Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump Floats SHUTTING DOWN FEMA, US Begins FREEZE of Foreign Aid w- Elijah Schaffer| Timcast IRL

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00:00:52.000 They're getting arrested by ICE. He's talking about getting rid of FEMA. He's talking about all kinds of stuff.

00:00:59.000 So we're going to start talking about that tonight.

00:01:02.000 We got FEMA turned out to be a disaster, Trump says.

00:01:06.000 We're going to talk about the State Department issuing immediate widespread pause on foreign aid.

00:01:11.000 That's a pretty big deal.

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00:03:32.000 And joining us to talk about this and so much more, we have Elijah Schaefer.

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00:03:53.000 No, my name is Elijah Schaefer.

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00:04:19.000 Elijah, it's been a long time.

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00:04:49.000 So, FEMA. Turned out to be a disaster.

00:04:52.000 Trump calls for overhaul eradication of federal emergency aid agency.

00:04:56.000 Look, I like the idea of downsizing the government.

00:05:00.000 And whatever shape that takes, I'm probably going to be for it.

00:05:05.000 The Post Millennial says, on Thursday, President Donald Trump said he will be signing an executive order to reform the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, or get rid of the agency altogether.

00:05:18.000 During a stop in Asheville, North Carolina, an area ravaged by Hurricane Helene, Trump held a press conference in the airport and said, I'll also be signing an executive order to begin the process of fundamentally reforming and overhauling FEMA, or maybe getting rid of FEMA. I don't know.

00:05:39.000 I think, frankly, FEMA's not good, Donald Trump says.

00:05:42.000 I think when you have a problem like this, I think you want to go, and whether it's a Democrat or Republican governor, you want to use your state to fix it and not waste time calling FEMA, Trump added.

00:05:51.000 Well, I mean, does anybody really find it strange, given North Carolina and Hawaii, that people would be doubtful about whether they're able to actually do anything of note?

00:06:00.000 No?

00:06:00.000 No.

00:06:01.000 No, I don't think that it's a stretch at all.

00:06:04.000 I mean, I think that...

00:06:05.000 Personally, I think that the federal government should be downsized.

00:06:09.000 So if they can streamline getting funds to disaster areas, and you don't have to have FEMA to be the arbiter of who does and does not get the funds.

00:06:19.000 So if it wasn't to come through FEMA, then it would come through what department?

00:06:23.000 I don't know.

00:06:24.000 I'm not sure.

00:06:25.000 Through the state instead of the federal government.

00:06:26.000 Oh, so you're saying not even have the federal government involved at all.

00:06:28.000 As I understand, FEMA's federal, and then if they didn't have their help, it would just be through the state.

00:06:33.000 Okay.

00:06:34.000 Yeah, and they say FEMA stands for things like fails every month.

00:06:37.000 Absolutely.

00:06:38.000 Like you can guarantee whatever they do they're going to fail in.

00:06:40.000 I think Trump is being smart here because he's not saying we're going to stop the federal funds to...

00:06:46.000 Disaster zones.

00:06:48.000 What he's pointing out is that FEMA, like the TSA or any of these government agencies, is probably bloated with waste and corruption.

00:06:54.000 You see that, right?

00:06:55.000 FEMA takes sometimes days to a week or more to get on the field.

00:06:59.000 You already have emergency crews from locals going out.

00:07:02.000 Plus, once they get there, they sort of get in the way of locals actually helping.

00:07:05.000 And so they end up causing more problems than good.

00:07:08.000 And that's against Trump supporters.

00:07:10.000 That's true.

00:07:11.000 And it's also a great point.

00:07:13.000 They do take the time that they take, especially in the...

00:07:16.000 It's not a surprise when a hurricane...

00:07:19.000 It hits.

00:07:20.000 They're like, oh my gosh, who predicted this?

00:07:22.000 I've been watching a live stream for two weeks about it.

00:07:24.000 Where were you?

00:07:25.000 Whether it be a hurricane or the snow that just happened across the southeast into Florida and places that don't normally get snow, you had warning.

00:07:36.000 It's 2025 and there's a significant infrastructure to predict the weather and predict these kind of things.

00:07:44.000 Sure, when it comes to something like an earthquake, You know, if there were an earthquake in California, then okay, everyone gets surprised about an earthquake.

00:07:52.000 But even forest fires, the fires that California is experiencing going through, it's not a surprise that California is having fires.

00:08:00.000 They have fires every year.

00:08:02.000 So the idea that you have to take so long to get under the ground to actually have people start helping, I don't think that...

00:08:11.000 That's actually the case.

00:08:12.000 I think that you're right.

00:08:13.000 It is federally.

00:08:14.000 It's bloat from the federal government.

00:08:16.000 What was the purpose?

00:08:17.000 I remember the story about federal government employees getting involved and saying that locals couldn't help.

00:08:23.000 Was that something to do with liability?

00:08:26.000 Like, I was surprised by that, but I didn't know any more about it.

00:08:29.000 I don't know anything about why.

00:08:32.000 A lot of times the jurisdiction, they're...

00:08:35.000 There's arguments over who does and does not have jurisdiction, so I'm not sure.

00:08:39.000 But you had also made another good point, Elijah, the fact that FEMA, like everything else in the federal government, has been politicized.

00:08:47.000 Yeah, they've been super politicized.

00:08:49.000 I also think that...

00:08:50.000 It's not safe to say that they don't know there's going to be an earthquake because I'm from L.A. We all know that there's going to be.

00:08:56.000 Even an average family has to have an earthquake-prepared emergency kit in their home.

00:09:00.000 The state tells you to do it.

00:09:01.000 Your county tells you to do it.

00:09:02.000 I mean, this is common stuff.

00:09:03.000 I've been at least in a strong enough earthquake that it knocked my TV over and broke it.

00:09:07.000 Born and raised in Whittier with the Whittier earthquake.

00:09:08.000 It was really, really catastrophic right there on the fault lines in the Whittier Hills.

00:09:12.000 Shout out to the people in East L.A. over there.

00:09:15.000 But that being said, not only that, but they discriminated against Americans.

00:09:19.000 And to answer your question, I mean, okay, on one hand, I got to support FEMA because there's the most lesbians, I think, in the history of the department currently serving there right now.

00:09:27.000 And shout out to those people who are into crafts and sometimes you use scissors, whether it's in the classroom or in the bedroom.

00:09:33.000 I mean, good for you.

00:09:34.000 But to the rest of you guys who are out there, I mean, I don't know.

00:09:38.000 I mean, lesbians have not been known to do much more than maybe be involved in domestic violence. 0.87

00:09:42.000 So I think one of the main things that I take away from this is that these agencies are about woke policies.

00:09:47.000 They're about replacing, you know, qualified individuals.

00:09:50.000 When I was there, I remember people couldn't get jobs in departments like this in L.A. because they were white men. 0.99

00:09:54.000 And so these places are corrupt institutionally on who they hire.

00:09:57.000 They're bloated in their budgets.

00:09:59.000 They have slow response teams.

00:10:01.000 They're also discriminatory in their handbooks towards people based on their politics.

00:10:05.000 And you said, why don't they let people go?

00:10:07.000 People do speculate on this.

00:10:09.000 But what I've heard the best theory is that the government, FEMA, is in such a catastrophic position that they have to stop American citizens from helping because it'll make them look bad and they have to be needed and wanted.

00:10:20.000 So if Americans are faster at responding, getting supply chains set up faster and are more reliable than FEMA, then what does that mean about FEMA? It should be dissolved.

00:10:28.000 And they don't want that and they're in a very dire position.

00:10:31.000 So they were trying to stop that in North Carolina.

00:10:33.000 So instead they just stopped helping.

00:10:35.000 It's like they just stopped.

00:10:39.000 The idea that the federal emergency management would stop, right?

00:10:45.000 They would say, look, we need to prevent people helping.

00:10:49.000 We need to prevent the locals from helping because the help will make us look bad.

00:10:57.000 Part of me says, no, that can't be true.

00:11:00.000 There's no way that that would happen.

00:11:03.000 But then I also think about this is the federal government.

00:11:07.000 This is probably the least far-fetched and least crazy You know, the thing that's been discussed about FEMA and how they distribute aid.

00:11:18.000 Well, remember, the X-Files predicted a long time ago that FEMA was an absolutely evil agency.

00:11:24.000 That had to do with alien abductions and coercion between the United States government and alien colonists.

00:11:32.000 But, you know, same thing.

00:11:33.000 So if there were an alien race that visited the U.S., do you think that FEMA would be involved and they would be facilitating?

00:11:39.000 Well, if there was a crash, right, like they crash in Roswell and they, you know, you don't send any unit other than FEMA over there to get them.

00:11:46.000 Absolutely.

00:11:46.000 At all?

00:11:47.000 Yeah.

00:11:47.000 No one else?

00:11:48.000 No, no one else.

00:11:49.000 Not even like the military?

00:11:50.000 Well, I'm sure that the, I mean, military contractors would be working with them, right?

00:11:54.000 With FEMA or with the aliens? 0.99

00:11:56.000 With FEMA.

00:11:57.000 At this point, under Biden's administration, we were like one year away from having FEMA be literal aliens, like illegal aliens, right?

00:12:03.000 And on top of that, I always thought it's weird, you know, like FEMA can't get aid across LA because AIDS spreads quicker in Los Angeles than anywhere in the entire country.

00:12:11.000 I mean, look at West Hollywood, right?

00:12:12.000 So it's like, you know...

00:12:14.000 I don't think that it's actually as effective as any agency could be.

00:12:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:17.000 Well, like, okay, but jokes aside, you know, we do know LA is mismanaged.

00:12:22.000 We know that the federal government is mismanaged.

00:12:24.000 This isn't sort of a...

00:12:25.000 Like, is anyone surprised?

00:12:26.000 And so I think what's going to happen here is this is going to be a battle against people, again, believing the mainstream media, taking the establishment institutional position versus believing our eyes, right?

00:12:37.000 Once again, it's like, you know, did Elon Musk, Sigh Heil?

00:12:40.000 Yes.

00:12:41.000 No.

00:12:41.000 Did he do it on purpose?

00:12:42.000 No.

00:12:42.000 Obviously he was saying he's autistic and he was saying, you know, I give out my heart or whatever.

00:12:46.000 And he's autistic, so you're making fun of a disabled person. 0.67

00:12:49.000 You guys who are accusing him of racism are ableist.

00:12:52.000 But the most important part about that is it's like, look, we can look with our eyes.

00:12:56.000 We know what the mainstream media is saying.

00:12:57.000 We know their lies.

00:12:58.000 We know their tactics.

00:12:59.000 And so with someone like FEMA, we just saw them credibly fail and get exposed for anti-Trump corruption.

00:13:05.000 If you're new to this, you know, basically there was a memorandum sent out.

00:13:09.000 To teams in the recovery in Florida that literally told them directly to overlook homes with Trump signs.

00:13:16.000 And that's on top of their handbook that said to not hit up white areas or affluent areas first but help queer and black people first.

00:13:22.000 This is in their handbook.

00:13:23.000 So when you have an agency like that and we have the evidence, the media is going to be like, Trump's trying to stop aid.

00:13:29.000 When in reality, I think he just – we can see, well, somebody has got to finally fix these government budgets and do something because these aren't really working.

00:13:36.000 Am I the only person who sees this?

00:13:38.000 No, the problem is though the headlines that get to be created out of his budget cuts and stuff like that are too good for the politically uninformed.

00:13:45.000 They'll read it and they will take it as fact without understanding the deeper process behind why.

00:13:50.000 I mean, I feel like that's going to be the situation just broadly when it comes to the average person that isn't consuming political content regularly.

00:14:03.000 So it's my sense that your average normie that isn't really read into politics probably spends about 30 minutes to an hour per week.

00:14:14.000 On their political information, right?

00:14:16.000 These are the people that have lives, they have kids, they have jobs, and they'll catch a couple things that they hear on TV or on the internet somehow.

00:14:25.000 Maybe they have an X account, but if they have an X account, it's unlikely that they're not really read it at all.

00:14:31.000 So they get their information.

00:14:34.000 You know, half from the morning, you know, local news and half from The View, which is, I mean, which means they're mostly uninformed.

00:14:42.000 Or it's like when Bill Burr talks about, when he was in, he talks about, you know, well, I think it was handled just fine.

00:14:48.000 What you're saying is there's a difference between government mismanagement and firefighters doing their best with the limited resources they had to fight the fires.

00:14:57.000 Now the average person who's not paying close attention is going to assume that he means both but we understand that he is just uninformed and doesn't know what he's talking about.

00:15:06.000 Yeah.

00:15:07.000 I think the larger issue at hand when it comes to FEMA is that what Americans really want is effective emergency disaster relief whenever and wherever it happens.

00:15:17.000 And what we're looking for is the most effective way to deal with it.

00:15:20.000 I think Ron DeSantis proved over and over again that the state was more effective in handling it than On the state level rather than the federal level was more effective.

00:15:29.000 If Trump's going to move forward with abolishing FEMA, so long as I think he redirects those funds to the states who should have a better handling and understanding of what's going on in the state than the federal government does is the right way to go.

00:15:41.000 But at the end of the day, that's what the American people want.

00:15:43.000 They want effective disaster relief.

00:15:45.000 They want fire departments that promote and hire people based on meritocracy, not based on some LGBT or DEI stuff.

00:15:52.000 You saw that, right?

00:15:54.000 That was crazy. 0.89

00:15:55.000 The police department, the fire department, the top three people there were all lesbians, and there's a short video of one. 0.89

00:16:01.000 Hold on.

00:16:01.000 The points that you're making about Ron DeSantis and the states handling it, that's really going to depend on who's in charge of the state, because if you look at the way that, you know, L.A. And California have been governed.

00:16:14.000 It's an absolute disaster.

00:16:15.000 It's a disaster just as bad as the fire.

00:16:17.000 Well, they're set up to get help from the government.

00:16:19.000 Hold on.

00:16:19.000 Ron DeSantis is the most competent, at least as far as anyone can tell, is the most competent, you know, governor in the United States.

00:16:27.000 Whether you're talking about his management of emergencies or you're talking about the way that they run elections and stuff, Florida is really the exemplary state in the U.S. Can I put a caveat on that?

00:16:40.000 I'm not going to correct you.

00:16:41.000 But I think what's important for this, because we sometimes can forget that, you know, being from New York, I think you are.

00:16:48.000 I'm from L.A. I now live in Florida.

00:16:50.000 But, you know, these are a little bit of like elitist bubbles, especially depending on the region.

00:16:54.000 The reason why I believe we think that DeSantis is the best governor is because he's...

00:16:59.000 Kind of like one of the only good significant governors.

00:17:02.000 This sounds so dismissive of the rest of the countries, but when you have states that are as large as Florida, as California, as New York, with these highly populated metropolitan centers, the ability for corruption in Chicago and Illinois to be there is pretty much unavoidable.

00:17:18.000 It's unavoidable.

00:17:19.000 And so it's almost like it's an anomaly, and we just haven't seen it.

00:17:22.000 And I think that there probably are...

00:17:24.000 Equally adequate governors in smaller states.

00:17:26.000 Say that again. 0.71

00:17:27.000 Articulate that differently.

00:17:28.000 Are you saying that Florida is an anomaly because it isn't as corrupt as others?

00:17:32.000 It's an anomaly because of the size that it is and the amount of money and the size of its economy.

00:17:37.000 Because it's the size of an average nation around the world, and yet it operates strategically and in such a way that we do not see such widespread corruption that does not benefit the average people.

00:17:49.000 Meaning there's no property tax, yet at the same time it's managed much better than Texas.

00:17:53.000 I have a business.

00:17:53.000 I think there are some very, very, very I'm not saying I could do it.

00:18:23.000 I'm just saying we look at DeSantis and that's to show you that our leaders are capable.

00:18:28.000 And I don't want to say this to not just governors.

00:18:30.000 He's at like a federal level responsibility.

00:18:33.000 That when you're managing 20, 30 million, 40 million people, it can be done.

00:18:37.000 And so when we look at Chicago, when we look at Houston, when we look at Dallas, when we look at LA, when we look at New York, what the hell are you doing?

00:18:44.000 Because South Metropolitan Miami-Dade area, I mean, some parts of it, some of the recent migration are pretty problematic, but overall the state is functioning pretty damn well.

00:18:53.000 And I feel like...

00:18:54.000 To me, it just makes me think how much corruption is going on and exactly where is the problem?

00:18:59.000 Because if it can be done there, there's no damn reason why it shouldn't be able to be done somewhere else.

00:19:03.000 I think that was the point that I was making.

00:19:05.000 Yeah, no, it's just caveating.

00:19:06.000 On to it.

00:19:07.000 I mean, obviously, I totally agree with you.

00:19:10.000 I think that Florida is the best-run state in the U.S., at least to an outsider, as far as I can tell.

00:19:17.000 And I do think that the people that are running it matters.

00:19:21.000 I think that you're not going to get...

00:19:25.000 You're not going to get that with Chicago, with the people that they elect.

00:19:30.000 Their mayor is completely captured by the whole leftist ideology.

00:19:36.000 And as long as that's the situation, you can't help but run into corruption and all sorts of problems from the state.

00:19:46.000 So as much as I do agree with you a lot, but I think that...

00:19:49.000 I think that it's exemplary of the people.

00:19:52.000 Does being, okay, so I was thinking about how in Bush's second term, right, a lot of people said that Katrina was a huge downfall to him, right?

00:20:02.000 Is that even – like if you get rid of FEMA and you take your emergency management organization money and you push it to the states, does that actually take some of the heat off a president on the federal side if it's then done exclusively through the state, even if the money is coming from the federal level down?

00:20:19.000 I mean I'd argue – Because there's no organization to link it back to him?

00:20:23.000 The idea is that the state would be able to more effectively deal with the disaster.

00:20:27.000 But I feel as though some states are more prepared on purpose and other states aren't on purpose because they know the federal funding would be coming on the other side is one of the issues here.

00:20:36.000 One of the things, too, as far as the governors go...

00:20:39.000 I think there are half-decent, I don't know, is it kosher to say on here?

00:20:42.000 There are half-decent Democrat governors.

00:20:45.000 I think some of us tend to stay in a bubble and we're willing to overlook them.

00:20:48.000 So, for example, in Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, I think, makes an effective governor.

00:20:53.000 And in the same way how Governor Ron DeSantis was able to repair bridges after whatever disaster, I think on the I-95 collapse, Josh Shapiro was also able to quickly move to fix that disaster.

00:21:06.000 I-95?

00:21:06.000 Yeah, there was a big bridge collapse on I-95.

00:21:08.000 That was in Maryland.

00:21:09.000 More than a few people.

00:21:11.000 I thought, wait, are you talking about during the hurricane or what?

00:21:13.000 No, there was, like, also in Pennsylvania, there was, like, an oil tanker that hit, like, a bridge.

00:21:18.000 That was in Maryland?

00:21:18.000 That was in Maryland, yeah.

00:21:20.000 95 doesn't go through.

00:21:26.000 Isn't that Baltimore?

00:21:27.000 Yeah, it's in Baltimore.

00:21:28.000 Remember that, yeah, the DEI at Mare?

00:21:30.000 Yeah, he forgot to get his...

00:21:32.000 So there was one, there was a, I'm reading it now, there was a...

00:21:35.000 There's a collapsed bridge in Pennsylvania that he was able to quickly and effectively build back up by skirting different regulations and making people work.

00:21:44.000 More than a few people here especially have said that it was insane that they chose Tim Walz to run.

00:21:49.000 I guess we found out later that Shapiro didn't want anything to do with it, and I think that's because they understood that Shapiro was a more effective candidate, and that was why it was so surprising that they didn't choose him.

00:22:04.000 Let's go on to this next story here.

00:22:07.000 Hold on, give me this.

00:22:09.000 Are you going to get the new shirt?

00:22:10.000 The State Department issues immediate widespread pause on foreign aid from Politico.

00:22:16.000 The stop work orders appear to apply to U.S. aid for all countries except for Israel and Egypt.

00:22:21.000 This ought to be great.

00:22:22.000 Secretary of State Marco Rubio halted spending Friday on most existing foreign aid grants for 90 days.

00:22:28.000 The order, which shocks State Department officials, appears to apply to funding for military assistance to Ukraine, which I think is a positive issue.

00:22:37.000 Rubio's guidance issued to all diplomatic and...

00:22:41.000 Consular Post requires department staffers to issue stop work orders on nearly all foreign...

00:22:46.000 on nearly all existing foreign assistance awards, excuse me, according to the document, which was obtained by Politico.

00:22:53.000 It is effective immediately.

00:22:54.000 It appears to go further than President Donald Trump's recent executive order, which instructed the department to pause foreign aid grants for 90 days, pending review by the secretary.

00:23:03.000 It had not been clear from the president's order if it would affect already appropriated funds or Ukraine aid.

00:23:09.000 What do you guys think about stopping foreign aid?

00:23:13.000 Personally, I love the idea of ending all foreign aid because just like I think that when you give individuals money, you turn them into wards of the state and you make them dependent on the state.

00:23:26.000 I think when you give other countries foreign aid, I think that it does make them dependent on the United States.

00:23:33.000 I will say the one thing that the one...

00:23:36.000 I think positive argument about foreign aid is when you have as much stupid debt as the United States does and you give foreign countries dollars, that incentivizes them to spend the dollars and use the dollars, meaning that your currency is going to be propped up by that as opposed to people who stop using it. 0.75

00:23:57.000 If they have the money and it's valuable or they see value in it, they're going to spend it and that's good for the... 0.95

00:24:03.000 For propping up the dollar.

00:24:04.000 Now, that's not saying that I like the idea of foreign aid.

00:24:06.000 I think that it's a net negative, but at least I want to talk about some of the arguments that people would consider a pro.

00:24:14.000 But what are we thinking here?

00:24:16.000 Is there anybody here?

00:24:18.000 Alad, what do you think about foreign aid, man?

00:24:21.000 I think foreign aid is an important foreign policy that we have in our country.

00:24:29.000 Having said that, I think for way too long, American foreign aid has been taken for granted and been taken advantage of by other countries.

00:24:38.000 And every single, all foreign aid that we are giving out to people does need to be re-evaluated for how important and useful it is to advance American policy objectives around the world.

00:24:50.000 That's a good question.

00:24:51.000 I mean...

00:24:52.000 Look, the stopping the foreign aid thing, it's always going to come with an exception, right?

00:24:56.000 And I think right now there's three countries that are...

00:24:58.000 Am I incorrect that it's still three countries that are exceptions?

00:25:01.000 It was Egypt and Israel. 0.99

00:25:02.000 I know it's Egypt, Jordan, and Israel, right?

00:25:05.000 Which is all just saying Israel.

00:25:06.000 So I heard this story the other day, I think it was two or three days ago, and I don't know...

00:25:11.000 And this particular piece that CNN is reporting, or Politico is reporting here, this is actually new today.

00:25:19.000 Last I heard, it was Egypt, Jordan, and Israel.

00:25:23.000 I don't know if it's still Jordan.

00:25:25.000 I think that there's an update because it said that the proposal was from Trump originally, and then what Marco Rubio did actually goes further than what Trump was talking about, but go ahead.

00:25:33.000 I don't need to cut you off.

00:25:34.000 No, yeah.

00:25:34.000 Look, and these things could be changing live as we go.

00:25:36.000 I mean, there's a bridge that collapsed in Pennsylvania, a bridge that collapsed in Maryland.

00:25:40.000 The point is, it's kind of sad that the...

00:25:43.000 The state of our infrastructure, the bridges are collapsing, right?

00:25:45.000 And there's more than one, and then that's the issue.

00:25:47.000 So with something like this, too, it feels kind of similar.

00:25:49.000 It's like, okay, well, Egypt and Israel, let's be honest, it's the same foreign aid package if you really look at our objectives.

00:25:56.000 Some people could argue in favor of that, right?

00:25:58.000 Could say, well, I mean, this is where we're objectively giving to an ally.

00:26:01.000 I mean, obviously, I would probably, you know...

00:26:07.000 I think allies don't just take that they give back a lot, particularly in your times of need.

00:26:13.000 But we don't see a lot of the two-way giving in the way I'd like to see, per se.

00:26:17.000 So, I mean, I understand that a lot of people are really sold out for Israel, either spiritually.

00:26:22.000 I know that there's a lot of people that are captured ideologically outside of, you know, people blame AIPAC for everything.

00:26:28.000 Some people are just Protestant Christians, which I think people really dismiss in this country.

00:26:33.000 I understand that it's probably really easy to keep the money flowing.

00:26:35.000 There's so much political lobbying.

00:26:37.000 I mean, Israel pays too much money to politically lobby to give up their foreign aid.

00:26:41.000 So to me, I still think this is a win.

00:26:43.000 I know people are going to hate me for this, but it's like, look, if we even got the political...

00:26:47.000 You know, lobbying, cornered enough with Qatar and other nations that we are able to melt down our foreign aid down to at least two countries.

00:26:54.000 Am I happy with it?

00:26:55.000 Is it perfect?

00:26:56.000 But this is my opinion on the people that are constantly negative about this Trump administration.

00:27:00.000 Yeah, Trump's a Zionist. 0.73

00:27:02.000 He's open about it.

00:27:03.000 And he's not going to stop supporting Israel. 0.72

00:27:05.000 And if you thought you were voting for him and that's what he's going to do, he's not.

00:27:07.000 He's also not bringing about the Fourth Reich.

00:27:09.000 And he's not a white nationalist.

00:27:10.000 And he's not a white supremacist.

00:27:12.000 And he's not a national socialist.

00:27:13.000 He's a centrist.

00:27:14.000 And he said during his inauguration That he's bringing around colorblind meritocracy That's the most fence-sitting bullshit That you could possibly say If you were trying to be right-wing He's still a 90s Democrat Well yeah, he's just a moderate guy But unfortunately for us, it's like, you know Things have gone so far left that even just pulling towards some common sense, I'm going to say, as someone who would be considered staunchly right, I still celebrate the win towards the center.

00:27:38.000 And so even if I could sit here and say, yeah, I'm not happy that we're still giving five, six billion dollars to these countries who are politically lobbying us and it shows you we don't have full control of our government.

00:27:47.000 The fact if we can even get the fire contained 30 or 40 percent, I don't want to be one of those guys that's just, oh, this isn't a win because we didn't get all of our countries.

00:27:58.000 Any money that the government doesn't spend is a victory because the government is always, always not just spending money, it's always increasing spending.

00:28:07.000 I think it's a big win because of the fact that we are not giving money to Ukraine, which is, that's been the biggest consumer of American foreign aid for the past two years, definitely.

00:28:20.000 I'd love to see foreign aid stopped going to Israel and to Jordan and to Egypt and all.

00:28:27.000 Like I said, just overall, I think that foreign aid is a net negative.

00:28:32.000 When it comes to foreign aid, I do think we're missing a little bit of the forest for the trees, I think is the saying, because beyond America supporting other countries financially and sending arms, we run the world economy, and the backbone of the world economy is based off of Americans' ability to police the seas and allow free trade to occur.

00:28:51.000 So if Americans weren't willing to subsidize free trade globally, it wouldn't exist in the world system would collapse.

00:28:55.000 We have troops all throughout Asia right now that act in a way of foreign aid.

00:29:00.000 And like people often ask, why?

00:29:02.000 Why do we have this foreign policy of trying to support many of these other nations?

00:29:05.000 It's because if we didn't, then the world order would look completely different.

00:29:08.000 If the American military wasn't there to help support South Koreans now with troops stationed there, there would likely be war to continue there.

00:29:14.000 If we don't send money to Egypt, the Egyptian government would likely collapse.

00:29:18.000 If we don't continue to support NATO, which people tend to overlook, then Russia will definitely encroach more on Eastern Europe. 0.90

00:29:27.000 How do I know that?

00:29:28.000 And I said, I don't know that I believe that.

00:29:29.000 I think they'd go after Ukraine, but I don't know that they're looking...

00:29:33.000 I think there's a reason that other countries like Finland and Sweden, I believe, decided to join NATO after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

00:29:40.000 I think Russian ambitions in Eastern Europe are obvious and clear.

00:29:44.000 There's NATO lobbyists and expansionists who have this other idea.

00:29:47.000 I think it's within our interest to help prop up the American world order that we continue to benefit from.

00:29:52.000 Switzerland changing a centuries-old, you know dogma and suddenly supporting Ukraine in a conflict.

00:29:59.000 I mean that Why do you enjoy NATO?

00:30:01.000 That is it?

00:30:02.000 Why do I okay?

00:30:02.000 Well first of all, it's a wind actually supporting Ukraine Switzerland came into God out of your reality.

00:30:07.000 Well, they got out of neutrality on your brain.

00:30:09.000 Yeah And I'm not gonna go to the details you You can look that up.

00:30:11.000 But in terms of like their idea of like their support, they were vocal.

00:30:14.000 There was a politicians.

00:30:15.000 It completely broke composure.

00:30:17.000 That threw me off too when like Swiss politicians.

00:30:21.000 It threw me off.

00:30:21.000 I don't know if Switzerland ended up ever giving arms or they ended up...

00:30:25.000 They both joined NATO, but I want...

00:30:27.000 Why do you think these countries are feeling compelled to join NATO? Okay, that is a very long, I mean, very short and simple.

00:30:36.000 I think that there is, just like we have AIPAC lobbying in our government, there's NATO lobbying.

00:30:40.000 I think this has to do with unification and military expansionism and the military-industrial complex.

00:30:44.000 The more NATO countries that they lobby to get in, then they have to buy the weapons from our military-industrial complex companies.

00:30:49.000 This is about continuing the war machine.

00:30:51.000 I don't think it's because Finland wanted to or was better off, and I don't think Switzerland was better off. 0.51

00:30:55.000 I think it's better off for Finland's defense.

00:30:57.000 I think they're in greater danger.

00:30:58.000 I think being a neutral border country would create actually more strength for them because Finland could then in many ways play both allies to both countries and say, well, we're in net neutral.

00:31:07.000 We'll buy from both and they might be able to negotiate for cheap gas.

00:31:09.000 You have countries competing to bring sovereignty into the nation and to give them all the resources they want at an exchange rate that would be beneficial to people.

00:31:16.000 I'm just saying I don't think certain countries joining NATO is beneficial.

00:31:21.000 And particularly, I don't think NATO is beneficial to the United States considering how little people pay for their own.

00:31:26.000 I think you talk about a lot of these things very ominously because you're missing like the most obvious answer to these questions.

00:31:32.000 So why would Finland want to join NATO and have access to the best weapons on Earth to help deter a potential future invasion?

00:31:38.000 That's why these countries want to join NATO.

00:31:40.000 Did they need to join?

00:31:44.000 Ukraine's not NATO, and they're getting a lot of money.

00:31:46.000 They wanted to be.

00:31:47.000 I know, but they didn't, and they're still getting the weapons.

00:31:49.000 What does that tell the rest of the people?

00:31:50.000 You don't have to join NATO to get protection.

00:31:51.000 You want access to the best weapons on planet Earth, and the guarantee from the United States that they'll defend you because you were scared of countries invading you.

00:32:00.000 It makes a lot of sense.

00:32:01.000 Why would you be afraid if you were neutral and had good form?

00:32:02.000 Why are you afraid?

00:32:03.000 Because Russia is very bellicose in invading its neighboring countries.

00:32:06.000 Well, maybe because they're cozying up and the government is becoming radicalized towards a pro-NATO, not even a pro-West, because the West doesn't need NATO in its current form.

00:32:15.000 In fact, it's been radicalized.

00:32:16.000 We've continually violated our PACs.

00:32:18.000 We're expansionists, and we've actually been provoking Russia. 0.97

00:32:21.000 We're expansionists.

00:32:22.000 But Russia is invading Ukraine, but is Russia expansionist?

00:32:25.000 Okay, the U.S. never, we never even invaded Iraq or Afghanistan.

00:32:28.000 We weren't trying to expand.

00:32:29.000 Our country in that way.

00:32:30.000 But Elijah, no, I'm trying to understand.

00:32:31.000 Do you believe that Russia is an expansionist?

00:32:34.000 Do you think Putin has expansionist ambitions in Ukraine?

00:32:36.000 I think it's unification.

00:32:37.000 I don't think it's expansionism.

00:32:38.000 I think it's unification.

00:32:39.000 Yeah, I do.

00:32:39.000 It's outrageous.

00:32:40.000 I do.

00:32:41.000 I believe that.

00:32:42.000 So you don't believe in any of the sovereignty of Ukraine?

00:32:45.000 I do not believe in eastern Ukraine's sovereignty, no.

00:32:47.000 Eastern Ukraine sovereignty.

00:32:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't believe so. 0.98

00:32:50.000 So not the dumbass, what part of Ukraine is sovereign? 0.98

00:32:53.000 Not Crimea, not dumbass, but what about the rest of it? 0.99

00:32:56.000 West Ukraine, if you will. 0.98

00:32:57.000 Not that I've ever heard such a term.

00:32:58.000 I mean, I'm not a geopolitical, I'm not deciding the borders of the countries, but I do know the Russian ethnic people who already decided or voted to secede and to join Russia and also to give themselves Russian passports, I think they have the right to secede and join Russia. 0.75

00:33:10.000 So I do believe, especially with all the shelling from Western Ukraine.

00:33:12.000 Do they have the right to join NATO if that's what they want to do?

00:33:14.000 Do they have the right?

00:33:16.000 Why would you ask me if I have any Indian authority to decide whether Russia or Ukraine has the right?

00:33:21.000 Everyone has the right to do whatever the hell they want.

00:33:25.000 But if the Ukrainians go to join NATO, do you think they should be able to join NATO? Do I think they should be able to? 1.00

00:33:29.000 If the U.S. is paying for NATO, I don't believe the U.S. should allow them.

00:33:34.000 But you asked me if they should be allowed to.

00:33:36.000 If they want to, they should be allowed to want to join.

00:33:39.000 I can't stop Ukraine, but I think the U.S. should block Ukrainians from joining NATO. They should have. 1.00

00:33:43.000 I think we could have.

00:33:49.000 I think that's so naive.

00:33:51.000 You want to demilitarize Ukraine and that's going to stop Russia from invading. 0.82

00:33:54.000 No, but I do think Putin was done as well.

00:33:56.000 No, it's not, though.

00:33:58.000 It's not.

00:33:58.000 If you look at the expansion of NATO, I do believe this current conflict, especially when you talk about the U.S. literally waging a coup inside of Ukraine about...

00:34:08.000 About 11, well, 11 years ago now, about, and then also with the annexation of Crimea, this has been cooking for, this is a war that's been going on for over 10 years.

00:34:17.000 It escalated with an invasion into what they, what Ukraine calls sovereign territory, but what Russia sees as its own and its own citizenry.

00:34:24.000 It's not a black and white picture.

00:34:26.000 I don't think there's anything, I couldn't say wrong, like, I have no authority.

00:34:30.000 It's like, well, what do you think?

00:34:31.000 Finland can't want to be NATO? Dude, I'm not Finnish.

00:34:34.000 We're the leaders of NATO. I have no freaking clue.

00:34:38.000 I don't live in Finland.

00:34:39.000 I don't know what their domestic and internal problems are and why they would want to.

00:34:43.000 I know why other countries, or why we've expanded, I know what lobbying happened from the military-industrial complex to try to convince and lobby politicians so that they would be able to buy our weapons to keep our imports and our exports up on our weaponry because they have to buy our weapons and NATO-approved weaponry.

00:34:57.000 I know that, and I'm saying I don't believe that the expansion of NATO was really about protecting Europe.

00:35:02.000 I do think it was about money and power.

00:35:04.000 Vlad, do you think that Ukraine should be allowed to join NATO? I think if Ukraine was in NATO, Russia would not have attacked.

00:35:10.000 That's not what I asked.

00:35:11.000 Do you think that Ukraine should be allowed to join NATO? At this point, no, because they're in a conflict and you need to settle all your border disputes if you want to be a part of NATO. Do you think that they should have been allowed to join before Russia invaded?

00:35:21.000 And by Russia invaded, I mean after the 2014 election.

00:35:29.000 Shenanigans and...

00:35:30.000 So I think 20...

00:35:31.000 Because of the election shenanigans is when Putin sent the famous little green men. 0.95

00:35:37.000 Yes.

00:35:37.000 And that's what...

00:35:38.000 They had a border dispute following that.

00:35:40.000 And if you have a border dispute and have an open conflict going on, we don't want to bring you in because we don't want to be dragged into that.

00:35:45.000 So then prior to that, do you think they should have been allowed to join Ukraine?

00:35:48.000 So say that in the 90s when the...

00:35:51.000 You know, Russia was like, look, we got to get these nukes out of Ukraine.

00:35:55.000 We prompt in the United States made agreements that said we'll protect you from Russia if you give up the nukes. 0.96

00:36:01.000 Do you think they should have been allowed to join NATO then?

00:36:03.000 There were some other stipulations like the issue of corruption and different things like that.

00:36:07.000 But yeah, I think it would be a good thing.

00:36:08.000 And if they met, I think now Trump wants it to be like 5% of GDP. Yeah, I think they would have made a great ally.

00:36:15.000 Just like how Poland is one of the best NATO allies currently.

00:36:18.000 Currently, they contribute something like 4.8% of GDP to military spending, and they help contribute to making NATO such a powerful force.

00:36:25.000 And you'll actually notice the further east you go with NATO allies, you'll see them spending a higher percent of GDP on military.

00:36:31.000 And why all of this is we don't need to put our heads in the sand if we pretend we don't know what's going on.

00:36:35.000 They're all more nervous about a Russian invasion as opposed to the French.

00:36:39.000 Are you neocon adjacent?

00:36:40.000 I'm not doing that as an insult.

00:36:41.000 Are you neocon adjacent?

00:36:43.000 Neocon adjacent?

00:36:44.000 What is a neocon?

00:36:45.000 I believe in peace through strength.

00:36:46.000 Okay, that's all.

00:36:48.000 And I believe Trump believes the same thing and Trump is encouraging NATO countries to increase to 5% of GDP spending.

00:36:55.000 That's a very...

00:36:56.000 No, increased military spending.

00:36:58.000 But where?

00:36:59.000 And with who?

00:37:00.000 Who's increasing that spending?

00:37:01.000 To our NATO allies, to our Asian allies, to our Israeli allies.

00:37:05.000 It's like, no, but I think Trump is a nationalist, and I think that he's actually, no, I don't think he's, I think what Trump actually is doing, he's actually tried to modernize our own military.

00:37:14.000 So he's actually come home first, and my person, from what I've seen, is saying he came in in his first administration and realized that not only was Air Force One outdated, that we have a new one coming in 2020 or 2030, the protection and the military, I think it's...

00:37:25.000 Technically considered an Air Force, right?

00:37:26.000 A property of the military.

00:37:28.000 So that was outdated.

00:37:29.000 We have a new one coming out.

00:37:30.000 It still won't be finished until he's out of this term.

00:37:33.000 So he's looking at future positions.

00:37:36.000 He's getting the military set up for the future here.

00:37:39.000 Not only that, he's helped modernize the Navy.

00:37:40.000 We know he started the Space Force.

00:37:42.000 My only derision or difference with you is I do believe that the American military machine has gotten too greedy.

00:37:49.000 And I do believe that there are multiple aspects.

00:37:51.000 And maybe this is where you and I might agree more because I don't think you're a very pro-war.

00:37:55.000 I'm an individual, and a little of my libertarian anti-war Scott Horton side comes out.

00:37:59.000 I do believe that the military-industrial complex is very sneaky, and it's not just by waging endless wars in Iraq or Afghanistan that we have weaponry that we leave behind.

00:38:08.000 I think adding NATO members has been a crucial and vital part of just like the EU needed to add new members to keep its bureaucracy running, or the USCIS immigration in our country needs to increase immigration because they increased fees, and now it's completely run through paperwork fees.

00:38:22.000 A lot of the bureaucracy and the back end are run by expansionism, and sometimes we need to realize it's not...

00:38:29.000 It's not always so maniacal and malevolent and evil.

00:38:31.000 Sometimes it's about money.

00:38:32.000 I want to chime in here.

00:38:34.000 It's my sense that the future of the military-industrial complex is going to be less, and I think the Ukraine war kind of exemplifies this.

00:38:43.000 It's going to be less about tanks and bombs and stuff and more about intel.

00:38:49.000 And I think that in the next 30 years, Lockheed Martin's not going to be as important as Google is.

00:38:57.000 I think that the tech companies and the AI companies that you see, I think NVIDIA is going to be more important than the military.

00:39:05.000 So US-based companies?

00:39:07.000 Well, I mean, I would like to see them be US-based companies, but yes, I do think that tech companies are going to actually be where the frontier of the military-industrial complex because as AI becomes more and more important and as robotics becomes more and more important...

00:39:24.000 You're going to see less reliance on manned systems.

00:39:29.000 You're going to see less reliance on, you know...

00:39:34.000 Conventional forces.

00:39:35.000 But that seems to be the way in which the military-industrial complex has captured at least the former anti-war left who talk about, when you talk about where the spending is going, they try to point out that the weapons are being made here in America, so American wages are being paid for it.

00:39:50.000 Well, which we know is really just a Trojan horse to allow you to make more arms and sell more weapons overseas.

00:39:56.000 Elijah, I just wanted to follow up, because I think big picture where we disagree is that I believe in American values and American hegemony.

00:40:03.000 I think it's important to stand for those values and support our allies worldwide and not cede any room to the Chinese in the Pacific or the Persians in the Middle East or the Russians' irredentist dreams in Eastern Europe.

00:40:16.000 So I think that's the bigger picture idea of where we disagree because if we do pull back in NATO, if we do pull back...

00:40:24.000 From the Pacific.

00:40:25.000 If we don't want to continue supporting our allies in the Middle East, we are only ceding ground to our enemies who have the opposite values that we do here in America.

00:40:34.000 I will, I do, I do think, I do agree that...

00:40:38.000 The United States is in a position where the more the U.S. pulls back, the more it will create a vacuum, and the more that will be filled by other countries.

00:40:49.000 We were talking earlier, whereas I don't want the U.S. to go and start any kind of other wars or anything like that, but if the U.S. does shrink its role in the world, that's going to have a corresponding effect on...

00:41:05.000 The dollar, and it's going to have a corresponding effect on the influence that the United States has.

00:41:09.000 And I don't think the American people really want that.

00:41:12.000 I think, again, Joe Sixpack or whatever you want to say, the average person that isn't politically dialed in, they don't want to see a significant change in their life.

00:41:21.000 And I think that...

00:41:22.000 That the average person is completely unprepared for the kind of changes that they would see if the U.S. did become less of the global hegemon.

00:41:32.000 So now whether or not you think the U.S. is a force for good or force for bad is actually neither here nor there.

00:41:39.000 It's just that when the U.S. stops being the global hegemon, that makes a massive change in the whole world.

00:41:45.000 Hold on.

00:41:46.000 It makes a massive change in the whole world.

00:41:48.000 And I don't think that the average person has really thought through the ramifications.

00:41:54.000 The other problem is that when they see the way that disasters happen in America and there's no help for American citizens, they're not thinking five steps ahead.

00:42:03.000 They're saying, why are you spending trillions of dollars, billions of dollars overseas when you don't even have the money to help us here?

00:42:10.000 And they're not thinking about all of those steps and what it means to be a global power.

00:42:14.000 And that actually speaks to my exact point.

00:42:17.000 The average American doesn't even understand.

00:42:19.000 How things are funded.

00:42:20.000 People think, I pay taxes to pay for things.

00:42:23.000 But this is everywhere, though.

00:42:25.000 Yeah, but people think, I pay taxes so that way the government has money to pay for things.

00:42:31.000 And that's not how it works anymore.

00:42:32.000 When the government wants to fund something, the government wants to make bombs, the government wants to fund a program, whatever, they print the money.

00:42:39.000 They use taxation, and they use interest rates to control the dollar supply, the amount of dollars that are out there.

00:42:47.000 But if they want to do something, they don't need to.

00:42:51.000 I mean, it's still bankrupting your kids.

00:42:57.000 It's still putting your kids' future in danger because they're also going to be taxed at an endless rate because we're never going to get out of debt.

00:43:03.000 Foreign aid is not what's bankrupting America.

00:43:06.000 By the way, Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security is what's bankrupting America.

00:43:10.000 I love why we always love to point the finger and we say, oh, foreign aid, and that's why we can't help the homeless people, and that's why people are starving in the middle of God knows where.

00:43:17.000 You're 100% right.

00:43:18.000 It's mandatory spending, the discretionary spending, things like...

00:43:22.000 Things like the military and whatnot.

00:43:24.000 Pennies on the dollar.

00:43:25.000 Those things are not important.

00:43:26.000 If you actually are worried about the United States debt and the value of the dollar and stuff, you have to address mandatory spending.

00:43:32.000 You have to address Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

00:43:36.000 Those are the things that are actually driving the debt.

00:43:38.000 Everything else is tertiary.

00:43:39.000 So that does speak to what we're talking about here.

00:43:41.000 The foreign aid stuff, the conversation that we're having is great.

00:43:44.000 great.

00:43:44.000 I love the idea of getting rid of foreign aid, but it does not matter about the debt.

00:43:50.000 There's no one, no one's going to be like, oh, the debt's going to explode because we give so much money to Israel.

00:43:55.000 We give Israel pennies compared to what we, what really drives our... 0.97

00:43:58.000 Nothing will change if we give, if we stop giving foreign aid Nothing will change for you domestically.

00:44:04.000 Nothing at all.

00:44:05.000 Here's where foreign aid is different.

00:44:06.000 It's from the outside looking in.

00:44:07.000 I've lived all over and worked all over the world, right?

00:44:09.000 From South Korea to China to Australia.

00:44:11.000 I've been around there.

00:44:12.000 And one thing that I've noticed working and living out of another Western country, I don't live there anymore or work there.

00:44:18.000 Is that in Australia, you know, it's a superpower.

00:44:20.000 Right?

00:44:21.000 No.

00:44:21.000 And it is a superpower.

00:44:24.000 It's a colony of ours.

00:44:25.000 It is.

00:44:25.000 It's a colony of ours.

00:44:27.000 If we didn't help protect them, China would take them.

00:44:28.000 All right.

00:44:29.000 Okay.

00:44:30.000 I'm glad that you are able.

00:44:31.000 I'm glad you're smarter than the entire Five Eyes. 0.99

00:44:33.000 It's early.

00:44:34.000 Your Australian friends are still asleep.

00:44:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:35.000 I'm sorry that you don't understand the Five Eyes and the intelligence and the fact of what happens in the world there.

00:44:41.000 Don't say Five Eyes.

00:44:42.000 It literally is a superpower because the world is not really the world.

00:44:47.000 It's broken up into regions.

00:44:48.000 And in that region, basically, But the point of the matter is...

00:45:02.000 Is that Australia, like you said, people don't think about where their money goes.

00:45:06.000 Over there, everybody's like, you know, we have healthcare and we have this and we have that.

00:45:10.000 And you're like, yeah, well, it's because you have the luxury of the United States is propping up your failed military, which their military is so failed, by the way, that they're planning on letting non-citizens join their military ranks. 0.98

00:45:20.000 It's actually gotten that bad.

00:45:22.000 And it's so bad that right now, one of the most contradictory or controversial ideas in the country, the U.S. is saying, hey, I think this actually started, it might have started under Trump.

00:45:32.000 You need to actually buy your own nuclear subs to deter China. 0.96

00:45:36.000 We're not going to fund and patrol your waters anymore.

00:45:38.000 So they're going to be $34 billion.

00:45:40.000 And everyone in Australia was freaking out, right?

00:45:42.000 Because they're used to their money not going towards buying nuclear subs.

00:45:46.000 I'm laughing as an American there because I'm like, you're mad that you're spending $34 billion on subs?

00:45:50.000 Wait till you find out what we spend on our subs every year.

00:45:53.000 You guys keep saying, oh, we get healthcare.

00:45:54.000 But our healthcare system is falling apart.

00:45:56.000 I'm like, welcome to being an American that you make fun of so much and say, well, you guys buy bombs and we have healthcare.

00:46:01.000 Well, eventually you're going to need to buy your own bombs.

00:46:03.000 And it's either now or never because we cannot patrol the whole world.

00:46:06.000 We cannot control.

00:46:07.000 If you really want to be a superpower and you want to be an ally, like how Israel's an ally, you've got to give back. 0.72

00:46:12.000 It's not just against Israel.

00:46:13.000 It's like, you've got to give back because even though we're not giving $3 billion in aid, let's say, to Australia, the amount of military support that we give to petroleum protecting their northern border is probably way more than what we give Israel.

00:46:24.000 Where are they buying these submarines from?

00:46:25.000 From the United States.

00:46:26.000 And is the military-industrial complex here a good thing or a bad thing? 0.99

00:46:30.000 Oh, that's a dumb question.

00:46:31.000 Is it a good thing that they're getting the submarines or not? 0.97

00:46:33.000 That they have the ability to buy those nuclear submarines?

00:46:35.000 Is it good that they have the ability?

00:46:37.000 Sure.

00:46:38.000 It's a good thing.

00:46:39.000 Okay.

00:46:39.000 Yeah, sure.

00:46:40.000 I wish that they had the ability to create their own if they really are considered an ally.

00:46:44.000 They want to have a qualitative military edge over other countries, then you have to buy from the best.

00:46:48.000 They've let their edge fall like many Western countries.

00:46:50.000 They wouldn't be able to compete otherwise.

00:46:52.000 Not every country can have a cutting edge.

00:46:53.000 Everyone's been relying on the U.S. for decades that people have not been developing their own weaponry.

00:46:57.000 We have the best arms industry, and it's a good thing that our allies continue to buy from us, just like you were talking about earlier, how we have five eyes.

00:47:05.000 I think it's an important thing that we continue.

00:47:08.000 We need to collaborate with our allies abroad to help buy these submarines.

00:47:13.000 Okay, yeah.

00:47:14.000 All I was trying to say is the reason why that's – I'm saying what's happening in the world today with foreign aid since we're talking about this.

00:47:19.000 It's easy to look at foreign aid as just the dollars that we send in numbers on a screen we're transferring.

00:47:24.000 But how many years have we been protecting New Zealand and Australia?

00:47:28.000 It's about time that we do cut back on our foreign aid of these countries and say, look, you guys make trillions of dollars in GDP. You can build some damn submarines. 0.99

00:47:35.000 I mean, well, I don't know that I'm – I'm particularly concerned with the shipworks of New Zealand and Australia. 0.99

00:47:42.000 I don't have a problem.

00:47:43.000 I am because we need to control that for trade.

00:47:45.000 The U.S. has interest in controlling Pacific.

00:47:47.000 Well, the United States is the country that patrols the seas.

00:47:51.000 The United States makes all the oceans safe for international trade.

00:47:58.000 It's not a situation that we share.

00:48:02.000 share I don't have the numbers but all you got to do is Google like the United States Navy compared to every other Navy in the world every other Navy is is would be destroyed in a moment if the United States wanted to we have something like a dozen nuclear submarines I mean don't that no other country truly has Maybe Japan has one or two.

00:48:20.000 The amount of power that the United States has when it comes to the Navy is mind-boggling.

00:48:28.000 And the United States does make trade safe.

00:48:32.000 And I think that...

00:48:33.000 As much as the United States is going to be, you know, we're going to be imperfect and there's going to be corruption and stuff, I'd rather the United States be the country that's making sure that the seas are open for trade than China or than Russia, because I just don't trust that China or Russia would deal even close to as fairly as the United States.

00:48:51.000 I think you're correct on that.

00:48:52.000 I don't think the United States deals fairly.

00:48:53.000 I'm sure that there are countries that feel like they're getting, you know, the crap end of the stick and stuff like that when they're dealing with the U.S. I'm sure that's the case. 0.51

00:49:00.000 But at the end of the day, I think the United States is...

00:49:07.000 I don't think that it's a bad thing that, you know, honestly, the foreign aid, when it comes to military aid and stuff like that, it's the U.S. having Americans build military weaponry for other countries.

00:49:22.000 So essentially, the U.S. is just paying.

00:49:25.000 Stimulus to American arms companies.

00:49:28.000 And again, now you can be against these kind of things and stuff that's fine, but it's not the same thing as handing out bags of cash.

00:49:34.000 We're not sending pallets of cash to Australia and New Zealand like we did.

00:49:40.000 We just put our largest CIA operative headquarters base right in Australia, which is essentially a U.S. controlled extension of our dominance.

00:49:49.000 Although all this being said and done, I just thought it would be a time to remind you guys of how much We're all collectively frustrated at this table with the West Virginian local politics of sole proprietorship and business.

00:50:02.000 I've been here for a day, and I've got to get the hell out of here.

00:50:07.000 Let's go on to this story. 0.90

00:50:13.000 Target is the latest company to roll back some DEI programs because Donald Trump is a Nazi.

00:50:19.000 Not really that last part I made up.

00:50:22.000 CNN reports New York.

00:50:24.000 Target is joining a wave of U.S. companies pulling back on diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives as right-wing...

00:50:31.000 Right wing, that's a scare word there.

00:50:33.000 Right wing pressure leads companies to alter their commitment to hiring diverse candidates and expanding access. 0.98

00:50:39.000 Everyone knows that that is as much crap as you can jam into one opening... 0.96

00:50:47.000 I mean, sentence is as imaginable. 0.99

00:50:49.000 Well, any profit-seeking entity was looking to do this anyways.

00:50:51.000 This just gave them the excuse to finally be able to do it and put the blame on someone else.

00:50:55.000 And CNN gets to call the orange man bad for doing it.

00:50:58.000 Target said in a statement Friday that it will end its three-year diversity, equity, and inclusion goals.

00:51:03.000 In 2022, the company said that those goals included ensuring equitable access to career advancement and equitable business decisions that increase relevance with diverse guests and support economic inclusivity.

00:51:18.000 I think we all around this table probably agree that these are terrible ideas because you're not hiring for competency.

00:51:30.000 You're hiring based on skin color.

00:51:32.000 And that's just straight up illegal in the United States.

00:51:36.000 I mean, am I talking out of...

00:51:38.000 No, but the problem is now they talk about Trump's rolling back civil rights.

00:51:42.000 Now people think of it in the opposite effect now.

00:51:46.000 Say it again.

00:51:49.000 But again, I think that that person that you're the...

00:52:00.000 The hypothetical person you're talking about is the person that watches maybe 30 minutes to an hour of Jimmy Kimmel a week, and that's where they get their news.

00:52:09.000 Hell yeah.

00:52:09.000 Which is a terrible, terrible development when you have people like Jimmy Kimmel that are the people that are giving the news to Americans.

00:52:18.000 The view.

00:52:19.000 The view is worse.

00:52:20.000 Absolutely worse, but only marginally.

00:52:23.000 There's also a lot of guilt by association in Americans who just they see something like this and they say, yeah, I do come from a privileged background.

00:52:30.000 Now, whether they do or they don't or whether this other guy on the other side of the table is of the same, has the same access as them, doesn't matter to them.

00:52:37.000 So they don't see a problem in stuff like this, especially NIMBY white liberals out in the suburbs. 0.51

00:52:42.000 They're not going to see a problem with programs like this.

00:52:44.000 You think the NIMBYs?

00:52:45.000 The not in my backyards?

00:52:46.000 Yeah, because they're not in that.

00:52:47.000 They're not worrying about jobs at Target. - I don't mean to minimize getting rid of these DEI programs Juan, minimize them.

00:52:54.000 But I will minimize them in a second.

00:52:56.000 It feels like the government, you know, kind of winks and nods and gives directions to these companies for what they want to see.

00:53:02.000 In the past administration, it was that Joe Biden wanted to see them do more DEI stuff.

00:53:06.000 So they did the window dressing for the DEI stuff.

00:53:08.000 Now they don't want to be targeted or try to get in the good graces of the Trump administration.

00:53:11.000 So you see not only these guys, but some of the tech bros like Jeff Bezos at Amazon.

00:53:15.000 Well, I guess he's not at Amazon anymore.

00:53:17.000 Do the same thing where they're trying to get rid of these DEI initiatives and get in the good graces of the conservative government.

00:53:25.000 It's virtue signaling.

00:53:26.000 So you think that they were looking to get rid of these?

00:53:28.000 Programs anyways.

00:53:30.000 And that the getting rid of them is actually a way for them to get into the good graces of...

00:53:34.000 It's where they were already making cuts.

00:53:35.000 So, like, if you actually go into...

00:53:36.000 It's really funny.

00:53:37.000 If you go into a lot of these companies and you look at the demographics, they haven't become more diverse.

00:53:41.000 You know, when you look at upper-level management in tech companies, you can check this out for most of the large ones.

00:53:46.000 It's still upwards of, like, 90% East Asian.

00:53:49.000 We're not even talking about South Indian.

00:53:51.000 Like, East Asian and predominantly white men who are running, like, core engineering, core development, especially the executive department level.

00:53:58.000 And then it'll look and it'll be like, well, 50% of the employees are basically brown, gay, or a combination of some sort of melanin nation. 0.80

00:54:08.000 And the thing is, is that what happens is, is that these jobs are actually...

00:54:14.000 don't want these jobs at their companies they're bloat and a lot of this stuff isn't needed you ever watch the videos of these like yes that's exactly like asian girls going like and i get a little soda at my office and i type up a couple codes oh those are the yeah your company knows your job is worthless too and when the cuts came recently don't take it aren't there they do the cuts for them first like you know wow everyone i love how people will be like we're winning woke microsoft cut 20 000 jobs you're like bro they've been waiting for like i agree with elon they've been waiting to cut these 20 000 jobs because once they had the financial you know

00:54:43.000 excuse to tell the government because at a certain level of a corporate you know size you have to have the government does check in on your diversity quotas it's unfortunate but they do you have to have evidence for why you made the cuts and i just don't believe dei is good for business i believe it's annoying to people and i do not think that the average consumer really wants to buy tucking underwear at target or see gay flags while they're buying their coffee like i just i don't even i don't know anyone who cares outside of like maybe portland this was the same thing that happened in hollywood after the strikes and they immediately

00:55:11.000 They started cutting jobs like that and sending work over to Canada, work over to India.

00:55:16.000 The first thing that they do is like, look, we're like telling you, look, the strike is going to hurt you.

00:55:20.000 You're going to get what you want on paper.

00:55:22.000 And the first thing they're going to do is send your work elsewhere.

00:55:24.000 And that's exactly what happened.

00:55:25.000 They were just looking for an excuse.

00:55:27.000 Yeah, it's like, I want to go to the store without experiencing Ian's graphene dream.

00:55:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:55:30.000 Like, I'm just saying.

00:55:32.000 I mean, it's the laptop jobs.

00:55:34.000 Same thing people have been talking about for years.

00:55:36.000 They're basically, the people who go to do that, the ones who work for Google, are just influencers that are used to make propaganda videos to make, look how good it is to work at Google.

00:55:45.000 But everybody knows, like when Elon bought Twitter and he cut like 80% of the workforce and the website still worked.

00:55:51.000 And you're referring to those TikToks that you saw.

00:55:53.000 Yeah, that's the whole point.

00:55:54.000 I'm going to work and they'd essentially do like 10 minutes of work in the whole video and they'd have three different meals. 0.82

00:56:03.000 Adult daycare.

00:56:04.000 Can I ask you a question, Phil?

00:56:05.000 I genuinely want to know this.

00:56:07.000 I joked on the earlier show today, you said you're an anti-communist.

00:56:09.000 I was like, oh, are you a fascist?

00:56:10.000 I was just messing with you. 0.78

00:56:11.000 I know you're not. 0.91

00:56:12.000 Because fascists are anti-communist.

00:56:14.000 And I'm not a fascist either.

00:56:15.000 But I do want to know a good question.

00:56:18.000 I know fascism is becoming very popular, particularly among a certain amount of the right wing.

00:56:21.000 And no one can deny that, right?

00:56:24.000 Let me define it.

00:56:26.000 666-ANON might be in the chat tonight.

00:56:28.000 Tell me to deport Elon and I will do it later.

00:56:30.000 Don't worry, Shlomo.

00:56:32.000 Don't worry, I got the Mossads back. 0.75

00:56:33.000 Or the CIA, who knows?

00:56:35.000 I found Tim's matzah in the green room, so I know.

00:56:37.000 His Mossad agent is here somewhere.

00:56:40.000 He's right across from you.

00:56:41.000 Yeah, I'm like...

00:56:42.000 He's somewhere.

00:56:44.000 No, but okay, so look.

00:56:46.000 I understand.

00:56:46.000 And honestly...

00:56:48.000 I understand it, right?

00:56:49.000 There was a question.

00:56:51.000 I'm asking you.

00:56:52.000 I understand this idea of fascism, but people don't understand this alignment of sort of the private and the public sector.

00:56:58.000 The reason why I understand this is because what we kind of are seeing right now is that the private sector does take direction from the public sector.

00:57:06.000 And if Trump is saying we're going to be a certain way, then the private sector lines up.

00:57:11.000 And right now we like us, or a lot of us in this room at least, like where Trump is taking things.

00:57:15.000 So we like where the private sector is going.

00:57:16.000 When Biden's in, We don't like where it's going, and so we don't like the private sector.

00:57:21.000 How much should we be fighting for government strength like this or government control?

00:57:26.000 Because we do have a direct alignment of our private and public.

00:57:30.000 Where do we set the limit, and why is fascism then wrong?

00:57:34.000 You're anti-communism.

00:57:35.000 Why is that wrong?

00:57:35.000 So the idea that the government aligns with private industry, that's undeniable.

00:57:43.000 It would be my preference that we have a government that's small enough where they really don't have any influence, federally at the very least.

00:57:52.000 If there are states that want to say, okay, you're going to operate in our state, these are the rules that you have to have to operate in our state.

00:57:59.000 And then these companies can decide, I don't want to.

00:58:03.000 And you saw that with Tesla leaving California, with Oracle leaving California.

00:58:08.000 I think Joe Rogan, even though he's not a gigantic company, he left California.

00:58:12.000 See people deciding, I don't like dealing with these, the regulations or whatever.

00:58:18.000 I've moved multiple times because I didn't like what was going on in my state.

00:58:21.000 I grew up in Massachusetts.

00:58:22.000 I didn't like it.

00:58:23.000 I decided to move to New Hampshire.

00:58:24.000 I have a place there.

00:58:25.000 And so I think that...

00:58:28.000 When you can make your federal government, when you can actually have your federal government reined in and make it actually abide by the rules laid out in the Constitution, I don't think that the United States qualifies as fascist that way.

00:58:42.000 Especially if we could have some kind of miracle and have an amendment that clarifies the Necessary and Proper Clause and clarifies the Commerce Clause.

00:58:55.000 The government wasn't using that to basically bully every single industry that it just...

00:59:00.000 Well, not just the industry, but people as well.

00:59:02.000 So I don't think the United States is intended to be fascist.

00:59:06.000 I think the...

00:59:07.000 Are we kind of, though, a little bit like a fascist light?

00:59:10.000 It's because...

00:59:11.000 Well, I mean, I plan...

00:59:12.000 Listen, listen.

00:59:12.000 Are we there?

00:59:13.000 In the first half of the 20th century...

00:59:17.000 That was all the rage, right?

00:59:19.000 Before the Nazis, before the horrors of what the Nazis did became public knowledge, before everybody really knew.

00:59:25.000 You know, Woodrow Wilson and the League of Nations and all of this stuff that was going on from World War I and after World War I, this was all the rage and it was normal for people to think, well, the government should do this and the government should do that and etc.

00:59:37.000 etc.

00:59:37.000 That's when you get your FDRs and they have all of these policies and all these things that the government has built up.

00:59:44.000 Personally, I'm the guy that wants to see the entire progressive agenda stripped away.

00:59:49.000 And I go back to the way that the government was in...

00:59:53.000 You know, 1900, you know, because I don't want to see a big government.

00:59:57.000 I want the smallest federal government that we can have.

01:00:00.000 The states are empowered fully to do all sorts of things, and it's even in the Bill of Rights.

01:00:06.000 The Tenth Amendment says, look, if it's not listed here, then the states have the power.

01:00:10.000 The Constitution is very clear.

01:00:12.000 It is just...

01:00:13.000 You want to go back to our government when we were, like, the most racist and the most, like, hegemonic?

01:00:17.000 It's like, everyone's always like, I want our libertarians, but I want our government to get back to the point when we were all racist.

01:00:21.000 Stop putting words in my mouth.

01:00:23.000 I'm joking.

01:00:24.000 That's why I'm clarifying to stop putting words in my mouth.

01:00:27.000 But I'm saying, I know what you mean.

01:00:28.000 You're talking about that without the other stuff.

01:00:30.000 But there is a lot of jokes about that.

01:00:31.000 It's like, maybe we've thrown the baby out with the bathwater, right?

01:00:35.000 Maybe in the terms of trying to progress past some faux pas or some issues in our society, we've sort of thrown out and gone too far.

01:00:43.000 The things that people think of when it comes to the progress when it comes to race stuff, right?

01:00:50.000 So that's all in the 60s.

01:00:52.000 All the stuff that really made the United States go from being a small government country to a big government country, that all happened long before the 60s, long before the civil rights era.

01:01:02.000 Great Depression, a lot of that stuff.

01:01:03.000 It was all stuff that actually did happen because of the Great Depression.

01:01:06.000 And a lot of the things that we have now, they're vestigials of what was put in place to deal with what people would call excessive capitalism or the way that capitalism behaves without regulations.

01:01:17.000 I think that's totally wrong, especially nowadays when you have the ability to communicate as fast as possible.

01:01:23.000 I think that the reins that you put onto private companies, I think those are completely unnecessary and they're antiquated and they don't need to be, you know, they could be revisited and taken away without any significant problem.

01:01:37.000 If there was significant problem, word would get around so fast that companies wouldn't be, I mean, you're not, if you got rid of child labor laws, right, you're not going to have, like, kids in coal mines again.

01:01:49.000 That's just not going to happen.

01:01:50.000 Period.

01:01:51.000 It's not going to happen.

01:01:53.000 You're not going to have kids.

01:01:54.000 If you have child labor, it's called Fortnite and subscription gaming services on their iPad.

01:01:58.000 They sit there and just running for the company.

01:02:00.000 Rolling in Girl Scout.

01:02:02.000 So my opinion is I think that the federal government should be as small as possible.

01:02:07.000 I don't think that we need a large government that works hand-in-hand with companies.

01:02:11.000 Can I ask you how?

01:02:12.000 I only bring a juxtaposition here.

01:02:15.000 I'm not trying to actually put words in your mouth.

01:02:17.000 You know me. 0.63

01:02:17.000 I just troll and toy a little bit. 0.63

01:02:21.000 We are a big government where a lot of people feel like we're either... 0.80

01:02:25.000 We're going to be communist or we're going to be fascist.

01:02:28.000 And I think a lot of the fascists are more like Christian nationalists.

01:02:30.000 And I like your idea better.

01:02:34.000 So I do see everybody's ideas.

01:02:36.000 I'm standing on the outside.

01:02:37.000 I'm actually a dad.

01:02:38.000 So I have two kids people don't know.

01:02:40.000 And I think when you have kids, it humbles the hell out of you because you have to think about how my decisions are going to affect their life, right?

01:02:45.000 I know boomers are currently toasting their champagne in their jacuzzi that they bought on Afterpay and kicked their kids out at 18 enjoying their life. 0.97

01:02:52.000 But some of us want our kids to be successful.

01:02:54.000 Successful.

01:02:55.000 No, but I mean, I look at my kids, I want them to be successful, and I'm thinking, okay, you know, am I scoring points with a Christian Crusader 1488 on Twitter?

01:03:04.000 That's not what I'm trying to do.

01:03:06.000 Am I trying to get a job at the Daily Wire?

01:03:08.000 Ben, I'll apologize.

01:03:09.000 I'll take it.

01:03:09.000 No, I didn't know.

01:03:10.000 I'm not.

01:03:11.000 I already put on a beanie.

01:03:12.000 I'm ready.

01:03:12.000 Come on, Ben.

01:03:13.000 No, but I'm not.

01:03:15.000 I'm just trying to be me with my family and figure out what's good for the country like we all are.

01:03:19.000 We're clearly divided.

01:03:20.000 We all have all these utopian ideas, but the truth is both of these sides that are pushing fascists and communists, to me, they got one thing right. 0.91

01:03:26.000 We do a pretty damn freaking big government.

01:03:29.000 That government is in control of the means of production and a lot of ways in influencing it.

01:03:33.000 Now, where does that go?

01:03:35.000 You want to nuke it and shrink it, but is that a reality?

01:03:38.000 Is there any way to nuke it without a full self-implosion?

01:03:42.000 I don't know.

01:03:42.000 I'm not a historian, but I've looked at empires, looked at the Roman Empire.

01:03:45.000 Eventually, it puttered out.

01:03:46.000 It broke into other empires, but it's like...

01:03:49.000 Are we being utopian, Phil?

01:03:50.000 Are we just being boomers, out-of-touch boomer utopian people where we're just like, I just want a small government while these young Gen Zs are all going communist? 0.99

01:03:56.000 They're either going full communist or full fascist.

01:03:58.000 What do they see that we don't see?

01:04:00.000 And why don't they believe we can shrink the government?

01:04:01.000 What I think they see is they see the shortcomings of the liberal economic order, right?

01:04:09.000 But the thing that they don't understand is that the shortcomings of the liberal economic order are actually...

01:04:17.000 Not as big of a deal when they're put into the context of what came before, right?

01:04:23.000 So nowadays you've got all kinds of problems with like we talk about the cost of living, the value of the dollars gone down, the way that the boomers behaved about, you know, essentially all of their 401ks and kids can't buy homes, kids can't afford all kinds of things.

01:04:40.000 And that's all real.

01:04:41.000 And that's the reality that they're living in.

01:04:44.000 But they don't...

01:04:46.000 They don't have an experience with the things that were before the boomers.

01:04:50.000 They don't have the experience with the Great Depression.

01:04:52.000 They don't have the experience without having the ability to just have food delivered on their apps or all kinds of possible avenues to make revenue that the internet provides and stuff like that.

01:05:07.000 Whereas I'm not saying that they're wrong and I'm not saying that their struggles aren't real.

01:05:10.000 I'm just saying that they are products of a Time and a place, right?

01:05:17.000 And you can't get outside of that context without experience.

01:05:21.000 You can't just be like, if you're 19, 20, 21, 22, and you're in the United States, that's all you've ever known.

01:05:29.000 And you're not a bad person because that's all you've ever known.

01:05:33.000 You're not wrong.

01:05:34.000 Kids, for the most part, support these policies.

01:05:37.000 The way these policies are framed is they're saying that Trump didn't roll back DEI. He rolled back protections for minority and marginalized groups.

01:05:47.000 So by that nature, the whole point is that they're saying equal opportunity under the law, which is what it actually was before, which was beneficial to everyone, is now a bad thing.

01:05:57.000 And they want to see the government at least...

01:06:00.000 A lot of the young kids, the liberal kids, they like the idea that the federal government was willing to impose that because they feel that's a good thing.

01:06:07.000 And that is a way towards communism, like you said.

01:06:10.000 Elijah, I wanted to follow up on what you were talking about a couple of minutes ago with fascism or fascism light that we're seeing in our upcoming generations.

01:06:17.000 I want to ask, what do you think of the...

01:06:19.000 I don't even necessarily mean this in a derogatory way.

01:06:22.000 Do you believe the current Trump administration is fascistic?

01:06:25.000 No, I would say that the United States...

01:06:27.000 Imperial system like it wouldn't matter who came into power the overall totality of the size of our government and our power across the world is so big that it's Corporate interests and government just cannot be I've been unlinked.

01:06:40.000 I think this is a misreading of fascism.

01:06:42.000 I don't think I didn't say we are.

01:06:44.000 I said, people say that we only have two directions to go.

01:06:47.000 Like, either we make it fascist to get control of it, or we make it communist, but we're kind of like free-floating, and it's a fight for who's going to control.

01:06:53.000 I think that's an argument that a communist or fascist would say, that there's no other way that you have to go, that you could either be a communist or you're a fascist.

01:06:59.000 It's the split in the road.

01:07:00.000 But I don't really believe that. 0.98

01:07:01.000 These kids are fascists.

01:07:02.000 No, no, no.

01:07:03.000 I think that extremist voices tend to be the loudest, but aren't the majority at all.

01:07:07.000 And, you know, these people could be an M online as much as they can.

01:07:17.000 I don't think we're as statist as you are implying.

01:07:24.000 I don't think Trump's nearly as militaristic as you need to be for a fascist.

01:07:27.000 He's not going to be a dictator.

01:07:28.000 He's not staying in power.

01:07:29.000 You have to be a dictator to have a fascistic system.

01:07:31.000 I don't even think he has consolidated power.

01:07:33.000 So I think it's like a leftist reading almost of what fascism is.

01:07:41.000 Stomp on what you're saying, but the questions that...

01:07:44.000 Elijah was asking. 0.97

01:07:45.000 I didn't get the vibe that he was saying that Trump was going to be a fascist dictator.

01:07:49.000 I do feel like it was coming from a place of like, look, this is the way young people kind of view things.

01:07:54.000 And he was looking for someone's opinion.

01:07:56.000 I'm just worried about some of this stuff.

01:08:00.000 Because I'm worried that we're becoming, like around this table, just as out of touch when we make boomer memes.

01:08:05.000 And it's like, you know, they're like, hey, you want to get a job?

01:08:08.000 Just shake his hand firmly and then get a job.

01:08:11.000 Even when they're like, go on LinkedIn.

01:08:12.000 You're like, you just got to know.

01:08:13.000 You got to know someone now.

01:08:14.000 That's all it is.

01:08:15.000 You got to know someone and you got to be in the right place.

01:08:17.000 Tell my kid, you want to work in politics?

01:08:18.000 Go to political conferences.

01:08:20.000 That's what you got to do.

01:08:21.000 Honestly, that's incredibly good advice, though, because whether you're talking about now or you're talking about 50 years ago or 100 years ago, I don't know how many people out there have read Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People. 0.98

01:08:36.000 This is a book that salesmen and people used to read all the time, and it's full of the most obvious Shit, right? 0.97

01:08:43.000 It really is. 0.99

01:08:44.000 But the point that it gets across is the most important...

01:08:48.000 Part of getting a good job is who you know.

01:08:52.000 So if you're sitting at home and you're on your computer all the time and you don't actually interact with anybody except from an anonymous account on Twitter, that doesn't help any.

01:09:03.000 If you go on X and you look at people that tend to be on X a lot, one of the things that people say is, meet your mutuals.

01:09:10.000 Go and try to meet your mutuals.

01:09:12.000 Because when you actually make contact with other people...

01:09:17.000 Then you are going to be in a better position to get Opportunities.

01:09:22.000 And there's also a phrase that you hear all the time, like 90% of the problem or 90% of what you need to do is just show up.

01:09:30.000 If you go out and you get out into the world physically and you go do things with people and you're around people, opportunities are far more likely to come up, to arise, than if you spend time at home.

01:09:43.000 And again, this is not me saying that it's not hard for Gen Z or Gen...

01:09:48.000 Gen Alpha or whatever.

01:09:49.000 I'm not poo-pooing any of the struggles, they say.

01:09:51.000 But the culture today and the things that, the incentives, the way that society is now, kids are not incentivized to go out into the world and do things with real people.

01:10:02.000 And the more you get out and interact with real people doing real-world things, the more opportunities are going to present themselves.

01:10:10.000 And even if that means that you go and you meet your ex...

01:10:13.000 Mutuals, go meet the people that you hang out with on Discord if you can.

01:10:17.000 Go and do, you know...

01:10:19.000 Never meet your heroes, never meet your Discord, mom.

01:10:21.000 No, it's like, meet your online friends.

01:10:23.000 It's such a weird thing to hear because it's never something I went through.

01:10:26.000 It's never like, oh, let me meet my buddies from Twitter or my boy on the Discord server.

01:10:30.000 It was just such a foreign, weird thing for me. 0.61

01:10:32.000 Yes, I understand, but like, I mean, did you get your job here by sending an email or did you know someone?

01:10:37.000 I knew somebody.

01:10:38.000 You got your job from sending an email?

01:10:40.000 Okay, well, you knew someone.

01:10:41.000 Well, I was just...

01:10:42.000 I sent an email and said, hey, I know someone there.

01:10:44.000 I did send an email and it went unanswered.

01:10:46.000 I sent multiple emails.

01:10:49.000 Listen, the reason that I got a record deal is because I knew someone, right?

01:10:54.000 I'm in a band that...

01:10:55.000 And are talented and handsome.

01:10:56.000 Thank you very much.

01:10:57.000 No, and honestly, honestly, when it comes to that, like our first record was garbage and no one cared.

01:11:03.000 I literally learned how to write songs well because I called up Adam D. from Killswitch Engage and said, dude, I... I can write riffs all day.

01:11:12.000 I can't put a song together.

01:11:14.000 Will you produce our next record?

01:11:15.000 He said, yes.

01:11:16.000 I went there.

01:11:17.000 We put out a record called This Dark and Heart.

01:11:19.000 And then I said, okay, this one's doing okay.

01:11:21.000 This seems to be helping my buddy Scott Lee, who put on the New England Metal and Hardcore Fest for almost 20 years.

01:11:27.000 He was a great friend of mine.

01:11:29.000 We got to play those shows because I was good friends with Scott.

01:11:32.000 Then we went back into the studio with Adam D and we did The Fall of Ideals.

01:11:36.000 When The Fall of Ideals came out, that's what really opened it up for us.

01:11:39.000 But that was because I knew people.

01:11:40.000 And I appreciate that, you know, I appreciate anyone that loves the music that All That Remains has made, but I showed up.

01:11:47.000 I was at shows every weekend, whether my band was playing or not.

01:11:51.000 There's something that you hear all the time when you're in the scene.

01:11:53.000 Support the scene.

01:11:54.000 Go to shows.

01:11:55.000 If there's local bands playing, go watch the local bands.

01:11:58.000 Part of that is showing up.

01:12:00.000 So as much as, again, I don't want to sound like I'm knocking kids today, because it's a totally different world and I'm not a kid, but... 0.99

01:12:07.000 Grown ass men. 1.00

01:12:08.000 I hate them. 1.00

01:12:10.000 We think our kids are like, you meet them and they're like, oh, you're 21? 0.96

01:12:13.000 You're a kid.

01:12:14.000 Compared to me. 0.57

01:12:15.000 I should have my cane.

01:12:16.000 This guy's a father of two children.

01:12:17.000 He is.

01:12:19.000 Brad Palumbo that I guess I was born in 1980. He's a youngin' too.

01:12:23.000 And I was like, damn, bro. 0.99

01:12:24.000 That's crazy. 0.99

01:12:25.000 That didn't hurt.

01:12:26.000 Like I said, I want to point out.

01:12:28.000 I want to drive this home.

01:12:30.000 Get out and do things and meet people because the world is about showing up.

01:12:36.000 One of the things that I probably would say out of everything that I've done here is that I've never really taken the time.

01:12:43.000 A lot of very important people come through this company and I just never bothered.

01:12:49.000 Unless it was a day when I was on the show.

01:12:52.000 Love it.

01:12:52.000 Love the job.

01:12:53.000 Love a lot of the people, but didn't take the time to be like, hey, my name's Brett.

01:12:56.000 How's it going?

01:12:57.000 And that's just me.

01:12:58.000 I'm more introverted.

01:12:59.000 That's just the way I am.

01:13:00.000 But it is a shortcoming on my own point because you're losing a lot of opportunities to put faces to names, to interact with people.

01:13:07.000 And I am the person where literally this job, like Tim just sent me a message.

01:13:11.000 So it wasn't knowing.

01:13:13.000 Hey, you up, baby?

01:13:15.000 Slid into my DMs.

01:13:17.000 But that's the point, right?

01:13:18.000 But that's the rare exception of that happening.

01:13:20.000 Most of the time, the best opportunities come because you're like, look, okay, I need a job.

01:13:24.000 And then you have friends who work in that sphere who you can call and say, look, is anybody hiring?

01:13:29.000 Do you know anybody who's looking to put things together?

01:13:31.000 It is not to be understated how important that is.

01:13:33.000 All right, so we're going to go ahead and go on to the next story, and we can dunk on Gavin Newsom a little bit.

01:13:39.000 CNN is reporting Newsom and Trump face off from a distance as Los Angeles fires burn.

01:13:47.000 Donald Trump has been...

01:13:49.000 Giving Newsom the old Donald Trump at 2 in the morning tweeting treatment, and it's been pretty glorious.

01:13:56.000 CNN is reporting advisors to California Governor Gavin Newsom spent the week monitoring new White House advanced staffer social media accounts.

01:14:05.000 See, he's just sending the mean tweets and changing the world, hoping for clues for where President Donald Trump might be headed when he lands in Los Angeles on Friday afternoon to talk about the wildfire damage.

01:14:16.000 That's the state of relations as California and the federal government face one of the most expensive natural disasters ever and perhaps one of the most complex in American history.

01:14:26.000 No one is talking between the Democratic governor's team and the newly inaugurated presidents.

01:14:30.000 Two people on the governor's team told CNN through a spokesman for the governor told CNN on Friday that he will head to the airport to greet Air Force One.

01:14:38.000 Now apparently...

01:14:40.000 He did meet the president.

01:14:42.000 Gavin Newsom did meet the president.

01:14:43.000 And he was received fairly well, if I understand correctly.

01:14:49.000 They shook hands and they talked a little bit.

01:14:53.000 Donald Trump has floated the idea of withholding aid based on, I believe, two conditions.

01:14:59.000 One of them being...

01:15:01.000 Voter ID in California, which it's an odd thing to connect to emergency relief, but I don't hate the idea of having California actually have to do voter ID. And what was the other one?

01:15:17.000 I mean, I'm actually surprised at this one.

01:15:19.000 This is pretty crazy.

01:15:20.000 What?

01:15:20.000 Just like, you know, stipulating, giving out aid during a crisis.

01:15:24.000 Sounds like a California conservative over here.

01:15:26.000 It just seems pretty crazy.

01:15:27.000 I mean, obviously, it's my home.

01:15:28.000 You know, I'm from L.A. So it's like, I mean, things are pretty rough over there right now.

01:15:32.000 I'm going to strongly agree with you.

01:15:33.000 And moreover, it's not only, I think, bad, like, morally for what the government should be doing there.

01:15:38.000 I think it's just really poor politics.

01:15:40.000 People forget that California is one of the biggest states that has the most Republicans in it.

01:15:45.000 And to win the House, you need a lot of...

01:15:46.000 So there was actually one new Republican rep from California, Young Kim, who said playing politics with people's livelihoods is unacceptable and a slap in the face of the Southern California wildfire victims.

01:15:59.000 With a tight majority in the House, many seats were picked up in California, and this is not going to help them out with Republicans trying to stipulate aid.

01:16:07.000 So I think it's a bad move politically because you know they're going to lose some seats in a couple of years here.

01:16:13.000 It can't be like, and I think this is where we need to draw the line.

01:16:16.000 People obviously, I used to play a little more, not intentionally, to my side, just because I hadn't explored the political spectrum so much, right?

01:16:24.000 It's like we're all on the spectrum, but to some extent.

01:16:26.000 And I think looking at it left and right is...

01:16:28.000 I think that's a very, very increasingly rare thing.

01:16:36.000 People just look at, you know, oh, in North Carolina, Republicans suffer?

01:16:39.000 Who cares?

01:16:40.000 I watched a TikTok of a girl saying that. 1.00

01:16:42.000 She's like, I don't know if you other liberals understand that Republicans enjoy that Los Angeles burned down because, you know, we were all enjoyed when North Carolina got destroyed. 0.99

01:16:51.000 And I'm like, no, you sick witch. 0.99

01:16:54.000 Like, no, no, we didn't. 0.99

01:16:55.000 We're not happy now.

01:16:56.000 We weren't happy then.

01:16:57.000 And quite frankly, there are plenty of right-leaning people that probably suffered in the LA fires and vice versa in North Carolina.

01:17:02.000 So do not tell me that, you know, this is a political storm, right?

01:17:06.000 This isn't Q. We're not going into the storm here, okay?

01:17:09.000 But I do think, I understand Trump trying to play hardball with a state and with a governor, and I'm not opposed to some alternative or interesting or unheard of tactics when you're playing hardball like this.

01:17:24.000 However, in terms of withholding...

01:17:27.000 Federal taxpayer dollars, I think if you went back to finding out what the American people would want, I do not believe that the average American taxpayer would want to withhold their money from emergency relief in an area based upon political grandstanding.

01:17:39.000 And I'm very pro-Trump.

01:17:41.000 I do not think an average American taxpayer would agree with that.

01:17:44.000 I think this is owning the libs running amok a bit.

01:17:48.000 Hey, you want some financial aid? 0.97

01:17:50.000 Let them burn down.

01:17:51.000 F you, get voter ID laws, and what was the other stipulation? 0.90

01:17:54.000 I don't remember what the other one was, and I can't find it here.

01:17:57.000 Sorry about that.

01:17:58.000 Owning the libs running amok, I think is what we're doing.

01:18:01.000 By the way, I want to say this too.

01:18:03.000 Pacific Palisades is not like...

01:18:06.000 You know, 7th Street in downtown LA or like near Skid Row.

01:18:11.000 Pacific Palisades is nicer than any city you live in in your red state.

01:18:15.000 Pacific Palisades is like one of the...

01:18:16.000 If you're like, for instance, like wide areas and stuff, this is a very wide area and very, very clean and very rich.

01:18:22.000 And this is like the idealistic area of what an America can look like.

01:18:25.000 Oh, and the second one was to release the water, which actually...

01:18:28.000 So I think that that one actually ties into the issue with the...

01:18:32.000 The fires and stuff, the fact that the water situation in California is difficult to manage or whatever.

01:18:41.000 Save the fish. 0.98

01:18:42.000 Yeah, I mean, essentially, as far as I know, the situation is there is a smelt in a bay up in Northern California, and because of the way that the water is flowing and the way that they have the dam set up, it pushes the freshwater further out into the San Francisco Bay, and so the brackish water doesn't come so far in, making the habitat suitable for the smelt.

01:19:11.000 Allow the water to flow south into Southern California.

01:19:14.000 Then the brackish water would actually move further into the bay.

01:19:19.000 Sounds like you're explaining a woman's mind here. 0.99

01:19:20.000 It's just like, what?

01:19:21.000 I mean, I can do that too.

01:19:22.000 Upstream and downstream and smelt fish.

01:19:24.000 I'm like, it sounds like a mess.

01:19:26.000 Well, I mean, it seems like a mess.

01:19:28.000 But the point that I'm making is this little fish is alleged to be the reason why...

01:19:35.000 Southern California has problems with water.

01:19:38.000 And I think that if that is the case, like if the situation is that, hey, the environmentalists are actually the reason why California doesn't have water to fight fires in Southern California, one of the most densely populated regions in the United States, and clearly, you know needs water badly because of the the winds and because of the other mismanagement of the forest and stuff then I think that it's okay to say look this needs to happen

01:20:05.000 if you're gonna come to the United to the federal government and say we need you to fund it then the federal government should be able to say you need to do these things to fix the problem the voter is the voter ID The issue is if this becomes standard.

01:20:25.000 That, I think, might actually have some merit.

01:20:27.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:20:28.000 It could be like a state and federal government thing.

01:20:30.000 And the only reason I think this is going to be it's going to set a bad precedent.

01:20:33.000 There will be a Democratic president in the future and there will be a natural disaster in a red leaning area when that happens. 0.77

01:20:40.000 And you'd hate for them to have a dumb reason that they say that you guys need to accept or we won't release more aid.

01:20:46.000 So that's maybe I'm thinking too too in depth about it.

01:20:49.000 Own the libs all you want.

01:20:50.000 But there's already strings attached to all sorts of things from the federal government.

01:20:54.000 The reason that you have the drinking age 21 is because the feds say we won't give you any money for your rent.

01:21:00.000 That's different than a natural disaster.

01:21:01.000 No, but it's still strings.

01:21:03.000 There was people saying that what Trump did in this case was an impeachable offense and they were like, obviously you don't understand how these things go together. 0.99

01:21:10.000 He's going to get impeached over something stupid at least one more time in the second term. 0.98

01:21:14.000 I foresee after the midterms. 0.99

01:21:15.000 The Republicans are going to lose the House.

01:21:17.000 I really hope not.

01:21:17.000 Not because I think that they'll actually have any kind of significant real issue.

01:21:24.000 That they're going to bring up, but because of the fact that he did have a clear victory in popular vote and with the electoral college.

01:21:33.000 So I can't imagine any kind of positive outcome of trying to impeach Donald Trump again.

01:21:39.000 No, and also reminding you guys, California is also kind of a unique place because sort of like Chicago, it's run...

01:21:44.000 Like a mob.

01:21:45.000 I was really happy when Tucker touched on this.

01:21:47.000 You know, the fact that Maxine Waters doesn't even have to live in her district.

01:21:50.000 You know, her supporters tried to kill me.

01:21:52.000 You can watch this on YouTube.

01:21:53.000 They tried to kill me to get rescued.

01:21:55.000 I had to jump into a stranger's car in a red light to get away from them while trying to interview them in front of her office.

01:22:00.000 Maxine Waters.

01:22:01.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:22:02.000 Well, Maxine Waters, she's garbage. 1.00

01:22:04.000 Anti-Maxine, who looks like she's gotten too many vaccines. 1.00

01:22:07.000 She used to get a melted wax candle.

01:22:09.000 Yeah, a melted wax scene.

01:22:11.000 No, but she's out there.

01:22:14.000 Now, she lives in a mansion outside of her district.

01:22:16.000 And I think Tucker touched on this where he said directly, he goes, it's quite hilarious because...

01:22:21.000 There's no place that you can really point to with so much corruption where people can be so disliked by the populace, not only retain power, but rise to prominence.

01:22:29.000 Like, when I went and covered Kamala Harris during the original run for the primaries for the Democratic ticket, she couldn't fill half of a high school gymnasium. 1.00

01:22:37.000 I have this on video.

01:22:38.000 She couldn't fill half of a high school gymnasium. 1.00

01:22:40.000 She became the vice president.

01:22:41.000 She ascended, right, from attorney general.

01:22:43.000 She became, you know, whatever, senator.

01:22:44.000 We have the same thing going on with many people, including Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, Schiff, right?

01:22:49.000 I mean, the list goes on.

01:22:51.000 Is something to keep an eye on?

01:22:52.000 And sometimes I do wonder if, at very much, if, and only if, you know, Maxine Waters and some of these people, we should keep an eye and realize that Trump might be playing long-term political strategy to break up a cartel, right?

01:23:04.000 You don't know.

01:23:05.000 I mean, I think that Maxine Waters is among the worst in the... 1.00

01:23:12.000 Would you or would you not?

01:23:13.000 Oh, of course not.

01:23:15.000 Like I said, she looks like a melted wax candle.

01:23:17.000 Oh, hey!

01:23:20.000 So, right now we're looking at the Senate vote for Pete Hegseth, and the Republicans are now at 50, and the yeses are at 50, the noes are at a total of 49, and I think that means that even if...

01:23:41.000 If the last vote is...

01:23:44.000 Yeah, it is.

01:23:45.000 So it's 50-50, and they'll need the tiebreaker, which will be J.D. Vance.

01:23:50.000 So it looks like...

01:23:52.000 Barring anything weird going on, it looks like Pete Hegseth will be the sec def.

01:23:58.000 I think it was Susan Collins of Maine and Murkowski of Alaska who were voting. 0.97

01:24:04.000 I hate these people.

01:24:05.000 The thing is, though, they're in purple districts and whatever, we can avoid the politics. 0.96

01:24:09.000 What I think is interesting, though, is that there are whispers that Mitch McConnell was thinking about, you know, backstabbing Donald Trump.

01:24:17.000 Usually I've, you know...

01:24:19.000 Surprisingly good things to say about Mitch McConnell, but I'm surprised and happily surprised that he decided to go with Pete Hexeth and not ruin this nomination.

01:24:26.000 I do think that this is going to be the situation with multiple people.

01:24:31.000 I wouldn't be surprised if you see this with RFK. I wouldn't be surprised if you see this with Tulsi Gabbard.

01:24:38.000 I wouldn't be surprised if you see this kind of result with cash fatalities.

01:24:41.000 Why do our people flip on us?

01:24:44.000 Because of their constituency.

01:24:48.000 That's like the simple answer.

01:24:50.000 It's too simple.

01:24:51.000 You know who really is in charge.

01:24:53.000 But why is it that they do not, that the Dems typically do not flip on themselves at an extent that...

01:24:58.000 Well, look, they do.

01:24:58.000 You just need to look for those examples.

01:25:00.000 They do all the time.

01:25:01.000 But every time you'll always see these same people.

01:25:03.000 So, for example, Joe Manchin in West Virginia here, when it's an independent, John Fetterman of Pennsylvania.

01:25:09.000 If you ask any Democrats about these guys, they despise them.

01:25:12.000 So it exists, but we just exist in our office.

01:25:14.000 And also, I think that Marco Rubio, like...

01:25:16.000 Got confirmed by, like, 99 to zero.

01:25:19.000 Well, he was a former senator, too, so it helps once you're buddies with all the senators.

01:25:22.000 True, true.

01:25:23.000 But still, it's like...

01:25:24.000 So, I mean, whereas I understand the impulse that you're feeling, because, honestly, Murkowski and Collins really are frustrating, but it's not really a situation where, like, it doesn't happen to the Democrats or whatever.

01:25:36.000 I think of Joe Manchin as, like, the strongest example of that.

01:25:39.000 Yeah, and there are others.

01:25:40.000 What do you think of the argument that...

01:25:42.000 Didn't he flip parties, technically, though?

01:25:42.000 Or didn't he technically, like, not vote along with the Democrats in this stuff?

01:25:45.000 A lot of conservatives will hold up Joe Manchin as somebody who votes on principle because his constituency is purple, so he's somebody who votes in favor of the interests of the people that he represents as opposed to just voting on party lines.

01:26:00.000 Is this what we're doing?

01:26:01.000 Because Trump did wear a purple tie to the inauguration.

01:26:03.000 I think that was about some type of claim to royalty.

01:26:08.000 I don't know.

01:26:09.000 Look, so Pete Hackset, then he's going to be confirmed.

01:26:12.000 Allegedly.

01:26:14.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

01:26:16.000 There's no one else left to vote, and J.D. Vance will cast the last vote in case of a tie.

01:26:21.000 I don't know if he's actually there in Washington to cast the vote.

01:26:27.000 He should be, I think, right?

01:26:28.000 He was at the March for Life today, right?

01:26:30.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:31.000 So he's there.

01:26:32.000 So he's, yeah, J.D. Vance as the tie-breaking vote.

01:26:35.000 So he's probably going in.

01:26:37.000 Going to cast the vote.

01:26:38.000 He's on his way.

01:26:38.000 This is why, by the way, elections matter.

01:26:40.000 And I want to remind you guys, to you holier-than-thou people who told me and a lot of people, that you had problems with Trump and that you weren't going to vote for him because things wouldn't be different.

01:26:49.000 Well, let's start keeping a tally here.

01:26:51.000 Tonight, things would be different.

01:26:53.000 You, like, literally right here when we're talking about this, not saying that Pete Hagseth would have been appointed, but saying, look, you see...

01:26:58.000 Brady Vance is coming to break a tie.

01:26:59.000 Right now, the immediate Trump administration, not only who they are confirming, but also having to actually vote to do the split in the Senate.

01:27:05.000 So let's say that we had a split in the Senate again.

01:27:07.000 Regardless, you know, we have the same outcome right now.

01:27:09.000 And who would be deciding what would be happening right now?

01:27:11.000 It would be who's in power.

01:27:12.000 So they would be getting who they wanted and it would be at their own command.

01:27:15.000 So right now it's like, look, I'm very happy Trump's in office. 0.99

01:27:18.000 And to the morons who have all points today were like, you know, I didn't vote for Trump because he's not pro-life enough. 0.99

01:27:25.000 Look, I don't like IVF. I do not like abortion. 1.00

01:27:33.000 I don't think anyone here loves it.

01:27:35.000 I think people that even support it or believe it should be legal don't like it.

01:27:38.000 I hope you don't like it, even if you support it.

01:27:40.000 But at the same time, Trump releasing and pardoning the people persecuted for standing in front of the abortion clinics.

01:27:46.000 You know, he's always been very pro-life also in the activism at the marches, supporting the activists in their place.

01:27:52.000 The Supreme Court picks overturning Roe v.

01:27:54.000 Wade.

01:27:54.000 I mean, what we're seeing here is an absolute...

01:27:58.000 Overhaul of the direction of the United States government, and it is going towards the right wing.

01:28:02.000 And again, it's never going to be as much, but I just want to remind people, because I know, Phil, you know a lot of people too.

01:28:05.000 A lot of people in my camp, your camp, different camps were just like, they had their dumb reasons why it's like, I'm not voting for it.

01:28:09.000 My favorite one was, I'm not voting for Trump because he's going to let more Indians into office. 1.00

01:28:14.000 Meanwhile, the other option was an Indian woman. 0.99

01:28:16.000 So that was like, that never made sense to me.

01:28:18.000 He's going to let more legal...

01:28:19.000 We don't want Indians in the country. 1.00

01:28:21.000 Okay, here's an Indian woman. 1.00

01:28:22.000 A lot of people have been surprised at how fast he hit the ground running.

01:28:25.000 Do you think part of that is...

01:28:27.000 Because he's probably expecting to be...

01:28:29.000 Impeached at some point in the...

01:28:30.000 Well, no, because, look, the fact of the matter is he's only got 18 months to get anything done because as of after 18 months, then people start running for re-election and stuff.

01:28:41.000 Midterms.

01:28:42.000 People start paying attention to midterms and stuff, so he has to get as much done as he can.

01:28:46.000 He's probably only going to get, if I understand correctly, there's probably two bills they're going to get.

01:28:50.000 There's going to be an omnibus bill where you're going to shove everything in, and we talked about this the other day.

01:28:57.000 And Tim was like, yo, they should not do this and not do that and not do this.

01:29:01.000 And it's like, look, man, he's only going to get a couple options or a couple chances to do anything.

01:29:05.000 So you are going to have to make deals because we don't have a huge majority. 0.80

01:29:13.000 So if you want things, you're going to get a bill that has a bunch of garbage in it.

01:29:20.000 Write this down in your calendar now. 1.00

01:29:22.000 When the next bill comes up for an actual vote, it's going to have a bunch of shit you don't want. 0.99

01:29:27.000 It's going to have tons of stuff that you don't want. 0.99

01:29:30.000 It's going to be full to the brim of stuff that you don't want.

01:29:33.000 But if it has the stuff that you do want, you have to accept that.

01:29:38.000 Because otherwise you don't get anything.

01:29:40.000 And fair enough if you're like...

01:29:41.000 Well, then let's not do anything.

01:29:43.000 If that's your take, then fine.

01:29:45.000 But if you want to get things done, if you want to actually save America, if you want to shrink the government, you want to actually make changes, you're going to have to understand, you're going to have to...

01:29:56.000 Deal with the fact that we don't have the kind of majority where you can just shove through whatever you want.

01:30:01.000 You ever been married?

01:30:02.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:02.000 I'm just saying, it's like, get married, and you'll find out, you know, you have to make compromises, both of you guys.

01:30:08.000 I do think, by the way, I'm going to say that real fast to the people that do lean more extreme.

01:30:13.000 I think we've been playing to a lot of that out there, and I know no one will ever like people taking a centrist position, and I'm not one.

01:30:19.000 However, I will much rather take Trump's centrist vision for the country that's pro-nationalist than whatever...

01:30:25.000 I don't know if I'm alone on that, but it's like it is not a right-wing nationalist dream. 0.94

01:30:33.000 But at the same time, I mean, when you talk about the better of two evils or definitely getting good stuff done, I think Trump is proving himself up front and proving people who said don't vote for Trump sort of to look a little silly. 0.77

01:30:43.000 That's my personal opinion.

01:30:44.000 And some of them are my friends, but, you know, he's doing a pretty damn good job.

01:30:47.000 And if your whole life is, well, he could be doing better.

01:30:50.000 He could be doing better. 0.96

01:30:51.000 Then what the hell are you, dude? 0.98

01:30:52.000 Are you buff? 0.99

01:30:52.000 Are you perfect? 0.99

01:30:53.000 Do you have everything you want?

01:30:54.000 No.

01:30:54.000 That's the typical.

01:30:55.000 That's one of the things that makes me loathe even calling myself a libertarian at all, is because the libertarians are just notorious for, like, making the perfect.

01:31:04.000 Well, they make the perfect the enemy of the good.

01:31:07.000 Stop it.

01:31:08.000 They make the perfect the enemy of the good.

01:31:13.000 They say, well, I'm not getting everything I want, so then I'm just going to go ahead and tear it all down.

01:31:17.000 That's just a massive problem.

01:31:19.000 Bold prediction on how the votes will go on this huge omnibus bill.

01:31:22.000 It'll be down party lines and then with Thomas Massey abstaining or voting against.

01:31:27.000 Yeah, which is fine.

01:31:28.000 The same thing as the speaker race.

01:31:30.000 So, no goodies for him, I guess.

01:31:32.000 He never wants...

01:31:33.000 He doesn't want goodies anyways.

01:31:34.000 Look, the only thing that I want...

01:31:36.000 His district should want goodies.

01:31:37.000 It sounds like he's not representing them very well.

01:31:39.000 I mean, he keeps getting re-elected, so they can't want many goodies.

01:31:42.000 So does Maxine Waters.

01:31:43.000 Yeah, she'll never... 0.97

01:31:44.000 She'll get elected when she's dead. 1.00

01:31:46.000 I don't know.

01:31:47.000 I'm just...

01:31:47.000 I'm feeling pretty optimistic.

01:31:49.000 She's that popular. 0.98

01:31:49.000 Wow. 0.98

01:31:50.000 No, but honestly, she's a Democrat. 0.94

01:31:52.000 She is very popular.

01:31:53.000 Nancy Pelosi.

01:31:55.000 Yeah.

01:31:56.000 I was saying, if it's blue enough, it doesn't matter.

01:31:57.000 They'll just vote for you because the party lines...

01:31:59.000 Well, I think it's deeper than that.

01:32:02.000 I'm not going to get into it because YouTube doesn't like that stuff.

01:32:05.000 Plus, it's super chat time.

01:32:07.000 Is it super chat time?

01:32:09.000 Yes, it is.

01:32:10.000 He's like, let's get to this, please.

01:32:12.000 Alright, I guess we can do some super chats.

01:32:16.000 Let's see here.

01:32:17.000 You did good, Phil.

01:32:18.000 You did really good.

01:32:19.000 You did?

01:32:20.000 No, you did.

01:32:20.000 You did.

01:32:21.000 Yes, I did.

01:32:22.000 Chad, did you guys have a good night tonight with Phil hosting IRL? Yeah, I thought you did a really good job.

01:32:26.000 No, I did.

01:32:27.000 I mean, it felt like a different show, right?

01:32:29.000 It's like a band, right?

01:32:31.000 You can get a new lead singer, just change your band name.

01:32:33.000 It doesn't mean you're not good in the new band.

01:32:35.000 Change your band name because you're a new band.

01:32:36.000 That's my opinion.

01:32:37.000 But it is a different show, but I would say this.

01:32:40.000 You should get into podcasting.

01:32:41.000 I'm kidding you.

01:32:42.000 I know you're...

01:32:42.000 Elijah, put the beanie on if he's like Tim's still here.

01:32:45.000 While you still have the beanie on, it feels like he's still here.

01:32:48.000 Phil, you're doing really good tonight.

01:32:50.000 Who is that?

01:32:51.000 He speaks really fast.

01:32:53.000 I thought that's like a Shapiro-Obama mix.

01:32:56.000 They're all morphing into one.

01:32:57.000 It's a Shapiro pool.

01:33:00.000 It's one giant cabal.

01:33:02.000 Someone said in the chat, you haven't even called out the Jewish control of the entire world. 0.99

01:33:07.000 So there you go.

01:33:08.000 There it is.

01:33:09.000 I called a lot out before the show.

01:33:11.000 Why do you think we didn't call it out?

01:33:13.000 They're in control.

01:33:14.000 We couldn't.

01:33:15.000 Call it out.

01:33:15.000 No, I called out Elon.

01:33:16.000 I said to poor Elon.

01:33:18.000 What do you think I said?

01:33:19.000 You exposed the Jews on IRL. All right, all right, all right. 1.00

01:33:22.000 So we'll do some truth.

01:33:24.000 On Shabbat!

01:33:25.000 Give me my heart.

01:33:26.000 Give me my heart.

01:33:28.000 We'll start with Shane H. Wilder here.

01:33:30.000 Shane H. Wilder says, after hearing about the Ask 9 West Virginia regulations, I came up with this.

01:33:36.000 Take me home, corporate roads, because it's clear I don't belong.

01:33:40.000 West Virginia, I don't want you.

01:33:42.000 Take me home, corporate roads.

01:33:44.000 Cheers to that one.

01:33:45.000 That's a good one.

01:33:46.000 I do want to mention that Morrissey, when he was campaigning for West Virginia, we were at an Olive Garden of all places.

01:33:55.000 I told you guys this beforehand.

01:33:56.000 And he came in and was just interrupting people's dinner to talk about politics to them. 0.88

01:34:01.000 If there was anything that would make me not vote for you, it's to interrupt when I'm eating so that I can talk about your crappy policy.

01:34:08.000 Isn't there something so average, Joe, about meeting voters in the Olive Garden of all places?

01:34:12.000 I don't know how things are in West Virginia.

01:34:14.000 It's very down to earth.

01:34:16.000 Hey, I'm a regular guy.

01:34:17.000 I go to Olive Garden.

01:34:18.000 You go to Olive Garden.

01:34:18.000 I did appreciate when he's like...

01:34:20.000 I get some red sticks.

01:34:22.000 It's like the Taco Bell of Italian. 0.99

01:34:24.000 But by the way, did anyone talk shit on Olive Garden? 0.99

01:34:28.000 It is pretty good. 0.99

01:34:29.000 No, the breadsticks and the Alfredo sauce together, I was too poor to afford Alfredo sauce when we could afford, you know, Olive Garden thought we were rich.

01:34:36.000 I grew up thinking that was like what rich people ate.

01:34:38.000 And maybe it's my bias, but those breadsticks and that salad, there's nothing hits like the breadsticks and salad.

01:34:43.000 I will take no Olive Garden slander here tonight.

01:34:45.000 I'm just saying there's nothing hits.

01:34:46.000 The salad is colder than most.

01:34:48.000 Look, if it's unlimited, if it's unlimited anything, it's for me.

01:34:51.000 I don't know what to tell you.

01:34:52.000 I disagree.

01:34:53.000 Let's see.

01:34:55.000 Barrett.

01:34:56.000 1313 says DEI will be rebranded.

01:35:00.000 EOED, EEOE, Equal Opportunity Employment Department.

01:35:05.000 Commies always play word games. 1.00

01:35:07.000 And that is true.

01:35:08.000 That is an actual true statement.

01:35:11.000 Are always playing word games.

01:35:13.000 Nothing is really...

01:35:14.000 It's all the same stuff.

01:35:16.000 It's all Marxist power dynamics, whether it be proletariat versus the property owners or black versus white or whatever.

01:35:25.000 Critical race theory, then we got to DEI. Even now, when you guys are talking about fascism, you're like, okay, let's settle on a definition first because all of the definitions for all of these terms have been adjusted so much over the last few years that you don't even know what it means.

01:35:40.000 I don't think we ever...

01:35:40.000 I forgot a definition, so it's hard to define these stuff.

01:35:43.000 Part of the reason why the communists play word games is because they don't realize it, but they're all descendants of Hegel.

01:35:50.000 And Hegel said, look, history uses people and casts them aside.

01:35:54.000 Hegel doesn't care about the person, and he never cared about who was saying what.

01:35:59.000 And honestly, what was being said...

01:36:02.000 Isn't the important part.

01:36:03.000 It's the ideas behind it.

01:36:04.000 So if it was Mark saying it, or whether it was Herbert Marcuse saying it, or whether it be Angela Davis saying it, or whatever, it doesn't matter who's carrying the message.

01:36:13.000 And it doesn't matter if the power dynamic that is being presented to you is the rich versus the poor, or black versus white.

01:36:20.000 The point is the revolution.

01:36:21.000 It is always the revolution.

01:36:23.000 It is never anything other than the revolution.

01:36:26.000 The issue is never the issue.

01:36:28.000 The issue is always the revolution.

01:36:31.000 They can tell you that you can be racist, but somebody of another skin color cannot. 1.00

01:36:35.000 Yeah.

01:36:35.000 Yeah, and I like to say we're all racist.

01:36:37.000 It's just how much you are or how much you aren't.

01:36:40.000 But I mean, that's actually the truth, though.

01:36:41.000 I mean, literally everybody is a little bit recognizing today.

01:36:44.000 No, I'm saying everybody recognizes today that there are differences, and when they define racism as...

01:36:48.000 Any recognition of any race or any differences, that makes you racist.

01:36:52.000 Then they're able to control the terms because now they've made a negative connotation.

01:36:56.000 And they can weaponize that against who they want.

01:36:57.000 I mean, that doesn't matter because they also redefine it and say, if you don't recognize the difference between...

01:37:01.000 Correct.

01:37:01.000 You have to be anti-racist.

01:37:03.000 We're all racist.

01:37:04.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:37:05.000 They say that.

01:37:05.000 So then you have to be anti-racist because it's in your heart.

01:37:08.000 What's it called?

01:37:09.000 Unrealized or your...

01:37:11.000 Internalized racism.

01:37:13.000 But this is more...

01:37:15.000 The dynamic you're talking about is just...

01:37:17.000 Just an example of the fact that it doesn't matter who's being called racist or actually what is being said.

01:37:24.000 The idea is there is a problem and I must be in control to change this situation.

01:37:29.000 It's about the revolution.

01:37:31.000 It's not about the real problem.

01:37:33.000 It's not about who has money and property and who doesn't.

01:37:35.000 It's not about who is in control.

01:37:37.000 It's about the people that are saying you're racist or you're a property owner, you're bourgeoisie, so you're evil.

01:37:44.000 Those people are using this dynamic.

01:37:46.000 to assault the people that have what they want and they will continue to do that until they get...

01:37:53.000 Power over whatever it is they're looking for.

01:37:55.000 It's the same reason you see so many of them in charities and NGOs, because they understand that if they solve the problem of their organization, they are inherently going to go out of business.

01:38:04.000 Same mindset.

01:38:04.000 Rest in peace, George Floyd revolution.

01:38:06.000 That was what we heard.

01:38:07.000 Well, it's revolution, you know?

01:38:09.000 That's the important part.

01:38:10.000 So, let's see here.

01:38:12.000 Autumn Fire, is that the one you're looking at there, Serge? 0.98

01:38:14.000 Autumn Fire says, the left is going to bitch and moan and sue and call everyone a Nazi for the next four years, just like last time. 0.98

01:38:21.000 Correct? 0.93

01:38:22.000 We cannot let that distract from the movement like they did last time.

01:38:27.000 This is true, and I do think that the positive thing about the situation now is that the The modern American has kind of grown tired of being called names for being pro-America, being called names for being like, well, I don't feel bad about my skin color.

01:38:47.000 I don't feel like I should be treated badly just because of the way that I was born.

01:38:52.000 I think people are sick and tired of hearing Nazi.

01:38:55.000 I think everyone, if you look at the way that people behaved about the whole, you know...

01:39:00.000 Elon Musk sending his heart out.

01:39:03.000 Very quickly, people were like, normies on the right, right?

01:39:07.000 People that five, seven years ago would have been like, oh, they'd have been clutching their pearls.

01:39:12.000 Oh my God, how could he do that?

01:39:14.000 They're like, look, this is the same stuff they've been saying forever.

01:39:18.000 To their credit, these are the people that finally got around to looking at the original tape of the Very Fine People hoax, and they said, oh, they do lie about whether or not someone is a Nazi when they're calling people Nazi.

01:39:31.000 Like, the whole Very Fine People hoax has probably been the best inoculation against the left.

01:39:37.000 Tactics that probably you could find, you know?

01:39:41.000 Can I give a quick conspiratorial to you?

01:39:43.000 Nope!

01:39:44.000 Canceled!

01:39:45.000 Actually, I was like so...

01:39:47.000 Seriously, hold on!

01:39:48.000 Let a lot go!

01:39:51.000 That's ice!

01:39:51.000 It's coming to get you, buddy!

01:39:53.000 Importation's coming!

01:39:54.000 The conspiritual take on the Elon Musk stuff is that this guy's way too smart to not know what he was doing, but he knew he'd have the plausible deniability of it.

01:40:02.000 And Elon Musk loves the media attention.

01:40:04.000 So he was baiting this, knowing that a lot of the leftist media would come out against him and that he'd have a bunch of people on the right defending him.

01:40:11.000 He wanted the attention during the it was right after the Trump inauguration.

01:40:14.000 It was a perfect time to make him the news cycle.

01:40:17.000 And I think Elon Musk again and again, proven himself to be a savvy media actor and he's very trollish and I don't think he's beyond doing something like this to bait people into getting such a big reaction.

01:40:28.000 Honestly, even if you're right, I don't care, because at the end of the day, I don't believe that Elon Musk is actually a Nazi.

01:40:36.000 There's no part of me that believes he's a national...

01:40:39.000 It helped make him... 1.00

01:40:40.000 Shut up. 0.97

01:40:40.000 It helped make his name the biggest name in the news cycle for a day or two, and people need to understand how valuable that is. 0.97

01:40:46.000 Fair enough, but again...

01:40:47.000 It's creating the paper trail so they build the case.

01:40:49.000 That's what it is, man.

01:40:50.000 It's building the Google search.

01:40:51.000 It's like the ranking of the people.

01:40:53.000 It's like...

01:40:53.000 The articles start to build...

01:40:55.000 I don't believe that Musk is actually enough.

01:40:57.000 No, no.

01:40:57.000 I'm talking about why the media does it.

01:40:59.000 It's like...

01:40:59.000 Because what it is is like...

01:41:01.000 You'll notice this, right?

01:41:02.000 I used to work with Glenn Beck, and like...

01:41:05.000 He would have somebody on his show who would say something conspiratorial, and then the next day, an article would mention something true he said, but to counter him, it would say...

01:41:15.000 Glenn Beck, who recently hosted a virulent conspiracy theorist, said.

01:41:19.000 And so it's creating this ranking sort of like SEO, human credit score that they bring onto people that they can use their own articles as their own source to back up their own points.

01:41:28.000 It's like using Wikipedia, but you wrote your own entry to support your own historical point.

01:41:33.000 And that's why they do this. 0.95

01:41:34.000 It's like it's a circle jerk where they feel like they're justified in the worldview because I'm from New York Times, but someone from ABC said that you're a Nazi. 0.80

01:41:41.000 And so I can quote ABC, but it's like, what world are you living in? 0.95

01:41:44.000 That was also you under a different pen name.

01:41:46.000 So you know what I'm talking about in the media. 0.99

01:41:48.000 They just use it as a way to justify their bullshit circle jerk worldview. 0.98

01:41:53.000 And I think the rest of us that are sort of opting out of it are taking it for granted because countries like the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, they're still stuck on the mainstream media circle jerk. 0.99

01:42:02.000 We are sort of...

01:42:03.000 Out of it?

01:42:04.000 Someone says that Joe Rogan's a Nazi.

01:42:07.000 It's like, we're way past that.

01:42:09.000 But right now, still in Australia, if you were on Joe Rogan as a politician, you could get disqualified because you're on a Nazi podcast. 0.95

01:42:14.000 I think the true circle jerk is the circular reporting. 0.97

01:42:17.000 ABC reports.

01:42:18.000 New York Times sources them.

01:42:21.000 Reuters sources the New York Times.

01:42:22.000 Death by hyperlink.

01:42:24.000 So yeah, we're just going in circles with an outlandish claim and then it gets cycled through and next thing you know, it's on Wikipedia being accepted as truth.

01:42:30.000 I feel like it gets onto Wikipedia very early because that place is run by crazy leftist I heard on Tim Kass news that he was not a Nazi so that's my source Oh, yeah, you know, I think you're right I think the problem that I find with all that now is everybody just dismisses everybody else's news sources anyways so So the best thing you can do is to find an argument that can be bolstered through their own news sources.

01:42:52.000 Otherwise, they're going to look at anything you say, well, that site isn't credible, so it doesn't matter.

01:42:57.000 I agree totally.

01:42:59.000 Let's see here.

01:43:00.000 What do we got?

01:43:02.000 Jonathan Almer says, As an Aussie, I hate the talk that Finland should be neutral.

01:43:07.000 No, I don't trust China.

01:43:09.000 I want us aligned with the U.S. Not told to play nice with both.

01:43:13.000 I'm not sure what the hell he's talking about.

01:43:16.000 I want women to have free tampons. 1.00

01:43:20.000 I don't know what that means.

01:43:21.000 That's confusing, man.

01:43:25.000 Young P. Chan says, Elijah, I love you, my nibba always, grower gang for life.

01:43:30.000 What is he saying?

01:43:31.000 Okay, it's the fact that, look, life is not about what you're showing.

01:43:35.000 Even if you're growing, as long as you are able to show when it's needed, so we're the grower gang because we are able to show up when we're called upon, even if we're unimpressive.

01:43:45.000 The rest of the time.

01:43:47.000 I'll leave the words to be clean.

01:43:49.000 That's my favorite super chat so far tonight.

01:43:51.000 Grower Gang, we have stickers too.

01:43:52.000 Do you really have stickers?

01:43:54.000 It's Grower Gang, helping you grow into a stronger person in every place from your heart to your...

01:43:59.000 Anyways.

01:44:03.000 Delmar says...

01:44:05.000 The other entries into NATO is simple.

01:44:07.000 They want the massive warehouse of American pre-position hardware, tanks, helos, arty, etc., with minimum personnel for upkeep.

01:44:16.000 America flies in the troops, and the tanks roll within 12 to 48 hours of an invasion.

01:44:22.000 I mean, I think that there might be some truth to that, but...

01:44:27.000 Stop it, Serge. 0.78

01:44:29.000 Everybody, you guys should see the garbage that I have to put up with when I'm filming. 0.99

01:44:33.000 He's naked. 0.99

01:44:33.000 We're uncomfortable. 0.99

01:44:35.000 Off camera.

01:44:35.000 I think that there might be some truth to that, but at the same time, the United States is really, really good.

01:44:42.000 The military is really good at logistics, right?

01:44:45.000 If you really piss the United States off, there will be a Burger King in your country within 36 hours.

01:44:52.000 They're going to have a Pizza Hut, a Taco Bell.

01:44:55.000 It is crazy.

01:44:56.000 True.

01:44:57.000 Yeah, in Olive Garden.

01:44:59.000 And there will be...

01:45:00.000 There'll be a skee-ball playing Chuck E. Cheese.

01:45:02.000 There'll be a mobile Chuck E. Cheese.

01:45:03.000 Their kids will be there, you know?

01:45:04.000 It's crazy stuff.

01:45:06.000 No joke.

01:45:07.000 So I understand what you're saying, but at the same time, I do think that the U.S.'s ability to move massive amounts of military hardware and logistics, if there's anything that the U.S. is good at, it's that stuff along with blowing up bad guys.

01:45:23.000 We're not bad.

01:45:24.000 We're actually not bad at war.

01:45:26.000 We lose wars.

01:45:27.000 We're never actually losing.

01:45:29.000 No.

01:45:29.000 Because the point is to keep the wars going.

01:45:30.000 So it's like as long as we're continuing the buying of arms, we've never lost because our goal is as long as those companies are funded, our military stays armed and bolster.

01:45:40.000 Our economy keeps growing.

01:45:41.000 So I think we've won every war.

01:45:43.000 We have.

01:45:44.000 The United States is absolutely...

01:45:46.000 Is without question the best at war.

01:45:49.000 We're terrible at politics.

01:45:51.000 We do all of the engagement, actual fighting part, all of the getting The military out to places in the most remote spots on earth.

01:46:00.000 We do all that better than any society or any country in all of human history.

01:46:05.000 The thing we can't do is figure out how to end a war and figure out how to have actual rules of engagement that work.

01:46:12.000 We can do the blowing stuff up part.

01:46:15.000 Awesome.

01:46:15.000 We're great at that.

01:46:16.000 Figuring out how to actually transition from blowing stuff up to stopping.

01:46:21.000 Who knows, man?

01:46:23.000 Like, 16-year-olds getting pregnant earlier.

01:46:25.000 They share common with the U.S. government.

01:46:27.000 They don't know when to pull out.

01:46:28.000 And that's the problem.

01:46:29.000 It's like, it is always an issue.

01:46:31.000 And we end up leaving a big mess.

01:46:33.000 And I just gotta say, it is funny, though.

01:46:36.000 And then when we pull out, it is pretty disastrous.

01:46:39.000 But ultimately, that's why everyone's like, oh, they left weaponry in Afghanistan.

01:46:42.000 I'm like...

01:46:43.000 All according to plan.

01:46:45.000 So, like, we got this.

01:46:46.000 So, I think I'm a little more sinister in that way.

01:46:49.000 I feel like the banks and the military and all this stuff, we are not losing.

01:46:53.000 All I want to say is that to be like, we lost in Afghanistan. 1.00

01:46:56.000 Bullshit. 1.00

01:46:56.000 They're like, what do you mean? 1.00

01:46:57.000 We were there for 20 years.

01:46:58.000 Yeah, we didn't lose.

01:47:00.000 Americans don't lose wars. 0.99

01:47:02.000 They lose interests.

01:47:03.000 Yeah.

01:47:03.000 Look, I mean, if anyone remembers the stated reasons why we went to Afghanistan, like, for the first...

01:47:11.000 12 years that were, 10 years that we were in Afghanistan, the reason that we were there was to capture or kill Osama bin Laden.

01:47:17.000 If we'd have left May 7th or whatever, I think they got him on, no, May 11th, they got him on, or 2011 or something like that.

01:47:24.000 If we'd have left the next morning, we could have walked out and said, Mission accomplished.

01:47:29.000 We did what we needed to do, and that would have been an actual war that the American people said, we went in, we did what we had to do, blah, blah, blah.

01:47:36.000 Mission accomplished, Bush on the aircraft carrier?

01:47:39.000 That's exactly what...

01:47:39.000 And it would have been legitimate.

01:47:41.000 It would have been legitimate.

01:47:42.000 The Bush stuff was BS, but if they'd actually left after they went into Pakistan and found Osama bin Laden, if they had packed up and left, then the United States could say, look, we did what we came here to do.

01:47:53.000 We got Osama bin Laden. 0.88

01:47:55.000 Now the action is over.

01:47:58.000 The military's operation is finished, so we got out of there.

01:48:03.000 That would have been an acceptable situation to the American people, but, you know, whether it be poppies or CIA or whatever reason people want to go ahead and say we stayed in Afghanistan, that...

01:48:16.000 Is what happened and we stayed, you know, a decade or so longer than we should.

01:48:20.000 It's a million people and a couple trillion dollars later or whatever, I mean, you know.

01:48:24.000 It wasn't, wait, not a million American.

01:48:26.000 It's a million people.

01:48:27.000 Mr. Raytheon is like, no, it did exactly what it was supposed to do.

01:48:31.000 We spent millions and millions and billions of dollars.

01:48:34.000 I think it was over, I think it was a couple trillion, right?

01:48:36.000 Over the life of the war, it was like two or two.

01:48:37.000 Two, yeah, two trillion, yeah.

01:48:39.000 Just how we expected it to go.

01:48:41.000 You know.

01:48:41.000 It is.

01:48:42.000 Let's see.

01:48:43.000 Convincing Reality said, let's not beat around the bush.

01:48:48.000 The political function of foreign aid is a bribe.

01:48:50.000 It secures influence, compliance, or support from recipient nations.

01:48:54.000 I think that that's actually a little too naive of a take.

01:49:00.000 I don't think that he's wrong.

01:49:02.000 But I think that it's too simple.

01:49:05.000 Like I said, you know, that money goes back into the United, at least when it comes to military funding, that money goes back into the United States, goes to, you know...

01:49:15.000 People that are working for Raytheon.

01:49:17.000 That's the most sinister part about it, right?

01:49:19.000 Is when people are talking about paring down on sending weapons overseas and that our money shouldn't be going, they're like, well, it's going to American citizens.

01:49:26.000 And people are like, yes, through your tax money that shouldn't need to be taken anyways.

01:49:30.000 We just talked about this.

01:49:31.000 There is no tax money.

01:49:33.000 It's not your tax money.

01:49:34.000 They just print up the money when they want to.

01:49:37.000 But anyways.

01:49:38.000 But yes, your point is well taken.

01:49:40.000 It is probably more nefarious that that's the situation.

01:49:47.000 Let's see.

01:49:48.000 Some more Super Chats.

01:49:50.000 Let's see here. 0.90

01:49:52.000 The Emperor's Champion says, You fundamentally misunderstand how screwed up California is.

01:49:57.000 If you don't have conditions to this aid, we'll end up with the same problem year after year.

01:50:02.000 California is incapable of governing itself.

01:50:06.000 Do we need a comment on that?

01:50:08.000 It is governing itself.

01:50:10.000 It is governing itself the way it wants to govern itself.

01:50:14.000 Separate of the whole country. 0.92

01:50:15.000 I just want people to say that's like, oh, they're not governing themselves.

01:50:19.000 No.

01:50:20.000 That is a specific and strategic way to govern a location.

01:50:23.000 And they're doing it independent of the government until they need the rest of the country's money.

01:50:26.000 Like now.

01:50:27.000 And then they come to us for money.

01:50:28.000 And then they win every time.

01:50:30.000 They stay the same and they never change.

01:50:31.000 It's all that remains.

01:50:33.000 I like how you worked that in there. 1.00

01:50:37.000 That was stupid. 1.00

01:50:39.000 But that is. 1.00

01:50:40.000 I'm just saying, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't working for them.

01:50:43.000 Yeah, that's fair enough.

01:50:44.000 Fair enough.

01:50:44.000 Okay.

01:50:46.000 Let's see.

01:50:47.000 Just Cause I'm Free says, the salt and brine that's left over from the desalinization can be sent up north and help create ice.

01:50:55.000 Just a thought.

01:50:56.000 Water with high salt content has a colder freezing point.

01:50:58.000 I mean, yeah, but how does that help create ice?

01:51:04.000 Do you put water surrounded by the brine solution?

01:51:08.000 Can I make a fact?

01:51:09.000 I'm sorry to interrupt.

01:51:10.000 Can I make a fact check on something I said earlier?

01:51:12.000 I was looking at updates from the Pete Hegseth confirmation, and McConnell did vote no.

01:51:19.000 So that's what made it 50-50.

01:51:22.000 I mistakenly cited earlier that McConnell wasn't going to stab Trump in the back, and I was wrong.

01:51:28.000 So he got back into his shell, his turtle shell.

01:51:31.000 I was playing a Mario Kart, and I threw a McConnell and won the race.

01:51:36.000 What the hell is wrong with that guy?

01:51:38.000 Can we just talk about physiognomy and how evil people look evil? 0.99

01:51:41.000 That's crazy, man. 1.00

01:51:42.000 I'm not into plastic surgery, but do a face talk, you ugly hag. 1.00

01:51:46.000 He's an 80-year-old man. 0.99

01:51:48.000 I don't think he needs to look like a handsome guy. 0.97

01:51:49.000 He's a 640-year-old demon. 0.96

01:51:52.000 You know what I mean? 0.80

01:51:52.000 I challenge you. 0.80

01:51:53.000 He would actually somehow look more nefarious if he spent a bunch of money to look different.

01:51:57.000 So I think Mitch McConnell was heavily involved.

01:52:00.000 If it weren't for Mitch McConnell, then Neil Gorsuch wouldn't be on our Supreme Court right now.

01:52:05.000 So I think you do need to appreciate him for what he did accomplish while in office.

01:52:10.000 I think if you're just taking him for the negative, you're missing the nuance that goes on.

01:52:14.000 He just got confirmed right now, right?

01:52:15.000 In the moment?

01:52:15.000 I think it's 50-50 in J.D. I think he just did it.

01:52:18.000 I think that's what I'm reading, but I don't know.

01:52:22.000 Rumor, when I look on X, I see people saying that he has been confirmed.

01:52:26.000 I don't know.

01:52:27.000 I don't know if JD has actually cast the vote, but ostensibly the plan that you hear is, okay, 50-50, and so JD Vance can cast the tie-breaking vote.

01:52:39.000 Elijah, I wanted to ask, for all intents and purposes, isn't Pete Hexeth essentially a neocon, though, for what he stands on?

01:52:46.000 You're not going to like it.

01:52:47.000 I'd say he's more of a Zionist than a neocon.

01:52:49.000 I mean, one and the same the way you use them.

01:52:51.000 How?

01:52:53.000 So he's a Zionist. 0.80

01:52:56.000 I don't think...

01:52:58.000 I would say that Zionist and Neocon interests are oftentimes aligned because they both want war and they both have expansionist ideas and that the Neocons use Zionists because it helps meet their goal of endless war. 0.62

01:53:09.000 But I don't think that the Neocons would always need Zionists and I think if the Zionists ever broke off from the Neocons, they'd find a way, like I said, to expand NATO or something that has completely separate ideas. 0.98

01:53:17.000 I think neocons are involved in so many other conflicts outside the Middle East.

01:53:21.000 It's just that Israel's expansionism takes advantage of the neocons, I would say. 0.51

01:53:26.000 Do you think he's a good pick despite his Zionist credentials? 0.87

01:53:30.000 Do I think that he's going to run the military well?

01:53:34.000 I don't know we had any other option, and I think he does love our country, and he does love the boys and the girls there, and I do think that he will at least lead with a position of care.

01:53:42.000 Again, his policy suggestions are the way that he decides to implement our military to follow orders from the commander-in-chief.

01:53:51.000 I think he'll take those orders directly, and I don't really know how much he's going to be deciding where we go to war or what.

01:53:56.000 But if Trump decides we're going to go somewhere, if Congress brings it into law, do I think Pete's going to do a damn good job about getting our pizza huts and Burger King set up quickly and our defense lines?

01:54:07.000 Yes.

01:54:08.000 Does that answer your question?

01:54:09.000 Yeah, and I think Pete Hegseth was a great pick for Donald Trump to make.

01:54:12.000 Yeah, I mean, I love his...

01:54:14.000 Weren't they mad?

01:54:15.000 Didn't they already call him a Nazi tattoo guy, too?

01:54:17.000 Everybody. 0.93

01:54:17.000 I think they did sexual assault with him. 0.93

01:54:19.000 Well, they did both.

01:54:21.000 The Jerusalem Cross is a Nazi symbol, even though it looks nothing like any Nazi symbol.

01:54:28.000 And...

01:54:29.000 It is not a Nazi symbol when it's on the floor of the church that Jimmy Carter was presented in when people came to pay their respects to Jimmy Carter, that Jerusalem Cross is on the floor, and apparently that makes it not.

01:54:45.000 When it's on your chest, it makes it Nazi. 0.82

01:54:48.000 When it's on the ground, it's not. 0.63

01:54:50.000 We just amalgamate them together being like, Pete Hagseth sexually assaulted Elon Musk, Sig Heil, using his Nazi cross tattoo.

01:54:58.000 You know, that's a good headline, right?

01:55:00.000 Sounds like you're doing ad-libs.

01:55:01.000 Yeah, but it's like, hey, I just quoted everybody.

01:55:05.000 So Trucker Joe, True Trucker Joe says, I've sent emails and super chats and still am not on the show.

01:55:11.000 This Yahoo doesn't understand the privilege that he has.

01:55:14.000 Wow.

01:55:15.000 Lol, JK, y'all are awesome.

01:55:17.000 Which one?

01:55:18.000 Who is the Yahoo in this specific situation?

01:55:21.000 I'm the Yahoo.

01:55:21.000 You or you, me?

01:55:23.000 I think, well, my last name's Ellie Yahoo.

01:55:25.000 I don't know.

01:55:25.000 Do you want to be the Yahoo?

01:55:26.000 I have a suspiciously Jewish last name, too.

01:55:30.000 Isn't your wife Jewish? 0.99

01:55:31.000 Some say.

01:55:32.000 Some say.

01:55:33.000 Allegedly.

01:55:34.000 We know who's really pulling the strings in that relationship, if you know what I mean.

01:55:38.000 Those guys pulling all those strings?

01:55:40.000 Hey, she's already got me earning all the money. 0.92

01:55:42.000 Or was this an Yahoo?

01:55:44.000 I'm not very banker of her.

01:55:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:47.000 You have no idea.

01:55:48.000 She's already like, you make the money and I'll spend it.

01:55:50.000 You like that?

01:55:50.000 And I'm like, all right, here we go.

01:55:52.000 She runs the show. 0.97

01:55:54.000 She's controlled by the Jewish. 1.00

01:55:56.000 Hey, do you know, by the way, this is actually a very random funny statement. 0.91

01:55:59.000 So Black Twitter writes its own like... 0.99

01:56:03.000 Black Twitter is its own thing, its own culture. 1.00

01:56:06.000 I didn't make that name.

01:56:06.000 They did, right?

01:56:08.000 But they came up with this, like, I don't know where they got it, but it went viral, like millions of impressions, like my family history, that my grandma was like this...

01:56:19.000 A woman named Adeline Schoenberg.

01:56:21.000 How did you get the attention of black Twitter, Elijah?

01:56:23.000 Oh, do not ask me.

01:56:24.000 I literally just did.

01:56:25.000 Come on, man.

01:56:26.000 Okay, well, it all started when I said that the Little Mermaid actress needed to apply for a visa to get from one eye to the other.

01:56:34.000 They were so spread apart.

01:56:36.000 And so then DDG, her boyfriend, who they broke up, by the way, now, and they have a child together, so I'm sorry, DDG, but you defended a woman who ended up splitting from you and leaving you, so learn not to be a simp. 0.52

01:56:46.000 But, yeah, I mean, oops.

01:56:48.000 But on top of that, you wonder why they don't like me, but on top of that, and then also he libeled me and said some things that I could...

01:56:56.000 You know, there's potential legal action still there.

01:56:58.000 I'm already talking to lawyers.

01:56:58.000 So, you know, watch out, buddy.

01:57:00.000 You might be black in the streets, but when we get into the courts, the Jews are in charge, and I am one, apparently. 0.99

01:57:04.000 So when they said, he said that my, they said my parents were like Adeline Schoenberg from, like, Ukraine and Romania. 0.84

01:57:09.000 So the best part is now is they used to, like, get mad at me and call me a racist and, like, go at me for being white.

01:57:14.000 They call me, like, a mayo monkey and all this stuff.

01:57:16.000 And now, because they have identified my grandparents as being, you know, Romanian-Ukrainian Jews, the black community is so anti-Semitic towards me, it would even make jokes.

01:57:25.000 James Lindsay shiver in his little boots. 1.00

01:57:27.000 Because the point is, it's like you go to my comments and it's black people being like, you stupid rat Jew. 1.00

01:57:32.000 In my comments. 1.00

01:57:34.000 And so they hate me because I'm Jewish now.

01:57:36.000 And so I think it's even funnier because it's like, that's even greater than anything I've ever had.

01:57:41.000 And it's gotten into articles and stuff like The Secret Life.

01:57:43.000 What do the Roypers think of this?

01:57:45.000 I don't know.

01:57:45.000 I mean, I haven't met any of them, really.

01:57:47.000 Elijah, how does it feel to experience anti-Semitism?

01:57:53.000 Wow, he is speechless.

01:57:55.000 I can't even believe it.

01:57:56.000 I put on Ron Coleman's kippah just to blend in.

01:58:00.000 No, you know what?

01:58:01.000 You know what?

01:58:02.000 I honestly, I mean, you've been online long enough.

01:58:05.000 I love the hatred, and I live off of it, and I honestly really do enjoy it.

01:58:10.000 But experiencing the anti-Semitism, as long as I'm not going to become six million number one, I think I'll be fine. 0.73

01:58:16.000 Hey, maybe, you know, a lot of Jews learn from anti-Semitism to become Zionists. 0.83

01:58:21.000 I already started complaining.

01:58:21.000 Maybe you could start your path, and who knows?

01:58:24.000 There's redemption for everybody, Elijah.

01:58:25.000 What's the next Super Show, by the way?

01:58:27.000 Let's see.

01:58:30.000 Redemption, right?

01:58:31.000 You guys love that stuff.

01:58:32.000 Don't worry, Elijah.

01:58:32.000 Heath Hansen says...

01:58:35.000 She's on the back.

01:58:35.000 You make enough money.

01:58:36.000 Hey, hey, hey.

01:58:38.000 Heath Hanson says, Phil is correct.

01:58:39.000 There are tons of handsome, talented people that do not have contacts, so are without opportunity.

01:58:44.000 Look, if you are a handsome person, if you're attractive and you can't get some kind of job, you need to get off the couch because they're, look.

01:58:55.000 Pretty privilege is real.

01:58:57.000 Like, if you're an actually pretty young lady or a pretty man, like an attractive man, you're living life on easy mode.

01:59:04.000 Get out there and get after it.

01:59:06.000 It's true.

01:59:07.000 It's totally true. 1.00

01:59:08.000 You hit the genetic lottery, you bitch. 1.00

01:59:09.000 When I see a successful, handsome, or pretty person, I give them a lot less credit than if I see somebody who's ugly and successful. 1.00

01:59:17.000 Oh, you think the OAN hosts and Newsmax hosts were hired for their brains?

01:59:19.000 I think they were hired for their personalities.

01:59:21.000 If you're a millionaire and you look like a foot, then you're like, what?

01:59:24.000 What does that guy know?

01:59:25.000 But if you're a millionaire and you look like some beautiful person, it's like, well, maybe they married into it, maybe they lucked into the job somehow.

01:59:33.000 Charlie Kirk, you know he's talented, right? 1.00

01:59:35.000 I'm just saying, you see that smile with the gums and you're like, that dude's smart as fuck. 0.97

01:59:39.000 It's why everyone knows I work hard. 0.99

01:59:41.000 Yeah, me too.

01:59:42.000 Look, man, I'm not tall.

01:59:43.000 Is there a pretty person who works at this company? 0.99

01:59:46.000 Everybody who works here is ugly. 0.74

01:59:47.000 I mean, I work here, so I'm not going to say. 0.95

01:59:50.000 You know, even if there was.

01:59:51.000 So no, that's how you know it's a meritocracy here at Timcast.

01:59:53.000 You know what's even worse, though, is it gets even worse in right-wing media because they would say that you have a face for radio, but that would assume you have a good voice.

01:59:58.000 But the people like me, like, I have a face and a voice for the books.

02:00:01.000 You know what I mean?

02:00:01.000 Like, I mean, I'm like in a written word and it's in Yiddish.

02:00:06.000 So it's like, no, but I'm like, it is crazy how it is they say it's politics for ugly people. 0.90

02:00:10.000 It is.

02:00:11.000 I mean, all right, everybody, smash the like button, share the show with your friends, go to Timcast.com and join up.

02:00:18.000 Elijah.

02:00:18.000 You got any parting words?

02:00:20.000 Yes, Baruch Hashem, Adonai, Elohim.

02:00:23.000 Shabbat Shalom.

02:00:23.000 Okay, no, but no, no.

02:00:25.000 No, actually, by the way, I will say, I do have a lot of Jewish family.

02:00:28.000 You do know that, actually.

02:00:29.000 I'm unsure, because I feel like you try to hide it.

02:00:30.000 No, no, no, no, that's true, that's true.

02:00:32.000 And you taste anti-Semitism as a result.

02:00:33.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

02:00:34.000 I condemn anti-Semitism, I condemn anti-Citism, and I... I give them my heart.

02:00:41.000 No, but all jokes aside, I'm a troll, guys.

02:00:43.000 I'm going to get them in trouble. 1.00

02:00:44.000 I just like to fuck around a little bit. 0.99

02:00:45.000 I shouldn't have said that until the end, but I did say it twice. 0.99

02:00:47.000 My bad.

02:00:48.000 But I will say, I have a new show out called Almost Serious on YouTube.

02:00:51.000 It's brand new.

02:00:52.000 We're starting it from the ground up.

02:00:54.000 So if you want to follow this new project and be one of the first ones in on Fridays at 12 p.m.

02:01:00.000 Eastern Time, it's on YouTube and YouTube only.

02:01:02.000 Go to almostserious or youtube.com slash at...

02:01:06.000 The at Almost Serious TV, because Almost Serious was already taken, unfortunately.

02:01:11.000 So Almost Serious TV. And go watch the show.

02:01:14.000 It's really great.

02:01:15.000 It's a little bit like my old show, You Are Here, and my other show, Slightly Offensive, brought together.

02:01:18.000 So kind of serious, but not fully in one-on-ones.

02:01:21.000 And it's going to be expanding.

02:01:22.000 We've got good backers, and I'm genuinely like, I am shilling it.

02:01:24.000 But if you like this show, you'll probably enjoy it.

02:01:27.000 And it comes out in between Culture War and this, so if you're looking for something during the day, check it out, Almost Serious, on YouTube.

02:01:33.000 Absolutely.

02:01:33.000 My name is Alot Eliyahu.

02:01:35.000 Elijah, it's been so long.

02:01:37.000 I'm thankful we were able to have an insightful, thoughtful conversation.

02:01:39.000 Come on the show, though.

02:01:40.000 Like we have before.

02:01:41.000 I will.

02:01:41.000 I hope I don't make you regret the invite.

02:01:44.000 I'll put you on three shows.

02:01:45.000 I run a news organization, so you can host a news anchor show.

02:01:48.000 And then we'll do the one-on-one, then we'll do the live show.

02:01:50.000 It'll be great.

02:01:51.000 I'm looking forward to it, so be sure to check out Elijah's new channel.

02:01:54.000 I'm also...

02:01:55.000 I covered the March for Life.

02:01:57.000 I'm not a particularly pro-life person, but something about the March for Life, the people are so welcoming and kind, and I go to so many nasty events where people are generally mean and negative, and at the March for Life, it's a bunch of young Pretty people and with families and everything.

02:02:13.000 So it was a very nice uplifting event.

02:02:14.000 I'm going to upload our coverage of that on the Tim Pool channel probably on Monday.

02:02:20.000 So be sure to check that out.

02:02:21.000 Brett?

02:02:22.000 Guys, if you want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on Twix at Brett Dasvick on both of those platforms.

02:02:28.000 Pop Culture Crisis is live five days a week, Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.

02:02:32.000 Eastern on YouTube.

02:02:33.000 You should check us out there.

02:02:34.000 It's a lot of fun, guys.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 25, 2025

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