually did.

01:33:25.000 Are they going to divest?

01:33:27.000 No.

01:33:29.000 They said they won't do it.

01:33:31.000 Do we think Donald Trump can convince them?

01:33:33.000 No.

01:33:33.000 And the question I have for you guys then is, if it's about making money and running a business, and ByteDance only owns a portion, or China only owns a portion, these investors only own a portion, why not just sell?

01:33:46.000 You've got the brunt of the U.S. government saying sell or lose everything.

01:33:49.000 They chose to go to zero instead of...

01:33:53.000 $20 billion?

01:33:54.000 I'm curious.

01:33:55.000 They want to use their influence over the American people to try and get the American people to convince politicians to change.

01:34:01.000 But also, if...

01:34:02.000 I truly believe that if TikTok isn't, like if the Chinese Communist Party is removed from TikTok totally, then it's not, it's of no value to the Chinese Communist Party.

01:34:12.000 So they don't want to divest because it's an apparatus of money.

01:34:18.000 Money is not a consideration for the Chinese Communist Party.

01:34:22.000 You have to ask yourself, especially in international exchange, what is money?

01:34:26.000 Money is largely meaningless on the oil market.

01:34:28.000 So when we say China divest TikTok, There should be a divorce divestiture. 1.00

01:34:34.000 They're thinking to themselves...

01:34:35.000 $10 billion doesn't move the needle for us.

01:34:38.000 The ability to convince 170 million Americans that Osama bin Laden was right, which was happening on TikTok, is worth more than a trillion dollars to these people.

01:34:48.000 It's absolutely about espionage and influencing American opinion.

01:34:53.000 I think if they did sell to an American company, they would have the algorithm.

01:34:55.000 They'd be like, you've been doing what for the last five years with our people?

01:34:59.000 Do we have a shareholder statement?

01:35:02.000 I haven't read anything.

01:35:03.000 It's not publicly traded.

01:35:05.000 Oh, I understand now.

01:35:07.000 I understand.

01:35:08.000 So there is, I believe, as of recent...

01:35:12.000 I assume there's private shareholders.

01:35:13.000 Yes.

01:35:14.000 I believe there's a conservative billionaire who owns a small piece, and the reporting is several prominent individuals in Trump's sphere were paid to lobby on behalf of TikTok, and they did.

01:35:26.000 And so while I deeply respect Charlie Kirk for all the work he did in helping Trump get elected, I will absolutely criticize his one...

01:35:33.000 180-degree spin from demanding the ban of TikTok over and over again to the, without any real reason, I don't understand why, he flipped and said, Trump saved TikTok.

01:35:44.000 We did this.

01:35:45.000 Hooray.

01:35:45.000 I don't understand where he's coming from with that.

01:35:48.000 Matt, you've said earlier, what's the reason that he...

01:35:50.000 I've not seen one.

01:35:51.000 Maybe that's just me, but he had been leading the charge.

01:35:56.000 In 2020, Trump called for the banning of TikTok.

01:35:59.000 Because it was censoring conservative opinion and propping up the likes of, you know, Dylan Mulvaney is one example.

01:36:04.000 Charlie Kirk was very much for years saying we must ban it.

01:36:06.000 It's a CCP threat.

01:36:08.000 I've not heard an explanation where he said it's no longer a threat from the CCP. Well, I mean, and I'm not familiar with his view then versus now, but I will say in fairness to Charlie that, you know, people change their views on this.

01:36:23.000 You know, people change their opinions.

01:36:25.000 Yeah.

01:36:25.000 And that's one of the...

01:36:27.000 Like I said, one of the problems being in our position is that we have to have an opinion on everything right away.

01:36:30.000 The other thing is that whatever your opinion is, it has to stay that forever.

01:36:33.000 You're not allowed to change your opinion.

01:36:37.000 I would agree with it to a certain extent.

01:36:38.000 Some things are fact questions that I don't understand why your opinion would change. 0.95

01:36:42.000 Matt, if you ever came to me and told me you decided to agree on child sex changes, I'd think someone hit you on the head or something like that.

01:36:47.000 That's not possible.

01:36:48.000 This is a little more complex than that, though.

01:36:51.000 Not if you spent years saying this is a CCP threat to the United States, and now you're saying, hooray, we have TikTok back.

01:36:57.000 I assume that he is assuming that President Trump is going to get them to divest or make some sort of change.

01:37:05.000 Perhaps.

01:37:06.000 I'm not saying he doesn't have a reason.

01:37:08.000 Sure.

01:37:08.000 But I would say it is rather strange how in lockstep so many people just decided to march.

01:37:15.000 One by one, prominent conservatives changed their opinions without real explanation.

01:37:20.000 Well, I mean, you know, one criticism I have over the conservative community is they usually are pretty lockstep.

01:37:27.000 I would say tendency, not absolute.

01:37:31.000 I would say it's often the opposite.

01:37:33.000 You think so?

01:37:34.000 Yeah.

01:37:34.000 And the woke are the ones who are marching in lockstep.

01:37:36.000 Oh, they're like hive mind. 0.99

01:37:38.000 I mean, I would say that's...

01:37:40.000 From my perspective, on the right, it's been a little different for the last couple of weeks because of the feeling of victory and everything.

01:37:47.000 We're feeling good, but...

01:37:48.000 Generally, the problem is almost the opposite, where we're not locked up about anything.

01:37:52.000 It's just this constant infighting and backbiting and feuding and all of this.

01:37:58.000 I guess that's encouraging for me to hear, because there's only one true libertarian, and it's every libertarian for himself.

01:38:06.000 And it always seems like the conservative community has it together a little bit more, with the exception of the explosion of a...

01:38:13.000 You know, the Israel controversy recently.

01:38:15.000 The right is currently right now, or however you describe what the right is, I don't know.

01:38:20.000 Debating TikTok.

01:38:21.000 Not marching in lockstep.

01:38:22.000 Interesting.

01:38:23.000 There were a few prominent individuals who came out in favor of TikTok, like a 180, and then lesser, I don't mean lesser morally, but like smaller personalities with lesser followings, all of a sudden inverted their positions as well, and started arguing, I would...

01:38:38.000 Look, with all due respect, I'm going to criticize people where they deserve it.

01:38:41.000 Riley Gaines posted an image of Chinese farmland in the United States and said, how is TikTok a bigger threat than this? 0.74

01:38:48.000 My first response is, a single federal agent with a clipboard can seize all of that farmland with no question.

01:38:55.000 But you can't seize back the mind of 170 million people.

01:38:58.000 Outside of that, the image that was shared by Riley showed that the entire island of Hawaii had been purchased by China, which is clearly not correct.

01:39:05.000 So there are people sharing these fake memes.

01:39:08.000 They're engaging in sophistry to defend a platform that has a foreign adversary in control of it, and there doesn't seem to be a legitimate reason.

01:39:16.000 Two things can be bad.

01:39:18.000 I'm sure you've thought about this, but if you had Charlie and Riley or whoever else on the show and you guys debated this, as someone who's a squishy fence rider on this thing, I'd be very interested to watch...

01:39:31.000 That debate with you guys.

01:39:33.000 I am also a squishy fence rider on this.

01:39:36.000 I thought Matt Walsh and I would be like firing gasoline, but we're both like, I don't know.

01:39:42.000 One of the biggest fears, are you guys familiar with Elsagate?

01:39:46.000 Yeah.

01:39:46.000 You're familiar with Elsagate?

01:39:47.000 Yeah.

01:39:48.000 Matt?

01:39:49.000 This is seven years ago, so this is when...

01:39:53.000 I have a toddler, so I just recently...

01:39:55.000 It started.

01:39:57.000 With these long-form, unspoken videos emerging of people dressed like Elsa, Spider-Man, and the Joker chasing each other around.

01:40:06.000 What was happening was people were putting iPads in front of their babies and pressing play.

01:40:11.000 The auto-player would then choose the top keywords for children.

01:40:14.000 Spider-Man, Elsa, Joker, the Hulk.

01:40:17.000 But the Hulk wasn't really in a lot of those videos.

01:40:19.000 And then it would auto-play it for the baby who could not choose what it was watching.

01:40:23.000 This devolved into absolute psychotic content.

01:40:28.000 Images of children eating feces.

01:40:30.000 Men injecting saline for no reason into little girls.

01:40:35.000 Thumbnail images of children drinking out of urinals.

01:40:38.000 And it was because the algorithm was promoting these things.

01:40:41.000 Babies weren't choosing it. 0.98

01:40:43.000 And individuals were using computer programs to just generate what...

01:40:48.000 They would look at the YouTube API and look at what was hitting views for children.

01:40:53.000 And then they would inject those things into a program which would auto-generate these videos, which became increasingly disturbing.

01:41:00.000 Videos of a teddy bear brutally beating a child while the child is forced to eat out of a toilet were getting tens of thousands, millions of views.

01:41:10.000 And then you got the Finger Family song, where people in India started making these absolutely insane videos, the most famous of which was Hitler. 0.90

01:41:20.000 With a woman's body in a bikini doing Tai Chi with the Incredible Hulk while an Indian family sang the song Finger Family. 1.00

01:41:27.000 This was the algorithmic chaos.

01:41:29.000 It wasn't intentionally done.

01:41:31.000 So when I see problems like this, and this is causing psychological disorders in children, because this is not reality, where we end up in 10 years, things are starting to get a bit crazier as these kids are growing up.

01:41:45.000 The algorithmic problems we saw with the pushing of wokeness and other leftist ideas was corrupting a generation.

01:41:54.000 We were largely defeating that.

01:41:56.000 And I felt very optimistic, especially now with Mark Zuckerberg apologizing with Elon Musk buying X. Now we have TikTok, which is unaccountable and doing the exact same thing.

01:42:07.000 And we have conservatives cheering for...

01:42:09.000 TikTok to remain able to continue doing what we have been fighting for nearly a decade.

01:42:14.000 This ties in.

01:42:15.000 This is what I've been thinking and wanting to say for about 20 minutes now.

01:42:17.000 Matt, you brought up interesting people getting embedded in the machine.

01:42:20.000 Children especially.

01:42:21.000 Like, this is their life.

01:42:22.000 I am in the machine.

01:42:23.000 I'm concerned that humans are evolving and that we will, if this continues, evolve into two different species.

01:42:28.000 Literally.

01:42:29.000 A technocratic, like a cyborg human that is...

01:42:32.000 Fully rely on this, that has the AI doing its thinking for it, becomes a hive mind, and literally that there will be a war between these species like Neanderthal and Hominid, a Homo sapien.

01:42:42.000 Like, you can't have two alpha species on the planet.

01:42:45.000 All right.

01:42:46.000 Well, first I'll pause here because you have made tremendous leaps.

01:42:49.000 It's a more general look at the danger of children being embedded in the tech.

01:42:53.000 Getting to two species and then getting to the war between them is very far in the future.

01:42:58.000 Yeah, I'm nipping it in the boat.

01:42:59.000 We do have to go to Super Chat, so we're way behind.

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01:43:06.000 We have an uncensored conversation with Angela earlier.

01:43:09.000 We recorded before the show because we have time constraints here where we are.

01:43:12.000 Um, but it was an interesting conversation about Russell Brook.

01:43:14.000 You're meeting with, uh, Donald Trump.

01:43:15.000 So if you want to watch that, it's on TimCast.com.

01:43:18.000 It should be up right now, and it's very fascinating.

01:43:19.000 And you'll get access to our Discord community.

01:43:21.000 Over 20,000 people, probably more at this point, all hanging out.

01:43:25.000 Pre-shows, after-shows.

01:43:27.000 There's a litany of community and content that's being produced there, and they want to be friends with you.

01:43:32.000 But let's read your superchats.

01:43:34.000 AlphaTurkey says, Tim, do you still stand that Trump will be a marginally good president or be far better than the first term?

01:43:40.000 Also, welcome, Matt.

01:43:41.000 I stand corrected.

01:43:43.000 I said Trump would be a marginally good president like he was in his first term.

01:43:46.000 He'll get another chance to do so, but in these past few days, the dude walked right up and hit a grand slam.

01:43:52.000 So I'm much, much more optimistic, and I would change my statement to say, I believe Trump is going to be the greatest president of my lifetime.

01:43:59.000 He already is.

01:44:00.000 But I will say that it's a low bar.

01:44:04.000 Practically on the ground, as it were.

01:44:06.000 But Trump is going to be an absolutely great president who's already done tremendous things.

01:44:09.000 I'm curious if you guys agree.

01:44:10.000 I'm skeptical of Project Stargate and building a digital god with the $500 billion shrine to AI that all those companies are putting together that he announced yesterday.

01:44:20.000 That's the one thing.

01:44:20.000 I love everything else, but that is concerning to me.

01:44:23.000 Yeah, I'm skeptical of Stargate and working with OpenAI after the whistleblower stuff has come out.

01:44:30.000 I think there's some concerning things there.

01:44:33.000 Don't even talk about that anymore.

01:44:34.000 I feel like, aside from that, we have a huge upward trajectory, and the vibe shift in the United States is amazing.

01:44:42.000 And I feel really good since the inauguration.

01:44:45.000 I kind of echo the feeling about OpenAI.

01:44:47.000 I am concerned about Sam Altman.

01:44:49.000 I don't think that he's a stand-up guy.

01:44:51.000 But that being said, People that are concerned about AI overall, I mean, look, if the United States doesn't do it, China or another country is going to.

01:45:02.000 I get it.

01:45:02.000 Just because it's inevitable doesn't mean it's good.

01:45:04.000 And it's going to replace humans.

01:45:06.000 I disagree with that.

01:45:08.000 It'll happen soon.

01:45:09.000 I don't believe that it's going to replace humans.

01:45:12.000 But I do think that if you allow, if we don't have the, if we're not cutting edge on AI, then you're going to fall behind.

01:45:22.000 A country like China that is on the rise can use the incredible benefits that AI will bring to a marketplace and can overtake a country like the United States.

01:45:32.000 And they're selling Stargate as these beautiful benefits, the same way Elon sells Neuralink, which the short-term benefits are beautiful.

01:45:38.000 They cure these different diseases.

01:45:39.000 Open AI, they're saying they're going to cure cancer, but they're going to build a giant surveillance state apparatus that'll be way...

01:45:46.000 Worse than anything we could possibly imagine.

01:45:48.000 Yeah, I think that's good.

01:45:49.000 Predictive program, like programmatic policing, all these things are going to be very ugly very soon.

01:45:53.000 So Stargate program, right now, its point is it will map your, I think, your personal genome and then...

01:46:01.000 through the mRNA.

01:46:02.000 That's mRNA medicine. 0.96

01:46:03.000 And I think mRNAs got really vilified over the last five years because of a lot of the mandates of the vaccines and things that the mRNA was new.

01:46:10.000 But that doesn't mean it's bad.

01:46:12.000 It could be extremely valuable to be, but you are right about it tailoring and mapping your genetics and having access to it, which could also create bioweapons, particularly against your genetics.

01:46:23.000 We'll just try to move on and get some, We got this from SM69. He says, That's creepy.

01:46:45.000 That's what I was referring to earlier, though, that they're trying to rename these departments to avoid getting terminated.

01:46:50.000 Oh, time to fire him.

01:46:51.000 Yeah.

01:46:53.000 There's a way to fire them.

01:46:55.000 You just have to work harder, and you just have to do it.

01:46:57.000 Look up, ask them, what do you do?

01:46:59.000 If they can't answer you in eight seconds, fired.

01:47:01.000 These guys should have been confirmed already.

01:47:04.000 For sure.

01:47:05.000 Yeah.

01:47:05.000 Who, Cash?

01:47:06.000 All of them.

01:47:07.000 Oh, yes.

01:47:07.000 And everybody needs to go and call and lobby your senators.

01:47:11.000 Senators in particular, especially if you're in Maine or Alaska.

01:47:14.000 Tell your senator that you want them to vote for Cash.

01:47:16.000 They're dragging their feet.

01:47:17.000 All right, Jason says, I work in DOD Public Affairs.

01:47:20.000 We scrubbed our websites of all the DEI nonsense today.

01:47:23.000 It felt good, like smashing the printer in office space.

01:47:26.000 I hear that.

01:47:29.000 Suave Bros says, Gun Owners of America posted on X that the ATF DEI officer is now the executive officer.

01:47:34.000 That's how they will keep it around to get around it.

01:47:36.000 We did bring that up.

01:47:37.000 Well, I mean, they're going to try to do that kind of stuff.

01:47:40.000 That's okay.

01:47:40.000 But thankfully, because of platforms like X and people that are looking to facilitate the change, these things are going to be brought to the attention of the people in charge.

01:47:50.000 And hopefully, they'll be able to make adjustments and actually...

01:47:57.000 We'll find them.

01:47:58.000 We'll find them, and we'll say, like, good job on trying to hide that.

01:48:03.000 Best of luck in the private sector, and see you later.

01:48:06.000 You know, thanks for making my day more entertaining, and you're out.

01:48:08.000 Tyler Bratton says, The Chicken Amendment is already covered under one of the greatest amendments, the Ninth Amendment, which states, Wrong, I say!

01:48:23.000 So, the purpose there is that, Just because we enshrine some rights doesn't mean other rights are not, you know, non-existent or whatever.

01:48:30.000 The problem is we do need to write down the things that we want to be upheld because there are many states that ban chicken ownership.

01:48:38.000 And it was funny because I was talking with Thomas Massey.

01:48:41.000 I don't know if you mentioned this on the show.

01:48:43.000 I think it was before the show, perhaps.

01:48:44.000 We were talking about...

01:48:45.000 An amendment for the right to grow your own food and be secure in your ability to eat and grow healthy food and things like this.

01:48:53.000 Because he has an Amish raw milk supplier, I guess he was talking about.

01:48:57.000 And my joke was that the chicken amendment, we wrote it up to be silly and to be in the style of how they would have written it a long time ago in reflecting the second amendment, which is the joke, but that it would be interpreted to mean more than chickens.

01:49:11.000 That is...

01:49:12.000 Individuals should have the right to grow their own food and consume as they see fit without government interference.

01:49:17.000 That would need to be codified because that is infringed upon every single day in this country.

01:49:22.000 Absolutely.

01:49:23.000 Yeah, I'm a big raw milk fan.

01:49:25.000 I don't have chickens yet.

01:49:27.000 How are you using raw milk these days?

01:49:29.000 I'm still against it.

01:49:31.000 Actually, I'm with Matt on this one.

01:49:34.000 I like my milk without bacteria.

01:49:37.000 It's good bacteria, man.

01:49:38.000 We like it.

01:49:40.000 My toddler and I both...

01:49:41.000 Chug raw milk.

01:49:43.000 Very nourishing.

01:49:44.000 All three of my kids and us, we've been doing it for 10 years.

01:49:46.000 If I'm getting milk, I always say, hold the E. coli.

01:49:50.000 You've got to embrace the E. coli.

01:49:51.000 There's different types of E. coli.

01:49:53.000 Matt, do you believe that it should be illegal to buy raw milk? 0.62

01:49:58.000 Illegal, and anyone who has it should be shot on the spot. 0.80

01:50:01.000 Oh, no! 0.81

01:50:03.000 No, I don't think it should be illegal.

01:50:06.000 If you want to consume cow feces...

01:50:09.000 I think you should have the right to do so.

01:50:11.000 Have you tried it?

01:50:12.000 I did.

01:50:13.000 It's really good.

01:50:14.000 I mean, what about sushi?

01:50:17.000 I was on Alex Clark's podcast and she gave me raw milk.

01:50:22.000 And made you watch anime?

01:50:24.000 We don't do that.

01:50:26.000 We don't do that.

01:50:27.000 We got standards.

01:50:29.000 I drank it.

01:50:30.000 I could feel my throat closing up.

01:50:31.000 It was a near-death experience.

01:50:34.000 Might have been killing a lot of the bad stuff on you.

01:50:35.000 I don't know.

01:50:36.000 We have a lot of farms out by us.

01:50:39.000 And they have to sell it as pet milk, which literally says not for human consumption.

01:50:44.000 And everybody knows exactly what it is.

01:50:46.000 But I'm actually with Matt.

01:50:47.000 I'm not a big raw milk person.

01:50:49.000 I don't like the generic store-bought plastic stuff.

01:50:53.000 I like getting good organic milk, but pasteurized.

01:50:56.000 The truth is, I don't drink milk at all, because I'm not eight.

01:51:00.000 So someone said something to me.

01:51:03.000 But what if you're eating peanut butter?

01:51:05.000 I'm breastfeeding.

01:51:06.000 So I think the more interesting contrarian view on milk is what someone told me that, well, really, humans shouldn't be drinking cow's milk at all.

01:51:19.000 God gave us dominion over this earth.

01:51:21.000 That includes...

01:51:22.000 Cow milk.

01:51:23.000 This is not my argument.

01:51:25.000 I'm just testing the water.

01:51:27.000 No other mammal drinks milk past childhood, and no other mammal drinks the milk of another species.

01:51:37.000 They also don't have philosophy departments.

01:51:40.000 That's not true.

01:51:40.000 Animals will drink other animals' milk.

01:51:42.000 They just don't harvest it and then bring it to their families.

01:51:46.000 Because they're not smart enough.

01:51:47.000 Well, that's what this guy said, I thought.

01:51:49.000 It was an interesting contrarian.

01:51:51.000 That's a vegan argument is what that is.

01:51:53.000 That is a hardcore vegan.

01:51:55.000 All you gotta do is scroll Instagram long enough.

01:51:57.000 I'm accidentally a vegan.

01:51:58.000 All you gotta do is scroll Instagram long enough and you will find one of these stories where it's like a mama cat adopted an orphaned mammal of some sort and things like this.

01:52:06.000 Yeah, but the adult animal of that species doesn't drink milk.

01:52:10.000 Oh, that's true.

01:52:11.000 That is totally true.

01:52:12.000 They evolved to drinking their blood and eating their meat.

01:52:14.000 But to be fair, humans eat a lot of things.

01:52:18.000 That animals would never go near.

01:52:20.000 Like cheesecake?

01:52:21.000 Well, I mean, we've invented weird, disgusting chemical additives to foods.

01:52:27.000 Red guy, number four?

01:52:28.000 Put cheesecake in front of your dog and tell me your dog doesn't eat cheesecake. 1.00

01:52:31.000 Is the idea about raw milk that it's more prone to getting overly bacterified?

01:52:38.000 The deal with raw milk is...

01:52:40.000 You don't want raw milk from some gross city factory farm. 0.79

01:52:44.000 You want it only from a place that's clean, which is how people used to consume milk.

01:52:49.000 Pasteurization happened once factory farming happened.

01:52:51.000 And I'm not trashing factory farming.

01:52:53.000 I'm just saying when you cram a bunch of animals together like that, you have to be extra clean because things get kind of nasty.

01:53:00.000 But I would argue that there's no such thing as a clean farm. 0.99

01:53:05.000 There's animal shit all over the place. 0.98

01:53:06.000 Well, there's different definitions of clean. 0.99

01:53:08.000 I support stem cell meat growth because you're bypassing all the feces going through that cow. 0.99

01:53:13.000 You don't have to eat the garbage crap. 0.99

01:53:15.000 I'll pass on that, but I love that for you. 0.98

01:53:18.000 Alright, let's grab this one from Hitman.

01:53:19.000 Zarelli says, Lena Del Rey is honestly in my top five artists.

01:53:22.000 Dean Martin, Molchet Doma, Big Al Downing, Lena Del Rey, Selena.

01:53:27.000 Listen to Brooklyn Girl, West Coast, Salvatore, Diet Dew Mountain.

01:53:32.000 Diet Dew?

01:53:33.000 Mountain Phil?

01:53:34.000 Is that what it is?

01:53:35.000 We'll know what I'm talking about.

01:53:36.000 Oh, Phil will know what I'm talking about.

01:53:37.000 Diet Dew Mountain.

01:53:38.000 Okay.

01:53:38.000 There's no commas, so I was trying to figure out what you're saying.

01:53:40.000 Diet Dew Mountain.

01:53:40.000 Are you familiar with that?

01:53:42.000 No, not at all.

01:53:43.000 Lana Del Rey's cover of Country Roads is incredible.

01:53:46.000 Lana Del Rey is incredible. 0.92

01:53:47.000 It's really good.

01:53:49.000 I think she's good.

01:53:50.000 I'm not a fan, but just because I don't like her music doesn't mean I think it's bad.

01:53:53.000 I thought I heard video games.

01:53:54.000 I thought it was long, slow, and boring, but I mean, it was kind of good.

01:53:57.000 I'm offended by video games because it's a really good melodic song with the worst lyrics imaginable.

01:54:03.000 You know the song?

01:54:04.000 I don't know the song, no.

01:54:05.000 Okay, so it's like this really great melody that's very heartfelt, and the lyrics are like, it's you, it's you, it's all for you.

01:54:10.000 But she's actually singing about just putting on a skimpy outfit while her boyfriend drinks and plays video games, and she goes down on him.

01:54:16.000 And I'm like, you know, if she actually wrote, like, my husband came back from war, and I was longing for him, and I was scared and terrified, I've done all of this for you.

01:54:27.000 I'd be like, wow, that's such an amazing song.

01:54:29.000 Who is this, Lana Del Rey we're talking about?

01:54:30.000 Yeah.

01:54:31.000 She married the alligator guy.

01:54:33.000 That's right.

01:54:33.000 Good for her.

01:54:34.000 I don't know who that is.

01:54:35.000 Who's the alligator guy?

01:54:36.000 She married just some normal dude. 1.00

01:54:40.000 A swamp tour guy.

01:54:43.000 An airboat.

01:54:44.000 I gotta be honest, he's a normal dude.

01:54:46.000 That sounds like the coolest job ever.

01:54:48.000 Driving around.

01:54:49.000 Normal dude as in not a Hollywood guy.

01:54:51.000 Not a Hollywood weirdo.

01:54:53.000 Is it Florida or Louisiana?

01:54:54.000 It's very Florida man vibes.

01:54:56.000 I don't know where he's from.

01:54:58.000 I mean, riding around on, what are those things called?

01:55:01.000 Airboats.

01:55:02.000 Airboats?

01:55:02.000 Yeah.

01:55:02.000 Chasing alligators?

01:55:03.000 Is that what has big fans on the back?

01:55:05.000 Honestly, that was my second choice after podcaster.

01:55:07.000 It's the American dream.

01:55:08.000 You could podcast from the boat.

01:55:10.000 I actually stay up at night staring at the ceiling thinking about what could have been.

01:55:15.000 Alright, let's...

01:55:16.000 Donna Linnae says, The left sees criminals as victims of society.

01:55:21.000 Had they not been treated unfairly by society, they wouldn't be committing crimes.

01:55:25.000 I know that's how we logically view it.

01:55:28.000 But I largely think they are just NPCs that simply hate you.

01:55:33.000 We often try to apply logic to their actions to understand it, but sometimes there is no logic to be applied.

01:55:40.000 They are simply contrarians who say right-wing bad, and whatever you are for, they're against.

01:55:45.000 There are, like, instances where someone's forced into committing a crime to survive.

01:55:50.000 I mean, that does happen, but I don't think that's generally the problem.

01:55:53.000 What's the minority?

01:55:54.000 The community gets racist, and they're like, don't sell him any products, and he's like, can't get food anywhere.

01:55:59.000 Do you believe that happens?

01:56:00.000 I'm sure in the world that kind of thing can happen.

01:56:02.000 In world history, you have crimes of survival.

01:56:06.000 In the United States, do you believe that happens?

01:56:09.000 I disagree.

01:56:10.000 I understand the point you're making.

01:56:12.000 But it is still a choice.

01:56:14.000 You're not being forced into it.

01:56:15.000 But even evil laws...

01:56:16.000 So, if I actually had...

01:56:20.000 If I was starving and my children were starving and someone had food and I went up and asked them for the food and they wouldn't give me any, I would then steal it from them.

01:56:30.000 I would rob them and take the food.

01:56:33.000 Like a good dad. 0.89

01:56:34.000 Right.

01:56:35.000 So that my child will survive.

01:56:36.000 I care more about my kids surviving than I do about the law.

01:56:39.000 But that scenario is not happening.

01:56:42.000 In modern America.

01:56:43.000 But my point is just that I understand you feel forced to do so because you have a great calling to protect your children, but it's still a choice.

01:56:51.000 Yeah, it is a choice, yeah.

01:56:52.000 Because you could literally say, we're going to go in the woods and rough it and forage and hunt and figure it out.

01:56:57.000 The idea that there was...

01:56:58.000 It's crazy to me that humans throughout all of history figured it out, but now with civilization, with this scenario where it's like, I had no choice but to rob the marketplace.

01:57:07.000 Well, we forgot how to figure it out.

01:57:09.000 That's a lost art right there.

01:57:11.000 Perhaps.

01:57:12.000 I mean, I think, though, like when it comes to criminals, I think that we do tend to have more compassion for people who are younger.

01:57:18.000 We feel that their minds are not fully developed.

01:57:21.000 They were in bad situations with their parents.

01:57:24.000 We have more compassion for younger people.

01:57:25.000 We don't have a lot of compassion for eight-time felons who are out murdering people to the point that it becomes like a sick meme.

01:57:33.000 So, you know, that's a big, I think, distinction between people who are diehard progressives and everyone else.

01:57:40.000 All right.

01:57:41.000 Ted Thornton says, Americans, until Gen Z and Alpha, have had Judeo-Christian morals as a foundation.

01:57:47.000 America is a Christian nation.

01:57:49.000 The overwhelming, even among liberals, secular liberals, in the 90s and millennials today, they don't know it, but they have Judeo-Christian moral foundations.

01:58:00.000 Bill Maher, who is the host of Religious, has Christian moral foundations.

01:58:06.000 And I think...

01:58:08.000 I don't know to what extent he's actually researched his values and where they come from, but they come from the Christian moral tradition.

01:58:15.000 The easiest way to understand it is go to any Eastern Hemisphere country and ask them why they don't have the Fifth Amendment, why they don't have speedy trials, why they don't have a right to confront their accusers.

01:58:23.000 Charity.

01:58:24.000 501c3s. 0.97

01:58:24.000 Charity is a Catholic virtue. 0.97

01:58:28.000 It's the opposite of greed.

01:58:30.000 It's codified into law that it's not taxable.

01:58:33.000 And do you know why we have 501c3s?

01:58:35.000 They are tax-coded versions of the church.

01:58:39.000 Churches are tax-exempt.

01:58:40.000 We are allowed to see what they do with their funds, and they can't engage in politics.

01:58:43.000 And when these liberals say, wow, these churches shouldn't be allowed to do this, that, or otherwise, I'm like, okay, if you want to ban that, if you want to say churches shouldn't be tax-exempt, because that was a big argument liberals were putting forth for a while, I'll say, totally correct, and we'll get rid of 501c3s at the same time.

01:58:57.000 I could see the charitable aspects of churches being tax-free, but other aspects of the churches being taxed.

01:59:03.000 Like what?

01:59:05.000 Tithing?

01:59:06.000 I don't know.

01:59:07.000 Do they take money from...

01:59:08.000 Well, you should be able to donate through their 501c3 then or something.

01:59:13.000 So it's tithing?

01:59:14.000 I don't know.

01:59:14.000 Tithing is...

01:59:15.000 I think it's different.

01:59:15.000 What's the part that should be taxed?

01:59:17.000 What's the action they take that should be taxed?

01:59:20.000 You know, that's a good question because I don't know all of the ways that churches make money.

01:59:25.000 Does Joel Osteen get ad revenue when he...

01:59:27.000 Well, not everyone's Joel Osteen.

01:59:29.000 But does he get ad revenue when he does his TV show?

01:59:31.000 Because that should be taxed.

01:59:32.000 Interesting.

01:59:33.000 Sponsorships?

01:59:35.000 I disagree.

01:59:36.000 He's a bad example.

01:59:38.000 Churches like Joel Osteen's church, those are like a handful of churches, and there are millions of churches in the country.

01:59:44.000 I grew up with my dad as a pastor, and we had lower middle income.

01:59:50.000 It was a small church.

01:59:53.000 The vast majority of churches are not rolling in cash.

01:59:55.000 Although I'm...

01:59:56.000 We would agree on this, I think.

01:59:58.000 I would just say get rid of all income taxes.

02:00:00.000 I heard Trump is tending that.

02:00:03.000 I don't know if it was fake news.

02:00:04.000 Did you see that?

02:00:05.000 I don't think that's going to happen.

02:00:08.000 But that would be...

02:00:10.000 He would automatically go down as the greatest president of America.

02:00:13.000 That's a beautiful idea.

02:00:16.000 Well, my friends, it's been amazing.

02:00:19.000 But as I mentioned, we have a hard stop.

02:00:21.000 We are going to be heading back to our home studio.

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02:01:11.000 Masterpiece.

02:01:12.000 10 out of 10. It is a resurgence of comedy films that we have not seen in decades because they've all become trash. 0.94

02:01:18.000 Was it a wig? 0.89

02:01:19.000 Was it with the top knot?

02:01:21.000 I was awake.

02:01:22.000 So good.

02:01:23.000 There's a Matt Walsh fight scene.

02:01:25.000 I recommend it.

02:01:26.000 It was really good.

02:01:27.000 It's a real action choreography.

02:01:28.000 I was in a packed theater and everybody couldn't stop laughing.

02:01:30.000 Really good stuff. 0.95

02:01:31.000 That's some balls, brother. 0.56

02:01:32.000 That's awesome, man. 0.98

02:01:33.000 That's like full Borat.

02:01:35.000 Anyway, I'm fanboying a little.

02:01:37.000 If you are interested in the Libertarian Party, if you're interested in preserving the work that I've done, if you're passionate about Ross Ulbricht's liberation from prison, if you are big on Bitcoin, if you hate the Federal Reserve, if you like the work I've done and you want me to be able to keep doing it and making the Libertarian Party based, please donate.

02:01:55.000 Please show your appreciation for the work I've done to get Ross freed by donating at lp.org.

02:02:00.000 We need the support right now.

02:02:02.000 We need your help to keep going.

02:02:03.000 I will also have a tell-all book coming out soon, and you can follow me on Twitter at Angela4LNCChair.

02:02:10.000 Sweet.

02:02:11.000 You can follow me online at Shane Cashman, and I host Inverted World Live every Sunday.

02:02:15.000 We are anxiously awaiting the JFK paper release and the drone release.

02:02:18.000 I like all those things.

02:02:19.000 We'll be going over them on the show as soon as they come out.

02:02:21.000 Ian?

02:02:21.000 Yeah, Matt.

02:02:22.000 Also, Matt Walsh blog on Twitter.

02:02:24.000 If you want to follow Matt on Twitter, follow him there.

02:02:25.000 Thank you.

02:02:26.000 Yeah, oh yeah, baby.

02:02:27.000 I'm at Ian Crossland and follow me as well.

02:02:29.000 It's great to be here.

02:02:30.000 Thank you for having me down here, Tim.

02:02:31.000 Phil, good to see you.

02:02:32.000 Everybody, follow everybody here.

02:02:34.000 Just so everyone knows, Angela is the most effective LP chair possibly in history. 0.99

02:02:39.000 She's done more for the party and more for America than any other LP chair ever at all.

02:02:46.000 And I want to stress this.

02:02:48.000 Thank you.

02:02:50.000 Played a big role in getting Trump elected.

02:02:51.000 Yeah.

02:02:52.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:02:52.000 That commitment to pardon Ross Ulbricht may have generated a decent, solid percentage point more or more of votes for Trump.

02:03:00.000 Got the Bitcoin community off the couch, too.

02:03:02.000 It was not a debate between Trump and Harris.

02:03:04.000 It was a debate between Trump and not voting, and that energized that base.

02:03:08.000 So, Phil, just...

02:03:08.000 I am PhilTheRemains on Twix.

02:03:10.000 You can subscribe to my page there.

02:03:12.000 I'm PhilTheRemainsOfficial on Instagram.

02:03:14.000 The band is all that remains.

02:03:15.000 New record drops January 31st.

02:03:17.000 It's called Anti-Fragile.

02:03:18.000 If you want to check out a few songs, you can check out Forever Cold, Let You Go, Know Tomorrow, and Divine.

02:03:21.000 They're available on YouTube, Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, and Deezer.

02:03:24.000 Go to Spotify right now and pre-save, and don't forget, the left lane is for crime.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 23, 2025

Trump ENDS All DEI Departments, FIRES Staff, Deportation HAVE BEGUN w-Matt Walsh | Timcast IRL

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