Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - TRUMP FIRED DHS HEAD KRISTI NOEM | Timcast IRL #1463 w- Clinton Ohlers

00:02:37.000 Donald Trump has reportedly fired Christy Noam, and there's numerous reasons being given.

00:02:43.000 He is appointing Senator Mark Wayne Mullen to take over the DHS.

00:02:47.000 We'll see if he gets confirmed or how this is going to play out.

00:02:49.000 John Fetterman says he's in favor of it.

00:02:51.000 And Christy Noam is moving over to be a special envoy for the Shield for the Americas, which I have no idea what that is.

00:02:58.000 So we'll learn all about it.

00:02:59.000 So it's going to be interesting.

00:03:00.000 And this shakeup comes after rumors were circulating following what went down in Minnesota that Trump was considering firing Christy Noam.

00:03:07.000 I didn't believe it because it's so difficult to get a confirmation through that it seemed easier just to have someone else do the job while she is still the head of DHS.

00:03:16.000 But I guess Trump finally said no.

00:03:18.000 One of the other stories is that when she's at this congressional testimony hearing, she says she did this $200 million ad campaign with Trump's knowledge.

00:03:26.000 And then Trump got all pissed.

00:03:27.000 Like, I had no idea she was going to spend $200 million on commercials. 1.00

00:03:30.000 And she did.

00:03:31.000 And so it seems like he's pretty upset about that.

00:03:34.000 We're going to talk about that.

00:03:34.000 Plus, we got a bunch of other news.

00:03:36.000 Leaked group chats coming out of the Miami GOP, in which many Republicans say, let's call it untoward things.

00:03:45.000 Racist things and racial slurs and all that stuff you'd expect from a group chat from a bunch of guys, I guess, who are Republicans.

00:03:52.000 I'd be curious about what you'd get from a Democrat group chat.

00:03:55.000 Probably a bunch of grooming or something.

00:03:57.000 I don't know.

00:03:58.000 We'll talk about that stuff.

00:03:59.000 And then we've got an interesting story that's now getting a little bit more steam.

00:04:02.000 A suspected insider who's on track to make $100,000 this month in the prediction markets, accurately predicting U.S. military action, for which the individual has predicted the U.S. is going to enter Iran.

00:04:15.000 U.S. troops are going into Iran by the end of this month.

00:04:18.000 Now, there's some nuance here.

00:04:19.000 Some people are saying this proves it's going to happen because you've got somebody with insider information making a lot of money, $100,000 in a month.

00:04:28.000 My argument's a little different.

00:04:29.000 I think this person's just speculating and then selling their position before it actually gets to that point.

00:04:33.000 So we'll see.

00:04:34.000 We'll break down this story.

00:04:36.000 And then there's a crazy, crazy story.

00:04:38.000 Seth Moulton brought an illegal immigrant to the State of the Union, and the individual is a person of interest in abuse of a minor.

00:04:48.000 It's a really crazy story.

00:04:49.000 We're going to talk about that, my friends.

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00:06:31.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Clinton Ohlers.

00:06:35.000 Hi, great.

00:06:36.000 Great to be here, Tim.

00:06:36.000 Thanks.

00:06:38.000 I'm Clinton Ohlers.

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00:06:52.000 Right on.

00:06:52.000 We've got a lot to talk about, especially in the uncensored portion of the show.

00:06:52.000 Well, should be interesting.

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00:06:57.000 Jump right into the news.

00:06:58.000 We got this from CNN.

00:07:00.000 Trump fires Christy Noam as frustrations build among White House officials and GOP lawmakers.

00:07:05.000 According to NBC News following up, they make reference to her place in the administration had become increasingly unstable following the fatal shooting of two U.S. citizens by federal officers during immigration operations in Minneapolis earlier this year.

00:07:18.000 And amid her fraying relationship with the U.S. Coast Guard and other reported infighting at Homeland Security, her firing by the president on Thursday in an online post comes after weeks of bad press.

00:07:29.000 So here's what Trump had to say.

00:07:30.000 He said, I thank Christy for her service.

00:07:33.000 He said great things about her and that she will be moving to be special envoy for the Shield of the Americas, our new security initiative in the Western Hemisphere.

00:07:42.000 We are announcing on Saturday in Doral, Florida.

00:07:44.000 And then he's calling on undefeated professional MMA fighter Mark Wayne Mullen to take over the DHS.

00:07:52.000 And then, of course, I believe the governor of Oklahoma is going to choose to appoint a senator in the interim, which should be interesting because we'll probably get a rhino.

00:08:01.000 I don't know.

00:08:02.000 But I didn't think he was going to fire her.

00:08:06.000 Getting Mark Wayne Mullen approved by the Senate seems increasingly difficult to pull off unless they give us like a tepid establishment guy and the Democrats just go, I guess I'll vote for him.

00:08:16.000 The Democrats don't want to say yes to anything that Trump does.

00:08:18.000 As for Christy Noam, I was thinking that was going to happen right around all of the hubbub in Minneapolis.

00:08:23.000 The messaging that was coming out around that was really bad.

00:08:27.000 She could have made that whole situation something that didn't get the attention that it did. 0.95

00:08:33.000 They could have handled it far better because honestly, the activities that the police were engaging on, the ICE agents and the federal agents were engaging on the ground, they weren't particularly excessive.

00:08:46.000 They were dealing with people that were doing all they could to interfere with legal law enforcement.

00:08:52.000 No help from local police.

00:08:53.000 Yeah, no help from local police.

00:08:55.000 All that stuff.

00:08:56.000 It didn't have to escalate the way that it did.

00:08:58.000 And Christine Noam's messaging made nothing better.

00:09:00.000 So personally, I was saying at the time I thought that she was going to go.

00:09:03.000 And honestly, I'm a little surprised it took this long.

00:09:05.000 Well, why won't the rest of them go?

00:09:07.000 Huh?

00:09:08.000 What about all of them?

00:09:09.000 All of them, who?

00:09:10.000 Everybody.

00:09:11.000 DOJ as well.

00:09:12.000 Well, I mean, look, you know, I mean, Dan Bongino left out of his own volition.

00:09:17.000 And as for, you know, the other people like Kash Patel and stuff like that, I don't know that Kash Patel isn't doing a good job.

00:09:23.000 I know that there are people that are upset with the way that he characterized the things that he said that he saw with the Evstein stuff.

00:09:29.000 But I do think that Pam Bondi is doing a less than stellar job. 0.93

00:09:32.000 Her actual messaging and stuff is kind of rough.

00:09:36.000 More people thought she would go first.

00:09:38.000 Yeah.

00:09:40.000 If Trump sent her away, I wouldn't be surprised.

00:09:42.000 But I think that because of the kinetic action that was going on in Minneapolis, that's why I wasn't surprised that Christy Noam went.

00:09:48.000 As for Pam Bondi, I think that he probably could do better.

00:09:51.000 But again, it's like it's tough for him to get anyone, you know, anyone approved.

00:09:55.000 So he has to think, if I get rid of this person, who am I going to get that the Senate is actually going to confirm?

00:10:01.000 Because they're not helping him out at all.

00:10:05.000 It feels like people are growing, at least I'm growing increasingly more.

00:10:08.000 We talked about this the other day about how increasingly difficult it is.

00:10:11.000 Everything gets stonewalled. 0.99

00:10:12.000 Everything gets blocked.

00:10:13.000 Congress can't get anything passed.

00:10:15.000 And people are growing increasingly more kind of just frustrated with the way things are going.

00:10:20.000 Obviously, the left is frustrated because they don't like anything that's going on right now because it's their job to push back.

00:10:25.000 And the right is angry on different levels because people that consider themselves America first are fighting with people who are establishment Republicans because nobody can seem to get anything through.

00:10:34.000 Can't get the Save Act passed, right?

00:10:36.000 That's still out.

00:10:38.000 It's anarcho-tyranny at every level.

00:10:40.000 It is.

00:10:40.000 On the ground, the left release criminals.

00:10:44.000 People are being brutalized.

00:10:46.000 And then they pass laws saying you can't own guns, you can't do anything.

00:10:48.000 And then at the administrative level, when you go hyper into politics, you've got the Democrats obstructing everything and Trump admin doing relatively little.

00:10:56.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:10:58.000 Nuking USAID was a massive move.

00:11:00.000 And so I give Trump credit for that.

00:11:02.000 But like, Christy Noam is being criticized for, like, we're not getting the deportations people thought we were going to be getting.

00:11:08.000 The DOJ is getting criticized because you're not getting the prosecutions you thought you were going to be getting.

00:11:12.000 It's the same thing.

00:11:14.000 The people in power are not doing anything about the criminals.

00:11:18.000 So politically, we've got an archo-tyranny.

00:11:19.000 On the ground, we've got anarcho-tyranny.

00:11:21.000 And, you know, what's really frustrating for me is that every day you get inaction and failure.

00:11:27.000 People become more and more disinterested in this.

00:11:30.000 And then how are you supposed to actually rally people together to solve for these political problems when people are basically giving up because they vote for someone like Trump?

00:11:39.000 We're a year in, and they're like, this is it.

00:11:42.000 A year later, we lost Dan Bongino.

00:11:44.000 He didn't get the job done.

00:11:45.000 Christine Om wasn't getting the job done. 1.00

00:11:47.000 She's gone now.

00:11:48.000 People are calling for Pam Bondi to be fired.

00:11:49.000 The Epstein files thing is flubbed.

00:11:51.000 And I'm not saying those are the most important things imaginable, but they matter to a lot of people.

00:11:55.000 And the one thing you could always count on, you know, Benjamin Franklin was wrong.

00:11:59.000 He said the two things you can always count on, death and taxes, but there's a third.

00:12:02.000 It's war in the Middle East. 0.78

00:12:04.000 Yeah, so the thing that I was thinking about, well, you used to characterize, or at least you would tell us how other people would characterize that Trump is the bull in a china shop, right?

00:12:12.000 Well, if that's the point here, and we have now entered a level of discourse where everything is discombobulated, nobody has any sense of decorum, we were fine with that because we were assuming that that was going to lead to some type of political change.

00:12:24.000 But if what we're getting right now is a bull in a china shop that leads to war in Iran, it's like it's the same thing we were having before, just with mean words on the internet, which are funny, but it doesn't mean that anything's going to be different this time around.

00:12:35.000 Everything feels the same.

00:12:37.000 Yeah, I mean, I would like to see, obviously, I would like to see more deportations.

00:12:40.000 I've outlined my opinion about the immigration situation more times than I can count.

00:12:45.000 It does feel like Trump is actually paying more attention to international affairs than he is paying attention to the stuff at home.

00:12:50.000 And the American First People, they're not particularly interested in what's going on internationally.

00:12:54.000 They don't want the war in Iran, even though most of MAGA, if you go by the polls, most of MAGA says, look, if this goes well, we're cool with it.

00:13:04.000 You know, there's something like 75% say if it's only a month, they'll be okay with it.

00:13:08.000 So generally, the MAGA Republicans are like, okay, this is all right, but don't lose focus on the homeland.

00:13:15.000 Like paying attention to immigration is the biggest thing.

00:13:18.000 And then the stuff in the fall, when it comes to the elections, like that's going to be whether or not people feel like their dollar goes as far as they arbitrarily think it should, right?

00:13:27.000 Like they want to be able to go to the grocery store, pay their bills, and have some left over.

00:13:33.000 And they want to feel like there has been movement on that.

00:13:36.000 If they don't, Republicans cannot win.

00:13:38.000 I've said this a million times.

00:13:40.000 If they do, Republicans can win.

00:13:41.000 That's not a guarantee that all Republicans are going to win, but they're definitely not going to win if people feel like their dollar is stretched in.

00:13:48.000 Well, gas went up 60 cents after Iran. 0.64

00:13:52.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah, but that is true.

00:13:54.000 But that's something that, again, if he can keep this to a short-term issue, like a month, gas prices will go down by the time the elections or the campaigns get into full swing.

00:14:05.000 And the American people have a fairly short memory when it comes to this kind of stuff.

00:14:08.000 When it comes to, you know, things that happened six months ago or a year ago, it might as well have been five years ago.

00:14:13.000 They care about what's right in front of them right now.

00:14:16.000 And if their wallets feel strained, they will not vote for Republicans.

00:14:21.000 And again, I've said it a million times.

00:14:23.000 This is not a guarantee that Republicans will win.

00:14:25.000 It's just the conditions that are necessary for Republicans to be able to win.

00:14:30.000 If things are going poorly in the economy, if people feel like they can't pay their bills, they always vote against the party in power.

00:14:38.000 The history says that generally the party in power loses in the midterms.

00:14:44.000 It's just going to be a bloodbath if they don't, if they have to.

00:14:46.000 Do you think this could be part of a larger strategy, moving Christian Ohm out at this time?

00:14:51.000 So, for example, Trump in his first term was pretty famous for moving somebody out, moving an interim person in.

00:14:57.000 So, we saw Jeff Sessions go to then have Matthew Whitaker as an acting attorney general.

00:15:03.000 I'm wondering, could this move with Christian Ohm be a strategic shift while all the eyes are on what's going on in Iran so that when we come back from that and move on to the next phase of his administration, then they bring somebody in who maybe can go even more aggressively after immigration.

00:15:19.000 They're already bringing in Mark Wynn Mullen.

00:15:21.000 Right.

00:15:21.000 Are they going to boot him out?

00:15:23.000 Yeah, I'm curious because what's the timeline for which you have to leave the Senate to start to be the acting Secretary of DHS to get confirmed?

00:15:23.000 Well, I don't know.

00:15:34.000 And then if they don't confirm him, he loses everything.

00:15:37.000 So maybe he doesn't resign the Senate.

00:15:39.000 I don't think he can take both positions.

00:15:41.000 Yeah, I think they're going to have to cut a deal, or maybe they already cut a deal.

00:15:46.000 Yeah.

00:15:46.000 He's got to get there.

00:15:47.000 They probably are already going to go with support him because they all know him in the Senate.

00:15:51.000 I had a question for you.

00:15:52.000 He's getting backed by the Teamsters had O'Brien.

00:15:55.000 What's his face?

00:15:56.000 Do you guys remember that?

00:15:57.000 We got to play this video.

00:15:58.000 Come on, you guys.

00:15:59.000 Ian, to your point, there's a lot of people in the Senate.

00:16:02.000 The Senate usually does have fairly closed ranks, and senators will support other senators for positions and stuff like that.

00:16:08.000 There's a lot of people in the Senate that are very unhappy voting for Rubio, right?

00:16:12.000 When Rubio got the position of Secretary of State, they all voted for him.

00:16:18.000 I think it was 99% or something like that.

00:16:20.000 Go ahead.

00:16:20.000 Let's play this video from here's the guy who's taken over as head of the DHS, Senator Mark Wynn Mullen.

00:16:26.000 Here we go.

00:16:28.000 Mr. O'Brien himself, his behavior.

00:16:29.000 As everybody knows, and it's here in the last time, him and I kind of had a back and forth.

00:16:33.000 I appreciate your demeanor today.

00:16:35.000 It's quite different.

00:16:36.000 But after you left here, you got pretty excited about the keyboard.

00:16:39.000 In fact, you tweeted at me one, two, three, four, five times.

00:16:48.000 And let me read what the last one said.

00:16:50.000 It said, greedy CEO who pretends like he's self-made.

00:16:56.000 Sir, I wish he was in the truck with me when I was building my plumbing company myself and my wife was running the office because I sure remember working pretty hard in long hours.

00:17:06.000 Pretends like he's self-made. 0.98

00:17:08.000 What a clown. 1.00

00:17:10.000 Fraud. 1.00

00:17:11.000 Always has been, always will be.

00:17:14.000 Quit the tough guy act and these Senate hearings.

00:17:18.000 You know where to find me any place, anytime.

00:17:21.000 Cowboy.

00:17:23.000 How can you take it?

00:17:24.000 So this is a time.

00:17:24.000 This is a place.

00:17:26.000 If you want to run your mouth, we can be two consenting adults.

00:17:28.000 We can finish it here.

00:17:30.000 Okay, that's fine.

00:17:30.000 Perfect.

00:17:31.000 You want to do it now?

00:17:32.000 I'd love to do it right now. 0.98

00:17:33.000 Well, stand your butt up then. 0.99

00:17:34.000 You stand your butt up. 0.98

00:17:37.000 Now you're solution of your poem. 0.93

00:17:38.000 Look at those things right now.

00:17:40.000 Y'all know you're a United States Senator.

00:17:40.000 Okay.

00:17:43.000 Okay, no, no, no.

00:17:45.000 Bernie, Bernie should be thrown out.

00:17:47.000 O'Brien and Mark Wayne were being decisive and gentlemanly in their request to bout.

00:17:54.000 And I got to give respect to O'Brien as well, who was like, okay, like, let's go.

00:17:59.000 And then Mark Wayne goes to pull his ring on.

00:18:00.000 Like, he's ready to go. 1.00

00:18:02.000 Everyone knows Bernie's a coward. 0.98

00:18:03.000 He was standing on that stage, and those two women came up and they kicked him right off of his own stage. 0.99

00:18:08.000 So Bernie Sanders is a.

00:18:10.000 So I've seen a lot of people criticize Mark Wayne Mullen as first policy or whatever.

00:18:14.000 But let's just get some masculinity back in the room. 1.00

00:18:17.000 Can we do that? 0.99

00:18:19.000 We were talking about this last night, how modern culture has become just feminized trash. 1.00

00:18:23.000 And then Phil sent me this clip from Asmund Gold reacting to the new world of Warcraft. 0.95

00:18:28.000 We'll talk about it later.

00:18:28.000 And we have this.

00:18:29.000 But yeah, you know, what's her name?

00:18:31.000 Helen Andrews.

00:18:32.000 Is that the woman? 0.86

00:18:34.000 The one talking about how, as institutions become feminine, you start getting all this woke stuff.

00:18:39.000 And like instead of dealing with issues, everyone just hugs and then the murderers go free.

00:18:45.000 I'm just, you know, maybe our government needs some guys who are going to be like, stand up, let's go.

00:18:52.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:53.000 Yeah, otherwise start throwing fists.

00:18:55.000 We're in this, what is it called, the rat utopia?

00:18:56.000 Like the United States, since the fall of the Soviet Union has kind of been a rat utopia where everyone's just living off, you know, the massive tit and getting fat and has all the entertainment and food and cheap gas.

00:19:07.000 And now, so people are going like dystopia. 0.87

00:19:10.000 There's you see this feminist creep. 1.00

00:19:11.000 It's not women. 1.00

00:19:12.000 It's just this feminist creep that's a result probably of the largely women. 1.00

00:19:16.000 You know, feminism, I think feminine energy usually comes out of women more than it comes out of men generally. 1.00

00:19:21.000 Sometimes you look at that clip that we just saw and it does seem to suggest that this is probably what Trump's going for.

00:19:27.000 He's going for somebody to get in there who is going to be tough and is willing to not shrink away from controversy, clearly, in order to be aggressive about what he wants to get done.

00:19:35.000 Pete Hegseth is such a badass.

00:19:38.000 I cannot, like, this guy is a maniac for his job.

00:19:40.000 He loves, and that's like obsessive mania for his job. 0.99

00:19:42.000 Obviously, he loves to kill. 0.91

00:19:44.000 Is that the right way to phrase it? 0.99

00:19:45.000 He loves to destroy the enemy.

00:19:47.000 Like, this guy is a fireball, and I'm glad he's on our team.

00:19:50.000 I fully support Hegseth.

00:19:51.000 It's terrifying, kind of, in a way, but like, this is what a war commander does.

00:19:54.000 We've needed men in the room for some time.

00:19:57.000 I do love, however, that it started over a Twitter beef, though.

00:20:00.000 Yeah.

00:20:00.000 You tweeted at me.

00:20:02.000 Like, it wasn't like, hey, you bumped into me in the parking lot and you didn't apologize.

00:20:06.000 It was like, you said something mean to me on the internet, which, of course, has been a hallmark of the internet for as long as it's been around.

00:20:11.000 It's people being like, oh, don't let me catch you outside.

00:20:14.000 He's like, he's at any time, any place.

00:20:14.000 But it was perfect.

00:20:16.000 And he goes, now's the time.

00:20:18.000 This is the place. 0.99

00:20:19.000 And he's like, why don't you stand your butt? 0.99

00:20:21.000 He's like, you stand your butt up. 0.99

00:20:22.000 He's like, okay. 0.91

00:20:24.000 All right.

00:20:25.000 You think they would have gone?

00:20:26.000 I don't think they would have gone.

00:20:27.000 I think the dude sitting down would have been like, no, no, okay, that's enough.

00:20:29.000 Hold me back.

00:20:30.000 Hold me back.

00:20:31.000 I don't know or care, but Bernie Sanders, this pencil-necked, button-up shirt guy who's never had a real job in his life.

00:20:36.000 You're a United States Senator.

00:20:38.000 Oh, sit down.

00:20:40.000 Dude, he said we can be two consenting adults and put an end of this.

00:20:43.000 I don't know if DC has mutual combat rules or laws or whatever, but some states do.

00:20:47.000 See this thing?

00:20:47.000 I think Fetterman would let him do it.

00:20:49.000 I think Fetterman would have a weapon.

00:20:51.000 That's why I'm voting Fetterman in 2018.

00:20:53.000 Fetterman would start stuttering, and you wouldn't know exactly what he was going to say.

00:20:57.000 He'd be like, Senator Mullen, I think you should do it.

00:21:02.000 And you'd be like, okay, we're just waiting a second to see where you're going with this.

00:21:04.000 What's role?

00:21:05.000 That's why it's going to be a great president.

00:21:06.000 Well, Fetterman tweeted out that he supported a confirmation of Mark Wayne Mullen.

00:21:11.000 You could have those two guys at the UFC fight at the White House in the summer, right?

00:21:16.000 I got to be honest.

00:21:18.000 Mark Wayne Mullen is a retired MMA fighter.

00:21:20.000 He's 3-0.

00:21:21.000 Yeah, he's 3-0.

00:21:22.000 And I want to stress this.

00:21:25.000 Even as an older guy, right?

00:21:26.000 It was 20 years ago when he was fighting.

00:21:28.000 He clearly looks like he at least stays in shape to a certain degree.

00:21:31.000 Because it's a lifestyle where you're eating right, you're exercising.

00:21:33.000 I doubt he just stopped doing it.

00:21:35.000 He would flatten O'Brien.

00:21:36.000 He looks like an anaconda. 0.76

00:21:37.000 He would squeeze that dude. 0.95

00:21:37.000 He would flatten it. 0.95

00:21:40.000 Pardon me, Arank. 0.99

00:21:42.000 Dude, he would.

00:21:43.000 If we've got YouTubers boxing, we need to start letting old politicians box as well.

00:21:48.000 Bernie versus Elizabeth Warren.

00:21:50.000 Yes.

00:21:51.000 Terrified.

00:21:52.000 And then, well, they just got rid of Crenshaw so they could have had Crenshaw fight.

00:21:55.000 They would have to choose a champion.

00:21:56.000 Yeah.

00:21:57.000 They would have to choose champions because they're too old.

00:21:58.000 Liz or Bernie.

00:22:00.000 Let's jump to this next story from the Washington Examiner.

00:22:03.000 Head of Miami GOP calls for party official to resign over leaked racist and anti-Semitic chat.

00:22:11.000 Oh, boy.

00:22:11.000 Did you guys hear about this one?

00:22:12.000 I did.

00:22:14.000 The leaked group chat or whatever.

00:22:15.000 It's funny because we were just playing this joke from Danny Polishchuck the other day about the leaked group chats.

00:22:21.000 And now we have, of course, a legitimate GOP leaked group chat where I read some of the messages and, oh boy, they like saying the N-word.

00:22:29.000 There was like one last year, too, right?

00:22:31.000 There was another one that DC staffers.

00:22:33.000 I mean, they don't.

00:22:34.000 Let's read this from the Washington Examiner.

00:22:35.000 They say, Miami-Dade County Republican Chairman Kevin Cooper said anyone associated with this chat should resign immediately.

00:22:42.000 Republican state rep Juan Porris on Wednesday called on Carvajal directly to step down, describing the message as deeply disturbing.

00:22:48.000 In messages, Gonzalez said, you can F all the K's you want, just don't marry them and procreate. 1.00

00:22:55.000 Warning about the risk of having, quote, a little K running around. 0.99

00:22:59.000 He responded, I would death not marry a Jew.

00:23:02.000 In another anti-Semitic exchange, Valdez changed the group chat name to Gooning and Agartha, referencing slang for a male, if you know what I mean, and the mythical civilization promoted by Adolf Hitler's top henchman, Heinrich Himmler.

00:23:14.000 Valdez described Agartha as esoteric Nazism, essentially, while Gonzalez said it was Nazi heaven, sort of.

00:23:21.000 To be fair, if you're not giving us the context of what they were saying, just putting in quotes a small, like him saying esoteric Nazism essentially, they could be criticizing it for all I know.

00:23:31.000 Not that I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, to be honest.

00:23:33.000 Another exchange, Valdez said, we need to have a moratorium on immigration temporarily, unless it's someone from a first world country.

00:23:40.000 Yeah, I obviously mean whites. 0.81

00:23:42.000 Some chat users also use derogatory language about women, while others frequently used the word N and additional disparaging and violent comments against black people. 0.88

00:23:51.000 Ew, you had colored professors, Gonzalez wrote. 0.95

00:23:54.000 I reguse, he meant refuse, to be indoctrinated by the coloreds. 0.99

00:23:59.000 He later said, avoid the coloreds like the plague. 1.00

00:24:02.000 Wow. 0.94

00:24:03.000 This is Florida.

00:24:05.000 In another exchange, a user sent a series of violent messages about wanting to exterminate N-word.

00:24:12.000 Geez.

00:24:13.000 This is wild stuff.

00:24:15.000 You shouldn't put that stuff.

00:24:17.000 Well, you shouldn't say that stuff, but you shouldn't put it in group chats.

00:24:19.000 I know people think, oh, you know, it's the group chat.

00:24:22.000 It's safe.

00:24:22.000 Look, these things.

00:24:23.000 No, no, no, it's not.

00:24:25.000 There should be special punishments for whoever leaks the group chat, though.

00:24:25.000 It's not at all.

00:24:29.000 That is 110%.

00:24:30.000 Yeah, I mean, believe it.

00:24:31.000 It's violating a level of trust.

00:24:33.000 It is.

00:24:33.000 But still, like, in modern society, like group chats are just as vulnerable as anything else.

00:24:41.000 I leave them.

00:24:42.000 Most of the time, I don't even say because it's like you're going to end up being guilty by association for something if somebody says something that you had nothing to do with.

00:24:49.000 Now, that being said, the Republicans should ignore all the calls for resigning and stuff because the Democrats will just use that as confirmation that the people actually meant it and that they were actually racist and stuff.

00:25:02.000 They might be able to get away with saying, oh, this is just, you know, we were just being, you know, locker room talker, whatever, however you want to call it.

00:25:09.000 They're not going to approve these people if they say they're sorry.

00:25:12.000 So they should ignore all the calls for people to resign.

00:25:15.000 Kind of makes me think of that dude who was saying in a group chat that he wanted to kill somebody's mom.

00:25:20.000 I don't remember.

00:25:20.000 It was a month and a half.

00:25:21.000 Yeah, there was just the current AG of Virginia. 0.99

00:25:26.000 He wanted to kill children. 0.98

00:25:27.000 Yes. 0.99

00:25:27.000 And he didn't resign. 0.99

00:25:28.000 No.

00:25:28.000 Nothing.

00:25:29.000 And he won.

00:25:30.000 This is exactly what I'm talking about.

00:25:31.000 Exactly what I'm talking about.

00:25:32.000 Democrats will say the most absolutely abhorrent stuff and nothing happens.

00:25:40.000 So the Republicans should ignore this because no one actually cares.

00:25:46.000 They're only going to use it to get scalps. 1.00

00:25:49.000 The Republicans should ignore this.

00:25:50.000 Yeah, really.

00:25:51.000 As long as there's a two-tiered standard of justice, then there's no real point in playing that game.

00:25:51.000 Right.

00:25:56.000 That's right.

00:25:57.000 What it does suggest to me, though, is that, I mean, come on, let's have smarter people in these group chats, right?

00:26:00.000 Like, really, if you want to take a risk like that with your career, it doesn't seem wise. 1.00

00:26:04.000 It's young guys that do stupid things. 1.00

00:26:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:26:06.000 You know, and genuinely young guys do do stupid things. 0.99

00:26:09.000 That's part of it. 0.97

00:26:10.000 No, I think this has everything to do with what we were talking about yesterday with World of Warcraft.

00:26:15.000 I'm not even joking or exaggerating.

00:26:17.000 When there's this clip that Asmund Gold has on his ex account where he watches a clip from World of War, like from Warcraft, not World of Warcraft, but the original IP from 1994.

00:26:27.000 And the point is this.

00:26:29.000 When we were all kids, the content we got was like dudes in armor running through a battlefield screaming.

00:26:36.000 And, you know, you've got like Braveheart and things like that.

00:26:38.000 Robocop had toys for kids.

00:26:41.000 Yeah, now you have, and then it's like 2026, World of Warcraft is Shrek.

00:26:45.000 Like it's, it's, it's, the orcs, which are supposed to be gigantic, brutish monsters, are bumbling around like, whoa, whoa, don't mind me.

00:26:52.000 And then the main, the character is going, woohoo, I'm dancing.

00:26:55.000 And so what happens is the outlet for young men and their aggression is gone.

00:27:01.000 There were games to play, and it would direct them in a messaging or in a narrative.

00:27:06.000 Now they don't have that.

00:27:07.000 And so their outlet for aggression is these dark corners of the internet.

00:27:13.000 So they're going to grow up.

00:27:14.000 And instead of being aggressive as it pertains to competitive sports or something like this, they're going into politics.

00:27:22.000 And in politics, the most aggressive stuff they're being fed is going to be this kind of stuff.

00:27:28.000 And that's what you're going to get.

00:27:30.000 There's this character.

00:27:31.000 I'm trying to find a, it's in Warcraft.

00:27:34.000 The chick is like a, it's a black girl, but she's an orc, but it's obviously like a black woman is what they're trying to do. 0.98

00:27:39.000 And she's got like a buzz cut and she's like the badass hero, but it's like when?

00:27:44.000 A black, it's like this new one of the new orc protagonists. 0.99

00:27:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:49.000 They've just created some new character and it's a black.

00:27:52.000 Basically, they're like, here's your new hero is a black woman. 0.58

00:27:54.000 And like, I have no problem with black women. 1.00

00:27:56.000 I find them extremely erotic and exotic and all these things.

00:28:00.000 Lots of stuff. 0.95

00:28:01.000 But to make them the main protagonist of an action game for kids is like makes them kind of maybe resent that they're being force-fed shit that's like weird. 0.99

00:28:09.000 You know, like you don't go on a battlefield and expect to see a large black woman next to you in combat. 1.00

00:28:15.000 You're half there. 0.63

00:28:16.000 Let me let me translate these eonisms.

00:28:18.000 I don't care what skin color you have. 0.99

00:28:19.000 Let me translate the eonisms because I actually talked about this earlier today as I did a breakdown of like all like basically just elaborating everything we're talking about.

00:28:27.000 Concord, for those that aren't familiar, was a $400 million project by Sony that launched to tens of players.

00:28:36.000 Like ultimately they sold 25,000 copies of the game, but nobody was playing it.

00:28:40.000 And within 11 days, they shut it down and refunded all their money.

00:28:43.000 It is considered to be the biggest flop in the history of all media from $400 million to zero.

00:28:52.000 Even bad movies that flop, it'll be like it was a $100 million budget.

00:28:56.000 It did $60 million.

00:28:57.000 It's a flop.

00:28:57.000 Oh, there's some movies that lose that much, but the point is, I went through and looked at the characters in this game, Concorde, and it's a bunch of like Tumblr-esque, woke, weird, they-thems and she-thems.

00:29:14.000 There's like a fat Pakistani guy, and it's like, first and foremost, we go to fantasy games and realms to play as the like the extreme superhero. 1.00

00:29:26.000 You want a guy who's jacked up and you want a woman who's super hot. 1.00

00:29:29.000 Like, you don't want to be yourself.

00:29:31.000 You want to be in a fantasy of the best.

00:29:33.000 But more importantly, for these games, people need to see something recognizable. 0.96

00:29:40.000 And so, to Ian's point about an orc black woman, Lesbian. 1.00

00:29:43.000 Corona is her name by the- Corona. 0.72

00:29:44.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:29:45.000 The question is: will any young person see that character and recognize that trope in some kind of way?

00:29:55.000 No, it doesn't exist.

00:29:56.000 And so, what ends up happening is they keep trying to make these like the example that I give in the Overwatch video game, which came out 10 years ago, and we played these videos yesterday as well.

00:30:06.000 The characters are 100% stereotypes.

00:30:10.000 Hilarious.

00:30:12.000 But you know what the thing is?

00:30:13.000 Stereotypes are recognizable.

00:30:16.000 So, when someone sees an Egyptian character, and it's not demeaning, and she's got like a hieroglyph over her eye, they're like, oh, she's Egyptian.

00:30:22.000 Like, I understand references to that culture.

00:30:25.000 It's a visual shortcut.

00:30:26.000 Indeed. 0.95

00:30:27.000 Then, when you decide you're going to make a, you know, a black woman who does not in any way behave or represent anything related to black females and their culture or black culture, no one likes it. 1.00

00:30:40.000 So, no one will touch it. 0.55

00:30:42.000 And anyway, not to get into all that right now.

00:30:44.000 We'll talk about that later.

00:30:44.000 This goes back to the point about these group chats.

00:30:46.000 I'm going to loop it back in.

00:30:47.000 Young guys go online.

00:30:49.000 They do not have an opportunity to see war, conquest.

00:30:53.000 And I'm not saying that you should always just be into that stuff, but they're not seeing stories of heroism and they're not being given challenges.

00:30:59.000 They're not being told, here's how you succeed.

00:31:01.000 Here's how you be strong.

00:31:02.000 Here's how you be better.

00:31:04.000 Instead, they're being told to hold hands and kiss puppies.

00:31:08.000 And it's like, yo, there's a time and a place for hugging your puppy, but guys want to jump off buildings and punch each other in the nuts.

00:31:14.000 And for that matter, we can also get into, we'll save this for the end of the show.

00:31:18.000 The new game, EA Skate, one of the most anticipated games of all time, no joke, has 1,900 players on average right now.

00:31:28.000 Again, one of the most apocalyptic failures of a media.

00:31:32.000 Within six months, the player base dropped.

00:31:35.000 They lost 70% of their players after launch because it's not a game where, as a man, you are being told, here's how you conquer the world. 0.89

00:31:42.000 It's a game where you play as a morbidly obese guy with tits and you're being told by some young girl to go and have fun and play and dance. 0.99

00:31:49.000 Oh, cheese. 0.99

00:31:50.000 And I'm not even, this is why I'm pissed.

00:31:52.000 And this is why I'm going to shout out Mark Wayne Mullen again for standing up and calling O'Brien and the Teamsters to fight.

00:31:57.000 And I'm going to give a shout out to O'Brien as well for saying, let's go because they're being men.

00:32:01.000 Not that I think it's appropriate for two guys just throw down in the Senate chamber, but at least they're being men.

00:32:06.000 Another, an RFK, another man, like a legit, like testosterone-laden human man.

00:32:11.000 That guy, and he's doing the man thing of like, let's get healthy.

00:32:14.000 Testosterone-laden.

00:32:15.000 He doesn't want to break it with his elbows.

00:32:17.000 He's delivering it to someone else.

00:32:18.000 Yes, he wants to feed you his testosterone-laced health advice.

00:32:22.000 Well, at least maybe Olivia Nuzzy. 0.98

00:32:25.000 I don't know if you're not.

00:32:26.000 He's fighting back.

00:32:26.000 Is that too esoteric a joke?

00:32:28.000 He's fighting back currently against all of the Burger King and McDonald's CEOs who are trying to sell you their burgers by trying to get you healthy.

00:32:35.000 So basically, protecting the food supply is another, it's a masculine trait.

00:32:38.000 You know, protecting in general is a masculine trait.

00:32:41.000 So you don't have to break people's faces to be masculine.

00:32:43.000 You can also protect the environment.

00:32:45.000 Well, a lot of times protecting does require breaking someone's face, just not the person you're protecting.

00:32:50.000 Or like wild animals.

00:32:51.000 All right, let's, because we're already talking about it, let's jump to this.

00:32:55.000 And I want to show you this clip.

00:32:57.000 And we have this from World of Warcraft.

00:32:59.000 They have a new game coming out.

00:33:00.000 And I want to just start by saying to everybody who doesn't care about these video games or anything like that, the purpose of this segment is to discuss the destruction of masculinity, the removal of what it means to be a man, the challenge to our young people, and how it's, I believe, brewing extremism and politics in a way that we're not going to be happy with.

00:33:19.000 So we just talked about this group chat leak where you've got these guys, they're saying a bunch of racist things.

00:33:24.000 And I got to be honest, I don't think for the most part these people actually are deeply racist.

00:33:29.000 I think they're trying to be shocking and edgy.

00:33:31.000 They are trying to be aggressive because this is what young men do.

00:33:36.000 And I want to show you just the beginning, a little bit of this video from World of Warcraft to give you an example of what is being done to our young people.

00:33:45.000 And if men cannot find an outlet for their drive and aggression, they will find it somewhere else. 0.64

00:33:52.000 And it used to be in our media and our video games where kids would play cops and robbers and chase each other around and the little boys would play fight.

00:33:59.000 And now they're being told to stop doing it.

00:34:01.000 It's a problem that people have addressed over the past 20 years, but has never stopped.

00:34:05.000 The problem of you got a little boy and a little girl in grade school, and the little boy wants to jump up and down and he wants to punch the ball and he wants to play and he's told to sit down and shut up and be like a girl. 0.93

00:34:14.000 They give him a bunch of Adderall.

00:34:16.000 Or they give him drugs.

00:34:17.000 Let me play a little bit of this and you're going to see exactly what I'm talking about.

00:34:19.000 This is the new trailer for the expansion for World of Warcraft.

00:34:22.000 And I also want to stress: look what they have taken from us.

00:34:27.000 So it starts off with a woman. 0.90

00:34:31.000 Oh, I'm sure we're going to get it.

00:34:33.000 Wow, wait, wait, wait.

00:34:34.000 Let's pause real quick.

00:34:35.000 Wow.

00:34:35.000 Look at that.

00:34:36.000 Look at that.

00:34:37.000 Slicing straight through.

00:34:39.000 Okay.

00:34:40.000 We're getting somewhere right hey so far so good All right.

00:34:53.000 Whoa.

00:34:55.000 All right, I'm into this.

00:34:56.000 What happens next?

00:34:58.000 Some awesome stuff.

00:35:00.000 Or I could be wrong.

00:35:02.000 Yes!

00:35:03.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:35:06.000 What?

00:35:08.000 And then they had to drag Ozzie into this. 0.95

00:35:13.000 Look at this.

00:35:19.000 We're all friends, Bill.

00:35:20.000 Yep.

00:35:21.000 This is Burger Bar.

00:35:22.000 Oh, look, look.

00:35:23.000 Is it?

00:35:27.000 Oh, it's Shrek.

00:35:29.000 Yeah, somebody.

00:35:31.000 They've got a whole little Shrek anime.

00:35:36.000 No.

00:35:40.000 No, no. 1.00

00:35:41.000 Don't you besmirch Ozzy with this stupid garbage of the giggling lady being like, so here's the issue. 1.00

00:35:48.000 where she trivializes the loot that she got. 1.00

00:35:52.000 What, you mean like where she just, like...

00:35:54.000 Found this master magic crown.

00:35:55.000 She got the crown, and it's like, it's frozen.

00:35:58.000 Like, I did this big.

00:35:59.000 He doesn't want you to watch anymore.

00:36:00.000 No.

00:36:00.000 X is like just – Here we go.

00:36:05.000 It's gray loot, bro. 1.00

00:36:05.000 She just fucked up. 1.00

00:36:07.000 She's putting on a shelf. 1.00

00:36:08.000 It's gray loot. 1.00

00:36:09.000 Either she's an idiot or she is disrespectful of the loot. 1.00

00:36:12.000 It was literally just a tea kettle holding... 1.00

00:36:16.000 It's literally the most millennial woman thing ever. 0.96

00:36:20.000 First, coffee.

00:36:21.000 They're trying to sell.

00:36:22.000 She found the perfect item for her house decorations because that's what the game's about is decorating your house a lot of the game now.

00:36:27.000 Bro, this is the point.

00:36:29.000 You'd think it's like a crown or it's like an item you're going to wear and it's going to grant you like a force field.

00:36:34.000 No, it's to hold her tea kettle so she can sit there and sip her tea and as Ian points out to decorate her house.

00:36:39.000 This is the point, man.

00:36:42.000 So we have the original.

00:36:43.000 I just want to show you this one part of the intro to Burning Crusade, which is back in the day when we were all playing it.

00:36:50.000 And let's just jump ahead.

00:36:52.000 You got the introduction of the Dronor.

00:36:54.000 And then here's this.

00:36:55.000 Here's the introduction of the Blood Elf back in the day compared to what you just saw. 0.99

00:37:00.000 Watch this version.

00:37:04.000 20 years ago. Brutal.

00:37:14.000 Her face becomes twisted and she strips the life out of the monoworm to absorb its energy. 0.99

00:37:19.000 Much, much more brutal.

00:37:21.000 And it literally ends with the blood elf female. 0.87

00:37:24.000 And this is funny because it's so feminist. 1.00

00:37:26.000 watch this, slamming her staff into the ground, creating a big burst of energy, which is kind of dumb because what she was doing was actually a healing spell. 1.00

00:37:40.000 I guess, to be fair, it hurts your enemies and heals your allies or whatever.

00:37:43.000 The point is, is they got it right 20 years ago before HR departments came in to tell them they were doing it wrong.

00:37:48.000 And they got it right 20 years ago, and it became the hottest IP ever.

00:37:51.000 Even Dave Chappelle was talking about how he played World of Warcraft.

00:37:54.000 Tons of celebrities are like, this game is amazing.

00:37:56.000 And now it's about decorating your house.

00:37:59.000 So ultimately, here's my point.

00:38:00.000 We talked about it last night.

00:38:01.000 We'll talk about it now.

00:38:02.000 Young men need an outlet for adventure, for growth, to conquer.

00:38:09.000 And it's not about just being a merciless dictator and beating people and enslaving people.

00:38:14.000 It's about being the best version of yourself and the male power fantasy.

00:38:18.000 That is saving the woman and being the hero.

00:38:21.000 And now, all the IP, it's like Fortnite.

00:38:24.000 It's like cartoon, silly, collectibles, and that is 100% female. 1.00

00:38:30.000 Now, this is the funny thing.

00:38:32.000 This is why, like, it all comes together with like what they're doing with non-binary stuff, which, of course, we can get into the James Tallerico thing where he says God is non-binary.

00:38:39.000 But they're basically like, how do we make the game for boys and girls?

00:38:42.000 I know you beat the crap out of each other in order to decorate your house instead of just one or the other.

00:38:48.000 I know.

00:38:48.000 How about you make a game where you can decorate your house for the people who want to play that game?

00:38:51.000 Or if women want to play Candy Crush, they can. 1.00

00:38:53.000 And for the guys, you play the game where you slay the dragon and then use its entrails to decorate your house.

00:38:58.000 Or destroy your friend's house.

00:39:01.000 It'll still be fine for them.

00:39:03.000 This is a mixture of both the corporate structure of these companies now, which are so large that they get focus groups and they try to find ways to advertise.

00:39:12.000 In Hollywood, for movies, it's called four-quadrant movie making, where you try to make movies for men, women, young, and old.

00:39:17.000 And usually, when me and Phil were talking about this earlier, when you try to make something for everybody, you end up making something for nobody at all.

00:39:23.000 There is an ancient Japanese proverb.

00:39:26.000 It says, he who attempts to catch two rabbits will catch neither.

00:39:30.000 Did you talk about the Karen video game?

00:39:32.000 Yeah, we did.

00:39:33.000 There you go.

00:39:34.000 I mean, I'm excited for it.

00:39:35.000 I don't know if you want to see it.

00:39:36.000 To be honest, it's very masculine.

00:39:38.000 She's going in and she's just smashing everything. 0.96

00:39:41.000 You can become a guy in that.

00:39:43.000 You'll be good.

00:39:44.000 Somebody edited it and they used AI to make her black.

00:39:50.000 And I know that, like, I already made a video where I said I would do that, but they were like day one mod, and they made the Karen a black woman.

00:39:56.000 And I'm like, no, that's correct.

00:39:58.000 It'll be modded like crazy.

00:40:00.000 If they should make it so she gets bigger the more she eats, like Katamari Damazi, ever play that where you roll that ball around and sticky things to the ball and the ball gets bigger and bigger. 0.96

00:40:07.000 And then you're like rolling it through cities and like picking up buildings and stuff.

00:40:10.000 Yeah.

00:40:10.000 That'd be kind of cool.

00:40:12.000 You know what?

00:40:12.000 There's something important that needs to be said.

00:40:15.000 If World of Warcraft and these companies really do want to just make money, okay, well, OnlyFans make substantially more money than anything they're doing.

00:40:24.000 So why don't they just make World of OnlyFans and you'll make money? 1.00

00:40:27.000 My point is, if the goal is to make money and you don't care that you're destroying your intellectual property, then just go full boar, baby.

00:40:35.000 Why even bothering with this stuff?

00:40:36.000 Just make it World of OnlyFans. 0.96

00:40:38.000 Make every character a big tittied lady. 1.00

00:40:40.000 And then you got to pay premium so they're naked. 0.97

00:40:43.000 You'll make way more money.

00:40:44.000 That's probably true.

00:40:45.000 Yeah, it is.

00:40:46.000 And you know what?

00:40:47.000 Then you can leave the more serious gameplay and adventure seeking to the people who like it.

00:40:52.000 I want to stress, because people have responded to this commentary saying, you're just an old man, Tim.

00:40:57.000 You understand these games are for kids, not for you.

00:40:57.000 You're turning 40.

00:41:00.000 Shut up. 0.99

00:41:01.000 I was like, what was I eight years old when I played Warcraft 1? 1.00

00:41:06.000 And I'm going just bashing the crap out of orcs and leaving bloody corpses on the ground. 0.59

00:41:10.000 I was eight, okay? 0.99

00:41:11.000 And that was great.

00:41:12.000 And then Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3 and then World of Warcraft.

00:41:16.000 Kids don't need to watch brutal gore films or anything like that.

00:41:21.000 But the idea that, well, kids these days will play this game. 0.99

00:41:25.000 No, I'm tired of this infantilizing garbage, okay? 0.95

00:41:28.000 Kids can have like violent video games to a certain degree. 0.97

00:41:32.000 And the thing is about World of Warcraft, they didn't show blood and gore.

00:41:36.000 The hits were just sparks.

00:41:38.000 But you still had the aggressive nature.

00:41:41.000 You still had conquest.

00:41:42.000 You still had challenges, threats of war.

00:41:44.000 It was serious.

00:41:46.000 Yeah, Diablo is another Blizzard IP that they really have fumbled with because they just have lazily gone into the blood.

00:41:53.000 They just show a lot of blood.

00:41:54.000 They're like, it's Diablo, the devil, so let's just do pain, suffering, and blood.

00:41:58.000 And like, I don't want to watch a cutscene of a girl ripping a guy's stomach open and eating his. 1.00

00:42:02.000 Like, I'll just skip it.

00:42:04.000 This is supposed to be an A, triple A plus best game in the world, the fourth one.

00:42:09.000 And the old Diablo's, you just blow up enemies.

00:42:12.000 There wasn't, it didn't matter.

00:42:12.000 They just explode.

00:42:14.000 Maybe there was a pool of blood on the ground, but it wasn't about the blood. 0.70

00:42:17.000 It's not about the boobs.

00:42:18.000 Phil, you got to take it. 0.74

00:42:19.000 Okay.

00:42:20.000 Family emergency.

00:42:21.000 Okay, buddy.

00:42:22.000 Nothing too crazy, but I got to go.

00:42:23.000 Well, I'm just going to keep talking about video games.

00:42:26.000 Yeah.

00:42:27.000 Thanks for coming.

00:42:29.000 You guys want to complain about?

00:42:30.000 Okay, see you, buddy.

00:42:32.000 I want to, let's just go.

00:42:33.000 Well, you know, the direction I was thinking of looking at this in is I'm wondering if what we're actually seeing here is a much larger cultural shift.

00:42:33.000 What were you going to say?

00:42:42.000 There's a great article written by a guy named Jacob Savage in this online journal Compact.

00:42:46.000 It's called The Lost Generation.

00:42:48.000 And the premise that he makes there is that what happened between Generation X and the millennials, and then it's going to be Generation Z, is that that move for DEI and to get equal representation of women and everyone else in the workforce just took over like the cultural, you know, we call the cultural industries.

00:43:11.000 So film, universities, television shows, where the Gen Z white males didn't leave and say, okay, we're going to give our seats to black women, right? 0.69

00:43:21.000 But what they did is they then were part of, you know, hiring programs that only hired basically non-white males.

00:43:28.000 So you had all of these, you know, millennials who work up and coming in, say, the entertainment industry to be writers and producers and things.

00:43:38.000 And suddenly they're being looked over no matter how good their work is.

00:43:41.000 And what I would wonder is, are we seeing this same phenomenon here in the video game world?

00:43:46.000 Because this is totally fitting up.

00:43:48.000 Yes, it's totally fitting up time-wise because it was about 2014, they say, when this shift really took place.

00:43:56.000 And then you saw white males largely going to other kinds of industries, kind of like what we're doing here.

00:44:02.000 It's 2016 that they made that black orc woman that I was talking about. 0.99

00:44:05.000 I don't even have her name, but it's 2016.

00:44:07.000 This is something that we've talked about a little bit.

00:44:08.000 We were talking about the other days.

00:44:09.000 We were talking about it earlier.

00:44:11.000 It's become a phenomenon.

00:44:12.000 There was a piece that came out.

00:44:13.000 I forget what the article was in.

00:44:16.000 But talking about how millennial men, older millennials, Gen X, and boomers have largely kept their positions, but it's become really, really hard for young guys, for younger millennials, Gen Z, and likely some Gen Alpha kids to find jobs because they're basically pulling the ladder up behind them, right?

00:44:38.000 So there's this push for diversity and inclusion that happened, started probably 10 years ago, really kind of peaked in 2020 or whatever.

00:44:47.000 And so there were all these guys in these positions, and they jumped on board with it right away, saying, oh, yeah, we want to make sure that we hire diverse people.

00:44:55.000 And they were hiring people, you know, all kinds of different backgrounds and stuff.

00:44:58.000 And they were essentially blocking out the possibility for young white guys.

00:45:04.000 And then you have all these positions or you have all these kids that are just not getting jobs.

00:45:08.000 They go to college.

00:45:09.000 They get sold the bill of goods that if you go to college, you'll get a job.

00:45:12.000 You go ahead and take a loan out because you'll get a good job and you'll be able to pay it off.

00:45:16.000 And these young guys aren't getting jobs at all.

00:45:18.000 And it's starting to show in the culture because the type of stories that a diverse, you know, a diverse group of people or a woman would write or a person from a minority background, they are different types of stories than young men.

00:45:34.000 It's not necessarily just that, but the type of person who would get ahead by those types of programs would.

00:45:38.000 So these industries have been diverse for years.

00:45:41.000 There have been fantastic writers and directors of all different races for a very long time.

00:45:47.000 But the ones who have gotten by virtue of these programs put a specific interest in the concept of identity and talking about how identity affects storytelling, which is going to leak into the type of stories that you think are necessary to tell on screen.

00:46:00.000 If we're talking video games and movies also, a lot of it is, if it's not the four quadrant approach that I was talking about for the big blockbuster movies, it is the idea that you make your movies with a female audience in mind, even if they're doing it wrong.

00:46:13.000 So in Hollywood for superhero movies, that's to put women in roles that were traditionally, these characters have always existed, but they were never at the same level of supergirl is not superman in a lot of ways, or in the same way Batman and Batgirl, all of these things, is that when people go, when men go watch superhero movies, that is the male power fantasy, the quintessential idea of being the hyper-competent, good in any situation dude who can solve, you know, it still exists in a realm today, what they call dad TV,

00:46:41.000 which is military dramas or covert ops stuff like terminalist or anything Taylor Sheridan is doing, stuff like that.

00:46:50.000 But when you try to make it for everybody, what they just did is they just put women in those roles rather than adjusting for the type of storytelling, which there are still good stories that can be told here.

00:47:00.000 But they didn't do that.

00:47:01.000 They just slapped a new coat of paint on what they were doing and it's falling flat.

00:47:05.000 And that shows in stuff like this.

00:47:08.000 I saw, you guys ever see The Last of Us?

00:47:10.000 Pretty popular show, but I watched the first episode.

00:47:13.000 My mom was like, you got to see it.

00:47:15.000 I'm like, that's what people have been telling me for years.

00:47:16.000 Can't wait. 0.99

00:47:16.000 Get ready for this garbage. 0.99

00:47:18.000 And I watch it, and it was like Zoom's, you know, apocalypse, mushrooms, attack, Zoom comes to the future. 0.98

00:47:23.000 And now they're in this like camp.

00:47:24.000 And these are survivors of humanity.

00:47:26.000 It's a bunch of women in charge. 1.00

00:47:27.000 I'm like, bro, in a post-apocalyptic society, the women would have been taken captive and used to breed. 1.00

00:47:33.000 Do you understand how messed up this movie is?

00:47:36.000 They're not willing to approach that type of post-apocalyptic story anymore with any sense of realism.

00:47:42.000 There was a show back in like the early 2000s called Jeremiah that was really, really good talking about stuff like that and the way warlords would crop up in different areas of the country and stuff like that.

00:47:53.000 But that type of story, there is no premium put on that type of what they would consider accuracy, at least what we know of history and how war affects or when different people come into different communities, take over, and what happens.

00:48:06.000 There's no approach to that anymore.

00:48:08.000 Also, the other problem is, is back in the day, movies were made or television shows were made by people that studied literature.

00:48:15.000 Now movies and television are made by people that study film.

00:48:17.000 So they don't have a classical understanding of those stories the way they would have in the past.

00:48:23.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a great point.

00:48:25.000 Because you ask how much do what we see represented, like you said, it's putting forward the ideals of DEI culture and making that in the storylines.

00:48:36.000 But you even go back to these diverse cultures, if diversity is our strength and we love diversity, we go back to these other cultures.

00:48:41.000 And I mean, do we see African myths that have these storylines?

00:48:46.000 Or, you know, no one anywhere, male or female, is enjoying these storylines.

00:48:51.000 Well, and the thing is, they could do that most of the time.

00:48:53.000 They're not doing that.

00:48:54.000 There is the idea that you could tell a unique story from a unique culture and people would have a certain level of interest in that.

00:49:01.000 But what they would rather do is slap the new coat of paint on it because they are looking to gather the largest audience possible.

00:49:07.000 To them, if you tell a story unique to African culture or unique to Spanish culture, these studios are now run by corporate executives.

00:49:16.000 And these corporate executives, they look at demographics and they look at focus groups and test groups.

00:49:21.000 What audience is going to come out the most for this, depending on the budget for that movie, they are going to soften it and make it the most kind of mishmash bit of like, you know, cinematic oatmeal, basically, where it's all slop that runs together because they're trying to get everybody to watch.

00:49:35.000 And what people actually want to see are authentic stories.

00:49:38.000 And they don't realize that most people, they do not need to see themselves represented on screen to go and watch a movie.

00:49:46.000 It's just not something that's actually real to people that aren't terminally online. 0.72

00:49:49.000 I find that the attempt to please everybody does miss the mark because I think the thing about culture and cultural victory is when you make something that appeals to a niche and then the rest of the world sees it and they're like, holy shit, I want to become part of that.

00:50:02.000 And then they change to form your niche and you build your niche.

00:50:06.000 Go ahead.

00:50:07.000 Well, I mean, that's the way I've always seen valuable art is like it, it hits us so right that it appeals to people that never even knew it could exist.

00:50:14.000 I brought up Maverick earlier.

00:50:16.000 It's like that movie really did kind of focus on just the things that worked for Top Gun initially in the first movie.

00:50:23.000 And it was the biggest movie of the year.

00:50:26.000 I mean, even that, like the point I always make with that movie is it ends on a love ballad.

00:50:30.000 Like, when was the last time you saw a movie that actually like unapologetically leaned into that type?

00:50:36.000 He gets the girl at the end, right? 0.81

00:50:38.000 Like, he, so in that story, he's kind of a man out of time.

00:50:41.000 He, he doesn't really, he feels like the world has passed him by.

00:50:44.000 He doesn't really know if he has what it takes anymore because there are younger pilots.

00:50:49.000 The military is moving past what he does.

00:50:51.000 Makes perfect sense.

00:50:52.000 That's something that anybody of any age, I think, can at least understand.

00:50:55.000 Even a young person can understand because they look at their dad and they say, like, my dad doesn't know what's going on in the world either, right?

00:51:01.000 And depending on how, you know, romantic, you know, how much you're willing to romanticize that type of storytelling, that speaks to men and women, young and old, but it's not designed specifically for that purpose.

00:51:11.000 Men love it because of the idea of flying a jet and getting the girl. 0.98

00:51:15.000 Women love the idea of it because, you know, competent men save the world for them in jets. 1.00

00:51:21.000 I got a question for you guys.

00:51:22.000 This is just like your opinion.

00:51:23.000 If I was going to write a movie and there's an action movie, and should I have the guy, should there be a romantic story in the movie where the guy gets the girl at the end, or should it just be pure action?

00:51:32.000 It should save the woman and the child, but he has to move on anyway.

00:51:34.000 And there's no never romantic.

00:51:36.000 She desires him, but there's no copulation.

00:51:38.000 We're past.

00:51:39.000 I would say the second one.

00:51:40.000 I would say you're.

00:51:41.000 No, no.

00:51:42.000 I'm so sick of them.

00:51:44.000 Like they're just willing to get away from that entirely.

00:51:46.000 No, the dude should absolutely.

00:51:48.000 I like it when the guy gets the girl. 0.93

00:51:50.000 I think you should have the opportunity to get the girl, but not take it.

00:51:50.000 Yeah.

00:51:53.000 Like you're saying.

00:51:53.000 Nope.

00:51:54.000 You think so?

00:51:54.000 That's the argument I tell my brother because he's like, he's got to get the girl.

00:51:56.000 And I'm like, well, I like it that he's like, keep it robotic, keep it animalistic.

00:52:00.000 He also comes out on top because he has options, you know.

00:52:00.000 Well, animalistic.

00:52:03.000 So in Twisters the other year, Glenn Powell, it was actually really good.

00:52:07.000 It was the one movie that I thought was going to fail.

00:52:09.000 It ended up being really, really good.

00:52:11.000 And he develops a relationship or quat, what you'd consider like a romantic interest in the main girl.

00:52:16.000 And at the end, they literally have them come together and then nothing happens.

00:52:21.000 And it's just like, why?

00:52:22.000 Like, there was nothing to be gained.

00:52:22.000 Like, what is the point?

00:52:24.000 And they literally tried to make some argument about how putting them together at the end would cheapen the storytelling.

00:52:29.000 To who?

00:52:30.000 To any rational person who understands love and romance and getting through something traumatic together, you want to see that from them.

00:52:38.000 You don't want to see them just be like, oh, for the sake of, I guess, her agency, they don't come together.

00:52:44.000 She's an adult and they, you know, they're falling in love in a matter of speaking, or at least in a very short period of time.

00:52:50.000 That's something appealing.

00:52:51.000 And that's the thing.

00:52:51.000 Women would find that appealing too, not just men.

00:52:54.000 And look, the whole reason guys try to be competent and try to be successful is because they want to get women. 0.97

00:52:54.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:53:00.000 They want to attract women.

00:53:02.000 That's the base instinct, right?

00:53:03.000 So if you, and it's like, sure, there's the, there's a portion of guys that would be like, yeah, he, he decides not to, and he's, he's got bigger things on his mind.

00:53:11.000 But unless you have an integral part of the story that says he can't do this for what happens, like Terminator 2, because that was my argument.

00:53:19.000 Arl Schwarzenegger's not trying to get it on with Linda Hamilton.

00:53:21.000 He's a robot.

00:53:23.000 Yes.

00:53:24.000 I think he weighs like a thousand pounds.

00:53:26.000 So I think he'd crush her if he did.

00:53:28.000 So take the Avengers movie where Hulk, or what's his name?

00:53:32.000 You know, Banner has to leave, right?

00:53:34.000 He leaves because he's too afraid of what he would do to the world as the Hulk.

00:53:40.000 Like the Scarlet Witch got in his head, and ever since then, he was kind of messed up.

00:53:44.000 And so he's like, I can't be around people.

00:53:46.000 So there was an actual tangible reason why he couldn't be with the Scarlet Witch.

00:53:52.000 I'm sorry, with the Black Widow.

00:53:54.000 But like, other than something that has a significant part of the story, like dudes want to see the guys get the girl, right?

00:54:02.000 And I think this all comes back to they've overcomplicated all of this.

00:54:06.000 They've made this type of storytelling more difficult than it needs to be.

00:54:09.000 There's a reason why these tropes have worked for as long as they have because people understand people want those basic concepts.

00:54:15.000 They want to see people overcome obstacles.

00:54:17.000 They want to see people fall in love.

00:54:20.000 They want to see all of these things.

00:54:21.000 But it's like they're being told, whether it's by feminist literature or people who study critical race theory or all these things, you can't do that now.

00:54:29.000 It's promoting bad ideas.

00:54:31.000 It's gotten us to where we are in society.

00:54:33.000 Patriarchy. 0.93

00:54:34.000 It's the patriarchy.

00:54:34.000 Exactly.

00:54:35.000 So by trying to be clever and work around it, they end up making their products worse.

00:54:40.000 Yeah.

00:54:40.000 And again, it's something that is inherent.

00:54:43.000 Even in today's modern society, it's inherent for people to want to get together.

00:54:50.000 Like dudes that are pissed off at women, right?

00:54:53.000 Like the go-your-own-way, they're always complaining about it.

00:54:55.000 Do you guys feel the thunder?

00:54:57.000 Feel the vibration.

00:54:58.000 Pretty serious.

00:54:59.000 They said, don't bang on the table.

00:55:00.000 Nod didn't listen.

00:55:01.000 I'm sure that my is that what that is?

00:55:04.000 Yeah, I know it's thunder.

00:55:05.000 There was somebody at the skate park.

00:55:06.000 I bet my kids are still going.

00:55:07.000 Serious thunder.

00:55:08.000 Yeah, it's really bad to him.

00:55:10.000 Okay.

00:55:11.000 Sorry, Phil.

00:55:12.000 Not so rudely interrupted you.

00:55:13.000 I apologize on behalf of Ian's like, weather, guys, weather.

00:55:16.000 But yeah, so I mean, it is something that's still ingrained in people.

00:55:21.000 They want to find connection, and men generally want to find connection with a woman.

00:55:25.000 And so, like I said, even though the men go their own ways, the MGTOW guys, like they're complaining about the fact that they can't meet women. 0.88

00:55:32.000 They're complaining.

00:55:34.000 They're upset about it.

00:55:35.000 And they say, well, it's not worth it.

00:55:36.000 But that's all motivated by the fact that they're angry that they can't find a person that they think is interested in them or they don't feel like they can trust women and stuff.

00:55:45.000 So the desire, the motivation is almost always for a family or to be with a woman or whatever.

00:55:53.000 That's the way guys kind of think.

00:55:54.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:55:58.000 I just think, yeah, the point that you're bringing up is if you look throughout history and you look at some of the iconic films, it's this idea of the self-sacrificing male who restrains many of his urges and things or self-interest in order to build something larger.

00:56:13.000 You notice like the old Clinton Wood movies like Pale Riot or something, you know, comes into town, restores order, then rides off in the sunset.

00:56:20.000 You see it in a real, probably sort of a forgotten film now, but a classic with Shane, a famous Western, very much like that, where Shane then, having done, having overcome the, you know, the cattle barons, I believe it was either rides off, you know, into the distance.

00:56:36.000 And there was something very appealing about that, as well as appealing to the guy who comes and gets the girl and saves the day.

00:56:44.000 But I think what's not appealing is when those roles get all reversed, because it's not what men are looking for and who they want to be.

00:56:50.000 It's not what women are looking for and what women want. 1.00

00:56:53.000 And I think if we want to look at iconic films, I mean, let's go all the way back to the original Star Wars, right?

00:56:58.000 There you've got Luke Skywalker shooting a grappling hook, grabs Princess Leah, they swing across, you know, some abyss, you know, in the middle of this huge ship.

00:57:06.000 And he's competing or Luke's hand solo's competing with him for her affection.

00:57:11.000 And she's totally feminine. 1.00

00:57:12.000 I mean, she's out there wielding a blaster, but she's still a feminine character. 1.00

00:57:16.000 You fast forward to episode seven where they bring in Ray, who turns out to be Ray Palpatine.

00:57:21.000 And I mean, she's, you know, the Mary Sue, right?

00:57:23.000 She just, oh, finds the Millennium Falcon in the junk, you know, junkyard, and she can fly everything.

00:57:29.000 She just goes her way.

00:57:30.000 Right.

00:57:30.000 Kylo Wren, this guy stops particle beams with his brain.

00:57:33.000 She kicks his butt with a lightsaber. 1.00

00:57:35.000 They also went up. 0.99

00:57:36.000 It's just, it's not anything close to what people desire or innately feel is what our purpose is as human beings.

00:57:42.000 Somebody pointed out that like the reason Kylo Wren doesn't work is because Darth Vader is always calm.

00:57:47.000 Like early, like you don't see him lose control, whereas Kylo Wren is just constantly yelling.

00:57:51.000 And that's not scary.

00:57:53.000 You think about the scene when Darth Vader's watching them escape.

00:57:58.000 The only emotion you see is the back of his head.

00:58:00.000 He just turns his head the other way and then just walks away from the window.

00:58:04.000 There's no outburst.

00:58:06.000 There's just like, okay, that happened.

00:58:08.000 Yeah, less emotion.

00:58:09.000 There's more masculine in a situation like that.

00:58:10.000 I always love Vader when Luke's beaten on with the lightsaber and Vader's like, and then he goes, oh, it's like the one time you get to hear him scream and he gets his arm cut off.

00:58:20.000 I will make an argument to your point earlier about getting the girl.

00:58:23.000 One example would be James Bond movies where he does get the girl, but he does not stay in one place.

00:58:28.000 He gets all the girls. 0.98

00:58:29.000 He gets all the girls, but that might be more what they mean, which is like he gets the women, the women want him, because that's the whole James Bond power fantasy is like the men want to be him, the women want to be with him.

00:58:39.000 But he's not like, like, it got bad in the Daniel Craig movies when they focused too much on after Casino Royale on how much he loved Vesper.

00:58:47.000 Because I'm like, I don't really care if James Bond is in love because that's not really what James Bond is about on the structural level of the character.

00:58:54.000 He at the end of the movie was like, I love you so much, I want to quit being a spy and be whatever.

00:58:58.000 He does.

00:58:58.000 Now he's just flame.

00:58:59.000 He literally does do that.

00:59:00.000 Well, that's the mistake I was going to make fun of.

00:59:02.000 Well, he does.

00:59:03.000 Well, I don't want to give spoiler or something.

00:59:04.000 He's like, let's get married and settle down.

00:59:07.000 I'll quit my mission.

00:59:09.000 Make you my mission.

00:59:10.000 So he literally does that.

00:59:12.000 So you can skip ahead a couple of minutes if you didn't see Casino Royale back in 2006.

00:59:16.000 But basically, yeah, he tells Vesper that he will walk away from being a spy.

00:59:20.000 And then, you know, she does.

00:59:22.000 And I'll stop being James Bond.

00:59:24.000 She betrays him.

00:59:24.000 I'll stop.

00:59:25.000 Oh, perfect.

00:59:27.000 So that's how that ends.

00:59:28.000 That's what he gets.

00:59:30.000 Now he's back to being distant.

00:59:31.000 All right.

00:59:32.000 We're going to jump to this story from the Boston Herald.

00:59:34.000 Moulton State of the Union guest referenced in police reports involving sexual assault and juveniles, according to police.

00:59:42.000 Let's see.

00:59:42.000 Congressman Seth Molton's illegal immigrant guest during the State of the Union address is referenced in police reports involving sexual assault and juveniles.

00:59:49.000 Police say the Herald submitted a public records request to the Secretary of State's office in the Milford Police Department regarding two reports, one from June and the other from September of 2021, where Marcielo Gomez de Silva was apparently named as the person of interest.

01:00:03.000 The Herald sought the police report number 21-23101 dated 9-15-2021 featuring Marcelo Gomes de Silva and 1-16-254 dated 6-30-21, also featuring the 19-year-old.

01:00:17.000 Milford Deputy Chief John Sanchioni denied both of those requests, indicating that the police report from June 21st involves sexual assault and juveniles, and that the report from September 21st involves juveniles.

01:00:29.000 He did not elaborate.

01:00:30.000 The deputy chief simply wrote, The records you are requesting are not public record.

01:00:34.000 In accordance with blah, blah, blah, involves a sexual assault and juveniles report, blah, blah, blah, involves juveniles.

01:00:40.000 So it's pretty interesting that it seems the Democrats always side with some kind of criminal.

01:00:49.000 Like beyond the fact that they're here illegally, they always hold up these people that they believe are these model immigrants that they can say, oh, you know, look, this is an illegal person.

01:01:00.000 This person's here illegally. 0.89

01:01:01.000 They don't have papers.

01:01:02.000 They're an undocumented person. 1.00

01:01:05.000 And then it always turns around and bite him in the ass because they've got some kind of criminal history that really Americans just don't want to have to. 0.99

01:01:13.000 They don't want to hear about it. 1.00

01:01:14.000 They don't want to hear that this person, that immigrants are committing crimes.

01:01:18.000 They want criminals sent out of here.

01:01:20.000 And Democrats can't help but take the side of people that are coming to the United States and committing massive amounts of crime.

01:01:27.000 Why do you think that is?

01:01:28.000 Well, because I think that, honestly, I think that Democrats believe that everybody that has committed crimes should be, you know, is required to be.

01:01:37.000 Victim of circumstance.

01:01:38.000 Well, yeah, they're victim of circumstance.

01:01:39.000 They believe in the blank slate.

01:01:41.000 They believe that if the structural issues in the United States weren't the way they are, that these people wouldn't have committed crimes.

01:01:47.000 And I think that's totally BS.

01:01:49.000 I think there are people that are more inclined to commit crimes and there are people that are less inclined to commit crimes.

01:01:54.000 And the people that are more inclined to commit crimes do multiple crimes like come here illegally.

01:02:00.000 There was four years of the Biden administration where the, where basically anybody that could get here was allowed to stay.

01:02:07.000 There was no background checks on anyone to talk about.

01:02:10.000 And so there were a lot of people that had issues in their initial, in their countries of origin, where they said, oh, I can get out of here and I'll go to the United States and I can start over or I can just stay there because the United States is allowing basically anyone to come in, right?

01:02:26.000 Biden himself said it.

01:02:28.000 He said, you should surge the border here for, if you can get to the border, we'll take you in. 0.98

01:02:35.000 If you want to seek asylum, come here, et cetera. 1.00

01:02:37.000 And they were just allowing people to come into the interior of the country.

01:02:40.000 Anyone that got here, they didn't have to go to a port of entry.

01:02:43.000 They didn't have to go through the normal asylum rules.

01:02:45.000 They just showed up and the Biden administration let them in.

01:02:48.000 So that was a gigantic magnet for people that were criminals in their countries of origin to come to the United States.

01:02:53.000 And I think this is just emblematic of it.

01:02:55.000 Also, that is, you know, structurally for the Democrats, that's a benefit because of what it does for the census.

01:03:01.000 And then what it does is it takes advantage of the toxic levels of empathy that a lot of people in their voter base have, which means that they get to use it.

01:03:09.000 It's politically expedient for them to use it as a means of growing their voting base as well as changing the demographics of whatever cities they're going to, whatever, people that are more in line with Democrat policies.

01:03:22.000 And then you are the bad guy if you, for some reason, don't believe it.

01:03:24.000 And the funny thing was, we saw the video, I think we talked about it last week, about the lady who she fled.

01:03:29.000 Her and her partner fled to Canada and couldn't afford the rent there because it's freaking expensive to live wherever they were in Vancouver or whatever it was.

01:03:37.000 And said, look, we can't apply for any of the social services.

01:03:41.000 We don't qualify.

01:03:43.000 That's fine.

01:03:44.000 And I was like, look, I don't know what this lady's full plate of political beliefs are, but it's not hard to believe that if you fled America, fled Trump's America, that you probably have a pretty soft stance on American immigration, right?

01:03:56.000 You probably think that anybody that wants to come here is, you know, it's all well and good because it's our duty to apparently help everybody else across the world.

01:04:05.000 And it's all, it's weirdly, it's not even hypocrisy because it's intentional.

01:04:10.000 Yeah.

01:04:11.000 If we didn't have such eyes on what's happening, I think this may be, maybe the first time in world history ever in human history that we know of that a society realized they were being invaded through a mass migration.

01:04:25.000 It's got to always, after the fact, they find out maybe the government knows. 0.93

01:04:29.000 But if the government's complicit, I mean, when the government says police search, they'll keep the population snowed out and not knowing what the fuck until they're taken over. 0.88

01:04:36.000 And then they're like, see, now, but this is worse than complicit, though. 0.86

01:04:39.000 The reason.

01:04:39.000 It's worse.

01:04:40.000 Well, once again, I just want to drive one point, and then I'll give it back to you.

01:04:42.000 But like, it's worse than complicit.

01:04:44.000 They're facilitating.

01:04:45.000 They're not just saying, oh, we're going to ignore the fact that there are criminals coming here.

01:04:50.000 They're facilitating these people.

01:04:52.000 They would go and they would offer flights to them.

01:04:56.000 They offer them support from government programs.

01:04:59.000 This is worse than just being like, well, we're going to turn a blind eye.

01:05:03.000 They're actually helping people.

01:05:05.000 He told them to surge.

01:05:06.000 He told people, surge the border.

01:05:08.000 That's Biden.

01:05:09.000 Said that when he was campaigning for president, and then he won.

01:05:12.000 So I think the whole, like, why people feel like that, right?

01:05:15.000 He was before he got into office.

01:05:16.000 Yeah, I was interviewing him.

01:05:17.000 He came in like November before he got elected or October.

01:05:19.000 Office of the president-elect situation.

01:05:22.000 No, no, he was a debate with Trump.

01:05:24.000 He was debating with Trump.

01:05:25.000 But that people are treated like the bad guy when they speak out against it.

01:05:29.000 I don't think that dynamics really existed much in history because we didn't have internet video to see and to complain about the problem in the acute moment.

01:05:36.000 And the government would just so.

01:05:39.000 Well, you know, a lot of this goes back to demographic forecasting that they did back in the early 2000s, right?

01:05:45.000 So in general, 80% of children tend to adopt the political views of their parents.

01:05:51.000 And so back in the early 2000s, I mean, the Democrats did, a lot of people were talking about this, but in particular, the Democrats realized the risk for their party, which was that liberal voters are reproducing at much lower rates than conservative ones.

01:06:07.000 So as the demographic trajectories were going, it would only be a short matter of time before conservatives are really outpopulating.

01:06:15.000 Conservatives and moderates, moderate conservatives, are outpopulating your farther left base of the Democratic Party.

01:06:24.000 And so you really did need to come up with new voters.

01:06:27.000 And if they weren't going to give birth to new voters, then you have to import your new voters.

01:06:32.000 So it's been a long strategy going on probably for about 20 years or more to do just this.

01:06:38.000 And then it also ties in to communist interests in the United States, right?

01:06:43.000 So the long-standing goal of the communist parties was to bring in people from poorer countries who would be more ideologically aligned with socialism because they would benefit the most from it.

01:06:58.000 And actually Venezuela was seen to be a significant player in that because as Venezuela destabilized under its previous regimes, then it's sending more and more refugees who are liable to come eventually United States with at least more socialistically leaning proclivities, right?

01:07:17.000 And so that's what you do.

01:07:18.000 That's how you replace one voter demographic with another in order to maintain political power. 0.92

01:07:25.000 And we see that, of course, taking place in Europe, where the elite political class of Europe is more than willing to offset the indigenous voter base of natural-born Europeans with migrants and then play to those migrant interests.

01:07:40.000 We saw that in Spain just last, I think it was last week, where they gave citizenship to something like 500,000 African immigrants for the express purpose of offsetting what they called the far right.

01:07:54.000 Yeah.

01:07:55.000 Go ahead.

01:07:55.000 Oh, that's shocking.

01:07:56.000 That's the first I'd heard that.

01:07:58.000 Absolutely.

01:07:59.000 The idea that they're importing voters?

01:08:01.000 And that they made 500,000 people citizens?

01:08:03.000 They added half a million in one swoop.

01:08:06.000 I mean, Chuck Schumer just talked about the other day, talked about naturalizing or giving amnesty to 11 million in the United States.

01:08:14.000 What did he say?

01:08:14.000 He said that we should give amnesty to 11 million people in the United States.

01:08:18.000 Of the current illegal, illegal immigrants. 0.61

01:08:22.000 And that's essentially the overarching plan, right?

01:08:26.000 Allow the people to come in, allow them to become somehow connected to the United States, whether it be get jobs, you know, say.

01:08:34.000 Move index to your neighbors.

01:08:35.000 Yeah.

01:08:36.000 And so then they're members of the, then they're not illegals, they're members of the community.

01:08:39.000 If you listen to the people in Minneapolis talk, they were all saying the same thing.

01:08:44.000 These are members of our community.

01:08:46.000 And so they're trying to convince people that these people that are here illegally, that have come in illegally, that they're vital members of the community and we can't break apart communities.

01:08:57.000 They use these phrases that are politically charged and essentially emotionally charged in order to get people to feel bad because the whole suicidal empathy thing is a real phenomenon, right?

01:09:08.000 So you tell people that they're actually important members of the community and we can't break up communities like that.

01:09:14.000 And people are like, oh, well, we can't deport these people.

01:09:16.000 That's sad and it makes me feel bad.

01:09:18.000 And so then they're hoping that the argument becomes, well, we need to allow these people to stay.

01:09:25.000 And then they promote an amnesty program and allow them to become citizens.

01:09:31.000 And then you have a significant increase in the voter base, which is likely to be largely Democrat.

01:09:38.000 We were talking this morning.

01:09:39.000 When you have people from the third world come in, the way that their societies are structured and the things that they expect from their government is different. 0.98

01:09:46.000 In the Somali community in Minnesota, there was a lot of people that expected if they vote for the Democrat or the person that they vote for, they expect that person to literally shield them from the law.

01:09:58.000 And there was a guy in Maine that's a Somali guy.

01:10:01.000 He was on camera talking to his representative saying, look, we voted for you.

01:10:05.000 You have to protect us from this stuff.

01:10:07.000 And he didn't mean to try to change the law.

01:10:11.000 He meant literally to interpose himself between the law and the community that voted for him.

01:10:16.000 You should protect us.

01:10:17.000 We should be allowed to break the law and you protect us because we voted for you.

01:10:22.000 That's totally a foreign concept in a country like the United States where, look, you can play by the rules, but the law is the same for everybody.

01:10:31.000 And the notion that this person was trying to get across is if we vote for you, then we should be above the law because you should protect us.

01:10:40.000 us.

01:10:40.000 And that's something that does matter.

01:10:42.000 Like how the people put how the people conceive of their relationship with the government and with their representatives matters.

01:10:49.000 And the people that are brought here from different cultures look at government in a different way than we do. 0.94

01:10:55.000 And some ways is totally foreign to the way that we do.

01:10:59.000 And it doesn't mesh.

01:11:01.000 It also kind of underlines just how much the Overton window has switched in a lot of ways, where it depends on how much of a romantic view you've carried about immigration in the past.

01:11:11.000 You know, a great part of the American story was the idea that the people that wanted to get here, that really did believe in what America stood for, could do so, integrate into the community, assimilate to the values that Americans had.

01:11:23.000 And to most of us, depending on how far you are along the line, now that was a beautiful thing.

01:11:28.000 And it was something that a lot of Americans supported and a lot of them still do.

01:11:31.000 And they come up against this idea of people who have crossed the border illegally.

01:11:36.000 They are now part of your community.

01:11:38.000 And they are taxed with the idea that they have to be harsh and say, look, this isn't the way.

01:11:42.000 This isn't how community, you know, this isn't how we build upon the empire that we have here.

01:11:47.000 We have to make changes.

01:11:49.000 And you're held to account to say, like, if you don't come to this, the same conclusion we do, which is that anybody can come in no matter what, you are a bad person because they're expecting you to look at somebody in the face and say, this guy who lives next door to you, you're saying he has to go, right?

01:12:04.000 It's not a fair position to put them in, but it's also not a fair.

01:12:07.000 You were put in that position by them.

01:12:10.000 And like we were saying earlier, depending on who your elected officials are, you know, the idea of empathy goes a long way in a lot of these voting blocks.

01:12:17.000 You know, part of this, this really the gross or the sad part about this situation is that they were, a lot of those people were told to come here by the guy who became president.

01:12:26.000 So like, it's not like a bunch of people just came in under somebody's watch and snuck in and were like, no, now they're here.

01:12:33.000 We got to get them out.

01:12:34.000 I think there'd be a lot more people on board like, hey, that can't happen.

01:12:37.000 They were invited by the guy that was the president.

01:12:39.000 So like.

01:12:40.000 That's a portion of it, too.

01:12:41.000 But there's also a lot that they crossed.

01:12:43.000 It wasn't even about asylum or anything like that.

01:12:46.000 They came across multiple borders to get here.

01:12:49.000 They wanted to be here.

01:12:51.000 They didn't want to be in Mexico. 0.88

01:12:52.000 They wanted to come all the way here because America allows them more economic opportunities.

01:12:56.000 And to criticize Trump, as we should, they didn't do enough about the factory farms.

01:13:01.000 They didn't punish any of the companies that were incentivized to hire these people because they know that they'll face a slap on the wrist and maybe some fines and that person gets deported.

01:13:11.000 They don't suffer any penalties for that.

01:13:13.000 The whole point of it was to import a legitimate slave class that Republicans have paid lip service to deportations, but both parties benefit from. 0.79

01:13:23.000 Yeah, I mean, as far as the employing of illegals, that's one thing that I actually agree with Democrats on. 1.00

01:13:30.000 Like the DOJ should be going after businesses that employ people that are illegals. 1.00

01:13:35.000 Like if you hire people that are here, if you knowingly hire illegals, you should, there should be some kind of consequences. 1.00

01:13:42.000 There's part of me that thinks that you should lose your whole business if it's found that you've done it multiple times or whatever.

01:13:48.000 First offense, it should be a fine that is big enough where it really affects your ability to run your twice about it.

01:13:56.000 Was that?

01:13:57.000 Yeah, that you think twice about it.

01:13:58.000 So that kind of policy would do something to change people, you know, change the minds of people coming here.

01:13:58.000 Yeah.

01:14:05.000 If they knew that they couldn't get work, if they knew that they couldn't rent an apartment or find some place to live, then they wouldn't come here.

01:14:12.000 But they know that the government has all kinds of programs.

01:14:15.000 They know that the government has all kinds of support structure for illegals that honestly frequently aren't offered to regular Americans, to American citizens.

01:14:24.000 And so there are even, I mean, look, there are even programs that the government has to help people that have come here illegally or people that are seeking asylum or whatever.

01:14:32.000 HHS has a program called, I forget the name of the program, but they had a program where they were basically shipping people around the country to do basically the whole trying to turn, it essentially boiled down to turning flights, right?

01:14:45.000 When they were like exposing people that put on flights, we were paying for it.

01:14:49.000 It was the refugee resettlement program.

01:14:51.000 So you'd come here ostensibly as a refugee and they would give you a flight to somewhere around, somewhere in the country.

01:14:58.000 And what it turned into was they were flying people to red places in order to try to turn them purple, you know, to try and affect the outcomes of elections.

01:15:07.000 It was also a problem with the messaging that like when they were making the deportation videos, right?

01:15:11.000 They're making hype reels that are basically red meat for the base.

01:15:14.000 But the problem is, is like there is a large part of your voting demographic now, especially with a big tent policy, is there are people there that want those deportations, but it's hold their nose and see it done because they wouldn't have the heart to do it themselves, which is, of course, the point, like you were saying, of bringing people in was to make it harder for you to see a person have to be removed from the country because you've turned them into a person.

01:15:38.000 They're no longer somebody who came here illegally.

01:15:40.000 They're a human being.

01:15:41.000 And unfortunately, it is the government's job to look at them as somebody that needs to be deported, not as the individual.

01:15:46.000 So a lot of that messaging, I felt like ended up turning a lot of people away from it because a lot of the people in the middle saw those videos and they're like, you're making light of it.

01:15:54.000 I get it.

01:15:55.000 Like it's funny, whatever, but you lose people.

01:15:57.000 And if the point here is to build your political capital, not spend your political capital, I don't think that that was the right thing to do.

01:16:03.000 Right, but I kind of like the hyper personal.

01:16:05.000 You probably got to see Sin Frontera, man, because like that film Kevin, a 6-7 Kevin made, kind of goes into like what happened to make all of these, you know, everyone come here and how messed up it is.

01:16:16.000 So maybe, I don't know.

01:16:18.000 Shout out to Sin Frontera.

01:16:20.000 Where is it?

01:16:20.000 Is it on Rumble?

01:16:21.000 It's on Rumble.

01:16:21.000 Yeah, I think it's on Rumble.

01:16:23.000 The videos that Christy Noam was overseeing getting pumped out that you were talking about, Brett, these propaganda videos, I agree.

01:16:28.000 I was disgusted.

01:16:29.000 And they used Theo Vaughan without his consent.

01:16:31.000 And he's going, heard you're getting deported.

01:16:33.000 Bye.

01:16:34.000 It was like a joke he said to somebody outside after a show, and now 100 million people or whatever, 50 million people saw it.

01:16:40.000 And he said he was getting death threats.

01:16:42.000 I'm like, bro, you just burned your bridge with me because he had Donald Trump on his show like four weeks before the election and basically handed him the election with that, with that, you know, publicity and his seal of approval as a, as a comedian, and him and Rogan together.

01:16:56.000 Like it was shocking.

01:16:58.000 Shocking.

01:16:59.000 The tone-deaf nature of that video was shocking.

01:17:01.000 I just thought some of them were cringe.

01:17:02.000 They did one where like the DHS head was like Batman and I'm like, bro, like, like, I think that one was made while they were on, well, while the government was shut down.

01:17:11.000 I'm like, who's the editor that's like working while the government is shut down to make all this stuff?

01:17:15.000 To the point about the podcasters, that's a hard one because he lost a lot of the, he has since lost a lot of those podcasters that kind of helped him get elected, like the Andrew Schultz's and stuff like that.

01:17:26.000 But he also can't change his business plan just because they might not have understood what he actually wanted to do.

01:17:32.000 He was open and honest about what he wanted to do.

01:17:35.000 A lot of people just weren't willing to look at what it was going to look like to do mass deportations.

01:17:40.000 He was very clear during the entire campaign that deportations were going to happen.

01:17:45.000 In fact, he was so clear that the people on the right or the more America first right, they don't think that he's done enough.

01:17:53.000 So if he's lost people that were watching, you know, the Theo Vaughn show or watching Joe Rogan, that's because they didn't understand what he was actually offering or what he was saying he was going to do.

01:18:06.000 Donald Trump hasn't been as extreme as the people on the far right that voted for him wanted him to.

01:18:13.000 So the idea that he should do less, I think that would have actually lost him more in the long run.

01:18:20.000 A question for you.

01:18:21.000 I mean, anybody who's who wants to answer and really has been, I guess, alive longer than me can tell me if this is perhaps true.

01:18:27.000 Because of the internet, because of the speed in which information moves now.

01:18:32.000 And the other week, I think I was telling you about it.

01:18:35.000 I was talking about, like, I woke up one day and it's like, everybody's a single-issue voter now.

01:18:39.000 The Maha people are mad about glyphosate. 0.64

01:18:42.000 And, you know, the anti-Israel people are mad because of Iran.

01:18:47.000 And everybody's.

01:18:48.000 He's mad because Israel.

01:18:49.000 You get the point.

01:18:49.000 But yeah.

01:18:50.000 Everybody's mad about something and saying, this is it.

01:18:53.000 They're going to lose the midterms.

01:18:54.000 They're going to lose all this stuff.

01:18:55.000 Are we kind of entering?

01:18:56.000 Is it possible that information is moving so fast now and public opinion changes so fast now that we're out of the age of like two-term presidents like back-to-back terms?

01:19:06.000 I don't know.

01:19:07.000 It could be.

01:19:07.000 Maybe.

01:19:08.000 Like, it feels like one of those things where like people will sour so fast on someone because of the speed in which we can get our information now.

01:19:15.000 There's a fight going on between both the parties as to whether or not you're going to be more further to the left or further to the right.

01:19:22.000 The Democrat Party has obviously moved significantly further to the left.

01:19:26.000 You got people like Rokana, you know, postulating or bringing up the idea of a wealth tax on property that you own.

01:19:34.000 So like you'd literally have to pay a tax on your net worth, which is a horrible idea.

01:19:39.000 There'll be massive capital flight.

01:19:41.000 California is doing that or is trying to do that as well.

01:19:43.000 Yeah, and they've lost.

01:19:45.000 I saw a, I think I talked to my AI about this, and you're looking at like 10 billionaires leave and the math doesn't work anymore.

01:19:55.000 Like that's all it's.

01:19:56.000 They want to tax them after they leave too.

01:19:57.000 Well, yeah, right now, right now that's extremely unconstitutional.

01:20:01.000 There's a lot of things that cover that because I was, again, I brought it up.

01:20:04.000 I was looking at my AI.

01:20:05.000 I was like, well, what if this happens?

01:20:06.000 But there's multiple statutes in the Constitution that prevent that.

01:20:10.000 But if it happens nationally, there is an exit tax that the federal government has a right to.

01:20:15.000 If someone leaves the country?

01:20:17.000 If someone says, I want to renounce my citizenship, you have to pay an exit tax.

01:20:21.000 So what are people?

01:20:22.000 It's like 50% or something.

01:20:23.000 That's huge.

01:20:24.000 It's punitive.

01:20:26.000 For how long after you leave the country?

01:20:27.000 Well, to renounce your citizenship, you have to pay 50% of your net worth.

01:20:32.000 Because essentially the argument is you made this money by being here in the United States, so you have to pay.

01:20:39.000 And again, it's not just 50% of the money you made last year.

01:20:43.000 It's 50% of your net worth.

01:20:45.000 How would someone like Elon Musk do that when he's got his money's tied up in as much as there's stock that he has?

01:20:52.000 He owns all of the rockets that SpaceX owns.

01:20:55.000 He owns all of the satellites.

01:20:57.000 How do you liquidate satellites?

01:21:00.000 What process do you do to do that?

01:21:01.000 I mean, I get 50% of one Tesla.

01:21:04.000 Yeah, you get half a car.

01:21:05.000 Yeah.

01:21:06.000 You get the front half, though.

01:21:07.000 I don't know enough about business to really know, but I would think you would start a company that you would run at a loss on purpose and make it lose you 50 billion.

01:21:16.000 And then you're like, see, I'm not worth so much, right?

01:21:18.000 That's Hollywood.

01:21:19.000 That's Hollywood math right there.

01:21:21.000 That's Hollywood math.

01:21:22.000 Yeah.

01:21:23.000 But again, these types of policies are popular on the left now.

01:21:26.000 You know, the idea that a senator, I think Bernie Sanders is on, of course, Bernie Sanders is on board with it.

01:21:32.000 But that kind of idea used to be so just outside of the Overton window.

01:21:37.000 And people on the right, they are getting a little more extreme.

01:21:40.000 The idea that you can say, hey, we want to deport all illegals, right? 1.00

01:21:44.000 We don't want amnesty.

01:21:46.000 We want to get rid of people that are here illegally. 1.00

01:21:48.000 That's a little further right than was acceptable, you know, say five, 10 years ago.

01:21:52.000 Well, I mean, even we, how often does immigration and deportations come up and they find the old videos of Obama saying like, you can't just come here.

01:22:02.000 You can't just come here and expect to exist, right?

01:22:06.000 You're going to have to pay the piper if you want to do that.

01:22:08.000 We're going to either send you back or whatever's going to happen.

01:22:11.000 Like those views aren't all that different for most of us, but most people have memory hold it so fast that they don't realize how much things have changed.

01:22:18.000 Like it wasn't a border wall.

01:22:20.000 It was a border fence that they talked about back then.

01:22:23.000 So like for me specifically, as somebody who still considers himself to have quite a few fairly liberal positions economically, I don't look at the right as if they like small government anymore, anyways.

01:22:35.000 Trump loves to spend money.

01:22:36.000 They love to build the deficit.

01:22:38.000 That's something that's actually more popular on the right as well.

01:22:42.000 The idea of the libertarian right is a shrinking portion of the electorate now.

01:22:49.000 I mean, they were never all that big in particular, but they really have kind of dwindled down in numbers.

01:22:55.000 There's not a lot of people that are like, oh, let's really, really constrain the government.

01:22:59.000 There are a lot more people nowadays that are like, all right, we're right-wing, but we want to use the government to enforce our policies and to push our agenda.

01:23:09.000 And to be honest with you, as much as I used to be a libertarian, I think that because of the world that we live in, you have to use the power that you're given when you're elected, right?

01:23:19.000 The voting population votes.

01:23:21.000 They don't vote for you to just not do anything.

01:23:23.000 They don't vote for you to just stop the Democrats.

01:23:26.000 They vote for you to do things and deliver for them.

01:23:28.000 I don't think that when it comes to the right, they're looking for policies that would be considered handouts or government programs, but I do think they want to see the government exercise power that they have in favor of policies that they like.

01:23:43.000 I think to your earlier question about are people so one issue-minded that it would be hard to even have a two-term presidency.

01:23:52.000 I think we are in something unique in history, which is America as a country has gone through a period of incredible disillusionment.

01:24:03.000 For example, freedom of speech, right?

01:24:04.000 When I was growing up, up until 2020, freedom of speech was seen as sanctuariesanct.

01:24:09.000 And then suddenly everybody's getting canceled for speech crimes.

01:24:14.000 And most of those crimes that you're getting canceled for was actually being accurate about the truth and the science and about the pandemic, right?

01:24:22.000 And so ultimately, and that's just piled on, right?

01:24:27.000 And now, you know, it used to be like real conspiracy theory land to think that RFK Jr. was, excuse me, John F. Kennedy was assassinated by like a conspiratorial plot.

01:24:41.000 And now we're like, yeah, it looks like it was our intelligence agencies, right?

01:24:45.000 And that's mainstream.

01:24:46.000 And so what's happening is we're becoming disillusioned over one thing after another so that the institutions that were seen to be trustworthy, like the USDA, when I was in sixth grade, I mean, we'd see films about how the USDA had come and made our food supply safe.

01:25:02.000 And there was a huge level of trust I think Americans had in our institutions that has really been shattered over the last five to six years.

01:25:11.000 And people are now figuring out how do we really arrive at the truth and move forward.

01:25:16.000 And so the good thing about that is we're so much more aware.

01:25:20.000 And we're very aware now on issues of big pharma and the stuff that I'm focused on, on really medical science misinformation and false science put out in order to advance the interests of really big corporate interests that are putting out products that are harmful to people.

01:25:40.000 So the awakening has been very important.

01:25:42.000 But I think the flip side of it is that we can become too simplistic in jumping to our conclusions, right?

01:25:49.000 We can, like glyphosate.

01:25:51.000 One of the best articles written explaining what went on with Trump's executive order on glyphosate was written by a woman, Dr. Sherry Tenpenny.

01:25:59.000 Okay, now Dr. Sherry Tenpenny has been at the forefront of Maha, at the forefront of warning about all of the things that seemed like conspiracy theories at first that turned out to be totally true.

01:26:11.000 And she's able to do that because of her medical expertise. 0.98

01:26:13.000 So when she comes out saying, hey, Maha, don't get bent out of shape over this.

01:26:17.000 This is more complex because of our dependency on glyphosate, right?

01:26:23.000 We don't just, you know, this is a, we're in a, we're in a fix now that we got to slowly extract from, right?

01:26:29.000 So, but, but I really appreciate that kind of nuanced, nuanced analysis because these things are more complex.

01:26:39.000 I feel like that with the Epstein stuff.

01:26:40.000 Like, whereas with glyphosate, if we just flat out removed it from the supply overnight, we'd probably have to see a famine, perhaps starvation.

01:26:46.000 Maybe she's concerned with that disruption.

01:26:48.000 Same thing with Epstein.

01:26:49.000 I feel like if it was released and you really knew what was going on, global order could shatter.

01:26:54.000 People would, alliances would break, missiles would fly.

01:26:56.000 You told her that what to me and I, I'm a billionaire.

01:26:59.000 How dare now I'm in like, you got to, the systems, you know, think in terms of systems as opposed to points within it.

01:27:08.000 Yeah.

01:27:09.000 We're going to jump to this story from Fox News.

01:27:09.000 All right.

01:27:12.000 Okay.

01:27:13.000 God is non-binary. 0.95

01:27:14.000 Texas Demon nominee Tallarico's past remarks on abortion, race, and gender draw scrutiny.

01:27:20.000 If you have gone to his ex page and looked at anything 2020 or previous, it is a treasure trove of basically memeable stuff.

01:27:29.000 From Fox News, while running as a moderate with bipartisan appeal, Texas state rep James Tallarico, who defeated rep Jasmine Crockett for the Democratic Senate nomination, has a history of making controversial statements on matters of race, religion, gender, border security, and beyond.

01:27:45.000 With Tallarico in the national spotlight for the first time, many commentators and strategists are resurfacing some of his past remarks.

01:27:51.000 Among them is a 2021 video of Tallarico at the Texas House floor in Austin opposing a bill to ban men from women's sports and claiming that God is non-binary.

01:27:59.000 God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between.

01:28:02.000 God is non-binary, said Tallarico, adding, trans children are God's children made in God's own image.

01:28:08.000 A self-identified Presbyterian seminarian, Tallarico cast many of his political stances in the Christian and biblical language.

01:28:14.000 However, while speaking on a January episode of the Esler Klein show, Tallarico appeared to equate Christianity with other religions, including Hinduism and Islam.

01:28:23.000 I believe that Jesus Christ reveals that reality to us, but I also believe that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways with their own simple structures.

01:28:32.000 And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism, Hinduism, and Islam and Judaism.

01:28:37.000 And so I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos, he said.

01:28:43.000 He's not a Christian. 1.00

01:28:44.000 Yeah, I don't think.

01:28:46.000 It's sort of like religious relativism.

01:28:49.000 Yeah, it is.

01:28:50.000 It is definitely relativism.

01:28:52.000 I identify with it.

01:28:53.000 I'm agnostic generally.

01:28:55.000 I enjoy good things from different cultures and religions and faith, but I would never call myself a Christian.

01:29:00.000 I mean, what a debasement and devalument of the religion to claim that I am if I don't truly believe it.

01:29:05.000 Yeah, I mean, look, you can have your own opinion on religion.

01:29:10.000 You can have your own opinion on other religions.

01:29:12.000 You can have your own type of understanding of spirituality and stuff.

01:29:18.000 But if you're going to call yourself a Presbyterian, you probably should take the tenets of that religion seriously.

01:29:27.000 Otherwise, you're just not serious about religion, which again is fine.

01:29:30.000 But when you try to pass yourself off as a Presbyterian minister, I think he said they said he was.

01:29:36.000 Oh, is he actually, so he actually Presbyterianism?

01:29:37.000 I think so.

01:29:38.000 I always say that.

01:29:39.000 He's a seminary.

01:29:40.000 I tend to be, you know, unless you are somebody who is deeply into your religion, politicians being religious always feels a lot of time as if it's something that they put on as part of their voter demographic, depending on, you know, their party and stuff like that.

01:29:54.000 Yeah, so a seminarian means that he's gone to school about it.

01:29:57.000 He's got to have an understanding of the theology.

01:30:00.000 He also, he's got to be wrong because I was reliably told by Ariana Grande that God was a woman.

01:30:05.000 You were.

01:30:06.000 She might be right about it.

01:30:07.000 She might be right.

01:30:08.000 You can be two things could contradict and both be true when it comes to the spirit realm.

01:30:12.000 It's wild.

01:30:13.000 You definitely can't be Presbyterian and also Hinduist. 0.81

01:30:18.000 Yeah.

01:30:19.000 I mean, these things are, there are things in certain religions that are exclusionary of other religions.

01:30:26.000 Like, you can't be a Christian and say, oh, you know, the Hindus got some stuff right when it comes to spirituality.

01:30:32.000 Like, the basic tenet of being a Christian, whatever your denomination is, you believe that Christ is the Son of God and that he died and was resurrected and that was like the payment for sin. 0.82

01:30:43.000 That's how human beings, that all human beings are fallible, all man sins, and Christ paid the ultimate price for your sins, right?

01:30:51.000 If you don't believe that, or you believe something in addition to that or whatever, you're not actually a Christian. 0.50

01:30:58.000 I will counter a little bit because I think that Christianity in the beginning was an amalgamation of different beliefs, like different stories, and then they created a unified story.

01:31:08.000 So like we could do that with all the religions of earth to create a new religion.

01:31:13.000 You are welcome to believe that, but Christians don't. 1.00

01:31:16.000 Well, they've compiled a bunch of books.

01:31:17.000 And I'm not a theologian.

01:31:19.000 Like I said, the only point that I'm making, like I said earlier, like people can have their different opinions on religion.

01:31:25.000 But if you believe, if you call yourself a Christian, that's what you're saying. 0.83

01:31:30.000 You're saying, I believe these things, and I don't believe these other things.

01:31:33.000 They are exclusionary.

01:31:35.000 So you can have whatever belief you want.

01:31:36.000 And I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't.

01:31:39.000 But what I am saying is that you no longer are Christian once you add these other things into it. 0.94

01:31:44.000 You become something else because there are religions that are exclusionary.

01:31:49.000 If you're a Muslim, you believe that Muhammad is God's last prophet. 0.92

01:31:54.000 If you add anything else to it, you are no longer an actual Muslim. 1.00

01:31:58.000 You don't believe in Islam. 1.00

01:32:00.000 You believe that Muhammad was the perfect man and the things that Muhammad said were actually true. 0.99

01:32:05.000 And if you say, well, Muhammad was wrong on something, well, then you're not actually a Muslim.

01:32:09.000 You believe something other than Islam. 1.00

01:32:12.000 And that is an exclusive ideology.

01:32:16.000 Anything else means that you don't believe that thing.

01:32:20.000 You know, the most depressing part about politics is it turns existential and theological discussions into a total bummer.

01:32:29.000 This isn't my wheelhouse, but I know that this dude is like, this is the worst of the worst when it comes to having to have these discussions, right?

01:32:36.000 Because it's like, I can listen to what he has to say, know that he's ideologically captured.

01:32:42.000 If not, if he doesn't believe it himself, he's ideologically captured by whoever his potential voting base is.

01:32:48.000 I don't know if he's at a woman's summit in that photo, but it's all women behind him in that photo. 0.93

01:32:53.000 And it really does turn these types of discussions, which 15 years ago with your friends might have been interesting.

01:32:59.000 Now it's all a basis of finding political power.

01:33:02.000 That's just a bummer.

01:33:03.000 And I mean, that's really where these kind of debates belong, right?

01:33:06.000 They belong, they're theological, theological debates, and you can have theological debates with your friends.

01:33:11.000 You can talk about that amongst yourselves, or you can go to debate philosophy and stuff.

01:33:19.000 But when you're taking an established religion and wearing it like a skin suit and saying, oh, well, I kind of believe these things, but in front of this crowd, I'm going to say things like God is non-binary, which is completely not true, right? 0.94

01:33:35.000 Like the idea of God being non-binary, God is pretty clear about what God is. 0.73

01:33:40.000 Just because God made women doesn't mean God is a woman or God isn't both. 0.98

01:33:47.000 Then you're wrong, Ariana Grande.

01:33:48.000 She said, exactly.

01:33:49.000 God is a woman. 1.00

01:33:51.000 But yeah, like these religions have a serious history and they have an understanding of themselves that Tallarico is just basically using in a way to attract votes.

01:34:08.000 For the record, he earned his Master of Divinity degree from Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary.

01:34:15.000 Yeah.

01:34:16.000 So he is a Master of Divinity.

01:34:18.000 He's the one, if I remember correctly.

01:34:19.000 He is the Master of Divinity.

01:34:21.000 He's the one, if I remember correctly, that was involved in like on late night TV, and they didn't give Jasmine Crockett the same amount at times.

01:34:27.000 So there was a segment pulled.

01:34:29.000 He's the guy that got it over Crockett.

01:34:31.000 And now Jasmine Crockett blaming Republicans for cheating. 0.99

01:34:34.000 So literally, there's an equal time rule where if he gets time on one of the night shows, Jasmine Crockett is supposed to get an equal amount of time.

01:34:43.000 She didn't get that time, and now she's decided she's going to blame Republicans for the cheating, even though it was clear that it was Tallarico and I think it was Jimmy Kimmel.

01:34:51.000 Colbert.

01:34:52.000 Tallico and Colbert.

01:34:52.000 Colbert.

01:34:53.000 Yeah, they kind of colluded to make it seem like, oh, look, Trump's out to get this interview.

01:34:59.000 We couldn't even show it on TV.

01:35:00.000 So we have to give it to you on YouTube.

01:35:01.000 So it bypasses all the FCC rules, FCC.

01:35:05.000 They also haven't enforced those rules in ages.

01:35:09.000 And look, you know, Jasmine Crockett was kind of a clown show anyways. 1.00

01:35:13.000 Her first video ad when she announced her campaign was just her in the center of a room and kind of spinning. 0.94

01:35:22.000 And like it was interposed with all these clips of Donald Trump just saying that she's low IQ.

01:35:27.000 Like that is the worst advertisement that I could possibly imagine. 0.84

01:35:31.000 It's like, oh, Donald Trump says you're low IQ. 0.98

01:35:33.000 Donald Trump says you're low IQ. 0.98

01:35:35.000 Just over and over. 0.99

01:35:36.000 The current president of the United States calling you a dummy and you think that that is a good advertisement.

01:35:43.000 What you're doing is proving that the president is right.

01:35:46.000 You know, I'm doing a quick look too here at the focus and the emphases of the seminary here, according to ChatGPT.

01:35:54.000 And so what we're finding is Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary, you know, it's described here as emphasizing ministers who are preparing to engage in justice, inclusion, and community service.

01:36:05.000 So a big social justice emphasis and inclusivity, affirming stance on LGBTQ and inclusion and ordination, right?

01:36:14.000 So we're talking about bringing in that group into actually ordained pastoral roles and supporting the full participation of this community in church leadership.

01:36:25.000 Right.

01:36:26.000 And then interfaith engagement, like we saw with the Hinduism and all that.

01:36:29.000 So this would really represent, you know, it's kind of interesting.

01:36:33.000 Actually, I went to seminary.

01:36:34.000 I've got a master's in the history of Christian thought from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School.

01:36:39.000 And one of the things I was very interested in were the movements in the early 20th century among the liberal theological liberalizers.

01:36:53.000 And it's really very much like what we're seeing today.

01:36:55.000 And this is a manifestation of it, of wanting to drop all the things that might be, say, offensive about the religion or maybe offensive to some modern views of science.

01:37:08.000 You know, it's really interesting where things have gone on that because people are much more open to the ideas of the supernatural and miracles and things today than they were just 30, 40 years ago.

01:37:17.000 But when you go back, you see how they were trying to adapt to those trends in their society and to say, well, let's get away from the idea of miracles.

01:37:27.000 Was Jesus really born of a virgin birth?

01:37:30.000 Did he really walk over all these things?

01:37:32.000 These are myths and stuff.

01:37:33.000 And then what you do instead is you focus on things like social justice or the good things that the religion could do because you no longer really have any more actual historical or symbolic content, right?

01:37:48.000 And so I think this is what we're seeing here with Tellarico: that's just an extension of that.

01:37:54.000 And so now we have full DEI and religion.

01:37:56.000 And just as we were looking at it in video gaming or film or everything else, it's not appealing to very many people.

01:38:05.000 And this is exactly what happened with the mainstream denominations: the more they went this direction, the more they lost interest because either Christianity is true or it's not.

01:38:12.000 So they're trying to justify faith kind of using science because they don't believe it anymore.

01:38:18.000 And now they're coming up with like these different various DEI type beat things to weave in there to kind of replace what they now think is like mythologic.

01:38:30.000 Yes, if you go back to the 1920s in particular, there was a movement because science showed that nature was just an unbroken chain of cause and effect.

01:38:38.000 There was a big move away that miracles could even be a real thing, right?

01:38:42.000 God didn't intervene, right?

01:38:44.000 And so, well, what do you do if you're going to try and be a Christian, but you no longer believe God intervenes, right?

01:38:49.000 Well, the only thing you can push towards is, well, let's do good things in society.

01:38:52.000 Let's be on this good cause or that good cause.

01:38:57.000 And this, in a lot of ways, is an extension of that.

01:38:59.000 And the connection there is with Presbyterian Church USA, which was a very big part of that movement at that period of time.

01:39:06.000 Why do you think it is that people are more open to the supernatural and miracles now than they were before?

01:39:11.000 Wow, that's a great question.

01:39:13.000 I think it's for a number of reasons.

01:39:15.000 For one thing, I actually think the broader community, easier access of communication that we have, I mean, there's much more open discussion.

01:39:24.000 And so it's much easier just to talk about taboo subjects, right?

01:39:30.000 Whereas before you go back to the 1980s, just people didn't talk about these things.

01:39:35.000 Even in, say, like a church Bible study, if you were reading a passage where Jesus heals, you know, it'd be some brave person to say, hey, have you who's had answers to healing?

01:39:44.000 You know, a prayer for healing.

01:39:46.000 And then suddenly all these people would start talking about it.

01:39:48.000 But even in church settings, they didn't always feel comfortable talking about some things sometimes because they felt like it's just, this is really out there.

01:39:56.000 It's very marginal, right?

01:39:58.000 And that just goes to show about how common cultural values really start shaping what people feel free to talk about.

01:40:03.000 I also think going back to there's a fantastic video of a presentation at Oxford by a scholar named Craig Keener.

01:40:15.000 And he did a two-volume series back in 2014.

01:40:18.000 And this, I think, really does get to your question.

01:40:20.000 So 2014 was a turning point when scholarship in universities in certain niche fields like science and religion started saying, is there more to the reports of miracles than we've been given credit coming from our scientistic background.

01:40:37.000 And so Craig Keener at Oxford in 2014 gives this incredible synopsis of what he had found in, it was at the Ian Ramsey Center.

01:40:49.000 And anybody can Google it.

01:40:51.000 It's an hour of amazing documentation where he went around the world because his wife's African.

01:40:56.000 And he said, you know, their family had stories of miracles that were just mind-blowing.

01:41:00.000 And so he wanted to see, he's a New Testament scholar.

01:41:03.000 So he wanted to learn more about this.

01:41:05.000 And he really went around the world gathering like scientific level quality testimonies of actual miracles.

01:41:13.000 And so then that led following to Eric Metaxas picked up on that and wrote a fantastic book called Miracles.

01:41:20.000 And I think it's really grown since then.

01:41:22.000 There's been some high-powered academics in this field.

01:41:27.000 Candice Brown, I think she's at the University of Indiana, took this subject up and they took it up seriously, right?

01:41:34.000 To say, what are people really reporting in their experience of answered prayer?

01:41:40.000 And now we've seen things like a person like Lee Strobel appearing on Tucker Carlson's show.

01:41:46.000 I mean, it's gone really, that momentum has really moved where people are asking these questions openly.

01:41:52.000 What I was thinking about systems, I mentioned systems earlier.

01:41:54.000 Like people are like, I want, if we get rid of glyphosate, it'll fix.

01:41:57.000 You know, how come my cause isn't creating the effect I expect?

01:42:00.000 Miracles can't happen because what's, but you realize like systems, we're in a larger system than we can perceive.

01:42:07.000 And there may be a cause outside of human perception or unmeasurable with current tools that's prayer may be doing, I mean, that's my personal take on it.

01:42:16.000 Very much the interconnected nature of the fabric of reality is apparent at this point.

01:42:21.000 I mean, if you study space-time and you've watched Nassim Harriman's stuff on the source child proton, you know that we're in this like web of density that's interconnected, you know, interfering with itself at the speed of light, transmitting information.

01:42:32.000 So I'm all on board.

01:42:34.000 But I didn't learn that until internet video.

01:42:35.000 Before internet video, I was very skeptical about all of it until I saw some evidence of like, what the bleep do we know?

01:42:41.000 Remember that kind of cheesy documentary that came out about quantum physics?

01:42:43.000 It was quantum physics.

01:42:44.000 You know, that was my first answer to your question, Brett.

01:42:46.000 This is my take on it.

01:42:47.000 Why are people more open to supernatural?

01:42:48.000 Because quantum physics.

01:42:49.000 And then the mainstreaming of quantum physics in 2007 through the internet video and all the thousands of people now talking about prayer, but their own version of it.

01:42:59.000 It's an exciting time to go.

01:43:00.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a great point.

01:43:01.000 When you go from a worldview where you just think everything's like a mechanistic system, which goes back to the philosopher Descartes, right?

01:43:08.000 But the idea is everything's a mechanistic system and there's no room for anything but the gears, right?

01:43:13.000 And then you switch from that to understanding quantum physics, and now you have a very believable, I'm going to say, platform through which a omniscient, omnipotent being could very easily interact and engage our universe.

01:43:28.000 Yeah.

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01:44:04.000 Let's see here.

01:44:04.000 I'm going to make this a little bigger.

01:44:07.000 Enlarging it.

01:44:08.000 Yeah, enlarging it.

01:44:09.000 Hi, Tim.

01:44:10.000 You made, let's see, what's that?

01:44:11.000 Dorsey is 79 says, hi, Tim.

01:44:13.000 You made cameos in Skybrows videos with your fake band, The Shadow Band, in Million Amelia's, Joe's Rogane, Homestone Lone 2, and NVIDIA F you Up.

01:44:24.000 Yeah.

01:44:26.000 I'll be watching these at 4 a.m. before work.

01:44:28.000 Good night, everyone.

01:44:29.000 Yeah, those are really cool.

01:44:30.000 The AI videos that are created with, and I think the songs themselves are actually AI as well.

01:44:35.000 But he's pretty talented.

01:44:37.000 He knows how to prompt an AI, definitely.

01:44:39.000 So Wolf374171 says, I don't remember anyone calling for Gnome to be fired, but okay, I guess.

01:44:48.000 How about an actual problem named Bondi?

01:44:51.000 Yeah, I think that that's a very popular take.

01:44:54.000 People would like to see Pam Bondi taken out. 1.00

01:44:57.000 But again, I think that it comes back to the situation of who is actually going to get confirmed by the Senate.

01:45:02.000 There's a lot of people say, you know, we got to fire this person.

01:45:05.000 We got to fire this person because they're not producing the results we want and we like.

01:45:09.000 And whereas I agree with the sentiment, they're not producing the results that we were looking for.

01:45:15.000 It also has to be a person replacing them that will realistically get confirmed by the Senate.

01:45:20.000 And considering there's a boatload of appointments that still haven't been confirmed, I don't know that there are a lot of people on a list of people that would actually be able to get the job that we get approved by the Senate.

01:45:31.000 Maybe he'll just challenge all of them to a fight.

01:45:34.000 And if he beats all of them, he gets confirmed.

01:45:36.000 I mean, it would be cool, wouldn't it?

01:45:37.000 It'd be awesome.

01:45:38.000 It'd be far more interesting than sitting there watching them, you know, pontificate to get clips for YouTube or whatever.

01:45:45.000 I just love that he had like the tweets on a big sheet of paper when they were like threatening each other.

01:45:51.000 He's like, actually, for a second, you said this.

01:45:53.000 Why are you following me, bro?

01:45:54.000 In your follow-up tweet.

01:45:56.000 Yeah.

01:45:57.000 S guest says, per tradition, I'm watching from the hospital after my wife gave birth to our third child, a baby girl.

01:46:03.000 Congratulations.

01:46:05.000 Love to hear it.

01:46:07.000 We need more babies. 1.00

01:46:09.000 Let's see.

01:46:10.000 That one gamer says, Phil's being too nice to Pam Bondi.

01:46:12.000 Her behavior at the hearing was atrocious.

01:46:14.000 She made the whole admin look bad. 1.00

01:46:16.000 Look, you can be totally right about that, but what I said about getting someone to replace her is still true.

01:46:21.000 Like, I know people hate to think about how the sausage is made in Washington, right?

01:46:26.000 Like, everybody likes to say, just do this, just do that.

01:46:29.000 But there are so many processes and procedures that have to be gone through when you're doing anything in D.C.

01:46:35.000 This is part of why people get so frustrated with D.C., part of why things happen so slowly, because there is a process and a procedure for basically everything that happens in D.C.

01:46:45.000 And all of them are designed to slow things down.

01:46:49.000 Nobody wants D.C. moving fast because then you'll end up having you'll end up having changes that are detrimental and they won't be well thought through.

01:47:01.000 The House is only two years for a reason because the population will have their opinions will sway depending on what's going on.

01:47:08.000 So you have the House to represent the people.

01:47:10.000 They only get two years, but the Senate is six years and that's supposed to be more deliberative. 0.89

01:47:14.000 And that was part of the design. 0.99

01:47:17.000 The federal government isn't supposed to do all the crap that it does.

01:47:19.000 And so I get, you know, when you're starting to pull stuff out, you want it to happen fast so that way we can get rid of all the bureaucracy and stuff.

01:47:25.000 And I agree completely, but it doesn't change the fact that the way that the government, the federal government is structured is intended to move slow because it's not supposed to be able to do 90% of the stuff that it does.

01:47:36.000 It also feels like that's all kind of gone out the window because the Supreme Court is very much politicized now in a way that it never was before, or at least that it shouldn't have been before, right?

01:47:47.000 When we got our last cat that we bought from this lady, she's, you know, she had like tons of cats that she, you know, kept and helped whatever. 0.98

01:47:59.000 She wasn't like a, I think she was a business owner or whatever, but she had a sticker on the back of her car that said pack the courts. 1.00

01:48:05.000 Yeah.

01:48:07.000 And for people that are unfamiliar, that means get, expand the court and put more people on that agree with you.

01:48:14.000 And I mean, if you, if you do that, you're going to end up with like a 20-person court, and it's going to be just, it's going to be just another political tool.

01:48:21.000 And there are people that are going to say, well, you know, Thomas is so conservative and he's ideologically motivated.

01:48:25.000 And there are people that are going to say, well, Jackson is so politically motivated and et cetera, et cetera.

01:48:31.000 And it's like, yeah, that's the truth.

01:48:34.000 But this is the system that we got.

01:48:35.000 And just adding people to the court isn't going to fix anything because when the other team gets in power, they're just going to go ahead and add more people.

01:48:42.000 And it's just going to be a never-ending expansion of the court.

01:48:46.000 And then it'll be a situation where the court doesn't have any authority or nobody trusts it as it is.

01:48:52.000 So let's see from Michelle Moon.

01:48:56.000 Or wait a minute.

01:48:58.000 From Rainbow to you, check out Chris Webby's Raw Thought Chris Rebby's Raw Thoughts 6 or 7.

01:49:06.000 It's fire.

01:49:07.000 Okay, we'll check that out.

01:49:09.000 Chris Webby's Raw Thoughts.

01:49:11.000 Let's see.

01:49:12.000 Everybody, welcome.

01:49:13.000 My first son, Monty, born in an ambulance and ready to listen to Timcast.

01:49:16.000 All right.

01:49:18.000 Case in point.

01:49:19.000 Monteban.

01:49:21.000 I'm just wondering.

01:49:22.000 Yeah, Monty.

01:49:22.000 Monty?

01:49:23.000 What is that?

01:49:24.000 Like, is it Monteban or Montgomery?

01:49:27.000 Montgomery.

01:49:28.000 I think it's Montgomery.

01:49:29.000 Monty.

01:49:29.000 Let's look at it.

01:49:30.000 I feel like I have to say this also.

01:49:32.000 Before Tim left, he did put up a poll that says, if we don't get 50 teal super chats, Ian will sing.

01:49:41.000 So 21 out of 50.

01:49:43.000 Pin me to the wall on that one.

01:49:44.000 I kind of did.

01:49:45.000 I was hesitant to bring it up, but people have been saying, you know, it's sad because people want to hear me sing and feel like they can't super chat.

01:49:51.000 You can still super chat.

01:49:52.000 If you get 50, he won't sing.

01:49:54.000 That's what they say.

01:49:55.000 Well, actually.

01:49:56.000 Too confusing.

01:49:59.000 Or else he should have just said don't super chat.

01:50:02.000 Oh, no.

01:50:03.000 He's banking on the fact that you hate me.

01:50:04.000 You got to prove him wrong.

01:50:05.000 So it's exactly right.

01:50:07.000 So don't super chat, but that's no, no, no.

01:50:09.000 Super chat.

01:50:10.000 Super chat.

01:50:10.000 See, I'm selfless.

01:50:11.000 Super chat.

01:50:12.000 Michelle Moon says, Michelle Moon says, I like when he sings, but not when he takes the debate off topic constantly.

01:50:18.000 You get a little bit of love and a little bit of criticism.

01:50:20.000 I do the weave.

01:50:20.000 Okay, I'm going to defend myself.

01:50:21.000 I'm like Trump, bro.

01:50:22.000 I will change the topic slightly, tangent out, wrap around, come back in, and then bring it back to what we're talking about.

01:50:27.000 But if I get cut off partway through, it just seems like I'm making no sense.

01:50:30.000 So a lot of times this show moves so fast that my long ideas get snapped.

01:50:36.000 Let's start a show called Derailed, where the whole point is to get as far away from the topic as possible.

01:50:41.000 I just start with one thing.

01:50:42.000 That's what I want.

01:50:43.000 The whole point for me is like, I like the idea of the initial thought.

01:50:47.000 And then because my brain is so messy, I just want to go wherever my brain goes.

01:50:51.000 I actually think derailed is a good idea.

01:50:53.000 What if it's called re-railed?

01:50:55.000 Too esoteric?

01:50:56.000 We should stick with derailed.

01:50:57.000 That's the hot term.

01:50:58.000 There you go.

01:50:59.000 Let's see.

01:51:02.000 K.S. Corey says, mutual combat in Congress.

01:51:05.000 We can charge Chavue and put it towards our debt.

01:51:07.000 I mean, I like the idea.

01:51:09.000 I know that if you give money to Congress, they're not going to put it towards the debt.

01:51:12.000 They're going to put it into the slush fund that they use to protect their criminal activities.

01:51:18.000 And give themselves a raise.

01:51:19.000 Which is a real thing, by the way.

01:51:19.000 Yeah.

01:51:21.000 They have a slush fund that they use to defend themselves from sexual allegations and stuff.

01:51:25.000 Look it up, I promise.

01:51:28.000 Peter Gohawk says, there's no mutual combat law in Washington, D.C., but we all know America wants to see it.

01:51:34.000 Throw it on pay-per-view and help the homeless that want help.

01:51:38.000 We don't need pay-per-view.

01:51:40.000 Trump is close with the Ellisons.

01:51:41.000 The Ellisons have Paramount.

01:51:43.000 Paramount has the UFC.

01:51:44.000 We will get this branded and we will put that out there for the American people.

01:51:47.000 American Fight Night.

01:51:49.000 I bet that what's his name, the guy that runs the UFC, would be into it.

01:51:53.000 Dani White?

01:51:53.000 Yeah, Dan White.

01:51:57.000 Not a bot says the liberals are the liberals see orcs and say, Yep, that's a black person.

01:52:02.000 They did it in DD too.

01:52:03.000 Yeah, I mean, that is kind of the way that they kind of behave.

01:52:07.000 They say, Oh, look, the people that created this are so racist.

01:52:10.000 They're saying that these people, these orcs are black people, and that's that's not the case.

01:52:14.000 Did you play DD ever?

01:52:16.000 I did, yeah.

01:52:16.000 I never thought orcs were black people ever.

01:52:19.000 For 20 years, I played that game and never even thought maybe that was a thing.

01:52:23.000 That's because you thought they were orcs.

01:52:24.000 They're orcs.

01:52:25.000 They're orcs and they're dwarves. 1.00

01:52:26.000 They're just fantasy creatures.

01:52:28.000 It's one of those.

01:52:28.000 I don't know.

01:52:29.000 Every accusation is a confession.

01:52:31.000 It is.

01:52:32.000 So he's got at that point.

01:52:34.000 Let's see.

01:52:35.000 Ian's got that jungle heat.

01:52:38.000 Go get your chocolate princess. 0.99

01:52:41.000 Yeah, I mean, we'll be shit differently. 0.98

01:52:42.000 You did say they were erotic. 0.98

01:52:44.000 Yeah.

01:52:45.000 I will not take that one back.

01:52:46.000 You let the cat out of the bag there, Ian.

01:52:48.000 Say again?

01:52:49.000 You let the cat out of the bag there.

01:52:50.000 I've never been to Africa, but I'm.

01:52:51.000 You got that fever?

01:52:52.000 Oh, yeah, dude.

01:52:55.000 Let's go.

01:52:55.000 Yellow fever.

01:52:56.000 No, it's not.

01:52:57.000 It's a nail down the river, baby.

01:52:59.000 It's a different fever.

01:52:59.000 Take me to the Nile.

01:53:01.000 Let's see.

01:53:02.000 Moving on.

01:53:04.000 Wolf374171.

01:53:07.000 I don't even know why I say the numbers. 1.00

01:53:08.000 If your response to the spicy group chat is anything other than I want to get a beer with those guys, you're a joyless dork. 0.94

01:53:14.000 I mean, look, some of the stuff they said, you might not want to admit that you want to get a beer with them, considering, you know, it was pretty uncouth. 0.93

01:53:23.000 It was definitely stuff that you don't want people to know you said.

01:53:26.000 Some of those people could 110% mean that.

01:53:29.000 Some of the other ones could just be, you know, going along because that's the vibe of the room.

01:53:34.000 I guess it depends on how joyless you are in the conversation are you having. 0.99

01:53:37.000 Are you going to talk about it and laugh about the stupidity of it? 0.99

01:53:40.000 Are you going to talk about the expediency of getting caught saying stuff like that when you're trying to supposedly make things happen for your party? 1.00

01:53:48.000 Let's see.

01:53:49.000 Mr. Juice No says, Ian, my graphene stock is up 5,800%.

01:53:56.000 $900 initial buy-in worth $60K right now.

01:54:00.000 You the man.

01:54:01.000 Dude, it's not.

01:54:02.000 Thank Andreas Nicholas for telling me about graphene.

01:54:04.000 Yeah, my graphene stocks are up, up, up.

01:54:07.000 And it's just getting started as far as I can tell.

01:54:09.000 2029 is, you're going to see peak graphene.

01:54:11.000 This is not financial advice, but you know.

01:54:13.000 It's just, I've just noticed these graphene's coming.

01:54:15.000 Graphene's huge and graphene stocks are up.

01:54:18.000 There you go.

01:54:19.000 Let's see.

01:54:21.000 Core Ninja says, check out different breed TV.

01:54:24.000 He covers Ukraine and I served with him in the International Battalion Azov.

01:54:28.000 Shout out to Vegas from your boys, Marcos.

01:54:31.000 Azov battalion members in Tim Cash chat.

01:54:31.000 Oh, there you go.

01:54:35.000 What do you know?

01:54:37.000 What a guy says, can't believe Trump fired Noam before Pam Bondi. 0.92

01:54:40.000 She's such a wet. 1.00

01:54:42.000 Okay.

01:54:42.000 A wet?

01:54:43.000 I think she is part of Quid Pro quo for Trump to receive campaign support.

01:54:46.000 Boo.

01:54:47.000 Look, I know that there's a lot of people that share your sentiment.

01:54:50.000 Pam Bondi has left a lot of people with a bad taste in their mouth.

01:54:54.000 They're not happy with her performance.

01:54:56.000 But again, you can't get rid of her without having someone to replace her. 0.72

01:54:59.000 And at this point, it doesn't look like it's going to be very easy for Trump to get confirmations for any of his appointments.

01:55:04.000 Now, Christy Niln can dress up like an unemployed person instead of somebody with In Spec Ops. 1.00

01:55:09.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:55:10.000 She can just throw on a Moomu or just wear sweatpants all the time. 1.00

01:55:14.000 She can't go to the airport like that, though.

01:55:17.000 I heard that was a fake story about the Tampa airport pajamas.

01:55:20.000 Apparently, the Tampa airport likes to put troll posts out.

01:55:23.000 Wait, that was fake?

01:55:24.000 Yeah.

01:55:24.000 That's even better, honestly.

01:55:26.000 The fact that I got to defend my position on that for like 30 minutes for a fake story is kind of the greatest thing ever.

01:55:33.000 Maybe fake, but it was true in my heart.

01:55:35.000 Well, you see the one today about how it was like United's now requiring you to put headphones in.

01:55:35.000 In my heart.

01:55:41.000 You can't just play your freaking music. 0.98

01:55:43.000 That's amazing. 0.99

01:55:43.000 As if that shouldn't have been. 0.99

01:55:44.000 And I said, I said, like, I have to defend your right to wear sweatpants to the airport, but they just now make it a law that you have to wear your headphones.

01:55:53.000 Yeah, you definitely should not be walking around the airport with your music playing on your phone.

01:55:59.000 And you shouldn't be talking on your phone like this, hollering.

01:56:02.000 Take the speakerphone off.

01:56:03.000 Take a page out of the Japanese people's book. 0.99

01:56:06.000 Be very discreet.

01:56:08.000 Be quiet when you're in public places.

01:56:10.000 That's one of the numerous wonderful things about Japan.

01:56:13.000 They're all very polite and very quiet.

01:56:15.000 They're not trying to, you know, be super loud and annoy everybody.

01:56:20.000 Chain Swarm 3 says, Wow is made by woke women for woke women these days. 0.54

01:56:24.000 The story is all about trauma and how hard having trauma is and it's boring AF.

01:56:30.000 Look, you want to have an adventure series that has adventure.

01:56:34.000 You want to see, you know, horror games be actually scary.

01:56:38.000 And apparently, the effort to make things palatable for everybody so that way you can make the most broad player base as you possibly can, that's watering it down and it's actually not working.

01:56:55.000 Wolf Bain650 says, Saturday is my son's second birthday.

01:56:58.000 Phil, could you sing happy birthday for him?

01:57:00.000 Happy birthday to you.

01:57:02.000 Happy birthday to you.

01:57:05.000 Happy birthday, Wolf Pain's son.

01:57:07.000 Happy birthday to you.

01:57:09.000 Not copyrighted anymore either.

01:57:11.000 You're allowed to sing.

01:57:12.000 There you go.

01:57:12.000 I believe you're allowed to sing.

01:57:14.000 Were we at 51?

01:57:14.000 I mean, maybe Ian should have sung.

01:57:16.000 Maybe, yeah.

01:57:17.000 We're at 21.

01:57:18.000 No one has super chatted since I know I went live.

01:57:21.000 I love you.

01:57:22.000 You love me.

01:57:23.000 That's a really good sign.

01:57:24.000 KN92 says it's because they have been pushing to expand their audience to include females, citing data that women are 48% of gamers.

01:57:31.000 However, they are mobile gamers.

01:57:33.000 The game companies want more money.

01:57:34.000 Yeah, the whole like, oh, women are 48% of gamers, like that's because they're playing Candy Crush. 1.00

01:57:38.000 I don't even know if I necessarily believe that they're actually doing that for the sake of making more money.

01:57:43.000 I think a lot of it is just being ideologically poisoned and willing to sacrifice.

01:57:48.000 The people that are making these decisions are the middle managers, and they're basically browbeating the people in upper management who aren't listening to the actual fan base.

01:57:56.000 Yep.

01:57:57.000 When I got married, my wife got just addicted to Candy Crush and running with friends. 1.00

01:58:02.000 Yeah, but I don't see her playing World of Warcraft.

01:58:02.000 Yeah.

01:58:04.000 No, no.

01:58:06.000 I think that they've used that as an excuse.

01:58:07.000 They say they managed to skew the numbers because they say all video games, Candy Crush, and mobile games like that are among the video games.

01:58:15.000 So they say, look, we should definitely allow diversity in this game because look at the women are 48% of mobile games. 0.99

01:58:22.000 And look, that opens up our market so much more broadly.

01:58:26.000 But the reality of the situation is women are not really generally sitting down to play Worlds of Warcraft or any of these other types of games.

01:58:33.000 Musicians ever do this?

01:58:34.000 They ever go to focus groups and be like, we should change our sound to bring in the women. 1.00

01:58:38.000 I've never gone to a focus.

01:58:40.000 We had a female bass player for 10 years from 2005 until 2015.

01:58:45.000 And she didn't want us to make a thing about it.

01:58:47.000 And we didn't want to make a thing about it either.

01:58:49.000 It was just like, she's the bass player.

01:58:51.000 She's just another one of the people in the band, another one of the guys.

01:58:54.000 And it was fine.

01:58:55.000 We never made it like a thing.

01:58:57.000 Treats her as an equal.

01:58:58.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:58:59.000 We treated her just like she was another member of the band because that was just how we looked at people.

01:59:05.000 Like we didn't think, oh, we have to get a girl bass player so she's the girl in the band. 1.00

01:59:10.000 And then we have to focus on the fact that she's the girl in the band.

01:59:13.000 And, you know, she was on, you know, five, I think she was on five records with us.

01:59:16.000 And it's like, that was just normal.

01:59:18.000 Like, that was just the band.

01:59:20.000 We never made it a thing.

01:59:21.000 We didn't have to put out press releases and put her in, you know, specific.

01:59:26.000 She never wore a dress or anything.

01:59:28.000 She was just like, you know, another person because we treated her equally.

01:59:31.000 And I don't understand why modern society doesn't want to do that.

01:59:36.000 Let's see.

01:59:38.000 Texas Goliath says, old school RuneScape is supreme.

01:59:42.000 I never played.

01:59:43.000 Shout out for that one. 0.97

01:59:43.000 I played RuneScape. 0.97

01:59:45.000 $20 is like five or it's like four months worth of memberships.

01:59:49.000 That's where I played.

01:59:51.000 Let's see.

01:59:54.000 Control WQ.

01:59:55.000 I know what actually happened, and you could never believe me if I told you, but our world is about to change, radically change.

02:00:01.000 NCS, WIC.

02:00:02.000 I don't know what any of that means, but thank you for the super chat.

02:00:07.000 Here we go.

02:00:08.000 Alexander says, keeping Tim Cast tradition alive, watching in the delivery room just gave birth to a beautiful baby boy named Caspian.

02:00:16.000 Cheers.

02:00:16.000 That's awesome.

02:00:17.000 I think there's so many.

02:00:19.000 I'm starting to wonder if this is just becoming a thing.

02:00:21.000 I know your audience is reproducing.

02:00:23.000 I think he gave Yen, too, the why with the two lines through it.

02:00:27.000 I think that's Yen.

02:00:27.000 So over in Japan, that's cool.

02:00:29.000 More kids.

02:00:30.000 I don't add a clap.

02:00:31.000 When you get one where somebody's like, keeping with Tim Cast traditions, I'm here with the birth of my son, Adolph, and then you'll know that it was fantastic.

02:00:39.000 You get Deutschmarks.

02:00:43.000 Ian Pike Actual says the answer to Warcraft for men is Warhammer 40K, which Warcraft was based on.

02:00:48.000 If you're looking for unadulterated masculinity with chainsaw swords, check it out. 0.69

02:00:52.000 That is one of the things that we were talking about.

02:00:54.000 Me and Brett were talking about earlier today on Pop Culture Crisis.

02:00:58.000 Like, you can't really feminize Warhammer because everybody in Warhammer is a fascist. 0.95

02:01:05.000 Like, the good guys are fascists, the bad guys are fascist. 0.99

02:01:07.000 They're all like militant and they're all racist. 0.99

02:01:11.000 And that's just the whole thing. 0.83

02:01:12.000 You can't jump in there and be like, we're going to make a nice Warhammer.

02:01:18.000 It's all just brutal and chopping people up with chainsaws and stuff.

02:01:22.000 So, when toxic masculinity is the point of the game, then it's hard to offer.

02:01:26.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:01:27.000 Exactly.

02:01:28.000 Andre123 says, more Canadian shenanigans since Phil is hosting.

02:01:32.000 Need help finding an FFL to save Canadian guns from destruction?

02:01:35.000 Can still export.

02:01:36.000 Would you rather find a new home for a CZ Bren 2 Mexican force ed SBR than see it crushed? 0.67

02:01:43.000 I mean, look, I'm not up on the laws regarding international shipping of firearms, so I'm actually not going to say anything about that.

02:01:52.000 But if you do call an FFL in the United States, they might be more knowledgeable about me, depending on where you are.

02:01:58.000 Maybe you are able to ship it out of the country.

02:02:01.000 But I don't know, and I'm not going to give you any kind of advice because that's a very, very dangerous subject.

02:02:06.000 And a podcaster that doesn't have an FFL himself shouldn't be getting involved in it.

02:02:11.000 But smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.

02:02:14.000 Whoa, boy.

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02:02:23.000 Would you like to shout anything out or like to tell people where they can find you on X or the internet?

02:02:27.000 Yeah, absolutely.

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02:02:34.000 That's a real way to keep up on what we're doing and the information that we think is really important to people helping to flourish here in the future.

02:02:42.000 We are on Substack 2.

02:02:44.000 We're getting a broader issue.

02:02:45.000 So at or the safeblood.substack.com.

02:02:48.000 And of course, check out our site, please, safeblood.com.

02:02:52.000 Thank you, Clint.

02:02:53.000 Guys, if you want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on X at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms.

02:02:53.000 Appreciate it.

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02:03:09.000 I'm putting out more additional content.

02:03:11.000 I did a full episode with Verbal Riot.

02:03:13.000 We talked about DC Studios.

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02:03:24.000 But thanks for having me, guys.

02:03:27.000 I'll go first since Ian has grabbed a guitar to fulfill the prophecy that we have laid out here.

02:03:32.000 I'm Carter Benns.

02:03:34.000 Super Chats for that?

02:03:35.000 No, the thing is, we did not get enough for Ian to not sing.

02:03:39.000 So he must sing.

02:03:41.000 This is Tim's wish.

02:03:42.000 I'm Carter Banks.

02:03:43.000 You can follow me at Carter Banks on Instagram and YouTube at Carter Banks4L on Instagram.

02:03:49.000 Wait, Instagram.

02:03:51.000 Twitter is the other one.

02:03:52.000 Follow our record label at Trash House Records on YouTube and take it away, Ian.

02:03:56.000 You got it, man.

02:03:57.000 This is an older one that I wrote.

02:04:11.000 Your name is calling me still like a bad day. 0.70

02:04:20.000 I'm going through hell. 0.94

02:04:23.000 Never need me till I run away.

02:04:29.000 And you'll feed me for placid mistake.

02:04:35.000 And we'll be a little bit of your own weight.

02:04:41.000 You're finding a way, you're finding a way to me embrace you see me go and you might need to know another way Okay, 1.00

02:05:12.000 Your friends slide back the door Cause they're carefree or ignorant whores. 1.00

02:05:22.000 They don't see that You're driving me mad, Letting monsters Under the bed And you're tugging at the sheets, pulling out the keys to lock them down. 1.00

02:05:39.000 They'll be clawing up the legs, limiting everything that's left around. 0.71

02:05:45.000 You're a master with words.

02:05:48.000 You say, get on back to your holes.

02:05:54.000 It's strange.

02:05:56.000 Away, Rock the world and you see me another day.

02:06:24.000 But birds and squirrels merely point you here.

02:06:31.000 See them pals, there lining up, climbing down.

02:06:36.000 Well, race, because clearly the time is now. 0.60

02:06:53.000 Yeah, man.

02:07:17.000 Stick around for the Rumble After Show, everybody.

02:07:19.000 We'll check out Clips tomorrow.

02:07:22.000 Tim will be back.

02:07:22.000 We'll see you then.

02:09:01.000 Welcome to the Rumble After Show, everybody.

02:09:03.000 So, we have a guest here that has a business.

02:09:05.000 His name's Clinton.

02:09:07.000 He has a business that really just touching on the topic at all is kind of verboten on YouTube because he was involved with safe vaccines and with Essentially, actually, why don't you go ahead and give us an outline of it so that the issue of vaccine safety is what's central.

02:09:28.000 And the course, since the narrative still is that they're safe and effective, although that's being questioned more, that's you know, verboten topic on YouTube.

02:09:35.000 But yeah, what we do at Safe Blood is we're basically a registry of non-mRNA vaccinated blood donors that we match with anyone who needs a blood transfusion, who, for whatever reason, wants to avoid potential vaccine components or their products, right, like spike protein, mRNA, these things that have been very injurious to some people, they can be transferred through the blood.

02:10:01.000 And so, if you're someone who hasn't had the vaccine, right, and you don't want first exposure through a blood transfusion, or you have had the vaccine, we're talking about the COVID mRNA vaccines, and you want to, and you've had an adverse reaction, right?

02:10:17.000 And so you don't want further exposure.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - March 06, 2026

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