Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - TRUMP FOUND GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS, Trial Was Rigged, Case Was FAKE w-Brandon Straka | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Donald Trump has been found guilty on all 34 counts.

00:00:22.000 They are now calling him a convicted felon, but sentencing has not yet happened.

00:00:26.000 That will be July 11th, four days before the Republican National Convention.

00:00:30.000 So without wasting any time, we're going to move quick on this one and jump straight into the major breaking news.

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00:01:12.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and this historical moment is Brandon Struck.

00:01:17.000 Hey, it's a crazy night to be here.

00:01:19.000 Obviously, really dark, devastating day, and not what I expected, but happy to be here with you guys to get into it.

00:01:26.000 And you work on WalkAway?

00:01:28.000 Yeah, I'm the founder of the WalkAway movement.

00:01:30.000 I'm hoping that we'll see a huge surge of people walking away after what's happening in our country right now.

00:01:36.000 If this isn't enough to do it for people, I don't know what is.

00:01:40.000 Carter Banks is hanging out.

00:01:41.000 What's up, guys?

00:01:42.000 Working on a lot of music that's really hitting home right now, particularly that I'm pumped to be here.

00:01:47.000 I'm Hannah Clare.

00:01:48.000 I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.

00:01:49.000 I'm a writer for scnr.com.

00:01:51.000 We should get right to the show.

00:01:52.000 Hi, Serge!

00:01:53.000 Yo guys, let's get to it.

00:01:54.000 Here's the breaking news we have from NBCNews.com.

00:01:58.000 Donald Trump found guilty in historic New York hush money case.

00:02:02.000 A New York jury on Thursday found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, the first time a former U.S.

00:02:09.000 president has been convicted of a crime.

00:02:11.000 The jury reached its verdict in the historic case after nine and a half hours of deliberations began Wednesday.

00:02:16.000 He'll be sentenced July 11th, four days before the Republican National Convention.

00:02:20.000 He faces penalties from a fine to four years in prison on each count.

00:02:25.000 Although it's expected he would be sentenced for the offenses concurrently, not consecutively.

00:02:30.000 Quote, this was a disgrace.

00:02:32.000 This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt.

00:02:36.000 Trump fumed to reporters afterwards.

00:02:38.000 Now, as for his sentencing, he's not yet a convicted felon.

00:02:43.000 A lot of people, of course, are going to play the semantic game.

00:02:45.000 In media, they already are.

00:02:46.000 But formally, he's a convicted felon after sentencing.

00:02:50.000 So the jury has reached a verdict.

00:02:53.000 Conviction comes when the sentencing is entered into the court, and then they apply the sentence. 0.95

00:02:57.000 Now, there's a possibility they may just fine Trump some light little garbage fine.

00:03:04.000 Maybe they say, you know, $300,000 fine for this and have a nice day just so that they can say he's a convicted felon. 0.92

00:03:11.000 But I wonder if there's a possibility.

00:03:13.000 I don't think prison is within the realm of possibility, but I wonder if they try to house arrest Donald Trump to Trump Tower right before the RNC so that he cannot be present for the nomination.

00:03:26.000 I mean, I think there's a very good chance of that.

00:03:28.000 The other thing that, from what I understand, the gag order is still in effect until sentencing is over and his team can't formally appeal until he's been sentenced.

00:03:35.000 And so, you know, the final, let's say, six weeks until the RNC convention, Trump is not able to formally fight back and he's also limited in how he's allowed to discuss this case.

00:03:49.000 Hard not to think of the worst outcomes right now.

00:03:53.000 Maybe a fine would be good.

00:03:55.000 Obviously, one of the things that goes into sentencing right now is the fact that it's a nonviolent crime, he's older, and he has no criminal history.

00:04:03.000 But if he is convicted and sentenced, he does have a criminal history, and that will affect sentencing in any federal case going forward.

00:04:10.000 So it's a rough time.

00:04:11.000 Can I just be here tonight to provide the doomsday opinion like through the entire show?

00:04:15.000 Yeah, because I mean like I was listening to people's opinions on the drive over here on Newsmax and Fox and everyone, literally everyone unanimously was saying, you know, like, oh, he's not going to go to prison.

00:04:26.000 That's never going to happen.

00:04:28.000 And these things don't happen.

00:04:30.000 Look, I have seen too much in my own experience, my tango with the justice system over the last three years, and I really think people are not getting it or they're not paying attention if they still think that precedence is taking place here or that we're somehow adhering to justice norms.

00:04:51.000 I think that house arrest is guaranteed at minimum, and I think they'll absolutely put him in jail.

00:05:00.000 No question about it.

00:05:01.000 I want to point out that the other day I posted a poll on X and I said, do you think Trump will be convicted?

00:05:08.000 And it was something like 52% said no, 48% said yes.

00:05:14.000 I think it's like 65,000 votes.

00:05:17.000 And most people said no, he won't be convicted.

00:05:19.000 A lot of people thought it was going to be a hung jury.

00:05:21.000 And Trump was unanimously convicted in what, 24 hours?

00:05:24.000 So, perhaps.

00:05:29.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:05:29.000 It's the worst case.

00:05:30.000 They'll put him in prison.

00:05:31.000 Right.

00:05:31.000 Why not?

00:05:32.000 Well, 34 felonies.

00:05:34.000 How do you not serve jail time if you can call those felonies?

00:05:38.000 Class E felonies.

00:05:40.000 That's the argument they're going to make.

00:05:41.000 Right.

00:05:42.000 When they do say, Trump, you're going to go to prison for, we'll call it 18 months and then two years of probation or something, the response in the media is going to be like, he was convicted on 34 felonies.

00:05:53.000 Of course he's going to get locked up.

00:05:55.000 Not to mention that, but the reason why so many people are saying, oh, he'll never spend time behind bars is actually the reason they will put him behind bars.

00:06:05.000 The fact that he's a former president is not going to help him.

00:06:07.000 It's not going to save him.

00:06:08.000 What the judge is going to say, and again, I'm not trying to make this all about my situation, but I saw firsthand federal judges take Non-cases and act like they were literally sentencing 9-11 terrorists, right?

00:06:24.000 And so this judge is going to say, you want to hold the highest office in this land, but you can't even be counted on to run your business in a way that's not criminal.

00:06:36.000 You have to spend time behind bars because the fact that you are such a corrupt human being and you want to hold the highest office in this land.

00:06:45.000 It's going to treat him like a very serious threat to everyone around him, even though it's a non-violent crime.

00:06:49.000 And to be fair, Judge Juan Roshan has already threatened him with jail time, right?

00:06:52.000 When he violated the gag order, he had these nine fines he had to pay, and then ultimately he was like, I could send you to jail over this.

00:07:01.000 And that was before he was convicted.

00:07:04.000 Something important to add for everybody who's watching.

00:07:06.000 We do not know what Trump was convicted of.

00:07:11.000 We know that there is a crime falsifying business records.

00:07:15.000 It is a misdemeanor and it's beyond its statute of limitations.

00:07:20.000 It can be, through extenuating circumstances, they can upgrade it to a felony if it was falsifying business records to conceal a secondary crime.

00:07:32.000 We still do not know what that secondary crime is.

00:07:37.000 There were three potential unlawful acts that may have occurred.

00:07:41.000 The judge instructed the jury that of those three, they do not need to be unanimous.

00:07:46.000 It could be Trump falsified business records in an effort to falsify other business... I'm not kidding.

00:07:51.000 Let me break this down.

00:07:53.000 The judge's instructions were basically, if Trump falsified business records, and you all agree that he did, We need to then figure out what unlawful means he was covering up with it.

00:08:07.000 You don't have to agree on that part.

00:08:09.000 We can surmise then that all the jurors agreed Trump did falsify these records or direct someone to do it.

00:08:17.000 But that's a misdemeanor!

00:08:18.000 We do not know right now.

00:08:20.000 It has not been revealed.

00:08:21.000 It has not been discussed.

00:08:23.000 It was not in the court case what secondary crime the jury believes Trump committed.

00:08:28.000 Now, the options the judge gave the jury was one.

00:08:32.000 Falsifying additional business records, two, federal election violations, and three, improper tax filings.

00:08:40.000 I think it's fairly obvious that it is likely the jury chose federal election violation because the prosecution stated in their closing arguments, this is a federal election violation.

00:08:53.000 That's a fact.

00:08:55.000 And when it was objected, the judge said, shut up.

00:08:58.000 This should never have been allowed.

00:08:59.000 The judge did not allow expert testimony on whether or not it actually was a federal election violation.

00:09:05.000 The prosecution just asserted it was, in closing arguments, and the judge allowed this.

00:09:10.000 But get this.

00:09:11.000 The judge actually said, in these instructions, and this is probably why the jury was confused, if you believe that Donald Trump A. falsified business records to conceal a secondary crime, and that secondary crime was falsifying other business records, then vote guilty.

00:09:29.000 And I'll consider that unanimous.

00:09:31.000 So just to clarify again, some of these jurors may actually think So Trump ordered Cohen to falsify these records so that he could cover up that he falsified other records.

00:09:42.000 Effectively, two misdemeanors that they're arguing when combined become a felony.

00:09:47.000 It's an absurdity.

00:09:50.000 But in the end, we still do not know.

00:09:52.000 Alvin Bragg held a press conference.

00:09:54.000 No one asked.

00:09:56.000 So we don't know how this became a felony at all.

00:10:03.000 This is just something that they said, it's definitely a felony, it's definitely a felony, and at no point they had to prove it.

00:10:08.000 And this is where it comes down like, on appeal we know that there's a lot of stuff that Trump's team could argue.

00:10:13.000 The legal theory behind this is so weirdly woven together, it's not really credible.

00:10:18.000 And it really seemed to me, from the outside perspective, that so much of it came down to what the judge was willing to allow.

00:10:25.000 I mean, obviously people talk about this all the time.

00:10:26.000 The judge has his own ties to supporting Biden.

00:10:28.000 His daughter has her own political activities.

00:10:31.000 But ultimately, it is completely crazy to me that the prosecutors didn't have to clearly present what felony Trump had apparently committed, what crime he was convicted of covering up, and yet we were allowed to try him.

00:10:47.000 How are you supposed to present it?

00:10:48.000 Three lawyers on the jury, too.

00:10:50.000 I want to make sure that this story is included in the segment so that in the event you end up sharing this segment with friends and family members, you can see this post from the New York Post.

00:10:59.000 CNN's Fareed Zakaria admits prosecutors would never have filed hush money charges against anyone whose name was not Trump.

00:11:07.000 And I'll play it for you.

00:11:08.000 Uniting behind Trump.

00:11:10.000 Whatever opposition he faced in the primaries has largely melted away.

00:11:14.000 And the trials against him keep him in the spotlight, infuriate his base, who sees him as a martyr, and even may serve to make him the object of some sympathy among people in general who believe that his prosecutors are politically motivated.

00:11:31.000 This happens to be true, in my opinion.

00:11:32.000 And I doubt the New York indictment would have been brought against a defendant whose

00:11:36.000 name was not Donald Trump.

00:11:49.000 It's unprecedented.

00:11:50.000 We don't know what this is about.

00:11:52.000 And CNN going as far as to say it is politically motivated and would not have been brought against anyone else.

00:11:59.000 That's the message you need to share with your friends and family.

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00:12:13.000 It's guys playing poker, but of course there's something called table talk.

00:12:16.000 With this big news, it's permeating everything.

00:12:19.000 And as soon as the show starts, one guy says, so what happened to Donald Trump today?

00:12:22.000 And they go, oh, he was guilty of felonies.

00:12:24.000 What did he do?

00:12:25.000 I don't know.

00:12:26.000 Is he going to jail?

00:12:26.000 Not so sure.

00:12:28.000 Regular people are only hearing that Trump was convicted. 0.96

00:12:31.000 He's a felon, blah, blah, blah.

00:12:32.000 And they have no idea what is actually happening.

00:12:36.000 This was likely the intention of the Democrats involved.

00:12:40.000 They know that the average person will not be paying attention to the finer details of how they lied, cheated, and stole their way into political power.

00:12:48.000 I think you're right.

00:12:49.000 I mean, there was a poll from, I think it was Emerson College, that they were saying basically 55% of Americans say they've not been closely following this trial at all.

00:12:58.000 But this is so meteoric that it's going to puncture through people who even are not interested in politics, right?

00:13:04.000 It's going to be unavoidable.

00:13:05.000 People are going to see the headline, Trump convicted, which is, I think, ultimately any sort of progressive activist's dream.

00:13:11.000 They want it to be like, but wasn't he convicted?

00:13:14.000 Because the immediate news headlines that I got hit with after was, can he still hold office?

00:13:18.000 It was crazy because yeah I barely paid attention to this either because I just thought it was so ridiculous it would get thrown out way before it got here and then finally I'm tuning in to watch like the verdict watch and then be right and then you see these pretty little red boom boom boom boom convicted convicted you know all this on the TV was almost like programming in my mind like this looks really bad but the more I listen to it it's like this actually doesn't make any sense at all.

00:13:46.000 No it's very weird.

00:13:47.000 Yeah, and you know, as a New Yorker, I really did, you know, as people were saying, oh, is he going to be able to get to get a fair jury?

00:13:54.000 I actually believed it could happen.

00:13:56.000 I mean, I know a good people, a number of people from New York who support Trump.

00:14:01.000 I think the majority of people in New York are a little bit oblivious when it comes to politics.

00:14:05.000 I think the people who really hate Trump are kind of a niche sect in general.

00:14:10.000 But when they came back and said 34, guilty on all 34 counts, I mean, that doesn't happen.

00:14:18.000 You know, if they had convicted on a few things and the jury said, you know, these were actually pretty confusing or we're not sure.

00:14:24.000 But I mean, a sweeping decision like that.

00:14:28.000 Really indicates that this was absolutely coming from a place of bias by the jurors.

00:14:33.000 I mean a hundred percent.

00:14:34.000 The key witnesses were a porn star who was looking for a payout.

00:14:37.000 And Cohen.

00:14:37.000 And a convicted tax evader who lied under oath and also admitted on the stand that he'd been stealing from Donald Trump during this whole thing.

00:14:44.000 Weren't they instructed to not take his testimony into account at the end?

00:14:48.000 Like don't listen.

00:14:49.000 The jury instructions were so bizarre.

00:14:52.000 I mean I just felt like they were very strange the whole time.

00:14:54.000 No wonder the jury had to come back today and say Because they weren't allowed to have a copy of the instructions, which they found very strange.

00:15:00.000 And then they had to come back today.

00:15:01.000 The request was filed last night.

00:15:03.000 They asked to go over a couple different points of the testimony, but they were also like, please read the instructions again.

00:15:10.000 Clearly, there's some kind of issue.

00:15:12.000 Let's jump to this next story.

00:15:12.000 This is from The Independent.

00:15:13.000 Trump fundraising site crashes after influx of donors following guilty verdict.

00:15:21.000 Guilty New York hush money verdict.

00:15:23.000 Former president had fundraised off legal troubles before.

00:15:26.000 Dan Scamino says that they're receiving the hug of death.

00:15:30.000 Too many people right now are trying to contribute to Donald Trump's campaign.

00:15:35.000 I will say this for the record, I have contributed the maximum allowed to his campaign the moment this happened.

00:15:43.000 I have not donated, as far as I know, I don't believe I've ever donated to Donald Trump before this, but this is absolutely too much.

00:15:50.000 But we do have other news.

00:15:52.000 This story shows They're raking in tons of dough.

00:15:56.000 Check this out.

00:15:58.000 Sean Maguire says, I just donated $300,000 to Trump.

00:16:03.000 He says, back in 2016, I had drunk the media Kool-Aid and was scared out of my mind about Trump.

00:16:09.000 As such, I donated to Hillary Clinton's campaign and voted for her.

00:16:12.000 By 2020, I was disillusioned and didn't vote.

00:16:14.000 I didn't like either option.

00:16:15.000 Now, in 2024, I believe this is one of the most important elections of my lifetime, and I'm supporting Trump.

00:16:22.000 I know that I'll lose friends for this.

00:16:24.000 Some will refuse to do business with me.

00:16:26.000 The media will probably demonize me, as they have so many others before me.

00:16:29.000 But despite this, I still believe it's the right thing to do.

00:16:32.000 I refuse to live in a society where people are afraid to speak.

00:16:37.000 Now, he wrote 10,000 words.

00:16:40.000 My radicalization towards the center.

00:16:43.000 Global instability.

00:16:44.000 Talking about the failed foreign policy.

00:16:45.000 Israel.

00:16:46.000 Double standards.

00:16:47.000 Take a look at this.

00:16:48.000 Classified documents.

00:16:49.000 Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Mike Pence, and Donald Trump were all caught with classified documents.

00:16:52.000 Only Trump was indicted.

00:16:54.000 Either it's a crime for all or none.

00:16:56.000 All of the arguments about quantity of documents or obstruction are distractions to justify double standard.

00:17:00.000 The border wall.

00:17:01.000 Remember how Trump was villainized for promoting a border wall?

00:17:04.000 Biden resumed building sections of it after pausing them, which legacy media has been very quiet about.

00:17:09.000 Election denialism.

00:17:10.000 Yes, Trump denied the 2020 election, but as we linked to above, so did Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden regarding 2016.

00:17:17.000 Corruption charges.

00:17:19.000 Every inch has been searched for Trump corruption while Joe Biden's involvement with foreign countries through Hunter have been swept under the rug.

00:17:26.000 Three strikes for thee, but not for me.

00:17:28.000 Joe Biden was the architect of the 1994 crime bill.

00:17:31.000 Crack cocaine in particular, the 1986 Anti-Drug Abuse Act, etc.

00:17:35.000 Lawfare.

00:17:36.000 He says the election interference case, the classified documents case, the Georgia interference case, the hush money case, bank fraud, sexual assault, all of these cases are too complicated for most to follow, almost by design.

00:17:47.000 As someone that has been following the cases closely, I've had the opposite reaction of what was intended.

00:17:53.000 Every single case seems to have had impropriety and B, after going through Trump's entire life, if these are the worst things they can find, he did less wrong than I otherwise would have assumed.

00:18:03.000 He goes on to mention that he disagrees on domestic policy and many other things.

00:18:06.000 Now, the curious thing is where exactly he's going to be putting his $300,000.

00:18:10.000 The assumption is into a super PAC.

00:18:12.000 You can't actually give the president that much money.

00:18:14.000 We have this tweet from Lee Zeldin, who posted, Just secured an $800,000 donation from someone

00:18:22.000 for President Trump's joint fundraising committee.

00:18:24.000 Never experienced a massive ask that easy.

00:18:28.000 And of course, I have this Dan Scamino saying, WinRed is down due to overwhelming support.

00:18:32.000 I don't know if this plan will work, but I will say, many people, the majority, when I asked, my Twitter

00:18:40.000 audience said, he wouldn't be convicted, though it was fairly close to 50-50.

00:18:44.000 and then he was.

00:18:46.000 When the Democrats see that their plan is not working, I believe it is likely they push for prison time, even if it is a year.

00:18:56.000 A small will say it's a first offense, but we think minimum security one year is warranted in this regard.

00:19:02.000 They're going to keep pushing because they have no other choice.

00:19:06.000 And then they'll freak out over the optics of Trump pardoning himself when he wins the election.

00:19:10.000 Well, he can't pardon himself on a state charge.

00:19:12.000 That's what I mean.

00:19:14.000 They're going to be like, if he were to win the election, he'd be like, he's in prison.

00:19:18.000 Now he's going to try and take over New York and do all these crazy things and appoints his AG.

00:19:22.000 It's going to be hysteria from the left for so long.

00:19:26.000 And I think what's interesting is, again, I'm going to go back to this Marist poll that I was referencing before.

00:19:30.000 They found that for 64% of voters, a conviction didn't matter.

00:19:34.000 It wouldn't change the way they're voting and that was even higher as over 70% among independents, right?

00:19:40.000 It's interesting that there's sort of the political class that is, this is really changing how they think they're going to lay out their roadmap for the rest of the year.

00:19:48.000 But for voters, they were already split.

00:19:51.000 You were kind of talking about this, like there might be some people are saying enough is enough.

00:19:54.000 I really need to back Donald Trump now.

00:19:56.000 But for the most part, people feel as though their minds are made up.

00:19:58.000 And so it really feels to me like a lot of this is just to try and slow Trump down.

00:20:03.000 It just reminds me of when he was giving that speech about Venezuela, like, 2016, maybe a little bit before that.

00:20:10.000 It was just like, whenever he said he was the only one standing in between them and us, and they're throwing everything they can at this guy, and that's just terrifying me, because, I mean, anyone else... This is a system that will be left if this continues.

00:20:26.000 Well, that's the whole thing, is that they, for three, four years now, they've been normalizing Pushing the boundary, pushing the boundary, pushing the boundary.

00:20:36.000 And if this is allowed to stand, and if he doesn't win the election for some reason, this is just the new normal now.

00:20:43.000 And for any Republican who ever tries to run again, this is what the Democrats will do.

00:20:49.000 And they'll have them charged in some jurisdiction in which they're guaranteed some sort of victory.

00:20:56.000 And this is how we'll have to deal with Democrats now.

00:21:00.000 And I have to think for the average American, this is disheartening, right?

00:21:03.000 Basically, New York is controlling your election.

00:21:06.000 So if you're from, you know, North Dakota, you're from, you know, New Mexico, whatever, like, this city, basically, this state government decided what was going to happen for the election, you must not feel like you're actually represented.

00:21:18.000 How is this not election interference?

00:21:21.000 It is!

00:21:22.000 What is their excuse?

00:21:25.000 Everything they claim Trump would do, they do.

00:21:27.000 And Trump doesn't.

00:21:29.000 They're saying Trump is the greatest threat to our democracy.

00:21:32.000 I'm pretty sure arresting, charging, and trying to imprison your political rivals and the frontrunner for the 2020... 0.98

00:21:39.000 The arguments they're making, well, Trump is a criminal.

00:21:41.000 The American people want him to be president. 0.82

00:21:43.000 He's winning in all the polls.

00:21:45.000 He's up 10 points, 12 points among independent voters, according to the latest poll from Marist, PBS.

00:21:51.000 The American people, knowing everything, have said over and over again, yeah, he's going to be my pick come November.

00:21:56.000 So Trump has said the real, the real trial, the real verdict will be November when people vote.

00:22:02.000 I hope so.

00:22:03.000 I want to shout out Inez Stepman, who said, we now live in a country where the loser of the next election is going to jail.

00:22:09.000 It's true.

00:22:11.000 Whoever loses in November will go to jail.

00:22:16.000 Assuming Biden has the health in November, he's very old, if Biden loses, the AG gets appointed, they start digging through Biden's crimes, the Clintons and all of that, and they're going to go to jail.

00:22:32.000 Unless, for some reason, Trump just says, no, no, we're not going to lock him up like he did last time.

00:22:37.000 We better not do that.

00:22:39.000 I think Trump might be in jail before he loses.

00:22:42.000 Yeah.

00:22:42.000 I think the Biden campaign is really going to lean into this.

00:22:45.000 He is a criminal.

00:22:46.000 He's been convicted narrative. 0.96

00:22:48.000 Like you're going to hear that for the rest of the summer over.

00:22:50.000 I mean, that was their statement released, right?

00:22:52.000 They had a similar the Biden Harris campaign at this.

00:22:55.000 Well, it really matters what happens in November. 0.95

00:22:57.000 But anyways, the presumptive Republican nominee is a criminal. 0.91

00:23:01.000 So that's interesting. 0.98

00:23:01.000 Like it's it's going to be insufferable. 0.98

00:23:03.000 It's going to be unbearable.

00:23:05.000 On the other hand, I wonder how much more they have in them, right?

00:23:10.000 Like, you have convicted Trump, you're going to put him in jail, and you still can't win the independent voters.

00:23:15.000 In fact, it seems like you're driving the independent voters right into his arms.

00:23:18.000 They took something from, like, before 2016 to turn it into a crime and retroactively make him a criminal.

00:23:25.000 Right, this is two elections ago.

00:23:28.000 And it took place after he was already elected.

00:23:29.000 That's crazy.

00:23:31.000 Right, but they're calling it election interference. 0.66

00:23:33.000 And it was already determined to not be a crime.

00:23:36.000 The Federal Elections Commission and the Department of Justice both said there was no crime.

00:23:41.000 So the number three guy in the DOJ resigns, goes to New York, takes a job just to prosecute Trump.

00:23:47.000 Probably because his bosses said, no, there's nothing here.

00:23:50.000 Right, because this has been turned down multiple times before.

00:23:53.000 Trump was saying this when he was delivering remarks before today.

00:23:58.000 This morning, he was saying like, this isn't a crime, but even if it was, it should have been brought before 2019.

00:24:04.000 But conveniently, they held off until we're in the middle of a presidential election.

00:24:08.000 But they're also telling you it's not political. 0.98

00:24:10.000 How stupid do they think the American public, even Americans who don't support Trump, at a certain point, you know this is political just given the timing. 0.99

00:24:19.000 Right. 1.00

00:24:20.000 It's like, who's this guy in the news just catching all these charges over and over again and still not in jail?

00:24:24.000 That's crazy.

00:24:25.000 Who is this?

00:24:26.000 Yeah.

00:24:27.000 There's more to come.

00:24:29.000 Obviously, it doesn't stop here.

00:24:29.000 We've got the Georgia case.

00:24:30.000 We have the documents case.

00:24:32.000 Now, it seems like Judge Cannon, that's the documents case, right, is actually basically pushing back on these corrupt Democrats, like, no, you can't do these things.

00:24:42.000 We'll see how that ends up working out, because this is a You know, there are a lot of people posting things about civil war or war and conflict.

00:24:50.000 Whoever had the bet that it would take 24 minutes, congratulations.

00:24:54.000 I don't know what square you bet on.

00:24:55.000 People were saying, how soon until an episode will Tim say civil war?

00:24:58.000 But there's a lot of people who are pointing this out.

00:25:01.000 The Democrats know they can't win.

00:25:04.000 They're privately freaking out.

00:25:07.000 Politico had the story just the other day, and so they're just going to try and stop Trump in any way imaginable.

00:25:13.000 They're on TV smiling and laughing, saying, this is how we win.

00:25:17.000 I think people on the right and regular working-class Americans who don't pay much attention do not understand the plague of evil that exists in this country of people in power who hate you, don't care to play fair, they want to win, and then they want to spit on you and tell you that they will do anything to maintain power, and your rules are meaningless.

00:25:37.000 I'll give you an example.

00:25:39.000 I knew a guy who was very big in a protest during Occupy, and we were all arguing for free speech.

00:25:46.000 We all said we believed in free speech. 1.00

00:25:47.000 And then seven or eight years later, now he's Antifa, and I'm talking to him, and he's laughing, saying, you're an idiot. 1.00

00:25:54.000 You didn't understand, did you? 1.00

00:25:56.000 We only agreed with you because you were helping us get power.

00:25:59.000 When we protest and you defended our free speech, we, of course, agreed with you because you were giving us power.

00:26:05.000 Now that we have the power to go out and do what we want, we're laughing at you and you can't do anything about it.

00:26:10.000 That's how they view this.

00:26:12.000 So when they go on TV, when Fareed Zakaria says, this is only because it's Donald Trump, and then other people on CNN are like, well, this is a good thing, isn't it?

00:26:20.000 They're telling you outright.

00:26:22.000 They want power.

00:26:24.000 They'll take it by force.

00:26:25.000 They're not here to play fair.

00:26:27.000 But let's jump to the next story because we have a statement from the Biden-Harris campaign.

00:26:33.000 I love how they call it the Biden-Harris campaign because they have to do that because they expect Joe Biden to hand off power to Kamala Harris at some point.

00:26:39.000 She's still relevant.

00:26:41.000 Yep.

00:26:41.000 The Biden-Harris campaign statement on today's... They keep saying it Biden-Harris.

00:26:44.000 Isn't that funny though?

00:26:46.000 Like, we call it the Trump campaign.

00:26:48.000 You call it the Clinton campaign.

00:26:49.000 Right.

00:26:50.000 Who did she have? 0.55

00:26:51.000 Tim Kaine?

00:26:52.000 Was that her running mate?

00:26:53.000 See, it's so irrelevant.

00:26:54.000 Exactly!

00:26:55.000 We never brought it up!

00:26:56.000 Anyway, here's the quote.

00:26:57.000 They also refer to it as the Biden-Harris administration.

00:26:59.000 Right, here's the quote.

00:27:00.000 In New York today, we saw that no one is above the law.

00:27:03.000 Donald Trump has always mistakenly believed he would never face consequences for breaking the law for his own personal gain.

00:27:09.000 But today's verdict does not change the fact that the American people face a simple reality.

00:27:14.000 There is still only one way to keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office at the ballot box.

00:27:18.000 Convicted felon or not, Trump will be the Republican nominee for president.

00:27:23.000 The threat Trump poses to our democracy has never been greater.

00:27:26.000 He is running an increasingly unhinged campaign of revenge and retribution, pledging to be a dictator on day one, and calling for our Constitution to be terminated so we can regain and keep power.

00:27:37.000 A second Trump term means chaos, ripping away Americans' freedoms, and fomenting political violence, and the American people will reject it this November.

00:27:45.000 The fascinating thing is, The only way you believe this is if you don't pay attention.

00:27:51.000 Anyone, like we saw with that gentleman, Sean McGuire, I think, who was donating to the Trump campaign, he said he bought the Kool-Aid.

00:27:58.000 He bought into it.

00:28:00.000 He voted for Hillary Clinton.

00:28:00.000 He believed what they said.

00:28:02.000 Same.

00:28:02.000 He started paying attention to what was going on and then realizing what they're saying doesn't make any sense, actually.

00:28:08.000 These things are not true.

00:28:09.000 Trump has never called for terminating the Constitution.

00:28:12.000 That's a lie.

00:28:13.000 That's just absolutely a lie.

00:28:15.000 He never said he would be a dictator on day one.

00:28:18.000 What was asked of him, I believe it was Kennedy, said, will you be a dictator?

00:28:21.000 It was only on day one so that I can say drill.

00:28:24.000 And what was the other thing, like secure the border or something?

00:28:28.000 I don't even think it was that.

00:28:29.000 It was like an economic thing.

00:28:31.000 He's asked if he'll be a dictator.

00:28:33.000 He says, only relating to drilling for oil or whatever the answer was.

00:28:38.000 They stripped the context out.

00:28:40.000 They lied and claimed that Donald Trump—this is Joe Biden, his whole campaign, his whole path—claimed that Donald Trump called neo-Nazis very fine people.

00:28:48.000 Never happened.

00:28:49.000 Not once.

00:28:50.000 And in your instance, you know better than anyone, they lied and claimed Donald Trump mocked a disabled reporter.

00:28:55.000 Disabled reporter.

00:28:56.000 Yeah, but you're right.

00:28:57.000 Joe Biden announced his run for president based on the lie about Charlottesville that he knew was a lie.

00:29:05.000 And he knew a significant number of people in his base didn't know it was a lie and was completely willing to manipulate that.

00:29:11.000 And here we are, all these years later, he's still manipulating every single lie.

00:29:16.000 He's still going into the black community constantly telling them that, you know, Donald Trump is out to get you, Donald Trump.

00:29:22.000 Oh, you think things are bad?

00:29:23.000 They're going to get so much worse under Donald Trump.

00:29:26.000 You said a second ago a plague of evil on this country.

00:29:29.000 I'm not a religious guy.

00:29:30.000 I think a lot of people are going to start going back to church after what's going on right now.

00:29:34.000 I mean, there is truly a force of evil that has overtaken our country right now.

00:29:40.000 Let's ask Chet GPT.

00:29:42.000 For all of those who may have stumbled upon this who don't know, I asked it right here.

00:29:45.000 Did Donald Trump call Nazis very fine people?

00:29:48.000 Let's see what it says.

00:29:48.000 Maybe you'll get it wrong.

00:29:50.000 No, Donald Trump did not explicitly call Nazis very fine people.

00:29:53.000 He made a controversial statement during a press conference about the Charlottesville rally where he said there were very fine people on both sides, but he also condemned neo-Nazis and white nationalists in the same statement.

00:30:03.000 Fascinating.

00:30:04.000 For those of you that are just tuning in or not very into politics, how did you not know that?

00:30:10.000 You're watching the news.

00:30:11.000 They told you it was true.

00:30:12.000 Is Chet GPT making this up?

00:30:14.000 I just asked it right now in real time.

00:30:16.000 Certainly, it must be an error in the programming.

00:30:20.000 No, the reality is Trump never said it.

00:30:22.000 In the same breath, Trump said there were people who just didn't want to see a statue torn down, very fine people on both sides, including Antifa, including the people who wanted the statues.

00:30:33.000 And he says, but not the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists. 0.63

00:30:36.000 They should be condemned totally. 0.67

00:30:38.000 Yet here is the Biden administration once again lying about all of it.

00:30:44.000 I think this is another example of the Biden administration trying to redirect the American public's attention towards something that allows them to be on the attack, right?

00:30:52.000 They can spend all day being like, well, Trump said this and he's so bad.

00:30:56.000 You know, he said this was a windshield and it's definitely not, which questionable, but It makes the media about focusing on perceived wrongs from Donald Trump instead of having to hold Biden to account for the economy, hold Biden to account for the border, hold Biden to account for our declining birth rate and our terrible education system.

00:31:14.000 Like anything that voters really, really care about.

00:31:19.000 Donald Trump's campaign has to, but the Biden campaign can focus on specifically attacking Donald Trump when actually he's the incumbent who has a terrible record right now.

00:31:31.000 He should be the one having to defend all of this stuff.

00:31:33.000 And instead, all of the media is like, no, we won't ask him any hard questions.

00:31:38.000 We are just going to focus on our number one enemy at all times, Donald Trump.

00:31:42.000 Right, it's crazy because they're not really giving any actual solutions to like, well, if it's not Donald Trump, who is it going to be on their side at least?

00:31:49.000 I'll just ask everybody listening right now.

00:31:53.000 How's the economy going for you?

00:31:55.000 Most people are not doing too well.

00:31:57.000 Most people believe we are in a recession.

00:32:00.000 They say, based on the math, we're not.

00:32:02.000 But that's funny.

00:32:03.000 I wonder why people think we are.

00:32:05.000 Perhaps it's because the economy is not doing too well.

00:32:08.000 Come November, you have a choice.

00:32:11.000 The question is, who would you rather be in charge of the economy at its worst, right now, Joe Biden or Donald Trump?

00:32:19.000 Most people have an obvious answer.

00:32:21.000 The funny thing is, the first and second biggest issues, they go back and forth, immigration and the economy.

00:32:26.000 According to Gallup, the single biggest issue, single issue, immigration.

00:32:33.000 Economics as a whole, yeah, it's bigger, but that's just generic.

00:32:38.000 The economy in general, as a question, 17% said the most important issue.

00:32:44.000 27% said immigration.

00:32:46.000 Well, I tell you this, if those are the things you care about, Trump's the only guy.

00:32:50.000 I mean, you're not going to pick Biden to lead the charge against those things, are you?

00:32:53.000 No, I don't think he would.

00:32:54.000 He created the problems.

00:32:55.000 Yeah.

00:32:55.000 Brandon, do you think that these kind of kitchen table issues, like the economy, like the border, like things that people talk about in their homes with their families, are Things that inspire people to leave the Democratic Party or to move from independent to more engaged in conservative issues?

00:33:08.000 I think so.

00:33:09.000 I mean, I think that depending on what's happening culturally, there are different reasons.

00:33:13.000 I mean, we had the biggest influx of people in 2020 that we ever had, and that was largely because of what BLM was doing and because of the COVID lockdowns.

00:33:21.000 So different issues affect different people, you know, differently, obviously.

00:33:26.000 But like, if you look right now, Every sect of people are claiming economy, border, these are the things that are most important to them, except white women who care more about abortion than anything else. 0.65

00:33:40.000 No other issue is more important to them than abortion.

00:33:43.000 Now these are the same people that are calling everybody else privileged.

00:33:47.000 And screaming at everybody how there's this privilege hierarchy that they don't get to enjoy.

00:33:53.000 But I think to myself, how privileged do you have to be if you don't even care about the economy going to hell, if you don't care about our border going to hell, but the most important issue in your life is whether or not you can abort a baby?

00:34:03.000 Right.

00:34:04.000 That's privilege.

00:34:04.000 What is going on with liberal white women?

00:34:06.000 I always wonder this.

00:34:07.000 That's privilege.

00:34:08.000 I think all of this is, again, part of the issue, right?

00:34:12.000 Nobody can pay attention to everything, right?

00:34:14.000 No one's going to have an opinion on everything.

00:34:16.000 If you do, you probably are not in touch with some other aspect of your life.

00:34:20.000 But there are certain issues that I think either you feel really strong about because

00:34:24.000 of personal experience or you are repeatedly told this is your demographics issue and if

00:34:31.000 you don't talk about it all the time, then you are doing a disservice.

00:34:34.000 So with women, I think this idea that not letting women abort their babies is an attack 0.99

00:34:39.000 on women's freedom and it's going to make us all go back to the kitchen and do whatever, 1.00

00:34:43.000 that is completely misrepresented and in fact is emotionally charged, right?

00:34:48.000 It's playing on the guilt and the herd mentality that women tend to have to make them line 1.00

00:34:53.000 up under a certain ideology as opposed to encouraging them to critically look at their

00:34:56.000 lives and say what are the issues most affecting you?

00:34:58.000 Oh wait, it's very difficult to afford to be alive right now.

00:35:01.000 Maybe you should put that above this concept of abortion, which most of you won't have to deal with ever.

00:35:06.000 Well, and I'll say too, because the question you had for me is the kitchen table issues and things like that.

00:35:11.000 Right now, I think more than any other group in America, there is a large awakening happening within the black community.

00:35:17.000 I think disproportionately, mostly this group.

00:35:20.000 And if you look at why, It's a lot of black men, but it's also mothers, black mothers, who are seeing that their neighborhoods are now being invaded by illegal migrants.

00:35:32.000 There is no safe place for their kids to go.

00:35:34.000 The community centers, the YMCAs, the rec halls, the places where their kids could go play basketball, engage in activities, stay off the street, stay out of gangs.

00:35:43.000 They're filling these places now with illegal migrants, and the kids who live in the neighborhoods are being thrown back out on the streets again. 0.80

00:35:50.000 People are starting to get it.

00:35:51.000 And the Black community, who's been manipulated for so long, is now starting to see, too, they were just using us. 1.00

00:35:58.000 And now that they have this, like, new class of people that they're bringing in is obviously meant to be their new base they're going to replace the Black community with. 1.00

00:36:05.000 People are waking up and they're getting it.

00:36:06.000 And so I think when it hits home, when it hits their own communities and their own neighborhoods, that is absolutely something that's waking up a lot of people.

00:36:13.000 I think that's a big reason why there's a story, which actually we'll get to in a little bit, where they're claiming that Trump said a racial slur and the video is somewhere but no one's ever seen it.

00:36:24.000 They've been hunting for it for years.

00:36:26.000 They are terrified that Trump's polls are actually improving among the black vote.

00:36:30.000 When you look at the black vote, particularly 49 and under, It ranges from like 23 to 29 percent, depending on the poll.

00:36:38.000 When you poll the black community 50 years and older, it's around 9 percent.

00:36:44.000 So it's actually, Trump's doing really well with younger people in the black community.

00:36:48.000 When you average it all out, it's hard to tell how well he's actually doing.

00:36:52.000 Some polls say he's up 20 percent, some say 15.

00:36:54.000 We won't know for sure.

00:36:56.000 We'll see, though.

00:36:57.000 But I do want to jump to a funny tweet, and we'll bring some levity to the situation.

00:37:02.000 We have this tweet from DJ Academics.

00:37:05.000 He said, Donald Trump getting found guilty on 34 felony counts for paying off his sidehoe

00:37:10.000 makes me want to vote for debt and word even more not even gonna lie.

00:37:15.000 Well, if that's gonna do it for you, I don't care.

00:37:19.000 I appreciate you voting for Donald Trump, and we will accept it.

00:37:23.000 I didn't think that was going to be the principal issue.

00:37:26.000 This guy's got 2 million views already.

00:37:27.000 He posted this three hours ago.

00:37:29.000 9,300 retweets, 65,000 likes.

00:37:34.000 If the issue that gets people to vote for Donald Trump is that he got convicted on 34 counts for paying off his side hoe— Allegedly. 0.99

00:37:42.000 I'll take it.

00:37:43.000 I'll take it.

00:37:45.000 So when I go out and say, I am concerned about the economy in World War III, and you say, man, they try to lock him up for paying up his side hoe, I'd be like, well, as long as we agree to vote for him, whatever motivates you in the morning, I guess. 0.98

00:37:56.000 Look, nobody likes any sort of justice system, right?

00:37:59.000 Like, if you feel like you might be the victim of it, You don't like it.

00:38:03.000 I think they're weirdly making him more relatable to tons of people who feel as though if they were to walk into a courtroom, it would be used against them always.

00:38:10.000 So, you know, whatever you perceive this to be, I think, weirdly, it has made him a man of the people in a way that media did not.

00:38:18.000 100%.

00:38:19.000 And I was really going to say just about the same thing.

00:38:22.000 I mean, I think that for groups of people who have been saying for decades and generations that they feel like they're being targeted by the justice system and crying for criminal justice reform and supporting the party that actually is weaponizing the criminal justice system, I think they're looking at someone like Donald Trump and thinking to themselves, This guy gets it.

00:38:46.000 I'm sure he's literally getting it, and now he probably gets it.

00:38:49.000 And if I were somebody who felt like I was a part of a community that is being targeted by the justice system, I would want to vote for the person who has the justice system weaponized, pointed directly at them, who could potentially then go in there and do something about it and actually make the change.

00:39:05.000 Yeah, who feels how critical it is.

00:39:07.000 Right.

00:39:08.000 Yeah, I don't think he's going to forget all of these constant I think this is the weird thing about this whole situation.

00:39:15.000 So, I agree.

00:39:17.000 I think this is the weird thing about this whole situation.

00:39:21.000 Trump is ultimately sort of this, uh...

00:39:25.000 Anti-hero.

00:39:27.000 Anti-hero, always.

00:39:28.000 Like, was this the Dave Chappelle thing where he was like, he was inside the house, came out and said, hey, they're using all the secrets against you and whatever.

00:39:36.000 And then he went back into the house.

00:39:38.000 And with not winning the 2020 election, like, then he is once again the outsider.

00:39:42.000 He is both a former president who is now trying to go back to the White House and For a lot of people, it really reinforces this narrative that he is not of this system, like he's not a political elite.

00:39:56.000 I remember before he launched his campaign, his re-election campaign, people were sort of saying, well, now he's a politician.

00:40:01.000 He's been on the inside.

00:40:04.000 The inside clearly doesn't like him if this is how they're treating him.

00:40:06.000 No one's doing him any favors.

00:40:08.000 No one seems to be welcoming him into the political race.

00:40:11.000 It seems like at every turn there's an obstacle for Donald Trump.

00:40:14.000 And I think American people who feel so disenfranchised and who feel a certain level of hopelessness, who feel like their lives are just constantly getting harder and harder, whether it be economic issues or social issues or whatever it is, He is relatable, despite the fact that he's a billionaire who's married to a former supermodel.

00:40:32.000 Well, and Donald Trump has also kind of made it like badass to stand up to the system, you know, in a way.

00:40:40.000 I'm one of many people who took a plea deal with January 6th, and now I kind of wish I could go back and just stand up to the system in a way because I think we keep looking to him like, what is going to be the thing that pushes him over the edge?

00:40:54.000 What is going to be the thing that kind of brings Trump down?

00:40:57.000 But nothing ever does.

00:41:00.000 It's like he kind of shows us and teaches us in a way how you just roll with the punches and you keep going and you stand up and you fight another day and you keep going and you keep going.

00:41:09.000 There's something really inspiring, I think, and really cool about the way that even though we all know the system is targeted against him or has targeted him, That he kind of – he comes out like a boss every time.

00:41:21.000 He comes out as really authentic in my opinion.

00:41:23.000 I think part of it is that the Biden administration seems to keep Biden distant from everyone.

00:41:29.000 I had seen this report from a White House reporter who said there will be weeks that go by and Biden will be boarding the helicopters or whatever else and he won't say anything to them.

00:41:38.000 They don't get a lot of public FaceTime with him.

00:41:41.000 Despite the fact that they tried to be like, well, he was Obama's best friend and look, he's got grandchildren.

00:41:46.000 They tried to make him relatable.

00:41:48.000 He ultimately is very distant from the American people.

00:41:51.000 And I think the last couple of years have only reinforced that.

00:41:54.000 And, you know, say what you want about how he talks about things, but Trump is the first person to speak on his own behalf.

00:42:01.000 He wants to be in front of the cameras, in front of the courtroom saying things.

00:42:04.000 He wants to be the one that you hear from directly.

00:42:06.000 And it just, again, if you're the American people feeling kind of hopeless, feeling kind of lost right now, You wouldn't want the guy who's kind of hiding away in Delaware, you would want the guy who is like, I am on the front lines like all of you.

00:42:17.000 But he seems relatively unfazed by all of it.

00:42:20.000 You know, I mean, none of it really, if there are moments behind closed doors where he feels in any way kind of brought down by this, we never see that.

00:42:29.000 And I think that's really cool.

00:42:30.000 I mean, he seems kind of just, yeah, yeah, yeah, here we go.

00:42:34.000 You know what I mean?

00:42:35.000 When he's coming out and speaking.

00:42:37.000 There is the new conspiracy theory That is, because conspiracy theorists, they gotta have one.

00:42:43.000 Trump's in on it.

00:42:44.000 And it's all meant to rally the country around him to unify the country and prevent it from falling apart.

00:42:49.000 And he's part of the deep state and whatever, blah, blah, blah.

00:42:52.000 And I'm like, let me just tell you guys, it's not like I know any of them well.

00:42:56.000 I mean, we've had Trump Jr.

00:42:58.000 on a couple times.

00:42:59.000 Yeah, that's not the case there.

00:43:02.000 But I see people tweeting like, he's a part of it.

00:43:05.000 It's a trick.

00:43:06.000 They're trying to trick you and blah, blah, blah.

00:43:08.000 No.

00:43:09.000 These are the people who think he's still president and he's still running the country.

00:43:12.000 No, no, no.

00:43:14.000 These people don't like him.

00:43:16.000 Oh.

00:43:17.000 Yeah.

00:43:18.000 Now I'm really confused.

00:43:19.000 Yeah, there are people posting on X that he's part of a scam, he's friends with everybody, and he's another deep state guy, but they're pretending like he's not.

00:43:27.000 There's always going to be a conspiracy theory.

00:43:29.000 There's got to be one.

00:43:30.000 So this is like Blue Anon.

00:43:32.000 Yeah.

00:43:32.000 That's saying this.

00:43:33.000 Well, it's interesting because they're like keeping him off the campaign trail, but they're still letting him say as much as he possibly wants to on TV.

00:43:41.000 I just, I just think that they view it, they have no choice.

00:43:44.000 They're sitting there going, yeah, this is going to blow up in our faces, but we literally have no other options.

00:43:49.000 So let's cross our fingers.

00:43:50.000 It's like, hey, we got a 5% chance to win or we give up.

00:43:53.000 And they're like, take the 5%. 0.74

00:43:55.000 Well, and it keeps the attention off the Biden administration. 0.67

00:43:59.000 Like, he is absorbing all these blows, and we all look to him.

00:44:01.000 And I was about to say, well, Trump sets the news, but also it only helps Biden to, again, like I said before, have Trump be the one who has to answer all the questions, whatever else.

00:44:10.000 Like, I saw this report today, Phil sent it to me, that apparently there's some unconfirmed reports that the Biden administration has authorized Ukraine to use U.S.

00:44:18.000 weapons to attack Russia.

00:44:20.000 Like, that's an escalation, but we have such a crazy domestic situation going on, all eyes are on that.

00:44:25.000 Of course, why not?

00:44:26.000 On the other hand, what is the Biden administration doing while they keep saying, don't you see how bad Donald Trump is? 0.98

00:44:32.000 He is the worst. 0.92

00:44:33.000 Look over there.

00:44:34.000 Don't ask us any questions about the last four years and don't ask any questions about what we're doing.

00:44:39.000 Again, to me, it just makes them seem more authentic and more corrupt.

00:44:44.000 Yep.

00:44:45.000 Both.

00:44:46.000 Yeah, I have nothing to say to that. 0.92

00:44:47.000 But corrupt.

00:44:49.000 You should take us contrary opinion and like somehow defend Joe Biden just so the show stays interesting.

00:44:54.000 We've got November.

00:44:57.000 And until then, we need to be registering people to vote, telling people to vote.

00:45:03.000 I'll put it this way.

00:45:05.000 People are donating to Donald Trump in large numbers right now.

00:45:08.000 There's only so much that money can do.

00:45:10.000 It's a good thing.

00:45:11.000 He can use it.

00:45:11.000 But Trump's never been the guy who needs that kind of money to win a campaign.

00:45:15.000 He's really good at getting attention.

00:45:17.000 So the question then becomes, what can you do beyond donating for the people that already did, especially?

00:45:22.000 And it's going to be campaign.

00:45:25.000 It's going to be talking to your friends and family.

00:45:27.000 It's going to be sharing these videos with them.

00:45:30.000 The Fareed Zakaria thing, I think, is the most important thing.

00:45:33.000 Because when they're just like, oh, he was coming to be like, even CNN said that this is not a real case.

00:45:38.000 And when they go, that's not true.

00:45:39.000 Be like, I don't know.

00:45:40.000 I was just watching CNN.

00:45:41.000 Here's the video.

00:45:43.000 And then have them confront Fareed Zakaria saying outright, this would not have been brought against anybody else.

00:45:48.000 Yeah, for, I mean, like, with Facebook friends and stuff, for the longest time I was kind of afraid to say anything because I didn't want to be ostracized by, like, friends that were, you know, had opposite political views.

00:45:58.000 But at this point, and I tweeted this earlier, it's like, if you don't see it, if you don't see behind the curtain now, you have to look harder or they're going to shut it forever.

00:46:07.000 It really is no other way.

00:46:09.000 I would say at this point, anyone who's not seeing it is choosing not to.

00:46:16.000 You know, I think during the COVID lockdowns and 2016, there are people who deep down inside

00:46:24.000 think these people are really, really bad, but if I speak out against them, they will

00:46:29.000 destroy me. 0.52

00:46:31.000 So they just go along with it.

00:46:32.000 They go along with the lockdowns.

00:46:33.000 There's a viral video from the lockdowns where a guy who's wearing a mask is harassing a woman who's not wearing a mask in a supermarket, and he's screaming, how come we all have to wear masks and she doesn't?

00:46:44.000 And that really exemplifies how many people behave and feel like children.

00:46:50.000 And so when it comes to The machine.

00:46:52.000 And I think that's where the rage comes from, because I've had political conversations with people and they've gotten really angry, angrier and angrier.

00:47:00.000 And I think the reason they're getting angry is that deep down they know they're wrong, but they're scared that if they say what's true, they'll get attacked for it.

00:47:08.000 So in their minds, they're like, just go along with the mob and you will be safe.

00:47:13.000 And I have no fear of the mob.

00:47:14.000 So I'm sitting in public saying, no, Trump's better.

00:47:16.000 You're wrong.

00:47:17.000 And they're freaking out because they're like, I can't say that.

00:47:19.000 I'll get fired from my job.

00:47:21.000 I mean, even now you've got that guy who donated $300K, likely to some kind of Trump PAC or fundraising committee, saying, I could lose friends and an opportunity over this.

00:47:31.000 I think many other people just said, okay, at some point, and we're ready to give that stuff up.

00:47:37.000 I also wonder if you maybe won't, like you might lose some of your friends, right?

00:47:41.000 Some people will be like, that guy's awful.

00:47:43.000 But I think, at least in my experience, especially as I've done more stuff with IRL and sort of talk more openly about the things I believe in, it is interesting to see how many people are like, It's all purple now.

00:47:54.000 Like, I don't like Biden.

00:47:57.000 I don't like Trump.

00:47:58.000 But things are bad.

00:47:58.000 Like, they can see things for what they are and just saying like, I can't continue down this path and I won't support it.

00:48:04.000 I think people are more open to that.

00:48:06.000 now than they were in 2016 and 2020, because you can't explain away why your grocery bills are so high, and you can't explain away why crime is on the rise.

00:48:16.000 The level of uncertainty that people feel, the instability that people instinctively feel, I think it makes them more open to the idea that, yes, you may not like Trump, but we just can't continue with the way things are.

00:48:29.000 Right.

00:48:29.000 And to circle back, I think the point I was trying to make was that You just gotta start openly saying like, yeah, this is what I think, and if, I mean, think of me what you want, but, um...

00:48:42.000 Did you have a hard time with that, Brandon?

00:48:43.000 Because that's basically what you had to start doing.

00:48:45.000 Well, yeah.

00:48:45.000 I mean, when I had my political epiphany, that would have been early 2017, it was a full year later before I started WalkAway.

00:48:55.000 And I actually started WalkAway because of the experience that I had.

00:48:59.000 Not the walkaway experience, but the experience of, I lost about 90% of my friends in 2017.

00:49:06.000 I kept searching the internet for people who had had the same experience as I truly thought

00:49:12.000 I was losing my mind.

00:49:13.000 I like, I literally thought I was like becoming mentally ill because I'm like, who does a

00:49:17.000 complete reversal of just about everything that they've ever believed?

00:49:21.000 Total lifelong liberal, total lifelong Democrat.

00:49:24.000 And I was starting to see like piece by piece, bit by bit that just about everything that

00:49:29.000 I believed was not true.

00:49:31.000 It was some sort of false narrative.

00:49:32.000 It was a lie.

00:49:33.000 It was some sort of leftist myth.

00:49:37.000 And so I started questioning everything.

00:49:38.000 Like, did we land on the moon?

00:49:39.000 I went back to the drawing board with literally everything that I had ever been told in my entire life.

00:49:44.000 And as I was doing it, all of my friends started attacking me and walking out of my life.

00:49:50.000 And I couldn't find other people who were having the same experience I was having, but I knew they had to be out there.

00:49:56.000 And that's why in May of 2018, I made that video and I put it out and I just created a Facebook group.

00:50:02.000 And I said, look, if anyone else is feeling the same way I'm feeling, Share your stories.

00:50:06.000 Join our group.

00:50:07.000 Be a part of our community.

00:50:08.000 And in two and a half years, we had over half a million people join our community and literally acquired tens of thousands of videos and written testimonials of people having this experience.

00:50:18.000 And then Facebook banned us because we became so successful.

00:50:21.000 We've since relaunched a new group.

00:50:23.000 So if anybody's out there, join our new Facebook group and join our app, WalkAway Social, because we're rebuilding the community.

00:50:29.000 Let's jump to this story from Mediaite.

00:50:31.000 Sean Davis, the CEO and co-founder of the right-wing website The Federalist, called on Republicans to drop a list of Democrats to put in prison after Trump's conviction.

00:50:40.000 John Davis, the CEO and co-founder of the right-wing website The Federalist, called

00:50:44.000 on Republicans to drop a list of Democrats to put in prison after Trump's conviction.

00:50:48.000 He's saying, in 2016, the presidential race was decided based on candidates releasing

00:50:53.000 lists of potential Supreme Court nominees.

00:50:55.000 In 2024, I want to see lists of which Democrat officials are going to be put in prison.

00:51:00.000 This is what happens when you cross the Rubicon.

00:51:03.000 I think many people are saying this may be, the conviction of Donald Trump could be the crossing of the Rubicon by Democrats.

00:51:11.000 No, I think it's the evidence that the Rubicon got crossed a long time ago.

00:51:17.000 And perhaps it was when they brought the criminal charges in the first place.

00:51:21.000 When they decided to make these moves to use the legal system to try and steal power in an election, that's when they crossed the Rubicon.

00:51:29.000 The conviction of Donald Trump is when they actively started fighting.

00:51:33.000 So there's a big difference.

00:51:35.000 But a lot of people responded to the saying, actions meet consequences.

00:51:39.000 Why would not Republicans decide they want to put Democrats in jail?

00:51:45.000 I don't understand why they wouldn't.

00:51:46.000 I mean, first off, Let the man talk, free speech.

00:51:50.000 If he wants to make a list, that's great.

00:51:51.000 I think part of the issue here is people want to take something that feels so wrong, like people who feel as though this trial was founded on terrible ideas, brought at the wrong time, people who believe this was sort of a corrupt process and who are really shocked by this conviction, they want to be able to feel like they can take action and move forward.

00:52:12.000 So that's why you're seeing all this These donations come in, right?

00:52:15.000 People are saying, I want to do something because this is wrong.

00:52:19.000 I think being able to look back and say, I can't remember, one of the congressmen had a similar post that was like, the DAs and secretaries of states need to get active now.

00:52:29.000 I'll look the tweet up to get more specific in a second.

00:52:31.000 But this need to say, like, we aren't going to just sit by and let this happen.

00:52:37.000 We are going to take action is serious.

00:52:42.000 I think it's instinctive.

00:52:43.000 Why wouldn't you want to do something?

00:52:44.000 Why wouldn't you want to hold accountable people who you feel like are abusing the system, and especially when it affects you?

00:52:49.000 I told Trump to his face!

00:52:51.000 I want to see prosecutions.

00:52:53.000 I think everybody agrees.

00:52:54.000 You did a great job, by the way.

00:52:55.000 Oh, thank you.

00:52:56.000 No, you really did.

00:52:57.000 It was one of the best interviews with him I've seen.

00:52:59.000 Wow.

00:53:00.000 I mean, we only got 16 minutes and 50 seconds.

00:53:03.000 I know, but you asked real questions like the one you just said.

00:53:05.000 I mean, most of the time I feel like when people interview him, the interviews are kind of just the same.

00:53:10.000 It's the, you know, the kitchen table kind of stuff.

00:53:13.000 You ask stuff that people really want to know about.

00:53:15.000 Will there be justice?

00:53:16.000 Will there be retribution?

00:53:18.000 People are angry about this stuff and I mean to the point that you were making Hannah, it's like Sorry, I look over every time when someone does that sorry, there's no polite way to correct people on your first name.

00:53:30.000 I apologize.

00:53:31.000 I'm sorry Anyway, we're talking about Joe Biden going to prison I may have lost my train of thought.

00:53:40.000 You're saying people want to see convictions?

00:53:44.000 People are tired of hearing our elected officials go on television, go on Twitter, and write strongly worded letters.

00:53:55.000 People want to see action.

00:53:56.000 How bad does this have to get before something actually happens?

00:54:00.000 I think people feel like there's a layer of protection that surrounds people who are elected officials, although obviously clearly there's not.

00:54:08.000 But people need to feel like somebody is doing something, that they're looking out for them.

00:54:12.000 Because people have their families to look out for.

00:54:15.000 They have to put food on the table.

00:54:19.000 They have their own lives that they're living.

00:54:21.000 They need to know that somebody is looking out for them out there, and it rarely feels like that's happening.

00:54:26.000 Yeah, man, I wonder.

00:54:30.000 Come November, with, you know, we had that tweet where someone said, it was Inez Stepman saying, the loser's going to jail.

00:54:43.000 I can't predict what November 6th looks like.

00:54:47.000 No one will accept the results.

00:54:49.000 It's just not going to happen.

00:54:51.000 And so what will this country be a month later?

00:54:55.000 Now there's apparently warnings, concern that Trump supporters might riot.

00:54:59.000 They're saying in New York something, Trump supporters don't riot.

00:55:01.000 That's not going to happen.

00:55:02.000 You get like, you got like one riot in, in what, eight years?

00:55:06.000 Yeah.

00:55:07.000 How many during the summer of 2020?

00:55:09.000 Right.

00:55:09.000 They don't.

00:55:10.000 Um, but other people are saying that when the right's breaking point is not rioting, it's civil war.

00:55:15.000 The right are the people who are at home with their kids and they're like, I don't have time.

00:55:20.000 I'm busy with the family.

00:55:23.000 To get a far leftist trust fund kid in college to get up and go scream and throw bricks ain't hard.

00:55:28.000 They got nothing to do.

00:55:30.000 To get a working class mom or dad to set their kids aside, find a babysitter, and go out and be angry, they're not going to protest. 0.71

00:55:36.000 They're going to say, look, I don't have time to go rally in the street.

00:55:40.000 I got to get the kids from school.

00:55:41.000 I got to come back.

00:55:41.000 I got to make dinner.

00:55:42.000 You know, dad's coming home from work.

00:55:44.000 He's going to be tired.

00:55:45.000 He's got to wash laundry.

00:55:46.000 All of these things.

00:55:47.000 So when that breaking point finally does happen, and people with families are forced to take action, the action is more substantial.

00:55:56.000 Basically, that family is a dam holding back the regular people from acting out.

00:56:05.000 What the right would do, and it's the colloquial right, not the, you know, like the boogeyman right.

00:56:10.000 I mean just like Elon Musk, right?

00:56:13.000 They call him right wing.

00:56:14.000 What do regular people who are fed up do?

00:56:17.000 Break confidence in the system.

00:56:19.000 They stop listening.

00:56:21.000 They might not pay their taxes.

00:56:24.000 I mean, that would be one of the most devastating things.

00:56:27.000 They're not going to go out and protest.

00:56:28.000 They're just going to be like, I don't even know what the point, there's no government, so why am I paying?

00:56:32.000 And then all of a sudden we just see what, like, April 2025 record low tax filing something from people who just don't think there's a government anymore?

00:56:40.000 It's kind of a lose-lose situation because even if they succeed, by they I mean the ones doing this to Trump, then To me, it's like, what is this?

00:56:51.000 Well, understand their motivations.

00:56:52.000 They don't care if the system burns down.

00:56:54.000 They're scared that they will lose power.

00:56:57.000 And so these are the kind of people that are willing to throw wave after wave of their own men into killbots if it means they can stay in political power.

00:57:06.000 It's not great, you know?

00:57:07.000 It's rough times out there.

00:57:08.000 I think this is...

00:57:13.000 The challenge, like you were saying before, the family is sort of this thing that keeps you together.

00:57:16.000 If you know you could lose everything, a.k.a.

00:57:19.000 your children, your marriage, the financial stability that you're trying to create for them, you act very differently than someone who is like, well, I don't care about anything.

00:57:27.000 In fact, they're sort of an accelerationist.

00:57:29.000 They're like, the only way to get through the system is to dismantle it.

00:57:33.000 That is difficult to sort of compete with and I think that has always been the challenge between sort of more conservatively people versus more progressively people.

00:57:42.000 You know what I think?

00:57:43.000 I wonder if civil war is possible in a large enough nation, right?

00:57:48.000 The Soviet Union fell apart.

00:57:50.000 They certainly were oppressing people in different areas, you had the Holodomor, and it was awful. 1.00

00:57:56.000 People couldn't eat.

00:57:57.000 But there's not enough proximity.

00:58:00.000 to actually have a real civil conflict.

00:58:02.000 So what happens?

00:58:03.000 It just dissolves.

00:58:05.000 And then the regions coalesce around their power structures, their urban centers and form their own independent nations after the fact.

00:58:13.000 When you look at a lot of the civil wars throughout history, The difference between the United States Civil War versus, say, Spain or, you know, I guess you can call it the Bolshevik Revolution or the French Revolution, the size of the country.

00:58:26.000 If you have one urban center of control, France, for instance, is about as big as Texas.

00:58:31.000 So when the people are fighting over control of France, France doesn't really have a lot of room to break apart.

00:58:36.000 The US Civil War was basically an alignment between different factions of states.

00:58:40.000 So it was particularly unique.

00:58:44.000 The U.S.

00:58:45.000 as it is today, I don't know that we actually would see—I don't think it makes sense that we would see state teaming up with states.

00:58:54.000 The alignment of states makes no sense in that regard.

00:58:57.000 Illinois, New York, California are super far apart.

00:59:00.000 Oregon—I mean, maybe Oregon, Washington, California.

00:59:03.000 But what may be more likely is just the dissolution of the Union.

00:59:08.000 Different states form regional alliances with other states, and then the federal government loses its legitimacy.

00:59:15.000 And it's losing it now, I mean...

00:59:19.000 People may stop doing business in New York, who knows?

00:59:22.000 But this is what I said I feared a while ago.

00:59:23.000 I'm not concerned about the right acting like antifa.

00:59:26.000 That's not going to happen.

00:59:27.000 If it does, it's extremely rare.

00:59:29.000 My bigger concern is if, say, I don't know, South Dakota just says, after this, we are... What if it starts with some kind of gubernatorial boycotts of the federal government?

00:59:44.000 Governors say, we will no longer coordinate with the federal government because of their actions, you know, or whatever.

00:59:52.000 It may start with Republican states cutting off all ties to New York, saying we no longer have communications with or do business with the New York.

01:00:01.000 And I think that's a real possibility.

01:00:03.000 Why?

01:00:04.000 New York as a state is trying to shut down the presidential election for all of the other states.

01:00:09.000 So if you're a red state right now, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Ken Paxton in Texas make this move, they say, New York has no authority to prevent the people of Texas voicing their opinion for who their president should be, and New York is interfering in the constitutionally protected practices that we all share under the Union, and then say, I mean, we might see states suing New York to the Supreme Court, calling this election interference at a federal level through the state courts.

01:00:40.000 We saw it with Texas v. Pennsylvania in 2020, and the Supreme Court went, oh, but we're so scared we won't get involved, and they should have, because now it just gets worse.

01:00:49.000 But we may end up seeing states, I don't know, Alabama, Arkansas, Texas, many of the southern states, just say, all right, We no longer communicate.

01:00:55.000 We no longer trade with.

01:00:57.000 We no longer travel to New York.

01:00:59.000 New York is persona non grata.

01:01:04.000 Where we go from there, I think it'd be, I don't know.

01:01:06.000 I think that could happen, but I think if it was something more litigious like them suing the state, I really wouldn't see that going anywhere because we can vote for Trump.

01:01:14.000 I mean, we're not being prevented from being able to vote for Trump.

01:01:18.000 So it's, I understand what you're saying.

01:01:20.000 And of course we understand that's what the motivation is, but none of us are being deprived of our right to vote for him if we want to.

01:01:26.000 We can't wait for them to put Trump in prison.

01:01:30.000 And then when we in West Virginia vote for Trump, They're like, well, unfortunately, he's in jail in New York, so he's the president, but he can't pardon himself at the state level, so he can't leave, and now you've got a constitutional crisis.

01:01:42.000 I'm not waiting for that.

01:01:44.000 The Supreme Court, many legal scholars have been weighing in on this, saying the Supreme Court could intervene right now in this case and shut it down.

01:01:52.000 They have the authorities.

01:01:53.000 That's what some people are arguing.

01:01:53.000 I don't know if they do.

01:01:55.000 Either way, This case against Trump, everything we know about it.

01:02:01.000 There's no underlying crime.

01:02:02.000 We don't know what it is.

01:02:03.000 It's beyond the statute of limitations.

01:02:05.000 It's a misdemeanor.

01:02:05.000 They upgraded to a felony with some false underlying crime.

01:02:07.000 We have no idea.

01:02:08.000 The judge gave bad instructions to the jury.

01:02:11.000 The prosecution argued something that wasn't true.

01:02:13.000 The judge wasn't allowing it.

01:02:14.000 I mean, the appeals are all right there.

01:02:17.000 The lawsuits need to happen right now that New York is interfering in the 2024 election. 0.99

01:02:22.000 Trump is the presumptive nominee.

01:02:24.000 He's been the presumptive nominee the whole time.

01:02:26.000 And now they're trying to lock him up to stop him.

01:02:29.000 He can't campaign.

01:02:30.000 He needs to be going to these swing states and campaigning.

01:02:32.000 Texas should sue immediately, citing original jurisdiction, going to the Supreme Court and demanding they weigh in on this.

01:02:39.000 Otherwise, it's going to come July 11th.

01:02:42.000 They're going to say, sentencing will begin.

01:02:44.000 Trump, we're going to hold you temporarily.

01:02:47.000 Trump can't be there for the nomination.

01:02:47.000 No RNC.

01:02:49.000 What do they do?

01:02:49.000 Is it a ploy to try and stop them from giving Trump the nomination?

01:02:53.000 Nikki Haley walks in and says, well, Trump can't be here.

01:02:56.000 So he's not here to accept the nomination.

01:02:58.000 And the rules are rules.

01:02:58.000 I am.

01:02:59.000 So you have no choice, and then they pick Nikki Haley.

01:03:02.000 Is that what happens?

01:03:03.000 And then what do we get?

01:03:04.000 The election comes down to a split Biden-Haley-Trump write-in campaign, and Trump ends up getting 30 million write-ins.

01:03:11.000 Nikki Haley gets 30 million, and then Biden wins.

01:03:15.000 They need to take action now.

01:03:18.000 Otherwise, maybe that's the shadow campaign the whole time.

01:03:20.000 Block Trump from appearing at the RNC.

01:03:23.000 Claim rules are rules and if Trump isn't here he can't accept the nomination because he's in jail or prison.

01:03:29.000 And then who's the next person in line?

01:03:32.000 Nikki Haley.

01:03:33.000 Can I pose a question to the whole panel?

01:03:38.000 Were we headed here anyway, as a country?

01:03:41.000 Would we have ended up here no matter what, or is this all happening because Trump ran?

01:03:46.000 Did he accelerate something that we would have ended up here anyway, or did he cause it?

01:03:50.000 That's a good question.

01:03:53.000 Trump is a symptom.

01:03:55.000 But were we headed here anyway?

01:03:57.000 Yes.

01:03:58.000 Because, like, would Trump have run if we weren't headed here anyways, right?

01:04:01.000 Like, all of this happened for a reason and it's hard to say, well, did Trump set it off or did Trump run because something was already in motion, he saw it and he took, you know, it led to these things.

01:04:13.000 The federal government has too much dominance in this country.

01:04:17.000 I don't think this is the way it was supposed to be.

01:04:19.000 And so the idea that ultimately we are coming up against what feels like top-down abuse of states is not surprising.

01:04:28.000 And I do think ultimately this is a moment for the states to decide that they are going to start rebuilding barriers to federal control.

01:04:35.000 I mean, when you're talking about your idea, Tim, it made me think about when Abbott said basically, like, I will be now enforcing the border.

01:04:42.000 And you guys have failed.

01:04:44.000 Texas is in a state of emergency and I'm taking action.

01:04:47.000 I thought that was really powerful, especially given that, you know, the Biden administration's response was, no, you can't do that.

01:04:54.000 You have to let it be the way it is, even though border communities and inner city people in Texas are suffering because of this.

01:05:01.000 I felt like that was really telling.

01:05:04.000 I think that we have been on a track of misalignment and so I don't know if Trump accelerated, I think he because of his personality does heighten maybe some hysteria but generally I think we were on a bad path and there is a question of like can we steer the ship back towards more of the balance of powers that America was supposed to have originally.

01:05:23.000 I mean it kind of at this point It's almost not even worth it to speculate for me, because I considered the last election, you know, this is between good and evil, make your choice, and we lost that one.

01:05:37.000 I didn't think we could do four years of what we've had, and I definitely don't think we can do four more.

01:05:44.000 Well, a lot of people can't.

01:05:45.000 A lot of people are struggling to pay their bills.

01:05:48.000 We're on the verge of war with China, Iran. 0.63

01:05:52.000 We're at war with Russia. 0.66

01:05:53.000 And what happens when or if people stop Paying into the government, and the government is keeping alive all the people that are now here, that are living off the government, then what?

01:06:06.000 Regardless of what the government's spending, if the way we get a right-wing style Antifa is actually just a no-confidence, like, If people just start feeling like the government doesn't matter, and this is already happening, right?

01:06:21.000 I just absolutely love this, because we had someone on the show a little while ago and they were arguing with me, it can't happen, it'll never happen.

01:06:27.000 And I'm like, what if the right starts acting like the left and decides there's no government anyway?

01:06:34.000 Whatever they say on TV has no bearing on my life.

01:06:36.000 And they kept saying, that'll never happen, that can't happen.

01:06:39.000 I'm like, dude, You have roving bands of bandits raiding department stores all over the country.

01:06:46.000 Numerous department stores have shut down.

01:06:48.000 Westfield Mall, I think it is, and SF is mostly abandoned now.

01:06:52.000 The owners have abandoned their debt to the bank, saying, you can keep the building, buh-bye.

01:06:58.000 Two of the largest hotels have shut down.

01:07:00.000 There's feces everywhere.

01:07:02.000 Already we are seeing this across the country on no confidence, a rise in no confidence.

01:07:09.000 People are going around committing crimes because in their minds there is no government.

01:07:15.000 Now, the only thing keeping this country together?

01:07:17.000 Older people and conservatives.

01:07:20.000 My fear is that all of those, all the looting we see in big cities, this means that these people don't fear government.

01:07:26.000 Does the left fear the police?

01:07:28.000 No.

01:07:28.000 They will literally fight a cop.

01:07:31.000 When the left is out protesting and a cop tries to arrest them, they will get into a fistfight with that cop and try to quote-unquote de-arrest.

01:07:37.000 They do not care for the perceived authority of that cop.

01:07:40.000 Then you've got the roving gangs that go and shoot up department stores and rob them blind.

01:07:45.000 They literally don't care about the structure or order of anything.

01:07:49.000 Conservatives do.

01:07:51.000 So if it comes to the point, based on what we're seeing with this, and conservatives just say, there's no government anymore.

01:07:57.000 What the Democrats are like, come November, let's say Joe Biden wins.

01:08:02.000 I'm willing to bet large portions of rural towns and areas just start saying like, there's no country anymore.

01:08:07.000 There's no federal government.

01:08:09.000 What does that mean?

01:08:10.000 It means that they don't respond to federal inquiry.

01:08:13.000 They don't care that many of them aren't even receiving funding in the first place.

01:08:15.000 They're not gonna pay their taxes.

01:08:17.000 If people stop all at once, There's nothing the system can do about it.

01:08:21.000 It just implodes overnight.

01:08:24.000 This is why tax law is so important.

01:08:27.000 It's why they need 87,000 new IRS agents.

01:08:30.000 Everyone's wondering why.

01:08:31.000 Why do they have so many IRS agents?

01:08:33.000 I'm telling you, it's because people are going to come out in November and they're going to be like, It's not going to be something where they protest.

01:08:39.000 I am not saying that a guy stands up in a soapbox and says, I've decided I won't pay taxes anymore.

01:08:44.000 It's going to be a dude waking up and being like, that has no relevance to me at all.

01:08:48.000 I've got to go out and take care of my chickens.

01:08:51.000 And then April's going to come by and he's going to be like, oh, I don't know.

01:08:53.000 And they're going to be like, did you file your taxes?

01:08:55.000 And they'll be like, to the federal government.

01:08:55.000 And he goes, to who?

01:08:57.000 He's like, we haven't had a functioning government in eight years.

01:08:59.000 I don't even know what you're talking about.

01:09:01.000 Ain't nobody's come and talked to me about it.

01:09:03.000 People will just break confidence in a different way.

01:09:07.000 Those roving gangs that rob department stores, they don't pay taxes.

01:09:11.000 They've broken from society in a different way.

01:09:13.000 Conservative rural folk and families, they abide by the system by filing their taxes regularly and filing their permits.

01:09:20.000 And then if the system breaks, Trump going to jail, they might just be like, I don't know, I guess there's no government anymore.

01:09:27.000 But what you're describing, I mean, if you're describing like a movement, like a mass movement

01:09:32.000 of this happening, it would have to be organized.

01:09:34.000 Nope, I'm not talking about a mass movement.

01:09:35.000 I'm talking about a standalone complex.

01:09:37.000 I'm talking about...

01:09:38.000 You think that just millions of people will have the same experience?

01:09:41.000 Well, do you think these roving gangs that rob department stores, do you think they're organized?

01:09:45.000 Yeah.

01:09:46.000 You think that there's a national coordinated effort to set up gangs in each city to rob Kohl's and department stores?

01:09:53.000 No, but I think independent cells organize together, and then I think the public watches on social media and sees them get away with it, and that they're not prosecuted, nothing happens, and they think, I want free sneakers, I'm gonna get a group of my friends, let's go.

01:10:06.000 What actually happens is that one guy will show up on a street corner in Chicago and I'll be like, hey, let's go to Kohl's!

01:10:11.000 And then they'll run to Kohl's.

01:10:13.000 I'm playing with Tim on this one.

01:10:15.000 That's a fact.

01:10:17.000 It's a funny fact.

01:10:18.000 So it happened in, I think it was Wisconsin.

01:10:22.000 There's a video of it.

01:10:23.000 One guy runs out of a store carrying a bunch of stuff, other people watch him do it, they all just start running in and doing it.

01:10:29.000 It's not like they all pre-plan it.

01:10:31.000 Sometimes what they'll do is, they'll just post on social media, they'll make a burner account, and they'll post, be like, I'm gonna be here at 7pm, flash mob, flash mob, flash mob.

01:10:40.000 And they don't tell anybody, they just show up, and then everyone just goes, oh boy!

01:10:43.000 During the Ferguson riots.

01:10:45.000 People were dancing in the street.

01:10:46.000 They weren't looting or anything.

01:10:48.000 One of the cops chucked a flashbang into the crowd.

01:10:50.000 Immediately, a handful of guys run straight to a dollar store, smash the windows out, and start looting and grabbing stuff.

01:10:56.000 They didn't plan it at all.

01:10:57.000 As soon as the chaos hit, they're like, now's my chance.

01:11:01.000 What I'm saying is the right doesn't do that.

01:11:03.000 But when that figurative flashbang hits, the right just might be like, I don't know, I guess.

01:11:03.000 Right.

01:11:10.000 And then they just stop cooperating with the system.

01:11:13.000 OK, but in a way, what you just described is January 6th.

01:11:17.000 No, no, no, no.

01:11:18.000 I'm not talking about large groups of people doing anything.

01:11:21.000 No, no, no.

01:11:21.000 I get it.

01:11:22.000 I get it.

01:11:22.000 But what I'm saying is that January 6th never would have happened if people hadn't spent the entire year watching the left do exactly what happened for a very short period of time on January 6th.

01:11:34.000 And we watched the left do it day after day after day after day and get away with it.

01:11:38.000 Not only get away with it, but the media was saying, nothing to see here.

01:11:41.000 It's mostly peaceful.

01:11:42.000 They're fighting racial injustice.

01:11:46.000 And when it came to a panic point at the very end, when they finally said, we're going to charge forward.

01:11:53.000 We don't care if you think the election was stolen or not.

01:11:55.000 We don't give a damn what you guys think about this.

01:11:58.000 I think there was this moment, that flash moment that you're describing, Where people said, why shouldn't I behave like the left behaves?

01:12:06.000 Why shouldn't we engage?

01:12:07.000 We're just as outrageous as these people.

01:12:08.000 The right will never behave like the left does because the right has merit structure and integrity.

01:12:15.000 The far left going around smashing things, there's no goal there.

01:12:18.000 They're just idle hands being the devil's playground.

01:12:21.000 People on the right are farming.

01:12:22.000 They're tending to their cows.

01:12:24.000 Just a few blocks away, we've got a bunch of cows. 1.00

01:12:25.000 There's little ones, there's big ones.

01:12:26.000 They drink the water, they eat the grass.

01:12:27.000 It's fun, but someone's got to go take care of them.

01:12:29.000 So, what the right would do in the event of no confidence is not... So, like, the left will organize intentionally.

01:12:38.000 Everybody meet here, we're protesting.

01:12:40.000 Then they throw bricks, they accomplish nothing, the government doesn't care.

01:12:44.000 The real breakdown in society and cities among the left is when roving bands flash mob and just raid stores.

01:12:51.000 No organization, no plan, and no way to deal with it.

01:12:54.000 When the right gets to the point where they no longer believe there's a functioning government, they're not going to go around smashing bricks and robbing people.

01:13:01.000 They're just not going to pay taxes.

01:13:03.000 I get it.

01:13:03.000 They'll get like a bill in the mail and be like, well, I can't afford this, so next one.

01:13:07.000 They're gonna say, if I don't know you, I don't owe you.

01:13:09.000 Right.

01:13:10.000 And then they're going to get a tax bill in the mail and they're going to be like, they're going to throw in the garbage.

01:13:15.000 And that's why they needed 87,000 new IRS agents.

01:13:18.000 Because they can see something like this coming.

01:13:21.000 Everyone's wondering why it is.

01:13:23.000 Why do they need 87,000 IRS agents?

01:13:24.000 That was weird.

01:13:26.000 Well, because they can, the government foresees it.

01:13:28.000 And what did they do?

01:13:29.000 They bought a whole bunch of hollow point bullets.

01:13:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:32.000 Because they can foresee a time When large swaths of people in this country simply just say, I'm done participating.

01:13:40.000 Well, it's crazy.

01:13:40.000 With debanking, people are just going to be like, I'm going to find other means.

01:13:44.000 With Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, they're going to be like, I don't want to get my bank account shut down, which has already happened tremendously.

01:13:50.000 I mean, Mike Lindell was telling us about this.

01:13:52.000 So what happens if we start seeing a mass movement where people are like, I'm just going to start using cryptocurrencies because I'm concerned they're going to shut my bank down?

01:13:58.000 Then we're going to use APIs for our website so we can use crypto instead of Visa and MasterCard and banks.

01:14:05.000 Now you can't debank them.

01:14:07.000 And then what happens when they stop filing their taxes?

01:14:09.000 And they say, you have nothing to do with me.

01:14:12.000 If enough people legitimately think Joe Biden did not win, or after convicting Trump and jailing him, there is no way for him to legitimately win, no matter what happens come November, they're going to say, you're not the president.

01:14:25.000 I only listen to what Trump has to say.

01:14:26.000 He's the one who won.

01:14:28.000 I think the biggest risk here is if something happens in November that people can't decide who won.

01:14:35.000 I mean, with 2020, the media all came out and said, there you go, right?

01:14:39.000 Joe Biden wins.

01:14:41.000 If come November, the media comes out and says, we're seeing disputes and lawsuits, and we've not yet got the results in.

01:14:48.000 And then we get something in January of 2025, different from January 6, but still disruptive.

01:14:55.000 That members of Congress and the Senate, who knows?

01:14:58.000 I doubt it because the Democrats have the Senate.

01:15:00.000 But imagine something disruptive happens and we don't get through the vote count.

01:15:02.000 Maybe there's an active lawsuit and the Supreme Court finally does intervene.

01:15:06.000 And then you've got people being like, what did Joe Biden claim?

01:15:10.000 Why?

01:15:10.000 He's not the president.

01:15:11.000 Then the left is going to say the opposite.

01:15:13.000 Donald Trump's not the president.

01:15:14.000 He's not in office.

01:15:15.000 Joe Biden will still literally be in office.

01:15:18.000 And then he'll say something.

01:15:19.000 The IRS sent a bill and the person is going to be like, this is from the fake government.

01:15:23.000 When we get to the point where no one can recognize which one is the actual government, that's when the breakdown happens.

01:15:29.000 People are just going to be like, you're not the government, Joe Biden.

01:15:32.000 And Matt Taibbi described this in an article he wrote a couple years ago, the point at which two vehicles go full speed to the police station, two guys jump out of the cars, run up to the chief of police and yell, arrest that man at each other.

01:15:46.000 Then law enforcement ultimately decides who's the government.

01:15:50.000 So people are going to disregard the government.

01:15:52.000 The question then becomes how this country persists if you end up with a situation where there's not enough federal law enforcement officers, I think there's a hundred thousand for the whole country, unable to maintain enforcement at the federal level.

01:16:12.000 Then this country, that's it.

01:16:14.000 Then there's basically just a guy on TV claiming he's the president.

01:16:19.000 Sorry, I thought you were about to say something.

01:16:20.000 Well, that was going to be my point.

01:16:22.000 I mean, you were making the point a second ago about the two guys going up to the police officer.

01:16:26.000 I mean, we already know there's a double standard in the justice system, and we already know that they're going to prosecute conservatives.

01:16:32.000 So that decision has already been made.

01:16:34.000 Which side does the hammer of justice come down on?

01:16:37.000 It's going to come after anybody on the right.

01:16:39.000 But what I mean is, let's say November 6th, half the media says Biden won, half the media says Trump won.

01:16:47.000 What does this country do?

01:16:49.000 Then you're going to get Republicans who are going to have to adhere to their constituencies and say, of course Trump won.

01:16:55.000 Of course Biden won.

01:16:56.000 Then they're going to go to count the votes, and it's going to be bedlam on the House floor.

01:17:02.000 There's going to be speakers banging the gavel. 0.78

01:17:04.000 Mike Johnson, he's the speaker.

01:17:06.000 As the Speaker of the House, he might say, Trump is the President.

01:17:09.000 And that's it.

01:17:10.000 That's all that matters.

01:17:11.000 Then the Senate loses their minds.

01:17:12.000 Then the Democrats go on TV and say, Speaker Johnson has colluded with Trump.

01:17:16.000 They're lying.

01:17:18.000 Who's in charge?

01:17:18.000 You'll have Biden in front of, like, office of the former president-elect with, like, a new branding.

01:17:23.000 Oh, no, he'll claim to be president.

01:17:24.000 So will Trump.

01:17:25.000 Trump will have an emblem behind him saying, president-elect.

01:17:28.000 And he says, everybody knows the Speaker of the House said that it's me, I president, I would.

01:17:31.000 And then Joe Biden's going to be like, come on, this is not legitimate.

01:17:35.000 He's not the president.

01:17:37.000 And then someone's going to go to a law enforcement officer, National Guard, and they're going to say, Donald Trump's going to say to a state National Guard somewhere, I'm the president and we're invoking you to help with law enforcement.

01:17:48.000 And they're going to be like, okay, I guess.

01:17:50.000 I mean, who's the president?

01:17:52.000 Who would know?

01:17:54.000 The people of this country basically just march in lockstep with the media.

01:17:57.000 That's all that matters.

01:17:59.000 If the media says it, people act upon it.

01:18:02.000 If the media says it, you'll get one faction saying the opposite must be true and one faction saying the media must be correct.

01:18:08.000 But what would be a scenario in which the media would be split on this?

01:18:12.000 I mean, are you talking about an actual tie?

01:18:15.000 It's going to be dependent upon alternative media and corporate press.

01:18:19.000 Corporate press is losing its ratings.

01:18:21.000 CNN's ratings are at a low, not seen since 1991, when they first launched.

01:18:28.000 Fox News is the same thing.

01:18:30.000 If alternative media is saying things like, look, according to this, it looks like Trump won, but the corporate press is saying the opposite, then no one knows.

01:18:41.000 And if no one knows, the real question then becomes, who does law enforcement default to?

01:18:47.000 And if they don't default to anybody, then it just breaks down in partisan lines.

01:18:53.000 And you will end up with factions in the federal government saying Trump won and factions saying Biden won.

01:19:00.000 And then what happens on January 20th?

01:19:05.000 No idea.

01:19:06.000 Or, hey, look, I'm crazy, and Trump will get convicted, go to jail, he'll come out and say, the judge has sentenced me to three years, and I'm sorry, I broke the law, shouldn't have done it, some say it was the worst, so I'm going to jail, I'm not running anymore, Nikki Haley, she's the candidate, and then Nikki Haley wins.

01:19:23.000 That's gotten better, by the way.

01:19:24.000 The country's unified, she declares World War III, and then we die in nuclear hellfire instead.

01:19:28.000 It's gotten better.

01:19:30.000 I don't think Trump's likely to admit, you know, to suddenly take responsibility for this crime, which, you know, I don't really believe in New York's case against him anyways.

01:19:40.000 I think really, to me, all of it comes down to, like, the will of the people and what the people feel like they have the ability to influence right now, right?

01:19:51.000 Like, even if they were to say, I'm going to stop paying my taxes because this is all crazy or whatever else.

01:19:58.000 Ultimately, they have to feel like there is no repercussion for that or that the risk is worth it.

01:20:03.000 I think so much of American culture is deteriorated because we never tried to maintain it, because we allowed immigration to become rampant, because we didn't try to really stick to the values that were part of our founding. 0.97

01:20:20.000 It's going to be interesting to try and see how both campaigns leverage the next couple months as they try to be, you know, the right one, right?

01:20:30.000 This is the people you should trust going forward.

01:20:32.000 These are the people who have your best interest at heart.

01:20:34.000 Don't look over there.

01:20:35.000 Don't look at these other things.

01:20:36.000 Don't look at what we've done in the past.

01:20:37.000 Just pay attention to right now.

01:20:39.000 I think that's why American political theater has become about urgency.

01:20:44.000 In some ways, this case, the timing of it works out for both sides because you're able to say, this is happening right now and you have to make a choice.

01:20:53.000 There is nothing you can do.

01:20:54.000 And I do feel that way to a certain extent.

01:20:56.000 This election does have a lot riding on it in a way that maybe other years were less dramatic.

01:21:02.000 On the other hand, I really feel for the average Americans who feel overwhelmed and hopeless right now.

01:21:09.000 They feel like no matter what they do, the worst is coming.

01:21:13.000 Do you feel like this, what we're experiencing right now, is the sabotage?

01:21:17.000 Or do you feel like this is almost the precursor?

01:21:21.000 Because in a way, you know, a lot of what they've done for all these years is basically, you know, they live in this fantasy like they're stopping Hitler. 0.56

01:21:27.000 Like, if I could go back in time and stop Hitler, now we're living through it so anything goes. 0.98

01:21:31.000 I do not believe they think that.

01:21:33.000 You don't?

01:21:33.000 Absolutely not.

01:21:35.000 Having spent tons of time with far-left activists, they literally do not think that.

01:21:40.000 See, what the left will do is they go to regular people and say, we're stopping Hitler.

01:21:45.000 And then as soon as the regular people go, wow, okay, then they go, can you believe they bought that?

01:21:49.000 Wow, I can't wait till we have communism.

01:21:52.000 They don't actually think they're stopping Hitler. 0.60

01:21:54.000 I feel like I've talked to a lot of people on the left who feel like they're stopping Hitler.

01:21:58.000 They're telling you that and they don't actually think that.

01:22:00.000 They're telling you that because conservatives seem to think that these people, these communists, are telling them the truth.

01:22:08.000 They come out and they go, Donald Trump wants to destroy the Constitution.

01:22:12.000 And we're like, hey, that's not the case.

01:22:13.000 It's the Gell-Mann amnesia effect of politics.

01:22:16.000 They come out with a press statement saying, Donald Trump says he wants to terminate the Constitution.

01:22:20.000 And we go, they made that up.

01:22:21.000 Trump never said that.

01:22:23.000 Then the leftist comes to you and says, we're stopping Hitler.

01:22:25.000 And you go, wow, I didn't realize you thought that.

01:22:27.000 They're lying every step of the way.

01:22:30.000 I'm telling you that while they're foaming at the mouth and blood is coming out of their mouth and they're screaming, you literally support Hitler. 0.82

01:22:37.000 They seem pretty serious while they're screaming and shrieking.

01:22:41.000 Can I ask, do you guys have your political conversions around the same time?

01:22:45.000 Conversions?

01:22:46.000 I was first.

01:22:47.000 I've never had a political conversion.

01:22:49.000 Well, you stayed the same and the party moved away from you.

01:22:51.000 But it seems like you guys had similar timelines of experiencing a change in how you were perceiving the Democrat versus Republican labels in America.

01:23:02.000 I don't think you can compare Brandon and I's experiences.

01:23:07.000 My experience was I knew a bunch of Trump supporters and went to a bunch of Trump rallies, never really cared that much for Republican or Democrat, and so when the culture war was inflaming and Donald Trump was running, In 2016?

01:23:20.000 In 2015.

01:23:20.000 I was at Trump rallies talking to people going, that's really interesting that you think about Donald Trump.

01:23:24.000 And then I was going to my friends and I was posting online, Trump's not that bad.

01:23:28.000 What are you talking about?

01:23:29.000 This is crazy.

01:23:29.000 Trump never said that.

01:23:30.000 They say Trump said Mexicans are rapists.

01:23:31.000 I was like, no, he didn't.

01:23:32.000 He never said that.

01:23:33.000 And so my attitude was very much, I wouldn't vote for the guy. 0.99

01:23:36.000 I think he's silly. 0.89

01:23:37.000 I'm not going to vote for him or Hillary Clinton, but stop making me defend the guy. 0.98

01:23:41.000 What you're saying is not true.

01:23:43.000 And then in 2020, I was like, well, he's the first president in my lifetime to not start new wars and try and end wars and pull our troops back.

01:23:50.000 The only big conversion I had was probably on guns, where I went constitutionally absolutist on Second Amendment.

01:23:57.000 Everything else has been relatively static, except for uh, me saying in 2020, okay, now we'll vote for Trump

01:24:05.000 because the foreign policy thing that changed. But literally the whole time, I was at the

01:24:12.000 Trump, what you call it, the deplorable, hanging out with a bunch of Trump supporters when he got

01:24:17.000 elected while Antifa was throwing bricks at people. So I did not have anything close to what

01:24:21.000 Brandon experienced.

01:24:22.000 That's interesting to me, and obviously you know your experience better than I do.

01:24:26.000 I appreciate you saying that.

01:24:27.000 Like, if you were to ask my perspective as an outsider looking in, I have felt like you have become more right than I am.

01:24:35.000 I mean, I was definitely very on the left, and I'm now very on the right.

01:24:40.000 I feel like you've become very right-wing.

01:24:42.000 In what way?

01:24:47.000 I just, you know, I think that, I just feel like you're, you're, my perception of you when I met you was that you were very sort of like libertarian, very centrist and it's still the case.

01:24:57.000 Okay.

01:24:58.000 I just, you're, you're, you're definitely.

01:25:02.000 Way, way in for Trump now, in a way that you weren't before.

01:25:05.000 Joe Biden is burning the country to the ground intentionally.

01:25:08.000 The Afghanistan withdrawal, it's not a question of, and I said this last week and I was saying it to Trump, it's not even a question of if Trump's policies are good anymore. 0.99

01:25:17.000 It's, holy crap! 0.96

01:25:19.000 There's nothing else you can do. 0.99

01:25:21.000 You can vote for the libertarian guy, the trans the kids, open borders, you know, leftist, because he's anti-war.

01:25:29.000 Not gonna happen.

01:25:30.000 Trump's also anti-war.

01:25:31.000 I'll take it.

01:25:33.000 Donald Trump in August of 2020, he puts out his second term agenda and he's like, get rid of the DEI stuff in government contracting.

01:25:42.000 I'm like, you have to.

01:25:42.000 It's illegal.

01:25:43.000 It's a violation of the law.

01:25:45.000 He didn't start any wars.

01:25:45.000 He had a timeline for withdrawal.

01:25:46.000 He wanted to get our troops out of Syria.

01:25:47.000 He has the Abraham Accords. 0.96

01:25:48.000 He has the North Korea peace talks that he did.

01:25:52.000 And I'm like, well, he's the best president of my lifetime.

01:25:56.000 I mean, there's three.

01:25:58.000 There's three presidents that I can point to.

01:25:59.000 I was a little kid during Clinton, so you've got Obama, Bush, and Trump.

01:26:04.000 And Trump did better than all of them when it came to foreign policy.

01:26:06.000 But anti-war is right-wing?

01:26:09.000 Apparently so.

01:26:10.000 I don't even know that he'll pardon Julian Assange.

01:26:12.000 But where the left is right now on abortion?

01:26:17.000 Abortion to the point of birth.

01:26:18.000 Yeah, okay, I've never been there.

01:26:20.000 And I've always been in the more middle of the road.

01:26:22.000 Like, I agree with RFK on a lot of these things.

01:26:24.000 Safe, legal, rare, in only certain circumstances.

01:26:27.000 But I don't like it.

01:26:28.000 At all. 0.93

01:26:29.000 And I'm not going to entertain this ridiculous stuff the left is pushing.

01:26:32.000 But my positions on most policy issues have not changed, except for gun rights.

01:26:37.000 Because of the Constitution, I agree.

01:26:39.000 The crazy thing is, we have not had a policy discussion in this country in how long?

01:26:44.000 What's the policy discussion we've debated in the past two years?

01:26:48.000 Have we had one?

01:26:50.000 It's all emotional.

01:26:52.000 No, no, no.

01:26:52.000 It's all, should Trump go to prison?

01:26:55.000 Or should Hunter Biden go to prison?

01:26:57.000 Should Joe Biden be held accountable for his quid pro quo?

01:26:59.000 We've not actually discussed policy outside of foreign policy, to be fair, because of World War III looming.

01:27:05.000 Okay, so, the economy.

01:27:09.000 I can't tell you too much.

01:27:10.000 I know that we've got an immigration problem. 0.68

01:27:12.000 There's a policy.

01:27:13.000 We've got to stop the immigration problem. 1.00

01:27:15.000 Democrats are for open borders.

01:27:17.000 In 2019, in the Democratic primaries, they all raised their hand saying it would no longer be a criminal offense to cross the border without permission.

01:27:28.000 They would make that a civil fine.

01:27:30.000 They all said that they would give free health care to non-citizens. 0.51

01:27:33.000 All of them raised their hand for this.

01:27:35.000 My positions didn't change. 0.89

01:27:36.000 The left has just become a bunch of crackpot cultists who want to burn the country to the ground.

01:27:41.000 And you get Donald Trump, who resembles the presidents we used to have, except no war. 0.57

01:27:48.000 I'll take it.

01:27:49.000 But the funny thing is, whenever the media talks about the show, they say, conservative. 0.98

01:27:54.000 And I'm like, yes, because the left is so deranged and insane.

01:27:58.000 It's conservative to say things like families are good. 0.59

01:28:03.000 Families are good.

01:28:04.000 Well, that's a conservative position.

01:28:05.000 Oh, okay, I guess.

01:28:07.000 You know, literally everyone in this country, like the default liberals will tell you, you look at the Krasinskys, they play this game all day. 1.00

01:28:13.000 They say, no, no, no, we agree on most things.

01:28:15.000 Then stop calling me right wing when we agree on 90% of things.

01:28:19.000 And the only difference is that I read the news and you don't.

01:28:22.000 So I read the news.

01:28:23.000 Joe Biden says, quit pro quo with the president of Ukraine.

01:28:26.000 Otherwise, you're not getting a billion dollars.

01:28:28.000 You got to file the prosecutor, not get a billion dollars.

01:28:30.000 I say that, they go, he's a conservative.

01:28:32.000 I'm like, that's not a policy argument.

01:28:33.000 Is it bad to be called right-wing?

01:28:35.000 It's wrong.

01:28:36.000 And the reason they do it is to isolate you from regular people who are uninitiated or independent voters.

01:28:42.000 They want to poison the well and say right is bad, right is Trump, MAGA is evil.

01:28:47.000 So then when I say, I'm actually a fan of progressive tax systems, I just think the government is corrupt, I actually am in favor of universal basic health care, I'm just not a fan of universal absolute health care because it's physically impossible, it's economically impossible, they say, that's right wing.

01:29:03.000 And I'm like, no, like I supported Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang.

01:29:08.000 And the only reason I'm supporting Trump right now is because of his foreign policy and his domestic immigration policy.

01:29:13.000 Some of the most important issues pertain to Americans today. 0.99

01:29:16.000 And Joe Biden's policy is take a crap in his pants, burn the country down and hide in a basement. 0.99

01:29:20.000 And there's no other viable candidate. 0.99

01:29:22.000 The Democrats' policy is, lock up your political opponents, burn the country to the ground, spend $100 billion overseas in each of these random different countries while Americans are suffering, import the third world into this country, displacing minorities.

01:29:35.000 There is no legitimate left or right position supporting Joe Biden.

01:29:39.000 There is only the, you are in a cult or you are not in a cult.

01:29:43.000 Yeah, I kind of feel like the right and left and middle, none of that even matters anymore because it's semantically irrelevant at this point.

01:29:49.000 It's just kind of like...

01:29:50.000 What's going on?

01:29:53.000 Well, I think that at the time that I walked away from the Democratic Party, I would have agreed that my stance at the time was, you know, I didn't leave the party.

01:30:01.000 The party left me.

01:30:02.000 That was very much how I felt.

01:30:04.000 But it's interesting.

01:30:05.000 I'm actually going to be putting out a sequel to my original walkway video where I talk about the things that have changed for the worse over the last just six years.

01:30:13.000 And as they have become more extreme and all of the things that you just said, I have leaned Harder into being on the right, I think, as a reaction to how they are becoming more extreme on the left.

01:30:27.000 So I don't know that I can honestly even say anymore just, oh, the party left me and I'm still just kind of like hanging out in the middle.

01:30:34.000 I think that I have intentionally embraced being further on the right because I do.

01:30:41.000 I think we're in a cold civil war.

01:30:42.000 I've been saying that for a long time.

01:30:44.000 I got in a lot of trouble on January 6th for that.

01:30:45.000 So what does that mean to be on the right?

01:30:49.000 I would say that I am supporting a group of people more unanimously than maybe I typically would.

01:31:00.000 I see what you're saying.

01:31:02.000 You're more just likely to say, of the people on the right who are fighting, go for it.

01:31:06.000 Like, I agree with you.

01:31:06.000 Totally.

01:31:08.000 Even at times where I roll my eyes on certain issues and I'm just like, come on, you guys.

01:31:13.000 But I'm like, I still feel like this is my team now.

01:31:17.000 Because even though I don't agree with my team on every single issue or every single nuance of every single issue, This is my team against these people that are trying to destroy us completely.

01:31:28.000 And otherwise, if that weren't the case, I probably would be hanging out more in the middle by myself, just being like, you know, you guys on the right are crazy sometimes, and you guys on the left are crazy sometimes, and I'm just doing my own thing in the middle.

01:31:40.000 But I don't think we have the option to be that way right now.

01:31:42.000 You've got Republicans that do nothing.

01:31:44.000 You've got the... Correct.

01:31:44.000 You've got, you know, you've got a bunch of Republicans coming out, Asa Hutchinson saying, well, we got to respect the verdict and treat... No, shut up.

01:31:50.000 Taylor Hogan, too.

01:31:52.000 Yeah, Larry Hogan is exactly why we left Maryland. 1.00

01:31:54.000 These people are corrupt, feckless pieces of garbage. 1.00

01:31:59.000 And so the issue is not policy. 1.00

01:32:02.000 The issue is the rule of law.

01:32:03.000 And now, free speech, if you're for free speech, you're right wing.

01:32:08.000 The issue is, if you believe that there should be legitimate evidence in criminal trials, you're right-wing.

01:32:15.000 If you believe you should not criminally charge your political rival during an election, you are right-wing.

01:32:23.000 So these are right-wing positions now.

01:32:25.000 So that's the reality.

01:32:27.000 If this is really coming down to your team makes you left or right, Healthcare doesn't matter.

01:32:33.000 Taxation doesn't matter.

01:32:34.000 In fact, a really good point was made some time ago, I can't remember who made this, they said, it's clear that culture war issues define the left and the right, not policy issues.

01:32:44.000 If you are a leftist, and you say something like, I don't agree with universal healthcare, they'll go, but why?

01:32:51.000 And you'll say, well, you know, the problem is this, and they'll argue.

01:32:53.000 And then if you say, I don't agree that we should give trans medicine to children, you're right-wing, and they'll start attacking you and they'll call you a fascist.

01:33:01.000 Right.

01:33:01.000 They don't care.

01:33:03.000 If you say something like, we should have universal... I don't agree with universal basic income.

01:33:07.000 Well, but do you agree with women getting abortions whenever they want? 0.97

01:33:09.000 No.

01:33:09.000 Right-wing.

01:33:10.000 Yeah.

01:33:11.000 Okay, I do now.

01:33:11.000 Okay, left-wing.

01:33:12.000 Well, I think the LGBT thing is a great example. 0.95

01:33:15.000 I mean, I'm a gay man who used to be a liberal.

01:33:18.000 I still am very much a gay rights advocate, but I recognize that the LGBTQIA2+, etc.

01:33:27.000 community It is at the epicenter of the radicalization of the left wing.

01:33:35.000 And so if I have to choose now between standing with other gay people on the LGBTQIA left or joining people on the right who at times I think are too extreme or rigid in their positions against LGBT, I'm still going to stand with the right right now.

01:33:51.000 It's interesting because I think a lot of- because I've never considered myself Democrat.

01:33:57.000 I don't- I'm happy to be called conservative.

01:33:59.000 Like, it doesn't bother me at all.

01:34:01.000 So it's interesting to hear if both of you have different perspectives on this because from my side, it seems like The Democrats really built a lot of their support in the modern era based on lumping people together based on these identities.

01:34:16.000 And also you have to include them.

01:34:17.000 And also you have to include them.

01:34:18.000 And you have to be in line with this policy because it's an attack on those people and stuff like that.

01:34:22.000 Like it is much more about identity.

01:34:24.000 And I felt like, you know, while Of course there are Republicans who are not great, and of course there's a lot of evangelical influence in right-wing communities.

01:34:33.000 I did feel like a lot of the time you were having more conversations about policy or about how does this issue affect me as an individual as opposed to this collective lump I'm being forced into.

01:34:44.000 Yeah.

01:34:47.000 I definitely agree with that.

01:34:53.000 That the transfer of power in this country is contested, I think, is 100%.

01:34:56.000 There's no reality in which I see Trump or Biden being like, yeah, yeah, you ran a good campaign.

01:35:03.000 Thanks for the run.

01:35:05.000 I hereby concede.

01:35:05.000 Not gonna happen.

01:35:07.000 And what does that mean for our war with Russia?

01:35:11.000 Potential war with Iran and Taiwan?

01:35:14.000 I would not be surprised if come November 6th, China invades Taiwan.

01:35:21.000 Well, okay.

01:35:22.000 Or maybe January 15th.

01:35:23.000 Yeah, and I apologize.

01:35:25.000 I don't want to like belabor this point.

01:35:26.000 I just want to try to understand it better.

01:35:28.000 Like, are you saying that there's a scenario where Trump clearly wins, he clearly gets the most votes, he clearly has the most electoral votes, but what happens then?

01:35:38.000 Is it like, But he's too dangerous, so we're not going to allow this to happen.

01:35:42.000 No, I'm saying there's a scenario where the results come in in Texas, and they're contested, and Texas doesn't send their electoral vote count because there's a bunch of lawsuits happening in the state, and the state doesn't certify.

01:35:55.000 And then they're in Congress going, we don't have Texas, Ohio, Minnesota.

01:36:01.000 There's a bunch of lawsuits happening, so the state hasn't certified, and now they're trying to expedite it.

01:36:07.000 What do we do?

01:36:08.000 Who won?

01:36:10.000 Who's the president?

01:36:12.000 Then it goes to a contingent election, and the Speaker of the House Johnson says, we have a contingent election on our hands, so delegations will decide who the president is going to be.

01:36:20.000 Of course, there are more Republican delegations in the House than Democrats, so Donald Trump wins.

01:36:25.000 The Senate then chooses the vice president, which would be Kamala Harris, so you get a Trump-Harris administration weird. 0.50

01:36:30.000 But then, the Democrats start screaming, the Republicans rigged it!

01:36:34.000 Red states, their legislatures are blocking the electoral vote count, which would make Biden the winner, so that they can have a contingent election and stop Biden from becoming president.

01:36:43.000 So they filed laws at the Supreme Court. 0.92

01:36:45.000 Supreme Court starts crying like little babies because they're all pathetic, except for Alito and Thomas, by the way. 0.97

01:36:50.000 And then they say, well, we can't rule on this. 0.99

01:36:52.000 The states...

01:36:53.000 Or they issue a quick ruling saying states must determine the outcomes of their own elections, and then we do not get to 270 or whatever happens.

01:37:00.000 Both candidates are at like 250-something.

01:37:03.000 The House then says Trump is president.

01:37:05.000 Democrats say no.

01:37:07.000 Bedlam.

01:37:08.000 What's the best case scenario?

01:37:10.000 Trump wins.

01:37:11.000 Joe Biden says on TV, I hereby concede Trump ran a great, a hell of a campaign.

01:37:15.000 He's a good guy.

01:37:16.000 And we're looking forward to working with him.

01:37:18.000 But we'll be back in two years.

01:37:21.000 Old-style politicking.

01:37:22.000 I mean, that's the best case scenario.

01:37:26.000 What we hope for is Trump wins, Democrats drop to their knees and go, NOOOOO!

01:37:30.000 And scream. 1.00

01:37:32.000 And then Trump becomes president.

01:37:33.000 That's it.

01:37:34.000 And then Democrats whinge and complain.

01:37:37.000 Republicans take the Senate, the House, and the Executive Branch.

01:37:42.000 We get a good AG, a good Deputy Attorney General, we get a good head of the CIA and FBI, and then we start seeing some investigations and prosecutions of the corrupt individuals who have been scamming this country.

01:37:54.000 That's our best case scenario.

01:37:55.000 It's possible.

01:37:56.000 It is.

01:37:57.000 Take a lot of work, though.

01:37:59.000 And I think the win has to be overwhelming.

01:38:02.000 If Trump wins with like 310 electoral votes, you don't need any of this.

01:38:07.000 So he's on track to win everything.

01:38:07.000 Right.

01:38:10.000 You run the numbers on independent voters.

01:38:11.000 You run the number on swing states.

01:38:13.000 The only way they win is through dirty tricks.

01:38:15.000 That's why they're trying to put Trump in jail.

01:38:17.000 Let's go to Super Chats!

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01:38:46.000 Now, actually, it looks like our Super Chats are frozen completely, so I'm gonna try it, because this is what happens when you have big shows, unfortunately, guys.

01:38:54.000 Let me see if I can try and figure out how to, uh...

01:39:00.000 Go in the back door.

01:39:02.000 It's like the Trump campaign.

01:39:03.000 So many people are donating right now.

01:39:05.000 It is interesting.

01:39:06.000 I think today was a big political engagement day.

01:39:09.000 I think people really need to talk about what's going on.

01:39:12.000 It does sound wild.

01:39:15.000 I'm being inundated with text messages from people who are just emotional.

01:39:19.000 They're just like, I'm freaking out.

01:39:21.000 I'm sick to my stomach.

01:39:22.000 Oh my God.

01:39:22.000 I don't know what to do.

01:39:23.000 Yeah, I could not work anymore after I came in.

01:39:25.000 I mean, it's crazy that we all kind of saw this was going to happen, but people were still shocked when it did.

01:39:32.000 I mean, I'll tell you guys, I was sitting on the couch and I was watching a Triton poker tournament.

01:39:39.000 I was tuned out.

01:39:40.000 I had just finished eating.

01:39:41.000 I'm chilling.

01:39:42.000 I was like, I'm not going to skate today.

01:39:43.000 I'm going to take a rest day, and I'm just going to zone out.

01:39:46.000 And then I got on my bike, put on my fancy little aviator goggles, and rode my electric bike to go look at cows in the stream, and that's what I like to do.

01:39:53.000 And I wasn't really paying attention.

01:39:56.000 I was looking at some cows.

01:39:57.000 The cow looked at me.

01:39:58.000 I waved.

01:39:59.000 And then I rode around for about 20 minutes, stopped at a little hotspot they got near West Virginia, hung out for about 30 minutes, had a lemonade.

01:40:07.000 Came back, opened my phone, Trump guilty.

01:40:10.000 And I was like, wow.

01:40:11.000 I wasn't even paying attention.

01:40:12.000 I was like, I'm gonna go get some fresh air.

01:40:17.000 I think it was the guilty on all counts.

01:40:20.000 I think that we all thought it was possible he would be found guilty of some things.

01:40:26.000 I think this really set into people's minds that it's just completely corrupt.

01:40:32.000 This is how forgotten we are.

01:40:33.000 All right, we got our Super Chats here.

01:40:34.000 We got Clintz.

01:40:35.000 He says, Howdy, people.

01:40:36.000 I'm voting harder than a 13-year-old boy at a water park this November.

01:40:40.000 I don't get it.

01:40:42.000 I don't get it either.

01:40:42.000 Voting?

01:40:43.000 Don't get it, but how's it going?

01:40:45.000 Tracer says, Not first.

01:40:46.000 Correct.

01:40:47.000 You are not.

01:40:48.000 TokenBlack says, Howdy, people.

01:40:50.000 I kind of figured they would find Trump guilty, but I held out hope.

01:40:53.000 This isn't the America I grew up in.

01:40:55.000 I've heard that a lot today.

01:40:56.000 Yeah.

01:40:56.000 This isn't the America I grew up in.

01:40:58.000 The Emperor's Champion says, I am calling on my fellow truckers to boycott NYC.

01:41:02.000 No freight to Bolsheviks.

01:41:05.000 New York State in general.

01:41:07.000 The whole state.

01:41:08.000 Yeah, I wonder what the grassroots reaction to this will be.

01:41:12.000 It'll be interesting to see how people respond to it.

01:41:15.000 Yep.

01:41:16.000 Man of History says, Historic day in American history.

01:41:19.000 Trump 2024 MAGA.

01:41:22.000 This is one of the most significant days in U.S.

01:41:26.000 history.

01:41:27.000 Whatever happens next, they will talk about this day forever.

01:41:33.000 And I just want to stress how strange it is to realize that in a hundred years, they will probably pull up this podcast, all of your comments on the podcast, everything we've said, and there will be kids watching to learn about the history of this time, whatever it may be.

01:41:49.000 World War III, Civil War, or just a tumultuous period in U.S.

01:41:52.000 history.

01:41:54.000 Could you imagine being in the pulpit video of like, you know, Robert E. Lee talking about what's going on.

01:42:00.000 And he's sitting there arguing, no, I can't believe what they're doing.

01:42:04.000 They just delete whatever Robert E. Lee said.

01:42:06.000 We're not allowed to talk about that part of history.

01:42:09.000 Man.

01:42:11.000 Maybe they will in Texas.

01:42:12.000 Yep.

01:42:13.000 Texas history.

01:42:15.000 Yeah, we didn't cover that story.

01:42:16.000 Ben D says Trump allegedly uses N-word, people lose their minds, Biden on actual video and Senate official record using it, no one cares.

01:42:23.000 Right.

01:42:24.000 Yep.

01:42:25.000 That's right, because it's fake.

01:42:26.000 It's a fake story.

01:42:28.000 Josie Flanagan says, I feel disgusted even though I expected this.

01:42:31.000 I donated to the Trump campaign today.

01:42:32.000 First time I have ever donated to a political campaign in my life.

01:42:36.000 I will be donating every month until the election.

01:42:38.000 The trial was a joke.

01:42:40.000 So I immediately went to Donald J. Trump.

01:42:42.000 DonaldJTrump.com.

01:42:42.000 I think that's what it is, right?

01:42:44.000 And I donated the max.

01:42:46.000 Because I don't think I've ever donated to Trump before.

01:42:48.000 I'm pretty sure I didn't.

01:42:49.000 Because I've always just been like, I don't know.

01:42:52.000 I donated a lot to people in 2019 and 2018.

01:42:55.000 I donated the Max to Tulsi and Yang, I think, when they were running.

01:43:00.000 Because I'm like, these people could fix the Democratic Party.

01:43:02.000 They could shift it back in the right direction.

01:43:04.000 And they didn't win.

01:43:06.000 But since then, I've had a lot of people ask, and I'm like, no, I don't really do that anymore.

01:43:09.000 This is different.

01:43:10.000 So I donated to Trump.

01:43:12.000 I hope he makes $500 million overnight.

01:43:16.000 Collision of Cause says, I've never donated to a political campaign before, but tonight I donated to President Trump $104.

01:43:20.000 Hashtag Felons for Trump.

01:43:24.000 There you go!

01:43:25.000 He's got a new voter base, too.

01:43:27.000 That's right.

01:43:28.000 All right, where are we at?

01:43:30.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:43:31.000 says, AK guy lost by a tiny margin in Texas.

01:43:34.000 30,000 out of 735,000 voted.

01:43:38.000 4% of the voters voted. 0.59

01:43:39.000 If people don't get off their butts in November, then we're doomed.

01:43:42.000 But it was a primary.

01:43:44.000 So the question is, how many of those people were Republican voters registered, and then we break it down.

01:43:49.000 So it wasn't 735, that was the full county, and a portion of them are going to be Democrats.

01:43:53.000 But it is true. 0.90

01:43:54.000 It was something like less than 500 votes or something, right?

01:43:58.000 Yeah, it was 400 and something votes he could have won by.

01:44:00.000 And you win the primary, and then you're a shoo-in in a Republican district to win in November.

01:44:05.000 I think this is a really good example of when people are like, well, my vote doesn't matter.

01:44:08.000 Like, maybe you're not going to change the presidential election in your state if it always leans one way, but you can have a really serious impact on your local and state elections.

01:44:16.000 And that is critical.

01:44:18.000 All right.

01:44:19.000 Shiny Emperor says, just donated to DJT campaign last week and now a couple hundred short on rent.

01:44:24.000 Any help would be appreciated.

01:44:26.000 Wow.

01:44:27.000 Well, good luck, man.

01:44:28.000 I recommend paying your rent before donating to Trump, to be honest.

01:44:32.000 And I will stress this too.

01:44:33.000 There have been people who are like, Tim, will you match donations to Trump?

01:44:36.000 No, I won't.

01:44:37.000 There's a legal limit on donations.

01:44:39.000 I donated the max.

01:44:40.000 I will not match anything.

01:44:42.000 That's it.

01:44:42.000 You guys do your own thing.

01:44:43.000 You guys also could, if you can't, you know, if it's not in your budget to donate to Trump, you could volunteer or you could go register voters.

01:44:50.000 Like it doesn't have to be a financial contribution.

01:44:52.000 I think for a lot of campaigns, having the feet on the ground is a bigger issue.

01:44:58.000 All right.

01:44:59.000 We'll grab some more Super Chats.

01:45:03.000 Humble Beginning says, how can anyone think they're not going to put Trump in prison?

01:45:07.000 Nothing is normal about any of this.

01:45:09.000 I agree.

01:45:10.000 So do I. Yep.

01:45:12.000 Yeah.

01:45:13.000 July 11th, they say Trump will be remanded to custody.

01:45:18.000 He is hereby convicted.

01:45:20.000 They're going to, I don't know, 18 months minimum security.

01:45:23.000 They're going to say you're going to go to a minimum security facility and this prevents, and they're going to say that way, Secret Service, you got no issue there.

01:45:29.000 It's a golf course, basically.

01:45:30.000 You know, the doors are barely locked.

01:45:32.000 It's minimum security.

01:45:33.000 They even have work release.

01:45:35.000 But you're going to be with your Secret Service.

01:45:36.000 It'll be no issue.

01:45:37.000 They're not going to send him to Rikers because that would be chaotic.

01:45:40.000 And then Trump can't be at the RNC.

01:45:42.000 So what do they do?

01:45:44.000 Virtual nomination?

01:45:46.000 Or Haley comes in and they go, but our hands are tied.

01:45:49.000 The rules say he has to be here to accept.

01:45:52.000 Well, who's here?

01:45:53.000 Oh, no.

01:45:54.000 Wait, is that Nikki Haley?

01:45:56.000 Oh, we're saved.

01:45:57.000 Nikki, you can accept the nomination, right?

01:46:00.000 Oh, but I guess I can.

01:46:02.000 Wow.

01:46:02.000 I think that would cause a civil war.

01:46:07.000 Yeah.

01:46:08.000 Do the rules say he has to be physically present to accept a nomination?

01:46:11.000 No, I don't know.

01:46:12.000 I'm just being hyperbolic.

01:46:14.000 I'm just saying, like, they're going to try and block him from going to the convention, and he's going to be in prison, so he won't have access to Zoom or anything.

01:46:21.000 Well, I mean, if he does, like, if he's able to Zoom into whatever's going on.

01:46:26.000 Yeah, like, with a lawyer present.

01:46:27.000 I'm sure they do, you know.

01:46:29.000 Hearings that way.

01:46:30.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, if he is able to, like, virtually conference in, Democrats are gonna be like, well, you guys can't be mad that Biden did it virtually then, because Trump had to do it because he's in jail.

01:46:38.000 It could all be a ruse to let Biden do it.

01:46:39.000 That's the whole plan.

01:46:41.000 ZK Mudd says, question for Brandon.

01:46:42.000 As a former leftist who voted for Obama twice, Brandon's 2018 video opened my eyes to leftist indoctrination.

01:46:50.000 What is WalkAway doing this year for the coming election and the growing movement with minority communities rejecting the Democratic Party?

01:46:56.000 Nice.

01:46:57.000 Appreciate that, whatever his name was.

01:47:04.000 So we have a couple of really awesome things coming up.

01:47:07.000 We're going to be in Chicago.

01:47:09.000 And over the next couple of months, we're doing several events, including we're actually

01:47:12.000 planning a protest of the DNC convention in Chicago in mid to late August, somewhere around

01:47:17.000 the 18th, provided that it does end up being a live event, not a virtual event.

01:47:23.000 We have a really cool contest that we're going to be running.

01:47:25.000 We're going to be giving away a $10,000 prize to the best walk away video.

01:47:29.000 So we'll be announcing the walkway $10,000 testimonial video challenge in the next few

01:47:34.000 weeks.

01:47:35.000 So be paying attention to that.

01:47:36.000 I would just tell people follow our new Facebook group, hashtag walkway campaign and join our

01:47:40.000 app.

01:47:41.000 But we have some really cool stuff coming and we'll be telling you guys all about that.

01:47:44.000 Is Facebook your main platform then?

01:47:46.000 Like, are you on X or Twitter or whatever it's called?

01:47:48.000 Well, so we're, it's community.

01:47:51.000 So we definitely want people who are making walkway videos, share them everywhere.

01:47:54.000 TikTok, X, share them everywhere.

01:47:55.000 But X doesn't really allow you to have like groups and community and you know, everyone's kind of on their own posting.

01:48:01.000 So yeah, so our Facebook group is where our community lives.

01:48:04.000 We'd grown to over half a million people.

01:48:05.000 Now we're rebuilding because they banned the community.

01:48:08.000 And then our app, we also have our community there as well.

01:48:11.000 So, Walkway Social is our app.

01:48:13.000 Walkway Campaign on Facebook is our group.

01:48:15.000 Sam T says, I was planning to immigrate to the USA via the investor path, but I have lost all faith today.

01:48:20.000 Even though I strongly believe in the Constitution, it seems that it's being used as a toilet paper and is sadly a dead document.

01:48:26.000 It is.

01:48:26.000 I wonder where the president's from.

01:48:30.000 Like, why would you?

01:48:31.000 I mean, I understand why you want to be in America, but maybe you should invest in your own country.

01:48:34.000 I feel like that's a good thing to do, too.

01:48:36.000 Because America is the best.

01:48:38.000 Oh, I love it here.

01:48:38.000 I think it's great.

01:48:39.000 But I encourage everyone to have their own national pride and to stay where they are and not come here.

01:48:44.000 You're going to renounce your... don't you have like a bunch of citizenship?

01:48:46.000 Oh, I've got tons.

01:48:47.000 You're going to get them up?

01:48:48.000 Well, my brother was in the Marine Corps and he was an intelligence officer and he did have to give up all his citizenship so he could only have security clearance if he was an American.

01:48:56.000 And I would definitely be willing to do it under those circumstances.

01:49:00.000 But these guys, you know, they want to have two.

01:49:03.000 You know, you've got a couple.

01:49:04.000 I could give them up.

01:49:05.000 I wouldn't care about it.

01:49:06.000 The question is always, and I'm not going to indulge it, but with some family stuff, is there a reason that I may have to leave America and be somewhere else?

01:49:13.000 Who knows?

01:49:14.000 But I don't think that asking people to give up a citizenship for America is a bad thing at all.

01:49:19.000 Did you say national pride?

01:49:22.000 That's extremist talk.

01:49:23.000 Take it easy over there. 0.80

01:49:26.000 Terrorist.

01:49:27.000 Why?

01:49:27.000 You think being proud of your country is a bad thing?

01:49:29.000 I think it's borderline white supremacist, yes.

01:49:34.000 Really? 0.58

01:49:34.000 No! 0.58

01:49:36.000 Interesting take.

01:49:37.000 No, no, no.

01:49:39.000 Chris Benoit says, I'm probably pronouncing your name wrong, I read that Biden admin just gave Ukraine the green light to use US weapons inside Russia.

01:49:46.000 Kind of convenient that they did this today when all eyes are on Trump New York.

01:49:48.000 Yep.

01:49:49.000 We're at war with Russia. 0.66

01:49:52.000 There's volunteers.

01:49:53.000 This is the funniest thing.

01:49:56.000 So a bunch of U.S.

01:49:57.000 personnel are fighting with U.S.

01:49:58.000 weapons funded by the United States, paid salaries by the United States, but they're private volunteers.

01:50:05.000 So that doesn't count as us being at war with Russia.

01:50:07.000 You think Russia thinks that? 1.00

01:50:09.000 Jeez, people are dumb. 1.00

01:50:11.000 Russia's like, we're at war with the U.S. 1.00

01:50:12.000 And the U.S.

01:50:13.000 is like, we are not involved at all.

01:50:15.000 We don't have boots on the ground.

01:50:17.000 It's private boots that are on the ground of Americans that we paid for. 0.70

01:50:20.000 We bought the boots.

01:50:21.000 Yeah, right.

01:50:22.000 Exactly.

01:50:24.000 All right.

01:50:26.000 Atlantis Lions says Brandon is a fearless hero.

01:50:29.000 He gave me the voice and courage to share my story with others.

01:50:31.000 The Timcast crew is based AF and I thank you for your amazing work and coffee.

01:50:35.000 Trump must win or we'll lose our culture and whatever is left of our country.

01:50:40.000 Shout out!

01:50:40.000 Thank you to whoever that was.

01:50:42.000 Castbrew.com Ian's Graphene Dream Coffee now available.

01:50:46.000 I actually haven't tried it yet.

01:50:47.000 It's the one I haven't because it's Ian's formula.

01:50:50.000 There's no graphene in it.

01:50:51.000 So you're safe.

01:50:52.000 It's just coffee, but it's low acidity.

01:50:54.000 So I'd be interested to try it out.

01:50:56.000 It's graphene flavored though, right?

01:50:57.000 You can taste the authentic taste of graphene.

01:51:00.000 I think graphene probably just tastes like charcoal.

01:51:02.000 Well, let's find out!

01:51:03.000 Probably flavorless, right?

01:51:06.000 What do we have?

01:51:06.000 Let's go.

01:51:09.000 What have we here?

01:51:11.000 Son of Chad says in Marvel Civil War event in the comics Captain America was arrested and while in custody he was assassinated.

01:51:17.000 Trump is our Captain America.

01:51:19.000 If the worst happens to Trump akin to Marvel Civil War, who picks up the torch?

01:51:24.000 Trump would likely go to a minimum security facility where I doubt anything would happen to him.

01:51:29.000 He's got secret service protection wherever he goes.

01:51:31.000 I really don't think anything will happen to him.

01:51:34.000 I don't know, he may end up in jail, though.

01:51:36.000 Is that person asking, though, who, like, would he drop out of the race?

01:51:40.000 And who would take over?

01:51:42.000 No, if he's unable to because he no longer exists.

01:51:44.000 Uh-oh.

01:51:47.000 Yeah.

01:51:48.000 Dark. 0.73

01:51:50.000 Next, the Slayer says Michael Cohen admits to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars.

01:51:53.000 Stormy Daniels proven to be a liar by Bill Maher.

01:51:55.000 Judge tells the jury they don't need to agree on underlying crime.

01:51:58.000 Trial took place in D plus 20 territory.

01:52:00.000 Did I miss anything?

01:52:03.000 Yeah, Stormy Daniels also lost, I think she lost a defamation case against Trump.

01:52:06.000 Is that what happened?

01:52:08.000 Stormy Daniels did, yeah.

01:52:09.000 Yeah, she owes him a lot of money.

01:52:10.000 Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

01:52:11.000 Yeah.

01:52:12.000 So there's that.

01:52:14.000 It was a weird witness list.

01:52:16.000 Like, considering the fact that he got convicted on everything, like, they weren't sending their best, if you know what I'm saying.

01:52:21.000 Well, it's kind of like, it would be weirder if he only got convicted on, like, a few things.

01:52:24.000 That would lend it more credibility to somebody, but, like, the fact that it's just, I mean, it kind of had to be all of them.

01:52:30.000 Because why not?

01:52:31.000 They knew not to televise it.

01:52:33.000 I mean, that's... If we actually saw what was going on in this courtroom, the whole thing would be over.

01:52:40.000 Justin McInnes says, do you think that Trump could sue the judge because of the gross misconduct on the bench?

01:52:45.000 Malicious prosecution.

01:52:47.000 He could go after all of them.

01:52:51.000 All that really matters is who has power.

01:52:52.000 Nothing else matters.

01:52:53.000 If Trump becomes president, then these people are going to be crying.

01:52:58.000 I would not be surprised if Judge Merchant flees the country November 6, if they report Trump as the winner.

01:53:04.000 Gone.

01:53:06.000 Because his daughter is fundraising off the case, basically.

01:53:11.000 Laura Loomer reported that clients of the judge's daughter were given seats in the courtroom.

01:53:18.000 It's just like, yeah, we know what's going on.

01:53:22.000 And if Trump gets a real AG in there, these people are going to go to prison for a very, very, very long time.

01:53:28.000 Well, and if I'm right, and the gag order is still in effect until he gets sentenced, you know, he's not allowed to talk about this in the lead-up to the RNC, that he's not allowed to go to because of sentencing.

01:53:37.000 Hypothetically, we'll see what happens.

01:53:38.000 And then during this whole time, he can't file an appeal, so he's not able to immediately start formally offering a counter-argument.

01:53:47.000 He's not allowed to do anything until they decide the next big headline, a.k.a.

01:53:50.000 whatever his sentence is.

01:53:52.000 They may just fine him.

01:53:53.000 That way, he pays it, and now he's a convicted felon.

01:53:57.000 But I have a feeling they may try to delay sentencing in some way, because the longer Trump can't appeal, the better for them to be able to say in the campaign he's a convicted felon.

01:54:07.000 And if I'm not wrong, his legal team asked for it to be like mid to late July, I assume after the RNC, for a reason, which also I assume they calculated we may not be able to appeal early, but at least he'll be, you know, at the RNC for the nomination or whatever they're weighing in their minds and their conversations.

01:54:27.000 Andrew Ho says, Remember Trump on Oprah in 1988?

01:54:29.000 His stances have not changed.

01:54:32.000 The neocons ruined the USA and the rest of the world with their never-ending wars.

01:54:36.000 Trump came in in 2016 and broke them.

01:54:38.000 Revenge by neocons has been running since.

01:54:43.000 John Bolton.

01:54:44.000 That guy's tweeting up a storm.

01:54:46.000 He's not a good person. 0.91

01:54:47.000 He's a warmonger. 0.98

01:54:48.000 He's pissed. 0.82

01:54:50.000 Let's grab some more superchats.

01:54:53.000 What is this?

01:54:57.000 Tortle says, I'm going to vote for Donald Trump, and that's it.

01:55:00.000 The Republicans sat around and did nothing.

01:55:02.000 I have no faith in the justice system or government.

01:55:05.000 If there's an independent, I'll vote for them.

01:55:07.000 I really don't care.

01:55:08.000 You got to vote Republican all the way across the board.

01:55:10.000 What you got to do, though, is make sure people like Brandon Herrera win their primaries.

01:55:15.000 So if Trump wins and the Democrats take Congress, he will be impeached and convicted in three seconds.

01:55:22.000 Count them.

01:55:22.000 One, two, three.

01:55:22.000 Three.

01:55:24.000 So if you're voting, and you're voting for Trump, you gotta vote Republican.

01:55:28.000 Don't take it.

01:55:29.000 Even if you don't like him.

01:55:33.000 The path to getting rid of the rhinos and the bad politicians is the primary.

01:55:38.000 P. Dietl says, the Biden regime is illegitimate.

01:55:42.000 Okay.

01:55:43.000 Hear, hear.

01:55:45.000 What have we?

01:55:47.000 John L. says, an idle mind is the devil's playground.

01:55:49.000 True quote.

01:55:51.000 Oof.

01:55:53.000 Cowboy Rob says, what if it came out that Trump actually won in 2020 so he can't become president again because he's already had two terms?

01:55:58.000 He hasn't had two terms.

01:56:00.000 Right.

01:56:01.000 You can't have two terms, but Trump was never sworn in to serve a second term, so if they claim he won in 2020, he would just, I don't know, be able to go after him criminally or something?

01:56:10.000 I suppose.

01:56:13.000 What have we here?

01:56:14.000 Justin Bess says, Don't say too much, but Army Reserve employees that work at DOD are taking leave from work in November due to being deployed to Washington, D.C.

01:56:24.000 Little weird, huh?

01:56:25.000 The info came from one of those Army Reservists.

01:56:28.000 That would be interesting to investigate.

01:56:29.000 I don't know, you want to Google that real quick?

01:56:32.000 Maybe there's information on that.

01:56:33.000 Army Reserve employees that work at the DOD taking leave in November.

01:56:38.000 I mean, I gotta be honest.

01:56:40.000 I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of cops are like, I'm sick that week and won't be able to come in because it is gonna be nuts.

01:56:48.000 Yeah.

01:56:49.000 Yeah.

01:56:51.000 What have we here?

01:56:55.000 S.A.

01:56:55.000 Federali says everything that's happening needs to be put in the context of Democrats questioning every election since Bush.

01:57:00.000 Hillary saying women abandoned her in 2016.

01:57:03.000 You didn't vote right.

01:57:04.000 It's already begun.

01:57:06.000 Yep.

01:57:08.000 Yes, indeed.

01:57:10.000 Let's, uh, let's refresh and grab some more.

01:57:12.000 We got a bunch of super chats here.

01:57:13.000 We have too many, too many super chats.

01:57:18.000 Darth Plagueis the Wise says, what about USA weapons being green-lighted by Biden?

01:57:23.000 Is it green-lighted?

01:57:25.000 Green-lit.

01:57:26.000 That's what they said.

01:57:27.000 Green-lighted by Biden for use in the, in the Russia-sha by Ukraine.

01:57:33.000 The Russia-sha. 0.86

01:57:34.000 That's right.

01:57:36.000 Yep.

01:57:38.000 Dirtman says, dude, talk about Lincoln creating the Homestead Act and it dying quietly, ending the Cold War in 1976.

01:57:47.000 Wait, what?

01:57:49.000 And the endless benefits the Americans would have if it was revived.

01:57:53.000 What is that?

01:57:55.000 The Homestead Act?

01:57:57.000 I'm not familiar.

01:58:01.000 All right, 3ifbytreachery says, the conversation between Tim and Brandon about changing political views is interesting.

01:58:06.000 I don't think Tim has changed since I saw him on Rogan with Dorsey and Gatte.

01:58:11.000 IMO, the 90% of non-psycho people are recognizing they are more similar than different. 0.67

01:58:17.000 Yeah, if I took the political compass test right now, it would probably be, like, center-left libertarian, you know?

01:58:24.000 And it would say, like, traditional liberal or something like that.

01:58:27.000 Maybe the guns make me a little bit more centrist.

01:58:30.000 But none of that matters anymore.

01:58:33.000 Yeah.

01:58:33.000 When Gamergate was happening, a lot of the people who were called far right were actually left libertarians.

01:58:38.000 They were like, basically Bernie bros.

01:58:40.000 Yeah.

01:58:41.000 And they were being called right wing because they disagreed on the crack pottery of wokeism.

01:58:46.000 Right.

01:58:47.000 Yep.

01:58:49.000 The Arctic Operator says, Tim, do you think Trump will actually go to jail?

01:58:54.000 Well, we talked about this during the show.

01:58:56.000 I don't know, but I would not be surprised.

01:58:57.000 I think Brandon made a really good point that The worst may come.

01:59:02.000 You know, I was thinking house arrest probably makes a lot of sense, but considering they have no choice but to go 100%, I mean, when they were planning this, they probably sat down and said, look, if you do this, you can't stop halfway.

01:59:16.000 And then, you know, and then Hillary Clinton is sitting there talking with Bragg and them, and she's like, a rocket ship on the way to the moon doesn't stop halfway.

01:59:23.000 No, it keeps going.

01:59:24.000 And then she played the Andrew Tate video for him.

01:59:29.000 Alright, Mr. Wiseguy says, the entire NYPD after today that keeps a badge is a traitor.

01:59:35.000 Oh, you see what I'm saying?

01:59:36.000 For what reason would anyone have to stay on in New York government right now?

01:59:42.000 Unless they're in on it.

01:59:45.000 Like, dude, you can't come to me and be like, I have no choice but to serve the evil regime.

01:59:51.000 I'm just a henchman, it's not my fault.

01:59:53.000 I'll be like, dude, come on. 0.66

01:59:54.000 It's like, you're a bad guy.

01:59:57.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

01:59:58.000 Like, you're a villain. 0.98

02:00:00.000 Those cops that were in the courtroom that were facilitating all this, I think they're evil. 0.98

02:00:04.000 I think they are literally evil.

02:00:06.000 It's the banality of evil. 0.54

02:00:07.000 The cops in the courtroom who are like, better me than someone else, you're evil. 0.99

02:00:12.000 You're all evil people. 0.99

02:00:14.000 The cops that protected the Black Lives Matter mural that was illegally painted in front of Trump's building when de Blasio stole taxpayer money to do it, those cops are evil. 1.00

02:00:24.000 And most of them don't care. 0.83

02:00:26.000 They're gonna go, I don't know, I'm getting paid.

02:00:28.000 Don't care.

02:00:29.000 I'm like, okay, great. 0.84

02:00:29.000 Then you're evil, whatever. 0.84

02:00:31.000 So people are gonna keep saying, blindly back the blue.

02:00:33.000 Nah, I'll back the blue when the blue is good.

02:00:38.000 City Cloud says, I was hanging out in Luke's studio pre-Assange's Brothers interview.

02:00:42.000 I seen you and wanted to ask for a picture, but felt so rude so I didn't.

02:00:45.000 How do you feel about fans asking for pictures?

02:00:48.000 I take pictures with everyone.

02:00:50.000 Anybody walks up, they say a picture, I say, okay.

02:00:53.000 Why not?

02:00:54.000 What am I here for if I don't take pictures of the people?

02:00:56.000 It's 50 bucks.

02:00:57.000 It's free!

02:00:59.000 It's free.

02:01:00.000 Anybody who walks up wants a picture.

02:01:01.000 Man, I am grateful that you guys want pictures with me.

02:01:05.000 Man, it's kind of crazy.

02:01:05.000 Same.

02:01:06.000 So it's greatly appreciated and I will absolutely always take the time out for you guys to take a picture.

02:01:12.000 So I really do appreciate it.

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02:01:54.000 Brandon, do you want to shout anything out?

02:01:55.000 Yeah, I just want to say it was an honor to spend this really crazy, tragic day with you guys and be able to have this conversation and of course with your audience.

02:02:04.000 Yeah, I would just say if anybody's watching right now on YouTube, just give WalkAway YouTube channel a follow.

02:02:10.000 And I'm on YouTube as well, Brandon Strock.

02:02:12.000 And give me a follow on X, at Brandon Strock.

02:02:14.000 My last name is spelled S-T-R-A-K-A.

02:02:16.000 Have a good night.

02:02:16.000 Thanks, guys.

02:02:19.000 For anyone who's wondering what they can do to help, I know it seems really glum right now.

02:02:24.000 For me, it's writing songs.

02:02:25.000 I got two in mind that are very at the top right now that we're working on, but find something you're really good at and do that to influence other people.

02:02:35.000 And get fit!

02:02:36.000 Yeah, and get fit!

02:02:38.000 Carter goes to the gym.

02:02:39.000 I do!

02:02:40.000 Anyway, you can find me everywhere at Carter Banks, particularly YouTube, Twitter.

02:02:44.000 Hang on, Claire.

02:02:45.000 Yeah, thanks for being here tonight, guys.

02:02:47.000 It's such a crazy world out there.

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02:03:03.000 Definitely get ready to vote this November.

02:03:05.000 It's going to be crazy.

02:03:06.000 Bye, Serge!

02:03:07.000 See you later.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - May 30, 2024

TRUMP FOUND GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS, Trial Was Rigged, Case Was FAKE w-Brandon Straka | Timcast IRL

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