Trump has been found guilty on all 34 counts. They are now calling him a convicted felon, but sentencing has not yet happened. That will be July 11th, 4 days before the Republican National Convention, so without wasting any time, we re going to jump straight into the major breaking news.
00:02:53.000Conviction comes when the sentencing is entered into the court, and then they apply the sentence.
00:02:57.000Now, there's a possibility they may just fine Trump some light little garbage fine.
00:03:04.000Maybe they say, you know, $300,000 fine for this and have a nice day just so that they can say he's a convicted felon.
00:03:11.000But I wonder if there's a possibility.
00:03:13.000I don't think prison is within the realm of possibility, but I wonder if they try to house arrest Donald Trump to Trump Tower right before the RNC so that he cannot be present for the nomination.
00:03:26.000I mean, I think there's a very good chance of that.
00:03:28.000The other thing that, from what I understand, the gag order is still in effect until sentencing is over and his team can't formally appeal until he's been sentenced.
00:03:35.000And so, you know, the final, let's say, six weeks until the RNC convention, Trump is not able to formally fight back and he's also limited in how he's allowed to discuss this case.
00:03:49.000Hard not to think of the worst outcomes right now.
00:03:55.000Obviously, one of the things that goes into sentencing right now is the fact that it's a nonviolent crime, he's older, and he has no criminal history.
00:04:03.000But if he is convicted and sentenced, he does have a criminal history, and that will affect sentencing in any federal case going forward.
00:04:11.000Can I just be here tonight to provide the doomsday opinion like through the entire show?
00:04:15.000Yeah, because I mean like I was listening to people's opinions on the drive over here on Newsmax and Fox and everyone, literally everyone unanimously was saying, you know, like, oh, he's not going to go to prison.
00:04:30.000Look, I have seen too much in my own experience, my tango with the justice system over the last three years, and I really think people are not getting it or they're not paying attention if they still think that precedence is taking place here or that we're somehow adhering to justice norms.
00:04:51.000I think that house arrest is guaranteed at minimum, and I think they'll absolutely put him in jail.
00:05:42.000When they do say, Trump, you're going to go to prison for, we'll call it 18 months and then two years of probation or something, the response in the media is going to be like, he was convicted on 34 felonies.
00:05:53.000Of course he's going to get locked up.
00:05:55.000Not to mention that, but the reason why so many people are saying, oh, he'll never spend time behind bars is actually the reason they will put him behind bars.
00:06:05.000The fact that he's a former president is not going to help him.
00:06:08.000What the judge is going to say, and again, I'm not trying to make this all about my situation, but I saw firsthand federal judges take Non-cases and act like they were literally sentencing 9-11 terrorists, right?
00:06:24.000And so this judge is going to say, you want to hold the highest office in this land, but you can't even be counted on to run your business in a way that's not criminal.
00:06:36.000You have to spend time behind bars because the fact that you are such a corrupt human being and you want to hold the highest office in this land.
00:06:45.000It's going to treat him like a very serious threat to everyone around him, even though it's a non-violent crime.
00:06:49.000And to be fair, Judge Juan Roshan has already threatened him with jail time, right?
00:06:52.000When he violated the gag order, he had these nine fines he had to pay, and then ultimately he was like, I could send you to jail over this.
00:07:04.000Something important to add for everybody who's watching.
00:07:06.000We do not know what Trump was convicted of.
00:07:11.000We know that there is a crime falsifying business records.
00:07:15.000It is a misdemeanor and it's beyond its statute of limitations.
00:07:20.000It can be, through extenuating circumstances, they can upgrade it to a felony if it was falsifying business records to conceal a secondary crime.
00:07:32.000We still do not know what that secondary crime is.
00:07:37.000There were three potential unlawful acts that may have occurred.
00:07:41.000The judge instructed the jury that of those three, they do not need to be unanimous.
00:07:46.000It could be Trump falsified business records in an effort to falsify other business... I'm not kidding.
00:07:53.000The judge's instructions were basically, if Trump falsified business records, and you all agree that he did, We need to then figure out what unlawful means he was covering up with it.
00:08:23.000It was not in the court case what secondary crime the jury believes Trump committed.
00:08:28.000Now, the options the judge gave the jury was one.
00:08:32.000Falsifying additional business records, two, federal election violations, and three, improper tax filings.
00:08:40.000I think it's fairly obvious that it is likely the jury chose federal election violation because the prosecution stated in their closing arguments, this is a federal election violation.
00:09:11.000The judge actually said, in these instructions, and this is probably why the jury was confused, if you believe that Donald Trump A. falsified business records to conceal a secondary crime, and that secondary crime was falsifying other business records, then vote guilty.
00:09:31.000So just to clarify again, some of these jurors may actually think So Trump ordered Cohen to falsify these records so that he could cover up that he falsified other records.
00:09:42.000Effectively, two misdemeanors that they're arguing when combined become a felony.
00:09:56.000So we don't know how this became a felony at all.
00:10:03.000This is just something that they said, it's definitely a felony, it's definitely a felony, and at no point they had to prove it.
00:10:08.000And this is where it comes down like, on appeal we know that there's a lot of stuff that Trump's team could argue.
00:10:13.000The legal theory behind this is so weirdly woven together, it's not really credible.
00:10:18.000And it really seemed to me, from the outside perspective, that so much of it came down to what the judge was willing to allow.
00:10:25.000I mean, obviously people talk about this all the time.
00:10:26.000The judge has his own ties to supporting Biden.
00:10:28.000His daughter has her own political activities.
00:10:31.000But ultimately, it is completely crazy to me that the prosecutors didn't have to clearly present what felony Trump had apparently committed, what crime he was convicted of covering up, and yet we were allowed to try him.
00:10:50.000I want to make sure that this story is included in the segment so that in the event you end up sharing this segment with friends and family members, you can see this post from the New York Post.
00:10:59.000CNN's Fareed Zakaria admits prosecutors would never have filed hush money charges against anyone whose name was not Trump.
00:11:10.000Whatever opposition he faced in the primaries has largely melted away.
00:11:14.000And the trials against him keep him in the spotlight, infuriate his base, who sees him as a martyr, and even may serve to make him the object of some sympathy among people in general who believe that his prosecutors are politically motivated.
00:11:31.000This happens to be true, in my opinion.
00:11:32.000And I doubt the New York indictment would have been brought against a defendant whose
00:12:32.000And they have no idea what is actually happening.
00:12:36.000This was likely the intention of the Democrats involved.
00:12:40.000They know that the average person will not be paying attention to the finer details of how they lied, cheated, and stole their way into political power.
00:12:49.000I mean, there was a poll from, I think it was Emerson College, that they were saying basically 55% of Americans say they've not been closely following this trial at all.
00:12:58.000But this is so meteoric that it's going to puncture through people who even are not interested in politics, right?
00:13:05.000People are going to see the headline, Trump convicted, which is, I think, ultimately any sort of progressive activist's dream.
00:13:11.000They want it to be like, but wasn't he convicted?
00:13:14.000Because the immediate news headlines that I got hit with after was, can he still hold office?
00:13:18.000It was crazy because yeah I barely paid attention to this either because I just thought it was so ridiculous it would get thrown out way before it got here and then finally I'm tuning in to watch like the verdict watch and then be right and then you see these pretty little red boom boom boom boom convicted convicted you know all this on the TV was almost like programming in my mind like this looks really bad but the more I listen to it it's like this actually doesn't make any sense at all.
00:14:37.000And a convicted tax evader who lied under oath and also admitted on the stand that he'd been stealing from Donald Trump during this whole thing.
00:14:44.000Weren't they instructed to not take his testimony into account at the end?
00:14:49.000The jury instructions were so bizarre.
00:14:52.000I mean I just felt like they were very strange the whole time.
00:14:54.000No wonder the jury had to come back today and say Because they weren't allowed to have a copy of the instructions, which they found very strange.
00:17:19.000Every inch has been searched for Trump corruption while Joe Biden's involvement with foreign countries through Hunter have been swept under the rug.
00:17:26.000Three strikes for thee, but not for me.
00:17:28.000Joe Biden was the architect of the 1994 crime bill.
00:17:31.000Crack cocaine in particular, the 1986 Anti-Drug Abuse Act, etc.
00:17:36.000He says the election interference case, the classified documents case, the Georgia interference case, the hush money case, bank fraud, sexual assault, all of these cases are too complicated for most to follow, almost by design.
00:17:47.000As someone that has been following the cases closely, I've had the opposite reaction of what was intended.
00:17:53.000Every single case seems to have had impropriety and B, after going through Trump's entire life, if these are the worst things they can find, he did less wrong than I otherwise would have assumed.
00:18:03.000He goes on to mention that he disagrees on domestic policy and many other things.
00:18:06.000Now, the curious thing is where exactly he's going to be putting his $300,000.
00:19:14.000They're going to be like, if he were to win the election, he'd be like, he's in prison.
00:19:18.000Now he's going to try and take over New York and do all these crazy things and appoints his AG.
00:19:22.000It's going to be hysteria from the left for so long.
00:19:26.000And I think what's interesting is, again, I'm going to go back to this Marist poll that I was referencing before.
00:19:30.000They found that for 64% of voters, a conviction didn't matter.
00:19:34.000It wouldn't change the way they're voting and that was even higher as over 70% among independents, right?
00:19:40.000It's interesting that there's sort of the political class that is, this is really changing how they think they're going to lay out their roadmap for the rest of the year.
00:19:48.000But for voters, they were already split.
00:19:51.000You were kind of talking about this, like there might be some people are saying enough is enough.
00:19:54.000I really need to back Donald Trump now.
00:19:56.000But for the most part, people feel as though their minds are made up.
00:19:58.000And so it really feels to me like a lot of this is just to try and slow Trump down.
00:20:03.000It just reminds me of when he was giving that speech about Venezuela, like, 2016, maybe a little bit before that.
00:20:10.000It was just like, whenever he said he was the only one standing in between them and us, and they're throwing everything they can at this guy, and that's just terrifying me, because, I mean, anyone else... This is a system that will be left if this continues.
00:20:26.000Well, that's the whole thing, is that they, for three, four years now, they've been normalizing Pushing the boundary, pushing the boundary, pushing the boundary.
00:20:36.000And if this is allowed to stand, and if he doesn't win the election for some reason, this is just the new normal now.
00:20:43.000And for any Republican who ever tries to run again, this is what the Democrats will do.
00:20:49.000And they'll have them charged in some jurisdiction in which they're guaranteed some sort of victory.
00:20:56.000And this is how we'll have to deal with Democrats now.
00:21:00.000And I have to think for the average American, this is disheartening, right?
00:21:03.000Basically, New York is controlling your election.
00:21:06.000So if you're from, you know, North Dakota, you're from, you know, New Mexico, whatever, like, this city, basically, this state government decided what was going to happen for the election, you must not feel like you're actually represented.
00:21:18.000How is this not election interference?
00:22:11.000Whoever loses in November will go to jail.
00:22:16.000Assuming Biden has the health in November, he's very old, if Biden loses, the AG gets appointed, they start digging through Biden's crimes, the Clintons and all of that, and they're going to go to jail.
00:22:32.000Unless, for some reason, Trump just says, no, no, we're not going to lock him up like he did last time.
00:23:31.000Right, but they're calling it election interference.
00:23:33.000And it was already determined to not be a crime.
00:23:36.000The Federal Elections Commission and the Department of Justice both said there was no crime.
00:23:41.000So the number three guy in the DOJ resigns, goes to New York, takes a job just to prosecute Trump.
00:23:47.000Probably because his bosses said, no, there's nothing here.
00:23:50.000Right, because this has been turned down multiple times before.
00:23:53.000Trump was saying this when he was delivering remarks before today.
00:23:58.000This morning, he was saying like, this isn't a crime, but even if it was, it should have been brought before 2019.
00:24:04.000But conveniently, they held off until we're in the middle of a presidential election.
00:24:08.000But they're also telling you it's not political.
00:24:10.000How stupid do they think the American public, even Americans who don't support Trump, at a certain point, you know this is political just given the timing.
00:24:32.000Now, it seems like Judge Cannon, that's the documents case, right, is actually basically pushing back on these corrupt Democrats, like, no, you can't do these things.
00:24:42.000We'll see how that ends up working out, because this is a You know, there are a lot of people posting things about civil war or war and conflict.
00:24:50.000Whoever had the bet that it would take 24 minutes, congratulations.
00:25:07.000Politico had the story just the other day, and so they're just going to try and stop Trump in any way imaginable.
00:25:13.000They're on TV smiling and laughing, saying, this is how we win.
00:25:17.000I think people on the right and regular working-class Americans who don't pay much attention do not understand the plague of evil that exists in this country of people in power who hate you, don't care to play fair, they want to win, and then they want to spit on you and tell you that they will do anything to maintain power, and your rules are meaningless.
00:26:12.000So when they go on TV, when Fareed Zakaria says, this is only because it's Donald Trump, and then other people on CNN are like, well, this is a good thing, isn't it?
00:26:27.000But let's jump to the next story because we have a statement from the Biden-Harris campaign.
00:26:33.000I love how they call it the Biden-Harris campaign because they have to do that because they expect Joe Biden to hand off power to Kamala Harris at some point.
00:27:00.000In New York today, we saw that no one is above the law.
00:27:03.000Donald Trump has always mistakenly believed he would never face consequences for breaking the law for his own personal gain.
00:27:09.000But today's verdict does not change the fact that the American people face a simple reality.
00:27:14.000There is still only one way to keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office at the ballot box.
00:27:18.000Convicted felon or not, Trump will be the Republican nominee for president.
00:27:23.000The threat Trump poses to our democracy has never been greater.
00:27:26.000He is running an increasingly unhinged campaign of revenge and retribution, pledging to be a dictator on day one, and calling for our Constitution to be terminated so we can regain and keep power.
00:27:37.000A second Trump term means chaos, ripping away Americans' freedoms, and fomenting political violence, and the American people will reject it this November.
00:27:45.000The fascinating thing is, The only way you believe this is if you don't pay attention.
00:27:51.000Anyone, like we saw with that gentleman, Sean McGuire, I think, who was donating to the Trump campaign, he said he bought the Kool-Aid.
00:28:40.000They lied and claimed that Donald Trump—this is Joe Biden, his whole campaign, his whole path—claimed that Donald Trump called neo-Nazis very fine people.
00:29:50.000No, Donald Trump did not explicitly call Nazis very fine people.
00:29:53.000He made a controversial statement during a press conference about the Charlottesville rally where he said there were very fine people on both sides, but he also condemned neo-Nazis and white nationalists in the same statement.
00:30:14.000I just asked it right now in real time.
00:30:16.000Certainly, it must be an error in the programming.
00:30:20.000No, the reality is Trump never said it.
00:30:22.000In the same breath, Trump said there were people who just didn't want to see a statue torn down, very fine people on both sides, including Antifa, including the people who wanted the statues.
00:30:33.000And he says, but not the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists.
00:30:38.000Yet here is the Biden administration once again lying about all of it.
00:30:44.000I think this is another example of the Biden administration trying to redirect the American public's attention towards something that allows them to be on the attack, right?
00:30:52.000They can spend all day being like, well, Trump said this and he's so bad.
00:30:56.000You know, he said this was a windshield and it's definitely not, which questionable, but It makes the media about focusing on perceived wrongs from Donald Trump instead of having to hold Biden to account for the economy, hold Biden to account for the border, hold Biden to account for our declining birth rate and our terrible education system.
00:31:14.000Like anything that voters really, really care about.
00:31:19.000Donald Trump's campaign has to, but the Biden campaign can focus on specifically attacking Donald Trump when actually he's the incumbent who has a terrible record right now.
00:31:31.000He should be the one having to defend all of this stuff.
00:31:33.000And instead, all of the media is like, no, we won't ask him any hard questions.
00:31:38.000We are just going to focus on our number one enemy at all times, Donald Trump.
00:31:42.000Right, it's crazy because they're not really giving any actual solutions to like, well, if it's not Donald Trump, who is it going to be on their side at least?
00:31:49.000I'll just ask everybody listening right now.
00:32:55.000Brandon, do you think that these kind of kitchen table issues, like the economy, like the border, like things that people talk about in their homes with their families, are Things that inspire people to leave the Democratic Party or to move from independent to more engaged in conservative issues?
00:33:09.000I mean, I think that depending on what's happening culturally, there are different reasons.
00:33:13.000I mean, we had the biggest influx of people in 2020 that we ever had, and that was largely because of what BLM was doing and because of the COVID lockdowns.
00:33:21.000So different issues affect different people, you know, differently, obviously.
00:33:26.000But like, if you look right now, Every sect of people are claiming economy, border, these are the things that are most important to them, except white women who care more about abortion than anything else.
00:33:40.000No other issue is more important to them than abortion.
00:33:43.000Now these are the same people that are calling everybody else privileged.
00:33:47.000And screaming at everybody how there's this privilege hierarchy that they don't get to enjoy.
00:33:53.000But I think to myself, how privileged do you have to be if you don't even care about the economy going to hell, if you don't care about our border going to hell, but the most important issue in your life is whether or not you can abort a baby?
00:34:08.000I think all of this is, again, part of the issue, right?
00:34:12.000Nobody can pay attention to everything, right?
00:34:14.000No one's going to have an opinion on everything.
00:34:16.000If you do, you probably are not in touch with some other aspect of your life.
00:34:20.000But there are certain issues that I think either you feel really strong about because
00:34:24.000of personal experience or you are repeatedly told this is your demographics issue and if
00:34:31.000you don't talk about it all the time, then you are doing a disservice.
00:34:34.000So with women, I think this idea that not letting women abort their babies is an attack
00:34:39.000on women's freedom and it's going to make us all go back to the kitchen and do whatever,
00:34:43.000that is completely misrepresented and in fact is emotionally charged, right?
00:34:48.000It's playing on the guilt and the herd mentality that women tend to have to make them line
00:34:53.000up under a certain ideology as opposed to encouraging them to critically look at their
00:34:56.000lives and say what are the issues most affecting you?
00:34:58.000Oh wait, it's very difficult to afford to be alive right now.
00:35:01.000Maybe you should put that above this concept of abortion, which most of you won't have to deal with ever.
00:35:06.000Well, and I'll say too, because the question you had for me is the kitchen table issues and things like that.
00:35:11.000Right now, I think more than any other group in America, there is a large awakening happening within the black community.
00:35:17.000I think disproportionately, mostly this group.
00:35:20.000And if you look at why, It's a lot of black men, but it's also mothers, black mothers, who are seeing that their neighborhoods are now being invaded by illegal migrants.
00:35:32.000There is no safe place for their kids to go.
00:35:34.000The community centers, the YMCAs, the rec halls, the places where their kids could go play basketball, engage in activities, stay off the street, stay out of gangs.
00:35:43.000They're filling these places now with illegal migrants, and the kids who live in the neighborhoods are being thrown back out on the streets again.
00:35:51.000And the Black community, who's been manipulated for so long, is now starting to see, too, they were just using us.
00:35:58.000And now that they have this, like, new class of people that they're bringing in is obviously meant to be their new base they're going to replace the Black community with.
00:36:05.000People are waking up and they're getting it.
00:36:06.000And so I think when it hits home, when it hits their own communities and their own neighborhoods, that is absolutely something that's waking up a lot of people.
00:36:13.000I think that's a big reason why there's a story, which actually we'll get to in a little bit, where they're claiming that Trump said a racial slur and the video is somewhere but no one's ever seen it.
00:36:24.000They've been hunting for it for years.
00:36:26.000They are terrified that Trump's polls are actually improving among the black vote.
00:36:30.000When you look at the black vote, particularly 49 and under, It ranges from like 23 to 29 percent, depending on the poll.
00:36:38.000When you poll the black community 50 years and older, it's around 9 percent.
00:36:44.000So it's actually, Trump's doing really well with younger people in the black community.
00:36:48.000When you average it all out, it's hard to tell how well he's actually doing.
00:36:52.000Some polls say he's up 20 percent, some say 15.
00:37:45.000So when I go out and say, I am concerned about the economy in World War III, and you say, man, they try to lock him up for paying up his side hoe, I'd be like, well, as long as we agree to vote for him, whatever motivates you in the morning, I guess.
00:37:56.000Look, nobody likes any sort of justice system, right?
00:37:59.000Like, if you feel like you might be the victim of it, You don't like it.
00:38:03.000I think they're weirdly making him more relatable to tons of people who feel as though if they were to walk into a courtroom, it would be used against them always.
00:38:10.000So, you know, whatever you perceive this to be, I think, weirdly, it has made him a man of the people in a way that media did not.
00:38:19.000And I was really going to say just about the same thing.
00:38:22.000I mean, I think that for groups of people who have been saying for decades and generations that they feel like they're being targeted by the justice system and crying for criminal justice reform and supporting the party that actually is weaponizing the criminal justice system, I think they're looking at someone like Donald Trump and thinking to themselves, This guy gets it.
00:38:46.000I'm sure he's literally getting it, and now he probably gets it.
00:38:49.000And if I were somebody who felt like I was a part of a community that is being targeted by the justice system, I would want to vote for the person who has the justice system weaponized, pointed directly at them, who could potentially then go in there and do something about it and actually make the change.
00:39:28.000Like, was this the Dave Chappelle thing where he was like, he was inside the house, came out and said, hey, they're using all the secrets against you and whatever.
00:39:38.000And with not winning the 2020 election, like, then he is once again the outsider.
00:39:42.000He is both a former president who is now trying to go back to the White House and For a lot of people, it really reinforces this narrative that he is not of this system, like he's not a political elite.
00:39:56.000I remember before he launched his campaign, his re-election campaign, people were sort of saying, well, now he's a politician.
00:40:08.000No one seems to be welcoming him into the political race.
00:40:11.000It seems like at every turn there's an obstacle for Donald Trump.
00:40:14.000And I think American people who feel so disenfranchised and who feel a certain level of hopelessness, who feel like their lives are just constantly getting harder and harder, whether it be economic issues or social issues or whatever it is, He is relatable, despite the fact that he's a billionaire who's married to a former supermodel.
00:40:32.000Well, and Donald Trump has also kind of made it like badass to stand up to the system, you know, in a way.
00:40:40.000I'm one of many people who took a plea deal with January 6th, and now I kind of wish I could go back and just stand up to the system in a way because I think we keep looking to him like, what is going to be the thing that pushes him over the edge?
00:40:54.000What is going to be the thing that kind of brings Trump down?
00:41:00.000It's like he kind of shows us and teaches us in a way how you just roll with the punches and you keep going and you stand up and you fight another day and you keep going and you keep going.
00:41:09.000There's something really inspiring, I think, and really cool about the way that even though we all know the system is targeted against him or has targeted him, That he kind of – he comes out like a boss every time.
00:41:21.000He comes out as really authentic in my opinion.
00:41:23.000I think part of it is that the Biden administration seems to keep Biden distant from everyone.
00:41:29.000I had seen this report from a White House reporter who said there will be weeks that go by and Biden will be boarding the helicopters or whatever else and he won't say anything to them.
00:41:38.000They don't get a lot of public FaceTime with him.
00:41:41.000Despite the fact that they tried to be like, well, he was Obama's best friend and look, he's got grandchildren.
00:41:48.000He ultimately is very distant from the American people.
00:41:51.000And I think the last couple of years have only reinforced that.
00:41:54.000And, you know, say what you want about how he talks about things, but Trump is the first person to speak on his own behalf.
00:42:01.000He wants to be in front of the cameras, in front of the courtroom saying things.
00:42:04.000He wants to be the one that you hear from directly.
00:42:06.000And it just, again, if you're the American people feeling kind of hopeless, feeling kind of lost right now, You wouldn't want the guy who's kind of hiding away in Delaware, you would want the guy who is like, I am on the front lines like all of you.
00:42:17.000But he seems relatively unfazed by all of it.
00:42:20.000You know, I mean, none of it really, if there are moments behind closed doors where he feels in any way kind of brought down by this, we never see that.
00:43:19.000Yeah, there are people posting on X that he's part of a scam, he's friends with everybody, and he's another deep state guy, but they're pretending like he's not.
00:43:27.000There's always going to be a conspiracy theory.
00:43:33.000Well, it's interesting because they're like keeping him off the campaign trail, but they're still letting him say as much as he possibly wants to on TV.
00:43:41.000I just, I just think that they view it, they have no choice.
00:43:44.000They're sitting there going, yeah, this is going to blow up in our faces, but we literally have no other options.
00:43:55.000Well, and it keeps the attention off the Biden administration.
00:43:59.000Like, he is absorbing all these blows, and we all look to him.
00:44:01.000And I was about to say, well, Trump sets the news, but also it only helps Biden to, again, like I said before, have Trump be the one who has to answer all the questions, whatever else.
00:44:10.000Like, I saw this report today, Phil sent it to me, that apparently there's some unconfirmed reports that the Biden administration has authorized Ukraine to use U.S.
00:45:43.000And then have them confront Fareed Zakaria saying outright, this would not have been brought against anybody else.
00:45:48.000Yeah, for, I mean, like, with Facebook friends and stuff, for the longest time I was kind of afraid to say anything because I didn't want to be ostracized by, like, friends that were, you know, had opposite political views.
00:45:58.000But at this point, and I tweeted this earlier, it's like, if you don't see it, if you don't see behind the curtain now, you have to look harder or they're going to shut it forever.
00:46:33.000There's a viral video from the lockdowns where a guy who's wearing a mask is harassing a woman who's not wearing a mask in a supermarket, and he's screaming, how come we all have to wear masks and she doesn't?
00:46:44.000And that really exemplifies how many people behave and feel like children.
00:46:52.000And I think that's where the rage comes from, because I've had political conversations with people and they've gotten really angry, angrier and angrier.
00:47:00.000And I think the reason they're getting angry is that deep down they know they're wrong, but they're scared that if they say what's true, they'll get attacked for it.
00:47:08.000So in their minds, they're like, just go along with the mob and you will be safe.
00:47:21.000I mean, even now you've got that guy who donated $300K, likely to some kind of Trump PAC or fundraising committee, saying, I could lose friends and an opportunity over this.
00:47:31.000I think many other people just said, okay, at some point, and we're ready to give that stuff up.
00:47:37.000I also wonder if you maybe won't, like you might lose some of your friends, right?
00:47:41.000Some people will be like, that guy's awful.
00:47:43.000But I think, at least in my experience, especially as I've done more stuff with IRL and sort of talk more openly about the things I believe in, it is interesting to see how many people are like, It's all purple now.
00:48:06.000now than they were in 2016 and 2020, because you can't explain away why your grocery bills are so high, and you can't explain away why crime is on the rise.
00:48:16.000The level of uncertainty that people feel, the instability that people instinctively feel, I think it makes them more open to the idea that, yes, you may not like Trump, but we just can't continue with the way things are.
00:48:29.000And to circle back, I think the point I was trying to make was that You just gotta start openly saying like, yeah, this is what I think, and if, I mean, think of me what you want, but, um...
00:48:42.000Did you have a hard time with that, Brandon?
00:48:43.000Because that's basically what you had to start doing.
00:50:08.000And in two and a half years, we had over half a million people join our community and literally acquired tens of thousands of videos and written testimonials of people having this experience.
00:50:18.000And then Facebook banned us because we became so successful.
00:50:23.000So if anybody's out there, join our new Facebook group and join our app, WalkAway Social, because we're rebuilding the community.
00:50:29.000Let's jump to this story from Mediaite.
00:50:31.000Sean Davis, the CEO and co-founder of the right-wing website The Federalist, called on Republicans to drop a list of Democrats to put in prison after Trump's conviction.
00:50:40.000John Davis, the CEO and co-founder of the right-wing website The Federalist, called
00:50:44.000on Republicans to drop a list of Democrats to put in prison after Trump's conviction.
00:50:48.000He's saying, in 2016, the presidential race was decided based on candidates releasing
00:50:53.000lists of potential Supreme Court nominees.
00:50:55.000In 2024, I want to see lists of which Democrat officials are going to be put in prison.
00:51:00.000This is what happens when you cross the Rubicon.
00:51:03.000I think many people are saying this may be, the conviction of Donald Trump could be the crossing of the Rubicon by Democrats.
00:51:11.000No, I think it's the evidence that the Rubicon got crossed a long time ago.
00:51:17.000And perhaps it was when they brought the criminal charges in the first place.
00:51:21.000When they decided to make these moves to use the legal system to try and steal power in an election, that's when they crossed the Rubicon.
00:51:29.000The conviction of Donald Trump is when they actively started fighting.
00:51:46.000I mean, first off, Let the man talk, free speech.
00:51:50.000If he wants to make a list, that's great.
00:51:51.000I think part of the issue here is people want to take something that feels so wrong, like people who feel as though this trial was founded on terrible ideas, brought at the wrong time, people who believe this was sort of a corrupt process and who are really shocked by this conviction, they want to be able to feel like they can take action and move forward.
00:52:12.000So that's why you're seeing all this These donations come in, right?
00:52:15.000People are saying, I want to do something because this is wrong.
00:52:19.000I think being able to look back and say, I can't remember, one of the congressmen had a similar post that was like, the DAs and secretaries of states need to get active now.
00:52:29.000I'll look the tweet up to get more specific in a second.
00:52:31.000But this need to say, like, we aren't going to just sit by and let this happen.
00:52:37.000We are going to take action is serious.
00:53:18.000People are angry about this stuff and I mean to the point that you were making Hannah, it's like Sorry, I look over every time when someone does that sorry, there's no polite way to correct people on your first name.
00:53:56.000How bad does this have to get before something actually happens?
00:54:00.000I think people feel like there's a layer of protection that surrounds people who are elected officials, although obviously clearly there's not.
00:54:08.000But people need to feel like somebody is doing something, that they're looking out for them.
00:54:12.000Because people have their families to look out for.
00:56:24.000I mean, that would be one of the most devastating things.
00:56:27.000They're not going to go out and protest.
00:56:28.000They're just going to be like, I don't even know what the point, there's no government, so why am I paying?
00:56:32.000And then all of a sudden we just see what, like, April 2025 record low tax filing something from people who just don't think there's a government anymore?
00:56:40.000It's kind of a lose-lose situation because even if they succeed, by they I mean the ones doing this to Trump, then To me, it's like, what is this?
00:56:52.000They don't care if the system burns down.
00:56:54.000They're scared that they will lose power.
00:56:57.000And so these are the kind of people that are willing to throw wave after wave of their own men into killbots if it means they can stay in political power.
00:57:13.000The challenge, like you were saying before, the family is sort of this thing that keeps you together.
00:57:16.000If you know you could lose everything, a.k.a.
00:57:19.000your children, your marriage, the financial stability that you're trying to create for them, you act very differently than someone who is like, well, I don't care about anything.
00:57:27.000In fact, they're sort of an accelerationist.
00:57:29.000They're like, the only way to get through the system is to dismantle it.
00:57:33.000That is difficult to sort of compete with and I think that has always been the challenge between sort of more conservatively people versus more progressively people.
00:58:05.000And then the regions coalesce around their power structures, their urban centers and form their own independent nations after the fact.
00:58:13.000When you look at a lot of the civil wars throughout history, The difference between the United States Civil War versus, say, Spain or, you know, I guess you can call it the Bolshevik Revolution or the French Revolution, the size of the country.
00:58:26.000If you have one urban center of control, France, for instance, is about as big as Texas.
00:58:31.000So when the people are fighting over control of France, France doesn't really have a lot of room to break apart.
00:58:36.000The US Civil War was basically an alignment between different factions of states.
00:59:29.000My bigger concern is if, say, I don't know, South Dakota just says, after this, we are... What if it starts with some kind of gubernatorial boycotts of the federal government?
00:59:44.000Governors say, we will no longer coordinate with the federal government because of their actions, you know, or whatever.
00:59:52.000It may start with Republican states cutting off all ties to New York, saying we no longer have communications with or do business with the New York.
01:00:01.000And I think that's a real possibility.
01:00:04.000New York as a state is trying to shut down the presidential election for all of the other states.
01:00:09.000So if you're a red state right now, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Ken Paxton in Texas make this move, they say, New York has no authority to prevent the people of Texas voicing their opinion for who their president should be, and New York is interfering in the constitutionally protected practices that we all share under the Union, and then say, I mean, we might see states suing New York to the Supreme Court, calling this election interference at a federal level through the state courts.
01:00:40.000We saw it with Texas v. Pennsylvania in 2020, and the Supreme Court went, oh, but we're so scared we won't get involved, and they should have, because now it just gets worse.
01:00:49.000But we may end up seeing states, I don't know, Alabama, Arkansas, Texas, many of the southern states, just say, all right, We no longer communicate.
01:01:04.000Where we go from there, I think it'd be, I don't know.
01:01:06.000I think that could happen, but I think if it was something more litigious like them suing the state, I really wouldn't see that going anywhere because we can vote for Trump.
01:01:14.000I mean, we're not being prevented from being able to vote for Trump.
01:01:18.000So it's, I understand what you're saying.
01:01:20.000And of course we understand that's what the motivation is, but none of us are being deprived of our right to vote for him if we want to.
01:01:26.000We can't wait for them to put Trump in prison.
01:01:30.000And then when we in West Virginia vote for Trump, They're like, well, unfortunately, he's in jail in New York, so he's the president, but he can't pardon himself at the state level, so he can't leave, and now you've got a constitutional crisis.
01:01:44.000The Supreme Court, many legal scholars have been weighing in on this, saying the Supreme Court could intervene right now in this case and shut it down.
01:03:58.000Because, like, would Trump have run if we weren't headed here anyways, right?
01:04:01.000Like, all of this happened for a reason and it's hard to say, well, did Trump set it off or did Trump run because something was already in motion, he saw it and he took, you know, it led to these things.
01:04:13.000The federal government has too much dominance in this country.
01:04:17.000I don't think this is the way it was supposed to be.
01:04:19.000And so the idea that ultimately we are coming up against what feels like top-down abuse of states is not surprising.
01:04:28.000And I do think ultimately this is a moment for the states to decide that they are going to start rebuilding barriers to federal control.
01:04:35.000I mean, when you're talking about your idea, Tim, it made me think about when Abbott said basically, like, I will be now enforcing the border.
01:05:04.000I think that we have been on a track of misalignment and so I don't know if Trump accelerated, I think he because of his personality does heighten maybe some hysteria but generally I think we were on a bad path and there is a question of like can we steer the ship back towards more of the balance of powers that America was supposed to have originally.
01:05:23.000I mean it kind of at this point It's almost not even worth it to speculate for me, because I considered the last election, you know, this is between good and evil, make your choice, and we lost that one.
01:05:37.000I didn't think we could do four years of what we've had, and I definitely don't think we can do four more.
01:05:53.000And what happens when or if people stop Paying into the government, and the government is keeping alive all the people that are now here, that are living off the government, then what?
01:06:06.000Regardless of what the government's spending, if the way we get a right-wing style Antifa is actually just a no-confidence, like, If people just start feeling like the government doesn't matter, and this is already happening, right?
01:06:21.000I just absolutely love this, because we had someone on the show a little while ago and they were arguing with me, it can't happen, it'll never happen.
01:06:27.000And I'm like, what if the right starts acting like the left and decides there's no government anyway?
01:06:34.000Whatever they say on TV has no bearing on my life.
01:06:36.000And they kept saying, that'll never happen, that can't happen.
01:06:39.000I'm like, dude, You have roving bands of bandits raiding department stores all over the country.
01:06:46.000Numerous department stores have shut down.
01:06:48.000Westfield Mall, I think it is, and SF is mostly abandoned now.
01:06:52.000The owners have abandoned their debt to the bank, saying, you can keep the building, buh-bye.
01:06:58.000Two of the largest hotels have shut down.
01:07:31.000When the left is out protesting and a cop tries to arrest them, they will get into a fistfight with that cop and try to quote-unquote de-arrest.
01:07:37.000They do not care for the perceived authority of that cop.
01:07:40.000Then you've got the roving gangs that go and shoot up department stores and rob them blind.
01:07:45.000They literally don't care about the structure or order of anything.
01:08:33.000I'm telling you, it's because people are going to come out in November and they're going to be like, It's not going to be something where they protest.
01:08:39.000I am not saying that a guy stands up in a soapbox and says, I've decided I won't pay taxes anymore.
01:08:44.000It's going to be a dude waking up and being like, that has no relevance to me at all.
01:08:48.000I've got to go out and take care of my chickens.
01:08:51.000And then April's going to come by and he's going to be like, oh, I don't know.
01:08:53.000And they're going to be like, did you file your taxes?
01:08:55.000And they'll be like, to the federal government.
01:09:46.000You think that there's a national coordinated effort to set up gangs in each city to rob Kohl's and department stores?
01:09:53.000No, but I think independent cells organize together, and then I think the public watches on social media and sees them get away with it, and that they're not prosecuted, nothing happens, and they think, I want free sneakers, I'm gonna get a group of my friends, let's go.
01:10:06.000What actually happens is that one guy will show up on a street corner in Chicago and I'll be like, hey, let's go to Kohl's!
01:10:31.000Sometimes what they'll do is, they'll just post on social media, they'll make a burner account, and they'll post, be like, I'm gonna be here at 7pm, flash mob, flash mob, flash mob.
01:10:40.000And they don't tell anybody, they just show up, and then everyone just goes, oh boy!
01:11:22.000But what I'm saying is that January 6th never would have happened if people hadn't spent the entire year watching the left do exactly what happened for a very short period of time on January 6th.
01:11:34.000And we watched the left do it day after day after day after day and get away with it.
01:11:38.000Not only get away with it, but the media was saying, nothing to see here.
01:12:40.000Then they throw bricks, they accomplish nothing, the government doesn't care.
01:12:44.000The real breakdown in society and cities among the left is when roving bands flash mob and just raid stores.
01:12:51.000No organization, no plan, and no way to deal with it.
01:12:54.000When the right gets to the point where they no longer believe there's a functioning government, they're not going to go around smashing bricks and robbing people.
01:13:40.000With debanking, people are just going to be like, I'm going to find other means.
01:13:44.000With Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, they're going to be like, I don't want to get my bank account shut down, which has already happened tremendously.
01:13:50.000I mean, Mike Lindell was telling us about this.
01:13:52.000So what happens if we start seeing a mass movement where people are like, I'm just going to start using cryptocurrencies because I'm concerned they're going to shut my bank down?
01:13:58.000Then we're going to use APIs for our website so we can use crypto instead of Visa and MasterCard and banks.
01:14:07.000And then what happens when they stop filing their taxes?
01:14:09.000And they say, you have nothing to do with me.
01:14:12.000If enough people legitimately think Joe Biden did not win, or after convicting Trump and jailing him, there is no way for him to legitimately win, no matter what happens come November, they're going to say, you're not the president.
01:14:25.000I only listen to what Trump has to say.
01:15:19.000The IRS sent a bill and the person is going to be like, this is from the fake government.
01:15:23.000When we get to the point where no one can recognize which one is the actual government, that's when the breakdown happens.
01:15:29.000People are just going to be like, you're not the government, Joe Biden.
01:15:32.000And Matt Taibbi described this in an article he wrote a couple years ago, the point at which two vehicles go full speed to the police station, two guys jump out of the cars, run up to the chief of police and yell, arrest that man at each other.
01:15:46.000Then law enforcement ultimately decides who's the government.
01:15:50.000So people are going to disregard the government.
01:15:52.000The question then becomes how this country persists if you end up with a situation where there's not enough federal law enforcement officers, I think there's a hundred thousand for the whole country, unable to maintain enforcement at the federal level.
01:16:22.000I mean, you were making the point a second ago about the two guys going up to the police officer.
01:16:26.000I mean, we already know there's a double standard in the justice system, and we already know that they're going to prosecute conservatives.
01:16:32.000So that decision has already been made.
01:16:34.000Which side does the hammer of justice come down on?
01:16:37.000It's going to come after anybody on the right.
01:16:39.000But what I mean is, let's say November 6th, half the media says Biden won, half the media says Trump won.
01:17:37.000And then someone's going to go to a law enforcement officer, National Guard, and they're going to say, Donald Trump's going to say to a state National Guard somewhere, I'm the president and we're invoking you to help with law enforcement.
01:17:48.000And they're going to be like, okay, I guess.
01:18:30.000If alternative media is saying things like, look, according to this, it looks like Trump won, but the corporate press is saying the opposite, then no one knows.
01:18:41.000And if no one knows, the real question then becomes, who does law enforcement default to?
01:18:47.000And if they don't default to anybody, then it just breaks down in partisan lines.
01:18:53.000And you will end up with factions in the federal government saying Trump won and factions saying Biden won.
01:19:00.000And then what happens on January 20th?
01:19:06.000Or, hey, look, I'm crazy, and Trump will get convicted, go to jail, he'll come out and say, the judge has sentenced me to three years, and I'm sorry, I broke the law, shouldn't have done it, some say it was the worst, so I'm going to jail, I'm not running anymore, Nikki Haley, she's the candidate, and then Nikki Haley wins.
01:19:30.000I don't think Trump's likely to admit, you know, to suddenly take responsibility for this crime, which, you know, I don't really believe in New York's case against him anyways.
01:19:40.000I think really, to me, all of it comes down to, like, the will of the people and what the people feel like they have the ability to influence right now, right?
01:19:51.000Like, even if they were to say, I'm going to stop paying my taxes because this is all crazy or whatever else.
01:19:58.000Ultimately, they have to feel like there is no repercussion for that or that the risk is worth it.
01:20:03.000I think so much of American culture is deteriorated because we never tried to maintain it, because we allowed immigration to become rampant, because we didn't try to really stick to the values that were part of our founding.
01:20:20.000It's going to be interesting to try and see how both campaigns leverage the next couple months as they try to be, you know, the right one, right?
01:20:30.000This is the people you should trust going forward.
01:20:32.000These are the people who have your best interest at heart.
01:20:39.000I think that's why American political theater has become about urgency.
01:20:44.000In some ways, this case, the timing of it works out for both sides because you're able to say, this is happening right now and you have to make a choice.
01:20:54.000And I do feel that way to a certain extent.
01:20:56.000This election does have a lot riding on it in a way that maybe other years were less dramatic.
01:21:02.000On the other hand, I really feel for the average Americans who feel overwhelmed and hopeless right now.
01:21:09.000They feel like no matter what they do, the worst is coming.
01:21:13.000Do you feel like this, what we're experiencing right now, is the sabotage?
01:21:17.000Or do you feel like this is almost the precursor?
01:21:21.000Because in a way, you know, a lot of what they've done for all these years is basically, you know, they live in this fantasy like they're stopping Hitler.
01:21:27.000Like, if I could go back in time and stop Hitler, now we're living through it so anything goes.
01:22:30.000I'm telling you that while they're foaming at the mouth and blood is coming out of their mouth and they're screaming, you literally support Hitler.
01:22:37.000They seem pretty serious while they're screaming and shrieking.
01:22:41.000Can I ask, do you guys have your political conversions around the same time?
01:22:47.000I've never had a political conversion.
01:22:49.000Well, you stayed the same and the party moved away from you.
01:22:51.000But it seems like you guys had similar timelines of experiencing a change in how you were perceiving the Democrat versus Republican labels in America.
01:23:02.000I don't think you can compare Brandon and I's experiences.
01:23:07.000My experience was I knew a bunch of Trump supporters and went to a bunch of Trump rallies, never really cared that much for Republican or Democrat, and so when the culture war was inflaming and Donald Trump was running, In 2016?
01:23:43.000And then in 2020, I was like, well, he's the first president in my lifetime to not start new wars and try and end wars and pull our troops back.
01:23:50.000The only big conversion I had was probably on guns, where I went constitutionally absolutist on Second Amendment.
01:23:57.000Everything else has been relatively static, except for uh, me saying in 2020, okay, now we'll vote for Trump
01:24:05.000because the foreign policy thing that changed. But literally the whole time, I was at the
01:24:12.000Trump, what you call it, the deplorable, hanging out with a bunch of Trump supporters when he got
01:24:17.000elected while Antifa was throwing bricks at people. So I did not have anything close to what
01:24:47.000I just, you know, I think that, I just feel like you're, you're, my perception of you when I met you was that you were very sort of like libertarian, very centrist and it's still the case.
01:25:02.000Way, way in for Trump now, in a way that you weren't before.
01:25:05.000Joe Biden is burning the country to the ground intentionally.
01:25:08.000The Afghanistan withdrawal, it's not a question of, and I said this last week and I was saying it to Trump, it's not even a question of if Trump's policies are good anymore.
01:27:17.000In 2019, in the Democratic primaries, they all raised their hand saying it would no longer be a criminal offense to cross the border without permission.
01:28:07.000You know, literally everyone in this country, like the default liberals will tell you, you look at the Krasinskys, they play this game all day.
01:28:13.000They say, no, no, no, we agree on most things.
01:28:15.000Then stop calling me right wing when we agree on 90% of things.
01:28:19.000And the only difference is that I read the news and you don't.
01:28:36.000And the reason they do it is to isolate you from regular people who are uninitiated or independent voters.
01:28:42.000They want to poison the well and say right is bad, right is Trump, MAGA is evil.
01:28:47.000So then when I say, I'm actually a fan of progressive tax systems, I just think the government is corrupt, I actually am in favor of universal basic health care, I'm just not a fan of universal absolute health care because it's physically impossible, it's economically impossible, they say, that's right wing.
01:29:03.000And I'm like, no, like I supported Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang.
01:29:08.000And the only reason I'm supporting Trump right now is because of his foreign policy and his domestic immigration policy.
01:29:13.000Some of the most important issues pertain to Americans today.
01:29:16.000And Joe Biden's policy is take a crap in his pants, burn the country down and hide in a basement.
01:29:20.000And there's no other viable candidate.
01:29:22.000The Democrats' policy is, lock up your political opponents, burn the country to the ground, spend $100 billion overseas in each of these random different countries while Americans are suffering, import the third world into this country, displacing minorities.
01:29:35.000There is no legitimate left or right position supporting Joe Biden.
01:29:39.000There is only the, you are in a cult or you are not in a cult.
01:29:43.000Yeah, I kind of feel like the right and left and middle, none of that even matters anymore because it's semantically irrelevant at this point.
01:29:53.000Well, I think that at the time that I walked away from the Democratic Party, I would have agreed that my stance at the time was, you know, I didn't leave the party.
01:30:05.000I'm actually going to be putting out a sequel to my original walkway video where I talk about the things that have changed for the worse over the last just six years.
01:30:13.000And as they have become more extreme and all of the things that you just said, I have leaned Harder into being on the right, I think, as a reaction to how they are becoming more extreme on the left.
01:30:27.000So I don't know that I can honestly even say anymore just, oh, the party left me and I'm still just kind of like hanging out in the middle.
01:30:34.000I think that I have intentionally embraced being further on the right because I do.
01:31:08.000Even at times where I roll my eyes on certain issues and I'm just like, come on, you guys.
01:31:13.000But I'm like, I still feel like this is my team now.
01:31:17.000Because even though I don't agree with my team on every single issue or every single nuance of every single issue, This is my team against these people that are trying to destroy us completely.
01:31:28.000And otherwise, if that weren't the case, I probably would be hanging out more in the middle by myself, just being like, you know, you guys on the right are crazy sometimes, and you guys on the left are crazy sometimes, and I'm just doing my own thing in the middle.
01:31:40.000But I don't think we have the option to be that way right now.
01:31:42.000You've got Republicans that do nothing.
01:31:44.000You've got, you know, you've got a bunch of Republicans coming out, Asa Hutchinson saying, well, we got to respect the verdict and treat... No, shut up.
01:32:34.000In fact, a really good point was made some time ago, I can't remember who made this, they said, it's clear that culture war issues define the left and the right, not policy issues.
01:32:44.000If you are a leftist, and you say something like, I don't agree with universal healthcare, they'll go, but why?
01:32:51.000And you'll say, well, you know, the problem is this, and they'll argue.
01:32:53.000And then if you say, I don't agree that we should give trans medicine to children, you're right-wing, and they'll start attacking you and they'll call you a fascist.
01:33:12.000Well, I think the LGBT thing is a great example.
01:33:15.000I mean, I'm a gay man who used to be a liberal.
01:33:18.000I still am very much a gay rights advocate, but I recognize that the LGBTQIA2+, etc.
01:33:27.000community It is at the epicenter of the radicalization of the left wing.
01:33:35.000And so if I have to choose now between standing with other gay people on the LGBTQIA left or joining people on the right who at times I think are too extreme or rigid in their positions against LGBT, I'm still going to stand with the right right now.
01:33:51.000It's interesting because I think a lot of- because I've never considered myself Democrat.
01:33:57.000I don't- I'm happy to be called conservative.
01:34:01.000So it's interesting to hear if both of you have different perspectives on this because from my side, it seems like The Democrats really built a lot of their support in the modern era based on lumping people together based on these identities.
01:34:24.000And I felt like, you know, while Of course there are Republicans who are not great, and of course there's a lot of evangelical influence in right-wing communities.
01:34:33.000I did feel like a lot of the time you were having more conversations about policy or about how does this issue affect me as an individual as opposed to this collective lump I'm being forced into.
01:35:25.000I don't want to like belabor this point.
01:35:26.000I just want to try to understand it better.
01:35:28.000Like, are you saying that there's a scenario where Trump clearly wins, he clearly gets the most votes, he clearly has the most electoral votes, but what happens then?
01:35:38.000Is it like, But he's too dangerous, so we're not going to allow this to happen.
01:35:42.000No, I'm saying there's a scenario where the results come in in Texas, and they're contested, and Texas doesn't send their electoral vote count because there's a bunch of lawsuits happening in the state, and the state doesn't certify.
01:35:55.000And then they're in Congress going, we don't have Texas, Ohio, Minnesota.
01:36:01.000There's a bunch of lawsuits happening, so the state hasn't certified, and now they're trying to expedite it.
01:36:12.000Then it goes to a contingent election, and the Speaker of the House Johnson says, we have a contingent election on our hands, so delegations will decide who the president is going to be.
01:36:20.000Of course, there are more Republican delegations in the House than Democrats, so Donald Trump wins.
01:36:25.000The Senate then chooses the vice president, which would be Kamala Harris, so you get a Trump-Harris administration weird.
01:36:30.000But then, the Democrats start screaming, the Republicans rigged it!
01:36:34.000Red states, their legislatures are blocking the electoral vote count, which would make Biden the winner, so that they can have a contingent election and stop Biden from becoming president.
01:36:43.000So they filed laws at the Supreme Court.
01:36:45.000Supreme Court starts crying like little babies because they're all pathetic, except for Alito and Thomas, by the way.
01:36:50.000And then they say, well, we can't rule on this.
01:36:53.000Or they issue a quick ruling saying states must determine the outcomes of their own elections, and then we do not get to 270 or whatever happens.
01:37:00.000Both candidates are at like 250-something.
01:37:03.000The House then says Trump is president.
01:37:34.000And then Democrats whinge and complain.
01:37:37.000Republicans take the Senate, the House, and the Executive Branch.
01:37:42.000We get a good AG, a good Deputy Attorney General, we get a good head of the CIA and FBI, and then we start seeing some investigations and prosecutions of the corrupt individuals who have been scamming this country.
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01:38:46.000Now, actually, it looks like our Super Chats are frozen completely, so I'm gonna try it, because this is what happens when you have big shows, unfortunately, guys.
01:38:54.000Let me see if I can try and figure out how to, uh...
01:39:42.000I was like, I'm not going to skate today.
01:39:43.000I'm going to take a rest day, and I'm just going to zone out.
01:39:46.000And then I got on my bike, put on my fancy little aviator goggles, and rode my electric bike to go look at cows in the stream, and that's what I like to do.
01:39:59.000And then I rode around for about 20 minutes, stopped at a little hotspot they got near West Virginia, hung out for about 30 minutes, had a lemonade.
01:40:07.000Came back, opened my phone, Trump guilty.
01:41:27.000Whatever happens next, they will talk about this day forever.
01:41:33.000And I just want to stress how strange it is to realize that in a hundred years, they will probably pull up this podcast, all of your comments on the podcast, everything we've said, and there will be kids watching to learn about the history of this time, whatever it may be.
01:41:49.000World War III, Civil War, or just a tumultuous period in U.S.
01:43:54.000It was something like less than 500 votes or something, right?
01:43:58.000Yeah, it was 400 and something votes he could have won by.
01:44:00.000And you win the primary, and then you're a shoo-in in a Republican district to win in November.
01:44:05.000I think this is a really good example of when people are like, well, my vote doesn't matter.
01:44:08.000Like, maybe you're not going to change the presidential election in your state if it always leans one way, but you can have a really serious impact on your local and state elections.
01:44:43.000You guys also could, if you can't, you know, if it's not in your budget to donate to Trump, you could volunteer or you could go register voters.
01:44:50.000Like it doesn't have to be a financial contribution.
01:44:52.000I think for a lot of campaigns, having the feet on the ground is a bigger issue.
01:45:20.000They're going to, I don't know, 18 months minimum security.
01:45:23.000They're going to say you're going to go to a minimum security facility and this prevents, and they're going to say that way, Secret Service, you got no issue there.
01:46:14.000I'm just saying, like, they're going to try and block him from going to the convention, and he's going to be in prison, so he won't have access to Zoom or anything.
01:46:21.000Well, I mean, if he does, like, if he's able to Zoom into whatever's going on.
01:46:30.000Yeah, I was gonna say, if he is able to, like, virtually conference in, Democrats are gonna be like, well, you guys can't be mad that Biden did it virtually then, because Trump had to do it because he's in jail.
01:46:38.000It could all be a ruse to let Biden do it.
01:46:42.000As a former leftist who voted for Obama twice, Brandon's 2018 video opened my eyes to leftist indoctrination.
01:46:50.000What is WalkAway doing this year for the coming election and the growing movement with minority communities rejecting the Democratic Party?
01:48:48.000Well, my brother was in the Marine Corps and he was an intelligence officer and he did have to give up all his citizenship so he could only have security clearance if he was an American.
01:48:56.000And I would definitely be willing to do it under those circumstances.
01:49:00.000But these guys, you know, they want to have two.
01:49:06.000The question is always, and I'm not going to indulge it, but with some family stuff, is there a reason that I may have to leave America and be somewhere else?
01:49:39.000Chris Benoit says, I'm probably pronouncing your name wrong, I read that Biden admin just gave Ukraine the green light to use US weapons inside Russia.
01:49:46.000Kind of convenient that they did this today when all eyes are on Trump New York.
01:53:06.000Because his daughter is fundraising off the case, basically.
01:53:11.000Laura Loomer reported that clients of the judge's daughter were given seats in the courtroom.
01:53:18.000It's just like, yeah, we know what's going on.
01:53:22.000And if Trump gets a real AG in there, these people are going to go to prison for a very, very, very long time.
01:53:28.000Well, and if I'm right, and the gag order is still in effect until he gets sentenced, you know, he's not allowed to talk about this in the lead-up to the RNC, that he's not allowed to go to because of sentencing.
01:53:37.000Hypothetically, we'll see what happens.
01:53:38.000And then during this whole time, he can't file an appeal, so he's not able to immediately start formally offering a counter-argument.
01:53:47.000He's not allowed to do anything until they decide the next big headline, a.k.a.
01:53:53.000That way, he pays it, and now he's a convicted felon.
01:53:57.000But I have a feeling they may try to delay sentencing in some way, because the longer Trump can't appeal, the better for them to be able to say in the campaign he's a convicted felon.
01:54:07.000And if I'm not wrong, his legal team asked for it to be like mid to late July, I assume after the RNC, for a reason, which also I assume they calculated we may not be able to appeal early, but at least he'll be, you know, at the RNC for the nomination or whatever they're weighing in their minds and their conversations.
01:54:27.000Andrew Ho says, Remember Trump on Oprah in 1988?
01:55:53.000Cowboy Rob says, what if it came out that Trump actually won in 2020 so he can't become president again because he's already had two terms?
01:56:01.000You can't have two terms, but Trump was never sworn in to serve a second term, so if they claim he won in 2020, he would just, I don't know, be able to go after him criminally or something?
01:56:14.000Justin Bess says, Don't say too much, but Army Reserve employees that work at DOD are taking leave from work in November due to being deployed to Washington, D.C.
01:58:49.000The Arctic Operator says, Tim, do you think Trump will actually go to jail?
01:58:54.000Well, we talked about this during the show.
01:58:56.000I don't know, but I would not be surprised.
01:58:57.000I think Brandon made a really good point that The worst may come.
01:59:02.000You know, I was thinking house arrest probably makes a lot of sense, but considering they have no choice but to go 100%, I mean, when they were planning this, they probably sat down and said, look, if you do this, you can't stop halfway.
01:59:16.000And then, you know, and then Hillary Clinton is sitting there talking with Bragg and them, and she's like, a rocket ship on the way to the moon doesn't stop halfway.
02:00:14.000The cops that protected the Black Lives Matter mural that was illegally painted in front of Trump's building when de Blasio stole taxpayer money to do it, those cops are evil.
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02:01:54.000Brandon, do you want to shout anything out?
02:01:55.000Yeah, I just want to say it was an honor to spend this really crazy, tragic day with you guys and be able to have this conversation and of course with your audience.
02:02:04.000Yeah, I would just say if anybody's watching right now on YouTube, just give WalkAway YouTube channel a follow.
02:02:10.000And I'm on YouTube as well, Brandon Strock.
02:02:12.000And give me a follow on X, at Brandon Strock.
02:02:25.000I got two in mind that are very at the top right now that we're working on, but find something you're really good at and do that to influence other people.