Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump Floats Accepting 600,000 Chinese Student Visas, MAGA Uproar | Timcast IRL

00:02:50.000 All right, folks, we're back.

00:02:52.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard another edition of the Poso Cash.

00:02:56.000 Jack Posobik, host of Human Events Daily, here live filling in for the great Tim Poole.

00:03:03.000 Tim is on the men.

00:03:04.000 And, you know, I see all these people.

00:03:06.000 The conspiracy theory out there is that Tim Poole is dead?

00:03:11.000 No, Tim is not dead like Paul McCartney who totally died all those years ago during the Beatles.

00:03:16.000 No, Tim is not dead at all.

00:03:19.000 As we know, Phil has him tied up in the basement.

00:03:23.000 Isn't that right, Phil?

00:03:24.000 I need, I can neither confirm nor deny that.

00:03:26.000 Yeah, see, there we go.

00:03:27.000 Look, look, all I'm, guys, all I'm saying is, Phil, he's, he's, he's kind of a big guy and he's good with knots.

00:03:34.000 So, I mean, you know, you know, anyway, look, we got a huge show tonight.

00:03:40.000 We've got so much going on.

00:03:42.000 There's a ton happening out in the world.

00:03:45.000 You know, I want to get in.

00:03:46.000 Of course, obviously, we've got to rock this.

00:03:49.000 first story, we kind of touched on it yesterday regarding the 600,000 Chinese student visas.

00:03:57.000 This comment that was made has absolutely set the internet on fire.

00:04:01.000 There is a MAGA backlash and uproar, if you will, to this.

00:04:06.000 And it comes on the same day that a Chinese student, a doctoral student, has been accused of stealing confidential U.S. government research in the United States.

00:04:18.000 So it's a crazy story.

00:04:19.000 We're going to get into that.

00:04:20.000 We're going to get into, of course, charges on Shiloh Hendrix, which is a massive story out.

00:04:26.000 We're going to get a massive story out of Rochester, Minnesota.

00:04:29.000 We're also going to get into this, this viral video, insane video out of Scotland of a young girl having to defend herself with battle axes against a couple of migrants, her and her sister.

00:04:42.000 By the way, Cracker Barrel going back to the old logo shout out to all the people shout out to all the haters from yesterday.

00:04:49.000 It worked, all right, it worked shout out to Tate on that, by the way, who chimped out like an absolute champ for pretty much a week straight. 0.81

00:04:57.000 It was tough, yeah, it was a lot of work.

00:04:59.000 You do realize that you have to only eat Cracker Barrel for a year now.

00:05:01.000 Yeah, I know what I signed up for, right?

00:05:02.000 Okay, all right, the pancakes are great.

00:05:04.000 The pancakes are great.

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00:05:08.000 Let us know.

00:05:09.000 We got a bunch of other good stories.

00:05:11.000 So we're getting into it all tonight.

00:05:12.000 We're absolutely getting into it all.

00:05:15.000 I want to go in.

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00:06:11.000 Another piece that I wanted to get to and I I'm remiss.

00:06:15.000 I am remiss for not knowing this yesterday.

00:06:18.000 We should have checked yesterday in the member section we were talking about psycho stew, better known as Stuart Smith, the boxer in this hyperviral video that's going out with Rampage Jackson's son, Raja Jackson.

00:06:33.000 We didn't realize that Psycho Sue, I didn't realize this, that he had a GoFundMe.

00:06:37.000 So guys, let's go in here and do everything we can.

00:06:42.000 Let's donate as much as possible to Psycho Sue. 1.00

00:06:46.000 Search, get the link out so that people can see it.

00:06:48.000 I think you just go to GoFundMe.

00:06:50.000 You can support Psycho Stu.

00:06:51.000 It's spelled SYKO STU.

00:06:54.000 I want to get into that story a little bit.

00:06:56.000 Shout out to Mr. Beast, by the way, top donation of $10,000 that's going in, but only 3,000 people have donated the..

00:07:03.000 It's at about, it just broke $100,000.

00:07:06.000 So it's at $112,000 right now.

00:07:08.000 Let's do everything we can for this guy because this is, you know, it's a horrible thing to see, but it's absolutely something that deserves to be helped with.

00:07:18.000 But we have a great show tonight and we have a guest who's going to talk about that and possibly a lot more because folks, I believe, first time on Timcast, right?

00:07:31.000 First time.

00:07:31.000 First time, first time, David Nino Rodriguez.

00:07:34.000 And I've had you on my show.

00:07:35.000 And you've been on my show, right?

00:07:36.000 So this is, yeah, we've done this, we did the show last year, so it's not our first show., but it's our first time on Tim's show.

00:07:42.000 Absolutely.

00:07:43.000 Yeah, I'm kind of upset.

00:07:44.000 I wanted to see Tim.

00:07:45.000 Not that I didn't want to see you.

00:07:46.000 Yeah.

00:07:47.000 I wanted to see you.

00:07:48.000 We all like, I'm looking forward to seeing Tim.

00:07:49.000 Tim is absolutely alive, by the way.

00:07:51.000 I can't believe that people would think that Tim is not dead.

00:07:58.000 He's definitely not dead.

00:08:00.000 Tim's fine.

00:08:01.000 Totally fine.

00:08:02.000 In the basement.

00:08:04.000 Tell people a little bit about yourself and, and, and, and, you know, kind of how you guys started doing this.

00:08:08.000 Well, yeah.

00:08:09.000 I mean, I just kind of transferred to Rena's.

00:08:10.000 I've been a fighter my whole life.

00:08:12.000 I was a top ten heavyweight contender champion boxer 36 and zero at my peak.

00:08:17.000 Wow.

00:08:18.000 I had two run-ins with death in 2011.

00:08:20.000 I got knifeed.

00:08:21.000 I overdosed on drugs.

00:08:23.000 I was a partyer.

00:08:24.000 I was juggling with both extremes, many extremes.

00:08:28.000 Died twice in 2011, flatlined.

00:08:32.000 Once when I'm overdosing on drugs, the other time I took a knife to the neck coming out of a bar, they slit my throat, and I almost died there.

00:08:38.000 Came back and didn't have a successful comeback after that.

00:08:43.000 And my life changed.

00:08:45.000 My whole life got nuked.

00:08:46.000 So they didn't take my life.

00:08:47.000 They took my career.

00:08:49.000 And I was forced to pivot and do something else.

00:08:52.000 So I had to reinvent myself.

00:08:55.000 I could have stayed in boxing.

00:08:56.000 I could have been a trainer.

00:08:58.000 I could have done all that stuff.

00:08:59.000 But I just felt compelled to go into the world of, I would like to say I kind of follow the deep state war on the politics going on behind the scenes.

00:09:09.000 That's what I follow.

00:09:10.000 And that's really where that just attracted to me.

00:09:12.000 That's what I recognize strategy.

00:09:15.000 So would you say that those experiences that you went through, you know, led you to see those same kind of patterns happening?

00:09:23.000 100%.

00:09:24.000 Yes.

00:09:24.000 Yeah.

00:09:24.000 Yes.

00:09:25.000 I can see strategy.

00:09:26.000 I can see patterns.

00:09:27.000 And I just fell into it.

00:09:28.000 And my podcast took off.

00:09:29.000 It's Ninos Corner.tv.

00:09:31.000 And it really exploded on the scene.

00:09:33.000 And I'm still going, man.

00:09:34.000 still watching everything and i think it's just absolutely uh for me it's it's it's like it's unbelievable to see how trump is quote-unquote beating the odds where he's at right now and seeing everything that's happening but uh i see strategy i see brilliance and i see an operation no we did great i remember doing nino's corner last year when we were doing the push for the unhumans book and we did a great interview so absolutely let's have another one today people love you man ah not good but let's let's let's go around the horn and here's a guy that i have not seen uh in in ages

00:10:04.000 it's a lot what's up man good evening everybody why are we both so tan today i don't know i didn't think um holax could get that dark oh i get even darker than this brother i get even darker people people will mistake me for So good evening, everybody.

00:10:19.000 My name is Alad Eliyahu.

00:10:20.000 I'm the White House correspondent here at Timcast.

00:10:23.000 Tate, what's up?

00:10:24.000 What's up, everybody?

00:10:25.000 Tate Brown here holding it down.

00:10:26.000 So you like that's a new catchphrase, I think.

00:10:28.000 It's going to work.

00:10:28.000 Yeah, filled in for this morning.

00:10:30.000 Telling people that it's a new catchphrase.

00:10:31.000 To make it worse.

00:10:32.000 Yeah, to really hammer it home.

00:10:33.000 And we had a morning show, we had a great interview today with Congressman Tim Burchett.

00:10:37.000 You got to go check that out.

00:10:38.000 It was excellent.

00:10:39.000 Yeah, so go check that out.

00:10:41.000 Yeah, hello, everybody.

00:10:42.000 My name is Philip Bonte.

00:10:43.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:10:45.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter revolutionary.

00:10:47.000 Let's get into it.

00:10:48.000 Let's get into it.

00:10:48.000 Yeah, so Alad and I, by the way, we were at the White House pretty much the whole day today.

00:10:52.000 They were doing a media row.

00:10:54.000 And but but the the and and God bless them but the reason we were out there so long is because we they were having this cabinet meeting which turned, which they said, okay, they're going to have the cabinet meeting and then members of the cabinet will come out and you guys can interview them and it's going to be great.

00:11:10.000 And so, you know, you know, we set up, we bring cameras, we do the whole thing.

00:11:14.000 And they're like, okay, we're pretty sure the meeting is going to be, you know, maybe an hour and a half, maybe two hours max.

00:11:19.000 Okay, maybe two and a half.

00:11:20.000 Okay, maybe three.

00:11:22.000 It went three and a half hours.

00:11:24.000 So a lot of night we spent, we almost four hours out there.

00:11:27.000 At least it was on the South Lawn.

00:11:28.000 It's a good place to be left out to dry.

00:11:30.000 So we were chilling on the South Lawnwn.

00:11:33.000 Chilling like a chilling overlooking the Oval Office.

00:11:37.000 Trump did peep out.

00:11:38.000 President Trump did peep out at one point, but I had a great interview with Director CI, not CIA, what is it?

00:11:46.000 ICE Director Lyons.

00:11:47.000 I think you also had an interview.

00:11:48.000 Yeah, I got to sit down with him.

00:11:49.000 And so we'll put that out soon, but it's great.

00:11:52.000 Anything at the White House, I feel like it's a great opportunity.

00:11:54.000 I know, it's incredible.

00:11:55.000 And there's something that I feel that this White House is never going to get credit for.

00:12:00.000 And they're doing so even more than the first term.

00:12:03.000 I mean, they're so accessible.

00:12:05.000 They're really so accessible.

00:12:06.000 And they let you talk to the directors and the secretaries.

00:12:11.000 on a very one-to-one basis and they're so open.

00:12:14.000 And I would absolutely encourage anyone who's out there, Nino, I gotta get you in there, man.

00:12:18.000 No, can I just say something?

00:12:20.000 I forgot to tell you, you know, I gotta go.

00:12:22.000 I don't want, I will go, but I just want to say one thing.

00:12:25.000 I don't want people to think that you're all sitting here with a degenerate and I just, I gotta catch myself.

00:12:29.000 I've been six years sober.

00:12:30.000 There you go, man.

00:12:32.000 That's great.

00:12:32.000 There you go.

00:12:33.000 I gotta make sure I gotta clear the room here.

00:12:34.000 Like, I gotta clear the air.

00:12:35.000 I don't want people to be like, damn, they got a degenerate.

00:12:38.000 I'll take the degenerate title.

00:12:39.000 I'm not sober yet.

00:12:40.000 So, six years.

00:12:41.000 So, Tate, I learned my lesson.

00:12:43.000 Wait, Tate was about to ask you where you're going tonight.

00:12:46.000 Yeah.

00:12:46.000 Hey, what's the mission?

00:12:47.000 Anyway, winner.

00:12:49.000 Like West Virginia Nights.

00:12:50.000 I was like, I don't know if he's the right person to go to a bar with.

00:12:52.000 But it's Tuesday night.

00:12:54.000 Come on.

00:12:56.000 8 a.m. somewhere.

00:12:56.000 I don't like quitters.

00:12:58.000 I've been in a touring metal band for twenty years.

00:13:00.000 You see it all.

00:13:01.000 Okay, cool.

00:13:03.000 You're not the only guy.

00:13:04.000 You're not the only, only one knife.

00:13:06.000 You know, you're the pussy. 1.00

00:13:08.000 I just, I just go to Cracker Barrel.

00:13:10.000 So, right.

00:13:10.000 You know, that's pretty much my, that's pretty, yeah, I'm in the rocking chair.

00:13:15.000 They actually based the logo of Cracker Barrel off of me, because I'm just the guy who's out there with the barrel.

00:13:20.000 Hashtag real cracker.

00:13:22.000 Hashtag real cracker.

00:13:23.000 But no, folks, we've got to get into this because we So we mentioned this story yesterday.

00:13:28.000 It had come up and, you know, I think over the last 24 hours, it's absolutely just taken over the internet in a huge firestorm.

00:13:38.000 Trump says the US would accept 600,000 Chinese students, sparking uproar among some conservatives.

00:13:44.000 They talk about Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:13:46.000 This is an NBC article, conservative influencer Laura Loomer blasting the idea.

00:13:51.000 By the way, they keep pointing out that NBC has got this picture up of President Trump and they're talking about the Chinese students.

00:13:58.000 Of course, this is the President of South Korea.

00:14:01.000 It is not the President of China in the picture.

00:14:04.000 Now, of course, now, to be fair, to be fair, you know.

00:14:08.000 They're saying they're doing that because that's the meeting he was at when he made the comments.

00:14:13.000 But at the same time, like, if I was at Human Events or Postmillennial, if I was doing graphics, I'd probably say, I just, I feel like it doesn't make sense to include him in this picture because the story is not about him.

00:14:24.000 I can understand the mistake.

00:14:26.000 Oh, no, no.

00:14:28.000 Don't say it.

00:14:29.000 But then, wait, but wait, plot twist, wait, plot twist.

00:14:34.000 The author is Kimmy Yam.

00:14:36.000 Oh, wow.

00:14:37.000 Sounds like an Asian author.

00:14:38.000 So plot twist.

00:14:39.000 Right.

00:14:40.000 You know, maybe we're cool.

00:14:41.000 Maybe we're cool.

00:14:42.000 Inside job, exactly.

00:14:43.000 Didn't the President of South Korea float the idea of Trump Hotel in North Korea?

00:14:47.000 today?

00:14:47.000 He mentioned it.

00:14:48.000 Yeah, in the meeting, he mentioned it and he says, I hope we have the idea.

00:14:52.000 Well, so this new party of South Korea is a very pro-unification party and they're they have been accused of a lot of ties to the CCP.

00:15:04.000 So they have a totally different line on North Korea than they than the other party, which is much more conservative, much more combative, much more anti-CCP, anti-communist.

00:15:15.000 And so there's, you know, that's one of the things he's saying, well, you know, we want denuclearization, but we also want the Trump Tower and we want this and we want that and unification.

00:15:23.000 And wouldn't it be great if Beijing took, wait, wait, what?

00:15:26.000 What did you say?

00:15:26.000 Yeah.

00:15:27.000 So he'd probably be totally cool with the Chinese students.

00:15:31.000 But let's get into this because this is what I asked.

00:15:33.000 And I was checking this.

00:15:35.000 So 600,000 Chinese student visas.

00:15:38.000 I'm against that, for sure.

00:15:40.000 I don't, I don't think we need this.

00:15:41.000 I don't, and we talked about this last night, but, you know, it's, they, they pay full freight.

00:15:46.000 This is a huge cash cow for the universities.

00:15:48.000 So just right off its bat, if it helps the universities, it's something that I want.

00:15:53.000 100%.

00:15:53.000 It's a money thing.

00:15:54.000 It's a money thing.

00:15:55.000 And this comes on the heels of that student that was giving away secrets, correct?

00:15:58.000 Right.

00:15:59.000 So I was just going to mention that.

00:16:00.000 So that happens on the same day.

00:16:02.000 But I wanted to get into.

00:16:02.000 into and just let's let's put the scope of this real quick here.

00:16:06.000 What is the current number of Chinese students?

00:16:08.000 So the current number is just under 300,000.

00:16:12.000 So it's about 300,000 that are here.

00:16:14.000 This is a doubling of the Chinese student population in the United States or would be a doubling, which is also, by the way, there's so many Republicans that have been fighting against this.

00:16:26.000 Marco Rubio has talked about this, the Secretary of State, so many other policymakers.

00:16:31.000 Now, what's interesting is the White House has not responded to comments on this.

00:16:36.000 And so look, you know, there's been a lot of times where President Trump has said something specifically regarding visas in one of these meetings where it doesn't really turn into policy from the White House.

00:16:47.000 I'm wondering if this is going to be one of those conversations, one of those times, but we still have to talk about it.

00:16:52.000 So yeah, Nina, you were mentioning this, the other side of it where there was a guy who was a kid who was just I believe charged, right?

00:17:00.000 He was charged.

00:17:01.000 So he's actually been charged today down in Texas for attempting to steal research funded by the U.S. government and taking it back to his native China.

00:17:12.000 Is this the first time this has happened, Nina?

00:17:13.000 Look, I come from the border, right?

00:17:15.000 I'm from El Paso, Texas.

00:17:17.000 I'm watching people get kicked out of their homes, Abuelo's grandfathers that have families here that have kids and then that are Americanized that speak only English and then they have grandkids that speak only English and they're getting ready to deport the grandpa, you know, and then you're going to let in six hundred thousand Chinese students. 0.99

00:17:38.000 That's just so hypocritical to me.

00:17:40.000 I just see from an ethical standpoint, standpoint, I see something completely wrong with this, especially if they're the ones giving out the secrets.

00:17:47.000 You know what I mean?

00:17:48.000 I mean, what's the Abuelo doing in El Paso?

00:17:50.000 You know, that that that's just trying to live his life.

00:17:53.000 I mean, I think there's we've got to come to a middle range here to where.

00:17:58.000 we can argue the point of certain people staying, like a grandfather who's here, who's been here for thirty something years.

00:18:05.000 And look, I see you shaking your head and I with it, but when you come to this, would you bring this up, you're going to let six thousand six hundred thousand chinese in i mean from a humanitarian point of view i i'm just i'm just saying i'm with you on this the chinese that the chinese are actual adversary. 0.99

00:18:25.000 So allowing 600,000 Chinese nationals into the United States is a terrible thing. 0.99

00:18:30.000 I'm saying I'm against it.

00:18:31.000 I'm against it.

00:18:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:32.000 I'm totally against it.

00:18:34.000 But I'm saying like, what do you tell the grandfather?

00:18:36.000 You're going to allow them in, but what are you telling the abuelo who's sitting at home with his kids and grandkids, you gotta go back to Best.

00:18:42.000 He's been here thirty years.

00:18:43.000 He's done nothing.

00:18:43.000 He's come in here illegally?

00:18:45.000 Well, that's the wrong thing.

00:18:45.000 Correct.

00:18:46.000 That's the wrong thing.

00:18:47.000 And on paper, these guys would be legal.

00:18:47.000 I get it.

00:18:49.000 And dude, I'm with you on that.

00:18:50.000 I'm with you on that.

00:18:51.000 I'm just saying, how do you argue that when you're doing that?

00:18:53.000 That's how I'd argue.

00:18:54.000 I mean, for the, I wouldn't be making the argument because I would never accept a nationalist position.

00:19:00.000 Dude, I'm on your side.

00:19:01.000 Just let me get it.

00:19:03.000 I mean, I I've got to say, in that case, why not both?

00:19:06.000 Right.

00:19:07.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:19:08.000 So you understand what I'm saying.

00:19:09.000 Yeah.

00:19:10.000 How about go home or in Chinese, hui tia. 1.00

00:19:13.000 Hui tia.

00:19:14.000 I'm a little bit ambivalent on the issue.

00:19:16.000 And I want to steal man Trump's case here.

00:19:19.000 He did actually have more recent comments on this where he said, I told President Xi that we're honored to have his students here.

00:19:25.000 And now with that, we'll check them.

00:19:27.000 We'll be very careful to see who it is on the concerns of them potentially being spies or stealing information.

00:19:33.000 So it's a couple of things at hand here that we should explore further.

00:19:37.000 You mentioned it again, the universities.

00:19:40.000 These foreign students pay full tuition.

00:19:42.000 Yes.

00:19:43.000 Which is usually roughly at least double what like someone who is in the state would pay for a lot of these schools.

00:19:49.000 And a lot of these So we actually have in the article, I've got a number for you just to add to the steal man, I guess Chinese students contributed in 2023.

00:19:58.000 So is it, what's the source for this though?

00:20:01.000 NBC is claiming it, but there's no source.

00:20:03.000 So NBC claims there's no source, but they're claiming that Chinese students contributed $14 billion to the U.S. economy.

00:20:13.000 So here's the thing.

00:20:14.000 I'd like to know where that comes from.

00:20:15.000 So whatever they contribute to tuition is one thing.

00:20:17.000 Then there's like the total economic picture of what else they contribute here because when these people are here is, you know, they need to shop, they need to eat food, they need to buy things, and that's what they do.

00:20:27.000 So they contribute to the economy.

00:20:28.000 So there's like that monetary value.

00:20:30.000 It's a huge subsidy to these colleges.

00:20:31.000 I went to the university at Buffalo, it felt like half the college were these Chinese and Indian students, but without them, these colleges wouldn't be able to survive. 0.83

00:20:41.000 There's something to say about the soft power aspect of this.

00:20:43.000 While I think we have something like a sense of what's going on.

00:20:46.000 Lutnick has been arguing.

00:20:47.000 Yeah, that there's a cultural aspect to this.

00:20:50.000 Most people don't want to go to there are some people who shop around schools all around planet Earth, but the best schools generally that foreign students want to go to are schools in the United States and the cultural impact of some of your best and brightest from foreign countries coming here, in in ingrating yourself with American values and then taking that home.

00:21:08.000 I think there's something to daughter, famously, I believe, went to Harvard for x number of years and the influence there can be untold.

00:21:16.000 So I think we should also think of this in terms of the trade deficit that we have with China.

00:21:21.000 This is essentially a trade item that could help balance that trade imbalance as well.

00:21:25.000 And I think that's why they're going for a doubling.

00:21:27.000 So while I do have concerns about the security aspect, I think these are rich Chinese people coming here with fat wallets. 1.00

00:21:33.000 And I think these are probably the most western of Chinese people to begin with who would even consider coming here. 0.90

00:21:38.000 I know you spent some time in China yourself.

00:21:40.000 About two years, yeah.

00:21:41.000 You know, what do you think about Trump using this as kind of in the aspect of trade, not too concerned using this as a tool to kind of try to leverage with President Xi?

00:21:50.000 I think that it would, in a vacuum, you know, maybe.

00:21:54.000 I would say, you know, that's a good point.

00:21:56.000 But, you know, in the past 20, 30 years since the globalist project has been set up, our relationship with China has been absolutely toxic for this country.

00:22:07.000 And it's deprived so many people of their jobs in terms of the manufacturing that's been outsourced at the blue-collar level.

00:22:16.000 And what we're talking about here is depriving people of a pathway to a better life if you would have had the ability to make it into one of these schools.

00:22:24.000 But you're, you know, you're some kid from the Midwest. 0.81

00:22:26.000 And so you're playing for maybe scholarships or whatever it is, and you can't get one because they want that spot to go to some scion of the CCP elite that is able to pay full freight.

00:22:37.000 So they're going to come in.

00:22:38.000 And by the way, you know, to your point about the CCP's sending their kids here, Zhang Zemin's grandson went to UPenn like twenty years ago.

00:22:46.000 And so this, you know, this has been going on for quite some time.

00:22:49.000 We haven't seen any shift in the CCP.

00:22:52.000 And if anything, they've become more authoritarian.

00:22:54.000 In Zhang Zemin, Hu Jintao were more technocratic, whereas Xi Jinping is much more authoritarian and certainly has been since he's taken power in 2012 and has remained and perhaps will be the Chinese, you know, the chairman of the party until long after we're all dead because he's going to be keeping himself immortal with Chinese power.

00:23:12.000 And so, if anything, we've become more like China since this globalist relationship has begun.

00:23:20.000 And so, you know, when I look at something like this, again, I still say, what is best for the American people first?

00:23:27.000 See, that's what I have a problem with.

00:23:28.000 I mean, the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab has said that the model for the world is China, the CCP China.

00:23:34.000 So we are letting in 600,000 of them.

00:23:38.000 I just, I, I'm sorry.

00:23:40.000 I just, I see a lot of things wrong with it.

00:23:42.000 And I think it's very hypocritical.

00:23:44.000 Yeah.

00:23:44.000 And I, and I'm, you know, I, I'm a Trump supporter all the way.

00:23:48.000 People don't get it wrong.

00:23:49.000 I am.

00:23:50.000 But I'm going to call things out when I don't agree with it, just like everyone here.

00:23:54.000 I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with me on this one, right?

00:23:57.000 And all I was saying was about the Mexican grandpa at home who's done nothing wrong.

00:24:02.000 Then, you know, doing it for some and not all of them.

00:24:04.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:05.000 You can't just pick and choose, to me.

00:24:06.000 I mean, it's just such a very...

00:24:13.000 I do agree that you got to come here legally, no doubt about it.

00:24:16.000 But I mean, if we're really looking at the real numbers, we're looking at what, 30, 40 million illegals here in America.

00:24:24.000 So funny enough, Alaud and I both interviewed the ICE director today, and you asked him about that number too, right?

00:24:30.000 He couldn't even give us a solid number on how many are here.

00:24:33.000 I asked him how many have they detained and deported so far, and what are their goals?

00:24:38.000 I don't think anyone in the Trump cabinet is trying to get ahead of Trump himself though, and they don't want those numbers held against them, so I don't think they're trying to be firm and consistent.

00:24:46.000 Can I say something I've noticed?

00:24:48.000 But you'd think that as I imagine though, as ICE, they probably have a number, right?

00:24:54.000 Obviously they know how many have been deported, but I think there's probably a number that they have that's that's sort of a working operational number.

00:25:02.000 But for reasons like that and also legal reasons, they're probably not putting it out publicly.

00:25:07.000 But I think they do have enough.

00:25:08.000 But I will tell you, though, that they're striking fear in them because they're not moving around like they should.

00:25:14.000 When I go to the airports from El Paso to San Antonio, where I'm flying, it used to be packed to the gills.

00:25:20.000 Yeah.

00:25:20.000 And now, dude, there's like 80 to 100 seats open and flights are like, they're cutting down the flights now.

00:25:27.000 They're not flying.

00:25:28.000 Yeah, they're not moving.

00:25:29.000 They're like in a frozen state right now.

00:25:32.000 So, but the word is on the street, you know, in El Paso, everyone's like, they're just going to wait it out till Trump is gone.

00:25:37.000 They're pretty confident that.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, that's really what they're saying.

00:25:40.000 That's exactly what they're saying.

00:25:41.000 Dude, my homie's nanny, they don't let her go to the park because they're scared she's going to get hurt. 0.93

00:25:45.000 To your point, that's why, like, my opinion is the United Federal Government or not, well, the Federal Government should come down on people that employ illegal, really hard, and people that rent housing to illegal.

00:25:57.000 100%.

00:25:58.000 Because if you, if, if their, if their, if their option or their decision is to just, uh, lock it down, that's what they're doing.

00:26:04.000 Hide, they're not going to leave.

00:26:06.000 So the next thing, because I don't, I've said this a bunch of times, I don't want to see ICE agents kicking in people's doors because if, first of all, it's bad for, it's bad for just optics, right?

00:26:18.000 Like nobody wants to see grandma or grandpa getting drugged out of their bed by guys in body armor.

00:26:20.000 That's just not something that anyone wants to see on the internet.

00:26:21.000 It upsets Karen.

00:26:22.000 Karen gets all mad. 1.00

00:26:23.000 She's at Home Depot.

00:26:23.000 She's at Walmart.

00:26:49.000 She's at.

00:26:56.000 If they're hiring people, well, just to answer his point that I've had it told to me because when Real ID was coming around and the Trump administration has sort of been, you know, they didn't come up with the, it's been on the books for, you know, a long time.

00:27:12.000 But they are sort of administering this rollout.

00:27:14.000 And I asked around and, you know, sort of on the background, yo, what's the deal?

00:27:18.000 Like this, this thing is kind of unpopular.

00:27:20.000 Why are we, you know, why are we still doing it?

00:27:22.000 And that was sort of the response that I had was, you know, they do think it's something where, look, if you're an illegal, there's no way you're walking in and you have to present all those documents to get a basic ID, to get on planes, to go, to go.

00:27:36.000 You'll be taken down right there and you're out.

00:27:37.000 Yeah.

00:27:38.000 So they know they can't get him.

00:27:39.000 So again, it's part of that idea of ratcheting things up.

00:27:42.000 But nobody's self-deporting.

00:27:44.000 You know, he's giving that option like, well, if you self-deport, they're not going to do that.

00:27:48.000 What do you think about this thought that people are saying, you know, some kind of stipend to self-deport?

00:27:55.000 So like they're not.

00:27:57.000 I'm telling you right now, I'm in El Paso.

00:27:58.000 I know what I'm hearing.

00:27:59.000 Nobody's self-deporting.

00:28:00.000 Nobody's taking.

00:28:01.000 Would they take their report as self-deporting?

00:28:01.000 I don't see.

00:28:03.000 No, I think they would take it.

00:28:04.000 No, because it took so long to get here.

00:28:06.000 And they're just going to wait out.

00:28:07.000 They really believe Trump is going to be gone.

00:28:09.000 Like they believe everyone's going to be fed up with him.

00:28:11.000 You got Gavin Newsom running his mouth, Beth O'Rourke. 0.96

00:28:14.000 I mean, they're like the cheerleaders amping these people these people up.

00:28:17.000 It's so wrong.

00:28:17.000 It's a humanitarian crisis, all this stuff.

00:28:20.000 They're going to wait it out.

00:28:21.000 They're going to wait it out.

00:28:22.000 And I don't see anything happening in El Paso that's any different.

00:28:25.000 I know that there have been some tunnels here and there that have been intercepted and stuff like that.

00:28:30.000 But really, from everyone that I know of, everyone's waiting it out.

00:28:34.000 Don't you think if they just crank up taxes on remittances that would force a lot of return.

00:28:39.000 But these people, I mean, they're they're living just under the radar, bro, just scraping by and they're going to stay here and just hunker down.

00:28:47.000 Yeah.

00:28:47.000 That's what I'm just curious is what would be the incentive for them to stay if remittances or taxes on remittances are sky high.

00:28:52.000 Maybe they could do a workaround just playing.

00:28:54.000 around with just using cash.

00:28:56.000 You could use cryptocurrencies.

00:28:57.000 But it's still better here than where they came from.

00:29:00.000 Where they came from, there's murder.

00:29:02.000 There's crime, violent crime.

00:29:04.000 Families are getting killed.

00:29:05.000 The gang problem is still out of control.

00:29:08.000 Third world problems are third world problems. 0.99

00:29:10.000 You know, like coming here, it's still better.

00:29:12.000 Even if they have to be homeless.

00:29:15.000 So that's their argument.

00:29:16.000 They don't want to go back to that.

00:29:17.000 It's a terrible life.

00:29:18.000 It's a terrible life.

00:29:21.000 So we've got to think of some other ways to write.

00:29:27.000 You got to heat the pot so that the frog jumps out.

00:29:30.000 That's why you have to make it illegal to rent to them so they can't find homes.

00:29:33.000 I agree.

00:29:34.000 Make it, make it, make it illegal.

00:29:35.000 Well, not make it illegal, but punish the people that rent to them and punish the landlords.

00:29:40.000 Yeah, punish the people that employ them as well.

00:29:42.000 You know, that's the only way.

00:29:44.000 And this is something that I've talked about this a bunch of times, but this is something that Democrats say all the time.

00:29:47.000 Oh, well, why do you not go after the business owners?

00:29:50.000 Why do you not go after, yeah, go after them.

00:29:52.000 Everything.

00:29:53.000 I believe in all options.

00:29:54.000 I'm with you.

00:29:55.000 This is something that I did actually ask to the ICE director earlier today.

00:30:00.000 We're going to be releasing this a little while, but sorry, you can see the whole thing on Human Events Daily, but I am going to mention what he said.

00:30:07.000 So he, you know, I said this.

00:30:09.000 I said, you know, I've noticed the way they're targeting some of these raids.

00:30:12.000 It seems that when the businesses are getting raided, it seems like you guys are actually going after the business owners even more than just the workers.

00:30:19.000 Yeah.

00:30:20.000 And, and like, yeah, maybe some of the workers will get rolled up.

00:30:23.000 But I said, are you targeting immigration fraud?

00:30:26.000 And they said, absolutely.

00:30:27.000 He said, he confirmed, I was surprised that he confirmed that because I haven't seen any, you know, operational statement out there saying that they're.

00:30:34.000 you know, making that the priority for ICE enforcement.

00:30:37.000 But he said, we're absolutely looking at for these flagrant, you know, and it could be a supermarket.

00:30:42.000 It could be a slaughterhouse, whatever it might be, that it's, they know the places, right?

00:30:48.000 They know the places that are doing the hiring.

00:30:50.000 They know the places that are putting out fake IDs, stolen social security numbers, this idea, oh, they don't access benefits.

00:30:56.000 Cut the crap.

00:30:57.000 Like we know they're accessing benefits.

00:30:59.000 It's not hard to get a fake social security number.

00:31:01.000 And then to your point, right?

00:31:02.000 Then their kids who, if they're born here, they get to go to school, they get to access all that, so they have sort of the indirect access to the welfare net that we have, the broader social safety net that we have in this country.

00:31:15.000 And so it's a total joke, which I think ABC was saying the other day, that they're so upset that illegal aliens are having their kids are being worried about being pulled out of school.

00:31:26.000 I said, wait a minute.

00:31:27.000 So you admit that they're accessing public benefits, even though you I will say that I've noticed the schools have less kids, man.

00:31:35.000 Like when I'm going through certain streets to get to my house, this one, it used to get flooded with kids and now it's like just like nothing.

00:31:43.000 Like, hardly any kids coming out of the school now.

00:31:46.000 So I know, I do just watching this, like take place.

00:31:49.000 Have you done any content down there?

00:31:50.000 Have you, like, gone around and filmed and stuff?

00:31:52.000 I went down to the border to show what a joke it is.

00:31:55.000 And before Trump really took it.

00:31:57.000 Well, I mean since Trump has come back.

00:31:59.000 Yeah, I was, I was, I was going down to the border and I was going to show the razor that was there that Biden put in.

00:32:03.000 Yeah.

00:32:04.000 cheap razor that was there and it was a joke and i showed up and man military guys came out immediately like within two minutes and put guns to me and i was like yo wow i was like this is good good you all passed i was just checking you did that recently yeah yeah this was about three months ago okay about three months ago and i got there and they're like yeah man you can't be here this and that and i'm like i'm out dude hey i'm a trump supporter i'm a trump operational control of the border and you know what there was a dude in a camouflage tent i mean they're all sitting out there and

00:32:33.000 i didn't even see the guy and they got me and you're on the u.s i was going that way yeah you're on the u.s.i they got me real quick and they were asking me all kinds of questions like yo i was like man i was just doing content for instagram and i'm i'm out guys all good you all passed I think it was that.

00:32:50.000 How now how close to town was that?

00:32:52.000 That was, you know, where Paisano is.

00:32:54.000 You know, where exactly where we're the kind of where we build the wall that area.

00:32:59.000 Like, go down past that.

00:33:00.000 Yeah, just right off Paisano, the street Paisano.

00:33:02.000 That used to be the most dangerous stretch of freeway in America.

00:33:05.000 I remember them saying that when I was there, yeah.

00:33:07.000 It was bad.

00:33:08.000 They used to, so the, before the wall was there, they used to go put rocks or two by four s and nails and cars would hit them.

00:33:14.000 Pop, pop, pop.

00:33:15.000 And then the kids from the other side would run, could do a car jacking, kill people.

00:33:18.000 I mean, it was brutal.

00:33:20.000 So they were doing car jacking.

00:33:21.000 They were coming from Mexico doing the car jacking. 1.00

00:33:23.000 Then they would rob the trains.

00:33:23.000 Could they?

00:33:24.000 So they drive the car back or just like get the crap out of the car and shoot somebody and run back.

00:33:29.000 And it was that easy.

00:33:30.000 It happened all the time.

00:33:32.000 Absolutely insane.

00:33:34.000 Anything else you guys want to add about the Chinese students or is there anyone who wants to make, I mean, Alad gave the best steel man, but when it comes to it, look, you know, people will say, you know, MAGA is always in lockstep with Trump, but I just don't think that's the case.

00:33:47.000 I think you can point to issue after issue where that hasn't been shown.

00:33:51.000 I think this is indicative of a larger anti-immigrant, both legal and illegal trend that we're seeing on the right and then both in the elements of moderates, independents and the left as well.

00:34:04.000 I mean, we've talked about the reason though, right?

00:34:06.000 Like, so the idea that they're bringing people into the country so that they can count them in the census. 0.82

00:34:13.000 These people tend to, you know, concentrate in urban areas.

00:34:18.000 That means that you're more than likely going to have the urban areas get more people in the census.

00:34:23.000 That means more representatives in Congress, most likely Democrat representatives.

00:34:28.000 This is the reason why I don't want immigrants is because it's taking voting power away from the American people. 1.00

00:34:34.000 It has nothing to do with who they are.

00:34:36.000 Now, when it comes to the Chinese, I think they're a threat because I know that China is an adversary of the United States. 0.98

00:34:42.000 I don't have the false notion that they're just a rival or we're going to work together on something.

00:34:48.000 China doesn't look at the United States that way, and the United States cannot look at China that way because China doesn't look at us that way.

00:34:55.000 So the thing that I don't want, I want to see is no Chinese students coming in unless they're and actually, no, not at all, like none, because they're a, they're a national security threat, you know? 1.00

00:35:05.000 I think we do need to make a distinction between the CCP and the regular Chinese person. 0.94

00:35:10.000 There is no distinction.

00:35:12.000 I think there is.

00:35:12.000 China can call, China can call on people and say, look, you do this, and if you don't, we're going to, we're going to put you your family.

00:35:19.000 We're going to put your family.

00:35:20.000 We're going to put your family.

00:35:20.000 Nationalists who hate the Chinese government.

00:35:22.000 They don't, I don't think that's important because they'll go after their family in China.

00:35:27.000 Well, no, and certainly, by the way, there's obviously a distinction, but when we're talking about a lot of these colleges that are Ivy League, you do have to have the money to be able to afford this.

00:35:35.000 So typically you are getting elites and you have to be a member of the CCP, you know, or you have to have family that are members of the CCP.

00:35:41.000 And the fact, like I said, it doesn't matter what the individual thinks.

00:35:45.000 It doesn't matter because if they have family back home that they love in China, then that's where they apply the pressure. 0.98

00:35:50.000 Xi Jinping has no problem doing that.

00:35:53.000 He will put his thumb on your grandma if you don't listen.

00:35:56.000 Listen, he will put his thumb on your brother, your mom, whatever, if you don't, you know, I think he'll lock you in your, he'll lock you in your home.

00:36:03.000 It's a 100% threat to national security.

00:36:06.000 I don't think that they need to have these students here on visas, although you could argue the most important place to have them would be in the universities.

00:36:14.000 But if they want, they could, if you want to have a sophisticated Chinese spy from the CCP, you could come into the country illegally.

00:36:20.000 I'm sure it would be very easy for them to get fake documents or pretend they're another Chinese person. 0.98

00:36:26.000 We heard stories about them coming in through, coming across the Darien Gap.

00:36:29.000 Sure.

00:36:29.000 Well, that's why I'm kind of arguing that they come here on student visas wouldn't be the biggest threat.

00:36:34.000 If they wanted to come in as spies, they could do so through the southern border and then infiltrate.

00:36:39.000 with their intelligence.

00:36:40.000 When you're talking about stealing research, this is, I mean, it's it's all about placement and access.

00:36:45.000 So when you're talking about spycraft, so if your P and A is already at MIT or one of these research laboratories, I mean, these universities are where the research is happening and in many cases, of course, being done with government funding or perhaps on proprietary, you know, what, what any kind of technology.

00:37:05.000 Obviously, we've talked a lot about the biotech transfer between the US and China.

00:37:10.000 So it's clearly part of a toxic relationship that we have with China, and that's why I'm against against it. 1.00

00:37:16.000 Well, they get busted in Germany, in the UK and France for this all the time too.

00:37:20.000 This is a problem in universities across the world.

00:37:23.000 And the embassy or the consulate will put pressure on the students because what they'll do is, here's how it works.

00:37:29.000 They'll track you, right?

00:37:30.000 They'll track the students and then they'll figure out, okay, what students do we have in, what classes are they in, what major are they in, and then they'll line that up with whatever their Ministry of State Security priorities are.

00:37:40.000 So your priority intelligence requirements or PIRs that we would have in the IC in the US, they've got theirs as well.

00:37:46.000 And so suddenly someone who's in the science and technology department says, hey, you've got this guy and he's making his way towards here, have him go for those files.

00:37:54.000 So it's not like it's not like someone is a spy from the start.

00:37:59.000 It's more like they're already here.

00:38:01.000 Then we find out, hey, they've got access to something we want.

00:38:04.000 Now we apply the pressure.

00:38:05.000 Yeah, they're just they're property of the CCP, regardless, you know, whether they're going to.

00:38:08.000 But I'm a little confused on something.

00:38:10.000 Is this something he just fleetingly said or is this something that he actually held a conference with and said, well, I'm going to do this.

00:38:16.000 I repeated it multiple times.

00:38:18.000 He's been asked about it in the past and said that he doesn't want to get rid of the 300,000.

00:38:23.000 He's always used strong rhetoric about against that, against expelling them.

00:38:28.000 I also think this is worth mentioning that if you zoom out for a second geopolitically., what this really speaks to is a failure in diplomacy.

00:38:35.000 This is one of the, like, not last, but it's going down the path of a failing diplomacy with China.

00:38:41.000 If we're thinking that we need not have these students be here, obviously the Trump administration thinks differently.

00:38:48.000 I think that when it comes down to it, it's, I just go back to, and to your point about the failure of diplomacy, the average person looks at it as a completely unbalanced relationship that we have with China.

00:39:00.000 So it's this huge inverse where it seems that they get all of the gain.

00:39:03.000 And what do we get?

00:39:04.000 Like cheap TVs and trinkets and balls and things.

00:39:08.000 And it's just something that ultimately.

00:39:11.000 we can see that China is getting fat and happy off of this relationship. 1.00

00:39:16.000 And by the way, prior to the tariffs, which have been largely successful, and the Chinese have eaten that, by the way, that the, you know, you could say, what are we really gaining in terms of wealth in this country? 0.98

00:39:30.000 And so, you know, Josh Simon had thrown something out earlier and said, you know, hey, why not, if we're going to do this, let's, let's tariff the students.

00:39:37.000 Let's tariff the students 200 percent.

00:39:39.000 I said, you know what?

00:39:39.000 Double it at 400 percent.

00:39:41.000 So they're already paying full tuition compared to, nobody else is paying full tuition.

00:39:44.000 Right, but that money's going, but that money goes directly to the college.

00:39:47.000 Sure.

00:39:48.000 I mean, we end up subsidizing these colleges too.

00:39:50.000 So it's an additional subsidy for us.

00:39:52.000 Right.

00:39:52.000 So it's a subsidy for the college.

00:39:54.000 So the idea being why not have something that actually benefits the country directly?

00:39:58.000 Well, it's keeping them afloat would be the argument.

00:40:00.000 Like a certain I think I've read like fifteen percent of these colleges wouldn't be able to thrive without them.

00:40:04.000 But I had one last thing I don't have I don't have I don't have I don't mind if a lot of I'm not going to get a lot of defense for a lot of the colleges in this country.

00:40:13.000 Well, my alma mater, the University of Buffalo, would probably fail if they didn't have all these foreign students. 1.00

00:40:19.000 One last bit that I wanted to add here though is that I think this is a really easy thing for nationalists on both sides to fearmonger on., and I'm guilty of that myself.

00:40:28.000 If I were a Chinese nationalist, I'd say no, I don't want to send our best and brightest over to the United States to become useful idiots and Chinese spies for the United States. 1.00

00:40:37.000 Oh, we're going to send them there for four years.

00:40:39.000 They're going to get brainwashed into all this bullshit liberal ideology.

00:40:42.000 They're going to start believing trans and gay bullshit and they're going to come bring that back here because that's what they're learning over there.

00:40:48.000 So I feel like it's easy to fear monger in that way.

00:40:52.000 Because in China, they're like, oh, this is, we went through a century of humiliation and now you're going to continue supporting those western dogs who oppressed us for all these centuries. 1.00

00:41:01.000 And you're going to support them economically.

00:41:02.000 That's where you're going to go spend all your money and you're paying top dollar to go to these schools.

00:41:06.000 So I think both sides have an argument to fear monk around here.

00:41:10.000 Having more exchange is something to hyper.

00:41:15.000 Again, if in a vacuum, I think that I get what you're saying that, you know, an exchange is good.

00:41:21.000 I'd love to get to that point in the relationship at some point.

00:41:23.000 I just don't think we're there.

00:41:24.000 I just really don't think we're there.

00:41:25.000 I think we're in a point where it's a total, it's like, it's like we, we, you know, it's like the United States is, is, is like your buddy who's in a toxic relationship with this girl and he's totally, just, just simping all over her, the codependent relationship, totally simping out.

00:41:40.000 And we're like, dude, she treats you like crap.

00:41:43.000 She's always taking your stuff.

00:41:45.000 She doesn't let you do what you want. 0.96

00:41:47.000 Look what's happened to your life.

00:41:48.000 I have a few friends like that.

00:41:50.000 Exactly.

00:41:51.000 We all know that.

00:41:52.000 It begs the question.

00:41:53.000 He just won't listen.

00:41:54.000 What do you think the president's thinking here is then?

00:41:56.000 If not saying he doesn't want to cancel these visas, he wants to double it.

00:41:59.000 I think he's the president thinking here.

00:42:00.000 He wants a good relationship with Xi.

00:42:01.000 Yeah, he's negotiating.

00:42:02.000 He's all about the deal, right?

00:42:03.000 Let's make it easy.

00:42:04.000 Now, I always say this, whenever he's in deal making mode, I do think that he'll throw out things like this that, and people can say like, oh, here's Posobik.

00:42:15.000 He's doing his paid thing.

00:42:16.000 No, no, no, seriously.

00:42:18.000 I think he does throw out things when he's in negotiating mode.

00:42:21.000 And obviously, we know he's working on various trade deals with China.

00:42:25.000 The tariffs have been a huge piece of this as well.

00:42:27.000 So I think it's kind of chalk it up to you sort of the Trump negotiations.

00:42:32.000 I think it's important how he said this.

00:42:33.000 I didn't I didn't see the video on this.

00:42:34.000 I don't know if he just said it fleetingly, like, God, I could entertain that.

00:42:37.000 Or was he like, no, we're going to do this.

00:42:39.000 Like, this is something I want to do.

00:42:41.000 So it all depends on how he stated this.

00:42:43.000 I think if he was just kind of like, you know, that's interesting.

00:42:45.000 I might think about doing it.

00:42:46.000 I think public opinion is generally against it.

00:42:48.000 I'm against it.

00:42:49.000 I'm against it one hundred percent.

00:42:51.000 We saw the AP last week.

00:42:52.000 They're like, we have 55 million visa holders and then they see, oh, 600,000 more.

00:42:56.000 You're just like, I don't care if they're donating me a million dollars.

00:42:56.000 Right.

00:42:59.000 That's pretty nice.

00:43:00.000 But it's like, we're keeping the universities afloat.

00:43:02.000 It's like we have 55 million to get out.

00:43:04.000 Let's 600 million.

00:43:05.000 Maybe this is a backdoor way to drain China. 0.94

00:43:08.000 They're already in a population crash.

00:43:09.000 We're taking an extra half a million of their youngest.

00:43:13.000 Australia can handle it.

00:43:14.000 We're not, I don't, I just reject the idea that we're taking them. 0.98

00:43:17.000 Like bringing them here doesn't mean they become Americans.

00:43:20.000 We're going to indoctrinate them.

00:43:21.000 No, we're not.

00:43:22.000 It just doesn't happen.

00:43:23.000 They can do that on their own.

00:43:24.000 Show me the example of that though.

00:43:26.000 That's not what I mean.

00:43:27.000 Michael, there's a ton of Chinese dissidents in the United States.

00:43:31.000 You have a ton of these different groups that typically go back.

00:43:34.000 They typically go back and they work from China and they get and they're so focused on money.

00:43:38.000 And so there's like Tibetan refuugees, there are Falun Gong refugees that come here, there are people from Hong Kong that also come from here.

00:43:46.000 And I think these are I'm not going to analyze these.

00:43:48.000 They do go to these colleges and I've seen them protest on these colleges before.

00:43:51.000 I've seen 300 people.

00:43:52.000 It might be a small number, but it's not near the majority.

00:43:55.000 Well, yeah, they're also not allowed to protest at all in China, so they're coming from a background and culture that, you know, struggles to express themselves or vote or participate politically.

00:44:06.000 I just think Trump has something up his sleeve here and we should let the guy cook.

00:44:10.000 We should let Trump cook here, guys.

00:44:12.000 Let's not freak out.

00:44:13.000 So this is the argument that was made about opening up to China from the 1980s.

00:44:18.000 And this, you know, the market, this is something I've always been critical of Margaret Thatcher and her government in the handover of Hong Kong, because it kept being this, this refrain over and over that the more we, the more exposure that we have to China, the West has to China, the more democratic they will become and they will have protest groups and you can go back forty years and this is they were saying the exact same thing.

00:44:42.000 And what have we seen?

00:44:43.000 Hong Kong, well, promised fifty years of the special, you know, two systems, one government, two systems.

00:44:48.000 And Xi Jinping just threw that out the window completely.

00:44:50.000 Then it's been a total crackdown.

00:44:52.000 China hasn't become more democratic.

00:44:55.000 If anything, we have become less, far, far less.

00:44:58.000 And I would argue that our exposure, and I would see this when I was over there, you know, briefly was at the Shanghai American Chamber of Commerce and then also worked for another firm doing business there and, you know, trying to help American businesses come into the Chinese market.

00:45:15.000 And what you would see though.

00:45:16.000 was that American business leaders and American politicians would come over and they'd see the CCP system.

00:45:23.000 And this gets what you're saying about the China model.

00:45:25.000 And they would say, oh, this is great.

00:45:27.000 So if I want a maglev, if I want a high-speed rail, like we had one in Shanghai, they have one that kind of goes from the airport almost to downtown, and they just build it.

00:45:35.000 And you say, well, what about the people who live in the way?

00:45:38.000 What about them?

00:45:39.000 You just get rid of them.

00:45:40.000 You tear down those neighborhoods.

00:45:41.000 You just blast them out and then they can go wherever.

00:45:44.000 And so to your point, right, in a system where there is no political, you know, real participation, if in a system where they don't have any rights to be able to defend that, it becomes intoxicating for Western leaders to see that system and say, how can we get some of that as well?

00:46:03.000 Yeah, but this is going to give the illegal immigrants a lot of ammunition if he does this, man, for them to protest and fight back and feel righteous and whether they stay wanting to stay here.

00:46:12.000 I mean, we have to go and they can come.

00:46:13.000 No, no.

00:46:14.000 I'm just saying it's going to give them a lot of that.

00:46:14.000 Right.

00:46:15.000 Sure.

00:46:16.000 That's what they're going to say.

00:46:17.000 They're going to say, what the hell is this?

00:46:19.000 It's going to look very hypocritical.

00:46:21.000 It's going to look bad on Trump.

00:46:22.000 We already have other legal immigrants that come on through different visas.

00:46:25.000 And hey, if we can radicalize Latin America on China being a geopolitical adversary, I mean, that's a win-win. 0.97

00:46:30.000 It's a wedge issue, right?

00:46:31.000 Maybe that's what we're going to do.

00:46:32.000 I do want to keep it, want to be cognitive of the clock.

00:46:35.000 And so I want to get into this, the psycho-Sue story.

00:46:38.000 So we talked about this in the third hour yesterday in the members hour.

00:46:44.000 But Nino, I was thinking that you probably had some takes on this, given that you come from a fight background.

00:46:50.000 I mean, look, it's like they say you talked.

00:46:53.000 Now, the pro wrestling is obviously very different from what you did um pro wrestling's fake okay it's scripted it is scripted but yeah okay it's scripted but i mean like when i was in the dressroom getting ready to fight nobody told me who was going to win right they wanted to kill each other this he was not expecting that beatdown it was premeditated there was a video of uh Jackson's son rampage Jackson's son talking about I'm gonna have you seen the video where he's talking I'm gonna go up there and hit this guy man I'm gonna tag this guy saying all these all

00:47:23.000 these things it was premeditated he was not going along with any kind of script he wasn't gonna fake drop him and then fake slap him he if you see the punches land on this guy's cranium.

00:47:34.000 These are intentionally.

00:47:36.000 He was there to kill that guy, dude.

00:47:37.000 Like that was like five cents.

00:47:39.000 We're now up to 515,000 dollars.

00:47:43.000 So $3,000 extra just since we we mentioned it a couple of minutes ago.

00:47:48.000 I think that's a murder charge, bro.

00:47:50.000 Honestly, attempted murder.

00:47:51.000 I I just I'm so so so walk us through.

00:47:53.000 Especially premeditated.

00:47:54.000 Walk us through if if someone's in that situation.

00:47:58.000 You know, you've been boxing out.

00:47:59.000 There's there's no boxing gloves on in this.

00:48:01.000 So gloves are off literally.

00:48:04.000 He's down.

00:48:05.000 He's bashing you in the head.

00:48:06.000 What happened in that situation physically?

00:48:09.000 Well, he went red, right?

00:48:10.000 He went totally red, he lost his mind.

00:48:12.000 He was whatever, there was something happened before that where he smashed a camera and said he apologized, they became friends again, they were talking.

00:48:19.000 It was a prop.

00:48:20.000 It was like a prop, right.

00:48:21.000 It was like an act.

00:48:23.000 It was a planned act, yeah.

00:48:24.000 This guy took it so personal and it hurt his ego so bad, that fragile ego he has, that he went after him and what he did was uncalled for, man.

00:48:34.000 And then plus the guy wasn't expecting it.

00:48:35.000 You can go up, I've seen that, I've seen this happen.

00:48:37.000 You've probably seen it happen to where guys go up to other guys and it's called stealing their soul or snatching their soul, where you go up to a guy in a club and bam, whack him, knock him out, he's out snoring and you just disappear into the crowd that happened all the time he kind of did that to this guy the guy was not expecting this he got picked up slammed and then when he's there pretending to be like he's out then he starts getting punches delivered to his face that's uncalled for and it was premeditated and there's proof that it was premeditated by him talking about it on the phone to whoever he was talking to someone was recording him say all this so

00:49:08.000 to me how is this in this is this could be like an attempted murder charge that kind of damage what do you say it's attempted murder is it how likely is it that he could have died oh so easy it's a hair man like i mean i'm surprised he didn't with those the blows he took to the head honestly i've seen guys die in sparring, get hit wrong and bap, they're out, ambulance comes or are gone.

00:49:31.000 I've seen it happen in the gym.

00:49:32.000 And those are with 16 ounce gloves, sometimes 18 ounce.

00:49:35.000 I mean, there are heavyweights given, but I mean, I've seen that happen in when I knocked out Owen Beck, he was out for like almost thirty minutes when I knocked him out with a left hook and he was bleeding out of his eyes and his ears.

00:49:45.000 And I thought I took a knee, the crowd got silent, I was scared to death and I think that also affected my career, to be quite honest.

00:49:51.000 But that was intentional.

00:49:52.000 What he did was intentional.

00:49:53.000 He went in there and he dropped that guy on his head and it looked like he tried to kill him.

00:49:56.000 Now to me.

00:49:57.000 And he's using his training.

00:49:58.000 Yes.

00:49:59.000 Yes.

00:49:59.000 And the guy was not expecting that.

00:50:02.000 So I gotta call it what it is.

00:50:05.000 And I think everyone has seen it.

00:50:08.000 And it looks like he's trying to kill the man.

00:50:11.000 Just because it's with your fists, that's still doing a lot of damage.

00:50:15.000 Now he's, by the way, we're up to 116,500.

00:50:19.000 I just refreshed in.

00:50:20.000 So donations are pouring in.

00:50:22.000 That's awesome.

00:50:23.000 I love this.

00:50:23.000 So is he in coma or she's awake?

00:50:26.000 So no, I thought they said he was awake.

00:50:28.000 Okay, my bad.

00:50:28.000 Is he awake?

00:50:29.000 I thought they said let me, I'm just scrolling down.

00:50:31.000 Sometimes they put updates on here.

00:50:34.000 I mean, we can find out what we can.

00:50:35.000 He is, by the way, he's a veteran of the United States Army.

00:50:39.000 And this is crazy.

00:50:40.000 So he was using wrestling as an outlet to deal with his PTSD.

00:50:43.000 Now, one thing that I want to say.

00:50:45.000 Now, I mentioned this yesterday on.

00:50:47.000 the third hour was that there was an affiliation between this independent promotion and the WWE.

00:50:55.000 So this is a situation.

00:50:56.000 I gotta say, they could potentially be looking at a lawsuit, a huge lawsuit from Psycho Stu here if he wanted to pursue that route because, you know, I'm sure you gotta sign waivers.

00:51:09.000 I'm gonna so like when you were boxing, did you ever have to sign waivers with the promoter before they put it on?

00:51:15.000 So, hey, sign half the contracts I signed.

00:51:17.000 I didn't even know what was it.

00:51:18.000 Yeah.

00:51:19.000 No wonder I got screwed.

00:51:21.000 But I mean, I mean, no, I mean, there were times that weigh in, honestly, that that i that i remember the tension was so bad all of a sudden we just started throwing punches like you just you can't predict it it just happens you know but but uh i never looked at a guy and i was like premeditating like i'm gonna just go up and just you know sometimes you're you're staring at each other and then they can't part you and the next thing you know you're like well we got to take this to the next level because i'm not backing down you're not backing down it's on and then we just start fighting that happens it's just the nature of the beast it's the nature of the sport it's just what it is but

00:51:51.000 What I saw in that video is premeditated.

00:51:53.000 He did it without the guy knowing.

00:51:55.000 The guy didn't know that he was going to come get slammed.

00:51:58.000 Maybe he knew.

00:51:58.000 So what you're saying is it's not like one of those weigh-in situations where the tension raises up because he was planning to do that before he got the way.

00:52:07.000 Right.

00:52:07.000 It was premeditated.

00:52:08.000 The guy was unsuspected.

00:52:09.000 He had his back turned to him.

00:52:10.000 He probably knew he was going to go, okay, he's going to come in in the ring, pick me up, slam me, and then whatever.

00:52:14.000 He trusted in him.

00:52:16.000 Whatever the set of moves was.

00:52:18.000 So he had a trust factor in that kid.

00:52:20.000 Like, okay, I know he's probably going to come pick me up, slam me, and then whatever move we decide to do.

00:52:25.000 He does a body slam at first.

00:52:26.000 Right, and then we're going to script whatever happens after that, but he didn't.

00:52:29.000 Bam, bam, bam, bam, and started going to town on the guy.

00:52:32.000 Come on, man.

00:52:34.000 I mean, that's coward.

00:52:36.000 To me, that means coward.

00:52:37.000 I don't know.

00:52:38.000 I don't know how you all look at it, but to me, that's a coward move.

00:52:42.000 There was a lot of, if I understand correctly, there was a lot of people in his chat after the initial bit, I think.

00:52:49.000 Yeah, this is what we were talking about last night.

00:52:50.000 They were calling him names, saying that he was, you know, calling him all kinds of names and basically.

00:52:55.000 Rampage.

00:52:56.000 No, no, Raj is.

00:52:58.000 So because he's a big kick streamer, and they were saying last night that, that's what Andrew Wilson was here last night, and what he was saying was that, I feel like Tim all of a sudden here, because I'm explaining drama, that, don't worry, Tim, I got you, buddy.

00:52:58.000 Yeah, Raj.

00:53:12.000 That his chat was egging him on to do it, you going to let him punk you like that?

00:53:19.000 How are you going to let him get you like that?

00:53:21.000 You got got, you know, he he'd smash that beer in your head.

00:53:24.000 You're just going to let him do that.

00:53:25.000 How old is he?

00:53:26.000 And he's twenty.

00:53:28.000 Yeah, he's super young.

00:53:29.000 You know, I'd say he's twenty, something like that.

00:53:31.000 You're in twenty, Pete.

00:53:32.000 Yeah, he's even younger than me.

00:53:33.000 Yeah.

00:53:34.000 So he's like 20, 21, maybe 22, is he?

00:53:36.000 I'm just going to say 25.

00:53:36.000 I don't know.

00:53:38.000 25, yeah.

00:53:39.000 You know, to me that's still a kid.

00:53:40.000 Ah, Tate's like he's super young.

00:53:42.000 He's older than me.

00:53:43.000 I also feel like Twitch streamers, kick streamers, this is just the concentration of the world's lowest impulse control.

00:53:49.000 Yeah.

00:53:49.000 Like every single person on there is just like a ticking time bomb.

00:53:52.000 So it's actually kind of a miracle.

00:53:53.000 We don't see stuff.

00:53:54.000 Someone in the chat here was saying I was one of the people on his channel.

00:53:58.000 No.

00:54:00.000 I don't think he was charged.

00:54:02.000 Wouldn't you have more respect?

00:54:04.000 But wouldn't you have more respect for him?

00:54:04.000 yeah.

00:54:06.000 I believe they said, I believe they said under investigation.

00:54:09.000 Where did this Phil, where did this happen again?

00:54:11.000 I'm not sure where it happened.

00:54:12.000 Was it, was it, was it, I thought it was, it was Knox Pro.

00:54:16.000 Not well, I don't think it's Knoxville, but it was the Knox.

00:54:18.000 It'd be crazy, it was Knox County with Glenn Jacobs.

00:54:18.000 It's Knox County.

00:54:21.000 But I would have had more respect for the kid if you had challenged him, grabbed the mic and said, let's go right now, me and you, and then Mano and Mano, then go, then okay, but maybe, maybe.

00:54:30.000 But that's kind of the whole point of it, right?

00:54:32.000 But like he did it so unsuspectingly.

00:54:34.000 Then what else is LAPD?

00:54:36.000 Yeah.

00:54:37.000 So I'm no tough guy.y.

00:54:38.000 What was that one that?

00:54:39.000 Yeah, it was in LA.

00:54:42.000 I'm no tough guy, obviously, but there's no honor here in cheap shotting someone.

00:54:48.000 I think if you're a man about it, or I don't know, there's some sort of fighter's honor of like, let's actually fight it.

00:54:54.000 You're not trying to hit people when they're unconscious, I don't think.

00:54:54.000 It's not a code.

00:54:57.000 So, I mean, all of his hits were dirty as far as I'm concerned.

00:55:01.000 100%.

00:55:02.000 And I don't really know what else to say.

00:55:04.000 I hope he gets charged.

00:55:07.000 I saw Rampage's response and considering Raj's his kid, he actually had a really good response.

00:55:13.000 Like, he's like, I'm not going to condemn my kid, but he was dead., but like, you know, I would have.

00:55:17.000 I love him.

00:55:18.000 And I, well, he was, he was like, he's dead.

00:55:20.000 He was definitely wrong in doing it.

00:55:21.000 So he was, he was clear about that.

00:55:23.000 But it was, you know, like, I mean, you know, you're a father.

00:55:26.000 You don't want to sit there and you're not going to get on the internet, Jack.

00:55:29.000 If that's not going to get on the internet and beat up on you.

00:55:31.000 Well, I mean, it depends on what you mean by condemn, right?

00:55:33.000 If that, if that were my son, it would have walked him down to the police station and said, you need to, you need to face for what you did.

00:55:39.000 I agree.

00:55:40.000 100%.

00:55:41.000 That's, that's, that's as a father, right?

00:55:43.000 Is you have to own up to your mistakes.

00:55:46.000 So if you, if you, if you did something, right?

00:55:48.000 Number one, obviously you owe an apology.

00:55:50.000 But number two, you still owe, you have to pay a debt.

00:55:52.000 So a debt must be paid here, whether it's society to society, whether it's to the man directly.

00:55:57.000 Like Rampage needs to give him a good old.

00:55:59.000 That's, oh yeah.

00:56:00.000 Good old.

00:56:00.000 Oh yeah.

00:56:01.000 Yeah.

00:56:02.000 Adrian Penner, I would treat me with the sweat.

00:56:06.000 I would take my kid to the woodshed, you know.

00:56:10.000 You know, maybe, maybe, maybe, you know, metaphysically over, over something like not, not like that.

00:56:16.000 But no way.

00:56:17.000 No, it's that's something where, and by the way, I wouldn't be tweeting about it, you know, like if something like this had happened, I mean, God forbid.

00:56:24.000 But you, I mean, I have to say, you know, it just, it feels to me like this is something that it's, it feels like bad parenting.

00:56:31.000 It does feel like bad parenting.

00:56:32.000 To underscore, I think, a part of this that we didn't address.

00:56:35.000 Well, the biggest issue I think at hand here was his ego control.

00:56:38.000 He couldn't control his ego.

00:56:40.000 He felt like someone had won over him, someone had embarrassed him, and he needed to get revenge.

00:56:46.000 He wasn't able to swallow his pride.

00:56:47.000 And I think that could be a lesson for other people to check your ego, and, you know, having your ego all wound up could get you in some deep shit.

00:56:56.000 You would think that he understood that he's in the wrestling world.

00:57:00.000 This is a job.

00:57:01.000 Yeah.

00:57:01.000 Like, and that's what I mean.

00:57:03.000 Like, the bit was a job.

00:57:04.000 It was after he listened to people, I'm not going to get God anymore.

00:57:06.000 Nor is that going to happen anymore.

00:57:07.000 It was like, who instigated that?

00:57:09.000 The kids on the social media, agging him on.

00:57:11.000 So he was probably looking at all these comments going, I'm like, oh man, I gotta do something.

00:57:14.000 I can't go down the street.

00:57:15.000 Which is ridiculous.

00:57:16.000 It's an ego problem to know what was going on.

00:57:20.000 Like he, you're supposed to go into that scenario, understanding how it goes.

00:57:24.000 This is a he was a work, and that's a wrestling term I'm using.

00:57:28.000 It was a work.

00:57:29.000 He was supposed to take the hit.

00:57:31.000 Then he was going to get him back in the ring.

00:57:33.000 He would knock the guy down, and then those hits aren't supposed to be actually real, but he went.

00:57:38.000 Which by the way, is that real?

00:57:39.000 Exactly.

00:57:40.000 He's the one because, you know, when you look at it, Psycho Stu in the, in the angle, right, in the narrative, he's the one that kind of cold cocks him with the beer outside so it's almost like he was the one taking the cheap shot so I don't know exactly that was part of the work right that's part of the script thing but what I'm saying is it if he was the one doing that then it would have been setting up Raja to kind of be the baby face right to setting him up as a good guy in that where he's the heel so he's the villain and then Raja is going to defeat the villain

00:58:10.000 in the ring right like correct what we're trying to accomplish but he took it massive personally and went out there for a vendetta and just tried to kill the man right and it's and it's it's and I do believe he never should be punished by the law for this I really do I don't see how you walk from this by the way I think stuff like this happens ever every day, every week on a smaller scale in dumb bar fights and people fighting outside of convenience stores and people shooting each other because one person passes him by, steps on his shoes, calls him a name.

00:58:38.000 People's sensitive egos and fragile egos lead to, unfortunately, a lot of senseless violence in our country Yeah,

00:59:47.000 that was all just earlier.

00:59:48.000 I was out here.

00:59:49.000 You had a Tate Lynch.

00:59:50.000 Oh dude, yeah, these West Virginia Knights, man, they get a little wild.

00:59:53.000 They wack you out.

00:59:54.000 These Cracker Barrels get wild.

00:59:55.000 By the way, Tate, can I see your knife?

00:59:57.000 Yeah, just don't worry, it's British approved.

00:59:59.000 Oh, okay, all right.

01:00:00.000 Well, and hey, Segway here because we're talking about British approved knives.

01:00:07.000 This, this, one of the other stories that I've just seen everywhere, absolutely everywhere.

01:00:11.000 That was good.

01:00:12.000 I want to, it actually was a good swag.

01:00:14.000 I'm getting better at this.

01:00:17.000 We don't have a ton of details in terms of names, in terms of everything that's going on, but this was something that was tearing up the interwebs yesterday and ev magazine the great uh ladies over at ev magazine have put this together 14 year old girl from scotland charged after carrying weapons Now,

01:00:39.000 that's an interesting headline because if you look at the video, you perhaps might come away with another idea about who it is, who should be charged, who is the aggressor, and who is the one doing something.

01:00:51.000 Do we have, Search, do we have the actual video?

01:00:53.000 Can we just play this?

01:00:54.000 If I hit that, will it just play?

01:00:56.000 Alright, I'm literally just driving now because this is...

01:01:03.000 All right, I'll take it back.

01:01:03.000 Yeah.

01:01:05.000 So you got this is in Scotland, two girls, I think one is we know one is 14, I think one's the young is the older one 14?

01:01:12.000 Older one.

01:01:12.000 Yeah, the older one's 18.

01:01:14.000 There's someone holding her back.

01:01:15.000 Hey, I'm fucking helping.

01:01:17.000 You're fucking bad and cats me.

01:01:19.000 Why are you fucking with us?

01:01:20.000 These are fucking cat bashers.

01:01:22.000 So don't lie, so don't lie.

01:01:24.000 So don't lie.

01:01:25.000 Get away from us.

01:01:26.000 So don't lie.

01:01:27.000 Don't touch us.

01:01:27.000 So don't lie.

01:01:28.000 That's it.

01:01:29.000 So don't lie.

01:01:29.000 That's it.

01:01:30.000 She's an accident, isn't it?

01:01:32.000 So don't lie.

01:01:33.000 That's the I'm not getting raped face.

01:01:35.000 her inventory is loaded yeah yeah Yeah, who is she yelling at? 1.00

01:01:59.000 So she's yelling at, and I, is this it?

01:02:03.000 No, there's another angle of it where it's basically two migrants.

01:02:09.000 that are coming at her and she's trying to again we're told that she is trying to get away from them and pushes back on this.

01:02:21.000 It brings up a lot of stories about the grooming gangs that have gone up before.

01:02:24.000 Okay, I'm not seeing those pictures.

01:02:25.000 Search, see if you can find the other angle of it.

01:02:30.000 But going back to the going back to the article, she has now been charged.

01:02:35.000 So the police get called, she has now been charged for brandishing weapons, rather a bladed weapon, by the way.

01:02:44.000 This happened in Dundee and you know a little bit about that.

01:02:48.000 So she's been charged for brandishing weapons to try to defend herself against people who were harassed. 0.99

01:02:55.000 There it is.

01:02:55.000 Oh, there it is.

01:02:56.000 Yeah, those are the guys here.

01:02:57.000 I don't know how much I zoom I can get, but they've already assaulted her, right? 0.99

01:03:02.000 They've already they don't know.

01:03:04.000 So I think she's trying to prevent them whatever they were doing.

01:03:04.000 We don't know.

01:03:09.000 She's clearly saying, get away from me.

01:03:11.000 Right.

01:03:11.000 I mean, man.

01:03:14.000 Well, Scotland's Scotland's a weird experiment because England's obviously had this Boris wave of migrants, but they have, what, fifty million people?

01:03:21.000 Scotland has six.

01:03:23.000 So it's like you flood the, you flood, now it's five point five million.

01:03:27.000 So it's like, it doesn't take that many migrants to completely change the look of a city. 1.00

01:03:31.000 In the, in which case Dundee, which is already a pretty rough place, you introduce just a couple hundred migrants.

01:03:36.000 It's really going to destroy the social trust of the city.

01:03:39.000 And that's what you're saying here.

01:03:40.000 So you've been there though.

01:03:41.000 Yeah, I've been to Dundee.

01:03:42.000 How long ago?

01:03:43.000 The last time I was there it would have been last spring.

01:03:45.000 So the spring of the previous year.

01:03:46.000 Oh, it's not long ago at all.

01:03:48.000 So very recently.

01:03:48.000 Yeah.

01:03:49.000 And you were saying you saw some migrants, but not as much as in other places?

01:03:53.000 Yeah, I mean compared to like Glasgow and Edinburgh, you don't see as much.

01:03:56.000 Like Dundee is still a very Scottish place, but it's a more working class town.

01:04:01.000 They already had, they had drug, drug issues, unfortunately.

01:04:05.000 And like I said, the migrants coming to Scotland, that's even after the Boris wave, it doesn't take very many to destabilize places like Dundee. 0.99

01:04:12.000 These are not very big cities at all.

01:04:14.000 The first time I ever went to Scotland was, I think, in 20084, 2005, and then the last time I was there was in 2019 and it's noticeably different.

01:04:26.000 If you go to Govan in Glasgow, like twenty years ago, it was 100% Scottish.

01:04:31.000 It was like an Irish Catholic neighborhood.

01:04:32.000 And you go there now and it literally feels like the Middle East and it's like, you know, you see these things at London.

01:04:37.000 It's like even in London it still feels to some degree reminiscent of England.

01:04:40.000 Like Govan, you have like people feeling animals.

01:04:43.000 A lot of London feels like that.

01:04:44.000 Yeah, I mean, look, it's like it's unbelievable in Glasgow.

01:04:48.000 Yeah, I've been, I haven't been to Scotland.

01:04:50.000 I've been to Dublin though on the Irish side and it's the same people that are there have absolutely been abused by their government because they don't they didn't ask for this.

01:04:59.000 They were never there was no vote.

01:05:01.000 Yeah, they vote against it all the time and the government does nothing at all about the violence that the migrants are bringing in and you've got both the UK or both England and Scotland are subject to the same thing. 1.00

01:05:15.000 I think it's up the same kind of thing is going on in Ireland.

01:05:19.000 I'm not sure how bad.

01:05:20.000 Yeah.

01:05:21.000 But I mean, these people have to deal with this.

01:05:23.000 They have to deal with basically changing the whole face of the country.

01:05:29.000 If they say, oh, we don't like this or if they post about it.

01:05:33.000 on Facebook, they go to jail.

01:05:35.000 Yeah, well you're seeing like in Northern Ireland, the Protestants and Catholics coming together.

01:05:39.000 I mean, do you know how, how existencial a threat has to be to bury that hatchet?

01:05:43.000 Right.

01:05:44.000 Oh, in this case, there's a hatchet involved as well.

01:05:46.000 But I mean, yeah, it's totally, totally insane.

01:05:48.000 They're changing the entire composition of a country before our very eyes and they're doing it very rapidly.

01:05:53.000 Completely engineered, right?

01:05:54.000 And they wanted to do that here.

01:05:56.000 They were trying to do that here too.

01:05:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:58.000 And I mean, we have to pull up some of the memes that people are making to stand in solidarity.

01:06:05.000 We don't know her name.

01:06:06.000 There's no GoFundMe or anything in terms of this, but people are just pointing it out.

01:06:11.000 I'm surprised no one's done the Braveheart meme yet.

01:06:14.000 The internet is so crazy.

01:06:15.000 They've done that.

01:06:15.000 Have you seen the Braveheart?

01:06:16.000 I haven't seen it.

01:06:17.000 I've seen her with the... 0.99

01:06:19.000 They keep the pants on, but the kilt, the same.

01:06:21.000 The show.

01:06:23.000 Here's one.

01:06:24.000 This is great.

01:06:25.000 From SKS Cartoon.

01:06:27.000 Make sure you go follow him.

01:06:28.000 Why aren't there any men helping us?

01:06:30.000 Britain has no men. 0.93

01:06:32.000 That's really poignant.

01:06:32.000 We're on our own.

01:06:34.000 Why are there no men that will stand up and say, this is unacceptable?

01:06:40.000 There is, but they're all in jail, like at Southport.

01:06:42.000 As soon as anybody tried to do something about it, they throw you in jail and don't explain it.

01:06:46.000 We know what's crazy is, isn't it...

01:06:48.000 I think it's today or yesterday was the five year anniversary of Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:06:52.000 Yeah.

01:06:53.000 And I saw that was going around a lot.

01:06:55.000 And I remember when that happened live, I was watching it live.

01:06:58.000 I remember, obviously, I've come to Oak Hill, I've covered the case, et cetera.

01:07:02.000 And this was the exact same argument that I kept making.

01:07:04.000 They were like, why is a 17-year-old out there doing this?

01:07:08.000 Like, why is he the only one out there?

01:07:10.000 Yeah.

01:07:10.000 Where are the adults?

01:07:11.000 Like, where are the adults?

01:07:12.000 Where are the people who put him in a situation where he's thinking somebody's going to be 17, right?

01:07:19.000 16, 17, 17.

01:07:20.000 Wow.

01:07:21.000 You're 17.

01:07:22.000 So not much older than this girl.

01:07:24.000 He became a man overnight just like that.

01:07:24.000 Yeah.

01:07:26.000 I mean, he's a man.

01:07:26.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah.

01:07:28.000 What happened to that kid now?

01:07:29.000 It's like we all should have been there.

01:07:31.000 He does he does work in the two A community.

01:07:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:33.000 Yeah, and I mean, the UK is kind of an interesting case too.

01:07:33.000 Okay.

01:07:37.000 Like they actually have more of a propensity to push back on these sorts of things.

01:07:40.000 I think probably because it's denser areas, it's easier to organize quickly versus the United States.

01:07:45.000 But the UK cracks down much harder.

01:07:47.000 I mean, you tweet the wrong thing and you're gone.

01:07:49.000 They did the studio ghibli me.

01:07:51.000 Yeah.

01:07:53.000 But I mean, the people.

01:07:54.000 Yeah, there's the brave art.

01:07:56.000 The people in...

01:08:04.000 Unfortunately, you know, you can't and they've allowed their government to imprison people.

01:08:09.000 Like there are enough people that can stand up and go stand outside of the magistrate's office and say, let those guys out of jail.

01:08:15.000 Right?

01:08:15.000 Like if if I if someone goes because this one, this, there it is.

01:08:19.000 I don't know.

01:08:20.000 That's not necessarily braveheart.

01:08:22.000 It's sort of a crusader.

01:08:23.000 It's a crusader chic.

01:08:25.000 But even still, I mean, it's sentiments there.

01:08:28.000 Yeah, Joan of Arc is the one that comes to mind.

01:08:30.000 It just seems like a Joan of Arc.

01:08:32.000 Just think how close we were to being like that as a society if Kamala would have won, dude. 0.91

01:08:36.000 I mean, seriously, think of the chaos, how crazy things would have been.

01:08:40.000 Yeah.

01:08:40.000 I mean, well, the UK is interesting because it does feel like a testing ground for what they want to implement.

01:08:44.000 Oh, yeah, it is.

01:08:45.000 To a large degree.

01:08:46.000 It will be worse here because they're not going to be able to get rid of it.

01:08:49.000 Be careful, just like scrolling through Twitter on this, you know, you never know what's going to pop up.

01:08:54.000 Seriously, the fact that the United States has so many guns, you're not getting rid of them.

01:08:59.000 So things like this, it wouldn't just be, you know, some girl fighting with knives, and it also means that the aggressive people that are, that are looking to violate other people's rights, they're going to have guns as well. 0.94

01:09:12.000 Right.

01:09:12.000 So you're going to like the idea of a civil war or something that turns into, you know, serious problems, like it would be much worse in the United States than in the UK.

01:09:22.000 Oh, much worse.

01:09:23.000 Yeah.

01:09:24.000 Well, and also the sources of migration, uh, that's what separates Europe from the US is most of our migration over the last few decades has been from Latin America, which culturally obviously still different, but more similar to the US versus Europe.

01:09:37.000 It's coming from the Middle East and North Africa, a vastly different civilization. 0.97

01:09:40.000 Well, now the US is starting to get migrants from the Middle East, North Africa and also South Asia who are dramatically different from us. 0.86

01:09:48.000 And so the UK is a bit of a trailer for that.

01:09:50.000 They're setting up whole communities in Texas like Plano.

01:09:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:53.000 All Sharia Muslims.

01:09:54.000 I mean, it's crazy, like massive communities being funded by deer, all of them connected to deerborn different cities in America, all interconnected.

01:10:03.000 I mean, it was about to kick off here, I think.

01:10:07.000 And then I think Trump man came in and what he's doing right now with the troops and everything he's doing is exactly what I voted for.

01:10:14.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:10:15.000 Well, in Texas you get the big monkey statue.

01:10:17.000 I mean, it's like, you know, it's great.

01:10:17.000 Yeah.

01:10:19.000 It's like, oh, this won't stand in Texas, but it's like, it's happening everywhere.

01:10:22.000 So it's like, you could say, Oh, well, let Zoran, you know, sink New York City.

01:10:22.000 Right.

01:10:26.000 It's like, there's monkey statues in Texas.

01:10:27.000 Like, this is a nationwide problem.

01:10:29.000 Well, that what Trump's doing right now with the cleanup is the cure has to be greater than the disease.

01:10:33.000 It just does.

01:10:34.000 And that's what he's doing.

01:10:35.000 The cure right now is that, and, you know, people can say what they want, but he's doing exactly what we voted him in for.?

01:10:41.000 Yeah, so it's like, I mean, the UK, the UK is in serious, serious trouble.

01:10:44.000 I mean, like I said earlier, they're able to organize a bit quicker just because of how their society and communities are structured.

01:10:50.000 But, I mean, the fact you can't even tweet like very, very innocent stuff going to jail.

01:10:55.000 I mean, I agree with you, like the men do need to be stepping up.

01:10:58.000 But like I said earlier, a lot of the men that have stepped up are in jail.

01:11:00.000 Because, like, you saw with Southport, now you're seeing it where they're Because you can't even whisper something when you go to jail.

01:11:05.000 You can't even hang a Saint George's cross up on a lamp post.

01:11:08.000 That's how they get to jail.

01:11:10.000 They're always like all the guys that are doing that, right.

01:11:12.000 Always wearing a ass to conceal their identity and stuff.

01:11:15.000 With all the problems we have in the US, it's like, that is not something you have to do.

01:11:17.000 Well, here's the thing., if you do defend the girl, here's what happens.

01:11:20.000 You become the next Daniel Penny, or I think there was just a story of some guy in Germany who defended some chick that was on a bus or something.

01:11:27.000 It turned up into a slice, a slice of cake.

01:11:27.000 It was America.

01:11:29.000 It was America.

01:11:31.000 The face was all cut up.

01:11:32.000 You become the next Daniel Penny, but you don't have the same outcome as Daniel Penny because the jury put you in jail for the rest of your life.

01:11:38.000 That's the best case.

01:11:39.000 Worst case is you just get stabbed or killed and nobody praises you more or less, or you're demonized if anything goes wrong.

01:11:48.000 There's a there's a lot that goes on and specifically in Scotland, I know it well that happens incidents like this happening in Glasgow and Edinburgh and Dundee and Aloha.

01:11:56.000 And it's kind of off the books a little bit, like this stuff kind of gets resolved away from the peering eyes of cameras and that sort of thing.

01:12:04.000 This just happened to be an incident where it's been captured.

01:12:07.000 It's time there's some pushback off camera.

01:12:10.000 It's time for the CIA to start running guns to England, to the underground in England.

01:12:16.000 The CIA has done it.

01:12:18.000 The CIA has done it all over the world.

01:12:19.000 They can do it in the UK.

01:12:21.000 Start, you know, let's get on top of each other.

01:12:23.000 If there's anyone in Langley listening, you know, watching regime change, I can get behind this.

01:12:28.000 So, I mean, look, I'm telling you, man, you go and you take back the UK, right?

01:12:33.000 We should go and mass in France, go over the channel, take back the UK, and then we're head heading to Jerusalem. 0.98

01:12:39.000 Yeah, like, you know, I'm of English stock.

01:12:41.000 The UK is kind of like my Israel in a lot of ways.

01:12:43.000 It's kind of the holy land.

01:12:44.000 You know, you go there.

01:12:45.000 You guys have a wall over there.

01:12:46.000 Well, English breakfast.

01:12:47.000 It feels connected.

01:12:49.000 It's Hadrian's wall.

01:12:50.000 Yeah, Hadrian's wall.

01:12:53.000 So it's a beautiful thing Right.

01:12:58.000 It's not doing its job.

01:13:00.000 You know, put a few extra feet on it.

01:13:02.000 But this reminds me a little bit of the funniest thing that Tim's ever said.

01:13:06.000 It was the after show.

01:13:07.000 And then he had like a caller from Ireland saying that he wants to immigrate to the United States.

01:13:11.000 And he was like, no, stay in Ireland.

01:13:13.000 And like, if there were enough immigrants that went to Ireland, like, they'd take over and they'd take over and they take back Northern Ireland unlike you native Irish people who would never have the boss to do that. 0.95

01:13:20.000 It was the most audacious thing.

01:13:22.000 It was like, yo, make Ireland great again.

01:13:24.000 Yeah, it was a very damn moment.

01:13:25.000 I was like, yeah, that's my boss.

01:13:28.000 I miss that guy, huh?

01:13:29.000 Yeah.

01:13:29.000 No, there's there's there's there's a lot going on.

01:13:31.000 We covered, we covered a protest that was going on in Kerry in Ireland not too long ago and they had tens of thousands of people were out and it was on remigration.

01:13:41.000 It was about take back Ireland. 0.84

01:13:44.000 Conor McGregor, of course, has been out, you know, very much outspoken on this, you know, kind of flirting with the idea of even running for president, talking about this kind of thing that we need to take back Ireland for the Irish.

01:13:55.000 And it's it's really amazing, right?

01:13:56.000 When you look at places like Ireland, like Scotland, that have fought for their independence for so long and have fought tooth and nail, right?

01:14:04.000 So Ireland, you know, an example, has fought the British for, you know, hundreds of years in, in, you know, if you look at the totality of it, in order to get back their Ireland, to get their island back.

01:14:16.000 And then they'll sit there and say, Oh, but we also have, you know, have to let in, you know, so many people.

01:14:20.000 Oh, well, the Irish went everywhere. 1.00

01:14:22.000 So sure Jesus.

01:14:23.000 Sure Jesus, we should be, we should be allowing them to come here.

01:14:26.000 And you're like, Wait, what?

01:14:28.000 Yeah.

01:14:29.000 It's just ridiculous.

01:14:30.000 Isn't that a part of Catholicism and like there are a lot of different Catholic charities and as I understand in our country who do want to advance a lot more What's up?

01:14:39.000 Immigration of Catholicism.

01:14:42.000 But it's based on faith.

01:14:46.000 There are readings of it, but I would say I would argue that those are false interpretations.

01:14:50.000 But yes, certainly Catholicism.

01:14:52.000 A lot of false interpretations, but very common false interpretations.

01:14:55.000 Certainly Catholic charities, yeah.

01:14:56.000 There's Catholic charities, there's Lutherans, there's other religions have this as well.

01:15:01.000 So it's, you know, it's one that's a huge, huge problem where where they come in.

01:15:06.000 I don't know how big they are specifically in Ireland.

01:15:09.000 It wouldn't surprise me though.

01:15:10.000 If it was also going on, Pope Leo's for immigration, right?

01:15:14.000 I mean, that's what he's Yeah, Pope Leo has said that he's for immigration, he's for, you know, for open borders and he's he's spoken out and it's like for all of the good that I think that he said about other things that, you know, one of the things that and, you know, CNN was, you know, because we covered the conclave over there in Rome and they were they were coming to me for saying, look, you know, I don't think this is the conservative candidate that conservatives wanted and that's and I get all my, all my TradCath bros be like, what do you mean?

01:15:40.000 You know, he's, you know, he's got the vestments and he's like open to the Latin mass and this and he's good on same-sex marriage and he's good on abortion.

01:15:48.000 I think he was perfectly right.

01:15:50.000 I say, yeah, but it's going to go against the issue.

01:15:54.000 Borders is the issue.

01:15:55.000 He hasn't really been coming out against Trump, to be fair.

01:15:57.000 He hasn't really been.

01:15:58.000 No, I mean open statements.

01:15:59.000 The ones about open borders, immigration. 0.69

01:16:01.000 What do you think that says to us?

01:16:02.000 He's been undercutting, for sure.

01:16:04.000 But he hasn't been in the way Francis was.

01:16:06.000 I mean, right, right.

01:16:07.000 He hasn't been this direct.

01:16:08.000 But at the same time, open borders and mass migration is the seminal.

01:16:14.000 issue of our time.

01:16:15.000 There's no, and there's no question specifically in the West.

01:16:19.000 And if you're going to sit there and act like it's not an issue.

01:16:21.000 And it's a, it's part of the globalist agenda, right?

01:16:24.000 One hundred percent.

01:16:24.000 It's destabilization of our countries.

01:16:26.000 Right.

01:16:27.000 And so he's kind of like an opposing vector to Trump, which is kind of like they've chosen this guy from Chicago, they bring him in, he wants open borders.

01:16:35.000 I'm surprised he hasn't been as voiced as I mean, I haven't really heard much from him.

01:16:38.000 Like I thought he was going to be much more of a thorn in Trump's side than he is.

01:16:42.000 Well, there was a read on that, but one of the other big issues too is that the Vatican's kind of broke right now, and church collections have been down, revenues.

01:16:52.000 The Vatican's broke?

01:16:54.000 Absolutely.

01:16:54.000 Holy wow.

01:16:56.000 I never thought I'd ever hear that.

01:16:57.000 Go, go check out some of the Vatican Bank scandals that have gone on lately.

01:17:01.000 The huge London real estate scandals they've been involved in.

01:17:04.000 Just, just, you know, the money's down.

01:17:06.000 Money's down.

01:17:08.000 So worldwide for the Catholics. 0.99

01:17:10.000 And, you know, they can point to numbers that have been church growth in Africa and South America, but that hasn't led to the type of money that you'd need to come in.

01:17:20.000 And in places like where I'm from, the Philadelphia area, I mean, we just, you see churches closing every day.

01:17:24.000 Yeah, less and less people are going and more people are on Zoom and more people are doing it.

01:17:28.000 Yeah, and so, and so one of the reasons, one of the other reasons that they wanted to choose an American Pope is because, you know, given the combativeness that Pope Francis had and a lot of the confusion, I think that a lot of his policies were going towards some of those really big dollars America's America's the world's largest economy.

01:17:45.000 Are you Catholics?

01:17:46.000 I am, yeah.

01:17:47.000 So I was raised, I was an altar boy.

01:17:49.000 Oh, there you go.

01:17:50.000 Yeah, so was I. And so they want to get more access to that American big dollar market. 0.96

01:17:56.000 Right, right.

01:17:57.000 And they think you get an American that's someone who can walk right at Villanova University, which is in the Philly area.

01:18:02.000 So I almost went to Villanova, you know, where he went as a bachelor.

01:18:06.000 So I mean, it's a huge, huge Catholic.

01:18:08.000 You attend church?

01:18:08.000 Do you go to church?

01:18:09.000 Every week, yeah.

01:18:10.000 Really, see, I wish you'd be better than that, better man than I. I mean, I try to read the Bible as much as I can, but yeah, I mean, I've kind of fallen away from the Catholic Church at least.

01:18:20.000 Check out, check out Latin Mass.

01:18:21.000 Check out Latin Mass.

01:18:22.000 It's great.

01:18:23.000 It's like the old school, it's hardcore, right?

01:18:28.000 No English.

01:18:29.000 Well, the homily, like the story in English.

01:18:32.000 But it's way more traditional and I think a lot more solemn than the modern Vatican II.

01:18:40.000 Okay, so you are for this Pope or against this Pope?

01:18:46.000 I see a lot of good in terms of some of those traditional items, but I just think he's got to get his head right on immigration. 0.99

01:18:55.000 I think it's the biggest issue.

01:18:57.000 So I mean, I think it's worth mentioning too that I know a Jewish person talking a lot about Catholicismholicism is a little bit different than the global brand of Catholicism.

01:19:07.000 The American Catholicism is a lot more right wing than global Catholicism.

01:19:11.000 It's worth mentioning that there's different strains even in America though.

01:19:15.000 No, but worldwide, generally, as I understand, our version, our American version of Catholicism is a little bit more right-wing.

01:19:24.000 I think it's also worth mentioning, forty percent of Catholics are from Latin America.

01:19:29.000 So I feel like it would make sense for the Pope to be very open to immigration.

01:19:33.000 And towards people in Latin America and East America.

01:19:36.000 And he spent a ton of his career as a priest down in Peru.

01:19:41.000 It makes sense because that's where global Catholicism, I'm reading right now, there's 500 some odd million Catholics in Latin America.

01:19:48.000 That's huge growth in South America, Latin America and in Africa, but at the same time, and Asia as well.

01:19:55.000 But at the same time, they just don't have the economic pull that Americans do. 0.86

01:19:59.000 Yeah.

01:20:00.000 I'm saying it stands to reason why there would be some, you know, religious affinity for Latin Americans who are Catholic and that Catholic organizations in our country would want to try to reach out to these people and help them because they believe in Jesus and they believe the same things they do and on a religious affiliation.

01:20:19.000 So what's great though is that, you know, and you do have these different strains of political thought arising from Catholicism and that, you know, for, for, like the Trad Caths, you know, we would kind of point more towards Cardinal Sarah, who is African, but he and a Cardinal of the Church, but he would say, you know, people should go back to their home countries because this dilution is causing confusion, it's causing destabilization, it's causing all the issues.

01:20:43.000 But if you were, if you were a globalist, wouldn't he be the perfect pick, Pope Leo?

01:20:49.000 Wouldn't he be the perfect plant to go against Trump?

01:20:52.000 I mean, give the immigrants the righteous indignation to fight against against Trump, to feel righteous about what they're doing.

01:21:00.000 Choose a guy that's from Chicago, choose a Pope that's open borders.

01:21:03.000 Do you get what I'm saying?

01:21:04.000 That to me, that's just like the perfect plant.

01:21:04.000 Yeah.

01:21:07.000 And I, you know, that's how I see it, you know.

01:21:07.000 Absolutely.

01:21:10.000 I mean, conspiracy theorists, but that's what I see.

01:21:10.000 Yeah.

01:21:12.000 I mean, really, that's what you're saying.

01:21:15.000 It's good for the Catholic brands, personally.

01:21:16.000 Right.

01:21:17.000 I mean, well, it's kind of what you're saying.

01:21:20.000 Like, you get this thing online where you'll see, especially like, really Trad Cat types like chess beat, and they'll post a map showing, like, how widespread Catholicism has become in the United States.

01:21:29.000 But then it overlaps with, like, migration from Latin America over the last thirty years.

01:21:34.000 So it's like, because if you look at it broadly, if you look at the demographics of the United States, the religious demographics., there's been a huge outflow of Catholics into non denominational churches.

01:21:44.000 In my opinion, it doesn't matter if there's an influx or an uptick in how many Catholics there are, if too many of them are liberation theology Catholics.

01:21:54.000 Sure, which is what you get from South America.

01:21:56.000 Yeah, which is exactly, yeah.

01:21:58.000 That's just leftism.

01:21:59.000 Like having Is that true?

01:22:01.000 I'm not familiar with liberation theology.

01:22:04.000 That's the brand of leftist infiltration of the Catholic Church using the word of God to forward leftist agendas.

01:22:04.000 It's leftist.

01:22:14.000 I mean, it's because Marxism, when Marxism goes to to different areas, what it does is it adapts to whatever the climate of that area is, right?

01:22:22.000 The political climate, the cultural climate.

01:22:24.000 And so because Latin America was and South America were already Catholic, they said, okay, well, we're going to combine through, like, almost like a, uh, this does syncretalism, this idea of, okay, we're going to put it's, it's what's Catholic and we're supporting the rights of the people to migrate, but it's also Marxist, right?

01:22:45.000 Which is, which is weird because It seems contradictory.

01:22:48.000 It seems contradictory because typically when the Marxists do take it, it is contradictory.

01:22:52.000 The very first thing they do in places like, oh,, I don't know, Catholic France or Catholic Spain, or start killing the priests and raping the nuns on the altar and smashing churches. 0.75

01:23:03.000 And you see that this is in Mexico.

01:23:05.000 They do it again and again and again.

01:23:06.000 But to your point, it's this other strain of Marxism that's infiltrating through the church.

01:23:12.000 When people say that Marxism will take over whatever you love and wear it like a skin suit, that's not just a figure of speech.

01:23:20.000 That is how Marxism operates.

01:23:21.000 Well, they've done it to the churches.

01:23:22.000 They've done it to the churches.

01:23:23.000 But they've also done it to the mainline churches in the US.

01:23:25.000 I mean, you look at historically who were the founding fathers?

01:23:28.000 They're like episcopalians, they're presbyterian.

01:23:30.000 And you look at those denominations now.

01:23:32.000 And it's like, that's where you get the Pride flags, the lesbian preachers and everything.

01:23:35.000 Like a sort of legal nightmare.

01:23:38.000 I was at the National Prayer Service that right after Trump got inaugurated with JD Vance, and we had the female bishop in the National Cathedral.

01:23:48.000 And I was like, well, you know, okay, first time seeing a lady priest. 0.85

01:23:54.000 Let's see how this goes.

01:23:55.000 And then, and what does she do?

01:23:56.000 Isn't she talking trash to Trump right there?

01:23:58.000 Yeah, she starts giving a homily or a sermon.

01:24:01.000 She gives a sermon saying that people that no one is illegal and people shouldn't be deported.

01:24:06.000 And you can see the president kind of sitting there like, what's going on?

01:24:11.000 And we're just we're just a couple of rows back and it got really very uncomfortable.

01:24:17.000 Uncomfortable for everybody.

01:24:18.000 What is he going to do something?

01:24:19.000 So, to credit to him, being a gentleman, he didn't say anything or do anything at the time.

01:24:26.000 But I think even before he made it back to the White House, he's up on Truth Social.

01:24:31.000 Yeah, he went right at it.

01:24:32.000 But that's what the Marxists are doing, right?

01:24:34.000 They're taking, they're taking over the schools, indoctrination camps, the churches.

01:24:38.000 It's all captured operations.

01:24:41.000 All captured operations.

01:24:42.000 I mean, every institution and organization now has been captured and we're trying to untangle that web right now with Trump.

01:24:49.000 and break free from this.

01:24:50.000 Well, while we're talking about that, we had a huge debate last night about freedom of speech and whether burning a flag constitutes freedom of speech.

01:25:00.000 This is going viral.

01:25:02.000 I've gotten so many messages about it.

01:25:04.000 Great discussion.

01:25:06.000 And so here, here, and I'd love to, by the way, for all of those people who were so supportive of the rights to burn the American flag.

01:25:16.000 Okay, all right, that's your, that's your statement.

01:25:18.000 That's freedom of speech.

01:25:20.000 Are you also going to support the freedom of speech of Shiloh Hendrix?

01:25:25.000 Of course.

01:25:26.000 Because Shiloh Hendrix has now been charged.

01:25:31.000 So who is Shiloh Hendrix?

01:25:32.000 Let's remember this.

01:25:35.000 She became viral for language that she used at a Rochester Park in a video that went viral.

01:25:41.000 This is out of the Minnesota Star Tribune.

01:25:44.000 She has hurled racial slurs.

01:25:46.000 Now, this claims that she hurled them at a child, although that's not what we see in the video.

01:25:52.000 And it says she is being charged.

01:25:53.000 Search, can we get, can we see what she was charged with or is there a paywall on this thing? 0.90

01:25:58.000 So I'm new to this.

01:25:59.000 Is there a white woman yelling at a black kid or a black woman? 1.00

01:26:02.000 a white woman and we're told that there was an altercation between her and What we see in the video is another guy who's sort of following her, chasing her, harassing her, saying, I'm filming you.

01:26:21.000 I'm going to make you famous.

01:26:21.000 I'm coming.

01:26:23.000 Puts it on TikTok.

01:26:24.000 It racks up millions and millions.

01:26:26.000 Now she's famous.

01:26:28.000 She made her million dollars.

01:26:30.000 She uses, yeah, she says the N word in the video, says it to a child though.

01:26:35.000 Well, she's saying it to the guy filming in the video.

01:26:38.000 Now he's saying that he claimed that she said it to the child.

01:26:42.000 I want to give out what did she, what was she charged with?

01:26:46.000 She said, you know, she admitted to calling him the offensive.

01:26:49.000 Disorderly conduct.

01:26:51.000 And said that she can call him that if he acts like one.

01:26:53.000 So she kind of admits saying it in the video.

01:26:56.000 So even though we don't have the video of it, she admits it in this later video.

01:27:00.000 What's he been charged with?

01:27:01.000 Three counts of disorderly conduct.

01:27:04.000 I can see the disorderly conduct, right?

01:27:07.000 She raised a ton of money on Gives and Go.

01:27:10.000 This was in the wake of Carmelo Anthony.

01:27:11.000 And I want to...

01:27:16.000 Do we know how much money she raised? 0.94

01:27:17.000 I think it was a million, right?

01:27:18.000 It was a million.

01:27:19.000 I think it was a million.

01:27:21.000 I don't know what it's exactly at right now.

01:27:23.000 But I believe she raised a million dollars off of this.

01:27:26.000 Here we go.

01:27:26.000 Wow.

01:27:27.000 Here we go.

01:27:28.000 Freedom of speech for, by the way, and I'm just going to say it for saying a word that black people say all the time to each other all the time. 0.55

01:27:35.000 All the time.

01:27:35.000 Yeah.

01:27:36.000 They don't land the R. Was he landing the R?

01:27:39.000 I mean, they just say, oh, so, and this, but this is the debate I want to get into, right?

01:27:43.000 So the debate is that for all of the people who say that it's freedom of speech to burn a flag, then what about Shiloh Hendrix's freedom of speech to, to call a child of the same.

01:27:56.000 It is freedom of speech.

01:27:58.000 You should be able to say what the hell you want to say in America.

01:28:00.000 Now, whether it's whether we agree with it or not, that's up to that person..

01:28:03.000 But if this guy wants to call me a dirty spic, he can call me a dirty spic all the time.

01:28:08.000 But what if I want to come up to your child and call your child a dirty spic? 1.00

01:28:10.000 That's your I'll knock you out. 0.99

01:28:11.000 Well, then yeah, but I mean still, it's his freedom of speech, right?

01:28:15.000 Sure, yeah.

01:28:15.000 Okay, so it saves you from consequences from the government, but not necessarily what we're getting.

01:28:20.000 But was she just going up?

01:28:23.000 No, and again, like I don't know, was there more to the story?

01:28:25.000 I think there's I think, I think, and I don't know if the video were up.

01:28:30.000 Are you Hispanic?

01:28:30.000 I would never knock you out.

01:28:32.000 No, that's what he said.

01:28:33.000 He did say though.

01:28:34.000 Go no bar after this.

01:28:35.000 But she said that the kid was going through her bag was like., so when you go, and I'll just say this, having, you know, taken the kids to, you know, the playground, to the park, you, you know, you have like your baby bag, your kid bag that's there, you bring, you know, some drinks, some food, some whatever, it's, it's there.

01:28:35.000 He did.

01:28:54.000 And then someone starts going through your bag and you're like, hey, that's, you know, that's not.

01:28:58.000 But it was a child, it was just a child doing it.

01:29:00.000 It was the child that was going through it.

01:29:01.000 Sweetheart, it was a weed bag.

01:29:03.000 We don't know exactly what happened before the video.

01:29:06.000 And that's what I want to say.

01:29:07.000 And I always say that with viral videos, that whenever you see some video that goes crazy viral that's going out, George Floyd is, you know, of course, the quintessential example of this.

01:29:17.000 Show me what happened five minutes before, before I have to come in, you know, and and, you know, pass judgment because if we don't have that rule, if you don't have the five minutes rule, then all of a sudden we're going to become this country that's just ruled by whatever video is going.

01:29:33.000 Because everyone's a reactionary.

01:29:34.000 That shouldn't be our system.

01:29:37.000 So I think the conversation that we're having, the ideas that we're debating with, is it's a very complex free speech issue that we're dealing with.

01:29:46.000 I think a quote that's often misattributed to Voltaire, it succinctly describes what we're working with.

01:29:51.000 Like he allegedly said, I know I'm misattributing this quote, but I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend it to death your right to say it.

01:29:58.000 I think the idea here is that, let's say, a government that you don't like eventually comes to power and has other things that they want to allege could potentially produce riots, and therefore you shouldn't be able to burn trans flags.

01:30:12.000 So it really depends.

01:30:12.000 The issue is giving the government the power to do that.

01:30:14.000 You already can't burn a trans flag. 0.99

01:30:16.000 You can burn a trans flag, as far as I'm concerned, as far as you're concerned, but I'm saying No, the actual law is actually concerned.

01:30:23.000 I think you're misattributing a story that didn't exactly align with someone actually burning a trans flag.

01:30:28.000 Also, it's worth mentioning that the law that's actually passed is in regard to, like, you definitely have to do that.

01:30:32.000 Somebody burning a flag and then inciting a riot as a result of it, trying to incite a riot, I think think is what the actual charges here.

01:30:40.000 But it's like how far we covered that last night.

01:30:43.000 We like I made that distinction.

01:30:44.000 What was the story of somebody burning the trans flag?

01:30:47.000 I'm talking about the American flag EO.

01:30:49.000 We we I made the distinction that what was passed yesterday, it was basically taking that idea that you're not going to you're not going to be charged directly for the burning of the flag, but it's the incitement.

01:31:01.000 Yeah.

01:31:02.000 So it's an additional additional other things.

01:31:05.000 I think this would be a limit on free speech, although I am very conflicted.

01:31:09.000 I love our country.

01:31:10.000 I love the country's values.

01:31:11.000 I love what the flag symbolizes.

01:31:14.000 But I am conflicted on using the law and trying to arrest people and using law enforcement as a result of that.

01:31:21.000 And where would we eventually draw the line and will eventually these laws be used against me?

01:31:25.000 One of the things that people consistently were saying to me on Twitter is, first of all, they were like, well, you know, all this stuff about the trans flag or people that were doing burnout on the rainbow crosswalks and blah, blah, blah, that is all the idea that anyone should be prosecuted for that is also ridiculous, right?

01:31:43.000 Like that shouldn't be any kind of defense because no one that burns a trans flag or does a burnout on a rainbow cross, none of them should actually be prosecuted.

01:31:54.000 There should never be an arrest.

01:31:55.000 People bring up hate crimes.

01:31:57.000 I don't think that hate crimes are real because hate crimes are thought crimes.

01:32:00.000 Right.

01:32:00.000 Like there should not be any hate crimes.

01:32:02.000 If you commit a violent act to someone, that's what you're, you should be prosecuted for.

01:32:07.000 All hate crime is a thought crime and that is outside the realm of the government.

01:32:12.000 So like when this case These are not particularly complex.

01:32:15.000 Getting it back to Shiloh Hendrix, we have we now have word crime.

01:32:19.000 Yeah, of course, of course.

01:32:20.000 So let's think about that, right?

01:32:23.000 You know, if if if if if she had cursed and I'm just going to play Devil's Advocate, if she had cursed at the child, would she be charged?

01:32:30.000 Probably not.

01:32:31.000 Like get the evidence.

01:32:32.000 Get the F. Get the F. Get the F. But if she said, get the F away from my bag, which she may have said, which you'd probably be getting charged.

01:32:39.000 No.

01:32:39.000 So what I'm saying is she's kind of in the right.

01:32:39.000 Right.

01:32:41.000 The kid was basically with her property.

01:32:43.000 I mean, I can see that, but she shouldn't have handled that like that.

01:32:47.000 But I think it's rude.

01:32:49.000 It's very rude, right?

01:32:50.000 But that's it.

01:32:51.000 But did she go ballistic and crazy afterwards and keep yelling at the kid? 0.99

01:32:54.000 Is that what happened?

01:32:55.000 I haven't even seen it.

01:32:56.000 We don't know.

01:32:57.000 Right.

01:32:57.000 We don't know exactly what happened.

01:32:59.000 And that's getting back to my five minutes rule.

01:33:01.000 We don't know exactly what happened.

01:33:02.000 But what I'm saying is, this was a playground thing, right?

01:33:06.000 You know, these things happen all the time on playgrounds where there's some altercation, something goes wrong.

01:33:11.000 It doesn't seem like anyone was physically hurt here in any way, thank God.

01:33:16.000 It doesn't seem like.

01:33:17.000 Because if she just said something like, Hey, get out of my bag and then said the N word, and like, Okay, but if she kept calling the kid names and like barating the kid, that's like abuse, right?

01:33:24.000 Right?

01:33:25.000 Kind of?

01:33:26.000 That will come up, I'm sure.

01:33:28.000 But what about the fact that the person who was harassing her caused her to be doxed, caused her, caused them to go after her family, clearly is, and by the way, is also doxing her child, putting it up to get social media clout, to get clicks, et cetera, et cetera.

01:33:44.000 But now she's a millionaire. 1.00

01:33:45.000 What if everybody in this story is deplorable and just sucks.

01:33:48.000 What about, you know, if everybody, I don't need to feel bad about anybody here.

01:33:52.000 I mean, the little kid sucks for reaching to the bag.

01:33:54.000 The way the kid's parent or guardian reacted sucks.

01:33:57.000 And we have no idea where the first parent is, by the way, the parent of this, the five-year-old that's going in the bag, because the person who's filming is not their parent.

01:34:05.000 Oh, okay.

01:34:06.000 So we have no idea where that parent is.

01:34:08.000 So that's the very first thing, by the way.

01:34:10.000 And again, I'll be consistent, right?

01:34:13.000 If I said that I would go down on my kid and bring him to, you know, come down on my kid and go to the, you know, take him to the police station if he did something that, like Roger Jackson did, then in the same token as this, if my kid is going through somebody else's.s bag at the playground.

01:34:28.000 Say, hey, what are you doing?

01:34:29.000 Give my mom the right to spank me and beat my ass, and also my neighbors. 1.00

01:34:36.000 And that was just last week.

01:34:38.000 They took the opportunity.

01:34:39.000 I kind of enjoyed it.

01:34:41.000 No, but no, really, when I was a kid, I could hold on to the desk and bend over and I'd be like, Oh, damn.

01:34:45.000 Well, bam.

01:34:46.000 I said, West Virginia Knights.

01:34:48.000 And my mom was like, Yeah, I know, but my mom was like, You deserve that.

01:34:50.000 My mom would give me preemptive ass beatings before I would walk into a store. 1.00

01:34:55.000 She'd hit me and say, You better not do this or that.

01:34:57.000 I mean, I was raised that way.

01:34:58.000 I was raised with ass kickings all the time.

01:35:01.000 Probably that's why I'm the way I am now.

01:35:03.000 But I'm just saying, like, but I mean, I understand it.

01:35:05.000 Like, I mean, kids could be, uh, bad.

01:35:08.000 Uh, you know, animals, dude.

01:35:10.000 They could be just, you know, for me growing up, I was always in trouble.

01:35:14.000 So I expected that.

01:35:16.000 But I mean, my neighbors, my mom gave the neighbors permission.

01:35:20.000 Like, look, if he jumps on your roof and does that again, beat his ass.

01:35:24.000 Right.

01:35:24.000 And so did she did she went overboard in in throwing the M word at a five year old?

01:35:30.000 Yeah, you could say that she did.

01:35:31.000 Dude, my mom called me some names.

01:35:32.000 I don't want to repeat them.

01:35:33.000 But at the same time, where's where's the first parent, you know, of that child?

01:35:38.000 If you get a five year old at a playground, you're not paying attention to them.

01:35:41.000 That's a very young age.

01:35:43.000 That is not the age of a kid that should just be, you know, let out on the show.

01:35:47.000 She's probably on her phone.

01:35:48.000 She's probably looking for the next TikTok video, thinking, oh, what's next?

01:35:53.000 And I see that too, by the way.

01:35:54.000 I see that, you know, and that's not a racial thing.

01:35:56.000 That's just, you know, parents are on their phones way too much.

01:36:00.000 And I try very cognizantly to get myself away from the phone.

01:36:04.000 I don't know, man.

01:36:05.000 Times have changed so much.

01:36:07.000 But the point is, the point is, should you face charges for that?

01:36:10.000 I don't think so.

01:36:12.000 Should that be something that really probably should have stayed between, it should have stayed on the playground.

01:36:16.000 That's all I'm saying.

01:36:18.000 I mean, me growing up, my mom used to beat the crap out of my friends, and my friends' mothers used to beat the crap out of me, everyone.

01:36:23.000 I mean, it was just the way it was., I don't think I definitely not be charged for that, one hundred percent, no.

01:36:29.000 Yeah, I mean, I just I don't think it's justified.

01:36:32.000 And that's why, by the way, when it comes to flag burning stuff, I'm going to say, look, we already have de facto speech codes in this country.

01:36:38.000 Right.

01:36:39.000 And that's essentially what this is.

01:36:41.000 It's a de facto speech code that already exists.

01:36:44.000 It's a standard and a precedent that has already been set.

01:36:47.000 You can argue over when it was set, but it's been set and it's currently set.

01:36:51.000 We do not live in a free speech society.

01:36:53.000 We don't.

01:36:54.000 Yeah, nobody is principled in their belief in free speech.

01:36:57.000 I don't think so.

01:36:58.000 People like to LARP and posture as if they are, but when push comes to shove on an issue that they care about, it kind of goes out the window.

01:37:04.000 My principle is reward patriots, punish non-patriots.

01:37:07.000 Exactly.

01:37:08.000 That's my principle.

01:37:08.000 It's like, you know, you can't burn the flag full stop.

01:37:12.000 I don't have to justify this.

01:37:13.000 Should you be able to talk trash about the flag?

01:37:15.000 The founders wouldn't have tolerated this.

01:37:16.000 You have the right to do that.

01:37:17.000 Not anymore.

01:37:18.000 Not as of yesterday.

01:37:19.000 No, no kidding.

01:37:20.000 Guys, I'm sitting here with like a third of my arm as the 13 colonies flag, and I'm still saying, hey, it's okay.

01:37:29.000 It's not going to hurt the United States.

01:37:31.000 I know the argument that was being made, oh, this is about demoralization.

01:37:34.000 It absolutely hurts the United States.

01:37:35.000 I don't think that it hurts.

01:37:36.000 It's a crime against nation.

01:37:37.000 I disagree.

01:37:38.000 I don't think that it actually hurts.

01:37:40.000 You've yanked those people off the streets.

01:37:41.000 There's no way to raise kids to value their country if you also teach them it's okay to burn the flag.

01:37:48.000 You tell your kids that the people that are actually burning the flag are the scum of the earth.

01:37:53.000 And again, I'm the guy that's got the only guy here that's had the flag tattooed on his body.

01:37:53.000 Right.

01:37:58.000 Just because it is illegal doesn't mean it's okay.

01:38:02.000 I feel like we also need to, I detest anybody.

01:38:02.000 Yeah.

01:38:04.000 You don't have to beat me with a right to beat me with it.

01:38:06.000 But if someone wants to burn the flag, I'm just going to look at them and be like, ah, what a moron.

01:38:10.000 Even worse than that, I'm going to detest you and loathe you.

01:38:12.000 And I think you should be.

01:38:13.000 Or you can just go to jail.

01:38:13.000 Yeah.

01:38:14.000 Because it's an uncontrolled burn because it's a crime.

01:38:16.000 So what do they say?

01:38:18.000 So you could burn a flag in your own home if it's privately, but if you're inciting?

01:38:22.000 Okay, so the current EO does not cover that.

01:38:26.000 So if you went on Amazon, I said this last night, if you went on Amazon and you purchased a flag and you brought it home, and I think somebody, there was some two-way guy thought he'd be edgy, and he had one of those handheld flags.

01:38:42.000 Gun go pop.

01:38:43.000 Yeah, and he burned it today.

01:38:44.000 look at me.

01:38:45.000 Well, the EO doesn't cover that.

01:38:46.000 that the EO says when you're at a riot or in a public setting and you are going to incite imminent illegal action or violence that is the time when the DOJ is directed to go after you.

01:38:59.000 See, I think this is all man i don't know how much time we have left but i just want to say like i think this is going in a direction where i think trump is preparing for something big man and i think i think it's like i'm serious there's national guards on the streets i think it's getting well it's not it's not protected speech it's it's never i mean what happened in june it's all over them those kids are burning in the moors there is no and just to get into it again i mean i saw this last night i don't want to repeat myself but this is this is a marxist uh argument it is absolutely a marxist twisting of the first amendment

01:39:30.000 to claim that expression is speech uh people the pro-life movement fought against roe v wade for years and years and years and finally got it overturnurned because they were able to prove that it wasn't in the Constitution.

01:39:42.000 Protection of flag burning is nowhere near in the Constitution.

01:39:45.000 Believe it or not, it was decided a decade after Roe v.

01:39:48.000 Wade.

01:39:49.000 So Roe v. 0.92

01:39:49.000 Wade was around for much longer than flag burning was protected. 0.92

01:39:54.000 And yet people want to sit here and act like the founding fathers would have supported that.

01:39:58.000 It's just not true.

01:39:59.000 It's a completely Marxist argument that came up at the, kind of, tail end of the counterculture, you know, sort of sixties radical revolution.

01:40:08.000 They finally get this decision out of the Supreme Court in 1989.

01:40:12.000 And it's just, it's ridiculous.

01:40:14.000 It's antithetic to our history.

01:40:17.000 It's Marxist.

01:40:19.000 The founders went further with John Adams with the Sedition Act in 1789.

01:40:22.000 100%.

01:40:23.000 It's like the flag burning would have been completely, that would have got you ostracized and probably mobbed.

01:40:28.000 They even went further with just basic criticism.

01:40:30.000 I'm not saying that's what, that's neither here nor there, but to act like the founders would have been this, like, oh, yeah, that's totally fine, burn it.

01:40:36.000 This is part of our rights.

01:40:37.000 It's like, that's not how I don't agree with it at all.

01:40:37.000 I'm fine.

01:40:42.000 I don't think you should burn a flag, absolutely not, but you should have the right to do it.

01:40:45.000 If you're an idiot, you have the right to be an idiot.

01:40:47.000 But that's Marxism.

01:40:48.000 Yeah.

01:40:49.000 That's a, that's a Marxist argument that in the 1960s.

01:40:56.000 People deploy the same argument with pornography.

01:40:58.000 Right.

01:40:59.000 That's how they defend the use of pornography. 0.69

01:41:00.000 You're saying, well, I disagree with it, but you have the right to do it.

01:41:03.000 I'm like, but this is clearly destructive to.

01:41:07.000 How many years did states have obscenity laws?

01:41:10.000 Obscenity laws, blasphemy laws. 1.00

01:41:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:41:14.000 You're making a good point.

01:41:15.000 Like if your girlfriend or your wife sends naked pictures of herself, your wife for context, right?

01:41:21.000 So say your wife sends you naked pictures, that's pornography. 1.00

01:41:24.000 Right.

01:41:25.000 That's different than publishing.

01:41:26.000 Why?

01:41:27.000 Because this is distribution to the public, whether it's an not what we're suesis about.

01:41:34.000 We're arguing, right?

01:41:35.000 But what he's arguing, and what I'm trying to argue is that this is our actual history, right?

01:41:41.000 So for people who want to claim that, oh, the founder, like, it's a foundational belief of America that you have to, you know, you have to allow for flag burning and pornography and, you know, and all this stuff.

01:41:52.000 No, it's just not true.

01:41:54.000 It's just, it is an ahistorical Marxist argument.

01:41:54.000 It's never been true.

01:41:57.000 And it's well, it's, so I disagree that it's a Marxist argument, but the you're promoting Marxism, Phil.

01:42:02.000 Yeah, like I said, I disagree that it's a Marxist argument.

01:42:04.000 But talk to the Marxist again.

01:42:06.000 With the American flag on his arm.

01:42:08.000 How are we getting it?

01:42:09.000 You Marxist?

01:42:10.000 How are we getting it?

01:42:11.000 deeply engaged in the philosophical debate here.

01:42:13.000 I'm still going to defend the right of people to do what they want.

01:42:16.000 If they want to burn a flag, you have the right to do that.

01:42:18.000 If I agree with you, I don't agree with it.

01:42:19.000 I don't agree with it.

01:42:21.000 I'd be so happy with you right now.

01:42:22.000 The President would love you.

01:42:24.000 I think the President is much more pragmatic in what he's doing for political reasons.

01:42:30.000 So I think the President is extremely effective at baiting Democrats and stupid people in the media into taking his bait.

01:42:36.000 So what do I mean by that?

01:42:37.000 When he says he's sending the National Guard to DC to fight crime, he's making Democrats defend crime.

01:42:43.000 So now when he's saying he's going to make burning the flags illegal, he's going to make Democrats defend burning flags and he's putting them in this rhetorical argument where they're being forced to defend the worst things because it's what he's doing.

01:42:55.000 So as far as being like a pragmatic political operator, I think Trump's very effective in what he's trying to set up democrats up to do.

01:43:01.000 Setting traps.

01:43:02.000 That's what I think he's doing here.

01:43:03.000 I think he's already doing that.

01:43:04.000 Don't you think he cares about the philosophy or is it right or wrong?

01:43:07.000 He's thinking, Oh, burning flags, you know, is bad enough.

01:43:09.000 I'm going to make the democrats defend burning flags.

01:43:11.000 Well, not only will he make them defend the crime.

01:43:14.000 He's going to make them do that.

01:43:15.000 Well, Trump says, I can't do this.

01:43:16.000 I'm going to do it.

01:43:17.000 And now they're going to burn flags.

01:43:18.000 Well, be principled in your freedom of speech and burn a flag. 0.72

01:43:20.000 See how much the public likes that.

01:43:22.000 But I think that's what the president is baiting people into doing.

01:43:25.000 He is a very savvy.

01:43:27.000 political operator in how he's behaving here.

01:43:29.000 That's what I think people should be 3D chess thinking about these Trump moves, because these moves didn't come out of nowhere, right?

01:43:34.000 He's trying to set up a narrative.

01:43:35.000 But flag burning has been controversial for like thirty years.

01:43:37.000 This isn't like a recent Trump giving up.

01:43:39.000 He's bringing it back into the news.

01:43:41.000 Laughter is that Hillary Clinton actually supported this in 2005.

01:43:44.000 So figure.

01:43:45.000 When she was a senator, this was something that was so, you know, it was so like, quote, unquote, popular, you know, in, you know, rally around the flag, 2011 environment that even Hillary was like, yeah, we should get on board with this.

01:43:57.000 So I'm Hillary at W, I guess.

01:43:59.000 So, you know, we all saw what happened in June, right?

01:44:01.000 They're waving the Mexican flag, they're burning American flags, you know, the riots, the protests that happened in June.

01:44:06.000 Yeah, we talked about this a ton last night.

01:44:07.000 Yeah.

01:44:08.000 So obviously, I feel with him putting the troops on the streets in D.C., getting ready now, what, 19 states, I think he's getting ready for something much bigger.

01:44:18.000 And this is all.

01:44:20.000 Everything, all the moves he's making is alluding to this to me.

01:44:24.000 From what I can see from a 60,000 foot view is, I think something bigger is coming around the corner and he's preparing for it with protests and civil unrest.

01:44:32.000 And I think that could be maybe what people start getting arrested, dog.

01:44:36.000 I'm just saying, because if they'll do it for George Floyd, what you're saying is, if I hear this right, because this EO, and a lot pointed out that it's very.

01:44:47.000 specifically talking about these instances at, you know, in public and Yes, he's getting ahead of the ball.

01:44:53.000 So he's, so he's thinking, right.

01:44:55.000 Something's going to happen.

01:44:56.000 He's thinking like a general.

01:44:57.000 He sees what's coming.

01:44:58.000 He's like, okay, because if they'll write and protest when George Floyd got arrested, right?

01:45:02.000 Your liberal next door was writing and protesting, everyone was going to go crazy.

01:45:06.000 So if they'll do that with George Floyd, what are they going to do?

01:45:08.000 Let's say, I don't know, Hillary Obama gets arrested. 0.51

01:45:11.000 Let's say that comes.

01:45:12.000 Wow.

01:45:13.000 He's getting ahead of the ball here with this.

01:45:15.000 So he's setting his chess pieces in.

01:45:17.000 He's setting his chess pieces in order here to make those moves.

01:45:20.000 He's moving in the troops.

01:45:22.000 He's setting the perimeters.

01:45:23.000 Do you guys get what I'm saying here?

01:45:24.000 Yeah.

01:45:25.000 Stop getting my hopes up.

01:45:26.000 I'm not gonna do this.

01:45:27.000 I can see dude's gonna be like, I've been watching Phil's gonna be sitting there.

01:45:31.000 I've been watching Why are you arresting the flag burners? 0.79

01:45:34.000 Oh, Bob, he's getting my tattoo.

01:45:36.000 I bet your mind, Jack.

01:45:39.000 He's gonna be crying out of your mind.

01:45:41.000 He's gonna be singing.

01:45:42.000 I know you all are thinking about Puddles of a man.

01:45:44.000 I didn't know that you were so into strong men defending the strong man arguments.

01:45:50.000 I didn't really want to go to that.

01:45:51.000 I've seen some of that all the time.

01:45:52.000 Defending unreal.

01:45:55.000 I will always.

01:45:55.000 I mean, we all see strong man arguments.

01:45:58.000 I've never said that I'm like, oh, the poor guy, blah, blah, blah.

01:46:02.000 I'm just saying that it shouldn't, people shouldn't go to jail for it.

01:46:05.000 So making it out like I'm some kind of bleeding heart liberal is ridiculous.

01:46:08.000 But dude, what are they going to do?

01:46:10.000 You're kind of simping for flag burners.

01:46:11.000 Not simping for flag burners at all.

01:46:13.000 I haven't said, oh, the poor flag burners or anything.

01:46:15.000 I'm saying that the principle of free expression and free speech includes flag burning. 1.00

01:46:22.000 You don't agree with this.

01:46:23.000 And so you sit there and raw man me is just okay, okay.

01:46:27.000 Where is free expression in the constitution?

01:46:28.000 Please, I said free expression and free speech.

01:46:31.000 Okay, great difference.

01:46:32.000 So pull up free expression in the constitution.

01:46:34.000 So I know that I'm aware that it's not in the constitution.

01:46:37.000 So just pull it up for me.

01:46:38.000 I just told you, I'm aware that free expression is not in the constitution, but freedom of association isn't in it either.

01:46:46.000 But people on the right always say, oh, we should have freedom of assembly, is there?

01:46:49.000 Freedom of association, which is different than freedom.

01:46:52.000 If you're going to say that freedom of assembly is the same thing as freedom of association, then freedom of expression is the same thing as freedom of speech.

01:46:59.000 So physical act is not speech.

01:47:00.000 I'm saying that if you're going to make the argument that they're the same, then...

01:47:07.000 I'm not making the argument that abortion is privacy.

01:47:10.000 No, I'm just saying these are things that Marxists did to our constitution to twist the meaning of words to get people to suddenly say, oh, I'm defendinging freedom by defending all these things that degrade, demoralize and destroy my country.

01:47:23.000 So like I said, the freedom of speech, I think that if you burn the flag, that's expressing yourself.

01:47:29.000 It's not in the constitution.

01:47:30.000 It's speech is in the constitution.

01:47:32.000 Show me where it is in the constitution.

01:47:33.000 It's speech.

01:47:34.000 The point is it's speech.

01:47:36.000 You keep saying, show me where it's in the constitution.

01:47:38.000 I told you, I straight out.

01:47:40.000 I don't have to agree with you, but I'm aware that I'm sorry, I'm not trying to cut you off, but you're twisting the word to the constitution, not twisting it to achieve a goal that the communists want.

01:47:50.000 It's pornography.

01:47:51.000 Can I just I think it's fine.

01:47:52.000 I don't think that it's, I don't, I think that, I think that it's, I think that, I think that personally, I think there are sometimes speech.

01:47:58.000 Hashtag Western United Nights.

01:48:01.000 I think that speech does cover freedom of expression because you're expressing yourself.

01:48:08.000 Expression is not speech.

01:48:09.000 I think what he's doing here is brilliant in a way.

01:48:11.000 And I agree with you, by the way.

01:48:13.000 I agree with you.

01:48:15.000 I think he's putting his chess pieces in position for what do the liberals love to do when they're protesting and chanting and rioting?

01:48:21.000 They burn flags.

01:48:22.000 Dude, he's getting ready.

01:48:24.000 He's getting ahead of the ball.

01:48:26.000 I'm telling you, he's like a war general.

01:48:28.000 He sees what's coming.

01:48:29.000 Something big is going to come.

01:48:30.000 Do you agree with me?

01:48:31.000 I think he's just baiting libs.

01:48:33.000 He's baiting libs.

01:48:35.000 What's going to happen is they're going to go crazy.

01:48:37.000 I'm telling you real quick.

01:48:38.000 I mean, I agree that I think that's what he's doing.

01:48:41.000 And that he did the same thing on crime.

01:48:43.000 He was baiting libs to say, Oh no, a few muggings are okay, like a few shootings. 0.97

01:48:47.000 I think he believes it too.

01:48:48.000 I mean, to be fair, like I think he's against Snyderberg.

01:48:51.000 As a savvy political move.

01:48:53.000 I think this other stuff is immaterial to him.

01:48:55.000 I think he's just very savvy political.

01:48:57.000 I think he's a patriot and he loves America and he hates to see that happen.

01:49:01.000 I don't think we're seldom going to see this invoked.

01:49:05.000 Some in the chat is asking, can we burn Phil's arm as free speech?

01:49:09.000 But I see with what Trump is doing with the troops and everything he's doing, he is setting his pieces up for strategy., the whole flag burning thing, it's all strategy.

01:49:19.000 I think what's coming, he's preparing for something he knows they're going to be set off.

01:49:23.000 It's so funny, by the way, there's a bunch, there's it's funny because there's a bunch of people in the chat who are like, we're like, Posobik is making things is rogue.

01:49:30.000 And I'm like, guys, it's not in the Constitution.

01:49:32.000 It's just not there.

01:49:33.000 Like, you can claim it as all you want, but it's just not there.

01:49:37.000 The same way that abortion is not in the Constitution.

01:49:40.000 It's just not there.

01:49:41.000 You want to print this to super chats?

01:49:42.000 I feel like we do have to.

01:49:43.000 Yeah, we do have to.

01:49:44.000 I feel bad for those who have turned in.

01:49:46.000 Surge has been texting me for a while.

01:49:48.000 And so I look at the chats and I do want to get that.

01:49:51.000 And I feel like we never run through the super chats enough.

01:49:53.000 We don't want to.

01:49:55.000 I'm a three times Trump voter and long time Tim Cast fan.

01:49:58.000 A lot of the staff and the right in general now flirt with this authoritarianism.

01:50:02.000 If you say F the rules, F the principles, how are you better than Beto?

01:50:05.000 I'm the only one here who's actually reading the constitution and defending it.

01:50:09.000 The thing is, the constitution says a lot of things that don't exist in reality right now.

01:50:12.000 Can you tell me what the second amendment is right now?

01:50:14.000 I cannot have, you know, equal rights to a firearm.

01:50:18.000 I cannot carry a firearm in most of the places that I live actively.

01:50:21.000 But, but, but, oh, it's the second amendment.

01:50:23.000 Oh, it's in the constitution.

01:50:25.000 Okay, the constitution doesn't apply to most of the things in our practical real life right now where there are more laws added after the fact that.

01:50:32.000 that doesn't mean you shouldn't defend it.

01:50:34.000 You're not wrong, but as for pragmatic purposes, practical purposes go.

01:50:39.000 So are you saying that the act of burning the flag is not freedom of speech?

01:50:43.000 It's the act of putting it on fire.

01:50:44.000 Sorry, we're going to.

01:50:45.000 That's what you're saying.

01:50:46.000 Oh, no, I'm trying to really absorb this.

01:50:48.000 That's what you're saying, right?

01:50:49.000 That the act of lighting a flag on fire is not freedom, that's that not, that is not, that's not freedom of speech.

01:50:54.000 It's not.

01:50:56.000 He's arguing that it's not speech.

01:50:57.000 It's not speech in particular.

01:50:58.000 Because it's not speech.

01:50:59.000 Because it's not something like a category.

01:51:01.000 It's not a category or speech is an act.

01:51:04.000 So if I, if you and I are speaking, it's like vandalism.

01:51:06.000 Freedom of speech.

01:51:07.000 Vandalism, that's what I think it's incitement is what people are.

01:51:10.000 People were arguing in the incitement is the EO.

01:51:12.000 I'm not going to go on the EO.

01:51:17.000 I'm just trying to understand this better, but this is just if it's done in public settings in a protest, then that's against the law.

01:51:22.000 But if someone has a flag in their own home and they want to burn their flag that they bought, they can do that.

01:51:28.000 That's where I'm that's not I don't understand the Not under the current Under the current EO you could.

01:51:33.000 So you could burn American flag in your home in your home, but if you're out at a protest you start burning the flag, that's against the law.

01:51:38.000 That's the current executive order, yes.

01:51:40.000 Because he says that it's incitement.

01:51:42.000 I do have to get to the supertats because I'm being very remiss.

01:51:45.000 I do like this conversation though.

01:51:46.000 Where, wait, okay, sorry, I'm looking at the wrong spot.

01:51:49.000 Here we go.

01:51:50.000 This is from Methos 671.

01:51:52.000 This is Rumble.

01:51:52.000 This is Rumble rant.

01:51:54.000 If Trump accepts 600,000 Chinese students, he should be impeached and removed under the 25th. 0.94

01:51:59.000 China is an enemy of the United States and is plotting our downfall every day. 1.00

01:52:03.000 And I voted for him.

01:52:04.000 Wow.

01:52:04.000 So again, I mean, that's what we titled this episode that there's a MAGA uproar.

01:52:09.000 And there you go.

01:52:11.000 Where are we going?

01:52:13.000 A lot is nuts.

01:52:14.000 This is from Sporkwitch.

01:52:16.000 What is a Sporkwitch? 1.00

01:52:18.000 That's not.

01:52:18.000 Now that is.

01:52:20.000 That is a shit.

01:52:20.000 Did they give a take that they were upset about?

01:52:22.000 So college doesn't teach American values.

01:52:24.000 It indoctrinates students in Marxism, China only allows party members in good standing to go zero benefit all cost and harm.

01:52:31.000 That's just not true on both, on both accounts.

01:52:34.000 And Post, so maybe you could talk more to the China part, but i just don't think that's the case but let's go i mean i'd say it's probably case by case basis but if you're if you are a party member you're going to have a more chance or from a family that has a party member there's a better chance you're going to make it um Let's see.

01:52:51.000 The only reason, the only rational reason for the students is to use them as hostages for the CCP.

01:52:56.000 This is from SPQR 2008.

01:52:59.000 So returning, returning Rome, the Roman Empire in the 2008, using them as hostages for the CCP not taking Taiwan or the South China Sea.

01:53:07.000 Matt Rides, a friend, married a Chinese girl.

01:53:10.000 Her bro is in the army.

01:53:13.000 By the way, that's interesting because most, uh, you know, most, most people in China are, you know, one child, but that's changing.

01:53:19.000 Good point.

01:53:20.000 Um, so I don't know.

01:53:22.000 Maybe this is fake news.

01:53:23.000 It's, they've, they've been relaxing it in recent years.

01:53:27.000 So, you know, if you're younger, it's, it's possible, like, like Gen Z. So millennials don't have siblings in China, but Gen Z kind of can.

01:53:36.000 Um, but in some cases, again, if you're a CCP elite, you can, or if you have a special dispensation, you can, you can get, uh, get around the kids.

01:53:43.000 And so, um, uh, he was told that.

01:53:47.000 because his sister is married to a foreigner, he is not eligible for promotion in the army.

01:53:52.000 CCP has zero issue with holding family accountable.

01:53:55.000 This is this family reprisal collective punishment.

01:53:57.000 This was to my point earlier that Chinese nationalists are also against student visas for Chinese people coming over here.

01:54:04.000 That's more of a reason to not do it.

01:54:06.000 MFT 2 says, how long will Xi still be in charge of China?

01:54:11.000 Rumor is he is on the outs with his party.

01:54:13.000 Yeah, I see that headline.

01:54:15.000 Gosh, like it's like it's like routine every six months.

01:54:18.000 He's about to go.

01:54:20.000 The CCP is about to fall.

01:54:21.000 They're about to fall.

01:54:22.000 They're going to fall tomorrow.

01:54:23.000 Yeah.

01:54:25.000 He just keeps purging them.

01:54:26.000 Anybody who questions their loyalty, even the people who are loyal to CCP, Xi Jinping and the CCP, he just keeps doing these so-called corruption purges.

01:54:36.000 And of business leaders too, anybody gets too powerful.

01:54:39.000 They were putting it on TV.

01:54:40.000 So it was the number one show in China at one point where the struggle sessions, because you don't have to hold them in these mass public settings and soccer stadiums anymore, like the Cultural Revolution, they were putting them on TV and they made like a reality show about it.

01:54:54.000 So, and you would actually have to get the official who's being purge, the purgee, I suppose, is now on camera speaking to the camera reciting their crimes against the nation and you get to see all of the things they did and then that person gets purged and this was like number one highest rated show in China.

01:55:15.000 You know, to the point of if she were to be, you know, die or taken out of power or whatever, that doesn't mean that the government's going to change.

01:55:19.000 It just means that she's not the guy in charge.

01:55:20.000 She just gets replaced. 0.99

01:55:21.000 out of power or whatever.

01:55:21.000 That doesn't mean that the government's going to change.

01:55:24.000 It just means that she's not the guy in charge.

01:55:26.000 He just gets replaced.

01:55:27.000 Yeah.

01:55:27.000 It would just be another person.

01:55:29.000 Here's an interesting...

01:55:30.000 Xi gets replaced with Li.

01:55:31.000 But I think Xi Jinping will be there for quite some time.

01:55:35.000 I really do.

01:55:35.000 I think he's going to So you do, you stand down for one term, you know, go into a lesser role and then come back as the overall leader.

01:55:54.000 It wouldn't surprise me if there was something like that that happened.

01:55:56.000 Really interesting comment from Corbin twenty six, I'm a second generation immigrant.

01:56:00.000 I speak English, French, Spanish and my parents' languages.

01:56:05.000 We believe in MAGA, yet are still not seen as American enough.

01:56:09.000 Do we have to abandon our original culture to belong?

01:56:14.000 And I would say, look, I think personally that and I'll open it up, but just from my personal answer.

01:56:19.000 would be that assimilation is a multi generational process.

01:56:22.000 It just is.

01:56:23.000 I don't think it makes you any less American if you are a first generation immigrant or a second generation immigrant.

01:56:29.000 I don't think you should listen to people who say otherwise.

01:56:31.000 You're just as much of an American and you have equal rights compared to those people.

01:56:36.000 So as far as I'm concerned, there's a difference between having the rights of an American citizen and being an American.

01:56:43.000 What are the qualifications and what allows you to be an American?

01:56:47.000 I'm talking about this multi generational process of listening.

01:56:49.000 I don't think you need to be here for multiple generations to be an equal American.

01:56:52.000 One person can't be here for multiple generations.

01:56:54.000 What?

01:56:54.000 One person can't be here for multiple gener multiple generations, I don't think that would make it a person more.

01:57:00.000 But there's one person more.

01:57:01.000 What are they saying?

01:57:01.000 They don't want to be like they're not.

01:57:03.000 What about being proud of your heritage?

01:57:05.000 I mean, my family's from Mexico.

01:57:06.000 I don't know.

01:57:07.000 I mean, I'm proud of my Mexican heritage.

01:57:08.000 What is he?

01:57:09.000 What exactly are they saying?

01:57:10.000 Well, it's they don't feel American.

01:57:13.000 They don't make a distinction between what is an American versus what is an American citizen.

01:57:17.000 And I think they were asking, you know, when do I become American?

01:57:20.000 If you live here legally, man, you're an American.

01:57:22.000 That's it.

01:57:23.000 Right.

01:57:23.000 But there's a difference between being someone who, you know, is just a legal immigrant versus someone who's been here for hundreds of years.

01:57:29.000 Yeah, like, no, I'm more American than he is.

01:57:31.000 You just said, you just said yourself that I can't be here for hundreds of years.

01:57:34.000 Be honest.

01:57:34.000 Yeah, you can't be.

01:57:35.000 Sorry, I said wrong.

01:57:37.000 A family who's been here here for hundreds of years.

01:57:39.000 So I'm trying to understand what's the difference between how American someone is and the citizenship.

01:57:43.000 What's I think is one is one is a legal piece of paper and one is a proud jewel.

01:57:49.000 I'm trying to understand what is what makes someone American beyond citizenship.

01:57:53.000 Shared culture.

01:57:54.000 Shared culture, shared heritage, shared.

01:57:56.000 That's what makes America so rich and great is that everyone has a different culture.

01:57:59.000 Everyone brings it all to the table.

01:58:01.000 Everyone here.

01:58:02.000 But there is a core American culture, for sure.

01:58:04.000 And that's what they mentioned.

01:58:05.000 We share hot dogs and baseball.

01:58:08.000 I mean, I know it's our American thing.

01:58:11.000 Yeah, I know.

01:58:12.000 But I'm just saying like, but everyone kind of brings something to the table from Italy, from Mexxico, we're all here together, you know, making America so rich and beautiful.

01:58:12.000 And I love them.

01:58:20.000 The point that's kind of being talked about or that they're kind of dancing around is there are people that think that America is a white Protestant country.

01:58:29.000 And if you're not a white Protestant, you're kind of not a real American.

01:58:32.000 And whether or not people, whether or not people, you know, and the problem with this.

01:58:37.000 Tell that to the Indians. 1.00

01:58:38.000 I mean, I think America came a lot of American America before the Europeans came.

01:58:43.000 But I'm not making an argument for or against that, but the point that the person's getting at, and that's kind of what the discussion online is now.

01:58:53.000 The people that say talk about Heritage America.

01:58:55.000 Americans or real Americans, what they're talking about is people that are white Anglo Saxon Protestants, right?

01:59:00.000 That is baby Catholic. 0.62

01:59:02.000 That is part of America.

01:59:03.000 That's a country.

01:59:04.000 Yeah, right.

01:59:05.000 And so the people that are not white Anglo Saxon Protestants, they're suspected somehow.

01:59:10.000 And that's honestly the way that it goes.

01:59:12.000 I wouldn't necessarily say suspect.

01:59:13.000 I would just say that you're from a country or a culture that is separate from the original Americans. 1.00

01:59:20.000 But I don't think the thing that happens is based on that.

01:59:22.000 And your Americanness, I think, depends on your belief in American values, which aren't inherently based to any original founding stock of the country.

01:59:31.000 So you divide the world between.

01:59:33.000 between Americans and future Americans.

01:59:35.000 People will make an argument that it does.

01:59:36.000 People make an argument that this is that America is for a particular people and that other people cannot assimilate.

01:59:43.000 Yeah, and I would argue that it's unamerican and not found in the Constitution.

01:59:47.000 Well, people can assimilate, but they're assimilating to something.

01:59:49.000 Right, so what are they?

01:59:50.000 The American values, but the American values inherently are not.

01:59:53.000 I don't think America is just an idea though.

01:59:55.000 America is the American people are a people.

01:59:58.000 The American nation is a nation of people.

01:59:59.000 You have to understand that it takes different kinds of people to make America.

02:00:03.000 America has changed over time, but the idea that the American people are just this amorphous blob and that anyone can just automatically become American because you get a piece of paper.

02:00:13.000 It's ridiculous on its face.

02:00:14.000 I can't go to, I mentioned living in China.

02:00:17.000 I speak Chinese.

02:00:18.000 I can't just, I can't become Chinese.

02:00:20.000 Let me ask Nan Jadder. 0.52

02:00:21.000 If I'm a, if I'm a member of the founding stock, Mayflower, what have you, but I'm a hardline communist leftist, am I, and I've heard all these arguments all week.

02:00:30.000 Oh, I'm not.

02:00:31.000 So great.

02:00:32.000 So you could have a good answer for it, right?

02:00:33.000 So what do you think?

02:00:34.000 Like, am I any less American if I'm a diehard communist, hate America, hate American values, want the country and the government to be overthrown?

02:00:41.000 Am I more American than some, and as this super chatter who's a stupid American, but you'd still be an American.

02:00:46.000 I'm the person who's here as a second generation.

02:00:50.000 I think this guy said his parents were It's a matter of history.

02:00:53.000 It's not something that I can change.

02:00:55.000 In your eyes is the person Not in my eyes.

02:00:58.000 It's just a matter of history.

02:01:00.000 It's a matter of your interpretation of what it means to be an American.

02:01:03.000 We're describing a mechanism.

02:01:05.000 Yeah, it's a historical mechanism.

02:01:07.000 Those were the people who founded America.

02:01:08.000 Yes.

02:01:09.000 So now we were valuing people on how much someone is American or not.

02:01:13.000 Well, you're an ally.

02:01:14.000 It's not valuing.

02:01:15.000 I'm just thinking about valuing.

02:01:16.000 You're adding that word again, just like you added to the word valuing.

02:01:19.000 He's thinking about valuing.

02:01:20.000 I'm not valuing.

02:01:21.000 He was saying valuing.

02:01:22.000 You're saying valuing?

02:01:23.000 I was trying to get to the point that I feel like you're proposedly not trying to tangle with.

02:01:27.000 So again, this guy was saying he doesn't really feel American or feels less of American because he was a second generation immigrant.

02:01:33.000 I'm asking you now, you already said you're asked this all the time, so you should have a well thought out answer.

02:01:37.000 Somebody again, founding stock, came here on the Mayflower, but is currently in his day and age, a diehard communist wants to throw the government, is a revolutionary compared to the super chatter who said, you know, he's a second generation American.

02:01:51.000 Are these people of equal Americanness to you?

02:01:53.000 Is one more or less American to you?

02:01:56.000 One more or less, I mean, they're separate things.

02:01:58.000 So you're taking someone's mental status and trying to imbibe that to their family's history.

02:02:04.000 I'm talking about their family's history.

02:02:05.000 I'm not talking about whether they're a liberal or a conservative, any of these things.

02:02:08.000 Yeah.

02:02:08.000 Any of these things.

02:02:09.000 So you're saying that that guy would be more American, the diehard communist whose family came here and has been here since the Mayflower.

02:02:15.000 As it is, it's simply a matter of history.

02:02:16.000 Oh, okay.

02:02:17.000 So say, I don't like it.

02:02:18.000 I feel like you're giving me.

02:02:19.000 So you think that person is more American.

02:02:21.000 That person who comes from, we're very, we're like right on the end.

02:02:24.000 So we should, I think, because we all agree, we're carrying this over.

02:02:28.000 So the answer is yes, obviously.

02:02:30.000 That person is from the founding stock of America and a person who is an immigrant, if they're not from that culture, that culture is not. 0.73

02:02:37.000 Yeah.

02:02:37.000 I think the exact opposite.

02:02:38.000 And I think that person is actually would be a threat to America and Americans.

02:02:41.000 But I'm not saying they're not a threat.

02:02:43.000 But it's also just a matter of history.

02:02:45.000 And it's just, it's just an immutable fact.

02:02:48.000 Real immutable facts.

02:02:49.000 Oh, true.

02:02:50.000 We are a little bit over.

02:02:52.000 We did not shout out stuff.

02:02:54.000 Are we able to do that, Surge, if that's okay?

02:02:56.000 Because I want to make sure Nino gets a chance to shout out where he's from.

02:02:59.000 Because he was a great guest.

02:03:00.000 Oh, I appreciate that.

02:03:02.000 I like the ending.

02:03:03.000 I was like, I want to be a referee.

02:03:04.000 Well, we have another hour.

02:03:05.000 We have another hour.

02:03:06.000 So let's do that for you.

02:03:08.000 You can start swinging if you want.

02:03:11.000 He's wrong.

02:03:11.000 He's being right.

02:03:12.000 No, just tell people where I'm at.

02:03:15.000 Is that what you're saying?

02:03:16.000 Ninos corner. 0.89

02:03:17.000 Yeah, Ninos corner not.tv.

02:03:20.000 I left the fighting arena, the physical fight of boxing to following every.

02:03:24.000 Following everything on the deep state war that's Ninos corner.tv.

02:03:28.000 It's also Ninos corner on YouTube and Rumble Ninos corner X is Nino boxer and that's about it.

02:03:36.000 Thank you guys for tuning in, everybody.

02:03:37.000 I'm Elod Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Tim Kest.

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02:04:33.000 tuned for the super chat where I will be explaining what is an American.

02:04:36.000 Thank you.

02:04:37.000 Thank you.

02:05:07.000 Thank you.

02:09:37.000 Thank you.

02:09:56.000 Oh, I love you.

02:09:58.000 I'll call you a little bit.

02:09:59.000 You gotta sit down so they can.

02:10:00.000 It's all right.

02:10:01.000 Hey, Bill, you're on.

02:10:02.000 Hey, guys.

02:10:03.000 How you doing?

02:10:04.000 Oh, I gotta go.

02:10:07.000 Oh, the chat's all mad at me.

02:10:09.000 It's so funny.

02:10:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:10:11.000 They're always mad.

02:10:12.000 mad at everything all the time.

02:10:13.000 They're literally always mad.

02:10:16.000 There we go.

02:10:16.000 Literally.

02:10:17.000 Jack is right.

02:10:18.000 Jack is right.

02:10:19.000 Yeah, you see some people saying Jack's right.

02:10:21.000 Jack is right.

02:10:22.000 I mean, it's not even my position, though.

02:10:25.000 It's just true.

02:10:26.000 Like it's just true.

02:10:26.000 Yeah.

02:10:27.000 Like the sky's blue, water's wet.

02:10:30.000 The, the, I think it's a form of freedom of speech within the, wait, are we, are we, are we up or not?

02:10:35.000 We're rolling right now.

02:10:36.000 We're rolling.

02:10:36.000 Yeah.

02:10:37.000 Okay.

02:10:37.000 All right.

02:10:37.000 Yeah.

02:10:37.000 Well, I don't, you know, I'll wait.

02:10:39.000 I just put up post-millennial because I figured you might know something you want to see one talk about.

02:10:42.000 Back only does missionary, no comment.

02:10:45.000 Um, do we have to put these on or what are we doing?

02:10:49.000 But for the graphic, I don't, I don't believe that, you know, I don't, I don't, you know, you mentioned strong man arguments, Phil, and I didn't say that you have to be a white Protestant to be an American.

02:11:01.000 And I'm not making that argument either.

02:11:03.000 And, but I was kind of wondering what discussion I came in on.

02:11:05.000 I'm like, damn, I'm off the mic.

02:11:07.000 I don't think think that's the argument that most people are making.

02:11:11.000 I do agree that, like, Groypers and some people do make that argument, but I would, the argument that I'm making is just a historical, like, I'm making a historical description.

02:11:21.000 I'm describing that the founders of the country and the majority of the country at the time of the founding were white Anglo Saxon Protestants.

02:11:29.000 That's not true.

02:11:30.000 That's just true.

02:11:30.000 Yeah, I'm not And so, yeah, someone descended from that family, from one of those families is going to be obviously and just physically connected more towards those founders than someone who came later.

02:11:44.000 Well, what makes them more connected right the in not not not the family not the family but the individual DNA what may but but like Alad was saying if you're dealing with someone that is an avowed communist that has lineage going back all the way to the mayflower right the well the avowed communist in my opinion but I'm not making I'm not making any so what the issue here is is we're looking at two different

02:12:14.000 definitions of America right so there's and and there's it's it's American as a definitional nation versus America as a propositional nation.

02:12:25.000 And so the propositional nation argument is this sort of like values, belief-based argument that, well, if you just agree to this set of terms, now suddenly you're just immediately an American.

02:12:36.000 And I'm not saying that there isn't an American spirit, which I would definitely not argue at all.

02:12:40.000 But what I'm saying is that the American people are a... 0.72

02:12:46.000 a people with a definition and a people who have a history, a history that goes back 400 years, maybe 500 years.

02:12:53.000 Not necessarily the white pilgrim.

02:12:55.000 Not really.

02:12:56.000 That's not an American. 0.99

02:12:57.000 That's not...

02:12:59.000 Well, they're not American. 0.96

02:13:00.000 They're not American. 1.00

02:13:01.000 Well, hold on, but what if they...

02:13:03.000 Because the settlers created America.

02:13:06.000 Okay, but what if they...

02:13:07.000 They're Indians.

02:13:07.000 I would say they're Indians.

02:13:08.000 And then they converted, they fought for the wars.

02:13:10.000 Let's say my dad's brother, right?

02:13:14.000 My uncle.

02:13:15.000 He's as brown as can brown can be. 0.98

02:13:18.000 But he loves America.

02:13:21.000 He would have been there from the founding as well.

02:13:23.000 But he was before they even came.

02:13:25.000 He was here in America.

02:13:26.000 What did he call the place that we lived?

02:13:26.000 He was an Indian.

02:13:27.000 Not before it was created, yeah.

02:13:29.000 And also, did he...

02:13:31.000 But I'm just saying, I think it's all colors, shapes, and sizes.

02:13:33.000 Is he a member of a tribe?

02:13:35.000 Is he an American citizen?

02:13:37.000 Is he an American citizen?

02:13:37.000 He was Yaki, he was Cherokee, you know.

02:13:38.000 Yes.

02:13:39.000 Okay.

02:13:39.000 So, I mean...

02:13:40.000 So, that's what I'm saying.

02:13:41.000 All shapes and colors, creeds that are American.

02:13:45.000 I mean, I don't want to go...

02:13:46.000 I don't feel like we should be going too far.

02:13:48.000 So, my problem with...

02:13:51.000 And I'm half white.

02:13:52.000 I mean, I'm also white.

02:13:53.000 Well, like...

02:13:54.000 I'm as...

02:13:56.000 I think this is...

02:13:56.000 Let me answer this question.

02:13:57.000 Let me answer this question.

02:13:58.000 And so, you know, what is he?

02:13:58.000 Okay.

02:14:00.000 I would say he's...

02:14:01.000 You know...

02:14:02.000 Does he go by Native American?

02:14:03.000 No.

02:14:04.000 He would just say he's Mexicano.

02:14:06.000 He's Chicano, right? 0.98

02:14:07.000 He would say he's El Paso Chicano.

02:14:08.000 Okay.

02:14:09.000 Then that's...

02:14:09.000 Then there you go.

02:14:10.000 But that's the type of person he is.

02:14:12.000 And he fought for the war.

02:14:12.000 But he's American.

02:14:13.000 He fought for World War II.

02:14:15.000 He's certainly American citizen.

02:14:16.000 There's no question.

02:14:16.000 Right, right.

02:14:16.000 But I'm just saying...

02:14:17.000 Obviously, there's no question.

02:14:18.000 But what I'm saying is, there is a difference in the specific group of people I'm talking about, the wider groups that are out there, and people who are coming like...

02:14:30.000 So what about...

02:14:31.000 What about blacks? 0.74

02:14:31.000 Like an Ilhan Omar, or a Azorah Mandami, or a... 0.74

02:14:37.000 What's the guy?

02:14:38.000 I was thinking of brown people.

02:14:39.000 Omar Fatah, who, you know, came over...

02:14:43.000 No, hold on.

02:14:43.000 What about a surge?

02:14:44.000 And I agree with you on that.

02:14:46.000 A hundred percent.

02:14:46.000 He's a South American.

02:14:57.000 Or like, or like my own family, right?

02:14:59.000 People like, Oh, Pesobik, you're Polish, right?

02:15:01.000 I'm like, Yeah, I know.

02:15:02.000 Like, I talk about it all the time.

02:15:03.000 Like, literally.

02:15:04.000 And your parents, were you born here?

02:15:06.000 My parents were born here?

02:15:06.000 Yes.

02:15:08.000 Yes.

02:15:09.000 Okay, and your grandparents?

02:15:10.000 Yes.

02:15:11.000 Oh, so you've been in America.

02:15:14.000 So you've been in the States for some time, I guess.

02:15:15.000 That's why.

02:15:16.000 Our family has for a minute.

02:15:18.000 Yeah, yeah, okay.

02:15:18.000 Yeah.

02:15:19.000 So, you know, pre World War II, I guess you would say.

02:15:22.000 I know, I know, I forget which, there was the meme.

02:15:24.000 I forget what, what life Ellis Islanders.

02:15:26.000 Ellis Islanders.

02:15:27.000 At America's founding though, there were a lot of non-Americans involved.

02:15:32.000 Famously, I forget his name, Koskiusko.

02:15:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:15:35.000 Koskiusko.

02:15:36.000 Koskiusko and Pulaski.

02:15:37.000 He was.

02:15:37.000 Yeah.

02:15:38.000 Yeah, Polish revolutionary.

02:15:39.000 Yeah, but there weren't even though I can see his point.

02:15:43.000 I can see two people.

02:15:44.000 I understand his point too.

02:15:45.000 But you know what I'm getting at, right?

02:15:46.000 100%.

02:15:48.000 I feel like we're beating around the bush of what we're really saying.

02:15:50.000 Are we talking about white people?

02:15:52.000 I think that's kind of what it sounds like.

02:15:56.000 I understand what you're saying.

02:15:57.000 But like, try arguing that with a black guy that whose grandfather served, great grandfather served in the Civil War.

02:16:03.000 Black America.

02:16:04.000 Those black people do argue that. 0.54

02:16:05.000 They're like, we're African descendants of slavery. 0.94

02:16:07.000 African descendants of slavery. 1.00

02:16:09.000 This is a real touchy argument.

02:16:11.000 They're also distinctly American.

02:16:12.000 I was like, if they're African American.

02:16:13.000 Right, right, right.

02:16:15.000 They don't exist outside of the context of the United States.

02:16:17.000 Yeah.

02:16:17.000 Right, but the point, listen, the reason that I object to this is not because I have some kind of disagreement about who the first settlers were, because it's, I mean, like you said, it's just historical fact, right?

02:16:31.000 The settlers were wasps, right? 0.96

02:16:33.000 They were all wasps, and I'm the waspiest guy in here.

02:16:36.000 Like, no, no, no, no, no.

02:16:39.000 Pull ancestry DNA out, ignore the wasping out. 1.00

02:16:42.000 Oh yeah, yeah, like, just ignore.

02:16:43.000 Anyway, like I said, well, I'm the waspiest guy every time.

02:16:46.000 But the point that I'm making, I'm occasionally passing, but if like, people look, they're like, nah.

02:16:52.000 The point that I'm making, the point that I'm making is one.

02:16:54.000 It is, once, listen, once you start making these arguments, it inevitably starts breaking down into, you're not good enough, you're not enough, you're not enough.

02:17:03.000 It's the exact same, what?

02:17:06.000 Yeah, I mean, it always starts breaking down like that.

02:17:08.000 And it's, and the point that I, the reason why I'm against it is because that will tear the country apart.

02:17:14.000 That will tear the country apart.

02:17:15.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:17:16.000 The country is currently being torn apart, right, by mass immigration. 1.00

02:17:20.000 Yes.

02:17:21.000 And most of that mass immigration has taken place since 1965.

02:17:25.000 Sure.

02:17:26.000 And so the real place where I'm trying to get, and people keep saying, what is your intent?

02:17:29.000 So you're, you're, you know, kind of getting around, what is your intent with this medium?

02:17:32.000 Media Matters was saying, Posobic's intent with this is clearly to deport legal immigrants.

02:17:36.000 It's like, that's literally, I've never said that once.

02:17:39.000 I've never even said that Zoran Mandami should be deported.

02:17:42.000 People make some pretty interesting arguments.

02:17:44.000 I have said that about Illinois.

02:17:45.000 I would not mind a denaturalization.

02:17:47.000 I have said that she would denaturalize because she committed fraud, because she committed fraud in the naturalization process, not her own, but of her brother.

02:17:58.000 She committed fraud there.

02:18:00.000 And so, and potentially education fraud as well, so that she could, they could, you know, get the benefits of this.

02:18:08.000 But no, the issue is because she the way we talk about immigration is completely broken.

02:18:14.000 And the idea that the American people are not a definite people is just not true.

02:18:19.000 It's not historically true.

02:18:20.000 It's not factually true.

02:18:22.000 We can all see it with our own eyes when we're going.

02:18:25.000 And what we have now is a nation comprised of sort of the mass nation that is America.

02:18:31.000 But then you also have these mini ethnic enclaves that are growing up in areas like Dearborn.

02:18:37.000 And so we were talking about this in the context of the UK, but it's happening here now too.

02:18:42.000 And you mentioned Plano, right?

02:18:43.000 You were saying Plano is getting like that.

02:18:46.000 But that's always existed with even different flavors of white.

02:18:49.000 Never to this extent though.

02:18:50.000 Never to this extent.

02:18:51.000 No, they hated the Catholics, and I'm pretty sure they blamed them for a ton of shit.

02:18:56.000 They did, and then questioned our loyalty.

02:18:58.000 They couldn't run for office.

02:18:59.000 The original deal was like, oh, are they loyal to the Pope?

02:19:03.000 So no, they actually can't.

02:19:04.000 And so they do this.

02:19:04.000 And we're loyal to the Pope.

02:19:06.000 Where you're wrong though is that it's it is a it is again a category error, right?

02:19:10.000 It's a category error because you're talking about, and we mentioned this earlier, that you know, you're talking about cultures and civilizations of people that are so far removed from the direct American culture.

02:19:23.000 And people saying like, okay, can they can they assimilate?

02:19:27.000 Are Catholics from Latin America so far removed that they can't assimilate?

02:19:31.000 Well, that's something we were just talking about.

02:19:32.000 The liberation theology ones are.

02:19:34.000 You were talking about earlier.

02:19:35.000 Let me bring this up.

02:19:36.000 Wait, is that a do like, no?

02:19:38.000 do you believe that Catholics in Latin America can't assimilate here properly or?

02:19:42.000 Can they?

02:19:43.000 Again, I think assimilation is a multi generational process that takes time and should never be done in a massive way.

02:19:50.000 That's why I want ten.

02:19:51.000 That's why I want to end all immigration for ten years. 1.00

02:19:53.000 Like, my I have the hard core, the I probably have the hardest core.

02:19:58.000 America's absolutely false.

02:19:59.000 Yeah.

02:19:59.000 I have probably the hardest core immigration stance out of anybody around.

02:20:03.000 And I articulate it.

02:20:04.000 Let me tell you the arguments I have for the 300,000 extra Chinese we're about to get out. 1.00

02:20:08.000 Get them out! 0.99

02:20:08.000 Get all of them out. 0.99

02:20:09.000 Wait, hold on.

02:20:10.000 If we're going to deport him, he's going to double them.

02:20:12.000 Let me just tell you the arguments I have to hear.

02:20:14.000 I have to hear.

02:20:15.000 I think if we need that, I think the good is forcing this conversation.

02:20:17.000 Do you want to cancel?

02:20:18.000 Double him.

02:20:19.000 I know.

02:20:19.000 Yeah.

02:20:20.000 The reason I'm forcing the conversation and I have been online is because I think we have a lot of lazy thinking.

02:20:28.000 It's very romantic thinking, right?

02:20:30.000 It's very which, which all communism and marxism is rooted in romance.

02:20:33.000 I get your point.

02:20:34.000 That like we can have this utopia and everyone can have these great values and it's this universal egalitarianism where everyone can be, you know, living in a Jeffersonian republic and it's going to be wonderful.

02:20:45.000 I get your and I get your thinking.

02:20:46.000 And it just doesn't work.

02:20:47.000 If you, here's what I'll say, I'll leave it at this.

02:20:50.000 If you replace the American people with the people of Afghanistan overnight, you get Afghanistan. 0.99

02:20:56.000 You get Afghanistan. 0.99

02:20:57.000 And so, but by the same token, if you took the American people as surprised today and put them in, you know, the territory of Afghanistan, they would start building.

02:21:05.000 And to my point, but hold on, let me just say this one second.

02:21:07.000 To your point, the Iraq War proved it, right? 0.96

02:21:11.000 So the argument that was made about Iraq was we will be greeted as liberators, we'll go in there and they're going to become a Liberation democracy overnight.

02:21:19.000 That was never going to happen and Iraq literally proved that. 1.00

02:21:22.000 Liberia, here's the problem.

02:21:25.000 I see a rising.

02:21:27.000 No, I agree with me.

02:21:28.000 It depends on what you mean.

02:21:30.000 No, let me just...

02:21:31.000 All right.

02:21:32.000 So there's a problem that – So here's the problem that's arising.

02:21:36.000 And this argument that you're posing right now, I do agree with that.

02:21:40.000 The settlers that came here, white, Protestant, the whole thing.

02:21:43.000 I get that.

02:21:43.000 I understand it.

02:21:45.000 But what I'm hearing, and I'm on the border, right, and it's – No, but listen, they feel, but hold on, but they feel, right, and I agree with that.

02:22:09.000 But their argument is, we were here first.

02:22:11.000 You're not kicking us out, motherfucker.

02:22:13.000 We were here for, and they are fucking adamant about it, bro.

02:22:16.000 They are not, they're going to go down with the fight.

02:22:17.000 I'm going to tell you.

02:22:19.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:22:21.000 Who's we?

02:22:22.000 These are Mexican Americans.

02:22:24.000 They're also Indian, right?

02:22:25.000 They're indigenous to this land.

02:22:27.000 But what you're saying is...

02:22:31.000 I'm not saying I agree with it.

02:22:33.000 What I do know is that their ethnic identity almost trumps their American identity. 1.00

02:22:38.000 Well, they should be 100% most of them need to be legal, right?

02:22:42.000 I'm not for illegals being here, but I'm just saying what they're saying, what they argue is we were here first, we're from this land.

02:22:48.000 We are Apache, we are Cherokee, you know, whatever Indian tribe, because that's what Mexicans really are. 0.96

02:22:54.000 I mean, people aren't typically deporting Indians.

02:22:56.000 Well, what do you think Mexicanos are, man? 0.70

02:23:00.000 The Spanish and the Indian got together.

02:23:03.000 Right, right, right.

02:23:04.000 I agree.

02:23:05.000 So, you know, that's what they are.

02:23:08.000 But they're Indians.

02:23:09.000 I mean, that's the Indian is Mexican.

02:23:12.000 The person speaking Spanish is speaking the language from Spain, but they're brown, they're Indians. 1.00

02:23:17.000 They're from, they're indigenous to this this country.

02:23:20.000 So what I'm saying is that how the way they feel the argument I hear just the same as I'm hearing your argument right now.

02:23:25.000 And I'm sure all of you can understand this.

02:23:27.000 They feel that they are from here.

02:23:29.000 This is their land and that's what they're going to fight for.

02:23:32.000 But then I think this is coming.

02:23:33.000 I think this is coming.

02:23:34.000 Is that you have people who take that identity, which is so strong to them because they're basing it on history, just like what I said, that and they're willing to fight for it versus So do you see the problem here?

02:23:47.000 Yeah, I think the problem is that both are coming.

02:23:50.000 They're both clashing right now.

02:23:51.000 Is that the average American doesn't think that way.

02:23:54.000 To the average American thinks, well, anyone can become an American as long as you believe in America.

02:23:58.000 I'm a bide by the laws of America.

02:24:01.000 And it's just it's it's going to come into that clash just to answer his question.

02:24:05.000 It's going to come into clash with people who have the older way of thinking.

02:24:08.000 If that argument, that argument is valid, if they're talking about their property and not just we belong to the land.

02:24:16.000 We don't do blood and soil here, right?

02:24:19.000 That's the argument that I'm making is we're not a blood and soil.

02:24:22.000 Like it's not about blood and soil.

02:24:24.000 The argument that if you're talking about the natives and they're saying this is how we're going to do it.

02:24:27.000 That's their argument, not mine.

02:24:30.000 But the point that I'm making is if they're going to make that argument, that's a blood and soil argument.

02:24:34.000 That's the same, like that is, that is we have a They're willing to fight for that.

02:24:37.000 I mean, look, they already lost.

02:24:40.000 They're actually losing.

02:24:41.000 Are they losing now?

02:24:42.000 They will.

02:24:44.000 If they want to fight about it.

02:24:45.000 It doesn't look like it.

02:24:46.000 Are they losing now?

02:24:47.000 Well, I would say no.

02:24:48.000 I mean, I think they're losing.

02:24:51.000 I think, I mean, you know, look at ICE, look at everything that's happening.

02:24:54.000 I mean, there's no more protests, there's no more riots.

02:24:56.000 If they were When you're hunkering down and hiding, you're not winning.

02:24:59.000 You're not winning.

02:25:00.000 I'd say, I don't know, I'd say, remember the Alamo.

02:25:00.000 No.

02:25:03.000 Yeah.

02:25:04.000 But the point that I'm making, if they're if they own property and they're like, you're not kicking me out of my property, that's fine.

02:25:10.000 That's one argument.

02:25:11.000 That's an American argument.

02:25:13.000 Right, right.

02:25:13.000 When you're making an argument, this is my land because my people.

02:25:16.000 My people, I'm just saying we have to No, no, no, no, that doesn't fly in America.

02:25:19.000 Right, that's unamerican.

02:25:21.000 Just like what he said, you know, the Mayflower, the Protestants, the, the, the whites coming here, that's you feel like that's what makes you more American, correct? 0.93

02:25:27.000 I think, no, I don't think so because he's poor.

02:25:30.000 Okay, but also, but what about the Mexicans and Indians that were here before them that are American and that were conquered in that part of America?

02:25:36.000 Yes, that's that's part of it.

02:25:38.000 They're also part of their American culture.

02:25:40.000 If they were there, but like the vast majority of Hispanic Americans migrated to the country post. 0.92

02:25:45.000 Well, no, a lot of them were, were fighting the settlers, no doubt about it.

02:25:48.000 Yeah, and you're talking about still the pockets.

02:25:51.000 Yeah, like there were a lot of Indians that joined the whites and fought against it, you know, they were they were fighting.

02:25:55.000 each other before the War.

02:25:57.000 The crazy thing is, these are all different parts of the story, right?

02:26:01.000 There's a lot of parts of the story.

02:26:03.000 These are a lot of parts make America, right?

02:26:05.000 And it has come that way.

02:26:06.000 And so what I'm saying is that the specific, when the idea that we go back to the Constitution and we argue these things out, and it's why I'm so particular about the words of the Constitution, it's why I get so upset when Marxists add words to the Constitution that were never there, that it's but at the same time, it's the understanding that that was written for a specific group of people in a specific time and place.

02:26:31.000 I was the only asshole with the headphones on.

02:26:32.000 on, so I took them down.

02:26:34.000 And we do well, we do need to take callers.

02:26:37.000 And so, you know, and this, and again, this is why the constitution was given a mechanism to expand as the country has expanded or adapt.

02:26:47.000 Let's talk to them.

02:26:48.000 I told Manic Mustache that I talked to them first.

02:26:51.000 My boy.

02:26:52.000 What's up, Manic Mustache?

02:26:53.000 How you doing?

02:26:54.000 Hello, everybody.

02:26:55.000 It's your favorite mustache, your otaku. 0.78

02:26:58.000 I just had a I'm actually going to change my name to the migrant mustache because it feels like every time I call in, it's migration. 0.76

02:27:07.000 Awesome.

02:27:08.000 What's your day, man?

02:27:09.000 How you doing?

02:27:10.000 What's your take?

02:27:11.000 Do you have a take on this or do you have another question?

02:27:14.000 I mean, if you really want me to, if I could take a small bite, which is that my family was ran from this country years ago, went back to Mexico, came back and bought the land that was taken from my family.

02:27:24.000 So that's the way it's supposed to be done, but that's a whole other conversation.

02:27:28.000 Property.

02:27:30.000 Property rights.

02:27:31.000 Property, oh.

02:27:33.000 Yeah, I served in the I served in the Navy with a guy who had a remarkably similar story.

02:27:39.000 The way he would put it was, you know, we didn't cross the border.

02:27:41.000 The border crossed us.

02:27:43.000 Yeah.

02:27:43.000 And those are the times from the 70s that they all that was the mantra of Mecha.

02:27:48.000 And then after the UFW came in and kind of tore that all to pieces, then you have a divided Chicano, Tejano and, you know, wet back culture. 0.71

02:27:57.000 True.

02:27:57.000 Mojave.

02:28:02.000 Okay, my question is actually after the recent tragedies in Florida and recent and Phil's recent disparity, disparaging remarks against truck driving industry, when is the government going to be held responsible for giving these basically incompetent people licenses?

02:28:19.000 Because Phil's talking about destroying the company as someone who owns a company.

02:28:23.000 If I hire someone and I'm told that he has the credentials and then, you know.

02:28:26.000 And then the government who was supposed to protect me from these robber barons isn't doing their job.

02:28:31.000 Yep.

02:28:31.000 So why aren't we hearing about the government officials and the agencies that should be held accountable?

02:28:36.000 I'm not right on this, Phil.

02:28:37.000 Are you going after the truckers, man?

02:28:39.000 Yeah.

02:28:40.000 So because the trucker that killed those three people in Florida, my argument is that's a migrant trucker. 0.99

02:28:46.000 That's not all truckers.

02:28:48.000 It's a migrant trucker. 1.00

02:28:49.000 He said that trucking is not a job.

02:28:51.000 He said that truckers' lives matter.

02:28:53.000 I No, hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:28:56.000 If you're talking about Hong Kong, Hong Kong, the new fist.

02:29:01.000 The new fist.

02:29:03.000 The point that I'm making is if you are an immigrant, right, a migrant, and you kill someone because of. 1.00

02:29:10.000 negligence like that guy did.

02:29:11.000 The government should go after the guy that owns the business that contracted the truck driver because he didn't make sure it wasn't hired the migrant. 0.97

02:29:20.000 Yeah, because he hired the migrant. 1.00

02:29:21.000 And I think that the government should take his trucks and auction those trucks off to his competition because he broke the law.

02:29:29.000 So I wonder if I can trace that person with good faith thinking that, hey, he has all the credentials.

02:29:35.000 So go ahead, jump in the truck, big dog.

02:29:38.000 Well, I mean, look, so I understand your point and it's a point well taken.

02:29:42.000 And I do think that the federal government should do something about states like California.

02:29:47.000 So your point is well taken.

02:29:49.000 When is that going to happen?

02:29:50.000 But, well, I don't know when that's going to happen.

02:29:51.000 I'm not in the administration, man.

02:29:52.000 I'm just a guy that's talking.

02:29:54.000 So, but the point is, right?

02:29:56.000 Like the government should go after the people that are actually committing the crimes and their employers.

02:30:05.000 If you employ a person and, and honestly, in this context, it doesn't work that way because the guy couldn't read English, right?

02:30:12.000 So, like, okay, fine.

02:30:14.000 Like he's got the paperwork, but you can figure out that he can't speak English well.

02:30:18.000 And if he can't speak English, can he read it?

02:30:20.000 You know what I mean?

02:30:21.000 Let's let's actually, yeah.

02:30:22.000 So you're, so you're, you know, you have, you say you have a company, you have employees.

02:30:26.000 When, when, when.

02:30:27.000 When employees come to you, if they're on a visa, what sort of things do you look for when you're hiring someone?

02:30:33.000 Well, I mean, if you're No, I'm asking a colleague.

02:30:36.000 Yeah, you look for all the required paperwork.

02:30:39.000 We take your paperwork.

02:30:41.000 We have a payroll company.

02:30:42.000 So you have, like, if they are an immigrant that's here on a visa, for example, you take that, you submit that to our payroll company. 0.95

02:30:48.000 They say, hey, everything checks out.

02:30:50.000 They're good to go.

02:30:51.000 All right.

02:30:52.000 Welcome aboard, Jose.

02:30:53.000 Or even I've got a Vincent, all right?

02:30:56.000 This guy's from Ukraine.

02:30:58.000 And I know you guys love the blondes and the Slavs and whatnot. 0.95

02:31:01.000 So I kept one on for you guys.

02:31:02.000 No, they got a guy too.

02:31:03.000 I'm married to one.

02:31:05.000 Not a Vincent though.

02:31:07.000 I don't care where they're from, they just have to go if they're not allowed. 0.99

02:31:10.000 Well, so, no, well, let me ask you this.

02:31:12.000 So let's get into the liability question then.

02:31:15.000 Do you think, or have you ever heard of anyone who's been in a situation like this where they did start, where the government did start looking at the, about the employer because of something one of their truckers did?

02:31:28.000 I don't, like I said, I'm not truck, I'm not into the truck industry anymore, but in my industry, yeah, you have a lot of companies that are actually dumping these guys who they're going back to their payroll and going, oh, this guy, he's worked here before.

02:31:41.000 Sorry guy, you got to kick rocks because you've had two social security numbers before.

02:31:45.000 So if anything, it's helping these, it's helping guys like us be competitive with the big guys because now they have to actually hire people that are of this country.

02:31:56.000 Because like a little guy like me, I have to make sure that every time like if a guy gets deported and I find out he gets deported because his, you know, paperwork wasn't right and then he comes back with a different, you know, paperwork.

02:32:08.000 Well, it's like, bro, I can't hire you.

02:32:10.000 Like, right.

02:32:10.000 You know that.

02:32:11.000 I know you're not Jose this time.

02:32:13.000 Your name is Rodrigo, my guy.

02:32:15.000 Right, but you still have to have, you have to carry a liability insurance for your truckers, right?

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