Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 22, 2025


Trump PARDONS Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht w-Dominik Tarczynski & Thomas Massie | Timcast IRL


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 4 minutes

Words per Minute

177.12599

Word Count

22,002

Sentence Count

1,810

Misogynist Sentences

27

Hate Speech Sentences

60


Summary

Donald Trump has pardoned the founder of Silk Road, Ross Ulbricht. This is a huge victory for the liberty movement, and we're here to talk about it. We're joined by Polish MP, Dominic Tarchinksi, to discuss this and much more.


Transcript

00:00:11.000 Donald Trump has kept a lot of promises already.
00:00:15.000 It's strange because with securing the border or writing these executive actions, I feel good.
00:00:21.000 With his executive order on the biological differences in sexes, I feel good.
00:00:27.000 Pardoning the J6ers was tremendous, and I feel great.
00:00:32.000 But Donald Trump has kept his word and pardoned the founder of Silk Road, Ross Ulbricht.
00:00:38.000 And this one is tremendously emotional for so many people, and it's kind of strange that this one hits us so hard.
00:00:44.000 But if you know the story of Silk Road and how they went after this guy, it really does feel like the weaponization of government set examples to punish individuals.
00:00:52.000 This guy basically went to prison for things other people did.
00:00:56.000 he's now been pardoned.
00:00:58.000 And Donald Trump issuing a statement said, you know, to keep, essentially, thanks to the libertarian movement that supported him so strongly, he is keeping his word and issuing an unconditional pardon for Ross Ulbricht, not even a commutation.
00:01:10.000 And I just want to say with that, this one mattered to a lot of people so much because of what the story represented, what it meant to Ross as an individual, his family.
00:01:19.000 And Donald Trump is keeping his word to those that supported him.
00:01:24.000 This is a massive story.
00:01:26.000 I do feel it's a bit esoteric.
00:01:29.000 The average person may not truly understand what this means or why it's so substantial, but...
00:01:33.000 This one really tugs at your heartstrings.
00:01:35.000 Donald Trump keeping his word.
00:01:37.000 Man, I feel like this might be the first real president, real leader in my lifetime.
00:01:42.000 And so we have a lot to go over.
00:01:44.000 We have a lot of tremendous guests.
00:01:46.000 Before we get started, my friends, of course, the promos.
00:01:48.000 Cast Brew Coffee.
00:01:49.000 How much you want to bet Ian's got no coffee left?
00:01:52.000 Ian's Graphene Dream.
00:01:53.000 612 bags remain.
00:01:55.000 I don't know how this guy does it.
00:01:56.000 He sold 5,350 bags in a month.
00:01:59.000 It's low acidity.
00:02:00.000 But don't sell yourself short.
00:02:01.000 You do a lot of the work.
00:02:02.000 Yeah, but I mean, none of the other coffees sell nearly as...
00:02:05.000 I mean...
00:02:06.000 Get your low-acidity coffee if you haven't had it yet.
00:02:08.000 It's real easy on the stomach compared to the other stuff.
00:02:10.000 Phil has coffee as well, two weeks till Christmas.
00:02:12.000 He's dressed like Santa.
00:02:13.000 We actually don't have the stats on how much he sold, but I think he sold quite a bit, but Ian's goes like hotcakes.
00:02:19.000 Also, check out boonieshq.com.
00:02:21.000 I'd say pick up your 28th Amendment skateboard, the right to keep, bear, and breed chickens.
00:02:27.000 But unfortunately, we're sold out.
00:02:29.000 So thank you all for buying that.
00:02:30.000 We still have the right, I'm sorry, we're sold out of the right to arm bears as well.
00:02:34.000 Okay, the boobies!
00:02:36.000 There we go.
00:02:37.000 The boobies is still available.
00:02:38.000 The blue-footed booby bird.
00:02:39.000 And I do believe we have Step on Snack and Find Out in stock.
00:02:43.000 If you haven't gotten your Step on Snack and Find Out, you can grab that.
00:02:45.000 Of course, as always, become a member at TimCast.com.
00:02:48.000 I've got to shout this one out, my friends.
00:02:50.000 We have an amazing guest, Dominic Tarchinski.
00:02:53.000 The best MP in Europe, and we had an amazing conversation before the show for our Green Room members only.
00:03:01.000 You are not going to want to miss this, talking about the Soviet era, what it was like in Poland, what Poland is going through now, why Poland has resisted the woke internationalist insanity.
00:03:11.000 And we will talk a little bit about it tonight as well, but this was a really great episode, and I believe it's about 40 minutes or so.
00:03:17.000 So become a member at TimCast.com to watch that and also get access to our Discord community where you can hang out with over 20,000 different individuals, make friends.
00:03:26.000 There's a massive library of content, early morning shows, pre-shows, after shows, etc.
00:03:30.000 Don't forget to also smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
00:03:34.000 And joining us tonight, we have a massive panel of truly amazing guests.
00:03:38.000 As I mentioned, European Member of Parliament, Dominic Tartczynski.
00:03:43.000 Good evening, good morning, whenever you are.
00:03:45.000 Thank you for watching.
00:03:47.000 I guess with your title, people generally understand who you are, but do you have a brief introduction about what you do?
00:03:52.000 I'm a lawyer from Poland, serving for Polish Parliament for two terms.
00:03:59.000 Now elected to European Parliament, second term.
00:04:03.000 I'm doing my PhD in international law on genocide, especially cultural genocide.
00:04:13.000 Main thing now is the European Parliament and fighting for freedom.
00:04:17.000 That's how I would describe it, to be honest.
00:04:20.000 And you were here to support Trump?
00:04:23.000 Well, first of all, to support him during the campaign and now celebrate.
00:04:28.000 We work hard and it's time to celebrate.
00:04:30.000 But also, I'm very happy.
00:04:33.000 I'm really thankful for having me.
00:04:35.000 I'm just wondering how he's going to deliver.
00:04:37.000 Because we worked hard, we fought for...
00:04:40.000 Whatever happened.
00:04:42.000 For the victory, actually.
00:04:43.000 And now it's time to pray to support him.
00:04:46.000 We have to pray.
00:04:47.000 I'm serious about it because it's not going to be easy.
00:04:50.000 He promised a lot.
00:04:53.000 And what they left is a lot.
00:04:56.000 Right on.
00:04:56.000 Well, I'm glad to have you.
00:04:58.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.
00:04:59.000 And then we, of course, have the best member of American Congress.
00:05:02.000 We have Rep.
00:05:02.000 Thomas Massey.
00:05:03.000 The American Parliament, if you will, Dominic.
00:05:06.000 One day.
00:05:07.000 Yes, one day.
00:05:08.000 You know, we pretend there's only two parties in our country, but we shoehorn at least six different parties into those two parties.
00:05:19.000 And I'm kind of, some days, a party unto myself within the Republican Party, I feel like.
00:05:25.000 I tell people I'm not bipartisan.
00:05:28.000 Bi means you like both.
00:05:30.000 Trans, I'm transpartisan.
00:05:32.000 You better be careful now with this.
00:05:35.000 People call me trans because I'm transpartisan.
00:05:38.000 I don't know which cloakroom to go into some days.
00:05:42.000 I think there's an executive order against that.
00:05:45.000 At least political.
00:05:47.000 Introducing himself then as Conor Tomlinson.
00:05:49.000 Yeah, hello everyone.
00:05:50.000 I'm back.
00:05:50.000 I'm paying homage to the ascendant emperor visiting the capital.
00:05:54.000 Everyone's open carrying Trump paraphernalia now.
00:05:56.000 It's fantastic to see.
00:05:57.000 The MAGA hats are everywhere.
00:05:58.000 I know.
00:05:59.000 I've spoken to at least three foreign Uber drivers that have said he's going to do no more wars and deport all illegals, and it's great.
00:06:04.000 So I'm just hoping it cross-pollinates over to...
00:06:07.000 The woke North Korea that the UK has become.
00:06:10.000 I feel like Solzhenitsyn visiting the US here.
00:06:11.000 Wow.
00:06:12.000 So who are you?
00:06:13.000 What do you do?
00:06:13.000 I am a writer for Ian Hirsi Ali's Courage Media.
00:06:16.000 I host Tomlinson Talks over at LotusEaters.com.
00:06:19.000 I host Deprogrammed at the New Culture Forum.
00:06:20.000 General internet troublemaker these days.
00:06:23.000 Right on.
00:06:24.000 Josie the red-headed libertarian is here.
00:06:25.000 Hi, I'm Josie.
00:06:26.000 I'm the red-headed libertarian.
00:06:28.000 Can you hear me okay?
00:06:29.000 Yeah.
00:06:30.000 Okay, good.
00:06:30.000 I'm Josie.
00:06:31.000 I'm the red-headed libertarian.
00:06:32.000 I host a show on X called Spaces with Josie, where I interview the coolest people on the planet, and I also have a channel on YouTube called 1776XJosie, where I educate people on revolutionary history because their teachers failed to do so.
00:06:44.000 And then, of course, because as a condition of Rhett Massey's appearance, he insisted this man be here.
00:06:50.000 That's true.
00:06:50.000 Thanks, Tom.
00:06:52.000 You made it happen.
00:06:53.000 Hey, Ian Cross, I'm happy to be here.
00:06:54.000 You know, reoccurring co-host of Timcast IRL. I've been making internet videos since 2006. I care deeply about communication, being real, and being honest, and listening.
00:07:03.000 That was something I learned early on.
00:07:04.000 It's how important it is to listen.
00:07:05.000 So I'm going to be doing that for the next hour.
00:07:07.000 Then Phil Labonte, the one and only, will be stepping in for me.
00:07:10.000 So let's get rolling, Tim.
00:07:11.000 Here's the big story.
00:07:13.000 And I'm glad that we have this great panel who can really break this down.
00:07:17.000 From The Hill, Trump pardons Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht.
00:07:21.000 President Trump said Tuesday he had signed a full pardon for Ross Ulbricht, the founder of the scandalous online marketplace Silk Road, fulfilling a campaign promise Trump had made to Libertarian voters.
00:07:31.000 I do believe I have the official statement here in a tweet from Thomas Massey, in fact.
00:07:36.000 Trump said, I just called the mother of Ross William Ulbricht to let her know that in honor of her and the Libertarian movement which supported me so strongly, it was my pleasure to have just signed a full and unconditional pardon of her son Ross.
00:07:49.000 The scum that worked to convict him were some of the same lunatics who were involved in the modern-day weaponization of government against me.
00:07:56.000 He was given two life sentences plus 40 years.
00:07:59.000 Ridiculous.
00:08:00.000 First off, for Donald Trump to keep his word on not just this but so many other things, I saw so many J6ers the other day who had smiles on their faces.
00:08:14.000 These were insane and unjust prosecutions, persecutions.
00:08:19.000 And now with the pardoning of Ross Albright, it is an honor to have Donald Trump be serving as our president and keeping his word.
00:08:27.000 But, Rep Massey, I know, can you break down why this case is so important, why it was so insane, and why this matters?
00:08:34.000 Well, I don't think this matters, but there is a typo in Trump's tweet there that it's supposed to be Albrecht.
00:08:39.000 But I hope he still gets the pardon.
00:08:43.000 Oh, no.
00:08:44.000 But, no, you know, when I think about this, I'm thinking of a phrase in my head, make libertarians relevant again.
00:08:52.000 And a lot of times, the only way libertarians are relevant in elections is to be the spoiler in a close race.
00:08:58.000 Maybe they take some of the votes away, like the Green Party might do to Democrats.
00:09:03.000 But in this case, Angela McArdle, the chair of the Libertarian Party, decided to reach out, invited Trump to the Libertarian National Convention, where he spoke and he made this pledge.
00:09:15.000 That he would free Ross Albright.
00:09:17.000 So I think that's a big deal.
00:09:19.000 That contributed to this.
00:09:20.000 I decided two weeks before the election to endorse Trump myself.
00:09:25.000 And I called him up, and he answered the phone.
00:09:29.000 We talked a little bit, and I said, well, what should my endorsement say?
00:09:33.000 And he brought up Ross to me.
00:09:37.000 And so he said, you know, you could put that in your endorsement.
00:09:41.000 And I thought, well, that would be a good way to lock this in.
00:09:43.000 So I did.
00:09:44.000 I put it in my endorsement.
00:09:46.000 In the middle of my endorsement is a sentence that says, you know, the president has committed to freeing Ross Ulbrich.
00:09:53.000 And then President Trump retweeted my endorsement.
00:09:57.000 It's not legally binding, but it really, I think, made it more solid.
00:10:02.000 And I was, you know, just based on my personal conversation with President Trump, I was certain he was going to keep his word on this.
00:10:08.000 And to me, this is a litmus test, really.
00:10:12.000 Are you going to convert those campaign promises into reality?
00:10:15.000 Because once you get elected, it's hard to hold people accountable.
00:10:19.000 I was worried.
00:10:21.000 I mean, it has been over 24 hours.
00:10:23.000 He was even getting some flack from Fox News for not having done it sooner, but he did.
00:10:27.000 He's kept his word on so many things.
00:10:29.000 Well, and I want to share with you a letter that Ross wrote me on December 14th of this year.
00:10:36.000 And his mom, Lynn, gave this to me.
00:10:39.000 And I hope he doesn't mad me sharing this because it's personal, but it brought a tear to my eye.
00:10:45.000 Mr. Massey, Inauguration Day fast approaches and my hopes are running high that our new president will quickly put an end to my incarceration once he is sworn in.
00:10:54.000 As I await the beginning of my new life in freedom, I just want to acknowledge you and thank you for your part in bringing about this wonderful outcome.
00:11:02.000 You have consistently been a powerful voice in the public sphere, supporting my campaign for freedom, so my imminent release is as much a victory for you as it is for me and my family.
00:11:13.000 Thank you for every single time you supported me, both publicly and in private.
00:11:19.000 You put your faith and confidence in me, and now that I'm getting my second chance, I promise to make you proud that you did.
00:11:25.000 I would love to connect with you once I am on the other side of these walls to see how I can help further the cause of freedom.
00:11:32.000 So he's already thinking about what he can do.
00:11:35.000 I know, Josie's crying.
00:11:36.000 I cried when I read this.
00:11:37.000 I've read it twice, practiced it without crying.
00:11:41.000 This is the first time I've been able to read it without crying.
00:11:45.000 Because this is, like you were saying, Tim, this is a personal example of how an election matters down to somebody who was going to rot in prison, was rotting in prison.
00:11:58.000 And by the way, Ross...
00:12:00.000 He was willing to settle for less than what Trump gave him.
00:12:05.000 He was willing to settle to have a sentence commuted, which means you're basically guilty, an admission of guilt, but your sentence is over.
00:12:15.000 You've served enough time.
00:12:16.000 And it was a ridiculous over-sentencing, regardless of the guilt or not.
00:12:21.000 I think it's a violation of the Eighth Amendment.
00:12:23.000 The Eighth Amendment to our Constitution says no cruel or unusual punishment.
00:12:28.000 Why should you get two life sentences plus 40 years?
00:12:31.000 Well, explain what was he accused of doing.
00:12:35.000 Running a website that allowed people to buy and sell drugs, for instance, using Bitcoin.
00:12:40.000 I think they made an example out of him because they didn't want people using Bitcoin.
00:12:46.000 And now it's far more mainstream, but I think that's one of the reasons they did it.
00:12:51.000 But I think we should clarify, I guess, the website allowed people to buy and trade.
00:12:56.000 What people did with it after the fact was what the people did with it.
00:12:59.000 Well, MasterCard lets you pay for prostitutes, right?
00:13:03.000 I mean, you can't...
00:13:05.000 And obviously he was trying to enable a broader set of trade, but I think it was ridiculous over-sentencing.
00:13:14.000 And here's another example why it was.
00:13:15.000 Everybody who committed a crime using that website is already free.
00:13:20.000 Yeah, lesser sentences.
00:13:21.000 Lesser sentences than him running the website.
00:13:23.000 So this was an attack.
00:13:25.000 On freedom of speech, really, to some degree, being able to run this website, but also on Bitcoin and alternate currencies.
00:13:33.000 And Ross was the scapegoat.
00:13:35.000 He was the example.
00:13:36.000 They wanted to make an example.
00:13:38.000 By the way, the people who Trump alludes to the moral depravity of the people who convicted Ross, the FBI investigators or whatever, some of those...
00:13:52.000 We're convicted themselves of lying and setting up evidence.
00:13:56.000 And they're already out as well, but they were the ones who were trying to set Ross up in some of these things.
00:14:03.000 And then there was a public smear campaign against Ross that scared a lot of people away, a lot of congressmen, from trying to take up his cause.
00:14:13.000 Oh my gosh, Ross did that?
00:14:15.000 Oh, he tried to order a hit on somebody?
00:14:17.000 Like, that was one of the claims that was made.
00:14:19.000 Never prosecuted, never brought up in court.
00:14:21.000 I guarantee you, if they had any evidence of that, they would have used it to convict him for another life sentence.
00:14:27.000 Obviously, they were throwing the book at him, but because they had those stories out there circulating that Ross tried to order a hit on somebody, for instance, that scared people away from taking up Ross's cause.
00:14:38.000 Now, there was a letter circulated among Congress that got a few dozen signatures.
00:14:43.000 Some people who weren't scared of it, but this is just a great win.
00:14:50.000 I know Dominic's celebrating the victory, and this is one of the realizations of that victory.
00:14:57.000 Freedom, physical freedom, but also our brains, our mentality is freed now.
00:15:05.000 I'm serious about it, because we had this conversation before the show.
00:15:10.000 I had this experience with this driver, Uber driver, who told me, he said, okay, now I'm going to fight with all these leftist teachers who try to deprive and do these things to my daughter.
00:15:23.000 And I was thinking, where were you for four years?
00:15:27.000 He was scared.
00:15:29.000 Now we are free.
00:15:31.000 Now we can experience what the life is.
00:15:34.000 We can fight for what we believe in.
00:15:36.000 So this victory, It's not about President Trump.
00:15:42.000 Only.
00:15:43.000 It's about us, obviously.
00:15:44.000 About nations.
00:15:46.000 About not only American nations.
00:15:48.000 It's about freedom in general around the world.
00:15:51.000 Because as we see ourselves as a Western civilization, as the free democratic countries, we see the differences between North Korea, Venezuela and others.
00:16:03.000 Russia.
00:16:04.000 We are free.
00:16:05.000 We are fully free.
00:16:07.000 So what this victory...
00:16:09.000 The answer to the people around the world is opens.
00:16:13.000 Let you breathe.
00:16:15.000 Now you can say whatever you think.
00:16:17.000 Especially you can say that there are two genders.
00:16:21.000 Women and men.
00:16:23.000 You can say obvious facts.
00:16:26.000 You know, you can...
00:16:27.000 I mean, there's many people who think that the earth is flat.
00:16:31.000 They're free.
00:16:32.000 They can think whatever they want.
00:16:34.000 I'm not going to discuss this.
00:16:35.000 But you can say whatever you want.
00:16:38.000 Now, and this Uber driver is one of the examples from the recent days, ours, I would say, when I spot the difference.
00:16:46.000 Like people, thank God, now.
00:16:49.000 So what happened these last four years?
00:16:53.000 What they've done to the nations?
00:16:56.000 Because it's applicable to Europe as well.
00:17:01.000 What they did was, I cannot say that this child...
00:17:05.000 This little kid who thinks that as a cat or dog should be, you know, should be educated that you are not a dog because someone would be offended.
00:17:16.000 Our civilization went to the level where everyone was scared to name and call the obvious facts.
00:17:24.000 Now we can go back to normality.
00:17:26.000 That's why he said, Donald Trump said that we are not Republicans.
00:17:35.000 It's the party of the common sense.
00:17:37.000 It wasn't about Republicans and Democrats in general.
00:17:40.000 In my opinion, it was about common sense, right?
00:17:45.000 Women and men.
00:17:47.000 That was very, very obvious.
00:17:49.000 Security, safety.
00:17:50.000 That was my discussion when I was on election night on one of the shows, and one of the leftists asked me, who the hell is this guy?
00:18:02.000 During the debate, what are you doing in here?
00:18:05.000 Why do you care about U.S.? Why are you chanting U.S.? You're not U.S. citizen.
00:18:09.000 How come you're here?
00:18:11.000 And my answer was, I was invited to U.S. and I came here with my passport.
00:18:18.000 So migration was the huge problem.
00:18:22.000 It is a global problem.
00:18:24.000 Europe has this problem for years.
00:18:26.000 U.S. had this problem for years.
00:18:28.000 Only because of leftism, the ideology.
00:18:32.000 The other thing is climate.
00:18:34.000 People went mad.
00:18:35.000 They found a new God.
00:18:37.000 They found a new God.
00:18:39.000 Climate.
00:18:40.000 We had this conversation about the women who don't want to have children.
00:18:46.000 They want to depopulize our planet.
00:18:50.000 Because the planet is on the flame.
00:18:54.000 It's burning.
00:18:55.000 We have to save the planet, so let's abort babies, or not have babies, because we have to save the planet.
00:19:03.000 But for you in Europe, you were saying this to me earlier, that what happens here, six months later, happens in Europe.
00:19:09.000 So a Trump victory here.
00:19:10.000 Actually, I think we said Brexit happened, and then Trump won the first time.
00:19:14.000 They had enough.
00:19:15.000 They just had enough.
00:19:17.000 And they were criticized, like Great Britain, England was...
00:19:23.000 Was criticized for leaving EU and obviously Nigel was called Russian asset and this awakening of European Union is in favor of Russia and all this crap.
00:19:36.000 They did not consider this decision as a fruit, an effect of leftism within the European Union.
00:19:46.000 Totalitarian way of behaving.
00:19:50.000 When I was asked, why do you care about America?
00:19:54.000 Why do you spend so much time in America?
00:19:56.000 Why do you fight for Trump?
00:19:58.000 Why do you spend time with Americans?
00:20:00.000 They don't elect you.
00:20:02.000 They don't vote for you.
00:20:04.000 That was the actual question I was asked.
00:20:05.000 And I said, because I care about my family.
00:20:08.000 I care about my homeland.
00:20:10.000 Because whatever happens in America, it happens in Europe.
00:20:13.000 If America is weak, Europe is weak.
00:20:15.000 If Europe is weak, Poland is under threat between Russia and Germany.
00:20:20.000 What do you think, Connor?
00:20:21.000 I love how people go, why do you care so much about American politics?
00:20:24.000 Oh, by the way, NATO, can you bail us out of this?
00:20:26.000 That's right, that's right.
00:20:28.000 As far as the Ross Ulbricht story, I do find it very curious how Meta, as a platform, was found by the Wall Street Journal in 2023 to be facilitating child trafficking and knowing that they were doing it because they were putting up warnings saying...
00:20:40.000 Hey, this post might redirect you to a dodgy site that might be selling children.
00:20:44.000 Are you sure you want to click on it, Robert?
00:20:46.000 Or a story that I broke in late 2023 for GB News as well.
00:20:51.000 Instagram was being used by people trafficking organisations, mainly in North Africa, to market their services to asylum seekers, illegal migrants, to break into Britain via the English Channel.
00:21:01.000 And alongside these videos of young men using their services were images and videos of young women in various states of wearing short skirts and having too much to drink out on a night out in the UK.
00:21:15.000 And they were essentially advertising young English women as the spoils of war for illegal migrants to come over and claim.
00:21:20.000 Again, Instagram alerted to this.
00:21:23.000 Did nothing.
00:21:24.000 So why are they not prosecuted with the same standard of facilitating illegal activity as Ross Ulbricht was?
00:21:31.000 Very curious that I wonder if it's just lobbying efforts or the fact that certain politicians could trade on narrative control.
00:21:37.000 Let me speak to...
00:21:38.000 An example of that.
00:21:39.000 So somebody created a profile being a fake Thomas Massey congressman and was contacting widows and trying to get their retirement money.
00:21:51.000 That happens all the time.
00:21:53.000 Yeah.
00:21:53.000 Wow.
00:21:53.000 And so I call up Facebook and they act like they can't stop it.
00:21:58.000 And they said, well...
00:22:00.000 We don't know.
00:22:01.000 We can't see it.
00:22:01.000 I said, they're using the same picture as me.
00:22:03.000 You've got some image search thing.
00:22:05.000 You can go find this.
00:22:05.000 They acted like they couldn't.
00:22:06.000 They said, go call the old lady that lost her money and tell her to pull up her computer screen and give us the exact URL. I'm like, if she knew the URL, she wouldn't have been defrauded of the money.
00:22:18.000 And we got it taken down.
00:22:20.000 And then another one came back up.
00:22:22.000 Whenever they come back up after you get them taken down, you know they're making money or they wouldn't go to the effort.
00:22:27.000 But they tried to pretend that they had no technology to stop this from happening, and I know it was a lie.
00:22:34.000 I want to jump to this story from the Post Millennial.
00:22:37.000 D.C. jail holding out on releasing J6ers after Trump issues pardons.
00:22:42.000 Quote, of course, D.C. Gulag is holding out because it's what they do.
00:22:46.000 Kelly told Bannon that in the wake of the pardons issued by Trump, J6ers are gradually being released from federal prisons across the country.
00:22:53.000 Of course, D.C. Gulag is holding out because that's what they do.
00:22:57.000 Because this is a political gulag.
00:22:58.000 So they're going to do whatever they can to extend the torment of Trump supporters in custody there.
00:23:04.000 We've heard a bunch of stories of there were some individuals that were being processed for release, stopped, turned around and brought back to their cells.
00:23:11.000 And I'm curious if you understand why it's happening or if anybody's familiar.
00:23:16.000 What are the excuses they're giving or should these people just be released?
00:23:20.000 It's the language.
00:23:21.000 So the language says he needed pardons for everybody who's been What did he say?
00:23:27.000 Charged or convicted?
00:23:28.000 Yep.
00:23:29.000 Convicted.
00:23:29.000 But then after that, it was like the rest of them that hadn't gotten that far, it needed to be approved by the DOJ, and that wasn't going to happen until the next morning.
00:23:38.000 So I don't know if this...
00:23:39.000 And some of them are on the probation, so...
00:23:42.000 Yes.
00:23:42.000 So I don't know if this got corrected today or if this is still...
00:23:47.000 Accurate.
00:23:48.000 It was the language.
00:23:49.000 They were using semantics on the language in order to...
00:23:52.000 There's another individual who was, I believe, was initially arrested over J6, but then they found a grenade or something to that effect.
00:23:59.000 Are you familiar with this story?
00:24:00.000 Did they really, though?
00:24:02.000 Did they really, though?
00:24:03.000 Either way, because the charges are not specifically J6, there are some people who were clearly arrested over this who have not yet been released.
00:24:12.000 I think you said what?
00:24:13.000 Against the order.
00:24:14.000 I mean, those who are not released, because I had a meeting with the guys who just left this morning.
00:24:20.000 They had their first breakfast, yeah.
00:24:23.000 And they are on the probation.
00:24:25.000 There are different conditions, but the stories are horrific.
00:24:31.000 What they went through, physical state, mental state, some of them are on the crutches, as you can see, yeah.
00:24:39.000 So physically, they are devastated.
00:24:43.000 And that was, I mean, I think someone should do documentary, documenting their stories and testimonies as soon as possible.
00:24:54.000 Because for us, they are, you know, J6ers, right?
00:25:00.000 That's it, J6ers.
00:25:01.000 But when you hear the personal story, what they went through, through all these years, all this time, I would call it torture.
00:25:11.000 When, as a lawyer, From what I heard, they went through torture, which is against international law.
00:25:16.000 Those responsible should pay consequences for what they have done.
00:25:20.000 What's some of the horrible, like what was like the most horrible?
00:25:22.000 I don't want to say that, but it was physically really bad.
00:25:27.000 Really bad.
00:25:28.000 Outside of the more extreme stories, there are simple ones like people being put in extended solitary confinement and not given proper meals or exercise.
00:25:35.000 And that's the part, by the international law, that's the part of the torture.
00:25:38.000 Because everyone thinks that torture is when you lose your nails.
00:25:41.000 No, when you are not getting food, water, when you are not taking care as the way you should be by the law, that's the part of the torture.
00:25:52.000 So you don't have to be in Guantanamo to go through torture.
00:25:57.000 It's completely different.
00:25:58.000 By the international law, it's very serious.
00:26:00.000 I have a breaking news.
00:26:02.000 U.S. trades Taliban prisoner for American detainees Ryan Corbett and William Wallace McEntee.
00:26:10.000 Trump's just getting a lot done real fast, huh?
00:26:13.000 Yeah.
00:26:14.000 You asked me what I think, what is going to happen, and I said he has to provide.
00:26:20.000 He says day one, and he meant it.
00:26:24.000 Like 200 executive orders, day one.
00:26:28.000 What he did now on day one is much more than Democrats did.
00:26:33.000 Oh, sorry.
00:26:34.000 It's not more.
00:26:34.000 Wrong.
00:26:35.000 Let me say again.
00:26:37.000 They did so much damage.
00:26:40.000 And he, in one day, made so much good that these three things, gender equality, which means two genders, then pardoning people who went through torture, who only wanted to experience their own freedom.
00:26:59.000 Now, illegal migrants, like starting with deportation, thank God that's the third thing.
00:27:06.000 And what was the most important thing during this debate?
00:27:10.000 What we had to discuss through all these months and years, I would say.
00:27:14.000 Illegal migrants, J6ers, and energy, right?
00:27:21.000 What he did, one of the first executive orders was get rid of this Paris Agreement.
00:27:29.000 Bravo, Mr. President.
00:27:30.000 I'd love to do the same.
00:27:31.000 If I would be President, I would do it the same day one.
00:27:34.000 I like the way that he was doing it, too, because there's a video, and if you haven't seen it, you should watch it.
00:27:39.000 It was transparent.
00:27:40.000 He sat down at his desk with a bunch of reporters, signing executive order, talking to the reporters, chilling out.
00:27:45.000 We missed this for four years.
00:27:47.000 We didn't have a president that talked to people.
00:27:49.000 And then he asked them, how many press conferences Biden did like this?
00:27:52.000 And they went, zero.
00:27:54.000 I love zero.
00:27:55.000 Brett Massey, I mean, you're more libertarian.
00:27:56.000 How do you feel about these executive orders?
00:27:58.000 Well, I was in the rotunda.
00:28:00.000 You know, they had to move the inauguration inside.
00:28:02.000 So I was in there and had a fairly good seat.
00:28:05.000 And when you're sitting there, you have to decide where you're going to stand up and clap for.
00:28:09.000 And I'm not one of these people that looks and sees everybody else standing up.
00:28:13.000 If he says something, you know, reinstating the members of the military who were thrown out because of the vaccine mandate.
00:28:21.000 That was a big one for me.
00:28:23.000 Another one is stop fighting wars that aren't ours.
00:28:27.000 Get back to focusing on America.
00:28:30.000 And I think he's already starting to deliver on that in the Middle East with negotiating.
00:28:35.000 He's got somebody over there who's negotiating the day before he was sworn in, the release of some of the hostages in Gaza.
00:28:41.000 But I think more importantly, an end to that war.
00:28:44.000 And so I think that's the other promise.
00:28:48.000 I remember a phone call I had with Trump when he was president number 45, and we had this controversial vote on Iran.
00:28:56.000 He wasn't really in agreement with the way I was going to vote.
00:29:00.000 And I respect his opinion.
00:29:02.000 Basically, the issue was this.
00:29:04.000 They had taken out Soleimani in Iraq, not in Iran.
00:29:07.000 And the question was, could he strike mainland Iran?
00:29:10.000 And the Democrats were not sincere in their effort, but they put a piece of legislation on the floor that says you can't go to war with Iran without a vote of Congress.
00:29:18.000 Well, that's just patently obvious to me.
00:29:20.000 But there were only three Republicans that voted for that.
00:29:23.000 All the Democrats voted for it.
00:29:25.000 They were just trying to embarrass Trump.
00:29:26.000 That's in the Constitution that you can't go to war without a vote from Congress.
00:29:31.000 So the president called me.
00:29:33.000 He caught wind that I was going to be voting for that resolution.
00:29:39.000 And I thanked him.
00:29:42.000 I tried to diffuse the situation a little bit.
00:29:45.000 I just said, look, you're the first president since I've been old enough to vote who hasn't started a war.
00:29:50.000 And I really appreciate that.
00:29:52.000 And he was thankful that I acknowledged it, but I said, I just can't be with you on this vote today.
00:29:57.000 I don't care if it's Obama who's president or your president.
00:30:01.000 It's Congress's role to declare war or not.
00:30:04.000 And his argument to me was, if you give me more authority or don't tie my hands, I can basically carry a bigger stick and keep us out of war.
00:30:16.000 And my argument back was, well...
00:30:19.000 If we allow you to make a bigger, I wouldn't say bluff, because it could eventually turn into something.
00:30:24.000 If we allow you to make a bigger threat, but we give up our ability to stop it, then if they call your threat, we're in a full-blown war, and we've already given up our ability as Congress to say we can't be in that war.
00:30:40.000 So I ultimately didn't have his favor that day, because I did vote.
00:30:45.000 Unfortunately, I did vote.
00:30:47.000 For a resolution the Democrats put on the floor, but was one that says he can't go to war without an act of Congress.
00:30:53.000 This is like since the Patriot Act, they've been, like George Bush was declaring, hey, Afghanistan.
00:30:58.000 Since World War II, I believe, was the last time he declared war.
00:31:00.000 Yeah, Vietnam was just a peacekeeping action on paper.
00:31:03.000 But under AUMF, it all got sketchy about how much power the president actually has to declare war, you know?
00:31:09.000 But they, yeah, there's been about 80 conflicts that have been war-related.
00:31:14.000 That have not been voted on by Congress because the last one was one of the battles of World War II. Yeah, and just to wrap this up, what I want to do is give President Trump praise for putting this in his inauguration speech to say, we're not going to fight wars that aren't ours, and we're going to focus back on our own borders.
00:31:32.000 Well, so how do you feel?
00:31:33.000 I mean, it's a lot of executive orders, though.
00:31:36.000 Oh, yeah.
00:31:36.000 Is there concern about...
00:31:38.000 About 200?
00:31:40.000 About 200, right.
00:31:41.000 But most of them are undoing things that Biden did where Biden overstepped his authority.
00:31:46.000 You know, what he did was he claimed that the cartels in Mexico are terrorists, foreign terrorist organizations, which gives him kind of the legal authority to, what, declare drone bombs now in Mexico?
00:31:57.000 And he wants to build up the troop presence on the southern border.
00:32:00.000 I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but I'm saying he did that.
00:32:03.000 And what do you guys think about that?
00:32:04.000 We had this discussion just before the show about...
00:32:09.000 The new way of gaining power through war, a new way of new weapons, basically.
00:32:18.000 Because my PhD is on genocide, but especially on cultural genocide.
00:32:23.000 So drugs, alcohol is used as a weapon against the nations.
00:32:29.000 Like I know from Venezuela, in the past they said, okay, we're not going to use war, we're not going to use...
00:32:37.000 Tanks against the US. We're going to use drugs.
00:32:40.000 So what is happening is not only business.
00:32:43.000 It's a political decision.
00:32:45.000 Fentanyl is one of those recent decisions, political decisions, to pump it into America and kill society, weaken the society.
00:32:54.000 And I don't believe it's only...
00:32:56.000 I know it's not only business.
00:32:58.000 This is the way to kill.
00:33:00.000 That's why I think it's a part of cultural genocide against American society.
00:33:05.000 This is what they're trying to do in Europe.
00:33:08.000 But Poland, for example, is the last stronghold of normality and awareness that this is not only business.
00:33:16.000 So we fight very hard and we protect our borders the way nobody does because our parliament passed the law that we can use live bullets.
00:33:25.000 If you want to come to Poland illegally, trying to harm any of our services, you will die.
00:33:38.000 Real quick, the United States has been largely funding all these other countries, wars in other countries, and correct me if I'm wrong, has this been fact-checked yet that Trump paused foreign aid for 90 days?
00:33:53.000 For everyone but Israel.
00:33:54.000 Really?
00:33:55.000 Yes, that's what the community notes said.
00:33:57.000 Wow.
00:33:57.000 Well, either way to start, I guess.
00:34:00.000 But in terms of how much we've spent on Israel and Ukraine and Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.
00:34:06.000 Taiwan recently.
00:34:07.000 Taiwan recently.
00:34:08.000 The only actual move that would ever make sense to an American is securing our southern border, dealing with the cartels that are trafficking fentanyl, drugs, children.
00:34:17.000 When they come to us and say Ukraine and Russia, it's like, okay, I mean, this is...
00:34:21.000 What are we?
00:34:22.000 8,000 more?
00:34:23.000 12,000 miles away?
00:34:24.000 How far away is it from here?
00:34:25.000 What is the purpose of American resources going into these conflicts?
00:34:29.000 Israel, for instance.
00:34:30.000 And on the southern border, we have drugs, trafficking, murder, death.
00:34:34.000 They say that...
00:34:35.000 I forgot the name of the city.
00:34:37.000 Juarez.
00:34:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:40.000 One of the most dangerous cities in the world.
00:34:42.000 It's on our border, and there's death and explosions and guns.
00:34:45.000 I mean, we should stop that, right?
00:34:47.000 Why soldiers and border officers are given guns?
00:34:51.000 What is the reason?
00:34:53.000 What is the purpose of having a gun to use it?
00:34:58.000 What is the problem for American Congress to pass the law that immediately, when someone is trying to cross the wall, is dead?
00:35:08.000 What is the problem?
00:35:09.000 If we pass this law, do it!
00:35:11.000 Let's contrast the...
00:35:13.000 With the experience of the gangs...
00:35:18.000 Because it's not about killing people, innocent people, for no reason, like ducks.
00:35:24.000 It's not about that.
00:35:25.000 We are human beings.
00:35:26.000 We know that there are different situations.
00:35:29.000 But the wave of illegals are used by the terrorists in Europe.
00:35:32.000 They blow themselves in Paris, in Sweden, in Germany, not in Poland.
00:35:38.000 Zero illegal migration equals zero terrorist attack.
00:35:42.000 I want to ask the congressman your perspective as an American on how we would handle the southern border security issue.
00:35:47.000 Well, I mean, even if you didn't need guns or did need guns, Biden didn't care.
00:35:52.000 Yeah, true.
00:35:53.000 It's not about you.
00:35:55.000 It's about Democrats.
00:35:56.000 Well, they did.
00:35:56.000 They did nothing.
00:35:57.000 It's not that we can't stop them.
00:35:59.000 I mean, he can build a wall and stop them.
00:36:01.000 The Democrats opened the doors in the wall.
00:36:03.000 Yeah, and invited them.
00:36:04.000 Yeah, and invite them when they came in.
00:36:06.000 Invite them.
00:36:07.000 One other thing about being in the rotunda when Trump was delivering that speech, from where I was sitting, I could see George Bush, and I could see Bill Clinton, and I could see Joe Biden.
00:36:17.000 Just a cabal of neocons who have started wars and got us involved in so many things overseas.
00:36:23.000 And it looked like they were eating lemons and Trump was having a ball with it.
00:36:28.000 Eating lemons.
00:36:28.000 Just feeding them lemons.
00:36:30.000 That was wonderful.
00:36:30.000 I wanted to answer Ian's question that he asked earlier.
00:36:34.000 So Donald Trump did use his emergency powers to...
00:36:38.000 Donald Trump...
00:36:40.000 Is that good?
00:36:40.000 Good.
00:36:41.000 All right.
00:36:41.000 Donald Trump did use his emergency powers to declare an invasion, and that tends to still need Congress to issue some sort of joint resolution or kind of back him up.
00:36:52.000 It needs congressional affirmation, I believe.
00:36:54.000 He can't just do that, but he did that, so that way he could enact the Alien Enemies Act that John Adams incited in 1798, and that would give him the power to order troops to restrain and And just apprehend illegal people that are threatening America.
00:37:16.000 And the last time this was used was World War II when they did it to the Japanese.
00:37:21.000 So he's not planning to put them all in camps like FDR did.
00:37:24.000 He's planning to send them back home.
00:37:26.000 Just a couple of clarifications.
00:37:29.000 Donald Trump issued a lethal force authorization.
00:37:34.000 Back in 2018, and it is the current policy of CBP that they do have the authorization for lethal force when presented with a threat or something of that nature.
00:37:44.000 So that wasn't overturned by Biden?
00:37:46.000 I know he went in and overturned everything.
00:37:49.000 So the issue was, when we had this big border crisis with Texas and the federal government, I believe it was reaffirmed, or it was explicitly affirmed that the National Guard had the authority to use lethal force.
00:38:02.000 Because there are cartel members with rifles with ill-intent trafficking children.
00:38:07.000 But you had four years of services being scared to use it.
00:38:13.000 That is the problem.
00:38:15.000 Because if this law is in power, why they are still coming?
00:38:19.000 Why they are not afraid?
00:38:20.000 When we passed the law recently, the numbers of illegals dropped drastically.
00:38:27.000 Well, the issue is largely that although Trump issued...
00:38:30.000 I mean, I'll clarify this.
00:38:32.000 So I think Democrats, they built the atmosphere for the illegals with these apps, websites, inviting them, and services did not know what to do.
00:38:42.000 Okay, we do have it, right?
00:38:43.000 But then on the political side, we have president and administration, which is inviting.
00:38:49.000 That's how I understand the situation.
00:38:50.000 I'll break this down because it's worse than we are discussing.
00:38:55.000 The first thing I'll say is, The authorization as we see it is, it's supposed to be obvious.
00:38:59.000 If our law enforcement, if our National Guard, if our soldiers, our federal agents are being threatened by obvious armed cartel members or otherwise, they have a right to use force to defend themselves and this country.
00:39:10.000 What ends up happening under the Biden administration is this open-door policy that they deny until it becomes so problematic they have no choice.
00:39:17.000 Chicago is dealing with a mass migration problem.
00:39:21.000 It's worse.
00:39:22.000 We've discussed it on this show.
00:39:23.000 Dr. Phil appearing on The View, explaining.
00:39:26.000 It was so far gone as to how Biden, his administration, was allowing this that there were CBP agents publicly stating that there were children being trafficked into prostitution under their watch and facilitated by CBP. Customs and Border Protection were bringing in children with numbers on their arms that they knew they were being sent into child prostitution and they assisted in it.
00:39:54.000 As per the orders they were given by the federal government.
00:39:57.000 What's changing now?
00:39:58.000 It's really simple.
00:39:59.000 We don't need to worry about lethal force.
00:40:01.000 We don't need to worry...
00:40:02.000 Donald Trump is shutting the border down for illegal immigration, and he's going to build a wall.
00:40:08.000 He's issuing executive orders.
00:40:10.000 So back to what you were saying, Ian.
00:40:12.000 When I look at issues of Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, etc., you're going to have to...
00:40:16.000 Give me a really, really clever and likely circuitous argument about the interests of the American people and what these things do for us.
00:40:25.000 The southern border makes sense when we know from Dr. Phil himself, children are being trafficked.
00:40:29.000 Did you want to add to that?
00:40:31.000 I'll wait for Anne.
00:40:32.000 I kind of joked at the Iowa caucus about setting up machine gun nests all along the southern border.
00:40:38.000 I'm kind of hardcore about this.
00:40:39.000 Yeah, everybody got freaked out by that.
00:40:40.000 And it was like, well, I put the seed in the ground and I'm not...
00:40:43.000 What concerns me is these cartels sit back in their headquarters and they get citizens that don't know what's going on to run drugs in their underwear across the border.
00:40:54.000 And then what, do they open fire on...
00:40:56.000 No, no, no.
00:40:56.000 So how do you discern a threat when it's hidden?
00:41:00.000 When they're attacking us, when they're putting bombs in Juarez and things like that, we know when they are murdering people...
00:41:07.000 It is reasonable to say we have to defend people from being murdered.
00:41:10.000 That's self-defense.
00:41:11.000 Okay, if I may.
00:41:12.000 500,000 children went missing.
00:41:15.000 That's right.
00:41:16.000 The HHS is in charge of placing the unaccompanied minors.
00:41:22.000 So it might go to show that the U.S. government is the leading child trafficking organization in the United States.
00:41:31.000 I do want to jump to the next story, though, because...
00:41:33.000 One sentence.
00:41:34.000 What do you do when someone is trying to break into your home?
00:41:38.000 Depends on the state in this country.
00:41:40.000 No, no, no.
00:41:41.000 I'm talking about logical thinking.
00:41:43.000 Do you ask a question, or do you shoot and then ask questions?
00:41:47.000 I shoot, and then I ask questions.
00:41:49.000 What do you do if there is three people in the house?
00:41:51.000 What do you do when it's five people in your house?
00:41:54.000 What would you do?
00:41:55.000 If there is 330 million, America is your home.
00:41:59.000 You have to protect it.
00:42:00.000 Shoot and then ask questions.
00:42:02.000 Well, the issue here in the United States is that each different state has different laws.
00:42:05.000 So for Poland...
00:42:06.000 No, I'm talking about the law in the European Union.
00:42:09.000 I'm not talking about someone being killed for nothing.
00:42:12.000 I'm talking about the act of terrorism.
00:42:14.000 I'm talking about those who are trying to commit crime.
00:42:18.000 I'm not talking about shooting to anyone just to be, you know, I'm talking about the terrorists, gangs, those who are trying to sell drugs, and they're killing people.
00:42:28.000 You have to protect yourself in general.
00:42:30.000 So, obviously, Trump is doing everything he can that he can do by executive action and executive orders and policy changes, and a lot of that is rolling back to what he had when he was president the first time, which worked.
00:42:44.000 But there's another prong here.
00:42:45.000 As a member of U.S. Congress, I have to tell you, we are also going to pass laws.
00:42:50.000 And there's a bill called Reconciliation that allows you to do this with 51 votes in the Senate instead of the typical 60 votes.
00:42:57.000 And so this will be one of the first bills that comes through Congress.
00:43:01.000 There's going to be a tendency to add a lot of other stuff to it and not do things that need to be done in it.
00:43:07.000 But I want to assure Ian, I have the same concerns.
00:43:10.000 We don't have a king here.
00:43:13.000 And, you know, he doesn't get to make law, but he gets to enforce law, and there are some policies.
00:43:20.000 But we are going to have bills to do basically a belt in suspenders here.
00:43:25.000 You know, so one of Trump's executive orders is to end birthright citizenship, for instance.
00:43:31.000 We can do that in law as well.
00:43:34.000 Now, there'll still be arguments, constitutional arguments made to the Supreme Court, and a lot of this will get tied up, but it's a more solid footing.
00:43:43.000 When it's a law that's passed by Congress as opposed to an executive action or executive order.
00:43:47.000 So that's going to come in the first six months of this Congress.
00:43:52.000 Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial.
00:43:54.000 You're fired.
00:43:56.000 Trump admin removes over a thousand Biden-appointed staffers not aligned with MAGA. My presidential personnel office is actively in the process of identifying and removing over a thousand presidential appointees from the previous administration.
00:44:09.000 Trump had posted this on a Truth Social saying, Our first day in the White House is not over yet.
00:44:14.000 My presidential personnel office is actively in the process of identifying and removing over a thousand presidential appointees from the previous administration who are not aligned with our vision to make America great again.
00:44:23.000 Let this serve as official notice of dismissal for these four individuals with many more coming soon.
00:44:30.000 He then goes on to mention Jose Andres from the President's Council on Sports, Mark Milley.
00:44:36.000 From the National Infrastructure Advisory Council, Brian Hook from the Wilson Center for Scholars, and Keisha Lance Bottoms from the President's Export Council.
00:44:44.000 We also have this story from the Daily Mail.
00:44:47.000 Donald Trump fires first female Coast Guard leader over her obsession with DEI. So going back to what Trump is famous for, he is firing lots of people.
00:44:58.000 Good thing.
00:44:59.000 May I defend the absolute necessity of this with an example from my own country?
00:45:05.000 So those who peripherally follow British politics over in the UK might know a woman by the name of Liz Truss.
00:45:12.000 She was the shortest-serving prime minister in history and has since become a decent friend of mine because the typical, the layman's view, is that she crashed the economy with a new budget.
00:45:23.000 What ended up happening was the banks, reacting to what the Federal Reserve were doing to curb Biden's inflation, Set interest rates high about a week before.
00:45:31.000 And then they decided to treat pension products the same way as they did running up to the 2008 crash.
00:45:38.000 It led to a run on the market.
00:45:40.000 She was scapegoated for it.
00:45:41.000 She was kicked out.
00:45:43.000 Nobody at the banks lost their jobs for losing millions in public funds because what the Tony Blair government did in 1997 up to 2010 was ensure that every single civil service Every appointee is appointed by another civil servant and every institution is neutral and independent from Parliament.
00:46:02.000 So the heads of the banks, the heads of the civil service, no matter what they get wrong, they cannot be fired or replaced by someone in Parliament and they have the power to, as we've seen, create enough pressure, enough turmoil to unseat an elected Prime Minister.
00:46:16.000 And the reason I raise that is because the Chairman of the Fed, Jerome Powell...
00:46:20.000 As soon as the prospect of tariffs were brought up, he was saying, well, we might be able to do something with interest rates about that.
00:46:25.000 This is something J.D. Vance warned about.
00:46:27.000 This is something that Trump himself said that he was on the watch for.
00:46:29.000 So the need to have everyone in these institutions that are ostensibly neutral but riddled with political ideology on side to enact the democratic will of the people is necessary, and so Trump needs to get rid of these people.
00:46:40.000 You know, talk about oligarchy.
00:46:41.000 It's been coming up a lot lately.
00:46:43.000 Someone said Trump was involved with an oligarchy.
00:46:45.000 I mean, Federal Reserve, that's the oligarchy right there.
00:46:50.000 Organizations, dudes come in and they can choose where the global interest is.
00:46:54.000 It's absolutely ridiculous.
00:46:56.000 He has to be able to fire anybody, really.
00:47:00.000 Otherwise, elections don't matter.
00:47:02.000 Democrats like to call it a democracy, but I call it a republic.
00:47:06.000 Neither of those is the case if you have people who can't be fired after an election by their boss.
00:47:12.000 So this is just a principle that has to exist.
00:47:15.000 Now, the one thing he's done in an executive order is just a hiring freeze.
00:47:20.000 Okay, you're going to have people who quit or maybe they've served so long in government, they die, whatever.
00:47:26.000 At least take advantage of the fact everybody can't stay around forever and quit hiring people.
00:47:32.000 If they supported the past administration politically for what they have done to this country and then to the world in many ways, they should quit.
00:47:42.000 And they should be fired.
00:47:44.000 That's it.
00:47:44.000 The word democracy is mentioned zero times in the U.S. Constitution.
00:47:49.000 The words a Republican form of government is mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, so referring to America as a democracy is anti-American.
00:48:01.000 In some ways.
00:48:02.000 The Democrats have cognitive dissonance when they try to argue that our country should be run by bureaucrats who can't be fired.
00:48:09.000 And then say, they're trying to preserve the democracy.
00:48:11.000 No, no, that makes perfect sense.
00:48:12.000 It actually makes perfect sense.
00:48:13.000 I'll explain it.
00:48:14.000 They believe everyone's a blank slate.
00:48:15.000 So they think that actually everyone has identical interests deep down, and instead, someone like Donald Trump is coming along with his populist, racist rhetoric and casting kind of spell over them.
00:48:23.000 Now, because they're enlightened to this, and all of their experts understand this, they can act in your self-interest to realize your latent potential as a egalitarian blank slate person, and enact progressive policies that are actually what you want deep down if you weren't just...
00:48:38.000 Tricked by misinformation.
00:48:39.000 That is what these people believe.
00:48:41.000 It is.
00:48:43.000 And they use the democracy line, as we've pointed out for some time, when they say our democracy, they're referring to their bureaucratic establishment government, not the will of the people, or the republic, or a nation of independent states.
00:48:58.000 It is just whatever, at the time, the hive mind seems to agree with.
00:49:03.000 That's where they march in lockstep.
00:49:05.000 They call it the Democratic Party.
00:49:07.000 This is the thing, you can call your party anything you want.
00:49:10.000 Like, the We Kick Dogs Party and not ever kick a dog.
00:49:13.000 But your party can still be called Democratic.
00:49:15.000 When it's oligarchic in nature.
00:49:17.000 Well, they pass bills.
00:49:18.000 Rep Massey, how many times have you encountered a bill that's titled something like, the free pancakes for breakfast bill, and then you read it and it says...
00:49:24.000 I love puppies, Bill.
00:49:25.000 It makes dogs illegal.
00:49:27.000 The Freedom Act, the Patriot Act.
00:49:28.000 Exactly.
00:49:29.000 Inflation Reduction Act is the most recent famous one.
00:49:32.000 Yeah.
00:49:32.000 This is why Lancelot victory was so important, to prove that there's no discussion.
00:49:37.000 Because what we heard from Kamala, our democracy is in danger on the threat.
00:49:44.000 Trump is coming.
00:49:45.000 He would be someone who wants to steal the will of the nation.
00:49:49.000 And then this nation under threat, this nation which was scared, gave the voice and voted.
00:49:58.000 And this victory was, I don't know, who won with such big numbers?
00:50:04.000 I mean, I was in shock.
00:50:05.000 I knew he was going to win.
00:50:07.000 I knew I was hoping that he was going to win.
00:50:08.000 But the outcome was great.
00:50:10.000 Was this the most votes ever received?
00:50:13.000 Probably, yes.
00:50:14.000 It was?
00:50:14.000 So, number-wise.
00:50:16.000 So, there is no discussion about democracy, which is under fire.
00:50:23.000 And I know this very well, because democracy, rule of law, and all these sentences, beautiful words, are in the European Union when the leftists are targeting Republicans, conservatives.
00:50:37.000 You are the threat against democracy.
00:50:40.000 Do you remember the...
00:50:43.000 Referendum.
00:50:43.000 That was Scotland, I believe.
00:50:45.000 The outcome was not very good, so let's repeat it.
00:50:49.000 Yes.
00:50:49.000 Well, same with Brexit.
00:50:50.000 Let's repeat it because they don't like it.
00:50:53.000 Real quick correction.
00:50:55.000 Trump has 77.3 million to Joe Biden's 81 million.
00:50:59.000 And only Joe Biden won more black voters than Obama in Detroit, which is completely...
00:51:03.000 Well, I mean, he was the most popular president of all time.
00:51:06.000 Yes.
00:51:06.000 And I want to clarify this, too.
00:51:08.000 For everybody who's scoffing and laughing, You can say whatever you want.
00:51:12.000 And I know everyone's saying he didn't actually get those votes.
00:51:15.000 I'm going to say it like this.
00:51:17.000 Perhaps.
00:51:18.000 Or, a man who won with the most votes in U.S. history ever screwed up so miserably he was removed by his own party.
00:51:27.000 Donald Trump debated this man and won the election in that moment and sent them into disarray.
00:51:33.000 So, if they want to claim their 81 million...
00:51:35.000 Talk about standing tall and falling hard.
00:51:38.000 Well, Seoul Cemetery's just stayed at home this time, I assume.
00:51:41.000 I wanted to mention the Brexit thing, because this is...
00:51:45.000 The idea that democracy mattered to the people that wanted to relitigate Brexit is absurd, because as soon as Brexit then happened, the British people were punished for voting for that.
00:51:53.000 Brexit did precede Trump, but Brexit hasn't been properly carried out, because the main reason that people voted for Brexit was the main reason they voted for Trump this time, and that was to lower inward migration.
00:52:03.000 For people that don't know, America has net migration of about a million a year, right?
00:52:08.000 You're a massive country.
00:52:09.000 It's still quite high.
00:52:10.000 We're a country the size of New York State.
00:52:12.000 And since Brexit, net migration has gone from about 300,000 a year to over a million every single year in the UK. And the composition has mainly not been chaps like Dominic, where it's majority 80% European, particularly Poles.
00:52:26.000 It's now 250,000 Indians, 100,000 Nigerians, 100,000 Pakistanis, which is great for the grooming gangs, as you can imagine.
00:52:33.000 And literally no party, other than reform at the last election, but their immigration policy is a bit shaky, wants to stop it and address it.
00:52:40.000 So democracy has not been delivered.
00:52:42.000 So that's very interesting because I used to live in London.
00:52:46.000 I paid my taxes.
00:52:47.000 I was a migrant.
00:52:48.000 A legal migrant who contributed to your country for the opportunity which was given to me, a migrant as a student, to learn a little bit of English.
00:53:00.000 And then I paid my taxes.
00:53:03.000 I graduated with my university and I came back to my homeland.
00:53:08.000 And I'm grateful to your country for this opportunity to learn a little bit of English, to be on Temple Podcast years after that.
00:53:16.000 I paid my taxes.
00:53:18.000 I have beautiful memories.
00:53:20.000 And now I'm serving to my country.
00:53:22.000 That is the right way to understand migration.
00:53:24.000 If you want to come, come legally for six or ten months, pay your taxes and go back to your homeland.
00:53:32.000 We are not North Korea.
00:53:33.000 It's not like you cannot come to Poland or you cannot leave the country.
00:53:38.000 What we want, what you should want, what actually you do want, is regular migration.
00:53:44.000 You can apply, you can submit your documents, you can ask for permission for a visa, you can stay for some time and then go back to your homeland if you are a real patriot.
00:53:53.000 We do not want people who doesn't love their own country because...
00:53:58.000 Definitely, they will not love your country.
00:54:01.000 Do you know how many of that 1 million every year are taxpayers?
00:54:04.000 Do you want to take a guess at the percentage?
00:54:06.000 I would say 10%.
00:54:07.000 5%.
00:54:08.000 So all the debate about the H-1B visas and that in the US is absolutely fascinating.
00:54:13.000 The UK is an absolute warning sign for you guys.
00:54:15.000 Because in large enough quantities, you get net detriments, crime goes up, and...
00:54:19.000 It means that your home is no longer a home.
00:54:21.000 It's just a revolving door.
00:54:22.000 Change of government.
00:54:23.000 That's it.
00:54:24.000 Let's jump to this story.
00:54:25.000 We have this from Timcast News on X. Donald Trump came out in support of H-1B. I want to play for you this statement.
00:54:32.000 It's not gotten a lot of attention.
00:54:34.000 I'm surprised.
00:54:35.000 I'm not seeing articles written about it.
00:54:36.000 We did post it on Timcast News.
00:54:38.000 Donald Trump says H-1B should bring in waiters and wine connoisseurs.
00:54:43.000 So this is huge because there's a big debate at the end of December.
00:54:46.000 I'll play the clip for you.
00:54:47.000 There's been some debate within your orbit over whether or not to keep or eliminate H-1B visas.
00:54:52.000 What's your position on that?
00:54:53.000 Do you want to keep H-1Bs or do you want to get them?
00:54:55.000 I like both sides of the argument, but I also like very competent people coming into our country, even if that involves them training and helping other people that may not have the qualifications they do.
00:55:07.000 But I don't want to stop.
00:55:09.000 And I'm not just talking about engineers.
00:55:11.000 I'm talking about people at all levels.
00:55:13.000 We want competent people coming into our country.
00:55:16.000 And HB1, I know the program very well.
00:55:18.000 I use the program.
00:55:20.000 Maitre d's, wine experts, even waiters, high-quality waiters.
00:55:30.000 You've got to get the best people.
00:55:31.000 Now, then you go into people like Larry, and he needs engineers, and Masa needs, and this gentleman needs engineers like nobody's ever needed engineers, right?
00:55:41.000 So we have to have the quality people coming in.
00:55:44.000 By doing that, we're expanding businesses, and that takes care of everybody.
00:55:49.000 So I'm sort of on both sides of the argument, but what I really do feel is that we have to let really competent people, great people, come into our country, and we do that through the H1 program.
00:56:00.000 This statement from Trump largely goes against what his base has been saying since the debate in December.
00:56:08.000 With Trump saying maitre d's, wine experts, and even waiters, he's saying, Quite literally, entry-level, low-skilled positions.
00:56:16.000 Now, I get it if you're a properly trained maitre d'or.
00:56:19.000 He's saying classically trained professional waiters at high-end restaurants, perhaps.
00:56:25.000 But these are still jobs that Americans can train for and do.
00:56:28.000 I'm curious what you guys think.
00:56:30.000 I know that Elon Musk got in, I believe.
00:56:33.000 You can fact check me.
00:56:34.000 He got in on an H-1B, I believe, and that's why he's so passionate about it.
00:56:37.000 He was denied the O-1, which is for the exceptionally gifted people, the visa for the exceptionally gifted people.
00:56:43.000 So I think that's why he fights so hard for the H-1B is because it gave him this amazing opportunity for America.
00:56:48.000 H-1B, it should be reformed to the point where it's...
00:56:54.000 More of an 01, where it's more of people who would add to society who are merit-based as opposed to coming in to be a waiter.
00:57:02.000 For those that don't know, 01 is exceptional talent.
00:57:04.000 So your celebrities, your rock stars, whatever, pros, PhDs, that's the brain drain.
00:57:10.000 H-1B is, we can't find anybody.
00:57:12.000 Can we get someone to run our bar who comes from, you know, insert whatever country?
00:57:16.000 A lot of the tech companies abuse this.
00:57:18.000 I'm curious, Rhett Massey, your thoughts as, you know, you're in Congress.
00:57:22.000 I have a foreign accent on my voicemail and my maps that narrates for me in my Siri.
00:57:28.000 When people call up, they say, why do you have that?
00:57:30.000 I said, it's an H-1B voicemail.
00:57:32.000 They're just some jobs Americans won't do.
00:57:34.000 They won't record my voicemail for me.
00:57:36.000 But any message.
00:57:37.000 Anyways, I think it's just, it's like a lot of things.
00:57:41.000 It's well intended and it gets abused.
00:57:45.000 When I was in business, I had a software company.
00:57:47.000 This was 25 years ago.
00:57:49.000 We had one person who was there on a visa.
00:57:52.000 At my company.
00:57:53.000 I didn't really, you know, HR hired him or whatever.
00:57:56.000 I remember, like, probably signing something to help him get his visa renewed.
00:58:01.000 But he wasn't taking anybody's job.
00:58:04.000 He had a certain competency in computer-aided design that was hard to come by.
00:58:09.000 As an engineer, I don't feel, this is my background, engineering, I don't feel threatened.
00:58:15.000 You're going to have centers of excellence in Canada, for instance, where people come in and build things.
00:58:21.000 Great things there.
00:58:23.000 But I'm sure, I'm absolutely certain it's abused at this point.
00:58:28.000 So the answer, and by the way, just one other thing.
00:58:30.000 I think what the mandate in this election was to stop illegal immigration.
00:58:37.000 I don't think there was a mandate on H-1B. What I was about to say, okay, and I'm deadly serious now, okay?
00:58:45.000 Deadly serious.
00:58:46.000 Would you hire me?
00:58:48.000 Tim, would you hire me?
00:58:49.000 Or anyone else who's watching us, would you hire me?
00:58:52.000 It depends on the job.
00:58:53.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:58:55.000 If there would be a job, you think, after this, an hour or so, that I could do, would you hire me?
00:59:01.000 If you would think that, wow, this guy is good in talking, in presenting, I don't know, selling, relations, whatever, whatever it is, would you?
00:59:09.000 You would be...
00:59:10.000 Because I'm Polish.
00:59:11.000 Yeah.
00:59:12.000 You would be an 01. Yeah.
00:59:14.000 I'm Polish.
00:59:15.000 I'm a foreigner, right?
00:59:17.000 I can bet there are many people who would be ready right now to hire me.
00:59:21.000 I'm happy to cooperate with everyone.
00:59:24.000 When I was in London, I had this conversation with an English lady and she went, if your plumbers and builders would leave England now, our economy would collapse.
00:59:37.000 This is what she said.
00:59:39.000 So the whole thing is, it's about getting migration Programmed in a way that you don't have illegal migration.
00:59:53.000 I'm not defending the whole idea, but there is a huge difference between Dominic being in London for five years, paying his taxes, and then coming back to his homeland, working and serving to his people.
01:00:06.000 And I do understand that he meant people who will come for six or ten months, just like I did.
01:00:12.000 I used to work on the cruise ships.
01:00:15.000 As a student, I've done my contract and I went back home.
01:00:20.000 So I think this is what we are talking about, not about taking jobs.
01:00:26.000 And I think that we are talking about the situation when your unemployment is close to zero, right?
01:00:32.000 We're not talking about a situation when you have like 7%, 8% or 9% of unemployment in the US and getting people...
01:00:39.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
01:00:41.000 When your unemployment is close to zero, just like in Poland, it's 2% thanks to our government, the lowest in the European Union.
01:00:49.000 Then you can think about quality migration for some time, 6 or 10 months.
01:00:55.000 I heard you say a statistic that 95% of the people who were immigrating into, what was that, Great Britain?
01:01:02.000 Yes.
01:01:03.000 Didn't pay taxes.
01:01:05.000 I would assume every one of these H-1B visa holders is paying taxes.
01:01:10.000 So the argument, that's a good argument you made, but I don't think it applies to H-1B. But a waiter?
01:01:17.000 I mean, there are young people out here who can train to do that job that need jobs that feel that they're being left behind.
01:01:24.000 Well, I've been in restaurants where the waiter is making probably close to six figures and supporting a family, and he's been in that restaurant for 20 years.
01:01:33.000 I'm usually not the one paying for the meal.
01:01:35.000 I don't choose these places, but go to Joe's Seafood.
01:01:40.000 Here in Washington, D.C. There's several guys who have supported a family and put them through college.
01:01:46.000 That's a different category.
01:01:48.000 I think that's what Trump...
01:01:50.000 Trump has been to restaurants like that, and we haven't.
01:01:53.000 I understand.
01:01:54.000 I've been to these steakhouses, and you have waiters who are professionals.
01:01:59.000 They can tell you about every wine from every region and the difference, but a 20-year-old American man or woman can train for that.
01:02:07.000 Of course.
01:02:07.000 And I think the challenge right now for Gen Z especially is they feel like they're struggling.
01:02:13.000 It's hard to own property.
01:02:14.000 They're seeing illegal immigrants.
01:02:16.000 I know no one here is in favor of that, but they're seeing benefits given to illegal immigrants.
01:02:20.000 And then on top of this, an argument being made, even by Trump, that if you want to be a waiter, something that you can go and get trained for over a period of a few months.
01:02:28.000 We would rather bring someone in from a different country than give you those skills.
01:02:32.000 But, Connor, you wanted to jump in.
01:02:33.000 I was going to say a couple of things.
01:02:35.000 First of all, I mean, Dominic, you're an absolute gentleman, as is my good friend Ayan Hirsi Ali from Somalia, but we don't set our broad immigration policies for exceptions like yourself or Ayan Hirsi Ali.
01:02:44.000 There's a great example of the Polish plumbers and builders' stuff.
01:02:46.000 They were great compared to the cohort we've got now.
01:02:49.000 But we still had to house them.
01:02:51.000 So all the houses they were building, they also required the infrastructure.
01:02:54.000 I do agree.
01:02:55.000 Yeah, so that's a comment about the volume.
01:02:57.000 But there's a comment about cultural proximity.
01:03:00.000 I'm about to...
01:03:01.000 Oh, sorry.
01:03:02.000 Yeah, I was going to say, an economy is just the aggregated activity of a people and a place and a time.
01:03:08.000 So their culture feeds into...
01:03:09.000 What that activity is most likely to be like.
01:03:11.000 And so if you mass import people from countries which are not very economically active, you can judge by proxy that their culture is not very good.
01:03:18.000 It's probably not very proximate to the United States.
01:03:20.000 And so even if they're coming in and paying large volumes of taxes, it still feels like a transitory population.
01:03:25.000 You don't know your neighbors.
01:03:27.000 And so it doesn't matter how skilled these waiters are.
01:03:30.000 If you put in 100,000 Indian waiters, that's 100,000 people you don't know.
01:03:33.000 As Ian begins to get up, do y'all know the origin of the word economy?
01:03:38.000 Go for it.
01:03:39.000 Oikonomia.
01:03:40.000 Oh, Oikos, yes.
01:03:41.000 Household management.
01:03:42.000 You know, I was thinking, before I go, last thought, is that, like, I don't know, man, I got mixed feelings on this immigration, because in one way, if someone's born in the U.S., this is kind of like the idea of stripping away birthright citizenship, Phil Abonte's about to jump in.
01:03:54.000 If someone's just a scummy, not useless, a horrible thing to say, but just, like, they eat really horrible, they're lazy, why would we prioritize that guy just because of where he was born over the really talented, brilliant, Polish dude?
01:04:08.000 It doesn't make any sense to me.
01:04:09.000 I feel like, sorry buddy, if you didn't try, you don't get it because you were from here.
01:04:15.000 So I got, I mean, that's kind of my mixed feelings on this.
01:04:17.000 But does that make him, does his laziness make him less of an American if he can trace his founding back to the Mayflower?
01:04:23.000 Technically, no.
01:04:24.000 Technically, if you're born in the country, this might change.
01:04:27.000 Technically, if you're born in the country, you get all the, yeah, I think, Merit, Merit, bye everyone, have a great night.
01:04:33.000 But the whole discussion, as I said, I think the whole discussion, Should start when your unemployment is close to zero.
01:04:42.000 If there is an unemployment in your country, this discussion should not even appear.
01:04:49.000 You have to take care of your own people.
01:04:51.000 If they need training, provide your training.
01:04:54.000 If there is no money on the training, make money as a government responsible for the money on the training.
01:05:00.000 Train your people, get them jobs, and then think about growing.
01:05:06.000 Country, bigger society, more taxes, more opportunities.
01:05:10.000 Look at China.
01:05:12.000 Look at China.
01:05:13.000 The way they're dealing.
01:05:15.000 Look.
01:05:16.000 Why?
01:05:16.000 Because of the volume.
01:05:18.000 We all know that.
01:05:21.000 But as I said, if there is no unemployment, then you can discuss it.
01:05:27.000 If there is even a small, slight, anyone without a job, this discussion should not take place.
01:05:34.000 That's it.
01:05:35.000 Can I ask a question?
01:05:36.000 What's the magnitude in the United States of this?
01:05:39.000 How many H-1Bs do we give every year?
01:05:41.000 I genuinely don't know the answer.
01:05:44.000 85,000?
01:05:46.000 85,000.
01:05:47.000 I appreciate Conor's argument that you can't dilute your culture if you can't bring on too many people too quickly or you lose what you are, your national identity.
01:05:56.000 And I'm not saying they have to be the same color or anything like that.
01:06:00.000 I'm just like, do they appreciate the Constitution and the principles that we stand for?
01:06:04.000 But if it's 85,000, that might not be too many.
01:06:09.000 Phil's joining us, and then I'm going to jump to a story.
01:06:11.000 I think that the ideology of the people that are coming is really the most important thing.
01:06:16.000 Like you said, if they believe in the things that make America the country we are, if they believe in a capitalist system, if they believe in property rights, if they believe in individual rights, that the government should be subordinate to the people, then I'm fine with it.
01:06:30.000 It doesn't matter where they come from.
01:06:32.000 But if they have like...
01:06:33.000 If they have an ideology that is directly opposed to those things, I think the U.S. should completely say, no, you're not welcome here because you don't align with our ideals.
01:06:43.000 You have to respect our faith, our culture, and our tax system.
01:06:48.000 That's very basic.
01:06:49.000 Let's jump to this story from the New York Times.
01:06:51.000 22 states sue to stop Trump's birthright citizenship order.
01:06:56.000 The lawsuit to block the president's executive order is the first salvo.
01:07:00.000 And what is likely to be a long-running legal fight over immigration policy.
01:07:03.000 So let's make...
01:07:04.000 I'll try to simplify this as much as I can.
01:07:06.000 Under the 14th Amendment, it says all those born in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction therein are citizens.
01:07:12.000 Donald Trump has issued an executive order basically stating that if you are born of people who are here unlawfully or here only temporarily, we will not recognize your citizenship.
01:07:23.000 22 states have sued him over this.
01:07:26.000 It likely will, I believe it'll go to the Supreme Court.
01:07:29.000 I don't know if you...
01:07:29.000 That's the goal.
01:07:30.000 Right, and then the question is, how does the Supreme Court rule?
01:07:33.000 I will give you my thoughts first, real quick.
01:07:37.000 My interpretation of the 14th Amendment, and Josie would probably know better, so I looked to you after this, was literally, following the Civil War, they were trying to rectify what had happened, and so they said, what of the slaves?
01:07:49.000 Well, obviously, anyone who's born here and subject to our jurisdiction is a citizen, right?
01:07:53.000 Ah, okay.
01:07:54.000 Which meant...
01:07:55.000 From here and back, those people are citizens.
01:07:58.000 I do not believe they intended for it to mean anyone at any point ever who comes here, and as a kid, that kid would be a citizen.
01:08:05.000 And that is the interpretation that I believe Trump is taking.
01:08:08.000 I'm curious your thoughts, Josie, as the scholar of the Constitution.
01:08:11.000 So the 14th Amendment, it was written by John Brigham, I believe, from Ohio, and his interpretation of subject to the jurisdiction thereof means the complete jurisdiction, not a partial jurisdiction.
01:08:24.000 And a partial jurisdiction would be people who are here temporarily, whether lawfully or unlawfully.
01:08:30.000 But was it descriptive or prescriptive?
01:08:33.000 Was he saying from this point forward, all people who are born in this country shall be citizens?
01:08:38.000 Or was he saying all of those that are here, referring to the slaves who were born here and are subject to our jurisdiction, are citizens?
01:08:44.000 Was it both?
01:08:45.000 I would imagine it was both if it's in the Constitution, right?
01:08:49.000 I think, again, I'll throw it to you, Massey.
01:08:53.000 My interpretation was they were saying, hey, look, the Civil War happened.
01:08:56.000 We don't want insurrectionists in the Senate or in Congress.
01:08:59.000 The president, you know, officers of the government.
01:09:02.000 We want to make sure that the people who are enslaved are citizens.
01:09:06.000 I don't know that I look at that in the history and see that as them saying, from this point forward, all people hereafter.
01:09:14.000 I'm curious.
01:09:15.000 Before I answer that question, I have a question for Connor and Dominic.
01:09:19.000 Do you grant, in Poland, do you get birthright citizenship and do you get it in Great Britain?
01:09:23.000 It's not the same as it is in America.
01:09:26.000 When you burn, yes, but it's much harder to get citizenship than it is in America, I would say.
01:09:33.000 You would think differently, but it's not easy.
01:09:36.000 What about Great Britain?
01:09:38.000 You used to, I think it was until 1984. Weirdly enough, the woman currently leading the Conservative Party was an anchor baby.
01:09:45.000 Her mother flew over from Nigeria, had her on the NHS, brought her back, and then she emigrated back at 16. Yeah, so she's as British as you and me.
01:09:53.000 It is basically...
01:09:56.000 Whether or not you get birthright citizenship doesn't really matter just because the Home Office is rubber stamping visas and citizenship like it's going out of fashion.
01:10:02.000 I just wondered, but now I'll answer your question.
01:10:05.000 It was obviously about slavery.
01:10:07.000 They weren't trying to create birthright citizenship when they did that amendment to the Constitution.
01:10:13.000 And I asked Brock, I was just in a judiciary meeting with Jim Jordan and all the people on the Judiciary Committee an hour before I came over here and we were talking about this question.
01:10:24.000 And so while we're sitting there, I pull up my phone and I ask Grock, when they passed this amendment, did they intend to grant birthright citizenship?
01:10:32.000 And Grock's like, no, this was all about slavery.
01:10:35.000 But it has come to, it's evolved into that, is what it's evolved to.
01:10:40.000 But that was not the intent.
01:10:42.000 And I think this is going to go to the Supreme Court.
01:10:45.000 It's going to be one of those five, four, or six, three decisions.
01:10:50.000 You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
01:10:52.000 Yeah, so I actually, I never even considered the thought that it couldn't be something that was forward motion, but I have actually in my head for a different part of the 14th Amendment.
01:11:03.000 I think it was the...
01:11:05.000 Section 3. Section 3, exactly, because that creates a constitutional crisis.
01:11:09.000 That's saying you can't be an insurrectionist.
01:11:12.000 Our country was built on insurrection.
01:11:14.000 Our country was built.
01:11:16.000 That's why we're here.
01:11:20.000 The president, Jefferson Davis, so the president of the Confederacy, he was not pardoned, but they just let everything go about him.
01:11:29.000 They're like, we're not going to push forward with any of this because this is going to be a constitutional crisis.
01:11:33.000 And same thing, so they forgave all the Confederates, you know, and I think that that's...
01:11:38.000 Well, there's a lot of complicated history.
01:11:41.000 No judge worth their weight wanted to take these cases because they go against the integrity of the United States.
01:11:48.000 I mean, even though all of the context in history does matter, like even all the arguments that are being made here, none of them take into account the fact that you can now travel so much faster than you could at obviously any other point in history.
01:12:04.000 And so, you know, a woman can easily get on a plane or Travel by car in two days to go from almost anywhere in South America, drive into the United States, and have a baby very easily.
01:12:19.000 So these kind of, you know, the fact that now modern travel is so much faster.
01:12:24.000 And they actually do.
01:12:25.000 Yeah, it makes anchor babies.
01:12:29.000 A considerable problem that actually has to be readdressed because of the fact that we live in a different time.
01:12:35.000 Careful, Phil.
01:12:36.000 That's the argument they use against AR-15s.
01:12:38.000 Maybe we need to help our liberal friends understand why this interpretation exists and why Trump is moving in this direction.
01:12:46.000 Maybe we need to create a sci-fi film where Hitler's parents visit America as tourists.
01:12:52.000 Give birth to baby Hitler, then travel back to Austria, Germany, or whatever.
01:12:57.000 I don't know.
01:12:58.000 And then, as the war is coming to its conclusion, he escapes to America, where he's an American citizen and runs for president and becomes president.
01:13:06.000 You'd say that's an absurdity.
01:13:07.000 Why would we allow such an evil adversary of this country to be present?
01:13:13.000 Well, he was born here.
01:13:14.000 That makes him a citizen.
01:13:14.000 So as long as he lives here for, I think, what is it, 10 years after the fact or something that affect, then he can be, right?
01:13:20.000 No, that makes no sense.
01:13:21.000 There's someone in the chat that has made a comment.
01:13:23.000 I didn't catch their name, but it caught my eye as it passed by.
01:13:26.000 It's not lawful for children to profit from parental crimes.
01:13:31.000 So if a parent comes into the United States and violates the law by coming into the United States, how it should be unlawful for them to profit by gaining citizenship by the crime committed by the parent.
01:13:43.000 Let me also add some other historical context that I may get in trouble for.
01:13:48.000 I'm not advocating for this.
01:13:50.000 Okay, disclaimer.
01:13:51.000 But you had to own property to vote at that time.
01:13:53.000 And that makes sense.
01:13:54.000 Yes, you did.
01:13:55.000 It was less of an argument about were you a citizen or not.
01:13:58.000 It was like, are you part of this fabric of this region?
01:14:03.000 Do you own property?
01:14:04.000 Do you have a stake in what's going on here?
01:14:07.000 So, how about this?
01:14:09.000 How did you contribute it?
01:14:11.000 How about, I'm going to ask you this, and I'm actually curious how it works in Poland.
01:14:16.000 I talked with Vivek Ramaswamy a couple of years ago, and we were trying to figure out how you bring responsibility to the vote.
01:14:24.000 That you must have some civic responsibility.
01:14:26.000 And one of the ideas that we floated, I don't think Vivek is for this idea now, but he floated the idea.
01:14:31.000 You must sign up for selective service to get your voter card.
01:14:36.000 Men and women.
01:14:38.000 It doesn't mean you'll be drafted, and we haven't used the draft in 50, 60 years.
01:14:42.000 It means that you are willing to be in order to vote.
01:14:47.000 I'm in favor of something like that.
01:14:50.000 I'm curious what you think.
01:14:51.000 One of my favorite science fiction authors, Robert Heinlein...
01:14:54.000 Proposed that.
01:14:55.000 Yeah.
01:14:56.000 That you had to have that kind of stake in it.
01:14:58.000 But he also had another.
01:14:59.000 Service guarantees citizenship.
01:15:00.000 Yeah.
01:15:00.000 He had another proposal, which was if you could solve a quadratic equation inside of the voting booth, you'd vote matter.
01:15:07.000 And then he said, we'll put a twist on this.
01:15:09.000 If you fail to solve the equation after entering the voting booth, you never leave the voting booth.
01:15:15.000 You disappear.
01:15:16.000 And just the floor opens up and you go.
01:15:18.000 Yeah.
01:15:18.000 And he said under this scenario, you would have informed, educated 12-year-old.
01:15:23.000 Girls who could vote, and then you would have adults, their parents, who couldn't.
01:15:27.000 Right, but solving a quadratic equation doesn't confer understanding of global affairs.
01:15:32.000 But I'm curious, in Poland, how does it work?
01:15:34.000 Well, we never had this kind of problems, because we are 40 million people now.
01:15:41.000 Most of us had to flee our country during the communism.
01:15:44.000 And you have to remember that when we gain back our...
01:15:47.000 Our independence in 1918, we had the communists after World War II for 70 years occupying our country.
01:15:55.000 So many people had to leave Poland, left to US, seeking for help, because communists basically killed a lot of Polish people.
01:16:06.000 So in 1989, we had partially free elections, and I would say that the real major democracy We'd start about, I would say, 2005, because like 2001, post-communist one, using obviously their money from Russia and using their influence.
01:16:26.000 So in 2005, that was the first government after communism in Poland, conservative government.
01:16:34.000 So, you know, we never experienced this time because Poland was occupied.
01:16:40.000 And that is the difference between you and us.
01:16:45.000 It's pretty crazy.
01:16:46.000 The area I grew up in Chicago, largely Polish migrants.
01:16:51.000 Because of the communists.
01:16:52.000 Most of them coming from the families where one or two members, like grandparents, fought against Germany or against Russia or against communism during the communists.
01:17:05.000 They had to flee.
01:17:07.000 They had to save their lives.
01:17:08.000 And that is a real...
01:17:10.000 Because there is a difference between migrant and asylum seeker.
01:17:15.000 They were coming here to find asylum to save their lives because of the political system.
01:17:23.000 In Ukraine, they had what's called, as I was describing to me, wafer cake.
01:17:29.000 Is that something that you guys had in Poland?
01:17:31.000 Yeah.
01:17:32.000 So what it was is, there's no food.
01:17:34.000 And so they would get these thin wafers, and they would condense milk and pour it between each wafer, because that was the best they could do for some kind of dessert.
01:17:43.000 And the cheapest, yeah.
01:17:43.000 And the cheapest.
01:17:44.000 And you have to remember that during the communism, I remember communism as a kid.
01:17:49.000 I remember cues to buy shoes, to buy sugar, to buy meat.
01:17:55.000 How long?
01:17:56.000 Well, I spent the whole night to buy shoes.
01:17:59.000 I didn't get them.
01:18:01.000 People do that here for the new iPhone.
01:18:03.000 So it's funny now.
01:18:05.000 It wasn't funny for me when I was a kid.
01:18:07.000 So this is the reason why I fight communists around the world in a way I can.
01:18:13.000 This is why I hate communists.
01:18:14.000 That's why I will never ever stop fighting communism because I know what communism is.
01:18:19.000 I experienced it.
01:18:20.000 My father, my grandpa father, who fought against communists, as I told you, for all of us, war ended in 1945. My grandpa said, no, no, no, no.
01:18:31.000 Communists, Russians took over Poland and they are occupying Poland.
01:18:36.000 This is war.
01:18:36.000 He fled to the forest and he fought against communists.
01:18:44.000 Wow!
01:18:49.000 I was studying law to become a prosecutor because I was dreaming to put all the communists to the jail.
01:18:57.000 I found out that many of the prosecutors are communists themselves.
01:19:01.000 So I said, okay, I'm going to try to be above them in some way, so I'm going to be a politician.
01:19:05.000 And that's my war.
01:19:06.000 That's my personal war because of my family's experience.
01:19:09.000 That's why I think Kamala was a communist.
01:19:11.000 All of them are communists, not Democrats, because what they did was pure communism.
01:19:17.000 That's why I think...
01:19:18.000 Real quick, I want to give a shout out to Sid Meier's Civilization 2. Did you ever play that one?
01:19:25.000 I recommend this for all of your kids to play, even as a game as old as Civilization 2, because that's how I learned about the Polish Solidarity Movement, was in the game you're building a civilization, and if you are bad to your people, you will get unrest in your cities, and the image they used to represent unrest was protesters from the Solidarity Movement.
01:19:45.000 Connor, you had something.
01:19:46.000 Yeah, sorry, Josie.
01:19:48.000 Just a quick comment on the antiquated laws, and then I want to throw a grenade on the table.
01:19:53.000 On the antiquated laws, in the UK is a perfect example of this.
01:19:56.000 We're a member of the European Court of Human Rights.
01:19:58.000 It's distinct from the European Union.
01:19:59.000 The European Convention on Human Rights was instituted in 1952 by Winston Churchill, and part of that is the ability to seek asylum in European countries.
01:20:08.000 They had Dutch Jews in mind that had been turned away when they fled Nazi Germany.
01:20:12.000 They didn't have a million North Africans and sub-Saharan African men who were doing machete attacks and attacking women in the street.
01:20:19.000 Unfortunately, that law now applies to that.
01:20:21.000 So much like Phil said, just the means of transportation is also a completely different people, ethic, ideology, etc.
01:20:28.000 However, I don't like the talk of civics tests, of the idea that you have to solve a quadratic equation in a booth.
01:20:35.000 The idea that a level of intelligence or the ability to rattle off all the articles of the Constitution should qualify you for a vote.
01:20:45.000 Because that idea premises, it doesn't answer the question of what is an American, right?
01:20:53.000 If you just render American as a love of the Constitution and the rule of law and the ability to pay your taxes, the entire world becomes Americans in waiting.
01:21:01.000 And so the question of legal or illegal status is shoved to the wayside.
01:21:06.000 Really.
01:21:06.000 It doesn't solve the question of belonging.
01:21:08.000 It doesn't treat the nation like a family whose constituents cannot just be replaced, chopped, and changed.
01:21:13.000 And so the idea that we should have a civics test applied, I don't know what Vivek has in mind, perhaps re-watching Family Matters and rooting for Urkel or something, judging by his tweets about American culture.
01:21:24.000 I don't like this sort of talk because it renders culture completely flat.
01:21:29.000 And so I'm very averse to this idea that we should thin it out to such an extent.
01:21:35.000 I think tests are dangerous too.
01:21:37.000 And Bastiat said the best way to deal with this is just not to have shit for sale at the election.
01:21:43.000 Like, if people are concerned about how large the voting franchise is, he says they wouldn't be fighting to get into the voting franchise if their future and their livelihoods didn't depend on it.
01:21:54.000 And it shouldn't ever be that their livelihoods depend on that.
01:21:58.000 The government should be much smaller than that, so that whether you're part of the voting franchise or not matters less.
01:22:04.000 There are wonderful people in rural Appalachia that are not that intelligent, but very virtuous, very hardworking, and they should not have to be clued up on all the minutiae of politics just to get by.
01:22:12.000 I believe in skin in the game when it comes to voting, and this was actually my first cancel attempt ever on X, was because I said the 19th Amendment was a mistake, and it got people talking.
01:22:24.000 Why was it a mistake?
01:22:27.000 Well, going back to what Congressman Massey said about how he used to be able to own property to vote, voting was left to the states, and that's why it's not written into our Constitution, you know, saying this is how voting's going to work, aside from, you know, the electoral count.
01:22:41.000 Quick pause.
01:22:42.000 Just for people who don't know, the 19th Amendment is women's right to vote.
01:22:45.000 Sorry, continue.
01:22:45.000 It sure is.
01:22:47.000 So essentially, the states were given the power to run their states and vote in their states as they saw fit for their states.
01:22:59.000 So even before the Civil War, there were territories, Wyoming and Colorado, that were having women and freed slaves vote in their elections already because they're like, well, this fits us.
01:23:10.000 So this is how we're going to do it in our state.
01:23:13.000 And, you know, for the same reason that we don't have a direct democracy where all those states go or all the states vote and we get this, this, this, this.
01:23:23.000 Oh, my God, I forgot the word.
01:23:27.000 One national popular vote.
01:23:30.000 It's the same reason we don't have that.
01:23:33.000 You know, what's good for California isn't good for Wyoming, for instance.
01:23:37.000 So doing it this way with the states, it might not be great for people who don't own property to vote in a certain state.
01:23:43.000 It might not be great for women or men to vote in a certain state.
01:23:47.000 And so it'd be up to their state legislatures to decide what that is, up to the voters to decide what that is.
01:23:51.000 What is the best way to vote in our state?
01:23:54.000 And I believe that.
01:23:55.000 That's the way it was written into our Constitution.
01:23:57.000 However, once we...
01:23:59.000 There is now some federal legislation when it comes to who gets to vote in the elections, and there's four amendments.
01:24:06.000 There's 15, 19, 24, and 26, and they all say it is the right of the citizens to vote this way, so that also answers who gets to vote in the elections.
01:24:15.000 It was always intended for citizens to be voters in the elections.
01:24:18.000 I just need to insert this fact, that the apportionment of congressional seats and also electoral college votes...
01:24:26.000 It counts illegal aliens in the apportionment.
01:24:30.000 So California has four or five extra electoral votes in the presidential race by virtue of harboring millions of illegal immigrants.
01:24:38.000 Is this something that can be undone on a state level?
01:24:41.000 Can Trump executive order this?
01:24:43.000 So Wilbur Ross, who conducts the census, he was the Secretary of Commerce when Trump was president before.
01:24:51.000 before he tried just to introduce the question of whether you're a citizen or not on the census.
01:24:57.000 And there was so much blowback and they, and I think they gave up the fight.
01:25:02.000 Hopefully Trump will bring this fight again and at least ask the question.
01:25:07.000 And then you, I think Trump should definitely, Governor DeSantis is trying to do this right now in Florida, but the legislature is refusing to cooperate with him.
01:25:15.000 Wow.
01:25:15.000 Yes.
01:25:16.000 Well, because...
01:25:17.000 It's politically risky.
01:25:18.000 There's going to be Republicans.
01:25:20.000 It's the rhinos that are leading the charge, because they're worried they're going to lose votes and they're not going to be able to reckon.
01:25:26.000 That was the whole idea, to get them not to have IDs.
01:25:29.000 In whatever way Trump can, he should be issuing executive orders on this.
01:25:33.000 It is limited because it's a constitutional question, and then it's a legislative question, but I'm sure there's some policy Trump can take.
01:25:44.000 That can at least smooth out the edges a little bit or something.
01:25:47.000 The last census, I have heard stories of there being significant irregularities in it and that being a massive problem.
01:25:57.000 And also, that speaks to the importance of the census coming up in 2030, first of all.
01:26:02.000 Second of all, there was a policy by the Health and Human Services, by HHS, to transport...
01:26:12.000 Essentially, illegal migrants, people that came here and said that they were looking for asylum, but it was anyone that could get here.
01:26:20.000 It was called the Refugee Resettlement Program.
01:26:22.000 Hopefully, the Trump administration will end that, but what they were doing is that was the program in which they were actually taking people that came and claimed asylum and moving them specifically to places that were purple states in order to get more votes for...
01:26:41.000 For Democrats.
01:26:41.000 But you know who the refugee is?
01:26:44.000 By the international law, the refugee is a person who flees from the first, from the country on conflict to the first safe country.
01:26:53.000 You're not traveling around the world.
01:26:55.000 So when I'm asked about the refugee, how many refugees Poland have taken, you know, Katie Newman, I said zero.
01:27:02.000 That was an outrage.
01:27:03.000 How can you say that?
01:27:05.000 I'm proud of that.
01:27:07.000 Next time I go visit Spain or France or Germany, just maybe to take in the culture, if people ask me what I'm doing, I'll just say I'm a refugee.
01:27:13.000 Yeah, you can.
01:27:15.000 And then I'll be paying for your bloody hotel bill.
01:27:18.000 What's interesting, I have heard the Trump administration may amend the 1951 Refugee Convention because...
01:27:25.000 The phrase in there, it's very similar to AOC's Green New Deal, was a refugee is anyone unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin.
01:27:32.000 So if you just don't feel like it, I'm unwilling to pay taxes.
01:27:36.000 I'm a tax refugee.
01:27:38.000 The point of me bringing this up is this is something that was funded by the government to...
01:27:44.000 Basically water down the votes of conservatives.
01:27:47.000 And partially, the goal was to establish a one-party control over the whole country.
01:27:54.000 And that was one of the things that Elon Musk took a lot of flack for pointing out, that people were coming to the country, they were being moved around the country by the government, by the Democrats.
01:28:04.000 And they were using federal money to do it.
01:28:07.000 So they're using tax money from Republicans to basically water down Republican votes.
01:28:12.000 This is why we actually have such a high volume of Indian migration in the UK. So Rishi Sunak, who now lives in your country, by the way.
01:28:18.000 He's in California.
01:28:19.000 He moved there permanently?
01:28:20.000 He's going to move over permanently, yeah.
01:28:22.000 So, you know, he just cut and run.
01:28:24.000 I suppose he called an election because he wanted to get his kids into a nice school by the next term.
01:28:29.000 He wrote a paper in 2014, something like The Changing Face of Britain, and he noted that Indians voted a larger propensity than other ethnic minorities for conservative parties.
01:28:40.000 And so he said, he did an interview with Qatari-funded media Al Jazeera, and he said, oh, the politicians over there pointing to the Houses of Parliament might want to take note of that.
01:28:48.000 And it just so happens when you had an Indian Home Secretary in Priti Patel, You know, to me, it seems fairly logical.
01:29:04.000 Trump ends birthright citizenship.
01:29:06.000 We had Ro Khanna here the other day, who's a very reasonable man.
01:29:11.000 I'm actually curious, before I go into this, what your thoughts are on Ro Khanna.
01:29:15.000 You think we found him very reasonable?
01:29:17.000 I appreciate that he's an ideologue and not a partisan.
01:29:21.000 Now, a lot of people think those words are synonyms, but they're actually opposites that I've found.
01:29:27.000 And I don't know if Dominic has this experience too, but before I got to Congress, I would hear these words used as pejorative.
01:29:34.000 Oh, he's such an ideologue, or he's such a partisan.
01:29:36.000 What a partisan is, is they vote with their party every day.
01:29:40.000 They don't even need to read the bills.
01:29:42.000 They get the whip report on which way to vote that day.
01:29:45.000 And it's hard for me to work across the aisle with a partisan, by definition.
01:29:49.000 But if you can find an ideologue on the other side of the aisle who happens to be a Democrat, occasionally your views agree.
01:29:55.000 Like on the issues of foreign intervention, Ro Khanna and I would agree.
01:30:00.000 Now, when we were talking, he's in favor of illegal immigrants being given some form of amnesty or path to citizenship, as you would call it.
01:30:08.000 And I think that exemplifies the issue with mass migration.
01:30:14.000 I describe it with a simple analogy.
01:30:16.000 You live in an apartment with a roommate.
01:30:18.000 Every Friday, you pull your money and you vote for lunch.
01:30:21.000 And it's 50-50 sometimes, so you've got to compromise.
01:30:24.000 But, you know, you often order pizza and wings.
01:30:26.000 One day you wake up and there's a guy sleeping on your couch.
01:30:29.000 And you go, hey, who is this?
01:30:30.000 And your roommate says, ah, that's Jim.
01:30:32.000 He got kicked out.
01:30:32.000 He has nowhere to go.
01:30:33.000 He was being abused.
01:30:35.000 And please, let him stay here.
01:30:36.000 And you say, all right, fine, because I'm a nice guy.
01:30:40.000 Night or two.
01:30:41.000 And next thing, you know, it's Friday and it's time to vote for lunch.
01:30:45.000 And he's not put any money in.
01:30:46.000 But you say, I want pizza and wings again.
01:30:48.000 And your roommate says, no, we're going to get chicken salad sandwich.
01:30:51.000 And then Jim says, yeah, chicken salad sandwich.
01:30:53.000 And you say, hey, you haven't been paying into our food.
01:30:56.000 And he says, yeah, but two against one.
01:30:58.000 What are you going to do about it?
01:30:59.000 And then you don't get your lunch anymore.
01:31:01.000 And you say, okay, I guess it's okay.
01:31:03.000 I don't need to eat pizza.
01:31:04.000 But one piece of what you are familiar with, what you wanted, has been taken away.
01:31:08.000 But here's where it gets worse.
01:31:10.000 Next day you wake up, there's another guy sleeping on the couch.
01:31:12.000 And you say, whoa, I didn't agree to this.
01:31:14.000 And then your roommate and Jim both vote.
01:31:16.000 No, no.
01:31:16.000 He can stay.
01:31:17.000 Two against one.
01:31:18.000 Now it's three against one.
01:31:19.000 Then four against one.
01:31:21.000 So I'm not saying this to make it sound like I'm against immigration.
01:31:24.000 I like 01. I think brain drain, all these things are good, but it's got to be legal.
01:31:29.000 It's got to be limited.
01:31:30.000 We can't sacrifice the interests of the next generation for people who don't live in this country.
01:31:34.000 Simple.
01:31:34.000 But there's a mathematical equation here that's very simple and logical.
01:31:39.000 There is a number by which if you bring in non-Americans into this country, And give them residency, not even citizenship.
01:31:47.000 Their cultural values will outweigh the cultural values of those that have lived here.
01:31:53.000 And it's not a race thing.
01:31:55.000 As Tucker Carlson said, the interests of black Americans are the exact same as the interests of Americans.
01:31:58.000 The concern is people who are not American.
01:32:00.000 So if I wake up and I have what I describe as Christmas morning, we have pumpkin pie, we have warm bubble pie, we have baseball.
01:32:07.000 Where I grew up in Chicago, we have black people, we have Latinos, we had Asians who all loved Christmas and apple pie, and we grew up sharing in the same culture.
01:32:17.000 But if you have a very short moment, a mass influx of people from all parts of the world, then you get cultural dilution.
01:32:24.000 And at a certain point, the things you love and believe in, the traditions you care about and your laws are diluted and weighed down by the interests of people who don't share them with you.
01:32:34.000 So if we follow on the path of the Biden administration continuously, Eventually, the country will be not just unrecognizable, but ungovernable in a very bad way.
01:32:44.000 Well, it's the same when you're going to Saudi Arabia in your bikini.
01:32:48.000 Yeah, good luck.
01:32:49.000 You've got a present.
01:32:50.000 You see?
01:32:51.000 And it's the same when you, I don't know, you're going to India and then...
01:32:57.000 Trying to eat a burger.
01:32:58.000 For example.
01:32:59.000 Right.
01:33:00.000 Like, really, you know...
01:33:01.000 Well, here's a...
01:33:02.000 Raw meat, and you want this really...
01:33:05.000 Bloody burger.
01:33:08.000 Here's an example.
01:33:09.000 Well, I'll throw on top.
01:33:11.000 I went to Egypt and the Hilton's breakfast, they had American continental breakfast.
01:33:15.000 The bacon was actually beef.
01:33:17.000 It was because you can't have pork.
01:33:19.000 But there was a story in the United States where an Indian man went to Taco Bell and he ordered a burrito and he said, no beef.
01:33:27.000 They gave him beef.
01:33:29.000 And he bit it and chewed it and swallowed and then realized he had eaten beef, which was sacrilege.
01:33:34.000 And he sued and he won a good sum.
01:33:36.000 This is an old story from a couple decades ago.
01:33:39.000 That's interesting.
01:33:41.000 How would this Taco Bell have known that he was condemning a man to hell or whatever because he accidentally put the ground beef that they sell in this restaurant?
01:33:50.000 And that just...
01:33:51.000 I'm not saying anybody was right or wrong.
01:33:52.000 I'm just saying the cultural differences lead to these kinds of conflicts.
01:33:57.000 So, in Europe, because of the leftism, this situation went so far that...
01:34:03.000 In schools, kids are not allowed, Christian kids are not allowed to have sandwiches with the meat at all.
01:34:16.000 If old beef, but if you want to have a nice piggy sandwich, you're not allowed because you might offend someone.
01:34:26.000 I had this discussion with the lady.
01:34:31.000 I'm at the airport very often in Brussels and she was telling me about her kids.
01:34:36.000 They can't have sandwiches with ham.
01:34:41.000 She cannot make a sandwich because someone might be offended.
01:34:45.000 Can you believe that?
01:34:46.000 That's an absurdity.
01:34:47.000 That's reality in the European Union.
01:34:50.000 And this is what we do not want in Poland.
01:34:52.000 We don't have it and we're going to protect our culture.
01:34:55.000 We're going to fight for it because I love my ham and I love my sausage.
01:35:00.000 Americans couldn't live without bacon.
01:35:01.000 Can I issue a correction on myself I've been thinking about since I said it?
01:35:06.000 Women in Wyoming actually got the right to vote slightly after the Civil War.
01:35:13.000 But my point is that it wasn't 1919. I just wanted to issue that direction.
01:35:17.000 I think the important thing about the 19th Amendment was that the reason why it was a mistake, I'll pause so that the left and the feminists can take this clip, the 19th Amendment was a mistake.
01:35:29.000 Okay, now that we got that out of the way, I'll clarify what I really mean by that.
01:35:32.000 Actually, I have no problem with women voting.
01:35:34.000 I'm not saying that women should not be allowed to vote.
01:35:36.000 I'm saying that the reason people opposed the suffrage movement, including many women, I don't want to be compelled to serve in fire brigade.
01:35:53.000 That's men's work.
01:35:54.000 I don't need to vote.
01:35:56.000 And ultimately there was a compromise where they said we'll pass the amendment.
01:36:00.000 Women will receive no civic responsibility, but they will receive civic benefit.
01:36:04.000 And I'm not exaggerating when I say that.
01:36:05.000 That's not me slighting women.
01:36:07.000 That was actually the compromise made by the Congress and the states at the time was that they were not going to impose civic responsibility on women, but they would grant them the right to vote.
01:36:15.000 I believe right now there must be an answer to the draft question, as it is an absolute violation of, in my view, our rights in general, but also the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
01:36:28.000 The idea that only men are required to sign up for selective service.
01:36:33.000 but women are entitled to all rights and privileges without the responsibilities.
01:36:39.000 So right now, this would impose, I believe, an unjust requirement on men that is not on women.
01:36:45.000 So you have one of two options.
01:36:47.000 Something's wrong with the 1964 Civil Rights Act, or something's wrong with the 19th Amendment, but you've got to pick one of them.
01:36:53.000 Real quick, on that issue of commitment to public service, I was talking to my Amish royal milk supplier, and I bring him news for me.
01:37:01.000 As we do.
01:37:02.000 I bring him news from the outside occasionally.
01:37:04.000 I love this.
01:37:06.000 They do buy soap and stuff from the outside world.
01:37:10.000 And he was talking about inflation.
01:37:11.000 And they said, well, a lot of that's caused by those stimulus checks.
01:37:14.000 But I'm sure you don't know about those.
01:37:16.000 You didn't get those.
01:37:17.000 He's like, oh, no, we got the checks.
01:37:19.000 And I'm like, what did you do with them?
01:37:21.000 We burned them.
01:37:24.000 And I said, why did you burn them?
01:37:27.000 And he says, you take the check.
01:37:29.000 Before you know it, they send you to war.
01:37:32.000 Because right now they have conscientious objector.
01:37:37.000 By default, if you're Amish, you don't enter the draft.
01:37:41.000 By us, we have a lot of Amish farms.
01:37:44.000 But he didn't expect to take the money and then not be obligated to war later on.
01:37:49.000 Smart.
01:37:50.000 I just wanted to weigh in on what you said, Tim.
01:37:52.000 So you asked if there was either something wrong with the 1964 Civil Rights Act or the draft as it was.
01:37:58.000 The 1964 Civil Rights Act was absolutely correct as it said that communists are not people.
01:38:04.000 This is true.
01:38:05.000 So it can't possibly be that.
01:38:07.000 So we need to issue a fact check clarification.
01:38:11.000 She's not joking.
01:38:12.000 It actually says that.
01:38:13.000 It says that something to the effect of this law shall not be construed to provide protections for communist groups or organizations that are communist.
01:38:21.000 That's kind of crazy when you think about it.
01:38:23.000 That's codified.
01:38:24.000 That means that you could assert an ideology and strip yourself of rights in this country.
01:38:28.000 Yeah, and that's been upheld.
01:38:30.000 That's been upheld in New York against teachers.
01:38:33.000 Yeah, there's a case that it's been upheld, and somebody can fact-check me on this in the chat.
01:38:38.000 In all seriousness, I do think...
01:38:41.000 Well, let me say this first.
01:38:43.000 Democrats are in favor of women being drafted.
01:38:46.000 Whenever the question has arisen, it's largely been Democrats who have said, we want this.
01:38:50.000 And for equality reasons...
01:38:53.000 Republicans on moral traditionalist reasons say women should not be in combat or in the military.
01:38:59.000 No, women should definitely not be drafted.
01:39:01.000 Once you are sending women to fight your wars, you don't have a country.
01:39:06.000 Draft doesn't mean combat.
01:39:09.000 It doesn't mean combat.
01:39:11.000 But once you're sending women into these positions, forcing women into these positions, the people who carry the babies and carry on the next line of the future, you don't really have...
01:39:22.000 What are you fighting for?
01:39:23.000 You're not really fighting for the future of your country when you're sending everybody that makes the babies into war to defend the soil?
01:39:29.000 Well, we have a problem right now in this country that has been quite acrimonious in that women are not required to provide equal responsibility.
01:39:40.000 And it's a fact.
01:39:41.000 Women don't have to sign up for selective service.
01:39:44.000 This is unconstitutional.
01:39:45.000 This is a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
01:39:48.000 So something must be remedied here.
01:39:50.000 I think they should just get rid of it altogether.
01:39:52.000 I don't think men or women should be conscripted or forced to serve in a war that they don't want to fight in.
01:39:59.000 I disagree on that.
01:40:00.000 What's your opinion?
01:40:02.000 Conscription?
01:40:03.000 Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't believe the founding fathers were intending to be like, we are going to force young men to get on boats, go halfway around the world, and go fight for some resources and some faraway land on sort of.
01:40:14.000 I think the intention of conscription, part of the reason why they removed, there was a portion, and you probably know this, the portion of the original Second Amendment, which I think was like Article 5 or something, stated that conscription was not that.
01:40:31.000 I forgot the exact wording, but there was a phrase that you did not need to serve in the military to have a right to bear arms, and they were concerned that by leaving that in, It could be construed as a, you don't have to be conscripted.
01:40:42.000 And so they said, let's just simplify it.
01:40:44.000 Conscription at the time was, if we get invaded and our homeland is being burned down and our lives are destroyed, we are going to bring young men to come and fight with us.
01:40:53.000 What it's turned into is, we have a peacekeeping operation in Vietnam where we faked an attack on one of our vessels to generate public support for, and now you are hereby forced against your will to go fight it.
01:41:04.000 So there's a difference in what it means to be drafted in what the corrupt I've got to be honest.
01:41:18.000 If the Democrats were in power, as we saw with the establishment, I'd tell them to screw off and I'd look to my family.
01:41:23.000 But in a purest sense, assuming there's no corruption in government, if someone attacks our country, I would respond with, what can I do?
01:41:31.000 Tell me where to stand.
01:41:32.000 I will help.
01:41:33.000 It's hard because men, young men who are, you know, primarily military age men in our country, they don't love our country.
01:41:39.000 And I mean, I honestly don't blame them the way that they're treated.
01:41:43.000 I blame TikTok.
01:41:45.000 It's TikTok.
01:41:46.000 So the way that they're treated, you know, men are demoralized.
01:41:50.000 They're not taken for jobs that they are qualified for.
01:41:55.000 They're not as educated as the left would say as others because they might go into a trade or something.
01:42:00.000 They're just very demoralized and so they're like, what is the point?
01:42:04.000 We don't love our country.
01:42:05.000 I'm never going to get married.
01:42:07.000 I don't know if I want kids.
01:42:09.000 They're ruined by porn.
01:42:10.000 They're ruined by TikTok.
01:42:11.000 They're ruined by all of this shit coming in.
01:42:15.000 So why on earth would they want to die for this country, a country that does this to them?
01:42:22.000 So we have this tweet.
01:42:24.000 And Wokeness tweeted, the State Department issues a one-flag policy.
01:42:27.000 American flags can be flown.
01:42:28.000 Nothing else.
01:42:29.000 I don't know if that's confirmed or not.
01:42:32.000 The Department of State just said, today the Deputy Secretary of State Sherman and senior officials raised the Progress Pride...
01:42:37.000 This is 2021. Yeah.
01:42:40.000 Oh, this is old.
01:42:41.000 Yeah, yeah, this is old.
01:42:42.000 So this video is old.
01:42:44.000 I wonder if there's another source of this, but...
01:42:46.000 Outside of that, we're going to go to Super Chats.
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01:43:05.000 We're planning on implementing maybe at the beginning of the show, as we do sometimes, and around the 9.30 mark Eastern time, maybe a couple of ads because, well, we've got to pay the bills.
01:43:13.000 But we've largely held off on this because U.S. members are a better means, in my opinion, of making a good, legitimate show for everybody with less interruptions.
01:43:22.000 But I will say this.
01:43:23.000 We're not going to have the members-only show as we normally do tonight because we're currently in D.C. in a special space, but we do have an amazing, unsubstant show.
01:43:32.000 Uncensored Green Room episode with our friend Dominic over here, member of European Parliament.
01:43:37.000 Thank you for having me.
01:43:38.000 It was incredible.
01:43:39.000 The story you told about Russia and the Soviet Union and communism and the conversation was really fantastic.
01:43:44.000 I hate them.
01:43:45.000 I must say that by their actions you have to pay the consequences.
01:43:49.000 They have to convert.
01:43:50.000 Russia has to convert.
01:43:52.000 So it is uncensored.
01:43:53.000 I'll put it that way.
01:43:54.000 And I recommend you check that out because you will also be supporting the show.
01:43:57.000 But we'll read your Super Chats now.
01:43:58.000 So we have Schlitt who asks, Rhett Massey, when can we repeal the Hughes Amendment?
01:44:03.000 Yes.
01:44:06.000 Can you explain what it is?
01:44:08.000 I think he's talking about the 1985 amendment to the bill that ostensibly was supposed to be a good bill to allow interstate transport and firearms.
01:44:20.000 And at the last second, by voice vote, like, I wished I had been here.
01:44:24.000 I would have been that dude.
01:44:25.000 Like, I object.
01:44:26.000 But at the last second, they added this amendment that said there'll be no more fully automatic firearms that can come into civilian possession.
01:44:33.000 That is terrible.
01:44:35.000 It is terrible.
01:44:37.000 And by the way, these guns are not used in crimes, haven't been used in crimes.
01:44:42.000 I may have a few of them.
01:44:44.000 They have had them before the boating accident.
01:44:46.000 Who knows?
01:44:48.000 It should be repealed.
01:44:50.000 I mean, what's not clear about the Second Amendment?
01:44:53.000 Shall not be infringed.
01:44:55.000 Shall not be infringed.
01:44:56.000 And it's been infringed every step of the way.
01:44:59.000 The NFA is an infringement.
01:45:01.000 The Sportsman Protection Act is an infringement.
01:45:08.000 There was a 1934, I forget the name of the bill.
01:45:13.000 National Firearms Act.
01:45:15.000 Yeah, the National Firearms Act.
01:45:16.000 I mean, all of these are infringed.
01:45:19.000 The existence of the ATF is an infringement.
01:45:21.000 I mean, we have an FBI. So the FBI can handle what the ATF does.
01:45:27.000 We don't need an ATF. There's a bill that's floating around Congress, I'm sure you're familiar with it, to abolish the ATF. And I would love to see more congressmen get on board with that and get that to Donald Trump's desk.
01:45:39.000 Jacob Hawley says, let's go, populist, Republican, libertarian coalition.
01:45:43.000 God, I'm so invigorated.
01:45:45.000 We keep winning.
01:45:46.000 It feels so good.
01:45:47.000 I'm crying.
01:45:48.000 Wow.
01:45:48.000 Mr. Tarczynski, you must be prime minister or president of Poland.
01:45:53.000 One day.
01:45:53.000 One day!
01:45:54.000 Yeah!
01:45:55.000 Love it!
01:45:55.000 My plan is to run in 10 years.
01:46:00.000 In America, it's a different way of talking about it.
01:46:03.000 Yeah, nobody wants to admit it.
01:46:05.000 Right, right.
01:46:05.000 I already admit it.
01:46:07.000 I want to run in 10 years for president.
01:46:09.000 We have a bunch of laws here to where as soon as you announce candidacy, there's like a bunch of restrictions.
01:46:15.000 Yep.
01:46:15.000 So everyone just says we're exploring.
01:46:18.000 No, no, I can say what my dreams are.
01:46:21.000 Come on, you're not going to restrict my dreams.
01:46:23.000 I want to be a president.
01:46:24.000 I'm going to do whatever I can to become one one day.
01:46:26.000 That's it.
01:46:27.000 I want to do it in 10 years.
01:46:29.000 Right on.
01:46:30.000 All right, Freeman Dive Free says, the federal judge slash prosecutor in Ross's case openly stated they wanted to make an example out of him because he is a libertarian and his sentence was how they did so.
01:46:41.000 Wow.
01:46:43.000 Terrifying.
01:46:44.000 Yep.
01:46:44.000 Well, they've done the same thing after the riots in London.
01:46:48.000 It's funny, there are currently people in prison for Facebook and ex-posts about the perpetrator of the Southport massacre, the murderer Axel Rudipakana, not a Welshman, it turns out, a second generation Rwandan migrant, possibly an Islamic convert in possession of Al-Qaeda manual and praying in a mosque in prison to be believed.
01:47:05.000 There are people that said a Muslim did this during the summer riots, and I believe his name is Wayne O'Rourke.
01:47:12.000 He's currently in prison, I think, for three years for a Facebook post.
01:47:15.000 That's actually more time than some of the perpetrators of the rape gangs who are currently out of prison.
01:47:19.000 What happened to the UK? Tony Blair?
01:47:25.000 That's what happened.
01:47:27.000 That's the short answer.
01:47:28.000 Oh, jeez.
01:47:29.000 All right, all right.
01:47:32.000 Gregores, I cannot pronounce your name.
01:47:34.000 I'm sorry.
01:47:36.000 He says, gotta say 9 if not 10 out of 10. Dominic's last name pronunciation, Tim.
01:47:41.000 Impressive.
01:47:42.000 Are you ready to try mine?
01:47:43.000 Yeah, I definitely can.
01:47:44.000 Dominic is good enough.
01:47:45.000 Dominic.
01:47:46.000 I always try to get the pronunciations correct.
01:47:49.000 So before the show, I said Tarczynski.
01:47:51.000 Very good pronunciation.
01:47:51.000 It's not easy to find me on social media because of my surname, but it would be very nice if you'll find me on Twitter and Instagram, Dominic Tarczynski.
01:48:00.000 Tarczynski.
01:48:00.000 Yeah, T-A-R-C-Z-Y. Yeah.
01:48:03.000 So, Gregor's last name is B-R-Z-E-C-Z-Y-S-C-Z-Y-K-I-E-W-I-C-Z. Bless you.
01:48:14.000 Bless you.
01:48:15.000 I love Polish language.
01:48:16.000 It's not easy.
01:48:18.000 Yeah, growing up where I did, I had a lot of friends who were Polish, and so their names, you know, S-Z-C-Zs.
01:48:25.000 That's right, yes.
01:48:26.000 A lot of that stuff.
01:48:27.000 And it is fascinating that it wasn't until I had left that I actually learned why so many Polish people lived in my neighborhood.
01:48:34.000 And it's kind of crazy that I didn't realize that until I was an adult, I was like, hey, wait a minute, my friends fled communism.
01:48:42.000 That's right.
01:48:43.000 They were little kids, and that was going on.
01:48:44.000 Their parents had to flee.
01:48:46.000 And we had this fight for years.
01:48:48.000 Yes, that's why I really want you to come to Poland with your cameras.
01:48:52.000 And we would do a great journey on the streets and interview on the streets of Warsaw, Krakow and other beautiful places.
01:49:00.000 You will see the difference, the differences.
01:49:03.000 Because what I say, Poland is the safest country in Europe, the lowest unemployment, the least number of rapes, the highest GBT after COVID.
01:49:13.000 All this you have to see.
01:49:15.000 Was it hard to get out of the country during the Soviet era?
01:49:19.000 Very hard.
01:49:22.000 They would shoot you.
01:49:25.000 Wow.
01:49:26.000 Yeah, they would kill you.
01:49:27.000 Like Berlin Wall, right?
01:49:29.000 You try to cross and you're killed.
01:49:32.000 That's communists.
01:49:32.000 That's what they do.
01:49:33.000 They kill you.
01:49:34.000 So if they cannot kill you, they kill your family.
01:49:37.000 Nobody was trying to flee from West Germany into East Germany.
01:49:42.000 That's the question I keep asking communists, leftists, and Democrats, so-called Democrats.
01:49:48.000 And I keep asking many of those who hate Christians.
01:49:53.000 If you hate Christian countries and Christians, why are you here?
01:49:58.000 And then what we see in the United States is that where I live, for instance, there are people who live, who work in the Washington, D.C. area, who then move to West Virginia, where the laws are better and you can defend yourself, but then they vote for policies that reflect where they're trying to stay away from.
01:50:16.000 And so this is true largely for immigration as well.
01:50:19.000 There's a viral video after Assad's government fell and he fled to Russia, There were people, I believe it was in the UK, being asked, now that, there's like some guy walking around, he goes like, now that Syria's free, will you go home?
01:50:31.000 And they go, well...
01:50:33.000 My brother, my brother, the economy not so good now, my brother.
01:50:35.000 Yes, you saw that video, it's not so good.
01:50:37.000 Uh-huh.
01:50:38.000 It was about something else, right?
01:50:41.000 Okay, let's grab some more subjects.
01:50:43.000 Ted Thornton says, better that ten guilty people go free than even one innocent person suffer, yet they will continue to hold them regardless of their innocence.
01:50:52.000 And the reason why Blackstone's formulation was so important that Benjamin Franklin increased it by an order of magnitude, saying 100 guilty persons escape, is that in a society where the implication is even if you are innocent, we will imprison you, there is no incentive to be innocent.
01:51:10.000 There's only an incentive to be cutthroat and fight for yourself.
01:51:14.000 And so I believe Otto von Bismarck famously said it is better that 10 innocent people suffer than one guilty person escape.
01:51:21.000 The problem with that ideology is it eventually collapses as everyone begins just betraying everybody out of fear.
01:51:27.000 The stories I've heard from the Soviet Union, a friend told me that there were two apartments.
01:51:32.000 This was in Kiev.
01:51:34.000 And the neighbors got into a fight over something mundane, but neighbors fight.
01:51:39.000 So one of the neighbors called the police and said, I overheard my neighbor saying communism was bad.
01:51:45.000 The next day when they woke up, their apartment was completely empty and the person was never seen from again.
01:51:50.000 Of course.
01:51:51.000 The food stamps is our reality.
01:51:53.000 That was our reality.
01:51:55.000 We had food stamps.
01:51:56.000 I remember it.
01:51:57.000 If you wanted to buy a sugar, you could buy a pack of sugar once a month, then they took your food stamp, and then you've got another stamp, and you buy pork, like, I don't know, half a kilo or whatever.
01:52:09.000 Was it Tim?
01:52:11.000 Tim, in the United States, we call that a homeowners association.
01:52:15.000 Well, but it wasn't funny to us.
01:52:18.000 It wasn't funny at all.
01:52:19.000 It was really hard.
01:52:20.000 So if someone is trying to ask me about leftism, leftist ideology, any good social way of thinking and supporting those poor and equal rights in the way that everyone is equal and all this, I'm trying to...
01:52:40.000 Tell them about my story, the story of Europe.
01:52:43.000 Yeah.
01:52:44.000 Behind the Iron Curtain.
01:52:45.000 You would never understand how hard it is when you lose everything, even your dignity.
01:52:53.000 Michael Malice talks about this.
01:52:55.000 He says people in this country genuinely do not understand how bad it could get.
01:52:59.000 How bad possible, how possibly bad it could be.
01:53:04.000 Okay, so I'll tell you.
01:53:05.000 And it's real.
01:53:08.000 First of all, you are losing your nails, then they are taking out your teeth, your eyes, they cut your ears, they're waiting, and then they shoot you if you like.
01:53:22.000 That's what they did.
01:53:23.000 When you speak ill of their regime?
01:53:25.000 That's what happened with the soldiers like my grandpa father after 1945 when Russians took over.
01:53:34.000 This is what they did to hundreds.
01:53:37.000 Of thousands of Polish people, right?
01:53:40.000 So if we are talking about communists not being humans, humans do not behave like this.
01:53:46.000 You know, I think that's part of the reason Trump won this election.
01:53:49.000 People saw what they were doing to him.
01:53:51.000 Political prosecution, weaponization of the court system.
01:53:55.000 That's right.
01:53:55.000 And they said, if they can do that to him.
01:53:56.000 It's a modern form of communism.
01:53:58.000 We are next.
01:53:59.000 Tyranny.
01:53:59.000 It might be more mild here because of the...
01:54:04.000 The culture here, but it doesn't mean that it couldn't get to exactly what we're talking about.
01:54:07.000 That is why always, always, America first.
01:54:11.000 Poland first.
01:54:12.000 Great Britain first.
01:54:13.000 We are responsible for our homes.
01:54:16.000 This is our homeland, and we have to fight for it.
01:54:19.000 Not getting crazy with all these ideologies coming from the left.
01:54:24.000 Like they said, this migration is an enrichment for our society.
01:54:32.000 So I said to them, okay.
01:54:33.000 Take them, take them all, and pay for them.
01:54:37.000 Isn't it strange?
01:54:37.000 You're going to be rich and in-rich.
01:54:40.000 Let's grab this one from the Torn.
01:54:41.000 He says, Rep.
01:54:42.000 Thomas Massey is so based that, quote, based was afraid to ask for his permission to represent him.
01:54:48.000 Congress sure can use more people just like him.
01:54:52.000 Bravo.
01:54:53.000 I would take two more.
01:54:55.000 If you could just send me a couple more.
01:54:57.000 Could we get a few dozen?
01:54:58.000 I mean, there's 435 of you guys.
01:55:01.000 Are there any members of Congress that you would shout out as doing good work?
01:55:06.000 In the battles that are coming up, I'm going to give Victoria Sparks a shout out.
01:55:09.000 She grew up in the Soviet Union, Ukraine, and she can see...
01:55:15.000 You know what Dominique sees?
01:55:16.000 She's like, you're not too far away from that.
01:55:18.000 With the oligarchs, they're running the healthcare systems, for instance.
01:55:22.000 She's like, this is like...
01:55:23.000 You have to be very vigilant.
01:55:24.000 You have to be very careful.
01:55:26.000 The minute the left started accusing the incoming administration of being oligarchs, my eye perked up, and I'm like, okay, well...
01:55:32.000 You know, accuse your enemy of that which you are doing.
01:55:34.000 I'm like, where are their oligarchs?
01:55:35.000 Oh, it's everywhere.
01:55:36.000 It's the healthcare.
01:55:37.000 It's in the food.
01:55:38.000 It's in the sugar.
01:55:39.000 It's in, you know, big tech.
01:55:40.000 It's everywhere.
01:55:40.000 There was a, to be a little bit cliche for all of you, I'm going to tell you a story, and it's an Occupy Wall Street one.
01:55:46.000 But I think one of the best stories I have probably from Occupy was there were two young college-age socialists arguing with a police officer who was in his 50s, and he was telling them How his family fled communism.
01:56:02.000 He was a child during communism.
01:56:04.000 And how devastating it was.
01:56:08.000 The torture, the murder, the kidnappings, the fear of waking up in the middle of the night, someone banging on your door.
01:56:15.000 And these young people are arguing with this guy who literally, in his life, had fled communism.
01:56:21.000 So this is 2011. And so it was not even that long ago.
01:56:25.000 This guy was a young man when he had fled.
01:56:28.000 And I think the most profound thing about this story was this man who was explaining how he fled communism and they were wrong was morbidly obese.
01:56:36.000 Talk about a major shift in coming to this country and, you know, with all due respect, I mean, he had more food than he could ever dream of.
01:56:44.000 So, you know, these young people, they don't want to listen.
01:56:47.000 They don't quite understand.
01:56:48.000 But it was really interesting to hear him tell that to these people.
01:56:52.000 Another funny thing that happened was there was a table.
01:56:57.000 giving out literature and uh at occupy i asked them i said one of the issues that the occupiers were having was that they only have so much food to give out and so there are people at the park who are doing things like cleaning up right and uh and helping organize and the problem is once they're done cleaning by the time they finish their work they go to the kitchen and the food's gone
01:57:20.000 so how can we ensure that those who are actually contributing to the movement are receiving food not as compensation but because they need to eat to survive and they And this woman said, maybe there's some kind of work certificate or piece of paper they could give out that represents the work you do.
01:57:36.000 And I said, so we could give pieces of paper that represent the labor, and so we can hand those in for things like food and clothing?
01:57:43.000 Right!
01:57:43.000 And I was like, like money.
01:57:45.000 And she got particularly upset.
01:57:47.000 That's why I'm trying to...
01:57:49.000 When I'm invited to do podcasts or to give a talk or whatever, I'm trying to be everywhere around the world to tell people about the communism, how it really is, because I'm the living example of this fight in my family, and people think that communism is something in the books, in the history.
01:58:10.000 It's not.
01:58:12.000 It's still present around the world, and you still have to fight it.
01:58:16.000 It's in my mentions every day.
01:58:18.000 That's right.
01:58:18.000 I'm serious.
01:58:20.000 Let's grab this from the text.
01:58:21.000 He says, I work for a Fortune 500 fintech as a strategic director.
01:58:25.000 H1B is not used for the best.
01:58:27.000 They're hired specifically to undercut Americans, same as offshoring.
01:58:31.000 It's offshoring, but bringing them here instead of having them remote.
01:58:34.000 There are lots of Indian companies that game the visa lottery and make people pay, and they get imported over to depressed wages.
01:58:41.000 Ro Khanna.
01:58:42.000 The other day, had me ready to stand up and clap for him when he said leftists got, I'm paraphrasing here, but he said leftists got it wrong in this assumption that globalization was going to bring people of all races into this democratic system where we all hold hands and everyone prospers.
01:58:59.000 And all it actually did was hollow out the working class and hurt, you know, middle class and working class Americans.
01:59:05.000 And I was like, wow, coming from a Democrat.
01:59:09.000 And he said, this is my issue, that the American worker is being left behind by these policies that the left brought that we're wrong.
01:59:16.000 Luke's in the chat and he said, yo, that's my dad.
01:59:21.000 Yep.
01:59:22.000 Yeah, Luke is very excited.
01:59:23.000 Luke Rutkowski, for everybody who doesn't know of We Are Change, was born in Poland, which...
01:59:30.000 It was called the Soviet satellite, I believe.
01:59:33.000 That's right.
01:59:34.000 Never been officially part of the Soviet Union, but in fact, it was occupied.
01:59:40.000 And all the decisions were made in Moscow.
01:59:43.000 Just those who betrayed Poland, they were the soldiers of Moscow.
01:59:49.000 It's so important because they had children, grandchildren, and their grandchildren are in Polish politics now.
01:59:57.000 I am the grandson of the underground army officer who fought against communists sitting in the same parliament with the grandson of the communist officer who was taking out the thief and taking down the nails.
02:00:14.000 I know this man and I see him every day on the corridor.
02:00:18.000 People need to understand.
02:00:20.000 That is why every time when someone is inviting me to give a talk, I'm open to do it.
02:00:25.000 Whenever someone is asking me to do the podcast, I'm trying to do it because I know that I'm not that old yet.
02:00:32.000 I still remember time, the world without internet and cell phone, and I remember communism.
02:00:39.000 This is so precious.
02:00:40.000 This experience has to be given away.
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02:01:14.000 No, just find me on Twitter and Instagram.
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02:01:24.000 I'm very happy to give away my time and talk about what we have in front of us, not only about history, but about the future as well.
02:01:34.000 It's very important.
02:01:35.000 Thank you very much, Tim, for having me.
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02:01:38.000 It's very personal.
02:01:39.000 It's not my job only.
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02:01:41.000 Post that I am the member of the European Parliament, I do believe what I say.
02:01:46.000 And I do believe that this is about future of our children and grandchildren.
02:01:50.000 Just real quick, there was a question about the Hughes Amendment.
02:01:54.000 I do think there's a possibility of making progress on the Second Amendment in this Trump administration.
02:02:00.000 We could get rid of the tax and registration on suppressors, which are basically hearing protection.
02:02:05.000 I'm about to introduce a national constitutional carry bill, which...
02:02:10.000 It basically says it doesn't matter which state you live in, you still have the Second Amendment right to carry a firearm without asking the government's permission.
02:02:18.000 That's awesome.
02:02:18.000 So there are some bright things in the future, and people, if you look for my hashtag Sassy with Massey, you'll find some of my more acidic stuff.
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02:02:47.000 I just wanted to read this $100 super chat because I thought that was really nice.
02:02:51.000 It said, shout out to Thomas Massey, Josie, Polish dude.
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02:03:40.000 We don't normally announce guests, but we've got some good friends that are joining us.
02:03:44.000 The reason why we don't usually announce guests is because when someone's schedule changes, these things happen.
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02:03:53.000 Angela McArdle and Matt Walsh.
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