Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump FBI Raids John Bolton Amid Classified Docs Investigation

00:01:27.000 The FBI raided John Bolton's house today over suspected classified documents.

00:01:32.000 So it seems like everyone that's ever been in the federal government has decided that classified documents are actually their documents and they're going to take them home.

00:01:39.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:40.000 Ghislaine Maxwell said Epstein didn't kill himself.

00:01:42.000 So that adds her voice to the chorus of people that have said the same thing.

00:01:47.000 We'll get into that a little bit.

00:01:48.000 Kilmar Obrego Garcia has been released from federal custody in Tennessee.

00:01:52.000 He has not been.

00:01:53.000 He has been sent to Maryland, but he but he hasn't been deported.

00:01:55.000 I don't know why, so we'll complain about that.

00:01:58.000 And then the Feds kind of decided they're going to go ahead and nationalize Intel, like ten percent of it.

00:02:02.000 I don't know if that's a good idea, but maybe it is.

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00:03:10.000 Hey, Phil, thanks for being here today.

00:03:13.000 First time, long time listener, first time caller, great to be in the studio.

00:03:16.000 I'm William Wolfe.

00:03:17.000 I'm the executive director of the Center for Baptist Leadership.

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00:03:24.000 I want to give a shout out to my wonderful wife Lauren and my three boys, Evan, Jack and Daniel, who I think are watching live at home right now.

00:03:32.000 Awesome, thank you for joining us.

00:03:33.000 Really?

00:03:34.000 And you've spent a lot of time in DC, like you've been deep within.

00:03:37.000 Yes.

00:03:38.000 Ten years in Washington, DC, worked for three different members of Congress, worked for Heritage Action, and was a political pointee in the first Trump administration at State and DOD.

00:03:48.000 I say I did 45 for 45.

00:03:50.000 I was in for almost all four years.

00:03:52.000 Honor of a lifetime.

00:03:53.000 Good to meet you, man.

00:03:54.000 I'm Ian Crossell.

00:03:55.000 Happy to be here.

00:03:56.000 I'm an actor, social media entrepreneur, been in social media since 1998.

00:04:00.000 I was realizing last night when we started doing I started building email chains for my high school friends in college to keep us all connected through social media.

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00:04:12.000 Now let's make our own.

00:04:14.000 Libby.

00:04:15.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

00:04:16.000 I'm here from the Postmillennial and Human Events.

00:04:18.000 Glad to be here.

00:04:19.000 Let's get into it.

00:04:20.000 Okay.

00:04:20.000 So we're going to start off with this about John Bolton from the AP.

00:04:24.000 FBI searches home and office of exe Ex Trump National Security Advisor John Bolton.

00:04:30.000 The FBI on Friday searched the Maryland home and Washington office of Ex Trump Administration National Security Advisor John Bolton as part of a criminal investigation into the potential mishandling of classified information, a person familiar with the matter said.

00:04:43.000 Bolton, who emerged as a spoken critic of Donald Trump after being fired in 2019 and fought with the first Trump administration over a scathing book he wrote documenting his time in the White House, was not in custody Friday and has not been charged with any crimes, said the person who is not authorized to discuss the investigation by name and spoke to the Associated Press on the condition of anonymity.

00:05:03.000 The search is apparently the most significant public step the Justice Department has taken against a perceived enemy of the president are likely to elicit fresh concerns that the Trump administration is using its law enforcement powers to target the Republican folks.

00:05:15.000 I can hardly even say that without chuckling considering how they targeted Donald Trump when he was out of office.

00:05:20.000 They go on to say they come they come as the Trump administration has moved to examine the activities of other critics including by authorizing a grand jury investigation into the origins of the Trump Russia probe that dogged Trump that dogged much Trump for much of his first term and as FBI and justice department leaders signal their loyalty to the president.

00:05:40.000 So this is I mean, it's nice to see, right?

00:05:43.000 If if he's actually violated the law which they're you know doing an investigation.ation that's perfectly on the up and up.

00:05:48.000 It's nice to see that the Trump administration, the DOJ, is actually applying pressure to people that have been not just critical, but they've had questionable dealings with the administration previously.

00:06:02.000 Do you guys think that this is actually going to materialize in anything considering that Bolton himself is not even under arrest or I'm not even sure if there's anything more than just searching his house now.

00:06:13.000 You want to take it away?

00:06:14.000 Yeah, well I'd say, John Bolton has never met an invasion he didn't like.

00:06:18.000 Yeah.

00:06:18.000 Until this morning when the FBI showed up at his home, right?

00:06:21.000 And really what's happening here is they're picking up.

00:06:24.000 This Trump administration is picking up on a former Trump administration Department of Justice investigation into Bolton's potential leakage handling of classified information in his book.

00:06:36.000 I just have to say the irony is really thick because when Trump was getting, you know, what raided and, you know, prosecuted for his handling of classified information, which he's a president and he can do, John Bolton said, well, Trump is very careless with this information.

00:06:51.000 So I guess we're about to find out who's really careless now.

00:06:54.000 Yeah, if this is, if I understand correctly, this is pertaining to, like, William said, his book.

00:07:00.000 Right.

00:07:01.000 That was questionable in the first place when the book was released, right?

00:07:04.000 Right.

00:07:04.000 I mean, there were some concerns early on.

00:07:06.000 This is something Jack Sobik and I were talking about today.

00:07:08.000 There were concerns early on in 2020 that when he released his book, perhaps he had used classified information to construct that book, which was called The Room Where It Happens, which I think is funny because he basically ripped that off from Hamilton because that's, you know, that's Aaron Burr's song in the show.

00:07:25.000 I love the show, but whatever.

00:07:28.000 So there were concerns about that that it had been leaked while it was still in pre-publication, leaked to the New York Times.

00:07:34.000 And there were also concerns that he was every night apparently taking notes from his classified documents at the office and taking those notes home.

00:07:44.000 So I think that it's, you know, I think it's certainly interesting to see what will happen with this.

00:07:49.000 There's also arguments to be made that, you know, maybe there are too many classified documents.

00:07:57.000 You know, this is something that we've heard Tucker Carlson say over the years, maybe there's too many classified documents.

00:08:02.000 But also, I was watching MSNBC today looking for something.

00:08:06.000 And this woman was talking about how, you know, it's rich for Trump to be talking about classified documents since he had absconded with them.

00:08:16.000 And she didn't mention at all that, of course, there's the Pres Presidential Records Act and the president can take classified documents and every president has taken classified documents.

00:08:24.000 I mean, there's even the Bill Clinton Socks case about how, you know, the president can keep classified documents in his sock drawer if he so chooses.

00:08:33.000 But yeah, I think that I think it'll be interesting to see how it plays out and also this is a case that this is not a new case.

00:08:41.000 So to say that this is an intentional political prosecution now, this was a case that the Trump DOJ brought in 2020 and the Biden DOJ dropped it.

00:08:50.000 That's right.

00:08:51.000 It's like bringing it back.

00:08:53.000 When Bolton's book was coming out, they made her pass.

00:08:56.000 They made a pass at blocking it, right?

00:08:58.000 And it didn't, it didn't go through.

00:09:00.000 The judge didn't grant them that.

00:09:02.000 But, you know, Bolton's book, not only was it incredibly negative towards the president, again, Bolton thinks something like diplomacy is a dirty word.

00:09:10.000 He'd rather drop bombs instead of having talks.

00:09:13.000 But this does raise the question of classified information.

00:09:17.000 Classified information is this sort of currency in Washington, DC, right?

00:09:21.000 Everybody loves to get and leak classified information and everybody does it.

00:09:26.000 I mean, both sides do it.

00:09:28.000 Republicans do it.

00:09:28.000 Democrats do it.

00:09:29.000 And how it's going to be weaponized is a question here.

00:09:32.000 But Bolton is again coming face to face with the fact that no matter how much he wants to be, he is not.

00:09:38.000 He's not and will never be the president and Donald Trump has been and is.

00:09:43.000 Right.

00:09:44.000 You know, you guys mentioned the overclassification.

00:09:46.000 I think that's kind of typical of DC, if I understand correctly.

00:09:51.000 And it's because they don't want people to ask questions or they at least don't want to have to answer questions.

00:09:57.000 So the more the bureaucracy can actually get classified, the better they like it because they can just, you know, brush off questions they don't have to answer.

00:10:05.000 And then if they, if there's ever a time where their feet are held to the fire, they can just say, well, look, it's classified.

00:10:11.000 I can't talk about it.

00:10:12.000 You know, and it's not, it's not my, my fault.

00:10:14.000 I'm not trying to hide anything.

00:10:15.000 It's just that this is a class, this is classified information.

00:10:18.000 They also pulled Bolton's security clearance and they did that in January.

00:10:23.000 And so this government, this administration is tightening things up.

00:10:27.000 And I think that makes a lot of sense because how sick are you of opening some story from the AP or wherever else that says unnamed, unauthorized sources, you know, familiar with the matter who are unauthorized to speak on it.

00:10:40.000 And so they're speaking with anonymity.

00:10:43.000 Like this is something that, you know, when you're reporting on things, you keep looking at this and you're like, why do I believe you and your weird fake sources?

00:10:52.000 Who are these people?

00:10:55.000 does the amount of classified information and how readily it's leaked by someone that just doesn't have to say their name, does that turn classified information into a currency?

00:11:05.000 Does it make it something that people can look at and say, well, I can get favor with this particular media outlet or what have you?

00:11:13.000 Well, yeah, not just a currency, but also a weapon.

00:11:16.000 Like what you were just saying is that, you know, they can, I mean, Trump has been now in almost a decade long battle against the deep state who have primarily used intelligence agencies, so called classified information, falsified classified reports, the whole Russia gate.

00:11:33.000 hoax to attack him and undercut him.

00:11:36.000 And so, look, I mean, I trust that Bondi and Cash Patel are doing the right thing here.

00:11:41.000 They wouldn't, they wouldn't be doing this just to try to get back on John Bolton of all the bad actors out there.

00:11:46.000 I mean, he's a bad one, but there's worse ones.

00:11:49.000 So I would assume they have a legitimate reason to pick up on this investigation.

00:11:52.000 But that said, it is, it is nice to see the Trump administration going after the really bad actors from the first admin.

00:11:59.000 To your point, like John Bolton as a bad actor, it's really more people saying they have a policy difference, you know, different approach than John Bolton who, yes, I mean.

00:12:10.000 Mr. Bolton, who yes, I mean, you made it clear that he's a hawkish kind of guy and he thinks that flexing American military might is the best type of foreign policy.

00:12:20.000 But that's different to someone like, say, Schiff, who was literally lying about Donald Trump, lying about what information was out there regarding the Russia probe, lying to not just to make people think that Trump was guilty of something that he hadn't done, but to actually try to get some kind of legal ramifications on the president.

00:12:43.000 In that, along that line, you'd think that maybe that classified information, if it's accidentally taken home.

00:12:49.000 would be treated much less of a crime than if someone's maliciously utilizing it to or using fake, classifying something that's not real or saying they got, you know.

00:12:58.000 Do you think that this stuff that we've heard has been accidentally taken home generally?

00:13:02.000 I mean, we got No, I don't know what the Biden and his I don't think Bolton does anything accidentally.

00:13:06.000 Yeah, I don't think a lot of it has been people want to write their books, right?

00:13:11.000 Like Obama took stuff home to write his book.

00:13:13.000 Biden took stuff home to write his book.

00:13:15.000 This guy, Bolton took stuff home, you know, probably to write his book.

00:13:20.000 And I think that's what, that's a lot of what it is.

00:13:22.000 When stuff gets like this, this is how politicians get rich from their time.

00:13:27.000 in office.

00:13:27.000 Oh, selling secrets?

00:13:28.000 Million dollars.

00:13:29.000 They sell their books.

00:13:30.000 If it's like slipped in a box when they're carrying their stuff out and then it lands in their garage, that is like much less of a crime.

00:13:36.000 No, no, no.

00:13:37.000 With Biden, with Biden, it was boxes and boxes of documents.

00:13:40.000 It wasn't like just one classified document and then everything else was fine.

00:13:44.000 What was it with Trump at Marlago?

00:13:46.000 Trump was it was stuff that he took home, but he was the president.

00:13:50.000 He has the right to declassify things and presidents take stuff home.

00:13:54.000 Yeah, I think that's like what presidents do.

00:13:57.000 And then what happened was the FBI, when they were framing up their case, they literally framed up their case.

00:14:03.000 They put in cover sheets.

00:14:04.000 They took all this stuff and organized it in specific ways for their own purposes and took photographs of it.

00:14:10.000 They were essentially tampering with evidence to try and sway the public towards the idea that Trump had absconded illegally with classified documents.

00:14:18.000 Like they unsecured the evidence and then took pictures of it in an unsecured state.

00:14:21.000 Yeah.

00:14:22.000 Playing that he well, they staged it to make it worse than it was.

00:14:24.000 Yeah, they staged it.

00:14:24.000 So I think two points on the Bolton thing, Phil, I think what's going on here with Bolton is not just policy differences, it's that Bolton uses this information, I think, in a particularly malicious way to malign and undercut Donald Trump in his memoirs.

00:14:39.000 And in that sense, it's not just a policy difference, but it really is this ongoing and hopefully nearing an end struggle between the last gasp of the neocons who view Donald Trump, rightly so, as a repudiation of multi decades of their failed foreign policy.

00:14:57.000 So it's not just a policy disagreement.

00:14:59.000 They want to try to put a stake in the heart of MAGA if they can.

00:15:02.000 And then the second thing I would say too is that, look, I appreciate that in many ways we're going tit for tat because we're either going to have equal justice under the law or we're going to have a two tier justice system.

00:15:14.000 We're only Republicans or only Donald Trump, you know, or only Trump's associates get prosecuted and persecuted for these things.

00:15:21.000 So it's good to see it going the other way.

00:15:23.000 So to your point about trying to put a stake in the heart of MAGA or whatever, or a fight between MAGA and neocons.

00:15:30.000 I think that it's fairly obvious that the neocons are just going over to the Democratic Party, whether it be John Bolton or Bill Crystal or any of the guys at the Lincoln Project, they're all Democrats now, and even if they haven't officially changed their parties, they are they're not just people like Joe Walsh, they're not just, you know, saying I'm a Republican or a Conservative and Donald Trump isn't a Conservative.

00:15:56.000 They're actually promoting policies that the Democrats promote, right?

00:15:59.000 And whether that have nothing to do with, with, with, with the Democrats.

00:16:02.000 with Donald Trump, right?

00:16:04.000 Or that have nothing to do with conservatism.

00:16:06.000 I saw Joe Walsh posting about very pro immigration kind of things, like he's wrong to deport people.

00:16:14.000 And when you when you're doing that kind of stuff as a Republican or as a former Republican, you're you're definitely not a Republican.

00:16:20.000 It's not even a rhino situation.

00:16:22.000 It's you're actually aligning with the Democrats because you don't like Donald Trump.

00:16:26.000 Yeah, well, David French voted for Kamala Harris to save conservatism from itself, whatever that means.

00:16:32.000 Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous.

00:16:33.000 All of them are going down this path.

00:16:36.000 Yeah.

00:16:36.000 And so I think that it's more about trying to stay in the good graces of the bureaucracy in Washington than it is about having any kind of principled ideas that are conservative, you know, based in conservatism.

00:16:49.000 Well, there's a huge, there's a huge sort of disagreement about what conservatism is at this point, right?

00:16:56.000 Because you have some like, what's conservatism?

00:16:58.000 It's the idea of conserving things.

00:17:01.000 And you have a situation now where most conservatives are really opposed to the conservation of American institutions that have been so poisoned by leftism that they're basically useless.

00:17:10.000 And so the establishment conservatives are like, oh, we still how could you say that there's something wrong with the Smithsonian?

00:17:17.000 It's like, well, it's whiteness.

00:17:19.000 is the root of all evil, so kind of there's something wrong with it because it's racial.

00:17:22.000 Look, open your eyes to that.

00:17:23.000 Yes, exactly.

00:17:24.000 But so I think that that is a big split.

00:17:27.000 And so the conservatives who are like, oh, Harvard is still amazing and it's still a bastion of American educational supremacy, which it kind of just isn't anymore, those conservatives are going to align themselves with Kamala Harris.

00:17:41.000 Those conservatives are going to align themselves with Forever Wars, which is how, you know, all of these places stay funded anyway.

00:17:47.000 And then the conservatives who want to actually preserve like American supremacy and American exceptionalism and want to make sure that the United States is a prosperous home for our children's future, that's kind of a different kind of conservatism now than the history of what we've had for the past fifty years.

00:18:07.000 You want to conserve American Republicanism, Democratic Republicanism in that you want to preserve the ability of the people to choose their candidate.

00:18:14.000 And Kamala Harris was thrust upon us by the Industrial Order.

00:18:18.000 You would say the Democratic Party is not conservative at all, which is like, lol, of course.

00:18:22.000 But if they call themselves neoconservative, it's just a fake word they're using to mask their behavior.

00:18:26.000 If they're supporting a person that was put into power, like the super delegate system in the Democratic Party is an aberration of our system.

00:18:33.000 We're supposed to select our candidates.

00:18:36.000 It's very weird.

00:18:37.000 Yeah.

00:18:38.000 It is very antithetical to the system right now.

00:18:40.000 Anyway, Libby, I think you make a great point there too that ties directly to the Bolton thing.

00:18:44.000 And you can, you can even see it in this recent back and forth between Chris Rufo and Jonah Goldberg where Chris Rufo is saying, look, I'm going to use these tactics to subvert and destroy the left who have corrupted our institutions.

00:19:00.000 And even if it's messy, even if it's ugly, and Jonah Goldberg was like, well, what exactly are you conserving here?

00:19:05.000 And Rufo was like, well, what have you conserved?

00:19:08.000 Which is a great point here.

00:19:09.000 But I think, you know, the old school neocon conservatism would have said something like, even if Bolton.

00:19:17.000 misused, mishandled, was careless with classified information because of muh norms and muh decency, you just have to ignore it.

00:19:26.000 And Trump is like, no, if he broke the law, even if it looks like I'm quoting, quoting, doing a little political retribution here, that's how they'll spin it, I'm going to do it, like I have the power and you don't.

00:19:36.000 And so I think it really comes down to this new class of conservatives reckoning with how to rightly and in some ways unapologetically wield power for the good of the country.

00:19:46.000 Sure.

00:19:47.000 And you also have a situation where Democrats under the Biden administration did all of these things.

00:19:52.000 They persecuted Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro.

00:19:54.000 They put these men in jail, you know, and they went after who they perceived as political enemies of the Democrats repeatedly.

00:20:02.000 They went after Trump over and over again.

00:20:05.000 In Georgia, didn't they indict like nineteen people?

00:20:09.000 They claimed that the Trump campaign was a was like a REGO operation that it was intended to be a criminal enterprise, which is absolutely insane, you know?

00:20:18.000 They couldn't even get Diddy on that.

00:20:19.000 Like that's ludicrous.

00:20:21.000 And so I think that what happened now, what's happening now is Trump is like and the Trump administration, okay, you made new rules.

00:20:29.000 We're going to follow the new rules.

00:20:30.000 I wasn't in favor of the new rules that as they were made under Biden.

00:20:34.000 I'm not super in favor of them now, but like these are the rules now, you guys, you stupid idiots.

00:20:40.000 And now you're going to suffer the consequences of your own stupid idiot rules.

00:20:44.000 88 felony charges at least pursued against Trump.

00:20:48.000 Many of them dropped, but others, you know, prosecuted all the way through, dozens of his associates rolled up over the last four years.

00:20:55.000 Not just associates, his lawyers, right?

00:20:57.000 Like in the United States, you're supposed to have your you have the right to counsel and they went after his lawyers for defending him.

00:21:04.000 That's incredibly easy.

00:21:05.000 That's exactly.

00:21:06.000 That's really, really that's kind of where it stops being about just getting.

00:21:11.000 people that they believe broke the law and they're literally punishing people for associating with Donald Trump, specifically, again, his lawyers, which is a constitutionally protected right.

00:21:21.000 You have the right to counsel.

00:21:23.000 And when the federal government not goes after your lawyers and indicts your lawyers and and accuses them of being part of a criminal enterprise just because they're defending you, that's going out of what is constitutionally, you know, what, what's constitutionally legal.

00:21:37.000 You know, what really concerns me is that maybe this, not that this happened, but the potential that the Democratic Party or whoever did broke the law, incited, did these things, went after political opponents.

00:21:48.000 in order to incite the other side to do it back to them so that we set a precedent now that as this new world order is coagulating, this is how the order is going to be.

00:21:56.000 You step out of line, you're going to prison, whatever that line is, and I'm the one drawing the line.

00:22:00.000 That's the stuff that happens in banana republics.

00:22:02.000 Like, that was one of the things that people Yeah, like we heard about this and you're right, you're you're totally right.

00:22:08.000 Like I agree.

00:22:09.000 That's what happens in third world countries.

00:22:11.000 The United States used to be above that stuff, but the behavior of the Democratic Party in response to Donald Trump, actually I think honestly, in response to realizing that they didn't have a permanent hold on the federal government when Barack Obama.

00:22:27.000 It could have been anyone other than it could have been anyone famous that people would have thought of the Trump role, you're right.

00:22:32.000 But the point that I'm making is I think that once, when Barack Obama was elected, the Democrats actually thought that they had a permanent, they thought they had it forever.

00:22:40.000 They thought that forever they were going to have a one party system, the Republicans were going to be a regional party and the real game was going to be who's going to win the Democrat primary because whoever wins that Democrat primary was automatically going to win.

00:22:53.000 And when they realized they didn't because Donald Trump won, they literally freaked out.

00:22:58.000 And instead of saying, how do we adjust our message?

00:23:00.000 How do we make sure that our next candidate is better than the Republican candidate?

00:23:05.000 How do we do this?

00:23:06.000 What they did was we need to use the ele levers of power that we still have access to in the federal government.

00:23:11.000 We need to use those levers of power to smear Donald Trump, do everything we can to put him in prison and make anyone that would try to run against us, fear for their freedom.

00:23:22.000 Make sure that they understand, if you try to challenge us, we are going to put you in jail.

00:23:27.000 And thank God it didn't work.

00:23:28.000 But they said that was the goal.

00:23:31.000 They said that repeatedly.

00:23:32.000 You could hear it.

00:23:33.000 Joe Biden, you know, thought that Trump would be in prison by the time the election rolled around.

00:23:39.000 That a lot of people Or someone told Joe Biden to think that.

00:23:42.000 Well, yes.

00:23:42.000 Someone told him to say it.

00:23:44.000 I don't know if he thought anything.

00:23:45.000 Like he was, you know, poor man'ss a disaster.

00:23:47.000 They should have taken better care of that fellow in that family.

00:23:50.000 They should have torn out.

00:23:51.000 I'm going back and disagree with that.

00:23:52.000 Just the fact that.

00:23:53.000 Yeah, go ahead, good.

00:23:54.000 Okay.

00:23:55.000 So I don't think they're doing it.

00:23:57.000 I don't think the Democrats did this to incite a reaction that would give them the ability to do something as a reaction to their action.

00:24:05.000 I think that this is how they've been fundamentally as a party for a long time.

00:24:10.000 They've been a post institutionalist party.

00:24:12.000 They actually don't care about our institutions.

00:24:15.000 They don't care about the procedures.

00:24:16.000 They don't care about norms.

00:24:18.000 They pretend to, but they care about power.

00:24:22.000 Just pure naked will to power stuff.

00:24:24.000 And I think when, you know, when Donald Trump ran and won in 2016 against all odds, it was a huge shock to the system.

00:24:33.000 And they said, what do we need to do to make sure this never happens again?

00:24:37.000 And so they did everything they could to ensure that, you know, some people might even say they released, you know, a worldwide pandemic to get him out of office in 2020 and then the law fair and then the assassination attempt.

00:24:49.000 And so now he's back against all odds in office again.

00:24:54.000 And so I think that they are realizing actually for the first time that the tables are being turned against them and they're not one hundred percent sure what to do with it.

00:25:02.000 So my point there is that I don't think it was they were trying to incite us to do the same thing.

00:25:07.000 I think Republicans are waking up to really and Trump in particular, not all Republicans, it's Trump.

00:25:12.000 I mean, look at what look at what happened when Trump got arrested in Georgia.

00:25:17.000 I mean, there were a lot of Republicans who didn't stand with him because a lot of Republicans were hoping that this actually was the end of the Trump.

00:25:24.000 I think they were hoping that it was a mix of hoping that it was the end of Trump, but also being afraid because there were a lot of people that had been Trump, you know, Trump allies that had already been put in jail and had already been through the ringer, you know.

00:25:38.000 So I think that I think you're right.

00:25:40.000 It was they were cowardly, but it wasn't just that they were hoping that Trump was gone, it was that they were terrified of the Democrats.

00:25:47.000 Right.

00:25:47.000 And so I think we are finally realizing that it's much more of a no holds, barred knife fight than we ever thought it was.

00:25:56.000 And Trump realizes that more than most Republicans do.

00:25:59.000 The liberal economy, it seems like the Democratic Party is the American, you know, vestige of the liberal economic order, which is essentially run by, you know, the British king.

00:26:07.000 I don't know who's running it.

00:26:09.000 The British emperor, I should say, because he's the king of Australia.

00:26:12.000 He's the king of Canada.

00:26:13.000 He's the king of England.

00:26:14.000 So he has a lot of kingdoms that makes him an emperor and the British Empire they've rebranded in 1998, you know, whatever they now call themselves a Commonwealth, but it seems like they tried to use their imperial authority to thrust not only Kamala Harris on us, but just use power to destroy American will and scare us into submission.

00:26:31.000 And the people didn't, Trump didn't bow down, the people didn't bow down, people stayed loud, the internet allowed us to get our word of independence out.

00:26:40.000 And it's sort of like if we can, because what's happening is this new world order is being created in front of us and the British, the people want top-down authority, they want to make sure it's static and it's ordered.

00:26:50.000 And the American revolutionary system is chaotic in a lot of ways.

00:26:54.000 You know, we self governance, you don't necessarily.

00:26:57.000 live like your neighbor lives.

00:26:59.000 And I think it's an opportunity now to kind of push American democratic republicanism on the world in a way that they want it, in a way that they see it is the best system on Earth.

00:27:08.000 That's why Jeff Bezos was able to create Amazon in the United States.

00:27:12.000 I kind of disagree with that.

00:27:14.000 I think that different cultures and different people want different things, and I think that Iraq was a good, was a good evidence of that.

00:27:20.000 Like we thought that, or at least the argument was made that when we went into Iraq we would be greeted as liberators and that the Iraqi people would want and embrace democracy.

00:27:32.000 That didn't happen at all.

00:27:33.000 And it's not because of anything that the United States did.

00:27:36.000 It's because the people in Iraq don don't want that kind of government.

00:27:40.000 They don't like it.

00:27:41.000 And I think that's something that's, you know, around the world, the different types of governments that are, that exist are largely because the people want it.

00:27:50.000 I want, I think what the most important aspects of what I want the world to adopt is freedom of speech, gun rights and property rights.

00:27:57.000 Yeah, those, those things don't exist in the world because the people, like, the people just don't desire them enough.

00:28:03.000 And they don't because they don't, they've never experienced it.

00:28:05.000 Once you experience it, there's no going back.

00:28:07.000 No, no, I disagree.

00:28:09.000 Jesus wouldn't.

00:28:11.000 No, people are different, Ian.

00:28:12.000 Like, and not everyone thinks like a Western.

00:28:14.000 People are different.

00:28:15.000 People from different parts of the world experience life and the world differently.

00:28:20.000 In North Korea, for instance, Yunmei, was it Yunmei Park?

00:28:23.000 Escaped, North Korean deserter and said in they don't have a word for love in North Korea on purpose because they don't want people to understand the concept and they don't.

00:28:30.000 And until she got away and she was like, What?

00:28:33.000 But that's not to say that you could go into North Korea and change North Korea into Kansas.

00:28:39.000 No, no, no.

00:28:40.000 It's not going to happen.

00:28:41.000 But if they get a taste, you get a taste of freedom.

00:28:43.000 You get a taste.

00:28:46.000 I strongly disagree because, like, go ahead.

00:28:48.000 You're going to know what you mean.

00:28:49.000 I was going to say, we tried to give the Afghans quite a bit of a taste of freedom and twenty years later they, they decided they wanted the Taliban back instead.

00:28:57.000 I mean, so Ian, I think what you're getting at there too is that the western order, western civilization, I mean, look, this is what I talk about, right, is the intersection of Christianity and politics in many ways.

00:29:08.000 It is rooted in and grounded in Christianity and even concepts like freedom of speech and ordered liberty and representative government.

00:29:17.000 A lot of this is drawn from the Christian tradition.

00:29:20.000 You can argue to certain things from natural law as well.

00:29:23.000 But yeah, I mean, you're right.

00:29:24.000 I mean, I think like you give people like freedom of speech and property rights.

00:29:28.000 A lot of people will want it, but it's also going to be contextualized to their situation, to their situation, to their cultures, to their history, to their religion, which plays a big part of it.

00:29:36.000 And I actually think, again, to bring this back to Bolton, like one of the failures of American foreign policy over the last many decades was this idea that we could just go around and sort of export americanism anywhere in the globe.

00:29:49.000 It's actually, honestly, it's been one of the biggest hubris of the American world order since World War two in many ways.

00:29:57.000 Like you have, you have, we also have this big problem where you have so many people in the world who do want americanism coming to America, right?

00:30:04.000 And then we end up with overflow here and we end up with a lot of illegal immigration.

00:30:09.000 So I think that there's certainly a lot of potenti people in the world who want what they think we have to offer, and that's fair, but I think that there should be incentives for those people to stay in their own countries and make those places more attractive.

00:30:22.000 Do you think that people want the things that America do you think that people want the freedom that America offers, or do you think that they want the security that America offers in comparison to just like the stuff?

00:30:32.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:30:34.000 In comparison to their home places and the benefits that the government, because that's my sense, right?

00:30:39.000 People that come here, they're not coming here because they are actually looking to become American and they're not saying I think it's both.

00:30:46.000 I think it's both.

00:30:47.000 I certainly think it's both.

00:30:48.000 When you have people coming, you know, from different places in the world, everyone has their different reasons.

00:30:53.000 I think we have a lot of people who have come here recently who want the security and the stuff and the three thousand dollars a month for housing.

00:31:02.000 And that's a big problem.

00:31:03.000 I mean, you can't have open borders and benefits for everyone, that's just not something that's sustainable.

00:31:10.000 But I do think that, I mean, as an American, as an American who grew up with the idea of American exceptionalism, you know, my parents arguing around the dinner table about which of the two candidates to choose, I believe it was Reagan or Mondale when I was a kid, this is what they were arguing about.

00:31:25.000 Phil knows.

00:31:26.000 I still know, but I do, I do, absolutely.

00:31:29.000 Well, actually, there wasn't really argument in my house, but I've been in the room.

00:31:32.000 there was only argument in my house.

00:31:34.000 But anyway, I definitely want America to be a beacon of freedom and liberty.

00:31:40.000 I want us to be, you know, I want us to have a lot of cool stuff and opportunity and opportunity for everyone in the world who wants to come here and do something cool.

00:31:50.000 Like, that's awesome, right?

00:31:52.000 Elon Musk is a guy with a lot of vision.

00:31:54.000 He wants to enact that vision in the US.

00:31:57.000 I don't agree with all his vision, but that's totally not the point.

00:31:59.000 And there's a ton of people like that.

00:32:01.000 And I think that's really worthwhile.

00:32:03.000 And that's something, I mean, that's definitely something I want as an American and that's something that I envision as something that's American, that are like American values.

00:32:12.000 You're reinforcing my desire to spread freedom of speech around the globe because we can't have everybody come here.

00:32:18.000 It just doesn't work.

00:32:20.000 I understand what you're saying.

00:32:22.000 And I kind of agree with you, but not in a military aspect.

00:32:25.000 No, not in a military aspect.

00:32:26.000 Like, if you remember, if you think about the Soviet Union, right, like people in the Soviet Union wanted Beatles records and blue jeans.

00:32:35.000 Cool.

00:32:36.000 Like, get Beatles records and blue jeans.

00:32:37.000 Like, look at Europe.

00:32:39.000 Cultural exports are huge.

00:32:41.000 Yeah, but guys, look, you look at Europe right now and like, the freedom of speechch is being taken away from those people, largely, and not, I don't know if it's a majority, but largely with the consent of the people.

00:32:54.000 So it's not the idea that we can just say, hey, look, we've got this great idea in the United States, and you guys should try it.

00:33:03.000 That, like, there's not a place on earth, or there are very few places on earth that don't have a conceptualization of what the freedom of speech in the United States is like.

00:33:13.000 No, they just don't have that in the UK.

00:33:15.000 I know they don't, but the point that I'm making is, the point that I'm making is, most of the world understands, and they have rejected that intentionally.

00:33:24.000 So this to my point, you can't just say, hey, you should have what you should want what we want, because they basically, especially in a global world that we have now, like we're not, we're not isolated nations like we used to be fifty years ago.

00:33:38.000 The internet has really brought, you know, made the world much smaller.

00:33:41.000 Most of the world at least has a conception of what it's like in the United States and what freedom of speech means here.

00:33:47.000 And most of the world has rejected that.

00:33:50.000 And some places are going backwards, like Canada, like our neighbor to the north, Canada, the UK, all over Europe, they're going backwards.

00:34:00.000 They're not going to keep offering it culturally.

00:34:02.000 That's fine, but the point that I'm making is we can't make people want something.

00:34:06.000 No, and you're woke.

00:34:08.000 And what it sounds like Gina is saying is we should do what we can to export these ideas, but we've already done that.

00:34:14.000 No, but we can't help ourselves.

00:34:16.000 That's fine.

00:34:17.000 We're going to keep growing, we're going to keep getting bigger, we're going to keep creating, you know, I think we're moving in a better direction as regards our art forms.

00:34:26.000 You know, I think we're getting films back a little bit.

00:34:28.000 I think these things are going to move back in the other direction.

00:34:30.000 They're going to be a little less woke.

00:34:33.000 I think that's what's happening.

00:34:35.000 I have faith that that's what's happening.

00:34:36.000 And I don't think that those things are going to stay within the boundaries of the United States.

00:34:39.000 I think it's a terrible idea to go out there with our troops and go around and be like, here's, you know, here's abortions for Africa.

00:34:48.000 We're USAID.

00:34:49.000 This is amazing.

00:34:50.000 And you also had problems with the US Institutes for Peace telling the Taliban to stop eradicating opium production, right?

00:34:57.000 Because they said that was bad globally.

00:34:59.000 So we have to get our shit together.

00:35:01.000 Excuse me.

00:35:01.000 We have to get ourselves together.

00:35:03.000 But I do think that what we have to offer the world is still paramount to anything else that the world has out there on its own.

00:35:10.000 Okay, if I could pull the let's pull the camera back out and look at the screen.

00:35:12.000 Do you not think so?

00:35:13.000 Do you not think so?

00:35:14.000 I don't think I disagree with you.

00:35:16.000 But I kind of want to maybe take a middle groundund here, right?

00:35:19.000 Okay, so what we're talking about is, in some ways, the difference between the developed and the undeveloped or developing world, right?

00:35:26.000 So in the developed world, think like China, Russia, Europe, the United States, more or less, right?

00:35:34.000 So in Europe and the United States, everything you're talking about here, Libby, really is the heritage of Western civilization.

00:35:41.000 I'm a big supporter of Western civilization.

00:35:43.000 Amen.

00:35:43.000 And so when you were bringing up, you know, like our fight with the Soviet Union, it made me think of Voice of America.

00:35:49.000 Like Voice of America was originally like a positive American propaganda thing that we were trying to blast in behind the Iron Curtaintain.

00:35:57.000 And so as if you look at, you know, if you look at Africa, India, South America, it's not so much that those countries, they have varying degrees of like, I guess, there's some authoritarian, but there's a lot of freedom of speech.

00:36:10.000 I mean, Sam Altman was just on a podcast saying that their biggest user, their second biggest user block for chat for, you know, AI is in India.

00:36:20.000 So India actually does have a decent amount of freedom of speech.

00:36:22.000 South America has a decent amount of freedom of speech.

00:36:24.000 Africa is a real mix depending on what you're looking at there.

00:36:28.000 Where we're losing freedom of speech is fundamentally in former nations that embraced it because of this virus of wokeness.

00:36:38.000 Did you see the thing aggressive?

00:36:40.000 The way the guy got arrested for saying we love bacon outside of the site of a future mosque.

00:36:44.000 There's not even a mosque there.

00:36:45.000 Yeah.

00:36:46.000 That's crazy.

00:36:46.000 Right.

00:36:46.000 And so it's like, what?

00:36:48.000 We're committing suicide.

00:36:49.000 We're not loving bacon.

00:36:52.000 We put up a video last night of people of the English flying the English flag and they're wearing masks in order to fly the flag of England in England.

00:37:03.000 Right.

00:37:03.000 Like they're actually Yeah, they're actually putting a scanner in your eyes.

00:37:06.000 You're looking at a pothole.

00:37:08.000 And they're painting the English flag in potholes.

00:37:11.000 So that way the potholes get fixed because the magistrates will say that's the English flag that might offend people when they're in.

00:37:17.000 We have the Pakistani flags, the Hamas flags, all these flags get to be.

00:37:21.000 So Libby, if I were to disagree with you on anything, I would just say it's almost a little bit too idealistic right now because what has happened is what we have actually exported around the globe for the last twenty plus years has been a global woke censorship.

00:37:36.000 Yes, Joe, I agree with you.

00:37:37.000 And so it's like, we exported that like crazy into the UK and Germany and all these ridiculous places that now have, like, trans Nazi prisoners in women's jails.

00:37:49.000 Like, it's out of control.

00:37:50.000 So I think to get to what you want really kind of is we need to work on our.

00:37:55.000 America needs some me time.

00:37:56.000 We need to work on ourselves.

00:37:58.000 But I don't think that we should ever like the fact that we have not met our ideals and met our expectations for American greatness is not a reason to discard them and it's not a reason to keep trying.

00:38:13.000 I think I am hopeful and maybe I'm wrong.

00:38:16.000 Maybe I'm just a goofy optimist about this.

00:38:19.000 But I am hopeful that the past 25 years or so since kind of 911 when we've really lost our way and started blaming ourselves for being attacked, I think that I am hopeful that the last 25 years are an aberration and that we get our patriotic spirit back.

00:38:36.000 This is one of the only countries in the world where you go to it and like, you wander down the street and everybody's got flags out, you know?

00:38:44.000 I mean, even in Brooklyn, when I lived in Brooklyn, like, there were streets where everyone had flags out.

00:38:49.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:50.000 Like, that's not common everywhere else in the world.

00:38:52.000 We love this country so much.

00:38:54.000 And I I guess I'm really hopeful that this new administration has given me some hope, right?

00:38:59.000 I mean, we're getting a gift shop in the White House.

00:39:02.000 That's so great.

00:39:03.000 You know what I mean?

00:39:03.000 Like, I know that sounds silly, but that's such a glorious capitalist democratic thing that we're doing, a gift shop in the White House.

00:39:09.000 We should, how did we not have that?

00:39:11.000 Sometimes you, when we're in it, you're in it, you can't see it.

00:39:13.000 This is, this is, I feel like we're getting there.

00:39:15.000 I feel like we're getting to accomplish it.

00:39:18.000 It's happened in this country.

00:39:19.000 This is one of the top political shows on the planet.

00:39:21.000 This show we're on right now.

00:39:22.000 And Joe Rogan, like, that didn't exist, couldn't have existed twenty years ago.

00:39:26.000 We, we, we were bombarded with the global culture after the internet appeared.

00:39:31.000 And then we suffered for twenty years in almost like American dazed idealism, like not really like what the guys in the 1850s laying down steel did.

00:39:41.000 We were just now on our computers just accepting.

00:39:43.000 Right.

00:39:43.000 They didn't.

00:39:44.000 We're not doing that anymore.

00:39:45.000 I see what you're saying.

00:39:46.000 And you're making a lot of sense.

00:39:48.000 And I know that you agree with me.

00:39:49.000 Yeah, it's funny.

00:39:50.000 I don't really think that I'm arguing with you.

00:39:52.000 I guess I'm just so I actually think that okay because you just think we need a little isolation.

00:39:56.000 Well, no, no, no.

00:39:57.000 We're ratcheting up.

00:39:58.000 I mean, I think things really hang in the balance.

00:40:00.000 And again, I fundamentally believe that the path to the renewal of the West, of Europe, of America is, you know, sort of a return to the founding faith of these I totally agree.

00:40:11.000 These great civilizations, the Christianity, we need revival, repentance, renewal.

00:40:16.000 But I actually think that if it's Gavin Newsom in 2028, he's the worst.

00:40:22.000 This show could be shut down.

00:40:24.000 He is so tired.

00:40:25.000 I mean, I think we realize that, right?

00:40:26.000 But it's like I told people, you know, so as a Christian, I believe in the sovereignty of God and of all things.

00:40:33.000 But I was concerned as we were heading into the 2024 election because of, you know, I'm not near the level of the people on this show, but just because of my outspoken, you know, political activism that if Kamala Harris won, you know, maybe one day in the near future I would get a knock on my door, maybe not a knock, maybe a no knock raid.

00:40:52.000 Like that was a legitimate fear, I think that I had.

00:40:55.000 And so, so Trump's won again.

00:40:57.000 And I think right now what I'm trying to say is we're in this situation, the American political experiment where for a while yet still it's sort of the stakes could not be higher as we ratchet back and forth essentially to get to everything.

00:41:09.000 you want and you want and I want, we need to rush the left for the next twenty years.

00:41:15.000 In a way that they that is not perceived because the, basically, I think when you say the left, I think of communism.

00:41:21.000 I think of the CCP as like the ultimate form of the left on Earth right now.

00:41:26.000 So you want to, you want to, it'll come back to me.

00:41:33.000 Okay, well, we're going to jump to this story because we want to crush gay race communism.

00:41:38.000 There you go.

00:41:41.000 Fully automated gay race communism.

00:41:44.000 Okay, we're going to jump to this story from the post millennialal, Ghislaine Maxwell said Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

00:41:51.000 She and along with literally everybody else on the planet has said that.

00:41:54.000 Now, how true it is, I don't know.

00:41:55.000 But anyways, from the post millennial, in the release transcripts from the Department of Justice interview with Ghislaine Maxwell, whoa, said that she did not believe that her former friend, associate and lover died by suicide.

00:42:09.000 The revelation was made during her Tallahassee prison interview with assistant AG Todd Blanche.

00:42:16.000 So you're going to tell us, Blanche said, what you believe, but just to I want to make sure I understand your basis for belief is kind of what you've read and seen and your knowledge of mister Epstein for the many years you knew him, right?

00:42:28.000 And actually, there's a third component, Maxwell said.

00:42:31.000 She went on to detail having experienced now the mismanagement and inefficiencies and total dereliction of duty at the Bureau of Prison prisons.

00:42:39.000 Okay, fair, okay.

00:42:40.000 So you know, I want to, what I do want to do is be careful about is, you know, asking you to speculate because anybody can do that, and I don't think it's fair to you or anybody else to ask you to give us your kind of opinion, Blanche said.

00:42:55.000 But do you think that the third point you say, which is kind of a failure by the BOP, there's been a lot of there's an SDNY report, there's SDNY investigation about that.

00:43:05.000 Do you so you think he was he didn't die by suicide given all the things we just talked about that that's like what it's put out I don't believe he died by suicide.

00:43:14.000 No.

00:43:14.000 Yeah, go and this is this was actually written by Libby.

00:43:17.000 So why don't you why don't you take it, Libby?

00:43:18.000 No, I wrote it.

00:43:19.000 It doesn't have to be Oh no, I'm sorry.

00:43:20.000 That's the tweet.

00:43:21.000 My bad.

00:43:21.000 My apologies.

00:43:22.000 I did write it.

00:43:23.000 Okay, well then go ahead.

00:43:24.000 Just out of your silly.

00:43:25.000 Oxed yourself live.

00:43:26.000 So, so go ahead and outline what the what you know, what what do you think that she's she's being folsom?

00:43:32.000 Do you think that she's actually telling the truth?

00:43:34.000 Or do you think that this is just her trying to get in the good graces of Donald Trump because she wants a pardon?

00:43:39.000 Well, she said that she didn't think think he killed himself, in part because it cost $25 in commissary to stage a hit on someone in prison.

00:43:47.000 Oh, okay.

00:43:48.000 If you read all the way down.

00:43:49.000 Which is what she said, which I think that's a problem if that's what we have going on in prison.

00:43:55.000 $25 in commissary, not even like gold or something, but like, that's cheap.

00:44:00.000 That's cheap for a hit.

00:44:01.000 That is true.

00:44:02.000 I think a lot of people don't think that Epstein killed himself.

00:44:06.000 And I think it's kind of interesting that now we have Cash Patel saying that Epstein definitely killed himself.

00:44:12.000 You have Gillen Maxwell saying she doesn't think that he did.

00:44:16.000 You have a lot of people who still think that he didn't.

00:44:20.000 And I think this is a situation where we're never going to really know anything ever.

00:44:27.000 She also said in this interview that she never saw Trump do anything untoward, that he was always a gentleman, that he didn't do anything inappropriate with masseuses or anybody else.

00:44:39.000 And I do believe that that's true.

00:44:42.000 And I do believe that she believes that he didn't kill himself.

00:44:46.000 She ran a criminal sex trafficking ring for young women.

00:44:49.000 Why would you believe anything?

00:44:51.000 I don't necessarily I believe I would believe that Trump didn't do anything wrong, whether she said it or not.

00:44:58.000 Oh, you just argue.

00:45:00.000 I don't think he did anything wrong.

00:45:01.000 Oh my gosh.

00:45:01.000 I've seen pictures of him at parties with his arms around ladies with Epstein.

00:45:05.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't think that he I don't think that he got with underage girls.

00:45:09.000 You grabbed them by the P. I don't think he got with underage girls.

00:45:12.000 I don't think that.

00:45:13.000 Do I think he was an international playboy doing whatever he wanted?

00:45:15.000 Yeah, but I don't think that he, you know, I don't think that he put his hands on a 17-year-old's boob.

00:45:22.000 I don't think that he, you know, had sex with underage girls.

00:45:25.000 I don't think that.

00:45:26.000 I don't think it, but I don't think he didn't.

00:45:28.000 I just don't think that he did.

00:45:30.000 Well, you know, to your point, look, I when all this story was breaking and with recently in the news, I was thankful that I'm not one of those people who has who has staked my career or my credibility on the Epstein.

00:45:43.000 I'm having a position I've I've hardly ever commented on it.

00:45:46.000 I obviously it's it's a massive issue.

00:45:48.000 I think though that it concerns me and I'm not saying I'm not saying you're wrong.

00:45:51.000 I'm not arguing with you, but I like that we'll never know the truth.

00:45:54.000 Yeah, I would like to know like I would like to think we can know the truth on this either way in one way, shape or form.

00:46:02.000 But I don't I don't know like I mean what like they won't release the the the the um, courts won't allow the release of any of the grand jury testimony.

00:46:10.000 Yeah, that was you have they've repeatedly refused to do that and this is from super lefty courts in in new york state that won't release it you have the maxwell testimony like everything that the doj has had in their possession to release other than like you know child porn they have they have released a lot of stuff how come they didn't release the testimony the court refused to release the testimony well did you hear how the reasoning

00:46:40.000 was i don't know yeah yeah i mean the but the doj has asked the courts repeatedly release the grand jury testimony and the courts have said no we don't see a reason to do that yeah i do i do wonder what maxwell's play here is too like.

00:46:54.000 Like, I certainly wouldn't.

00:46:55.000 I wouldn't necessarily trust her.

00:46:57.000 I realize, look, I mean, I'm a big fan of Donald Trump.

00:47:00.000 I I I understand that that statement here, like, looks good for Trump, right?

00:47:05.000 But I, like, I fundamentally wouldn't trust her.

00:47:08.000 And I mean, this, the underlying issue of this is such a wretched, like, moral issue, like, I do want to see, I want to see people held accountable for what happened to these girls, to, you know, and who's behind it.

00:47:20.000 I think we need to know.

00:47:21.000 I mean, I don't know if that requires leaking classified information.

00:47:25.000 I don't know.

00:47:25.000 But I, you know, I think, and I think they, I will say this, as I've watched all this unfold, if we can't get to the truth on this, like it just really just continues to undermine, you know, the credibility and public trust in the American judicial system.

00:47:40.000 That's really what's going on.

00:47:42.000 There's concerns about it, concerns about it for sure.

00:47:47.000 But I do think that the Trump administration is trying to do, I think they're trying to release everything that they're able to release.

00:47:56.000 The Trump administration sent someone to talk to Maxwell and then she came out with this statement.

00:48:01.000 Trump never did anything on toward and then she got moved to a minimum security prison.

00:48:04.000 It just seems like a favor.

00:48:05.000 It does.

00:48:06.000 She did get moved, but she hasn't got a pardon.

00:48:08.000 It just seems like a political favor.

00:48:09.000 Like she said, Trump, but then she said he didn't kill himself, which is flying in the face of Cash Patel.

00:48:15.000 So like they're like, you can say that part, but then say something nice about Trump and we'll move you to minus.

00:48:20.000 I think what she said is I think that what she was saying is an inference though, right?

00:48:24.000 She's inferring that he didn't.

00:48:25.000 She doesn't have any actual.

00:48:27.000 She said she believes that he didn't.

00:48:29.000 So she's saying because of what I know of him and what I've seen in the prison here, that I know that you can get someone killed for twenty five dollars worth of commissary stuff that I think because of all those things.

00:48:42.000 I think that he didn't kill himself.

00:48:43.000 So this isn't like she has some kind of statement of belief.

00:48:46.000 Yeah, it wasn't a statement of it's not like she has some kind of inf information that people, you know, that, that, that, that, evidence area assumption.

00:48:52.000 Yeah, it's not like there's some kind of information that the general public doesn't have.

00:48:56.000 This is just her saying, I know Jeffrey.

00:48:58.000 Jeffrey was state of mind at the time.

00:49:00.000 You know, I knew him.

00:49:02.000 And because I know what the, how much of a mess the, the correctional institutions are, this makes me believe that he did not kill himself.

00:49:10.000 But it's not actually like some kind of concrete statement that you could say, well, look, there, that's proof.

00:49:15.000 It's not proof.

00:49:16.000 It's just her inference, you know.

00:49:18.000 So even still, I don't think that, you know, whatever, I think whatever people have as a preconception..

00:49:27.000 That's what they're going to fall back on with this, right?

00:49:29.000 They're going to say, okay, well, so she's saying that Donald Trump didn't do anything.

00:49:34.000 I hate Donald Trump.

00:49:35.000 So the reason she's saying Donald Trump didn't do anything is because Donald Trump, she wants a pardon from Donald Trump.

00:49:41.000 So that makes me believe even more strongly that Donald Trump did something bad.

00:49:45.000 And if you think that Donald Trump didn't do anything, you're going to say, well, she's a liar.

00:49:50.000 So I don't think Donald Trump did anything.

00:49:52.000 Like Libby said, I don't think Donald Trump did anything anyways.

00:49:54.000 I didn't think anything that he didn't think in the first place.

00:49:56.000 She's a liar.

00:49:57.000 So, you know, I don't think that, you know, I don't think that Donald Trump did anything.

00:50:01.000 I don't think that any of the information that she's giving out is actually of any value beyond what just information coming out, like I don't think that's going to change any minds.

00:50:13.000 No one's going to hear this and say, okay, that for me, that's the piece of information that makes me change my mind.

00:50:20.000 I don't think this changes zero minds.

00:50:23.000 I think that's true.

00:50:24.000 Except what makes what has changed is that I thought she was going to be imprisoned for life and treated poorly.

00:50:29.000 It was twenty years, she got twenty years.

00:50:31.000 twenty years and treated poorly for running the sex trafficking operation, but they just moved her to minimum security and she said something nice about Donald Trump.

00:50:37.000 So like if she had said, oh yeah, he had his hands all over under his women, she would never get a pardon.

00:50:41.000 Now she might because she...

00:50:43.000 I don't think she's going to get a pardon.

00:50:44.000 Do we...

00:50:46.000 Maybe at the end of...

00:50:47.000 Does she not have her client list?

00:50:48.000 At the door when he's running out.

00:50:50.000 Maybe with the auto pen at the last minute.

00:50:52.000 She ran that operation.

00:50:54.000 Epstein was one of her boys.

00:50:55.000 Right.

00:50:56.000 But when you say ran that operation, do you think that the operation means that she was bringing young girls for all the people that were going to Epstein Island or do you think that it was just for Epstein?

00:51:06.000 I don't know, but she was the one at the center.

00:51:08.000 This is according to people that were around them.

00:51:11.000 the setteals that that Maria Farmer I think would talk like Guy Lane was was at the middle in this bubble and everyone was kind of revolving around Guilane and this was like her brothel or whatever.

00:51:21.000 Okay.

00:51:23.000 Well I mean there's other people that.

00:51:24.000 she's actually cleared as or said that didn't do anything.

00:51:27.000 She said that Clinton hadn't gone to the island, I believe, is what she said correct?

00:51:32.000 Yeah, I think that's right.

00:51:33.000 Yeah, so I mean, there's other people that she's, you know, said things about.

00:51:40.000 And, and, and again, it it flies in the face of what people kind of already thought because everyone kind of already thought that Bill Clinton was a dirty old man and had done dirty old man things on Epstein Island.

00:51:51.000 And that's why there's a picture of him in a dress on Epstein Island.

00:51:55.000 And that blue dress, the blue dress that's at Epstein Island.

00:51:58.000 You were saying that you wonder if we'll ever get to the bottom of it.

00:52:02.000 And I sort of, I don't, I don't, I don't want to.

00:52:05.000 It's like, I don't want to go poke the bear.

00:52:09.000 Yeah.

00:52:10.000 I mean, I think, well, like, I mean, when you get on to this subject, we can talk about Trump, we can talk about Clinton, we can talk about, you know, Epstein himself.

00:52:18.000 But I mean, really, like, just sort of what weighs heavy on me is like the actual people who were victimized and trafficked, right?

00:52:26.000 And then what this sort of speaks to is like, can we, is there a two tier justice system, not just in our country, but in our world globally?

00:52:32.000 I mean, there are other parties and agencies involved with this.

00:52:36.000 So it's like, do the rich and famous and politically powerful get to abuse anybody they want to with no justice or not.

00:52:46.000 And so yeah, I mean, that's why I want to get I kind of always have this instinct, this desire for justice to get to the bottom of something, you know, because either there's justice for everyone or there's justice for no one.

00:52:59.000 Well, I mean, look, I don't think that's true.

00:53:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:53:03.000 That there's justice for everyone or there's justice for no one.

00:53:05.000 I think that there's a lot of places in the world where there's justice for no one at all.

00:53:10.000 And I think there's a lot of places in the world where there's justice for some.

00:53:13.000 You know, I mean, there are varying degrees of what people get served justice like this woman who was just released., she was the wife of a Tory counselor in the UK, and she had said something untoward about migrants after the Southport stabbings, and she was in prison.

00:53:29.000 She was in prison for like, what, like a year or something?

00:53:32.000 A year and a week, I think, something like that.

00:53:35.000 That doesn't seem just at all, you know.

00:53:38.000 And then even insisting, like, there's definitely I think what I was trying to say is like, sort of the idea that like, everyone counts or like, nobody counts.

00:53:45.000 Well, I mean, there's nothing like the idea that the rich and powerful get away with all kinds of things, that's, I mean, that's as old as human society.

00:53:56.000 Yeah.

00:53:56.000 Yeah, King, wasn't it King Judas?

00:53:57.000 Yeah, it's not good though.

00:54:00.000 He made his own church.

00:54:00.000 Henry VIII.

00:54:01.000 Yeah.

00:54:02.000 Yeah.

00:54:02.000 What was it?

00:54:03.000 He cut off two of his heads, two wives' heads or something.

00:54:05.000 There's the genetic argument, and it's kind of hard to have, but a poor, a malnourished human that gives birth to malnourished children over generations produces, arguably, stupidity or, or like can lead to producing stupidity in the brain.

00:54:17.000 Like, And those people can't run, they have a hard time running corporations and and endeavors.

00:54:23.000 And so they're relegated to the slave class or the plebs, these people that eat bread.

00:54:27.000 And that's what they don't have nutrition.

00:54:28.000 And then this other class of people has been feasting on all the nutrients and education, and they know how to run things.

00:54:34.000 And so they've elevated themselves to this other class.

00:54:36.000 And that's how it has been since the Roman Empire at the very least, and kings and subjects and even the people at the top will, like Stalin, he'll kill off his other people at the top eventually, like the justice fails, you know.

00:54:49.000 To your point, William, I agree, like it's not a good thing.

00:54:52.000 I'm just saying that it's about as normal as any other human traits or any other phenomenon that happens with human beings.

00:55:00.000 And again, yes, and to be honest with you, the United States for a long time, I think that the United States probably had the best record about that.

00:55:07.000 There was a long time where you, you, I think you could actually get a certain amount of justice for people, even powerful people that had broken the law.

00:55:15.000 But I think that's, that's broken down now.

00:55:18.000 I think that the politically connected are largely insulated from justice.

00:55:24.000 But at the same time, I say that, but Epstein did die in prison and there were very few people that were as connected as Epstein was.

00:55:33.000 So, yes, I do think that it's very, it's common for wealthy people to get away with whatever they're doing.

00:55:40.000 And I think that's largely because they have the resources to hire the best lawyers and stuff like that.

00:55:44.000 But it's not all the time because, again, Epstein was in prison when he died.

00:55:47.000 So, yeah, but why was that if Epstein was killed in prison?

00:55:52.000 I mean, sure, you could take that as a measureure of justice, but if that if that is what happened, who was being protected?

00:56:00.000 Yeah.

00:56:00.000 Having Epstein killed.

00:56:02.000 So I don't know, but what but the point that I'm making is again, Epstein had, you know, ample resources and he still ended up in prison.

00:56:10.000 You know, so it's like there is some amount of our system does, you know, does put wealthy people in prison and Epstein was probably going to be in prison for the rest of his life.

00:56:20.000 Gillene going in jail for twenty years.

00:56:22.000 Like she is she may not be there the rest of her life, but she's going to be super old when she gets out, um, barring some kind of pardon.

00:56:29.000 And so the only point that I'm making is, is it, yes, I agree., it's a bad thing.

00:56:34.000 And I still think that the United States and our system of justice is better than most in the world, and Prop might even be better than anywhere else in the world.

00:56:42.000 It seems like when our political elite started getting this untouchability factor, it was around when the liberal economic order started after World War two, like because of the heavy British influence.

00:56:52.000 Like the kings, you can't put them in jail because they own everything and they make all the law.

00:56:58.000 Their word is the law.

00:56:59.000 And we're stuck with it.

00:57:01.000 So would you say that Epstein was not politically well connected?

00:57:04.000 He was, but he was an expiators.

00:57:05.000 I think he was an expiators and put down to blame everything on him and shut it up.

00:57:10.000 So you're so you think that there were other people that were involved in the illegal going on on his island?

00:57:17.000 Yeah, Les Wexner was friends with his Victoria's Secret people apparently would come and go and that young models, young models, Ghislaine Maxwell now being moved to minimum security, really?

00:57:29.000 I mean, not that she's a threat, but like if she's at the top of a global child sex trafficking ring, you wouldn't think she'd be put in a minimum security prison a year after she got arrested.

00:57:38.000 It's kind of I think Epstein got all the blame.

00:57:40.000 They wanted him to take all the blame.

00:57:42.000 Not that he's getting all the blame, but they want him.

00:57:44.000 They put him down and everyone loves calling it the Epstein files, but like, I mean, Guilane's dad, I don't even want to talk.

00:57:51.000 This is such a dangerous conversation to have.

00:57:53.000 But why is it dangerous?

00:57:54.000 It's very dangerous.

00:57:55.000 It's because I don't, because a million people are listening and I don't, I don't want to say something that's not true and put wrong things in people's minds.

00:58:01.000 Well, people will be seeing this for years after we say things that are wrong all the time.

00:58:05.000 So, I don't want to just rely on the fact that you're not, you're not saying that you say that, you know, just rely on the fact that it's opinion and and say, speak your mind.

00:58:14.000 It's see, I think that every once in a while, like Prince Andrew, it's hard not to, not to scapegoat.

00:58:18.000 I mean, they kind of like, I don't know what exactly where he is with the British Empire, but there are instances where people at power will get thrown under the bus or.

00:58:26.000 Or just like Weinstein.

00:58:29.000 They checked him under the bus.

00:58:30.000 Weinstein.

00:58:31.000 That was Zary Weinstein.

00:58:32.000 The movie mogul, Miramax.

00:58:34.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

00:58:35.000 They they hit him hard.

00:58:36.000 Yeah, he's still in jail.

00:58:37.000 And in family, royal families, you know, if a bro, I mean, to the point where a king will kill his brother so his brother doesn't usurp his kingdom, you know?

00:58:43.000 It's horrible.

00:58:44.000 I just think that interview was such an unforced error though.

00:58:46.000 Like, he didn't need to get that interview.

00:58:48.000 Which interview?

00:58:48.000 The interview that he I forgot who was that Candice viewed him.

00:58:51.000 Yeah, I think it was Candice, but that was such an unforced error.

00:58:53.000 Like, bro, did not need to do that.

00:58:54.000 And he totally threw it out of the bus.

00:58:57.000 We didn't think that was, you didn't Oh okay.

00:58:59.000 I think we're talking about the Weinstein interview.

00:59:01.000 No, no, no, no.

00:59:02.000 I think that's what they thought about Epstein too.

00:59:04.000 He didn't need to blow the lid off that thing.

00:59:06.000 And he was just careless.

00:59:07.000 And they're like, take him down.

00:59:08.000 Like take them down, put it, get them out of here.

00:59:11.000 Yeah, I don't know that I mean, I don't know that I have a strong opinion as to how many people that Epstein was smoozing with were actually involved in criminal activity.

00:59:23.000 It's possible that there were some.

00:59:25.000 I don't think that like everybody that was smoozing with Epstein was also involved in criminal activity.

00:59:32.000 I don't think that if there was a picture taken with you and Epstein, that means that you were involved in criminal activity.

00:59:40.000 Straight up, straight up, do not think that Stephen Hawking was diddling little girls like that dude.

00:59:46.000 The benefits.

00:59:47.000 He was like, he was beaten up by his wife.

00:59:49.000 Yeah.

00:59:49.000 Well, he was.

00:59:50.000 Oh, in the chair, really.

00:59:52.000 Poor guy.

00:59:52.000 Um, but yeah.

00:59:53.000 So I do think that there were people that, that were, you know, that were associates of Epstein or took that took pictures with Epstein that were not involved in criminal activity.

01:00:02.000 And sure, there are probably people that were, um, but I don't know to the extent as well, you know.

01:00:07.000 It's all those people that got stuck in it and that all of a sudden the 17-year-old is touching them inappropriately and then that could be considered illegal.

01:00:14.000 And they're like, they don't even know she's 17.

01:00:16.000 Yeah.

01:00:17.000 Those guys aren't criminals.

01:00:18.000 Yeah.

01:00:18.000 That's the idea between being a honeypot operation for, you know, for intelligence operations that get someone on someone like that.

01:00:23.000 So the girl that doesn't look look like she's 17, but she is.

01:00:26.000 And then they can go, Oh, well, she was actually 15 years old and you had no idea.

01:00:29.000 It's like, Oh, what?

01:00:30.000 She told me she was 19.

01:00:31.000 That doesn't matter at that point because the news has already run around the world three times, you know?

01:00:34.000 So what's the argument for?

01:00:36.000 Two points.

01:00:37.000 One, Alex Jones is right.

01:00:39.000 Right.

01:00:40.000 There's like global, a lot of time.

01:00:41.000 Global, satanic pedophiles running a lot of stuff at the highest levels of international governments around the world.

01:00:51.000 And then the second thing I would say on this too, again, because this is not, this is not an issue that I've like staked a lot of interest in or commentary on other than watching it unfold.

01:01:00.000 But I do want to share a Bible verse because I think it's really applicable here.

01:01:03.000 This is Luke 8:17, for there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

01:01:11.000 I mean, that sounds like the apocalypse, like AI is going to take everyone's emails and everyone's videos and everyone's hard drives and they're going to make them all public at once.

01:01:18.000 You're going to offend the Christians.

01:01:19.000 I think that that's the great revelation of nothing.

01:01:22.000 There are no secrets.

01:01:23.000 I think that might be coming.

01:01:23.000 The AI is going to snap and make everyone's everything public.

01:01:27.000 Well, I think Luke's actually this is talking about judgment at the end of all time.

01:01:32.000 But I have a question.

01:01:33.000 I think we're both on the same page.

01:01:34.000 I have a question for you as a holy man.

01:01:36.000 The end of time.

01:01:37.000 Which aspect of this global cabal is satanic?

01:01:40.000 Ian's not.

01:01:40.000 Ian's not on the same page.

01:01:41.000 Well, I'm just turning the page.

01:01:43.000 I'm going to turn the page again.

01:01:45.000 Let's go to page three.

01:01:46.000 What's satanic about it?

01:01:48.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a good question.

01:01:49.000 I mean, satanic about what?

01:01:50.000 The global cabal, the global cabal.

01:01:52.000 The pedophile rings that we're talking about.

01:01:54.000 Like, what's satanic?

01:01:55.000 Because I hear that term, satanic come up in regards.

01:01:59.000 Hey, Phil, why is that funny?

01:02:00.000 Ian's Ian's my favorite person.

01:02:03.000 She's hilarious.

01:02:04.000 No, no, no.

01:02:05.000 Have you seen the WEF like their, like their crazy, like I guess you call them rituals like with Klaus Schwab?

01:02:10.000 Have you seen all the stuff that they've done this stuff?

01:02:12.000 Like they almost do it.

01:02:12.000 They don't have to do that stuff.

01:02:14.000 They do it almost as for, you know, some unknown reason.

01:02:17.000 And that's why it looks it looks fun it looks pretty Zydanic.

01:02:19.000 It looks like some, what's that one movie with like with Brad Pitt or what not Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, where they had that weird party in New York.

01:02:25.000 I can't remember that in any other movie.

01:02:28.000 It's escaped me now.

01:02:29.000 But it's not, it's Vanilla Scott with the masks.

01:02:31.000 With eyes wide shut.

01:02:32.000 Eyes wide shut.

01:02:33.000 Yeah, they do all that other weird stuff.

01:02:34.000 I've never seen it, but I know what you're referring to.

01:02:36.000 Yeah, yeah, they do all that weird stuff and they don't have to do that, but they do that for some reason.

01:02:38.000 And for me, like, and most people, I look at it and I'm like, well, that's kind of weird.

01:02:41.000 So it could be cultish, like ancient.

01:02:42.000 Yeah, let me try to answer a question here briefly, just like very briefly and from a theological perspective, right?

01:02:47.000 So in the book of Ephesians, the apostle Paul writes about how, you know, we wrestle not only with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers in the spiritual realm, dark powers, right?

01:03:00.000 And so as a Bible believing Christian, I believe fundamentally everyone, whether you recognize it or not, is either serving God or the devil, right?

01:03:10.000 So it's like they're, according to just basic orthodox Christian theology, like that's the divide.

01:03:16.000 Some people do it more intentionally than others, but I do absolutely believe that there are many powerful people in the world who are trying to and intentionally pursuing tapping into occult, demonic power to bolster the subversive and evil work that they're doing.

01:03:33.000 So is it when it's demonic, is that they're allowing the animal aspect of themselves to take over and run the show, as opposed to the divine inspiratory aspect of the human, the consciousness, the you know, you know, like if I had to fit it in, if I divine would not be animal, it would be evil.

01:03:48.000 Yeah, and we're using different categories.

01:03:50.000 The animal being the destructive, consumptory, kills to eat, it wants money to protect itself, it wants to be warm, so it will kill people to get warm.

01:04:00.000 Like it takes over without the animal, you're nothing.

01:04:03.000 So you have these two aspects.

01:04:05.000 So the terminology that I would use is actually really, and it's interesting in our, before we got on camera, you were talking about pride, right?

01:04:14.000 So Satan is, you know, many people say sort of like the, you know, the first sin was the sin of pride, Satan wanting to become God.

01:04:22.000 So I wouldn't use the phrase animal so much as it says, we are creators.

01:04:27.000 God made us to worship and love and serve him.

01:04:30.000 We've rejected that.

01:04:31.000 Instead, we're trying to dethrone God, make ourselves God.

01:04:35.000 That's, you know, Satan's rejection of his place in God's created order as a created being worshipping and serving him.

01:04:43.000 So that it's really the pursuit of deity in rebellion against God.

01:04:47.000 Do you think that AI is like a manifestation of humans attempting to become God?

01:04:55.000 I'm not going to weigh on that.

01:04:56.000 I'm not one hundred percent sure.

01:04:57.000 AI feels inevitable, which is why I wonder if if the humans are attempting to usurp the power of God, whatever that means, the ability to create atomic printing, take two, take hydrogen and make oil, make food, make water, make whatever you need, because you can fuse it all together really fast.

01:05:12.000 Okay, well, I know we're way off topic here, but Ian's running me down a so let me answer the AI question here real quick.

01:05:18.000 I believe that man, you know, man, God has gifted man with incredible faculties and abilities.

01:05:24.000 So the ability to produce something like AI as a tool, I can see very much as just an exercise of the dominion mandate.

01:05:32.000 It's and so no, I don't actually think AI can ever be a god.

01:05:36.000 Maybe some people in Silicon Valley, I know some people in Silicon Valley view it as an effort to create a god.

01:05:42.000 I think that would be a poor way of trying to pursue the use of AI, but it doesn't have to be that.

01:05:47.000 Okay.

01:05:47.000 All right, guys, we're going to we're going to jump to this next story here and we have a little bit of news on it as well as not just what was post today.

01:05:53.000 Kilmar Obrega Garcia is released from federal custody in Tennessee from NBC News.

01:06:00.000 Kilmar Obrega Garcia was released from federal custody Friday months after he was wrongfully deported to an El Salvador prison.

01:06:08.000 Where are you reading wrongfully deported?

01:06:10.000 NBC News.

01:06:10.000 Oh, that's they say right there wrongfully.

01:06:13.000 That's NBC failure.

01:06:14.000 Yeah, wrongfully.

01:06:16.000 It was not wrong.

01:06:17.000 They actually did the right thing.

01:06:19.000 He was wrongfully deported to an El Salvador prison and accused of being a gang member he was.

01:06:24.000 US magistrate judge Barbara Holmes in the Middle District of Tennessee ordered Abrego Garcia's release from a jail near Nashville, Tennessee, where he had been held since he was freed from El Salvador's Seacot prison in June.

01:06:36.000 Abrego Garcia is en route to his family in Maryland, Sean Hecker, one of his attorneys said.

01:06:42.000 Abrego Garcia was unlawfully arrested and deported, which is wrong because he's here illegally.

01:06:47.000 So yeah.

01:06:48.000 Yeah, and he was, yeah.

01:06:49.000 And he was caught trafficking people as well.

01:06:52.000 Trafficking human beings.

01:06:53.000 Yeah, this is, this is, this is absolutely, it is the opposite of informing people.

01:07:00.000 It is absolutely just lying to people.

01:07:02.000 Abrego Garcia was unlawfully arrested and deported and then imprisoned all because of the government's vindictive attack on a man who had the courage to fight back against the administration's continuing assault on the rule of law, Hecker said in a statement.

01:07:15.000 Now, I mean, granted, this is his lawyer that's saying that, but still the fact that they ran with that quote and they do no pushback, right?

01:07:23.000 No, they think that it was one hundred percent wrong to.

01:07:27.000 report this guy.

01:07:28.000 He now has 48 hours to reach his brother's house in suburban Maryland, where the judge said he's allowed to live under a series of conditions.

01:07:34.000 He'll also have to check in with immigration officials at Ice Baltimore's field office.

01:07:39.000 Abrego Garcia's attorney had requested the 30-day pause that prevented their client from walking free last month out of fear that he might be detained by federal immigration and customs enforcement officers upon his release.

01:07:50.000 That ruling followed two others that aimed to protect Abrego Garcia.

01:07:53.000 This is insane.

01:07:54.000 In July, the US District Judge Waverly Crenshaw in Nashville sought to release Abrego Garcia.

01:07:59.000 At the time, Crenshaw denied a government motion to block his release, writing that the Trump administration had failed to provide evidence that Abrego Garcia must remain detained or that he is a flight risk.

01:08:10.000 That's crazy.

01:08:11.000 And the other thing that's crazy about that too is that this Maryland man, Arbrego Garcia, he had a detainer.

01:08:18.000 He had an immigration detainer.

01:08:20.000 He was supposed to be deported.

01:08:21.000 It's just that the judge in the case said that he should not be deported to El Salvador given the conditions in El Salvador at the time.

01:08:28.000 But since that time and since he was prior to when he was deported to El Salvador this year, conditions in El Salvador were substantially different.

01:08:36.000 Most of the gangs that he had feared had already been imprisoned by Bukele, right?

01:08:42.000 So the conditions that prevented his release to El Salvador.

01:08:46.000 were no longer in effect.

01:08:48.000 It had been totally different.

01:08:50.000 But now what's happened, and this is a development since, um, yeah, you have the build Malugan up, and we actually got a statement at the Postmillennial from Kristi Noam about this, but, uh, can I read it?

01:09:00.000 Do you have a statement from the Postmillennial, please.

01:09:03.000 Oh, I can do that too.

01:09:04.000 Can I do this one first?

01:09:05.000 Sure, go ahead.

01:09:06.000 Okay.

01:09:07.000 So, uh, ICE issued a statement saying, um, pursuant, oh, this was leaked, I think, pursuant to the court order issued in the District Court of Maryland on july 23, um, please let this email service notice that DHS may remove your client, Kilmar Amando Arbrego Garcia, to Uganda no earlier than 72 hours from now because Uganda just agreed to take deported illegal immigrants that are not permitted to go back to their home country.

01:09:35.000 So did they confirm that that's not a fake?

01:09:37.000 Yeah, this is not fake.

01:09:38.000 Okay.

01:09:39.000 And then to Postmillennial, Kristi Noam said, activist liberal judges have attempted to obstruct our law enforcement every step of the way in removing the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens from our country.

01:09:51.000 Today we reached a new low with this publicity hungry Maryland judge mandating this illegal alien who is an MS thirteen gang member, human trafficker, serial domestic abuser, and child predator be allowed free.

01:10:02.000 What kind of?

01:10:02.000 What a, what costume do you think she was wearing when she was writing the statement?

01:10:05.000 Do you I think she must have had cowboy boots.

01:10:08.000 This is probably I don't know if she's writing it's business Barbie.

01:10:10.000 Yeah, there he goes.

01:10:12.000 She's wearing she's writing this is definitely wearing a suit and a tie.

01:10:15.000 She's wearing her outfit though.

01:10:16.000 She's wearing a T-shirt.

01:10:17.000 Oh yeah.

01:10:17.000 Suit and tie.

01:10:18.000 Yeah.

01:10:18.000 Pantaloons.

01:10:18.000 Yeah.

01:10:19.000 She actually she might have actually just been wearing like a male suit that's fit for her.

01:10:23.000 I don't think she, no, I don't think she has that.

01:10:25.000 I think she's big on the jeans with the blazer.

01:10:28.000 Okay.

01:10:28.000 The T-shirt, like you said, the MAGA hat and the cowboy boot.

01:10:32.000 That, yeah.

01:10:33.000 Yeah, I think I absolutely love Kristy Noeman, her cosplay.

01:10:36.000 She is, she's taking It's her look.

01:10:38.000 She's taking official cosplay to new levels every time I see her.

01:10:42.000 We're going to do that South Park thing where they had her face just melt.

01:10:45.000 Beautiful.

01:10:45.000 It was awesome.

01:10:46.000 Yeah.

01:10:46.000 I don't think she liked that very much.

01:10:48.000 Oh, I mean, look, her AVI on X for a while was Kristin Noam with the laser eyes.

01:10:56.000 So, you know, she had to have at least a little bit of sense of humor.

01:10:58.000 Yeah.

01:10:59.000 Yeah.

01:10:59.000 This case has been wild, right?

01:11:01.000 Because, I mean, the Democrats caught on to this guy.

01:11:04.000 Like, he was like the reincarnation of Rosa Parks.

01:11:07.000 Yeah.

01:11:08.000 Like, he's some sort of civil rights icon and hero when he's, you know, remember when Trump ran like in 2016?

01:11:16.000 So this is like in 2015 or something and Trump says all these illegal immigrants, they're like criminals and they're rapists and everyone lost their minds, like, oh, he's so racist.

01:11:25.000 And it's just like over and over again, you scratch some illegal immigrant in this country and you find some MS thirteen gang banger like abusing pedophile.

01:11:37.000 There, there, I want to narrow down on a point with that for us in a second.

01:11:41.000 But Libby, you were going to read the post millennial statement you said?

01:11:43.000 Oh, I did.

01:11:44.000 Okay.

01:11:44.000 I did.

01:11:45.000 So is it?

01:11:46.000 So I mean, look, I can't help.

01:11:49.000 I'm not a I'm not a particularly spiritual guy.

01:11:52.000 I'm not particularly big on religion.

01:11:53.000 I'm I consider myself agnostic.

01:11:56.000 I can't help but listen to the Democrats and the things that they get behind and be like, you guys are literally trying to be comic book evil bad guys.

01:12:05.000 Like, they get behind everything that is against good things, everything that is against anything that produces positive results for a family.

01:12:16.000 They are just they get behind all of the criminals.

01:12:20.000 It literally is as if they are written by a comic book and like, how can we make a political party that is just the evil guys?

01:12:28.000 The guys that just like are like, it's evil.

01:12:31.000 I love it.

01:12:32.000 You know, it's like, it really is as if they are like just made in a in a Hollywood movie.

01:12:39.000 to be, this is what bad guys are.

01:12:41.000 Man, speaking of it, I think that's because they use Hollywood movie style media to manipulate them and brainwash them into these zombie horde mentalities, personally.

01:12:49.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I've said it like this before, right?

01:12:52.000 The Democrats hate God, they hate family, they hate marriage, they hate children, they hate our nation.

01:12:59.000 So figure out what it looks like to pursue a policy agenda that displays a hatred for all those things which are fundamentally a part of what we would call the true, the good and the beautiful.

01:13:11.000 And that's their policy program.

01:13:12.000 Some of it's toxic compassion.

01:13:14.000 Like it's not manipulatedate good people into doing evil things and and a lot of times people, if they see a woman crying, they just think, I need to stop that.

01:13:23.000 You mean like, you mean like toxic empathy, toxic empathy, too much of it.

01:13:26.000 Yeah.

01:13:27.000 Organized empathy, suicidal compassion.

01:13:29.000 I mean toxic femininity.

01:13:31.000 Yeah.

01:13:31.000 Sure.

01:13:32.000 I mean, there's no doubt about that, but it's like, even then, it's so hypocritical too, because it's like, you know, what they're weeping and wailing and gnashing their teeth and rending their garments and traveling down to El Salvador to see Kilmar when he's just a he's a terrible guy, right?

01:13:45.000 So I think it really is just in that sense it's really it's performative empathy.

01:13:51.000 That's what that's the word I would use.

01:13:52.000 It's performative empathy for someone that they think fits into their sort of intersectionality boxes of an underprivileged individual that they can use to weaponize against the goodness of the American nation.

01:14:05.000 I find that malicious when people I do believe you that there are people in positions of power that are not actually feeling the empathy.

01:14:12.000 They're just pretending like they do, and to get the people that actually do feel the empathy to follow their lead.

01:14:17.000 Like they're like, look, I care.

01:14:18.000 I'm going to El Salvador when deep down, like, it's a political stunt.

01:14:24.000 I'll look for some word.

01:14:25.000 Oh, I got a chance to say anything I want because they're busy.

01:14:28.000 God is good.

01:14:29.000 You are connected to the universe.

01:14:30.000 Your thoughts are affecting reality.

01:14:32.000 They're bending and twisting the web of fate.

01:14:34.000 None of that is true.

01:14:35.000 Okay, enough Moon Lord.

01:14:37.000 I just I sent it to you on X. Okay, thank you.

01:14:41.000 I don't have X here because I'm on Tim's Ian's gonna be like, Don't bring this guy back.

01:14:46.000 He contradicts everything I have to say.

01:14:47.000 I need you to contradict.

01:14:48.000 For too long I stayed around people that just said yes to everything I would say.

01:14:51.000 It was boring.

01:14:52.000 I couldn't improve as a human.

01:14:53.000 That must have been like in the slack.

01:14:55.000 When Biden was president.

01:14:56.000 I just Yeah.

01:14:58.000 I felt like I was being kept in a cushy cage.

01:15:00.000 What are you guys pulling up next?

01:15:01.000 What are you talking about?

01:15:02.000 Hold on a second.

01:15:03.000 It was a breaking.

01:15:04.000 Well, there's breaking news?

01:15:05.000 Yeah.

01:15:05.000 And it was Yeah.

01:15:06.000 You put it in the general?

01:15:07.000 No, I put it in the IRL slack?

01:15:10.000 The No, the IRL slack.

01:15:11.000 When you cut me off when it's time, but until it's time to change.

01:15:14.000 Your thoughts are vibrating your neurons, which is causing a resonation of the field around you, which the people in that resonation field then start to vibrate.

01:15:22.000 And so that's how you have a fatty coupling of like psychic communication.

01:15:25.000 But I think the spirits of reality also are in that magnetic field.

01:15:31.000 Yeah.

01:15:31.000 So this is breaking.

01:15:33.000 The Trump Administration Live updates FBI search home and office of John Bolton Trump advisor turned critic.

01:15:40.000 It looks like I don't know why this is such a bit.

01:15:45.000 What was that?

01:15:46.000 The Invest Go ahead and read it, Libby.

01:15:49.000 Yeah, so it turns out John Bolton is also being investigated for potential violations of the Espionage Act, which makes it a crime to illegally retain or transmit national defense information, according to people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss details of the case.

01:16:06.000 This also came up on, I think, on Jesse Waters as well.

01:16:10.000 So yeah, so they're investigating Bolton as well.

01:16:14.000 The Espionage Act is a, you know, it's a very big deal.

01:16:18.000 That implies that he's given national secrets to foreign entities, right?

01:16:24.000 Yeah, so that would mean that he was sharing cl classified information, not just to write his dumb book, but to, you know, potentially, potentially undermine the foreign affairs of the Trump administration, which is what he's been trying to do since Trump came to office in January.

01:16:41.000 Anyway, I'm thinking the T word is on the table here.

01:16:43.000 The T word.

01:16:44.000 I don't know if you know it.

01:16:45.000 It's a very big word.

01:16:46.000 It's a big word.

01:16:47.000 It is.

01:16:48.000 Treason.

01:16:49.000 Treason.

01:16:49.000 Very bad thing.

01:16:50.000 That's what this is.

01:16:51.000 So that's pretty interesting.

01:16:52.000 That really makes it a lot less of a, you know, so called political prosecution and it puts it into the realm of actual criminality.

01:16:59.000 But if they're nailing the, sorry, interrupt.

01:17:02.000 No, go far.

01:17:02.000 The espionage aspect of it.

01:17:04.000 If it's that he took classified information and put it in his book and now the Chinese government is able to read his book.

01:17:08.000 So that's espionage.

01:17:09.000 I'm like, oh, I think that's different.

01:17:11.000 Yeah.

01:17:11.000 I don't think I would hope.

01:17:12.000 Yeah, that that seems like that would But this indicates that he's actually wired sending information to foreigners.

01:17:18.000 Or just sharing sharing information with people that he is not authorized to share information with.

01:17:22.000 This is totally pontificating or maybe I'm asking you guys totally to pontificate, but who do you like?

01:17:27.000 That is your job.

01:17:28.000 That's your job.

01:17:28.000 Who are the most likely who are the most likely recipients of this information?

01:17:31.000 Do you think that he would be sharing it with like Ukraine or with Well, he's he was into he was into the whole Ukraine war, right?

01:17:37.000 So I don't know.

01:17:39.000 I mean, I'm not great with foreign affairs, I gotta say.

01:17:41.000 That was the first thing that came to mind for me is like Ukraine.

01:17:44.000 We know that the former chairman of the Jo Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley was like calling the Chinese.

01:17:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:17:51.000 Offering them assurances that he had no right and no authority to do outside of the chain of command, undercutting the president whom he answered.

01:17:59.000 So I mean, I got, I got to say, do you know why they haven't called him back and actually court martialed that guy?

01:18:03.000 You know, it's crazy, I forgot about that.

01:18:06.000 That was seriously messed up.

01:18:07.000 Well, bringing up Bolton and the espionage acts just reminded me of this.

01:18:11.000 And I just have to say, like, it's time not to just have raids or we need arrests.

01:18:17.000 Yeah.

01:18:18.000 Well, I mean, we need arrests.

01:18:19.000 Hopefully we're getting there, but like, yeah.

01:18:21.000 We need arrests.

01:18:21.000 This is something that we, that we talk about.

01:18:23.000 There's a lot of people that are very.

01:18:24.000 There are people that are even like that sit around the table a lot.

01:18:26.000 We were talking about it last night.

01:18:27.000 There are people that are extremely impatient.

01:18:30.000 They believe that Donald Trump should have come back and like people should have been arrested immediately.

01:18:35.000 And I've been like, look, you need to understand that there is a process that they have to go through because you don't want people to get arrested and then get away with it.

01:18:45.000 If you don't have all your ducks in a row and you don't have all this stuff together when you prosecute and you charge them and they get out because you didn't have your S together, then you can't charge them again because of double jeopardy, right?

01:18:57.000 Like they've already beaten the charge.

01:18:59.000 You can't charge them again.

01:19:00.000 You don't want to just willingly do this stuff.

01:19:03.000 Now I hear, and this is just stuff that I've read on X and stuff, but I hear there are grand jury being assembled for multiple different infringements or different charges that have been brought against people or they're looking to see.

01:19:20.000 So I do think that arrests will be coming or more arrests will be coming.

01:19:24.000 But I think that this situation with Bolton shows that they are working on this stuff.

01:19:30.000 And so I agree with you totally.

01:19:32.000 I wouldn't.

01:19:33.000 I want to see more, but I also have, at least as far as my, you know, my gut says, like patience.

01:19:41.000 is better because it means that if they do make an arrest, they have a more solid case.

01:19:49.000 The feds have like 95 percent, they have like 95 percent conviction rate when they or higher.

01:19:55.000 Like if they arrest someone, they have their shit together.

01:19:58.000 Or they're kangaroo cording it up, you know, one or the other.

01:20:00.000 But well, I mean, those numbers are so high.

01:20:02.000 It's possible.

01:20:02.000 But one of the issues here too is that like for many of these things, we've been aware of them for so many years.

01:20:08.000 And it's like, well, yeah, well, Biden, it was Biden's DOJ.

01:20:11.000 Like Biden's, they were not going to go roll up Mark Milley, right?

01:20:15.000 Or look into, they, they, they, they, they closed the case on Bolton, right?

01:20:18.000 So it's like, you're right, it's only August still, it's not even September yet.

01:20:22.000 So good, good word, Phil.

01:20:24.000 You know, I just like I said, I mean, I have the same impulses.

01:20:27.000 I want to see people go to jail that have broken the law.

01:20:30.000 I think that there have been tons of political prosecutions from the Democrats.

01:20:34.000 There was a point that you made earlier, you were talking about you think that the Democrats would come after possibly you.

01:20:39.000 I think that if the Democrats get back to power, I think they will come after people like Joe Rogan, they'll come after people like Tim, they'll come after people all over the right, people that are influencers because the influencers, they believe that the influencers are why they lost.

01:20:51.000 They don't believe that their policies were bad.

01:20:53.000 They don't believe that people rejected Kamala Harris because of her influence inability and her stunning lack of political skill.

01:21:02.000 They believe that it was because influencers and people were lying and telling stories and all sorts of things.

01:21:06.000 They believe that freedom of speech is a bad thing.

01:21:08.000 So I think that they will come after a lot of conservatives using whatever tools they have at their disposal, which the federal government has significant tools at their disposal.

01:21:18.000 I mean, they'll come after as many people as they can.

01:21:21.000 What do you think about this?

01:21:22.000 And this is a little bit of a tangent, but I really want to talk about Gavin Newsom, because I think he saw what you're talking about, that it was the power of the communication of like podcasts and things that elevated like Trump went on Rogan two weeks before the election went on Theo Vaughn, huge exposure to a new crowd of people or people they didn't quite know, maybe we're on a fence.

01:21:40.000 And Newsom saw that, so he's been doing podcast runs.

01:21:43.000 I think he's going to be the Democratic nominee in 28.

01:21:45.000 I think he's willing to take action.

01:21:48.000 He put it on his, you know, he put it on his wish board.

01:21:52.000 He's going to make it happen.

01:21:53.000 Okay, so it'd be him and JD Vance if they're going to Yeah, you already see him going after JD Vance.

01:21:57.000 There was this crazy thing this week where Gavin Newsom posted a picture of himself in high school versus Vance.

01:22:02.000 Oh yeah.

01:22:02.000 And he looks like this prep school pretty boy with a really nice scarf, and JD Vance looks kind of like a fat weird kid.

01:22:08.000 And you're looking at it and you're like, I'd rather have the fat weird kid than the guy with the pretty boy with the scarf.

01:22:16.000 Yeah.

01:22:17.000 A couple of points on that.

01:22:18.000 One is that I think it, I think Newsom will probably probably get it, but you have to remember.

01:22:25.000 I'm not so sure.

01:22:25.000 That, well, I was going to say, you have to remember that like so much of it has to go through the black vote, and particularly in the South, and are they going to go for Newsom or not?

01:22:36.000 It was when Biden was struggling in the primary, you know, Clyburn had to drag his rear across the finish line in South Carolina to lock it up for him.

01:22:46.000 I'm not so sure that Clyburn will give the blessing to Gavin Newsom.

01:22:51.000 And if Clyburn doesn't give him the blessing, he will not be the guy, first of all.

01:22:53.000 Second of all, I don't think that the you know as well as anyone else that the Democratic Party has so many people that are very committed to the progressive agenda, to the whole woke thing, you know, a white guy with that, I mean, if you saw the you've seen the pictures of his family, they don't bond family.

01:23:10.000 They don't really care about that.

01:23:12.000 They only care about power.

01:23:13.000 No, the progressives, the progressives in that are the people that are going to be voting in the primary care, the people that are vote, like your major.

01:23:21.000 They have no leader.

01:23:22.000 I mean, the thing is, he's the one hold on, hold on.

01:23:24.000 They're going to, they're going to, I think that he would have a significantly difficult time getting over that hump.

01:23:31.000 He would need an electoral candidate.

01:23:32.000 And one of our guests that was here the other day made a great point.

01:23:35.000 He would need someone like Crockett as VP, which is what he would need.

01:23:40.000 Did you see her in the podcast the other day?

01:23:42.000 No.

01:23:42.000 He had her on the other day and he was praising her and telling her how wonderful she is.

01:23:47.000 Yeah.

01:23:48.000 Yeah.

01:23:49.000 She's awful.

01:23:50.000 And she went out there saying that ICE are supposed to be Uber drivers for illegal immigrants.

01:23:54.000 That's right.

01:23:54.000 That's their whole job.

01:23:55.000 She just got re-districted in Texas.

01:23:57.000 Well, she might be looking for a job.

01:23:59.000 But if you have someone like Jasmine Crockett, then maybe he has a better chance.

01:24:05.000 But I don't know if he can do it alone because the Democratic Party still has that civil war going on.

01:24:11.000 Are they a normal party or are they the progressive party?

01:24:14.000 It seems like they failed.

01:24:15.000 The progressive Democratic Party has failed and is shattered and now Newsom's there to pick up the pieces.

01:24:21.000 I don't think he's really a nut job.

01:24:23.000 But it hasn't yet.

01:24:24.000 It is in the process, yeah.

01:24:25.000 It hasn't left behind the woke stuff.

01:24:27.000 There's a massive fight in the Democratic Party about whether they are the between the progressives and the liberals.

01:24:33.000 Just the other day, someone that Kayla, the not so erudite, was posting on X and I thought it was a ridiculous thing that she said, but she said that she was she had a clip of the woman and the black Republican guy and the radical progressive from Jubilee and where the woman was doing all of the intersectional making all the intersectional arguments and the conservative kid.

01:25:01.000 Yeah, the conservative kid just ragged Alder.

01:25:04.000 He just beat the snot out of her.

01:25:05.000 And Kayla said something along the lines of, you know, Democrats or Liberals should never have agreed to this stuff.

01:25:12.000 We don't agree to it.

01:25:13.000 Talking about the progressive ideology, we don't agree to it.

01:25:16.000 And we should never have let these people get so loud.

01:25:18.000 I personally think that they're going to elect Mom Donnie to lead New York City.

01:25:22.000 I personally think that statement is ridiculous.

01:25:24.000 I think that she's saying that because there are.

01:25:27.000 so many people that have actually come out against Woke, the Democrats have never had a worse or haven't had a such a bad brand in fifty years or something like that.

01:25:36.000 And I think that she's doing damage control because your average liberal absolutely was on board with all the progressive stuff.

01:25:44.000 When they thought they were winning, they were all on board with it.

01:25:47.000 You know, it was very rare, there were very few, there were few not, and maybe Kayla's one of them.

01:25:52.000 I don't, I'm not familiar with with all with her work, but there are very few people in the Democratic Party that were what you would consider regular liberals, not progressives, but regular liberals that were speaking up against the progressives because the progressives were so loud and so aggressive.

01:26:07.000 That's what they would call them.

01:26:09.000 all they would call them all the names they would call them racists, blah, blah, blah, if you tried to push back.

01:26:13.000 So nobody had the balls to say that.

01:26:15.000 So why those people are now in the Republican Party and they voted for Trump.

01:26:18.000 So the idea that the liberals were not on board with it, I think is totally ridiculous.

01:26:22.000 Some of the liberals were afraid they were voting against Trump, not necessarily for the psychopolitics, but and so those people now as an opportunity because there won't be Trump in 2028, obviously it will be Vance probably.

01:26:32.000 And it's just a matter of is Vance going to scare people?

01:26:34.000 I don't think he needs to.

01:26:35.000 It doesn't matter if Vance is going to scare people, the left is going to scare people.

01:26:39.000 They were preparing the field for Vance to be considered worse than Donald Trump.

01:26:45.000 The argument is going to be, look., Donald Trump was bad, but Donald Trump was a buffoon.

01:26:49.000 JD Vance is much smarter.

01:26:51.000 JD Vance went to, I think he went to Harvard, right?

01:26:53.000 He went to this, this elite, the Ivy League school.

01:26:56.000 JD Vance made a bunch of money in the tech world.

01:26:59.000 He's much smarter.

01:27:00.000 He's much more dangerous.

01:27:01.000 He's worse than Trump.

01:27:02.000 And Donald Trump was Hitler, but JD Vance is worse.

01:27:05.000 You know that they were doing it when he's not Stalin.

01:27:08.000 Like they couldn't say that.

01:27:09.000 Okay, but they were doing that exactly same thing when, when, what's his name from Florida was running?

01:27:16.000 DeSantis.

01:27:17.000 They started laying the groundwork for DeSantis is worse than Trump because, and it was the same argument.

01:27:21.000 Trump's a buffoon and DeSantis is a lawyer.

01:27:25.000 DeSantis is this.

01:27:26.000 Trump is worse than that.

01:27:27.000 It's worse than that.

01:27:29.000 You're saying that you think the Democrats are not going to go for Newsom because he's a white guy.

01:27:33.000 And I think when the Democrats are in trouble, they always go back to the white guy because all those liberal women who go out there and complain about everyone, they really just trust a white guy.

01:27:42.000 I think they have to figure out who they are as a party.

01:27:44.000 They are not going to figure that out.

01:27:46.000 And when they do figure it out, it's going to be the far left.

01:27:49.000 That's what they're going to go for.

01:27:50.000 They're leaning towards Mom Dani.

01:27:52.000 They're leaning towards all that stuff.

01:27:54.000 And that's why you see the big problem where Hakim Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, they're not endorsing Mom Dani, but they're also going to be against him because they can't.

01:28:03.000 They have to wait and see what happens in December.

01:28:05.000 Revolution never stops where you go.

01:28:07.000 Fulmo, they're not going to New Yorkers are not going to go to the party of perpetual revolution.

01:28:12.000 And so, I mean, it's going to be.

01:28:14.000 It didn't used to be.

01:28:15.000 They didn't used to be.

01:28:16.000 I mean, if the Democrats could actually go back to their, you know, non-racist roots as, you know, a party that is pro union, where you can be a pro life Democrat, where, you know, you're pro social safety net, but you're, you know, like the 1986 Liberals.

01:28:33.000 Well, no, I know I know what you're saying, but I mean, I just I don't see that's now what MAGA is.

01:28:38.000 That's sixty what MAGA is, right?

01:28:42.000 MAGA has taken that place.

01:28:44.000 Like you can be a pro choice MAGA Republican.

01:28:48.000 You can be that, right?

01:28:51.000 You can't be the reverse of that on the left.

01:28:53.000 It's just, it just doesn't exist.

01:28:54.000 I think a lot about parties and I actually posted that the party doesn't make the man, the man makes the party and when you look at a party, a political party, it doesn't matter what it's called.

01:29:03.000 Who's in the party right now?

01:29:04.000 That's what that party is.

01:29:06.000 What are they saying?

01:29:07.000 That's what that party is.

01:29:08.000 And it can change from moment to moment.

01:29:10.000 It might be a completely different party if we have eighteen new people and eighteen people leave.

01:29:14.000 So keep that in mind.

01:29:15.000 I mean, on that point, they released this whole list of words.

01:29:17.000 I don't know if you saw this.

01:29:19.000 They're like, here are words Democrats need to stop using like birthing people and chest feeding and centering and let everyone LGBTQIA was holding space.

01:29:32.000 The point there is that if you're trying to counsel your radical activists and not even that radical, it's like pretty widespread throughout the party to stop using words like chest feeding and birthing people.

01:29:44.000 That's who the party is.

01:29:46.000 I don't think their messaging discipline is going to change that.

01:29:49.000 Well, I mean, yeah, I think you're right.

01:29:51.000 And that's my point.

01:29:52.000 I think that just like Libby was saying, like, Democrats have left.

01:30:00.000 Democrats came over to the MAGA side for a large part.

01:30:03.000 Now there's some people that really, you know, they have to hold their nose and vote for Donald Trump, but they still did.

01:30:08.000 And I think that someone like JD Vance is probably less offensive than Donald Trump to those people.

01:30:13.000 And I think that the Democrats are actually going to end up being the Progressive Party and the old school, you know, normal Democrats are actually going to evaporate.

01:30:22.000 Well, you guys saw the thing last night, right in Virginia, Winsome Sears, lieutenant governor, she's running for governor.

01:30:28.000 She was out there having a rally and some people showed up to protest her.

01:30:33.000 And this one, this gray haired white lady held up a sign and it literally.

01:30:39.000 read, Hey Winsome, Winsome's a black woman.

01:30:42.000 Hey Winsome, if trans can't share your bathroom, then blacks can't share my water fountain.

01:30:49.000 I saw that.

01:30:50.000 And even the Democrats.

01:30:51.000 It was great because it gave me an opportunity to make this point with this theory that I have, which I think is 100% factual as all my theories are, is that white boomer woke progressives are the only actual really racist people left in America.

01:31:09.000 And they're going around yelling at us about anti-racism all the time.

01:31:13.000 They grew up, like they grew up sort of in the vestiges of like institutional racism.m to whatever degree it did exist in this country.

01:31:20.000 Well, that's Jim Crow.

01:31:21.000 I mean, that stuff exists.

01:31:22.000 Yeah, right, right.

01:31:23.000 But I mean, like after the, like however much continued even in uninstitutionalized fashion.

01:31:28.000 But anyway, these people, like, they actually don't like minorities, right?

01:31:32.000 So it's like all your like 23-year-olds.

01:31:34.000 Well, they like them to do their lawns and shops.

01:31:36.000 Exactly.

01:31:36.000 It's like who's going to pick our crops.

01:31:38.000 Like all the 23-year-old zoomers who share like the racist memes, like those guys aren't actually racist.

01:31:44.000 This lady who held the sign up is, right?

01:31:47.000 Like she really actually is.

01:31:48.000 And this gave her an opportunity to display it, you know, finally one time again.

01:31:52.000 Have you heard of Nick Fuentes?

01:31:54.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I know Nick.

01:31:55.000 Because I know that man is actually racist.

01:31:57.000 A lot of what Nick does is performative too.

01:31:59.000 Yeah, he mixes it up.

01:32:01.000 Maybe, but he's definitely not.

01:32:03.000 I thought that this thing with this sign was really, really pretty amazing because she had to, she hand lettered this sign.

01:32:08.000 She had to write this down.

01:32:10.000 She had to read it over and make sure there weren't any mistakes.

01:32:13.000 She put American flags on either side of this sign so that everyone would know this is what she thought America was all about.

01:32:20.000 And then she went out there in public and said that, you know, transgender and gender ideology is the same thing as equality under the law for races, even though obviously races all races., all races have two sexes.

01:32:34.000 There's no difference.

01:32:35.000 All you know, there's no difference.

01:32:38.000 And there are no rights that transgender people don't have.

01:32:42.000 There are not any rights that transgender people don't have.

01:32:45.000 In fact, there are rights that they seem to have that nobody else has.

01:32:48.000 Nobody else has.

01:32:48.000 Like the right to go invade, you know, an opposite gender private space, bathroom, whatever.

01:32:54.000 Right.

01:32:54.000 All kinds of weird trans rights.

01:32:56.000 A lot of these problems could, a lot of these problems will get solved when people stop using the phrase gender.

01:33:02.000 Gender is a made up thing.

01:33:04.000 Sex is real.

01:33:05.000 Gender is make believe.

01:33:07.000 Yes, of course.

01:33:07.000 Well, of course, I mean, gender was created as a kind concept essentially by feminists so that they could say that there were not innate roles that were specifically for women.

01:33:20.000 If you look at the roots of if you look at feminism in the 20th century, it caused this problem rather substantially.

01:33:28.000 This problem would not exist gender, yeah.

01:33:31.000 Otherwise.

01:33:32.000 Stop using the phrase gender.

01:33:33.000 Gender isn't real.

01:33:34.000 Sex is real.

01:33:35.000 Biological sex is real.

01:33:37.000 Men are men.

01:33:38.000 Women are women.

01:33:39.000 And all that other stuff is just mumbo jumbo to confuse you.

01:33:43.000 But we're going to jump to one quick story here at the end here from NPR.

01:33:48.000 Intel will give the US government a ten percent stake, says Trump.

01:33:53.000 President Trump said on Friday he has asked Intel CEO Lipbau for ten for Lipbau Tan for a ten percent stake in the company during a recent meeting at the White House.

01:34:02.000 He agreed and they've agreed to it and I think it's a great deal for them.

01:34:05.000 Trump told reporters he's he's walked in wanting to keep his job and ended up giving us ten billion for the United States, Trump said.

01:34:12.000 So that means that the United States has ten percent stake in Intel?

01:34:15.000 That's what it says.

01:34:17.000 Is that fascism, by the way.

01:34:19.000 Is that kind of unprecedented?

01:34:21.000 That seems a little crazy.

01:34:22.000 No, it's not unprecedented because the fact that I mean you have a stake inke in Ford or anything, or Moe.

01:34:28.000 The GM they did right after the 2008.

01:34:31.000 Yeah, and they owned a bunch of them.

01:34:32.000 And what about all the banks?

01:34:33.000 Yeah, we know.

01:34:34.000 It's not, it's not unprecedented.

01:34:36.000 But I think they're buying them up.

01:34:38.000 Wait, wait, wait, guys.

01:34:40.000 The point of this, I think, and I haven't read this through yet, but I think the point of this is to do something to increase the United States access to chips that are necessary for national defense.

01:34:52.000 Because right now there's tons of really complex chips that go into all kinds of missiles and all kinds of planes and all kinds of stuff.

01:34:59.000 And the US outsources that stuff to Taiwan, right?

01:35:03.000 A lot of chips that are made in Taiwan.

01:35:05.000 So if I end, if I understand correctly, this is because they want access to all the semiconductor industry.

01:35:10.000 So hold on a second.

01:35:11.000 In a statement released on the company's website late Friday afternoon, Intel confirmed that the government would take, would make a 8.9 billion investment in Intel common stock, reflecting the confidence the administration has in Intel to advance key national priorities and the critically important role the company plays in expanding the domestic semiconductor industry.

01:35:29.000 So the point is, we need to have semiconductors built here for national defense, for all of the high-tech military assets that we have.

01:35:39.000 So this is something that I've actually talked about a bit and I've inquired with people.

01:35:45.000 Should we have some kind of Manhattan Project style, you know, program to shore up our semiconductor availability here in the US.

01:35:58.000 Because without should China decide to take Taiwan, we are almost guaranteed or we're almost required to help them because of national security, right?

01:36:09.000 You have to engage in a war because if we don't, we don't have the ability to provide the semiconductors that we need, not just for our, you know, our phones or whatever, but for actual necessary things for national security, for military planes, for, for, you know.

01:36:24.000 You know, anti air systems for missiles and stuff like that.

01:36:27.000 Those things are necessary.

01:36:27.000 If it could be fascism, it would be if they took the whole company.

01:36:30.000 Yes, it would be, but it starts with ten percent.

01:36:32.000 Right, but it Well, no, I don't think so.

01:36:34.000 I think it's when the government and the corporations collude to take power.

01:36:37.000 That's oligarchy.

01:36:37.000 But that's not, and it's not, they're not colluding to take power.

01:36:39.000 There's a small group of wealthy men.

01:36:41.000 They're not, they're not colluding to take power.

01:36:42.000 This isn't a power is ten percent stock in, but the point is, it's the government working with the company in order to be able to produce the things necessary that the government, you know, the thing the government needs.

01:36:54.000 Well, I'm not saying fascism is evil.

01:36:55.000 Some fascism is good.

01:36:56.000 And in a way, this might be a very good thing.

01:36:58.000 Because if it comes to life and death, I'll take fascism and survival over not fascism and death.

01:37:03.000 And if it means that we need to step up our government needs to take control of the private company to make weapons to our survival, well, that's an argument I would.

01:37:11.000 10% stake is not taking control.

01:37:12.000 What's the third step though?

01:37:14.000 Okay, so but that's different.

01:37:16.000 That's a question of if there's going to be another step.

01:37:18.000 10% is not.

01:37:20.000 The point of that is giving them money, right?

01:37:22.000 That's what they did.

01:37:23.000 They gave Intel money so that way Intel could expand in the US.

01:37:27.000 If they just like printed eight trillion and gave or eight billion and gave it to them.

01:37:30.000 Yes.

01:37:31.000 Okay, I mean, it's not the worst.

01:37:33.000 Maybe we I'm with you on the superconductor.

01:37:36.000 I mean, we need chip production in the United States.

01:37:38.000 And we need to step on it that.

01:37:42.000 Yeah, I mean, personally, I think there's a couple of industries that the US should really put some effort into.

01:37:48.000 I think when it comes to energy creation, I think nuclear, I think that, I mean, possibly, excuse me, possibly solar.

01:37:56.000 I'm not, I'm not against solar power.

01:37:59.000 I think that in the, in the future, it's probably going to be more common.

01:38:03.000 Also piezoelectric, have you followed that much?

01:38:05.000 They've just developed these like walkways that charge in Tokyo.

01:38:09.000 Yeah.

01:38:09.000 Oh, yeah, they walk on them.

01:38:10.000 Yeah.

01:38:11.000 It's just the, the stress, the tension creates electricity.

01:38:13.000 Yeah, that's great for helping.

01:38:15.000 For shoes.

01:38:15.000 That's great for helping like, you know, municipalities and stuff like that.

01:38:18.000 But I'm thinking of stuff like, I'm thinking of the stuff that would be able to.

01:38:22.000 Explosive force.

01:38:22.000 Well, not so much that.

01:38:24.000 I'm thinking of stuff that would be able to run, you know, data processing centers.

01:38:28.000 Things that AI is going to need because the U.S. isn't going to be in an arms race with AI, with other countries over AI.

01:38:35.000 Because AI could possibly be a revolutionary technology that makes other countries'military assets almost useless.

01:38:47.000 So that's possible.

01:38:49.000 But what do you guys think?

01:38:50.000 Do you think this is a good idea?

01:38:51.000 Do you think at this price point, do you think it's a smart move?

01:38:56.000 Do you guys have an idea about it?

01:38:58.000 I mean, there's no doubt that making sure that we have reduced dependence on supply chains that could be easily threatened or weaponized against us, whether it's in chase, like we have supply chain dependence on China for a whole host of different things.

01:39:13.000 This was exposed during the pandemic.

01:39:15.000 We rely on chip production in Taiwan, which is in a very vulnerable region, and there's been some really good work being done by Elbridge Colby on the Taiwan issue in particular and trying to get like Pacific Allies to step up to the plate on that.

01:39:30.000 So that's important.

01:39:31.000 Maybe this is a part of that strategy.

01:39:34.000 I'm going to poll Donald Trump.

01:39:35.000 You're just now telling me this for the first time.

01:39:37.000 So it does seem strange to me..

01:39:39.000 It seems odd.

01:39:40.000 Like, I mean, I trust it's not illegal, you know, that we're we're purchasing, you know, investment in a company.

01:39:48.000 It does feel a little bit like picking winners and losers, but maybe Intel is the only game in town.

01:39:55.000 And if that's the case, then, you know, I mean, you're also stopping them from selling chips to China.

01:40:01.000 Wasn't that a thing?

01:40:02.000 There are certain chips that no one can sell to China.

01:40:05.000 So like Nvidia, which there's Nvidia is already the winner.

01:40:09.000 Like lately in the past five years, Nvidia has been absolutely crushing.

01:40:15.000 And I don't think this, I don't think 10 billion for Intel is going to boost up Intel to the capacity that NVIDIA has.

01:40:22.000 NVIDIA has been just crushing when it comes to chip manufacturing.

01:40:26.000 So I don't think that it's actually picking winners and losers.

01:40:29.000 I do get the feeling that this is just about securing access to chips made here in the US.

01:40:37.000 But yeah, I think that, I mean, personally, I think that it's a good thing because the US needs to have the ability to produce chips for our national defense.

01:40:45.000 As long as these jobs aren't going to be given to H1B visas.

01:40:48.000 Well, and so if we're building chips in the United States of America, we darn well better make sure that the jobs are going to American citizens.

01:40:56.000 I mean, I agree.

01:40:57.000 I think that personally, I think the whole H-1B visa program should be ended for a decade at least.

01:41:04.000 Normally, the government would subsidize the industry and then Intel would reap the rewards, maybe nine billion in tax write offs or something.

01:41:12.000 So the idea that the government bought stake in a private company with my money is very strange.

01:41:18.000 Unprecedented.

01:41:19.000 Like are a lot of things.

01:41:20.000 Not unprecedented.

01:41:20.000 It's not unprecedented though.

01:41:22.000 Because what was it?

01:41:22.000 What happened before?

01:41:23.000 They bought in us, they basically, when they bailed out GM, they bought in 2008 right after the, right after the, the seized the means of production.

01:41:32.000 There was a bunch of banksks they bought.

01:41:33.000 They're the big brothers.

01:41:34.000 Yeah, like, this is not unprecedented.

01:41:36.000 Is all of them having to buy it and liquidate it?

01:41:38.000 No, they just gave them money.

01:41:39.000 No, I think Ian's like Ian's right though.

01:41:41.000 It's a little bit different in that this is a proactive measure being taken to sort of accelerate a positive development versus a reactive measure being taken to ameliorate a disaster.

01:41:53.000 How do you think, how different?

01:41:54.000 Two different things.

01:41:55.000 How different in your mind is this to the Manhattan Project?

01:41:57.000 Well, so you had brought up the Manhattan, it was funny because you, you, Ian was like, this is fascism.

01:42:02.000 Then you're like, Manhattan Project.

01:42:03.000 Then Ian's like, yes, we need it.

01:42:05.000 So I was like, trying to track.

01:42:06.000 Like the Manhattan Project was a different thing that wasn't, that wasn't the United St States like heavily investing in one particular company.

01:42:14.000 It was a collaboration to solve like sort of a critical civilizational issue with heavy government investment in a project, like in a government project.

01:42:25.000 Right?

01:42:25.000 So this is, I mean, it's just those are two different things.

01:42:28.000 Wouldn't this be significantly less impactful?

01:42:30.000 Like the $10 billion to a company that already exists as opposed to literally bootstrapping the technology, the infrastructure, and the weapon itself.

01:42:42.000 Yeah, but the difference here is, is the Manhattan Project was fundamentally federal funding for a federal project.

01:42:51.000 This is federal investment in a private company.

01:42:55.000 Okay.

01:42:55.000 So that's kind of the difference.

01:42:57.000 So for me, at least from my perspective, the way that I see it, I feel like it's a much smaller effort than something like the Manhattan Project, right?

01:43:06.000 I have no idea what the price tag was on the Manhattan Project.

01:43:09.000 It was crazy.

01:43:09.000 Yeah.

01:43:10.000 That's my guess.

01:43:11.000 I don't know.

01:43:12.000 I don't mind it.

01:43:12.000 I don't mind the investment in Intel.

01:43:18.000 If the stated goals are these AI race things and whatever else, I don't think I mind it very much.

01:43:23.000 I've been deeply concerned about Taiwan, that's for sure.

01:43:25.000 So, I mean, I see the solution they're aiming at.

01:43:28.000 Adjusted for inflation, the Manhattan Project was $35.4 billion.

01:43:33.000 Over how long?

01:43:35.000 A lot of money to build a bomb.

01:43:35.000 Only a couple of years, wasn't it?

01:43:36.000 Yeah, a couple of years.

01:43:37.000 Yeah.

01:43:37.000 It is a lot of money to build a bomb.

01:43:40.000 But they had to invent the technology, you know?

01:43:42.000 It was $2 billion back in 1940.

01:43:45.000 That's what has to happen now, right?

01:43:46.000 Like, technology has to be invented and which would be AI, the government.

01:43:51.000 Well, that's what the chips are, part of what the chips are for, I imagine.

01:43:54.000 And then maybe they are working on it.

01:43:55.000 Chips power everything.

01:43:56.000 I mean, the world runs on semiconductors.

01:43:59.000 And again, I don't think that like, the government shouldn't be making chips just for, like, they shouldn't be investing in Intel so that we have chips to run iPhones, right?

01:44:06.000 They should be investing in if they're investing in Int Intel, the chips should be exclusively for military uses, for anti air missiles, for cruise missiles.

01:44:16.000 Yeah, and that, for me, that's why it's acceptable because, like, look, man, I don't need the government to put eight billion dollars into Intel so that way my microwave can connect to the internet, right?

01:44:28.000 I don't care.

01:44:29.000 Yeah, I definitely don't, I don't have any appliances that talk.

01:44:32.000 Yeah, you know?

01:44:33.000 Like, I don't need, we don't need extra for that.

01:44:36.000 We don't need to make sure that the Roombas are safe, right?

01:44:38.000 We need to make sure that the F-35s can fly, that the F-22s can fly, that, you know, cruise missiles can work, that we have the ability to defend the United States and our interest rates remain up.

01:44:47.000 Part of Mexico's interest rates will go down if we stay up.

01:44:50.000 Any of those goals.

01:44:51.000 I mean, maybe it's not unprecedented.

01:44:53.000 I don't know.

01:44:54.000 Maybe there have been other times where we've proactively invested in a certain company to help procure a particular outcome.

01:45:01.000 But.

01:45:01.000 Yeah.

01:45:02.000 Well, we've also done things like NASA, right?

01:45:04.000 So NASA is a massive public enterprise.

01:45:07.000 And without it, we would have no private space companies.

01:45:11.000 Like we're the only country that has private space companies.

01:45:14.000 That's pretty baller, right?

01:45:15.000 Yeah.

01:45:16.000 And without the investment that we put into NASA, that would, like, there would be no SpaceX.

01:45:21.000 There would be no whatever Jeff Bezos is one is, what Blue Origin.

01:45:24.000 blue origin, there wouldn't be any of that stuff without that major investment.

01:45:28.000 So I do think that there is a place for government investment to boost industry and things.

01:45:35.000 I just think that a lot of it has to be done with a mind toward what the marketplace wants.

01:45:40.000 Like Joe Biden's EV charging stations all across the country, that was a bad idea.

01:45:45.000 And there weren't that many of them, just like Kamala Harris's EV buses, you know, that broke and no school districts wanted them.

01:45:52.000 Is that all done through subsidy?

01:45:53.000 Yeah, that was all done through executive orders and subsidies and mandates and all kinds of things like that.

01:45:59.000 So it wasn't like it was like the government put out.

01:46:02.000 RFPs for contracts and then, you know, awarded contracts.

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01:46:51.000 The Cleaner47129 just said, Just welcomed my son, third child, to the world today.

01:46:57.000 I figured I would continue the tradition of announcing on Timcast.

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01:47:12.000 And babies tend to make people happy.

01:47:14.000 So congratulations.

01:47:15.000 As you get older, you'll notice...

01:47:18.000 Your, the adults will start to die off in your life.

01:47:20.000 And like, if you don't have the younger generation there, it's kind of lonely.

01:47:24.000 Sovereign Fish says, Unsubd until Phil Lobotomy is no longer on the show.

01:47:28.000 Dude's a total clown show.

01:47:30.000 Here's ten bucks do a trick clown.

01:47:33.000 Thanks for the ten dollars.

01:47:35.000 It's a good click you made with your mouth.

01:47:37.000 Ian's on, Yoder says, Ian's on tonight.

01:47:39.000 Hope he talks about graphene.

01:47:41.000 I didn't yet, but when we were talking about industrialization through government purchasing of companies, I wonder if they're going to start buying graphene companies.

01:47:49.000 Jesse Hughes says, William Wolfe, the most based baptist I know.

01:47:52.000 So he's got some fans out there.

01:47:54.000 He didn't even get into religion much, Tim.

01:47:56.000 I mean, yeah, I mean, you were saying crazy things that I didn't really have a chance to like straight on it.

01:48:00.000 Yeah, we told you.

01:48:02.000 We told you.

01:48:02.000 You sat down.

01:48:03.000 We were like, he's gonna say some crazy stuff.

01:48:04.000 And you're like, what do you mean?

01:48:05.000 Like, you'll see.

01:48:07.000 He's my favorite.

01:48:08.000 I'll talk to you after he's here.

01:48:11.000 Cal says, big fan first, super chat.

01:48:13.000 Per tradition, I'm here with my wife who's working on bringing our daughter into the world.

01:48:16.000 Thanks for helping us stay informed enough to hopefully make the world a better place for her.

01:48:20.000 Go Tim Crew.

01:48:21.000 Cheers.

01:48:21.000 Awesome.

01:48:22.000 Thank you very much for the super chat.

01:48:24.000 Congratulations and best wishes to your wife and to your daughter.

01:48:29.000 And if this is not your first, great.

01:48:32.000 If it's your first, make more.

01:48:36.000 Raymond G. Stanley says, holy moly, John Bol got raided raided we need to do a wellness check on elad bolton bros unite i'm i'm hearing through the grapevine that uh elad's mustache is quivering in fear we wanted to make elad and john bolton the thumbnail but it's okay like that like the uh family guy it's okay did they hurt you oh it's okay uh let's see uh alec pit says bolton lied about wmd's in iraq yeah fact check true So

01:49:07.000 did Colin Powell.

01:49:10.000 Yeah?

01:49:11.000 Or was he given fake information that he repeated?

01:49:13.000 He was given fake information about the yellow cake, and then he had to go before the UN and apologize.

01:49:17.000 That must have been really humiliating for him.

01:49:20.000 Yeah, because saying something that's untrue that you think is real is different than lying.

01:49:24.000 Yeah, no, I think that's true.

01:49:25.000 Daniel, the Master McCullen says, Phil, in my opinion, as an American-born trucker, you're wrong about trucks.

01:49:31.000 Most people can drive a truck forward, but few can back them up.

01:49:34.000 Sucks that illegals ruin it for the actual hard-working legit drivers.

01:49:38.000 Look, man, I agree about it sucks that illegals have ruined it for the American hard-working truck drivers.

01:49:45.000 I agree totally.

01:49:46.000 I've spent a lot of time driving on the roads because of touring and stuff, and the bus is 45 foot and stuff, And I've noticed the difference when you stop at truck stops to tank up.

01:50:00.000 You see a lot of people that are not native born Americans or that don't speak English or whatever.

01:50:06.000 And that's a massive problem.

01:50:08.000 We need people in the United States that are working and that are doing things like driving eighteen wheelers.

01:50:15.000 They need to be able to speak English.

01:50:17.000 So it's good that the Trump administration is cracking down on this.

01:50:21.000 Hopefully they are as brutal about it as I want them to be.

01:50:24.000 Because I think all of these people that are here on visas that can't speak English, like if you can't speak English, you shouldn't be driving a truck.

01:50:30.000 You shouldn't have a CDL.

01:50:32.000 Well, that guy couldn't even read the highway signs.

01:50:33.000 Okay, exactly my point.

01:50:35.000 You get a CDL license if you can't see.

01:50:36.000 You go to California.

01:50:38.000 But it turns out, it turns out that in California in, was it California?

01:50:42.000 Okay, speaking of California.

01:50:43.000 No, it turns out that there was a bribery scheme going on.

01:50:45.000 So there was a there was a guy who was paying, um, no seriously.

01:50:51.000 Yeah.

01:50:51.000 Yeah, there was a third world behavior paying someone off, paying another company, paying the testing company off to pass failing students.

01:50:59.000 Yeah, that you're one hundred percent right.

01:51:00.000 The idea that you can just pay someone in Oregon and Washington.

01:51:04.000 Yeah, the idea in America.

01:51:05.000 In America that like, if I mean, look, if you give, if you try to give a police officer money when they pull you off.

01:51:12.000 Yeah, that should not be it.

01:51:14.000 But in other countries, it's normal.

01:51:16.000 It's what you do.

01:51:17.000 You give the police officer money and then they let you go and you don't have to deal with all the stuff you have to give, you know, whatever the police, what it costs to bribe a cop.

01:51:25.000 But that's something that's normal all over the world.

01:51:27.000 It's normal in Russia, it's normal in all, all over South America, like Africa.

01:51:32.000 That's just the way that it is.

01:51:33.000 So it's special and unique and, and something that we need to try to make sure that remains about America.

01:51:41.000 Like, that is not acceptable behavior here.

01:51:44.000 You can't just give someone money and they'll go ahead and say, okay, we'll let you through even though you can't.

01:51:49.000 And that's what's going on.

01:51:50.000 And as you said, it's third world behavior.

01:51:52.000 And it's because we have so many people that are here from countries and from cultures that are so different from our country.

01:52:00.000 And this is the point, part of the point that I was making earlier about, like, you can't just give people freedom, right?

01:52:05.000 Like, cultures are different and what is acceptable behavior is different from culture to culture.

01:52:09.000 Here we are, like, I know this is, you know, maybe it's, you can call it chauvinism or whatever, but in my opinion, America is the best country in the world.

01:52:18.000 And part of the reason is because we can rely on other Americans to not do things like accept bribes and allow people to do, yeah.

01:52:25.000 I think they can.

01:52:25.000 And we have to again.

01:52:26.000 You can't give people freedom, but you can give them the keys, which is English right now in modern culture.

01:52:32.000 You mean like the language of English?

01:52:34.000 Yeah, if you learn the language of English, you're the keys to freedom basically in the modern day.

01:52:38.000 Okay.

01:52:39.000 Clank Clank I'm a tank says, will you guys talk about the UK and Operation Raise the Colors?

01:52:44.000 Cities that can't pay to collect garbage suddenly have money to cover up patriotic acts.

01:52:47.000 We have man, we were talking about it earlier.

01:52:50.000 Painting the English flag in potholes so that way the magistrate will come and cover them up.

01:52:55.000 What what a ridiculous thing.

01:52:57.000 The idea that you have to wear a mask to fly the flag of your own country.

01:53:02.000 And I didn't see it yesterday, but I saw something today where there was a protest.

01:53:07.000 People, people that were immigrants to Engl England were protesting and they had a big problem with the fact that people were flying the English flag.

01:53:14.000 And the reason is because they're like, oh, this offends me.

01:53:16.000 It's like, then get the F out, man.

01:53:18.000 Like, this is our country.

01:53:20.000 Absolutely crazy.

01:53:21.000 And the promotion.

01:53:22.000 Perfect.

01:53:22.000 Yeah, bring it up.

01:53:23.000 I just want to show this as well.

01:53:24.000 I've been, I've been seeing happen a lot.

01:53:25.000 A lot of people are posting about it happening in Ireland.

01:53:28.000 It's been happening even in Germany.

01:53:30.000 People in Scotland are flying the St. Andrews flag.

01:53:33.000 If it's happening in the continent and within Germany and stuff like that, it's spreading.

01:53:38.000 And if this is an incident I saw, I found also, which apparently happened in York last night, it says that a Muslim gang officially attacked locals over raising the flags being Saint George's flag and then also of course the Union Jack police swarmed the area off Conversation Post with the incident because that's what they would do.

01:53:54.000 Yeah, it's I mean everyone's seen this stuff about Tommy Robinson and how he said that he wants I think it was like the other special forces guy posted something about September 13.

01:54:02.000 Then Tommy Robinson obviously the UK government doesn't like that guy we're talking about it.

01:54:06.000 So we're definitely talking about it.

01:54:08.000 It's big news.

01:54:08.000 Yeah.

01:54:09.000 Yeah.

01:54:10.000 I want to I've seen a lot of commentary about the state of England, right?

01:54:14.000 And whether they're gone and I know that they're not.

01:54:17.000 I have to believe that they're not.

01:54:18.000 So if you're watching this to our English brothers and fathers on the 4th of July, it's all about America..

01:54:25.000 But for the rest of the year, we are rooting for you to wake up and take your country back.

01:54:31.000 I mean, our language is English.

01:54:32.000 Talk about a bond with England.

01:54:34.000 We are one people with different governments at the moment.

01:54:36.000 I mean, the United States, in in, in my opinion, the United States is the fruit of the promise that was begun with the Magna Carta.

01:54:42.000 Well, you know, James Joyce, who was an Irish novelist, he said, the English gave us our, gave us their language and we taught them how to use it.

01:54:51.000 I feel like the English gave us the concept of freedom and we taught them what it means.

01:54:56.000 Yeah.

01:54:56.000 True.

01:54:57.000 So, yes, Clank, Clank, we do talk about it.

01:54:59.000 We totally agree, like, this is, this is, this, this cannot stand.

01:55:03.000 England needs to be English and the English people need to stand up and assert their rights.

01:55:09.000 The Europeans.

01:55:10.000 Yeah, the Europeans.

01:55:11.000 If the king's floundering and not doing it, that's why self-determination is so important and self-governance, because you can't rely on the old guy every day, you know?

01:55:20.000 Yeah.

01:55:21.000 Wyatt Claydenberg says, Do a cultural war with ex and current congressmen who want to reopen 911.

01:55:27.000 Can you help people get?

01:55:28.000 Can you?

01:55:30.000 Can I help you get people?

01:55:33.000 Cook Alex Jones muddy the water so much people won't touch it.

01:55:36.000 But the San Diego story needs told.

01:55:39.000 I mean, the San Diego story.

01:55:41.000 I don't know.

01:55:42.000 I don't know.

01:55:44.000 And I mean, I know Ian would like to be in on that conversation.

01:55:47.000 What's it about?

01:55:48.000 What's the topic?

01:55:48.000 9-11?

01:55:49.000 Yeah.

01:55:49.000 I interviewed Richard Gage.

01:55:51.000 He's been architects and engineers for 9-11 True.

01:55:53.000 Book Alex Jones, Muddy the Waters.

01:55:55.000 He started an organization that was just really, really, really effective at pushing out, you know, information about 9-11 that wasn't presented in the NIST, the original government explanation, let's say.

01:56:06.000 But that's a whole other conversation.

01:56:08.000 Yeah.

01:56:08.000 Bring me on for that one.

01:56:09.000 Okay.

01:56:09.000 In fact, if we could get Richard Gage for that, that'd be fascinating.

01:56:12.000 Shane H. Wilder said Senator Carol Alvarado will filibuster the redistricting bill hearing tonight.

01:56:18.000 Texas rules state she can't have any food or drink and must remain standing, but she's used a catheter before and went fifteen hours.

01:56:26.000 Gross.

01:56:27.000 That is gross.

01:56:28.000 Also, it sounds painful.

01:56:30.000 Yeah, gross.

01:56:31.000 And thank you for that information, Shane.

01:56:34.000 Gross.

01:56:35.000 Sailor Motoko says at home recovering from a second hospital state with diverticulitis.

01:56:40.000 Boy, that's a awful situation.

01:56:44.000 I've got that.

01:56:45.000 I've got diverticulosis.

01:56:46.000 I had diverticulitis once, man.

01:56:49.000 That put me down for a while.

01:56:50.000 What do you do?

01:56:51.000 He says, Thank God this time it wasn't complicated.

01:56:53.000 As soon as I'm back to 100%, I'll be getting the affected part of, whoa, part of my cor colon cut out.

01:56:58.000 Hot luck, man.

01:56:59.000 Hot luck.

01:56:59.000 What do you do to get it under control?

01:57:01.000 Is it just like inflammation at the colon?

01:57:03.000 They gave me antibiotics and I It's like an infection that causes inflammation.

01:57:07.000 Yeah.

01:57:07.000 Well, it is inflammation.

01:57:08.000 So, but yeah, I mean, I was down for a week.

01:57:12.000 Like, I was, I was rough.

01:57:13.000 And when I, like, I came back, I came back to work a little too early too because I was a little loopy.

01:57:18.000 Like, when I came back, I was like, man, maybe I should.

01:57:20.000 Antibiotics make you loopy.

01:57:21.000 Yeah, I was like, maybe I shouldn't be talking about politics tonight.

01:57:23.000 Uh, you know, so I didn't say anything too crazy, but I felt it.

01:57:26.000 I was like, you know, um, let's see.

01:57:31.000 Omega Rasu says Ian doesn't understand.

01:57:34.000 Satanic is a bastardization of the Hebrew word hashatan.

01:57:38.000 Asha Tan, which means the opposition, which presumes anything that opposes spirituality, religion, Yahweh, Christians conflict.

01:57:44.000 Oh, Yahweh.

01:57:45.000 Yahweh.

01:57:46.000 It's an interesting way to look at it.

01:57:48.000 It makes it for a very exclusive way to worship, though.

01:57:52.000 Well, that's sort of the key tenet of Christianity.

01:57:56.000 Is it accepting, though, of other ways?

01:57:59.000 No.

01:58:00.000 I mean, Jesus said, I am the way.

01:58:02.000 He was a Jew.

01:58:03.000 The truth.

01:58:04.000 Sure.

01:58:04.000 So, a Jew is the way.

01:58:06.000 You can, yeah.

01:58:07.000 You can.

01:58:08.000 It's the fulfillment of the Old Testament.

01:58:09.000 Why don't we be Jews?

01:58:10.000 There are, there are.

01:58:12.000 Because he came in and created the New Testament.

01:58:14.000 That was the new agreement.

01:58:15.000 It was a new covenant.

01:58:18.000 He would have told you to be Jewish.

01:58:19.000 Hey, there are there are there are there are there are also Messianic Jews.

01:58:22.000 There are Jewish people, Jews that believe that Christ was the Savior.

01:58:27.000 That's true.

01:58:27.000 That they still retain their Jewishness.

01:58:30.000 They still do things that the Old Testament says, like, and they'll still do, they'll still act like everyone should have Seder before Easter, you know.

01:58:37.000 We should all have that on Holy Thursday.

01:58:39.000 Okay, well, what's the point?

01:58:40.000 You should read the book of Galatians.

01:58:42.000 It's just a few short chapters where Paul takes this question head on.

01:58:48.000 Just read the book of Galatians in your New Testament.

01:58:51.000 Okay.

01:58:51.000 Yeah.

01:58:52.000 Good idea.

01:58:53.000 By the way, though.

01:58:53.000 You should read it out loud.

01:58:54.000 Epic.

01:58:55.000 What?

01:58:55.000 You should read it out loud on stream and post it to your X page.

01:58:58.000 Galatians, that's a good idea.

01:58:59.000 Yeah.

01:58:59.000 Okay.

01:59:00.000 Jay Stewart says Cag had a holdover for Guatemala, not El Salvador.

01:59:05.000 His lawyers are lying to the public and need to be brought before the bar.

01:59:08.000 Time these liars defend their license instead of being allowed to walk away scot free.

01:59:12.000 Okay.

01:59:13.000 True.

01:59:13.000 Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

01:59:15.000 Yeah, Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

01:59:17.000 In case anyone missed that line there.

01:59:20.000 Let's see.

01:59:21.000 Bright Results Media says is a member for thirty months and he says, good to see you Libby.

01:59:26.000 Hope you come.

01:59:27.000 Hope you cover some of these days.

01:59:29.000 Tim is missing.

01:59:30.000 Best wishes, everybody.

01:59:31.000 I have also been sick.

01:59:33.000 Yeah.

01:59:33.000 I was too.

01:59:34.000 It's been over a month.

01:59:35.000 It's been brutal.

01:59:36.000 Everyone's been sick.

01:59:36.000 Yeah.

01:59:37.000 It drove me out.

01:59:38.000 But thanks for the shout out.

01:59:40.000 Yeah, true.

01:59:41.000 Libby's wonderful.

01:59:42.000 So, let's see.

01:59:43.000 Thanks for being a member for thirty months.

01:59:45.000 Yeah.

01:59:45.000 Thank you.

01:59:46.000 I appreciate it.

01:59:47.000 It's a strangely specific time mark, but it's good for him.

01:59:50.000 That's what it said.

01:59:50.000 Yeah.

01:59:51.000 Unite Unite Glue said, The Guys from China, Fact Chasers in the China Show, might be great guests for any of the shows you guys do.

01:59:59.000 They've lived in China for years and cover nothing but news coming out of China every day.

02:00:02.000 They are really, that's a really good YouTube channel.

02:00:05.000 The China Show is you guys should follow them on YouTube.

02:00:07.000 They're good stuff.

02:00:08.000 I follow a lot of that stuff.

02:00:09.000 I went to high school in Singapore.

02:00:11.000 I'm very, very aware of China and its impact in the world.

02:00:14.000 And yeah, I like their stuff.

02:00:15.000 What do you think?

02:00:16.000 I'll try to have it on the show.

02:00:17.000 What do you think about the Mandate of Heaven?

02:00:19.000 The Mandate of Heaven is a concept where the Chinese people kind of decide who is going to be their leader based on just the average happenings within China.

02:00:26.000 It's an idea of like, if you lose the mandate, if you do something that tarnishes your honor, the honor of China as a whole, then you will no longer be the person who rules China.

02:00:35.000 It's happened a couple of times across numerous dusts like dynasties within China.

02:00:39.000 If basically, if the CCP is just viewed as if you think about the CCP, they're just another dynasty.

02:00:44.000 If the dynasty loses the Mandate of Heaven, then they're no longer fit to rule China.

02:00:48.000 And the Chinese people will then overthrow them.

02:00:49.000 It's happened many times.

02:00:50.000 Trump said he wants to go to heaven.

02:00:51.000 And I was like, I think the road to heaven goes through China.

02:00:54.000 Interesting.

02:00:54.000 Well, he was, he's, uh, I thought that was really interesting because he was saying, you know, I haven't always been the best guy.

02:01:00.000 And maybe if I can stop all this killing, that would help me out.

02:01:03.000 Yeah.

02:01:04.000 And it was, so we have a second to talk about that real quickly because We have a second.

02:01:08.000 You know, Trump obviously got lambasted years ago when he said, I've never asked for forgiveness.

02:01:14.000 Right.

02:01:14.000 And again, I'm a theological conservative Christian.

02:01:19.000 I don't believe in workspace salvation.

02:01:20.000 Right.

02:01:21.000 Like I believe that it's the free gift of grace in Jesus Christ for all of sin and falling short of the glory of God.

02:01:26.000 But to hear that from Trump, to me, it's like saying I'm low on the totem pole.

02:01:31.000 It sounded humble.

02:01:32.000 it's like he's inarticulating inarticulate in his expression of a sort of a change in his spiritual posture.

02:01:41.000 And I like, yeah, like that's not how you get into heaven, but the fact that you want to go to heaven and you realize that you have shortcomings is sort of the first step in realizing you need a savior.

02:01:52.000 Getting shot in the ear will change you.

02:01:55.000 I wonder who told him that he was low on the totem pole.

02:01:57.000 That was a weird.

02:01:57.000 He's just being honest.

02:01:58.000 He'll tell me.

02:01:59.000 I think he probably I think he probably just perceived that himself.

02:02:02.000 Okay, so let's read the corner.

02:02:04.000 Yeah, we got one more from Gabe Hernandez.

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02:02:47.000 William Wolfe, do you have anything you want to shout out?

02:02:49.000 Yeah, thanks for having me again today, folks.

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02:03:16.000 Oh, I wanted to debate great works, getting you into heaven, as well as great thoughts.

02:03:21.000 Have me come back.

02:03:21.000 Let's do it.

02:03:22.000 Let's, man, that would be great.

02:03:23.000 Good to see you, William.

02:03:24.000 There's no debate, Jesus was pretty clear.

02:03:26.000 Yeah, but if you don't do the work, then you can't create a system for people like Jesus to appear.

02:03:30.000 What?

02:03:31.000 Okay, so now Ian, on top of Galatans, you need to go and read the book of James.

02:03:34.000 Okay, okay.

02:03:35.000 Thanks to everyone for coming.

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