Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump Rally Goers Suffer Mysterious Injuries, Chemical Attack Investigated w-Matt Walsh| Timcast IRLTrump Rally Goers Suffer Mysterious Injuries, Chemical Attack Investigated w-Matt Walsh| Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Thank you for watching.

00:00:18.000 Eye injuries?

00:00:19.000 Runny noses?

00:00:20.000 This story's pretty crazy.

00:00:21.000 Earlier in the morning, I covered this on my morning show, that there were about six people suffering these injuries after attending a Trump rally.

00:00:26.000 The Blaze is now reporting it's up to around 20 individuals who have these mysterious symptoms, and they're investigating a possible chemical attack.

00:00:34.000 One woman said that after attending the rally, her eyes became irritated.

00:00:37.000 She went to the hospital, and they said that Have you been sprayed by something?

00:00:42.000 Because it looks like this might be a chemical spray of some sort.

00:00:45.000 Now, some people speculated that could be UV lights.

00:00:48.000 They were not properly installed or something happened.

00:00:49.000 We don't know for sure, but we'll be talking about that.

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00:02:31.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Matt Walsh.

00:02:35.000 Great to be here, and look, we're heading into our second weekend of release with the film, and feeling good.

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00:02:58.000 How you guys doing?

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00:03:10.000 Matt doesn't pay very well.

00:03:11.000 Well, I paid him reparations also in that scene, if you saw, but I took mine back when the cameras turned off.

00:03:18.000 Matt Walsh, the Indian giver. 0.96

00:03:19.000 What did you spend your reparations on?

00:03:22.000 Um, so I gave five of it to our lovely producer, Sean Hampton, works on the film, produces Matt's show, amazing guy.

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00:03:36.000 You're hanging it up?

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00:03:54.000 Hi, everyone.

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00:04:06.000 There you go.

00:04:07.000 Hannah Clare's hanging out, of course.

00:04:07.000 Yeah, very serious.

00:04:08.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Bremmer.

00:04:09.000 I'm a writer for scnr.com.

00:04:11.000 That's Scanner News.

00:04:12.000 I'm also happy to co-host.

00:04:13.000 I'm happy everyone's in the room tonight.

00:04:16.000 Let's get started.

00:04:17.000 Before all the fun, we're going to be serious, because we got this crazy story from the blaze.

00:04:21.000 Mysterious symptoms reportedly strike about 20 attendees of Trump rally campaign investigating possible chemical attack.

00:04:29.000 They say, attendees at a Trump rally in Tucson, Arizona reportedly experienced mysterious symptoms suspected of being a chemical attack.

00:04:35.000 The incident was reported in the independent news outlet, the Arizona Globe.

00:04:38.000 The report says that about 20 people in the Latinos for Trump group who appeared on stage experienced the symptoms shortly after the rally ended.

00:04:46.000 Alarmingly, the group appeared on the side of the stage where former President Donald Trump made his entry to the rally.

00:04:51.000 Among the symptoms of the affected members reported to the Arizona Globe were blurred vision, facial swelling, severe eye pain, which appeared about 30 minutes after the rally ended.

00:05:01.000 Some self-treated with milk before seeking treatment at a hospital.

00:05:04.000 Another said his face turned red and experienced peeling.

00:05:07.000 When they went to the hospital, they were told by staff that others from the rally were there seeking treatment.

00:05:12.000 One person was told by a doctor that she was suffering from a chemical burn.

00:05:15.000 After the doctor performed a dye test, that person still suffered from light sensitivity and blurry vision days later.

00:05:22.000 Christy Kelly, the reporter who broke the story at the Amazon Globe, gave an exclusive comment to The Blaze, providing more detail, saying, I personally spoke to at least eight Latino Trump supporters who were affected at the Tucson rally.

00:05:31.000 They are passionate patriots, deeply concerned about President Trump's continued well-being and their own recovery.

00:05:36.000 Now right away, I'll just say this.

00:05:37.000 thorough investigation into what happened at the event.

00:05:39.000 The injuries they experienced vary, but the people I spoke to all sought medical treatment

00:05:43.000 afterward.

00:05:44.000 I have reviewed two medical reports that confirm these injuries, and the attendees are united

00:05:48.000 in their desire for accountability from the venue.

00:05:50.000 Despite their personal health struggles, their focus remains on supporting former President

00:05:55.000 Donald Trump." 0.73

00:05:56.000 Now right away, I'll just say this.

00:05:57.000 I think the most diehard Trump supporters are going to suspect there was some foul play.

00:06:01.000 Someone's trying to target Donald Trump.

00:06:03.000 We're looking at two assassination attempts now.

00:06:05.000 I don't think that's completely unreasonable.

00:06:08.000 I do think it's also fair to point out...

00:06:10.000 This sounds like it could be UV.

00:06:11.000 Facial swelling, peeling, turning red, blurry vision.

00:06:14.000 Could this be like ultraviolet light?

00:06:15.000 They were standing there and it was burning their faces and skin.

00:06:19.000 Some people report runny noses.

00:06:20.000 Did they say it was an outdoor rally?

00:06:20.000 I don't know.

00:06:23.000 I think it was indoor.

00:06:25.000 He's been doing most of his rallies indoors since the first assassination attempt.

00:06:29.000 Yeah.

00:06:30.000 It's odd to me and I don't want to, you know, create panic.

00:06:33.000 We obviously don't know what's going on.

00:06:34.000 It does seem like the reporter who broke the story is doing the best they can to make sure they're fact-checking.

00:06:42.000 It creeps me out that during the debate Kamala Harris was like, no one goes to the rallies.

00:06:46.000 The rallies are bad.

00:06:47.000 There is this sort of anti-Trump rally sentiment coming and maybe this is sort of a another aspect of like they don't want people to see Trump speak in person because he is captivating because he is charismatic and so if there are rumors that there are injuries or dangers or whatever they're hoping that will deter people from from turning out for him.

00:07:06.000 Yeah I'll say that if this story was popping up two months ago I would be pretty sure that something happened and it wasn't a deliberate attack.

00:07:17.000 But living in a world where Trump, they've tried to kill Trump twice now, you can't dismiss anything like this.

00:07:23.000 And you know, we were talking off air a little bit, just the simple fact that the last assassination attempt was on Sunday.

00:07:31.000 And now it's, what is it, Thursday now?

00:07:34.000 And it's like it might as well have happened five years ago.

00:07:38.000 The news has completely moved on.

00:07:41.000 And it's like, if this did turn out to be an actual chemical attack against Trump supporters, that's another one.

00:07:49.000 The only thing we're talking about for the next month, but that story would last about 24 hours and the media would bury it.

00:07:54.000 The fact that this story isn't breaking news on every cable channel, 20 attendees are experiencing facial swelling, blurred vision, one woman reported that she was blinded for days.

00:08:06.000 How is this not the lead story?

00:08:09.000 Also, couldn't MSNBC be running this as an anti-Trump story, being like Trump doesn't take care of his attendees? 0.95

00:08:15.000 I mean, the reality is, the story is too in the direction of someone is attacking Donald Trump and his supporters, and even if the left tried to paint this as the venue screwed up and it's, you know, Trump is stupid or whatever, it still sounds too much like there's a bunch of bad things and violence directed towards the right, not the left.

00:08:35.000 Which they don't want Trump to seem sympathetic at all, so they can't talk about anything that happens. 0.79

00:08:40.000 They can't talk about the effects on the rallygoers, and they can't talk about the assassination attempt.

00:08:44.000 I mean, really, we were still talking about the Butler assassination attempt at this point in the week in July.

00:08:49.000 But instead, with the second attempt, they're saying, well, does it even really count?

00:08:53.000 He didn't, the shooter, potential shooter didn't fire off a round.

00:08:56.000 Let's just stop talking about it.

00:08:58.000 They have more air time to Donald Trump saying they're eating the dogs than they did to the

00:09:02.000 second assassination attempt of a former president.

00:09:05.000 That's crazy.

00:09:06.000 I do love that we're qualifying assassination attempts now.

00:09:08.000 Yeah.

00:09:09.000 Yeah.

00:09:10.000 Well, you know, how close did he really get?

00:09:11.000 Guy just had a gun.

00:09:12.000 He was on the golf course.

00:09:14.000 I mean, what do you guys want us to do? 1.00

00:09:16.000 I mean, the scary thing about the second attempt is this guy was a moron. 0.95

00:09:19.000 And if he was in any way slightly smarter, so he stuck the barrel of his SKS through the fence and the Secret Service, this is what I understand to have happened, they saw the barrel sticking out and the reporting was they're trained to look for straight objects in trees because trees are not straight objects. 0.98

00:09:36.000 If he had pulled back in the tree line and kept the barrel of his weapon hidden, concealed, I don't know if they would have stopped, they would have caught him.

00:09:44.000 They didn't do a perimeter sweep.

00:09:46.000 Either way, I'll say this.

00:09:48.000 The fact that when the first assassination happened, it wasn't a, every radio station in the country, every television channel said, ladies and gentlemen, the former president has been shot.

00:09:57.000 He is okay.

00:09:57.000 The baloney grazed him.

00:09:59.000 Nobody cared.

00:10:00.000 Nobody even knew it happened for like, some people didn't hear about it until a day or two later.

00:10:04.000 Yeah, it should.

00:10:05.000 I, for me, it's one of those moments.

00:10:08.000 That you'll always remember where you were when you heard because I distinctly remember we were on vacation.

00:10:13.000 I was out fishing and my wife came out and told me and it's like it should be one of those moments.

00:10:17.000 It's just one of those moments in American history that you remember for the rest of your life.

00:10:21.000 But of course the media doesn't want that.

00:10:22.000 And the other thing too, that one of the reasons why they want to bury this stuff is that,

00:10:24.000 and I was thinking about this when I was watching Trump on Gutfeld yesterday, which by the way

00:10:31.000 is like, even his ability to sit in that environment and just kind of talk to people in a really

00:10:37.000 casual way completely separates him from Kamala.

00:10:40.000 Kamala could never do that. 1.00

00:10:42.000 But it just speaks, like this guy has real physical courage in a way that we never see

00:10:49.000 from politicians anymore.

00:10:52.000 If that were me and I was doing some yaff event and I got shot, I don't think I'd be

00:10:59.000 out two months later doing another one.

00:11:01.000 And if I got a shot again?

00:11:03.000 Two days later!

00:11:04.000 Almost shot again?

00:11:05.000 Yeah.

00:11:06.000 Trump shows up at the RNC with a patch on his ear, his family too.

00:11:11.000 And my attitude was like, Mr. President, take a day off.

00:11:14.000 We're cool.

00:11:15.000 Like, it's all right.

00:11:16.000 You know, you took a bolt to the ear.

00:11:17.000 People died.

00:11:18.000 But the Trump family and Trump himself were still there.

00:11:21.000 And on the Gutfeld point, There was a great moment in Gutfeld where he asks him, uh, tell me something that, you know, like a fact people don't know about you.

00:11:28.000 And then Trump laughs and says, oh, we don't, we don't need any scandals right now.

00:11:32.000 You know, we're trying to win an election.

00:11:33.000 We're up in the polls.

00:11:34.000 Let's not, uh, he just, he's having, it sounds real.

00:11:37.000 And this is, this is the meme of like, you know, they make these movies and these tropes where a comedian who becomes president because he talks like a regular guy. 0.98

00:11:45.000 And then when Trump does it, they're screeching that he's a Nazi, that he's a fascist, that he's evil. 0.99

00:11:50.000 They try to kill him twice. 1.00

00:11:52.000 And by they, I mean anti-Trump individuals.

00:11:54.000 I'm not implying there's a specific group of people controlling things or whatever. 0.89

00:11:57.000 But there are psychotic individuals.

00:11:58.000 Although it could be a specific group.

00:11:59.000 Who knows?

00:12:00.000 I was going to say, the weird thing about the second assassination attempt is how tied into this...

00:12:04.000 freak of an individual was in pretty senior Ukrainian groups. 0.95

00:12:09.000 Oh yeah.

00:12:11.000 He's not just a random guy, he is someone with a specific political bent.

00:12:16.000 And one who seems to, I'm not, you know, assuming there's a conspiracy here, but one who had like access to Democratic politicians in the U.S.

00:12:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:22.000 and was going to Ukraine pretty frequently.

00:12:23.000 It's just bizarre how close some of these psychos are to... I mean, why aren't you assuming conspiracy theories?

00:12:30.000 Well, because I try not to get sued.

00:12:34.000 That's a good reason to do it.

00:12:35.000 Fair enough.

00:12:36.000 No, I mean, what conspiracy theory on the assassinations is there to entertain, right?

00:12:43.000 I don't think that anything we would reasonably discern from the second assassination attempt could warrant what we described as a conspiracy theory.

00:12:51.000 So of course, I said on my show when this happens, you've got a guy who reportedly has

00:12:55.000 a Ukrainian service contract.

00:12:58.000 We don't know if it's for him or someone else.

00:13:00.000 But according to Semaphore, he has actually sought to recruit individuals to join the

00:13:04.000 International Volunteer Coalition in Ukraine.

00:13:08.000 That being said, if this guy has fought in Ukraine, according to Newsweek, according

00:13:15.000 to Semaphore, was recruiting, we absolutely must investigate possible Ukrainian official

00:13:21.000 capacity in the attempt.

00:13:24.000 And that is not to say I believe Ukraine was involved.

00:13:27.000 It's to say that any reasonable person would at least say, well, okay, this is where the guy was coming from.

00:13:32.000 How does he travel?

00:13:33.000 Where does he get the money for these weapons?

00:13:35.000 Why don't we go and ask?

00:13:36.000 And here's the funny thing.

00:13:37.000 I get these liberal journalists being like, Oh, he's pushing conspiracy theories, anti-Ukraine, blah blah blah.

00:13:45.000 And I'm like, journalists actually asked Ukrainian officials this exact question.

00:13:48.000 And they responded with, we don't know this guy, we disavow.

00:13:50.000 So my question wasn't even unreasonable.

00:13:53.000 I didn't read into this too deeply, but wasn't the guy also known for getting into armed standoffs with local police?

00:14:00.000 He had two previous convictions, and one was for possession of weapons of mass destruction.

00:14:06.000 I mean, I think the issue is that he is... You trying to blind us with your flashlight over there?

00:14:12.000 Need more attention?

00:14:13.000 The movie's not enough?

00:14:14.000 He was trying to tell me in a professional way, and I just... He was like, these hand gestures mean nothing to me.

00:14:19.000 He's a big star now.

00:14:20.000 He doesn't need your hand gestures.

00:14:22.000 No, I mean, I think the reality is we are going to get as little information about this second person who plotted to kill President Trump as the media and whatever government agencies can possibly give us, right?

00:14:35.000 They'll give us something to say, well, we're not incompetent, but they do not want to talk about any potential connection to a foreign government, any sort of political motive.

00:14:43.000 And I think that only increases American distrust in these institutions that are saying, no, I mean, the FBI today was saying, we're devoting all of our resources to investigating this.

00:14:53.000 Well, what I would say about that is, it's perfectly possible there are conspiracies for both of these things, or they're connected.

00:14:58.000 I mean, who knows?

00:15:00.000 We can't dismiss any of that.

00:15:03.000 It's also true that Trump's enemies are setting up a situation where you would expect random people to start trying to shoot him.

00:15:12.000 I mean, this is what happens when you relentlessly propagandize and tell the American public for like 10 years that this guy is Hitler incarnate. 0.85

00:15:25.000 He's a dictator.

00:15:26.000 He wants to destroy democracy. 0.98

00:15:28.000 He's a danger and a threat to the whole world.

00:15:31.000 So when you say that about somebody relentlessly for a decade, this is exactly what happens.

00:15:37.000 It's exactly what you would expect.

00:15:39.000 The left calls that stochastic terrorism.

00:15:42.000 Right.

00:15:43.000 They came up with a name for their own actions.

00:15:46.000 That's right.

00:15:46.000 Indeed.

00:15:47.000 A thing that we don't see happening in the other direction.

00:15:50.000 Elon Musk is actually, he's getting, I don't know if you guys heard this, he's being probed.

00:15:55.000 That's the word they like to use, he's being probed.

00:15:57.000 It's uncomfortable.

00:15:58.000 We don't have to use that word though.

00:15:59.000 Investigated.

00:16:00.000 Let's use that.

00:16:01.000 They said FBI launches probe into Elon Musk because he tweeted something like, you know, no one's trying to assassinate Biden or Kamala.

00:16:08.000 He deleted it, said it was a joke.

00:16:09.000 I don't think he should have said it was a joke, because it wasn't.

00:16:11.000 I think the point he was making is that, as crazy as things are, you've got people like Whoopi Goldberg saying, it's just one side.

00:16:17.000 It's Trump.

00:16:17.000 You've got the media saying Trump's a threat to democracy.

00:16:19.000 And he's like, yeah, but there's no right-wingers going after Kamala or Biden.

00:16:25.000 Heaven forbid.

00:16:26.000 We don't want any of that to happen.

00:16:27.000 We don't want Trump to be targeted.

00:16:28.000 I don't want Biden or Kamala or anybody to be attacked in this way.

00:16:32.000 But Elon's point, I think, is apt.

00:16:34.000 The people with all the guns are not taking shots.

00:16:38.000 And you would think the politicians that are also being protected by Secret Service, a.k.a.

00:16:38.000 Right.

00:16:42.000 Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, would say, we really want this agency to function well.

00:16:46.000 We're going to talk about this nonstop until people feel like it is a trustworthy institution.

00:16:51.000 Instead, they're like, well, we don't know.

00:16:53.000 Could be anything.

00:16:53.000 I want to pull up this tweet here from Jack Posobiec.

00:16:56.000 He says, Breaking bulletproof project update.

00:16:58.000 Matt Gaetz reveals there are five assassination teams targeting President Trump per a DHS source on American soil.

00:17:04.000 I've not yet reviewed this video.

00:17:05.000 I want to give a shout out to TokenBlackGuy, our Super Chatter on Tim Castile, who made me aware of this.

00:17:10.000 We'll play this video clip for you now of Representative Matt Gaetz.

00:17:13.000 And I'll break a little news for you.

00:17:15.000 I had a senior official from the Department of Homeland Security in my office before the second assassination attempt saying that what he has assessed is that there are five known assassination teams in the United States Three inspired by other governments, two that are known domestic assassination teams.

00:17:37.000 And with that, this individual was coming to me concerned that the force protection around President Trump, even prior to that second assassination attempt, was not sufficient for what it needed to be.

00:17:49.000 And the coordination at that level, at the dignitary protection level, is like The bare minimum that we have to do to keep our presidents, our presidential candidates safe while they're on the trail.

00:18:01.000 So there are five—I just want to follow up—five assassination teams.

00:18:05.000 Are they all targeting Trump?

00:18:06.000 Is it other officials?

00:18:07.000 Yes.

00:18:08.000 No, I should have been clear about that.

00:18:09.000 Five teams that we know are targeting Trump, and so that raises real questions about why certain teams were being pulled off of the Trump deal detail and put on, for example, the Jill Biden detail.

00:18:21.000 Now, we don't want anything bad to happen to Jill Biden, but at the same time, the threat envelope For her, it was substantially different than the threat envelope around President Trump, and it would not have necessitated pulling assets away from the Trump detail for the Jill Biden detail, or the John Bolton detail, or any other details that were beefed up.

00:18:40.000 At the same time, the requests from the Trump detail and from the Trump campaign for more security were going unanswered.

00:18:47.000 Yeah, they're saying that, you know, Trump's not the president, so he's not going to get this level of security.

00:18:52.000 With what Matt Gaetz is saying right now, that they know he is being targeted by at least five teams, I have to wonder, for what reason then would they deny him extra security?

00:19:03.000 Well, Biden kind of passed it off on Congress, right?

00:19:06.000 The day after he said, you know, I'm glad, you know, President Trump is safe and secure and Secret Service should get more resources.

00:19:12.000 And he's basically saying that's something that Congress has to authorize more funding to do.

00:19:16.000 I mean, so often it seems like when the federal or when the executive branch could step in and do something, they're like, But those crazy Republicans in the legislative branch, there's nothing we can do.

00:19:27.000 They're ruining our lives.

00:19:28.000 It's, I think, a level of irresponsibility.

00:19:32.000 They don't want to be accountable for the situations they're creating.

00:19:36.000 The most likely conspiracy that I can see is just this, that they are not doing everything that they could be doing and should be doing to protect Trump because they don't actually care if he lives.

00:19:47.000 We talk about conspiracies, there's different levels of You know, the highest level will be there's actually, in the government, they're conspiring to take him out.

00:19:56.000 There's that.

00:19:57.000 Then there's several degrees down, and somewhere you end up in a situation where they're just, where they say, well, why do we, you know, we don't want to keep him alive, so we're not going to make the effort to do it.

00:20:07.000 Yeah, it's sort of the sit back, wait, and eventually something bad happens if no one's paying attention.

00:20:12.000 When the first attack happened, I asked three questions.

00:20:16.000 Does Trump derangement syndrome exist?

00:20:18.000 Obviously, the answer is yes.

00:20:21.000 Are there Democrats who would prefer it if Trump were to have lost his life?

00:20:25.000 The answer to that is yes.

00:20:27.000 We actually had polling come out.

00:20:28.000 I think it was YouGov.

00:20:30.000 Maybe it wasn't YouGov, but there was a poll came out that said 28% of Democrats said yes to this.

00:20:35.000 That's terrifying.

00:20:36.000 And the third question is, is it possible that some of the people who work in government, in federal law enforcement, are some of these Democrats who suffer from TDS?

00:20:45.000 Well, the answer is yes, of course.

00:20:46.000 I mean, it'd be absurd not to assume that.

00:20:48.000 And that being the case, you have to wonder about how someone like this Crooks guy is able to, I don't know, fly a drone over Trump's rally, bring a weapon into Trump's rally, sneak in behind the building, how there was no security on top of the building, how they spotted him, you know, three hours, one hour, 27 minutes, 10 minutes, and two minutes before anything happened, identifying him each time.

00:21:07.000 Nothing gets done.

00:21:08.000 Trump was released from holding with an active threat on the field.

00:21:10.000 Nothing was done.

00:21:11.000 Trump wasn't pulled from the stage.

00:21:13.000 Two minutes, they had two minutes from when people spotted the gun and they didn't pull him from the stage.

00:21:17.000 I'm like, Makes me wonder how that's possible.

00:21:20.000 I mean, because if those things are all coincidences, y'all better go buy some lottery tickets because you're going to win.

00:21:26.000 So I think it was a Richard Blumenthal or some Democratic senator from Connecticut who went out and made a statement.

00:21:32.000 And this is a Dem saying this, that it's hard not to look at this and saying that the federal government wasn't trying to get Trump killed.

00:21:37.000 He's expressing really serious frustration.

00:21:39.000 He's been doing it for a couple weeks, but more recently was saying, you know, the Department of Homeland Security is stonewalling us.

00:21:46.000 I mean, this is an interesting division to have crop up.

00:21:50.000 I think that the Democrats also want answers because there is sort of a rogue division, even among people they would normally look at as their allies.

00:21:57.000 They're just not cooperating that well.

00:21:59.000 What do you think, Matt, what do you think is going to happen in the next couple of months?

00:22:02.000 We've got, what, 47 days until the election?

00:22:06.000 What I think is going to happen politically, on the election?

00:22:09.000 Well, so, I'll put it this way, you know, people are saying October surprise.

00:22:12.000 What's it going to be?

00:22:13.000 Well, there were two assassination attempts.

00:22:15.000 Yeah, that's the thing.

00:22:16.000 It's hard.

00:22:18.000 You would think if this is all being scripted out, then we're in for some great season finale here.

00:22:26.000 But it's kind of like the craziest things have already happened.

00:22:29.000 I mean, you had the incumbent president Drop out basically under force.

00:22:35.000 You had two assassination attempts to go along with everything else.

00:22:39.000 I wonder if there's a kind of exhaustion that's setting in with the American public just because we've had such a, it's the most insane presidential campaign certainly in my lifetime, maybe in American history, at least in modern American history, I think certainly.

00:22:56.000 Is there a certain amount of exhaustion that sets in?

00:22:58.000 And then what effect does that have come election day?

00:23:02.000 Who does that... If people start kind of tuning it out because it's just too much, who does that help?

00:23:08.000 I'm not exactly sure.

00:23:12.000 Well, you know, it's wild is that after Trump was shot in the side of the head, grazed the

00:23:16.000 side of his head, everybody said Trump just won the election.

00:23:19.000 Yeah, I said the same thing.

00:23:21.000 What?

00:23:22.000 Now everyone's saying Kamala just won the election.

00:23:25.000 The debate was bad.

00:23:26.000 It's like the assassination attempt never even happened.

00:23:27.000 Yeah.

00:23:28.000 Two of them.

00:23:29.000 Well, they just created a new election by swapping her out. 1.00

00:23:31.000 Right.

00:23:32.000 I mean, they were saying not only was Trump ahead, but also on top of his his crushing

00:23:37.000 performance in the debate against Joe Biden, who basically just powered down in front of

00:23:40.000 us, this assassination attempt and his response to it was so powerful.

00:23:45.000 And so they were just like, OK, we've changed our minds.

00:23:47.000 New characters, swap them in.

00:23:48.000 And I tend to agree with you.

00:23:49.000 I think there is an exhaustion among Americans.

00:23:52.000 I think that there is an oversaturation of politics.

00:23:55.000 But also, I think Democrats have now run their fourth anti-Trump campaign.

00:23:58.000 They don't really have candidates that people are rallying around.

00:24:01.000 I actually think Hillary Clinton was the one who had the most sort of star power. 0.96

00:24:05.000 And then they put in Joe Biden and there was a second Joe Biden campaign and now there's the Harris campaign.

00:24:10.000 And the theme is always like, not like we have the best candidates and they will really represent you.

00:24:14.000 It's you cannot elect Donald Trump.

00:24:16.000 He's a danger to everything at all times.

00:24:18.000 Yeah.

00:24:18.000 I mean, I talk about this all the time.

00:24:22.000 The probably the most salient, the most important political fact in America right now is that nothing matters for more than 48 hours.

00:24:32.000 If anything happened more than two days ago, it basically doesn't matter.

00:24:36.000 And I don't even know, how do you run a campaign in this environment with this kind of ADHD

00:24:42.000 and there's a million things happening and no one pays attention and an assassination

00:24:45.000 attempt can happen and it has no political impact?

00:24:47.000 It doesn't even affect the polls.

00:24:49.000 I'm not sure how you run a political campaign in that environment.

00:24:51.000 There's this idea that...

00:24:52.000 My bad.

00:24:53.000 I was confused because you were talking about it.

00:24:56.000 You heard my voice.

00:24:57.000 I thought I was having a stroke.

00:25:02.000 So really what it means is that by the time we get to election day, it's impossible to predict because we kind of have to know what happens that week because that's probably going to be what determines it.

00:25:10.000 So do you think that's when, you know, the Harris-Wallace campaign will release whatever serious bomb they have hiding?

00:25:15.000 Is that what the Trump campaign is going to ramp up?

00:25:18.000 I don't think so either.

00:25:19.000 At this point, we know everything about Trump that there is to know.

00:25:23.000 They've been trying to destroy his life for 10 years now.

00:25:28.000 Trump is remarkably uncorrupt.

00:25:34.000 Because you would think you take any politician, especially anyone who's been to the level that Trump has, and you pour through their life for years at a time looking for anything you can to destroy them.

00:25:45.000 You would think you'd be able to find a lot worse than they've been able to find on Trump.

00:25:49.000 And I think whatever there is on Trump, it's out there.

00:25:51.000 It's been out there.

00:25:52.000 It's known.

00:25:52.000 It's baked in.

00:25:54.000 So it's hard for me to imagine they have any kind of October surprise up their sleeve.

00:25:58.000 I mean, I certainly think they'll try something.

00:26:02.000 Yeah, with two assassination attempts, with Joe Biden dropping out, with the Teamsters now overwhelmingly supporting Trump, I cannot fathom what we would see.

00:26:13.000 I wouldn't be surprised if aliens showed up or something.

00:26:15.000 I have no idea.

00:26:16.000 We can only hope.

00:26:17.000 We can only hope.

00:26:18.000 That's my dream.

00:26:19.000 We need to get a soap opera writer to come on and be like, we know, somebody's going to have an evil twin and they're going to appear.

00:26:25.000 You're big on UFOs, right?

00:26:27.000 Yeah, we can talk about that if you want.

00:26:28.000 I mean, if you want to start that conversation.

00:26:30.000 I wish Shane was here, because he's our UFO guy.

00:26:32.000 He knows everything.

00:26:33.000 But we'll have to save that conversation for, you know, maybe when the aliens come.

00:26:38.000 In October?

00:26:39.000 Are you pro or anti?

00:26:41.000 Well, pro and anti what?

00:26:43.000 Do I believe in aliens?

00:26:44.000 Yeah, that they exist.

00:26:45.000 God's side project?

00:26:46.000 That they exist.

00:26:47.000 That's an American Dad joke, so I stole that one.

00:26:51.000 I think it's plausible.

00:26:55.000 I would say that I think it is likely they do.

00:26:59.000 That aliens do exist.

00:27:00.000 But, you know, no.

00:27:02.000 Don't.

00:27:03.000 I think it's silly to say, absolutely not, they don't.

00:27:05.000 I think it's silly because just, there's no, you gotta do the experiments, you gotta have the evidence.

00:27:09.000 I think based on the evidence, it suggests there's a possibility of it.

00:27:13.000 You think aliens are here and they're doing stuff?

00:27:13.000 But I don't know.

00:27:15.000 Well, I don't know if they're here, but I think it's almost a mathematical certainty that they exist.

00:27:19.000 Right, I agree.

00:27:20.000 But wouldn't that just be, you know, like I was saying, God's side project, or how would that play into things?

00:27:25.000 Well, I don't know if I, well, that's the thing, we can't exactly know how it factors into God's grand design, but We are mere mortals after all.

00:27:33.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:27:34.000 No matter what, there's so much in the universe that we cannot even possibly comprehend.

00:27:37.000 Well, I'll say this, with as insane as this political cycle has been, you get everyone making the joke, they were making it last year, they're making it this year, that the writers of this new season of reality have run out of things to write about.

00:27:51.000 The joke being that life has become so absurd that certainly we are in a simulation or some kind of TV show entertainment for somebody.

00:28:01.000 Uh, yeah, yeah.

00:28:02.000 I mean, and also it's made people so, that's kind of what I was saying before, it's made people so jaded that they're just kind of bored with it all and not able to pay attention to any of it.

00:28:13.000 There are a lot of people who will be watching a show for years, but they'll be like, oh, but that fifth season just kind of went off the rails, so I stopped watching.

00:28:19.000 I mean, that is sort of what I think might be happening to the American voting population.

00:28:24.000 They know Trump.

00:28:25.000 They know you hate him.

00:28:26.000 You're not giving them enough on Kamala Harris, and now there are too many side plots that they just don't want to follow.

00:28:31.000 There's a key demographic for Harris really siding with her that we haven't talked about, and that's white dudes.

00:28:37.000 A lot of them.

00:28:40.000 I know.

00:28:41.000 Big number.

00:28:43.000 There's a dozen of them.

00:28:44.000 I could fill most of a conference room.

00:28:46.000 Yes!

00:28:48.000 Actually, didn't they have like 100,000 people on their Zoom call or something?

00:28:52.000 Allegedly.

00:28:53.000 But how many of them were actually white dudes is the question.

00:28:55.000 I think that was mostly white women. 1.00

00:28:55.000 Right? 1.00

00:28:57.000 There's something about calling themselves dudes instead of men.

00:29:01.000 It's very emasculating.

00:29:03.000 They don't have any self-respect.

00:29:04.000 They don't care.

00:29:05.000 It's very telling about how they see themselves.

00:29:07.000 There was this viral tweet recently, Matt, I don't know if you saw, where there was an NPR interview and some of the guys were talking about they got their testosterone levels checked and one guy's testosterone was 114.

00:29:18.000 Anybody who knows anything about that, that person is ill.

00:29:22.000 What is it supposed to be?

00:29:23.000 Well, I mean, should be.

00:29:25.000 They say between three- What's the average?

00:29:29.000 I think the average is like five to six hundred, maybe?

00:29:32.000 And low end, that's considered healthy, but kind of alarming.

00:29:36.000 They say it's around like three.

00:29:37.000 And very healthy and very, you know, a thousand.

00:29:40.000 You know, I forgot what it's like, you know, NG, whatever, I don't know what the actual term is.

00:29:45.000 But really, you want to be, you want to be high.

00:29:48.000 Like, if you're a guy, you want, I don't know, 800?

00:29:51.000 You want 1000?

00:29:52.000 You want a high testosterone?

00:29:53.000 High now is like average 50 years ago. 0.99

00:29:56.000 Oh yeah, it's ridiculous.

00:29:58.000 50 years ago, people had super high testosterone levels.

00:30:00.000 Now you've got, unsurprisingly, a host at NPR being like, I got my testosterone checked.

00:30:06.000 It was 114.

00:30:07.000 And you're like... Why would you say that publicly?

00:30:11.000 It's a very low-T move to announce you're low-T.

00:30:14.000 There you go!

00:30:15.000 It's kind of terrifying.

00:30:16.000 They call themselves white dudes, as like a diminutive term.

00:30:20.000 I'm just a little white dude.

00:30:22.000 Right, because saying white men, it's almost too strong a term for them, so they don't want to say that.

00:30:28.000 They just put out, did you see the ad they just put out today?

00:30:30.000 The white dudes for Harris?

00:30:31.000 They put an ad out?

00:30:32.000 Yeah they did, they just put it out today.

00:30:34.000 Do I pull it up?

00:30:35.000 I think you should, because of course it's unintentionally hilarious.

00:30:39.000 Alright, let's see if we can find it.

00:30:41.000 I retweeted it, I don't know, or you could probably just search for it.

00:30:44.000 I think it's crazy how much Kamala Harris wants the white vote. 1.00

00:30:48.000 Is it proud to unveil the first ad from white dudes for Harris?

00:30:52.000 Oh man, you're making me do it.

00:30:54.000 Alright, alright.

00:30:56.000 Here we go.

00:30:57.000 We got this tweet from White Dudes for Harris.

00:30:59.000 Proud to unveil the very first ad from White Dudes for Harris.

00:31:02.000 We're coming together to support Kamala Harris, focusing directly on talking to white dudes about our role in this election.

00:31:08.000 This is just the beginning.

00:31:09.000 We're showing up, speaking out, and standing for what matters.

00:31:13.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:31:14.000 I have to unmute this because I really didn't want to.

00:31:17.000 Hey, white dudes. 0.99

00:31:19.000 So I think we're all pretty sick of hearing how much we suck. 1.00

00:31:22.000 Every time you go online, it's the same story. 0.99

00:31:24.000 We're the problem. 0.98

00:31:25.000 And yeah, some white dudes are. 1.00

00:31:28.000 Trump and all his MAGA buddies are out there making it worse, shouting nonsense in their stupid red hats and acting like they speak for us when they don't. 1.00

00:31:37.000 All they've ever done is screw us over. 1.00

00:31:39.000 But if you're not on the MAGA train, where do you go? 0.92

00:31:42.000 Isn't it just swapping out one crappy option for another?

00:31:45.000 Then it hit me.

00:31:46.000 This isn't about picking teams.

00:31:48.000 It's about who's got a plan that's gonna make life better for me and my family.

00:31:52.000 So I've been doing my own research and decided to check out Kamala Harris and Tim Walls.

00:31:57.000 And before you jump down my throat, they're actually talking to guys like us.

00:32:01.000 No lectures, no BS.

00:32:03.000 Just real solutions that protect our freedoms and help us take care of the people who matter.

00:32:09.000 Honestly, I think Harrison Walls are the ones to make that happen.

00:32:13.000 End of the day, you're your own man.

00:32:15.000 It's your call. 0.99

00:32:16.000 But if anyone gives you crap about it, tell them it's none of their damn business. 0.99

00:32:21.000 Well, so that explains why the Teamsters are backing Donald Trump. 1.00

00:32:24.000 I think whoever wrote that commercial has never met a white man.

00:32:26.000 I just don't think they have.

00:32:28.000 It's a commercial for men written by women, you can already tell. 1.00

00:32:33.000 But I don't know, they said damn, they said crap, they said B.S. 1.00

00:32:37.000 No lectures, no B.S., no nagging G.F. 1.00

00:32:40.000 I mean, I feel like if they wanted to make an actual ad, it'd be like, Vote Kamala!

00:32:45.000 That'd be it.

00:32:47.000 Nobody's got time.

00:32:49.000 Cut to the chase.

00:32:50.000 Don't waste my time.

00:32:51.000 Kamala's even married to one of us!

00:32:54.000 It's funny because you said it's written by women.

00:32:57.000 You ever see that comedy bit where a guy says, so a buddy of mine, he's going through a divorce and things have been rough and I guess he's going to get back into dating so we go golfing.

00:33:09.000 When I come home my wife says, so how is he?

00:33:11.000 And I go, I don't know.

00:33:14.000 And she was like, what do you mean?

00:33:15.000 Weren't you golfing together?

00:33:16.000 Yeah.

00:33:17.000 Well, is he seeing somebody?

00:33:18.000 He goes, didn't come up.

00:33:21.000 She's like, you don't know anything about your friend?

00:33:23.000 And he's like, we don't talk about it.

00:33:25.000 Like, that bit was funny to everyone because they know guys aren't going and meeting up and talking about these things.

00:33:32.000 Hey, you know, Kamala Harris, she ain't lecturing guys like me.

00:33:35.000 White dudes like you, we should go vote for her. 1.00

00:33:37.000 They're going to be like, what are you talking about, dude? 0.78

00:33:39.000 The game's on. 1.00

00:33:39.000 Shut up. 1.00

00:33:40.000 Again, the writers room has never met a white man. 1.00

00:33:42.000 They don't know them at all.

00:33:44.000 And the white men that they hang out with are completely compliant to their will.

00:33:46.000 I mean, the thing is, Kamala Harris wants white men to vote for her. 1.00

00:33:49.000 And I know this because they're now courting Mormons in Arizona.

00:33:54.000 Mormons, overwhelmingly white.

00:33:56.000 And they're trying to say, no, she represents your values better than Donald Trump.

00:34:00.000 I just want to point out this ad is paid for by Beige Rainbow Pack.

00:34:04.000 What?

00:34:05.000 What is that?

00:34:06.000 beige rainbow?

00:34:07.000 Hold on. 0.94

00:34:08.000 They're just making fun of white people. 0.84

00:34:10.000 Seriously. 0.93

00:34:11.000 Sounds like a...

00:34:12.000 I mean, to me, the ad sounds like it's in the style of an anti-drug commercial that

00:34:18.000 they would show you in high school that's trying to sound really cool and...

00:34:21.000 Hello, fellow youth.

00:34:22.000 Right, exactly.

00:34:23.000 Or it's...

00:34:24.000 I mean, I don't know if this was made by women, but it's the kind of ad that some liberal 1.00

00:34:29.000 woman will show her boyfriend because she thinks that he'll like it. 0.87

00:34:34.000 kind of thing.

00:34:36.000 But even in an ad that's supposed to appeal to men, you notice that the first 15 seconds are still dumping on men. 1.00

00:34:45.000 They can't even appeal to men without going, well, yeah, look, I mean, some men suck. 0.99

00:34:49.000 Let's just get that out of the way. 0.99

00:34:49.000 We all know that. 0.99

00:34:51.000 Men are terrible.

00:34:52.000 By the way, and then they get into the whole thing, so they can't even appeal to men without dumping them. 1.00

00:34:56.000 I don't know if you could make an effective ad for men in general for Kamala, because she doesn't offer anything substantive to a man. 1.00

00:35:05.000 And let me clarify that, because you may be saying, sure, but what do you mean? 0.89

00:35:07.000 I mean, if I was going to make an ad that was literally about apolitical dudes who are sitting there, they don't want to be bothered, I'd be like, hey, you guys remember when Donald Trump called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig? 0.94

00:35:18.000 And they're gonna laugh, and they're like, that's funny. 0.94

00:35:20.000 And it's like, that's all you need to do.

00:35:22.000 The guys are gonna be sitting around, they're gonna be ribbing on each other, they're joking, they're crude, they're crass.

00:35:26.000 Kamala doesn't have anything that's gonna make a guy laugh. 1.00

00:35:28.000 But also, the problem they run into is that there's just, there is no room in the country where any white men are sitting around talking about how they like Kamala Harris.

00:35:37.000 Like, men will talk about politics. 0.94

00:35:38.000 I talk about politics, you know, all the time.

00:35:40.000 But just, that would never happen.

00:35:41.000 You would never be hanging out with other guys and like, hey, you know, Kamala Harris, she's really, she's...

00:35:46.000 She's presented a great plan, but definitely not.

00:35:49.000 Her rhetoric is all about, like, safety, and I'm safe, and I'm your mama-la, and women will flock to that. 0.77

00:35:56.000 Men don't respond to that. 1.00

00:35:58.000 I think she's pretty intimidated by men.

00:36:00.000 I think it's interesting that she won't sit down.

00:36:01.000 Number one, that she picked Tim Walls, who is soy, as you can get, as her VP, and then every time she tries to, like, say she's doing an interview, it's with female interviewers, and they're always mostly allowing her. 0.70

00:36:14.000 What is her appeal to white guys, by the way? 0.52

00:36:15.000 She's like, well, this guy, like... She clearly understands what appeals to white men.

00:36:19.000 Knows how to eat a turkey leg, but also will put tampons in a men's restroom. 0.95

00:36:23.000 But look at that interview thing she did where she was like, you know, do you eat food?

00:36:28.000 And he's like, I have white guy tacos.

00:36:30.000 And she's like, what's that?

00:36:31.000 And he's like, beef.

00:36:33.000 And she's like, what is that, tuna and mayonnaise? 1.00

00:36:34.000 And he's like, beef with cheese?

00:36:36.000 She's like, do you season it?

00:36:37.000 No.

00:36:38.000 Like, is that supposed to be endearing to white guys? 1.00

00:36:41.000 I don't season my tacos because I'm a stupid white guy. 1.00

00:36:44.000 Well, that's the whole claim. 1.00

00:36:45.000 This is a side thing, but the claim that white people don't season their food.

00:36:48.000 It's like, speak for yourself.

00:36:52.000 Matt, are you familiar with the East India Trading Company?

00:36:57.000 Yes.

00:36:58.000 White people massacred hundreds of thousands to season their food. 0.98

00:37:03.000 You're crazy about spices. 0.99

00:37:04.000 Yeah, seriously.

00:37:05.000 We literally will kill for our spices.

00:37:07.000 That's how much we like them.

00:37:08.000 Black peppercorn was like the most valuable substance.

00:37:11.000 And now he's like, I put pepper on it.

00:37:12.000 It's like, okay, it's a start.

00:37:14.000 But we all know the funny thing is he was lying because he actually had some award-winning casserole recipe with cayenne and garlic.

00:37:21.000 That's a really good, you know, that's, I never, that's a good point. 0.99

00:37:23.000 We fought and died for spices, damn it. 0.97

00:37:25.000 And now you're trying to take spices away from us? 0.99

00:37:29.000 This is part of the lie that they engage in, you know, these woke, anti-racist, all these people you know very well play this game where, you know, it was only like seven years ago, a big talking point was that white people have no culture.

00:37:44.000 This was a huge thing they were saying. 0.78

00:37:45.000 They were saying, no, no, white people have no culture. 0.96

00:37:47.000 This is culture. 0.91

00:37:47.000 And they'd point to, you know, other ethnic groups. 0.91

00:37:49.000 And then it's just like, what are you talking about?

00:37:51.000 There's like, there's a whole bunch of cultures from people who are white.

00:37:55.000 What is that supposed to mean?

00:37:56.000 And they play this game where they say, white doesn't mean the color of your skin.

00:37:59.000 It doesn't mean you're of certain European countries.

00:38:00.000 It means you're the dominant social group, which is to imply that Chinese people are white in China?

00:38:07.000 That's the argument they make.

00:38:09.000 And I'll give you a funny one on this.

00:38:10.000 We had a running gag on this show when Luke Rutkowski was a recurring co-host.

00:38:16.000 Luke Rutkowski has blonde hair and blue eyes.

00:38:18.000 He's Polish.

00:38:19.000 And according to an organization called the Coalition for Communities of Color, Polish people are people of color.

00:38:25.000 So I'm sitting here, part Asian, and I don't count.

00:38:29.000 I am not a person of color, and blond-haired, blue-eyed white dude is a person of color.

00:38:33.000 That's their logic.

00:38:34.000 I agree with the sentiment that, you know, there's no such thing as white culture because it's just so broad and so absurd. 0.92

00:38:39.000 Like, there's certainly such thing as an American culture, and that's something I participate in.

00:38:42.000 There's something as, you know, German culture, Swedish culture, Nordic culture in general.

00:38:47.000 But to just paint Europe and the West with a broad brush and be like, well, you know, you whiteys have your own thing. 0.94

00:38:54.000 Sure, when you guys have not nearly as much in common with, you know, the average German walking around as you do. 0.97

00:39:00.000 But I think it's needlessly reductive.

00:39:05.000 There are white people who have certain cultural elements.

00:39:09.000 When you come from Europe, there are certain things that are broadly shared, and there are certain things that are not.

00:39:15.000 And it's just like, you can make the point you made.

00:39:17.000 I think it's a point that, well, you can identify German culture, but I don't see, I don't know why they're so mad about saying, you know, trying to make that a point.

00:39:26.000 I think...

00:39:28.000 It's like you but you can't have it both ways I think that's because they try to have it both ways because they'll say well there's no such thing as white culture and then they'll give an answer much like what what you said that well yeah you break it I mean you'd break it down by where did you come from and yeah there's an Irish culture there's a um and okay but then It's the same thing for black because black is not, you know, there's how many different countries could you come from to qualify as black according to our standards? 0.62

00:39:53.000 I agree with this, you know, I was born in Ethiopia, you know, there is this Ethiopian cultural identity. 0.97

00:40:00.000 And that is separate from, you know, I don't know what the hell black culture is besides a ridiculously degrading and 1.00

00:40:05.000 reductive thing to say. 0.97

00:40:06.000 But like, oh, well, I guess you're good at dancing and basketball.

00:40:09.000 Playing the bass.

00:40:10.000 Yeah, yeah, which, you know, I've tried my hand in.

00:40:13.000 Are you good at basketball?

00:40:14.000 No, I'm terrible.

00:40:15.000 Okay.

00:40:15.000 But the woke, these individuals claim there is black culture.

00:40:21.000 It's paradoxical. 0.99

00:40:21.000 It's hypocritical. 0.99

00:40:23.000 So if we were going to say, well, okay, we're not talking about black culture. 0.98

00:40:26.000 We're not talking about white culture.

00:40:27.000 We're going to be more specific so that the word culture has more meaning.

00:40:33.000 That's a consistent viewpoint.

00:40:36.000 But when it's kind of inconsistent and we're just like taking a whole swath of people and say, well, they don't have culture at all.

00:40:41.000 Uh, that's, that's where it becomes an issue.

00:40:44.000 Although I will say just to bring it back to the white dudes for Harris. 0.94

00:40:47.000 And I made this point before that the way that they're appealing to white dudes, calling them white dudes, all of it, it's very silly. 0.99

00:40:53.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:40:54.000 I don't think it's going to work. 0.97

00:40:56.000 Uh, I think it's, it's laughable.

00:40:58.000 Uh, but it is still striking that.

00:41:01.000 That still, the Democrats are making an explicit, deliberate play for the white male vote.

00:41:10.000 Meanwhile, Republicans, on the other hand, they would just never do that.

00:41:14.000 They're not going to ever acknowledge white males as a distinct group or category.

00:41:19.000 Because they're scared of being called racist or because they don't think it's worth their time because the votes are already coming in?

00:41:24.000 I think both.

00:41:24.000 I think it's both, but it's mainly the first thing.

00:41:29.000 But they will say, I mean you'll hear from any Republican, well here's how we're going to help black Americans, here's how we're going to help women, here's how we're going to help Asians.

00:41:37.000 They'll say all that and that's fine, but then there's this whole other category, well we're not going to specifically talk about how we're going to help those people, and it's just interesting that the Democrats are the only ones doing that right now.

00:41:49.000 Of course they're doing it in a really insulting way.

00:41:51.000 And it's not that it wouldn't be smart for Republicans to do it, but the general point is just stop doing it.

00:41:56.000 It's a really reductive way to just view this country and the complementary aspect of the most beneficial aspect of this country.

00:42:03.000 But the Harris-Walls campaign is completely bent on identifying to people based on race.

00:42:07.000 I mean, that's the reason she's appearing at the Hispanic conference today. 1.00

00:42:11.000 She's talking to black journalists specifically.

00:42:14.000 She's attending black sorority functions. 1.00

00:42:15.000 I mean, she is obviously acknowledging that the Democratic organizers that are behind her see our country through the lens of race exclusively, which is interesting because they're also arguing they're the most unifying party.

00:42:28.000 Well, she's also mentioning the debate that, you know, Republicans need to get off of this whole race business.

00:42:33.000 Meanwhile, I will only talk to you if you're circled up by race. 0.63

00:42:38.000 I don't know about who's going to win.

00:42:39.000 There's predictions.

00:42:40.000 They go crazy.

00:42:41.000 Everybody thinks they know.

00:42:42.000 But I do think that we should heed the warning of the left on this one.

00:42:47.000 And that is that this country is inherently sexist.

00:42:51.000 You know, they say it's racist, too, but we'll talk about that in a second.

00:42:55.000 I brought up a while ago that I believe there's a component of the United States population that will not vote for a woman president.

00:43:03.000 It's not just conservatives.

00:43:05.000 Mary says her.

00:43:06.000 But I believe there's Democrat men who are probably in their 60s who are like, I ain't voting for a woman. 0.99

00:43:10.000 And they're Democrats.

00:43:11.000 But they just wouldn't do it.

00:43:12.000 They don't say it.

00:43:12.000 They don't even say it to themselves.

00:43:14.000 But they feel it subconsciously.

00:43:16.000 I mean, they'll say it in private.

00:43:17.000 They'll say it when no one's around.

00:43:19.000 I tell you, I was sitting at a wing place the other day and there was a couple of construction worker guys and the things they were saying, you know, they would never say in a larger public context.

00:43:29.000 But these guys were voting for Trump, the stuff they were saying.

00:43:32.000 They were talking about capital punishment and how to get this country right.

00:43:34.000 And I'm like, I know exactly who they're voting for.

00:43:36.000 But there are a bunch of Democrats who are probably older.

00:43:39.000 and don't want to vote for a woman.

00:43:41.000 I brought this up, and these liberals called me sexist for saying it.

00:43:44.000 And I'm like, how am I sexist?

00:43:45.000 I'm saying I agree with you, liberal, that there is a component to some degree in this country that will not vote for her.

00:43:52.000 And here's what I wonder, if she's up in the polls by a point or two, but she could lose a point or two because there are a lot of men and women who will not vote for a woman because she is a woman, that's the liberal talking point on inherent sexism. 0.98

00:44:05.000 How am I wrong?

00:44:08.000 I mean, I don't know that I buy that that's true.

00:44:12.000 I don't think that that many people have, especially on the left, have a compunction about voting for a woman.

00:44:20.000 I don't know.

00:44:21.000 I'm saying that there are older people who are going to be like, I don't want to vote for a woman. 1.00

00:44:26.000 And that number is probably significant enough.

00:44:28.000 I'm not saying it's going to be 10%.

00:44:29.000 Would you vote for a female Trump?

00:44:31.000 Oh yeah.

00:44:32.000 Yeah.

00:44:33.000 I remember there was some psychological experiment done around the 2016 election where they scripted a debate between a female Trump character, it wasn't said explicitly, and a male Hillary, and most of the respondents said they would vote for the female.

00:44:50.000 Yep.

00:44:51.000 Based on her rhetoric.

00:44:52.000 So it was NYU.

00:44:54.000 There was this theory that Hillary lost because she's a woman and people are sexist. 1.00

00:44:58.000 So they said, let's do the debate, same lines, performed perfectly by two actors, but the Trump is a woman and the Hillary is a man.

00:45:07.000 And the end result was that people thought Hillary was a guy.

00:45:10.000 It was a guy with glasses and it was a woman in a red dress.

00:45:13.000 And they said, that guy is too snooty and condescending.

00:45:16.000 The woman was passionate and wanted to help us. 0.99

00:45:17.000 But a woman would never talk like Trump. 0.90

00:45:20.000 That would never happen.

00:45:21.000 We were talking about that on the drive up here because we were talking about the Australian office and how they gender swapped Dwight.

00:45:29.000 Yeah, it was awful.

00:45:31.000 They gender swapped Michael, they gender swapped Dwight.

00:45:34.000 Really?

00:45:35.000 Matt made the astute observation that a female Dwight doesn't exist. 1.00

00:45:38.000 No.

00:45:39.000 Like it just doesn't work.

00:45:40.000 And I think that's the same with a female Trump. 0.79

00:45:42.000 I just can't picture.

00:45:43.000 I also think there's no other male Trump.

00:45:45.000 I mean, Trump is really unique in a lot of ways.

00:45:47.000 There are other people who share his maybe values or ideas or, you know, interests politically, but you couldn't recreate Trump.

00:45:54.000 I think it's a mistake to try regardless of gender. 0.99

00:45:57.000 Yeah, he's a very unique guy, but you can even look at a lot of his personality traits and you can say, oh yeah, I know guys that are kind of like that, kind of like that.

00:46:05.000 But you can't do that.

00:46:07.000 I don't know any woman who's anything like Trump.

00:46:11.000 Well, let's do this.

00:46:11.000 We're going to jump to this next segment here.

00:46:14.000 From Rotten Tomatoes, we have Breaking News.

00:46:17.000 Am I racist?

00:46:18.000 Officially has a red tomato.

00:46:20.000 Congratulations, Matt.

00:46:21.000 Thank you.

00:46:22.000 You were certified gray, but now you are certified red tomato.

00:46:24.000 It's not fresh.

00:46:25.000 They didn't give you the fresh rating?

00:46:27.000 Is that what it is?

00:46:27.000 Well it is fresh.

00:46:28.000 It's not certified fresh because we don't have enough ratings and we'll never have enough ratings because the mainstream critics are completely ignoring this film like it doesn't exist.

00:46:36.000 Isn't it true that you guys had sent a link for the preview or like to review the movie early to a left-wing critic?

00:46:44.000 He wrote a critical review but then you saw that he had never actually watched it?

00:46:47.000 That's what someone told me.

00:46:49.000 Yes, that happened with, I believe, the first film, What is a Woman.

00:46:54.000 I don't remember who it was, but somebody reviewed it and we could tell in the link that they didn't watch.

00:46:57.000 But he authored a completely scathing review.

00:47:00.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:47:01.000 And on this one, we sent it out for critics to screen weeks ahead of time, as you do when you're When you have a film and you're proud of it, you think it'll get good reviews.

00:47:13.000 Or at least it deserves good reviews.

00:47:15.000 And we sent it out and we got a whole bunch of responses from a lot of independent critics who basically told us to F off and they've got no interest.

00:47:21.000 They would never review a movie by Matt Walsh.

00:47:23.000 You're independent of them.

00:47:25.000 Right.

00:47:27.000 And then the mainstream critics, we actually had a few that Rolling Stone, for example, asked for a screen or we gave it to them and expressed some interest in reviewing it, never published a review.

00:47:36.000 There were a couple other mainstream critics that seemed like they were interested in reviewing it, never published a review.

00:47:43.000 And, you know, I'm biased, of course, in my feeling on this, but I have been wondering, like, well, Why wouldn't they just publish a review and rip it apart, and pan it, and say that it's terrible?

00:47:55.000 That's what they usually do with, you know, quote-unquote conservative movies.

00:47:59.000 They could easily do that here.

00:48:00.000 The Rolling Stone publishes stuff about me all the time, talking about what a terrible guy I am.

00:48:04.000 So you'd think they'd love to do that about this movie, and they haven't yet.

00:48:08.000 And I think that part of the reason for that—well, there's two reasons.

00:48:11.000 is that the movie calls attention to something that I think they just don't want to talk about, which is the DEI grift.

00:48:17.000 And two, it's a good movie.

00:48:20.000 And if they were to give any kind of honest review, any kind of credible review, I'm not saying they'd have to give it four stars, but they'd have to at least give it some credit.

00:48:30.000 They wouldn't be able to claim that it's just a total artistic disaster.

00:48:35.000 But then they also know that if they were to publish a review, Even if it was like, one and a half stars, this is a bad movie, but you know, it's got this and this going for it.

00:48:45.000 It was kind of funny, I laughed.

00:48:47.000 If they were to say even that much, their readership would revolt.

00:48:53.000 It would be a mutiny.

00:48:54.000 And so that's why they're just ignoring it, I think.

00:48:56.000 Do you think any reviewers sent their editors a moderate review, like you're saying, some negative, some positive, and the person got it and was like, I just can't run this.

00:49:06.000 I have no idea.

00:49:08.000 It would not surprise me at all.

00:49:09.000 I mean, we know what happened.

00:49:10.000 We have had a couple of well-known reviewers who are not mainstream because they don't work for mainstream publications, but we had some of these YouTube reviewers.

00:49:17.000 Jeremy Johns is a big one, and he published a review, which we really appreciate.

00:49:21.000 It was a positive review, and he's got millions of subscribers.

00:49:24.000 And yeah, and then the left spent several days on Twitter attacking this guy and calling him racist.

00:49:31.000 For watching, not even, it was like, not even for liking the movie.

00:49:35.000 It's just the simple fact that he watched it and said anything about it made him racist automatically.

00:49:39.000 And I think a lot of these other reviewers are looking at that and they're like, I don't want any part of that.

00:49:43.000 Yeah, so you ended up with, you've got ten reviews, you've got over a thousand audience verified ratings, giving it a 98% verified hot.

00:49:52.000 I give the film, my review is 10 out of 10, and I think it is fair to call it a masterpiece.

00:49:57.000 And what I mean by that is not some empty platitude of, this thing is so good I call it a masterpiece.

00:50:02.000 What I mean is, in terms of what you are trying to accomplish with the film, at least as far as I see it, the film is produced perfectly.

00:50:09.000 I have no notes.

00:50:11.000 There's no point in the film where I said they should have done this, they should have done that.

00:50:14.000 I understood it.

00:50:15.000 I thought it got its message across.

00:50:17.000 I thought it was hilarious.

00:50:18.000 I was in a packed theater.

00:50:19.000 So just everything about what you set out to do, I think you guys accomplished.

00:50:22.000 That's why I say it's a masterpiece.

00:50:23.000 It is a work where you've hit all of the points.

00:50:27.000 I'm in a D.C.

00:50:28.000 theater.

00:50:29.000 I'm in Washington, D.C.

00:50:30.000 Just outside of D.C.

00:50:31.000 to be fair.

00:50:32.000 It's packed, about 90% packed, to the point where you're not going to buy a ticket in this theater because you're going to be like splitting up from your group and one person, you know, you're going to be in that one seat in between two groups of people.

00:50:42.000 So the whole theater is laughing their ass off the entire time.

00:50:46.000 I'm in one of the front rows because it was hard to actually get good seats and just laughing endlessly.

00:50:52.000 And I'm like, this is a comedy film.

00:50:53.000 It's not overtly political.

00:50:54.000 It nailed it.

00:50:55.000 So anyway, back to the point.

00:50:58.000 98% of people agree.

00:51:00.000 Over 1,000 ratings, they come to Rotten Tomatoes, they review it.

00:51:03.000 For a while, Rotten Tomatoes seemed to have been intentionally censoring the reviews you did have that were all good.

00:51:10.000 There were five good reviews from big names, and it said zero.

00:51:14.000 And then it went to seven and eight good reviews, and it said zero.

00:51:18.000 And only when they get two negative ratings do they now put the view all in there and give the score and put it at 80%, which is still good.

00:51:26.000 Yeah, I noticed the same thing.

00:51:27.000 I noticed exactly the same thing.

00:51:28.000 It wasn't until they got, yeah, they had to get a couple of the bad ones in there, and so you could see that you're featuring the bad ones nice and prominently there.

00:51:35.000 Yep, Jesse Gender. 0.97

00:51:36.000 Yeah, we got some, Jesse Gender, the trans, wherever.

00:51:39.000 Where's my review on this one?

00:51:41.000 Do I have to submit it?

00:51:41.000 Because I did a 20-minute video, it's got half a million views, where I said it's a great film, here's why, here's what I think is great about it.

00:51:48.000 How come my YouTube video is not listed in a review on this as a positive one?

00:51:52.000 Well, that's a good question.

00:51:53.000 I don't know.

00:51:54.000 They selectively chose a YouTuber who didn't like you to put in there to claim that your film was no good.

00:51:59.000 Yeah.

00:51:59.000 And it is absurd, especially when it's someone that you know, like there's no chance in hell that that person would give us anything but a bad review.

00:52:07.000 But it's fine.

00:52:08.000 You know, I mean, I would have no, I have no complaints about them.

00:52:10.000 Just, just, this is, this is my point.

00:52:12.000 Just catalog all the reviews, good and bad.

00:52:14.000 And that's what, that's what you should be doing.

00:52:16.000 Jesse Gender said that there's no call to action at the end of Am I Racist?

00:52:21.000 So what would you say to that?

00:52:23.000 Was there a call to action?

00:52:24.000 Is that incorrect?

00:52:26.000 Uh, I think that there is, but also I take issue with the kind of the premise there that I don't know that a movie has to have a call to action exactly.

00:52:36.000 And that's one of the things that some of the, you know, we've gotten a lot of good reaction from the audience, which I appreciate.

00:52:41.000 I have seen some of the criticism and some of it, you know, some of it I think is valid.

00:52:44.000 It's not like any movie you could criticize.

00:52:47.000 Some of the criticism, even from the right, some of the criticism we've gotten, it's from people that don't seem to understand what a movie is supposed to do.

00:52:53.000 And also don't seem to understand that we are, that this is supposed to be a comedy.

00:52:56.000 Yeah.

00:52:57.000 Um, so I've gotten, for example, I've gotten the, every once in a while I've heard feedback from people saying, um, well, you know, during that race to dinner scene, uh, you know, it was good and you were exposing the crazy things they were saying, but I didn't like how you were, you were interrupting too much.

00:53:12.000 It's like, well, but it's funny.

00:53:13.000 That's why we did it.

00:53:14.000 I mean, it's a comedy also.

00:53:17.000 Like you're trying to put butter on and they're trying to shoo you away.

00:53:19.000 Right.

00:53:19.000 And you just ignore them and do it anyway.

00:53:21.000 It's a comedy film.

00:53:22.000 Right.

00:53:22.000 Because the basic criticism there is someone saying, basically, you should have made a different kind of movie than the one you made.

00:53:29.000 And that's, you can't, that's not a valid criticism.

00:53:32.000 That's like watching, you know, Die Hard and saying there should have been a lot more comedy in it.

00:53:38.000 It's like, that's not what, It's a different kind of movie.

00:53:41.000 You have to judge the movie based on what it's trying to accomplish, which I appreciate.

00:53:45.000 The mistakes made by so many of these right-wing culture warriors who are well-intentioned and want to make culture is that they make things overtly political.

00:53:55.000 Yeah.

00:53:56.000 And, you know, I can even point to The Daily Wire and say why this one is so good.

00:54:00.000 The criticisms I heard of Lady Ballers was that it was overtly preachy, that it was actually telling you the point of the film, whereas Am I Racist is a funny film.

00:54:10.000 I mean, it's slapstick.

00:54:13.000 I don't want to give away too much, but I think this is in the trailer, like, you drop a plate.

00:54:13.000 You know?

00:54:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:54:18.000 It's not a political message.

00:54:20.000 It's not you saying, hey, look, what they're doing is bad.

00:54:23.000 It's you exploring this world and doing comedy.

00:54:28.000 Interrupting somebody, asking them a question.

00:54:31.000 You know, the opening scene where you're in this big group of people and you keep trying to talk and then you're like, I was going to say that.

00:54:38.000 That's what I was going to say.

00:54:39.000 Like, it's just jokes.

00:54:41.000 And so what you get out of that, the reason why it's substantially more effective politically by not being overtly political, is that if I tell somebody I know who doesn't like politics to go see it as a comedy film, they're going to laugh at you tripping and falling.

00:54:54.000 They're going to laugh at you trying to put the butter on the plate when the person's telling you not to. 0.95

00:54:57.000 And the butt of the joke is, hey, look how silly these people are. 0.62

00:55:01.000 So the impression that people get from it is, Matt is a funny guy. 0.96

00:55:05.000 Ha ha, he played a prank.

00:55:06.000 He's so funny. 1.00

00:55:07.000 Those people looked so dumb. 0.99

00:55:09.000 There's nothing else beyond that that you need to understand. 1.00

00:55:11.000 Politically, you don't need to go to someone and say, I'd like to teach you about why critical race theory is wrong.

00:55:15.000 See, back in 1984, with Kimberly Crenshaw, it's like, no, no, no, no, you don't need any of that.

00:55:19.000 That's for podcasts.

00:55:21.000 That's for high-level, esoteric political conversations.

00:55:24.000 A comedy movie need-only show.

00:55:25.000 Matt Walsh slip on a banana peel.

00:55:30.000 The message cannot come before the story, and in this case, the comedy, if it's a comedy.

00:55:37.000 And this is a mistake that, it's a mistake that kind of, you know, you look at like Christian movies historically for the last 20 or 30 years, and there have been some good ones. 0.83

00:55:45.000 I'm not, I'm not trying to, you know, write them all off, but...

00:55:49.000 One of the major problems with Christian films for so long is that the message was obviously the first priority.

00:55:56.000 And so they said to themselves, well, we got the message down.

00:55:58.000 That's all that matters.

00:56:00.000 This is all very nice.

00:56:01.000 It's the right message.

00:56:01.000 It's biblical.

00:56:04.000 And so then the script and the writing and the acting and all that, the production value doesn't matter as much.

00:56:09.000 But the problem with that is that you end up with a bad movie.

00:56:12.000 And when you have a bad movie, then you also don't get the message across as well as you want to, because people aren't watching the movie.

00:56:17.000 The only people that are going to watch the movie are the ones who are only there for the message.

00:56:20.000 And those are exactly the people who don't need to hear the message because that's what they're there for.

00:56:24.000 So you have to, it's like in a way, and it's a little bit, especially when you're, when you do have a message you want to get across, it feels a little bit, especially for me, it feels a little counterintuitive, but you have to kind of let the message take a back seat.

00:56:39.000 So that, ultimately, it'll do a better job of communicating the message.

00:56:42.000 100%.

00:56:42.000 There's that show, New Norm.

00:56:44.000 We've talked about it quite a bit.

00:56:45.000 It got, I don't know, 40 million views, but everyone ragged on it.

00:56:49.000 It was like the South Park of X. And the jokes were all directly on the nose.

00:56:55.000 I'm a woke person.

00:56:56.000 Look how woke I am.

00:56:57.000 And it's like, okay, we get it.

00:56:59.000 My response to that was, you want to do a sitcom that makes the butt of the jokes wokeness and marginalizes woke ideology.

00:57:07.000 It's a regular family.

00:57:09.000 They have regular problems.

00:57:10.000 The teenage daughter is going on a date with a boy for the first time and her dress gets a stain on it.

00:57:15.000 That kind of silly sitcom stuff. 0.98

00:57:16.000 And the neighbor who constantly comes over to bring over cupcakes or whatever is this fat, woke, purple-haired woman. 1.00

00:57:23.000 And the family rolls their eyes. 0.96

00:57:24.000 They're friends with her.

00:57:25.000 They like her.

00:57:26.000 She's the neighbor, but she's so woke.

00:57:29.000 And you you otherize it.

00:57:30.000 So you give it a backseat and you let the jokes exist as normal jokes that are that are relatable to the average person.

00:57:37.000 And then you otherize the negative thing and make it the butt of the joke.

00:57:40.000 I think people are turned off when it's too heavy handed.

00:57:43.000 Like when you're saying Christian movies are just sort of like, this is the message and that's all we're going to focus on, it takes away the subtlety.

00:57:49.000 And I think so much of, similar to political exhaustion, so much of what people are looking for is to consume media without it being the message or the point being shoved down their throats.

00:58:00.000 They want to be having an intellectual or emotional experience with it and if you're just saying, and now you feel sad and now you feel happy and that's good and that's bad, it's not really anything that people want to subject themselves to.

00:58:13.000 Conservative entertainment can sometimes fall into, and New Norm is probably an example of this, it's kind of like this conservative version of what I would call reference humor.

00:58:24.000 And you think back to, you know, back in the mid-2000s, there was this string of movies, it was like disaster movie, epic movie, date movie, you know what I'm talking about?

00:58:34.000 And the scary movie.

00:58:36.000 And that's what, and it was that, it was like, They wouldn't make a joke.

00:58:41.000 They would just kind of reference something from pop culture.

00:58:44.000 And then they say, Oh, look, Simon Cowell showed up, you know, from American Idol.

00:58:47.000 And there's no joke there.

00:58:49.000 It's just, I remember that thing.

00:58:50.000 And it's just the lowest form of, it's not really comedy at all, because you're not making a joke.

00:58:55.000 And sometimes conservatives can fall into that new norm.

00:58:57.000 Like I said, it's like, They're saying, oh, you know how woke people have purple hair.

00:59:02.000 You see, we have that too.

00:59:03.000 But that's, you have to, what, that could be funny, but you have to, the fact that we recognize that as a thing in culture is not funny.

00:59:11.000 You have to make a joke about it.

00:59:13.000 Um, which I think is, is sometimes lacking.

00:59:16.000 So when you're storyboarding, when you're prepping the movie, Ben, maybe this is a question for you, but you're obviously in the back of your mind knowing that some people are going to miss the mark.

00:59:26.000 They're going to want it to be a really serious documentary when it's actually a comedy.

00:59:30.000 They're going to misunderstand why you decided to make this choice in editing.

00:59:35.000 Is it something that you decide how much of that you're willing to absorb, or what's the cost-benefit analysis there?

00:59:42.000 Well, I definitely want to hear Matt's comments on this, because, you know, a lot.

00:59:47.000 This movie is his film, he's a producer on this film as well, and he's allowed to take full creative ownership of it, and he should.

00:59:54.000 That's racist.

00:59:57.000 But I really want to give credit to our director, Justin Folk, for keeping all of us and our entire team with our eyes on the prize here, which is to make a good movie and one that we all wanted to watch and one that hits the marks that we were achieving for ourselves.

01:00:14.000 There's a quote about a conductor when he's conducting a band, and that's you have to actually turn your back to the audience to do that well.

01:00:21.000 So there's definitely an aspect of that, and just trusting that we are good artists, we know how to make good art, and people will support that.

01:00:28.000 Another example of why I rate this 10 out of 10, the intro editing and music.

01:00:35.000 Something as really simple as the graphics used, where it's showing the various names of people involved in the introduction, and the style, the editing, the imagery, the graphic art and design was spot on.

01:00:46.000 Pacing was perfect, the songs were a good music choice.

01:00:50.000 I haven't seen a good comedy film in a very, very long time.

01:00:53.000 Most movies that we see that are comedy are just passively comedy.

01:00:58.000 Ant-Man, I mentioned this the other night, is a superhero movie that is also a comedy, but kind of.

01:01:03.000 Like, this was actually a comedy film that was edited to be one.

01:01:03.000 Yeah.

01:01:07.000 Yeah, I'm glad you bring up the editing, because in this movie, in this kind of movie in particular, the editing is, you know, of course editing is always important in any film, but in a film like this, when you're dealing with a lot of raw footage, and you're going out and doing things in real life, and then you kind of have to construct the story after the fact, The editing is all the more important.

01:01:23.000 So, so much of this, Justin Folk, director, but also, you know, kind of lead editor also on the project, and then our other editor, Marshall, they, you know, there were early versions of the film that Are just night and day that we're like with our first couple of versions were just not good.

01:01:43.000 And it's all the same kind of material.

01:01:45.000 It's all the same stuff, but you have to go back in and find it's like finding that.

01:01:49.000 When do we get out of the scene?

01:01:49.000 Okay.

01:01:50.000 When do we get into it?

01:01:52.000 Shaving off a little moment here and there can make a huge difference in a way that, you know.

01:01:56.000 Another reason, another reason I gotta point out, because you're making the light bulbs pop up.

01:02:01.000 It was very obvious to me that you guys wrote a story after these interviews in some of the cases.

01:02:07.000 It was obvious to me that in some of these circumstances you knew exactly what you were going to get out of these people.

01:02:11.000 I have a theory that you intentionally gave your name to that focus group in the beginning.

01:02:17.000 I don't think they just figured it out.

01:02:18.000 I think you got up and left, and my theory is that one of the persons was like, hey, that's Matt Walsh.

01:02:22.000 I don't think it was, because somebody who would have known.

01:02:24.000 But that's just my theory, you don't gotta say anything.

01:02:26.000 However, you guys had no idea of knowing that Robin DiAngelo was going to pay reparations.

01:02:31.000 So the VO you're doing and the story you're writing very much is dependent upon what those people gave you afterwards.

01:02:38.000 So you couldn't say, here's our story, now let's go get the scene with Robin DiAngelo.

01:02:42.000 It was, let's go see what happens.

01:02:44.000 Afterwards, okay, here's how we can fit this into a narrative and what the story's going to be.

01:02:47.000 And that's crazy in film, like making a documentary or a film.

01:02:51.000 I think it's massively impressive.

01:02:54.000 Yes, that is kind of how it works.

01:02:59.000 We started with a broad outline of what we wanted the movie to be, what we kind of wanted the quote unquote journey to be.

01:03:04.000 But you're right that it's like, well, we don't actually know what anyone's going to do or how they're going to respond.

01:03:10.000 So then you go out and you do something and there's always kind of a curveball thrown at you, which may take Yeah, so we had the outline and we ended up maybe like the first few steps of the outline that we actually did and then it just goes way off over here because we have to kind of follow the ball.

01:03:27.000 So then I'll ask you, did they actually know who you are and you got up and left the room and someone went, hey, that's Matt Walsh?

01:03:33.000 You know, it's interesting.

01:03:34.000 Things work a whole different, all different ways.

01:03:36.000 You know, you never know exactly how things work in life.

01:03:40.000 It's neither confirming or denying over there.

01:03:42.000 I can confirm.

01:03:43.000 Very Kamala Harris of you to dodge the answer.

01:03:47.000 I grew up a middle class kid.

01:03:50.000 I've made a bunch of mini-docs, I've made a handful of longer-form documentaries, and so when I was watching this, and after, like, first of all, I mean, that first woman, when you're talking about Moana and your daughter, I'm just, dude, it was painful how much, it was, like, the laughter was painful.

01:04:06.000 Everybody, the whole theater wouldn't shut up, they were laughing so much.

01:04:09.000 And then after a few scenes, when I realized how you would have had to have done this, I'm like, not only did they make a movie, they were navigating a maze as they were doing it to make it work.

01:04:18.000 This is genius, this is masterful.

01:04:21.000 I want to go back to that opening scene, the workshop, because there's some behind-the-scenes really, really funny stuff that happened when Matt was running across state lines to make sure that, you know, the cops weren't chasing after him after they called the police.

01:04:21.000 It's fantastic.

01:04:35.000 I was fleeing.

01:04:37.000 Left the team behind.

01:04:38.000 He called the cops on you.

01:04:39.000 They did call the cops on me.

01:04:40.000 He didn't even do anything!

01:04:40.000 That's crazy.

01:04:42.000 Yeah, so these people are very, very frustrated with me and our other producer, Sean Hampton, another black producer.

01:04:50.000 Who deserves a lot more credit than I'm currently receiving.

01:04:55.000 But they're very, very frustrated that him and I aren't talking to the police.

01:04:58.000 And we send, you know, the white guy, Justin Folk, to handle the cops while we're working the room.

01:05:03.000 And one of them comes up and just screams, you know, like, you guys are the producers.

01:05:06.000 You guys aren't talking to the cops.

01:05:06.000 What the hell?

01:05:08.000 Like, well, you know, I can't. 0.92

01:05:10.000 I'm blown away that you would even ask me.

01:05:12.000 As a black man, how could you do that?

01:05:14.000 You really made the situation so much more unsafe for me. 0.88

01:05:18.000 Did you really say that?

01:05:19.000 Of course.

01:05:20.000 Did she apologize?

01:05:21.000 She apologized.

01:05:22.000 She gives me a hug.

01:05:24.000 Oh my god.

01:05:26.000 There's a whole second movie with this guy, the behind the scenes movie of the movie, and the kind of acting that's had to go on, and much of that will never be, it was not on film.

01:05:41.000 You guys have to release a DVD with a special feature so we can see all these.

01:05:43.000 I will say that, I mean, I wasn't there when they called the cops and all that, but that seminar was supposed to go on for another hour, but they were so distraught emotionally by what happened that they had to stop.

01:05:54.000 And there were all kinds of comments I heard after the fact.

01:05:57.000 There was concerns, right, from some in the crowd.

01:06:00.000 Yeah, there's a school nearby and they're like, there's kids here!

01:06:02.000 And you're like, yeah.

01:06:04.000 Oh, no, Matt Walsh was near a school, what?

01:06:08.000 Oh, dude, that is wild.

01:06:10.000 Did they say anything else to you about it, or the other producer?

01:06:13.000 Or, like, that was it?

01:06:13.000 That was, like, the key moment?

01:06:15.000 That was certainly the highlight. 0.98

01:06:16.000 How dare you ask a black man to talk to cops? 1.00

01:06:19.000 Well, we did. 0.99

01:06:20.000 One thing I'll say, to your point, is that we... I mean, it's interesting, because what is a woman? 0.91

01:06:27.000 I think it turned out great.

01:06:28.000 I'm proud of that film.

01:06:32.000 Our original concept of what is a woman was actually supposed to be a little bit closer to air, in that our original idea was that I would go and talk to, and if you remember in that movie, the first person we talked to is this therapist, this, you know, woke gender therapist, and I ask her, maybe if I'm a woman, and she says, yeah, you probably are, And so the original concept was we wanted to kind of build from that.

01:06:59.000 Cause now I'm like, okay, I must be a woman.

01:07:01.000 And so then we're going to build from that and let like one thing lead to another where I kind of believe her.

01:07:06.000 And then we put that into action and then we kind of filmed the rest of it.

01:07:10.000 And, and, uh, it just, it turned out that that wasn't really going to work for an angle.

01:07:14.000 And we decided to go this direction instead.

01:07:16.000 I think it worked well.

01:07:17.000 And this one, we kind of went back to that and said, okay, we really want to get that feeling of this thing building.

01:07:22.000 So that we go and talk to one person, and I learn things, and it kind of changes my perspective.

01:07:27.000 And then we go to the next place, and it just builds and builds and builds, so that by the end of the movie, this thing can get really weird and kind of dark, and it kind of has this feeling of building.

01:07:37.000 You want to document ascending through the cult.

01:07:39.000 Right, exactly.

01:07:40.000 And then watching it back, especially when I saw it for the first time in theaters at the premiere, it felt that to me.

01:07:46.000 I felt the build, which is exactly what we were going for with that.

01:07:50.000 The whole theater busted out laughing when the over smiling chart scene.

01:07:56.000 Now, I don't give too much away, but those pictures and then just everyone started to erupt.

01:08:00.000 It was just, it's so good.

01:08:02.000 People got to go see the movie.

01:08:03.000 He was, he also had a, that was maybe his toughest role in the over smiling exercise to stand there.

01:08:09.000 Yeah, that one.

01:08:10.000 Staring at the group.

01:08:12.000 That scene was certainly the most.

01:08:13.000 I love it when you tell your Uncle Frank the joke about the picnic tables and the actor is laughing.

01:08:19.000 Yeah, we didn't script that.

01:08:20.000 I think that was just... It's not your actual uncle?

01:08:24.000 It's not my actual uncle, no.

01:08:26.000 I'm sure he's a great uncle to somebody.

01:08:30.000 But we didn't tell him the joke ahead of time.

01:08:32.000 You screamed it at him.

01:08:34.000 You know, there was a kind of a dark part about that scene.

01:08:37.000 I don't want to spoil anything if people haven't seen it yet,

01:08:40.000 but someone was talking about how they've cut off so many of

01:08:43.000 their family members because they're racist.

01:08:46.000 And obviously this person has a totally deranged idea of what

01:08:49.000 the word racist means and it showed how indoctrination like that really splits families apart and friendships apart.

01:08:59.000 And I know it's like a light-hearted movie, but that was actually like very demonic.

01:09:04.000 That was that actually so that part the thing that 95% of the people that talk about the movie, they bring up Robin DiAngelo, reparations and all that, which is, you know, it's a quite striking part of the film.

01:09:18.000 To me, that wasn't... Her paying reparations was not the most shocking thing for me making it.

01:09:22.000 I think for me, and I think I speak for most of the people in the crew, it was that.

01:09:27.000 It was Uncle Frank, and yeah, I don't want to give it all away, but The way that the class reacted to the Uncle Frank moment, for me, was the most shocking thing because I did not see that coming.

01:09:42.000 The way we had this plan, to the extent that you can plan anything, because we needed an out, like we needed a, this is the end of the journey, I need to have like a Dark Knight of the Soul thing, and I realized that this is all wrong, and we thought it'd be, I'm gonna take this too far, and the people in the class will not go along with it, and then that will be my realization that I've gone too far.

01:10:03.000 You could have gone further.

01:10:05.000 You could have handed the whips to the people and said, Frank is right there.

01:10:08.000 You think they would have hit him?

01:10:11.000 Yes.

01:10:13.000 They would have.

01:10:14.000 That's the proof.

01:10:16.000 Just to shamelessly plug, you know, you guys can go to Amiracist.com if you guys do want to find out exactly what happened to Uncle Frank.

01:10:24.000 And especially go this weekend.

01:10:25.000 It's pretty important to us.

01:10:27.000 So I bring my black friend along to do the plugs. 1.00

01:10:30.000 I may have lied at maybe 15.

01:10:31.000 It is interesting though because family estrangements are on the rise in America.

01:10:36.000 This is a documented phenomenon of people, like adult children, saying I'm not going to talk to my parents anymore for various reasons.

01:10:43.000 I think that people don't want to address the reality that you have to purge people from your life who don't think the right way is truly impacting the basic level of American culture, which is the family.

01:10:57.000 I think that's a reaction to the religion of secularism, too, because you have to essentially disagree with all ten of the commandments to really feel what they're feeling, and that's where you're seeing the shift in culture.

01:11:08.000 So if you're not obligated and truly morally obligated to honor your father and mother, then of course you can write them off for a petty political grievance.

01:11:17.000 That's terrifying stuff.

01:11:18.000 that people's families are being broken apart for weird, nonsensical—I mean, the word race,

01:11:24.000 the word white supremacy, all of these things have completely different meanings if you're

01:11:27.000 in the cult. And then based on those absurd, nonsensical meanings, they destroy your family.

01:11:34.000 But I said this before, I'm curious your thoughts on this.

01:11:38.000 It's kind of, you know, off topic, I guess.

01:11:40.000 But, you know, my view is that when you look at reproduction rates between conservatives and liberals, liberals are at like 1.4 or something, or it might be lower than that.

01:11:49.000 Conservatives are at like 1.8.

01:11:50.000 Then just do the math.

01:11:55.000 Certainly in 20 to 40 years there will be less people in the United States, but they'll be mostly conservative.

01:12:00.000 And so it only takes a small percentage change in the population's political ideology to overwhelmingly change its policy.

01:12:07.000 Because you get 51% in a country like this, you're going to change everything. 1.00

01:12:12.000 With conservatives having more kids than liberals, it kind of seems to me that the math is simple.

01:12:16.000 The future is going to be conservative.

01:12:19.000 Yes, if we assume that the conservatives having kids are passing down conservative values to their kids.

01:12:27.000 And that, I think, might be an optimistic assumption, unfortunately.

01:12:30.000 I'm not sure that that's actually happening.

01:12:35.000 Many indicators, you look at church attendance rates in particular, faith, you know, belief in God, these things are plummeting, you know, exponentially through the years.

01:12:47.000 And so, yeah, that kind of, I've heard that theory, but that sort of assumes that Conservatives are having kids, and those kids are remaining conservative, and they're having kids, and they're, you know, passing down those values.

01:12:59.000 I hope that happens, but I'm... But I think, you know, with your film, for instance, and not just what you're doing, but with the entirety of The Daily Wire is doing, and everybody else, I mean, you know, Mug Club had, Stephen Crowder's thing, they had an undercover journalism release where they caught the COVID czar talking about, let's just say, doing untoward things in violation of COVID lockdowns while locking down everybody else.

01:13:21.000 We've got a large, expansive, right-leaning cultural push that is gaining more and more ground and becoming more and more successful.

01:13:30.000 And so you look at some of the projects that are coming out of Disney, they lose a billion dollars over the last year.

01:13:35.000 You look at The Daily Wire and you guys are kings of the castle right now.

01:13:39.000 I mean, it's crazy how quickly you're growing.

01:13:41.000 And on this track, you do have the cultural values growing alongside basic reproduction.

01:13:47.000 So even in the instance where some conservative parents don't properly pass down those conservative values, when it comes to young men, they're overwhelmingly, and Gen Z, they're shifting towards the right, towards Donald Trump, they're gonna be watching your comedy films, and they're gonna get their values from Jordan Peterson.

01:14:02.000 And I think that combined with fertility rate, and I know the left is gonna lose their mind over me bringing that up, but I think that shows a positive upward trend in favor of the right as opposed to the left.

01:14:15.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

01:14:16.000 And that also speaks to the importance of kind of a lot of what we're trying to do with the Daily Wire, but not just us.

01:14:25.000 Look, art forms culture.

01:14:30.000 And so there is no culture war.

01:14:32.000 Like, we're not even fighting a culture war if we're not trying to create art.

01:14:36.000 And that means movies, films, shows, music.

01:14:42.000 And for so long, we kind of bowed out of that almost completely, except in our own little silos where we're making stuff just for us.

01:14:49.000 But as long as you're doing that, there is no meaningful culture war.

01:14:52.000 This is the culture war.

01:14:55.000 And if you're not doing that, then you're not fighting it.

01:14:57.000 And so for this to make a meaningful difference, then we need to see a lot more of that.

01:15:02.000 So yeah, I saw that Twitter thread I was talking about on my morning show the other day where you mentioned all these different companies were refusing to review the film and we brought it up and they did the same thing to us when we released a song two years ago and we've released six songs now and it's all blacklisted.

01:15:18.000 Not only is it blacklisted but I don't want to say too much because we have another song coming out next week and we're going to try and We all, you know, you guys hit Rotten Tomatoes, you guys are our top box office film.

01:15:30.000 We also want to see that cultural success, but we do know that we are invading far-left woke institutions, playing by the rules that they've set up, and it pisses them off.

01:15:42.000 So you've got to try and, I don't know, like weasel your way through and put pressure on them and force them to acknowledge it and take those institutions back.

01:15:52.000 Yeah, that's the, I mean, I don't know, in the music industry, I can only imagine how stacked against you it is.

01:15:58.000 We are in, with film, the film industry, we're only just sort of beginning to experience the obstacles that they can put up in your path.

01:16:09.000 Because it is different when you're making stuff like this and you're putting it on a platform like on Daily Wire platform.

01:16:13.000 I mean, there's, that's important to do also.

01:16:15.000 But when you, it's like the left is, Yeah, they don't love that.

01:16:20.000 They'd prefer if we weren't doing anything at all.

01:16:22.000 But they're okay with that if you keep it in your own little lane.

01:16:26.000 But if you take your stuff and you try to bring it out to a mass audience, that's what makes them very angry.

01:16:32.000 And the problem is that all the You know, we hear the term gatekeeper from the left all the time, usually in erroneous ways, but this is where gatekeeping is real.

01:16:42.000 Like, they have all the gatekeepers for this stuff.

01:16:45.000 They control all of that, or almost all of it.

01:16:49.000 And so, you know, it's one of those, I've been saying, it's like sometimes you don't know how high the mountain is until you start climbing it.

01:16:58.000 That's kind of what it is when you get into the film industry with theaters and all that.

01:17:01.000 It's like, you start to realize, man, they really own this institution completely.

01:17:07.000 It is kind of an insurgent.

01:17:09.000 Yep.

01:17:09.000 It's an insurgency.

01:17:10.000 And it's manufactured in a lot of ways.

01:17:12.000 They can guarantee the success of certain projects to a certain degree.

01:17:16.000 In music especially.

01:17:18.000 Playlists, which I'm sure you guys are familiar with, and the digital streaming platforms.

01:17:23.000 They'll just say like, if you press, you know, I do this, I'll be driving in my car, I got a Tesla, and it's got like, you know, you'll click modern.

01:17:31.000 And there's a band I have never heard of.

01:17:34.000 And I'm like, interesting, not a fan of this band.

01:17:36.000 I got no beef.

01:17:37.000 I wonder why it's in their latest releases, streaming playlist.

01:17:41.000 I look the band up.

01:17:42.000 They have no history.

01:17:44.000 They have no successes.

01:17:46.000 They have no charting songs.

01:17:47.000 They're on YouTube.

01:17:48.000 They get a few thousand views.

01:17:50.000 And I'm not trying to rag on small upcoming bands.

01:17:53.000 It's just a question of why does this band get preferential access to digital streaming playlists?

01:17:59.000 And other people do not.

01:18:01.000 It's because they fully and wholly control what is going to be mainstream.

01:18:07.000 I'm hanging out at, you know, C-Town Races, the racetrack and casino, and you're walking through this gigantic building, and they're playing music.

01:18:15.000 And I hear a song, and I'm like, I know what band this is, and they are not big.

01:18:20.000 How do they get in rotation at a casino with 50,000 people coming through it every hour or whatever?

01:18:27.000 It's an owned institution.

01:18:29.000 These labels pick and choose whose song will be played in these mediums that people will hear, and if you are outside the political realm of these groups or your persona non grata or whatever, they're just gonna say, what's that?

01:18:42.000 You're a chart-topping song with record sales and you're getting tons of hits and people really like the song?

01:18:47.000 We are going to blacklist you, block you, mock you, and try to make sure you never get a foothold in this industry.

01:18:52.000 It's kind of amazing that Kamala Harris can run an I'm the Underdog campaign knowing that she has the full support of institutions like this, right, that get to say, we want these messages to be here and we don't want anything else. 0.74

01:19:04.000 I mean, it's, I think, asking Americans to set aside everything they know about how huge corporations work.

01:19:13.000 Corporations prefer artists that are somehow under their label that they will ultimately benefit from.

01:19:17.000 They don't want anyone coming in from the outside, especially if they do not agree with their political alignment.

01:19:23.000 How much of this is just what people, like, naturally gravitate towards?

01:19:26.000 Because I don't know when this happened, but it seems like conservatives are just temperamentally less creative and less, um... I don't know, they think outside the box less, and that's why they've gravitated to creating think tanks instead of movies or music.

01:19:44.000 I think you're right, but let's do this.

01:19:46.000 We'll answer this point you're making by talking about this story.

01:19:49.000 We have this from the post-millennial.

01:19:51.000 Marvel's new queer series, Agatha All Along, to be quote, gay explosion. 0.96

01:19:56.000 The show has a lot of layers and gay is one of them. 1.00

01:19:59.000 I don't know why, or what the point is, but it's a new show on Disney+, it came out the other day.

01:20:05.000 Agatha all along is following the series WandaVision, it's a mini-series, and Post Malone, you're incorrect, it was released yesterday, not on 25th, they put up two episodes, and it's about Agatha as a witch, she lost her powers, Wanda from Avengers took them from her, and of course, When they do a show like this, here's what they have to say about it.

01:20:26.000 I've always looked up to Wanda Sykes as another black queer woman in comedy.

01:20:29.000 we, and set aside for many reasons.

01:20:31.000 The show shows a really good representation of different types of people, and that we

01:20:34.000 can all use the power we have within to go forward and be great.

01:20:38.000 I've always looked up to Wanda Sykes as another black queer woman in comedy.

01:20:42.000 Living her truth is really inspiring and awesome.

01:20:45.000 Disney has decided to make shows that are overt in their politics, much like conservatives

01:20:51.000 did with their old Christian films that people used to make fun of.

01:20:54.000 It seems like when the left decided to adopt what we refer to as non-theistic religion or secular religion, they've begun to fall into the old traps that the old Christian conservatives would fall into of making preachy, over-the-top ideological content instead of making simple comedy with the message being underneath or passive.

01:21:15.000 Now, Disney's lost a billion dollars on a bunch of their movies.

01:21:19.000 The Marvel movies are doing worse and worse in the box office.

01:21:23.000 Captain Marvel, talk about a nightmarish mistake.

01:21:26.000 You got Robert Downey Jr., who is, you know, the 20 million dollar guy or whatever.

01:21:31.000 They're paying him 20 million bucks for these movies, 60 million bucks for these movies.

01:21:35.000 He's going to retire and they say, Brie Larson is going to be the new linchpin of the Marvel Universe.

01:21:42.000 She's a girl boss who's insufferable that everybody hates. 1.00

01:21:45.000 Her movie fails.

01:21:47.000 Captain Marvel, the film, did well.

01:21:47.000 I mean, don't get me wrong.

01:21:49.000 Then they make a sequel to it, The Marvels.

01:21:50.000 It bombs.

01:21:51.000 They try cutting the film down, desperate to do something with it.

01:21:54.000 They have not learned their lesson.

01:21:57.000 Or actually, here's my question for you guys.

01:21:59.000 Does Disney actually know they're gonna burn all their money doing this?

01:22:04.000 But they're cultish, communist, zealots, and they're gonna keep doing it anyway?

01:22:09.000 Yeah, I think some of it is what we talked about, they're putting the message before the quality of the art.

01:22:18.000 I think also it's just, it's a little bit of what Mary was just saying about historically the problem with conservatives is just Yeah, you know, you have the institutions that are stopping us and all of that kind of thing, and that's true.

01:22:31.000 But also just there aren't as many conservatives who have the ability to be creative in that way.

01:22:37.000 And I think that now on the left, they're suffering from the same problem. 0.97

01:22:42.000 And so in a company like Disney, they just might not have, they might not realize that this stuff sucks.

01:22:48.000 I mean, they might not have the talent and I don't think they have the artistic, right.

01:22:52.000 They might not have the artistic talent and sensibilities to even know how to make I think it's because they're overstaffed with people who think the same way.

01:22:59.000 Say what you want about Disney historically, but they used to create, obviously, like, masterpieces of their genre.

01:23:06.000 And I'm not sure they even have the ability to do that now, even if you take the politics outside of it.

01:23:09.000 I think it's because they're overstaffed with people who think the same way.

01:23:12.000 When I went to CPAC in, like, 2012, I was, I think, in high school, maybe a little bit younger.

01:23:18.000 And I remember at the time, the Batman movie had come out, and there was a big talk about, like, what's the messaging

01:23:23.000 behind this?

01:23:24.000 It's actually a conservative movie.

01:23:25.000 And I remember one of the speakers said, you know, parents, if you have kids who are trying to decide what they want to do, don't send them to DC.

01:23:31.000 If you want them to have an impact on America, send them to Hollywood.

01:23:35.000 And, you know, it's like, well, Hollywood is a terrible place where horrible things happen and they don't share, you know, good values.

01:23:41.000 But it just made it so all of the writers who are rising through the ranks who eventually get a seat at these tables were completely bent in one direction.

01:23:50.000 We sort of – if you're a conservative, you sort of self-selected out of this industry because you decided it was lost.

01:23:56.000 But therefore it became more lost and you have a bunch of people looking at each other being like, I think this is a good idea, and Etsy sells a lot of queer witch products, so clearly somebody's buying this stuff. 0.62

01:24:06.000 There's no barometer for normalcy.

01:24:08.000 There's also something hilarious about parents being like, okay, well I can't send my kids

01:24:13.000 to Hollywood, you know, that's Sodom. 0.90

01:24:16.000 So they're like, well let's send them to the moral bastion that is DC, that'll take care

01:24:19.000 of them, that'll keep them.

01:24:20.000 Well, so I have a question for you guys.

01:24:22.000 Were you always... Well, I don't know about you, but Ben, how do you... Are you a conservative Christian?

01:24:27.000 Slightly to the right of Genghis Khan.

01:24:29.000 Oh, okay.

01:24:30.000 Okay, just a little bit.

01:24:31.000 Yeah.

01:24:31.000 Have you guys always been conservative Christian, right-leaning, etc.?

01:24:37.000 I have, yeah.

01:24:38.000 That's how I was raised.

01:24:40.000 Wasn't Michael Knowles, like, a liberal when he was younger, and now he's much more, I don't know, stoic and Catholic?

01:24:47.000 That guy's still a lib.

01:24:49.000 No, yeah, I think, yeah, he talks about how he kind of fell out of the faith and came back.

01:24:56.000 I just wonder if what we're seeing is that there are, you know, the people like Mary mentions, the conservatives traditionally don't think outside the box, but you end up with a lot of middle-of-the-road types who normally identified as more liberal because there was more outside-the-box thinking and creativity.

01:25:14.000 And now they're all death cultists who have lost their minds, and so the middle-of-the-road people have aligned themselves with conservatives, giving that creativity and that creative force to the right.

01:25:25.000 That's why you're seeing woke, psychotic, gay-explosion TV shows that burn billions of dollars, and on the right you're seeing an increasing talent pool and more and more success. 1.00

01:25:34.000 Justin Fulk has talked about this a lot, where he refers to all of us as just the new punk rock, the new counterculture.

01:25:41.000 You know, we're the ones raging against the machine while Rage at the Machine is doing concerts.

01:25:45.000 Raging on behalf of the machine.

01:25:46.000 Well, exactly.

01:25:47.000 Sponsored by, you know, Big Pharma.

01:25:50.000 So I do think there is going to continue to be a shift where people who are, you know, questioning the, not just the regime, but just where we've gotten to in a cultural standpoint will be finding themselves aligned with conservative messaging and conservative values more often.

01:26:06.000 So I do think there is a chance that we'll be able to have a new generation of quote-unquote conservative artists, which is probably an oxymoron.

01:26:13.000 That also requires us though to cultivate artistic talent on the right, which I think that We still are.

01:26:21.000 We're in the infancy of figuring out, I mean broadly when I say we, I mean conservatives.

01:26:26.000 Are in the early days of figuring out how to do that.

01:26:29.000 Um, and we haven't been very good at that in the past.

01:26:31.000 And, and cause you know what, as you said, typically if you're conservative and you want to change the culture in some way, you go to a think tank.

01:26:40.000 Um, and now it's like you start a podcast, nothing against podcasts, obviously it's what I do every day, but you get into the commentary space.

01:26:47.000 And I still think that there's a lot of, uh, and there's, there's definitely a place for that.

01:26:51.000 As I said, as someone who does it.

01:26:52.000 There's a place for commentary, but I think that there's still probably a lot of creative talent on the right that's being kind of wasted.

01:27:02.000 On this, on just offering commentary, and no one's coming along and saying, look, you have a real, like, you have something else you can do, and we're gonna help, we're gonna fund you, we're gonna help you figure out how to do it.

01:27:13.000 I completely agree.

01:27:14.000 I mean, look at The Daily Wire, for instance.

01:27:16.000 Wasting Ben Shapiro's talents?

01:27:18.000 That guy should be playing violin in concerts and orchestras.

01:27:22.000 No, he could, though.

01:27:23.000 I mean, the dude's really good at it, but... And he's also a best-selling rap artist, as we know.

01:27:28.000 That is excellent.

01:27:29.000 But, you know, I'm curious what you think, Mary.

01:27:31.000 You're younger and you're mentioning this, like, you know, conservatives don't think outside the box.

01:27:35.000 I'm wondering if you're seeing younger people who lean right having more creativity than you'd expect or something like that.

01:27:41.000 Honestly, what's been on my mind lately is, like, maybe I'm not a conservative.

01:27:46.000 I know I'm right-wing, but I think that progressives and conservatives kind of think the same way, where they see history in this linear sense, where we're either ascending toward progress or we're descending into dystopian hellscape.

01:28:04.000 And we're either going to create that dystopia or comment on it from the sidelines.

01:28:11.000 And, like, maybe there needs to be some kind of rise of a right-wing progressivism.

01:28:16.000 What does that mean?

01:28:17.000 I don't know how to explain it.

01:28:19.000 I don't know what label to put on it, but people who care about innovating, people who care about creating and adapting.

01:28:25.000 That's what conservatives have proven themselves incapable of doing, is adapting to the current circumstances.

01:28:31.000 Do you mean, like, retaining moral foundations in You know, like, I don't necessarily want to say Judeo-Christian, but around that.

01:28:44.000 What do you mean by right-wingers?

01:28:45.000 There's something I want to draw attention to, actually.

01:28:48.000 Last year, I went to a music festival that's called Catholic Palooza.

01:28:52.000 Have you heard of this?

01:28:54.000 It sounds terrible, but tell me more.

01:28:54.000 Uh oh.

01:28:57.000 It sounds like Lollapalooza, but Catholic. 0.99

01:29:00.000 Yeah, that's why it sounds terrible.

01:29:01.000 Is it better than that?

01:29:02.000 There was a second iteration of it earlier this year in New Jersey, and I didn't get to go to that one, but they brought in a bunch of these Catholic independent musicians and had them perform in front of an audience of young Catholic people

01:29:16.000 and they were normal.

01:29:18.000 They were actually normal young people and I know it sounds really nerdy and

01:29:23.000 That was the music.

01:29:24.000 It sounds bad.

01:29:25.000 Yes, the music was good.

01:29:26.000 Okay, good.

01:29:27.000 They were doing like metal versions of Ave Maria?

01:29:29.000 They actually had some...

01:29:30.000 Yeah, there's this post-punk act named Hallowed who headlined last year and he's really talented

01:29:37.000 so big shout out to him.

01:29:38.000 But, like, it genuinely wasn't, like, a cringe-fest.

01:29:42.000 And, like, I know that might sound shocking to the audience listening right now, but it, yeah, I think there is something bubbling up with young creative people who actually have morals.

01:29:52.000 And the, not to get off on kind of a tangent, but the, so the music at this festival, Was it all Catholic music in the sense that it was about religion and about Catholicism and about God?

01:30:06.000 Were they also performing songs about other things?

01:30:11.000 It was a mix.

01:30:14.000 It was a mix of both.

01:30:15.000 This is one thing, and I don't follow Christian music, I've never listened to it that much, but one of my complaints about Christian music Typically is first of all I think often it just doesn't it's not very good but but also there's this idea that like if you're making Christian music it always has to be about Jesus explicitly which nothing wrong but with singing praises to Jesus don't get me wrong but if you if you perform a song about anything that's true and beautiful

01:30:42.000 It is Christian, in a sense, and so we also want music that's about, like, the whole scope of human existence.

01:30:49.000 I mean, there were songs about, like, suffering.

01:30:52.000 Like, that's a universal concept that people can relate to.

01:30:56.000 It wasn't just, like, You know, the kind of Christian rock concert that you're thinking of in a megachurch and like a strip mall, you know what I mean?

01:31:05.000 Go back in time, look at lyrics from the 40s, 50s, 60s.

01:31:09.000 Christian themes in music was...

01:31:13.000 Ubiquitous.

01:31:14.000 And it was normal for a pop song not to overtly praise Jesus, but to passively mention something like, you're listening to a song and they mention, I was leaving church on Sunday when I saw my friend.

01:31:25.000 And it's not that it's a Christian song, but elements of Christianity and the social practices were ingrained in the culture, as they were, and this came out in music.

01:31:36.000 Moving forward, you get to the 90s, I will say you had bands like Creed, which were massive, and they're not overtly, in their big hits, singing, you know, praise Jesus, but, um, Higher, you know, the song is clearly about, can you take me higher?

01:31:50.000 A better place, a better world, a world he dreams of, and then with Arms Wide Open about having a kid, and, you know, the joy that he feels from it, these things are still in line with that same moral worldview.

01:31:59.000 And that was like a massive, you know, multi-platinum band at the time.

01:32:04.000 Now, music is degenerate, evil, satanic.

01:32:07.000 Even in the 2000s, there was a huge surge of Christian metalcore. 0.75

01:32:12.000 Yeah, Korn.

01:32:14.000 Korn was Christian? 0.98

01:32:15.000 Was it Korn Christian? 0.99

01:32:16.000 I don't know about Korn specifically.

01:32:19.000 I don't know about that, because the song got the life.

01:32:21.000 He's saying, you know, God told me I already got the life.

01:32:24.000 For Today, Memphis Mayfire, I don't know if anybody in the chat is going to know the examples that I'm saying.

01:32:30.000 But like, other bands- Was Korn Christian though?

01:32:32.000 Can we- Caramore originally, like Hayley Williams was an outspoken Christian.

01:32:36.000 Flyleaf as well.

01:32:39.000 Guitarist from Korn is Christian.

01:32:41.000 Yeah, I think they're Christian now.

01:32:43.000 I think those guys are Christian now, I believe.

01:32:46.000 There's a revolver that says, in 2021, that said, am I still Christian?

01:32:51.000 So there's obviously some kind of influence in the band.

01:32:53.000 I mean, I think that is one of the distinctions.

01:32:55.000 Like, do you have to be always singing about, like, here is the Bible verse and here is exactly what you should be saying?

01:33:00.000 Or are you just a Christian who then lives life and operates their business in a way that reflects that? 0.75

01:33:08.000 Here's the issue, though.

01:33:08.000 You know, you mentioned bands like Paramore.

01:33:10.000 I mean, they're woke.

01:33:13.000 They kind of shrugged off that identity relatively quickly when it became... Do they ever actually have it?

01:33:19.000 And the argument we hear from a lot of these individuals is that Christianity can be inclusive.

01:33:25.000 You go to Shepherdstown in West Virginia, West Virginia, and the churches have pride flags.

01:33:32.000 And trans flags.

01:33:33.000 And it's like, well, that's a wholly different ideology.

01:33:36.000 Like, by all means, go have your ideology, go believe whatever you want to believe, just leave me alone.

01:33:39.000 But the Christian faith That doesn't exist. 0.84

01:33:46.000 There's no such thing as a pro-trans Christianity, pro-abortion Christianity.

01:33:51.000 You're watching churches splinter over this, right?

01:33:53.000 Like the Episcopalian church is having a big issue with this.

01:33:56.000 Methodist Church is splitting over this issue and so I think that there is sort of, maybe not what we're talking about with a conservative progressivism, but I think there is sort of a renaissance of what are conservative values and what are American traditions that we want to carry on?

01:34:11.000 How do we define ourselves?

01:34:12.000 And I think actually art is a really big key to this.

01:34:15.000 Like if you have young people who are saying, I want to live by these values, which we would normally ascribe as being maybe more socially conservative or whatever else, and they're the ones also saying, Well, I am now creating the paintings, and I am now creating the movies, and I am now creating the board games, or whatever of these, like, tokens of culture we need to sort of have without having to always say there's a Bible verse on literally everything.

01:34:37.000 I think you will see a big change, but it's incremental over time, and right now, like, when you talk about Hollywood, yes, I think there should be young, you know, filmmakers who don't just have the same ideology.

01:34:49.000 On the other hand, does that mean that we have to have and outside Hollywood where they go or do they go in to the

01:34:55.000 institutions and say, oh, well, I'm here and you have to deal with me. It's hard

01:34:58.000 to say because otherwise, it is difficult to get funding as a young creative. You

01:35:03.000 have to go somewhere, you have to support yourself, you need someone to back your

01:35:07.000 art for you to be able to make it.

01:35:08.000 Yeah, I mean, one of the issues to those is when we talk about, you know, Christian 1.00

01:35:14.000 art doesn't always have to be explicitly announcing itself as such.

01:35:20.000 But one of the issues, this is also one of the challenges you have as a conservative or Christian trying to make any kind of art, you know, any kind of art form, is that there's some, there's a kind of loud voice within the conservative audience that gets very angry if you try to do anything that is not, painting within kind of the lines that have been established.

01:35:41.000 And we, we ran into that with both movies.

01:35:43.000 I mean, I remember what is a woman, there was a big controversy among some particular Christian commentators with that movie, because they were mad that at the end of the film, we did not have a gospel message that they wanted, you know, I got into that movie, I go in and talk to Alyssa, my wife to find out the answer to what is a woman.

01:36:03.000 And they wanted her to like pull out the Bible and quote it to me.

01:36:07.000 And because she didn't, they thought that ultimately the movie was a miss.

01:36:11.000 And you're running to the same thing now with this movie and there are people that are... Well, someone wrote an op-ed about it saying that you were using deception.

01:36:20.000 Yeah, there's some Christian commentators and there's an op-ed in, I think it's World.

01:36:26.000 The website world, uh, where they were, yeah, they were saying that we use deceptive tactics and so it's immoral and unethical.

01:36:33.000 And, um, you know, they liked the movie, but, but it's, it's interesting because they say they liked the movie, but really it shouldn't exist because it's founded in this evil premise of using deception.

01:36:43.000 Uh, but again, it's, it, we run into this thing where you have some in the audience that, you know, you try to go outside of the lines a little bit and do something, you know, a little bit.

01:36:53.000 Provocative, perhaps, and there are some in the audience that just are not.

01:36:57.000 They're very resistant to it.

01:36:57.000 They don't want that.

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01:37:44.000 People are asking me to debate you on the death penalty.

01:37:47.000 Are you pro-death penalty?

01:37:48.000 I am.

01:37:48.000 Alright, then we'll debate.

01:37:51.000 And I'm right, so we'll see what happens.

01:37:56.000 Shane H. Wilder says, Matt, I loved Am I Racist?

01:38:00.000 It was a masterpiece.

01:38:01.000 Hi Tim, Mary, Ian, Hannah-Claire, Raymond, Cashman, Brett, and Serge.

01:38:05.000 Did I get everybody this time?

01:38:08.000 Kellen.

01:38:09.000 You missed Kellen.

01:38:10.000 How dare you?

01:38:12.000 I'm kidding.

01:38:13.000 Kyle says, Matt, Am I Racist is a masterpiece.

01:38:16.000 One of my favorite parts was when you moved number two's magnet to eight.

01:38:21.000 I think it'd be hilarious if you put out your own DEI course with a certificate.

01:38:26.000 You mentioned the website, though.

01:38:26.000 Is that a real site that you guys made?

01:38:28.000 DoTheWorkWorkshop.com.

01:38:28.000 I just went to it.

01:38:30.000 Yeah, it's a real sight.

01:38:33.000 This is affiliated with you?

01:38:34.000 Or it's just... Oh yeah, that's ours.

01:38:36.000 Oh, that's my workshop.

01:38:37.000 Unless somebody stole it.

01:38:38.000 Do you over-smile?

01:38:40.000 If you're guilty of over-smiling, we invite you to take our two-hour intensive course at a theater near you.

01:38:46.000 Wait, can we show that?

01:38:47.000 I'm ready to begin my journey.

01:38:49.000 I just felt some wonder and over-smiling from everyone at this table.

01:38:52.000 You're gonna hand out report cards after this, right?

01:38:54.000 Yeah, you guys are being graded.

01:38:57.000 Can we pull this up real quick?

01:38:58.000 Just that I loved this chart you used. 0.97

01:39:00.000 You are racist, but how racist are you? 0.98

01:39:02.000 Who's this? 1.00

01:39:03.000 Is it Jussie?

01:39:05.000 I believe that's George Floyd.

01:39:06.000 George Floyd?

01:39:07.000 That's not George Floyd.

01:39:08.000 Is that not George Floyd?

01:39:09.000 That looks like Jussie Smollett. 1.00

01:39:11.000 And then this is Rachel Dove as well.

01:39:12.000 It'd be really funny if that was George Floyd.

01:39:13.000 Abraham Lincoln, Donald Trump, and a Klan out. 0.87

01:39:17.000 That's Jussie Smollett, by the way, I'm pretty sure.

01:39:20.000 Yeah, yeah, he's a zero.

01:39:23.000 Yeah, my favorite thing was the over...

01:39:27.000 The over-smiling thing.

01:39:28.000 There you go, that's the face.

01:39:30.000 When that face appeared, everyone just started busting out laughing.

01:39:33.000 Over-smiling is racist.

01:39:36.000 Very good.

01:39:38.000 All right.

01:39:39.000 Let's grab some more.

01:39:40.000 Peter Gohawk says, watched almost every episode for the last four years and I'm a member.

01:39:44.000 It'd be great if you guys could get Jesse on fire or Sean Ryan on your show.

01:39:48.000 Keep up the great job.

01:39:49.000 Fight, fight, fight again.

01:39:51.000 So, you know, we did this thing where I said one like equals one fight, fight, fight.

01:39:53.000 Cause that's what Trump said.

01:39:55.000 And then they tried to kill him again.

01:39:56.000 So now I put fight, fight, fight again.

01:39:58.000 I can't believe it.

01:39:59.000 I mean, geez, fight, fight, fight.

01:40:02.000 I know.

01:40:02.000 All right.

01:40:02.000 Six times.

01:40:03.000 I don't know if that'll fit.

01:40:05.000 I think let me get my shoes should become a slogan.

01:40:07.000 The fact that he was like, you cannot pull me off this stage without my shoes was just sort of iconic.

01:40:13.000 Yeah.

01:40:13.000 Wrath of Paul says, I am a teamster and I don't know of anyone in my workplace who supports Harris.

01:40:19.000 That's good news!

01:40:21.000 Good news.

01:40:23.000 Let's grab some more.

01:40:25.000 Multiracial Lion says, Matt, did you film the stunts yourself in the fight scene as part of doing the work?

01:40:31.000 Are you the new Jackie Chan?

01:40:32.000 Three times fight squared.

01:40:35.000 Well, I gotta say, yeah, I mean, that was my first time filming any kind of fight scene, and it wasn't much of a fight.

01:40:42.000 But I will say, I want to take credit for one thing.

01:40:46.000 That whole scene, I take no credit for it.

01:40:47.000 It was one of our producers, Mike, who had the whole concept for that scene.

01:40:53.000 Punching by attacker with the Subway sandwich.

01:40:56.000 It was my idea.

01:40:57.000 It was my inspiration.

01:40:58.000 And I think it makes the whole movie.

01:41:01.000 It's the greatest movie in the movie.

01:41:02.000 I don't know if it's spoiling if you explain, like, to people what you're referring to.

01:41:07.000 Or would you rather just let people go see it and figure it out for themselves?

01:41:10.000 I guess I'll let them go see it.

01:41:11.000 Yeah.

01:41:12.000 Amiracist.com.

01:41:13.000 You can go there right now.

01:41:15.000 I mean, surprisingly, it's like in every single theater by us.

01:41:18.000 There's a couple of small theaters it's not playing at, but all the big ones have it.

01:41:23.000 So it's not even, you know, we got dinner and then we pulled up to the theater and there it was.

01:41:26.000 But they didn't have the big poster like they should have.

01:41:29.000 You know, they should have that big thing on the wall.

01:41:31.000 I want to see Matt Walsh's face.

01:41:33.000 But they didn't do it.

01:41:34.000 But whatever.

01:41:36.000 They're trying to not acknowledge it again.

01:41:38.000 But actually, I have a question for you.

01:41:39.000 Was there pushback from big theaters when you guys... Because weren't you initially doing a smaller run in theaters, and then it got upgraded?

01:41:46.000 Actually, there was not pushback from the big theater chains, which was nice.

01:41:51.000 I mean, I actually give them a lot of credit for taking the film.

01:41:54.000 The only pushback was not about the content of the film.

01:41:56.000 It was because it's a documentary, and so they said, Look, documentaries do nothing in the box office.

01:42:03.000 People do not come out and watch them.

01:42:04.000 They don't even chart.

01:42:06.000 And so we had to kind of prove with pre-sales that there's an audience for this thing.

01:42:10.000 And so we went from 200 screens, I think, to 1,500.

01:42:12.000 Yeah.

01:42:13.000 And it's a comedy.

01:42:15.000 It's not really a documentary.

01:42:17.000 And then you guys ended up getting, what, number three?

01:42:20.000 It was really number four.

01:42:20.000 Yeah, we'll call it.

01:42:21.000 I think we're number three right now.

01:42:22.000 We are number three right now, currently, today.

01:42:24.000 Yeah.

01:42:25.000 Maybe I can look up...

01:42:28.000 Unless we went back to number four.

01:42:30.000 We were doing this with Box Office Mojo, is that it?

01:42:32.000 Yeah.

01:42:33.000 Where they show, oh look at that!

01:42:35.000 Latest dailies, you are currently number three.

01:42:37.000 Yeah.

01:42:38.000 Beetlejuice Beetlejuice has you crushed.

01:42:40.000 And then for the weekend, you were number four.

01:42:42.000 Yeah, but today you are number three.

01:42:44.000 Number three, man!

01:42:46.000 You know, Deadpool and Rover, they don't care.

01:42:48.000 They don't count.

01:42:48.000 They've been out too long.

01:42:49.000 They don't count.

01:42:51.000 That is kind of crazy they've been out so long.

01:42:53.000 I enjoyed it.

01:42:54.000 What's the, uh, okay.

01:42:56.000 Yeah, well, you're currently number three.

01:42:57.000 We'll see what happens next weekend.

01:42:58.000 Everybody should bring their friends and family to go see it.

01:43:02.000 I feel like in terms of people who, um... Here's what I think is great about this.

01:43:06.000 One of the things we talk about here with Building Culture, at our other location where we have the smaller skate park, we have a Gadsden flag hanging up.

01:43:15.000 I never – whenever we film the skateboard stuff, there's no politics in it.

01:43:19.000 We don't have any of our skateboarders say, woo, go Trump. 0.98

01:43:21.000 That's ridiculous.

01:43:22.000 But the point is, we as individuals, producing content someone might enjoy, and with American icons and flags, like the Gazzan flag. 0.89

01:43:32.000 I want there to be some young guy who likes watching our videos and doesn't care about politics, and he sees that flag, and then one day, someone says, hey, that flag's, like, racist.

01:43:41.000 And I'm like, what are you talking about? 1.00

01:43:42.000 That's stupid. 1.00

01:43:43.000 Like, I'm just watching skateboarding, dude. 1.00

01:43:44.000 These guys are cool.

01:43:46.000 We want to just normalize American imagery and normal things without preaching to people, you know?

01:43:52.000 So I think the reason why I bring that up is You bring your friends and family to go see Am I Racist?, and what that does is it introduces people to Matt Walsh outside of a political context, an overt political context.

01:44:05.000 Like, if someone took a clip from you where you're saying, you know, transgender and gender ideology, these are wrong ideas, they're bad, they don't match with Christianity, and I'm voting for Trump, you send it to your passively liberal aunt or whatever, and she's gonna be like, oh, white supremacy!

01:44:18.000 But you bring some family members to watch a comedy film, they watch Matt Walsh, they say, this guy's hilarious, this is really funny, he spilled the plates, this guy's making jokes.

01:44:27.000 Later on, they're gonna be like, oh, I like that guy, he's funny.

01:44:29.000 They're more likely to watch and be receptive to other things you may do.

01:44:33.000 Could not agree more.

01:44:34.000 I think that's exactly the right approach, yeah.

01:44:37.000 Let's grab some more. 0.80

01:44:38.000 Western Body says, sounds like a start to a zombie novel where Trump was implied to be turned into a zombie.

01:44:45.000 I don't remember what that was in reference to.

01:44:46.000 Probably the chemical attack.

01:44:48.000 Oh, right, right, right.

01:44:49.000 Indeed, indeed, indeed.

01:44:51.000 Indeed, indeed.

01:44:52.000 I still think it's, you know, if it's if it's not legitimate, then I think it's it's rumors created to make people not go to his rallies.

01:44:59.000 I think there is a fear of people seeing Trump in person and being like converted.

01:45:04.000 I hope it's that because there's gonna be a Streisand effect and more people are just- Well, obviously, I don't want people to suffer like getting poured chemicals on you.

01:45:10.000 That's not a good sign.

01:45:13.000 Who's that?

01:45:13.000 I'm not a football guy.

01:45:14.000 Are you a football guy?

01:45:15.000 I'm a football guy, but I don't follow college football.

01:45:17.000 the end of 2024. Trump assassins or Florida State football team? Who's that?

01:45:22.000 I'm not a football guy. Are you a football guy? I'm a football guy but I don't follow college football.

01:45:27.000 Professional football. I saw a funny meme where it was like a guy banging on the

01:45:31.000 ground crying and it was like the 19 year olds that compete for the my

01:45:36.000 favorite college are losing or something like that.

01:45:38.000 I was like, okay, well, I guess is that a bad thing?

01:45:43.000 I admit that it feels like a fundamentally absurd thing to follow, to care about sports.

01:45:48.000 I watch the NFL, I watch the Ravens, they're my team.

01:45:50.000 I get very emotionally invested if they lose.

01:45:53.000 The Ravens are your team?

01:45:54.000 Because I'm from Baltimore.

01:45:54.000 Yeah.

01:45:55.000 You're from Baltimore?

01:45:56.000 Yeah.

01:45:57.000 And they've lost twice now this year, and I get really sad.

01:46:01.000 And then I think to myself, why am I sad?

01:46:04.000 These are millionaires playing a game 500 miles away from me.

01:46:08.000 Why is this making me sad that they lost?

01:46:10.000 It means nothing to my life.

01:46:12.000 I don't know, but it does.

01:46:13.000 Where we are now, this is Ravens country.

01:46:14.000 Most people out here are big Ravens fans.

01:46:17.000 Yeah.

01:46:17.000 Because we're like an hour from Baltimore.

01:46:18.000 I would have thought Redskins, so that's interesting.

01:46:20.000 I think there are Redskins fans, but they're pretty mad about the brand change.

01:46:24.000 Commanders.

01:46:25.000 Sorry.

01:46:26.000 Look, it's always Redskins to me, just like it's always Twitter to me.

01:46:29.000 Sorry, Elon.

01:46:30.000 Yeah.

01:46:31.000 So, you know, I have heard a lot when I go play at the poker tables.

01:46:35.000 Usually guys are like, I was a big Redskins fan, but then they complain about Woke and they complain about why they did it.

01:46:41.000 It's like...

01:46:42.000 Some guys will just still, they'll still wear the Redskins shirts and they're fans.

01:46:45.000 But I would say absolutely, Commanders are big out here.

01:46:50.000 At Maryland Live, which is basically Baltimore, they were doing a promo where whenever the Commanders or the Ravens scored a touchdown last weekend, you would earn free stuff, you know, or something like that.

01:47:02.000 So out here, these are those two teams, but I run into more Ravens people than Commanders.

01:47:07.000 Hmm.

01:47:08.000 All right, Trace Venturis is a big fan of you, Matt.

01:47:10.000 I plan on watching Am I Racist soon.

01:47:13.000 The closest showing is 150 miles away.

01:47:15.000 It's worth every gallon of gas.

01:47:16.000 Keep up the good work, TimCast crew.

01:47:18.000 Yeah, 150 miles.

01:47:19.000 Don't make excuses.

01:47:21.000 Is there a plan to put it on Daily Wire Plus?

01:47:25.000 There's a, you know, once the theatrical is done, it'll be... Like normal rotation, like movies?

01:47:31.000 It's not going to disappear into the ether, I can say.

01:47:33.000 Right.

01:47:34.000 I would just say...

01:47:36.000 You gotta see it in theaters.

01:47:37.000 I don't know.

01:47:37.000 You know what I really, really loved was actually, I'm in a theater that is full, and when everyone else is laughing, it feels good, man.

01:47:45.000 It feels good to know that in DC, which is a liberal stronghold, there are people who agree with me on these things.

01:47:54.000 And so, I'm sitting in the front, and I hear all this laughter, and it makes you feel like, you know, we're not losing.

01:48:00.000 We are right.

01:48:02.000 I think one of the challenges we face, like this one kind of brings me down, is that a lot of people are scared to speak up and call it the BS.

01:48:07.000 But when they're all sitting down in that theater in DC and they're laughing at the same thing, you know that they agree with you.

01:48:13.000 And that feels good.

01:48:15.000 And I assume people who are supportive of your work, it's better for you if they show up in theater because like you're saying, pre-sales or if you want to release another movie in the future, you can point to a body of work and say, look, we had this many thousands of people.

01:48:26.000 A hundred percent.

01:48:27.000 And Tim's right that it's, I think it's a theatrical movie.

01:48:30.000 It's best experienced in theaters.

01:48:32.000 And then also, you know, the cultural impact of staying in theaters and having sustained success in theaters is like, it cannot be overstated.

01:48:43.000 So we would Ask people to watch it in theaters.

01:48:45.000 Stanley Kong says, thank you for making Am I Racist, Matt.

01:48:48.000 My wife and I drove the 70 miles from Canada to watch it in the U.S.

01:48:52.000 I would like to hear what Matt thinks about Tim's island idea in place of the death penalty.

01:48:57.000 Perhaps we'll have this conversation in 10 minutes.

01:48:59.000 Okay.

01:49:00.000 What is your, okay, I guess you'll tell me your island idea.

01:49:02.000 The island.

01:49:02.000 I don't know.

01:49:03.000 Uh-huh.

01:49:03.000 And I'm serious, completely serious about it, but we'll grab Super Chats and then we'll talk.

01:49:09.000 And, uh, I think you made a comment a while ago, like a year or two ago, about my views on the death penalty, though.

01:49:14.000 I think you had said something like, you didn't agree, but you sort of agreed.

01:49:19.000 Maybe we'll have to redo it.

01:49:19.000 We're gonna pull tweets?

01:49:21.000 Are we gonna check with the- No, it was on your show.

01:49:24.000 I think something happened where- I can't remember exactly what it was, but I'm pretty sure you made a comment about my views on the death penalty.

01:49:29.000 I think I did, because you were talking about it, maybe.

01:49:31.000 Yeah, and it wasn't overt agreement, but it wasn't outright disagreement.

01:49:35.000 I can't really remember, it's been a long time, but we'll get into it.

01:49:39.000 All right, Stinky Wizzleteats, love the name, says, there's an article written August 30th before the second attempt on Trump's life that connected one Maxwell Yerrick, who some claim was the real Trump rally shooter making payments to Ryan Ruth.

01:49:51.000 Weird.

01:49:52.000 I don't know anything about that, guys.

01:49:55.000 Can't really comment on it, but it sounds a little out there, if you ask me.

01:49:58.000 It seems a little, I don't know, not correct, but maybe I'm wrong.

01:50:02.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

01:50:04.000 Greg Duvier says, Joe Rogan turned Matt Walsh into a moon landing denier.

01:50:08.000 Oh no he didn't.

01:50:11.000 Look, Joe is not even committed to denying the moon landing.

01:50:16.000 We debated it for like an hour and he never said that he doesn't think it happens, he's just open to the idea.

01:50:24.000 But I'm firmly, I was going in and I'm still a firm believer in the moon landing and a fan of the moon landing.

01:50:31.000 It's one of our greatest achievements.

01:50:32.000 And I think it unified the country, right?

01:50:34.000 I mean, so many people tuned in to watch it and felt like we had accomplished something.

01:50:37.000 You mean the Joe Rogan episode with me?

01:50:39.000 Yes, that is always what I'm talking about.

01:50:42.000 No, I meant the moon landing, but I'm sure this, Am I Racist?

01:50:45.000 It's unifying the country too.

01:50:46.000 Exactly.

01:50:47.000 Eric Rafko says, Am I Racist is the funniest movie I've seen in years.

01:50:51.000 Laughing to tears, going again tomorrow and bringing others.

01:50:54.000 Can we look forward to another sequel?

01:50:56.000 A threequel?

01:50:57.000 You know, I do like things in threes, so you never know.

01:51:01.000 You never know what could happen.

01:51:02.000 Are there any potential subjects you've been thinking about that you can say without spoiling anything?

01:51:08.000 There are subjects I've thought about.

01:51:10.000 Alright, we'll keep it a secret.

01:51:11.000 I can say that.

01:51:12.000 Keep it a secret, keep it a secret.

01:51:14.000 Alright, here we go.

01:51:16.000 Elvie says, hi Matt, thanks for the movie.

01:51:18.000 Some scenes were so hard to watch, you could hear everyone's reaction.

01:51:22.000 Very good, very good, very fun.

01:51:25.000 Alright, Katrina Miles says, I am Cabin, and I would go insane without my cay- uh, I am Cabin? 0.95

01:51:32.000 Cayenne, salt, pepper, garlicky, and onion powder, and all other seasonings and hot sauce.

01:51:36.000 I just dump garlic on everything.

01:51:39.000 Like, you just, the whole bottle of garlic powder.

01:51:41.000 There's no such thing as too much garlic.

01:51:43.000 Whole garlic cloves, just right in there.

01:51:45.000 Yeah, you gotta go with the fresh garlic, because the garlic powder is, yeah, you have to use, like, ten tablespoons to get any garlic flavor out of it.

01:51:51.000 Oh yeah.

01:51:52.000 I like pizza with whole garlic on the top.

01:51:52.000 You know what I like?

01:51:55.000 Just the garlic cloves or whatever.

01:51:57.000 You bake it, and then it becomes soft.

01:51:59.000 Not to mention, anybody's had a good steak and they gave you the black garlic.

01:52:03.000 They, what do they do?

01:52:04.000 They, um, they like to add a torch to it.

01:52:06.000 And then you, oof, man, that's great. 0.60

01:52:08.000 Well, when we're debating the death penalty, I'll explain why you should probably get a death penalty for that. 0.97

01:52:12.000 For putting garlic on my steak? 0.94

01:52:15.000 No, baking garlic on your pizza, you just said. 0.99

01:52:17.000 Oh, jeez, are you nuts? 0.58

01:52:19.000 That's the greatest thing ever! 0.98

01:52:20.000 Matt, do you know what giardiniera is?

01:52:23.000 No.

01:52:24.000 You see, blasphemy.

01:52:25.000 I'm from Chicago, and I'll tell you.

01:52:26.000 OK, I'll tell you.

01:52:27.000 And Chicago deep dish pizza is awful, by the way.

01:52:29.000 OK.

01:52:29.000 I agree.

01:52:30.000 That's not what Chicagoans eat.

01:52:31.000 That's tourist pizza.

01:52:33.000 In Chicago, we have what's called square cut tavern style, thin crust.

01:52:37.000 It's a pizza that's cut into squares.

01:52:38.000 It's got little triangle corners.

01:52:40.000 Everybody grew up with that.

01:52:41.000 We know it.

01:52:42.000 And me personally, I love giardiniera pizza.

01:52:44.000 OK, but you guys don't know what that is because you're uncultured.

01:52:47.000 But it's OK.

01:52:47.000 I'm not mad at you for it.

01:52:48.000 I've done enough episodes of this show to know what it is.

01:52:51.000 We did get Matt to try a Chicago handshake.

01:52:54.000 What is that?

01:52:55.000 Well, apparently this is a glass of Malort with an old style.

01:53:03.000 Okay.

01:53:03.000 Oh, okay.

01:53:04.000 That's what that is.

01:53:07.000 You had Malort?

01:53:09.000 It's like motor oil, basically.

01:53:11.000 The joke is that Malort is made from the grass growing on the side of I-55.

01:53:14.000 My only thing about the garlic is you're turning the pizza You're turning the pizza into nothing but a delivery mechanism for garlic.

01:53:25.000 But you can't do that.

01:53:27.000 I object.

01:53:28.000 I don't like when people do that with their food.

01:53:30.000 It's like when you put so much hot sauce on it.

01:53:33.000 I like hot sauce too, but now all it is is just hot sauce.

01:53:36.000 I'm not saying it's only garlic.

01:53:40.000 It's like, when you put pepperoni into pizza, is it only pepperoni now?

01:53:43.000 Well, but if you're baking multiple garlic cloves on one slice, Well, garlic is a very pushy ingredient.

01:53:52.000 Next movie on cooking!

01:53:54.000 Next movie on cooking!

01:53:56.000 I'm telling you, in Chicago, you say I want garlic baked on my pizza, they do it.

01:54:00.000 It's normal.

01:54:01.000 And it's delicious. 0.91

01:54:02.000 This is why Chicago is a disaster.

01:54:05.000 Giardiniera is jalapenos, cauliflower, carrots, and celery in oil and vinegar.

01:54:12.000 On pizza?

01:54:13.000 Well, you can put on anything.

01:54:14.000 And so, I would say most commonly you see it put on Italian beef sandwiches.

01:54:18.000 So, what we do in Chicago is you take a French bread, you put Italian beef in it, then you'll put giardiniera, which is that mix I told you is oily, then you take the whole thing on tongs and you dip it into a vat of gravy, give it a little shake, and that's what you eat.

01:54:32.000 And that's a dipped, you know, Italian beef, is what we eat.

01:54:38.000 So, I'm sure you've been to Potbelly before?

01:54:41.000 Yeah.

01:54:41.000 They sell it, but they call it hot peppers because most people outside of Chicago don't know what jardiniere is, so they call it hot peppers.

01:54:47.000 That's basically it.

01:54:48.000 And you put it on pizza and it bakes into it and it's delicious.

01:54:51.000 I'm fine with the roast beef thing, but you can't put it on the pizza.

01:54:51.000 Yeah.

01:54:55.000 The jardiniere mix on pizza?

01:54:56.000 No, you don't put that on pizza.

01:54:57.000 What do you put on pizza?

01:54:58.000 Pepperoni?

01:54:59.000 Yes.

01:55:00.000 Poll in the chat right now, ask people if they'd rather you talk about the culinary failures with pizza, like what is okay and what is not, or the death penalty.

01:55:07.000 I feel like these are both contentious issues.

01:55:10.000 Matt's wrong.

01:55:11.000 Matt, how dare you?

01:55:12.000 Tim is always right.

01:55:13.000 Tim has done nothing wrong.

01:55:14.000 Well, I can't read that screen right now.

01:55:18.000 No, I think they're saying Tim's crazy. 0.98

01:55:20.000 He shouldn't be putting this garbage on his food or something. 0.95

01:55:21.000 But I will tell you this, when I am Supreme Chancellor of the planet, cilantro, fennel, anise, caraway, Banned. 0.98

01:55:32.000 Illegal.

01:55:33.000 Well, how are you making guacamole without cilantro?

01:55:35.000 I don't.

01:55:36.000 Do you have the gene?

01:55:36.000 Are you a cell person?

01:55:38.000 Nope.

01:55:39.000 People are like, oh, so I was going to ask that, and I'm like, I don't know what that means.

01:55:42.000 Cilantro tastes like cilantro.

01:55:43.000 It is a distinct, unique flavor, and it's awful.

01:55:46.000 I was like, oh, so you had cilantro?

01:55:46.000 That's how I sounded.

01:55:48.000 Yeah, that's you.

01:55:50.000 That's how I talk.

01:55:51.000 That's right.

01:55:53.000 All right.

01:55:53.000 Matthew Martin says, Tim, did you just rip off I Want My City Back from Dickie Barrett's other band?

01:55:57.000 You mean The Defiant?

01:55:58.000 Let's face it.

01:55:59.000 It's better than the impression that I get.

01:56:01.000 Man, what a classic song.

01:56:03.000 Dickie Barrett is amazing.

01:56:04.000 Shout out to Dickie Barrett and his band The Defiant.

01:56:06.000 Shout out to Pete Parata.

01:56:08.000 Pete plays the drums in our new song.

01:56:10.000 So go to Buy Coming Home.

01:56:12.000 pre-order the song and uh you know see this is kind of what we're talking about the songs that we've put out um a couple of them are in no way any way related at all to politics together again obviously was kind of a jokey song we were teaming up with jeremy and michael uh smoky mac and the god king sorry and then uh only ever wanted was really just like the first release we did we were like we want no politics and then i'm sorry actually will of the people was the first and uh will of the people None of the songs we put out just say things like, this country is bad for this reason and your ideas are bad for that reason.

01:56:47.000 Will of the People is just telling the story of a guy who grows up, becomes a revolutionary, creates a revolution, takes the country over, and then is killed as a tyrannical leader by a new revolution.

01:56:56.000 So it's always, you know, we always try to stay away from being overt.

01:57:00.000 This next one we're putting out is clearly political, referencing rioting, destruction, homelessness, failed policies.

01:57:07.000 We don't say it, it's just literally saying, I'm coming home and I see all this stuff around me, how has it gotten to this point?

01:57:14.000 And it's meant to be for anybody who feels that way.

01:57:16.000 Alright, Goblin D says, Matt, love what you do.

01:57:18.000 When will your movie be available on the Daily Wire?

01:57:21.000 Me and the wife would love to watch it in a theater, but we have a one-year-old, so no fun for us.

01:57:26.000 Yeah, we don't have timelines on that stuff right now.

01:57:29.000 But like I said, you know, when it's out of theaters, it's not going to disappear.

01:57:34.000 Can I also say that if you have a one-year-old child, it's actually essential that you go see this in theaters.

01:57:41.000 And you'll see this in a scene with a lovely lady named Kate Slater. 1.00

01:57:45.000 But it's never, never too early to start the anti-racist work, especially with children under the age of three.

01:57:51.000 It's very urgent.

01:57:52.000 When she talks about white princesses, But then you mention your daughter likes Moana, and it creates a paradox, and her brain gets a dial tone.

01:58:03.000 People gotta go see that movie to understand.

01:58:04.000 I don't want to spoil too much, but I'm just like, you gotta see it.

01:58:06.000 It's good.

01:58:07.000 Alright, Josh Oh My Gosh says, Hey Matt, my boss at work is a democrat that doesn't like you.

01:58:13.000 I saw your movie and I loved it.

01:58:14.000 Can you do a shoutout for my favorite boss Josh?

01:58:19.000 Or my Josh, favorite boss.

01:58:22.000 So I can show him.

01:58:23.000 I bet October Surprise will be a false flag attempt on Harris.

01:58:26.000 Okay, I think he's asking you to say shoutout to Josh's boss.

01:58:28.000 Go see the film.

01:58:31.000 Is this Josh or is this his boss?

01:58:33.000 Josh is his name and he wants you to shoutout his boss. 1.00

01:58:35.000 Hey Josh's boss, stop being an asshole. 1.00

01:58:40.000 He's gonna love you now! 1.00

01:58:41.000 Yeah, he's gonna love it.

01:58:43.000 Alright, we'll grab a couple more here. 0.77

01:58:46.000 Let's see what we got.

01:58:47.000 We got some fun.

01:58:49.000 Zero says, Matt, can you make your DEI class available online?

01:58:52.000 I'd love to add it to my resume.

01:58:55.000 Yeah, well we have the workshop up there, and we're looking at other material we can get up to really get the message out, so we're kind of working on that now.

01:59:04.000 So, when you got certified, was that also your guys' project, or was that a legitimate website where you could get certified for DEI?

01:59:11.000 I mean, the word legitimate is pretty strong, but it's a website that is not ours.

01:59:17.000 It's an actual website that exists in the world, and we used it to get our card.

01:59:22.000 Okay, wow.

01:59:23.000 You know, I have friends who are ordained ministers for the purpose of performing weddings, and it's like they went to a website, clicked three buttons, and paid five bucks, and then, you know.

01:59:30.000 Yeah, in fact, I'll admit, a little behind the scenes, I didn't even take the course.

01:59:33.000 We had a producer do it.

01:59:35.000 Did you do it?

01:59:35.000 No, no, that was someone else.

01:59:37.000 Someone went and took the course and gave me the card. 1.00

01:59:39.000 So you're a liar. 0.97

01:59:41.000 They're committing fraud. 0.98

01:59:42.000 This third party should sue!

01:59:45.000 You know, the person who did it, we had a good conversation, and so it was secondhand.

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