Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump Kills 11 Narco Terrorists, Democrats Warn War With Venezuela Coming | Timcast IRL

00:02:21.000 Trump administration has released a video of what they say is narco-terrorists on about delivering drugs being blown up.

00:02:29.000 Eleven people were killed.

00:02:30.000 There are now concerns that the US may get involved in a war with Venezuela.

00:02:35.000 Maduro says that they're gonna respond to the US taking military action in the Caribbean.

00:02:40.000 And Democrats are epiptic. 0.90

00:02:42.000 How dare Donald Trump kill narco-terrorists? 1.00

00:02:46.000 I'm not joking. 0.99

00:02:47.000 Now to be fair, okay, fine.

00:02:48.000 I mean when the government blows somebody up and then just says, trust me, you know, we don't necessarily have to trust them.

00:02:53.000 However, in this regard, when the US government releases the video themselves, it's probably not something they're gonna get caught doing wrong.

00:03:00.000 Usually that's a whistleblower or whatever.

00:03:02.000 So it is funny to see that Trump has now gotten the Democrats to get behind Trende Aragua and drug cartels.

00:03:08.000 Oh boy.

00:03:10.000 We got a lot uh a lot of other news.

00:03:12.000 The Epstein stuff, of course.

00:03:13.000 Victims have the press conference saying they were gonna be releasing their own their own uh a client list, which will be uh interesting.

00:03:21.000 And then a couple stories that I think are particularly interesting, even though they're across the pond in the UK, Graham Linehan, a comedian gets off a plane and gets arrested in the UK.

00:03:30.000 He's British, but for tweets he sent jokes while in the United States.

00:03:35.000 So this is very interesting.

00:03:37.000 And then, probably the most interesting, Germany's AFD party, this is their populist right-wing party, seven of their politicians have died within days of their upcoming election, and no one believes it's a coincidence.

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00:06:10.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more.

00:06:12.000 We have Gavin McGinnis.

00:06:15.000 Yay! 0.99

00:06:15.000 I'm number one. 0.99

00:06:18.000 You are?

00:06:19.000 You want to grab your microphone and talk to I'm number one.

00:06:24.000 I'm happy to be here.

00:06:25.000 I am number one.

00:06:28.000 And uh yeah, let's well, who are you?

00:06:30.000 What do you do?

00:06:31.000 Uh I have been so canceled that I'm the only person in the world not on Twitter.

00:06:36.000 I started the Proud Boys, Vice Media, invented hipsters, gentrified Williamsburg, and uh made three Native Americans from scratch. 0.99

00:06:46.000 And uh I uh I'm I'm left with censored.tv, which is the only place I'm allowed to exist.

00:06:53.000 I have to say, you know, you are responsible for creating one of the most nefarious and notorious groups that we have known in the modern era.

00:07:00.000 Good hipsters.

00:07:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:07:02.000 And I'm I'm sure you feel deeply correct your joke, by the way.

00:07:07.000 I stepped on it.

00:07:08.000 It is true though. 0.98

00:07:09.000 People don't know that you made hipsters.

00:07:11.000 You went out well to Brooklyn and you put a flag in the ground.

00:07:14.000 Well Jamesburg.

00:07:15.000 New York has these decade-long scenes, like there was Jack Kerrick with the beatniks, and there was the sort of raver scene in the 90s, there was the CBGB scene in the 80s.

00:07:26.000 For some reason, they choosed round numbers, and it's like 80 to 90.

00:07:30.000 That was the club kids.

00:07:32.000 70 to 80.

00:07:33.000 That was the CBGB like art school kids that became punk.

00:07:37.000 And we owned 2000 and 2010, and that was like army jackets and track bikes and MP3s.

00:07:44.000 Um I liked it.

00:07:46.000 It got sort of putrefied by metrosexuals. 0.97

00:07:49.000 It branched out into sort of like fake bikers and metrosexuals.

00:07:53.000 But um, yeah, it was a great little scene, and I I'm happy that it it existed, like the beatniks and then the raver kids and all that other early vice as well.

00:08:04.000 Early vice.

00:08:05.000 Early vice.

00:08:06.000 Early.

00:08:06.000 Early vice, dude, is 1994.

00:08:09.000 Voice of Montreal is early vice.

00:08:11.000 Yes.

00:08:12.000 I think for the millennials and for my generation, it was like 2010 was when everybody left.

00:08:18.000 I was had a salt and pepper beard.

00:08:21.000 At that point.

00:08:22.000 This is a long time ago.

00:08:23.000 And I think you were were you still there in 2010?

00:08:25.000 No.

00:08:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:26.000 You know, I was 94 to 2008.

00:08:29.000 Ah.

00:08:30.000 Interesting.

00:08:30.000 Yeah.

00:08:31.000 Right on.

00:08:31.000 Well, I definitely want to talk to you about it.

00:08:33.000 It should be fun.

00:08:34.000 We got a lot hanging out.

00:08:34.000 Well, we'll get into the news.

00:08:36.000 I am Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.

00:08:36.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:08:40.000 I was gonna say, Gavin, it's befitting that you started the hipster trend because you still do look like a fruity hipster a bit.

00:08:46.000 Why fruit?

00:08:47.000 Why'd you add fruity? 1.00

00:08:48.000 Because the tattoos, the tattoos are gay. 0.99

00:08:52.000 Those types of tattoos. 0.97

00:08:53.000 Yeah, not cool, Ilad.

00:08:54.000 I think it's like counterculture to not have tattoos.

00:08:56.000 Hold on. 0.92

00:08:57.000 It's gay to have Fidel Castro and Chunkai Sheik. 1.00

00:09:00.000 We can't we can't hear you. 0.99

00:09:02.000 By a underwater jellyfish.

00:09:05.000 Is it jellyfish?

00:09:05.000 As an octopus?

00:09:06.000 Robotic jellyfish. 1.00

00:09:08.000 That's gay. 1.00

00:09:08.000 Why don't you grow enough walls to get at least one tattoo? 1.00

00:09:11.000 Yeah, and the.

00:09:12.000 Why don't you get a tiny glass?

00:09:14.000 Two cliche.

00:09:15.000 That's that's that's that's all we asked.

00:09:18.000 I feel like I ooze Judaism. 0.84

00:09:20.000 I don't need like a star-to-back.

00:09:21.000 Why don't you just get a mole?

00:09:23.000 Just get a get excited behind the A now.

00:09:26.000 Hello, everybody.

00:09:27.000 My name's Philibonti.

00:09:28.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal and all that remains.

00:09:30.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter. 0.96

00:09:31.000 That's probably gay too. 0.92

00:09:32.000 I don't know. 0.97

00:09:34.000 Probably. 0.88

00:09:34.000 Gay metal. 0.88

00:09:36.000 Yes. 0.98

00:09:36.000 Definitely. 0.98

00:09:37.000 All right.

00:09:37.000 Let's uh let's start with the first story.

00:09:40.000 So y'all may have seen this video.

00:09:42.000 The independent reports.

00:09:43.000 Beware how and why Trump attacked a Venezuelan drug cartel boat.

00:09:49.000 The attack comes a day after the Venezuelan president accused the Trump admin of plotting a military invasion of his country.

00:09:56.000 And uh the Trump admin published this video of indeed a boat exploding.

00:10:00.000 So uh Trump claimed eleven drug traffickers were killed in the strike.

00:10:05.000 Look, I see a lot of liberals and they're angry saying Trump murdered people.

00:10:09.000 They're saying he he murdered civilians.

00:10:11.000 And I'm like, wait, wait, oh what?

00:10:13.000 Okay, listen.

00:10:14.000 Um I've been I've been critical of the Middle East Middle East intervention, the war in Ukraine, U.S. support for Israel, all of this funding we're spending overseas.

00:10:24.000 The one time you can probably expect the government not to be lying about the strike is when they publish the video and tell you we did it.

00:10:33.000 Typically, when we see like um we've got uh the famous collateral murder video that was leaked where uh U.S. blew up a bunch of journal, a couple journalists or Reuters reporter in uh I think it was in Iraq or Afghanistan.

00:10:44.000 This is 10, 15 years ago.

00:10:46.000 That was leaked.

00:10:47.000 And that made the U.S. look bad and they were upset about it.

00:10:49.000 This is Trump saying, here's what we've confirmed, and we did.

00:10:53.000 So certainly don't take their word for it.

00:10:56.000 I'm not gonna sit here and be like the US government blowing people up, fine, it must be trustworthy.

00:11:00.000 But I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt in this regard that they're striking narco-terrorists and traffickers and cartel members who rape, murder, and steal. 0.55

00:11:09.000 And I'm not going to sit here and cry and call Trump a murderer on this one. 0.67

00:11:12.000 This is what this is what I can't stand.

00:11:14.000 You get these military actions in Eastern Europe or the Middle East, and then these these pro-military industrial complex neolibs are just like, no, that's fine.

00:11:22.000 No, we are it.

00:11:23.000 They don't go after Biden for what happened in Afghanistan.

00:11:25.000 If he was getting guys that were bringing fentanyl to the West, I don't even care where in the West, anywhere in North America, then thank God he did that.

00:11:34.000 But I think we have to differentiate exactly what was on this boat.

00:11:38.000 Because if it was Coke with no fentanyl.

00:11:43.000 Well, yeah, I'm glad you I'm glad you got those guys.

00:11:48.000 We totally don't want cocaine in America. 0.54

00:11:51.000 No way, Jose.

00:11:53.000 Uh glad you got them.

00:11:54.000 Anyway.

00:11:58.000 It is gonna go though.

00:11:59.000 Cocaine as well.

00:12:01.000 Like all of that stuff that's trafficking.

00:12:03.000 He's like, I regret my switch.

00:12:04.000 Great. 0.99

00:12:05.000 I love that cocaine is going down with the fentanyl shit because it's all bad. 1.00

00:12:10.000 All drugs are bad. 0.99

00:12:11.000 And even pure cocaine, where you can do a line and like have a meal and do a line and go to bed.

00:12:19.000 That stuff's just as bad as fentanyl.

00:12:21.000 So get it out of here.

00:12:22.000 No way, Jose.

00:12:24.000 You could give me a bump right now, and I'd be like, no, thanks.

00:12:24.000 He will, though.

00:12:27.000 I'd probably grab it and run to the bathroom to throw it in the toilet. 0.95

00:12:31.000 As you should.

00:12:32.000 Yeah.

00:12:33.000 Drugs are bad.

00:12:33.000 You obviously don't have, you know.

00:12:35.000 Have a toilet?

00:12:36.000 You do have a toilet.

00:12:38.000 Yeah.

00:12:38.000 Okay, so.

00:12:39.000 Yeah.

00:12:40.000 Sam Cedar broke it, though.

00:12:42.000 Yeah, he literally did.

00:12:43.000 No, but let's do it.

00:12:43.000 He did.

00:12:44.000 I don't know why he told us that, but he did. 0.95

00:12:46.000 The warrant cocaine is retarded. 0.99

00:12:47.000 It's a great drug. 0.96

00:12:48.000 It's like weed.

00:12:49.000 It's a hundred coffees without the diarrhea.

00:12:52.000 Oh, I disagree.

00:12:52.000 I think it's all good.

00:12:54.000 I think cocaine and fentanyl are just as bad.

00:12:54.000 Yeah.

00:12:57.000 Oh, I'm not going to sit here and say all drugs are the exact same thing, but drugs in general are not good for caffeine in the United States.

00:13:03.000 Absolutely, yeah.

00:13:04.000 But it's a scale.

00:13:04.000 Yeah.

00:13:06.000 Didn't we just sell caffeine like we did two minutes ago?

00:13:08.000 Coffee.

00:13:09.000 But it's a scale, right?

00:13:10.000 I'm not going to sit here and tell people to buy pure caffeine and go do a bump.

00:13:14.000 Okay.

00:13:14.000 Weed, cocaine, caffeine, fentanyl.

00:13:17.000 Agree.

00:13:18.000 That's why we have the schedule.

00:13:18.000 Agree.

00:13:19.000 Heroin, opioids.

00:13:21.000 Like they're they are Russian roulette.

00:13:23.000 They're way up here.

00:13:24.000 Cocaine is you get a little chatty.

00:13:27.000 I think a big part of the issue is cocaine too is Uh that it's usually cut with stuff and could kill you nowadays.

00:13:33.000 But not just that.

00:13:34.000 I could tell you stories of people whose lives have been completely destroyed by cocaine.

00:13:37.000 But what if coffee was cut with fentanyl?

00:13:40.000 Do we blow up coffee trucks?

00:13:41.000 But we're not talking, we're not telling people to isolate caffeine and snort it.

00:13:47.000 Okay, that doesn't matter how you in how you ingest the drug.

00:13:51.000 90 milligrams and a cup of coffee.

00:13:53.000 I yes, the caffeine addiction this country and the West has is really bad.

00:13:53.000 And and you know what?

00:13:57.000 You know what?

00:13:58.000 This is kind of like Epstein. 0.99

00:13:59.000 I don't give a crap if if guys are effing post-pubescent girls. 1.00

00:14:05.000 Uh Jimmy Page was with the 14-year-old. 0.98

00:14:09.000 It's it's not my cup of tea, but uh sexy and 17, straight cats, she was just 17, if you know what I mean. 1.00

00:14:16.000 Like if Epsy Nylon is pubescent and post-pubescent, same with P. Diddy, I don't care.

00:14:22.000 I want to focus on actual molestation of pre-pubescent children. 0.92

00:14:27.000 That's where I want to like start lynching people.

00:14:30.000 But but but is it similarly with drugs, cocaine, weed?

00:14:34.000 No.

00:14:35.000 I want to focus on fentanyl and opioids.

00:14:37.000 But is it split?

00:14:38.000 Isn't it a scale? 0.95

00:14:39.000 It's like triage, like it's all bad, but CMR is Moses splitting the C. Like 17-year-olds having sex with rock stars, I'm falling asleep right now. 0.97

00:14:50.000 12-year-olds having sex with rock stars, I'm wide awake. 0.97

00:14:54.000 But grabbing my guns. 0.99

00:14:56.000 I think I think pot is bad.

00:14:58.000 Yeah.

00:14:59.000 I think alcohol is fine.

00:15:00.000 Starting in a movie theater.

00:15:01.000 But it's a scale.

00:15:02.000 It's a scale.

00:15:03.000 Correct.

00:15:04.000 Like, I don't think alcohol and and and and marijuana should be completely banned and shut down and isolated or whatever.

00:15:10.000 Total prohibition.

00:15:11.000 I think it's bad.

00:15:11.000 Yeah.

00:15:12.000 But there's a scale, like obviously fentanyl, yes.

00:15:14.000 Cocaine should be legal.

00:15:15.000 It's a perfectly good, it's really just coffee and booze combined.

00:15:20.000 Fentanyl is a death sentence that's murdering our children.

00:15:24.000 So if there was fentanyl in that boat, you get a thumbs up.

00:15:27.000 No, I'm gonna draw a line in the sand on that boat.

00:15:28.000 I don't think cocaine's kosher.

00:15:30.000 Yeah, I think cocaine's bad.

00:15:30.000 F yeah.

00:15:31.000 Cocaine, cocaine goes past the line. 0.58

00:15:33.000 And I'm also ambivalent about the pot stuff.

00:15:35.000 Where do you draw the line?

00:15:36.000 What do you mean?

00:15:38.000 I would never do cocaine.

00:15:40.000 Okay. 1.00

00:15:40.000 So you're you're talking about like gay porn. 1.00

00:15:42.000 But do I need to do fentanyl to know that I'm against it? 1.00

00:15:44.000 Like, do I need to have gay sex to know that I don't want to have gay sex? 1.00

00:15:47.000 Well, what's your argument here? 1.00

00:15:49.000 My argument is you're talking about something you're not even remotely remotely familiar with.

00:15:53.000 I think I understand the effects enough to.

00:15:55.000 Okay, what are the effects of cocaine?

00:15:57.000 What if you did a line right now?

00:15:58.000 What would happen?

00:15:59.000 It's a stimulant.

00:16:00.000 Yeah.

00:16:00.000 You just probably gonna make you need to go to the bathroom.

00:16:03.000 You just did a red bulling too.

00:16:04.000 You just did a line.

00:16:05.000 You just did a Red Bull.

00:16:06.000 You just did a Red Bull line.

00:16:08.000 It's gonna suppress my appetite.

00:16:09.000 Yes, correct.

00:16:11.000 All the same symptoms.

00:16:12.000 It might harm my own.

00:16:13.000 I don't know.

00:16:15.000 Cocaine, defending cocaine.

00:16:16.000 I'm just saying. 0.95

00:16:17.000 It should be blown up real good on a boat.

00:16:20.000 But what are the effects of legalizing cocaine for people who are 18 and older or 21 and older?

00:16:26.000 That's an interesting point because legalization, you know, on the book is as a sort of uh semi-libertarian.

00:16:34.000 I'm like, yes, that looks great on paper.

00:16:36.000 I love it.

00:16:36.000 And then I saw like Colorado with legalization of pot.

00:16:40.000 I'm driving down the 95 in New York and I smell it coming into my car.

00:16:44.000 So I'm you you got me if you're talking about legalization.

00:16:49.000 Yes.

00:16:49.000 But as far as like a nebulous discussion of what's really bad for you, cocaine is like uh it's bad for society.

00:16:59.000 It's it's it's a I'll put it like this.

00:17:03.000 There is a weight placed on you depending on the scale of the drug you're taking.

00:17:07.000 Fentanyl is a weight that puts you six feet under.

00:17:09.000 Cocaine is a weight that drags you down 20% or something.

00:17:12.000 Okay, here's some bad news.

00:17:14.000 If there was no cocaine, you would have no tower records, you'd have no Playboy magazine, you'd have no National Lampoon, you'd have no Vice magazine, you would have no Studio 54, you'd have no disco, you'd have no Def Leopard, you'd have no hair metal.

00:17:32.000 Let me tell you right now, there's a bunch of disaffected Gen Z men who have found like religion and tradition. 1.00

00:17:38.000 That's great.

00:17:39.000 Who are saying, wow, we never should have allowed those things in the first place.

00:17:43.000 Yeah, okay.

00:17:44.000 And then you and you know what they're saying.

00:17:46.000 I drive down the street and I smell it coming through my window.

00:17:49.000 I see the dude strung out and pawing their goods to get more, and thinking, why did we ever allow any of it?

00:17:55.000 But my point is with this Moses splitting the sea thing.

00:17:58.000 I want to isolate the real villains, because when we isolate real villains like fentanyl and prepubescent sexual molestation.

00:18:07.000 We're talking a language everyone can understand.

00:18:09.000 When we're like, oh my God, there was cocaine at that party, you guys.

00:18:13.000 We we lose the youth with the the right wing movement.

00:18:17.000 So let's not become school marms and start like celebrating the death of a cocaine boat that could have been rotting.

00:18:23.000 Gen Z is going conservative. 0.87

00:18:25.000 Yeah, okay.

00:18:26.000 Because they're sick of what the right thing is.

00:18:27.000 The reason they're going conservative is because we were being pretty liberal minded.

00:18:32.000 The reason that we got the youth is because we weren't being little nitpickers about all the rules and not bitching about irrelevant stuff.

00:18:42.000 We're not being Ben Shapiro's.

00:18:44.000 The reason it's cool to be conservative is not because of Ben Shapiro, it's because of Tim and Gav.

00:18:51.000 I maybe half disagree.

00:18:53.000 Well, you're in it.

00:18:55.000 I don't think that I think Ben Shapiro is a huge so when we meet young people, Gen Z people in their mid-20s or whatever, they say, Oh, in the late like 2010s, I was getting all the Ben Shapiro debate videos.

00:19:06.000 And they were watching Ben Shapiro. 0.93

00:19:08.000 Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk are gateway drugs, but they they come to us because we go, yeah, I've fucked sorry, I've effed a ton of rods. 0.99

00:19:19.000 I've done mountains of blow. 1.00

00:19:22.000 Um, and uh I don't like liberals.

00:19:26.000 And I think I think the problem with like the Pap Buchanan generation of of paleoconservative nerds is they ostracize the youth by you know being these tie-wearing uh uptight guys who don't know the difference between fentanyl and cocaine and and weed and and opioids.

00:19:46.000 I think you know there's a really interesting conversation in like pot being schedule one.

00:19:51.000 Trump says he wants to remove that.

00:19:53.000 Uh I think a lot of people don't realize this that caffeine and cocaine have near the exact same physiological response.

00:19:59.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:20:00.000 Dude, methane adderall.

00:20:01.000 Look at the the chemical composition.

00:20:03.000 Adderall is metal.

00:20:04.000 It's one little satellite little octagon.

00:20:07.000 Isn't it just about the how fast it metabolizes in the body?

00:20:10.000 Adderall is slower than me.

00:20:11.000 We have we have an entire generation on Adderall.

00:20:14.000 Yeah.

00:20:14.000 And I don't I don't like that.

00:20:15.000 I I'll do speed once a year if I got if I gotta do a marathon.

00:20:21.000 I uh that's a very intense drug.

00:20:24.000 That's like renting an RV.

00:20:24.000 You know what I see?

00:20:26.000 I see when I was younger, I was a I was a I was much more liberal.

00:20:29.000 Now I'm fairly moderate on the Yeah, I'm a little libertarian.

00:20:33.000 I don't know that prohibition, the way we tried it with pot with with beer works, but I think we sighting need to culturally shun and say no to all these drugs.

00:20:42.000 Kevin, is it worth we need to recognize the the dangers of them?

00:20:47.000 Like I I'm for the legalization of weed, of course, but I want young people to know it kills your economic libido, it makes you sneak uh sleep in till noon.

00:20:57.000 You will not choose your career.

00:20:59.000 Like Tim Poole never would have been Tim Poole if he was smoking weed all day.

00:21:03.000 He'd think about what this place would look like in his head, but you never would have actualized it if you were high on weed.

00:21:10.000 So recognize it's it's the dangers of it, but I don't want the government telling you not to.

00:21:16.000 Right, no, no, exactly.

00:21:17.000 It's it's got to be a cultural phenomenon.

00:21:19.000 And I think we're seeing a lot of young people that are leaning towards the a similar position, but there's kind of a youth zeitgeist, I guess, which is drugs are bad, we don't want to go near them.

00:21:19.000 Right.

00:21:29.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:21:30.000 That's gay. 1.00

00:21:32.000 But you agree with it. 1.00

00:21:33.000 Do cocaine.

00:21:34.000 Do you not marijuana?

00:21:37.000 Uh not do illegal.

00:21:39.000 You heroin once.

00:21:40.000 No, you can't.

00:21:42.000 What's advice you give to your children?

00:21:43.000 Yeah, Kevin.

00:21:43.000 I my kids aren't heroin right now.

00:21:45.000 There's watching, slapping their own.

00:21:48.000 There was a viral uh thread on Reddit where a guy was saying what you were saying, and he was like trying it one time wouldn't be bad.

00:21:55.000 And then it's this big long thread where he he dies.

00:21:58.000 Well, yes, fentanyl is ruined heroin.

00:22:01.000 Not that Harren was good before, but it's sort of like a threesome.

00:22:04.000 Like again, let me make something very clear here.

00:22:07.000 Fentanyl is ruined all drugs.

00:22:09.000 So everything I say about cocaine and heroin is pre-fentanyl.

00:22:14.000 But post-fentanyl, yes, blow up the boats.

00:22:17.000 Um, but as far as like pie in the sky hypotheticals go, yeah, I I think that uh, you know, you should try a threesome. 0.99

00:22:26.000 You're not gonna enjoy it, by the way. 0.93

00:22:28.000 Conservatives are just like this guy's terrible. 0.98

00:22:30.000 These dudes can't get laid anymore, and you want them to try threesome. 1.00

00:22:33.000 Guys can't get it.

00:22:37.000 like, how are you guys doing over here?

00:22:38.000 Do you have grapes?

00:22:39.000 What formation type threesome are you talking?

00:22:42.000 A guy and two chicks.

00:22:43.000 But I've done a two guys and a girl. 0.79

00:22:46.000 People go, is that gay?

00:22:47.000 And I'm like, no, it's like digging a body, digging a hole for a body, and your shovels clink. 0.99

00:22:52.000 You're just like, you've got bigger fish to fry.

00:22:55.000 You're taking care of Drea de Mateo because she snitched. 0.87

00:23:00.000 So because I'm I think that you are you may have already answered my question.

00:23:04.000 If your if that boat had, say there was some fentanyl, some cocaine, some marijuana, right?

00:23:11.000 You would you think that the boat should be blown up because it was bringing in fentanyl and oh well we lost some cocaine in marijuana?

00:23:17.000 Okay.

00:23:18.000 I'm because I just want to be clear on how bad you know I have a zero tolerance policy as the king of the world for zero fentanyl.

00:23:25.000 Where did you grow up?

00:23:27.000 I was born in England.

00:23:28.000 I came to uh Ottawa, Canada when I was around five, and then I grew up in uh Ontario outside of Ottawa.

00:23:36.000 Uh I moved to Montreal when I was 18, which I consider a different country.

00:23:40.000 Quebec is a different country.

00:23:42.000 It's French speaking.

00:23:43.000 You guys have deponaires.

00:23:44.000 We have deponaires.

00:23:45.000 They don't like the English there. 0.94

00:23:47.000 You're a second-class citizen for sure.

00:23:49.000 And then I moved to New York in the late 90s and I've been here ever since.

00:23:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:53.000 Ah.

00:23:54.000 I was curious.

00:23:55.000 Uh I do think that the view you have, obviously, this is just a generalism, but it's based on where you grew up and how you grew up.

00:24:03.000 And sure, yeah.

00:24:05.000 Well, canada. 0.99

00:24:06.000 Just the the reason I ask is when I think about where I grew up, my reaction is holy crap, cocaine's bad.

00:24:13.000 The things, the things that I saw done for cocaine and to sell cocaine in Chicago, it's like, why would we tolerate that ever?

00:24:20.000 And why would we encourage in any way?

00:24:22.000 Tim, have you ever done this much?

00:24:24.000 Like a phone's worth?

00:24:26.000 Yeah.

00:24:26.000 I've seen people kill each other or no figuratively.

00:24:29.000 I've not seen anyone like that.

00:24:30.000 Go do a phone's worth of cocaine and call me back on the third phones. 0.80

00:24:35.000 Dude, I'm sick of crackheads already.

00:24:36.000 And I feel like this is conducive to could producing more crackheads.

00:24:40.000 Yeah.

00:24:41.000 Am I tripping?

00:24:41.000 Yeah.

00:24:41.000 Like there's too many crackheads in the country.

00:24:43.000 Like there's people, and there's what we want for society.

00:24:46.000 And then there's just like dudes talking.

00:24:48.000 Do you think cocaine's addictive?

00:24:51.000 Yeah, but like people don't really die from it.

00:24:54.000 You chat yourself together.

00:24:55.000 So what I what I what I see where I grew up is people going to prison and their lives destroyed, and whatever what whatever potential they had as American citizens to build a business was wiped out by cocaine.

00:25:04.000 Well, they went to prison because cocaine's illegal.

00:25:07.000 I can't believe I'm Mr. Cocaine defendant here, but yeah, I think it's bad.

00:25:10.000 I like Hollywood.

00:25:12.000 I'm not talking about I'm not talking about a guy.

00:25:14.000 I'm not talking about a guy with a little baggy.

00:25:16.000 I'm talking about.

00:25:18.000 I'm talking about people who are like, I'm gonna go get it.

00:25:20.000 They grab a gun and then they go and there's gang slinging.

00:25:22.000 Yeah, and they did that because it's illegal.

00:25:24.000 So you're so you're saying like Portugal method.

00:25:27.000 Like dispensaries and in Colombia, you'll bump into your mom and you'll be like, Mom, I'm so tired.

00:25:32.000 Have you got a bump? 0.99

00:25:33.000 And your mom's Columbia sucks. 1.00

00:25:35.000 A second. 0.99

00:25:37.000 Like, well, I don't I don't want to be in Colombia. 0.99

00:25:39.000 It sucks. 1.00

00:25:39.000 Like they have a bunch of narco gangs. 1.00

00:25:42.000 It's genetically bombed.

00:25:43.000 Don't they rob Americans who go there as tourists? 0.98

00:25:45.000 Yes.

00:25:46.000 Okay.

00:25:46.000 That happens all over the place.

00:25:47.000 Let's let's let's let's let's keep talking about central.

00:25:49.000 Let's jump to this next story.

00:25:50.000 We've got this from the AP.

00:25:51.000 Maduro says Venezuela is ready to respond to U.S. military presence in the Caribbean.

00:25:56.000 And a top Biden era official is warning the U.S. could stumble into disastrous intervention in Venezuela.

00:26:03.000 The argument being that Maduro is not going to tolerate the U.S. military operations in the Caribbean, and then the U.S. is going to stumble.

00:26:10.000 I don't think it's a stumbling.

00:26:11.000 I think the US intentionally will be like, time to go in, boys.

00:26:15.000 But the concern now is as Donald Trump keeps saying, you know, we don't want to be involved in these wars far away in the Middle East.

00:26:22.000 He does keep talking about the cartels in Mexico as well as Trendaraguas.

00:26:27.000 So if there is the potential for escalation, it's closer at home.

00:26:30.000 It's Venezuela.

00:26:31.000 You guys think that Trump is going to get us in is going to intervene and get us involved in Venezuela?

00:26:36.000 I don't particularly think that there's a large uh chance, a significant chance that we're going to go into Venezuela actually boots on the ground.

00:26:44.000 I think strikes like this will continue.

00:26:46.000 Um look, at the end of the day, the cartels are out to make money.

00:26:50.000 And if all of their shipments, or not all of the shipments, but if a significant portion of their shipments keep getting blown up, I imagine they're gonna say, all right, it's not worth it to try and ship it into into the U.S. Can we reinstitute colonization?

00:27:02.000 Can we become colonialists again?

00:27:03.000 I love I love it.

00:27:04.000 I want to feel like we land.

00:27:05.000 We still are.

00:27:06.000 Greenland has tons of resources.

00:27:08.000 And the amount of oil that those losers have, like it can't access anymore.

00:27:15.000 Let's get in there. 0.99

00:27:16.000 Let's invade Venezuela. 0.97

00:27:20.000 I'm not joking.

00:27:21.000 Regime change in Venezuela.

00:27:22.000 Yeah, a lot of oil.

00:27:23.000 How are you?

00:27:23.000 How do you have so much oil more than Canada, more than Mexico, more than Saudi Arabia, and your loser central because they kicked out all the companies that were actually.

00:27:36.000 Bye-bye. 0.53

00:27:37.000 Move.

00:27:37.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:27:38.000 So invading.

00:27:39.000 What did we do in Iran?

00:27:40.000 We we we pushed out the the Shah. 1.00

00:27:45.000 We uh we got a bunch of losers in there. 0.94

00:27:47.000 They accidentally had a revolution and we went, oops, I guess we shouldn't have meddled in there. 0.97

00:27:51.000 Like we're always meddling and not getting the money.

00:27:55.000 You know what Anne Coulter said to me once she goes, I hate that these, you know, these chicks all over um the Middle East. 1.00

00:28:02.000 They have so much money, and they don't know how to get the oil out of the ground.

00:28:06.000 We did that.

00:28:06.000 And then they get the money.

00:28:07.000 We should have gone there and just said, I'm paraphrasing Anne right now. 0.97

00:28:11.000 We should have just gone like, hi, uh, you have this dirty black guck in your water supply. 1.00

00:28:17.000 And we'll be removing that now for 100 a month.

00:28:21.000 And then like what do they do with their money?

00:28:25.000 They drive on cars with two wheels on the side, and they have a harem that they skull F. There was a uh someone someone told me a funny story about how there was a small village in Saudi Arabia, and when they found oil just like under part of the village within five years, everybody in the village was wearing thick gold chains and rings and but everything else had the same, like they still lived in you know, little adobe hut kind of things. 0.99

00:28:48.000 It was I was talking to Chris about that island in uh Polynesia where they the coral generates this intense carbon that you sprinkle on your crops and everyone gets rich.

00:28:59.000 And so everyone was a millionaire overnight, and they can't grow their own crops because they're their coral carbon crap is too intense.

00:29:07.000 So they would just import like Popeyes and so they all became this like turgid billionaires uh in Lamborghinis that they didn't know how to drive.

00:29:17.000 Like you you can't you can't help certain cultures that are just not as advanced as ours.

00:29:23.000 You need to go through cultural Siberian winters to know how to spend your money. 0.82

00:29:28.000 Sorry.

00:29:29.000 Um, as far as this story goes, there's a few things, there's a few different things going on.

00:29:33.000 So, first of all, these cartels are terrorist organizations have been designated as such, and so all of these boats are legitimate military targets as far as I'm concerned.

00:29:42.000 Um we've been having a military buildup um outside of Venezuela, and there are a lot of reasons why regime change would make sense there.

00:29:52.000 Um, and there's a few different ways to geopolitically look at this.

00:29:55.000 Um, first of all, it would deal with the cartels, it would also uh help mitigate the immigration crisis that we're seeing from um Venezuela and other South American countries.

00:30:04.000 Also, us getting the oil would be a huge deal.

00:30:07.000 Uh we have the correct oil refineries for Venezuelan oil, which is like thick and sour, so-called thick and sour oil.

00:30:14.000 So this could help mitigate Russia's um benefits off of cheap oil right now that they're sending around the globe. 0.92

00:30:20.000 So like we could help spike those prices down, uh drop those prices if we were able to get that Venezuelan oil should outspaid Venezuela.

00:30:29.000 We should encourage the Venezuelan people to rise up against their fascistic communist country.

00:30:35.000 Okay, okay, I got an idea.

00:30:36.000 I got an idea.

00:30:37.000 Now, if we want to avoid full-scale war with Venezuela, right?

00:30:42.000 Ooh, I'm scared.

00:30:43.000 Well, but it's but it's full-that's but you don't you don't you don't go to 10 right away, don't crank it all the way up real quick, right?

00:30:48.000 We want to if if we can avoid war and take them over, we'd be it's it's better than going to war, right? 0.98

00:30:53.000 We save money.

00:30:53.000 Absolutely.

00:30:54.000 So I got an idea.

00:30:55.000 What if the US, just hear me out, allocated through Congress funds to a U.S. organization that operated under the guise of international aid, but was actually fomenting revolution in foreign countries.

00:31:10.000 And then we call it something like you know, American aid or US USAID.

00:31:16.000 US aid.

00:31:17.000 That works.

00:31:17.000 Yeah, Trump should start that.

00:31:19.000 Could you imagine if we had something like that?

00:31:21.000 That's my attitude with every time the left plays dirty pool, I'm like, where's our dirty pool?

00:31:26.000 Like uh have one.

00:31:27.000 Putin has this thing, little green men, where he sends in uh guys in green uniforms to to foment revolution, and I'm like, okay.

00:31:35.000 And the Wagner group.

00:31:36.000 I mean, that's basically I'm doing that.

00:31:37.000 I want that in Venezuela.

00:31:38.000 Well, picture to Venezuela with the race. 0.98

00:31:40.000 That's what USAID was.

00:31:41.000 Yeah, well, everyone's playing dirty pool but us.

00:31:43.000 But that would be a good thing.

00:31:44.000 Well, the problem is the problem is USAID was woke.

00:31:47.000 And it was it it was to an unwoke.

00:31:50.000 Listen, it was not, it was not pushing American interests.

00:31:53.000 It was convincing third world, it was forcing third world countries to adopt policies towards accepting uh LGBTQ activism and transgenderism. 0.59

00:32:01.000 And the people like in Afghanistan were like, why is this on my wall? 1.00

00:32:04.000 And then worse than America being like, literally, what is the American interest in promoting LGBTQ activism in Afghanistan?

00:32:11.000 Now, if you said we want the oil from Venezuela, sure I can understand that.

00:32:15.000 We can have debate about whether we should or shouldn't, but at least that one makes sense mathematically.

00:32:19.000 Yeah.

00:32:20.000 It's like you're confiscating their pit bull, and they're like, oh, you're gonna put my pit bull down.

00:32:24.000 No, it's my pit bull now.

00:32:27.000 So this story has really gone underreported, and I think it's worthwhile to listen to a couple of the quotes coming out of the administration to show how serious they are about this.

00:32:34.000 So a couple of quotes from Caroline Levitt.

00:32:36.000 One is President Trump has been very clear and consistent.

00:32:38.000 He's prepared to use every element of American power to stop drugs from flooding into our country and to bring those responsible to justice.

00:32:44.000 The Maduro regime is not the legitimate government of Venezuela.

00:32:48.000 It is a narco-terror cartel.

00:32:49.000 Maduro, in the view of this administration, is not the legitimate president.

00:32:53.000 He's a fugitive head of a cartel who has been indicted in the US for trafficking drugs into the country.

00:32:58.000 Those are fighting words, in my estimation.

00:33:01.000 You have more oil than basically anyone ever.

00:33:05.000 I think he's in the top three, four, five, maybe, oil producers in the universe, and he's focusing on Coke.

00:33:14.000 Do you do you remember when the people of Venezuela were starving?

00:33:17.000 And so Maduro went on TV to give an address to the nation, and he didn't realize the cameras were on him the whole time.

00:33:23.000 So he opened a drawer, pulled out an empanada, big bite, and then put it back, and everyone was like, What?

00:33:30.000 What is he legit did that?

00:33:32.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:33:33.000 He's he's a fat guy in a starving nation with a drawer with an empanada. 0.79

00:33:37.000 It's like, buddy, could you not wait 10 minutes before you ate your empanada? 0.97

00:33:41.000 That's Venezuela.

00:33:42.000 Let them eat empanadas.

00:33:45.000 Look, like what you were talking about, like having like little green men, that's literally the job of the Green Berets. 0.99

00:33:51.000 They're they get dropped into hostile territory and they align with the local people that will fight.

00:33:57.000 They try and form a militia, teach him how to fight.

00:34:00.000 So we actually do have the capacity to do it still.

00:34:02.000 Now, whether or not the whether or not the United States will do it, I mean, I don't know.

00:34:07.000 There just needs to be a group of guys standing back and standing by, just ready in case any violence comes onto the street, and we need people protecting, you know, patriots from Antifa.

00:34:19.000 It should be called the unashamed guy.

00:34:20.000 And I can I just this this is true.

00:34:22.000 This is 2017.

00:34:24.000 He was giving it a dress of the nation, and he decided to eat an empanada while live.

00:34:28.000 I guess he thought that the camera had like switched over to something.

00:34:32.000 Bro, it's just like if you waited five minutes, you could have eaten your your empanada.

00:34:38.000 Uh that's that's Venezuela. 0.95

00:34:39.000 The world is brutally corrupt.

00:34:41.000 The drugs are everywhere, the guns aren't going away.

00:34:44.000 Like, this is my problem with the right.

00:34:46.000 They see they see Biden pull out these um hockey bags of votes, right?

00:34:51.000 And they're like, oh my God, we gotta stop the hockey bags.

00:34:54.000 I'm like, look, it's Mad Max.

00:34:56.000 It's post-apocalyptic.

00:34:58.000 Where's our hockey bags?

00:35:00.000 Like, everyone's cheating.

00:35:02.000 We're cheating.

00:35:02.000 You know what uh we uh we've been talking about this uh uh quite a bit.

00:35:05.000 I'm curious your thoughts.

00:35:07.000 For the past several years we've talked quite a bit about the political space.

00:35:11.000 I'm I'm pretty much I don't even really care anymore because the population crisis is substantially uh more let's call it heavier.

00:35:19.000 It it's gonna it's gonna matter substantially more than whether or not there's an election.

00:35:23.000 I'm curious your thoughts on uh where we end up in the next five years, considering you know, I'll put it so Gen Alpha is half the size of Gen Z. Yeah.

00:35:31.000 So there's it's it's an it's a mathematical impossibility to recover unless Gen Alpha has six kids each.

00:35:37.000 Well, there's two things going on at once, and they're they're both antithetical.

00:35:40.000 There's there's this insane influx of immigrants, and even before Biden, there was I I would say 30 million illegals in America. 1.00

00:35:48.000 He let in 12 million.

00:35:51.000 That's Ellis Island's entirety over 80 years.

00:35:54.000 So even if Trump deports 10,000 a day for the remaining of his term, We're still back to 30 million.

00:36:03.000 So you have that problem, and then you have the problem of, of course, locals not breeding.

00:36:08.000 And they're not a good combo.

00:36:10.000 I don't know.

00:36:11.000 There's something about God put this little microchip in every group.

00:36:16.000 I used to say it was whites, but it's every group.

00:36:18.000 When they get successful, they stop breeding.

00:36:20.000 I don't know why that is.

00:36:22.000 Like Mexicans, as they make money, more money, they have less kids. 1.00

00:36:25.000 The Japanese have this same crisis. 0.94

00:36:27.000 It's called it's called behavioral sync, and every I I we we believe all mammals do it.

00:36:32.000 Yeah.

00:36:33.000 I don't like that.

00:36:34.000 Have more kids when you have more money.

00:36:37.000 Have less kids when you have less money.

00:36:39.000 For some, it's like a design flaw in nature for some reason.

00:36:42.000 You know about the rat utopia experiment, right?

00:36:45.000 Yeah.

00:36:45.000 The the the when the rats had infinite food and water, what did they do?

00:36:49.000 They started doing exactly they did they do exactly what humans are doing now.

00:36:53.000 Humans are exhibiting behavioral sink.

00:36:55.000 But my my concern is, you know, in the short term, we talk about you know big mail-in bags and votes, and Trump is talking about we gotta get rid of mail-in voting, and then there's conversations about war, and I'm like, yo, in five years, all your grocery stores are gonna start shut going out of business.

00:37:09.000 You're not gonna be able to get certain fruits or vegetables uh out of season anymore.

00:37:13.000 Your beef, oof, that's gonna be just click at the borders and figure it out.

00:37:17.000 I mean, there's so many different factors.

00:37:19.000 Like a few people are talking about this.

00:37:23.000 We created the West is contingent on a lot of things.

00:37:27.000 Western culture was built on cold winters for one.

00:37:30.000 I gotta pickle stuff, or I'm gonna start.

00:37:33.000 I also think I have to be ultra benevolent. 0.91

00:37:37.000 I gotta help the retard. 1.00

00:37:39.000 Or uh, can I say that? 0.94

00:37:40.000 Uh or we're all second time already.

00:37:43.000 So I uh have you uh I I imagine you've spent time in like Mediterranean cultures.

00:37:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:48.000 I I can't do it.

00:37:50.000 No, the the the laziness.

00:37:50.000 The heat?

00:37:52.000 Yeah, it's brutal.

00:37:53.000 So uh the food.

00:37:55.000 What is what's your favorite Costa Rican food?

00:37:58.000 No, no, no.

00:37:58.000 There's no such thing.

00:38:00.000 Puerto Rican food, it's a hot banana with a little leaf on it, and and then they tie it with a string.

00:38:06.000 What the hell am I eating?

00:38:07.000 A boiled string.

00:38:09.000 Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:38:10.000 I gotta stop you there, buddy.

00:38:11.000 Okay, I can't speak for Puerto Rico.

00:38:13.000 They have something similar, but uh, I think it's Dominican, mango.

00:38:16.000 No.

00:38:16.000 Have you ever had that?

00:38:17.000 Okay.

00:38:18.000 For breakfast, you get boiled mashed plantains with pickled onions, fried salami, and fried cheese, and it's like the best breakfast.

00:38:26.000 Okay, fried salami and cheeses, that's me.

00:38:28.000 And that's what they eat.

00:38:29.000 So you're it's like the Indians. 1.00

00:38:30.000 I love their little beaded shoes, but those beads are mine. 1.00

00:38:34.000 Like half the time any culture has anything good, it's like my shit. 0.99

00:38:37.000 Okay, let me let me say though. 1.00

00:38:38.000 Spain, right?

00:38:39.000 I went to Southern, I went to Southern Spain, and they have the best ham I've ever had.

00:38:43.000 Fantastic.

00:38:44.000 Okay.

00:38:45.000 Spain is the West. 0.90

00:38:46.000 Except they're also siesta.

00:38:46.000 Sure.

00:38:49.000 They're there's a siesta culture.

00:38:50.000 Yeah, that's weird.

00:38:51.000 It's terrible.

00:38:52.000 So it's too hour nap in the middle of the day.

00:38:55.000 And I have to work.

00:38:56.000 So I'm on a schedule and I have obligations.

00:38:59.000 And so I'm in Southern Spain, and it's like one o'clock, and I'm like, I better go grab lunch right now while I still have time.

00:39:04.000 And I'm like, when does it open?

00:39:04.000 Everything's closed.

00:39:06.000 Like four.

00:39:06.000 I was like, well, what am I supposed to do?

00:39:08.000 I guess I gotta eat.

00:39:10.000 You can afford to live like that when you live in a culture that is outlawed cousin marriage. 0.55

00:39:10.000 You know what? 0.55

00:39:15.000 Now, have you been to Athens?

00:39:17.000 We are importing, hold on.

00:39:19.000 We are importing cultures that don't outlaw cousin marriage.

00:39:23.000 We don't outlook a they are inbred.

00:39:25.000 Yeah, we do.

00:39:26.000 Uh let me let me pull up the exact number.

00:39:28.000 You know you're in West Virginia, right?

00:39:30.000 No, I think well, there's people that cheat, but generally the Western world over the past 20 years has been 20 U.S. states allow cousin marriage and New York allows you to gay marry your cousin. 0.83

00:39:46.000 Oh boy.

00:39:47.000 Oh, is that to say you can't gay marry your cousin in the other states?

00:39:50.000 Uh the there's like I think two or three states that allow gay marriage and cousin marriage. 0.83

00:39:56.000 You there okay, so you can't really be inbred if you're gay. 1.00

00:39:58.000 Like your poo is gonna be inbred. 1.00

00:40:00.000 So so here's how it works. 0.98

00:40:01.000 There's uh a certain number of states that allow gay marriage, a certain number of states that allow uh cousin marriage, and a couple that have unregulated gay cousin marriage.

00:40:09.000 Now, obviously with Obergefell and the Supreme Court rulings, all states were are required to recognize gay marriage now.

00:40:15.000 So there's a lot more states, twenty that allow you to get it's not because it's not our culture.

00:40:20.000 It happens, it may be legal somewhere, but as our DNA.

00:40:25.000 We're not made of cousin marriage.

00:40:28.000 Most of the people we're importing now are made of cousin marriage.

00:40:31.000 It is and when you take our best asset, not cousin breeding, and you import the worst part of the rest of the world, you have this poop soup. 0.99

00:40:42.000 Well, so uh let me let me give the the hard details for people who aren't familiar.

00:40:46.000 Uh in the Middle East, it is extremely common to marry your cousin. 0.91

00:40:48.000 It's in the Quran.

00:40:49.000 It's a culturally normal thing, and we know scientifically that it results in in an increased aggression and a decrease in IQ.

00:40:56.000 Jinx This is why my Joe Rogan episode is banned, by the way.

00:40:59.000 Because you brought up said this.

00:41:01.000 And it it's it's it's very bad to do once.

00:41:05.000 It's not great to do twice.

00:41:07.000 You breed your cousins 50 generations. 0.71

00:41:11.000 Is it wait?

00:41:11.000 They they banned your episode over this?

00:41:13.000 Hey, look, here's a Wikipedia article, cousin marriage in the Middle East.

00:41:15.000 Both my Joe Rogan episodes are banned because I brought up this unbelievably terrible subject.

00:41:20.000 Really?

00:41:23.000 Pakistan in Britain is let me put nine different things on top of each other.

00:41:28.000 Let me let me read this.

00:41:29.000 Rates of cousin marriage in the Middle East have been found to vary from 29% in Egypt to 58% in Saudi Arabia.

00:41:35.000 Don't pull that up, Jamie.

00:41:36.000 We're gonna get banned.

00:41:37.000 But hold on, I'm just gonna I want to stress this is Wikipedia, right?

00:41:40.000 If if if if YouTube's got a problem with a Wikipedia article saying this is a thing that we say happens, pulled up.

00:41:46.000 Really?

00:41:47.000 And they and they they banned it.

00:41:49.000 Yeah.

00:41:49.000 That's wild.

00:41:50.000 I actually thought this was a fairly common and and mainstream understanding.

00:41:54.000 What's great about being banned is no one knows you're banned.

00:41:59.000 So people are like, you were on Joe Rogan, and I haven't seen your tweets recently.

00:42:03.000 And I'm like, my Joe Rogans are banned, my Twitter's banned.

00:42:06.000 Dude, how are you still banned?

00:42:06.000 I'm banned.

00:42:08.000 Everybody's unbanned.

00:42:09.000 You're the only guy left.

00:42:10.000 Laura Loomer, Alex Jones, and everybody's back, but in a few minutes.

00:42:15.000 I'm just much more influential than you guys.

00:42:17.000 In a few minutes, we're gonna talk about what I'm calling Floyd Gate.

00:42:21.000 Uh and so there are these string of hilarious racist jokes.

00:42:26.000 And and it's it's it's targeting white people too.

00:42:29.000 I don't know if you know, it's not a left or right thing.

00:42:31.000 They get millions of views on Instagram.

00:42:32.000 Instagram is just reveling in AI generated race jokes.

00:42:37.000 Yeah.

00:42:38.000 And that's why it's pretty crazy.

00:42:39.000 F do you ban them?

00:42:41.000 Well, you just they banned you.

00:42:42.000 Okay, that's the point.

00:42:44.000 I know, but an AI cartoon of George Floyd.

00:42:47.000 So you'd have to set, tell your algorithm ban George Floyd's face, and then it's like a memorial for how great he is, and that gets banned.

00:42:54.000 So they don't know what to do.

00:42:54.000 They they the the double standard we saw on the big tech platforms in the in the 2010s.

00:43:00.000 They you had you had liberals posting uh wood chippers saying they wanted to throw c Christian children into it, and Twitter wouldn't ban them. 0.98

00:43:07.000 And then someone says hashtag learn to code and gets banned.

00:43:10.000 It's easy for them to enforce a double standard.

00:43:12.000 So what what my point right now is it's it's crazy to hear that you are still banned on X when you go on Instagram and there's there was one video with seven million views just mocking Indian people for not showering.

00:43:25.000 Yeah, I saw that.

00:43:26.000 There's tons of them, they're everywhere.

00:43:27.000 And it's like it's 6.8 million views in this video, and all the comments are laughing, and I'm like, the pendulum has swung really hard in the other direction, right?

00:43:36.000 And and I know there's still remnants of woke and these battles are still happening, but Trump won, and I I that's why I'm saying you'd think by now, maybe maybe you don't it is just you know here's what I think.

00:43:46.000 I had a conversation with uh with Google recently, and we were discussing the algorithm.

00:43:53.000 I believe it's like AI or you people at Google.

00:43:56.000 I was actually talking to a person at Google.

00:43:57.000 I was talking a human being who works at Google.

00:43:59.000 And I said, I believe that at the height of censorship, there were varying degrees of weights placed on different personalities.

00:43:59.000 Okay.

00:44:07.000 Some were outright banned, some were censored, some were delisted, you know, shadow banned, etc.

00:44:13.000 It's a fact that all of my YouTube channels were removed from Google.

00:44:17.000 And you'd go on Google and search for my channel, my name, the title of the video, and it would not come up.

00:44:22.000 And it was only a couple years ago when I was talking about on the show that it finally got lifted live in real time while we're on the show.

00:44:27.000 It was kind of crazy.

00:44:28.000 So I told this Google person, you know, I think I think you have restrictions on my account that have been there, legacy restrictions from the Biden from from the the first Trump era, the censorship wave, extending into the Biden era, and now that we're moving into the space where the expectation of the individual at Google is no, no, we're not doing that right now.

00:44:47.000 You guys haven't gone in to all the old channels that legacy channels that fought through this and removed those restrictions.

00:44:53.000 So I guarantee you, if I launch a new YouTube channel, I bet none of those restrictions will exist.

00:44:59.000 And I believe I'm I'm already proving it.

00:45:01.000 I launched a new YouTube channel.

00:45:02.000 YouTube gave me the at Tim Pool channel.

00:45:04.000 Everyone go subscribe to YouTube at Tim Pool.

00:45:07.000 And I did a video the other day, commentary on a Jubilee video with PBD.

00:45:12.000 And you know what?

00:45:13.000 You know where I can see the evidence?

00:45:14.000 It's not proof yet, but it's evidence.

00:45:17.000 The video had sustained viewership for two days.

00:45:20.000 On all of on Timcast IRL, Timcast, and Timcast News, the video will sh will when when it when it goes public, it's a ton of views and then slowly drops off and disappears.

00:45:30.000 After 24 hours, the video is completely gone.

00:45:32.000 And it's been that way for a while.

00:45:33.000 And it tells, oh, it's because it's news.

00:45:35.000 Oh yeah.

00:45:36.000 I do a video on a brand new channel, Tim Pool, and the views stay for two whole days.

00:45:40.000 And I'm like, that's because YouTube strapped a bunch of censorship to a ton of channels.

00:45:45.000 And the people who did have moved on.

00:45:45.000 Yeah.

00:45:47.000 And now the code or whatever they injected onto our accounts and this channel, for instance, Timcast IRL, it's still there.

00:45:54.000 And the new employees who come in are like, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:45:57.000 So make on these shows.

00:45:59.000 What like how much money?

00:46:00.000 How much money will you make on tonight's show?

00:46:00.000 Yeah.

00:46:02.000 Uh it's really hard to figure out the individual number for the show.

00:46:06.000 No, no, no.

00:46:07.000 But once it's cut.

00:46:08.000 So you're so I don't.

00:46:09.000 There's there's a bunch of different uh areas of revenue.

00:46:12.000 Are you asking how much will YouTube pay me?

00:46:15.000 Or how much will I make in 2000?

00:46:16.000 How much will YouTube pay you?

00:46:18.000 Probably three grand.

00:46:20.000 Okay.

00:46:21.000 Three thousand dollars just off of YouTube after a couple of days.

00:46:25.000 And then you can monetize it in other So we had two sponsors today.

00:46:29.000 Sponsors.

00:46:30.000 I don't know the exact rate from those individual sponsors, but it can range from five or ten.

00:46:35.000 Five or ten grand.

00:46:36.000 Yeah.

00:46:36.000 Oh, okay, wow.

00:46:37.000 Yeah.

00:46:38.000 Uh, but it we're we're in uh we're in the offseason right now, so rates are rates are low.

00:46:43.000 Uh sponsors, that's ten.

00:46:45.000 Five's probably a little on the lower end, but maybe yeah.

00:46:48.000 Thirteen.

00:46:48.000 Yeah.

00:46:49.000 Then we have um so in in direct, then we have the clips from the show.

00:46:54.000 So uh then we have the audio ad revenue.

00:46:56.000 So YouTube gives us, you know, like three grand.

00:46:59.000 Then we might sell like between five and ten in sponsorships, which we we didn't we we only recently started doing.

00:47:04.000 We didn't do this before.

00:47:05.000 We rarely took sponsors.

00:47:06.000 Then on the uh let me do some quick math on uh the audio side.

00:47:10.000 It's hard because all in the audio side, oh like a podcast.

00:47:13.000 Yeah, like Spotify and Apple.

00:47:14.000 Right, right.

00:47:14.000 So because that's all all of our shows are lumped together, like inverted world pop culture, Tim Pool, culture, like we've got like seven or eight different podcasts.

00:47:21.000 I would estimate IRL.

00:47:23.000 Excuse me.

00:47:24.000 Um so we've probably got you know let's say 20 grand for four it's probably it's it's it's way more than that.

00:47:32.000 And you do this more than that?

00:47:34.000 Yeah, because but it but it's it's it's all these different avenues.

00:47:38.000 Uh I mean we do we do uh we do um I think last how many of these do you do uh a week?

00:47:44.000 Five?

00:47:45.000 Yeah.

00:47:46.000 Monday through Friday.

00:47:47.000 You probably work 50 weeks a year, roughly.

00:47:50.000 Uh yes.

00:47:51.000 Only because they make me.

00:47:53.000 Uh don't forget it's other show too, Gavin.

00:47:55.000 Yeah, don't forget the morning shows and the new show and uh Oh, this is too complicated.

00:48:00.000 I can't let us know like four million a year.

00:48:02.000 Fifteen.

00:48:06.000 You've done the math.

00:48:07.000 But but but that's not IRL.

00:48:09.000 I I I IRL is probably four.

00:48:11.000 That's great. 0.97

00:48:11.000 Because I remember talking to you a long time ago, and and someone was like, You're gonna get banned from YouTube, and you go, I don't give a shit. 0.97

00:48:16.000 And I remember thinking, that's a lot of money to say you don't give a shit about. 0.99

00:48:20.000 It it could say shit, right? 0.99

00:48:22.000 We try not to swear because people are like watching us on the kids in there. 0.99

00:48:26.000 But uh uh so we've got the Tim Pool morning show, which is there's there's uh it it breaks down into the Culture War show.

00:48:34.000 We put up an audio podcast, which every day Monday through Thursday is an interview I do with with somebody, and then Fridays is the is the full debate.

00:48:42.000 And we've done a few of these that have been like audience shows.

00:48:44.000 You were at one of them, so you you know what that's fun.

00:48:46.000 It was it was super cool.

00:48:48.000 The morning show is me monologuing, so that's one podcast.

00:48:51.000 The culture war is a second podcast, and then Timcast.

00:48:53.000 So I'm doing I do three shows per day, and it is merciless, it's brutal.

00:48:58.000 How many hours is that?

00:48:59.000 I think I think I do a total of about five and a half hours of content per day.

00:49:02.000 I work five and a half hours a day.

00:49:04.000 No, I don't work five and a half hours a day.

00:49:05.000 Five hours five and a half hours of content that gets released.

00:49:07.000 So then hours a day.

00:49:09.000 Sixteen.

00:49:11.000 Okay, that's not that's not um what's the word?

00:49:14.000 Late work.

00:49:16.000 Plausible.

00:49:17.000 No, it is.

00:49:18.000 I'll tell you.

00:49:20.000 So I wake up's not the right word.

00:49:22.000 Uh I wake up at 7:30.

00:49:23.000 Here's uh, you know, we've been doing this for sustainable, that's the word.

00:49:27.000 I so when I first started the YouTube channel, uh Timcast, I worked seven days a week, eight hours a day.

00:49:33.000 Then in 2020, we launched Timcast IRL, which gave me two shows per day.

00:49:36.000 So I worked seven days a week, but Saturday and Sunday was only one show.

00:49:39.000 Monday to Friday was two shows.

00:49:41.000 So I was working.

00:49:43.000 Usually I'd work from like 7 a.m. until about 4 p.m.

00:49:47.000 And then I'd come back and work from seven until ten.

00:49:50.000 We added the after show, which puts us to 11 o'clock now.

00:49:53.000 And then with the administrative stuff I have to do in between, I basically wake up at 7 30, immediately I'm on my phone looking at notifications, looking at news.

00:50:01.000 Give me about a half an hour to get ready for the day.

00:50:03.000 And then I'm in that's why you don't drink.

00:50:06.000 Well, I don't drink because that would inhibit my ability to get my work done.

00:50:10.000 Yeah.

00:50:10.000 Or do any drugs.

00:50:11.000 Yeah.

00:50:11.000 Straight up.

00:50:12.000 Weakness.

00:50:13.000 Weak.

00:50:14.000 It's a good role model.

00:50:15.000 You want to watch your kids around too.

00:50:17.000 You want to see your kids.

00:50:18.000 Yeah.

00:50:19.000 That's right.

00:50:19.000 You want to see your kids.

00:50:20.000 Right.

00:50:21.000 You know, and that's and that that has been a challenge that we've discussed in the in the past year or so with I now have a daughter.

00:50:26.000 It is increasingly problematic that I'm doing three shows plus the administrative work on other shows every single day.

00:50:32.000 And now with the culture war and the boony state stuff, it's Saturdays are being picked up.

00:50:37.000 And I think um I I just went to the ER a few weeks ago.

00:50:41.000 Really?

00:50:42.000 Yeah, I think I'm probably gonna die. 1.00

00:50:44.000 What the fuck? 0.99

00:50:46.000 No, once they surf once they start walking, dude, you want to be around, man. 0.99

00:50:50.000 Dude, I want to be around for a few weeks.

00:50:52.000 I uh the audience.

00:50:54.000 Yeah, I went to the water.

00:50:55.000 Well, so basically what happened was like when we did that show, I was losing my voice and my my I was talking like this.

00:51:00.000 Uh I was sick and I kept taking ibuprofen to keep working because I'll be damned if I stop working, no one's gonna stop me.

00:51:07.000 And then I went to the ER.

00:51:09.000 Yeah, you were sick for like three weeks.

00:51:11.000 Yeah, I know, it was brutal.

00:51:12.000 And if I had just taken Maybe that was nature going, I want you to be with your baby.

00:51:16.000 Well, I spent three weeks somewhat with the baby.

00:51:18.000 I couldn't be sick near the baby, so I was in the other room.

00:51:22.000 But the issue is I got sick, and instead of just saying I better take a week, I was like, I can't take time off.

00:51:27.000 And so I was forced a couple days off, and I was coughing and like uh as soon as I was able to talk, I was like, Advil, let's go, baby, back to work.

00:51:37.000 And then uh worked for the weekend as well with the Saturday show.

00:51:42.000 And then the next week got sick again, and I was like, Oh, here we go.

00:51:44.000 Why am I still sick?

00:51:45.000 Ibuprofen, got sick again, and then three weeks of this, and then it was after the final show we did at the Comedy Loft.

00:51:53.000 Monday, I was like, I'm good.

00:51:54.000 Tuesday, I'm feeling sick again.

00:51:56.000 And then that night, Tuesday, my throat was swelling up.

00:51:59.000 By three in the morning, I was I was like lying in bed drenched in sweat, my throat was so swollen, I thought I was gonna die, went to the ER.

00:52:05.000 They gave me steroids to reduce the swelling because my throat was so swollen.

00:52:08.000 Yeah, we got we gotta fix this business plan.

00:52:11.000 Like 15 million a year.

00:52:13.000 Once you accrue like a hundred million, the interest alone is five million dollars.

00:52:18.000 That's not what matters.

00:52:20.000 I understand, but like let's that's I think your fans would be happy with two hours a day.

00:52:27.000 I think the uh I think work must be done, and if I'm not gonna do it, who is?

00:52:34.000 You get it in two hours. 0.91

00:52:35.000 I think the show sucks without him. 0.97

00:52:37.000 We really needed them. 0.99

00:52:38.000 The show is so bad.

00:52:40.000 And don't have a show.

00:52:41.000 I missed him hours a day, two hours a day.

00:52:43.000 No, we need our Tim.

00:52:43.000 Let's do it.

00:52:44.000 Why are you trying to get us off our Tim fit?

00:52:46.000 I'm trying to get you guys fired.

00:52:48.000 That's what I do.

00:52:48.000 Yeah, I'm trying to get the opposite going.

00:52:50.000 Bro, there's so much wrong with this country and this world right now.

00:52:53.000 And you can squeeze it in two hours a day.

00:52:55.000 No.

00:52:56.000 You know what I feel like?

00:52:57.000 I feel like sometimes the ship is sinking and I'm bailing water as hard as fast as I can, but the ship is gonna sink either way, so it's kind of scary, but you can't stop bailing, you know.

00:53:05.000 You're the captain, you have to sip sink with the ship.

00:53:07.000 Uh well, I'm talking in in the culture where I wouldn't consider myself to be the captain.

00:53:11.000 I'm just someone who's like, if I don't captain, Alex Jones?

00:53:15.000 No.

00:53:17.000 I no, I mean, you could arguably say Trump, I guess, but I don't know if that makes sense either, because uh the culture war is bigger than just the government.

00:53:25.000 It it is what makes civil like civilization for it to exist requires strong men who are willing to work and and do whatever it takes.

00:53:34.000 You know?

00:53:36.000 Yeah, I think two hours shows a day is how much do you make at censored dot TV?

00:53:43.000 I make about uh six hundred grand a year.

00:53:46.000 Nice off of censor.

00:53:48.000 With Vice, I made ten million dollars with Rooster, the ad agency, I made four million dollars.

00:53:53.000 So I've got about thirty million dollars in the bank.

00:53:56.000 Oh, not bad.

00:53:57.000 And you get returns on that.

00:53:59.000 I get Well, interest is five percent a year.

00:54:02.000 So uh I can't spend my interest. 1.00

00:54:06.000 And I'm a cheap asshole. 0.99

00:54:07.000 I have a pool from Timu. 1.00

00:54:09.000 Why why why not though?

00:54:11.000 Like I'm talking to my wife and we're gonna get those inflatable Walmart pools. 0.99

00:54:14.000 You ever see those?

00:54:15.000 Yeah.

00:54:15.000 You inflate the ring and then put the hose in it, it just floats up.

00:54:18.000 Well, I had a place upstate and we bought a I spent 50 grand on a pool, which upstate is insane because no one has any money.

00:54:24.000 And I it was a massive pool with a big deep end.

00:54:27.000 And I I bought the house.

00:54:29.000 It was I was David Cross's neighbor.

00:54:31.000 We bought it together.

00:54:32.000 We were good friends back when I was okay with the hipsters. 0.69

00:54:35.000 And uh I I s I got the house for f I built the house myself.

00:54:39.000 I designed it 400 grand, uh, which doesn't sound like a lot, but it is uh in upstate New York.

00:54:45.000 And then I spent another 50 grand on a pool.

00:54:47.000 The I sold the place for 400 grand.

00:54:49.000 No one wanted the pool.

00:54:53.000 So on this house, I got like an eighteen hundred dollar pool on Amazon that could be torn out tomorrow.

00:55:01.000 And like the deck was 150 grand, the pool was was eighteen hundred dollars.

00:55:08.000 Wow.

00:55:09.000 My my my view on everything.

00:55:10.000 So uh let me let me provide some context to the numbers and everything for the people that are listening.

00:55:15.000 Uh I don't personally put 15 million dollars in my pocket every year.

00:55:18.000 Uh almost all of the money, the overall majority goes towards paying staff, building infrastructure, working out.

00:55:23.000 Right, sorry, when I said I make that, I meant like censored.tv grosses that.

00:55:26.000 Yeah.

00:55:27.000 So uh after all the costs, I would say I do well, but uh I've said this before, I've explained it before, and you know, some people get mad at me for saying it.

00:55:36.000 If I didn't do Tim Cast IRL and literally only did my morning show, I'd probably make five million a year with zero staff and no overhead.

00:55:43.000 Great, sold.

00:55:44.000 Do it.

00:55:44.000 Why?

00:55:45.000 More time with your family.

00:55:47.000 Sure, and then the world burns down.

00:55:52.000 I'm glad he has this ambition and love for the game.

00:55:54.000 Why are you trying to put us out of business?

00:55:55.000 No, you'll still don't fire these guys.

00:55:59.000 But that's a like that's a lot of Tim.

00:56:03.000 Two hours a day.

00:56:05.000 Yeah.

00:56:06.000 You know, one one argument is that uh I've actually produced too much content and it's diluting.

00:56:12.000 Yeah.

00:56:12.000 And I I've had uh like I'm not in your league, obviously, but I've had guys say like, stop doing your shows three hours long.

00:56:19.000 I I'm way behind.

00:56:20.000 I'm like two weeks behind.

00:56:22.000 So I've I've I've gone down to like an hour twenty a day, because people usually commute to work for 40 minutes and they commute back 40 minutes, and then we stay caught up with each other.

00:56:34.000 So the there's a couple different ways to look at it.

00:56:37.000 One is if I put out fifty I think I think we probably do let me do some quick math.

00:56:42.000 We do four, five, eleven, I think I think it's like 11 individual segments each day, plus a one-hour morning show and a and a three-hour nightly show.

00:56:53.000 And so what happens is one individual can only watch about 40 minutes per day of content.

00:56:59.000 And so if you s if I were to stop doing everything and do one one-hour show, that one hour show would get two or three million views.

00:56:59.000 Yeah.

00:57:07.000 Because what's happening is while we're it's a diminishing return.

00:57:10.000 While we're getting uh, I think we're getting like 2.5 to 3 million per day.

00:57:15.000 I think it's actually I think it's like th it's like three and a half to four, actually, because of the audio stuff too.

00:57:19.000 I'm not I'm not including.

00:57:21.000 But it's spread out over all these different avenues.

00:57:24.000 So an individual individual person watches a lot of Tim Pool content, but it's a ton of different videos, so each individual video is getting 50 to 100k.

00:57:31.000 They'd find their way to you.

00:57:32.000 Well, that the idea is if we got rid of it all and I did two videos, everybody would watch that one video and it would get a million views.

00:57:38.000 I'd still make the same amount of money.

00:57:38.000 Yes.

00:57:39.000 Yeah.

00:57:40.000 And you'd have all that time with your daughter.

00:57:42.000 Again, these guys are glaring at me.

00:57:44.000 All right.

00:57:44.000 I'm not gonna hire them.

00:57:46.000 You make you make a great point, Gavin.

00:57:47.000 Um I'm gonna pay you guys out.

00:57:52.000 Uh I got a couple hundred bucks right here.

00:57:54.000 And Phil, the show is all yours.

00:57:56.000 All right.

00:57:56.000 Back to Phil and Cash.

00:57:57.000 But the point of like a big part of the reason.

00:58:00.000 A big part of the reason.

00:58:01.000 Well, he's not gone now.

00:58:02.000 And you're a rock star, so you have some money in the bank too.

00:58:05.000 I'm by far the broken person out.

00:58:07.000 There's a dude in the chat yelling at me already.

00:58:09.000 Like, this is the this is like the weirdest, craziest thing about working in this industry.

00:58:12.000 You know, you know, look, I could be like these other personalities and just never tell anybody anything about what's going on behind the scenes or how the machine operates.

00:58:20.000 People be like, how much money you make?

00:58:22.000 Like, wouldn't you like to know?

00:58:23.000 I'll never say.

00:58:24.000 And it's like because people get mad at you if you tell them the truth.

00:58:26.000 These numbers are standard for the industry too.

00:58:26.000 Yeah.

00:58:28.000 Uh no, I think I'm better at than most people.

00:58:30.000 Like the Ben Shapiro's, the Michael Knowles, the other people who are in the middle of the city.

00:58:37.000 Yeah, because like Tim is in the in the class of like the the people at Daily Wire.

00:58:43.000 But then there's a l there's like an infinite number of people that are way, way that don't even that you don't even register.

00:58:50.000 You don't even think about it.

00:58:51.000 Right.

00:58:51.000 When people are thinking of bands, they think of like, you know, the big big big bands, but like the bands that are beneath them are almost infinite.

00:58:59.000 Um one of the a point I wanted to make is part of the reason why he does this show that is this show is is one that actually attracts that consistently attracts people that give him access to like he interviewed the president.

00:59:13.000 He wouldn't have had the opportunity to interview the president, or likely wouldn't have had the opportunity if it wasn't for IRL.

00:59:18.000 You think so?

00:59:19.000 Yeah, before we launched IRL, my my uh the one podcast I have was called the Tim Pool morning show, the Tim Pool Daily Show, which still exists, but it was the 34th biggest podcast in the world on all platforms.

00:59:29.000 That was like the peak height.

00:59:31.000 And uh it was you know, several episodes, sometimes it'd be in the top 10 or whatever.

00:59:36.000 When we launched IRL, it split the audience, which reduces both podcasts from the top rankings.

00:59:42.000 So if you because if you're getting a couple hundred thousand on each show, if you do one show, you get 500, you're number one.

00:59:48.000 YouTube got super woke again and was like, he's dead to us.

00:59:52.000 You got rumble and that's we make we uh the audio podcast makes a lot of money too.

00:59:57.000 So you don't need YouTube.

00:59:58.000 Nah.

00:59:59.000 Yeah.

01:00:00.000 This is a huge psy-op, Gavin, you're gonna be able to do that.

01:00:01.000 Yeah, but so let me let me let me let me say this.

01:00:03.000 Uh Timcast IRL can't exist without uh my morning show subsidizing it.

01:00:08.000 Timcast IRL is too expensive to uh to exist.

01:00:11.000 And morning is on your rumble?

01:00:14.000 Uh so I do on on YouTube in the morning, I'll put up four segments on YouTube.com slash Timcast News, and then at noon on Rumble, I do a full hour, which the first half an hour is the story of the day, followed by an interview.

01:00:29.000 Right, but my question was what if YouTube was like F him is dead to it.

01:00:33.000 Yeah, if I just I just put the the audio version up, I'd I wouldn't really affect your income.

01:00:38.000 Uh would, but not devastating.

01:00:40.000 No, yeah, I mean it it would be, but like if if YouTube banned us outright across the board all channels, Tim Castyro wouldn't exist anymore.

01:00:48.000 It's not sustainable.

01:00:49.000 Uh everybody would lose their jobs.

01:00:52.000 I would host a morning show podcast and I'd be Kevin.

01:00:58.000 Before I worked your Gavin, Gavin tried to hire me.

01:01:00.000 So this is a good thing.

01:01:00.000 Well, actually, I'll put it like this the offers that the offers that I've had for bouts, because we're independently like it's an independent company from the ground up from its get go.

01:01:08.000 I'd imagine if I got banned across the board on all platforms, like they just said your channels are gone, you don't make money.

01:01:12.000 If it's assuming I wasn't persona non grata, I'd end up at one of these networks.

01:01:17.000 Well, wait a minute.

01:01:18.000 What is Fox News?

01:01:19.000 I I I'm sorry to bore the viewers with with this is the thing about men.

01:01:22.000 I'm well, let me just stress it's a very slow news day.

01:01:25.000 Like what's my own?

01:01:27.000 When women talk to each other, I've noticed they're like, oh my God, I want to go home and just like have a bath and put on my sweatpants and go Netflix and chill. 1.00

01:01:34.000 And when men talk, they're like, so what do you do? 0.99

01:01:36.000 Sanitation?

01:01:37.000 So wouldn't it make sense to to pick up the stuff early in the day?

01:01:41.000 Like you you skip the heat, and then you could do like maybe uh a second run later or something.

01:01:48.000 So I'm sorry to bore everyone at home, but I'm I just love everyone else's job.

01:01:53.000 Um what about Tim Pool.com and everyone pays five bucks a month.

01:01:57.000 We do that.

01:01:58.000 Okay.

01:01:58.000 Yeah, we have a Discord community, and so uh a good portion of the revenue we generate is from our our community members.

01:02:04.000 And so that's why if you went a hundred percent into that, then no one could get you anywhere else.

01:02:09.000 You'd obviously thousands, maybe millions of people, but still if so, so here's the thing YouTube is a big driver of of new users.

01:02:17.000 The uh it's hard to grow on the audio podcast side.

01:02:20.000 Uh word of mouth is how podcasts get attention.

01:02:23.000 That's just really it.

01:02:25.000 And with the uh rapid expansion in the market of more and more people easily making podcasts, everybody's trying to do it.

01:02:32.000 It's it's saturating, and everybody's uh viewership is going down.

01:02:35.000 It's getting harder and harder.

01:02:36.000 With AI content, this is happening as well.

01:02:36.000 Yeah.

01:02:38.000 So what what so look let's say this tomorrow YouTube says all your YouTube channels are gone.

01:02:44.000 We would probably still exist for two years because we have a community, but the community has has a standard attrition rate and without functional marketing to build that community.

01:02:54.000 Yeah, that's where I'm at.

01:02:56.000 You you start slowly going down.

01:02:57.000 I I am I'm dying like bone cancer Because I can't advertise.

01:03:01.000 I I've tried advertising on Twitter and they're like, I know who you are. 1.00

01:03:04.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:03:05.000 F you. 1.00

01:03:06.000 Buy billboards.

01:03:07.000 They're cheap and they work.

01:03:08.000 Okay.

01:03:09.000 We we've got we've got a hundred billboards across the US.

01:03:12.000 And it is crazy.

01:03:14.000 So we we did a few in Times Square a couple years ago.

01:03:17.000 We actually got the whole North Tower on New Year's.

01:03:19.000 It was amazing.

01:03:20.000 And uh we got I I bought a billboard above ABC News because I had worked for ABC News, and I thought it would be the greatest, like, look at me now. 0.97

01:03:29.000 Because these people are that they're woke, they're lunatics, they're they're they're liars. 0.74

01:03:35.000 The the billboard that we put above ABC News in Times Square for one month was $30,000. 0.97

01:03:41.000 And it was a crazy 24 hours a day.

01:03:45.000 It's a vinyl physical billboard that was there 24-7 for one month, and they gave me an extension for half off because nobody was buying it, which is crazy.

01:03:54.000 And uh it's it's 45 feet wide, and so they gave it to us.

01:03:58.000 We have it in a big box, and I'm like, I don't know.

01:04:01.000 It's it's like it wouldn't even fit.

01:04:03.000 Pull it out on the lawn.

01:04:04.000 So there, you know, there's the there's options like that.

01:04:07.000 But um, so here's here's what I say to people like what the reason why I say I'm always like I don't I don't do it as often, but like, hey, join the Timcast Discord is because Timcast IRL requires travel and accommodation for our guests.

01:04:18.000 We don't do the over we don't do digital, uh, the Zoom calls because they don't work the same.

01:04:23.000 You don't get the Gavin swinging the mic and Yeah, you can't see the eyes.

01:04:26.000 It's yeah, or the guy smacking the microphone, screaming, I'm not that guy, things like that.

01:04:31.000 So we want to invite people out.

01:04:34.000 We built the building from scratch, which I'm not, I don't think it's fair to include in our hard costs, but staffing, infrastructure, server racks, like there's a lot that goes into it.

01:04:42.000 Uh and even then it's it's a struggle to keep the the all the plates spinning.

01:04:48.000 Okay, here's a controversial thing that and I'm of two minds about this, but Gen Z complains about no opportunities and and how you know boomers could buy a house for 12 grand and they have to work their asses off and and they have student debt, and I totally agree with that. 0.98

01:05:04.000 But on the other hand, and I'm like, I grew up middle class, but I did eat out of the garbage and with vice, like we were piling in vice newsprints into a rented minivan until the axles were scraping.

01:05:18.000 My dad was and I were driving to like Guelph, Ontario and unloading these things at four in the morning, you know, for months, for months, for years. 0.98

01:05:28.000 So, and I was a tree planter and a bike messenger, and I'm not bragging about uh what I went through, but part of me is like you guys did get fucked, Gen Z. You did you did get dug into a hole, but you also have to be able to eat poop to get out of that hole. 0.99

01:05:48.000 Like that, you saw that viral Jubilee video with the guy with the Viking haircut and Patrick, what's his name, Bet David was like, I'll give you a job right now, right now.

01:05:58.000 And the guy was like, Well, I'll research your company.

01:06:00.000 And it's like, dude, if you're broke labricks, like do any work clean out porta potties until you can get some money in the bank.

01:06:10.000 So I think the curse of Gen Z is on the one hand, they're correct that they're totally settled with insane debt and have no chance of making a place like this. 1.00

01:06:20.000 But on the other hand, I don't think they have the work ethic to build a place like this.

01:06:25.000 Generally speaking, yeah.

01:06:27.000 Like there's a we we we have Gen Z people here who do have the work ethic, but it's it's you know, it's not nothing's absolute.

01:06:32.000 Like, remember Occupy Wall Street?

01:06:34.000 I wanted to get one of those guys and be like, all right, you're right. 0.99

01:06:37.000 These pigs, they're making all this money. 1.00

01:06:40.000 Let's uh let's live with them. 1.00

01:06:43.000 Uh in Montauk and their giant homes because they're so rich.

01:06:48.000 You gotta get up at 3 a.m. to get down to Wall Street to get the China markets.

01:06:54.000 Can I tell you a story?

01:06:55.000 And then you by the way, let me finish.

01:06:57.000 You gotta go out for lunch, drink bourbon, and wine and dine your clients, then you gotta go back to work, then you gotta schmooze your clients at dinner.

01:07:06.000 Like it's a 15-hour day.

01:07:09.000 Let me let me let me tell you.

01:07:10.000 Okay, I can buy Wall Street.

01:07:11.000 So uh farmland was gifted to the occupiers.

01:07:13.000 Uh many people don't know this.

01:07:15.000 Uh and you know, I was friends with a lot of these people.

01:07:18.000 So um they said, hey, get off the grid, be sustainable, don't contribute to the pollution and the climate change and the rat race.

01:07:27.000 Get away from that.

01:07:28.000 Don't you know that peasants got half the year off?

01:07:30.000 Why don't you come take the farmland and live the way humans are supposed to live? 1.00

01:07:34.000 How long do you think they lasted?

01:07:36.000 I think I know this story.

01:07:37.000 I believe it was like three months.

01:07:39.000 Two weeks.

01:07:40.000 Two weeks.

01:07:41.000 And uh this is a friend of mine.

01:07:43.000 And I I saw her after she got back.

01:07:45.000 And then I was like, oh, you're back.

01:07:47.000 And she was like, Yeah, you know, it wasn't really for me.

01:07:49.000 And I said, why not?

01:07:50.000 And she's like, dude, I had to wake up at 6 a.m. and I went to bed at midnight.

01:07:53.000 It was crazy.

01:07:54.000 You have to work non-stop all day, every single day with no days off.

01:07:58.000 And I was like, Yeah.

01:07:59.000 That's communism, by the way.

01:08:01.000 It is, but it's also just how humans have lived for hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands of years.

01:08:06.000 But uh, no, they much prefer to be living off of welfare and trust funds and like the new episode of White Lotus Piper, what's her name?

01:08:16.000 She's this rich girl, she wants to become a Buddhist, and she tries it out for like one night, and she's like, It's hot, the food sucks.

01:08:24.000 And that who is going that's who's gonna elect Zoran Mam Danny.

01:08:29.000 Is these rich girls that that they have a justified gripe, by the way. 1.00

01:08:33.000 I'm not lying about their gripe.

01:08:35.000 They're right that things are unaffordable. 0.99

01:08:37.000 But when it comes time to fucking fix the problem, it's it sucks. 0.99

01:08:43.000 So I I I think with the the cultural crisis and the fertility crisis. 0.99

01:08:48.000 Uh, by cultural crisis, I mean Gen Z uh having a less than average work ethic. 1.00

01:08:54.000 And again, I'm not ragging on all Gen Z as a ton of Gen Z with tremendous work ethic.

01:08:58.000 A lot of them are becoming more religious, a lot of them more conservative, but as a generation, millennials, and then slightly more Gen Z, miserable worth like I I actually think millennials may be worse than Gen Z. They're they're awful. 0.98

01:09:09.000 If you know what you should do, sorry to interrupt, you've got a Mr. Beast, this problem, and you get someone to wear a beanie and a black t-shirt, someone who's like, fuck fuck Tim Pool, he's making all this money. 1.00

01:09:19.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:09:20.000 He doesn't deserve it. 1.00

01:09:21.000 Sorry for that.

01:09:22.000 F Timpool.

01:09:24.000 And then you sit, you like you have to sit next to him to make it worth it, or people are gonna go, you just went on vacation.

01:09:29.000 And then you have that guy do your exact shifts and go through the news, the marriage effect, the Atlantic, and for like two weeks and watch him and be like, dude, wake up at 7 a.m., we got a rock.

01:09:44.000 Let's go through the news stories and watch them just crumble fall apart.

01:09:50.000 Just you did you watch the PBD versus the anti-capitalist debate that you're and they're and they're like, I shouldn't have to do any work, give me food.

01:09:57.000 Let me research your company, he says.

01:09:59.000 Yeah.

01:10:00.000 He tried to give them all sorts of legs up.

01:10:02.000 He tried to every single person.

01:10:03.000 They're like, No, I don't want to.

01:10:05.000 Well, so this is the this is what I'm saying about the cultural crisis and the population crisis.

01:10:09.000 We simultaneously have with uh Jen Alpha, the oldest being 15, they're gonna be coming in the next couple of years as the low-skill labor, like literally next year, 16-year-olds, 18-year-olds will be should be entering university and getting uh entry-level jobs.

01:10:22.000 They won't be.

01:10:23.000 Not only are there half of them, but their generation is fried from the the iPad Elsa Gate psychotic garbage that was being funneled to their mouths and their babies. 0.99

01:10:33.000 Yep. 0.98

01:10:34.000 You combine that with Gen Z's skill gap. 0.99

01:10:36.000 And I'm gonna tell you this right now.

01:10:38.000 I mean, with Gen Alpha, you had the COVID stuff where they weren't seeing faces, they weren't learning how to read, they can't read now.

01:10:42.000 Teachers are talking about they can't do math and they can't read.

01:10:44.000 With Gen Z. Have y'all seen the video of the fire at the Dunkin' Donuts? 0.98

01:10:49.000 No, no, Duncan Donuts, the toaster goes on fire, and this G I did see that.

01:10:53.000 She takes the back of a plastic broom and wiggles it over the fire.

01:10:56.000 Oh my god.

01:10:57.000 And you're just like, whoa, whoa, what is it?

01:10:59.000 Competence crisis.

01:11:02.000 I saw a video today of a dude that gave the uh cash register, he gave him a $50 bill, and he's like, I just want to break this.

01:11:08.000 And he gives you gave him a 20, a 10, and two fives, and he's like, that's wrong.

01:11:13.000 Yeah, he's like, you know, that's wrong.

01:11:15.000 20 and 10 and two five is five.

01:11:17.000 Yeah.

01:11:18.000 But but he's like, no, that's not, that's not he's like, you owe me more money.

01:11:21.000 And the guy couldn't count it together.

01:11:23.000 It's like how is it that you wouldn't be able to sit there and just two problems at once?

01:11:28.000 It's it's this influx of cousin marrying uh incompetence, and then it's also our own incompetence.

01:11:35.000 Our culture did this.

01:11:36.000 So what happens when you're when you're saying, you know, you you get out of this work ethic.

01:11:40.000 What am I supposed to do when I need this this is this is a big problem that we're facing as a company, there's a natural cycle of every company that has ever existed.

01:11:48.000 Okay.

01:11:49.000 Somebody who gets a job at your company when they're 20 has different needs than when they're 30.

01:11:54.000 So you hire a 20-year-old and he's doing computer basic work and you're paying him, you know, 40 a year or whatever, and he's like, wow, this is I'm making so much money, and I'm talking about years ago.

01:12:02.000 And then 10 years goes by, and they get their standard inflationary raise, maybe they get a promotion.

01:12:07.000 Now they're like, look, I'm getting married, I gotta buy a house.

01:12:09.000 This isn't enough money for me anymore, and I have tons of experience.

01:12:11.000 I need I need a raise.

01:12:12.000 And you say, okay, well, here's the thing.

01:12:13.000 I need someone to run the computers.

01:12:16.000 You need a better job.

01:12:17.000 There's two things we can do.

01:12:18.000 You can go to a company and say, I have 10 years of experience doing these computer things.

01:12:23.000 I'm at a higher level now.

01:12:24.000 Hire me to do this, and I'll hire a new young person to come in and take your computer job because you're beyond it now, right? 1.00

01:12:32.000 Or I can advance you and give you promotion to the next level of the company.

01:12:36.000 If the company doesn't expand and I don't need that next level, that person needs to go work at a different company.

01:12:42.000 That's just a normal thing.

01:12:43.000 I say, bro.

01:12:44.000 Sound like you're speaking from personal experience.

01:12:46.000 This is normal for all businesses everywhere all the time.

01:12:48.000 I hire a 16 16-year-old to sweep the floors.

01:12:48.000 Yes.

01:12:51.000 By the time he's 18, he's plugging things in, he's setting up TVs.

01:12:54.000 By the time he's 18, he's the full facilities manager.

01:12:57.000 And by the time he's 20, and then he's saying, look, I'm gonna get married in a couple years.

01:13:01.000 And I'll be like, you need to go apply somewhere where they have the growth opportunity.

01:13:01.000 I need to buy a house.

01:13:05.000 I had that problem with my my previous producer, Ryan, great guy, but he kept breeding, and I was like, okay, this job is if you really whittled it down, you could get down to 20 hours a week.

01:13:19.000 But he was up to like 40, and I'm like, that's not my problem.

01:13:23.000 But then a great guy, I'm not disparaging him, but uh he kept having kids and kept you know needing a bigger place, which he did.

01:13:31.000 He's with Sam Hyde now, he's doing great, so God bless his cotton socks.

01:13:35.000 But these the what you need to bring in.

01:13:38.000 A lot of Zoomers will go like, I need this much more money. 1.00

01:13:42.000 I got this, these many kids, I need a bigger house.

01:13:45.000 And you're like, yeah, but that's not what the job dictates.

01:13:48.000 I'm not your dad.

01:13:50.000 But so this is my my recommendation.

01:13:51.000 Okay, you've been here for X amount of years.

01:13:54.000 Start looking at other companies that have a job at the next level that pay more.

01:13:59.000 Also, you are what you're worth.

01:14:01.000 Like, but here's the thing.

01:14:02.000 I mean, that's what you need to do, and then I'll hire someone to do sweeping the floors, right?

01:14:08.000 The problem is there is no next generation to sweep the floors, and of the people we do have, they're incompetent.

01:14:15.000 So we are facing a managerial collapse.

01:14:18.000 Like the the You're at Tim Cass right now, or you're being hypothetical.

01:14:22.000 Oh, definitely here.

01:14:23.000 I mean, it is miserable.

01:14:24.000 We just my I just brought my buddy here from uh Chicago.

01:14:27.000 He just started with us and he's gonna be doing management, and he's like C suite level guy.

01:14:30.000 He's like a very capable guy, and so he's gonna be helping us out.

01:14:34.000 But we've had management problems since the get-go.

01:14:36.000 And I know this, and that's my lack of ability.

01:14:39.000 I don't have the ability to do that.

01:14:39.000 No, it's not, Tim.

01:14:40.000 You're you're a native guy.

01:14:42.000 So you need a comp well, they pronounce it comp troller, but it's pronounced controller.

01:14:48.000 You need like a controller, an office manager.

01:14:52.000 That's not your job.

01:14:53.000 Well, so the issue is I do it all.

01:14:56.000 I do everything.

01:14:57.000 That's not good.

01:14:58.000 And we're at the point now where it's like as far as a mom and pop media shop can go.

01:15:04.000 So either we, and I talked about this, you know, a year ago, we go to Venture Capital and we say, we need investment, not because we're broke, we need investment because we need corporate level management to come and straighten things out and fix it.

01:15:16.000 Yeah, but you gotta be careful because look what happened with Vice.

01:15:18.000 I know with A. And that's why we don't do it.

01:15:20.000 Or do you ever see that Tower Records doc?

01:15:22.000 Tower records built on cocaine, by the way.

01:15:25.000 Uh this too shall pass.

01:15:28.000 Uh, everyone at Tower Records used to build shelves and put up for records, and then they built CD shelves and everything. 0.90

01:15:37.000 And they're they're the head of their accounting or whatever, used to like sell, you know, fucking replacement CDs.

01:15:45.000 Um day they decided, you know what, we're so big now, and they survived MP3s, they survived disco, they were a rock company. 0.89

01:15:55.000 Uh, they could not survive hiring CEOs, like the AE chick that took over Vice. 1.00

01:16:02.000 Oh, yeah, you it destroyed them.

01:16:03.000 You do you uh are we allowed to talk about advice?

01:16:06.000 Yeah.

01:16:07.000 So I can tell you what uh I mean, I was only there for about just over a year.

01:16:11.000 Um, but uh of course, you know, when I got hired, it was largely Shane, Saroosh, and and Eddie.

01:16:18.000 Uh it was basically like Eddie directly, and then Shane was a bit passive, but I I basically would like to talk to Shane about stuff periodically.

01:16:25.000 A lot of people there were like, How do you talk to Shane?

01:16:28.000 You know, it's like he's walking down.

01:16:29.000 I'm like, bro, are you talking about like a hundred people working?

01:16:31.000 He's right there.

01:16:31.000 Just go talk to him.

01:16:33.000 Uh so friends of mine who were working uh executive level, you know, I don't I don't want to get anybody in trouble.

01:16:39.000 Said that what happened was there had been a string of individuals who had accused Shane and others of uh sexual harassment or assault or something.

01:16:47.000 And that they had settled.

01:16:49.000 This story came out, I think in the New York Times talking about the settlements and how these women were under NDA, and they were like, release them from their NDAs and stuff like this.

01:16:57.000 When f when Vice took this big investment, starting with Fox, then of course AE, Hearst, which is Viacom.

01:17:03.000 Viacom, etc.

01:17:04.000 Uh uh, what was it?

01:17:05.000 Uh WPP, I believe uh uh wire wire and plastic products or whatever the company is called.

01:17:11.000 That must have been after my time.

01:17:11.000 I don't know.

01:17:12.000 Maybe.

01:17:13.000 So what ends up this is what I was told that with these stories about the the bro club, the patriarchy and the sexual harassment, assaults, etc.

01:17:25.000 Vice was gonna get hurt.

01:17:26.000 And the people who invested, these big companies didn't want to see their investments get knocked down.

01:17:32.000 So what happened is the investors, Disney basically, went to Vice and said, You will be a feminist brand and you will embrace the left and what they're saying.

01:17:42.000 Otherwise, we're gonna lose all our money because you guys are looked at as right winger, you know, bro, patriarchy frat boys, and they went, sure, whatever you say.

01:17:52.000 Brought in a female CEO, shifted the narrative of the company from edgy punk rock into feminism. 1.00

01:17:58.000 With there was a really great there's a really great example.

01:18:00.000 So I was talking to one of the producers at Vice about uh there's an article and it said, This horrifying app will show you any woman topless.

01:18:08.000 And what the app did was you took a picture of a woman, and then it would it would automatically generate, and this is this is eight years ago, what like a it would it would remove her shirt and then put a different image of a topless woman.

01:18:19.000 And I'll saw this producer and I said, You know where the company went wrong?

01:18:22.000 Do you know what the headline of that article would have been in 2008?

01:18:26.000 This amazing app will show you any woman topless.

01:18:29.000 And then you guys decided to be high school hall monitors, angry about everything, and people stopped reading and stopped watching.

01:18:38.000 Especially young people, yeah.

01:18:39.000 Yeah, they're like, stop telling me what to do and stop yelling at me.

01:18:42.000 I I uh I resent that whole culture bro culture accusation because Vice was built on like the clash.

01:18:49.000 It was built on punk rock.

01:18:51.000 And if you talk to any girl who worked there in the 90s or early aughts, they'll say it was the funnest place ever.

01:18:58.000 Like we would go out with these girls and party.

01:19:01.000 There was not fucking the interns thing. 1.00

01:19:03.000 That was like a finance bro thing. 0.82

01:19:05.000 We were friends with the interns.

01:19:08.000 Now, what I've heard learned later is, or what I've been told later, is that Shane was um regularly.

01:19:17.000 This is just allegedly, I don't want to violate any uh NDAs, but it was Reggie regularly sexually assaulting women under my nose.

01:19:26.000 Uh and uh I think that was sort of leaked into bro culture somehow.

01:19:34.000 And I think one possibility that I've been told is that he said, All right, the the hammer's about to come down on me hard for all of this sexual assault. 0.90

01:19:43.000 So I'm gonna have AE chick take over. 1.00

01:19:47.000 So when the the hammer comes down, I'm like, I'm not even the guy anymore.

01:19:51.000 Yep.

01:19:51.000 It's what's her name?

01:19:52.000 What is her name again?

01:19:53.000 Dubik or something.

01:19:56.000 But she she I think she left too.

01:19:57.000 I mean, the company's basically dead.

01:19:58.000 I I met, well, here's what I heard about the company.

01:20:00.000 I'll get that.

01:20:00.000 So I heard I met these these moms, and they were like, Yeah, we used to make fun of her.

01:20:06.000 We used to like the these moms at a daycare and I don't know, Red Hook or something. 0.99

01:20:11.000 She was known as so retarded that uh they would be friends with her like as a joke to get her quote. 1.00

01:20:17.000 She's known as the dumb mom at the drop off. 1.00

01:20:20.000 But I I did hear with Vice post all of this shit that um some Australian dude bought it for like 25 million dollars. 1.00

01:20:31.000 When uh two years ago, a year ago. 0.99

01:20:35.000 What from seven billion dollars?

01:20:37.000 Yeah.

01:20:38.000 And his he keeps it alive right now.

01:20:40.000 This is just what I've heard.

01:20:41.000 He keeps it alive right now with like three issues a year with the staff of like this, like five.

01:20:49.000 And uh they have a website that's sort of the same.

01:20:53.000 And I think his goal is to sell it for like 26 million, which is good.

01:20:58.000 You made a million bucks, but it's no seven billion, three hundred billion.

01:21:04.000 Was it ever really?

01:21:05.000 No.

01:21:06.000 It was always a balloon.

01:21:06.000 Right.

01:21:07.000 Yep.

01:21:08.000 That's what all the employees thought.

01:21:09.000 They thought it was a pump and dump.

01:21:11.000 That the uh the and again, I'm not um this.

01:21:14.000 It was always in it was a balloon in fear of a pin.

01:21:16.000 So most of the employees that I knew when I was there, and and after I left, like I was obviously I'm still friends with a lot of these people, even I still know some of them today.

01:21:25.000 Uh, they were basically saying Shane is doing everything can to make it seem like we're bigger than we are to pump up the value and get the valuation really, really big.

01:21:34.000 And so everybody was just like, it's uh like a private pump and dump.

01:21:38.000 Make it the media darling, tell everybody where the future, raise a bunch of money, then liquidate some of your your equity in the company to make yourself rich, and then that was that was what people were were saying about it.

01:21:49.000 When we were back in Montreal, he would we'd be doing coke and getting wasted, and he would he put his lips like on my ear, and he'd be like, We're gonna be so rich.

01:22:00.000 Well, he wasn't wrong.

01:22:01.000 We are gonna and and I was like, okay, but it's Friday night.

01:22:05.000 We worked our asses off all week.

01:22:07.000 Let's relax.

01:22:08.000 Let's talk to girls. 1.00

01:22:09.000 Let's enjoy ourselves.

01:22:11.000 We're gonna be so rich.

01:22:13.000 And but what what was happening?

01:22:15.000 This was in Montreal, you said?

01:22:17.000 Yeah, this is previous right.

01:22:19.000 What was what was happening in Montreal where you're making tons of money?

01:22:22.000 We weren't.

01:22:23.000 We were we were barely, we lived in the office.

01:22:26.000 But Shane, and I've known him since I was 12.

01:22:29.000 He just had this ability to like shuffle, man. 0.66

01:22:32.000 He's just a hustler.

01:22:34.000 And yeah, you know, there's a weird thing about about Gen X. What are you?

01:22:37.000 You're a millennial.

01:22:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:22:39.000 There's a weird thing about Gen X where salesmen are the worst biggest losers in the world. 0.99

01:22:44.000 They're disgusting and they and I don't know why that is. 0.99

01:22:48.000 I respect salesmen. 0.97

01:22:49.000 They pay my bills, they put a roof over my head.

01:22:52.000 The reason that I have money in the bank, I never disparaged salesmen.

01:22:56.000 I've tried it, I cannot do it, man.

01:22:58.000 It's like modern dance.

01:23:00.000 Like I don't know how they do it. 0.98

01:23:03.000 Uh that's modern dance is that analogy because modern dance is obviously retarded. 0.98

01:23:07.000 It's like uh tap dancing.

01:23:09.000 Like, I don't get I can't do that.

01:23:11.000 And Shane unfortunately grew up in a culture where he was the greatest salesman of all time.

01:23:17.000 If he was born in the 50s, it'd be madman Don Draper, he'd be a god.

01:23:22.000 60s, but then something with our generation, my generation, I should say, with used car salesman where selling things was like disgusting and lying.

01:23:32.000 So I think he was resented that he was the sales guy.

01:23:35.000 So he's like, I'm gonna get rid of Gavin because he's a content guy.

01:23:38.000 I'll be the sale I'll be the content guy.

01:23:41.000 And then I think after a few years he went, my heart's not in this.

01:23:44.000 I don't know.

01:23:45.000 It's it's it's sad because I I remember there was uh around the time I was there, I think he posted a picture of you, Saru uh you, him and Saroosh, and it's like you guys were at a party or something, and I'm like, that's just that's so sad, man.

01:23:56.000 You guys were like best friends, start a company together, and then it like the band broke up, you know.

01:24:00.000 Well, I I fell in love with my girlfriend and I proposed to her, and that was the end of the triumvirate.

01:24:06.000 And that's always a problem with with work.

01:24:09.000 That's why the Koreans are so smart to go at Right, don't drink, don't do drugs here.

01:24:16.000 No, no, no.

01:24:17.000 No, the opposite. 0.99

01:24:18.000 The Koreans and the Japanese, they go and get shit hammered on Friday night, and they rebond. 1.00

01:24:24.000 But we were like, we'd go on vacation together, we bought a house together, and then I fell in love with this this squaw, and I I went that way, and then they were like, Well, fuck you. 1.00

01:24:34.000 F you I well, so yeah, how did that how did it come to be? 0.96

01:24:36.000 What's the s short version of how you ended up leaving Vice?

01:24:39.000 Oh my god, I've never told this story before, but I've had some beers.

01:24:43.000 It was the worst experience of my entire life.

01:24:46.000 Well, no, I've had my my my baby, my son, my youngest boy, he got an infection in his thigh and had to have like a surgery.

01:24:55.000 That was the worst.

01:24:56.000 But this is up there.

01:24:58.000 So my thing with uh Vice was always open floor plan.

01:25:02.000 If if someone's on the phone, you can hear them.

01:25:04.000 Now I do want animosity with uh sales and editorial, so there are different parts of the office, but there's no secrets.

01:25:12.000 And corporate doesn't have their own offices.

01:25:15.000 I got this from Mars Bar, Frank Mars.

01:25:18.000 He doesn't have his own office.

01:25:19.000 He would he would just work with he drove a Honda Civic and he was with the the people.

01:25:24.000 So that was always the business plan.

01:25:26.000 And I think Shane and Saroosh reluctantly just followed that because like he seems Really into it, whatever.

01:25:31.000 When I I believe right before I got there, that's how it was.

01:25:34.000 And uh Shane's desk was in the room with like everybody else.

01:25:38.000 Oh, maybe they changed it because it's not when Fox were 2010.

01:25:41.000 I was out at 2008.

01:25:43.000 13.

01:25:43.000 Okay, so this I'm talking about is like 2007, seven or six.

01:25:47.000 When I got in in 2013, the first time they showed me, this is a few months before I got hired.

01:25:52.000 They showed me the office.

01:25:53.000 Shane's desk was just in a big row of tables next to everybody else.

01:25:56.000 No way.

01:25:57.000 But then the Murdoch money came in and they built new offices.

01:26:00.000 And then I've got to do it.

01:26:01.000 Okay, so this thing I'm talking about happened, and then it was reversed, and then it happened again.

01:26:06.000 So just tell what so what happened?

01:26:08.000 What happened?

01:26:08.000 So I came, we were fighting about something.

01:26:11.000 It was uh some bullshit. 0.99

01:26:14.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:26:15.000 And uh that's another story.

01:26:17.000 But uh I come into the office, and uh I was mad at them for this thing where they got a lawyers involved.

01:26:24.000 I'll tell that story in a bit.

01:26:25.000 But um, I I come in and they've built like this glass office that's about half the size of this room.

01:26:32.000 The bear room.

01:26:33.000 Yeah, with with tables in it.

01:26:35.000 And I'm like, what's going on?

01:26:36.000 We now have a corporate room.

01:26:38.000 And uh I go, where's my desk?

01:26:41.000 And they go, Oh, there's no room.

01:26:43.000 It's like there's Saul, the manager, there's Sarush, Shane, and me, and there's no room for you.

01:26:49.000 And I I started having a panic attack, and I I was like sweating.

01:26:53.000 I went outside.

01:26:54.000 I I called my dad for some reason.

01:26:56.000 I was like, Dad, there's no room for my desk.

01:26:59.000 And my dad is like very, he's like grew up poor and he's very risk-averse.

01:27:02.000 He's like, just tell them you're sorry.

01:27:05.000 Say it's okay, my boy.

01:27:07.000 Get your desk in that room, my boy.

01:27:12.000 Uh that was we never recovered from that.

01:27:14.000 I'd like I I said to Shane, I go, like, let's drink a bottle of whiskey.

01:27:18.000 Again, I've known this guy since I was 12.

01:27:21.000 I was like 30 at that point.

01:27:23.000 And I go, let's just finish a bottle of whiskey and get it all out.

01:27:27.000 And I realized when we did that, he it took him like 12 days to say yes.

01:27:32.000 We did that.

01:27:33.000 I was the only one sipping the bottle.

01:27:35.000 So I think I drank an entire bottle of whiskey.

01:27:38.000 And he was like pretending to drink it or having a water.

01:27:42.000 I went careing down the stairs to his apartment.

01:27:44.000 I was like, I think I broke my neck that night and self-repaired or something. 0.99

01:27:49.000 No, I fucked myself up going down the stage. 0.98

01:27:52.000 Was that where he was basically saying we're cutting you out or what? 0.98

01:27:55.000 Oh, dude, we're really opening a Pandora's box here.

01:27:58.000 I and I got a piss.

01:27:59.000 So I think what happened was his family, like when he was a young man, his parents got divorced.

01:28:07.000 I I gotta go piss.

01:28:08.000 All right, I'll pat her.

01:28:09.000 But you go run it. 0.98

01:28:11.000 But but basically, Shane is one of these people, and I'm similar, where once we'd like draw the line, once it's over, it's fucking over. 0.97

01:28:19.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:28:19.000 Like you could save my daughter drowning. 0.98

01:28:22.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:28:22.000 Give me my daughter back. 1.00

01:28:23.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

01:28:24.000 All right, part two coming soon after Gavin comes back from the bathroom. 0.99

01:28:27.000 So uh I was only there for about just like a little bit over a year.

01:28:31.000 And uh at the time, it was really interesting.

01:28:35.000 They they're they were producing these documentaries that were massive.

01:28:37.000 Every I if you guys remember them.

01:28:39.000 And it was edgy and it was it was it was cool, like the bulletproof clothing one where they basically went and met a guy and he wore a trench coat and they shot it, or the scopolamine one where they did nothing.

01:28:47.000 They literally just bought it and flushed on the toilet, but everybody wanted to watch it.

01:28:50.000 It was just like cool new age journalism, and I remember the reporters going to crazy places and doing like drugs or experimenting or exploring different drugs in North Korea.

01:28:59.000 Suicide Forest in Japan.

01:29:00.000 All this crazy I uh I field produced the North Korea Diaries documentary uh for Vice.

01:29:05.000 Let me see if I can find that one.

01:29:07.000 North Korea Diaries Vice.

01:29:09.000 Uh I didn't go to North Korea.

01:29:11.000 Uh I went to New Zealand.

01:29:12.000 And this one's got six million views.

01:29:14.000 It's kind of wild.

01:29:15.000 I was I was field field uh field producer uh on this one.

01:29:18.000 So I went and actually did the interview with the people who went to North Korea.

01:29:21.000 It was actually in New Zealand.

01:29:23.000 And uh the the the issue that I had at the company, so I'll just wrap mine up because it gavens back, is when I joined them.

01:29:30.000 I was like having the launch of my career.

01:29:32.000 I was featured in Time Magazine, I got a bunch of these accolades.

01:29:34.000 They I was featured in uh Times uh Time Person of the Year was the protester, and I was one of six features.

01:29:40.000 So they were like the protester won, and here's here are features, and I was one of them.

01:29:44.000 And then they featured me as one of their most influential like social media personalities in February, and so I was getting all this attention.

01:29:49.000 GQ did like a six-page feature on me.

01:29:51.000 So I went to Vice, I went to Al Jazeera, I went to Google, basically pitched them all and said, like, here's who I am, here's what I'm doing.

01:29:58.000 But Vice was the the you know, the Shining City on the Hill, right?

01:30:01.000 Everybody wanted to work there.

01:30:03.000 So after like six months of negotiating, I said, Listen, I do this live thing, I do the social media thing.

01:30:07.000 You guys don't do it.

01:30:08.000 I do field reporting.

01:30:09.000 You guys don't do it.

01:30:10.000 You bring me in and have me do this, like the field reporting for the North Korea stuff and Kim.com, and I'll do the live stuff for you.

01:30:18.000 And then together you guys will help build me up, and then I'll give you guys what I have.

01:30:22.000 And then after a year, they weren't getting me the other end of the bargain.

01:30:22.000 And they agreed.

01:30:26.000 So I had done a handful of documentaries, but it was heavy lifting.

01:30:30.000 And uh let's just say they got me about 70% of the way there, so I was relatively happy.

01:30:35.000 But the third time I went and said, Hey guys, this is not enough.

01:30:38.000 This is not what I was asking for.

01:30:39.000 You're you're only 70%.

01:30:41.000 First response from Shane was Tim, we're gonna give you more money.

01:30:44.000 And I say it's a start.

01:30:44.000 How does that sound?

01:30:45.000 But the money isn't the issue.

01:30:46.000 The issue is we're not producing enough and doing enough on the ground.

01:30:49.000 So eventually I just I got an offer and I ended up quitting.

01:30:52.000 And they they just didn't deliver on their end of the bargain.

01:30:55.000 So that's ended up why I ended up leaving.

01:30:57.000 That being said, shortly after the some of the people that I that I knew who had gotten jobs, I instantly started seeing the corporatization and the wokeation.

01:31:07.000 And uh within a couple years of of me having left, reporters at Vice who I had worked with were telling me to stop reporting and not to travel the world and cover the the stories that I'd been covering before because it would be offensive or because it would help Donald Trump or something.

01:31:22.000 And that's what happened to the company.

01:31:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:24.000 So I'm like, I guess I got at the right time. 0.98

01:31:25.000 I think they also got infiltrated with trannies who wanted sex changes. 1.00

01:31:30.000 So they go, let's unionize. 0.99

01:31:32.000 Part of unionization is we want free Medicare.

01:31:36.000 Okay, that sounds reasonable.

01:31:37.000 If you get a big sore in your at one, you get antibiotics.

01:31:42.000 Um, get an ingrown hair or whatever. 0.89

01:31:44.000 I I and then it's like, no, I want to reverse my genitalia for 160 grand. 0.74

01:31:51.000 Well, that's that's a tangent. 0.93

01:31:55.000 Let's uh so let's go back.

01:31:56.000 I mean, can you can you explain the the full the details of like how you left Vice then?

01:32:01.000 So you're like you're stumbling down the stairs, you drank a bunch of whiskey.

01:32:04.000 Yeah, that was me trying to fix things.

01:32:06.000 That was me asking what happened with his secretary, and uh there was a lot of weirdness there.

01:32:13.000 Um there's never one true catalyst with this kind of thing, right?

01:32:18.000 It's sort of like divorce.

01:32:20.000 So it was never like I did this or he said that, but there was me getting married in the triamvirate was failing.

01:32:27.000 I wasn't with them anymore.

01:32:29.000 But uh there was one, I went to an American Renaissance conference, and David Duke was there.

01:32:35.000 And you know, this is my job.

01:32:37.000 I gotta go to weird stuff.

01:32:39.000 And this is before selfies, but I so people believed you when you said stuff.

01:32:44.000 So I go to the bar at the conference, and David Duke was there.

01:32:49.000 They all hated him.

01:32:50.000 They they they kicked him out, I believe.

01:32:52.000 But as a joke, I was like, I said, I remember I said it to Kenny Hotz of Kenny versus Benny, and I said it to this other guy, Trevor, and someone else, and I go, Hey, and with my best friend David Duke at the bar, and it's it's a weird thing to say now because no one would would believe you, but back then they're like, what the hell?

01:33:10.000 So one of my friends was like, Stub.

01:33:14.000 Kenny Hotz thought it was hilarious.

01:33:16.000 My wife was freaked out.

01:33:18.000 I think she was my girlfriend then, and she was like, What are you doing?

01:33:20.000 You need to be stopped.

01:33:22.000 You're out of control.

01:33:24.000 And uh I go, it's called funny.

01:33:26.000 We're not getting married.

01:33:28.000 Um, so they wrote me this big like legal document saying if you ever do anything like that again, you're done.

01:33:36.000 And uh we obviously it always been handshake guys.

01:33:39.000 I still am a handshake guy.

01:33:40.000 I manage a boxer, I'm not registered as his manager, we're just uh handshake guys.

01:33:46.000 Um so I was really mad at them for um not uh discussing it and making it a contract that said if you ever do anything as terrible as that ever again, we're gonna forcefully sell your shares.

01:34:00.000 So I couldn't look at them for like five days.

01:34:03.000 I worked from home for five days, and then uh I was doing bumps with my Negro friend Derek in the bathroom at a party at a bar party, and Shane tried to come in, and uh Derek was like, Shane's trying to get in, and I was like, uh and I pushed the door closed.

01:34:22.000 That was a hundred million dollar push, where Shane in his mind was just like shh, he's dead to me.

01:34:32.000 So the drinking the bottle of whiskey was after that.

01:34:35.000 Yeah.

01:34:35.000 But when I pushed that door closed, he was like, You're dead to me.

01:34:39.000 And I think it's because his childhood, my dad was actually his dad's boss. 0.99

01:34:45.000 And there was this bizarre project in the Caribbean where Computing Devices Canada was doing a contract, and there's like black pussy everywhere, and there's there's these boomers. 1.00

01:34:59.000 Boomers were really into infidelity, right? 1.00

01:35:01.000 Key parties and everything. 1.00

01:35:02.000 So they were like, uh, I think his dad was like, he sees all this black pussy, and he's like, hey, uh Glenda, like to his wife, let's have an open relationship. 1.00

01:35:02.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:35:13.000 And she's a farm girl from like southwestern Ontario, so she's like, okay, whatever that is. 1.00

01:35:19.000 So she starts boning like black tennis instructors with giant dreads who were like ripping her pussy to shreds, and uh, he can't get laid to save his life. 1.00

01:35:30.000 So they get divorced. 0.99

01:35:32.000 She uh she remarries some super nice, awesome guy who's like a good boy, like Hank Hill from King of the Hill with the mustache, and Shane hates him, and they get into a fight, and he's like, I'm the boss of this house now. 1.00

01:35:46.000 And Shane's like, fuck you. 1.00

01:35:48.000 So he moves in with his dad. 1.00

01:35:49.000 His dad was like on a revenge tear, as far as I'm concerned, for the the bitches who fucking suck too much cocks. 1.00

01:35:58.000 Oh shit, sorry. 1.00

01:35:59.000 You gotta turn the volume down a little bit. 1.00

01:36:02.000 Um she wasn't on a sex bender, she was a normal lady. 1.00

01:36:07.000 She found a new man, she found Hank Hill.

01:36:10.000 But he, the dad, went on this bender.

01:36:13.000 He he f'd all my mom's friends and ruined their lives, like ripped them off. 0.99

01:36:18.000 He was a terrible man. 0.97

01:36:20.000 And I think Shane grew up like just seeing women as second-class citizens, but also having this like line in the sand, like if you F me over, you're dead to me.

01:36:30.000 How uh how did you guys make so much money?

01:36:33.000 Like in the early days before like that they cashed you out for 10 million, you said?

01:36:36.000 Shane was just unbelievable at CEO whispering.

01:36:42.000 One thing like your guess is as good as mine. 0.91

01:36:44.000 But one theory I have is CEOs are all nerds and losers, and we were like the cool guys. 0.95

01:36:50.000 He would call the CEOs on Saturdays and be like, hey man, we're going to this like party in Austin by the water, and there's gonna be a bunch of chicks there. 0.93

01:37:00.000 If and the CEO is like, but you're not benefiting from this meeting, and they'd come down and they're like little Lululemon shorts, and they were thrilled that Shane put them on the map.

01:37:11.000 Yeah, got to hang out with the cool kids.

01:37:13.000 You got to hang out with the cool kids.

01:37:14.000 Yeah, that's that's just a guess.

01:37:15.000 But I mean, like you guys were selling ads, there was like there were sales, there were deals.

01:37:21.000 Well, this is crazy.

01:37:23.000 So back in the early days, um, most of our clients were record labels, and the people who ran record labels, as far as ad sales go, were women, and they would want sex for ads. 0.98

01:37:41.000 This is the thing.

01:37:43.000 Women talk about uh me too and everything. 1.00

01:37:46.000 No one abuses power more than boomer women, older women, short-haired women, short-haired women, weird cut. 1.00

01:37:55.000 Yeah, they have the little pixie cut, and they have this exact body, my body, with like weird sideways stits. 0.92

01:38:02.000 And Shane himself used to say, We ate our way to the top.

01:38:06.000 He would bone all these sales girls, girls, sales moms, and then they would buy ads, and they would buy ads.

01:38:14.000 Wow.

01:38:15.000 And we had a we had a graphic design firm that would do most of our ads called Heliozilla in Toronto, and I swear I'll die on this.

01:38:24.000 I think one of the guys at Heliozilla invented the term cougar.

01:38:29.000 Really?

01:38:30.000 Because he was like, because he did it too.

01:38:32.000 We both, but they all did it.

01:38:34.000 We all did it.

01:38:35.000 They would secret of the 90s.

01:38:36.000 They were like cougars, they'd ravage you.

01:38:39.000 Like, you guys are like late 20s, early 30s, and you're going to these four-year-old women being like Dude, mid-20s. 0.52

01:38:46.000 I didn't bone any of them.

01:38:48.000 It was his, it was Shane's job.

01:38:49.000 But he told me this story once.

01:38:51.000 It still makes I have this like PTSD. 1.00

01:38:53.000 If one ever goes like this to me, I'll murder them. 1.00

01:38:57.000 Because he was having dinner with this woman. 0.99

01:38:59.000 She shows up in a limousine, pixie cut, of course. 1.00

01:39:02.000 He's like, here we go.

01:39:04.000 He goes downstairs, they go have dinner, and during the dinner she's eating, or I don't know, or shrimp that's paid for by Universal.

01:39:12.000 And she goes like this.

01:39:15.000 To you?

01:39:16.000 No, to him.

01:39:17.000 You told me the story later.

01:39:17.000 Oh.

01:39:18.000 And that means put your hand in mine.

01:39:21.000 Oh man. 0.52

01:39:22.000 Like I'd rather be shot in the arm than swim and go.

01:39:26.000 So he has to like, as he's eating his shrimp, put his hand in hers, and she just like squeezes it.

01:39:34.000 And uh now you have 10 million dollars from that deal, and he made you know how many tens of millions?

01:39:40.000 Probably 200 million.

01:39:41.000 I think he spent 100 million on blackjack.

01:39:44.000 No, I've heard those stories.

01:39:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:39:45.000 Yeah, so there was uh one one moment, I think it was when I was there that uh there was a news story was written about how he won 300 grand gambling.

01:39:52.000 Yeah, and everyone was like, There's a picture of him with all this money, and I was like, guys, how much did he spend?

01:39:56.000 Exactly.

01:39:57.000 Dude, if you made 300 grand gambling, uh playing blackjack, you lost three million.

01:40:02.000 It's just math.

01:40:04.000 Someone won three bucks gambling, you can't.

01:40:06.000 Now hold on.

01:40:06.000 I got a six bucks.

01:40:07.000 Okay, I swear.

01:40:08.000 Dude, David Cho was like that when he got his hundred million from Facebook.

01:40:13.000 He would have his buddy go to different blackjack tables and feel the vibe.

01:40:19.000 Jeez.

01:40:19.000 And then he would come back and go, that's a winning table.

01:40:22.000 And David Cho swears to this day that it worked, and he made tens of millions of dollars.

01:40:27.000 No, you didn't sure.

01:40:29.000 You forgot the money you've effing lost.

01:40:32.000 Well, that's that's a thing.

01:40:32.000 Yeah.

01:40:34.000 They he did make tens of millions of dollars.

01:40:35.000 He just lost tens of millions more.

01:40:37.000 Yes.

01:40:38.000 You know, it's it's called and you know what? 0.98

01:40:40.000 With sales guys, um, selective memory is very effective because they go, No, your product sucks, no, your product sucks, no and when people say that to me, I'm like, F you, my product rules. 0.86

01:40:51.000 You want to fight you know what the secret to sales is? 0.93

01:40:53.000 Uh you just try to you just imitate the other person.

01:40:56.000 Well, you can also take no for an answer.

01:40:58.000 I can't take no for an answer.

01:41:01.000 Salespeople.

01:41:03.000 Salespeople can take it.

01:41:04.000 I would I would I would describe it like this.

01:41:06.000 Uh, in in sales, you've got a very sharp edge of the middle ground.

01:41:11.000 You have to know when you're wasting your time and know when not to say no.

01:41:16.000 So uh I used to do fundraising for nonprofits.

01:41:20.000 Okay.

01:41:21.000 I would never talk to somebody who I could just look at and know was not gonna donate to me.

01:41:24.000 And so me and my friends, we're the top fundraisers in the nation for like Greenpeace.

01:41:28.000 I think I was like number five in the nation for Greenpeace.

01:41:30.000 And it's not necessarily just that I'm a good salesman, that was a component of it, but it was I knew who not to talk to.

01:41:37.000 So it's not about whether you take no for an answer.

01:41:39.000 If I if I see somebody and I know they're a donor, I won't take no for an answer.

01:41:43.000 Because I I I can already tell that they're gonna donate.

01:41:45.000 And if they're not, I'm saying something wrong.

01:41:47.000 So I gotta figure out what to say and how to say it.

01:41:49.000 Okay, so that was probably Shane's skill.

01:41:51.000 Yep.

01:41:51.000 And I just I don't I don't have that DNA.

01:41:54.000 You go to a meeting with someone, and you can just see it in their face and their body, and before you even make the pitch, you go, I can tell it's a waste of time.

01:42:00.000 Have a nice day, and you leave.

01:42:01.000 And you don't waste any time with people who aren't gonna be doing deals with you.

01:42:04.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats and Rumble Rants, my friends.

01:42:08.000 Uh so smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, and of course, no tax on super chats anymore.

01:42:14.000 Up to $25,000.

01:42:15.000 So, you know, there you go.

01:42:17.000 It's good news.

01:42:17.000 Thanks, President Trump.

01:42:18.000 Uh, we're gonna have that uncensored show coming up for you in 20 minutes.

01:42:22.000 Not that this already wasn't pretty uh close to it or over the line anyway.

01:42:26.000 It was fun.

01:42:26.000 We'll get those F words.

01:42:28.000 But uh, we're gonna read what you guys have to say, and uh join our Discord server at Timcast.com.

01:42:34.000 Uh, you got to heard uh you got to hear Gavin beg me to quit and uh me explain why I wouldn't.

01:42:40.000 So if you think I should not quit, then the most important thing in the world is that you guys join us at Timcast.com in the Discord server because uh I do have a kid and we're having we're we're we're already planning when we're having our next kid.

01:42:51.000 We're like a kid on the way too.

01:42:53.000 That was got one on the way. 0.89

01:42:54.000 And so uh congrats.

01:42:56.000 Thank you very much.

01:42:57.000 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say it like this.

01:42:59.000 Um, when I get when after the show wraps, it's gonna be about 1050 or whatever.

01:43:03.000 My wife and the baby are already sleeping.

01:43:05.000 I can't wake him up.

01:43:06.000 So I'm gonna go to bed, I'm gonna see him in the morning before work.

01:43:09.000 I'm gonna come in, work till about two or three, then I'm gonna go eat with them briefly, and then come back to work.

01:43:14.000 And that's right.

01:43:16.000 Okay, it's not it's not sustainable.

01:43:17.000 It's not so uh I need you to uh support the work we do if you do, and we're gonna try and figure out how to uh make it all sustainable and keep the community going when uh I don't end up in the ER again.

01:43:29.000 I think that's The other reality that I think everyone should should consider.

01:43:32.000 I ended up in the hospital and had to go to urgent care a week after that because I was still pretty messed up.

01:43:38.000 There is a reality to be turning 40 in I think seven months.

01:43:42.000 What month is it?

01:43:42.000 I don't know, five months.

01:43:43.000 I don't know.

01:43:44.000 What do we got?

01:43:45.000 We got three, six, seven.

01:43:46.000 About seven, six, seven months.

01:43:46.000 Yeah.

01:43:48.000 I'll be 40 years old.

01:43:49.000 And uh when I first started doing all of this in my late 20s, my recovery time was less than a day.

01:43:56.000 I could I could go out and skate for eight hours and and get a heart rate over 200 and be drenched in sweat and do it every single day nonstop.

01:44:05.000 I was in New York during Occupy, and I'd be we I I once we went from the financial district to the Bronx and back in one day during these protests, and it's just what you did.

01:44:13.000 And now I'm almost 40, and I'm like, I can do that once a week, maybe.

01:44:17.000 So the challenge is, and this is in all seriousness.

01:44:20.000 Yeah, I'm starting to realize that 16-hour days my recovery time.

01:44:24.000 My goal is to get you down in two hours.

01:44:26.000 I don't want anyone fired.

01:44:27.000 So don't get weird around me, by the way.

01:44:29.000 Don't knife me on the but funnel the content down at two hours and one spot.

01:44:35.000 We're figuring out.

01:44:37.000 We're figuring it out.

01:44:38.000 Um we're uh working, we're figuring it out.

01:44:41.000 But uh in the meantime, support the community and help us create something that will create a permanent foundation, and uh, we're gonna read your chance.

01:44:48.000 Let's go.

01:44:48.000 We got uh Shane H Wilder says, Hey Tim and Phil.

01:44:51.000 Tim, Phil and I uh I'm sorry, hey Tim, Phil and I discussed gathering up Du Boys for a new crusade, liberating the UK and making our way to Jerusalem. 0.97

01:44:58.000 I know Tate and Surge would be down, but are you in?

01:45:01.000 I dude, I would love to conquer the United United Kingdom.

01:45:05.000 And you know, you know, I tweeted that, and then Carl Benjamin said Americans need to know how unpopular is when they say this.

01:45:09.000 He said the same thing to me.

01:45:11.000 I said, unpopular to who?

01:45:14.000 To the English?

01:45:16.000 Well, duh, we want to conquer you. 0.90

01:45:18.000 Carl's one of the good ones, though.

01:45:19.000 I said, we'll do his liberators.

01:45:21.000 My point was the UK is already being conquered.

01:45:24.000 I'm gonna be at Tommy's thing next week.

01:45:26.000 Yeah, on the 13th.

01:45:27.000 That's awesome, man.

01:45:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:29.000 Super cool.

01:45:29.000 And Tommy, I talked to him today, and he said, We're winning.

01:45:32.000 And I think I think it's true.

01:45:34.000 We'll we'll talk about Floyd Gate in the members only portion of the show, which uh we can show a lot more of the content that's going on.

01:45:41.000 This is pretty crazy that I'm even saying this.

01:45:42.000 I don't think I have to anymore.

01:45:44.000 On Instagram, there are dozens, hundreds, thousands of channels that mass produce videos that are overtly racist humor.

01:45:54.000 Like uh, there was one video where it was a black guy with a baby, and he's like, Hey, my son's gonna say his first words.

01:46:00.000 I'm so excited.

01:46:01.000 And the baby goes, Y'all take EBT.

01:46:04.000 There's just endless amounts of videos like this, and I'm like, the pendulum has swung so hard in the other direction that Instagram is not even taking any action against these channels.

01:46:13.000 So we'll we'll we'll talk about that, but let's read more your more your uh your chats.

01:46:17.000 All right.

01:46:18.000 Fitzy says, Does Tim support a law that protects the bird, which is the bald eagle?

01:46:24.000 Like, should people be allowed, should the bald eagle be protected?

01:46:29.000 Yeah, what is it?

01:46:30.000 Oh, it's it's a you thing.

01:46:31.000 Yeah.

01:46:31.000 Oh, okay.

01:46:32.000 So Ben Crump uh explained it was like uh the new Al Sharpton.

01:46:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:46:38.000 He explained to George Floyd's brother.

01:46:41.000 Um, I know you're meeting Trump, and can you say to him?

01:46:45.000 We have the bald eagle on the endangered list, but not the black man. 1.00

01:46:52.000 Why is that?

01:46:53.000 That was his assignment.

01:46:55.000 And so George Floyd comes back from meeting Trump, and he's like not George Floyd, Ben Crump.

01:46:59.000 Uh no, Felonious Floyd.

01:47:02.000 Felonius Floyd, his brother.

01:47:04.000 By the way, his mother's name is Larcinia.

01:47:07.000 Larcy and felony are in his fans.

01:47:09.000 His name's Felone.

01:47:10.000 Felonious Floyd.

01:47:13.000 That's the real name.

01:47:14.000 It's a real name.

01:47:15.000 Phil, like P H I L, like Phil, but Philonious.

01:47:19.000 So he goes, he was a great guy.

01:47:22.000 He's awesome.

01:47:22.000 We had beards.

01:47:23.000 And then Ben Crump is like, say the eagle thing.

01:47:27.000 And he goes, Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:47:29.000 Anyway, uh, so the bird, which is the bald eagle, uh, is on a lit.

01:47:35.000 And we became obsessed with the bird, which is the bald eagle.

01:47:38.000 Which is the bald eagle.

01:47:39.000 So we have like bald eagle pins, and it's I have a bald eagle tattoo.

01:47:43.000 Some yeah, there he is.

01:47:45.000 It's the thing.

01:47:46.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:47.000 Uh, I do love it when they say things like this.

01:47:49.000 Like, did you know that guns uh guns have more rights than women? 1.00

01:47:53.000 Oh it's like we should we we we're not even equal as guns, and then everyone goes, so you want to be banned from polling locations?

01:47:57.000 We can I'm in a license to can't go to New York.

01:48:04.000 All right, let's grab some more.

01:48:05.000 What do we got here?

01:48:06.000 Jay Dirt Biker says, eff at legalize medical cocaine.

01:48:09.000 And also check out the Arney States show live on Rumble every weekday morning from 10 a.m. to 1 PM.

01:48:14.000 Oh, there you go.

01:48:15.000 Medicinal.

01:48:16.000 Are these people paying for these?

01:48:18.000 How much?

01:48:18.000 Yes.

01:48:19.000 Uh that one was one dollar.

01:48:21.000 For the low, low cost of one dollar.

01:48:23.000 He got to promote his show.

01:48:24.000 Okay.

01:48:25.000 Yes.

01:48:26.000 A little low.

01:48:27.000 Well, you know, here's one that's 20.

01:48:29.000 Uh Vacant Stairs says Quebec is my favorite part of Latin America.

01:48:36.000 I don't get that.

01:48:37.000 You seem like you're from Montreal.

01:48:39.000 No.

01:48:40.000 Yeah.

01:48:40.000 Do I?

01:48:41.000 Yeah, where are you from?

01:48:41.000 What about me?

01:48:42.000 Uh New York, Long Island.

01:48:45.000 Long Island.

01:48:47.000 Long Island?

01:48:48.000 I thought I was going to say Israel.

01:48:49.000 Montreal's very Jew y. 1.00

01:48:51.000 Is it?

01:48:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:52.000 No, not familiar.

01:48:54.000 The English that were kicked out were all Jewish during the uh separatism. 0.82

01:49:01.000 When people ask me why I'm such a Semite, I'm like, I don't know.

01:49:01.000 That's right.

01:49:05.000 I grew up around them.

01:49:06.000 A phylosemite?

01:49:07.000 You do you love my people?

01:49:08.000 Yes, I'm a Philo Semite.

01:49:13.000 More than most of the Jews I know, actually. 1.00

01:49:16.000 Like most of the like I know rabbis that fucking hate Israel. 1.00

01:49:20.000 Uh-oh. 1.00

01:49:21.000 Jay Riggs says, Elod, you're stupid is showing. 1.00

01:49:23.000 Basic fact, Virginia allows you to marry your first cousin. 1.00

01:49:26.000 West Virginia does not allow you to marry your first or second cousins.

01:49:30.000 West Virginia has more strict familial marriage laws.

01:49:32.000 Way to hate on West Virginia.

01:49:34.000 Yeah, so I actually pulled it up.

01:49:35.000 I wasn't gonna drop the stats during the show, but uh it said um West Virginia was rated second among the states of intermarriage with uh your cousin's illegal.

01:49:44.000 But there's a deal, it's legal and it's a pattern.

01:49:48.000 In Pakistan, it's a pattern. 1.00

01:49:51.000 West Virginia is actually or Virginia, it may have happened a couple times.

01:49:54.000 It's not a fake.

01:49:55.000 West Virginia is the second most Trump supporting state.

01:49:57.000 It's got below average national crime, tons of economic opportunity.

01:50:01.000 It's fantastic here.

01:50:03.000 It's also like lowest per capita um income per capita GDP per capita.

01:50:09.000 I forgot the average salaries is like there's no correlation between poverty and crime?

01:50:14.000 I'm saying not in this case, but it's one of the poorest states.

01:50:18.000 I gotta say, it's opportunity.

01:50:20.000 When the driver pulled in to 774 Pine Street in Chesterton, West Virginia.

01:50:25.000 I was like, this place feels like a crime fees.

01:50:28.000 What address are we dropping there?

01:50:29.000 What is it?

01:50:30.000 I'm doxing you.

01:50:31.000 We're in West Virginia.

01:50:35.000 It's an open invite.

01:50:36.000 Everybody knows we're in West Virginia.

01:50:38.000 Oh, okay.

01:50:38.000 Yeah.

01:50:39.000 But I but I but I I appreciate the reverse doxing.

01:50:42.000 You got swatted here, didn't you?

01:50:44.000 Uh, not here.

01:50:45.000 We can't get swatted here.

01:50:46.000 But the old studio was swatted like 15 times.

01:50:48.000 We had fake bomb cents.

01:50:50.000 They they found so you know, you you understand this, like what you know, at a certain point you buy property, you obfuscate the ownership, you know.

01:50:57.000 They still found it.

01:50:58.000 We think we know who did it.

01:50:59.000 We sent the info to the FBI, they laughed at us, you know what I mean?

01:51:02.000 Yeah, I guess.

01:51:02.000 I didn't stop it.

01:51:03.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:51:03.000 But uh yeah You know what's weird when you have a really good uh uh home address and it's solid, someone comes to your house as a friend, and then they send you like shorts with a penis on the front. 0.99

01:51:17.000 What? 0.99

01:51:18.000 Like the as a joke?

01:51:19.000 Like novelty shorts. 1.00

01:51:20.000 Yeah, like novelty shorts as a joke, and you're like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:51:24.000 So you start like calling all your buddies who did the getting their address and finding and then like you get my shorts? 0.97

01:51:30.000 And you're like, dude, I spent two days of my life finding out who sent these shorts.

01:51:34.000 We just have guys with rifles who when the guy walks up with the shorts, they grab him by the thing.

01:51:38.000 I killed a guy who had some novelty shorts.

01:51:40.000 I hope you're proud of yourself. 0.97

01:51:42.000 Uh we we have uh security perimeter and we tell people because of the death threats, don't come here.

01:51:47.000 You've been warned, but crazy people do crazy things, man.

01:51:50.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:51:52.000 Uh and I I can't say too much for security reasons, but we've had some crazy stuff happen.

01:51:59.000 Well, if you want to see with our security, come to 7749 Hine Avenue.

01:52:05.000 I'm sure that's West Virginia.

01:52:10.000 That's where we thrive.

01:52:13.000 Yeah, let's grab some more of these uh what do we got here?

01:52:16.000 Hopefully it's not a real address that gets blown up tomorrow.

01:52:20.000 Someone lives there.

01:52:21.000 Let's see.

01:52:22.000 Uh Gasparero says, I am 54, my wife is 45.

01:52:25.000 We just had our fifth child, Vienna Lee.

01:52:28.000 Happy health, uh happy health, six pounds to answer.

01:52:31.000 Wow, congratulations.

01:52:32.000 Congratulations.

01:52:32.000 Awesome.

01:52:33.000 Yeah.

01:52:34.000 Uh Astro Fox says, Gavin, will the Vice movie you made ever come out?

01:52:40.000 No.

01:52:40.000 I I was told by someone who left the studio, 20th Century Fox.

01:52:44.000 They said, and I quote, the fat man told Mickey Mouse not to let it go.

01:52:50.000 So this was gonna be like a biopic of Vice.

01:52:52.000 It's it's uh it's a movie of my book, Death the Cool, which includes a lot of Vice stuff.

01:52:57.000 I mean, this is a no-brainer.

01:52:58.000 This is a this is a 200 million dollar film.

01:53:00.000 This is like the annoying thing is I didn't want to do it.

01:53:03.000 And I go, let's just make it about my life, but not include Vice.

01:53:06.000 And like, no, it was a British guy.

01:53:07.000 No, we go get Vice in there. 1.00

01:53:09.000 We got Dave Vice. 1.00

01:53:10.000 And then I go, okay, fuck. 0.99

01:53:12.000 Well, how do you do a biopic of Gavin without Vice in it? 1.00

01:53:16.000 I guess.

01:53:17.000 But I did get the fattest actor I could find to play to play Shane.

01:53:22.000 Wait, you filmed the movie?

01:53:23.000 It's done.

01:53:24.000 What?

01:53:24.000 It's done sitting on a shelf.

01:53:26.000 How do we get it?

01:53:27.000 You can't.

01:53:29.000 If there's a will, there's a way.

01:53:31.000 Good.

01:53:32.000 Get hacking, Russians. 1.00

01:53:35.000 Get in there.

01:53:36.000 20th century Fox Digital.

01:53:38.000 Well, but I mean, like Vice is cooked right now, so what you know, what loss is there?

01:53:42.000 Wouldn't Disney want to make the money back they lost?

01:53:45.000 Sounds good to me.

01:53:46.000 I I had a guy offer them 650 grand, and he said uh they said to him, You could offer me three billion.

01:53:53.000 I would never give this to you.

01:53:54.000 Wow.

01:53:55.000 I think Shane shut down Eddie Wang's movie Vice is Broke.

01:53:59.000 It was called Vice is Broke.

01:54:01.000 Yeah.

01:54:02.000 And it's it got toasted.

01:54:03.000 Eddie Wang, he's a compulsive liar, which ironically I think he got from Shane, and he was like, it got shut down because I'm not about the bib is in Gaza.

01:54:15.000 Because the distributor works with software that helps Israel. 0.76

01:54:20.000 All right, I'm making a movie about Vice.

01:54:21.000 Really?

01:54:22.000 I'm gonna make a movie about Vice.

01:54:24.000 Okay.

01:54:24.000 There you go.

01:54:25.000 Well, I can get you this footage.

01:54:26.000 It just has a giant watermark on it.

01:54:29.000 And they're gonna come to me and they're gonna be like, we're gonna buy the rights so that you don't do it.

01:54:32.000 Yeah.

01:54:33.000 All right, five million bucks, Disney, and I won't make the movie.

01:54:36.000 You can buy the rights to my Vice story.

01:54:38.000 It must be Disney because he said the.

01:54:39.000 Oh, I got stories.

01:54:40.000 Batman told Mickey Mouse no.

01:54:43.000 Stories.

01:54:44.000 I from Vice.

01:54:46.000 Yeah.

01:54:46.000 They had a secret room in their building?

01:54:48.000 A hidden room.

01:54:50.000 You weren't there for this.

01:54:51.000 For what?

01:54:52.000 When when uh so uh all I can tell you is they so the you remember the Brooklyn building, the white building is at two entrance on both sides in in Williamsburg.

01:55:04.000 Yeah, were you there for that?

01:55:05.000 My days ended at North Tenth.

01:55:07.000 Yeah, yeah, North Tenth.

01:55:08.000 But it was like that white building used to be a skate park or something or a skate shop.

01:55:08.000 Yeah, okay.

01:55:11.000 Yep, yep.

01:55:12.000 And uh then they built like sue editing stuff uh editing stuff. 0.52

01:55:15.000 Well, while I was there, they knocked the wall out in the front on the uh this would have been the north side of the building, and they took over the rest of the building.

01:55:23.000 Then there was another area where there were stairs that went up to a small room and a secret wall that opened up into a hidden room.

01:55:30.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:55:31.000 That's gotta be sex. 0.98

01:55:33.000 Oh I went in there once. 0.99

01:55:36.000 It's just a table.

01:55:37.000 They were like you you went in there once in.

01:55:39.000 I think I think it was for coach. 0.97

01:55:40.000 An inch of cum, and you're like, what the Nah it it wouldn't have been comfortable. 0.94

01:55:44.000 I think it was probably drugs. 0.96

01:55:45.000 And um, the assumption would be that they needed a meeting where they could bring executives to party, you know, do blow or something.

01:55:53.000 It's gonna be blow. 0.98

01:55:54.000 And sex. 0.98

01:55:55.000 Why are we not mutually exclusive?

01:55:57.000 Because they had these glass rooms.

01:55:59.000 They had rooms that were like glass walls, and you and you know, they had the bear room.

01:56:03.000 That was uh the bear room was the big glass divider.

01:56:05.000 It was like a big open room, and then it had a glass divider, and there was a bear in it.

01:56:09.000 Yeah, John Martin sued them for that bear.

01:56:11.000 Really?

01:56:12.000 Yeah, it's a big it's on the news.

01:56:14.000 Uh from him.

01:56:16.000 Yeah, they they kept his bear, and he's like, No, that's my bear.

01:56:19.000 I got that on assignment.

01:56:21.000 And then they went to court and they won.

01:56:21.000 I own that.

01:56:24.000 The the Vice won.

01:56:26.000 No, John Martin won.

01:56:28.000 Wild.

01:56:28.000 But so, you know, they had these uh glass rooms for meetings, and when Google came, they went into the big glass conference room, and you could see them in there doing their things.

01:56:28.000 Weird.

01:56:38.000 And then they had another room with a hidden wall.

01:56:40.000 And it was like, you know.

01:56:42.000 That's kind of cool.

01:56:44.000 I I I enjoy disparaging Vice, but now we're drifting into that.

01:56:48.000 Sounds awesome.

01:56:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:56:50.000 The uh there are some stories that I'll, you know, I'll refrain from saying related to the downfall of the company.

01:56:56.000 Uh well, if it's not sexual assault, it is, yeah.

01:56:59.000 Okay.

01:56:59.000 Right.

01:57:00.000 It's like my buddy Chris Lombardi from Matador Records.

01:57:03.000 I tried to get my dad to do Coke one night at my I think it was my 30th birthday.

01:57:08.000 I was like, come on, man.

01:57:09.000 And he's like, I've got enough addictions for one lifetime.

01:57:12.000 Thank you.

01:57:14.000 Let's let's let's save.

01:57:15.000 Let's let's save a little bit.

01:57:16.000 I'll tell some of the story in the members only, but let's read some because we still gotta read some more of these super chats.

01:57:20.000 So what do we got here?

01:57:21.000 Let's uh let's grab this.

01:57:22.000 Uh I'm not your buddy guy says interesting day today.

01:57:25.000 Seeing Keir Stormtroopers arrest of a comedian doing their best.

01:57:29.000 Mr. Creedy impression as they cuff him saying, not so funny now, is it, Mr. Funny Man?

01:57:33.000 Wow.

01:57:34.000 That was that was amazing when they arrested Graham Graham Lynn.

01:57:37.000 Yeah.

01:57:37.000 I was talking I was talking to Tommy Robinson about this.

01:57:39.000 I was like, you guys remember V for Vendetta, right?

01:57:41.000 I actually just watched it last week.

01:57:43.000 I'm like sick, so I watched literally every movie on the planet.

01:57:46.000 And it's fascinating that it's this authoritarian England where it's all about nationalism, anti-Islam, Christianity.

01:57:53.000 And I'm like, but the things they're doing or what the left are doing.

01:57:56.000 Yeah.

01:57:57.000 You know, so it was funny to see, you know, Creedy is like, and there's always England prevails.

01:58:02.000 And I'm like, now you've got a guy on TV being like, Don't say England.

01:58:06.000 You'll get you'll be offended some someone and you'll go to jail. 1.00

01:58:09.000 And by the way, Guy Fox, that that stupid that stupid mask they wear. 1.00

01:58:14.000 Yeah, he's a theocrat. 1.00

01:58:15.000 He was he was a Catholic who was upset with how the government was drifting away from Catholicism.

01:58:22.000 Yeah, he wanted to blow up parliament.

01:58:24.000 So he's a religious fanatic. 0.95

01:58:26.000 A Catholic religious fanatic. 0.89

01:58:26.000 Yep. 0.89

01:58:28.000 This is what I never understood about the movie where uh you know it's it's Hugo Weaving playing V. He's like, a great man wanted to uh to remind all of us what it meant.

01:58:36.000 I'm like, no, he wanted a theocratic government.

01:58:39.000 He he was upset with Parliament.

01:58:43.000 Whatever.

01:58:44.000 My understanding is in the comic, V is like a very lefty anarchist guy, he's very violent, but it was funny.

01:58:49.000 They made the movie, and uh all the predictions about authoritarianism uh applied to the left and not not the right, in fact.

01:58:55.000 Wait, Tim, you cut me off on my earlier story.

01:58:57.000 I don't know why.

01:58:58.000 Maybe it was too offensive, but oh no, because I'm I was we got a few minutes left.

01:59:01.000 I don't know, miss the super chats.

01:59:03.000 But Chris Lombardi said, What I because I the next day I go, I I feel terrible what I said to my dad. 0.87

01:59:07.000 That was so retarded. 1.00

01:59:08.000 I can't believe I said that. 0.95

01:59:09.000 And Chris goes, if what you're saying doesn't hurt anyone, it's funny.

01:59:15.000 And I was like, what a great lesson.

01:59:17.000 Thank you, Chris.

01:59:18.000 Makes sense.

01:59:19.000 And that applies to the the British government shutting down someone with rude tweets.

01:59:23.000 If no one is physically harmed by what you've done, it's funny.

01:59:28.000 Stop.

01:59:29.000 Unless you're trying to maintain control over people and you can't have them deviating from your plans.

01:59:34.000 Yeah, well, say that, and then you know, there's no repercussions.

01:59:39.000 That's the beauty of free speech.

01:59:41.000 All right, let's read some more.

01:59:42.000 We got uh one evil chef says, Hey Tim, said uh sad to hear you were sick with a closed throat.

01:59:46.000 Had that happen a few years back when I turned 40, found out peppermint liquor cures it.

01:59:50.000 High proofs work faster, but it's not for drinking, only to relax your throat.

01:59:54.000 Well, I certainly did not drink alcohol while I was sick.

01:59:59.000 The last time I had a drink.

02:00:02.000 Probably the uh election.

02:00:05.000 No, no, no, no.

02:00:09.000 Man, I didn't even drink at my wedding.

02:00:12.000 Yeah.

02:00:12.000 What?

02:00:13.000 Yeah.

02:00:14.000 Yeah, I don't drink.

02:00:16.000 No tattoos, no piercings.

02:00:18.000 It's totally different.

02:00:20.000 No drinking, no drugs.

02:00:21.000 It's work.

02:00:22.000 Do you drink?

02:00:23.000 I drink, yes.

02:00:24.000 Okay.

02:00:25.000 Uh only for uh the Sabbath, of course.

02:00:29.000 Um, I'm kidding.

02:00:30.000 Maybe uh you don't drink?

02:00:33.000 I might have had a day drinking, wake up in the morning, drinking.

02:00:33.000 I quit.

02:00:38.000 Well, you're an old man.

02:00:39.000 I wasn't talking or anything.

02:00:40.000 Slinging back bruised like this still, can you?

02:00:42.000 Wait, I thought you know what's funny.

02:00:44.000 I thought you were gonna say the exact opposite. 0.99

02:00:46.000 I think I'm gonna be like, You're an old man, of course you drink, but I every old man has a butt in his hand. 0.95

02:00:52.000 That's uh I thought he was gonna say, like, who cares? 0.89

02:00:55.000 You're old, you know, drink away. 1.00

02:00:56.000 Have you ever seen was it what was that movie Little Miss Sunshine?

02:00:59.000 Where the grandpa's doing heroin.

02:01:01.000 He's like, I don't care, I'm gonna die.

02:01:03.000 I'm I'm 80.

02:01:04.000 Who cares?

02:01:05.000 I feel like the youth has become more health conscious, especially surrounding drinking.

02:01:09.000 I feel like there's a anti-cigarette campaign that's been very effective on the youth.

02:01:13.000 Yeah, it's terrible.

02:01:14.000 Kids don't drink.

02:01:15.000 A big part of the reason why is anti-cicretary.

02:01:19.000 Yeah, they're empty.

02:01:20.000 They're all the the they're they're all on on uh dating apps.

02:01:23.000 A big part of the reason why people don't smoke anymore is because cigarettes are ten dollars a pack.

02:01:27.000 Is that the case?

02:01:28.000 Incredibly expensive nowadays.

02:01:30.000 Pub culture, dive bar culture, it's dying, and that's terrible.

02:01:34.000 It is.

02:01:35.000 This country was founded on dive bars, by the way. 0.99

02:01:37.000 It was the founding fathers meeting at pubs to talk about how people's a bullshit thing to say. 0.99

02:01:44.000 You with your gold rings and tattoos and so mustache, I couldn't. 0.99

02:01:48.000 It's trying of yours.

02:01:49.000 I know it's from that.

02:01:51.000 no, no, no. 1.00

02:01:52.000 Now I'm I'm a bullshit. 0.99

02:01:53.000 I could just see you being a barista. 0.99

02:01:54.000 Sure, sure.

02:01:55.000 Anyway, anyway, to the point, this is it's a literal fact that the founding fathers are meeting at pubs and they were having beers and they were pissed off about what the crown was doing.

02:02:02.000 The American Revolution happened because they were learning gun training and they were the at the public house and they got no one would come.

02:02:10.000 So they go, okay, how about free beer?

02:02:12.000 So they would have they'd get their beers, then they do the gun training after, and they started talking like, why are we paying all these taxes to a king?

02:02:19.000 So drunken rants at a bar is why you have America.

02:02:24.000 Indeed.

02:02:25.000 Yeah.

02:02:26.000 Keep attacking me for my elimination appearance.

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02:02:51.000 And I have put up a video today talking about oh, you guys want to watch this one.

02:02:55.000 Uh YouTube's not too keen on sharing it, but there's a viral video going around of of these German guys in France talking about how France ain't French no more.

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02:03:03.000 Uh Gavin, you want to shout anything out?

02:03:05.000 Censored.tv is the only place I can be.

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02:03:44.000 Um Gavin left the room, but I was gonna say it was a refreshing throwback um to Gavin, me and Gavin go way back.

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02:04:10.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:04:11.000 you there.

02:04:11.000 Thank you.

02:05:12.000 Nope.

02:05:12.000 You don't have groupies, you don't have PB groupies?

02:05:14.000 No.

02:05:15.000 Never?

02:05:15.000 Never.

02:05:16.000 I did piss Jennifer Anderson's bed, as I told you earlier. 0.99

02:05:19.000 I've never fucked a celebrity, and I've never fucked up. 0.99

02:05:22.000 Let me uh someone from England. 0.99

02:05:23.000 Let me let me point right there.

02:05:25.000 Field producer Tim Pool in the North Korean motorcycle diaries.

02:05:27.000 That was that was really fun.

02:05:28.000 Uh uh Gareth Morgan.

02:05:30.000 He's a famous New Zealander uh rich guy, and he is accused of wanting to kill everyone's cats. 0.99

02:05:36.000 Kill everyone's cats. 0.98

02:05:37.000 Because he said that the cats in New Zealand are killing off all the indigenous animals and that they should they should neuter them all so they can't reproduce and then let cats die off. 1.00

02:05:46.000 And then they were like, You want to kill a kids?

02:05:48.000 And he was like, I don't want to kill anyone's kids.

02:05:51.000 And then kids and kids became melded together and he went to jail.

02:05:56.000 I had to uh the reason the reason why I interviewed Gareth Morgan is because I was actually there to interview Kim.com.

02:06:01.000 But because New Zealand's so small, they're like, if you get to the border and say you're gonna interview Kim.com, it's gonna cause problems.

02:06:06.000 So you're actually also gonna interview Gareth Morgan, so when you get there, say you're interviewing Gareth Morgan, and maybe Kim.com.

02:06:12.000 That's a different lesson, by the way, in media.

02:06:15.000 Are we live?

02:06:16.000 Are we on live?

02:06:17.000 Yeah, which is uncensored. 0.97

02:06:18.000 You know the whole Vice in North Korea thing is complete horseshit.

02:06:22.000 The uh what do you mean? 0.97

02:06:24.000 They say they bribed their way in.

02:06:26.000 You can't bribe your way. 1.00

02:06:27.000 What you shuffle some fucking some can I swear? 1.00

02:06:32.000 Yes, you shuffle some fucking dollars over to someone at the end. 1.00

02:06:34.000 You've been dropping fuckins all night. 1.00

02:06:36.000 I don't know what the fuck you're at. 1.00

02:06:38.000 But now I can relax. 1.00

02:06:40.000 You can't bribe your way into North Korea.

02:06:44.000 So they went in there legitimately, and then uh all the stuff they showed was stuff they were allowed to show.

02:06:50.000 Yeah.

02:06:51.000 Like, you know how much of a gorilla newsman you'd have to be to sh to break at hack. 1.00

02:06:56.000 Let me tell you a story.

02:06:57.000 One of the producers told me.

02:06:58.000 So uh a friend of mine, we used to I used to hang out with this editor. 0.98

02:07:02.000 I'm gonna get people in so much fucking trouble.

02:07:04.000 But I guess Vice has imploded and there's no real repercussions anymore. 0.98

02:07:08.000 Uh so there was a there was a I think the story was the uh radioactive animals of Chernobyl.

02:07:15.000 Do you remember that one? 0.99

02:07:16.000 Oh my god, exact same shit. 1.00

02:07:18.000 So this fabrication. 1.00

02:07:19.000 Yeah, so that so see, I got I got backup on this one.

02:07:22.000 The editor said that uh in the edit, you because it's all the raw footage, the filmer is like, hey, there's no actual radioactive animals here.

02:07:33.000 What are we gonna how are we gonna how are we gonna film this?

02:07:36.000 And Shane on camera says, we're gonna make it happen.

02:07:39.000 And then they fabricated it.

02:07:41.000 That was that's what I was told by then.

02:07:43.000 Like get someone in a wolf costume to go and like apparent apparently what they did was they print they they film one shot where they pretend to shoot, then they get footage later on from someone else who has wild wilderness footage of an animal, and then you edit it together so it looks like they did.

02:07:59.000 Right, yeah.

02:08:00.000 Yep.

02:08:00.000 Well, someone gives away.

02:08:01.000 That's actually better than the North Korean shit, which was in North Korea, you're only allowed to do what you're allowed to do. 0.99

02:08:09.000 So the whole like we did the sex pistols at karaoke, and we uh f what I heard from their handler was they were just they were just fucking prostitutes, and he was grabbing their wallets and hiding them so the prostitutes wouldn't rob them. 1.00

02:08:09.000 Right. 1.00

02:08:26.000 And that was their investigative reporting in North Korea.

02:08:30.000 I can't tell you how many times I heard a story at Vice about how someone got their job by having sex with someone else.

02:08:36.000 Yeah. 0.85

02:08:37.000 Well, that's how Shane got his kids.

02:08:40.000 He he married his uh intern, one of the interns.

02:08:42.000 Yeah, he impregnated one too many girls and she didn't agree to the abortion, so she uh is that really what happened?

02:08:49.000 Yeah, you know, Eddie Wang came to my studio and he was like, uh, you're the best guy in the world, you're a living god.

02:08:57.000 Everyone I talk to says that you were the backbone of vice.

02:09:01.000 And I'm like, I can't help but agree, man.

02:09:05.000 I'm enjoying where we're going with this. 1.00

02:09:07.000 And then he started doing interviews, and he goes, uh, yeah, the guy's a fucking Nazi, he's a nightmare. 1.00

02:09:14.000 I was gonna beat the shit out of him, but I saw it. 1.00

02:09:17.000 I the only way I could I know I can't do that, I'll go to jail because I'm a tough guy from the Bronx. 0.99

02:09:21.000 No, you're a rich kid from Florida with lawyers.

02:09:24.000 Do you remember when uh this was like 20 2013, I guess, 2014?

02:09:29.000 Well, I don't know if it was uh who it was, I don't know, name the wrong guy, but uh he had a podcast, and I think it was the Facebook guy.

02:09:35.000 Is that David Cho?

02:09:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:09:37.000 And he was a host on Vice HBO, right?

02:09:39.000 Yeah, I think it was him.

02:09:39.000 Yep.

02:09:40.000 I could be wrong, so I'll just preface that. 0.85

02:09:42.000 But he did a podcast where he described how he raped a Masseuse. 0.83

02:09:45.000 Yes. 0.64

02:09:46.000 Yeah, you remember that one?

02:09:48.000 That was kind of the end of our friendship in a weird way, because he goes, Everyone's blowing this out of proportion.

02:09:54.000 Can you, you're a writer, write me a defense of this?

02:09:58.000 And I'm like, dude, I wasn't there.

02:10:00.000 I don't even know.

02:10:00.000 Like, what are you talking about?

02:10:01.000 What happened exactly?

02:10:03.000 And then he he sent me another message going getting excited, waiting for your response.

02:10:08.000 And I'm like, I don't I want he wanted an essay of me explaining him. 0.99

02:10:12.000 The story he told on his podcast was that he was getting a massage and he grabbed the masseuse by the back of the neck and jammed her head onto his dick and forced her to blow him. 1.00

02:10:21.000 And Jesus. 0.99

02:10:22.000 And and it, and this was on YouTube, and it made became a huge scandal.

02:10:26.000 And so uh I was sitting in uh Eddie's office and they were talking about it, and uh I was like, I think you probably just want to cut this guy off.

02:10:39.000 I'm I'm like, I don't know why you guys want to absorb any damage from this guy.

02:10:42.000 Well, and what happened?

02:10:43.000 Were you kidding?

02:10:44.000 Was this was this were you playing a character?

02:10:46.000 Like well, that that was what they were going with. 0.65

02:10:48.000 They were like, I know, like you just confess to rape.

02:10:51.000 What's the context?

02:10:52.000 The strategy they chose was so again, I'm sitting there and I'm like, just say like, hey, this has nothing to do with us.

02:10:58.000 Okay, it's it's his show, not ours.

02:11:00.000 Don't come at us, and that's it.

02:11:02.000 And they were like, I think we're gonna do nothing.

02:11:05.000 I think that's the best PR strategy.

02:11:07.000 Just ignore it.

02:11:08.000 And they did, and it worked.

02:11:12.000 It's good advice, though.

02:11:13.000 I was like, I was wrong.

02:11:15.000 You know, yeah, we didn't much.

02:11:17.000 Here's here's here's here's a fun story.

02:11:18.000 Um there's uh so one of the reasons that I was upset with Vice was uh I'm actually sitting at the table with Gareth Morgan right here, and I did a handful of documentaries, many of them were huge.

02:11:28.000 I did their Ukraine coverage, we got like five million views.

02:11:30.000 I did their Brazil coverage, got like five million.

02:11:32.000 The Kim.com documentaries got like eight or whatever, I don't know what it's got.

02:11:35.000 This one's got six.

02:11:36.000 So I was actually hitting it out of the park for them on their docs, and I said to uh the producers, I was like, guys, the docs I'm doing for you are fucking some of the biggest you've done in a long time.

02:11:47.000 Why aren't I on HBO?

02:11:49.000 You guys are putting other people on HBO covering stories I'm covering, but it's not even their footage, it's my footage.

02:11:54.000 And uh there were two things.

02:11:56.000 The first, I will gladly and willfully admit I was inexperienced, so we had tried shooting some, and they were like, you need to get more character in your delivery.

02:12:07.000 You're a news guy, like you're on the ground saying, so here we are, X, Y, and Z is happening.

02:12:10.000 That's irrelevant.

02:12:11.000 If you're getting six to eight million, it doesn't.

02:12:14.000 And here was the big reason.

02:12:15.000 So I uh what I'm saying is I'm not gonna pretend like a dude who's never done a doc before is is gonna kick the door in and getting on HBO.

02:12:21.000 Granted, again, the the North Korean motorcycle diaries, six million views, and I was the one who interviewed the guy, got the footage, brought it back, they edit it together.

02:12:29.000 I'm not in North Korea.

02:12:30.000 Uh the Kim.com one was massive. 0.99

02:12:32.000 It fucking blew the fuck up. 0.97

02:12:33.000 Everybody loved it. 0.99

02:12:35.000 The reason why I couldn't go in HBO is because HBO said no white guys.

02:12:38.000 Wow.

02:12:39.000 Yeah.

02:12:40.000 And they told me that.

02:12:41.000 And they said you were like, I'm a gook.

02:12:43.000 I said I'm mixed race, and they were like, doesn't matter because it's not about what you actually are, it's about what you look like.

02:12:47.000 Wow.

02:12:47.000 And so I was told by Vice.

02:12:49.000 Then you were like, I quit.

02:12:50.000 I am a kook.

02:12:52.000 I said, Oh, perhaps you do not understand.

02:12:54.000 I I actually talk a recognition. 0.99

02:12:57.000 I said, uh D's I said, I'll tell you what, you send me, you send me to they they they were we had we had a plan to go into Eritrea, and I we were gonna we were gonna try and ride on back a motorcycle into Eritrea, like real fucked up shit. 1.00

02:13:10.000 And they were like, you might die doing it. 0.99

02:13:11.000 And I'm like, okay. 0.98

02:13:12.000 Do I have to talk a recognition if you put me uh you might die, but if you're white, then it won't matter. 1.00

02:13:19.000 So I actually had this conversation with them and they said HBO wants uh men of color and females, and so it's hard for us to put you on the schedule with a duck. 1.00

02:13:28.000 Wow, but we'll we'll we'll push for it.

02:13:32.000 And so I I've got like seriously, the Ukraine coverage we did. 0.92

02:13:37.000 I'm like, how the fuck did that not make the cut? 0.88

02:13:39.000 It was the it was the start of the Ukraine civil war at the Euro My Dan protest. 0.98

02:13:43.000 I was hosting and covering it.

02:13:44.000 We had footage of the Statue of Lenin being toppled.

02:13:46.000 We got like six million hits online overnight.

02:13:49.000 Why aren't we putting something together on this?

02:13:51.000 And they were just like, HBO doesn't want white guys, and then we got to the argument.

02:13:55.000 So I got pissed.

02:13:57.000 I had three meetings, and I say three strikes here.

02:13:58.000 I had three meetings with uh Shane and uh uh and Eddie, and I was like, listen, when I came here, I told you guys I was foregoing like I I had like a $250,000 offer, and I took 85k to work at Vice in exchange for them giving me a budget and funding to produce documentaries.

02:14:16.000 My idea, my strategy was this.

02:14:19.000 I will I will come work for you guys for cheap.

02:14:22.000 If the money that you you'd actually be paying me goes towards the production of documentaries, it's a win-win for both of us because you're not losing any extra money.

02:14:30.000 I'm using that money towards production, saves saves taxes for my for me.

02:14:34.000 The business model of Vice was zero dollars.

02:14:37.000 Yeah, but they could have paid me a lot more.

02:14:39.000 And uh I basically said, listen, give me a salary that allows me to live to start, but get me X amount of documents, X amount of time.

02:14:47.000 And so they didn't.

02:14:48.000 I had another meeting, and I said, Okay, it's a handshake deal.

02:14:51.000 I get it.

02:14:52.000 If this is where it ends, it's where it ends.

02:14:54.000 I'm unhappy with the current direction.

02:14:56.000 I have produced X amount of things, uh field reports that I've done really well.

02:15:00.000 You guys haven't allowed me to grow this.

02:15:02.000 So what are we gonna do?

02:15:03.000 And then Shane was like, We're gonna pay you more money. 0.99

02:15:05.000 We're gonna get you a package, we're gonna get you SARS, soccer appreciation rights, and you know, it's all the shit. 0.99

02:15:08.000 And it was very nice. 0.99

02:15:09.000 And uh Shane, as the CEO, I felt like he was doing his job. 0.99

02:15:13.000 He's not gonna nitpick and micromanage all this shit. 0.99

02:15:16.000 But uh, you know, the dude's made off like a bandit. 0.99

02:15:20.000 Who am I?

02:15:21.000 Shane has of course.

02:15:23.000 He made a ton of money.

02:15:24.000 He's he's got I mean, come on, the dude's not broke, he's not poor.

02:15:27.000 He's he's we don't know what the gambling did to the dead.

02:15:31.000 Sure, sure, perhaps.

02:15:32.000 What about Michael Moyne?

02:15:33.000 Oh, sorry, I'll let you say I'll tell you one thing I never forgot that he said to me as I revel in my success.

02:15:40.000 And granted, we're not a multi-billion dollar company, but the failures of vice was Jason Mohica was there.

02:15:47.000 Uh so uh you don't you do you remember him?

02:15:49.000 Faintly, I'm gonna know that name tall guy, gray hair. 0.95

02:15:52.000 And uh he got fired, I guess, for raping some woman or something like that. 0.74

02:15:55.000 I don't know what he was that he was accused of. 0.66

02:15:57.000 I forgot him, yeah.

02:15:58.000 And so uh right.

02:15:59.000 So what happens is uh I go to Shane and and I'm like, we're gonna start.

02:16:04.000 There was a Vice News, but it wasn't actually field reporting.

02:16:07.000 And so I was the first person hired for Vice News, and Shane's credited me with all that.

02:16:12.000 I appreciate and respect all that. 1.00

02:16:13.000 Uh Jason was a fucking retard. 1.00

02:16:16.000 This dude was dumb as a box of rocks. 1.00

02:16:17.000 Did I just meet him in Berlin? 1.00

02:16:19.000 Jason Mohiki.

02:16:20.000 Jason Mohica.

02:16:21.000 Apparently he got accused of like, I guess a sexual assault or like raping somebody at Vice, and then they fired him or something.

02:16:21.000 I don't know.

02:16:27.000 Because we had a we were supposed to meet up and he he he bailed.

02:16:30.000 Let me uh that's kind of a good thing.

02:16:31.000 It seems extremely common at Vice. 0.88

02:16:33.000 Uh sexual assaults, rape. 0.92

02:16:36.000 Maybe I'm missing. 0.99

02:16:37.000 I don't know this guy.

02:16:38.000 Just the horniest company going.

02:16:39.000 Well, they have that vibe to them too, that aesthetic. 0.99

02:16:43.000 Okay, here's uh one woman said raping. 1.00

02:16:46.000 She was writing a Ferris. 0.99

02:16:48.000 One woman said she was writing a Ferris wheel at Coney Island after a company event when a coworker suddenly took her hand and put on her crotch.

02:16:53.000 She felt pressure in a sexual relationship with an executive and was fired after she rejected him. 0.78

02:16:58.000 Uh let's see.

02:16:59.000 That's why I fired you.

02:17:00.000 Andrew Crichton.

02:17:01.000 Oh, yeah, this is the big expose, right?

02:17:02.000 Jason Mohica, the former head of Vice News was fired last month.

02:17:05.000 Miss Veltroni, oh yeah, earlier this month, settled settled for an unmount with Martina uh Martina Veltroni, a former employee, claimed that a supervisor retaliated against against her after they had a sexual relationship among other allegations. 0.82

02:17:17.000 Right, okay, so that's what it was.

02:17:18.000 Everybody knew that they were banging. 1.00

02:17:20.000 Uh so anyway, this guy was a fucking idiot. 1.00

02:17:22.000 And um, evidence, look where he is and look where I am. 1.00

02:17:26.000 And so I was getting pissed off because I went, I I look, I'm I'm dealing with Eddie and Shane directly because I know what the fuck I'm talking about, and I know what was working and what wasn't.

02:17:34.000 And so when I go to them and say, here's what we have to do to get from point A to point B. And then Shane goes, Jason, you're in charge, get it done. 0.91

02:17:42.000 And then Jason turns around when Shane walks away and he goes, I'm not doing any of that shit. 0.99

02:17:46.000 And I said, then don't fucking waste my time. 0.98

02:17:48.000 And then I went into a meeting with Shane, he was in the screening room, and I said, Jason isn't getting the job done, and I'm not going to waste my time. 0.99

02:17:57.000 Shane gets pissed, and he goes, Jason, get the fucking job done. 0.98

02:18:01.000 Go do it. 0.99

02:18:02.000 Tim, welcome to business.

02:18:03.000 And I said, Okay.

02:18:05.000 So third strike, didn't get what I wanted.

02:18:08.000 I got no beef with Shane. 0.99

02:18:09.000 He doesn't owe me a shit. 0.99

02:18:11.000 And I'm not gonna act like I I I showed him by quitting, he had a billion dollar company, he did whatever the fuck he did. 0.99

02:18:17.000 I have no idea. 0.98

02:18:18.000 But I feel good in that every fucking thing I told them to do that they did not execute on, I have done and succeeded at doing. 0.98

02:18:26.000 And if they had listened to me for one fucking second, the company would still be worth billions of dollars. 0.97

02:18:31.000 Uh to be fair, I think everything I have would be tenfold because under the expansion that they could have afforded in the pro and and the management, we could have probably done a lot more because I suck at management, but they didn't listen, and everything I'm doing, I told them to do. 0.97

02:18:44.000 I said, You I I said this in 2013.

02:18:46.000 You've got 10 news hosts right now.

02:18:48.000 This is like late 2013, maybe early 2014.

02:18:51.000 Each of them has experience on the ground covering all of these big stories that are going viral and hitting the front page of Reddit and getting millions of views.

02:18:58.000 You need to get one camera producer to sit down, point the camera at their face, and tell them talk and just literally publish a podcast.

02:19:06.000 And they were like, eh, we'll see. 0.95

02:19:08.000 And Jason wouldn't fuck it and get it done, and Shane couldn't get him to get it done. 0.98

02:19:12.000 And so I left. 0.98

02:19:13.000 And then after uh I I went to Fusion.

02:19:16.000 What happens is Fusion, I get a call from recruiter, and they said, How would you like to work for a new venture started by Univision and ABC?

02:19:24.000 We want to be it, we're aiming to capture that energy of Vice.

02:19:27.000 You're the guy who started Vice News.

02:19:29.000 How would you Like to bring that here.

02:19:31.000 And I said, let's meet.

02:19:32.000 They flew him into Miami that weekend, literally like a day later.

02:19:36.000 I sat down with the the CEO and the president, and they said, We want to do what Vice does, but we want to be nice.

02:19:42.000 We want to be nice, Vice. 0.99

02:19:43.000 And I said, Everyone in their fucking grandmother wants to be nice, Vice. 0.99

02:19:45.000 And they said, We want you to do what you're doing, but do it here, and we'll pay you better. 0.99

02:19:51.000 And I said, I want $300,000 per year for my for my own production budget for documentaries.

02:19:58.000 I want $25,000 that I can spend on literally anything I want.

02:20:04.000 I what I'm saying is that 25K will never be questioned.

02:20:07.000 The 300K is going to be staff, documentary production.

02:20:10.000 You know where it's going.

02:20:11.000 25K.

02:20:12.000 If I say I'm buying it, you say okay.

02:20:14.000 They agreed.

02:20:15.000 And then they offered me he offered me, I think it was uh 250K to start.

02:20:21.000 And I said, You give me that budget, you give me my staff, we're done right.

02:20:26.000 We have a deal.

02:20:26.000 And he goes, Okay, let me uh go back to the office, uh, have a have a meeting, and then I'll call you next week.

02:20:33.000 And I said, You write me a check right now, I will show up first thing on Monday to Vice and tell them I quit.

02:20:39.000 And then the president and the CEO looked at each other and they were like, give me a minute.

02:20:43.000 Got on the phone, sat down, and then he wrote down on a notepad uh number and he slid it across the table and he's like, How's that sound?

02:20:49.000 And it was 200,000 cash on the spot and 250k per year for two uh two years, plus three hundred thousand per year uh production budget plus twenty five thousand per year discretionary budget plus uh three staff members.

02:21:05.000 And I said, Done.

02:21:07.000 And they said, come back with us, come back with us to the office, we'll cut you the check.

02:21:10.000 Went in, they cut the check.

02:21:12.000 I think after taxes, it's like 120 or whatever.

02:21:14.000 Yeah, and then Monday I showed up and Sterling was there, and I said, Can I talk with you outside?

02:21:19.000 And he's like, What's up?

02:21:20.000 And I was like, I really appreciate everything you've done for me and vouching for me and working with you is great.

02:21:24.000 I quit.

02:21:25.000 And he was like, What?

02:21:26.000 And I was like, I quit.

02:21:28.000 And I was like, the things I asked for from this company have not been delivered.

02:21:32.000 I'm not completely unhappy with what you know we've gotten, but it's not the threshold that I requested.

02:21:37.000 And so uh appreciate everything.

02:21:39.000 I'm out.

02:21:40.000 And he was like, No, no, no, no, no, hold on, wait.

02:21:42.000 And I was like, Sterling, I cash the check.

02:21:44.000 Let me get you more money. 0.95

02:21:45.000 I cash the check.

02:21:46.000 I mean, yeah, not gonna happen.

02:21:48.000 You know what's ironic about all that talk is that's Shane's world is checks, and let's do this and write it down right now.

02:21:57.000 And it was you you sort of beat him in his own game in his own world.

02:22:00.000 I probably could have got more money if I just told him.

02:22:03.000 But the issue for me was uh you've had three opportunities to deliver on the deal that we had.

02:22:09.000 I'm not gonna pretend to be important to Shane, so Shane doesn't need to waste any more time with me, and he owes me nothing.

02:22:15.000 I'm gonna do what's best for me.

02:22:16.000 I'm gonna take this money up front, I'm gonna go work this company, which sucked by the way. 1.00

02:22:20.000 Fusion was shit. 0.99

02:22:21.000 But uh I got cash, and then I when I when I left, I basically had all the money saved. 0.99

02:22:25.000 So everything I made, I basically saved it all, and then I started doing what I told Volfusion and Vice to do, and I started doing field field reporting, vlogging, podcasting built up, and now I have a company, and here's where we are, and we succeeded.

02:22:39.000 Granted, I'm not a multi-billion dollar enterprise considered the street vice is the street CNN like Vice was or anything like that, but I did well, and they should have listened to me.

02:22:46.000 Let's bore everyone with the minutia of the staff.

02:22:49.000 Um Eddie Moretti, who is like Shane's sidekick, great guy, great guy.

02:22:56.000 He was like a film uh professor at MIU from Canada, not really meant for New York.

02:23:02.000 He's not a survivor, he doesn't have thick skin, almost like a little Fabriger egg.

02:23:08.000 Wonderful guy.

02:23:09.000 I love him.

02:23:10.000 But he just wasn't cut out for New York.

02:23:13.000 And uh he lost his mind.

02:23:15.000 Really?

02:23:16.000 He was living in his car in LA, I heard recently, yeah.

02:23:20.000 Wow.

02:23:21.000 I think he may have gotten an apartment at some point.

02:23:24.000 At one point, like at the peak of vice, he had like multicolored Ferraris in his driveway.

02:23:31.000 Wore a purple suit with like a fedora with a finger in it and stuff.

02:23:35.000 And uh there was some editor who died, and he was caught.

02:23:39.000 Eddie was caught like wandering in the woods.

02:23:41.000 What?

02:23:42.000 Jesus at the funeral.

02:23:44.000 Wow.

02:23:44.000 And uh my theory, I just made this up totally.

02:23:47.000 You can't sue me for this.

02:23:48.000 I just popped in my head.

02:23:50.000 I think that he fell in love with this girl. 0.99

02:23:53.000 Shane Ainley raped her. 0.98

02:23:57.000 And he was like, Wait a minute. 0.99

02:23:59.000 This is supposed to be my best friend.

02:24:01.000 Wow.

02:24:02.000 He ain't learned the love of my life, which is happened many times.

02:24:07.000 Um to this particular individual.

02:24:10.000 And uh my whole life's been a lie. 1.00

02:24:12.000 Like I've been a sidekick to an anal rapist. 0.99

02:24:15.000 I was uh And then he snapped a few months ago. 0.97

02:24:18.000 Just to guess I uh hit up Shane about going on his podcast and he said, Yeah, and we'll work it out.

02:24:22.000 A few months ago?

02:24:23.000 Yeah.

02:24:24.000 Wow.

02:24:25.000 Yeah.

02:24:26.000 That's crazy.

02:24:27.000 Yeah, because he's doing that new podcast, but I don't I don't know, I don't know.

02:24:29.000 I think it's over.

02:24:30.000 It was called like uh Shane Smith has a question or something.

02:24:34.000 Yeah, it ended.

02:24:35.000 Mm-hmm.

02:24:35.000 Yeah, because it was probably failing.

02:24:37.000 It's funny that it took him this long to do what I told him to do in 2013.

02:24:41.000 Yeah, but I don't I don't blame him.

02:24:42.000 Look, you know, um if if a 20 year old comes to me and says, Hey Tim, you gotta get on TikTok and start dancing, I'm gonna be like, What?

02:24:48.000 And then in 20 years, if all the news videos you're not a dancer.

02:24:53.000 Like this pop culture is based on fans, and it's a self-perpetuating machine.

02:24:59.000 Like Morrissey, yeah.

02:25:01.000 He wanted to uh be an NME writer, New Musical Express, and they had no opportunities for him.

02:25:07.000 And he's like, Why am I writing about bands?

02:25:09.000 I'll just be a band.

02:25:11.000 Chuck D used to uh do flyers for bands, and then he was like, I'm gonna do my own band.

02:25:17.000 Let's call it public enemy.

02:25:18.000 Uh Lady Gaga. 0.81

02:25:20.000 Lady Gaga.

02:25:21.000 She she uh I can't remember which one of our early songs.

02:25:23.000 It might might have been um Telephone was written for Brittany Spears.

02:25:27.000 And when it was rejected, she was like, I'll do it myself.

02:25:30.000 Something like that, I think.

02:25:31.000 Yeah.

02:25:31.000 Ludacris was a a DJ.

02:25:33.000 He was a promoter, and then he was like, I'll just do my own songs.

02:25:36.000 Yeah Iggy Pop was like, I want to get all these bands in Ann Arbor and take the best guys of each band and make a band called the Stooges.

02:25:45.000 So you and I have the like gasoline in the engine to do this.

02:25:49.000 I was making mixtapes when I was 14.

02:25:52.000 Shane is a different guy.

02:25:53.000 He's always been a sales guy.

02:25:55.000 Well, I do that too.

02:25:56.000 Which I admire, but it's not so when he tried to be a pop culture dude, it just didn't fly.

02:26:02.000 Remember this is a separate topic, sort of, but remember Michael Moynihan, he was a bona fide journalist, and he came aboard and he was like, No, we you can't say that that happened without a source.

02:26:14.000 Yeah.

02:26:14.000 And Shane was like, You're fired.

02:26:17.000 You're making me look bad.

02:26:18.000 And then sh and then he was rehired later.

02:26:21.000 And I saw recently he was with this guy we call Babyballs, Thomas Morton on a podcast, and their whole podcast was like, Am I a racist or not?

02:26:31.000 And um, am I a Nazi?

02:26:31.000 Wow.

02:26:33.000 And I'm like, first of all, Shane fired you for verifying facts. 0.97

02:26:39.000 You guys both have evidence that he was a serial rapist.

02:26:42.000 Oh no, he's still doing his podcast. 0.82

02:26:44.000 Yeah, he got a big one.

02:26:45.000 And your biggest concern is um am I a racist?

02:26:49.000 Yeah, one week ago, six hundred and twenty-eight thousand views.

02:26:52.000 Oh, that's Moynihan.

02:26:53.000 Moyhan's on uh two-way with uh I think the funding is shut down.

02:26:58.000 I mean it's not it's not expensive.

02:27:00.000 Executive producer was Bill Maher, and I think Bill Marr shut it down.

02:27:03.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:27:04.000 Yeah.

02:27:04.000 I I had a great time on Bill Mars show.

02:27:07.000 You know, I went on uh Club Random and uh we got along swimmingly and um you know we'll we'll we'll we'll try to get him on the show at some point.

02:27:16.000 But yeah, Bill Bill uh his whole his whole network shut down, unfortunately.

02:27:19.000 That was Jillian Michaels as well.

02:27:20.000 We gotta get we gotta get callers.

02:27:22.000 I thought they could shut down with this.

02:27:24.000 Yeah, he six days ago guests there.

02:27:26.000 Uh he had Jeremy Corbell six days ago.

02:27:28.000 Who's Jeremy Corbell?

02:27:30.000 Oh Vice News podcast.

02:27:32.000 Oh, it does say club random.

02:27:34.000 He had Andrew Callahan on there not too long ago.

02:27:38.000 Yeah, it was pretty big.

02:27:39.000 Oh, look at that.

02:27:39.000 He had Jordan Peterson two months ago.

02:27:40.000 One point four million views.

02:27:41.000 Hey, it's not bad.

02:27:42.000 He's doing well with the podcast.

02:27:43.000 That's nothing to shake a stick at.

02:27:45.000 Hey that you only took him ten years to figure it out.

02:27:48.000 Uh I had hit him up, he said he said he'd have me on, and uh I thought that'd be interesting, but you know, not after this, I guarantee it.

02:27:55.000 Oh, I don't care.

02:27:57.000 But this is behind the paywall, so maybe you won't see it.

02:27:59.000 No, but the whole episode.

02:28:00.000 Let's get let's get a callers in here. 1.00

02:28:02.000 We got Appalachia and Yankee. 0.97

02:28:03.000 Yo, what's going on?

02:28:05.000 Uh good day, Tim.

02:28:06.000 Two year member who rarely calls in, but I do about Venezuela, and uh things are heating up.

02:28:12.000 So thanks for the time.

02:28:13.000 And I look forward to extrapolating in the after show on the Discord.

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