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00:02:20.000 What's up guys?

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00:02:24.000 So Jack Posobik here, host of Human Events Daily, filling in for the great Tim Poole, who hit me up this morning and said, look, I need some help.

00:02:34.000 Can you come in?

00:02:35.000 I said, I'm more than happy to do so.

00:02:37.000 So Tim is currently on the mend and we'll see.

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00:02:46.000 But in the meantime, you got me and no beanie tonight.

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00:03:00.000 Trump mobilizing the National Guard across nineteen states, law enforcement, ICE.

00:03:08.000 We're going to dig into this.

00:03:10.000 Specialized National Guard units, CNN, of course freaking out.

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00:05:18.000 But when I introduce us, introduce our guests and very excited to be sitting down, Andrew Wilson.

00:05:23.000 Hey, how's it going?

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00:06:34.000 Oh, Phil.

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00:06:42.000 The filming of the morning shows, you gotta see this morning, we had an interview with Nick Sorter.

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00:06:46.000 We discussed the crackdown.

00:06:47.000 We didn't know what it's a unit, squad, move.

00:06:50.000 There's a lot of different words we could use, but we're going to use the crackdown nationwide.

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00:06:56.000 Yeah, we'll talk about that.

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00:06:57.000 Hello, everyone.

00:06:58.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:06:58.000 My name is Phil LeBonti.

00:07:00.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter revolutionary.

00:07:02.000 Let's jump right into it.

00:07:04.000 Okay, jump right in, jump right in.

00:07:06.000 Yeah, of course.

00:07:07.000 So I love the CNN headline on this, by the way.

00:07:10.000 So Trump signs executive order establishing specialized, you can hear the breathlessness that they're writing, special anxiety isn't it?

00:07:18.000 National Guard units to, yeah, how many SSRIs went into this?

00:07:22.000 You know they wanted to put stormtroopers there.

00:07:23.000 You know, they're so close to writing storm.

00:07:26.000 And look at the graphic, right?

00:07:27.000 Just this, oh my gosh, look at them.

00:07:29.000 Just the local archering along.

00:07:31.000 Totally out of context.

00:07:32.000 Soldiers, you know, so specialized units, specifically trained and equipped to deal with public order issues.

00:07:39.000 So they're talking about specific units, specialized units of what okay, I understand what's in the first paragraph.

00:07:45.000 I already understand what they're talking about.

00:07:47.000 So specialized units, they're talking about crowd control.

00:07:49.000 They're talking about crowd control units, all right?

00:07:51.000 Don't like just, just, it's so obvious that they you they could use and I I say this every day, but they could obviously have just said it's crowd control units.

00:08:00.000 That's what we're looking at.

00:08:01.000 We're looking at people who are designed.

00:08:03.000 I believe and any army guys in the chat, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's a version of the military police.

00:08:10.000 I think it's an MP designator that goes in under that.

00:08:14.000 And then it's it's riot control basically.

00:08:16.000 And who has that because they have the ones who are trained.

00:08:18.000 They have those who have training for like law enforcement.

00:08:20.000 They have a little bit more training in terms of how to deal with those situations.

00:08:24.000 And that's where they're sending in those specialized units.

00:08:27.000 It sounds so much, so much scarier when you say it that way.

00:08:30.000 But also, and this is what they're all losing their minds about, they're losing their minds that Trump is saying nineteen more cities, potentially Chicago.

00:08:39.000 Andrew, what do you think?

00:08:41.000 Well, I saw a news scum and he was, uh, he was going to town about this and saying that it's all a ploy by Trump in order to steal the midterm elections. 0.83

00:08:51.000 And that's why they're mobilizing troops all over the place. 0.94

00:08:54.000 Now, this of course was carry over from his.

00:08:57.000 massive embarrassment when his little, his little speech got raided by ICE, which was hilarious.

00:09:04.000 It was hilarious.

00:09:05.000 But this is what they're all upset about.

00:09:08.000 The truth is, there used to be a ongoing meme that we would lose more people in Chicago in a day than we did in the Afghanistan war.

00:09:15.000 During the war on terror, I remember.

00:09:17.000 So, and it's true, that's been going on.

00:09:20.000 Now, people forget, go back to when Trump gave his very first victory speech.

00:09:25.000 You remember they were, all the commentators were saying, it's about strength because he said, American carnage, the days of American carnage are over.

00:09:33.000 So this shouldn't be a surprise to people.

00:09:34.000 Trump's been talking about doing this for a long time.

00:09:36.000 He talked about doing it when he was running the first.

00:09:39.000 time, he talked about possibly mobilizing the military to go into these places where we're losing more people than we were in legitimate wars.

00:09:47.000 So I think it's a good idea.

00:09:49.000 I'm curious.

00:09:50.000 I would like to see more troops.

00:09:51.000 I'm curious how many of the nineteen cities in question, how many of them have Democratic mayors?

00:09:57.000 Probably all of them.

00:09:59.000 So they asked him this question in the Oval Office earlier today and they said, you know, are you going to be sending troops to red cities?

00:10:07.000 And he just gives the reporter a look, like, what red cities?

00:10:10.000 Does anyone know any red cities?

00:10:12.000 Can we name these red cities?

00:10:13.000 Have you heard of these red cities?

00:10:14.000 There are no red cities.

00:10:16.000 And even in some of the large cities where you may nominally have a Republican mayor or New York's got an independent right now, like this city is still blue.

00:10:27.000 It's still, it's still very, very blue.

00:10:29.000 The point being is, is they've allowed that, you know, blueness or whatever, the liberalism and soft on crime approach because you have to consider the rights and the interests of the criminal actually coming before the rights of tourists, citizens, children, family.

00:10:47.000 Think about New York, but any of those people who actually have much more of a right to those streets than the criminal does.

00:10:55.000 Look at San Francisco, look at many of these places where you have junkies in the street in a zombie-like state.

00:11:02.000 You guys remember seeing all those videos?

00:11:04.000 They're going through, they're scanning them, and these guys are just hanging there like it's nine of the living.

00:11:04.000 Of course.

00:11:09.000 I'm from the Philly area, and we've got a place like that called Kensington, and they actually refer to it now as Kensington Beach.

00:11:17.000 And you can go on Instagram and find Kensington Beach accounts or whatever, and you can get like t-shirts that say Kensington Beach, because there are so many people laying out that it looks like they're at the beach, because it looks like they're suntaining or something.

00:11:29.000 Well, let me ask you something.

00:11:30.000 Don't you consider it I know it's not constitutional treason.

00:11:33.000 But in your mind, isn't it somewhat treasonist that the mayors of these cities and governors of these states essentially are soft on crime in order to placate a minority, a minority group whose votes they want? 0.57

00:11:45.000 It's part of them bribing the electorate, right?

00:11:48.000 And so the idea that, hey, I'm going to send the military in because you won't do your job, which we saw during the California riots, I watched them every single night live, covered them on multiple cameras.

00:11:58.000 We were watching them get into fights with the police, burning the squad cars, setting fires.

00:12:03.000 We would call it dumpster mo, the next dumpster mo, when they would put the dumpsters up and start fighting, right?

00:12:09.000 They told the police obviously to stand down.

00:12:11.000 What I mean, we were watching it.

00:12:12.000 They told him to stand down, don't do anything.

00:12:14.000 Right.

00:12:15.000 Let them do what they're doing until Trump sent in the Marines and that that put a stop to it.

00:12:20.000 And their little day of rage didn't really go off as well as they had hoped because there was some some military there taking care of it.

00:12:26.000 And it's like at some point we're going to have to look at this and say, if these guys won't enforce the laws and we're losing, you know, four, six, ten, twelve, sixteen people a day, eventually someone's going to have to put an end to the carnage.

00:12:40.000 How much do you think that it's, how much do you think that it's about the voters in the, you know, specific metropolitan areas or whatever?

00:12:47.000 And how or versus how much do you think?

00:12:49.000 it's about actually placing people in a PR move?

00:12:52.000 Because I feel like it's both.

00:12:54.000 Because I feel like it's not one is not excluding the other.

00:12:56.000 The thing is, Democrats work in unison for national campaign PR.

00:13:00.000 You're right about that.

00:13:01.000 There's no doubt about that.

00:13:02.000 But you still also have your localized elections.

00:13:05.000 And the truth is, that they are pandering to minority groups as much as possible for lighter sentences, things like this.

00:13:12.000 So they seem to want to move towards rehabilitation, even though there's no rehabilitation going on in Philadelphia.

00:13:17.000 No matter how bad the murder rate has gotten, Larry Krasner, the Soros DA, just keeps getting reelected over and over and over.

00:13:25.000 So I think this speaks to what you're saying, that it's in a very odd way of putting it, they keep voting for murder.

00:13:32.000 Wouldn't that be a lot of that have to do with outside money and outside influence though?

00:13:36.000 Yeah, NGOs, of course.

00:13:37.000 NGOs are involved.

00:13:38.000 Well, I mean, it's Deesaurus DA.

00:13:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:41.000 I mean, NGOs are always involved in this, you know what I mean?

00:13:44.000 But the question here, what we're moving down to is this, if these people will not stop this, if these Democrats won't stop it, how does it get stopped?

00:13:54.000 Part of the reason why I ask that and I push back on the idea is just because you see so many videos coming out of DC where people that are actual residents that are like, this is great.

00:14:03.000 I can drive around in my car with the window open in the summer and I don't feel like, blah, blah, blah.

00:14:10.000 There are a lot of people that are posting these things on the internet saying, look, it's much safer.

00:14:14.000 And I know that the people that are most upset about crime in a area are the people that live there.

00:14:20.000 So I feel like there's, I mean, not that I've done any kind of, you know, any kind of surveys or deep dive on this.

00:14:27.000 This doesn't feel like pushback.

00:14:28.000 This is like, okay, so fine.

00:14:30.000 I just want to unpack it.

00:14:31.000 I just want to unpack it.

00:14:32.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:33.000 What you're highlighting though, what you're highlighting is that there's a disconnect between the actual experience and the interests of the citizens and the preference reflected.

00:14:44.000 Yeah, if they're getting good results from this policy.

00:14:47.000 Why don't they vote for this policy when they have the chance?

00:14:49.000 Well, also the people that are being disenfranchised the most when these cities fall apart are the people in the suburbs, because those are the descendants of people that were driven out of those cities a few decades back.

00:14:58.000 I wanted to ask you an incredible point, but I also want to ask you about your conversation with Nick Sorator.

00:15:02.000 So you were talking about DC, so obviously DC now, the president could do more there.

00:15:08.000 It's a federal district.

00:15:09.000 It's not a state.

00:15:10.000 It is a federal city, so he can do more.

00:15:13.000 But that being said, it will give us, I think, some clue as to the sort of things that we might be seeing in Chicago and these other nineteen cities.

00:15:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:20.000 I mean, the point he made was obviously there's no clear pathway, like for example, to Chicago.

00:15:24.000 He said something that could be a possibility to make this work would be if the Cook County Sheriff deputy federal agents.

00:15:30.000 But once again, that all depends on who the sheriff is of the county.

00:15:33.000 Well, it still comes down to, so the way I understand most of it is that it still comes down to if you're in for so federal agents can always, always obviously be involved in enforcing federal law.

00:15:46.000 So if you can find a nexus, like say, I don't know, gun trafficking or something or ATF where they're, you know, they're breaking gun law.

00:15:53.000 Interstate commerce.

00:15:54.000 Interstate commerce.

00:15:55.000 Now all of a sudden, well just interstate, like the second you go interstate becomes federal, right?

00:15:59.000 So the second the gun leaves the border, now it's a federalal crime.

00:15:59.000 Right.

00:16:03.000 Now they can get, yeah, now they can get, uh, they can get involved.

00:16:07.000 And so, yeah, that's, that's one reasonable pathway.

00:16:10.000 Um, the truth is, though, it's like, what I saw during those riots was just the show of force calmed things way down.

00:16:19.000 Not at first, at first, you know, people wanted to make an example of it, and so they wanted to go fight with the, uh, the Marines, but that didn't last very long.

00:16:26.000 And it did seem like it calmed that entire order down very, very quickly.

00:16:29.000 We were very disappointed, you know, this big heyday.

00:16:33.000 We all had our popcorn, you know, we all had our beer.

00:16:35.000 We were live.

00:16:36.000 I was there with the audience, and we're like, this is it, boys.

00:16:39.000 We're fin going to watch them get wrecked in the streets.

00:16:41.000 This is going to be and they just stood down.

00:16:43.000 It was and it's because the Marines were there.

00:16:45.000 It was beyond that.

00:16:45.000 It was like a demoralization effect because they realized, oh, there's three more years of this.

00:16:48.000 We're not going to stop.

00:16:49.000 Yeah, we're not going to stop this.

00:16:51.000 Huge change from the Summer of Love where they felt like, okay, we have our foot on the gas and there's a year of the counter PR, like to your point, the counter PR is the progressives are going to say, these are Nazi stormtroopers who are coming in from a fascist president and the whole idea is to seize power.

00:17:06.000 They can't tell you the path to that though, right?

00:17:09.000 Because there is no path.

00:17:10.000 There is no path to how President Trump mobilizes the guard for crime-ridden areas and then takes control of the country.

00:17:18.000 They can never tell you that part of the country.

00:17:18.000 They can never tell you that part of it because they're just they're just making it up.

00:17:23.000 The truth is, this country has been riddled.

00:17:26.000 Some of these places have been riddled so badly, like you said, you can't have your window open.

00:17:31.000 There are places my wife won't go that she's not going to go any of those places in some of these major cities and that's in Michigan. 1.00

00:17:38.000 Chicago is not that far away.

00:17:39.000 And yeah, man, they're they're taking people out there left and right.

00:17:42.000 Tate makes a point frequently that we're kind of a vibes based country, like the United States really, really kind of votes and acts based on how they feel far less than actual evidence or whatever.

00:17:55.000 And I think that I think he's right.

00:17:57.000 and I think that it works both for the right and for the left.

00:18:00.000 Like the left has the vibe that Donald Trump is this authoritarian.

00:18:05.000 And look, anything that they can come up with that confirms their feelings or how they, you know, their preconceived notions, they're going to say, look, this is it. 0.64

00:18:13.000 This is all I mean, how many times have you seen someone from the left write a, excuse me, a think piece about how bad Donald Trump is and how he's a Nazi and stuff.

00:18:22.000 And it doesn't matter what the policy is, everything confirms their preconceived notion.

00:18:26.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:18:27.000 So you're talking about people giving in to intuition over reason and logic.

00:18:31.000 Yeah, I understand.

00:18:32.000 But you still have to temper.

00:18:34.000 One of the best ways to temper that PR is with them. 0.99

00:18:36.000 They don't have to do shit. 0.98

00:18:37.000 Well, they don't have to., but I mean, the appeal to the electorate is we still do have to use some sort of reason here. 0.99

00:18:43.000 And I always ask progressives the same thing.

00:18:45.000 Show me the path.

00:18:47.000 Show me the path for how Donald Trump mobilized the military to seize control of the country.

00:18:51.000 First of all, there's no way generals would ever go for that in a million years or commanding officers or anybody else.

00:18:57.000 They're simply going in to try to do something about these crime-ridden areas, which is a thing Trump talked about in his first term on his very first speech when he said American carnage is over.

00:19:08.000 He's been wanting to do this for a long time.

00:19:10.000 So I don't even know what they're freaking out about.

00:19:12.000 I would even go a step further.

00:19:14.000 I've been kind of talking about this thing behind the scenes., I wrote this piece, not too long ago, talking about how Trump is a city conservative and that city conservatives are just functionally and fundamentally different from rural conservatives.

00:19:28.000 And people are saying, like, are you saying they're better?

00:19:30.000 No, no, no, I'm not saying anyone's better or formed differently.

00:19:32.000 It's just that, yeah, they're formed differently.

00:19:35.000 It's that Donald Trump and the MAGA movement, you know, the MAGA movement was born on a golden escalator on Fifth Avenue, New York City, which is just fundamentally different than sort of the George W. Bush conservatism, which evokes this kind of, you know, like a small town esthetic and a pickup truck and a six-pack.

00:19:54.000 And yeah, those are all cool things, but they're just fundamentally different.

00:19:57.000 And whereas the City Conservative, it really is more law and order focused.

00:20:02.000 And I actually remember Trump.

00:20:03.000 Well, it has to be.

00:20:05.000 Yeah, he mentions once that it was the Freddie Gray riots back in 2015 and Melania, when they were burning Baltimore down, and Melania was watching that with him and she said, and he had been kind of kicking around, okay, 2016, do I want to run?

00:20:21.000 He hadn't in 2012 and they were watching that on TV and her turning to him and just saying, look at this, you have to run.

00:20:28.000 And it was so it was those images of the breakdown of law and order because in order.

00:20:33.000 for a city to be a city, right, in order for a city to be formed, it has to be, you know, it has to be red coded right at the very beginning, or else, you know, I'm sorry, like the Libs, you're not going to build a city. 0.96

00:20:44.000 Like you just, you never will.

00:20:46.000 It's not going to happen.

00:20:47.000 And you need to have those laws to establish that order from the chaos to begin with, or else you're just going to get chaos, which is what we have now.

00:20:54.000 And so the city conservative is basically formed and activated by having all of that stolen from them, and they're fighting to get it back, but it's rather than conserving.

00:21:04.000 But isn't what's happened, what usually happens here is when they send troops or anything like this or even feds to come in and try to put an end to carnage going on in a major city.

00:21:04.000 Yeah.

00:21:16.000 You have small splinter cell groups like Antifa, things like this, who are NGO funded, even though we can't seem to find the NGOs.

00:21:24.000 They're NGO funded.

00:21:26.000 Don't they go in and purposely agitate in order to make it seem like the people are really against this, that people hate this, this is really fascist and oppressive and this.

00:21:35.000 They're always trying to optically make it seem that way, even if it's really not that way.

00:21:40.000 I think it's a great point.

00:21:41.000 I think you're going to get, I think you're definitely going to see an activation of Antifa groups in, especially in places, Portland, Seattle, probably Chicago as well.

00:21:49.000 People in Seattle have to do that when Kyle Rittenhouse happened, and even though that was Kenosha, they were driven up from Chicago.

00:21:58.000 So that was all groups of people from Chicago that had gone to Kenosha.

00:22:02.000 So there are pretty sizable and well formed organizations still there, and unfortunately, with the exception of Georgia, which I've actually said, Governor Kemp in Georgia has done a great job of rolling these guys up.

00:22:15.000 And so Georgia is the one example you're mentioning the NGOs.

00:22:17.000 They actually went after the NGOs.

00:22:19.000 They went after the bundlers when they were going after that cop city training center they were talking about.

00:22:26.000 And they rolled up all of these people that were raising money for Antifa.

00:22:30.000 And yes, what, you know, what a surprise.

00:22:33.000 They were actually finding NGOs, quasi legal groups that were funding all of it.

00:22:38.000 Of course.

00:22:39.000 So that hasn't been done nationwide.

00:22:40.000 And the purpose is to be able to do that.

00:22:42.000 And you're going to see a reaction.

00:22:42.000 You're going to see for optics, right?

00:22:44.000 And there could be something here, and I'm glad you bring this up to kind of draw that poison out, right?

00:22:49.000 Another way for us to maybe start following the money back to other NGOs who are funding these types of groups.

00:22:56.000 And yes, the idea here, they are going to try to make it an optical disaster by agitating whoever comes in to enforce law and order and make it seem like these are fascists.

00:23:08.000 They're here to take your rights and beat you in the streets and things like this when actually they're agitating the law enforcement, right?

00:23:16.000 So I agree, Andrew, with your take on these mayors and governors being treasonous.

00:23:20.000 And that's a good reason to go into these cities and clean them up.

00:23:23.000 I'm also for tactical strikes against riots, but I am uneasy cheering on military presence in these cities if it's a sustained presence.

00:23:32.000 And because I'm not confident that the right's going to hold power after Trump.

00:23:35.000 And I see these people...

00:23:45.000 I was in New York in 2020.

00:23:48.000 And they were trying to pass a bill where they could just rip me out of my house, you know?

00:23:51.000 So that's like, that's my only problem with something like this is what they can do with this precedence in the future.

00:23:59.000 Well, let me ask you a question then.

00:24:00.000 I understand your concern.

00:24:02.000 I mean, to your point though, it's not just a precedent that Trump is setting because they were doing this during COVID, right?

00:24:08.000 So you already had Democrat governor Tim Waltz, you know, was sending around stuff to enforce these lockdowns.

00:24:13.000 And you can all see videos about this.

00:24:15.000 So it's on a state level.

00:24:16.000 On a state level, right?

00:24:17.000 They weren't, Biden didn't send out the military to this degree.

00:24:21.000 He did in DC.

00:24:22.000 In DC, which is, I'm fine with DC.

00:24:24.000 I have no problem with DC, because it's DC.

00:24:26.000 Well, just to ask you a quick question, Steelman, you're not in disagreement with Ari Vega.

00:24:30.000 I'm just saying I think the president is kind of already.

00:24:32.000 You're saying, hey, look, if the military is deployed, now we have a precedent possibly against Posse Comitatis, something like this.

00:24:38.000 And so that could carry over to Democratic administrations, which are then used to oppress you, that's the basic position.

00:24:43.000 My question to you would just be, what would you even think of as an alternative that the president could do from a law enforcement perspective to enforce any of the laws in these places where dozens of people in some cases are murdered daily?

00:24:58.000 Yeah, I know.

00:24:59.000 And I do want these safer cities, but I see it having to happen at a local level.

00:25:03.000 And making the people, unfortunately, have to vote for a better mayor like we had in Giuliani.

00:25:06.000 We had it in Giuliani.

00:25:40.000 The local people, the people voting.

00:25:42.000 How does the president affect that?

00:25:44.000 I'm saying the president should be out.

00:25:44.000 The president should.

00:25:46.000 But this is, but this he's in.

00:25:47.000 So this is the one thing he can do, which is within his power to do.

00:25:51.000 And if these treasonist local officials refuse to enforce the laws because they get stand-down orders from Democrats who are in the pockets of NGOs and everything else we just talked about, what else can he actually do at his disposal to stop that?

00:26:04.000 Well, yeah, if we can all agree that it is treason, and I think these governors are collapsing these places on purpose because they want it's a war against the country.

00:26:12.000 If we can all get along with that, then it is a war.

00:26:14.000 Well, they have to.

00:26:15.000 I think we've been in a war without even defending ourselves.

00:26:17.000 We're not going to get along with that, right?

00:26:18.000 But what they have they have already begun in some cases, you know, when you're talking about the lack of enforcement or refusing to enforce immigration laws, we've already seen indictments against mayors.

00:26:30.000 Yeah.

00:26:30.000 And potentially you could see more of that.

00:26:32.000 And I think when it comes down to this immigration law and not just and, you know, refusal to follow, but even aiding and abetting, if you're someone who's done that, and it's been some smaller cases now, but I think that you could roll that out depending on what's done, right?

00:26:47.000 If someone is to really cross that line.

00:26:49.000 But these guys are within their authority to do this.

00:26:51.000 They're within their authority to not enforce laws or give more minimum.

00:26:55.000 That's the same thing if they cross the line.

00:26:57.000 Yeah, but where's the line?

00:26:58.000 Like how many dozens more need to be dead daily before we move to this line?

00:27:01.000 This is what I'm saying is like from the president down, the president of the United States, he has access to the soldiers of the United States.

00:27:09.000 He's a commander in chief, okay?

00:27:10.000 And he can deploy them foreign and domestic for whatever threat comes up for the most part.

00:27:15.000 Even without an act of Congress.

00:27:17.000 What else could he personally?

00:27:19.000 Yeah, not actually do.

00:27:20.000 He can't actually do the framing of this is kind of ridiculous because they say, oh, Trump is doing this.

00:27:26.000 Trump is sending this.

00:27:27.000 It's all Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump focused.

00:27:30.000 And even, even us doing that.

00:27:32.000 What is he dealing with?

00:27:33.000 He's dealing with the crime epidemic that's going on in our country right now.

00:27:37.000 And ICE is dealing with the migrant crisis that is going on in our cities right now, both of which are interrelated for how that works.

00:27:46.000 It's amazing, right?

00:27:47.000 So our cities are overflowing.

00:27:50.000 This is causing crime.

00:27:51.000 There's also these transnational narco-terror groups that are involved.

00:27:55.000 In fact, I believe Stephen Miller mentioned earlier this morning in one of the briefings that they've, as they've taken a more of a look at Washington, DC, they're even finding a direct, this is going to sound crazy guys, but did you know that the street gangs in our cities are getting their drugs from drug cartels?

00:28:15.000 No way.

00:28:17.000 What about slow down?

00:28:18.000 Yeah, what about slow down?

00:28:20.000 You don't go to the corner store like everyone else?

00:28:22.000 I know.

00:28:22.000 Jimmy Doerr did a great piece.

00:28:25.000 Everyone should go watch it, whether you like Jimmy Doerr or not.

00:28:27.000 He did a great piece on what's going on in DC and how they change the category of what crime is to make it look like crime has been going down.

00:28:35.000 Exactly.

00:28:36.000 Violent crime when it actually hasn't.

00:28:38.000 And then he had, it's a great video.

00:28:41.000 You can find it on his channel.

00:28:43.000 I was just reviewing it, I think, two days ago.

00:28:46.000 But what they do is, you gotta, like with crime, it's all definitional, right?

00:28:50.000 Right.

00:28:50.000 So you just change the definition and then you could add percentages to this other definition., which should really go in this other violent category.

00:28:58.000 And through this, they were able to kind of show to the public, well, crime is actually decreasing, well, violent crime when it's not actually decreasing.

00:29:06.000 Literally the plot of the wire.

00:29:08.000 Yeah, and the the the the whole thing is just nonsense.

00:29:10.000 And so the the question becomes again, and this is the one I always come back to and that I just I have never gotten a good answer on because I don't think there is one, right?

00:29:19.000 It's like no offense to you, there's just not a good answer for this.

00:29:22.000 What do you do if you have treasonist Democrats in charge of these cities and in charge of even these states who refuse to enforce the laws or add new minimums for the purposes of placating, you know, a minority constituency for the purpose of national PR, other than sending the troops to enforce the law.

00:29:43.000 Our citizens are still suffering there.

00:29:45.000 Our citizens are still getting killed.

00:29:47.000 In fact, he is the president of all American citizens.

00:29:49.000 Yeah.

00:29:49.000 So he, they have an obligation to do this, right?

00:29:52.000 Like if he doesn't have the obligation, who does?

00:29:55.000 No, and it's very clear to your point, Shane, about, you know, what Giuliani did in New York, the broken windows, that he's obviously, who was very closely related to Giuliani at the time, that they were working together.

00:30:07.000 He was sort of, you know, obviously on the economic side, Giuliani on the law enforcement side, but they turned New York from the taxi driver in New York and Robert De Niro to this like amusement park and specifically Times Square.

00:30:21.000 And everybody wants to go, but not that long ago within living memory for, I would say most people, it was not like that.

00:30:30.000 And it was like that. 0.99

00:30:31.000 It became that way because Cooper's getting kissed on the penis by Kathy Griffin in Times Square. 1.00

00:30:38.000 Yeah, right. 1.00

00:30:39.000 And you're right.

00:30:40.000 I mean, you're right about that.

00:30:41.000 So he's clearly just trying to find a way to do that in every city.

00:30:47.000 It's very clear that that played a huge role in his, you know, in his upbringing, in his life, and he wants to be able to do that.

00:30:54.000 Well, and I think that you bring up a legitimate concern.

00:30:54.000 I think that's obvious.

00:30:57.000 It is a legitimate concern. 0.98

00:30:58.000 I can foresee how this could possibly come back to bite Republicans in the ass if it's the case that we set the precedent and then they're like, ha ha ha ha ha ha, now it's being used. 0.95

00:31:08.000 But I never want to say, let's not do something because, oh, what if the left is exactly to that point? 0.96

00:31:13.000 Because, like, well, the thing is the left is, they're not going to do it.

00:31:16.000 The left has already proven that they will do things that are out of the realm of normal.

00:31:20.000 They don't care about precedent.

00:31:22.000 They don't care about what they don't care even about what's legal.

00:31:24.000 They were arresting President Trump's, uh, uh, his lawyers.

00:31:27.000 So if they don't care, and then your reason to not exercise power when you have it is, oh, well, the dems will, they're going to do it anyway.

00:31:36.000 Well, come on, the rhetoric led to Trump almost being assassinated.

00:31:38.000 I mean, they literally tried to take him out.

00:31:38.000 Yeah.

00:31:40.000 Well, I'm thinking, guys, I'm thinking that since we are talking about what the dems might be doing and we're talking about riots and talking about inciting violence in cities, this could possibly lend us to segue into our next topic, which is on flag burning.

00:31:57.000 Hard, hard, hard, hard, hard segue there. 0.71

00:31:57.000 Nice. 0.71

00:31:59.000 I was saying that was well done.

00:32:00.000 Thank you, thank you.

00:32:01.000 Well, so here's what's interesting about this because because so they signed this new executive order this morning, the president signs it prosecuting the burning of the American flag.

00:32:09.000 And people say, whoa, whoa, I was told the Supreme Court said that was totally cool.

00:32:15.000 You know, that's a bedrock lifelong American value all the way back to the founding fathers of 1989 when this agreement came down for the Supreme Court, when the ruling came down.

00:32:28.000 But what's interesting is about, because I've actually gone through and read the executive order, which I don't think most people have, and it specifically talks about, and this is interesting, groups of foreign nationals burning the American flag as a calculated act to intimidate and threaten violence against Americans because of their nationality and place of birth. 0.55

00:32:50.000 Talking about the California riots.

00:32:51.000 Right, the California riots and American as a nationality and America as a place of birth.

00:32:58.000 So we are the only country in the world where we allow foreign nationals to come in and burn our flag and say they're perfectly allowed to do this while intimidating and threatening us. 1.00

00:33:05.000 They made hybrid flags, remember?

00:33:07.000 Right.

00:33:07.000 And California they made a hybrid flag, mixing the Mexican flag and the American flag.

00:33:11.000 Oh, right.

00:33:12.000 Yeah.

00:33:13.000 So they've done everything possible to desecrate and demoralize the American public through flag burning, through the destruction of the symbols that we care about.

00:33:23.000 Absolutely.

00:33:24.000 And again, I don't want to hear anything about freedom of speech.

00:33:27.000 These guys are tearing down monuments.

00:33:28.000 They tear down the Confederate flag in the South. 0.99

00:33:30.000 They don't give a shit about freedom of speech. 0.98

00:33:32.000 Well, they, yeah, they prosecute you if you do a burnout on the corridor. 0.99

00:33:36.000 Yeah, that's a totally different story.

00:33:38.000 Wait, wait, before we get to all this, before we do this, which I want, which I definitely want to get to, I want to point out that people are saying, how is he getting around the Supreme Court decision, right?

00:33:46.000 And it's just obviously, obviously incorrect.

00:33:49.000 You see, ah, ah, but what they've done is they're saying, notwithstanding the Supreme Court's rulings on First Amendment protections, the court has never held that American flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action or that is an action amounting to quote fighting words is constitutionally protected.

00:34:10.000 So it seems like what and it's just my kind of lay reading on it.

00:34:14.000 I don't think any of us are lawyers that, you know, let's say you're burning, you buy a flag, Amazon, whatever, you bring it to your house, you decide to burn your flag in act of protest.

00:34:25.000 This wouldn't cover that, but what it would cover is all of the other instances that we're talking about.

00:34:29.000 Yeah, like them burning it in the middle of the street, starting fires in California with the flags and things like this, which they were doing.

00:34:35.000 They would just argue.

00:34:36.000 This is also an illegal case.

00:34:37.000 They would just argue, well, that would already fall under arson laws., why do you need this law?

00:34:41.000 Well, the thing is, it's like you are correct.

00:34:43.000 What they're saying here is, if it's the case that we can see that you're doing this in a manner that looks like incitement, now we can get you for incitement.

00:34:52.000 It's not just burning the flag any more, right?

00:34:54.000 We're going to go out.

00:34:55.000 Now, this is a workaround.

00:34:58.000 I agree that that's kind of what they're doing by holding up the Supreme Court decision here and saying we're going to work around and actually cit it.

00:35:04.000 I don't think it goes far enough.

00:35:06.000 I would like to see it repealed.

00:35:07.000 If you burn the American flag in America, you need to be dealt with.

00:35:13.000 It's a traitor's act.

00:35:14.000 It's a treasonist act as far as I'm concerned.

00:35:17.000 It's a seditious act at the very least., and I have no idea why we want to import millions of people who then go to California, make a hybrid flag, start fires and burn our flag.

00:35:26.000 It's crazy.

00:35:27.000 You mentioned real quick, you mentioned it was demoralizing.

00:35:30.000 Unpack that.

00:35:30.000 Yes.

00:35:31.000 Yeah.

00:35:32.000 So this is the main thing.

00:35:32.000 Well, okay.

00:35:33.000 So all of the flag burning with the media in front of it, this type of thing, the entirety of it is to show America's in ashes, right?

00:35:42.000 They're going to get that snapshot and they're going to put the perfect filter on it.

00:35:45.000 They're going to put the perfect background there with the filter that shows the American flag burning.

00:35:49.000 And the whole point of it is to say America's on fire.

00:35:52.000 We're at, we're at the precipice.

00:35:54.000 We're at the brink.

00:35:55.000 And the whole thing is to kind of keep the country in this idea of turmoil, this consistent idea of turmoil, never ending turmoil, never ending color revolution. 0.95

00:36:06.000 It's designed specifically to demoralize.

00:36:08.000 Why do you think they give them out?

00:36:09.000 They give them out with lighters.

00:36:10.000 We were watching the California riots.

00:36:13.000 People would heap garbage in the middle of the road, and a masked guy would come by, and out of his pocket, he'd pull out lighter fluid, spray the lighter fluid all over it, light it, and then walk off.

00:36:21.000 Where the hell are these guys getting all of this?

00:36:23.000 They came totally prepared to start arsonist fires, right?

00:36:27.000 That's what they were prepared to do.

00:36:29.000 All of it's designed to be demoralizing to the American public, and it's always been designed to be demoralizing to the public.

00:36:35.000 Look, if you value something, you would...

00:36:41.000 I was tweeting about this earlier today.

00:36:43.000 I saw some of your stuff about this.

00:36:44.000 I couldn't agree more.

00:36:46.000 I think that I do think that this will be a test of the Supreme Court.

00:36:51.000 I also think that it's kind of ridiculous to say that it is a 20th century notion, a very modern notion to think that the First Amendment covers this kind of activity.

00:37:01.000 This political expression was very well known to the founding fathers and the founding generation.

00:37:06.000 They would tar and feather people, right? 0.85

00:37:08.000 They knew the difference between speech and expression. 0.99

00:37:11.000 As it turns out, our ancestors were not stupid. 0.96

00:37:14.000 And our, you know, our forefathers in this case. 0.99

00:37:16.000 I mean, honestly, they would have shot these people.

00:37:18.000 You know, not kidding. 0.94

00:37:19.000 No, they would have.

00:37:20.000 Most of this, the understanding was most of this was done, was left to the states.

00:37:26.000 This was a tenth amendment protection.

00:37:27.000 And it turns out that, by the way, pretty much, I think of 48 of the states at one point, all had flag desecration laws.

00:37:34.000 And this was totally accepted throughout pretty much all of American history right up until 1989.

00:37:40.000 Oh, they had blasphemy laws on the book.

00:37:41.000 They had blasphemy laws or something?

00:37:43.000 All the way to the nineteenth century they had them.

00:37:45.000 Yeah.

00:37:45.000 You make, you make a great point here with symbolism and the idea of the American symbol.

00:37:49.000 So I think of it this way.

00:37:50.000 Symbolism is everywhere.

00:37:51.000 It's like when you have these, it's like when you have two kids in the one, they're putting their f finger really close to the other kid and they're like, I'm not touching you.

00:37:57.000 I'm not touching you.

00:37:58.000 I'm not touching you.

00:37:59.000 And they do it for hours and finally the other kid just belt him.

00:38:03.000 Can you believe he did that?

00:38:04.000 I never touched him.

00:38:05.000 Can you believe he did?

00:38:06.000 I never actually did anything wrong.

00:38:07.000 Can you believe he and of course what happens is this is the same thing.

00:38:10.000 The idea here is we're not doing anything wrong.

00:38:13.000 Look, we're not doing anything wrong. 0.88

00:38:14.000 Shove it in your face as much as possible. 0.98

00:38:16.000 They're going to burn down everything you love, burn down your symbols, face them and try to demoralize you. 0.96

00:38:21.000 And you go, well, we're going to pass a law that you can't do that anymore. 0.99

00:38:24.000 I can't believe that you're a totalitarian fascist. 0.96

00:38:27.000 I want to see. 0.98

00:38:28.000 Is there anyone, sir, check the chat.

00:38:30.000 Is there anyone who disagrees?

00:38:32.000 I was just I was in the chat saying like, Stephanie, we're like, Oh, well, it's not actually a crime.

00:38:38.000 It's actually, guys, it's not actually a crime to burn the flag.

00:38:40.000 Actually, did you know that it's not actually a crime to burn the flag, which is just talking about this whole midwintery thing we're talking about before the show, like, where it's like, Yeah, okay, we know it's not a crime.

00:38:50.000 Like, we shouldn't be encouraging or allowing everyone to do it en masse at every protest across the country.

00:38:55.000 I just see them in the chat, like, Yeah, that's one of the things.

00:38:57.000 I definitely disagree.

00:38:58.000 I don't I don't want the flag to be burned, but I it's like my last, my last argument.

00:39:03.000 I just think I'm the right.

00:39:04.000 I just think you have that right to burn it in the street if you want.

00:39:07.000 That's what Johnson was doing.

00:39:08.000 Yeah, I've got a little more nuanced tas take than Shane.

00:39:12.000 I think that as a, like, if you've got someone with a green card or something like that, or someone that's not a citizen, then that should be grounds to revoke their green card, send them back.

00:39:22.000 But personally, I think any reason that you can get to revoke green cards and send people back is fine with me. 0.89

00:39:29.000 I like the idea of people being able to do it so you know who the bad guys are.

00:39:33.000 The same reason that I like freedom of speech.

00:39:35.000 So people will tell you the bad things, tell you the things that, you know, will say the things.

00:39:41.000 Can you make that argument for all crime though?

00:39:42.000 Pardon me?

00:39:43.000 Couldn't you make that argument for like, who's a murderer?

00:39:46.000 No, ha, there's the murderer.

00:39:47.000 Look at him killing that child.

00:39:49.000 Because, I mean, because the reason being is because this is, this is something that will happen at protests, something that will happen in, in certain contexts.

00:39:57.000 I mean, but I mean, regardless of who's the bad guy, even if, even if there's confusion, even if who's the bad guy, it's not always the same people.

00:40:06.000 I think they would still do it, regardless of what the law is.

00:40:08.000 To expand it to all crime is not to expand it to all crime really misses the point.

00:40:13.000 The point is, it's fine if people want, like, I don't have a problem with people that want to, or I don't have a problem with people burning the flag, right?

00:40:21.000 Because it's, if it's their own property or whatever, I don't have a problem with it.

00:40:24.000 There is a freedom of speech argument in my opinion.

00:40:26.000 But also, I like the idea of being able to, you know, people that actually have bad ideas and have bad motivations.

00:40:33.000 I like those people feeling like they can speak out so you can identify.

00:40:36.000 But it's not always the bad people burning the flag.

00:40:38.000 It could be a Marine like Smedley Butler who is against going to war and he's out burning the flag.

00:40:42.000 But the context for me is what changes.

00:40:44.000 Are Marines out burning flags?

00:40:46.000 There have been veterans burning flags for a long time.

00:40:47.000 Yeah, the thing is, he's like, and it doesn't mean they're Marxists.

00:40:49.000 It doesn't mean they're Marxists.

00:40:51.000 I think it's a rarity.

00:40:52.000 But the thing is, if you have Well, I'll steal man your argument a little bit.

00:40:58.000 I think in the Vietnam War era is really when this really came.

00:41:01.000 Yeah, because a bunch of hippies, because a bunch of hippies who again were backed by massive communist NGOs and anybody who looks at the 60s era can see the infiltration of feminism, the NGOs, via Rockefeller Foundation.

00:41:16.000 That has nothing to do with not wanting to go to war.

00:41:18.000 Well, I agree with that.

00:41:20.000 Hang on, it kinda did.

00:41:22.000 It was all tied in together.

00:41:23.000 Right, but doesn't mean but you're supporting feminism by not wanting to go to war. 1.00

00:41:27.000 No, I agree with that.

00:41:28.000 I'm just saying that all of this was tied in as a SYOP essentially.

00:41:31.000 And all I would point out is this.

00:41:33.000 You don't take the most powerful symbol that you can get behind that men have run behind.

00:41:38.000 One of the most kind of like if you look at that, the Iwo Jima, that statue of Iwo Jima, right?

00:41:45.000 The guy has the flag up and there'ss our flag is our most sacred.

00:41:48.000 For six hundred years, I would say it should be the cross. 0.99

00:41:50.000 It's enshrined as this thing.

00:41:52.000 The reason it's on the military uniform going the opposite direction is because it's supposed to emulate as a soldier's running the flags blowing behind him, right?

00:42:01.000 It's such a powerful patriotic motivator and a powerful glue that holds society together.

00:42:07.000 These people erode those things.

00:42:09.000 That's what LGBTQ is always about. 1.00

00:42:11.000 It's what all this stuff is about is the erosion of the symbols of the things that are well and you can.

00:42:16.000 And it's like, no, you can't burn them. 0.99

00:42:18.000 You go to fucking jail. 0.99

00:42:19.000 And the way that you can prove this test, by the way, of what you're saying in the fact that it's not just erosion, but it's also replacement, right? 1.00

00:42:19.000 Good. 1.00

00:42:27.000 So replace, we're replacing your symbols of power, your sacred totems, with ours.

00:42:33.000 And so in the same token, by the same vector, you go to any lib, any leftist, and we all know what I'm going to say, but I have to say it anyway because I'm hosting the show, is okay, would you, would you hold the same for an LGBT flag or one of those Pride crosswalks or a trans flag or just, you know, pick any other of your hodgepodge of flags that they all have, you know, at any coffee shop, by the way.

00:42:53.000 Well, no, they would say, by the way, what about it?

00:42:54.000 But there shouldn't be.

00:42:55.000 They would say, that's my pre pre pre pre, I mean, I could say there shouldn't be.

00:42:57.000 I mean, I could say there shouldn't be.

00:42:59.000 And they would say, you should be arrested.

00:43:00.000 But in many states, you can't name your kid Adolf H Hitler. 0.99

00:43:00.000 You should burn those too. 0.99

00:43:03.000 Where are the liberals? 0.99

00:43:04.000 Where are the liberals running out and saying, We demand you to be able to name your child Adolf Hitler?

00:43:09.000 They're nowhere.

00:43:11.000 It just rolls off the tongue.

00:43:12.000 And also, like, nowhere.

00:43:13.000 Go ahead, go ahead.

00:43:14.000 I was just saying also, it's like, for me, like, I'm 24, so every time in my entire life I've seen someone burn a flag, it's one to one with people that hate me.

00:43:22.000 So it's like, I'm also kind of tired of protecting the rights of people that hate me, like, all the time.

00:43:25.000 Because I'm okay with protecting the other way around people that hate me.

00:43:27.000 I'm not.

00:43:28.000 It's most of this country.

00:43:29.000 After what they've done to me, I don't.

00:43:31.000 But, I mean, I would even push back on the idea that it's a quote, unquote, right.

00:43:36.000 It depends.

00:43:36.000 Because how are you going to, how are they going to define likely to incite?

00:43:39.000 Like, that could be very vague.

00:43:41.000 I mean, that's pretty much all incitement.

00:43:43.000 If you're on top of a car, they're saying they were trying to say during Johnson, him burning the flag in public was going to incite violence.

00:43:50.000 They obviously didn't.

00:43:51.000 They didn't.

00:43:51.000 It didn't.

00:43:53.000 Yeah, but that isn't that an exception?

00:43:54.000 Like most of the places you see a lot of flag burning.

00:43:56.000 I don't think there's a lot of violence.

00:43:58.000 I don't think I don't think every time, but certainly a lot.

00:44:01.000 Yeah, certainly a lot.

00:44:02.000 Especially when they're tearing down the U.S. Federal Statute.

00:44:04.000 You would still need a test case, but even then, the incitement statute would still have a statutory definition.

00:44:12.000 I think the flag, the symbol of a flag burning is not going to automatically incite violence.

00:44:16.000 I think the death cult of Marxism has rotten, rotted the brains of these people that they'll take anything as a symbol to incite violence or as an excuse.

00:44:23.000 No, no, no, I don't disagree with that.

00:44:24.000 But what I'm saying is why do they use that one?

00:44:26.000 It's got a specific.

00:44:27.000 Well, they use a ton.

00:44:28.000 It's not the only thing they mostly use.

00:44:29.000 Usually, if they touch the American flag, they hiss.

00:44:32.000 They usually don't even touch it.

00:44:34.000 Usually, well, they'll touch it to burn it.

00:44:36.000 You know, in fact, I remember in the California riots, we were watching, when we were watching them live, there were multiple times where they were handing out these flags where people were saying, guys, don't wave that.

00:44:46.000 It's bad optics for us, right?

00:44:48.000 It's going to turn people against us, making this Mexico American flag. 0.63

00:44:52.000 And they ignored them.

00:44:52.000 They did it anyway.

00:44:53.000 Now, I agree.

00:44:54.000 It was an optical eyesore, you know?

00:44:56.000 But I also think that when you have symbols in a nation that help tie that nation together, the stars and stripes.

00:45:04.000 You know, we have tons of songs about this because patriotism is part of the glue.

00:45:10.000 We want, if we are legitimately attacked or assaulted, for the country to come together under a symbol.

00:45:16.000 That's the symbol.

00:45:16.000 We actually call it, refer to that as the rally around the flag.

00:45:19.000 Yeah, you don't, you don't burn it, you don't desecrate it.

00:45:23.000 And by the way, why didn't society fall apart before this ruling?

00:45:27.000 Tell me that.

00:45:28.000 How could I seem to be more free when you couldn't burn the flag than they do right now when you can?

00:45:33.000 What I find so strange about this is people say, oh, this is a bedrock right.

00:45:37.000 No, it's not.

00:45:37.000 This is a long term.

00:45:38.000 It's just, it's just, it's that's a completely ahistorical argument to make.

00:45:43.000 This is a 1989 decision by the Supreme Court.

00:45:46.000 This is the Zoomers aren't that old. 0.97

00:45:47.000 This is, yeah, exactly.

00:45:48.000 Right.

00:45:49.000 But, you know, and I've said, I've said stuff about this online and I completely agree with you.

00:45:53.000 It's the glue.

00:45:54.000 This is why we, you know, take our, you take your hat off when the Star Spangled banner is being sung.

00:45:54.000 It's our national symbol.

00:46:00.000 You put your hand over your heart.

00:46:02.000 These are natural, national civic rituals.

00:46:04.000 When I was a kid, you pledged your allegiance to what?

00:46:07.000 Pledged allegiance to the flag.

00:46:08.000 The flag of the United States of America.

00:46:10.000 I think it's okay.

00:46:11.000 I think it's okay to love this country and also hate the government and not be okay with the flag.

00:46:16.000 Because you've been enslaved.

00:46:18.000 I think you've been enslaved and destroyed by this government my whole life.

00:46:22.000 And a network of undeclared wars, and it's okay.

00:46:25.000 You have that right, despite it not being literally written in the First Amendment to say screw this.

00:46:29.000 Well, I would say that if it's not written, then how could that prayer is not in there either, and automatic rifles aren't in, and the regulation is in there.

00:46:37.000 Right, but it doesn't specifically say that.

00:46:38.000 So they keep expanding what different interpretations throughout the years.

00:46:42.000 It doesn't say that.

00:46:43.000 I mean, it just says that Congress can't make a national law that says everyone has to follow one religion.

00:46:48.000 Right, it actually doesn't say that you can't, you can ban prayer.

00:46:51.000 But my point is though, is that, is that there's no, there's nowhere in this., this is kind of like when I feel like it's when Roe v Wade was kind of read into the penumbra of the Fourth Amendment.

00:47:01.000 Where it's enshrined.

00:47:03.000 It's there, it's there.

00:47:04.000 Just look, it's enshrined.

00:47:05.000 It's like, where?

00:47:06.000 I'm reading this document over and over.

00:47:08.000 I'm looking at the statements of the founding fathers.

00:47:11.000 I don't see anything where they say, Oh yeah, it's totally cool to burn a flag.

00:47:15.000 It's so obvious.

00:47:16.000 Where is this for guns?

00:47:17.000 Where is this ever for guns?

00:47:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:19.000 When do I, people running out and being like, your right to own a machine gun shall not be infringed?

00:47:25.000 Never seen it once.

00:47:26.000 I see tons of gun controls.

00:47:28.000 I see tons of you can't have them.

00:47:29.000 I see tons of gun bands.

00:47:31.000 I never see them trying to enshrine thathrine that right.

00:47:33.000 Somehow, whatever it is, the one thing that is bad behavior to demoralize the entire public that's enshrined is an American right and it's always been that way. 0.99

00:47:41.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.75

00:47:43.000 I don't think it's a bedrock argument, but I do think it could encroach on expression that you're taking somebody's rights away when you say burning the flag is illegal. 0.99

00:47:52.000 And I say, I don't think it's a right.

00:47:54.000 I don't think it's ever been a right.

00:47:55.000 Yeah, I mean, it's because it's like when you see in the LA riots, when you saw the Mexican flags and you see that you're not thinking about the Mexican government, you're thinking about Mexican people.

00:48:03.000 And it's the same thing with the American flag.

00:48:04.000 It's like, okay, people are saying I'm protesting the government.

00:48:06.000 It's like, well, that's great, but the flag represents the people.

00:48:09.000 Like you're protesting.

00:48:10.000 the existence of the American people.

00:48:12.000 And there's a whole debate around what that identity is.

00:48:14.000 But it's like, yeah, I mean, it's like you can protest the government in other ways, but the flag is something much deeper than a federal government.

00:48:20.000 You should be able to protest however you want, though, unless you're going to hurt someone.

00:48:23.000 Unless you're lighting the flag and throwing it onto someone.

00:48:24.000 But that's the whole point of this thing is they're saying that it's incitement.

00:48:26.000 And it's like if they're likely to incite.

00:48:29.000 If you're saying I hate you and your heritage and I want to attack you by burning it, I mean, that's incitement.

00:48:33.000 That's what, what about, like, to your point though, what about the fact that this is new?

00:48:38.000 You know, he cites 1989, right?

00:48:41.000 So you're saying that all the people who came before that who honored the flag and you were not allowed to desecrate it, they were wrong and they always should have been able to burn the flag if they wanted to.

00:48:50.000 Yeah.

00:48:51.000 And you don't think that's silly?

00:48:52.000 Why?

00:48:53.000 Because the press I think there's other ways to be demoralized.

00:48:55.000 All the men who blooded and died for it, they clearly didn't die for it.

00:48:58.000 They died for it.

00:48:59.000 They desecrated.

00:49:00.000 Others died for you to do whatever to the flag.

00:49:02.000 No, they didn't die for me.

00:49:04.000 I've talked to many of them.

00:49:05.000 And that's just saying, No, I don't think soldiers went overseas to die for people's right to buttsex or to burn flags. 0.98

00:49:11.000 You're adding buttsex in there. 1.00

00:49:12.000 I don't agree with that at all.

00:49:14.000 Again, it's the same principle.

00:49:15.000 Soldiers weren't joining the military to die for people's right to burn the American flag.

00:49:19.000 That's not what I'm saying.

00:49:20.000 I'm saying that they, some of them would think that they died for expression.

00:49:23.000 Yeah, but to express what?

00:49:25.000 Express their disgust to disgust.

00:49:26.000 distaste the distrust their distrust for the government not to burn the symbol but that but look how look how emotional everyone was getting over it it's like a pretty good way to protest you I think that's a very new kind of take on the constitution.

00:49:38.000 I think it's a very, very new read on it.

00:49:41.000 I mean, I'm sure you could probably talk to people from the war on terror If you want. 0.98

00:50:09.000 Yeah, well, that really fucking sucked, didn't it? 0.99

00:50:11.000 Because ultimately the communists started taking over all the institutions and they're indoctrinating all of our kids and it's horrible. 0.99

00:50:17.000 And so, like, no, we probably should have locked them all up.

00:50:19.000 We probably should have eradicated, I would argue. 0.96

00:50:21.000 We probably should have burned up our communist relics. 0.93

00:50:24.000 We've tried it.

00:50:24.000 We've tried the sort of libertarian, hey, we can build a utopia and everyone can choose their own path and everyone can, you know, you can burn the flag or love.

00:50:32.000 It doesn't work.

00:50:32.000 Yeah, and it just doesn't work.

00:50:34.000 And like the way this constitution was organized, like it worked much better when we were like a hyper homogeneous people where everyone was like the same religion, the same everything, the same culture.

00:50:41.000 It's like now we're basically an empire and we need to start if if we want to really embrace the empire life.

00:50:47.000 as we've structured our country in 2025, it's like the laws do need to sort of reflect that.

00:50:52.000 We need a bit more order, a bit more structured everything because people will just take any freedom, any inch you give them, and with this kind of ridiculousness, and like I agree, I don't even know if it's really a right, they will seize it to just throw.

00:51:03.000 I don't think we're going to get a better future with this top down governance.

00:51:06.000 I think we'll get a better future when this country accepts Christ. 0.98

00:51:10.000 I think having a moral grounding from the bottom up.

00:51:14.000 I think a moral grounding from the bottom up is going to change generationally, but not top down change will do anything.

00:51:20.000 What I think a lot of, and I had a friend, you know, from back home who's a Republican, but not like a huge Trump person, text me earlier today and said, you know, was asking about some of this stuff.

00:51:33.000 And I do think a lot of what Trump is doing when you talk about the crime, when you talk about this, the flag, when you talk about all it's all connected, right?

00:51:42.000 So it's esthetics, it's the broken windows policy, it's this idea that we need to reset.

00:51:49.000 Yeah.

00:51:49.000 We need a big public reset.

00:51:51.000 And to your point, right?

00:51:53.000 What can he do, right?

00:51:55.000 With the presidency, with the power that he has, well, executive orders?

00:51:57.000 Absolutely.

00:51:58.000 Very little.

00:51:59.000 Executive orders is absolutely something he can do.

00:52:01.000 And to your point as well.

00:52:02.000 What effect is it going to have?

00:52:04.000 Is it the most effective thing?

00:52:05.000 Yeah, I understand, but like, it's going to be a problem.

00:52:07.000 Can you say you need that big?

00:52:09.000 You need that big.

00:52:10.000 He did the same thing with the president's, the president's fitness, right?

00:52:13.000 He's doing the president's fitness plan again.

00:52:15.000 That's finally coming back.

00:52:16.000 So all of these things are resets.

00:52:18.000 Triple A. And, you know, really, it's it's back to the country that he remembers.

00:52:23.000 That he remembers from when he was growing up, from when he was having his formative years, how the country was.

00:52:29.000 He's just going back.

00:52:30.000 Even when he talks about the, I love what he talks about the water pressure, right?

00:52:34.000 And he said, well, the water pressure used to be a lot better.

00:52:34.000 Yeah.

00:52:37.000 And he was right about that, actually.

00:52:38.000 And what I mean, your point too, it's like, that's why city conser conservatives are so different from rural conservatives, even suburban conservatives, because it's like, Trump's neighborhood, he grew up in Queens, is a completely, completely different culture, like, civilization.

00:52:38.000 Yeah.

00:52:50.000 He grew up in Jamaica, States.

00:52:51.000 When he was growing up, it was German, English, and Scottish.

00:52:54.000 Now it's mostly South Asian. 0.80

00:52:56.000 So it's like, that has a really galvanizing effect, not that, you know, not saying other people, you know, they don't see this, obviously they see this as well.

00:53:02.000 But yeah, for city conservatives who grew up in a place like Queens and you're seventy years old, I mean, you've seen a churn, a civilizational churn occurring, like, in your box.

00:53:11.000 I agree with you when you say we need to get back to Christ, one hundred percent, right? 0.88

00:53:16.000 Ethics do come.

00:53:18.000 The problem is, is like, ethics do come from the top down.

00:53:21.000 What happened when Constantine converted to Christianity?

00:53:25.000 What happens when emperors convert to Christianity?

00:53:27.000 There is an outflow, right?

00:53:29.000 So the idea here is really simple.

00:53:31.000 It's like, from the top down, you do need to have elected leaders who are putting in policy which are reflective of Christian ethics.

00:53:39.000 The idea of symbols, which is what the cross is, right?

00:53:43.000 What if they made a law saying can't burn the cross?

00:53:46.000 You say, well, you have a right to do that.

00:53:48.000 Why? 1.00

00:53:49.000 It's really stupid. 1.00

00:53:50.000 Cross burning is like laws. 1.00

00:53:52.000 I mean, but it's actually stupid. 0.99

00:53:54.000 But not for Christianity. 1.00

00:53:55.000 It would actually be stupid to do that. 0.99

00:53:56.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:53:56.000 It's stupid to take to take this, like, yeah. 1.00

00:53:59.000 To take this symbol which gives people so much union over something and then make it legal to destroy it. 0.99

00:54:07.000 I just don't put that much power or weight into any symbol.

00:54:11.000 You put it in the cross?

00:54:12.000 I do, but like still it's just a material object from the material world.

00:54:16.000 People do whatever they want.

00:54:17.000 It's not, it's a material object which has a representation of the metaphor.

00:54:22.000 Even if you guys are, look, but we've been, we're debating about whether the flag is covered under the First Amendment.

00:54:29.000 I think it's pretty clear that as much as Christian values are what the United States is based on, that you can't make legislation about that.

00:54:37.000 You can legislate, you can legislate, you can't legislate morality.

00:54:41.000 Yeah, states did.

00:54:43.000 When the country was far more Christian than it is now, they had blasphemy. 1.00

00:54:45.000 And I think you can legislate morality.

00:54:47.000 I think you can legislate anything that you start, if you start legislating morality, people are going to say, well, that's legislating religion.

00:54:57.000 That's the argument they're going to put.

00:54:58.000 All laws are morality.

00:55:00.000 And no more murder laws, no more theft laws.

00:55:02.000 No, those, those are all moral laws and guidelines which are taken from Christian ethics.

00:55:06.000 This, this, this idea, marriage laws. 0.57

00:55:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:55:08.000 First of all, we can legislate morality.

00:55:11.000 We do and we should.

00:55:13.000 And protecting that's exactly what the left has been protecting.

00:55:16.000 Yeah.

00:55:17.000 The thing is, it's like, I know they're doing that.

00:55:20.000 It's good that we're finally fighting back.

00:55:21.000 And it works.

00:55:23.000 It's good.

00:55:24.000 We can take their tactics and use them back.

00:55:26.000 I'm sorry the leftists can't burn our flags anymore.

00:55:28.000 That's terrible. 0.96

00:55:30.000 But I'll go die for the right to do it. 1.00

00:55:32.000 That's stupid. 1.00

00:55:32.000 That's always not stupid. 1.00

00:55:34.000 That's not the argument that I'm making. 0.94

00:55:34.000 And guess what? 0.94

00:55:35.000 It doesn't work.

00:55:36.000 It's not the argument that I'm making.

00:55:36.000 It doesn't.

00:55:38.000 What's the argument?

00:55:39.000 The argument that I'm making is you can't have because of the First Amendment, you can't say, okay, we're going to legislate these, these, these religious tenets.

00:55:46.000 Now, I understand the left actually has a religion when it comes to a lot of their ideology and it actually behaves as a religion.

00:55:52.000 And so they actually have the Death Amendment.

00:55:55.000 The tenth amendment says that if the United States government cannot do it, the states prospectively can.

00:56:00.000 The United States government cannot make a law that says it's a national religion.

00:56:04.000 That's it.

00:56:08.000 I strongly feel like that will go to the Supreme Court and the supremacy clause will come, will kick in and they'll say you can't do that in the United States.

00:56:14.000 Oh, what?

00:56:15.000 A lot of people made the same argument about Roe v.

00:56:16.000 Wade.

00:56:16.000 It will go to the Supreme Court and it will die and it didn't.

00:56:19.000 And you know what?

00:56:19.000 They might revoke Obergefell.

00:56:21.000 That's going to be great too.

00:56:22.000 Yeah, but those are different precedents.

00:56:23.000 The whole marathon is going to be religious too.

00:56:25.000 Those are different precedents.

00:56:26.000 The precedent that the Obergefell, I'm not even sure what precedent was for Obergefell.

00:56:32.000 But the idea that you can pass a law that would in some way violate the First Amendment, they're they're going to throw their.

00:56:42.000 Look, if you, if a state decides they want to, then they can go ahead and try it and see what the Supreme Court says.

00:56:48.000 But there's already been precedent in the Supreme Court for this being called a Christian nation, right?

00:56:53.000 It was, what was it, Lovejoy, or I don't remember what the case was, but he literally said it's a Christian nation.

00:56:59.000 If they, look, if they want to go to, if someone wants to try it and go to the Supreme Court, then fine, you can, you can, someone can try it, fine.

00:57:06.000 I strongly believe the court will say, no, under the False Amendment.

00:57:09.000 Well, it's not.

00:57:10.000 So not, you cannot pass.

00:57:11.000 I think if you make the argument, it falls under the 10th Amendment that you can do some legislative things like the 10th Amendment.

00:57:16.000 I think I would say the supremacy clause says that the 1st Amendment is supreme.

00:57:21.000 I do think what we're arguing about here is a little bit past each other because of what Tate said earlier, right?

00:57:28.000 That the people do matter.

00:57:30.000 And even to your point, Phil.

00:57:33.000 The Supreme Court justices matter and the Supreme Court justices are chosen by the president who is chosen nominally by the people of the states.

00:57:41.000 And so the people matter and it is going to come down to the nitty gritty of the Tenth Amendment, the Supremacy Clause, et cetera, et cetera.

00:57:52.000 But which side is going to win?

00:57:55.000 And that will end up being the side that has had a stack of it.

00:57:59.000 Part of the reason why I would say that the Supremacy Clause would take precedent and that the First Amendment would protect people, would prevent states from doing it is because the conservative justices, they don't always come down where you think they're going to come down.

00:58:14.000 You can reliably pick what the progressive justices are going to, how they're going to vote.

00:58:20.000 You can always, they're always going to vote in line.

00:58:22.000 Sotomayor and Kagan and what's her name?

00:58:27.000 Kajente Brown Jackson.

00:58:28.000 They're going to vote the same way all the time.

00:58:30.000 Yeah.

00:58:31.000 All the time.

00:58:31.000 But you can't you can't reliably predict the other ones.

00:58:34.000 But the other ones because you shouldn't be making this prediction.

00:58:37.000 But in the past you could.

00:58:38.000 That's why you shouldn't be making this prediction.

00:58:41.000 No, this is why you should be making the prediction because they're not reliably conservative or not reliable.

00:58:47.000 Like they're not reliable at all when it comes to conservatives because the conservative justices or the normal justices, right?

00:58:52.000 The not the ones that are not ideologically possessed.

00:58:55.000 They're the ones that actually will figure out about the question at hand is that in the past you could.

00:59:00.000 Right?

00:59:01.000 Like this, this wouldn't have been something that was contested.

00:59:03.000 Many precedents for your ability to do it.

00:59:05.000 And look, I do understand.

00:59:07.000 I do understand the idea of cons of government overreach.

00:59:09.000 I was raised on this libertarian stuff, okay? 0.99

00:59:11.000 The libertarian garbage. 0.99

00:59:13.000 Hey, if we overreach, they're going to use it against us. 1.00

00:59:16.000 They don't give a shit. 0.99

00:59:17.000 They use everything against us anyway. 0.99

00:59:19.000 I just agree with what I said earlier this evening. 0.99

00:59:21.000 Libertarians are terrible. 0.95

00:59:22.000 I don't think there's a libertarian in this room. 0.98

00:59:24.000 I literally just agreed with that point earlier today.

00:59:26.000 So I just say, like, no, it's a powerful symbol and it needs to be protected.

00:59:32.000 And I would like to see these people dragged off the street when they burn it.

00:59:35.000 And I'd like to see their assets thrown in jail as an example for everyone else.

00:59:38.000 That's what I want to see.

00:59:39.000 And this is how I feel about the people who did Operation Warp Speed and burning down cities during the riots.

00:59:44.000 That was the most emotional thing.

00:59:46.000 And a lot of those people were let out of prisons by Kamala Harris' staff and the bail money that they were donating.

00:59:53.000 Absolutely.

00:59:54.000 Yeah, no Jazz Fixers in prison. 1.00

00:59:55.000 Those Jazz Fixers in prison. 1.00

00:59:57.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:59:58.000 Hey, that's what I'm saying.

00:59:59.000 I'm going to segue at one point, but, you know, it, I think the symbol argument and the effect that it has on people, especially as a dad, you know, if you take your kids to Washington, DC and you come in and you want to go to a museum or something, and you walk by a group of people and you say, oh, you know, especially coming to Union Station, right?

01:00:21.000 Union Station is where most people come to the city when they take the train.

01:00:24.000 And you see them right there.

01:00:27.000 And that's why they do it at Union Station, by the way, all the time.

01:00:31.000 And suddenly they're burning a flag.

01:00:33.000 Mommy, daddy, what are they doing?

01:00:34.000 They're burning the American flag.

01:00:36.000 Why isn't anyone stopping them?

01:00:38.000 And then you have to sit there and try to explain to a child.

01:00:40.000 I'm not saying I've done this, but you would have to sit there and then explain to the child that the flag that we teach them matters so much.

01:00:48.000 Actually, there's something beyond that that matters that you can't see and you can't touch, but it matters.

01:00:54.000 And that's their right to burn it.

01:00:56.000 It falls apart. 0.57

01:00:57.000 It's insane.

01:00:58.000 It completely falls apart.

01:00:59.000 It's communist.

01:00:59.000 It's my view.

01:01:00.000 Totally backwards.

01:01:01.000 And again, I do understand the overreach argument.

01:01:04.000 I get it.

01:01:05.000 But there's really not balance now.

01:01:07.000 There's no balance anymore.

01:01:08.000 We can't really balance everybody's different priorities because they've already legislated health crimes for burning their flag.

01:01:15.000 They've already done this.

01:01:16.000 They'll do whatever is necessary to achieve political power while we're arguing about whether or not we should do something.

01:01:23.000 Should we do something?

01:01:24.000 Should we do something?

01:01:25.000 Fight back.

01:01:25.000 I don't know.

01:01:26.000 Yeah, we probably should.

01:01:28.000 It's like, yeah, do a burnout on a Pride crosswalk.

01:01:30.000 They'll yank you out of your car.

01:01:32.000 I mean, it's crazy.

01:01:33.000 That's not acceptable either though.

01:01:34.000 What, doing a burnout?

01:01:36.000 No, the idea that you get yanked out of your car for.

01:01:38.000 Yeah.

01:01:38.000 Oh.

01:01:40.000 power of law and we show that we will utilize force the same way that they're willing to.

01:01:44.000 That's all they respect.

01:01:45.000 All they respect on the counter is force. 0.97

01:01:47.000 That's why they put their finger in your face, say, I'm not touching you, but you can't do anything about it until you smack them in the mouth. 0.87

01:01:52.000 That's how it works.

01:01:53.000 By the way, just, just the last point on this, and we do it this way, but there's plenty of countries around the world, including Western Europe, where there are flag burning laws.

01:02:03.000 This isn't some crazy, tyrannical, draconian, you know, no one has ever said this before.

01:02:11.000 I mean, you could pull up the list and then people have in the comments just it's country after country after country.

01:02:18.000 do actually criminalize this.

01:02:21.000 Just because they do it, is that okay to do it here?

01:02:23.000 Yes.

01:02:23.000 I'm not making a mistake.

01:02:25.000 I know you know that.

01:02:26.000 I'm asking Jack.

01:02:27.000 In this case, just because it's okay in other countries that we should, that's a precedent for us to hear and make that law.

01:02:32.000 I'm not saying that's the only reason.

01:02:33.000 I mean, I spent a long time explaining why I think it's a good reason, but I'm also pointing out that other people agree with that as well.

01:02:40.000 And it's not draconian.

01:02:40.000 Yeah.

01:02:42.000 I just think it's a, I think it's a weak measure, and we have way bigger things to be fighting that I wish this administration would go after.

01:02:48.000 And this is like a small distraction giving you guys some fast food meals to cheer about, whereas I want to go after things that really like he was, he promised to obliterate the deep state.

01:02:57.000 What's happening with that?

01:02:58.000 Tulsi Gabriel just said she's firing fifty percent of the, of like IC.

01:03:03.000 Yeah, I get it.

01:03:04.000 But like there's big things like the EPSC.

01:03:04.000 I get it.

01:03:07.000 I think that's big, but I think there's something beyond just that.

01:03:10.000 I'm thinking, like, I hear this, I hear this a lot and I understand, you know, Trump's supposed to be going after the deep state and the Well, he campaigned on it.

01:03:10.000 It's just staffers.

01:03:16.000 Yeah, and these, you know, and there could always be these hundred year positions.

01:03:20.000 We only have so much time.

01:03:21.000 I only have so much time.

01:03:22.000 Every single time this guy drafts legislation about anything, he makes an executive order about anything, even small, to try to make some kind of change, it's his own side.

01:03:32.000 The guys who want to dismantle the deep state, who go after him the hardest, who curtail and hamstring him from doing what he wants.

01:03:37.000 Because it was the deep state that tried assassinating him.

01:03:39.000 If he can't even pass something about a flag, what do you think he's going to do to the deep state?

01:03:42.000 Exactly.

01:03:43.000 Nothing.

01:03:44.000 I don't think anything's going to happen.

01:03:45.000 That's why I think this is meaningless.

01:03:46.000 I would argue that there's – I think the difference here is that it's short-term versus long-term.

01:03:51.000 I think these are long-term plays and long-term investments that are being made now.

01:03:55.000 Flag burning.

01:03:58.000 Crime is both short-term and long-term.

01:04:00.000 But you're also pointing out some things that, hey, we'd like to see some movement here, here, here, and here.

01:04:07.000 May terms are on the horizon.

01:04:09.000 on the horizon we don't know what's going to happen in 2028 and the point being is if you don't have that much time why wouldn't you want want to make long term investments?

01:04:18.000 Yeah, I do want to make long term investments, but I hope we're actually making them in terms of this, these big things.

01:04:25.000 I think protecting the flag and setting the course of the nation for children is really important.

01:04:28.000 Okay, I want to protect the children.

01:04:30.000 I don't think the flag does it.

01:04:31.000 I mean, I mean, yeah, I think all of your country, the two genders via executive order. 1.00

01:04:38.000 I think that was important.

01:04:39.000 That's a long term investment that you're talking about.

01:04:42.000 Right?

01:04:42.000 Saying that America is an English speaking country setting the precedent that, hey, the actual language you're going to speak here in English, that's a long term precedent, right?

01:04:50.000 These are these are long term investments.

01:04:52.000 But the other thing is, it's like we cannot.

01:04:55.000 curtail this guy.

01:04:56.000 Every single time he tries.

01:04:58.000 Well, and a great example of that is our next story, by the way.

01:05:05.000 Contractually obligated to do these segways, by the way. 0.97

01:05:08.000 I'm not trying to exciple conversation for the record because this is a great combo, but you know, that every day I'll say this, you know, every day we get a story of something the Trump admin is doing this, the Trump, and this is a huge difference between, I would say, the second term and the first term is that this time around, they don't let things go.

01:05:26.000 It's not like they get hit by the media and then they just, all right, we back off.

01:05:31.000 They're deporting Kilmmar Garcia, or at least trying to, and they're fighting tooth and nail for this.

01:05:37.000 And I think that does set a precedent.

01:05:39.000 And you could argue now, some people might argue, so, well, that's super short term.

01:05:43.000 Why do you, why do you care so much about, you know, this one guy?

01:05:46.000 And it's not about that guy.

01:05:47.000 It's about the precedent.

01:05:48.000 And it's about the precedent that this guy should not be here, he should have been deported the first time.

01:05:53.000 And, you know, they brought him back, which I, you know, I feel a certain way about.

01:05:59.000 But now they're pushing him out again.

01:06:00.000 And this is the latest on it.

01:06:02.000 So they were going to be deporting him to Uganda, I think, which I think is so funny.

01:06:06.000 They should just, they should just like deport him to a country random.

01:06:10.000 Just have like a list of countries.

01:06:11.000 You're going to one of these, right?

01:06:12.000 So this is deterrence, right?

01:06:14.000 And yes, we can certainly put Dr. Fauci on that list as well.

01:06:18.000 Which by the way, don't get me wrong, when you mentioned Dr. Fauci, and I don't want to sound like I'm not addressing it, President Trump talks about this all the time that he wants to take a look at the validity of those pardons because I don't think there's any way that anyone can seriously say that an auto pen pardon is valid.

01:06:39.000 Dr. Fauci's pardon is absolutely not valid, Hunter Biden's pardon, et cetera, all the rest of him.

01:06:44.000 And for the lies that Fauci did, he should absolutely have his pardon shredded.

01:06:48.000 They also make the argument that Joe Biden was not mentally fit.

01:06:53.000 That's my point.

01:06:54.000 That's my point.

01:06:55.000 He just was not mentally fit to do any of those anyway.

01:06:57.000 And I think that that's a really hard one for them to argue considering they replaced him because he wasn't mentally fit.

01:07:03.000 So it's really hard for them to argue that point.

01:07:05.000 So let me just get this update though on the story while we're here because a federal, this is, I think this happened just as we were coming up on the show because this changed basically as I was doing the intro here.

01:07:16.000 A federal, and this is from the great Thomas Stevenson.

01:07:19.000 Go follow him, by the way, over at Post 100 because he does great work.

01:07:22.000 I work with him on a daily basis.

01:07:24.000 On Monday, federal.

01:07:27.000 judge appointed by Obama ruled that the Trump admin is forbidden, oh gosh, from deporting alleged MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrego Garcia for now.

01:07:39.000 This comes as he was detained.

01:07:43.000 Your judge Paul Paula, oh, of course, Paula.

01:07:47.000 u.s district judge paula shinnis paula alone blocked his deportation and said in court the Trump admin legal team your clients are absolutely forbidden at this juncture to remove mr. Abrego Garcia from the continent of the United States.

01:07:58.000 This is our understanding until she holds a hearing to see if he can contest the deportation order to the third country.

01:08:07.000 The order comes, oh my God.

01:08:09.000 So this is what we see.

01:08:11.000 We see how the left utilizes power.

01:08:13.000 They never let go.

01:08:14.000 They fight back every chance they get.

01:08:16.000 They say, even if you're someone who's an even if you're an MS 13 member who was involved in trafficking, trafficking other illegals and I believe minors at one point, this guy was, it was brought up that he was trafficking, even for that person, they will still fight back.

01:08:34.000 Well, this is a classic case, like, what do you do with power when you have it?

01:08:40.000 Well, first you have to have it and we don't.

01:08:43.000 And so we have to, we have to be moving more towards that.

01:08:46.000 It is true that we have Trump as president, but we don't really have a right wing entrenched establishment for power.

01:08:52.000 These guys do.

01:08:53.000 And this is exactly what they'll do with it.

01:08:55.000 Yes, then this is exactly what they'll do with it.

01:08:57.000 And they will curtail at every single turn any idea that you can remove people from the nation who aren't supposed to be here.

01:09:05.000 That's their future constituency.

01:09:06.000 They don't want anything.

01:09:08.000 They don't want any type of curtailing.

01:09:10.000 He's going to run for mayor next.

01:09:11.000 Gilmore.

01:09:12.000 Yeah.

01:09:12.000 Well, and he might win.

01:09:13.000 Yeah.

01:09:14.000 They'll love this.

01:09:14.000 One of those places.

01:09:15.000 Yeah.

01:09:16.000 Maybe run for mayor of Kampala, Uganda, maybe that would be very nice.

01:09:19.000 Also, I think like you could just ramp up the pressure by just keeping him in Baltimore.

01:09:23.000 He'll just self deport after like a few weeks.

01:09:24.000 I mean, like, let's be honest here and apparently can't on or or be dealt with via other means.

01:09:29.000 Yeah.

01:09:29.000 Right.

01:09:30.000 Or just like, just to make an example, right?

01:09:32.000 The whole point was to make an example.

01:09:33.000 We are deporting you to Baltimore.

01:09:36.000 Just deport him to Baltimore. 0.65

01:09:37.000 Please go to Uganda. 1.00

01:09:39.000 Please, please let me go to Uganda.

01:09:41.000 Like the Ugandan judge right now.

01:09:43.000 Whoa, whoa.

01:09:44.000 We'll send you.

01:09:45.000 We'll send you to Africa if we're going to deport. 1.00

01:09:47.000 If we can just deport you anywhere. 0.60

01:09:49.000 The whole point is to make an example.

01:09:50.000 Yeah.

01:09:50.000 Just put him out on the street in East Baltimore.

01:09:52.000 That's it.

01:09:53.000 That's it.

01:09:54.000 This is your deportation.

01:09:56.000 Yeah.

01:09:56.000 I don't know.

01:09:57.000 This could be kind of fun.

01:09:58.000 You could take the migrant down Embassy Row and be like, pick, pick where you want to go. 1.00

01:10:01.000 That's a little too nice.

01:10:02.000 Come on, your budget's a little too high.

01:10:03.000 I don't know, maybe South Sudan that might be more you have to pick.

01:10:06.000 No, you have to be the one that isn't on Embassy Road.

01:10:08.000 You have to be the one that's off Broadway.

01:10:11.000 I didn't the Supreme Court reach.

01:10:12.000 I think you say that they can deport to these other countries if they want to, that the United States government can deport to Uganda if they want to.

01:10:20.000 Like they can just do that, right?

01:10:22.000 So watch them.

01:10:23.000 It's this.

01:10:24.000 This may very well get.

01:10:25.000 There's no overturn very again, you know, going back to whether there's rights or not rights.

01:10:30.000 I mean, there's basically saying that there's no.

01:10:33.000 There's no obligation over the government to return them to their, their home country.

01:10:38.000 Why would there be?

01:10:39.000 And in many of the, and by the way, in many of of these cases, you know, you have people who are from even far more, you know, far-flung places in the world than just Latin America.

01:10:49.000 Yeah.

01:10:50.000 But hey, let me dip into your wallet to send them back on a free luxury, you know, airplane ride.

01:10:55.000 Right.

01:10:56.000 Halfway across the world.

01:10:57.000 How many times has he come back and forth now?

01:10:59.000 Yeah.

01:10:59.000 Like, why are we even paying for any of this?

01:11:01.000 He should have been gone immediately. 0.96

01:11:02.000 It's ridiculous. 0.83

01:11:04.000 His lawyer was saying that he's going to fight this. 0.92

01:11:06.000 What kind of defense is there like possible, is possible for like he's been adjudicated as being illegal, right?

01:11:13.000 Like He admitted it, like Gangkor. 1.00

01:11:15.000 He was he was picked up human trafficking., right?

01:11:19.000 Like what kind of what kind of defense could they possibly produce?

01:11:23.000 It's very obvious that this is just a wait out the clock scenario where it's we're going to find it's kind of like when you have a death penalty case and they just they just come up with any theory, anything they can find, oh, and they just hold it over until, you know, right, until a Democrat gets in or something like that so that he's able to stay.

01:11:45.000 And that's, and it's very clear they're trying to do that.

01:11:48.000 So Shane, to your point earlier about short term versus long term, this is what happens when they're pushing for these short term gains.

01:11:55.000 They still have to deal with this.

01:11:55.000 Yeah.

01:11:56.000 But this is great.

01:11:57.000 You know, I agree.

01:11:58.000 This guy has no rights.

01:11:59.000 This guy has no rights here.

01:12:02.000 This guy has no rights here.

01:12:03.000 He should never have been here and he should be launched out of here immediately.

01:12:06.000 Like the things I'm talking about in the previous stories have nothing, they don't apply to this guy at all.

01:12:11.000 He should be launched into space.

01:12:12.000 Okay, so Shane's house now.

01:12:13.000 We're going to.

01:12:14.000 Musk should send him to Mars if I believe the Mars, but yeah.

01:12:16.000 I also like how hard we're mogging the British here because they tried the Rwanda scheme and it failed miserably. 0.98

01:12:21.000 And then we're just like, casually, Oh, Uganda, you want some illegal? 0.61

01:12:23.000 You can have a few.

01:12:24.000 South Sudan, why not?

01:12:25.000 You open?

01:12:25.000 Okay, here's a few.

01:12:26.000 Uganda needs help.

01:12:27.000 Brutal mogging.

01:12:28.000 I'm really sorry for the British, but we make it look easy getting. 1.00

01:12:32.000 It's not the first time we've mogged him.

01:12:33.000 So let's be real.

01:12:35.000 But when it comes down to it, when it comes down to it, you know, and I could see people saying, you know, why does it matter so much about this guy?

01:12:41.000 And I think it shows the fight.

01:12:43.000 I think it shows the new level of fight that Trump Admin 2.0 is showing, where no, we're not going to give up on this one.

01:12:51.000 And in fact, because you made such a big deal and the senators were flying down to El Salvador and meeting with him in, you know, CCOT and all this, that we're not going to let go and we're going to make a symbol of this and we're going to show this to everyone and set the precedent that if you're here and if you're here illegally and you're rolled up, you're going.

01:13:10.000 And there's no, the Libs don't have any power.

01:13:13.000 Well, look at what happened.

01:13:14.000 You remember Alligator Alcatraz?

01:13:15.000 We forget.

01:13:17.000 The idea, like I watched the tour.

01:13:19.000 It's an air-conditioned facility, right?

01:13:22.000 And it's set up, this air-conditioned facility, where there's fences which, you know, divide various prisoners.

01:13:29.000 Probably some of them are more violent than others, et cetera, et cetera.

01:13:32.000 What's the actual problem here?

01:13:35.000 Why is the expectation this is going to be the Ritz?

01:13:37.000 Why was there ever an expectation that this was going to be the Ritz, that this was going to be a nice hotel room for people?

01:13:43.000 To kick their feet up and relax?

01:13:43.000 Right.

01:13:45.000 But for some reason, that seems to be the case, that these people are like, hey.

01:13:49.000 I know, because you look at holding cells in Sweden in the Ritz.

01:13:54.000 And they're like, oh, they're nice.

01:13:56.000 That's actually having America. 0.63

01:13:57.000 Have you seen the original Al Qaeda? 0.94

01:13:58.000 I'll show you on the 44th floor of this luxury hotel before we fly you back to your country.

01:14:02.000 You can come in whenever you want.

01:14:04.000 This is a precedent against that kind of stuff.

01:14:06.000 This is the idea of like, oh, well, no.

01:14:09.000 I didn't mean to cut you.

01:14:10.000 I was just saying, this is the reason Trump is fighting this tooth and nail in the administration.

01:14:17.000 He's trying to say, look, we're done with that.

01:14:20.000 And by the way, this is a state of the art holding cell, holding facility for illegals before they go.

01:14:25.000 It's fine to send them there as we're processing them out.

01:14:29.000 Enough of the Ritz treatment.

01:14:30.000 Enough of the you get everything you want treatment.

01:14:32.000 So I think you're right on that.

01:14:33.000 Debit cards in New York City.

01:14:34.000 Take away the hotels.

01:14:35.000 Give them to the illegals. 1.00

01:14:37.000 Insane.

01:14:38.000 Yeah, they can get meds tickets on the way out.

01:14:40.000 Oh, not meds.

01:14:41.000 Not the meds.

01:14:42.000 Gosh, dude.

01:14:44.000 I think summer camps produce patriots.

01:14:47.000 Because if you went to a summer camp, this looks fantastic, Alligator Alcatraz.

01:14:50.000 This looks wonderful.

01:14:51.000 I remember how horrid the conditions were, and you loved your time there.

01:14:54.000 So just on August 21st, District Judge Kathleen M. Williams, has said that it has to be shut down.

01:15:03.000 So it's still open, but they have significant restrictions currently.

01:15:07.000 Which, again, it's not some kind of technology.

01:15:10.000 kind of terrible place they're going to fight that out too.

01:15:12.000 Well, I mean, and hopefully the Trump administration wins.

01:15:15.000 But the point is like, no matter what you do, the left is going to push back.

01:15:20.000 And like you mentioned earlier, the institutional power is still strongly in the left's favor because of judges and stuff like that.

01:15:27.000 Well, judges, uh, academics, the people who make studies which show the inhumane conditions of various people based on how they define it.

01:15:34.000 Uber don't care. 1.00

01:15:35.000 All that is entrenched.

01:15:36.000 remember that.

01:15:37.000 So I've, I've, I, I spent about a year at Guantanamo Bay serving there in the military and not on the other side of the bars, but, it was the same deal.

01:15:50.000 It was like air conditioned, the facilities were really nice.

01:15:53.000 It was based on, you know, a supermax.

01:15:55.000 So they get detainees would get whatever they wanted.

01:15:59.000 They would certainly get, you know, religious specific meals and keep halal and all this.

01:16:05.000 And then we would have so and Red Cross was right there in the National Red Cross.

01:16:10.000 So they and they had pretty much full access all the time to the prison facilities whenever they wanted it 24/7.

01:16:18.000 They had an office right there.

01:16:20.000 And we would still get congressional delegations and journalists who would come in and we would show them all this.

01:16:27.000 and I would say what I just said about here's their medical group and here's their Red Cross representative and here's the lawyers that they get and all this and they would walk out and they said torture.

01:16:36.000 Torture.

01:16:38.000 Torture in these torture conditions.

01:16:40.000 Look at the torture.

01:16:41.000 It's like, no, I just spent all day showing you the no, torture.

01:16:47.000 And it was, you know, I never kind of I'll put it this way.

01:16:50.000 I kind of never believed the media to be like I understood the media was like liberal, I guess, but it was serving there and like going through that experience with, you know, my own eyes to just realize how much lying they do.

01:17:04.000 Just straight, blank lying that for the purpose of political expression.

01:17:08.000 expediency.

01:17:09.000 The purpose of the expediency, but to, I mean, I always assumed it was like, it was bad.

01:17:13.000 I had no idea how blatant it was.

01:17:14.000 You think they just did it?

01:17:15.000 It's worse than that.

01:17:16.000 You show up just to get photos?

01:17:17.000 Like, why even go?

01:17:18.000 To prove that they were there.

01:17:19.000 Yeah, just to be like, they're here.

01:17:20.000 They could prove they were there and then they turn around and say, Oh, and then they know because I can't just post, you know, pictures of the conditions for lots of legal and secret facility and you're a seizure and that would be legal.

01:17:33.000 You know, that, you know, we can't really refute anything they're saying.

01:17:36.000 No easy.

01:17:37.000 Okay.

01:17:38.000 And John McCain did that when I was there, actually.

01:17:40.000 I got to brief.

01:17:41.000 They do, they do blatantly lie.

01:17:41.000 Well, you're right.

01:17:43.000 They lie often and they lie constantly.

01:17:45.000 Journalists?

01:17:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:46.000 Yeah, how's that?

01:17:47.000 And this, yeah, so this was, this was me serving in the military and being like, wait a minute, it seems that the lies are far stronger than I realised.

01:17:54.000 I thought they were just going to love it.

01:17:57.000 But since we're talking about symbols today, I think Surge has our next story up, which is also important because it's a big symbol.

01:18:07.000 And this is Cracker Barrel.

01:18:08.000 Of course, we're getting into Cracker Barrel.

01:18:11.000 People are saying, and I've seen people say, why do you guys care so much about, again, it's symbols.

01:18:16.000 It's the power of symbols.

01:18:18.000 You know, I know there's someone out there who has a famous adage, but I would turn it around.

01:18:23.000 I would say feelings don't care about your facts.

01:18:25.000 And that I think people imbue, right, symbols with meaning because they are a representation of a greater, either ideal, a greater truth, a greater nation, a greater religion.

01:18:25.000 So true.

01:18:42.000 You know, a cross is just a plus symbol, right?

01:18:45.000 It's also a way to convey a huge amount of information immediately.

01:18:49.000 Immediately.

01:18:49.000 Yeah.

01:18:50.000 And this is what a meme is too.

01:18:51.000 A meme is the same thing.

01:18:53.000 So a cross is a cross just a plus symbol that's slightly off center?

01:18:56.000 No, it's off center.

01:18:58.000 Depending on how the cross is set, it conveys if you're this type of Christian, exactly.

01:19:02.000 That type of Christian symbolism conveys not just this idea of like intuition and feelings, but it conveys a significant amount of information between people, but they never have to say a word.

01:19:14.000 Precisely.

01:19:15.000 And so, and so when people say, Why do you care so much about Cracker Barrel?

01:19:18.000 Oh, that's boomer slop.

01:19:19.000 And it's like, you know, I I I I I I I get what you're saying, but I do think there's something bigger.

01:19:24.000 So go, wait, go back to the headlines.

01:19:25.000 I don't want to hit that.

01:19:26.000 So Cracker Barrel reversing course, admitting they failed with the rebrand vow to include Uncle Herschel on the menu store and roadside.

01:19:39.000 Uncle Herschel wouldn't have wanted it anyway.

01:19:41.000 Well, he is a cracker, so I don't know. 0.53

01:19:43.000 Yeah.

01:19:45.000 Yeah, this is really grim stuff.

01:19:47.000 We staged me and my friend Nathan Haberstad, he was on the Culture War Friday.

01:19:51.000 We actually went and staged a sit in at the local Cracker Barrel afterwards as a form of protest.

01:19:56.000 And it was a very empty Cracker Barrel.

01:19:57.000 So I think the piggyback is yellow, by the way, for the record.

01:19:59.000 It's yellow.

01:20:00.000 I don't think he's one or the other.

01:20:02.000 I don't think Cracker Barrel is I don't think it means it's for everyone, right?

01:20:05.000 Yeah, obviously.

01:20:06.000 For every color, creed, it's a beautiful thing.

01:20:08.000 And they're trying to take that away and it's very sad.

01:20:10.000 Like people say it's boomer slop.

01:20:10.000 And I agree.

01:20:12.000 I'm like, well, if you've been on a road trip, it does mean a little more.

01:20:15.000 I mean, because like there's not like places like Cracker Barrel remind you of your childhood.

01:20:21.000 Some places you get McDonald's or Cracker Barrel.

01:20:23.000 Sure.

01:20:24.000 Yeah.

01:20:24.000 And yeah.

01:20:25.000 Well, Cracker Barrel is like, yeah, that's, you know, that's fine dining when you're on the road.

01:20:28.000 And it's like, yeah, it's it's it reminds you of your childhood.

01:20:30.000 It reminds you of family.

01:20:31.000 You know, the rusty farm equipment everywhere is like horse castrator and whatnot.

01:20:35.000 It's like, it's a really beautiful thing and they want to turn it to farmhouse chic.

01:20:39.000 I mean, well, they turned all the McDonald's into prisons.

01:20:41.000 Yeah.

01:20:42.000 Yeah.

01:20:43.000 They look for awful farmhouse chic.

01:20:43.000 Yeah.

01:20:43.000 Brutalism.

01:20:45.000 It's like prisons.

01:20:46.000 It's just gray and it's.

01:20:48.000 It's.

01:20:49.000 I think the reason that Cracker Barrel and we'll see what they end up actually doing with it. 0.94

01:20:54.000 But I think the reason that it resonated so directly because, you know, it's interesting is people would say like oh this is woke right but it's not necessarily woke in the sense they're not changing it to like a rainbow color or adding things like that or changing it to like a like a woman or something But we all know that it's wrong.

01:21:18.000 It's woke-ish because it's ugly.

01:21:21.000 It's a war on beauty.

01:21:24.000 The backlash wasn't just from people on the right, if I understand correctly.

01:21:26.000 Right. 0.99

01:21:27.000 Like the Democrats on the left that were just like, this sucks.

01:21:30.000 You see it all the time when they have these beautiful old homes and especially millennials will come through and just gut it and paint everything white and turn it farmhouse chic. 0.82

01:21:36.000 And it's like, it's not woke.

01:21:37.000 It's just like sad like you're losing something.

01:21:40.000 Well, they make the Mick Mansion track holes.

01:21:42.000 Yeah.

01:21:42.000 Well, I do think that it's, if we're talking about symbols, what is it a symbol of?

01:21:47.000 It's a symbol of the America that came before.

01:21:50.000 And it's a symbol of American heritage for how we got to where we are.

01:21:54.000 And so, you know, that old America, quote unquote, versus new America, or whatever you want to call it, real America versus new America is definitely the sentimental.

01:22:08.000 seminal moment of our, you know, of our time.

01:22:10.000 This is our challenge.

01:22:11.000 This is our fight right now.

01:22:12.000 Which one is going to win out?

01:22:13.000 Is it the Kilmar Garcia America who doesn't care, you know, to even speak the language and he'll go eat whatever he wants or is the people who who or is the people who come in there and say, oh, you know what?

01:22:26.000 My grandfather had one of those, you know, or we were we were going there with my wife who isn't even from this country.

01:22:30.000 Let me let me ask you something.

01:22:31.000 And she kept asking that as well.

01:22:32.000 Conspiracy hat time.

01:22:34.000 Oh, conspiracy hat time.

01:22:35.000 You have to turn it to tin foil or tin foil hat time.

01:22:38.000 Do you think that this story got launched into the public consciousness purely because the name cracker was in Cracker Barrel?

01:22:47.000 It's not the first time it's tried.

01:22:49.000 Remember a few years ago it was going around on Twitter about them trying to change the name of Cracker Barrel and they thought it was offensive.

01:22:49.000 They've tried this.

01:22:54.000 It might even start it as a meme, but then people took it seriously.

01:22:56.000 It was trending for a while.

01:22:58.000 So they definitely tried it before.

01:22:59.000 I was hoping that this was just one of those outrage marketing things when I first heard it. 0.91

01:23:05.000 I was like, that's ridiculous.

01:23:06.000 Why would they, you know, why would they get rid of that?

01:23:09.000 I do think, and we were talking about this beforehand though, I think a bunch of us, I forgot exactly who it was, that possibly the real conspiracy here isn't necessarily that they want to change the logo, but they want to change the entire business model.

01:23:22.000 Right.

01:23:23.000 Because they're trying to move away from sitting dining.

01:23:25.000 A lot of places are really.

01:23:26.000 Cracker Barrels have that whole front area before you sit down and eat. 0.99

01:23:30.000 That's like a little boutique.

01:23:30.000 Like a general store.

01:23:31.000 It's the family friendly.

01:23:32.000 It's family friendly.

01:23:32.000 Yeah.

01:23:33.000 It's like one of the last like real family friendly places in America. 0.99

01:23:35.000 By the way, when we go, they're very expensive and nobody buys shit. 0.98

01:23:38.000 When we go there, they don't buy anything. 0.99

01:23:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:23:40.000 As a family, when we go there with kids, it's like they spend all their time there.

01:23:44.000 Yeah.

01:23:44.000 Because when you're waiting for the food to come, the kids are like, I need this, I need this, I need this, I need one of these, I need some of this stuff.

01:23:50.000 And it's like, eventually they kind of wear you down.

01:23:53.000 I eat at Cracker Barrels, especially when I'm on trips.

01:23:55.000 And I rarely see anyone in the boutique side actually buy anything.

01:23:59.000 They go through and they look.

01:24:00.000 Yeah.

01:24:00.000 You know, they're waiting for their table.

01:24:02.000 They look a little bit on their way out, but I don't see them buy much.

01:24:05.000 And the price tag is why.

01:24:07.000 So I think they're probably rebranding to something which is more bean counter-revolutionary. 0.99

01:24:14.000 Brave AI says that it's 20% of the market.

01:24:16.000 But does the whole idea, the whole idea for a rebrand, if you're changing that whole front boutique area is going to be what?

01:24:23.000 The symbol.

01:24:24.000 You want to remove the symbol so that people don't associate it anymore with, oh, we have family fun time at the boutique.

01:24:30.000 And then, you know, we play on the enormous chessboard out front and then get in the rocking chair right after.

01:24:36.000 And then, and then is when you're sitting there eating, they have Chinese checkers there for you to play, right?

01:24:40.000 Peg.

01:24:41.000 Yeah, and the peg game.

01:24:41.000 The peg game.

01:24:42.000 Yeah.

01:24:42.000 You see they made it woke.

01:24:43.000 It's like a lip tart version now.

01:24:44.000 What are they doing? 0.99

01:24:45.000 They don't mock you if you like suck up. 0.96

01:24:46.000 That's not, that's not what you're doing. 0.98

01:24:48.000 Let's do it again.

01:24:48.000 It's just like, Nice try.

01:24:49.000 Nice try.

01:24:50.000 That's not even the most profitable model in a society that doesn't have kids.

01:24:53.000 So the Cracker Barrel's gift shop is.

01:24:56.000 Which goes back to what you're saying about McDonald's, because McDonald's, when you were, when we were kids, I think we're all the kind of of of an age.

01:25:02.000 That was the plan, man.

01:25:04.000 You actually, that's a great question.

01:25:05.000 Do you remember McDonald's being awesome as a kid?

01:25:08.000 It's always just been like the mediocre restaurant.

01:25:11.000 So you don't have that memory.

01:25:12.000 What about the experience?

01:25:13.000 Like when you went there, was it exciting?

01:25:16.000 No, because there was a playground.

01:25:18.000 There was like one that had a playground.

01:25:19.000 Okay.

01:25:19.000 I remember.

01:25:20.000 Yeah.

01:25:20.000 So it was one of the big ones that had the massive jungle gyms with the slides and the ball pit, and there was tons of kids there.

01:25:26.000 Wow, we did.

01:25:27.000 So when we were all kids Oh yeah, no, there were ball pits.

01:25:29.000 When we were all kids, McDonald's, it was, I want to say, almost every McDonald's, unless you were, like, in the middle of the city, had this huge play area for kids.

01:25:40.000 And the inside was designed for kids as well.

01:25:43.000 So there'd be like seats constructed out of the characters.

01:25:47.000 And like the hamburglar would be like your bench that you were, like, sitting.

01:25:51.000 It was fast food Disney World.

01:25:52.000 Back then.

01:25:53.000 It was like Disney World.

01:25:54.000 Back then they had ashtrays.

01:25:54.000 Yeah.

01:25:55.000 It was literally like good old days.

01:25:56.000 And ashtrays for kids.

01:25:59.000 With ashtrays.

01:26:02.000 And it was, and it was great because, you know, if you're there and if you're, you know, with mom or dad, you know, then they could they knew they could do take the kids there and then, hey, cut them loose.

01:26:12.000 You know, you go do your thing, order the food, food's coming in.

01:26:16.000 Hey, food's here, you gotta yell at them to get off the playground.

01:26:19.000 The world used to be made, or at least the country used to be made for families. 0.98

01:26:24.000 And I will say, and people I saw someone in the chat say, Posobu's gonna bring up Europe.

01:26:28.000 I am.

01:26:28.000 You know what I am?

01:26:30.000 Because going around, you know, I spent a lot of time in Poland this year for the election and successful.

01:26:37.000 Wait, Poles are Polish people are smart enough to have elections.

01:26:40.000 I know, somehow.

01:26:41.000 Well, basically, it's.

01:26:43.000 How many Poles does it take? 0.99

01:26:44.000 Does it take?

01:26:46.000 But they just find the one.

01:26:47.000 They just find the one.

01:26:48.000 And then he picks and everyone's like, Okay, we got it.

01:26:52.000 And so, and so they still have this, Hungary is the same way.

01:26:57.000 It's still very pro family.

01:26:59.000 So you see stuff for kids everywhere.

01:27:02.000 And I don't just mean like in McDonald's, I mean like you walk, you could walk into like a five-star restaurant and the very first thing you'll see off to the side is a kids area.

01:27:13.000 And they'll say, Okay, well, here's an area for the kids.

01:27:15.000 There's some games, there's some toys.

01:27:17.000 Sometimes they even have someone like assigned to sort of watch that area.

01:27:21.000 So you can go and sit at your table, right?

01:27:24.000 Right, where it's probably not great for kids, even though you have to teach restaurant manners, but we all know how that goes.

01:27:30.000 And they just have these kids areas that are totally incorporated in the world.

01:27:34.000 And you even see it in, you know, just you go to offices or a place where you have a waiting room.

01:27:40.000 There's a kids area.

01:27:40.000 There's little kids areas.

01:27:42.000 If we're going to be mean to people who can't have children here, it's going to make them feel bad, which is why we need to take half of the public parts.

01:27:48.000 Make sure they feel bad.

01:27:49.000 All the playgrounds.

01:27:50.000 Make everything sad.

01:27:51.000 Right?

01:27:51.000 And you, yeah, you want to make sure that you don't do anything which is too family-oriented.

01:27:56.000 And by the way, what if we made that a symbol?

01:28:00.000 The American family.

01:28:01.000 What if we made that a symbol?

01:28:03.000 and put it everywhere, mom and dad with kids and they're all of them together, maybe that's the sign instead of my two dads?

01:28:12.000 What if we made that a symbol?

01:28:13.000 Have you noticed how American cities have just become completely antifamily?

01:28:16.000 Everywhere I go now, it's it's it's it's I don't see family antifamily.

01:28:20.000 It's crazy.

01:28:21.000 Well, part of the reason is because there are so few Gen Z and few millennials, like millennials and Gen Z are vanishingly small genetic.

01:28:31.000 Yeah, we eliminated twenty aborted.

01:28:32.000 We aborted them all. 0.69

01:28:33.000 Yeah, but that's just that.

01:28:34.000 Here's the other thing to look at.

01:28:36.000 This propaganda started, I would say, probably in the early nineties.

01:28:40.000 It wasn't so bad in the early nineties, but in the early nineties especially.

01:28:44.000 And then right about the time we hit 2003, it got really bad.

01:28:49.000 There's no symbols of an American family anywhere.

01:28:53.000 And we need that propaganda.

01:28:54.000 I really need that.

01:28:56.000 It's so funny you mentioned this because this is something that I look for all the time, especially when I'm overseas, that you see in Hungary, you see it in Poland, where they just have, and when you say propaganda, it's just like in an advertisement for Coca Cola or even McDonald's.

01:29:14.000 In those countries, they will include that.

01:29:16.000 And you can look this up.

01:29:18.000 Foreign, you know, foreign images of the same company and then they won't do it in America.

01:29:23.000 This is an argument that I make all the time. 0.94

01:29:25.000 Like the left loves to say we need to center the margins and that's a ridiculous concept, it's a ridiculous idea. 0.61

01:29:32.000 We need to center families, normal families with men and women and kids because that's what you want to encourage. 0.96

01:29:38.000 But do you know why they can't?

01:29:40.000 So the feminists did this, the feminists destroyed it. 1.00

01:29:44.000 The idea is the the entirety of the government is moving towards women going to college.

01:29:51.000 Women need to go to college, they need to be educated, they need to have a fallback system for when the man inevitably screw them over, right? 1.00

01:29:57.000 The truth is, is that those years, those College years, that's childbearing years.

01:30:02.000 Those are your best childbearing years and you're wasting them at college and you get another four or five years after college to get your career established.

01:30:09.000 You get married at 30 and you have one child.

01:30:12.000 It's the most antifamily system that you could ever have imagined.

01:30:17.000 It's antihuman because families make more humans.

01:30:21.000 So if it's an antifamily policy, it's antihuman.

01:30:23.000 It's an inhuman.

01:30:26.000 Now you got over here somewhere. 0.98

01:30:28.000 How many women do you have coming out of colleges right now who have these useless degrees? 1.00

01:30:28.000 Now you have what? 1.00

01:30:32.000 It's always psychology, sociology, early childhood development, dating, you know, useless.

01:30:38.000 And as much as I hate to say, but as we know, is that really all they're doing on those campus is studying for these degrees? 0.99

01:30:45.000 Well, they're studying a lot of penises. 0.98

01:30:47.000 No, it's Marxist bootcamp. 0.99

01:30:49.000 That's the truth.

01:30:50.000 The truth is, is that these, these become, you know, issues of sexual deviancy, drugs, all of that, right?

01:30:57.000 They're inundated in it almost immediately.

01:30:59.000 Big party culture at colleges.

01:31:01.000 Nobody's going to dispute that.

01:31:02.000 I mean, huge party cultures.

01:31:05.000 And the whole idea is, okay, now she's gone through ten different dudes.

01:31:09.000 You know what I mean?

01:31:10.000 Now she's ready to settle down. 0.98

01:31:12.000 And now she's out of her girl boss phase.

01:31:14.000 Oh, I got the degree, right?

01:31:15.000 I got run through in a college.

01:31:17.000 Now I'm moving towards I want a family.

01:31:20.000 And what guy wants them?

01:31:22.000 What guy wants these entitled boss babes? 1.00

01:31:24.000 And so anyway, that's a whole different thing.

01:31:26.000 But the idea here is it is indeed an antifamily policy to try to move women towards college as a fail safe because men are evil and are going to screw them over.

01:31:35.000 I mean, we're moving towards a future where kids are going to have grandmamas who had only fans.

01:31:35.000 Totally.

01:31:40.000 That's like maybe happening right now.

01:31:43.000 Maybe happening right now.

01:31:43.000 Right.

01:31:44.000 Maybe having great grandmamas who have only shoes.

01:31:46.000 My grandma has more subs than yours. 1.00

01:31:48.000 Oh my goodness.

01:31:50.000 That's hell.

01:31:50.000 That is, yeah, we're in hell.

01:31:52.000 I mean, it's like, yeah, you find a picture of your of your grandmother when, you know, when she was younger, and it's like, oh, here she is with her family.

01:31:59.000 Maybe a picture of her with friends.

01:32:01.000 You know, now it's.

01:32:02.000 Wasn't Barack Obama's mom basically an OnlyFans girl? 0.99

01:32:06.000 Through that.

01:32:06.000 Yeah.

01:32:07.000 Wasn't she one of the first?

01:32:07.000 Yeah.

01:32:08.000 You're right.

01:32:09.000 You know, married to a man.

01:32:09.000 Yeah.

01:32:11.000 To your point about, you know, having women get into the workforce essentially, I really think that that's the one of the reasons for that is because generally it makes people unhappy and unhappy people tend to be more likely to be revolutionaries. 0.97

01:32:27.000 Happy people don't, don't, don't protest.

01:32:30.000 They don't go and become activists.

01:32:33.000 And if you have a generation of unhappy people, you're more, you're more likely to have a generation of activists and protesters.

01:32:41.000 Well, there's something that will stabilize the nation.

01:32:43.000 There's something to that, but I would just reinforce the point by saying this, that women are the easier, they're much easier to propagandize higher neuroticism. 0.99

01:32:52.000 Much, much easier to propagandize than men are. 0.99

01:32:55.000 There's a reason that they defer women into education and they want women in control of lower education, especially. 1.00

01:33:02.000 And that's where indoctrination begins.

01:33:04.000 And that's why when you go to a public school, it's a nightmare.

01:33:06.000 And little Johnny sits there with his hands folded quietly and all he wants to do is go outside and play and not do anything else in this feminized school, right? 0.92

01:33:14.000 But we don't allow that.

01:33:16.000 Well, I mean, this is, so I wrote the book on humans last year and this, this, this, what we're talking about here is the entire plot of the book.

01:33:24.000 the thesis.

01:33:25.000 But the thesis is that...

01:33:32.000 It's totally deliberate.

01:33:34.000 Yeah, the deconstruction is the point.

01:33:35.000 The destabilization is the point.

01:33:37.000 That's why you have Karen Bass, for example, you know, take this into a city level, where she was actually trained by Marxist revolutionaries out of Cuba at a young age and was in these brigades and was taking trips down to Cuba for training and then comes up and people say, well, why is she pursuing these policies that destroyed Los Angeles?

01:33:56.000 That's the point.

01:33:56.000 The destruction is the point.

01:33:58.000 They don't actually care about the equality or the social justice or the equity or the, oh, you're free to find your disease.

01:34:07.000 No, they don't care about any of that stuff.

01:34:08.000 It's actually about destroying the destroying beauty.

01:34:11.000 Yeah, and this is nothing new.

01:34:12.000 Look at Hanoi Jane Fonda.

01:34:14.000 Remember when she was going and hanging out with communists and she wanted to become a cultural sex symbol and this type of thing? 0.66

01:34:19.000 What was she pushing?

01:34:20.000 She was pushing socialist ideology as well.

01:34:22.000 And here's, here's, here's, so I'll segue into, and I think this might be our final.

01:34:27.000 topic before we move to super chats, but this talking about, you know, messaging, talking about, you know, the pushing of things in society.

01:34:37.000 Of all places, Snoop Dogg, folks, Snoop Dogg is the one speaking out.

01:34:43.000 Snoop Dogg is criticizing LGBTQ characters in children's movies, laments kids going to ask questions, said he didn't have answers when his grandson questioned a same-sex couple having a baby in a children's movie.

01:35:00.000 And I think they may of, here's, yeah, here's the line.

01:35:06.000 He says, I'm going to read this.

01:35:09.000 Why my grandson in the middle of the movie like Papa Snoop?

01:35:14.000 How's she gonna have a baby with a woman? 1.00

01:35:15.000 She a woman? 1.00

01:35:16.000 Oh, S. Can you read that, Snoop?

01:35:20.000 I didn't come in for this, S. I just came to watch the G movie.

01:35:24.000 Hey man, watch the movie.

01:35:26.000 They just said she and she had a baby.

01:35:28.000 They both women.

01:35:29.000 How's she gonna have a baby? 1.00

01:35:30.000 The movie ain't over with.

01:35:32.000 And it's like, and that's Snoop Dogg, right?

01:35:36.000 You know, he just comes out and I think things have gotten to a certain kind of point when you've got Snoop Dogg pushing back against the destabilization of Costco.

01:35:46.000 of culture, specifically movies intended for children.

01:35:49.000 Well, can we just finally all admit that blacks have always been pretty based on the gay issue? 0.84

01:35:54.000 Like, they're not down. 0.51

01:35:56.000 They're not down.

01:35:57.000 They've always been pretty based on the download brothers.

01:36:00.000 You gotta look at the but look at what happened in California.

01:36:02.000 I mean, they stopped. 0.55

01:36:03.000 It was the black vote was the deciding vote against gay marriage.

01:36:06.000 What was the prop?

01:36:07.000 It was where they voted against it.

01:36:09.000 Yeah.

01:36:10.000 So, I mean, they were the deciding vote.

01:36:12.000 They've been, you know, blacks, not a bit, not big fans, not big fans. 1.00

01:36:16.000 Look where Snoop is.

01:36:17.000 Not allies.

01:36:18.000 Look where Snoop is today and look where Lil Nas X is today.

01:36:21.000 One's railing against this crazy stuff and Lil Nas X is in jail. 0.88

01:36:24.000 We're in the middle of this.

01:36:25.000 We're in the middle of this.

01:36:26.000 We're in the middle of fentanyl.

01:36:28.000 Just.

01:36:28.000 We're naked walking.

01:36:28.000 Yeah.

01:36:30.000 Who would have ever thought that a guy who put blood in his shoes was going to have a bad ending?

01:36:30.000 There you go.

01:36:35.000 The guy who danced on Satan?

01:36:37.000 Yeah.

01:36:37.000 Interesting.

01:36:38.000 Who would have thought it was Prop 8?

01:36:39.000 It was Prop 8 in California.

01:36:40.000 Prop 8.

01:36:40.000 I thought it was Prop 8.

01:36:42.000 It was a ballot initiative that amended the state constitution and then was overruled by the Supreme Court.

01:36:46.000 Of course.

01:36:47.000 Snoop actually, and people, people forget this, but Snoop actually performed at Trump's inauguration at one of the parties.

01:36:55.000 So he performed at the crypto ball.

01:36:57.000 I was there.

01:36:58.000 So I think that counts as me having seen Snoop live.

01:37:00.000 I'm not trying to, like, get on Snoop.

01:37:02.000 So that's not on you, but like I was just saying he was there.

01:37:04.000 He was Let's have it.

01:37:06.000 I'm not trying to down him, but it is now is it's like a safe time to do this too, right?

01:37:11.000 Like culturally five years ago.

01:37:13.000 Kanye was doing this years ago.

01:37:14.000 Yeah, if he was coming out saying this kind of stuff five, six, seven, eight years ago, he would have been, pardon the pun, but dog piled.

01:37:22.000 But, but, but you know, it's even if he's seeing but even if he is being opportunistic, isn't that still a good sign that he's saying, hey, wait a minute.

01:37:31.000 I know the current in rap even at the time, ten years ago, they were still pretty against LGBTQ.

01:37:37.000 Yeah, but isn't that, isn't that the big conspiracy theory in rap though, that like Tupac?

01:37:41.000 was Oh yeah, it's possible.

01:37:43.000 The undercover thing is definitely that, that's not a joke, but it's not a joke in the Republican Party either.

01:37:48.000 And it's not a joke, you know, like it.

01:37:51.000 Tupac and Lindsey Graham would have been friends.

01:37:53.000 Yes, that, that is the case that there's a lot of these undercovers who are around, you know, and I just, I'm not sure that they're any more plagued with it than any other specific community is, especially in the music industry, which is one of the most degenerate places on planet Earth.

01:38:06.000 And here in the entertainment industry, also hyper degenerate, as you know.

01:38:11.000 And well, this was one of the big things where the Diddy trial, people kept, you know, kind of wondering where, you know, is there going to be be more?

01:38:19.000 Is this guy the black Epstein?

01:38:20.000 Are they going to have more, you know, more of this coming out?

01:38:23.000 And it's like nothing more really came out.

01:38:26.000 came out of that.

01:38:28.000 A bit of a flop.

01:38:29.000 It's just all sort of like, it just all sort of went away.

01:38:31.000 And I was like, and it reminded me, you know, to your point about Epstein earlier.

01:38:35.000 It was, it reminded me of the Glaine Maxwell trial where everybody was telling me, oh, there's going to be so much that comes.

01:38:40.000 There's so much that comes.

01:38:41.000 And it hasn't.

01:38:41.000 We should actually, you know, this happened since, you know, Serge, we didn't have this on the list, but, you know, Shane, since we, I don't think Tim has had a show since this has happened.

01:38:53.000 Glaine Maxwell transcripts have come out.

01:38:55.000 Yeah.

01:38:55.000 I trust her as much as I do.

01:38:56.000 I trust her as much as I trust the 911 passports.

01:38:59.000 And it most certainly doesn't look like she's talking about the pardon at all.

01:39:02.000 But I'm happy to hear all this.

01:39:03.000 This is great.

01:39:04.000 I just, I want to see people speaking.

01:39:07.000 Like I told you when I did your show.

01:39:08.000 Yeah, I want to see people chatting about it before.

01:39:10.000 On, you know, on for all of us to see, because I don't trust anyone.

01:39:13.000 See people in prison.

01:39:14.000 Well, that's exactly right.

01:39:16.000 I would say, I'll say this, and I'll put my, like, my Gitmo hat back on.

01:39:20.000 You know, good, good first meeting, right?

01:39:22.000 You know, and if that's, I certainly hope that that is a series of meetings, because there's so many different things that she mentions in this transcript.

01:39:31.000 Like at one point, she goes, you know, they, uh, they say, because, uh, Top Land, she doesn't ask a lot of open-ended questions, but one of the open-endeded questions, which is something, by the way, I like the open-ended questions better because then they might say something that reveals themselves versus if you give them a yes, no, it's a lot easier.

01:39:48.000 So he says at one point, did you perform any money laundering?

01:39:53.000 And she goes like, well, I think you did for some cartels.

01:39:56.000 And it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:40:00.000 Can we get some follow-ups on that?

01:40:02.000 Which, which cartels, you know, what, what were we talking about here?

01:40:07.000 You know, they ask about Mossad.

01:40:08.000 Did you work, did you work with Mossad?

01:40:10.000 And he goes, she goes, you know, not knowingly.

01:40:14.000 Not knowingly.

01:40:15.000 You don't think that this was all precoached?

01:40:16.000 You know, I'm sure there's a lot of that.

01:40:19.000 I'm sure there's a lot of precoaching.

01:40:20.000 But again, that's what I'm saying is that that's why you ask the open edited questions because even in those cases, you do get the opportunity for the person to, you know, to slip up and at which point, okay, the, you know, the lawyer might step in or whatever it is, but at the same time, you know, you have to do more and you have to continue.

01:40:40.000 I feel like this is just damage control at this point on my side of the aisle for Trump.

01:40:46.000 I do think he could have gone down on Fifth Avenue and shot someone and still had support, but you don't protect that Epstein and get support.

01:40:53.000 And so, and I think that that narrative is, which was crafted, is sticking to him and is sticking to him pretty hard.

01:40:59.000 And people want answers in the Epstein files and they want a hundred percent.

01:41:03.000 Didn't Barr testify as well recently behind closed doors?

01:41:05.000 Barr testified as well.

01:41:07.000 And some of it leaked where he said that Trump himself was not implicated, but I think that's of course that's what leaked.

01:41:12.000 I don't think Trump's guilty or a part of it really.

01:41:14.000 I think he's probably just he keeps saying he wants to protect people who are listed with this stuff.

01:41:18.000 The files don't even mean much to me, honestly.

01:41:20.000 He's like the files have gone through so many hands and different administrations.

01:41:23.000 I want to see people go to prison.

01:41:25.000 I want to see them testify before the public.

01:41:27.000 And we know what happened with Prince Andrew.

01:41:30.000 Why isn't he in jail?

01:41:31.000 We know, we know.

01:41:33.000 So when people say, oh, there weren't, there weren't clients, like, well, what was Andrew?

01:41:33.000 Right.

01:41:37.000 That was less wexy.

01:41:37.000 Yeah.

01:41:38.000 How did you define that?

01:41:39.000 That was less wexy.

01:41:40.000 And the girl that he did that to, who went public, explained the whole racket and said that, you know, like, that these women were being groomed from the library. 0.87

01:41:48.000 Well, so, and you know, she, wait, wait, wait, so that woman, this, this was something that just broke that apparently she had written a book, Virginia Jeffrey, which is, even though she's died at this point, under questionable circumstances.

01:42:03.000 No, she tripped and fell.

01:42:05.000 Of course.

01:42:05.000 And that, I believe the book is still coming out.

01:42:08.000 And I'm telling people about my wife's book.

01:42:10.000 It will be coming outing out soon.

01:42:11.000 Script.

01:42:11.000 Well, like Prince Andrew, it's like he just won't visit the US.

01:42:14.000 And he's like, I'm not interested.

01:42:17.000 Never, ever again.

01:42:18.000 I really want to see people be asked certain questions.

01:42:21.000 Like the guard in Epstein's prison who let Epstein make that final phone call.

01:42:26.000 Epstein said he was calling his mom, who had been dead for years, ended up calling Carina Shuliak, his girlfriend at the time.

01:42:32.000 Like, what went down with that?

01:42:33.000 Why was that allowed to happen?

01:42:34.000 The crippling part was Dan Bongino.

01:42:37.000 The crippling part was when Dan Bongino was drafted into the administration.

01:42:41.000 I watched Bongino.

01:42:43.000 I watched his coverage of Epstein for six months.

01:42:45.000 Okay?

01:42:46.000 And when he was getting into the administration and then he came out.

01:42:49.000 within weeks and was like, yeah, there's nothing to see here.

01:42:53.000 I was like, what?

01:42:54.000 Wait, what?

01:42:56.000 That was not, it was not a good selling point.

01:42:58.000 Once they, when they released the files and gave them to all the influencers and all of this, it was an optical nightmare.

01:43:04.000 The video.

01:43:05.000 Where's Ban, where's Bongino?

01:43:07.000 You know, Bongino has been remarkably quiet about all of this.

01:43:11.000 And I think he knows that something's up and he's just not really spilling the beans yet.

01:43:16.000 Epstein's alive.

01:43:18.000 I guarantee you he's alive.

01:43:19.000 They switched him out.

01:43:20.000 I'm dead serious.

01:43:21.000 I actually, there's, look, I'm not the tin foil hack guy, but, you know, his brother had his his own investigation done with very credible, you know, forensic analysis.

01:43:33.000 And he doesn't think that that that that that that that that that was Epstein.

01:43:38.000 Michael Biden, I think.

01:43:39.000 Who was at JFK?

01:43:41.000 He doesn't believe the official story at all.

01:43:42.000 I mean, they had their own evidence.

01:43:45.000 But his body was created right now.

01:43:46.000 Now it is.

01:43:47.000 Epstein's body, yeah, allegedly.

01:43:49.000 Something like that.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:50.000 No, no, no, I'm saying, like it's not, it's not like you could dig it up and open it.

01:43:53.000 Now whether, now whether, now I'm not going to go as far as to say he's still alive, right?

01:43:56.000 But I'm just saying it's very credible.

01:43:59.000 It is very credible that the official story shouldn't really be trusted at all.

01:44:05.000 Yeah, no.

01:44:05.000 I mean, it's, it's, it's one of those situations where.

01:44:08.000 Where when you've got people, it's, you know, like we're saying, it's like the lock door, you know, mystery, where you've got so many people wanting to know what's going on.

01:44:16.000 And when you've got a level of criminality that's being discussed here that's just so heinous and so disgusting.

01:44:22.000 And at the elite level.

01:44:24.000 And involving people, you know, Ehud Barak and Prince Andrew and heads of state and Bill Clinton, how many times to the island?

01:44:34.000 And people are just not going to let go.

01:44:35.000 They're just absolutely going to lose his administration.

01:44:39.000 And when you sit down and say, and this is why there was such a backlash when this memo was dropped.

01:44:46.000 I think it was the 4th of July or the 4th of July weekend that, oh, that's the end that people just freaked out.

01:44:52.000 They said, what do you mean that's the end?

01:44:54.000 That is not the end.

01:44:55.000 And we refuse.

01:44:56.000 We refuse to.

01:44:57.000 Well, if Trump doesn't do, if he doesn't move on, I mean, people aren't letting this one go.

01:45:02.000 And if he doesn't, if there's not something, if they're not, if they don't start pushing something out, there's going to be a massive problem with his base because I've never seen so many Trump supporters pissed off about an issue as I have about this.

01:45:14.000 It's not a big issue.

01:45:15.000 Never, never.

01:45:16.000 Clearly the big issue.

01:45:17.000 But the polls don't say that.

01:45:19.000 CNN said otherwise.

01:45:20.000 Oh, okay.

01:45:21.000 So, well, I mean, look, you're asserting that, that, that.

01:45:25.000 that there's a lot of people that actually care about that.

01:45:27.000 There are a lot of people, there are a narrow group of people that are very vocal about it.

01:45:32.000 Here's what I would argue.

01:45:33.000 That doesn't mean that it's going to change anyone's vote.

01:45:36.000 Here's what I would argue.

01:45:37.000 And it's those vocal people, those vocal, the influencers and things like that, they're the ones who are always the determinator of Trump's management.

01:45:44.000 Here's what I would argue.

01:45:45.000 Here's what I would argue.

01:45:46.000 That the, because you're talking about the political aspect of it.

01:45:49.000 The political aspect of it, and we do have to go to super chats.

01:45:52.000 I'm looking at the clock.

01:45:54.000 The political vulnerability that it creates is a path for an independent or even a Democrat to come in and use this issue to totally take the momentum back from all of the legitimate wins that have been put on the board.

01:46:09.000 They are.

01:46:11.000 We've put a ton on just up tonight, but it is a way for someone to sweep in and say, oh, but you didn't do this.

01:46:17.000 Do you think that it's a cudgel?

01:46:19.000 Do you think that moves people?

01:46:20.000 Because the argument that I've seen always retorted is like, where was all this energy for four years when Biden was in office?

01:46:27.000 I don't think I don't think Democrats don't care.

01:46:29.000 I don't think a voter is going to I think that if you could find a Democrat that credibly rallied around this, it would be very politically potent.

01:46:39.000 I don't know if it's enough to like save the Democratic Party or the Democratic brand, but it's way better than anything.

01:46:45.000 Yeah, I don't think it could save the Democratic Party.

01:46:47.000 It's enough to attack the MAGA brand though.

01:46:50.000 And the thing is, a lot of them are going to use anything they can't talk about.

01:46:53.000 Look, I'm not, I'm not, I don't disagree, but some things that you attack people with, like you're saying, are much more potent than others.

01:46:53.000 I agree.

01:46:59.000 So it's your opinion that this sticks then or could stick.

01:47:02.000 It is, it is sticking.

01:47:03.000 I've never seen so many influencers this pissed off.

01:47:08.000 I've never seen so many people in the MAGA base pissed off.

01:47:10.000 Guys I talked to were supporters from day one, even when the J six stuff was going on, they weren't backing off an inch. 1.00

01:47:17.000 They are furious about this.?

01:47:19.000 Are they furious about the fact that things haven't been released?

01:47:21.000 Are they furious about the way that they're furious about the fact that they're furious about the fact that they're thinking that Trump's sitting on evidence of this and they don't know why he won't release it.

01:47:29.000 That's what they believe.

01:47:30.000 That seems I'm getting I'm getting I'm getting clocked.

01:47:34.000 I'm gonna say goodbye really quick because I have to run them on my show.

01:47:36.000 This is a pleasure guys.

01:47:37.000 We're gonna be live at 10 o'clock.

01:47:39.000 I don't know the name of the show again.

01:47:40.000 Hailes from the Inverted World, Inverted World live on Rumble on YouTube at 10 o'clock.

01:47:44.000 We go live, call in show, give us a call.

01:47:45.000 We're gonna talk about all the crazy stuff and we're gonna hear from Sergeant Peyton.

01:47:48.000 See you later.

01:47:49.000 Woo.

01:47:49.000 Thanks man.

01:47:51.000 I love you Shane.

01:47:52.000 I love you man.

01:47:53.000 Okay, we got to rock.

01:47:54.000 Let's hit some of these super chips.

01:47:58.000 We have the first one.

01:47:59.000 It's a strange name.

01:48:00.000 It says Likma Jonesan and it says any episode with Poso is a good episode hashtag Pizza Hut nationalism.

01:48:09.000 Yeah, Pizza Hut nationalism is basically what I was talking about about, you know, McDonald's Pizza Hut used to be awesome, man.

01:48:15.000 I heard there was a big place making it great.

01:48:17.000 I remember like faint memories of a salad bar.

01:48:19.000 Yeah, there was a big there was a big making it great.

01:48:21.000 Making it great.

01:48:22.000 Don't don't even like.

01:48:24.000 You may hang on.

01:48:26.000 You know what?

01:48:26.000 I got the best Pizza Hut one.

01:48:28.000 I don't like it because it reminds me of that commercial and it reminds me of how good it was and how truly amazing that place was.

01:48:34.000 Wasn't it a Pizza Hut commercial at the very beginning of the original teenage?

01:48:38.000 The Original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

01:48:40.000 Yeah, and Land Before Time.

01:48:41.000 Yeah.

01:48:42.000 Where's like the kid in the ball game or whatever?

01:48:45.000 Yeah, there was the there was that.

01:48:47.000 There was the baseball game one, and then the other was the birthday party with the cheese and the straws.

01:48:52.000 Yeah.

01:48:53.000 Really one.

01:48:54.000 And it was, I mean, just like it was basically the plot of the movie Sandlot, but it as a commercial, but it ends with a Pizza Hut visit with all the friends.

01:49:04.000 I mean, come on.

01:49:06.000 At the beginning of a kids movie?

01:49:07.000 Yeah.

01:49:08.000 Come on.

01:49:08.000 Just forget about it.

01:49:09.000 They've taken everything.

01:49:10.000 Forget about it.

01:49:11.000 They really have.

01:49:12.000 So pizza and custom in that movie too.

01:49:12.000 They really have, bit by bit.

01:49:14.000 The team.

01:49:15.000 Let's do in Millennial Mothal mama. 1.00

01:49:15.000 Okay. 1.00

01:49:17.000 I love history.

01:49:18.000 I've always wanted to go to DC.

01:49:19.000 Do you think it's safe enough now for a mom and daughter?

01:49:21.000 Where is the best place to stay?

01:49:22.000 It is safe enough now.

01:49:25.000 Best place to stay.

01:49:26.000 Of course, you know, you know, check your budget.

01:49:28.000 Obviously, there's some really good options right across the river, right across the Potomac in Northern Virginia.

01:49:34.000 So it's really easy to get back and forth.

01:49:37.000 If you're driving, if you're taking Uber, you're going to Metro, come now, right?

01:49:41.000 Come before the, come while this is all going on because this is absolutely the best time to visit DC.

01:49:49.000 The boony.

01:49:50.000 Okay.

01:49:52.000 Keel is saying the boony is able to send a longboard for his birthday.

01:49:58.000 The 28th Amendment board is my personal favorite.

01:50:02.000 I guess we'll I guess we'll It's not the BG board.

01:50:05.000 I'll pass that to the CEO of the team.

01:50:07.000 Hopefully not that one.

01:50:08.000 I don't think we have any longboards though.

01:50:08.000 Yeah.

01:50:10.000 Is this did this just happen?

01:50:10.000 Oh, wow.

01:50:13.000 Did Trump Trump fired the Federal Reserve governor?

01:50:16.000 Yeah, it just happened.

01:50:17.000 Yeah.

01:50:17.000 Oh, okay.

01:50:17.000 I haven't been on that.

01:50:18.000 Oh, wow.

01:50:19.000 Appreciate the heads up, guys.

01:50:21.000 Good work.

01:50:21.000 That's great.

01:50:22.000 I'm just hosting the show here.

01:50:24.000 That's awesome.

01:50:25.000 Absolutely.

01:50:25.000 Good.

01:50:26.000 Keep doing it.

01:50:27.000 Use power.

01:50:28.000 Always use power.

01:50:29.000 Couldn't disagree.

01:50:30.000 Couldn't agree more with that.

01:50:33.000 Andrew, you look like you have lost weight.

01:50:35.000 Great job.

01:50:36.000 Not one step back.

01:50:37.000 Not one step back, man.

01:50:38.000 Love that.

01:50:39.000 Andrew Shower is writing promo code TANE.

01:50:43.000 I don't know who that is.

01:50:44.000 I'm sorry.

01:50:45.000 I just can't say that.

01:50:48.000 Wyatt Kaldenberg.

01:50:50.000 Is it tenant?

01:50:51.000 Could be.

01:50:52.000 Rep Kurt Walden's daughter was threatened by the FBI.

01:50:52.000 Could be.

01:50:55.000 They ordered him to stop investigating the FBI and Saudi San Diego connection with 9-11.

01:50:59.000 Also, they did the same to the co-chair of the 9-11 committee.

01:51:02.000 Wyatt, not only do I already know about that, I can confirm that because I was there in 2006 as an intern for.

01:51:10.000 Kurt Weldon's campaign, when they raided us over these claims about his daughter being connected to Russia, it was never substantiated.

01:51:20.000 It was never actually charged, but instead they did so several weeks before the election in order to swing the election to the Democrat Joe Sestak in a very tight race.

01:51:32.000 He went on to be completely disgraced, but Kurt Weldon was someone who absolutely called out the truth about what the US knew about 911 and the hijackers prior to the thing actually happening.

01:51:45.000 And yeah, I was right there in working on the campaign and it was 2006 and I remember the raid.

01:51:52.000 I wasn't there when the raid happened.

01:51:54.000 I just like physically wasn't there that day, but I remember coming in like that afternoon and it was like, so how does it work?

01:52:02.000 It's like super, it's like super early.

01:52:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:52:04.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:52:05.000 They go through everything.

01:52:07.000 Oh jeez.

01:52:07.000 Oh yeah.

01:52:08.000 Right, it was nuts and they hit and it wasn't just the offices that were hit.

01:52:11.000 It was the family.

01:52:12.000 It was his like personal home.

01:52:14.000 It was, it was all of us.

01:52:15.000 And that was when Mueller was the FBI director and and and they had he's been asking too many questions and so he just did an episode on Tucker and everyone should go check that out and it's like, uh, it's like why am why is it?

01:52:27.000 Pesobic the way that he is?

01:52:28.000 It's like, well, You know, because of you, because of you.

01:52:32.000 All right, we got any more.

01:52:33.000 Do we have any rumble rants?

01:52:35.000 We got some over there.

01:52:35.000 I was looking for them.

01:52:36.000 Some rumble rants.

01:52:39.000 We have a lot, actually, tonight.

01:52:41.000 I just want to pop out.

01:52:42.000 Hold on.

01:52:43.000 We'll show up one of these.

01:52:47.000 We got, we got.

01:52:51.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:52:52.000 No, that's kind of the same one.

01:52:53.000 I don't know.

01:52:57.000 Let's try and do this one.

01:53:01.000 laughs I want to see, wait, wait, go back to that right there.

01:53:04.000 I want to see proof of life and not just support a coup on Tim cast.

01:53:08.000 Tim, we need proof.

01:53:11.000 Phil, there was one comment I happened to see earlier where people were accusing you of possibly having Tim tied up in the basement.

01:53:17.000 I wouldn't bring him to my house.

01:53:20.000 Amazing, amazing. 0.99

01:53:27.000 Tim fool in the closet. 1.00

01:53:29.000 Yeah, no, no, no, no. 1.00

01:53:30.000 He's going back.

01:53:31.000 I should not.

01:53:31.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:53:31.000 No, wait, wait.

01:53:32.000 No, wait, wait.

01:53:33.000 No.

01:53:33.000 You can cut that, right?

01:53:34.000 We're not.

01:53:34.000 Oh, God.

01:53:35.000 Don't say that.

01:53:36.000 Oh, man.

01:53:37.000 It's over.

01:53:37.000 Now it's all over.

01:53:39.000 It's over.

01:53:40.000 Noted all burnings occur when a foreign flag or terrorist flag is being shown.

01:53:46.000 A lot of people talk about the flag burning.

01:53:49.000 A lot of questions about that.

01:53:51.000 Yeah, it really makes people mad.

01:53:52.000 Yeah, I know.

01:53:53.000 It's like they gaslight you, like, no, I am offended when people burn their flag.

01:53:56.000 It's okay to be offended every now and then.

01:53:58.000 Like, I am kind of offended.

01:53:59.000 Well, because it's offended.

01:54:00.000 I feel like just more pissed off.

01:54:01.000 I feel like, like, you have to learn to get offended and that you have to learn to not turn those feelings off the way they're telling you to.

01:54:10.000 Just say, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, you shouldn't have that.

01:54:13.000 It's like, that's the feminine response, right? 0.93

01:54:13.000 Right. 0.93

01:54:13.000 It's okay. 0.93

01:54:15.000 That's what we were talking about earlier about, like, the, you know, the empathetic, the fairness.

01:54:18.000 And it's like, no, that's my flag.

01:54:21.000 Yeah, it's like faux stoicism.

01:54:22.000 I'm like, no, I am, yeah, a little.

01:54:24.000 I'm triggered.

01:54:25.000 Yeah, it's true actually.

01:54:26.000 Yeah, and actually, and actually there are times when it's warranted and that this does, and we can use reason to reason that a response is warranted.

01:54:35.000 This should be against the law.

01:54:37.000 Does it make our country better?

01:54:38.000 Does it make our country greater?

01:54:39.000 Is a good example for children?

01:54:41.000 Yes.

01:54:42.000 Yeah, well, to arrest them, yes.

01:54:43.000 Yes, to arrest them, yes.

01:54:48.000 Someone right here, yeah, with a super chat.

01:54:50.000 The flag isn't allowed to touch the ground.

01:54:53.000 Burning it is not free speech at all.

01:54:54.000 It's anti country.

01:54:56.000 That's part of the flag code, I think, though.

01:54:57.000 It is part of the flag code.

01:54:58.000 I think it's a law, but I think it's part of the flag code.

01:55:00.000 It can't touch the ground.

01:55:01.000 Right, it's part of the flag code.

01:55:02.000 And so the point is like, why do we have all this flag code if it's not backed up by anything?

01:55:07.000 You know, and I'll tell you, when I was in the military, if you, you know, if you're on flag duty, oh my gosh, you know, you had to be.

01:55:07.000 Who cares?

01:55:14.000 Are the balls at the top of the flag pole there? 0.98

01:55:16.000 They have like a razor blade and a map and a pistol or something in them.

01:55:20.000 You know, there's certain things that I just can't reveal while I'm on the show here like this.

01:55:25.000 But no, there's all sorts of things like that with flags, especially on the old ships, they would have stuff like that though.

01:55:30.000 And it was like, you take the razor blade, the map leads you to some spot with the pistol.

01:55:35.000 So you take the razor blade, then you cut up the map and then you use the pistol on yourself instead of.

01:55:40.000 rather than rather than let the flag fall in enemy hands or something pretty based yeah pretty based yeah someone here says he is a uh who well he's a twice deployed infantry combat vet who you know doesn't you know hates the us flag says the us flag is as degenerate as the as gross as the rainbow flag to me so that's someone to put in so yeah there's definitely a lot and that's kind of what i mean he could also just be lying You know,

01:56:08.000 he could just be like, well, I'm a two-tribe combat vet special forces. 0.77

01:56:11.000 I went over to WWE Am4 and, you know, like he could just be full of shit by and large now, now maybe he's not, but by and large, Pete, this is just what I've noted that most veterans seem to have some veneration towards the flag. 0.97

01:56:27.000 Well, I mean, this is the flag that gets draped on your coffin when you pass away as a veteran, and then that flag gets folded up and handed to your spouse, right? 0.96

01:56:36.000 And so it's, you know, on behalf of a grateful nation.

01:56:40.000 And so if it doesn't matter, does it not?

01:56:42.000 And I think that if a nation exists and we know that nations exist and that their symbols should be protected and given, and yes, it is an extra measure of protection.

01:56:56.000 Because, you know, to the point of, well, if I would go buy a flag, can I just burn something that I own?

01:57:01.000 It's like, well, and certainly this is no, actually.

01:57:03.000 You can't.

01:57:04.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:57:04.000 It's part of that, like, propositional nation crap that's all. 0.95

01:57:07.000 Get arrested for domestic violence for breaking your own plate. 0.99

01:57:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:57:11.000 Like, you know, I don't want to hear this shit. 0.99

01:57:14.000 You could, you literally, you could be arrested and for and get taken away for domestic violence for breaking your own PlayStation because you get upset. 0.99

01:57:22.000 Like, it's not a joke.

01:57:23.000 And so it's like, I don't want to hear any of it. 1.00

01:57:25.000 It's such bullshit. 0.98

01:57:26.000 Yeah, I mean, I keep hearing, you know, I do hear some people saying that, okay, so looking in the chat, some people talking about Trump needs to, needs to go against legal immigration. 0.99

01:57:41.000 He needs to fight harder against it.

01:57:42.000 He...

01:57:44.000 You know, I didn't like that.

01:57:46.000 There was like 5 million pieces.

01:57:47.000 They just authorized all the Chinese. 0.90

01:57:48.000 I'm talking about the Chinese students.

01:57:50.000 600,000 Chinese.

01:57:51.000 I didn't like that.

01:57:52.000 Acceptable.

01:57:52.000 I didn't like that.

01:57:53.000 Which, by the way, if you want to hurt...

01:57:56.000 That's how we'll tear up the world.

01:57:57.000 If you want to cut off on universities, you cut off on this.

01:58:02.000 You cut down on that because foreign students have to pay full freight.

01:58:05.000 So they don't get, you know, in-state tuition and all this.

01:58:09.000 They have to pay full freight.

01:58:10.000 And so this is why they, you know, it comes from overseas.

01:58:15.000 It typically comes from Chinese elite, CCP elite, and then you're getting them paying to the universities, which is a massive cash cow for them, these foreign students.

01:58:24.000 And then, of course, when they come to our country, what do they do? 0.99

01:58:24.000 They love it. 0.99

01:58:27.000 They, you know, they they're stealing research, they're stealing so much, and then they go back to their country by and large now. 1.00

01:58:33.000 So why are we subsidizing or allowing these educational institutions to have the elite, you know, the next generation of the CCP's elite come to our schools?

01:58:45.000 Yeah.

01:58:46.000 It just doesn't make any sense at all.

01:58:47.000 Yeah.

01:58:48.000 There was this interesting thing people would bring up when they're talking about like Harvard and they'd be like they're excluding Asian students.

01:58:52.000 And then it's a step that's even worse is the Asians that are there, most of them are not Asian Americans, they're Chinese students that have come there. 1.00

01:58:58.000 So it's like, yeah, even at the highest level, it's like, it's way worse than you think.

01:59:03.000 Well, and just to get back to your point of it, every time you're allowing a student at one of these institutions other than an American, you're taking a spot from an American kid.

01:59:14.000 Broadly speaking, with immigration too, it's like that's a house and a job and a public school and everything. 0.64

01:59:20.000 It's like, you're, someone's getting pushed out.

01:59:22.000 Someone's being pushed out.

01:59:24.000 We actually live in a finite world.

01:59:25.000 We actually live in a world that has finite resources.

01:59:28.000 We don't live in, I'm sorry that the 1960s lied to you, but.

01:59:31.000 What about my GDP?

01:59:33.000 Yeah, my GDP go up.

01:59:34.000 GDP go up.

01:59:35.000 Number go up.

01:59:38.000 All morality is cogwheel.

01:59:39.000 GDP go up.

01:59:40.000 It's cogwheel.

01:59:41.000 Cogwheel.

01:59:42.000 GDP go up.

01:59:43.000 That's good.

01:59:44.000 Blank slate.

01:59:45.000 Tabula rasa.

01:59:46.000 All people are the same.

01:59:48.000 All people are the same.

01:59:49.000 Everyone, everyone can get this.

01:59:50.000 I think we're pretty much winding down at this point.

01:59:52.000 Let's, let's, Andrew, let's do one more.

01:59:55.000 One more.

01:59:55.000 Just to show you.

01:59:55.000 Oh, one more.

01:59:56.000 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

01:59:57.000 As a Tim Cash tradition, tradition.

01:59:57.000 Right there.

02:00:00.000 Yeah.

02:00:00.000 I'm donating from the No way.

02:00:03.000 Oh my gosh.

02:00:04.000 Happens all the time.

02:00:05.000 As is Timcast tradition, I'm donating from the delivery room, holding my first son.

02:00:10.000 Greatest feeling in the world.

02:00:12.000 Have more babies.

02:00:13.000 We are very pro-baby here at Timcast.

02:00:18.000 I mean, I really hope someone wasn't listening to this while she was giving birth.

02:00:22.000 So does that mean that these conversations are the first thing that someone just heard?

02:00:25.000 No, no.

02:00:25.000 I'm a Cracker Barrel of the entire life.

02:00:27.000 It's got to be better than hearing, ah!

02:00:29.000 I mean.

02:00:32.000 All right, you've got one.

02:00:33.000 Make more. 0.55

02:00:34.000 Make more babies.

02:00:35.000 Families are how we save America.

02:00:37.000 Make more babies.

02:00:38.000 Yeah, true.

02:00:39.000 That's wild.

02:00:40.000 We had one of those Planet Earth documentaries on, I think.

02:00:43.000 It happens most nights.

02:00:48.000 Like, honestly.

02:00:48.000 That's crazy.

02:00:49.000 Most nights of the week, we'll get someone that says, hey, I'm here just carrying on the tradition.

02:00:54.000 Tim sent one in when his daughter was.

02:00:57.000 I don't have that tradition, but I get a lot of people who say, I just had my first baby last night, things like that.

02:01:02.000 I'm always happy to hear that.

02:01:04.000 I mean, it's a numbers game.

02:01:07.000 It's a numbers game at the end of the day.

02:01:08.000 Okay, now we're going around.

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02:01:09.000 Andrew.

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02:01:18.000 I guess it's Twitter X now.

02:01:20.000 And you can also find me every day, Monday through Thursday at the 5 o'clock time slot at the Rumble.

02:01:26.000 Rumble top ten for the extravagance.

02:01:28.000 I hope to see all of you there.

02:01:29.000 You can find me on X and Instagram at RealTape Brown.

02:01:32.000 I think Tim's going to be back soon, so I don't know how many more morning show fill-ins we'll have, but I can't wait to see you back.

02:01:38.000 One more thing to shout out that I forgot to, sorry.

02:01:40.000 It's super important though.

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02:01:46.000 It's going to be a massive event.

02:01:48.000 I went out, rented out a massive bar.

02:01:50.000 It's going to be awesome.

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02:01:56.000 Do it, buy it, go over there.

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02:02:24.000 The members chat will begin in just a few minutes.

02:02:27.000 Nice.

02:06:25.000 Thank you.

02:06:54.000 I love that you didn't shy away from the Snoop Dogg voice.

02:06:58.000 Why would I?

02:06:59.000 That was hilarious.

02:07:01.000 Why would I?

02:07:02.000 They were saying I didn't shy away from the Snoop Dogg voice.

02:07:06.000 Yeah, it was good.

02:07:07.000 Like, I mean, I didn't go over.

02:07:07.000 What?

02:07:10.000 You know, I didn't overdo it, you know?

02:07:12.000 Right on.

02:07:13.000 Yeah, you did a good job.

02:07:16.000 Yeah, you do it tasteful, but I did see Soup though.

02:07:19.000 So I feel like I'm on the level now, at least a little bit.

02:07:23.000 More than I was, you know, prior to then, I don't know if I would have tried it.

02:07:26.000 I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have given it to you at college try before that.

02:07:30.000 But now, I mean, now is it because he's on your side now politically?

02:07:32.000 He's on my side.

02:07:34.000 Yes, we're friends now.

02:07:35.000 He's he's he's he's given me one of those cards, you know, to do the voice that is to do the voice, nothing else.

02:07:43.000 Oh man, yeah, as you can see, everyone else is coming back in the chat.

02:07:46.000 How does this work?

02:07:48.000 Basically, we go to the story.

02:07:50.000 You introduce the story that you see on your right here, and then the whole chat will learn about it or the whole show will learn about it.

02:07:55.000 Oh, I should have mentioned I forgot I had the I forgot I had the map behind me.

02:08:01.000 I should have shouted that out.

02:08:02.000 Oh, yeah.

02:08:02.000 The map.

02:08:03.000 We're live on Rebel now.

02:08:05.000 The map's available, guys.

02:08:07.000 The Trump map.

02:08:09.000 Go and get your Trump map.

02:08:10.000 I designed this map, which is right behind me.

02:08:12.000 You can see it here, somewhere behind my thumb, which is the Trump map.

02:08:16.000 And it has all the great stuff on it.

02:08:18.000 It has GitMo.

02:08:20.000 It has a little bit of SpaceX.

02:08:22.000 It has Mount Rushmore.

02:08:24.000 It has the Wall.

02:08:25.000 Oh, my God.

02:08:26.000 I'm so bad at trappers.

02:08:27.000 The Gulf.

02:08:28.000 Trappers are so loud.

02:08:29.000 America. 0.54

02:08:30.000 The worst.

02:08:31.000 Oh, the no.

02:08:32.000 I've got some Nulla bars as well.

02:08:35.000 They're actually really good.

02:08:37.000 They're really good.

02:08:38.000 The rappers are terrible though.

02:08:39.000 The rappers are way too loud. 0.73

02:08:41.000 Well, I don't need them on air, but I did eat one on Air Force One recently.

02:08:46.000 So really?

02:08:47.000 Is Greenland still a possibility?

02:08:49.000 I haven't heard about it in a while.

02:08:50.000 Yeah, Greenland is something we need to put a little bit more meme energy into.

02:08:53.000 I agree.

02:08:56.000 It's something that had a lot of momentum at one point and then it got kind of pushed down just due to a lot of this other stuff.

02:09:03.000 But again, long term investments.

02:09:05.000 We need long term investments.

02:09:07.000 I'd love to hear it.

02:09:07.000 Yeah, real.

02:09:08.000 We do have a story, but I don't want to dig into the story without Andrew being here because I think it's going to be good.

02:09:14.000 So can we, what do we do?

02:09:15.000 What do we do?

02:09:15.000 Can we read?

02:09:16.000 We can.

02:09:16.000 I can enter the story.

02:09:20.000 We're going to get it.

02:09:21.000 He'll be back in a second.

02:09:22.000 We can talk about Greenland for a second.

02:09:23.000 No, Greenland.

02:09:24.000 So what's interesting about Greenland is that I think everybody just sort of inherently knows that it would be a red state.

02:09:31.000 Like, there's, there'sn't any, there's, and it's also one of those things too, where like, if someone's a real, like, if you're a real MAGA, whatever, you know, MAGA Republican as opposed to just like an old school one, you know that Greenland is such a good idea.

02:09:46.000 It's a great idea.

02:09:47.000 Because like, it will get flooded with like mineral guys right away and it would flip it bright red.

02:09:51.000 True.

02:09:52.000 Because yeah, I mean, there was a little concern was like when they would ask the Inuit people there, they'd be like, Oh, we just hate the Danish.

02:09:58.000 So it's like an anti white thing for them.

02:09:59.000 But I'm like, That's not a problem.

02:10:00.000 We'll flood it with Texans. 1.00

02:10:02.000 It'll be great.

02:10:03.000 Where would it go?

02:10:04.000 Yeah.

02:10:04.000 We'll rename Nook to something like more American.

02:10:07.000 Yeah, it's a little, that's a little bit.

02:10:09.000 Too many consonants and vowels going on.

02:10:10.000 Like Franklin.

02:10:11.000 Yeah, like Franklin, we know.

02:10:12.000 It's a nice Nook.

02:10:14.000 Okay, we got to get, okay, Andrew's here.

02:10:15.000 So we got to get into this story because this, this was one that was going absolutely crazy online because someone was going absolutely crazy in real life.

02:10:25.000 A wrestler was brutally brutally beaten by Rampage Jackson's son.

02:10:31.000 Cite, no one is going to consent to broken bones.

02:10:35.000 Now actually the picture that's there, that's Rampage.

02:10:39.000 I didn't like that.

02:10:40.000 You know, who is an MMA champ, which Well, he's the famous one.

02:10:43.000 Yeah, he's more famous.

02:10:45.000 Do we have the video?

02:10:45.000 Do we have the actual video?

02:10:46.000 I don't have the video.

02:10:47.000 I don't know if we should.

02:10:48.000 I mean, at least we can show on Rumble.

02:10:49.000 I mean, we're on Rumble, man.

02:10:51.000 That's what I was thinking about earlier, because this is so brutal.

02:10:51.000 Let me get a play.

02:10:54.000 It's Quentin, right?

02:10:55.000 That's, um, well, the son is Raja.

02:10:59.000 Oh, Raja.

02:10:59.000 Oh, okay.

02:11:00.000 Yeah, the son is Raja.

02:11:14.000 The beatdown was just so insane.

02:11:17.000 Brutal, bro.

02:11:18.000 That, I mean, it was going crazy.

02:11:19.000 I think it would have gone viral even if it hadn't been in Sun.

02:11:22.000 I think that...

02:11:23.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:11:26.000 I'm just trying to pull the chat right now.

02:11:28.000 I'm trying to find a good video, which I couldn't look anywhere else but see that video last night, it seemed.

02:11:36.000 Let's see here.

02:11:38.000 I mean, I saw that video so many times.

02:11:40.000 Yeah, let's see.

02:11:40.000 It was crazy.

02:11:41.000 Sam retweeted it somehow recently.

02:11:43.000 Did he really?

02:11:44.000 Yeah.

02:11:45.000 Just go to X and put in Roger Jackson.

02:11:47.000 Yeah, I just want to bring up X for some reason.

02:11:50.000 It's just going to x.com, I guess.

02:11:52.000 I don't know why.

02:11:53.000 It seems crazy.

02:11:54.000 Did you reach it at all, Phil?

02:11:56.000 No, I didn't.

02:11:57.000 My app was glitching, so it might be down.

02:11:58.000 tim let's see if i can go to i don't like looking on this because tim's literal page so it's like um Okay.

02:12:08.000 Let's just look it up on the search.

02:12:10.000 Roger Jackson.

02:12:12.000 It's R-A-J-A, right? 1.00

02:12:13.000 Yeah.

02:12:14.000 I believe so.

02:12:16.000 Sure, we'll find it here in a second.

02:12:17.000 That's crazy.

02:12:18.000 When you put in Roger Jackson, he doesn't even come up at all.

02:12:21.000 Oh, are they suppressing it now?

02:12:22.000 They're suppress.

02:12:24.000 So there's the picks.

02:12:25.000 Here's the, here's the, we'll just show the scale part.

02:12:28.000 Yeah.

02:12:32.000 So what is wrong with this?

02:12:34.000 Did you show the first part?

02:12:36.000 It's copyright, but he's out.

02:12:38.000 So he's got all the other wrestlers trying to, like, you know, trying to get in there.

02:12:42.000 That dude, Joe.

02:12:43.000 He just keeps going.

02:12:45.000 This guy should have been, is really like failing.

02:12:47.000 This guy right here is a ref is completely failing at his job.

02:12:49.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

02:12:50.000 The ref should have put his finger on the shaft as well. 0.99

02:12:53.000 The guy, Rajin, the guy on the ground.

02:12:55.000 But this is all KFabe, right?

02:12:57.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I know.

02:12:59.000 I know this isn't, but wrestling is KFabe.

02:13:02.000 Yeah.

02:13:03.000 So is it does it stand a reason that the ref here may think that this is like he might not realize that he like ran I leave like in this clip and sheet he like ran on and that was the part that knocked him out right here if in case anyone's Yeah, that knocked him out completely.

02:13:18.000 So he hit him way and you could look at the guy in the background actually.

02:13:20.000 Yeah.

02:13:21.000 There's a guy in the background like you can see him right away.

02:13:23.000 He knows that something's wrong.

02:13:24.000 Like what are you doing?

02:13:25.000 This is not the ref the ref has seen enough matches or should have seen enough matches to know that that was real.

02:13:32.000 What's crazy is, look, this guy keeps pushing people off and still attempting to go pat on this guy in the pavement, which is insane.

02:13:38.000 So if I remember correctly from what I've seen is that this was a set up angle where obviously they were feuding.

02:13:45.000 And, you know, he had thrown a, you know, a beer bottle at him or something earlier.

02:13:50.000 A prop.

02:13:51.000 But it was a prop.

02:13:51.000 Yeah.

02:13:52.000 Yeah, it was a prop bottle.

02:13:53.000 And, you know, it's pro wrestling.

02:13:56.000 We know there's feuds, but it's, you know, it's scripted.

02:13:59.000 It is worked out in advance.

02:14:02.000 And that, you know, to add more to the, you know, add more to the what's in the ring.

02:14:09.000 if one of the things that I was hearing is that apparently this this wrestling promotion was one that they were really that WWE was actually really looking at for getting in indie talent.

02:14:25.000 And there is some like behind the scenes connective tissue between them and MME or WWE.

02:14:31.000 And so one of the issues is that you really did have people who probably should have known better when you were dealing with these types of people.

02:14:42.000 And in terms of like, okay, here's this guy, Raja, who has this MMA background.

02:14:48.000 He's like a real fighter.

02:14:51.000 But you're putting him in with guys who are, you know, they're training fighters.

02:14:55.000 But they do this with celebrities all the time., right?

02:14:57.000 Like wrestling federations and whatnot, They have.

02:15:00.000 That's how Trump got into the WWE.

02:15:02.000 Yeah, they have celebrity guests.

02:15:03.000 Trump has been in the ring, you know, like pile driving a guy before, you know what I mean?

02:15:07.000 They got Stone Cold Standard.

02:15:08.000 Yeah, they like they do this all the time.

02:15:11.000 So I'm not sure that I would really hold it against them that that they had this, you know, kind of minor celebrity on to promote whatever the match was.

02:15:20.000 And then they promote the drama.

02:15:23.000 There was a video.

02:15:24.000 There's also a video.

02:15:25.000 Which I think, wait, there's that.

02:15:26.000 There it is.

02:15:27.000 There you go.

02:15:27.000 This is Yeah.

02:15:29.000 This is the star of it.

02:15:30.000 I think that's what I think.

02:15:33.000 And it's a prop. 1.00

02:15:35.000 He's not a fucking worker, bro. 1.00

02:15:37.000 Oh, no. 1.00

02:15:37.000 Yeah, what the fuck was that? 1.00

02:15:38.000 You're good, you're good, you're good, you're good. 0.99

02:15:41.000 You hear him say he's not a rogue. 0.99

02:15:44.000 Bro, what the fuck was that? 0.99

02:15:46.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on. 1.00

02:15:47.000 I don't play that shit, bro. 1.00

02:15:48.000 No, sorry. 1.00

02:15:49.000 No, I will fuck him up. 1.00

02:15:50.000 I know, I know you will. 1.00

02:15:53.000 People are saying it's like his chat that pushed me to this, too.

02:15:56.000 Still doesn't excuse it, but...

02:15:59.000 It's because of this incident that I feel like he felt like I couldn't do it. 0.99

02:16:02.000 I do not play that shit at all. 0.98

02:16:03.000 Yeah, so worker in this context means like a wrestler. 1.00

02:16:06.000 That's what they kind of call it.

02:16:08.000 I'm not sure about that.

02:16:11.000 I'm not sure about that.

02:16:13.000 I think that's such a bizarre environment.

02:16:16.000 It looks like Bourbon Street.

02:16:17.000 I don't know if it was real or not.

02:16:18.000 I'm pretty sure that was real, 100%.

02:16:20.000 I mean, that's that's wrestling, right?

02:16:21.000 Yeah, that's like that's like a wrestling promotion.

02:16:23.000 Yeah, for me.

02:16:24.000 I don't think so.

02:16:24.000 I just hang on.

02:16:25.000 I thought I thought I had heard that that was actually a prop that just had sweater in it.

02:16:29.000 Yeah, the way that it if you like watch again, the way that it deflates like so fast.

02:16:35.000 That stuff doesn't look like it was painful at all. 0.99

02:16:39.000 He's not a fuck. 0.99

02:16:40.000 He's like squaring absolutely. 0.99

02:16:42.000 But there's another video where they're discussing it, right?

02:16:46.000 Isn't there another video where they're discussing it?

02:16:48.000 Yeah, there is.

02:16:49.000 I thought this was part of your video.

02:16:50.000 And he basically apologizes and they say, oh, we're good.

02:16:52.000 He's like, hey man, you know, I didn't really know.

02:16:54.000 I know I thought we were doing that.

02:16:56.000 Yeah, there was something like that.

02:16:57.000 That's what happened right there at the end of this though.

02:17:00.000 He said he saw it. 1.00

02:17:01.000 I will fuck him up. 1.00

02:17:03.000 I know you're talking about. 1.00

02:17:06.000 They're sitting down and talking.

02:17:07.000 It's crazier is like the videos afterwards. 1.00

02:17:09.000 Oh fuck, he's playing with me, bro. 0.99

02:17:11.000 Yeah, he's watching. 1.00

02:17:12.000 One of them will probably be playing with me. 1.00

02:17:12.000 Real shit. 1.00

02:17:15.000 Shout out to everybody fucking playing with me and shit. 1.00

02:17:15.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:17:17.000 I think I'm always playing and shit. 1.00

02:17:19.000 Call me bits and shit. 1.00

02:17:20.000 No fucking bits, bro. 1.00

02:17:22.000 Wait, wait, pause the video. 1.00

02:17:24.000 Look at the comment here.

02:17:25.000 This is interesting.

02:17:26.000 Raja Jackson and his actions are the epitome of fragile masculinity and how young men are being taught to act with aggression above all. 0.98

02:17:34.000 It's ridiculous. 0.96

02:17:35.000 Violence is not what makes a man and every grown man who teaches their son that is is shameful. 0.98

02:17:40.000 And then the first comment under that raised by women. 1.00

02:17:42.000 Yeah.

02:17:43.000 Well, the thing is, we've seen this type.

02:17:46.000 Well, maybe not to this degree usually, but we've seen this type of crash out happen from streamers before on the kick side, Twitch, things like this, where their chat literally drives them crazy, right?

02:17:57.000 They call them low cows for a reason.

02:17:59.000 Right.

02:17:59.000 And you're going in and milking them, right?

02:18:01.000 That's the whole point.

02:18:02.000 We're going to milk the content.

02:18:03.000 And so they'll they'll find pressure points and then they'll hit those pressure points. 1.00

02:18:08.000 And the idea is to make the person lose their shit. 0.99

02:18:12.000 And the chat was kind of aggressively going after him before this confrontation, telling him, how could you let that guy do that to you? 1.00

02:18:20.000 You're a bitch, you're a piece of shit poser, you know what I mean? 1.00

02:18:23.000 You ain't nobody. 1.00

02:18:24.000 Oh, wow.

02:18:25.000 And essentially egging him on.

02:18:28.000 And so when the confrontation actually happens, he lost it, right?

02:18:31.000 He's trying to prove all these guys wrong.

02:18:33.000 He's going to show them.

02:18:35.000 And they got exactly what they wanted.

02:18:36.000 They lived up to his dad's recognition.

02:18:38.000 Yeah.

02:18:38.000 And they got him exactly how they wanted him, which was to lose it and get in serious and significant trouble.

02:18:45.000 There's a lot of people who are laughing tonight, online trolls. 1.00

02:18:49.000 who orchestrated this essentially and this idiot fell for it. 1.00

02:18:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:53.000 And he's going to go to jail for a long time and he deserves to.

02:18:56.000 Yeah.

02:18:57.000 All right.

02:18:58.000 We can go to callers now.

02:18:59.000 Yeah.

02:18:59.000 And by the way, I would agree that, you know, with you, the LA, I don't know who exactly who the LA Times was quoting when we had that up earlier, but saying like, you know, should he face charges?

02:19:10.000 Of course he should.

02:19:11.000 Of course.

02:19:12.000 There's no question.

02:19:12.000 You can't consent to broken bones.

02:19:14.000 That's exactly right.

02:19:15.000 You know, that anything that he agreed to in terms of, you know, hey, we're going to be in this together.

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